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00:00.19vhaarrAs long as there is a hard dependency on Cartographer, there's no use for them.
00:00.25sylvanaarvhaarr i also have no chat on my chatframes lol
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00:00.28OverloadUT|WorkOkay, so I shouldn't even have Ace2 listed as an OptionalDep because it has a hard dependency on Cartographer?
00:00.30ckknighthey all
00:00.33vhaarrsylvanaar: that's weird :P
00:00.37vhaarrhey ckk
00:00.46ckknightOverloadUT: you should still have it listed as an optionaldep
00:00.54IronhandCartographer has database sharing options for "Trainers" and "Vendors"... how do I get it to actually pick up and/or show these points?
00:00.56ckknightin the strange event that Cartographer would stop depending on Ace2
00:01.09ckknightsuch things have happened before with FuBar
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00:01.41ckknightanyone know if it's possible to run two copies of WoW on one mac? I want to put one on /follow and run some instances
00:01.43NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: can i throw an ora2 error your way?
00:02.13NightHawkTheSaneckknight: yes, just duplicate the WoW folder in entirety, and just run two copies
00:02.20ckknightwould a ln -s work?
00:02.25OverloadUT|WorkOkay well now I'm more confused then T_T - how do I know which acelibs to put in optionaldeps, which to put in X-Embeds when I have a hard dep on Cartographer, 3 embedded acelibs, and many more acelibs not embedded because they're already embedded in cartographer
00:02.27NeoTronspeaking of cartographer, it seems like when I imported gathered data it decided that exodar was a great spot to put data in from un'goro
00:02.34NeoTronand I can't for the life of me figure out how to remove it
00:03.03vhaarrOverloadUT: What's confusing?
00:03.38vhaarrOverloadUT: Libraries that your addon depend on and *embed* are put in X-Embeds and libraries/addons that your addon could depend on are put in OptionalDeps.
00:03.42kergothOverloadUT|Work: you dont need to optdep on any libs cart provides, since you already hard dep on it.  just have the libs you embed in X-Embeds and optdeps
00:03.50kergothheh
00:04.03CIA-1803ag * r28670 10Dracul/Dracul.lua: Dracul: Bugfix, change to VT group calculation
00:04.07kergothfor any vim users out there, as an fy, you can use 'set lines' and 'set columns' to adjust the physical gvim window size
00:04.09ckknightI still recommend putting the optional deps you depend on in the addon, even if Cartographer provides it.
00:04.12OverloadUT|Workvhaarr: Well you just told me not to list any of the libs that are already in Cart in OptionalDeps, but then ckknight said to list Ace2 as an OptDep anyway
00:04.17vhaarrOverloadUT: Or you can just ignore X-Embeds alltogether, since it's an X field.
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00:04.29vhaarrOverloadUT: Yeah, but ckknight wants you to do that, so just do it.
00:04.29OverloadUT|WorkAh oh wait I see, ckknight has a different suggestion than others
00:04.32OverloadUT|WorkThat's why I was confused
00:04.36vhaarr...
00:04.47ckknightthere were issues in the past with situations like that
00:04.58ckknightwhen FuBar removed libraries from its core, for example
00:05.02ckknightCartographer might do the same
00:05.07sylvanaarvhaarr http://ace.pastey.net/6991 theres the stack
00:05.12OverloadUT|WorkAll I really want to do is to make my stupid wiki page pull the TOC data :( http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer_QuestObjectives
00:05.18ckknightthere's no guarantees that any libraries that Cartographer provides will still be there in the future
00:05.20sylvanaarvhaarr or did you mean you can produce it also
00:05.23ckknightprobably will be, but still
00:05.27vhaarrsylvanaar: I haven't tried yet
00:05.39OverloadUT|Workckknight: Isee what you mean. I thought about that; it would totally break my addon if that happened.
00:05.45ckknightright.
00:06.19kergoththen he should embed all of those as well, not just put them in optdeps
00:06.26ckknightyea, probably
00:06.34ckknightit's not a huge deal, though
00:06.55OverloadUT|WorkBut is my TOC file missing OptDeps and X-Embed the reason my wiki page isn't showing up right?
00:07.07vhaarrno
00:07.26vhaarrHave you touched the TOC since you committed it initially?
00:07.47OverloadUT|WorkYeah my latest commit updated the author field
00:08.15ckknightlol: http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF211-Atlantis.jpg#201
00:08.16vhaarrThen poke Tekkub about it.
00:10.10Industrialwhy, why must scaling torture me :| I want a frame fixed size screenwide
00:10.50binderwhat server is this? :P
00:10.57Industrialfreenode
00:11.00Industrialnetwork*
00:11.00binderoh ya
00:11.01sylvanaarall my accounts have a wierd bug where i cant disable addons
00:11.58Xueriansylvanaar: I've been getting that too.
00:12.09Xueriansylvanaar: I think it's some messed up optdeps, at first guess
00:12.26sylvanaari have no addons.txt anywhere but in my player WTF folders
00:12.41sylvanaarand it has this in it ":enabled"
00:12.52XuerianMine had that too O_o
00:12.53sylvanaaralong with all the others
00:12.56Ironhandglad to see that there's now a Cartographer_Import that can use the newer Gatherer db format - minor problem is an error generated at l.327 in Import.lua - Trying to set a note with an unknown zone: "Ungoro Crater"
00:13.05NightHawkTheSanehmm
00:13.06Ironhand(I'm guessing the ' accidentally gets filtered out somewhere)
00:13.09sylvanaarwonder what that means
00:13.28Xueriansylvanaar: Duno, but I had to completely delete my addons.txt to disable them anyway, if I recall
00:13.39sylvanaaryeah
00:13.43sylvanaarme too
00:14.02NightHawkTheSaneI was having that problem as well, ill try that..
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00:14.27XuerianMy second guess is one of the *CP addons
00:14.39sylvanaarbut they are disabled
00:14.53XuerianThen there goes that one. Only guesses, I didn't really try much.
00:15.21sylvanaarunless they can corrupt addons.txt, the problem seems to be no addons.txt for the account
00:15.37sylvanaarso when you make settings for all where do they go?
00:16.45sylvanaarmaybe there is no such thing
00:18.44sylvanaarframexml.log: 2/21 18:09:58.000  Binding header oRA2 is defined more than once in Interface\AddOns\oRA2\Bindings.xml
00:19.30vid`anyone using the ace2 kc_items yet in branches>
00:19.38vid`and if so, how is it
00:19.45Guillotineanyone know if theres an undocumented way to get Quest IDs in-game (not from data-mining)? (At least I can't find a way in wowwiki)
00:20.34GuillotineI seem to remember some addons showing quest ID a while ago, but am not sure how
00:22.34vhaarrGuillotine: no, and if it existed, Quixote would have code for it
00:23.55Guillotinethats what I figured, but wanted to make sure. Guess a cache of the quest text would be the best method then, even if it won't be able to be localized
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00:24.13kaidenAnyone know any addons that conflict with ClearFont as in stop it's ability to change the chatframe fonts?
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00:26.56kaidenKirkburn|afk, yeah i've disabled ALL addons except fubar & clearfont and it's still having issues
00:27.15Kirkburn|afkOdd. Tried a UI reload?
00:27.31kaidentons, relogs included
00:27.47Kirkburn|afkkaiden, odd
00:27.48kaidenalso replaced all fonts with the font i wanted in \World of Warcraft\Fonts
00:28.04Kirkburn|afkWell that's very odd indeed
00:28.08kaidenand it's still not using that as the font :P it's kinda funny since i thought that was the sure fire way to change it
00:28.14Kirkburn|afkIt should /certainly/ use the ArialN font
00:28.46Kirkburn|afkUnless that override has now been disabled too ... hmm
00:28.50kaidenKirkburn|afk, do you still have a copy of the Myriad Pro SemiBold Semi Condensed font that Clearfont used to use a long time ago?
00:29.44Kirkburn|afkPossibly, but I suggest looking for an older version of ClearFont atm
00:29.53Kirkburn|afkI was watching a film, remember? ;)
00:30.08Kirkburn|afkI haven't got past the first 5 mins yet :P
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00:30.15kaidenuh huh.. films are so yesterday :P
00:30.24Kirkburn|afkRush Hour ftw
00:30.30kaidenlol even an oldie ;p
00:30.57kaideni'll just find my Adobe Font OpenType cd ;)
00:31.50Kirkburn|afkheh
00:32.04Kirkburn|afkAnyway, off to bed/film now. Hope you have some luck!
00:32.16Xuerian'night :p
00:32.24kaidenyeah i'll just stab my computer a few times if it doesn't work then go to work and forget about it all :P
00:32.29kaidenenjoy your film
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00:33.18Kirkburn|afkthanks :)
00:34.23sylvanaarvhaarr well, im at a losss, and could really use someone more knowledgeable to help figure it out
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00:35.34kmb2215Thank you for Dr. Damage gagorian
00:35.38kmb2215i <3 u
00:37.01sylvanaarlike is it coincidental that you see this 2/21 18:30:51.140  Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\oRA2\Optional\MainTank.xml
00:37.25sylvanaarand then that module fails to load properly
00:37.54sylvanaarlike, doesnt that failure mean that xml file wont be loaded
00:37.58vhaarrsylvanaar: How do I reproduce then, just install Prat and make oRA2 LoD?
00:38.08sylvanaaryes
00:38.15vhaarrvery well
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00:41.32ravagernlso thats why I dont see maintankframes
00:41.55Finkaiden: http://pgl.yoyo.org/c/f/Myriad.ttf
00:41.56ckknightwoot, dual-boxing
00:41.56binder<PROTECTED>
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00:42.09ckknightgonna see if I can run my lvl 17 war through WC and such a few times
00:42.24kaidenFin, Thanks!
00:42.44ravagernlhaha ckknight, stillnot lvl 70 :P
00:42.59ckknightI made a warrior
00:43.03trh_70 is easy.. getting the epic flying mount is hard :)
00:43.03ckknightI have a lvl 41 shaman now
00:43.12vid`hehe yea i noticed that other day
00:43.13ravagernlenhancement?
00:43.17vid`when you join a raid
00:43.19NeoTron<3 epic flying mount
00:43.21NeoTronthat was easy
00:43.23vid`ora2 freaks out if prat is enabled
00:43.25kaidenckknight, quit while you can lol :P
00:43.28NeoTrongetting jewelcrafting to 360, now that was hard
00:43.28sylvanaarvhaarr you wont see the bug until you enable ora2 by clickin on it
00:43.30trh_NeoTron: ebay? :P
00:43.50NeoTrontrh_: hah no. 2xgathering professions, doing a lot of quests @70
00:44.03NeoTronhad like 3k gold when I reached 70
00:44.08binderI should have done 2x gathering until 70
00:44.14trh_NeoTron: i had only half netherstorm and shadowmoon open... and i had about 2000 gold when i finished that
00:44.14sylvanaarvid` they dont get along for some unknown reason
00:44.15NeoTronand this is on a character I started new and got to 60 1 week before BC
00:44.38NeoTronez gold came from 15-20g per stack of knothide leather..
00:44.38binderI instanced a lot
00:44.50binderI left nagrand at 69
00:44.57NeoTronand initially, ore was helluva expensive (it dropped down but I got some nice sales there)
00:44.59binderwent to the netherstorm island and dinged 70
00:45.24binderhopefully my pots will sell now that people are doing kara and stuff
00:45.26trh_i mostly sold primal mana and fire for the epic
00:45.30binderare there any shadow encounters in there?
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00:45.40NeoTrondunno
00:45.46NeoTrononly encountered 3 bosses so far
00:45.47kaidenFin, sadly that Myriad Light SemiCondensed :(
00:45.50binderI just discovered flask of shadow fortification
00:45.55binderlast night
00:46.15nymbialucky
00:46.25break19did someone make an oopsie in the last cart release? heh
00:46.38ckknightbreak19: how so?
00:46.39Finoh, you wanted SemiBold
00:47.00bindercart releases come out like every 5 minutes
00:47.08break19ckknight: well.. only bits and pieces are seeming to load
00:47.23break19[2007/02/21 18:43:02-375-x1]: ...ns\Cartographer_Noteshare\Cartographer_Noteshare.lua:178: AceLocale(Cartographer_POI): Translation "POI" does not exist.:
00:47.23break19ArkInventory\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:85: in function `error'
00:47.23break19AceLocale-2.2-27198 (ArkInventory):475: in function <...AddOns\ArkInventory\Libs\AceLocale\AceLocale-2.2.lua:473>
00:47.23break19AceLocale-2.2-27198 (ArkInventory):38: in function <...AddOns\ArkInventory\Libs\AceLocale\AceLocale-2.2.lua:36>
00:47.25break19...ns\Cartographer_Noteshare\Cartographer_Noteshare.lua:178: in main chunk:
00:47.40vid`ooo
00:47.41vid`lol
00:47.42binderdelete your wtf folder and defrag
00:47.44rubikdunno but Cartographer_QuestObjectives links externals from dev.wowace.com sooo.. that definitely doesn't work (asks for passwd on checkout)
00:47.45vid`just updated to new nameplates
00:47.53vid`and it freaked out with dongle errors
00:47.53vid`:(
00:47.55break19binder: right.. I'll get right on that.
00:48.51vid`doh new namesplates doesnt work
00:49.03vid`!
00:49.07vid`nameplates*
00:50.47break19ckknight: cart_notes appears to be failing to load, which, in turn, causes others to fail to load
00:50.54Finkaiden: I only have MyriadWeb that I can find, sorry
00:51.22ckknightwasn't me
00:51.52vid`mine loaded okay
00:51.59vid`make sure you delete corpseway if you got it
00:51.59break19lemme try to re-update.
00:52.02vid`i had all sorts of problems
00:52.08vid`cause corpseway is builtin now
00:52.23vid`i didnt know and was gettinc art errors out the ass till i deleted it
00:53.08break19corpseway hasnt worked for me in a long long time.. user-defined waypoints are golden, but i havent gotten the automatic corpse waypoints with the quips under em, in a while.
00:53.17vid`yea its builtin now
00:53.18vid`thats why
00:53.24vid`you gotta enable it under waypoints module in cart
00:53.24rubikOverloadUT|Work: please fix externals in Cartographer_QuestObjectives... don't link them off dev.wowace.com or us earthlings can't checkout
00:53.38break19vid`: maybe so.. but its still not working. :p
00:53.40kaidenFin, it's all good thank you for your help
00:53.43vid`doh break
00:53.44vid`:
00:53.45break19as in.. the built-in one isnt.
00:53.45vid`:(
00:53.51kaideni just have to find my stupid adobe opentype cd and i'll just convert the original otf back to ttf
00:53.52vid`maybe you need to clear your sv's or something
00:53.54vhaarrsylvanaar: With all the Prat modules disabled, enabling oRA2 gives me no errors.
00:53.55vid`i dunno
00:54.00break19possibly, but it's secondary
00:54.03vid`yea vhaarr, its one of the modules
00:54.08vid`no one has figured out which yet tho
00:54.15vid`cause we're all too lazy to go 1 by 1 and test it
00:54.16vid`:P
00:54.27sylvanaar*sigh*
00:54.37vid`if i get into a raid tonight
00:54.39vid`ill do it
00:54.42break19ckknight: it appears that *I* did it.. by running the lod script twice.... oops
00:54.51ckknightbad.
00:54.56ckknightwhat did you learn?
00:54.59vid`run wau :)
00:55.02vid`it does it automatically!
00:55.03vid`hehe
00:55.12break19vid`: buy me a PC and I will.. as I've stated on multiple occassions.\
00:55.16vid`doh
00:55.17vid`:(
00:55.23vid`mac?
00:55.28break19ya
00:55.32vid`theres another updater
00:55.39break19it also does not run the LOD tho.
00:55.41break19:)
00:55.41vid`but its like wau 1.6
00:55.44vid`yea
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00:56.08vid`intel mac? install windows! :p
00:56.21break19I use WUU (gui python app) and just run the lod scripts manually.. but i need to edit my personal script to make sure it hasnt been run yet first lol
00:56.26break19G4 ibook. :p
00:56.49ravagernlhttp://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/
00:56.58break19ravagernl: it doesnt run the lod scripts :p
00:57.05ravagernl-.-
00:57.20break19and it lacks several features that I like in WUU, plus WUU seems to be a lot faster
00:57.50kaiden*ponders* I switched to Fontabulous and it changes the chatfonts fine.. i wonder what's breaking in ClearFont to stop it
00:58.31ravagernlbreak19 you still want that thin font?
00:58.36vhaarrsylvanaar: All modules enabled, still no error.
00:58.42break19what thin font? huh?
00:58.43CIA-1803ag * r28671 10Dracul/ (Dracul.lua Dracul.toc libs/): Dracul: Uses IsSpellInRange/CheckInteractDistance to calculate Vampiric Touch group gains
00:58.49sylvanaarvhaarr you are running LoD?
00:58.54vhaarryes
00:58.59vhaarrsylvanaar: Remind me, what is the error?
00:59.20sylvanaarusage <unamed>:SetAlpha
00:59.40vid`ill find someone to join a raid with
00:59.44vid`so i can paste the errors
00:59.44vid`sec
00:59.47ravagernlwhen joining a raid it pops twice
00:59.50vhaarrDo you need to be in a raid?
00:59.53sylvanaarno
00:59.53vid`yes
00:59.54vhaarrI'm solo now.
01:00.01vhaarrheh
01:00.03vid`oh maybe
01:00.07vid`i dunno my ora is lod
01:00.10sylvanaarjust click on it
01:00.12vid`it only loads when i join a raid
01:00.16vid`and thats when errors pop up
01:00.19vhaarrright, so it's onload
01:00.22sylvanaarjust click on the fubar
01:00.31vid`yep
01:00.32vid`errors
01:00.34vid`sec
01:01.19vid`http://ace.pastey.net/6992
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01:01.42sylvanaarall my mods are off so i cant copy paste the errors, but i'll tell you basically, it looks like it couldnt load its sv's
01:01.51break19hm.. name association test, if I say the name Glenn Beck, whats the first thing to pop into your mind
01:01.57vid`http://ace.pastey.net/6993
01:02.01Finbeer
01:02.03vid`thats the other ora2 onload error
01:02.10Finbreak19: (Becks)
01:02.15sylvanaarif you actually make the settings
01:02.18vid`ahh
01:02.18sylvanaarand reload
01:02.21vid`i found another ora2 error
01:02.21vid`se
01:02.21sylvanaarthe errors stop
01:02.35break19Fin: I knew what you meant... I like Beck's Dark.
01:02.39vid`http://ace.pastey.net/6994
01:02.39vhaarrthat error makes no sense
01:02.43vid`thats the lats one
01:02.45vid`last*
01:02.48break19I was just seeing if there were any other sick twisted freaks besides me
01:02.56sylvanaarnone of the errors make any sense
01:03.02Finbreak19: oh, good
01:03.21ravagernlhmm, what do you think about this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6909-MecairesMacrotexter.html
01:03.23Finbreak19: what's sick and twisted about Glenn Beck?
01:03.38Finravagernl: sounds pretty nifty
01:03.42ravagernlas a hunter you could target the main assister and just nuke his target
01:03.45Finpotentialicious
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01:05.05vhaarrsylvanaar: I can't reproduce the problem here, so it's hard for me to be of any help.
01:05.46sylvanaarcan you pastey your oRA2 saved variables vharr
01:07.00vhaarrsylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/6996
01:07.02ravagernlvhaarr: Download ora2 and prat through wowaceupdater with skipexternals set to true, then try joining a raid
01:07.42vhaarrno thanks
01:08.37XuerianWhat, prat's infectious problems are rearing their ugly heads again? :p
01:08.51sylvanaarthere is a name collision in the minimap icon - they are both named "minimap"
01:09.10sylvanaarwhen i mouse over prat's minimap i get oRA2 errors
01:09.16CIA-1803rabbit * r28672 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0: /ace2 enable, disable and load can now take multiple addons.
01:09.51CIA-1803rabbit * r28673 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0: The print method now returns its text, so people can stuff it where they want.
01:10.13vhaarrXuerian: there
01:10.16Xuerian<3
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01:10.54Tricksta_Hi Hi Hai Hy
01:11.08sylvanaarvhaarr can you try deleting your sv's and see if you get the bug
01:11.28vhaarrXuerian: Of course, I forgot to credit you in the commit, sorry about that.
01:11.43Xuerianvhaarr: I care not :P
01:11.55Tricksta_Please Please Please, is there anything I can run besides warmup to tell me what addons keep growing my addon memory? Didn't Tekkub have an addon at once? Baggins seems to have a weird load on warmup
01:11.58ravagernlag`: what does Dracul do? Im seeing it on cia.navi.cx
01:12.08XuerianTricksta_: Wait till 2.1 comes out.
01:12.15Tricksta_Aye?
01:12.30ravagernlag`: nvm ill check the .toc
01:12.32XuerianTricksta_: More detailed memory analysis will be possible then. UNTIL then, just chill.
01:12.38ag`wtf, it's snowing like crazy and now my tv doesn't work.
01:12.51kaidenag`, the world is ending
01:12.53ag`ravagernl: tracks VE/VT
01:12.53kaidenhide
01:12.54Tricksta_Well I will chill, thanks its just annoyiong to see them numbers rise
01:12.56break19global warming.
01:13.01ag`kaiden: my thoughts too
01:13.06WobinEl Nino
01:13.26ravagernlag`: DOnt play a priest, but thats just awesome 0o
01:13.26ag`why would the tv stop working ever, if it wasn't because the world ended
01:13.39ag`ravagernl: it works even if you're not a priest
01:13.43ag`:P
01:13.44kaidenag`, well there are other reasons
01:13.47kaidensatan could be after you
01:13.52kaidenthat could stop your tv from working
01:13.56vhaarrsylvanaar: Sure, guess I can try that.
01:14.10kaidenwelp it's time to go work another graveyard shift at work ... :(
01:14.10Wobinhey vhaarr, what's that last change to Aconsole you did?
01:14.13Tricksta_Hmmm maybe Mazzle UI might be the way to go, seems alot of people have shown interest
01:14.13ag`well I don't think satan have any use for me
01:14.20vhaarrWobin: Did it break?
01:14.33ag`sure, if you like 50-60+ mb use, go ahead :)
01:14.40Wobinno =)
01:14.49WobinI'm just not able to get to it from here
01:14.56Wobinso was just asking for clarification as to what it does
01:14.58vhaarrWobin: ask Xuerian, it's his patch
01:15.00XuerianTricksta_: It has my addons in it. Of course it is the way to go.
01:15.25XuerianWobin: <Is opening his editor to c/p a line>
01:15.29sylvanaarthis is what mine look like: http://ace.pastey.net/6997
01:15.30ag`ravagernl: hopefully there's no bugs :D
01:15.41Wobin^^
01:16.20vhaarrsylvanaar: still no error
01:16.27vid`sylv
01:16.32vid`want to see mine since im getting the error?
01:16.45XuerianWobin: AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(YourFrame) will return the color-coded printout it dumps to the chat log, so you can insert it into something like TinyPad or OmniBus (I found out the trick while trying to dig through some 30 frames, and it handled that nicely, while the chatlog just went *dies*)
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01:17.11XuerianDoesn't change the fact that it prints it out, it just lets you grab the text :P
01:18.08sylvanaarvid` i get the error with prat and oRA2's svs deleted
01:18.14vhaarrag`: I'm going to make some food then I'll modularize violation
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01:19.15Wobinat least you're not going to violate some food
01:19.27Wobinwhile modularising 'make'
01:20.12Finsylvanaar: do you have to be able to be in a raid to try and troubleshoot this bug?
01:20.23sylvanaarmp
01:20.25sylvanaarno
01:20.36sylvanaarjust click the fubar icon that ora has
01:20.46vid`oh wow
01:20.50vid`when i mouseover the fubar icon
01:20.54vid`my error counter goes up 2
01:20.56vid`each time
01:21.03sylvanaarvhaarr is that what you are doing?
01:21.28sylvanaarvhaarr or are you using comand ling
01:21.49vhaarrsylvanaar: What? I click the fubar icon.
01:22.02vid`http://ace.pastey.net/6998
01:22.08vid`sylvanaar: thats the mouseover error
01:22.14vid`when i mouse over the fubar icon with ora2 enabled
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01:24.31vid`hmm
01:24.37vid`i updated one of the ora2 options
01:24.41vid`now i can mouseover it
01:25.05vid`gonna reloadui and try to reenable it see if errors are still present
01:26.17vid`yea still get the original 2, but the mouseover error is gone. must've been a bug with the sv, i havent been in a raid since 2.0 came out
01:27.47vid`well
01:27.50vid`i found one problem sylv
01:27.55vid`under maintank frames
01:27.59vid`alpha was set to 'a'
01:28.02vid`instead of '1'
01:28.10vid`soon as i moved the slider it went to an integer
01:28.15vid`still looking
01:28.22vid`oh yea, the scale is 1758
01:28.31vid`when 0.1->2 is range
01:29.36vid`same thing with playertargets
01:29.42vid`alpha is set to 'Alpha'
01:29.46vid`instead of an integer
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01:31.22FinI'm sure it can't be healthy for my GPU to be at 79c
01:31.29vid`yep
01:31.30vid`thats it
01:31.34vid`my ora2 errors are gone
01:31.41vid`with prat enabled
01:31.58vhaarrvid`: Doesn't matter, the bug is still there somewhere.
01:32.30vid`so maintank alpha was getting set to 'a' and playertarget alpha was getting set to 'Alpha'
01:33.29FinoRA2: add waterfall alpha, only works when waterfalllib is installed standalone. doubleclick the fubarplugin for the waterfall.
01:33.33Finer
01:33.36FinI didn't mean to paste that
01:33.59vid`gotta shiftclick actually :P
01:34.03vid`double click doesnt work
01:35.21CIA-1803overloadut * r28674 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/:
01:35.21CIA-18Cartographer_QuestObjectives:
01:35.21CIA-18-Updated SVN properties so externals don't load from dev.wowace.com
01:35.24CIA-1803sylvanaar * r28675 10Prat/extras/PratFu.lua: Prat: Removed all the integrated debugging stuff
01:35.52OverloadUT|Workrubik: There you go :)
01:36.47sylvanaarvid` yeah
01:37.04vid`that fix it for you too?
01:37.16sylvanaarvid` thats not the cause
01:37.35rubikOverloadUT|Work: ty. :P
01:38.09sylvanaarvid` it just works around the issue somehow
01:38.18vid`yea but it hasnt come back yet
01:38.31vid`so it's effecting new installs only?
01:38.43sylvanaarvid` i dont know
01:39.51FinI have enabled oRA2 and Prat, both have "Attach to minimap" option set from their FuBar plugins, but I'm not seeing any errors
01:39.53sylvanaarvid` i posted that workaround already, i know it works, but i dont know why it has anything to do with prat
01:40.18vid`ahh my bad didnt know
01:40.24sylvanaarexcept one thing
01:40.27vid`i just found it myself now goin through options based on the error msgs
01:40.38vid`thats weird that prat would have anything to do with it
01:41.05sylvanaari notice that when i mouse over prats minimap icon after the ora error, i get the ora error again
01:41.36sylvanaarbut clicking on prats minimap icon, stops that behaviour
01:42.29vid`yea the minimap error went away for me when i checked off an option in ora
01:42.33vid`it didnt matter which one
01:42.38vid`maybe sv was fubar
01:42.42vid`no pun intended
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01:43.07vid`when you edit an option, does entire sv file get rewritten line by line?
01:43.14vid`or does it just edit the line with the option
01:43.44Arrowmastersv file doesnt get written until you logout
01:43.48vid`ahh
01:43.59vid`written on reloadui i guess too?
01:44.24Finyes
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01:47.18Arrowmasterwho works on Cartograhper_Notes and Cartographer_Noteshare
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01:49.32WobinAdirelle?
01:49.56CIA-1803overloadut * r28676 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc:
01:49.56CIA-18Cartographer_QuestObjectives:
01:49.56CIA-18-An attempt to fix the TOC file so that the wiki page shows up correctly
01:51.24Arrowmasterive been having some weird issues with Noteshare and im finding some weird inconsistances between the two modules
01:51.24Fin[02:46:15] < vid`> no pun intended
01:51.24Finlies
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01:51.57OverloadUT|WorkIt still doesn't work!! GAH! What is wrong with this toc :( http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Cartographer_QuestObjectives/Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc?order=name
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01:52.16sylvanaarcan you call register defaults when you are in standby?
01:52.44Wobindepends on if you make the call in OnEnable or OnInitialize
01:52.54sylvanaaron initialize
01:53.07WobinI'd imagine it does register them then
01:53.14Wobinbut you can test that
01:53.22sylvanaarhow
01:53.34break19gahhhhhh, why do addon authors have "features" that arent listed or able to disabled?? makes it hard to find the offending addon.
01:53.50Wobinhave the addon load on standby
01:53.55Wobinthen check if the db is populated
01:54.36Wobinbreak19: It's the addon author mentatlity, "Well, -I- like that feature, that's why I put it in, cause I want it there"
01:54.48WobinIt's only when they're implementing requests that they put in toggles
01:54.50Arrowmasterhmm ok if i disable accepting of "General" notes in Noteshare it filters out ALL notes... looking at the files im not sure but it might be a mismatched arguement problem
01:55.16break19Wobin: one of them automatically blocks trades every time I log in.. and I cant figure out which it is
01:55.22sylvanaaryeah, looks like the register from a dump
01:55.41Arrowmasterbreak19: denial? or maybe one of the mailbox addons?
01:55.44sylvanaarbreak19 that is a blizzard option
01:55.58OverloadUT|WorkHey it's my favorite Wobin
01:56.02Wobin<<
01:56.03Wobin>>
01:56.05WobinWhere?
01:56.05break19sylvanaar: EVERY time I log in, it's reset to blocked, even tho I tell it to not block trades
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01:56.17sylvanaarit is a bliz option
01:56.18OverloadUT|WorkI've got a teeny feature request for Cart_Waypoints
01:56.45Wobinwhazzat?
01:57.00OverloadUT|WorkAdd the ability for a module to supply its own text for display below the arrow.
01:57.14Arrowmasterdoes this look right or not... in Cartographer_Notes theres this line
01:57.16OverloadUT|WorkSimilar to how notes can have custom alpha, size, right click menus, etc.
01:57.16Arrowmasterif not self:AcceptIncomingNote(zone, x, y, real_icon, data_creator, real_data, sender, fullSender) then
01:57.36OverloadUT|WorkRight now it's hard coded to the title
01:57.36WobinOverloadUT: like what sort of thing?
01:57.41Arrowmasterand Cartographer_Noteshare does this
01:57.43Arrowmasterself:Hook(Cartographer_Notes,"AcceptIncomingNote")
01:57.50Arrowmasterfunction Cartographer_Noteshare:AcceptIncomingNote(cart_note_ref, zone, x, y, icon, creator, data, sender, fullSender)
01:58.38OverloadUT|WorkBasically I'd like to be able to do a mod:OnWaypointTextRequest that would work just like mod:OnNoteTooltipRequest
01:58.48OverloadUT|WorkSo I can do my own calculations and decide what the arrow should say
01:58.50break19Arrowmaster: the only two things I can think of, that would be doing it, Postal, and Assister, neither of which has an option for it
01:59.08Finbreak19: ah, I have that problem
01:59.12Ironhandhow/when are Cartographer notes of the "Vendor" type normally created?
01:59.14Finbreak19: do you have Automaton installed?
01:59.20break19Fin: nope
01:59.33WobinOverloadUT: If you inherit WayPoint.lua you can do all sorts of nifty things
01:59.34Finwell, if you figure it out post something in the forums please or at least say on IRC :)
01:59.52Arrowmasterbreak19: i think postal had a feature to block trades at mailbox i would suggest disabling it and seeing if the option keeps getting enabled
02:00.05WobinI just have to put in an API call to 'add' in custom waypoints, as long as they're using the right interface
02:00.27Finbreak19: mine kept resetting itself even when I unchecked it in Interface Options
02:01.04Finand Automaton doesn't do that, I was thinking of the Guild Invite decline thing
02:01.27OverloadUT|WorkWobin: Oh I see now. I haven't used AceOO yet so now's the time to learn I suppose
02:01.27break19Arrowmaster, Fin: according to the code, it's only supposed to block while using the mailbox, and supposed to unblock it once you close the mailbox frame..
02:01.35break19revv: postal
02:01.41break19errr regarding postal
02:01.42Arrowmasterpeople were reporting it was borken
02:01.43Arrowmasteri think
02:02.01OverloadUT|Work:Print() for the win
02:02.22Finbreak19: the tooltip says "Block all incoming trade requests"
02:02.32CIA-1803rophy * r28677 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua:
02:02.32CIA-18ParserLib-1.1:
02:02.32CIA-18- Added more TBC new patterns.
02:02.38break19Fin: you have a tooltip for postal?
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02:03.36Finbreak19: er, sorry, I'm not keeping track of the conversation
02:03.38OverloadUT|WorkSexual favors to the first person who tells me why my TOC is not working. The Wiki is not automatically grabbing it. :( http://www.wowace.com/trac/export/28676/trunk/Cartographer_QuestObjectives/Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc
02:03.48FinI thought you were talking about the checkbox in Interface Options
02:04.00WobinOverloadUT: doesn't Tekkub have to run a script?
02:04.05break19Fin: what I'm saying is.. according the Postal lua code.. it registers the events mail_show and mail_closed, and blocks all trades upon receiving the event mail_show, and unblocks upon the latter
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02:04.56Arrowmasterbreak19: disable postal and see if trade blocking gets enabled on login again
02:05.10OverloadUT|WorkWobin: From the wiki: "TOC Data pages are automatically generated by the SVN whenever a .toc file is changed in trunk. Please note that only one TOC file is updated per commit, so stick to the "one addon per commit" rule if you want your pages updated!"
02:05.14break19Arrowmaster: I'm sure it wont
02:05.19OverloadUT|WorkMaybe it's wrong? Hopefully.
02:05.20Finbreak19: right, gotcha, and yeah...
02:05.21Arrowmasterbreak19: so test it
02:05.44WobinOverloadUT: It has to be initialised first by the script
02:05.53break19Arrowmaster: the problem is.. it doesnt *always* block em
02:06.03WobinI think
02:06.20break19sometimes I can go 2 or 3 days without it blocking any trades, then all of a sudden my trades start getting blocked :p
02:06.30OverloadUT|WorkIt would make sense. And would have saved me a lot of banging my head against the wall ;)
02:07.33NightHawkTheSaneOverloadUT|Work: you may want to add a "Dependencies" field for cartographer, if that's required for the mod
02:08.29OverloadUT|WorkDoh! Of course. I had that but it got lost in my confusing juggling of two working directories :P
02:09.09break19Arrowmaster: but honestly, theres no need to disable postal, even if it's the cause, just disable the offending module, by editing the toc, and placing a # in front of the file for TradeBlock.lua :)
02:09.35ClickmandooI am currently running cartographer and metamap and its very annoying.
02:09.49CIA-1803overloadut * r28678 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc:
02:09.49CIA-18Cartographer_QuestObjectives:
02:09.49CIA-18-Added dependencies
02:09.53break19Clickmandoo: I'm sure it is.. pick one or the other
02:10.10ClickmandooWell metamap i have set map notes all over..
02:10.16ClickmandooLike 1000's
02:11.03Wobinoh man
02:11.14WobinDavid Eddings == Somewhat Stupid
02:11.46OverloadUT|WorkWhat are the shapes that you can put above mobs' heads actually called? Marks? Raid Targets?
02:12.02OverloadUT|WorkI'm trying to come up with a witty name for an addon that allows anyone in the party to mark targets
02:12.03Wobinhttp://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20070126/NEWS/101260101
02:12.04ZealotOnAStickRaid Icons
02:12.18WobinLuckyCharms
02:12.22Wobinbut that's already taken =P
02:12.42Wobinand how are you going to do that, Over?
02:13.26OverloadUT|WorkIt'll accept a whisper command, like ".mark Star" then it'll find the unitid of the member who sent it, and mark the unitidtarget
02:13.27FinWobin: why's Eddings fick?
02:13.48WobinFin: see the link
02:13.51OverloadUT|WorkThen I can just have my friends set a macro to "/t OverloadUT .mark Star" to mark something
02:13.59FinOverloadUT|Work: Markty!
02:14.33Fin"lapse of judgement"
02:14.54Finyyyess...
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02:24.34sylvanaarok after hours wasted, i decided to code prat similarly to oRA2, guess what, prat has bugs now
02:25.00mjcdreamchat should be a prat module ;)
02:25.12sylvanaarno, it should be its own thig
02:25.13vhaarrsylvanaar: I wouldn't do that, oRA2 is pretty old.
02:25.28vhaarrsylvanaar: If I did it now it would look pretty different.
02:25.34sylvanaarvhaarr self.secureframes = {}
02:25.40sylvanaarin onenable
02:26.10vhaarrI know, it's ugly.
02:26.25sylvanaaris it possibly the bug
02:27.11vhaarrwhy?
02:29.08sylvanaarjust asking, gotta narrow it down somehow
02:29.43vhaarrah, I thought you said "it is"
02:29.55vhaarrfrankly, reading this code makes me want to redo much of it
02:31.46WobinHehe
02:31.57WobinYou're like a ck =P
02:33.31vhaarrThe communication should be abstracted away so that you could plug in a sane communication scheme for raids without CTRA in them.
02:35.35hyperChipmunkWobin: ouch, that's harsh
02:35.40sylvanaarvhaarr yeah, i know what you mean, that was my first mod idea (abstract interaddon communication)
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02:36.24Wobina sane communications scheme? "Now settle down, I'm sure we can figure this out without recourse to violence... Mr Ragnaros, now what is your problem with these fine people visiting your house..."
02:36.36JJSheetslol
02:37.34Bejitt-hmm are there not categories for ace libraries? the names can be so obscure so it's odd to figure out what's what
02:38.11WobinIt's true.
02:38.27Bejitt-for instance: Metrognome
02:38.28WobinThe Ace naming scheme tends more towards the clever than the immediately useful.
02:38.34Bejitt-haha
02:38.35WobinTiming, duh =)
02:38.44JJSheetsHas anybody tried out the new Omnibus and come up with a feature request?
02:38.53WobinWill it heal my raid?
02:38.58OverloadUT|WorkQuick! What is the best way to do something when you receive a whisper. Is there an acelib or should I use the good 'ol Blizzard event?
02:39.10FinI really wish it as possible to alt-tab at the load screen
02:39.11Wobinuse the good old blizzard event
02:39.18trh_but with aceevent-2.0
02:39.20WobinFin: it is.
02:39.24WobinWith windowed
02:39.26OverloadUT|WorkFin: Run the game in a window "maximized" and you can
02:39.39CIA-1803rabbit * r28679 10oRA2/Optional/ (MainTank.lua PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: Optional/MT+PT: Don't re-create frames every OnEnable.
02:39.45FinOverloadUT|Work: there's a mod called AutoRespond that might help
02:40.02WobinYou could also look at HeyFu
02:40.09Wobinfor the whisper functionality
02:40.12FinI've tried running in desktop mode, I can't get the contrast to be something other than shit
02:40.27FinHeyFu's one of my favouritest ever addons in the whole wide world
02:40.34OverloadUT|WorkThe problem is there are so many crazy ace libraries out there, it's easy to lose track of whether it's better to use a library, or just Blizzard events :P
02:40.44OverloadUT|WorkMaybe I should check out HeyFu then...
02:40.54WobinFubar_HeyFu
02:41.09WobinAlthough I could break it from Fubar
02:41.19WobinBut that'd necessitate changing the entire name =P
02:41.24Finit was great as a guild master, saved me from going mmm
02:41.25Finmmm
02:41.27Finmmaaad
02:41.50OverloadUT|WorkI decided to name my addon having to do with "marking" targets "Marklar
02:42.04JJSheetsMARKLAR!!!!
02:42.13FinDer Markerliser
02:42.32Finyou can have a Marklarasm
02:42.47trh_Marksman
02:43.16mjcTheAntiHunter
02:43.18FinI think Prat needs a module for some sort of gasm
02:43.26Wobin'or'
02:43.28FinMark My Words
02:43.29mjcPratgasm
02:43.34Finactually that's quite appropriate
02:43.40Finsince people will be whispering to trigger markage
02:43.42Wobin"I just had an intense pratgasm"?
02:43.48OverloadUT|WorkI kind of like that
02:43.48mjchahah
02:43.58OverloadUT|WorkCode first, decide on final name later :P
02:44.15Fin"I just Prat all over the place"
02:44.23OverloadUT|WorkWhoa
02:44.30trh_ew
02:44.32JJSheetslol Fin
02:44.34OverloadUT|Work_______|_______ X
02:44.36OverloadUT|WorkYou're the X
02:44.40OverloadUT|WorkThat thing in the middle is the line
02:44.45JJSheetsrofl
02:44.49trh_lol
02:44.50OverloadUT|Work:P
02:44.55Finno! I know what Prat needs - a SUPERHERO
02:45.01Finholy cow Pratman!
02:45.07FinKAPOWEE
02:45.16JJSheetsKaPrat
02:45.28trh_i'm waiting for a addon called "deadbeef" that laughs at dead tauren players :)
02:45.37JJSheetstrh_, hahahahahahaha
02:45.49OverloadUT|WorkI was going to write an Ace2 mod that just takes up a lot of memory
02:45.56JJSheetsyou could call it filet moo-ron
02:45.59Fingo on...
02:46.04OverloadUT|WorkTo satisfy the people that say "Just because it's Ace2 doesn't mean it's memory efficient"
02:46.19JJSheetslol
02:46.20Fingood idea, but I think it's been done
02:46.59OverloadUT|WorkIt's probably been done in a serious whiney way. I could make it all pretty, with a FuBar plugin to show exactly how much memory its wasted!
02:47.39trh_OverloadUT: you could name it stresstest or something and say its useful for testing... ;)
02:47.59OverloadUT|WorkHaha. Hey crap I would probably actually use it for that.
02:48.06OverloadUT|WorkDamn, now it's useful. Okay I'm not making it now.
02:48.14trh_lol
02:48.26JJSheetsnobody likes a quitter, OverloadUT
02:48.28JJSheetsheheh
02:48.54trh_i'm actually working on the greatest mod ever
02:49.09trh_a mod with whom you can do that monkey island pirate fights in wow
02:49.19OverloadUT|WorkDid anyone here use my addon GarrTarget way back in the day?
02:49.30OverloadUT|Worktrh_: That... is awesome.
02:49.45trh_OverloadUT: its legend.... wait for it.... ary!
02:50.09sylvanaarok, i can see that the PlayerTarget module doesnt have its .db.default.profile set up correctly
02:50.24binderhmm
02:50.39sylvanaardoesnt have the right data in it
02:50.40hyperChipmunktrh_: You fight like a cow.
02:51.12trh_hyperChipmunk: I'm rubber, you are glue!
02:52.16trh_hyperChipmunk: Killing you would be justifiable homicide!
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02:54.48hyperChipmunktrh_: then killing you would be justifiable fungicide!
02:55.09trh_damn.. he googled it :P
02:55.49trh_hyperChipmunk: Behind you!!! A 3-headed monkey!
02:56.33OverloadUT|WorkJJSheets: You can still play it! Google SCUMM!
02:56.52JJSheetsbah... I'm busy with WoW.  :)
02:57.07Finquestion
02:57.17OverloadUT|WorkYou can play it on your PC, Mac, Xbox, Phone, Nintendo DS.... :P
02:57.26trh_i got it on my PDA :)
02:57.35Fintechnically it should be possible to create just one addon that just includes all the other addons that you've got installed, right?
02:57.36OverloadUT|WorkMe too but I've never actually played it
02:57.42OverloadUT|WorkI just fire it up to impress people :P
02:57.45Finand a fairly big .toc
02:58.21JJSheetswhy would you want to Fin?
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02:59.34FinI'm not sure I would
03:00.10OverloadUT|WorkWhat is the easiest way to suppress a whisper? I did it years ago fairly simply but I can't remmeber how
03:00.26Finjust wondering - I was trying to think of a reason it wouldn't work and couldn't... I guess locals would break, but can you local something then local something else and have it re-localled?
03:00.37Finwould speed up loading a bit though eh
03:00.39vhaarrOverloadUT: What you did years ago would not be appropriate now.
03:00.56vhaarrOverloadUT: AceComm and BigWigs\RaidWarn.lua has code that does it.
03:01.14OverloadUT|Workk I'll take a look, thanks
03:01.20vhaarrBW\Plugins\RaidWarn, that is
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03:02.56Finit would have to be called megaddon I think
03:04.06Finor ultraddon
03:04.12Finmegultraddon
03:04.34JJSheetsuberaddon
03:05.43Ra1d3nmetaddon
03:06.10Ra1d3nbam ba bam
03:06.23Ra1d3ngonna reserve that url
03:06.29Ra1d3nmetaddon.org
03:06.31Ra1d3nhaha
03:06.40OverloadUT|WorkError on line 2. Not off to a good start...
03:06.50sylvanaari dont see how prat can mess up the Load With Core stuff that is maually triggered by /ora standby sheer insanity
03:06.56Finnono
03:07.01Finthe errors would have to be much more epic
03:07.06Fina big popup
03:07.21FinUBERMETULTRADDON ERROR!
03:07.26Ra1d3nin epix color
03:07.28FinSYSTEM FAILURE
03:07.42Ra1d3nTHE WORLD IS GONNA END
03:07.47Ra1d3n:)
03:07.48JJSheetsOWND
03:07.54Finsylvanaar: I've never got oRA to work with the standby setting, it would never re-enable
03:08.41Finunimplemented commands would just print ** NO ** to the screen
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03:12.46syerenDoes anyone's SCT work since the latest WAU?
03:13.26KolthNope.
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03:13.37KolthHaven't checked why though.
03:14.10FinChatEdit_ParseText only gets called when the user presses space, right? is there a function that's called on space or eol?
03:15.34syerenAnyone suggest an addon that allows me to either remove or move the bottome right tool tip?
03:16.13ggilbertsyeren: I think LitheTooltipDoctor was in svn
03:16.37Finguess I can just hook ChatFrameEditBox:OnEnterPressed
03:16.46syerenMuch love ggilbert :)
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03:22.57syerenCan't wait untill Blizzard fix the 'Disconnect and make my team lose in the arena' issue :p
03:24.57Chompersthe world is going to end ? :O
03:25.00Chompers4 8 15 16 23 42
03:25.15Chompersthere we go, saved it
03:25.53Chomperslost reference? no one?  bah :<
03:27.24FinI feel cheated
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03:30.22SapiensHmm.
03:30.31sylvanaarI DONT BELIEVE IT
03:30.38SapiensSomeone asked for the errors oRA2 was throwing, does anyone still need to see them?
03:31.00sylvanaarGLOBAL VARIABLES ARE EVIL
03:31.05sylvanaarDONT USE THEM
03:31.17vhaarrI suspected as much :)
03:31.38vhaarrsylvanaar: So it's both oRA2 and Prat's fault, then?
03:31.59sylvanaari swear mine are local
03:32.16vhaarrThey can't be if they're affected by oRA2.
03:32.29sylvanaarora references opts in RegisterModule
03:32.45sylvanaaropts is a global from somesomething
03:33.06vhaarrYeah, that code is copied from BigWigs.
03:33.08break19vhaarr: i could be wrong, but dont global vars override any local vars with the same name?
03:33.17vhaarrbreak19: No.
03:33.24vhaarrThe other way around.
03:33.27Sapienshttp://sapiens.staticservers.com/oRA2.txt
03:33.28SapiensThere ya go.
03:33.30sylvanaarok, well ora doesnt need opts at all
03:33.37vhaarrsylvanaar: I know, I see that now.
03:33.57vhaarrsylvanaar: Want to remove it or should I?
03:34.32sylvanaaryou can, better that way
03:34.48vhaarrsylvanaar: I think haste has some script that checks what variables an addon pollutes the global scope with.
03:35.34WobinI <3 George Takei
03:35.41sylvanaaryeah, well, i can sleep now at least
03:35.48ggilbertGeorge Takei rocks
03:35.51Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA20dKc3kK8&eurl=
03:36.02WobinHonestly, that has to be the best comeback -ever- =)
03:36.07CIA-1803rabbit * r28680 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Core: Don't try to access the global |opts| object, set by some evul addon. Thanks to sylvanaar for tracking down the problem.
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03:37.53OverloadUT|WorkMan I am having major problems trying to suppress whispers using BigWigs method with Prat installed
03:37.56Finsylvanaar: you *can* sleep, but are you actually *going* to? :)
03:38.10break19Wobin: roflmao
03:39.54sylvanaarlol no
03:40.37syerenHmm..
03:40.44sylvanaarOverloadUT that doesnt surprise me
03:40.47syerenWho did the latest SCT revision?
03:40.49syeren:P
03:41.04syerenAnd if I post the error in here, any chance anyone will know what's wrong with it :P?
03:41.07vhaarrThere's nothing wrong with SCT.
03:41.11syerenPlaying with Blizzard's SCT makes me cry :/
03:41.22vhaarrParser-1.1 was hosed for a while, but it should be fixed now.
03:41.36sylvanaarOverloadUT prat tricks most addons into thinking that the chat message has been printed
03:42.43syeren[2007/02/22 03:40:49-270-x1]: sct\sct.lua:15: attempt to index global 'ParserLib' (a nil value)
03:42.43syeren---
03:42.46OverloadUT|Worksylvanaar: I figured it out. oRA hooks ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler which causes tons of wacky behavior with Prat. But I am able to suppress it just fine if I hook ChatFrame_OnEvent
03:42.48CIA-1803kaelten * r28681 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:
03:42.48CIA-18uiQuery:
03:42.48CIA-18- :CreateChildren(type, [name], [template], [number])
03:42.48CIA-18-- Note that the actually name will be in the format of parent:GetName()..name..iteration if name is nil it will have no name if parent:GetName() is nil it will only have name..iteration as its name.
03:42.58OverloadUT|WorkThanks DontBugMe! 25 lines of very educational code :P
03:43.18syerenSo I just downloaded Parser and everything will work vhaarr?
03:43.19sylvanaarOverloadUT with Prat you should listen for prat's event, and tell prat to filter that
03:43.49ckknightKaelten-Laptop: I thought of an interesting idea that could become part of uiQuery
03:43.51sylvanaarOverloadUT look at the Filtering module in Prat
03:43.58Kaelten-Laptopckknight: whats that?
03:44.10ckknightsince you create frames with uiQuery, you could also delete with uiQuery
03:44.15ckknightand have recycling built in
03:44.16ckknightproperly
03:44.18OverloadUT|Worksylvanaar: I don't like that method personally, because then what happens when another chat mod comes along, and then another? I have to keep updating my mod just because they break? I'd rather find a higher level event to stop Prat from seeing it at all :P
03:44.28ckknightwhile still being controlled and such
03:44.38Kaelten-Laptophrm
03:44.45sylvanaarOverloadUT thats kinda the point of prat tho
03:44.48Kaelten-Laptopthats a possibility
03:44.50OverloadUT|WorkBut I will look at it regardless because I do like Prat a lot :P
03:44.52Kaelten-Laptopkinda a compost for frames
03:45.11OverloadUT|WorkOkay going home, see ya
03:45.12ckknightyea
03:45.28sylvanaarOverloadUT to have chat related stuff go through prat rather than access the blizzard stuff directly
03:45.49ckknightjust a thought
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03:46.27FinOverloadUT: it's really easy for other addons to hook into Prat's chat message bits
03:46.51sylvanaarjust I have been lax in documenting all of it
03:48.20Kaelten-LaptopI'll work on it and put it in ckknight unless I find a problem with its feasibility
03:48.30Prophis bigwigs timers off with Maiden's repentence timers??
03:48.44Kaelten-Laptopheh, I've found myself using uiQuery from within its complex functions
03:48.48ckknightKaelten-Laptop: only big issue is :GetName() and such
03:49.12break19Kaelten-Laptop: nice work with the latest rev of KCI2. startin to look pretty good there;
03:49.17Kaelten-Laptopis there a SetName()?
03:49.29ckknightno, but you could overwrite :GetName()
03:49.38ckknightafaik, it's not a problem
03:49.45Kaelten-Laptophrm
03:49.49ckknightyou overwrite :GetName(), and change the globals around
03:50.11Kaelten-Laptopeither that or I could just only use the cache on unnamed frames
03:50.41ckknighteither way
03:50.53Kaelten-Laptopgetglobal wouldn't work well with that would it?
03:50.57vhaarrhm, that would be pretty nice, should also make it able to act as a mixin then, so that frames are "destroyed" on disable
03:51.04break19well.. i better sleep, or the interstate will be shut down for a few hours when I roll my truck cuz I fell asleep. :p so.. nite all
03:51.07ckknightKaelten-Laptop: if you change the globals, it'd work properly
03:51.14Prophis bigwigs timers off with Maiden's repentence timers??
03:51.26ckknightvhaarr: quite true.
03:51.29Kaelten-Laptopckknight: _G["name1"] = frame
03:51.31vhaarrProph: It's a cooldown.
03:51.35Kaelten-Laptop?
03:51.36ckknightKaelten-Laptop: yea.
03:51.41ckknight_G["oldname"] = nil
03:51.43ckknighttada
03:51.48ckknightand then overwrite :GetName()
03:51.52ckknightand you have a new frame ;-)
03:53.12vhaarrBut you'd need a default state for frames, then, since not all addons set all properties?
03:53.29vhaarrSo it would have to reset the frame to default values when recycling it.
03:53.31Prophvhaarr: is the repentence on a 45min CD?
03:53.38vhaarrProph: eh, no
03:53.45Prophwhats the timer on it?
03:53.46FinWobin: do you take feature requests for HeyFu via IRC?
03:53.50Prophwhen maiden does it
03:54.11Kaelten-Laptopvhaarr: yep, and that'd be the hard part is figuring out what the default state is?
03:54.17vhaarrProph: 33sec cooldown
03:54.18ckknightvhaarr: on :Delete, you'd put it back to a blank state
03:54.27vhaarrKaelten-Laptop: indeed
03:54.34vhaarrckknight: yes but what is the default state?
03:54.39vhaarrwell
03:54.44Prophhmm i think some blue said it's 45secs now..instead of 30
03:54.49ckknightdifferent depending on the object type, but it can be handled
03:54.55vhaarrKaelten-Laptop: Just do a CreateFrame("name") and iterate it - that would be the default state.
03:55.04vhaarroh yeah, for each object type
03:55.21vhaarrProph: no, I did her tonight and the cooldown seemed appropriate
03:55.27Kaelten-Laptopya, heh, I could write some standard uiTemplates for the blank states
03:55.29Kaelten-Laptoplol
03:55.42vhaarr^^
03:55.49Prophso every 33secs vhaar? it does repentence
03:56.00vhaarrKaelten-Laptop: well you don't have to create the default states unless someone uses uiQuery to create a frame of that type
03:56.06vhaarrProph: no
03:56.10vhaarrProph: 33sec *cooldown*.
03:56.23vhaarrProph: Which means that it might happen after 33 sec and it might *never* happen again.
03:56.32vhaarrthat's up to the boss.
03:57.19vhaarrProph: I play a priest there, so what I do is that when there's 5 sec left of the bar, I go inside her aura, so that I take damage every 2 seconds
03:57.32vhaarrProph: then, when I'm stunned, the aura breaks the stun and I can heal the tank
03:57.59vhaarrProph: of course, when I'm inside the aura, I can't heal, since it silences, so some other priest heals then.
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03:58.12Solehi kids
03:58.16vhaarrwe are 2 healers only, works fine for us.
03:58.46Prophyah we can't seem to time the repentence
03:58.54Funkeh`vhaarr
03:58.56vhaarrProph: You don't have to, BigWigs does it for you.
03:58.59Funkeh`lol, never thought of that
03:59.02Funkeh`going inside the aura
03:59.03vhaarrFunkeh`: nub :P
03:59.17Funkeh`we always relied on the paladin healing everyone
03:59.22vhaarrwe don't have a paladin
03:59.23Funkeh`putting sacrifice on the tank
03:59.27Funkeh`ahh :p
03:59.32vhaarrand we don't have a treeform druid
03:59.36vhaarrthey are immune to the stun
03:59.42vhaarrwe just have a feral druid
03:59.49vhaarrso we had to come up with our own strategy
04:00.09vhaarrFunkeh`: Of course, I position myself as far away from the tank as possible, on the very edge of the aura.
04:00.15Prophthanks vhaar
04:00.20vhaarrProph: np
04:00.23Funkeh`no vhaarr, they fixed that
04:00.28Funkeh`trees get stuned now
04:00.32vhaarrah
04:00.41vhaarrwell that's what others told us when we asked in General in kara
04:00.48vhaarr"you need a paladin or a tree druid"
04:00.57vhaarrso we thought "no way" and I figured it out ^^
04:01.07Funkeh`lol
04:01.13Funkeh`well fuck that
04:01.14Funkeh`:p
04:01.23vhaarrfuck what? it works like a charm :)
04:02.02Funkeh`we use a very mixed raid, feral druid, tree druids, pala, tank, its wierd, we have more than 10 and usually re-configure according to boss
04:02.12Funkeh`we killed all the way upto malch today, 1 night, new record
04:02.23vhaarrnice
04:02.29Funkeh`now the rest of the week wiping on ingthbane, oh joy!
04:02.33Funkeh`nightbane*
04:02.39vhaarrwe had to learn a new encounter at the opera, if not we would've been on prince as well I think
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04:02.59Funkeh`still haven't done wizardofoz ourselves :/
04:03.12vhaarrwe only got that up to today, when we got romulo
04:03.13CIA-1803sylvanaar * r28682 10Prat/modules/ServerNames.lua: Prat: used opts before declaring in GetServerCLR
04:03.23Funkeh`had romulo today, hate it :p
04:03.25vhaarrnever had the wolf yet ><
04:03.32Funkeh`wolf is fun
04:03.35Funkeh`gnomes!
04:03.36vhaarrI can imagine
04:03.40vhaarrgnoems ?!
04:03.47Funkeh`yeah you turn into a gnome
04:03.50Funkeh`with the hood
04:03.51vhaarrhaha
04:03.56vhaarrcool
04:04.00Funkeh`yeah :p
04:08.07sylvanaarthat explains 2 parts of the equation but the actual owner of "opts" still unknown
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04:08.54vhaarrsylvanaar: No, that explains it all.
04:09.11vhaarrsylvanaar: You declared the |opts| global right there.
04:09.47Finisn't the problem that another addon declared it global also?
04:09.52vhaarrno
04:10.02JJSheetsglobals are not declared global...
04:10.08vhaarrAssigning things in lua creates the variable as well if it doesn't exist.
04:10.10JJSheetsthey are just set to anything but nil
04:10.17Finwell, not declared it global, but accessed it as if it were global?
04:10.43JJSheetsonly way to access a global is with getglobal or by having not declared a local with the same identifier.
04:11.00sylvanaaryeah, thats what happened
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04:11.40JJSheetsvariables are global by default unless contained within another table, declared local, or defined as an argument name in a function declaration.
04:11.45Finright
04:11.51sylvanaari left out local in some obscure function
04:12.22Finso... ServerNames used "opts" as a global (or, didn't declare it local), which was wrong
04:12.28JJSheetsand an "undefined" global is simply one that is set to nil.
04:12.30sylvanaaryep
04:12.40Finbut what I was asking is, isn't there another addon that's doing the same thing?
04:12.45Arrowmasterso that cuased the oRA2 bug?
04:12.48vhaarrFin: no
04:12.50vhaarrArrowmaster: yes
04:12.58Finvhaarr: why is it a problem then?
04:13.00Arrowmasterso then isnt that an oRA2 bug too?
04:13.06vhaarrFin: Because oRA2 tried to access it.
04:13.06sylvanaarora was using the global "opts"
04:13.13vhaarrIt never set it.
04:13.13JJSheetsit's quite possible, but that wouldn't cause another addon accessing a local variable of the same name to use the global.
04:13.23sylvanaarand prat accidentally declared it
04:13.39Finbut oRA2 doesn't declare opts as local, does it? and it should?
04:13.47vhaarrFin: no, no
04:14.08sylvanaarit was just copy/paste error in ora ors didnt really use it at all
04:14.32vhaarrThe oRA2 code was copied from BigWigs, and not cleaned up properly.
04:14.33Arrowmasterso then it should also be removed from ora to truely fix the big
04:14.38vhaarrI've already done that.
04:14.39Arrowmasterbug*
04:14.53sylvanaarvharr did yeah
04:14.54FinArrowmaster: that's what I was trying to work out
04:15.08vhaarrFin: We've already worked it out.
04:15.54sylvanaarok, then i think that was the only case where that occurs in prat
04:15.59Finvhaarr: I just wanted to understand what was going on
04:16.09vhaarrright
04:17.42sylvanaari guess i forget lua has no automatic scope
04:18.25vhaarrA fun exercise might be to do /script AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):ScheduleRepeatingEvent("GlobalTest", function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Global _:" .. tostring(getglobal("_"))) end, 10)
04:18.48vhaarrand then play as you usually do
04:18.54Kaelten-Laptoplol
04:19.05JJSheetsvhaarr, lol that would be REAL interesting..
04:19.08vhaarr:P
04:19.12sylvanaarno doubt
04:19.36JJSheetsbut you ought to add a check to not print when _ is nil.  :p
04:19.48vhaarrJJSheets: Or maybe you need to read up on tostring().
04:19.49JJSheetsdon't wanna get TOO spammed...
04:19.54sylvanaarhaha
04:19.54vhaarrah
04:19.56vhaarrwell maybe
04:20.07JJSheetstostring returns "nil" when passed nil...
04:20.13vhaarrI know.
04:20.18JJSheetsor am I on some good crack right now...
04:20.28Kaelten-Laptoptyped it
04:20.38JJSheetsokay... I jsut don't wanna see nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil
04:20.45JJSheetss/jsut/just/
04:21.09Kaelten-Laptop23?
04:21.12Kaelten-Laptoplol
04:21.15vhaarrhaha
04:21.28vhaarrbah now I want to do it as well
04:21.51JJSheetsooh... I could make that into an autorun script in Omnibus and always see it...
04:22.23Kaelten-Laptophrm now its back to nil
04:22.44Kaelten-Laptopnow does this mean that we need to set local _ at the top of each of our files now?
04:23.00JJSheetsrofl
04:23.29vhaarrbah, it's nil here, how boring
04:23.45JJSheetslol
04:23.48vhaarroooh, ClearFont2 taints it!
04:23.56vhaarr:P
04:23.59Kaelten-Laptopohh mine got set to Interface\Addons\ClearFont2Fonts\Calibri_v1\Calibri.ttf for a min
04:24.04vhaarryeah me too, haha
04:24.41sylvanaaryeah
04:24.54vhaarrgetting 'i', 'k' and 'v' might be interesting as well ^^
04:25.17sylvanaarmine keeps saying my class
04:25.19vhaarrI've begun declaring when I use them though
04:25.59Arrowmasterhmm /print _ is 1 for me
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04:28.35Kaelten-Laptopvhaarr: all four of mine are nil :(
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04:28.42vhaarrbah, how boring ><
04:28.52sylvanaarthat sorta makes sense, since prat uses _ in all its calls to query class
04:29.11Krayakincan anyone think of a mod that would split stacks. i used to have something that when i alt+shift+right click would automatically split a stack in half
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04:31.36Kaelten-LaptopKrayakin: Fence?
04:32.57Kaelten-LaptopI find it amusing that everone is calling the branch KCI2 when its not
04:33.15Krayakini think that might be it, thanks kaelten
04:33.27Kaelten-Laptopits actually 1.0
04:33.29Kaelten-Laptoplol
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04:36.04vhaarrGet a load of this guy: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4917.0
04:36.11vhaarrShould I just re-post my original answer?
04:36.13CIA-1803sylvanaar * r28683 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Removed a debug option, added in commented out code to do toggle* on modules so they follow the core
04:37.55sylvanaarhes doing the whisper thats suggested on the wiki no?
04:38.25ckknightpeople shouldn't do the whisper thing
04:38.27ckknightthat's bad practice
04:38.41sylvanaarthats what i think also
04:38.46ckknightI removed it from the wiki a while ago
04:39.01sylvanaaroh
04:39.18sylvanaari havent read that page in a while
04:39.31JJSheetsckknight bitched at me left and right when I did that when I first added sending pages to Omnibus... :)
04:40.16sylvanaarwhy do people do it again?
04:40.31XuerianBecause you can't send addon messages directly to people? >_>
04:41.30Daemonayou know whats the most fun? if you have a whisper addon like WIM ... you will never ever ask again a guildmate to whisper-sync his herb database for outlands again ;)
04:41.48sylvanaaryeah, i guess i like that you need a relationship to them via the addon channel
04:41.48JJSheetslol daemona
04:42.17FinMyAceAddon:OnInitialize() is called the first time the addon's enabled after loading the UI, and not again, and OnEnable() is every time the addon's enabled or disabled - is that right?
04:42.34vhaarrDaemona: WIM fucks up AceComm whisper data.
04:42.36sylvanaarsi si
04:42.57vhaarrFin: Yes, except OnEnable is not called when an addon is disabled.
04:43.12Finer, yeah
04:43.13JJSheetsfin just when enabled... OnDisable is called when it is disabled.
04:43.51sylvanaarwim intercepts the whispers before prat gets em too
04:43.53Finman I love scite's autocomplete stuff, I never used it before and it's great
04:44.05Fin(thanks vhaarr, JJSheets, and sylvanaar)
04:44.34MedlirMmm, SCiTe
04:44.39Daemonavhaarr i know, but i am addicted to the IM style of whispers, it makes it more intuitive for me
04:44.42Finit even completes user defined functions from the file you're editing, not just standard stuff, nift on a stick
04:45.03Arrowmasterit does? what version are you using?
04:45.06MedlirI use WIM but I don't sync data with other people, sot hat's fine.
04:45.21FinVersion 1.70-wbd-1
04:45.32Finbit out of date actually
04:45.33sylvanaarDaemona im trying to get one of those guys to support prat
04:45.42FinJun 26 2006 21:14:28
04:45.43vhaarrDaemona: I've reported it to the author, but he has not responded.
04:45.57Daemona;)
04:46.03MedlirI'm still using Scite 1.66
04:46.07Arrowmasterhmm im using almost the same and never noticed that feature
04:46.07Fininstaller downloaded from http://gisdeveloper.tripod.com/scite.html btw
04:46.13Daemonayeah i know i try to subdue you to do what i want;)
04:46.14Finyou have to edit the options
04:46.20Finit wasn't enabled before
04:46.41Finthere's loads of spiffy stuff in there
04:47.02Daemonano matter what, its 5:45am again *sigh*
04:47.13Daemonabye ;)
04:47.14Finone little thing I *love* is that when I search for strings now, the matches stay in the middle of the screen and the text moves around it
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04:47.44FinI hate having to find where the cursor is if it's a tiny string that's matched at the end of the line or something
04:47.51Finsimple pleasures
04:49.07vhaarrckknight: Would there be room for a AceOptions type that acts like type="text", validate=<table>, except it gave you checkboxes instead? I can see many uses for that.
04:49.40ckknightexcept that that means there are multiple on/off values, which the get would need to return
04:49.45ckknightwhich is complex
04:49.52vhaarrindeed
04:50.03binderhow can I remove the stupid world map icon from my mini-map without a seperate mod
04:50.19ckknightbinder: Cartographer
04:50.25Prophis anyone here using praid lately?? can't find an option to show mana low
04:50.27binderI dont' see the option
04:50.29vhaarrbinder: Hover it and do /print GetMouseFocus(), and hide it manually.
04:50.37ckknight<PROTECTED>
04:50.39Fin/script RemoveStupidWorldMapIcon()
04:50.57JJSheetsfin, I totally forgot to put the TinyPad import feature in the Omnibus menu, thanks for reminding me, and I'm going to be converting New Page and New Folio menu options to prompt for a name.
04:51.17JJSheetsI'll probably have it done in an hour or two.
04:51.19vhaarrJJSheets: don't do that
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04:51.37JJSheetsdo which?
04:51.41vhaarrI don't want to name my pages.
04:51.49FinJJSheets: awesome :) thanks!
04:51.49NimbleIs the wowace website being wierd for anyone else?
04:51.58Findo you like all your pages being named "Unnamed page" then?
04:52.00bindertaht /script isn't working
04:52.05vhaarrFin: yes
04:52.07Finwhy?
04:52.12FinI find it very confusing
04:52.25Finperhaps because of my lesser brain size
04:52.34vhaarrThen rename them after you've created them or whatever, don't force me to set name.
04:52.36JoshBorkesometimes i just want blank pages?
04:52.43JJSheetswhy the hell not vhaarr?  they'll be given the default Untitled in the edit box, so all you'll have to do is accept the Unnamed page...
04:52.45Finjust press return then when the window pops up
04:52.51vhaarrJJSheets: There's a good reason *none* of the major text editors force you to do it.
04:52.56vhaarrJJSheets: Chew on that for a second.
04:53.09vhaarr*none*
04:53.09Fin"major text editors"?
04:53.10JJSheetschewed, I spat it out.  Gimme the reason.
04:53.14vhaarrFine, *any* text editor, then.
04:53.23vhaarrJJSheets: Because it's annoying.
04:53.38JJSheetsbwahahahahahahahahahahahha
04:53.57Finwhat, you mean, there's a good reason they don't prompt for a page name when they create a new one as part of a folio while you're editing Lua inside world of warcraft?
04:54.00NimbleI'm trying to figure out what a mod called kkbk does, my friend told me I should check it out.  Wowace website isn't working for me so does anyone here know what it is?
04:54.08sylvanaarthey either autoname or delete the current one with a prompt
04:54.18sylvanaarkkbk is a buff assignment mod
04:54.39NimbleWhy isn't it on the /files page
04:54.41vhaarrJJSheets: Fine, do as you please, I'll simply not update Omnibus, then, if I see that commit. It's your addon anyway.
04:54.48Finawww
04:55.07JJSheetsokay, vhaarr I'll compromise... it'll be a per account setting, defaulting to your way, but allowing us normal people to do it our way too.
04:55.13sylvanaarwhy do think it should be on files?
04:55.18bindermouse focus was 0C712F08, what's the syntax for hiding that?
04:55.22vhaarrJJSheets: Sounds like bloat to me.
04:55.24NimbleI don't know where else to get it
04:55.33JJSheetslol
04:55.56sylvanaarcursegaming.com
04:56.06JJSheetsif I inject that bit of bloat in it, will you not update anymore?  :p
04:56.10NimbleOh he told me to get it from Ace.  T_T sorry
04:56.12sylvanaarwith the hyphen
04:56.35vhaarrJJSheets: If you continue down that path, be sure I'll fork some day and strip out all the crap from your addon.
04:56.42JJSheetsroflmao
04:56.44sylvanaarJJSheets ^^
04:57.09Finit's a slippery slope!
04:57.18sylvanaaryou see how he is lol
04:57.36Nimbleheh last version 2006/10/31 I assume it doesn't work with BC anymore?
04:57.44ckknightbinder: I already told you
04:58.08Finand you know the next step: selling your body for drugs
04:58.32JoshBorkevhaarr: weren't you the one that said he'd rewrite my mod into ace for me?
04:58.37FinI've seen it happen so many times... a budding addon author wants to keep his users happy, adds a feature - but just doesn't think of what he's really doing to himself
04:58.55vhaarrJoshBorke: yeah, but then 2.0 came and secure frames scared the shit out of me
04:58.56Finso sad
04:59.07JoshBorkethey scare the shit out of me too!
04:59.10vhaarr:D
04:59.30binderyou said cartographer :P
04:59.35JJSheetsvhaarr, fork away buddy, fork away.  Call it... Paranoid Schizo Notepad of Doom.
05:00.03Bejitt-omg more obscure, and yet witty, ace mod names
05:00.08JJSheetslol
05:00.16vhaarrJJSheets: Dammit man, you don't get it, it's a *useless* setting and a *useless* feature. Just make it easier to edit the page title after creation and everyone is happy.
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05:00.34Meluhi all
05:00.47Finhola
05:00.55NimbleWhat are JJSheets and vhaarr arguing about?  Out of curiosity
05:01.01JJSheetsvhaarr, I'll see if I can't do that... btw have you downloaded the most recent Omnibus?
05:01.05JoshBorkemake the page title an editable textbox that saves upon page change
05:01.13Finit's not an argument! vhaarr is merely advising JJSheets
05:01.15vhaarrJJSheets: no
05:01.22JJSheetsDo so... you'll cry.
05:01.25JJSheetsbwahahahahaha
05:01.35JJSheetsI predict vhaarr is going to fork my code.
05:01.47NimbleAs opposed to it being the first line, that's how it is now right?
05:01.52JJSheetsHe's gonna fork it slow.
05:01.57JJSheetsHe's gonna fork it long.
05:02.04JJSheetsHe's gonna fork it hard.
05:02.23Finstop it... naughty
05:02.24sylvanaarthere is no fork
05:02.25JJSheetslol
05:02.30Ra1d3nis fork like a new word for fuck?
05:02.35Ra1d3n:F
05:02.37Ra1d3n:D
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05:02.42JJSheetsno it's just close enough.
05:02.46Meluit allways been
05:03.02Ra1d3ngonna go to bed ^^ gn8
05:03.07Melunight
05:03.22JJSheetsI'll be unbelievably amazed if vhaarr doesn't fork the hell out of Omnibus then prat all over it.
05:04.02Meluwitch add does vhaarr ?
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05:05.17sylvanaaryou know i typed up this long forum post on the wow addon forum based on "green eggs and ham" and the fucking forum timed out and lost my text
05:05.25JJSheetshaha
05:05.31Meluhrhr
05:05.40Finaw, shit
05:05.50JJSheetswhat fin?
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05:06.00Finsee, that's Why Opera Is Better Than Your Browser
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05:06.03sylvanaari do not want them in my game i cannot use them what a shame... etc
05:06.14NimbleIF anyone cares http://files.wowace.com/kkbk/ exists yet kkbk is not listed at http://files.wowace.com
05:06.14JJSheetslol sylvanaar
05:06.30JJSheetswhat the bloody hell is this kkbk?
05:06.33FinI was saying aw, shit at sylvanaar losing his forum post
05:06.34sylvanaarprolly hasnt been updated for 2.0
05:06.42JJSheetsah gotcha, fin.
05:07.06JJSheetsvhaarr, have you decided to fork Omnibus yet?  You are in all seriousness welcome to do so.
05:07.32Nimblesylvanaar: I just got it and it's working with bc just fine on my comp.  Anyways I don't really care just thought I would let you guys know.
05:07.33MeluNimble, what is kkbk ?
05:07.34ArrowmasterNimble: i dont think non 2.0 addons are listed on files.wowace.com
05:07.51sylvanaarwhat is the toc version
05:07.57Fin(just to clarify: Opera doesn't lose the contents of textareas when changing pages and also makes you live longer, true fact)
05:08.29sylvanaari think the blizzard forums are to blame, ie generally doesnt either
05:08.48Nimble## Interface: 20000
05:08.52Nimblethat what your looking for?
05:08.57Melufin: sure, and vista have a fine speach module
05:08.59sylvanaaryeah
05:09.06JJSheetsmelu hahahah
05:09.37NimbleMelu: It's some sort of buff mod.  I don't know exactly a friend told me to try it out.
05:09.58FinMelu: scientifically proven!
05:10.01MeluNimble, ok
05:10.38CIA-1803funkydude * r28684 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: InstanceMaps: fix Zul'Aman script
05:10.38NimbleI don't like opera
05:11.01Finwell Opera doesn't like you either
05:11.03Finso there
05:11.20sylvanaarNimble i dont know why its not in the file list, i thought you only needed 20000 in the toc
05:11.21NimbleThat's ok I'm pretty happy with my browswer.  For the most part.
05:11.28Finfair enough
05:11.36NimbleIt does freeze sometimes though...
05:11.52Fintry a nice wooly hat
05:11.55Fin+l
05:11.57Nimblehaha
05:12.03Fina tish boom :P
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05:13.44ZandersHi.
05:13.54Finbonjour
05:14.38Meluhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc
05:14.49Melusalutations
05:17.21Meluhum
05:18.02Melui m using W2k on my main computer and XP on my lap top
05:18.27NimbleRabitchatzilla sucks
05:18.34Meluand WAU acting strange
05:20.01Meluon my main, i dont have categories, like packages, installed !installed
05:21.12JJSheetsadios ya'll I gots food to eat.
05:24.15Finis the EditBox accessible while it's not currently visible, from a function that doesn't hook anything that passes it as an argument?
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05:25.48Melubrb
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05:26.36CIA-1803sylvanaar * r28685 10!!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries/ (7 files in 3 dirs): !!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries: Lets you have WAU in no external mode without unpacking standalonelibs. Should work in theory. If not, see the name =)
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05:27.14Diabolic-Destinyhello
05:27.19Diabolic-Destinyanyone online?
05:29.01Finnope
05:29.28Diabolic-Destinycan you plz help me with a little thing
05:29.31Diabolic-Destinyif you hvae winxp sp2
05:29.35*** join/#wowace Melu (n=Melu@hau59-1-82-226-108-78.fbx.proxad.net)
05:29.36Diabolic-Destinycan you just send me a system file?
05:29.42Diabolic-Destinymy optical drive isnt working
05:29.50sylvanaarbuy a new one
05:29.59Diabolic-Destinyits not broken my computer wont detect it..
05:30.25Diabolic-Destinyplease i just need one file
05:30.35Diabolic-Destinyadcjavas.inc usually found in C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles\i386\
05:30.47Diabolic-Destinymy MDAC installation is corrupt
05:31.40FinSki bi di bi di do bap do. Do bam do - it's the Prat Man
05:32.13FinBada bwi ba ba bada bo. Baba ba da bo, bwi ba ba ba do - it's the Prat man
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05:34.27NimbleRabitOH MY GOSH, WoW UI Updater is a godsend
05:35.06binder~?
05:36.05NimbleRabitLet's you update all your addons from all the major websites, not just WoWace lke wowaceupdater
05:36.23Funkeh`all my addons are on wowace already basically
05:37.11NimbleRabitI have quite a few that there are no good replacements for
05:37.16NimbleRabitso I love this thing
05:37.17Finwow, I just searched for a WoW UI function and the only result on Google was to an old unzipped addon - on my own site
05:37.17vithoswhose agUF layout is AlcUI?
05:37.26Finthat's a bit weird
05:37.55Funkeh`wtf is alcui
05:38.14ZandersA style for agUF...
05:38.17Fins'what happens to an addon author after they start the Bloat
05:38.20Finoh
05:38.32vithosit's in aUF_Layouts
05:38.42vithosi like it, but the health text gets truncated
05:38.52Funkeh`fix it then
05:39.53NimbleRabitIm curious, is there some website where I can read about why some people love Ace and some people refuse to use it?
05:40.34FinI don't know many people who refuse to use it
05:40.38Melusome pple refuse to use ace ?
05:40.49FinI'd quite like to read about why they refuse though, probably political
05:40.51Funkeh`thats a shock?
05:40.53Finor they write their own mods
05:40.55Melucosmos lovers ?
05:41.01Funkeh`some people don't like using embeds, libraries etc, who cares
05:41.05Funkeh`use waht you want to use
05:41.24Finsure, but it's always interesting to hear why people have decided *against* something
05:41.47NimbleRabitYeah
05:42.08NimbleRabitAnd I was speaking more specifically about mod writer's, some of them seem to be very against ace.
05:42.15NimbleRabitJust curious why
05:42.46Melusome coders are against oo, sql etc
05:42.49Funkeh`because noobs keep nagging at them to ace their addons
05:42.56Funkeh`when infact it would probably be of no benefit
05:42.58vhaarrPolitical differences and architectural disputes, just like any other coding library/language/project.
05:43.26Funkeh`and that
05:43.27Funkeh`:p
05:43.48Meluask them why, the will show you how they didnt test what they talking about
05:44.47Melu(like me, i cant speak english as you can see)
05:44.54Finnot sure #wowace is the best place to get a *totally* objective opinion
05:45.05Xuerian<Opera voice> Draaaaaaa--maaaaAAAAAAAAA!
05:45.16Finooh! Opera!
05:45.33FinI guess it's over then?
05:45.41vhaarrFin: I think my response was pretty objective.
05:45.48Meluopera sux, why ? dont know, i have an opinion, that's all :)
05:45.50Finvhaarr: it was, yep
05:45.57NimbleRabitFin: Yeah I figured as much and just started googling it =/
05:47.18Finold IRC logs for wow related channels on this server are quite interesting
05:47.26Kaelten-LaptopI personally think small dogs that bite are the root of all evil and should be mass exterminated.
05:47.27NimbleRabitI just use whatever addon suits my purpose better.  They all seem to work fine ace or not, only difference i have notice is that ace addons seem to take longer to load.
05:47.27Funkeh`ehh
05:47.30Kaelten-Laptopoh wait, that was just a dream
05:47.31Funkeh`X* :p
05:47.52ZandersHow customizable are eepanels?
05:48.00Finsmall dogs that bark should be included in the extermination effort
05:48.07MeluNimbleRabit: longer ??
05:48.16NimbleRabitMeh just an observation
05:48.27NimbleRabitSince I switched a bunch of addons to ace alternatives that seemed better
05:48.33NimbleRabitmy load time has went up to something like 5 minutes
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05:48.46Finsee, all that would be solved by ultramegaubermetaddon
05:48.52Melutrolling detected
05:48.56Kaelten-LaptopNimbleRabit: use WAU to update without externals
05:49.14Funkeh`indeed
05:49.19Funkeh`download standalone libraries
05:49.30MeluNimbleRabit: have you install ALL ace addons ?
05:49.39NimbleRabitno
05:49.42Kaelten-Laptopit'll decrease your load times if you use multiple ace addons
05:49.47NimbleRabitI'll see if I can figure out how to do that kaelten
05:50.19Funkeh`www.wowace.con/wiki/WowAceUpdater
05:50.22Funkeh`that should help you
05:50.39NimbleRabit.com*
05:50.41NimbleRabit=P
05:50.41Finsomeone should write a preparser for addons that combines them all into one big .lua and one big .toc, you could run it after every update -- it could even be part of the autoupdaters -- and start a new trend in monolithic modding
05:50.51Melui have a very slow computer (i m from a poor country) and i havent any problems with ace, unlike cosmos
05:50.54Finpreparser is probably the wrong word actually
05:51.04Finword is probably the wrong word, I should've used "term", yup
05:51.10NimbleRabitI don't have problems with it once I'm in game, just during load.
05:51.44Kaelten-Laptopya using StandAloneLibraries and updateing without externals will fix that
05:51.47Finso... -preparser+combinationer
05:52.09Kaelten-LaptopFin: thats bound to break something :P
05:52.36FinKaelten-Laptop: yeah, that's what I thought at first but I couldn't think of a reason why it shouldn't be possible really...
05:52.49Finobviously I am far less well informed than most
05:52.58Finso it's probably still will break something
05:53.15FinMegultraddon The Mighty, it shall be named
05:54.10Finan addon to consume all addons! the mod that strides mighty, unleashing its terrible wrath on all that behold it!
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05:55.12Finmight hit some sort of limit on the size of savedvariables files, if there is one
05:56.25FinI have 5539 files in my AddOns folder, jesus christ I didn't realise it was that much
05:56.37JJSheetslol fin
05:57.43Finah, but only 2136 .lua, .toc, and .xml files
05:57.58Xuerian...
05:58.00Finthat's... still horrendous
05:58.05NimbleRabitHow did you check that?
05:58.10XuerianIs your addon folder like your secret porn folder or something?
05:58.17JJSheetsXuerian, rofl
05:58.24Finjust search for *.lua,*.toc,*.xml with windows find files thingy
05:58.46Finer, first setting the current directory to that of your addons folder
05:59.03Fin2136 files -> 3 files
05:59.07Finthat'd definitely speed up loading
05:59.55krkamorning
05:59.58FinI mean that's sort of what WoW does anyway, right? just load the files in sequential order as listed by the .toc files it finds?
05:59.59Melu?
06:00.09Finkrka! greetings
06:00.12NimbleRabit3000 here fin
06:00.22NimbleRabitfrom that search
06:00.35Finthe Might of Megultraddon would crush them all!
06:00.45JJSheetsunless the three files contain all the junk in the original 2136... not to mention updating addons would be so unbelievably painful as to be maddening.
06:01.00Finwell, see, that's what I was thinking
06:01.17JJSheetsheya krka
06:01.21Finthat's what the combinationer thing is that I mentioned earlier
06:01.31Finit would combinate all the addons just after you update them
06:01.43JJSheetswell, have fun making that work perfectly Fin.  :p
06:01.44pastamancernah, you'd have problems with embedded libs because they use return to prevent the remainder of the file from being executed
06:02.22Finstick it inside some big function then
06:02.29Finthey can return from that
06:02.41Meluoutch
06:02.45Finfunction Addons() ... end
06:03.12JJSheetsFin = Masochist.
06:03.18Meluand how do you deal with load on demand addons ?
06:03.27Finjust load them
06:03.29Finsod it
06:03.35JJSheetslol
06:03.39MeluoO
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06:04.08krkaJJSheets: i made a small update for only doing the recoloring on OnUpdate instead
06:04.14krkanot sure how well it would work though
06:04.25JJSheetssend it, I'll test.  :)
06:04.37Meluanyway, i have a question
06:04.49FinI don't think LoD addons are very useful personally anyway, if you can't *unload* it later on it's just giving a false sense of security and a temporary break from the memory this addon's going to use anyway
06:04.50Melui tested Arkinventory
06:05.22Finmaybe that's just a demonstration of my teeny tiny brain, please educate me someone so I can be right
06:06.01krkanew version at http://kristofer.no-ip.info/~krka/tmp/indent.lua
06:06.07XuerianFin, LoD isn't a all-comprehensive solution, but it *does* mean you can just /reload and get back to the state of clean, only-what-you-need-loaded
06:06.12Meluand i have an issue
06:06.14krkaas usual, it will probably be broken so you'll have to repair it yourself :)
06:06.20FinXuerian: "just /reload"
06:06.32Xuerianfin: like, after a raid
06:06.45FinI dunno
06:06.46Xuerianfin: Or after loading the mammoth of auctioneer and playing the AH
06:07.08MeluAuctioneer is a good exemple
06:07.25Meluso, my problem is :)
06:07.27FinXuerian: I get the concept, and I've tried it honestly, it's just, it's so rarely actually useful
06:07.37FinAuctioneer is one of the *only* good examples
06:07.45Xuerianfin: I won't argue that it's rarely useful to you, but they're extremely useful to me.
06:07.54Finfair enough then
06:08.00JJSheetskrka, it's a delayed reaction, and it's actually kindof nifty...
06:08.11XuerianYMMV applies. Melu, just ask your damn question already
06:08.16Xuerianif you don't ask it won't get answered
06:08.40Finfor me personally, I always used to do something like, visit the auction house just before a raid because I had to pick up some fire protection potions or something, and then realise halfway through the raid that auctioneer's been resident the whole time
06:08.54JJSheetskrka, it's awesome keep it as is.
06:08.55Finor, realise before the raid, and make everyone wait while I reloaded again
06:09.03MeluXuerian : i dont speak english, so i need time to ask something :)
06:09.10krkaalready tested it? cool
06:09.12FinXuerian: yup yup :)
06:09.17Finanyway
06:09.24JJSheetswhat's the delay time, 1 sec?
06:09.28Xuerianmelu: Sorry about that. At any rate, we're not all going to stop talking for you to ask your question, so keep on typing (don't reply to this!) and get it out there ;0
06:09.28krkashuold be about 0.2 seconds
06:09.40ZandersCan anyone suggest a casting bar mod?
06:09.43krka0.2 seconds of not entering text, that is
06:09.51JJSheetssounds about right actually.  and it's not obtrusive or overly strange.
06:10.00XuerianZanders: oCB on Haste's site, or CBRipoff on the SVN/files
06:10.03JJSheetslet me test pasting lots of text now...
06:10.04FinMegultraddon is more of a, er, concept addon than anything, I'd still love to see it in action and I am currently believing it's feasible
06:10.08Kaelten-Laptopthere is an undead rouge named gangkenstein
06:10.17Meluso, when i use Arkinv to look at an alt's bank, it show my main's bank instead of
06:10.32krkaJJSheets: cool!
06:10.42ZandersDoes oCB still have the chat text output (say every time you successfully cast something?)?
06:10.54Xuerianmelu: Well, I don't have any experience there, so I can only goad other people to answer you :)
06:10.59XuerianZanders: wtf?
06:11.04XuerianZanders: When did oCB have that?
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06:11.21JJSheetskrka, awesome.  I honestly think you can say that FAIAP is 100% complete.  It worked perfectly.
06:11.22MeluXuerian thx :)
06:11.29ZandersHaha.  Last time I used oCB, every time I cast a spell, it would say so in my chat log, driving my crazy.
06:11.38Finhey krka, maybe you would know actually (and answer me :) - is there a way that you know of to access the EditBox from a function that doesn't have EditBox passed as an argument, while the EditBox isn't currently visible?
06:11.43ZandersI take from  your responses that it no longer does that.  ;)
06:11.51XuerianJJSheets: Why is it that every time you say "FAIAP" I think "FAPFAP"? >_>
06:12.05XuerianZanders: I can't say that it does, but when I was using it (Up to today) it never did, and cbripoff doesn't
06:12.05Melui use the latest version of Arkinv on a french client, latest patch
06:12.06JJSheetsXuerian, cause you're a pervect sick sick little puppy.
06:12.15XuerianJJSheets: Woof.
06:12.15JJSheetss/pervect/perverted/
06:12.18ZandersCool, thanks.
06:12.37Finand you know what puppies like, don't you - a nice bone to chew on
06:12.39krkaJJSheets: nah, i think the onupdate-patch still needs some tweaking
06:12.51Xuerianfin: yeah, I'd probably lick myself if I could, too
06:12.55XuerianBut moving on
06:13.08XuerianAnyone good with ArkInventory have a answer for Melu? <.<
06:13.09bindervendetta needs to release a mod for my warlock and druid encounters in BC
06:13.16XuerianOr should he/she just go post on the forums :)
06:13.23JJSheetskrka, if you say so... but it works.  No issues.  no weird newlines... no duplications... no loss of data... it's the shiznit... :)
06:13.30Xuerianfin: Just the feral side of my druid nature showing through ;)
06:13.33krkagood stuff then :)
06:13.39JJSheetsyea verily.
06:13.50CIA-1803funkydude * r28686 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 5 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Loot/Item update
06:13.56krkaFin: yeah. that should be possible
06:14.12krkaas long as you know the name of the editbox (or have a reference to it)
06:14.13Finthanks krka
06:14.24FinI thought there was only one EditBox?
06:14.37krkaO_O
06:14.39krkaonly one?
06:14.55XuerianThe One Editbox.
06:15.00Finthe one the chat frame uses... I tried switching chat frames and it had the same history; it made me think perhaps there was just one global EditBox
06:15.03Finyes
06:15.17XuerianOne editbox to contain them all... And in the darkness merge * them.
06:15.36Meluhrhr
06:16.01JJSheetsby the way, Fin, I've programmed the New Page menu item so you can click on it to create a new page titled "Untitled", or you can type in the little editbox that shows up to name the new one immediately.
06:16.38FinJJSheets: brilliant!
06:16.54JJSheetsIt ended up being the easiest solution.
06:17.12JJSheetsand the code to do it was already in place except for the menu item.
06:17.27Findo the editboxes share attributes in some way?
06:17.48JJSheetsno, each editbox is its own entity for its own purpose.
06:18.01Finis there just one editbox for every chat frame, then?
06:18.09OverloadUTQuick someone tell me an awesome mod to get that I don't have.
06:18.30JJSheetsah, the chat frame stuff uses one editbox I believe... but that doesn't limit any other editboxes.
06:18.40FinOverloadUT: PingDir
06:18.51JJSheetsnot 100% sure on one editbox for all chat frames tho...
06:18.51krkaJJSheets: the big paste into the editbox worked?
06:18.58JJSheetskrka, perfectly.
06:19.04Finahh, OK, so I was sort of right, but wrong
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06:19.13JJSheetsfin yes.
06:19.36trhuhm.. how can i set svn:eol-style on a non-imported addon?
06:19.37Finso, it's probably got a specific name, in which case it should be accessible and hooray I can do what I wanted to do
06:19.53vhaarrtrh: Read the error message the commit gives you.
06:20.05ZandersWhat was the name of the other casting bar besides oCB?
06:20.14XuerianCBRipoff.
06:20.16ZandersThanks.  :)
06:20.16JJSheetswhat was it you were wanting to do fin?
06:20.57krkatime to run to work!
06:21.24FinJJSheets: I want to add something (which I think should be quite simple if I figure out how to do it properly), that adds the last chat line as a variable in a Prat module, which then gets added to the (chatframes') editbox after reloading
06:21.41Finalso
06:21.52FinI want to understand how it works and what's going on
06:22.09JJSheetsfin... have fun... I'm afraid I won't be any help at all... I don't mess with chat stuff.  :)
06:22.45FinJJSheets: thanks! I will :)
06:23.00Fin(have fun)
06:23.09XuerianJJSheets: You're working on Omnibus, right?
06:23.17JJSheetsXuerian, yes
06:23.43XuerianJJSheets: Is there a function I can call to insert the given text into the given page (which will be created if it doesn't exist)?
06:24.16CIA-1803trh * r28687 10MonkeyPirate/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
06:24.16CIA-18MonkeyPirate:
06:24.16CIA-18- initial commit
06:24.17CIA-18- a very simple game based on the pirate fights in monkey island
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06:24.34JJSheetsI don't think so... but it shouldn't be too difficult to add.
06:24.54XuerianJJSheets: That + the new aceconsole addition would be definite bliss.
06:25.06OverloadUTtrh: I didn't think you were actually making it!
06:25.18JJSheetsnew aceconsole addition?  have I missed a new forum post?
06:25.31trhOverloadUT: it's very simple )
06:25.33trh:)
06:25.40XuerianJJSheets: Very small one I suggested, :Print* returns whatever it prints, fully formatted
06:25.46Meluwhat what ???
06:25.53Melumonkey island ?
06:26.20OverloadUThow do you get the length of a string? string:len()? string:length()?
06:26.22Xuerianmelu: A old adventure game.
06:26.41FinOverloadUT: duh! it's two times the length from the middle to the end!
06:26.43vhaarrtrh: rofl, maybe we should add a Games category to X-Category, then :P
06:26.44Fineveryone knows that
06:26.49MeluXuerian : i know :) one of the best
06:26.51trhvhaarr: ya. would be nice :)
06:26.55Xuerian:p
06:27.10OverloadUT:P
06:27.30JJSheetsXuerian, I'm confused is the aceconsole thing related in any way to Omnibus?
06:27.36Finactually it's string.len
06:27.44Finor string:len()
06:27.51JJSheetsor strlen()
06:28.02XuerianJJSheets: Ever tried reading the output of thirty successive YourAddon:PrintLiteral(YourFrame)'s in teh chatframe?
06:28.08XuerianJJSheets: You might get the last.... two
06:28.10Funkeh`nn
06:28.17OverloadUTOr can you do #string?
06:28.29Xuerian#string returns byte length of string iirc
06:28.30lhunathum - what exactly is the leavemealonelibraries thing?
06:29.11XuerianHow 'byte length' works, don't ask me. I just make up words. It's up to you to figure them out.
06:29.12Xuerian:p
06:29.16JJSheetsWhere is this aceconsole suggestion on the forums?
06:29.34XuerianJJSheets: It never went on the forums, I just asked ck and gave it to vharr who committed it
06:29.39XuerianIt was like a four line change :p
06:30.17JJSheetsah... so this is not related to Omnibus? (since omnibus itself does not print anything to chatframes unless I'm debugging...)
06:30.55XuerianJJSheets: Really, it's not. It doesn't mess with anything in current addons. I just mentioned it because I want to redirect output from it when I'm using it, into a separate window (omnibus in this case, I used tinypad before)
06:31.28CIA-1803trh * r28688 10MonkeyPirate/: MonkeyPirate: externals added
06:31.29JJSheetsah.  okay... now I understand...
06:31.36XuerianJJSheets: Sorry for the confusion
06:31.59JJSheetsyou should be.  you delayed the creation of that other suggestion up there by five minutes.  hahah
06:32.12XuerianNyarharhar.
06:32.16JJSheetslol
06:34.40OverloadUTWhat does tonumber("blue") return?
06:34.44OverloadUTnil?
06:34.49JJSheetsmaybe 0
06:35.01JJSheetsnot sure
06:35.07Xuerian0000ff?
06:35.15JJSheetsnot bloody likely
06:35.20XuerianXD
06:35.27trhTries to convert its argument to a number. If the argument is already a number or a string convertible to a number, then tonumber returns that number; otherwise, it returns nil.
06:35.31FinOverloadUT: /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tonumber('blue'))
06:35.39Finit returns 'nil' from the command line
06:35.42Xueriantrh: Hush, that takes all the fun out of it
06:35.47OverloadUTFin: Yeah yeah, I just got home and haven't launched WoW yet ;)
06:35.53Finfair enough
06:36.03trhXuerian: ya.. but you can play pirate to get some fun ;)
06:36.47Xueriantrh: This is true. *Gets said addon*
06:37.09trhXuerian: unfortunaetly you have to find a other player that has it installed too :)
06:37.19JJSheetshahahaha
06:37.27JJSheetsthat's just EVIL
06:37.29Xueriantrh:
06:37.30trhi guess it isn't that much spread yet ;)
06:37.34Xueriantrh: bastard.
06:37.45XuerianTeasing me with glory and booty
06:37.51trhXuerian: you can play with yourself... /mp <yourcharname> ;)
06:37.53Xuerianonly to leave me beached!
06:37.58XuerianI do that too much >.>;
06:38.06JJSheetsTMI
06:38.09trhew... didn't wanna hear that :P
06:38.29JJSheetsactually... WTFMDIYPS
06:38.41Xuerianyps?
06:38.47Xuerianyou perverted...
06:38.49Xuerianwhat? o.0
06:38.57Xueriansicko.
06:38.59XuerianRight. :D
06:39.14JJSheetsWTFMDIYPS = Way too forking much damned information you perverted sicko.
06:39.42JJSheetslol
06:40.04JJSheetsrofl
06:40.11Finjesus! I hope angst is OK!
06:41.17FinYou gain 100 XP.
06:41.47XuerianThat threat just doesn't work like it used to T.T
06:41.50trhand -200 Honor Points due to Dishonorable Kill ;)
06:41.55XuerianXD
06:42.12JJSheetsHey I use XLoot... I think... yeah... yeah I do...
06:42.16FinYour reputation with the Xeurian Clan has decreased by 200.
06:42.38Fins/eu/ue/
06:42.39trhhey, you even got those typos blizzard does :)
06:42.49JJSheetshow authentic.
06:43.21Finalso whoever writes Megultraddon should write an infobot mod
06:43.29Finor fix the old one
06:43.38JJSheetsdefine infobot.
06:43.39FinPanda or Parrot or something, I think it was
06:43.43Finpurl, infobot?
06:43.54purlfin, i love abuse, feed me!
06:43.54Fin~infobot
06:43.56purlfin, i love abuse, feed me!
06:44.02JJSheetslol
06:44.03Xueriano_0
06:44.05Wobin~botsnack
06:44.05purlWobin: thanks
06:44.13Wobininteresting
06:44.22Wobinpurl goes off the main username?
06:44.25JJSheetsso... purl is an infobot?  :)
06:44.26trh~botsnack red herring
06:44.27purlaw, gee, trh
06:44.35Finno
06:44.41Finpurl's a, uh, bloopbot I think?
06:44.42JJSheetsyou bastards... :p
06:44.49Wobin~purl
06:44.50purlfrom memory, purl is an evil bot. rather slow at responding
06:44.52Wobin~blootbot
06:44.55purlblootbot is, like, an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot
06:44.59CIA-1803rabbit * r28689 10Violation/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Violation: Modularization, initial commit. Finish your coffee now.
06:44.59Finblootbot, thassit
06:45.10FinWobin: do you take feature requests for HeyFu via IRC? :)
06:45.17trhThe slowest and most bloated bot in the world <- lol
06:45.20Fin~stats
06:45.21purlSince Sat Feb 17 21:34:11 2007, there have been 53 modifications, 588 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 551 commands.  I have been awake for 4d 9h 11m 9s this session, and currently reference 112559 factoids.  I'm using about 19028 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 16688.53/1009.89 child 0.04/0.01
06:45.24JJSheetsyou IRC geeks and your bots. p'shaw...
06:46.11trhwell.. in some way they are better than a gf... they only talk when you've spoken first, and they usually give short and helpful answers
06:46.28Fingeek insults would be a lot more convincing coming from someone other than a WoW addon author, but I applaud the awfulness of your attempt
06:46.36JJSheetslol
06:47.23Fin+to work, via the shower
06:49.23CIA-1803rabbit * r28690 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Forgot 2 strings for localizations.
06:50.02OverloadUTWhat's the easiest way to convert a player name in to a unitid (partyX) - iterate or is there an acelib?
06:50.13JJSheetsRosterlib I think...
06:50.15vhaarrOverloadUT: RosterLib.
06:50.19JJSheetsWoohoo!
06:50.46OverloadUTvhaarr: Thanks
06:50.49vhaarrOverloadUT: AceLibrary("Roster-2.1"):GetUnitObjectFromName(name).unitid will give you the unit ID for the given name.
06:51.56XuerianBack in our day, we iterated through every unit in the group, and we *liked* it!
06:52.13JJSheetsUphill, BOTH WAYS!  In SNOW and Blazing Heat!
06:52.19XuerianAMEN
06:52.20vhaarrI've modularized Violation, so someone implement PlayerEfficientHealing, PlayerOverhealing, PlayerDamageTaken, PlayerDPS and PlayerHPS, please.
06:52.31trhuhm.. is there a setting in tortoisesvn to disable that annoying commit failed sound?
06:52.38OverloadUTTell me about it. I came back for TBC after almost a year after quitting. The UI scene is so different now
06:52.42trhi searched and searched but couldn't find it
06:52.43vhaarrPlayerTotalDamage/Healing are implemented already, so there are examples.
06:52.45NimbleRabitWhat's violation?
06:52.55XuerianNimbleRabit: It's what you feel after....
06:52.58Nargiddleytrh, sounds in control panel
06:53.02vhaarrtrh: yes, there is.
06:53.04Xuerian... yeah I just don't have the energy for another your mother joke.
06:53.13trhomg control panel.. bastard program :P
06:53.36XuerianNimbleRabit: It's a simple damage counter/meter
06:53.49NimbleRabitlol
06:54.01JJSheetsvhaarr, mind if I do PlayerDPS and HPS?
06:55.05vhaarrJJSheets: Not at all, but I won't let you commit until I've OK'ed the code.
06:55.19JJSheetsof course.
06:58.03trhOverloadUT: btw: about the ui-scene, in my opinion there hasn't been so much changes.. only lots of changed to ace mods because of ace2
06:58.35OverloadUTWell there's the huge "secure frames" thing and the fact that macros can actually do a good amount of stuff now
06:58.49OverloadUTBut yeah I suppose you're right
06:59.15OverloadUTAce2 make a huge difference though. It's so nice having consistency between so many of my addons
06:59.31trhwell.. i meant addon-wise, not api-wise :)
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07:01.21JJSheetsvhaarr any preferences for track time?  I'm thinking beginning of combat and end of combat.
07:01.37JJSheetsfor DPS at least...
07:01.37vhaarrJJSheets: Yes, that sounds perfect.
07:02.08JJSheetsHPS will require different stuff to register out of combat heals, but I'm not working on that yet... :)
07:02.58Meluso, 8 am, it's to sleep :)
07:03.07trhOverloadUT: yeah. ace2 is really great.. but i do miss a website which lists all the libraries and gives a little text about each of them..
07:03.25vhaarrtrh: The wiki?
07:03.59trhvhaarr: ya.. but the wiki only list the names... didn't found page which lists them all with description
07:04.16trh(except for wowace.com/files, but its too less description there)
07:04.20vhaarrtrh: Click them?
07:04.28OverloadUTYeah http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:API_Documentation <-- that page is decent but you have to click each one to see what they do.
07:04.38OverloadUTIt would be nice to have a list of all libs and what they do all on one page.
07:04.42trhvhaarr: if i just want to have a overview thats overkill
07:04.42vhaarrI don't see the problem.
07:04.49vhaarrYou do that once, and then you know.
07:05.04OverloadUTIf you're looking for a particular funcionality, you need to click up to 105 times to read what they all do
07:05.11OverloadUTAnd not all of us have perfect memories ;)
07:05.18vhaarrAsk here, then.
07:05.25OverloadUTBut I find that asking here and getting a lightning quick answer is a good substitute ;)
07:05.28OverloadUTHaha exactly
07:05.36vhaarror write the page yourself, it's not that hard to write a wiki page.
07:05.40Azurewrathmhm.. what was the "no gfx lag" setting called again? gxlag? nogxlag?
07:05.41trhhehe.. ya.. asking here works good :)
07:05.51OverloadUTThis IRC channel is like a slow but very accurate search engine :P
07:05.55Fintrh: http://fin.instinct.org/acefiles/list/
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07:06.04Fintrh: http://fin.instinct.org/acefiles/list/help:usage
07:06.15Finit's useless and will probably break soon
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07:06.53sedatedChipmunkdude, I spent my first like 3 months in here just lurking and logging, 24 hours a day
07:07.03krkaok... time to release a new FAIAP then i guess, untested as it may be
07:07.26sedatedChipmunkyou can pick up a lot just by listening to people figure out thir problems
07:07.58trhsedatedChipmunk: but with actually trying you learn alot faster and more
07:08.01Fintrh: http://fin.instinct.org/acefiles/list/show:name,description;sep:tab;find:lib might be sort of what you want
07:08.12trhFin: looks good
07:08.21sedatedChipmunknobody says you can't do both
07:08.33Arrowmasterweee! flying to shadowmoon to pick out an epic mount!
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07:09.06trhArrowmaster: grats
07:09.10sedatedChipmunkand if you're really sharp, you can insult Wobin to keep yourself entertained, too
07:09.11trhArrowmaster: take the purple one!
07:09.36Arrowmasterstill not sure which to get, was thinking yellow though
07:10.26CIA-1803trh * r28691 10VanasKoS/ (14 files in 3 dirs): VanasKoS: more code cleanup
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07:14.58Solehihi
07:15.10sedatedChipmunkyou smell and nobody likes you
07:15.32Icerothgood morning to you too :p
07:18.03JJSheetskrka, whatcha mean untested FAIAP?
07:18.26krkayou've only tested it for like an hour? :)
07:18.33JJSheetshah.
07:18.49ZandersDoes anyone know if there is a way to get a vertical casting bar?  >.<
07:18.53sedatedChipmunkshup it
07:19.00sedatedChipmunks/shup/ship/
07:19.11ZealotOnAStickGet one of those LCD monitor you can rotate.
07:19.16JJSheetskrka you are a pessimist... but I agree shup.... er .... ship it.
07:19.17trhZanders: i'd suggest turning your monitor 90 degree, but i guess you didn't want that solution
07:19.33ZandersHmmm...
07:19.53ZandersTempting idea.
07:21.21NargiddleyZanders, icehud has a castbar which is basicly vertical
07:23.49lhunathjust like archud
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07:24.29sedatedChipmunkactually, i believe archud is truly radial
07:24.59sedatedChipmunkbut I know dhud was vertical
07:25.50sedatedChipmunkwith a curved mask
07:26.15lhunathcan't be too hard to make
07:26.34lhunathit's truely easy with dart, but that's oldschool now
07:26.38lhunathtruly*
07:26.54NimbleRabitI'm still using dart T_T
07:27.20lhunathI was; and then I decided officially unmaintained addons aren't worth it :P
07:27.35NimbleRabitThe art is necessary, I cannot play WoW without it
07:27.55lhunathI have looked for alternatives, the closest I found was eePanels
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07:28.09lhunathwhich is barely worth naming close to dart
07:35.04lhunathuck. *panic* my wine won't start wow anymore
07:37.08XuerianI dunno, eePanels seems like a nice light replacement for dart, though not as exotically and horrifically featured
07:37.50CIA-1803rabbit * r28692 10BigWigs/ (97 files in 12 dirs): BigWigs: Stop bloating the global scope with our modules. This will most likely break some things, but the Test module works, so here it is.
07:37.52lhunathit doesn't even allow setting anchors. All panels are anchored top-left to top-left on UIParent
07:38.02lhunaththat's pretty stupid imo
07:38.15lhunathand evilelvis is nowhere to be seen; so totally unmaintained
07:38.21OverloadUTIn lua is there any difference between using " and ' ?
07:38.29vhaarrOverloadUT: no
07:38.33OverloadUTMy php knowledge is haunting me
07:38.42OverloadUTOkay that's what I figured
07:38.44JJSheetsjust that you have to end the string with what you started it with.
07:39.06Xuerianlol, OverloadUT. It haunts all of us.
07:39.18OverloadUTI still find myself changing " to ' whenever I notice them because I think it's more efficient :P
07:39.38JJSheetslol PHP has infected you.
07:40.05XuerianI admit though, not having to use format() or ..something..and...something.."else".. was nice
07:40.57KemayoPython.  "Whatever with a %s" % "substitution".
07:41.12Xuerianish nice.
07:41.31KemayoIt's random syntactic sugar... but I do miss it.
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07:43.24NightHawkTheSaneAnyone got any good suggestions for how I can quit my guild (that I'm GM of) and join another guild without looking like an asshole? :P
07:43.56XuerianYou're pretty much stuck, NightHawkTheSane.
07:44.09NightHawkTheSane><
07:44.11XuerianI know I loathed my GMs when they did it, at least for a while.
07:44.17Bejitt-. /gdisband, blame it on the hackers
07:44.18XuerianThough one of them actually pulled it off gracefully...
07:44.39lhunathnighthawkthesane: say your girlfriend's in the other guild.  The matter is out of your hands.
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07:46.58Bejitt-haha i've done that before
07:47.11ZandersAny suggestions on a quest tracker (like MonkeyQuest) that is an Ace mod?
07:47.17XuerianZanders: QuestFu
07:47.19NightHawkTheSaneZanders: questfu
07:47.25Bejitt-questfu all night long
07:47.27OverloadUTTekkub fix :( http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer_QuestObjectives
07:47.35OverloadUTEr.. I mean... please?
07:47.43lhunathzanders: I would have suggested it for our basic guild package.
07:47.43Arrowmastervhaarr: does that last bigwigs commit mean i wont beable to use VersionChecker to find out what versions of bigwigs modules my guildmates are using when I'm not in the raid?
07:47.44CIA-1803rabbit * r28693 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Let's not name a convenience function "SetRaidIcon" when "Icon" does just fine.
07:47.57ZandersLhunath!
07:48.00ZandersHah!
07:48.02Tekkubwhy?
07:48.03lhunath:P
07:48.05vhaarrArrowmaster: No, why?
07:48.08TekkubI've never touched cart
07:48.11Tekkubhave no need to
07:48.13vhaarrArrowmaster: How would you have done that previously?
07:48.20vhaarrArrowmaster: make them /print BigWigsMod.revision ?
07:48.34OverloadUTTekkub: I mean why it's saying No TOC data - it's my addon
07:48.43OverloadUTPeople said you probably need to do something to make it work
07:48.50Tekkubno clue, the script worked fine before the server move
07:48.53Tekkubask kael
07:49.05Arrowmastervhaarr: in VersionChecker i just put in BigWigsMod and it would get everybodys .revison, maybe i should look at the commit first
07:49.14OverloadUTOhhhhh Kaelten-Laptop.... ;)
07:49.22vhaarrArrowmaster: You can't query the guild if you're not in a raid.
07:49.22lhunathmade an ace updater for linux that uses dialog to spark things up in case anyone's interested.
07:49.25Kaelten-Laptophrm?
07:49.37Arrowmastervhaarr: yes you can
07:49.48OverloadUTDo you know why my addon page is saying No TOC data? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer_QuestObjectives
07:49.54Xuerianlhunath: I'd try it if I used linux :D
07:50.03OverloadUTI have a TOC and I followed the directions to make it as well formed as I can
07:50.03Arrowmastervhaarr: with ck's VersionChecker addon, not the builtin bigwigs version query
07:50.06Kaelten-Laptopthat script is broke and I havn't had a chance to look at it yet
07:50.12vhaarrArrowmaster: ah, that thing
07:50.16vhaarrArrowmaster: No, that won't work now.
07:50.25Arrowmasteroh well
07:50.50OverloadUTAh, okay. Finally! That's all I wanted to hear; I kept thinking I was doing something wrong. :P
07:50.59vhaarrArrowmaster: I thought you were talking about the version checker plugin, obviously.
07:51.43vhaarrArrowmaster: Actually, it might work, I'm not sure.
07:51.53vhaarrlet me test
07:53.53vhaarrhm, no
07:54.00vhaarrIt can be made to work, though.
07:54.31OverloadUTCan anyone tlel me what's wrong with this?
07:54.36OverloadUTs/tlel/tell/
07:54.47OverloadUTOh how about I paste the URL http://ace.pastey.net/7013?hi=7
07:55.18vhaarrOverloadUT: First of all, you don't have to unhook manually.
07:55.28vhaarrOverloadUT: If you did, most of the point of AceHook would be gone.
07:55.37OverloadUTOh. Well that makes sense!
07:55.53vhaarrOverloadUT: Second, the actual problem is that you don't provide what to unhook it from.
07:57.10OverloadUTOh I see now. I read the API doc incorrectly
07:57.11JJSheetsvhaarr, do you want any decimal places in the display of DPS?
07:57.20vhaarrJJSheets: no
07:57.24JJSheetsk
07:58.09JJSheetscan I do that with a string.format("%.0f",dps)?
07:58.44vhaarrJJSheets: A math.floor is faster.
07:58.53JJSheetsah.  cool.
08:00.00Solehmm, creating an action bar addon is a bit tricky, hard to start
08:00.13Icerothwhat are you doing?)
08:00.43Solesprocket 2.0
08:00.48Arrowmastervhaarr: this will break wont it? self:ScheduleEvent(function() mod.vulnerability = nil end, 2.5)
08:00.49Iceroth:o
08:01.04Soleyes, Im fucking stupid for even thinking of it, gonna put myself through hell I think
08:01.05IndustrialSole: ah man, wobin just started a similar project
08:01.06Solebut oh well
08:01.08vhaarrArrowmaster: From where?
08:01.15Arrowmasterchromag
08:01.19Sole~seen Wobin
08:01.46purlwobin is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 56m 39s) #wowace (6h 56m 39s). Has said a total of 90 messages. Is idling for 1h 15m 29s, last said: 'well only because not true == false'.
08:01.46vhaarrArrowmaster: Where is the code?
08:01.46Solecmon you stupid bot
08:01.49vhaarrArrowmaster: If it's in the module then it won't break.
08:01.50CIA-1803overloadut * r28694 10MarkMyWords/ (. Locale-enUS.lua MarkMyWords.lua MarkMyWords.toc):
08:01.51CIA-18MarkMyWords: initial commit
08:01.51CIA-18- Allows party members to mark targets by sending the party leader a tell like ".mark skull" or ".mark pink" or ".mark 3"
08:01.51CIA-18- Party members do not need this mod, but the leader must.
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08:02.04vhaarrArrowmaster: If it's something you have in a macro to supplement the module, then yeah, that will break.
08:02.08Sole#join wowi-lounge
08:02.36Arrowmastervhaarr: ok nvm then
08:03.06Icerothbut but.. sole needs his # too
08:03.10Icerothit's just misplaced
08:03.16Solequiet infidels
08:03.26Solehey guys
08:03.36Soleanyone know the extent of wobin's project
08:04.04Solebecause what I have in mind is something along the lines of a proper action bar addon with a setting for each action bar - circular/horizontal/vertical
08:04.33JJSheetsvhaarr, http://ace.pastey.net/7014
08:04.57Icerothwasn't someone talking about making something like this bottom bar here: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/pix/big_OS_Clone25.jpg ?
08:04.57Soleall can only be shown on a keypress of course, but I figure most people would use the horizontal/vertical ones as always visible and just have 1 base button that slides out a bunch of stuff that needs to be on the action bar but isnt crucial enough to always be shown
08:04.59Soleyou get my gist?
08:05.15Soleiceroth: thatd be me about 2 months ago :p
08:05.26Icerothso my memory still serves me
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08:05.30Icerothwhat happened to it?)
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08:07.45Icerothoh don't you avoid my question by faking a dc
08:07.53Sole_^^
08:07.59JJSheetslol
08:08.00Iceroth10:05:29 < Iceroth> what happened to it?)
08:08.16Sole_uhm nothing, I just never got round to kicking my ass into gear
08:08.30ZandersI don't suppose anyone knows how to add a font to SCT?
08:08.35vhaarrJJSheets: yeah, looks good, remember to set svn keyword Rev when you commit
08:08.53Sole_did wobin say any specifics on his project?
08:09.26Punkie`Zanders: easiest way is to rename a font you want to an existing one and overwrite it
08:09.37lhunathzanders: you edit the lua files, not too hard
08:09.37CIA-1803overloadut * r28695 10MarkMyWords/:
08:09.37CIA-18MarkMyWords:
08:09.37CIA-18- Set externals
08:09.47ZandersAh, thanks Punkie.
08:09.51Icerothtoo bad.. that's exactly what i'd need.. i have tons of spells i use like a couple of times a day: too much fuzz to dig them from spellbook but just quite not enough to reserve a spot from action bar
08:10.05Sole_Iceroth: likewise
08:10.13JJSheetsvhaarr, I have tortoiseSVN, how do I set svn keyword Rev?
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08:10.21Sole_Id love to just put all my poisons and misc macros on a hidden yet not so hidden action bar
08:10.23JJSheetsnm
08:10.26JJSheetsit's already set
08:10.27Sole_and for those freaky people I just wanna code this
08:10.32vhaarrokay
08:10.32Icerothspeak like yoda i do also
08:10.52XuerianSole: Wasn't there a securedropdown kindof thing?
08:10.54Sole_keypress - pops up a circular bar - another keypress navigates to a button on the ring,     we can do some nifty shit with keybindings now
08:11.08vhaarrJJSheets: ah, that's right, I've set it already.
08:11.09lhunathzanders: yeah, I guess you could overwrite an existing one .. or if you want to add one, just add the name to localization.lua in the sct/ folder.
08:11.11Sole_Xuerian: dunno
08:11.16vhaarrJJSheets: Forgot that I had pre-committed some modules.
08:11.25vhaarrs/some/some empty/
08:11.52JJSheetsbtw vhaarr, PlayerEfficientHealing.lua appears to contain a small zip file... I emptied it out but have reverted it so my commit will only affect playerDPS.lua
08:12.03vhaarro_O
08:12.09CIA-1803overloadut * r28696 10MarkMyWords/:
08:12.09CIA-18MarkMyWords:
08:12.10CIA-18- Oops, fixed externals
08:12.26Sole_o_O
08:12.26Icerothbtw, any suggestions on how to utilize the extra space on widescreen monitor? i have like loads of free space on both sides now :s
08:12.37CIA-1803rabbit * r28697 10Violation/modules/PlayerEfficientHealing.lua: Violation: PlayerEfficientHealing: WTF.
08:12.41Sole_porn
08:12.43JJSheetslol
08:12.46Iceroth:p
08:12.54NightHawkTheSaneI agree with Sole_
08:13.01jjb_Iceroth: hehe, i bought yesterday also a new monitor :)
08:13.05XuerianAgreed, put up dual slideshows on either side
08:13.10Icerothwell then i'd need 2 setups, 1 when i'm alone and 2nd when gf is home :D
08:13.17Sole_lol
08:13.28NightHawkTheSaneIceroth: well, do like Xuerian says, but make one of the slide shows porn for her
08:13.34Sole_afk 10-15 min, gonna shower
08:13.37Xuerianhahaha
08:13.40Iceroth:P
08:14.55Icerothi was even thinking about shrinking the worldframe and putting 3-4 chat frames to either side
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08:15.21Icerothmight be bit of an overkill though
08:15.27XuerianIceroth: Are you already running on dual monitors?
08:15.28lhunathwhat's wrong with extra space?
08:15.39Icerothlhunath, it needs to be filled!
08:15.46IcerothXuerian, yeah, though wow only on 1
08:15.54nee|workPut some ePanels there with textures of dragons and whatnot
08:16.02jjb_1600x1050?
08:16.07nee|workAnd use up all the space you gained by getting a wide-screen in the first place
08:16.16Iceroth1680x1050 it was iirc
08:16.49CIA-1803jjsheets * r28698 10Violation/modules/PlayerDPS.lua: Violation: Player DPS module.
08:16.50jjb_i got around 10cm space on my 20" widescreen
08:16.50lhunathiceroth: I'm too used to trying to get rid of things to get more space in order to help you waste space :P
08:16.58XuerianIceroth: convert your ui to a side-aligned instead of top-and-bottom aligned one. Put generous-sized party frames on one side, raid frames on the other side, or frames on one side and actionbuttons on the other (you're using keys or clique for what you do regularly, aren't you?)
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08:19.29Tekkubhum, I need to find me a popbar mod to rip apart
08:20.27JJSheetsvhaarr I'm looking into HPS now...
08:20.48vhaarrJJSheets: rock on
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08:22.56Icerothhmm.. action buttons on 1 side might freak me out a bit too much :)
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08:23.34Icerothi'd need vertical fubar for sure
08:23.46Xuerianthat did cross my mind...
08:24.00XuerianYou might just be better with a single textured fubar along the bottom
08:24.19XuerianOr top, depending on where you like to be anchored
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08:25.03Icerothi prefer bottom but then again my action bars are at bottom and then i get those fubar popup panels popping up accidentially sometimes :)
08:25.53XuerianThen slice two panels along the bottom either side of your core actionbars, and put the extra info in a popdown bar at the top
08:25.59OverloadUTYay all done with version 1. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/MarkMyWords
08:26.32JJSheetsvhaarr, should I track HPS using in combat time?  or should I try to come up with some other solution?  in combat HPS would be easiest, it's an almost word for word duplication of DPS...
08:26.45Icerothwhich reminds me, is there any way to /target diamond etc?
08:26.51OverloadUTSadly no
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08:27.01Icerothteh sux
08:27.11vhaarrJJSheets: I'm thinking maybe they should both start from the first moment you are in combat *and* you do something, and then stop at -combat.
08:27.15Sole_so the red hot chilli peppers are coming to NZ
08:27.25Sole_might go ^^
08:27.25vhaarrJJSheets: So it won't actually start the timer until you cast a heal or deal damage.
08:27.28OverloadUTThat would get around the "no logic in targetting" restriction because assigning icons is not protected
08:27.28Icerothsleeping those mana feeders before curator in kara blows
08:27.40vhaarrJJSheets: But I am not sure, I've never used any DPS meters, so I don't know how they usually work.
08:28.01JJSheetsheh... we'll go with that until the inevitable bitchfest I think.
08:28.30Sole_whoever guesses the correct artist for these lyrics gets a cookie
08:28.34ilifinis Violation working yet?
08:28.40Sole_'deep in the night, Im lookin for some fun'
08:28.46Sole_'deep in the night, Im lookin for some love'
08:28.49Icerothi'd be satisfied if /target <diamond> would work even ooc
08:28.57Sole_'oooh you touch my tralala'  'my ding ding dong'
08:28.59SunTigerIWANNATAKEYOUTOAGAYBAR
08:29.07ilifinthats that gay named german
08:29.11ilifinwtf is his name again..
08:29.13Sole_^^ winners
08:29.33Sole_gunther
08:29.37ilifinah ofc
08:29.40JJSheetsvhaarr, in addition, that choice lets me get rid of the REGEN_DISABLED event, since it won't start tracking until damage/healing is actually done.
08:29.53Sole_he is so dirty, I love it
08:30.02vhaarrJJSheets: So you agree, or?
08:30.12nee|workEgh, one of my colleagues just had a problem:
08:30.19JJSheetsAgree. Who really needs to see HPS out of combat?
08:30.23Sole_nee: doo tell
08:30.26nee|workI'm getting plusses on my screen! They don't stop!
08:30.45nee|workTurns out she had a folder on her wireless keyboard, pushing down on the keys
08:30.48Icerothtell him to lift his elbow from the numpad
08:30.51nee|work:P
08:31.04Icerothoh, her, even better
08:31.08Icerothblonde too?
08:31.25nee|workYes, but I don't believe in blonde being dumb. I'm blonde too afterall.
08:31.41Icerothbut it makes the story so much cooler
08:31.50JJSheetsoh god... pebkac errors, ID ten T errors... bwahahahahaha
08:31.50XuerianHere's the secret. The dumb blonds are all the brunettes who bleached their hair.
08:31.51vhaarrJJSheets: Your IsDirty implementation isn't working.
08:32.02Iceroth"there was this blonde girl who had this stupidies problem at work.."
08:32.24JJSheetsvhaarr think it needs some ()'s
08:33.17vhaarrJJSheets: IsDirty should only return true if the data has changed since the last GetBroadcastData().
08:33.17JJSheetsah wait... it's inaccurate...
08:33.24JJSheetsI gotcha.
08:33.44JJSheetsreturn dirty ~= 0?
08:34.13nee|workWell, ignorance is not the same as stupidity, though confusing them seems to be very common.
08:34.13vhaarrno
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08:35.14vhaarrJJSheets: When GetBroadcastData is invoked, you should save a local copy of the current DPS at that time, and then in IsDirty, check whether the current data is ~= the saved DPS, and return true if it is.
08:35.27vhaarrJJSheets: So |return data[playerName] ~= savedData|
08:36.31CIA-1803rabbit * r28699 10Violation/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Violation: Add a tooltip toggle for all modules and fix dirty flag resetting in totaldamage/healing.
08:36.41vhaarrJJSheets: Do you follow?
08:37.05JJSheetsI set dirty to newDPS - oldDPS in OnParserEvent, this will equal 0 if it's not changed, +/- the difference otherwise.  thus IsDirty should return true if dirty is not zero, and broadcast data returns the change in dps
08:37.24JJSheetsthe way I do it prevents the need to recalc dps on remote data.
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08:37.50Xueriannighty, all
08:37.53JJSheetsbut IsDirty needs to return dirty ~= 0
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08:37.59JJSheetsnot what my commit had
08:38.12vhaarrJJSheets: err, DPS is a static number, it doesn't have to be recalculated.
08:38.39SunTigerIsDirty(IsDirty()) ?
08:38.46vhaarrJJSheets: you simply send your DPS, and the other players pick it up, so the only thing you need to check is whether or not your DPS has changed since the last broadcast
08:38.55vhaarrJJSheets: and if it hasn't, it's not dirty
08:39.07Soleyou go rabbit
08:39.25vhaarrJJSheets: maybe I'm just tired and both our ways result in the same thing, I don't know
08:39.43JJSheetslet me wrap my head around it a bit... you may be right...
08:41.31JJSheetsokay.... if you hit once for 10 damage in one second, you have 10 DPS.  If you hit again for 10 damage the next second, you still have 10 DPS.  If you try to add the first 10 DPS to the second 10 DPS you get 20 DPS which is inaccurate.  you have to track time in combat and damage for yourself locally.
08:41.57SoleDPS = dmg/time
08:42.39JJSheetsOnParserEvent saves the difference between the last DPS and the new DPS as calculated by data[playerName] / seconds, in dirty.
08:42.58vhaarrJJSheets: I'm saying you don't need to track the difference.
08:43.11vhaarrJJSheets: You just need to track *whether* it's different.
08:43.42JJSheetsah.
08:43.49JJSheetsfo shizzle.
08:43.56JJSheetsI comprehend now.
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08:44.02JJSheetsHow stupid of me.
08:44.04JJSheetslol
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08:44.58JJSheetsyou mean to have getbroadcastdata return data[playername] / seconds] and only have dirty track whether the dps changes at all.
08:45.36JJSheetsunfortunately, this would require three calculations of dps, the third being in getbroadcastdata. might as well save the difference and save the division.
08:46.00JJSheetsbut either way will produce the same result
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08:47.05JJSheetsthough I could get it down to only one DPS calc per parserevent...
08:47.23JJSheetsby caching the last DPS in a local, and using my difference method.
08:48.06CIA-1803rabbit * r28700 10Violation/modules/PlayerTotalHealing.lua: Violation: PlayerTotalHealing: Bugfix.
08:57.39[Ammo]morning
08:59.08JJSheetsvhaarr, this is my suggestion to fix my data broadcast bug. And prevent tracking DPS until damage is done.   http://ace.pastey.net/7015
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08:59.48Solehi ammo
09:00.21ckknightis Automaton preventing me from getting trades?
09:00.34JJSheetsit could be
09:00.49[Ammo]either automaton or postal, both touch the cvar
09:00.53[Ammo]I think
09:02.35CIA-1803rabbit * r28701 10Violation/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Violation: Only do tooltip updates from the core.
09:03.00vhaarrJJSheets: I'll review it later today, just commit.
09:03.20JJSheetsk, want me to commit the identical PlayerHPS?
09:03.33JJSheetsidentical except for tracking Heals....
09:04.09vhaarrremove the self.core:UpdateDisplay() and yes
09:05.58mitch0morgen
09:08.58mitch0is the in-combact lockdown released by the time PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED is fired?
09:10.58CIA-1803jjsheets * r28702 10Violation/modules/ (PlayerDPS.lua PlayerHPS.lua): Violation: Updated PlayerDPS, added PlayerHPS.
09:14.14Solewould anyone care to comment on my current action bar inheritance scheme, basicly I will have a base Bar class, and then I will have Circle, Straight and Zoom classes inherit from Bar, theres not much difference between them but it seems like enough to warrant a separate class
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09:18.05mitch0how do I clear the focus unit with the API? pass a null to FocusUnit()?
09:18.14mitch0or is there a "none" unit?
09:18.55nymbiayou cant call FocusUnit
09:19.02mitch0sure you can
09:19.25mitch0just not during combat
09:19.29nymbiablocky
09:19.41mitch0hm?
09:20.02nymbiajust tried it standing in shattrath, blocked.
09:20.27mitch0hm. that's strange
09:20.41mitch0shouldn't they be locked only in combat?
09:21.28ckknightno, it's always blocked
09:21.46mitch0hohum, that sucks
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09:23.27mitch0CastSpell is also protected, does that mean that it can be called from secure templates only, too?
09:24.10nymbiaCastSpell still works on some things, notably professions
09:27.55mitch0where can I find a list of functions that are locked down in combat?
09:28.17mitch0ChangeActionBarPage() is such a function as far as I know, but it's not apparent from the wowwiki docs
09:29.24nymbiabasically anything that can be used for player automation
09:30.11Kaelten-Laptopanyone know what an invalid label is in regards to javascript errors?
09:30.43evlKaelten-Laptop: any url I can see the error?
09:30.50Kaelten-Laptopnope
09:31.02Kaelten-Laptopinvalid label
09:31.04Kaelten-Laptophttp://localhost:88/js/tooltips.js
09:31.05Kaelten-LaptopLine 69
09:31.11Kaelten-Laptopthats the error though
09:31.36lhunathit means, what you're doing is probably a bad idea
09:31.47evli can't see the file :P
09:31.49evlit's on localhost!
09:32.00lhunathconsiddering it includes js
09:32.20nee|workDum dee dum
09:32.32nee|work*considering
09:33.00Kaelten-Laptopif (data['class'])
09:33.02Kaelten-LaptopjQuery(_tip_container).addClass(data['class']);
09:33.26ElkanoI wonder if WoW will run without explorer.exe running ^^
09:33.39Kaelten-LaptopElkano: wtf, lol
09:33.51JJSheetshaving problems Elkano?
09:33.53JJSheetslol
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09:34.08dottedElkano sure it will
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09:34.26Elkanowell, explorer went to 100% usage so I killed it :) to lazy to start it again, it's only using up memory anyways ;)
09:34.33dottedyou just have to start wow from the task amanger then
09:34.42Elkanothat's what I did
09:34.46evlKaelten-Laptop: and _tip_container is a reference to what object
09:35.18Kaelten-LaptopI believe its a dom object
09:35.39evlcan you paste the script somewhere, sort of impossible to debug it without seeing it :P
09:36.07Kaelten-Laptopbut now that I'm thinking about I think its a jQuery object, which is the problem isn't it?
09:36.25CIA-1803jjsheets * r28703 10Omnibus/ (Omnibus.lua indent.lua): Omnibus: Updated Lua Syntax Highlighter. Made it easier to give new pages names, while keeping it just as easy to create a new untitled page. Also, various bug fixes.
09:38.08Solehehe action bars are complex creatures to plan
09:38.10evlKaelten-Laptop: can't really know without seing the script :P
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09:45.35CIA-1803nymbia * r28704 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
09:45.35CIA-18Manufac:
09:45.35CIA-18- Fix default group initializations on foreign language clients.
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09:47.47JJSheetsMy new favorite word is Redacted.  http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0221071aniston2.html
09:47.58JJSheetsI only wish they had redacted her face instead....
09:49.45evlMy favorite word is punani
09:49.51JJSheetslol
09:49.57Solelol
09:52.45JJSheetssomebody needs to make a chuck norris spam filter for prat called HearNoWeevil.
09:54.47nee|workThey are still spamming with Chuck Norris on your server?
09:54.48evlsomeone needs to lear how to use the /ignore command
09:55.18nee|workOr just leave the general channel
09:55.25JJSheetsevl, I'm lazy.  Besides, maybe the rest of what they say has a grain of decency...
09:55.35evlmy new favorite reply is
09:55.40evl"have you got 2g plz"
09:55.42evl"i have more"
09:55.45JJSheetsand trust me, chuck norris jokes are alive and well.
09:55.49nee|work;)
09:55.54JJSheetslol evl
09:55.57nee|workJJSheets: Not on my server I think
09:56.07nee|workJJSheets: I haven't noticed any in months
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09:56.48JJSheetseh.  maybe it's just in the lowbie areas then...
09:56.50nee|workbut I'm not in the trade channel either, so perhaps that's it
09:56.57JJSheetslol
09:57.57JJSheetswell, I gotta get to sleep... ya'll have fun not chatting much.  :p
09:59.10nee|workgnite
09:59.15nee|workIndeed. It's quiet here
10:00.22Kaelten-Laptopevl: it was because I was using.   : instead of .
10:01.01evljavascript user error!
10:01.09nee|workevl: Could your Gossip be made to skip more gossip, for instance for the Smith at Honor Hold? Would it be easy for me to add rules for npcs not currently skipped?
10:01.11Kaelten-Laptoptoo much language switching :s
10:01.19Kaelten-LaptopI only use what half a dozen or so
10:01.20Kaelten-Laptop:s
10:01.24evlsame ;)
10:01.26evlactionscript at work
10:01.31evllua at home and some javascript
10:01.46Kaelten-Laptoppython, html, js, css, lua, hrm
10:01.52evlhrm? :P
10:02.00Kaelten-Laptoptrying to think if there is any others
10:02.06Kaelten-Laptopoh and I've been dabbling in C#
10:02.15evlyeah, c# is sorta sweet for gui shit
10:02.23evlneenee: I'm not sure, will look into it later
10:02.34Kaelten-LaptopI was delving into the inner workins of WAU
10:02.44Kaelten-LaptopC# is neat, but fucking annoying at the same time
10:03.17Kaelten-LaptopI've been working on javascript that uses super abreviated function and variable names
10:03.19nee|workevl: oki.
10:03.26Kaelten-LaptopI feel like I've been hacking on some of Rowne's code
10:03.45evlI just use Prototype for javascript
10:03.55Kaelten-Laptopevl: ever looked at jQuery?
10:04.41evlfor javascript? nah, I never do something complex enough that I need XPath for javascript really.
10:05.11Kaelten-Laptophehe, ya it does support that, and I'll admit that I've never looked at prototype too much
10:05.27evlit's sweet
10:05.29Kaelten-Laptopbut jQuery just seems a lot nicer in some ways
10:05.46evl$("my_retarded_id").setStyle({top: 10});
10:06.16Kaelten-Laptop$("my_retarded_id").css('top', 10)
10:06.42Kaelten-Laptopor .css({top:10})
10:06.53Kaelten-Laptophow big is prototype?
10:06.59evli can't stop laughing here, a dj friend of mine recorded this mix with only '93 rave hits :D
10:07.03evlKaelten-Laptop: very small afaik, and modular
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10:07.15Kaelten-Laptophrm I know jQuery is only 19kb compressed
10:07.18Kaelten-Laptopand that has all the functionality
10:07.23Kaelten-LaptopI really like its ajax support
10:07.28evlif it ain't broken don't fix it
10:07.30evl:)
10:07.37Kaelten-Laptop$('body').load(url, {params})
10:07.59Kaelten-Laptop:)
10:08.03Kaelten-Laptoptrue enough
10:08.13Kaelten-Laptopjust discussing, I'm still fairly new to doing anything major with js
10:08.49Kaelten-Laptopoff the top of your head is there a turnary operator?
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10:08.57Kaelten-Laptoper teranary?
10:09.01Kaelten-Laptophowever you spell it
10:09.16evlKaelten-Laptop: a = b ? 1 : 2
10:09.24Kaelten-Laptopya thats the one
10:09.49Kaelten-Laptopin lua its a = b and 1 or 2
10:10.02ckknightternary, btw
10:10.04evllua's syntax blows :P
10:10.09Kaelten-Laptopeven then its not a true ternary operator
10:12.51evlckknight: looked into SCL and ParserLib yesterday but it turns out Chrono also uses that one so I guess I'll have to run two libs
10:12.52JaxonWhat?
10:12.59JaxonOh, Kaelten sets off my hilight with ajax
10:13.01JaxonI hate you
10:14.39krkalua has wonderful syntax!
10:14.45[Ammo]evl: parser-3.0 isn't complete enough to be used for SCL
10:14.51evlruby has wonderfuller :)
10:15.04evlI see
10:15.16nee|work“ I tried getting her to play C&C I few years back, she made all these pink little men and didnt want to attack me because they where her ppl....go figure. –lol”
10:26.48Adirelle|workis there any ace'd "spell announce" addon ? could not find one
10:27.15NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: like a spell alert type thing? Witchhunt
10:27.45Adirelle|work~ace witchhunt
10:27.59Adirelle|workoops, not the right target
10:28.19Adirelle|workgooglesearch ain't online anyway
10:28.38Adirelle|workand not, much more like healix
10:28.57NightHawkTheSaneoh, something that announces your own spellcasts?
10:28.57[Ammo]WitchHunt will work adirelle
10:29.11Adirelle|workit can announce my own spellcasts ?
10:29.17[Ammo]no it's a spell alert addon
10:29.17nee|workI don't think it does
10:29.27[Ammo]it alerts for npc/enemy casts
10:29.58Adirelle|workokay, so that's not what I am looking for (tho it surely works nice :))
10:30.29nee|workYou want to tell your party/raid/bg-group what you're casting?
10:30.42Adirelle|worksometimes
10:31.01nee|workOnly with select spells?
10:31.10nee|work'I am going to sheep %t'
10:31.12Adirelle|worklike when I use misdirection (announcing the target) or when I lay a trap in combat
10:31.23Adirelle|workyeap, but I don't want to go the "macro way"
10:31.26nee|workag.
10:31.28nee|work*ah
10:31.31NightHawkTheSanehm
10:31.32Adirelle|workthat's what I have actually
10:31.35nee|work*backspaces what he was typing*
10:31.44NightHawkTheSanelol nee|work, i did the same thing ;)
10:31.53nee|work:)
10:32.02Adirelle|workfirstly, I'm using conditionnaly macro to misdirection : shift => pet, no shift => standard casting
10:32.26Adirelle|workand if the spell faills, it get annonced anyway
10:32.37Adirelle|work+u
10:32.40nee|worktrue.
10:33.15Adirelle|workthat's wouldn't be to hard to create with the spellevent lib, but if somehone has already done it...
10:33.38nee|workBut you announce before casting, no? So you won't be able to tell it has failed when you're announcing
10:33.51Adirelle|workboth are instants
10:34.13nee|workHm.
10:34.32nee|workSo an if succesful thing is needed
10:34.39Adirelle|workwell
10:35.15Adirelle|workthat's not so hard
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10:35.33Adirelle|workI may even try to drycode it :)
10:35.37nee|work;)
10:36.05nee|workI wish Smartres still worked
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10:49.27nee|workDo pet respec costs increase like Character talent reset costs?
10:50.54nee|workah
10:50.59nee|workPet respec costs reset every day
10:51.28nee|workIt goes from 10s, 50s, 1g, 5g, etc though.
10:52.09NightHawkTheSaneso you can respec your pet once a day for 10s?
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10:56.20nee|workyes
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10:57.10cncfanaticsyo ppl
10:57.21cncfanaticsis there any mod around similar to ct_expensehistory ?
10:58.02nee|workWhat does it do?
10:58.25nee|workIs it like MoneyFu, where it lists income/expenses/profit for every character, per day, week, etc?
10:59.22nee|workAh no, it's a bit more extensive I see.
10:59.26nee|workIt's like Accountant
10:59.46nee|workhttp://www.ctscreens.net/4004
11:00.18cncfanaticsit lists pretty much all your income & outcome in detail
11:00.21nee|workah
11:00.24cncfanaticspretty handy for an AH freak like me
11:00.27nee|workcncfanatics: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5429 <-- You want that I think
11:00.40nee|workAuditorFu
11:00.47nee|workshot: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full4673.jpg
11:01.25cncfanaticsnice stuff
11:02.12Bejitt-bah, been banging my head as to why ItemBonusLib isn't showing these set bonuses ... come to find out it hasnt been updated for this set >_<
11:02.26ilifinhey that auditorfu looks nice
11:02.54cncfanaticsBejitt, a lib shouldn't need updating for one specific set :s
11:03.04Bejitt-i wasnt saying that
11:03.22Bejitt-er, the set bonuses
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11:07.28CIA-1803rabbit * r28705 10Violation/modules/ (PlayerTotalDamage.lua PlayerTotalHealing.lua): Violation: PlayerTotalHealing/Damage: Only show two columns when there's only data from the player available.
11:08.33nee|workWhy is the bot called -18 instead of -17?
11:09.06nee|workThere. Updated my highlighting.
11:09.15sbumh - where is the violation window? :p can only see fubar icon...
11:09.49NightHawkTheSanenee|work: because -17 was/is somewhere else?
11:10.06NightHawkTheSane-17 is down for repairs? -18 is the replacement in the meantime?
11:11.19NightHawkTheSanemaybe -18 assassinated -17 in a plot to take over the CIA bots!
11:14.58Icerothmaybe it had a birthday?
11:15.36ZealotOnAStickcncfanatics: AuditorFu
11:15.49ZealotOnAStickOh, I see someone linked it.
11:16.54nee|workOkay, so my guess is as good as any I suppose ;)
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11:43.39hastenee|work: change you highlight to CIA-*, it rotates once in a while
11:44.06vhaarrhaste: You mentioned something about a CBRipoff change a few days ago? What was that about?
11:44.49hastemake the bar go from 0 to 1, instead of startTime to endTime
11:44.55hasteit will remove the chopping some people have
11:45.09vhaarroh, I haven't noticed any chopping
11:45.15hastenot everyone get it
11:45.15vhaarrbut cool, will do that then
11:45.20hasteI only have it on my warlock for example
11:45.25vhaarrweird
11:45.36hasteit fixed the prolbem on my version oCB at least
11:45.44hasteand several in the guild have said the same thing
11:45.55hasteprobably something with the optimizations in 2.0
11:46.18vhaarrindeed, must be
11:46.47hasteI hopefully finish my version of oCB this weekend also
11:46.55hastebut with my luck, something has to come up
11:51.32wobin_okay maths people =)
11:51.42SunTigercomputers die and you get the flu
11:52.04hasteln(-2)
11:52.45Wobinhm, rise over run
11:53.09Nickenyfikenhmm my CBR bar seems to chopp more with some textures, not sure though
11:54.02vhaarrNickenyfiken: you fix it then, because I don't get any flickering here, so I'm not really motivated to fix it.
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11:57.03clad|sleepProph: uncomment the line in PerfectRaid.lua that hides it.
11:57.09clad|sleepthe mana bar that is.
11:57.37Nickenyfikenwell i was just thinking if texture would make any difference... maybe just my imagination
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12:08.40nee|workhaste: oki
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12:19.09nee|workhttp://www.msrs.ru/off-line/_news/1/26.JPG
12:21.36CIA-1803rabbit * r28706 10Violation/modules/ (4 files): Violation: Better tooltip displays, and remove some unused locale strings.
12:23.14Wobinsigh
12:23.31WobinI don't know if I should try and understand enough about secureframes to get splut working in combat right from the start
12:23.41WobinOr just use it out of combat for the moment and get it going
12:23.57Healthin combat!
12:24.01Nickenyfikensplut?
12:24.11WobinThat's going to take three times as long to figure out =
12:24.13Wobin\
12:24.23WobinNickenyfiken: A sort of sprocket replacement
12:24.54Nickenyfikenaah nice :-)
12:28.27Grollhmm what forum should i put a subject about profiles in on the wowace forum? ace discusstion or dev forum? :P
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12:34.29nee|workI think it depends on what you plan to post
12:35.11nee|workScenarios in which either is favourable can be thought up.
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12:36.30ZealotOnAStickCombat would be nce, but honestly, I'd settle for an out-of-combat-only Sprocket.
12:36.39ZealotOnAStickA lot of the stuff I personally used it for was OOC stuff.
12:36.56ZealotOnAStickThe only in-combat uses I had for it myself were for consumables.
12:37.10WobinI'll figure it out for ooc for the moment
12:37.14Grollnee|work well it's about how they work :P
12:37.19Wobineven though I'm using securetemplates for the buttons
12:37.32Wobinwhich technically means that if they're shown when you head into combat, you can use them
12:37.36WobinOr something
12:37.46Grollbah i'll post it in the dev forum :D
12:37.47Tekkubhttp://www.pvponline.com/article/3158/wed-feb-21
12:37.53nee|workGroll: :)
12:37.54WobinJust trying to figure out the hitsector
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12:41.23Wobinargh
12:42.25hasteTekkub: the cats only do that, and eat socks here
12:42.30hasteand sleep on various odd places
12:42.54Grollthere.. post made.. go read you devs! :P
12:43.08Tekkubback in the day when my sisters had Barbies... they never had feet
12:43.17Tekkubcats are odd
12:43.24Grollfoot fetishist tekkub? :P
12:43.31Grollur sister that is :P
12:43.36Tekkub:P
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12:49.21xlviii hate the new alchemy discoverys
12:49.32xlviii've brewed close to 1500 potions, and nothing yet.
12:52.22nee|workhttp://www.pvponline.com/article/3093/sun-jan-21
12:52.25vhaarrxlvii: If only we could find comfort in the fact that we're not alone.
12:52.37nee|workYou're not alone.
12:52.52vhaarrYeah, we know, but it's no comfort ;)
12:53.09nee|workLet's create a guild. The Undiscovered Alchemist
12:53.11nee|workor such
12:53.18vhaarrdiscovery -> gkick
12:53.28nee|workindeed
12:53.40nee|workWe create a list on a site which lists who got slayn by which discovery
12:53.55vhaarr2 years later, the list is still empty.
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12:54.20ZiconI'd join that.
12:54.23nee|workAnd we give weekly rewards of herbs to the people with the longest track-record of undiscovery
12:55.19Iceroththe whole consept is mindboggling.. i mean, how many times when you've made that milkshake of yours you've discovered the hidden recipe of HP sauce?
12:55.32nee|work;)
12:56.06nee|workPerhaps it's a salute to the inventors of old.. Who invented something while trying to make something completely different.
12:56.29nee|workOh no! My nail-clipping fell into the green stuff and now I smell like cinnamon!
12:56.33nee|workI've invented Cinnamon!
12:56.38Icerothperhaps.. but then you wouldn't have the recipe of the thing you were trying to make in the 1st place
12:56.46nee|workTrue.
12:56.57nee|workYou'd just end up with a puddle of the stuff at your feet
12:57.04nee|workOr a random explosion!
12:57.06nee|workThat would be cool
12:57.09ZiconPff, if you're an absent-minded old alchemist anything can happen once you start brewing.
12:57.16nee|workExplosions during alchemy
12:57.38ZiconDoes this game really need more explosions?
12:57.49nee|workMake some potions in that slow bit in Karazhan and *BOOM*
12:57.51ZiconGo ahead, ask an engineer. I'll wait.
12:58.04vhaarrSomeone implement PlayerEfficientHealing and PlayerOverhealing for Violation, please.
12:58.10WobinI say the game needs more explosion
12:58.12nee|workHalf your party dead, the others looking for their limbs
12:58.17nee|workYes, random ones
12:58.31nee|workAnd how about spells which fail and turn you blue or orange!
12:58.40Icerothoh yeah, nothing is funnier than devices backfiring
12:58.43Icerothumm... wait...
12:58.54nee|workOr your gryphon tossing you off its back for not having enough flying skill
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12:59.30nee|workOr having your clothes made by a shoddy tailor and it having only 5 durability
13:00.14nee|workOr how about messing up cooking and creating some new poison
13:00.24WobinI say we should use the D&D miscast table
13:00.32nee|work:)
13:00.44nee|workI want cantrips, to let people slip or trip or to light candles :)
13:00.55nee|workOr to create a loud boom! next to someone
13:00.59ZiconWow. I can hear D&D players all over the world cringe just by the mention of that table.
13:01.20Wobinhehe
13:01.28WobinAll eight of them
13:01.37HealthI didn't know there was a Vialation!
13:01.52ZiconThere's only eight D&D players in the world? Wow. And to think I play with five of them every other week.
13:02.14nee|workwow. You're part of an elite group!
13:02.21nee|workBetter get their autographs
13:03.06nee|workwell, off home. I'll switch to neenee. weekend, woo
13:03.28WobinIt's not even friday =(
13:03.34Wobinbastard =P
13:03.54hasteMy weekend started 4 hours ago
13:04.09hastefridays off, and only one hour of maths on thuesdays
13:04.22hastethen again, I only have 17 hours total
13:05.43Wobinbludger =)
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13:06.48CIA-1803rabbit * r28707 10Violation/ (Violation.lua modules/PlayerDamageTaken.lua): Violation: Implemented PlayerDamageTaken, removed a debug print from core.
13:08.53CIA-1803gandharva * r28708 10MountMe/ (Core.lua ItemSwap.lua MountMe.toc):
13:08.53CIA-18MountMe:
13:08.53CIA-18- added patch from Shinja
13:08.53CIA-18- support of riding crop
13:08.53CIA-18- support for Eye of Storm Battleground
13:08.54CIA-18- toc changes
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13:13.16CIA-1803rabbit * r28709 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Add some information when no modules are running.
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13:31.07CIA-1803gandharva * r28710 10MountMe/ (. Libs/):
13:31.07CIA-18MountMe:
13:31.07CIA-18- fixed externals - hopefully...
13:33.06CIA-1803gandharva * r28711 10MountMe/:
13:33.06CIA-18MountMe:
13:33.06CIA-18again...
13:36.09neeneeand back home, baked some eggs. Hi :)
13:36.42MedlirBaked?
13:36.51neeneeyes
13:37.03neeneeYou might call it fried.
13:37.57MedlirI was going to say, I've never put eggs in an oven.  Fried, poached, hard boiled, soft boiled, raw even, but never baked unless mixed as an ingredient in something else.  :P
13:38.27neenee:)
13:42.10Gandharvadamn im too stupid... how can i make it that the externals are inside the libs folder when committing?
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13:42.45Gandharva"Libs\AceDB-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceDB-2.0" is this right?
13:43.42evlDoes Violation show anyone elses damage now or is it still yours and others who have it installed?
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13:51.58CIA-1803gandharva * r28712 10MountMe/ (. Libs/):
13:51.58CIA-18MountMe:
13:51.59CIA-18-last try
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13:54.36Gandharvahooray
13:57.00WobinMedlir: Although, apparantly the -best- way to cook an egg is baked
13:57.11WobinSome culinary scientist figured it out
13:57.24WobinThere's an exact temperature you need to bake it at for a certain amount of time
13:58.16hastefuck up and it explodes?
13:59.24neeneeNo, it drinks all your beer
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14:00.27neeneeevl: Not a clue
14:01.15hastenoes, my beer ;(
14:01.47hasteand I filled my stack today also
14:02.24Wobinodd
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14:02.36WobinWhy am I getting a 'enUS' defined twice for Cart?
14:02.47Wobinor cart-corpsepoint, anyway
14:03.51CIA-1803wobin * r28713 10Splut/Splut.lua: Splut: Now has a hitsector for hubs.
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14:06.19phyberhttp://fistagon.org/~janne/public/freedom_of_religion.jpg
14:10.32art3mis<PROTECTED>
14:11.32art3miswobin, 2 possible reasons: 1. you've got two copies installed 2. you've got an old copy with the plugins inside the cart dir as well as the plugins outside the dir
14:12.12art3misor the 3rd option, someone hacked yer computer last night and added a duplicate line ;P
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14:14.17chutwigwobin if you're updating use WAU make sure you have the current release
14:14.43chutwigi had problems when i had an older version of WAU that didn't quite get the package thing
14:16.33art3miseasiest way to fix cart problems: 1. use wau to leech and install everything setp 2. backup anything in the cartographer directory you need then delete the contents of the cartographer directory 3. use wau and re-update ONLY the cartographer addon (with or without externals your choice 4. login and enjoy it working right
14:16.39WobinNah, I'm not using WAU
14:16.42Wobinjust svn updating
14:17.19art3misthat will fix most of the errors in cart right now becuase of the directory srtucture change
14:17.23art3misstructure
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14:24.51mitch0erm, what's the name of the mage tier4 set?
14:26.26CIA-1803gandharva * r28714 10MountMe/ (Core.lua MountMe.toc):
14:26.26CIA-18MountMe:
14:26.26CIA-18- added option to disable FuBar-Plugin
14:26.26CIA-18- more toc changes
14:26.27neeneeGlassCannon
14:27.23mitch0is it the Tirisfal Regalia?
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14:28.54mitch0ah, it's the Scryer/Aldor regalia
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14:35.37CmdrTacodon't know if i'm being an ass or not, but files.wowace.com is like 6 days behind.  just figured i'd mention it.
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14:36.19mitch0CmdrTaco: <offtopic>are you from /.?</offtopic>
14:36.24phyberhow do you figure?
14:36.28phyber"Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:40:18 +0000"
14:36.32phyberonly 1, surely ;)
14:36.42phyberwait, there is stuff from today too.
14:36.49phybermaybe you opened the page 6 days ago? :o
14:37.01IndustrialCmdrTaco: ass.
14:37.11Industrial(no, im just kidding)
14:37.12CmdrTacomitch0:Yes, but don't tell.
14:37.33HealthWhat will differ Violation from existing combat data stats?
14:37.40phyberCmdrTaco: in that case, we have to ask that you remove Cmdr from your name.  No ranks here. ;)
14:37.50CmdrTacooh the javascript thingee is sorting wierd.
14:37.50mitch0:)
14:38.05CmdrTacosorting by datestamp, it is showing Feb 21, then 14, then 20.
14:38.07CIA-1803gandharva * r28715 10MountMe/Core.lua:
14:38.07CIA-18MountMe:
14:38.07CIA-18- corrected itemboosts
14:38.07CIA-18- carrot, spurs, gloves all give 3%
14:39.24HealthGandharva: You should know if mount speed bonus is capped at 10%! Is it? :
14:39.27CmdrTacophyber: Goddammit.  Don't make me restart my soul again.
14:39.38phyberhehe.
14:39.58Adirelle|workdo the word "CastYeller" make sense ?
14:40.05phyberHealth: yes, it is.
14:40.06Gandharvayes it is
14:40.12HealthThanks.
14:40.15CmdrTacoI fly at 456% w/ paly aura and 2 pts in pursuit of jusice.
14:40.29Gandharvaspurs, gloves, carrot stack up to 9%
14:40.37Gandharvacrop gives 10%
14:40.49HealthYou only need crop then
14:40.49Gandharvacrop does not stack with the other 3
14:40.57CmdrTacocrop is a bag space saving, not a speed gain.
14:40.59Gandharvayes
14:41.13Silviu-it is a speed gain
14:41.16Silviu-1.5% more
14:41.18Silviu-then other 3
14:41.19Silviu-:)
14:41.20HealthYeah, been thinking of getting one.. but sucks with use trinkets in pvp :)
14:41.20CmdrTacomeh.
14:41.53CmdrTacoanyhoo, your javascript date sorter is wonky.  if someone has authoritah, they could look at it and i would be tickled.
14:41.57phyberI have the Primal <thingies> for it, but I just need to get a transmute.  or level my priest so she can do it for me.
14:42.13CmdrTacokeep up all the great work.  there's some fantastic mods in there i can't live without.
14:42.17Gandharvahm, tb says: gloves 2%, carrot 3%, spurs 4%...
14:42.27jjb_any master of alchemy here?
14:42.29phyberCmdrTaco: sort by revision :)
14:42.41phyberquick hack, sorts most of them properly.
14:42.42jjb_transmutation i mean
14:42.51CIA-1803jjsheets * r28716 10Omnibus/Omnibus.lua: Omnibus: Fixed TinyPadImport feature so it actually works well with the new folio system.
14:43.12CmdrTacophyber: then i might miss a sweet sweet update ;)
14:43.36HealthWasn't there a commit log rss feed somewhere
14:43.37Health`?
14:43.52lys_Woot, Violation tracks DPS, <3
14:43.54HealthYou might not want to track all
14:44.14phyberwell, they get sorted by revision properly, but the dates don't match up.  it makes me doubt that whole date column.
14:44.17CmdrTacooh, if anyone wants ideas... i love the closetgnome/baggins thing.  wish Outfitter had the same.
14:44.24jjb_i want to know the chance to get 2 items out of transmutation
14:44.40renchapjjb_: about 10%
14:44.47phyberjjb_: transmute can give up to 5 of something, I thought. (with the primal might anyway)
14:44.49renchapwith my alchemist
14:45.04renchap(but i am not lucky ^^)
14:45.04jjb_moin winkiller
14:45.10winkiller:)
14:45.43CIA-1803phyber * r28717 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
14:45.43CIA-18XPBarNone:
14:45.43CIA-18- Removed some more parenthesis.
14:45.53jjb_i gave the npc 4 primal mights, and after i got 2 primal mights
14:46.03jjb_then always only 1
14:46.16jjb_already 3-4 weeks or so
14:46.22HealthNice! :p
14:47.04jjb_when i see screenshots about making potions iam to cry :)
14:47.10jjb_+near
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14:52.58CIA-1803wobin * r28718 10Splut/Splut.lua: Splut: Now you can drag spells over them, and they will work if you're the target. PS, don't get into combat with a splut open cause it'll really get in the way...
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14:53.32krkagrab your new FAIAP! http://www.wowinterface.com
14:54.05JJSheetswhat pray tell, is a Splut?
14:54.16WobinCan't you tell from the name? =P
14:54.24WobinSprocketish replaement
14:54.44CIA-1803tattersail * r28719 10IncomingHealsLib/IncomingHealsLib-1.0/IncomingHealsLib-1.0.lua: IncomingHealsLib-1.0.lua:45: improper translation. Hopefully fixed ;)
14:54.45Silviu-Wobin have an screen of it ? ;)
14:55.00CIA-1803gandharva * r28720 10MountMe/ (. Core.lua):
14:55.00CIA-18MountMe:
14:55.00CIA-18- Changed FuBar text from 0% to 100% when unmounted
14:55.10JJSheetsSprocket is that circular popup button thingamajig?
14:55.22Wobinyeah
14:55.26JJSheetsk
14:55.30WobinSilviu-: It's not pretty enough =P
14:55.49WobinIt's also fairly.. er... dynamic, in that you have to see it work to get it
14:55.54CIA-1803phyber * r28721 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFu.lua:
14:55.54CIA-18FuBar_BagFu:
14:55.54CIA-18- Removed some more pointless brackets.
14:55.59Wobinbut if you want to download and run it to see, feel free
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15:00.10Silviu-I will :)
15:01.31CIA-1803phyber * r28722 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
15:01.31CIA-18FuBar_TopScoreFu:
15:01.31CIA-18- Added 'local _G' thing. Whoever patched this for MikSBT support had just assumed it already existed.
15:02.33phyberanyone with a druid know if TopScoreFu is properly capturing "Mangle (Bear)" and "Mangle (Cat)" now?
15:02.42phybersince ckk made the Parser-3 change.
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15:03.01phyberI'd like to be able to close all of those bugs on WoWI :p
15:03.59Wobinhehe /. celeb!
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15:04.33phyberif only Cowboy Neal were here too :(
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15:05.05WobinAce2: Now endorsed by more /.
15:05.12krkazomg, was it the real CmdrTaco?
15:05.49WobinIt all adds up from the quick googlestalk I did
15:06.04Wobinie, his photo from a WoWmeet matches the cmdrtaco blog
15:07.36art3miswoo i have a dumb question
15:08.09art3miswau doesnt have a "just update the libs dammit" option does it
15:08.28art3misa single click as opposed to a go through and tick em all manually i mean
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15:09.34neeneeYou update libs separately from mods?
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15:10.23evlholy crap, CmdrTaco was here!
15:10.26evlInternet celeb
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15:11.49neeneeNever heard of him
15:12.04art3misthat's because you're not a /. sheep
15:12.12art3miscourse ive never heard of him either
15:12.18WobinIt's true
15:12.35neeneeBut then again, many people are considered celebrities of certain communities by their members, regardless of the size of that community or how well know the community is.
15:12.49neenee*known
15:12.50cncfanaticsis there any ace trinket manager ?
15:12.53cncfanaticsof gear manager even
15:12.58WobinCmdrTaco was the creator of slashdot
15:13.01neeneecncfanatics: ClosetGnome
15:13.11art3misi tend to avoid /. like a plague of rabid idiots self pandering to appear more intelligent than they are by arguing semantical differences and exstolling the virtues  of thier opinions ;P
15:13.55neeneeI've visited slashdot a few times, but I think people are trying their best to come up with replies that have high scores instead of helping the discussion
15:13.57art3miskind of like caring about the comments on fark that dont have pictures ;P
15:14.29evlWell
15:14.34krkai think the high scores are usually insightful
15:14.40krkabut maybe i'm just an r-tard
15:14.44evlslashdot saves me from not reading the same newspost an hour later at some other crap newspaper
15:15.02art3misthats what rss feeds are for
15:15.12evlrss is for people who don't like images
15:15.13neeneeAh well, to each their own
15:15.20evlso we can say that people who like rss can't handle porn
15:15.23evlme, i can handle porn
15:15.30art3miscorrect and news doesnt need images if it's written properly ;)
15:15.50art3misporn belongs on stile not rss ;P
15:15.59evlporn from stile isn't porn
15:16.06evlit's... disgusting :P
15:16.09art3missure it is it's the best kind of porn
15:16.20art3misheh
15:17.40phyberhmm, whre is ckknight when you need him.  I can totally optimise Parser-3.0 a little.
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15:18.11CIA-1803gandharva * r28723 10MountMe/Core.lua:
15:18.11CIA-18MountMe:
15:18.11CIA-18- small changes
15:18.11CIA-18- done for now :)
15:18.29art3mishahah
15:18.43art3mis"totally optimize" "a little"
15:20.26phyber;)
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15:20.34neeneehttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20070207.jpg
15:21.19Sapienshttp://sapiens.staticservers.com/oRA2.txt
15:21.28SapiensUpdated with errors from the last release. :P
15:21.33Wobinmmm snarkalicious
15:22.16phyberneenee: hehe, CAD rocks ;)
15:22.34Wobinnight
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15:26.54CIA-1803saroz * r28724 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Don't override default filters on load
15:27.16neeneephyber: :)
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15:36.21cncfanaticssomeone pinged me ?
15:36.25cncfanaticsnvm :p
15:36.49CionielIs it possible to make a macro that casts a specific rank of windfury on one of my weapons ;D?
15:38.45art3misit's like an ugly little binary joke ;)
15:38.49art3mis1011011
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15:41.22cncfanaticsis it possible to setup /use to use a trinket slot instead of a specific trinket ?
15:41.37cncfanaticsand can u make a macro to place a trinket in the second slot instead of the first one ?
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15:44.01pastamancercncfanatics: '/use 13' is the top trinket slot and '/use 14' is the bottom trinket slot
15:45.05evlcncfanatics: you can also use the direct name /use Insignia of the Alliance and it will only activaate if you have it equipped
15:46.30cncfanaticsevl: I got 4 trinkets I switch all time, such macro's are unhandy :p
15:46.33cncfanaticsthanks pastamancer
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15:47.21CIA-1803jjsheets * r28725 10Jigsaw/JigsawQueue.lua: Jigsaw - Fixed a bug with Smelting queue items never actually smelting ores.
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15:52.50Elkano\o/ my first Ony kill... and ownly crap dropped ;/
15:53.02Stephmwpally gear?
15:53.44Elkanopala and rouge, yes... they both had been happy but I wanted my moose head ^^
15:54.06beerkehmm if you have manufac installed and auctioneer, then manufac should show item costs right ?
15:59.00neeneebeerke: Not a clue.
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16:01.44Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4902.0
16:01.49Industrialim so glad this was locked
16:02.03Industrialor sles i woulda opened a can o woopass on him
16:02.44cncfanaticsbeerke: yes
16:03.05beerkecncfanatics, it doesn't !
16:03.10cncfanaticsbeerke: it doesn't for some reason though
16:03.12Industrialcncfanatics: I want FB2 done.
16:03.19Industrialcncfanatics: alas, i'm not your boss :D
16:03.35beerkeAye, maybe somethign to do with new auctioneer format or so
16:03.53Industrialill use my own methods >:) *grabs the whip*
16:04.08cncfanaticsIndustrial: busy grinding ingame atm :p
16:04.26Industrial^^ im just kidding
16:04.41Industrialem sew happeh
16:04.47cncfanaticswill take a while before grouping & GUI is done
16:04.49cncfanaticshardest to do
16:04.53cncfanaticsand lots of stuff to do ingame too :p
16:05.09Industrialholiday tomorrow :D
16:05.24Industrialive been counting down on my calendar man >;o
16:06.20JJSheetscncfanatics, don't you realize that WoW is just a glorified programming environment, not an actual game?
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16:06.32JJSheetsnow, get FB2 done.  
16:06.36JJSheetshahahaha
16:07.27JJSheetsvhaarr, you around?
16:08.40cncfanaticsJJSheets, true :p
16:09.08cncfanaticsIndustrial, I'm already on holiday :)
16:09.12cncfanaticsending monday tho , aww :(
16:09.36neeneemy holiday will start in march :)
16:09.39JJSheetsnow that you have been enlightened, let go of the desire to reach the next level... the desire to kill that next mob... the desire to find that new loot... bask in the zen of programming FB2.
16:09.40neenee10 days with my girlfriend :D
16:10.11JJSheetsor just ignore me and play the damn game... I'll use Bartender 3 instead... :p
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16:10.59punterAnyone has first impressions from LOTR?
16:11.36JJSheets~seen vhaarr
16:12.00purlvhaarr is currently on #wowace (22h 24m 34s). Has said a total of 268 messages. Is idling for 3h 13m 56s, last said: 'Someone implement PlayerEfficientHealing and PlayerOverhealing for Violation, please.'.
16:13.27JJSheetswell, I gotta get to work, later ya'll
16:14.02neeneecya
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16:17.43kenlyric|workpunter: not impressed at all with the beta.
16:18.11punterkenlyric|work: what's good and what's bad about it?
16:18.48punterkenlyric|work: compared to WoW for example
16:20.18kenlyric|workWell, the whole combat system feels a lot more sluggish, like everything takes a fraction of a second longer. The world itself feels *more* cartoony than Warcraft, even though they went for a more realistic look. And as a Tolkien fan, it felt just really, really *off*.
16:21.32neeneeWell, WoW is action-packed, fast and colourful
16:22.12punterhm
16:22.17punterbad for them
16:22.22puntertoo bad for them
16:22.39punterif they made it better they could get up to 8 million converts
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16:29.06Kemayoselect('#', function()) will get me the number of returns from function(), right?
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16:32.02CIA-1803kemayo * r28726 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Add a check to AddQuestWatch to make sure that we really got the quest name back. (Removes the possibility of a timing-dependent bug occurring.)
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16:38.36Barbanuswow, this is brilliant! "Please pass in this format : 8/8/1985 12:22:00"
16:38.54Barbanusso is that DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY?
16:39.13dottedlol
16:39.32Barbanusglad they have nice API docs that are ... USELESS
16:39.50dottedwho?
16:40.04BarbanusOh, its this things I'm setting up for work :P
16:40.09Barbanusthing*
16:40.42cncfanaticshow to equip a trinket in the second trinket slot with a macro ?
16:40.54cncfanaticsand how to change a macro's icon to one of an item
16:41.35Barbanus#show itemname doesnt work?
16:41.45pastamancerBarbanus: that's M/D/Y
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16:41.53Oridanmuh
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16:43.19Barbanuspastamancer, what country do you live in?
16:43.30pastamancerusa
16:43.41Barbanussee thats the problem :P
16:43.57pastamancerIIRC places that do d/m/y don't use / as the separator
16:44.04Barbanuscanada uses D/M/Y
16:44.22cncfanaticsthanks Barbanus
16:44.25pastamancerwell, what country is the documentation from?
16:44.33cncfanaticsyou know how to equip an item in the second trinket slot too ? Barbanus
16:44.34durcynanyone who doesn't use yyyymmdd is a heathen
16:44.39durcyn<PROTECTED>
16:44.50CIA-1803kemayo * r28727 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Add a check for other addons having broken GetQuestLogTitle, and print an error message if they have.
16:44.50Barbanusdurcyn, agreed!
16:44.53ilifinwe do DD/MM/YYYY in norway too
16:44.59Barbanusor YYYY-MM-DD
16:45.09Barbanuscncfanatics, no idea
16:45.22Barbanuspastamancer, its a UK company with a US office :P
16:45.30Barbanusso who the hell knows
16:45.46ilifinit's nice of em to use 8/8 as an example
16:45.53pastamancerit is a mystery
16:46.10trhin germany its: dd.mm.yyyy -  we got "points", we win ,)
16:46.19Barbanusilifin, hehe yea, 13/8/1923 or whatever, would be useful :P
16:47.05BarbanusEveryone should use YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
16:47.29Barbanusif nothing else, asc alphabetically = asc date :P
16:47.38trhBarbanus: agree.. would be nice.. but more important would be to finally remove that daylight saving crap
16:47.39ilifinoh man, we got such geniuses on my server
16:47.51ilifinunguilded 60 draenei shaman spamming trade with "WTB EARTHFURY"
16:47.58Barbanusrofl
16:48.04Barbanuswhat the heck is the point?
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16:48.09ilifinI dunno
16:48.14ilifinoh, he's level! 61 now!
16:48.21ilifinleveled*
16:48.30trhilifin: maybe he wants to buy a group to do mc? =)
16:49.00ilifinif he opens his eyes he'll see that the past month nobody has been even close to the MC entrance on our server
16:49.16OridanUK = dd/mm/yyyy
16:49.28BarbanusOridan, yea
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16:57.51Industrial!!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries? wtf?
16:59.26FinAdded:
16:59.27Fintrunk/MarkMyWords/
16:59.42Finwoohoo! that was my suggestion that was! :)
17:00.08Fingosh I am just so clever with words, oh yes I am
17:00.16Finoh?
17:00.22Finhow comes?
17:01.04Industrialsylvanaar: why?
17:01.49OverloadUTFin: Hehe yeah I liked it
17:01.49Barbanushaha, so the company says its M/D/Y, but they said that the person who wrote it lives in india, and they use D/M/Y, so she's not even sure if thats what it is really .. since no one has ever asked
17:01.52Barbanusthats brilliant!
17:02.40OverloadUTMy girlfriend wanted it to be "OnMyMark" which is also clever but I had already changed the name to MarkMyWords :P
17:04.42Finace :)
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17:05.53FinI love the smell of new toys
17:10.09TheKarndamn i hate quiet films
17:10.23TheKarncant these ripping groups learn to normalize before they upload?
17:11.12Tornhoofbyproduct of dd -> stereo
17:11.28TheKarnyeah i know
17:11.31TheKarnbut they dont do anything about it
17:11.52Tornhoofbecause it's kinda complicated to properly convert multichannel to stereo
17:12.15TheKarnmost DVDs have standard stereo available
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17:25.53OverloadUTWhat is the best way to make a set of options that change often, like any time a party member joins or leaves. Should I do it with an AceOptions data table or should it be a function to do DewDrop stuff?
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17:37.10art3mischeck smartbuff
17:37.13art3misit does that
17:37.32art3miswhen you shift between solo party raid and instances
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17:38.01art3misTheKarn: what about the groups that cant figure out how to rip in 5.1 ;P
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17:45.14OverloadUTart3mis: Thanks I'll take a look
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17:49.16OverloadUTHmmm smartbuff is not on the SVN
17:49.18OverloadUTIs it Ace2?
17:49.57OverloadUTOh wait CorkFu does it! I'll do that
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17:51.50EvilGrin|WinIs there any way I can undo a Cartographer_Import import?
17:53.55kenlyric|workcorkfu doesn't do it very well.
17:53.56kenlyric|work<3 smartbuff
17:53.56ClickmandooAnyone in here know PHP?
17:53.59KemayoClickmandoo: What do you want to know about PHP?
17:56.04krkai know enough about php to avoid it when possible :)
17:57.35art3missmartbuff i believe is ace2 but it's not on the svn, get it from either ui or wowi
17:57.52art3misheh ya know what i just realized about smartbuff today
17:58.05art3misthat if you set it to funtcion in target it mode it casts healing spells for ya ;P
17:59.17pastamancerkrka: agreed
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18:00.38pastamancerBarbanus: I was right!
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18:07.31Morcokhi
18:07.44NickenyfikenWhat do you guys prefer for dynamic web pages if PHP is so bad?
18:07.55Morcokpython
18:08.00NickenyfikenJust curious cus i have only tried PHP for web
18:08.06chutwighaha
18:08.07chutwigoh python
18:08.12Morcokruby
18:08.20NickenyfikenRoR?
18:08.24Morcokyup
18:08.36chutwigi wouldn't wish python on anyone
18:08.40Tornhoofno dynamic pages :)
18:08.43NickenyfikenI have to try it some day
18:08.59NickenyfikenBut i learned some Prolog today hehe :-)
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18:10.21Morcokchutwig : why ?
18:10.35chutwigMorcok: because i admin a zope server and it's a horrible horrible thing
18:10.53Barbanuspastamancer, holy crap that was awhile ago
18:11.03chutwigi don't like zope, python is painfully slow and obtuse
18:11.20Morcokpython != zope
18:12.05Slaymanfolks I seriously need a Firefox Searchplugin for wowinterface, anyone of you came across something like that already ??
18:12.16chutwigPHP may be ugly and not well designed but it's easy to pick up and is fast enough
18:12.22Morcokchutwig : what do you use for web dev ?
18:12.26hyperChipmunkwowi uses cached searches
18:12.34Morcokoh
18:12.35chutwigif i have to do anything i usually write it in PHP
18:12.45hyperChipmunkit doesn't expose a keyword-based search to the user
18:13.35hyperChipmunki tried to make one a long time ago; if it's possible to make, it'd have to be by someone who has access to the backend
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18:14.49HjalteDoes anyone know if the addon MonkeyPirate is working yet?
18:15.02phyberTem: do you happen to have a copy of ItemCompare about? I want to play with it again.
18:15.19Temum
18:15.25Temgod I have no idea
18:15.29NickenyfikenWhat's MonkeyPirate?
18:15.30phyberoh, wait.  I have one.  I didn't delete it I just disabled it in wow :)
18:15.35hyperChipmunki think i do
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18:15.38Temcheck the old OpenSVN
18:15.41chutwigpirate monkeyssssssss
18:15.45phyber## Interface: 1700
18:15.46phyberhehe
18:15.50Temlol
18:16.03TemI wanted that thing finished for the 1.7 patch
18:16.20Tem(that was the patch that introduced :SetScript, btw)
18:16.43Tem(and it's the patch that I suggested OnTooltipSetItem to slouken)
18:16.57Tem(only took him a year to get the free time to implement it ><)
18:17.04HjalteNickenyfiken: Have you played the "Monkey Island" games? Then you'll know. And i think i found a way to start.
18:17.20Nickenyfikenhehe yeah
18:17.34GnarfozscummVM = win
18:17.36Nickenyfikenplayed all to the end except MI2
18:17.44chutwigi am MURRAY
18:18.03Nickenyfikendamn i have to play one again
18:20.29CIA-1803rabbit * r28728 10oRA2/Optional/ (MainTank.lua PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: Revert my last change.
18:20.38hyperChipmunkyea, I had to go play through them again mid last year
18:20.44chutwigelaine!
18:21.16ClickmandooAnyone know php?
18:21.32NickenyfikenLook! A thee headed monkey!
18:21.43ClickmandooWhere!
18:21.49chutwigoh no
18:21.52chutwigwe're not falling for that one this time
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18:22.05sylvanaarIndustrial what?
18:22.14trhHjalte: it works :)
18:22.33trhHjalte: but the person you challenge has to have it installed too
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18:24.30FinClickmandoo: I think quite a few people do actually
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18:25.25ClickmandooAh, thanks.
18:25.55NickenyfikenHjalte: how do you challange someone?
18:26.11Nickenyfikencant figure out the command
18:26.19Nickenyfikenhave to dig into the lua i guess
18:26.29trhNickenyfiken: target a player, rightclick on the portrait
18:26.35trhNickenyfiken: or /mp <playername>
18:27.04HjalteRight click them Nickenyfiken
18:27.16Nickenyfikenah oki
18:27.18ClickmandooI would love an addon that, places a 'gold' icon at the top right corner of the vendor window to sell all greys, and also type /stack or click another button in the top right corner of bags/bank to stack all items and put them in the same bags.
18:28.07Nickenyfikenthere are many addons that sell all grey items
18:28.13trhNickenyfiken: but don't expect too much.. i wrote it in a few hours, so its very basic at the moment
18:28.17Elkanoautomaton, garbagefu, ...
18:28.26NickenyfikenAutoprofit (non ace)
18:28.52Nickenyfikentrh: ok im just telling my bro to install it cus i have to try
18:29.02trhNickenyfiken: have fun =)
18:29.19ClickmandooYa i know, Autoprofit the icon is misplaced and not a 'gold' icon
18:29.35ClickmandooHavent tried others Nickenyfiken suggested
18:29.40Industrialsylvanaar: !!!whateverthenamewas
18:29.59FISKER_Q!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
18:30.00sylvanaarIndustrial for people who dont want to unpack it
18:30.11Industrial<PROTECTED>
18:30.28ClickmandooBut a combination of, junk seller, item stacker, bag/bank aio, would be something i would pay for ;) lol
18:30.28sylvanaaryeah, thats what it has in it
18:30.36sylvanaarponder the irony
18:30.41Industrialle sigh :p
18:31.01Industrialcant that be built into Wau instead?
18:31.07Industrialseems so useless
18:31.58sylvanaarno, im lazy and dont want to test 100 more times
18:33.49sylvanaarits not useless,  now when someone complains i say install !!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries
18:34.34sylvanaarits supposed to be funny
18:35.02FISKER_QINTERNET sylvanaar
18:35.04FISKER_QINTERNET!!!!!
18:35.15sylvanaarTHERE IS NOTHING FUNNY ON THE INTERNET
18:35.33Nickenyfikentrh: it just says that player isnt playing :-/
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18:35.56trhNickenyfiken: than you mistyped the name - the player isn't playing message comes from the whisper
18:36.05trhNickenyfiken: or you're on ignore ;)
18:36.18ClickmandooWow! LUA is alot like PHP, lol
18:36.23sylvanaarit actually works too
18:36.52Nickenyfikentrh: hmm ok i did not mistyped the name
18:37.23trhNickenyfiken: uhm.. does /mp <yourname> work?
18:37.48phyberTem: know any good reading for tooltip stuff then?  since this code is kind of crazy and I haven't worked with the tooltips before ;)
18:37.58phyberor just the wowwiki api page as usual
18:38.00Nickenyfikenoh sorry its working now. For some reason he did screw up the installation
18:38.06ClickmandooTreasureModel:SetModel("World/Generic/PassiveDoodads/TreasurePiles/GoldPileLarge01.m2");
18:38.17Clickmandooits not displaying the correct model
18:38.19Temphyber, what do you mean?
18:38.37phyberI guess I'm mainly wondering about the hooking of the tooltips.  will wow complain about hooking them now?
18:38.40trhNickenyfiken: thats fine
18:39.00Temphyber, not really, but for ItemCompare-like functionality, you no longer need hooks
18:39.13phyberoh :)
18:40.20Tem(well, you do have to "hook" OnTooltipSetItem, but proper hooking there is really just like registering for an event)
18:41.09phyberI'm guessing I can do some Gratuity stuff for scanning the tooltip for various lines, like Intellect, Stamina, etc.
18:41.10Elkanobe aware that it might fire multiple times for the same item tooltip
18:41.50Temit will fire multiple times for the same item tooltip if that item hasn't yet been cached locally
18:41.56phyberinfact, maybe I shouldn't even look at itemcompare for this and just start hacking from nothing :)
18:42.00Temso the first few times will be the tooltip filling
18:42.34phyberat least, for the first parts where I'm just finding what stats are in each tooltip.
18:43.16Elkanowell, for recipes it still fires twice even if they are cached
18:43.31Temthat's true too
18:44.10Temwhich is fine as long as you do some caching
18:44.21Temcarefule cachine*
18:44.28Temwow
18:44.31Temjust... wow
18:44.42Temcareful caching
18:44.51FISKER_QAnyone know anything about games purchased over EA Link?
18:45.44snurrehttp://nihilum.co.uk/image/725/
18:46.01trhnice.. the riding crop doesnt add 10% to the complete riding speed percent, it does indeed multiply the current speed by *1.1
18:46.17trhso you get 220% on epic mount and 418% on epic flying mount
18:46.39ClickmandooWhat about regular flying?
18:46.46Clickmandoo120%?
18:46.48trh7% then i guess
18:46.57trhso 70*1.1 = 77%
18:46.58Clickmandoooh ok
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18:47.07trhbut i don't have a normal flying mount anymore, so i can't test that
18:47.39trhbut don't tell blizzard or they'll fix that :)
18:47.57|Pixel|*cough* :)
18:48.05Clickmandoowait isnt it 60*1.1
18:48.10Clickmandoo66%?
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18:48.22trhuhm.. yea.. thought the normal flying mount was 70%
18:48.27trhbut i may be wrong
18:48.48Funkeh`hey all
18:48.56sylvanaarvhaarr Im not sure that it matters, but  oRA:NewModule(L["maintankoptional"]) should be L["Optional/MainTank"] no?
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18:49.29Nickenyfikentrh: hmm is the game just ends after the first insult :-/ Said something about the other running away
18:49.29Clickmandoohmm im getting 100*1.1 is 110% so it may only increase by 10%
18:49.44Funkeh`sup
18:49.47vhaarrsylvanaar: actually module names should not be translated
18:49.55sylvanaaryeah
18:49.58trhNickenyfiken: yeah, running away = you lost, you laugh = you win... i said its very simple :)
18:50.17sylvanaarvhaarr i just mean those 2 things should have the same value - cause they are the same
18:50.37trhNickenyfiken: feel free to modify it to do more rounds/record stats/whatever :)
18:50.45Nickenyfikentrh: ah ok. If you expand it make it so you have to win 3 times or something :-)
18:50.52sylvanaarvhaarr prat has the same code so i see that alot
18:51.16Nickenyfikentrh: maybe if i have time over but i doubt it :-/
18:51.44trhNickenyfiken: hehe.. i'll maybe look into it if vanaskos is completed :)
18:56.45NeoTronso I realized that my buggy nodes in Exodar instead was gatherer tnat I accidently had enabled on a new character with old broken data :P
18:57.37kenlyric|workanyone have issues with the discovery of auchidon?
18:57.49kenlyric|workthe circle just randomly resets which parts of discovered.
18:57.53NeoTronkenlyric|work: yes
18:57.54cncfanaticsanyone ever tried to have multiple frames dragged at once ?
18:57.56NeoTronit's weird
18:58.02cncfanaticslike calling StartMoving(); on multiple frames
18:58.05cncfanaticswould that work ?
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18:58.54Grollanyone know of a procwatcher that works that you can tell waht you want it to look for?
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19:02.50durcynGroll: msbt's triggers are pretty customizable in that regard
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19:04.34Dustwhisperhttp://i13.tinypic.com/47slf6a.jpg
19:04.38Dustwhisperwhat causes that sort of linking?
19:05.33FISKER_QPrat
19:05.43FISKER_QAmongst others
19:05.53FISKER_QIt's so you can link items in non-linkable channels
19:06.14Dustwhisperhmm ok
19:06.16Dustwhisperi have prat
19:06.24Dustwhisperanyway to turn it of?
19:06.26FISKER_Qyes
19:07.32Dustwhisperhmm how =D?
19:08.04Elkanobut be aware that such links haven't been checked by the server and could thus disconnect you
19:08.36FISKER_Qdunno i don't use it
19:09.17Dustwhisperye
19:09.21Dustwhisperi wanna just turn it of/remove it
19:09.24Elkanowell, disable prats link module should help
19:09.25Dustwhispercause guildies see all that crap
19:09.37FISKER_Qah yeah
19:09.39FISKER_Q"ChatLink"
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19:11.31cncfanaticscan you call StartMoving(); on multiple frames at once ?
19:12.51Tornhoofwith some eventhandler maybe
19:13.21Dustwhisperthx guys
19:13.22Dustwhisperthat solved it =)
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19:16.07trhomg... i'm in love with my closetgnome
19:16.19trhafter the first date.. thats weird :P
19:17.10sylvanaarclosenome just needs some help with the set names
19:17.21FISKER_QDustwhisper just get people to download prat instead
19:17.24FISKER_Qbetter fix
19:17.55trhactually a guildie would also love if the closetgnome would be able to bind a equipment-slot use to a key
19:18.58sylvanaarif its not there, you can prolly bind the key siwth a script command or something
19:19.40trhprolly.. but i don't need that feature so i'm happy with my closetgnome :)
19:20.20sylvanaari just want to have an update set command
19:20.41trhguess we have to bug rabbit if he's around :)
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19:27.13stavmarhello?
19:27.52trhshh.. don't wake us ;)
19:28.17stavmarlol, sorry to disturn y'all just never seen it so quiet..
19:28.25stavmardisturb*
19:28.46Grolldurcyn i more want to see how often stuff procs so msbt wont work for that
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19:42.54EvilGrin|Windo Cartographer_Quests and Cartographer_QuestObjectives do the same thing?
19:44.02kenlyric|workno.
19:44.14kenlyric|workQuest = quest giver info.
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19:45.48EvilGrin|Winso I can run them together without bad things happening?
19:47.13OverloadUT|WorkThey are best when run together :)
19:47.33OverloadUT|WorkQuests shows quest givers and their status. QuestObjectives shows where you go to complete said quests
19:47.41OverloadUT|WorkThe latter was inspired by the former
19:50.32OverloadUT|WorkTimestamp test
19:50.35OverloadUT|WorkThere we go, much better.
19:51.47DeathfaceHow important is hit rating on a hunter?
19:51.52Deathfaceim lvl 64 with 0 ...
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19:52.18NeoTronI'd say on a scale it's bout 42 important
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19:59.07revvYou should be aiming for ~80 (which is ~5%.  15.77 hit rating per 1% to hit).  If you're a raider.  Aim for 8.6%
19:59.26revv(no pun intended)   :(
20:00.10kergothhey all
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20:01.30ckknighthas anyone asked the author of RatingBuster to put it on the SVN?
20:01.57kergothdunno, i use tekirate
20:02.11kergothfyi, if anyone here is stuck developing in windows and likes working at a console..
20:02.15revvI think I recall someone asking on wowi.
20:02.15kergoththe Console project on sf kicks ass
20:02.25kergotheither with cmd.exe or mingw32/msys bash
20:02.31kergothwipes the floor with msys or cygwin rxvt imo
20:03.08kergothtransparency, pixmap background, flexible keybindings and mouse behavior.. only thing it doesnt seem to have an option for is to hide the scrollbar
20:03.54revvURL?  16836 results when searching SF for console project.  =\
20:05.27kergothhttp://sf.net/projects/console/
20:05.36Stephmwkergoth: meh, I just vnc to my persistant X session on the server farm
20:05.49Gnarfozkergoth: huh? mine hasn't got a scrollbar
20:05.56Gnarfozand yes, it rocks :>
20:06.06Gnarfoz(should check for updates, been using it for some years)
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20:06.15kergothmine does, likely because i set a size on the scrollback buffer
20:06.19kergoth750 rows currently
20:06.27kergoththen bound shift+pageup/shift+pagedown to paging through it
20:06.28GnarfozI just have <width>0</width>
20:06.40Gnarfozand style flat
20:06.44kergothcool
20:07.08kergothits not linux, but at least i'm not going completely insane stuck in windows now
20:07.10CIA-1803jerry * r28729 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:
20:07.10CIA-18ItemBonusLib:
20:07.10CIA-18_ Large contribution to german patterns by daddelkopp, thanks.
20:07.10CIA-18_ merge all HEAL and DMG bonus table into one single instance.
20:07.10CIA-18_ Added a warning for unsupported locales.
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20:07.26kergothnow to get a vim from this decade built for msys/mingw32
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20:08.53StephmwWheeeeee, netsplit
20:08.53Gnarfozkergoth: I made mine look like putty (windows user) to not be annoyed when doing something locally for a change
20:08.53kergothnice
20:08.53kergothi like its ability to show the desktop background as its background pixmap though, dont think putty can do that
20:09.02Gnarfozno putty can't do that
20:09.06kergothaw
20:09.10kergothah well :)
20:09.19Gnarfozbut actually I don't like that anyway, so I'm not missing out on it :D
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20:10.31kergothi like it, but only if its quite dark, so only like 225 alpha on the tint
20:10.38kergothbarely see it, but it brightens it up a bit
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20:14.50OverloadUT|WorkWelcome back
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20:16.34cncfanaticszomg, karazhan owns
20:16.54cncfanaticsmidnight went down first try :p
20:19.57xlviiwhat class are oyu cncfanatics?
20:20.11Azurewrathhehe, same for us.. midnight is a bit.. mhm, easy
20:21.33cncfanaticsxlvii mage
20:21.43cncfanaticswhy ?
20:22.12ilifinno asscleave for you then
20:22.42Azurewrathasscleave.. haha
20:23.10cncfanaticsasscleave ?
20:23.12cncfanaticseh ?
20:23.21ilifinblizz's lovely new mechanic
20:23.29ilifinmobs' cleave hit behind them
20:23.31Azurewrathstand behind midnight and you'll see ;)
20:23.33ilifini.e. mutilating rogues
20:23.43cncfanaticsewwww
20:23.47cncfanaticsnasty things must come out of his ass
20:23.52ilifinI hate asscleave ;_;
20:24.01cncfanaticsget that aoe talent
20:24.11cncfanaticsand that, if I get killed I dont get killed after all talent
20:24.27ilifinwhy would I want subtlety for anything but pvp
20:24.31ilifin-_-
20:25.08Gnarfozin times of 40 man raids, 1 rogue who'd gimp himself just for having hemo on the mob was good
20:25.14Gnarfoznow that's not easily achieved ;>
20:26.27ilifinthing is, hemo is weaponspeed-dependant, blizz has stopped making 2.7-2.8 speed weapons, thus nerfing hemo bigtime
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20:31.54phyberwhat happened to Omnibus?  It's been lamed.
20:31.59phyberno buttons along the top of it now.
20:32.07phyberstupid slow ass menu.
20:32.54phyber~seen JJSheets
20:33.23purljjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 19m 56s ago, saying: 'well, I gotta get to work, later ya'll'.
20:33.23OverloadUT|WorkSo, all 8 raid target icons are stored in the same blp file. How would I set just one of them to an icon in an AceOptions data table? (UI-RaidTargetingIcons)
20:37.00CIA-1803jerry * r28730 10Talented_Data/ (15 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: Static data about talent trees and locales
20:40.00CIA-1803jerry * r28731 10Talented/ (23 files in 2 dirs): Talented: Update to add support for multiple talent trees.
20:40.22stavmardoes anyone know if there is a macro developed that can change out a wand in combat so i do not have to open my bag. More importantly if the macro itself could find the next wand in my bag and cycle through them i would be even happier.
20:41.53Ordogyou can still define a certain bagslot to be equipped afaik
20:42.03Ordogtried outfitter and the like?
20:42.35stavmari use outfitter, the issue is i would like a button on teh action bar to cycle through my wands, and if i change wands in my bag that it would know that
20:45.33CIA-1803trh * r28732 10VanasKoS/ (8 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: more code cleanup, replaced the player and guild kos tabs with a dropdown
20:48.44sylvanaarstavmar try /userandom "name", "name"
20:50.53ClickmandooDoes anyone know how to setup DNS Nameservers?
20:51.29trhread the bind howto... and cry :)
20:51.57Rycocheteasiest way - use webadmin or something ;-)
20:52.43kergothbind isnt that difficult
20:53.31Rycochetnot compared to trying to setup a mail server at least ;-)
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20:53.49kergoth"a mail server" is awfully generic
20:53.54kergothpostfix isnt hard to set up, nor is qmail
20:53.58ClickmandooNo im running a server in my room and i have the domain www.*****.com but i need to find out/setup my servers nameserver so instead of using my ip 66.**.**.*** as the domain it will use www.*****.com
20:54.01kergothnow if you meant sendmail... thats something else
20:54.02Rycocheti'm having one of those days i can't remember nouns :-/
20:54.04kergoth:P
20:54.12Rycochetsendmail
20:55.22kergothsendmail makes kergoth sad
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20:55.46Rycocheti managed to set it up once - then printed out the config i used... almost framed it too... ;-P
20:55.58kergothhehe
20:56.10mexicaanHi, i got question bout parserlib: if a hunter pet gains a buff, what value is the 'victim' attribute ?
20:56.12kergothi set it up a couple times long long ago, but happily ditched it shortly after
20:56.52Rycocheti always prefer imap anyway - smtp is boring ;-)
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20:57.52phyberwooo, I have some basic ItemCompare happening :)
20:57.57phybermy function looks like shit, but it works :)
20:59.13kergothwith focus follows mouse set up in the registry, Console for a terminal, an msys dev env, and a nice windows shell replacement, this is almost tolerable
20:59.17phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_022207_205737.jpg
20:59.37phyberI need to make it put those values after the actual line with the stat now, ItemCompare style.
21:01.39CIA-1803fin * r28733 10Prat/modules/Clear.lua: Prat: Clear: added /clearall (and /clsall) command to clear all chat frames; cleaned up metadata; removed commented out translations that were only getting obsolete; tidied code - proper tabs! hooray shiny shiny
21:02.53OverloadUT|WorkArghhhh why doesn't the icon parameter in AceOptions take a function :(
21:03.21KemayoBecause no-one has needed it to yet?
21:03.44OverloadUT|WorkI do :(
21:03.53OverloadUT|WorkReally I just want toggle options with a custom icon
21:04.00OverloadUT|WorkBut toggle doesn't take an icon
21:04.14OverloadUT|WorkAnd icon can't be variable for types that do take icons
21:04.15KemayoSo hunt down the appropriate people, and it can probably get implemented.
21:04.25KemayoI guess it would be ckknight?
21:04.49KemayoSince icon is mainly used in the dewdrop stuff at the moment, that is.
21:05.06ckknightthere's an icon parameter in AceOptions?
21:05.23OverloadUT|WorkIn an AceOptions data table I mean
21:05.37KemayoApparently so.
21:06.30KemayoLooks like you can specify it on everything but color and toggle.
21:06.53KemayoI presume this was added in for XLoot, since that's the only thing I remember seeing use it.
21:06.54CIA-1803kagaro * r28734 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: filerting fixes and more restrictions on what gets shared. i.e. waypoints wont get shared
21:06.57phyberckknight: in Parser-3.0, you set playerName twice.
21:07.46OverloadUT|WorkOi, maybe I'll just change to using a function to generate the DewDrop menu
21:07.53OverloadUT|WorkI was just trying to do it using AceOptions :P
21:07.58XuerianI originally added it for XLoot, yes, then CK added in icon x/y. It could be a little interesting to handle getting a function :p
21:08.09XuerianOverloadUT: it's really easier to use dewdrop directly for that
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21:08.21OverloadUT|WorkYeah that's what it's looking like
21:08.25kagaroheya
21:08.32KemayoOoo, cool.  I've never noticed the ~ syntax for functions.
21:08.42XuerianKemayo: ?
21:08.51Xueriankagaro: heya.
21:09.01KemayoAceOptions thing: "Note: If you provide methods for `hidden`, `disabled`, or toggle's `get`, then you can use "~IsGood" instead of function() return not self:IsGood() end"
21:09.12OverloadUT|WorkI could accomplish what I want if 'toggle' accepted an icon to display instead of the default checkmark.
21:09.18kagaroAdirelle: ping
21:14.52CIA-1803kagaro * r28735 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes: fixed a bug with notifications for duplicates
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21:16.22CIA-1803fin * r28736 10Prat/modules/Clear.lua: Prat: Clear: remerged deDE text; made this pointless by updating the description to include /clearall; changed to PratClear from Clear as module name
21:17.18Finwhat's the best way to go about updating text that's been translated?
21:17.37FinI think I might've just broken that little module for anyone using a foreign language version of it
21:17.59Finhmm
21:18.46Finprobably should at least update the text it's looking for in the local translation tables so it doesn't break, even though it'll be an incorrect translation
21:18.46sylvanaardelete the old string from all the locales, then add the new on in enUS
21:19.22Finaw, poor translating people, what an arse to have your work deleted like that
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21:20.14AmadeoShould I make a Thunder or Lunar Crescent?
21:22.56Finand did I see something earlier about not having to use the '"enUS string" = true,' format anymore? or was that my imagination?
21:22.56FinI suppose I *could* check the docs...
21:24.50kagarock: ping
21:24.52Finah, it appears that day I must have purchased a particularly fine rock of crack
21:25.54sylvanaari still want "group" types that act like "toggle"
21:26.15OverloadUT|WorkMan dewdrop is really fun
21:26.21sylvanaarno
21:26.30XuerianIt's functional. It ain't fun
21:26.43OverloadUT|WorkI think it's fun ;)
21:28.02sylvanaarOverloadUT ok, can you write me some code so i have have my "group" options have the added behaviour of "toggle"
21:28.16CIA-1803fin * r28737 10Prat/modules/Clear.lua: Prat: Clear: continuing with our Fin Learns Locales series: redid the locale strings properly; reset the strings for each previously translated locale; felt sorry for the poor translating people
21:28.31kagarosylvanaar to make them open and close /colllapse lik e?
21:29.10OverloadUT|WorkYou could specify an icon (the checkmark) and have the group execute a func on click
21:29.12kagarosylvannaar: of hidden ?
21:29.19kagaros/of/or
21:29.28sylvanaarwhen you click on it once no triangle
21:29.38sylvanaarclick again triangle
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21:29.58sylvanaarequates to toggling a module off
21:30.10OverloadUT|WorkYeah that's possible I believe. CorkFu does it
21:30.11sylvanaarthus disabling the modules menu also
21:30.23OverloadUT|WorkAlso you're talking about using Dewdrop directly, not AceOptions right?
21:30.25kagarosylvanaar: cart_stats does that with the side table menu
21:30.49kagarogranted its go sub items in the group but same principal yould be applied
21:30.53sylvanaaryeah, but dewdrop makes my eyes hury
21:31.05sylvanaars/hury/hurt/
21:31.25kagarowoot! quitting time.. back later on time to drive home
21:32.06sylvanaaryeah, the function i'd want to execute is :ToggleModuleActive()
21:36.14phyber<3
21:36.23phybernow I've made wow freeze with some tooltip:AddLining
21:36.29sylvanaarone of you shoudl put that in dewdrop, to give groups a groupget/groupset
21:37.25sylvanaaror collapsed
21:37.28sylvanaaryeah
21:38.14sylvanaaror, expandable, i dont know which word conveys the correct meaning
21:39.58phyber*sigh*
21:40.00phyberhere we go.
21:40.09phyberremoved the changes that made wow freeze and it still freezes
21:40.10phyberfucking thing.
21:41.04CIA-1803neuron * r28738 10nQuestLog/QuestLogFrame.xml: nQuestLog : Now draggable with alt+left mouse button
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21:41.33NeoTronso I am lead to believe that Hateful Bolt by the Curator works like Patchwerk's Hateful Strike. i.e hits the highest HP target that's not the MT. Is that correct?
21:41.54sylvanaari read 2nd on threat
21:42.04NeoTronI _read_ that but a friend said otherwise
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21:45.36sylvanaarbut yeah, ive been to khara 2 times, im like the guild flunky
21:45.50FISKER_QDon't worry sylvanaar
21:45.56FISKER_Qi haven't even been to kharazan yet
21:46.04FISKER_QAlthough i'm rerolling a paladin :P
21:46.10FISKER_Qso that might explain things
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21:50.01deltronhorde though right? :)
21:50.40CIA-1803neuron * r28739 10nQuestLog/modules/Notifications.lua: nQuestLog : Fixing SCT notifications resetting color to black
21:52.24NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: from my experience, it's the 2nd highest threat, but that's just rough observation, not any kind of hard evidence :\
21:54.45phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_022207_215343.jpg
21:54.53phyberin-line stat comparison, where available.
21:55.02phyber\o/
21:55.50NightHawkTheSaneneat
21:55.58FISKER_Qy helo thar phyber
21:56.30FISKER_Qoh
21:56.33FISKER_Qthought it was 1337
21:56.43FISKER_Qlike also comparing agility to +crit
21:57.12phyberRatingBuster does that. (shows how much crit you get from agi)
21:57.31phyberthis just compares the raw stats on the item.
21:57.37phyberfor now anyway, maybe someone will hax it to do more.
21:57.43FISKER_QYou mean how much crit you get from crit rating
21:58.08FISKER_QBtw what addons are you using for "May disenchant"?
21:58.11FISKER_Qaddon*
21:58.34phyberGFW_DisenchantPredictor
21:58.36NightHawkTheSaneFISKER_Q: the latest version of ratings buster will ALSO tell you how much crit you get from agi (and spellcrit from int)
21:59.22FISKER_Qoh
21:59.27FISKER_Qdidn't see they updated since a couple of hours ago
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22:04.03Finhooray, Alias works recursively
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22:07.37CIA-1803funkydude * r28740 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Gruul: fix grasp warning when you are dead :) remove sheduled grow warning
22:12.16WobWorkBad Request? =\
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22:13.50stavmarNightHawkTheSane: where can i pickup ratings buster
22:13.57NightHawkTheSanestavmar: wowi
22:15.35stavmarthanks
22:16.04CIA-1803phyber * r28741 10ItemCompare2/ (. Core.lua ItemCompare2.toc Libs/ Locale-enUS.lua):
22:16.04CIA-18ItemCompare2:
22:16.04CIA-18- A new ItemCompare. \o/
22:16.04CIA-18- Code totally sucks right now, but it works. Assistance on making this work with everything and making it not suck so much would be good :)
22:16.04CIA-18- Oh, and initial import.
22:18.32JoshBorkeYAY! another item compare!
22:18.39JoshBorkeso what's this one do?
22:18.45phybersame as the old ItemCompare
22:18.59phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_022207_215343.jpg
22:19.00phyberthis
22:19.04JoshBorkeoh, ok
22:19.24phyberin-line comparison of the stats, where possible.
22:19.50phyberthe code really really does suck right now, but it does the comparison of the basic stats :)
22:19.55JoshBorkecool
22:20.07phyberand it even works with RatingBuster changing the tooltip. :)
22:20.13stavmarphyber: how do you get the durabilities ion you paperdoll screen weapon/gear slots?
22:20.20stavmarin*
22:21.04JoshBorkehow're you gonna handle things having some stats and others not?
22:21.17phyberstavmar: Fizzle
22:21.30phyberJoshBorke: how do you mean?
22:21.43phyberon those shoulders, the missing stats are at the bottom in yellow
22:21.44JoshBorkeie your equipped item has int but the item you're looking at doesn't
22:21.47phyberif that's what you means.
22:21.58JoshBorkeah, i see now
22:22.19phyberthey should probably appear under the other line, but since I'm not checking which line I'm altering at the moment, it's not possible.
22:22.21vithoscool
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22:23.44ckknighthey all
22:23.51OverloadUT|WorkHowdy
22:23.51phyberckknight: hey :)
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22:26.33phyberckknight: I made a new poorly coded ItemCompare :)
22:26.50ckknightk
22:26.57ckknightI use EQCompare
22:27.19phyberah.
22:27.31ckknightis yours better?
22:27.38phyberit's like Tem's old ItemCompare.
22:27.47phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_022207_215343.jpg
22:27.49ckknightdon't know how that is
22:27.54phyberah
22:28.10phyberyou can see in the screenshot.  only compares the basic stuff at the moment.
22:31.32phyberin the future, I should probably have it cache the stats of the things being worn.
22:32.18Finif a user types "/arse" and presses return, how can I capture whatever it is that they've typed?
22:32.48WobWorkhook the chatframe functions?
22:32.51FinI would be most obliged if anyone could point me in the right direction
22:32.54Finyes, that's what I'm doing
22:33.01FinI'm just not sure which function to hook
22:33.10KolthAddMessage if I recall
22:33.11FinChatEdit_ParseText is only called after they press space
22:33.15WobWorkhad a look at chatframe.lua?
22:33.39CIA-1803phyber * r28742 10ItemCompare2/Core.lua:
22:33.39CIA-18ItemCompare2:
22:33.39CIA-18- Remove statFinished loop. That was from some failed attempt at something earlier.
22:33.52WobWorkWhy am I suddenly behind a proxy? =\
22:34.07WobWorkI can't commit =\
22:34.12FinWobWork: I have been looking at it for the last two hours
22:35.24Finhmm
22:38.17CIA-1803takadi * r28743 10Henge/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Henge: Menu buttons have been improved, now to start on using Waterfall-1.0 to make it more configurable.
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22:50.43AmadeoI need tons of Thorium :(
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23:02.06vhaarrAnyone tried the latest Violation with regards to broadcasting data?
23:02.14vhaarrI just drycoded it and haven't tested it yet.
23:02.26Finwhat is Violation?
23:03.53JoshBorkeFin: violation is an Ace based damage meters
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23:04.21FinJoshBorke: woo. thanks for letting me know.
23:05.35Industrial## Title: Cartographer_QuestObjectives
23:05.36Industrial## Dependencies: Cartographer, Cartographer_Notes
23:05.51IndustrialOverloadUT|Work: _Notes is part of Cartographer
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23:10.15lhunathis it known that changing the scale in simpleMinimap causes WoW to crash?
23:10.56Distruktion[Direjust tried it, it didnt crash mine
23:11.14Industrialckknight: ping
23:11.26ckknightpong
23:11.33lhunathhrm.
23:11.57Industrialckknight: I want to convince you to add more fine grained control over sliders in dewdrop. It just happened to me again.
23:12.00Industrialobserve
23:12.03lhunathtotally annoying how wow doesn't update its wtf files until logout/reloadui
23:12.06Industrialhttp://tinyurl.com/3brtgz
23:12.08Industrialthen
23:12.09ckknightno thanks
23:12.16Industrialhttp://tinyurl.com/3a2hog
23:12.29ckknightactually, nvm
23:12.33ckknightI'll put it in
23:12.39ckknightI'll await your patch
23:12.42Industrialadmit this is due to scaling and snapping the value does not help
23:12.46Industrial:p
23:17.49OverloadUT|WorkIndustrial: Oh, okay. I did it because some other mod did
23:18.11ckknightthat mod is wrong as well
23:18.48OverloadUT|WorkThe folly of learning by example
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23:28.24Nickenyfikenbut if _Notes is not loaded QuestObjectives wont work right??
23:29.05Nickenyfikenor cant you have Cartographer without the notes module?
23:29.11Industrialnot OverloadUT|Work's problem, Cartographer would have been messed with.
23:29.17Industrialyou can not load it yes
23:30.40Industrialckknight: heh. Im not going to mess with that code. It's your 3057 lines. Tell me; Do you think I am right? If not, how do I 'fix' this 'problem'?
23:31.02ckknightI don't see it as a big problem, but if you were to make a patch, I'd likely include it
23:31.14ckknightit doesn't help me, so there is no motivation to code it up
23:31.33IndustrialYou don't use scaling?
23:31.35ckknightNickenyfiken: _Notes is part of Cartographer.
23:31.44ckknightIndustrial: in 5% increments and such
23:32.15art3misthe part of most scalers that bugs me is that somehow it always skips the number i want
23:32.35art3misif only there was a fine tune with arrow control during hover or something
23:32.51Industrialart3mis: are you serious?
23:32.59art3misyeah
23:33.03art3misit's wierd
23:33.05Industrialthats what I was just asking
23:33.18Industrialand have asked before, like 4 times already
23:33.24art3misit's ALWAYS the number i want
23:33.29art3misdoesnt matter which number
23:33.32art3misheh
23:33.50art3misi can understand why its in round numbers like 5's
23:34.14art3misbut if it blantantly skips say 75 all the damn time because i cant move my mouse a single pixel that seems a touch retarded
23:34.31sylvanaarimo after about 5 seconsds of "fine tuning" you should have used the command line
23:34.38ckknightart3mis: it's cause the authors of the addons didn't put a proper step
23:34.50Industrialckknight: what if I want 3? check the screenshots
23:34.51art3misahh so there is a reason and it's not just me
23:34.57ckknightIndustrial: code it up.
23:35.05ckknightIndustrial: I'm not going to
23:35.06rubiki like scaling sliders when i'm trying for 70% or 80% and all i can get is 69, 71, 79 and 81
23:35.07Industrialckknight: I wont.
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23:35.13ckknightthen you lose in this case
23:35.16sylvanaarthey usually have a way to enter the value manually as text
23:35.17art3mishaha yeah there's that too rubik
23:35.40Industrialsylvanaar: sliders dont. ive been asking for a text value next to them
23:35.52rubiknot like it matters.. the SV lua will have it as 80.000000000291892 anyway
23:36.15Industrialrubik: that offset isnt even rendered as an offset
23:36.17ckknightrubik: if you want 70% or 80%, you should ask the authors to put in a sane step
23:36.18Industrialafaik
23:36.47rubikckknight: no worries.. it's not a big deal and most addons "play nice".. i don't even recall which ones don't
23:37.16Industrialbartender3, among others :P
23:37.41art3misheh i was using simple action sets for a while to swap between healing and damage bars
23:37.43sylvanaarthere is always aceconsole
23:37.44rubiki'm still stuck using bongos.. any advantage to switching to bartender3, btw?
23:37.52art3misfrom leel 67-70+
23:38.10Industrialsylvanaar: true.
23:38.30art3misi didnt realize that it didnt auto-update my new psell levels, that bartender does...
23:38.34art3misi felt special ;P
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23:39.02art3misi like bartender3 not really sure why, it's just nice and happy
23:39.14art3misone action bar manager is as good asthe next
23:39.16GnarfozI'm always amazed by how programmers tend to lose sight of realistic user behaviour ;>
23:39.37rubikreally? hrmm.. i swear my bongos auto-updates spell ranks on the bars
23:39.40art3misi liked triity buttons for a while during beta
23:39.47art3misrubik bartender does too
23:39.52Gnarfozwow does that, too
23:39.53Gnarfoz;>
23:39.53art3missimple action sets however doesnt ;P
23:39.56nymbiawow itself updates the spell ranks on the bars
23:39.58rubikahh gotcha
23:40.01art3misso it was locking my old spell ranks ;P
23:40.08rubiki misread and thought you said bongos did not
23:40.10sylvanaari hate sliders personally except ones with just a few steps
23:40.40rubikbartender handles stance swapping on bars nicely?
23:40.46art3misit's too bad there isnt just a text box instead of a slider in most casseds and you can just type in the value you want
23:40.56art3misyeah its pet and stance bars are good
23:41.15art3mismy pet bar as the only one that worked when 2.0 came out and eveything was screwy
23:41.25Industrialsylvanaar: does every addon with AceOptions that supports DewdropLib support AceConsole, though?
23:41.56sylvanaarbeats me, they could in theory, but may not
23:42.01nymbianot necessarily Industrial
23:42.27art3misthe main thing that i like about bartender and im not entirely sure if its just my imaginatio is that it "auto aligns" when you put bars of the same scale on top of each other
23:42.30sylvanaarthey have to register a command
23:42.47art3miserr above not on top
23:43.29Industrialyou are imagining
23:43.51nymbiayeah they snap
23:44.05Industrialorly? *goes and look*
23:44.47sylvanaarthat'd make sense so you didnt have to dick around with 2 pixels
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23:45.07art3misnods ive seen lots of bar addosn that dont do it though
23:45.17art3misthast more or less why i stuck with bartender
23:45.40nymbiai guess it's making a lair outta me since they arent snapping for me right now..
23:45.50art3misits a fine snap
23:45.57art3misnot a large range drop nea it snap
23:46.02art3misnear
23:47.30IndustrialI had to dick around with 2 pixels, but I got ithow I wanted.
23:50.13GagorianSince #table doesn't return the amount of non-indexed entries. What's the best way to check if the table has even one entry? or do I have to pairs it?
23:50.47vhaarryou have to iterate it
23:50.47ckknightif next(t) ~= nil then ... end
23:50.52ckknightthat's all.
23:50.58ckknightvhaarr: no iteration required
23:51.24GagorianAh. That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks
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23:51.57Industrialhttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5458/wowscrnshot022307004517jn4.jpg
23:52.02Industrialthere finally, slow ass hosting
23:53.48vhaarrah, of course
23:54.53rubikIndustrial: you need more addons
23:55.08rubik:P
23:55.13ZealotOnASticksuch an empty screen . . .
23:56.00Industrialthe quest text is bugging me though big ugly red/yellow/green spot in my eye ;P
23:56.28ag`ckknight: if I use the eventtype Heal and set overhealAmount = 0
23:56.41lhunathdoes anyone else have the problem where combining several chat windows back into one window with several tabs causes them not to dock but to position rather weirdly on top of the container window?
23:56.55ag`ckknight: it won't show a heal if just 1hp is overhealing?
23:57.01ckknightright.
23:57.11ag`ah, so I subtract it after
23:57.15ag`when I get the overhealAmount
23:57.16ckknightuse _lt if you want to do that
23:57.17Industriallhunath: blizzard bug, happens sometimes. pray one is bigger then the other so you can undock it. delete the chat cache file if you cant
23:57.18ckknightright
23:57.21ckknightyea,
23:57.25ckknightjust subtract the overheal
23:57.30ag`yeah, goodie
23:57.47ag`because it's passed to my method
23:58.44lhunathindustrial: will deleting the cache file also allow me do remake my windows the way I want them?
23:58.59ClickmandooWhat does dewdrop do exactly?
23:59.01Barbanusanyone online that has a good geared warrior who can tell me what their HP/stam is in tank gear?
23:59.13Industriallhunath: yes
23:59.32IndustrialClickmandoo: it provides the config menu for alot of addons
23:59.55ClickmandooDosen't DeuceCommander do the same?

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