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00:01.05Amiancause there is no real reason imo to have 2 gather/share type addons cartographer would be enough :)
00:01.33break19well.. you've managed to accomplish more than me.. I couldnt even get it all imported.. I finally just replaced my lua files with some I found on the net with like.. 90% of the gathering nodes :P
00:01.51break19and manually merged them with info I already had.
00:03.22nymbiaAmian: they wouldnt display if they weren't loaded into cartographer's data set, _import doesnt allow carto to read from gatherer databases, it simply copies the data over.  make sure you dont crash out after getting the data imported.
00:03.48Amiannymbia: hmm lets try this again then
00:04.12Amiancause i just loaded everything and it showed fine all the 1.1mb gather file importet without glitches
00:04.29Amianthen i quit the game and cartographer_herbalism.lua was still like 115bytes..
00:05.49break19nymbia: has the import tool been updated to work with the gatherer beta? or .. how is it working now?
00:06.12nymbiabreak19: /shrug
00:06.46Amianoh and for those that followed last nights cartographer not recording new nodes problem with TinyTip activated.. seems TinyTip is hating / beeing hated also by gatherer/mapnotes..
00:07.37Amianfound 2 seperate tickets for gatherer and mapnotes on /trac
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00:15.56WobWorkbah
00:16.00WobWorkI left my lunch at home =(
00:18.06ckknightsuks
00:18.08ckknightsucks*
00:20.15Amiannymbia: no sucess with reloggin/quitting to have the imported data in cartographer gona try to share it with a guildmate now and let him redump after i disabled gatherer
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00:30.53KarlThePaganis there a good swing timer for warriors/paladins? something like "Joust" or Sorren's Timers but for more than just Auto Shot?
00:31.15KarlThePaganI should try sorren's first
00:31.58Chompershow exactly do i view the new changelogs?
00:32.14Chompersnotepad++ cant process them now
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00:35.21NightHawkTheSanea) they're just text files, any sane text editor can read them, though they are formatted as xml i believe. b) the changelogs are being removed from the zips anyway, i believe.
00:35.36Chompersgot it, just set notepads language to xml :P
00:36.18NightHawkTheSaneit doesn't autodetect? o_0
00:36.27Chompersnope, kinda odd
00:36.35NightHawkTheSanethats kind of silly
00:36.38Chompersthey're being removed from the zips?
00:36.57Chompersthats a damn shame, its great to see what the change are
00:37.21NightHawkTheSanethere ARE plenty of places to see changelogs, the google group, CIA, etc
00:37.49Daemonahehe 10 manning molten core out of boredom atm... hunter + pala belt already :X
00:37.51Chompersyeah, its kinda a waste of space in every zip
00:38.09Chompersbest to have them at one point for everyone to view
00:38.45NightHawkTheSaneyeah.
00:39.05NightHawkTheSanei do love the new latest.xml file though. it's made my update script much easier
00:39.17Chompersoh?
00:39.40KarlThePaganYea Sorren's timers doesn't have a swing timer for warriors :P
00:39.43NightHawkTheSanefiles.wowace.com/latest.xml an rss file with info on the addons
00:40.33Chomperswow, thats a really good idea
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00:43.33Legorolmorning folks, i have a Cartographer related question, is this the right place to ask
00:43.41WobWorkSurely
00:43.56Legoroldoes the Gatherer Import module actually works with latest Gatherer?
00:44.06Legorolhaving a hard time actually getting any data into Carto from Gatherer
00:44.29mjcload both at the same time
00:44.32mjcthen run the import
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00:46.04AmadeoNobody knows what happened to Tuller?
00:46.26CIA-1703benjib007 * r28041 10Meeuuuh/ (Core.lua Meeuuuh.toc changelog-1.3.txt changelog-1.4.txt): Meeuuuh: /moo for non-guildies
00:47.06Daemonanoooooo
00:47.06Daemonawe added a corehound and got wiped at 1% @ gehennas :(
00:47.42AmadeoYou doing MC with like 5 people?
00:47.50CIA-1703benumbed * r28042 10Epeen/ (15 files in 5 dirs): Epeen - Added Tracking by Tooltip/Target/Combat and some prework for other things.
00:48.05Daemonano with 9, but only 2 healers and no curse remover :D
00:48.25Amadeohehe
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00:49.22Daemonasomehow we had the crazy idea to farm our MT a Thunderfury ;)
00:49.42break19heh
00:49.43AmadeoDruids can't even use Swords!
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00:50.29break19warriors cant even use bearform! oh noez!
00:50.31TainEverytime someone equips a Thunderfury it should play AC/DC Thunderstruck.
00:50.32NightHawkTheSaneDaemona: that's cool :)
00:50.55TainThunder!  Na na na na nana na
00:51.12Daemonayeah and when i throw a grenade i want "i am TNT ... i am dynamite........"
00:51.13AmadeoI love these Vista "reviews" that are linked from Pro-*nix sites
00:51.40Amadeo"...analysts believe Windows Vista will take a bite out of Mac's market share."
00:51.46AmadeoReally? Isn't it the other way around? :P
00:51.50break19heh
00:52.23CIA-1703totalpackage * r28043 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: SetCandyBarIconPosition, line 930 'pos' -> 'position'
00:52.43mjcckknight: http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/24032
00:52.57CIA-1703benumbed * r28044 10Epeen/ (. EpeenLibs/Epeen-2.0/Epeen-2.0.lua): Epeen - Update Externals
00:53.02Daemonai just cloak of shadow "ancient hysteria"
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00:53.11Daemona:D
00:54.25WobWorkbah, that neverw orked for me
00:54.27WobWorkoh wait
00:54.34WobWorkdstun from the painpacksno it was the st
00:54.38WobWorkaiee
00:54.47WobWorkrandom cursor mismanagement =P
00:54.54Xueriano.0
00:55.03WobWorkno it was the stupid stun from the painpacks =P
00:55.20WobWorkthat I couldn't CoS out of
00:55.32Xuerian(Where's the latest wau.... <.<)
00:57.33ckknightmjc: what do I have to rip?
00:57.57Legorolckknight: may i pester you with my Carto question
00:58.11break19heh
00:58.17Legoroloh nvm, Amian asked already
00:58.22ckknightLegorol: nope, about to leave
00:58.49mjcckknight: just thought you'd find it neat.
00:59.02mjcmakes ipod format movies, too
00:59.12ckknightI don't have an iPod
00:59.43NightHawkTheSanemjc: well i find it neat. :)
01:00.20CIA-1703benumbed * r28045 10Epeen/EpeenLibs/Epeen-2.0/Epeen-2.0.lua: Epeen - qq
01:00.53mjcckknight: neat != personally useful always
01:01.18ckknightmeh
01:01.23ckknightgotta go to poly sci
01:01.35XuerianHave fun.
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01:10.44break19ah geez
01:10.51break19its gonna take 7 and a half hours lol
01:11.10break19maybe I shouldnt try to rip while playing wow :P
01:11.27break19pausing it til I log for the night :)
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01:17.53Daemonathis gonna be fun :)
01:18.06Daemonatank1 i take the adds, tank2 taanks garr, dps on garr
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01:18.35pb_ee1Is there a nice coder around here that is using ChatLog by any chance? :p
01:24.44Arrowmasterso only level 70 warlock in guild and i get asked to sit out for karazhan when 8/10 of the raid is made up of only 4 classes *sigh* atleast im still getting dkp for it
01:26.24Silverstorm_Arrow...they have dps covered then?
01:27.07Silverstorm_ah well, i'm out for gf aggro...v-day dance *sigh*
01:28.05Arrowmasteryeah but people were complaining about using up healthstones and pots on moroes trying to survive the garrote, but no healthstones this week
01:32.18CIA-1703ricowan * r28046 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc):
01:32.18CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
01:32.18CIA-17- Added code to prevent Titan from moving the minimap
01:32.50CIA-1703ricowan * r28047 10FuBar_PetFu/: FuBar_PetFu: -
01:33.03break19bah, he should be adding code to tell the users to get fubar instead :p
01:34.00break19"Titan Panel Detected: Titan has serious flaws which do strange things to my addon, please disable it, and/or replace it with FuBar from www.wowace.com" heh
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01:44.59NeoTronArrowmaster: seems odd to not bring at least one warlock if for no other reason than for health stones and imp buff on boss fights
01:45.10NeoTronnot to mention omgwtfbbq dps :)
01:45.31NightHawkTheSaneyou forgotcurses :P
01:45.35NightHawkTheSane<3 cor
01:45.52NeoTrontrue
01:47.43JohsBorketekcub: ping
01:47.51tekcubwhat?
01:48.28JohsBorkei'm getting a bug with tekKompare and bartender when hovering over an item in an action slot
01:52.03JohsBorketekcub: http://wowi.pastey.net/6675 is the exact error when hovering over a trinket
01:53.00CIA-1703tattersail * r28048 10IncomingHealsLib/IncomingHealsLib-1.0/IncomingHealsLib-1.0.lua: IncomingHealsLib-1.0.lua:478
01:55.56tekcubhrm... I think you have a misbehaving hooker JohsBorke
01:56.17tekcubdoes it work correctly elsewhere?
01:56.26rubikhey all.. what's a good replacement for itemrack? wardrobe? (i just need something that lets me define sets of gear and let me swap with hotkeys or slash commands)
01:56.43NightHawkTheSanewhat's wrong with itemrack?
01:56.51vhaarrrubik: You can try my ClosetGnome if you want.
01:56.53Xueriantekcub: maybe he's not paying it enough
01:57.34JohsBorkemy hookers misbehave all the time ;-)
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01:57.44rubikNightHawkTheSane: not really sure.. sometimes bugsack freaks out and shows tons of errors.. i mean, it works.. but i don't use any complex functionality.. was looking for something simple(r), i guess?
01:58.07JohsBorketekcub: yea, works fine when i click on things or in my bags
01:58.15JohsBorkedoesn't do anything on my character pain of course :-D
01:58.28tekcubya
01:58.30NightHawkTheSaneRubber: have you looked into itemrack2? its only in beta, and doesn't do events, but it doesnt sound like you use the event-based switching really
01:58.40bart_Hi , anyone working on a warlock addon ?
01:58.41tekcubhum
01:58.53tekcubso a trinket in BT3 eh?
01:58.57JohsBorkeyea
01:59.21rubikNightHawkTheSane: i'll check it out but i *might* need to swap gear on stance switches.. or at least i'd like the option to be there
01:59.21vhaarrrubik: It's on the SVN if you want to try it.
01:59.22tekcubdrop that stack dump on GCode for me and I'll toy
01:59.52NightHawkTheSanerubik: *nod* it's worth a look at least, It's rather nice
02:00.15rubikthanks.. i'll check out both for sure
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02:00.48Codayusrubik: I highly recommend ClosetGnome, personally.
02:01.10rubiki was just reading and it does seem like it has some pretty useful modules
02:01.22RaydenUniclosetgnome works for me
02:01.25RaydenUnii got it recently
02:01.28lysClosetGnome just works
02:01.43XuerianIt's up to personal preference - Both are coded well, they work, they have different features.
02:01.59NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: well said :)
02:02.05CodayusYep
02:02.07RaydenUnii mostly just use it for mount
02:02.19XuerianAnd if someone mentions IR2 isn't deuced, I'm going to reach through my monitor, pull that person into mine, and stab them repeatedly.
02:02.34rubikhehe
02:02.37CodayusWell, I hadn't been....
02:02.42Codayus...but now that you mention it...
02:03.03CIA-1703benumbed * r28049 10Epeen/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Epeen - Added Auto KoS
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02:12.47CIA-1703rabbit * r28050 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: BigWigs: Maiden: deDE update.
02:25.29JohsBorkebtw tekcub, i'm using the newest version from wowi
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02:26.18ilifinKemayo - auldlangsyne syncing isn't working properly still ;_;
02:27.01tekcublike I said, gcode
02:27.26JohsBorkeoh, erm
02:27.32JohsBorkesorry, running steamvault
02:27.35JohsBorkenot paying attention to chatroom
02:27.49tekcubwell pay attention if ya want shit fixed :P
02:28.00break19heh
02:29.46JohsBorketekcub: link?
02:30.21tekcubyou should know it by now, or read the big bright orange text on WoWI... noone reads that do they? :P
02:30.34tekcubhttp://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/issues/list
02:31.19JohsBorkei knew it was something with tek<???>-wow
02:42.56JohsBorkeoops
02:43.00JohsBorkeforgot to add the bug stuff
02:43.31JohsBorkeadded as a comment
02:47.31Xueriantekcub: Since when do people read anyway?
02:47.40tekcub:P
02:47.51Thorgardwtf, IR2 isn't Deuced.
02:47.57JohsBorkei read ;-P
02:49.03ThorgardWhat's with all the Barbie dolls man, what a-.. hey, put that knife do-AAAURGH! *dies*
02:49.36NightHawkTheSanemmm.. stabby
02:49.54XuerianNo one talks about my little people like that... <Wipes his dirk off on a nice red towel>
02:49.56art3misyour head smells like a puppy
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03:08.46CIA-1703benumbed * r28051 10Epeen/modules/Share.lua: Epeen - Fixed Typo
03:09.17tlundif I found a bug in Jostle-2.0, where should I report it?
03:11.14CIA-1703rabbit * r28052 10BananaDKP/ (. BananaDKP.lua BananaDKP.toc type/ type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Initial import, DKP system used by my guild, but with a pluggable DKP calculation mechanism, so it can be used by others -- except the addon isn't really usable yet, but hey.
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03:13.18Xueriantlund: To ckk when he gets back, here
03:13.32tlund~seen ckknight
03:14.05purlckknight <n=ckknight@198.199.136.119> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 12m 42s ago, saying: 'gotta go to poly sci'.
03:14.05XuerianHe's in class.
03:14.05break19but be careful.. he doesnt response well to bug reports :P
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03:14.05tlundwhat TZ is he in?
03:14.05CIA-1703rabbit * r28053 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua libs/): BananaDKP: Set svn properties.
03:14.05Xuerianshh break19, we don't tell the noobs we're feeding them to the lion.
03:14.05tlundits 4:13am here :)
03:14.05Solehe'll blame you first, before even looking at the code
03:14.06break19Xuerian: heh
03:14.22Sole~seen Nargidlley
03:14.25purli haven't seen 'nargidlley', Sole
03:14.25break19914pm here
03:14.29Xueriantlund: trac, then, maybe
03:14.29break19one 1
03:14.40Xueriantlund: He lives in Hawaii
03:14.49Sole~seen Nargiddley
03:14.51purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 21h 35m 41s ago, saying: 'hey'.
03:14.54tlundi have no idea what TZ hawaii is in :)
03:15.09Xueriantlund: I'd imagine it's around 5pm there
03:15.10break19~seen |Kev|
03:15.16purl|kev| is currently on #wowace, last said: 'ilifin: yes, that's a bit hard to read unless you're lisp or smalltalk happy :)'.
03:15.16vhaarrOrdog: okay, my DKP mod is committed now, if you want to take a look at it.
03:15.22vhaarrOrdog: I'm going to write a readme and todo now.
03:15.32break19it doesnt say how long ago he said it?? *cry*
03:19.04ilifinpurl wasn't here
03:19.11ilifinhe said lots more after that
03:20.16CIA-1703rabbit * r28054 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.toc libs/): BananaDKP: Forgot Roster-2.1.
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03:31.47Solehmm wtf
03:31.55Soletinsert is weird
03:32.16SoleI pass it a table, but it says registers as nil
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03:34.42JohsBorketinsert(<table>,<value>)
03:35.00Soleyeah I know
03:35.27Solelocal displayIndex  for i in pairs(self.spells.casts) do tinsert(displayIndex, i) end
03:35.58JohsBorkeit won't initialize a table for you
03:36.04tlund~seen Thrae
03:36.21purlthrae is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 3h 46m 51s, last said: '"You could have died!" "No, I was fine..."'.
03:36.21Soleit doesnt have to
03:36.21SoleI created a table already
03:36.24ilifinlocal displayIndex = {}
03:36.26ilifinrather
03:37.11Soledumbass
03:37.15SoleI always forget something simple
03:37.17Solethanks
03:37.45SoleI just realised I forgot the = {} while scribbling in omnibus and tab out to see youve got the same answer :P
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03:37.55JohsBorkedidn't i say it won't initialize the table? :-P
03:41.47ThorgardWTB: 'Hotfix' for the g'damn Shadowmoon Orcs. :(
03:42.08ilifin~seen teshnor
03:42.32purlteshnor <i=menion@h238n9c1o285.bredband.skanova.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 2h 36m 17s ago, saying: 'I'm not... I know I got problems, and I'm dealing with em :)'.
03:42.34ilifinwhats wrong with them, Thorgard ?
03:42.42CIA-1703rabbit * r28055 10BananaDKP/ (readme.txt type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Readme + bugfix.
03:42.52ThorgardThey keep resetting mid-fight. Evading back to their spawn spot..
03:43.31ilifinnever has happened to me o_o
03:44.21ThorgardIt's happening every damn fight for me. :/ I hate this quest.
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03:52.37xyuhow does /wayq work?  say i have 3 coords,  33,33 44,44 55,55 for simplictiy.  how do i make them queue up :D
03:53.23xyuif i type /wayq 33,33  it says "Waypoints: Waypoint Queue:      "
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04:08.23CIA-1703rabbit * r28056 10BananaDKP/readme.txt: BananaDKP: Added a communication flow description to the readme (not updated to the current code status).
04:14.38CIA-1703rabbit * r28057 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.toc todo.txt): BananaDKP: Added a incomplete TODO.
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04:23.08CodayusHmm, is there a relatively simple way to put an item link in a macro?
04:24.01Ordogvhaarr: i guess its DKPmon? will take a look at it tomorrow! sleeptime now :)
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04:25.30vhaarrOrdog: ?
04:25.39vhaarrI have no idea what dkpmon is
04:26.44Ordoguhm o k, only addon with dkp in its name i found on the svn so far
04:28.24Ordoglots of em in trunk
04:28.48vhaarrOrdog: okay, just had a look, and no, my addon is a lot simpler, and not nearly as flexible or advanced
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04:29.07vhaarrOrdog: you probably want dkpmon, I don't recommend anyone running banana at this time
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04:31.20JohsBorketekcub: any chance of being able to get teh version of tekKompare in game/in code?  i didn't notice the revision anywhere
04:31.45Ordogas you wish, will take a look anyway :)
04:33.44AdysIs there any actionbar addon that saves button positions clientside rather than serverside?
04:34.14AdysAs in just saving button positions on the screen rather than getting the same buttons
04:34.20Adys(ouch, that wasnt clear was it)
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04:38.05tekcubJohsBorke, meh
04:38.06tekcub:P
04:44.04tekcubI'll work something out for ya
04:48.59|Gngsk_anyone setup MSBT to scroll deadly poison charges like combo points?
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05:39.52tlundckknight: i found a problem with jostle, can you please have a look at my patch at http://ace.pastey.net/6677 and tell me what you think?
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05:42.40CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28058 10Prat/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Prat: Adds outbound chat core service, and the ChatSounds mod ported to the Prat framework.
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06:03.41PProvostSo how do I use this waypoints thing in cart?
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06:07.21CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28059 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules/Sounds.lua): Prat: sounds fixes and the new Substitutions mod, which supports a slew of % tokens such as %zon or %loc, chatframeextender2 has a whole bunch which i'll prolbably add in
06:08.10NightHawkTheSanePProvost: /way x y also I think /way <note to search for> works as well
06:08.54blindjimmyas I understand it, if you die it will point to your corpse too
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06:10.28tlundckknight: *poke*
06:10.58ckknightcommit up
06:11.51PProvostRight click, "Add to Waypoints", would rule.
06:12.31NightHawkTheSaneyou can do that too
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06:17.01PProvostNot as far as I can tell...
06:17.11CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28060 10Prat/modules/Substitutions.lua: Prat: commit of the module. too lazy to convert all the %'s right now, but the code from cfe2 is there
06:17.13PProvostMust be doing something wrong... unless this code just went in
06:17.36PProvostnvm
06:17.42PProvostworks now... just didn't last time
06:17.43PProvost:)
06:17.46NightHawkTheSanelol :)
06:17.52CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28061 10Prat/modules/ChatLink.lua: Prat: remove duplicate pattern
06:18.04WobWorkI hate flash
06:18.26WobWorkwith a fiery fiery passion
06:20.22CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28062 10Prat/modules/ChannelNames.lua: Prat: i think this is a partially finished optimization of the dynamic menu - commented out
06:21.56CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28063 10Prat/modules/FixBlizzardChannelUnhiding.lua: Prat: this one should no longer be needed so defaulting it to off
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06:26.21sylvanaarthere you go should get SCM and all the others a few more users
06:28.16CIA-1703funkydude * r28064 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua:
06:28.16CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden:
06:28.16CIA-17- various tweaks
06:28.30CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28065 10Prat/ (Prat.toc frames/who.xml modules/Who.lua): Prat: removed who
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06:34.04CIA-1703xuerian * r28066 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (5 files in 2 dirs): SpecialEventsEmbed: Added SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0. Documentation added to wiki.
06:34.50CIA-1703xuerian * r28067 10XLoot/ (XLoot.toc libs/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0/ localization.enUS.lua): XLoot: Remove temporary SEE-Loot. Add SEE/SEE-Loot to toc.
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06:43.35CIA-1703funkydude * r28069 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua:
06:43.36CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden:
06:43.36CIA-17- add icon placement
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06:46.45RetzyAnyone in here use GemList?
06:48.10PProvostYes, but I haven't used it much.
06:48.18CIA-1703xuerian * r28070 10XLoot/ (XLoot.toc libs/): XLoot: Note to self. When splitting libraries off into separate addons, remember to add them to the toc and svn:externals.
06:48.22RetzyIs it still working for you as of patch 2.07?
06:48.55RetzyI'm getting an .lua error and trying to track it down.
06:49.00PProvostHavent' logged in that toon yet
06:49.12PProvostSorry
06:49.58RetzyNo problem, just thought I'd ask.
06:50.50CIA-1703funkydude * r28071 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:
06:50.50CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:
06:50.50CIA-17- icon placement, curse on all players
07:00.32RetzyAnyone else?
07:04.20CIA-1703funkydude * r28072 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Moroes.lua:
07:04.20CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Moroes:
07:04.20CIA-17- tweaks
07:04.20CIA-17- swap blind warning for garrote warning
07:04.20CIA-17- icon placement
07:08.41neeneeHm. Tracked down wowheads' problem with my urlfilter.ini - somehow blocking */ads/* messes up wowhead
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07:18.08CIA-1703funkydude * r28073 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua:
07:18.08CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/RomuloJulianne:
07:18.08CIA-17- minor tweaks
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07:23.14bver_I just updated all my mods via wau, and everytime i use my macros i get a action blocked msg. Any idea on a solution?
07:24.34ckknightstop touching yourself at night
07:25.26bver_ok...
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07:26.32CIA-1703funkydude * r28074 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Attumen.lua Maiden.lua Moroes.lua):
07:26.32CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan:
07:26.32CIA-17- typos, its late..
07:26.40Funkeh`nn folks
07:27.03ckknightso I think we can all agree that Frodo and Samwise are totally gay for each other
07:27.26bver_it's  anytime i try to use my trinket, or even type  /use 13, it says FuBar called an action blah blah
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07:33.19bver_thansk for the help...
07:37.10ckknightyea, no idea
07:37.17ckknightit's not FuBar's fault
07:37.22ckknightfrankly, we don't know what causes it
07:37.27ckknightwhat is blocked, btw?
07:37.48nymbiaprobably just using the embeds from FuBar
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07:40.33bver_says FuBar has block an action only available to the blizzard ui, I disable that, try it again then it says ag_uf is doing the same
07:45.06ckknightonce again, what is blocked?
07:45.17ckknightyou need to install !BugGrabber and BugSack, I think
07:45.26bver_i have them
07:46.04ckknightso what's blocked?
07:49.31bver_http://ace.pastey.net/6695
07:49.37bver_thats the error im getting
07:52.26bver_i disabled prat
07:52.31bver_and now it works fine
07:54.05ckknightthat's something to inform the prat author(s) about
07:54.50art3misneato
07:55.00art3misjust figured out that my game pad supports timed macros
07:55.09art3misso i can put all my dots in a single button
07:56.23hasteMy guess is that it's against the EULA
07:56.31hasteyou might want to read it yourself and see first tho'
07:57.56art3misnope its a function of the keyboard ;P
07:58.18art3misand still requires me to be interactive with it ;P
07:58.46art3misbut if they wanna ban me over it thats their call i hit 70 ;P
07:59.12CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28075 10Prat/modules/Substitutions.lua: Prat: added matches for target hp, mp, level, gender, and the player's - focus not added yet, also has zon loc and pos, see Substitutions.lua for a list of tokens
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08:02.44sylvanaarhmmm...hooked in the wrong spot maybe
08:02.54Oridanmorning all!
08:02.56nee|workmorning
08:02.57nee|work;)
08:03.13Oridanoo this is exciting, my first time in here :P
08:03.45Oridanand guess what, i have a question ^^ hehe
08:04.21nee|work:)
08:04.25nee|workWell, spill it ;)
08:04.26Oridandoes anyone know how the zips are built for the with and without externals at files.wowace.com ?
08:04.47nee|workHm. Not I, but someone here must know :)
08:04.55Oridanare they developer built, or programatically i'm wondering
08:05.08Oridani've been up all night thinking about it *cry*
08:05.20nee|workoh
08:05.36nee|workProbably programmatically
08:05.59Oridanits all about the sub-revision numbers, and the patch i made for WAU to be able to use them
08:06.06NightHawkTheSaneyeah, a script does it every 20 minutes, afaik
08:06.11nee|workYup.
08:06.12Oridanahh nice
08:06.32Oridanwell, its not processing sub-revisions for no-ext zips
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08:07.06Oridanhttp://files.wowace.com/KingOfTheJungle/ - has KingOfTheJungle-r27510.1.zip thru KingOfTheJungle-r27510.4.zip
08:07.29NightHawkTheSanesub-revisions only indicate a change in libraries (thus externals)... so uh.. do the no-external zips even have sub revisions? o_0
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08:07.53Oridanahhhh is that right!
08:08.01Oridanin that case, i can do something about it
08:08.17Oridani'll just do a quick compare to make sure
08:08.32NightHawkTheSanefor the record, don't take me as absolute truth, i'm just going on what i know, which may be wrong :)
08:08.39Oridanhehe
08:09.18nee|work:)
08:09.46nee|workOridan: You might want to talk with lys, as he or she has created a command-line ace updater, using WAU libraries, which does work
08:10.05|Kev|hrmm
08:10.13|Kev|break19 wanted me last night, any idea what about?
08:10.14nee|work(why does it sound as if I have something against WAU each time I say that)
08:10.19nee|work|Kev|: Nope
08:10.27|Kev|ok, thanks
08:10.28nee|work|Kev|: That's what a log is for ;)
08:10.32|Kev|scrollback time
08:10.33|Kev|yeah
08:10.51jjb_good morning m?dels
08:11.15nee|workmorning
08:11.20|Kev|alas, he never said what he wanted
08:11.24Oridanwell, i always liked the wau updator, and its something i can actually play with :D
08:11.30Oridanmorning :)
08:11.40Oridanupdater*
08:11.51Oridani have this strange impulse to spell it with an 'o'
08:11.59|Kev|updatero
08:12.00jjb_the only i miss in the updater is a rollback function
08:12.02Oridanhehe
08:12.14|Kev|jjb_: I plan that for mau, at least :)
08:12.25NightHawkTheSanethat'd be kinda neat
08:12.32nee|workegh
08:12.35jjb_because the releases are mostly still a bit beta
08:12.50Oridanmm yea, that does sound nice
08:12.51nee|workjjb_: You said models and I typed models in the file I was editing :P
08:12.55nee|workNo wonder it didn't work as expected
08:13.02jjb_m?dels i typed
08:13.08nee|workWell, I see a ?
08:13.11nee|workI saw it as models
08:13.20jjb_m?dels = girls
08:13.22|Kev|nee|work: lalaalapoit. <Escape>:wq!<Enter>
08:13.35|Kev|I wonder if the geek level here is high enough for that to make sense
08:14.15jjb_i love vi too :)
08:14.15nee|worker, it reminds me of editing files in linux
08:14.30nee|workw = write, q = quit ! = without confirmation?
08:14.35|Kev|absolutely :)
08:14.46nee|workI used nano with highlighting
08:14.47|Kev|well, ! is force, really
08:14.49jjb_but iam only working on linux systems
08:14.51nee|workah
08:14.53jjb_its my job :)
08:14.58NightHawkTheSanedoes anyone else find them selves typing <esc>:wq in other text editors out of habit? >.>
08:15.03nee|worknope
08:15.05|Kev|NightHawkTheSane: yes
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08:15.17|Kev|and I find myself tying alt-. in editors
08:15.23nee|workBut I do type ls instead of dir now and then
08:15.30jjb_editing configfiles: dt"
08:15.30Oridanno, but i find myself typing <alt><space>cn a lot
08:15.31jjb_:)
08:17.17jjb_iam still searching for a good wowlua highlightning file for vim
08:17.59SunTigerEVIL vim IT BURNS
08:18.00|Kev|I use the TextMate mac editor these days for quite a lot of my work
08:18.05nee|workWhat do lod.bat files do in some packages?
08:18.21Fisker-eww
08:18.38|Kev|but I did recently reconfigure vim nicely, so I have a decent config there
08:18.54jjb_i use the standard gentoo config
08:19.25|Kev|I dislike gentoo, I especially dislike their habit of patching applications without the user knowing
08:19.45jjb_hehe
08:19.54jjb_my 2 workmates are gentoo-maintainer
08:19.55|Kev|"Hey there's a bug in feature X of your app"
08:20.09|Kev|'we don't even have feature X! we rejected the patch because it was too buggy'
08:20.16jjb_and they love to make patches :)
08:20.23NightHawkTheSane|Kev|: i keep trying to like textmate. but i just cant get used to it. :\ I always end up going back to bbedit.
08:20.41|Kev|NightHawkTheSane: I guess it's just one of those things
08:20.48NightHawkTheSaneprobably
08:20.59|Kev|I used, watched the 'casts of setting up snippets and fell in love with it
08:21.16|Kev|I find the author's ethics questionable, but it's still a lovely piece of kit to my mind
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08:21.26|Kev|if you'd like to like it, I'm sure I can help
08:21.27jjb_i use atm ultraedit
08:21.37|Kev|but at the end of the day, whatever works :)
08:21.58|Kev|right, to work, back in 30
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08:23.24Tupsi30min workshift? nice!
08:24.39nee|work:)
08:25.11nee|workNot if he has them every hour
08:31.37Oridanok that seems to be working now
08:31.57OridanWAU now ignores sub-revisions if updating without externals
08:32.33Oridani'm just math.floor'ing the revision number, that sound appropriate to everyone?
08:33.01Oridanjust gotta fix one little bug then we're sorted
08:35.34Oridanohh
08:35.37Oridanchangelog format has changed ?
08:35.50Oridanits xml now? :o
08:35.57Oridanis that a global change?
08:37.34NightHawkTheSanei believe changelogs are being removed from the zips in the future
08:37.43Oridanahh ok
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08:39.43CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28076 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Juat disabled the outbound hook for now while i fix the tainting issue again
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08:43.55Batosuit
08:44.20NightHawkTheSanefascinating. my life is infinitely better for having experienced that.
08:45.29Industrialchanged*
08:46.23Oridanits used by wau for getting the current revision atm
08:46.32Oridanif they're being removed, i need to find some other way hrmmm
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08:47.33NightHawkTheSanejust store it in a file?
08:48.30IndustrialNightHawkTheSane: how about.. a changelog? :P
08:48.42Oridani didnt really want to add to the distro is all
08:49.05NightHawkTheSaneIndustrial: *shrug* if they were there, that'd work, but if they're not, you can't do that ;)
08:49.11Adirelle|workchangelog wouldn't matter if the hundred previous ones were deleted
08:49.43NightHawkTheSanepersonally, i just store the info in a single file in the Addons directory
08:50.02Industrialidont seem to be seeing the problem, so never mind, back to work
08:50.47NightHawkTheSaneIndustrial: the "problem", if you call it that, is in the absence of an existing changelog file, how should wau track the current installed version of your addons. :)
08:50.57NightHawkTheSanebut its not really a problem
08:51.12SunTigermd5 hashes ?
08:51.27Industrialtoc data?
08:51.44Industrial#X-Revision, whatever :P
08:51.44SunTigertoc rarely change between svn updates
08:52.14NightHawkTheSaneIndustrial: if every addon had it, that'd be good.
08:52.16Adirelle|workwhat about adding sth to the "files" script to update TOC revision ?
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08:52.36IndustrialNightHawkTheSane: that can be done.
08:52.56Adirelle|workand this could be used by AceAddon class
08:53.13Adirelle|workbut... it won't work with SVN only update :(
08:53.42Adirelle|workbtw files MD5 is quite a good solution too
08:54.46NightHawkTheSaneI dont see the problem with just storing the revision number of installed addons in a file.
08:55.03NightHawkTheSane(client side, to be sure)
08:55.47Adirelle|workuser fiddling with addons...
08:56.12Adirelle|work(dunno if "to fiddle" is really a verb :D)
08:56.18nee|workit is
08:56.19SunTigeri am sure you can make the files server do a md5 and put that up
08:56.21NightHawkTheSaneeverything is a verb :)
08:56.25nee|workIt's like 'to tinker'
08:56.29SunTigerthe program does an md5 hash and compares
08:56.41Industrialbut then you can only say that its different
08:56.44SunTigergood for a backup check anyway
08:56.55NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: but a user fiddlign with their addons is going to muss up just about any kind of checking you do that doesn't record data locally
08:57.12Adirelle|worknee|work: okay, that's what I understood, I even succesfully used in the right sense :)
08:57.21SunTigerpeoplle that change their addons must accept that
08:57.23Adirelle|workNightHawkTheSane: except MD5
08:57.45Industrialpoepl dont look at their changelogs anyway
08:57.52Industrialthey care for having the lates addons
08:57.53SunTigeri do
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08:58.10NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: md5 is a dumb way to do it, if you ask me. If I change something locally, the md5 hash will change and wau will update it to the "new" revision
08:58.10Industrialim sure most dont
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08:58.34Industrialif you'd make em update manually with /files/ people are forced to check the versions themselves
08:58.41Industriallaziness ftl.
08:59.11Adirelle|workNightHawkTheSane: 1) add dumb .svn folder, 2) wau may check "X.noupdate"
08:59.12|Kev|Tupsi: no, 30min drive to work :p
08:59.29Industrialbbl
08:59.37CIA-1703sylvanaar * r28077 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: This hook will have to do for now for the outbound chat functions
09:00.29NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: honestly, for something that's supposed to be user friendly, those are poor solutions. If some "average user" is told "delete this module, its no longer needed" or "change these lines to fix a bug now, instead of waiting", they may not want to fuss with adding .noupdate files, or whatnot.
09:00.31Oridani'm just making wau insert a current.ver file, no use over complicating things like industrial said
09:00.34Adirelle|workNightHawkTheSane: btw actually, if I changed something locally and a new revision is available, WAU wil already overwrite the
09:00.37Adirelle|work+m
09:01.03NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: well if a true new version is available, overwriting is acceptable, i think. you're actually getting updated data then
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09:02.40Adirelle|workNightHawkTheSane: Oridan's solution is the best compromise (sense?) : not overcomplicated, not keeping hundred of changelog files, not overwriting any local changes
09:02.56NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: yeah, that's the best solution I think
09:03.12Adirelle|workand... zip independant (I think)
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09:03.21NightHawkTheSaneit should be.
09:03.48Oridanalso, if someone wants to temporarily "fix" an addon, it wont be overwritten until a newer revision is released
09:03.50NightHawkTheSanethat's what i do in my update script, I think i said, but I just store all the versions of my addons in an "addons.txt" file in teh Addons folder.
09:03.52jjb_a rollback feature is the best solution imo
09:04.11NightHawkTheSanejjb_: rollback wont address overwriting local changes
09:04.28NightHawkTheSaneits not actually a solution to anything that's been discussed in the past ten minutes.
09:05.49sylvanaarOridan did you already figure out that there is no such thing as a sub revision no-external zip?
09:05.58Oridanyea thanks :)
09:06.14Oridanjust did an UltraCompare on them ;)
09:07.28sylvanaarOridan WAU has already been updated, i think that PProvost wants to add something before releasing it
09:07.31NightHawkTheSanehm. now, do i want to watch "Messages from Earth", knowing i have to watch the next three episodes.. or wait until tomorrow. >.>
09:07.49Oridanohh nice, is there version control?
09:07.53Oridanjust that what i'm working on now
09:08.30sylvanaarhuh
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09:09.27Oridanchangelogs have changed, the naming convention in a few addons is different, instead of changelog-r*.txt its become ChangeLog-AddonName-r*.txt
09:09.36Oridanso some addons are updating every time
09:09.55Oridan"changelogs have changed" <-- lol
09:10.38sylvanaari coded everything yesterday, but since Kaelten rolled back the changes to the server there was no rush in releasing it
09:11.36krkadoes the changelog have a changelog then?
09:12.31sylvanaarhavent looked honestly
09:13.26Kaelteneasiest way to get the users back up and running
09:13.28Kaelten:)
09:13.34sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
09:13.45sylvanaarit works with both formats
09:14.06Kaeltenall I did was force the latest.tx files to only have revs in it not minor ones
09:14.28sylvanaarwhy
09:14.36|Kev|<PROTECTED>
09:14.41Kaeltento not break all old versions of WAU
09:14.52|Kev|I wonder if it breaks the new version of mau :)
09:14.57Oridanahh
09:15.03Kaeltendoes the new version use latest.txts?
09:15.04TheKarnjust blame Kaelten
09:15.08|Kev|did you rollback the index, or the changelogs, or both?
09:15.13TheKarnhe says he knows what he's doing but... i'm not so sure.
09:15.15|Kev|no, just the changelogs :)
09:15.26sylvanaaryes
09:15.47Kaeltenno just the contents of the latest.txts
09:15.47Oridanwont that mean that updating with externals doesnt get the newer libs ?
09:15.50Oridanwith wau i mean
09:15.51sylvanaarlatest.txt + local change log + descript.ion
09:16.11Kaeltenoridan yes until he updates to use the xml file instead
09:16.28KaeltenI also added old style named changelogs into the zips
09:18.15TheKarnhow do the old WAU's read latest.txt?
09:18.23TheKarndo they read the first word?
09:18.27TheKarnor the whole file?
09:18.45|Kev|Kaelten: ah, great, that means mau will work perfectly again :)
09:19.03Kaeltencontent first line I think
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09:19.12Kaeltennot sure though
09:19.17TheKarnwhy not make the second line the minor version?
09:19.46PHL-Chuckanyone know of an ace mod that does smart eating/drinking/bandaging? was using autobar but found it was hicing my system alot
09:20.25Oridanyou mean combat/non-combat based Chuck?
09:20.49chuckg_Oridan.
09:20.53Oridanzomg
09:21.01PHL-Chucknon combat, just want a way to do the stuff without looking around in bags
09:21.23PHL-Chuckputting on hotbar is an option but is clunky when your used to autobar
09:22.33Oridanhrm i guess, not sure of one in that case, was just gonna say a macro could use bandage in combat or drink+eat ooc
09:22.57Oridanbut thats not what you're after
09:23.01Oridan>.<
09:23.12PHL-Chuckthere a way to just say "eat" without picking a food?
09:23.37Oridancould maybe adapt KOTJ to do that
09:23.45PHL-Chuckwhats that
09:24.03Oridanits a hunter addon, kingofthejungle, for feeding your pet with whatever you have, one click thing
09:24.11PHL-Chuckoh :-)
09:24.27PHL-Chuckill give autobar another shot, maybe an option I can turn off to smooth it out
09:24.30Adirelle|work<PROTECTED>
09:24.45PHL-ChuckI guess its scanning inventory and everytime I loot something it has to update
09:24.45Oridanhehe
09:25.10PHL-Chuckusing older athlon 64 3000 guess its too slow now heh
09:25.13Oridanarg i gotta be going, thanks for the info, should be back soon :)
09:25.13Adirelle|workyep, but that's not the main concern
09:25.54Adirelle|workif Nargiddley ever makes sieve independant I'm sure it could be used with autobar :)
09:27.18PHL-Chuckwhat ever happened to mobinfo the one that actually was a database
09:27.28toddhas anyone else been having problems with discovered areas of the bone wastes in terrokar?
09:28.16toddnot sure if it's a blizzard problem or cartographer problem, but what I have discovered in the bone wastes is constantly changing
09:28.34Adirelle|worktodd: noticed it too, seems it changed with 2.0.7
09:28.36PHL-Chuckthink you can do ALT-M to see the other map
09:28.40PHL-Chuckto compare
09:29.00NightHawkTheSanetodd: yeah i noticed that before, but i haven't checked since 2.0.7
09:29.02PHL-Chuckmaybe not :-) just tried it
09:29.03toddin the regular map I've discovered it too
09:29.19nymbiai was noticing it before 2.0.7 -- i think foglight has the wrong info.
09:29.19toddit was like that before 2.0.7
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09:30.44mitch0re
09:33.04sylvanaarfor the editor discussion - i use editpadpro mostly, and ultraedit sometimes, epp has the best regex suppport of any editor i have seen
09:33.48mitch0regex support?
09:34.25NightHawkTheSaneany good editor should have full pcre support. :P
09:34.45mitch0you mean like :%s/this/that/?
09:34.49sylvanaaryeah, but this goes above and beyond
09:35.07mitch0I wouldn't touch any editor without that kind of regex support
09:35.44evlAnyway to discern the target in conjuction with UnitCastingInfo?
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09:38.04sylvanaarlike realtime evaluation of the regex as you type it hilights matches for example
09:38.50mitch0personallly, I hate that sort of stuff, even for "normal" searches...
09:39.44NightHawkTheSanewell, sometimes i'd like realtime highlighting, to make sure i'm getting non-trivial regexes right, but most of the time it'd be a little obnoxious
09:39.52NightHawkTheSanethe former case isnt a big deal, though
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09:54.54sylvanaarit was just an example of the level of support for regex the editor has
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09:56.18Tenrai..
09:56.33TenraiWrong Sun fellar.
09:56.36TenraiNo you're not.
09:57.23TenraiWell, damn.
09:57.28SunTigeryay
09:58.31CIA-1703shiftos * r28078 10AuldLangSyne/locales/esES.lua: AuldLangSyne: esES updated
09:59.20Tenraiò_ó
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10:02.07Adirelle|work*Zephyr is immune to sleep ("red" I said !)*
10:02.30SunTiger5 minutes and a half hour rollback later nobody remembers anything of what happend
10:03.24nee|work*fends off the boar with his pole*
10:06.20Industrialtee hee :P
10:08.57evlIndustrial: i had Cheat Death up, you faill :(
10:09.30Industrial:(
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10:40.15nee|workIt's quiet here
10:44.50SunTigerlalalalalalalalala
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10:45.45Industrialhammerfall \o/
10:46.09Industrialpandora radio owns, but too bad it doesnt know hardcore or jpop
10:46.10Industrial:P
10:46.23Industrialbetter at choosing good music then last.fm imo
10:46.48NightHawkTheSanehmm
10:46.51xyui haven't used it in some time.  i should check it out
10:47.05xyuThey didn't have many songs back then.
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10:47.10nee|workI don't like hardcore, trance, etc
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10:47.30ZiconWell, last.fm chooses music based on criteria defined by its users. For Pandora there are people actually listening to each song and classifying aspects of it rather than just saying they like it.
10:47.41nee|workBut, never mind my preference :)
10:47.46IndustrialSunTiger: --^
10:48.00xyuI need some good level grinding music
10:48.01xyu<PROTECTED>
10:48.03SunTigeryay
10:48.03evlpandora > last.fm
10:48.11xyugames' too boring by itself :P
10:48.15nee|workwow - ugly: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/herringprimarch/Crit.jpg
10:48.24evllast.fm is like the internet, everyone thinks MySpace is "e-mail" and thuse they label ALL music as pop/rock
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10:48.36CIA-1703elkano * r28079 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:48.36CIA-17PeriodicTable-3.0
10:48.36CIA-17- modified and fixed some parts of dataminer
10:48.36CIA-17- remined all tradeskill data
10:48.36CIA-17- fixed Tradeskill.Crafted and Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession basic sets to not include specialization stuff
10:48.36CIA-17- new set: Tradeskill.Crafted.Smelting
10:48.38CIA-17- Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession sets split up into specializations
10:48.49xyuI don't understand all these people with 20+ buttnos
10:48.53xyuDo they not use hotkeys at all?
10:48.57evli don't understand people with buttons :P
10:49.04evloCD + hidden bars ftw! :D
10:49.05xyuyou only need like one to judge range, and maybe any that have cooldowns
10:49.21xyui like to see the cooldowns
10:49.27Industrial1-12, shift, ctrl, alt.
10:49.27evloCD?
10:49.34CodayusMmm, I've got 24 buttons with keys bound visible on my screen...
10:49.34nee|workI use a lot of buttons too
10:49.42nee|worklet me get a screenshyot
10:49.42xyui use shift and alts and ctrl
10:49.48CodayusAnd I never actually click on them with my mouse.
10:49.48xyuand i use ESDF to move
10:49.51xyulets me have more hotkeys
10:49.53Industrialxyu: !
10:50.03Hjalteckknight: Is there a way to delete all notes created by #? It could be Corpseway for example..
10:50.07nee|workrats, I can't connect to my deksotp
10:50.08Industrialxyu: I use esdf :) well in shooter games, a is duck
10:50.09nee|work*desktop
10:50.10Nargiddley36 hotkeyed buttons for me, but all on screen. I prefer to have them visible
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10:50.16xyusame
10:50.20Kirkburnesdf? That's crazy talk!
10:50.22sbumorning
10:50.26xyuwell in FPS i kind of get whacky
10:50.27Industrialactually those keys have no letter on them on my keyboard
10:50.27nee|work36 on screen here too
10:50.30xyui use MOUSE2 for move forward
10:50.31xyuin FPS
10:50.35xyubecause of old quake days
10:50.51xyuS is backward D F are strafe
10:51.08nee|workI used wasd in quake/ut
10:51.15CIA-1703elkano 07PT3 * r28080 10Mendeleev/ (Set_Instances_41-60.lua Sets.lua):
10:51.15CIA-17Mendeleev
10:51.15CIA-17- removed the seven individual dwarves from BRD (loot is same as The Seven Dwarves)
10:51.15CIA-17- adjusted to new PT3 data
10:51.55nee|workseven dwarves?
10:52.00nee|workThe 'Rel ones?
10:52.08nee|workI thought they were five, not seven
10:52.14NightHawkTheSanemy shaman has... 40+ action buttons on screen?
10:52.53NightHawkTheSanetotems suck for reducing your action button usage. you just can't hotkey 20+ totems
10:53.00Nargiddley5 rows of 12 for me, most used
10:53.40Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/The_Seven nee|work
10:54.14nee|workoki, I was wrong then :)
10:54.14Kirkburn(my god, BRD has a lot of NPCs/bosses)
10:54.19nee|workI haven't done it in a while :)
10:54.32KirkburnSame
10:54.34NightHawkTheSaneBRD is a stupidly huge instance
10:54.45nee|workBut now that I think of it, I think I once noted in party chat that it was a reference to the seven dwarves as well :)
10:54.48NightHawkTheSanethe sheer scope of it is absurd
10:54.55KirkburnIn fact, I think I've done one BRD half run, and several to do the Onyxia quest only
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10:55.10KirkburnAwful design, too
10:55.36evlI read something about base resistance to anything is 5%
10:55.37NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn: eh, post-bar it was kinda neat. but everything before the bar sucked
10:55.39nee|workI wonder if I can solo some parts of it with my level 70 holy/disc priest now
10:55.41Kirkburnhalf the time I wonder where the hell I am and where the hell do I need to go#
10:55.47renchapfull brd with 2 lvl 70 and a 54 takes us 3 hours
10:55.54evlSo when I'm trying to hit something with poisons it has a 5% chance of resisting?
10:56.07NightHawkTheSaneKirkburn: yeah, for that reason, there were like 2-3 different paths to take, and it was a pain to find your way around
10:56.18NightHawkTheSaneevl: yes, I believe that's correct
10:56.28CIA-1703shiftos * r28081 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: esES updated
10:56.28KirkburnI've not done most of the instance due to the awfulness, so I couldn't comment ^^
10:56.38evlso a +4% to hit with say poisons = -4% chance of resist
10:56.39NightHawkTheSaneevl: unless you talent it down ( i believe rogues have a talent that reduces chance poisons are resisted,  Master Poisoner?)
10:56.41evlam I correct?
10:56.53CIA-1703shiftos * r28082 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
10:56.53CIA-17Babble-2.2:
10:56.53CIA-17- esES updated
10:57.03NightHawkTheSaneevl: i think, yes, though the spellhit/resist mechanics are not my area of expertise :\
10:57.10xyutime for valentines crap. be back later.  walletless no doubt.  
10:57.17nee|work:)
10:57.17evlI'm just debating wether Improved Poisons 2/5 = +4% to apply is equal to Master Poisoner 2/2 = -4% to resist
10:57.19nee|workYou're late though :P
10:57.32krkahmm... would you people say it's important for a deformat to return numbers instead of strings, for %d type arguments?
10:57.32evlI mean it is
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10:58.17NightHawkTheSaneevl: hmm. mathematically speaking, I'm not sure.
10:58.41NightHawkTheSaneevl: Imp.Poisons increases the proc rate for your poisons, IF a poison procs, it then has a chance to be resisted.
10:58.45krkaevl: i think so
10:58.46evlyeah
10:58.48NightHawkTheSaneevl: so i'm not sure how those correlate
10:59.09krka+4% is converted to a factor, and -4% is converted to its inverse
10:59.11NightHawkTheSanei bet you could calculate it reasonably easily.. *ponder*
10:59.26krkathen all factors are multiplied together
10:59.28krkaafaik
11:00.01evlisn't resist and hit inverses of eachother?
11:01.26NightHawkTheSanemaybe i'm wrong.. but the chance for your poison to have effect (using IP as an example) is .2 * .95 = .19
11:01.53Nargiddley4% to apply will be better than -4% resist chance i think
11:02.01NightHawkTheSaneso the imp. poisons talent (assume 2/5 for this argument) makes it.. (.2 + .04) * .95 = .228
11:02.28NightHawkTheSaneif that were -4% resist chance (and we'll assume +4% hit chance is the same), that's .2 * (.95 + .04) = .198
11:02.34NightHawkTheSaneso it's clearly not the same thing
11:03.33NightHawkTheSaneIn other words, assuming my math is correct, +1% chance to apply poisons is better than -1% chance for poisons to be resisted
11:15.55CIA-1703shiftos * r28083 10EnchantList/localization.lua:
11:15.55CIA-17EnchantList:
11:15.55CIA-17- esES updated
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11:17.55sbihi
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11:19.59sbii lost my credit card :(
11:20.13sbigeez that's not a good day :|
11:20.31Elkano:/ you have it locked by now, haven't you?
11:20.58CIA-1703shiftos * r28084 10FuBar_NinjutFu/ (FuBar_NinjutFu.toc Locale-esES.lua):
11:20.58CIA-17FuBar_NinjutFu:
11:20.58CIA-17- added spanish (esES) translation
11:22.30evlNightHawkTheSane: thanks a lot fo the math :)
11:22.41NightHawkTheSaneevl: sure :)
11:24.31sbiElkano, i did
11:24.45hastehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc :3
11:25.06Elkanosbi, ok than it has no use for me anymore ;)
11:25.35sbiElkano, lol!
11:25.35Elkanohope noone gets to use it before they do lock it down
11:26.30Elkanowell... g2g... japanese reading examn... l8erz
11:27.01sbiargh..
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11:32.57nee|worksbi: Misplaces where you live? or lost in the street?
11:33.32sbinee|work, i don't really know :(
11:33.41sbii hope the former
11:35.28nee|workoki
11:37.10|Kev|Rycochet: what do you mean?
11:37.24Rycochetstarted it, got nothing in the list - how do i populate it?
11:37.34|Kev|no list at all?
11:37.40Rycochettotally empty
11:37.45|Kev|or just no local versions?
11:37.46|Kev|odd
11:37.59|Kev|do you use a proxy to connect to the internet or such?
11:38.01Rycocheti've got 30+ ace addons installed
11:38.12Rycocheti'm on a lan, but a direct connection
11:38.30SunTiger30 hah
11:38.34SunTigertry close to a 100
11:38.38SunTigerthast hardcore man.
11:38.49|Kev|sorry, to check, there are no addons listed at all, it's just one big white space? (Rather than it lists mods, but tells you you have none installed)
11:39.30Rycocheti've just pruned them, down to 124 in total, but not a clue how many are ace ;-)
11:39.38Rycochetit's a blank space
11:39.51Rycochetcan get that web page in the browser no problem
11:39.52|Kev|can you hit the rescan button?
11:40.06Rycochetdidn't work
11:40.11Rycochethrm... i think i see something
11:40.14|Kev|odd
11:40.21|Kev|and you haven't changed the URL in the config?
11:40.23Rycochetgot LittleSnitch installed - and it didn't popup and ask
11:40.33Rycochet1 sec to manually allowe
11:40.34|Kev|what's littlesnitch?
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11:41.47NightHawkTheSane|Kev|: it monitors outbound net connections and can alert you to anything that attempts to initiate one.
11:41.57|Kev|NightHawkTheSane: ah, ok :)
11:42.22Rycochetlets you filter what you want to let through or not - it'd autoamtically let it connect to port 80, but that made no difference
11:43.44Rycochetnope, even turning the thing off makes no difference
11:43.52|Kev|how very odd
11:43.56|Kev|and you're running 10.4?
11:43.58Rycochetseems to take a long time trying to do something, but does nothing
11:44.01Rycochet10.4.8
11:44.25|Kev|and you've checked the URL in the preferences can be reached in a browser?
11:44.30Rycochetyep
11:44.43|Kev|have you tried http://files.wowace.com/ instead of the mirror?
11:45.40Rycochetsame thing
11:45.52|Kev|how terribly odd
11:46.00Rycochetone possibility - has it got any timeout or anything, as my connection speed can be *sloooow* at times
11:46.03|Kev|it sounds like something is blocking the traffic
11:46.13|Kev|it'll have a timeout, yes, set by the system
11:46.18|Kev|but it shouldn't be that long
11:46.21|Kev|erm
11:46.22Rycochetit goes for about 5 seconds normal, then the little busy cicrle thing for 5 seconds
11:46.23|Kev|*that shourt
11:46.33|Kev|the little busy is it trying to get the list
11:46.42Rycochetweird
11:46.52|Kev|it really does sound like something is blocking the traffic
11:46.53Rycochetvery weird
11:47.10Rycochetlet me even turn off the firewall etc
11:49.08Rycochetnope, even when i let everything through there's nothing
11:49.34|Kev|how terribly bizzarre
11:49.35Rycochetok - mac mini, connecting to my router via airport
11:49.43Rycochetwhich does everything else ok ;-P
11:50.08|Kev|have you tried restarting mau? shouldn't make any difference, but...
11:50.09Rycochetlol, talk about finding a bug and not having a clue whether it's the software, system, or time of day ;-P
11:50.11|Kev|oh wait
11:50.18Rycochetrestarted several times trying different things
11:50.18|Kev|what version are you using?
11:50.22Rycochet0.3
11:50.25|Kev|oh
11:50.27Rycochetthe one on google
11:50.30|Kev|why didn't you upgrade when it asked you?
11:50.37Rycochetit didn't ask me to
11:50.40|Kev|hrmm, the one on google's 0.3.1
11:50.58|Kev|because it fixed a problem where the list wouldn't populate due to the new index format :)
11:51.12Rycochetdoh
11:51.15|Kev|how odd - when it asked you if you wanted to check for updates at startup, did you say no?
11:51.41Rycochetok, refreshing my cache helped...
11:51.55Rycochetdon't remember it asking tbh
11:51.59|Kev|anyway
11:52.04|Kev|quickest way to upgrade
11:52.13|Kev|just to the menu and 'check for updates'
11:52.45Rycochetconsidering i only grabbed it a day or two ago it didn't even cross my mind ;-P
11:53.06Rycochetand after all the stuff in channel about the list format i can't believe i didn't try that
11:53.30|Kev|well, there's still the potential that it's an unrelated issue
11:53.38|Kev|so you can save off that for a short while :)
11:54.11Rycochetand we have a list! :-)
11:54.16|Kev|\o/
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11:57.28Rycochet(even though it's singular so far)
11:58.37Rycochetthanks for that |Kev|
11:58.48|Kev|np :)
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12:00.33Rycochetwhat's a good svn package for osx, for the lazy among us ;-)
12:01.10CIA-1703darchon * r28085 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
12:01.10CIA-17Babble-2.2:
12:01.10CIA-17- Updated locales koKR
12:01.31|Kev|Rycochet: I just use svn from fink
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12:02.52Rycochetwas meaning something that lets me stay away from the terminal ;-)
12:03.05Rycochetit's not that i've got anything against it, i'm just lazy ;-)
12:03.32Rycocheti could always do a bundle for textmate (my editor of choice)
12:03.56|Kev|tm has an svn bundle
12:03.59|Kev|I'm certain of it
12:05.03Rycochetprobably - but you need svn installed to install them easily - and i'm downloading it now ;-0
12:05.05Rycochet;-)
12:05.22|Kev|are you sure the svn bundle isn't bundled with tm?
12:05.25|Kev|I guess it might not be
12:05.50Rycochetdoh, they've called it Subverion - and i was looking for SVN
12:06.02Rycochettalk about having a bad day
12:06.29Rycochetnext i'll probably get a ho9le in my slippers, and find we've spilt something in front of the fridge with my big toe...
12:06.43|Kev|a ho9le, eh?
12:06.55Rycochetyeah, like a hole, only gets the other 9 toes too
12:06.58Rycochet;-)
12:07.04|Kev|on both feet? :p
12:07.10Rycochetit's quantum
12:07.12Rycochet;-P
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12:12.04NightHawkTheSane"It's like i've always said, you can get more with a kind word and a two by four than you can with just a kind word."
12:12.14wobinKemayo: Is it possible to have WAup.py echo to the terminal?
12:12.51axxouse the code luke
12:13.52wobinyeah, but it's python
12:13.56wobinIt scares me
12:14.02axxoits fun & easy
12:14.15wobinBah, I doubt it
12:14.32axxoprint "easy"
12:14.57NightHawkTheSane.. YOU'RE fun and easy!
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12:16.52wobinbah
12:17.06wobinI was hoping I could use the logging object to send both to terminal and file
12:17.11wobinbut they appear exclusive
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12:26.20hastetoast and some drink named "mana" don't mix very well
12:27.51|Kev|Rycochet: I think you having svn access today would be potentially fatal :p
12:28.48Rycochethrm... just thinking about my PricePer - i've got it to show bid & buyout price in a format like "(0g 0s 0c -> 0g 0s 0c)" - with the bits around being coloured, just trying to decide how i should choose on colour ;-)
12:29.32Rycocheti'd only be putting PricePer up until i got my bag addon to a useable beta state ;-)
12:29.37Rycochetshould i set the -> to green if the bid price is a lot lower, or should it be the same colour as the brackets?
12:30.20Rycochetand how should i choose the colour- i can use informant to get the vendor price if it's installed - but that's no good if you've not seen it before - and not found how to get the prices from auctioneer yet
12:30.35Rycochetdecisions decisions... ;-)
12:31.13Industrialtheres already addons that separate the price into 2 columns with sorting
12:31.18Industrial>_>
12:32.16RycochetFence does that, this doesn't do any sorting though, just adds the price under the item name like PriceEach
12:33.16Rycochetthink i'll just give it a normal option for a static gold value to check against
12:33.40Rycochetkeep things simple ;-)
12:33.51SunTigersome suggestion thread i made, any comments or further suggestions ? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=154265429&postId=1542615460&sid=1#0
12:36.48CIA-1703shiftos * r28086 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: esES updated
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12:38.06Rycochetnot made a rogue yet so can't comment on it - it's the only char i want to make yet ;-)
12:43.37CIA-1703gagorian * r28087 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua):
12:43.37CIA-17DrDamage:
12:43.37CIA-17-Should now take into account arcane blast debuffs in DPS calculation.
12:44.04wobinhum
12:44.15wobinCart_noteshare is complaining about a lack of securehook
12:44.32wobinBut it's trying to hook a Cart_Note function
12:44.43wobinI didn't know we could secure our own functions
12:45.34_neuron_does closetgnome have an itemrack like feature for trinkets (alt click on an item to get a menu, mouseover = change between the items you have)
12:45.34_neuron_I've gotten sooo used to switching trinkets like that
12:48.49KinkxIs there any way to turn off Corpse-way in Cartographer? It's kind of buggy, the range doesn't update unless you open up your map, and it's also impossible to clear the waypoint
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12:49.17wobinKinkx: I'm working on it as we speak
12:49.35KinkxCool :)
12:49.48CIA-1703lordrhys * r28088 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (3 files): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: 2.1.8 - updated Item Count routine for Inv, updated some spelling errors
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13:04.58CIA-1703rabbit * r28089 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Moroes.lua: BigWigs: Moroes: Only set the icon on the right sync.
13:06.14CIA-1703zuno * r28090 10UnitActionBars/ (15 files in 3 dirs):
13:06.14CIA-17UnitActionBars:
13:06.14CIA-17- Made unit status pluggable components. Requires setting the status values up again for each Action
13:06.14CIA-17- Added "Low Health" and "Main Buffs" unit status types.
13:06.14CIA-17- Added threshold for health and mana status types.
13:06.14CIA-17- Added class filter on "Main Buffs" unit status types.
13:06.46CIA-1703zuno * r28091 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc:
13:06.46CIA-17UnitActionBars:
13:06.46CIA-17- Updated to current revision.
13:07.25wobinokay
13:07.37wobinI reckon I've fixed CorpsePoint
13:08.06wobinAlthough I have to find out how to force a refresh on the mapicon
13:09.29neeneeHello again
13:11.12Adirelle|workwobin: :RefreshMap(true) ?
13:20.29yacoobright
13:20.38yacoobwhich wau should we use now?
13:20.59Industrial#wau
13:21.13wobinAdirelle|work: Nope =(
13:21.55CIA-1703rabbit * r28092 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: BigWigs: Maiden: Fix icon placement.
13:22.17[Ammo]~seen sylvanaar
13:22.38purlsylvanaar is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 3h 27m 44s, last said: 'it was just an example of the level of support for regex the editor has'.
13:22.52neeneeI logged in and just got 'Too many worldmap overlays' - What's that?
13:23.16Industrialcut down on the worldmap overlays a bit, neenee. (i have no idea)
13:23.21Industrials/down/back/
13:23.51sbipurl >>
13:24.40neeneeIndustrial: :)
13:25.21wobinhm
13:25.22neenee'Too many WorldMap Overlays' error when opening the BG MiniMap.
13:25.22neeneeThis is a Blizzard bug, they added dynamic texture creation to the WorldMap but forgot to add it to the Battlefield Minimap.
13:25.22neeneeOpen your world map before entering the BG and you should be fine.
13:25.34neeneethough I was not in nor anywhere near BG
13:25.46wobinAll the worlds a BG
13:26.01wobinand the men and women merely cannon fodder
13:26.47sbiouch
13:27.11sbitoday, it's Struts Hatred Day here
13:27.28Industrialstruts, hmm.. wasnt that a java webframework?
13:27.54sbiIndustrial, java-mvc-web-framework, yes
13:28.18Industrialim stuck poking in someon elses 3 year old pph4 code :(
13:28.29Industrialinternal projects ftl
13:28.41neeneeI'm working on a database system from '92
13:28.48neeneeSo I think that's worse
13:28.49Industriallol
13:29.04neeneeBut I have weekend now :D
13:29.09neeneeSo in that sense you're worse off :)
13:29.24Industrial2:30 to go :p
13:29.47neenee:)
13:29.48sbiphp4... curse you hakkar
13:29.51neeneemeeting this evening though
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13:30.07Adirelle|workI'm stuck trying to parse logs of program done by someone that finds primary and foreign keys overcomplicated
13:30.36Industrial>-o
13:30.42Industrials/-/_/
13:30.45Industrial:D
13:32.21Adirelle|workdid I mention he find them useless btw ?
13:32.33sbiAdirelle|work, lol
13:33.09sbiAdirelle|work, you could explain what referencial integrity is by removing his arms, legs and such
13:33.43Adirelle|workthe database the program is getting input data from looks like a pile of excel worksheets
13:34.00Industrial*weep*
13:34.04Adirelle|workand I have to use both database and program output to produce meaningful statistics
13:34.06sbii don't envy you :D
13:35.14Adirelle|workwell, I managed to convince the project leader that referencial integrity is *required*, so it asked him to add them
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13:36.13sbiAdirelle|work, and he said: "you can do it" ? :p
13:36.54CIA-1703nevcairiel * r28093 10Bartender3/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: support for fading of bars, fade out and fade in on mouseover.
13:37.00neeneeI love flying :)
13:39.06CIA-1703rabbit * r28094 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (10 files): BigWigs: Karazhan: Minor tweaks.
13:39.24CIA-1703wobin * r28095 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (CorpsePoint.lua WayPoint.lua Waypoints.lua): Cartographer_Waypoints: Fixed CorpsePoint so you can cancel the waypoint if you want. Also made response time much faster in showing the skull
13:40.59vhaarrnevcairiel: cool
13:44.43nevcairielfinally one thing of my list
13:45.17sbii don't want to see any skulls! :p
13:45.21sbinot mine at least!
13:45.30wobinsbi: You've been overruled by majority =P
13:45.33nevcairielheh
13:45.39CIA-1703gagorian * r28096 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Warlock.lua DrDamage.lua):
13:45.39CIA-17DrDamage:
13:45.39CIA-17-Added dark pact, added heroism/bloodlust (again), added positive/negative charge with exception for naxxramas (it's 100% in mechanar heroic, 10% in naxxramas).
13:45.58nevcairielwhats the duration of that draenei HoT?
13:46.03HjalteWobin: I still have nightmares about seeing other peoples skulls all over netherstorm >.< I'll only see others skulls, if they are using old corpseway now, right?
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13:46.22CIA-1703rabbit * r28097 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua:
13:46.22CIA-17BananaDKP: If we get some leader set rejections, don't set ourselves as the
13:46.22CIA-17leader, but don't require anyone to accept us either. Also set the network to
13:46.22CIA-17valid after a version ping timeout, so that the mod works standalone.
13:49.02sbi<lurker> BUFF CAN BE DISPELLED. SOCKETS ARE FOREVER !
13:49.04sbilol
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13:50.23CIA-1703nevcairiel * r28098 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
13:50.23CIA-17Babble-2.2:
13:50.23CIA-17- BS: Added Gift of the Naaru (Draenei Racial)
13:50.47CIA-1703nevcairiel * r28099 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: added support for Gift of the Naaru
13:52.45wobinHjalte: Indeed
13:52.59wobinAnd in fact, I might break CorpseWay's functionality
13:53.25wobinsbi: You saw that ad? =)
13:53.45sbiwobin, be my valentine! oh no, wait, you are an orc!
13:54.02wobin=(
13:54.23Industrial(that means im a loser and have no gf)
13:55.19sbiIndustrial, oh, you are a programmer, you play wow, you have no time for a gf, get used to it :p
13:55.56Industrialyeah last time i had a gf was like.. oh i have to count... 5 years ago, and i was 15 :P
13:56.13neeneeI have a girlfriend though, but I'm more of an analyst
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13:57.05sbineenee, than she plays wow :P
13:57.21neeneeyup
13:57.26neeneeI met her in Scholomance
13:57.34mitch0lol
13:57.37sbiLAL
13:57.45neeneeShe wasn't one of the mobs though :)
13:57.52nevcairiellol
13:58.05mitch0bash.org? :)
13:58.05sbi"oh, dear... you remind me of dead corpses and such"
13:58.12nevcairielthats gotta be funny some times .. "do you still remember when we first met"
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13:58.40neeneeWe started talking about how advanced enough technology is indistinguishable from magic and shared star-trek, dune and other sci fi/fantasy quotes, so it was a good start from there ;)
13:58.43Silviu-nevcairiel nice addition, thx :)
13:58.45neenee:)
13:58.50sbi"sure there was that noob mispulling everything and allways standing in poisons clouds, do you remember?"
13:58.52Silviu-with barfade
13:58.55neeneenevcairiel: I was thinking of writing something to Blizzard as thanks
13:58.57neeneehehe
13:59.12sbi:E
13:59.39neeneeThere was a ninja indeed, and we still smile and say 'smoking kills', when we see one of those green ghouls ;)
13:59.49sbineenee, times ago there was a news in worldofwarcraft.com about 2peop got married in wow .D
14:00.02neeneeOh yea, I read about that
14:00.10neeneeThey were very quick, even had a child
14:00.20neeneeBut I bet they lived in the same country though
14:00.28Industrialyou dont?
14:00.28nevcairielsimplifies things
14:00.28nevcairiel:D
14:00.33sbineenee, that proves you can do big mistakes even when playing a game :P
14:00.49Industrialpff, out of my town is too far for me, then again, no car..
14:01.17sbiexplosions, i need more explosions!
14:01.25Industrialill get a car when it runs on water
14:01.50mitch0sbi: did you have time to take a look at SpellCaster? I'm interested in constructive criticism :)
14:01.56neeneeIndustrial: Nope. But at least she only lives in the UK, and not somewhere in Servia
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14:02.04Industriallol
14:02.14Industrialand you?
14:02.14nevcairieldepends where you live
14:02.15nevcairieltho.
14:02.18sbimitch0, i'm sorry :| still not
14:02.23neeneeFlat, flat holland
14:02.30mitch0sbi: guessed so :)
14:02.38Industrialeeej nog een kaaskop :P
14:02.47neeneeer, indeed
14:02.52Industrial=)
14:02.56neeneeThough I prefer English and am far from a patriot :P
14:02.57mitch0sbi: nobody is really interested in other ppls code :)
14:03.04Industrialsame :o
14:03.04nevcairielyou are all cheeseheads
14:03.05nevcairiel:)
14:03.22sbimitch0, that's not true..
14:03.26Adirelle|workwobin: are you adding general notes for corpse/temp waypoints ?
14:03.28drinHollander ; )
14:03.29neeneeDum dee dum
14:03.29drinhehe
14:03.37sbimitch0, i read much more code then i write
14:03.40CIA-1703rophy * r28100 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: (log message trimmed)
14:03.40CIA-17ParserLib-1.1
14:03.40CIA-17- Major code cleanup.
14:03.40CIA-17- Changed client handler table structure.
14:03.40CIA-17- keywordTable will be tested on load, incorrect entries will be removed.
14:03.40CIA-17- Fixed ConvertPattern() to work on more complex formats which appeared in koKR GlobalStrings.
14:03.42CIA-17- Optimized trailer parsing, numeric type conversion, patternInfo loading.
14:03.43drinneenee, a friend of mine met a girl ingame too : )
14:03.45trhneenee: sure would be interesting to see a gm-response to that.
14:03.50drinshe moved from spain to NL : )
14:03.52Industrialactually holland is only two provinces of the netherlands - the cool provinces though :P
14:04.03wobin=P
14:04.09kenlyric|workdamn, over 100 updates that I don't have!
14:04.11trhneenee: i meant to the thanks letter
14:04.15wobinAdirelle|work: What has been my philosphy on the topic so far? =P
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14:04.23trh(scrolled a bit up :)
14:04.31neeneetrh: Yup, I'd hope something genuine and non-scripted
14:04.35neeneedrin: :) Cool :)
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14:04.42drinyou living together now too?
14:04.44Adirelle|workwobin: huh ?
14:04.46neeneedrin: It's a sure-fire way of meeting someone with at least some of the same interests
14:04.49neeneedrin: Not yet.
14:05.11wobinAdirelle|work: This whole time I've been against using actual notes for waypoints =P
14:05.16trhneenee: i think the response would be more like "We are aware of this problem and it will be fixed in a later content patch by not being able to talk while in a instance" or something ;)
14:05.18neeneedrin: I'll be going there for 10 days in about 20 days again though, but living together has to wait a bit as we're too busy with other things at the moment
14:05.22wobinas I've always envisaged waypoints to be temprary things
14:05.24neeneetrh: hehe.
14:05.54wobinAdirelle|work: So, while it may -appear- I'm using notes to show corpses/etc, nothing is being saved to the general notes database.
14:05.57wobinyet
14:06.03sbineenee, you mean.... getting Revered with Sha'Tar, isn't it? :P
14:06.05Adirelle|workoki
14:06.17trhneenee: be aware that LDR sucks
14:06.20Adirelle|workbut may it proc :NoteAdded ?
14:06.21drinneenee: well im glad my girl plays WoW too :D would be a hassle if she did not : )
14:06.21wobinIt's how waypoints -should- have been done
14:06.29wobinAdirelle|work: It shouldn't
14:06.34yacoobis postal ready for use, or should I use gmail?
14:06.38wobinUnless there's a metatable I'm not seeing
14:06.39neeneedrin: :) I can imagine
14:06.44Adirelle|workyacoob: postal works
14:06.47wobinSince I insert directly into the db table
14:06.58neeneesbi: lol. Nah, just some real-life things like study/work
14:07.05Adirelle|workok, was wondering about your corpse skull spamming issue
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14:07.32yacoobright, next: is kc_items already ported to ace2, or not? :)
14:07.34wobinWhat corpse spamming issue?
14:07.36wobinThese are not the skulls you are looking for.
14:07.50sbiwobin, show me your lightsaber :P
14:07.50Adirelle|worker wait
14:07.54Industrialwobin: :D?
14:08.01[Ammo]yacoob: there is a branch that is 50% done or so
14:08.04wobinsbi: well =\
14:08.07[Ammo]kaelten is slowly working on it
14:08.13wobinsbi:  I expect dinner and a movie first, at least!
14:08.15yacoobI see.
14:08.19Adirelle|workwobin : => http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4759.msg82978#msg82978
14:09.02Adirelle|workwobin: adding general note in corpseway + noteshare => broadcast everyone where you died :/
14:09.04wobinAdirelle|work: CorpseWay. Not CorpsePoint
14:09.13wobinThat was hyper's work =P
14:09.16wobinYou can blame him =P
14:09.19[Ammo]hehe
14:09.48wobinWell, he's sedated atm =P
14:11.09trhthat epic flying mount was worth the 5200g
14:11.17trhits so fast :)
14:11.27mitch0wobin: can I find a screenshot of this waypoint thingy somewhere?
14:11.35|Kev|I don't have anything like the money for an epic mount
14:11.35neeneetrh: Nice ;)
14:11.36sbitrh, i agree .p
14:11.54|Kev|so anyone who uses MAU and wants to say thanks for it - donations appreciated ;)
14:12.07wobinmitch0: Look on the Cart_Waypoint thread
14:12.09Silviu-:)
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14:12.27Silviu-|Kev| preferable in game and on same server no ? ;)
14:12.28trh|Kev|: check for realm and mailbox events, if at mailbox and money >1000 gold, send yourself 10g ;)
14:12.36|Kev|Silviu-: that's the problem :)
14:12.40Lysitheathis is wierd, both bindpad and spellbinder fails to bind my numpad keys correctly
14:12.57LysitheaI bind my macro "2" but it's my macro "1" that's really getting bound
14:12.58|Kev|trh: heh
14:13.22trhLysithea: something wrong in the keybindings maybe? so button 2 is bound to key 1?
14:13.40yacoobhm, what mods for buff/debuff displaying are there, apart from elkano's?
14:13.47Lysitheatrh what do you mean?
14:13.58trhLysithea: if you use the default blizzard ui
14:14.18trhLysithea: you get that bars which you can each button assign a different key
14:14.32trhLysithea: i once changed button 2 to key 1 and vice versa
14:14.53trhand it was confusing when i changed some spells in the bars
14:15.02trhand than pressed 1 and spell 2 fired
14:15.21Lysitheabut im only trying to bind my macro2 to one single key
14:15.23Lysitheanumpad0
14:15.26mitch0wobin: this one? http://i19.tinypic.com/2hoh5bq.jpg
14:15.28mitch0:)
14:15.32Lysitheawhile macro1 is getting binded
14:15.44trhok
14:16.20wobinNo the 'official' thread
14:16.21yacooband is there any better replacement for AH apart from KCI?
14:16.30yacoobs/AH/Auctioneer/
14:16.47mitch0wobin: the official thread fails to deliver
14:17.14wobinattached to frist post
14:17.30wobinhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4783.0;attach=1585
14:18.24mitch0where is the attachment icon?
14:18.34kenlyric|workyacoob... not really.
14:18.39Industrialhttp://i19.tinypic.com/2hoh5bq.jpg
14:18.42Industrialwhats this information
14:18.44wobinbottom of the post?
14:18.44Industrialand the text, and font
14:18.53Industrialmitch0: --^
14:18.54kenlyric|workand KCI is broken in a lot of places, and there's LoD option for KCI.
14:18.56mitch0ah, seems I'm not loggd in
14:19.07wobinIndustrial: It's a mockup of a possible gui for cart_waypoints
14:19.09kenlyric|workuntil kci2 comes out, you might just stick with auctioneer and only load it on your AH toon.
14:19.15mitch0Industrial: I see the url, I just couldn't find the "view attachment here" part in the forum
14:19.27yacoobkenlyric|work, the thing is, I want to see prices of stuff when I pick it from the ground
14:19.37mitch0guess my svn acc is no good for the forums, right? :)
14:19.39kenlyric|workAH prices?
14:19.42yacoobyeah
14:19.49kenlyric|workmeh, send it all to your bank alt :)
14:19.51yacoobso I won't vendor something valuable
14:19.58yacoobthat's an option, yeah :)
14:20.20vhaarrnevcairiel: lol
14:20.30vhaarrnevcairiel: The GCD display shows on all buttons even for faded bars.
14:20.51vhaarrnevcairiel: So when I use a spell, I get 80 semi-transparent squares counting down for 1.5sec
14:20.55kenlyric|workKCI is a lot smaller than auctioneer, in terms of the performance hit while it's loaded.
14:21.13kenlyric|workbut several of its other functions are broken (like the lootlink function)
14:21.43Lysitheafound theproblem, bindpad and spellbinder both handeld "1" and "2" as the same name
14:21.58Lysitheawhich caused them to bindmy dispel macro instead
14:21.59yacoobkenlyric|work, what would you suggest just for vendor prices, if I was to switch away from KCI?
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14:22.29mitch0yacoob: doesn't telo's lootlink work?
14:22.37KinkxLysithea - You use both bindpad and spellbinder at the same time? Don't they do the same thing?
14:22.46LysitheaI didnt
14:22.50kenlyric|workyacoob: oh, vendor prices? get colalight
14:22.54LysitheaI tried bindpad first
14:23.03Lysitheadidnt work, I switched to spellbinder
14:23.11yacoobthat's why I ask about stuff :))
14:23.17KinkxAh :)
14:23.19Lysitheadidnt work either, for some reason they thought my "1" and "2" was the same macro
14:23.39kenlyric|workyacoob: colalite even comes with a price database, like informant, so it's better than KCI for figure out which bop vendor quest trash to pick :)
14:24.01nevcairielvhaarr: fascinating
14:24.07nevcairielvhaarr: i kne there where some bugs :D
14:24.10kenlyric|workman, I love when steam is using 190mb of ram
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14:25.31wobinfeh
14:25.35wobinFF does that =P
14:25.56vhaarrnevcairiel: ^^
14:26.16vhaarrnevcairiel: so, what are you planning on doing with spells that are on cooldown?
14:26.27nevcairieli only wonder why the cooldown animation is not tied to the button alpha
14:26.32vhaarrnevcairiel: I mean, other than GCD, which should be hidden, of course
14:27.25nevcairielthe cooldown count overlay from OmniCC is tied to it
14:27.29nevcairielbut the animation is not
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14:27.30nevcairielweird.
14:28.13Industrialwobin: ok, i love the font :P
14:28.22wobinno idea what it is
14:28.41Industriallol @ the tauren named doodookaka
14:28.45wobinIt's not an ingame one
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14:31.30kenlyric|workhmmm... would a broken mod stop from wow from loading at all?
14:31.35yacoobgaaa, so many new mods :|
14:31.37wobinno
14:31.44yacoobI guess I need to deploy them starting from scratch
14:31.54kenlyric|workI get just a little bit into the blue bar on char  load, and it just stops.
14:32.01wobinunless it throws the game into an infinite loop
14:32.04wobinso, actually, yes =P
14:32.13wobinA broken mod -could- stop wow from loading =P
14:33.25kenlyric|workwell, if it was in an infinite loop the mem usage would just keep growing. This gets stuck right at 138mb and 50% cpu usage.
14:33.28neeneeWitchhunter 2, when it was just released, stopped my WoW from loading near half-way
14:33.41sbiuhm
14:33.48sbii tried witchunter
14:33.49neeneeor Witchhunt
14:33.55sbiright
14:33.57kenlyric|workoh, you know witchhunter this morning said "incompatible" for some reason.
14:34.03kenlyric|work-er
14:34.08sbiit seems that it's defaults are a bit... unusable btw :E
14:34.36vhaarrRophy: why are you putting all the local Parser-1.1 data into the library object?
14:34.45kenlyric|workmods are loaded in order, right?
14:34.55Gnarfozwith what do you read the new changelogs?
14:34.58wobinunless you're on a non-windows machine
14:35.12wobinwhereby order of execution is not guaranteed
14:35.13RophyI have a few parser-related utility mods which need to access those tables.
14:35.16kenlyric|workwoot! heyfu is my only out of date mod :)
14:35.20vhaarrkenlyric|work: no, the addon loading order is arbitrary
14:35.26vhaarrRophy: ah
14:35.31wobinkenlyric|work: You could probably change the toc data for that =P
14:35.44kenlyric|workbut then it would just revert back when I updated :)
14:35.57vhaarrRophy: A AceLibrary Parser-1.2 would be nice.
14:36.00kenlyric|workok, trying with no mods.
14:36.21kenlyric|workoh boy, it worked, now the fun of figuring out which is guffed.
14:36.30Rophyvhaarr: since ckknight is working on Parser-3.0, I don't want to turn this into another drama.
14:36.55vhaarrRophy: alright
14:37.07vhaarrI haven't seen any performance data saying 3.0 is better, though.
14:37.15Rophyit won't
14:37.24sbimh
14:37.26RophyParser-3.0 is mainly about the API change.
14:37.31sbithere was something crispy in my coffe
14:37.32sbie
14:37.40Rophywhich added a filter-like API, I think that is good to some uses.
14:37.50krkawhat is Parser? is it related to Deformat somehow?
14:38.29Rophykrka: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ParserLib
14:40.04kenlyric|workwell, I narrowed it down to one of the mods starting with C... so, odds are it's cartographer :)
14:40.36wobin<<
14:40.36wobin>>
14:41.45neeneeoki. fixed that
14:42.03neeneehm.. How do I comment something out in lua? [[ ]] does not seem to work
14:42.10wobin--[[]]--
14:42.10vhaarr--[[ ]]
14:42.15neeneeer
14:42.24krka--
14:42.27neeneewhich one :)
14:42.56wobin--[[ bingle ]]--
14:42.56krka--[=[ ]=]
14:42.56neeneeoki
14:42.57neenee:P
14:42.57wobin><
14:42.57kenlyric|workhmm.. Cart is throwing errors about providing the same locale more than once, though it's still letting me load wow.
14:42.57vhaarrTry mine, you'll find it works just fine, and is two characters less than wobins.
14:42.57kenlyric|workenUS provided twice...
14:43.03neeneeYes, wobins comments out the rest of the line too
14:44.19Industriali just need to do ]]-- for the symmetry, im weird like that
14:44.27neeneeThanks, that worked
14:44.42neeneeIndustrial: Well, though symmetrical, it does something more than without the --
14:44.43yacoobenergy ticker for rogue? and some poisoning machine? (weaponrebuff worked fine back then)
14:44.49Industrialneenee: i know
14:44.55neeneeoki
14:44.55Industrialkenlyric|work: kenergy
14:45.01krkai use --[[ ... \n .. \n ... \n--]]
14:45.05kenlyric|work?
14:45.22krkathat way, i can uncomment a block, by simple adding -- before the first --[[
14:45.30neenee*looks at Alphamap to see if he can remove anything else from the code*
14:45.41kenlyric|workHeh, I use all Ace mods except 4.
14:45.51kenlyric|workAnd it was one of the non-ace mods
14:46.01neeneeWhich one?
14:46.07kenlyric|workcensus+
14:46.11neeneeah
14:46.31kenlyric|workwhich is strange, since it hasn't been updated at all.
14:47.05kenlyric|workabsolutely not a mod I need :)
14:47.27yacoobsome talent editor?
14:48.07Daemonaerror in cartographer waypoints: http://ace.pastey.net/6709 -> occurs when setting another waypoint during corpserunning. didnt occur yesterday
14:48.50neeneeI'm looking at addons I don't need but can't come up with anything :|
14:49.06Industrialneenee: pm me the list or pastey.net
14:49.08Industrial>:)
14:49.10neeneesure
14:49.51yacoobcan I get some consulting service on my list as well? :)
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14:51.11yacoobthere it is then: http://pastey.net/6710
14:51.12wobinbleh
14:51.41yacoobit's "old list updated", any comments are welcome
14:51.57evl100 addons ftw :D
14:52.06wobinDaemona: What version have you got?
14:52.18neeneeMy list is: http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/677/shotsc8.jpg
14:55.11wobinmeh
14:55.20wobinDaemona: I'll have to fix it tomorrow, gotta get to bed
14:55.43wobinDaemona: in the mean time, just know that trying to set a waypoint when dead could cause issues
14:55.55CIA-1703rabbit * r28101 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Typo.
14:56.12Silviu-wobin gn8 :)
14:56.29Silviu-wobin tomorrow u`ll add an note on map too when u /way ? ;)
14:56.41wobinOr you can go to that line in Waypoints and make it "if v.MatchNote and v:MatchNote(id) then"
14:56.54wobinSilviu-: a permanant one?
14:56.55wobinmaybe =P
14:57.12Silviu-Not permanent, an X on map where i added the /way 50.50
14:57.13wobinI'm working on a temporary one at the moment
14:57.18Silviu-And when i arrive autodeletes
14:57.20Silviu-Yes
14:57.22wobinaye, working on that
14:57.22Silviu-Good :)
14:57.37wobinThe functionality is kinda there now
14:57.52wobinI'm just working on getting custom icons
14:58.01wobinso you can choose the cross/skull etc
14:58.08Silviu-Oh, super super
14:58.23sergionevcairiel: you there ping ding dong pong
14:58.26wobinat the moment, it's defaulting to the note icon if you waypoint to a note
14:59.16wobinyacoob: You could use kenergy or gonffbar for the ticker
14:59.43FISKER_QAnyone knows an addon that blocks all whispers from people not on the friendslist and guildlist?
14:59.49nevcairielsergio: yea
15:00.25yacoob*scribble*
15:00.29yacoobthankyou, wobin
15:00.29kenlyric|workhmmm... there re appears to be some lib problems with prat.
15:00.41yacoobhm, is cellular any good?
15:01.20kenlyric|workthis makes no sense... now it loads just fine.
15:01.33wobinwhat does cellular do?
15:01.44yacoobwhisper management
15:01.58wobinah
15:01.58wobinI use heyfu =)
15:02.02Silviu-wobin why don`t u change "if v.MatchNote and v:MatchNote(id) then" ? ;)
15:02.13yacoobheyyou!
15:02.17wobinCause I'm in mid edit
15:02.21wobinand I can't commit without breaking a lot
15:02.26Silviu-Ah ^^
15:02.33kenlyric|workAceLocale(Cartographer-Foglight): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
15:02.47neeneeI prefer Cellular
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15:03.02neeneeFISKER_Q: I wish
15:03.10neeneeFISKER_Q: Would be great
15:03.16kenlyric|workI get this for every cartographer mod I have.
15:03.37trhkenlyric|work: did you try to delete every cartographer folder you have?
15:03.41yacoobomniCC still the addon for cooldowns?
15:03.42trhkenlyric|work: and then reinstall?
15:03.45wobinah
15:03.45kenlyric|workbah!
15:03.51wobincellular is more an im style
15:03.53Silviu-yacoob yes
15:03.53kenlyric|workand yes, that's just what I did with cmdau
15:04.02mitch0yacoob: omnicc works well for me
15:04.19kenlyric|workwell, I assume that's what I did... let me check the defaults to ensure externals were updated properly.
15:04.22mitch0and sct_cooldowns
15:04.50kenlyric|workyacoob: cooldowncount works just fine.
15:04.55mitch0although sct_cooldowns doesn't handle Freeze (WE spell) cooldown
15:06.00mitch0kenlyric|work: omnicc is simpler (code-wise) and works universally. last I checkd, cooldowncount did stuff differently for various bar mods, and didn't even work with all of them
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15:11.04sbiomnicc seems good to me
15:12.59yacoobsimplecombatlog, or something different?
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15:21.43KinkxI prefer Eavesdrop, but it's a bit different from a combatlog mod though
15:22.59mitch0I prefer SCT. when I absolutely need to check the combat log it's usually after I'm dead :) at that time the default format is just as good for me as these fancy converted stuff
15:23.32kenlyric|workah, I see.. all those cart mods moved back into the cart folder?
15:24.15kenlyric|workit's less about a pretty format with SCL and more about removing all the shit you don't want to see, so it doesn't all scroll away during the fight. Though You can achieve the same thing by manually turning off events.
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15:26.05kenlyric|workdamn, did all the packages revert?
15:26.29KinkxI've modified Eavesdrop a little bit, so that you can turn on the tooltips it has when you hold down alt and scroll.. so it works sorta like a regular blizzard combatlog, just more compact
15:26.47Kinkxsaves me some space
15:26.52kenlyric|workhell, no wonder nothing worked for me this morning :)
15:27.24yacoobhm...
15:27.37yacoobpostal doesn't mass send?
15:28.02Hjalteyacoob, enter recipient name and alt click whatever you want to send
15:28.45yacoobah, this way. Neato.
15:31.36kenlyric|workbah! need my wau back.
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15:33.53neeneecmdau works
15:34.01Fisker-rawr
15:34.24kenlyric|workexcept what it did to my packages.
15:34.32neenee?
15:34.58kenlyric|workwell, all the cartagropher parts are now all under the cartographer folder. So I had two for a while.
15:35.03kenlyric|worksame for ora and bigwigs.
15:35.09neeneeAh
15:35.17neeneeI don't use those.
15:35.38kenlyric|workwondering if it was a change in how they were built, or something that cmdau can't handle
15:36.03kenlyric|workmeh, something is seriously screwed up here... it just locked up again when Ivisted the AH.
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15:36.34neenee:|
15:36.58Rycocheti've noticed that when it's loading some lod things like auctioneer - and the system aint expecting it so the hd seek is slow ;-)
15:37.21kenlyric|workslow, or stops completely?
15:37.37Rycochetwell - takes 5+ secs to open the window
15:37.45Rycochetthe whole thing freezes up in that time
15:39.26kenlyric|workand seriously neenee... how can you live without cartographer? :)
15:40.49kenlyric|workwell, it looks like my usb flash drive is corrupt.
15:40.57kenlyric|workso probably various of my SVs are too.
15:41.12Rycochet:-/
15:41.23neeneekenlyric|work: I discovered I did not use most of its features and went back to a modified light-weight version of alphamap. Only uses about 300kb
15:41.41KinkxRycochet - alt-m :)
15:42.29Rycochethehe, i want more than that - like the semi-transparent normally, but put the mouse over a button and it's opaque... but i'll use that anyway ;-)
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15:43.46KinkxI miss being able to do /qnote and /nt from MapNotes :[
15:44.31mitch0Kinkx: did you switch to cart?
15:44.38KinkxYep
15:44.42neeneeI'll zip up the alphamap I use incase someone is interested.
15:45.08mitch0Kinkx: what did you do to your old notes? /mourn?
15:45.21mitch0neenee: what did you hack into alphamap?
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15:45.44neeneemitch0: It's a modified alphamap, without mapnotes, gatherer-notes, so just the map, nothing else.
15:45.53mitch0ah
15:45.57mitch0I need them notes :)
15:46.01neenee:)
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15:46.25KinkxKinda strange Cartographer doesn't have that, /qnote = quick note, adds a note to your current location, e.g. "/qnote fire elementals here", and /nt = Note Target, /nt and you get a note with the targets name, level, etc, nice for named quest mobs or whatever
15:46.27neeneehttp://legionoflore.com/bin/AlphaMap.zip just incase
15:46.29kergothmorning all
15:46.45neeneeHi kergoth
15:46.53Xuerian'mornin.
15:48.57mitch0Kinkx: so, could you import your mapnotes notes somehow?
15:49.53KinkxI didn't bother with it
15:50.03KinkxPretty old notes
15:50.52KinkxImported my Gatherer notes though :)
15:51.13mitch0hohum
15:52.17KinkxFrom 2mb saved variable in Gatherer to 268kb in Cartographer, thats pretty nice :)
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15:53.12mitch0:)
15:54.31mitch0I wonder if I can run cart and mapnotes simultaneously and copy my notes manually :)
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15:55.38KinkxProbably gonna be some issues with that :x
15:56.13mitch0only if they use the same keyboard/mouse combo to create a note :)
15:56.22mitch0or I'll just temporarily disable that in mapnotes
15:56.42mitch0still sounds too much work
15:57.13mitch0does cart come with a pre-built notes db for vendors, taxi and the like?
15:57.46nevcairieli dont think so
15:58.12MoonWolfmorning kergoth
15:58.24mitch0would be nice though, woudln't it? (/hint) :)
15:58.51KinkxIf you use InFlight then it adds all taxi's to Cart
15:58.52mitch0s/dl/ld/
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15:59.22kergoth~today
15:59.23purlextra, extra, read all about it, today is Thursday
15:59.33kergoth~today
15:59.34purl"This must be Thursday.  I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent)
16:00.28mitch0Kinkx: thanks, I'll give it a try
16:01.14mitch0I know I could check the code, but whatever: are these ace libs loaded so that only one instance of a given lib is actually loaded even if it's bundled in several addons?
16:03.57kergothmitch0: yes.
16:04.03Fisker-Anyone knows why WowAceUpdater keeps updating the same addons?
16:04.10kergothmore specifically, only the latest minor version of each major will exist in ram
16:04.40nevcairielFisker-: because its broken
16:04.58Fisker-So that's why all my addons are screwed up now? :P
16:05.13nevcairielyep
16:05.23Fisker-Is sylvanaar to blame?
16:05.28Fisker-aka prat?
16:05.48mitch0kergoth: nice
16:06.04Daemonajust grab http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wau1.7b5-09.zip
16:06.07Daemonaworks fine for me
16:06.50Fisker-well he hasn't released beta 5 officially :P
16:06.52kenlyric|workjesus h crackers that should be stickied!
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16:07.01KinkxDaemona - I tried that one, and it keeps updating updated addons.. does it do that for you as well?
16:07.12Daemonauhmno :X
16:07.17Rycochetmitch0: basically it loads every one, then chooses the latest single copy, and the garbage collection gets rid of everything else the first time around
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16:08.51kergothhttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/6426/qcomment/ looks cute
16:09.08Fisker-looks like 1.7b5 worked for me
16:09.12neeneehttp://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=olivinenv0.jpg
16:09.15kergothRycochet: no. thats only the case if later loaded versions are newer than older
16:09.33kergothRycochet: if a more recent version is already in ram, it never loads, it immediately exits the .lua
16:09.44Daemonathats the nr1 reason to use standalone libs and no externals :X
16:10.05kergothstandalones only gives you a slightly faster initial load time
16:10.18kergothhrm
16:10.27Silviu-kergoth and faster update ^^
16:10.33Daemonawell slightly faster on a 4200rpm laptop hdd is quite some time :X
16:11.29Rycochetkergoth: true - but doesn't the wow engine load the entire file first before executing code in memory - academic though
16:12.02Rycocheti use standalone simply to make sure i've got the latest - not bothered about loading times as much ;-)
16:12.02krkayes, it has to parse the entire code
16:12.05krkajust not run all of it
16:12.13Sarozgief curator transcripts
16:12.14mitch0Daemona: what do you mean by standalon libs/no externals? manually install all the libs your addons depend on and prune teh included versions from the addons themselves?
16:12.17krkathe lua parser is pretty fast though
16:13.17Rycochetthe standalone lib is identical - but means you can then not have a copy included with every addon that needs it - it also means you can update one place to make sure you've got the latest, without having to update all addons that use them
16:14.11mitch0Rycochet: but then I'd have to manually install those libs my addons need, right?
16:14.22mitch0like, check them out manually from svn
16:14.41Silviu-mitch0 yes
16:14.55Silviu-And u can do after that svn co --ignore-externals when u download an addon
16:15.03Silviu-and svn up --ignore-externals
16:15.07Silviu-when u update them
16:15.08Silviu-:)
16:15.16Rycochetsort of - the addons that need them will have the versions they were tested/updated with - but if the lib has a minor update or something having the standalone one means you've got the latest on one update, and can do the others when the authors do - or when you feel like it
16:15.17mitch0ic, thanks
16:15.22Silviu-In case u use svn command line
16:15.50Silviu-U can delete the libs in each addon folder
16:15.59Silviu-Or download all new without externals
16:16.00Silviu-:)
16:16.07Rycochetthe ace2 one is the only one i think really makes a difference - though PT3 hopefully gets updated a lot ;-)
16:17.04Silviu-97 folders
16:17.08Silviu-Incudling bliz ones
16:17.08Silviu-;)
16:17.23yacoobhm
16:17.37yacoobdoes Prat have autodismount and autoskip gossip?
16:17.38mitch0can't I just create a new "addon" for me that pulls in via externals all the stuff I need (standalone libs and the addons I use) then check that out? :)
16:17.56mitch0(that assumes svn write access, of course)
16:18.06Rycochetit's already there ;-P
16:18.11DaemonaSaroz what do you need a curator transcript for? bigwigs HAS a module for curator
16:18.14Rycochet!!standalone libs (or something)
16:18.26Silviu-Rycochet that is for WAU
16:18.53mitch0Rycochet: but I mean all the addons *I personnaly* use, with all their dependencies
16:19.22Silviu-mitch0 it will take u max 30 mins to make all :)
16:19.26mitch0or is that kinda stressing the kindness of the repo maintainers? :)
16:19.27Silviu-one time
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16:19.37Rycochetyou could always write something to parse the *.toc files of each addon to find out what's needed ;-)
16:21.31Silviu-mitch0 http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=addonsgm9.jpg
16:21.33Silviu-:)
16:22.01mitch0heh...
16:22.17mitch0Silviu-: ok, but could you update them all with a single svn command?
16:22.25Silviu-yes
16:22.32Silviu-svn up * --ignore-externals
16:22.36Silviu-Takes like .. 20s
16:22.37Silviu-:)
16:22.49mitch0:)
16:23.07Silviu-I made a .bat file
16:23.07Silviu-cd D:\Jocuri\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns
16:23.07Silviu-svn up .\* --ignore-externals
16:23.07Silviu-pause
16:23.12kergothyacoob: those things really dont belong in a chat mod... why not use automaton? it does both of those and other similar stuff
16:23.13Silviu-Easy :)
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16:25.00mitch0I'll have to check what I use from CT and some other mods and find ace alternatives
16:25.46mitch0btw, is oRA somehow interoperable with CTRA?
16:25.46Proph_is there an addon that shows you the NAME of anyone who has you TARGETed??
16:25.46XuerianAs far as you using oRA and your raid using CTRA, yes
16:25.49mitch0Xuerian: nice
16:25.57Silviu-mitch0 u need raidframes ?
16:26.12Silviu-I mean u are a healer or something ? ;)
16:26.13mitch0not that I have much chance of raiding in the near future... our guild just broke up :)
16:26.28mitch0Silviu-: no, I need it for the special messages, ready check, etc
16:26.38mitch0so that the raid leader is happy :)
16:26.45XuerianIt handles those.
16:26.54neeneeyup, just use Ora2
16:27.11Silviu-Yep u can use ora2 for sure
16:27.11Silviu-:)
16:27.13mitch0sct is not ace, rith?
16:27.13neeneeI used Ora2 for months, when our guild 'required' CTRA and they never noticed :)
16:27.16neeneemitch0: it is
16:27.17XuerianIt is.
16:27.26mitch0s/th/ght/
16:27.34mitch0it is? nice
16:27.44neeneeNo. Not nice, Ace :P
16:27.49mitch0doh
16:28.04mitch0spellcaster is not ace, but it's in the ace svn, so that's nice, too :)
16:28.17Silviu-mitch0 use Mikscrollingbattletext
16:28.18Silviu-:)
16:28.23XuerianMSBT is nicer though <.<
16:28.27Silviu-Yes :)
16:28.27neeneeI agree
16:28.31neeneeI like the combined output
16:28.48mitch0too many options...
16:28.50mitch0:)
16:28.54mitch0hard to choose
16:28.59kergothmsbt's event consolodation is awesome
16:29.29mitch0does it show cooldowns like sct_cooldowns?
16:29.29Silviu-And no need to be ace works wonders
16:29.31kenlyric|workawesome if you're a shadow priest or warlock. or if you hot a lot.
16:29.42Silviu-Yes
16:29.43Silviu-:)
16:29.46Silviu-<- warlock
16:29.47Silviu-:)
16:30.35mitch0erm, MSBT doesn't seem to be ace, or I'm blind
16:30.53axxoso?
16:31.12mitch0I'm trying to move to ace for the simplified update
16:31.23Silviu-mitch0 MSBT no need to be ace
16:31.32Silviu-mitch0 works wonders, trust me :)
16:31.47mitch0at least persuade the author to check it in to the svn :)
16:31.51kenlyric|workit's not like sct will eat your babies. I use sct.
16:32.03Silviu-And he don`t update so much so u need to check it everyday
16:32.05kenlyric|workheck, SCT is aced *badly*,
16:32.17kergothno offense, but convenience of update is a really lame reason to switch addons
16:32.35mitch0no it's not
16:32.40kenlyric|workmeh, why do people have bitch about the way other people do things?
16:32.51toddan even worse reason is when people don't feel like updating at all, or trying something else
16:32.52todd>_<
16:32.54kenlyric|workI use whatever works for any purpose. Hunting down the best seems like a lot of work.
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16:33.04kergothits utterly idiotic to choose based on convenience, rather than whatever best suits your goals
16:33.10mitch0I really hate when something borks up and I can't get an update 'cos curse is down, or I even forget where I got it from and have to hunt for it for an hour
16:33.12kenlyric|workomg you'll save 3bytes of ram!
16:33.14kergothyou end up settling for mediocre tools
16:33.26Silviu-kergoth ok let`s say it`s best etc .. would u use Gatherer over cart ?
16:33.37kergothif it was, i'd use it.
16:33.41mitch0alphamap is nice
16:33.43mitch0:)
16:33.49kergothi still use auctioneer, as it provides auction tools that kci still doesnt
16:34.03Silviu-No need auction addons
16:34.31Silviu-I visit auction once 3 4 days i think just for fun :)
16:34.36Proph_is there an addon that shows you the NAME of anyone who has you TARGETed??
16:35.01neeneeno
16:35.05neeneeI think that can't be done
16:35.08mitch0Prophy: I don't think there's a way to get that info without using a lot of resources
16:35.11neeneewithout somehow polling every player in range
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16:35.33Proph_ah
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16:36.23KinkxIf they're in your raid, then thats no problem.. but if they're not in your raid, then that will be hard
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16:38.25Rycochethrm... a mod that showed a list of every mob that ppl in your raid/group targetted, with counts, and so you could click and target yourself...
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16:38.46DaemonaRycochet perfecttarget does that its just not clickable
16:38.53Funkeh`hey
16:39.07Rycochetthat'll be a start, i like throwing things out and getting new addons ;-P
16:39.15KinkxProph_ - what do you need it for? In what kind of situation would you like to know who has you targeted?
16:39.40Silviu-pvp i guess :))
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16:40.10KinkxCould use a mouseover target of target tooltip, but you would have to hover your mouse over them
16:40.13Proph_arena =)
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16:43.17cncfanaticsHi all :)
16:43.23Xuerian'oy.
16:43.45Rycochetcncfanatics: got to ask about your nick, it's nothing to do with industrial machines is it?
16:44.48cncfanaticsRycochet, no it doesn't :p
16:45.24Rycochetheh, fairy muff ;-)
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16:45.27cncfanaticsshould change my nick tbh lol, its long depricated
16:45.40Gnarfozmore like c&c, right?
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16:46.03cncfanaticsya Gnarfoz
16:46.09Rycochetah
16:46.18cncfanaticsback in the old times of c&c red alert 2
16:46.19XuerianHm.... How does one go about registering a trademark anyway.... <.<
16:46.33Rycochetjust use it and it's yours - registering is different
16:46.44GnarfozXuerian: depending on where you are: patent office, trademark office
16:47.00Rycocheti've not bothered with registering because i've got history showing it's exclusive use since the early 90s
16:47.26XuerianNice :P
16:47.42Rycochetthough installing a microsoft game and seeing one of the companies involved was "Ricochet Games" did get my lawyer itching... ;-P
16:48.17Rycochethard to type ricochet with the right spelling, been doing it my way for too long - it looks wrong the right way ;-P
16:48.22Gnarfozyeah, trademarking normal english words is good
16:48.25Gnarfoz(... not)
16:48.41Rycochetactually - that would be a use thing, i've been rycochet software
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16:48.51Rycochetunder the general title rycochet
16:49.17Rycochetand as some of the software has been game related... ;-)
16:49.54Rycochetok, got to go outside and burn several sacks of paper waste before the IRS finds them... (not really, in the uk) ;-)
16:50.06Xuerian:P
16:50.09XuerianFiah.
16:50.44durcynirs, inland, whichever.
16:51.20Xuerianfb2k looks nice with the new panelsui o.0..
16:51.59cncfanaticsfb2k ?
16:52.03neeneefoobar2000
16:52.07Xuerianyeah, that.
16:52.09cncfanatics:o
16:52.16cncfanaticsfb is a confusing acronym -.-
16:52.18cncfanaticsfubar, flexbar
16:52.21neeneeI really enjoyed the bit where people actually thought that foobar produced better sound than winamp
16:52.24Xuerianhttp://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=43077&st=4925
16:52.44deltronfoobar is ftw
16:53.20Gnarfozwinamp is still where it's at
16:53.20neeneeegh, I dislike that. People saying that something is 'ftw' or 'imba', while they don't mean it will help you win or is imbalanced, they just mean they like something :|
16:53.20deltronwoooow that is nice
16:53.21Gnarfoz;>
16:53.35deltronhehe
16:53.47neeneeI prefer winamp too. Nice and clean. I don't want a huge thing on my desktop
16:53.58cncfanaticsI use mplayer for my music lol, or totem
16:53.59durcynneenee: henceforth let us use "tacos". as in. "that audio player is the taco", or "i'm tacos for coacoa puffs".
16:54.02cncfanaticsminimalistic stuff ftw
16:54.03Xuerianneenee: Did you look at that link? :P
16:54.05neeneeI used cplay
16:54.08deltronI'm gonna give panelsui a try
16:54.10Proph_so do ppl prefer Mik's or SCT?  
16:54.11neeneeXuerian: yes
16:54.16neeneeProph_: msnt
16:54.18neenee*msbt
16:54.24neeneedurcyn: :)
16:54.39Proph_msbt runs alot smaller?
16:54.45Proph_can msbt do everything sct does?
16:54.46neeneedurcyn: I used flapjack instead of 'noob' and had an addon which replaced the word for me in chat too
16:54.49vhaarrI prefer SCT.
16:54.50XuerianI used to use winamp, and I liked it. I admit that :) plain fb2k with some simple titleformat coloring works wonders. I don't want to -see- my media player. I want to *hear* it
16:54.56neeneeProph_: I do not know if it 'runs smaller', it's just preference.
16:55.04neeneeProph_: Try them both, see what you like best.
16:55.42neenee:)
16:55.53deltronman, how did I miss this PanelsUI stuff?
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16:56.14neeneeXuerian: I suppose I could make it look like winamp, but then I might as well use winamp :)
16:56.17vithosi used to use winamp too.  foobar2000 is not for people who don't want to put forth some effort in configuring it
16:56.19Xuerianneenee: Yep :)
16:56.22vithosthere's no way i'd go back to winamp now
16:56.27Xuerianneenee: No argument there
16:56.50Xueriandeltron: PanelsUI is a rather recent release. It takes the panels from ColumnsUI and gives you tons more control over them
16:56.57neeneeegh, that's just saying 'this is 'l33t' :P
16:57.04deltronXuerian: not to mention looks great doing it
16:57.17Xueriandeltron: Don't overestimate it though, it doesn't *come* looking like that
16:57.29XuerianYou can make it look like that, though :p
16:57.30deltronoh I know that
16:57.32neeneeAh well. To each their own :)
16:57.37deltronjust like columnsui
16:57.42Xuerianheheh
16:58.14vhaarrXuerian: What's PanelUI and ColumnsUI?
16:58.18vhaarr~panelui
16:58.26neeneedinner.
16:58.30neeneeWoW-unrelated vhaarr
16:58.48vhaarrAh, Foobar?
16:58.56XuerianYep
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16:59.21deltronfb2k plugins
16:59.23Xuerianhttp://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=43077&st=4925 has the latest crop of panelui layouts.
17:02.41KinkxI think this would be a cool addon, an addon that would change whats being displayed on your Character Frame, i.e. Base Stats, Melee, Ranged, Spell, Defense, if you hover over that frame and hold down a modifier key, like setup 2 other stats you would like to see when you hover over the left or right attribute window while holding down your Alt key and they appear
17:03.03KinkxKind of silly though I guess, but would be nice to have imo :)
17:03.41KinkxSince I keep changing back and forth between Base Stats and Defense
17:03.53durcynor you could just click
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17:08.01Kinkxdurcyn - I don't like clicking to much, that takes time :)
17:08.32Proph_what file do u edit in msbt that is equiv to sct's .lua file
17:08.36Proph_to add custom events
17:08.45CIA-1703funkydude * r28102 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:
17:08.45CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:
17:08.45CIA-17- reverted my localization and icon changes
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17:11.04Proph_what file do u edit in msbt that is equiv to sct's .lua file...to add custom events?
17:11.31Silviu-Proph_ u can do it in game
17:12.14Proph_oh like adding mace stun, etc ?
17:12.36Silviu-I think yes
17:12.39kergothProph_: /msbt
17:12.43kergothyeah, that stuff is easily done
17:12.55Silviu-I added Backslash from warlock
17:12.57kergothi added notification of sword spec / hand of justice extra attacks to mine at one point
17:14.40Proph_is that done in triggers?
17:14.47kergothyep
17:14.53durcynchrist, these wow-roster retards actually put up a "you are banned from this site" page when you send a user-agent string they don't recognize
17:14.59durcynhow absolutely retarded
17:15.02kergothhah
17:15.07durcyni need to use the word 'retard' here one more time
17:15.21snurre-hm, how do I set up aguf to show entire raid in one group, sorted by class?
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17:16.08Proph_hmm instead of doing these custom events/triggers in game..is there a file i can edit? much easier i think
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17:17.54phybermaintenance and they can't fix the damn drinking interuption in Netherstorm.
17:18.00phyber/golfclap
17:18.04durcynProph_: savedvars :/
17:19.21ArilawWas there ever a new savedvariables editor created after SVedit?
17:19.27ArilawI miss that thing. :(
17:21.12yacoobmy first time with bt3
17:21.32yacoobdoes it also have profiles, that is I need to set it up differently for various classes?
17:21.56Silviu-Arila i use Notepad++ for savedvars and lua
17:22.10ArilawSilviu-: Yeah I could do that, but SVedit had a nice GUI and I'm lazy. :D
17:22.21ArilawIt was like RegEdit for savedvariables.
17:22.21Silviu-:P
17:22.32durcynyacoob: just ace profiles.  check out the /ace profile command =)
17:23.28yacoobdurcyn, ah, this thing that is unable to load profile on another char? :/
17:23.47yacoobdurcyn, that is, I switch to 'priest' profile, relog to warrior, load profile from... no 'priest' there
17:24.15durcynno, you can set custom profiles
17:24.44ArilawBT3 should still be giving profile options if you have FuBar installed.
17:24.53yacoobdurcyn, ok, I can make a named profile, but I cannod load from specific char/realm/class
17:25.09durcynthe default is for the global profile, you can set addon profiles per char, per class, or arbitrarily.  so you set your bartender up in that profile, then you set your character to use it.
17:25.19neeneetekkub, where aaare you
17:25.30Xuerian<Plays scooby-doo theme>
17:25.33durcynnot sure about copying between profiles, tbqh
17:25.48yacoobdurcyn, but the problem with *bt* is that various classes need various types of switching
17:25.48ArilawCopying to a new profile is something I'd like to see.
17:26.11ArilawI have everything set up to the 'default' profile, but the character-specific profiles are blank and lose all of my customization if I try to switch.
17:26.17neeneeSilviu-: I have a problem with Notepad++, perhaps you have encountered it too - I use 7-zip to open Archives. When I double-click a lua file, which is associated with Notepad++, it does not open, it only tells me that the file does not exist, then asks me if I want to create it. Do you have any idea how to solve that?
17:26.32durcynyacoob: right.  so you'd set up a profile for each, then set each character to use the appropriate profile.
17:26.33ArilawRight-click, open-with?
17:27.14neeneeNope
17:27.21neeneeI can't open files from withing 7-zip
17:27.23durcynneenee: check your registry for the .lua association, make sure the HKCR it's assigned to has the shell\command key properly formed
17:27.25neenee*Within
17:27.29durcynoh, that.
17:27.44Silviu-neeneedid not encountered that
17:27.47Silviu-I use winrar
17:27.48durcyni'd still check to make sure explorer is passing "%s" to notepad++
17:27.49neeneedurcyn: It is, it works fine with any file, lua/toc too, but not if I do it from within a zipfile
17:27.53neeneehm
17:28.00yacoobdurcyn, there's only one problem with that
17:28.10Xuerianneenee: What about just letting xp handle zipfiles?
17:28.10durcynproperly enquoted**
17:28.17yacoobdurcyn, each of the profiles would be *very* similar, namely the difference would be the type of bar switching
17:28.36yacoobso it would be *perfect* if I could log on to warrior, load the profile of priest, and then change it
17:28.43yacoobdurcyn, from what I see it's impossible :/
17:28.44neeneeXuerian: I don't want to. I use 7-zip for all other archives too
17:28.52Silviu-yacoob u can :)
17:28.56durcynyacoob: the only other way to do it is something like Startup
17:29.01Silviu-From fubar menu
17:29.04neeneeI'll check what 7-zip does that is difficult for notepad++
17:29.13yacoobSilviu-, have you tried to do *exactly* the thing I described?
17:29.23yacoobdurcyn, yeah, which is a bit of bummer
17:29.40Silviu-yacoob so, confugure for 1 class, then change to an alt and copy profile from first and then save right ?
17:29.53Silviu-configure*
17:30.29Silviu-With bt3 right ?
17:31.40Silviu-neenee i just checked now, i downloded an zip file from wowace and double click inside it on a lua file and it open`s correct in notepad++
17:31.45neeneeokay
17:31.53neeneeIt works here too, but only if I have notepad++ already running
17:31.53yacoobSilviu-, yeah. as far as I can see, it's impossible to load profile of another class/realm/char - only "named" profile
17:31.57Silviu-But as i said i use WinRar
17:32.18neeneeSilviu-: Can you try it without having it running?
17:32.24Silviu-Yes was not running
17:32.25Silviu-:)
17:32.32Silviu-U have latests ?
17:32.48Silviu-v4.0.1
17:32.56neeneeotepad
17:33.03neeneeyes
17:33.13Silviu-Then i guess is your zip thing :)
17:33.24neeneehm.
17:33.25neeneeYea.
17:33.26Silviu-7-zip ... tho i never heard of it :)
17:33.29neeneeIt's great
17:33.37Silviu-Used winzip and winrar only
17:34.30Silviu-yacoob i did copy profile of Char ...
17:35.02Silviu-i have Littleone as warlock and Tyranya as rogue, and it worked to copy settings from Little .., strange :)
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17:38.29neeneeHm. I wish there was an automagic way of associate Notepad++ with files
17:38.52neenee'From v2.6, Notepad++ integrates the File Associations Manager which allows user associate/disassociate all the file extensions he/she wants with Notepad++.' - But you have to do it one by one
17:38.58neeneeI just want to add all known
17:39.18Silviu-Preferences, File associations
17:39.19Silviu-?
17:39.20Silviu-:)
17:39.31neeneeYes, but I have to do it one by one for each extension
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17:47.35neeneeapparently quite some people have the same problem, that it doesn't/can't associate all known filetypes in one go.
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17:48.39neeneeVery unintuitive, the way the assocations are added. I can't even add whole categories or shift-select more than one
17:48.41neeneeaargh
17:48.53neeneeAnd I have to press the button. I can't double-click what I want to add
17:49.04neeneeAnd why is the button in the middle instead of at the top
17:49.42durcynbecause someone let a code monkey design a ui
17:49.42neeneeokay, done
17:50.02neeneeworks now
17:50.03neeneephew
17:50.09durcyn(we're not very good at that)
17:50.12sbiehy, don't blame codemonkeys!
17:50.22neeneestupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID. there. Got that out of my system.
17:50.30kergothXuerian: thats generally a Good Thing.. how often do you end up only doing something once and never again? :)
17:50.42Xueriankergoth: I didn't say it was a bad thing :P
17:50.59kergoth:)
17:51.24Xueriankergoth: Though a example of a probably-superfluous implementation would be the pattern generation I wrote for SE-Loot :p
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17:52.01neeneekergoth: Quite often, if done properly the first time.
17:52.18XuerianThough he has a point...
17:53.15Tornhoofjust add notepad++ as a direct shortcut to the rightclick menu
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17:54.53neeneeI've already fixed it :)
17:54.57neeneeBut it was a hassle.
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17:56.33neeneeI just met a very scary gnome: http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6509/scarygnomems4.jpg
18:00.52Proph_anyone play the AH lately? buy/reselling gems?
18:01.22ArilawI don't have enough disposable income for that. ;P
18:01.31ArilawAt least not enough to offset how much I suck at playing the AH.
18:01.32neeneeProph_: Nope, I don't trust the prices yet
18:02.46yacoobuh...
18:02.56yacoobwhy eavesdrop frame dissapears?
18:03.02yacoobeven when 'fade frame' is off?
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18:06.12shieldbProph_, on my server I can make a stable (though small) profit by buying up a couple types of uncut gems and putting them on the AH as cut gems
18:06.40shieldbMainly with solid star of elune and potent noble topaz
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18:09.15shieldbAlso I make out decently with buying adamantite ore, prospecting it, selling the gems (cut or not) and converting the adamantite powder into mercurial adamantite to craft a couple cheaper misc. pieces to sell
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18:09.41shieldbneither one is a very huge profit though, but 20-50g a day doesn't hurt for practically no time spent
18:10.24neeneeI want a riding crop, but 200g is a bit much
18:10.38neeneeOfcourse it may be worth it in the long run.
18:10.48Silviu-neenee farm for i is easy
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18:10.59Silviu-i just farmed in 2 3 h for 2
18:11.24neeneeLet's see. I am an Alchemist myself
18:11.43neeneeSo I could make the might myself
18:12.04neeneeI have plenty of Arcane Dust too as I bought it for cheap a bit ago
18:12.13neeneeAnd my druid can skin
18:12.20neeneeSo..
18:12.24neenee*ponders*
18:12.28Silviu-:/
18:12.30Silviu-See ?
18:12.31Silviu-:P
18:12.51Iceroth20 knothide leathers doesn't cost much
18:13.14Arrowmasterthe most expensive part is the primal might, and since its a good item to get skill ups with after 350 you should be able to find somebody to make it for almost nothing, probably even nothing
18:13.16trh_neenee: just farm the primal might stuff and buy the rest of the ah
18:13.22neeneeYes, the primals are expensive
18:13.41neeneeHm. I am 341 Alchemy
18:14.07trh_375 herba and 375 mining :)
18:14.19nevcairiel375 herb and alchemy
18:14.19sbitrh_, chinese :p
18:14.20nevcairielso?
18:14.21nevcairiel:D
18:14.26neenee375 herbalism with my druid
18:14.29shieldbneenee, they're going for that much on your server?
18:14.36trh_sbi: nah.. just farmed my ass of for my epic flying mount :)
18:14.40shieldbriding crops are down under 100g where I'm at
18:14.53sbitrh_, i got it the same day i became 70 :P
18:15.02trh_sbi: omg.. china gold buyer :P
18:15.10sbitrh_, ahah
18:15.21neeneeshieldb: the crops? for about 200
18:15.25shieldbwow
18:15.26sbitrh_, i got more than 7k before patch :)
18:15.29trh_i had to farm 3500 gold :/
18:15.31trh_sbi: nice
18:15.43JoshBorkehow does one farm 3500g?
18:15.46Arrowmasteri still have 1600 gold to go....
18:15.52sbitrb, i have less than 7 gold now lol :D
18:15.56JoshBorkei just don't know how to farm gold :-(
18:16.00trh_JoshBorke: took about  week
18:16.02Tornhoofnobody is even willing to pay 100g for the crops
18:16.03trh_JoshBorke: took about  1 week
18:16.13trh_JoshBorke: just farmed primal manas and sold them on AH
18:16.20Arrowmastermy friend just sold two riding crops for over 100g
18:16.24shieldbJoshBorke, you just go do instance runs until you have enough. You can do solo ebay runs easy :P
18:16.26sbiprimal mana is a good choice :p
18:16.36trh_sbi: yeah.. its so easy to farm it :)
18:16.38neeneemaking 20 elixirs of major agility now, that should get me up high enough with alchemy
18:16.56neeneeThere, 350
18:17.16shieldbfind a friend who does enchanting and you can make good money off of DE'ing greens, too
18:17.25JoshBorkeebay runs?
18:17.51shieldbas long as you figure out where the appropriate cutoff is for vendoring the green vs. selling the enchanting mats
18:18.00Arrowmasteri used up three stacks of arcane dust getting from 361 to 365 tailoring =(
18:18.12shieldbJoshBorke, sarcasm doesn't carry well in irc :(
18:19.26shieldbfarming thorium or level 60 enchanting mats can be a good way to go for money, too. There's a lot of people skilling up blacksmithing and enchanting for the bop / self only stuff
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18:19.35Hockhi, all
18:19.37trh_a friend and me will power-level 2 primal mooncloth tailors to get 20 slot bags :)
18:19.47Hockis there an ace replacement for the pvp tower bar?
18:19.52Hocksomething that can be moved?
18:19.59kergothHock: Capping may be what you want
18:20.13Hocki'll look at it.
18:20.31Hocki just want something to replace the tower capture bar for the outland pvp.  the stupid bar is in the way.
18:20.37Hockwhere i put some of my buttons
18:20.40kergothah
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18:23.38boonehey guys, is there anywhere on wowace.com i can read about submitted bugs to the various addons?
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18:24.10Icerothwiki/forum thread are your best bets to start
18:28.00booneCheads, thanks, been all over the forums but haven't found anything about my problem
18:28.07Hockkergoth: looking at the wiki, doesn't seem like capping will do what i'm looking for.  is the documentation just not updated reflecting that it will replace those outland pvp tower capture bars?
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18:28.44XuerianWelcome back, Rycochet :P
18:29.23Rycochetdidn't manage to burn it all - but saved killing off my shredder through overuse ;-P
18:29.49Rycocheti like sprocket - just never gotten around to using it
18:30.06Arrowmasterafaik nothing can replace the tower capture bar yet
18:30.06XuerianDoesn't work anymore... Author ran off.
18:30.21Rycochetin that case there's a vote for doing it ;-P
18:30.24Hockarrowmaster: how about simply letting me move it
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18:30.43Arrowmasteryou can move it by moving MinimapCluster
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18:30.51Rycochetmy bars are getting too full now i'm getting into doing more stuff ;-)
18:31.14Hockoh is it docked to the minimap?
18:31.21Arrowmasteryes
18:31.47Hocki use squeenix and afaik nothing that lets me move clusters / windows.
18:32.03Hockdoes kc_mobility let me do that?
18:32.10Arrowmastersqueenix moves Minimap and not MinimapCluster
18:32.31Hockright, i figured that.
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18:32.38Hockso now i just need to find something to let me move that.
18:33.09Funkeh``isp's ftl
18:34.47art3miswheeeeeeeeeee
18:34.56art3misdinged 70 and got my flyer last night
18:35.10Rycochetgratz ;-)
18:35.10art3misand figured out my pausing lag issue i "think"
18:35.38art3misit seems that while autobar has a "quest item slot" it doesnt actually use it proper and scans all items you loot to add tothe bar
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18:37.48art3mishah
18:39.03XuerianHock: I think SimpleMinimap can move the various things attached to the minimap
18:39.04boonei'm getting this message with ora2 (cant find anything about it on the forum): "Interface\Addns\oRA2_Optional\MainTank.lua:804: Usage: <unnamed>:SetScale(scale)". tried removing it completely and removing the savedvariables, doesn't help. tried turning off optional, doesnt help, any clues?
18:39.16art3misbuttonhole
18:39.21boonethe problem is that i get no mt-windows
18:39.30art3mismaff and move anything
18:40.00art3misthose 3 things allow uyou to gather yer minimap buttons and have then expand and contract into a single button retaining thier dragged positions
18:40.24boonei think the mt-part of ora is disabled somehow, because if i do /ora mt set, i get the message "option /ora mt set is disabled"
18:42.12Hjalteboone, delete the ora2 folders from your addons folder and download the package from wowace.com/files
18:42.34boonethat's the same url that WAU gets it from, right?
18:42.48boonebecause i've tried removing it completely and installing it again through wau without success
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18:44.16HjalteDon't use wau.
18:44.19Hjaltefor that.
18:44.25HjalteoRA2
18:44.28booneok, i'll try manually, thanks
18:45.56booneshould i refrain from updating ora2 with wau alltogether?
18:48.53Funkeh``my ora2 works fine and i use wau to update it
18:49.23boonei envy you :<
18:49.25HjalteI think prat causes problems when you update through wau
18:49.35ArilawPrat just forgets half of its settings every time it gets updated.
18:49.42boonei do use prat, never had any problems with it though
18:49.44Funkeh``theres a feature in prat thats causing problems
18:49.48HjaltePrat causes problems with oRA2
18:49.55Funkeh``i have no idea what it is, try turning off features 1 by 1 ^^
18:50.10yacoobis there a description of all graphic option of wow?
18:50.17kenlyric|workArilaw: it doesn't forget... people just randomly change the options so they're not valid anymore :)
18:50.24yacoobmy fps dropped at least by 5, after going to tbc...
18:50.44Arilaw:P
18:50.51booneonly reason i'm using prat is because confab never got updated for tbc
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18:51.24SLVRsurfRIs "changlog-<addon name>-rEVISION" the new standard for the changelogs included from the zips on wowace.com/files ? Because it's breaking WAU into thinking there's always an update.
18:52.11kenlyric|workor, as I like to say "uh huh"
18:52.29kenlyric|workhttp://derey.home.mindspring.com/wau1.7b5-09.zip
18:52.54booneHjalte, downloading it manually fixed the problem, muchos gracias
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18:53.09HjalteBoone, no problems :)
18:53.24booneweird though, what's the difference from the one downloaded through wau?
18:54.13Hjaltewau splits it up into multiple directories
18:54.41boonehmm, does that mean i should manually upgrade cartographer aswell to get rid of the 10 extra cataloges?
18:54.59durcynif you use the package installer through wau, and the addon has a filelist.wau in it, those directories are split out as per the LoadOnDemand batch/shell script
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19:02.11Hjalteboone, unless an addon bugs on you, don't go away from wau
19:02.36booneheh, okay
19:07.22Benumbedcorrect me if I am wrong, can you target via click on someone (list) if out of combat
19:08.32ThorgardBenumbed, was that a question? :o
19:09.07Benumbedyeah can you or not =P
19:11.29evlkergoth: any plans on updating Hemlock? :P
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19:13.02PogoTribalWhat was that mod that converts crit/hit ratings into %?
19:13.04Antiarc|WorkIf you mean for Anesthetic poison, then it just needs an item ID to be uncomented.
19:13.08Antiarc|Workcommented*
19:13.13Antiarc|WorkI should test that and commit it. :P
19:14.29BenumbedPogoTribal: Rating Buster
19:15.41durcyntekirate!
19:16.00PogoTribalANy others?
19:16.42shieldbI wonder how long before the universal remote gets a nerf now that lots more people are taking advantage of it :P
19:16.51shieldbhttp://chuckg.org/dump/2007/curator_the_pet.jpg
19:16.57Benumbednot that I know of
19:17.04nevcairiellol
19:17.11Kaelten[Ammo]: I'm slowly working on what?
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19:18.45PogoTribalRatings Buster is only changing those ratings stats. Are there any mods to break down stats to their most basic parts?
19:19.48durcynnot sure what you mean
19:20.07evlAny tips on how I can detect Wind Fury on a weapon?
19:20.42evlGetWeaponEnchantInfo and UnitBuff both don't mention the Wind Fury
19:21.12shieldbPogoTribal, ratingbuster simply adds what % stuff works out to on the tooltip. So instead of "Equip: 16 hit rating" you see "Equip: 16 hit rating (1.01%)" or whatever it works out to
19:21.18PogoTribalRather than showing me just agility, it shows me X Agility (0.8% dodge, 0.5% crit), 18 Sta (+180 HP), 32 Defense (-2% crit)
19:21.49shieldbjtip (jtips?) condenses that sort of info so if you have a 15 agi enchant and the item gives 10 agi, you just see one line that says "25 agility"
19:21.58PogoTribalYeah but that's not a very good way of comparing items. Actually it's almost useless for anything other than a gimmick.
19:22.52PogoTribalI'm talking about true item comparison, all the stats are broken down and you're given totals for what a piece of armor actually gives you for each applicable stat.
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19:24.57durcynif it exists, i've never seen it.
19:25.31PogoTribalIt doesn't exist.
19:26.36durcynseems like it'd be doable, but there's a lot of per-class and talent-specific data to collect
19:26.55Ominouskaelten: hows the new kc_items coming along?
19:27.11Kaeltenthere are those that consider it funcitonal
19:28.42Ominousis it in branches?
19:29.39Kaeltenomnous yes
19:29.57NickenyfikenXuerian: haha :-)
19:30.11KaeltenXuerian: here is some eye cream and a file shredder,  remove it from thy presence and look upon its evil no more!
19:30.31NickenyfikenXuerian: i need help with XLoot... its like... dead :-(
19:31.03XuerianNickenyfiken: Dead?
19:31.14Nickenyfikenshows no loot
19:31.15Nickenyfikenno errors
19:31.24Xuerianxloot itself, or monitor?
19:31.25Nickenyfikenonly anchors shows up
19:31.31Nickenyfikenah yes monitor
19:31.34XuerianHm
19:31.41XuerianDo you have ACP?
19:31.47Xuerian(Or mcp)
19:31.53Nickenyfikennope
19:32.00Xueriananything that can load lod addons?
19:32.01Xueriano_0
19:32.01Kaeltenoh and Xuerian ever heard of LootHog?
19:32.12XuerianKaelten: Used to use it. Captures rolls, right?
19:32.20Kaeltenyep
19:32.42NickenyfikenXuerian: i can install ACP
19:32.45Kaeltenwas wondering if you'd consider adding in that functionality into XLoot as a new module
19:33.05Kaeltenmainly for /rolls
19:33.13XuerianNickenyfiken: that might help, but I think the problem is that SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Loot isn't getting loaded
19:34.14XuerianKaelten: I suppose I could. I'll add it to the things on my plate, feel free to remind me if I neglect it :P
19:34.30Kaelten:P
19:34.30durcynrabbit's groupfu branch snarfs rolls already, no?
19:34.32Kaeltenwill do
19:34.33XuerianNickenyfiken: Speaking of that, do you have/have SpecialEventsEmbed enabled?
19:34.42XuerianYeah, it does
19:35.04XuerianIt doesn't have the extra stuff loothog has though, iirc.
19:35.50Nickenyfikenhmm i guess i don't
19:35.55Nickenyfikenif its not embedded somewhere
19:36.21XuerianNickenyfiken: It should've been embedded, but it wasn't showing up on svn mirrors right after I added it, only on dev
19:37.11NickenyfikenSpecialEvents-Loot is embedded
19:37.23Nickenyfikenit should get loaded then
19:37.34Nickenyfikenah!
19:37.44Nickenyfikenlibs\SpecialEvents-Loot\SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua from TOC
19:38.00Ominouskaelten: does kc_items 2.0 have lootlink like functionality built in?
19:38.00Nickenyfikenshould be libs\SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0\SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua
19:38.05Nickenyfikeni think
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19:38.42XuerianI remove version names from lib folders in my toc/externals, but I could well be naming things wrong because A: i miss obvious things and B: I was having problems myself for a while
19:38.54XuerianNickenyfiken: Give me a minute and I'll check it out.
19:42.03Nickenyfikenim testing now, just have to loot something
19:42.22XuerianNickenyfiken: /xlm options -> Advanced -> Test loot handlers
19:42.33XuerianSome won't work even it it is loaded, if you haven't seen the items
19:43.14Kaeltenominous not yet
19:43.20Kaeltenlinkview isn't made yet
19:43.30Ominousoki
19:43.32Kaeltenworking on tooltips and auction stuff first
19:43.48sylvanaarwow a patch
19:44.08NickenyfikenXuerian: hmm money seems to work now, but not the rest
19:44.10sylvanaar2.0.8
19:44.23XuerianNickenyfiken: If money works, the lib is loaded
19:44.33XuerianNickenyfiken: Doesn't work at all when you loot things, aside from that?
19:44.48Nickenyfikennopr
19:44.59Nickenyfikenjust looted some crap from a spider
19:45.01XuerianAlright, looking into it
19:45.04Nickenyfikena gray and a shite item
19:45.18Nickenyfikenwhite
19:45.46Nickenyfikenwell the path in the TOC was wrong wasnt it?
19:46.33XuerianNickenyfiken: I don't think so. svn:externals: SpecialEvents-Loot http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0
19:46.53XuerianNickenyfiken: Anyhow. Money runs through the same lib
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19:51.29Xuerianargh.
19:52.45XuerianAnyone have the enUS 2.0.8 patcher?
19:53.05Saint-Ni bet filefront does
19:53.09Hjalte2.0.8? oO
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19:53.19XuerianArena scorebored fix, hjalte
19:53.20Saint-Nor whatever the latest is
19:53.24XuerianSomehow it's 2.8mb
19:53.26HjalteAh..
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19:53.35Xuerianinstead of just like 100kb >_>
19:53.43Saint-Nhey x i meant to ask you something about the loot stuff
19:53.53XuerianSaint-N: Hm?
19:53.55Saint-Nyou dont have autoloot built in do ya?
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19:54.15Saint-Ntrying to figure out why sometimes itll see DE stuff and others it wont
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19:54.36NickenyfikenXuerian: weird cus my folder is named SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0
19:54.45XuerianBuh? No, it can't auto-loot anything
19:54.54Saint-Nk
19:55.03Saint-Njust making sure it wasnt xloot ;)
19:55.04XuerianSaint-N: Make sure it's not appearing below your bags
19:55.17Saint-Nnah the stuff that it doesnt autoloot appears in the top left corner
19:55.31Saint-Nand its not all the time only sometimes, anytime it appears under the cursor it loots it fine
19:55.43XuerianAnd filefront doesn't have the patcher. mrg :P
19:55.57knarf^Anyone used gmatch for finding itemlink patterns ?
19:55.58XuerianSaint-N: It should never appear top-left... Snag a shot of it when it does
19:56.09Saint-Nits only off DE's
19:56.17Saint-Nbut will do
19:56.21Xuerianall de's?
19:56.25Saint-Nsome
19:56.32Saint-Nlike 3/7
19:56.54CIA-1703neriak * r28103 10ArkInventory/Locale/deDE.lua:
19:56.54CIA-17ArkInventory:
19:56.54CIA-17- fixed german translation, the addon was broken. I'll complete translation when I've got more time. At least it's working well again.
19:58.02XuerianSaint-N: Snag a shot then, or see if you find patterns of what does and doesn't work, I'll check it out on a enchanter
19:58.11XuerianNickenyfiken: SOMETHING is definitely messed up
19:58.35Xuerianhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SpecialEventsEmbed/ ???
19:58.40XuerianGwaaaah?
19:59.30Nickenyfikeni dont trust WAU
19:59.37knarf^I'm having a problem using string.gmatch("itemlink1 test itemlink2", "|c.+|H.+|h%[.+%]|h|r") for some odd reason it recognizes the entire string instead of recognizing itemlink1 & itemlink2, is it my pattern that is odd? :>
20:00.58NickenyfikenXuerian: downloaded latest XLootx addons
20:01.04Nickenyfikenand its working now!
20:01.08Nickenyfikendamnit
20:01.23XuerianKaelten: Ehm, could a svn mirror be behind?
20:01.32Kaeltenthere is only one
20:01.40Kaeltenits very rare but its happened once so far let me look
20:02.06Kaeltennope they're fine
20:02.07XuerianKaelten: That's weird then, because 65.110.63.200 / http://svn.wowace.com is showing SEE not having SE-Loot, but it's most definitely on dev
20:02.41Nickenyfikenwell it's really weird cus the version WAU have downloaded and extracted does not have the same content as my manual downloads do
20:02.48Nickenyfikenit has happened before
20:02.56Nickenyfikenreally weird
20:03.01Kaeltenhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua
20:03.04Kaeltenits there for me
20:03.20XuerianMust just be me then...
20:03.35KaeltenXuerian: make sure you're not looking at a HOSTS entry or whatnot.
20:04.34XuerianKaelten: I had set svn.wa to that IP a while back when the mirrors were being loopy. Removed it... Is a reboot required to apply changes to HOSTS?
20:05.01Kaeltendon't think so.
20:05.35Xuerianwell thar she blows o.0... Updating then
20:05.50Xuerian(Thanks o.0)
20:06.08Kaeltennp :)
20:06.20knarf^bleh, I hate regex :/
20:06.38Xuerianknarf^: There should be a simpler pattern on wowwiki
20:07.16Saint-Nwhen did this patch come out?
20:07.25Saint-Nwasnt there when i was home this morning ;P
20:07.26Xuerianhalf a hour ago
20:07.34knarf^Xuerian ye well guess i'll give that a try, made that pattern myself :P
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20:11.45yacoobhmm
20:11.56yacoobI do not see oCB in the svn, is it gone?
20:12.32Xueriano_0
20:12.50Xuerian"Sorry, the installer was unable to start up. You may be out of hard drive space." ... gg, Bliz -_-
20:13.56XuerianOh, great. Someone distributed the *partial* patch
20:13.58XuerianXD
20:14.16gnorlishhaste yanked his addons a while ago
20:14.31durcynshould all be on fuxsake.net
20:14.35haste25th Dec, to be exact
20:14.36gnorlishdue to people making unauthorized changes after he requested them not to
20:14.40hasteor was it 23rd?
20:14.55hasteIt was a little bit more then that gnorlish
20:15.00hastebut let's just live with that idea :)
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20:15.06gnorlishi leave it at that when people ask
20:15.17XuerianAce2: The place where drama meets code.
20:15.52pastamancerI'm in your svn, causin ur drama
20:15.56XuerianXD
20:16.06pastamancer;)
20:17.01haste>:3 Jesus christ it's a lion! Get in the car!
20:17.27knarf^Xuerian hmm the wowwiki pattern does not find anything :<
20:18.30hasteXuerian: I have some more complaints to you, but only if your Utils are still globals, are they?
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20:19.06Kaeltenknarf^: what are you rying to pattern?
20:19.35yacoobhaste, any reason for that? And are those continued, and if yes - where?
20:19.50hasteyacoob: well, them being globals = bad, only that
20:19.54knarf^Kaelten itemLinks :) i'm trying to make a function work that takes in [item1] [item2] as args
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20:20.35yacoobhaste, mhm. Any "official" replacement for oCB then? :)
20:20.37Kaeltenok so you want to take an item link as an arg and get what out?
20:21.23hasteyacoob: no, not yet. I'm playing with oUF atm, since it shares some code with oCB
20:21.35hasteyacoob: and I don't really want to play with that part while working on oCB :)
20:21.41knarf^Kaelten well to start form the beginning, I wanted to make a command in AceOption /AceConsole that took in multiple args, input=true in a text means that it splits at " " thus also splitting if the item has a space in its name
20:22.12knarf^brb my dad is asking
20:22.21Kaeltenok, but I'm still trying to figure out what your regex is trying to get
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20:25.14knarf^Kaelten back :P
20:26.07knarf^okay so I got input=false in my option table thus when I use my command in wow I get the entire string after my slashcommand, I need to chop that string up, explode the itemlinks :)
20:26.07Xuerianhaste: Sorry, been outside. unitFromPlayerName and tokenizestring are the only globals xloot sets, apart from XLoot itself, afaik
20:26.23Xuerianhaste: And I can change those if they're posing conflicts
20:26.47hasteXuerian: (you forgot the SV). It's just that it shouldn't be globals imo, nothing more
20:27.26hasteI use the SVN version anyway, so I can change stuff without it being removed when updating
20:27.56Xuerianhaste: Yeah, but you're right, I shouldn't add globals anyway. I'll just stick them in XLoot and pull local references when I use them
20:28.28hasteI think you had some leaked globals also, just let me check my notes
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20:29.40hasteXuerian: global list of XLoot (and only XLoot): XLoot unitFromPlayerName tokenizestring nilTable iteratetable sgsub (_ is being ignored)
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20:29.55hastealso the SV, as it's in the TOC :)
20:29.58GnarfozWiki and Forums have separate users, right?
20:30.00sylvanaarsoz did you figure out the bug with ORA2 and Prat?
20:30.18yacoobso what should I do in order to get oCB back? :)
20:31.29hasteXuerian: that list also ignored globals defined by using _G :)
20:31.31sylvanaarIf you want the errors to go away when LoD ORA2, use the Ora2 menu and set the alpha of the maintank and playertanks to 1
20:31.58knarf^Kaelten if that made any sense :)
20:32.13Kaeltennope :s
20:32.15Kaelten:(
20:32.33hasteWhen you want help with your code, pastey :)
20:32.52pastamancersounds like he wants to split on whitespace that isn't inside an item link
20:33.16knarf^Kaelten Well first a question, can you make a slashcommand that takes multiple args where the args can contain spaces?
20:33.33knarf^in the AceConsole lib? :)
20:33.44hasteby using text, yes
20:34.18Xuerianiteratetable and nilTable are globals? Yeah, yeah, you're right. I only use _G to access frames iirc, but your script could prove me wrong again :p
20:34.30Xuerianhaste: Thanks for the pointers, I've got a bit to do, but I'll clean it up when I get back in
20:34.43knarf^haste well I haven't found an example to show it and this is why i'm toying around with regex atm because instead of input = true, i've got input = false and i'm trying to parse the single argument i'm getting from the slashcommand :)
20:35.19hasteXuerian: It's not a script (or actually it partly is), I just run my release script on XLoot
20:35.40Xuerianhaste: Ahh, I'd be interested in seeing it :)
20:35.43hasteXuerian: it compiles the code and parses the output for vars that are set as globals
20:36.04hasteXuerian: the part you would be interested in is: luac -l -p file.lua
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20:36.38hasteXuerian: the rest is just building of changelog, building of tag, adding latest dongle, check for leaked globals, and finally zip it and update the version number in the toc
20:36.43knarf^I tried having input = true, thus [item of doom with spaces] [item2] would be the 2 args I expected, instead I got, arg1=item arg2=of arg3= doom arg4=with and so on :<
20:36.47haste~laziness
20:36.58purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
20:37.36XuerianXD
20:37.40XuerianExcellent. Thanks :)
20:37.59hasteyou should make it an habbit, and check for leaked globals :)
20:38.06hasteNot many people do it
20:38.20hasteYou've probably seen the diff I got posted on the US forum for the blizz ui
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20:38.30XuerianI don't read the wow forums <.<
20:38.34NayonYo
20:38.48XuerianIt's something akin to pulling teeth when on dialup :p
20:38.49vhaarrhaste: Link?
20:38.55Xuerianyeah, link would be good XD
20:39.10NayonAnyone ever work with java?
20:39.16hastevhaarr: http://hastey.pastey.net/5559-2onl
20:39.20pastamancerknarf^: you might have better luck with "|c[^|]+|H[^|]+|h%[[^%]]+%]|h|r"
20:39.34mexicaanParserLib can't identify if a self damage was done with main hand or off hand, or cna it ?
20:40.00knarf^pastamancer i'll give it a try :)
20:40.04hastevhaarr: It's mainly leaked globals, with some minor changes on a couple parts
20:40.24steinohaste is releasing his secretz codz
20:40.25vhaarrhaste: cool
20:40.27steinoammigawd!
20:40.39haste:-P
20:41.04knarf^pastamancer YAY
20:41.20pastamancerknarf^: . is greedy, it'll try to match as much as possible
20:41.50knarf^havent' used regex that much but I did recall . being greedy though :)
20:42.10Hjaltepastamancer: I don't know if you can answer this, but the incoming heals indicator in Grid did once not show my own heals, but not it does. Is that correct?
20:42.22pastamancerHjalte: yes, it changed
20:42.37vhaarrhaste: Got a blue response?
20:43.15hastevhaarr: check page 3 of the 2.1.0 conc. list thread, it's only a "thank I'll look at it" as far as I remmeber
20:43.26vhaarrheh
20:43.36knarf^pastamancer so after |c what does [^ |] evaluate too? does not make much sense to me since ^ means it should be the first, or am I just not understanding regex ?
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20:43.43hasteIt's not changed in 2.0.7 at least
20:43.57HjaltePastamancer: Does that not kind of defeat the purpose then? That way, i have no way to see if anyone else than me is healing the player
20:44.04vhaarrhaste: silly
20:45.04JoshBorkeknarf^: [^ |] tells lua to not match ' ' or '|'
20:46.03pastamancerHjalte: it gives you feedback to let you know you click-healed the right person
20:46.19pastamancerHjalte: I might make an option for it though
20:46.32HjaltePastamancer: That'd be very nice. But I see your point
20:47.29pastamancerknarf^: [set] is a set, [^set] is a negated set.  [set] matches 's' or 'e' or 't', [^set] matches anything that is not 's' or 'e' or 't'
20:47.48knarf^oh
20:48.17knarf^well I where looking at http://www.regular-expressions.info/anchors.html
20:48.37JoshBorkeonly when ^ is at the beginning of a string
20:48.54pastamanceralso, lua isn't normal regex
20:49.02pastamancerit's... odd
20:49.19knarf^hmm maybe thats why i'm even more uncertain how it functions then :P
20:49.40pastamancerthe lua manual describes all of the options
20:50.45pastamancerhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1
20:51.36knarf^hmm some have prolly made the addon i'm making already :P
20:51.45CIA-1703benumbed * r28104 10Epeen/ (14 files in 4 dirs): Epeen - Added Warn Window and some touchups
20:51.46knarf^haven't found one though :>
20:51.51JoshBorkebb all
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20:53.59Xuerianhaste: What affect does -l (list) have on luac's output?
20:54.16ZealotOnAStickwth, 2.0.8?
20:54.21Xuerian(I'd check, but it crashes on me, so I don't quite know what I'm missing)
20:54.32XuerianZealotOnAStick: Arena scoreboard corrections
20:54.52hasteXuerian: It lists the virtual machine codes then, which is what you use to check for globals
20:55.10Xuerianhaste: Ah
20:57.28Saint-Nmmm cashews
20:57.40Saint-Nthe store across the street sells 1/2 lbs bags for 4$
20:58.25xyuhmm i'm having a problem with wau.  its saying could not find part of the path"  and comes up w/ a Unhandled exception.  It says i need to edit my wow path in Edit -> pref.
20:58.33xyubut it's grayed out to me, and i cannot select it
20:58.42Saint-Nrm the dir and reget it?
20:59.21Saint-Nwhat other level 70 priest books are there? ive got pof3 and posp2
21:00.08nevcairielthats about it iirc
21:00.58yacoobso, any replacement for oCB?
21:01.24ArilawI wish ven would put up vAssist on wowace. :|
21:01.35ArilawI need a good 5-man assist window.
21:02.02evlAnyway to get ag_UF to _only_ display debuffs on party frames?
21:02.35vhaarrevl: Yes?
21:03.05pastamancerevl: I think you can do that with a custom theme
21:03.09Xuerianhaste: Extremely weird. luac5.1 -l -p XLoot.lua crashes after it outputs <x instructions...\n 1, [2] 0_o
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21:03.39hasteXuerian: works fine here, but I have 5.1.1 and I run Linux :)
21:03.43knarf^pastamancer thanks for the help :)
21:04.12pastamancerknarf^: no problem.  I know regex can be tricky.
21:04.22Saint-Nyacoob: ecastingbar does both you and them, ag_uf has it built into the unitframes iirr
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21:04.46Saint-Nyou can also make aguf not show buffs just by selecting the correct aura option ;P
21:05.18pastamancerI haven't used aguf in a while, did Miles's aura revamp finally make it in?
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21:06.10knarf^I think aguf is super annoying reguarding auras :< not being able to show all debuffs or selected ones, annoys me I can't see Mortal Strike :P
21:06.16Amadeobleh, I installed that MazzleUI to see what all the fuss was about
21:06.35AmadeoI guess it has a nice configuration, but I'm not crazy about my character yelling stupid shit out when I log in
21:06.52pastamancerI thought it was just when you closed the config thingy
21:06.52Saint-Nyou can turn it off ;P
21:07.01Saint-Nand it only does it after you mazzlefy
21:07.18Amadeoit's a little ridiculous to have spam in an addon
21:07.29Saint-Nthe panelbox is nicce, and the unitframes are nice
21:07.41Saint-Nthe rest i replaced configured and tweaked with what i was using prior
21:07.51Saint-Njust not enough buttons and too many assumed keybindings
21:07.52ArilawagUF needs to adjust itself to take FuBar into account. :P
21:08.20AmadeoI really liked agUF, and it has great potential, but it falls short on a few things that I find are major :(
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21:09.15ckknightokay, I'm gonna roll a Druid for kicks while I wait for my brother to run me through SM and thus reach 40 on my Shaman
21:09.29Saint-Ncrazy!!!
21:09.34Saint-Noh ckk
21:09.47ckknightI need a name, though...
21:09.49Saint-Nthat death arrow rules
21:09.53ckknightalso, may do female...
21:09.55ckknightnot sure
21:10.01knarf^can grid be used as party frames ?
21:10.02evl<Saint-N> you can also make aguf not show buffs just by selecting the correct aura option ;P
21:10.03evlsince when
21:10.09evli can only filter them meaning i can't see debuffs either
21:10.09Saint-Nknarf^: sorta yeah
21:10.10Gnarfozever
21:10.17evlwhat option where
21:10.17ThorgardAmadeo, which major things are you talking about?
21:10.47Saint-Nim not using it anymore but i swear there was a "show good auras and show bad auras" option somewhere in there
21:10.47knarf^I tried grid, when PerfectRaid was not working, damn it is not very easy to get into :<
21:10.57Saint-Ni find grid annoying
21:11.05Saint-Nitslike a retarded whack a mole set up
21:11.07knarf^Saint-N that buff thing is crap in aguf imho :<
21:11.08AmadeoThorgard: Well, I've wanted the buff/debuff auras to be moveable since agUF began :)  Also, party pets never work right... and the current aura system ends up filling the whole screen when there are a lot of buffs and you want to see them all
21:11.10ThorgardGrid needs some decent defaults. ;P
21:11.25kergothhealing is whack a mole, whatever unitframes you use :p
21:11.34Saint-Nnurfed's untiframes are pretty nice too
21:11.36knarf^as a priest I find it annoying not knowing my tank has Mortal Strike :P
21:11.37sylvanaari use xperl
21:11.44AmadeoI'm using xperl now also
21:11.54Saint-Nhehe in 40mans yeah kerg
21:11.56knarf^xperl is too "bloated" imho :>
21:11.56Amadeobut it has a high increasing rate in combat
21:12.01ThorgardI don't use unit frames.. I simply know which unit needs healing and press the buttons accordingly.
21:12.01Saint-Ni loved that about rdx
21:12.12pastamancerknarf^: try Grid ;)
21:12.18Amadeoknarf^: the actual warmup numbers are pretty light with xperl, I just remove the raid stuff and use my own addons for that
21:12.27AmadeoI also didn't need the TS notifier etc
21:12.28Saint-Nsomeone actually made an overlay for thier layout that showed moles heads when the person was below a threshold and the mole went away when they were fine
21:12.48Saint-Nclick2cast+smartbuff
21:12.51knarf^Amadeo don't care about that :) there is just too much crap in it :P and I like how aguf is more sleek or whatever its called :)
21:12.53Saint-Nthats really all ya need
21:12.59Saint-Ngrid is overkill imo
21:13.05AmadeoI was hoping to go back to Sage, but Tuller just vanished one day and never came back
21:13.36Saint-Nwelp gotta go sell a rackmount... back later
21:13.58sylvanaari dont care, its a GC'd runtime and i have a gig of ram, my total memory usage remains flat
21:13.59Amadeokergoth: kUF? :P
21:14.37knarf^pastamancer the default setting for grid is confusing imho, compared to sRaidFrames / PerfectRaid and such :)
21:15.00XuerianWasn't meant to be raid frames, knarf^
21:15.25CIA-1703kaelten * r28105 10uiQuery/ (uiQuery-1.0/ uiQuery-1.0/uiQuery-1.0.lua uiQuery.toc): uiQuery: Chaining, twisted? Yes. Working? Yes.
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21:15.37knarf^Xuerian it is still confusing at first glance :)
21:15.43XuerianKaelten: uiQuery? o.0
21:15.50Kaeltenya
21:16.39Xueriannasty.
21:16.58Thorgard:(
21:17.30sylvanaarwhatss that
21:17.30GnarfozI wonder if that dialogue actually carried any information
21:17.32Kaeltenui(CreateFrame("Frame",nil,"UIParent"):SetWidth(500):SetHeight(500):SetScale(.64):SetBackdrop(backdrop):SetBackdropColor(24/255, 24/255, 24/255):SetPoint("CENTER", nil, "CENTER")
21:17.34Gnarfoz;D
21:17.57knarf^Anyone in here have had problems with ItemRackFu ?
21:18.09Amadeoargh...
21:18.11wobinInteresting chaining, Kael
21:18.12ThorgardMan.. ItemRack2 isn't Deuced!?
21:18.15ArilawOutfitter 4lyfe <3
21:18.17AmadeoMazzle screwed up all my hotkeys
21:18.20Xuerianmah gawsh
21:18.33ThorgardHar har har.
21:18.46Kaeltenwobin: hehe, it makes me happy
21:18.49Kaeltenlol
21:19.19yacoobI don't like my ui :/
21:19.22XuerianKaelten: Are you taking bets on what ckknight's hospital bill for the impending hernia will be?
21:19.30ckknighthernia?
21:19.30Kaeltenewe
21:19.33Thorgardyacoob, I don't like your UI either. :/
21:19.36yacoobcan you throw some screenshots at me, to give me some ideas?
21:19.57Xuerian:P
21:20.06AmadeoDoes WoW store your hotkeys server side?
21:20.08ckknightcool idea, Kaelten
21:20.17ckknightbut you're missing a parenthesis
21:20.37kergothKaelten: how do you handle an error mid way through the chain?  will it do a usual error() which you could catch with a pcall, or..?
21:21.29ArilawAmadeo: It stores where you put your abilities but not the actual keybindings.
21:21.59AmadeoArilaw: Yeah..that's what I meant...I really wish it didn't
21:22.10ArilawWhy?
21:22.12ArilawI hate setting that up every time.
21:22.15Kaeltenkergoth: hrm as it is right now its going to cancel the rest of the chain
21:22.30Kaeltenregular errors
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21:22.47trh_wow.. acecomm is amazing.. didn't though it could handle parameters that exceed the length of one whisper :)
21:22.49Gnarfozit does because the default UI handles that well, custom action bar addons make it a mess, that's not blizzard's problem tho ^^
21:22.52trh_thoughz :)
21:22.53AmadeoArilaw: Because when you switch addons, say bar addons, all your buttons are screwed up!
21:22.55trh_thought...
21:23.06AmadeoGnarfoz: Would be fine to just store it in a file
21:23.37kergothKaelten: will need a clean way to capture exactly which of the calls died.. and itd be nice to have an option to allow it to continue, returning the ui object even on failure of a call, and then capture which of the many calls failed and which didnt..
21:23.41kergothhmm
21:23.46Gnarfozbrainfuck itself is good for some hernia, take a look at it, Xuerian ^^
21:23.52kergothtoo bad we dont have exceptions
21:23.55kergoththough you can emulate them
21:23.56XuerianGnarfoz: I am :p
21:24.21Kaeltenhrm I'm not real sure how to handle that kinda stuff ker :s
21:24.35Kaeltenhavn't messed with lua and errors too much other than to say Fuck me!
21:24.36knarf^yacoob http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot010507114353oy1.jpg <-- my ui ^^
21:24.37kergothyeah, its ugly
21:24.39kergothhehe
21:25.50kergothargh, i hate running outo f disk space on my dev box
21:25.51wobinknarf^: Hehe, acefanboiim in the chat =)
21:25.58knarf^wobin :P
21:26.13Gnarfozf.x. => e.g.
21:26.35knarf^stop corecting my spelling ^^
21:26.51knarf^phun intended :>
21:27.01wobinoh
21:27.05wobinfor example
21:27.24wobinI've never seen that contraction
21:27.32knarf^i'm Danish :>
21:27.54trh_kergoth: time for just another harddisk :) (i'm currently at 400+300+160 gb :)
21:28.00knarf^can't remember hwere I picked it up though :>
21:28.21pastamanceridd? :p
21:28.25knarf^trh_ pft i'm at ~500 gb thats more than enough :<
21:28.29Sarozhttp://random-guild.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_020607_232801.jpg << My UI :p
21:28.48trh_knarf^: ya.. theoretically.. but i'm lazy, so i never delete anything.. i just buy another hd if one is full
21:28.56Gnarfozyup, also fugly
21:28.57Gnarfoz;D
21:29.01knarf^trh_ i'm short of cash :P
21:29.31trh_knarf^: me too ;) but harddisks are cheap.. 114eur for the 400gb :)
21:29.34sylvanaari have WoW in its own partition thats about it
21:30.16knarf^oh well time to check if my addon works as intended :>
21:30.38wobinknarf^: It -always- Works As Intended =)
21:31.20HjalteKaelten: I'm using the KC_Items found on wowace.com/files but for some reason, it refuses to put a price tag on sunfury signets, even though i have scanned the AH several times and also confirmed that there are some on the AH
21:31.31knarf^My addon is called ItemUpgradeHelper, guess what it is supposed to do :>
21:31.32sylvanaarthe first 10% of a hard disk has great performance, so always split mine 90/10
21:31.51wobinknarf^: Heal my raid for me?
21:32.15knarf^wobin i'm afraid you would need AutoIt for that :P
21:32.21Sarozknarf^, gief
21:32.56knarf^could be funny though making an entire bot guild that could raid, and cooperate, atleast I think so :S
21:33.35wobinYou could call the alliance side the Autobots, and the hordeside the Decepticons
21:33.55trh_sylvanaar: in my opinion the performance difference is so small it doesn't matter.. as long as the files aren't fragmented too much
21:35.21knarf^wobin anyway the addon is supposed to compare 2 items and write what I would gain / loose by equiping the one, over the other :>
21:35.38Sarozgief
21:35.59trh_knarf^: sounds good.. will it be for every class? :)
21:36.04knarf^Sorta like EQCompare next lvl :>
21:36.18knarf^EQCompare lazy version :P
21:36.20durcynyou're updating ItemCompare?
21:36.23knarf^nope
21:36.29knarf^i'm just making an addon :P
21:36.41knarf^that instead of showing a tooltip does some calculations
21:36.52trh_knarf^: i mean.. will it compare attackpower to crit and stuff, so someone would get something like an "UPGRADE NOW!!!" or "vendor it" ? :)
21:36.56knarf^trh_ I plan to, untill now it just compares the to items :>
21:37.20knarf^trh_ I guess you could set some default values to what would be a gain or a loss :P
21:37.44trh_sounds great... but include profiles for those :)
21:37.45cncfanaticsany library/mixin around for ace like specialevents_aura but then for items ?
21:37.55trh_so i could make pvp profile and a pve profile and such stuff :)
21:38.23knarf^well I can make a post with it on the forum once i'm done, atm its just a function where you put in 2 items and it compares them :P
21:38.27SarozAnyone know if PaintBall is still working?
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21:38.43Thorgard1. Set values to all the different item stats 2. Let us change 'em and make profiles out of them 3. ????? 4. Profit
21:38.45wobinSaroz: I haven't changed it since before 2.0
21:39.17knarf^I want it to be able to compare mh + oh vs a 2h :P
21:39.17Sarozwobin, but does it work?
21:39.23wobinI don't know =)
21:39.25Saroz!!
21:39.36kergothcncfanatics: what about items?  theres a specialevents lib for bags, and another for loot
21:39.39Sarozneed it for leading
21:39.49wobinThere'll be issues about targetting during combat
21:40.01wobinbut I haven't been in a raid since 2.0, really =p
21:40.04Sarozeven out of combat would be uber
21:40.05Saroz:|
21:41.23Xueriancncfanatics: I just wrote a loot lib, se-loot
21:41.26trh_knarf^: if possible i think a nice function would be to show 2 windows with the char rendered once in the one item and once with the other one :)
21:41.26Xueriancncfanatics: If that's what yo mean
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21:42.19knarf^trh_ I where thinking on autocomparison upon a loot window so it tells you if its ninjaworthy or not :P
21:42.31trh_lol :)
21:42.35knarf^well
21:42.44knarf^ninja may not be the correct word :P
21:43.01trh_"if its worth to roll on" :)
21:43.16knarf^just a quick compareision of the item you are currently wearing vs the one in the roll window :P
21:43.23knarf^compare*
21:44.27cncfanaticskergoth can only find loot one
21:44.30cncfanaticsXuerian, any API doc ?
21:44.56Xueriancncfanatics: http://wowace.com/wiki/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0
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21:45.15knarf^btw ItemBonusLib is that embedded only or am I just a tard at implementing that? :P
21:45.17cncfanaticsthats loot, not bags :(
21:45.30Xueriancncfanatics: ah, didn't read back far enough
21:45.52Xuerianhttp://wowace.com/wiki/SpecialEventsModules#Bags
21:45.54kergoththe bags seevent was one of the first ones to exist
21:45.56kergothits in the wiki
21:45.57XuerianNOt sure that's the latest API
21:47.13cncfanaticsXuerian, any lib to get amounts of items of a certain type in inv and such, supplying name or texture
21:47.58kergoththeres a blizzard api function for the former
21:48.01kergothGetItemCount() or so
21:48.04Xueriancncfanatics: not sure about texture, but you can do it for the former
21:48.18ckknightKaelten: did you code up your ui thing yet?
21:48.24Xuerianreturn "|cffaaaaaa"..tostring(GetItemCount(item) + new).."|r"
21:48.38Kaeltenckknight: hrm?
21:48.50ckknightchaining functions thing
21:48.54Kaeltenya
21:49.01KaeltenuiQuery has the chaining in it
21:49.06kergothXuerian: btw, tahnks for the totals in xlootmonitor.  love that feature, not using my own lootalert anymore :)
21:49.27ckknightokay
21:49.29Xueriankergoth: :D
21:49.31ckknightlemme look at code...
21:49.58Kaeltenit builds and caches a wrapper function
21:53.20ckknightyep, I coded up my own version for kicks
21:53.27ckknightmuch more efficient, should be
21:53.31cncfanaticskergoth, can GetItemCount use item names ?
21:53.32ckknightlemme pastey
21:53.41Sarozlol
21:53.49Sarozjust made Ace throw a Stack Overflow
21:54.02SarozCookies?!
21:54.37SarozAceLibrary
21:54.44Sarozhrm, wonder why
21:55.08knarf^now I can't use self:Print in a function all of a sudden, whats up with that
21:55.27ckknightKaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/6731
21:55.31kergothknarf^: you're doing something wrong.  probably didnt pass self or something
21:55.34wobinknarf^: Are you using self.Print()?
21:55.35MoonWolfbecause self does not have Print in its namespace.
21:55.46wobinor defining the function with a '.'
21:55.49MoonWolfwhy THAT is could be anything.
21:56.14knarf^i'm just using self:Print("amazing text in a function");
21:56.50knarf^worked fine in another function, then i removed that part into its own function and now self is nil ^^
21:57.29MoonWolfhow is the function define, where is it called and how ?
21:58.23knarf^function CompareItemsParseArgs(itemLinks) ........ end
21:58.45Xuerianthere's no 'self' to be called. o_0
21:59.08knarf^hmm
21:59.11knarf^i'm a retard
21:59.12knarf^:P
21:59.27kergothyou arent passing self, like i said :P
21:59.55Xueriankergoth: Second time's the charm apparently
22:00.20knarf^hey I'm not entirely sure how ace works, but I forgot to define my function ItemUpgradeHelper:CompareItemsParseArgs(itemLinks)
22:00.23knarf^^^
22:00.30knarf^So what exactly does the: do again ? :P
22:00.50knarf^i've spent loads of time with lua you can imagine ^^
22:01.06hasteRead PiL, it helps
22:01.27hasteit has nothing to do with Ace really
22:02.40hasteand even thought I sound like an ass telling you this. I know that you will benefit from it, instead of me just telling you what happens, and how lua sees it.
22:03.19knarf^haste, meh my own fault jumped into the trial and error method :P
22:03.21ckknightKaelten: this may be better: http://ace.pastey.net/6732
22:04.44knarf^haste hmm so its luas way of making it oo ?
22:04.57kergothits syntactic sugar, thats all
22:05.32Kaeltenckknight: hrm, i have other things planned too
22:05.59hasteknarf^: http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html
22:06.11hasteanother note, defining functions global = bad
22:06.30KaeltenI also don't see where it returns the query object :s
22:07.48knarf^haste i'll read on a little :P
22:08.00CIA-1703funkydude * r28106 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua:
22:08.00CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/ShadeOfAran:
22:08.00CIA-17- changed Flame Wreath cast message
22:08.06hasteknarf^: I would recommend you to read it all, from the start :)
22:08.21hasteEven though you know the basics, you'll most likely pick up something you didn't know
22:08.27knarf^haste is it that different from any other language? :)
22:08.54hasteI'm thinking of Lua as a whole now
22:09.05Xuerianknarf^: If you don't read it, you'll end up like me. Seven months into one addon and still getting corrections regularly from the vets :P (Which I appreciate, btw)
22:09.17haste:3
22:09.19pastamancerit's somewhere between scheme and icon with a libreral dose of its own zaniness
22:09.53knarf^Xuerian trial and error !!
22:09.54knarf^:D
22:10.42Xuerianknarf^: Read the damn book >_<
22:10.59knarf^bleh my guild needs me in karazhan now :< I wanna read programming <3
22:11.06XuerianHar :P
22:11.52hasteI wrote oRA in MC, it's possible in Kara also
22:11.58knarf^haha
22:12.23knarf^brilliant
22:12.27knarf^ingame editor? :P
22:12.33pastamanceryeah, I was reloading my ui constantly on trash in MC and in 5-mans and in onyxia
22:12.35knarf^or in the breaks? and what class :P
22:12.35hasteTinyPad
22:12.46hasteI also do work in the breaks :)
22:13.03hastebut I only have 17h of school per week
22:13.08haste_only_ maths tho', nothing else
22:13.19knarf^hehe
22:13.29ckknightKaelten: it returns it in the handle function
22:13.32ckknightwhich is called by func
22:13.43ckknightwhich is returned on __index
22:14.01knarf^haste what class did you play again btw? :D
22:14.16kenlyric|work<PROTECTED>
22:14.20ckknighteither way, there's no unneeded tables or closure creation
22:14.23hasteknarf^: Shaman/Warlock back then, Rogue now
22:14.27kenlyric|workjust got one of those little birds to tap the number 2.
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22:21.36CIA-1703funkydude * r28107 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua:
22:21.36CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/ShadeOfAran:
22:21.36CIA-17- extra trigger
22:25.25Ominouswow commit errors are so much easier to understand with commandline svn
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22:27.20rubikhmm.. what is the addon that does the actionbar button glaze-over in this screenie? http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot021007115619up6.jpg
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22:30.00Xuerianrubik: cyCircled, without ooking.
22:30.07Diabolic-Destiny!seen wobin
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22:30.33Diabolic-Destiny~seen wobin
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22:31.06XuerianI like that bar texture though...
22:31.28CIA-1703ominous * r28108 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/ (18 files in 4 dirs): FuBar_PaladinTimerFu: Palidin Timer initial import
22:31.34Diabolic-Destinyis that for bartender..
22:31.48Diabolic-Destinyn how do u change fuxfu's color
22:32.24XuerianfuXPfu's color is changed in it's menu o_0
22:33.25XuerianAnd since when did aguf get tot/tott? >_>
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22:35.56Diabolic-Destinyit always had it..
22:36.00Diabolic-Destinyiv been using it for ever..
22:37.37rubikXuerian: thanks.. thought it was cyC too.. will check it out.. and yeah, those surface/bar textures are secksee++.. they're called 'LiteStep' in the "Surface" addon on svn
22:37.38Diabolic-Destinywhy doesn't /way x,y show a big fat x on the main map..
22:37.54Xuerianrubik: Nice. That is sexy.
22:38.07Diabolic-Destinyu thkn it can b imported to bartender
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22:49.39rubikXuerian: randomly just noticed a typo in XLootMonitor.lua.. sorry, no line number.. where you set default vars.. a 'false' is spelled 'fale', it looked like? :P
22:50.10GnarfozXuerian: line 32
22:50.22Gnarfozrollwins = fale,           ^^
22:50.24CIA-1703trh * r28109 10VanasKoS/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
22:50.24CIA-17VanasKoS:
22:50.24CIA-17- added sending of kos-list to a party
22:50.25CIA-17- added sorting of kos-list
22:50.33Xuerianrubik, Gnarfoz: Got it, thanks. I'm cleaning up globals at the moment, It'll be in the commit :p
22:50.38nymbiawell it accomplishes what it needs to
22:50.45nymbiasince fale is probably nil ;)
22:51.07Gnarfozwhatever would happen if someone globally defined fale as true
22:51.07rubikhehe.. yup, i thought so
22:51.08Gnarfoz;D
22:51.14CIA-1703ominous * r28110 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/Libs/: FuBar_PaladinTimerFu: Added externals (I hope)
22:51.30trh_Gnarfoz: you can actually watch that if you listen to a woman :P
22:51.49nevcairiellol
22:51.53trh_Gnarfoz: they tend to switch false and true ;)
22:51.54Xuerianlol, nymbia.
22:51.56nevcairielgod one
22:52.09Gnarfozheh
22:58.04CIA-1703ominous * r28111 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/ (Core.lua Libs/): FuBar_PaladinTimerFu: Added keywords
22:58.14yacoobaccount management *still* not working :E
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22:58.50NeoTronit sort of makes me sad when people are saying that "omg arcatraz is so hard I'm never going there again"
22:59.01NeoTronwhen really it's not hard at all if you know what you're doing
22:59.04knarf^It is kinda hard :P
22:59.08knarf^in pugs anyway
22:59.12NeoTronit's a L70 dungeon
22:59.15knarf^yay, maidne down btw :>
22:59.19knarf^maiden*
22:59.20NeoTronlast boss is a bit tricky. but it's not that hard
22:59.30NeoTronI hope to finally get to kara on sunday
23:00.14NeoTronÍ'm just thinking if people can't do Arcatraz on normal mode, how the heck are they going to do slave pens/shattered halls/[...]/arcatraz on heroic mode? :)
23:00.29PogoTribalAnyone know what the minimap icon is between the + and - zoom buttons (not the monkey)?: http://squeakyninja.googlepages.com/WoWUpdated.jpg
23:00.50NeoTronPogoTribal: it's a Moon.
23:00.50NeoTron<PROTECTED>
23:01.08PogoTribalThanks.
23:01.10PogoTriballol
23:01.25cynyr_2.0.8???
23:01.25NeoTronthat said, I remember the icon but don't recall what it is
23:01.26NeoTronerr
23:01.30cynyr_on a thursday?
23:01.31NeoTronwait isn't it just the "time of day" icon?
23:01.33knarf^PogoTribal its coolDown
23:01.38NeoTronoh
23:01.39NeoTronheh
23:02.27knarf^try and press it, and you can move your coolDown monithingy
23:03.00NeoTronI just remember it wasn't working correctly with the minimap button moving addon
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23:03.35durcynyeah, it's actually IFrameManager, but coolDown's the only addon that uses that lib
23:03.42durcynand it isn't configurable at all
23:04.32CIA-1703ominous * r28112 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/: FuBar_PaladinTimerFu: Added externals (again lol)
23:04.55NeoTronI see
23:04.58CIA-1703gamefaq * r28113 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: deDE Updated
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23:10.44Kemayowobinwobin: http://kemayo.dyndns.org/svn/wow/trunk/WAup/WAup.py <-- that'll log to console and file, I think.
23:11.38KemayoHmm, just one wobin, actually.
23:12.47CIA-1703xuerian * r28114 10XLoot/ (XLoot.lua XLootUtilities.lua): XLoot: Utilities no longer globals.
23:14.15CIA-1703xuerian * r28115 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Proper usage of XLoot utilities, fixed typo in defaults.
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23:17.53CIA-1703xuerian * r28116 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.lua: XLootMaster: Adjusted to call XLoot utilities properly.
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23:19.43kergothmjc: ping
23:19.58CIA-1703ominous * r28117 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_PaladinTimerFu: oops readded disable if not paladin
23:20.18Barbanuswhats the first real 25 man raid?
23:20.25Barbanuslike full raid, not onyxia style
23:20.36vhaarrgruul's lair
23:21.03BarbanusI thought that was onyxia style... maybe I'm wrong
23:21.19vhaarrthere are 2 bosses in gruul's lair
23:21.28AmadeoI'm sick of Blacksmithing...it really sucks!
23:21.29vhaarr5 bosses in serpentshrine cavern
23:21.46Barbanusyea, wowwiki says its "onyxia sized" heh
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23:22.02Barbanusahh yea, that seems like the first one
23:22.14Barbanus25 man tempest keep is also a small dungeon isnt it?
23:22.44AmadeoAnyone on an Arena team?
23:23.34NightHawkTheSaneo_0 another patch? on a thursday?
23:23.35kenlyric|homeanyone got a link to that 1.7b5 build of wau? I didn't save it from work.
23:24.58kenlyric|homeso the arena wouldn't be horked (by any bugs they know about)
23:26.36NightHawkTheSaneahh, arena season starts soon doesnt it..
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23:29.31Saint-Nshutdown -h NOW
23:29.33Saint-Nerr
23:29.55NightHawkTheSaneno thanks.
23:30.03NightHawkTheSanemaybe later though?
23:30.11CIA-1703nymbia * r28118 10Sniff/Sniff.lua:
23:30.11CIA-17Sniff:
23:30.11CIA-17- Add a print when an item is looked up
23:30.16kenlyric|homearena season starts at midnight.
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23:32.06Valourwhat's the yata for in cycircled ?
23:32.14kergothi'm betting its for yata.
23:32.17kergothcrazy idea, i know
23:32.24Valour??
23:32.28Valourwhat's yata ?
23:32.37kergothyata is an addon in svn for managing totems
23:32.50Valourahh 10x
23:32.56kergothbar with 4 buttons, one for each element, which pop out the totems in that element on mouseover
23:33.19NeoTrondoes it have a memory?
23:33.25Valouranything like that for priest ?
23:33.28NeoTronso it keeps the most recently used ones on top?
23:33.33CIA-1703xuerian * r28119 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Fix for roll won event errors.
23:33.44NeoTronValour: priest totem management unfortunately do not have an addon
23:33.53Valourno i mean
23:33.58Ominousnearly at 30,000
23:34.01Valourlike for shadow form and power words
23:34.06NeoTronjoking aside you're probably looking for Serenity
23:34.12Ominousonly another 1,900 commits :P
23:34.24Valourserenity is very functionless
23:34.26kergothNeoTron: not sure, i dont actually /play/ my 60 shammy :P
23:34.29NeoTronnever tried it
23:34.34NeoTronjust know it exists
23:34.42NeoTronyet, priest management is not that complext
23:34.48Valouri have it but it's like a waster of memory
23:35.00Valouryeah but better less buttons
23:35.03NeoTronlike.. you have SW:P, SW:D, MB, MF, PW:S
23:35.04kenlyric|homeI don't know... don't have that many buffs to give, so I don't use a mod.
23:35.05NeoTronand buffing
23:35.12kenlyric|homejust SelfBuff to buff myself.
23:35.13Valourlike i don't need power word (4 buttons visible all the time)
23:35.36NeoTronjust put less used things on a hidden bar that shows on mouseover
23:35.55Valourwhich addon is for these kind of bars ?
23:36.28kergothi dont see hte point really, just shove them onto a different page of the main actionbar and set up bartender to show them on holding down alt or something :P
23:37.29Valourwho's the author of cycircled ?
23:37.45NeoTronwhat kergoth  said. Bartender 3 is a good place to start
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23:38.38Valourdo u know if there's going to be a function to make bars different skins in the future of cycircled /
23:39.14kergothyou mean each bar, or..?
23:39.21kergothyou can switch skins now, just globally
23:40.23Valouri mean bar 1 glossy bar 2 serenity bar3 same or something else
23:40.23kergothah
23:41.13Valour?
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23:42.02CIA-1703jerry * r28120 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:
23:42.02CIA-17ItemBonusLib:
23:42.02CIA-17_ fixed a bug that stopped scanning after a gem bonus.
23:42.02CIA-17_ fixed a bug that caused gem bonus not to be added.
23:42.09kergothah = a noise indicating gained understanding, and acknowlegement like saying 'i see' or similar
23:42.12kergothheh
23:42.37Barbanusbest buffing mod ever .. = pallypower
23:42.52yacoobmake up!
23:42.57Valourno i mean what's the answer ?
23:43.03Valourwith ?
23:43.17*** join/#wowace Idylla (n=a@82-33-203-65.cable.ubr04.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
23:43.48kergothValour: what? who exactly do you expect to answer?
23:43.55kergothask your question and leave it at that. if someone knows, they'll answer.
23:44.01*** join/#wowace Gastro (n=Gastro@HSI-KBW-091-089-049-012.hsi2.kabelbw.de)
23:44.10Valour4:-)
23:44.11Idyllabtw abstract question :  is there an addon that keeps track of what trinkets you've got equipped and what you have available? (kinda like the new autobar where you select what you want)
23:44.40BarbanusIdylla, I use trinketmenu
23:44.41BarbanusI love it
23:44.47IdyllaAnus :P
23:44.57Barbanusit will even swap out trinkets that are on cooldown automatically if you want
23:44.59kergothtrinketmenu is the wya to go, definately
23:45.02Ordoggogo arena!
23:45.04WobWorkKemayo: Woo, thank you
23:45.20Idyllais it acey or another? couldn't find anything with the word 'trinket' in on www.wowace.com/files
23:45.21Barbanusbut it creates a popup of the "available" trinkets in your inv, and lets you click on them to use them
23:45.30kergothtrinketmenu isnt ace
23:45.35Barbanusits not ace I dont believe, but its very nice
23:45.38kergothbut its still the best option
23:45.46Idyllakk, gooooogle time ;d
23:45.49kergothor if you're already using itemrack, it can do the trinket part too
23:45.56Barbanuscurse has it :)
23:46.05kergothand wowi, and..
23:46.07Idyllaclosetgnome ;d
23:46.42Idyllai just got a riding crop and i keep leaving it equipped in instances
23:46.42SarozBlizzard's downloader is so stupid
23:46.48Idyllathen my lame pom macro breaks :P
23:47.05Barbanusroll a paladin :P
23:47.12Barbanus20% extra speed ftw :P
23:47.36Idyllai'm a gold spendaholic, maybe i should since i'm never going to get my epic mount :P
23:47.56Idylla(full spellfire set has cost me prolly 3000g including the levelling of tailoring)
23:51.05Daemonaanyone firm with custom events for SCT? i need code for a "PWNED" on hits taken that exceed my current life and take a screenshot
23:51.08Daemona...
23:51.39Barbanuslol, you mean something that will never happen? :P
23:51.47sbuuhm?
23:52.11Barbanusyou want something that tells if you are full health, and then when you take a hit for more than max health?
23:52.58sbuno, just hits > maxhp (i guess :o)
23:53.18Idyllaso, ondead? :P
23:53.18pastamancerwouldn't that be every time you die?
23:53.44kenlyric|homeyes, but he wants the event which damaged him to say PWNED next to it.
23:53.53Idyllaahh
23:53.56pastamancergotcha
23:54.03kenlyric|homeconsidering with lag you get hit several times *after* you die, that probably won't be accurate :)
23:54.06Idyllathe killingblow effectively , but the other player =p

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