irclog2html for #wowace on 20070217

`00:00.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Silly question... has anyone had issues with permissions on the changelog files in the zips?`
`00:04.22`	`Barbanus`	`NightHawkTheSane .. how so?`
`00:04.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Barbanus: they don't have any. :P`
`00:04.56`	`art3mis`	`so whats a good outfit changer?`
`00:05.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`at least not when my script unzips them`
`00:05.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`art3mis: itemrack`
`00:05.14`	`art3mis`	`ace?`
`00:05.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`no, but you didn't ask that :P`
`00:05.26`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it's good.`
`00:05.27`	`Barbanus`	`NightHawkTheSane, in what OS? sorry .. I'm confused at the statement`
`00:05.37`	`art3mis`	`checked the sites and i cant seem to find the "since tbc came out" version`
`00:05.45`	`art3mis`	`using wuu to update stuff`
`00:05.48`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Barbanus: osx, but it'd probably be the same in any *nix environment i'd imagine`
`00:05.50`	`Barbanus`	`itemrack is on curse`
`00:05.51`	`art3mis`	`so im wondering if thers a better option ;P`
`00:06.16`	`yacoob`	`art3mis, I use outfitter and I'm happy with it :)`
`00:06.17`	`Barbanus`	`NightHawkTheSane, ahhhhh ... windows only here ... sorry :/`
`00:06.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`art3mis: itemrack 1.9 works fine, but there's also itemrack 2, which is in beta on wowi`
`00:06.25`	`art3mis`	`ahh okies`
`00:06.31`	`art3mis`	`ill elave it alone for now then ;)`
`00:06.37`	`art3mis`	`since the version i ahve works`
`00:06.49`	`yacoob`	`thought faster than keyboard? :)`
`00:06.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it's actually pretty solid for a beta, the only thing it doesnt have is event-based switching. i havn't run into any bugs or anything`
`00:07.13`	`art3mis`	`yeah event based is sliughtly broken`
`00:07.21`	`art3mis`	`due to the whole "cant change in battle" thing`
`00:07.38`	`Barbanus`	`art3mis, the one on curse works just fine :)`
`00:07.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er, well, that's a given :P`
`00:08.00`	`Barbanus`	`Hmmm its always just queued for me ...`
`00:08.05`	`Barbanus`	`and changed when I got out of combat`
`00:08.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`but you can queue up and change once you're ooc, or change based on events that occur ooc ( like mountng)`
`00:08.12`	`art3mis`	`Barbanus: the one i ahve does too, i was trying to avoid having to edit the toc all the time if it kept pulling down a bad version though`
`00:08.36`	`art3mis`	`cleaning up my addons dir ;P`
`00:08.42`	`art3mis`	`lots of crap i dotn use`
`00:08.43`	`art3mis`	`oh`
`00:09.01`	`art3mis`	`do you know if thers an updated version(at least as of last patch) for Special Talents?`
`00:09.13`	`art3mis`	`its quite a groovy little addon`
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`00:09.51`	`art3mis`	`its an ingame talent thingy like on wowhead, that lets you plan out yer respec, save it and then oneclick train it`
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`00:10.06`	`art3mis`	`and shows all 3 at once`
`00:10.21`	`Nickenyfiken`	`art3mis: try talented`
`00:10.27`	`art3mis`	`same deal?`
`00:10.33`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
`00:10.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i believe it also lets you paste in wowhead talent urls`
`00:10.54`	`Nickenyfiken`	`no blizzard onces i think`
`00:11.09`	`Barbanus`	`one or the other :)`
`00:11.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`is it only blizzard ones? i don't really remember, i don't use it`
`00:11.13`	`Barbanus`	`but its nice`
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`00:12.20`	`Nickenyfiken`	`"Import talens from blizzard talent calculator"`
`00:12.23`	`Nickenyfiken`	`tooltip says`
`00:12.55`	`art3mis`	`http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=4272963&CartID=done&nextloc=`
`00:13.09`	`art3mis`	`for anyone that bitches about expensive cards and needs an upgrade ;P`
`00:13.22`	`nymbia`	`it appears to work just fine with wowhead talent templates as well. just tested ;)`
`00:13.48`	`nymbia`	`wait.. scratch that`
`00:14.17`	`nymbia`	`it just looked like it worked because it switched back to my current talents for some reason when the import failed`
`00:14.37`	`art3mis`	`heh ill stay with the addon i have then`
`00:14.44`	`art3mis`	`since i cant remember where i found it ;P`
`00:14.44`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm whats the reason for wowhead to use another format on the url?`
`00:14.53`	`nymbia`	`Nickenyfiken: smaller.`
`00:14.57`	`wobin`	`hm`
`00:14.59`	`wobin`	`it's strange`
`00:15.17`	`wobin`	`With Cartographer Notes, I can create a psuedo note over Vendors/etc`
`00:15.20`	`wobin`	`But not Quest npcs`
`00:15.53`	`Barbanus`	`I wonder what the encoding method at wowhead is`
`00:17.48`	`nymbia`	`"kf0y0ofZvg0zf0coeot" vs "2300450010230000000000054520001230003105310510000000000000000000000"`
`00:19.06`	`kenlyric\|home`	`"shorter"`
`00:19.43`	`nymbia`	`waste of zeros imo ;)`
`00:19.49`	`art3mis`	`hey wobin since yer here maybe you can explain something to me about heyfu`
`00:20.23`	`art3mis`	`when running prat with heyfu how come the message log in the fubar seems to be missing numbers?`
`00:21.14`	`art3mis`	`or to phrase it some other way "does it still think that numbers are colour codes in the fubar pulldown?"`
`00:21.35`	`wobin`	`Did it ever?`
`00:22.35`	`wobin`	`art3mis: Technically prat shouldn't be modifying anything it hooks`
`00:22.47`	`art3mis`	`yeah its wierd`
`00:22.50`	`wobin`	`Or rather, shouldn't be tainting the information`
`00:22.58`	`wobin`	`and if it is, big spanks to them`
`00:23.09`	`art3mis`	`someone suggested heyfu a while back and i noticed that it was making numbers into colours`
`00:23.23`	`wobin`	`how bizarre`
`00:23.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`maybe it just thinks all the whispers are paint by number?`
`00:24.03`	`art3mis`	`like someone would say "i found 10x[Arcane Dust]" and i would see "i found (blackcoloured)Dust]"`
`00:24.16`	`wobin`	`hm`
`00:24.18`	`wobin`	`how odd =P`
`00:24.24`	`wobin`	`I -am- filtering the numbers somehow`
`00:24.29`	`wobin`	`at least on the tablet`
`00:24.41`	`art3mis`	`yeah it does it in the hover for convos`
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`00:24.54`	`art3mis`	`and only "sometimes" in the pulldown->persons name`
`00:25.12`	`art3mis`	`wasnt sure if you knew about that ;P and didnt realize that heyfu was yers til just now`
`00:25.29`	`wobin`	`well just a string of numbers returns empty in the tablet`
`00:25.37`	`wobin`	`but appears to show fine in the dropdown`
`00:25.39`	`art3mis`	`booooo`
`00:26.11`	`Barbanus`	`"Talented:ImportWowheadTemplate(url)"`
`00:26.16`	`Barbanus`	`so its supposed to...`
`00:26.37`	`nymbia`	`weird`
`00:26.51`	`nymbia`	`does it unencode them?`
`00:28.33`	`nymbia`	`"Template encoding code is heavily borrowed from wowhead"`
`00:29.50`	`Barbanus`	`local res, val, class = pcall(self.StringToTemplate, self, code, nil, "0zMcmVokRsaqbdrfwihuGINALpTjnyxtgevE", dst)`
`00:30.02`	`Barbanus`	`seems like it passes a map "0zMcmVokRsaqbdrfwihuGINALpTjnyxtgevE"`
`00:30.07`	`Barbanus`	`which is the wowhead map`
`00:30.16`	`nymbia`	`oh, i see, requires the entire url`
`00:30.18`	`nymbia`	`lemme try that`
`00:30.25`	`Barbanus`	`Yea, it does`
`00:30.48`	`nymbia`	`yup that worked`
`00:31.09`	`Barbanus`	`yea, cause it searches the URL for talents.html to see if it is blizz, looks like`
`00:31.11`	`Nickenyfiken`	`nice nice`
`00:31.22`	`Barbanus`	`time to drink beer :P`
`00:32.37`	`nymbia`	`it should be able to take a normal ole string of the last bit, too. wouldnt be too hard`
`00:33.24`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r28219 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`00:33.24`	`CIA-17`	`PeriodicTable-3.0`
`00:33.25`	`CIA-17`	`-- Add Chest and Shield Buffs`
`00:34.35`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07AceHook-2.0 * r28220 10Ace2/: .Tagging AceHook-2.0`
`00:35.25`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07AceLocale-2.0 * r28221 10Ace2/: .Tagging AceLocale-2.0`
`00:35.38`	`*** join/#wowace Adston (n=hobbit_a@91.105.113.243)`
`00:35.39`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: Getting ready to toss some code around?`
`00:35.57`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07AceLocale-2.1 * r28222 10Ace2/: .Tagging AceLocale-2.1`
`00:36.20`	`kergoth`	`i -love- that talented feature`
`00:36.25`	`kergoth`	`paste the wowhead url and call it a day`
`00:36.59`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28223 10Ace2/ (AceHook-2.0/ AceLocale-2.0/ AceLocale-2.1/):`
`00:36.59`	`CIA-17`	`Ace2 - remove AceLocale-2.0, AceHook-2.0, AceLocale-2.1`
`00:36.59`	`CIA-17`	`- see tags for old versions`
`00:37.04`	`ckknight`	`done`
`00:38.41`	`Amadeo`	`What all can Talented do now?`
`00:40.04`	`wobin`	`hey ckknight`
`00:40.43`	`wobin`	`with Dewdrop, is there anyway a line with a \n in it make the cellsize taller?`
`00:41.34`	`wobin`	`At the moment, with long strings I'm getting a whole heap of overlap`
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`00:45.00`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28224 10BabbleLib/: BabbleLib - removed. See tags`
`00:45.33`	`ckknight`	`wobin: not to my knowledge.`
`00:45.59`	`wobin`	`alas`
`00:46.21`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`00:50.44`	`wobin`	`aha!`
`00:50.48`	`wobin`	`%S`
`00:50.53`	`wobin`	`Now we're cooking with gas =P`
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`00:51.22`	`art3mis`	`just remember that it needs to be on fire to be useful`
`00:51.31`	`art3mis`	`otehrwise you get to sleep for a while ;P`
`00:52.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sleep is good`
`00:52.53`	`[dRaCo]`	`great. that's a pretty useful discovery.`
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`00:53.12`	`art3mis`	`carebears........prepare to stare...........stare there points RAINBOWS!!!!!!!!!`
`00:53.27`	`wobin`	`taste the fruit flavours?`
`00:54.13`	`art3mis`	`no thanks pervert`
`00:57.30`	`Tain`	`Taste the rainbow.`
`00:58.39`	`wobin`	`bah, You're talking about deviant tattooed bears who use their overwhelming personalities to change people 'for the better', and you're dissing me? =P`
`00:59.01`	`Tain`	`Sounds reasonable.`
`00:59.05`	`art3mis`	`hah`
`01:00.21`	`art3mis`	`i still remember the start of the strawberry shortcake movei song`
`01:00.49`	`art3mis`	`umm berry umm berry umm berry umm berry are you berry berry this are you berry berry that are you ebrry berry silly are you berry berry fat`
`01:01.22`	`art3mis`	`when she taught it to the crows to drive the peculair purple pieman of porcupine peak insane`
`01:01.41`	`[dRaCo]`	`wtf. stop drinking.`
`01:02.08`	`art3mis`	`no!`
`01:02.13`	`art3mis`	`you need to drink more`
`01:02.18`	`art3mis`	`slacker`
`01:03.25`	`Tain`	`Magic and mystery are part of their history. Along with the secret of gummiberry juice.`
`01:03.38`	`art3mis`	`hahaha`
`01:04.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`whatever you're drinking, i demand you share.`
`01:04.26`	`Amadeo`	`duh`
`01:04.29`	`Amadeo`	`Gummiberry Juice`
`01:04.33`	`art3mis`	`its called being a kid in the late 70's early 80s`
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`01:07.54`	`art3mis`	`http://www.thevirtualbar.com/cgi-bin/dspdrink?RecNo=1288&incAccess=0`
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`01:08.57`	`wobin`	`It's true`
`01:09.09`	`wobin`	`I once made gummibear juice`
`01:09.19`	`wobin`	`it involved lots of gummibears and vodka`
`01:09.40`	`art3mis`	`the link is for the gummiberri juice drink ;P`
`01:10.04`	`art3mis`	`gummibearjuice however is made with any clear alcohol and handfuls of gummibears`
`01:10.14`	`wobin`	`Aye`
`01:10.17`	`wobin`	`That's the stuff`
`01:10.34`	`wobin`	`They swell up to stupid sizes`
`01:18.25`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`quick question: is there any mod that can show me stats in fubar? like something that I can choose to show? say I want to see armor there, or dodge, or attack power, etc`
`01:26.13`	`art3mis`	`itembonuses is prolly the closest i can think of`
`01:26.30`	`art3mis`	`itll show yer stats ad whatever bopnus you have related to your class`
`01:29.40`	`wobin`	`mmm`
`01:29.42`	`wobin`	`hacky`
`01:30.01`	`wobin`	`I'm adding 1 to the note poi-id so I don't cover up existing notes =P`
`01:36.20`	`nymbia`	`has parser 1.1 been getting messed with?`
`01:36.42`	`Xuerian`	`Rophy or ck would know.`
`01:37.50`	`nymbia`	`looks like`
`01:40.45`	`nymbia`	`.amountResist is a string now..`
`01:41.49`	`Tain`	`So Audioslave split up, and there's rumors of Rage Against the Machine reforming with Zack de la Rocha`
`01:41.51`	`nymbia`	`not a big fan of my mods exploding when i havent touched em in a month >.<`
`01:41.55`	`nymbia`	`ah well`
`01:43.35`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Tain, cool. I need 20 more version so Killing in the Name`
`01:43.51`	`Tain`	`I despise Rage Against the machine.`
`01:44.42`	`art3mis`	`http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/mango/`
`01:46.02`	`vhaarr`	`How can you despise someone for uttering their political standpoint?`
`01:46.14`	`vhaarr`	`Or is it just the music? :)`
`01:46.28`	`Tain`	`It's de la Rocha's vocals.`
`01:46.49`	`Tain`	`Their political viewpoint is a whole other issue of hypocracy.`
`01:47.38`	`wobin`	`bah`
`01:47.44`	`wobin`	`How come __newindex isn't called on a table.insert?`
`01:47.52`	`pastamancer`	`ooh`
`01:48.11`	`Tain`	`Sure is easy for them to complain about things to people who have to walk past their limos and custom tourbusses to get into a show they pay top dollar for, and past dozens of merchandise stands`
`01:48.34`	`Tain`	`But you keep on preaching fight the power, Zack!`
`01:48.54`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`01:53.37`	`Hjalte`	`ckknight, what needs to be done for the outlands bosses to display loot in cartographer?`
`01:55.47`	`nymbia`	`Hjalte: there needs to be an entry for them in both babble and pt3`
`01:56.16`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`that was a long trip :S`
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`02:02.02`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`rage did reform`
`02:02.15`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`going to be in concert outside LA`
`02:04.10`	`Gngsk`	`can anyone give me directions to the chess event in karazhan? just killed the shade of aran clearing some etherreal thieves.`
`02:05.18`	`vhaarr`	`Gngsk: Go back out the door and make a left.`
`02:05.18`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`zerg king and win`
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`02:10.07`	`Gngsk`	`ok, so how do I get there from aran's door?`
`02:11.32`	`wobin`	`=\`
`02:11.48`	`Sapiens`	`Hmm.`
`02:11.48`	`wobin`	`I forgot that 'if #Queue then' isn't going to do what I want =P`
`02:11.56`	`nymbia`	`turn left and go up a lot`
`02:12.09`	`Gngsk`	`k`
`02:12.32`	`Arilaw`	`I apparently suck at running the right batchfile in !!!StandaloneLibraries.`
`02:13.16`	`nymbia`	`Gngsk: if you hit netherspite, you've gone too far`
`02:14.06`	`Arilaw`	`Running install.bat just generates errors.`
`02:14.14`	`Arilaw`	`Good lord I must be doing something really inane here.`
`02:14.24`	`kergoth`	`hmm, i wonder if this 'piston' tool can support nesting`
`02:15.21`	`kergoth`	`hmmmm.. it should`
`02:18.09`	`wobin`	`aw no ck`
`02:18.54`	`Arilaw`	`For some reason it can't find makefilelist.bat?`
`02:18.58`	`Arilaw`	`The hell, it's right there.`
`02:20.46`	`PProvost`	`Anyone using Baggins_ClosetGnome? I seem unable to create a Category that uses it.`
`02:21.10`	`PProvost`	`It appears that "AND CLosetGnome None" rule works, but "AND ClosetGnome Any" doesn't.`
`02:21.50`	`PProvost`	`Arilaw, what are you trying to do?`
`02:22.16`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r28225 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua:`
`02:22.16`	`CIA-17`	`MobMitigation:`
`02:22.16`	`CIA-17`	`- Maybe a fix for weird changes to Parser-1.1. Full resists arent showing up at all.`
`02:22.20`	`Arilaw`	`PProvost: Trying to make !!!StandaloneLibraries make its directories with the provided batch files.`
`02:22.34`	`PProvost`	`Are you using WAU?`
`02:22.38`	`Arilaw`	`Yes.`
`02:22.44`	`PProvost`	`1.7b4?`
`02:22.46`	`Arilaw`	`Yes.`
`02:22.59`	`PProvost`	`Just pick !!!StandaloneLibraries in WAU and press F10`
`02:23.04`	`PProvost`	`It will do it all for you`
`02:23.15`	`Arilaw`	`It used to but doesn't seem to since ckknight updated it with Parser-3.0`
`02:23.33`	`PProvost`	`That is because he doesn't know how to update SAL properly. :)`
`02:23.39`	`PProvost`	`I should get Kael to lock it down...`
`02:23.41`	`PProvost`	`One sec.`
`02:23.46`	`Arilaw`	`It makes the !!!StandaloneLibraries directory but none of the other actual dependency folders.`
`02:23.57`	`PProvost`	`I'll fix it, but you will have to wait until the next Files push from the daemon.`
`02:24.07`	`Arilaw`	`That's not a problem.`
`02:24.31`	`Arilaw`	`I was trying to pester him about updating it again since last night but unless you actually uninstall and then try to reinstall the addon it's hard to tell anything is broken.`
`02:26.18`	`PProvost`	`Explain... I'm not seeing anything wrong.`
`02:26.20`	`PProvost`	`How do I repro?`
`02:27.48`	`Arilaw`	`Select only StandaloneLibs and uninstall it.`
`02:28.03`	`Arilaw`	`It should delete all of the other lib folders too.`
`02:28.06`	`PProvost`	`In WAU?`
`02:28.07`	`Arilaw`	`Yeah.`
`02:28.15`	`PProvost`	`I'm not sure uninstall works on SAL... :)`
`02:28.48`	`Arilaw`	`When I did it last night, since it was considered a package and had the other libs folders listed as part of that package, it removed everything related to it`
`02:29.01`	`PProvost`	`Is that the bug? Or is the bug when you reselect SAL and reinstall it?`
`02:29.47`	`Arilaw`	`When you install SAL "fresh"`
`02:29.47`	`PProvost`	`Hokay... lemme try it.`
`02:29.47`	`Amadeo`	`I'm stuck at 265 Blacksmithing :(`
`02:30.05`	`Amadeo`	`the only things I can make for skill are too complex/expensive`
`02:30.49`	`PProvost`	`It looks like uninstall of SAL works... about to reinstall...`
`02:30.49`	`Arilaw`	`Amadeo: You could get RecipeRadar (or the Ace equivalent if there is one) and see which recipes you're missing.`
`02:30.49`	`Amadeo`	`How's that work?`
`02:31.23`	`Amadeo`	`just lists them?`
`02:31.23`	`Arilaw`	`Amadeo: Shows all of the buyable recipes of a particular tradeskill you don't have and where you can purchase them.`
`02:31.23`	`Arilaw`	`Marks the vendor on your map etc.`
`02:31.23`	`Amadeo`	`oh, that's pretty damn nice`
`02:31.23`	`PProvost`	`Nice`
`02:31.23`	`Amadeo`	`Anyone know of an Ace equiv?`
`02:31.27`	`Amadeo`	`WAU would be easier :)`
`02:31.28`	`kergoth`	`yeah it works well. not something i like to elave loaded all the time, since its pretty heavy, but its nice when you need it`
`02:31.34`	`kergoth`	`s/elave/leave/`
`02:31.36`	`Arilaw`	`It's one of the few non-Ace addons I still run.`
`02:31.39`	`PProvost`	`Arilaw, so I reselected SAL and ran it. Is there error in WAU or does it not install something?`
`02:31.39`	`Amadeo`	`I see`
`02:31.58`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: I like Talented just for the fact that the frame opens faster for me than Blizzards :P`
`02:32.07`	`Arilaw`	`PProvost: It shows that it installs SAL but if you check your addons directory it has ONLY the SAL folder, none of the other lib folders are created as part of the package.`
`02:32.26`	`PProvost`	`ahh interesting`
`02:32.28`	`PProvost`	`You are right.`
`02:32.35`	`PProvost`	`Thanks. Let me look into it.`
`02:32.44`	`Arilaw`	`\o/`
`02:32.48`	`Arilaw`	`I'm not crazy, hooray!`
`02:32.55`	`PProvost`	`You say this started when Parser-3.0 went in there?`
`02:33.09`	`PProvost`	`Can we move this over to #wau?`
`02:33.13`	`Arilaw`	`Oh, sure.`
`02:33.23`	`kergoth`	`Amadeo, hehe, thats nice too`
`02:33.23`	`Amadeo`	`Wow, RecipeRadar is 4MB`
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`02:34.04`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: You can't do specs for classes you're not playing, right?`
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`02:37.02`	`kergoth`	`Amadeo, yea, it doesnt store the talent trees and talent tooltips in sv/ram, to save resources`
`02:37.09`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r28226 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua:`
`02:37.09`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian:`
`02:37.09`	`CIA-17`	`- crappy drycoded attempt at adding warnings for he's weakened state, probably not accurate`
`02:37.09`	`CIA-17`	`- added sacrifice bar`
`02:37.18`	`kergoth`	`of all the trees i mean`
`02:37.23`	`kergoth`	`bleh, headache`
`02:37.33`	`Amadeo`	`I see`
`02:37.35`	`kergoth`	`with my job, i think i need to start carrying excedrin tension headache on me at all times`
`02:37.51`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: Most Excedrin's have the same ingredients!`
`02:38.34`	`kergoth`	`wouldnt surprise me`
`02:38.45`	`kergoth`	`hrm`
`02:38.55`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r28227 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian: localization for the bar >.<`
`02:39.34`	`Tain`	`They're all just aspirin or ibuprofen plus caffeine.`
`02:40.08`	`Xuerian`	`Pain pills + coffee! Win!`
`02:40.27`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`02:42.03`	Funkeh`	`fuckign hell`
`02:42.07`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r28228 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian: another bugfix`
`02:42.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Xuerian: pain pills + coffee + alcohol = greater win! :D`
`02:42.11`	`Xuerian`	`rofl.`
`02:42.14`	Funkeh`	`gonna retire to a stargate episode way too tired`
`02:42.31`	`Amadeo`	`Recipe Radar only works if you're in the area of the recipe?`
`02:42.42`	`kergoth`	`Amadeo, no, it has multiple views`
`02:42.53`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i ought to d/l and watch the sg:a episodes i've missed.`
`02:43.35`	`kergoth`	`there is a diff between exedrin tension headache and regular excedrin, tension headache has no aspirin in addition to that other active ingredient and caffeine, regular does`
`02:45.48`	`Amadeo`	`I just got a bunch of "uncached recipe"`
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`02:48.34`	`kergoth`	`Amadeo, then your client hasnt seen them. click on them to query the server, with the usual caveats.`
`02:48.35`	`Amadeo`	`oh I see`
`02:48.36`	`Amadeo`	`that's how it works`
`02:48.36`	`CIA-17`	`03rophy * r28229 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua:`
`02:48.36`	`CIA-17`	`ParserLib-1.1:`
`02:48.36`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed trailers weren't in numeric form.`
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`03:00.03`	`rubik`	`hmm.. questsfu doesn't refresh sticky tooltip on zone change if "show only current area" is checked.. at least not when walking between shattrath city/terokkar forest`
`03:01.05`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r28230 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (7 files in 6 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: loot update, svn template added`
`03:01.17`	`Arilaw`	`Oh hotness!`
`03:01.23`	`Arilaw`	`WoW Model Viewer has like... real development.`
`03:01.25`	`Arilaw`	`Finally.`
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`03:01.51`	`Xuerian`	`linkey.`
`03:02.00`	`Arilaw`	`http://www.wowmodelviewer.org/index.php`
`03:04.18`	Funkeh`	`svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk' svn: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk': could not connect to server (http://svn.wowace.com)`
`03:04.39`	Funkeh`	`Kaelten-Laptop ? :P`
`03:05.15`	`CIA-17`	`03nargiddley * r28231 10oRA2/Libs/: oRA2: Fixed Waterfall external dev.wowace -> svn.wowace`
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`03:09.16`	`mahiro`	`hi`
`03:09.53`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`03:09.54`	`kergoth`	`svn: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary': could not connect to server (http://svn.wowace.com)`
`03:09.55`	`kergoth`	`:(`
`03:10.05`	`kergoth`	Funkeh`, heh :)
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`03:10.47`	Funkeh`	`:p`
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`03:11.41`	`mahiro`	`can someone tell me what to look for when i want to make a frame where i can select the party members?`
`03:12.15`	`Xuerian`	`If you mean select as in target`
`03:12.27`	`Xuerian`	`You might want to look at a 2.0 unitframes mod, because secure frames will be involved`
`03:13.10`	`mahiro`	`hm whats a good mod to look for it?`
`03:13.50`	`Xuerian`	`pick any unitframe mod that works in 2.0`
`03:14.13`	`mahiro`	`or can i find somewhere details about secure frames? wow forum or so?`
`03:15.45`	`Xuerian`	`I think there's a post about secure headers on the ui forum, by iriel.`
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`03:17.44`	`pastamancer`	`don't look at Grid though, it's wierd!`
`03:17.49`	`kergoth`	`<3 grid`
`03:17.52`	`pastamancer`	`s/wierd/weirt/`
`03:17.53`	`kergoth`	`yay for weird!`
`03:17.56`	`Xuerian`	`It'll bend your miiiiinnnnddd`
`03:17.56`	`pastamancer`	`d`
`03:17.59`	`pastamancer`	`haha`
`03:18.05`	`kergoth`	`my mind was already bent`
`03:18.07`	`kergoth`	`so no worries`
`03:18.21`	`Xuerian`	`Mind isn't bent. It's twisted`
`03:18.27`	`kergoth`	`christ man`
`03:18.40`	`kergoth`	`my addon set workflow is more intricate than ones i've seen implemented in corporations for development`
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`03:18.57`	`kergoth`	`more resume fodder re my configuration management skills though`
`03:18.59`	`kergoth`	`cant argue with that`
`03:19.01`	`kergoth`	`:P`
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`03:19.36`	`Tain`	`Oh come on, that's not saying much. I've seen some pretty piss poor workflows in corporate development that are responsible for multi-billion dollar corporations. :)`
`03:19.46`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`03:19.48`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`03:19.48`	`pastamancer`	`heh`
`03:20.16`	`kergoth`	`well, i've seen good and bad ones, and this is both smoother and more complex than most of those`
`03:20.21`	`kergoth`	`but its the nature of the beast`
`03:20.29`	`kergoth`	`this many vendor sources is rarely dealt with`
`03:21.43`	`Tain`	`I worked for Fidelity Investments for eight years. I weep for my 401k now that I've seen how things work internally.`
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`03:23.29`	`Nirek`	`Shade of Aran is annoying.`
`03:24.23`	`kergoth`	`Tain, hahah`
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`03:24.33`	`kergoth`	`it makes me sad how many companies dont even use an scm tool`
`03:24.40`	`kergoth`	`zips thrown around make kergoth cry`
`03:25.27`	`kergoth`	`meh, i should just rewrite piston`
`03:25.32`	`kergoth`	`its not sufficiently flexible`
`03:25.51`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`03:26.00`	`Tain`	`I supported the infrastructure, there were somewhere between 80-90 internally developed apps, most of them Powerbuilder and VB. A tiny amount of them had any scm at all. AT ALL.`
`03:26.34`	`kergoth`	`ugh`
`03:27.09`	`kergoth`	`argh, i'm definately gonna have to do a rewrite of this`
`03:27.15`	`kergoth`	`thankfully its not exactly rocket science, but still`
`03:27.19`	`pastamancer`	`~comfort kergoth`
`03:27.59`	`purl`	`There, there, kergoth. It's OK. I'm here for you.`
`03:27.59`	`pastamancer`	`rocket surgery?`
`03:28.00`	`Tain`	`I personally witnessed a new dev go to his manager with a bug he found in one of the apps, one that was used to determine prices for funds that would be released to the federal government each day. The manager buried it because it would have been his ass.`
`03:28.00`	`kergoth`	`Tain, damn`
`03:28.01`	`Tain`	`It was a rounding error, I remember now.`
`03:28.13`	`kergoth`	`with 'svn log -v --xml' this shouldnt be too horrible`
`03:28.37`	`kenlyric\|home`	`that's why I don't ever think I could work for a for-profit again.`
`03:29.06`	`pastamancer`	`I can't do for-profit again because I like my hours and dresscode`
`03:29.35`	`Xuerian`	`What do you do, then? :p`
`03:30.03`	`Tain`	`I do like my current company. Very relaxed dresscode, and people aren't completely stressed out all the time.`
`03:30.16`	`kergoth`	`i kinda miss working for TI`
`03:30.26`	`kergoth`	`there was some bs, but mostly it was relaxed with a good work environment`
`03:30.30`	`kergoth`	`real sunlight and plants!`
`03:30.31`	`kergoth`	`light!`
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`03:31.03`	`Tain`	`Hell a guy on my team accidentally ran something that caused four prod servers to have to be rebuilt entirely from backups and the response was basically, "Ah damn that sucks, ah well let's get to it."`
`03:31.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`light is overrated, really`
`03:32.30`	`Tain`	`hehe I still think its funny that I used to live about a mile from TI in Attleboro, MA. Every time I drove by I'd have fond thoughts of calculators and my TI 99/4a`
`03:32.50`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I work at a university.`
`03:33.18`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I recently went to a job interview for a corporation, and in the middle of the interview I could feel my soul getting sucked out through my eyeballs`
`03:33.47`	`Tain`	`Yeah well my soul doesn't pay the bills.`
`03:34.46`	`Silviu-`	`~seen CIA-17`
`04:51.02`	`purl`	`cia-17 is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 276 messages. Is idling for 1h 45m 47s, last said: '03ckknight * r28224 10BabbleLib/: BabbleLib - removed. See tags'.`
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`04:51.37`	`PProvost`	`Kaelten-Laptop, you here?`
`04:51.37`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`kinda`
`04:51.37`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`sup?`
`04:51.37`	`PProvost`	`Pinged you on gtalk...`
`04:51.38`	`PProvost`	`New file zipper is broken.`
`04:51.38`	`PProvost`	`Doesn't include the empty dirs in SAL in the ZIP file`
`04:51.38`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm?`
`04:51.38`	`PProvost`	`The zip doesn't have the empty dirs.`
`04:51.39`	`PProvost`	`So SAL is broken.`
`04:51.39`	`PProvost`	`For WAU and for manual installation.`
`04:51.39`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ah`
`04:51.40`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I think thats the way its indexed`
`04:51.40`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`the quickest response would be to put a dummy txt file in each of the folders`
`04:51.40`	`CIA-17`	`03zuno * r28232 10UnitActionBars/App.lua:`
`04:51.40`	`CIA-17`	`UnitActionBars:`
`04:51.41`	`CIA-17`	`- Commented some debug statements that broke stuff trying to print tables :\`
`04:51.41`	`Silviu-`	`Kaelten-Laptop also svn public is down i guess :P`
`04:52.16`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ren chap hosts the public svn`
`04:52.17`	`CIA-17`	`03zuno * r28233 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:`
`04:52.17`	`CIA-17`	`UnitActionBars:`
`04:52.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Revision update`
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`04:58.43`	`PProvost`	`Kaelten-Laptop, that doesn't make sense. The old one didn't do that.`
`04:58.43`	`PProvost`	`Empty directories are completly legitimate.`
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`04:58.56`	`wobin`	`Oh =\`
`04:58.56`	`wobin`	`You should sautee over a low heat`
`04:58.56`	`Xuerian`	`This was most definitely high heat x.x`
`04:58.57`	`wobin`	`frying outright destroys the flavour`
`04:58.57`	`Xuerian`	`I'm a bad chef =(`
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`05:00.47`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`hrm`
`05:00.48`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`hrm, what do you do when a tracert to blizzard.com gives one hop that has massive packetloss and a very high ping`
`05:00.48`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`but is outside your immediate ISP?`
`05:00.49`	`Xuerian`	`Get a new isp.`
`05:00.49`	`anenigma`	`You make me an omelette`
`05:00.49`	`Xuerian`	`Oh. Misread :P`
`05:00.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`mail bombs`
`05:00.50`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`192.205.33.33`
`05:00.50`	`Aens\|Superiority`	`and results in 10k+ ping in game`
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`05:00.58`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28234 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer - rearranged how the goto menu looks`
`05:00.58`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28235 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer - another fix to the goto menu`
`05:00.58`	`PProvost`	`Don't blame me for this...`
`05:00.59`	`ckknight`	`fun way to crash the game: SetMapZoom(4)`
`05:00.59`	`wobin`	`The fourth continent?`
`05:00.59`	`ckknight`	`oh, nvm, didn't actually crash`
`05:00.59`	`ckknight`	`just froze for a few seconds`
`05:00.59`	`wobin`	`yeah, I've done that before without problem =)`
`05:01.00`	`Silviu-`	wobin, btw /way to a party member won`t work at me :)
`05:01.00`	`Silviu-`	`Always say waypoint hit`
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`05:01.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`anyone use FuBar_tcgTradeskills?`
`05:01.01`	`wobin`	`Silviu-: hm`
`05:01.02`	`wobin`	`I'll try fixing that`
`05:01.33`	`wobin`	`Should I break Cart_WP out of the main Cart package?`
`05:01.34`	`Silviu-`	`no :P`
`05:01.34`	`PProvost`	`One more time... this is not my fault... blame Kael's new script.`
`05:01.34`	`CIA-17`	`03pprovost * r28236 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (35 files in 35 dirs): !!!StandaloneLibraries: Added placeholder.txt to each directory to make sure it shows up in the zip file.`
`05:01.34`	`wobin`	`~blame Kael's new script`
`05:02.08`	`purl`	`ACTION blames Kael's new script (and Canada) for all the evil in the world`
`05:02.08`	`Silviu-`	`And tonight corpseway did not work eighter strange :)`
`05:02.08`	`PProvost`	`DId corpseway disappear?`
`05:02.08`	`wobin`	`It's 'CorpsePoint' now =)`
`05:02.08`	`wobin`	`I'm adding a toglge`
`05:02.09`	`wobin`	`toggle evne`
`05:02.09`	`wobin`	`so it defaults to off`
`05:02.09`	`PProvost`	`Don't see either one in WAU/files.`
`05:02.09`	`wobin`	`It's built into Cart_WP`
`05:02.09`	`rubik`	`and can someone pretty please add the 'x' icon back to waypoint? it was very useful`
`05:02.10`	`Silviu-`	`rubik blame wobin :P`
`05:02.10`	`rubik`	`haha`
`05:02.10`	`PProvost`	`Ahhh... I figred it went there.`
`05:02.11`	`wobin`	`Let me make final checks before commiting that`
`05:02.11`	`wobin`	`Blame Silvu for the delays =P`
`05:02.11`	`Silviu-`	`:(`
`05:02.11`	`PProvost`	`Is there an easy way to add a note in cart for "where I'm standing right now"?`
`05:02.11`	`PProvost`	`I couldn't seem to find it.`
`05:02.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wobin, embrace and extend your style now?`
`05:02.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i see how it is`
`05:02.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`durcyn: ping`
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`05:53.17`	`ckknight`	`brb`
`05:53.18`	`wobin`	`Silviu-: Were they on another continent at the time?`
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`05:53.18`	`wobin`	`ie, you were in outlands and they werne't?`
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`05:53.18`	`Silviu-`	`wobin nop`
`05:53.18`	`Silviu-`	`In same continent`
`05:56.04`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28237 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - added :IsCity("zone")`
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`05:56.05`	`Silviu-`	wobin i just tryed again now we both are in "Eastern Kinngdom`s" and /way p-Bort
`05:56.05`	`Silviu-`	`waypoint hit, and disapear :)`
`05:56.05`	`wobin`	`k`
`05:56.06`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28238 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer - mess with goto menu some more.`
`05:56.07`	`Silviu-`	`wobin, question does he need to have latest vers of cart ?`
`05:56.07`	`wobin`	`No`
`05:56.07`	`Silviu-`	`Ok`
`05:56.09`	`Thorgard`	`Anyone know of a decent lightweight mod that lets you view your bank while on the road?`
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`05:56.13`	`Silviu-`	`~seen renchap`
`06:17.07`	`purl`	`renchap <n=renchap@jaina.renchap.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 19h 21m 19s ago, saying: 'full brd with 2 lvl 70 and a 54 takes us 3 hours'.`
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`06:17.08`	Funkeh`	`Wobin`
`06:17.08`	Funkeh`	`'It's a part of the Cartographer Package, atm, although, should I just split it out?' please do`
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`06:18.00`	`xyu`	`Thorgard: have you tried OneView`
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`06:18.03`	`Thorgard`	`xyu, yeah, but I don't want OneBag. ;P`
`06:18.04`	`xyu`	`I had a bug last week w/ carto waypoints. I haven't been able to reproduce it recently so maybe its fixed. It was when i reached my location the waypoint arrow would suddenly turn into like 3 and a half arrows and constantly rotate off of the arrow hitbox`
`06:18.04`	`wobin`	`xyu: I've definitely fixed a whole lot of stuff in the last week`
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`06:18.05`	`xyu`	`ok ^_^`
`06:18.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thorgard: sanity2?`
`06:18.06`	`Thorgard`	`NightHawkTheSane, is that a whole bag-mod thing?`
`06:18.06`	`ckknight`	`wtf?`
`06:18.07`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`06:18.07`	`kergoth`	`sanity2 isnt a bag mod persay, but it can display whats in your bags.. it shows you what you have.. in bags, bank, mailbox, or alts bags, bank, mailbox, and can search for stuff`
`06:18.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thorgard: not really. it lets you view your inventory/bank of yourself and alts from anywhere, but it's not really designed as a bag replacement`
`06:18.07`	`kergoth`	`hehe, someone did a seen on cia?`
`06:18.08`	Funkeh`	`yeah about 1hour ago`
`06:18.08`	`Xuerian`	`Purl seems to be catching up.`
`06:18.17`	`xyu`	`-_-`
`06:18.17`	`Silviu-`	`Lol, yes me long time ago`
`06:18.17`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`06:18.18`	`Thorgard`	`Ah.`
`06:18.18`	Funkeh`	`anyway`
`06:18.18`	Funkeh`	`nn folks`
`06:18.18`	`Silviu-`	`purl is laggy ? ;)`
`06:18.19`	`Thorgard`	`Will have to check it out.`
`06:18.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thorgard: i use sanity alongside baggins, it's really nice for searching for specific things in your bank, or on alts, etc`
`06:18.23`	`Thorgard`	`Cool. Thanks.`
`06:18.24`	`PProvost`	`So ckknight I keep asking about how to add a note in cartographer for "where I'm standing now", is there a way to do it w/out clicking on the map?`
`06:18.25`	`ckknight`	`not to my knowledge`
`06:19.04`	`PProvost`	`Would be nice. /cartnotes add <name> <descript> <loc>`
`06:19.04`	`PProvost`	`Or something like that.`
`06:19.04`	`PProvost`	`Helpful when you get the loc from someone else and just want to whack it in there.`
`06:19.05`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:19.05`	`PProvost`	`Whatever`
`06:19.06`	`CIA-17`	`03mok * r28239 10GemList/GemList.lua:`
`06:19.06`	`CIA-17`	`GemList:`
`06:19.06`	`CIA-17`	`- more nil-checks -.-`
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`06:20.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
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`06:20.26`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28240 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - added Cartographer:GetCurrentVelocity() which returns speed in yards, direction in radians`
`06:20.26`	`ckknight`	`wobin: play with that`
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`06:20.28`	`wobin`	`ckknight: Woo, ta`
`06:20.30`	`ckknight`	`east is 0, north is pi/2, west is ± pi, south is -pi/2`
`06:20.31`	`Xuerian`	`nn o/`
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`06:20.53`	`wobin`	`hm`
`06:20.53`	`wobin`	`Is it the same with the current waypoint direction finding?`
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`06:20.53`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r28241 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer_Notes: Added in a GetRadius handler option.\n Removed majority of obsolete waypoint references.`
`06:20.54`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r28242 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (5 files): Cartographer_Waypoints: Fixed PArtyPoint, Added in mapicons, only the current waypoint will show on the minimap, but all 'cross' waypoints made will be shown on the main map.`
`06:20.54`	`wobin`	`Oh and corpsepoint is default off`
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`06:20.57`	`ToastTheif`	`./wave`
`06:20.58`	`art3mis`	`whow as asking about autobar and the color borders with cycircled?`
`06:20.58`	`art3mis`	`last night`
`06:20.58`	`art3mis`	`er not autobar bartender`
`06:20.59`	`art3mis`	`unless it got fixed last night if you select "gloss" itll show it at the top of each window`
`06:21.00`	`binder`	`How do you create your own mapnote with cartographer? I can't seem to get it :/`
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`06:21.03`	`wobin`	`ctrl-rightclick or something?`
`06:21.03`	`wobin`	`it says how in the list of options on the left`
`06:21.21`	`binder`	`I never learned to read I guess`
`06:21.21`	`wobin`	`or even /note x,y,name`
`06:21.22`	`wobin`	`or something similar`
`06:21.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`there needs to be a '/note foo'`
`06:21.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that places one at your current loc`
`06:21.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`with foo as the label`
`06:21.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`there's really no point to /note x y name`
`06:21.24`	`wobin`	`it's true`
`06:21.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because in order to get x and y, you gotta look at the map anyway`
`06:21.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and while you're mousing to find the coordinate, you may as well ctrl-rclick and do it there`
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`06:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r28243 10BigWigs/ (. Outland/Gruul.lua):`
`06:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Outland/Gruul:`
`06:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`- proper grow warnings`
`06:21.34`	`Prophy`	`anyone notice which mod breaks the PVP Tab Arena?? u can't see the listing of members...`
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`06:21.38`	`punter`	`In WowAceUpdater, what's the difference between "install/update with externals" and "install/update without externals"?`
`06:21.39`	`ckknight`	`one uses externals and one doesn't`
`06:21.39`	`ckknight`	`the one that doesn't expects you to use standalone libraries`
`06:21.39`	`ckknight`	`it can be faster sometimes`
`06:21.39`	`ckknight`	`but it's a more advanced process`
`06:21.58`	`punter`	`so which should I choose to be on the safe side?`
`06:21.59`	`punter`	`(I don't know what externals are)`
`06:21.59`	`punter`	`ckknight?`
`06:21.59`	`ckknight`	`safe side?`
`06:21.59`	`ckknight`	`they'll both work`
`06:21.59`	`punter`	`ok`
`06:21.59`	`CIA-17`	`03benumbed * r28244 10Epeen/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Epeen - Attempt to fix (hopefully) stats collection and auto kos adding`
`06:21.59`	`punter`	`Another problem - since playing around with a bunch of addons and their menus, I can't get OneBag to work anymore. I've reinstalled that (and all other addons) many times, I have OneBag on "enabled", but it's like it doesn't exist on my system (doesn't work). What can I do to get it up & running again?`
`06:22.00`	`wobin`	`safe side, with externals`
`06:22.00`	`punter`	`(PS I don't have any other bag-related addon)`
`06:22.00`	`binder`	`I still use acui_mybag/mybank b/c I don't care for the way onview handles the keyring`
`06:22.00`	`punter`	`Any idea about my particular problem?`
`06:22.00`	`punter`	`Is there like a way to "reset" an addon, so that whatever options you've selected, go away?`
`06:22.01`	`binder`	`see if there's an option to replace default bags`
`06:22.01`	`punter`	`Like is there a settings directory I can empty or sthng like that?`
`06:22.01`	`binder`	`like do /onview`
`06:22.01`	`punter`	`ok`
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`06:22.02`	`punter`	`. /onview isn't recognized as a command`
`06:22.03`	`binder`	`umm /ov?`
`06:22.03`	`binder`	`or /one`
`06:22.03`	`binder`	`or /onebag`
`06:22.03`	`binder`	`or /onebank or something like that`
`06:22.03`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r28245 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua:`
`06:22.04`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar:`
`06:22.04`	`CIA-17`	`- Attempt to fix Infernal warning.`
`06:22.04`	`punter`	`. /ob is`
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`06:22.04`	`trh`	`i don't know if anyone uses it, but MiniButt-1.0 is broken, at least if checked out as external the local minor = .... doesn't contain the revision number and the call to AceLibraries IsNewLibrary(major, minor) fails due to minor getting nil - but i don't have a clue about correct revision tags for svn :)`
`06:22.05`	`punter`	`works! Thanks binder! I'm such a happy belf now!`
`06:22.05`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28246 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix nil bug`
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`06:30.34`	`Mobeater`	`anyone running wow on gentoo?...with wine`
`06:30.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i try running everything with wine. i find a little intoxication makes the computing experience much nicer`
`06:31.07`	`Mobeater`	`lol`
`06:31.24`	`Mobeater`	`nice, however, then basic question was on gentoo :)`
`06:31.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`;)`
`06:31.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I believe several people here do run WoW on various flavors of *nix, cant say if any of em use gentoo, though`
`06:31.57`	`Mobeater`	`I can log in and everything, but Frame rates are retarded`
`06:32.16`	`Mobeater`	`just wonderin what version of wine they are using :)`
`06:32.33`	`Mobeater`	`the latest is ghey and will not let me input new registry keys :/`
`06:33.07`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:\`
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`06:33.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i actually used to compile from cvs`
`06:33.35`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Sorry i can't really help, i'm not on linux, so`
`06:33.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but then i tried crossover when they did the 6.0 trial`
`06:33.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and it's friggin beautiful`
`06:33.47`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I'm almost ashamed to admit it`
`06:33.48`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, me too, but that's not necessary any more since WoW runs unpatched on WINE now.`
`06:33.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but I love it`
`06:34.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`they have nice setup scripts for the Config.wtf and everything`
`06:35.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`just download the trial and yank the values from those, and you're probably pretty well-off`
`06:35.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's a good starting point, at least`
`06:35.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`before you try any wine finagling`
`06:40.50`	`ggilbert`	`oh?`
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`06:44.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, it's "officially supported" now`
`06:44.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`they have a custom install script for it and all`
`06:45.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it works beautifully`
`06:51.28`	`CIA-17`	`03nargiddley * r28247 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Added :IsRegistered(id) and :IsOpen(id)`
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`08:03.40`	`CIA-17`	`03nargiddley * r28248 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Rearrange config to bring layout options that effect each other together`
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`08:03.41`	`trh`	`ckknight: there?`
`08:03.42`	`ckknight`	`I have never left you, child`
`08:03.42`	`trh`	`ckknight: fine :) - a have a feature request for dewdrop - make it possible to let it autohook to the left mousebutton :)`
`08:03.42`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r28249 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix goto menu`
`08:03.42`	`nymbia`	`trh: it's pretty easy`
`08:03.42`	`trh`	`nymbia: i know its only a dontHook, true and a little wrapper function, but it would be nicer the other way :)`
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`08:03.44`	`jfarwell`	`Could anyone help me with a couple command-line SVN questions?`
`08:03.44`	`jfarwell`	`how do I check out an addon without externals? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Checking_out_without_externals isn't terribly useful :(`
`08:03.45`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r28250 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Add TradeskillResultMatsReverse`
`08:03.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`--ignore-externals`
`08:03.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`add to the end of what you would normaly use`
`08:03.45`	`jfarwell`	`ah cool`
`08:04.28`	`jfarwell`	`also, once I have edited a file that belongs to another author, what command would I run to generate a patch that I could email to them?`
`08:04.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`try "svn help"`
`08:04.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`also "man patch"`
`08:04.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres an svn diff`
`08:04.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`but the windows commandline install does come with a windows help file thingy somewhere`
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`08:04.33`	`bver_`	`Is it possible to macro abilities depending on what buffs you have? Like i got this meta gem that gives instant spell cast, and id like to use a soulfire every time i get the buff.`
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`08:04.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
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`08:04.35`	`Thrae`	`I'd be interested to see if this macro could work -- /cast Spell1; /stopcasting; /cast Spell2`
`08:04.35`	`wobin`	`only`
`08:04.35`	`wobin`	`if the first spell does not trigger the gcd`
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`08:04.36`	`trh`	`i really miss a: "zone:outlands/oldlands" in the macro system of wow`
`08:04.36`	`Thrae`	`Ah right, the global cooldown is triggered when you start casting, not when you do cast`
`08:04.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`trh: wait till 2.1?`
`08:04.36`	`nymbia`	`[flyable] ftw`
`08:04.36`	`trh`	`NightHawkTheSane: will they add it? didn't read any patchnotes yet`
`08:04.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`what nymbia said`
`08:04.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`they're adding [flyable]`
`08:04.37`	`trh`	`ah.. nice :)`
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`08:04.38`	`kenlyric\|home`	`what would you do with [flyable]`
`08:04.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"/use [nomounted, flyable] Swift Blue Gryphon; [nomounted] Swift Zulian Tiger; /dismount [mounted]"`
`08:04.39`	`deltron`	`finally dung 70 heh`
`08:04.40`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ah, so that returns true if you can fly. Nice.`
`08:04.40`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I need to macro my bandages.`
`08:06.08`	`kenlyric\|home`	`Stupid blizzzard.. Alt-cast should work on bandages.`
`08:06.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`autobar? :P`
`08:06.08`	`ckknight`	`kenlyric\|home: 2.1.0`
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`08:06.09`	`kenlyric\|home`	`ckknight: you mean they finally fixed it?`
`08:06.09`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`08:06.09`	`ckknight`	`or so says the wise and kind Slouken`
`08:06.10`	`kenlyric\|home`	`nothing worse than bandaging the damn tank.`
`08:06.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i'm sure he was quite confused as well :P`
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`08:06.11`	`LLoydBates`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:07.28`	`Rycochet`	`i use GiveMeHealth to make my bandage and food macros ;-)`
`08:08.14`	`Rycochet`	`really would like to see sprocket updated though, then might do something through that`
`08:08.15`	`kenlyric\|home`	`stuff like that should just work.`
`08:08.35`	`kenlyric\|home`	`but they've been complete monkeys about self-casting.`
`08:08.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Rycochet: i'd pay good money to see a working version of sprocket`
`08:08.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`took them how many patches now to get it right?`
`08:09.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`kenlyric\|home: counting 2.1? that's uh... 14 major patches?`
`08:10.04`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, I'm talking about since they implemented self-casting... seems like it was 1.12`
`08:10.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`oh, hm.. yeah i think builtin selfcast showed up in 1.12`
`08:11.08`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I remember thinking I could throw away selfbuff, and then it just didn't work at all when I had friendly targets.`
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`09:22.11`	`purl`	`pprovost is currently on #wowi-lounge (8h 39m 20s) #norganna (8h 39m 20s) #wowace (8h 39m 20s). Has said a total of 46 messages. Is idling for 3h 3m 6s, last said: 'Cartographer Question #2: Is there an easy way to add an icon where the player is standing or is the mouse my only option?'.`
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`09:22.54`	`evl`	`How much AP would +5 weapon damage translate to in AP?`
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`09:22.57`	`neenee`	`Hm.`
`09:22.58`	`neenee`	`14 Attack Power = 1 Damage per Second`
`09:22.58`	`CIA-17`	`03solor * r28251 10Buffalo/Libs/: Buffalo: - removed acehook 2.0 from libs, dunno why was there in 1st place`
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`09:23.56`	`neenee`	`If the weapon-speed is 1, +5 weapon damage = 5dps, 14*5 = 70AP? So then you do 70AP/ speed of the weapon?`
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`09:23.57`	`neenee`	`Baggins is buggy?`
`09:23.57`	`neenee`	`I think you can report the bugs`
`09:23.57`	`Rycochet`	`i will once i finish reading the thread on the forums ;-)`
`09:23.58`	`Nargiddley`	`just go for it :D`
`09:23.58`	`Rycochet`	`oh, and the config is a pig`
`09:23.58`	`Rycochet`	`;-)`
`09:23.58`	`Nargiddley`	`category / bag config ?`
`09:23.58`	`Rycochet`	`only got one suggestion for it - page tabs`
`09:23.58`	`Rycochet`	`yeah`
`09:23.59`	`Nargiddley`	`well, those 2 config windows are basicly the reason i wrote waterfall`
`09:23.59`	`Rycochet`	`heh`
`09:23.59`	`neenee`	`Hm. I wonder how useful the GUI is to configure it, as the most 'difficult' but to configure, the categories/bags, is still dewdrop.`
`09:23.59`	`Nargiddley`	`which i got to 1.0 yesterday, now i have to write the new configs using it`
`09:24.00`	`Rycochet`	`i sort of like the way arkinventory does config, even if it's not as powerful`
`09:24.01`	`Rycochet`	`oh - the blizzard skin should have the bag title on the left - it seems to have it on the right (not sure if that'd be a bug or anything)`
`09:24.01`	`Adirelle`	`erm... that's not really "bugs"`
`09:24.02`	`Adirelle`	`it's not what you're expected, that's a bit different :)`
`09:24.02`	`Rycochet`	`why i'm not posting as a bug ;-)`
`09:24.02`	`Adirelle`	`but... you still can post it as feature request :)`
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`09:24.03`	`Rycochet`	`the bug i found was opening my mail, and the first item took the stack of 53 empties, then it wouldn't update until a /rl`
`09:24.04`	`Adirelle`	`i'm trying to add a Baggins-specific "new items" filter, but it seems I'll have to do it at source, in Sieve, not in Baggins`
`09:24.04`	`Nargiddley`	`a rule the matches new items ?`
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`09:24.06`	`Adirelle`	`yep`
`09:24.07`	`Adirelle`	`but I went the wrong way I thinl`
`09:24.07`	`Adirelle`	`-l+k`
`09:24.07`	`Nargiddley`	`that'll have to be done carefully to not kill peformance`
`09:24.08`	`Rycochet`	`wth layout:auto, you're not checking if there's the bottom-right toolbar frame, so i lose the bottom of the bag ;-)`
`09:24.08`	`Nargiddley`	`'Set Layout Bounds'`
`09:24.09`	`Rycochet`	`surely checking for the default bliz frames should come before doing something manually though?`
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`09:24.10`	`Nargiddley`	`its completely manual, way too many different things that could get in the way`
`09:24.10`	`Adirelle`	`yep`
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`09:24.36`	`punter`	`which is the simplest module that adds lvl next to quests in questlog? or if not sure about which the simplest is, which would be a simple one?`
`09:24.36`	`punter`	`(i don't want fubar)`
`09:24.36`	`Nargiddley`	`what is the 25% it doesnt do ?`
`09:24.36`	`ckknight`	`FuBar_QuestsFu`
`09:24.37`	`Rycochet`	`questloglevel ?`
`09:24.37`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`09:24.37`	`Rycochet`	`Nargiddley: tabs at the bottom of a window - so you can keep a single window but multiple layouts`
`09:24.37`	`Nargiddley`	`hm`
`09:24.38`	`punter`	`"questloglevel" isn't in the list provided by wowaceupdate... hmm... another 1?`
`09:24.38`	`Rycochet`	`i'd actually got that part done, together with the priority sorting - just no layout ;-)`
`09:24.38`	`Rycochet`	`don't think it's ac'd`
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`09:24.39`	`punter`	`questloglevel doesn't even exist on the site: http://www.google.com/custom?cx=015548249089169640250%3Ak4ikqyiacv8&q=questloglevel&sa=Search&cof=GFNT%3A%23000000%3BGALT%3A%23008000%3BCX%3AWowace%252Ecom%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BFORID%3A0%3BT%3A%23000000%3BALC%3A%230000CC%3BLC%3A%230000CC%3BGIMP%3A%23000000%3BBGC%3A%23f9edd0%3BAH%3Aleft&client=pub-7657809366052718`
`09:24.39`	`Rycochet`	`Nargiddley: context menu settings on a per-frame basis, rather than the manual editing of categories you've got - sort of like all the PT3 tree, plus the obvious other ones (named System.* Empty.* etc) - with a checkbox on/off for each`
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`09:24.40`	`punter`	`any1 knows an addon that will just display the lvl next to each quest?`
`09:24.41`	`Nargiddley`	`I aimed to make the category system as dynamic as possible, heavy config is the tradeoff`
`09:24.41`	`Rycochet`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3559 - apparently not updated though`
`09:24.41`	`Rycochet`	`Nargiddley: yeah - i wanted to make it idiotproof first, with a custom section at the bottom for advanced users`
`09:24.42`	`RLD_osx`	`not possible`
`09:24.42`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah i kinda aimed for a good enough default config, rest is up to users`
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`09:24.42`	`Rycochet`	`so ppl on the forum saying "i put my xxx set in xyz, but it's also in abc" would set xyz to a higher priority than abc, and also set xyz to be Exclusive`
`09:24.43`	`Rycochet`	`four menu choices - 1, new frame, 2 add pts:set.blah, 3. exclusive, 4. priority: 20`
`09:24.43`	`Rycochet`	`make that 5 if they also name the frame ;-)`
`09:24.43`	`RLD_osx`	`eql3 has lvls for the quests.`
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`09:24.45`	`Nargiddley`	`a priority for sections is planned`
`09:24.46`	`Rycochet`	`:-)`
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`09:26.27`	`Wobin`	`anyone good at maths?`
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`09:28.33`	`Rycochet`	`i'm not bad, though rusty ;-)`
`09:28.43`	`neenee`	`purl: Levelator perhaps`
`09:30.06`	`neenee`	`um`
`09:30.15`	`Wobin`	`Well, I have a direction and a distance to destination from the waypoint`
`09:30.18`	`neenee`	`punter: Levelator might be what you're looking for`
`09:30.24`	`Wobin`	`and a direction and a speed from the player`
`09:30.35`	`Wobin`	`How can I calculate time til arrival?`
`09:30.40`	`Wobin`	`(all direction in radians)`
`09:30.53`	`punter`	`neenee: thanks!`
`09:31.26`	`neenee`	`punter: It's not Ace though, but don't let that stop you :)`
`09:31.36`	`punter`	`neenee: ye :-)`
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`09:33.13`	`CIA-17`	`03mok * r28252 10GemList/locales/locale-koKR.lua:`
`09:33.13`	`CIA-17`	`GemList:`
`09:33.14`	`CIA-17`	`- update koKR locale`
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`09:35.55`	`Oridan`	`morning all`
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`09:37.10`	`Oridan`	`just a message for anyone currently working on WAU 1.4 beta9 - "view changelog" isnt working, it seems to download it, but doesnt display it`
`09:37.16`	`CIA-17`	`03mok * r28253 10GemList/locales/ (locale-deDE.lua locale-enUS.lua):`
`09:37.16`	`CIA-17`	`GemList:`
`09:37.16`	`CIA-17`	`- minor text changes`
`09:38.06`	`renchap`	`svn.wowace.com was down some hours ago`
`09:38.17`	`renchap`	`sorry, problem with the motherboard`
`09:38.21`	`renchap`	`all is fine now :)`
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`09:39.03`	`Oridan`	`its still not working, tried it yesterday too`
`09:39.09`	`Rycochet`	`Wobin: use basic trig to get the tostance, then divide that by the speed`
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`09:39.23`	`Rycochet`	`s/tostance/distance/`
`09:39.33`	`Wobin`	`whee basic trig =)`
`09:39.42`	`Rycochet`	`sohcahtoa`
`09:39.46`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`09:39.51`	`Rycochet`	`sine = opposite / hypotenuse`
`09:39.57`	`Wobin`	`what if they're not actually going in the right direction?`
`09:40.00`	`Rycochet`	`can't remember the rest, only the word ;-P`
`09:40.08`	`Wobin`	`like off at an angle?`
`09:40.10`	`Rycochet`	`that's their problem ;-P`
`09:40.55`	`Rycochet`	`erm... pass - you could always do something like "2m47s+"`
`09:40.59`	`pastamancer`	`tell them that they're going the wrong way :p`
`09:41.06`	`Rycochet`	`in bright red`
`09:41.07`	`Rycochet`	`and blinking`
`09:41.09`	`Rycochet`	`;-)`
`09:41.41`	`Wobin`	`What defines the 'wrong way'? If they're off at a slight angle, when do I say "er, left turn at Alberquiquy'?`
`09:41.52`	`Rycochet`	`if you want to fudge it, then i'd say add a % depending on how far out the angle is`
`09:42.45`	`pastamancer`	`Wobin: when their current distance to target is further than the previous distance to target`
`09:43.35`	`Wobin`	`hm, good idea`
`09:43.38`	`pastamancer`	`ie. when they are moving away from the target`
`09:43.44`	`Rycochet`	`how about - work out time to target, save it - next second work it out again, if it's not 1 second less then make the total time to target shown dependant on that`
`09:44.11`	`pastamancer`	`it shouldn't bug people that need to go around trees`
`09:44.40`	`Rycochet`	`so they're getting closer at 1m/sec, but they can move at 2m/s, therefore show the time to target at 1m/sec`
`09:45.28`	`Rycochet`	`and only let the apparent speed change by a small amount each tick so it doesn't spam the changes`
`09:45.29`	`pastamancer`	`I'd suggest keeping 1, 5, 15, and 30 second velocities so that the ETA doesn't drastically change if they need to go around a wall`
`09:45.36`	`Rycochet`	`exactly`
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`09:45.58`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`09:49.54`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r28254 10AutoBar/ (10 files):`
`09:49.54`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`09:49.54`	`CIA-17`	`-- Reorganize buff foods a bit. Added warp burgers.`
`09:49.54`	`CIA-17`	`-- Add Chest and Shield Buffs`
`09:50.03`	`pastamancer`	`Wobin: it's mathy`
`09:52.00`	`Wobin`	`=\`
`09:52.00`	`Wobin`	`I hate mathy`
`09:52.00`	`Wobin`	`And I do it for a job =P`
`09:52.23`	`Wobin`	`Although, all my job makes me realise is just how much highschool maths I've forgotten`
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`09:58.34`	`neenee`	`I think it's because many schools taught you math to do tests, and not to use it`
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`10:03.30`	`CIA-17`	`VanasKoS:`
`10:03.30`	`CIA-17`	`- added minimap button`
`10:03.30`	`CIA-17`	`- added kos-sound configuration`
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`10:17.08`	`CIA-17`	`loudmouth:`
`10:17.08`	`CIA-17`	`-Update for Beta Testers.`
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`11:28.46`	`purl`	`mok <n=chatzill@dslb-084-058-167-137.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23h 26m 38s ago, saying: 'evl: you could /glist send to yourself if you like this more :)'.`
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`11:29.22`	`CIA-17`	`03ominous * r28259 10Niagara/Niagara.toc: Niagara: changed toc`
`11:29.26`	`packetlss`	`are there any Ace'd addons with similar functionality to Chronometer?`
`11:29.28`	`Elkano`	`Chronometer?`
`11:29.28`	`Wobin`	`I thought Chronometer was Ace?`
`11:29.28`	`lys`	`Maybe he wants something other than Chronometer`
`11:29.28`	`Zicon`	`Chronometer is Ace.`
`11:29.29`	`Ominous`	`well depends on what class you want it for`
`11:29.29`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r28260 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: deDE Update`
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`11:30.38`	`packetlss`	`need it to use with warlock`
`11:30.38`	`packetlss`	`chronometer works somewhat good, but it has a tendency to lose the timer bars sometimes`
`11:30.38`	`Ominous`	`try FuBar_WarlockTimerFu maybe`
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`11:30.41`	`cncfanatics`	`good morning everyone :)`
`11:30.41`	`packetlss`	`Ominous: i'll do that thx`
`11:30.43`	`Silviu-`	`packetlss i use Dotimer`
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`11:30.44`	`packetlss`	`i used to use DoTimer to, but i want something Ace'd`
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`11:35.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`am I the only one that gets nervous when something works the first time you try it?`
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`11:39.47`	`nymbia`	`Kaelten-Laptop: haha`
`11:40.47`	`nymbia`	`Kaelten-Laptop: it worries me when my drycode works, as there's usually at least one typo. If it doesnt surface at first, then it'll probably surface in 6 months in a really nasty way.`
`11:40.56`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
`11:41.01`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`so I'm not the only one`
`11:41.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'm revamping the expressions system for uiQuery`
`11:41.27`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`childOf has gotten ugly :s`
`11:41.54`	`Rycochet`	`i love it when things work first time - that way i get the fun of adding more features immediately and not having to worry about bugs ;-P`
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`11:46.39`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`funky recursive systems for the win?`
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`11:48.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`anyone ever gotten this error before Attempt to find 'this' in non-framescript object`
`11:49.35`	`Nargiddley`	`pasing a non frame object to a bliz frame function has got me that before`
`11:49.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ah I think you where right`
`11:50.08`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I was passing in an invalid self argument on typo`
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`12:00.55`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Kaelten-Laptop: question, are the permissions on changelogs in the zips being set properly? because the update script i use is unziping the files and the changelogs all have no permissions on them (000)`
`12:01.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I think it started right about when you initially switched the changelog to xml format`
`12:01.53`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm, thats a question for pasta`
`12:02.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`okay, wasn't sure who was in charge of that`
`12:02.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I do what I can but I'm not sure what permissions they should have`
`12:02.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`644 seems appropriate`
`12:03.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`is it actively breaking something?`
`12:03.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, aside from making it a pain in the arse to do anything with them on a *nix based system, no not really ;)`
`12:04.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Just figured i'd say something, it's not urgent at all`
`12:04.14`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
`12:04.24`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`well I'll see if I can't patch it in at some point :)`
`12:05.34`	`Ominous`	`is anyone else having trouble with wau?`
`12:05.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`cool :)`
`12:07.00`	`Fisker-`	`Can you make a macro so the required skill won't autoselfcast or cast on your target?`
`12:07.10`	`Fisker-`	`i.e. it will always show the spellcast cursor`
`12:08.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`um. try [target=none]?`
`12:08.14`	`Nargiddley`	`just tried it, seems to work`
`12:08.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`really? wow, i totally pulled that out of my arse`
`12:08.56`	`Nargiddley`	`i was already trying it heh`
`12:09.13`	`Nargiddley`	`i guessed as well, yay for the obvious being right ?`
`12:09.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i guess that's some measure of compliment to slouken and the ui team. :P`
`12:10.43`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, any syntax changes for uiQuery users ?`
`12:11.09`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`not yet :) working on finishing up some enhancements to selectors and putting a few new functions out`
`12:11.36`	`cncfanatics`	`gonna try it on fb2 right now`
`12:11.36`	`Ominous`	`kaelten: would it be possible to add the commit message to the latest.xml?`
`12:11.51`	`cncfanatics`	`also Kaelten, is there any noticable performance drop with uiquery ?`
`12:11.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`possibily`
`12:12.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: honestly I don't know,`
`12:12.12`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'd avoid selectors on system critical paths`
`12:12.16`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`other than that it shouldn't be bad`
`12:12.19`	`cncfanatics`	`I have 120 frames created, I will notice any framedrop`
`12:12.40`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hehe, if you find some let me know`
`12:12.46`	`cncfanatics`	`will do :)`
`12:12.53`	`cncfanatics`	`gonna watch the framerate before changing anything`
`12:12.57`	`cncfanatics`	`and check it again after i'm done`
`12:14.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`expressions are going to be a performance hit I'm thinking just because it creates several tables and does other mystical things`
`12:14.11`	`cncfanatics`	`expressions ? :p`
`12:14.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`after I get everything working we can work on optimizing the hell out of it`
`12:14.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`yep :)`
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`12:14.11`	`cncfanatics`	`lemme read ur wiki entry in detail heh`
`12:14.11`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hehe`
`12:14.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Another random question, does anyone know if GarbageFu will use colalight for sell value info?`
`12:14.16`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, i'll start to use it on my addon right away, so if u need benchmarks of addons using it feel free to use mine`
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`12:16.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:)`
`12:16.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`don't mind me asking, but which one are youusing it in?`
`12:16.57`	`Ominous`	`is there an advantage of using " or ' or is it just personal preference`
`12:17.13`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ominous for what purpose?`
`12:17.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i'd presume strings`
`12:17.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`local s = 'a string' vs local s = "some other string"`
`12:18.04`	`cncfanatics`	`if its like in php, you don't have to escape stuff when using ', while you do when using "`
`12:18.11`	`cncfanatics`	`I have no clue though :p`
`12:18.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`cncfanatics: well, you DO hvae to escape ' when using ' :P`
`12:18.55`	`cncfanatics`	`only that :p`
`12:19.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`oh that? ya the only advantage is stopping from having to escape out of the other`
`12:19.33`	`Ominous`	`excape?`
`12:19.59`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`"and he said \"Hi!\""`
`12:20.09`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`rather than 'and he said "Hi!"'`
`12:20.57`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, if I do frame = uiquery():create(...) I wont have to do uiquery(frame):... all time right ?`
`12:22.13`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ya, you can do frame = uiQuery(frame) or frame = uiQuery():create(...) or frame = uiQuery("!Frame"....)`
`12:22.44`	`cncfanatics`	`the shorter the better :p`
`12:23.32`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, was uiQuery tested on secure frames yet ? :)`
`12:29.43`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm no it hasn't been`
`12:29.59`	`ilifin`	`any of the *Updaters that work for mac yet? :(`
`12:30.01`	`cncfanatics`	`testing it at this very moment then :p`
`12:30.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`it'll probably depend on what you want to do to it`
`12:30.35`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, a bug`
`12:30.39`	`CIA-17`	`03tattersail * r28261 10IncomingHeals/IncomingHeals.toc:`
`12:30.39`	`CIA-17`	`IncomingHeals:`
`12:30.39`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated version to 43i`
`12:30.39`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`?`
`12:30.50`	`cncfanatics`	`SetAllPoints(uiquery_object); won't work`
`12:30.58`	`cncfanatics`	`how to access the real frame ?`
`12:31.06`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm`
`12:31.21`	`[dRaCo]`	`ilifin: JavaAceUpdater should, iirc`
`12:31.38`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`.__frames is a table of all frames attached to that object`
`12:31.51`	`ilifin`	`[dRaCo] - broke ages ago`
`12:32.15`	`ilifin`	`the developer already stated he isn't updating it either -_-`
`12:32.20`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`is SetAllPoints being called from another uiQuery Ojbect?`
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`12:32.33`	`cncfanatics`	`self.Frame.Icon = self.Frame:CreateTexture(nil, "BACKGROUND"):SetAllPoints(self.Frame); is my line of code`
`12:32.34`	`cncfanatics`	`self.`
`12:32.41`	`cncfanatics`	`self.Frame being an uiquery object`
`12:33.16`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ok thats going to take some hacking on my part`
`12:33.31`	`cncfanatics`	`ok :)`
`12:33.32`	`\|Kev\|`	`ilifin: mau works now doesn't it?`
`12:33.43`	`ilifin`	`no?`
`12:33.48`	`\|Kev\|`	`Kaelten said that the old changelog naming had been re-introduced?`
`12:33.58`	`ilifin`	`doesn't work at all`
`12:34.00`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'm probably going to have to get CreateTexture to return a uiQuery object itself, and I'm probably going to have to override SetAllPoints`
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`12:34.05`	`\|Kev\|`	`'at all'?`
`12:34.17`	`ilifin`	`half my mods have been updated past four days, none of them being detected as updated`
`12:34.29`	`\|Kev\|`	`curious`
`12:34.41`	`\|Kev\|`	`Kaelten-Laptop: you said that the old changelog format had been re-instated didn't you?`
`12:34.46`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, override SetAllPoints ? framexml uses it too right ?`
`12:34.52`	`cncfanatics`	`will create tainting issues`
`12:35.17`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`\|Kev\| yes`
`12:35.30`	`ilifin`	`according to MAU, I have 7 ace mods installed`
`12:35.34`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: SetAllPoints is protected?`
`12:35.40`	`cncfanatics`	`let me check`
`12:35.55`	`\|Kev\|`	`ilifin: you'll need to update them again, after the zips have been regenerated, to get the old naming scheme back`
`12:36.06`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`all I'm going to do is wrap it in a helper function to allow uiQuery objects to be passed in to it`
`12:36.19`	`ilifin`	`so those with the Changelog-modname-rxxxxxx.txt files need to be manually updated?`
`12:36.19`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, meh, never mind me, just realised the stupidness of what I said :p`
`12:36.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`shouldnt matter about being protected, but its called by a lot of default ui code meaning it would cause taint unless it was a local override`
`12:36.32`	`\|Kev\|`	`ilifin: they can be updated with mau`
`12:36.38`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Arrowmaster: it will be a local override`
`12:36.40`	`Fisker-`	`doh`
`12:36.55`	`ilifin`	`\|Kev\|, yea, but manually as in I have to find them all first >_>`
`12:36.56`	`Fisker-`	`what's the script command for auto-unstuck?`
`12:36.56`	`\|Kev\|`	`you'll just have to select them in mau, because it doesn't know they're installed if they use Changelog-modname-rxxxxxx.txt`
`12:37.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`Fisker-: /gm`
`12:38.25`	`Fisker-`	`That's not a script command`
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`12:39.00`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r28262 10LuckyCharms/Luckycharms.lua: LuckyCharms: removed errounous globals i forgot to remove once i tested it`
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`12:45.07`	`Ominous`	`how do you sort a table if it is indexed by strings not numbers`
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`12:47.44`	`cncfanatics`	`on secure frames, is there any way to hook OnClick, or replace it temporary ?`
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`12:50.41`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: in 2.1 we're getting a HookScript command that'll let us tag stuff onto the end of it`
`12:51.16`	`cncfanatics`	`well, I want actionbuttons, when they are unlocked to not trigger their action but be dragged instead`
`12:51.50`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ah, well if its a protected frame I think that'll taint it :S`
`12:52.01`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'm not the expert on protected frames though`
`12:52.21`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`probably going to have to put an overlay on it and use that to handle the clicks`
`12:52.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`but thats just my guess`
`12:52.29`	`cncfanatics`	`not sure`
`12:52.37`	`cncfanatics`	`there are menu appearing funcs in the secure state headers`
`12:52.42`	`cncfanatics`	`might be able to use those for dragging`
`12:53.23`	`cncfanatics`	`either way, can't try anything till uiQuery manages to get setpoint working :p`
`12:53.36`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`LP`
`12:53.37`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:P`
`12:53.39`	`cncfanatics`	`setallpoints* :p`
`12:53.51`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`let me get the sibling op working`
`12:54.05`	`cncfanatics`	`setAttribute works on uiquery objects right ?`
`12:54.42`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm? all default functions are there, only problem you're going to have is if you try to pass a query into the function`
`12:54.44`	`ilifin`	`any concise list of 2.1 update available yet?`
`12:54.49`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r28263 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.lua:`
`12:54.49`	`CIA-17`	`PeriodicTable-3.0:`
`12:54.49`	`CIA-17`	`- Internal optimizations, most specifically in decompression of sets.`
`12:54.52`	`cncfanatics`	`btw Kaelten-Laptop, how did u declare every possible widget function in ur objects, or use a default function ?`
`12:54.56`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ilifin: check the main forum`
`12:55.11`	`ilifin`	`wow europe or wow us forums?`
`12:55.16`	`ilifin`	`:<`
`12:55.20`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm I know its in the us forums`
`12:55.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: metatable :)`
`12:55.35`	`ilifin`	`damned devs never updating the EU community with information :p`
`12:55.38`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, i'm going to need such stuff too :)`
`12:55.45`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`they get cached but they don't actually get created until you try to do it.`
`12:56.08`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, would it be possible to have a table with a default value that is a function ?`
`12:56.17`	`[dRaCo]`	`ilifin: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&sid=1`
`12:56.27`	`cncfanatics`	`thats such a weird concept -.-`
`12:56.33`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: what cha mean?`
`12:56.46`	`cncfanatics`	`used to php, metatables are new to me :)`
`12:57.28`	`Rycochet`	`cncfanatics: yes - somewhere in the manual i found that, one sec`
`12:57.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ilifin: http://dpaste.com/5769/`
`12:57.51`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ya metatables took me a while to get used to`
`12:57.58`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`but they can do some cool stuff once you get used to iem`
`12:58.09`	`Rycochet`	`http://www.lua.org/pil/index.html - drill down and you'll find it, default values or something`
`12:58.22`	`cncfanatics`	`I'd need the default value of a table to be a function`
`12:58.27`	`cncfanatics`	`and that function to know how it was called`
`12:58.28`	`ilifin`	`thanks both of you`
`12:58.55`	`Rycochet`	`i'm pretty sure that's what it said - i was only scanning for how to code lua`
`12:58.58`	`cncfanatics`	`will read up that doc when I get there, thanks Rycochet, Kaelten-Laptop :)`
`12:59.19`	`cncfanatics`	`omg`
`12:59.25`	`cncfanatics`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:59.31`	`cncfanatics`	`memory tracked on a per addon base :)`
`13:00.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ya I think its going to scare a lot of people`
`13:00.38`	`Rycochet`	`http://www.lua.org/pil/13.4.3.html - if that's saying what i think it's saying`
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`13:01.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`the memory management stuff in 2.1.0 makes me happy i run with standalones`
`13:02.06`	`cncfanatics`	`Arrowmaster, superfluous get cleaned with first GC collect anyway :p`
`13:02.25`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, warm me when uiquery manages SetAllPoints please, going SL in the meantime`
`13:03.13`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: probably be later today`
`13:03.31`	`evl`	`What tradeskill simpllification mods are out there`
`13:03.37`	`cncfanatics`	`ok Kaelten-Laptop , thanks a lot for that nifty uiquery :!)`
`13:03.44`	`evl`	`I'm jewelcrafter and the default interface is driving me nuts`
`13:05.26`	`cncfanatics`	`manufac evl, but it doesn't work quite nice with JC last time I checked`
`13:05.47`	`cncfanatics`	`elkano's frameresized also helps`
`13:05.55`	`evl`	`where can I find that elkanos`
`13:06.30`	`nymbia`	`cncfanatics: there's some pretty solid defaults for jeweling now, but i havent given it much (any) testing with jeweling since beta.`
`13:07.07`	`evl`	`if the problem lies in the defaults only that wouldn't be a problem`
`13:08.02`	`nevcairiel`	`nymbia can it sort per color?`
`13:08.02`	`cncfanatics`	`nymbia, in trunk ?`
`13:08.02`	`nymbia`	`evl: it is if you're not excited about regrouping everything, the interface for that is a bit tedious.`
`13:08.12`	`nymbia`	`nevcairiel: the defaults are sorted by gem color, yes.`
`13:08.21`	`nymbia`	`cncfanatics: trunk, yes.`
`13:08.24`	`evl`	`Hmms, can you have one gem in two different categories?`
`13:08.33`	`nymbia`	`nope`
`13:08.50`	`evl`	`would be nice`
`13:08.59`	`evl`	`one category called "Blue socket" and one called "Spell damage"`
`13:10.10`	`nymbia`	`that's true, i'll have to give that some thought. it's the first profession that lends itself to that kind of categorization, so the structure wasn't designed around it`
`13:11.12`	`evl`	`Well my suggestion (and probably Google's too!) would be to implement some sort of tagging system`
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`13:15.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`cncfanatics: i ment im happy im using standalones because i hopefully will get less flash reports from the new memory management stuff because of embeds`
`13:15.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`anybody mind if i go and break EQCompare to stop it from tainting`
`13:16.34`	`cncfanatics`	`taint is the boogeyman`
`13:16.56`	`ilifin`	`Arrowmaster, please do >_>`
`13:17.08`	`ilifin`	`I had to remove it since it caused a domino effect`
`13:17.19`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`that reminds me, ive been meaning to download tekcompare...`
`13:17.24`	`nymbia`	`hmm.. i think that for most cases, that's a little overkill. i mean, an alchemist doesnt need seperate categories for "potions"/"elixirs" and "warrior stuff" -- sure, you could make your lookups a bit more convenient occasionally, but it'd be a nightmare on the configuration end of things. i'm more inclined to do some special case stuff for jewelcrafting. maybe autogenerate the categories for the colors so they dont have to be stuck in tha`
`13:17.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`i switched to teks mod`
`13:18.27`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`also.. i <3 shamanistic rage`
`13:26.51`	`Ordog`	`sr enables us dual wielders to farm nonstop :)`
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`13:28.29`	`nevcairiel`	`nerf shaman`
`13:31.07`	`Ordog`	`is somebody tailor in here? how am i supposed to train above 265 ? theres only primal cloth recipes... and those suck ...`
`13:31.27`	`Ordog`	`dont really want to waste primal cloth on training -.-`
`13:31.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh`
`13:31.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`im only at 361`
`13:31.51`	`Ordog`	`oh i ment 365 ^^`
`13:32.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yay for taking on 3 mobs higher levle than me, yay shaman. :P`
`13:32.34`	`Ordog`	`DW for farming/leveling is Uber indeed`
`15:02.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, my shammy is 50 right now`
`15:02.09`	`ilifin`	`do we have a mod that breaks down item stats on an item and informs what it will provide per class in a tooltip or whatever?`
`15:02.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ilifin: you mean like "+10 Agility (.3% crit, 20 Armor, blah blah)"`
`15:02.09`	`Ordog`	`imbued netherweave bags are ... 72 netherweave cloth 1 greater nether essence 2 netherweb ... and they sell for 40g nowadays... i was the first to put em into the AH on our server and the first 4 sold for 65g ^^ now its not that efficient anymore 8/`
`15:02.09`	`ilifin`	`yea, NightHawkTheSane`
`15:02.09`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ilifin: not that i'm aware. The closest is Rating Buster, which translates ratings into percentages`
`15:02.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`but, i would -love- a mod that did that. :)`
`15:02.10`	`ilifin`	`that one I know of but I'd like one that breaks down the rest kinda`
`15:02.10`	`ilifin`	`it would require massive data collection`
`15:02.10`	`ilifin`	`considering you'd either need to calculate what stuff provides on 1 and 70 and then find the formula for the exponential losses of bonuses per levelup`
`15:02.10`	`CIA-17`	`03arrowmaster * r28264 10EQCompare/ (EQCompare.lua EQCompare.toc): EQCompare: hackish fix to prevent tainting thats breaking equipped:* in macros, too lazy to do a real fix right now (drycoded) suggest switching to tekKompare.`
`15:02.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, the formulas are fairly well known for -most- things, i believe`
`15:02.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`anybody wana test that and tell me if i broke it or not?`
`15:02.11`	`ilifin`	`oh wow, I like Rating Buster`
`15:02.11`	`echos`	`Anyone know exactly how Transcriptor works I got the basics of it but I'm not sure on how to read the recorded data`
`15:02.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, rating buster is hot.`
`15:02.11`	`ilifin`	`now give me a attributebuster for AP, agi etc`
`15:02.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hehe`
`15:02.11`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hack it yourself? :P`
`15:02.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`actually`
`15:02.12`	`ilifin`	`I'm not experienced in Lu Fu`
`15:02.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i wonder if i could do that, it might not be terribly hard`
`15:02.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`echos: you read it in a text editor`
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`15:02.13`	`ilifin`	`NightHawkTheSane - if you ever try I can atleast provide values for what's provided for a 70 rogue :p`
`15:02.14`	`Fisker-`	`Did tek finish his ratingbuster clone btw?`
`15:02.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think`
`15:02.14`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`he was making a clone?`
`15:02.14`	`ilifin`	`really?`
`15:02.15`	`ilifin`	`NightHawkTheSane, check http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3999`
`15:02.15`	`ilifin`	`that does something similar, it only that it calculates.. points.. ? :p`
`15:02.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
`15:02.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`there's a few mods like that`
`15:02.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`its not really what'd i'd like to see. What i'd really want is just what I described, the hardest thing for me is, for example, comparing agility to crit rating :\`
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`15:02.16`	`ilifin`	`well if I don't remember wrong, 22.7 crit rating is 1% crit for rogues`
`15:02.16`	`ilifin`	`while 40.4 agi is 1% crit`
`15:02.16`	`ilifin`	`not entirely sure tho :p`
`15:02.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`well, i think the rating->percentage is the same for everyone`
`15:02.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`its the ability score->percentage thats class specific`
`15:02.17`	`Fisker-`	`anyone know to get tek's rating thingy?`
`15:02.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"where" to get, you mean? no...`
`15:02.17`	`Fisker-`	`hoho`
`15:02.17`	`Fisker-`	`i hate you :(`
`15:02.17`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`:(`
`15:02.18`	`ilifin`	`Arrowmaster switched to teks, he must know!`
`15:02.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`actually i havent yet`
`15:02.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`but http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/`
`15:02.18`	`Fisker-`	`oh`
`15:02.19`	`ilifin`	`tekiRate :o`
`15:02.19`	`Fisker-`	`thought the download section automatically got versions from his svn`
`15:02.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres zip files there too`
`15:02.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`now how the fuck do i make a ScrollingMessageFrame`
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`15:02.22`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28265 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`15:02.22`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`15:02.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Expressions system updated`
`15:02.23`	`CIA-17`	`-- New selector ,`
`15:02.23`	`CIA-17`	`-- New argument *`
`15:02.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'm both prouad and emberassed about the new expressions in uiQuery`
`15:02.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`er proud`
`15:02.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`it works, but it can turn some tables`
`15:02.24`	`Fisker-`	`how can you code on a laptop?`
`15:02.24`	`Fisker-`	`Using h4x?`
`15:02.24`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm?`
`15:02.24`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, explain yourself ? :)`
`15:02.24`	`Fisker-`	`my laptop keyboard sucks :(`
`15:02.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`the same way one code's anywhere else? :P`
`15:02.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er, minus the apostrophe`
`15:02.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`oh, I'm actually using the keyboard on my desktop`
`15:02.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`synergy2 :)`
`15:05.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`nice`
`15:05.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah, i <3 synergy2, and teleport (a mac pref pane that does the same thing)`
`15:05.01`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`just for some reason if I run my irc client on my desktop while I have wow running my system becomes unstable`
`15:05.01`	`Fisker-`	`lol`
`15:05.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery#Expressions`
`15:05.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`updated to reflect the new changes`
`15:05.02`	`cncfanatics`	`thank you`
`15:05.03`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, I supose that that stuff is addonwide and not totaly global ? :p`
`15:05.03`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm? ya anywhere you can use an expression you can use these thigns`
`15:05.03`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmm`
`15:05.03`	`cncfanatics`	`probably some places yea, not a lot though`
`15:05.04`	`cncfanatics`	`a hide all and show all func can be made easy with the wildcard func :)`
`15:05.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`yep`
`15:05.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`one more update on it`
`15:05.04`	`cncfanatics`	`if I do queryobject("*"):Hide(); will that hide the whole UI or only flexbar2 stuff`
`15:05.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`neither`
`15:05.05`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`it'll error for not having a scope`
`15:05.05`	`cncfanatics`	`bleh, I can hardly declare a scope, all my buttons don't have a common parent`
`15:05.05`	`cncfanatics`	`I could use this stuff for group manipulation though, button grps`
`15:05.06`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ui("*", Bar1) would select all the chidren from bar1`
`15:05.06`	`sylvanaar`	`since pprovost had a family issue, can somone host this until he has time to release`
`15:05.07`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`sylvanaar: I can`
`15:05.07`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:)`
`15:05.07`	`sylvanaar`	`http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wau1.7b5-09.zip`
`15:05.07`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop("*", FlexBarGroupX): will be very handy for bulk button manip :)`
`15:05.08`	`sylvanaar`	`that was my last build`
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`15:05.08`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`http://www.wowace.com/wau/wau1.7b5-09.zip`
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`15:05.12`	`cncfanatics`	`wau, any linux version of it ? :p`
`15:05.14`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28266 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`15:05.14`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`15:05.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Expressions now Strict Select using GetObjectType instead of IsObjectType`
`15:05.15`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28267 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`15:05.15`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`15:05.16`	`CIA-17`	`-Added the following functions`
`15:05.16`	`CIA-17`	`-- Filter(exp)`
`15:05.16`	`CIA-17`	`-- Children([exp])`
`15:05.16`	`CIA-17`	`-- End()`
`15:05.16`	`cncfanatics`	`End() ?`
`15:05.17`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:) you'll see`
`15:05.17`	`cncfanatics`	`doc updated ? :p`
`15:05.17`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`working on that now`
`15:05.18`	`cncfanatics`	`one request also Kaelten`
`15:05.18`	`cncfanatics`	`wld be nice to have chaining on GetNormalTexture, GetCheckedTexture and so on`
`15:05.19`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`how would I do that hrm?`
`15:05.19`	`cncfanatics`	`replace them with local versions ? :o`
`15:05.19`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'm not sure that's really possible though and still have this working`
`15:05.19`	`cncfanatics`	`pastey down; bleh`
`15:05.20`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`now what I might be able to do is do a helper function to work with multiple textures at the same time`
`15:05.20`	`cncfanatics`	`can I paste something here as pastey down?`
`15:05.21`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`use dpaste.com`
`15:05.21`	`cncfanatics`	`http://dpaste.com/5771/`
`15:05.21`	`cncfanatics`	`wld be nice to shorten that code`
`15:05.21`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hehe, I agree`
`15:05.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery#Traversing_API`
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`15:05.23`	`cncfanatics`	`I can do that with that ? :p`
`15:05.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:05.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`shows all the <Frame> chidlren of OneBag Frame`
`15:05.24`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`then sets the OnClick handler of all the Buttons on OneBagFrame`
`15:05.24`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`then Shows OneBagFrame`
`15:05.24`	`cncfanatics`	`HANDY SHIT /p`
`15:05.24`	`cncfanatics`	`ups caps`
`15:05.24`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`lol`
`15:05.24`	`cncfanatics`	`nifty stuff :)`
`15:05.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`http://dpaste.com/5772/`
`15:05.25`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmm, children and filter are confusing, but, children will remove all non-frames from the queryset, and filter will remove all frames from the queryset when using "Frame" right ?`
`15:05.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm?`
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`15:05.27`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`well Filter will Filter the current dataset`
`15:05.27`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`so ifyou have 3 buttons and a frame selected and you filter for the frame it'll be the only thing selected`
`15:05.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`children on the other hands actually GetChidlren/GetRegions on the current dataset and will then filter them if needed`
`15:12.24`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28268 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`15:12.24`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`15:12.24`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Typo`
`15:12.24`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Size([h], [w], [s])`
`15:12.24`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Center([offX], [offY], [relTo])`
`15:13.01`	`Prophy`	`anyone notice which mod breaks the PVP Tab Arena?? u can't see the listing of members...`
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`15:13.27`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, cheers :)`
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`15:16.13`	`ilifin`	`what is uiQuery :p`
`15:16.20`	`ilifin`	`"mad experiment" :<`
`15:17.09`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery`
`15:17.12`	`cncfanatics`	`handyest thing ever made :)`
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`15:17.57`	`fatbrain`	`What's the current toc?`
`15:18.10`	`_neuron_`	`that's really nice cncfanatics`
`15:18.29`	`kenlyric\|home`	`20003 still, I believe`
`15:18.33`	`fatbrain`	`kenlyric\|home: thanks.`
`15:18.43`	`cncfanatics`	`_neuron_ its kaelten's not mine`
`15:19.03`	`_neuron_`	`thanks for the link though ;)`
`15:19.20`	`ilifin`	`uiQuery("*", UIParent):SetAlpha(.5) -- ya, makes the whole ui a little hazy. <-- laffo`
`15:19.45`	`cncfanatics`	`uiQuery("*", UIParent):SetAllPoints(UIParent); is fun`
`15:20.12`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ui("*", UIParent):SetAlpha(.75):Filter("Frame > Button"):SetAlpha(.5):End():Children():SetAlpha(.7)`
`15:20.18`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:)`
`15:20.26`	`Industrial`	`>-O`
`15:20.31`	`Industrial`	`s/-/_/`
`15:20.48`	`JoshBorke`	`morning Kaelten-Laptop`
`15:20.54`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hi Josh`
`15:21.04`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Industrial: weird aint it?`
`15:21.12`	`JoshBorke`	`ui query looks neat`
`15:21.18`	`cncfanatics`	`it is VERY :)`
`15:21.23`	`cncfanatics`	`few bugs to squash tho`
`15:21.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`it is neat`
`15:21.29`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`at least I think so`
`15:21.33`	`cncfanatics`	`working SetAllPoints please :)`
`15:21.49`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`no, never!`
`15:21.50`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:P`
`15:21.53`	`Industrial`	`Kaelten-Laptop: yes, but I like it :D`
`15:22.01`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hehe`
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`15:22.19`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, locked on my coding till it works :)`
`15:22.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`did discover a little bug or really an oversite`
`15:23.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`about empty query objects`
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`16:47.43`	`AKX`	`OK, I just dumped AlphaMap in favor of Cartographer. ^_^`
`16:47.44`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28269 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed)`
`16:47.44`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`16:47.44`	`CIA-17`	`- :CreateTexture([name], [layer], [template])`
`16:47.44`	`CIA-17`	`-- Returns a new destructive query`
`16:47.44`	`CIA-17`	`- :CreateFontString([name], [layer], [template])`
`16:47.45`	`CIA-17`	`-- Returns a new destructive query`
`16:47.45`	`CIA-17`	`- :SetAllPoints(arg)`
`16:47.45`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: ping`
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`16:47.46`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28270 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`16:47.46`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`16:47.46`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed typo`
`16:47.46`	`cncfanatics`	`?`
`16:47.46`	`cncfanatics`	`wooo Kaelten-Laptop, thanks :)`
`16:47.47`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`test it for me, I havn't had a chacne to`
`16:47.47`	`cncfanatics`	`will do when i'm out of Shadowlab :p`
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`16:47.48`	`Industrial`	`cncfanatics: gogo FB2 :D?`
`16:47.48`	`cncfanatics`	`will work on grouping after i'm out of SL`
`16:47.48`	`cncfanatics`	`its pretty usable except u got no groups, keybindings or text subs :p`
`16:47.49`	`Industrial`	`lol :p`
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`16:47.51`	`kenlyric\|home`	`does blizzard have any stat limitations between swords/maces/axes, or are the differences merely cosmetic?`
`16:47.51`	`cynyr_`	`hmm hemlock seems to not support the new poison rogues get at 68....`
`16:47.51`	`Azurewrath`	`Kaelten-Laptop: ## Notes: A Mad Experiment.. mhm, what type of experiment? ;)`
`16:47.51`	`Industrial`	`you can get most burst damage with swords, and some rogues have swords only, but i have no idea why`
`16:47.51`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery`
`16:47.51`	`cynyr_`	`kenlyric\|home: i think the damage ranges will use some of the points that could go towards stats....`
`16:47.52`	`kenlyric\|home`	`well, they have sword spec.`
`16:47.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Azurewrath: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery`
`16:47.52`	`Azurewrath`	`Kaelten-Laptop: got it, thx ;)`
`16:47.52`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hehe sorry didn't mean to say it twice`
`16:47.52`	`Industrial`	`yes, but also mace or dagger spec`
`16:47.53`	`kenlyric\|home`	`cynyr_: does one type have a higher damage range? I've always wondered about that. I know, for instance, the daggers do less damage but have faster attack speeds.`
`16:47.53`	`cynyr_`	`kenlyric\|home: it has seemed that axes have higher dmg ranges`
`16:47.53`	`kenlyric\|home`	`yeah, but sword spec does best for doing more damage.`
`16:47.53`	`kenlyric\|home`	`unless you're backstabbing a lot :)`
`16:47.53`	`cynyr_`	`kenlyric\|home: depends on what you are killing`
`16:47.53`	`cynyr_`	`for example, Vael gets pwd by dagger rogues, otoh, the in out fights like whats his face(the puppy in BWL) probabbly do better with sword rogues`
`16:47.53`	`cynyr_`	`s/pwd/pwnd`
`16:47.54`	`cynyr_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:47.54`	`cynyr_`	`although most of the time sword vs dagger seems a wash`
`16:47.54`	`Industrial`	`and fist weapons? :P`
`16:47.54`	`Industrial`	`and maces? :P`
`16:47.54`	`cynyr_`	`maces i've never seen in a raid... fists are basicly swords`
`16:47.54`	`haste`	`cynyr_: chrom is more dps as daggers then swords`
`16:47.55`	`CIA-17`	`03bhattu * r28271 10Chronometer/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`16:47.55`	`CIA-17`	`Chronometer:`
`16:47.55`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`16:47.56`	`cynyr_`	`haste: ohh, only odne him with daggers, and AQ40 geard sword rogues, so i lost the dps game`
`16:47.56`	`haste`	`I've done him with AQR and Maxx's fang :)`
`16:47.56`	`haste`	`with rogues with better gear overall, as I switched main`
`16:47.57`	`kenlyric\|home`	`daggers put out more damage for lazy rogues :)`
`16:47.57`	`kenlyric\|home`	`(in raids)`
`16:47.57`	`vodrin`	`better daggers drop in karazhan though than swords =x`
`16:47.57`	`cynyr_`	`haste: umm lobo/gutgore and that blue quest dagger from ZG/aq20`
`16:47.57`	`Azurewrath`	`does anyone know if bhattu is in this channel?`
`16:49.27`	`cynyr_`	`kenlyric\|home: how so? the dps pattern on combat swords was easier`
`16:49.27`	`cynyr_`	`~seen bhattu`
`17:20.37`	`purl`	`bhattu <n=Dean@18-20-64.66.res.logixcom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 122d 1h 28m 14s ago, saying: 'However, the easiest way and Blizzard's way are probably not identical.'.`
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`17:20.38`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28272 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`17:20.38`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`17:20.38`	`CIA-17`	`- missed a Not`
`17:20.38`	`vodrin`	`daggers have less energy to spend afaik`
`17:20.38`	`vodrin`	`after keeping SnD up`
`17:20.38`	`haste`	`not in TBC`
`17:20.38`	`vodrin`	`isn't it even more of the case with potency ?`
`17:20.38`	`cynyr_`	`vodrin: usually none after SnD.. in TBC we'll have extra`
`17:20.38`	`haste`	`you have five combo points when SnD has 15-20 sec left, due to combat potency`
`17:20.38`	`vodrin`	`ah not really looked at combat daggers`
`17:20.38`	`cynyr_`	`so at 3 burn evis, or rupture. and then get back to 5`
`17:20.39`	`vodrin`	`the only rogue that we bring to karazhan went mutilate`
`17:20.39`	`haste`	`mutilate is "okey", it's better dps then combat dagger in theory`
`17:20.39`	`haste`	`the thing with mutilate is that you have way too much that can go wrong, and knock you out of your rotation`
`17:20.39`	`cynyr_`	`only if things are poisonable`
`17:20.39`	`haste`	`that also`
`17:20.39`	`vodrin`	`theres not a lot which isn't poisonable though`
`17:20.39`	`cynyr_`	`bwl and up is... don't know about anything in TBC yet`
`17:20.40`	`haste`	`if you can keep a perfect mutilate rotation through a full fight, you'll knock out combat dagger rogues easily`
`17:20.40`	`haste`	`but your rotation will die, several times during a fight`
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`17:20.40`	`Fisker-`	`this is my cock`
`17:20.40`	`Fisker-`	`oh hi there has`
`17:20.40`	`Fisker-`	`haste`
`17:20.40`	`Fisker-`	`didn't see you there`
`17:20.40`	`vodrin`	`rogues aren't worth it atm =[`
`17:20.41`	`vodrin`	`unless you have heavy melee.. an enhancement shaman dotted in there`
`17:20.41`	`haste`	`ranged is better so far, raid wise`
`17:20.41`	`CIA-17`	`03adirelle * r28273 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer: fixed bug where LoD modules may not be loaded properly.`
`17:20.41`	`Fisker-`	`fucking aight haste`
`17:20.41`	`Fisker-`	`MY COCK`
`17:20.42`	`haste`	`PENIS!`
`17:20.42`	`Fisker-`	`ok`
`17:20.42`	`Industrial`	`shitpickle?`
`17:20.42`	`haste`	`Industrial: Ninja rap!`
`17:20.42`	`Industrial`	`haste: mighty morphin power rangers!`
`17:20.42`	`Industrial`	`:D?`
`17:20.43`	`haste`	`:D`
`17:20.43`	`vodrin`	`our warlocks obliterate everything atm =x`
`17:20.43`	`vodrin`	`rogue only gets lotp though`
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`17:20.44`	`AKX`	`Is it allowed to just re-commit an addon to trunk if it previously has been a /branch? Talking about DreamChat.`
`17:20.45`	`AKX`	`Or should I use SVN merge?`
`17:20.45`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28274 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`17:20.45`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`17:20.45`	`CIA-17`	`- Tweaks and safeties.`
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`17:21.30`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, time to test ur changes :)`
`17:21.30`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:)`
`17:21.30`	`cncfanatics`	`typo ;)`
`17:21.30`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`?`
`17:21.30`	`cncfanatics`	`line 43 of ur file, expected '=' at '=='`
`17:21.31`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`already fixed that`
`17:21.31`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`update your stuff :P`
`17:21.31`	`cncfanatics`	`just updated -.-`
`17:21.31`	`cncfanatics`	`again :)`
`17:21.31`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`still having the error?`
`17:21.31`	`cncfanatics`	`update just done, lemme reload the ui`
`17:21.31`	`cncfanatics`	`still error`
`17:21.31`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28275 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`17:21.31`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`17:21.31`	`CIA-17`	`- typo`
`17:21.31`	`cncfanatics`	`updating`
`17:21.31`	`AKX`	`Kaelten-Laptop, since you're such a lovely guy, can you tell me if I can safely use SVN merge to move DreamChat from branches to trunk if I am to continue developing it now?`
`17:21.32`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I believe you can :)`
`17:21.32`	`AKX`	`So-- How do I do it :P`
`17:21.32`	`cncfanatics`	`Dreamchat zomg`
`17:21.32`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop`
`17:21.32`	`cncfanatics`	`SetallPoints was used in line 143 of ur file`
`17:21.32`	`cncfanatics`	`SetAllPoints it must be :`
`17:21.32`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28276 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`17:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`17:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`- damn typos`
`17:21.33`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`oops`
`17:23.08`	`nevcairiel`	`AKX: just recommit it, it doesnt really matter :)`
`17:23.08`	`cncfanatics`	`[2007/02/17 17:31:59-515-x1]: uiQuery-1.0-25921 (FlexBar2):146: <unnamed>:SetAllPoints(): Couldn't find region named '(null)'`
`17:23.08`	`AKX`	`Oki nevcairiel :)`
`17:23.08`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, ur code ain't working :'(`
`17:23.08`	`cncfanatics`	`self.Frame.Icon = self.Frame:CreateTexture(nil, "BACKGROUND"):SetAllPoints(self.Frame); is my code`
`17:23.08`	`AKX`	`Is there an Ace library to gather people's classes, etc, for chat coloring for example, or should I make DC do it?`
`17:23.08`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`typo /print self.Frame:CreateTexture(nil, "BACKGROUND").__frames`
`17:23.09`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`yer type`
`17:23.12`	`cncfanatics`	`errors out`
`17:23.13`	`cncfanatics`	`need to replace self -.- ups`
`17:23.13`	`AKX`	`What's the current TOC?`
`17:23.13`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`20003`
`17:23.13`	`AKX`	`Okie.`
`17:23.13`	`AKX`	`So what if I break something if I try merge? ^^`
`17:23.13`	`AKX`	`Will I be damned and cursed forever? ^___^`
`17:23.13`	`Rycochet`	`just hunted down by the channel stalker... then he'll install vista on your machine!!! muahahaha!!!!!`
`17:23.14`	`AKX`	`Nooooooooo~~`
`17:23.15`	`kenlyric\|home`	`I didn't think it was possible, but I think postal actually got slower in opening mail.`
`17:23.15`	`AKX`	`Hmm, btw. Is there any Ace addon yet that uses coroutines?`
`17:23.16`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, __frames is a table`
`17:23.16`	`cncfanatics`	`lemme dump it :)`
`17:23.16`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, its just a table with userdata in it`
`17:23.17`	`cncfanatics`	`nothing weird to say about it`
`17:23.17`	`CIA-17`	`03akx 07Nevcairiel * r28277 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (Core.lua DreamChat.toc Messaging.lua):`
`17:23.17`	`CIA-17`	`DreamChat:`
`17:23.18`	`CIA-17`	`- Added channel notify message type, new race languages, hook for external name colorizer`
`17:23.18`	`CIA-17`	`- Going to go trunk soon. O.o`
`17:23.18`	`nevcairiel`	`did someone bother to fix the anchoring issue with dreamchat`
`17:23.19`	`nevcairiel`	`?`
`17:23.19`	`AKX`	`No, not yet, nev.`
`17:23.19`	`CIA-17`	`03pettigrow * r28278 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua): Cartographer: frFR Update`
`17:23.19`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, any clue why it ain't working ? :(`
`17:23.20`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`workin on it`
`17:23.20`	`CIA-17`	`03adirelle * r28279 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-frFR.lua: Automaton: frFR gossip updates.`
`17:23.20`	`CIA-17`	`03adirelle * r28280 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests.toc: Cartographer_Quests: TOC typo fix.`
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`17:23.21`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28281 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`17:23.21`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`17:23.21`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed __sanctifyFrame()`
`17:23.22`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: give it a shot now.`
`17:23.22`	`cncfanatics`	`updating`
`17:23.22`	`cncfanatics`	`working`
`17:23.22`	`cncfanatics`	`another problem now :) with another function`
`17:23.23`	`cncfanatics`	`self.Frame.Cooldown = CreateFrame("Cooldown", nil, self.Frame, "CooldownFrameTemplate"); won't work, alternative ?`
`17:23.23`	`CIA-17`	`03akx * r28282 10DreamChat/ (18 files in 3 dirs):`
`17:23.23`	`CIA-17`	`DreamChat:`
`17:23.23`	`CIA-17`	`- Trunked! I suppose I really should start developing this thingy then. :)`
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`17:23.24`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r28283 10uiQuery/uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua:`
`17:23.24`	`CIA-17`	`uiQuery:`
`17:23.25`	`CIA-17`	`-`
`17:23.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`whoops`
`17:23.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`forgot to type`
`17:23.25`	`cncfanatics`	`lol`
`17:23.25`	`cncfanatics`	`what was updated ? :p`
`17:23.25`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cncfanatics: self.Frame.Cooldown = ui("!FrameType", name, parent, "template")`
`17:23.26`	`cncfanatics`	`oh yea, ups`
`17:23.26`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I made it accept either uiqueries or regular frames`
`17:23.27`	`cncfanatics`	`working :)`
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`17:23.28`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r28284 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Register AnyUp`
`17:23.28`	`Tain`	`There's nothing better than a good open source flamewar.`
`17:23.29`	`cncfanatics`	`cheers Kaelten-Laptop :)`
`17:23.29`	`Tain`	`Linus criticises GNOME again, GNOME devs bitch that he does't do anything constructive but complain, Linus submits patches to fix stuff that annoys him.`
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`17:23.31`	`sylvanaar`	`what is dreamchat? replacement for the chatframes?`
`17:23.31`	`nevcairiel`	`something like that`
`18:25.53`	`Ominous`	`what is the link for wau b5?`
`18:25.53`	`sylvanaar`	`does it just hide them and provide alternates? i wonder can the prat mods be made to work with it`
`18:25.53`	`nevcairiel`	`you should talk to AKX about that, he kinda threw himself at development now`
`18:25.54`	`sylvanaar`	`~seen AKX`
`18:30.17`	`purl`	`akx is currently on #wowace (23h 4m 38s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 1h 6m 58s, last said: 'Ok, well. Anyone know if I have previously developed an addon in branches/.../..., can I just re-commit it to trunk?'.`
`18:30.18`	`cncfanatics`	`a question about frames, is it possible to drag multiple frames at once ?`
`18:30.18`	`JoshBorke`	`only if they are set relative to each other`
`18:30.18`	`nevcairiel`	`what if you call startmoving on two frames?`
`18:30.18`	`JoshBorke`	`that should work too i think`
`18:30.18`	`Tain`	`Try it and see!`
`18:30.18`	`cncfanatics`	`I'll see I guess :p`
`18:30.22`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r28285 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Added Hydross the Unstable deDE, thanks moonsorrow!`
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`18:30.25`	`AKX`	`sylvanaar: regarding your question, no, not straight away. Prat modifies the basic chat frames, whereas DreamChat provides a completely different, _smart_ infrastructure for them.`
`18:30.25`	`Ominous`	`how do you sort a table by the index if the index is text`
`18:31.02`	`AKX`	`Ominous, keys={}; for k in pairs(your_table) do table.insert(keys,k) end table.sort(keys); for _,k in pairs(keys) do do_something_with(your_table[k]) end`
`18:31.02`	`AKX`	`You extract and sort the keys, that is.`
`18:31.02`	`AKX`	`Or you could write a custom iterator (� la pairs) to do that automatically. Which would, mind you, be really useful.`
`18:55.51`	`Ominous`	`tty`
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`18:55.54`	`AKX`	`Also, Ominous, if the table does not change (a lot), you might want to cache that key table`
`18:55.55`	`AKX`	`It's costly memory- and cpu-wise to create and sort such a key table`
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`18:55.58`	`Ominous`	`cache?`
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`18:56.00`	`AKX`	`Yeah, like, just, if it's some single table, pre-create your_table_keys={} with method above`
`18:56.02`	`cladhaire`	`Any reason why encounters like Black Morass CoT don't have anything for BigWigs?`
`18:56.03`	`cladhaire`	`i.e. a timer for the portal openings, etc.`
`18:56.03`	`cladhaire`	`just no real need?`
`18:56.04`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
`18:56.04`	`nevcairiel`	`someone decided that 5mans shouldnt go into bigwigs`
`18:56.04`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: We've considered making LittleWigs, which would contain bossmods for heroic instances.`
`18:56.04`	`MoonWolf`	`still needs data farming and event organizing clad`
`18:56.04`	`vhaarr`	`But normal mode, we've never considered.`
`18:56.05`	`MoonWolf`	`it will happen in the future`
`18:56.05`	`Nickenyfiken`	`LittleWigs would be awsome`
`18:56.05`	`cladhaire`	`hrm.. not sure i understand why they can't go in the main addon, but that's cool`
`18:56.05`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i find myself almost never raid but do dungeons alot`
`18:56.05`	`cladhaire`	`just was curious`
`18:56.06`	`chutwig`	`the little wigettes`
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`18:56.07`	`Nickenyfiken`	`cladhaire: yeah i agree`
`18:56.07`	Funkeh`	`hey all`
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`18:56.07`	`Nickenyfiken`	`isnt it modular anyway?`
`18:56.08`	`kenlyric\|home`	`there are way too many things in the main addon anyway.`
`18:56.08`	`kenlyric\|home`	`be nice if you could get bigwigs + only the instances you need... since it ships with about seven instances we'll never go into again.`
`18:56.08`	Funkeh`	`is the /files script broken again?`
`18:56.08`	`CIA-17`	`03akx * r28286 10DreamChat/:`
`18:56.09`	`CIA-17`	`DreamChat:`
`18:56.09`	`CIA-17`	`- Added externals`
`18:56.09`	`AKX`	`Did I? Wow!`
`18:56.09`	Funkeh`	`ERROR: exception caught Reverting http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ to 28224`
`18:56.09`	`vhaarr`	`kenlyric\|home: Just delete the ones you don't need, or run LoD with them disabled.`
`18:56.11`	Funkeh`	`indeed there is an addon selection menu at your character for a reason`
`18:56.11`	`cladhaire`	`Nickenyfiken, vhaarr: I wonder.. why couldn't there be a SupplyandDemand like LoD system for bigwigs addons`
`18:56.11`	`cladhaire`	`X-Enable-Trigger-Mob: Medivh`
`18:56.11`	`cladhaire`	`populated on load`
`18:56.12`	`cladhaire`	`X-Enable-Trigger-Zone: Kharazan`
`18:56.12`	`vhaarr`	`cladhaire: there is`
`18:56.13`	`cladhaire`	`i'm just trying to understand why five mans can't be included =)`
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`18:56.13`	Funkeh`	`LittleWigs(soon) cladhaire`
`18:56.14`	`cladhaire`	`But.. won't it just be the same core?`
`18:56.14`	`cladhaire`	`and if so, why duplicate it with another name?`
`18:56.14`	`vhaarr`	`because most people don't need it`
`18:56.14`	Funkeh`	`indeed`
`18:56.14`	`cladhaire`	`... so don't give it to them?`
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`21:36.54`	`*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com \| http://www.wowace.com/files \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.lua.org \| WAU 1.7beta4 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. \| Read the README.txt in Cartographer_InstanceNotes if you wish to help it out.`
`21:37.58`	`cncfanatics`	`because he likes being logged in as root ?`
`21:38.12`	`cncfanatics`	`very safe, like running windows in admin mode and then wondering why ur virussed :)`
`21:38.22`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`indeed. :)`
`21:38.42`	`CIA-17`	`03ominous * r28304 10Niagara/Niagara.lua: Niagara: Removes TreeLevel limit`
`21:38.58`	`Sapiens`	`With a little diligence getting a virus in Windows is damn near impossible.`
`21:39.07`	`cncfanatics`	`Right`
`21:39.15`	`cncfanatics`	`most people aren't diligent though`
`21:39.23`	`cncfanatics`	`and open all files they can find as admin :p`
`21:39.47`	`ckknight`	`I like Mac :-P`
`21:39.49`	`Sapiens`	`I think I've been logged in with admin privileges for the better part of two years and haven't had a virus yet. :P`
`21:40.04`	`ckknight`	`if I try to save a file that's protected, it'll ask for a password`
`21:40.07`	`yacoob`	`Sapiens, call yourself lucky :P`
`21:40.15`	`ckknight`	`instead of me needing to open the text editor as root in the first place`
`21:40.23`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, that's only natural`
`21:40.29`	`vodrin`	`you think you haven't got a virus! >xD`
`21:40.50`	`Sapiens`	`yacoob: Nah, just careful.`
`21:41.06`	`Sapiens`	`With a few freeware apps and a few minutes to apply security updates it's pretty easy.`
`21:41.16`	`chutwig`	`ckknight: but windows' gimpy run as service is so much better`
`21:41.24`	`chutwig`	`the one or two times that it works`
`21:41.33`	`yacoob`	`hm`
`21:41.40`	`ckknight`	`but I don't want to run the text editor as root`
`21:41.46`	`ckknight`	`just the saving part`
`21:41.49`	`yacoob`	`so I can make a macro for the trinkets, but it won't change icons accordingly, right?`
`21:41.59`	`ckknight`	`yacoob: not until 2.1.0`
`21:42.15`	`chutwig`	`when programs do that they've usually overloaded the save stuff because that doesn't happen by default`
`21:42.23`	`Ominous`	`nargiddley: nicely done :D`
`21:42.23`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, what's coming then?`
`21:42.31`	`chutwig`	`subethaedit and smultron are smart enough to ask you to authenticate`
`21:42.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yacoob: icons will change if you use /castsequence, but not normally i dont think`
`21:42.36`	`ckknight`	`dynamically changing icons based on state`
`21:42.54`	`ckknight`	`not just /castsequence`
`21:43.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`er, yeah`
`21:43.17`	`Sapiens`	`ckknight: What does it mean if you see an update reported in here but it isn't actually available for download the next day?`
`21:43.40`	`ckknight`	`no idea`
`21:43.54`	`vhaarr`	`Probably means it's a branch.`
`21:43.56`	`Sapiens`	`PProvost isn't here to pester so you're my next target. :P`
`21:44.24`	`Sapiens`	`He fixed the SAL folders problem and pushed it (so it seemed) but it's not actually up.`
`21:46.42`	`ckknight`	`well, my plans for the day are shot because no one in my group for class bothered to show up`
`21:46.53`	`ckknight`	`and now I'm in the library with nothing to do`
`21:47.10`	`ckknight`	`so I can either go home now or go home later, playing WoW until then`
`21:47.24`	`ckknight`	`actually, I'd be playing WoW afterwards anyway`
`21:47.28`	`ckknight`	`so I gain nothing either way`
`21:47.32`	`ckknight`	`but home is more comfy`
`21:47.39`	`Sapiens`	`I vote for home.`
`21:47.42`	`ckknight`	`so I guess I'll see you all later, gonna head home`
`21:47.48`	`Sapiens`	`Later. :)`
`21:51.27`	`Fisker-`	`Anyone remember where the xml for wowace.com/files is?`
`21:52.44`	`Fisker-`	`Kaelten-Laptop i will destroy you`
`21:52.47`	`Fisker-`	`Or ask you nicely`
`21:52.55`	`Fisker-`	`probably ask you nicely since you could just ban me`
`21:52.56`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm?`
`21:52.59`	`art3mis`	`so ive noticed a couple of wierd things sicne my last addons update`
`21:53.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`files.wowace.com/latest.xml`
`21:53.04`	`Fisker-`	`thanks`
`21:53.18`	`Fisker-`	`you're my superhero`
`21:53.26`	`art3mis`	`1. it seems that occacionally a regeant window will get stuck open when i go to a vendor and my bag opens`
`21:53.42`	`art3mis`	`2. my death arrows from cart dont seem to work anymore`
`21:53.51`	`art3mis`	`i miss my death arrows`
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`21:59.54`	`Rycochet`	`just a minor thing here - but could the names of the Cartographer addons get coloured the same way the ones for fubar are - that way it's making a semi-standard for plugin naming ;-)`
`22:01.29`	`Rycochet`	`after all, there's already the semi-standard of naming for things using ace2 ;-)`
`22:02.06`	`cncfanatics`	`the good thing with lua is, nothing is standard`
`22:04.28`	`cncfanatics`	`I'm an svn nub, how to get old files from svn ?`
`22:06.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`svn co -r [revision number] [path]`
`22:06.40`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`also "svn help" is nice.`
`22:06.53`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`anyone having any questions or issues with uiQuery?`
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`22:07.07`	`cncfanatics`	`Kaelten-Laptop, it owns :)`
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`22:22.15`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: When I open my bank in vBagnon and I'm not at the banker, shift-clicking an item gives me the error [2007/02/17 23:18:26-1589-x1]: vBagnon\core\item.lua:246: attempt to call field 'GetItemHyperlink' (a nil value)`
`22:22.38`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: yeah I'm aware :P`
`22:22.54`	`vhaarr`	`ok :)`
`22:23.25`	`Tuller`	`the good news is that i'm actually coding it today :)`
`22:24.05`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r28305 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Fixed hiding frame on auto-looting containers.`
`22:25.33`	`Amadeo`	`http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/16/1937237`
`22:25.35`	`Amadeo`	`Drama!`
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`22:26.31`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: so I'll get a vbagnon update today? yay`
`22:27.06`	`Tuller`	`potentially, but it'll probably be more or less classic bagnon`
`22:27.47`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`my three year old just called me a geek`
`22:27.47`	`nymbia`	`oh Tuller`
`22:27.48`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:s`
`22:28.02`	`Ominous`	`lol lael`
`22:28.05`	`Tuller`	`hrm?`
`22:28.06`	`Ominous`	`keal*`
`22:28.17`	`Ominous`	`kael*`
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`22:28.32`	`nymbia`	`Tuller: omnicc was showing a 2day cooldown item as 51 days remaining for the first day and 50 days remaining for the second day`
`22:28.39`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`vhaarr: in response to your forum post it is ready for testing. I need more suggestions for helper functions and routing out bugs`
`22:28.47`	`Tuller`	`nymbia: that's a bug on blizzard's end`
`22:28.58`	`nymbia`	`Tuller: ok, cool :)`
`22:30.15`	`vhaarr`	`Kaelten-Laptop: alright`
`22:30.48`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: Ah, that's cool, I like classic bagnon as well.`
`22:30.59`	`Xuerian`	`Amadeo: Rofl. Sounds like ui devs.`
`22:33.42`	`Amadeo`	`Feels like WoW forums!`
`22:34.03`	`neenee`	`Nothing new, it has been going on for yearas.`
`22:34.05`	`neenee`	`*years.`
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`22:34.21`	`Amadeo`	`The fighting, but not the patches`
`22:35.59`	`Gandharva`	`seems like http://files.wowace.com/ is not updated. it�s stuck @ r28223`
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`22:38.44`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: I like classic Bagnon better some days since it can show me my other toons bank/bags.`
`22:38.57`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: I'm sure you've go that planned for vbagnon, but.`
`22:39.13`	`Thrae`	`"The Linxrew is the most well-designed interchangable bit screwdriver on the market, far, far better designed then the Winxrew. It is made out of an indestructible material, yet weighs only a feather. It has the ability to intelligent detect the strength required to screw, aleivating any chance of stripping. The Winxrew has none of this." "Really? The Winxrew can use 512 different bits. How many can Linxrew use?" "5. But that's all you`
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`22:41.03`	`Chosi`	`quick suggestion: the cart waypoint arrow needs an ETA timer added`
`22:41.08`	`Chosi`	`message end`
`22:41.09`	`Chosi`	`:>`
`22:41.23`	`Xuerian`	`Thrae: Going to paste the rest?`
`22:41.27`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: actually, I'm probably doing a list view for your stuff`
`22:41.36`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: oh`
`22:41.37`	`Tuller`	`as far as viewing on other characters`
`22:41.39`	`vhaarr`	`interesting`
`22:41.50`	`Thrae`	`Xuerian: Damn irssi, I need a script that warns me about that`
`22:41.58`	`Tuller`	`course, things like sanity exist, but yes`
`22:42.01`	`Xuerian`	`Thrae: Or a script that splits it auto-magically`
`22:42.02`	`Thrae`	`The Winxrew has none of this." "Really? The Winxrew can use 512 different bits. How many can Linxrew use?" "5. But that's all you really need."`
`22:42.28`	`Xuerian`	`Thrae: lol. Where's this from, anyway?`
`22:42.38`	`Thrae`	`Eh, I was bored`
`22:43.17`	`Xuerian`	`lol.`
`22:43.37`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: Know what would be cool? Do you use Auctioneer?`
`22:44.03`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: It adds a line to item tooltips saying "<char> has X in [bank\|bags]."`
`22:44.16`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: maybe vbagnon/bagnon could do that as well`
`22:44.22`	`Tuller`	`bagnon does that :P`
`22:44.25`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`22:44.27`	`vhaarr`	`sweet`
`22:44.54`	`Tuller`	`I basically need just that, and the ability to find an item that's not in my current character's inventory`
`22:45.30`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
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`22:53.06`	`zoktar`	`is there any working "lagmeter" for ocb now ?`
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`22:54.47`	`Xuerian`	`zoktar: It's impossible.`
`22:54.51`	`Xuerian`	`Unfortunately.`
`22:58.45`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ok guys, got it fixed`
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`22:58.48`	`Sniffs`	`hey`
`22:59.04`	`Sniffs`	`quick question whats better aldor or scryer?`
`22:59.19`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Depends.`
`22:59.35`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Depends on your crafting profession(s) (if any) and what kind of items you want.`
`23:00.09`	`Sniffs`	`well im not a crafter`
`23:00.29`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`They've both got potentially useful stuff. In -general- though not always so, healers tend to be better with Aldor, DPS casters better with Scryer. I have no clue as for physical dps sorts.`
`23:00.45`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`There's a Wowwiki page contrasting them, go check it out.`
`23:00.51`	`cncfanatics`	`Sniffs, http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards`
`23:00.56`	`blindjimmy`	`for physical dps, aldor has more ap, scryer has more crit`
`23:01.32`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`zipscript is fixed`
`23:01.41`	`cncfanatics`	`/clap`
`23:01.44`	`Ominous`	`yay`
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`23:04.07`	`CIA-17`	`03ominous * r28306 10Niagara/ (Niagara.lua Niagara.toc): Niagara: toc version update to 1.0`
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`23:09.13`	`cncfanatics`	`wb ckknight :o`
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`23:09.28`	`ckknight`	`hey there`
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`23:15.14`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r28307 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua:`
`23:15.14`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar:`
`23:15.14`	`CIA-17`	`- various tweaks`
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`23:17.59`	`CIA-17`	`03cncfanatics * r28308 10FlexBar2/ (3 files):`
`23:17.59`	`CIA-17`	`FlexBar2:`
`23:17.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Optimized the event handler`
`23:17.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Started writing the Text Substitution handler (it is not in a usable state yet)`
`23:18.21`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ckknight: looked at uiQuery lately?`
`23:18.46`	`ckknight`	`nope`
`23:18.59`	`ckknight`	`is it all wikified?`
`23:19.03`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`dyep`
`23:19.20`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery`
`23:20.15`	`cncfanatics`	`gah, I need to write a whole API doc for fb2 soon too :(`
`23:20.24`	`cncfanatics`	`I hate that as much as writing config GUI's`
`23:20.24`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: are you gonna make it so a Button is also a Frame? for expressions , I mean`
`23:20.34`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: use AceOptions`
`23:20.39`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I had it that way`
`23:20.52`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, gonna make a dewdrop, still work though :p`
`23:20.57`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`at the moment its strict comparissons`
`23:21.11`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: I still strongly suggest using the generic AceOptions`
`23:21.20`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, why ?`
`23:21.22`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: not sure which way is better`
`23:21.28`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: it's implementation agnostic`
`23:21.42`	`cncfanatics`	`eh, meaning ? :s`
`23:21.53`	`ckknight`	`you can use it in AceConsole, Waterfall, and Dewdrop`
`23:22.03`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`whats waterfall?`
`23:22.15`	`ckknight`	`and if someone supports AceOptions, you'll be able to use that as well`
`23:22.16`	`cncfanatics`	`was about to ask that :)`
`23:22.19`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: gui configuration`
`23:22.21`	`Garoun`	`anyone know why Bartender 3 would allof a sudden copy all spells from bar 1 to bar 2?, without paging turned on`
`23:22.29`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`cool`
`23:22.34`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: more similar to Khaos`
`23:22.43`	`Chosi`	`hey ckknight: i need a timer next to the distance indicator! (cart waypoints)`
`23:22.50`	`ckknight`	`Dewdrop is just dropdowns, Waterfall is a proper gui config dealy`
`23:22.52`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, so just an AceOptions table will do ?`
`23:22.58`	`ckknight`	`Chosi: it's being worked on`
`23:23.00`	`ckknight`	`cncfanatics: yea`
`23:23.03`	`cncfanatics`	`Waterfall is release ready ?`
`23:23.05`	`Chosi`	`ah kewlers`
`23:23.10`	`ckknight`	`it's 1.0 now`
`23:23.12`	`ckknight`	`I'd say yes`
`23:23.45`	`Garoun`	`basically Bar 2 has become a mirror image of Bar 1 but there isn't any paging turned on to cause that`
`23:24.13`	`cncfanatics`	`ckknight, i'll check into it later today, instancing atm, and still need sleep :p`
`23:24.37`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: I'd remove uiQuery("!FrameType" [, "name"] [, parent] [, "template"]) in favor of the :Create one`
`23:25.01`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`they share the same code base so I'm not sure I see the problem supporting both`
`23:26.17`	`Garoun`	`found it, for some reason Bar 1 was set to not page, yet it did`
`23:30.19`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r28309 10Voyeur/ (Voyeur.lua Voyeur.toc libs/):`
`23:30.19`	`CIA-17`	`Voyeur:`
`23:30.19`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Sorata to author tag, removed from X-credits.`
`23:30.19`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated externals, removed AceEvent, added DB, Hook, Console, OO`
`23:30.19`	`CIA-17`	`- Lots of additions/fixes/cleanup by Sorata - Hooking uses AceHook now, added console command for toggling moving of the inspect frame, improvements to reduce amount of inspect updates, etc.`
`23:35.34`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: I don't think it's a good idea to have multiple ways to do the same thing`
`23:35.58`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: also, it means then that ui(whatever) is access, where only :Create is creation`
`23:36.03`	`ckknight`	`instead of ui doing both`
`23:36.55`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten-Laptop: also, you planning on wrapping :GetParent() to turn into a uiquery object?`
`23:36.55`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`23:37.25`	`ckknight`	`also, I still don't understand your obsession with not using verbs`
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`23:44.37`	`kergoth`	`there's nothing wrong with multiple ways to do the same thing, if most are just syntactic sugar / wrappers for convenience. look at your acelibrary/aceoo convenience methods/__call's`
`23:44.43`	`kergoth`	`argh, this addon set reconstruction script is taking ages`
`23:44.46`	`kergoth`	`been going for hours`
`23:45.37`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: I understand that, I just don't see doing U:Create("Frame") to be less complicated than U("!Frame")`
`23:45.48`	`ckknight`	`especially if you use U("Frame") to access a frame`
`23:46.02`	`ckknight`	`so the distinction between access and creation gets hazy`
`23:46.39`	`trh`	`oh noes.. wowwiki.com is down :(`
`23:46.40`	`kergoth`	`i kinda like the ! version myself`
`23:47.11`	`ckknight`	`does DreamChat replace Prat?`
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`23:47.35`	`haste`	`DreamChat replaces the chatframes`
`23:47.40`	`haste`	`so indirectly, yes`
`23:47.57`	`ckknight`	`what should I use>`
`23:47.58`	`ckknight`	`?`
`23:48.07`	`haste`	`tekChat`
`23:48.32`	`ckknight`	`not on the svn`
`23:48.49`	`ckknight`	`too much effort if I want to use it if it's on gcode only`
`23:48.49`	`Amadeo`	`I like SimpleChatMods`
`23:49.26`	`Daemona`	`i always knew engineering was weird... but well... http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4035/doomwalker1bb3.jpg`
`23:49.58`	Funkeh`	`anyone else noticed that minimizing your game corrupts your icons?`
`23:50.05`	`Amadeo`	`Daemona: Did you see the video?`
`23:50.25`	`Amadeo`	Funkeh`: If you adjust your UIFaster setting it will fix it...I have mine on 2 now
`23:50.44`	Funkeh`	`its wierd`
`23:50.48`	Funkeh`	`the more you minimize`
`23:50.52`	Funkeh`	`the more icons fuck up`
`23:53.45`	Funkeh`	`whats teh default of the accelaration on Amadeo?`
`23:54.32`	`Amadeo`	`3`
`23:54.48`	`Amadeo`	`0 is off, 1 is Blizzard testing, 2 is partial, 3 is full`
`23:55.14`	`Amadeo`	`I didn't notice any difference between 2 and 3 besides my icons stopped breaking on alt-tabbing`

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