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00:03.27break19oops
00:04.28OverloadUTthe Pan's Labyrinth theme is stuck in my head
00:04.39OverloadUTNow I must find it to download
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00:09.45CIA-1803funkydude * r29192 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane: update koKR
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00:12.23break19interesting, I'm running XP SP2, and Wow.. which doesnt seem that interesting but for this little tidbit, I'm also running Mac OS X, and on an iBook G4 PPC machine :p
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00:17.09binderhyperChipmunk, filter out yet? :P
00:17.50OverloadUTIf you try to get a translation for a key that doesn't exist, what happens?
00:18.13JJSheetsckknight, you bastard.
00:19.05Uhuruif i use winamp (lite) when i play wow, wow sound became very low :/
00:19.13OverloadUTOverloadUT: It throws an error
00:19.17OverloadUTOverloadUT: Oh, okay thanks
00:19.31Uhuruwithout winamp i found spells sounds is a bit too low too
00:20.11GagorianAny resto shaman here?
00:20.25Uhurublizz sucks hard !!!
00:20.47Uhurui pay 13 euros per month to play with a bugged client
00:21.10sdoubleI pay $15usd/mo for a client that works perfectly fine for me.
00:21.21binderfor linux: gentoo or fedora?
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00:21.37JoshBorkei pay 15k/year for a rigorous education
00:22.12break19sdouble: me too, actually. I pay 31.98 for 2 clients that work fine :)
00:23.01trhUhuru: why is the client bugged and not winamp?
00:23.14durcynUhuru: you're using two applications that are setting the same mixer level, and you think it's a bug?
00:23.32trhactually they use the same mixer only when winamp is configured to use waveOut
00:23.41trhwith dsound it uses it's own
00:24.34durcyntrh: depends then, on whether or not wow futzes with master out
00:25.37trhyeah.. but i don't see a problem.. just use the mousewheel to control the volume in winamp once per session and you're fine :)
00:26.11break19this been fixed yet? [2007/02/27 18:04:54-388-x1]: Cartographer_Battlegrounds-2.0\Battlegrounds.lua:11: AceLocale(Cartographer-Battlegrounds): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
00:26.36kergothbreak19: sounds like you have both the standalone and internal version of that
00:26.42kergothwau i presume?
00:26.50kergothhrm
00:27.08break19you've heard me saying I have a mac, and you ask that? lol MacAceUpdater thank you very much :p
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00:27.22kergothah, hehe
00:27.34break19and I'm not using standalones...
00:27.58break19but maybe I forgot to run the lod scripts on last update, lemme check
00:28.10kergoththat would explain it, if so
00:28.25hasteI don't really understands the need to package stuff like that
00:28.38break19yep, I did *bonks noggin*
00:28.39hasteIt's the whole "omg, many folders in my addons folder?!" discussion reversed
00:29.02kergothi'd rather just leave them all seperate and zip them all up in cart's zip if you want them included for release.. but *shrug*
00:29.17kergothor leave them inside permanently
00:29.31CIA-1803rabbit * r29193 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix.
00:29.31hasteyeah, could just make one version which fetches the rest as externals
00:29.36Ordogis in here affilated with a serverhoster in the US or Asia ?
00:29.40haste(externals abuse :D)
00:29.48break19i notice *slight* decreases in memory usage, with the LOD versus leaving them inside cart
00:30.10hastethen it's not a real decrease I guess
00:30.22hasteunless it doesn't load one of them or something
00:30.28Ordogs/is/is somebody/
00:30.44durcynloadondemand increased my penis size by 7 centimeters
00:30.49JJSheetslol
00:31.14break19haste: well.. for instance, it doesnt load the waypoints stuff until I use it.
00:31.18nymbiayeah, i'd prefer externals to packages too
00:31.26hastethat's why you see a decrease I guess :)
00:31.29JJSheetsnearly three inches folks.  Loadondemand is the shit. lol
00:31.38nymbiarofl
00:31.58break19hey, it might not be useful, but I like it :p
00:32.00nymbiabe nice if the LoD stub stuff makes 2.1.0
00:32.09hasteagreed
00:32.22Uhurui'm obliged to put winamp sound to 5% to get correct wow sound level ...
00:32.29OverloadUTDoes anybody know how heavy the Cartographer_Notes:RefreshMap method is? I want to call it on each time the user mouseovers one of my notes, but I'm not sure how lagtastic that would be.
00:32.33break19but the wife is beggin for M&Ms, so it's up to the husband to get them.
00:32.33Uhuruand client isn't bugged ?
00:33.05break19Uhuru: nope
00:33.30nymbiaOverloadUT: i'll check, one sec ;)
00:33.47break19Uhuru: go drive a car, move the seat.. now let someone else drive it.. they move the seat, you gotta move it back.. man.. the car is bugged
00:34.15OverloadUTI had the idea to "highlight" all of the notes for the same objective as the one you are mouseovering - I think it'd be a pretty cool effect.
00:34.29Uhurulol there is absolutely no rapport
00:34.34break19winamp changes the volume, wow does too.. its called a conflict.. change winamp to use a different output, or change wow to use a different output.
00:34.52OverloadUTYeah most programs have that problem
00:34.59OverloadUTThey share the "wave" volume control usually
00:35.24break19OverloadUT: depends on the OS, actually
00:35.33OverloadUTI believe that is one of the new touted features in Vista actually...
00:35.40nymbiaOverloadUT: its fast.  with the BRD map up which has 25+ notes, 1000 calls to RefreshMap took 0.016 seconds
00:35.42OverloadUTYeah I was talking about winXP
00:35.43break19exactly.
00:35.54OverloadUTnymbia: Thanks! That's good news. :)
00:36.02break19but winxp isnt the only OS in the world, and there are TONS of apps that dont run on windows at all :)
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00:36.54break19but as I said.. the pregger wife is cravin M&Ms, and if I dont leave now, I wont be coming back. bbiab
00:37.06OverloadUTlmao
00:37.07Uhurubreak19, winamp and wow now use their own output
00:37.32Uhurubut wow sound is so low that i must put winamp sound level at 5 % and wow sound to ma
00:37.33Uhurumax
00:37.55break19Uhuru: then you've messed something up.. i gotta go.. bbiab
00:37.57OverloadUTSounds like screwy sound drivers to me
00:38.13OverloadUTBut I don't know what I'm talking about
00:38.19Uhurui got latest sound drivers
00:38.29OverloadUTYeah but latest doesn't mean good ;)
00:38.37OverloadUTJust look at ATI
00:38.39Uhurunot my fault ...
00:39.25CIA-1803rabbit * r29194 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Hm, revert the bugfix.
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00:40.28Ordoghas somebody else noticed simple minimap displaying the minimap fullscreen?
00:41.03fanaticPogoTribal, /castsequence reset=3/target Cure Poison, Cure Disease aint working :(
00:41.15fanaticits like it doesent know that there is "Cure Disease"
00:41.23fanaticit only tries to dispell with Cure Poison
00:41.24NightHawkTheSaneOrdog: just reset smm.
00:41.30fanaticanyone know whats causing it?
00:41.31NightHawkTheSaneone of the updates recently did that to me too
00:42.46JJSheetsvhaarr, ping
00:42.55vhaarrJJSheets: pong
00:42.57OverloadUTOrdog: That was happening to me, and a reset did not help, so I rolled back
00:43.13JJSheetsvhaarr, I'm updating PetDPS to the new version of Violation... in testing now.
00:43.18SlackerJerfanatic: that won't work. The spells in castsequence have to actually cast for the sequence to progress. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=71623687
00:44.15fanaticSlackerJer, damn, do you know how i can solve it? :P i kinda want to try cast first cure poison, then cure disease
00:44.43hugowheres good guide for macros btw ?
00:44.45nymbiafanatic: can't currently :(  my mana gem macro is also displeased.
00:45.07fanaticso i got the cure`s in 1 button/macro. Kinda green when it comes to computers :(
00:45.57NightHawkTheSanei like clique (or click2cast, whatever you want) to handle dispels/heals, personally
00:45.59SlackerJerfanatic: you can't. read that thread for more macro information. best you can do for your situation is left click for disease, right click for poison or something along those lines. The UI can't decide for you anymore which to cast
00:46.40NightHawkTheSanegah, why are there idiots that feel the need to kill afk people?
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00:47.22nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: outplayed.
00:47.35fanaticah, damn
00:47.49fanaticis there a made macro out there for the "right/left" clicking?
00:53.29NightHawkTheSanefanatic: the wow forums and wowwiki both contain rather nice guides on macros, try reading them
00:53.40vhaarrJJSheets: alright
00:54.21JJSheetsvhaarr: I'm also correcting inaccuracies with the PlayerDPS tooltip display, and the tooltip needs a math.floor() added to it to handle the non-integral data.
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00:55.57JJSheetsvhaarr: I think line 674 of Violation.lua should read:  table.insert(tbl, new(k, math.floor(v)))
00:56.05JJSheetsIf I'm reading it all right...
00:56.40JJSheetsvhaarr: Also I'm having to reenable each module after login/reloadui.
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00:59.33vhaarrJJSheets: yeah, it's bugged
01:00.26JJSheetsvhaarr: making the change above properly truncated the decimal places in the tooltip display.
01:01.02vid`y
01:01.07vid`oops
01:01.39vhaarrJJSheets: truncate the saved data instead
01:01.53sylvanaar-- /script local x=MultiBarBottomLeftButton1 x:SetScript("PreClick",function() local f,t=x,ChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget f:SetAttribute("type", "macro") f:SetAttribute("mactotext","/target [nomodifier]"..t()) end)
01:01.55JJSheetsvhaarr: k
01:01.58sylvanaarsad
01:04.16hastepanda?
01:04.50Uhurusomeone knows a buff monitor for ag_uf ?
01:11.05JJSheetsvhaarr: I'm ready for a commit if you're okay with it.
01:12.39rubikwhat does it mean when an addon is listed as 'Incompatible' when i have "load out of date addons" checked?
01:12.50rubik(trying to debug/fix WhoNote)
01:13.05vhaarrJJSheets: sure
01:13.19nymbiarubik: means the toc is less than 20000
01:13.44rubikthat it is.. ok.. changing to 20003 and will go from there.. ty
01:14.14CIA-1803jjsheets * r29195 10Violation/modules/ (PetDPS.lua PlayerDPS.lua): ViolationViolation: Updated PlayerDPS and PetDPS to work with new tooltip display system.
01:18.27MedlirAnyone else notice Cartographer Waypoints was back in the Cartographer package?  And the arrow doesn't appear because the path to the Artwork is pointing to the Waypoints dir outside the main Cart dir still?
01:20.03NightHawkTheSanerandom tangent time! anyone know what plate shoulders look like lawbringer, but.. a bit more green?
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01:22.30OverloadUTThe /dump command is awesome
01:22.37CIA-1803nymbia * r29196 10ArenaPointer/ArenaPointer.lua:
01:22.37CIA-18ArenaPointer:
01:22.37CIA-18- typo
01:24.41rubikMedlir: yeah, i noticed it was back in the cart dir but haven't tried using it yet
01:24.50CIA-1803fenlis * r29197 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Updated localization koKR
01:25.03ZealotOnAStickHmm.  Current Cartographer, when using waypoints, I get the waypoint info, but no arrow image.
01:27.44rubikbut yes, what medlir said is correct.. cart_waypoints points to arrow graphics file outside of the cart dir
01:29.43vhaarrwobin: yeah, the arrow is missing
01:31.27CIA-1803nymbia * r29198 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:
01:31.27CIA-18Cartographer: Waypoints:
01:31.27CIA-18- Fix arrow texture for users who do not use the LoD depackager.
01:32.24vhaarrthanks nymbia
01:32.33nymbiasure
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01:35.34CIA-1803nymbia * r29199 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:
01:35.34CIA-18Cartographer: Waypoints:
01:35.34CIA-18- Fix vertical arrow texture too.
01:38.05JoshBorkewobin: ping
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01:39.55toddso when you're too high for a quest, the ! doesn't appear over the questgiver's head, but is that a clientside thing? does the server still tell the client that that npc has a quest?
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01:40.12JoshBorkewhy does it matter?
01:40.24nymbiatodd: likely not.
01:41.03nymbiatodd: and even if it did, we wouldnt have access to that info
01:41.24vhaarrthe client knows, I think, but it's not exposed to the API
01:54.20OverloadUTYeah the client would have to know, so it can draw the "!"
01:54.46OverloadUTThe client wouldn't know what the quest name is though, because even when it's yellow, you don't get it until you talk to the NPC which queries the server
01:55.12OverloadUTWow I'm a bit late to this party.
01:56.19nymbiawell it may not send data for quests to you if you're 5 levels below or whatever the threshold for the gray "!" is
01:56.37JoshBorkeKaelten-Laptop: were you serious when you told me to upload my patch?  you want me to go ahead and fix OneCore to put new bags on a new row?
01:56.49Kaelten-Laptopyes :P
01:57.31Kaelten-Laptoplol
01:57.34Kaelten-Laptopif you fuck it up revert it
01:58.07nymbialol
01:58.08JoshBorkeyou mean like deleting branches? o.O
01:58.10break19hey Kael, dont take this as a "hey, gimme gimme" thing, just curious as to the timeframe that KCI2 would have vendor and auctionhouse pricing in tooltips?
01:58.27Kaelten-Laptopit already has some of that in there
01:58.30Kaelten-Laptopthe vendor prices are in
01:58.35Kaelten-Laptopalthough the base database isn't present yet
01:58.45Kaelten-Laptopand allso the auctionhouse stuff is going to take a small revamp before I'm happy with it
01:58.58OverloadUTIf you send a Comm message through the WHISPER channel, you still get the "blah is Away From Keyboard" message
01:59.09OverloadUTI was sending like 150 messages so it got a little spammy :P
01:59.35vhaarrOverloadUT: Really? Sure you don't have those messages in some other pane except ChatFrame1?
02:00.13OverloadUTvhaarr: Not sure what you mean
02:00.16break19Kaelten-Laptop: k. I really like kci, and dabble with KCI2 from time to time, but I find that I miss my prices :)
02:00.21JoshBorkeKaelten-Laptop: what happened to OneCore being an embedded library?
02:00.38Kaelten-LaptopJoshBorke: hrm its just part of OneBag now.
02:00.44Kaelten-Laptopnot a lib in and of itself
02:00.54JoshBorkek
02:00.58Kaelten-Laptopbreak19: well the tooltip stuff is partially functional
02:03.56break19Kaelten-Laptop: yea.. the "partially" thing is what I was asking about :) :)
02:04.06Kaelten-Laptophehe
02:05.24vhaarrOverloadUT: AceComm blocks CHAT_MSG_AFK coming through more than one time, but it only works for ChatFrame1, since Blizzard needs to l2p.
02:05.24Kaelten-Laptopwell in the future what I'm thinking of showing is Average Buyout Range : 1.5g - 2.5g
02:05.24Kaelten-Laptopor some thing similar
02:05.25OverloadUTvhaarr: I'm running Prat so maybe it breaks it
02:05.25vhaarrOverloadUT: probably
02:05.25Lucifearthat sounds really useful Kaelten-Laptop
02:05.25break19if I knew a little more about LUA I could help, but my lua skills are limited to copy/paste, edit to suit. :p
02:05.25Kaelten-Laptopya more so than the current standard of avg buyout 2g
02:05.28Kaelten-Laptopbreak19:  hehe
02:05.35OverloadUTHoly crap it is amusing to watch 160 notes appearing on my map as I get a db dump from another player
02:06.00Lucifearhow do you plan to limit maximum difference max average and min average?
02:06.03Kaelten-LaptopLucifear: I'm also going to have historical and most recent scan info availble.
02:06.20break19and since I work 10-14hrs a day during the week usually, any spare time I have is actually playing, I chat here while in flight to places, or bored. :)
02:06.31Kaelten-Laptoplucifear the new database formats keep tracks of a bell avg sort of thing  and the standard deviation.
02:06.48OverloadUTbreak19: You mean your spare time is spent playing or getting M&Ms
02:07.03LucifearKaelten-Laptop yeah but you get some useless figures with limited data etc
02:07.19break19Kaelten-Laptop: you planning to add code(or already have) to help check for market saturation at absurd pricing?
02:07.22Kaelten-LaptopLucifear: ya thats why I'm going to have both most recent scan and a decaying historical scan
02:07.24break19OverloadUT: lol that too
02:07.34Kaelten-Laptopbreak19: I use a form of bell curving
02:07.47Funkeh`nn folks
02:07.59LucifearKaelten-Laptop: tbh i am in favor of too much info rather than too little when it comes to stuff like this ^^
02:09.00break19I just want a simple avg price, I like compact info, but would like the possiblity of delving deeper if I so choose.
02:11.40Kaelten-Laptopoh, there will be a lot more information availbable
02:11.52Kaelten-Laptopand people will be able to easily write extentions to make more info available.
02:12.27JoshBorkewho cares about KCI2 :-P
02:12.34break19<- does
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02:13.17OverloadUTWill KCI2 basically be a replacement for Auctioneer/Informant?
02:13.44JoshBorkeKaelten-Laptop: is tehre a known bug with OneBag and bottom alignment?
02:13.44LucifearKaelten-Laptop: could you implement something along the idea of a detailed mode? for example: you press the minimap icon (or fubar) and it starts to show all available info, in normal mode it only shows avg ah price and vendor info
02:14.01Kaelten-LaptopJoshBorke: not to my knowledge
02:14.20Kaelten-LaptopLucifear: my goal is to make the tooltip 100% customizable
02:14.36Kaelten-LaptopI've even been playing with the idea of a mode to allow you to write patterns
02:14.41Kaelten-Laptopbut that may be too complex
02:14.55Lucifearhow do you mean in patterns?
02:15.12JoshBorkeanyone in game that wants to confirm something for me?
02:15.22Lucifeargo on JoshBorke
02:15.27trhuhm.. maybe someone of you knows... does time() give back the time of the server +- timezone or the (windows) time from the users computer
02:15.29JoshBorkeare you using OneBag?
02:15.37Lucifearno, sorry
02:15.49JoshBorkeblast :-P
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02:16.37Kaelten-LaptopLucifear: you'd enter something like "AvgBuyout: %ab" or "Buyouts: %lb - %hb"
02:16.41Kaelten-Laptopbut that may be too complex
02:18.14JoshBorkeuh oh
02:18.25JoshBorkehow do i find a FuBar panel with nothing on it, detached, and without a background?
02:18.42Lucifearyou rightclick a lot?
02:18.45nymbiaJoshBorke: very carefully.
02:18.51JoshBorkelol
02:19.15JoshBorkefound it!
02:19.22JoshBorkefyi, the /fubar command changes all bars
02:21.10nymbiaKaelten-Laptop: by the way i went slightly insane getting trunk KCI support fixed in Manufac ;)
02:21.22Kaelten-Laptopnymbia: hrm?
02:21.33Kaelten-Laptopwhat did you need?
02:22.08nymbiaKaelten-Laptop: just the change to KC_Items.common:GetCode(link,true)
02:22.16nymbiaKaelten-Laptop: it was very hard to track down ;)
02:22.20Kaelten-Laptoplol
02:22.23Kaelten-Laptopsorry
02:22.29Kaelten-Laptopeverything is changing in the branch :)
02:22.35nymbiano worries
02:22.48nymbiayeah i got the branch working already, that was a breeze
02:23.09Kaelten-Laptoplol
02:23.15Kaelten-Laptoplike the code there better?
02:23.23nymbiayeah
02:23.29nymbia:D
02:23.47Kaelten-Laptop:)
02:25.21Kaelten-LaptopI wonder if anyone ever started using uiQuery
02:25.27Kaelten-Laptopits a twisted child
02:25.34nymbiahaha
02:25.46Kaelten-Laptophave you looked at the code ?
02:25.50Kaelten-Laptop:P
02:25.54JoshBorkestupid bottom alignment
02:26.07nymbiai've been thinking of rewriting whiteboardNG, i'll probably use it if i do that
02:26.17OverloadUTdata.sent = data.sent or {} is a way of "initializing" data.sent as a table, correct?
02:26.31Kaelten-LaptopOverloadUT: yes
02:26.37Kaelten-Laptopbut it creates a new table everytime
02:26.47Kaelten-LaptopI'd recommend against it and just use an if then
02:26.49nymbiaOverloadUT: it makes sure it exists, and if it doesnt, then it makes it
02:27.01OverloadUTKaelten-Laptop: Ah good to know.
02:27.10vid`i love enchantlist :)
02:27.37Kaelten-Laptopnymbia: I forget who did it but someone examined the asm instructions it produced and showed it created the table each time even if it didn't need to
02:27.49JoshBorkeKaelten-Laptop: in OneBag, bottom alignment is supposed to start the bags at the bottom right?
02:27.52Kaelten-Laptopbut didn't if you did a if not x then x = {} end
02:27.57Kaelten-LaptopJoshBorke: yes
02:28.02JoshBorkek
02:28.27nymbiaKaelten-Laptop: that's weird, you'd think it'd short circuit out of that if data.sent evaluated to true.  good to know.
02:28.38Kaelten-LaptopI know in 5.0 it didn't
02:28.41Kaelten-LaptopI'm not sure about 5.1
02:29.08Kaelten-LaptopI thought i'd stop short too but it didn't :s
02:29.35CIA-1803nymbia * r29200 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
02:29.36CIA-18Manufac:
02:29.36CIA-18- A bit of cleanup to the ugly mess that is Auctioneer support.
02:30.14Kaelten-Laptopnymbia: auctioneer support that bad?
02:31.01nymbiaKaelten-Laptop: their API is pretty nasty
02:31.13Kaelten-LaptopI didn't know they had one.
02:31.25nymbiaexactly.
02:31.28Kaelten-Laptoplol
02:31.37Kaelten-LaptopI've always tried to have one, its made my life easier
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02:43.37StylpeAnyone here know when durcyn is usually active here?
02:45.34nymbia~seen durcyn
02:45.42purldurcyn is currently on #wowace (6h 27m 14s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 2h 14m 58s, last said: 'loadondemand increased my penis size by 7 centimeters'.
02:45.42JoshBorkewoohoo!  finished
02:45.56nymbialol
02:46.00StylpeThanks, nymbia
02:46.01CIA-1803joshborke * r29201 10OneBag/OneCore.lua: OneBag - fixed Bag Break to do what the tooltip says rather than change the tooltip.
02:46.25Stylpepurl is such a good girl
02:46.25purl:), Stylpe
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02:47.08JoshBorkeKaelten-Laptop: woohoo! :-D
02:47.21Kaelten-Laptoplol got it working?
02:47.25JoshBorkewhat else is broke in OneBag?
02:47.27JoshBorkeyea
02:47.32JoshBorkemaybe i should update the other One*'s
02:47.55ZealotOnAStickAnyone know where Tuller's been lately?
02:48.08Tullerhrm?
02:48.27ZealotOnAStickI wanted to ask you if you'd fix the Bongos plugin for cyCircled.
02:49.09ZealotOnAStickBags are weird, it doesn't do the backpack, and the pet bar doesn't seem to work at all.  I took a look at your code, but I'm a n00b.
02:50.54vhaarrTuller: I'm having some problems with your Bagnon SVN when using it on two servers, on the server I used it first, it works fine, but on the second server I get tons of errors all over the place.
02:51.45TullerI'm not a huge user of subversion, which is one of the reasons I stuck bagnon on one :P
02:51.58vhaarrerr
02:52.03vhaarrok, that doesn't make sense :P
02:52.03Bejitthaha
02:52.07Bejittyes it does
02:52.35vhaarrTuller: But your SVN is private?
02:52.44vhaarrIt would make sense if you put it on wowace, but you didn't.
02:52.54Bejittgooglecode :o
02:53.18vhaarrI know he's on google code, I'm not talking to you.
02:53.23BejittQQ
02:53.29JJSheetslol
02:55.04vhaarrTuller: So, what, you want a patch?
02:55.16Tullerhrm?
02:56.08vhaarrFine, hrm all you want, I'll just disable it on that server then.
02:56.37TullerO
02:56.43Tullerwell, I'm just confused
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02:58.43vhaarrAh, I see you've updated Bagnon today.
02:58.47vhaarrI haven't tried it since that update.
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03:02.30TullerI think you meant you were getting errors with bagnon, not the SVN
03:02.54Tullercycircled: for the two elements not skinned, the pet bar and bag bar, I use the blizzard buttons
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03:03.08vhaarrTuller: Yes, I'm getting errors with Bagnon. Not the SVN server.
03:03.27vhaarrTuller: But anyway, I haven't tried with your latest checkins today, I will now.
03:03.30OverloadUTMan I'm stuck in my code. I can't figure out, conceptually, how to do this comm properly
03:05.02Tulleri'm wondering still how many people will yell at me once they realize I'm reverting to classic bagnon with the main release
03:05.14Bejitt>.>
03:05.20Tullerthough, I think people who really want category grouping should move on to baggins
03:05.23Bejittkilling categories?
03:05.27vhaarrTuller: I love it.
03:05.29Bejittbah
03:06.14TullerBejitt: I leveled to 70 without ever using them :P
03:06.20Bejitthaha
03:06.30Bejitti actually only use them for grays
03:06.35Bejittmakes it easier to vendor
03:06.45Tullerthat's what something like autoprofit is for
03:06.48Bejitt;p
03:07.58vhaarrTuller: Tekkub has a nice mod for grays, tekJunkSeller.
03:08.07NightHawkTheSanei still have a section for vendor trash in baggins, just so i dont have to stare at it mixed in anything else :P
03:08.13vhaarrI haven't seen autoprofits code, but tekJunkSeller is pretty tiny.
03:08.13vid`i forget what mod of mine sells grays
03:08.17vid`automaton or something maybe
03:08.41CIA-1803rabbit * r29202 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Syntax fix.
03:08.49vid`yea its automaton
03:09.02Bejitti also really like the highligting of things of the category you mouse over
03:09.16NightHawkTheSanei use garbagefu, but largely because i like its integration with colalight, and being able to drop things from the menu
03:09.20Bejittrather, the darkening of the others
03:09.21TullerBejitt: in the most recent beta, yo ucan search for quest
03:09.43Tulleror weapon, or one-hand or off-hand or trinket, etc
03:10.04Bejittdoing /find ?
03:10.21Tullerdouble click search
03:10.24Bejitteh
03:10.27Bejittstill not the same
03:11.12Bejittsometimes mouse-based queries are more 'convenient' than text
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03:12.25TullerI'm aware that find was a good thing :)
03:12.48Bejittoh neat, you also added equip location to the search
03:12.56Tullerright
03:13.01Bejitthaha you just said that
03:13.40Bejittstill going to be sad to see those category buttons go away ;(
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03:15.12vhaarrTuller: [2007/02/28 04:14:59-2026-x3]: Bagnon\core\frame.lua:126: attempt to index local 'sets' (a nil value)
03:15.26vhaarrTuller: When I use Bagnon on the second realm, not on the first realm I logged in.
03:15.35vhaarrafter "installing" it
03:15.56vhaarrI get that error when I try to open my bags, and no bags appear.
03:16.21Tullerno settings have been loaded
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03:16.40Tullerso the easy method is /run BagnonSets = nil
03:16.46Tuller<PROTECTED>
03:17.31CIA-1803next96 * r29203 10AuldLangSyne/locales/koKR.lua:
03:17.31CIA-18AuldLangSyne:
03:17.32CIA-18- Update locale koKR
03:17.42Tullerhrm, I bet there was old bagnon settings from before vBagnon maybe
03:17.47vhaarryep
03:17.54vhaarrThat fixed it.
03:18.49CIA-1803joshborke * r29204 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - BagBreak does the same thing as in OneBag now
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03:21.52vid`hey
03:21.57vid`who was having sound problems in wow
03:21.59vid`i just fixed mine
03:22.01WobWorkbleh
03:22.07WobWorkWell I get a lot of stutters
03:22.09vid`SET SoundMaxHardwareChannels "128"
03:22.09vid`SET SoundOutputSystem "1"
03:22.15WobWorknot that I was the original querant
03:22.18vid`i set mine up like that and its fine now
03:22.23vid`i had output system on 2
03:22.27vid`which was direct sound
03:22.35WobWorkWhat does that set instead?
03:22.35vid`now its using windows multimedia
03:22.38WobWorkah
03:22.57vid`not sure if windows multimedia is accelerated tho
03:23.10vid`and dont think it has eax
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03:24.26Arrowmasteris that the same as unchecking the hardware accel box?
03:25.36vid`nopr
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03:34.02Sole~seeb Wobin
03:34.03vid`http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/461489/30/0/threaded
03:36.04Sole~seen Wobin
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03:37.14nymbiapurl, you suck
03:37.18purlno, *you* suck!
03:37.24Solepurl, you suck
03:37.26purlno, *you* suck!
03:37.30Soleno, you suck
03:37.36SoleHA!
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03:39.15WobWorkDuck season =P
03:39.29CIA-1803rophy * r29205 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (Core.lua localization-koKR.lua):
03:39.29CIA-18SimpleUnitFrames
03:39.29CIA-18- Fixed localization.
03:39.29JJSheetsWabbit season!
03:39.52WobWorkDuck season!
03:39.56JJSheetsWabbit season!
03:40.21WobWorkHa.
03:40.40WobWorkSo, yes, Sole. Hiya
03:40.47Solehi
03:41.04Solesorry I havent been on, I havent had time to play WoW :(
03:41.12WobWorkThat's alright =)
03:41.24WobWorkIn regards to Splut, I'm going to have to rejig my placement code so that the circular stuff gets placed on show...
03:41.25Soleyou have any luck on figuring out the state structure?
03:41.37trhpurl: entertain me
03:41.48trhshe should know how to do that ;)
03:41.52Solepurl, you suck
03:41.54purlno, *you* suck!
03:42.00WobWorkBut I'm going to use a single state header to handle the various states
03:42.07nymbiashe's missing messages at random...
03:42.17nymbiapurl, entertain me
03:42.42WobWorkhave to reboot
03:42.43WobWorkbrb
03:42.44SoleWobWork: I tried multiple headers, they acted a bit weeird
03:42.58WobWorkyeah
03:43.00WobWorkfar too confusing
03:43.56OverloadUTWhere should I look for timer functions?
03:44.21WobWorkAceEvent
03:54.21ZealotOnAStick~Sole
03:54.27ZealotOnAStickHmm.
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03:56.35durcynStylpe: pong
03:56.42Stylpeyay
03:59.02OverloadUTpurl: ping
03:59.04purlpong
03:59.41OverloadUTpurl, do you play WoW?
03:59.42purlyes, I play WoW.
03:59.47OverloadUTAwesome!
03:59.57Chomperswhats wow?
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04:00.04OverloadUTpurl, what's wow?
04:00.05purlwell, wow is the best game ever!
04:00.30trhpurl: are you a bot?
04:00.40trhpurl 's so dumb
04:00.46OverloadUTHow dare you! What an insulting question
04:00.47sergiowas epeen meter scrapped
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04:03.56CIA-1803next96 * r29206 10AceCast/ (AceCast-koKR.lua AceCast.toc):
04:03.56CIA-18AceCast :
04:03.56CIA-18- Add locale koKR
04:07.23CIA-1803next96 * r29207 10AceCast/AceCast.toc:
04:07.24CIA-18AceCast :
04:07.24CIA-18- libs path fix
04:07.32nymbiasergio: take a look at violation
04:12.09CIA-1803next96 * r29208 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_koKR.lua:
04:12.09CIA-18Talented_Data :
04:12.09CIA-18- Update locale koKR
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04:20.20SoleZealotOnAStick: hai2u
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04:28.20PProvostEvening all
04:29.27Soleho
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04:35.23*** topic/#wowace by Tem -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | You gotta break some lions to make an omlet
04:57.18BejittDoes Gratuity:FindDeformat return only the first occurance of the pattern?
04:58.22TemBejitt, where have I heard that name before?
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05:01.42Bejittuhhh
05:01.56Bejittaround?
05:03.00Bejitti dabbled in some Q3A mods :X
05:05.29nymbiaBejitt: looks like only one line, yea
05:05.40Bejittmeh
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05:12.21Bejitthmm would be nice to know which line it was found on
05:15.08ZealotOnAStickGod, fuck the Shade of Aran.
05:18.22NightHawkTheSaneaw, but its such a fun fight.
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05:31.30Icerothzealot, what's wrong with him?)
05:33.09HjalteTekkub: Hello there, are you the author of Tekkompare?
05:35.03Tekkubno, what gives you that idea?
05:44.29HjalteIs there any other addon than ct_raid using the buff duration timers from ct_raid and oRA2 to inform you of buff duration of party / raid members?
05:45.08trh_smartbuff/debuff i think
05:45.36trh_but it's not aced
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05:47.21HjalteAh. Hmm. I had that once actually. A bit too clumsy. I wish it was more like Corkfu.
05:49.10HjalteThanks
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06:07.01Tekkubokey who was asking about tekKompare?
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06:12.10CIA-1803kemayo * r29209 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Fix "$s" instead of "%s".
06:12.45Tekkubheh, he believe me too?
06:12.54CIA-1803kemayo * r29210 10AuldLangSyne/locales/enUS.lua: AuldLangSyne: Fix $s in other locales, too.
06:13.16KemayoI must salute next96's insane speed there.
06:15.36trh_who's nex96?
06:15.39trh_next
06:15.53KemayoSomeone who does Korean localizations.
06:16.00trh_ah.. like fenlis?
06:16.18CIA-1803gagorian * r29211 10DrDamage/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
06:16.18CIA-18DrDamage:
06:16.18CIA-18-Fixed Healing Way (actually only adds base damage). Added detection of libram and totem bonuses. Added back Ten Storms 3 part and Plagueheart 4 part bonuses. Added a few known issues to readme
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06:19.10CIA-1803kemayo * r29212 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Make notes show up on /who even if the player doesn't have a friend note.
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06:27.15ZealotOnAStickIceroth: like, repeatedly, him sheeping us right as he summons his elementals.  Makes it damn hard to CC them.
06:27.30CIA-1803gagorian * r29213 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
06:27.30CIA-18DrDamage:
06:27.30CIA-18-Don't add damage to undead/demons to spells that don't do dmg.
06:27.30sylvanaarwas someone saying prat was causing an issue with AFK messages
06:29.39OverloadUTKemayo: Works for me now :)
06:29.48OverloadUTsylvanaar: I dunno, it might be
06:30.13OverloadUTAll I know is that when testing my addon that sends literally hundreds of comm messages, I got hundreds of AFK notications in return if they were AFK :P
06:30.30KemayoOverloadUT: Yeah, it occurred to me that I had a conditional in there checking whether they had a friend note, but not any of the other kind of notes.
06:31.35OverloadUTsylvanaar: but it being Prat was just a random guess. Someone said that AceComm should filter out duplicate AFK messages, and Prat is the only mod I'm running that I think would interfere.
06:34.30Andune~seen Nymbia
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06:35.21OverloadUTNite everybody!
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06:38.30xyuis there any way to turn off ArenaMaster from autoreleasing me?
06:38.37xyui think it's that.
06:38.48xyui just tried it but i like to lay dead in the arenas  :(
06:39.06nymbiaAndune: sup
06:39.11sylvanaaracecomm and prat work the same way, they both hook MessageEventHandler
06:39.18nymbiaxyu: it might be honorfu
06:39.39MedlirCAPS parts... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79669889&&sid=1
06:39.43sylvanaaracecomm filters by returning from that hook
06:39.50xyui don't use honorfu o_O
06:40.17xyuoh actually i do have it.  wtf how'd that get installed HAH
06:40.23sylvanaarprat filters by capturing addmessage generated by that hook
06:40.25nymbiaxyu: probably not that then ;)
06:40.52xyuaddons mysteriously are mystieriously adding themselves i swear. ;P
06:40.58xyui had optitaunt somehow as well,
06:41.00xyudunno how
06:41.02xyuheh
06:41.18xyumysteriously just appeared twice as well.
06:41.29xyui'm just giddy cuz today is a holiday and i didn't know it.  can't type too hot
06:41.35xyugot to work. doors closed and locked.
06:41.38xyulots empty
06:41.41xyu./cheer
06:42.21nymbiaxyu: doesnt look like it releases
06:42.21JJSheetsI could just hear the following in the vatican:  "I'm a priest god damn it. My class has value."
06:42.26sylvanaarso how can i recreate it
06:42.50Andunenymbia: I think StatStain  is removing the ClosetGnome text on tooltips that tells me which part of my gear it belongs to
06:43.31sylvanaarxyu delete addons.txt from your WTF folders
06:43.52xyusylvanaar: oki i'll try ti.
06:43.57xyuwahh i can't type.
06:44.14Andunewhich is a shame.  I just found StatStain and love the concept, cool mod.  But I can't live w/o my ClosetGnome tooltips either..
06:44.26xyui tried to get my friend into ace2 addons.   he's got hte same addons as i do. but for some reason he can't roll on any loot
06:44.32xyuthe roll window just doesn't come up at all.
06:44.53xyuare there any addons that might be hiding the default need/greed window?
06:44.56nymbiaAndune: i'll take a look, thanks
06:47.04Andunehey nymbia:  nevermind.  I've been swapping 'em back and forth and it looks like StatComp is at fault, not StatStain.
06:47.27sylvanaaracecomm has a bug imo
06:47.34nymbiaAndune: ok
06:47.38Anduneso StatStain is back on my list.  I'll go bug phyber  :)  thanks..
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06:48.18sylvanaarbut, should return true if it is indeed trying to filter messages in MessageEventHandlet
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06:54.06PProvost_Wasn't Cartographer_Corpseway supposed to be rolled into Cartographer_Waypoints?
06:55.08CIA-1803fenlis * r29214 10friendminder/:
06:55.08CIA-18This project is renamed by author.
06:55.08CIA-18(to Friendminder)
06:55.24sylvanaari dont see it anymore, its gone
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06:57.00PProvost_Yes, I was told it was now part of Waypoints, but since deleting corpse I havent' actually had that functionality in Waypoints. Bummer.
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06:57.57Tupsimorning
06:58.04xyuhmm i thought there was a couple new pally addons in the ace2 list.  i can only find the fubar one atm.  
06:58.57xyui think it was something about buffs
06:59.15MedlirCorpsePoint.lua is in Waypoints
06:59.16Diabolic-Destiny< i hate chemistry
06:59.18Diabolic-Destinyits 2am!!
07:00.08MedlirMaybe just needs to be turned on.
07:00.49Diabolic-Destinyye chk ur config
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07:18.32trh_Diabolic-Destiny: you're lying.... it's 8:18... and still not slept :(
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07:32.38Arrowmasterthe down arrow for cart seems a little broken
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07:56.06Tekkub*cough*
07:56.11TekkubI wiin at forums
07:56.21TekkubI just banned myself from the wowace forum
07:56.32Tekkubwas trying to ban this guy http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5014.0;topicseen
07:57.26Nargiddleyhm
07:57.32Nargiddleyyou might have done more than that
07:57.38NargiddleySorry Nargiddley, you are banned from using this forum!
07:57.38NargiddleySpam
07:57.47TekkubLOL
07:57.54TekkubI win
07:58.09nymbiarofl
07:58.43nymbiayeah i'm banned too now
07:59.01Tekkubmuahahaha
07:59.04TekkubI didn't mean to!
07:59.11nymbiasuuuure
07:59.25nymbiamaybe everyone is banned?
07:59.26NightHawkTheSaneo_0
07:59.29nymbialol
07:59.44NightHawkTheSaneYeah, i think you m anaged to ban everyone
07:59.53nymbiahahaha
07:59.54ZealotOnAStickI'm banned and I'm a Global Moderator.
08:00.03Tekkubno I know what it is... there were two IPs, one listed as where his posts were coming from, and one as whee errors come from
08:00.04NightHawkTheSaneTekkub: you win the internets.
08:00.09TekkubI banned both
08:00.22Tekkubnice fatal feature they give us
08:00.23ZealotOnAStickProbably going to take Kaelten's account or direct DB access to fix.
08:00.24ilifinSorry ilifin, you are banned from using this forum!
08:00.25ilifinSpam
08:00.27ilifin:<
08:00.32nymbia*.*.*.*?
08:00.49Tekkubwell, welcome to mandator forum vacation everyone
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08:00.52pastamancerTekkub: lol
08:00.56nymbiarofl
08:01.15ZealotOnAStick*shrug*
08:01.30ZealotOnAStickOh well.  Everyone botmail Kaelten!  C'mon, it'll be fun!
08:01.34ilifinthis sure will cause quite the storm of people joining irc
08:01.38nymbiawoo
08:01.40pastamancerI can poke at it
08:01.50nymbiathanks pasta ;)
08:02.04ZealotOnAStickPasta - I'm not familiar with the backend of SMF.  Do you have mysql access?
08:02.19pastamancerI have all kinds of access
08:02.20ZealotOnAStickI'd bet it stores the IP bans in DB, but it's possible they might be in a config file or something.
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08:02.41ZealotOnAStickNifty.
08:02.44nymbiapastamancer is in ur forums unbanning ur localhost
08:03.49Tekkubshould we do this more often to get people on IRC?
08:04.04Tekkubat least noone will see tha spam now
08:04.06nymbiathey call that 'patch day'
08:04.54Elkanowell, I think admin should be accessible even when banned, but I'm not sure
08:05.07Elkanohas been a while since I used SMF
08:05.17Tekkub... if you know the admin addy?
08:05.41ZealotOnAStickNormal ban, yes, but I could easily see an IP ban circumventing that.
08:05.43Tekkuberm no, I still have admin page open, a refresh shows the you be banned page
08:05.56nymbiahaha
08:06.33Bejittuhhh wtf "Sorry Bejitt, you are banned from using this forum! Spam" >_>
08:06.40Bejittmaybe 3 posts to my name?
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08:07.43TemBejitt, I've seen that name before..
08:07.46Temwhat is it from?
08:07.55Tekkubthat'll lern you to use the forum!
08:08.13Bejitt>.>
08:08.42BejittBejitt is a take on the japanese spelling of Vegeto (DBZ)
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08:08.54Bejittmind you, this is an old-ass name ;p
08:09.14Bejittbut uh, seriously, why cant i get on forum >.>
08:09.42NightHawkTheSaneyou havn't paid your forum tax
08:09.48pastamancerhmm the source says admins can't be banned
08:09.49Bejitt:O
08:10.19ZealotOnAStickShouldn't be able to.  This is probably not really intended.
08:10.45Bejittthe thing is, i'm not even logged in
08:10.50ZealotOnAStickJust find the latest 2 records on the IP ban table and remove them, then fix the twit's address later.
08:11.12pastamancerwas it an ip ban?
08:11.19Tekkubyes
08:11.26Bejitto_O
08:11.32Tekkub209.9.227.67 and 61.171.150.242
08:12.32Bejittnot mine o_O
08:12.55pastamancertry now
08:13.08Bejittstill nada
08:13.09NightHawkTheSaneI dont suppose you've considered reading some of the back chat, hm? :P
08:13.27pastamancernope, haven't considered it
08:13.35NightHawkTheSanenot you pastamancer
08:13.39rubikhaha
08:13.43Bejittback chat?
08:13.46pastamanceroh, well I still haven't!
08:14.17Tekkubhttp://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=wowace.com&type=A
08:14.20xlviii'm reinstalling wow, fully, as i recently formatted
08:14.42xlviican i just use the normal discs, then install the expansion straight away? or do i have to download the patches for the original wow?
08:14.54rubikoh lol
08:15.10rubikyou banned A record of wowace.com eh?
08:15.37Bejitthah
08:15.47Silviu-xlvii u can use normal disks no need to patch before u install BC
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08:16.05xlviisilviu-, thank you.
08:16.10Silviu-But after u will need a 200 MB patch
08:16.22Silviu-WoW-2.0.0-to-2.0.3-enGB-Win-patch
08:16.32Silviu-And then the other small ones
08:16.32Silviu-;)
08:16.51Silviu-WoW-2.0.3.6299-to-2.0.7.6383-enGB-patch.exe
08:16.55Silviu-WoW-2.0.7.6383-to-2.0.8.6403-enGB-patch.exe
08:16.57Silviu-:P
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08:18.15Bejittrofl i finally read up
08:19.12Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page
08:19.13Tekkub^^
08:19.17nee|workUm, I just tried to visit the wowace forums and there's a notice that I have been banned for spamming?
08:19.30nee|work"An Error Has Occurred!
08:19.30nee|workSorry neenee, you are banned from using this forum!
08:19.30nee|workSpam
08:19.30Bejittignore that
08:19.33nee|workokay
08:19.37Bejittthey're working on it
08:19.42nee|workphew :)
08:19.59NightHawkTheSanenee|work: see tek's chat listing -right- before yours
08:20.04Bejitthaha i had the same 'wtf' moment a few mins ago
08:21.03*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> THAT"S RIGHT, YOU"RE BANNED! Please read the news: http://www.wowace.com/
08:21.09*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> THAT'S RIGHT, YOU"RE BANNED! Please read the news: http://www.wowace.com/
08:21.15nee|work*YOU'RE
08:21.16*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> THAT'S RIGHT, YOU'RE BANNED! Please read the news: http://www.wowace.com/
08:21.19Bejitthahaha
08:21.22MoonWolfTekkub, grumpy ?
08:21.28Tekkub^^
08:21.30ZealotOnAStickAny Ace2 addons have a setting that's intended to block the AlwaysUpFrame/PVP info?
08:21.50ZealotOnAStick-something- prevents it from showing, only on my Warlocks, in Hellfire Pen, in Black Morass, etc.
08:21.57ZealotOnAStickand I can't figure out what/why.
08:22.05MoonWolfsome people should not be allowed to use wildcards i guess.
08:22.14Tekkubdidn't use a wildcard
08:22.28pastamancerTekkub: are you unbanned yet?
08:22.38Tekkubdon't worry, I won't ban again, someone else can deal with spam
08:22.39MoonWolfmy account is fine :O
08:22.48Tekkubyou can get in moonie?
08:22.56Tekkuboh it's fixed
08:22.57Tekkubbah
08:22.59Tekkubno fun
08:23.04ZealotOnAStickback now.
08:23.05Tekkub*goes back to bannign
08:23.10pastamancerheh
08:23.16ZealotOnAStick<PROTECTED>
08:23.27MoonWolflol
08:23.29TekkubI lost the old topic... anyone got it hondy?
08:23.34*** topic/#wowace by Tekkub -> Nothing to see here
08:23.37*** topic/#wowace by MoonWolf -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7-final http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | You gotta break some lions to make an omlet
08:23.45pastamancerI ended up giving myself forum admin rights so I didn't have to muck with the db directly
08:24.00MoonWolfhmm
08:24.17ElkanoTekkub, how did you fix it?
08:24.18CIA-1803sylvanaar * r29215 10Prat/Prat.lua: (log message trimmed)
08:24.18CIA-18Prat: The forums are kinda slow, so this commit should help with that. Be sure
08:24.18CIA-18to pass the return value from the ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler when we return.
08:24.18CIA-18We handle a return value of true just like blizzard, and stop processing, since
08:24.18CIA-18by definition, nothing should have happened (in blizzard's code). If other
08:24.19CIA-18addons hook MEH returning true from them indicates normal processing, and prat
08:24.22CIA-18will be looking for output from them. In order to change the behaviour of CF_MEH
08:24.31MoonWolfi was hoping my supermoderater powers would come in handy some day.
08:24.31TekkubMAJICK!
08:24.35MoonWolfbut no, others have to fix it.
08:24.44pastamancerMoonWolf: too slow! :p
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08:26.49ZealotOnAStickok, and I just logged in on my other computer, same character, same addons loaded . . . and the PVP info is there.
08:27.27MoonWolfit hates you.
08:27.56ZealotOnAStickSo, it's got to be some -setting- somewhere.
08:28.04ZealotOnAStickI just don't have the foggiest fucking clue what.
08:28.09MoonWolfno it simply hates you.
08:28.26ZealotOnAStickI play a Warlock, everything hates me, I'm used to it.
08:28.46BejittTekkub: Question about Gratuity: what would it take to get the line numbers from Find/FindDeformat/etc results? >.>
08:28.54ZealotOnAStickOMFG . . .
08:28.56ZealotOnAStickIt can't be that easy . . .
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08:29.17MoonWolfit is *pops Cloak of shadows*
08:29.25mitch0morgen
08:29.26sylvanaarcloak of skill
08:29.39MoonWolfi prefer to call it, cloack of die.
08:29.41ZealotOnAStickNo no.
08:29.42NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: isnst there an interface option to hide zone objectives?
08:29.46ZealotOnAStickNot and addon at all.
08:29.55MoonWolfor also known as, cloack of , who needs priests or mages.
08:30.02TekkubBejitt, dunno, why do you need them
08:30.05ZealotOnAStickI had it set to "Dynamic" in the game's interface settings for World PvP Objectives.
08:30.26ZealotOnAStickIf that fixes it after all the time I've spent trying to figure this out . . .
08:30.33NightHawkTheSanewhat does  "dynamic" do, anyways?
08:30.41nee|workI think it shows it when there are changes
08:30.41Silviu-ZealotOnAStick did u look in interface options ?
08:30.42Bejittwell, so i know what line to start the search after
08:30.47Bejittand it kinda makes sense?
08:30.47ZealotOnAStickIF I'm right, apparently breaks Black Morass
08:30.58ZealotOnAStickwell, the useful informative displays in there, at any rate.
08:31.01NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: yeah, but what -doesnt- break black morass
08:31.06Silviu-ZealotOnAStick yes in Dinamic in black morass it won`t show
08:31.12Silviu-U must make it on normal :)
08:31.25ZealotOnAStickThat is so incredibly effing idiotic . . .
08:31.58pastamancerwait... there's a progress thingy in black morass?
08:32.04Silviu-Yes
08:32.05Bejitthaha
08:32.05Silviu-:P
08:32.10pastamancerI'll be damned
08:32.10NightHawkTheSanepastamancer: lol
08:32.21NightHawkTheSanepastamancer: there's one in durnholde, too!
08:32.25pastamancer!!!
08:32.40pastamancerI guess it's not really needed though
08:32.43ZealotOnAStickI didn't know about Durnholde.
08:32.58pastamancerI didn't miss it except for getting drunk and getting the second and final bosses mixed up
08:32.59ZealotOnAStickBut in BM, yeah, supposedly a % on Medivh's shield, and a wave counter.
08:32.59NightHawkTheSanethe durnholde one just shows how many barracks youve put explosives in
08:33.07nevcairieluh nice, Slouken gave us the LoD-Stub support
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08:33.46NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: no supposedly about it, thats precisely what it shows
08:34.06sylvaanhrm
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08:34.31sylvaanwhy did that happen
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08:34.56nee|workWould be nice if there was an addon to show that bar instead :)
08:35.06ZealotOnAStickNightHawkTheSane: I was being a bit sarcastic, as I've never seen it, since I had my World PvP Display set to "Dynamic"
08:35.34ZealotOnAStickWhich, you know, you'd think important instance info like that would be something that they'd figure would be worth showing.
08:35.45renchapsylvaan: i have a bug with prat
08:35.49renchap(last svn version)
08:35.59renchapi cant see the text on my channels ^^
08:36.00ZealotOnAStickArgh, and damn my back STILL itches and is sore.
08:36.15renchapno /g, /s, /p, /w, ...
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08:38.17lacindashello all
08:38.29pastamancerTekkub: oh, I found out how you managed to ban yourself, global moderator ~= administrator
08:38.46Tekkubheh
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08:39.21ZealotOnAStickNo.  Still, you'd think it's a bit of a glaring oversight that the software allows you to ban its own host IP.
08:39.45ZealotOnAStickand that it results in such interesting results if done.
08:39.57pastamancerthat's probably related to how we're using squid
08:40.09Tekkubaye, it shouldn't make it easy and look like a good thing to do
08:40.09lacindasis there some sort of odd banning issue going on with the forums at the moment?
08:40.21pastamancerif you're not logged in, you should be getting cached pages
08:41.01ZealotOnAStickI was logged in, though.  A refresh took it to the banned thing, and logged me out.
08:41.35lacindassame, im getting a "banned, spam" error
08:41.46ZealotOnAStickrefresh again, lacindas.
08:42.11ZealotOnAStickunless you're the evil spammer!1111one!
08:42.25lacindasjust clicked the login link instead of using the login box at the top, worked fine lol
08:42.43lacindasi made 1 post today lol, if thats spam someone ban Tek :P
08:43.04ZealotOnAStickHmm.  I probably could . . .
08:43.06lacindasty for the help :)
08:43.07lacindaslol
08:43.09ZealotOnAStickbut I suspect that'd be unwise.
08:43.15lacindas./nod
08:43.30NightHawkTheSaneIt'd be funny, though
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08:44.34sylvaanrenchap more info
08:44.36xlviiThe rogue is one of the most lethal character classes in the game,
08:44.36xlviiable to deal out immense damage in a short period of time.
08:44.40xlviiwhat happened to that, eh?
08:45.08NightHawkTheSanexlvii: everyone else got jealous
08:45.14nee|workThey are still that
08:45.25renchapsylvaan: when i want to say something in /s, /g, /w, /4, ... nothing happens
08:45.53sylvaanrenchap nothing happens when....you pres enter?
08:46.01renchapyes ^^
08:46.04nee|workBut now people see 'immense damage in a short period as time' as 'most damage of all classes in a short period of time', or rather, hoped it was so.
08:46.25renchapi press enter, type my text, enter
08:46.27renchapand nothing
08:46.40ZealotOnAStickYep, theory confirmed.
08:46.54xlviione would think if a rogue could do an immense damage in a short period of time, rogues would be able to keep dishing out more damage.
08:47.11nee|workThey say nothing about 'more damage'
08:47.17nee|workIt's not a comparison
08:47.19renchapsylvaan: and no errors
08:47.23xlviioh well, i suppose i just have to qqmore.
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08:47.28xlviieventually reroll.
08:47.31xlviias no one wants me.
08:47.33isildornot necessairly
08:47.51sylvaanrenchap no-repro
08:47.54xlviiThe mage is a master of powerful mystic energies, able to use
08:47.54xlviimagic in the most spectacular and destructive of ways. Mages are
08:47.54xlviia fragile class, with little health and poor fighting ability.
08:47.54nee|workYou can sap and slow down mobs, isn't that useful in instances?
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08:48.03renchapfrFR client, maybe
08:48.11xlvii'mages are a fragile class, with little health.'
08:48.19nee|workIndeed they are, by definition.
08:48.33NightHawkTheSanenee|work: yep, sap is wonderful in heroics. Sap -> splat-> dead :P
08:48.36nee|workUnless people choose to get stamina items
08:48.44nee|workNightHawkTheSane: :)
08:48.46sylvaanrenchap turn on debugging, and use the development menu to enable OUTPUT debugging
08:49.01xlviinighthawkthesane, you're a rogue too, right?
08:49.02jjb_moin
08:49.07sylvaanthen copychat to a pastey
08:49.16NightHawkTheSanexlvii: not currently, but i used to play one
08:49.23xlviiwhat're you now?
08:49.45NightHawkTheSaneive got a warrior and shaman i play most often now
08:50.41renchapsylvaan: people see my messages
08:50.41nee|workWell, I think there was a point where people started caring more about how much damage a class did compared to other classes instead of focusing on what other things a class can do.
08:50.49renchapbut i cant see mine
08:50.54renchapand cant see what they say ^^
08:51.11sylvaandid you make a pastey?
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08:51.46renchaphttp://ace.pastey.net/7352
08:52.40Nickenyfikenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5014.0;topicseen heh
08:52.53sylvaanwhat mods are you running?
08:53.12nee|workNickenyfiken: egh
08:53.20NightHawkTheSanenee|work: precisely :\
08:53.30Sroshwhat's up with Cart_Waypoints going in then out then in...?
08:53.31Nickenyfikensomeone delete it :-P
08:54.22renchapsylvaan: lot of mods, but when i disable ace it works fine
08:54.31sylvaanyeah, of course
08:54.34renchapans works fine 9h ago
08:54.37renchap*and
08:54.59sylvaanhave you restarted your game?
08:55.37renchapyes
08:55.42renchapseems to be since my prat update
08:55.47mitch0did the patch come out?
08:55.55NightHawkTheSaneno
08:56.13sylvaando you use embedded libraries?
08:56.24renchapnop
08:56.33sylvaanfubar?
08:56.40renchapyes :)
08:56.42nee|workNightHawkTheSane: It always baffeled me when we were in an instance, asked for the rogue we had along to sap, and then hearing him or her say 'I can't'. 'I don't have improved sap'. It felt as if that rogue didn't learn a skill, inherent to their class. Like lock-picking or vanishing. Then again, I can't blame people for not learning it, as there are plenty of priests who go shadow-form and heal less good, or druids who are f
08:58.12NightHawkTheSanenee|work: yeah, that's a little obnoxious. But in some cases, that's a justified reaction. If its a lot of mobs, the rogue can be insta-gibbed before agro can be picked up. ANd in heroics, those mobs will one or two shot a rogue easy. :\
08:58.22Fisker-this is my sylvaan-face
08:59.08MoonWolfalthough i pick up imp sap, that does not mean I SHOULD even now its out of the way for a combat or assasination rogue
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08:59.18Fisker-Improved Sap isn't a vital Rogue skill
08:59.28MoonWolfand frankly, yes having sap is nice, but don't depend on it in a group.
08:59.33renchapsylvaan: http://perso.renchap.com/addons.JPG
09:00.00renchapsome addons like swstats are disabled
09:00.05NightHawkTheSaneMoonWolf: well, its a lot more reliable as CC now that it can't heartbeat resist.
09:00.35mitch0it never had heartbeat resists?
09:00.37nee|workI was just giving an example of people focusing more on damage than on utility/survivability. I wasn't having a go at rogues. Egh. I have to tip-toe enough on my guild forums to say sorry and such for everything here. Very long toes on our forums.
09:01.13NightHawkTheSanemitch0: all cc's were moved to have heartbeat resists a few patches ago, then they changed sap to not
09:01.45NightHawkTheSanenee|work: hah,  no need to apologize :)
09:01.56MoonWolfheartbeat resisting sap would have put it on the USELESS list.
09:02.22mitch0well, poly has always been on hb, sap never (then again, maybe there was a 2 week period between two patches when sap had hb, too, but then I missed that :)
09:03.48nee|workNightHawkTheSane: Good. I can't even say 'Working out your own tactics feels like more of an accomplishment than using someone elses' on our forums. Some see it as an attack against the one posting a link to a movie of another guild. *sighs, then stops moaning* :P :)
09:03.58MoonWolfsap is a very risky skill to aply compared to any other form of cc, it can't be reaplied and only works on humanoids, the only thing it has going for it is not starting combat.
09:04.02NightHawkTheSanemitch0: well, from 2.0.3 patch notes: "There is no longer a random chance the effect of "Sap" will end (i.e. removed the heartbeat resist check). The effect will still end early when the target is damaged."
09:04.13nee|workhttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6933-Bonuses.html <-- That seems like a nice addon :) Compares stats of items :)
09:04.33CIA-1803sylvanaar * r29216 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Dont use the return value from MEH to stop furthe proecessing as mentioned in last commit. just pass it along for now.
09:05.57Fisker-how boned am i when "Say" is enabled and yet i see no messages in there? :o
09:06.03Fisker-dooh
09:06.05Fisker-other channels too
09:06.06Fisker-:(
09:06.28NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: very. you'll have to reinstall wow. *nods sagely*
09:06.53Fisker-of course
09:06.54Fisker-:P
09:07.05Fisker-so what do i really have to do?
09:07.08nee|workAnd delete your WTF and Interface dirs
09:07.23nee|workUpdate your drivers too :)
09:07.33Fisker-i'm going to rape you
09:07.35renchapand update prat
09:07.36renchap^^
09:07.41nee|worker, right
09:07.41NightHawkTheSanehonestly,  you're just going to have to completely reformat
09:07.51nee|workAnd install OS/2 Warp
09:08.08renchapand give me $200
09:08.16nee|workAnd order me a pizza :)
09:08.18MoonWolfbuy a mac
09:08.27isildoryou just showed your age
09:08.30nee|worka Mac Shake :)
09:08.33renchapkill a chicken
09:08.33isildorunfortunitly i did too :)
09:08.37MoonWolfand install linux on your ipod.
09:08.51Fisker-phew
09:08.53nee|workEgh, I put linux on mine once.
09:08.53Fisker-i don't use ipod
09:09.01NightHawkTheSanebuy one, and put linux on it
09:09.28nee|workOr get a Zune and squirt people
09:09.41Fisker-hmm nee|work seems better than statcomp
09:09.41renchapsylvaan: seems to work, thanks !
09:09.52NightHawkTheSanenee|work: now that's just disgusting
09:10.03NightHawkTheSanewho in their right mind would buy a zune
09:10.05nee|workFisker-: It seems quite nice indeed :) I haven't tried it yet though
09:10.06MoonWolfget anal lube and squirt people.
09:10.14nee|workNightHawkTheSane: Indeed. I am not sure who came up with that
09:10.22MoonWolfthen tell them you think it pretty gay they are covered in anal lube.
09:10.48MoonWolfmaybe ripoff some jokes from online comics.
09:11.01sylvaanyeah, seems like you have a mod that returns true properly, whereas one of mine does not
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09:11.29Fisker-It's chat-cache you delete right?
09:11.39renchapFisker-: update prat
09:12.15Fisker-it's updated
09:12.17sylvaantoo many mods return nil from that hook
09:12.20renchapr29215 is buggy
09:12.25Fisker-ah damn you sylvaan
09:12.27Fisker-YOU BROKE MY CHAT
09:12.38Fisker-now i have to wait for up to 12 minutes
09:12.57sylvaanjust get it using http
09:13.06MoonWolfc:\> Kill fisker
09:13.13Fisker-As compensation you'll have to put in a officer-note/guild-note addition to /who
09:13.14Fisker-:P
09:13.14MoonWolf- Kill fisker with what
09:13.19renchapFisker-: http://wowace.com/trac/changeset?new=trunk%4029216&old=trunk%4029215
09:13.20MoonWolfc:\> His own Knife
09:13.25MoonWolf- Fine Fisker dies.
09:13.34sylvaanit
09:13.41CIA-1803overloadut * r29217 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/ (Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc Locale-enUS.lua addon.lua): (log message trimmed)
09:13.41CIA-18Cartographer_QuestObjectives:
09:13.41CIA-18- DB Update: Slight change to accommodate new features. Old databases will be automatically updated.
09:13.41CIA-18- Added: Ability to manually request notes from your party.
09:13.41CIA-18- Added: Ability to request a "Full Database" from your party or guild. This
09:13.44CIA-18will send over every note for every quest that your party members have. When
09:13.46CIA-18this is done via guild, people will only send notes that they personally
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09:13.59NightHawkTheSane$ kill -9 Fisker
09:14.10OverloadUTAnd the foll log for those interested ;) http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace/.message/d78413
09:14.18sylvaanis actually the reverse = if that function returns true, you should process it, but even acecomm doesnt return true
09:14.54Fisker-is it part of the Cartographer package OverloadUT?
09:15.13Fisker-nope :o
09:15.21Fisker-does it make cartographer_quests obsolete?
09:15.41sylvaanOverloadUT how can i reproduce the error you mentioned
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09:16.34OverloadUTFisker-: No, it's designed to work alongside Cart_Quests. I recommend doing so. :) More info (just updated):http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer_QuestObjectives
09:16.43OverloadUTsylvaan: Which error?
09:16.48Fisker-alright
09:16.51Fisker-i'll check it out
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09:17.24sylvaanOverloadUT something about AFK
09:18.09OverloadUTsylvaan: Oh. Well, you should be able to reproduce it simply by having one character go afk, and then using AceComm to send a bunch hidden messages to him via the "WHISPER" chan
09:18.53OverloadUTIn my testing it's always been 150+ messages; I never actually paid attention to if it was doing from the first one or only after a while.
09:19.20renchapOverloadUT: works with frFR client ?
09:19.41OverloadUTrenchap: It should "work" just fine although I don't have frFR translations
09:19.44OverloadUTI would love them ;)
09:19.48renchapok
09:19.51renchapi will test this
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09:20.00renchapand then add the translation
09:20.00OverloadUTAlso I would be interested to know if it does work on foreign clients; I coded it with foreign clients in mind
09:20.01CIA-1803nymbia * r29218 10StatStain/ (StatStain-enUS.lua StatStain-koKR.lua StatStain.lua):
09:20.01CIA-18StatStain:
09:20.01CIA-18- Added a few new patterns for existing stats.
09:20.01CIA-18- Simplified options table generation.
09:20.15OverloadUTOne limitation of course is that yo ucan't share notes with someone on a different locale, because quests are in your own language
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09:20.24OverloadUTAnd there is no Babble-Quests because that would be huge :P
09:20.36OverloadUTNot to mention impossible to keep up to date
09:21.12Fisker-I can just imagine a cartographer plugin that show _ALL_ quests
09:21.22Fisker-and if it was drop quests it would show in a sidebar
09:21.42OverloadUTFisker-: My mod will do that if you play enough. ;)
09:22.00OverloadUTAlso with the guild sharing features it could potentially get a lot of data really fast
09:22.31sylvaanOverloadUT well, if you want to help debug it thats cool, gotta get a trace of it
09:23.02OverloadUTsylvaan: I am about to go to sleep now (1:22 here) but I'd be happy to help later
09:23.23sylvaanok
09:23.59OverloadUTNite!
09:24.39Fisker-Tekkub
09:24.56Tekkubwhat?
09:25.16Fisker-Can i remove tekkompare.lua to enjoy the functionality of the hyperlink function?
09:25.19Fisker-without it barfing
09:26.14sylvaanat least i looked into it, i should just blame someone else...grumble
09:26.43Tekkubyou should be able to
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09:26.53Fisker-alright
09:26.54Tekkubthe two should be completely independant
09:26.57Fisker-you must be some kind of supergod then
09:27.05Tekkub:P the code is simple
09:27.20Fisker-<-easily impressed
09:27.21Tekkubit just makes sense to keep the functionality seperated
09:28.08CIA-1803sylvanaar * r29219 10Prat/modules/Filtering.lua: Prat: Added filtering of channel notices other than leave/join.
09:28.13nymbiaTekkub: no! everything must be confusingly intertwined!
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09:28.25Fisker-yes
09:28.27Fisker-screw oop
09:28.36Fisker-Use a lot of goto's and stuff like that
09:31.12TekkubI just photocopied the cat
09:31.12Tekkubhe wanted me to do it
09:31.12nevcairieli bet he did
09:31.19nymbiahe deserved it
09:31.30Tekkubhe was walking all over the panel
09:31.39nymbiahaha
09:31.42Tekkubso I opened it, shoved him on the glas , and had my fun
09:33.26Fisker-probably blind now :(
09:33.27Fisker-poor cat
09:33.37NightHawkTheSane.... wtb scans of the photocopies
09:34.08nymbiai'd scan my cat but my scanner's broke :(
09:34.32Tekkubhad another round, this time I PDF'd him to the hubby
09:35.11nymbiapdf cat.  i like it.
09:35.11NightHawkTheSaneway to confuse your spouse 724?
09:35.27NightHawkTheSaneer, add # in there somewhere.
09:35.30nymbiahahaha
09:35.53Tekkublesse how it turned out
09:36.22Tekkubnot as good as the photocopy :P
09:36.25Tekkubwho wants one?
09:36.28nee|workme
09:36.34Tekkubemail
09:36.39nee|workneenee@gmail.com
09:36.55Tekkubanyone else?
09:36.56NightHawkTheSanetoss it up on a website somewhere and post the url here :P
09:36.56nee|workI'll put it on a webserver to show my girlfriend if it's a nice pic
09:37.01nymbianymbia@gmail
09:37.18NightHawkTheSanenighthawkthesane@gmail I gotta see this.
09:37.30echos<PROTECTED>
09:37.42Tekkubsented
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09:38.18nee|workechos: gmail is my for-everything e-mail addy :) No complaints, ever ;)
09:38.21nymbiafuzzy
09:38.34echosI know I have a gmail account too
09:38.40CIA-1803next96 * r29220 10AuldLangSyne/locales/koKR.lua:
09:38.40CIA-18AuldLangSyne:
09:38.40CIA-18- Update locale koKR
09:38.51NightHawkTheSanehaha, oh god that poor cat
09:38.53echosI like the dynamic emails you can do too
09:38.56Fisker-btw nymbia
09:38.58Fisker-requesttime!
09:39.02echosso like echosx+ace@gmail.com
09:39.07nymbia~flee
09:39.16purlACTION runs away screaming
09:39.16Tekkubyou have no idea how stupid this cat is
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09:39.17Fisker-http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6933-Bonuses.html
09:39.32xlviitekkub, timmmie@gmail.com
09:39.34Fisker-I heard that all 1337 people makes their addon work with that tone
09:40.01nee|workIt looks quite artistic though :)
09:40.14nymbiaFisker-: does it not work?
09:40.46Nickenyfiken"Bonuses will also by default hide unnecessary stats for your class from the tooltip, for example hiding Int, Spirit and +Healing for Warriors, and hiding Str, Agi, and Hit rating from casters."
09:40.49Nickenyfikeni would never want that
09:41.25Fisker-Nope nymbia
09:41.46Fisker-also i'd like it to show his compared stats as it too
09:41.55nymbiaFisker-: just on its special tooltips or on all tooltips?  and which mod wins?
09:42.19echosAnyone around that's capable of applying a fix I put together for BigWigs>Karazhan>Curator (http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3248.msg85673#msg85673)?
09:42.20TekkubI'd prefer that not take the place of tK but instead add another tip with the diff info in it
09:42.36Fisker-Only on it's own tooltip nymbia
09:45.07CIA-1803nymbia * r29221 10StatStain/StatStain.lua:
09:45.07CIA-18StatStain:
09:45.07CIA-18- Maybe some Bonuses support.
09:45.16nymbiaFisker-: try
09:45.36Fisker-i will
09:45.41nymbiaFisker-: all i did was add the tooltips to the hook list so it may or may not actually work ;)
09:45.50Fisker-But not until you finish your sundae's
09:46.01nymbia:(
09:47.12nymbiaman.. JumpCounter is depressing
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09:47.35nymbiai've jumped 150,000 times since TBC was released.
09:47.46NightHawkTheSanelol
09:48.03Fisker-well pressed space
09:48.08JensPrat ate my combat log :(
09:48.12Fisker-^^
09:48.14Fisker-Prat ate it all
09:48.19Fisker-try updating to the newest
09:48.27Fisker-sylvaan says it unbreaks something but breaks some more
09:48.28NightHawkTheSaneyeah nymbia, what's more depressing is that you hit your space bar 150k times
09:48.30Fisker-well i say that he says it
09:48.31JensI updated an hour ago or something.
09:48.33NightHawkTheSane-just- jumping
09:48.34JensI'll try again.
09:48.48Fisker-you got owned nymbia
09:48.57nee|workhttp://legionoflore.com/bin/scanned_cat.pdf
09:49.05Fisker-i.e. didn't work :P
09:49.09nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: more than that, since it doesnt count presses while flying
09:49.27NightHawkTheSanewell, flying doesnt really count as jumping, so. :P
09:49.40Fisker-it does count multiple times if you spam it though
09:49.44nymbiaits its spacebarring!
09:49.48Fisker-that's how i usually jump!
09:49.52nymbiaFisker-: not anymore
09:49.54Fisker-oh
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09:50.33nymbiaFisker-: it counts a max of one jump per 0.8 seconds, which is the airborne time for a level jump ;)
09:50.51NightHawkTheSanewell, sometimes i use the zero keypad key just to change it up a bit.. but..
09:50.52Fisker-heh
09:50.55Adirelle|workis there a search feature on the forum ?
09:51.03nee|workofcourse
09:51.09nee|workclick on the search link at the top.
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09:51.31Adirelle|workdoh...
09:51.34nee|work:)
09:51.45Adirelle|workI'm trying to find it since 5 minutes...
09:51.57Adirelle|workwas looking for a nice big button :)
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09:52.10xyuooo a lifestone just dropped.
09:52.18xyumy first BoE epic ever and i've played since beta
09:52.37NightHawkTheSaneum, grats?
09:52.37nymbiaman
09:52.56Fisker-never gotten an epic solo :(
09:53.00Tovortgratz
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09:53.21xyutoo bad i'm sure they go for like 30g now a days :P
09:53.32nymbiaone of those BoE feral staffs dropped in heroic shadow labs yesterday.. i rolled a 22.  the guy sold it for upwards of 3000
09:53.53xyuyikes
09:53.59nee|workxyu: Congratulations :)
09:54.01TovortI found a Myrmidion Signet once, gave it to my Paladin - was my first char, so sick in retrospective
09:54.02NightHawkTheSanexyu: depends on the epic, really
09:54.08xyuit's a lifestone....
09:54.19Tekkubah I got a much beter scan of the cat
09:54.22mitch0we found a lvl 40ish epic leather chest once
09:54.26xyuit won't fetch much ^_^
09:54.26nymbiaonly ones i've gotten solo were a lifestone and a brain hacker
09:54.29NightHawkTheSanehmm.. those used to be good..
09:54.35nee|workTekkub: neenee@gmail.com :)
09:55.05xyui'll throw it up for 70g see if i can get it.  it's over twink level so i dont know :/
09:55.05NightHawkTheSaneonly thing ive gotten solo is Destiny, I won Hurricane in a ST run once
09:56.25TekkubI've gotten 2 blue BoE's, that's it
09:56.35Fisker-luckily i've gotten a lot more than that
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09:56.38Fisker-only gotten one worth something though
09:56.38NightHawkTheSaneoh yeah, i won a warden staff once.. i'm pretty sure it's also still sitting on the druid i had every intention of leveling.
09:57.18xyui have one of those druids
09:57.18xyulvl 23 sitting in stone talon inn
09:57.18xyui had full intention of leveling it too :(
09:57.18NightHawkTheSanemine's 30 in freewind post :)
09:57.38nee|workI finally picked up my hunter :)
09:57.39nee|workShe's level 45 now
09:57.43NightHawkTheSaneill be happy if i can get this shammyt to 70, really
09:57.52xyusame but w/ this pally
09:58.01xyui just lvld 59 when that lifestone dropped too
09:58.08NightHawkTheSanei'm way too much of a perfectionist to have much time or patience for too many alts :\
09:58.24CIA-1803ammo * r29222 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua: BigWigs: (Romulo&Julianne): better phase descriptions :)
09:58.29xyuI'm usually that way.  but all my real life friends rolled on a different server than my main
09:58.32xyuand a different faction :(
09:58.37ilifinI poked my shaman up to 49 already, tried some 40-49 PvP and found out that every 9 of 10 horde is an absurdly well enchanted twink bastard >_>
09:58.44xyui usually have 1 char and stick w/ it always.
09:58.59NightHawkTheSaneilifin: trust me, that works both ways
09:59.02nee|workI can't wait to be 51 for AV :)
09:59.06xyuand i kind of get pissed when we do instance runs and ppl fill it with alts
09:59.10xyuthat start getting loot over me.
09:59.18ilifinNightHawkTheSane - considering I was the only 49 for 10 games straight... no chance
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10:00.03nee|workI used my girlfriends' high-level paladin to escort my hunter through Uldaman to get the Pole + gun from there :) Beats rolling
10:00.44xyui agree. i finally did a pug BRD run yesterday, my first pug in like a year.  get there. had to wait 1 hour before ppl are ready / have all the quests they want.
10:00.50xyuzone in.  healer and rogue leaves w/o reason
10:00.57nee|work:|
10:01.08xyuso i'm done w/ that for another year :)
10:01.16nymbiahaha
10:01.50xyuhmm does the census+ mod still exist.
10:01.58xyui'm kind of curious how quickly i'm leveling compared to other people my level.
10:02.14Gnarfozit does
10:02.25CIA-1803fenlis * r29223 10StatStain/StatStain-koKR.lua:
10:02.25CIA-18StatStain:
10:02.25CIA-18- Updated localization koKR
10:02.36Gnarfozdunno who maintains it, tho. wasn't it part of cosmos at some point? or did they just package it
10:03.03xyulast updated on ui.wow  was 06/09/06  
10:03.04xyuhmm
10:04.25nymbiaeven if it doesnt work, probably just needs some lua 5.1 fixes
10:04.25Fisker-get it from www.warcraftrealms.com
10:04.25xyuk
10:04.25Fisker-should work there
10:04.25nee|workTekkub: Indeed it's much better :)
10:04.49Fisker-damn
10:04.57Fisker-forgot there's a new episode of stargate today
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10:12.00ThraeWho setup the CIA bot for #wowace?
10:12.55nee|workJust converting that pdf to jpg or such, makes it smaller.
10:14.54echosAmmo> What would you recommend as a tool for generating diffs? WinMerge or just the gnu diff tool?
10:15.24Thraeechos: gnu diff
10:15.26[Ammo]svn diff
10:15.32[Ammo]since you're comparing against trunk
10:15.46[Ammo]posting large pages of code without explanation or diff -> ignore
10:16.00ThraeI thought svn diff only worked for comparing two repositories
10:16.15[Ammo]it compares your working copy against the revision you checked out
10:16.17[Ammo]so you get your changes
10:16.25[Ammo]which is in this case what echos needs to do
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10:17.09echosSo can svn diff be done with TortiseSVN?
10:17.20krkayes
10:17.23echoskk
10:17.55HealthGood shit.
10:18.51krkavisit to the bathroom was pleasant?
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10:33.06NightHawkTheSanesince when did heartseeking xbow get a chance to deal shadow damage?
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10:35.56nevcairielsome patch
10:36.46echosammo> Here is your patch file http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3248.msg85673#msg85673
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10:38.50[Ammo]why remove the Evocation function and duplicate code
10:39.16echosits not duplicated
10:39.23echosthe code is only used once
10:39.36echosthe other code is for the begging timer which happens 6 sec earlier
10:39.46[Ammo]hm
10:41.12echosThe main issue was that the timer for evocate was coming up til after the first evocate. I also was looking into deadly boss mods and it shows it sec earlier as well
10:41.57echosI also cleaned up the code so that everything works properly when specific things are disabled.
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10:44.10nee|workTekkub's cat scanned: http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7611/catscanvy3.png :)
10:44.26Tekkubwewt!
10:44.35Tekkubwork cat, not home
10:44.55HealthYou have a work cat?
10:45.16Tekkubyes, he's braindamaged from all the chemicals we have on the hard too
10:45.16krkayou don't?
10:45.25wobinhard?
10:45.32Tekkubyard
10:46.04HealthOuch
10:46.08wobin=(
10:46.18Tekkubwell, not "officially"
10:46.24echoslol its a cat-scan
10:46.27Tekkubhe's just stupid and we blame the chemicals
10:46.36[Ammo]ofcourse being around you can't be good either :p
10:46.37nee|workechos: :) indeed
10:46.57Tekkublike he has no reflexes, whe he's asleep you can pick his head up by the ear and drop it and he won't wake up
10:47.07wobin><
10:47.14Tekkubthe boss's lil girl came in one day and he was asleep on the desk...
10:47.23Tekkubshe picks him up , he's all limp
10:47.31Tekkubshe freaks out, thought he was dead
10:47.34Tekkubdrops him :)
10:47.35wobinHe's not a ragdoll cat is he?
10:47.41Tekkubyea, he is
10:48.15Gnarfozdid he wake up when she dropped him? ;D
10:48.19Tekkubyea
10:48.24Tekkubbut he didn't land on feet
10:48.31wobin*thunk*
10:48.33Gnarfoz:3
10:48.40nee|workI never heard of a ragdoll cat
10:48.46wobinThey're really freaky
10:48.49nee|workBut I just looked it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragdoll :)
10:48.50wobinyou can toss them around
10:49.26nee|work'What is known is that this breed was selectively bred over many years for desirable traits, such as large size, gentle demeanor, and a tendency to go limp when picked up.'
10:49.42nee|workIs going limp a desirable trait?
10:49.59NightHawkTheSane...
10:50.01wobinFor ragdolls, yeah =)
10:50.14Tekkublol
10:50.17nee|work:)
10:50.21Tekkubhe's not too gentile
10:50.27wobinYou pick them up under the arms, and they droop
10:50.27nee|workAh, *puts down the phone to his doctor*
10:50.33Tekkubhe'll bite you if he's beign playful
10:50.37nee|workVery odd, I've never seen that
10:50.42evlneed new unit frames! :P
10:50.49evlag is wierding out on me so much these days
10:50.51nee|workevl: What for?
10:51.01odttoo bad i have a cat allergy
10:51.02nee|workDefine 'wierding out'?
10:51.12nee|workodt: Can't you get a Sphinx cat?
10:51.15nee|workThey are hairless
10:51.20nymbiamy cat mauls me when she's being playful.. but that's really my own damn fault
10:51.39evlit's unresponsive, sometimes it takes a while to update, the default frames are on the mark and when I die sometimes it doesn't reset etc. :P
10:51.41odthmm, should check that in a couple of years
10:51.49nee|work:|
10:51.52Tekkubhe's fallen out of the window or off the desk a number of times when he's asleep too
10:52.07nymbiahahaha
10:52.12odtout of the window? lol
10:52.22nee|workhttp://members.shaw.ca/kasandrafoxmemorial/images/Vincent_1996_with_head_tilted.jpg
10:52.24wobinhe needs a crib =)
10:52.28Tekkubyes, out of the window into a box, upsidedown
10:52.33NightHawkTheSaneout of the window? please tell me you dont work above the first floor
10:52.39wobinNah, I don't really like sphinxes
10:52.41nee|workhttp://www.don-sphinx.ru/gallery/images/cat_41b.jpg
10:52.54Tekkubanything not-furry is just wrong
10:53.07Tekkuball mammals should be furry
10:53.12wobindolphins?
10:53.19nee|workGood point:)
10:53.19Tekkubyea sure whatever
10:53.33Tekkubthey still can't out-cute otters
10:53.38wobintrue
10:53.39Tekkubeven if they're furry
10:55.04nee|workApparently dolphins do have some hair
10:55.27nee|workUnlike most mammals, dolphins do not have hair, but they are born with a few hairs around the tip of their rostrum which they lose after some time, in some cases even before they are born. River dolphins usually have them all their life and are believed to have a sensory function. Even in those species which lose the hair the follicles remain, and it is possible that the nerves connected to them are still able to detect movem
10:55.41wobin...
10:55.44wobinrostrum?
10:56.11wobinI bet that tickles =P
10:56.40nee|work:)
10:57.29Adirelle|workwobin: rostrum ~= snout
10:57.40wobin=)
10:57.46wobinYou're not thinking gutter enough =)
10:57.53nee|workIndeed. Don't confuse it with rectum :)
10:58.11NightHawkTheSanewobins version was funnier
10:58.17nee|workhttp://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/gallery/descript/STSawfish/rostrum.JPG :)
10:58.28Adirelle|work(btw I meant ~= for like, not for 'different')
10:58.58wobindamn lua
10:59.07wobinruins me for life =P
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10:59.47Punkie`filtrum is by far a cooler word
11:01.03Adirelle|workwhere did the topic start to derive ?
11:01.08Adirelle|work(or when)
11:01.09Adirelle|work:p
11:01.59NightHawkTheSanecats falling out of windows
11:02.18NightHawkTheSanewell, actually, no.. photocopying cats, to be sure
11:02.23nee|work:)
11:02.34wobinno no
11:02.35wobincatscanning
11:02.44NightHawkTheSanehaha
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11:06.19Fisker-looks like that "manfish" nee|work :P
11:12.31nee|workI've never heard of man-fish
11:12.47nee|workAh, it's a science fiction movie
11:13.00nee|workhttp://www.ifilm.com/video/2746707
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11:15.25Tekkubugh that guy creeps me out
11:15.32Tekkubhe breathes thru his mouth
11:15.35Tekkubloudly
11:15.37Tekkuball the time
11:15.41Tekkubit's not right
11:20.13Fisker-nee|work it was some russians who catched a fish which acted like a man
11:20.19Fisker-so they thought it was some kind of mutant
11:20.29Fisker-but it looks exactly like the fish or whatever you posted :P
11:21.21nee|workFisker-: It humped legs, belched loudly and had no consideration for anyone else? :P
11:21.32nee|workoki
11:21.44nee|workMutants are interesting, though I'd rather see the Marvel kind.
11:21.56Fisker-:P
11:22.33NightHawkTheSanenee|work: now hey, i resent that. i havnt humped a leg in.. what, 5 or 10 minutes now.
11:24.28nee|work:)
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11:26.39wobinokay
11:26.44wobinthat's just freaky
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11:29.55nee|workWhat is freaky?
11:32.23xyuSiamese twins?
11:34.16nee|workHm. I am glad I am not a siamese twin.
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11:36.10GnarfozSiamese twinks are freakier
11:38.12yacoobhm.
11:38.19yacoobChinesee develops rc pigeons.
11:38.28yacoobNow this is a great way of bombing someone :)
11:38.52odtdo these rc pigeons actually flap their wings to stay airborne?
11:39.21wobinrc?
11:39.24wobinremote control?
11:39.29odtradio controlled i think
11:39.35xyu^
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11:46.28Tekkub"Required Computer Skills: Demonstrated knowledge in DOS, Windows 3.1, Windows 95..."
11:46.38Tekkubwhy the FUCK would I need that for a job?
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11:46.57[Ammo]because they still use that stuff?
11:47.03[Ammo]and require you to be familiar with it
11:47.05isildorwork had this piece of software that says Req's Windows 98 or better
11:47.06Tekkub"Hi, we use a 15yo OS,
11:47.12[Ammo]there are people who do
11:47.15isildorbut they didn't understand when I asked them why it didn't run on Fbsd
11:47.15[Ammo]you'd be amazed
11:47.17NightHawkTheSaneTekkub: it happens. i've seen worse
11:47.19Tekkubfucktards
11:47.30TekkubI don't want to work for that company
11:47.33nee|work:)
11:47.48nee|workI'm working with software from '92
11:47.53Tekkubhi, welcome to this millenium
11:47.54nee|workevery day
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11:47.59NightHawkTheSanemost companies seem to operate under the theory of "if it still works fine, dont spend money on it"
11:48.06nee|workIndeed :)
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11:48.27nee|workUntil too much info has to be processed or people want a certain function..
11:48.28NightHawkTheSaneactually, most companies just tend to prefer "dont spend money" but, that's another topic. >.>
11:48.34JensI once worked for a company that had a backup server running some nix variant (forgot) that was totally outdated, sitting with a direct internet connection. The best part... its root password was "root".
11:48.38nee|workThen they have to call someone in to help/switch to a new system
11:48.47Tekkubdon't matter, they want certs and shit
11:48.58nee|workJens: I bet few people try that pass though :P
11:48.58TekkubI'm sure 3 years of real college don't count there
11:49.35JensOther random servers running NT4 had blank admin passwords, and users would use them to do work (w. admin access) of course.
11:49.42nee|workTekkub: Hm. I'm used to companies mainly wanting to know what you have done/what yuo have experience with, instead of requesting papers
11:49.48Tekkubwhy the hell am I even lookign at tech jobs?
11:50.03nee|workJens: Oh, we have that here at work. Blank passes to get access.
11:50.06JensI got fed up with tech business.
11:50.16TekkubI have 2 years active programming experience
11:50.20Tekkub... in lua Z)
11:50.22Tekkub:)
11:50.29nymbiait counts! ;)
11:50.30NightHawkTheSanemeh, one language is the same as any other
11:50.36TekkubJens, me too...
11:50.52TekkubI'm sure I've made it clear here that if I did this for a living I'd hate myself
11:51.00Tekkubcause it'd make my hobby into work
11:51.01nee|workYou can say you are good at analyzing current working systems, or have a good grasp of logic?
11:51.01JensWent in another direction. Electrician. The knowledge that you might kill yourself if you fuck shit up bad enough keeps you on your toes.
11:51.07Tekkuband make me hate my hobby
11:51.19nee|workJens: I can imagine :)
11:51.23krkaTekkub: you've only used Lua?
11:51.25NightHawkTheSane.. I -do- do this for a living. >.> but I actually like it
11:51.34Tekkuberm... I don't think I could do electiricain even though I already know a lot of it
11:51.43JensWhy not?
11:51.46TekkubI was raised by an electrician :)
11:51.51JensI see :)
11:51.53TekkubI fear car batteries :)
11:52.01JensAnd you should :D
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11:52.08Tekkubsee someone that understands!
11:52.18Tekkubmost people think I'm stupid
11:52.40JensMost people don't grasp the number of amps those things can put out.
11:52.41krkai for one welcome our car battery overlords
11:52.43bindipretty scared of em too ::|
11:52.48TekkubI say to them, no, I'm too smart for my own mental health
11:53.00nee|workI don't have a car and can't drive. I cycle :)
11:53.14Tekkubyea, most people say "it's only 12 (or is it 10?) volts
11:53.16krkai hate it when people say amps / volts / watts when they mean current / voltage / effect
11:53.17break19Tekkub: I remember my father working under the hood one night when I was kid, and rushed into the house with a look of pure pain.
11:53.41break19Tekkub: he turned on the water, stuck his hand under it, and steam rose..
11:54.07TekkubI remember my dad partially welding his wrinch to the battery terminal
11:54.18JensI've heard electricians with 40 years experience mix up volts and amps often :)
11:54.23Tekkubthat was the last time I let him work on my mom's car
11:54.27break19Tekkub: it seems, that while using the wrench to tighten something, it slipped, and hit the + term of the battery, WHILE touching his wedding ring
11:54.30wobinbreak19: ><
11:54.39Tekkubheh
11:54.42break19the ring turned bright red, and nearly burned off his finger
11:54.55Tekkubmy dad just left the wrench too close to the batt, he wasn't using it
11:55.16Tekkuband it blew the fusable link before anything was damaged
11:55.30nee|workJens: I think that's because they are not used to explaining what they do to others. They do what they do well though :)
11:55.37Tekkubwhich he replaced with a wire and two spade ends...
11:55.47Tekkubtill I went and paid like $15 for a new one :P
11:55.59JensNah, it's because danish is a little weird.
11:56.07nee|workAh.
11:56.09Tekkub"Oh yea that wire's thin enough it'll melt before any damage is done"
11:56.17break19my father was using it at the time.. he had 3/4" burn down into his skin under his wedding ring, the hospital had to cut the ring off because if they'd tried to remove it normally, it would have pulled off the skin of his finger.
11:56.23JensMost people say "strøm" (current) when they actually mean voltage.
11:56.34Jens"Strøm" is also generally used to mean electricity.
11:56.47TekkubJens... øffe!
11:57.07Jens...
11:57.16break19needless to say, he removes his ring to work on the vehicles now. heh
11:57.24nee|workJens: In Dutch it's 'stroom'
11:57.25nee|work:)
11:57.34break19me, I'm OCD.. I wear mechanic's gloves. :P
11:57.36JensDutch is bizarre.
11:57.46nee|workJens: So is Danish :)
11:57.54break19<- can't stand his hands being dirty
11:58.10nee|workI prefer clean hands as well.
11:58.18nee|workI especially mind the scent of oranges on my hands
11:58.20nee|work:
11:58.21Tekkub$28-$45/hr d.o.e.
11:58.25JensPfft... if your hands aren't dirty at the end of the day, you haven't done any real work.
11:58.27krkaif you confuse current and voltage, you shouldn't be doing anything with electricity
11:58.36Tekkubbut I don't really know C# or .NET, or MPEG...
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11:58.45TekkubI do (slightly) know C++
11:59.01break19nee|work: this is beyond prefer... I played US football as a kid, when I'd get knocked down, the first thing Id do when I got up, was subconsciously wipe my hands off, wouldnt care about any other grass/dirt anywhere else.
11:59.59break19I keep moist towelettes in the truck with me at *all* times..
12:00.08nee|workbreak19: Ah okay. Indeed for me it's just a strong preference.
12:00.35break19I have to constantly catch myself reaching for them during the day, and I've almost broken the habit.
12:01.07nee|work:)
12:01.11break19I use them when I leave a particular worksite, but it used to be, I'd grab one every time I got back in the truck over the course of the hour or so I'd spend at each site, unloading.
12:02.09break19nee|work: it's not that hard for me to break tho.. I am also a real cheap-ass..  and it was getting expensive using all those towelettes :)
12:02.47break19but im late for work.. *wave*
12:02.50nee|workhehe
12:02.54nee|workHave a nice day ;)
12:03.00break19ty *poof*
12:05.56CIA-18ow
12:06.15nevcairielyeah its broken again
12:06.25wobinoh man, Kergoth. The whole "Flash screen when switching modes" is going to drive me batty in vim =)
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12:10.09nymbiasounds painful
12:10.17yacoobwobin, it's property of the terminal, I think.
12:11.01MoonWolfhey, stop abusing CIA-18
12:11.14Tekkubsomeone tell me I'm reading this wrong....
12:11.15Tekkub"Compensation: DOE/Eligible the 1st day of the month, following 90- days of employment."
12:11.24TekkubWe'll pay you after 90 days...
12:11.26nymbia~pummel CIA-18
12:11.39MoonWolfthats..... is that even legal ?
12:11.51wobinO.O
12:11.54nymbiathat's harsh Tekkub
12:12.00Tekkubso I'm not reading it wrong?
12:12.00wobinthat's not even...
12:12.07wobinjeez, the money had better be good
12:12.08MoonWolfreads like that to me.
12:12.17Tekkubbenefits after 90 I can understand
12:12.21Tekkubbut they don't say that
12:12.21wobinwell no
12:12.24MoonWolfsure
12:12.26wobinyou're not reading it right
12:12.29MoonWolfbut paychecks....
12:12.37krkawhat is DOE?
12:12.46Tekkubdepends on experience
12:13.02wobinIt's "You'll get paid after 90 days on the 1st of the following month."
12:13.13wobinSo it could be up to 120 days
12:13.22MoonWolfwait it could also be
12:13.23MoonWolfA reimbursement plan designed to cover business expenses during the total or partial disability of a professional or business person.
12:13.28MoonWolfaccording to google.
12:13.38wobinah
12:13.41wobinso it is benefits
12:13.49wobinreimbursement for spending etc etc
12:14.19MoonWolfDisability Overhead Expense (DOE)
12:14.35Tekkubwell reading want ads I usually read DOE as "Pay DOE" i.e. "Pay depends on experience"
12:14.39MoonWolfbetter check that stuff though if you want to apply
12:14.53TekkubI don't want to, I just thought that read bad
12:15.01MoonWolfits anything but clear.
12:15.10Tekkubnot like the people that post jobs on craigslist are all that literate sometimes
12:15.26MoonWolfits hailing outside.
12:15.29wobinwaait... what 'business' expenses are given during the partial disability of a person?
12:15.30Tekkubwhen you post jobs like an eBay noob, I don't feel too confident in working for you
12:15.44wobinSort of money spent making the workplace wheelchair accessible or something?
12:16.01MoonWolfno clue
12:16.04wobinA+++ Would Hire Again
12:16.15nevcairiellol
12:16.34nevcairielive read those .. always better to skip :)
12:18.00MoonWolfimagine an ebay for jobs and employees
12:18.20wobin><
12:18.23wobinwho's bidding?
12:18.29nee|worklol.
12:18.30wobinsalary bids?
12:18.37MoonWolfpeople getting pissed off because an ex employee is giving it bad ratings.
12:19.03Tekkubokey time for a really dumbe question
12:19.09NightHawkTheSaneMoonWolf: the free market is relatively close to that already, but without the facade of credibility
12:19.11Tekkubhow long has Ruby on Rails been around?
12:19.34MoonWolfNightHawkTheSane, :P
12:19.39NightHawkTheSanea few years i think?
12:19.43nee|work'Ruby on Rails is a web application framework released in 2004'
12:19.44wobinTekkub: About a year or two?
12:19.46MoonWolf4 years or so....
12:19.49nee|workhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails
12:19.51Tekkubokey
12:20.00NightHawkTheSanelol
12:20.02wobinnee|work: Your wikipediaspeed is ... scary
12:20.03Tekkub2-4 years of Ruby on Rails experience.
12:20.08Tekkubmorons :)
12:20.12xlviitekkub, just remembered to look at those pictures
12:20.19xlviithey are quite arty, and cool.
12:20.24Tekkubthe cat?
12:20.30Adirelle|workwobin: ff seach plugin :D
12:20.31NightHawkTheSanenee|work: http://xkcd.com/c214.html I think you'd appreciate that
12:20.37xlviitekkub, yes.
12:21.07nee|workNightHawkTheSane: hehe. Indeed I enjoy that webcomic :)
12:21.15NightHawkTheSanewho doesn't :)
12:21.33Adirelle|workI'm subject to this trouble too
12:21.36nee|workI really liked: http://xkcd.com/c162.html
12:22.18NightHawkTheSaneyeah, as well as this one http://xkcd.com/c150.html
12:22.18Adirelle|workeach time I search something in a well-provided wiki/encyclopedia, I finish reading things completely off topic
12:22.20MoonWolftekkub, people who are hiring will gladly ask for 4 years of (productname x) 2005 experience.
12:22.32Tekkubyea I know
12:22.48Tekkuband pointing out their stupidity gets you filed in file 13 doesn't it?
12:22.55MoonWolfoh yeah
12:23.05nymbiahaha
12:23.05MoonWolfcan't point out errors in their work.
12:23.35Adirelle|work(what's "file 13" ?)
12:23.38nee|workNightHawkTheSane: hehe, yea ;)
12:23.50Elkanowell, you could have "4 years of (productname x) 2005 experience" but then they should ask why you left the company developing that application
12:24.02nymbiaAdirelle|work: the trash can ;)
12:24.25Adirelle|work:)
12:24.45NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_13
12:24.47NightHawkTheSane:)
12:24.57_neuron_is Cartographer_Waypoints spitting out a million errors about GuildPoint for everyone else?
12:25.09Tekkubmaybe I should take up CAD/Drafting
12:25.15Tekkubseem to be lots of jobs for that
12:25.23Tekkuband I've done my share of both
12:25.28NightHawkTheSane... what fascinates me is that wikipedia has an entry for Trash Can
12:25.34wobin_neuron_: It shouldn't anymore since the toc was updated
12:25.40NightHawkTheSaneand pictures.. of trash can.
12:25.42Tekkubeven had a GIS/Mapping job, which is the same damn thing just with maps
12:25.43NightHawkTheSanecans
12:25.56_neuron_wobin, doesn't seem to be related to the toc, hangon I'll give you the backtrace
12:26.03wobinTekkub: Why not? It's fiddly work, but if there's the market for it...
12:26.32Tekkubyea and it's something I do know how to do
12:26.38_neuron_wobin, http://ace.pastey.net/7358
12:26.42Tekkubfuck back in HS we had real drafting tables
12:26.53wobinditto
12:27.10wobin_neuron_: Check your Cartographer.toc
12:27.21wobinif there's a guildpoint reference, then there's a problem
12:27.23Tekkubin college, an Engineering school none the less, their "everyone must take" drafting was done on that green one-side grid paper with rulers
12:27.26wobinif there's not, you need to update
12:27.45wobinTekkub: Well, that's not a bad thing
12:27.45Tekkubit was sad that I got better drafting from a backwoods HS than an expensive college
12:27.52_neuron_wobin, Cartographer_GuildPositions\GuildPositions.lua, that's everything in Cartographer.toc
12:28.00_neuron_I should be on the latest version though.. from files.wowace.com anyway
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12:28.33Adirelle|work~seen Mok
12:28.54purlmok <n=chatzill@dslb-084-058-189-185.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 31m 49s ago, saying: 'i think range checking is an extra addon, not sure though'.
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12:29.20wobin_neuron_: What revision number have you?
12:29.59_neuron_changelog-r29123.txt
12:30.16wobinIt's about 29183 by now
12:30.28_neuron_wtf... why isn't my updater picking that up
12:30.35wobinon the svn mind you
12:30.37_neuron_I just noticed, sorry about that
12:31.31wobin29199 is what's on http://files.wowace.com
12:31.45_neuron_yeah, my updater should have grabbed that one, not quite sure why it isn't
12:31.59_neuron_the changelogs are still auto updated and working right?
12:32.38wobinShould do
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12:35.29wobinjesus christ
12:35.35wobinI'm getting 30fps
12:35.38wobinwtf?
12:35.53[Ammo]vertical sync
12:35.55wobin54 in quiet places
12:35.58[Ammo]oh not
12:36.10NightHawkTheSaneer... is that good or bad? o_0
12:36.12wobin[Ammo]: A good day for me is normally 10fps
12:36.30wobinI'm wondering what the hell I did to make this hapepn
12:37.31NightHawkTheSanewobin: if you figure it out, telll me :P
12:37.44nymbiahaha
12:38.10wobingranted, I'm on my testchar
12:38.13NightHawkTheSanealthough, i've been managing ~20 fps even when raiding the past few days, which is pretty good for me so *shrug*
12:38.15wobinso there's nothing running on him
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12:38.45NightHawkTheSanewobin: lol, well there you go, its all those evil ace mods. ;)
12:38.53cncfanaticsGood afternoon everyone :)
12:39.25wobinDamn Ace
12:39.29NightHawkTheSanemorning
12:39.33wobinevening
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12:41.44JoshBorkemsolglu ,sngl
12:41.46JoshBorkemorning wobin
12:48.55wobinhttp://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wheresmycowxd9.png
12:48.58wobinThere we go =)
12:49.03wobinIt's a start at least =P
12:49.39NightHawkTheSaneif I had any idea what I was looking at, I think I'd be impressed
12:49.48nymbiasecure pie!
12:49.54wobinIt's my frame debugging addon
12:50.19nevcairieli look forward to the push and pop functionality in 2.1.0 for states. i bet i can use it .. somehow :D
12:50.32wobinmodifier-mouseover a registered frame, and it'll show either basic info about the frame, or specific lines you choose
12:50.51wobinI'll have to work on cycling through framestacks
12:50.59JoshBorkewhat's this push and pop stuff?
12:51.08nymbiaoh wow, hadnt looked at the 2.1 thread in a while
12:51.41nymbiabadass.
12:51.59wobinThe SecureStateHeaderTemplate now supports a small stack of saved states that can be used in state transition rules via push/pop/swap actions
12:52.02nevcairielJoshBorke: i am not 100% sure yet, since the documentation is in the .lua files, which we cannot access yet :) but it sounds like you can "save" a state, and get it back.
12:52.11wobinThat... that will make Splut so much easier =)
12:52.13nymbia" New TOC field: LoadManagers " <3
12:52.13wobinwell, probably
12:52.16NightHawkTheSanecpu profiling? huh
12:52.22nevcairielLoadManagers is great
12:52.29JoshBorkehm
12:52.37nevcairielwonder if tekkubs supply&demand is still around
12:52.45wobinoh man, hasComparison for tooltips
12:53.05wobinactually
12:53.11wobinI have no idea what that means =P
12:53.16nevcairielhehe
12:53.21nymbialol
12:53.22nevcairieli wonderd the same thing :P
12:54.13nymbiaaddon CPU usage, though.  nice.
12:54.31JoshBorkewow, addon CPU usage
12:54.48wobinIt's still souplike
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12:55.02wobinbut you're dumping the crackers into the soup while they're still in their foil packaging
12:55.07wobinalthough that packaging leaks a bit
12:55.13JoshBorkethe hasComparison sounds like something for tekKompare
12:55.14wobinSo you can get soggy crackers
12:55.55wobinAlthough Ace libraries will make everyone cry
12:56.01wobinsince it's all shared memory =P
12:56.11wobinand it'll make ace addons look huge
12:56.12nevcairielstandalones for better profiling
12:56.16nevcairiel:)
12:56.19JoshBorkei already cry
12:56.24nevcairielwobin at least one addon will be huge :P
12:56.26wobinnevcairiel: I don't think that'll help
12:56.30nevcairielall other will be nice and small
12:56.45wobinnah, since they have references to the libraries and stuff, it'll be included, probably?
12:56.47JoshBorkei tihnk it'll be a better utility for developers
12:56.50Azurewrathhaha.. http://www.nerdcore.de/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/pro_vs_noob.jpg
12:56.57wobinJoshBorke: Ha
12:57.06nymbia* NEW - time, count = GetFunctionCPUUsage(function[, includeSubroutines])
12:57.06nevcairielwell, with standalones, at least you can see where the load comes from, either your addon, or the libs
12:57.07JoshBorkeusers will just misuse it
12:57.08nee|workAzurewrath: hehe
12:57.16wobinJoshBorke: I bet you five dollars, that within 3 minutes of someone writing a profiling addon, there'll be complaints =P
12:57.43JoshBorkethere are complaints now :-P
12:57.54wobinNow there'll be numbers =)
12:57.58NightHawkTheSanewobin: I'll bet you five dollars that within 3 minutes of someone logging in and looking at the default memory usage ui, there'll be complaints
12:58.05nevcairielheh
12:58.15nevcairieli wonder when 2.1.0 will be ready
12:58.22ThraeWhoMod is the worst performer by far.
12:58.25nevcairieldid anyone hear what content-wise is changing?
12:58.27NightHawkTheSanehell, i bet there are ALREADY complaints about what addons WILL show up as huge memory hogs
12:58.39wobink, now, Josh, bet NightHawk 5 dollars that within 3 minutes of someone logging in, someone will do something stupid
12:58.43nymbianevcairiel: black temple
12:58.45wobinand we can cycle the 5 dollars =)
12:58.52NightHawkTheSanewobin: lol
12:58.53nevcairielnymbia: sure its in 2.1.0 already?
12:58.58nymbianevcairiel: yeah
12:59.00nymbianevcairiel: sec
12:59.29ZealotOnAStick2.1.0, maaaaaybe.  It's just listed as "Under Development" right now.
12:59.32JoshBorkei bet within 3 minutes of 2.1.0 being released someone will cancel their account
12:59.34nymbianevcairiel: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/
12:59.42JoshBorkeThrae: HOW DARE YOU!  WhoMod is PERFECT :-P
12:59.51nymbiawhats a WhoMod?
13:00.02wobinThe Grinch?
13:00.07nevcairielJoshBorke: that happens with every patch, no matter how minor, look at 2.0.10 :P
13:00.11krkanot sure i want to know how much memory FAIAP uses
13:00.22krkaand i am very thankful this didn't exist when AutoTravel was alive =)
13:00.27wobinkrka: Some things man is better off not knowing
13:00.29nymbialol krka
13:00.49wobinkrka: People who used Autotravel probably wouldn't be worried overmuch about memory usage =P
13:01.19krkathey'd still go like "can't you compress the data points with zlib or something?"
13:01.22krka:/
13:01.37wobinI don't want to know how much memory HeyFu takes
13:02.30nevcairielthat depends on how long its been running, i guess :)
13:02.42wobinAnd if they haven't checked 'autopurge'
13:02.55wobineven though all the data saved beyond a week is unattainable
13:02.59wobinso far =P
13:03.09nevcairielhah
13:03.12nevcairielauto-purge it
13:03.13nevcairiel:)
13:03.17nymbiawhat'll be funny to see is the memory usage of stuff like SW_Stats
13:03.25wobinI keep intending to write an archive lod mod
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13:03.41NightHawkTheSaneswstats has a warning when your data gets big though, doesnt it?
13:03.56nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: to the tune of like 15 megs..
13:04.05wobinbut actually, irt heyfu, I may as well autopurge automatically
13:04.17wobinsince I really have no intention of writing an archive mod =P
13:04.22NightHawkTheSanenymbia: is it? wow. when I used it i religiously pruned my data, so
13:04.29nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: it warns when you get over 500 combatants in storage, iirc.  you can fit a lot of combat data in 500 combatants.
13:05.12nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: but i havent touched it ina while so i might be a bit off.
13:05.31wobinPS Tekkub: I'm really liking Dongle
13:05.40Tekkub^^
13:05.47wobinUsing it in Where's My Cow
13:05.54Tekkubbe quite or you'll wake the drama lhamas
13:05.58wobinfeh
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13:06.12nymbiaOMFG DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!
13:06.15nevcairieli wanted to try dongle in one of my minor mods
13:06.17nevcairiellike hotcandy
13:06.25nymbia(was that good enough?)
13:06.30JoshBorkenevcairiel: how dare you!
13:06.32wobinnot enough 1's
13:07.21wobinIf I can keep memory usage down for WMC, I'll be happy
13:07.38wobinand tbh, the structure is too simplistic to be worthwhile using AceOO
13:07.44nevcairielbut i use CandyBar for the bars .. and its an Ace lib .. soo
13:08.32wobinAlthough at the moment, I'm not sure how I'm going to implement WMC
13:09.05wobinSo far, you call WheresMyCow:RegisterAddon("AddonName")
13:09.25wobinand then in various places Cow:RegisterFrame(frame)
13:09.42wobinSo it's interspersed all through your code...
13:09.45nevcairielcant you just check for every frame which is under my cursor, see if it inherits a secure frame template, and display all the relevant state stuff?
13:09.51wobinit's not very debug friendly
13:10.05wobinnevcairiel: well it's not just for secureframes
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13:10.12wobinbut I can offer that as the default info
13:10.23wobinand I'd only want it to show info on frames you specify
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13:11.22wobinThat way it's less intensive on the system
13:11.35wobinIt doesn't have to enumerate all the frames every Update
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13:11.47wobinJust the subset registered
13:12.05nevcairielits a debugging addon, screw performance :P
13:12.13wobin=P
13:12.17nee|workand off home. *poof*
13:12.32wobinI wouldn't be able to do that to myself =P
13:13.01wobinIf it's not as efficient as I can make it, I'm not done yet =P
13:13.23wobin(except when it gets overcomplex, like MrPlow, then it's all vhaarr's)
13:13.28nymbialol
13:14.16wobinanyway, bedtime!
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13:14.19wobinnight all
13:14.23JoshBorkenn wobin
13:14.29Ordogmorning!
13:14.38JoshBorkemorning Ordog
13:14.41Ordogat 2pm :)
13:14.51wobin~ugt
13:15.01purlhmm... ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
13:15.01nymbiaOrdog: nope, evening.
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13:32.55hasteI play a warlock and a rogue
13:33.03hasteoh hey, scrolled up :D
13:33.17hastepretty far also :3
13:33.20nymbiawarlocks smell funny.
13:33.33hasteIt was during the "people hate my class" disucssion this morning
13:33.42nymbiahaha
13:33.59hasteI was going to continue with "imagen the hate I get :D"
13:34.10hasteGuess I failed rather hard instead :(
13:34.12nymbiawell your classes hate each other so
13:34.52nymbia...something
13:35.08hastesomething something something!
13:35.21nymbiaexactly.
13:35.54nymbiascrew cloak of shadows, crippling poison's dispel resist is OP ;)
13:36.21nevcairielscrew your cripling!
13:36.24nymbialol
13:36.34nymbiaa shaman in my guild tested it
13:36.42nymbia26 of 30 dispel attempts failed.
13:36.46nevcairieli know
13:36.48nevcairielit sucks
13:37.06hasteyou forgot the 30% chance to not die on a killing blow
13:37.18nymbiameh
13:37.26nymbiaif i'm shooting a rogue, he's screwed regardless
13:37.28hasteand a lot of other annoying stuff depending on spec )
13:37.59hasteI dueled a warlock in the guild before TBC, with the cheat death talent
13:38.11nymbiai've been having very little trouble with most rogues, as long as escape artist or blazing speed manage to actually knock off crippling.
13:38.19hastehe did the usual seduce nuke with destruction, too bad it was absorbed :)
13:38.26nymbiahaha
13:44.08neeneeHello again
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13:49.35HjalteThrae, I was wondering, what does the numbers mean behind the aggro messages in Vitalwatch?
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14:00.29ThraeHjalte: BanzaiLib's internal aggro modifier.
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14:01.06HjalteThrae: Umm, meaning what?
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14:01.08ThraeHjalte: Basically, a larger number is good, as that means more people are targeting the aggro'd mob.
14:01.58HjalteAh, I see. Thanks.
14:02.42HjalteOh, and last time i tried, the sound notifications for aggro did not work. Yelled an error while in raid/party.
14:04.37ThraeHjalte: I'm going to re-write VitalWatch, I'll look at it then...
14:04.37HjalteOkay :) Would also be nice to be able to turn sounds on without the text message following. Can get spammy on the screen.
14:04.37hugohi
14:04.37hugoanyone know how can i make in macro /cast Seal of Righteousness to cast only if the seal is not active on me ? thanks
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14:10.46neeneeCan macros check if a buff exists?
14:13.04[Ammo]no, but you can make a macro reset after x seconds
14:13.18[Ammo]it's a midway solution
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14:24.10neeneeoki
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14:34.58HjalteOverloadUT: Hey, I saw you talking of some sort of addon in here last night that would use macros to get some advanced targeting abilities with actionbar buttons - Do you remember what addon that was?
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14:37.28OverloadUTSure do, it's called "Macrotexter" http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6909
14:37.51OverloadUTUnfortunately it only works with teh Blizzard action bars right now, but he says the next versions will support BT3, Bongos, CogsBar in that order
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14:39.14HealthI like that assist/heal target's target.
14:40.53OverloadUTYeah, I really like the idea of it. As soon as it supports Bongos I'll be all over it
14:41.08HjalteOverloadUT: By the way, it seems you left some debug messages on in your latest questobjectives build on wowace.com/files :)
14:41.15OverloadUTOhhhhh crap!
14:41.25OverloadUTOh man it'll be spammy :P
14:42.00de|kipsb here who knows well about carthographer / carthographer_scribe?
14:43.07nevcairielCIA is borked today
14:43.17OverloadUTHjalte: I just committed a new version - not sure why CIA isn't reporting it./
14:44.22OverloadUTOr it could be what nevcairiel said right before me. :P
14:48.39hugo[Ammo] well i can't cause the macro is cast judgement, and then cast seal, so the duration is _random_ so macro can't check if buff exist ? :X
14:49.08nevcairielno macros cannot do that
14:49.39hugo:|
14:50.23cncfanaticsOverloadUT, mind supporting flexbar2 too ?
14:50.27cncfanaticsits nearly ready
14:50.51OverloadUTO.o? If you're talking about Macrotexter, that's not my addon
14:51.45OverloadUTAnybody know why I can't seem to upload a new mod to WoWInterface?
14:52.46neeneeNope. Try contacting someone from WoWInterface though :)
14:53.09OverloadUTOhhhh Cairenn|afk ;)
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14:56.22neeneeI'm normally not a praying man. But if you're out there now, superman...
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15:00.59OverloadUTGah I can't even upload to Curse, and it's the same problem. How bizarre
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15:01.47nevcairielLocal problem, i bet.
15:01.55nevcairielI uploaded to curse and WoWI like an hour ago
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15:04.07nevcairielhmm the new RatingBuster is great, now shows the crit you get for agility
15:04.40ilifinreally?
15:04.45ilifinI've been wanting someone to make that
15:05.06Healthrefering to what now?
15:05.37ilifintranslation of stats into percentages
15:05.53nevcairielit only does crit and spellcrit
15:05.57nevcairielas far as i can see
15:06.16Healthrating buster?
15:06.32nevcairielyea
15:06.35Healthhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5819-Rating_Buster.html
15:06.50HealthDoes more than crit.
15:07.32nevcairielfor the ratings yeah
15:07.36nevcairielbut for the plain stats
15:07.40nevcairielonly crit and spell crit
15:07.43nevcairielfrom agi or int
15:07.49HealthI see
15:08.12nevcairielaltho thats all i care about :P
15:09.05nevcairieli wanted to create a simple addon, that takes all stats into one small extra tooltip, like +30 sta +30 int +50 spell damage .. summarizing sockets and enchants
15:09.12Nickenyfikenhmm feels like i have 10 tooltip addons or so :-P
15:09.13nevcairielbut i never got around to it
15:09.57nevcairielItemBonuses can scan sockets and stuff, cant it?
15:10.04Nickenyfikeni want something like Pawn but with easier config
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15:14.54knarf^nevcairiel yes it can
15:15.08nevcairielperfect
15:15.17knarf^you can just do /ibonus detail [item] and it tells you the stats :>
15:15.32knarf^ItemBonusLib
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15:15.50ilifinnot a valid option for ibonus!
15:15.52nevcairielyeah i have been reading the Wiki
15:16.00nevcairielsounds perfect
15:16.32knarf^you can just do /ibonus details [item] and it tells you the stats :> happy now ilifin ? :E
15:16.55Punkie`isn't tekkub looking to make a less intensive version of rating buster?
15:17.04nevcairielhe is working on it
15:17.05nevcairieli think
15:18.11Tekkubactually if RB just cached it's strings it'd be a lot less icky
15:18.42Tekkubhis parsing method ain't that pretty, but caching the new strings would eliminate most of that overhead
15:19.10krkawhat parsing method is it using?
15:19.15Tekkubif Blue was more consistant with the tooltip texts it'd be a lot cleaner in the first place
15:19.48Tekkubbreak it up into words, store that in a table, pick out the number, calculate, shove that into table, concat table together
15:20.29OverloadUTEverybody go click the little plus sign: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/6615/cartographer-quest-objectives/
15:20.29OverloadUT:P
15:20.36krkai see
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15:21.01nevcairielwhile you are at it, click it on bt3 as well, but hey i dont really care :P
15:21.16knarf^OverloadUT nothing happens
15:21.17knarf^:>
15:21.24OverloadUTHey people actually did it :P
15:21.32OverloadUTNow to upload screenshots
15:21.41nevcairieli didnt read one file comment on curse
15:21.46nevcairieland still no one complaint directly.
15:21.48OverloadUTI'd really like to get iton WoWInterface but I need Cairenn|afk's help because I think it's broken
15:22.11Tekkubno you're broken
15:22.33OverloadUTWell in a way. I think my user account is broken. ;)
15:22.37JJSheetslol
15:23.01nevcairieli feel like improving HotCandy
15:23.04nevcairielbut i dont have any ideas.
15:23.21HealthWhat was wrong with CandyBar? :(
15:23.23Healths
15:23.34knarf^I feel like making the mod I posted, but on the other hand I feel like playing too :>
15:23.40HealthOne could think it was a bar mod?
15:23.56nevcairielwhat should be wrong with CandyBars?
15:24.11[Ammo]nothing I hope
15:24.51nevcairielworks fine for HotCandy and BigWigs .. only addon i know which use it actually
15:24.56nevcairiel*addons
15:25.01[Ammo]oRA2 uses it :p
15:25.06[Ammo]Chronometer
15:25.09[Ammo]oCD
15:25.14[Ammo]and there's some others :)
15:25.18nevcairieloh ora right, for that weird cooldown count
15:25.36[Ammo]and the 30 second ready check counter :)
15:25.42[Ammo]and the cooldown ain't weird
15:25.45[Ammo]grrr
15:25.55nevcairielway to much information imho
15:26.08[Ammo]you can toggle it off
15:26.12[Ammo]and not be bothered with it
15:26.19nevcairieli prefer having my raidframe reading the information, and showing it in the tooltip of that unit
15:26.22nevcairielyea so i did
15:26.30[Ammo]I like seeing it at a glance
15:26.40[Ammo]I don't want to hover all my druids when we need a combat res
15:26.52nevcairielin fact, i dont care about the cooldowns at all
15:27.25nevcairielbeing a druid myself, i generally remember who has rezz cooldown
15:27.31knarf^<3 ora
15:27.43[Ammo]hehe
15:27.53[Ammo]well I like seeing which locks used their soulstone
15:27.58[Ammo]and what druids have their combatres on cooldown
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15:28.07knarf^does it show innervates?
15:28.09knarf^can't remember :P
15:28.14nevcairieli dont think so
15:28.21nevcairielits not in the CTRA protocol
15:28.27nevcairieland no custom oRA msgs yet
15:28.32[Ammo]there are custom ora msgs
15:28.34knarf^I seem to recall being annoyed it not showing innervates :P
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15:28.38[Ammo]divine intervention :p
15:28.41nevcairieloh
15:28.46[Ammo]but I'm not adding innervate
15:29.01[Ammo]it's not vital, it's not about resurrection/wipe prot
15:29.11[Ammo]it's about enlarging the epeen of a manauser
15:29.42nevcairielstarting with BC, i use my innervate on myself most of the time .. dunno .. but priests dont scream like they did before :)
15:29.42knarf^:P
15:30.05kenlyricgive us a good 10 minute fight again, and we will :)
15:30.12knarf^well i just find it nice to know if there is a backup innervate :P
15:30.42nevcairiellast time when we fought nightbane, i came out of the fight with 50% mana, and didnt use innervate
15:30.48nevcairielflask of mighty restoration ftw
15:30.54Azurewrathi guess it's since more Priests use bigger heals nowadays.. spaming Flash Heal is pricey ;)
15:31.07knarf^blessing of whatsoever ftw
15:31.13knarf^the mana regen one :P
15:31.15vodrinand spirit is overpriced now ;p
15:31.40knarf^Azurewrath meh i've allways used gheal :)
15:31.46Azurewrathjup, the imba pala buff too.. our highest one is only 68 though :(
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15:32.04knarf^our pala got 70 before some of the 60s got to 70 :P
15:32.13nevcairieli dunno how bad it is with priests and downranking, but as a druid i didnt notice many cuts on low-rank heals. so it still works pretty good
15:32.32knarf^nevcairiel ye I can't see the big probs in downranking, i'm not doing it though
15:32.33knarf^:)
15:32.36kenlyricuh, downranking is completely useless to a priest, apart from avoiding overhealing.
15:32.49ilifinwe got some genius paladins on my server using tier 1 on level 70 and level 50-ish ranks of flash of light
15:32.55kenlyricthe mana efficiency of rank 1 and rank 7 gheal is within .2 mph.
15:32.55ilifingotta love teaming with them :p
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15:33.20kenlyricand regular heal is about 1 mph less than gheal.
15:33.20nevcairieldepends on the fight for me
15:33.37nevcairielon short fights, i go tree and HoT the world
15:33.38nevcairiel:)
15:33.44nevcairielbut on long fights, thats too expensive
15:34.12kenlyricif you downrank to half the healing, you essentially cast the spell twice as often, reducing your time out of fsr.
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15:34.16knarf^we only got feral cats :)
15:34.21kenlyricdownraking is good to avoid overhealing... but that's it.
15:34.39knarf^and rawr tanks
15:34.41kenlyricit doesn't have the massive bonus to efficiency that it used to. Whicch I suspect was blizzard's idea.
15:34.45knarf^no silly trees :P
15:34.47neeneeThere's no need to overheal if you time it right I think
15:35.06nevcairielwith 3 healers on one tank
15:35.08nevcairieloverheal happens
15:35.25knarf^neenee agreed
15:35.26aachenmadehi... anyone here who can help me with the registration on the forums or closetgnome?
15:35.33knarf^its jsut a matter of /stopcasting
15:35.59knarf^:)
15:35.59neeneeTrue, but that's a matter of timing and communication, not using too high rank a heal
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15:36.01knarf^and predictiing the dmg, if you should let it heal anyway :D
15:36.11kenlyricyeah, but if you downrank and don't overheal, you've blown your efficiency.
15:36.47kenlyriccast rank 7 every six seconds, or rank 3 every three seconds. Same healing, MUCH less efficient
15:36.57nevcairielon fights where the boss generally does a low avg dps, but some bad-ass spike dmg, low ranking is effective imho
15:37.08neeneeI don't heal on paper though
15:37.32neeneeAh well, to each their own :)
15:37.55JJSheetsCIA-18 is slacking off... :)
15:38.06nevcairieland still, i am talking from a druid standpoint, no idea about priests :D
15:38.26kenlyricyeah, if you can't afford to let your tank drop 4500 health, throwing on a rank 1gheal to keep them topped during minimal damage is definitely a good.
15:39.03neeneeWell, I use flash-heals if there's no time for a big heal :)
15:39.12kenlyricI have no idea how druid effiency works
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15:39.54kenlyricBut pre=tbc, a rank 1 heal would get something like 13hpm.... while a rank 5gheal would be something like 5hpm. It was a huge jump in efficiency to drop ranks.
15:40.03kenlyricThey've flattened that curve almost flat.
15:40.13knarf^neenee So do i , but usually I flashheal and start a gheal afterwards :ÅP
15:40.36neenee:) I rarely flash heal unless renew/gheal isn't quick enough
15:40.45kenlyriceeeh, renew.
15:40.49neenee:)
15:40.52kenlyricI've been trying to use that less and less these days.
15:40.59kenlyricso horribly inefficient.
15:41.02neeneerenew is efficient though :)
15:41.12nevcairiell2hot
15:41.35OverloadUTGah I am driving myself mad trying to figure out how to upload to wowinterface
15:41.42kenlyricrenew is necessary in some places, as augmentation, but it's still inefficient. Unless it ticks for all the healing.
15:42.01kenlyricTry to remember the number of times your renew has ticked for every tick :)
15:42.12Cairenn|afkfront page, left hand side menu "upload and update"
15:42.28nevcairielmy hots tend to get a lot of overheal, since priests dont care about them and force everyone instant to maxhp
15:42.28neeneeI don't have to, I have a display of who has a renew on, on grid
15:42.29Cairenn|afkreally obscure, huh?
15:42.47deltronI'm a shaman, I don't have hots :D
15:42.52OverloadUTCairenn|afk: Okay, I've tried that ;)
15:43.07OverloadUTThe category list is empty
15:43.23OverloadUTBy the way, reading the FAQ explains a way that does not work ;)
15:43.34Cairenn|afkthen go the proper category and use the "upload" button within the category
15:43.56Cairenn|afkshouldn't be empty though - make a report in the Site Bugs forum, screenshots of problems are good
15:43.58knarf^I can't use grid
15:44.10knarf^sseriously its a wierd frame
15:44.21neeneeAh, it took me a bit of time to get used to as well
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15:44.33OverloadUTCairenn|afk: I cannot find the "upload" button when on a category page. I did a search and it doesn't seem to be there :/
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15:44.44Cairenn|afkare you logged in?
15:44.52knarf^I can see its potential but I haven't gotten around to get used to it
15:44.55kenlyricI definitely need some alternative.
15:45.07kenlyricI like aguf frames, but when I go to a 25 man raid, it's not going to be functional.
15:45.18kenlyricIt says that filter buffs/debuffs doesn't have better logic.
15:45.25OverloadUTYes I am
15:45.26kenlyric*sucks
15:45.48OverloadUTI sent myself a PM to verify that my email address is validated (I believe you can only PM when that is the case?)
15:46.31Cairenn|afkhang on, gimme 2 sec
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15:47.55Cairenn|afkyou were still "awaiting confirmation" for some reason, I've gone in and manually approved, you should be gtg now
15:48.01OverloadUTAh okay
15:48.12OverloadUTI had waited like 1.5 months before verifying, maybe that messed it up :/
15:48.50OverloadUTYay it's working now, thanks Cairenn|afk!
15:48.55knarf^neenee could you perhaps help me with Grid ? :P
15:48.57Cairenn|afkdunno, anyway, you should be all set now, sorry 'bout that
15:49.00OverloadUTAnd you did all this away from your keyboard, impressive!
15:49.06Cairenn|afklol
15:49.27Cairenn|afkjust got back from the doc, on the phone with insurance company, understandably still set as afk ;)
15:50.45ilifinwhat in the hax, updated bartender3 and now all my bars are reset to default positions -_-
15:50.53neeneeknarf^: What do you want help with?
15:51.18nevcairielilifin: make sure you are still on the correct profile
15:51.38knarf^neenee what class did you play again ?
15:51.39ilifinyes, same profile
15:51.40ilifin-_-
15:51.54neeneeknarf^: Priest, druid and now a hunter
15:52.11knarf^well i'm having trouble reading the frames as a priest :)
15:52.12ilifinmy character profile is completely reset now
15:52.13ilifinsigh
15:52.17knarf^and jsut wanted some tips regarding that
15:52.24nevcairielblame AceDB
15:52.24neeneeBut I've used grid with my girlfriends' account too, who has a warlock, paladin, hunter and druid
15:52.25nevcairieli guess.
15:52.52ilifinluckily I use the same setup for all chars so just copied the default set
15:52.54ilifin-_-
15:52.55xyu`grid killed me today.  i coudn't see my HP because of the huge curse icon
15:53.01xyu`covering up the whole grid :P
15:53.46deltronI used to use grid in conjunction with another raid display
15:53.49knarf^xyu` ye stuff like that annoys me
15:53.51neeneexyu`: disable that then and use a corner or border to show that someone is curses
15:53.53neenee*cursed
15:53.53deltronI just use simpleraid now
15:54.17neeneeI use ag_UF with Grid
15:54.23xyu`is ther ea way to filter grid?
15:54.25xyu`i can't even decurse
15:54.29xyu`dont even care to have it show that at all
15:55.14neeneeyes
15:55.21neeneeYou can choose to not display any debuffs
15:55.25OverloadUTilifin: I've been having problems and I've seen many people report problems recently with profiles not saving in lots of Ace2 mods. I believe someone said AceDB was updated...
15:55.44nevcairieli dunno, i didnt have any problems of that sort
15:56.00xyu`neenee: is that under the "status" option?
15:56.51xyu`how do i get it just to show it in the boarder
15:56.55xyu`or a small square
15:56.58neeneeYup, or under the layout option
15:57.06neeneeShow what in the border?
15:57.09OverloadUTOkay, now who do I have to be nice to to get my addon approved on wowi? :P
15:57.20xyu`debuffs
15:57.29xyu`curses, magic debuff, poisons
15:57.35xyu`it shows them all as a huge icon that covers up the HP
15:57.46krkaOverloadUT: just wait a bit, one of the admins will approve it in time
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15:58.05neeneexyu`: Yes, you can set the border or one of the corners to that instead. Just choose the debuff from layout - the corner you want and untick all the icon options
15:58.14OverloadUTHeh, I know. I was just using super powers of annoyance to try to get it done faster. ;)
15:59.05JJSheetslol
15:59.07Cairenn|afkrepeats herself - doctor, insurance, phone
15:59.11JJSheetsrofl
15:59.27Cairenn|afknone-the-less, it's approved, and even fixed
15:59.40JJSheetsNo Whammies!
15:59.49OverloadUTHey I know when to quit
15:59.54JJSheetslol
16:00.20xyu`neenee: i guess i just don't see it.  in layout i can just change "Show Frame"  "raid layout"  "show party in raid" and "horizontal groups"
16:00.34krkahorizontal groups are fun
16:00.34Cairenn|afkI even fixed it for you so that it shows up as a plugin on the main Cart page
16:00.38neeneexyu`: Ah yea, I meant status.
16:00.51xyu`oh i think i found it, under auras
16:00.54neenee:)
16:01.09neeneeI wish grid could grow up instead of down though
16:01.28OverloadUTCairenn|afk: Thanks, I wasn't sure how to do it; I figured I could add that after it was approved.
16:01.37vodrinthought you could reverse growth
16:01.46Cairenn|afknot easily, you would have had to ask me to do it for you
16:02.12Cairenn|afkto upload plugins, you go to the mod that it's a plugin for and use the "upload plugin" option *shock*
16:02.35neeneevodrin: I can't find the option if it's there
16:02.53Cairenn|afkyes, I pick on people, it's part of my charm, you'll get used to it
16:02.59JJSheets:)
16:03.00xyu`is it "Show dead as being full health"
16:03.04xyu`try that neenee,
16:03.11neeneeNo, that's not what I meant :)
16:03.15xyu`oh
16:03.19neeneeI mean growing the actual frames up, instead of down
16:03.22neeneelayout-wise
16:03.27neeneeNot inverting the health
16:03.39xyu`ahh i see
16:03.49neenee:)
16:04.12JJSheetsDid somebody Mute CIA-18 or something?
16:04.16JJSheetslol
16:04.37Silviu-!unmute CIA-18
16:04.38Silviu-:))
16:04.59xyu`maybe his "Ping" will return "1 week"  instead of "x ms"
16:05.07JJSheets:)
16:05.09xyu`and there was a lot of " in that for some reason
16:05.43Proph_where can i grab simpleraid ?
16:06.11deltronhttp://files.wowace.com
16:06.27deltronI prefer simpleraid over grid
16:06.44xyu`i used to use perfectraid back in the day, <3'd it
16:07.07ilifinI want perfectraid back :<
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16:07.35deltronyeah was nice
16:07.39neeneeilifin: There is a perfectraid
16:07.47xyu`it's still around. just isn't ace any longer
16:07.49xyu`and fewer options
16:07.55xyu`like lack of mana i believe.
16:07.55neeneeBut it's there
16:07.55deltronsimpleraid is great though
16:08.09neeneehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4673
16:08.21ilifinit's not the same >:(
16:08.41neeneeDon't judge it without trying it ;)
16:09.01ilifinI'm not, tried it and it's not the same
16:09.36neeneeoki
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16:11.19neenee*watches Soylent Green*
16:12.11Jensomfg... I just discovered I forgot to spend talent points for the last three levels on my mage.
16:12.31JensThat's like finding money in your sofa.
16:12.43JensIt's also means I'm a noob, but still.
16:13.01JJSheetslol
16:13.27nevcairiellol
16:13.33nevcairiel3 levels, thats amazing
16:13.41nevcairieli only managed to keep one point half the level
16:13.42nevcairielbut 4
16:13.44nevcairieleh 3
16:13.45nevcairiel:o
16:14.14JensI need some strategy for talent point on my mage, instead of placing them semi-randomly.
16:14.23JensI haven't been arsed to research though.
16:14.42FISKER_Qtalent points?
16:14.54FISKER_Qhow do you get that?
16:15.07JensBy eh... leveling...
16:15.17FISKER_Qi'm level 61
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16:15.23neeneeYou don't need a strategy. Just think before placing them
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16:15.50JensI might be shooting myself in the foot, without realizing it.
16:16.08JJSheetsSo arse yourself to research.  :p
16:16.10mitch0Jens: just open the Frost tree, and click randomly. you've got less then 3% chance of picking a wrong talent :)
16:16.42JensClearcasting seems like something I should max out.
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16:17.04shieldbJens, not spending points can be kinda fun. I remember in diablo 2 I made a barbarian that I got to halfway through the second act where I purposefully didn't spend any stat or talent points :P
16:17.11mitch0Jens: depends on what sort of mage you wanna play. if you go full frost, then you don't need clearcasting
16:17.26Jensshieldb: I know someone who did that, and it annoyed me to no end.
16:17.45JJSheetsWell, I'm off to work.  Ya'll have fun.
16:17.50neeneeGood luck
16:17.51Jensmitch0: See, that's what I mean about self inflicted gunshot wounds to the lower extremities.
16:18.18shieldbit's pretty amusing in the first act but it just gets frustrating in the second act if you're not playing multiplayer to have others pick up the slack
16:18.32mitch0Jens: going full frost? actually, I pretty much like my full frost build... ymmv
16:18.49JensI think I might. Frost looks fun.
16:19.19JensBut reading people arguing over talent points isn't as fun as playing the game :/
16:19.20mitch0I'm 3/0/56 atm (lvl 68)
16:19.35aachenmadehi... anyone here who can help me with the registration on the forums or closetgnome?
16:19.37JensClearcast seems great though. Free spell 10% of the time.
16:19.48mitch0Jens: heh, yeah, unfortunately my employers wouldn't like me playing wow @work ;)
16:20.12JensBut they have no reservations about you being on IRC :)
16:20.44mitch0Jens: you'd either a) be in constant stress watching for CC to proc or b) spend it on your main nuke and don't gain that much from it
16:20.55JensHmm.
16:21.42mitch0I loved it when I specced out of it, a lot of frustration went away :)
16:21.50JensBlizz forums aren't working :(
16:22.00mitch0the only nice use of it was rank1 fb spam for clearcast proc, then blizz ;)
16:22.30JensAlright. But uninterupted Arcane Missiles is a must, no?
16:22.42mitch0if you're arcane, then maybe
16:22.45JensI find it's nice to use when I'm being pummeled in melee.
16:22.57mitch0I've not used AM since I hit outlands...
16:23.00xyu`i never do AM
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16:23.05mitch0and not much before either
16:23.30JensI don't really have anything else to use when mobs are meleeing me.
16:23.32mitch0for a frost or fire mage (or acr/any) it's useless
16:23.42xyu`Jens: Rank 1 Frost nova :)
16:23.51JensYea, but it has annoyingly long cd.
16:23.51mitch0mobs DON'T melee you
16:24.13xyu`enough to finish the mob and it'll be up before you engage next mob
16:24.21JensI'm level 35. FN is mostly the only thing I have to fix mobs.
16:24.30JensExcept for the rare frost bolt icing.
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16:24.50mitch0Jens: you can always just run a bit, can't you?
16:25.04JensSome times.
16:25.14xyu`fireball fireball frost nova fireball scorch
16:25.17xyu`should do away w/ most mobs
16:25.23xyu`if you're fire that is :)
16:25.26mitch0FB, FB, FB, nova, run, FB, FB, FB, run, FB, run, FB (if it's not dead by now, you're fighting some elite shit)
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16:26.05JensMy usual progression is, Frost bolt, fireball, fireblast, cone, FN, fire ball, fireblast (usually dead by now).
16:26.13Nickenyfikenlol WoW is crashing on me because it tried to request 1.1 GB of ram :-P
16:26.20mitch0Jens: drink much? :P
16:26.29xyu`try to stay away from fireblast
16:26.33xyu`it's expensive
16:26.40xyu`as is arcane missiles
16:26.40JensHow would you get three fireballs off without the mob meleeing you.
16:26.50xyu`2 fireballs.
16:26.54xyu`and its ok for a little melee
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16:27.02MoonWolfFrostbolt, fireball, frost nova, fireball fireball ?
16:27.05JensYea, but it takes 20 seconds to cast anything.
16:27.06Loki|muhhi
16:27.25mitch0you're playing from the space station? :)
16:27.26xyu`i get burning soul actually.
16:27.39xyu`and i find that it's better to use only fireball if you're fire.
16:27.39JensInitial frost bolt slows them enough for me to get a fireball and fire blast off before they're near me. Then I nova and fireball again.
16:27.44xyu`unless the space is small and you can't get max range
16:28.01xyu`replace fireblast w/ a scorch or 2
16:28.19xyu`scorch crits a lot and is probably the best damage to mana spell you have
16:28.24JensScorch? It does nearly 0 damage.
16:28.31mitch0eh...
16:28.40mitch0<forumtroll>l2p</forumtroll>
16:28.52Loki|muhdoes anyone have an idea for this bug: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/442 ? seems to have something to do with german localisation, but I have no idea where to start searching for the bug
16:29.18xyu`it does a decent ammount.  the thing you have to worry about is your efficiency
16:29.25xyu`always try to get the most out of your mana
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16:29.42JensWell... I get free drinks. It doesn't bother me that much.
16:29.43xyu`make sure frost nova is rank 1
16:30.02xyu`well you don't want to level at half pace. :)
16:30.02mitch0FN rank 1 is teh win
16:30.10xyu`if you're spending all your time drinking you're not getting xp
16:30.43mitch0I only recently found out that frostbite can overwrite rank 1 FN and not the others... how stupid is that? why do they even sell higher ranks of that spell? :)
16:31.31xyu`for the l33t 150 frost nova crits
16:32.24kenlyricit should last longer.
16:32.33xyu`yeah :/
16:32.33kenlyricmake the ranks more useful.
16:32.59Silviu-Why i had this ideea to reinstall my wow ? and make all settings new :/
16:33.00kenlyricEvery other crowd control spell that ranks either lasts longer or affects more targets.
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16:33.15xyu`Silviu-: for the fresh start!
16:33.21Silviu-:P
16:33.27xyu`Might as well format your whole computer now
16:33.32Silviu-i did
16:33.34Silviu-Before
16:33.35Silviu-:P
16:34.00Silviu-Atm i`m patching
16:34.06Silviu-Then redownload all addons
16:34.09Silviu-And start the chaos
16:34.10Silviu-^^
16:34.13mitch0did you at least keep the patch files? :)
16:34.18Silviu-Yes :P
16:34.44mitch0actually, with TBC I sorta decided to use most of the Blizz default UI stuff
16:34.56mitch0so I have default bars now
16:35.14mitch0tried the default SCT, but then I switched to MSBT
16:35.46mitch0and I had to keep advanced bags plus, 'cos otherwise I couldn't find anything in my bagz
16:36.12mitch0(although I'm considering to switch to baggins now)
16:36.35mitch0anyway, work is over, heading home, seeya
16:36.37fanatici like OneBag
16:37.18deltroni'm using baggins I think
16:37.22deltronI don't remember :P
16:38.20Nickenyfikendamnit i hate when wow crash :-/
16:39.10xyu`i only crash when i run 2 instances in vista.  vid card drivers dont' like that at all
16:39.36deltronI have no issue with that on xp :)
16:39.56xyu`me either
16:39.59xyu`it's vista for sure
16:40.00xyu`or the drivers
16:40.10xyu`starts flipping out w/ "display driver failed but recovered"
16:40.14xyu`until i close wow and reboot.
16:40.15xyu`wahhh
16:40.22KemayoI'm still using OneBag -- I like the idea of Baggins/ArcInventory, but they both wind up feeling too awkward for me.
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16:42.09JoshBorkewhat's this about onebag?
16:42.31nevcairielthat reminds me
16:42.35nevcairiel~slap JoshBorke
16:42.36purlACTION slaps JoshBorke, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:43.00JoshBorkeeh?
16:43.06JoshBorkewhat'd i do?
16:43.11JoshBorke~whaleslap nevcairiel
16:43.13purlACTION beats nevcairiel upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
16:43.13nevcairielyou changed OneView to do that BagBreak thing
16:43.19nevcairielwithout an option to turn it off :P
16:43.33JoshBorkeit should be affected by the Bag Break option
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16:43.40nevcairielit wasnt
16:43.44nevcairielnow it is.
16:44.05JoshBorkeyea, i wasn't sure what was going on with OneView.  since it doesn't use OneCore
16:44.07nevcairielin the whole OneView OrganizeFrame func was no single reference to that bagBreak option
16:44.33JoshBorkewell, then that slap was well deserved
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16:45.06JoshBorke:-D
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16:45.49tripoodhi, french her ?
16:46.05JoshBorkesorry, american
16:46.15tripoodyea i think.
16:46.16JoshBorkei am that is
16:49.26tripoodThere is not a zip base files to start to create a addon?
16:50.00vhaarrnevcairiel: gah, you bastard, my BT3 settings are reset :P
16:50.22JoshBorketripood: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
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16:50.28OverloadUTtripod: If you want to make an Ace2 addon, check out this page: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
16:50.33Silviu-vhaarr just copy settings from Default :)
16:50.34OverloadUTBah :P
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16:50.58tripoodoh thanks, perfect.
16:51.13vhaarrSilviu-: Ah, there it is.
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16:54.08vhaarrw00t, 1k posts on the forum
16:54.13vhaarrthis calls for celebration
16:55.42JensNow I researched talents... I'm even more confused.
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16:56.08deltronhttp://www.zdmcirc.com/forms/secure/GFW_Joystiq_Partn.htm
16:56.09JensI'm just going to improve blizzard some and have fun with that.
16:58.14JensFrustrating++
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17:06.22Proph_can't find simpleraid on wowacefiles
17:06.54neeneeRabbit: please add the following to antispam.lua: wow-europe.cn, gmauthorization, wow-europe-gold
17:07.04vhaarrneenee: alright
17:07.21neenee:)
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17:07.35neeneegmworker seems to be creating a lot of aliases
17:09.10vhaarr~seen CIA-18
17:09.37purlcia-18 is currently on #wowace (2d 3h 12m 19s). Has said a total of 420 messages. Is idling for 5h 3m 42s, last said: 'ow'.
17:09.37neeneeYeah, he has been quiet all day
17:14.15vodrin...europe.cn
17:14.17vodrinnice!
17:14.46neenee:P
17:14.47neeneeyea
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17:15.49Funkeh`hey everyone
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17:19.10Xuerian'morning, Funkeh`. If anyone hasn't heard the song yet; http://www.jonathancoulton.com/music/thingaweek/CodeMonkey.mp3
17:19.46Funkeh`lol Xuerian, nice find
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17:21.48yacoobXuerian, have you seen 'First of May' video to this guy's song? :)
17:21.54vhaarrhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA
17:21.59vhaarrThat's the best one.
17:22.00kenlyricfirst of may, outdoor fuckin starts today!
17:22.17deltronlol
17:22.17kenlyricskullcrusher mountain is pretty awesome.
17:22.18XuerianNah, I haven't seen any of the movies. I don't usually sit through loading over 30-second movies at 4KiB/s :)
17:22.59kenlyricjust fyi, if he comes to your town, go see him!
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17:25.06Funkeh`http://talents.unleashedgaming.net/?p=vt&i=3434
17:25.08Funkeh`<3
17:25.16Funkeh`[priests]
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17:28.01JensSomeone said I should use rank 1 Frost Nova... why?
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17:28.23kenlyricless mana. Same effect.
17:28.24shieldbJens, isn't it the same effect duration / range for rank 1?
17:28.32shieldbjust less mana / less damage
17:28.33kenlyricthe damage frost nova does is miniscule at any rank.
17:28.47JensWell, kinda.
17:28.56JensBut it costs so little mana anyways.
17:29.14kenlyricyeah, but it makes a difference in overall efficiency.
17:29.34neeneehehe
17:29.35kenlyricit's like me finally learning to use rank 1 of primal scream when there's only one mob I want to fear.
17:29.40neeneeI enjoyed that, thanks vhaarr :)
17:29.47vhaarr^^
17:29.58kenlyricthat video is very disturbing.
17:30.15kenlyricoh, thought it was first of may :)
17:30.18Funkeh`Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player.
17:30.22Funkeh`wtf
17:30.23kenlyrichttp://www.youtube.com/profile?user=spiffworld
17:30.30kenlyricspeedmonkey is the newest, it's pretty awesome
17:30.33Funkeh`i just watched one 30min ago
17:30.40neeneemy girlfriend is a code monkey (senior programmer), so she may like it too, too bad it's not about a female monkey though :)
17:30.58kenlyricspeed monkey features one uberhax monkey.
17:31.08XuerianI think it transcends gender fairly well :P
17:31.13neenee:)
17:31.22OverloadUTFunkeh`: Running noscript?
17:31.44Funkeh`nvm
17:31.57Funkeh`i opened it up in seamonkey
17:32.25kenlyricre: your brains is lots of fun live.
17:32.30kenlyricthe audience gets to be the zombies.
17:32.53kenlyricwell, the zombie chorus.
17:33.21Funkeh`rofl vhaarr
17:33.40neeneeI prefer the slower one
17:33.47vhaarr:)
17:34.05Funkeh`must have taken a while to make that
17:35.25neenee*watches it for the third time*
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17:37.42kergothhey all
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17:38.10neeneehello ;)
17:39.22kergothnevcairiel: supply&demand works well, i use it in my addon set for lots of things
17:39.24Xuerianoi, kergoth.
17:39.30kergoth~morning
17:39.37purlGood morning!
17:39.42kergoths/Good //
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17:43.02nevcairielyea
17:43.07nevcairielwas just thinking about 2.1.0 then
17:43.17nevcairielwhen it really could be used without adapting my .tocs
17:43.38neeneeHe made some nice videos :)
17:43.50XuerianWhat's coming in 2.1.0 that deals with stubs? o.0
17:44.04Funkeh`nevcairiel you liek broke bt3 u suk
17:45.13Funkeh`i have a feeling your gonna be telling a lot of people soon to 'copy your default profile'
17:45.18kergothdamnit, foudn another use case that breaks 'piston'
17:45.43nevcairielFunkeh`: i didnt break BT3, AceDB is broken
17:45.53Funkeh`acedb works fine atm
17:46.09Funkeh`itsa the fact you changed it from default to char by default
17:46.15Funkeh`it made a new profile
17:46.41Funkeh`which was fixed fine b copying the default profile to char
17:47.03nevcairielor simply switching back to default
17:47.17Funkeh`indeed
17:47.26Funkeh`doesn't change the fact that you have complaining inc
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17:47.28Funkeh`:p
17:47.43vhaarrI already complained \o/
17:47.48Funkeh`hehehe
17:48.04vhaarr^^
17:48.11nevcairielwhere did you complain?
17:51.16vhaarrhere
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17:53.14Arrowmasterhmm i think i solved my problem viewing flash videos like youtube, i uninstalled shockwave
17:55.41Punkie`so euh
17:55.51Punkie`how do i put back my bt3 settings ^^
17:56.39nevcairielchange to default
17:56.43nevcairielor copy from default
17:56.49nevcairieli recommend the 2nd :)
17:58.02Punkie`i changed to default which is fine
17:58.04Punkie`although!
17:58.12Silviu-Anyone remember a name of an addon on wowi that showed a big grid on your screen and help u arange your addons ? ;)
17:58.20Punkie`i have what looks like the top left actionbar showing
17:58.26Punkie`and the 2 right ones on the side
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17:59.26Silviu-Oh, found it was Align :)
17:59.34Punkie`they cant be turned off by the bartender lock thingy
18:00.59Punkie`ill get a pic
18:02.40Punkie`http://www.booncontrol.com/randombars.jpg
18:04.04kenlyricI believe those are bars 3 and 4.
18:04.30Punkie`if i click on the lock thing
18:04.31kenlyriclocking doesn't hide bars unless you've disabled them.
18:04.37Punkie`aha
18:05.18Punkie`they were disabled
18:05.23Punkie`but i enabled and disabled them
18:05.26Punkie`and now they are gone
18:05.29Punkie`coolio
18:05.37ckknighthttp://graphics1.snopes.com/photos/arts/graphics/paintcat08.jpg
18:05.38kenlyricstrange.
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18:09.24XuerianHaha. Nice blending.
18:10.27Funkeh`rofl
18:10.30Funkeh`nice one ck
18:10.31Barbanusnevcairiel, is BT3 fixed now with the default profile thing?
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18:10.53ckknightnice, but sad
18:10.57ckknightsomeone painted their cat.
18:11.17Elkanobtw: ckknight, is Mangle fixed? ;)
18:11.28ckknightI wouldn't know, I haven't worked on it
18:11.30ckknighthttp://graphics1.snopes.com/photos/arts/graphics/paintcat02.jpg
18:11.45Barbanusgood thing it comes off with soap and CTRL+Z
18:11.48kenlyricthe first one was dignified.
18:11.52kenlyricthat second one was just wrong.
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18:12.06XuerianThat's... paint? o.0
18:12.15Barbanushttp://graphics1.snopes.com/photos/arts/graphics/paintcat03.jpg
18:12.20XuerianI thought someone used a lighten layer and did some nice warping in photoshop... o.0
18:13.20kergothmeh
18:13.50BarbanusROFL, WTF http://graphics1.snopes.com/photos/arts/graphics/paintcat09.jpg
18:15.21harldephinwell..
18:15.49kergothhmm, how best to handle this usecase in piston
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18:23.14OverloadUT|WorkHere, you can see all of the pictures and simultaneusly ruin the fun of people believing it: http://www.snopes.com/photos/arts/paintedcats.asp
18:23.14OverloadUT|Work:P
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18:27.11sylvanaari hate hackers
18:28.19Xueriano.0
18:29.32Barbanussylvanaar, hackers in the game, or out?
18:29.37Barbanusor both?
18:29.49sylvanaarones on irc, in this channel prolly
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18:30.10Barbanusugh, someone scanning you or something?
18:30.20sylvanaaryeah
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18:31.10Barbanusidiots ..
18:31.30JensThat's why we have hostname cloaks, you know.
18:31.44Jens<-- /whois Jens
18:31.49sylvanaari know
18:32.32nevcairielask a staffer
18:32.35sylvanaarbut, i dont do that.
18:32.36Cairennask me
18:32.43JensMine's an donator cloak, but you can get a normal cloak by whining at admins.
18:32.44Xuerian=D
18:32.47XuerianHow do we? :3
18:33.13Tornhoofget a bncer ;)
18:33.13Jens/stats p <-- list of people whom you can whine at
18:33.47CairennI "own" (please note the quotes) the cloaks for "WoWUIDev" that you see folks running around with in here and the lounge
18:34.07JensThe good samaritan approach is to donate $16 USD or more to Freenode.
18:34.20Cairenn[name]@WoWUIDev\affiliation\[name]
18:34.30XuerianAaaah
18:34.46deltronnice
18:35.01Cairennall you guys have ever had to do is ask me, it's been said enough times and there are enough people that already have
18:35.07BarbanusCairenn, a staffer still needs to turn it on for you tho, right?
18:35.17Cairennyes, but I have to ask for it
18:35.27JensAll this cloak info is in the Freenode FAQ as well... *cough*
18:35.41Icerothdoes it make my epeen grow?
18:35.51JensYes, Iceroth.
18:35.54Iceroth:o
18:35.55BarbanusIceroth, its epeen +100, stamina -250
18:35.58sylvanaarok, i guess i need to get it, as for the faq, i have never needed cloaking, so i had no reason to read it
18:36.10Barbanusit also increases your defense rating by 10000
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18:36.37Jens"You know you're in #WoWAce when..."
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18:37.14CairennTem, MentalPower, Clad, Iriel, norganna, Esamynn, myself (although mine is rather different for obvious reasons), etc all have cloaks
18:37.32kenlyricfreenode has a faq? where's the faq that tells me freenode has a faq? :)
18:38.03BarbanusI read the faq about the faq, but it told me to check the faq :(
18:38.10kenlyricfaqit
18:38.15kergothpeople are silly at times
18:38.21kergothhere's a crazy idea.. http://freenode.net/
18:38.23Barbanuskergoth, at times?
18:38.23kergothclick on faq
18:38.31Cairenn[name]@WoWUIDev\WoWI\Featured\Dongle\[name], [name]@WoWUIDev\norganna\Admin\[name], [name]@WoWUIDev\Ace\[name], etc etc
18:38.37kenlyricirc networks with web sites. Blasphemy
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18:38.48durcyni'll relate the faq to you:  Q: Does anyone care enough about my hostmask to packet me?  A: No. Go outside.
18:38.55kergothhehe
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18:39.21kenlyricI'd like to see it happen to me. I really would.
18:39.26JensI got flooded off the net by kiddies once.
18:39.44sylvanaar2x yesterday
18:39.48Tornhoofheh happened to me on efnet all the time, back in the days
18:39.51JensMy crime aparently was entering their channel.
18:39.51kergothi remember dealing that sort of foolishness when i was on efnet like 10 years ago
18:39.55kergoththats about it though
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18:40.00BarbanusSpeaking of being packetted, Ominous cant stay connected .. lol
18:40.02JensYea, this was on Undernet.
18:40.08Ominouslol i know
18:40.11BarbanusJens, I got packetted a ton on Undernet
18:40.16BarbanusI mean .. a ton
18:40.19kenlyricI'd suspect anyon that tried to flood me off would fall off the internet far sooner than I would.
18:40.22Ominoustiscali == shit
18:40.26Tornhoofthose days were nice kergoth ;)
18:40.27BarbanusI used to op a big teens channel there, back in the day
18:40.31JensI wasn't even a regular there. I just popped in to say hello to some people.
18:40.37JensBoom, flooded.
18:40.39kenlyricunless it was some sort of DDoS attack
18:40.49Arrowmasterim always cloaked on GameSurge now a days, mainly because I hang out in a channel that has a tendancy to piss off the kiddies
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18:41.12Barbanusall irc servers should have cloaking by default, imo
18:41.24sylvanaari guess so,
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18:42.02BarbanusOh shadowfire, by default my host is tecnobrat@420571D4.1C69BEF4.3E3B091C.IP
18:42.05BarbanusOn*
18:42.29BarbanusOr @SF-D0D84AE9.com, when my DNS isn't being a POS
18:43.16BarbanusProbably some way to reverse that tho :P
18:44.55Arrowmasterim guessing its a hash so theres multiple originals that could equal that
18:45.50Tornhooffor ip adresses?
18:45.51Tornhoofno
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18:46.26Barbanuswell, 420571D4.1C69BEF4.3E3B091C.IP would be impossible to target me, unless you planned on taking the whole subnet out
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18:46.57Tornhoofunless you know their hash
18:47.06BarbanusNote, *.IP
18:47.45Tornhoofoh well i'll just send you along on some website ;)
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18:48.01Barbanusheh, yea
18:48.58BarbanusHey guys, check out my UI : http://www.server-i-have-access-to-logs.com/image-of-random-ui.jpg
18:50.38Tornhoof^^
18:51.02OverloadUT|WorkBarbanus: That link doesn't work for me. It just says "Haha, you are never safe!"
18:51.06Arrowmasteri could do that too, just then you would know my ip too since the servers a 166mhz p1 sitting next to me
18:51.22Barbanushaha Arrowmaster
18:51.40Ordogis there an ace alternative to KLH Threatmeter? mainly because of the WAU comfort ^^
18:51.46[dRaCo]no
18:51.57OverloadUT|WorkMy server is in SF, hosts civstats.com, apartment167.com, arandomnumber.com...
18:54.55FISKER_Qi need a sperm dumpster
18:55.19Xuerian...
18:55.51FISKER_Qi'm a sick individual
18:55.52Barbanuswow, I could say something
18:55.58Barbanusbut I will refrain
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19:12.37tripood
19:12.37tripoodI have an idea for a addon, but I am not very good to create one of them. I would like to know if there is one of kind.
19:12.52kergothask away
19:13.23tripoodyea
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19:13.43tripoodi search an addon for ignore a section of level (sorry for my bad english)
19:14.14tripoodexemple : 1-10 (gold spam & aigri with free account 10day)
19:15.20OverloadUT|WorkOh, you want to ignore players that are within a certain level range
19:15.27tripoodyea
19:15.35tripoodi dont have friend in 1 - 10
19:16.15tripoodignore and /w : "automatic message: sorry, I ignore you for the moment." (choice)
19:16.27OverloadUT|WorkThe biggest problem with that is that you can't tell someone's level without doing a /who on them. So the addon would have to do a who on every message received before it displays it, which would create a big delay in all of your incoming chats.
19:17.04tripoodi think.
19:17.16ckknightCIA's dead?
19:17.21OverloadUT|Workckknight: Yeah
19:17.25OverloadUT|Work~seen CIA-18
19:17.56purlcia-18 is currently on #wowace (2d 5h 20m 38s). Has said a total of 420 messages. Is idling for 7h 12m 1s, last said: 'ow'.
19:17.56kergothis it? dangit
19:17.56Elkanohmm.. if I remember correctly the 10day free accounts are cripled so you cant whisper, post to general, send mail, ...
19:17.56kergothits working in another channel i'm in..
19:17.56ckknightI committed a change to Ace2
19:17.56ckknightAceModuleCore-2.0 is now more efficient
19:17.59tripoodsend mail no... but wisp... yea.
19:18.10Elkano~kick CIA-18
19:18.18purlbugger off, elkano!
19:18.33Elkanohmm... there used to be a command to make purl 'slap' cia somehow
19:18.50tripoodIt is addon would be really useful for me.
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19:18.59ckknight~slap CIA-18
19:19.01purlACTION slaps CIA-18, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
19:19.01OverloadUT|WorkIf you only want to ignore whispers, then it wouldn't be too bad - the first time you receive a whisper from someone, it would do a /who to see what their level is, but then it would store it in a database so it would only delay the message the first time.
19:19.02Elkanoat leased it seemd to fix cia sometimes
19:19.17ckknight~kick Elkano
19:19.19purlbugger off, ckknight!
19:19.23ckknighthrm
19:19.31OverloadUT|WorkOhhh thems fightin' words
19:19.39ckknight~literal CMD: kick (.*)
19:19.54tripoodi'm a ganker, and in europea server, i have much wisp (1-4 free-account).
19:19.57ckknight~listkeys kick
19:20.19ckknight~literal CMD: kick (.*?)
19:20.22purl"cmd: kick (.*?)" is "($1): <reply>bugger off, $who!"
19:20.30Elkano~kicknuts CIA-18
19:20.31purlACTION kicks CIA-18 in da Snuts "how is that, CIA-18,  err ? :P"
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19:20.51tripoodmhhh
19:20.55durcynpoor infobot.
19:21.12Xuerian<PROTECTED>
19:21.14neeneeCode Monkey get up, get coffee, Code Monkey go to job... Code Monkey have boring meeting, boring manager job..
19:21.18ckknightpurl: no kick $1 is <action>kicks $1
19:21.20purlckknight: okay
19:21.25ckknight~kick CIA-18
19:21.26purlACTION kicks CIA-18
19:21.27CIA-18ow
19:21.39ckknight~hug CIA-18
19:21.40purlACTION hugs CIA-18 tightly until CIA-18 turns slightly blue
19:21.49neeneeCode Monkey like you!
19:21.50ckknightah, good enough
19:21.52tripoodjust this : if i have a message (wisp), don't show this and respond : automatic message : i ignore you.
19:22.01tripoodif 1-10
19:22.05neeneeCode Monkey hang around at front desk, till your sweater looks nice
19:22.47tripoodOh i have undestend... the first message appears.
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19:24.43neeneeCode Monkey not sayin' out loud, Code Monkey not crazy, just proud!
19:25.12kergothneenee: heh, what is that?
19:25.18neeneeCode Monkey offer buy you soda, bring you cup, bring you ice
19:25.19neeneehehe
19:25.30neeneekergoth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA :D
19:25.41neeneeI can't seem to stop listening to it.
19:25.43Adirelleckknight: ping
19:26.00tripood
19:26.00tripoodthere is a addon which could answer a message automatically according to a section of level or other options'?
19:26.48Adirelle~seen ckknight
19:27.07purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (9h 20m 1s) #norganna (9h 20m 1s) #wowace (9h 20m 1s). Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 5m 17s, last said: 'ah, good enough'.
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19:27.08ckknightI just talked, dude
19:27.08ckknightlike 4 minutes prior
19:27.11neeneeIndeed. he said
19:27.13neeneeYup :)
19:27.22XuerianAdirelle just joined the channel 3 minutes prior :p
19:27.27ckknightah
19:27.29ckknightfair enough
19:27.34ckknightstill a nub
19:27.38vhaarrJoin/quit messages are for losers.
19:27.40vhaarr;)
19:27.42ckknightshazam!
19:27.44Adirellelol
19:27.53neeneeI have those filtered out too ;)
19:28.03XuerianSince when is that a insult, I'm proud of being a looser!
19:28.26AdirelleParser-3.0 seems to miss some thins, like SIMPLECASTSELFOTHER in CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE event
19:28.44OverloadUT|WorkXuerian: What exactly do you loose?
19:29.23XuerianOverloadUT|Work: Life, strategy games, races, contests, drawings, lessons, keys, that kind of thing.
19:29.53XuerianApparently I loose IRC too :P
19:29.55neeneehm.. Time to try cygwin/irssi
19:29.57OverloadUT|WorkI was making fun of your mispelling of "loser" ;)
19:30.07ckknightAdirelle: code up a patch
19:30.13OverloadUT|WorkEditing the TOC_Data page on the wiki is a huge pain. I just thought I would let everyone know.
19:30.28Adirelleany official topic on the forum ?
19:30.36ckknightthere might be
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19:30.54XuerianOverloadUT|Work: Of course. Being a looser (Long-time loser, double-o shows this), I responded to the proper spelling :P
19:31.13OverloadUT|WorkHaha, good save
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19:35.40BarbanusAdirelle, do you have plans to add channel support for CastYeller?
19:35.51AdirelleI was thinking about it
19:36.12BarbanusAlso, any chance you can add Blessing of Protection for Paladins? :)
19:36.13Adirellereplacing "party/raid" by "broadcast", then letting people choosing where to broadcast : yell/raid/channel
19:36.46Adirellebig chances :p
19:37.01AdirelleI was working on hit/miss announces (thus my question to ckknight)
19:37.01Barbanushehe
19:37.09Barbanusahhh cool
19:37.25BarbanusI like the fact that so far its pretty generic
19:37.26Adirellejust a question : do you already use a macro with BoP ?
19:37.34BarbanusYep, I do
19:37.42Arrowmasterwtf i just got a 'spam' fax!
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19:38.16BarbanusI send a tell to the recipient (usually a mage), and send a message to a channel
19:38.47BarbanusI also use it for fights that we rotate BoPs on MTs to cause an aggro rotation
19:38.52BarbanusRead: Huhu
19:39.24Barbanus(which we obvously dont do anymore)
19:39.42OverloadUT|WorkI think something happened to Xuerian
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19:42.01neeneekergoth: Did you like the Code Monkey movie?
19:42.57kergothneenee: yes, its awesome
19:43.51kenlyricdid you watch speed monkey?
19:44.16kenlyrichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxLLiTkiOaQ
19:44.33neeneekergoth: :) Indeed. there's a faster one too like kenlyric mentioned. But it kindof messes up the song. Ah well, look at it too :)
19:44.50kenlyricyeah, song is worse, but video is better. Badass monkey.
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19:45.06neeneeIt looks far more fake though :|
19:45.41neeneehm
19:45.44AmadeoThe more I see about Warhammer, the more I want it to be released
19:45.47kenlyricThat's why skullcrusher mountain is the best of the videos. The topic, the music, the video... blend together perfectly.
19:45.52neenee*searches for a irssi/cygwin standalone package*
19:46.05neeneekenlyric: Does it feature a monkey though?
19:46.21kenlyricit features a half-pony, half-monkey monster
19:46.31neeneehm
19:46.34kenlyrichttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ryNJVreiY
19:46.40neeneeI'll go watch it then
19:48.51neeneehm
19:48.56neeneeSo far I like the Code Monkey better
19:49.21neeneeThough Skullcrusher Mountain has a nice story
19:49.22kenlyricand you've seen first of may?
19:49.29neeneeYes
19:49.33neeneeIt's interesting ;)
19:49.50kenlyriccode monkey is probably his best song. It could easily play on regular radio.
19:49.57neeneeyup
19:50.00kergothcode monkey like fritos!
19:50.02kergothmm, fritos
19:50.04neeneehehe
19:50.42kenlyriceveryone I know who knows about JC was introduced to him through Code Monkey :)
19:50.53neenee:)
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19:51.16neenee*starts Code Monkey again*
19:51.26kenlyrichttp://www.jonathancoulton.com/songs
19:51.47kenlyricMandelbrot Set is for the math nerd in all of us.
19:52.09neeneeyup, saw the page :) Haven't checked out all yet though :)
19:52.14Prophyanything new equiv to PerfectRaid?
19:53.04neeneeuse PerfectRaid :)
19:53.33Adirelledamn, hit events are different for a lot spells :(
19:53.33BarbanusYes, PerfectRaid is definately a good equiv for PerfectRaid
19:53.39BarbanusIts almost perfectly the same
19:53.45Prophydoesn't show "low mana"
19:53.51Prophyonly gripe with it
19:53.57Prophyor shw mana bars
19:54.26BarbanusAdirelle, seems to be a general lack of consistency with them also
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19:57.23Adirellethat's really annoying for CastYeller :(
19:57.40AdirelleI thought I could go with something quite generic
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19:58.16Ominousthis conenction is stupid, cya
19:58.17durcynyou can show mana bars with praid.
19:58.23durcynl2readfaqs
19:58.50Silviu-Yay finished my ui again :)
19:59.22OverloadUT|WorkI like that Curse uses wiki markup for addon descriptions; makes it easy to copy paste from the Ace wiki :P
19:59.32kergothneenee: i cant seem to stop listening to this
19:59.34kergothhehe
19:59.43ckknightOverloadUT|Work: curse uses Markdown, I believe
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20:00.04OverloadUT|WorkI should have said a wiki-like markup because it doesn't support everything
20:00.39Silviu-http://tinyurl.com/yo9el3
20:00.48neeneekergoth: Same here.
20:00.56neeneekergoth: I was given the link hours ago I think
20:01.07neeneekergoth: I'm going to make an mp3 out of it or find the song in a good quality
20:02.39neeneeoh, I can buy the song using paypal
20:02.49neenee1 USD
20:03.16neeneegetting it :)
20:03.45neeneehm. Now, I could share it, but that might be frowned upon in here?
20:04.35durcynat least strip the DRM off first.
20:05.22neeneeI doubt it's protected
20:05.55neeneeIt's an MP3
20:06.08neeneeoh wait.
20:06.44deltroni hate drm
20:07.09kergothits drm free
20:07.14kergothhe says to distribute it if you like
20:07.17neeneecool
20:07.20kergothon the top of his page
20:07.31ckknightthrow me a copy, I don't know what you're talking about
20:07.31kergothi'll probably buy it too just to give him some credit where credit is due, though
20:07.33neeneeBut why doesn't he provide downlods?
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20:07.50neeneehm. bandwidth probably
20:07.51kergothpeople can charge for open source apps, this is no different really
20:08.49neeneeuploading
20:09.31neenee50%
20:10.18neeneehttp://legionoflore.com/bin/codemonkey.zip :)
20:10.19neeneeEnjoy :)
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20:10.37deltronkergoth: you try karazhan yet?
20:10.51kergothnot yet, havent been playing much
20:11.04deltronah
20:11.22deltrongot attumen/midnight and moroes down last night
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20:11.41kergothnice
20:11.58deltronpally loot dropped off of moroes :(
20:12.35deltronheh your bro stopped by last night
20:12.47kergothyea i heard
20:12.50neeneeback
20:14.43neeneejeez.
20:14.50neeneeWhy did I buy it? I can download it from here: http://www.spiffworld.com/unplugged/index.cfm#misc
20:14.51neeneelol
20:14.54neeneeAh well :)
20:15.38neeneeOh, it's different
20:15.45neeneeVery different
20:16.10kergothit was only a buck :)
20:16.13neeneeOh wait, multiple versions :D
20:16.20neeneethree or four versions :D
20:16.39neeneeAh, I'm listening to the unplugged version
20:17.39CrisCr0sshas ne 1 bought gold?
20:17.45neeneeNo. Never
20:17.47neeneeNEVER!
20:17.49neeneeDon't do that
20:17.52CrisCr0ssnot even for a mount
20:17.52neeneeIt ruins the game for you
20:17.52CrisCr0sslol
20:17.54neeneeno
20:18.03ckknightdon't do that, CrisCr0ss
20:18.11neeneeUnless you're going for an epic flying mount, buying is not even worth considering
20:18.24ckknightand at that point, it'll be hella expensive
20:18.27neeneeIt's very easy to get money levelling 60->70, you get hundreds easily
20:18.56deltronI got hundreds just completing several quests
20:19.04neeneeBuying money makes what you purchase worthless, as you did nothing to get it. No effort at all.
20:19.12neeneeIt's like using cheat codes
20:19.22neeneeYou're cheating yourself.
20:19.27neenee:|
20:19.37deltronand anyone else on your server
20:20.26deltroniddqd!
20:20.30neenee:)
20:20.31deltronidkfa!
20:20.35neeneeidspispopd
20:21.43OverloadUT|WorkSmashing Pumpkins Into Small Piles Of Putrid Debris!
20:21.50neeneeYup :)
20:21.55neeneeI think that was a small game once too
20:21.59OverloadUT|WorkYep
20:22.03neeneeEither isometric or top-down
20:22.06OverloadUT|WorkIt was a joke game made during the development of Doom
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20:22.09neeneeWhere you were a viking or such with a hammer
20:22.14PogoTribalOk whoever made Skinner, fix your fucking mod.
20:22.21neeneeer, right..
20:22.25neeneePogoTribal: What is broken?
20:22.26CrisCr0ssnice way to say it
20:22.29CrisCr0ssjackass
20:22.30neeneeIndeed.
20:22.33OverloadUT|WorkThere was a fan base getting restless and it became a sort of "forum joke" and some guy actually made it.
20:22.50neeneeOverloadUT|Work: Ah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPISPOPD :)
20:23.29OverloadUT|WorkAw damn, with Wikipedia these days nobody can show off the random information they have, because they could just be reading it from Wikipedia :P
20:23.34PogoTribalIt keeps skinning my freakin bags with the bottomframe settings every time I log in.
20:24.17neeneeOverloadUT|Work: :)
20:24.35neeneePogoTribal: Delete your SVs?
20:25.39OverloadUT|WorkI learned about the joke way back when Doom came out; I think it was in the strategy guide, back when strategy guides were written by die hard fans instead of chruned out by the company that makes the game. :(
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20:26.59PogoTribalDelete my SVs...
20:27.15PogoTribalI think I might delete everything and reload with standalone libraries.
20:27.46kenlyriclol... if earning eMoney in an eGame is how you find worth in yourself, you have bigger issues than goldbuying to worry about.
20:29.54hastePogoTribal: I wouldn't really trust Jncl to fix anything tbh
20:29.59hastebut that's my personal opinion
20:31.01Punkie`zomg drama
20:31.16Punkie`haste! pack me up your addons folder kk :D <3
20:31.36hasteno, you don't want it - trust me
20:31.51Punkie`i do!
20:31.53Punkie`gogo :D
20:32.02hasteand I don't want you to have it yet :)
20:32.08Punkie`!!
20:32.11Punkie`i need to test it!
20:32.13hastenot until I clean up some of the stuff that's there at least
20:32.28Punkie`hey! i dont mind spaghetti code
20:32.34Punkie`its ammo that does!
20:32.56steinohaste never shares stuff, he just shows you pretty pictures and laugh
20:32.59steinotrue story
20:33.11hasteIt's not that much spaghetti code, more a combination of things that can blow up your UI
20:33.47Punkie`shrug, zip it!
20:34.11Punkie`btw, just to let you know - ever since you done some scaling stuff with atropine, it is now mega huge
20:34.30hasteIt follows your UIScale atm
20:35.17Punkie`my scale is midway
20:35.22Punkie`and that box is huge
20:35.39hasteIt was .64 in scale before
20:36.13hasteI did that solution until I can complete the options
20:36.18hastewhich will be this weekend
20:36.22ckknightthis seems like a neat idea: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79214656&sid=1
20:36.43ckknightthough what I'd do is make it pulse like a heartbeat
20:37.02ckknightat say, 50%, it starts pulsing
20:37.04Punkie`i thought the UI already had that feature it just wasnt standarly avail?
20:37.17ckknightat like 1 pulse/sec
20:37.28ckknightthen by 1%, it'll pulse at like 10 pulses/sec
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20:38.06Nifedid bartender3 just get broken?
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20:38.54Icerothchange your profile back :)
20:39.40Nifek, thanks :-) yay
20:40.22Iceroth"wtf" was my initial reaction too today after updating it :p
20:40.39Icerothsvn -> change logs -> something about profiles -> whee
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20:41.09nevcairieli even did some bold-ish post in the forums thread
20:43.22Icerothi wish i had time to read all the forum posts.. i just usually check icehud thread for new messages and take a quick look around the boards if there's some kewl new addon up :)
20:46.37tripood
20:46.37tripoodthere is a addon which is unaware of all the messages except those of the friendlist & of the guild with a togglebutton?
20:46.42tripood(sorry for my bad english)
20:49.45deltronto filter out everything but that?
20:51.22tripoodif i activate this function, all message
20:51.22tripoodare not shown
20:53.18tripoodexcept guild message & and friendlist message. No GoldSpam, No aigri guys with freeaccount. if the function is on, all wisp would be answered with an automatic message.
20:53.42Punkie`you can put a DND on
20:53.49Punkie`and then untick the channels in the options
20:54.01tripood*DnD ?
20:54.38Punkie`yes
20:54.43Punkie`<PROTECTED>
20:54.52Punkie`<PROTECTED>
20:55.08tripoodoh yea sorry. (French version)
20:55.11Punkie`ah ok,
20:55.13Punkie`you mean
20:55.27Punkie`it only filters your whispers?
20:55.46Punkie`there is a mod for whispers to stop goldspam, i think its name is spamsentry?
20:56.06neeneeYes
20:56.40tripood
20:56.40tripoodI want right statement with turned sour after having them gank, that even me wisp with a free account or a friendly account would not be useful has anything to make a relation.
20:56.45tripoodyea spamsentry.
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20:57.04tripoodi want this
20:57.04tripoodengine
20:57.38Punkie`http://www.wowace.com/files/SpamSentry/SpamSentry-r28586.6.zip
20:58.27tripoodit there with the possibility of answering with an automatic message?
20:59.07Punkie`i do not think so
20:59.29Punkie`but it stops a lot of the gold spam messages
21:01.22neeneeA message to the spammers is often pointless, as they spam and leave immediately
21:01.30Punkie`true
21:01.49tripoodIt is especially to prevent the contact with the opposing faction.
21:02.03Punkie`i see
21:02.06Punkie`just dont reply? :P
21:02.38tripoodi want the last word yea
21:02.40tripood:D
21:03.46tripoodexemple : You want a real battle ? okay noob ! | this is an automatic message : i ignore you.
21:08.41Punkie`yeah lol
21:08.42Punkie`i know
21:09.57Lucifearckknight: have a look at banzai alert
21:12.49vid`http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255423,00.html
21:12.52vid`lol.
21:13.32neeneehehe
21:13.42shieldbdid banzai change at some point to not do the 'red glow around the edges of the screen' style notification?
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21:27.49durcynshieldb: the code's still there, make sure you have flash turned on
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21:30.53OverloadUT|Phoneyay it works
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21:42.34shieldbdurcyn, ahh, yeah looks like it still works just fine - I was thinking that the health frame flash was my 'self' unitframe instead of the red glow around the edges (which happens to be named LowHealthFrame)
21:47.12Uhuru`Hi, someone knows an add on to control winamp while playing wow ?
21:48.35Arrowmasterwinamp global hotkeys
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21:49.36JensHaha... Winamp.
21:50.15ckknighthey all
21:51.00Uhuru`buttons to change track in wow ui should be cool
21:51.48Uhuru`hey ckknight
21:52.26Uhuru`how are you ?
21:52.51ArrowmasterUhuru`: not possible
21:53.00Arrowmasteruse global hotkeys
21:53.13Uhuru`:(
21:54.10ckknightthis is neat: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/4347/low-health-warning/
21:54.13ckknightI want to steal it
21:54.43Uhurushadow priest seems don't like the last update lol
21:55.08ckknighthrm?
21:55.47Uhurushadow priest are nerfed in the last update
21:56.49Uhurusctd do approximately the same thing ckknight
21:56.55ckknightreally?
21:56.59ckknightapproximately?
21:57.03ckknightwhat does approximately mean?
21:57.05ckknightand I don't use SCT
21:57.11Uhurusound warning when mana or life is low
21:57.14OverloadUT|Workckknight: That is pretty cool, I shall download it
21:57.19ckknightnot just about sound warning.
21:57.22ckknightit's about screen flash
21:57.25OverloadUT|WorkSound yes, but the graphic is what's cool
21:57.30ckknightI think I'm going to steal it, as an exercise
21:57.39OverloadUT|WorkI saw those graphics when I unpacked the game art actually, I was wondering what they were for
21:57.43Uhurui think you can configure shown warning too
21:57.45ThraeUhuru: Were they nerfed across the board, or were the talent trees changed so shadow priests can't heal as well?
21:58.04Arrowmastershadow priests were barely touched
21:58.13ckknightThrae: they just added Imp. Shadowform
21:58.17ckknightit turns you into a warlock
21:58.30durcynno crits on VT is significant
21:58.33durcyner VE
22:00.49UhuruTheKarn http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
22:00.49ThraeThe talent trees for Priests still a good overhaul. It's very simple -- nerf base healing and damage by 20%, increase healing and damage from respective talent trees by 20%.
22:00.50Thraes/healing/healing and absorb/
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22:01.28ThraeThe main problem with Priests has always been Holy and especially Shadow does too much damage for their healing and absorb
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22:03.20Uhuruthey will "loose" three talents points to reduce aggro from shadow speels with this update
22:04.06neeneeBut I doubt most had that anyway
22:04.08ThraeI'm talking PvP too.
22:04.38JensWhen I got tired of healing with my priest, I rolled a mage. Priest dps is a sad situation.
22:04.40Arrowmasterbut shadow priests with that talent have the most threat reduction of any class currently dont they?
22:05.12Uhuruyes
22:05.23Uhuruso i think this is a normal nerf
22:06.27Uhurushadow priest shouldn't get a good dps and gain mana + heal ...
22:07.24KarlThePaganif you use VT, VE and all of the UN-nerfed threat recuctions you are at a flat 3% threat reduction
22:07.35KarlThePagan20% for silent resolve, 25% for shadow affinity
22:07.50KarlThePaganbut + 2.5% times the number of mana users in your party
22:08.41KarlThePaganthen + 15% times the number of group members not at full life in your party
22:09.19KarlThePaganthe threat from mana / healing is perfectly offset by the threat reductions
22:09.22KarlThePaganbut not anymore
22:09.30KarlThePaganshadow priests will just stop healing
22:09.53KarlThePaganand still end up with 25% threat reduction which is better than any caster class
22:11.31Arrowmasterwhats silent resolve being changed to?
22:11.44Arrowmasteronly holy spells or only healing?
22:11.47kenlyricdoesn't affect shadow spells
22:11.57kenlyricholy, disc, anything.
22:11.59Uhurubut maybe now they will aggro if they make too much heal + mana with VE + VT if they don't take silent resolve
22:12.20Uhuruall except shadow spells Arrowmaster
22:12.36JensBut they didn't stack before, did they?
22:12.40KarlThePaganhas that been tested on the test server?
22:12.44Arrowmasteri doubt the tooltip says 'except shadow' on ptr
22:12.48Uhurui don't know
22:13.04kenlyricdon't know what the tooltip says. That's what the patch note says.
22:13.05KarlThePaganbecause VE and VT are both shadow spells... so that kinda goes against the patch notes if silent resolve affects them
22:13.06Uhuru"Silent Resolve" no longer reduces threat generated by Shadow spells.
22:13.11kenlyricNo longer affects shadow spells
22:13.24Arrowmasterim just wondering if maybe it still works on all healing meaning VE
22:13.34Uhuruso all except shadow spells is the same thing ;)
22:13.45Uhuruyes
22:13.50kenlyricno, doesn't work on shadow spells. VE is shadow :)
22:13.51KarlThePaganthey'd have to make VE a discipline spell
22:14.02Uhuruit don't work on damage make by shadow spells
22:14.12KarlThePaganhealing causes threat too
22:14.15KarlThePagannot just damage
22:14.26Uhurubut it works whith healing and mana make by VE & VT
22:14.35KarlThePaganyou tested that?
22:14.38Uhurui think
22:14.48kenlyricit doesn't say damage. It says threat. caused by shadow spells. That's all shadow spells. Trust me on this one.
22:14.59KarlThePaganI tend to agree
22:15.04Uhuruno but it seems logic
22:15.05kenlyricSilent resolve is a useless spell to take if you stay in shadowform.
22:15.15KarlThePaganit's only logical if you're not a programmer
22:15.18kenlyrics/spell/talent/
22:15.32KarlThePaganexcept for the dispel resistance
22:15.38kenlyricI expect to see lots of raiding shadow priests with imp shield :)
22:15.43Arrowmasterbut you have to remember, the developers are not the ones that write the patch notes
22:15.43Uhurukenlyric i think it reduce threat generate by healing and + mana make by VE & VT
22:15.46kenlyricoh, that's true.
22:16.26KarlThePaganUhuru, I think I'm going to need to test it before I believe that statement
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22:17.06Uhuruif not i think this is a hard nerf
22:17.11ThraeQuick Druid Fix for Tanking: Change Lacerate to a special bleed that far less mobs are immune to, yet still gets normal Bleed bonuses.
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22:17.31kenlyricIt's not possible the way the game is made for that talent to reduce threat on VE and not on Mind Flay.
22:17.32KarlThePaganif silent resolve still affected VE/VT it would be trivial
22:17.37kenlyricunless they name the specific spells.
22:17.49KarlThePaganI wouldn't be suprised if they did kenlyric ;)
22:17.51kenlyricIf it fails tor reduce threat on a Shadow spells, that's ALL shadow spells.
22:18.01kenlyricyeah, they could always change it.
22:18.13KarlThePaganbut ... the most likely thing is that it won't care about VE/VT
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22:18.32kenlyricIt can't not care about it.
22:18.50KarlThePaganwell... by that I mean silent resolve won't affect them :P
22:18.52mjchmm
22:19.04mjc~seen athou
22:19.25purlathou <n=Pouet_@32.62-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 9h 48m 35s ago, saying: ':('.
22:19.25kenlyricah, ok :)
22:19.31mjcdamn
22:19.37KarlThePaganI'm gonna level my warrior and warlock to 70 anyways :P
22:19.42mjcenchantlist doesn't show mats for oilsa n such
22:19.43de|kipquestion: exists an fubar plugin which shows the current ap value?
22:19.46kenlyricit seems pretty clear that htey don't wnat double threat reduction.
22:20.02kenlyricshadow threat reduction talent affects all shadow abilities.
22:20.17kenlyricSo silent resolve shouldn't... in there eyes.
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22:20.25KarlThePaganyea... most casters are lucky to get 12% threat reduction
22:20.26kenlyric*their
22:20.35KarlThePaganand shadow priests will still have twice that
22:20.40KarlThePaganmoonkin and shamans get none
22:21.09kenlyricplus, they're buffing the final rank of Fade by 25%!
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22:21.21kenlyricman, I hope that doesn't get reduced on pTR :)
22:21.24KarlThePagan<PROTECTED>
22:21.43UhuruKarlThePagan shadow spells damage and heal / mana giving by shadow spells are two differents things
22:21.48kenlyricshadow priests got the shaft, but holy priests got the woot!
22:21.50KarlThePaganUhuru, prove it
22:22.03KarlThePaganthat will be 25% more nothing I can do about mob gonna eat my face
22:22.06kenlyricUhuru: if it said "shadow damage" I'd agree with you.
22:22.09kenlyricIt says "shadow spells"
22:22.28UhuruKarlThePagan i can't but i think so ... need testing ;)
22:22.37KarlThePaganUhuru, yea that's all I want :P
22:22.45kenlyricfor instance, I used to be able to cast "holy" spell in Spirit of Redemption. But they changed that to "Healing" spells.
22:22.45KarlThePaganI'll probably log on the PTR tonight
22:22.59kenlyricbig difference. Can't cast abolish disease or resurrection anymore.
22:23.09KarlThePagansux
22:23.23kenlyricand intended, since they increased the time to 15 seconds, they didn't want us battle rezzing :)
22:23.30KarlThePaganyea lol
22:23.32kenlyricto home!
22:24.58Uhurudruid in tree form can't cast abolish poison and abolish malediction :/
22:25.27KarlThePaganwhat school are those? that's kinda lame
22:25.27Thrae"Abolish Malediction"?
22:26.12ThraeAbolish Poison and Remove Curse are both Resoration, but the Restoration spells a Druid can cast are limited.
22:27.25Thraes/limited/limited in Tree Form/
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22:29.20UhuruThrae i'm french and i don't know all english spells name ^^
22:29.50ThraeUhuru: I wasn't critizing you.
22:29.58KarlThePaganoh wait... i'm wrong - elemental shamans do get 10% threat reduction
22:30.25Uhurui know i just explain why i saided that ;)
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22:33.36OverloadUT|PhoneI wonder how fast being in this channel drains my phone batteries...
22:39.50Uhurudoes a buff monitor for ag_unitframes exist ?
22:40.43Uhurui need one to replace healbot by aguf + click2cast + buffmonitor ;)
22:43.53BarbanusHmmmm
22:43.59BarbanusThe new armory seems cool
22:44.00BarbanusAbout Advertisements
22:44.00BarbanusAs you know, we provide all this for free but we do place ads on your site. If you'd like to get rid of the ads, consider upgrading to one of our premium services. We're sure to have a package that suits your needs.
22:44.05Barbanusoops, wrong paste :(
22:44.13Barbanushttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/
22:44.18nymbiaBarbanus: if only it worked
22:44.33Barbanusnymbia, I think you need to login and then log out of the game .. could be wrong tho
22:44.45nymbiaBarbanus: the database keeps going down
22:45.13Barbanusnymbia, lol how do you know that? :P
22:45.22Barbanusits working for me .. except my char screen being blank
22:45.29Barbanusbut I can search for arena teams, etc
22:45.58Finhola
22:46.07nymbiaBarbanus: well my arena team's w/l record is "- NaN"
22:46.19Stephmwmeh. the guild stuff doesn't show anything in FF
22:46.37nymbiaStephmw: it works just fine when its up
22:47.33Arrowmasterlol?
22:47.35ArrowmasterIn order to have your lifetime honorable kills displayed, you must have at least 1337 honorable kills.
22:47.39BarbanusThe Armory supports Internet Explorer (version 6.0 and up), Opera 9, and Safari. However, the Armory is best experienced with Firefox.
22:47.46Barbanusgogo firefox!
22:48.51Barbanushmmmm
22:48.55Barbanuslooks like the EU one works
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22:48.59Barbanusbut the US one doesnt
22:49.07BarbanusI can see characters on the EU one
22:50.56Barbanusyea, EU arena teams show too
22:50.57Barbanusdammit
22:51.01Barbanusnerf EU
22:51.01Arrowmasterthats cool, i searched for my char name and even though theres 2 pages of results because i used the random name generator, my char is the top one
22:51.04Barbanusbuff US
22:51.32BarbanusArrowmaster, it seems to give level 70 chars priority
22:51.57Arrowmasteryeah i know, 2 lvl 70s with same name but mines still the top one =)
22:52.22nymbiaWTF there's two other nymbias.. now i'm pissed.
22:52.44FeldiaI can't get any of it to load
22:52.48Feldiamakes me very sad :(
22:52.48OverloadUT|WorkDude there are 10 pages of Garlics!
22:52.51BarbanusMAN, that looks awesome
22:52.51Stephmwnymbia: you get something other than wooden boards on this link? http://armory.wow-europe.com/#guild-info.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&n=Synergy&p=1
22:52.56BarbanusFeldia http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Jaedenar&n=Barbanus
22:53.03BarbanusEU seems to be working
22:53.08nymbiaStephmw: nope.  like i said it's down ;)
22:53.11Barbanus(Thats not me btw ...)
22:53.15Stephmwnymbia: ahh, I misread
22:53.22Feldiaoh yea
22:53.25Feldiathe eu one loads
22:53.27Feldiabut not the NA
22:53.28Feldiacool
22:53.36Barbanuswell at least I can see what it looks like :P
22:53.41Feldiawell, slowly
22:53.51Barbanusit was quick for me
22:54.58Feldiawow Barbanus
22:55.00Feldiaget to work on that rep
22:55.01Feldiajeez
22:55.11Feldia:P
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22:58.15nymbiathat'll be really cool
22:58.21nymbiaonce it works right
22:59.43BarbanusFeldia, thats not me :P
22:59.49BarbanusI just typed Barbanus into the EU one
22:59.53BarbanusI'm on a US server
23:00.07Barbanusrenchap, its powered by XML
23:00.28Feldiaahh I see
23:00.30BarbanusYou could easily write soemthing to use their XML feeds to display it however you cant
23:00.34Barbanuswant*
23:01.00Feldiaapparently it's live updates right now
23:01.09Feldiawonder how long before the entire system crashes
23:01.32renchapFeldia: nop
23:01.32vid`us one works
23:01.34vid`for me anyway
23:01.43renchapmy priest is 62, displayed as 61
23:01.44vid`that site rocks
23:01.48vid`good web design team whoever did it
23:02.03Arrowmasterits just slow as hell
23:02.09vodrinwoo i'm the only vodrin
23:02.25vodrinand its quite impressive
23:02.28Feldiahurm
23:02.34Barbanusvid, it does rock
23:02.42Barbanusdid you try to click on a character vid?
23:02.48vodrinjust needs to be less clogged ;p
23:02.51vodrinworked for me
23:03.08vid`oh there we go yea
23:03.10vid`my char came up
23:03.13vid`clicked on it and just get the wood
23:03.15Arrowmasteri cant get the the arena ladder to display only a certain realm
23:03.24nymbiaman.. that other nymbia.. i'm temped to roll horde on his realm an lay the smack down.  you can't steal my name and roll a human male warlock with it.  that's just not right.
23:03.31vid`i would guess its under dev :P
23:03.40vid`since it says beta!
23:03.40vid`hehe
23:03.49vid`im so smart
23:03.50Prophis there a mod that displays who has you targeted??
23:03.51Feldiaguild listings not working for anyone else?
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23:04.47vodringuild listings worked for me too
23:05.32vid`it must just have a lot of load
23:05.40vid`cause sometimes when i search i get nothing but the wood
23:05.47vid`if i hit search 3 or 4 times tho my name will show up
23:05.48kergothdamn, that armory kicks ass indeed
23:05.53vid`yea
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23:06.55KemayoIt'd be nicer if viewing characters or guilds worked for me, but...
23:07.34kergothpfft, you and your high expectations
23:07.41kergothwanting things to "work" and all
23:07.43KemayoI know, I know, I'm never happy.
23:07.47kergoth:)
23:08.14Gnarfoz_damn character profiles look hot oO
23:09.21KemayoIt's a very nice use of xslt, I must admit.
23:09.21Sparhawkehow have you guys even gotten it to load
23:09.32KemayoSparhawke: We're better than you.
23:09.40KemayoDuh.
23:09.56NightHawkTheSaneIt makes me sad that there are 3 pages of characters with the same name as mine. ><
23:10.06KemayoNightHawkTheSane: Four pages for me. :D
23:10.20NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: lol, well that makes me feel a bit better. :)
23:10.36vid`nice being able to see the ladder
23:10.40vid`for your battlegroup
23:10.43KemayoIt's my own fault for accepting a short name suggested by the random generator.
23:12.18kergothyea, i shouldnt have used the random generated one either
23:12.32Arrowmastertrying to look at my friends 2v2 team and its saying 5v5
23:13.07Gnarfoz_how'd you see the source code of those pages?
23:13.18Gnarfoz_it's only 4 lines of ... XML I guess? for me
23:13.26Arrowmasterthe name i wanted was already taken so i used a random generated one, doesnt look like its taken anymore, wish i could rename
23:13.45sylvanaarxslt is very cool
23:14.16vid`noooooooooooooooooooooo
23:14.17vid`lol
23:14.19vid`my UI is fucked
23:14.27sylvanaardont blame me
23:14.27vid`BT3 reset sv i guess
23:14.29vid`:P
23:14.34KemayoGnarfoz_: Look at the XSLT stylesheet referenced in the source.
23:14.40vid`all my bars are sprawled out
23:14.41vid`damnit
23:14.47KemayoGnarfoz_: That's http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/layout/pageIndex.xsl
23:14.47vid`i just spent an hour rearranging them last night
23:14.49vid`hehe
23:15.11sylvanaarlrn2backupyourWTFfolder
23:15.18vid`well
23:15.21vid`if the sv reset
23:15.24vid`theres prob a good reason
23:15.24Gnarfoz_hm, that's quite short and contains none of the content
23:15.25Gnarfoz_:\
23:15.25KemayoGnarfoz_: Which pulls in includes.xsl, which does most of the heavy lifting.  page.xsl seems to lay out most of the source of the page.
23:15.30vid`it doesnt reset on its own
23:15.33vid`:P
23:16.27renchapKemayo: and do you find the .xml with the data ?
23:16.32renchapstill searching ^^
23:16.46KemayoI'm still looking.  I think it'll be in one of the javascript files, though...
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23:17.56renchapseems to be http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jaedenar&n=Barbanus&lang=
23:18.11renchapbut with a special referer or something
23:19.34Kemayorenchap: That seems to be it.  What else are you looking for?
23:19.40renchaphttp://perso.renchap.com/header.txt
23:19.51renchapthis returns the data
23:20.03renchapfirebug > * !
23:20.13renchapit displays all requests done with javascript
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23:21.00Kemayorenchap: The link you gave seems to work to get the xml file, though.  No special effort required...
23:22.01KemayoI mean, it shows all purdy in the browser because of the XSLT, but it's just the raw data if you view source.
23:22.14renchapnot here
23:22.32hachihey, I'm a bit stuck... I can't find the basepath for svn checkouts... svn page on the wiki says to read the rules first... read the rules, but the project pages adn the svn page make no reference to the basepath
23:22.34renchapi get this with wget : http://perso.renchap.com/character-sheet.xml%3fr=Jaedenar&n=Barbanus&lang=
23:24.07renchapthats now the referer
23:24.09renchaplets try cookies
23:25.50Kemayorenchap: Interesting.  It's possible that they're selectively serving raw XML+XSLT or server-translated HTML output depending on browser type.
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23:26.02Gnarfoz_hm, bug: guilds/charnames that contain ä, ö, ü and so on are not displayed as links, although they are returned as search results
23:26.18Kemayorenchap: Try having wget give its useragent as whatever-Firefox-does?
23:27.28hachianyone? Trying to find the subversion base path info... it's not listed on any page I see
23:27.39kergothbase path info?
23:27.39hachitried "SVN" and the project
23:27.41Gnarfoz_? svn.wowace.com/wowace/ ?
23:27.46kergothyou mean the url of the repository?
23:28.01kergothdo /not/ check out the entire svn
23:28.03hachiyeah, it's kinda necessary for subversion checkouts, can't believe it's nowhere on the site
23:28.09hachiyes, I said I read the rules page
23:28.16renchap\\o
23:28.19renchapworks
23:29.13hachiis 'svn.wowace.com/wowace/' a svn:// or http or https server? I'll try http first
23:29.21renchaphttp server
23:29.29renchaphttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/
23:29.44renchapKemayo: http://perso.renchap.com/character-sheet.xml%3fr=Jaedenar&n=Barbanus&lang=
23:30.14Kemayorenchap: Yup, that's what I get when I view source in Firefox too. :D
23:30.23renchaphmm... you can even see buffs
23:30.41KemayoIt's pretty awesome.
23:30.49renchapthats bad :(
23:31.01sylvanaarjust be sure not to delete the whole svn
23:31.03renchapcant retrieve good stats if there is buffs
23:31.05sylvanaar=)
23:31.15OverloadUT|Phonelike, current buffs?
23:31.21renchapyup OverloadUT|Phone
23:31.25OverloadUT|Phonefrom when you logged out?
23:31.32KemayoDon't worry, sylvanaar.  You'd have to be really, really dumb to do that.
23:31.32renchapi dont know
23:31.34Kemayo:D
23:31.44renchap<buffs> <spell effect="Increases ranged attack power by 155." icon="spell_nature_ravenform" name="Aspect of the Hawk"/>
23:31.54sylvanaar=D
23:32.05Kemayorenchap: The stats give you the base as an attribute.
23:32.15Kemayorenchap: <strength attack="85" base="66" block="-1" effective="95"/>
23:32.19kergothnice
23:32.25renchapho nice
23:32.26renchapawesome
23:32.40renchap<3 Blizzard
23:33.07OverloadUT|Phoneso does this make ctprofile and the like obsolete?
23:33.15kergothseems like it
23:33.19renchapnop
23:33.31renchapctprofiles is still good
23:33.32KemayoWell, those sites let you make "wishlists" as well.
23:34.02kergothwell, it should at least make obselete the idea of having to upload your saved info.. ctprofile could be driven by that xml data now
23:34.18OverloadUT|Phonehopefully they'll convert to pulling data from Bliz's thing, so you don't have to run an addon
23:34.20kergothbleh
23:34.25OverloadUT|Phonebah
23:34.37OverloadUT|PhoneI type slow on my phone :P
23:34.41kergothhehe
23:35.03renchapi thing we will still need to upload infos
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23:35.20renchapbecause how to display heal/dps/... gear ?
23:35.27renchapyou only have your current stuff
23:35.31KemayoSigns that you are an incredible geek include: having spent more time reading the XSLT and XML output of this nifty new tool than actually using it.
23:36.10Gnarfoz_it's too unstable to actually use it
23:36.11Gnarfoz_:>
23:36.11kergothah, it doesnt provide inventory/bank info? i bet they could add that though..
23:36.11kergothhmm
23:36.14KemayoGnarfoz_: The wow-europe one that renchap linked to is usable.  The US one... not so much.
23:36.15renchapkergoth: i think they will never provide this
23:36.30kergothwhy's that?
23:36.34kergothprivacy?
23:36.44Gnarfoz_Kemayo: as I'm a EU player, I'm already on the EU page. it too blanks out every so often
23:36.45Gnarfoz_;)
23:36.50OverloadUT|Phonei would think so
23:36.56semi-does anyone know of any mods or libraries that can altar the menu when you right click on a unitframe?
23:37.09Gnarfoz_and it can't handle umlauts correctly right now, which is... irritating
23:37.21OverloadUT|Phonethe site only shows people what they could get by inspecting you
23:37.32renchapOverloadUT|Phone: and talents
23:37.35renchapskills
23:37.50renchapreputations
23:38.03OverloadUT|Phoneoh, neat
23:38.28renchapthere is one missing think
23:38.32OverloadUT|Phonehaha
23:38.33renchaplist of your crafts
23:38.44OverloadUT|Phoneahhh
23:38.46vhaarrkergoth: haha, I'm actually writing that right now
23:38.50vhaarrkergoth: for switcher
23:38.51OverloadUT|Phonewould be nice
23:38.52kergothhahah
23:39.15kergothdoes the armory update on the fly while you're in game?
23:39.17OverloadUT|Phoneshould be able to do it as an itemrack event
23:39.18renchapcan somebody test if it works when logout ?
23:39.26renchapor if it is cached ?
23:39.30renchapmy char wont load :(
23:40.20renchap500 Internal Server Error
23:40.26kergothah, main page of armory says it is updated in real time
23:40.28renchapwhen there is ' in the server name
23:40.35kergothhahah
23:41.57renchaphmm... i have a lot of err 500
23:42.01renchaphttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Uldaman&n=Ayde
23:42.27renchapok it works
23:42.29Gnarfoz_lol
23:42.37Gnarfoz_blizzard CMs don't know shit, again
23:42.39Gnarfoz_http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/79214975.htm <-
23:42.40renchaperror 500 = i am fetching data
23:42.55Gnarfoz_cross-faction inspecting, yea... if only that'd still work :D
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23:43.42kergothhehe, that hasnt worked in quite a while
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23:45.49Barbanusregardless
23:45.53BarbanusOH SHIT HORDE
23:45.56BarbanusAlt+tab
23:45.59BarbanusShit son!
23:46.02kergothlol
23:46.02BarbanusHe has epic weapons!
23:46.04BarbanusRUN!
23:46.09renchaplol
23:46.19BarbanusYea .... not gonna happen
23:46.38BarbanusJJSheets, did you read the post?
23:46.40renchaphttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Kael%27thas&n=Voreen => me :)
23:46.43NightHawkTheSanemaybe we'll see entire pauses in bg's, as everyone alt-tabs to inspect the other team! >.>
23:46.53JJSheetswhat post I just logged on...
23:46.57kergothhehe
23:47.05BarbanusJJSheets http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/79214975.htm
23:47.06Gnarfoz_http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/79214975.htm <- that one ;)
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23:47.34BarbanusEven better
23:47.34Gnarfoz_couldn't have seen it, pasted it 1.5min before you came in ;)
23:47.39Barbanus*alt-tab* YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS its a prot warrior!!
23:47.40OverloadUT|WorkThis argument (on the forums) is so stupid
23:47.44vhaarrkergoth: gah, switching on PLAYER_LOGOUT doesn't work
23:47.55kergothit log out you before the gear gets equipped, or..?
23:47.56OverloadUT|WorkSomeone could make an addon that scans everyone you encounter and uploads it to a similar site
23:48.01vhaarrkergoth: yeah
23:48.07kergothdoh
23:48.17BarbanusOverloadUT, easily, yea
23:48.29OverloadUT|Workkergoth: I believe you can hook the quit function
23:48.42OverloadUT|Workkergoth: I've seen other addons do that to do some heavy database operations on log out
23:48.42WobWorkhehe have it return false =)
23:49.22vhaarrPLW doesn't work either.
23:50.01renchap<3 guild statictics
23:50.14Barbanusrenchap, if only US worked...
23:50.59renchapIn order to have your lifetime honorable kills displayed, you must have at least 1337 honorable kills.
23:51.04Gnarfoz_vhaarr: try watching for the '20 seconds until logout' window? (wouldn't work in cities/inns of course :\)
23:51.15vhaarrGnarfoz_: pretty useless then
23:51.22Gnarfoz_indeed 8[
23:51.40Barbanusrenchap, dude
23:51.42sylvanaarwhat are you talking about again?
23:51.45Barbanusyou have too many NE's
23:51.54sylvanaari do stuff on player logout
23:51.56Barbanus40%?!!?
23:51.57BarbanusWTF
23:52.01[dRaCo]just create a macro to switch equipment and logout after
23:52.28sylvanaaroh gear
23:53.00renchapi have a data mining project to do for my school
23:53.07sylvanaaryou should instead, save the gear you want to use in a SV and change at login
23:53.08renchapi think i just found the data ^^
23:53.40Barbanusrenchap, pfft, thats way too easy :P
23:53.48Barbanusread the xml files, use a xml parser
23:53.50Barbanusdone!
23:54.01renchapthats the easy part ^^
23:54.04JJSheetsI hate crappy bug reports.  "Whenever I open my blacksmithing window, WoW crashes."  That's all the info I get?  sheesh...
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23:54.25[dRaCo]hey, that's a lot of information
23:54.32JJSheetsmy ass it is.
23:54.39[dRaCo]way better than: omgwtf, my wow crashes!111
23:54.43JJSheetslol
23:54.49NightHawkTheSanemore than you'd get from most users, im sure
23:54.52ckknighthey all
23:54.57JJSheetsheya
23:54.58BarbanusJJSheets, when I press my mouse, my wow crashesssss
23:55.02BarbanusI have 400 mods
23:55.06JJSheetsrofl
23:55.09Barbanusall of them effecting my mouse presses
23:55.15Barbanusand i last updated in 2004
23:55.19BarbanusfiXXXXXX
23:55.48Gnarfoz_why'd they have to nerf TF again? -.-
23:56.04sylvanaarbecause its time for it to be nerfed
23:56.13[dRaCo]blizz didnt like the thought of it still being one of the best tank swords around
23:56.16renchapTalent Specialization : Hybryd
23:56.18renchap^^
23:56.20BarbanusGnarfoz_, cause it was generating more threat than a 1h 80+ dps weapon?
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23:56.25Gnarfoz_so? :D
23:56.26OverloadUT|WorkJJSheets: I work in a professional QA department. I am surrounded by people use have to adhere to a strict bug-writing format. I work in tech support for said QA department. Despite the fact that these are QA professionals, we STILL get people coming in to our office or emails saying "My console doesn't work."
23:56.28renchap*Hybrid
23:56.31Gnarfoz_it's legendary :\
23:56.51JJSheetsOverloadUT, hahahaha  you poor bastard.
23:57.06BarbanusGnarfoz_, its a legendary from MC ....
23:57.11BarbanusIf it was from Naxx...
23:57.11renchapwho can suggest a list of all your craft ? cant post in the us forum
23:57.14WobWorkno no, it's "It's... wait for it... LEGENDary!"
23:57.19Barbanuswell then I'd agree ... why nerf it?
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23:57.33Barbanusbut .. its not from naxx
23:57.38Gnarfoz_how does it matter where it's from
23:57.39Gnarfoz_>_<
23:57.47Barbanusbecause it is outdated...
23:57.51Gnarfoz_NOW it is
23:57.56JJSheetsAnybody Use Jigsaw running into problems with the latest version?
23:57.56Barbanusa epic from naxx should be better than a leg from MC.
23:57.57Gnarfoz_yes :p after they nerfed it
23:58.11Gnarfoz_it's not epic, though.
23:58.13BarbanusJust look at hand of rag.
23:58.24BarbanusIt was replaced in aq40 loot
23:58.32Barbanuswhy wasnt the thunderfury?
23:58.39Barbanusshould of been...
23:58.44Gnarfoz_should have
23:58.56JJSheetslol
23:58.57Gnarfoz_of? ;P
23:59.05Barbanusso why cry cause now it is ....
23:59.12JJSheetsGnarfoz_, quit picking nits.
23:59.15JJSheetslol
23:59.48Gnarfoz_JJSheets: i'm not, I'm correcting people on spelling mistakes in what is a second language to me :p

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