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00:00.00NeoTrondunno
00:00.05Pneumatusi assumed the next patch would be 2.1.0
00:00.06MyrathiHeh. Everyone calls the WAU by its abbrev form but there's no wiki redirect page for it. :P Tsk.
00:00.13NeoTronbest ever "Players can no longer send gift wrapped packages via COD."
00:00.33NeoTronseems like quitea minor patch to put on the ptrs
00:00.36GnomeTankPneumatus: That would be the next content patch, which I am assuming is WAY off....think the Dire Maul patch after release :) What was it, five months?
00:00.51Pneumatusthere are already preliminary patch notes for 2.1.0 up
00:01.06GnomeTankI am assuming some of the 25-mans will come open in 2.1.0
00:01.18nymbiaGnomeTank: er.. dire mail was a long, long time after release.  try maraudon. ;)
00:01.26NightHawkTheSaneI wouldn't be surprised if we 2.1 within 1-2 months
00:01.32GnomeTankokay, maura was still, what? four months?
00:01.39GnomeTankadmittedly, the patching process at release was horrid
00:01.46shieldbNeoTron, I don't think that will ever make up for not being able to gift wrap stackable items, though
00:01.51nymbiaGnomeTank: a month and a half maybe.  lemme look at the notes...
00:02.17GnomeTankNah, it was way longer than that...I remember the up roar about how long it was
00:02.18Pneumatushttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
00:02.23GnomeTankbecause so many major bugs were sitting htere unfixed
00:02.35shieldbBeing unable to gift wrap and send a piece of coal to every member of my guild around the holidays made me sad
00:02.41ckknightI just want texture rotation without bleeding...
00:03.06nymbiaGnomeTank: World of Warcraft Client Patch 1.2.0 (2004-12-21), so 29 days after release.
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00:03.17Pneumatus2.1.0 is gonna bring the addon memory fixes which will actually cause it to GC
00:03.39GnomeTanknymbia: Hmm...maybe it was the 1.2 to 1.3 gap then that was so long it caused everyone to have a cow
00:04.03ckknightI came in at 1.8
00:04.09Scre3mnql is great! but it doesn't do what EQL does
00:04.13Pneumatusi started on 1.5 or somethin
00:04.32GnomeTankhehe, I was there on release night...oh the joy!
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00:04.56GnomeTankactually, it wasn't so bad at midnight of release night...the next day at around ~3pm when the kids got out of school...see ya servers
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00:05.37GnomeTankthe TBC related lag/crashes were cake frosting compared to the WoW release day
00:05.42Pneumatusscratch that, i started playing in 1.3, dire maul was new
00:05.50NeoTronwell I think we're good on 25 mans
00:05.51art3mis1.4 for me
00:05.55ckknightI still wanna know how many people took sick days on TBC release
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00:06.02NeoTrontwo small 25 mans, 2 large 25 mans in game
00:06.03MyrathiThat's it. I'm fed up with this IntelliTXT advertising bullshit. Talk about unrelated pish.
00:06.07nymbiaGnomeTank: yeah 1.3.0 was 2005-03-22, so a few months gap there.  and that was fire maul
00:06.08GnomeTankI didn't for TBC, but I took a two week vacation for WoW 1.0 release
00:06.14NeoTronsorry
00:06.15Pneumatus- World of Warcraft Client Patch 1.3.0 (2005-03-22)
00:06.15NeoTron3 25 mans
00:06.17NeoTronforgot hyjal
00:06.22nymbias/fire/dire/
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00:07.00shieldbMyrathi, firefox + adblock plus + adblock filterset.g updater + noscript?
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00:07.31shieldbI haven't really seen any advertising on the web at all for over a year I think, other then a few things here or there
00:08.08GnomeTankNoScript just annoys me...the rest of those addons are good
00:08.18Pneumatusi have all those except noscript
00:08.23Pneumatusbut i block js with adblock
00:08.37Chinkunymbia: would you mind having a look at manufac to find out why it messes up the item list when you learn new stuff to craft?
00:08.44shieldbI like noscript now, but it was kind of a pain at first because I had to unblock so many sites :)
00:09.24nymbiaChinku: got any errors?
00:10.16Chinkunymbia: not at all, just the first level menu being somehow confused; got menu entries without a name and such.
00:11.04nymbiaChinku: hmm.. screenshot maybe?
00:11.08GnomeTankanyway, *poof* I'm gone...time to go brave Houston traffic to get home
00:11.34Chinkunymbia: narf. forgot about that, sorry. don't have one atm.
00:13.23nymbiaChinku: ok.  well i've mostly been working on the redone version of manufac.. so my real concern is wether stitch is handling the new recipe properly.. so next time you learn something and it does it, grab a screenshot if you can :)
00:14.45Chinkunymbia: aye. just put a huge note in front of my screen for not to forget. ;-)
00:14.56nymbiaChinku:  :)
00:15.43Chinkunymbia: looking forward for that rewritten version of manufac. :-) i'm especially interested if that silly issue in combination with auctioneer will disappear...
00:16.49nymbiaChinku: yeah i'll get auctioneer support working again
00:18.07nymbiaChinku: and for the fubar plugin it lets you view all the professions at once instead of having to reopen each one
00:18.39Chinkunymbia: not sure whether it's caused by manufac or by auctioneer. it's about invisible frames on the screen that catch mouse-over events and show auctioneer tooltips.
00:19.26Chinkunymbia: most annoying is that these invisible items also block mouse clicks as long as the trade skill icon in the action bar is active.
00:19.38nymbiaChinku: well manufac only makes one frame that isn't a dropdown menu, and it's never mouse enabled
00:20.03nymbiaChinku: hover over them and do /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
00:20.22Chinkunymbia: ah, ok. added that to the note :-)
00:20.29nymbia:)
00:21.11Chinkunymbia: but let's postpone that one until you release the refactored manufac.
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00:21.45Chinkunymbia: I got used to it now, and it's easy to avoid for the time being.
00:22.01nymbiaChinku: the invisible frames you mean?
00:22.40durcynChinku: based on my experience, those are quite possibly tradeskill frames
00:22.42Chinkunymbia: right. workaround is to simply switch off the active trade skill button and it goes away. i'm fine with that ;-)
00:23.18durcynwhich might happen if they were hidden with, oh... setalpha instead of :hide?
00:23.40CIA-1703rophy * r27587 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (3 files):
00:23.41CIA-17SimpleUnitFrames:
00:23.41CIA-17- Fixed Party and Target PortraitDamage strata.
00:24.20Chinkudurcyn: yes, you're probably right.
00:24.28nymbiaChinku: oh weird.  Manufac hides and :EnableMouse(false)'s those, something else must be undoing that.  moot point though -- the new manufac handles that much more smoothly. :)
00:24.30Chinkuwill check that tomorrow
00:25.19Chinkunymbia: that's why I suggested to postpone it - repairing a soon-to-be outdated version makes no sense, I think ;-)
00:25.47nymbiaChinku: yeah, just wanted to make sure that it wasnt something weird that i hadnt yet dealt with
00:26.51Chinkunymbia: hopefully I will be able to give you more detailed info with the help of that line of code you posted.
00:27.26nymbiaChinku: if they're on the left side of the screen then it's definitely the ones i'm thinking of.
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00:28.54Chinkunymbia: maybe. I almost always encountered them when trying to select group members via the party frame (on the left of my screen) or trying to target enemies (usually somewhere in the center).
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00:29.52Chinkunymbia: but well, however, me be gone now; as usual it's again 1:30 a.m. here. ;-)
00:30.02Chinkugood night everyone :-)
00:30.13CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27588 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
00:30.13CIA-17Manufac:
00:30.13CIA-17- Some weird temporary tweaks to make positioning work, get rid of some old BlizzUI disabling code.
00:30.20nymbianight Chinku :)
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00:35.19CIA-1703ckknight * r27589 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu - added bottom, top, side, cave, road, island, lake, and wanders? to the list of highlights
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00:44.35CIA-1703adirelle * r27590 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua: BigTrouble: added the 0.5s autoshot delay that may occur after other weaved-in shots.
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00:57.29CIA-1703nymbia * r27591 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua:
00:57.29CIA-17Stitch-1.0:
00:57.29CIA-17- Use API functions instead of text on the Tradeskill frame to determine the open tradeskill.
00:57.29CIA-17- Fix some leading spaces
01:01.22NightHawkTheSaneI'm thinking I should turn off join/leave messages. ><
01:01.40vhaarrI did that 5 years ago, I've never looked back.
01:04.22Teshnoranyone know how to open a baggins bag with macro?
01:06.08winkilleranyone knows the order of the arcatraz bosses
01:06.11winkiller?
01:06.29CIA-1703funkydude * r27592 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua:
01:06.29CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen:
01:06.29CIA-17- drycoded 'attempt' at adding curse warnings for afflicted warriors
01:07.33NightHawkTheSanewinkiller: Zereketh the Unbound, Wrath-Scryer Soccothrates/Dalliah the Doomsayer, Harbinger Skyriss
01:07.46NightHawkTheSane(the middle two are in the same room and can be done in any order)
01:08.07winkillerand warden mellichar?
01:08.37winkillerthe wowwiki article-navi is broken, wanted to fix that. but now wowwiki has loading problems, gnah :)
01:08.54durcynwarden mellichar isn't a boss, he's a gatekeeper for the skyriss event
01:09.08NightHawkTheSaneWarden Mellichar is not a boss
01:09.15NightHawkTheSaneer, yeah, what durcyn said
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01:09.36winkillerthanks
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01:13.01cladhairenevcairiel: Can i convince you to upload hotcandy to one of the three mod sites?
01:13.19cladhaireplease
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01:13.54cladhairei want to cover it in the book,. but i can't if its not somewhere.
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01:14.26Ironhandcan someone tell me how I can call up the normal portrait right-click menu while running ag_UnitFrames?
01:14.46ilifinright click the frames...?
01:15.00Ironhandthat gets me the aguf config menu
01:15.05ilifineh
01:15.10ilifinthat happens only if you hold alt down
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01:15.22IronhandI'm rather sure that I'm not holding alt...
01:15.42ilifinand I'm rather sure that rightclicking does pop the proper menu and alt rightclick pops the config .p
01:16.00Ironhandhmmmmm...
01:16.13ilifinI'd try updating to latest
01:16.18ilifinor even downgrading
01:16.28ilifinsince ag_uf is very prone to break on update
01:16.51Teshnorweeei... /script Baggins:ToggleBag(bagId)
01:16.54Teshnornice macro :P
01:16.54Ironhandthx - I'll try a downgrade
01:17.14ilifinIronhand - rememeber, always delete the old folder first with ace mods :x
01:17.18ilifinif you're doing zips anyway
01:17.26IronhandI do that regardless
01:17.35Ironhandrunning r27352 atm btw
01:17.42binderis there an ace mod similar to expense history?
01:18.49ilifinI dunno what expense history is - if you're looking for something that counts how much money you've spent/lost over sessions days or weeks, moneyfu does that
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01:19.22binderyep
01:19.33binderdoes it break it down by like repairs etc?
01:19.56ilifinthat it doesn't
01:20.03ilifinit only shows overall expenses
01:21.41binderok
01:22.01ilifinIronhand - updated to the revision you had; I can right click
01:22.04binderI'm just trying to figure what mods are screwing up cartographer's cordinates
01:22.08vhaarrckknight: So, I had a AceModuleCore-2.0 that did :SetModuleMixins("AceDB-2.0") and in OnInitialize of the modules, I called the core with a :RegisterModule(self.name, self), and that in turn did a module.db = self:AcquireDBNamespace(...) and a self:RegisterDefaults(name, ...) - this, of course, caused an error, but the error was quite strange.
01:22.35CIA-1703nymbia * r27593 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua:
01:22.35CIA-17Stitch-1.0:
01:22.35CIA-17- Fix for caching items in the wrong table when switching immediately between tradeskills.
01:22.39CIA-1703funkydude * r27594 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua:
01:22.39CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden:
01:22.39CIA-17- clarify the ~33 seconds
01:22.40CIA-17- slightly earlier warning
01:22.40CIA-17- start bar/announce from engage
01:22.47vhaarrckknight: It errored on line 1613 in AceDB-2.0, with something like "Could not access self.db.raw, try self.db["raw"]".
01:22.47Ironhandthanks ilifin, I just tried an older version and I can right click now as well... guess I'll have to hunt down which version breaks it
01:23.18vhaarrIn function AceDB:IsActive().
01:23.51CIA-1703funkydude * r27595 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Moroes.lua:
01:23.51CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Moroes:
01:23.51CIA-17- fix blind warning
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01:35.45Ironhandilifin: after going back to the newest version it works ok now - the fact that the newest version still shows its own version at r25259 doesn't help though...
01:38.29ilifinweird o_o
01:39.05Andune~seen sylvanaar
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01:39.35Ironhandoh well, stranger things have happened
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01:43.18PogoTribalBT3 not showing GCD? Pretty serious bug there...
01:43.37copystring__is there a way to manually quere the realm for an item?
01:43.42copystring__*query
01:44.14Gigaknightawesome. my warlock was permabanned for "Economy Exploitation", just after Blizzard restored the warlock's items after the account was hijacked. :s
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01:46.33nymbiahow do you pull off "Economy Exploitation"?
01:47.02SoBe-selling your arcatraz key
01:47.04SoBe-for 2.5g
01:47.09SoBe-and getting a new one from a'dal over and over
01:47.13SoBe-and making ~1500g/hr
01:47.17nymbiaahhh
01:47.17GigaknightI think that's the general category for "selling everything on a character and his bags"
01:47.23SoBe-and you got perma banned Gigaknight? everoyne i knew only had 72hr
01:47.37SoBe-or were you banned for some other eco exploit
01:47.45GigaknightAccess to this account has been permanently disabled for exploitation of the World of Warcraft economy or for being associated to accounts which have been closed for intended exploitation
01:48.06PogoTribalI'm the only one without global cooldowns showing up on my action bars?
01:49.06CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27596 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
01:49.06CIA-17Manufac:
01:49.06CIA-17- Fix menu position setting
01:55.37MyrathiAh. That's why I never updated to QuestFu: you can't hover over quest entries and see the description text in a tooltip. Kinda like that feature of MQ :\
01:56.21MyrathiAnd you can't manually widen/lock the detached tablet, either. -_-
01:56.34MyrathiEr.. widen+lock, even.
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01:59.30PogoTribalI'm the only one without global cooldowns showing up on my action bars?
01:59.49PogoTribalThis is really fucking annoying.
02:00.39Silviu-PogoTribal yes i guess ;)
02:00.42Silviu-Atme works
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02:03.18PogoTribalI'm using BT3 and CDC
02:03.29Silviu-Bt3 and Omnicc
02:03.30PogoTribalIt's not CDC cus I just disabled it, so I have some kind of problem with BT3.
02:03.57Yinchieuse omnicc
02:04.00Silviu-But u want in numbers u mean ?
02:04.10PogoTribalI mean the global cooldown, not cooldown timers.
02:04.12Silviu-and global cooldown of 1.5s ?
02:04.27PogoTribalIt's not fading out the icons for 1.5 seconds after casting.
02:04.37Silviu-Ahm strange at me it does
02:08.10CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27597 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-Defaults.lua Manufac-DefaultsBase.lua):
02:08.10CIA-17Manufac:
02:08.10CIA-17- Update defaults with a lot of new Alchemy and Cooking stuff.
02:10.07Silviu-PogoTribal http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot020907040524gi2.jpg this u mean ?
02:10.31PogoTribalCorrect.
02:11.08Silviu-Don`t know :/
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02:12.09Burtonsilviu> you have ag_unitframes right?
02:12.37PogoTribalOmniCC isn't on the aceupdater?
02:13.48Silviu-Burton yes
02:13.56Silviu-PogoTribal no is on wowi
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02:14.02Burtonare your aguf castbars jerky...?
02:14.16Silviu-jerky ?
02:14.27Burton"not smooth"
02:14.38Silviu-Not using them atm
02:14.39Silviu-:)
02:14.43Silviu-PogoTribal http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4836-OmniCooldownCount.html
02:14.45PogoTribalwowi has the worst fucking searching system ever seen
02:14.52Silviu-Yes, true
02:14.52Silviu-:)
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02:15.08PogoTribalif I search for OmniCooldownCount, I don't even get it
02:15.09Silviu-U search for Omni and is on second page
02:15.12Silviu-But .. :)
02:15.17Silviu-Is separated
02:15.18Silviu-:)
02:15.25PogoTribalit's absolutely retarded
02:15.28Silviu-Omni Cooldown Count
02:15.33PogoTribalthe search results make no sense whatsoever
02:15.49Silviu-I pasted u the link
02:15.50Silviu-:)
02:16.15PogoTriballol, I searched Omni Cooldown Count and it's not even on the first page, I got a whole page filled with compilations.
02:16.18PogoTribalYeah, thanks Silviu
02:16.43Silviu-No problem
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02:17.06Silviu-Damn, farming is booring ...
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02:20.35PogoTribalStill getting the problem
02:21.17Silviu-PogoTribal, suggestion backup your Bt3 savedvar, del Bt3 folder redownload it full .. and delete savedvar
02:21.19Silviu-:P
02:21.21Silviu-And see
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02:22.05PogoTribalno need, cyCircled was causing the problem
02:22.39Silviu-I have cycircled too
02:22.40Silviu-o.O
02:27.03CIA-1703laotseu * r27598 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua):
02:27.03CIA-17AllPlayed:
02:27.03CIA-17- Add sort by % rest and reverse % rest
02:28.08PogoTribalOk I just disabled and enabled all my BT3 bars and it seems to work fine now
02:30.14PogoTribalCooldownCount-1.1\CooldownCount.lua:111: 'string.gfind' was renamed to 'string.gmatch'
02:30.14PogoTribalCooldownCount-1.1\CooldownCount.lua:111: in function `editBoxFunc'
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02:38.44tjsso is it against the TOS to submit info about your characters bank/inventory to a website?
02:39.39Silviu-Question, how do i disable receiving notes from my guild ? they spam me with fishing notes ( Cartographer )
02:39.41tjswas just pondering on the idea of a WoW market-place off-realm
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02:40.26tjsan addon that would let you go through your bank/bags. and flag items as 'for sale', when you log out they would be posted to a website that would let people browse items and bid (like the AH) for their particular realm
02:40.46tjsregardless of faction, etc
02:41.08moktoday i got ingame spam for something like this
02:41.38tjsspam ftl :/
02:41.50moksilviu- i think u have to use the noteshare module to filter incoming notes
02:42.34Silviu-mok thx
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02:59.48KemayoMyrathi: Well, you can lock the tablet.  Widening has actually recently become possible, but I don't believe there are menu options for it in FuBar yet.
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03:09.09CIA-17BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden:
03:09.09CIA-17- updated deDE, thanks to Deli
03:14.08chutwigthey published 2.0.7 PTR notes if anyone didn't see
03:14.15chutwigvery few changes of import
03:14.16Funkeh`where
03:14.41Funkeh`link? ^^
03:15.00chutwighttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
03:15.58Funkeh`ty
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03:17.23Silviu-And ui changes ? ;)
03:17.36Silviu-is 2.1.0 changes in already or ?
03:17.58CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27600 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-enUS.lua Manufac.lua):
03:17.58CIA-17Manufac:
03:17.58CIA-17- Refresh line when profession data is needed.
03:24.11Funkeh`nn
03:24.34Funkeh`away for the weekend, forum pm me if you want something :p
03:27.44SoBe-wow, chess event is like free loot
03:28.06vhaarrAnyone know if I can somehow lock an EditBox?
03:43.38nymbiavhaarr: like.. freeze the text?
03:45.00vhaarrnymbia: yeah
03:46.26nymbiavhaarr: :EnableKeyboard(false) might work
03:46.56vhaarrnymbia: I'll try it out, thanks.
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03:50.20ZealotOnAStickFunky - you have everything you need for romulo and julianne, or would another transcript help?
03:51.13_neuron_ffs... getting instant disconnected when I login now
03:51.50_neuron_logging out while on windrider wasn't such a great idea I guess
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03:57.35SoBe-ahh shade of aran
03:57.36SoBe-die =/
03:57.43SoBe-this fight is like thaddius
03:57.48SoBe-thank god its only 10 people
03:57.54SoBe-because 1 dumbass screws it up for all
04:07.21Silverstormneuron, any luck with the right-align on the quest/objective progress?
04:08.12vhaarrpwnage commit inc
04:08.14CIA-1703rabbit * r27601 10BugSack/ (5 files):
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04:08.53vhaarrSomeone please test the error communications, it's 100% drycoded.
04:10.04vhaarrI won't be able to test it until tomorrow.
04:12.05Arrowmasternymbia: add http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28112 to pt3 please
04:12.25nymbiaArrowmaster: k
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04:19.24Silviu-vhaarr no errors, but atm don`t have with noone to test :)
04:19.33vhaarrSilviu-: :P
04:20.53ilifinamazing
04:21.04ilifinI'm one of 4 players on the EU 2.0.7 PTRs at the momen
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04:22.57lhunathis there some kind of general central for suggestions/bug reports, like an ace bugzilla; rather than having to say it here on irc and hope some dev reads it?
04:23.06vhaarrForums.
04:24.25Silviu-vhaarr can u add opt to send to /party/guild ?
04:24.25Silviu-Maybe
04:24.31vhaarrSilviu-: No.
04:24.34Silviu-Ok
04:25.57vhaarrI just tested it by sending bugs to myself, at least that worked fine :P
04:26.00vhaarrAnyway, I'm off.
04:26.07Silviu-Sleep well
04:26.08Silviu-:)
04:27.06Arrowmasterwe need a tabcomplete for dewdrop textbox's
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04:34.45ZealotOnAStickAnyone familiar with the Romulo and Julianne right in Kharazan?
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04:39.33PHL-Chuckdo kc items do basic scanning and price estimation for posting items like auctioneer?
04:39.46PHL-Chuckdoes*
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04:49.06VelkynAnyone know if the waypoint no longer saving in Cart is intentional?
04:49.54Silviu-Velkyn feature :)
04:51.38VelkynSilviu:  Anyway to change a setting so they save?
04:52.12VelkynSilviu:  Spending the time to input all of the quest waypoints for a zone everytime I login/out... isn't "helpfull"
04:52.55nuOHEP_set them as notes?
04:54.58VelkynCan you set a note from the command line?
04:56.33Silviu-./note ?
04:57.46VelkynSilviu:  Let me get in game and check it out, so "/note X Y <description>" should work just like /tloc use to?
04:58.14Silviu-Yes i guess
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04:59.25VelkynSilviu:  Thank you sir.
04:59.38Wobinhi2uall from ubuntu =)
04:59.44Silviu-Velkyn no problem
04:59.55Wobincan anyone suggest a relatively easy to use irc program in linux? =)
05:00.01Wobincause gaim aint cutting it
05:00.18vid`i used bitchx when i used to use nix
05:00.40vid`if you want something graphical tho i dunno
05:00.46Wobinyeah
05:00.50WobinI'd prefer graphical
05:00.54Wobinjust cause I'm more used to it
05:01.44Wobinoh hey xchat
05:03.08NightHawkTheSanexchat wins.
05:04.46Wobinhm, can anyone point me to some page which can tell me about aptitude and/or apt-get and how to use it properly?
05:08.32SlackerJeraptitude update; aptitude install <packagename>
05:09.51Wobin*<3s google*
05:10.01WobinAye, I had to uncomment some sources
05:10.39WobinI have to say
05:10.47WobinThe whole apt-get thing?
05:10.50Wobinlovely.
05:10.57NightHawkTheSaneapt owns.
05:11.14Wobinhehe now I have to try getting WoW running =P
05:11.19Wobinlets get Cedega =P
05:11.30cynyr_okay i'm probably just a noob, but i can't seem to get poisonfu to apply poisons....
05:11.40WobinIt no longer can, I believe =(
05:11.54cynyr_i just ready that... :(
05:12.04Wobinsince there's no ability for dewdrop to apply stuff
05:12.20WobinI'm using 'Poisoner'
05:12.27Wobinwhich is quite small and effective
05:12.30cynyr_hmm i'll look at that
05:12.40Wobinpossibly on wowi, most likely on curse
05:12.57cynyr_Wobin: thats all i want.. no opening my bag and char just to do that every 20-30 minutes
05:13.46Wobinaye, that's why I liked it =) simple and to the point
05:16.53cynyr_cartographer_trainers and whats was the other one that left the svn the otherday?
05:20.11Arrowmastervendors
05:20.41Arrowmasterwho put the highlighting stuff in questfu?
05:21.50cynyr_Wobin: btw wow plays just fine under WINE
05:22.45cynyr_Wobin: just don't need to change video settings in game, you have to eaither do it in the Config.wtf
05:24.33SilverstormWobin, I'm using Chatzilla...built into Firefox
05:25.48cynyr_it's built into FF, i thought it was only a part of seamonkey...
05:26.09SilverstormTools > Chatzilla
05:26.56cynyr_hmm did not know that
05:29.29cynyr_s/like/likes
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05:30.55fatbraincynyr_: why not correct that typo with another substitution? ;)
05:31.19Silverstormit's left as an exercise to the reader
05:31.34fatbrainhehe, beeing not me... :P
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05:34.30cynyr_fatbrain: purl isn't smart to do it recursivly
05:36.37Myrathi~seen Kemayo
05:37.01purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (4d 21h 53m 9s) #wowace (4d 21h 53m 9s). Has said a total of 109 messages. Is idling for 2h 37m 13s, last said: 'Myrathi: Well, you can lock the tablet.  Widening has actually recently become possible, but I don't believe there are menu options for it in FuBar yet.'.
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05:37.51MyrathiKemayo, ping
05:38.06fatbrainWhat inventory/bag replacement mod are you guys using?
05:38.31MyrathiOneBag/Bank/View/Storage
05:38.35SilverstormArkInventory
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05:42.36ckknighthello, friends
05:43.53Silverstormhey ck, I noticed the Mana Looms show in Cart_POI, but Moonwells don't seem to.  Should that be expected?
05:43.57Arrowmasterckknight: was it you that added that highlighting to questfu?
05:44.30Arrowmasterguards will tell you where mana looms are, dont think theyll tell you where moonwells are
05:45.33ckknightSilverstorm: no idea
05:45.41ckknightArrowmaster: I added highlighting
05:45.52ArrowmasterI've got highlighted on me
05:45.58Silverstormok Arrow, thanks
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05:50.53CIA-1703benumbed * r27604 10Epeen/modules/Stats.lua: Epeen - Fixed Small Bug
05:51.31ckknightArrowmaster: hrm?
05:51.34ckknightwhat do you mean?
05:51.37ckknightit highlights your name?
05:51.38Benumbedarrowmaster I think the ones in bc will if it in there town
05:51.52ckknightthat can't really be prevented, as it highlights capitalized words
05:52.00ckknightand special words (directions)
05:52.04Arrowmasterno it highlighted "I've"
05:52.26KemayoMyrathi: You pinged?
05:53.31Benumbedhmm that was for silverstorm, not arrowmaster =x
05:54.09Silverstormok, I haven't looked...just thought of it as I ran past a moonwell and transmuted a cloth
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05:57.38BenumbedI dont think they get added cause afaik (havent checked), you dont get the lil tooltip (moonwell) like you do on mana loom
05:58.10Arrowmastermoonwells have a tooltip
05:58.58Benumbedoh =x
06:04.13Anduneckknight:  sorry if it's a common question..  any idea why when I'm in an instance and bring up map, it shows instance map for 2-5 seconds and then jumps out to world map?
06:04.23ckknightno
06:04.37Andune(cartographer)
06:04.50Andunehmm  must be some other mod screwin with cartographer then.  i'll play around with it..
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06:29.03sbumorning :)
06:31.11ckknightpants are too overbearing
06:31.11ckknightI say we abolish them and move on to kilts
06:31.31chutwigsecretly an exhibitionist, eh
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06:32.53sbuany1 knows if you need to clear opera if you want to go to curator? :/
06:33.52sbuwe have romulo & julianne :/
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06:36.31Silverstormif I know the name of an XML frame, how can I check it's visibility in a /script command?
06:36.44Nargiddleyname:IsVisible()
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06:37.24Silverstormcool, thanks
06:38.01ckknightSilverstorm: use /print
06:38.15Silverstormsweet!  I didn't know that slash command
06:40.47Silverstormnow I can keybind nQL to show or not, until neuron gets that added
06:41.01Nickenyfikenhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6852-Nameplatesmodifier.html <-- hmm i didnt know it was possible to change those
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07:17.49binderthere's gotta be a faster way to level fishing
07:18.41NightHawkTheSanepay someone else to do it for you
07:18.45NightHawkTheSane:P
07:18.55binderI wanna be able to fish motes in nagrand
07:19.16NightHawkTheSaneits not really a great way to get motes of water, i dont think
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07:21.47PProvostCan I play the sound files baked into the game w/out extracting them first? Is there an addressing scheme for getting them?
07:25.28ckknightso I'm thinking that I should work on something
07:25.35ckknightsuch as a good ParserLib
07:25.49nymbiackknight: that'd be pretty awesome
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07:27.04ckknightblah
07:27.06ckknightclosed lid accidentally
07:27.08ckknightnymbia: yea, I think it could be quite useful
07:27.10ckknightand I know the author of MSBT is interested
07:27.27ckknightcause, I mean, I've been working on Cartographer for a while
07:27.36ckknightand it's about as complete as I can get it, the rest is up to third-parties
07:28.28nymbiackknight: it'd certainly make pursuing an ace damagemeter addon a lot more doable
07:28.39PProvostckk... you know you can disable the "standby on close" feature right? :)
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07:29.06ckknightPProvost: I've tried
07:29.14ckknightand frankly, I like standby on close
07:29.18PProvostFair enuff
07:29.23PProvostNo thoughts on my sound question?
07:29.33ckknightPlaySound("name")
07:29.41ckknightdoes an ingame sound
07:30.11PProvostOkay... no path or anything magic then?
07:30.22ckknightnot to my knowledge
07:30.25ckknightfrankly, I don't know
07:30.27Arrowmastertheres a list on wowwiki of different sounds
07:30.54PProvostCool. Thanks.
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07:36.37PProvostBummer... not seeing the voidwalker sounds there... :)
07:37.12ckknightMSBT could be optimized, just by reading it
07:38.16ArrowmasterPProvost: i think you can only do the interface sounds with PlaySound(), you might be able to find the location of the other sounds in the mpq's and use PlaySoundFile()
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07:38.57Kaeltenello
07:39.04PProvostYeah, that is what I was originally asking... how do I address those w/out extracting them? Is there a special path construct?
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07:40.51Beo`Gi`OhQuestion about Bartender3. When I change a skill on bar #1, say Shoot to Attack, it also changes on #2.
07:40.59Beo`Gi`OhSomehow I cloned them. How do I undo that?
07:41.12ckknightshift-mousewheel
07:41.26Beo`Gi`OhNope, I have that unbound.
07:42.49Beo`Gi`OhLogin/out fixed it. Strange.
07:46.33ArrowmasterPProvost: just address them like they are extraced, thats how blizzards mpq stuff has always worked
07:51.08PProvostthx
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07:55.11binderyou can import gatherer database into cartographer?
07:55.51Tupsiyes
07:55.59binderunder what setting?
07:56.11Tupsiyou need an extra import addon
07:56.20binderI thought I grabbed it
07:56.38Tupsinever used it myself though, dont see the need for it
07:56.59binderI have a 3MB gatherer database from flower picking and mining
07:57.13Aenslaedwhile on the topic of gatherer and cartographer, is there a way to share between cartographer and gatherer?
07:58.33nymbiabinder: wow, how is that possible?  i mean.. there can only be a few thousand nodes in the whole game
07:58.39binderit's a combination of all the mining nodes, herbalism nodes and chests I've gotten with it
07:58.49binderand I don't know what format the database is in
07:59.29binder2,973,671
07:59.35binder2.83MB sorry
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08:00.11ZealotOnAStickWhen I converted my old gatherer data to cartographer, the carto files were under 1/4 the size.
08:00.53ckknightZealotOnAStick: I don't doubt it
08:01.01ckknightCartographer's storage system is very efficient
08:01.09ckknightespecially for Herbs and Minerals
08:01.30binderhow do you convert?
08:01.41ZealotOnAStickI used a perl script to do it.
08:01.55ZealotOnAStickprobably still in the cartographer thread somewhere on the forum.
08:02.05nymbia3 megs though.. there's gotta be some unused old data floating around in there
08:02.26bindermaybe it uses the berkley db format :P
08:03.01binderremember changing stuff in sendmail?
08:03.06ZealotOnAStickStores the data with token ring keys.
08:03.16binderI miss sendmail, anyone else feel the way I do?
08:03.28ckknightpostfix ftw?
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08:03.31binderhad the greatest config ever
08:03.33binderlol yea
08:03.59binderthe reason I switched to postfix was cyrus imap+ldap
08:04.13ckknightMikord's parsing system is very nice, all in all
08:04.17ckknightit could be optimized
08:04.22ckknightbut it's a good structure.
08:04.40bindercartographer should run a lightweight postgres
08:04.46ckknight:-P
08:05.25binderwith lootlink and auctioneer
08:05.40binderI give 350MB to addons
08:07.12ckknighthonestly, it would be awesome if we were given something like SQLite to store data with
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08:12.54binderflatfile databasing ftw
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08:14.34mitch0'lo
08:14.45binderfidgewidget's autocrafter or whatever
08:14.49binderneeds an update
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08:16.15neeneewhy not use Stitch?
08:16.32neeneeer, StitchUI that is
08:16.41neeneehi mitch0
08:16.43bindernot sure
08:16.53binderI'm just discovering the wide world of ace slowly
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08:16.57neeneeoki
08:16.58binderhad used autobar forever
08:17.04neeneeStitchUI is very similar
08:17.09neeneeautobar has an Ace version too
08:17.17binderI'm using that
08:17.21binderit's the only updated one
08:17.24neeneeoki
08:17.26neenee:)
08:18.03binderbefore the last change, i was using nurfedui with RDX, bigwigs and vendetta
08:18.32neeneeah :)
08:18.37neeneeI used nurfed a long time ag
08:18.38neenee*ago
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08:20.32binderI miss the old nurfed bars
08:20.38binderI'm back to using blizzard bars
08:20.47neeneeconsider bartender3
08:20.55binderwell
08:20.58evli use the defaults :)
08:20.59binderwith the old nurfed bars
08:21.09binderit used the same bindings
08:21.23binderas blizzard ui, so if I went somewhere that didn't have nurfed I could still play
08:21.37neeneeAh I see
08:21.43neeneeYou could bring your interface with you?
08:22.05binderif I hop on a friend's comp
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08:27.48yacoobhttp://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=1310 teh drama!
08:32.20neeneeWell, I agree with the bit where the author should just be clear to the users.
08:34.03CIA-1703fatherjim * r27609 10loudmouth/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
08:34.03CIA-17loudmouth:
08:34.03CIA-17- Latest beta code for testers.
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08:42.55CIA-17PeriodicTable-3.0:
08:42.55CIA-17- Add Underspore Pod (28112)
08:43.07chuckgI wonder if my macros are still around for DAB.
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08:45.10chuckghttp://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=DAB&msgnum=351
08:45.12chuckgWoo my thread lives.
08:45.15chuckg24k views almost!
08:46.35CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27611 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-enUS.lua Manufac.lua):
08:46.35CIA-17Manufac:
08:46.36CIA-17- Instead of 'Cast' lines on items for professions that arent open, make a line to open that profession. WTB a better tradeskilling API so this isn't necessary.
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08:53.34mitch0_'lo again
08:54.01[Ammo]morning
08:56.25[Ammo]hmm would it help if [Ruby Slippers] http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28585 was added to PT3 as hearthstone option :)
08:56.30[Ammo]it's instantcast hearthstone :)
09:00.44neeneeAre you sure it's instant-cast?
09:01.02neeneeThe comments mention 'The cast time is 10 seconds'
09:01.15neeneeOh, but others mention it is instant
09:03.09NightHawkTheSane10s cast
09:03.09NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.thottbot.com/?sp=8690
09:03.17NightHawkTheSaneat least according to thott
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09:07.07[Ammo]I am sure it's instnat
09:07.10[Ammo]I got it last night
09:07.15[Ammo]click -> poof
09:07.35[Ammo]shares cooldown with hearthstone
09:08.56Aenslaedit is instant
09:09.35[Ammo]I had hoped I could set it to a different town from my hearthstone
09:09.37[Ammo]but no....
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09:09.51evlIs there a way/addon to automatically turn on find minerals when I revive?
09:10.33NightHawkTheSanenot without a hardware event. which means you're really no better off than just putting find minerals on an action button
09:11.05evlproblem is I keep forgetting it
09:11.30evli was thinking since I'm OOC, can't I rebind my move-forward key to find minerals and rebind it after it's activated?
09:11.36NightHawkTheSanenope
09:11.48NightHawkTheSanethey nerfed that a number of patches ago
09:12.28evlokay, no other way around than a physical interaction
09:12.51NightHawkTheSanethere might be addons that plaster a big sign/window/button/whatever on your screen if you dont have a tracking up
09:14.10Beo`Gi`OhIs there a vendor that sells potions?
09:14.24NightHawkTheSaneevl: http://files.wowace.net/FinderReminder/FinderReminder-r26541.zip might be what you want
09:16.34evlnice thanks :)
09:17.19CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27612 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
09:17.19CIA-17Manufac:
09:17.19CIA-17- Various "click to cache data" style lines in the dewdrop -- these should only come up when the player's WDB cache has just been reset.
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09:19.28abbat_wMorning guys
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09:19.47abbat_wAnyone uses cyCircled and Onyx: Glossy square skin?
09:20.06abbat_wI have problem with equipped items with this skin
09:20.33abbat_wWon't show equipped items as bt3 do it w/o skin mod
09:24.21neeneeHm. You have your equipped items on a bar?
09:28.08Gastro[2007/02/09 10:26:42-178-x1]: Mendeleev-1.0\Mendeleev.lua:101: attempt to index global 'PeriodicTableEmbed' (a nil value)
09:28.09abbat_wYep
09:28.10GastroAceAddon-2.0-26427 (Ace2):455: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:432>
09:28.11Gastro<in C code>: ?
09:28.14GastroAceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):320: in function `TriggerEvent'
09:28.16neeneeabbat_w: Why?
09:28.49abbat_wneenee, i have a bar with trinkets. And just switch trinkets with bar. BT3 w/o any skins show equipped item with green border and highlight
09:28.56neeneeAh I see
09:29.03abbat_wBut if i use cyCircled i can't see what is equipped ;(
09:29.15neeneeI use DreamLayout and it shows the green border/highlight too
09:29.22abbat_wyep
09:29.43abbat_wBut with cyCircled no more borders ;(
09:29.49neenee:|
09:29.59neeneePerhaps it's too aggressive in how it displays/applies the skin
09:30.00CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27613 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
09:30.00CIA-17Manufac:
09:30.00CIA-17- Fixes to sub-mat menus
09:30.04neeneeBut I do not know how to remedy that
09:31.15abbat_wI look at src code, this mod have 'equipped' parameter with own texture. I try to change to another but something wrong and i see nothing changes ;)
09:33.45neenee:)
09:35.21CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27614 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
09:35.21CIA-17Manufac:
09:35.21CIA-17- Fixed Mouse positioning.
09:39.23CIA-1703nargiddley 07alpha * r27615 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Added treeLevels option, limits the number of levels the tree will have when fed from an options table.
09:43.23CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27616 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
09:43.23CIA-17Manufac:
09:43.23CIA-17- Rearranged _OPEN event handlerts to be graceful when the player's clicking around on profession action buttons while keeping the same one's dewdrop open
09:46.30binderfishing levels the same in any zone still right?
09:46.51Arrowmasteri got 3 levels in stv the other week
09:46.54Arrowmasterso yeah i think
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09:47.35nymbiacorrect binder
09:47.44nymbiahigher levels just require more catches
09:48.17Arrowmasterit was a pita to get to 300 in the first place
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09:48.39neeneeI still need to get to 300
09:48.48neeneeBut that nice +20 fishing rod from Shattrath is very nice ;)
09:49.17Arrowmasteri need to go do the fishing contest again, need to put +5 fishing on my +35 rod
09:50.28nymbiathat damn line was harder to get than the pole for me
09:50.32binder~use the one from hinterlands?
09:51.25Arrowmasterpole was perty damn hard to get for me, that was until patch 2.0.1 came around
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09:51.37NightHawkTheSanebinder: alliance dont have one from the hinterlands, to be sure :P
09:51.38binderwait, a 35?
09:51.44Arrowmasteryeah from fishing contest
09:51.48nymbiacourse i did the contest back when it first came out so it was swarmed.. but it took 3 months or so to get a win, and another month past that to get the line
09:52.08neeneeI want to get that pole too
09:52.12neeneeI'll try to do the contest soonish
09:52.15binderleveling fishing used to be easier
09:52.20binderor it was on myu other toons
09:52.28binderI'd fish AV
09:52.41Arrowmasteri won the contest directly after the 2.0.1 patch, didnt run into anybody else when i was out there because everybody was pvping
09:53.11nymbiabinder: i'm pretty sure the skillup rate's the same as it's always been.. although there was one short period where it was bugged to be too hard
09:53.55evlAny url to upcoming patch notes?
09:54.01Arrowmasteri got from 300 to like 303-304 in about 20-30 minutes of doing the fishing contest
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09:54.21binderI wonder what you need to fish nagrand
09:54.36Arrowmaster380 or something i think
09:54.42nymbiaArrowmaster: wow, lucky.  i havent been out there in a long, long while, but i imagine it's pretty deserted.. used to be hundreds of people... second a node spawned there'd be 4 people trying to get a fish out of it
09:55.03NightHawkTheSanebinder: 380, according to cart :P
09:55.08Arrowmasternymbia: went back the next week and it was crouded again
09:55.22nymbiabinder: 380 for everywhere except sunspring lake, which requires 430 iirc
09:55.25binderhow do I see that? :P
09:55.35Arrowmastercart should show it
09:55.52NightHawkTheSaneI think its part of the core, too. zone notes or wahtever?
09:55.55binderjus topen the map?
09:55.58nymbiaif you have the ZoneInfo module enabled yeah
09:56.40binderi have it enabled
09:56.51binderwhere does it say that kind of stuff?
09:57.03Arrowmastermouseover the zone on the continent map
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10:04.25neeneeThat didn't work for me some weeks ago
10:04.57neeneeDoes anyone know of the Shadow Altar - the place to create shadowcloth is guarded? Is it easy to get to?
10:12.19neeneeokay, apparently near level 70 is preferred because of the mobs near it
10:13.13nymbianeenee: you can get there as something as low as 60, you just might die a couple times
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10:19.42neeneenymbia: But that's the case for every place I think, apart from instances :D
10:20.10nymbianeenee: fair enough.  i'd say it's worth it to get your cooldown started though
10:22.29NightHawkTheSanewhat's the cd on shadowcloth, 4 days?
10:22.38nymbiayeah
10:22.54NightHawkTheSaneeh, i guess a corpse run every 4 days isnt too bad :P
10:24.53neeneeNightHawkTheSane: I can't do it yet, nor will I choose that specialization, but my girlfriend (warlock) asked about how easy it would be to get there (in one piece) :)
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10:25.50CIA-1703nevcairiel * r27618 10HotCandy/ (Core.lua HotCandy.toc): HotCandy: updated .toc and version number
10:25.57NightHawkTheSaneneenee: ahh, well i was just commenting on how worth itd be to use the cooldown.
10:28.33neeneeNightHawkTheSane: Okidoki :)
10:28.42CIA-1703nevcairiel * r27619 10HotCandy/ (Anchor.lua Core.lua HotCandy.toc): HotCandy: svn keywords
10:31.45CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27620 10Manufac/Manufac/ (4 files):
10:31.45CIA-17Manufac:
10:31.45CIA-17- Recategorized Mercurial Stone in defaults.
10:31.45CIA-17- Added another cache check.
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10:36.49mitch0_can I access the SVN repo via HTTPS?
10:37.59HealthIgnore Kalroth! He loves cosmos
10:38.25KalrothAt least I'm not Health!
10:40.32mitch0_seems not :(
10:42.14CIA-1703nevcairiel * r27621 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: some last fixes
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10:44.36Adirelle|workhi there
10:44.50mitch0any of the dev.wowace.com admins around?
10:45.03Kaelten_mitch0: sup?
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10:45.34mitch0I'd like to reach the repo via https, 'cos I'm @work and our shitty firewall borks on WebDAV requests
10:45.50KaeltenI don't have https setup on the server :(
10:46.01mitch0would it be hard to set up? :)
10:46.17Kaeltenhonestly I have no clue
10:46.17mitch0isn't it apache?
10:46.17KaeltenI havn't ever set up one before.
10:46.51nevcairielhttps in general isnt hard, but i dont know how well it would work with the svn
10:46.52Kalrothmitch0: Can't you use a SOCKS proxy or just VPN to your home computer?
10:47.05nevcairielaltho my svn setup had a sample https config for webdav :D
10:47.06[Ammo]we use https svn at work
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10:47.46mitch0Kalroth: well, if all else fails, I could do that, but I'd probly have some problems with externals and such.
10:48.17KaeltenI know that you can do https svn I  just don't know how to set it up
10:48.27mitch0I'll try some tunneling...
10:48.27Kalrothhttp://www.webdav.org/other/proxy.html :)
10:48.29Adirelle|workmitch0: SSH tunnel + Putty with "dynamic forwarding" (aka SOCSK4 proxying through SSH)
10:48.39KalrothYup
10:48.49KalrothPutty + Squid at home should do the trick, it seems
10:50.36CIA-1703wmrojer * r27622 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (TradeskillInfoUI.lua TradeskillInfoUI.toc):
10:50.36CIA-17TradeskillInfoUI :
10:50.36CIA-17- More error checks.
10:50.36CIA-17- Updated toc with official wowace thread
10:51.37CIA-1703wmrojer * r27623 10TradeskillInfo/ (TradeskillData.lua TradeskillInfo.toc):
10:51.38CIA-17TradeskillInfo :
10:51.38CIA-17- Fixed some recipes.
10:51.38CIA-17- Added a missing component
10:51.38CIA-17- Updated toc with wowace forum thread
10:52.40nevcairielclad|sleep: there you go, i uploaded it to WoWI
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10:53.38abbat_wGuys, anyone have expirience with cyCircled? I have a problem with Onyx skin, 'equipped' won't work properly. Maybe someone have solution for this?
10:54.16mitch0hrmp, fist tunnel attempt failed :(
10:54.18mitch0svn: PROPFIND of '/sandbox/trunk/SpellCaster': 403 Forbidden (http://localhost:9080)
10:55.42neenee:|
10:57.10CIA-1703nargiddley 07alpha * r27624 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Now supports confirm option of AceOption tables
10:57.11Adirelle|workis there no way to define a socks4 proxy for svn ?
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10:58.01Adirelle|work'cause the svn maybe an virtual host, and if you use "localhost" as host part, the SVN server may deny access
10:58.33abbat_wwtb sairen
11:02.24mitch0tryiing other sort of tunneling...
11:02.41mitch0TADA!
11:02.49mitch0it's in sandbox, phew
11:05.48CIA-1703mitchell * r27625 10SpellCaster/ (9 files):
11:05.48CIA-17SpellCaster
11:05.48CIA-17- Initial commit [DRYCODED]
11:06.08mitch0there. take a look if you're bored :)
11:06.27Hjaltemitch0: What does it do? :)
11:06.53mitch0see README :)
11:07.13mitch0most useful functionality at the moment is RangeCheck, but it works for mages only atm
11:07.21mitch0at least it's limited for other classes
11:07.49mitch0SpellCaster is just a leftover name from my original addon that did a lot of nice stuff that all broke in 2.0 :)
11:08.05sbiO_O
11:08.16mitch0but it has nice OO stuff inside ;)
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11:12.14CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27626 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
11:12.14CIA-17Manufac:
11:12.14CIA-17- Fix some grouping oddnesses when viewing the same profession on two different characters
11:14.16CIA-1703teshnor * r27627 10FuBar_WindFuryFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
11:14.16CIA-17FuBar_WindFuryFu:
11:14.16CIA-17- A couple of bufixes for localization issues
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11:17.09CIA-17Babble-2.2:
11:17.09CIA-17- Babble-Boss-2.2 : Update locals koKR
11:20.48sbii farted :|
11:22.13neeneeI'm glad I'm not near you then
11:22.59CIA-1703ammo * r27629 10Necronomicon2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Necronomicon2: drycoded fixes for soulshard destroying, summon and soulstone module
11:24.58sbineenee, i wish i was far too :|
11:25.12CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27630 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
11:25.12CIA-17Manufac:
11:25.12CIA-17- Fix finding profession name of the open menu if the tradeskill has been closed
11:25.41CIA-1703nargiddley 07alpha * r27631 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Added width setting to AddControl for all control types except label and heading
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11:29.56mitch0woops :) wrong window
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11:35.11neeneeCan anyone confirm that fishing skill can be increased in any area and that the amount of catches needed to level up only depends on the current skill level and not on the area you are in?
11:35.36abbat_wi can confirm
11:35.43neeneehuzzah
11:35.53neeneeThen I can just fish outside Exodar for instance to 300 :)
11:36.08neeneeNo need to go to a high-level place with lots of Horde
11:36.12abbat_wyou can fishing in OG before BG hall and got 300 skill
11:36.36nymbiaskill up in wailing caverns imo
11:36.36abbat_wdon't try 300 -> 375
11:36.46neeneeoki
11:36.57nymbiadeviate fish = win
11:37.15abbat_wYeah, you can fish in WC for deviate
11:37.31abbat_wOr you can fish in Nagrand (nice looking area) ;)
11:37.52abbat_wBut i think you need to skill up cooking with fishing
11:38.03abbat_wAnd you need to change fishing locations then
11:38.14nymbiaman.. cookings so easy compared to fishing
11:38.35nymbiai'm 313 fishing and from just those 13 points
11:38.35neenee:)
11:38.41nymbiamy cooking is 365
11:39.19nymbiacourse i'll need crawdads to get to 375 but i'll be making a ton of them anyway
11:39.23abbat_wskill up fishing is a pain ;)
11:39.30nymbiavery much so
11:39.48abbat_wbtw you can fish motes of water in Zangarmarsh
11:40.13nymbiazangarmarsh?  i thought it was just nagrand
11:41.51nevcairielzanga and nagrand
11:42.41abbat_wHeh
11:43.17abbat_wBlizzard add talbuk recipe into game. In nagrand you got a 2 quests to kill talbuks. Nice quests to skill up skinning/cooking now ;)
11:44.49sbinagrand >
11:44.49sbibest zone :)
11:45.28sbithere's even a grat chain quest givin you a 50+dam&heal +spellhit +spellcrit head :)
11:45.58abbat_wHmm...
11:46.04abbat_wDon't see this quest
11:46.22sbiabbat_w, you need to clear all quests in nagrand first
11:46.24GngskBuying Time
11:46.34abbat_wi have t2.5 head w/ ZG enchant and won't change it ;)
11:46.36sbithan you hava to speak to the grandmother and you are sent to thrall :)
11:46.49Azurewrathabbat_w: the Quest Helm is better.
11:46.54abbat_wOh...
11:47.05abbat_wWhich name on this head? Someone remember?
11:47.20sbiabbat_w, i'll link you, wait a mom
11:47.26AzurewrathMag'hari Ritualist's Horns
11:47.39abbat_wheh
11:47.47Azurewrathwearing it with the Sha'tar Revered Enchant on my Mage atm.
11:47.48sbiabbat_w, http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59177
11:47.51abbat_wSounds like head from Nef ;)
11:47.52Azurewrathdumped T2,5 for it
11:47.59sbiAzurewrath, same here :)
11:48.10abbat_woh
11:48.16abbat_wmuch better then t2.5
11:48.28sbiabbat_w, y, great blue :)
11:48.42sbiabbat_w, it has a nice look too :)
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11:49.18abbat_wdamn... i spend much time for got my t2.5 from twins ;)
11:49.28abbat_wAnd now quest reward is better
11:51.24AzurewrathThink about that you were able to fight the Twins and how it felt when you did the first kill with your Guild.. and C'thun after that.. who cares about items
11:51.40sbi:D
11:52.22abbat_w;)
11:52.23abbat_wyep
11:52.28abbat_wloot is nothing
11:53.11sbiwell, i'll have your purplez then :P
11:54.07abbat_wI think i do all this quests today and got it ;)
11:54.19Azurewrathah well.. i wouldn't say nothing... it's just that i don't care if i have to replace them
11:54.21KalrothFirst C'Thun kill was pretty nice :)
11:54.23sbiabbat_w, you need a group for few steps btw
11:54.28abbat_wit's ok
11:54.36KalrothPatchwerk and Thaddius too :)
11:54.49abbat_wWe don't kill C'Thun. Stop aq40 at Twins and TBC was released
11:54.55sbilord serpentis too! oh wait.. no..
11:55.08abbat_wNaxx just spider wing + Instructor
11:55.15Kalrothsbi: WC ftw!
11:55.43sbiinstructor was a bit frustrating to me :|
11:56.07KalrothSeriously?
11:56.35sbiKaelten, y, i was in a strange guild and... it was something like "wipe til we get some priest get how it works"
11:56.41sbinot funny :|
11:57.06Kalrothoi, I'm not Kaelten, I'm more elite than him!  
11:57.12sbisorry :|
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11:57.26sbiKalroth, lol
11:57.32Kalroth:P
11:57.43NightHawkTheSanemeh, they both begin with Ka, autocomplete ftw :P
11:57.48KalrothAnd yes, we had a few wipes before our priests got a clue ;)
11:59.42abbat_whttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31104
11:59.42abbat_wHeh ;)
11:59.42abbat_wLooks like Horns but design is t2 ;)
12:00.27vhaarrIt's a quest reward from Shadowmoon Valley.
12:00.35abbat_wYeah
12:00.40abbat_wBut Horns better ;)
12:00.51sbiabbat_w, seems so
12:01.02sbired slots > blue ones
12:01.04sbi:|
12:01.38nymbiapurple gems ftw ;p
12:01.48abbat_wBut i think i must get this too. Can you gather nether vortexes with this head?
12:01.57KalrothNope?
12:02.06vhaarrNo.
12:02.37KalrothThey're an uncommon drop in 25 man raids
12:02.39vhaarrIt's not invisibility detection.
12:02.49vhaarrKalroth: You can farm them in SV.
12:03.02KalrothNether Vortex? :p
12:03.12abbat_wOnly in Shadowmoon, not?
12:03.22vhaarrerr
12:03.24KalrothSince when do they drop in Steamvault, heroic or not :)
12:03.24vhaarrI mean those vents.
12:03.35abbat_wAnd if you have engeneer head which allow you to see vortexes
12:03.47vhaarrOr you're a warlock with detect invis.
12:04.04KalrothYou mean the air stuff, yes?
12:04.07vhaarryeah
12:04.11KalrothNether Vortex = http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30183 :)
12:04.14abbat_wI never see one of them ;)
12:04.16sbistill i didn't get how this engineering thing works
12:04.16vhaarraha
12:04.17KalrothYou mean the gas clouds
12:04.22vhaarry
12:04.39Kalrothor nether cloud, poison cloud, etc.
12:04.54nymbiathose are just motes arent they
12:04.56evlBS is bullshit :D
12:04.57evlfittingly
12:05.02Kalrothyup nymbia
12:05.16abbat_wwait i show you something ;)
12:05.20evlfor rogues the only item is Dirge, which is a pissy one hander that requires 8 Primal Nether.
12:05.36nymbiaprimal nether are easy
12:06.14nymbiawe've been doing heroics with like 2 alchemists, 2 engis, and a smith
12:06.16Kalrothprimal nether is a friggin pain, only way to get them is farming heroic instances or getting _really_ lucky in normal instances
12:06.19abbat_whttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30318
12:06.21abbat_wthis head
12:06.25nymbiaso the smith is loaded with nethers
12:06.36abbat_wah, arcane vortexes
12:06.39abbat_wNot nether
12:06.42vhaarr:P
12:07.01abbat_wEquip: Allows detection of objects that are slightly out of phase such as the arcane vortexes of netherstorm.
12:07.01abbat_wUse: Allows you to look far into the distance.
12:07.06nymbiathat's to see more mote clouds
12:07.21abbat_wnymbia, do you try this head?
12:07.32nymbiaabbat_w: read the comments
12:07.36KalrothArcane Clouds just gives you mana, apparently :)
12:07.54sylvanaargood morning
12:07.59neeneemorning
12:08.06Kalrothaha
12:08.12KalrothAnd motes of mana :P
12:08.18abbat_wKalroth, you can extract motes rom cloud
12:08.28KalrothEasier to farm them then
12:08.42Kalrothalso
12:08.43Kalroth"The goggles only provides the "tracking" of the motes on your minimap... you can see the motes without the goggles just fine."
12:09.42Kalrothoh, that was bs too ><
12:11.52Kalrothhttp://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2194651.html *ick*
12:12.43CIA-1703rabbit * r27633 10BugSack/BugSack.xml: BugSack: Forgot to uncomment this at the last commit.
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12:21.41evlPlayers with multiple chat windows will no longer have fixed channels (ie. general, trade) added back to the main chat window every time they log on.
12:21.46evlhallefuckinluja
12:24.36evlAny mod that can display the number of charges left on a temp weapon buff like instant etc?
12:26.35abbat_wtbc items all 100+ lvl?
12:27.17nymbiaabbat_w: everything you'll see at level 70 is
12:27.19Azurewraththe epics yes.. at least from Karazhan
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12:27.40Azurewraththe blueish lvl 70 drops are around ~110-115
12:28.20nymbiamy 3 KZ epics so far are ilvl 95, 100, and 105, all my blues are 115ish
12:29.30Azurewraththe ilvls are fucked anyway in some way.. every single epic ring i've seen so far is worse than my Ring of the Fallen God.. and that one is 'only' 88
12:29.33Athouis there a way to set the focus frame on my target using a script (not a macro)?
12:30.30nymbiaAthou: no, intentionally. addons cannot change target or focus automatically.
12:30.49Athou:(
12:32.29nevcairielthe itemlevel is kinda weird. is there any system behind it which i dont see?
12:32.40nevcairielblues higher then epix .. dunno :)
12:32.52nymbianevcairiel: yeah, there's a formula
12:33.06RLD_osxsome greens are better than epic
12:33.32nymbiagreens are higher still, they're in the 120s
12:35.17kenlyricnot "better"... higher level.
12:35.32nymbiayup
12:35.37kenlyricepics get significantly more itemization points than greens of the same level.
12:36.50RLD_osxitemization points?  would you enlighten someone who is not quite there yet?
12:37.12CIA-1703pneumatus * r27634 10ClassLoot/ (ClassLoot.lua ClassLoot.toc):
12:37.12CIA-17ClassLoot:
12:37.12CIA-17- Code tidy
12:37.19kenlyricitem level, rarity level, and equip location are the primary factors in how stat points are distributed.
12:37.45kenlyricRLD_osx: I don't know if that's the proper term, but every stat an item has comes from a limited pool of "points" each item has.
12:38.14kenlyricand not all stats are created equal... +healing is cheaper than +damage/healing, stamina is cheaper than int, etc.
12:38.48RLD_osxhmmmm
12:39.13nevcairielare those forumals somewhere documented? like reverse engineered and on wowwiki ? :D
12:39.20KalrothYup
12:39.57kenlyricI'm sure they must be. that's where I learned to translate +healing and spirit and mana/5s to realize you really get the shaft when you get mana/5s :)
12:40.05Kalrothnevcairiel: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Item_Values
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12:41.14kenlyricmeh, I seriously can't find this lower city quartermaster. Everyone is telling me he's by the inn.
12:41.24RLD_osxI've noticed that some of the jewelry made by low lvl players is almost better than some of the mid lvl greens. and will disenchant to higher lvl mats about 25% more than those same greens.
12:41.24KalrothHe isn't
12:41.44Kalrothkenlyric: He's in the south end, near the Scryer quarter
12:42.09KalrothIf you know where the rotten egg quest guy is, then he's right there
12:42.33kenlyricwow, they just hid him right away didn"t they :)
12:42.53kenlyricawesome, I can buy... shadow protection...
12:43.05nymbialol
12:43.09KalrothGrats!
12:43.42Kalrothhe actually got some nice items; http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21655
12:43.46HealthDon't try to be cool Kalroth!
12:43.58kenlyricat honored he's got nothin.
12:44.00KalrothI already said that I'm too elite though
12:44.30kenlyricoooh, revered!
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13:02.07sbii allready did exalted!
13:02.11sbi:E
13:02.31kenlyricit's goping to be mind-numbing enough to grind to revereed.
13:02.49sbiuhm not that much :E
13:03.23sbicenarion expedition is even easier btw
13:03.34kenlyricI don't see any more quests. So either it's an RRQ I haven't found yet, or it's running instances over and over and over.
13:03.44kenlyricyeah, I'm only 2000 from revered in CE without trying.
13:04.28sbikenlyric, scryers quest's in shadowm/netherstorm than signets
13:04.30KalrothCE was the first faction I hit revered with
13:04.44kenlyricsbi: what would that have to do with lower city?
13:04.49Kalroththere's a ton of quests out there, it's easy to hit revered with quests + 2-3 coilfang runs
13:04.56sbilc? oh
13:05.12vhaarrI'm revered/exalted with every new faction except Ashtongue Deathsworn and The Consortium, and I'm not even human.
13:05.23sbivhaarr, :D
13:05.32kenlyricand with scryer/aldor, that's a mind numbing RRQ grind.
13:05.32[Ammo]vhaarr: neutral with netherwing as well?
13:05.34TupsiWhy are you still talking in here Kalroth? Fix the progression chart you slacker!
13:05.41vhaarr[Ammo]: obviously
13:05.41Kalrothvhaarr: Stop living in instances
13:05.44KalrothTupsi: Eeep.
13:05.49Tupsihehe
13:05.54[Ammo]living in instances is cool
13:05.54sbivhaarr, how do you get the quest from the ashtongue leader in shadowmoon ( the one which is in the hidden cage ) ?
13:05.59vhaarrIt just goes to show how fast you get rep if you try.
13:06.01Tupsi<-- Vaxxus btw
13:06.09KalrothAh :p
13:06.11kenlyricI'm not even thinking much about reputation yet. Just trying to get my kharazan key.
13:06.23Tupsiso you can group my teasing to the usual crap now
13:06.32kenlyricvhaar... yes, but grinding the same thing over and over is horribly boring :)
13:06.35vhaarrsbi: You must do some prequests, I don't remember, but you must talk to that guy outside and kill some demon.
13:06.39kenlyricI'd much rather have quests to do to get me rep.
13:06.46Punkie`ammo, code me an ingame gnome tamagotchi dammit!
13:07.09sbivhaarr, yay ,i have a quest saying i have to speak to him, but he's not talking :| maybe i have to hit friendly first?
13:07.09KalrothI'm actually only here to stalk the author of ag_UnitFames or sRaidFrames or FuBar :p
13:07.18[Ammo]Punkie`: sod off
13:07.31vhaarrsbi: I don't think so.
13:07.37sbivhaarr, :(
13:07.44sbivhaarr, he hates me then!
13:07.45HealthKalroth: The hawaiian dude is asleep!
13:08.01KalrothHawaiians sleep too?
13:08.03Tupsikal: what for?
13:08.18HealthKalroth needs to get laid, that's why.
13:08.21Tupsihmm and sframes never tried that so far
13:08.32Tupsihealth: he always does, what else is realy NEW?
13:08.36vhaarrKalroth: Why would you stalk them?
13:08.41Kalrothvhaarr: I'm a stalker.
13:09.05HealthSmart.
13:09.08Tupsivharr: nah, in fact he is a slacker who needs to update our progression chart!
13:09.16KalrothWell that and because I got a weird FuBar error in ag_UnitFrames when I try to right click the sRaidFrames minimap button. :)
13:09.30Kalroth(And no, I don't have FuBar installed :)
13:09.35vhaarrKalroth: Perhaps you could just tell me, then.
13:10.05KalrothWell that's the problem, I'm stuck at work atm, I don't have the exact error message, but uhmmm,
13:10.12kenlyricprogression chart? what are you progressing through?
13:10.17Kalrothit's line 958 in FuBar plugin in ag_UnitFrames!
13:10.20vhaarrKalroth: Then noone can help you.
13:10.38Kalrothvhaarr: Hence I'm stalking.
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13:11.15vhaarrLine 958 is a blank newline, there's no text in it.
13:11.15Tupsiwhy would you have use for a fubar plugin from ag when not using it at all?
13:11.30nevcairielmaybe thats whats wrong with it :D
13:11.36Tupsiowned!
13:11.42Kalrothvhaarr: You're in the wrong file then :p
13:11.51vhaarrKalroth: No, you're giving me crappy details.
13:11.51nevcairielyou can use the fubar plugin as a minimap icon
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13:11.56Tupsithe newfile turned evil in itself
13:12.05Kalrothvhaarr: But you're asking for the wrong things!
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13:12.11HealthThis is getting rough.
13:12.16vhaarr^^
13:12.21sbicalm down guys ^^
13:12.21nevcairielhe shouldnt have to ask :D
13:12.29Tupsihealth: you like it rough
13:12.29kenlyricfor some reason the old fubar plugin is still in the SVN, even though a fubar plugin is build in now.
13:12.33Kalrothit's the fubar plugin in ag_unitgames - \libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua
13:12.37HealthI sure do.
13:12.45Kalrothline 958 begins with Dewdrop:Register(self:GetFrame(),
13:12.48Tupsihealth: but you are right, these guys here most likely dont know our sense of humour yet
13:12.54Stephmwwheeee, my raid array bits have arrived
13:12.58Stephmwwhatch everyone at work go "WTF are you gonna do with that?"
13:13.27vhaarrKalroth: And what version of agUF is this?
13:13.29Kalrothvhaarr: In that Dewdrop:Register() method I get an error that says something like "name can't be nil"
13:13.32KalrothLatest
13:13.38KalrothI updated it uhmmm, ~9 hours ago
13:13.41neeneeI use that ag_UF too
13:13.49neeneeno problems though, but I do use Fubar
13:13.50nevcairielprobably not a bug in agUF
13:13.55HealthHe's from denmark, take it easy.
13:13.56nevcairieljust some addon causing an error
13:13.59KalrothDo you use sRaidFrames and not FuBar? :)
13:14.01nevcairieland that instance is the current one
13:14.34KalrothWell if I comment that code out, nevcairiel, then it breaks sRaidFrames :)
13:14.46Kalrothso ag_UnitFrames isn't entirely innocent ;)
13:15.20nevcairielit has nothing todo with agUF
13:15.27nevcairielonly agUF is the first addon being loaded
13:15.36nevcairieland its copy of Dewdrop stays in the memory
13:15.41CIA-1703mitchell * r27636 10SpellCaster/:
13:15.41CIA-17SpellCaster
13:15.41CIA-17- updated svn:ignore
13:15.41vhaarrKalroth: You're on crack, there's no such code in agUF.
13:15.49Kalrothvhaarr: uhm, I just downloaded it
13:15.57vhaarrKalroth: From where?
13:15.59Kalrothhttp://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.zip
13:16.28Kalroth\libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua
13:16.31vhaarrheh
13:16.34vhaarrThat's NOT agUF.
13:16.36[Ammo]Kalroth: it is some other addon you have that uses fubarplugin
13:16.48[Ammo]Kalroth: blaming agUF  is silly
13:16.53KalrothI know that, but the ingame error comes from ag_UF :)  
13:16.58vhaarr...
13:17.03abbat_w;)
13:17.06kenlyricag should rename it to ZG_unitframes
13:17.16KalrothThat it's actually ACE that fucks up is kinda hard to see just from that :p
13:17.25kenlyriclet some other mod author take all the abuse
13:17.28*** kick/#wowace [Kalroth!n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (It's "Ace".)
13:17.28HealthMmm. Capital ACE.
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13:17.33kenlyricomg, he said the evil words!
13:17.40kenlyriccall it "tickles"
13:17.41KalrothThat it's actually Ace. that fucks up is kinda hard to see just from that :p
13:17.43KalrothThere? :)
13:17.53kenlyricACE ACE ACE ACE tickles!
13:17.56[Ammo]it's not even Ace that is doing it
13:18.04neeneeHm.
13:18.05[Ammo]it's one of your addons using the dewdrop library wrong
13:18.16[Ammo]blame the author of that addon
13:18.20neeneeTo me you're just arguing where the blame lies, which isn't too productive.
13:18.33[Ammo]the blame lies with one of his addons
13:18.35[Ammo]not with the library
13:18.36Punkiebtw, what's so good about 'Dongle' :S
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13:18.44Kalroth[Ammo]: Yes. The error message says the error originates from ag_UF. Now tell me what addon I should blame?
13:18.47kenlyricbecause people don't every say DONGLE
13:18.52vhaarrPunkie: Why don't you try it and find out.
13:19.00mitch0can someone check how the range is formatted in tooltips for hunter shots that have a minimum range?
13:19.00Punkiebecause my brain is too small :S
13:19.09kenlyricKalroth, you could possibly learn how embedded libs work, first.
13:19.13neeneekenlyric: Because it's too long a word to likely be an acryonym
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13:19.41Kalrothkenlyric: Yup, that's my responsibility if I want to report errors.
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13:19.59kenlyricsome basic understanding of how things work? Yes.
13:20.33KalrothLots of good advice there, I guess you can tell me which addon the error is from then? :)
13:20.37cynyrokay i have a small problem with WAU, i have about 25-30 ACE addons in my folder, and it sees 3....
13:20.39KalrothI thought so.
13:20.58neeneeKalroth: You should wait for a reply when asking a question.
13:20.59kenlyricdoes perl have something for taint?
13:21.01nevcairielwithout the exact error, we cant.
13:21.10Kalrothneenee: A reply wasn't needed in this case.
13:21.27Punkiewhy don't you turn some mods off and try? ¬_¬
13:21.35neeneeKalroth: Then the question was not necessary either. Get bugsack and buggrabber, paste the error into ace.pastey.net and report back
13:21.38kenlyric~taint
13:21.51purlACTION calls a few functions and nothing is secure any longer.
13:21.51kenlyricmeh.
13:21.51cynyror does it only look for addons without a .svn dir?
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13:21.58neeneecynyr: indeed
13:22.01krkakick cynyr, he said ACE!
13:22.04KalrothOr I'll just learn to live with the various wowAce. errors, seems easier :)
13:22.05krkacrap i said ACE too
13:22.09krkadamn it i did it again!
13:22.16kenlyrictickles
13:22.23neeneereminds me of Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail
13:22.29Healthkrka is a funny guy1
13:22.35neeneekenlyric: Suit yourself.
13:22.40neeneeer
13:22.45neeneeKalroth: Suit yourself :)
13:22.45krkaoh really neenee? how peculiar!
13:22.49HealthWill you stay for beer krka?
13:22.54krkano!
13:22.58Healthbah
13:23.03HealthYou drink too little
13:23.08krkayou guys always take advantage of me when im drunk :(
13:23.16HealthHEHE
13:23.21kenlyricI need more +fishing gear.
13:23.35kenlyricI wonder if the fishing tourney is any easier these days.
13:23.41cynyrneenee: ohh well see i have a linux and a windows machin, and all i did was copy the linux installed addons(installed with svn) to windows, so is there a nice(easy) way to tell WAU to see those?
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13:24.08neeneecynyr: get an svn client and update. Or remove the .svn dirs and update perhaps
13:24.19cynyrneenee: hmm
13:24.34Punkiekenlyric: you need to fish up a Mr. Pinchy :>
13:24.48kenlyricPunkie, that's why I need my fishing skill up :)
13:24.52cynyrneenee: was hoping for a box labeled "ignore svn" or something to that effect...
13:25.05kenlyric495 isn't really going to be very good, once I get there.
13:25.17cynyrfind . -type d -iname .svn | xargs rm doesn't quite work on windows...
13:25.32Punkiewell, I think my base is like 267 or so atm :S I need to fish more :(
13:25.46neeneecynyr: you can do a search for .svn dirs in the parent dir, then delete
13:25.58kenlyricI just hit 330... +20 for my fishing pole, +100 for a lure.
13:26.00PunkieI need to fish for those Furious Crawdad's for cooking though, only skillup I can get atm
13:26.22kenlyricYou need something like 475 skill just to fish there, 550 not to miss.
13:26.34Punkie:(
13:26.40kenlyricmaybe it's 525.
13:26.55cynyrneenee: hmm well that seems to work too..
13:27.10nevcairielhow could you possible get to 550?
13:27.13PunkieThe only thing I've been able to fish is 1x mote of water with a lure and a +20 pole :p
13:27.28Punkienevcairiel: you can get a fishing hat, gloves etc
13:27.53nevcairieli can get to 375 + 100 + 20 .. then a hat which is 10? gloves maybe 10 as well?
13:28.01kenlyricPunkie, eh, just go to darnassus or ogrimmar and skill up there to 300.
13:28.03nevcairielmaks me like 500 .. not 550 :)
13:28.32PunkieI never really understood how fishing skillups work :S
13:28.37kenlyricit's almost like I typed one line and then didn't type the next one.
13:28.43kenlyricBut oh look, I scroll back and there it is.
13:28.46Punkieif you go to higher level water, is the skillup chance increased per catch?
13:28.50kenlyricno.
13:28.55kenlyriconly the fish get better.
13:29.01Punkieokay
13:29.06kenlyricyou skilll up ever 5-9 catches.
13:29.09Punkiedeviate fishing sounds a nice idea
13:29.44kenlyric"Fishing skill, gear and lures to reach at least an effective skill of 430, although 525 is required to stop fish getting away."
13:29.44nevcairielskillup rate depends on your actual skill iirc
13:30.06kenlyricskillup rate is completely static.
13:30.16Punkiewell, i need to get an epic flying mount first
13:30.16nevcairielwith skill 1, you skillup nearly every fish
13:30.18kenlyricyour skill ONLY determins *if* you can fish in the water, and how frequently fish get away.
13:30.30Punkie60% is helluva slow
13:31.02neeneeYou save time by moving in a straight line though
13:31.06neeneeWell, not always
13:31.10Punkieyeah, and missing mobs
13:31.36Punkiebut now I can pick the new dreamfoil :)
13:31.54kenlyricI haven't found a single flying-only herb.
13:32.01PunkieMana-Thistle
13:32.04nevcairielyea
13:32.05kenlyricI was told of vast riches in the sky.
13:32.13PunkieThat's flying only
13:32.15nevcairielvast riches in the sky?
13:32.20nevcairieli mustve missed those
13:32.22vhaarrThat's not true, you can get to the island in Netherstorm with the portal if you have the quest.
13:32.29neeneeA mouth filled with bugs?
13:32.32vhaarrSo you can get Mana-Thistle without flying mount.
13:32.52Punkiewell, I haven't done quests in the Netherstorm yet
13:33.16PunkieJust flew there for the thistle :) Levelled in Shadowmoon Valley :o
13:33.32kenlyricgetting a good percentage of golden darter right now.
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13:33.58PunkieHas anyone used Carto_Fishing and is it any good ? :)
13:34.21kenlyricI never saw the point, unless it can specifically track pools?
13:34.29sbifishing is so boring :|
13:34.34Punkiewell same, that's why I never tried it :p
13:34.42kenlyricit's great to do at work.
13:34.56kenlyricespecially now that sound can come through the background
13:35.00PunkieAren't you proxied at work?
13:35.05sbikenlyric, i'll be impaled if someone spots me playing wow at work :p
13:35.08kenlyricno, I don't work for evil.
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13:35.32PunkieI'm behind IPCop >:(
13:35.40kenlyricunless you have like a t1 line for 500 people, there's no reason to proxy people at work.
13:35.51kenlyricunless you're evil.
13:35.58Punkieor to filter web access :)
13:36.06kenlyricPunkie: like I said, no reason.
13:36.14Punkiewell
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13:36.45Punkiewhen you have people that work in engineering and maintenence viewing porn, you'd probably need a proxy for them to actually do work :P
13:37.04sbiPunkie, i strongly disagree =)
13:37.06kenlyricor, possibly, policies which require them to do work or get fired.
13:37.16sbikenlyric, agreed =)
13:37.26kenlyricIt shouldn't matter what I do all day, as long as I work and work well.
13:37.44kenlyricand that's why I work here, because that's what they think too.
13:37.45Punkietrue, but not everyone is like that
13:37.56kenlyric"Incidental personal use" is actually written in our policies.
13:38.09Punkiesame for the policy here
13:38.27kenlyricsurprising you can get on irc.
13:38.33sbikenlyric, what's your job?
13:38.34Punkietechnically i can't
13:38.50kenlyricI work at a university :)
13:38.56PunkieI use VNC to get onto my home PC and browse the net freely through it :p
13:38.57sbiPunkie, yours?
13:39.10PunkieIT support admin :P
13:39.31sbikenlyric, it related, isn't it?
13:39.37sbii mean IT related
13:39.50kenlyricyeah, policy/security office.
13:40.00kenlyricI hunt down the wicked and bring them righteous pain.
13:40.28sbilol :D
13:40.39neeneeI work at a graveyard/memorial park, IT too. After kenlyric is done with them, they end up with me.
13:41.02chutwigand when you work in IT there's a lot of righteous pain to go around
13:41.07kenlyricodd... the autoloot window for my fish just stopped working.
13:41.16kenlyricIt opens, but doesn't loot the fish.
13:41.31chutwigit's telling you "stop wasting your time fishing"
13:41.35sbineenee, rofl
13:41.38kenlyricbah!
13:41.40kenlyricgolden darter!
13:42.02FISKER_Q~seen kaelten
13:42.32purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 2h 54m 15s, last said: 'I know that you can do https svn I  just don't know how to set it up'.
13:42.32kenlyricI think I'm just clicking too fast for autoloot to get it.
13:42.32chutwigthis "delete all logical devices" option in storage manager is awfully tantalizing
13:42.32Punkiekenlyric: you use any fishing mods?
13:42.32kenlyricfishingace
13:42.32neeneesbi: We get very few customer complaints
13:42.33Punkieyeah, i got that :>
13:42.36sbineenee, i see =)
13:42.37kenlyricmakes it nice for switching windows quickly and getting the fish.
13:42.47sbineenee, i wish i'll never be your customer btw :p
13:42.51neenee:)
13:43.04sbineenee, btw in the case, i want flowers :D
13:43.05Punkiedoes anyone use Autobar btw?
13:43.27Punkieapparently flying mounts are in the category of AQ :S
13:43.29kenlyricmy primary job is basically blocking people from our network when they get compromised. Doing it during dead/finals week is such a sweet, blissful joy.
13:43.50neeneesbi: hehe. You can even have a small garden if you want to :)
13:43.53sbikenlyric, does your job involve the use of a LART?
13:43.58chutwigangry low-paid university IT high five
13:44.04neeneePunkie: I do
13:44.14kenlyricI'm middle-paid.
13:44.27kenlyricAnd not angry... joy.
13:44.38kenlyricthose t1 support people are the angry low-paid sort. If i had to deal with users, I'd be too :)
13:44.50chutwigthat's why i'm angry
13:44.52kenlyricI get to bring the pain, but don't have to take any of the shit for it.
13:44.57Punkiehow do you ban them anyway? just prohibit them via DHCP?
13:45.12kenlyricdhcp mostly.
13:45.15sbiPunkie, he just uses a 2h mace
13:45.24kenlyricshears are sometimes required.
13:45.42PunkieSo that must be the real use of 'The Stoppable Force'
13:45.55sbiPunkie, you got it! =)
13:45.56kenlyricI'm a priest, I can't equip that.
13:46.11PunkiePress A!
13:46.19sbikenlyric, your inner fire got nerfed ages ago, no more slaps from you! :p
13:46.30kenlyricbeing a priest is very much like my job. I have a lot of control over the happiness of other people.
13:46.39PunkieYou know, it's great being a rogue in TBC nowadays
13:46.51PunkieThose new magic armors give no armor
13:47.01sbiif i would reroll, i'd be a mage another time btw
13:47.05Punkiehaha, shame most people fail to realise that
13:47.19kenlyricnew magic armors?
13:47.21sbibtw, true, cos is a pain :)
13:47.41Punkieyeah, the new mage's armor and warlock's armor
13:47.50chutwigi love fel armor
13:47.58Punkieso do I, no armor for you
13:47.59sbiPunkie, well, i'm using frost armor for pvp ^^
13:48.15Punkieyes, but a lot of mages/warlocks don't use it for questing :)
13:48.22kenlyricwell, i've always said if you let a rogue touch you, you're dead already.
13:48.24Punkiefrom what I've noticed atleast
13:48.28sbiPunkie, shame on them than :;p
13:48.47chutwigwho doesn't use an armor spell while questing?
13:49.15Punkiethey use an armor spell, but not the one that gives them an actual armor increase
13:49.32sbichutwig, punkie is stating most mages use molten armor/mage armor while questing
13:49.42kenlyricwell, does the spell provide other benefits?
13:49.45chutwigwhy use ice armor instead of those?
13:50.01kenlyricMy armor spell does nothing but provide armor, so I don't get a choice.
13:50.08Punkiebecause it gives you armor, chutwig
13:50.13chutwiger
13:50.25mitch0and procs frostbite
13:50.37sbichutwig, cause it procs frostbite, and slows attackers gh
13:50.41Punkiechutwig, read the spell description: http://www.thottbot.org/?sp=30482
13:50.41chutwigan extra 500 armor or whatever versus, say, an extra 100 damage and +25% to healing effects with fel armor
13:50.45sbiand gives you a bit of armor :)
13:50.47chutwigi know what it bloody does
13:50.49mitch0but for questing, it's crap
13:51.03Punkie600 armore makes a difference
13:51.07Punkie-e
13:51.13axxono it doesn't
13:51.19Punkieit clearly does
13:51.29axxoits like 0.5% less dmg from mellee
13:51.29kenlyricnot as much as +100 damage on 3 dots... :)
13:51.38sbiPunkie, not that much it's about a 1% less dam
13:51.40chutwigyeah i really want 600 armor instead of +3% spell crit
13:51.40axxoand you're not supposed to be getting hit
13:51.42chutwigwhat a good tradeoff
13:52.10Punkieperhaps ^^
13:52.17sbichutwig, i do prefer slowing and frostbite while grinding
13:52.20axxoi can drainlife my health to full with 3 mobs hitting me
13:52.23axxoi really need the armor
13:52.25mitch0sbi: huh?
13:52.30axxomage should never get hit
13:52.33Punkiebut rogues are pretty buff now, esp with their new r14 gloves :)
13:52.47sbiaxxo, yeah, but i'm not playing theorycraft
13:52.49mitch0maybe he's a melee mage
13:53.08mitch0;)
13:53.08chutwigbetween frost nova, cone of cold, and polymorph
13:53.11chutwigand blink
13:53.15chutwiga mage has a lot of ways to not get hit
13:53.22axxosbi: sigh
13:53.44sbiaxxo, well if you manage to not get hit at all aginst 5 mob
13:53.46abbat_wyep
13:53.47sbiaxxo, good for you
13:53.54Punkiecya later, got work to do :)
13:53.59axxosbi: i don't theorycraft
13:54.16abbat_wBut if you have 1 talent point in arcane tree why not ;)
13:54.34abbat_wit's good place to spent it
13:54.36sbiaxxo, getting hit to just preserve mana ( not blinking ) is just a cheap way to speed up grinding btw
13:54.54abbat_wHeh
13:54.59mitch0sbi: if (for example) the crocs in ZG hit you once (that means as a group, so you let them too close) you're dead meat even if you have ice armor on instead of mage armor... if you do AOE right, you don't get hit.
13:55.16axxosbi: yes so you get cloth gear with high armor? ;p
13:55.21sbimitch0, that's not my idea of gringind :)
13:55.34sbiaxxo, you are just exagerating
13:55.39abbat_wI don't know about you server guys, but on my server i have a problems with mobs. To many ppl kill mobs. And i always have time for regen between respawn
13:55.44mitch0you don't get hit with blizz grinding ether
13:55.52axxosbi: no, you're still better off killing them twice as fast then having armor
13:55.53abbat_wDon't need to conserve mana
13:56.01mitch0AE spam is another matter, but that's the lamest way to aoe grind imo :)
13:56.06axxosbi: or is that theorycrafting aswel?  oh nos!
13:56.16abbat_wmitch0, why?
13:56.36abbat_wtry to spam AE with shatter for example
13:56.43mitch0why what? why AE spamming is bad? 'cos you get hit and die too much
13:56.48mitch0not very mana efficient either
13:57.07mitch0I prefer blizz or coc
13:57.12abbat_wIf you want to do solo safe aoe, you need to be specced with permafrost and imp. blizzard ;)
13:57.13mitch0(full frost, btw)
13:57.19abbat_wAnd no one hit you
13:57.45sbibeing full frost blizz is obv better, and yeah being full frost i agree, you can use mage armor or molten
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13:57.58mitch0I'm 0/0/55 atm :) going for 5/0/55
13:58.05sbimitch0, lol :D
13:58.11abbat_w55 in frost? :)
13:58.11chutwigneed more frost
13:58.14mitch0yep
13:58.19abbat_wheh
13:58.35mitch0it's awesome (for me at least. I like the frost playstyle)
13:58.40sbiactually i'm spellpower/ice block
13:58.43mitch0I don't want to convince anyone, though
13:58.46chutwigspam ice lance, win every time?
13:58.54abbat_wmitch0, try elemental build
13:58.58abbat_wfire/frost
13:59.02mitch0don't have ice lance yet... I can't wait though :)
13:59.06abbat_wit's most agressive playstyle ;)
13:59.16abbat_wAh, you are not 70 now
13:59.26mitch0I tried to build a tree for elemental, but I couldn't let go any of the frost talents I have :)
13:59.56sbiabbat_w, what's your build? fire til blazing speed?
14:00.01mitch0I'm only 65
14:00.10abbat_wwait, i'll show
14:00.15sbithanks :)
14:00.47FISKER_QKaelten you there?
14:01.12abbat_whttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RZVgGz0ccRxMZbAG0obxs
14:01.13abbat_wthis
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14:02.04sbiabbat_w, uh!
14:02.09sbiabbat_w, a strange one :)
14:02.10abbat_wi like pvp and this is my pvp build ;)
14:02.15abbat_wwhy?
14:02.30sbiabbat_w, first time i've seen your spec, nothing wrong with it :)
14:02.42abbat_wah
14:03.18*** join/#wowace revv (n=Miranda@205.174.173.149)
14:03.21abbat_wI have some problems with this build like small manapool but now i geared into 60 lvl epics ;)
14:03.49mitch0that alliance leveling guide ad on wowhead is so lame
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14:04.14sbiabbat_w, http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kZEgGz00zRhZVVGcobxs0o played this one for a bit
14:04.23abbat_wWith shatter / frostbite i have about 70% spellcrit. So, scorch crit about 1k, lance about 1k5
14:04.27kagaromorning
14:04.36sbiabbat_w, :D
14:04.51abbat_wIf npc have 20% or lower i have some more dmg ;)
14:05.07abbat_wNow 67xx hp and about 8k manapool
14:05.16sbiabbat_w, sure, i found it more useful in pve btw
14:05.31sbiactually i'm 9k mana 650+dam
14:05.40sbilow health pool btw 6.1k
14:05.49mitch0eh... 650+dmg... /envy
14:05.53abbat_wi have 3 pvp 60 lvl epics
14:06.05abbat_wand about 600 spelldmg
14:06.24abbat_wBut you build is nice, i plan to spec into elemental build but with ice barrier
14:06.55abbat_wAnd blazzing speed it's a fun ability btw ;))
14:07.07sbihttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0VcMdzLIzbZZVVGcobxo <- my build
14:07.32sbiabbat_w, yes i like blazing speed :D
14:08.16abbat_wOh, how many ice lance do dmg with you build?
14:08.20abbat_wabout 3k crits?
14:08.24sbi2200 crit
14:08.26sbino :D
14:08.41sbiice lance take 43% +dam /3
14:08.57sbiyou just get 43% as an instant only when the target is frozen
14:09.20sbiap+trinket + crit = 4k frostbolt btw
14:09.29abbat_wUh
14:09.56abbat_wso, nova, ap, frostbolt, ice lance and ~ -6k hp on you taget...
14:09.58abbat_wnot bad
14:10.04sbiyeah not bas
14:10.08sbibaD
14:10.48Burtonsbi> what about ur resilience rating?
14:10.58sbiBurton, really low :(
14:11.04sbiBurton, doing pve at most :|
14:11.20sbinot stacking resil at all atm
14:11.24Burtonthere are pve items with resil
14:11.34sbiyeah, i don't have them :)
14:11.37abbat_wNow i have 40
14:11.51abbat_w20 from staff and 20 from 70 lvl insignia
14:12.14Burtoni have 148
14:12.28sbiBurton, :)
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14:12.34abbat_wit's about -3.5% on crit and -7% on dmg from crit
14:12.37abbat_wnot bad
14:12.38SkOODaThey eveyone
14:12.41BurtonI really hope it will be useful in arenas
14:12.48abbat_wsure
14:12.52sbiBurton, for sure
14:12.56Burtonbecause my spell damage is really nerfed
14:12.59SkOODaTwhats up with xloot monitor..... it doesnt seem to record anything for me
14:13.04sbiBurton, you should be stacking much more resil btw imho
14:13.05mitch0your opponents will hate you for that :)
14:13.13abbat_wyeah
14:13.26abbat_wi think resilence it's very important parameter in pvp
14:13.30Burtonyea sbi that's what im doing
14:13.42sbiabbat_w, i suppose so.. let's see :)
14:14.15sbii'd be deep frost if stacking much resil btw
14:14.24sbii mean, deep frost
14:14.25abbat_wok, give me a week and i'll be geared with 70 lvl pvp gear and about 200 resilence or so
14:14.28Burtonfrom patchnote 2.0.7: * Any effect which benefits the victim of a critical strike will now trigger even if resilience converted the attack from a critical strike to a normal strike; this applies to melee, ranged, and spell. The affected talents, abilities, and items are: "Eye for an Eye", "Blessed Resilience", "Enrage", "Martyrdom", "Blood Craze", "Eye of the Storm", and "Bonespike Shoulder".
14:14.32SkOODaTanyone know i have the latest 4 xloot files installed too off the svn x - loot,monitor,group and master
14:14.53abbat_wIt's not good btw ;)
14:15.16sbiabbat_w, not for mages :)
14:16.04Burtonim a mage :)
14:16.19mitch0how much resilience do you need for 1% crit reduction? 20?
14:16.22abbat_wOk, what be if you hit paladin (for example) with 4k dmg but he have resilence and convert you crit to hit. Paladins eye of eye hit you with damage from you crit or damage converted from crit to hit?
14:16.23sbihttp://www.thottbot.com/?i=59779 <-  i want this one :p
14:16.32abbat_wmitch0, 39 at 70 lvl
14:16.40mitch0uh. that's a lot...
14:16.58abbat_wit's be -1% crit and -2% damage from crit if you be critically hitted
14:18.09chutwigabbat_w: in 2.0.7 stuff like that that relies on a crit will still trigger even if resilience converts it to a hit
14:19.50Burtonsbi> i'd prefere this one: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54830
14:19.56Burton-e
14:21.17abbat_woh
14:21.26sbiBurton, more pvp oriented, yeah :)
14:21.31abbat_wnice one
14:21.46sbii got my scryer yesterday
14:21.50abbat_wBurton is a Battle Mage, not "cavern rat" :))
14:21.58sbieheh :)
14:22.05abbat_wsbi, you are exalted with scryers?
14:22.10sbii like being a glasscannon even in pvp btw :)
14:22.14sbiabbat_w, yup :)
14:22.31SkOODaThas anyone seen xuerian online lol?
14:22.51abbat_wsbi, do you farm rep by self? or buy tomes/marks?
14:23.14sbiabbat_w, i did all questlines + farming, by self mostly yep
14:23.56sbigood thing about area52 questlines is you can do those with aldors :)
14:23.59abbat_whow many time you spent for this?
14:24.05sbiabbat_w, few days
14:24.22sbiabbat_w, seems farming rep now is much easier than it used to be
14:24.26abbat_whmm...
14:24.45sbifarming exalted with frostwolf was a PAIN for example :)
14:24.50abbat_wneed to try grind and questing. i sold my soul to scryers to ;)
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14:24.59sbi:D
14:25.04abbat_wI'm exalted with all bg's ;)
14:25.05abbat_wElvina!
14:25.51winkilleris EoS a new faction?
14:26.08winkillerif yes.. I have to do that. :P
14:26.10abbat_wnow no reputation with bg factions
14:26.34abbat_wall items can be purchased with marks from bg and honor
14:26.47winkillerk. then I'm still exalted with _all_ bgs :P
14:26.50abbat_wso, no frostwolf now ;)
14:27.02winkillerthat was the question. I know the changes
14:27.05abbat_wwinkiller, sure
14:27.07winkillerbut I'm only 64 and haven
14:27.16winkiller't been to EoS BG yet
14:27.20abbat_wbut no new rewards from these factions
14:27.54SkOODaTok.... i figured it out for all thoes who want to know
14:27.58abbat_wyou can see all pvp rewards right now from pvp vendor
14:28.27winkillerI was just asking if you get rep for EoS bg
14:28.41SkOODaTbasically i still make a centeral libs folder and place all my libs there .... SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 wasnt there and does not propduce and error if its not present
14:28.43winkilleri.e. if tehre's a new fation for that bg, nothing about rewards :)
14:28.51SkOODaTSpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 needs a safeguard or xlott does lol
14:28.54SkOODaTxloot*
14:28.57abbat_wwinkiller, no. just 1 or 3 marks ;)
14:29.07*** join/#wowace kovi (i=kov@p5081DE68.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:29.08winkillertoo bad :/
14:29.16winkiller1 more exalted would look cool
14:29.35abbat_wahah, yep ;)
14:29.42sbiwinkiller, lol :D
14:30.30abbat_wwinkiller, btw you have about 2-3 factions which have good rewards with exalted rep
14:30.55winkillerhey, I only got Darkspear,Warsong,Frostwolf,Defilers as an Orc ;)
14:31.19abbat_wYou need to be revered with Sha'Tar (legs enchants), exalted with Scryers/Aldor (shoulder enchants) and one more for head
14:31.30winkillerlower city?
14:31.37abbat_wdon't remember, sorry
14:31.52winkilleras I said, only 64 atm and friendly with cenarion/sporeggar
14:32.06abbat_wPossible exalted with Thrallmar, because Stormcaller looks nice (looks better then Continuum blade btw :)
14:32.12winkillerwill take a while :)
14:32.18sbi:D
14:32.24abbat_w=)
14:32.45abbat_wAh, i was wrong
14:33.14abbat_wSha'tar give you head enchant. And legs enchant you can do with spellthread
14:33.31winkillerwhatever. onlyi nteresting at 70
14:33.36sbii got this http://www.thottbot.com/?i=58891 from o'mrogg
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14:34.03abbat_wwinkiller, yeah. and also you need epic fly mount ;)
14:34.21Wobin><
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14:34.23WobinWell
14:34.23winkilleranyone knows how much _exactly_ it is?
14:34.27WobinI'm all ubunted up
14:34.43winkilleras in: riding skill, epic riding skill, normal mount, epic mount
14:34.48Wobinbut I can't seem to install my nvidia drivers without falling over
14:34.57Burtonhttp://www.thottbot.com/?i=58041
14:35.19mitch0abbat_w: who gives shoulder enchant? (for mage)
14:35.31Burtonmitch0> scryers
14:35.35abbat_wfirst off you need to buy riding skill for non epic fly mount (cost 800g) and fly mount (cost 100g)
14:35.40mitch0Burton: thanks
14:36.58Burtonhttp://www.thottbot.com/?i=54541 and http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54537
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14:45.45Ordogwb all
14:45.45sbiwinkiller, take it this way, how come no druids have a 200g 280% flying mount? :D
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14:45.59Ordogis there a healbot like functionality in grid already? (leftclick = lesser heal, rightclick = greater heal or whatever is binded)
14:45.59winkillerwell, I could save 540g if it's teh case :)
14:45.59winkillermy druid only hit 60 2 days ago
14:45.59mitch0doh
14:45.59winkilleron the other hand I could just try it.
14:45.59mitch0Ordog: you could use clique for that
14:45.59winkiller60->68 won't be so long that I can't fo it without rpicm ount
14:46.03winkilleras I'm saving my money for rogue epic flying anyways
14:46.03sbiwinkiller, your main is a rogue?
14:46.04Ordoghmmm can i use clique with xperl unitframes?
14:46.05abbat_wAlso it's depends which trade skills you have
14:46.05kenlyricwinkiller, yeah, but you need it anyway, so why not just buy it now?
14:46.05sbiah! yesterday i killed a demo warlock, why server did not crash?
14:46.05abbat_wIf something like mining / skinning you can make much money while questing
14:47.35winkillermy druid has herb/mining, rogue has skinning :P
14:47.35winkillerbut it sucks that you need 300 for fel iron ore :(
14:47.36kenlyrichow do you work with herb/mining?
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14:47.36kenlyricwhen I go back to holy and stop doing so much questing, I'd like to pick up mining and drop questing.
14:47.36winkillerSWEEET! http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=123452465&sid=1
14:47.36abbat_weverytime switch radars ;)
14:47.36kenlyricstop skinning
14:47.36winkillerkenlyric, I mostly see stuff and/or switch yes
14:47.36abbat_wHeh
14:47.36abbat_wMining with fly mount - it's damnd nice ;)
14:47.36winkillerok, so no flying mounbt for me, druid will get it for free :)
14:47.37winkillerwoohoo
14:47.37abbat_wYou just fly, got a tea or something else and look at minimap ;)
14:47.37Healtholkd!
14:47.37KalrothGet a swift flying mount and you'll be spending more time chopping veins than flying
14:47.37abbat_wAnd btw
14:47.37abbat_wAt 68 lvl make trinket for 10% mount speed
14:47.37abbat_wDon't sure it affect druid form but works on all mounts ;)
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14:48.13Burtonis there a fubar plugin which shows your speed % ?
14:48.13sbiwinkiller, not so sweet, you have to pay 5000 gold first ^^
14:48.13abbat_whttp://www.thottbot.com/?i=58684
14:48.13abbat_wthis one
14:48.47winkillersbi: 5000 compared to 5000+720+540
14:49.19winkillererr 5000->4500
14:49.47sbiwinkiller, not a huge save though ^^
14:49.47abbat_wI read what druids have epic fly form
14:49.47winkillerthat's 1260 gold saved. +´80 for epic mount +90 for normal flying mount
14:49.47winkillerI think I can't complain
14:49.47abbat_wBut anyway need to purchase epic riding skill for this
14:50.23winkilleryeah, who cares.
14:50.23winkillerI have only 500g atm
14:50.23abbat_wpff
14:50.23winkiller2nd epic flying mount is wayyyyy out of my reach
14:50.23sbiwinkiller, i have 30g lol :D
14:50.23abbat_wafter you took 70 you have about 1k5 - 2k gold
14:50.57sbigot my epic though so who cares :p
14:50.57abbat_wonly for questing
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14:50.57abbat_wand if you don't spent money for BoE ;)
14:50.58sbiabbat_w, true :D
14:50.58winkilleryeah, we'll see :)
14:51.29sbiseems like expansion gold = gold x 10 =)
14:51.29winkillerand I have 2 chars to get to 70, sooo 2*2250 => epic :D
14:51.29abbat_wAfter you took 70 all quest xp converts to money
14:51.29Pneumatusi have 4 :<
14:51.29winkillerback to learning, bye :)
14:51.55abbat_wSo, for example, money rewards for quests in Shadowmoon about 10g - 15g each
14:52.24chutwigyou can easily make 35-40g off some quests at 70
14:52.33chutwig25g for the reward and then vendor whatever the gear is you get
14:52.36Gngskmore like 1-2k
14:52.39abbat_wyep
14:52.55chutwigi have about 2350g right now after 4 days of farming or so
14:52.58chutwigi have no patience for it
14:53.01chutwigbut i will persevere!
14:53.37kenlyricI just crossed 3000g with most of shadowmoon left to do.
14:53.37kenlyricand 8 days now left to do it!
14:53.37abbat_wFor me, best way it's farm primal air
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14:53.39sbi./cast Invisibility
14:53.40abbat_wI can get about 5-6 Primal Air in hour
14:54.42kenlyricthe generous price of knothide leather has helped.
14:54.42abbat_wOn my server primal air costs about 30g
14:54.42abbat_wstack of knothide leather about 15g
14:54.44chutwigi dropped engineering and went farmer spec for my professions
14:54.44chutwigso most of my money now is coming from selling adamantite stacks and healing potions
14:54.47abbat_wmage can easy farm leather in black morass ;)
14:54.56kenlyricyeah, but int the time I get 1 primal air I've had 3 stacks of leather and finished a quest or two :)
14:55.09abbat_wPfff...
14:55.37chutwigi'm also saving stuff like mana thistle
14:55.41sbichutwig, i'm thinking about dropping engineering too
14:55.42abbat_wNagrand is a key for farm primal air
14:55.44chutwigand fel lotus
14:55.45kenlyricsaving... lol
14:55.52abbat_wBut you need fly mount to reach farm place
14:55.53sergiothere's no reason to farm for anything if you have quests unfinished in netherstorm and shadowmoon
14:55.59chutwigwhat's lol about it
14:56.01sergiothere's so much gold in quest
14:56.24chutwigeventually people will start learning the necessary patterns for flasks that require it
14:56.24chutwigand then its price and fel lotus's price will go way up
14:56.26kenlyricunless the market has dropped on an item (like primal shadow on my server) dump everything you have.
14:56.26abbat_wsergio, some quests requires more then one player and sometimes it's hard to find anyone else ;)
14:56.39sergiothat's a lame excuse
14:56.41chutwigwhy?  that's stupid
14:56.42kenlyricfel lotus is one thing I would keep, because the maarket would go up on it.
14:56.55chutwigthere's no market for mana thistle because nobody knows how to make anything with it right now
14:57.19kenlyricah, guess since i haven't picked any I don't know the market on it.
14:57.22abbat_wWait for month, markets be created ;)
14:57.27xyuArenaMaster keeps giving me the error 'ArenaMaster' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()" error.
14:57.36kenlyricI know I was at first tempted to keep supplies of everything I might need... but then figured I needed gold more.
14:57.41xyurandomly
14:57.44chutwigi sell things people need now
14:57.47chutwigmostly ore
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14:59.03chutwigand i have 55 super heal pots waiting for some AH love
14:59.32sbichutwig, those are cheap in my server :|
14:59.39sbichutwig, how much in yours?
14:59.46chutwiga little under 2g a pot
15:00.11chutwigi put them up at a bad time last night and got them all back this morning, but if i put them up again early afternoon today they'll sell
15:00.29sbii'd better sell primal might trasmute ( going for 200g in my serv :| )
15:00.49chutwigand adamantite stacks are going for 35-40g
15:00.53sbitrue
15:01.02chutwigi'd better go farm for some ore before everyone else wakes up and steals it all from me
15:01.31sbilol
15:03.13sbichutwig, my sencod pg died in the process :|
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15:09.40abbat_w200g for only transmute?
15:09.47abbat_wor for might?
15:13.59CIA-1703gagorian * r27638 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Shaman.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc):
15:13.59CIA-17DrDamage:
15:14.00CIA-17-Sanctity aura no longer should apply incorrectly to non-holy spells. Fixed call of thunder and elemental precision. Casts left on action bar update now every difference of 200 mana.
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15:34.40CIA-1703athou * r27639 10EnchantList/EnchantList.lua:
15:34.40CIA-17EnchantList:
15:34.40CIA-17- bugfix for offhand only weapons not handled properly
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15:41.35CIA-1703gamefaq * r27640 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-deDE.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: deDE Update
15:41.49mitch0erm, sorry for asking again, can you apply the spellthreads (aldor/scryer) to other ppl's equipment?
15:42.11ilifinthe crafted ones or the shoulder enchants?
15:42.29mitch0the tailoring ones
15:42.30Pneumatusmitch0: yes
15:43.06mitch0so I don't have to go scryer if I want my pants enchanted with the +dmg thread?
15:43.56Pneumatuscorrect, the thread is tradeable
15:44.18mitch0hm... then I don't know again which one to choose :)
15:45.38mitch0although seer's signet looks nice
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15:47.43mitch0oh well, scryers have master enchanter ;)
15:47.52sbi:D
15:48.07sbimitch0, mage?
15:48.39sbimitch0, enchanter/tailor?
15:48.45mitch0yep
15:49.14mitch0and now working on fishing as well :)
15:49.20sbiwell don't feel afraid to chose :D
15:49.29sbienchants are almost equivalent
15:49.34mitch0wanna win the fishing contest
15:49.36sbiit's just a matter of taste
15:49.48sbiyou get a fine ring with scryers at exalted
15:49.49mitch0yet, that's why it's hard to choose :)
15:50.01sbiand damage spellthread
15:50.06sbiso.. i went scryer
15:50.08mitch0yes, the ring is nice, then again, the aldor robe is nice, too
15:50.18sbialdor is a nice choice too btw :)
15:50.26mitch0oh ffs :)
15:50.47mitch0I'll go with scryer anyway. they have master enchanter and I like their name better. and they don't have tails.
15:51.02mitch0and have better furniture
15:51.16mitch0although they look a bit "strange" :)
15:51.17sbiyeah i live to flirt with those blood elf females too
15:51.18sbilol
15:52.11sbisha'tar rep is my next challenge :E
15:52.26neeneeScryers.. Crying with a capital S
15:52.40mitch0eh, and that comes from "neenee" :)
15:52.47sbineenee, my shift is broken!
15:52.52neenee:)
15:53.27sbim y   s pa c eb a r h a s au t o    fi r e ac t iv a te d
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15:54.03Pneumatusguys, does PeriodicTable-3.0-TradeskillResultMats.lua in theory contain the ids of every craftable item per profession?
15:57.31neeneeI do not know.
15:57.57sbineed more rage!
15:58.10axxojoin the uber R A G E guild on my realm
15:58.28sbiaxxo, too few players? :D
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16:03.01neeneeAh, my average increasing rate is 0.7KB/s. Seems good :)
16:03.38Pneumatus2k :<
16:03.49Pneumatusoh no, average 4.5k
16:06.52Silviu-2.0
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16:10.45Idyllacan prat link items that you havn't seen but others on the server might have (i don't mind disconnecting)
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16:11.33Gamefaqhi
16:16.26neeneeHello
16:16.57art3mishttp://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2007-01-31-n71.html
16:19.07neeneehehe
16:19.08neeneecute
16:19.57CIA-1703gamefaq * r27641 10BugSack/BugSack-deDE.lua: BugSack: deDE Update
16:21.04vhaarrGamefaq: thanks
16:21.43Gamefaqnp
16:21.47art3mishttp://www.thetoque.com/top_five_plus_five_more/top_new_slogans_for_microsoft_windows_vista_20070205.html
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16:22.51neeneehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRNZCZtLvs - Mario World of Warcraft
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16:43.57Gastroeverytime i "mouseover" over an item, mendeleev is throwing me this error http://ace.pastey.net/6310
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16:44.49cncfanaticsg'morning ppl :)
16:50.39CIA-1703kemayo * r27642 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix escape-closing of the details frame. (The frame I was using to detect escape-closing wasn't being hidden when the tablet was manually closed.)
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16:53.05neeneeIs anyone else experiencing the problem that Closetgnome_Mount doesn't seem to load - No Mount option in Closetgnome for instance
16:53.37vhaarrIt loads, it just has no options in the menu.
16:53.40vhaarr<PROTECTED>
16:54.00vhaarrhm, or maybe I added options
16:54.11neeneeThere were options, but for one user nothing shows up
16:54.23neeneeoki fixed, was suspended :)
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17:01.32durcynGastro: you appear to be missing PeriodicTable-3.0
17:01.44durcyner, hrm, cancel that, Mend still uses 1.0
17:02.12durcynGastro: do you have PeriodicTable in addons or Mendeleev\Libs ?
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17:08.31vhaarrI've got a PT3 Mendeleev branch.
17:09.32vhaarrIt's not done yet, but it works.
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17:14.19Gastrodurcyn: re
17:14.24Gastroim using standalone libs
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17:14.34durcynokay, do you have PeriodicTable installed?
17:14.42Gastrojep
17:14.52Gastrohm, my fault...
17:15.04Gastroi thought mendeleev in trunk is already pt3
17:15.06Gastro-.-
17:16.23Elkanobtw: I have a fix for PT1's tradeskill data pending... but haven't had time to test my code yet
17:17.52HjalteCan anyone recommend me a simple svn client, that is not tortoisesvn?
17:18.06Elkano^^ but I've got to go on fire watch duty in a few minutes
17:18.20ElkanoI could check it in and have others check/fix it ;)
17:19.06nevcairielHjalte: command line
17:19.46FISKER_Q~seen Kaelten
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17:20.29Hjaltenevcairiel: too simple :) Actually, all i need is to download mendeleev pt3 version - anyway to do it without a svn client?
17:20.29FISKER_Qdoh
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17:22.19durcynHjalte: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Mendeleev/PT3
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17:24.17neeneeI just read that Anna Nicole Smith died?
17:24.31durcynneenee: and gregory hines!  who shall be the third, i wonder?
17:24.51neeneeWell, not me
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17:25.59neenee:|
17:26.07*** join/#wowace Bibulous (n=bibulous@sky-has-you.falt.ru)
17:26.12neeneeAnd the World Press Photo contest is depressing too.
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17:26.45neeneeThis one I like though: http://www.worldpressphoto.com/images/photocache/photos/2007/NA/Stories/NAS%203/NAS3-LL_520x345x90.jpg
17:26.54neeneeAnd the various penguin ones
17:28.49CIA-1703benumbed * r27643 10Epeen/modules/Target.lua: Epeen - Small Fix
17:29.07cncfanaticsanyone here with good experience with the widget API ? I'm having weird problems
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17:34.18Pneumatusdoes the author of Cartographer_CorpseWay hang around here?
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17:38.04[Ammo]Pneumatus: he does/should
17:38.27Pneumatusi just wondered if it was intentional that the corpse waypoint notes get shared with cart noteshare
17:38.32cncfanatics[Ammo], could you possibly help me some with a weird problem I'm stuck on since 4 days ? :p
17:38.40Pneumatuswhich ofc means they dont get deleted when the person gets their corpse
17:38.43[Ammo]depends what the problem is cnc
17:38.53cncfanaticswidget API probs
17:38.57cncfanaticsone sec
17:39.00Pneumatussomeone is dying a lot in ashenvale and covering my map in skulls :)
17:40.04cncfanatics[Ammo], the buttons this code creates: http://ace.pastey.net/6311
17:40.12cncfanaticsare way too small, they're about 5 pixels high
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17:41.16cncfanaticsand I got no idea why :(
17:43.44XuerianNo idea about the actual sizing problems, though o.0
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17:44.39[Ammo]checking cnc
17:45.20CIA-1703lordrhys * r27644 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (FactionItemsFu.lua FactionItemsFuLocals.lua): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: 2.1.7, updated spelling on some items, fixed missing ] in line 191
17:46.03[Ammo]isn't a CheckButton always that size
17:46.05[Ammo]or am I mistaken
17:47.40Xueriancnc: What happens if you just make it a normal frame?
17:48.03Pneumatus~seen ckknight
17:48.08purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 40m 56s ago, saying: 'honestly, it would be awesome if we were given something like SQLite to store data with'.
17:48.36CIA-1703kemayo * r27645 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
17:48.36CIA-17Babble-2.2:
17:48.37CIA-17-Boss: Add missing for RFD, RFK, SM, Deadmines, Ulda, WC.
17:49.36CIA-1703kemayo 07PT3 * r27646 10Mendeleev/ (2 files): Mendeleev (PT3 branch): Flesh out the 1-40 instance loot sets.
17:50.53NeoTronso when will we see bigwigs support for deadmines? I mean, that vancleef guy is rough!
17:51.47Pneumatusand what about Hogger?
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17:54.10Xueriancncfanatics: Get pung?
17:54.12NeoTronThey should add a new outdoor boss mob, Dread Lord Hogger
17:54.34NeoTronand I still want a raid instance with kobolts
17:55.04NeoTronHmm. There are no murlocs in outlands
17:55.14NeoTronthere's nothing like them in fact
17:55.38durcynravagers.  huge, mutated, angry murlocs.
17:55.57Pneumatusthey are more useful than murlocs though becuase thye are skinnable
17:56.12cncfanaticsXuerien, now I did
17:56.15cncfanaticsno idea, lemme try
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17:58.21ckknighthey all
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17:59.31Xuerianoy, ckknight.
17:59.36neeneehello
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18:05.12Pneumatusckknight: i dont suppose you've got any idea how I can either stop recieving CorpseWay notes from other people
18:05.20Pneumatusmy map is getting littered with skulls :<
18:05.25ckknightno
18:05.40Nickenyfikenhaha
18:06.40cncfanaticsPneumatus, disable recieving general notes
18:06.47cncfanaticsu don't need to recieve those anyway
18:08.30Pneumatuscncfanatics: thanks will try that
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18:09.51nadas~seen Saroz
18:10.31purlsaroz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 131 messages. Is idling for 1d 23h 31m 28s, last said: 'ftw'.
18:10.49SarozWHA
18:11.06FISKER_Qhttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1171044426294.jpg
18:11.09nadas:o
18:11.12kagarohello ck
18:11.29nadasSaroz: is sRaidFrames supposed to save changes to filter sets or not? :)
18:11.42neeneeFISKER_Q: hehe
18:11.45Sarozit resets the 3 filters every time
18:11.50nadas:(
18:12.00Sarozoutcomment it
18:12.12nadasnah, it's ok..
18:12.24Icerothis there any way to get ag_uf to show player frame only in party?
18:12.28Sarozwork in progress you know :p
18:12.30nadasjust wondering if it was on purpose
18:12.57Sarozit is atm :p
18:13.03nadasour tanks aren't really 'melee dps' atm so wanted them banished from that group ;)
18:13.14Saroz:p
18:13.16nadasbut they keep sneaking back in!
18:13.22Sarozgkick
18:13.26nevcairielheh
18:13.28nadashell yeah
18:13.43cncfanaticsXuerian, no difference using Frame instead of CheckButton
18:13.59Xuerian[Ammo]: Theory went poof.
18:15.15axxowtb feature for factionfu to remember 'inactive' section collapsed ;x
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18:26.22CIA-1703jerry * r27647 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Babble-Boss french updates
18:28.29CIA-1703fin * r27648 10Prat/extras/util.lua: Prat: polished my bits
18:28.52CIA-1703fin * r27649 10Prat/extras/blank-module.lua: Prat: fixed slash command registration naming
18:29.00kenlyricmake those 0s shine
18:30.46shieldbkenlyric, http://www.gamespy.com/articles/494/494411p1.html ?
18:31.27kenlyricok.
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18:35.26shieldbanyone know if the arcane watchmen that guard the entrance to the menagerie from the broken stair (right before the curator) stop respawning once the curator is down?
18:36.06Pneumatuslol, i bloody hope so
18:36.15Pneumatusthose guys are nasty :<
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18:37.27Finwhat's the correct mime type for lua files? text/lua?
18:38.24Finsvn:mime-type=text/plain
18:39.37FinI've definitely set this in TortoiseSVN before, I wonder why it didn't save
18:39.42Finnaughty tortoise
18:40.13CIA-1703fin * r27651 10Prat/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: basic unix/IRC-like /alias functionality in place with adding, listing, and deleting aliases (need to fix up using special characters and expand expansion and alias flexibility)
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18:48.54packetlsscould someone unbreak Babble-Boss?
18:50.38FinI can't myself, but I could scribble scrabble dabble on the microphone
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18:54.10nevcairielwhats broken with it?
18:54.29Arrowmaster[2007/02/09 13:53:46-1192-x1]: Babble-Boss-2.2\Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:1484: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 1030) near '['
18:55.14CIA-1703jerry * r27652 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed typo and added a missing translation
18:55.17Arrowmasteri was about to fix it myself but i dont have it checked out from dev
18:55.22nevcairielbah!
18:55.27Tornhoofdid they fix that properties bug in that other svn client?, i don't like that desktop integration of tortoise
18:55.28nevcairieli was just commiting
18:55.31nevcairieland now it failed :D
18:55.35Arrowmasterlol
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19:01.55chuckgI wonder how hard it would be to readd /aguf config
19:02.06XuerianOut of curiosity, does anyone know how loot rolls look in non-english languages, in the chat log? Does it still use the YOU string, of the respective language, instead of the player name?
19:02.21Finimpossible! crazy talk! madness!
19:02.40neeneeXuerian: Not a clue
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19:05.43XuerianWonder how I could get my hands on a non-enXX GlobalStrings.lua....
19:07.01Saint-Ngo to any of the ui sites and find one thats in german ;P
19:07.33ChinkuXuerian: just tried it with the German client, the roll message obviously uses the player name.
19:08.13XuerianChinku: As in there's no "You passed on xxxxx" or "You rolled X on XXX", it's just "Playername did this"?
19:08.48ChinkuXuerian: well, I did it as /random 100, without a specific loot window.
19:09.11XuerianChinku: Ahh, heh. Yeah, I didn't say I meant group loot rolls. Thanks for checking though =)
19:11.13Tornhoofaccording to my guild it's localized You ("Ihr")
19:11.37XuerianTornhoof: Excellent. Thanks a bundle for asking - Saves a few matches and a lot of frustration =)
19:11.55Lysitheaanyone got any idea how fast you get arena points?
19:13.37Findunno if this'll help: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-1.12-frFR.lua
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19:22.53XuerianDoes actually, thanks Fin.
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19:35.44Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6837#cmnt32081
19:35.49Tekkub*points at comments*
19:36.03Tekkubplease back me up, those of you that like my mods ^^
19:36.17TekkubI'm not in the mood for whiney fuckers like that
19:38.12Pneumatus<3 Tekkub
19:38.52Saint-Nyou make mods?
19:39.05Saint-Ni thought you just hung around and lipped people off ;)
19:39.27yacoobthat's a part of true mod making, apparently you're not a jedi yet.
19:39.46Tekkubfuck you all
19:40.06Saint-Nwhat mod are we talking about though?
19:40.08Saint-Ni use eqcompare
19:40.11ckknightI find it's better to ignore them and bitch at them on my own territory, i.e. IRC
19:40.17Saint-Nhahah ckk
19:40.28Pneumatusi assume CV just hooks the comparison frames, i'm sure it could hook the tekkompare frames in the same way
19:40.30Saint-Nno worries EVERYONE that codes eventually hits this phase
19:40.32Tekkubyea ckk, if I could I'd disable the comment threads on WoWI completely
19:40.39ckknightTekkub: yep.
19:40.47Saint-Ni did on my godwars constantly
19:40.48Tekkubhits?
19:40.54Tekkubphase?
19:41.05Saint-Ni had two generic responses "i rule. you suck. die"
19:41.22Saint-Nand "go away kid, ya bother me"
19:41.24XuerianSaint-N: This isn't a phase.
19:41.27XuerianThis is Tekkub.
19:41.33Saint-Nhaha
19:41.34TekkubI code for me
19:41.36Saint-Ntoche!
19:41.38Saint-Ntouche!
19:41.42TekkubI code for the sake of fixing bad code
19:41.43Saint-Nas everyone should
19:41.43yacoobTekkub, just don't give damn about this whiner.
19:41.55Saint-Nexcept ckk
19:41.59TekkubtekKompare is a cleanup of EQCompare/PquipCompare
19:42.00yacoob"If you want something I don't, add it yourself"
19:42.00Saint-Nhe should be a code slave for our whims
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19:42.17Tekkubyea well... hrm...
19:42.25Saint-Nhehe tekk, feel free to tell mazzle i stole her uf's and art and ditched the rest of her crappy compilation ;P
19:42.38yacoobTekkub, btw, what licence are your mods released by?
19:42.40TekkubI'm gonna talk to Cair/Dolby about killing the comment threads
19:42.50TekkubI don't do licenses
19:42.51ckknightTekkub: seems like a useful feature
19:43.13ckknightI like to assume Tek's mods are somewhere between public domain and MIT
19:43.16Saint-Nso tekk explain what yer mod does for me
19:43.27yacoobthen he's not allowed to do it by himself :))
19:43.43Tekkubwhat's the basic simple feature EQCompare and EquipCompare do?
19:44.01ckknightTekkub: I was wondering if you'd add a feature to allow the equip tooltip only show when you push a modifier
19:44.02ckknightjk.
19:44.03Saint-Nso it's THAT without hovering?
19:44.19Tekkubhovering is fluff
19:44.24Saint-Nhovering is handy
19:44.25TekkubI took out the fluff :)
19:44.32Saint-Ni hate having to click shit to see its stats
19:44.38GngskI was wondering if you'd fluff me, my wife hasn't been performing well lately.
19:44.51TekkubI don't, I've been clicking for 2 years
19:45.01Saint-Nya know what WOULD be a good addon for that kind of thing though tek?
19:45.13Tekkubstick with EQCompare
19:45.14Saint-Nerr no addon "bonusfeature"
19:45.24Saint-Na differences winder
19:45.34Pneumatusif it worked out the differences and told you which item was better?
19:45.42Saint-Ncorrecto
19:45.44Saint-Ncuz im lazy
19:45.49Saint-N;)
19:45.55Saint-Nand i hate thinking
19:46.01Pneumatuscan it also pls equip the best items and cast spells
19:46.10yacoobSaint-N, get glider
19:46.11Saint-NTekkub: i clicked for 2 years too, but then i found the ability to hover and see crap and thus i was happy
19:46.12TekkubI'd personally like for the dressup window to show new stats as well
19:46.45Saint-Nhahaha
19:46.45yacoobyour toon will be leveled up, while you'll be able to drink booze or something.
19:46.45TekkubI don't know why it doesn't, that should have been put in before the asthetic compare was
19:46.45Saint-Nyoudont drink while you play already?
19:46.52neeneetrying out TekKompare
19:46.54TekkubI'm drinking already
19:46.59Tekkubfucking users
19:47.03Saint-Nheh
19:47.07yacoobo/~ and a bottle of rum! o/~
19:47.09XuerianSaint-N: Again, it Tekkub.
19:47.17Saint-Ni do like the differences idear though
19:47.34Saint-Nyeah never noticed that he was a world class strung out asshole ;P
19:47.41Tekkubit's just root beer.. but it is in a bottle.. and I'll upgrade soon
19:47.46Saint-Nmaybe it's because im like him in real life to actual people that pay me
19:48.03Tekkubpeople don't pay me
19:48.11Tekkubif they did, I might be nicer
19:48.13Saint-Nthats where your problem lies ;P
19:48.18Saint-Nno you wouldnt
19:48.26Tekkubyea I would... to their face
19:48.30Saint-Njust because they give you money doesnt mean they get treated better ;P
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19:48.37XuerianTekkub: Magic 8-Ball says: Outlook not so good.
19:48.44Saint-N"no stop being dumb and do NOT install nortons again"
19:48.53Xuerian(amen)
19:49.02Tekkubugh... yea speaking of
19:49.10TekkubI forgot what a PITA spyware was
19:49.14Tekkubit's gotten worse
19:49.24neeneehm. seems to work fine
19:49.26Saint-Nspybot
19:49.28TekkubI can't route out whatever snuck into my comp
19:49.28Saint-Nyay!
19:49.37Tekkubblasted crackz sites
19:49.45Saint-Nwww.mlin.net
19:49.49Saint-Nstartup control panel rules
19:50.15Saint-Ni wish the new futuramas would start already
19:50.18Tekkubuh no, I havn't restarted since I was infected
19:50.28TekkubI don't remember when I last booted
19:50.33Saint-Noh
19:50.41Saint-Nspybot and hijack this
19:50.45Saint-Nand tinger
19:50.47Saint-Nstinger
19:50.51XuerianTekkub: Procmon.
19:50.52Saint-Nstinger is good for finding trojans
19:51.06TekkubI don't think it's a process tho....
19:51.06cncfanaticsTekkub, can u help me a second ? :)
19:51.18XuerianTekkub: It monitors all file/reg access
19:51.19Tekkubit sounds odd, but it only does shit when Firefox is open
19:51.28Tekkuband it does it in fucking IE
19:51.30kenlyriclord, save me from people who think they can clean compromises off their computers.
19:51.31Saint-Nspybotand hijack will allow yo to change the reg entries for search features and crap that most crack site use to infect
19:51.37XuerianOooo. Code injection XD
19:51.43kenlyricIf you run as admin in windows and get owned, you are fucked. Rebuild.
19:51.51Saint-Nheh
19:51.56cncfanaticskenlyric, the best way is to not use windows :p
19:52.07ckknightyou guys have all the fun, I'm on a mac and I can't install all those cool spyware programs
19:52.15Xueriankenlyric: Tell that to boot sector viruses :P
19:52.18Saint-Nclean install...all updates..install softwre you use..ghost the drive to an image file on a dvd..run rampant
19:52.18kenlyricyes, and then either don't use windows, don't run as admin, or don't get owned.
19:52.24cncfanaticsckknight, linux here :p
19:52.27TekkubI've not had a virus/spyware in years
19:52.29Arrowmasterheh ive been using the admin account on windows since i built this box like 3 years ago
19:52.36Tekkuband I refuse to fix it on other's comps
19:52.38Saint-Nive had 2 virii in 15 years
19:52.44TekkubI'll deal with this, I'm not mad
19:52.46Tekkub:)
19:52.50Saint-Nand both were me purposly running them to see thier effects
19:52.54cncfanaticsanyone can help with this code ? http://ace.pastey.net/6311 ? the frames it makes are 5 pixels wide for some reason
19:53.17Tekkubcnc, I suck at GUI :P
19:53.40cncfanaticsme too
19:53.49Saint-Nso does ckk ;)
19:53.55cncfanaticsbut I need to know why those shit icons this code makes are 5x wide and can't be resized
19:54.00cncfanaticsi'm stuck on that since 4 days
19:54.23ckknightI'm just a minimalist
19:54.29Saint-Nheh
19:54.31Xueriancncfanatics: Does it size it right without adding anything to it/setting anything? IE, before line 9?
19:55.06cncfanaticsbefore line 9 ?
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19:55.11cncfanaticsbefore line 9 the frame doesn't exist
19:55.19Tekkubif you want them to fill the frame, you can just use :SetAllPoints(frame) can't you?
19:55.24cncfanaticsor wait, wrong code :p
19:55.32cncfanaticscan't make it fill UIParent -.-
19:55.32Xueriancncfanatics: what'chu smokin ,.<
19:55.35Xuerian<.<*
19:55.35cncfanaticsits parent is UIParent, so
19:55.46cncfanaticslemme try Xuerian
19:56.09XuerianOf course you'll have to attach it to something then something to it to see, or give it a temporary backdrop...
19:56.23GngskTekkub, what's the macro to make corkfu do it's thing? /click something?
19:56.36TekkubCorkFuFarme I think
19:56.45ckknightthe world is small. I now have the air conditioner of my university's president
19:56.48Gngskaye
19:56.50Gngskjust found it, thx
19:57.06Saint-Ncheck inside and see if thats where he stored his coke
19:57.49Saint-Nwonder what wow would be like spanned across multiple monitors
19:58.02Saint-Nor if the display border would drive me insane
19:58.08Tekkubit's like wow on two monitors
19:58.38Saint-Nthe only time i had my machine running two monitors wow only spawned on one of them and wouldnt stretch
19:58.52cncfanaticsXuerian, no it doesn't
19:58.59Tekkubthere are ways
19:59.02kenlyricit stretches just fine
19:59.23cncfanaticsanyone good with GUI around ? :(
19:59.31neeneeA gui for what?
19:59.35Saint-Ncalc ken.and.his.bum <kenlyric> it stretches just fine
19:59.38Saint-N;)
19:59.46Xueriancncfanatics: o.0
19:59.57kenlyricare you coming on to me?
19:59.58cncfanaticsneenee, i'm having probs with my frame creation script
20:00.00cncfanaticsand got no clue whats wrong
20:00.04kenlyriccause, more please.
20:00.06Saint-Nshould i be?
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20:00.41Xueriancncfanatics: So if you create a "Frame" based on "SecureActionButtonTemplate", right after creation and sizing/backdrop (without doing anything else after), it's 4px?
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20:01.01cncfanaticslemme check
20:01.20cncfanaticsremoving my sizing stuff
20:01.21neeneecncfanatics: Ah.
20:02.08cncfanaticsXuerian, yes it is
20:02.22Xueriancncfanatics: Blame SABT >.<
20:02.38XuerianTry another secure button template?
20:02.44cncfanaticslemme just remove it
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20:03.50cncfanaticsoh btw, GetWidth returns 9.999999999999994
20:03.54cncfanaticsand if I setWidth to 32
20:04.00cncfanaticsand then do getwidth, it returns 32
20:04.07cncfanaticseven tho the size of the button didnt change by an inch
20:04.38cncfanaticsXuerian, same stuff if I remove the SABT
20:04.40XuerianI'm curious though. Is it only the visible size, or interact size? IE, does it recieve clicks within the 32 px area
20:04.51cncfanaticsgood question
20:05.14cncfanaticsreadded my sizing code, checking
20:05.49cncfanaticshmmm wtf ?
20:05.55cncfanaticsnow suddenly SetWidth is working
20:06.00Xueriano.0
20:06.08yacoobheisenbug
20:06.11cncfanaticsbut only when calling it from /script
20:07.11cncfanaticshmmm, when I do GetWidth from chatbox, the return is 9.999...
20:07.18cncfanaticseven tho SetWidth was done to 32
20:07.23cncfanaticswhat is this shit ?
20:07.40Xueriancncfanatics: jus gots da bad voodedoos!
20:07.50cncfanaticssucks
20:08.02CIA-1703Heron * r27653 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: Added ParserLib to OptionalDeps
20:08.27cncfanaticsgonna try something
20:08.39kergothbooored
20:08.51cncfanaticskergoth, help me then :p
20:08.55cncfanaticsthe voodoo is against me
20:09.02kergothi'm at work, what i can do is limited
20:09.05kergothoh get this
20:09.11kergothhappyhacker.org is blocked
20:09.14kergothstupid filtesr
20:09.23kergothoh noes, the happy hacker keyboards have "hack" in the name!
20:10.30Xueriankergoth: I take it you'd get nailed for using Tor :P
20:11.53Saint-Nthat addon always makes me sing kmfdm in my head
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20:12.34kergoth<3 kmfdm
20:12.59cncfanaticsomfg
20:13.02cncfanaticsI'm so DUMB
20:13.04cncfanaticsDUMB
20:13.05cncfanaticsDUMB
20:13.24XuerianThat means I'm dumb. Why are we dumb? :P
20:13.25kergothkmfdm, better than th ebest.. magalomaniacal... at least the song stuck in my head is a decent on
20:13.25Saint-Nyou've got cnc in yer name it's more or less a given
20:13.28Saint-N;)
20:13.40Saint-Nhehe MORTAL KOMBAT!
20:13.41cncfanaticsfixed my problem :)
20:13.45cncfanaticsfinaly damnit
20:13.49Saint-Ni need that addon for wow
20:13.49XuerianWhat was it? :p
20:14.08kergothwasnt juke joint jezebel in the mk movie?
20:14.16Saint-Nstart of fights it says FIGHT! in scrolling text, and when you kill something FATALITY! YOU WIN!
20:14.18kergoththinkl that was the first kmfdm song i eve rheard
20:14.30Saint-Nmk2 was meglomania
20:14.46kergothmeh, mk2 sucked, i liked the first :)
20:14.53Saint-Nheh and when druids shaapeshift ANIMALITY!
20:14.58Saint-Nthey both ruled
20:15.19Saint-Nas one review said "considering it was a fighting video game, they didnt do half bad"
20:15.31Saint-Nalthough the first one was better because it had the highlander in it
20:15.32snurre-hm, are any addons atm fucking with chat?
20:15.39snurre-i updated with wau, now i cant see any chat
20:15.47ckknightI blame Gnomes
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20:16.37kergothSaint-N: christopher lampert rocks, i love that weird voice of his
20:16.47Saint-N"All Gnomes are fire, it's up to the horde to help them remember this."
20:16.48Xueriancncfanatics: What was it, damnit!
20:18.26cncfanaticsXuerian, some sizing code in another file -.-
20:18.50Xuerian...
20:19.01Saint-Nwow
20:19.15Saint-Nthe head of cartoon netowrk stepped down today over the bomb scare fiasco
20:19.30Saint-Ncost tuner broadcasting 2mil
20:21.36ckknightthat's too bad
20:22.09Saint-Nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUaQVZHzyI&eurl=
20:22.16Saint-Nit was a brilliant marketing ploy
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20:23.23Saint-Nnow i have the stray cats in my head
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20:25.26Saint-Nit's been said that over 3/4's of all americans can't do siple arithmatic, the other 50%
20:25.26Saint-Ncan
20:25.26XuerianHow the frick can ("Greed Roll - 90 for |cffffffff|Hitem:2589:0:0:0:0:0:0:771111515|h[Linen Cloth]|h|r by Cairnriil"):find("^Greed Roll - (.-) for (.-) by (.-)$")   find "- 90"?!
20:26.54Saint-Nwow my speeling is horrid 2day
20:28.07Saint-Nuse \'s?
20:28.09kergothXuerian: because - is special.
20:28.16kergoth" -" is a non-greedy match of multuiple spaces
20:28.30kergothescape the ones used as seperators in the string you're matching, i'd say
20:28.31Xueriankergoth: yeabutit'snotinsdeaCAPTURE! >,<
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20:28.41kergothhm?
20:28.52kergothlisten
20:28.56kergoth"Roll - "
20:28.59kergothwill match "Roll "
20:29.06kergothand the .- will match the rest
20:29.09kergoth"- 90"
20:29.16kergothfix your pattern :P
20:29.19XuerianRight, but - transcends the power of braces to capture things?
20:29.25kergothwhat?
20:29.49Xuerianhm.
20:29.50XuerianNevermind.
20:29.50kergoththe actual "- 90" is within the () match
20:29.54kergothas i just described above
20:30.07kergoth:P
20:30.21kergothi suck at lua patterns, but i know regex, so i run into that sort of crap all th etime
20:30.32kergothknowing what to escape and what not, when, is a pain in the ass
20:30.44kergothman, i <3 that nameplate modifer addon
20:30.58kergothhiding the border, adding health %, and using the 'steel' texture for the nameplate health bars = hot
20:31.07Xueriannyeeargh. Patterns, fun, yet annoying. Also. Link
20:31.08Iceroth:o
20:31.10Icerothwot's that
20:31.22kergothhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6852-1.0.1.html
20:31.48Icerothneat
20:32.12XuerianClick casting now? Sweet.
20:32.22kergothdid he add it? i know he was working on it
20:32.23Saint-Ntoo bad nameplates are teh ghey
20:32.49kergothi find them invaluable to keep an eye on where the group's dps is going in 5 mans at a glance, myself
20:33.02XuerianYep...
20:33.03XuerianNice.
20:33.47vithosyeah, i wish nameplates weren't just by distance.
20:34.23vithosshowing all party targets nameplates, or maybe all party incombat would be nice
20:34.31kergoththatd be cool
20:34.35Saint-Ngraphix toggle
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20:34.38RaydenUnicyclistclick casting on nameplates?
20:35.15RaydenUnicyclisti would like to see a nice list of all mobs that are aggrod on your group
20:35.27RaydenUnicyclistlike a bulleted list that you can click on
20:35.41kergothperfecttargets was something like that
20:35.44kergothbut you cant click on it anymore
20:35.46kergothdue to the 2.0 changes
20:36.27XuerianYeah, perfecttargets was shiny
20:36.54RaydenUnicyclistit would be nice to see how many guys are fighting you and their life
20:37.00RaydenUnicyclistand be able to target them based on that
20:37.10RaydenUnicyclistis there something that just displays still? is it ace?
20:37.13kergothas a rogue, especially in disoragnized groups, i need to know who's dps'ing what
20:37.20kergoththeres still perfecttargets, someone updated it
20:37.24kergothi havent tested it htough
20:37.51RaydenUnicyclisti don't understand the fascination that people have with slapping "perfect" onto everything
20:38.07kergotheverything?
20:38.12kergoththere was perfectraid, and then perfecttargets
20:38.14kergothmade sense to me
20:39.15RaydenUnicyclistwhat does maintank do?
20:39.26RaydenUnicyclistwar3 maps often have "perfect" in their name
20:39.26ag`Name plates annoy me because: (1) too much bling graphics around the bar, (2) who cares what level stuff is (3) no damn guild name
20:39.26vithosi'd like to see a node graph of combat with flow lines for targets.
20:39.32RaydenUnicyclistlol
20:39.34RaydenUnicyclistthat would be sweet
20:39.46durcynag`: i only use it for the casting bar, yeah :/
20:39.48kergothag`: you can hide the border around the bar with the addon i linked above, thats a start
20:39.53kergothi'm sure he'll be adding more features
20:39.57ag`kergoth: okay
20:40.05RaydenUnicyclistmmm. directed combat graph
20:40.52RaydenUnicyclistyou can't get the amount of hate built up can you?
20:41.00vithoswith "flowing combat text" lol
20:41.08XuerianHm, I need names for some SEE-Loot events: "Roll Selected", "Rolled", "Roll Won", and "Roll All Passed"... Or should I just use that... >.>
20:42.06RaydenUnicyclistlike select a unit and then display how much hate he has for all the players
20:42.16RaydenUnicyclistso if you are dps you could keep your hate below the tanks
20:42.34Harshmage"Ninja" "Hoping" "Perfect Ninja" and "Everyone's Indecisive"
20:42.45XuerianHarshmage: lol. :P
20:43.03RaydenUnicyclistman, my friend accidentally ninja's two blues in BRD last night
20:43.26RaydenUnicyclistfirst one was a chest, Ghostshroud. rogue really wanted it but he didn't realize it would auto loot or something
20:43.37RaydenUnicyclistthen 2nd was after we had turned on free loot for a moment
20:44.01RaydenUnicyclistno one has any idea bout my hate idea?
20:44.06vithosall the loot policies suck
20:44.53vithosffa+rolling on bops would be great
20:45.36HarshmageKilling Blow Loots.
20:47.42RaydenUnicyclistor you know.. sum the value of previous loots and let whoever has the least sum loot next
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20:47.49RaydenUnicyclistbut that's crazy talk
20:49.37vithosor.. anyone loots; give each non-bop individually to a random player; roll on bops
20:50.29RaydenUnicyclistgive non-bop only on green+ stuff?
20:50.31RaydenUnicyclistor all stuff?
20:51.02vithosi guess you'd need the choice on that, depending on whether you trust the party
20:51.15RaydenUnicyclistcause whoever loots would get all the white stuff
20:51.35RaydenUnicyclisti think some system that stores all the loot till the end would be nice.. but perhaps overcomplicated
20:51.56vithosand then if someone got disconnected they'd be screwed
20:52.26RaydenUnicyclistyeah
20:53.37vid`http://myspace-971.vo.llnwd.net/00569/17/95/569475971_l.jpg
20:53.49vid`always nice when you can get a rear tire off the ground :P
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20:55.43Nomad_WandererI just switched over to using the ora2 package from the new wau beta
20:56.09Nomad_WandererI'm getting an ora2 optional error now.. Am I supposed to be doing anything with ora? like run a batch file or anything?
21:00.01Nomad_Wanderer[2007/02/09 15:59:44-372-x1]: oRA2_Optional\PlayerTarget.lua:1543: 'for' limit must be a number  (line 1543: for k = 1, self.db.profile.nrpts, 1 do)
21:00.30Nomad_WandererThat looks like a mishap, not checking if there are any player targets I think
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21:02.15ArilawYeah, oRA2 kind of blew up after a recent update, I'll have to see if it's still doing the same thing.
21:06.46sbuuhm
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21:07.19sbubabble-boss german broken :/ translation glutton does not exist?
21:07.24AmadeoAsus' Vista motherboards look sweet
21:07.29sbuwell - its in - but commented out
21:07.30sbu:/
21:09.36Icerothwhat's vista motherboard?
21:09.49Amadeohttp://techreport.com/reviews/2007q1/asus-vistaedition/index.x?pg=1
21:10.33ArilawVista edition... lol.
21:11.18AmadeoI doubt it's worth whatever the price is, but it's cool to see that they are working on utilizing technology
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21:11.59Tornhoofheh, tpm support but no tpm module supplied
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21:13.10Amadeoheh
21:13.15vithosuhhhh, lol@that article
21:13.17AmadeoSOE's new MMOG is going to be some sort of spy game
21:13.19Amadeohttp://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22677
21:13.45vithosspecifically, using flash memory as cache to improve performance
21:13.57vithos"because there's no mechanical latency"
21:14.17Amadeovithos: I believe they mean a spinning disk
21:14.36RUBiKhmm.. why am i being prompted for a passwd when do an svn co of Decursive off the trunk?
21:14.44RUBiK(no other addon prompts me)
21:15.18Nomad_WandererThe author may have asked for it?
21:15.40RUBiKi doubt it.. at least not intentionally, i'm sure
21:15.43vithosright, but 1) the IO is so much slower that you're probably better off waiting for the seek and 2) enjoy your ruined flash memory after a few years, hope it's replacable.
21:16.24Amadeovithos: Flash drives cost like $10 on sale these days, I think anyone can afford $10 every few years
21:16.48XuerianWasn't the implementation of flash memory on the mobo/similar supposed to be for caching the bootup/shutdown sequence, nothing else?
21:16.50Tornhoofthat nand memory module won't even survive a few years
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21:17.04AmadeoMost people that are buying a $350-400 motherboard probably upgrade their PC quite often, also
21:17.09vithosmaybe, but it's not a usb keyfob, and there's one corporation controlling the price of replacement
21:17.25vithosthe point is it's engineered to fail, and quickly
21:17.26AmadeoSo I imagine in a few years, they'll have an entire new motherboard :)
21:18.08vithosyeah i just pulled "few years" out of the air
21:18.23vithosi'd like to see statistics on writes per day with that in use.
21:18.32AmadeoI personally have no idea how it's engineered, as I wasn't there to engineer the motherboard ;)
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21:19.00AmadeoIt's possible that it's rarely used
21:19.09AmadeoThey note the option that you can use it as a boot drive
21:19.21vithosmost flash memory lasts 1 million write cycles
21:19.34AmadeoI've had the CF card in my digital camera for years now
21:19.36AmadeoIt still works
21:19.42vithosthat's because you're using it appropriately
21:19.46Tornhoofthis is for readyboost
21:19.48vithosnot as a disk cache
21:19.56Tornhoofmeaning pretty much every application can be put there
21:20.18Tornhoofso you have like 1000 write cycles a day probably
21:20.30AmadeoBut that's not to say it will be, or if it's engineered differently to last longer
21:21.18Tornhoofnand memory is limited there
21:21.20*** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com)
21:21.27Tornhoofit's cheap and fine for usb sticks
21:21.31Punkie`ello
21:21.32Tornhoofbut not for caching purposes
21:22.10AmadeoI'd hope that it's just as cheap, especially since there is no USB component, but who knows...who knows if it's even replaceable
21:22.37RUBiKso it looks like the trunk\Decursive libs are somehow linked in using http://dev.wowace.com/ so that's why it prompts for password on checkout...
21:22.57Punkie`hey guys, does anyone know if there is an ace mod atm (recently updated one ofc) that is causing people do disconnect?
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21:23.42Punkie`If I turn all my addons off it seems to be okay, but something's disconnecting me :(
21:23.49Tornhoofaccording to that picture?, its soldered to the board
21:23.56Nomad_WandererKeep adding and subtracting
21:24.07Nomad_WandererIt's best to do a binary search Punkie.
21:24.17Nomad_WandererCheck them all. log in. get disconnected.
21:24.29Nomad_Wandereruncheck the first half. login, get disconnected
21:24.38Nomad_Wandereruncheck half of the second half etc.
21:24.39kergoth<3 overlord for that
21:24.44Punkie`oki doke :)
21:24.51kergothtem's addon manager addon, can select a block of addons and disable them
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21:25.47Punkie`if i load tekSupport do you think it may give me a little pointer to what could be causing it?
21:27.31Nomad_Wanderermaybe.. but disco's are usually blizzard throttling you
21:27.44AmadeoI thought it was just bad music
21:27.56Nomad_Wandereri.e. your spamming too much info maybe?
21:28.32Nomad_WandererBinary search is the best way to go, but you could maybe try unchecking anything that communicates to other players somehow, and get lucky...
21:29.11Punkie`Yeah, I thought it could have been ColaMachine
21:29.15Punkie`So I disabled it
21:29.25AmadeoWhere's the best place to buy some sort of universal power adapter for small devices?  Wall-wart type
21:29.28Nomad_WandererI'm running that.. that's not it )
21:29.37Nomad_WandererRadio shack?
21:29.39Punkie`I just got this error: [2007/02/09 21:26:09-506-x10]: AceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):434: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'mem' (a nil value)
21:29.39Punkie`<PROTECTED>
21:29.56AmadeoMaybe, let me look if they list any
21:30.01AmadeoRadio Shack is a tiny store these days
21:30.05Amadeothey don't have much anymore
21:30.07Punkie`Although that could be tekSupport as I just loaded it
21:32.18kergothi love that hte name of the mozilla firefox browser nightlies is "Minefield"
21:32.20kergothit amuses me
21:32.26kergothi am, admittedly, easily amused, but even so
21:32.42Nomad_WandererWhat's wrong with being easily amused?
21:32.53Nomad_WandererIs it somehow better to be not so easily amused?
21:33.05Nomad_WandererPersonally, Amused>Not AMused imo
21:33.21kergothtrue
21:34.29Amadeohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5yOJ_-Z3s
21:34.31Amadeothat thing is cool
21:34.31Amadeohah
21:35.10ArilawHmm.
21:35.16ArilawI need to get someone to port PoisonMaster to Ace.
21:35.21kergothpoisonmaster?
21:35.46kergothif its an assist at creating/buying poisons, use hemlock or the one haste did
21:35.53kergothboth work very well
21:35.57Punkie`Yeah, Atropine is pretty nice :)
21:36.05kergoththats the one, couldnt remembver the name
21:36.17Punkie`using it now, looks pretty also
21:36.24kergothyeah i love the look of that
21:36.34kergothwaterfalllib should look that sexy
21:36.59AmadeoThat Dragonfly thing is only $50
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21:37.09Punkie`I just disabled Carto_Noteshare btw, I haven't been disconnected (yet!)
21:37.53Punkie`Is there a library to deal with addon messages?
21:38.17kergothyou mean like AceComm?
21:38.26Punkie`I have no idea! That's why I asked :P
21:38.37kergothi suggest looking in the noteshare libs dir
21:38.39kergothnot difficult
21:38.40kergoth:P
21:38.57Punkie`hihi, well it should throttle addon messages or something
21:39.43Punkie`also, it shouldn't share peoples death skulls
21:39.48Punkie`because that's pretty annoying :D
21:39.48CIA-1703toadkiller * r27654 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
21:39.48CIA-17PeriodicTable-3.0
21:39.48CIA-17-Reorganize buffs by effect
21:39.48CIA-17-Add some missing tbc items
21:40.05PneumatusPunkie`: thats a problem with the death marker addon imo
21:40.09Pneumatusnot noteshare
21:40.18Pneumatusyou can disable general notes being shared to stop it though
21:40.21Arilawkergoth: Yeah, a nice addon by Daito for buying poison reagents and making poisons.  I tried the other Ace poison making addon (forget what it's called) but it doesn't let you set a threshold for poisons, only buys reagents for 5 at a time regardless of what you've got.
21:41.22Nomad_WandererIf you are just looking for a reagent srestocker, free refills is the one.. if you also want the crafting side, then not sure
21:42.50Punkie`Anywho's still no disconnect :D (score!)
21:43.10Punkie`btw Atropine does auto poison refills and checks your bags for any reagents beforehand
21:43.24Punkie`(i dont mean to blow his trumpet or whatever)
21:43.27ArilawDoes it let you set a threshold and buy reagents to top off your supplies?
21:43.31ArilawIf it does I'll use it. :P
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21:44.22Nomad_WandererFree refills will buy any reagent and make sure you have the number you specify when you talk to a reagent vendor.
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21:45.34Punkie`it does yes Arilaw
21:45.41kergothbuydropper is pretty nice, its freerefills with a UI
21:45.51kergothArilaw: both atropine and hemlock do that.
21:46.00ArilawDo they craft too?
21:46.03kergothyes
21:46.09ArilawOoh.
21:46.12kergothnot automatically, have to hit a button a couple times
21:46.16kergothbut its not exactly rocket science either
21:46.37JoshBorkein aguf, does the pet scaling take in to account ui scaling?
21:50.23Pneumatusanyone know why /bw Extras CustomBar global is disabled and i cant re-enable it on Bigwigs?
21:51.16durcynare you the leader of a raid group?
21:51.21Pneumatusuhuh
21:51.34durcyndoes /bwcb <time> <string> work ?
21:52.21Pneumatusbwcb is a local bar?
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21:52.41Pneumatusyeh, bwcb and /bw extras custombar local works
21:54.04durcynbwcb is a sync'ed custombar, bwlcb is local
21:54.18Pneumatusah, i'll just use bwcb then
21:58.56CIA-1703nirek * r27655 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: AutoTurnin: Add Scryer, fix issue with Cenarion exp
22:02.11Punkie`okay guys just FYI, it was definately Cartographer_Noteshare that was causing me to d/c :)
22:02.22Punkie`i probably have too many of those message mods or something :S
22:07.54XuerianOh for Yatlas.
22:08.43_neuron_Punkie`, thanks, I've been disconnecting the last 2 days or so too
22:08.47_neuron_it's driving me friggin nuts
22:09.49yacoobin a week, truly epic thing will happen.
22:10.00_neuron_hehe
22:10.20yacooband man, what a frantic update of addons it will be... 8)
22:10.46_neuron_yeah :P
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22:14.34XuerianDoes the druid aquatic form quest bug out occasionally?
22:17.02NeoTronXuerian: I can't recall having had a problem but I've only had 2 druids do it
22:17.04NeoTronor maybe 3
22:17.12NeoTronand neither recently
22:17.24XuerianNeoTron: Some newb druid can't complete the quest, because she literally can't open the westfall chest
22:19.56Saint-Nabandon and restart?
22:20.51NeoTronXuerian: weird
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22:22.27Punkie`_neuron_ did that help you out? ^^
22:23.28_neuron_Punkie`, well I've disabled the noteshare for now and I'll see :P
22:23.40Punkie`hehe, cool - hope it sorts you out :)
22:24.07Punkie`does anyone use Opera here btw? :o
22:25.33XuerianYeah, about that. Forgot you can't get things while in a raid, and she was in my testing raid.
22:25.34XuerianXD
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22:29.17CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27656 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
22:29.17CIA-17Manufac:
22:29.17CIA-17- Add some debug output when the skill level of something's not found (probably because of the mining/smelting wording difference)
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22:38.04Punkie`_neuron_, it's been disabled for an hour now and I've had no disconnects ^^
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22:44.56Chinkunymbia: got news for you - GetMouseFocus():GetName() yielded "EnchantrixBarker_OptionsSlider_4" as result for those invisible things we talked about yesterday.
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22:51.45paranoidiquestfu tracker framestrata is not working and is set to highest at default ;P
22:51.58nymbiaChinku: then i'm betting enchantrix is the culprit ;)
22:53.07paranoidimmm, strata setting works after ui reload ..
22:53.17Garoun|Loupanalove Devtools for finding that stuff :)
22:53.49Garoun|Loupanato nymbia that is
22:54.34AmadeoDruids are nuts
22:54.38AmadeoMy Warrior can't even touch them
22:54.45Garoun|LoupanaI am not
22:54.48pastamancerre-writing the unit iterator is the most exciting part of new rosterlib versions
22:54.50AmadeoYou're nuts!
22:54.50Garoun|Loupanaslightly demented... but not nuts
22:54.51pastamancerhttp://ace.pastey.net/6318
22:54.53Icerotharmor nerf hurts :-(
22:55.00AmadeoWhat armor nerf?
22:55.12TainAll armor has been turned into tissue paper.
22:55.20Icerothi have like 18-19k armor, <65% mitigation
22:55.29AmadeoThat's bad?
22:55.32Punkie`Rogues are nuts!
22:55.53Icerothyeah it is
22:56.02BarbanusIceroth, you are a druid?
22:56.04Garoun|Loupanayep I either go 19k af with 9600 hp, or 15k af with 10555 hp (both with fort of course), at lvl 68
22:56.04Icerothnot that much new stuff with high armor in tbc
22:56.09Barbanusand nerfed when?
22:56.14Iceroththat would have been 75% at lvl 60 in the good old days
22:56.19Icerothyeah barb
22:56.31Kemayoparanoidi: Yeah, you have to reload the UI when changing the strata.  I'll change the default back to low, though.
22:56.40AmadeoI just don't see why Druids should be able to beat Warriors every time without ever having to leave Bear form :P
22:57.15Garoun|Loupanayou mean as opposed to druids use to  have one method for beating a warrior pre-bc?....
22:57.18Garoun|Loupanaaka travel form
22:57.31paranoidiKemayo: yeah I think that it would be best default. Additionally I got some error about dewdrop but my standalone libs might be out of date ..
22:57.33AmadeoNo, back then it was just Bear form and a heal
22:57.39Barbanusgogo green legs with 475 armor!! http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=30941
22:57.41Icerothhamstring > travel form
22:58.12AmadeoNow it's no healing necessary :)
22:58.48Garoun|Loupanain the past a druid was pretty much an easy kill for most classes without them really knowing what they are doing
22:59.12AmadeoThat's only if the Druid didn't know how to play the class well in PvP
22:59.17Barbanus550 armor on a 2h mace is also fucking nuts
22:59.26Garoun|Loupanamisstyped: if a druid didn't know how to play they were easy kills
22:59.29Kemayoparanoidi: pastey the error?
22:59.31Barbanussorry, with the right gear, druids can hit 75% reduction easy.
22:59.47BarbanusI don't see the armor nerf :P
22:59.57Garoun|Loupanayep, but that means nothing if they sacrifice dodge, hp, and resil/def
23:00.09Kemayo(I'm debugging my SO's WoW install on a Vista laptop from a few thousand miles away.  It's a bit of a pain.)
23:00.14Amadeoeh? all that means is a gear swap, Druids don't even have to respec
23:00.34AmadeoImagine if a Warrior specced Protection but also got the Fury Tree with it
23:00.36Garoun|Loupanaif you aren't specced right youwon't be tanking like the druids warriors complain about :)
23:00.36Amadeothat's a Druid
23:00.38Amadeo:P
23:01.01XuerianDruids must know how to play, know how to gear, and have the guild to get geared, and one that will let them get geared. After going through this, we get to pwn, we get to do multiple things, and we get to do them well if we know how.
23:01.06BarbanusWell protection warriors got a new form.
23:01.22BarbanusThey call it bear form .. learn to love it :P
23:01.34AmadeoXuerian: I dunno about all that, almost every TBC reward has good melee leather
23:01.35NeoTronwhat Xuerian says is that, essentially, it's rough as hell being a druid tank
23:01.39NeoTronbecause you can't just pick any gear
23:01.51AmadeoTry being a Warrior, where all the quest gear is for Paladins :P
23:01.54Garoun|LoupanaI'm not saying blizz won't modify stuff some, but I worked my ass off to get to the level of tanking as I can right now
23:01.55NeoTronand TBC rewards work ok in 5-mans
23:02.09XuerianAmadeo: Not the way it was when I was gearing up to 60. I can't talk about the rest though, I suppose - I don't have bc yet.
23:02.16BarbanusAmadeo rofl? paladins who are wearing warrior gear are fucking retards.
23:02.20NightHawkTheSaneAm I the only one who's not up in arms about druid tanking? (as a warrior, that is)
23:02.21Amadeobut this is basic WoW knowledge, everyone knows this by now
23:02.27XuerianNightHawkTheSane: I think you are
23:02.33XuerianNightHawkTheSane: And I for one, applaud you o.0
23:02.36Garoun|LoupanaI wish there wer emore like you night :P
23:02.44AmadeoBarbanus: Huh?
23:02.49NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: I freaking love good druids, regardless of what they do :)
23:02.54XuerianNightHawkTheSane: <3
23:02.58Garoun|Loupanaall I ever heard pre-bc was warriors complaining about always having to be the tank/prot spec...
23:03.09NeoTronremember also that warriors get 10% damage reduction from all damage
23:03.13Garoun|Loupananow they have druids to fill that spot and they complain even more :)
23:03.18XuerianHaha.
23:03.22NeoTronso a druid with 75% is == warior with 65% in pure reduction
23:03.25NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: 16% vs magic if specced right :)
23:03.27NeoTronand warrior has parry and block
23:03.28AmadeoThe only thing I hate about my Warrior is that I'm useless in PvP without a complete support team, and I'm the only class in game that's like it
23:03.29BarbanusAmadeo, I assume you are referring to paladins wanting warrior gear?
23:03.42AmadeoNeoTron: Druids also have up to 40% avoidance, which ends up being the same thing
23:03.43NeoTronAmadeo: you and every healer specced healer
23:03.52NeoTronAmadeo: not necessarily if they get so much armor
23:03.56NeoTronAmadeo: it's a tradeoff
23:03.58BarbanusNeoTron, lol amen.
23:03.59AmadeoNeoTron: They have the option to respec and hold their own, Warriors don't
23:04.10NeoTronyou can't just get 40% dodge, 75% armor reduction and 20k hp
23:04.16NeoTronAmadeo: why not?
23:04.18AmadeoI guarantee you can
23:04.22AmadeoJust wait until end game
23:04.32Icerothgetting to the end game is the problem
23:04.33AmadeoDruids already have 30% dodge with crazy stats
23:04.46Iceroththe king in kruul's lair hit to my 16k armor (at that time) for 8k or so
23:04.46NeoTronand how much parry/dodge does a warrior have?
23:04.48AmadeoWhen I fight Druids, they dodge more than Rogues - In Bear form
23:05.01NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: if in any gear, a druid can stand on 40% dodge, 75% mitigation, and 20k health while a warrior cant get comparable stats..  THEN something is broken. With gear available riht now though it's fairly balanced
23:05.06NeoTronthey hardly wear their tank gear when pvping
23:05.13AmadeoNeoTron: Combined avoidance is about the same between Warrior/Druid
23:05.15BarbanusNeoTron, you are most likely wearing t3, which is nerfed to hell because of the new combat ratings...
23:05.16ArilawHooray, going home from work.
23:05.17Tornhoofyeh nighthawk
23:05.19Barbanussorry t3 is BADDDDDDD now
23:05.27Barbanusespecially for warriors
23:05.29Garoun|Loupanathe main thing that has to be kept in mind is a druid requires gear and spec to be better then the similar class... without both... yeah right
23:05.32ArilawGotta pick up a gamecard on the way home. :(
23:05.32Tornhoofsince endgame tanking is warrior game
23:05.34Tornhoofnot druid
23:05.38Barbanusbecause of the combat rating.
23:05.38NeoTronBarbanus: hah no. I'm a warlock that got 60 2 weeks before BC
23:05.42ArilawYou kids have fun. o/
23:05.44ArilawBe back later.
23:05.49BarbanusNeoTron, ahh heh
23:06.09NightHawkTheSaneTornhoof: eh, i think there should be opportunities and niches for both druids and warriors, and even palllies, hell :P
23:06.15Tornhoofyeh
23:06.16NeoTronbut a good friend is a feral druid and I've played (and pvped) with my priest and resto druid before
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23:06.23NightHawkTheSaneespecially considering each class excels at different styles of tanking.
23:06.28Tornhoofyes
23:06.35Tornhoofend game tanking
23:06.44Saint-Noh man that was awesome!!!
23:06.46XuerianTorn is right. Though druids can (Ok, could, my PoR) hold their own in many boss fights, they just can't equal warriors. They're excellent offtanks or co-tanks, but for head-on damage druids are second if skill is equal
23:06.59Saint-Nmy bsd shutdown vnodes was 9 0 2 1 0
23:07.06NeoTronthe only benefit a druid has over a warrior
23:07.09AmadeoBarbanus: Oh, no...I was just talking about the TBC quest rewards...almost every Plate reward has some caster stat, so it's useless for my Warrior
23:07.19NeoTronis that with a gear change and form change, they can be DPS or Tank without respec
23:07.22AmadeoI'd say 9 of 10 quests are for Paladins instead of Warriors
23:07.31NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: well, yeah, thats what i mean. for one-on-one boss fights, a warrior will really excel. But against multiple periodic spawns, druids have a distinct advantage.
23:07.31Saint-Nand there are a lot of quests out there that dont even give cloth rewards so shush
23:07.32BarbanusAmadeo, aahhh okay, misunderstood you
23:07.45NeoTronAmadeo: that is a correct complaint for sure. it's almost weirdly biased
23:07.58BarbanusAmadeo, yea .. its because blizzard overcompensated for the lack of hybrid gear pre-BC
23:08.05XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Slightly less so now, but yeah, we still have the advantage on trash and many 5-mans. Then again, how many warriors ever want to tank 5-mans?
23:08.05Garoun|LoupanaAs a druid I'm just sick of having to use up 80% of my bag space for gear suits... sigh
23:08.07Tornhoofnothing bad about that nighthawk
23:08.13NeoTronbut yes, you can now imagine how a hybrid felt before
23:08.14NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: me. :)
23:08.21NeoTronand there's quite a lot of warrior dps gear
23:08.26BarbanusGaroun|Loupana, I do the same as a paladin.
23:08.33NightHawkTheSaneBut i actually really enjoy tanking. Hell I leveled 60->70 prot specced. :\
23:08.34XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Yep, "One", probably a valid answer XD
23:08.39NeoTronand I did the same as a priest
23:08.47NeoTronI had pvp gear, healing gear, stamina gear.. regen gear
23:08.48AmadeoBarbanus: Yeah, but that just turns the tables instead of actually fixing it :)
23:08.51NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: probably :)
23:08.53NeoTronit's not unique to druids :)
23:09.06BarbanusAmadeo, agreed.
23:09.16NeoTronAmadeo: they had stated 60->70 gear is priamrily levelling gear
23:09.30NightHawkTheSaneGaroun|Loupana: thats not unique to druids, i have over a full set of gear with me at all times on my warrior
23:09.56Garoun|LoupanaI tend to have dps/tank/healing almost every one of them has unique gear
23:09.57XuerianI have almost four full bags of gear.
23:10.11BarbanusXuerian, I had about that when I was raiding
23:10.24BarbanusI've got less now however, its all in my bank
23:10.30Garoun|Loupanaonly one I dont' have is casting dps, because I'm not really into teh whole moonkin thing :P
23:10.38XuerianSame, Garoun|Loupana :P
23:10.40Tornhoofoomkin dance
23:10.42AmadeoNeoTron: Yeah, it just makes it difficult on my Warrior...a lot of my gear is from level 61-ish, while I'm almost 67
23:11.27Barbanusseems to be LOTS of good fury weapons tho
23:11.34Tornhoofforget warrior dps
23:11.37NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: yeah, tell me about it. for the longest time i was wearing stuff from BF/SP/Underbog at level 68-70, because nothing would drop, and quest rewards suck
23:11.38Barbanusand warriors are really weapon dependant (like rogues of course)
23:11.56Garoun|Loupanathe most amusing thing is what class, until now, has one of their best form rings as a lvl 50 reward :P
23:12.13KemayoMy main is a prot warrior, and I have yet to see the group of DPS 5 levels higher than me that could pull a boss off me.
23:12.15Garoun|LoupanaBand of the Great Tortoise... how I loathe thee
23:12.19NightHawkTheSaneI know a warrior in my guild actually wore pally plate for a while, because despite being pally gear, it was -better- than anything else he could get ahold of. :\
23:12.40Tornhoofa bit int won't hurt :D
23:12.42AmadeoKemayo: Yeah, single target aggro is fine for a Warrior
23:12.46Kemayo(Incidentally, it was pretty fun running Scholo for the epic pally quest with a group ranging from 62-67.)
23:13.03XuerianGaroun|Loupana: Hehe. Get the Gurubashi ring and the EPL quest ring :)
23:13.04Garoun|Loupanawe have to do that soon Kemayo
23:13.08NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: yeah, bosses are trivial. but those 5+ pulls in shattered halls and shadow lab make my head hurt. :P
23:13.18Garoun|LoupanaI wear dual Ramparts rings now in bear. it's all good :)
23:13.32Xuerian>.>
23:13.46CIA-1703wmrojer * r27657 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua:
23:13.46CIA-17TradeskillInfo :
23:13.46CIA-17- Updated skill level on alot of recipes.
23:13.51Iceroth1 armor ring from old hillsbrad, 1 from karazhan quest
23:13.53KemayoYeah, I suck at groups.
23:14.03Garoun|LoupanaI've only done up to mana tombs :P
23:14.12Icerothhaven't seen a good druid tank trinket in tbc though
23:14.21NeoTronone from heroic boss kill tokens
23:14.24Garoun|Loupanamost of my levels have come from quests/grinding
23:14.27kergothi need to get my lazy rogue ass past 64
23:14.40Garoun|LoupanaI use Regal and good old Smoking Heart in bear right now
23:15.07Garoun|Loupana(important note, I didn't raid, so my gear had a grand total of like 2 purples in it)
23:15.12NightHawkTheSaneThere's a trinket that drops from Blackheart the inciter in shadow lab that'd be good for a druid tank
23:15.19NightHawkTheSaneI think it's +def, with a use effect of +armor
23:15.30XuerianNightHawkTheSane: Not really good.
23:15.32Icerothmark of tyranny and then gnomish engineering chicken trinket, 45 stam
23:15.45NightHawkTheSaneoh? why? (i'm no expert on druid tanking stats, honestly)
23:15.58Amadeokergoth: Get to Nagrand and just start ganking everyone, it's STV 2.0 after all
23:16.07Xuerian+def is secondary to other stats most of the time, and OnUse is teh not usable. (Or is it now?)
23:16.22Garoun|Loupanayou can use trinkets in form
23:16.33XuerianHm, well, it might be good then :)
23:16.33Garoun|Loupanathat's why I use the regal for the +900 max hp
23:17.04Garoun|Loupanasaves me from insta gib on occasion
23:17.04kergothAmadeo: hehe, pve server
23:17.10kergothnagrand is a good idea though, i'm a skinner :)
23:17.19Amadeoaww
23:17.35AmadeoI think I'm gonna level up a Druid, be FOTM!
23:17.40nymbiaXuerian: that's one major problem i forsee with many druid tanks.... no +def means you're gonna get crit and crushed.  and if you say resilience i'm gonna cry ;)
23:17.49AmadeoI keep saying it and not doing it though, because I hate leveling up newbies
23:17.53Garoun|LoupanaAmadeo that's the primary reason I hate being consider FOTM
23:17.58Xueriannymbia: Yep
23:18.03AmadeoJust tell everyone you made your Druid back when they sucked
23:18.13Xueriannymbia: That's why I said it's secondary - It depends on how you're trying to gear.
23:18.13Garoun|Loupanait's like being a popular indie ban that sells out and goes mainstream...
23:18.16AmadeoI have a Warlock, people said that to me also, but my Warlock has been around a long time :)
23:18.18NightHawkTheSanenymbia: druid tanks are going to get crushed, regardless, they -can't- get that much avoidance
23:18.32nymbiaXuerian: but there's a major lack of itemization for leather +def so.. :(
23:18.35XuerianYeah. We take the crushes :P
23:18.48NeoTronnymbia: my druid tank friend already has mxed out defense for l72 bosses, and close to l73 ones
23:18.53NightHawkTheSaneXuerian: which is why you get so much armor and hp to begin with ;)
23:19.06XuerianSo many other warriors don't get that :p
23:19.08Garoun|Loupanaaf, hp, dodge... rest in resil/def
23:19.10NeoTronbut the druid set gear is retarded
23:19.14nymbiaNeoTron: there's no 'max' defense like there is for resist
23:19.23NeoTronint and spirit and +heal on the feral set
23:19.23Garoun|Loupanaour only avoidance is dodge
23:19.30NeoTronand in terms of getting crit, yes there is
23:19.32AmadeoI wonder about Crushing Blows...how often do bosses do that?
23:19.41NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: 15% of the time.
23:19.49NeoTronmore defense helps but for a druid it's much less significant
23:20.06NeoTronand with a -3% chance to be critted you only need enough defense to get 2% less chance to get critted I believe
23:20.11NeoTronor 3% or something along those lines
23:20.12AmadeoSo a Druid probably mitigates the same amount as a Warrior then, including the Crushing Blows...considering the Druid will probably take less damage through the normal hits
23:20.12NightHawkTheSaneThe only way to avoid being crushed is to get enough miss/dodge/parry/block to push that 15% off the table
23:20.31NeoTrondruid and warrior are similar for tanking
23:20.43NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: yeah. the extra armor compensates for all the crushes you get. Warriors are expected to avoid most of them.
23:20.52NeoTronwarrior has more powerful abilities of survival (last stand, shield wall... ability to use potions and health stones etc)
23:21.11nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: block, eh? ;)
23:21.19NightHawkTheSanenymbia: yes, block
23:21.20AmadeoNeoTron: In PvE I agree, but I disagree from a PvP standpoint
23:21.22Icerothblocked attack can't crit
23:21.29nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: but yeah, most bear tanks have some significant dodge
23:21.37NeoTronAmadeo: I don't care much about pvp :)
23:21.38Garoun|Loupanathere are a ton of things added to increase block now... my god lol
23:21.40NightHawkTheSanenymbia: 100% dodge, though? :P
23:21.41AmadeoI do!
23:21.42Amadeohehe
23:21.58XuerianI have a bitter spot against pvp
23:22.05XuerianI got fun things nerfed.
23:22.17NeoTronthe druid does have the benefit of "itemrack => equip feral dps" instead of "respec dps and use other gear" of warrior
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23:22.25nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: THEY BETTER OR THEY ARENT TANKING FOR ME! ;)
23:22.30NeoTronbut a tank pve specced druid will be missing some pvp talents
23:22.31NightHawkTheSanenymbia: lol :)
23:22.37Silverstormguys, guys...it's wowace, closetgnome, please =p
23:22.44NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: actually, prot warrior dps isn't actually as bad as it used to be
23:22.45kergothitemrack 2.0 is hot
23:22.51kergothequip queues for all slots.. mm
23:22.53Icerothumh yeah.. and the itemrack also fixes the other 2/3 aspects of the class if you choose to spec melee?
23:22.54XuerianItemrack is hawt indeed
23:22.57NeoTronSilverstorm: nah. no like closetgnome
23:22.59Silverstormhaven't tried 2.0, still hvae 1.99, and thought I'd check CG
23:23.02NightHawkTheSaneItemRack owns my soul.
23:23.19AmadeoI've been using ClosetGnome, but there's such huge lag when you swap sets
23:23.36Silverstormhmm, haven't noticed that yet, but I'm only swapping for mounted right now
23:23.37AmadeoI heard if you just make an item swap macro, you don't trigger big GCs or something
23:23.54NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: esp when you consider that sub 20%, prot warriors are superior to MS warriors and -almost- on par with fury warriors for execute dps
23:23.59KemayoAmadeo: That's what made me stop using the auto-swap-on-about-to-die module.  It made me die more because of the lag.
23:24.12Saint-Nlaugh
23:24.24Saint-Nmy fav thing so far is automatons autodismount
23:24.29AmadeoKemayo: Yeah, if I get too much aggro, I switch to my shield and run...but then I lock up for a few seconds and die...so... :P
23:24.32kergothman, ohnoes was nice, but i failed to finish a boss off solo multiple times in pug 5 mans
23:24.35Saint-Nand accidently clicking a trinket, and dismounting while you're flying
23:24.36kergothhad to drop it
23:24.39NeoTronAmadeo: lag from swapping gear sets is often accounted for by the bag addons
23:24.45NeoTronnot the swapping itself
23:24.53AmadeoNeoTron: What do you mean? I'm using OneBag
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23:25.04Silverstormis there a good auto-dismount mod?  I still have stupidmount, but it's not getting all the cases anymore
23:25.05NeoTronif the bag is sorted / recalculate inventory on events
23:25.15kergothautomaton's dismount module works well
23:25.15AmadeoOh, I don't think it does
23:25.20NeoTronand 1) don't filter out events when closed, 2) don't use a timeout for  resorting
23:25.23kergothmost of automaton's modules work well, really
23:25.23NeoTronit can take a lot of cpu
23:25.38NeoTronsince when swapping a gear set it can recalculate the inventory like 8+ times
23:25.46Garoun|LoupanaXuerian: at this point I'm just dreading the rep  grind to earthwarden
23:25.50NeoTroneasy to test
23:25.57NeoTrondisable the bag addon and see if the lag goes away
23:26.00AmadeoNeoTron: That sounds more like a sorting-bag addon, OneBag is just a big display
23:26.04XuerianGaroun|Loupana: I don't even know what earthwarden is -.-
23:26.14NeoTronit's also possible other addons (like ones that calculate bonuses from equipment for example) does things
23:26.25NeoTronAmadeo: typically yes, but you never know
23:26.33AmadeoI can try
23:26.39NeoTronstill if you get lag there most likely some addon is doing something
23:26.48NeoTronyou can try using the ktm performance meter or whatever it's called
23:26.55NeoTronif it still works
23:26.57kergothfire up teksupport, equip something, see how it looks
23:27.00Garoun|Loupanait's the epic CE mace
23:27.02NeoTronand see which addons it lists as using a lot of cpu after swapping gear a few times
23:27.08XuerianAhhh o.o
23:27.09Silverstormthat poses an interesting question...is there a mod that could track which mods trap which events?
23:27.10NeoTronkergoth: is that a performance meter thing?
23:27.26NightHawkTheSaneGaroun|Loupana: the rep grind isnt th at bad. just run steamvaults a bunch ;)
23:27.28kergothyea, can watch events or onupdates for ram / cpu
23:27.38Garoun|Loupanahttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29171
23:27.39kergothi'm sure it taints the world, but you wouldnt run it all the time
23:27.41Garoun|Loupanathat one Xuerian
23:28.01Garoun|Loupanawould much rather have Staff of Natural Fury... but well, that isn't gonna happen
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23:28.39NightHawkTheSanehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27770 huh, this is an interesting trinket.
23:29.10NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29359
23:29.13NeoTronFeral Staff of Lashing
23:29.19NeoTronbetter for tanking than the CE one
23:29.25XuerianGaroun|Loupana: <twitch>
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23:29.32Icerothce lacks stam
23:29.37Icerotharmor is nice but no stam
23:29.38XuerianHoly freaking hell o_0
23:29.58Xuerian... must... get.... bc..... get... staff....
23:29.58Garoun|Loupanayeah I know :)
23:29.59NeoTronproblem is, it's not known wheer it comes from
23:30.01NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron: hmm.. heroic mode drop?
23:30.08Garoun|Loupanathe CE one is the only 'guaranteed' though
23:30.11NeoTronit's sort of low item level for that
23:30.16NightHawkTheSanenot really
23:30.19NightHawkTheSaneilvl 95
23:30.21NeoTronGaroun|Loupana: for sure, it's easy to get relatively speaking
23:30.27NightHawkTheSanewhich is the ilvl used for the epic drops from heroic mode instnaces
23:30.29NeoTronNightHawkTheSane: heroic mode epics seems to be ilevel 100
23:30.37kergothi wish wowhead and the cart instanceloot module distinguished between heroic and non at a glance
23:30.38NightHawkTheSaneI thought they were ilvl 95?
23:30.40kergothrather than itemlevel only
23:30.42NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29242
23:30.43Tornhoofilvl95 i think
23:30.47NeoTronend of slave pens
23:31.21NeoTronperhaps it varies, I'veo nly see one end-of-heroic epic
23:31.34Silverstorm_neuron_ you there?  have a question on nQL
23:31.39_neuron_semi Silverstorm
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23:31.57NightHawkTheSaneNeoTron:  if you look at the other epic drops from that boss, they're ilvl 95
23:32.11Silverstormnoticed that the log updates when an objective updates, but the detail pane has to be closed and re-opened to copy that?  any plan to sync those two?
23:32.12NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29241 murmur also ilevel 100
23:32.38_neuron_Silverstorm, hm, yeah, that'd be easy to fix, just haven't thought about it
23:32.49Garoun|LoupanaI dunno if anyone even really knows where the lashing drops :/
23:32.55Garoun|Loupananothing on head, alla, or thott
23:32.58Silverstormok, I'll leave you a note on the forum thread
23:33.09_neuron_thanks
23:33.12NeoTronso I guess they have bothj
23:33.17NightHawkTheSaneseems so. odd.
23:33.18NeoTronlike one ilevel 100, rest being ilevel 95
23:33.35_neuron_it's just not refreshing that frame that often ;)
23:33.36NightHawkTheSaneyeah. I'd wager the staff is a heroic drop, still
23:33.45NeoTronmakes sense yes
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23:34.26NightHawkTheSaneDidn't know that even existed though. Good to know for the bear tank in my guild :)
23:34.39XuerianBleeding hell that's uber x.x
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23:40.04cncfanaticscan anyone tell me the point of Manufac ?
23:40.11cncfanaticsjust shows all stuff I can make without sorting
23:40.40kergothits supposed to be an alternative interface to crafting, rather than using the blizzard interface, afaik
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23:41.11cncfanaticsno sorting at all available atm it seems
23:41.17cncfanaticswell, at least I can't find any
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23:43.23NightHawkTheSanecncfanatics: erm... it should have things sorted into categories at the least
23:43.49NightHawkTheSaneAlso, i suspect I -may- have too much music, if such a thing were remotely possible.
23:44.06TainInconceivable!
23:44.42cncfanaticsNightHawkTheSane, doesn't sort anything at all for my jewelcrafting
23:45.07RUBiKWTB addon that will cast (possible?) or at least remind me to cast track minerals on a rez.. i *always* forget
23:45.19NightHawkTheSanecncfanatics: ahh, well that could be because it hasn't been updated for that, maybe?
23:45.23kergothRUBiK: smartbuff can
23:45.26kergoththats what i use
23:45.26cncfanaticsI guess
23:45.37RUBiKkergoth: whoa.. i must get! ty
23:45.38Feldiaanyone know if baggins (periodic table?) has been fixed yet?
23:45.42NightHawkTheSaneYou can manually assign categories, though that may be painful
23:45.43Feldiawith the sorting features etc
23:45.45kergothFeldia: ?
23:45.50Nargiddleyfixed how ?
23:45.52kergothworks fine here
23:45.55Feldiahurm
23:46.00Feldiamost of the sorting has broken for me
23:46.08cncfanaticsNightHawkTheSane: how to make ur own ?
23:46.09Feldiait just seperates think into basic groupings
23:46.14kergothremember to recreate the categories based on pt sets if you havent since the switch to pt3
23:46.15Nargiddleyredo your rules, the change to PT3 renamed all sets
23:46.17Thorgard_Feldia, you mean stuff showing up in the 'other' categories and stuff? ;P
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23:46.29Feldiaoh is that what I need? bleh
23:46.44NightHawkTheSanecncfanatics: ahh, go to a recipe, and there should be a "group" menu option that gives you a text entry box, type in the category name you want and hit return. It should put it in that category (adding it if it didn't already exist0
23:46.59Feldiaalright thanks, I'll do that I guess
23:47.04cncfanaticsall items in unsorted are gray
23:47.07cncfanaticscan't do shit with em
23:47.19Feldiano everything is sorted
23:47.24Feldiajust, for example, under "Consumables"
23:47.30FeldiaI only have one category, "misc"
23:47.45cncfanaticsI only have one category, unsorted
23:47.53cncfanaticsjewelcrafter though, probably not made for that yetr
23:47.56Feldiait used to split it into several
23:47.59Feldiafood potions elixirs etc
23:48.41NightHawkTheSanehmm
23:48.45Feldiayea and I'm lookg at it
23:48.53Feldiathere are several categories here for each heading
23:48.57Feldiathey just aren't being sorted
23:49.03cncfanaticsall TBC stuff is unsorted also
23:49.05cncfanaticsfel iron, etc
23:49.10cncfanatics(mining this time)
23:49.22AmadeoLinspire is going to begin basing distributions on Ubuntu instead of Debian
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23:49.49NightHawkTheSaneyeah. all the new TBC stuff isn't put into groups as nymbia hasnt updated the trunk version in a while, it should be usable, and let you put them into your own groups though
23:49.52AmadeoSoon everything will be Ubuntu
23:49.59Amadeoand Ubuntu will be the new MS!
23:50.03cncfanaticsAmadeo, Debian box installed here, but considering ubuntu :p
23:50.09AmadeoWell, Canonical or whatever they are
23:50.42gezrso, I forgot the mods name to help you guys with the new boss fights, could someone help me out, on what I need to do to get you guys up on the encounters?
23:50.42SoBe-can anyone confirm this new patch will add a portal from karazhan door to aran?
23:50.42Feldiait will indeed
23:50.42Feldiaafter aran is killed
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23:50.43SoBe-sweet
23:51.01Amadeocncfanatics: I don't really know the difference, other than the fact that Ubuntu has a lot of third party apps to help people install things, etc
23:51.06nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: yeah. someone sent me a list of some of the low level jeweling stuff but.. need to know what categories to put em in too
23:51.47cncfanaticsyea Amadeo
23:51.50cncfanaticsthats why I cba to switch
23:51.57cncfanaticsbut if I do have to reinstall, i will install ubuntu
23:52.05cncfanaticsnymbia, I got a 360 jewelcrafter
23:52.09cncfanaticsI'm sure I can help
23:52.15cncfanaticsand mining too, fel iron and such is left unsorted
23:52.21gezrcncfanatics : does your nick have anything to do with cnc motion control?
23:52.30cncfanaticsnope gezr
23:52.52cncfanaticsoh and nymbia, u can't craft unsorted stuff, bug ?
23:52.53NightHawkTheSanecncfanatics: yeah, im checking on my JC'er too, hes only 70something, but you should be able to manually sort into groups if you wanted. Just go Unsorted->some recipe->Grouping and enter the group you want, that doesn't work?
23:53.13cncfanaticseverything in the unsorted tab is grayed out
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23:53.23NightHawkTheSaneweird
23:53.37nymbiaoh that's the skill level coloring
23:53.40gezrany of you guys had any luck in karazhan?
23:53.52Feldialuck? not really
23:53.56Feldiacleared pretty well all of it htough
23:53.58Feldia:P
23:54.25cncfanaticswell nymbia, I can't select anything, the tab's dont expand any further
23:54.36Feldiaahh
23:54.39gezrmoroes caused some problems with no palys, were on to the juilet event heh
23:54.40FeldiaI just freshly installed baggins
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23:54.43Feldiaand it's all being sorted properly now
23:54.51nymbiacncfanatics: using the branch or trunk?
23:55.09cncfanaticstrunk
23:55.33cncfanaticsusing the zip from 10 mins ago actualy
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23:55.39nymbiacncfanatics: hm
23:55.43CIA-1703nargiddley * r27658 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
23:55.43CIA-17Baggins:
23:55.44CIA-17- Specialty Bag empty slots will now compress properly
23:55.54kergothNargiddley: woot, that one was annoying :)
23:58.00CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r27659 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua:
23:58.00CIA-17Manufac:
23:58.00CIA-17- Be less terrible about fetching the skill level.
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23:58.56NeoTronNargiddley: any progress in making baggings somewhat less chaotic in the item group placements? :)
23:59.34Nargiddleynot yet
23:59.58Nargiddleyhopefully get the config done this weekend, then i'll work on that

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