| 00:00.23 | Industrial | i hate valentine |
| 00:00.46 | Xuerian | Hate? o.0 |
| 00:00.50 | Industrial | Warriordude yells: FIX PLOX!!! FIX HEART PLOX!@!! |
| 00:00.59 | Xuerian | ... |
| 00:01.27 | rubik | ughh.. why does an svn co of trunk/Decursive *still* prompt me for password? can someone fix that somehow? |
| 00:01.33 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@88-109-7-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 00:01.53 | Industrial | are you using the dev svn? |
| 00:01.59 | rubik | no sir |
| 00:02.01 | Xuerian | rubik: Because *someone* used dev. for the externals |
| 00:02.03 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric|home (n=Jason@adsl-76-214-137-170.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:02.03 | rubik | Authentication realm: <http://dev.wowace.com:80> Subversion Repository |
| 00:02.08 | rubik | right |
| 00:02.21 | rubik | can only the author fix that or any of you svn gods? |
| 00:02.31 | Xuerian | That *someone* needs to be wtfbotslapped |
| 00:02.50 | rubik | i'd endorse such action |
| 00:02.50 | Ominous_ | ckk: what is the table in Register({}, function()... end) for |
| 00:03.03 | ckknight | Ominous_: validation check |
| 00:03.11 | ckknight | Ominous_: if you only want to get heals, { eventType = "Heal" } |
| 00:03.30 | ckknight | if you only want things you do, { sourceName = UnitName("player") } |
| 00:03.41 | vhaarr | rubik: dev.wowace.com is restricted. |
| 00:03.45 | rubik | right |
| 00:03.46 | vhaarr | rubik: use svn.wowace.com |
| 00:03.48 | Ominous_ | ah k, would you recomend registering once and doing the type seperation in 1 function or registering many times with different validation |
| 00:03.55 | rubik | but why is he linking his externals out of dev.? |
| 00:04.03 | vhaarr | because he's an asshat |
| 00:04.04 | rubik | i'm checking out from svn.wowace.com |
| 00:04.20 | haste | vhaarr: I have something for you btw |
| 00:04.21 | rubik | hah.. gotcha |
| 00:04.28 | Xuerian | I'd change it, but I'm getting 203b/s .... Damn shared dialup >_> |
| 00:04.30 | ckknight | Ominous_: depends on how many times. |
| 00:04.35 | vhaarr | haste: ah, yeah |
| 00:04.40 | vhaarr | rubik: I'll fix |
| 00:04.40 | rubik | i guess i'll post in the decursive thread so he can fix it.. no big deal |
| 00:04.50 | ckknight | Ominous_: if you're doing a _lot_ of little ones, I'd think maybe do a few big registrations |
| 00:04.51 | rubik | only if not a big deal.. no rush here |
| 00:05.13 | pastamancer | vhaarr: bah, let the author deal with it |
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| 00:05.32 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: ! |
| 00:05.39 | Thrae | Who's working on agUF right now? |
| 00:05.45 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: ! |
| 00:05.55 | vhaarr | pastamancer: alright |
| 00:05.55 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: you get my note about CastCommLib? |
| 00:06.05 | vhaarr | pastamancer: but why? it takes 20 seconds to fix. |
| 00:06.05 | haste | vhaarr: http://hastey.pastey.net/6508-15ef << I never committed it as I never got to test it, but it should work |
| 00:06.08 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: I guess not |
| 00:06.16 | vhaarr | haste: ah hm |
| 00:06.17 | pastamancer | vhaarr: so he learns his lesson! |
| 00:06.21 | JoshBorke | i bumped the thread on wowi, but basically are you going to release it? |
| 00:06.23 | vhaarr | haste: I'll take a look and commit if it's good |
| 00:06.28 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: it is released |
| 00:06.30 | vhaarr | pastamancer: okay, good reason |
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| 00:06.50 | haste | vhaarr: you might want to make it more 'bigwigs general', I made it mainly for my guild, so no more then needed is there |
| 00:06.55 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: or do you not consider that forum post a relase? |
| 00:06.55 | haste | vhaarr: in the form of messages and so on |
| 00:07.09 | haste | vhaarr: oh, and I wrote it at 6:30 AM :) |
| 00:07.12 | vhaarr | haste: sure |
| 00:07.15 | vhaarr | haste: I know ;) |
| 00:07.15 | JoshBorke | no, i consider releasing it to a wesite like wowi more of a release :-) |
| 00:07.36 | JoshBorke | especially since someone will be looking through downloads for libs like taht rather than a forum thread |
| 00:07.36 | pastamancer | It's jut one file! |
| 00:07.44 | Ominous_ | ckk: well i have to say the output seems simple :) |
| 00:07.57 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27880 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 00:07.58 | CIA-17 | Parser-3.0 - now uses Roster-2.1's :GetUnitIDFromName if it's available. |
| 00:07.58 | CIA-17 | - now requires eventType to be set in registrations. Available types: "Damage", "Notification", "Heal", "Environmental", "Miss". - Optimizations because of this. |
| 00:08.07 | JoshBorke | unless they decide to disembed it! then it's 2! |
| 00:08.18 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: touché |
| 00:08.23 | ckknight | Ominous_: it's meant to be simple and fast. |
| 00:08.32 | JoshBorke | touch? |
| 00:08.41 | pastamancer | touche |
| 00:08.45 | Xuerian | Touchy your tushie. |
| 00:08.46 | JoshBorke | oh, ok |
| 00:09.12 | pastamancer | I guess the accented e got lost somewhere between 8-bit and 7-bit |
| 00:11.06 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27881 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - move unlocalized strings to the top so it's easier to reference |
| 00:11.30 | TheKarn | do people still use ASCII only clients? |
| 00:11.38 | JoshBorke | i totally just saw: JoshBorke: touch? |
| 00:12.09 | pastamancer | I think screen probably doesn't UTF8 yet |
| 00:12.19 | JoshBorke | i'm using gaim atm |
| 00:12.21 | rubik | hmm.. my irssi is screened and i saw it |
| 00:12.24 | NeoTron | I run irssi in screen in an xterm via ssh |
| 00:12.25 | NeoTron | it's there |
| 00:12.30 | rubik | yup |
| 00:12.44 | pastamancer | oh, then it's all gaim's fault! |
| 00:12.45 | rubik | we rule |
| 00:12.56 | NeoTron | it's no different than for example åäö really |
| 00:13.13 | NeoTron | not like it's a euro sign or something |
| 00:13.34 | rubik | well.. technically french is in europe but yeah.. :P (j/k) |
| 00:13.44 | rubik | omg.. s/french/france/ |
| 00:14.52 | rubik | does it only sub if it matches ^s/...? |
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| 00:14.52 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 00:14.52 | Xuerian | dah, realized that after I stared at it for a second :P |
| 00:14.56 | Chinku | nymbia: there you are :-) |
| 00:16.09 | Chinku | nymbia: I have some problems with adding new defaults to manufac - could you give me a hint where to put them and how? there seems to be some encoding in use in manufac-defaults and manufac-defaultsbase. |
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| 00:23.50 | Ominous | ckk: whats wrong with AceLibrary("Parser-3.0"):Register({ eventType = "Miss"}, self.Miss) ? |
| 00:24.17 | ckknight | nothing, afaik |
| 00:24.19 | ckknight | did it give an error? |
| 00:24.40 | ckknight | note that it'll feed in self.Miss(t), not self:Miss(t) |
| 00:24.55 | ckknight | (may fix that for later) |
| 00:24.58 | Ominous | oh... k |
| 00:25.13 | Ominous | whats the best way to get it to feed self:Miss(t)? |
| 00:25.33 | Ominous | function(t) self:Miss(t) end? |
| 00:25.40 | ckknight | that works |
| 00:25.57 | ckknight | that's what I'll be doing, I think |
| 00:26.18 | Ominous | oki |
| 00:26.19 | Barbanus | man, switching from ruby => lua fucks me up |
| 00:26.32 | ckknight | okay, I got it so that I register all the things into an AceLocale thingy |
| 00:26.36 | ckknight | how should one access it? |
| 00:26.41 | ckknight | :GetAceLocale22Instance()? |
| 00:26.53 | deltron | ~seen mallen |
| 00:27.19 | purl | mallen <~matthew@user.lith.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #freedesktop, 753d 4h 9m 1s ago, saying: 'ajax, we use araxis here instead of the built in p4 diff'. |
| 00:27.19 | vhaarr | ckknight: why would you need to access it? |
| 00:27.19 | ckknight | vhaarr: if you want the localized version of "Miss" or something |
| 00:27.19 | ckknight | without needing to worry about it |
| 00:27.28 | ckknight | so you'd do L[t.spell] |
| 00:27.32 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 00:27.33 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 00:27.51 | ckknight | cause it's all done with english identifiers now |
| 00:27.53 | ckknight | like "Miss" |
| 00:27.55 | vhaarr | ckknight: but you just register with "Miss", right? No need to pass in localized types? |
| 00:27.56 | ckknight | which'll always be English |
| 00:28.00 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:28.15 | vhaarr | then I don't think it's needed really |
| 00:28.23 | vhaarr | but could make it available just for fun |
| 00:28.23 | ckknight | in your frontend addon code, you can access the right stuff really easily, though |
| 00:28.33 | ckknight | I'll make it available and see if anyone uses it |
| 00:28.34 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:28.55 | Barbanus | I'm confused on what the purpose is, so I'll refrain from commenting |
| 00:28.58 | ckknight | it'd be handy not having to localize "Drowning" in every mod manually |
| 00:28.58 | vhaarr | ckknight: maybe AceLocale needs a IsLTRLocale boolean method |
| 00:29.14 | ckknight | IsLTRLocale? |
| 00:29.14 | ckknight | ...what? |
| 00:29.15 | vhaarr | as opposed to RTL |
| 00:29.26 | ckknight | nah |
| 00:29.31 | vhaarr | since some string.format sequences are opposite for those two |
| 00:29.32 | ckknight | just use L.reverse[thingy]] |
| 00:29.39 | vhaarr | err |
| 00:29.48 | Rophy | hey ckknight |
| 00:29.53 | ckknight | hey Rophy |
| 00:29.55 | ckknight | you're alive |
| 00:30.09 | Rophy | just awake, i saw your thougts about the parser idea |
| 00:30.12 | vhaarr | ckknight: For example with "Thing %d of %d.", RTL locales will want the first format parameter second, and the second first. |
| 00:30.34 | ckknight | vhaarr: oh, you do "Thing %2$d of %1$d" |
| 00:30.47 | ckknight | Rophy: take a look at it, see what you think |
| 00:30.47 | vhaarr | aha |
| 00:31.32 | Rophy | ckknight: for {source=self} without crit=true, you still have to parse crit=true. |
| 00:32.14 | ckknight | Rophy: well, it'll return both crit = false and crit = true for you |
| 00:32.17 | ckknight | you get both in that case. |
| 00:32.25 | ckknight | note: there are no nils. |
| 00:32.30 | ckknight | which simplifies things immensely. |
| 00:32.31 | Rophy | I mean, you can't just skip some patterns, so I think that's just a matter of the API? |
| 00:32.45 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 00:32.49 | ckknight | it catches both. |
| 00:33.19 | Rophy | I'm thinking about the algorithm, API is another thing. |
| 00:34.00 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27882 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - added :GetAceLocale22Instance(), which'll convert the English identifiers to the local tongue. |
| 00:34.13 | Rophy | since many people just came out and said that 'ParserLib performs bad' but when I asked them how to improve, I still don't hear anything about a possible better algorithm. |
| 00:34.33 | ckknight | Rophy: oh, well, mine uses a rare word check and such |
| 00:34.40 | ckknight | did ParserLib do that? |
| 00:34.48 | ckknight | 1.1, I mean |
| 00:34.56 | Rophy | I used a simple 'keyword' table. |
| 00:35.03 | Rophy | the keyword might or might not be a rare word |
| 00:35.04 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:35.12 | Rophy | since in chinese, there has no the concept of 'words' |
| 00:35.16 | ckknight | it figures out the rarest word in a sequence, then checks that first |
| 00:35.29 | Rophy | (in chinese you dont have a 'word') |
| 00:35.46 | Rophy | the words are not separate by spaces in chinese. |
| 00:36.01 | ckknight | there were spaces when I learned some mandarin... |
| 00:36.18 | Rophy | no, there aren't, I'm a chinese :p |
| 00:36.24 | ckknight | crazy |
| 00:36.25 | ckknight | oh well |
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| 00:36.38 | ckknight | I dunno, then |
| 00:36.56 | Rophy | since I can't generate the rarest word, I figured it's easier to just provde some keywords. |
| 00:37.30 | vhaarr | ckknight: have you done any performance testing of 1.1 vs 3.0? |
| 00:37.37 | ckknight | vhaarr: sure haven't. |
| 00:37.43 | ckknight | I'm not saying 3.0 is better yet |
| 00:37.48 | vhaarr | right |
| 00:37.52 | ckknight | I do think its API is cleaner, though |
| 00:37.54 | vhaarr | ckknight: make a forum post when you have, please |
| 00:38.06 | Rophy | I'd like to discuss if there are any better algorithm, if there are, I hope you can make it to Parser-2.0 |
| 00:38.26 | Rophy | For the API part I'm sure there can be better approach than Parser-1.1 though. |
| 00:38.30 | ckknight | Rophy: so maybe it should check per-symbol for Asians? |
| 00:38.42 | ckknight | figure out rarity that way |
| 00:39.05 | ckknight | I believe the rarity can be figured out dynamically. |
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| 00:39.40 | ckknight | I gotta go get my Poly Sci book, brb |
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| 00:40.19 | Rophy | ckknight: I'm sure I can make some lib to have the concept of a word in chinese, but that's too complex IMO. Instead just letting the user find out the rarest word manually and provide them, it only costs some memory and have no impact on spee. |
| 00:40.37 | Guillotine | haha, anyone want to get some really funny whispers? type "/console pitchlimit 360" And you can fly upside-down |
| 00:41.10 | Xuerian | Hahah |
| 00:41.28 | Xuerian | (Is there any way in the API to tell if a language is ltr? >.>) |
| 00:41.40 | NeoTron | Guillotine: hmm. lol |
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| 00:42.11 | Guillotine | wish I could buy a flying mount instead of just flight form. would be so much more noticable |
| 00:42.33 | NeoTron | it'd cost you 100g unless you're not 70 yet |
| 00:42.42 | Guillotine | I'm not |
| 00:43.20 | NeoTron | I'm sure they will fix that horrible hack shortly |
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| 00:45.13 | Xuerian | Of course... they always fix the fun stuff. |
| 00:48.04 | ckknight | alright, I figured out an algorithm that's language-independent |
| 00:48.17 | ckknight | during my walk to my locker |
| 00:48.27 | Rophy | o_O |
| 00:48.31 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 00:48.43 | ckknight | ( o Y o ) |
| 00:48.50 | ckknight | pert |
| 00:48.51 | Xuerian | rofl. |
| 00:49.04 | Ordog | a little OT: which dkp/rooster system are you using? eqdkp with plugin or wowrooster.net "stuff" |
| 00:49.30 | ckknight | basically, given a string like "alpha %s bravo %d charlie", you split it into three strings to not include the %[sd], so you have "alpha ", " bravo ", and " charlie" |
| 00:49.40 | ckknight | then you use those as rarity keywords |
| 00:49.45 | ckknight | instead of doing it by spacing. |
| 00:50.10 | vhaarr | Ordog: my own dkp mod, which I'll be uploading to the SVN in the next few hours |
| 00:50.46 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r27883 10AutoBar/ (12 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:50.46 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 00:50.46 | CIA-17 | -- Consumable.Warlock.Health Stone -> Consumable.Warlock.Healthstone |
| 00:50.46 | CIA-17 | -- Jeweler Stone Statues added |
| 00:50.46 | CIA-17 | -- Arrange on use only when there is a change to be made |
| 00:50.46 | CIA-17 | -- First cut at new buffs. Default categories are buffs general, melee, caster and other. |
| 00:50.47 | Ordog | hm vharr ;P |
| 00:50.48 | CIA-17 | -- Targeted buffs have lower default priority |
| 00:51.02 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 00:51.22 | Ordog | what exactly is it? |
| 00:51.47 | Ordog | bank system included, rooster with .lua table upload etc ? |
| 00:52.20 | Ordog | or straight dkp counting ? |
| 00:52.57 | Rophy | ckknight: I think that should work. |
| 00:53.03 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r27884 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Fix friend-removal when syncing. (RemoveFriend is called with friendid, not name.) |
| 00:53.03 | ckknight | yep. |
| 00:53.11 | ckknight | from all my calculations |
| 00:53.15 | Ominous | ckknight: what happened to the buff fading events? |
| 00:53.27 | ckknight | Ominous: SpecialEventsEmbed-Aura |
| 00:53.34 | Kemayo | ilifin: I think that friend removal when syncing with AuldLangSyne should work now. |
| 00:54.14 | vhaarr | Ordog: Straight DKP counting with raid synchronization for more than 1 person running it |
| 00:54.15 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r27885 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 00:54.15 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable-3.0 |
| 00:54.15 | CIA-17 | -Some more buff reorganizing |
| 00:54.27 | Rophy | but... that generates the keyword table and user doesnt have to provide them manually, it's isn't part of the core algorithm. Got any idea on the core algorithm? |
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| 00:54.55 | Daemona | hey Toadkiller as you are fiddling with autobar atm anyway -> clam bar shows in buff food and in normal food |
| 00:54.58 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27886 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua: |
| 00:54.58 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan/ShadeOfAran: |
| 00:54.58 | CIA-17 | - complete update, drycoded |
| 00:54.59 | vhaarr | Ordog: and item tracking, but it's very primitive. |
| 00:55.10 | Arrowmaster | Guillotine: haha thats sweet, whats the default though |
| 00:55.23 | Guillotine | 90 |
| 00:55.26 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: don't touch netherspite, I'll be updating that in an hour or so maybe |
| 00:55.36 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 00:55.39 | Funkeh` | fix the comma then |
| 00:55.51 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r27887 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:55.51 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable-3.0 |
| 00:55.51 | CIA-17 | -Some more buff reorganizing |
| 00:56.20 | Funkeh` | line 19 |
| 00:57.36 | Ominous | tekkub: ping |
| 00:58.03 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r27888 10AutoBar/AutoBarSearch.lua: |
| 00:58.03 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 00:58.03 | CIA-17 | -Add search file |
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| 01:01.19 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r27889 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc): |
| 01:01.19 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 01:01.19 | CIA-17 | -Drycoded possible fix (should work) for actionbar text not hiding properly with Bongos after shapeshifting. |
| 01:02.24 | Ominous | any one know if in SpecialEventsEmbed-Aura "SpecialEvents_UnitBuffGained" is fired when a buff the target already has on if fired? |
| 01:02.34 | Ominous | i mean is applied |
| 01:02.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27890 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 01:02.54 | CIA-17 | Parser-3.0 - now instead of figuring out rarest word based by splitting by spaces, it now splits around the %s/%d bits. |
| 01:02.54 | CIA-17 | Please test. |
| 01:03.02 | ckknight | alright, gtg |
| 01:03.04 | ckknight | Poly Sci |
| 01:03.16 | Rophy | cya |
| 01:03.23 | Rophy | http://wowace.pastecode.com/14189 |
| 01:03.47 | Rophy | it's the basic concepts of the current ParserLib, please take a look when you have time and tell me what you think. |
| 01:05.28 | Gagorian | Ominous: It should |
| 01:05.40 | ilifin | Kemayo - awesome, was getting really annoying :p |
| 01:06.36 | Toadkiller | Daemona: not seeing clam bars as you describe. get the latest version and do one of the 3 resets on the profile page. |
| 01:06.59 | Daemona | will update later |
| 01:07.15 | Daemona | and let you know if it persists |
| 01:07.51 | ilifin | did the files.wowace.com format change? since I'm not getting anything in JAU anymore :/ |
| 01:08.23 | Kemayo | ilifin: I believe it was tweaked. Since it didn't break my own personal scraping script, JAU apparenly was parsing it a bit too strictly. :D |
| 01:08.40 | ilifin | Q_Q |
| 01:09.16 | ilifin | application/script for updating ace mods for Mac OS X sought, send help! |
| 01:09.39 | Xuerian | ilifin: I thought someone where was doing a MAU? o.0 |
| 01:09.41 | Kemayo | There's one called MacAceUpdater, isn't there? |
| 01:09.48 | ilifin | yea but MAU doesn't work either |
| 01:09.52 | Xuerian | Author was in here earlier.. |
| 01:10.07 | NightHawkTheSane | learn perl/php/python/ruby/scripting language of choice, and write your own :) |
| 01:10.23 | ilifin | I know perl/php but I'm lazy atm :/ |
| 01:10.55 | NightHawkTheSane | laziness is no excuse, it took me maybe an hour to whip up a simple updating script :p |
| 01:10.59 | Kemayo | ilifin: if you don't mind tweaking paths, I can give you my own updater script. I use it on windows, but it should be multiplatform. |
| 01:11.12 | ilifin | Kemayo - which language? |
| 01:11.18 | Kemayo | Python |
| 01:11.22 | ilifin | I bet I can just run a replacer regexp on it |
| 01:11.34 | Kemayo | Well, you only have to tweak one path. |
| 01:11.36 | Rophy | well.... after I have looked at Parser-3.0, I don't see how Parser-3.0 acts differently to Parser-1.1 for the algorithm, except that Parser-3.0 still needs to be fixed to be language-independent. |
| 01:12.07 | Kemayo | ilifin: Here's all you'd need: http://kemayo.dyndns.org/svn/wow/trunk/WAup/ |
| 01:12.34 | ilifin | Kemayo - mm ty, but it seems MAU works again nwow o_o |
| 01:12.44 | Xuerian | :3 |
| 01:13.10 | ilifin | or not |
| 01:13.15 | Kemayo | :P |
| 01:13.22 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 01:13.44 | ilifin | added http://files.wowace.com/ to it's addon database of choice, b0rk! |
| 01:14.49 | art3mis | oh goodie ark inventory is all screwed up |
| 01:14.53 | ilifin | Kemayo - where do I want to place this? last time I worked with python was in 2001, refresh my memory :p |
| 01:14.54 | art3mis | yay! |
| 01:15.37 | Snow|Kenlyric | art3mis: hurrah! |
| 01:15.41 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r27891 10Skinner/CharacterFrames1.lua: Skinner: Fix for Character Frames being skinned twice |
| 01:16.20 | Kemayo | ilifin: Wherever you want. Just change default_wowdir to whatever it is for you, then launch it. (On a mac, probably in a terminal window via: python WAup.py) |
| 01:17.01 | art3mis | i know! |
| 01:17.14 | art3mis | sweet grandmaster flash got inducted to the rock and roll hall of fame |
| 01:17.26 | ilifin | Kemayo - yea, problem is now... getting an error on line 97 |
| 01:22.52 | Guillotine | I feel so lost without the Cart Waypoint module working :( |
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| 01:24.38 | Amadeo | Where's the best place to mine....Tin? :) |
| 01:25.26 | Kemayo | ilifin: What error are you getting? |
| 01:27.22 | art3mis | there we go all fixed |
| 01:27.31 | art3mis | ooo and nice new autobar |
| 01:27.35 | ilifin | Kemayo - http://ace.pastey.net/6512 |
| 01:27.48 | art3mis | although i kind of wish it had an "all water and all food" button |
| 01:28.00 | art3mis | so i dont have to stack all the different types including blasted lands stuff |
| 01:28.18 | art3mis | but im totally digging the quest selection thinguy |
| 01:29.19 | art3mis | oh and whoever mucked with arkinventory |
| 01:29.27 | art3mis | you fergot the backpack as a listed bag ;P |
| 01:29.30 | syeren | Are there any good bag addons for Ace2 yet :/? |
| 01:29.36 | syeren | Sick of using EngBags. |
| 01:29.39 | art3mis | depends what you mean by good |
| 01:29.42 | ilifin | onebag imo is good |
| 01:29.50 | art3mis | thers baggins, arkinventory, onebag |
| 01:29.53 | syeren | Can you make onebag sort everything? |
| 01:29.57 | ilifin | no |
| 01:30.00 | art3mis | everything but yer bank |
| 01:30.01 | syeren | Baggins from my experience doesn't do what I want. |
| 01:30.04 | ilifin | I miss that aswell actually |
| 01:30.18 | art3mis | ark can sort pretty good |
| 01:30.20 | ilifin | I converted from discord mini inventory to onebag |
| 01:30.23 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: theoretically it shouldn't be hard to hack in "all food" and "all water" buttons... *ponder |
| 01:30.26 | art3mis | just need to edit the stuff so it drops right |
| 01:30.34 | ilifin | arkinventory did a garbage collection each time I opened my bags |
| 01:30.37 | ilifin | got on my nerves |
| 01:30.48 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: yeah im just wondering why no-one ever did it since they took the time to make standard buttons ;P |
| 01:31.00 | NeoTron | ArkInventory has some severe performance issues |
| 01:31.05 | NeoTron | for that reason I wouldn't recommend it |
| 01:31.11 | art3mis | not recently |
| 01:31.16 | art3mis | its been pretty smoooooth |
| 01:31.28 | art3mis | im hoping that anti comes back and finishes santiybags ;) |
| 01:31.41 | NeoTron | ark smooth? ever tried swapping a set of equipment into the bank? |
| 01:31.46 | art3mis | yup |
| 01:31.52 | NeoTron | it locks up the game for a rather significant period of time |
| 01:32.00 | art3mis | maybe it just hates you |
| 01:32.02 | art3mis | ;) |
| 01:32.09 | NeoTron | and every time an item is changed in the inventory it makes a noticable pause |
| 01:32.10 | art3mis | i hoestly havent had an issue with it |
| 01:32.12 | NeoTron | like 0.5 sec |
| 01:32.16 | ilifin | I opened my bags while in naxx |
| 01:32.20 | art3mis | i do however dislike the autosorting |
| 01:32.30 | ilifin | guess who missed 50% of anub'rekhan |
| 01:32.33 | art3mis | thats one of my peeves for all the ace bags |
| 01:32.34 | ilifin | gg arkinventory >_> |
| 01:32.34 | NeoTron | syeren: what do you not like with baggins |
| 01:32.41 | NeoTron | art3mis: the sorting is like the main feature |
| 01:32.47 | art3mis | baggins is irritating for that same reason |
| 01:32.57 | art3mis | yeah but its never sorting the way i want it ;P |
| 01:33.08 | art3mis | i hate it uss the bottom right to start the bag |
| 01:33.14 | syeren | The fact that when I made a bag for my candles, gave them correct item ids etc, it refused to put my candles in the bag. |
| 01:33.15 | art3mis | im a top left start type person |
| 01:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | if baggins isnt sorting something the way you want, its really your own fault ;) |
| 01:33.34 | NeoTron | syeren: I just use single, sorted, categorized bag view |
| 01:33.46 | ilifin | discord mini inventory did it for me; had a sidebar with categories for items I could click on, it could sort by name, bag, quality, etc, and you could hide empty slots |
| 01:33.53 | art3mis | i liked all in one |
| 01:33.55 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: you can choose where to put items but the sorting itself isn't really that customizable |
| 01:33.55 | ilifin | oh how I miss that mod :p |
| 01:34.02 | art3mis | and one bag would be so much sexier to me if it wasnt 4 addons |
| 01:34.29 | NeoTron | all in one was ok before I found sorted addons |
| 01:34.36 | NeoTron | after that anything unsorted is so.. archaeic |
| 01:34.46 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: eh, it is if you understand how the sorting works. Admittedly, getting -precisely- what I want usually involves careful ordering of bags and properly constructed categories.. but it's very possible |
| 01:35.02 | art3mis | it would be fine if i could make it start the "bags" in the top left and go left to right |
| 01:35.16 | art3mis | and would be good if i could tick something to FORCE it not to autosort |
| 01:35.22 | art3mis | or aut6oshift |
| 01:35.32 | art3mis | i like the ability to make "areas" for stuff |
| 01:35.41 | art3mis | but i dislike that it moves crap around in those areas |
| 01:35.55 | art3mis | thats my only real peeve with em |
| 01:35.57 | Daemona | .... |
| 01:36.12 | art3mis | think about it |
| 01:36.20 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: I think you're mixing up category sorting and sorting within a category? |
| 01:36.27 | Daemona | compare "shockwave truncheon" with "gavel of pure light" and tell me the difference please :X |
| 01:36.30 | Daemona | uuuh fc |
| 01:36.31 | art3mis | if something new hits yer bag it goes into the "first free spot" not "buried in the other stuff" |
| 01:36.41 | Ordog | vhaarr: is your solution completely lua based? |
| 01:36.52 | art3mis | nods neo |
| 01:36.53 | Ordog | vhaarr: sry im still at the dkp thing ^^ |
| 01:37.01 | vhaarr | Ordog: everything is done in-game |
| 01:37.04 | art3mis | cat sorting rules |
| 01:37.09 | art3mis | sorting in a cat is ass |
| 01:37.15 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: oh, you mean ordering within a category? no, that's not terribly customizable.. but honestly, if you need that level of detail, you should abstract more (more categories), use a sorting bar mod (autobar) or be less anal ;) |
| 01:37.34 | art3mis | nah |
| 01:37.41 | vhaarr | Ordog: of course, it is exported to SVs, so you could make some website thing |
| 01:37.51 | art3mis | its called being a DE'er with spare gear in yer bag and accidently de'ing things you shouldnt be ;P |
| 01:37.53 | Ordog | hm i guess your storing solution is quite effective, could parse it into php myself |
| 01:38.03 | art3mis | becuase yer bag mod decided to move that thing you wanted somewhere else |
| 01:38.19 | art3mis | it happens ocne and you hate it |
| 01:38.21 | art3mis | once |
| 01:38.40 | vhaarr | Ordog: you'll have to take a look when I commit it - I was planning on doing this 225 fishing quest first, though. |
| 01:38.43 | ilifin | bag mods that reorder item locations in your bags make me pissed too |
| 01:38.48 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, i've never had baggins move things unexpectedly within a given section. The only thing that irks me is the way sections are shifted around |
| 01:38.54 | art3mis | but the new "skin" for autobar is nice |
| 01:39.00 | vhaarr | Ordog: but if you're desperate I can do it now |
| 01:39.01 | art3mis | yeah |
| 01:39.06 | art3mis | ark doesnt really do that |
| 01:39.31 | art3mis | but its all triviakl complaints |
| 01:39.38 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but ark takes up a lot of space if you have empty/underfilled sections :\ |
| 01:39.47 | art3mis | i like that personally |
| 01:39.49 | CIA-17 | 03zuno * r27892 10UnitActionBars/ (20 files in 5 dirs): |
| 01:39.49 | CIA-17 | UnitActionBars: |
| 01:39.49 | CIA-17 | - Removed some old, unused, files. |
| 01:39.49 | CIA-17 | - Modified the frame group functionality to be based on AceModuleCore. New unit frame mods can be supported through adding a separate add-on for that mod. |
| 01:39.49 | CIA-17 | - Fixed some issues with screen and unit-frame-relative positioning and scaling. |
| 01:39.50 | CIA-17 | - Fixed a problem related to buttons not displaying on initial configuration, or when switching to single action (direct-cast). |
| 01:40.00 | art3mis | baggins didnt like me breaking stacks |
| 01:40.10 | art3mis | used to have a fit everytime i did it |
| 01:40.18 | Tain | I still just use Mr. Plow. I know what it's going to do. |
| 01:40.24 | art3mis | heh |
| 01:40.25 | NightHawkTheSane | really? did you have the compress options on? |
| 01:40.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i've never had a problem with stacking |
| 01:40.40 | art3mis | i did and then realized that may be bad and changed it |
| 01:40.56 | art3mis | for some reason it wouldnt accept breaking a 20 stack and putting it in the "empty" one |
| 01:41.06 | art3mis | it was about then that i ditched it ;P |
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| 01:41.17 | art3mis | and started pesting anti to make sanity bags ;P |
| 01:41.21 | art3mis | pestering |
| 01:41.30 | art3mis | cuz sanity2 is great |
| 01:41.33 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the compress options just change how your inventory is viewed. but yeah, i've never had an issue with stacking or dividing stacks |
| 01:41.41 | CIA-17 | 03zuno * r27893 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc: |
| 01:41.41 | CIA-17 | UnitActionBars: |
| 01:41.41 | CIA-17 | - Updated revision |
| 01:41.41 | art3mis | santiy in creatable bag formats would rule so much |
| 01:41.42 | vhaarr | Ordog: if you tell me what you need in a DKP system, I can tell you if this meets your needs or not, and I've only used it for 3 raids, so don't expect it to be bugfree. |
| 01:41.51 | Ordog | take your time vhaarr wont rush into it tonight :) |
| 01:41.56 | vhaarr | Ordog: alright |
| 01:42.06 | NightHawkTheSane | the only thing i use sanity for is the searching :P |
| 01:42.11 | art3mis | yeah |
| 01:42.15 | art3mis | in bag form it rules |
| 01:42.22 | art3mis | been mucking with alpha |
| 01:42.44 | Ordog | uhm well we are currently evaluating different solutions, the only thing we know is that the current solutions are not "that" perfect |
| 01:42.47 | art3mis | you can sort based on pretty much everything, create special bags for stuff, pin them in a layout that doesnt self-adjust |
| 01:42.57 | art3mis | nurfed dkp! |
| 01:43.13 | art3mis | as long as yer dealing with old world |
| 01:43.32 | art3mis | i found a neat "points" thingy for guilds for 5-25 man instances |
| 01:43.36 | art3mis | on wowi |
| 01:43.48 | vhaarr | Ordog: I'm open to suggestions for making my mod perfect. |
| 01:43.57 | vhaarr | Ordog: if you need it, there's a good chance I do as well. |
| 01:43.59 | art3mis | which mod ya talking aboot? |
| 01:44.35 | vhaarr | Ordog: please put my name before every line, it's hard to keep track if not |
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| 01:49.28 | Ordog | vhaarr: actually we just started talking about that issue internally, wishlist sums up to some wowrooster/eqdkp crossbreed the internals are not topic or mostly just assumed to be "working" |
| 01:50.41 | NightHawkTheSane | huh. waypoints to your corpse when you die? now that's hot. |
| 01:51.33 | Ordog | vhaarr: my interest would be ofcourse some efficient ingame part that gathers loots and kills by members of the raid where the script running dude sits in, that is what you are up to i guess? |
| 01:51.50 | vhaarr | Ordog: yeah |
| 01:52.24 | vhaarr | Ordog: And it's all modularized, we use a very, very simple DKP method which is #hoursRaided / (1 + #itemsLooted) |
| 01:52.30 | syeren | vhaarr!!! |
| 01:52.36 | vhaarr | syeren o_O |
| 01:52.36 | syeren | Just the right type of person to ask. |
| 01:52.37 | vhaarr | who are you |
| 01:52.39 | vhaarr | :P |
| 01:52.48 | syeren | The dude who made you make a range check update ;) |
| 01:53.01 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27894 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: add self:Whisper to the prototype |
| 01:53.04 | syeren | Would it be possible for an addon to allow me to set alias's for players and redirect them? |
| 01:53.04 | vhaarr | Ordog: but that is abstracted away to a module, so a new one can be created easily that calculates DKP for another system |
| 01:53.18 | ilifin | vhaarr - I like that, remind me to push it on my raidingalliance once we reform for TBC raiding >_> |
| 01:53.18 | syeren | For instance the majority of the people in my guild I know by other names. |
| 01:53.24 | syeren | So for instance /w Scotty would go to 'Eloo' |
| 01:53.35 | vhaarr | syeren: yeah, that's possible |
| 01:53.41 | syeren | :o |
| 01:54.27 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: i dont mean to sidetrack, but does that mean the less items that drop, the more dkp you get? |
| 01:54.27 | syeren | I should probably request it in Prat. |
| 01:54.27 | Ordog | vhaarr: yes some customizeable way to define the dkp distribution would be needed, better without lua knowledge for teh non scripters ;P |
| 01:54.44 | rubik | i thought prat just added an alias module? |
| 01:54.45 | vhaarr | NightHawkTheSane: yes it does |
| 01:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, i see what you intend. nevermind, my mistake :) |
| 01:56.04 | Ordog | i have never used raidmonitor myself, so i dont know what that thing is actually delivering |
| 01:56.04 | vhaarr | Ordog: yes, it is very customizable |
| 01:56.06 | vhaarr | Ordog: I'll write a readme for it |
| 01:56.12 | vhaarr | since there's obviously interest |
| 01:56.58 | art3mis | oh i figured out what causes the ark sort lag |
| 01:57.06 | art3mis | well 2 things actually |
| 01:57.20 | art3mis | 1. sorting by quality/items vs bag slot |
| 01:57.28 | art3mis | bag slot is less laggy |
| 01:57.42 | art3mis | 2. instant sort vs sort on open bag |
| 01:57.56 | art3mis | instant is tiny laggy open sort is horridly laggy |
| 02:00.42 | Ordog | vhaarr: yes, i will take a look and see if i can come up with the time to build some webfrontend for it, if we cant find any other solution that would be my choice |
| 02:03.37 | Ordog | vhaarr: we could ofcourse just take some existing ingame part and build our thing around that, but since my trust in the wowace community is somewhat stronger than in those "sometime next year we will release a beta" projects it might be for a greater good^^ |
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| 02:04.26 | vhaarr | Ordog: hehe |
| 02:04.43 | art3mis | syeren: im pretty sure theres a little addon for specifically that |
| 02:04.48 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 02:04.49 | art3mis | i know if seen it somwhere |
| 02:04.52 | Industrial | need shum help |
| 02:04.53 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/6513 |
| 02:05.02 | Industrial | im doing stuff wrong with the experience |
| 02:05.16 | Industrial | 3am so i cant see what :( |
| 02:05.34 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27895 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (13 files): BigWigs: Karazhan: cleansing |
| 02:07.02 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27896 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: netherspite to toc |
| 02:07.05 | Industrial | the repeats left is supposed to be the number of times you need to repeat the last xp gain to level |
| 02:07.28 | Industrial | defaulting to 1 |
| 02:07.37 | syeren | art3mis, any luck tracking it down ;)? |
| 02:09.11 | Industrial | in my display after killing someone i get 1, -55, 1 after killing someone for the repeatsleft value |
| 02:09.34 | Industrial | (when the value updates) |
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| 02:20.21 | pastamancer | Industrial: what if you set _xpplayerrep in an OnInitialize-type function? |
| 02:21.26 | Industrial | pastamancer: but it gets called every 0.5 sec, so it should be filled |
| 02:22.48 | Snow|Kenlyric | lol... Fishing Ace tries to cast even if you don't have a fishing pole equipped. |
| 02:23.38 | pastamancer | Industrial: hmm, I see updateInformation being called every 0.5 but not getExperience |
| 02:23.42 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone know the agility:crit ratio for warriors at 70? |
| 02:24.00 | Industrial | local function updateInformation() text:SetText(('%s %s %sfps %sms %sMB %sKb/s'):format(getExperience(), getReputation(), getFramerate(), getLatency(), getMemoryUsage(), getMemoryIncrease())) end |
| 02:24.07 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 02:24.29 | pastamancer | http://pastey.net/6513 is what I'm looking at, line 44 |
| 02:24.50 | pastamancer | oh |
| 02:24.53 | Industrial | oh my bad sorry |
| 02:24.57 | pastamancer | updateInformation is defined twice? |
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| 02:25.11 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/6517 |
| 02:25.11 | Industrial | there |
| 02:25.49 | pastamancer | well, if you're calling it ever 0.5 sec rather than on xp gain then you don't want to set _xpplayerrep if it's the same as UnitXP('player') |
| 02:26.22 | pastamancer | otherwise you'll only get the expected result for 0.5 seconds after a xp gain |
| 02:26.43 | Industrial | .. doh .. ok I definately need sleep |
| 02:27.31 | Industrial | pastamancer: thanks for the wakeup call *scribbles down a note on what an idiot he is and that he needs to change this* |
| 02:27.36 | Industrial | nn ^^ |
| 02:27.56 | pastamancer | also, call UnitXP just one time in the function and save the result! |
| 02:28.20 | Industrial | yeah I just wanted to get it working first |
| 02:28.26 | Industrial | need pet xp and rep too after this ;) |
| 02:29.49 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27897 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (4 files): BigWigs: Karazhan: more cleaning |
| 02:31.21 | pastamancer | ag`: ping |
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| 02:37.25 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27898 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0: Options with a .usage will now show that in the tooltip text. |
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| 02:41.00 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27899 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ShadeOfAran.lua: BigWigs: ShadeOfAran: Syntax fixes. |
| 02:42.39 | ckknight | and I'm back |
| 02:42.45 | Thrae | ~seen ag |
| 02:43.15 | purl | ag is currently on #openmoko (10h 47m 27s) #gnu-kbsd (10h 47m 27s) #nslu2-linux (10h 47m 27s), last said: 'dalibor: asm volatile may help you there'. |
| 02:43.15 | ckknight | lousy Systems Analysis |
| 02:43.15 | Thrae | ~seen ag` |
| 02:43.24 | purl | ag` is currently on #wowi-lounge (14h 14m 42s) #wowace (14h 14m 42s), last said: 'transgaming isn't a system emulator'. |
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| 02:44.49 | Thrae | Bah, agUF's code is too borgish for me to tackle on my own with this simple feature |
| 02:45.16 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27900 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0: But not if .usage is a zero-length string. |
| 02:45.29 | vhaarr | Thrae: it's horrible |
| 02:45.41 | ckknight | yea, it is really bad. |
| 02:45.51 | ckknight | I've thought of making my own UF :-P |
| 02:46.03 | ckknight | I'll conquer the whole UI one day. |
| 02:46.55 | mjc | http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/915.gif |
| 02:47.07 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27901 10BigWigs/Outland/ (Gruul.lua Kazzak.lua Magtheridon.lua Maulgar.lua): BigWigs: Outland: cleaning |
| 02:48.15 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27902 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - no longer takes into account whether it's a PC or NPC killing blow. |
| 02:48.43 | vhaarr | ckknight: So Parser-3.0 won't tell me whether I killed a player or a NPC now? |
| 02:48.45 | ckknight | hehe, mjc |
| 02:49.05 | ckknight | vhaarr: no, just tells you if you kill _something_ |
| 02:49.11 | mjc | how do you like your macbook ckk |
| 02:49.19 | ckknight | mjc: it's quite shiny |
| 02:49.22 | vhaarr | ckknight: I need that, to be able to know that I killed a player. |
| 02:49.28 | mjc | ckknight: OSX or windows atm? |
| 02:49.28 | vhaarr | ckknight: for pvp logging. |
| 02:49.34 | ckknight | vhaarr: bitch at Rophy, he said to take it out. |
| 02:49.39 | ckknight | mjc: OS X |
| 02:49.46 | ckknight | mjc: don't have a spare copy of Windows. |
| 02:50.07 | mjc | ah |
| 02:50.11 | mjc | windows blows :) |
| 02:50.15 | mjc | who needs it lol |
| 02:50.23 | ckknight | Systems Analysts. |
| 02:50.32 | ckknight | that's who |
| 02:50.46 | Rophy | vhaarr: I think that should be in another mod and not parserlib. |
| 02:51.11 | Snow|Kenlyric | guess I don't properly understand what the word "parse" means... |
| 02:51.15 | ckknight | maybe if I just renamed ParserLib to something else, then it'd belong... |
| 02:51.23 | ckknight | like CombatEventsLib |
| 02:51.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:51.37 | ckknight | or something |
| 02:51.44 | Rophy | well, it's just my personal opinions. I thought you agree with a library should only one job and one job well. |
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| 02:51.56 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r27903 10sRaidFrames/localization.deDE.lua: sRaidFrames: deDE Update |
| 02:52.18 | ckknight | that's why AceEvent has OnUpdate handling as well as OnEvent handling, and why it has a snuck-in thing to alert when you're looting |
| 02:52.31 | ckknight | or why AceComm has a hidden feature that'll tell people who ask what addons you're running |
| 02:52.42 | ckknight | Big Brother in your back pocket |
| 02:52.52 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:52.55 | Snow|Kenlyric | omg /uinstall! |
| 02:53.13 | vhaarr | You'd better watch out, there are SpyGnomes behind every corner now! |
| 02:53.18 | ckknight | get VersionChecker or SpyGnome to spy on your friends! |
| 02:53.27 | ckknight | I know I do |
| 02:53.29 | ckknight | so useful. |
| 02:53.34 | vhaarr | ye ;) |
| 02:53.42 | LordRhys | hi all, can someone tell proper usage of GetItemCount using just itemname, I get this error at the moment - Usage: GetItemCount(itemID|\"name\"|\"itemlink\" [, includeBank]) when using count = GetItemCount(argName,false) |
| 02:53.42 | ckknight | it's like, wtf bitch, install Cartographer. *slap* |
| 02:53.49 | Snow|Kenlyric | so I can see which ones are using bonoboporn addon. |
| 02:54.54 | Snow|Kenlyric | so, do guilds have a channel which mods can talk over? is that what guildpositions uses? |
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| 02:57.59 | wobWork | aye |
| 02:58.10 | Thorgard | ckknight, I've a request for PerformanceFu. ;P An option to set which value is 'red' and 'green' on the 'current memory' thing. |
| 02:59.54 | Snow|Kenlyric | seconded. |
| 03:00.41 | Snow|Kenlyric | hmmm... so a FriendsLocation mod wouldn't be that easy to write... |
| 03:00.52 | vhaarr | Snow|Kenlyric: It would. |
| 03:01.45 | ckknight | vhaarr: I do see the reasoning behind having PC kills, but wouldn't that be better handled by Glory-2.0? |
| 03:01.47 | ckknight | Snow|Kenlyric: yes. |
| 03:01.49 | ckknight | Snow|Kenlyric: or any other addon, actually, even if it's non-Ace |
| 03:01.51 | ckknight | as long as they have AceComm |
| 03:01.53 | ckknight | I know some of my guildies were using Metamap, and I scolded them |
| 03:01.55 | ckknight | and they were freaked out that I knew what they were running |
| 03:01.57 | ckknight | but I just lied and said I knew m4d h4x |
| 03:02.01 | ckknight | (that was code for "mad hacks") |
| 03:02.03 | ckknight | but really, if something useful can go into Parser-3.0, then I think it should go in, if it belongs |
| 03:02.05 | ckknight | but what shouldn't happen is to put something extremely trivial in, or to put something that already exists in another library |
| 03:02.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah, maybe. |
| 03:02.08 | ckknight | that's why Parser-3.0 doesn't track auras (SEEA) or combo points (trivial event) |
| 03:02.37 | CIA-17 | 03nayala * r27904 10Baggins_Usable/ (. Baggins_Usable.lua Baggins_Usable.toc license.txt): Baggins_Usable: Adds Equippable, Usable and an alternate Consumable filters to Baggins. |
| 03:02.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27905 10SpyGnome/ (SpyGnome.lua locales/enUS.lua): SpyGnome: Organize the addons by X-Category in the options. |
| 03:03.39 | CIA-17 | 03rophy * r27906 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-1.12.3-zhTW.lua: GlobalStrings: Added 1.12.3 zhTW. |
| 03:04.41 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r27907 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (. Artwork/ Cartographer_Waypoints.toc Waypoints.lua): |
| 03:04.41 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Waypoints: |
| 03:04.41 | CIA-17 | * Added in tsvn template |
| 03:04.41 | CIA-17 | * removed more debug statements |
| 03:07.12 | Silviu- | Wobin , ping ;p |
| 03:07.21 | Silviu- | [2007/02/13 05:06:45-246-x1]: Cartographer-r27841\Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:622: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 03:09.40 | Rophy | ckknight: I have no comment if you want to add some useful extra things in a library. But I have to disagree on the idea that a parser library should try to estimate things for clients. |
| 03:09.41 | ckknight | well, looks like classtime |
| 03:10.06 | ckknight | estimate things like if they're a person or not? |
| 03:10.15 | ckknight | I really don't think that that's a bad idea. |
| 03:10.30 | Rophy | like if the 'Rophy' in the combat log is actually me or someone else who also called Rophy. |
| 03:10.32 | ckknight | and to solve the whole issue is that we just rename it to something besides ParserLib |
| 03:10.39 | ckknight | fringe case |
| 03:10.47 | ckknight | and just force your girlfriend to get a new pet |
| 03:10.48 | ckknight | problem solved. |
| 03:10.48 | ckknight | tada. |
| 03:10.51 | Rophy | that's not an uncommon case which will never appear. |
| 03:10.51 | ckknight | gtg |
| 03:10.55 | Rophy | whatever, cya. |
| 03:10.59 | ckknight | or get a new girlfriend |
| 03:11.01 | ckknight | either way works |
| 03:11.02 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:11.34 | Rophy | so basically Parser-3.0 is confirmed to be possible of parsing the incorrect results. :\ |
| 03:15.28 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r27908 10AuldLangSyne/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 03:15.28 | CIA-17 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 03:15.28 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:17.08 | wobWork | Silviu-: Does it error? |
| 03:17.11 | wobWork | =\ |
| 03:18.40 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r27909 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints:Missed a 'L' |
| 03:18.47 | Arrowmaster | lol im doing a corpse run through hillsbrad on a lvl 11 alt and just noticing the new text with the corpse waypoints |
| 03:18.54 | wobWork | << |
| 03:18.55 | wobWork | >> |
| 03:19.01 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 03:19.35 | wobWork | I felt the standard 'Corpse' could get a bit boring =P |
| 03:20.06 | Silviu- | give me a great page to send some Valentine`s cards for my love and some poems ! :) |
| 03:20.12 | Xuerian | purl, comfort Rophy |
| 03:20.14 | purl | There, there, Rophy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 03:20.22 | Xuerian | ~botsnack |
| 03:20.22 | purl | Xuerian: :) |
| 03:21.49 | Silviu- | wobWork works now, thx |
| 03:22.34 | wobWork | ^^ |
| 03:22.47 | CIA-17 | 03nayala * r27910 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.toc: Baggins_ItemRack: Fix TOC |
| 03:24.28 | wobWork | Is the corpsewaypoint reliably showing up for everyone? |
| 03:24.47 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 03:24.59 | Silviu- | For the moment :) |
| 03:25.02 | wobWork | hehe |
| 03:25.14 | wobWork | fleeting as my code stability is =) |
| 03:25.36 | Silviu- | tho i only died 2 times in openpvp |
| 03:26.00 | wobWork | I kept running my newbie orc rogue into the UC lift =P |
| 03:26.09 | wobWork | over and over again |
| 03:26.18 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 03:26.34 | Silviu- | ./comfort wobWork |
| 03:26.56 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r27911 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer: deDE Update |
| 03:28.19 | wobWork | hehe, poor Gamefaq|afk |
| 03:28.34 | wobWork | I apologise for the constantly increasing translation list |
| 03:30.23 | vhaarr | Gamefaq|afk: New string in Dewdrop to localize if you care. |
| 03:32.40 | CIA-17 | 03nayala * r27912 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.lua: Baggins_ItemRack: Fixed comments |
| 03:36.19 | NightHawkTheSane | baggins_itemrack? o_0 |
| 03:37.12 | CIA-17 | 03nayala * r27913 10Baggins_Usable/Baggins_Usable.lua: Baggins_Usable: Eliminated unused variables. Drycoded. |
| 03:38.19 | kergoth | hey all |
| 03:39.16 | kergoth | vhaarr, thanks for the dewdrop .usage thing, that one had been bugging me. i use it in automaton ding to describe the available format strings ($L, $C, etc) for the message |
| 03:39.44 | vhaarr | kergoth: ah, indeed, you're welcome |
| 03:46.29 | Ordog | wobWork, first: that corpse waypoint messages scared me! BUHUU, second: if you die in an instance the waypoint is created after you enter the instance (and are revived) thus you have to close the waypoint manually and its not that usefull there :) |
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| 03:47.08 | ckknight | hello, friends |
| 03:47.18 | ckknight | in Computer Analysis currently :-P |
| 03:48.02 | Thorgard | :( |
| 03:48.03 | ckknight | it's weird, cause I'm like messing with the computer, but the teacher ekpps looking in my direction, due to me having the tendency to make eye contact |
| 03:48.05 | Thorgard | I'm so sorry. |
| 03:48.09 | pastamancer | is that where you have computers resline on comfy couches and listen to their problems? |
| 03:48.21 | ckknight | wait, not Computer Analysis, Systems Analysis |
| 03:48.27 | Thorgard | Oh god. |
| 03:48.31 | pastamancer | s/resline/recline |
| 03:49.14 | ckknight | she has a pretty thick Norweigein accent |
| 03:49.15 | Ordog | so maybe it would be more usefull to set the corpse waypoint outside of the instance (dunno if you got a way to find the entrance coordinates, gogo simple table?) |
| 03:50.13 | ckknight | Norweigain* |
| 03:50.15 | ckknight | hell, I dunno |
| 03:50.18 | ckknight | no spellcheck |
| 03:50.32 | pastamancer | scandawegian |
| 03:50.37 | vhaarr | >< |
| 03:50.39 | vhaarr | Norwegian! |
| 03:50.55 | ckknight | go back to Norwegia |
| 03:51.07 | vhaarr | We've actually got a cheese called that. |
| 03:51.14 | ckknight | yum |
| 03:51.34 | vhaarr | (yes, we have other cheese besides Jarlsberg) |
| 03:51.44 | ckknight | don't know what that is |
| 03:52.14 | ckknight | I eat like American and Cheddar |
| 03:52.14 | ckknight | I am aware of Brie, though |
| 03:52.17 | ckknight | oh, and Subway also provides Pepperjack |
| 03:52.26 | Silviu- | wobWork http://ace.pastey.net/6519 , when i try /way 24,35 z-Shadowmoon Valley |
| 03:52.27 | vhaarr | Brie isn't even scandinavian. |
| 03:52.31 | vhaarr | It's french. |
| 03:52.31 | Snow|Kenlyric | muenster makes a killer grilled cheese |
| 03:52.42 | Silviu- | i also tryed Shadowmoon simple |
| 03:52.47 | ckknight | vhaarr: I know. that's the extent of my cheese knowledge |
| 03:53.00 | vhaarr | ckknight: You haven't seen the Monty Python cheese sketch? |
| 03:53.09 | ckknight | apparently not |
| 03:53.13 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 03:53.35 | vhaarr | It would've taught you that Jarlsberg is norwegian, for example. |
| 03:53.43 | vhaarr | in addition to being hilarious |
| 03:54.49 | ckknight | man... this class is boring |
| 03:55.02 | ckknight | I already know how both business and computers work |
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| 03:55.20 | ckknight | how hard is it to understand how to build a project? |
| 03:55.58 | ckknight | currently, we're learning about actors and events, such as customer buying a shirt |
| 03:56.26 | vhaarr | Sounds more like a drama class. |
| 03:56.35 | Pyros[KoC] | Hi, sorry to bother, didn't know where to post and didn't really want to make a post just for this but, was there a change in how the timestamps on the beta download site is done? |
| 03:57.02 | ckknight | and she keeps using buzzwords |
| 03:57.04 | vhaarr | Pyros[KoC]: How so? |
| 03:57.05 | ckknight | ...painfully |
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| 03:57.16 | Pyros[KoC] | I used to order the addons bby timestamps to find out which were changed and download the new versions everyday |
| 03:57.31 | Pyros[KoC] | but it seems the format on timestamps was changed |
| 03:57.33 | vhaarr | ckknight: Seen any George Carlin? He bashes buzzword people and people who fill sentences with unecessary words. |
| 03:57.42 | ckknight | Pyros[KoC]: use WAU, I recommend. alternatively, check by revision |
| 03:57.44 | Pyros[KoC] | and some addons timestamps seem to change when the version does not |
| 03:57.47 | ckknight | vhaarr: yea, I like his work |
| 03:58.30 | wobWork | Silviu-: You'll have to use z-"Silvermoon Valley" |
| 03:58.36 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 03:58.36 | wobWork | or Shadowmoon as the case may be |
| 03:58.48 | Silviu- | Thx :P |
| 03:59.05 | _neuron_ | why is the new filenames Mod-r<num>.2.zip? |
| 03:59.11 | Pyros[KoC] | the WA doesn't keep the zip files and seems to have problems with Cartographer updating and revisions aren't the same between different addons :( |
| 03:59.18 | _neuron_ | (for example capping = Capping-r27757.2.zip) |
| 03:59.27 | wobWork | Ordog: Aha, instances. Rightio, I'll look into that |
| 03:59.43 | ckknight | there's a guy sleeping next to me |
| 03:59.48 | ckknight | frankly, I find that rude |
| 03:59.57 | _neuron_ | ckknight, shave all his hair off and paint his head |
| 04:00.14 | vhaarr | Or put barber foam in his hand and tickle his cheek. |
| 04:00.25 | ckknight | vhaarr: I'm in class |
| 04:00.28 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 04:00.30 | vhaarr | I know :P |
| 04:00.35 | pastamancer | the rXXXX.YY.zip means that there were lib changes but not changes in the addon |
| 04:00.36 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4714.0;topicseen |
| 04:00.40 | _neuron_ | you dont bring barber foam to class?! |
| 04:01.43 | Snow|Kenlyric | I find it impressive. I'm incapable of sleeping while sitting. |
| 04:02.31 | vhaarr | You're just not tired enough. |
| 04:03.16 | ckknight | anyone think that Mazzle's post is a bit strange? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4755.0 |
| 04:04.08 | vhaarr | what the hell is he talking about |
| 04:04.37 | ckknight | I have no idea, I think that he believes that Rophy was yelling at me or someting |
| 04:04.40 | ckknight | something* |
| 04:04.59 | nymbia | oh good i'm not the only one who was confused by that |
| 04:05.06 | vhaarr | hey wait |
| 04:05.11 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:05.19 | vhaarr | hm |
| 04:05.31 | vhaarr | by "other people" I think he means the people Rophy is refering to |
| 04:05.37 | vhaarr | that said "Parser-1.1 sucks" |
| 04:05.45 | vhaarr | it makes sense then, I think |
| 04:05.47 | ckknight | oh, that'd make sense. |
| 04:06.20 | ckknight | whatever, all you gotta do is use overinflated version numbers and pretend that it's better, even if it isn't really |
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| 04:06.48 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 04:06.54 | vhaarr | Benchmark results kthx. |
| 04:07.33 | Rophy | ckknight: looks like Parser-3.0 is only using the unitid to get the overheal amount? |
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| 04:08.08 | kergoth | heh, i nearly fell asleep in training today |
| 04:08.17 | kergoth | 8 hours of boring training in worthless tools ftl |
| 04:08.47 | kergoth | teacher gives us an exercise, i finish it before he finishes describing it to us, then wait _30 minutes_ while the rest of the class manages it |
| 04:08.52 | kergoth | then we resume |
| 04:08.54 | kergoth | did that like 3 times |
| 04:08.55 | kergoth | :( |
| 04:09.07 | kergoth | i hate people. |
| 04:10.57 | ckknight | kergoth: I totally do the same thing. |
| 04:11.04 | ckknight | Rophy: true. |
| 04:11.16 | ckknight | Rophy: it's MSBT's method. If you have another way, I'd love to hear it |
| 04:11.42 | ckknight | vhaarr: benchmark results are probably close to Parser-1.1, not sure whether higher or lower, though. |
| 04:11.44 | Rophy | I thought you wanted to use unitid as the API, if you want to get the overheal amount, then yes I think that's the only way. |
| 04:11.59 | Rophy | for API I meant the {source=player} thing you mentioned. |
| 04:12.14 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r27914 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist: Removed the safety check in OnInit to transfer the old texture value to a SurfaceLib texture. It's redundant now. |
| 04:12.18 | ckknight | ah, { sourceName = UnitName("player") } seems fine |
| 04:13.51 | ckknight | I'm still torn on whether it should tell the difference between PCs and NPCs. |
| 04:14.06 | Rophy | it can, if you want. |
| 04:14.20 | Rophy | since "You hit A for 100." is different to "Rophy hit A for 100." |
| 04:14.43 | Rophy | you know "Rophy hit A for 100." is not player from the message, and I don't think parser should ignore that info. |
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| 04:15.25 | Rophy | that's why the ParserLib_SELF constants in Parser-1.1. |
| 04:15.56 | Rophy | so a client knows that info.source = ParserLib_SELF is different to info.source = "Rophy". |
| 04:16.12 | ckknight | I still think there doesn't need to be a separation |
| 04:16.50 | ckknight | and dealing with a separate self is complicate |
| 04:17.06 | Rophy | It's not, the info are all contained in the pattern anyway. |
| 04:18.05 | Rophy | I mean, COMBATHITCRITSCHOOLOTHERSELF and COMBATHITCRITSCHOOLOTHEROTHER doesn't always look the same, you must parse both. |
| 04:18.44 | Rophy | if you parsed COMBATHITCRITSCHOOLOTHERSELF then you know it's player, there is no need to touch the parsed token to determine if it is player or no at all. |
| 04:22.38 | Gnor | hey, so whats up with the changelogs |
| 04:22.58 | Gnor | scince tday they have been putting the addon names in the filename |
| 04:23.15 | Gnor | and WAU isnt picking up that its the latest version |
| 04:23.23 | Gnor | using 1.7b4 |
| 04:23.34 | ckknight | do a little dance |
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| 04:24.06 | kergoth | hehe. i feel like watching some zim |
| 04:24.09 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 04:24.20 | purl | where's my moose? |
| 04:24.29 | Funkeh` | open it wiht a real editor |
| 04:31.35 | ckknight | someone amuse me |
| 04:31.51 | ckknight | though here's something funny. I can see someone browsing the WoW forums in class |
| 04:34.06 | Funkeh` | ehh? Oo |
| 04:34.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:34.21 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 04:34.22 | purl | Gimme some sugar, baby! |
| 04:34.23 | ckknight | I will have to talk to him after class |
| 04:34.29 | ckknight | ~emulate fry |
| 04:34.31 | purl | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 04:34.36 | Funkeh` | ooh |
| 04:35.54 | Silviu- | How was that command to unstuck ? :/ |
| 04:36.30 | Funkeh` | something /script showhelpmenu or something |
| 04:37.06 | ckknight | ~emulate fry |
| 04:37.08 | purl | Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
| 04:38.21 | ckknight | ~emulate fry |
| 04:38.23 | purl | My folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope? |
| 04:38.43 | ckknight | I am amused |
| 04:39.59 | art3mis | hah |
| 04:39.59 | art3mis | fry is a role model to us all |
| 04:39.59 | ckknight | you know it |
| 04:41.05 | art3mis | im so happy futurama is coming back |
| 04:41.11 | ckknight | me too |
| 04:41.14 | ckknight | should be good times |
| 04:41.18 | ckknight | when does it come back? |
| 04:41.31 | kergoth | ~emulate fry |
| 04:41.33 | purl | Words. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears. |
| 04:42.44 | ckknight | yea, the guy next to me is a total weirdo |
| 04:43.55 | art3mis | http://www.speedbumpstudios.com/futurama/ |
| 04:44.06 | kergoth | hm, there an updated addon to flash the lowhealthwarningframe when your health is low? i know TNE_LowHealthWarning does it, but it hasnt been updated to lua 5.1, can do it myself of course, but figured i'd check |
| 04:44.12 | ckknight | zomg, why'd they have to nerf Pluto? |
| 04:44.16 | kergoth | i know some use thel owhealthwarningframe for aggro alert, but i prefer the health warning myself |
| 04:45.54 | Rycochet | kergoth: i use one of the cosmos ones - CombatCaller |
| 04:46.07 | ckknight | friends don't let friends use cosmos |
| 04:46.12 | art3mis | "I was frustrated when it got cancelled, but Fox, 20th Television is the one who came back and said, 'Would you like to do a DVD movie?'" Groening recalled. We said, 'Let's do two' and they said, 'Well, why not three?' and we said, 'Well, why not four?' and they said, 'Okay, four' and then that's it." |
| 04:46.29 | art3mis | After this, Comedy Central won a bid to air the films as new "Futurama" episodes. "We're writing them as movies and then we're going to chop them up, reconfigure them, write new material and try to make them work as separate episodes. Chopped up is an indelicate way of putting it but we are doing them as movies and then we are reconfiguring them and writing new material and narration and this that and the other so that they'll stand on the |
| 04:46.35 | Rycochet | ckknight: only because there's half a dozen i've not found replacements for yet ;-) |
| 04:47.00 | ckknight | so now, are you my friend, or are you going to keep using cosmos? |
| 04:47.16 | Zicon | ckknight: I like you. |
| 04:47.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:48.02 | art3mis | watch out |
| 04:48.08 | art3mis | irc is kind of like prison |
| 04:48.27 | Rycochet | hehe |
| 04:48.36 | Rycochet | ckknight: i'm a friend with a dark secret ;-) |
| 04:48.53 | ckknight | bad. |
| 04:49.02 | ckknight | you know I'd cut you so bad |
| 04:49.12 | art3mis | s/shiv's/bones/g |
| 04:49.17 | art3mis | awww |
| 04:49.21 | art3mis | stupid purl |
| 04:49.23 | ckknight | don't use /g |
| 04:49.32 | art3mis | s/shiv's/bones/ |
| 04:49.38 | ckknight | too late |
| 04:49.39 | art3mis | doesnt work with /me's |
| 04:49.45 | art3mis | s/shiv's/bones/g |
| 04:49.51 | art3mis | s/shiv's/bones/ |
| 04:49.55 | art3mis | see |
| 04:49.55 | ckknight | you're an asshole |
| 04:50.01 | ckknight | s/n asshole/ fine gentleman/ |
| 04:50.10 | art3mis | thats normal publics |
| 04:50.11 | Arrowmaster | i just soloed a 5man quest |
| 04:50.24 | ckknight | I solo'd your mom last night. |
| 04:50.27 | art3mis | you must be a lock druid or priest ;P |
| 04:50.34 | ckknight | that was a 4-man quest |
| 04:50.40 | ckknight | DVDA! |
| 04:50.42 | art3mis | and thats not possible, his mom takes at least 3 just to roll in flour |
| 04:50.51 | Arrowmaster | lock, but the quest was biased towards ranged classes that can keep dpsing and not run out of mana |
| 04:51.01 | art3mis | locks run out of mana? |
| 04:51.06 | art3mis | you must have spec'd bad |
| 04:51.07 | art3mis | ;) |
| 04:51.13 | ckknight | health tap |
| 04:51.16 | Arrowmaster | no i have dark pact |
| 04:51.27 | art3mis | which quest? |
| 04:51.53 | Arrowmaster | Dimensius the All-Devouring |
| 04:51.53 | art3mis | me and a enchance shaman beat the big green giant guy in shadowmoon ;P |
| 04:52.00 | ckknight | [62] Pork Arrowmaster's Mom |
| 04:52.02 | ckknight | wait |
| 04:52.08 | art3mis | enhance |
| 04:52.10 | ckknight | [62+] Pork Arrowmaster's Mom |
| 04:52.18 | art3mis | cuz it's 31337? |
| 04:52.29 | Arrowmaster | made 20g too doing the quest again for a rogue |
| 04:52.34 | art3mis | nice |
| 04:52.37 | ZealotOnAStick | You're making me want to kill you all. |
| 04:52.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Except maybe Arrow. |
| 04:53.00 | art3mis | you're a zealot |
| 04:53.01 | ZealotOnAStick | If he's a gnome lock, though, onto the list too with 'im. |
| 04:53.04 | art3mis | .oh a steeeeeeeeeeeeeeek |
| 04:53.06 | art3mis | on |
| 04:53.08 | Arrowmaster | orc |
| 04:53.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Freak. |
| 04:53.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Still, Horde, so ok. |
| 04:53.50 | ckknight | I'm an Orc Shaman lvl 36! |
| 04:53.55 | ckknight | :-) |
| 04:54.02 | Arrowmaster | bah our instance servers broke again |
| 04:54.07 | ckknight | seeing as I like never play WoW, that's an achievement |
| 04:54.37 | art3mis | you never play wow? |
| 04:54.39 | Arrowmaster | i swear that was the easist 50g ive ever made |
| 04:54.47 | ckknight | art3mis: hardly ever |
| 04:55.00 | ckknight | art3mis: just been leveling my Shaman. Want to get to 60 to PvP with my brother |
| 04:55.06 | art3mis | s/play wow?/play? wow.../ |
| 04:55.32 | art3mis | and thats why punctuation is NOT a toy! |
| 04:55.49 | ckknight | so is capitalization |
| 04:55.57 | art3mis | so why exactly do you do all this stuff for addons if you don't play? |
| 04:56.05 | ckknight | it's the difference between "Helping your uncle jack off a horse |
| 04:56.11 | art3mis | capitalization is for the weak |
| 04:56.14 | ckknight | and "Helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" |
| 04:56.29 | gxam | that is a fantastic example |
| 04:56.35 | art3mis | there's nothing wrong with that, you were only helping |
| 04:56.53 | ckknight | ...penis |
| 04:57.10 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 04:57.15 | purl | I didn't know there was a 5 A.M. mass. I didn't even know there was a 5 A.M. What else haven't you told me!? |
| 04:57.18 | ckknight | ~penis |
| 04:57.20 | purl | i heard penis is the DESTROYER of worlds |
| 04:57.28 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:57.30 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:57.37 | art3mis | ~boobies |
| 04:57.38 | purl | http://www.vboogieman.com/boobies.php?text=Zaurus |
| 04:57.48 | art3mis | i dont raelly wanna click that do i |
| 04:58.15 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:58.16 | ckknight | I clicked it |
| 04:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 04:58.20 | NightHawkTheSane | that amused me |
| 04:58.21 | ckknight | people saw boobs on my screen |
| 04:58.25 | ckknight | (I'm in class) |
| 04:58.57 | chutwig | at midnight? |
| 04:59.05 | ckknight | it's 7:00 PM for me |
| 04:59.13 | chutwig | where the devil are you |
| 04:59.18 | art3mis | china |
| 04:59.23 | chutwig | alaska? |
| 04:59.24 | ckknight | no, not quite |
| 04:59.35 | ckknight | warmer, chutwig |
| 04:59.39 | chutwig | hawaii |
| 04:59.43 | ckknight | tada |
| 04:59.50 | chutwig | great success |
| 05:00.07 | chutwig | in other news the HH helm healing enchant is broken |
| 05:00.11 | chutwig | damn them |
| 05:00.14 | art3mis | you spend too much time on irc to be in hawaii |
| 05:00.45 | wobWork | Just because he's in hawaii, doesn't mean he sees the sun =P |
| 05:01.01 | art3mis | thats why i think he's lying ;P |
| 05:01.16 | art3mis | if he was straight he'd be at the beach checking hotties |
| 05:01.27 | art3mis | and if he was gay he'd be at the beach checking hotties |
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| 05:01.45 | ckknight_ | blah. |
| 05:01.45 | art3mis | tehrefore sicne he's inside he's either an amorphous blob, or not really in hawaii ;P |
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| 05:02.01 | art3mis | oh this is the best ATHF |
| 05:02.07 | art3mis | cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssse |
| 05:02.09 | vhaarr | chutwig: Broken how? |
| 05:02.12 | ckknight | I'm no amorphous blob |
| 05:02.19 | chutwig | vhaarr: the mp5 part doesn't work |
| 05:02.25 | vhaarr | oh |
| 05:02.36 | chutwig | that's the whole point of getting it >:( |
| 05:06.51 | ckknight | yea, I don't like the weather here |
| 05:06.53 | ckknight | the sun doesn't like me |
| 05:07.47 | chutwig | try england |
| 05:07.54 | chutwig | the lack of sun will quickly drive you to suicidal thoughts |
| 05:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i like the lack of sun |
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| 05:12.24 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 05:12.43 | ckknight | I would try England, except that I'd have to deal with English people |
| 05:12.53 | Funkeh` | scotland ftw |
| 05:13.36 | chutwig | that's true |
| 05:14.01 | Funkeh` | ok, nn now :) |
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| 05:32.33 | ckknight | Rophy: how is Parser-2.0's trailer parsing better? (as alluded to in your forum post) |
| 05:33.09 | Rophy | it gets the tail position from the previous string.find, and starts parsing the trailers from there on. |
| 05:33.31 | ckknight | ah |
| 05:33.33 | ckknight | pimpness |
| 05:34.03 | Rophy | what does that mean :p |
| 05:35.08 | ckknight | well, a pimp is someone who handles prostitutes by taking care of them, beating them when they need it, and collecting the money they make |
| 05:35.59 | ckknight | it may also refer to someone who is a "ladies man" |
| 05:36.35 | ckknight | pimpness in the context that I used it, implies the latter |
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| 05:37.11 | ckknight | hey Nargiddley |
| 05:37.14 | NightHawkTheSane | way to completely disect the phrase, ckknight :P |
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| 05:37.28 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: he asked what it meant. |
| 05:37.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, im just impressed at the completeness of your explanation :) |
| 05:37.47 | ckknight | and the aspect of the pimp is an important one in modern western society |
| 05:39.10 | Nargiddley | hey |
| 05:39.48 | ckknight | you missed the explanation of what pimp meant |
| 05:39.58 | ckknight | big loss I say |
| 05:42.33 | ckknight | Rophy: the big issue I had with ParserLib 1.1 was the icky API |
| 05:42.57 | ckknight | I prefer Parser-3.0's |
| 05:43.18 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27915 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/ (. WaterfallLib.toc): WaterfallLib: Cleanup toc, now lod |
| 05:44.21 | Rophy | ckknight: I agree the API can be improved. |
| 05:44.44 | Rophy | So in Parser-3.0 you put { source="Doggy" } as the regster arguments? |
| 05:45.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:45.26 | ckknight | basically |
| 05:45.41 | ckknight | { eventType = "Damage", sourceName = "Doggy" } |
| 05:45.51 | ckknight | (requires eventType, minimally) |
| 05:46.20 | ckknight | but that gets all damage from Doggy |
| 05:46.31 | ckknight | and if you want noncrits, you put isCrit = false |
| 05:46.34 | Rophy | So ..it's like the old 1.1 approach adding a filter functionality. |
| 05:46.39 | Rophy | I think that's good. |
| 05:46.40 | ckknight | and if you want only crits, you put isCrit = true |
| 05:47.14 | ckknight | so I'm not saying your code was at all bad |
| 05:47.51 | Rophy | I didn't say you think so, the post wasn't referring to you at all, dont worry about that. |
| 05:48.03 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:48.24 | ckknight | but I do want to put the pimptastic trailing optimization into Parser-3.0 |
| 05:48.58 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r27916 10Mendeleev/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:48.58 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev: |
| 05:48.59 | CIA-17 | * Uses PT-3.0-TradeskillResultMats to get the items that the hovered item is a |
| 05:48.59 | CIA-17 | component for, lists those instead of showing the profession now (i.e. |
| 05:48.59 | CIA-17 | "Component in: Elixir of Major Agility" instead of "Used by: Alchemy"). |
| 05:48.59 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.03 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.03 | Rophy | I still think you shouldn't try to mess with unitid in the core though (which seems you aren't doing.) |
| 05:50.50 | Rophy | I have no comment on the extra part (Killikng blow, over heals etc) |
| 05:52.25 | Rophy | and for heal events... iterating through all the raid/party members for every event, for something which not all the mods will use is bad i think. |
| 05:59.16 | CIA-17 | 03durcyn * r27917 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Cooldown.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskills.lua: Match only LOOT_ITEM_CREATED_SELF for CHAT_MSG_LOOT, we don't want cooldowns for pushed items, i.e. motes -> primals |
| 06:03.35 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r27918 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Also show how many of the hovered component is needed to make the item. |
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| 06:16.17 | durcyn | ~seen pprovost |
| 06:16.34 | purl | pprovost <n=PProvost@pool-71-112-39-129.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 12h 46m 38s ago, saying: 'I assume they are LOD based on whether the toon has that skill or not?'. |
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| 06:17.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:17.42 | ckknight | back home |
| 06:18.03 | [w]nuoHep | morning |
| 06:21.19 | Kaelten | hows everyone doin this fine day? |
| 06:21.57 | durcyn | can't sleep. grr. |
| 06:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | can't sleep, clowns will eat you? |
| 06:22.40 | durcyn | no, i fear no clowns. i just can't sleep. |
| 06:22.42 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r27919 10Mendeleev/ (14 files): Mendeleev: Renamed the category files to Sets. |
| 06:22.52 | durcyn | which is not to say i won't fuck up any clown that tries anything |
| 06:23.05 | durcyn | double negatives notwithstanding, that is |
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| 06:24.14 | neenee | Doing fine here, woke up, took a shower, checking the Auction House now, before I go to work in about an hour. |
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| 06:33.05 | Rycochet | is there an ace lib or wow function that lets me find all the professions an item can be used in? rather than just the main one? |
| 06:33.35 | vhaarr | Yeah. |
| 06:33.51 | vhaarr | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Mendeleev/PT3/Mendeleev.lua |
| 06:34.00 | vhaarr | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Mendeleev/PT3/Sets.lua |
| 06:34.40 | Rycochet | got a zip of it? |
| 06:35.08 | vhaarr | No, it's a branch, they don't have autogenerated ZIPs as far as I know. |
| 06:35.15 | Rycochet | hrm, and babble tradeskill aint listed on the wiki |
| 06:35.20 | Rycochet | ah, np |
| 06:35.29 | vhaarr | Babble-Tradeskill is useless for what you want. |
| 06:35.30 | Rycochet | thanks :-) |
| 06:35.40 | Rycochet | looks like it's needed for the lib though |
| 06:35.48 | vhaarr | This is not a library. |
| 06:36.04 | neenee | There is no library. |
| 06:36.05 | vhaarr | The files I pointed you at show you how to extract the relevant information from PeriodicTable-3.0. |
| 06:36.11 | vhaarr | Which is what you want. |
| 06:36.19 | Rycochet | oh, doh |
| 06:36.20 | Rycochet | lol |
| 06:36.33 | neenee | Instead, see that you should provide the information. |
| 06:36.38 | Rycochet | looked at that first, but seemed a little "large" for what i wanted |
| 06:37.15 | vhaarr | Sure, if you bundle AllData. |
| 06:37.18 | vhaarr | But you don't need AllData. |
| 06:38.01 | Rycochet | phew :-) |
| 06:38.17 | vhaarr | You just need Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession.* |
| 06:39.03 | vhaarr | anyway, I'm off. |
| 06:39.19 | Rycochet | thanks :-) |
| 06:39.48 | fanatic | Rycochet, let the pro`s made the addons plz |
| 06:39.54 | fanatic | make* |
| 06:40.36 | Rycochet | lol |
| 06:40.53 | Rycochet | i'm just new to lua and wow - been coding for over 20 years with more languages than i like to remember ;-) |
| 06:41.11 | ckknight | I know like 20 languages |
| 06:41.12 | ckknight | beat that ;-) |
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| 06:41.38 | Rycochet | i think i'm probably about the same, but some haven't been used in a *long* time |
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| 06:41.54 | Rycochet | like coding the bbc micro... ouch |
| 06:42.43 | Rycochet | i can sit down and code well in about 4 now - which is more than enough for my aging brain ;-) |
| 06:43.08 | ckknight | I'm still a youngin' |
| 06:44.56 | Rycochet | me too - i'm only 31 going on 50 ;-) |
| 06:45.51 | Kemayo | I still *feel* like I'm ckknight's age... |
| 06:46.01 | ckknight | Kemayo: how old are you? |
| 06:46.04 | Kemayo | 22 |
| 06:46.39 | Rycochet | as they say, you're only as young as the woman you feel... sadly my wife is older than me by 3 years... oh well... |
| 06:46.43 | Kemayo | Though if you're looking for different life-circumstances, I've been married for 4 years. :D |
| 06:46.52 | durcyn | time to trade up to a younger model, then. |
| 06:47.12 | Rycochet | my wife and i have been together almost 20 years now, married for 6 ;-P |
| 06:47.22 | Rycochet | talk about feeling old ;-P |
| 06:48.07 | Kemayo | ilifin: That error looks like it's due to some radical changes in python's logging module between the version I wrote it for and the one you're using. Either upgrade python, or comment out any line beginning in 'logging'. (Oh, and grab the latest version -- I fixed a bunch of quirks with the new files layout.) |
| 06:48.24 | ckknight | Kemayo: you got married at 18? |
| 06:48.59 | Kemayo | Yup. I'd been 18 for 19 days. |
| 06:49.04 | ckknight | damn |
| 06:49.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: my sincere condolences. |
| 06:49.29 | Kemayo | Nah, it's all good. :) |
| 06:49.29 | Rycochet | lol |
| 06:49.47 | Kemayo | We wouldn't have done it that fast, but I'd have been deported otherwise. :D |
| 06:50.03 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, i see |
| 06:50.07 | Rycochet | ah, the path of true love ;-P |
| 06:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Rycochet: not me, as i have no idea what that is. :) |
| 06:50.17 | Kemayo | Yes, yes! Pure in word and deed! |
| 06:50.30 | Kemayo | Unsullied by material concern. |
| 06:50.46 | RaydenUni | i wish i were married... |
| 06:50.47 | Rycochet | NightHawkTheSane: a mud based on vampire:the masquerade ;-) |
| 06:51.00 | Kemayo | Still, I speak the truth when I say that it worked out well, and I love my wife very much. :-P |
| 06:51.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Rycochet: ahh, thats kinda neat |
| 06:51.20 | Kemayo | My parent's heart attacks were merely an unfortunate side-effect. |
| 06:51.32 | Kemayo | s/parent's/parents'/ |
| 06:52.33 | Rycochet | NightHawkTheSane: there's a couple of muds based on the original codebase still around, but none as good as the original ;-) |
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| 06:52.51 | ckknight | Kemayo: ah, so it was a greencard marriage |
| 06:52.55 | Kemayo | (Coincidentally, my wife is currently on the other side of the country from me, selling gay porn for two weeks. It's a strange ol' world, huh?) |
| 06:53.14 | Rycochet | lol |
| 06:53.29 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 06:53.37 | Rycochet | so somehow there's a coincidence in that then eh ;-) |
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| 06:53.56 | RaydenUni | yeah i want to hear how it is a coincidence |
| 06:54.11 | Kemayo | ckknight: That was definitely the reasoning behind getting married precisely when we did. It would still have happened eventually, but... |
| 06:54.20 | ckknight | yea, I understand. |
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| 06:54.46 | NightHawkTheSane | (it's a coincidence, because while she's gone, Kemayo is going to be -buying- gay porn for two weeks..) >.> |
| 06:54.51 | NightHawkTheSane | (kidding :P ) |
| 06:54.52 | Rycochet | lol |
| 06:55.03 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 06:55.14 | Kemayo | Well, 'coincidentally' is probably a poor word choice. The statement was intended largely to reflect that I was talking about true love, etc, while she's far away peddling porn. :D |
| 06:55.25 | RaydenUni | your wife sells gay porn for a living? |
| 06:56.29 | Kemayo | I like to call it gay porn, but she'd complain if she heard me. It's really romance novels/comics about gay men, aimed at straight women. The direct mirror of lesbian porn. |
| 06:57.01 | RaydenUni | so not graphic? |
| 06:57.08 | Kemayo | Not all of it... |
| 06:57.29 | RaydenUni | also, why the heck would women want to fantasize about gay porn? |
| 06:57.30 | ckknight | oh, I know someone who writes that stuff |
| 06:57.31 | ZealotOnAStick | She pimps yaoi? |
| 06:57.38 | RaydenUni | someow i don't see it being similar to lesbian porn |
| 06:58.06 | Kemayo | ZealotOnAStick: Yeah, pretty much. |
| 06:58.14 | ZealotOnAStick | RaydenUni: I don't know precisely, but there's a big market for it. All the yaoi/slash out there . . . |
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| 06:58.38 | durcyn | yaoi leads to furries, furries leads to yiffing, yiffing leads to the dark side... |
| 06:58.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Daniel Radcliffe doing Equus has done a big bit to bolster the resurgence of various Harry Potter slash fic . . . |
| 06:58.48 | RaydenUni | yiffing? do i want to know? |
| 06:59.02 | Rycochet | i seem to remember reading in a journal some time ago that apparently more women find male gay porn a turn on than men finding lesbian porn a turn on... strange... |
| 06:59.03 | Kemayo | If you want to know, google will tell you. |
| 06:59.24 | RaydenUni | let me know if its safe |
| 06:59.28 | Rycochet | just watch that CSI episode with the furries in it ;-) |
| 06:59.32 | Rycochet | not really ;-P |
| 06:59.41 | RaydenUni | i saw that one |
| 07:00.22 | kergoth | hmm, thers no way to pick up on a debuff on the target being refreshed, is there.. |
| 07:00.23 | RaydenUni | hmmm |
| 07:00.31 | RaydenUni | "no actual sexual contact is involved" |
| 07:00.42 | RaydenUni | so its like a cuddle party for furries |
| 07:00.47 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r27920 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames: Updated locales koKR |
| 07:00.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Not always. |
| 07:01.08 | Rycochet | i've got a friend who's a furry |
| 07:01.18 | ZealotOnAStick | There's also a variant of it (apparently) of just heavy groping/fondling/downright getting it on in furry costume. |
| 07:01.27 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27921 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 07:01.27 | CIA-17 | Parser-3.0 - fix the rare word catcher (didn't clear tmp table before) |
| 07:01.27 | CIA-17 | - make the trailers only check the end part of the string. (also do a standard length check to see if said trailers are possible) |
| 07:01.34 | Rycochet | coincidentally (*heh) he's also a high-paid troubleshooter for the mysql cluster section ;-) |
| 07:01.45 | Kemayo | (Isn't it fun to see how far you can derail a channel sometimes?) |
| 07:01.57 | ZealotOnAStick | IRC has rails? |
| 07:02.03 | RaydenUni | well first you need to find a channel with a topic |
| 07:02.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Maybe if you go over to the Ruby chans . . . |
| 07:02.11 | Rycochet | it's why i've been ignoring my irc addiction in preference of my wow addiction for some time now ;-) |
| 07:02.17 | RaydenUni | places like #naturalselection have an unspoken rule you can't talk about natural selection |
| 07:02.34 | RaydenUni | only unrelated topics |
| 07:02.40 | Rycochet | go to #darwingawards for that ;-) |
| 07:02.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:02.44 | Rycochet | -g |
| 07:02.57 | ckknight | Parser-3.0 works now. |
| 07:03.03 | Kemayo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.34 | RaydenUni | so uh... speaking of wow mods. someone should make a 2d connected graph of who is aggro'd on what during combat |
| 07:03.35 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27922 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove debug lines |
| 07:06.55 | rubik | umm.. there a reason that /tloc does nothing on recent svn cartographer? |
| 07:07.05 | ckknight | woot, I got Parser-3.0's trailer parsing to be more efficient than 2.0's ;-) |
| 07:07.11 | ckknight | mostly due to the length check |
| 07:07.13 | Kaelten | rubik: renamed to /way I think |
| 07:08.00 | rubik | that it was.. thanks Kaelten |
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| 07:11.32 | Kaelten | looks like wau doesn't like the new minor revision number |
| 07:12.22 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27923 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints - make /tloc and /tway just link to the same thing as /way. /tloc is good for backwards compatibility on thottbot. |
| 07:13.13 | Kaelten | thank you ck, most asked questino of the day |
| 07:13.17 | Kaelten | :) |
| 07:13.25 | ckknight | I don't know why it was taken it |
| 07:13.28 | ckknight | it shouldn't've been |
| 07:13.42 | Kaelten | someone else did it? |
| 07:13.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:13.56 | Kaelten | should they be in trouble? |
| 07:24.06 | Thorgard | Rycochet, are you trying to keep the subject on furries? :o |
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| 07:28.28 | Kaelten | oh great... my little girl has a 102 fever |
| 07:31.45 | Rycochet | :-/ |
| 07:31.59 | ckknight | stick her in the freezer |
| 07:32.02 | ckknight | problem solved |
| 07:32.09 | Thorgard | Oral? |
| 07:32.10 | Rycochet | had half my friends and their kids down with something the past week, from food poisoning, the flu, to chicken pox... |
| 07:39.36 | Kaelten | Thorgard: ear themo |
| 07:39.56 | Kaelten | we got it down to 101.4 |
| 07:40.14 | Kaelten | and I don't think the ibprofen has kicked in yet |
| 07:40.17 | Thorgard | Not too bad of a fever, then. |
| 07:41.25 | fanatic | my dad always penetrated his penis inside me when i was young, he claimed he was checking my temp |
| 07:42.16 | Kaelten | really not very funny atm |
| 07:42.25 | Zicon | He penetrated his penis, you say. What did he penetrate it with? |
| 07:43.34 | fanatic | it was damn funny |
| 07:43.36 | fanatic | im still laughing |
| 07:45.43 | Kaelten | ... |
| 07:46.04 | Thorgard | Aerr |
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| 07:58.34 | mitch0 | mornin' |
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| 08:01.58 | Rophy | ckknight: for the trailers I think better leave them nil if the trailer doesn't exist, don't make it 0. |
| 08:02.20 | ckknight | disagree |
| 08:02.26 | Rophy | Sometimes I need to know if it's 0 or nil. |
| 08:02.27 | ckknight | you can't have a block of 0 |
| 08:02.43 | Rophy | you can have a absorb of 0 though... although rare. |
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| 08:03.56 | ckknight | in such a fringe case, wouldn't it be okay to assume that an absorb never happened at all? |
| 08:04.48 | Rophy | I think our main difference of view is that, I always think you should be able to reverse the parsed info whenever possible. |
| 08:05.32 | Rophy | If (absorbed 0) actually happens, I should be able to know that. Whether it makes sense or not is not the problem of a parser. |
| 08:06.08 | Rophy | ParserLib_SELF vs "Rophy" being another case of whether you should try to convert some information for the user or not. |
| 08:07.22 | ckknight | nil doesn't exist as far as Parser-3.0 is concerned |
| 08:07.32 | ckknight | I set it up so that nil didn't exist |
| 08:07.39 | ckknight | all values would either be 0 or false |
| 08:07.43 | Rophy | So what happens for 'hit' with no source/ |
| 08:08.08 | Rophy | WoW 2.0 new patterns: "Firewall hits Rophy for 100.", where "Firewall" is a skill and not a source. |
| 08:08.41 | Rophy | WoW patterns keep changing, and have the possibility to be nil is more verbose. |
| 08:08.57 | Rophy | err.. not verbose, flexible :p |
| 08:09.58 | |Kev| | ilifin: I'll be updating macaceupdater today |
| 08:12.30 | ckknight | if hit has no source, it's false |
| 08:13.00 | ckknight | false is for values that should be there but aren't |
| 08:13.06 | ckknight | as well as real false |
| 08:13.34 | ckknight | compared to nil, which tells nothing |
| 08:13.43 | Rophy | nil means it's 'optional'. |
| 08:14.08 | ckknight | you haven't convinced me at all |
| 08:14.32 | ckknight | it's easier to work with true/false than true/nil |
| 08:14.39 | ckknight | nil means it doesn't exist, provides no information if it ever did exist |
| 08:14.46 | Rophy | because it seems you don't care all the special cases, e.g. absorb=0 ? |
| 08:14.57 | ckknight | false means it can exist but doesn't |
| 08:15.33 | Rophy | so, make absorb=false? |
| 08:16.01 | Rophy | nil or false doesn't matter to me, just think that absorb=0 does mean absorb doesn't exist. |
| 08:16.07 | Rophy | doesn't* |
| 08:16.34 | ckknight | absorb = 0 is a pointless case |
| 08:16.34 | ckknight | it means nothing all in all |
| 08:16.34 | ckknight | no, it's a number |
| 08:16.34 | ckknight | it absorbed for 0 |
| 08:16.34 | ckknight | which means it didn't absorb anything |
| 08:16.36 | ckknight | absorb is guaranteed to be a number |
| 08:16.53 | ckknight | absorb = 0 means that nothing was absorbed, do you agree? |
| 08:17.26 | nee|work | Well, I do. |
| 08:17.28 | Rophy | as an example why it matters... SimpleCombatLog is meant to be a complete replacement of the default log. If "You hit 100. (absorbed 0)" actually happens, it should be shown in the combat log. |
| 08:18.00 | ckknight | why? you didn't absorb anything. why bother showing it? |
| 08:18.10 | ckknight | the user doesn't need to see it |
| 08:18.16 | ckknight | it's pointless |
| 08:18.17 | Rophy | Because the original combat log does showed it, which is uncommon, and users might want to know it. |
| 08:18.18 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27924 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Added support for icons on tree entries, will work with fed AceOptions tables as well |
| 08:18.28 | nee|work | The users want to see changes |
| 08:18.46 | ckknight | users don't care about an absorb that does absolutely nothing |
| 08:19.48 | Rophy | I dont think no one care when something strange does happened. There is probably a reason behind it. |
| 08:19.48 | Rophy | and it does happen, I don't know why though. |
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| 08:19.50 | Rophy | anyway, just two different approaches, I'll respect your decision. |
| 08:19.53 | nee|work | Hm. But then you are providing info about anomalies for those wanting to see odd occurances instead of useful info |
| 08:20.00 | ckknight | come back when you have something tangible |
| 08:20.00 | ckknight | gonna watch King of the Hill |
| 08:20.02 | krka | i for one agree with Rophy on this one |
| 08:20.34 | Rophy | I'm providing exactly what the original combat log provided. |
| 08:20.34 | krka | maybe there's some bonus that could activate on absorb, even if it was 0 |
| 08:20.56 | ckknight | is there? |
| 08:20.58 | nee|work | Nope. |
| 08:21.00 | Rophy | may be there is, may be there isn't. No way it should be the matter of a combat log parser. |
| 08:21.21 | Rophy | it should be the matter of the addon to determine if it cares or not. |
| 08:21.28 | krka | perhaps not for that case, but there could be other similar cases |
| 08:21.30 | ckknight | I disagree, I still see no reason to not set it to 0 by default |
| 08:21.42 | Rophy | when there is an addon which does care, how can it distiguish? |
| 08:21.48 | ckknight | krka: find me a single case and I'll consider switching |
| 08:21.54 | Rophy | ask the addon to not use Parser-3.0? |
| 08:22.10 | ckknight | Rophy: find a single case where it matters. |
| 08:22.17 | ckknight | actually matters |
| 08:22.36 | ckknight | not just where the user wants a perfectly reconstructed combat log |
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| 08:23.17 | Rophy | e.g., someone which wants to record when will absorb=0 actually happens, so he wrote an addon. |
| 08:23.35 | Rophy | so tell him his addon is useless and fuck off? |
| 08:23.54 | ckknight | once again, find me a single real case where it actually matters |
| 08:24.01 | ckknight | until then, this conversation is over |
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| 08:26.37 | Rophy | Anyway I have to disagree ckknight's approach where he is trying to do too much, which actually makes some parsed information lost when it got passed to the client. |
| 08:26.53 | Rophy | But whatever, we just have different views. |
| 08:41.37 | Arrowmaster | hmm thats weird, clockfu was showing me the wrong date ingame, was saying it was still monday when its tuesday |
| 08:43.46 | Elkano | you don't believe the all mighty ClockFu? You shall be stoned to death! |
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| 08:52.47 | nee|work | Egh. The Ring of Blood is really difficult when a bunch of players of the other faction are there messing things up. But this morning I did it solo with my priest, I was helped by five Horde, we took turn with each boss :) |
| 08:53.07 | nee|work | This afternoon I have to try it with my girlfriends' character though. |
| 08:53.40 | fanatic | im always there putting unstable affliction on the alliance tank |
| 08:54.17 | xyu` | i like to go there and police it. |
| 08:54.24 | xyu` | some big fights break out |
| 08:54.48 | xyu` | i also don't let the horde have outside help when attempting |
| 08:54.52 | nee|work | Well, I hope I'll get it done this afternoon. Perhaps I'll try the LFM tool |
| 08:54.54 | xyu` | i'll let teh 5 man do it |
| 08:54.56 | xyu` | but if anyone heals |
| 08:54.59 | xyu` | or helps from outside |
| 08:55.09 | xyu` | i'll peekay |
| 08:55.22 | nee|work | I just want to get it done. I don't care who helps. |
| 08:55.32 | fanatic | i kept owning a 5 man alliance guild group doing it |
| 08:55.38 | fanatic | they had to leave and do it later when i was gone |
| 08:55.42 | fanatic | never seen so much insults on irc |
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| 08:56.36 | xyu` | haha. it's a really great choke point. because so many people are anxious to do it. |
| 08:56.46 | fanatic | i love it |
| 08:56.46 | xyu` | they cry irl if they can't finish it when they finally get that 5man |
| 08:56.48 | xyu` | <3 |
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| 08:56.56 | fanatic | go there with my flying mount and land on top of the building |
| 08:57.00 | fanatic | and put dots on em |
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| 08:57.21 | fanatic | then you can see them gather up a raid |
| 08:57.26 | fanatic | and you just fly away |
| 08:57.30 | fanatic | and come back when it has settled |
| 08:57.32 | fanatic | and repeat |
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| 08:58.19 | nee|work | I wish the bored level 70s would just go do some instance in a remote area |
| 08:59.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Often times it's a case of not being able to get a damn group for the instances. |
| 08:59.23 | fanatic | sometimes its just pissing people off is more fun then instances |
| 08:59.33 | fanatic | iv gotten the gear out of the 25 mans i want |
| 08:59.57 | ZealotOnAStick | 25 mans? |
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| 09:00.40 | fanatic | outside of the 25 man dungeons |
| 09:00.50 | fanatic | and im exalted with all the factions i need anything from |
| 09:01.02 | fanatic | so, all i do is pissing alliance off |
| 09:01.09 | fanatic | killing as many legolas`es as possible |
| 09:10.57 | wobin | That's a public service, that |
| 09:13.08 | nee|work | http://www.dunemaul.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=148925 :) |
| 09:13.22 | wobin | blah |
| 09:13.34 | wobin | What nationality is uaxli? |
| 09:13.46 | wobin | I'd like to possibly repeat my post in his/her language |
| 09:14.03 | nee|work | uaxli? |
| 09:14.09 | wobin | on forum |
| 09:14.13 | wobin | wowace that is |
| 09:14.27 | nee|work | Ah, not a clue. |
| 09:15.37 | ZealotOnAStick | gimme a couple, I'll see if I can figure it out. |
| 09:15.39 | krka | where can i find a german GlobalStrings or something? |
| 09:15.57 | wobin | From a german? |
| 09:16.08 | krka | where can i find a german? |
| 09:16.14 | wobin | Germany? |
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| 09:16.21 | wobin | (Just a guess, mind you) |
| 09:16.22 | krka | where can i find germany? |
| 09:16.28 | wobin | On a map? |
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| 09:17.08 | wobin | Or, actually step outside, face one direction, then start walking in a straight line. Every forty steps, take one step to the left. |
| 09:17.14 | wobin | You'll hit Germany in no time at all |
| 09:17.15 | abbat_w | morning guys |
| 09:17.18 | krka | actually... what i really want to know, is what kind of tokens are used in the globalstrings |
| 09:17.20 | nee|work | Hi abbat_w |
| 09:17.24 | wobin | hey abbat |
| 09:17.27 | krka | like %d, %s, %.1f |
| 09:17.31 | krka | those are all i've found so far |
| 09:17.39 | krka | (in the english) |
| 09:18.50 | fanatic | any mages here |
| 09:19.10 | mitch0 | yep |
| 09:19.13 | abbat_w | <- mage |
| 09:19.23 | Rycochet | krka: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_format |
| 09:19.35 | krka | thanks |
| 09:19.50 | Rycochet | those are standard formatting tokens, the won't change by language |
| 09:20.09 | krka | now, i recall something about changing order of parameters |
| 09:20.15 | krka | how does that syntax work? |
| 09:20.32 | fanatic | frost or fire for leveling |
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| 09:20.40 | Adirelle|work | hi there |
| 09:21.04 | Kjellviz | fire |
| 09:21.05 | Adirelle|work | does anyone has trouble with cart_quests not loading ? |
| 09:21.05 | Kjellviz | at least until 40+ |
| 09:21.05 | mitch0 | fanatic: been deep frost since level 30-ish... |
| 09:21.09 | mitch0 | at 65 atm |
| 09:21.58 | mitch0 | I had no problem with leveling, but obviously I don't know shit about fire or arcane leveling to compare to... |
| 09:22.15 | Rycochet | krka: can't remember offhand, just lookup stdargs in google or something |
| 09:22.28 | Adirelle|work | I guess the answer is no |
| 09:22.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Looks like Russian (uaxli) |
| 09:22.54 | Kjellviz | id say up until 35-40 fire is best due to dealing more dmg per mana and second |
| 09:23.09 | Kjellviz | but after that crowdcontrolling becomes more valuable |
| 09:23.39 | Kjellviz | since ull more often pull more than 1 mob and dying really aint an effcient way of leveling >< |
| 09:23.55 | ZealotOnAStick | wobin: you catch that? |
| 09:24.01 | wobin | ZealotOnAStick: Aye, thanks =) |
| 09:24.14 | wobin | Now I need someone to translate my message into cyrillic =P |
| 09:24.17 | krka | thanks Rycochet that helped |
| 09:24.50 | abbat_w | fanatic, doesn't matter which build you select for lvling. But if you want to do mass aoe for XP, frost much better then fire |
| 09:25.51 | ZealotOnAStick | There are those who prefer both. Fire is probably a bit faster, but with more downtime (though that depends somewhat on how much you dip into arcane as well), Frost is slower but safer. |
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| 09:26.23 | abbat_w | Don't agree about slower but agree with safer ;) |
| 09:26.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Make sure you also get a good wand and try to keep getting one upgraded DPS wise for your level, wand DPS is useful for helping with mana concerns. |
| 09:27.00 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:27.21 | abbat_w | I use aoe grind for lvling from 30 to 60 lvl |
| 09:27.22 | mitch0 | well, in a way I did. I used a +20 frost dmg wand, and that helps my dpm :) |
| 09:27.28 | abbat_w | With frost for sure ;) |
| 09:27.58 | mitch0 | frost is very nice, imo. one nice thing would be of frostbite were a toggle-able ability :) |
| 09:28.04 | abbat_w | But while i lvl from 60 to 70 i play with pvp build, fire/frost |
| 09:28.14 | abbat_w | And i have no problems |
| 09:28.20 | fanatic | but like |
| 09:28.25 | fanatic | is frost realy slower |
| 09:28.30 | abbat_w | No ;) |
| 09:28.32 | mitch0 | no |
| 09:28.36 | fanatic | like 0.5sec saved on each bolt |
| 09:28.53 | abbat_w | You can kill 10-15 mobs you lvl with frost |
| 09:28.57 | mitch0 | and the water elemental is nice, too |
| 09:29.00 | wobin | =( |
| 09:29.03 | abbat_w | by using blizzard for example |
| 09:29.09 | wobin | I wish my latency allowed for solo aoe farming |
| 09:29.39 | mitch0 | if only it scaled better as you level up... mine can't keep bolting for all its duration |
| 09:32.57 | Adirelle|work | how works dependency between LoD addons ? |
| 09:33.25 | Adirelle|work | specifically, I'm wondering about dependency on Cartographer_Notes |
| 09:33.37 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro * r27925 10ArkInventory/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:33.37 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:33.38 | CIA-17 | - v1.32 |
| 09:33.45 | Adirelle|work | what happens to Cartographer_Mining if Cartographer_Notes is made LoD ? |
| 09:34.21 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: any clue on this one ? |
| 09:34.24 | wobin | Cart_Mining probably has notes as a depenancy? |
| 09:34.31 | wobin | so it loads up notes |
| 09:35.11 | Adirelle|work | if notes ain't loaded, that should prevent loading of mining, shouldn't it ? |
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| 09:35.24 | wobin | if it's set as a dependancy yes |
| 09:36.10 | Adirelle|work | and if it is not and mining is loaded first, as mining disables itself if it doesn't find notes, that won't works either |
| 09:36.20 | wobin | ? |
| 09:36.32 | wobin | But if it's set as a dependancy, it won't load |
| 09:36.52 | Adirelle|work | wel... first, let's check |
| 09:37.38 | Adirelle|work | okay, there is no Notes dependancy in Mining |
| 09:37.51 | Adirelle|work | just required dep on Cartographer |
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| 09:38.58 | Adirelle|work | as we can't rely on loading order, making Notes LoD should mess up thoses modules :( |
| 09:38.59 | Kaelten | hey guys I've got a patch for wau |
| 09:39.01 | Kaelten | fixes some of the issues with the new scripts |
| 09:39.03 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/wau/ |
| 09:39.05 | Kaelten | install doesn't seem to work right under FF2 |
| 09:39.07 | Kaelten | though |
| 09:40.05 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: can't even guess how it should install :D |
| 09:40.27 | nee|work | it's just a link to setup.exe though |
| 09:40.30 | Adirelle|work | and doesn't work with IEtab |
| 09:41.03 | Kaelten | ya, but it does some freaky stuff with some xml or some such |
| 09:41.08 | Adirelle|work | nor it does with my IE6 |
| 09:41.46 | nee|work | I can download it just fine with Opera |
| 09:41.56 | Kaelten | works with IETab on my laptop |
| 09:42.02 | Kaelten | it does have IE7 installed though |
| 09:42.22 | Kaelten | one of the nice things about doing this publish crap though is once you get it installed if I publish and update you'll get pinged to auto upgrade |
| 09:43.02 | Adirelle|work | okay... getting .NET 2 to test (thought I already have it) |
| 09:43.20 | Kaelten | ya, I wished it worked in all the browsers :s |
| 09:43.26 | nee|work | Oh yea, it does something weird with my browser too |
| 09:43.27 | Kaelten | if it did it'd actually be really cool |
| 09:43.36 | evl | nee|work: updated most of my addons now btw. |
| 09:43.52 | Kaelten | shows a blarb of xml? |
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| 09:43.55 | nee|work | evl: What did you update them for? |
| 09:43.57 | nee|work | Kaelten: yup |
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| 09:44.08 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: what not using Java Webstart ? I heard it can work with non-java stuff |
| 09:44.13 | Kaelten | ya, load it up in IE and install and then close the bitch forever. |
| 09:44.16 | evl | nee|work: some new ones, some fixes, some improvements :P |
| 09:44.24 | nee|work | evl: oki, looking at it now ;) |
| 09:44.50 | Kaelten | Adirelle|work: this is something built into VisualStudio |
| 09:45.04 | Kaelten | its actually a pretty lightweight install script. |
| 09:45.10 | Adirelle|work | VisualStudio, like in Microsoft VisualStudio ? |
| 09:45.30 | Kaelten | ya, well C# is a MVS language |
| 09:45.44 | Kaelten | lol it installed it with the group being my name... thats not right |
| 09:45.44 | Kaelten | lol |
| 09:45.48 | nee|work | evl: Charges is new I think, but I use a modified version of evl_Fonts already ;) |
| 09:45.57 | Adirelle|work | well, don't look further will it may not work with non-MS browsers :p |
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| 09:46.26 | Adirelle|work | brb (coffee time) |
| 09:46.55 | Kaelten | Adirelle|work: lol ya I know :s |
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| 09:47.11 | wobin | hm |
| 09:47.21 | wobin | lokos like I'll have to make a corpsePoint object |
| 09:47.46 | nee|work | Hm.. Are normal flying mounts 60% on land too? |
| 09:48.09 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 09:48.13 | nee|work | :| |
| 09:48.42 | Kaelten | its more an interm thing. if I continue to support it I'll end up with something more cross browser |
| 09:50.21 | Kaelten | I can't remember whats the comment character in javascript? |
| 09:50.39 | Punkie` | ' ? |
| 09:51.06 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.10 | krka | // or /* */ |
| 09:51.11 | Kaelten | nope |
| 09:51.28 | krka | works for me |
| 09:51.43 | Kaelten | was saying nope to punkie |
| 09:51.49 | Kaelten | I think thats the comment char from vb |
| 09:52.02 | Punkie` | yeah it is |
| 09:52.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Rycochet: there's a mac ace updater, actually. Though i prefer the "write my own damn script" solution ;) |
| 09:52.19 | Rycochet | there is, link, LINK!!!! ;-P |
| 09:52.36 | nee|work | http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/ |
| 09:52.43 | Rycochet | i'd end up writing it in php and running it locally over my test server if i did one ;-) |
| 09:52.47 | Kaelten | lol did Kev get it working? |
| 09:52.59 | Kaelten | I know the new html borked it some |
| 09:53.00 | Punkie` | isn't there a decent python script for mac? |
| 09:53.06 | |Kev| | Kaelten: not yet, I'm about to do it :) |
| 09:53.11 | Rycochet | thanks :-) |
| 09:53.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Rycochet: er, and what's wrong with that? :P |
| 09:53.29 | nee|work | :) |
| 09:53.41 | Rycochet | NightHawkTheSane: trying to stay away from php coding for a while - as i've got a website to fix for a clown when i get back to it |
| 09:53.52 | Rycochet | literally a clown - www.annualclownsdirectory.com |
| 09:53.56 | Rycochet | ;-P |
| 09:53.59 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 09:54.04 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 09:54.04 | |Kev| | Kaelten: I'll just hack to the new html format imminently, just so it works again, and then look at how to parse xml in cocoa :) |
| 09:54.10 | Kaelten | php makes my skin crawl |
| 09:54.10 | Kaelten | lol |
| 09:54.32 | |Kev| | hopefully this means one release today, and one tomorrow, we'll see how it goes :) |
| 09:54.38 | Kaelten | |Kev|: :) didn't mean to borke anyones app in fact I hacked in support for latest.txt and the like |
| 09:54.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah my script is written in php, because thats what i what i was most up on. Been meaning to rewrite it in perl, or something but i'm real lazy. it'd involve lots of looking up module documentation |
| 09:55.12 | Kaelten | although those files will be abandoned in a few months |
| 09:55.17 | |Kev| | NightHawkTheSane: mau is written in objective-c and cocoa because that's what I was least up on :) |
| 09:55.53 | Kaelten | I've heard of objective-c |
| 09:56.00 | Kaelten | never looked at it though |
| 09:56.30 | Rycochet | someone should write it in java, just so it works on everything - after all, you never know when you want to update them in beos (despite the lack of wow client...) |
| 09:56.30 | Rycochet | ;-) |
| 09:56.30 | Kaelten | lately I've been burrowing deeper into python and django |
| 09:56.30 | NightHawkTheSane | there is/was a java ace updater |
| 09:56.31 | NightHawkTheSane | not sure what happened to that though |
| 09:56.56 | krka | lots of people that run linux / mac / windows, so a cross platform is not a bad idea |
| 09:57.07 | krka | java is not the only option though, python should work fine too |
| 09:57.10 | Nickenyfiken | i wrote a java one :-P |
| 09:57.12 | Rycochet | i won't touch coding java - taught it at uni, and that put me off for life... |
| 09:57.14 | Nickenyfiken | but it's dead now |
| 09:57.25 | NightHawkTheSane | |Kev|: yeah at the time it was "i want a working script" and not "i'd like to learn something" so :) if I wanted to recode it now, i'd probably take the opportunity and learn ruby or something |
| 09:57.27 | |Kev| | Rycochet: why did you teach it then? |
| 09:57.45 | Rycochet | didn't know the students would scar me so deeply ;-P |
| 09:57.53 | |Kev| | I actually think Java is a very very good choice for software development |
| 09:58.10 | |Kev| | and in my experience, students scar you whatever you teach them |
| 09:58.12 | Rycochet | got nothing against it - just against using it myself |
| 09:58.18 | Rycochet | hehe, true ;-) |
| 09:58.23 | |Kev| | LISP being a good example :) |
| 09:58.37 | |Kev| | I don't like writing Java very much |
| 09:58.38 | Kaelten | er dose and however you spell medi |
| 09:58.38 | |Kev| | if at all |
| 09:58.43 | |Kev| | howevery |
| 09:58.46 | |Kev| | s/y// |
| 09:58.47 | nee|work | *medicine |
| 09:58.55 | |Kev| | if I had to read anyone else's code, I'd rather read Java |
| 09:59.06 | Rycochet | go on, someone write an ace updater in LOGO... ;-) |
| 09:59.08 | |Kev| | because there's less chance of them having written something unintelligable |
| 09:59.19 | Rycochet | i want that mouse crawling over the floor to update it... ;-) |
| 10:00.06 | nadas | Kaelten: wau 1.7.0.10 is on drugs |
| 10:00.13 | Kaelten | nadas? |
| 10:00.23 | Kaelten | drugs? |
| 10:00.25 | |Kev| | anyway, let's fix mau :) |
| 10:00.27 | Kaelten | bad wau |
| 10:00.30 | Rycochet | my bag mod is coming along well btw, hacking away at onebag, so now got tabs, and the sorting working, so just need to get the display looking less like crap and add some options :-) |
| 10:00.32 | nadas | like, it thinks the latest fubar is rev 265412 |
| 10:00.53 | nadas | obviously it fails downloading the file as that revision is well into the future :) |
| 10:01.14 | nadas | it does that with a bunch of addons btw |
| 10:01.26 | Kaelten | nadas 26541.2 |
| 10:01.39 | Kaelten | not 265412 |
| 10:01.52 | nadas | FuBar - Updating to rev 265412 |
| 10:02.01 | nadas | System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found. |
| 10:02.12 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 10:02.18 | Kaelten | using the main mirror right? |
| 10:02.22 | nadas | yeah |
| 10:02.25 | nadas | files.wowace.com |
| 10:02.27 | Nickenyfiken | my WAU is a 1.7.9.0... |
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| 10:03.29 | Kaelten | nadas: I'm wondering why its messing up on your computer and not mine :s |
| 10:03.48 | Kaelten | Nickenyfiken: restart it it should prompt for a update (assuming its on my branch) |
| 10:04.00 | nadas | could it be regional settings? |
| 10:04.04 | Kaelten | FuBar - Updating to rev 26541.2 |
| 10:04.04 | Kaelten | Downloading... done. |
| 10:04.04 | Kaelten | Uninstalling existing... done. |
| 10:04.04 | Kaelten | Extracting ZIP file... done. |
| 10:04.05 | Kaelten | Deleting ZIP file... done. |
| 10:04.20 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 10:04.22 | nadas | as in, .might be disregarded |
| 10:04.23 | Kaelten | possibily |
| 10:04.40 | Kaelten | one of the fixes I had to do was to switch it over to a double instead of an int |
| 10:04.45 | Nickenyfiken | well, what i was saying is that my WAU 1.7.9.0 should be a newer version compared to nadas 1.7.0.10 |
| 10:04.54 | Kaelten | hrm not sure |
| 10:05.04 | Nickenyfiken | or have i forgotten how versioning numbers work maybe? |
| 10:05.16 | sbi | anyone playing in eu, and can suggest e med/low pop server? |
| 10:05.18 | Kaelten | I just chose 1.7.0.1 to start publishing on and used up .10 publishes so far testing stuff |
| 10:05.24 | Kaelten | nadas: where are you at? |
| 10:05.47 | nadas | Kaelten: denmark. dot is thousand separator and comma is decimal separator :) |
| 10:05.58 | nadas | if you're converting to a double it will disregard the dot |
| 10:06.11 | nadas | which would explain my problem :p |
| 10:06.16 | sbi | nadas, it should be so even in italy, but noone use that convention :E |
| 10:06.25 | Kaelten | yep, thats just weird :P |
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| 10:06.59 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: still doesn't work, even with .NET 2 SP1 installed |
| 10:07.13 | Adirelle|work | it just show me a nasty XML thing |
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| 10:08.58 | nee|work | Perhaps the browser needs to be taught to execute instead of open the file |
| 10:09.16 | nee|work | Then again, Internet Explorer might just execute it because it has unsafe defaults when it comes to executing files |
| 10:09.29 | Adirelle|work | or maybe the mime-type is wrong ? |
| 10:09.42 | nadas | well, my problem is that anyway, the dot being disregarded as a thousand separator in the conversion due to regional settings |
| 10:09.53 | nadas | blame microsoft |
| 10:10.00 | sbi | it's not a msoft fault |
| 10:10.01 | sbi | btw |
| 10:10.10 | Cyrez | No, blame Canada. |
| 10:10.11 | Cyrez | lol |
| 10:10.14 | nadas | hehe |
| 10:10.16 | sbi | setting the locale just for that application could fix the problem |
| 10:10.25 | sbi | Cyrez, good point .p |
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| 10:10.37 | Cyrez | ^^ |
| 10:10.54 | dafire | hi .9 |
| 10:10.59 | Kaelten | nadas: I'm seeing if I can override it |
| 10:11.03 | nadas | yeah, setting the locale should work |
| 10:11.07 | nadas | Kaelten: <3 |
| 10:11.18 | Kaelten | now I just got to figure out how to do that :) |
| 10:11.23 | dafire | does anybody knows why some of the filenames on wowace.com changed ? |
| 10:11.36 | Kaelten | dafire which ones? |
| 10:11.42 | dafire | e.g. http://www.wowace.com/files/FuBar/FuBar-r26541.2.zip .. that does the .2. means ? |
| 10:11.56 | Kaelten | oh, it changed because I decided to torture everyone |
| 10:11.58 | Kaelten | but mainly you |
| 10:12.01 | Kaelten | :) |
| 10:12.21 | dafire | yeah .. that's what i guessed ,9 |
| 10:12.23 | Kaelten | hehe, j/k |
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| 10:12.40 | wobin | poor Rikitikitembo =( |
| 10:12.46 | wobin | I've killed him so many times now =( |
| 10:12.48 | Kaelten | the .2 means that while fubar's files havnen't changed a lib its used has and so those are updated files in relation to that aspect |
| 10:13.16 | Kaelten | also for those who havnen't seen it |
| 10:13.23 | Kaelten | files.wowace.com/latest.txt |
| 10:13.26 | Kaelten | er |
| 10:13.26 | Adirelle|work | okay, Kaelten, you should configure Apache so it uses "application/x-ms-application" as mime-type for .application files |
| 10:13.28 | Kaelten | files.wowace.com/latest.xml |
| 10:13.32 | sbi | Kaelten, or just use .Parse(xx,System.Globalization.NumberFormatInfo) passing the eng one |
| 10:13.56 | sbi | should be a cleaner solution, unless i did not get the point |
| 10:14.09 | dafire | do the latest.xml always includes all addons ? |
| 10:14.26 | Kaelten | dafire: yes |
| 10:14.36 | dafire | ok .9 |
| 10:14.49 | dafire | thanks :9 |
| 10:15.06 | SkorcherX | omg is flexbar2 ever going to be functional? im ready to start donating $ if it helps to get it going |
| 10:15.27 | Kaelten | sbi: will that force it to use the english style number? |
| 10:15.46 | sbi | Kaelten, yes, just when parsing that string |
| 10:15.46 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: ping ? |
| 10:16.32 | wobin | SkorcherX: You probably can =) |
| 10:16.33 | Kaelten | Adirelle|work: pong? |
| 10:16.38 | |Kev| | erm |
| 10:16.45 | |Kev| | Macaceupdater still works for me |
| 10:16.54 | |Kev| | oh, right, I'm using the mirror :) |
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| 10:17.03 | Borked|Coolyo | Hello |
| 10:17.07 | |Kev| | that would explain it :) |
| 10:17.19 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: |
| 10:17.20 | Adirelle|work | <Adirelle|work> okay, Kaelten, you should configure Apache so it uses "application/x-ms-application" as mime-type for .application files (or at least for http://www.wowace.com/wau/WowAceUpdater.application)) |
| 10:17.38 | Borked|Coolyo | whats the addon called that makes my standard wow ui to some black thingie ? also the addon that can make a big black background at the bottom of my screen |
| 10:17.48 | Adirelle|work | that's why it may not work, even with IE |
| 10:18.00 | Kaelten | sbi: but what is the value of NumberFormatInfo |
| 10:18.03 | Kaelten | says thats just a type |
| 10:18.12 | Kaelten | ah |
| 10:18.14 | Kaelten | let me fix that |
| 10:18.24 | sbi | new System.Globalization.CultureInfo("en-US") |
| 10:18.34 | sbi | .NumberFormatInfo or something similar |
| 10:19.30 | sbi | .NumberFormat |
| 10:20.07 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: for details => http://blogs.msdn.com/winformsue/archive/2006/01/31/521242.aspx |
| 10:20.48 | Kaelten | sbi: doesn't seem to be working :s |
| 10:21.28 | sbi | Kaelten, sorry to bother, could you paste few lines in a nopaste? |
| 10:22.01 | Borked|Coolyo | does wowace got a addon to make a black background at the bottom of my screen ? |
| 10:23.10 | Kaelten | double val = Double.Parse(m.ToString(), System.Globalization.NumberFormatInfo("en-US")); |
| 10:23.13 | Kaelten | give sme an error |
| 10:23.21 | Kaelten | Error3'System.Globalization.NumberFormatInfo' is a 'type', which is not valid in the given contextC:\Documents and Settings\Kaelten\Desktop\wowaceupdater\trunk\Src\WowAceFilesServer.cs6376WowAceUpdater |
| 10:23.42 | sbi | double val = Double.Parse(m.ToString(), new System.Globalization.NumberFormatInfo("en-US").NumberFormat); |
| 10:24.01 | sbi | can't remember new priority in c# may be: |
| 10:24.09 | sbi | double val = Double.Parse(m.ToString(), (new System.Globalization.NumberFormatInfo("en-US")).NumberFormat); |
| 10:25.16 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 10:25.47 | Kaelten | Adirelle|work: I added that one you said |
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| 10:27.52 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: Firefox now tries to do something (but fails as it downloads it before launching it locally), and IE messes up with its cache >:( |
| 10:28.15 | Adirelle|work | aaah |
| 10:28.30 | Adirelle|work | \o/ victory ! |
| 10:29.02 | Adirelle|work | (well, no WAU fails because there is no WOW on this computer, but at least it installed :D) |
| 10:29.11 | nee|work | Is there anyone here from [EU] Dunemaul (server), high level and Alliance? |
| 10:29.41 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: What did you do? |
| 10:30.05 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: ctrl+F5 to force reload |
| 10:30.35 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: Kaelten set up the right content type for the file, now it is properly recognized by IE |
| 10:31.02 | Kaelten | FF still doesn't like it really |
| 10:31.05 | Kaelten | it downloads it |
| 10:31.09 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 10:31.19 | Adirelle|work | and then it tries to find files in the same directory |
| 10:31.24 | Kaelten | yep |
| 10:31.26 | Kaelten | which don't work |
| 10:31.37 | Adirelle|work | if there were a way to specify were to look for files, it would work with FF too |
| 10:31.39 | Kaelten | but I think nearly every FF user has IETab installed, just about |
| 10:31.40 | nee|work | Opera downloasd it too |
| 10:31.59 | krka | IETab? |
| 10:32.06 | krka | i dont even know what it is, and i use FF all the time |
| 10:32.20 | Adirelle|work | krka: a tweak to use IE display in FF tab |
| 10:32.32 | nee|work | I never heard of it before now either and I used FireFox for a long time |
| 10:32.40 | nee|work | I doubt the majority uses it |
| 10:32.41 | krka | cool, does it use wine or something to launch IE? |
| 10:32.52 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27926 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs: added sacrifice warnings to Terestian Illhoof. |
| 10:32.57 | Adirelle|work | krka: dunno, I'm on windows :) |
| 10:32.58 | nee|work | I doubt it's for linux krka |
| 10:33.06 | nee|work | It's probably just a plugin or addon |
| 10:33.19 | Adirelle|work | right, it's an extension |
| 10:33.34 | Adirelle|work | very valuable for web designer/developper |
| 10:33.53 | Adirelle|work | you can easily switch between IE/FF display of the same page |
| 10:34.35 | nee|work | I did a web site for this company but I never heard of it :P |
| 10:34.42 | nee|work | I just opened browsers separately |
| 10:35.11 | Kaelten | :P |
| 10:35.18 | Kaelten | its still handy as all hell |
| 10:35.26 | nee|work | :) |
| 10:35.36 | Kaelten | the damned locale thing still isn't working right |
| 10:36.59 | Rycochet | it forces an ie frame display instead of the normal gecko rendering engine - basically looks transparent to the user, but requires normal ie installed |
| 10:37.09 | sbi | Kaelten, it does compile now, isn'it? |
| 10:37.15 | Rycochet | in other words, only works on windoze, no other os (not even through wine) |
| 10:37.22 | nadas | Kaelten: Double.Parse("26541.2", new System.Globalization.CultureInfo("en-US").NumberFormat) works for me tho.. |
| 10:38.53 | Kaelten | sbi no it wasn't :s |
| 10:39.00 | Kaelten | hrm that might be it |
| 10:40.42 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27927 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: make sure we return the id from a delayed message for optional cancelling of that schedule |
| 10:42.47 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27928 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs: (Terestian Illhoof) use self:Message |
| 10:47.23 | Kaelten | nadas: I just published the update |
| 10:47.27 | Kaelten | see if it works now |
| 10:47.44 | haste | [Ammo]: http://hastey.pastey.net/6508-15ef << what I gave vhaarr yesterday |
| 10:48.55 | [Ammo] | argh completely disregarding bigwigs coding standards :p |
| 10:49.12 | [Ammo] | I'll see what I can do about incorporating that Haste :) |
| 10:49.49 | nadas | Kaelten: hehe, new bug... :p |
| 10:49.58 | Kaelten | :P |
| 10:50.01 | Kaelten | ? |
| 10:50.09 | haste | Where does it say that it has to follow the other standard :p ? |
| 10:50.12 | nadas | guessing .ToString is at fault now |
| 10:50.16 | nadas | FuBar - Updating to rev 26541,2 |
| 10:50.25 | Kaelten | lol |
| 10:50.35 | nadas | :) |
| 10:50.40 | sbi | Kaelten, you just have to do the same than =) |
| 10:51.27 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: for FF installation problem, you may want to use complete installlation URL, so that the .application file always refers to the website |
| 10:52.06 | Kaelten | that file is auto generated |
| 10:52.33 | Adirelle|work | no parameter in WC ? |
| 10:53.13 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27929 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Curator.lua Maiden.lua Moroes.lua): BigWigs: fix various delayed messages in karazhan |
| 10:53.22 | Adirelle|work | doh, need sleep |
| 10:53.24 | Kaelten | adirelle, not that I've seen :s |
| 10:53.26 | [Ammo] | haste: well I will hammer it into submission if it doesn't :) |
| 10:53.37 | sbi | Kaelten, Double.ToString(theDouble, new System.Globalization.CultureInfo("en-US")); in the case |
| 10:53.39 | Adirelle|work | would this help ? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/c37e68bc(VS.80).aspx |
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| 10:54.45 | sbi | or just theDouble.ToString( new System.Globalization.CultureInfo("en-US")); |
| 10:57.06 | Kaelten | nadas try again |
| 10:57.42 | mitch0 | from cryolysis: Unfortunately, it is no longer possible for the button to conjure the highest Mana Gem that isn't in your inventory, nor will it ever be possible again |
| 10:57.45 | mitch0 | why is that? |
| 10:57.59 | mitch0 | isn't the cast* API locked down only during combat? |
| 10:58.01 | nadas | still getting commas |
| 10:58.17 | Kaelten | ... |
| 11:00.18 | nadas | should work though.. |
| 11:00.33 | nadas | maybe you fiddled with the wrong tostring.. :) |
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| 11:01.33 | *** part/#wowace xordoquy_ (n=xordoquy@87.98.199.194) |
| 11:02.08 | Kaelten | :P |
| 11:02.21 | Kaelten | nadas got another publish comoing to give it a try |
| 11:02.44 | Kaelten | try now |
| 11:03.29 | nadas | still the same :( |
| 11:04.52 | Kaelten | and still not downloading right huh? |
| 11:05.02 | nadas | nope, still comma and error 404 |
| 11:05.06 | Kaelten | problem is that double is going to get parsed into strings multiple places.... |
| 11:05.14 | nadas | i guessed :) |
| 11:05.37 | Kaelten | my solution is, you need to move :P |
| 11:06.04 | nadas | hehe |
| 11:06.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: silly question, is it possible for latest.xml to have an attribute for the current version? |
| 11:06.29 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslek112.osnanet.de) |
| 11:06.45 | nadas | of course you can choose the simple solution.. .Replace(",", ".") in the filename before downloading ;) |
| 11:06.57 | Kaelten | nadas what do you thikn I'm doing now :P |
| 11:06.59 | nadas | though that's nasty and will keep showing commas in the log |
| 11:07.07 | nadas | =) |
| 11:07.23 | sbi | don't do it :p |
| 11:07.26 | sbi | it's EVIL |
| 11:07.41 | nadas | source code available anywhere? |
| 11:07.49 | nadas | ;) |
| 11:08.10 | sbi | i'll better wrap that double in something like CultureNeutralDouble giving toDouble and toString in the interface |
| 11:09.55 | Kaelten | well I just put out another publish, its almost done loading |
| 11:10.43 | sbi | you'll get immediately where that double is used at least :E |
| 11:12.09 | Kaelten | give it a shot now nadas |
| 11:12.45 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro * r27930 10ArkInventory/Locale/frFR.lua: |
| 11:12.45 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 11:12.45 | CIA-17 | - french translation updated |
| 11:13.15 | nadas | Kaelten: heh, will you kill me if i tell you that it still fails? :p |
| 11:13.22 | Kaelten | no |
| 11:13.37 | nadas | ok, it still fails :) |
| 11:13.40 | nadas | same error |
| 11:13.40 | Kaelten | I'll just tell you you're sol until I wake back up tommorow |
| 11:13.49 | nadas | hehe |
| 11:14.46 | *** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=jackson@S01060060083b4430.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 11:14.59 | Jaxon | And 1 voice. |
| 11:15.14 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27931 10BigWigs/ (19 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: clean up a major mess |
| 11:15.35 | sbi | [Ammo], i need that patch for my home |
| 11:15.35 | sbi | gh |
| 11:16.27 | [Ammo] | what? |
| 11:16.38 | sbi | " clean up a major mess" =) |
| 11:16.51 | [Ammo] | someone (I think funkeh) screwed over all of outland and karazhan |
| 11:16.55 | [Ammo] | so I had to clean up a major mess in the code |
| 11:17.06 | sbi | i was just kidding :D |
| 11:17.11 | CIA-17 | 03sylfi * r27932 10PlayerRating/PlayerRatingData.lua: |
| 11:17.11 | CIA-17 | PlayerRating: |
| 11:17.11 | CIA-17 | - Fixed a rating display error. |
| 11:17.14 | sbi | sry |
| 11:17.31 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: did you fix the whirldwinding problems? :D |
| 11:18.16 | [Ammo] | did that during the raid Tal |
| 11:18.27 | Jaxon | Can anyone recommend an addon that lets me assign a player in my party and displays a frame for that player's target? |
| 11:19.21 | sbi | Jaxon, /focus is not enough? :E |
| 11:19.45 | sbi | oh you mean partyXtarget |
| 11:19.59 | Jaxon | Yes. Focus is where I put my MT for my Misdirection macro |
| 11:20.01 | sbi | i think you can do it both with ag_uf and xperl |
| 11:20.21 | Jaxon | I'm using aguf, I didn't know it supported party targets. |
| 11:20.33 | sbi | Jaxon, check it, i'm not sure |
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| 11:20.44 | Jaxon | Then again, I stopped reading up on the wowace forums when the "new post" link stopped going to the newest post for me. |
| 11:21.39 | sbi | i wish there was focus1 focus2 focus3 :( |
| 11:26.45 | |Kev| | Kaelten: ok, I've hacked a somewhat more stable parser for mau, I'll release a new build now. Everyone put down the pitchforks :) |
| 11:27.54 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-138-087.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:28.39 | |Kev| | \o/ |
| 11:29.43 | Rycochet | one of the larps i go to has a @village idiot@ (literally, very good rp) - he's just been accepted for training as a paladin... we're trying to persuade him to get a larp safe scythe ;-P |
| 11:30.50 | wobin | yay patch |
| 11:32.00 | wobin | although |
| 11:32.01 | wobin | at 3M |
| 11:32.08 | wobin | I wonder why they didn't just use the client to download it |
| 11:32.26 | |Kev| | Kaelten: cancel that, I was using the mirror again :) |
| 11:37.31 | Silviu- | wobin what patch ? |
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| 11:38.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Interesting. |
| 11:38.26 | wobin | oh |
| 11:38.30 | wobin | 2.0.7? |
| 11:38.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Apparently they're planning on making a netherdrake a reward from a not-yet-implemented quest chain, and having it be a 310% speed mount |
| 11:38.38 | wobin | the enUS patch that just occurred |
| 11:38.42 | AKX | Pffff |
| 11:38.47 | wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Old news? |
| 11:38.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, probably |
| 11:38.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont check wow forums as much as i ought |
| 11:38.57 | AKX | I see mIRC said "highlight on #wowace", then try to ctrl+f for chatr and akx |
| 11:39.01 | wobin | I recall some discussion about that =) |
| 11:39.06 | AKX | Then I scroll up and see the highlighted lines |
| 11:39.10 | AKX | "lesbian", "lesbian", ... |
| 11:39.11 | AKX | >:| |
| 11:39.16 | sbi | Nickenyfiken, afaik the questline in shadowmoon should give you a nonepic netherdrake, 310% is the arena one |
| 11:39.23 | sbi | i hate nickcompletion |
| 11:39.24 | sbi | :( |
| 11:39.30 | NightHawkTheSane | lol :) |
| 11:39.35 | wobin | AKX .... where in lesbian is 'akx' or 'chatr'? |
| 11:39.42 | NightHawkTheSane | sbi: the quest chain in shadowmoon is not complete :P |
| 11:39.49 | sbi | NightHawkTheSane, yep |
| 11:39.58 | AKX | wobin: nowhere. I have lesbian in my highlights list as well. |
| 11:40.02 | Nickenyfiken | give me netherdrake :-) |
| 11:40.02 | wobin | >< |
| 11:40.12 | wobin | You have noone to blame but yourself =P |
| 11:40.13 | NightHawkTheSane | also, in the post by drysc which is (as noted by wobin) rather old, he says it'll be the same speed as the arena mount |
| 11:40.24 | sbi | NightHawkTheSane, people say should be a must-be-implemented-in-a-non-certain-future-patch-if-devel-are-happy-and-drunk |
| 11:40.24 | AKX | No, I can blame the people who talk about lesbians, wobin! |
| 11:40.34 | sbi | Nickenyfiken, gief |
| 11:40.37 | wobin | we'll call them lesbains from now on in, then |
| 11:40.47 | wobin | They'll go with the rouges |
| 11:43.52 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27933 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: BigWigs: updated Netherspite with info from Haste |
| 11:45.45 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27934 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: BigWigs: use 2 distinct icons for netherspite phases. again haste's idea :p |
| 11:49.53 | Snow|Kenlyric | what a damn stupid day to have a blizzard. |
| 11:50.03 | nee|work | hm. Is anyone bored and want to help me with something er.. exotic? |
| 11:50.12 | Rycochet | does anyone have a blp viewer/converter for osx? |
| 11:50.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Rycochet: graphicconverter? |
| 11:51.23 | Rycochet | just something so i can find the right bits to make my frame from ;-) |
| 11:51.41 | sbi | nee|work, something to do with naked girls and caraibi? :p |
| 11:52.25 | nee|work | sbi: Nope. I am looking for a picture of the Senegal Girl Guiding Uniform. |
| 11:52.38 | sbi | argh! |
| 11:53.05 | nee|work | :) |
| 11:53.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Rycochet: okay, i was wrong, but.. a simple google search turned up http://www.wc3sear.ch/?p=Tools&ID=5 |
| 11:53.17 | |Kev| | Kaelten: is there anything on the server which prevents download except by referer, or such? |
| 11:53.20 | NightHawkTheSane | os x blp/tga converter |
| 11:53.35 | NightHawkTheSane | (and graphic converter CAN open/save tga files) |
| 11:53.53 | Rycochet | heh, all my searches came up with german stuff - which my german still thought said "if you've got a pc use this ..." ;-) |
| 11:54.00 | |Kev| | no, I guess my code's just still broken :/ |
| 11:54.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i just searched for "blp graphic converter", went to the wikipedia link, and found that link from there. :P |
| 11:55.13 | yacoob | hm |
| 11:55.33 | yacoob | according to backlog, does one summon AKX by repeating 'lesbian' three times? |
| 11:55.48 | Pneumatus | did someone say lesbian?! |
| 11:55.56 | yacoob | ("Hastur, Hastur, Hastur. See, nothing happNO CARRIER") |
| 11:56.36 | AKX | Yes, one does. |
| 11:56.36 | Rycochet | well that thing doesn't want to work, maybe as i'm intel, so graphic converter next ;-) |
| 11:57.10 | Snow|Kenlyric | lesbian is a word that becomes less compelling or titillating through constant expsure. |
| 11:58.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Rycochet: hm, could be. :\ |
| 11:58.35 | nadas | Kaelten: still here? |
| 11:59.00 | Snow|Kenlyric | though the thought of summining things with it is fascinating. I will have to try that, but only when I can escape my home |
| 11:59.32 | Rycochet | apparently if you sit in front of a mirror at midnight on halloween and say "bloody mary" 3 times by candlelight... ;-) |
| 11:59.51 | sbi | Rycochet, you get a free drink? |
| 11:59.59 | Rycochet | though how they went from that to beetlegoose |
| 12:00.04 | Rycochet | something like that ;-) |
| 12:00.44 | yacoob | wait, what then? Lesbians are summoned? |
| 12:00.57 | yacoob | or AKX? |
| 12:00.59 | *** join/#wowace wobin_ (n=wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 12:01.03 | Rycochet | well... there were stories about her before she was beheaded... ;-) |
| 12:01.18 | yacoob | this is crucial difference, you know. |
| 12:01.25 | AKX | Indeed. |
| 12:01.40 | AKX | One does not want me with them in front of a mirror at midnight, ESPECIALLY on halloween. |
| 12:02.01 | yacoob | "- I EAT BABIES - Oh, how proud your parents must be" |
| 12:03.15 | wobin_ | "I hear they go well with a mango dipping sauce..." |
| 12:04.04 | yacoob | ...but fails? |
| 12:04.10 | Wobin | I dunno =) |
| 12:04.14 | Wobin | It's copying across as we speak |
| 12:04.31 | Wobin | It failed on the shortcuts etc cause it was expecting a certain directory structure |
| 12:04.40 | Wobin | but so far everything else seems fine |
| 12:04.48 | *** join/#wowace Drool (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 12:04.51 | yacoob | keyword being 'seems' |
| 12:05.21 | Wobin | It's true. |
| 12:05.36 | Wobin | Well I can't say definitively, as it hasn't yet finished installing |
| 12:06.02 | Wobin | well.. here goes =) |
| 12:06.08 | Snow|Kenlyric | man, this would be the perfect day to get my mining up. Why does blizzard curse me thusly? |
| 12:06.43 | sbi | Snow|Kenlyric, wasup? server down? |
| 12:06.49 | Snow|Kenlyric | patch |
| 12:07.02 | Snow|Kenlyric | and very much snow here, so I'm staying home. |
| 12:07.02 | sbi | i need pathnotes then :p |
| 12:07.12 | Snow|Kenlyric | they're in the place they always are. |
| 12:07.30 | Jaxon | Patch.txt in your WoW directory |
| 12:07.44 | yacoob | sure thing it is |
| 12:07.45 | Wobin | oh man |
| 12:07.46 | Snow|Kenlyric | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 12:07.47 | Wobin | it works =) |
| 12:07.54 | sbi | Jaxon, i'm at work, no windows, no cedega, no fun :( |
| 12:07.58 | Rycochet | not to mention i've got 2 characters that use the results ;-P |
| 12:07.59 | yacoob | for example, try mining the road where merchant caravans go |
| 12:08.14 | Snow|Kenlyric | Rycochet: actually, while you're levelling, skinning makes a lot more sense... you kill a LOT more mobs than you find mining nodes. |
| 12:08.25 | Jaxon | sbi: I'm not really surprised that I find a large number of cedega users at wowace |
| 12:08.34 | Snow|Kenlyric | but I hit 70 and finished all the solo quests, so I switched skinning to mining (already have herbalism) |
| 12:08.36 | Jaxon | By large, I mean more than I've found in any other location. |
| 12:08.44 | Rycochet | Snow|Kenlyric: yeah - was my lvl 40 that i did it on, not short of money any more though, so now using the skills for money instead |
| 12:09.00 | sbi | Jaxon, i'm using windows to play wow btw :) |
| 12:09.15 | Jaxon | Gross. |
| 12:09.16 | sbi | Jaxon, i was just pointing to the fact i can't play wow while working :) |
| 12:09.36 | Snow|Kenlyric | man, I couldn't work without playing something. |
| 12:10.20 | Wobin | aiee |
| 12:10.23 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 12:10.32 | Wobin | third wall shattered! |
| 12:10.52 | *** join/#wowace Gastro (n=Gastro@HSI-KBW-091-089-049-012.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 12:10.53 | Wobin | "Greetings young one! I am here to help you understand the basic commands of the game!" |
| 12:11.03 | Rycochet | lol |
| 12:11.09 | *** join/#wowace joh (n=joh@pat-wlan-gsw.ntnu.no) |
| 12:11.19 | Snow|Kenlyric | ug, my brain can't place that, but it's terribly familiar. |
| 12:11.35 | Wobin | I just installed Keepsake |
| 12:11.38 | Rycochet | i've played several that did it - always bugs me |
| 12:12.19 | Wobin | This guy's voice is so irritating =P |
| 12:12.53 | Wobin | I think it's cause the accent is so irregular =P |
| 12:12.54 | Snow|Kenlyric | I really should finish HL2 Episode 1. And of course I just got into hillbilly country on san andreas. |
| 12:13.02 | Snow|Kenlyric | but neither one of those play well in windowed mode. |
| 12:13.30 | Wobin | It's like.. semi Italian-Romany |
| 12:13.46 | sbi | i'm italian! |
| 12:14.04 | Snow|Kenlyric | so, has anyone figured out the logic behind BOE bags? |
| 12:14.29 | Wobin | sbi: And I'm sure you've -never- heard an accent like this =P |
| 12:14.39 | sbi | true =) |
| 12:14.56 | sbi | Wobin, we have better defects than this one :p |
| 12:15.00 | Wobin | It's like someone heard an italian say a few words and thought, "Wow, those russians sound cool" |
| 12:15.09 | sbi | lol :D |
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| 12:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: ping? |
| 12:15.46 | *** join/#wowace kovi (i=kov@p5081DF15.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:15.54 | Snow|Kenlyric | I imagine you could find such people in the world, given the travelling the romany do. |
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| 12:18.03 | Myrathi | Mornin' peeps. |
| 12:18.03 | Snow|Kenlyric | "The aggro range for players when under the effect of "Incite Chaos" while fighting Blackheart the Inciter in the Shadow Labrynth has been adjusted." - anyone have a clue what this could mean? |
| 12:18.03 | Snow|Kenlyric | can you run out of his aggro range while controlled? or do they mean the other mobs in the room? |
| 12:18.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Snow|Kenlyric: i'm assuming the latter |
| 12:18.04 | evl | Does Windfury overwrite poisons when it procs? |
| 12:18.04 | nee|work | I doubt it |
| 12:18.15 | nee|work | As you can get multiple poisons from mobs |
| 12:18.15 | Myrathi | evl: Not last time I checked. |
| 12:18.15 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: no, if your main hand is poisoned, you will not get WF |
| 12:18.29 | evl | How can I detect windfury, is it run as a buff or directly on the weapon? |
| 12:18.38 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a weapon buff |
| 12:18.39 | Adirelle|work | have to find a way to fix Carto module ordering :/ |
| 12:18.39 | Myrathi | weapon-buff. |
| 12:18.49 | Adirelle|work | s/ordering/load ordering/ |
| 12:18.50 | evl | So I'd have to scan my main-hands weapon tooltip? |
| 12:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: yes, but that'd only work if your main hand didnt have a temp weapon enchant (poisons) already, in which case WF wouldn't even show up |
| 12:19.20 | Myrathi | That would've been a "directly on the weapon" answer. =P |
| 12:19.51 | Myrathi | It shows up in your buff list. |
| 12:20.04 | evl | I've made an addon that tracks and alerts when my poisons run out but it triggers on windfury making it quite spammy :) |
| 12:21.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 12:21.33 | evl | So GetPlayerBuff will show windfury if it's running? |
| 12:21.47 | NightHawkTheSane | couldn't you just have it perform a check when it's about to alert you if the buff is windfury? |
| 12:21.47 | Snow|Kenlyric | hot, they fixed that annoying channel bug. |
| 12:21.57 | evl | not so hot: Vanish is still broken :D |
| 12:21.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Snow|Kenlyric: yeah, that made my freaking day :) |
| 12:22.12 | Snow|Kenlyric | meh, rogues. |
| 12:22.13 | NightHawkTheSane | vanish has been broken since they IMPLEMENTED it :P |
| 12:22.21 | Adirelle|work | not so hot: pets will still run on ground when you're on your flying mount :s |
| 12:22.31 | Wobin | broken? |
| 12:22.34 | Snow|Kenlyric | good, you can't kill me by vanishing after I heal you. |
| 12:22.38 | Snow|Kenlyric | damn dirty hunters. |
| 12:22.51 | Snow|Kenlyric | Adirelle|work: that's *hilarious*! I love that! |
| 12:22.59 | sylvanaar | what is going on this am? |
| 12:23.01 | evl | NightHawkTheSane: I was planning on writing a HasWindFury that silences the alert if that's applied |
| 12:23.10 | Snow|Kenlyric | I had a pet for a quest in shadowmoon... it was so fun run him around. |
| 12:23.15 | Adirelle|work | Snow|Kenlyric: now I just fly strait up until the pet disappear... |
| 12:23.38 | Myrathi | evil: You should be able to catch it via the PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED event but.. why not just keep a list of poisons? Pretty sure there exists such a thing in PT. |
| 12:23.41 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: It'll be fixed in 2.0.7 though |
| 12:24.03 | Adirelle|work | Snow|Kenlyric: sometimes the pet gets "teleported" at your level, then falls on ground again... it doesn't even hurt it |
| 12:24.12 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: sure ? it ain't on the patch noter |
| 12:24.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Adirelle|work: yeah, ive seen that with warlocks, the imp will teleport up to them and then fall. amuses me :) |
| 12:24.47 | sylvanaar | what is this 2nd version of WAU? |
| 12:24.49 | Adirelle|work | well, that's funny, until your pet aggro half the world... |
| 12:24.50 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27935 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: empty Nightbane module |
| 12:25.13 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: Kaelten played a bit with it |
| 12:25.13 | Myrathi | Adirelle: Quote from PTR notes: "Players with multiple chat windows will no longer have fixed channels (ie. general, trade) added back to the main chat window every time they log on." |
| 12:25.38 | Industrial | Myrathi: do they also fix the returning chat tabs? |
| 12:25.47 | Industrial | Myrathi: and the disappearing chat windows/tabs? |
| 12:25.48 | Adirelle|work | Myrathi: was talking about flying mounts and not flying pets |
| 12:25.53 | sylvanaar | so what does it do? |
| 12:25.56 | Snow|Kenlyric | playing my warlock a bit yesterday, it seemed that my pets were kinda laggy. |
| 12:26.18 | Myrathi | Industrial: Probably not - that would suggest competency. ;P |
| 12:26.21 | Myrathi | Adirelle: Oh. :) |
| 12:26.28 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: It's in the 2.0.7 PTR though |
| 12:26.30 | Snow|Kenlyric | like, just running and the ground they would fall behind, and they would take a split second longer to fire off abilities, and would port around in strange ways. But I had no such kind of lag myself. |
| 12:26.43 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: dunno, except he managed to have a "ClickOnce" installer |
| 12:26.56 | Industrial | Myrathi: ke ke |
| 12:27.02 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: but that wasn't the point |
| 12:27.17 | sylvanaar | yeah, he can do that because he has the passwords to the server |
| 12:27.47 | Snow|Kenlyric | so, if they fixed the fel reaver, did they also fix the temple of light and goc? |
| 12:27.52 | Pneumatus | are there patch notes for .7 up somewhere? |
| 12:28.11 | phyber | PTR notes are up |
| 12:28.12 | sbi | Snow|Kenlyric, obv not, i hate that temple of light bug :E |
| 12:28.14 | sylvanaar | so, does the regular wau work? |
| 12:28.20 | Industrial | sylvanaar: bump #wau |
| 12:28.28 | Snow|Kenlyric | sbi: I don't. I gave up that quest a long time ago :) |
| 12:28.31 | Wobin | oh man |
| 12:28.38 | sbi | Snow|Kenlyric, i need rep :p |
| 12:28.43 | Wobin | slavic grammar with italian accent |
| 12:28.43 | Snow|Kenlyric | good point. |
| 12:28.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Snow|Kenlyric: bah, i could still use the trinket from that quest >< |
| 12:29.16 | Snow|Kenlyric | Wobin: not so strange, really. Uncommon, but not impossible |
| 12:29.30 | Myrathi | Pneumatus: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 12:29.37 | todd | - Players can no longer send gift wrapped packages via COD. |
| 12:29.46 | sbi | ahah |
| 12:29.52 | sbi | that's a great feature :D |
| 12:29.58 | Myrathi | - So that naive fuckwits aren't caught out by simplistic scams. |
| 12:29.58 | todd | - When sharing a quest, the order logic has changed to check whether |
| 12:29.58 | todd | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.58 | todd | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.00 | todd | woo |
| 12:30.27 | Wobin | Snow|Kenlyric: It'd be more acceptable if the voice actor wasn't sounding like he was reading from a slow teleprompter =P |
| 12:31.21 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: oki thx |
| 12:31.32 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: :) |
| 12:32.22 | Adirelle|work | Wobin: back to a odd question : suppose Carto Notes and Mining are both LoD and enabled in Carto, atm Mining has NO announced dependency on Notes, in which order will them get loaded by the Carto LoD stub ? |
| 12:32.30 | Adirelle|work | -odd +old |
| 12:32.51 | Snow|Kenlyric | todd: that's pretty awesome. People should have to clear quests off just to check if they've completed one. |
| 12:32.58 | todd | yeah |
| 12:32.59 | Adirelle|work | and what will happen if Mining is loaded before Notes ? |
| 12:33.06 | Wobin | shouldn't you mean? |
| 12:33.06 | todd | - The items required to complete the Karazhan key quest can now only be looted by the first group in the instance to reach them. |
| 12:34.12 | Snow|Kenlyric | todd: heh... pwned. Glad I got to ninja mine. Now I can do those isntances at my leisure while I beg for spots in karazkan runs. |
| 12:34.17 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27936 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Azuregos.lua: BigWigs (azuregos): typo fix |
| 12:34.28 | Snow|Kenlyric | well, that instance... black morass is the only one I got for free. |
| 12:34.38 | todd | haha same |
| 12:35.17 | mitch0 | anyone knows if hit chance is maximized before the binary spell multiplier is applied, or after? |
| 12:35.49 | Adirelle|work | Wobin: any clue ? |
| 12:35.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Snow|Kenlyric: cause the kara key chain is so extraordinarily painful and difficult to do ;) |
| 12:36.06 | Wobin | Adirelle|work: No =\ |
| 12:36.14 | Adirelle|work | Wobin: big mess... |
| 12:36.18 | Wobin | I guess why not make them LoD? |
| 12:36.29 | Lysithea | Anyone here using bindpad? I cant get it to bind macros correctly |
| 12:36.51 | Lysithea | it "jumps" between macros somehow |
| 12:36.54 | Adirelle|work | Wobin: you meant why make them LoD ? |
| 12:37.44 | Adirelle|work | in fact, the complexity is introduced by the fact that Notes can either be embedded in Carto or a standalone LoD module |
| 12:37.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Lysithea: Spellbinder :) |
| 12:37.53 | Wobin | er |
| 12:37.57 | Wobin | dependancies |
| 12:37.58 | Adirelle|work | so we aren't allowed to put it as a dependency of Mining |
| 12:38.13 | Lysithea | NightHawkTheSane I'll look into it, ty |
| 12:38.49 | sylvanaar | why not use optdepts? |
| 12:39.01 | Adirelle|work | well, Notes should be a *required* dependancy of Mining |
| 12:39.11 | Adirelle|work | i.e. no Notes => no Mining |
| 12:39.32 | [Ammo] | running the carto core modules LoD is silly |
| 12:39.36 | [Ammo] | I said so from the start |
| 12:39.36 | mitch0 | I mean, if I have a base hit chance of 90% and the target has 50% frost resist, I'd have 45% to land a frostbolt with 0 +hit. now, if I have +20% to hit, will my chance be (0.99*0.45) or 1.1*0.45 ? |
| 12:39.40 | [Ammo] | and was proven right :) |
| 12:39.51 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: I totally agree, just for this point |
| 12:39.59 | sylvanaar | he made it LoD i think to shut people up |
| 12:40.12 | [Ammo] | you can fix it by adding a OptDep Cartographer_Notes to mining |
| 12:40.23 | Adirelle|work | the fact is that LoD and dependancy doesn't play well together |
| 12:40.34 | [Ammo] | they play well together if you use optdep |
| 12:40.42 | Adirelle|work | well.. why not, but what will happen ? |
| 12:40.46 | [Ammo] | that way it will work when you run it non-lod and will work when you run it lod |
| 12:40.47 | sylvanaar | yeah, whats wrong with optdep |
| 12:40.52 | Adirelle|work | suppose that Mining get loaded before Notes |
| 12:40.58 | [Ammo] | it won't |
| 12:41.01 | Adirelle|work | why ? |
| 12:41.04 | [Ammo] | because it has an opt-dep on notes |
| 12:41.16 | [Ammo] | which means it will get loaded after notes if notes is avialable |
| 12:41.16 | Adirelle|work | okay |
| 12:41.25 | Adirelle|work | so optdep will prevent mining for loading |
| 12:41.33 | [Ammo] | no it won't |
| 12:41.33 | sylvanaar | no |
| 12:41.40 | Adirelle|work | wait |
| 12:42.07 | [Ammo] | mining will only load _after_ notes if notes is present |
| 12:42.13 | sylvanaar | it just provides a load order hint |
| 12:42.18 | [Ammo] | if notes isn't present it's probably inside the carto stuff |
| 12:42.26 | [Ammo] | and mining has a dependancy on carto already |
| 12:42.28 | Adirelle|work | look at how LoD module are loaded by Carto : http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Cartographer/Cartographer.lua?order=name#L752 |
| 12:42.34 | Myrathi | Ahhh. Love it. Friend whining about strange browser behaviour and stuff. And bit my head off when I said they probably had a trojan, virus, both or more. Said "they're always careful and couldn't ever get one of those". |
| 12:42.39 | [Ammo] | if you completely don't have notes then you're screwed over |
| 12:42.43 | Myrathi | One free online Panda virusscan later: 10 viruses, defected.. |
| 12:42.43 | Myrathi | 27 spyware |
| 12:42.44 | Myrathi | 12 hacking tool |
| 12:42.53 | Myrathi | Hah. |
| 12:43.04 | Myrathi | detected*, even. Stupid paste. |
| 12:43.15 | [Ammo] | I love how bigwigs uses events so if you don't have a bars module it'll still work :p |
| 12:43.31 | Myrathi | BigWigs is woot. |
| 12:43.38 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo], sylvanaar: do you catch the point ? |
| 12:43.55 | Myrathi | CTBossthingie can rot somewhere. Spammy crap. |
| 12:44.20 | [Ammo] | Adirelle|work: no I don't, pasting a whole file won't woork for me |
| 12:44.45 | [Ammo] | but the solution is: don't use the stoopid lod thing in carto |
| 12:44.54 | [Ammo] | or use the opt-dep |
| 12:45.11 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: okay, reading the code: LoadLoadOnDemandModules is called only once, it looks at each LoD addon that depends on "Cartographer" and have the right TOC entries |
| 12:45.46 | [Ammo] | that's why bigwigs is smarter :p |
| 12:45.52 | [Ammo] | look at LoadOnDemand.lua in bigwigs |
| 12:45.52 | Adirelle|work | if it find one taht can be loaded and it is enabled, it ask for loading it |
| 12:45.57 | [Ammo] | it also loads depenancies :) |
| 12:46.07 | Adirelle|work | er... |
| 12:46.09 | Adirelle|work | wait |
| 12:46.13 | [Ammo] | patch carto I suggest |
| 12:46.35 | Myrathi | Adirelle: If you attempt to LoD a module and it has dependencies that aren't loaded yet, the framework will load the deps first. |
| 12:46.46 | Adirelle|work | Myrathi: Blizzard one ? |
| 12:46.51 | Myrathi | Yeah. |
| 12:46.56 | sylvanaar | there should be just one loader imo, needs to be its own entity |
| 12:47.00 | Adirelle|work | damn... so that work |
| 12:47.00 | Myrathi | Kinda the point of LoD :p |
| 12:47.09 | Adirelle|work | should* |
| 12:47.13 | Adirelle|work | can't get it |
| 12:47.33 | Myrathi | At least, it worked that way last time I specifically checked it. |
| 12:47.38 | [Ammo] | but not the OptDeps |
| 12:47.39 | Adirelle|work | I have complaints about Quests not loading, it has Notes as optdep, but Mining and Herbo doesn't have |
| 12:48.00 | [Ammo] | bigwigs has it's own LoadBigWigsAddon |
| 12:48.03 | Adirelle|work | I almost sure it is related to that LoD thing |
| 12:48.16 | [Ammo] | which also loads optdeps |
| 12:48.18 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: I'll take a look |
| 12:48.28 | [Ammo] | it's in LoadOnDemand.lua t |
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| 12:49.04 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] you arent reading optdepts though are you? i'll look |
| 12:49.16 | Punkie` | btw, would you guys suggest to use cartographer as LoD as well as babble-2.2? |
| 12:49.39 | Adirelle|work | Punkie`: Carto => no way :) |
| 12:49.40 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: babble should be save |
| 12:49.43 | [Ammo] | carto I suggest not |
| 12:49.52 | [Ammo] | safe even |
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| 12:50.06 | Punkie` | whats wrong with LoD carto? |
| 12:50.17 | Adirelle|work | Punkie`: it's not safe atm |
| 12:50.19 | [Ammo] | it wasn't thought out properly |
| 12:50.45 | Punkie` | i'll just stick with BW and oRA2 |
| 12:50.52 | [Ammo] | Babble-2.2 should be safe |
| 12:50.53 | Myrathi | Urf. I somehow managed to miss that y'all were talking about *opt* deps. |
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| 12:51.10 | Punkie` | ok |
| 12:51.14 | [Ammo] | but... |
| 12:51.20 | [Ammo] | some addons don't use proper optdeps for babble :) |
| 12:51.29 | [Ammo] | so you might run into the same problems :) |
| 12:51.38 | [Ammo] | depending on the addons you use |
| 12:51.43 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: doesn't AceLibrary take care of that ? |
| 12:51.49 | [Ammo] | it should |
| 12:51.58 | [Ammo] | and it will |
| 12:52.00 | [Ammo] | I guess |
| 12:52.24 | Adirelle|work | if the LoD TOC are correctly filled, it should |
| 12:52.37 | Adirelle|work | (btw, I'm using most libs LoD and they correctly load) |
| 12:53.04 | Adirelle|work | (please excuse my crappy english) |
| 12:54.00 | Punkie` | my addons folder now looks like crap :P |
| 12:54.44 | Snow|Kenlyric | so many addon folders... |
| 12:54.57 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: er... GetAddOnDependencies doesn't talk about optdeps :s |
| 12:54.59 | Punkie` | i have 138 O.O |
| 12:55.35 | [Ammo] | then I guess you're fuxored :) |
| 12:55.38 | [Ammo] | I thought it did |
| 12:55.49 | Adirelle|work | not according to wowwiki |
| 12:55.53 | Adirelle|work | may need a little test |
| 12:55.57 | Snow|Kenlyric | does blizz reload all addons every time you zone? |
| 12:55.58 | [Ammo] | well I know we added it to bigwigs for a reason |
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| 12:56.03 | [Ammo] | but sometimes I forget the reason |
| 12:56.07 | Adirelle|work | :D |
| 12:56.18 | [Ammo] | usually a short discussion with rabbit sorts it out |
| 12:56.26 | Punkie` | haste, alive around here? :> |
| 12:56.33 | Snow|Kenlyric | I've been disconnecting an uncomfortable amount of time when I zone... sometimes also when I land in shattrath. |
| 12:56.56 | Punkie` | i had that problem, i got disconnected jsut randomly too |
| 12:57.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Snow|Kenlyric: that happens to me too |
| 12:57.07 | Punkie` | deleted carto_noteshare, now i havent disconnected since |
| 12:57.16 | haste | Punkie`: yes |
| 12:57.19 | Snow|Kenlyric | I know my machine needs more ram, but this wasn't a problem in 2.0 pre TBC |
| 12:57.34 | Snow|Kenlyric | so I'm thinking I have too many mods or something. |
| 12:57.54 | Tupsi | so tune the mods down or buy more ram |
| 12:58.10 | Snow|Kenlyric | or figure out which mod is being a bitch. |
| 12:58.16 | Snow|Kenlyric | (I suspect KC Items :) |
| 12:58.42 | Myrathi | I gave up trying to use KCI. Fubar's the tooltips something horrid. |
| 12:58.46 | Tupsi | might be, i stoped using itemdb addons of any kind a long time ago |
| 12:58.53 | Myrathi | Then again, TinyTip doesn't do much better. :\ |
| 12:59.01 | Myrathi | And tinytip rocks =( |
| 12:59.20 | Punkie` | haste, when you finally get around to releasing oUF again, will it be possible to change the side where the values are (around the health bars i mean) ? |
| 12:59.21 | Tupsi | because i ended up only collecting and never looking up anyway |
| 12:59.24 | Myrathi | Top half of the screen - works perfectly. |
| 12:59.43 | Snow|Kenlyric | haven't noticed it doing anything strange. Except when I try to paste a quest name into chat, and it thinks its an item to complete. (And also, how item completion doesn't actually work at all) |
| 12:59.43 | Myrathi | Bottom half of the screen - all sorts of misalignment nonsense. |
| 13:00.03 | haste | Punkie`: no idea :) |
| 13:00.09 | Myrathi | Snow: GFW Linkerator works great for that. :) |
| 13:00.23 | Punkie` | haste: !! - that's totally needed! |
| 13:00.51 | haste | Punkie`: oUF isn't really what I'm working on |
| 13:00.59 | Adirelle|work | can't get any clue about loadaddon mechanisms (does it load required nor opt deps...) |
| 13:01.03 | kenlyric | Myrathi: but I don't consider it a necessary mod, so I won't go outside of wau for it because I"m lazy :) |
| 13:01.39 | Adirelle|work | "Text search temporarily disabled" fine... |
| 13:01.42 | Punkie` | haste: okay, but as soon as I can get that little movement thing on the chatboxes i will probably hide my action bars :) |
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| 13:04.23 | Myrathi | Temporarily my arse. |
| 13:04.43 | Myrathi | I can't remember the last time that worked. |
| 13:04.52 | Adirelle|work | finally caught this : http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Code_Load_Order#Load-On-Demand_AddOns |
| 13:04.57 | Adirelle|work | so it *should* work... |
| 13:04.59 | Adirelle|work | damn |
| 13:04.59 | sbi | Myrathi, it temporarily worked =) |
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| 13:06.59 | Adirelle|work | (and BW shouldn't need it's LoadBigWigAddon unless something doesn't WAI) |
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| 13:08.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+v GoogleSearch] by ChanServ |
| 13:08.41 | GoogleSearch | Heya ;) |
| 13:10.20 | Adirelle|work | seems I'm gonna do some testing... |
| 13:10.27 | Industrial | GoogleSearch: ?? |
| 13:10.40 | Industrial | who are you :p |
| 13:10.48 | GoogleSearch | Raaaa |
| 13:10.51 | GoogleSearch | ~GoogleSearch |
| 13:11.01 | purl | [googlesearch] a Google Search Bot. Type !googlehelp to display commands. |
| 13:11.21 | Myrathi | !googlehelp |
| 13:11.30 | xyu` | oo a patc h |
| 13:11.32 | xyu` | what's it do! |
| 13:11.35 | Myrathi | Oooh, neat. |
| 13:11.40 | NightHawkTheSane | whee. fixed my update script to use latest.xml AND handle the new minor versions properly |
| 13:11.51 | NightHawkTheSane | well.. maybe not "properly", but at least not poorly. |
| 13:13.03 | Myrathi | Heh. Googlebub doesn't handle commands via query. =p |
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| 13:13.27 | GoogleSearch | Nope you should try to do this directly on the chat ;p |
| 13:13.44 | Myrathi | That's intrusive to others. Should handle it in query too. :) |
| 13:13.54 | GoogleSearch | That's not false :p |
| 13:13.59 | Myrathi | :D |
| 13:14.15 | Myrathi | Still... looks like some cool features. |
| 13:14.23 | sbi | well if you need to search something just for yourself... use the browser,luke =) |
| 13:14.27 | Punkie` | !googlehelp |
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| 13:14.51 | Myrathi | sbi: Usually do - I have various quicksearches set up for exactly that :P |
| 13:15.07 | Punkie` | okay, lets try it |
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| 13:15.15 | Myrathi | !api UnitName |
| 13:15.18 | Punkie` | !google boobies |
| 13:15.20 | pb_ee1 | Hum, better with this name :p |
| 13:15.25 | pb_ee1 | !google test |
| 13:15.31 | xyu` | why did they suddenly make bags BoP anyway. i really liked being able to give my old bags to alts :( |
| 13:15.33 | pb_ee1 | yay it works ;) |
| 13:15.41 | Punkie` | omg! 13:15GoogleSearchRate My Boobies ( http://www.ratemyboobies.com/ ) |
| 13:15.45 | Punkie` | hooray! |
| 13:15.50 | sbi | xyu`, same here :E |
| 13:15.52 | Myrathi | lol |
| 13:16.03 | kenlyric | xyu`: boe, but yeah, it's still annoying. |
| 13:16.09 | Myrathi | It's life, Jim, but not as we know it. :P |
| 13:16.14 | sbi | Punkie`, ROFL |
| 13:16.23 | sbi | Punkie`, 4/10 btw |
| 13:16.23 | sbi | =) |
| 13:16.24 | xyu` | boe? no they made them BoP |
| 13:16.25 | pb_ee1 | yeah you can really search everything with the B0t :) |
| 13:16.31 | Punkie` | :( |
| 13:16.44 | xyu` | oh |
| 13:16.48 | xyu` | yeah they did boe |
| 13:17.02 | xyu` | anyway you're right still sucks :P |
| 13:17.06 | NightHawkTheSane | bop would suck worse. |
| 13:17.13 | xyu` | yeah |
| 13:17.13 | NightHawkTheSane | "want bags? be a tailor." >< |
| 13:17.30 | kenlyric | it would suck more for tailors. |
| 13:17.40 | Punkie` | Anyone watched that 'Loose Change' vid? |
| 13:17.42 | kenlyric | what the hell else can they sell? |
| 13:17.44 | xyu` | yeah bags are about the only usefull thing they can sell |
| 13:17.51 | sbi | Punkie`, what's about? |
| 13:17.55 | Punkie` | 9/11 |
| 13:18.03 | xyu` | bags don't even sell for much |
| 13:18.08 | xyu` | they always come out w/ some equivalent |
| 13:18.09 | xyu` | drop |
| 13:18.10 | xyu` | that gets farmed |
| 13:18.20 | pb_ee1 | we still can sell... erm... primal mooncloth/spellcloth/shadowcloth |
| 13:18.22 | pb_ee1 | (yay) |
| 13:18.25 | xyu` | i love the enter button i really do |
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| 13:18.55 | sbi | pb_ee1, actually in my server, everybody went shadowclothier, mooncloth/spellcloth sells for... nothing |
| 13:19.07 | pb_ee1 | ho? what do you mean sbi? |
| 13:19.22 | kenlyric | a crafting profession will rarely result in a goldmine.. the market is too fickle. |
| 13:19.25 | sbi | pb_ee1, i mean, there is no market for mooncloth/spellcloth in my server |
| 13:19.33 | Punkie` | pb_ee1 : type, !google nothing |
| 13:19.34 | kenlyric | gathering professions are always profit. |
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| 13:20.23 | xyu` | i only do professions once i level cap |
| 13:20.29 | xyu` | i don't touch it while leveling heh |
| 13:20.36 | Punkie` | gathering whilst levelling is quite easy |
| 13:20.45 | Maxemus | hey guys |
| 13:20.46 | Punkie` | in fact more easy than if you cap |
| 13:20.47 | jjb_ | whats the price for primial might on your server? |
| 13:20.47 | xyu` | not for me. i level too fast |
| 13:20.53 | xyu` | i out level my skill |
| 13:20.57 | sbi | jjb_, 95g actually |
| 13:21.04 | kenlyric | gathering at max level is easy too... well, mining/herbalism. |
| 13:21.12 | kenlyric | swoop down, ninja it from the lowbie 63, fly back up! |
| 13:21.16 | pb_ee1 | !google nothing |
| 13:21.19 | Punkie` | herbalism rocks atm |
| 13:21.28 | pb_ee1 | Punkie`: lol |
| 13:21.29 | sbi | yep .p herb is a nice choice |
| 13:21.34 | Punkie` | those fel blossom's and nightmare seeds are great |
| 13:21.36 | xyu` | enchanting as well. seems like every damn profession in this game |
| 13:21.40 | xyu` | requiers d/e'd items |
| 13:21.56 | pb_ee1 | sbi: I see, too bad for me :'( |
| 13:21.59 | xyu` | and there was about a million greens i could have D/ed |
| 13:22.00 | kenlyric | I would possibly pick up alchemy when I start hardcore raiding, just so I don't have to rely on others to make my potions... but meh, professions for cash just never seem to work out. |
| 13:22.01 | Maxemus | any JC's using gemlist? |
| 13:22.22 | pb_ee1 | Question: is there an AddOn that lets you follow where is this bloody Prayer of Mending on your party/raid mates? |
| 13:22.23 | xyu` | i'm too lazy for it to work out. |
| 13:22.31 | xyu` | the whole idea of scouting the auctino house for a half hour every day |
| 13:22.33 | xyu` | bores me |
| 13:22.34 | sbi | elixir > transmute imho |
| 13:23.33 | pb_ee1 | Question 2: Is there an AddOn that lets you see *all* the buffs of a party mate (under its frame), kind of the same way that CT_Mod does? |
| 13:23.42 | kenlyric | dunno... seems like in my experience you make potions far more than elixirs. |
| 13:23.53 | kenlyric | ok, maybe just as a priest I do :) |
| 13:24.14 | sbi | kenlyric, you drink mana pots like nuts i suppose :p |
| 13:24.23 | Punkie` | well if prot pots are going to be needed as much as they used too, potion spec will be good |
| 13:24.28 | Punkie` | considering they all need primals |
| 13:24.49 | kenlyric | well, towards the end of pre tbc raiding I didn't... but my mana conservation is all out of whack right now, so I guzzle them |
| 13:25.08 | sbi | i usually use far more elixir than pots as a mage, and i suppose same thing goes for melee |
| 13:25.21 | kenlyric | actually, I guzzle healing potions because those drop like candy. |
| 13:25.55 | sbi | Me smash undead! Haarrrrr! |
| 13:26.08 | kenlyric | you know... prayer of mending is an awesome spell when you're trying to run away. |
| 13:26.39 | sbi | well hopefully you don't have to flee that much :p |
| 13:27.33 | neenee | kenlyric: But it doesn't bounce on the same target over and over :| |
| 13:27.41 | kenlyric | they do some mighty odd things with mob pathing in shadowmoon. |
| 13:27.53 | kenlyric | neenee... that would be completely overpowered :) |
| 13:27.58 | kenlyric | I would like it |
| 13:28.14 | neenee | ;) |
| 13:29.06 | kenlyric | ug, I want to play! |
| 13:30.31 | kenlyric | I did find it kinda awesome when running with a partner.. as long as we each had our own target to hit us. bounce bounce bounce |
| 13:32.11 | pb_ee1 | Do you advice using GridStatusHots or GridStatusHotStack? |
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| 13:32.28 | sbi | "no more play?!" |
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| 13:33.16 | kenlyric | you no take candle! |
| 13:33.31 | kenlyric | ug, the next grand theft auto better have a windowed mode option. |
| 13:40.50 | sylvanaar | the version numbers in latest.txt dont match the no-ext zips |
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| 13:41.44 | sylvanaar | ie, http://files.wowace.com//FuBar_BagFu/no-ext/FuBar_BagFu-r26541.2.zip should be there, but isnt |
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| 14:02.00 | Thorgard | ~framexml |
| 14:02.07 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 14:03.23 | Thorgard | ..meh.. corrupt file! |
| 14:03.32 | sbi | my job makes me sick |
| 14:03.37 | sbi | i want to quit :( |
| 14:03.52 | Thorgard | sbi, what do you do? |
| 14:04.08 | sbi | Thorgard, prostitution, something similar |
| 14:04.19 | Thorgard | I used to do that. |
| 14:04.28 | sbi | Thorgard, analyst/devel or should i say anal/dev |
| 14:04.28 | Thorgard | Then I got promoted. |
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| 14:05.23 | krka | hm, i wrote my own little deformat.. anyone want to take a look and point out all the bugs / cases i missed? |
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| 14:14.57 | [Ammo] | krka: what's wrong with the current Deformat |
| 14:16.15 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27937 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: BigWigs: added fight comments to nightbane |
| 14:20.00 | Health | I never noticed any bigwig warnings at aran.. I might be blind |
| 14:21.05 | [Ammo] | health: there has been a lot of work on Aran and other karazhan bosses in last few days |
| 14:21.13 | [Ammo] | so might be they were not in when you tried |
| 14:21.15 | Health | Great |
| 14:21.24 | Health | I'll test it tonight |
| 14:22.19 | krka | [Ammo]: no idea, i have never used it |
| 14:22.28 | krka | just found the problem to be an interesting one |
| 14:22.54 | Health | Paste it in the channel! |
| 14:23.01 | Health | *giggle* |
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| 14:27.58 | krka | early testing shows that my version is faster, but i have no idea if it's correct :) |
| 14:31.08 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27938 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: BigWigs: add belowing roar bar and warnings to Nightbane |
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| 14:47.02 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r27939 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc): |
| 14:47.03 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 14:47.03 | CIA-17 | -Fixed an error in ignite damage calculation. |
| 14:47.39 | chutwig | foom |
| 14:51.10 | sbi | who remembers the time where improved scorch was putting a dot? |
| 14:51.24 | sbi | *sigh* |
| 14:52.05 | CIA-17 | 03pb_ee1 * r27940 10ChatLog/ (. ChatLog.lua ChatLog.toc): |
| 14:52.05 | CIA-17 | ChatLog: Updating externals & Code. |
| 14:52.05 | CIA-17 | - Now using AceDB-2.0. |
| 14:52.05 | CIA-17 | - Updating to this release will clear all your logs. |
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| 14:57.44 | Amadeo | I had no idea LoTRO was so popular that an interface site was made for it |
| 14:57.51 | Amadeo | I played the beta and thought it was kinda lame |
| 14:58.28 | deltron | anything for a buck |
| 14:58.29 | deltron | i'm sure |
| 14:59.20 | Amadeo | Well I'm hoping it ends up being a good game, Blizzard needs competition |
| 14:59.43 | Amadeo | Without competition, they'll do as they please |
| 14:59.53 | deltron | i was really dissapointed with dnd online |
| 15:01.05 | Amadeo | I have faith in Warhammer Online |
| 15:01.07 | Amadeo | I hope |
| 15:01.08 | Amadeo | :P |
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| 15:01.23 | deltron | hah |
| 15:01.28 | deltron | it looks really good |
| 15:01.33 | deltron | and the trailer is superb |
| 15:01.56 | Amadeo | I really enjoyed DAoC, and I hope they've learned some stuff from watching WoW |
| 15:02.03 | ilifin | |Kev| - nice to hear you're updating it, when can I expect to get a new version? |
| 15:02.12 | deltron | DAoC was fun as far as pvp went |
| 15:02.19 | Amadeo | Yeah, the PvE was awful |
| 15:02.30 | Amadeo | At least it was easy |
| 15:03.08 | |Kev| | ilifin: well, I got as far as parsing the new html structure (I wrote a more stable parser, rather than hardcoding it to the new style) |
| 15:03.29 | |Kev| | the remaining problem I have is that for some unknown reason, it won't download the damn mods! |
| 15:03.39 | ilifin | o_o |
| 15:03.43 | ilifin | why not? |
| 15:03.57 | |Kev| | an excellent question :) |
| 15:04.01 | ilifin | lol |
| 15:04.10 | sbi | polarity! |
| 15:04.15 | ilifin | is the code up on the googlecode page? |
| 15:04.17 | ilifin | I can look at it |
| 15:04.31 | |Kev| | ilifin: I can commit what I have, yes |
| 15:04.55 | Ordog | age of reckoning is going to be fun i think, it already looks more professional than lotro beta ^^ |
| 15:05.23 | ilifin | allright; for now I'm using Kemayo's WAup python thingie which works for now :p |
| 15:05.23 | kenlyric | Ordog: that would not be hard. |
| 15:05.34 | kenlyric | Untrained squirrels could make a better game than LotRo |
| 15:06.01 | Ordog | plus! the dev diaries from age of recking are really informative! |
| 15:06.20 | |Kev| | ilifin: I've sent what I have to google svn if you're interested |
| 15:06.31 | sylvanaar | why did they add the NNNN.N version number? |
| 15:07.13 | ilifin | kenlyric - looking at it in a moment |
| 15:07.21 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: It's a counter for how many times the ZIP has had the externals updated without being updated itself. |
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| 15:07.52 | vhaarr | But why, I have no idea. |
| 15:08.00 | |Kev| | oh, warhammer online? |
| 15:08.04 | sylvanaar | vhaarr well that explains why the no-externals zips are missing |
| 15:08.32 | deltron | doh |
| 15:08.35 | |Kev| | warhammer has such a fanstastic lore base, age of reckoning should be engulfing |
| 15:08.38 | deltron | sylvanaar: problem solved? :P |
| 15:09.05 | sbi | noone will be playing warhammer :p |
| 15:09.20 | kenlyric | you really need a half-assed lore base to make a good MMO. If the lore base is too well defined, you get crap like LotRo. |
| 15:09.22 | Harshmage | warhammer ain't got nothin on gurps |
| 15:09.22 | deltron | we're all too addicted to wow :D |
| 15:09.30 | sylvanaar | deltron i dont know about solved, but identified |
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| 15:09.46 | |Kev| | kenlyric: I disagree - it's fine to be well defined, but lotr is only well defined on a few characters |
| 15:09.53 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 15:09.56 | |Kev| | warhammer is well defined as a genre |
| 15:09.58 | kenlyric | warcraft had nice half-assed lore written by star trek novel writers :) |
| 15:10.07 | sbi | lal :D |
| 15:10.21 | sylvanaar | so i should remove the .NN for no-external zips? |
| 15:10.29 | kenlyric | sorry, I meant hack D&D writers |
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| 15:10.40 | sbi | who cares :p |
| 15:10.41 | Ordog | i mean ... who actually knows about all the background of warcraft? i mean more than the campaigns tell you |
| 15:10.50 | sbi | wow's lore is fine =) |
| 15:10.54 | kenlyric | Ordog. exactly. some nerds, but they don't count. |
| 15:10.55 | Harshmage | what we really need is a Starcraft MMO. That'd kick ass. |
| 15:11.10 | kenlyric | wow's lore is fine because A) it exists B) it doesn't exist too much. |
| 15:11.14 | Pneumatus | what we really need is DnF |
| 15:11.15 | Ordog | i want a shadowrun mmo! |
| 15:11.31 | Xuerian | Harshmage: I'd ask how the hell that'd work, but they made warcraft into wow, so I can't say anything |
| 15:11.47 | sbi | kenlyric, greatest thing is... everything can happen in a future expansion, can you say it about lotr? =) |
| 15:12.08 | kenlyric | sbi: not really, though I'm sure they'd find a way. |
| 15:12.11 | Harshmage | Xuerian, instead of two opposing factions, there's a three way war... |
| 15:12.29 | Amadeo | Harshmage: DAoC and Warhammer will do that for you :P |
| 15:12.44 | Harshmage | Yeah, but it's not Blizzard... |
| 15:12.51 | sbi | worst thing about wow... |
| 15:12.54 | sbi | you can't pk |
| 15:12.55 | sbi | :( |
| 15:12.57 | kenlyric | but you can't really get around the fact that LotRo is so poorly implemented that you can't get far enough into to see how phony it feels. |
| 15:12.59 | Amadeo | Harshmage: That's the bonus |
| 15:13.02 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:13.05 | Harshmage | hah |
| 15:13.31 | Amadeo | kenlyric: I played for a bit...graphics are decent, but I just couldn't get into the game |
| 15:13.40 | chutwig | Gagorian: does drdamage have any way of calculating melee damage? |
| 15:13.42 | kenlyric | it has no market... people who care won't play it, and people who don't care have WoW |
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| 15:20.21 | Thorgard | sbi, you can PK just fine in WoW. ;P Summon someone deep deep underwater.. |
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| 15:22.37 | ilifin | what happened to Cartographer_Vendors? |
| 15:22.40 | Adirelle|work | okay, carto peoples here ? |
| 15:22.46 | Adirelle|work | ilifin: felt into abyss |
| 15:22.52 | ilifin | poor thing |
| 15:24.05 | Silviu- | Adirelle|work any option to delete quest notes ? ;) |
| 15:24.11 | Silviu- | On some specific zone |
| 15:24.23 | axxo | edit the safe file |
| 15:24.45 | Adirelle|work | Silviu-: as in all other notes plugins... |
| 15:25.00 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: would you mind if Notes "core" drop non-manual notes ? so that noteshare would be required to send *and* receive external DB notes ? |
| 15:25.02 | Silviu- | del the savedfile ok |
| 15:25.02 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 15:25.48 | Adirelle|work | ~seen ckknight |
| 15:26.08 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (9h 9m 5s) #norganna (9h 9m 5s) #wowace (9h 9m 5s). Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 7h 2m 7s, last said: 'until then, this conversation is over'. |
| 15:26.08 | Adirelle|work | any other opinion on that subject ? |
| 15:26.25 | hugo | hi can i have question about cartographer |
| 15:26.33 | fanatic | sure |
| 15:26.37 | fanatic | how do i pin it? |
| 15:26.44 | hugo | like if open map and want fly to some point, and want set it as waypoint , without creating a note |
| 15:26.48 | hugo | is it possible ? |
| 15:27.12 | Wobin | /way targetflypointname z-zone |
| 15:27.33 | hugo | can i make it something like shift+right click on map or so ? |
| 15:27.43 | Wobin | should do |
| 15:27.54 | hugo | How ? :) |
| 15:28.16 | hugo | that would be very usefull.. now with the flying mounts |
| 15:28.30 | hugo | just set way and fly.. no neeed to make notes |
| 15:28.44 | Adirelle|work | wouldn't be too hard to had |
| 15:28.51 | Adirelle|work | it will create a temporay note tho |
| 15:28.54 | Wobin | oh |
| 15:28.54 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:28.56 | Adirelle|work | -had +add |
| 15:29.01 | Wobin | You need to make a temporary note |
| 15:29.06 | Wobin | Or just use the coordinates |
| 15:29.14 | Wobin | /way 12,34 |
| 15:29.39 | Adirelle|work | Wobin: you may just add "Create a waypoint here" in ctrl-right-click menu ? (or not) |
| 15:29.50 | hugo | yeah |
| 15:29.54 | hugo | Adirelle|work got the point |
| 15:29.55 | hugo | :D |
| 15:30.14 | Adirelle|work | next step: "get me there, f*ing bot" |
| 15:30.17 | Adirelle|work | :p |
| 15:30.26 | hugo | like if you know where to fly, dont need note, just want the arrow to guide you there |
| 15:30.37 | hugo | ;p |
| 15:30.58 | hugo | good for lazypeons |
| 15:31.22 | Adirelle|work | and er... we may add a sound when you get too far of the good direction, so you can aim then afk :D |
| 15:31.39 | fanatic | can you make blizzard call me up on phone aswell |
| 15:31.44 | fanatic | if i enter the wrong zone |
| 15:31.57 | Pneumatus | did you implement it getting you chicks yet Wobin? |
| 15:32.01 | Adirelle|work | yep, that will rise your subscription bill tho |
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| 15:32.07 | Wobin | Sure, sexing them up as we speak |
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| 15:33.14 | Pneumatus | i am sick of the sight of Razanni Spell-Thief mobs :< |
| 15:33.16 | art3mis | mmm update |
| 15:33.42 | Thorgard | Also needs a big-ass warning if the 'path' from your current position to your wanted destination passes over a town/city owned by the other faction. ;P |
| 15:34.03 | Pneumatus | as long as you are high enough you wont get pwnt |
| 15:34.05 | Wobin | feh screw that |
| 15:34.17 | Wobin | It's a way point system. |
| 15:34.20 | Wobin | Not a tour guide |
| 15:34.22 | art3mis | radius warning noise |
| 15:34.34 | Wobin | "And on the left, you will see an incoming ballistic missile..." |
| 15:34.42 | art3mis | set the center drag out the radius you want to mark and poof "no-fly zone |
| 15:35.05 | Thorgard | I'd also like some hot flight attendants. |
| 15:35.25 | Wobin | Reroll a warlock |
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| 15:35.48 | art3mis | hahahahaha |
| 15:36.10 | art3mis | * Players can no longer send gift wrapped packages COD. |
| 15:37.06 | fanatic | plz make it detailed wobin |
| 15:37.19 | fanatic | i want tour guide |
| 15:37.33 | Thorgard | There's a mod in itself. |
| 15:37.43 | Wobin | Sure, write the text yourself =P |
| 15:37.47 | Thorgard | Make a TourGuide mod with a bunch of lore stuff. |
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| 15:39.40 | fanatic | http://www.blizzplanet.com/coppermine/albums/Blizzard%20Employees/shane-dabiri-1.jpg <3<3<3<3<3<3<a3<3<3 |
| 15:39.41 | fanatic | SO HOT |
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| 15:39.52 | fanatic | im gonna become gay and make a coop |
| 15:40.00 | Health | eh? |
| 15:40.17 | fanatic | Shane is sexy |
| 15:40.41 | sylvanaar | i have fixed up WAU to handle the new versioning changes to the server, i have a temp link |
| 15:40.57 | TheKarn | sylvanaar, geif |
| 15:40.59 | sylvanaar | WAU-LATEST-TEST-VERSION http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wau1.7b5.zip |
| 15:41.18 | fanatic | trojan |
| 15:41.22 | TheKarn | ~literal wau |
| 15:41.24 | purl | "wau" is "WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily." |
| 15:41.24 | [Ammo] | Kaelten did that was well: http://www.wowace.com/wau/ |
| 15:41.39 | [Ammo] | he added some more stuff too sylvanaar |
| 15:41.51 | [Ammo] | not sure what exactly becuase I don't use WAU |
| 15:41.53 | TheKarn | purl, no wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. The beta can be found http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wau1.7b5.zip |
| 15:41.55 | purl | TheKarn: okay |
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| 15:43.20 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] yeah, i saw that, i havent had time to see what he changed |
| 15:44.22 | whizter | hi. is there something like lootfilter for ace2? |
| 15:44.33 | ilifin | |Kev| - I've looked at the code, cried at the language used for mac software and then some, and I'm still not sure what's wrong :p |
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| 15:44.53 | Benumbed | art3mis: I have gotten about 20 cod's from argent dawn since bc =x |
| 15:44.53 | fanatic | is it just me that loves Mr dabiri here? |
| 15:45.13 | |Kev| | ilifin: I'm not really that opposed to objective-c |
| 15:45.34 | sylvanaar | that link is low traffic, dont put it there, as soon as I see PProvost online well update the sourceforge copy |
| 15:45.43 | |Kev| | but mau is the first time I've looked at it, so I'm probably not using it to full advantage |
| 15:46.03 | sbi | i hate obj-c :p |
| 15:46.12 | sbi | that's just an opinion obv :p |
| 15:46.27 | sylvanaar | obj-c, why? why is it even still in use? |
| 15:46.31 | art3mis | Benumbed: cuz its the best scam in the game, send out 200 cods for 2-5g each, total cost to you about 10s |
| 15:46.48 | Benumbed | these cod's was for 100g |
| 15:46.52 | art3mis | haha |
| 15:47.02 | sylvanaar | o - mac still uses obj-c? |
| 15:47.10 | sbi | yay |
| 15:47.22 | TheKarn | purl, no wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. |
| 15:47.24 | purl | TheKarn: okay |
| 15:47.26 | art3mis | thats an even better profit ;) |
| 15:47.33 | |Kev| | sylvanaar: it's the primary language used on os x, yep |
| 15:47.44 | krka | yay, my deformat is working very nicely, atleast for all my current unit tests |
| 15:47.49 | whizter | is there some addon like lootfilter for ace? |
| 15:48.01 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27941 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: add empty Shadikith the Glider module. |
| 15:48.03 | art3mis | frootyloots? |
| 15:48.06 | whizter | which automatically deletes the crap from your inventory? |
| 15:48.09 | sylvanaar | |Kev| wow, what did they do, take NextOS and recompile it? |
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| 15:48.26 | art3mis | yeah there is |
| 15:48.30 | |Kev| | sylvanaar: yes |
| 15:48.31 | art3mis | i cant remember the name though |
| 15:48.33 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: Why do the revisions list with a decimal now? |
| 15:49.00 | sylvanaar | Amadeo: cause they have decimals |
| 15:49.09 | [Ammo] | decimal indicates libs were changed but not actual addon |
| 15:49.10 | |Kev| | sylvanaar: that's exactly what os x is ;) |
| 15:49.11 | sbi | nice point, lol |
| 15:49.21 | sylvanaar | |Kev| lol |
| 15:49.26 | [Ammo] | so blah.2 means that embeds inside blah changed |
| 15:49.35 | Amadeo | I see, it was just weird that WAU beta 4 didn't update addons but beta 5 updated everything, so I was worried :) |
| 15:49.37 | |Kev| | apple bought next in '97 and based os x on it |
| 15:50.02 | art3mis | only cuz jobs ran next and wanted the tech ;P |
| 15:50.04 | TheKarn | what would be nice is to have an option in WAU to download the exts as seperate addons |
| 15:50.19 | art3mis | mmmm next slabs |
| 15:50.23 | sylvanaar | |Kev| yeah, next was jobs tech incubator |
| 15:50.41 | |Kev| | r |
| 15:50.50 | sbi | it would be nice to have a graphviz graph showing addons dependencies |
| 15:50.51 | TheKarn | so if you installed an addon that used candybar for instance, you can choose to download the no-exts version and it would automatically add candybar to your list of installed addons |
| 15:51.26 | art3mis | i heard a story after he left apple and went to next, he was at an expo and he had the station right next to mac and while they were running 4 windows with full motion video he had his next open with 16 videos playing just to prove it was better at multipl apps and rendering |
| 15:51.43 | art3mis | sbi: install with externals ;P |
| 15:52.01 | sbi | art3mis, mh? |
| 15:52.26 | art3mis | ace addons that install with externals from the wau include the libs they need |
| 15:52.36 | sbi | sure, but.. ? |
| 15:52.44 | art3mis | so you can check em, get the full version rm the dir and install without ;P |
| 15:52.47 | TheKarn | there are benefits to installing the libs serperatly |
| 15:52.52 | sbi | i just want to see the graph :p |
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| 15:52.55 | art3mis | oh |
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| 15:53.03 | art3mis | alright mr.graphy ;) |
| 15:53.10 | neenee | only one I thinik though |
| 15:53.11 | sbi | and see how many afferent deps are on a mod :) |
| 15:53.19 | art3mis | on average 6 |
| 15:53.21 | neenee | Just the quicker initial loading |
| 15:53.32 | Myrathi | Mmm. Myrathi 4 : M$Explorer 0. Boom! |
| 15:53.45 | art3mis | only 4? |
| 15:53.46 | sbi | should get an idea on how many people will blame you on modifing something on a lib with many afferent deps |
| 15:53.51 | Myrathi | Today. :) |
| 15:53.56 | art3mis | hehe must be a slow day |
| 15:53.59 | sylvanaar | well, the package system lets you make mods which include more than one addon, thats a start |
| 15:54.02 | art3mis | oh man i have the best story for you |
| 15:54.12 | Myrathi | Yeah. It was beating me 11:6 yesterday. |
| 15:54.18 | Myrathi | If it locks up, it wins. |
| 15:54.25 | art3mis | couple days ago i got my action pack vista business upgrade |
| 15:54.26 | Myrathi | If it just explodes and dies totally, I win. ;) |
| 15:54.29 | ilifin | |Kev| - to be honest I'm having a hard time reading obj-c cause of all those [()] every friggin where |
| 15:54.44 | sbi | art3mis, stay away from me :p |
| 15:54.56 | Myrathi | Vista. Ew. |
| 15:55.24 | art3mis | so i upgraded my test xp box, last boot of the upgrade it decided i had changed hardware and did a repeating blue screen, so i reinstakll a "clean" version in a different location and pick activate it later |
| 15:55.58 | deltron | heh |
| 15:56.00 | sbi | art3mis, you have to call Satan's hotline in those cases =) |
| 15:56.04 | |Kev| | ilifin: yes, that's a bit hard to read unless you're lisp or smalltalk happy :) |
| 15:56.05 | art3mis | when i go to activate it says my key is already i use, the key that MS sent me with my actionpack, and this was my first activation of the code |
| 15:56.06 | deltron | vista is such a pain |
| 15:56.37 | TheKarn | erm when WAU b5 doesnt detect your wow installation dir, it tells you to change it in edit->preferences. |
| 15:56.37 | sylvanaar | i was going to add a dependancy walk to queue any missing dependancies, but, it just isnt worth the hassle |
| 15:56.37 | mitch0 | are those stars and moons and whatnot that you place above your target's head part of the default UI or are they part of CT? |
| 15:56.37 | TheKarn | one problem. it disables the edit menu when it doesnt have a wow dir set. |
| 15:56.45 | Xuerian | mitch0: Default |
| 15:56.48 | sylvanaar | that sucks |
| 15:56.52 | Myrathi | pOrbit->Nuke(GetLoc(MSHQ)); |
| 15:56.53 | Myrathi | :P |
| 15:56.57 | mitch0 | Xuerian: what's the api/macro to place them? |
| 15:57.02 | art3mis | so icall the actionpack and say what the hell, they give me another code thats the exact same code i already had, so they transfer me to product activation, 1st person tried to activate xp pro for me instead of vista business upgrade |
| 15:57.33 | sbi | art3mis, i heard a story similar to yours! |
| 15:57.39 | ilifin | |Kev| - downloadLatest in Plugin.m that fetches zip files right? |
| 15:57.40 | Xuerian | mitch0: Look at SetRaidTarget (I think) in the wowwiki api reference. www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 15:57.40 | sylvanaar | it disables the edit menu if you try to update without the wow dir set |
| 15:57.41 | sbi | art3mis, it was called... uhm odissey =) |
| 15:57.46 | |Kev| | ilifin: correct |
| 15:57.56 | mitch0 | Xuerian: thanks |
| 15:58.00 | ilifin | atleast I managed to read that much >_> |
| 15:58.03 | pb_ee1 | !googlehelp |
| 15:58.09 | |Kev| | which in turn uses getPage:toFile: in UrlGrabber |
| 15:58.11 | TheKarn | sylvanaar, it disables it when you load the program. prbly why it tries to update what addons you have |
| 15:58.17 | TheKarn | so it doesnt give you a chance to change the settings |
| 15:58.19 | pb_ee1 | !api acedb |
| 15:58.49 | art3mis | so i call AP support back and they transfer me to somone else, who starts asking about the "activate by phone" which btw isnt an option in vista, so i talk to the manager while the AP person is on the phone as well and i ask him "you know what the action pack is right?" "yes thats right" "umm you know what the action pack is right?" "yes thats right" "it's not a thats right type of quesion it's a yes or no, do you know what the action pack |
| 15:59.05 | ilifin | |Kev|, is it setting the path correct? |
| 15:59.32 | Thorgard | art3mis, baahaaa. |
| 15:59.36 | ilifin | I'm thinking that since it adds "_downloads/" to the path, if the default path doesn't have a / at the end it might break? |
| 15:59.50 | |Kev| | indeed, but the default path is correct |
| 15:59.51 | |Kev| | 2007-02-13 12:54:07.903 MacAceUpdater[1974] Trying to install plugin: Ace2 |
| 15:59.52 | |Kev| | 2007-02-13 12:54:07.903 MacAceUpdater[1974] Downloading to folder: /Applications/Games/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/_downloads/ |
| 15:59.55 | |Kev| | 2007-02-13 12:54:07.903 MacAceUpdater[1974] Downloading file http://www.wowace.com/files/Ace2/Ace2-r27805.zip |
| 15:59.58 | |Kev| | 2007-02-13 12:54:07.903 MacAceUpdater[1974] To /Applications/Games/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/_downloads//files/Ace2/Ace2-r27805.zip |
| 16:00.05 | art3mis | "yes" "alrgiht what is it" "well sir we need you to tell us the byphone generate.." "you don't know whats oing on do you. this is vista that option doesnt exist and whenthe last person tried it said it was invalid" "well sir we need to,," so i get the AP person to disconnect the call |
| 16:00.27 | ilifin | |Kev| - double backslash? :p |
| 16:00.34 | art3mis | all in all it was a hilarious day |
| 16:00.40 | art3mis | so even better |
| 16:00.47 | art3mis | i grab a new box with a scsi cdrom |
| 16:01.16 | |Kev| | ilifin: that's whan I'm checking now if it's the problem |
| 16:01.22 | Myrathi | I love talking to idiots like that and firing questions at them where the answer is "yes". Then straight on the end going "You're an idiot, right?" and they go "Yes. Wait..." |
| 16:01.23 | art3mis | start the upgrade while in xp(after reinstalling xp clean) and part way through the file copy it tries to init the new cdrom drivers for vista, which causes it to stop copying files |
| 16:01.25 | Myrathi | :D |
| 16:01.43 | ilifin | |Kev| - which app do you use to commit/checkout/etc to SVNs btw |
| 16:01.47 | art3mis | hehe god i LOVE vista |
| 16:01.57 | art3mis | this product is gonna make me sooooooo much money |
| 16:02.00 | ilifin | I noticed svn isn't default in os x so I've been using some weird app I stumbled over :p |
| 16:02.11 | Myrathi | LOL |
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| 16:02.19 | |Kev| | I just use svn from fink |
| 16:02.20 | Xuerian | haha |
| 16:02.25 | TheKarn | SmartSVN works well |
| 16:02.26 | Xuerian | Well, that's the good way to look at it XD |
| 16:02.27 | ilifin | o, I don't have fink on this machine |
| 16:02.32 | Myrathi | Huzzah for failing to install temporary filesystem drivers during upgrade XD |
| 16:02.36 | art3mis | hehe it's the only way i can look at it ;P |
| 16:02.37 | pastamancer | SmartSVN is what I use on my mac |
| 16:02.39 | TheKarn | TortoiseSVN breaks Vista Explorer |
| 16:02.55 | art3mis | opening a new text file breaks vista explorer ;P |
| 16:03.00 | sbi | tortoisesvn never worked on my pcs btw |
| 16:03.06 | Myrathi | Probably messed up the icon handlers. |
| 16:03.10 | art3mis | hll some days i think if yopu glance at it wrong itll crash |
| 16:03.24 | Myrathi | Whole bunch of that crap changed subtly between XP and Vista. |
| 16:03.47 | Myrathi | I know this because.. that's exactly what I'm working on just now - and I have to be damn careful that I'm looking at the pre-Vista dox :P |
| 16:03.53 | |Kev| | ilifin: all fixed, packaging and releasing now |
| 16:03.56 | art3mis | its like they looked at mac and went hey we can do that! and then took the things from mac.com that everyone complained about |
| 16:04.10 | Myrathi | ..and messed them up? |
| 16:04.11 | |Kev| | your mau should ask you to update on next launch, as long as that's over 15mins away :) |
| 16:04.31 | art3mis | hehe more so than they were yeah ;p |
| 16:04.41 | Myrathi | Heh. |
| 16:04.58 | Myrathi | Well, this little project's turning out to be quite informative, regardless. |
| 16:04.59 | art3mis | im so glad i still have this happy win2k box here |
| 16:05.06 | Myrathi | Though, I still hate COM. :P |
| 16:05.10 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:05.22 | Myrathi | Friggin' interfaces. |
| 16:05.30 | art3mis | so today when i go into work im gonna install an ide cdrom |
| 16:05.36 | art3mis | and see how the upgrade goes ;P |
| 16:05.40 | Myrathi | And see if it explodes? |
| 16:05.43 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:05.46 | sbi | Myrathi, you like corba better? =) |
| 16:05.47 | Myrathi | Woo! |
| 16:05.52 | art3mis | i know! |
| 16:05.53 | Myrathi | :S |
| 16:06.29 | art3mis | and i gotta import my sql dbase from one box to another today too |
| 16:06.32 | ilifin | |Kev| - what was the problem? |
| 16:06.46 | art3mis | thats always fun since the .sql it makes on export doesnt work as an import |
| 16:06.56 | sbi | art3mis, ahah |
| 16:07.13 | sbi | art3mis, i got a bug yesterday using "source" |
| 16:07.34 | sbi | it seems to put random crap at the start of the file `sourced` |
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| 16:07.35 | Myrathi | Got enough on my plate re-learning COM(+) and shell extensions without diving headfirst into the CCM again ;P |
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| 16:07.50 | |Kev| | ilifin: the ultimate problem was indeed the double // in the filename |
| 16:07.51 | art3mis | heh nice |
| 16:08.17 | art3mis | my particular neat bug is that it decideds its not gona upgrade all the libs, only the ones it feels like |
| 16:08.26 | ilifin | |Kev| - that's mac pickyness for you |
| 16:08.31 | art3mis | so it gets aprtially into it, wrecks the dbase and then errors |
| 16:08.40 | |Kev| | ilifin: would you be so kind as to check that http://macaceupdater.googlecode.com/files/MacAceUpdater-0.3.1.dmg runs please? then I'll send an announcement in the autoupdate feed |
| 16:08.48 | |Kev| | +please |
| 16:10.07 | Myrathi | Aw, dammit. Me 4 : Explorer 1. :( |
| 16:10.13 | ilifin | it seems to work, but not properly, |Kev| |
| 16:10.15 | art3mis | ha ha! |
| 16:10.26 | ilifin | it doesn't recognize me having nQuestLog installed, which I blatantly do |
| 16:10.30 | Myrathi | It shall not overtake me today! |
| 16:10.30 | art3mis | no shut out for you today |
| 16:10.35 | ilifin | neither oRA2 or ag_UnitFrames |
| 16:10.42 | Myrathi | Ooh! Ooh! |
| 16:10.53 | Myrathi | It's 5:0! It finally crashed XD |
| 16:10.59 | art3mis | hahahahaha |
| 16:10.59 | Myrathi | rofl |
| 16:11.07 | |Kev| | ilifin: do you have the path to the addons folder set correctly in preferences? |
| 16:11.08 | Myrathi | Damn thing's teasing me now. |
| 16:11.19 | |Kev| | and is it only not recognising some addons, or all addons? |
| 16:11.30 | ilifin | |Kev| - absolutely, those 3 mods were the only ones it didn't find |
| 16:11.30 | neenee | Does anyone know how AceCast works? |
| 16:11.47 | Myrathi | Woops. Forgot to unregister the DLL before restarting Ex and it straight up died again >_< |
| 16:11.51 | ilifin | oh, eePanels aswell |
| 16:11.54 | |Kev| | ilifin: how terribly odd - how did you install those mods? |
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| 16:12.05 | |Kev| | i.e. is it possible you deleted the changelogs? |
| 16:12.18 | ilifin | well, I just recently, 1 hour ago, manually updated every single mod I had with .zip files from files.* |
| 16:12.45 | Myrathi | Ex seems to be seriously picky about the BMP formats you use for thumbnails. :| |
| 16:13.04 | Myrathi | Even for some formats that *it* specifies |
| 16:13.07 | art3mis | cyCircle is a kind of neat addond |
| 16:13.20 | art3mis | it amkes autobar not look ugly |
| 16:13.23 | art3mis | makes |
| 16:13.48 | |Kev| | ilifin: are the changelogs present? |
| 16:13.53 | ilifin | |Kev|, it detects all mods with uppercase first letter, but lowercase ones, EXCLUDING sct* mods, aren't being detected |
| 16:13.57 | Myrathi | Round buttons are... funky. |
| 16:14.13 | art3mis | oh its not just round |
| 16:14.18 | neenee | I do not like round buttons |
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| 16:14.22 | art3mis | it has squared too but textured |
