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00:07.48booneanyone know which raid frames this is? http://www.ctscreens.net/2959
00:08.26NickenyfikenFin: Outland EU, saw a Alliance Fin in Shadowmoon Valley
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00:08.49ag`could be aguf with a custom layout but who knows
00:09.00pastamancerboone: I'm going to guess a custom theme for aguf
00:09.09ckknighthey all
00:09.17evlyo kniggit
00:09.26pastamancerthose health bars look pretty hard to click though
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00:10.32ag`though the way that the crown/raid icon moves the name
00:10.38ag`that doesn't look aguf ish
00:10.45boonethey look devilishly good though, have to find out what they are, look alot better then praid
00:10.52pastamancerah, yeah I didn't notice that
00:11.40cladhaire..
00:11.48cladhaireno ofense but isn't that exaggerating?
00:11.54cladhairenvm,
00:11.56cladhairewhatevs
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00:13.04Kemayorubik: That should be doable.
00:14.30JJSheetslol
00:14.30evlran two full Mechanar with level 1 mutilate
00:14.32ag`boone: no, it's not aguf
00:14.36evlgg me!
00:14.41ckknightgz
00:14.56booneag`, alright, tanks
00:15.15ag`something very alike could be done with a layout
00:15.15GagorianBut mechanar is a joke.. Sick badge farm!
00:15.36ag`but I can tell by the crown/raid target icon and spacing between buffs that it's not
00:15.45ckknightwhat ss are we looking at?
00:16.14booneckknight, http://www.ctscreens.net/2959
00:16.18CIA-1803kemayo * r28833 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua:
00:16.18CIA-18FuBar_QuestsFu:
00:16.18CIA-18* Call Update in ZoneChange to catch it for showing current area quests only.
00:16.18CIA-18* Remember which quests were autowatched between sessions.
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00:16.28Kemayorubik: That should fix it for you.
00:16.35kergothmeh, time to learn the python svn bindings, i'm tired of popening out to the svn binary
00:16.53pastamancerkergoth: the python svn bindings are horrid
00:16.55CIA-1803zuno * r28834 10uabLayout_Pyramid/ (5 files):
00:16.55CIA-18uabLayout_Pyramid: initial commit
00:16.55CIA-18- UnitActionBars support for a pyramid arrangement of the action buttons.
00:18.01kergothpastamancer: svn's api itself seems pretty fugly regardless of what bindings are used, from a brief glance at the perl and python ones
00:18.04kergothheh
00:18.36pastamancerkergoth: yeah, the python bindings are a direct link to the C bindings
00:18.46kergothwhich ones?
00:18.49kergoththere are two
00:18.54kergothpython-subversion and pysvn
00:19.05pastamancerthe "official" ones?
00:19.12CIA-1803zuno * r28835 10uabLayout_Pyramid/uabLayout_Pyramid.toc:
00:19.12CIA-18uabLayout_Pyramid:
00:19.12CIA-18- Updated revision date
00:19.19Amadeowho runs files.wowace.com?
00:19.47pastamancerKaelten does, why?
00:20.31Ominous_i was just looking at the AceConsole code and noticed that the function getkeystring(t, depth) on line 327 is not a local one and was wondering if it was meant to be as it was creating a global which seems un-necessary
00:20.55CIA-1803zuno * r28836 10uabLayout_Pyramid/:
00:20.55CIA-18uabLayout_Pyramid:
00:20.55CIA-18- log template change
00:21.09Arrowmastergetkeystring doesnt look global to me
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00:23.15Ominousit is on the latest svn version?
00:23.34Ominousend
00:23.34Ominousfunction getkeystring(t, depth)
00:23.40sylvanaaranyone heard of a change to lifebloom?
00:23.49sylvanaarmine is blooming double
00:24.18Arrowmasteri did /print getkeystring and it was nil
00:24.46nymbiaOminous: see line 157
00:24.50Ominousyea i just saw
00:25.21nevcairielsylvanaar: maybe it was finally fixed
00:25.31JJSheetsbetter than feeling squishy...
00:25.59break19heh
00:26.54nevcairielsylvanaar: no change for me, still the same
00:28.38Amadeopastamancer: sylvanaar said there's probably a server problem since WAU keeps updating SimpleChatMods each time
00:30.39pastamancerAmadeo: r28011 is the latest version of SimpleChatMods, I don't know why WAU would be trying to update it every time
00:30.57Amadeoyeah, it downloads every time I use it for me
00:31.16pastamancerfind out why WAU thinks it is updated
00:33.23Ominouslol http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/zomgpleasedontdie/ :P
00:35.31ckknightyou misspelled plz
00:37.00Arrowmasterlast time i heard of that happening with WAU the solution was to delete and reinstall the mod
00:40.06CIA-1803sayclub * r28837 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: Update locale koKR
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00:43.34Ominousckk: that wasent me if u were talkinbg about that folder in branches
00:43.52ckknightyea, it's just funny
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00:49.43rubikKemayo: tyvm for the questsfu fix.. i'll check it out in a bit!
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01:09.50CIA-1803neuron * r28838 10nQuestLog/QuestLogFrame.xml: nQuestLog : Removing alt+click = drag again, I'm using that hotkey for collapsing dammit
01:14.31rubikKemayo: i don't think the ZoneChange update works? i exited shattrath city into terokkar forest with "show only current zone" checked and i had to uncheck/recheck it to show terokkar quests
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01:21.25kergothpastamancer: the python svn bindings arent that bad.. pysvn.Client().checkout() isnt that hard.. naturally you have to rely on callbacks due to its asyncronous nature, but thats the way it goes
01:21.52pastamanceroh, that's not as bad as what I looked at
01:22.37kergothmaybe you were using the older one, python-subversion.. it was a direct incarnation of the C api.  pysvn isnt that way
01:22.41kergothstill has quirks, but its tolerable
01:23.03kergothcheck out http://pysvn.tigris.org/docs/pysvn_prog_guide.html
01:24.12pastamanceryeah, I was looking at python-subversion I guess
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01:30.16OverloadUTFuck unscheduled restarts :(
01:30.31OverloadUTHad the best group I've ever been in :(
01:30.49OverloadUTWith like 10 minutes too few to finish BRD
01:30.53OverloadUTWe had done EVERYTHIN
01:37.54xyuhmm actually they said they would be doing rolling restarts
01:39.30Barbanuswhy are they restarting?
01:39.33Barbanuslike wtf
01:39.41xyucritical software update"
01:39.42Barbanuswhat requires an "urgent fix"?
01:39.48xyuheh yeah i dont know
01:40.31Barbanusand an urgent fix on ony like 20 realms
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01:52.13CIA-1803rabbit * r28839 10Violation/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Violation: Remove the local heaps from the modules and create some prototype heap methods instead, in order to reduce the overall module size - sacrificing some speed, yes, but meh.
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01:57.42OverloadUTThey may have "said" they were going to, but it didn't say that on the login screen when I logged in a few hours ago ;(
02:05.13OverloadUTOh well my group rocks so hard we're doing the whole thing again
02:05.27NightHawkTheSaneHm, anyone around who has a relatively high level shaman?
02:06.24NeoTronis 60 relatively high
02:06.25NeoTron?
02:06.54NightHawkTheSaneyeah
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02:07.07Gamefaqhiho
02:07.09NightHawkTheSanei just want to know what you use to manage your totems.
02:07.45NightHawkTheSaneI've got a 4x6 block of action buttons that I use, and just rearrange them based on the situation, and click to cast them, but that really annoys me. ><
02:08.31NeoTronnothing unfortunately
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02:08.53NeoTronlast I looked, before 2.0 (this isnot a char I play much) I failed to find an addon
02:09.06NeoTronkergoth mentioned something some tiem in the past but I don't recall what it was
02:09.25NeoTronbasically I just have normal action bar buttons and it drives me nuts :P
02:09.39NightHawkTheSaneso you're in the same place as me, okay :)
02:10.17NeoTronafraid so
02:14.19sylvanaarwow something is really bogging down in WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame
02:16.15CIA-1803wobin * r28840 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: Fixed single word filters so it matches on either the whole word or as a prefix
02:19.54CIA-1803wobin * r28841 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: Cleaned up debugging
02:26.06snurre*sigh* the drop rate on the wand from second boss in shadowlabs is so damn low :/
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02:31.37CIA-1803sylvanaar * r28842 10Prat/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: Optimized the SetPoints calls for flowing text around the chat buttons
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02:37.41NightHawkTheSanesnurre: probably just bad luck, it's dropped about a third of the time i've been there :P on the other hand, I've only seen the tank trinket drop once.
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02:42.00harldephinhm. my dreamchat window moved up outside the screen and i can't move it back down. *g*
02:42.04Nargiddleyvhaarr, ping
02:42.50Nargiddleyvhaarr, http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6302/waterfallsectionsnz2.jpg is working now. anything else you wanted for BigWigs ?
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02:48.20CIA-1803sylvanaar * r28843 10Prat/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: Remove the code that was optimized otherwise optimizing it makes it less optimal
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02:51.18pb_ee1!google type
02:51.26Feldial
02:51.26Feldia[16:33:29] <joker`afk> the spawn rate/amount of spawns was bad enough
02:51.26Feldia[16:50:43] <N|sticker> what?
02:51.28Feldiaerrrrrr, sorry
02:51.35Feldiahttp://dymo.net/users/ommand/Patch.txt
02:51.40Feldiapatch notes for anyone who cares
02:52.11ilifinofficial?
02:52.23CIA-1803nargiddley * r28844 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua:
02:52.23CIA-18Waterfall-1.0:
02:52.23CIA-18- new :Register() option - 'treeType' defaults to 'TREE' same as current
02:52.23CIA-18- 'treeType', 'SECTIONS' will give an explorer side pane style interface.
02:52.32Feldiastraight out of my wowtest folder
02:52.35Feldiaso pretty official :P
02:57.42NightHawkTheSaneas noted in that same file, the patch notes are ALSO available on the wow website :P
02:59.08Feldiathey weren't at the time of me posting that!
02:59.09Feldiabut yea
02:59.09Feldiahttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
02:59.10snurreNightHawkTheSane: about that wand.. i got exalted with lower city on tuesday, ive done one heroic + 1-4 normal runs per day since then.. still havent seen it dropped
03:02.04NightHawkTheSanehm... '"Stoneclaw Totem" now has a 50% chance to stun attackers for 3 sec. when struck.' did they finally make this useful for something other than running away from mobs? o_0
03:02.44NightHawkTheSane'"Thunder Clap is now useable in Defensive Stance." WOOOOO!
03:03.10NightHawkTheSanewow, i really like a lot of the changes they made
03:03.31ilifinFeldia, is the PTR live?
03:05.09Feldiayes it is
03:05.21ilifinhope the european one is too
03:05.25pastamancerNightHawkTheSane: ooooh
03:05.52ilifinit would seem not, no patch there yet
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03:10.40snurre2.0.10 is fapsome for warrs
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03:15.44ag`22.0.10 sucks
03:15.44rubikfapsome?
03:16.01ag`220 second cooldown on PoM
03:16.04ag`2what the fuck?
03:17.22NightHawkTheSanesnurre: agreed. :)
03:18.05rubikRIP feral druids
03:18.07rubikwow
03:18.23NightHawkTheSanebah, feral druids will be fine
03:19.09rubikjust slight nerfing (as expected), actually..
03:19.09xyuwhere are these notes?
03:19.24NightHawkTheSanexyu: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
03:19.31xyuohhh
03:19.32xyuthx thx
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03:20.19NightHawkTheSanerubik: yeah, a slight nerf, but as you said, expected, and primarily to bear tanks, not kitty dps. I think bear tanking will remain effective, though
03:20.30rubikyup
03:21.20snurreabout time they fixed thunderclap at least
03:22.01snurreand the rage fix is just lol.. first they go "just wait and see, when you get epics at 70, it will be fine" before they now realized "oops, you were right.."
03:22.07CIA-1803fatherjim * r28845 10loudmouth/loudmouth.lua:
03:22.07CIA-18loudmouth:
03:22.07CIA-18- update to remove some debug messages during combat
03:22.15NightHawkTheSanesnurre: tell me about it, it's bad enough stance dancing into ~20% more damage to avoid fears, but every 30s for TC as well was a real pain
03:22.19ckknighthey all
03:22.33snurreit's fixing the entire problem for guilds who dont have TFs
03:22.43NightHawkTheSaneyeah, that too
03:22.44ilifinnerfing TF was needed imo
03:22.45NavvTF got tuned
03:22.50Navvso yea
03:22.52NightHawkTheSane<-- no tf, either
03:23.19snurremy guild has suffered greatly since we never got a TF
03:23.31snurredid MC for 18 months without a single completed TF
03:23.33snurreonly right bindings
03:24.03CIA-1803next96 * r28846 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:
03:24.03CIA-18Cartographer_Waypoints :
03:24.03CIA-18- Update locale koKR
03:26.01ilifinwe got so many right bindings that we got a priest's alt rogue with one, snurre
03:29.17Kaelten-Laptopanyonerecommend a good hunter mod?
03:29.27vodrinPrayer of Mending now has a 20 second cooldown.
03:29.30vodrin>.<
03:29.45vodrin2.0.10 patch notes are scary
03:30.15ilifin[04:29:42] <vodrin> Prayer of Mending now has a 20 second cooldown.  <- WHAT?
03:30.28ilifinwhere does this say
03:30.32xyuyeah, priests got stuck
03:30.34ilifinor is it "unmentioned"
03:30.36xyuw/ a few nerfs
03:30.39xyuno it's in there
03:30.45xyuunder the priests catagory
03:30.57snurretheyre nerfing VE, silent resolve and PoM
03:31.11ilifindoesn't say in the notes I got O_o
03:31.18hyperChipmunkglad they didn't change my health buffs the way they did feral dr00d
03:31.32hyperChipmunkunless it's not on the notes
03:31.42xyuhow is PoM nerfed though?
03:31.50hyperChipmunki should still be +15% max
03:31.51Navv20sec cooldown
03:31.58xyu?
03:32.04xyuoh oh
03:32.06ilifin20 sec cd on PoM is horribl
03:32.06xyuprayer of mending.
03:32.06Navvyou cast it on someone
03:32.09xyui'm a mage...
03:32.10hyperChipmunk# Prayer of Mending now has a 20 second cooldown.
03:32.15xyuso when you say PoM i think pressence of mind
03:32.15Navvand after 20seconds, you can cast it again!
03:32.18xyui'm like 20 seconds?
03:32.19xyuGREAT
03:32.38xyu20 second pressence of mind would be imba :P
03:33.00ilifinstill that is one annoying nerf
03:33.10Lysitheaannoying?
03:33.19ilifinyes
03:33.20Lysitheait's /death to arenapriests
03:33.26ilifinit was godly in arena
03:33.41ag`2The funny thing is
03:33.50ag`2did anyone even think priests should be nerfed?
03:33.55ilifin"Warpscale Leggings" have had their Crit Rating updated to the intended Dodge Rating.  <-- WHY BLIZZARD, WHY?!?!
03:34.13snurreag`2: shadowpriests? yes.
03:34.16ag`2It's more like, every talent skill you can take in either holy or disc sucks so hard and is not worth taking
03:34.21Lysitheawithout pom... why should we even be in a arena?
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03:34.24ilifinI don't get the "hai druid gear" frenzy blizz is one
03:34.37ilifin*insanely* good legs just got badly nerfed -_-
03:34.47Navvshadow priests should be nerfed some
03:34.48Lysitheatake another palading or shaman instead of a priest
03:34.50Navvand they got some tune now
03:34.56ag`2snurre, not really sure why, rogues and warlocks reams the rear of shadow priests
03:35.28Lysitheaand oh, warriors are gonna have alot of fun with mages nw
03:35.44Lysitheacharge/intercept/intervene breaking roots and all
03:35.51Navvwell, the movement impaired thing isnt going in in the next patch
03:35.52Navvso
03:35.54ag`2strange how they didn't even just change the cooldown on CoS a bit
03:36.11ag`2CoS on one minute is way more broken than PoM spam
03:36.32Lysithea"hell no cause I can only use it 3times vs a holy priest!"
03:36.38Lysithea:(
03:36.40ag`2:P
03:36.45Lysitheaoh well
03:36.52ag`2and what the fuck is up with silent resolve
03:36.57Lysitheahunter warr mage waiting for me to lvl them up
03:37.00Navvthat was the shadow priest tune
03:37.03Navvsilent resolve
03:37.44ag`2god forbid that shadow priests got some pvp utility from a pve talent
03:37.55vodrindruids got raped too =p
03:38.01vodrin430% -> 400% armor
03:38.10Navv450 ->
03:38.11vodrin25% health increase -> 25% stam increase
03:38.18vodrintalents
03:38.28vodrinsorry =x
03:38.32vodrin450 is right!
03:38.37vodrinThe critical damage bonus on "Predatory Instincts" reduced from 3/6/9/12/15% to 2/4/6/8/10%.
03:38.45vodrincrit bonus snaggled down
03:38.59hyperChipmunkyea, i hope they didn't do that to my hunter +health% talents too
03:39.18vodrinnothing mentioned for hunters/rogues
03:39.19hyperChipmunki'm enjoying running around with 11khp and no dungeon gear or anything
03:39.26vodrinthey've tweaked arena points too
03:39.28ckknightwhere is this changelog you're all talking about?
03:39.35vodrinincreasing one-handed weapon costs
03:39.36snurrehttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
03:39.37ilifinckknight  http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
03:39.44ckknightthank you
03:39.46vodrin"Thunder Clap" is now useable in Defensive Stance. In addition, the tooltip has been adjusted to indicate it causes additional threat.
03:39.49vodrinis interesting =p
03:39.55ilifinit's goodie
03:39.59Navvwas expected
03:40.03vodringiving warriors an aoe agro move back
03:40.05Navvthat was the only thing
03:40.12Navvi was pretty much 100% sure that would change
03:40.22vodrinThe rage normalization equation has been adjusted to grant more rage. The typical warrior should see an increase of 15% to 20% in their rage generation.
03:40.25vodrinand more rage
03:40.29vodrinand +1% crit base added
03:40.30NightHawkTheSaneand more crit
03:40.38vodrinso they buffed warriors and nerfed feral druids
03:40.39NightHawkTheSanevodrin: well, ~1% more crit, probably depending on agility
03:40.42chutwigi am insanely giggly about druids getting nerfed
03:40.48NightHawkTheSanelikely, they just adjusted the agi:crit ratio for warriors
03:40.55vodrinit says 'all' NightHawkTheSane
03:41.06vodrinsounds like its a fixed +1% to base crit imo
03:41.13NightHawkTheSane.....
03:41.45NightHawkTheSanethe wording is vague, but the way it's done implies that it will not be the same for every warrior
03:41.56vodrinmaybe you're right =o
03:41.59vodrin"Nethershrike" now has the proper sell value and can be disenchanted.
03:42.03NightHawkTheSaneas I said, more than likely, the agi:crit ratio for warriors was changed slightly, giving warriors a bit more crit.
03:42.08Navvi would imagine it's agi:crit ratio es
03:42.10vodrini just came out a mechanar leaving that on the boss =[
03:42.35vodrinThe threat generated from the spell effect on "Thunderfury" has been substantially reduced.
03:42.43vodringuess they don't want people using TF anymore
03:42.49vodrinbuffing thunderclap and that
03:42.54NightHawkTheSaneyes, and no.
03:42.57hyperChipmunkwell
03:42.59NightHawkTheSaneTF was -way- too good
03:43.01Navvit's still a good rogue weapon, afaik
03:43.08hyperChipmunkthey don't want people to think they HAVE to use it
03:43.09Navvand the effect is still very useful
03:43.13NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: exactly
03:43.16vodrinoh an interesting line is
03:43.17hyperChipmunkbecause that's always annoying
03:43.20vodrinThe cost of sockets in high end items has been adjusted slightly, the result is that most high end epic items should see an increase in stats.
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03:43.27snurreIn short: Arena items more expensive. Beartanks nerfed. Priests nerfed. Elemental Shamans buffed. Warriors buffed. Epics with sockets got better.
03:43.32vodrini'm hoping that means tier4/5 reworked a bit
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03:43.43vodrinenhancement buffed too
03:43.49snurrei hope my shadoweave set got buffed too :p
03:43.50Navvweird gear anomalies removed also
03:43.54NightHawkTheSanevodrin: yeah, hopefully my t4 tank legs will be at least marginally better than my timewarden's legplates
03:44.01vodrinindeed
03:44.03Navvlike <70 green shite being a ton better than t3
03:44.07vodrinand i bet the druid shoulders of Laj
03:44.09vodrinsuck bad again =p
03:44.29vodrinReduced the damage dealt by "The Lightning Capacitor".
03:44.51snurrewas needed, it's pretty insane with a scorch mage or critgeared elemental shaman
03:44.57vodrinweird.. they increased it in a past patch though =p
03:45.07vodrinbut yeah.. it was a huge increase in dps for a trinket slot
03:46.05vodrinthey took the fun out of heroic mechanar though, making the big demons un-enslavable :<
03:46.12snurrehehe
03:46.15Navvyeah
03:46.24snurreit's trivializing the instance tho
03:46.34Navvpretty much yes
03:46.36snurrebosses dead in 30secs
03:46.41vodrinindeed, you tanked 'thaddius' and the first two mini bosses with them
03:46.56snurreever tried them on pathaleon? :p
03:46.59vodrinthey pull about 1500dps or so
03:46.59snurrepewpewdead
03:47.03Navvthey are nice for the third boss too
03:47.09vodrinlol never bothered to pull them that far
03:47.15Navvtheyre easy to pull too
03:47.17Navvsince the packs leash ..
03:47.18vodrinalthough panthaleon is pretty silly boss
03:47.21Navvso you can take one at a time
03:47.47vodrinonly have to deal with one set of adds due to the enrage at 20% removing them
03:47.52vodrinif you have ok dps
03:48.09Navvwe usually get 2 sets
03:48.12Navvbut mass fears
03:48.23Navvso the effect is the same, they are a non-factor
03:48.36snurrewith 3 locks with enslaves, you wont get any :p
03:49.27Navvyes but we have only 1 lock :/
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03:50.36snurreim a bit worried for how elemental shamans are gonna be now.. as they are already doing really nice dps
03:51.29vodrinwell they have increased dpm
03:51.36kergothNargiddley, waterfall bug, isnt handling pass=true with the args as toggles.  it isnt showing the current states (no checkmarks)
03:51.37vodrinand less spike threat
03:51.45kergothNargiddley, see the 'ding' module configuration in automaton for an example
03:52.22Nargiddleyyeah pass groups isnt in yet, suprised noones complained sooner heh
03:53.00kergothah, k :)
03:53.04kergothjust making sure you knew
03:53.17kergothpass=true is useful, surprised its not used more often
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03:58.45Nargiddleyhmm, does a pass group get inherited to subgroups and then thier subgroups etc ?
04:00.40Finchutwig's IRC quit message is the best ever
04:00.47Finnever fails to make me laugh
04:01.27Finalso: pizza makes me happy
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04:11.07Daemonahttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
04:11.15Daemonainteresting stuff in there
04:11.59NightHawkTheSanewelcome to an hour ago ;)
04:13.43Daemonayeye, was busy leveling my shadowpriest alt
04:13.53Daemonaand its 5am after all here in good ol europe ;)
04:15.43Finhow odd
04:15.52Finyou can't make files with certain names in Windows
04:16.07Fin"Nul", "Con"
04:16.07Daemonalike... i/o interfaces?
04:16.25Finthey just can't be called "Nul" or "Con"
04:16.38Finhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=184288553&sid=1
04:18.07NightHawkTheSaneFin: there's a few other restricted names too
04:18.08Finthought it sounded like a load of cock at first, but it's right, can't seem to make a file called "Nul", it just reverts back to its old name
04:19.15NightHawkTheSaneFin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename :)
04:19.33Finbeen looking after windows for years and I've never heard of that, I love it when that happens
04:20.18FinNightHawkTheSane: neat. thanks.
04:20.49NightHawkTheSanenp :)
04:23.32deltronhttp://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=22114 <-- lol
04:26.40ilifinoh here it  comes
04:27.00ilifinour friend tseric just posted that the patch notes are errorneous and some of the warrior changes weren't included even though listed
04:27.27deltronyeah i'm reading it now
04:27.52CIA-1803nargiddley * r28847 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Now supports AceOptions pass groups, needs more testing
04:27.57NightHawkTheSaneilifin: >< i knew it was too much to hope for. I Just hope the TC change goes through
04:28.25ilifinTC change goes through
04:28.34ilifinbug charge/intervene/intercept doesn't break snares
04:28.39ilifinFERAL CHARGE however doese
04:28.58ilifins/bug/but/
04:29.05deltronman poor thunderfury :(
04:30.01pastamancerFin: it's a holdover from DOS
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04:30.39Daemonadeltron yeah, now that i got a 10man grp farming garr and geddon with me they nerf it :/
04:31.08NightHawkTheSaneilifin: i can handle any idiot with a snare being able to own a warrior, really, doesnt much change how i tank.
04:31.56ilifinNightHawkTheSane - well, every arenaing warrior I know was having a dancing circle in IF
04:32.05ilifinthen I found tseric's post and they all chain cut themselves
04:32.25NightHawkTheSaneilifin: lol. which they can do more effectively with ~1% more crit and more rage. ;)
04:32.26CIA-1803nargiddley * r28848 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Fix for pass groups on options other than type='toggle'
04:32.29Nargiddleykergoth: try that, was working with the automaton group anyway
04:33.15ilifinNightHawkTheSane - shrug, sucks that every warrior around has QQed so much they forgot how to tank now tho
04:33.22kergothNargiddley, hehe, thanks
04:33.27ilifinNightHawkTheSane - I've been preferring druid tanks every since TBC came out
04:33.28NightHawkTheSaneilifin: not all of us have. :P
04:33.48ilifinwell luckily there's a few left
04:34.12ilifinstill, with the sheer damageoutput I have on my rogue, there wasn't a nonprot warrior able to withstand my damage
04:34.44ilifindid some testing with it in BM, windfury totem, me afk with autoattack and taking aggro from our tank who used every drop of rage he had :S
04:34.57NightHawkTheSaneilifin: well, to be fair, there's something to be said for leashing your damage as well. Not everyone is the perfectly geared and specced tank, regardless of skill ;)
04:35.13deltronDaemona: we were going to farm garr mon/tues
04:35.15ilifinNightHawkTheSane - I don't wanna stop attacking ;_;
04:35.59NightHawkTheSaneilifin: well, you can do that, or you can get 2-shotted. :) I understand, but ultimately its far better to work with the tank then just complain that he cant hold agro :P
04:36.04snurrefeint/vanish, you have them for a reason :p
04:36.31ilifinwell, 40% of a rogue's damage comes from abilities, take away those and I would still take the aggro
04:36.44snurrethen your tank *really* needs to l2p
04:37.09ilifinour maintank throughout naxxramas, I don't think he needs to
04:37.26ilifinthis was however with windfury
04:37.28snurreobviously, if you pull aggro
04:38.06snurreour rogues can't pull aggro even if they try now
04:38.08snurresince we got boS
04:38.24ilifinwell I'm alliance
04:38.29ilifintanks not used to windfury
04:38.36deltronlol
04:38.36snurrethen they need to l2p :p
04:38.40deltronwindfury is ftw
04:38.52snurrewelcome to the pre-tbc world.. "BoS isn't helping as much as you hordes claim" yeah right
04:39.03deltronalliance gets to learn to play with the big boys :)
04:39.24snurrehorde dps has always been purely about threat management
04:39.27snurrenothing else
04:39.37ilifinhah
04:39.38ilifinwell
04:39.49ilifinI'm leveling a shaman and have a 70 warrior mate with lionheart run me through stuff
04:39.59ilifindid ZF earlier and he was laffoing at how many procs he got
04:40.09snurrehe shouldve tried it pre-nerf
04:40.24ilifinnerf? no longer proccing on abilities?
04:40.37snurrewhen it procced on itself, on every WW hit etc
04:40.41ilifinoh
04:40.47ilifinit's possible to break that
04:40.51ilifinhappened to me once
04:40.52FryGuyhmm i thought up a good idea for cartographer
04:40.55ilifinjust *once*
04:41.13ilifinmainhand sword proc, wf proc, offhand sword proc, mh wf proc, sword proc
04:41.23ilifinand then it just broke and I had 20 more procs after one another
04:41.35FryGuya route-planning thing where you can draw a path on the map to support herb/ore farming
04:41.56FryGuyi always forget if the stuff i can see over there was something i already looked at
04:42.00ilifinFryGuy, I suggested that some weeks back when they were implementing the first waypoints but nobody picked up the idea :/
04:42.07NightHawkTheSanedoesn't waypoints support queues of waypoints?
04:42.27ilifinanyway afk
04:42.38NightHawkTheSaneif you mean a click-a-button-get-an-optimal-path type thing, don't hold your breath. that's never going to happen :P
04:43.34weabcould be premade paths
04:43.36FryGuyyes, implement traveling salesman :)
04:43.48weabwork out a good path and hard code it.
04:43.49ilifinI wouldn't mind setting my own routes
04:43.49FryGuywell, specifically i want it to draw the waypoints with a line connecting them
04:43.55ilifinCartographer_WayRoutes plz
04:43.57ilifin:<
04:44.09FryGuyso you could see on your path if you should be going to the left or the right of the herb/ore
04:44.11NightHawkTheSaneuser-definable waypoint queues should, theoretically, be possible.
04:44.35FryGuyyes, but user-definable + showing them on the map :p
04:44.49FryGuyalso, is there a good way to archive your notes?
04:45.07ilifincopy the savedvariables file :p
04:45.08FryGuylike I have all the quests I did marked up, but it's annoying seeing them when I'm doing herb/ore runs
04:45.33NightHawkTheSaneFryGuy: tar -czpf /path/to/SV/file > /path/to/backup.tgz
04:45.39FryGuypssh
04:45.43kergothso toggle that cart module disabled for that period, and re-enable it when you're done
04:45.44FryGuylet me bust out cygwin
04:45.46ilifinFryGuy, manually added questnoes or with cart_quests?
04:45.55FryGuymanually
04:45.59ilifincart_quests atleast removed the ?'s for quests I already did
04:46.22NightHawkTheSaneilifin: imo, you have to do that by default, or its just a mess
04:46.30ilifinofcourse
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04:46.44NightHawkTheSanei only have cart_quests showing active/completed quests, and even that annoys me, because it cant handle quests that dont have the same start point or end point
04:47.17ilifinhaha so true, still is useful tho imo
04:47.23NightHawkTheSaneyeah, no doubt
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04:47.40NightHawkTheSanetheres just some things you'll never be able to handle with that system *shrug* :\
04:47.59ilifinwell
04:48.11ilifinif it picks up data from old characters for goto quests
04:48.20ilifinif you already had done it previous
04:48.33ilifinsort of learning as you level and making way for new character
04:48.51FryGuywell what I did was looked up every quest i had on wowhead and marked the targets with a skull on my map
04:49.28FryGuyfor instance "Quest - Socrethar's Shadow (kill silroth)" "Quest - Searching for Evidence"
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05:00.27NightHawkTheSanehm. i'm sure this has been asked before, but.. what do you all use to put a simple black/textured panel in your interface?
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05:06.53Arrowmastereepanels i think
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05:13.03CIA-1803wobin * r28849 10Splut/ (CircleSplut.lua Splut.lua Splut.toc Splutton.lua): Splut: Added in a state header and chained the buttons so they all have their own viewstates
05:14.21nymbia~seen uruloke
05:14.44purluruloke <n=uruloke@ua-83-227-171-14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 68d 2h 19m 24s ago, saying: 'Well, night people!'.
05:15.31nymbia68 days.. O.o
05:16.37syerenI need a fucking cooldown mod again :(
05:16.43CIA-1803nymbia * r28850 10WhiteboardNG/Core.lua:
05:16.43CIA-18WhiteboardNG:
05:16.43CIA-18- Don't draw the frames up until they're requested by the user or a comm is rcv'd.
05:16.43CIA-18- Fix a little bug in the options table.
05:16.43CIA-18- At a quick glance, this critter could use some major efficiency work. I'll likely work on it if nobody else does, but if anyone's bored and wants a project then have at it.
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05:29.32wobinhehe
05:29.42wobin"RandomPerson: Nerf Druids"
05:30.03wobin"RandomDruid: Sorry, I can't hear you over the bags of money I saved by having a free flight form"
05:30.51Guillotineheh
05:30.59Arrowmasterlol
05:30.59Guillotine1k won't be all that much in the long run
05:31.10Guillotinebut at the moment, ya, its a big benefit
05:31.20Arrowmasteryeah, i know a druid that will probably never have his epic flying mount
05:31.38Aenslaedmeh, the nerf is kinda weird.
05:31.47Guillotineya
05:31.50Aenslaedthey didn't touch cat dps beyond the 5% off impale
05:32.01Guillotinewell, people were complaining about bear dps
05:32.02Aenslaedand I consistantly rank top 5 in dps
05:32.10Arrowmasterbear dps was kinda high
05:32.20GuillotineI agree. but not high enough that they needed to nerf it by 40%
05:32.26Aenslaedand I can shred cloth wearers for 2.5k repeatedly.
05:32.27Guillotinewell, for feral druids
05:32.42GuillotineAenslaed: crit?
05:32.46Aenslaedyeah
05:32.51Aenslaedof course crit ;p
05:33.13Arrowmastermy friend 3shot a 71 air elemental in 2.5 seconds while in cat form
05:33.20Aenslaedbut I have 42% crit in raid situations.
05:33.52Aenslaedprobably. really meaty crits, but the damage range is very large
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05:36.37CIA-1803nymbia * r28851 10WhiteboardNG/Core.lua:
05:36.37CIA-18WhiteboardNG:
05:36.37CIA-18- Kill OnUpdate handler when the frame isn't shown.
05:36.37CIA-18- There's still some once-a-second metro functions running all the time, which
05:36.37CIA-18can probably be killed -- not like that stuff's not throttled on the other end.
05:36.37CIA-18Really, there should only ever be an OnUpdate running when a line is in the
05:36.39CIA-18middle of being drawn.
05:38.30JJSheetsIs there any way to add Tab Completion to a Dewdrop editBox?
05:43.14ckknightnot to my knowledge
05:44.37GuillotineAenslaed: what gear are you in? o.O
05:45.36JJSheetsckknight, thanks, now I know I can drop that function safely....
05:47.29syerenckknight, how exactly should I report a bug which has no bug report >_<?
05:47.40syerenOn cooldowntimers2, the addon just randomly stops counting cooldowns.
05:47.46syerenWhich means I have to restart WOW.
05:48.26nymbia./rl?
05:48.43syerenDoesn't work for some strange ass reason, but either way I shouldn't have to do it.
05:49.24Guillotinehaha, wierd bug. I just posted a tome of arcane brilliance on the AH, the server lagged for a moment (not just me, people posted in general about it). When it stopped, there was both one on the AH from me and one still in my inventory o.O
05:49.49syerenOMG ITEM DUPEZ
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05:58.22NightHawkTheSanehax!
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06:06.51wobinhehe
06:07.04wobinYou see a extremely friendly sounding guild recruitment spiel
06:07.26wobinit comes across all loveydovey "We always welcome friends of friends!" etc
06:07.36wobinand it turns out their name is "Defilers of the Alliance"
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06:09.09JJSheetslol
06:09.25NightHawkTheSanebecause when I think "defile" I always associate that with friendliness, and happiness.
06:09.33JJSheetsyes indeed.
06:11.09CIA-1803jjsheets * r28852 10Omnibus/ (Buttons.tga Omnibus.lua Omnibus.xml): Omnibus: Removed a lot of old code that was not being called after the UI change. Changed the Menu button to use the Omnibus logo.
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06:19.53CIA-1803kemayo * r28853 10AuldLangSyne/ (AuldLangSyne.lua locales/enUS.lua):
06:19.53CIA-18AuldLangSyne: Commit most of a patch from Sekuyo @ Norgannon, untested.
06:19.53CIA-18-Fixes CT PlayerNotes importing.
06:19.53CIA-18-On friend sync *doesn't* try to add the current character as a friend if one of the alts has it on their friends list.
06:20.52KemayoI do wish that people who offer patches would think to themselves "ah, this upstanding addon author named Kemayo uses no semicolons and goes light on parentheses in if statements", and adjust their own coding style to match.
06:21.10JJSheetslol kemayo
06:22.22nymbiaif only
06:23.15Guillotineif (only)
06:23.31KemayoStill, I finally have working CTMod importing again, which is nice.
06:23.45KemayoIt was impressively low on my priority list to fix it myself, after all.
06:23.54JJSheetslol Guillotine
06:24.05Guillotinesomeone got my joke :P
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06:24.36JJSheetsyes but you forgot the ;
06:24.39JJSheetsbwahahahaha
06:24.41nymbiahaha
06:24.41KemayoI didn't notice your joke, I confess.  Missed your statement entirely.  It was a pretty good one, though.
06:25.05nymbiaif (not (not (only) ) ) ;;;
06:25.10JJSheetsthere we go.
06:25.13wobinargh
06:27.36JJSheetsLOTR Online?  How many friggin licensed MMO's does this world need?  Haven't they learned from Matrix Online?  Star Wars Online?  sheesh...
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06:28.36NightHawkTheSaneJJSheets: they learned that people will buy anything
06:28.48JJSheetsoh yeah right... forgot about that...
06:28.57KemayoI've heard quite positive things about LOTRO.
06:29.09KemayoSince the NDA lifted all of yesterday.
06:29.17JJSheetsThe IQ of a mob is equal to the lowest individual IQ divided by the number of people in the mob...
06:29.30Guillotinethere was an interview with the devs in IRC a week or two ago. What I heard sounded intriguing
06:29.40RLD_osxlol... 0.000001
06:29.41TainThe NDA lifted a couple of weeks ago.  
06:29.50TainThere's been lots of information since.
06:30.05KemayoTain: Well, in that case I wasn't paying attention to dates when catching up on blogs today. :D
06:30.08wobinDo they actively kill players who take names similar to the main characters?
06:30.11xyuIs there pvp?
06:30.22TainThe difference with LotRO is that it is actually a solid game.
06:30.31TainMatrix Online was... not.
06:30.41JJSheets"No no, I'm Leggo-Lass... not Legolas!"
06:31.01xyu"Rick the white"
06:31.02JJSheets"BIG DIFFERENCE!"
06:31.12JJSheetslol
06:31.27JJSheets"Dildo Daggins"
06:31.32JJSheetsbwahahahahaha
06:31.42xyui've seen 10 milion sephirioth sepheroth sapheroth sappheroth blood elf males as well
06:32.19TainI've never seen the appeal of making a name that is spelled wrong when you can't get the one you actually want.
06:32.23TainTo me that is just embarassing.
06:32.36JJSheetsTain, try City of Heroes, you'll love it.
06:32.46TainI played CoH and CoV a lot.
06:32.49JJSheetslol
06:33.15JJSheetsThen you know what I'm talking about.  :)
06:33.31TainI know what you're talking about, I just think it is silly.
06:33.39JJSheetsIt is silly.
06:33.46neeneeTain: agreed. People called 'Ronaldoo', instead of 'Ronaldo' for instance :P
06:33.49wobinOne of my friends has about 8 alts, all named some variant of Seshomaruu
06:34.18xyui have 8 alts variants of xyu
06:34.22xyuall lvl 60+ casters
06:34.27wobiniyu
06:34.29wobiniiyu
06:34.30xyunah
06:34.31wobiniiiyu
06:34.32wobinivyu
06:34.37wobinvyu
06:34.37xyui use those unicode shit
06:34.45xyuuntil i get reported
06:34.49JJSheetslol
06:34.50xyuthen do a different one
06:34.59xyuone time i had no name at all
06:35.02xyuliterally no name
06:35.10xyui installed the chinese client, gave myself a chinese name
06:35.14xyuand it could not be read on the US clients
06:35.14wobinThere's one guy that 8boxes 7 mages and a priest
06:35.15kenlyric|homedamn, I spent like two weeks designing my alts, including their names.
06:35.17xyumy name was just []
06:35.33wobinhe wipes the floor in pvp =\
06:35.37xyuyeah my server has a guy w/ 4 warlocks
06:35.39xyuall gnomes
06:35.49xyuall on autofollow dotting everything
06:35.50xyu4 times
06:35.51neeneeMy druid is called 'Maple', my warlock 'Thimble', my mage 'Wrinkle' :)
06:35.54kenlyric|homethere's that famous five boxer with 4 warlocks and a shadow priest, all undead.
06:36.16xyuthat would be a good combo
06:36.20xyubonus shadow dmg from the priest
06:36.22xyuand all those dots
06:36.29wobinand pets
06:36.58xyutank pet, cc pet, can't go wrong
06:37.08wobinHehe, if he was good enough, he could have four succy seducing, and wipe out a fifth in seconds
06:37.15wobinThen work down the chain
06:37.28kenlyric|homehe was apparently very good :)
06:37.35xyuyeah most people are when they do that.
06:37.36kenlyric|homeall the GMs knew him :)
06:37.39xyuthey usually do it for every game they play
06:37.41wobinYou'd have to be to be worth the effort =P
06:37.42kenlyric|homehe got reported... a lot.
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06:38.37xyui wonder if he just uses like 4 nostromos or whatever they are called
06:38.47xyumini keyboards / usb keypads or something
06:38.53kenlyric|homeLet's see, two of my alt names (Deluring, a gnome mage, and Melethamar, a tauren druid) are Sindarin.
06:38.55xyuor he has a large table :D  
06:39.05JJSheetsI have a nostromo, I can't imagine using four of them...
06:39.23kenlyric|homeThe rest are just completely made up because they sounded good with the race, gender, and class.
06:39.24xyuwell if its all the same class w/ all the same keybindings
06:39.25ckknightI'm dual-boxing right now
06:39.26xyujust go down the line
06:39.35kenlyric|homeAnd of course, Prettiest, my male blood elf pally. Because that's the best name ever.
06:39.40ckknightwell, alt-tab style
06:39.42wobinhm
06:39.51wobinI have Rikitikitavi, my priest
06:39.52xyui'm dual monitoring
06:39.54JJSheetsxyu I guess... send me $3000 cash and I'll find out for sure... :p
06:40.00wobinTinkabell, my tauren
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06:40.20xyui've had 3 instances of wow going, but it gets kind of confusing cuz we're all different classes.
06:40.27xyui was just using 2 heal bots to maximize my pulls :D
06:40.50xyushammy + priest, earthsield at lvl like 42 is great.
06:41.14kenlyric|homethe only name I don't really like is Ragetalon, my warrior. I didn't really even thing about Rage being a class ability until about level 12.
06:41.37JJSheetslol
06:41.44kenlyric|homea hate people who describe their class in their name (unless they do it in Sindarin, of course)
06:41.58ckknightSindarin?
06:41.59wobinThen it's just geeky
06:42.11xyui have a Bloodelf named Bloodclot but i'm just saving it for a friend :)
06:42.11wobinWood elf language
06:42.12JJSheetsSindarin == LOTR geek.
06:42.13neeneeWe have a 'Superhealer' on our server :|
06:42.18neeneeshadowpriest
06:42.31kenlyric|homeJJSheets: indeed.
06:42.36JJSheetsyea verily.
06:42.51xyuthe whole "gnome" in your name is getting old too
06:43.07xyu"You don't gnome me"  etc.
06:43.11JJSheetsI have a gnome named Aristoggle, but I never play him anymore.
06:43.19xyui did see a new guild name called "I'd Mana Tap That"
06:43.21TainI will admit, the guild, "Gnomercy" gets a nod of approval from me.
06:43.26wobinIt's true
06:44.09kenlyric|homeTain: well, blizzard did use it in-game
06:44.16xyui saw a bloodelf called Ontheragelf"   i dont know how long he'll keep that name though.
06:44.33JJSheetsxyu lol sick.
06:45.19TainI petitioned people in my own guild over their names.  And I was pissed that there was a guild, <Miami Sound Machine> for as long as there was.
06:45.35kenlyric|homei'm a linguistic freak, so I can't have names that don't fly. Averdria is probably my current fave, my undead lock.
06:45.36wobinWe had "Booty Bay Removals"
06:45.37TemMy favorites will always be the guys back in beta who made an undead only guild named "Decomposing" and all their members were named after dead composers
06:45.41JJSheetsWas it on an RP server Tain?
06:45.47Tem(Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, ect)
06:45.49kenlyric|homeTain: RP server?
06:45.52TainNo JJ, it was a normal PvE
06:45.56kenlyric|homeDIAF
06:45.59xyumy name has been reported many times.  apparently it means the vulgar word of "dick" or "penis" in russian.
06:46.00ckknightall my names are real, nothing made up
06:46.15ckknightmy current warrior is "Gwen"
06:46.24ckknightI like it that way
06:46.26kenlyric|homedid you roll on day one?
06:46.34TainThat's a pretty clever bit, Tem
06:47.10ckknightTem: that is cool
06:47.19kenlyric|homesome names are oddly untaken. Kargath was up for a full year until Magic was taken.
06:49.39binderhmm
06:50.02binderwonder what would be involved in creating a mod that tracked pickpocketing stats with autoloot enabled
06:50.30Fisker-isn't it still bugged? :P
06:50.40binderwhat's taht?
06:51.05Fisker-In the beta at a point it would stop autolooting
06:51.17bindernope
06:51.21Fisker-But only with stuff like pickpocket, enchanting and stuff
06:51.22binderI'm walking around the nagrand ogres
06:51.22Fisker-hmm
06:51.25binderpickpocketing
06:51.34Fisker-still does it with disenchanting :(
06:51.57binder6g10s in 42minutes, including the money from the boxes
06:52.35Fisker-hmm
06:52.37Fisker-2.0.10 :P
06:52.53Fisker-that's gonna be "omg how can you make 2.1.0"-ish
06:53.01Fisker-where's 2.0.9 though :(
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06:57.22ZealotOnASticknymbia around?
06:57.29nymbianope
06:57.45ZealotOnAStickis there any way I can see what I've got bound with spellbinder?
06:57.56nymbianot really, no
06:58.05nymbiaaside from selecting the spell
06:58.09ZealotOnAStickHrm.  Feature request?  ;)
06:58.26ZealotOnAStickWell, I -think- I've got a macro bound, but I don't remember what to.
06:59.07nymbiahmm... it'd need to iterate all your spells, macros, and items to check for bound keys.... unless there's some way to iterate all the keybindings that i'm missing
07:00.31Fisker-wtf
07:00.32Fisker-server first
07:00.39Fisker-warriors getting buffed
07:00.52ZealotOnAStickWhat about a shortcut on it of just storing a little db of what you've bound with spellbinder?
07:01.59ZealotOnAStickdoesn't do anything for  stuff done previously, but it would be useful from that point on (and for new users of it)
07:02.20nymbiahmm.. could work
07:02.50nymbiai'll have a look after this instance ;)
07:03.09ZealotOnAStickmm, watcha running?
07:03.59nymbiaHAY
07:04.03nymbiathat's what i'm doing lol
07:04.28ZealotOnAStickQuagmirran better drop my eye.
07:04.40Arrowmasterdont you mean his eye?
07:04.56ZealotOnAStickNot if it drops.
07:05.04Arrowmasterits still his
07:05.49kenlyric|homenot if he drops it.
07:06.02neeneeIndeed. My leg does not become someone elses if it falls off and it's picked up
07:06.04kenlyric|homespecifically, he's dead. He doesn't own anything.
07:06.14kenlyric|homeit does if I steal it.
07:06.44neeneeIf a barber cuts your hair, that hair doesn't become his as he detaches it from the rest of you :)
07:07.21neeneeIf someone pukes on someone else,that puke doesn't become their own either.
07:07.51kenlyric|homeyou have a pretty limited definition  of what "my" means.
07:07.56ZealotOnAStickif they pick it up and wear it . . .
07:08.10syerenEspecially if the original owner fucking died.
07:08.15syeren;p
07:08.20NightHawkTheSaneso if i kill you, take your coat, and wear it, does it become my cat?
07:08.22kenlyric|homeand hey, if you want to steal the puke and claim it as your own, more power to you.
07:08.23NightHawkTheSaneer, coat?
07:08.37neeneeNightHawkTheSane: That's different, as that's not a body part
07:08.43kenlyric|homeNightHawkTheSane: yes.
07:08.59NightHawkTheSaneneenee: okay, fine. So I kill you, take your arm, and graft it on to the side of my body, does it become my arm? ;)
07:09.04kenlyric|homeyes.
07:09.12kenlyric|homein the act of taking it, it becomes yours.
07:09.16neeneeNope.
07:09.33neeneeIt just becomes something that you have taken as your own, not something that has become your own.
07:09.51neenee*is your own
07:09.53kenlyric|homewell, now you're expanding the scope. We were discussing "my"
07:10.17neeneeI still draw a line at bodyparts :)
07:10.31neeneeRegardless of discussing 'my', or rather 'mine'
07:10.35NightHawkTheSaneI think what neenee is getting at is that regardless of where it is, who owns it, and what people are doing with it. it will always be "Quagmirran's Eye" :P
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07:10.58ZealotOnAStickbut it'll be MY Quagmirran's Eye.
07:11.11neeneeIndeed. If it had become someone elses' eye, it might lose the properties you chose to take it for
07:11.13NightHawkTheSanewell, i dont think anyone's arguing that point ;)
07:11.36ZealotOnAStickSay, I, hypothetically, kill you, cut out your eye, dip it in acrylic, and wear it as a pin.
07:11.45kenlyric|homeOf or belonging to me; of or relating to myself; which I have, hold, or possess.
07:11.47syerenBest fucking discussion ever online.
07:11.54syerenWho's limb belongs to who.
07:11.57kenlyric|homethe third definition is what i"m arguing. That holding it makes it yours.
07:12.19neeneeYes, but you said 'Quagmirran better drop my eye'
07:12.27neeneeNot, 'Better drop the eye I want'
07:12.32NightHawkTheSanekenlyric|home: that's an argument unto itself, right of possession etc. there's still at least two levels of "ownership" involved :P
07:12.40ZealotOnAStickCorrect.
07:12.42kenlyric|homeI never claimed otherwise.
07:12.49ZealotOnAStickPresumptive ownership.
07:13.02ZealotOnAStickWell known sales technique.
07:13.10kenlyric|homeI never expand linguistic questions beyond their original scope, because that way leads to madness.
07:13.21NightHawkTheSanemadness is fun, though
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07:13.49neeneeCan be, not is.
07:13.51kenlyric|homewell, a madman did help write the OED, so you're probably right.
07:13.54neeneeIs implies it is always fun.
07:14.16NightHawkTheSaneneenee: yes, that was what I was saying. it's always fun.. for someone. :P
07:14.31kenlyric|homeChristmas is interesting, like a knife to the back.
07:14.36neeneeWell, you have to say the whole thing :)
07:14.51NightHawkTheSaneneenee: its more fun to not, though ;)
07:15.23neeneeHm. I suppose it is/can be :P
07:15.47neeneeWell, I'm off, hiking with Scouting today. *poof*
07:16.07neeneelovely 10-15 year old kids, well on their way to puberty if they aren't already there *sighs*
07:18.39kenlyric|homehot trail sex?
07:18.44kenlyric|homeor, preventing it
07:18.54FISKER_Qgoto menu? :o
07:21.40CIA-1803rophy * r28855 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (Basics.lua PartyFrame.lua PetFrame.lua SimpleUnitFrames.toc):
07:21.40CIA-18SimpleUnitFrames
07:21.40CIA-18- Fixed Party, Pet text anchoring.
07:21.40CIA-18- Added style 'mh3currmaxhp'.
07:22.45syerenHas anyone made the 'killer' bag addon yet?
07:22.52syerenThat will replace EngBags :P?
07:23.20ckknightBaggins?
07:23.26FISKER_QSanity
07:23.28FISKER_QArkInventory
07:23.30FISKER_QBaggins
07:23.48JJSheetsI love Baggins.
07:23.48FISKER_Qalthough you can't really call Sanity a bag addon
07:23.52FISKER_Qway too 1337 for that
07:23.55hyperChipmunk<3 baggins
07:24.13FISKER_Qwho made baggins?
07:24.29hyperChipmunksays Nargiddley
07:24.32hyperChipmunkin the about
07:25.00FISKER_QHe should feel bad!
07:25.05hyperChipmunkwhy?
07:25.07syerenDoes Baggings have a all in one bag with sorting option?
07:25.21hyperChipmunkyou can make it all one bag, sure
07:25.37binderhyperChipmunk
07:25.39binderhttp://www.thebinder.net/wtf/eyeoftheskull.jpg
07:25.55hyperChipmunkjust put all the categories in the same one
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07:26.20hyperChipmunkhaha nice
07:26.29binder2 more days :P
07:26.35hyperChipmunki think you missed a spot
07:26.39FISKER_Qwell binder it's liek because you met enemies there
07:26.47FISKER_Qnow you know where the enemies might be
07:26.49FISKER_Q:P
07:26.51syerenbinder, as a Rogue why do you even have your party frames enabled?
07:26.51ckknightWhy does Talented no longer show tooltips on the talents?
07:27.00FISKER_Qdoes here
07:27.04syerenAnd why don't you have your player and target frame in the center of your screen?
07:27.09ckknightI just get "Effective Tooltip Information Not Available"
07:27.12syerenSo you don't have to look away from the combat ;p
07:27.18FISKER_Qdo get this error though: [2007/02/24 08:11:02-427-x1]: Talented-1.0\core.lua:339: Babble-Class-2.2: Bad argument #2 to `GetHexColor' (string expected, got nil)
07:27.22binderthose are nurfed frames
07:27.25binderand I'm not in combat
07:27.29hyperChipmunkbecause maybe he's not one of those jack rogues who doesn't care about his teammates
07:27.38syerenRogue's don't need to ;p
07:27.42syerenThey kill stuff, quickly.
07:27.53hyperChipmunkyou've never done a BG, have you
07:27.54syerenAnd listen on TS when I scream "Blind X Now!"
07:27.55bindercombat changes where my frames are
07:27.57CIA-1803zuno * r28856 10UnitActionBars/ (Main.lua UnitGroup.lua):
07:27.57CIA-18UnitActionBars:
07:27.57CIA-18- Reordered a set of calls to fix a refresh issue
07:27.57CIA-18- Added removal of delayed register/unregister of frames after combat ends.
07:28.02syerenI'm a two time high warlord hyperChipmunk ;p
07:28.08syerenAnd I've been Rank 13 7 times ;p
07:28.11syerenSo no, I haven't.
07:28.13hyperChipmunkthat's sad, then
07:28.34binderwarrior is where my instincts come from
07:28.46CIA-1803zuno * r28857 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
07:28.47CIA-18UnitActionBars:
07:28.47CIA-18- Updated toc revision
07:28.51binderif I see a mob get loss and stuff I usually go after it and stuff lol
07:28.53hyperChipmunkif you won't protect your healers as a rog, you'd have no place on my team
07:29.08bindermy 2v2 arena team is me and a resto shaman
07:29.11syerenIf my rogues don't kill the opposistion on my team, you're useless.
07:29.20hyperChipmunknot in a BG
07:29.21syerenI'd rather have a class suited to protecting me, protecting me.
07:29.24syerenE.G. a mage.
07:29.26hyperChipmunkbg is nothing about kills
07:29.33hyperChipmunkit's about objectives
07:29.52syerenNo crap.
07:29.58syerenAnd in WSG they're flag defence.
07:30.04binderI'm not a dagger rogue either
07:30.05syerenAnd X Y Z. point defence.
07:30.07Brunersits all about hk farming
07:30.22hyperChipmunkthat's why it's rare to find a rogue that doesn't suck; they all think the same way you do
07:30.26wobinalright
07:30.31hyperChipmunkwho needs teammates, eh?
07:30.39wobinI've had it securestate headers
07:30.49syerenhyperChipmunk, the rogues I play with are great.
07:31.00syerenHell, one was numnber one on WCM for 3 weeks.
07:31.02syeren;p
07:31.10syerenWell, he did that twice ;p
07:31.28binderyou're not great at rogue until you're a bloodelf with gladiator gloves :P
07:31.45wobinHeh, as a rogue I tend to protect the healers =P I used to be a healer, I know that if the healer stays up, so can the rest of us
07:32.14syerenLike I said, leave that job to the mages / warlocks ;p
07:32.18syerenBetter suited for it ;p
07:32.24binder2v2 arena
07:32.36syeren2v2 arena? What about it ;p?
07:32.39syerenI play with a rogue ;p
07:33.05binderas what class?
07:33.10syerenPriest.
07:33.16TainAs a rogue I know healers will never heal me so screw them.
07:33.17syerenNone Pain-Supression.
07:33.24syerenBlessed Resilience.
07:33.35binderI get healed all the time
07:33.43binderbut I'm good at rogue
07:33.50binderbetter at warrior IMO
07:34.02kenlyric|homeONly bad priests don't heal rogues.
07:34.02syerenWarrior sucks.
07:34.06syerenFucking hated mine.
07:34.14syeren"LOL CHECK MY GEAR, MY GEAR IS WHAT IS BEATING YOU LOL."
07:34.14kenlyric|homeUnless it's a bad rogue, then yeah, they never get heals if we can help it.
07:34.37binderI got a lot of bgs without a death
07:34.50binderthen again, 4 silences and CoS helps a lot
07:38.41wobinBlah
07:38.48wobinI'm going to have to start out from scratch
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07:47.59CIA-1803wobin * r28858 10Splut/ (CircleSplut.lua Splut.lua Splut.toc Splutton.lua): Splut: Cut out just about everything. Starting from scratch with the basic basic properties then moving on from there.
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07:58.48kenlyric|homeany quick fix to a fubar that doesn't go 100% across the screen anymore?
07:59.03nymbiadrag is back to full size
07:59.11nymbias/is/it/
08:00.36kenlyric|homethat's works.
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08:20.31Brunersinstall Vista or not install Vista
08:20.32Brunershmm
08:21.29bindernot
08:22.37Silviu-Bruners what comp u have
08:24.25Brunerspentium m 750 dothan 1.86@2.4, x800xt, 1.5gb ram
08:26.26Silviu-U know that vista require minim 1gb and eats around 700 no ? ;)
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08:41.23OverloadUTIs there a buff mod that will change the names displayed to shorted versions? So instead of "Greater Blessing of Wisdom" it could just show "BoW"
08:42.00OverloadUTIt would be great if it could just work with Elk's Buff Bars but I'll change if there's a similar mod that also has the functionality I want
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08:42.47syerenWhy the fuck do I watch Nip / Tuck if I can't stand the surgery scenes :(
08:43.37TemBecause it's "edgy" and you're a consumer whore?
08:44.20syerenI enjoy the story :p
08:44.27syerenBut goddamn those scenes :(
08:44.57NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
08:46.32OverloadUTWatch The L Word instead
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08:46.49OverloadUTIt has the good story but the "edgy" scenes are lesbian sex instead of gross surgery
08:46.51FISKER_Qhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30831 <-lol someone put that up for 25g on my server
08:46.59NightHawkTheSaneforsake your consumer whorism! sell your TV! become a luddite!
08:47.35syerenI actually do think some of the sex scenes are there just for the 'edge' of the series, and a lot of the time are entirely pointless to the series.
08:47.49syerenAlthough scenes like Quentin and Kit seem to come to some usefulness later on in the series.
08:48.37OverloadUTYay another watcher :P
08:49.12syerenI do think the sex scenes were important in series 1 just to reinforce your opinion of Christian.
08:49.18syerenIt built his character obviously.
08:49.28syerenAnd there was the rather hilarious giving head / break nose scene :p
08:49.54OverloadUTChristian?
08:50.00syerenKristian.
08:50.05syerenHow ever you spell the name ;)
08:50.10OverloadUTYou sure you talking about season 1? :P
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08:50.14OverloadUTI'm in the middle of season 3
08:50.22syerenYes.
08:50.26syerenChristina Troy.
08:50.31syerenThe main character.
08:50.35syeren*Christian Troy.
08:50.41syerenYou did see season 1 right?
08:51.08OverloadUTShane, Kit, Bette, Jenny, Tina, Donna...
08:51.28syerenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Troy
08:51.33syerenI hope you're joking ;p
08:51.45OverloadUTLMAO
08:51.52OverloadUTWe are talking about different series
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08:52.37OverloadUTYou said "Kit" so I thought you were talking about The L Word which is what I mentioned about having lesbian sex instead of surgery scenes :P
08:52.46OverloadUTKit is a character in The L Word that is
08:52.46syerenKit McGraw.
08:52.51syerenThe Female Detective :p
08:52.56syerenRookie ;p
08:53.00OverloadUTNo Kit Porter, the one who owns The Planet ;)
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09:02.14evloh man
09:02.20evli saw the patchnotes and I almost came
09:02.23evlso much lovely nerfs :D
09:02.45Silviu-evl what patchnotes ?
09:02.49evlhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
09:03.01evlWarriors should be extremely happy
09:03.06evlshadow priests extremely sad
09:03.13evland druids should kill themselves
09:03.26evllike we need more green peace activists anywya
09:04.34Silviu-<PROTECTED>
09:04.36Silviu-LOL
09:04.43Silviu-Sux
09:05.38snurreyummy, new computer parts arrived \o/
09:06.10Silviu-Warlock
09:06.13Silviu-My main
09:06.14Silviu-<PROTECTED>
09:06.15Silviu-:/
09:06.24Silviu-No need crit if i only dot with pet
09:06.27Silviu-:/
09:06.31Silviu-Nice bliz :P
09:07.02snurrewell, warlocks are kinda powerful atm, especially affliction.. but that surely wasnt the talent I wouldve chosen to nerf
09:07.47snurreguess it was only to nerf 0/40/21 or something
09:07.48Silviu-Powerfull ?
09:07.48Arrowmasterdemonolgy warlocks were claiming their dots were more powerful than affliction warlocks
09:07.59Silviu-Yes they were
09:08.03Silviu-And ? :)
09:08.30Arrowmasterwarlocks were powerful back at 2.0
09:08.32Silviu-But in highend instance u are 0 with an lolguard
09:08.56Silviu-Nobody heals him, and if u keep him near u and no dmg u = 0
09:09.22snurrehttp://stage6.divx.com/members/492167/videos/1126782 grinding as affliction
09:09.47Silviu-Atm i am 0/21/40
09:10.07Silviu-I can grind ok with void sacced
09:10.13Silviu-And in instance i do good dmg :)
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09:13.11snurretime to finally make some proper use out of these 22" screens :p
09:13.49snurreaww
09:14.15snurreapart from requiring special software, i love that site.. finally a site that offers proper streaming quality
09:14.32Silviu-And bigger connection :/
09:14.43snurre1080p streamed video is ftw :p
09:14.50Silviu-With my 60 KB/s stays a little ..
09:14.51Silviu-:/
09:14.57Silviu-80%
09:18.21Silviu-snurre nice
09:18.26Silviu-And your talent build ?
09:18.37snurre43/13/5
09:18.55Silviu-have a link to it ?
09:19.23snurresec, ill fix
09:19.28Silviu-Oky thx :P
09:19.38evlArrowmaster: wlv
09:19.42evlArrowmaster: vlc, it saves the workd
09:19.44evlworld
09:19.48evlGOD DAMN TYPOS
09:20.27snurreSilviu-: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IiMriMfkVtbofx00cZx
09:20.41Arrowmasterevl: i doubt vlc would play that
09:21.04Silviu-snurre one opinion only why improved shadowbolt if no bane ?
09:21.53snurreno points for it :p
09:22.05Silviu-Yes but u could add in another place
09:22.08Silviu-those 5
09:22.19snurreas it is right now i dont really need the extra dmg from Bane, as threat is limiting my output anyway
09:22.46Silviu-Sb spam without bane sux hard :/
09:22.54Silviu-Ok when nightfall no problem
09:22.59snurreit still does more damage than any other class, so :p
09:24.15Silviu-http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AZfx0kIbzZxx0tr0tVuV
09:24.24Silviu-My build atm
09:25.25Silviu-If shadowpriest in grp or frost mage i use sacc succi or if fire mage i sacc imp
09:26.08snurreim using shadoweave and stuff, so not too fond of fire spells
09:26.21Silviu-I am tailor but ...
09:26.29Silviu-I chosed mooncloth specialization
09:26.30Silviu-:P
09:26.38snurrehttp://nihilum.co.uk/image/725/ pewpew
09:26.49Silviu-Well shadowweave looks like hell and my t3 is better
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09:27.18Silviu-woaa
09:27.19Silviu-:D
09:27.46Silviu-i only have 1k
09:30.15Silviu-i would like to see what items that Overnuker have
09:30.54snurreif only ctprofiles worked for gems :/
09:31.06snurreim more stamina-based than most tho
09:31.16snurregot about 2k more hp than any other warlock in my guild
09:31.26Silviu-u are overnuker ?
09:31.29snurreyeh
09:31.32Silviu-Oh
09:31.40Silviu-Ok .. so what items u have :)
09:32.27Silviu-U make me reskill tailor :/
09:32.37snurrehttp://ctprofiles.net/4894685
09:36.32snurre<PROTECTED>
09:36.32snurrehttp://ctprofiles.net/5046764
09:36.35snurreis what im going for
09:37.46Arrowmaster7 all resist on the cloak?
09:38.15snurreneh, that was old
09:38.18snurresubtlety
09:38.20snurrejust changed it :p
09:39.10Arrowmasterwish we had somebody that could do subtlety again on our server
09:40.14Silviu-they all respecced ? ;)
09:40.21Arrowmastertransfered
09:40.22ZealotOnAStickI've got the 7 all resist enchant on cloak, it's stupidly costly on mats.
09:40.42snurrei dont care about cost, i have 4k gold left and nothing to spend it on :p
09:40.59Silviu-And u already have epic right ?
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09:41.08ZealotOnAStickgive it time.
09:41.10ZealotOnAStickthere'll be stuff.
09:41.13snurreyeah, first thing i got when dinging 70 :p
09:41.15FallenAngelhi
09:41.21snurregold is piss easy in tbc anyway though
09:41.47Silviu-I only have 1100 and 1300 i borrowed my gf :)
09:41.55Silviu-to buy her too an epicmount
09:42.02snurrealthough, im no longer gaining 800g/day from questing since no npcs will give me any more :(
09:42.02Arrowmasteri logged on with like 100g today and logged off with over 400g
09:42.21Silviu-me neighter finished all quests :/
09:42.50snurrebeen searching hard for quests, i only have heroic and raid quests left
09:42.56Silviu-Me too
09:42.57Arrowmasterfinished most quests too, finally spent time to list a bunch of ore on the AH today
09:42.59Silviu-3 heroic
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09:43.15Silviu-that Trial of Neru
09:43.21snurredone two of them, still havent managed to do shattered halls heroic :/
09:43.21Silviu-Naaru
09:43.28snurreonly the nightbane prequest
09:43.36Silviu-And the Vials of eternity
09:43.53Silviu-And Keanna`s log i still have
09:44.05Silviu-altho my guild makes Kharazaan i don`t want to raid anymore
09:44.20Silviu-I prefer stay with my gf, since they don`t accept her in raidingteam :)
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09:45.55FISKER_Qfucking brownouts
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09:49.16Arrowmasteri want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty fork after looking at this code http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6903-ItsEval.html
09:51.04Arrowmasternot to mention the stupidity of such an addon since it uses AceConsole-2.0 in it
09:52.28NightHawkTheSanewait, someone used Ace2 to make an addon that does nothing but replicate ace console's built in /print command?
09:53.05Arrowmasteryes
09:53.29NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
09:53.31Arrowmasterlocal Console = AceLibrary"AceConsole-2.0"
09:55.12ckknightcomment on it, tell them that /print is part of AceConsole-2.0
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09:56.03Arrowmasterif select('#',...) == 1 and type(select(1,...)) == "table" then
09:56.05Arrowmasterfor k,v in pairs(select(1,...)) do
09:56.13Arrowmaster.........WTF????
09:57.17ckknightmakes sense, despite the select(1, ...) being redundant
09:57.54Arrowmasterthis code is full of extremely redundant stuff it seems
09:58.30CIA-1803adirelle * r28861 10Chronometer/Data/Hunter.lua:
09:58.30CIA-18Chronometer:
09:58.30CIA-18- Hunter: fixed Misdirection,
09:58.30CIA-18- Hunter: added Expose Weakness (untested).
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09:59.25ckknightoh yea
09:59.30ckknightwhat bag mod should I use?
10:00.47CIA-1803darchon * r28862 10MountMe/ (Core.lua EzDismount.lua ItemSwap.lua MountMe.toc): (log message trimmed)
10:00.47CIA-18MountMe:
10:00.47CIA-18- Fixed toc
10:00.47CIA-18- Added locales koKR
10:00.47CIA-18- Changed boosts item speed : spurs 3%->4%, gloves 3%->2%
10:00.49CIA-18- Changed FuBar text display method
10:00.51CIA-18- Used Dismount() function instead of MountMe_Dismount()
10:01.56Arrowmasterim tempted to upload my stupidly simple SmarterDismount mod somewhere
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10:02.28ArrowmasterSlashCmdList["DISMOUNT"] = function(msg) if ( SecureCmdOptionParse(msg) ) then Dismount() end end
10:02.32Arrowmasterthats the entire mod
10:03.27evlWhy can't I do MainMenuBar:Hide()/Show() in combat, but I can do /bartender hide 1 :(
10:06.17CIA-1803adirelle * r28863 10CastYeller/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:06.17CIA-18CastYeller:
10:06.17CIA-18- added mage announces: Portals and Polymorph.
10:06.17CIA-18- added warlock announces: Ritual of Summoning, Ritual of Doom,
10:06.17CIA-18- added priest announce: Shackle Undead,
10:06.18CIA-18- added druid announce: Hibernate,
10:06.20CIA-18- added warrior announces: Pummel and Shield Bash (disabled by default),
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10:08.06xlviii need a name for my male undead priest. suggestions, please.
10:10.50Arrowmasterclick the random button
10:11.30xlviii've clicked it like, 100 times
10:11.32xlviinothing i like.
10:11.58NightHawkTheSanego to a different race, click the random button :P
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10:14.08ckknightxlvii: what I do is go to google and type baby name generator
10:14.21ckknightthen choose one that allows you to pick country of origin
10:14.28ckknightand go for it
10:15.33Fisker-Once upon a time i was  a mean bastard
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10:16.24trhFisker-: was? :P
10:16.34Fisker-oh right
10:16.38Fisker-i am a mean bastard
10:17.06Fisker-just killed a draenei shaman for having a guild name similar to ones which i hate
10:17.14Fisker-i think that's fair enough
10:17.17ckknightlol?
10:17.55Fisker-oh shit
10:18.26Fisker-he had a level 63 with him
10:18.53Fisker-perhaps i shouldn't have been so mean
10:19.09ckknightlol
10:19.49Fisker-probably shouldn't have given him durabillity loss by letting the mobs finish him either
10:20.17snurreheh, the socket iLvl value wasn't tuned down that much :/
10:20.32Fisker-meaning?
10:21.29snurretier5 lock set gained a total of 6sta, 2int, 3crit, 2hit, 6spelldmg
10:21.34snurretier4 gained nothing
10:21.42Arrowmasterlol
10:21.45Fisker-lol
10:22.12Arrowmastertier5 shoulders are horible, although fucking sweet looking
10:22.51Fisker-dunno if they fixed it but the rogue set bonuses were horrible at a point :P
10:23.27snurrei want the tier6 2piece bonus for locks.. every CoA, corruption and UA tick heals you for 35
10:24.33Fisker-didn't know you could see those yet :o
10:24.45snurreyou can't, really :p
10:25.57Fisker-btw any of you know if you can get the below neutral rep quest before you've taken the "Allegiance to aldor/scryer" quest?
10:26.07Fisker-considering trying to rep with Aldor
10:26.10Fisker-Without doing any quests
10:26.14Fisker-not even the allegiance one
10:26.54NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: I think that quest stops being available at neutral, so its doubtful you can do taht without choosing an allegiance
10:28.14Fisker-well i'll use the other items for friendly and up
10:28.19Fisker-but i'm hostile to aldor from start
10:28.28CIA-1803wobin * r28864 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints.toc: Cartographer_Waypoints: Removed colour code from title in toc
10:29.28NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: ahh, you're a belf, then? Yeah, I don't know in that case
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10:30.10Fisker-pretty annoying :I
10:31.40NightHawkTheSaneerm, why?
10:32.40Fisker-cause i want to go aldor :P
10:32.49NightHawkTheSaneso, do the allegiance with the aldor quest?
10:32.50Fisker-so i'm pretty much 3850 rep behind everyone else
10:33.09NightHawkTheSanei -thinkn- that quest will bump you to friendly with aldor and hostile with scryers automagically
10:33.19Fisker-nope
10:33.26Fisker-it's 3500 rep with the faction you choose
10:33.34NightHawkTheSaneahh
10:33.58Fisker-else you could technically go  scryers and bump yourself to friendly status with aldor without any work
10:35.01NightHawkTheSaneah, yeah
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10:36.26CIA-1803shiftos * r28866 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-esES.lua: Bartender3: esES updated
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10:44.25Solehi
10:44.27Sole~seen wobin
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10:44.57yacooballakhazam down?
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10:45.37wobinhey Sole
10:45.40Soleheya
10:45.44wobinI'm about to go do an instance
10:45.56wobinBut all I can say, is that I need to start from the very very beginning =P
10:46.03Solealright, I'm gonna try to digest the crap we've gotta lay out
10:46.06wobinI've been trying to get my head around the state business
10:46.12Grollyahooo!! shammy love on the ptr!!! :D:D:D
10:46.13Fisker-eww yacoob
10:46.14wobinbut I need to start with a simpler example
10:46.21Fisker-you will be banned from the eu forums yacoob
10:46.32SoleIm trying to figure out what we need to have a simple fully functional button
10:46.38Solethats all I want atm
10:46.46wobinWell we kinda have that
10:46.48Solejust a generic freekin button
10:47.00wobinWell that's the thing
10:47.07wobinwith securebuttons, they're not generic
10:47.12SoleGroll: what are the shammy changes?
10:49.55GrollShaman
10:49.56GrollThe clearcasting effect from "Elemental Focus" now triggers on all spell critical strikes, rather than a chance on any spell hit.
10:49.56GrollThe shaman will no longer generate additional threat when "Unleashed Rage" triggers.
10:49.56GrollThe free Lightning spell cast from "Lightning Overload" will now cause reduced threat.
10:49.56Groll"Stoneclaw Totem" now has a 50% chance to stun attackers for 3 sec. when struck.
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10:50.25Soleomfg, stoneclaw has a reason to be on my shammy's hotbar now
10:50.38Solefor a pve point of view anyway
10:50.45Oninany dev here that I could ask a question?
10:50.48Arrowmastercan whirlwind hit totems?
10:51.00NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: i dont think so
10:51.04Onindont think so
10:51.06SoleOnin: ask the question, someones bound to know the answer
10:51.13Soleno AOE can hit totems AFAIK
10:51.13Oninok:P
10:51.15xyuit can't
10:51.20GrollSole yep..
10:51.28Soleotherwise they would be very easily taken out
10:51.34Grolland druids are getting an ass whopping :P
10:51.41Solegood
10:51.42wobinbyebye beartank
10:51.50Grollgo look at teh druidforums lol :P
10:51.55Onina question about fubar_druidtimer: self:AddRule("Feral", "Maim" ,{time = 0, d={cp={1, 2}, {2, 3}, {3, 4}, {4, 5}, {5, 6}}} is that the way to get the cps added to the calculation?
10:51.55NightHawkTheSanebears will be fine
10:52.29SoleI dont really know anything about what addon youre workin with :P
10:52.44OninFubar_druidtimers :)
10:52.56Solebut Im guessing the types are the 2nd value in each table
10:53.06Soles/types/times
10:53.16SoleI hate you purl
10:53.29Soles/hate/love/
10:53.33Soleahh
10:53.40Oninsole what did you mean?
10:53.53Onind={cp= ????????????
10:54.00Solethe 2nd value in each CP table is a time value
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10:54.10Oninyea
10:54.17Onin1, 2 (2 = seconds)
10:54.22Oninand 1 should be the cp?
10:54.24Solewell depends if fubar_druidtimer has a CP check built in
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10:54.38Onin--USAGE. (group, name, { time = "base time", d={[cp = combo point multiplyer, tn = talent tree table, tb = efect of talents, tp = percentage effect of talents, to =  if not talent then dont use, ]}, [event = "use blizzards spell finished event"]
10:54.44Oninwhat it says, so I think it has
10:55.02Soleput it in and see if it works
10:55.19Oninok wait
10:55.21Solehang on
10:55.49Soledo this   {time = 1, d={cp=1}}
10:56.01Solebase time is 1, each CP adds an extra second
10:57.22Solewobin: I think youre goin about headers the wrong way
10:57.24Oninoh hmm
10:57.40Oninok I'll try since the thing I just tried made the feral section of the menu go away:(
10:57.57Solelol
10:59.04wobinSole: yeah probably
10:59.19wobinAs I said, I need to start with a simpler example and work from there
10:59.42Onindidnt work wole
10:59.44Oninsole*
10:59.57Oningot some error in the beginning but I clicked it away, wait gonna write what it said
11:02.01Oninexpected (to close '(' at line 10) near 'end'
11:02.28Solehow large is that file/
11:02.31Solehow many lines
11:02.45Onin15
11:02.45Solewobin: I think we need to set up a header for each bar, not each 'main' button
11:02.54SoleOnin: pastey bin it
11:03.12Oninoh nvm, made a } instead of a ) >.<
11:03.16Oninwait gonna try again:P
11:05.15Oninsame error o.O
11:05.58Solepastey bin it
11:06.08Oninhttp://pastebin.perl.se/e15b8936bd/
11:06.50SoleWobin: alright I think Ive got what we gotta do
11:07.13OninI think I know my problem >.< wait:P
11:07.24SoleWobin: all splutton will do is create an arbitary number of buttons, then all CircleSplut and PopbarSplut will do is simply control the layout/behaviour of em
11:07.30Solesounds simple, right?
11:07.55SoleOnin: you forgot to close the table
11:07.58wobinyeah
11:08.11Soleself:AddRule("Feral", "Maim" ,{time = 1, d={cp=1}})  make that line 10
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11:10.04DustwhisperGood mornin =)
11:12.21Solehi
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11:14.08DustwhisperIs there a ACE2 bag/bankmod that lets you sort your bags/divide it up into "types of loot" ?
11:14.20Dustwhisperand is there a replacement for the "overhead healthbars" for mobs that would show numbers instead?
11:14.37Oninsole: I did but it doesnt work:(
11:14.55Oninthe addon works now, but maim isn't showing any bar
11:15.00NightHawkTheSaneDustwhisper: try baggins
11:15.01OninI can even choose it in the list
11:15.20SoleOnin: I guess Maim needs special parsing? :P
11:15.30SoleOnin: I really havent looked at the addon so I dunno
11:16.13SoleOnin: but Chronometer has Maim in it's data file so I guess its supported
11:16.21SoleOnin: why dont you use chrono instead?
11:16.26Dustwhispercool ill try thatwhat about the bar-replacement feature?
11:17.41NightHawkTheSaneDustwhisper: i'm not aware of any mod that does that
11:19.58Dustwhispersomeone should make one =D would be great for aoegrinding oh yerr
11:20.28Soledoubt its accessible in the first place
11:21.16Oninchrono shows all the things I do
11:21.18Onina bit annoying:P
11:21.22Oninbars everywhere!:)
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11:21.38Solecomment em out then
11:21.43NightHawkTheSanefuck
11:21.43Oninhmm
11:21.49Oninwell I'll see what I can do :)
11:22.04NightHawkTheSane<-- idiot
11:22.10Sole^^ agreed
11:22.30NightHawkTheSaneyou know, you could at least maybe ask me why before agreeing with me :)
11:22.37Solewtb explanation of how Iriel comes up with the shit he writes
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11:23.38SoleI mean, its not shit but its just a brain strain reading it
11:23.46Soleand following all the links
11:24.16OninSole, is it possible to get chronometer to use the old wow bars, like original casting bar style?
11:24.16Solechange the texture
11:24.45Soleshould be called Blizzard or somesuch
11:25.19Oninok
11:26.09wobinNightHawkTheSane: But why when you make it so easy? =)
11:26.42NightHawkTheSanewobin: because you like a challenge? :P
11:26.55Oninsole: it's not the one o.O
11:27.22SoleOnin: chrono uses surface, surface has the blizz texture Im sure
11:27.40Solewobin: Im gonna shuffle things around :P
11:27.50Solebtw general AceOO question
11:28.03Solea class inherits all the methods of its parent, correct?
11:28.13Soles/methods/functions/
11:28.57wobinyes
11:29.16Solehokay
11:29.30Oninhow am i supposed to get the old texture back then?:P
11:29.41SoleIm gonna focus on splutton just creating an action bar
11:30.18Soleso CircleSplut:new(nil, 5) would create a circle action bar with 5 buttons
11:30.35SoleSplutton:new(nil, 5) would create a new bar with 5 buttons :P
11:31.45Solewobin, we dont have to define Type = 'spell'/'item'/'macro' for the buttons to behave, do we?
11:32.15SoleI figure what we'll do is simply pass 3 args to a new class,  parent, numbuttons, table containing button heirachy
11:33.29wobinno
11:33.35Sole:(
11:33.58Soleno to what?
11:34.20Fisker-lol
11:34.23Fisker-how fucking lucky can i be
11:34.30Fisker-i was going to hearthglen to do some mission
11:34.35Fisker-it's the first time i'm there
11:34.42Fisker-then i meet some random spellbinder and crusader drops
11:35.03Solelol sucks that crusader aint all that fancy anymore :P
11:35.06Oninsole: now I fucked it up:/
11:35.08Onin:)
11:35.14SoleOnin: have fun :P
11:35.22Solewobin: you make me confused :(
11:35.38Fisker-heh Sole
11:35.42Fisker-still gotta have it
11:35.46Fisker-i'm an enchanter after all
11:35.50Sole:)
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11:36.53CIA-1803darchon * r28870 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
11:36.53CIA-18Babble-2.2:
11:36.53CIA-18- Fixed broken locales
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11:41.55OninSole: I think I can handle it, BUT what command do I write (§t as for target, i guess) to make the bar show the text of the skill I am using? like maim, cyclone etc
11:42.44Sole$s
11:43.15Oninoh, thought it wasn't that easy:/
11:43.21Sole:P
11:43.38Solewobin: you done with that instance?
11:43.54wobinJust started
11:43.58wobinAnd it's underbog
11:44.02wobinso I'll be here a while
11:44.19Solelol Ive never gone back there since I capped my cenarion rep
11:44.23Solesick of it =\
11:44.48break19brb, testing something
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11:46.54break19yay, it worked
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11:49.40nevcairielhow can i have a | char inside a colored string? it always ends the color string at that point :(
11:49.54[Ammo]|| to escape it?
11:49.56[Ammo]I think
11:50.09nevcairiellets see
11:50.16[Ammo]at least that's the first thing I'd try :)
11:50.43nevcairieli tried \ and % for escaping
11:50.44nevcairielheh
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11:51.08nevcairielseems to work, thanks
11:51.12[Ammo]np :)
11:51.22nevcairieli finally ditched Prat for SCM
11:54.40Solecan someone tell me what the 'newstate' attribute does?
11:56.06nevcairielit will change the state when the button is clicked, i think
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11:56.30Solehmm
11:56.47Solethat would make sense
12:01.41Solewobin: some success
12:01.59Solewobin: 1am now, Im goin to sleep
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12:21.50Fisker-what is SCM nevcairiel?
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12:22.03doktoreashi to all
12:22.18doktoreasi am looking for an addon that show wich buff miss in a party...any suggest?
12:22.49nevcairielFisker-: Simple Chat Mods
12:23.49boonedoktoreas, perfect raid is quite nice as raid frames, although they're beta för tbc right now and look pretty rubbish
12:24.15Fisker-you traitor nevcairiel
12:24.17Fisker-!1
12:24.21[Ammo]rofl
12:24.41doktoreashi boone i am happy with Grid, but i'd like to see who is missing stamina and other buff
12:24.53Dustwhispersimplebuff
12:24.55Dustwhisperor whatever it's called
12:24.58[Ammo]doktoreas: wasn't there a grid plugin for that
12:25.00[Ammo]not sure though
12:25.05[Ammo]don't use grid atm
12:25.36doktoreaswhy Ammo?
12:25.40boonecan't think of any other addons atm
12:25.52[Ammo]because I don't need it
12:26.11[Ammo]I have aguf showing my raid setup in a corner
12:26.20[Ammo]other than that I pewpew
12:26.24doktoreasok :D
12:27.29doktoreasi love grid and aguf it's too heavy for my machine
12:31.48Silviu-nevcairiel link ?
12:33.26nevcairielsvn
12:33.27nevcairiel:)
12:34.01nevcairieli dont recommend it for anyone who doesnt know what he is doing tho :P
12:35.44Dustwhisperanyone here know how baggings works?
12:35.52Dustwhisperit wont open all bags in one huge view
12:35.55Dustwhisperhow the hell do i fix that?
12:38.31NightHawkTheSanethe simple answer is to load one of the all-in-one layouts
12:39.03Dustwhisperlike onebag?
12:39.40NightHawkTheSanethere's an All-in-one layout that will behave similar to onebag, yeah. There's also an All-in-one-sorted layout, that divides things up into sections
12:39.53Dustwhisperthat's the one i want
12:39.54Dustwhisperthe last
12:39.55Dustwhisperi want all in one
12:39.58Dustwhisperbut with sorted layout
12:40.02Dustwhisperdepending on what the item is
12:40.40NightHawkTheSaneyeah, go to Load Profile, then select "All In One Sorted"
12:40.46CIA-1803jerry * r28871 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: Fix a bug in the conversion of templates
12:40.52NightHawkTheSanethat'll give you a basic sorted all in one layout, which you can edit and refine from there
12:41.54doktoreassolved... installed plugin for grid.Now its fine!
12:43.10CIA-1803rophy * r28872 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (6 files):
12:43.10CIA-18SimpleUnitFrames
12:43.10CIA-18- Added support for addon FocusFrame.
12:43.10CIA-18- Moved the setting of unitMap to each module.
12:44.40Dustwhisperye
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12:44.45Dustwhisperthat's rather nice Nightdew
12:44.51DustwhisperNightHawkTheSane
12:44.56Dustwhisperit still looks shit
12:45.00Dustwhisperbut it's functional =) which is good
12:45.46NightHawkTheSanehehe, well there's a couple skins you can choose from *shrug* :P
12:48.02Dustwhispertbh still looks like a blind mans skin
12:48.03Dustwhisperbut
12:48.06Dustwhisperit'll work
12:48.13Dustwhisperlets just hope the developer makes it a bit prettier in the future =D
12:48.50Nargiddleyopen for suggestions on how to make it look better easily :P
12:48.52CIA-1803darchon * r28873 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocal-koKR.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: koKR Update
12:49.06NightHawkTheSaneEh, honestly I like the blizzard skin myself. :)
12:50.13Nargiddleyand i like the default skin, simple is good :D
12:50.20Dustwhisperit's okay
12:50.34Dustwhisperit's not pretty/comfortable like onebag
12:50.58Nargiddley~seen vhaarr
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12:54.31vhaarrNargiddley: hey
12:54.43Nargiddleyvhaarr :D
12:54.46vhaarrsup
12:54.58Nargiddleyi got that sidebar thing you wanted working in waterfall
12:55.05Nargiddleyhttp://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6302/waterfallsectionsnz2.jpg
12:55.57Nargiddleyand it seems to be working well with the load all buttons from what i've tried so far
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12:56.59Fisker-looks hot Nargiddley
12:57.04Fisker-*fap fap fap fap*
12:57.45Nargiddleyneeds a pretty specific layout of the options table to work well, but was basicly designed around how bigwigs does it
12:58.48CIA-1803jerry * r28874 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (5 files): BigWigs: Fixes to french locale. Thanks alderick
12:59.00Dustwhisperdoes it do it for raid or for you personaly?
12:59.07Dustwhisperand what's a good aggro-alarm ?
13:00.17vhaarrBanzaiAlert + aUF_Banzai
13:00.21Dustwhisperasdf
13:00.21vhaarrNargiddley: sec
13:00.24DustwhisperNightHawkTheSane
13:00.29Dustwhisperwhy doesnt the damn bagkey open all the damn bags?
13:00.38Dustwhisperit won't open the "all in one" layout
13:00.38NightHawkTheSanebecause you have to bind it?
13:00.46Dustwhisperit will only open backpack?
13:00.50Dustwhispersadface!
13:00.52Nargiddleywhich 'damn bagkey' /
13:01.09NightHawkTheSaneDustwhisper: just go to your key bindings and rebind the key.
13:01.22Dustwhisperyou cant bind it to "all in one" can you?
13:01.26Nargiddleybaggins uses its own keybinding, so its still possible to open the default bags if you want
13:01.37Nargiddleyit opens all baggins bags by default
13:01.46Nargiddleyunless they have 'Open with all' unchecked
13:01.47Dustwhisperehm ye
13:01.51CIA-1803jerry * r28875 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua: BigWigs: I missed this trigger.
13:01.57Dustwhisperi want it to open the "all in one" layout
13:02.01Dustwhispernow i have to click on the fubar icon
13:02.25Nargiddleyjust bind the key, its identical functionally to clicking the fubar icon
13:03.17Dustwhisperah
13:03.19Dustwhispersorry
13:03.22Dustwhisperi screwed around
13:03.31vhaarrNargiddley: sweet, that's exactly how I wanted it
13:03.58Nargiddleyvhaarr, still a couple of things i'm not sure about. but its mostly working
13:04.02vhaarrNargiddley: let me know when you commit, so I can finally play around a bit with it
13:04.11vhaarrNargiddley: when that is done, I'll probably have some more feedback
13:04.14Nargiddleyvhaarr, already done
13:04.37Nargiddleyadd 'treeType', "SECTIONS' to the register call
13:05.09vhaarrNargiddley: You've probably got code to open it already, just paste me the whole line please
13:05.57Nargiddleylocal w = AceLibrary("Waterfall-1.0") w:Register("BigWigs","aceOptions",BigWigs.cmdtable,"treeType","SECTIONS") w:Open("BigWigs")
13:06.24vhaarrthanks
13:08.12CIA-1803derkyle * r28876 10ItemSync/ (19 files in 3 dirs):
13:08.12CIA-18ItemSync:
13:08.12CIA-18- Added: German Notes to TOC [Rene Hunkel (Bashman)]
13:08.12CIA-18- Updated: German Localization [Rene Hunkel (Bashman)]
13:08.12CIA-18- Added: Revision checks to all files to keep record of modifications.
13:17.07MoonWolfhttp://www.cs.utah.edu/~duongsaa/more_htm/jk_100animeRules.htm
13:19.50vhaarrNargiddley: want my comments in a query or here?
13:20.05Nargiddleyeither is fine
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13:34.58Dustwhisperhmm NightHawkTheSane sorry to bother you again =D
13:35.01Dustwhisperbut how do you get an item ID?
13:35.20Dustwhisperthought i'd sort all water/food into it's own subcontainer and all reputation stuff into it's own container
13:35.38Nargiddleyshould be PT sets for the water/food
13:35.44DustwhisperPT?
13:35.52NargiddleyPeriodic table
13:35.56Dustwhisperoh ok
13:36.04Dustwhisperwhat if i only want 2 types ?
13:36.13Dustwhisperwhich is conjured glaciar water and croissant
13:36.17Dustwhisperonly those 2 in their own container
13:36.30NightHawkTheSaneyou can alt-rightclick items in baggins to get info on the item, including the itemid, but yeah, there's far better ways to sort things than using item ids, i'd look into periodic table sets, and such
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13:36.53Dustwhisperok cool
13:40.33Dustwhisperbut can a rule superseed another?
13:40.41Dustwhisperby default you have the "consumables" cathegory
13:40.47Dustwhisperif i create my own and add inn conjured food/Water under it
13:40.54Dustwhisperit still seems to be in the consumables cathegory
13:41.12CIA-1803nargiddley * r28878 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua:
13:41.12CIA-18Waterfall-1.0:
13:41.12CIA-18- Added tooltips and a hover effect to section headers
13:41.12CIA-18- Fixed fed color controls not being setup correctly
13:41.31NightHawkTheSaneturn on "Hide Duplicate Items", then an item will only show up in the first bag/section that contains it
13:42.14NightHawkTheSanethat may require fine tuning the categories and/or bag/section order to get things to show up in the sections you want, though
13:42.25Dustwhispermy new cathegory doesnt even show =D
13:44.48Dustwhisperyea
13:44.51Dustwhisperthis worked out
13:44.52Dustwhisperthanks
13:44.56Dustwhisperthis mod is better than i thought =D
13:45.07NightHawkTheSaneindeed. :)
13:46.18NightHawkTheSaneit can be a bit of a trick/chore to get it just how you want, but it can probably do anything except maybe wash my dishes.
13:46.18NightHawkTheSane... Nargiddley, feature request? :P
13:46.19Nargiddleygo for it
13:46.19NightHawkTheSanehaha
13:46.21Dustwhisperin the periodic table though
13:46.34Dustwhisperi can't quite find what goes for "rep giving objects" (Consumables)
13:46.38Silviu-vhaarr around ? ;)
13:46.40Dustwhisperlike arcane tome
13:47.02NightHawkTheSaneDustwhisper: those arn't in Periodic Table at the moment, unfortunately. :\
13:47.03vhaarrSilviu-: yes
13:47.20Dustwhisperis it your mod NightHawkTheSane?
13:47.29Silviu-vhaarr when i reset for group in Violation should it reset for me too right ?
13:47.47NightHawkTheSaneDustwhisper: no, baggins is Nargiddley's. PeriodicTable is nymbia's (though others contribute i believe)
13:47.49Dustwhisperno it's Nargiddley
13:47.53Dustwhisperok
13:47.59Dustwhisperneeed reputationobjects in it =D=D=D
13:47.59vhaarrSilviu-: yes
13:48.04vhaarrSilviu-: err no
13:48.10vhaarrSilviu-: it doesn't do that now :P
13:48.13Silviu-Ok
13:48.15vhaarrSilviu-: I'll fix that in a bit
13:48.19Silviu-Oky doky
13:48.20vhaarrSilviu-: just an oversight from me
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13:48.40Silviu-And another thing, u will add an option to paste to chat ?
13:49.37vhaarryes
13:49.51vhaarrI just have to figure out how to do it first
13:50.00NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: actually, I just noticed a weird bug. If i've got a category with just "Bag 1", for example, if bag 1 has empty slots they'll show up, but the count for empty slots will be the count for the -total- empty slots in all your bags
13:50.19NightHawkTheSaneNot really a big problem, but wasnt sure if you were aware
13:50.26Silviu-vhaarr maybe u could take a look at topscorefu ?
13:50.35Silviu-Don`t know something like that i guess
13:50.51Nargiddleyyeah, if you turn off compression it'll show the correct number of slots.
13:51.10Dustwhisperi also found a bug
13:51.15Dustwhisperthe edit bag window freezes
13:51.17Nargiddleycompression assumes all simiar things (including empty slots) are in one space
13:51.22Dustwhisperneed /console reloadui to fix it :|
13:51.24Nargiddleyfor the counts
13:51.54ilifinoh joy
13:52.18ilifinI might be repeating here, but nice little bug they introduced with warrior's new rage generation on the PTRs; charge doesn't generate rage any more
13:52.57Dustwhisperanother thing, is it possible for baggings to have a cathegory that anything "new" is added to ? (If you are a lazy fuck farming and cant be arsed looking around to find what you picked up the past 20 mobs ) ?
13:53.50Nargiddleyit marks new things, theres no sorting them into a seperate bag tho
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13:54.15Dustwhisperwould be cool if say
13:54.24Dustwhispereverything new you picked up could go in it's own cathegory
13:54.31Dustwhisperand you could then right click and "sort into appropriate cathegory"
13:54.35Dustwhisperto rid yourself
13:54.42Dustwhisperand autodestruction of items on a "trashlist"
13:54.46Maxemushas carto lost its waypoint function or do i need to update again?
13:54.58ilifinit's been put into a different mod
13:55.02ilifincartographer_waypoint
13:56.02Maxemusit doesn't appear on the WAU :S
13:56.29ilifinhttp://www.wowace.com/files/Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints-r28869.zip <- definitely there :p
13:56.45Maxemusi'll go update my WAU to the newest then :)
13:58.33NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: is there no way to create a custom "Bank BagN" rule?
13:59.27Maxemusty ilifin
14:00.00NargiddleyNightHawkTheSane, hmm that looks like a bug. the rule will work but the editor wont let you set it :/
14:00.08Nargiddleyi'll look at that tomorrow
14:02.16Dustwhisperis not karazhan added to cartographer?
14:06.15Nargiddleynight everyone
14:07.29vhaarrSilviu-: what does it do?
14:07.30vhaarrnn narg
14:16.08Silviu-vhaarr paste in chat when u click an specific spell
14:17.24CIA-1803jerry * r28879 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: fixed a bug in copy code
14:20.35vhaarrSilviu-: Yeah, I know how to do that, thanks anyway.
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14:33.15CIA-18Babble-2.2:
14:33.15CIA-18- deDE Update
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15:17.59kenlyric|homeanyone know a good resource for macros, for all classes?
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15:27.02paranoidiwhat's good mod to notify me when certain ability becomes avaiable (moongose bite, kill command)
15:27.10trhblizzard ui? =)
15:27.23paranoidiumm, I need more bells and whistles :)
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15:31.15kenlyric|homemsbt
15:31.23kenlyric|homeyou can create custom events for just about anything.
15:31.49paranoidijust thought that .. hopefully I can assign audio aswell :)
15:35.37CIA-1803next96 * r28881 10ArenaMaster/localization.lua:
15:35.38CIA-18ArenaMaster:
15:35.38CIA-18- Add locale koKR
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15:38.44kenlyric|homedamn, I can't find the icons for track mining/herbalistm in the macro chooser.
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15:42.08paranoidikenlyric|home: meh, msbt trigger system is not flexible enough, it can't even see when ability becomes available
15:43.05paranoidicurrent triggers that "do" that parse events, hence does not take into account if ability is in cooldown etc ..
15:45.16[dRaCo]sct does something like that... it definitly works for execute and moongose bite
15:45.21[dRaCo]dunno about the rest
15:48.02MoonWolfthose are esy
15:48.15MoonWolfsimply display some text on a dodge or parry.
15:48.25MoonWolfhas nothing to do with cooldowns.
15:49.26paranoidiyes but that doesn't take into account if ability is in cd .. which is kinda dumb
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15:54.04CIA-1803next96 * r28882 10AuldLangSyne/locales/koKR.lua:
15:54.04CIA-18AuldLangSyne :
15:54.04CIA-18- Update locale koKR
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15:57.50kenlyric|homeguh, finding icons for macros is a paiin... can you drag an ability itself to use the icon?
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15:58.31vhaarrseems like it would be faster to try than to ask
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15:59.23kenlyric|homeI tried, it didn't work, so I was asking if there was a way that wasn't as obvious.
15:59.48kenlyric|homeyou know, like when a mod requires Shift-Alt-hokeypokey in order to work.
16:00.35JJSheetsthere's a hokeypokey key on your keyboard?  I feel so left out.  :)
16:00.43kenlyric|homeno, you have to do the hokey pokey.
16:00.46CIA-1803tornhoof * r28883 10Yata/ (Options.lua Timers.lua TotemBar.lua TotemButton.lua):
16:00.46CIA-18Yata:
16:00.46CIA-18- Added shortened Keybindings
16:00.46CIA-18- replaced pairs(...) with custom iterator, first step to more button layouts
16:00.52JJSheetslol
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16:13.25Kirkburn|afkDoes MountMe work with flying mounts?
16:15.06Tekkubouch
16:15.12Kirkburn|afk:)
16:15.13Tekkubdo I have a flyin gmount?
16:15.32Kirkburn|afkI wore boxing gloves when I poked you! You're so sensiitve
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16:15.58Kirkburn|afk~8ball Does Tekkub have a flying mount?
16:16.10purlPlease ask again.
16:17.01Kirkburn|afk~8ball No.
16:17.08purlI'm not sure.
16:17.35Tekkub:P
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16:22.22GrollTekkub i sooo know you want to make a new procwatcher for me.. riiiight? ;P
16:22.52hasteyou so asked the wrong person there
16:23.01Grolllol :D
16:23.28Grollit was kind of more of a joke than a real request :D
16:23.33Grollthe request is on the forum :D
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16:28.53Sarozok cartographer note sharing is fucked
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16:33.05MoonWolfstop abusing tekkub
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16:44.01Sarozckknight, ping
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16:49.44Funkeh`lo
16:50.01Fisker-lo
16:51.08Gandharvathunderclap in defstance! jeah!
16:52.18Funkeh`omg
16:52.21Sarozuhm
16:52.22Funkeh`priests got a nerf
16:52.24Funkeh`cryy
16:52.25SarozWho made Cartographer_Notes
16:52.29Sarozbecause, they messed up
16:52.43Funkeh`i hate you blizz
16:53.08[Ammo]Saroz: things were changed
16:53.14[Ammo]you need noteshare for sharing
16:53.23[Ammo]there was a post about it too
16:53.26Sarozhidden = '~IsBuiltinIncomingNoteFilter',
16:53.27Sarozthis is bad
16:53.36Sarozyou hide the filter settings, but they are still in effect
16:53.42Sarozso right now I am declining all notes
16:53.46Sarozbecause of a setting I cant control
16:54.31Funkeh`Prayer of Mending now has a 20 second cooldown.
16:54.33Funkeh`die
16:54.34Sarozand THAT explains why I have recreived zero noteshare data for the last week
16:55.10LysitheaFunkeh` yeh, pvphealing priests got doomed right there
16:55.22Funkeh`fuck pvp
16:55.24Funkeh`fucking pvp
16:55.27Funkeh`pvp fucking fuck
16:55.50Funkeh`why? they don't jsut nerf it in pvp situations?
16:56.01Lysitheabut it's all according to their plan, in the end they'll probably tune it to 5-10 and priests will be so looking for hope that they'll take it
16:56.05Funkeh`they can make cc's only last 20sec in pvp, why not give PoM a 20sec cd in pvp
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16:56.09Funkeh`12*
16:56.20Funkeh`and VE got nerfed
16:56.22Funkeh`and can't crit
16:56.39CIA-1803saroz * r28884 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Allow setting filtering again, since it broke notes from noteshare
16:56.40Lysitheawhile our friendly warriors only got buffs coming
16:56.43Funkeh`i crit VE for 1k on good occasions
16:57.07Lysitheacharge/intercept/intervene breaking roots is ridicolus (sp?)
16:57.12Lysitheahave fun mages
16:57.15Lysitheathat is all.
16:57.34Funkeh`meh
16:57.39Funkeh`i don't agree wiht these changes at all
16:57.46Funkeh`2.0.10, the nerf patch
16:58.06Lysitheathe reroll patch rather
16:58.25Funkeh`Thunder Clap" is now useable in Defensive Stance. In addition, the tooltip has been adjusted to indicate it causes additional threat.
16:58.29Funkeh`omg
16:58.31Funkeh`1 good change
16:58.45Funkeh`nerf TF, give TC in defensive
16:58.47Funkeh`lol
16:59.25Funkeh`i don't see why intervene should remove snare effects
16:59.36Funkeh`unless its on the players that its being applied
17:00.42kenlyric|homeFunkeh`: well, it's a nerf for warriors with TF... it's a buff for rogues with TF :)
17:00.46Fisker-I like the upcoming patch
17:00.58Funkeh`well imo, its a good chance
17:01.00Fisker-Like a rogue could overaggro anyways
17:01.03Funkeh`TF is getting kinda old
17:01.14Funkeh`and TC was useless not in defensive stance
17:01.48kenlyric|homethunderclap in defensive is hot.
17:01.58Fisker-nah
17:01.58Funkeh`yeah
17:01.59Fisker-you're hot
17:02.12Funkeh`Oo
17:02.44kenlyric|hometis true
17:02.52Gandharvacharge/intercept/intervene breaking roots is ridicolus (sp?) -> this will not come with 2.0.10
17:03.36Funkeh`if you will excuse me, i will go cry in my priest corner as i respec
17:04.48Gandharva*hug* Funkeh`
17:06.29Saroz[Ammo], you know how noteshare works? it seems to hook AcceptIncomingNote, but the creator isnt transfering correctly
17:07.34Saroznevermind, found the bug
17:07.44Sarozdata_creator -> real_creator
17:07.58kenlyric|homethey need an inRange macro option.
17:08.17JJSheetsnot bloody likely kenlyric|home :)
17:08.24kenlyric|homeI know.
17:08.45kenlyric|hometrying to write the perfect shackle undead macro. Fails if my focus is out of range.
17:09.11JJSheetsIt would be nice for so much more too. :)
17:09.22kenlyric|homeright :)
17:09.26CIA-1803saroz * r28885 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer: data_creator -> real_creator.. come on now, watch the typos
17:09.33harl|WoWlol
17:09.43Sarozffs
17:10.05JJSheetsbut typos are fun!
17:10.11Saroztypos are timeconsuming
17:10.28SaladinWIN
17:10.28JJSheetslol
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17:45.45MoonWolfyay
17:45.46ThorgardWewtz, harddrive crashes FTW.
17:45.48MoonWolfgood beers
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17:47.46Arrowmasterholy shit
17:47.46ArrowmasterFixed a bug where the stealthy bonus was not getting applied to the "Eye of Kilrogg."
17:47.46Arrowmasterits about fucking time
17:47.46Thorgard:o
17:48.23Arrowmasterif thats true then it proves that blizzard has some serious problems with its QA dept
17:48.35snurreit's probably more a matter of priorities
17:48.40Fisker-What do you mean?
17:48.59Fisker-That has been proved since the first PTR
17:49.11Fisker-Probably not even Q&A that's responsible
17:49.17Fisker-probably the developers or something like that
17:49.21Arrowmasterfirst they break the stealth on it completely with the shadowmeld nerf, then they claim it never had stealth and removed stealthy from the tooltip
17:50.05snurrestill better than the orc racials.. the pet dmg bonus never has and still doesnt work, and hardiness never gave more than 15%, they just changed tooltip instead of fixing it
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17:50.22Arrowmasterlol? seriously
17:51.03Arrowmasterhardiness is far from what it used to be right now
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17:51.29Arrowmasteralthough theres not many uses for sleep resist
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18:05.03Funkeh`is there any way to determine the sex of a class close to you
18:05.30Funkeh`by name
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18:15.11vhaarrYou always need a unit ID.
18:16.24Ominousanyone got any good color suggestions for the title bar for Niagara
18:17.17Fisker-ass
18:17.19Fisker-or titties
18:17.23Fisker-and/or titties
18:17.57Ominoussigh
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18:24.20OverloadUTWeird, someone committed a change to the toc file of my addon. Is that normal?
18:25.52vhaarrIt's probably a translation.
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18:37.13Sarozany good alchemy mod? or trade window mod
18:39.28neeneeSaroz: Explain what you want those mods to do
18:39.45neeneeSaroz: A trade window mod can be anything - Auto-denying trades? Or changing the look?
18:39.50neeneeSame goes for Alchemy mods
18:40.36Ominousckknight: ping
18:44.24Elkanowe are getting not only memory but also cpu profiling? COOL! /hug slouken
18:45.15Elkanoand if all that stuff makes it to 2.1.0.... *rrr*
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18:47.30OverloadUTI hate when I plug in one of my previously-unplugged HDDs and one of the ones that always worked now doesn't show up
18:48.52hyperChipmunkthere a Prat module for replacing CommandHistory?
18:56.35Fisker-i like you Elkano
18:59.07Gnarfoz<Saroz> any good alchemy mod? or trade window mod <-- ATSW :>
18:59.42Sarozwha
18:59.56GnarfozAdvanced Tradeskill Window
19:00.14Gnarfozbrb, demon tools want's a reboot :<
19:00.23Silviu-It`s nice but eats toooo much mem i have 200 kb/s increase when i create something
19:00.49Gnarfoz(whatever kind of reason that is to not use it)
19:01.39kenlyric|homewell, since you don't create things and fight at the same time, it shouldn't be an issue.
19:01.50kenlyric|homejust make stuff, garbage collect, and viola!
19:02.02ElkanoFisker- ???
19:02.38CIA-1803trh * r28886 10VanasKoS/ (14 files in 3 dirs):
19:02.38CIA-18VanasKoS:
19:02.38CIA-18- added opium data import
19:02.38CIA-18- added a sound file
19:02.39CIA-18- fixed some bugs
19:02.57ckknightOminous: pong
19:03.53Ominousckknight: is there a way to iterate through the FuBar plugins and see if they generate the menu from an ace options table and if they do then to retrieve the table name
19:04.29ckknighttable reference, you mean
19:04.36ckknightum, probably, but it'd be a hack.
19:04.36Ominousyea
19:05.13Barbanusso many people don't realise that 2.0.10 != 2.1.0
19:05.27vhaarrOminous: Why do you need that? You can iterate the AceConsole internal table instead.
19:05.53Silviu-2.0.10 us another nerf to a lot of classes :P
19:05.56Silviu-is*
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19:06.12Ominousdoes FuBar plugin create ace console enteries for every item?
19:06.20BarbanusSilviu-, yes, but its not the new UI changes that are going in :P
19:06.33Silviu-Yeah
19:06.38vhaarrOminous: only if they register a slash command
19:06.40Silviu-pitty :P
19:07.01Silviu-Or .. anyway all i want atm is the new thing for warlock`s pet
19:07.41BarbanusI believe that is also 2.1.0
19:07.54ckknightOminous: not automatically
19:07.55Silviu-Hope so ;)
19:10.07OverloadUTOkay so I just set up my email client for the first time since December when I reformatted my machine. I was really lazy. So guess how many emails are downloading from my email addresses right now?
19:10.30Srosh2000?
19:12.30OverloadUT15,580!
19:13.29trhyou get alot of spam :)
19:13.56trhbut how the heck could you survive 2 months without email?
19:16.22kenlyric|homethey need a unitID for "that thing which is attacking me"
19:18.00leech2khmm I am getting errors trying to use svn anyone else?
19:18.36kenlyric|homeoh well, I suppose mouseover will work.
19:18.45OverloadUTtrh: Well I had my work email of course, that comes in on my phone and everything. But yeah, 15,520 of that email is probably spam
19:18.56kenlyric|homeunitID mouseover work in the world, right? not just on a unitframe?
19:19.15OverloadUTThe problem is I own several domains and my emails are "catch-alls" so I get all teh spam sent to all the different bob@ mary@ whoever@ that spammers do to try to find valid emails
19:19.34kenlyric|homeyeha, I had to stop with the catch-all.
19:19.41kenlyric|homeI have 37 custom addresses right now :)
19:19.46trhOverloadUT: just disable catch all and install webmaster@ and the names you want
19:20.23OverloadUTtrh: Yeah that's what I'm going to do because it's getting ridiculous
19:20.36OverloadUTOf course the spam that comes in on webmaster@ is nothing to shake a stick at either ;)
19:20.38JensHey, can I addmessage a value from a variable with /script somehow?
19:21.00trhJens: if the variable is global available yes
19:21.00JensThis shit ain't working, and I have no idea why.
19:21.15JensOh right... it's local.
19:21.24kenlyric|home<PROTECTED>
19:21.29trhOverloadUT: got a spam filter, right? :)
19:21.31JensTime for debug code festival.
19:21.39kenlyric|homemacros have to have better conditional logic than that.
19:22.04OverloadUTtrh: Yeah I'm using Cloudmark Desktop which has a pretty damn high catch rate, but it's going to take forever to go through the 15k ;)
19:22.17trhOverloadUT: hehe
19:23.16leech2khmm so wow crashed on my and all my mods lost their settings
19:23.22leech2kis there an easy fix?
19:23.32trhbackup your WTF ^^
19:23.38leech2k<PROTECTED>
19:23.40leech2kya
19:23.45leech2kI will now.
19:24.00trhyou may have luck and those .bak files include what you need
19:24.06yacooboh, how long I haven't seen Headless Chicken Aspect on BG...
19:24.18trhsometimes wow does create them, but i don't know why or when
19:24.46leech2kfor some reason all my .bak are from december
19:25.34OverloadUTYeah mine are usually months old, makes no sense
19:26.54Silviu-All time i make an bugger setting i just /rl
19:26.58Silviu-Just to be sure it saves
19:26.59Silviu-;p
19:27.02Silviu-bigger*
19:27.37Ominousif you have say have a value mod.test how can you narrow that down to just the handler ie mod
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19:40.07break19why dont I have a /way command anymore?
19:41.03break19was the waypoints module moved outside the main cartographer download?
19:41.27Silviu-break19 yes
19:41.33break19again? heh
19:44.23Silviu-~blame wobin
19:44.32purlACTION blames wobin (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
19:44.32Silviu-;p
19:44.51OverloadUT10k out of 15k downloaded...
19:45.47OverloadUT~commands
19:45.50OverloadUTDamn
19:46.48ckknightbreak19: I frankly don't think it should be
19:48.01OverloadUTSeems like a perfectly valid and useful feature for the core
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19:48.26ckknighthow would one, with lua's patterns, match a word that is followed by a space or is at the start? I kinda want to do how in perl would be "(^| )thing"
19:48.31ckknightOverloadUT: I agree
19:48.53OverloadUTI thought that would work ckknight
19:49.02hastenot in Lua
19:49.42OverloadUTYou could do a match for ^ and then do a whitespace trim before passing the stirng in
19:50.20ckknighthow so?
19:50.23vhaarr^.-%a+.- ?
19:50.30ckknight^ means the start of a string, you know
19:50.49vhaarr^.-(%a+).- I mean
19:51.13ckknightvhaarr: no, since that doesn't mean that it follows a space
19:51.19ckknightlike, at all.
19:51.22vodrinlooks like  a funny emotion to me ;o
19:51.40OverloadUTAh yeah vhaarr's thing would work
19:51.45trhwhat's the safest way to check if i'm in a battleground or not?
19:51.45vhaarrOverloadUT: no
19:51.47ckknightno, no it wouldn't
19:51.54vhaarrOverloadUT: it doesn't guarantee that it follows a space
19:52.09ckknightI want it to catch "zomg thing" or "thing"
19:52.43ckknightthing is definite
19:52.48OverloadUT^ ?.*     ?
19:53.17OverloadUTRather, "^ ?.*"
19:53.29ckknightokay, go it
19:53.31ckknight"%f[%w]thing"
19:53.32OverloadUTOr replace * with + to require there to be something
19:53.33ckknightgot it*
19:53.42vhaarrfrontier always confuses me
19:53.44vhaarr^^
19:54.06vhaarrmaybe I should actually read the description, oh well
19:54.20OverloadUTI don't see %f listed in the pattern list in the Lua docs
19:54.47ckknight"%f[%w]thing%f[%W]" is what I want
19:54.47vhaarrit's not, because it's controversial
19:55.23OverloadUTAh
19:55.31OverloadUTIn fact I don't even see ^ listed in the doc :-?
19:56.58ckknightI'm working on QuestFu's highlighter
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20:08.23johRight, how do I set the target with [target=<Mob name>] ?
20:11.25Elkanoiirc you don't as you can't target by name anymore
20:12.34Ordog[2007/02/24 19:54:21-248-x112]: Quixote-1.0-28776 (Quixote):544: bad argument #1 to 'find' (string expected, got nil)
20:12.38Ordogknown?
20:13.02Ordogguess wrong usage by an addon
20:15.38Ordogusing only questsFu related to that lib i think
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20:31.56OverloadUTOrdog: Do you use Cart_QuestObjectives? That also used Quixote
20:32.07OverloadUTs/used/uses/
20:40.26CIA-1803ckknight * r28887 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (QuestsFu.lua QuestsFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu - updated highlighter
20:43.17FryGuy_has anyone had a conflict with manufac where it causes the UI to lock up completely when refreshing a profession?
20:43.31FryGuy_i searched on the forums, but couldn't find anything in my quick search
20:47.09CIA-1803funkydude * r28888 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
20:47.09CIA-18BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane:
20:47.09CIA-18- smoking blast warning
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20:53.21Solehi
20:54.14Sole~seen wobin
20:54.47purlwobin is currently on #wowi-lounge (49m 31s) #wowace (49m 31s), last said: 'so I'll be here a while'.
20:54.47wobinmorning sole
20:54.47Soleyoure up early
20:54.47wobinyeah, I had a crappy night
20:54.53wobinso I'm feeling a bit under the weather.
20:54.59Soleme too :(
20:55.15Soleneighbours had a party, they didnt go to sleep til 9am
20:55.31wobinwe got about a 1/10th through underbog, and half the party lost power =P
20:55.33Soleso I only got 7 hours of crappy interrupted sleep
20:55.39Solelol
20:55.44kenlyric|home1/10th... is that 3 pulls?
20:55.57Solethats like 10 pulls
20:56.01Solefuck underbog
20:56.11kenlyric|homeagreed
20:56.15wobinIt was stupidly humid last night, so I only got about 5 hours of crappy sleep
20:56.22Gnarfozfuck wow, supreme commander rules ;D
20:56.25wobinAt least we finished slavepens
20:56.36kenlyric|homecan I transfer my level 70 to SC?
20:56.41Solewhere in aus are you from wob?
20:56.41wobinalthough my first slavepens run was the best ever
20:56.44wobinSydney
20:56.51wobinI just MC'd -everything-
20:56.56Soleahh, yeah you guys get crazy weather dont ya?
20:57.10wobinand we had Mystery Science Theatre, with "Will this naga survive the drop?!"
20:57.23wobin(The answer turned out to be "Yes")
20:58.01wobinSo anyway.
20:58.28wobinThe way I'm reading these state headers, is that we'll need one for each hub button
20:58.33wobin(Main)
20:59.03wobinand we can hopefully chain them together so they reflect the parent hub state
20:59.17wobinotherwise we're in for a lot of processing, which we -can- do, but ends up messy
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21:00.03wobineither way, we end up having to create the buttons, then retraverse the list, applying the various positions to the buttons according to the hub, and showstates
21:00.43wobinBut in the first place, I want to create a single button that pops out the first level of buttons
21:00.46wobinand that's it =P
21:00.49Solewobin: hmm
21:00.55Solewell I  created a 5 button action bar last night!
21:01.00wobinwoo!
21:01.04wobinwhat did it do?
21:01.11Solebut I still cant make it so that I can drag spells OFF
21:01.18wobinah
21:01.26wobinwell, cause they're not actionbars
21:01.44Solehmm?
21:01.47wobinwe'll have to use some other functionality
21:01.58Solehow are they not actionbars/
21:02.09wobinwell they're not actionbars insofar that we can't drag items off them and get them on the cursor like with normal actionbars
21:02.32Solehow would we go about that? :(
21:02.39wobinThe closest they can get to actionbars is mimicking the behaiviour
21:02.40Solecoz thats what we need
21:02.52wobinyou have some functionality that just clears that button
21:03.12wobinor menu option eventually
21:03.16Solehmm
21:03.20CIA-1803nargiddley * r28889 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua:
21:03.21CIA-18Waterfall-1.0:
21:03.21CIA-18- Tweak Checkbox graphics
21:03.21CIA-18- Scrollbars hide when not needed, and mouse wheel scrolling is more consistent
21:03.37Soleso why do we need a state header for each 'main' button?
21:03.37wobinWhat I'm kinda envisualising, (at the end) is that people drop spells on the hub button
21:03.48wobinwhich creates a button and puts it up around that hub
21:03.55Soleyeah popbars will also have spells dropped on the hub buttons
21:04.08wobinto show and hide their 'children'
21:04.09Solewhich will add the spell to the end of the popout
21:04.17Solehm
21:04.40Solealright I guess
21:04.42wobinand each parent of that main header will show and hide that main header as one of it's own children
21:05.06Solebtw wobin Ive got an idea for how we can define a whole action bar's ammount of buttons and the children, just pass it a table
21:05.18wobina table of?
21:05.30Solebar = {1,2,3,4,5={1,2,3={1,2}},6,7={1,2,3}}
21:05.34Solenumbers
21:05.39Soleit looks messy in irc
21:05.44wobinhm
21:05.52wobinDo we want to make actionbars?
21:05.59wobinor rather
21:06.08wobindo we want to use the actionbar functionality?
21:06.17wobinor our own spellbuttons
21:06.44wobinwith our own buttons, we're not limited to the actionbar
21:07.06Solehow would we be limited to the actionbar?
21:07.16SoleI figure we could pass that heirachy table to the init of the class
21:07.29wobinwell if you're passing in actionbutton ids, you're limited to what you have set up on the actionbars
21:07.37Soleand it would create a bar, with the tables inside the table defining the children
21:07.52wobinif you use the current setup, all you're passing in is identifiers to the spell/item/macro
21:08.13Solehmm
21:08.20Soleermerm
21:08.23wobinIt's a series of nested tables =P
21:08.34Soleyes I know
21:08.54wobinso how is that different?
21:09.08wobinI mean, that was going to be the savedvariable format
21:09.11SoleIm...not..too..sure
21:09.28Solegimme a break Im sleepy :P
21:09.51wobinso after config, and initial setup of the bars, the SV table would look somewhat like that (with more details as to which spell/item/macro it was referring to)
21:10.07SoleI dfont understand one thing however
21:10.18wobinOkay, so that wasn't explicitly outlined =) I apologise =)
21:10.29Solein the nested table, you define the type as spell/item/macro
21:10.38wobinThat's all arbitary
21:10.43wobinthey're really empty tables
21:10.46wobinat the moment
21:10.51Soleahh so its changed when the user puts something in the button
21:10.52wobinexcept the ones marked 'Main'
21:11.19wobinyeah. If the table type is 'Main' then it becomes a hub
21:11.29wobins/table/button/
21:11.43wobinother than that, it depends on what's dropped into the button
21:11.52wobinThat whole table is just a mockup for testing
21:12.05Soleahh ok
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21:12.52Solewell that table would fit a popbar table also
21:12.56wobinyeah
21:13.37Soleso we're creating an action bar addon thats not really an actionbar huh?
21:13.47wobinwell
21:13.55wobinwe're creating an actionbar addon that doesn't refer to the current actionbar
21:14.07Soleso it doesnt use actionids
21:14.11wobinyeah
21:14.19Soleso will we want our users to be able to use the modifiers?
21:14.25Soleshift, ctrl, alt
21:14.32wobinEventually I guess
21:14.43wobinwhat will we have that modify though?
21:14.53Solenot too sure :(
21:15.03wobinMy biggest concern is targetting...
21:15.11Soleit works fine for me
21:15.25wobinI guess we set the unit attribute to 'target'
21:15.35Soleyeh
21:15.40wobinkk
21:15.40Soleif we need to set it at all
21:15.50wobinprobably, for combat
21:15.53wobinor rather,
21:15.58wobinI read somewhere it's required
21:16.07wobinprobably wowwiki
21:16.12Solehmm
21:16.24wobinhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview
21:16.34Soleone thing we gotta figure out is, why cant we navigate the frames when in combat lockdown?
21:16.45Soleiriel's code can :(
21:17.01wobincause we're not using the statehandler properly yet
21:17.09wobinthat's what I'm intending to hash out today
21:17.16CIA-1803jncl * r28890 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/CT_RaidTracker.lua Skinner.toc): Skinner: Skinned CT_RaidTracker
21:17.44wobinDo you know what we need?
21:17.52ckknightpants?
21:18.01wobinDo you know what we also need?
21:18.14ckknightcan't think of anything outside of pants
21:18.19Solehmm
21:18.43Lysitheaoh
21:18.44wobinA debugging library that allows us to set a function table on a frame, so that it pops up a tooltip with the debug info when you hover over that frame
21:18.47Lysitheamagtheridon down
21:19.16Soleooh thatd be nice wobin
21:19.21wobinwe could call it "Where's My Cow"
21:19.26Soleyes
21:20.19vhaarrLysithea: Got combat transcripts?
21:20.24SoleI dont understand why we have to set the 'type' attribute?
21:20.35Soleshouldnt that be dynamic depending on whats in the button?
21:20.37wobintype?
21:20.49wobinoh
21:20.56wobinwell it doesn't know what's in the button
21:21.22wobinunless it's referring to an existing actionbutton
21:21.22wobinsince the button doesn't store anything apart from what we set
21:21.22Soleso we change the type every time the user changes whats in the button?
21:21.30wobinyeah
21:21.54Prophanyone have Playertargets and MT targets disappear when you enter/exit out of arenas??
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21:25.36cncfanaticsyo all
21:26.03Lysitheavhaarr no, sorry, nihilum downed him
21:26.26Lysithea#nihilum.wow @ qnet if that helps
21:27.17Solelol not surprised nihi did it
21:34.59OverloadUTIs there any way to make AGUF display all frames while not in a party for configuration?
21:38.56CIA-1803trh * r28891 10VanasKoS/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
21:38.56CIA-18VanasKoS:
21:38.56CIA-18- bugfixing (sorting options), locales and so on
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21:42.55yacoobhmmm
21:42.57yacoobI see the other flag on the minimap on wsg. When did they introduced THAT?
21:43.06Lysithea2.0 I think
21:43.17Lysitheaif it takes X time and it hasnt been capped both shows
21:43.30paranoidiis there addon that can automaticly restock items (arrows, vials, etc?)
21:43.39yacoobLysithea, mhm, I see. Thanks :)
21:43.41Lysitheato prevent the "lets play hide and seek"
21:43.44yacoobgood change.
21:44.37Solewobin: enlighten me please on why we cant use actionids? :P
21:44.51Solewobin: because we could just set the type attribute for the buttons to  'action'
21:44.55wobinWell, we can.
21:45.03wobinBut that's never really been an issue
21:45.16wobinBut I don't want to be limited to the actionbars
21:45.19CIA-1803sutorix * r28892 10FishingAce/FishingAce.lua: FishingAce: Remove reference to Gratuity since it's not being used yet
21:45.40Solewhat are the exact limitations though?
21:45.48wobinNow how are you going to allow the user to determine -which- actionbarid they're going to put in which button?
21:47.51wobinCause personally, I'm not going to rearrange my actionbars to fit an external addon's buttonset
21:47.51wobinand entering in numbers as to which button it refers to is just clumsy
21:47.51Soleyoure not goin to replace your actionbar with splut?
21:47.51wobindragging and dropping isn't going to work, cause no actionids are transferred
21:47.52wobinSole: no
21:47.52wobinbut that's beside the point
21:47.52wobinHow do you set which id goes to which button?
21:47.52wobinwithout hardcoding in sets
21:47.57Solehmm
21:48.06Soledamn this dynamic stuff
21:48.10wobinThat's why I'm just going for dragdrop stuff
21:48.25wobinthe actionbars are just too static and uninformative to help out
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21:48.59wobinI'd like to be able to have a popbar with -all- ranks of spells or something
21:49.10wobin(well not me personally, but it -should- be possible)
21:49.21Soleyeah it should be
21:49.30wobinand having to overwrite my current actionbar settings to fit it all in, is silly
21:49.46Solebut Im pretty sure that if we dont use actionids then we cant use splut in combat
21:49.56wobinnoope
21:50.00wobinYou can
21:50.06wobinI think
21:50.18wobinhow else does Clique work?
21:50.25wobinit's definitely not going off actionbars
21:50.33Solelets take a looksee
21:52.23Gagorian-What addon can be used to split the screen into a portion with textured/solid color background?
21:54.03SoleeePanels mabe
21:55.24GagorianWill try it. Thanks
21:57.53Lysitheadoesnt skinner do that too?
21:58.21vhaarrIt does.
21:58.42vhaarr~seen gamefaq
21:59.01purlgamefaq <i=Gamefaq@pD9E62E3E.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 51m 54s ago, saying: 'hiho'.
22:00.14OverloadUTIs there any way at all to customize the nameplates using addons?
22:00.24OverloadUTIt's killing me that it doesn't show elite status on the nameplates...
22:01.17vhaarrYes, there's an addon called Nameplates on wowinterface.
22:03.03*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-71-206-92-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
22:06.11toddare there any ace respawn timers
22:06.19toddfor instance trash
22:07.33vhaarr<PROTECTED>
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22:08.15Funkeh`nightbane down ^^
22:08.24sergiovhaarr: would you care about transcripts from lower bosses in karazhan because I noticed that the maiden timer is sorta off and so is curator
22:08.39vhaarrsergio: it's not off, it's a cooldown timer
22:09.09vhaarrgz Funkeh`
22:09.15Funkeh`thanks bud =)
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22:10.54sergiovhaarr: does the curator timer check the bosses mana at all? it would be cool to see "Last add before evocation"
22:11.01sergiohonestly I didn't pay attention well enough
22:12.34RaydenUniso...
22:12.41RaydenUniany thoughts on priests for the new patch?
22:12.57Lysitheahe's dead untill he can pvpheal again
22:13.19Prophanyone have Playertargets and MT targets disappear when you enter/exit out of arenas??
22:13.48Prophin ora2
22:19.05FinOminous: you're on Stormrage-EU?
22:19.47FinNameplates only ever worked for me before the patch
22:19.53Finit's had errors every time I tried it so far
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22:20.47Finthe crosshair thing it had was brilliant - it gave you a list of nearby targets in a box, and when you moused over one it put a crosshair over the target (with the x and y axis spanning the length of the display)
22:20.56Ominousfin: yes
22:21.39Ominousfin: odd timing for you to ask as i have literally just got back after being out all evenin
22:21.51Finheh, nice
22:22.06FinOminous: what guild / class / race, if I can be nosy?
22:22.19Finwait, I'll /msg you instead, I'm sure noone else cares about Stormrage :)
22:22.35OminousFin: Abyssus Incendia/Rogue/Undead/Ominous
22:22.48Ominousbah too late:P
22:22.54Fin:)
22:26.51RaydenUnii find this very sad as my priest just got to 60
22:27.14JJSheetsMan... It's so hard to have a conversation with you two HOGGING the chat room... of course... nobody else was talking... so....
22:27.23Finhah
22:27.39Finwell, y'know, these Ace2 guys, they're very volatile
22:27.44Ominousheh
22:27.45JJSheetstrue...
22:27.48FinI wouldn't want to get told off for being offtopic
22:28.01Finget my wrists virtually slapped
22:28.02JJSheetslol
22:31.27Finyou know, there's something that really irritates me about the SMF "last updated" list of posts
22:31.51JJSheetsSMF?
22:32.09Finwhen you go there, and open all the posts from the first page that you've haven't read, then click on the next page
22:32.23Fin(Simple Machines Forum, http://www.simplemachines.org)
22:32.42Finthe page you've clicked on (page 2 of unread posts) isn't the page it was a minute ago
22:33.21Finbecause, the first page listed the first 40 unread or whatever, and once you open a page (in the background), it's counted as read, so page 2 is the end of page 2 + a bit of page 3
22:34.50Finso you have to reload page 1
22:34.57Finhmm
22:40.36wobinwell, that makes sense...
22:42.40Finyes
22:42.53Finbut it's annoying when browsing a page designed to give you easy access to unread posts
22:43.21Finand counterintuitive, if you don't realise it then you might miss posts because after clicking on page 2, some of the ones that were listed there are on page 1
22:44.00FinSMF is still way better than any other forum package I've seen, not that I've used it much
22:44.17Finor any other forum package really
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22:44.56CIA-1803wobin * r28893 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: Added in a 'Lock Waypoint frame' option to the rightclick waypointframe. When locked, will allow clickthrough in combat.
22:45.14wobinThere you go, nymbia
22:45.28nymbiathanks wobin :)
22:46.17CIA-1803sole * r28894 10Splut/Splutton.lua: Splut: Added 'macro' type to Setup function.
22:46.38Soleok wobster, Ive been thinking about what you said
22:46.44Soleand u r teh rite!
22:47.06wobin^^
22:47.20SoleI just added macro stuff ot Setup
22:47.47wobinI'm slowly moving through one of MAirleon's tutes
22:47.59wobinto see if I can get the showing and hiding going properly
22:48.05CIA-1803sole * r28895 10Splut/Splut.lua: Splut: Made type strings lowercase
22:49.19FinHUH
22:49.24FinI'VE ALWAYS PREFERRED UPPERCASE MYSELF
22:49.37FinGETS THE MESSAGE ACROSS BETTER, YOU KNOW
22:49.43FinCLEAR
22:49.45SoleU R TEH DUMB
22:49.51Soleanyway electric wants to turn off electricity
22:49.52Solelater
22:49.55wobin><
22:50.04wobinthe perils of living in Kiwiland =)
22:50.07Finhe wants to turn it off... when?
22:50.13Finohhhh
22:50.15Solenow
22:50.23wobinsee you in a bit =)
22:50.25Finbut you said he wants to turn it off later?
22:50.32Solenaw, we got the kitchen renovated and he needs to put a switch up higher on the wall
22:50.35Finplease diagram this for me
22:50.53wobin"Anyway, electric wants to turn off electricity."
22:51.02wobin"[see you] later"
22:51.33FinI hope you're, er, joking. cos uhm I was. sorry.
22:52.24Fincheese is good
22:53.38wobin"I hope you're [a good looking man who doesn't mind enjoying a good dinn]er, [and ]joking [around]. cos [although I try to avoid saying ]uhm I [am in the market for one...] [etcetc]
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22:54.00wobincouldn't be arsed doing the rest =)
22:54.07sergioIs there any nameplate addon that will adjust the distance in which you can see nameplates.  i.e. more than 30 yards or whatever
22:54.31FinoTweaks
22:54.34Finit's not a nameplate addon though
22:54.47Finhmm, actually, maybe that's minimap distance... or some other distance
22:54.59wobincombat log?
22:55.17Finit increases a distance of some sort, to a certain limit, from a lower amount
22:55.17CIA-1803nargiddley * r28896 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Improve the layout of fed controls
22:55.31sergiootweaks does tab targeting range and combatlog
22:55.43Finand camera range
22:55.45sergioI just want to see name plates on mobs I fight from 40 yards
22:55.45Nargiddleyvhaarr, take a look at that when you get a chance
22:55.51Finthanks sergio and wobin
22:56.17Finwho wants to see some juggling?
22:56.43wobinaxes?
22:56.47wobinvaccuum cleaners?
22:56.54wobinaxes and vaccuum cleaners?
22:57.24Finpeople!
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22:59.17ZealotOnAStickonly if the people, or the vaccuum cleaners, are on fire.
23:06.09break19one of my addons is not shutting down cleanly when I exit WoW, and occassionally, I get a wow error report to send to bliz... whats the best way of tracking this down? since the error doesnt *always* happen, I cant just disable addons til it stops...
23:06.13Finpeople don't catch fire very easily you know, this is not a simple request
23:06.40*** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203-118-186-231.bliink.ihug.co.nz)
23:06.48Soleand so hes back
23:06.56Solefrom out of space
23:07.09Finnew generator taking up too much room?
23:07.17Soleo_O
23:07.23Finbreak19: I hate those sorts of problems
23:07.30CIA-1803pastamancer * r28897 10Grid/ (6 files):
23:07.30CIA-18Grid:
23:07.30CIA-18- GridStatusAuras: buffs now have an opton to "Show if missing"
23:07.43Soleactually hes just moving a switch higher up on the wall so we can move up the kitchen fan/light thinger thats over the stove
23:07.50OverloadUTYES!
23:07.55Soledamn builders hung it too low =\
23:08.04OverloadUTFinally I've been waiting for that Grid feature!
23:13.50CIA-1803zealotonastick * r28898 10cyCircled/ (22 files in 2 dirs):
23:13.50CIA-18cyCircled: Commit of changes/updates provided by StormFX.
23:13.50CIA-18- Fixed a few typos in locale/enUS.lua
23:13.50CIA-18- Added LiteStep and LiteStepXLT. Credited Saynt in ToC.
23:13.50CIA-18- Added a non-gloss version of Serenity: Square.
23:13.51CIA-18- Tweaked the Serenity sets. Highlights will no longer color the "gloss" when moused over.
23:14.35FinJJSheets: can I suggest something for Omnibus?
23:14.53FinJJSheets: and if so, where would you prefer the suggestion?
23:15.02vhaarrNargiddley: sure
23:15.10JJSheetsof course!  But if it's item links in pages, it ain't happening... and you can suggest it here or in the forum post.
23:16.40Nargiddleyvhaarr, that should be everything you mentioned last night. I just have to sort out the root options
23:17.40FinJJSheets: nothing to do with links :) just: how about adding a list of the current folio's pages to the bottom of the fubar tooltip? I like to switch back and forwards between different pages a lot myself, and there's multiple menu levels to go through each time atm
23:17.51FinJJSheets: or maybe a key binding to move forward and back a page?
23:18.30Finlike, I have a bit of test code in one to check for a problem, then another bit of code in another one to try fixing it; so I switch back and forward a lot
23:18.48JJSheetsfin, the fubar tooltip already contains all folios, I could add a setting that, when enabled, hides all but the current folios contents in the tooltip...
23:19.19FinJJSheets: not the folio, the pages in the current folio, I mean
23:19.38Finhang on
23:19.51FinI'll shoot it
23:19.53JJSheetsthe pages are listed underneath the folios unless they have been hidden (by clicking on it)
23:20.25Arrowmasterso im trying to make a moveable frame in lua, but i cant get it to be movable
23:22.44vhaarrNargiddley: I haven't tried the latest checkin yet, but in addition to my other comments, I noticed that the new group tooltip stays on the entire group, and not just the header. When you expand it, hovering the subitems should give you their description.
23:23.01Finhang on, I'll shoot it, after logging into a character with it enabled
23:23.06vhaarrNargiddley: Don't know if you've fixed that already, but I'll test the latest checkin in a few minutes.
23:23.08JJSheetslol
23:24.17Nargiddleyvhaarr: haddnt noticed that one, they should have tooltips. must be getting overridden by the headers
23:24.47Finthe tinypad import didn't work :(
23:25.13CIA-1803zealotonastick * r28899 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc:
23:25.13CIA-18cyCircled:
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23:25.22CIA-1803wobin * r28900 10Splut/ (CircleSplut.lua Splut.lua Splutton.lua): Splut: oh man, it works =P Now to extend it beyond a single popout
23:25.41vhaarrNargiddley: You said you have solved the "top level options" problem, how do I get back to them?
23:25.49JJSheetsFin: Any error report, or just nothing showed up?  you may want to update and try again... there was a bug I've since fixed.
23:25.54wobinArrowmaster: Set SetDraggable and EnableMouse
23:25.56Nargiddleyvhaarr, meant i still have to look at that
23:26.03vhaarrNargiddley: ah, oka
23:26.05vhaarry
23:26.26vhaarrNargiddley: Also, what should happen when you close the group you're currently viewing needs to be figured out.
23:26.32FinJJSheets: ah, sorry - I'm being fick - I actually meant on the right click window, but I can use the tooltip itself instead to do what I was asking. sorry for the stupid request. (keybinding would be nice though :) (and could you add the option to display a label for Omnibus' FuBar thingy? icons are too small on my screen, it's nice to have more space to mouse over)
23:26.37Nargiddleyvhaarr, yeah
23:26.52FinJJSheets: there's a bugsack bug yes, sec
23:27.01vhaarrNargiddley: And the breadcrumbs on the top could be clickable, so you could add a "Top -> ..." there, for example.
23:27.03FinJJSheets: I haven't updated to the latest version though, I'll do that first
23:27.04Nargiddleyvhaarr, also i'm thinking when you open a group, select the top entry
23:27.26vhaarrNargiddley: I'd show the description for that group in the main view when clicking a group
23:27.34JJSheetsfin, updating will fix probably.. I'll keep the other requests in mind.
23:27.36vhaarror maybe that
23:27.52Nargiddleyvhaarr, that sounds good as well
23:27.58vhaarrNargiddley: hrm
23:28.05Nargiddleyvhaarr, i'll have to think about which works best
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23:28.12vhaarrNargiddley: Now I'm not sure, but neither should happen if another group is open and something is selected already
23:28.27vhaarrNargiddley: only if nothing is custom selected
23:28.30vhaarrI mean
23:28.50vhaarrNargiddley: If the user has manually selected a subentry, and that group is still open, opening another group shouldn't do anything
23:28.55vhaarrif that makes sense
23:29.03Nargiddleyvhaarr, yeah makes sense
23:29.22vhaarrNargiddley: Can I call it so that Waterfall opens with a subgroup open already, and perhaps a subgroup selected?
23:29.39vhaarrs/subgroup open/group open/
23:34.26Nargiddleydoesnt work with fed aceOptions tables atm, but I can get that working pretty easily
23:36.29Nargiddleyvhaarr, what if it was always one section open, closing it manually wouldnt work and selecting another section would switch to that one
23:36.29sergioprops to you guys for niagra and waterfall
23:36.34sergiovery cool
23:50.53ZealotOnAStickOk, I'm officially at a loss at figuring this one out.
23:51.40ZealotOnAStickI've checked, the only 3 addons I have currently that use Parser-3.0 are MobMitigation, Violation, and TopScoreFu.  I don't have Violation enabled for this character.
23:52.02ZealotOnAStickand I keep getting this error at load: http://ace.pastey.net/7164
23:52.16Soletheres a parser 3.0?
23:52.36ZealotOnAStickPrior to this login, I deleted all three of those addons, and re-updated all three of them with latest zips (with externals) from files.wowace.com
23:53.01ZealotOnAStickAnd yes, there is, Sole, mostly ckknight's doing.
23:53.32ckknightah
23:53.33ckknightokay
23:53.38ckknightlemme fix that...
23:56.56wobinI'm bludgeoning Iriel with securestate questions in wowi-lounge =P

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