00:00.00 | NeoTron | dunno |
00:00.05 | Pneumatus | i assumed the next patch would be 2.1.0 |
00:00.06 | Myrathi | Heh. Everyone calls the WAU by its abbrev form but there's no wiki redirect page for it. :P Tsk. |
00:00.13 | NeoTron | best ever "Players can no longer send gift wrapped packages via COD." |
00:00.33 | NeoTron | seems like quitea minor patch to put on the ptrs |
00:00.36 | GnomeTank | Pneumatus: That would be the next content patch, which I am assuming is WAY off....think the Dire Maul patch after release :) What was it, five months? |
00:00.51 | Pneumatus | there are already preliminary patch notes for 2.1.0 up |
00:01.06 | GnomeTank | I am assuming some of the 25-mans will come open in 2.1.0 |
00:01.18 | nymbia | GnomeTank: er.. dire mail was a long, long time after release. try maraudon. ;) |
00:01.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I wouldn't be surprised if we 2.1 within 1-2 months |
00:01.32 | GnomeTank | okay, maura was still, what? four months? |
00:01.39 | GnomeTank | admittedly, the patching process at release was horrid |
00:01.46 | shieldb | NeoTron, I don't think that will ever make up for not being able to gift wrap stackable items, though |
00:01.51 | nymbia | GnomeTank: a month and a half maybe. lemme look at the notes... |
00:02.17 | GnomeTank | Nah, it was way longer than that...I remember the up roar about how long it was |
00:02.18 | Pneumatus | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
00:02.23 | GnomeTank | because so many major bugs were sitting htere unfixed |
00:02.35 | shieldb | Being unable to gift wrap and send a piece of coal to every member of my guild around the holidays made me sad |
00:02.41 | ckknight | I just want texture rotation without bleeding... |
00:03.06 | nymbia | GnomeTank: World of Warcraft Client Patch 1.2.0 (2004-12-21), so 29 days after release. |
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00:03.17 | Pneumatus | 2.1.0 is gonna bring the addon memory fixes which will actually cause it to GC |
00:03.39 | GnomeTank | nymbia: Hmm...maybe it was the 1.2 to 1.3 gap then that was so long it caused everyone to have a cow |
00:04.03 | ckknight | I came in at 1.8 |
00:04.09 | Scre3m | nql is great! but it doesn't do what EQL does |
00:04.13 | Pneumatus | i started on 1.5 or somethin |
00:04.32 | GnomeTank | hehe, I was there on release night...oh the joy! |
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00:04.56 | GnomeTank | actually, it wasn't so bad at midnight of release night...the next day at around ~3pm when the kids got out of school...see ya servers |
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00:05.37 | GnomeTank | the TBC related lag/crashes were cake frosting compared to the WoW release day |
00:05.42 | Pneumatus | scratch that, i started playing in 1.3, dire maul was new |
00:05.50 | NeoTron | well I think we're good on 25 mans |
00:05.51 | art3mis | 1.4 for me |
00:05.55 | ckknight | I still wanna know how many people took sick days on TBC release |
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00:06.02 | NeoTron | two small 25 mans, 2 large 25 mans in game |
00:06.03 | Myrathi | That's it. I'm fed up with this IntelliTXT advertising bullshit. Talk about unrelated pish. |
00:06.07 | nymbia | GnomeTank: yeah 1.3.0 was 2005-03-22, so a few months gap there. and that was fire maul |
00:06.08 | GnomeTank | I didn't for TBC, but I took a two week vacation for WoW 1.0 release |
00:06.14 | NeoTron | sorry |
00:06.15 | Pneumatus | - World of Warcraft Client Patch 1.3.0 (2005-03-22) |
00:06.15 | NeoTron | 3 25 mans |
00:06.17 | NeoTron | forgot hyjal |
00:06.22 | nymbia | s/fire/dire/ |
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00:07.00 | shieldb | Myrathi, firefox + adblock plus + adblock filterset.g updater + noscript? |
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00:07.31 | shieldb | I haven't really seen any advertising on the web at all for over a year I think, other then a few things here or there |
00:08.08 | GnomeTank | NoScript just annoys me...the rest of those addons are good |
00:08.18 | Pneumatus | i have all those except noscript |
00:08.23 | Pneumatus | but i block js with adblock |
00:08.37 | Chinku | nymbia: would you mind having a look at manufac to find out why it messes up the item list when you learn new stuff to craft? |
00:08.44 | shieldb | I like noscript now, but it was kind of a pain at first because I had to unblock so many sites :) |
00:09.24 | nymbia | Chinku: got any errors? |
00:10.16 | Chinku | nymbia: not at all, just the first level menu being somehow confused; got menu entries without a name and such. |
00:11.04 | nymbia | Chinku: hmm.. screenshot maybe? |
00:11.08 | GnomeTank | anyway, *poof* I'm gone...time to go brave Houston traffic to get home |
00:11.34 | Chinku | nymbia: narf. forgot about that, sorry. don't have one atm. |
00:13.23 | nymbia | Chinku: ok. well i've mostly been working on the redone version of manufac.. so my real concern is wether stitch is handling the new recipe properly.. so next time you learn something and it does it, grab a screenshot if you can :) |
00:14.45 | Chinku | nymbia: aye. just put a huge note in front of my screen for not to forget. ;-) |
00:14.56 | nymbia | Chinku: :) |
00:15.43 | Chinku | nymbia: looking forward for that rewritten version of manufac. :-) i'm especially interested if that silly issue in combination with auctioneer will disappear... |
00:16.49 | nymbia | Chinku: yeah i'll get auctioneer support working again |
00:18.07 | nymbia | Chinku: and for the fubar plugin it lets you view all the professions at once instead of having to reopen each one |
00:18.39 | Chinku | nymbia: not sure whether it's caused by manufac or by auctioneer. it's about invisible frames on the screen that catch mouse-over events and show auctioneer tooltips. |
00:19.26 | Chinku | nymbia: most annoying is that these invisible items also block mouse clicks as long as the trade skill icon in the action bar is active. |
00:19.38 | nymbia | Chinku: well manufac only makes one frame that isn't a dropdown menu, and it's never mouse enabled |
00:20.03 | nymbia | Chinku: hover over them and do /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
00:20.22 | Chinku | nymbia: ah, ok. added that to the note :-) |
00:20.29 | nymbia | :) |
00:21.11 | Chinku | nymbia: but let's postpone that one until you release the refactored manufac. |
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00:21.45 | Chinku | nymbia: I got used to it now, and it's easy to avoid for the time being. |
00:22.01 | nymbia | Chinku: the invisible frames you mean? |
00:22.40 | durcyn | Chinku: based on my experience, those are quite possibly tradeskill frames |
00:22.42 | Chinku | nymbia: right. workaround is to simply switch off the active trade skill button and it goes away. i'm fine with that ;-) |
00:23.18 | durcyn | which might happen if they were hidden with, oh... setalpha instead of :hide? |
00:23.40 | CIA-17 | 03rophy * r27587 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (3 files): |
00:23.41 | CIA-17 | SimpleUnitFrames: |
00:23.41 | CIA-17 | - Fixed Party and Target PortraitDamage strata. |
00:24.20 | Chinku | durcyn: yes, you're probably right. |
00:24.28 | nymbia | Chinku: oh weird. Manufac hides and :EnableMouse(false)'s those, something else must be undoing that. moot point though -- the new manufac handles that much more smoothly. :) |
00:24.30 | Chinku | will check that tomorrow |
00:25.19 | Chinku | nymbia: that's why I suggested to postpone it - repairing a soon-to-be outdated version makes no sense, I think ;-) |
00:25.47 | nymbia | Chinku: yeah, just wanted to make sure that it wasnt something weird that i hadnt yet dealt with |
00:26.51 | Chinku | nymbia: hopefully I will be able to give you more detailed info with the help of that line of code you posted. |
00:27.26 | nymbia | Chinku: if they're on the left side of the screen then it's definitely the ones i'm thinking of. |
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00:28.54 | Chinku | nymbia: maybe. I almost always encountered them when trying to select group members via the party frame (on the left of my screen) or trying to target enemies (usually somewhere in the center). |
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00:29.52 | Chinku | nymbia: but well, however, me be gone now; as usual it's again 1:30 a.m. here. ;-) |
00:30.02 | Chinku | good night everyone :-) |
00:30.13 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27588 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
00:30.13 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
00:30.13 | CIA-17 | - Some weird temporary tweaks to make positioning work, get rid of some old BlizzUI disabling code. |
00:30.20 | nymbia | night Chinku :) |
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00:57.29 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r27591 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua: |
00:57.29 | CIA-17 | Stitch-1.0: |
00:57.29 | CIA-17 | - Use API functions instead of text on the Tradeskill frame to determine the open tradeskill. |
00:57.29 | CIA-17 | - Fix some leading spaces |
01:01.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm thinking I should turn off join/leave messages. >< |
01:01.40 | vhaarr | I did that 5 years ago, I've never looked back. |
01:04.22 | Teshnor | anyone know how to open a baggins bag with macro? |
01:06.08 | winkiller | anyone knows the order of the arcatraz bosses |
01:06.11 | winkiller | ? |
01:06.29 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27592 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Attumen.lua: |
01:06.29 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Attumen: |
01:06.29 | CIA-17 | - drycoded 'attempt' at adding curse warnings for afflicted warriors |
01:07.33 | NightHawkTheSane | winkiller: Zereketh the Unbound, Wrath-Scryer Soccothrates/Dalliah the Doomsayer, Harbinger Skyriss |
01:07.46 | NightHawkTheSane | (the middle two are in the same room and can be done in any order) |
01:08.07 | winkiller | and warden mellichar? |
01:08.37 | winkiller | the wowwiki article-navi is broken, wanted to fix that. but now wowwiki has loading problems, gnah :) |
01:08.54 | durcyn | warden mellichar isn't a boss, he's a gatekeeper for the skyriss event |
01:09.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Warden Mellichar is not a boss |
01:09.15 | NightHawkTheSane | er, yeah, what durcyn said |
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01:09.36 | winkiller | thanks |
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01:13.01 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: Can i convince you to upload hotcandy to one of the three mod sites? |
01:13.19 | cladhaire | please |
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01:13.54 | cladhaire | i want to cover it in the book,. but i can't if its not somewhere. |
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01:14.26 | Ironhand | can someone tell me how I can call up the normal portrait right-click menu while running ag_UnitFrames? |
01:14.46 | ilifin | right click the frames...? |
01:15.00 | Ironhand | that gets me the aguf config menu |
01:15.05 | ilifin | eh |
01:15.10 | ilifin | that happens only if you hold alt down |
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01:15.22 | Ironhand | I'm rather sure that I'm not holding alt... |
01:15.42 | ilifin | and I'm rather sure that rightclicking does pop the proper menu and alt rightclick pops the config .p |
01:16.00 | Ironhand | hmmmmm... |
01:16.13 | ilifin | I'd try updating to latest |
01:16.18 | ilifin | or even downgrading |
01:16.28 | ilifin | since ag_uf is very prone to break on update |
01:16.51 | Teshnor | weeei... /script Baggins:ToggleBag(bagId) |
01:16.54 | Teshnor | nice macro :P |
01:16.54 | Ironhand | thx - I'll try a downgrade |
01:17.14 | ilifin | Ironhand - rememeber, always delete the old folder first with ace mods :x |
01:17.18 | ilifin | if you're doing zips anyway |
01:17.26 | Ironhand | I do that regardless |
01:17.35 | Ironhand | running r27352 atm btw |
01:17.42 | binder | is there an ace mod similar to expense history? |
01:18.49 | ilifin | I dunno what expense history is - if you're looking for something that counts how much money you've spent/lost over sessions days or weeks, moneyfu does that |
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01:19.22 | binder | yep |
01:19.33 | binder | does it break it down by like repairs etc? |
01:19.56 | ilifin | that it doesn't |
01:20.03 | ilifin | it only shows overall expenses |
01:21.41 | binder | ok |
01:22.01 | ilifin | Ironhand - updated to the revision you had; I can right click |
01:22.04 | binder | I'm just trying to figure what mods are screwing up cartographer's cordinates |
01:22.08 | vhaarr | ckknight: So, I had a AceModuleCore-2.0 that did :SetModuleMixins("AceDB-2.0") and in OnInitialize of the modules, I called the core with a :RegisterModule(self.name, self), and that in turn did a module.db = self:AcquireDBNamespace(...) and a self:RegisterDefaults(name, ...) - this, of course, caused an error, but the error was quite strange. |
01:22.35 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r27593 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua: |
01:22.35 | CIA-17 | Stitch-1.0: |
01:22.35 | CIA-17 | - Fix for caching items in the wrong table when switching immediately between tradeskills. |
01:22.39 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27594 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: |
01:22.39 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden: |
01:22.39 | CIA-17 | - clarify the ~33 seconds |
01:22.40 | CIA-17 | - slightly earlier warning |
01:22.40 | CIA-17 | - start bar/announce from engage |
01:22.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: It errored on line 1613 in AceDB-2.0, with something like "Could not access self.db.raw, try self.db["raw"]". |
01:22.47 | Ironhand | thanks ilifin, I just tried an older version and I can right click now as well... guess I'll have to hunt down which version breaks it |
01:23.18 | vhaarr | In function AceDB:IsActive(). |
01:23.51 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27595 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Moroes.lua: |
01:23.51 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Moroes: |
01:23.51 | CIA-17 | - fix blind warning |
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01:35.45 | Ironhand | ilifin: after going back to the newest version it works ok now - the fact that the newest version still shows its own version at r25259 doesn't help though... |
01:38.29 | ilifin | weird o_o |
01:39.05 | Andune | ~seen sylvanaar |
01:39.35 | purl | sylvanaar is currently on #wowace (1d 3h 36m 15s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 6h 9m 30s, last said: 'well, english is the international language'. |
01:39.35 | Ironhand | oh well, stranger things have happened |
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01:43.18 | PogoTribal | BT3 not showing GCD? Pretty serious bug there... |
01:43.37 | copystring__ | is there a way to manually quere the realm for an item? |
01:43.42 | copystring__ | *query |
01:44.14 | Gigaknight | awesome. my warlock was permabanned for "Economy Exploitation", just after Blizzard restored the warlock's items after the account was hijacked. :s |
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01:46.33 | nymbia | how do you pull off "Economy Exploitation"? |
01:47.02 | SoBe- | selling your arcatraz key |
01:47.04 | SoBe- | for 2.5g |
01:47.09 | SoBe- | and getting a new one from a'dal over and over |
01:47.13 | SoBe- | and making ~1500g/hr |
01:47.17 | nymbia | ahhh |
01:47.17 | Gigaknight | I think that's the general category for "selling everything on a character and his bags" |
01:47.23 | SoBe- | and you got perma banned Gigaknight? everoyne i knew only had 72hr |
01:47.37 | SoBe- | or were you banned for some other eco exploit |
01:47.45 | Gigaknight | Access to this account has been permanently disabled for exploitation of the World of Warcraft economy or for being associated to accounts which have been closed for intended exploitation |
01:48.06 | PogoTribal | I'm the only one without global cooldowns showing up on my action bars? |
01:49.06 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27596 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
01:49.06 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
01:49.06 | CIA-17 | - Fix menu position setting |
01:55.37 | Myrathi | Ah. That's why I never updated to QuestFu: you can't hover over quest entries and see the description text in a tooltip. Kinda like that feature of MQ :\ |
01:56.21 | Myrathi | And you can't manually widen/lock the detached tablet, either. -_- |
01:56.34 | Myrathi | Er.. widen+lock, even. |
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01:59.30 | PogoTribal | I'm the only one without global cooldowns showing up on my action bars? |
01:59.49 | PogoTribal | This is really fucking annoying. |
02:00.39 | Silviu- | PogoTribal yes i guess ;) |
02:00.42 | Silviu- | Atme works |
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02:03.18 | PogoTribal | I'm using BT3 and CDC |
02:03.29 | Silviu- | Bt3 and Omnicc |
02:03.30 | PogoTribal | It's not CDC cus I just disabled it, so I have some kind of problem with BT3. |
02:03.57 | Yinchie | use omnicc |
02:04.00 | Silviu- | But u want in numbers u mean ? |
02:04.10 | PogoTribal | I mean the global cooldown, not cooldown timers. |
02:04.12 | Silviu- | and global cooldown of 1.5s ? |
02:04.27 | PogoTribal | It's not fading out the icons for 1.5 seconds after casting. |
02:04.37 | Silviu- | Ahm strange at me it does |
02:08.10 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27597 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-Defaults.lua Manufac-DefaultsBase.lua): |
02:08.10 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
02:08.10 | CIA-17 | - Update defaults with a lot of new Alchemy and Cooking stuff. |
02:10.07 | Silviu- | PogoTribal http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot020907040524gi2.jpg this u mean ? |
02:10.31 | PogoTribal | Correct. |
02:11.08 | Silviu- | Don`t know :/ |
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02:12.09 | Burton | silviu> you have ag_unitframes right? |
02:12.37 | PogoTribal | OmniCC isn't on the aceupdater? |
02:13.48 | Silviu- | Burton yes |
02:13.56 | Silviu- | PogoTribal no is on wowi |
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02:14.02 | Burton | are your aguf castbars jerky...? |
02:14.16 | Silviu- | jerky ? |
02:14.27 | Burton | "not smooth" |
02:14.38 | Silviu- | Not using them atm |
02:14.39 | Silviu- | :) |
02:14.43 | Silviu- | PogoTribal http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4836-OmniCooldownCount.html |
02:14.45 | PogoTribal | wowi has the worst fucking searching system ever seen |
02:14.52 | Silviu- | Yes, true |
02:14.52 | Silviu- | :) |
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02:15.08 | PogoTribal | if I search for OmniCooldownCount, I don't even get it |
02:15.09 | Silviu- | U search for Omni and is on second page |
02:15.12 | Silviu- | But .. :) |
02:15.17 | Silviu- | Is separated |
02:15.18 | Silviu- | :) |
02:15.25 | PogoTribal | it's absolutely retarded |
02:15.28 | Silviu- | Omni Cooldown Count |
02:15.33 | PogoTribal | the search results make no sense whatsoever |
02:15.49 | Silviu- | I pasted u the link |
02:15.50 | Silviu- | :) |
02:16.15 | PogoTribal | lol, I searched Omni Cooldown Count and it's not even on the first page, I got a whole page filled with compilations. |
02:16.18 | PogoTribal | Yeah, thanks Silviu |
02:16.43 | Silviu- | No problem |
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02:17.06 | Silviu- | Damn, farming is booring ... |
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02:20.35 | PogoTribal | Still getting the problem |
02:21.17 | Silviu- | PogoTribal, suggestion backup your Bt3 savedvar, del Bt3 folder redownload it full .. and delete savedvar |
02:21.19 | Silviu- | :P |
02:21.21 | Silviu- | And see |
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02:22.05 | PogoTribal | no need, cyCircled was causing the problem |
02:22.39 | Silviu- | I have cycircled too |
02:22.40 | Silviu- | o.O |
02:27.03 | CIA-17 | 03laotseu * r27598 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua): |
02:27.03 | CIA-17 | AllPlayed: |
02:27.03 | CIA-17 | - Add sort by % rest and reverse % rest |
02:28.08 | PogoTribal | Ok I just disabled and enabled all my BT3 bars and it seems to work fine now |
02:30.14 | PogoTribal | CooldownCount-1.1\CooldownCount.lua:111: 'string.gfind' was renamed to 'string.gmatch' |
02:30.14 | PogoTribal | CooldownCount-1.1\CooldownCount.lua:111: in function `editBoxFunc' |
02:30.15 | PogoTribal | Dewdrop-2.0-27511 (DewdropLib):2038: in function <...erface\AddOns\DewdropLib\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:2024> |
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02:38.44 | tjs | so is it against the TOS to submit info about your characters bank/inventory to a website? |
02:39.39 | Silviu- | Question, how do i disable receiving notes from my guild ? they spam me with fishing notes ( Cartographer ) |
02:39.41 | tjs | was just pondering on the idea of a WoW market-place off-realm |
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02:40.26 | tjs | an addon that would let you go through your bank/bags. and flag items as 'for sale', when you log out they would be posted to a website that would let people browse items and bid (like the AH) for their particular realm |
02:40.46 | tjs | regardless of faction, etc |
02:41.08 | mok | today i got ingame spam for something like this |
02:41.38 | tjs | spam ftl :/ |
02:41.50 | mok | silviu- i think u have to use the noteshare module to filter incoming notes |
02:42.34 | Silviu- | mok thx |
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02:48.42 | mok | np |
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02:59.48 | Kemayo | Myrathi: Well, you can lock the tablet. Widening has actually recently become possible, but I don't believe there are menu options for it in FuBar yet. |
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03:09.09 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27599 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: |
03:09.09 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden: |
03:09.09 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE, thanks to Deli |
03:14.08 | chutwig | they published 2.0.7 PTR notes if anyone didn't see |
03:14.15 | chutwig | very few changes of import |
03:14.16 | Funkeh` | where |
03:14.41 | Funkeh` | link? ^^ |
03:15.00 | chutwig | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
03:15.58 | Funkeh` | ty |
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03:17.23 | Silviu- | And ui changes ? ;) |
03:17.36 | Silviu- | is 2.1.0 changes in already or ? |
03:17.58 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27600 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-enUS.lua Manufac.lua): |
03:17.58 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
03:17.58 | CIA-17 | - Refresh line when profession data is needed. |
03:24.11 | Funkeh` | nn |
03:24.34 | Funkeh` | away for the weekend, forum pm me if you want something :p |
03:27.44 | SoBe- | wow, chess event is like free loot |
03:28.06 | vhaarr | Anyone know if I can somehow lock an EditBox? |
03:43.38 | nymbia | vhaarr: like.. freeze the text? |
03:45.00 | vhaarr | nymbia: yeah |
03:46.26 | nymbia | vhaarr: :EnableKeyboard(false) might work |
03:46.56 | vhaarr | nymbia: I'll try it out, thanks. |
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03:50.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Funky - you have everything you need for romulo and julianne, or would another transcript help? |
03:51.13 | _neuron_ | ffs... getting instant disconnected when I login now |
03:51.50 | _neuron_ | logging out while on windrider wasn't such a great idea I guess |
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03:57.35 | SoBe- | ahh shade of aran |
03:57.36 | SoBe- | die =/ |
03:57.43 | SoBe- | this fight is like thaddius |
03:57.48 | SoBe- | thank god its only 10 people |
03:57.54 | SoBe- | because 1 dumbass screws it up for all |
04:07.21 | Silverstorm | neuron, any luck with the right-align on the quest/objective progress? |
04:08.12 | vhaarr | pwnage commit inc |
04:08.14 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27601 10BugSack/ (5 files): |
04:08.14 | CIA-17 | BugSack: |
04:08.14 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.14 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.14 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.19 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.53 | vhaarr | Someone please test the error communications, it's 100% drycoded. |
04:10.04 | vhaarr | I won't be able to test it until tomorrow. |
04:12.05 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: add http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28112 to pt3 please |
04:12.25 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: k |
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04:19.24 | Silviu- | vhaarr no errors, but atm don`t have with noone to test :) |
04:19.33 | vhaarr | Silviu-: :P |
04:20.53 | ilifin | amazing |
04:21.04 | ilifin | I'm one of 4 players on the EU 2.0.7 PTRs at the momen |
04:22.22 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27602 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: |
04:22.22 | CIA-17 | BugSack: |
04:22.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
04:22.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
04:22.57 | lhunath | is there some kind of general central for suggestions/bug reports, like an ace bugzilla; rather than having to say it here on irc and hope some dev reads it? |
04:23.06 | vhaarr | Forums. |
04:24.25 | Silviu- | vhaarr can u add opt to send to /party/guild ? |
04:24.25 | Silviu- | Maybe |
04:24.31 | vhaarr | Silviu-: No. |
04:24.34 | Silviu- | Ok |
04:25.57 | vhaarr | I just tested it by sending bugs to myself, at least that worked fine :P |
04:26.00 | vhaarr | Anyway, I'm off. |
04:26.07 | Silviu- | Sleep well |
04:26.08 | Silviu- | :) |
04:27.06 | Arrowmaster | we need a tabcomplete for dewdrop textbox's |
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04:34.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone familiar with the Romulo and Julianne right in Kharazan? |
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04:39.33 | PHL-Chuck | do kc items do basic scanning and price estimation for posting items like auctioneer? |
04:39.46 | PHL-Chuck | does* |
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04:47.52 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r27603 10Epeen/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Epeen - Added Stats and KoS/Friendly Buttons on Target |
04:49.06 | Velkyn | Anyone know if the waypoint no longer saving in Cart is intentional? |
04:49.54 | Silviu- | Velkyn feature :) |
04:51.38 | Velkyn | Silviu: Anyway to change a setting so they save? |
04:52.12 | Velkyn | Silviu: Spending the time to input all of the quest waypoints for a zone everytime I login/out... isn't "helpfull" |
04:52.55 | nuOHEP_ | set them as notes? |
04:54.58 | Velkyn | Can you set a note from the command line? |
04:56.33 | Silviu- | ./note ? |
04:57.46 | Velkyn | Silviu: Let me get in game and check it out, so "/note X Y <description>" should work just like /tloc use to? |
04:58.14 | Silviu- | Yes i guess |
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04:59.25 | Velkyn | Silviu: Thank you sir. |
04:59.38 | Wobin | hi2uall from ubuntu =) |
04:59.44 | Silviu- | Velkyn no problem |
04:59.55 | Wobin | can anyone suggest a relatively easy to use irc program in linux? =) |
05:00.01 | Wobin | cause gaim aint cutting it |
05:00.18 | vid` | i used bitchx when i used to use nix |
05:00.40 | vid` | if you want something graphical tho i dunno |
05:00.46 | Wobin | yeah |
05:00.50 | Wobin | I'd prefer graphical |
05:00.54 | Wobin | just cause I'm more used to it |
05:01.44 | Wobin | oh hey xchat |
05:03.08 | NightHawkTheSane | xchat wins. |
05:04.46 | Wobin | hm, can anyone point me to some page which can tell me about aptitude and/or apt-get and how to use it properly? |
05:08.32 | SlackerJer | aptitude update; aptitude install <packagename> |
05:09.51 | Wobin | *<3s google* |
05:10.01 | Wobin | Aye, I had to uncomment some sources |
05:10.39 | Wobin | I have to say |
05:10.47 | Wobin | The whole apt-get thing? |
05:10.50 | Wobin | lovely. |
05:10.57 | NightHawkTheSane | apt owns. |
05:11.14 | Wobin | hehe now I have to try getting WoW running =P |
05:11.19 | Wobin | lets get Cedega =P |
05:11.30 | cynyr_ | okay i'm probably just a noob, but i can't seem to get poisonfu to apply poisons.... |
05:11.40 | Wobin | It no longer can, I believe =( |
05:11.54 | cynyr_ | i just ready that... :( |
05:12.04 | Wobin | since there's no ability for dewdrop to apply stuff |
05:12.20 | Wobin | I'm using 'Poisoner' |
05:12.27 | Wobin | which is quite small and effective |
05:12.30 | cynyr_ | hmm i'll look at that |
05:12.40 | Wobin | possibly on wowi, most likely on curse |
05:12.57 | cynyr_ | Wobin: thats all i want.. no opening my bag and char just to do that every 20-30 minutes |
05:13.46 | Wobin | aye, that's why I liked it =) simple and to the point |
05:16.53 | cynyr_ | cartographer_trainers and whats was the other one that left the svn the otherday? |
05:20.11 | Arrowmaster | vendors |
05:20.41 | Arrowmaster | who put the highlighting stuff in questfu? |
05:21.50 | cynyr_ | Wobin: btw wow plays just fine under WINE |
05:22.45 | cynyr_ | Wobin: just don't need to change video settings in game, you have to eaither do it in the Config.wtf |
05:24.33 | Silverstorm | Wobin, I'm using Chatzilla...built into Firefox |
05:25.48 | cynyr_ | it's built into FF, i thought it was only a part of seamonkey... |
05:26.09 | Silverstorm | Tools > Chatzilla |
05:26.56 | cynyr_ | hmm did not know that |
05:29.29 | cynyr_ | s/like/likes |
05:29.33 | cynyr_ | <PROTECTED> |
05:30.55 | fatbrain | cynyr_: why not correct that typo with another substitution? ;) |
05:31.19 | Silverstorm | it's left as an exercise to the reader |
05:31.34 | fatbrain | hehe, beeing not me... :P |
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05:34.30 | cynyr_ | fatbrain: purl isn't smart to do it recursivly |
05:36.37 | Myrathi | ~seen Kemayo |
05:37.01 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (4d 21h 53m 9s) #wowace (4d 21h 53m 9s). Has said a total of 109 messages. Is idling for 2h 37m 13s, last said: 'Myrathi: Well, you can lock the tablet. Widening has actually recently become possible, but I don't believe there are menu options for it in FuBar yet.'. |
05:37.01 | chutwig | <PROTECTED> |
05:37.51 | Myrathi | Kemayo, ping |
05:38.06 | fatbrain | What inventory/bag replacement mod are you guys using? |
05:38.31 | Myrathi | OneBag/Bank/View/Storage |
05:38.35 | Silverstorm | ArkInventory |
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05:42.36 | ckknight | hello, friends |
05:43.53 | Silverstorm | hey ck, I noticed the Mana Looms show in Cart_POI, but Moonwells don't seem to. Should that be expected? |
05:43.57 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: was it you that added that highlighting to questfu? |
05:44.30 | Arrowmaster | guards will tell you where mana looms are, dont think theyll tell you where moonwells are |
05:45.33 | ckknight | Silverstorm: no idea |
05:45.41 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I added highlighting |
05:45.52 | Arrowmaster | I've got highlighted on me |
05:45.58 | Silverstorm | ok Arrow, thanks |
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05:50.53 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r27604 10Epeen/modules/Stats.lua: Epeen - Fixed Small Bug |
05:51.31 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: hrm? |
05:51.34 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
05:51.37 | ckknight | it highlights your name? |
05:51.38 | Benumbed | arrowmaster I think the ones in bc will if it in there town |
05:51.52 | ckknight | that can't really be prevented, as it highlights capitalized words |
05:52.00 | ckknight | and special words (directions) |
05:52.04 | Arrowmaster | no it highlighted "I've" |
05:52.26 | Kemayo | Myrathi: You pinged? |
05:53.31 | Benumbed | hmm that was for silverstorm, not arrowmaster =x |
05:54.09 | Silverstorm | ok, I haven't looked...just thought of it as I ran past a moonwell and transmuted a cloth |
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05:57.38 | Benumbed | I dont think they get added cause afaik (havent checked), you dont get the lil tooltip (moonwell) like you do on mana loom |
05:58.10 | Arrowmaster | moonwells have a tooltip |
05:58.58 | Benumbed | oh =x |
06:04.13 | Andune | ckknight: sorry if it's a common question.. any idea why when I'm in an instance and bring up map, it shows instance map for 2-5 seconds and then jumps out to world map? |
06:04.23 | ckknight | no |
06:04.37 | Andune | (cartographer) |
06:04.50 | Andune | hmm must be some other mod screwin with cartographer then. i'll play around with it.. |
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06:29.03 | sbu | morning :) |
06:31.11 | ckknight | pants are too overbearing |
06:31.11 | ckknight | I say we abolish them and move on to kilts |
06:31.31 | chutwig | secretly an exhibitionist, eh |
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06:32.39 | sbu | errr - opera event is evil :/ |
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06:32.53 | sbu | any1 knows if you need to clear opera if you want to go to curator? :/ |
06:33.52 | sbu | we have romulo & julianne :/ |
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06:36.31 | Silverstorm | if I know the name of an XML frame, how can I check it's visibility in a /script command? |
06:36.44 | Nargiddley | name:IsVisible() |
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06:37.24 | Silverstorm | cool, thanks |
06:38.01 | ckknight | Silverstorm: use /print |
06:38.15 | Silverstorm | sweet! I didn't know that slash command |
06:40.47 | Silverstorm | now I can keybind nQL to show or not, until neuron gets that added |
06:41.01 | Nickenyfiken | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6852-Nameplatesmodifier.html <-- hmm i didnt know it was possible to change those |
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06:46.45 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r27605 10Epeen/modules/Tooltip.lua: Epeen - Fixed Typo |
06:46.46 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27606 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Notes/Cartographer_Waypoints - now accepts 54.23 as a substitute for 54,23 |
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07:00.47 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r27607 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Notes: frFR fix. |
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07:17.49 | binder | there's gotta be a faster way to level fishing |
07:18.41 | NightHawkTheSane | pay someone else to do it for you |
07:18.45 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
07:18.55 | binder | I wanna be able to fish motes in nagrand |
07:19.16 | NightHawkTheSane | its not really a great way to get motes of water, i dont think |
07:20.27 | CIA-17 | 03fin * r27608 10Prat/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: fixed slash command name; fixed main name position setting; added option to specify colour of displayed main names |
07:21.47 | PProvost | Can I play the sound files baked into the game w/out extracting them first? Is there an addressing scheme for getting them? |
07:25.28 | ckknight | so I'm thinking that I should work on something |
07:25.35 | ckknight | such as a good ParserLib |
07:25.49 | nymbia | ckknight: that'd be pretty awesome |
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07:27.04 | ckknight | blah |
07:27.06 | ckknight | closed lid accidentally |
07:27.08 | ckknight | nymbia: yea, I think it could be quite useful |
07:27.10 | ckknight | and I know the author of MSBT is interested |
07:27.27 | ckknight | cause, I mean, I've been working on Cartographer for a while |
07:27.36 | ckknight | and it's about as complete as I can get it, the rest is up to third-parties |
07:28.28 | nymbia | ckknight: it'd certainly make pursuing an ace damagemeter addon a lot more doable |
07:28.39 | PProvost | ckk... you know you can disable the "standby on close" feature right? :) |
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07:29.06 | ckknight | PProvost: I've tried |
07:29.14 | ckknight | and frankly, I like standby on close |
07:29.18 | PProvost | Fair enuff |
07:29.23 | PProvost | No thoughts on my sound question? |
07:29.33 | ckknight | PlaySound("name") |
07:29.41 | ckknight | does an ingame sound |
07:30.11 | PProvost | Okay... no path or anything magic then? |
07:30.22 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
07:30.25 | ckknight | frankly, I don't know |
07:30.27 | Arrowmaster | theres a list on wowwiki of different sounds |
07:30.54 | PProvost | Cool. Thanks. |
07:34.16 | neenee | ~seen naenee |
07:34.39 | purl | naenee <i=naenee@a62-251-64-42.adsl.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 30d 19h 58m 34s ago, saying: 'evl: I think that's the 'no gimmick' part'. |
07:36.37 | PProvost | Bummer... not seeing the voidwalker sounds there... :) |
07:37.12 | ckknight | MSBT could be optimized, just by reading it |
07:38.16 | Arrowmaster | PProvost: i think you can only do the interface sounds with PlaySound(), you might be able to find the location of the other sounds in the mpq's and use PlaySoundFile() |
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07:38.57 | Kaelten | ello |
07:39.04 | PProvost | Yeah, that is what I was originally asking... how do I address those w/out extracting them? Is there a special path construct? |
07:39.40 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | WAU 1.7beta4 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. | Want to help fix Cartographer's instance notes? read the README.txt in Cartographer_InstanceNotes for details |
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07:40.51 | Beo`Gi`Oh | Question about Bartender3. When I change a skill on bar #1, say Shoot to Attack, it also changes on #2. |
07:40.59 | Beo`Gi`Oh | Somehow I cloned them. How do I undo that? |
07:41.12 | ckknight | shift-mousewheel |
07:41.26 | Beo`Gi`Oh | Nope, I have that unbound. |
07:42.49 | Beo`Gi`Oh | Login/out fixed it. Strange. |
07:46.33 | Arrowmaster | PProvost: just address them like they are extraced, thats how blizzards mpq stuff has always worked |
07:51.08 | PProvost | thx |
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07:55.11 | binder | you can import gatherer database into cartographer? |
07:55.51 | Tupsi | yes |
07:55.59 | binder | under what setting? |
07:56.11 | Tupsi | you need an extra import addon |
07:56.20 | binder | I thought I grabbed it |
07:56.38 | Tupsi | never used it myself though, dont see the need for it |
07:56.59 | binder | I have a 3MB gatherer database from flower picking and mining |
07:57.13 | Aenslaed | while on the topic of gatherer and cartographer, is there a way to share between cartographer and gatherer? |
07:58.33 | nymbia | binder: wow, how is that possible? i mean.. there can only be a few thousand nodes in the whole game |
07:58.39 | binder | it's a combination of all the mining nodes, herbalism nodes and chests I've gotten with it |
07:58.49 | binder | and I don't know what format the database is in |
07:59.29 | binder | 2,973,671 |
07:59.35 | binder | 2.83MB sorry |
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08:00.11 | ZealotOnAStick | When I converted my old gatherer data to cartographer, the carto files were under 1/4 the size. |
08:00.53 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: I don't doubt it |
08:01.01 | ckknight | Cartographer's storage system is very efficient |
08:01.09 | ckknight | especially for Herbs and Minerals |
08:01.30 | binder | how do you convert? |
08:01.41 | ZealotOnAStick | I used a perl script to do it. |
08:01.55 | ZealotOnAStick | probably still in the cartographer thread somewhere on the forum. |
08:02.05 | nymbia | 3 megs though.. there's gotta be some unused old data floating around in there |
08:02.26 | binder | maybe it uses the berkley db format :P |
08:03.01 | binder | remember changing stuff in sendmail? |
08:03.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Stores the data with token ring keys. |
08:03.16 | binder | I miss sendmail, anyone else feel the way I do? |
08:03.28 | ckknight | postfix ftw? |
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08:03.31 | binder | had the greatest config ever |
08:03.33 | binder | lol yea |
08:03.59 | binder | the reason I switched to postfix was cyrus imap+ldap |
08:04.13 | ckknight | Mikord's parsing system is very nice, all in all |
08:04.17 | ckknight | it could be optimized |
08:04.22 | ckknight | but it's a good structure. |
08:04.40 | binder | cartographer should run a lightweight postgres |
08:04.46 | ckknight | :-P |
08:05.25 | binder | with lootlink and auctioneer |
08:05.40 | binder | I give 350MB to addons |
08:07.12 | ckknight | honestly, it would be awesome if we were given something like SQLite to store data with |
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08:12.54 | binder | flatfile databasing ftw |
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08:14.34 | mitch0 | 'lo |
08:14.45 | binder | fidgewidget's autocrafter or whatever |
08:14.49 | binder | needs an update |
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08:16.15 | neenee | why not use Stitch? |
08:16.32 | neenee | er, StitchUI that is |
08:16.41 | neenee | hi mitch0 |
08:16.43 | binder | not sure |
08:16.53 | binder | I'm just discovering the wide world of ace slowly |
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08:16.57 | neenee | oki |
08:16.58 | binder | had used autobar forever |
08:17.04 | neenee | StitchUI is very similar |
08:17.09 | neenee | autobar has an Ace version too |
08:17.17 | binder | I'm using that |
08:17.21 | binder | it's the only updated one |
08:17.24 | neenee | oki |
08:17.26 | neenee | :) |
08:18.03 | binder | before the last change, i was using nurfedui with RDX, bigwigs and vendetta |
08:18.32 | neenee | ah :) |
08:18.37 | neenee | I used nurfed a long time ag |
08:18.38 | neenee | *ago |
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08:20.32 | binder | I miss the old nurfed bars |
08:20.38 | binder | I'm back to using blizzard bars |
08:20.47 | neenee | consider bartender3 |
08:20.55 | binder | well |
08:20.58 | evl | i use the defaults :) |
08:20.59 | binder | with the old nurfed bars |
08:21.09 | binder | it used the same bindings |
08:21.23 | binder | as blizzard ui, so if I went somewhere that didn't have nurfed I could still play |
08:21.37 | neenee | Ah I see |
08:21.43 | neenee | You could bring your interface with you? |
08:22.05 | binder | if I hop on a friend's comp |
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08:27.48 | yacoob | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=1310 teh drama! |
08:32.20 | neenee | Well, I agree with the bit where the author should just be clear to the users. |
08:34.03 | CIA-17 | 03fatherjim * r27609 10loudmouth/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
08:34.03 | CIA-17 | loudmouth: |
08:34.03 | CIA-17 | - Latest beta code for testers. |
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08:42.55 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r27610 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
08:42.55 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
08:42.55 | CIA-17 | - Add Underspore Pod (28112) |
08:43.07 | chuckg | I wonder if my macros are still around for DAB. |
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08:45.10 | chuckg | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=DAB&msgnum=351 |
08:45.12 | chuckg | Woo my thread lives. |
08:45.15 | chuckg | 24k views almost! |
08:46.35 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27611 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-enUS.lua Manufac.lua): |
08:46.35 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
08:46.36 | CIA-17 | - Instead of 'Cast' lines on items for professions that arent open, make a line to open that profession. WTB a better tradeskilling API so this isn't necessary. |
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08:53.34 | mitch0_ | 'lo again |
08:54.01 | [Ammo] | morning |
08:56.25 | [Ammo] | hmm would it help if [Ruby Slippers] http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28585 was added to PT3 as hearthstone option :) |
08:56.30 | [Ammo] | it's instantcast hearthstone :) |
09:00.44 | neenee | Are you sure it's instant-cast? |
09:01.02 | neenee | The comments mention 'The cast time is 10 seconds' |
09:01.15 | neenee | Oh, but others mention it is instant |
09:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | 10s cast |
09:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=8690 |
09:03.17 | NightHawkTheSane | at least according to thott |
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09:07.07 | [Ammo] | I am sure it's instnat |
09:07.10 | [Ammo] | I got it last night |
09:07.15 | [Ammo] | click -> poof |
09:07.35 | [Ammo] | shares cooldown with hearthstone |
09:08.56 | Aenslaed | it is instant |
09:09.35 | [Ammo] | I had hoped I could set it to a different town from my hearthstone |
09:09.37 | [Ammo] | but no.... |
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09:09.51 | evl | Is there a way/addon to automatically turn on find minerals when I revive? |
09:10.33 | NightHawkTheSane | not without a hardware event. which means you're really no better off than just putting find minerals on an action button |
09:11.05 | evl | problem is I keep forgetting it |
09:11.30 | evl | i was thinking since I'm OOC, can't I rebind my move-forward key to find minerals and rebind it after it's activated? |
09:11.36 | NightHawkTheSane | nope |
09:11.48 | NightHawkTheSane | they nerfed that a number of patches ago |
09:12.28 | evl | okay, no other way around than a physical interaction |
09:12.51 | NightHawkTheSane | there might be addons that plaster a big sign/window/button/whatever on your screen if you dont have a tracking up |
09:14.10 | Beo`Gi`Oh | Is there a vendor that sells potions? |
09:14.24 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: http://files.wowace.net/FinderReminder/FinderReminder-r26541.zip might be what you want |
09:16.34 | evl | nice thanks :) |
09:17.19 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27612 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
09:17.19 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
09:17.19 | CIA-17 | - Various "click to cache data" style lines in the dewdrop -- these should only come up when the player's WDB cache has just been reset. |
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09:19.28 | abbat_w | Morning guys |
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09:19.47 | abbat_w | Anyone uses cyCircled and Onyx: Glossy square skin? |
09:20.06 | abbat_w | I have problem with equipped items with this skin |
09:20.33 | abbat_w | Won't show equipped items as bt3 do it w/o skin mod |
09:24.21 | neenee | Hm. You have your equipped items on a bar? |
09:28.08 | Gastro | [2007/02/09 10:26:42-178-x1]: Mendeleev-1.0\Mendeleev.lua:101: attempt to index global 'PeriodicTableEmbed' (a nil value) |
09:28.09 | abbat_w | Yep |
09:28.10 | Gastro | AceAddon-2.0-26427 (Ace2):455: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:432> |
09:28.11 | Gastro | <in C code>: ? |
09:28.14 | Gastro | AceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):320: in function `TriggerEvent' |
09:28.16 | neenee | abbat_w: Why? |
09:28.49 | abbat_w | neenee, i have a bar with trinkets. And just switch trinkets with bar. BT3 w/o any skins show equipped item with green border and highlight |
09:28.56 | neenee | Ah I see |
09:29.03 | abbat_w | But if i use cyCircled i can't see what is equipped ;( |
09:29.15 | neenee | I use DreamLayout and it shows the green border/highlight too |
09:29.22 | abbat_w | yep |
09:29.43 | abbat_w | But with cyCircled no more borders ;( |
09:29.49 | neenee | :| |
09:29.59 | neenee | Perhaps it's too aggressive in how it displays/applies the skin |
09:30.00 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27613 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
09:30.00 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
09:30.00 | CIA-17 | - Fixes to sub-mat menus |
09:30.04 | neenee | But I do not know how to remedy that |
09:31.15 | abbat_w | I look at src code, this mod have 'equipped' parameter with own texture. I try to change to another but something wrong and i see nothing changes ;) |
09:33.45 | neenee | :) |
09:35.21 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27614 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
09:35.21 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
09:35.21 | CIA-17 | - Fixed Mouse positioning. |
09:39.23 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27615 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Added treeLevels option, limits the number of levels the tree will have when fed from an options table. |
09:43.23 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27616 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
09:43.23 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
09:43.23 | CIA-17 | - Rearranged _OPEN event handlerts to be graceful when the player's clicking around on profession action buttons while keeping the same one's dewdrop open |
09:46.30 | binder | fishing levels the same in any zone still right? |
09:46.51 | Arrowmaster | i got 3 levels in stv the other week |
09:46.54 | Arrowmaster | so yeah i think |
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09:47.35 | nymbia | correct binder |
09:47.44 | nymbia | higher levels just require more catches |
09:48.17 | Arrowmaster | it was a pita to get to 300 in the first place |
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09:48.39 | neenee | I still need to get to 300 |
09:48.48 | neenee | But that nice +20 fishing rod from Shattrath is very nice ;) |
09:49.17 | Arrowmaster | i need to go do the fishing contest again, need to put +5 fishing on my +35 rod |
09:50.28 | nymbia | that damn line was harder to get than the pole for me |
09:50.32 | binder | ~use the one from hinterlands? |
09:51.25 | Arrowmaster | pole was perty damn hard to get for me, that was until patch 2.0.1 came around |
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09:51.37 | NightHawkTheSane | binder: alliance dont have one from the hinterlands, to be sure :P |
09:51.38 | binder | wait, a 35? |
09:51.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah from fishing contest |
09:51.48 | nymbia | course i did the contest back when it first came out so it was swarmed.. but it took 3 months or so to get a win, and another month past that to get the line |
09:52.08 | neenee | I want to get that pole too |
09:52.12 | neenee | I'll try to do the contest soonish |
09:52.15 | binder | leveling fishing used to be easier |
09:52.20 | binder | or it was on myu other toons |
09:52.28 | binder | I'd fish AV |
09:52.41 | Arrowmaster | i won the contest directly after the 2.0.1 patch, didnt run into anybody else when i was out there because everybody was pvping |
09:53.11 | nymbia | binder: i'm pretty sure the skillup rate's the same as it's always been.. although there was one short period where it was bugged to be too hard |
09:53.55 | evl | Any url to upcoming patch notes? |
09:54.01 | Arrowmaster | i got from 300 to like 303-304 in about 20-30 minutes of doing the fishing contest |
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09:54.21 | binder | I wonder what you need to fish nagrand |
09:54.36 | Arrowmaster | 380 or something i think |
09:54.42 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: wow, lucky. i havent been out there in a long, long while, but i imagine it's pretty deserted.. used to be hundreds of people... second a node spawned there'd be 4 people trying to get a fish out of it |
09:55.03 | NightHawkTheSane | binder: 380, according to cart :P |
09:55.08 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: went back the next week and it was crouded again |
09:55.22 | nymbia | binder: 380 for everywhere except sunspring lake, which requires 430 iirc |
09:55.25 | binder | how do I see that? :P |
09:55.35 | Arrowmaster | cart should show it |
09:55.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I think its part of the core, too. zone notes or wahtever? |
09:55.55 | binder | jus topen the map? |
09:55.58 | nymbia | if you have the ZoneInfo module enabled yeah |
09:56.40 | binder | i have it enabled |
09:56.51 | binder | where does it say that kind of stuff? |
09:57.03 | Arrowmaster | mouseover the zone on the continent map |
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10:04.25 | neenee | That didn't work for me some weeks ago |
10:04.57 | neenee | Does anyone know of the Shadow Altar - the place to create shadowcloth is guarded? Is it easy to get to? |
10:12.19 | neenee | okay, apparently near level 70 is preferred because of the mobs near it |
10:13.13 | nymbia | neenee: you can get there as something as low as 60, you just might die a couple times |
10:13.21 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27617 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Now supports input option of AceOption tables |
10:19.42 | neenee | nymbia: But that's the case for every place I think, apart from instances :D |
10:20.10 | nymbia | neenee: fair enough. i'd say it's worth it to get your cooldown started though |
10:22.29 | NightHawkTheSane | what's the cd on shadowcloth, 4 days? |
10:22.38 | nymbia | yeah |
10:22.54 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i guess a corpse run every 4 days isnt too bad :P |
10:24.53 | neenee | NightHawkTheSane: I can't do it yet, nor will I choose that specialization, but my girlfriend (warlock) asked about how easy it would be to get there (in one piece) :) |
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10:25.50 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r27618 10HotCandy/ (Core.lua HotCandy.toc): HotCandy: updated .toc and version number |
10:25.57 | NightHawkTheSane | neenee: ahh, well i was just commenting on how worth itd be to use the cooldown. |
10:28.33 | neenee | NightHawkTheSane: Okidoki :) |
10:28.42 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r27619 10HotCandy/ (Anchor.lua Core.lua HotCandy.toc): HotCandy: svn keywords |
10:31.45 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27620 10Manufac/Manufac/ (4 files): |
10:31.45 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
10:31.45 | CIA-17 | - Recategorized Mercurial Stone in defaults. |
10:31.45 | CIA-17 | - Added another cache check. |
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10:36.49 | mitch0_ | can I access the SVN repo via HTTPS? |
10:37.59 | Health | Ignore Kalroth! He loves cosmos |
10:38.25 | Kalroth | At least I'm not Health! |
10:40.32 | mitch0_ | seems not :( |
10:42.14 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r27621 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: some last fixes |
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10:43.43 | mitch0 | re |
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10:44.36 | Adirelle|work | hi there |
10:44.50 | mitch0 | any of the dev.wowace.com admins around? |
10:45.03 | Kaelten_ | mitch0: sup? |
10:45.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
10:45.34 | mitch0 | I'd like to reach the repo via https, 'cos I'm @work and our shitty firewall borks on WebDAV requests |
10:45.50 | Kaelten | I don't have https setup on the server :( |
10:46.01 | mitch0 | would it be hard to set up? :) |
10:46.17 | Kaelten | honestly I have no clue |
10:46.17 | mitch0 | isn't it apache? |
10:46.17 | Kaelten | I havn't ever set up one before. |
10:46.51 | nevcairiel | https in general isnt hard, but i dont know how well it would work with the svn |
10:46.52 | Kalroth | mitch0: Can't you use a SOCKS proxy or just VPN to your home computer? |
10:47.05 | nevcairiel | altho my svn setup had a sample https config for webdav :D |
10:47.06 | [Ammo] | we use https svn at work |
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10:47.46 | mitch0 | Kalroth: well, if all else fails, I could do that, but I'd probly have some problems with externals and such. |
10:48.17 | Kaelten | I know that you can do https svn I just don't know how to set it up |
10:48.27 | mitch0 | I'll try some tunneling... |
10:48.27 | Kalroth | http://www.webdav.org/other/proxy.html :) |
10:48.29 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: SSH tunnel + Putty with "dynamic forwarding" (aka SOCSK4 proxying through SSH) |
10:48.39 | Kalroth | Yup |
10:48.49 | Kalroth | Putty + Squid at home should do the trick, it seems |
10:50.36 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r27622 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (TradeskillInfoUI.lua TradeskillInfoUI.toc): |
10:50.36 | CIA-17 | TradeskillInfoUI : |
10:50.36 | CIA-17 | - More error checks. |
10:50.36 | CIA-17 | - Updated toc with official wowace thread |
10:51.37 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r27623 10TradeskillInfo/ (TradeskillData.lua TradeskillInfo.toc): |
10:51.38 | CIA-17 | TradeskillInfo : |
10:51.38 | CIA-17 | - Fixed some recipes. |
10:51.38 | CIA-17 | - Added a missing component |
10:51.38 | CIA-17 | - Updated toc with wowace forum thread |
10:52.40 | nevcairiel | clad|sleep: there you go, i uploaded it to WoWI |
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10:53.38 | abbat_w | Guys, anyone have expirience with cyCircled? I have a problem with Onyx skin, 'equipped' won't work properly. Maybe someone have solution for this? |
10:54.16 | mitch0 | hrmp, fist tunnel attempt failed :( |
10:54.18 | mitch0 | svn: PROPFIND of '/sandbox/trunk/SpellCaster': 403 Forbidden (http://localhost:9080) |
10:55.42 | neenee | :| |
10:57.10 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27624 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Now supports confirm option of AceOption tables |
10:57.11 | Adirelle|work | is there no way to define a socks4 proxy for svn ? |
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10:58.01 | Adirelle|work | 'cause the svn maybe an virtual host, and if you use "localhost" as host part, the SVN server may deny access |
10:58.33 | abbat_w | wtb sairen |
11:02.24 | mitch0 | tryiing other sort of tunneling... |
11:02.41 | mitch0 | TADA! |
11:02.49 | mitch0 | it's in sandbox, phew |
11:05.48 | CIA-17 | 03mitchell * r27625 10SpellCaster/ (9 files): |
11:05.48 | CIA-17 | SpellCaster |
11:05.48 | CIA-17 | - Initial commit [DRYCODED] |
11:06.08 | mitch0 | there. take a look if you're bored :) |
11:06.27 | Hjalte | mitch0: What does it do? :) |
11:06.53 | mitch0 | see README :) |
11:07.13 | mitch0 | most useful functionality at the moment is RangeCheck, but it works for mages only atm |
11:07.21 | mitch0 | at least it's limited for other classes |
11:07.49 | mitch0 | SpellCaster is just a leftover name from my original addon that did a lot of nice stuff that all broke in 2.0 :) |
11:08.05 | sbi | O_O |
11:08.16 | mitch0 | but it has nice OO stuff inside ;) |
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11:09.31 | mitch0 | re |
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11:12.14 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
11:12.14 | CIA-17 | - Fix some grouping oddnesses when viewing the same profession on two different characters |
11:14.16 | CIA-17 | 03teshnor * r27627 10FuBar_WindFuryFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
11:14.16 | CIA-17 | FuBar_WindFuryFu: |
11:14.16 | CIA-17 | - A couple of bufixes for localization issues |
11:17.09 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r27628 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
11:17.09 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
11:17.09 | CIA-17 | - Babble-Boss-2.2 : Update locals koKR |
11:20.48 | sbi | i farted :| |
11:22.13 | neenee | I'm glad I'm not near you then |
11:22.59 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27629 10Necronomicon2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Necronomicon2: drycoded fixes for soulshard destroying, summon and soulstone module |
11:24.58 | sbi | neenee, i wish i was far too :| |
11:25.12 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27630 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
11:25.12 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
11:25.12 | CIA-17 | - Fix finding profession name of the open menu if the tradeskill has been closed |
11:25.41 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley 07alpha * r27631 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Added width setting to AddControl for all control types except label and heading |
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11:29.48 | mitch0 | na menjunk |
11:29.56 | mitch0 | woops :) wrong window |
11:32.12 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27632 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Mount.lua: Necronomicon2: add flying mount itemid list for later use |
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11:35.11 | neenee | Can anyone confirm that fishing skill can be increased in any area and that the amount of catches needed to level up only depends on the current skill level and not on the area you are in? |
11:35.36 | abbat_w | i can confirm |
11:35.43 | neenee | huzzah |
11:35.53 | neenee | Then I can just fish outside Exodar for instance to 300 :) |
11:36.08 | neenee | No need to go to a high-level place with lots of Horde |
11:36.12 | abbat_w | you can fishing in OG before BG hall and got 300 skill |
11:36.36 | nymbia | skill up in wailing caverns imo |
11:36.36 | abbat_w | don't try 300 -> 375 |
11:36.46 | neenee | oki |
11:36.57 | nymbia | deviate fish = win |
11:37.15 | abbat_w | Yeah, you can fish in WC for deviate |
11:37.31 | abbat_w | Or you can fish in Nagrand (nice looking area) ;) |
11:37.52 | abbat_w | But i think you need to skill up cooking with fishing |
11:38.03 | abbat_w | And you need to change fishing locations then |
11:38.14 | nymbia | man.. cookings so easy compared to fishing |
11:38.35 | nymbia | i'm 313 fishing and from just those 13 points |
11:38.35 | neenee | :) |
11:38.41 | nymbia | my cooking is 365 |
11:39.19 | nymbia | course i'll need crawdads to get to 375 but i'll be making a ton of them anyway |
11:39.23 | abbat_w | skill up fishing is a pain ;) |
11:39.30 | nymbia | very much so |
11:39.48 | abbat_w | btw you can fish motes of water in Zangarmarsh |
11:40.13 | nymbia | zangarmarsh? i thought it was just nagrand |
11:41.51 | nevcairiel | zanga and nagrand |
11:42.41 | abbat_w | Heh |
11:43.17 | abbat_w | Blizzard add talbuk recipe into game. In nagrand you got a 2 quests to kill talbuks. Nice quests to skill up skinning/cooking now ;) |
11:44.49 | sbi | nagrand > |
11:44.49 | sbi | best zone :) |
11:45.28 | sbi | there's even a grat chain quest givin you a 50+dam&heal +spellhit +spellcrit head :) |
11:45.58 | abbat_w | Hmm... |
11:46.04 | abbat_w | Don't see this quest |
11:46.22 | sbi | abbat_w, you need to clear all quests in nagrand first |
11:46.24 | Gngsk | Buying Time |
11:46.34 | abbat_w | i have t2.5 head w/ ZG enchant and won't change it ;) |
11:46.36 | sbi | than you hava to speak to the grandmother and you are sent to thrall :) |
11:46.49 | Azurewrath | abbat_w: the Quest Helm is better. |
11:46.54 | abbat_w | Oh... |
11:47.05 | abbat_w | Which name on this head? Someone remember? |
11:47.20 | sbi | abbat_w, i'll link you, wait a mom |
11:47.26 | Azurewrath | Mag'hari Ritualist's Horns |
11:47.39 | abbat_w | heh |
11:47.47 | Azurewrath | wearing it with the Sha'tar Revered Enchant on my Mage atm. |
11:47.48 | sbi | abbat_w, http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59177 |
11:47.51 | abbat_w | Sounds like head from Nef ;) |
11:47.52 | Azurewrath | dumped T2,5 for it |
11:47.59 | sbi | Azurewrath, same here :) |
11:48.10 | abbat_w | oh |
11:48.16 | abbat_w | much better then t2.5 |
11:48.28 | sbi | abbat_w, y, great blue :) |
11:48.42 | sbi | abbat_w, it has a nice look too :) |
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11:49.18 | abbat_w | damn... i spend much time for got my t2.5 from twins ;) |
11:49.28 | abbat_w | And now quest reward is better |
11:51.24 | Azurewrath | Think about that you were able to fight the Twins and how it felt when you did the first kill with your Guild.. and C'thun after that.. who cares about items |
11:51.40 | sbi | :D |
11:52.22 | abbat_w | ;) |
11:52.23 | abbat_w | yep |
11:52.28 | abbat_w | loot is nothing |
11:53.11 | sbi | well, i'll have your purplez then :P |
11:54.07 | abbat_w | I think i do all this quests today and got it ;) |
11:54.19 | Azurewrath | ah well.. i wouldn't say nothing... it's just that i don't care if i have to replace them |
11:54.21 | Kalroth | First C'Thun kill was pretty nice :) |
11:54.23 | sbi | abbat_w, you need a group for few steps btw |
11:54.28 | abbat_w | it's ok |
11:54.36 | Kalroth | Patchwerk and Thaddius too :) |
11:54.49 | abbat_w | We don't kill C'Thun. Stop aq40 at Twins and TBC was released |
11:54.55 | sbi | lord serpentis too! oh wait.. no.. |
11:55.08 | abbat_w | Naxx just spider wing + Instructor |
11:55.15 | Kalroth | sbi: WC ftw! |
11:55.43 | sbi | instructor was a bit frustrating to me :| |
11:56.07 | Kalroth | Seriously? |
11:56.35 | sbi | Kaelten, y, i was in a strange guild and... it was something like "wipe til we get some priest get how it works" |
11:56.41 | sbi | not funny :| |
11:57.06 | Kalroth | oi, I'm not Kaelten, I'm more elite than him! |
11:57.12 | sbi | sorry :| |
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11:57.26 | sbi | Kalroth, lol |
11:57.32 | Kalroth | :P |
11:57.43 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, they both begin with Ka, autocomplete ftw :P |
11:57.48 | Kalroth | And yes, we had a few wipes before our priests got a clue ;) |
11:59.42 | abbat_w | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31104 |
11:59.42 | abbat_w | Heh ;) |
11:59.42 | abbat_w | Looks like Horns but design is t2 ;) |
12:00.27 | vhaarr | It's a quest reward from Shadowmoon Valley. |
12:00.35 | abbat_w | Yeah |
12:00.40 | abbat_w | But Horns better ;) |
12:00.51 | sbi | abbat_w, seems so |
12:01.02 | sbi | red slots > blue ones |
12:01.04 | sbi | :| |
12:01.38 | nymbia | purple gems ftw ;p |
12:01.48 | abbat_w | But i think i must get this too. Can you gather nether vortexes with this head? |
12:01.57 | Kalroth | Nope? |
12:02.06 | vhaarr | No. |
12:02.37 | Kalroth | They're an uncommon drop in 25 man raids |
12:02.39 | vhaarr | It's not invisibility detection. |
12:02.49 | vhaarr | Kalroth: You can farm them in SV. |
12:03.02 | Kalroth | Nether Vortex? :p |
12:03.12 | abbat_w | Only in Shadowmoon, not? |
12:03.22 | vhaarr | err |
12:03.24 | Kalroth | Since when do they drop in Steamvault, heroic or not :) |
12:03.24 | vhaarr | I mean those vents. |
12:03.35 | abbat_w | And if you have engeneer head which allow you to see vortexes |
12:03.47 | vhaarr | Or you're a warlock with detect invis. |
12:04.04 | Kalroth | You mean the air stuff, yes? |
12:04.07 | vhaarr | yeah |
12:04.11 | Kalroth | Nether Vortex = http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30183 :) |
12:04.14 | abbat_w | I never see one of them ;) |
12:04.16 | sbi | still i didn't get how this engineering thing works |
12:04.16 | vhaarr | aha |
12:04.17 | Kalroth | You mean the gas clouds |
12:04.22 | vhaarr | y |
12:04.39 | Kalroth | or nether cloud, poison cloud, etc. |
12:04.54 | nymbia | those are just motes arent they |
12:04.56 | evl | BS is bullshit :D |
12:04.57 | evl | fittingly |
12:05.02 | Kalroth | yup nymbia |
12:05.16 | abbat_w | wait i show you something ;) |
12:05.20 | evl | for rogues the only item is Dirge, which is a pissy one hander that requires 8 Primal Nether. |
12:05.36 | nymbia | primal nether are easy |
12:06.14 | nymbia | we've been doing heroics with like 2 alchemists, 2 engis, and a smith |
12:06.16 | Kalroth | primal nether is a friggin pain, only way to get them is farming heroic instances or getting _really_ lucky in normal instances |
12:06.19 | abbat_w | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30318 |
12:06.21 | abbat_w | this head |
12:06.25 | nymbia | so the smith is loaded with nethers |
12:06.36 | abbat_w | ah, arcane vortexes |
12:06.39 | abbat_w | Not nether |
12:06.42 | vhaarr | :P |
12:07.01 | abbat_w | Equip: Allows detection of objects that are slightly out of phase such as the arcane vortexes of netherstorm. |
12:07.01 | abbat_w | Use: Allows you to look far into the distance. |
12:07.06 | nymbia | that's to see more mote clouds |
12:07.21 | abbat_w | nymbia, do you try this head? |
12:07.32 | nymbia | abbat_w: read the comments |
12:07.36 | Kalroth | Arcane Clouds just gives you mana, apparently :) |
12:07.54 | sylvanaar | good morning |
12:07.59 | neenee | morning |
12:08.06 | Kalroth | aha |
12:08.12 | Kalroth | And motes of mana :P |
12:08.18 | abbat_w | Kalroth, you can extract motes rom cloud |
12:08.28 | Kalroth | Easier to farm them then |
12:08.42 | Kalroth | also |
12:08.43 | Kalroth | "The goggles only provides the "tracking" of the motes on your minimap... you can see the motes without the goggles just fine." |
12:09.42 | Kalroth | oh, that was bs too >< |
12:11.52 | Kalroth | http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2194651.html *ick* |
12:12.43 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27633 10BugSack/BugSack.xml: BugSack: Forgot to uncomment this at the last commit. |
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12:21.41 | evl | Players with multiple chat windows will no longer have fixed channels (ie. general, trade) added back to the main chat window every time they log on. |
12:21.46 | evl | hallefuckinluja |
12:24.36 | evl | Any mod that can display the number of charges left on a temp weapon buff like instant etc? |
12:26.35 | abbat_w | tbc items all 100+ lvl? |
12:27.17 | nymbia | abbat_w: everything you'll see at level 70 is |
12:27.19 | Azurewrath | the epics yes.. at least from Karazhan |
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12:27.40 | Azurewrath | the blueish lvl 70 drops are around ~110-115 |
12:28.20 | nymbia | my 3 KZ epics so far are ilvl 95, 100, and 105, all my blues are 115ish |
12:29.30 | Azurewrath | the ilvls are fucked anyway in some way.. every single epic ring i've seen so far is worse than my Ring of the Fallen God.. and that one is 'only' 88 |
12:29.33 | Athou | is there a way to set the focus frame on my target using a script (not a macro)? |
12:30.30 | nymbia | Athou: no, intentionally. addons cannot change target or focus automatically. |
12:30.49 | Athou | :( |
12:32.29 | nevcairiel | the itemlevel is kinda weird. is there any system behind it which i dont see? |
12:32.40 | nevcairiel | blues higher then epix .. dunno :) |
12:32.52 | nymbia | nevcairiel: yeah, there's a formula |
12:33.06 | RLD_osx | some greens are better than epic |
12:33.32 | nymbia | greens are higher still, they're in the 120s |
12:35.17 | kenlyric | not "better"... higher level. |
12:35.32 | nymbia | yup |
12:35.37 | kenlyric | epics get significantly more itemization points than greens of the same level. |
12:36.50 | RLD_osx | itemization points? would you enlighten someone who is not quite there yet? |
12:37.12 | CIA-17 | 03pneumatus * r27634 10ClassLoot/ (ClassLoot.lua ClassLoot.toc): |
12:37.12 | CIA-17 | ClassLoot: |
12:37.12 | CIA-17 | - Code tidy |
12:37.19 | kenlyric | item level, rarity level, and equip location are the primary factors in how stat points are distributed. |
12:37.45 | kenlyric | RLD_osx: I don't know if that's the proper term, but every stat an item has comes from a limited pool of "points" each item has. |
12:38.14 | kenlyric | and not all stats are created equal... +healing is cheaper than +damage/healing, stamina is cheaper than int, etc. |
12:38.48 | RLD_osx | hmmmm |
12:39.13 | nevcairiel | are those forumals somewhere documented? like reverse engineered and on wowwiki ? :D |
12:39.20 | Kalroth | Yup |
12:39.57 | kenlyric | I'm sure they must be. that's where I learned to translate +healing and spirit and mana/5s to realize you really get the shaft when you get mana/5s :) |
12:40.05 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Item_Values |
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12:41.14 | kenlyric | meh, I seriously can't find this lower city quartermaster. Everyone is telling me he's by the inn. |
12:41.24 | RLD_osx | I've noticed that some of the jewelry made by low lvl players is almost better than some of the mid lvl greens. and will disenchant to higher lvl mats about 25% more than those same greens. |
12:41.24 | Kalroth | He isn't |
12:41.44 | Kalroth | kenlyric: He's in the south end, near the Scryer quarter |
12:42.09 | Kalroth | If you know where the rotten egg quest guy is, then he's right there |
12:42.33 | kenlyric | wow, they just hid him right away didn"t they :) |
12:42.53 | kenlyric | awesome, I can buy... shadow protection... |
12:43.05 | nymbia | lol |
12:43.09 | Kalroth | Grats! |
12:43.42 | Kalroth | he actually got some nice items; http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21655 |
12:43.46 | Health | Don't try to be cool Kalroth! |
12:43.58 | kenlyric | at honored he's got nothin. |
12:44.00 | Kalroth | I already said that I'm too elite though |
12:44.30 | kenlyric | oooh, revered! |
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13:02.07 | sbi | i allready did exalted! |
13:02.11 | sbi | :E |
13:02.31 | kenlyric | it's goping to be mind-numbing enough to grind to revereed. |
13:02.49 | sbi | uhm not that much :E |
13:03.23 | sbi | cenarion expedition is even easier btw |
13:03.34 | kenlyric | I don't see any more quests. So either it's an RRQ I haven't found yet, or it's running instances over and over and over. |
13:03.44 | kenlyric | yeah, I'm only 2000 from revered in CE without trying. |
13:04.28 | sbi | kenlyric, scryers quest's in shadowm/netherstorm than signets |
13:04.30 | Kalroth | CE was the first faction I hit revered with |
13:04.44 | kenlyric | sbi: what would that have to do with lower city? |
13:04.49 | Kalroth | there's a ton of quests out there, it's easy to hit revered with quests + 2-3 coilfang runs |
13:04.56 | sbi | lc? oh |
13:05.12 | vhaarr | I'm revered/exalted with every new faction except Ashtongue Deathsworn and The Consortium, and I'm not even human. |
13:05.23 | sbi | vhaarr, :D |
13:05.32 | kenlyric | and with scryer/aldor, that's a mind numbing RRQ grind. |
13:05.32 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: neutral with netherwing as well? |
13:05.34 | Tupsi | Why are you still talking in here Kalroth? Fix the progression chart you slacker! |
13:05.41 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: obviously |
13:05.41 | Kalroth | vhaarr: Stop living in instances |
13:05.44 | Kalroth | Tupsi: Eeep. |
13:05.49 | Tupsi | hehe |
13:05.54 | [Ammo] | living in instances is cool |
13:05.54 | sbi | vhaarr, how do you get the quest from the ashtongue leader in shadowmoon ( the one which is in the hidden cage ) ? |
13:05.59 | vhaarr | It just goes to show how fast you get rep if you try. |
13:06.01 | Tupsi | <-- Vaxxus btw |
13:06.09 | Kalroth | Ah :p |
13:06.11 | kenlyric | I'm not even thinking much about reputation yet. Just trying to get my kharazan key. |
13:06.23 | Tupsi | so you can group my teasing to the usual crap now |
13:06.32 | kenlyric | vhaar... yes, but grinding the same thing over and over is horribly boring :) |
13:06.35 | vhaarr | sbi: You must do some prequests, I don't remember, but you must talk to that guy outside and kill some demon. |
13:06.39 | kenlyric | I'd much rather have quests to do to get me rep. |
13:06.46 | Punkie` | ammo, code me an ingame gnome tamagotchi dammit! |
13:07.09 | sbi | vhaarr, yay ,i have a quest saying i have to speak to him, but he's not talking :| maybe i have to hit friendly first? |
13:07.09 | Kalroth | I'm actually only here to stalk the author of ag_UnitFames or sRaidFrames or FuBar :p |
13:07.18 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: sod off |
13:07.31 | vhaarr | sbi: I don't think so. |
13:07.37 | sbi | vhaarr, :( |
13:07.44 | sbi | vhaarr, he hates me then! |
13:07.45 | Health | Kalroth: The hawaiian dude is asleep! |
13:08.01 | Kalroth | Hawaiians sleep too? |
13:08.03 | Tupsi | kal: what for? |
13:08.18 | Health | Kalroth needs to get laid, that's why. |
13:08.21 | Tupsi | hmm and sframes never tried that so far |
13:08.32 | Tupsi | health: he always does, what else is realy NEW? |
13:08.36 | vhaarr | Kalroth: Why would you stalk them? |
13:08.41 | Kalroth | vhaarr: I'm a stalker. |
13:09.05 | Health | Smart. |
13:09.08 | Tupsi | vharr: nah, in fact he is a slacker who needs to update our progression chart! |
13:09.16 | Kalroth | Well that and because I got a weird FuBar error in ag_UnitFrames when I try to right click the sRaidFrames minimap button. :) |
13:09.30 | Kalroth | (And no, I don't have FuBar installed :) |
13:09.35 | vhaarr | Kalroth: Perhaps you could just tell me, then. |
13:10.05 | Kalroth | Well that's the problem, I'm stuck at work atm, I don't have the exact error message, but uhmmm, |
13:10.12 | kenlyric | progression chart? what are you progressing through? |
13:10.17 | Kalroth | it's line 958 in FuBar plugin in ag_UnitFrames! |
13:10.20 | vhaarr | Kalroth: Then noone can help you. |
13:10.38 | Kalroth | vhaarr: Hence I'm stalking. |
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13:11.15 | vhaarr | Line 958 is a blank newline, there's no text in it. |
13:11.15 | Tupsi | why would you have use for a fubar plugin from ag when not using it at all? |
13:11.30 | nevcairiel | maybe thats whats wrong with it :D |
13:11.36 | Tupsi | owned! |
13:11.42 | Kalroth | vhaarr: You're in the wrong file then :p |
13:11.51 | vhaarr | Kalroth: No, you're giving me crappy details. |
13:11.51 | nevcairiel | you can use the fubar plugin as a minimap icon |
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13:11.56 | Tupsi | the newfile turned evil in itself |
13:12.05 | Kalroth | vhaarr: But you're asking for the wrong things! |
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13:12.11 | Health | This is getting rough. |
13:12.16 | vhaarr | ^^ |
13:12.21 | sbi | calm down guys ^^ |
13:12.21 | nevcairiel | he shouldnt have to ask :D |
13:12.29 | Tupsi | health: you like it rough |
13:12.29 | kenlyric | for some reason the old fubar plugin is still in the SVN, even though a fubar plugin is build in now. |
13:12.33 | Kalroth | it's the fubar plugin in ag_unitgames - \libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua |
13:12.37 | Health | I sure do. |
13:12.45 | Kalroth | line 958 begins with Dewdrop:Register(self:GetFrame(), |
13:12.48 | Tupsi | health: but you are right, these guys here most likely dont know our sense of humour yet |
13:12.54 | Stephmw | wheeee, my raid array bits have arrived |
13:12.58 | Stephmw | whatch everyone at work go "WTF are you gonna do with that?" |
13:13.27 | vhaarr | Kalroth: And what version of agUF is this? |
13:13.29 | Kalroth | vhaarr: In that Dewdrop:Register() method I get an error that says something like "name can't be nil" |
13:13.32 | Kalroth | Latest |
13:13.38 | Kalroth | I updated it uhmmm, ~9 hours ago |
13:13.41 | neenee | I use that ag_UF too |
13:13.49 | neenee | no problems though, but I do use Fubar |
13:13.50 | nevcairiel | probably not a bug in agUF |
13:13.55 | Health | He's from denmark, take it easy. |
13:13.56 | nevcairiel | just some addon causing an error |
13:13.59 | Kalroth | Do you use sRaidFrames and not FuBar? :) |
13:14.01 | nevcairiel | and that instance is the current one |
13:14.34 | Kalroth | Well if I comment that code out, nevcairiel, then it breaks sRaidFrames :) |
13:14.46 | Kalroth | so ag_UnitFrames isn't entirely innocent ;) |
13:15.20 | nevcairiel | it has nothing todo with agUF |
13:15.27 | nevcairiel | only agUF is the first addon being loaded |
13:15.36 | nevcairiel | and its copy of Dewdrop stays in the memory |
13:15.41 | CIA-17 | 03mitchell * r27636 10SpellCaster/: |
13:15.41 | CIA-17 | SpellCaster |
13:15.41 | CIA-17 | - updated svn:ignore |
13:15.41 | vhaarr | Kalroth: You're on crack, there's no such code in agUF. |
13:15.49 | Kalroth | vhaarr: uhm, I just downloaded it |
13:15.57 | vhaarr | Kalroth: From where? |
13:15.59 | Kalroth | http://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.zip |
13:16.28 | Kalroth | \libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua |
13:16.31 | vhaarr | heh |
13:16.34 | vhaarr | That's NOT agUF. |
13:16.36 | [Ammo] | Kalroth: it is some other addon you have that uses fubarplugin |
13:16.48 | [Ammo] | Kalroth: blaming agUF is silly |
13:16.53 | Kalroth | I know that, but the ingame error comes from ag_UF :) |
13:16.58 | vhaarr | ... |
13:17.03 | abbat_w | ;) |
13:17.06 | kenlyric | ag should rename it to ZG_unitframes |
13:17.16 | Kalroth | That it's actually ACE that fucks up is kinda hard to see just from that :p |
13:17.25 | kenlyric | let some other mod author take all the abuse |
13:17.28 | *** kick/#wowace [Kalroth!n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no] by vhaarr (It's "Ace".) |
13:17.28 | Health | Mmm. Capital ACE. |
13:17.32 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@195.215.170.222) |
13:17.33 | kenlyric | omg, he said the evil words! |
13:17.40 | kenlyric | call it "tickles" |
13:17.41 | Kalroth | That it's actually Ace. that fucks up is kinda hard to see just from that :p |
13:17.43 | Kalroth | There? :) |
13:17.53 | kenlyric | ACE ACE ACE ACE tickles! |
13:17.56 | [Ammo] | it's not even Ace that is doing it |
13:18.04 | neenee | Hm. |
13:18.05 | [Ammo] | it's one of your addons using the dewdrop library wrong |
13:18.16 | [Ammo] | blame the author of that addon |
13:18.20 | neenee | To me you're just arguing where the blame lies, which isn't too productive. |
13:18.33 | [Ammo] | the blame lies with one of his addons |
13:18.35 | [Ammo] | not with the library |
13:18.36 | Punkie | btw, what's so good about 'Dongle' :S |
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13:18.44 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: Yes. The error message says the error originates from ag_UF. Now tell me what addon I should blame? |
13:18.47 | kenlyric | because people don't every say DONGLE |
13:18.52 | vhaarr | Punkie: Why don't you try it and find out. |
13:19.00 | mitch0 | can someone check how the range is formatted in tooltips for hunter shots that have a minimum range? |
13:19.00 | Punkie | because my brain is too small :S |
13:19.09 | kenlyric | Kalroth, you could possibly learn how embedded libs work, first. |
13:19.13 | neenee | kenlyric: Because it's too long a word to likely be an acryonym |
13:19.26 | *** join/#wowace cynyr___ (n=cynyr@ppp-70-224-215-32.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net) |
13:19.41 | Kalroth | kenlyric: Yup, that's my responsibility if I want to report errors. |
13:19.57 | *** join/#wowace cynyr (n=cynyr@ppp-70-224-215-32.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net) |
13:19.59 | kenlyric | some basic understanding of how things work? Yes. |
13:20.33 | Kalroth | Lots of good advice there, I guess you can tell me which addon the error is from then? :) |
13:20.37 | cynyr | okay i have a small problem with WAU, i have about 25-30 ACE addons in my folder, and it sees 3.... |
13:20.39 | Kalroth | I thought so. |
13:20.58 | neenee | Kalroth: You should wait for a reply when asking a question. |
13:20.59 | kenlyric | does perl have something for taint? |
13:21.01 | nevcairiel | without the exact error, we cant. |
13:21.10 | Kalroth | neenee: A reply wasn't needed in this case. |
13:21.27 | Punkie | why don't you turn some mods off and try? ¬_¬ |
13:21.35 | neenee | Kalroth: Then the question was not necessary either. Get bugsack and buggrabber, paste the error into ace.pastey.net and report back |
13:21.38 | kenlyric | ~taint |
13:21.51 | purl | ACTION calls a few functions and nothing is secure any longer. |
13:21.51 | kenlyric | meh. |
13:21.51 | cynyr | or does it only look for addons without a .svn dir? |
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13:21.58 | neenee | cynyr: indeed |
13:22.01 | krka | kick cynyr, he said ACE! |
13:22.04 | Kalroth | Or I'll just learn to live with the various wowAce. errors, seems easier :) |
13:22.05 | krka | crap i said ACE too |
13:22.09 | krka | damn it i did it again! |
13:22.16 | kenlyric | tickles |
13:22.23 | neenee | reminds me of Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail |
13:22.29 | Health | krka is a funny guy1 |
13:22.35 | neenee | kenlyric: Suit yourself. |
13:22.40 | neenee | er |
13:22.45 | neenee | Kalroth: Suit yourself :) |
13:22.45 | krka | oh really neenee? how peculiar! |
13:22.49 | Health | Will you stay for beer krka? |
13:22.54 | krka | no! |
13:22.58 | Health | bah |
13:23.03 | Health | You drink too little |
13:23.08 | krka | you guys always take advantage of me when im drunk :( |
13:23.16 | Health | HEHE |
13:23.21 | kenlyric | I need more +fishing gear. |
13:23.35 | kenlyric | I wonder if the fishing tourney is any easier these days. |
13:23.41 | cynyr | neenee: ohh well see i have a linux and a windows machin, and all i did was copy the linux installed addons(installed with svn) to windows, so is there a nice(easy) way to tell WAU to see those? |
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13:24.08 | neenee | cynyr: get an svn client and update. Or remove the .svn dirs and update perhaps |
13:24.19 | cynyr | neenee: hmm |
13:24.34 | Punkie | kenlyric: you need to fish up a Mr. Pinchy :> |
13:24.48 | kenlyric | Punkie, that's why I need my fishing skill up :) |
13:24.52 | cynyr | neenee: was hoping for a box labeled "ignore svn" or something to that effect... |
13:25.05 | kenlyric | 495 isn't really going to be very good, once I get there. |
13:25.17 | cynyr | find . -type d -iname .svn | xargs rm doesn't quite work on windows... |
13:25.32 | Punkie | well, I think my base is like 267 or so atm :S I need to fish more :( |
13:25.46 | neenee | cynyr: you can do a search for .svn dirs in the parent dir, then delete |
13:25.58 | kenlyric | I just hit 330... +20 for my fishing pole, +100 for a lure. |
13:26.00 | Punkie | I need to fish for those Furious Crawdad's for cooking though, only skillup I can get atm |
13:26.22 | kenlyric | You need something like 475 skill just to fish there, 550 not to miss. |
13:26.34 | Punkie | :( |
13:26.40 | kenlyric | maybe it's 525. |
13:26.55 | cynyr | neenee: hmm well that seems to work too.. |
13:27.10 | nevcairiel | how could you possible get to 550? |
13:27.13 | Punkie | The only thing I've been able to fish is 1x mote of water with a lure and a +20 pole :p |
13:27.28 | Punkie | nevcairiel: you can get a fishing hat, gloves etc |
13:27.53 | nevcairiel | i can get to 375 + 100 + 20 .. then a hat which is 10? gloves maybe 10 as well? |
13:28.01 | kenlyric | Punkie, eh, just go to darnassus or ogrimmar and skill up there to 300. |
13:28.03 | nevcairiel | maks me like 500 .. not 550 :) |
13:28.32 | Punkie | I never really understood how fishing skillups work :S |
13:28.37 | kenlyric | it's almost like I typed one line and then didn't type the next one. |
13:28.43 | kenlyric | But oh look, I scroll back and there it is. |
13:28.46 | Punkie | if you go to higher level water, is the skillup chance increased per catch? |
13:28.50 | kenlyric | no. |
13:28.55 | kenlyric | only the fish get better. |
13:29.01 | Punkie | okay |
13:29.06 | kenlyric | you skilll up ever 5-9 catches. |
13:29.09 | Punkie | deviate fishing sounds a nice idea |
13:29.44 | kenlyric | "Fishing skill, gear and lures to reach at least an effective skill of 430, although 525 is required to stop fish getting away." |
13:29.44 | nevcairiel | skillup rate depends on your actual skill iirc |
13:30.06 | kenlyric | skillup rate is completely static. |
13:30.16 | Punkie | well, i need to get an epic flying mount first |
13:30.16 | nevcairiel | with skill 1, you skillup nearly every fish |
13:30.18 | kenlyric | your skill ONLY determins *if* you can fish in the water, and how frequently fish get away. |
13:30.30 | Punkie | 60% is helluva slow |
13:31.02 | neenee | You save time by moving in a straight line though |
13:31.06 | neenee | Well, not always |
13:31.10 | Punkie | yeah, and missing mobs |
13:31.36 | Punkie | but now I can pick the new dreamfoil :) |
13:31.54 | kenlyric | I haven't found a single flying-only herb. |
13:32.01 | Punkie | Mana-Thistle |
13:32.04 | nevcairiel | yea |
13:32.05 | kenlyric | I was told of vast riches in the sky. |
13:32.13 | Punkie | That's flying only |
13:32.15 | nevcairiel | vast riches in the sky? |
13:32.20 | nevcairiel | i mustve missed those |
13:32.22 | vhaarr | That's not true, you can get to the island in Netherstorm with the portal if you have the quest. |
13:32.29 | neenee | A mouth filled with bugs? |
13:32.32 | vhaarr | So you can get Mana-Thistle without flying mount. |
13:32.52 | Punkie | well, I haven't done quests in the Netherstorm yet |
13:33.16 | Punkie | Just flew there for the thistle :) Levelled in Shadowmoon Valley :o |
13:33.32 | kenlyric | getting a good percentage of golden darter right now. |
13:33.55 | *** join/#wowace chutwig (n=chutwig@URDAV3.rutgers.edu) |
13:33.58 | Punkie | Has anyone used Carto_Fishing and is it any good ? :) |
13:34.21 | kenlyric | I never saw the point, unless it can specifically track pools? |
13:34.29 | sbi | fishing is so boring :| |
13:34.34 | Punkie | well same, that's why I never tried it :p |
13:34.42 | kenlyric | it's great to do at work. |
13:34.56 | kenlyric | especially now that sound can come through the background |
13:35.00 | Punkie | Aren't you proxied at work? |
13:35.05 | sbi | kenlyric, i'll be impaled if someone spots me playing wow at work :p |
13:35.08 | kenlyric | no, I don't work for evil. |
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13:35.32 | Punkie | I'm behind IPCop >:( |
13:35.40 | kenlyric | unless you have like a t1 line for 500 people, there's no reason to proxy people at work. |
13:35.51 | kenlyric | unless you're evil. |
13:35.58 | Punkie | or to filter web access :) |
13:36.06 | kenlyric | Punkie: like I said, no reason. |
13:36.14 | Punkie | well |
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13:36.45 | Punkie | when you have people that work in engineering and maintenence viewing porn, you'd probably need a proxy for them to actually do work :P |
13:37.04 | sbi | Punkie, i strongly disagree =) |
13:37.06 | kenlyric | or, possibly, policies which require them to do work or get fired. |
13:37.16 | sbi | kenlyric, agreed =) |
13:37.26 | kenlyric | It shouldn't matter what I do all day, as long as I work and work well. |
13:37.44 | kenlyric | and that's why I work here, because that's what they think too. |
13:37.45 | Punkie | true, but not everyone is like that |
13:37.56 | kenlyric | "Incidental personal use" is actually written in our policies. |
13:38.09 | Punkie | same for the policy here |
13:38.27 | kenlyric | surprising you can get on irc. |
13:38.33 | sbi | kenlyric, what's your job? |
13:38.34 | Punkie | technically i can't |
13:38.50 | kenlyric | I work at a university :) |
13:38.56 | Punkie | I use VNC to get onto my home PC and browse the net freely through it :p |
13:38.57 | sbi | Punkie, yours? |
13:39.10 | Punkie | IT support admin :P |
13:39.31 | sbi | kenlyric, it related, isn't it? |
13:39.37 | sbi | i mean IT related |
13:39.50 | kenlyric | yeah, policy/security office. |
13:40.00 | kenlyric | I hunt down the wicked and bring them righteous pain. |
13:40.28 | sbi | lol :D |
13:40.39 | neenee | I work at a graveyard/memorial park, IT too. After kenlyric is done with them, they end up with me. |
13:41.02 | chutwig | and when you work in IT there's a lot of righteous pain to go around |
13:41.07 | kenlyric | odd... the autoloot window for my fish just stopped working. |
13:41.16 | kenlyric | It opens, but doesn't loot the fish. |
13:41.31 | chutwig | it's telling you "stop wasting your time fishing" |
13:41.35 | sbi | neenee, rofl |
13:41.38 | kenlyric | bah! |
13:41.40 | kenlyric | golden darter! |
13:42.02 | FISKER_Q | ~seen kaelten |
13:42.32 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 2h 54m 15s, last said: 'I know that you can do https svn I just don't know how to set it up'. |
13:42.32 | kenlyric | I think I'm just clicking too fast for autoloot to get it. |
13:42.32 | chutwig | this "delete all logical devices" option in storage manager is awfully tantalizing |
13:42.32 | Punkie | kenlyric: you use any fishing mods? |
13:42.32 | kenlyric | fishingace |
13:42.32 | neenee | sbi: We get very few customer complaints |
13:42.33 | Punkie | yeah, i got that :> |
13:42.36 | sbi | neenee, i see =) |
13:42.37 | kenlyric | makes it nice for switching windows quickly and getting the fish. |
13:42.47 | sbi | neenee, i wish i'll never be your customer btw :p |
13:42.51 | neenee | :) |
13:43.04 | sbi | neenee, btw in the case, i want flowers :D |
13:43.05 | Punkie | does anyone use Autobar btw? |
13:43.27 | Punkie | apparently flying mounts are in the category of AQ :S |
13:43.29 | kenlyric | my primary job is basically blocking people from our network when they get compromised. Doing it during dead/finals week is such a sweet, blissful joy. |
13:43.50 | neenee | sbi: hehe. You can even have a small garden if you want to :) |
13:43.53 | sbi | kenlyric, does your job involve the use of a LART? |
13:43.58 | chutwig | angry low-paid university IT high five |
13:44.04 | neenee | Punkie: I do |
13:44.14 | kenlyric | I'm middle-paid. |
13:44.27 | kenlyric | And not angry... joy. |
13:44.38 | kenlyric | those t1 support people are the angry low-paid sort. If i had to deal with users, I'd be too :) |
13:44.50 | chutwig | that's why i'm angry |
13:44.52 | kenlyric | I get to bring the pain, but don't have to take any of the shit for it. |
13:44.57 | Punkie | how do you ban them anyway? just prohibit them via DHCP? |
13:45.12 | kenlyric | dhcp mostly. |
13:45.15 | sbi | Punkie, he just uses a 2h mace |
13:45.24 | kenlyric | shears are sometimes required. |
13:45.42 | Punkie | So that must be the real use of 'The Stoppable Force' |
13:45.55 | sbi | Punkie, you got it! =) |
13:45.56 | kenlyric | I'm a priest, I can't equip that. |
13:46.11 | Punkie | Press A! |
13:46.19 | sbi | kenlyric, your inner fire got nerfed ages ago, no more slaps from you! :p |
13:46.30 | kenlyric | being a priest is very much like my job. I have a lot of control over the happiness of other people. |
13:46.39 | Punkie | You know, it's great being a rogue in TBC nowadays |
13:46.51 | Punkie | Those new magic armors give no armor |
13:47.01 | sbi | if i would reroll, i'd be a mage another time btw |
13:47.05 | Punkie | haha, shame most people fail to realise that |
13:47.19 | kenlyric | new magic armors? |
13:47.21 | sbi | btw, true, cos is a pain :) |
13:47.41 | Punkie | yeah, the new mage's armor and warlock's armor |
13:47.50 | chutwig | i love fel armor |
13:47.58 | Punkie | so do I, no armor for you |
13:47.59 | sbi | Punkie, well, i'm using frost armor for pvp ^^ |
13:48.15 | Punkie | yes, but a lot of mages/warlocks don't use it for questing :) |
13:48.22 | kenlyric | well, i've always said if you let a rogue touch you, you're dead already. |
13:48.24 | Punkie | from what I've noticed atleast |
13:48.28 | sbi | Punkie, shame on them than :;p |
13:48.47 | chutwig | who doesn't use an armor spell while questing? |
13:49.15 | Punkie | they use an armor spell, but not the one that gives them an actual armor increase |
13:49.32 | sbi | chutwig, punkie is stating most mages use molten armor/mage armor while questing |
13:49.42 | kenlyric | well, does the spell provide other benefits? |
13:49.45 | chutwig | why use ice armor instead of those? |
13:50.01 | kenlyric | My armor spell does nothing but provide armor, so I don't get a choice. |
13:50.08 | Punkie | because it gives you armor, chutwig |
13:50.13 | chutwig | er |
13:50.25 | mitch0 | and procs frostbite |
13:50.37 | sbi | chutwig, cause it procs frostbite, and slows attackers gh |
13:50.41 | Punkie | chutwig, read the spell description: http://www.thottbot.org/?sp=30482 |
13:50.41 | chutwig | an extra 500 armor or whatever versus, say, an extra 100 damage and +25% to healing effects with fel armor |
13:50.45 | sbi | and gives you a bit of armor :) |
13:50.47 | chutwig | i know what it bloody does |
13:50.49 | mitch0 | but for questing, it's crap |
13:51.03 | Punkie | 600 armore makes a difference |
13:51.07 | Punkie | -e |
13:51.13 | axxo | no it doesn't |
13:51.19 | Punkie | it clearly does |
13:51.29 | axxo | its like 0.5% less dmg from mellee |
13:51.29 | kenlyric | not as much as +100 damage on 3 dots... :) |
13:51.38 | sbi | Punkie, not that much it's about a 1% less dam |
13:51.40 | chutwig | yeah i really want 600 armor instead of +3% spell crit |
13:51.40 | axxo | and you're not supposed to be getting hit |
13:51.42 | chutwig | what a good tradeoff |
13:52.10 | Punkie | perhaps ^^ |
13:52.17 | sbi | chutwig, i do prefer slowing and frostbite while grinding |
13:52.20 | axxo | i can drainlife my health to full with 3 mobs hitting me |
13:52.23 | axxo | i really need the armor |
13:52.25 | mitch0 | sbi: huh? |
13:52.30 | axxo | mage should never get hit |
13:52.33 | Punkie | but rogues are pretty buff now, esp with their new r14 gloves :) |
13:52.47 | sbi | axxo, yeah, but i'm not playing theorycraft |
13:52.49 | mitch0 | maybe he's a melee mage |
13:53.08 | mitch0 | ;) |
13:53.08 | chutwig | between frost nova, cone of cold, and polymorph |
13:53.11 | chutwig | and blink |
13:53.15 | chutwig | a mage has a lot of ways to not get hit |
13:53.22 | axxo | sbi: sigh |
13:53.44 | sbi | axxo, well if you manage to not get hit at all aginst 5 mob |
13:53.46 | abbat_w | yep |
13:53.47 | sbi | axxo, good for you |
13:53.54 | Punkie | cya later, got work to do :) |
13:53.59 | axxo | sbi: i don't theorycraft |
13:54.16 | abbat_w | But if you have 1 talent point in arcane tree why not ;) |
13:54.34 | abbat_w | it's good place to spent it |
13:54.36 | sbi | axxo, getting hit to just preserve mana ( not blinking ) is just a cheap way to speed up grinding btw |
13:54.54 | abbat_w | Heh |
13:54.59 | mitch0 | sbi: if (for example) the crocs in ZG hit you once (that means as a group, so you let them too close) you're dead meat even if you have ice armor on instead of mage armor... if you do AOE right, you don't get hit. |
13:55.16 | axxo | sbi: yes so you get cloth gear with high armor? ;p |
13:55.21 | sbi | mitch0, that's not my idea of gringind :) |
13:55.34 | sbi | axxo, you are just exagerating |
13:55.39 | abbat_w | I don't know about you server guys, but on my server i have a problems with mobs. To many ppl kill mobs. And i always have time for regen between respawn |
13:55.44 | mitch0 | you don't get hit with blizz grinding ether |
13:55.52 | axxo | sbi: no, you're still better off killing them twice as fast then having armor |
13:55.53 | abbat_w | Don't need to conserve mana |
13:56.01 | mitch0 | AE spam is another matter, but that's the lamest way to aoe grind imo :) |
13:56.06 | axxo | sbi: or is that theorycrafting aswel? oh nos! |
13:56.16 | abbat_w | mitch0, why? |
13:56.36 | abbat_w | try to spam AE with shatter for example |
13:56.43 | mitch0 | why what? why AE spamming is bad? 'cos you get hit and die too much |
13:56.48 | mitch0 | not very mana efficient either |
13:57.07 | mitch0 | I prefer blizz or coc |
13:57.12 | abbat_w | If you want to do solo safe aoe, you need to be specced with permafrost and imp. blizzard ;) |
13:57.13 | mitch0 | (full frost, btw) |
13:57.19 | abbat_w | And no one hit you |
13:57.45 | sbi | being full frost blizz is obv better, and yeah being full frost i agree, you can use mage armor or molten |
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13:57.58 | mitch0 | I'm 0/0/55 atm :) going for 5/0/55 |
13:58.05 | sbi | mitch0, lol :D |
13:58.11 | abbat_w | 55 in frost? :) |
13:58.11 | chutwig | need more frost |
13:58.14 | mitch0 | yep |
13:58.19 | abbat_w | heh |
13:58.35 | mitch0 | it's awesome (for me at least. I like the frost playstyle) |
13:58.40 | sbi | actually i'm spellpower/ice block |
13:58.43 | mitch0 | I don't want to convince anyone, though |
13:58.46 | chutwig | spam ice lance, win every time? |
13:58.54 | abbat_w | mitch0, try elemental build |
13:58.58 | abbat_w | fire/frost |
13:59.02 | mitch0 | don't have ice lance yet... I can't wait though :) |
13:59.06 | abbat_w | it's most agressive playstyle ;) |
13:59.16 | abbat_w | Ah, you are not 70 now |
13:59.26 | mitch0 | I tried to build a tree for elemental, but I couldn't let go any of the frost talents I have :) |
13:59.56 | sbi | abbat_w, what's your build? fire til blazing speed? |
14:00.01 | mitch0 | I'm only 65 |
14:00.10 | abbat_w | wait, i'll show |
14:00.15 | sbi | thanks :) |
14:00.47 | FISKER_Q | Kaelten you there? |
14:01.12 | abbat_w | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RZVgGz0ccRxMZbAG0obxs |
14:01.13 | abbat_w | this |
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14:02.04 | sbi | abbat_w, uh! |
14:02.09 | sbi | abbat_w, a strange one :) |
14:02.10 | abbat_w | i like pvp and this is my pvp build ;) |
14:02.15 | abbat_w | why? |
14:02.30 | sbi | abbat_w, first time i've seen your spec, nothing wrong with it :) |
14:02.42 | abbat_w | ah |
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14:03.21 | abbat_w | I have some problems with this build like small manapool but now i geared into 60 lvl epics ;) |
14:03.49 | mitch0 | that alliance leveling guide ad on wowhead is so lame |
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14:04.14 | sbi | abbat_w, http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kZEgGz00zRhZVVGcobxs0o played this one for a bit |
14:04.23 | abbat_w | With shatter / frostbite i have about 70% spellcrit. So, scorch crit about 1k, lance about 1k5 |
14:04.27 | kagaro | morning |
14:04.36 | sbi | abbat_w, :D |
14:04.51 | abbat_w | If npc have 20% or lower i have some more dmg ;) |
14:05.07 | abbat_w | Now 67xx hp and about 8k manapool |
14:05.16 | sbi | abbat_w, sure, i found it more useful in pve btw |
14:05.31 | sbi | actually i'm 9k mana 650+dam |
14:05.40 | sbi | low health pool btw 6.1k |
14:05.49 | mitch0 | eh... 650+dmg... /envy |
14:05.53 | abbat_w | i have 3 pvp 60 lvl epics |
14:06.05 | abbat_w | and about 600 spelldmg |
14:06.24 | abbat_w | But you build is nice, i plan to spec into elemental build but with ice barrier |
14:06.55 | abbat_w | And blazzing speed it's a fun ability btw ;)) |
14:07.07 | sbi | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0VcMdzLIzbZZVVGcobxo <- my build |
14:07.32 | sbi | abbat_w, yes i like blazing speed :D |
14:08.16 | abbat_w | Oh, how many ice lance do dmg with you build? |
14:08.20 | abbat_w | about 3k crits? |
14:08.24 | sbi | 2200 crit |
14:08.26 | sbi | no :D |
14:08.41 | sbi | ice lance take 43% +dam /3 |
14:08.57 | sbi | you just get 43% as an instant only when the target is frozen |
14:09.20 | sbi | ap+trinket + crit = 4k frostbolt btw |
14:09.29 | abbat_w | Uh |
14:09.56 | abbat_w | so, nova, ap, frostbolt, ice lance and ~ -6k hp on you taget... |
14:09.58 | abbat_w | not bad |
14:10.04 | sbi | yeah not bas |
14:10.08 | sbi | baD |
14:10.48 | Burton | sbi> what about ur resilience rating? |
14:10.58 | sbi | Burton, really low :( |
14:11.04 | sbi | Burton, doing pve at most :| |
14:11.20 | sbi | not stacking resil at all atm |
14:11.24 | Burton | there are pve items with resil |
14:11.34 | sbi | yeah, i don't have them :) |
14:11.37 | abbat_w | Now i have 40 |
14:11.51 | abbat_w | 20 from staff and 20 from 70 lvl insignia |
14:12.14 | Burton | i have 148 |
14:12.28 | sbi | Burton, :) |
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14:12.34 | abbat_w | it's about -3.5% on crit and -7% on dmg from crit |
14:12.37 | abbat_w | not bad |
14:12.38 | SkOODaT | hey eveyone |
14:12.41 | Burton | I really hope it will be useful in arenas |
14:12.48 | abbat_w | sure |
14:12.52 | sbi | Burton, for sure |
14:12.56 | Burton | because my spell damage is really nerfed |
14:12.59 | SkOODaT | whats up with xloot monitor..... it doesnt seem to record anything for me |
14:13.04 | sbi | Burton, you should be stacking much more resil btw imho |
14:13.05 | mitch0 | your opponents will hate you for that :) |
14:13.13 | abbat_w | yeah |
14:13.26 | abbat_w | i think resilence it's very important parameter in pvp |
14:13.30 | Burton | yea sbi that's what im doing |
14:13.42 | sbi | abbat_w, i suppose so.. let's see :) |
14:14.15 | sbi | i'd be deep frost if stacking much resil btw |
14:14.24 | sbi | i mean, deep frost |
14:14.25 | abbat_w | ok, give me a week and i'll be geared with 70 lvl pvp gear and about 200 resilence or so |
14:14.28 | Burton | from patchnote 2.0.7: * Any effect which benefits the victim of a critical strike will now trigger even if resilience converted the attack from a critical strike to a normal strike; this applies to melee, ranged, and spell. The affected talents, abilities, and items are: "Eye for an Eye", "Blessed Resilience", "Enrage", "Martyrdom", "Blood Craze", "Eye of the Storm", and "Bonespike Shoulder". |
14:14.32 | SkOODaT | anyone know i have the latest 4 xloot files installed too off the svn x - loot,monitor,group and master |
14:14.53 | abbat_w | It's not good btw ;) |
14:15.16 | sbi | abbat_w, not for mages :) |
14:16.04 | Burton | im a mage :) |
14:16.19 | mitch0 | how much resilience do you need for 1% crit reduction? 20? |
14:16.22 | abbat_w | Ok, what be if you hit paladin (for example) with 4k dmg but he have resilence and convert you crit to hit. Paladins eye of eye hit you with damage from you crit or damage converted from crit to hit? |
14:16.23 | sbi | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59779 <- i want this one :p |
14:16.32 | abbat_w | mitch0, 39 at 70 lvl |
14:16.40 | mitch0 | uh. that's a lot... |
14:16.58 | abbat_w | it's be -1% crit and -2% damage from crit if you be critically hitted |
14:18.09 | chutwig | abbat_w: in 2.0.7 stuff like that that relies on a crit will still trigger even if resilience converts it to a hit |
14:19.50 | Burton | sbi> i'd prefere this one: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54830 |
14:19.56 | Burton | -e |
14:21.17 | abbat_w | oh |
14:21.26 | sbi | Burton, more pvp oriented, yeah :) |
14:21.31 | abbat_w | nice one |
14:21.46 | sbi | i got my scryer yesterday |
14:21.50 | abbat_w | Burton is a Battle Mage, not "cavern rat" :)) |
14:21.58 | sbi | eheh :) |
14:22.05 | abbat_w | sbi, you are exalted with scryers? |
14:22.10 | sbi | i like being a glasscannon even in pvp btw :) |
14:22.14 | sbi | abbat_w, yup :) |
14:22.31 | SkOODaT | has anyone seen xuerian online lol? |
14:22.51 | abbat_w | sbi, do you farm rep by self? or buy tomes/marks? |
14:23.14 | sbi | abbat_w, i did all questlines + farming, by self mostly yep |
14:23.56 | sbi | good thing about area52 questlines is you can do those with aldors :) |
14:23.59 | abbat_w | how many time you spent for this? |
14:24.05 | sbi | abbat_w, few days |
14:24.22 | sbi | abbat_w, seems farming rep now is much easier than it used to be |
14:24.26 | abbat_w | hmm... |
14:24.45 | sbi | farming exalted with frostwolf was a PAIN for example :) |
14:24.50 | abbat_w | need to try grind and questing. i sold my soul to scryers to ;) |
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14:24.59 | sbi | :D |
14:25.04 | abbat_w | I'm exalted with all bg's ;) |
14:25.05 | abbat_w | Elvina! |
14:25.51 | winkiller | is EoS a new faction? |
14:26.08 | winkiller | if yes.. I have to do that. :P |
14:26.10 | abbat_w | now no reputation with bg factions |
14:26.34 | abbat_w | all items can be purchased with marks from bg and honor |
14:26.47 | winkiller | k. then I'm still exalted with _all_ bgs :P |
14:26.50 | abbat_w | so, no frostwolf now ;) |
14:27.02 | winkiller | that was the question. I know the changes |
14:27.05 | abbat_w | winkiller, sure |
14:27.07 | winkiller | but I'm only 64 and haven |
14:27.16 | winkiller | 't been to EoS BG yet |
14:27.20 | abbat_w | but no new rewards from these factions |
14:27.54 | SkOODaT | ok.... i figured it out for all thoes who want to know |
14:27.58 | abbat_w | you can see all pvp rewards right now from pvp vendor |
14:28.27 | winkiller | I was just asking if you get rep for EoS bg |
14:28.41 | SkOODaT | basically i still make a centeral libs folder and place all my libs there .... SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 wasnt there and does not propduce and error if its not present |
14:28.43 | winkiller | i.e. if tehre's a new fation for that bg, nothing about rewards :) |
14:28.51 | SkOODaT | SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 needs a safeguard or xlott does lol |
14:28.54 | SkOODaT | xloot* |
14:28.57 | abbat_w | winkiller, no. just 1 or 3 marks ;) |
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14:29.08 | winkiller | too bad :/ |
14:29.16 | winkiller | 1 more exalted would look cool |
14:29.35 | abbat_w | ahah, yep ;) |
14:29.42 | sbi | winkiller, lol :D |
14:30.30 | abbat_w | winkiller, btw you have about 2-3 factions which have good rewards with exalted rep |
14:30.55 | winkiller | hey, I only got Darkspear,Warsong,Frostwolf,Defilers as an Orc ;) |
14:31.19 | abbat_w | You need to be revered with Sha'Tar (legs enchants), exalted with Scryers/Aldor (shoulder enchants) and one more for head |
14:31.30 | winkiller | lower city? |
14:31.37 | abbat_w | don't remember, sorry |
14:31.52 | winkiller | as I said, only 64 atm and friendly with cenarion/sporeggar |
14:32.06 | abbat_w | Possible exalted with Thrallmar, because Stormcaller looks nice (looks better then Continuum blade btw :) |
14:32.12 | winkiller | will take a while :) |
14:32.18 | sbi | :D |
14:32.24 | abbat_w | =) |
14:32.45 | abbat_w | Ah, i was wrong |
14:33.14 | abbat_w | Sha'tar give you head enchant. And legs enchant you can do with spellthread |
14:33.31 | winkiller | whatever. onlyi nteresting at 70 |
14:33.36 | sbi | i got this http://www.thottbot.com/?i=58891 from o'mrogg |
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14:34.03 | abbat_w | winkiller, yeah. and also you need epic fly mount ;) |
14:34.21 | Wobin | >< |
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14:34.23 | Wobin | Well |
14:34.23 | winkiller | anyone knows how much _exactly_ it is? |
14:34.27 | Wobin | I'm all ubunted up |
14:34.43 | winkiller | as in: riding skill, epic riding skill, normal mount, epic mount |
14:34.48 | Wobin | but I can't seem to install my nvidia drivers without falling over |
14:34.57 | Burton | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=58041 |
14:35.19 | mitch0 | abbat_w: who gives shoulder enchant? (for mage) |
14:35.31 | Burton | mitch0> scryers |
14:35.35 | abbat_w | first off you need to buy riding skill for non epic fly mount (cost 800g) and fly mount (cost 100g) |
14:35.40 | mitch0 | Burton: thanks |
14:36.58 | Burton | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54541 and http://www.thottbot.com/?i=54537 |
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14:45.45 | Ordog | wb all |
14:45.45 | sbi | winkiller, take it this way, how come no druids have a 200g 280% flying mount? :D |
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14:45.59 | Ordog | is there a healbot like functionality in grid already? (leftclick = lesser heal, rightclick = greater heal or whatever is binded) |
14:45.59 | winkiller | well, I could save 540g if it's teh case :) |
14:45.59 | winkiller | my druid only hit 60 2 days ago |
14:45.59 | mitch0 | doh |
14:45.59 | winkiller | on the other hand I could just try it. |
14:45.59 | mitch0 | Ordog: you could use clique for that |
14:45.59 | winkiller | 60->68 won't be so long that I can't fo it without rpicm ount |
14:46.03 | winkiller | as I'm saving my money for rogue epic flying anyways |
14:46.03 | sbi | winkiller, your main is a rogue? |
14:46.04 | Ordog | hmmm can i use clique with xperl unitframes? |
14:46.05 | abbat_w | Also it's depends which trade skills you have |
14:46.05 | kenlyric | winkiller, yeah, but you need it anyway, so why not just buy it now? |
14:46.05 | sbi | ah! yesterday i killed a demo warlock, why server did not crash? |
14:46.05 | abbat_w | If something like mining / skinning you can make much money while questing |
14:47.35 | winkiller | my druid has herb/mining, rogue has skinning :P |
14:47.35 | winkiller | but it sucks that you need 300 for fel iron ore :( |
14:47.36 | kenlyric | how do you work with herb/mining? |
14:47.36 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro 07v1.31 beta 2007-02-10-01-45 * r27637 10ArkInventory/ (17 files in 2 dirs): |
14:47.36 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
14:47.36 | CIA-17 | - v1.31 beta 2007-02-10-01-45 |
14:47.36 | kenlyric | when I go back to holy and stop doing so much questing, I'd like to pick up mining and drop questing. |
14:47.36 | winkiller | SWEEET! http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=123452465&sid=1 |
14:47.36 | abbat_w | everytime switch radars ;) |
14:47.36 | kenlyric | stop skinning |
14:47.36 | winkiller | kenlyric, I mostly see stuff and/or switch yes |
14:47.36 | abbat_w | Heh |
14:47.36 | abbat_w | Mining with fly mount - it's damnd nice ;) |
14:47.36 | winkiller | ok, so no flying mounbt for me, druid will get it for free :) |
14:47.37 | winkiller | woohoo |
14:47.37 | abbat_w | You just fly, got a tea or something else and look at minimap ;) |
14:47.37 | Health | olkd! |
14:47.37 | Kalroth | Get a swift flying mount and you'll be spending more time chopping veins than flying |
14:47.37 | abbat_w | And btw |
14:47.37 | abbat_w | At 68 lvl make trinket for 10% mount speed |
14:47.37 | abbat_w | Don't sure it affect druid form but works on all mounts ;) |
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14:48.13 | Burton | is there a fubar plugin which shows your speed % ? |
14:48.13 | sbi | winkiller, not so sweet, you have to pay 5000 gold first ^^ |
14:48.13 | abbat_w | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=58684 |
14:48.13 | abbat_w | this one |
14:48.47 | winkiller | sbi: 5000 compared to 5000+720+540 |
14:49.19 | winkiller | err 5000->4500 |
14:49.47 | sbi | winkiller, not a huge save though ^^ |
14:49.47 | abbat_w | I read what druids have epic fly form |
14:49.47 | winkiller | that's 1260 gold saved. +´80 for epic mount +90 for normal flying mount |
14:49.47 | winkiller | I think I can't complain |
14:49.47 | abbat_w | But anyway need to purchase epic riding skill for this |
14:50.23 | winkiller | yeah, who cares. |
14:50.23 | winkiller | I have only 500g atm |
14:50.23 | abbat_w | pff |
14:50.23 | winkiller | 2nd epic flying mount is wayyyyy out of my reach |
14:50.23 | sbi | winkiller, i have 30g lol :D |
14:50.23 | abbat_w | after you took 70 you have about 1k5 - 2k gold |
14:50.57 | sbi | got my epic though so who cares :p |
14:50.57 | abbat_w | only for questing |
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14:50.57 | abbat_w | and if you don't spent money for BoE ;) |
14:50.58 | sbi | abbat_w, true :D |
14:50.58 | winkiller | yeah, we'll see :) |
14:51.29 | sbi | seems like expansion gold = gold x 10 =) |
14:51.29 | winkiller | and I have 2 chars to get to 70, sooo 2*2250 => epic :D |
14:51.29 | abbat_w | After you took 70 all quest xp converts to money |
14:51.29 | Pneumatus | i have 4 :< |
14:51.29 | winkiller | back to learning, bye :) |
14:51.55 | abbat_w | So, for example, money rewards for quests in Shadowmoon about 10g - 15g each |
14:52.24 | chutwig | you can easily make 35-40g off some quests at 70 |
14:52.33 | chutwig | 25g for the reward and then vendor whatever the gear is you get |
14:52.36 | Gngsk | more like 1-2k |
14:52.39 | abbat_w | yep |
14:52.55 | chutwig | i have about 2350g right now after 4 days of farming or so |
14:52.58 | chutwig | i have no patience for it |
14:53.01 | chutwig | but i will persevere! |
14:53.37 | kenlyric | I just crossed 3000g with most of shadowmoon left to do. |
14:53.37 | kenlyric | and 8 days now left to do it! |
14:53.37 | abbat_w | For me, best way it's farm primal air |
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14:53.39 | sbi | ./cast Invisibility |
14:53.40 | abbat_w | I can get about 5-6 Primal Air in hour |
14:54.42 | kenlyric | the generous price of knothide leather has helped. |
14:54.42 | abbat_w | On my server primal air costs about 30g |
14:54.42 | abbat_w | stack of knothide leather about 15g |
14:54.44 | chutwig | i dropped engineering and went farmer spec for my professions |
14:54.44 | chutwig | so most of my money now is coming from selling adamantite stacks and healing potions |
14:54.47 | abbat_w | mage can easy farm leather in black morass ;) |
14:54.56 | kenlyric | yeah, but int the time I get 1 primal air I've had 3 stacks of leather and finished a quest or two :) |
14:55.09 | abbat_w | Pfff... |
14:55.37 | chutwig | i'm also saving stuff like mana thistle |
14:55.41 | sbi | chutwig, i'm thinking about dropping engineering too |
14:55.42 | abbat_w | Nagrand is a key for farm primal air |
14:55.44 | chutwig | and fel lotus |
14:55.45 | kenlyric | saving... lol |
14:55.52 | abbat_w | But you need fly mount to reach farm place |
14:55.53 | sergio | there's no reason to farm for anything if you have quests unfinished in netherstorm and shadowmoon |
14:55.59 | chutwig | what's lol about it |
14:56.01 | sergio | there's so much gold in quest |
14:56.24 | chutwig | eventually people will start learning the necessary patterns for flasks that require it |
14:56.24 | chutwig | and then its price and fel lotus's price will go way up |
14:56.26 | kenlyric | unless the market has dropped on an item (like primal shadow on my server) dump everything you have. |
14:56.26 | abbat_w | sergio, some quests requires more then one player and sometimes it's hard to find anyone else ;) |
14:56.39 | sergio | that's a lame excuse |
14:56.41 | chutwig | why? that's stupid |
14:56.42 | kenlyric | fel lotus is one thing I would keep, because the maarket would go up on it. |
14:56.55 | chutwig | there's no market for mana thistle because nobody knows how to make anything with it right now |
14:57.19 | kenlyric | ah, guess since i haven't picked any I don't know the market on it. |
14:57.22 | abbat_w | Wait for month, markets be created ;) |
14:57.27 | xyu | ArenaMaster keeps giving me the error 'ArenaMaster' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()" error. |
14:57.36 | kenlyric | I know I was at first tempted to keep supplies of everything I might need... but then figured I needed gold more. |
14:57.41 | xyu | randomly |
14:57.44 | chutwig | i sell things people need now |
14:57.47 | chutwig | mostly ore |
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14:59.03 | chutwig | and i have 55 super heal pots waiting for some AH love |
14:59.32 | sbi | chutwig, those are cheap in my server :| |
14:59.39 | sbi | chutwig, how much in yours? |
14:59.46 | chutwig | a little under 2g a pot |
15:00.11 | chutwig | i put them up at a bad time last night and got them all back this morning, but if i put them up again early afternoon today they'll sell |
15:00.29 | sbi | i'd better sell primal might trasmute ( going for 200g in my serv :| ) |
15:00.49 | chutwig | and adamantite stacks are going for 35-40g |
15:00.53 | sbi | true |
15:01.02 | chutwig | i'd better go farm for some ore before everyone else wakes up and steals it all from me |
15:01.31 | sbi | lol |
15:03.13 | sbi | chutwig, my sencod pg died in the process :| |
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15:09.40 | abbat_w | 200g for only transmute? |
15:09.47 | abbat_w | or for might? |
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15:14.00 | CIA-17 | -Sanctity aura no longer should apply incorrectly to non-holy spells. Fixed call of thunder and elemental precision. Casts left on action bar update now every difference of 200 mana. |
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15:34.40 | CIA-17 | - bugfix for offhand only weapons not handled properly |
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15:41.49 | mitch0 | erm, sorry for asking again, can you apply the spellthreads (aldor/scryer) to other ppl's equipment? |
15:42.11 | ilifin | the crafted ones or the shoulder enchants? |
15:42.29 | mitch0 | the tailoring ones |
15:42.30 | Pneumatus | mitch0: yes |
15:43.06 | mitch0 | so I don't have to go scryer if I want my pants enchanted with the +dmg thread? |
15:43.56 | Pneumatus | correct, the thread is tradeable |
15:44.18 | mitch0 | hm... then I don't know again which one to choose :) |
15:45.38 | mitch0 | although seer's signet looks nice |
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15:47.43 | mitch0 | oh well, scryers have master enchanter ;) |
15:47.52 | sbi | :D |
15:48.07 | sbi | mitch0, mage? |
15:48.39 | sbi | mitch0, enchanter/tailor? |
15:48.45 | mitch0 | yep |
15:49.14 | mitch0 | and now working on fishing as well :) |
15:49.20 | sbi | well don't feel afraid to chose :D |
15:49.29 | sbi | enchants are almost equivalent |
15:49.34 | mitch0 | wanna win the fishing contest |
15:49.36 | sbi | it's just a matter of taste |
15:49.48 | sbi | you get a fine ring with scryers at exalted |
15:49.49 | mitch0 | yet, that's why it's hard to choose :) |
15:50.01 | sbi | and damage spellthread |
15:50.06 | sbi | so.. i went scryer |
15:50.08 | mitch0 | yes, the ring is nice, then again, the aldor robe is nice, too |
15:50.18 | sbi | aldor is a nice choice too btw :) |
15:50.26 | mitch0 | oh ffs :) |
15:50.47 | mitch0 | I'll go with scryer anyway. they have master enchanter and I like their name better. and they don't have tails. |
15:51.02 | mitch0 | and have better furniture |
15:51.16 | mitch0 | although they look a bit "strange" :) |
15:51.17 | sbi | yeah i live to flirt with those blood elf females too |
15:51.18 | sbi | lol |
15:52.11 | sbi | sha'tar rep is my next challenge :E |
15:52.26 | neenee | Scryers.. Crying with a capital S |
15:52.40 | mitch0 | eh, and that comes from "neenee" :) |
15:52.47 | sbi | neenee, my shift is broken! |
15:52.52 | neenee | :) |
15:53.27 | sbi | m y s pa c eb a r h a s au t o fi r e ac t iv a te d |
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15:54.03 | Pneumatus | guys, does PeriodicTable-3.0-TradeskillResultMats.lua in theory contain the ids of every craftable item per profession? |
15:57.31 | neenee | I do not know. |
15:57.57 | sbi | need more rage! |
15:58.10 | axxo | join the uber R A G E guild on my realm |
15:58.28 | sbi | axxo, too few players? :D |
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16:03.01 | neenee | Ah, my average increasing rate is 0.7KB/s. Seems good :) |
16:03.38 | Pneumatus | 2k :< |
16:03.49 | Pneumatus | oh no, average 4.5k |
16:06.52 | Silviu- | 2.0 |
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16:10.45 | Idylla | can prat link items that you havn't seen but others on the server might have (i don't mind disconnecting) |
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16:11.33 | Gamefaq | hi |
16:16.26 | neenee | Hello |
16:16.57 | art3mis | http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2007-01-31-n71.html |
16:19.07 | neenee | hehe |
16:19.08 | neenee | cute |
16:19.57 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r27641 10BugSack/BugSack-deDE.lua: BugSack: deDE Update |
16:21.04 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: thanks |
16:21.43 | Gamefaq | np |
16:21.47 | art3mis | http://www.thetoque.com/top_five_plus_five_more/top_new_slogans_for_microsoft_windows_vista_20070205.html |
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16:22.51 | neenee | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRNZCZtLvs - Mario World of Warcraft |
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16:26.44 | FISKER_Q | ~seen kaelten |
16:27.10 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 5h 38m 53s, last said: 'I know that you can do https svn I just don't know how to set it up'. |
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16:43.57 | Gastro | everytime i "mouseover" over an item, mendeleev is throwing me this error http://ace.pastey.net/6310 |
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16:44.49 | cncfanatics | g'morning ppl :) |
16:50.39 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r27642 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix escape-closing of the details frame. (The frame I was using to detect escape-closing wasn't being hidden when the tablet was manually closed.) |
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16:53.05 | neenee | Is anyone else experiencing the problem that Closetgnome_Mount doesn't seem to load - No Mount option in Closetgnome for instance |
16:53.37 | vhaarr | It loads, it just has no options in the menu. |
16:53.40 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
16:54.00 | vhaarr | hm, or maybe I added options |
16:54.11 | neenee | There were options, but for one user nothing shows up |
16:54.23 | neenee | oki fixed, was suspended :) |
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17:01.32 | durcyn | Gastro: you appear to be missing PeriodicTable-3.0 |
17:01.44 | durcyn | er, hrm, cancel that, Mend still uses 1.0 |
17:02.12 | durcyn | Gastro: do you have PeriodicTable in addons or Mendeleev\Libs ? |
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17:08.31 | vhaarr | I've got a PT3 Mendeleev branch. |
17:09.32 | vhaarr | It's not done yet, but it works. |
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17:14.19 | Gastro | durcyn: re |
17:14.24 | Gastro | im using standalone libs |
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17:14.34 | durcyn | okay, do you have PeriodicTable installed? |
17:14.42 | Gastro | jep |
17:14.52 | Gastro | hm, my fault... |
17:15.04 | Gastro | i thought mendeleev in trunk is already pt3 |
17:15.06 | Gastro | -.- |
17:16.23 | Elkano | btw: I have a fix for PT1's tradeskill data pending... but haven't had time to test my code yet |
17:17.52 | Hjalte | Can anyone recommend me a simple svn client, that is not tortoisesvn? |
17:18.06 | Elkano | ^^ but I've got to go on fire watch duty in a few minutes |
17:18.20 | Elkano | I could check it in and have others check/fix it ;) |
17:19.06 | nevcairiel | Hjalte: command line |
17:19.46 | FISKER_Q | ~seen Kaelten |
17:20.28 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 6h 32m 11s, last said: 'I know that you can do https svn I just don't know how to set it up'. |
17:20.29 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: too simple :) Actually, all i need is to download mendeleev pt3 version - anyway to do it without a svn client? |
17:20.29 | FISKER_Q | doh |
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17:22.19 | durcyn | Hjalte: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Mendeleev/PT3 |
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17:24.17 | neenee | I just read that Anna Nicole Smith died? |
17:24.31 | durcyn | neenee: and gregory hines! who shall be the third, i wonder? |
17:24.51 | neenee | Well, not me |
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17:25.59 | neenee | :| |
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17:26.12 | neenee | And the World Press Photo contest is depressing too. |
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17:26.45 | neenee | This one I like though: http://www.worldpressphoto.com/images/photocache/photos/2007/NA/Stories/NAS%203/NAS3-LL_520x345x90.jpg |
17:26.54 | neenee | And the various penguin ones |
17:28.49 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r27643 10Epeen/modules/Target.lua: Epeen - Small Fix |
17:29.07 | cncfanatics | anyone here with good experience with the widget API ? I'm having weird problems |
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17:34.18 | Pneumatus | does the author of Cartographer_CorpseWay hang around here? |
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17:38.04 | [Ammo] | Pneumatus: he does/should |
17:38.27 | Pneumatus | i just wondered if it was intentional that the corpse waypoint notes get shared with cart noteshare |
17:38.32 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], could you possibly help me some with a weird problem I'm stuck on since 4 days ? :p |
17:38.40 | Pneumatus | which ofc means they dont get deleted when the person gets their corpse |
17:38.43 | [Ammo] | depends what the problem is cnc |
17:38.53 | cncfanatics | widget API probs |
17:38.57 | cncfanatics | one sec |
17:39.00 | Pneumatus | someone is dying a lot in ashenvale and covering my map in skulls :) |
17:40.04 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], the buttons this code creates: http://ace.pastey.net/6311 |
17:40.12 | cncfanatics | are way too small, they're about 5 pixels high |
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17:41.16 | cncfanatics | and I got no idea why :( |
17:43.44 | Xuerian | No idea about the actual sizing problems, though o.0 |
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17:44.39 | [Ammo] | checking cnc |
17:45.20 | CIA-17 | 03lordrhys * r27644 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (FactionItemsFu.lua FactionItemsFuLocals.lua): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: 2.1.7, updated spelling on some items, fixed missing ] in line 191 |
17:46.03 | [Ammo] | isn't a CheckButton always that size |
17:46.05 | [Ammo] | or am I mistaken |
17:47.40 | Xuerian | cnc: What happens if you just make it a normal frame? |
17:48.03 | Pneumatus | ~seen ckknight |
17:48.08 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 40m 56s ago, saying: 'honestly, it would be awesome if we were given something like SQLite to store data with'. |
17:48.36 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r27645 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
17:48.36 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
17:48.37 | CIA-17 | -Boss: Add missing for RFD, RFK, SM, Deadmines, Ulda, WC. |
17:49.36 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo 07PT3 * r27646 10Mendeleev/ (2 files): Mendeleev (PT3 branch): Flesh out the 1-40 instance loot sets. |
17:50.53 | NeoTron | so when will we see bigwigs support for deadmines? I mean, that vancleef guy is rough! |
17:51.47 | Pneumatus | and what about Hogger? |
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17:54.10 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Get pung? |
17:54.12 | NeoTron | They should add a new outdoor boss mob, Dread Lord Hogger |
17:54.34 | NeoTron | and I still want a raid instance with kobolts |
17:55.04 | NeoTron | Hmm. There are no murlocs in outlands |
17:55.14 | NeoTron | there's nothing like them in fact |
17:55.38 | durcyn | ravagers. huge, mutated, angry murlocs. |
17:55.57 | Pneumatus | they are more useful than murlocs though becuase thye are skinnable |
17:56.12 | cncfanatics | Xuerien, now I did |
17:56.15 | cncfanatics | no idea, lemme try |
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17:58.21 | ckknight | hey all |
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17:59.31 | Xuerian | oy, ckknight. |
17:59.36 | neenee | hello |
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18:05.12 | Pneumatus | ckknight: i dont suppose you've got any idea how I can either stop recieving CorpseWay notes from other people |
18:05.20 | Pneumatus | my map is getting littered with skulls :< |
18:05.25 | ckknight | no |
18:05.40 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
18:06.40 | cncfanatics | Pneumatus, disable recieving general notes |
18:06.47 | cncfanatics | u don't need to recieve those anyway |
18:08.30 | Pneumatus | cncfanatics: thanks will try that |
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18:09.51 | nadas | ~seen Saroz |
18:10.31 | purl | saroz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 131 messages. Is idling for 1d 23h 31m 28s, last said: 'ftw'. |
18:10.49 | Saroz | WHA |
18:11.06 | FISKER_Q | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1171044426294.jpg |
18:11.09 | nadas | :o |
18:11.12 | kagaro | hello ck |
18:11.29 | nadas | Saroz: is sRaidFrames supposed to save changes to filter sets or not? :) |
18:11.42 | neenee | FISKER_Q: hehe |
18:11.45 | Saroz | it resets the 3 filters every time |
18:11.50 | nadas | :( |
18:12.00 | Saroz | outcomment it |
18:12.12 | nadas | nah, it's ok.. |
18:12.24 | Iceroth | is there any way to get ag_uf to show player frame only in party? |
18:12.28 | Saroz | work in progress you know :p |
18:12.30 | nadas | just wondering if it was on purpose |
18:12.57 | Saroz | it is atm :p |
18:13.03 | nadas | our tanks aren't really 'melee dps' atm so wanted them banished from that group ;) |
18:13.14 | Saroz | :p |
18:13.16 | nadas | but they keep sneaking back in! |
18:13.22 | Saroz | gkick |
18:13.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
18:13.28 | nadas | hell yeah |
18:13.43 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, no difference using Frame instead of CheckButton |
18:13.59 | Xuerian | [Ammo]: Theory went poof. |
18:15.15 | axxo | wtb feature for factionfu to remember 'inactive' section collapsed ;x |
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18:26.22 | CIA-17 | 03jerry * r27647 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Babble-Boss french updates |
18:28.29 | CIA-17 | 03fin * r27648 10Prat/extras/util.lua: Prat: polished my bits |
18:28.52 | CIA-17 | 03fin * r27649 10Prat/extras/blank-module.lua: Prat: fixed slash command registration naming |
18:29.00 | kenlyric | make those 0s shine |
18:30.46 | shieldb | kenlyric, http://www.gamespy.com/articles/494/494411p1.html ? |
18:31.27 | kenlyric | ok. |
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18:32.59 | CIA-17 | 03lordrhys * r27650 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (FactionItemsFu.lua FactionItemsFuLocals.lua): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: Fixed missing 'The ' in Scryers and Consortium faction names, fixed problem with displaying count values in FuBar panels |
18:35.26 | shieldb | anyone know if the arcane watchmen that guard the entrance to the menagerie from the broken stair (right before the curator) stop respawning once the curator is down? |
18:36.06 | Pneumatus | lol, i bloody hope so |
18:36.15 | Pneumatus | those guys are nasty :< |
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18:37.27 | Fin | what's the correct mime type for lua files? text/lua? |
18:38.24 | Fin | svn:mime-type=text/plain |
18:39.37 | Fin | I've definitely set this in TortoiseSVN before, I wonder why it didn't save |
18:39.42 | Fin | naughty tortoise |
18:40.13 | CIA-17 | 03fin * r27651 10Prat/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: basic unix/IRC-like /alias functionality in place with adding, listing, and deleting aliases (need to fix up using special characters and expand expansion and alias flexibility) |
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18:48.54 | packetlss | could someone unbreak Babble-Boss? |
18:50.38 | Fin | I can't myself, but I could scribble scrabble dabble on the microphone |
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18:54.10 | nevcairiel | whats broken with it? |
18:54.29 | Arrowmaster | [2007/02/09 13:53:46-1192-x1]: Babble-Boss-2.2\Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:1484: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 1030) near '[' |
18:55.14 | CIA-17 | 03jerry * r27652 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed typo and added a missing translation |
18:55.17 | Arrowmaster | i was about to fix it myself but i dont have it checked out from dev |
18:55.22 | nevcairiel | bah! |
18:55.27 | Tornhoof | did they fix that properties bug in that other svn client?, i don't like that desktop integration of tortoise |
18:55.28 | nevcairiel | i was just commiting |
18:55.31 | nevcairiel | and now it failed :D |
18:55.35 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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19:01.55 | chuckg | I wonder how hard it would be to readd /aguf config |
19:02.06 | Xuerian | Out of curiosity, does anyone know how loot rolls look in non-english languages, in the chat log? Does it still use the YOU string, of the respective language, instead of the player name? |
19:02.21 | Fin | impossible! crazy talk! madness! |
19:02.40 | neenee | Xuerian: Not a clue |
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19:05.43 | Xuerian | Wonder how I could get my hands on a non-enXX GlobalStrings.lua.... |
19:07.01 | Saint-N | go to any of the ui sites and find one thats in german ;P |
19:07.33 | Chinku | Xuerian: just tried it with the German client, the roll message obviously uses the player name. |
19:08.13 | Xuerian | Chinku: As in there's no "You passed on xxxxx" or "You rolled X on XXX", it's just "Playername did this"? |
19:08.48 | Chinku | Xuerian: well, I did it as /random 100, without a specific loot window. |
19:09.11 | Xuerian | Chinku: Ahh, heh. Yeah, I didn't say I meant group loot rolls. Thanks for checking though =) |
19:11.13 | Tornhoof | according to my guild it's localized You ("Ihr") |
19:11.37 | Xuerian | Tornhoof: Excellent. Thanks a bundle for asking - Saves a few matches and a lot of frustration =) |
19:11.55 | Lysithea | anyone got any idea how fast you get arena points? |
19:13.37 | Fin | dunno if this'll help: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-1.12-frFR.lua |
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19:22.53 | Xuerian | Does actually, thanks Fin. |
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19:35.44 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6837#cmnt32081 |
19:35.49 | Tekkub | *points at comments* |
19:36.03 | Tekkub | please back me up, those of you that like my mods ^^ |
19:36.17 | Tekkub | I'm not in the mood for whiney fuckers like that |
19:38.12 | Pneumatus | <3 Tekkub |
19:38.52 | Saint-N | you make mods? |
19:39.05 | Saint-N | i thought you just hung around and lipped people off ;) |
19:39.27 | yacoob | that's a part of true mod making, apparently you're not a jedi yet. |
19:39.46 | Tekkub | fuck you all |
19:40.06 | Saint-N | what mod are we talking about though? |
19:40.08 | Saint-N | i use eqcompare |
19:40.11 | ckknight | I find it's better to ignore them and bitch at them on my own territory, i.e. IRC |
19:40.17 | Saint-N | hahah ckk |
19:40.28 | Pneumatus | i assume CV just hooks the comparison frames, i'm sure it could hook the tekkompare frames in the same way |
19:40.30 | Saint-N | no worries EVERYONE that codes eventually hits this phase |
19:40.32 | Tekkub | yea ckk, if I could I'd disable the comment threads on WoWI completely |
19:40.39 | ckknight | Tekkub: yep. |
19:40.47 | Saint-N | i did on my godwars constantly |
19:40.48 | Tekkub | hits? |
19:40.54 | Tekkub | phase? |
19:41.05 | Saint-N | i had two generic responses "i rule. you suck. die" |
19:41.22 | Saint-N | and "go away kid, ya bother me" |
19:41.24 | Xuerian | Saint-N: This isn't a phase. |
19:41.27 | Xuerian | This is Tekkub. |
19:41.33 | Saint-N | haha |
19:41.34 | Tekkub | I code for me |
19:41.36 | Saint-N | toche! |
19:41.38 | Saint-N | touche! |
19:41.42 | Tekkub | I code for the sake of fixing bad code |
19:41.43 | Saint-N | as everyone should |
19:41.43 | yacoob | Tekkub, just don't give damn about this whiner. |
19:41.55 | Saint-N | except ckk |
19:41.59 | Tekkub | tekKompare is a cleanup of EQCompare/PquipCompare |
19:42.00 | yacoob | "If you want something I don't, add it yourself" |
19:42.00 | Saint-N | he should be a code slave for our whims |
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19:42.17 | Tekkub | yea well... hrm... |
19:42.25 | Saint-N | hehe tekk, feel free to tell mazzle i stole her uf's and art and ditched the rest of her crappy compilation ;P |
19:42.38 | yacoob | Tekkub, btw, what licence are your mods released by? |
19:42.40 | Tekkub | I'm gonna talk to Cair/Dolby about killing the comment threads |
19:42.50 | Tekkub | I don't do licenses |
19:42.51 | ckknight | Tekkub: seems like a useful feature |
19:43.13 | ckknight | I like to assume Tek's mods are somewhere between public domain and MIT |
19:43.16 | Saint-N | so tekk explain what yer mod does for me |
19:43.27 | yacoob | then he's not allowed to do it by himself :)) |
19:43.43 | Tekkub | what's the basic simple feature EQCompare and EquipCompare do? |
19:44.01 | ckknight | Tekkub: I was wondering if you'd add a feature to allow the equip tooltip only show when you push a modifier |
19:44.02 | ckknight | jk. |
19:44.03 | Saint-N | so it's THAT without hovering? |
19:44.19 | Tekkub | hovering is fluff |
19:44.24 | Saint-N | hovering is handy |
19:44.25 | Tekkub | I took out the fluff :) |
19:44.32 | Saint-N | i hate having to click shit to see its stats |
19:44.38 | Gngsk | I was wondering if you'd fluff me, my wife hasn't been performing well lately. |
19:44.51 | Tekkub | I don't, I've been clicking for 2 years |
19:45.01 | Saint-N | ya know what WOULD be a good addon for that kind of thing though tek? |
19:45.13 | Tekkub | stick with EQCompare |
19:45.14 | Saint-N | err no addon "bonusfeature" |
19:45.24 | Saint-N | a differences winder |
19:45.34 | Pneumatus | if it worked out the differences and told you which item was better? |
19:45.42 | Saint-N | correcto |
19:45.44 | Saint-N | cuz im lazy |
19:45.49 | Saint-N | ;) |
19:45.55 | Saint-N | and i hate thinking |
19:46.01 | Pneumatus | can it also pls equip the best items and cast spells |
19:46.10 | yacoob | Saint-N, get glider |
19:46.11 | Saint-N | Tekkub: i clicked for 2 years too, but then i found the ability to hover and see crap and thus i was happy |
19:46.12 | Tekkub | I'd personally like for the dressup window to show new stats as well |
19:46.45 | Saint-N | hahaha |
19:46.45 | yacoob | your toon will be leveled up, while you'll be able to drink booze or something. |
19:46.45 | Tekkub | I don't know why it doesn't, that should have been put in before the asthetic compare was |
19:46.45 | Saint-N | youdont drink while you play already? |
19:46.52 | neenee | trying out TekKompare |
19:46.54 | Tekkub | I'm drinking already |
19:46.59 | Tekkub | fucking users |
19:47.03 | Saint-N | heh |
19:47.07 | yacoob | o/~ and a bottle of rum! o/~ |
19:47.09 | Xuerian | Saint-N: Again, it Tekkub. |
19:47.17 | Saint-N | i do like the differences idear though |
19:47.34 | Saint-N | yeah never noticed that he was a world class strung out asshole ;P |
19:47.41 | Tekkub | it's just root beer.. but it is in a bottle.. and I'll upgrade soon |
19:47.46 | Saint-N | maybe it's because im like him in real life to actual people that pay me |
19:48.03 | Tekkub | people don't pay me |
19:48.11 | Tekkub | if they did, I might be nicer |
19:48.13 | Saint-N | thats where your problem lies ;P |
19:48.18 | Saint-N | no you wouldnt |
19:48.26 | Tekkub | yea I would... to their face |
19:48.30 | Saint-N | just because they give you money doesnt mean they get treated better ;P |
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19:48.37 | Xuerian | Tekkub: Magic 8-Ball says: Outlook not so good. |
19:48.44 | Saint-N | "no stop being dumb and do NOT install nortons again" |
19:48.53 | Xuerian | (amen) |
19:49.02 | Tekkub | ugh... yea speaking of |
19:49.10 | Tekkub | I forgot what a PITA spyware was |
19:49.14 | Tekkub | it's gotten worse |
19:49.24 | neenee | hm. seems to work fine |
19:49.26 | Saint-N | spybot |
19:49.28 | Tekkub | I can't route out whatever snuck into my comp |
19:49.28 | Saint-N | yay! |
19:49.37 | Tekkub | blasted crackz sites |
19:49.45 | Saint-N | www.mlin.net |
19:49.49 | Saint-N | startup control panel rules |
19:50.15 | Saint-N | i wish the new futuramas would start already |
19:50.18 | Tekkub | uh no, I havn't restarted since I was infected |
19:50.28 | Tekkub | I don't remember when I last booted |
19:50.33 | Saint-N | oh |
19:50.41 | Saint-N | spybot and hijack this |
19:50.45 | Saint-N | and tinger |
19:50.47 | Saint-N | stinger |
19:50.51 | Xuerian | Tekkub: Procmon. |
19:50.52 | Saint-N | stinger is good for finding trojans |
19:51.06 | Tekkub | I don't think it's a process tho.... |
19:51.06 | cncfanatics | Tekkub, can u help me a second ? :) |
19:51.18 | Xuerian | Tekkub: It monitors all file/reg access |
19:51.19 | Tekkub | it sounds odd, but it only does shit when Firefox is open |
19:51.28 | Tekkub | and it does it in fucking IE |
19:51.30 | kenlyric | lord, save me from people who think they can clean compromises off their computers. |
19:51.31 | Saint-N | spybotand hijack will allow yo to change the reg entries for search features and crap that most crack site use to infect |
19:51.37 | Xuerian | Oooo. Code injection XD |
19:51.43 | kenlyric | If you run as admin in windows and get owned, you are fucked. Rebuild. |
19:51.51 | Saint-N | heh |
19:51.56 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, the best way is to not use windows :p |
19:52.07 | ckknight | you guys have all the fun, I'm on a mac and I can't install all those cool spyware programs |
19:52.15 | Xuerian | kenlyric: Tell that to boot sector viruses :P |
19:52.18 | Saint-N | clean install...all updates..install softwre you use..ghost the drive to an image file on a dvd..run rampant |
19:52.18 | kenlyric | yes, and then either don't use windows, don't run as admin, or don't get owned. |
19:52.24 | cncfanatics | ckknight, linux here :p |
19:52.27 | Tekkub | I've not had a virus/spyware in years |
19:52.29 | Arrowmaster | heh ive been using the admin account on windows since i built this box like 3 years ago |
19:52.36 | Tekkub | and I refuse to fix it on other's comps |
19:52.38 | Saint-N | ive had 2 virii in 15 years |
19:52.44 | Tekkub | I'll deal with this, I'm not mad |
19:52.46 | Tekkub | :) |
19:52.50 | Saint-N | and both were me purposly running them to see thier effects |
19:52.54 | cncfanatics | anyone can help with this code ? http://ace.pastey.net/6311 ? the frames it makes are 5 pixels wide for some reason |
19:53.17 | Tekkub | cnc, I suck at GUI :P |
19:53.40 | cncfanatics | me too |
19:53.49 | Saint-N | so does ckk ;) |
19:53.55 | cncfanatics | but I need to know why those shit icons this code makes are 5x wide and can't be resized |
19:54.00 | cncfanatics | i'm stuck on that since 4 days |
19:54.23 | ckknight | I'm just a minimalist |
19:54.29 | Saint-N | heh |
19:54.31 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Does it size it right without adding anything to it/setting anything? IE, before line 9? |
19:55.06 | cncfanatics | before line 9 ? |
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19:55.11 | cncfanatics | before line 9 the frame doesn't exist |
19:55.19 | Tekkub | if you want them to fill the frame, you can just use :SetAllPoints(frame) can't you? |
19:55.24 | cncfanatics | or wait, wrong code :p |
19:55.32 | cncfanatics | can't make it fill UIParent -.- |
19:55.32 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: what'chu smokin ,.< |
19:55.35 | Xuerian | <.<* |
19:55.35 | cncfanatics | its parent is UIParent, so |
19:55.46 | cncfanatics | lemme try Xuerian |
19:56.09 | Xuerian | Of course you'll have to attach it to something then something to it to see, or give it a temporary backdrop... |
19:56.23 | Gngsk | Tekkub, what's the macro to make corkfu do it's thing? /click something? |
19:56.36 | Tekkub | CorkFuFarme I think |
19:56.45 | ckknight | the world is small. I now have the air conditioner of my university's president |
19:56.48 | Gngsk | aye |
19:56.50 | Gngsk | just found it, thx |
19:57.06 | Saint-N | check inside and see if thats where he stored his coke |
19:57.49 | Saint-N | wonder what wow would be like spanned across multiple monitors |
19:58.02 | Saint-N | or if the display border would drive me insane |
19:58.08 | Tekkub | it's like wow on two monitors |
19:58.38 | Saint-N | the only time i had my machine running two monitors wow only spawned on one of them and wouldnt stretch |
19:58.52 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, no it doesn't |
19:58.59 | Tekkub | there are ways |
19:59.02 | kenlyric | it stretches just fine |
19:59.23 | cncfanatics | anyone good with GUI around ? :( |
19:59.31 | neenee | A gui for what? |
19:59.35 | Saint-N | calc ken.and.his.bum <kenlyric> it stretches just fine |
19:59.38 | Saint-N | ;) |
19:59.46 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: o.0 |
19:59.57 | kenlyric | are you coming on to me? |
19:59.58 | cncfanatics | neenee, i'm having probs with my frame creation script |
20:00.00 | cncfanatics | and got no clue whats wrong |
20:00.04 | kenlyric | cause, more please. |
20:00.06 | Saint-N | should i be? |
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20:00.41 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: So if you create a "Frame" based on "SecureActionButtonTemplate", right after creation and sizing/backdrop (without doing anything else after), it's 4px? |
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20:01.01 | cncfanatics | lemme check |
20:01.20 | cncfanatics | removing my sizing stuff |
20:01.21 | neenee | cncfanatics: Ah. |
20:02.08 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, yes it is |
20:02.22 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Blame SABT >.< |
20:02.38 | Xuerian | Try another secure button template? |
20:02.44 | cncfanatics | lemme just remove it |
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20:03.50 | cncfanatics | oh btw, GetWidth returns 9.999999999999994 |
20:03.54 | cncfanatics | and if I setWidth to 32 |
20:04.00 | cncfanatics | and then do getwidth, it returns 32 |
20:04.07 | cncfanatics | even tho the size of the button didnt change by an inch |
20:04.38 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, same stuff if I remove the SABT |
20:04.40 | Xuerian | I'm curious though. Is it only the visible size, or interact size? IE, does it recieve clicks within the 32 px area |
20:04.51 | cncfanatics | good question |
20:05.14 | cncfanatics | readded my sizing code, checking |
20:05.49 | cncfanatics | hmmm wtf ? |
20:05.55 | cncfanatics | now suddenly SetWidth is working |
20:06.00 | Xuerian | o.0 |
20:06.08 | yacoob | heisenbug |
20:06.11 | cncfanatics | but only when calling it from /script |
20:07.11 | cncfanatics | hmmm, when I do GetWidth from chatbox, the return is 9.999... |
20:07.18 | cncfanatics | even tho SetWidth was done to 32 |
20:07.23 | cncfanatics | what is this shit ? |
20:07.40 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: jus gots da bad voodedoos! |
20:07.50 | cncfanatics | sucks |
20:08.02 | CIA-17 | 03Heron * r27653 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: Added ParserLib to OptionalDeps |
20:08.27 | cncfanatics | gonna try something |
20:08.39 | kergoth | booored |
20:08.51 | cncfanatics | kergoth, help me then :p |
20:08.55 | cncfanatics | the voodoo is against me |
20:09.02 | kergoth | i'm at work, what i can do is limited |
20:09.05 | kergoth | oh get this |
20:09.11 | kergoth | happyhacker.org is blocked |
20:09.14 | kergoth | stupid filtesr |
20:09.23 | kergoth | oh noes, the happy hacker keyboards have "hack" in the name! |
20:10.30 | Xuerian | kergoth: I take it you'd get nailed for using Tor :P |
20:11.53 | Saint-N | that addon always makes me sing kmfdm in my head |
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20:12.34 | kergoth | <3 kmfdm |
20:12.59 | cncfanatics | omfg |
20:13.02 | cncfanatics | I'm so DUMB |
20:13.04 | cncfanatics | DUMB |
20:13.05 | cncfanatics | DUMB |
20:13.24 | Xuerian | That means I'm dumb. Why are we dumb? :P |
20:13.25 | kergoth | kmfdm, better than th ebest.. magalomaniacal... at least the song stuck in my head is a decent on |
20:13.25 | Saint-N | you've got cnc in yer name it's more or less a given |
20:13.28 | Saint-N | ;) |
20:13.40 | Saint-N | hehe MORTAL KOMBAT! |
20:13.41 | cncfanatics | fixed my problem :) |
20:13.45 | cncfanatics | finaly damnit |
20:13.49 | Saint-N | i need that addon for wow |
20:13.49 | Xuerian | What was it? :p |
20:14.08 | kergoth | wasnt juke joint jezebel in the mk movie? |
20:14.16 | Saint-N | start of fights it says FIGHT! in scrolling text, and when you kill something FATALITY! YOU WIN! |
20:14.18 | kergoth | thinkl that was the first kmfdm song i eve rheard |
20:14.30 | Saint-N | mk2 was meglomania |
20:14.46 | kergoth | meh, mk2 sucked, i liked the first :) |
20:14.53 | Saint-N | heh and when druids shaapeshift ANIMALITY! |
20:14.58 | Saint-N | they both ruled |
20:15.19 | Saint-N | as one review said "considering it was a fighting video game, they didnt do half bad" |
20:15.31 | Saint-N | although the first one was better because it had the highlander in it |
20:15.32 | snurre- | hm, are any addons atm fucking with chat? |
20:15.39 | snurre- | i updated with wau, now i cant see any chat |
20:15.47 | ckknight | I blame Gnomes |
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20:16.37 | kergoth | Saint-N: christopher lampert rocks, i love that weird voice of his |
20:16.47 | Saint-N | "All Gnomes are fire, it's up to the horde to help them remember this." |
20:16.48 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: What was it, damnit! |
20:18.26 | cncfanatics | Xuerian, some sizing code in another file -.- |
20:18.50 | Xuerian | ... |
20:19.01 | Saint-N | wow |
20:19.15 | Saint-N | the head of cartoon netowrk stepped down today over the bomb scare fiasco |
20:19.30 | Saint-N | cost tuner broadcasting 2mil |
20:21.36 | ckknight | that's too bad |
20:22.09 | Saint-N | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUaQVZHzyI&eurl= |
20:22.16 | Saint-N | it was a brilliant marketing ploy |
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20:23.23 | Saint-N | now i have the stray cats in my head |
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20:25.26 | Saint-N | it's been said that over 3/4's of all americans can't do siple arithmatic, the other 50% |
20:25.26 | Saint-N | can |
20:25.26 | Xuerian | How the frick can ("Greed Roll - 90 for |cffffffff|Hitem:2589:0:0:0:0:0:0:771111515|h[Linen Cloth]|h|r by Cairnriil"):find("^Greed Roll - (.-) for (.-) by (.-)$") find "- 90"?! |
20:26.54 | Saint-N | wow my speeling is horrid 2day |
20:28.07 | Saint-N | use \'s? |
20:28.09 | kergoth | Xuerian: because - is special. |
20:28.16 | kergoth | " -" is a non-greedy match of multuiple spaces |
20:28.30 | kergoth | escape the ones used as seperators in the string you're matching, i'd say |
20:28.31 | Xuerian | kergoth: yeabutit'snotinsdeaCAPTURE! >,< |
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20:28.41 | kergoth | hm? |
20:28.52 | kergoth | listen |
20:28.56 | kergoth | "Roll - " |
20:28.59 | kergoth | will match "Roll " |
20:29.06 | kergoth | and the .- will match the rest |
20:29.09 | kergoth | "- 90" |
20:29.16 | kergoth | fix your pattern :P |
20:29.19 | Xuerian | Right, but - transcends the power of braces to capture things? |
20:29.25 | kergoth | what? |
20:29.49 | Xuerian | hm. |
20:29.50 | Xuerian | Nevermind. |
20:29.50 | kergoth | the actual "- 90" is within the () match |
20:29.54 | kergoth | as i just described above |
20:30.07 | kergoth | :P |
20:30.21 | kergoth | i suck at lua patterns, but i know regex, so i run into that sort of crap all th etime |
20:30.32 | kergoth | knowing what to escape and what not, when, is a pain in the ass |
20:30.44 | kergoth | man, i <3 that nameplate modifer addon |
20:30.58 | kergoth | hiding the border, adding health %, and using the 'steel' texture for the nameplate health bars = hot |
20:31.07 | Xuerian | nyeeargh. Patterns, fun, yet annoying. Also. Link |
20:31.08 | Iceroth | :o |
20:31.10 | Iceroth | wot's that |
20:31.22 | kergoth | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6852-1.0.1.html |
20:31.48 | Iceroth | neat |
20:32.12 | Xuerian | Click casting now? Sweet. |
20:32.22 | kergoth | did he add it? i know he was working on it |
20:32.23 | Saint-N | too bad nameplates are teh ghey |
20:32.49 | kergoth | i find them invaluable to keep an eye on where the group's dps is going in 5 mans at a glance, myself |
20:33.02 | Xuerian | Yep... |
20:33.03 | Xuerian | Nice. |
20:33.47 | vithos | yeah, i wish nameplates weren't just by distance. |
20:34.23 | vithos | showing all party targets nameplates, or maybe all party incombat would be nice |
20:34.31 | kergoth | thatd be cool |
20:34.35 | Saint-N | graphix toggle |
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20:34.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | click casting on nameplates? |
20:35.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | i would like to see a nice list of all mobs that are aggrod on your group |
20:35.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | like a bulleted list that you can click on |
20:35.41 | kergoth | perfecttargets was something like that |
20:35.44 | kergoth | but you cant click on it anymore |
20:35.46 | kergoth | due to the 2.0 changes |
20:36.27 | Xuerian | Yeah, perfecttargets was shiny |
20:36.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | it would be nice to see how many guys are fighting you and their life |
20:37.00 | RaydenUnicyclist | and be able to target them based on that |
20:37.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | is there something that just displays still? is it ace? |
20:37.13 | kergoth | as a rogue, especially in disoragnized groups, i need to know who's dps'ing what |
20:37.20 | kergoth | theres still perfecttargets, someone updated it |
20:37.24 | kergoth | i havent tested it htough |
20:37.51 | RaydenUnicyclist | i don't understand the fascination that people have with slapping "perfect" onto everything |
20:38.07 | kergoth | everything? |
20:38.12 | kergoth | there was perfectraid, and then perfecttargets |
20:38.14 | kergoth | made sense to me |
20:39.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | what does maintank do? |
20:39.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | war3 maps often have "perfect" in their name |
20:39.26 | ag` | Name plates annoy me because: (1) too much bling graphics around the bar, (2) who cares what level stuff is (3) no damn guild name |
20:39.26 | vithos | i'd like to see a node graph of combat with flow lines for targets. |
20:39.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | lol |
20:39.34 | RaydenUnicyclist | that would be sweet |
20:39.46 | durcyn | ag`: i only use it for the casting bar, yeah :/ |
20:39.48 | kergoth | ag`: you can hide the border around the bar with the addon i linked above, thats a start |
20:39.53 | kergoth | i'm sure he'll be adding more features |
20:39.57 | ag` | kergoth: okay |
20:40.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | mmm. directed combat graph |
20:40.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | you can't get the amount of hate built up can you? |
20:41.00 | vithos | with "flowing combat text" lol |
20:41.08 | Xuerian | Hm, I need names for some SEE-Loot events: "Roll Selected", "Rolled", "Roll Won", and "Roll All Passed"... Or should I just use that... >.> |
20:42.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | like select a unit and then display how much hate he has for all the players |
20:42.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | so if you are dps you could keep your hate below the tanks |
20:42.34 | Harshmage | "Ninja" "Hoping" "Perfect Ninja" and "Everyone's Indecisive" |
20:42.45 | Xuerian | Harshmage: lol. :P |
20:43.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | man, my friend accidentally ninja's two blues in BRD last night |
20:43.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | first one was a chest, Ghostshroud. rogue really wanted it but he didn't realize it would auto loot or something |
20:43.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | then 2nd was after we had turned on free loot for a moment |
20:44.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | no one has any idea bout my hate idea? |
20:44.06 | vithos | all the loot policies suck |
20:44.53 | vithos | ffa+rolling on bops would be great |
20:45.36 | Harshmage | Killing Blow Loots. |
20:47.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | or you know.. sum the value of previous loots and let whoever has the least sum loot next |
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20:47.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | but that's crazy talk |
20:49.37 | vithos | or.. anyone loots; give each non-bop individually to a random player; roll on bops |
20:50.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | give non-bop only on green+ stuff? |
20:50.31 | RaydenUnicyclist | or all stuff? |
20:51.02 | vithos | i guess you'd need the choice on that, depending on whether you trust the party |
20:51.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | cause whoever loots would get all the white stuff |
20:51.35 | RaydenUnicyclist | i think some system that stores all the loot till the end would be nice.. but perhaps overcomplicated |
20:51.56 | vithos | and then if someone got disconnected they'd be screwed |
20:52.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah |
20:53.37 | vid` | http://myspace-971.vo.llnwd.net/00569/17/95/569475971_l.jpg |
20:53.49 | vid` | always nice when you can get a rear tire off the ground :P |
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20:55.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | I just switched over to using the ora2 package from the new wau beta |
20:56.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm getting an ora2 optional error now.. Am I supposed to be doing anything with ora? like run a batch file or anything? |
21:00.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | [2007/02/09 15:59:44-372-x1]: oRA2_Optional\PlayerTarget.lua:1543: 'for' limit must be a number (line 1543: for k = 1, self.db.profile.nrpts, 1 do) |
21:00.30 | Nomad_Wanderer | That looks like a mishap, not checking if there are any player targets I think |
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21:02.15 | Arilaw | Yeah, oRA2 kind of blew up after a recent update, I'll have to see if it's still doing the same thing. |
21:06.46 | sbu | uhm |
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21:07.19 | sbu | babble-boss german broken :/ translation glutton does not exist? |
21:07.24 | Amadeo | Asus' Vista motherboards look sweet |
21:07.29 | sbu | well - its in - but commented out |
21:07.30 | sbu | :/ |
21:09.36 | Iceroth | what's vista motherboard? |
21:09.49 | Amadeo | http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q1/asus-vistaedition/index.x?pg=1 |
21:10.33 | Arilaw | Vista edition... lol. |
21:11.18 | Amadeo | I doubt it's worth whatever the price is, but it's cool to see that they are working on utilizing technology |
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21:11.59 | Tornhoof | heh, tpm support but no tpm module supplied |
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21:13.10 | Amadeo | heh |
21:13.15 | vithos | uhhhh, lol@that article |
21:13.17 | Amadeo | SOE's new MMOG is going to be some sort of spy game |
21:13.19 | Amadeo | http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22677 |
21:13.45 | vithos | specifically, using flash memory as cache to improve performance |
21:13.57 | vithos | "because there's no mechanical latency" |
21:14.17 | Amadeo | vithos: I believe they mean a spinning disk |
21:14.36 | RUBiK | hmm.. why am i being prompted for a passwd when do an svn co of Decursive off the trunk? |
21:14.44 | RUBiK | (no other addon prompts me) |
21:15.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | The author may have asked for it? |
21:15.40 | RUBiK | i doubt it.. at least not intentionally, i'm sure |
21:15.43 | vithos | right, but 1) the IO is so much slower that you're probably better off waiting for the seek and 2) enjoy your ruined flash memory after a few years, hope it's replacable. |
21:16.24 | Amadeo | vithos: Flash drives cost like $10 on sale these days, I think anyone can afford $10 every few years |
21:16.48 | Xuerian | Wasn't the implementation of flash memory on the mobo/similar supposed to be for caching the bootup/shutdown sequence, nothing else? |
21:16.50 | Tornhoof | that nand memory module won't even survive a few years |
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21:17.04 | Amadeo | Most people that are buying a $350-400 motherboard probably upgrade their PC quite often, also |
21:17.09 | vithos | maybe, but it's not a usb keyfob, and there's one corporation controlling the price of replacement |
21:17.25 | vithos | the point is it's engineered to fail, and quickly |
21:17.26 | Amadeo | So I imagine in a few years, they'll have an entire new motherboard :) |
21:18.08 | vithos | yeah i just pulled "few years" out of the air |
21:18.23 | vithos | i'd like to see statistics on writes per day with that in use. |
21:18.32 | Amadeo | I personally have no idea how it's engineered, as I wasn't there to engineer the motherboard ;) |
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21:19.00 | Amadeo | It's possible that it's rarely used |
21:19.09 | Amadeo | They note the option that you can use it as a boot drive |
21:19.21 | vithos | most flash memory lasts 1 million write cycles |
21:19.34 | Amadeo | I've had the CF card in my digital camera for years now |
21:19.36 | Amadeo | It still works |
21:19.42 | vithos | that's because you're using it appropriately |
21:19.46 | Tornhoof | this is for readyboost |
21:19.48 | vithos | not as a disk cache |
21:19.56 | Tornhoof | meaning pretty much every application can be put there |
21:20.18 | Tornhoof | so you have like 1000 write cycles a day probably |
21:20.30 | Amadeo | But that's not to say it will be, or if it's engineered differently to last longer |
21:21.18 | Tornhoof | nand memory is limited there |
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21:21.27 | Tornhoof | it's cheap and fine for usb sticks |
21:21.31 | Punkie` | ello |
21:21.32 | Tornhoof | but not for caching purposes |
21:22.10 | Amadeo | I'd hope that it's just as cheap, especially since there is no USB component, but who knows...who knows if it's even replaceable |
21:22.37 | RUBiK | so it looks like the trunk\Decursive libs are somehow linked in using http://dev.wowace.com/ so that's why it prompts for password on checkout... |
21:22.57 | Punkie` | hey guys, does anyone know if there is an ace mod atm (recently updated one ofc) that is causing people do disconnect? |
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21:23.42 | Punkie` | If I turn all my addons off it seems to be okay, but something's disconnecting me :( |
21:23.49 | Tornhoof | according to that picture?, its soldered to the board |
21:23.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Keep adding and subtracting |
21:24.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | It's best to do a binary search Punkie. |
21:24.17 | Nomad_Wanderer | Check them all. log in. get disconnected. |
21:24.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | uncheck the first half. login, get disconnected |
21:24.38 | Nomad_Wanderer | uncheck half of the second half etc. |
21:24.39 | kergoth | <3 overlord for that |
21:24.44 | Punkie` | oki doke :) |
21:24.51 | kergoth | tem's addon manager addon, can select a block of addons and disable them |
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21:25.47 | Punkie` | if i load tekSupport do you think it may give me a little pointer to what could be causing it? |
21:27.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | maybe.. but disco's are usually blizzard throttling you |
21:27.44 | Amadeo | I thought it was just bad music |
21:27.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | i.e. your spamming too much info maybe? |
21:28.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | Binary search is the best way to go, but you could maybe try unchecking anything that communicates to other players somehow, and get lucky... |
21:29.11 | Punkie` | Yeah, I thought it could have been ColaMachine |
21:29.15 | Punkie` | So I disabled it |
21:29.25 | Amadeo | Where's the best place to buy some sort of universal power adapter for small devices? Wall-wart type |
21:29.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm running that.. that's not it ) |
21:29.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | Radio shack? |
21:29.39 | Punkie` | I just got this error: [2007/02/09 21:26:09-506-x10]: AceEvent-2.0-25921 (Ace2):434: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'mem' (a nil value) |
21:29.39 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
21:29.56 | Amadeo | Maybe, let me look if they list any |
21:30.01 | Amadeo | Radio Shack is a tiny store these days |
21:30.05 | Amadeo | they don't have much anymore |
21:30.07 | Punkie` | Although that could be tekSupport as I just loaded it |
21:32.18 | kergoth | i love that hte name of the mozilla firefox browser nightlies is "Minefield" |
21:32.20 | kergoth | it amuses me |
21:32.26 | kergoth | i am, admittedly, easily amused, but even so |
21:32.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | What's wrong with being easily amused? |
21:32.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is it somehow better to be not so easily amused? |
21:33.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | Personally, Amused>Not AMused imo |
21:33.21 | kergoth | true |
21:34.29 | Amadeo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5yOJ_-Z3s |
21:34.31 | Amadeo | that thing is cool |
21:34.31 | Amadeo | hah |
21:35.10 | Arilaw | Hmm. |
21:35.16 | Arilaw | I need to get someone to port PoisonMaster to Ace. |
21:35.21 | kergoth | poisonmaster? |
21:35.46 | kergoth | if its an assist at creating/buying poisons, use hemlock or the one haste did |
21:35.53 | kergoth | both work very well |
21:35.57 | Punkie` | Yeah, Atropine is pretty nice :) |
21:36.05 | kergoth | thats the one, couldnt remembver the name |
21:36.17 | Punkie` | using it now, looks pretty also |
21:36.24 | kergoth | yeah i love the look of that |
21:36.34 | kergoth | waterfalllib should look that sexy |
21:36.59 | Amadeo | That Dragonfly thing is only $50 |
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21:37.09 | Punkie` | I just disabled Carto_Noteshare btw, I haven't been disconnected (yet!) |
21:37.53 | Punkie` | Is there a library to deal with addon messages? |
21:38.17 | kergoth | you mean like AceComm? |
21:38.26 | Punkie` | I have no idea! That's why I asked :P |
21:38.37 | kergoth | i suggest looking in the noteshare libs dir |
21:38.39 | kergoth | not difficult |
21:38.40 | kergoth | :P |
21:38.57 | Punkie` | hihi, well it should throttle addon messages or something |
21:39.43 | Punkie` | also, it shouldn't share peoples death skulls |
21:39.48 | Punkie` | because that's pretty annoying :D |
21:39.48 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r27654 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
21:39.48 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable-3.0 |
21:39.48 | CIA-17 | -Reorganize buffs by effect |
21:39.48 | CIA-17 | -Add some missing tbc items |
21:40.05 | Pneumatus | Punkie`: thats a problem with the death marker addon imo |
21:40.09 | Pneumatus | not noteshare |
21:40.18 | Pneumatus | you can disable general notes being shared to stop it though |
21:40.21 | Arilaw | kergoth: Yeah, a nice addon by Daito for buying poison reagents and making poisons. I tried the other Ace poison making addon (forget what it's called) but it doesn't let you set a threshold for poisons, only buys reagents for 5 at a time regardless of what you've got. |
21:41.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | If you are just looking for a reagent srestocker, free refills is the one.. if you also want the crafting side, then not sure |
21:42.50 | Punkie` | Anywho's still no disconnect :D (score!) |
21:43.10 | Punkie` | btw Atropine does auto poison refills and checks your bags for any reagents beforehand |
21:43.24 | Punkie` | (i dont mean to blow his trumpet or whatever) |
21:43.27 | Arilaw | Does it let you set a threshold and buy reagents to top off your supplies? |
21:43.31 | Arilaw | If it does I'll use it. :P |
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21:44.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | Free refills will buy any reagent and make sure you have the number you specify when you talk to a reagent vendor. |
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21:45.34 | Punkie` | it does yes Arilaw |
21:45.41 | kergoth | buydropper is pretty nice, its freerefills with a UI |
21:45.51 | kergoth | Arilaw: both atropine and hemlock do that. |
21:46.00 | Arilaw | Do they craft too? |
21:46.03 | kergoth | yes |
21:46.09 | Arilaw | Ooh. |
21:46.12 | kergoth | not automatically, have to hit a button a couple times |
21:46.16 | kergoth | but its not exactly rocket science either |
21:46.37 | JoshBorke | in aguf, does the pet scaling take in to account ui scaling? |
21:50.23 | Pneumatus | anyone know why /bw Extras CustomBar global is disabled and i cant re-enable it on Bigwigs? |
21:51.16 | durcyn | are you the leader of a raid group? |
21:51.21 | Pneumatus | uhuh |
21:51.34 | durcyn | does /bwcb <time> <string> work ? |
21:52.21 | Pneumatus | bwcb is a local bar? |
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21:52.41 | Pneumatus | yeh, bwcb and /bw extras custombar local works |
21:54.04 | durcyn | bwcb is a sync'ed custombar, bwlcb is local |
21:54.18 | Pneumatus | ah, i'll just use bwcb then |
21:58.56 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r27655 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: AutoTurnin: Add Scryer, fix issue with Cenarion exp |
22:02.11 | Punkie` | okay guys just FYI, it was definately Cartographer_Noteshare that was causing me to d/c :) |
22:02.22 | Punkie` | i probably have too many of those message mods or something :S |
22:07.54 | Xuerian | Oh for Yatlas. |
22:08.43 | _neuron_ | Punkie`, thanks, I've been disconnecting the last 2 days or so too |
22:08.47 | _neuron_ | it's driving me friggin nuts |
22:09.49 | yacoob | in a week, truly epic thing will happen. |
22:10.00 | _neuron_ | hehe |
22:10.20 | yacoob | and man, what a frantic update of addons it will be... 8) |
22:10.46 | _neuron_ | yeah :P |
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22:14.34 | Xuerian | Does the druid aquatic form quest bug out occasionally? |
22:17.02 | NeoTron | Xuerian: I can't recall having had a problem but I've only had 2 druids do it |
22:17.04 | NeoTron | or maybe 3 |
22:17.12 | NeoTron | and neither recently |
22:17.24 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Some newb druid can't complete the quest, because she literally can't open the westfall chest |
22:19.56 | Saint-N | abandon and restart? |
22:20.51 | NeoTron | Xuerian: weird |
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22:22.27 | Punkie` | _neuron_ did that help you out? ^^ |
22:23.28 | _neuron_ | Punkie`, well I've disabled the noteshare for now and I'll see :P |
22:23.40 | Punkie` | hehe, cool - hope it sorts you out :) |
22:24.07 | Punkie` | does anyone use Opera here btw? :o |
22:25.33 | Xuerian | Yeah, about that. Forgot you can't get things while in a raid, and she was in my testing raid. |
22:25.34 | Xuerian | XD |
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22:29.17 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27656 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
22:29.17 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
22:29.17 | CIA-17 | - Add some debug output when the skill level of something's not found (probably because of the mining/smelting wording difference) |
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22:38.04 | Punkie` | _neuron_, it's been disabled for an hour now and I've had no disconnects ^^ |
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22:44.56 | Chinku | nymbia: got news for you - GetMouseFocus():GetName() yielded "EnchantrixBarker_OptionsSlider_4" as result for those invisible things we talked about yesterday. |
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22:51.45 | paranoidi | questfu tracker framestrata is not working and is set to highest at default ;P |
22:51.58 | nymbia | Chinku: then i'm betting enchantrix is the culprit ;) |
22:53.07 | paranoidi | mmm, strata setting works after ui reload .. |
22:53.17 | Garoun|Loupana | love Devtools for finding that stuff :) |
22:53.49 | Garoun|Loupana | to nymbia that is |
22:54.34 | Amadeo | Druids are nuts |
22:54.38 | Amadeo | My Warrior can't even touch them |
22:54.45 | Garoun|Loupana | I am not |
22:54.48 | pastamancer | re-writing the unit iterator is the most exciting part of new rosterlib versions |
22:54.50 | Amadeo | You're nuts! |
22:54.50 | Garoun|Loupana | slightly demented... but not nuts |
22:54.51 | pastamancer | http://ace.pastey.net/6318 |
22:54.53 | Iceroth | armor nerf hurts :-( |
22:55.00 | Amadeo | What armor nerf? |
22:55.12 | Tain | All armor has been turned into tissue paper. |
22:55.20 | Iceroth | i have like 18-19k armor, <65% mitigation |
22:55.29 | Amadeo | That's bad? |
22:55.32 | Punkie` | Rogues are nuts! |
22:55.53 | Iceroth | yeah it is |
22:56.02 | Barbanus | Iceroth, you are a druid? |
22:56.04 | Garoun|Loupana | yep I either go 19k af with 9600 hp, or 15k af with 10555 hp (both with fort of course), at lvl 68 |
22:56.04 | Iceroth | not that much new stuff with high armor in tbc |
22:56.09 | Barbanus | and nerfed when? |
22:56.14 | Iceroth | that would have been 75% at lvl 60 in the good old days |
22:56.19 | Iceroth | yeah barb |
22:56.31 | Kemayo | paranoidi: Yeah, you have to reload the UI when changing the strata. I'll change the default back to low, though. |
22:56.40 | Amadeo | I just don't see why Druids should be able to beat Warriors every time without ever having to leave Bear form :P |
22:57.15 | Garoun|Loupana | you mean as opposed to druids use to have one method for beating a warrior pre-bc?.... |
22:57.18 | Garoun|Loupana | aka travel form |
22:57.31 | paranoidi | Kemayo: yeah I think that it would be best default. Additionally I got some error about dewdrop but my standalone libs might be out of date .. |
22:57.33 | Amadeo | No, back then it was just Bear form and a heal |
22:57.39 | Barbanus | gogo green legs with 475 armor!! http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=30941 |
22:57.41 | Iceroth | hamstring > travel form |
22:58.12 | Amadeo | Now it's no healing necessary :) |
22:58.48 | Garoun|Loupana | in the past a druid was pretty much an easy kill for most classes without them really knowing what they are doing |
22:59.12 | Amadeo | That's only if the Druid didn't know how to play the class well in PvP |
22:59.17 | Barbanus | 550 armor on a 2h mace is also fucking nuts |
22:59.26 | Garoun|Loupana | misstyped: if a druid didn't know how to play they were easy kills |
22:59.29 | Kemayo | paranoidi: pastey the error? |
22:59.31 | Barbanus | sorry, with the right gear, druids can hit 75% reduction easy. |
22:59.47 | Barbanus | I don't see the armor nerf :P |
22:59.57 | Garoun|Loupana | yep, but that means nothing if they sacrifice dodge, hp, and resil/def |
23:00.09 | Kemayo | (I'm debugging my SO's WoW install on a Vista laptop from a few thousand miles away. It's a bit of a pain.) |
23:00.14 | Amadeo | eh? all that means is a gear swap, Druids don't even have to respec |
23:00.34 | Amadeo | Imagine if a Warrior specced Protection but also got the Fury Tree with it |
23:00.36 | Garoun|Loupana | if you aren't specced right youwon't be tanking like the druids warriors complain about :) |
23:00.36 | Amadeo | that's a Druid |
23:00.38 | Amadeo | :P |
23:01.01 | Xuerian | Druids must know how to play, know how to gear, and have the guild to get geared, and one that will let them get geared. After going through this, we get to pwn, we get to do multiple things, and we get to do them well if we know how. |
23:01.06 | Barbanus | Well protection warriors got a new form. |
23:01.22 | Barbanus | They call it bear form .. learn to love it :P |
23:01.34 | Amadeo | Xuerian: I dunno about all that, almost every TBC reward has good melee leather |
23:01.35 | NeoTron | what Xuerian says is that, essentially, it's rough as hell being a druid tank |
23:01.39 | NeoTron | because you can't just pick any gear |
23:01.51 | Amadeo | Try being a Warrior, where all the quest gear is for Paladins :P |
23:01.54 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm not saying blizz won't modify stuff some, but I worked my ass off to get to the level of tanking as I can right now |
23:01.55 | NeoTron | and TBC rewards work ok in 5-mans |
23:02.09 | Xuerian | Amadeo: Not the way it was when I was gearing up to 60. I can't talk about the rest though, I suppose - I don't have bc yet. |
23:02.16 | Barbanus | Amadeo rofl? paladins who are wearing warrior gear are fucking retards. |
23:02.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Am I the only one who's not up in arms about druid tanking? (as a warrior, that is) |
23:02.21 | Amadeo | but this is basic WoW knowledge, everyone knows this by now |
23:02.27 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: I think you are |
23:02.33 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: And I for one, applaud you o.0 |
23:02.36 | Garoun|Loupana | I wish there wer emore like you night :P |
23:02.44 | Amadeo | Barbanus: Huh? |
23:02.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: I freaking love good druids, regardless of what they do :) |
23:02.54 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: <3 |
23:02.58 | Garoun|Loupana | all I ever heard pre-bc was warriors complaining about always having to be the tank/prot spec... |
23:03.09 | NeoTron | remember also that warriors get 10% damage reduction from all damage |
23:03.13 | Garoun|Loupana | now they have druids to fill that spot and they complain even more :) |
23:03.18 | Xuerian | Haha. |
23:03.22 | NeoTron | so a druid with 75% is == warior with 65% in pure reduction |
23:03.25 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: 16% vs magic if specced right :) |
23:03.27 | NeoTron | and warrior has parry and block |
23:03.28 | Amadeo | The only thing I hate about my Warrior is that I'm useless in PvP without a complete support team, and I'm the only class in game that's like it |
23:03.29 | Barbanus | Amadeo, I assume you are referring to paladins wanting warrior gear? |
23:03.42 | Amadeo | NeoTron: Druids also have up to 40% avoidance, which ends up being the same thing |
23:03.43 | NeoTron | Amadeo: you and every healer specced healer |
23:03.52 | NeoTron | Amadeo: not necessarily if they get so much armor |
23:03.56 | NeoTron | Amadeo: it's a tradeoff |
23:03.58 | Barbanus | NeoTron, lol amen. |
23:03.59 | Amadeo | NeoTron: They have the option to respec and hold their own, Warriors don't |
23:04.10 | NeoTron | you can't just get 40% dodge, 75% armor reduction and 20k hp |
23:04.16 | NeoTron | Amadeo: why not? |
23:04.18 | Amadeo | I guarantee you can |
23:04.22 | Amadeo | Just wait until end game |
23:04.32 | Iceroth | getting to the end game is the problem |
23:04.33 | Amadeo | Druids already have 30% dodge with crazy stats |
23:04.46 | Iceroth | the king in kruul's lair hit to my 16k armor (at that time) for 8k or so |
23:04.46 | NeoTron | and how much parry/dodge does a warrior have? |
23:04.48 | Amadeo | When I fight Druids, they dodge more than Rogues - In Bear form |
23:05.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: if in any gear, a druid can stand on 40% dodge, 75% mitigation, and 20k health while a warrior cant get comparable stats.. THEN something is broken. With gear available riht now though it's fairly balanced |
23:05.06 | NeoTron | they hardly wear their tank gear when pvping |
23:05.13 | Amadeo | NeoTron: Combined avoidance is about the same between Warrior/Druid |
23:05.15 | Barbanus | NeoTron, you are most likely wearing t3, which is nerfed to hell because of the new combat ratings... |
23:05.16 | Arilaw | Hooray, going home from work. |
23:05.17 | Tornhoof | yeh nighthawk |
23:05.19 | Barbanus | sorry t3 is BADDDDDDD now |
23:05.27 | Barbanus | especially for warriors |
23:05.29 | Garoun|Loupana | the main thing that has to be kept in mind is a druid requires gear and spec to be better then the similar class... without both... yeah right |
23:05.32 | Arilaw | Gotta pick up a gamecard on the way home. :( |
23:05.32 | Tornhoof | since endgame tanking is warrior game |
23:05.34 | Tornhoof | not druid |
23:05.38 | Barbanus | because of the combat rating. |
23:05.38 | NeoTron | Barbanus: hah no. I'm a warlock that got 60 2 weeks before BC |
23:05.42 | Arilaw | You kids have fun. o/ |
23:05.44 | Arilaw | Be back later. |
23:05.49 | Barbanus | NeoTron, ahh heh |
23:06.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Tornhoof: eh, i think there should be opportunities and niches for both druids and warriors, and even palllies, hell :P |
23:06.15 | Tornhoof | yeh |
23:06.16 | NeoTron | but a good friend is a feral druid and I've played (and pvped) with my priest and resto druid before |
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23:06.23 | NightHawkTheSane | especially considering each class excels at different styles of tanking. |
23:06.28 | Tornhoof | yes |
23:06.35 | Tornhoof | end game tanking |
23:06.44 | Saint-N | oh man that was awesome!!! |
23:06.46 | Xuerian | Torn is right. Though druids can (Ok, could, my PoR) hold their own in many boss fights, they just can't equal warriors. They're excellent offtanks or co-tanks, but for head-on damage druids are second if skill is equal |
23:06.59 | Saint-N | my bsd shutdown vnodes was 9 0 2 1 0 |
23:07.06 | NeoTron | the only benefit a druid has over a warrior |
23:07.09 | Amadeo | Barbanus: Oh, no...I was just talking about the TBC quest rewards...almost every Plate reward has some caster stat, so it's useless for my Warrior |
23:07.19 | NeoTron | is that with a gear change and form change, they can be DPS or Tank without respec |
23:07.22 | Amadeo | I'd say 9 of 10 quests are for Paladins instead of Warriors |
23:07.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: well, yeah, thats what i mean. for one-on-one boss fights, a warrior will really excel. But against multiple periodic spawns, druids have a distinct advantage. |
23:07.31 | Saint-N | and there are a lot of quests out there that dont even give cloth rewards so shush |
23:07.32 | Barbanus | Amadeo, aahhh okay, misunderstood you |
23:07.45 | NeoTron | Amadeo: that is a correct complaint for sure. it's almost weirdly biased |
23:07.58 | Barbanus | Amadeo, yea .. its because blizzard overcompensated for the lack of hybrid gear pre-BC |
23:08.05 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Slightly less so now, but yeah, we still have the advantage on trash and many 5-mans. Then again, how many warriors ever want to tank 5-mans? |
23:08.05 | Garoun|Loupana | As a druid I'm just sick of having to use up 80% of my bag space for gear suits... sigh |
23:08.07 | Tornhoof | nothing bad about that nighthawk |
23:08.13 | NeoTron | but yes, you can now imagine how a hybrid felt before |
23:08.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: me. :) |
23:08.21 | NeoTron | and there's quite a lot of warrior dps gear |
23:08.26 | Barbanus | Garoun|Loupana, I do the same as a paladin. |
23:08.33 | NightHawkTheSane | But i actually really enjoy tanking. Hell I leveled 60->70 prot specced. :\ |
23:08.34 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Yep, "One", probably a valid answer XD |
23:08.39 | NeoTron | and I did the same as a priest |
23:08.47 | NeoTron | I had pvp gear, healing gear, stamina gear.. regen gear |
23:08.48 | Amadeo | Barbanus: Yeah, but that just turns the tables instead of actually fixing it :) |
23:08.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: probably :) |
23:08.53 | NeoTron | it's not unique to druids :) |
23:09.06 | Barbanus | Amadeo, agreed. |
23:09.16 | NeoTron | Amadeo: they had stated 60->70 gear is priamrily levelling gear |
23:09.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Garoun|Loupana: thats not unique to druids, i have over a full set of gear with me at all times on my warrior |
23:09.56 | Garoun|Loupana | I tend to have dps/tank/healing almost every one of them has unique gear |
23:09.57 | Xuerian | I have almost four full bags of gear. |
23:10.11 | Barbanus | Xuerian, I had about that when I was raiding |
23:10.24 | Barbanus | I've got less now however, its all in my bank |
23:10.30 | Garoun|Loupana | only one I dont' have is casting dps, because I'm not really into teh whole moonkin thing :P |
23:10.38 | Xuerian | Same, Garoun|Loupana :P |
23:10.40 | Tornhoof | oomkin dance |
23:10.42 | Amadeo | NeoTron: Yeah, it just makes it difficult on my Warrior...a lot of my gear is from level 61-ish, while I'm almost 67 |
23:11.27 | Barbanus | seems to be LOTS of good fury weapons tho |
23:11.34 | Tornhoof | forget warrior dps |
23:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: yeah, tell me about it. for the longest time i was wearing stuff from BF/SP/Underbog at level 68-70, because nothing would drop, and quest rewards suck |
23:11.38 | Barbanus | and warriors are really weapon dependant (like rogues of course) |
23:11.56 | Garoun|Loupana | the most amusing thing is what class, until now, has one of their best form rings as a lvl 50 reward :P |
23:12.13 | Kemayo | My main is a prot warrior, and I have yet to see the group of DPS 5 levels higher than me that could pull a boss off me. |
23:12.15 | Garoun|Loupana | Band of the Great Tortoise... how I loathe thee |
23:12.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I know a warrior in my guild actually wore pally plate for a while, because despite being pally gear, it was -better- than anything else he could get ahold of. :\ |
23:12.40 | Tornhoof | a bit int won't hurt :D |
23:12.42 | Amadeo | Kemayo: Yeah, single target aggro is fine for a Warrior |
23:12.46 | Kemayo | (Incidentally, it was pretty fun running Scholo for the epic pally quest with a group ranging from 62-67.) |
23:13.03 | Xuerian | Garoun|Loupana: Hehe. Get the Gurubashi ring and the EPL quest ring :) |
23:13.04 | Garoun|Loupana | we have to do that soon Kemayo |
23:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: yeah, bosses are trivial. but those 5+ pulls in shattered halls and shadow lab make my head hurt. :P |
23:13.18 | Garoun|Loupana | I wear dual Ramparts rings now in bear. it's all good :) |
23:13.32 | Xuerian | >.> |
23:13.46 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r27657 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
23:13.46 | CIA-17 | TradeskillInfo : |
23:13.46 | CIA-17 | - Updated skill level on alot of recipes. |
23:13.51 | Iceroth | 1 armor ring from old hillsbrad, 1 from karazhan quest |
23:13.53 | Kemayo | Yeah, I suck at groups. |
23:14.03 | Garoun|Loupana | I've only done up to mana tombs :P |
23:14.12 | Iceroth | haven't seen a good druid tank trinket in tbc though |
23:14.21 | NeoTron | one from heroic boss kill tokens |
23:14.24 | Garoun|Loupana | most of my levels have come from quests/grinding |
23:14.27 | kergoth | i need to get my lazy rogue ass past 64 |
23:14.40 | Garoun|Loupana | I use Regal and good old Smoking Heart in bear right now |
23:15.07 | Garoun|Loupana | (important note, I didn't raid, so my gear had a grand total of like 2 purples in it) |
23:15.12 | NightHawkTheSane | There's a trinket that drops from Blackheart the inciter in shadow lab that'd be good for a druid tank |
23:15.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I think it's +def, with a use effect of +armor |
23:15.30 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Not really good. |
23:15.32 | Iceroth | mark of tyranny and then gnomish engineering chicken trinket, 45 stam |
23:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | oh? why? (i'm no expert on druid tanking stats, honestly) |
23:15.58 | Amadeo | kergoth: Get to Nagrand and just start ganking everyone, it's STV 2.0 after all |
23:16.07 | Xuerian | +def is secondary to other stats most of the time, and OnUse is teh not usable. (Or is it now?) |
23:16.22 | Garoun|Loupana | you can use trinkets in form |
23:16.33 | Xuerian | Hm, well, it might be good then :) |
23:16.33 | Garoun|Loupana | that's why I use the regal for the +900 max hp |
23:17.04 | Garoun|Loupana | saves me from insta gib on occasion |
23:17.04 | kergoth | Amadeo: hehe, pve server |
23:17.10 | kergoth | nagrand is a good idea though, i'm a skinner :) |
23:17.19 | Amadeo | aww |
23:17.35 | Amadeo | I think I'm gonna level up a Druid, be FOTM! |
23:17.40 | nymbia | Xuerian: that's one major problem i forsee with many druid tanks.... no +def means you're gonna get crit and crushed. and if you say resilience i'm gonna cry ;) |
23:17.49 | Amadeo | I keep saying it and not doing it though, because I hate leveling up newbies |
23:17.53 | Garoun|Loupana | Amadeo that's the primary reason I hate being consider FOTM |
23:17.58 | Xuerian | nymbia: Yep |
23:18.03 | Amadeo | Just tell everyone you made your Druid back when they sucked |
23:18.13 | Xuerian | nymbia: That's why I said it's secondary - It depends on how you're trying to gear. |
23:18.13 | Garoun|Loupana | it's like being a popular indie ban that sells out and goes mainstream... |
23:18.16 | Amadeo | I have a Warlock, people said that to me also, but my Warlock has been around a long time :) |
23:18.18 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: druid tanks are going to get crushed, regardless, they -can't- get that much avoidance |
23:18.32 | nymbia | Xuerian: but there's a major lack of itemization for leather +def so.. :( |
23:18.35 | Xuerian | Yeah. We take the crushes :P |
23:18.48 | NeoTron | nymbia: my druid tank friend already has mxed out defense for l72 bosses, and close to l73 ones |
23:18.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: which is why you get so much armor and hp to begin with ;) |
23:19.06 | Xuerian | So many other warriors don't get that :p |
23:19.08 | Garoun|Loupana | af, hp, dodge... rest in resil/def |
23:19.10 | NeoTron | but the druid set gear is retarded |
23:19.14 | nymbia | NeoTron: there's no 'max' defense like there is for resist |
23:19.23 | NeoTron | int and spirit and +heal on the feral set |
23:19.23 | Garoun|Loupana | our only avoidance is dodge |
23:19.30 | NeoTron | and in terms of getting crit, yes there is |
23:19.32 | Amadeo | I wonder about Crushing Blows...how often do bosses do that? |
23:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: 15% of the time. |
23:19.49 | NeoTron | more defense helps but for a druid it's much less significant |
23:20.06 | NeoTron | and with a -3% chance to be critted you only need enough defense to get 2% less chance to get critted I believe |
23:20.11 | NeoTron | or 3% or something along those lines |
23:20.12 | Amadeo | So a Druid probably mitigates the same amount as a Warrior then, including the Crushing Blows...considering the Druid will probably take less damage through the normal hits |
23:20.12 | NightHawkTheSane | The only way to avoid being crushed is to get enough miss/dodge/parry/block to push that 15% off the table |
23:20.31 | NeoTron | druid and warrior are similar for tanking |
23:20.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: yeah. the extra armor compensates for all the crushes you get. Warriors are expected to avoid most of them. |
23:20.52 | NeoTron | warrior has more powerful abilities of survival (last stand, shield wall... ability to use potions and health stones etc) |
23:21.11 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: block, eh? ;) |
23:21.19 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: yes, block |
23:21.20 | Amadeo | NeoTron: In PvE I agree, but I disagree from a PvP standpoint |
23:21.22 | Iceroth | blocked attack can't crit |
23:21.29 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: but yeah, most bear tanks have some significant dodge |
23:21.37 | NeoTron | Amadeo: I don't care much about pvp :) |
23:21.38 | Garoun|Loupana | there are a ton of things added to increase block now... my god lol |
23:21.40 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: 100% dodge, though? :P |
23:21.41 | Amadeo | I do! |
23:21.42 | Amadeo | hehe |
23:21.58 | Xuerian | I have a bitter spot against pvp |
23:22.05 | Xuerian | I got fun things nerfed. |
23:22.17 | NeoTron | the druid does have the benefit of "itemrack => equip feral dps" instead of "respec dps and use other gear" of warrior |
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23:22.25 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: THEY BETTER OR THEY ARENT TANKING FOR ME! ;) |
23:22.30 | NeoTron | but a tank pve specced druid will be missing some pvp talents |
23:22.31 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: lol :) |
23:22.37 | Silverstorm | guys, guys...it's wowace, closetgnome, please =p |
23:22.44 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: actually, prot warrior dps isn't actually as bad as it used to be |
23:22.45 | kergoth | itemrack 2.0 is hot |
23:22.51 | kergoth | equip queues for all slots.. mm |
23:22.53 | Iceroth | umh yeah.. and the itemrack also fixes the other 2/3 aspects of the class if you choose to spec melee? |
23:22.54 | Xuerian | Itemrack is hawt indeed |
23:22.57 | NeoTron | Silverstorm: nah. no like closetgnome |
23:22.59 | Silverstorm | haven't tried 2.0, still hvae 1.99, and thought I'd check CG |
23:23.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ItemRack owns my soul. |
23:23.19 | Amadeo | I've been using ClosetGnome, but there's such huge lag when you swap sets |
23:23.36 | Silverstorm | hmm, haven't noticed that yet, but I'm only swapping for mounted right now |
23:23.37 | Amadeo | I heard if you just make an item swap macro, you don't trigger big GCs or something |
23:23.54 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: esp when you consider that sub 20%, prot warriors are superior to MS warriors and -almost- on par with fury warriors for execute dps |
23:23.59 | Kemayo | Amadeo: That's what made me stop using the auto-swap-on-about-to-die module. It made me die more because of the lag. |
23:24.12 | Saint-N | laugh |
23:24.24 | Saint-N | my fav thing so far is automatons autodismount |
23:24.29 | Amadeo | Kemayo: Yeah, if I get too much aggro, I switch to my shield and run...but then I lock up for a few seconds and die...so... :P |
23:24.32 | kergoth | man, ohnoes was nice, but i failed to finish a boss off solo multiple times in pug 5 mans |
23:24.35 | Saint-N | and accidently clicking a trinket, and dismounting while you're flying |
23:24.36 | kergoth | had to drop it |
23:24.39 | NeoTron | Amadeo: lag from swapping gear sets is often accounted for by the bag addons |
23:24.45 | NeoTron | not the swapping itself |
23:24.53 | Amadeo | NeoTron: What do you mean? I'm using OneBag |
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23:25.04 | Silverstorm | is there a good auto-dismount mod? I still have stupidmount, but it's not getting all the cases anymore |
23:25.05 | NeoTron | if the bag is sorted / recalculate inventory on events |
23:25.15 | kergoth | automaton's dismount module works well |
23:25.15 | Amadeo | Oh, I don't think it does |
23:25.20 | NeoTron | and 1) don't filter out events when closed, 2) don't use a timeout for resorting |
23:25.23 | kergoth | most of automaton's modules work well, really |
23:25.23 | NeoTron | it can take a lot of cpu |
23:25.38 | NeoTron | since when swapping a gear set it can recalculate the inventory like 8+ times |
23:25.46 | Garoun|Loupana | Xuerian: at this point I'm just dreading the rep grind to earthwarden |
23:25.50 | NeoTron | easy to test |
23:25.57 | NeoTron | disable the bag addon and see if the lag goes away |
23:26.00 | Amadeo | NeoTron: That sounds more like a sorting-bag addon, OneBag is just a big display |
23:26.04 | Xuerian | Garoun|Loupana: I don't even know what earthwarden is -.- |
23:26.14 | NeoTron | it's also possible other addons (like ones that calculate bonuses from equipment for example) does things |
23:26.25 | NeoTron | Amadeo: typically yes, but you never know |
23:26.33 | Amadeo | I can try |
23:26.39 | NeoTron | still if you get lag there most likely some addon is doing something |
23:26.48 | NeoTron | you can try using the ktm performance meter or whatever it's called |
23:26.55 | NeoTron | if it still works |
23:26.57 | kergoth | fire up teksupport, equip something, see how it looks |
23:27.00 | Garoun|Loupana | it's the epic CE mace |
23:27.02 | NeoTron | and see which addons it lists as using a lot of cpu after swapping gear a few times |
23:27.08 | Xuerian | Ahhh o.o |
23:27.09 | Silverstorm | that poses an interesting question...is there a mod that could track which mods trap which events? |
23:27.10 | NeoTron | kergoth: is that a performance meter thing? |
23:27.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Garoun|Loupana: the rep grind isnt th at bad. just run steamvaults a bunch ;) |
23:27.28 | kergoth | yea, can watch events or onupdates for ram / cpu |
23:27.38 | Garoun|Loupana | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29171 |
23:27.39 | kergoth | i'm sure it taints the world, but you wouldnt run it all the time |
23:27.41 | Garoun|Loupana | that one Xuerian |
23:28.01 | Garoun|Loupana | would much rather have Staff of Natural Fury... but well, that isn't gonna happen |
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23:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27770 huh, this is an interesting trinket. |
23:29.10 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29359 |
23:29.13 | NeoTron | Feral Staff of Lashing |
23:29.19 | NeoTron | better for tanking than the CE one |
23:29.25 | Xuerian | Garoun|Loupana: <twitch> |
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23:29.32 | Iceroth | ce lacks stam |
23:29.37 | Iceroth | armor is nice but no stam |
23:29.38 | Xuerian | Holy freaking hell o_0 |
23:29.58 | Xuerian | ... must... get.... bc..... get... staff.... |
23:29.58 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah I know :) |
23:29.59 | NeoTron | problem is, it's not known wheer it comes from |
23:30.01 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: hmm.. heroic mode drop? |
23:30.08 | Garoun|Loupana | the CE one is the only 'guaranteed' though |
23:30.11 | NeoTron | it's sort of low item level for that |
23:30.16 | NightHawkTheSane | not really |
23:30.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ilvl 95 |
23:30.21 | NeoTron | Garoun|Loupana: for sure, it's easy to get relatively speaking |
23:30.27 | NightHawkTheSane | which is the ilvl used for the epic drops from heroic mode instnaces |
23:30.29 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: heroic mode epics seems to be ilevel 100 |
23:30.37 | kergoth | i wish wowhead and the cart instanceloot module distinguished between heroic and non at a glance |
23:30.38 | NightHawkTheSane | I thought they were ilvl 95? |
23:30.40 | kergoth | rather than itemlevel only |
23:30.42 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29242 |
23:30.43 | Tornhoof | ilvl95 i think |
23:30.47 | NeoTron | end of slave pens |
23:31.21 | NeoTron | perhaps it varies, I'veo nly see one end-of-heroic epic |
23:31.34 | Silverstorm | _neuron_ you there? have a question on nQL |
23:31.39 | _neuron_ | semi Silverstorm |
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23:31.57 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: if you look at the other epic drops from that boss, they're ilvl 95 |
23:32.11 | Silverstorm | noticed that the log updates when an objective updates, but the detail pane has to be closed and re-opened to copy that? any plan to sync those two? |
23:32.12 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29241 murmur also ilevel 100 |
23:32.38 | _neuron_ | Silverstorm, hm, yeah, that'd be easy to fix, just haven't thought about it |
23:32.49 | Garoun|Loupana | I dunno if anyone even really knows where the lashing drops :/ |
23:32.55 | Garoun|Loupana | nothing on head, alla, or thott |
23:32.58 | Silverstorm | ok, I'll leave you a note on the forum thread |
23:33.09 | _neuron_ | thanks |
23:33.12 | NeoTron | so I guess they have bothj |
23:33.17 | NightHawkTheSane | seems so. odd. |
23:33.18 | NeoTron | like one ilevel 100, rest being ilevel 95 |
23:33.35 | _neuron_ | it's just not refreshing that frame that often ;) |
23:33.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. I'd wager the staff is a heroic drop, still |
23:33.45 | NeoTron | makes sense yes |
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23:34.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Didn't know that even existed though. Good to know for the bear tank in my guild :) |
23:34.39 | Xuerian | Bleeding hell that's uber x.x |
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23:40.04 | cncfanatics | can anyone tell me the point of Manufac ? |
23:40.11 | cncfanatics | just shows all stuff I can make without sorting |
23:40.40 | kergoth | its supposed to be an alternative interface to crafting, rather than using the blizzard interface, afaik |
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23:41.11 | cncfanatics | no sorting at all available atm it seems |
23:41.17 | cncfanatics | well, at least I can't find any |
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23:43.23 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: erm... it should have things sorted into categories at the least |
23:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, i suspect I -may- have too much music, if such a thing were remotely possible. |
23:44.06 | Tain | Inconceivable! |
23:44.42 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane, doesn't sort anything at all for my jewelcrafting |
23:45.07 | RUBiK | WTB addon that will cast (possible?) or at least remind me to cast track minerals on a rez.. i *always* forget |
23:45.19 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: ahh, well that could be because it hasn't been updated for that, maybe? |
23:45.23 | kergoth | RUBiK: smartbuff can |
23:45.26 | kergoth | thats what i use |
23:45.26 | cncfanatics | I guess |
23:45.37 | RUBiK | kergoth: whoa.. i must get! ty |
23:45.38 | Feldia | anyone know if baggins (periodic table?) has been fixed yet? |
23:45.42 | NightHawkTheSane | You can manually assign categories, though that may be painful |
23:45.43 | Feldia | with the sorting features etc |
23:45.45 | kergoth | Feldia: ? |
23:45.50 | Nargiddley | fixed how ? |
23:45.52 | kergoth | works fine here |
23:45.55 | Feldia | hurm |
23:46.00 | Feldia | most of the sorting has broken for me |
23:46.08 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane: how to make ur own ? |
23:46.09 | Feldia | it just seperates think into basic groupings |
23:46.14 | kergoth | remember to recreate the categories based on pt sets if you havent since the switch to pt3 |
23:46.15 | Nargiddley | redo your rules, the change to PT3 renamed all sets |
23:46.17 | Thorgard_ | Feldia, you mean stuff showing up in the 'other' categories and stuff? ;P |
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23:46.29 | Feldia | oh is that what I need? bleh |
23:46.44 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: ahh, go to a recipe, and there should be a "group" menu option that gives you a text entry box, type in the category name you want and hit return. It should put it in that category (adding it if it didn't already exist0 |
23:46.59 | Feldia | alright thanks, I'll do that I guess |
23:47.04 | cncfanatics | all items in unsorted are gray |
23:47.07 | cncfanatics | can't do shit with em |
23:47.19 | Feldia | no everything is sorted |
23:47.24 | Feldia | just, for example, under "Consumables" |
23:47.30 | Feldia | I only have one category, "misc" |
23:47.45 | cncfanatics | I only have one category, unsorted |
23:47.53 | cncfanatics | jewelcrafter though, probably not made for that yetr |
23:47.56 | Feldia | it used to split it into several |
23:47.59 | Feldia | food potions elixirs etc |
23:48.41 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
23:48.45 | Feldia | yea and I'm lookg at it |
23:48.53 | Feldia | there are several categories here for each heading |
23:48.57 | Feldia | they just aren't being sorted |
23:49.03 | cncfanatics | all TBC stuff is unsorted also |
23:49.05 | cncfanatics | fel iron, etc |
23:49.10 | cncfanatics | (mining this time) |
23:49.22 | Amadeo | Linspire is going to begin basing distributions on Ubuntu instead of Debian |
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23:49.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. all the new TBC stuff isn't put into groups as nymbia hasnt updated the trunk version in a while, it should be usable, and let you put them into your own groups though |
23:49.52 | Amadeo | Soon everything will be Ubuntu |
23:49.59 | Amadeo | and Ubuntu will be the new MS! |
23:50.03 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, Debian box installed here, but considering ubuntu :p |
23:50.09 | Amadeo | Well, Canonical or whatever they are |
23:50.42 | gezr | so, I forgot the mods name to help you guys with the new boss fights, could someone help me out, on what I need to do to get you guys up on the encounters? |
23:50.42 | SoBe- | can anyone confirm this new patch will add a portal from karazhan door to aran? |
23:50.42 | Feldia | it will indeed |
23:50.42 | Feldia | after aran is killed |
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23:50.43 | SoBe- | sweet |
23:51.01 | Amadeo | cncfanatics: I don't really know the difference, other than the fact that Ubuntu has a lot of third party apps to help people install things, etc |
23:51.06 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: yeah. someone sent me a list of some of the low level jeweling stuff but.. need to know what categories to put em in too |
23:51.47 | cncfanatics | yea Amadeo |
23:51.50 | cncfanatics | thats why I cba to switch |
23:51.57 | cncfanatics | but if I do have to reinstall, i will install ubuntu |
23:52.05 | cncfanatics | nymbia, I got a 360 jewelcrafter |
23:52.09 | cncfanatics | I'm sure I can help |
23:52.15 | cncfanatics | and mining too, fel iron and such is left unsorted |
23:52.21 | gezr | cncfanatics : does your nick have anything to do with cnc motion control? |
23:52.30 | cncfanatics | nope gezr |
23:52.52 | cncfanatics | oh and nymbia, u can't craft unsorted stuff, bug ? |
23:52.53 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: yeah, im checking on my JC'er too, hes only 70something, but you should be able to manually sort into groups if you wanted. Just go Unsorted->some recipe->Grouping and enter the group you want, that doesn't work? |
23:53.13 | cncfanatics | everything in the unsorted tab is grayed out |
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23:53.23 | NightHawkTheSane | weird |
23:53.37 | nymbia | oh that's the skill level coloring |
23:53.40 | gezr | any of you guys had any luck in karazhan? |
23:53.52 | Feldia | luck? not really |
23:53.56 | Feldia | cleared pretty well all of it htough |
23:53.58 | Feldia | :P |
23:54.25 | cncfanatics | well nymbia, I can't select anything, the tab's dont expand any further |
23:54.36 | Feldia | ahh |
23:54.39 | gezr | moroes caused some problems with no palys, were on to the juilet event heh |
23:54.40 | Feldia | I just freshly installed baggins |
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23:54.43 | Feldia | and it's all being sorted properly now |
23:54.51 | nymbia | cncfanatics: using the branch or trunk? |
23:55.09 | cncfanatics | trunk |
23:55.33 | cncfanatics | using the zip from 10 mins ago actualy |
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23:55.39 | nymbia | cncfanatics: hm |
23:55.43 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r27658 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: |
23:55.43 | CIA-17 | Baggins: |
23:55.44 | CIA-17 | - Specialty Bag empty slots will now compress properly |
23:55.54 | kergoth | Nargiddley: woot, that one was annoying :) |
23:58.00 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07Cleanup * r27659 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
23:58.00 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
23:58.00 | CIA-17 | - Be less terrible about fetching the skill level. |
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23:58.56 | NeoTron | Nargiddley: any progress in making baggings somewhat less chaotic in the item group placements? :) |
23:59.34 | Nargiddley | not yet |
23:59.58 | Nargiddley | hopefully get the config done this weekend, then i'll work on that |