| 00:01.11 | Tekkub | I'll look tonight and see if I can trick it into working |
| 00:01.11 | Industrial | http://tinyurl.com/35cyl6 |
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| 00:01.25 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:01.29 | Funkeh` | nice pic |
| 00:01.32 | Barbanus | Industrial, I'm confused |
| 00:01.38 | Industrial | why :D |
| 00:02.02 | Funkeh` | 0.00 its obviously photoshopped |
| 00:02.22 | Industrial | nop |
| 00:02.53 | Funkeh` | go do a 25 man raid somewhere with a bunch of people that use the most inefficient syncing addons see how much it grows |
| 00:02.56 | Barbanus | I'm not sure what its supposed to be :P |
| 00:03.25 | Funkeh` | it imply's he likes gnomes |
| 00:03.37 | Barbanus | Funkeh`, we have to convince our guildies to spec pve first.... |
| 00:04.54 | ravagernl | tekkub: whatevah :P |
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| 00:05.41 | Barbanus | Tekkub, wonder when that is gonna be :P |
| 00:06.03 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 00:06.28 | ravagernl | Im not hoping it will be soom |
| 00:06.54 | ravagernl | s/soom/soon/ |
| 00:07.00 | pastamancer | who loves pcre regexes? :) |
| 00:07.21 | Barbanus | you? |
| 00:07.26 | pastamancer | I've been working on the spam filters at work and came up with http://rafb.net/p/b6csyO83.html |
| 00:08.01 | Industrial | you sir, are mad |
| 00:08.02 | ravagernl | by the way tekkub, will you make an addon to track how much memory addons use using the new api provided in 2.1? |
| 00:08.08 | NightHawkTheSane | who -doesnt- love pcres? |
| 00:08.33 | NeoTron | any sane person? |
| 00:08.58 | Industrial | Tekkub: oh-oh :P |
| 00:09.00 | NightHawkTheSane | clearly, that's not true. |
| 00:09.03 | Barbanus | omg pastamancer |
| 00:09.07 | Barbanus | wtf |
| 00:09.07 | Barbanus | lol |
| 00:09.11 | Tekkub | honestly, I think someone else should :P |
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| 00:09.22 | Tekkub | it sounds like it'll be very simple to do |
| 00:09.29 | ravagernl | expand upon warmup ^^ |
| 00:09.51 | Tekkub | no |
| 00:09.52 | Barbanus | Just make a fubar plugin? :P |
| 00:10.02 | Industrial | :| |
| 00:10.03 | Tekkub | warmup should stay loadtime only |
| 00:10.28 | Funkeh` | tekkub where do you keep your addons now? |
| 00:10.29 | Barbanus | maybe expand on performancefu? |
| 00:10.34 | Tekkub | because that's what it was always meant for, finding what addons were slowing down load |
| 00:10.47 | Tekkub | http://code.google.com/u/Tekkub/ |
| 00:10.49 | Barbanus | seems like that would be the logical place |
| 00:11.09 | PProvost | Has anyone considered whether Detox should be brought forward ala Decursive 2.0? Is anyone using Decursive 2.0? |
| 00:11.32 | ravagernl | hmm, I guess you're right tekkub |
| 00:11.46 | pastamancer | Barbanus: that's the readable version >< |
| 00:12.16 | Barbanus | raid highlighting for debuffs, and clique > any decursive/detox/whatever debuff monitor, IMO |
| 00:12.24 | Barbanus | l2playwackamole |
| 00:12.53 | Barbanus | raid member glows ... alt+mid button ... repeat :) |
| 00:13.08 | NeoTron | what the heck does decursive do today? |
| 00:13.10 | NeoTron | I don't get it |
| 00:13.18 | NeoTron | show a list of ppl that needs decursing? |
| 00:13.22 | NeoTron | if so, why do you want that? |
| 00:13.23 | Barbanus | Gives you a monitor ... showing who is debuffed |
| 00:13.25 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r27296 10nQuestLog/modules/ (Coloring.lua Notifications.lua SmartVisibility.lua): |
| 00:13.25 | CIA-17 | nQuestLog : |
| 00:13.25 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 00:13.27 | Barbanus | cant click on it |
| 00:13.34 | PProvost | Barbanus, I use the same thing. Grid + Clique. I was just asking. Saw the Decursive 2.0 and remember how much I liked Detox pre-2.0 |
| 00:13.34 | Barbanus | and then you have to find them in your raid window |
| 00:13.47 | Barbanus | imo, pointless. |
| 00:13.52 | NeoTron | so that's useless. better use raid window display mods |
| 00:13.58 | NeoTron | like grid or something as simple as perfect raid |
| 00:14.00 | Barbanus | agreed |
| 00:14.12 | Barbanus | I use sRaidFrames, but to each their own :) |
| 00:14.17 | PProvost | NeoTron, Decursive 2.0 uses special unit frames that display/hide based on need and have your decurse/removepoison/etc spells bound to left and right click |
| 00:14.22 | PProvost | It isn't just a monitor anymore |
| 00:14.31 | NeoTron | ok so it's just raid frames then |
| 00:14.39 | NeoTron | much like just using grid + clique |
| 00:14.40 | Barbanus | so you get 2 raid frames then? |
| 00:15.05 | NeoTron | if you're a mage, for example, you don't need normal raid frame sreally |
| 00:15.17 | PProvost | I haven't tried it yet... I was just asking. It isn't a replacement UF though. |
| 00:15.17 | Barbanus | true |
| 00:15.17 | PProvost | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/3011/decursive-2-0/ |
| 00:15.21 | NeoTron | but decurse frames might still be useful so I guess it has a narrow usage pattern |
| 00:15.28 | Barbanus | decursive is on the SVN isnt it? |
| 00:15.37 | PProvost | Detox not Decursive |
| 00:15.44 | PProvost | Detox was the Ace rewrite |
| 00:15.48 | Barbanus | no no... |
| 00:15.52 | Barbanus | decursive is |
| 00:15.52 | Barbanus | http://files.wowace.com/Decursive/Decursive-r27210.zip |
| 00:15.59 | Barbanus | decursive 2.0 is ace |
| 00:16.13 | PProvost | Ahhh |
| 00:16.18 | PProvost | Whaddya know |
| 00:16.18 | PProvost | :D |
| 00:16.38 | PProvost | Decursive 1 was not Ace |
| 00:16.40 | PProvost | Detox wa |
| 00:16.42 | PProvost | was |
| 00:17.18 | Barbanus | whoa |
| 00:17.25 | vhaarr | "ace" |
| 00:17.26 | Barbanus | looks like decursive2 is just grid |
| 00:18.03 | PProvost | Kinda looks like it eh? |
| 00:18.12 | PProvost | I just found it referenced by a friend and decided to ask here |
| 00:18.23 | PProvost | Didn't realize until you pointed it out that it was Ace |
| 00:18.36 | PProvost | As Barbanus pointed out, grid+clique works great for me |
| 00:18.45 | Barbanus | vhaarr, haha what do you mean by "ace"? :P |
| 00:18.53 | Industrial | vhaarr: lets blame it all on rowne |
| 00:18.59 | Barbanus | I shoulda wrote "ACE" |
| 00:19.05 | vhaarr | Decursive 2.0 isn't Ace2, it's like .. |
| 00:19.06 | Barbanus | that would of been great |
| 00:19.09 | vhaarr | some strange beast. |
| 00:19.09 | PProvost | I would rather blame it on Industrial :) |
| 00:19.12 | Barbanus | haha |
| 00:19.16 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:19.29 | PProvost | Hey Indy, did you get gkicked or not? |
| 00:19.42 | Barbanus | vhaarr, so its a bad hack... gotcha |
| 00:19.59 | vhaarr | Barbanus: well given some work it could be fully converted. |
| 00:20.04 | vhaarr | I don't think it uses stuff like AceLocale yet. |
| 00:20.13 | vhaarr | but honestly I've never loaded it, because it's useless. |
| 00:20.15 | Barbanus | ahhh |
| 00:20.27 | ravagernl | I prefer just a macro for dispelling |
| 00:20.36 | vhaarr | click2cast and I'm done. |
| 00:20.49 | ravagernl | http://drdecursive.com/main.htm |
| 00:21.12 | ravagernl | no its pr0nl1nk! |
| 00:21.19 | ravagernl | not pornlink :P |
| 00:21.50 | Barbanus | ravagernl, hmmm, that will get nerfed, im sure.... |
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| 00:22.54 | PProvost | How can they nerf what amounts to "cast, target next"? |
| 00:23.05 | NeoTron | I'm just gladly playing a class that has no decursing requirements |
| 00:23.10 | PProvost | lol |
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| 00:23.34 | cladhaire | decursing is and always was trivial |
| 00:23.47 | cladhaire | the people who bitch need to l2p |
| 00:24.05 | NeoTron | trivial... and boring |
| 00:24.19 | cladhaire | its not supposed to be exciting |
| 00:24.21 | cladhaire | its supposed to take itme |
| 00:24.27 | Industrial | id so macro that |
| 00:24.33 | cladhaire | same as scouring 50 boards for the four boar ears you need. |
| 00:24.52 | cladhaire | s/boards/boars/ |
| 00:25.04 | PProvost | lol |
| 00:25.10 | Pneumatus | <3 purl |
| 00:25.14 | Barbanus | PProvost, I'll leave that up to them to figure out |
| 00:25.15 | Xuerian | Zing. |
| 00:25.31 | cladhaire | WHY does this book require 800x600 screenshots |
| 00:25.38 | Barbanus | but the fact that it allows to automatically decurses the raid, is not intended. |
| 00:26.05 | Xuerian | Oh wait, what's on the nerfing block now? |
| 00:26.25 | Barbanus | Xuerian, http://drdecursive.com/main.htm |
| 00:26.39 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27297 10BigWigs/Outland/: BigWigs: Created Outland Folder |
| 00:27.11 | ravagernl | he got that from me :P |
| 00:27.13 | Barbanus | its a creative workaround, thats for sure. |
| 00:27.29 | Xuerian | It's creative, but why do people have to poke the bear -_- |
| 00:27.46 | NeoTron | If it can be done, it will be done |
| 00:27.58 | Barbanus | Xuerian, yea .. cause its gonna cause them to make more restrictive changes, probably breaking useful things. |
| 00:28.08 | PProvost | It is funny, as a Druid I thought I would be dead without things like Squishy and Detox, but honestly, Grid + Clique and I don't need anything else. |
| 00:28.11 | Xuerian | Oh, I know that. I enjoyed going everywhere I shouldn'tve gone before wallwalking was removed. |
| 00:28.32 | Xuerian | It's the putting it on a dedicated website and screaming it from the rooftops that annoys me :p |
| 00:28.33 | ravagernl | decursing in 2.0 seems like playing game of whackamole |
| 00:28.51 | pastamancer | healin is like playing a game of whackamole |
| 00:28.53 | Barbanus | Xuerian, haha and now they put in flying mounts ... and allow you to go whereever the hell you want :P |
| 00:28.55 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 00:28.57 | cladhaire | wrong argument =) |
| 00:29.01 | Xuerian | Barbanus: I know, screw them :p |
| 00:29.06 | PProvost | Clique + Grid == Whackamole for decursing, healing, remove poison, etc. |
| 00:29.16 | PProvost | I'm getting to be very good at whackamole |
| 00:29.17 | ravagernl | me likes! |
| 00:29.32 | Barbanus | but, from my understanding ... thats what they want it to be like .. its interactive, and doesnt play the game for you. |
| 00:29.33 | NeoTron | warlock = no whackamole = boom |
| 00:29.34 | NeoTron | :) |
| 00:29.40 | PProvost | true |
| 00:29.42 | Xuerian | Healing has and always will be (in wow) a game of whackamole for intensive healers, IMO |
| 00:29.44 | Industrial | well if that macro works |
| 00:29.46 | PProvost | been enjoying my lock lately |
| 00:29.50 | Xuerian | (By healing i mean healing and decursing) |
| 00:29.52 | Industrial | you can still spam it with one keypress |
| 00:29.59 | NeoTron | not that I don't wish now and then I had my priest to pull out |
| 00:30.07 | NeoTron | because I hate dealing with sucky healers |
| 00:30.13 | PProvost | haha |
| 00:30.26 | PProvost | healing well is the real art of the game |
| 00:30.26 | Barbanus | what happpend to your priest? |
| 00:30.27 | NeoTron | in weak moments I've even considered levelling one |
| 00:30.34 | Barbanus | I really enjoy healing. |
| 00:30.38 | PProvost | me too |
| 00:30.41 | Barbanus | I've used a clickcasting mod since before 2.0 |
| 00:30.48 | Barbanus | and been decursing / healing that way for months |
| 00:30.50 | pastamancer | I'mm loving my shadow/holy spec |
| 00:30.51 | Xuerian | Aye, it's fun. |
| 00:30.52 | PProvost | But I respecced my druid back to feral since TBC for levelign |
| 00:30.54 | Barbanus | so its not really much of a change for me. |
| 00:30.59 | ravagernl | By the way you don't even need clickcasting :P |
| 00:31.05 | NeoTron | Barbanus: nicely put, got rid of the account as I decided to leave the game or in the very least (as it turns out) leave the healing part of the game |
| 00:31.17 | ravagernl | see: /cast Cleanse [target=mouseover] |
| 00:31.19 | Barbanus | NeoTron, ahh okay :) |
| 00:31.37 | Barbanus | ravagernl, I've got enough spells on my bar ... I don't really want more macros :) |
| 00:31.53 | PProvost | ravagernl, that is click casting |
| 00:31.56 | NeoTron | warlocks really have a literal shitload of spells and not only that - you want to use a large portion of them |
| 00:32.01 | pastamancer | yeah, I've been using clique since I first found out about it |
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| 00:32.13 | ravagernl | yeah, clickcasting without an addon :P |
| 00:32.17 | PProvost | Clique is the best thing to happen to healing since... |
| 00:32.18 | PProvost | healing |
| 00:32.25 | pastamancer | I'd never go back to wasting all those buttons on heals |
| 00:32.29 | PProvost | no shit |
| 00:32.30 | Myrathi | vampiric embrace, ftw. :p |
| 00:32.35 | ravagernl | hunters have more spells then warlocks I tell you |
| 00:32.48 | vithos | lies |
| 00:32.48 | NeoTron | I wanted to play as a raiding shadow priest, knowing how benefitial they are |
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| 00:32.59 | Myrathi | It's fun :p |
| 00:33.03 | NeoTron | but it was harder to do that than to play as a raiding feral druid (pre-pathc, pre-BC) so I gave up |
| 00:33.15 | Myrathi | True dat. |
| 00:33.41 | Myrathi | Half the fun though. Crap shadowpriest is exponentially worse than a crap holy priest =) |
| 00:34.26 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r27299 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Update locale koKR |
| 00:34.32 | NeoTron | however I have dpsed on c'thun and anub'rekhan and was the first priest in the guild to MC razuvious (shadow spec helped as no priests had been allowed any spell hit gear...) |
| 00:34.51 | NeoTron | main issue with shadow DPS, pre-BC was longevity |
| 00:34.53 | ilifin | ckknight - feature request to carographer; minimap arrows for partymembers |
| 00:34.54 | NeoTron | or rather lack thereof |
| 00:35.03 | NeoTron | second problem being spell scaling |
| 00:35.11 | ckknight | ilifin: isn't that default? |
| 00:35.45 | ilifin | not on minimap, on the cartographer map |
| 00:36.00 | ckknight | wait, what? |
| 00:36.17 | ilifin | arrows that point to partymembers on the worldmap, there is none on my carto :p |
| 00:36.19 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27300 10BigWigs/Outland/Outland.toc: BigWigs: outland toc |
| 00:36.23 | vhaarr | NeoTron: I did shadow dps on thaddius, loatheb, grobbulus, gluth, anub'rekhan, heigan, noth, etc, didn't have any problems. |
| 00:36.28 | ckknight | there's not supposed to be? |
| 00:36.32 | vhaarr | NeoTron: Of course, I used lots of pots. |
| 00:36.40 | ilifin | exactly, thus feature request :/ |
| 00:36.43 | NeoTron | vhaarr: pots and other consumables yes |
| 00:36.48 | ckknight | ilifin: I don't see myself using it |
| 00:37.08 | NeoTron | lack of suitable shadow dps gear was an issue |
| 00:37.19 | NeoTron | lots of sta/shadow damage, very little spell damage/int/mp5 type gear |
| 00:37.35 | vhaarr | yeah, but I managed just fine. |
| 00:37.54 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27301 10BigWigs/Outland/ (Gruul.lua Kazzak.lua Magtheridon.lua Maulgar.lua): |
| 00:37.54 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Outland |
| 00:37.54 | CIA-17 | - .otherMenu = "Outland" |
| 00:37.59 | NeoTron | probably had a guild that allowed you to get dps gear too |
| 00:38.01 | Myrathi | Mmm. BC's "of the Sorcerer/Invoker" items make my priest giggle. |
| 00:38.05 | NeoTron | not just "if no one else wants it you can have it" |
| 00:38.13 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah, I had full AQ40 set and the DPS staff from AQ. |
| 00:38.33 | NeoTron | I had 3/5 AQ40 set. left the guild before they got ouru and c'thun down |
| 00:38.58 | NeoTron | had the pants off KAzzak - nice for a lock, bit lacking for a priest :) |
| 00:39.13 | NeoTron | and the Necro-Knight's garb |
| 00:39.15 | NeoTron | nice for pvp |
| 00:39.28 | vhaarr | heh |
| 00:39.31 | vhaarr | no wonder you went oom |
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| 00:40.16 | NeoTron | as I said, leftovers |
| 00:40.33 | NeoTron | so I kind of had to add in some non-DPS items to be able to keep dpsing |
| 00:40.33 | break19 | uhm, I'm havin trouble updating cart_vendors and trainers, via svn, is this known? if so, how do I fix? :) |
| 00:40.40 | vhaarr | the garbs looked cool though |
| 00:40.45 | NeoTron | which in turn pretty much nurfed my dps |
| 00:40.55 | NeoTron | still I was actually equal with warlocks on anub. :) |
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| 00:41.11 | NeoTron | to be exact one was higher, the other two below |
| 00:41.12 | vhaarr | NeoTron: Shadow priest in PvE isn't about DPS, it's about providing healing support for your group and having the debuff up at all times. |
| 00:41.29 | vhaarr | of course, that didn't mean I didn't reach top 10 sometimes, but that just meant others were slacking a lot |
| 00:41.32 | NeoTron | vhaarr: it's about dps/healing combo |
| 00:41.35 | vhaarr | hunters with autoshot |
| 00:41.50 | vhaarr | rogues afking |
| 00:41.54 | NeoTron | but again that requires the guild to actually set up groups in a way to support it |
| 00:42.00 | vhaarr | ye |
| 00:42.13 | vhaarr | on loatheb it rocks with VE |
| 00:42.19 | vhaarr | and thaddius |
| 00:42.19 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27302 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc bigwigslod.bat bigwigslod.sh): |
| 00:42.19 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: |
| 00:42.19 | CIA-17 | - updated toc file |
| 00:42.20 | CIA-17 | - updated bat file |
| 00:42.20 | CIA-17 | - updated sh file |
| 00:42.21 | NeoTron | in another guild I did BWL as shadow and despite (unnecessarily) being forced to heal at times and despite horribly choosen groups I was high on both healing and dps |
| 00:42.33 | vhaarr | neat |
| 00:43.03 | NeoTron | and people were pissed that I was using my priest at all (druid was my main there) despite not being needed as the druid and not being eligible for loot. heh |
| 00:43.13 | NeoTron | ah well |
| 00:43.49 | ckknight | so I'm supposed to do a simple biography for my Systems Analysis class |
| 00:43.57 | ckknight | I really want to make it like a personals ad |
| 00:44.06 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 00:44.07 | ckknight | SWM seeks SAF |
| 00:44.09 | FryGuy | i took my mage to loatheb when they only had 39 |
| 00:44.22 | FryGuy | i beat a warrior on dps :) |
| 00:44.30 | ckknight | 130#/5'9" here. You: HWP. |
| 00:44.51 | FryGuy | ended with full life too, even though I only had 2900 hp base |
| 00:45.00 | NeoTron | FryGuy: never did loatheb - is that a mage unfriendly fight? |
| 00:45.10 | FryGuy | eh |
| 00:45.13 | NeoTron | or was the mage undergeared? |
| 00:45.24 | FryGuy | my mage was in blues |
| 00:45.27 | FryGuy | guild is in t3 |
| 00:45.32 | NeoTron | just curious why beating a warrior was good. P |
| 00:45.35 | NeoTron | that explains it |
| 00:46.17 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r27303 10AuldLangSyne/ (AuldLangSyne.lua locales/enUS.lua): |
| 00:46.17 | CIA-17 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 00:46.18 | CIA-17 | -Drycoded friend list syncing. (Strongly recommend that you use the backup option on any characters you plan to log in as before enabling this.) |
| 00:46.18 | CIA-17 | -Clean up tooltip handling. |
| 00:46.34 | FryGuy | dps beats the mt beats the healers is how the damage meters go on that fight.. which makes sense |
| 00:46.49 | FryGuy | i was #26 i think, above the 12 healers, 1 mt, and 1 dps :p |
| 00:47.06 | NeoTron | used to have this useless hunter |
| 00:47.12 | Xuerian | PProvost: Is WaU ever going to overwrite svn checkouts? You've got them separated into another category, and checkable separately, but even when you find them separately and checked, it backs out with "Appears to be a Subversion working copy" |
| 00:47.14 | NeoTron | who was always among the tanks in terms of DPS |
| 00:48.26 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27304 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 00:48.26 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: Spell: |
| 00:48.26 | CIA-17 | - deDE changes according to Cerberos, EnSabahNur & Aronus |
| 00:49.29 | vithos | Xuerian: |
| 00:49.49 | vithos | Xuerian: what does an addon directory have in it when it's an svn checkout? |
| 00:50.13 | Xuerian | vithos: Lots of hidden files? :3 |
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| 00:50.39 | Funkeh` | .svn folders? |
| 00:50.42 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 00:50.53 | vithos | well, you can't have a folder named ".svn" |
| 00:51.11 | vithos | so what is it. i want to make an addon look like an svn checkout so wau doesn't update it |
| 00:51.13 | RUBiK | noob q incoming... if i have a noob question re: a new ace addon i hacked together can i paste the code at ace.pastey.net and give link here (someone will spot my mistake and laugh at me immediately, i'm sure)? |
| 00:51.51 | RUBiK | or am i not supposed to post useless code at ace.pastey.net? |
| 00:51.52 | PProvost | Xuerian, it checks for the .svn folder. If you want it to replace it, get rid of that folder. |
| 00:51.57 | Kemayo | You may certainly paste and request feedback. Answers may or may not be forthcoming. |
| 00:52.11 | PProvost | Have you logged that feature request on the sf.net project site? |
| 00:52.12 | RUBiK | nice.. thanks |
| 00:52.29 | Xuerian | PProvost: I know how to get around it, I'm just curious as to why it lists them as checkable or even considers them if they have a .svn folder in them |
| 00:52.31 | vithos | wait, so it's literally ".svn"? I hate windows. won't let me create it |
| 00:52.44 | break19 | RUBiK: I'm a lua noob as well.. so if *I* find the bug first, we are all OBLIGATED to laugh at you :p |
| 00:53.12 | break19 | vithos: use ".svn" WITH the quotes.. in a cmd prompt |
| 00:53.16 | Xuerian | vithos: you can make it from the commandline |
| 00:53.16 | RUBiK | haha.. fair enough |
| 00:53.19 | Idylla | agh, dont suppose theres anyone in here with knowledge about how to turn a unix epoch timestamp back into something understandable using php? :P |
| 00:53.26 | ckknight | post whatever you want at ace.pastey.net |
| 00:53.30 | break19 | vithos: as in, mkdir ".svn" |
| 00:53.32 | ckknight | I've posted English papers there |
| 00:53.39 | vithos | alright, that worked. |
| 00:53.51 | vithos | </3 explorer so much. |
| 00:54.00 | ckknight | Idylla: I'm sure there's a function |
| 00:54.00 | vithos | thanks |
| 00:54.00 | Xuerian | Idylla: date('format', timestamp) |
| 00:54.08 | break19 | <3 Finder so much :) |
| 00:54.19 | Idylla | <3 Xuerian |
| 00:54.21 | Xuerian | break19: <3 launchy so much |
| 00:54.32 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 lunch so much |
| 00:54.47 | break19 | launchy? nevah hoid of it |
| 00:54.49 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27305 10BigWigs/ (10 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Restructure the menu from Other -> Azeroth + Outland. |
| 00:55.18 | RUBiK | ok.. so here's my code... http://ace.pastey.net/6061 -- what i am trying to do is dump guild roster to GuildDump.lua (using ckknight's RollColl-1.0).. works great when i type "/gdump write" but doesn't seem to save without slash command.. |
| 00:55.21 | Xuerian | It's not finder/quicksilver(??) yet, but it's getting there :P launchy.net |
| 00:55.40 | Xuerian | Or is quicksilver keybinds.. |
| 00:55.42 | Pneumatus | omg\ |
| 00:55.43 | Xuerian | <Shrug> |
| 00:56.00 | ckknight | ew, hungarian notation! |
| 00:56.02 | ckknight | icky! |
| 00:56.03 | RUBiK | i mean.. SV\GuildDump.lua is missing 'toons' array unless i specifically type /gdump write |
| 00:56.04 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 quicksilver |
| 00:56.24 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28524 = my hunter weapon! |
| 00:56.29 | ckknight | RUBiK: because you don't have the info on OnEnable |
| 00:56.38 | ckknight | you have it on RollCall10_Update, or so |
| 00:57.10 | RUBiK | hmm.. so my OnEnable() function isn't calling my WriteGuildDump() as it is, eh? |
| 00:57.58 | ckknight | it is, but it's doing nothing |
| 00:58.04 | RUBiK | i just want guild roster dumped once.. doesn't matter on.. can be on login (so i'd use one of the blizz "addons done loading" events)? |
| 00:58.05 | ckknight | since the iterator will return no data |
| 00:58.19 | ckknight | you'd use RollCall10_Update, as I already stated |
| 00:58.21 | RUBiK | s/matter on/matter when/ |
| 00:58.22 | ckknight | look at the wiki |
| 00:58.47 | RUBiK | ahh ok.. i think i couldn't figure out how to use that but will try it again.. (: |
| 00:59.25 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27306 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Add some translations for Azeroth and Outland. |
| 01:00.53 | break19 | Xuerian: looks interesting.. tho I cant use it. :p |
| 01:01.41 | Xuerian | break19: Seeing as you're on a mac... of course :P. You were using finder as a legup on windows, I was using lauchy as a mild retort :P |
| 01:01.53 | break19 | hehe :) |
| 01:02.09 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27307 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Typo. |
| 01:02.28 | break19 | Xuerian: altho.. my "launchy" replacement is Terminal. :) |
| 01:02.52 | Xuerian | break19: Of course. |
| 01:04.43 | break19 | hmm... anyone else having problems updating cart_vendors and _trainers ?? http://ace.pastey.net/6062 |
| 01:05.09 | vhaarr | They have been removed from the SVN. |
| 01:05.16 | vhaarr | So, yeah, everyone will have problems with that. |
| 01:05.33 | Xuerian | Kodewulf had a hernia. |
| 01:06.47 | break19 | hm? |
| 01:08.14 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27308 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (Bars.lua Messages.lua): BigWigs: Plugins: Tweak the bar and message anchor slightly. |
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| 01:13.06 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r27309 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (Bars.lua Messages.lua): BigWigs: Plugins: Make the anchor backdrops a bit transparent. |
| 01:15.05 | Funkeh` | maybe if he was active on irc people would care, maybe |
| 01:16.28 | Pneumatus | Funkeh`: is there any reason why you didnt add a Garotte warning to the Moroes bossmod? |
| 01:16.37 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 01:16.38 | vhaarr | with the way he reacted to that post, I'm certain he'd be scared away pretty fast if he was on IRC. |
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| 01:18.48 | Pneumatus | Funkeh`: i have a string from Transcriptor if you wanted it? |
| 01:19.03 | Funkeh` | no thanks |
| 01:19.22 | Funkeh` | i don't believe it to be usefull in any way |
| 01:19.25 | Pneumatus | not useful for the healers to know who else they need to concentrate on? |
| 01:19.30 | Pneumatus | or the paladin to BoP |
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| 01:19.44 | Funkeh` | as a healer, no, i really couldn't care whos afflicted |
| 01:19.55 | Funkeh` | they can stoneform it or something |
| 01:19.55 | vhaarr | Here's a string from Transcriptor: "Time format". |
| 01:20.10 | Pneumatus | fair enough |
| 01:20.24 | Funkeh` | a big warning on my screen won't really change who i heal, just make me concentrate less on the other messages, which are important |
| 01:21.34 | Pneumatus | i could say the same about the blind message though, i dont think when someone is blinded that i need to do anything in particualr |
| 01:21.42 | Pneumatus | i just know that the 2nd on the aggro list got blinded |
| 01:21.46 | Funkeh` | its important if the MT is blinded |
| 01:23.00 | Pneumatus | ok, i'll give you that one :) |
| 01:23.18 | Idylla | how often is the MT blinded? :o |
| 01:23.42 | Idylla | or are we talking hypothetically? :) |
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| 01:24.46 | tjs | is there any chance with bartender3 that we could get a hotkey to show/hide a bar? |
| 01:25.40 | tjs | that way I could say, have all my form-changing macro buttons on a bar, at 200% scale, right across the middle of my screen, and only have it show when I hold down say, alt |
| 01:25.54 | tjs | like the OSX app switcher almost |
| 01:25.58 | Idylla | that'd be sexy =) |
| 01:26.03 | tjs | :) |
| 01:26.22 | Idylla | at a guess, might have trouble with bars being locked in combat tho |
| 01:26.27 | Idylla | but don't quote me =) |
| 01:26.39 | tjs | they are? |
| 01:26.51 | tjs | hm |
| 01:28.53 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r27310 10Epeen/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Epeen - Friendly Module Complete and Added |
| 01:29.04 | Thrae | I forwarded my cell phone to 1-800-CALL-SEX and called someone, asking them to call me back since I "missed my exit". Good times all around. |
| 01:29.11 | tjs | also, re bartender3, I posted #336 a week ago, hoping for some sort of feedback |
| 01:29.27 | Xuerian | Haha, nice, Thrae |
| 01:32.34 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r27311 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 01:32.34 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 01:32.34 | CIA-17 | - Babble-Zone-2.2.lua |
| 01:32.34 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 01:35.52 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 01:36.05 | vhaarr | wowroster.net wants to replace PvPLog in their package with my DeuceLog |
| 01:36.16 | vhaarr | guess I'll have to fix it up a bit then |
| 01:36.21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:36.25 | kergoth | nice |
| 01:36.59 | ag` | what does wowroster do? |
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| 01:38.30 | Funkeh` | ag any ideas why my self portrait still says im dead after i resurected untill an event happens? buff/heal myself |
| 01:38.50 | Funkeh` | although rare, i might add, it still happens |
| 01:39.32 | ag` | I have seen it too |
| 01:39.48 | ag` | seems like some events like UNIT_HEALTH doesn't fire when you enter an instance |
| 01:40.00 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 01:40.02 | ag` | or actualæy |
| 01:40.09 | ag` | it seems to bug for me when I die in TK |
| 01:40.23 | Funkeh` | thats when it happens to me lol |
| 01:40.24 | ag` | that ressurrects you at the goblin camp |
| 01:40.29 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 01:40.34 | ag` | but I guess it does it without doing UNIT_HEALTH |
| 01:40.41 | Funkeh` | im flying around and it says im dead |
| 01:40.49 | Funkeh` | even after zoning in, until i healed myself |
| 01:40.51 | ag` | it should do some other event I could register for |
| 01:41.16 | Funkeh` | or did i zone? can't remember now :p |
| 01:41.46 | ag` | until you heal yourself, take damage or fortitude buff it will say you're dead |
| 01:41.55 | ag` | ie. until UNIT_HEALTH fires |
| 01:42.18 | Funkeh` | there must be a problem with that graveyard not firing the event after it resses you |
| 01:42.24 | Funkeh` | probably because you zone and your alive |
| 01:42.47 | ag` | yes, it should do some other event I could register for |
| 01:43.14 | ag` | it might be a bug on blizzards side not to fire unit_health |
| 01:43.34 | ag` | when it forces you to res if you die in TK |
| 01:43.37 | Funkeh` | probably |
| 01:46.21 | kergoth | Nargiddley, thanks for the advice earlier, that was it, updating all the pt based rules solved my problem :) |
| 01:46.28 | chutwig | it doesn't even work after healing yourself |
| 01:46.34 | chutwig | still says you're dead until you zon |
| 01:46.35 | chutwig | zone |
| 01:46.38 | Daemona | heh ag` ever thought about an option to show AP and weapon speeds attached to the player frame? ;) |
| 01:46.56 | kergoth | Nargiddley, is it possible to create an 'unfiltered in this bag's sections'? i'd like to see stuff that is visible in other bags, but which is not filtered by any of the rules in -this- bag |
| 01:47.01 | chutwig | also i want to smack whoever decided you can't put motes or gems into mining bags |
| 01:47.25 | ag` | Daemona: make a watchdog tag for it |
| 01:47.45 | Nargiddley | kergoth, not currently. I can look at something like that but not sure how easy it would be |
| 01:47.50 | kergoth | k |
| 01:48.03 | Nargiddley | the other rule is already a special case thats a pain to do :/ |
| 01:48.17 | kergoth | not a huge deal, but i have this blizzard bag to see the physical bag contents, so now i dont know what i missed in the rules in my all in one bag :) |
| 01:49.02 | Nargiddley | i think something like excluding a bag from taking items from the other section would be easier |
| 01:49.13 | Daemona | uuh watchdog? *goes andfires up google* |
| 01:50.56 | Xuerian | Watchdog? ... You mean Warden? o_0 |
| 01:51.06 | ag` | warden? |
| 01:51.10 | Xuerian | Oh. nevermind. |
| 01:51.16 | Xuerian | jumping into a conversation ftw :D |
| 01:51.42 | ag` | O_o |
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| 01:59.54 | WobWork | Has anyone used the svnperms.py precommit script in SVN? |
| 02:00.46 | Funkeh` | anyone remember the address to the sandbox svn? |
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| 02:06.28 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 02:06.32 | cladhaire | i should convert watchdog =( |
| 02:07.23 | Funkeh` | the sandbox is gone now? |
| 02:07.40 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 02:07.49 | Kaelten | I think I forgot to make it on the new server |
| 02:07.50 | Kaelten | one sec |
| 02:07.56 | Tain | I peed in the sandbox. |
| 02:08.01 | Funkeh` | good boy |
| 02:08.05 | Funkeh` | next step, toilet! |
| 02:09.01 | Dsanai | Okay, I give... did Blizz even *give* us a secure tooltip type for minimap node tips? |
| 02:09.31 | Dsanai | I've got ItemRefTooltip, GameTooltip, ShoppingTooltip1, etc. etc. and nothing seems to be tapped when I mouse over a node. |
| 02:10.44 | Kaelten | Funkeh`: http://dev.wowace.com/sandbox/ |
| 02:10.46 | Kaelten | there ya go |
| 02:10.59 | Funkeh` | much love Kaelten <3 |
| 02:11.13 | CIA-17 | 03benumbed * r27312 10Epeen/modules/Combat.lua: Epeen - Added Cooldown back (oops) |
| 02:11.19 | Kaelten | Dsanai: hey, long time no see |
| 02:11.25 | Dsanai | Hi Kael :) |
| 02:11.29 | Dsanai | How have you been? |
| 02:11.40 | Kaelten | busy :) |
| 02:11.46 | Dsanai | heh, I hear you |
| 02:11.53 | Dsanai | I'm only just getting around to trying to update my mods |
| 02:11.59 | Dsanai | And now I run into this secure tooltip snafu |
| 02:12.41 | Kaelten | heh, good luck |
| 02:12.50 | Dsanai | thanks <sour look> |
| 02:12.51 | Kaelten | secure <insert thing here> is annoying |
| 02:12.59 | Dsanai | Yes, I'm not liking it much |
| 02:13.15 | Dsanai | What's funny is, I've gotten everything to work *except* that one bit -- the minimap tips |
| 02:13.26 | Dsanai | And I'm beginning to wonder if they allow it at all anymore |
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| 02:20.12 | Dsanai | hey ck |
| 02:20.31 | ckknight | hey, I'm busy, so don't bother me right now |
| 02:20.37 | Dsanai | :P |
| 02:21.17 | Daemona | damn and again i forgot to make a transcriptor log of heroic mode mechano-lord @ mechanar |
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| 02:31.29 | CIA-17 | 03arjuna * r27313 10simpleMinimap/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:31.29 | CIA-17 | simpleMinimap: |
| 02:31.29 | CIA-17 | - zhCN translations (thanks Li Robert) |
| 02:33.41 | cynyr_ | wtb shattrath lag nerf |
| 02:35.53 | break19 | hey kaelt, still workin on kci2? been usin it ever since I found it.. so far so good. |
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| 02:38.47 | Kaelten | hrm, ya just been wrapped up doin other stuff for the last few weeks |
| 02:38.53 | break19 | i hear ya. |
| 02:39.15 | chutwig | aww server maintenance tomorrow |
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| 02:40.13 | break19 | small visual suggestion.. all the info on the tooltips looks great.. except there's "stacksize XX' might look a little better as "Stackable to XX" |
| 02:42.25 | break19 | no biggie on that tho.. it's a "spit and polish" type thing that comes after a "pound out the rest of the functionality" thing :p |
| 02:42.57 | ckknight | and that's done |
| 02:43.29 | ckknight | had to do Systems Analysis homework |
| 02:43.37 | break19 | I'd offer my help, but my lua experience is extremely limited, as evidenced by my recent fubar addon.. <30lines of code, and it took me 2 hours :p |
| 02:44.06 | ckknight | have to analyze a Pharmaceutical company and give advice on how to become profitable through the demon lord of technology |
| 02:44.10 | cynyr_ | is there a way to force garbage collection to happen? |
| 02:44.22 | ckknight | collectgarbage() |
| 02:44.28 | Myrathi | colle.. what ck said. :p |
| 02:44.36 | cynyr_ | ohh well then |
| 02:44.48 | ckknight | it occurs if you push PerformanceFu |
| 02:45.02 | Myrathi | I'd do a collectgarbage() here.. but I'd lose most of windows and have to reinstall :( |
| 02:45.16 | cynyr_ | don't have that |
| 02:45.18 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:45.26 | ckknight | blasphemy, cynyr |
| 02:45.36 | Myrathi | :o |
| 02:45.56 | cynyr_ | umm whys that? i have enough addons... my poor little 512MB ran can only handle sooo much |
| 02:46.28 | Gngsk | in that case you should only install ckknight's addons, duh |
| 02:46.43 | cynyr_ | ohh |
| 02:46.44 | Gngsk | poned |
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| 02:47.44 | cynyr_ | howabout i perhaps build a new comp, with my tax return? |
| 02:48.05 | chutwig | 512MB? that's a sad computer that has to run WoW in 512MB |
| 02:48.46 | cladhaire | cynyr: /script collectgarbage("setpause", 120) |
| 02:50.59 | cynyr_ | cladhaire: what does setpause and 120 do? |
| 02:51.08 | cladhaire | that sets the pause level to 120 |
| 02:51.13 | cladhaire | which will give you more regular memory usage |
| 02:51.16 | Daemona | tell the garbage collector to run every 120 econds? ^^ |
| 02:51.19 | cladhaire | instead of the steady increase you're seeing now. |
| 02:51.29 | cynyr_ | chutwig: yea.. it worked just fine till BC came out.. |
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| 02:51.39 | chutwig | yeah |
| 02:51.39 | cladhaire | no, specifically it starts the incremental GC at 1.2 times the last baseline memory usage. |
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| 02:51.56 | chutwig | they had to stop using a lot of their Cunning Tricks in BC because of the flying mounts |
| 02:51.59 | cynyr_ | cladhaire: not sure i'm seing an increase.. just that shattrath is fcking laggy |
| 02:52.04 | chutwig | no more hacks with the art and terrain |
| 02:52.11 | cladhaire | regardless, its a good idea |
| 02:52.17 | cladhaire | it'll be set by default in 2.1 |
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| 02:53.00 | cynyr_ | oo |
| 02:53.13 | chutwig | even so |
| 02:53.16 | chutwig | memory is pretty cheap these days |
| 02:53.25 | Tain | Man Heros needs to be like 2 hours every single night of the week |
| 02:53.30 | cynyr_ | 45USD for 512MB |
| 02:53.41 | cladhaire | Tain: zomg dont tell me what happens |
| 02:53.47 | Tain | I won't. But it's good. |
| 02:54.36 | cynyr_ | thats not really cheep... |
| 02:55.25 | cynyr_ | i have to buy ddr, not ddr2 so it's slightly more expensive per gb, so it seems |
| 02:55.57 | chutwig | i guess we have differing ideas on what constitutes cheap |
| 02:56.07 | chutwig | pretend it's 9 whopper value meals or something |
| 02:56.14 | cynyr_ | chutwig: cheep <=20 |
| 02:56.31 | cynyr_ | thats about 3 months of my eating out money... |
| 02:57.17 | cynyr_ | lets put it this way, i'm in collage and have a 6 month old.. $45 is about 3 cans of formula |
| 02:58.06 | cynyr_ | actully closer to 2 of the small ones.. |
| 02:58.48 | cynyr_ | cladhaire: will the game remeber that change? or do i need to do it every time i reloadUI? |
| 02:59.03 | cladhaire | it'd need to go in an addon or macro |
| 02:59.07 | cynyr_ | kk |
| 02:59.10 | cladhaire | you can put it in a macro, and collectgarbage() and then run that |
| 02:59.17 | cladhaire | for maximum fun and excitrement :P |
| 02:59.29 | cynyr_ | lol |
| 03:00.55 | cynyr_ | ahh, how/what is "baseline memory usage"? |
| 03:01.10 | cladhaire | technically, the memory left after you've run a collectgarbage() |
| 03:01.16 | cladhaire | i.e. the baseline minimum for the last full cycle. |
| 03:01.47 | cynyr_ | ahh |
| 03:02.16 | CIA-17 | 03prandur * r27314 10FuBar_InnboundFu/ (FuBar_InnboundFu.toc InnboundFu.lua): |
| 03:02.16 | CIA-17 | FuBar_InnboundFu: |
| 03:02.16 | CIA-17 | - fixed FuBar cooldown display not updating |
| 03:02.16 | CIA-17 | - updated interface version in toc |
| 03:02.25 | cynyr_ | so setting it to 1.2, means that after it gains 20% from baseline it does a Garbage collect? |
| 03:02.51 | cynyr_ | well 120 |
| 03:03.33 | ckknight | I still think that the garbage collector should change its rate based on what you're doing. e.g. flying on a wyvern is the perfect time to ramp up the rate, but fighting a heavy battle is a time to tone it down |
| 03:05.10 | cynyr_ | ckknight: there needs to be some conderation for the hosts total ram amount in there too... so that it doesn't insecently page/swap during a heavy battle |
| 03:05.32 | ckknight | right |
| 03:05.38 | ckknight | I didn't say stop in battle, just tone down |
| 03:06.03 | ckknight | and after a heavy battle (if memory usage went up a lot), then it should ramp up again |
| 03:06.12 | ckknight | after the memory usage is back to a normal level, it should even out |
| 03:06.15 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 03:06.17 | ckknight | just thoughts |
| 03:06.41 | cynyr_ | well my problem is that as soon as i get to shattrath or any other populated place i just watch the harddrive light stay on, because it has to swap textures back in to display them |
| 03:06.48 | cynyr_ | thats what it seems like anyways |
| 03:06.56 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:06.59 | ckknight | that's not a lua issue |
| 03:07.07 | ckknight | that's part of the C code |
| 03:07.20 | cynyr_ | ahh, thought the GC thing did that stuff too... |
| 03:07.25 | ckknight | nope |
| 03:07.30 | cynyr_ | ohh well then... |
| 03:07.34 | Azurewrath | the GC only handles the UI Stuff |
| 03:07.46 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 03:08.01 | Azurewrath | to prevent your problem get more ram and a fast harddrive |
| 03:08.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:08.34 | cynyr_ | Azurewrath: it's a seagate 7200.8, hdpram gets a 50MB/sec read from it.. |
| 03:08.41 | ckknight | well, off to class |
| 03:08.44 | cynyr_ | although i only have 512MB ram |
| 03:08.45 | Azurewrath | and your ram? |
| 03:09.04 | Azurewrath | ugh.. |
| 03:09.11 | Azurewrath | get 2gig and it runs fine |
| 03:10.06 | cynyr_ | see and thats the problem recently the solution is just throw more hardware at it.. not make it more efficent |
| 03:11.36 | chutwig | they're not going to rewrite the entire client in assembly simply for the sake of people with old hardware |
| 03:11.55 | cynyr_ | old != 2-3 years |
| 03:12.27 | cynyr_ | chutwig: i never said asembly.. just not make the thing need to load 1.5 gig worth of data into ram |
| 03:13.01 | chutwig | ...how? |
| 03:13.04 | Tain | What and take away the ability of people to bitch about things on fourms and IRC? |
| 03:13.17 | chutwig | textures take up space, maps take up space, models take up space |
| 03:13.17 | Azurewrath | old in meanings of hardware is 2 years. |
| 03:13.19 | chutwig | 512MB of RAM was not a lot of RAM two years ago |
| 03:13.22 | chutwig | it was a lot of RAM 10 years ago |
| 03:13.31 | Azurewrath | 512mb ram was decent about 5 years ago.. |
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| 03:14.04 | cynyr_ | chutwig: make the model and texture code smaller, or reuse it more, or generate it on the fly |
| 03:14.31 | Tain | onoes the client expands and takes up all my room and eats all my Lucky Charms! |
| 03:14.39 | chutwig | the code? |
| 03:14.44 | chutwig | it's the data that takes up memory, not the code |
| 03:14.48 | cynyr_ | well the data |
| 03:14.50 | chutwig | the code is a very minor part of it |
| 03:15.30 | cynyr_ | chutwig: i'm sorry but i fail to believe that at this point if bilz wanted to they couldn't fit the game in 512MB ram |
| 03:15.58 | chutwig | i'm sure they have some sort of nefarious devil's pact with crucial and kingston to bilk you out of your hard-earned money |
| 03:16.28 | cynyr_ | i'm not saying that either.. |
| 03:16.48 | chutwig | they could, yes, if they wanted to reduce the complexity of models, textures and everything else quite significantly |
| 03:17.11 | cynyr_ | hmm or maybe they could add a slider for that... hmmm |
| 03:17.17 | chutwig | which they don't, because most people's computers now who are playing have more than 512MB of RAM and can adequately support it |
| 03:17.25 | Azurewrath | the point is that you complain that a Game does not run smooth with your 5 year old 512mb ram.. my gfx has more.. |
| 03:18.17 | cynyr_ | no i complain the between per expansion and BC the ram useage went way up... |
| 03:18.30 | cynyr_ | s/per/pre |
| 03:18.34 | cynyr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.12 | cynyr_ | and i complain that the solution bliz used was to just up the min spec of the game as a "fix" |
| 03:19.35 | Nargiddley` | i ugraded from 512 to a gig about a week after i got the game 2 years ago, it helped as much then as i'm sure it does now |
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| 03:20.05 | Tehehe | hey all |
| 03:20.07 | Tain | New games have higher minimum specs than old games. |
| 03:20.09 | cynyr_ | no IF was never as laggy as shattrath, and most of the outlands is almost as bad as IF was |
| 03:20.16 | cynyr_ | Tain: it's not a new game |
| 03:20.22 | Tain | It isn't? |
| 03:20.33 | Tain | You mean I could have bought The Burning Crusade two years ago? |
| 03:20.34 | Tain | Damnit! |
| 03:20.52 | Tehehe | I have a Transcriptor log and I can't figure out what string to use to match what's going on |
| 03:20.54 | cynyr_ | Tain: read the text above "burning crusade" |
| 03:20.54 | Tehehe | the log shows: |
| 03:20.55 | Tehehe | "<64.9> Raid boss emote [%s goes into a nether-fed rage!:Netherspite:::::0:0::0]", -- [1] |
| 03:21.19 | Tain | The base game changed with the patch before TBC. |
| 03:21.20 | Tehehe | and I have my trigger set to: |
| 03:21.23 | Tehehe | phase1_trigger = "[%s goes into a nether-fed rage!", |
| 03:21.39 | Thrae | cynyr_: Burning Crusade offers an updated graphics engine at the cost of performance for older machines. What Tain was trying to say is that it features a new engine, which in the case of this discussion, is the same as a new game. |
| 03:21.45 | cynyr_ | Tain: and with that base patch i saw no differance, then i get to outlands and i lag all to hell |
| 03:21.57 | Tain | So... it is the new game. |
| 03:22.03 | cynyr_ | Thrae: ahh see i never saw anything about a new engine |
| 03:22.29 | cynyr_ | and if Tain and stated thats what he ment then maybe he would still have a point |
| 03:22.36 | cynyr_ | meant |
| 03:22.49 | Tain | I was as clear as I needed to be. |
| 03:22.52 | WobWork | YEAH |
| 03:22.54 | Thrae | Yes, the engine was updated a little for higher quality textures, which will lag the heck out of older machines. |
| 03:22.56 | WobWork | aiee |
| 03:22.56 | Tain | Wait I'll try a different track. |
| 03:23.00 | Tain | "Waaaah! WAAAAAH!" |
| 03:23.00 | WobWork | yeah =P |
| 03:23.07 | cynyr_ | Tain: umm new game != new game engine |
| 03:23.10 | WobWork | I hate the new graphics changes |
| 03:23.25 | WobWork | it makes my laptop close its eyes and cry |
| 03:23.34 | WobWork | and we don't want a sad laptop |
| 03:24.03 | cynyr_ | all i'l say is thati get 40FPS standing still in helfire and i move it drops to 25, then if something new shows up it's down to 5 |
| 03:24.27 | cynyr_ | and my harddrive light stays on for about 5 seconds |
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| 03:24.40 | WobWork | muhaha |
| 03:24.47 | WobWork | I get 5 fps on a good day staring at a wall =P |
| 03:24.52 | WobWork | be happy =P |
| 03:25.23 | cynyr_ | i would be fine with 5-15fps if it stayed there all the time, and never skipped a frame or 20 |
| 03:25.26 | WobWork | okay I tell a lie |
| 03:25.31 | WobWork | I get around 8 |
| 03:26.40 | cynyr_ | hmm wow.exe is using 2700MB ram right now... |
| 03:27.35 | Tain | What is telling you that? If you're using Windows Task Manager than you're not getting accurate information. |
| 03:27.42 | Thrae | cynyr_: The best way to increase FPS in many situations is to decrease spell particle effects and terrain distance. |
| 03:27.45 | cynyr_ | Tain: top |
| 03:28.07 | cynyr_ | Thrae: terrain distance should be all vid card |
| 03:28.24 | Thrae | ...what? |
| 03:28.29 | Tain | 2700MB of RAM. |
| 03:29.27 | cynyr_ | Thrae: the only place that terrain distace should matter is the textures loaded into the video card.. |
| 03:29.32 | cynyr_ | video cards ram |
| 03:30.32 | Thrae | cynyr_: Yes, but with higher quality textures comes more stress for the video card and less textures loaded at a time into the video card's memory. As well, spell particle effects like fire can be seen at distance, and they are intensive to create. |
| 03:30.54 | cynyr_ | Thrae: spell effects are all the way down |
| 03:31.14 | Thrae | Come Outlands, I halved my Terrain Distance and got back my original FPS. |
| 03:31.39 | chutwig | they used a lot of hackarounds in the first game to reduce the amount of graphical data |
| 03:32.08 | chutwig | but in outlands with the flying mounts everything has to be seamless and you can't get away with fudging zones like in stormwind |
| 03:32.22 | DrZoot | anyone heard anything about the supposed graphical update they are doing in the next xpac? |
| 03:32.35 | chutwig | if it's true i hope it makes dwarves look less dumpy |
| 03:32.57 | NightHawkTheSane | World of Warcraft 3.0: Now with dumpier dwarves! |
| 03:33.00 | chutwig | :( |
| 03:33.08 | chutwig | my paladin looks crappy enough already |
| 03:33.41 | DrZoot | dwarves have nothing to cry about, try being undead, I cant even remember what it was like to have elbows |
| 03:34.04 | chutwig | should've been human for diplomacy |
| 03:34.10 | chutwig | stoneform is nice and all against rogues |
| 03:34.17 | chutwig | but fuck, man, +10% rep |
| 03:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, I do enjoy that |
| 03:36.16 | Azurewrath | the diplomacy racial is way overpowered afterall.. at least nowadays with the massive reputation grinds |
| 03:36.27 | chutwig | yeah |
| 03:36.29 | chutwig | world of repcraft |
| 03:36.56 | chutwig | the rep grinds now are easier in general |
| 03:37.05 | chutwig | you get pretty much three times the rep you used to handing anything in |
| 03:37.23 | Azurewrath | yes, they are easier, but there are like 10 gazillion factions to grind now ;) |
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| 03:37.56 | chutwig | eh |
| 03:38.02 | chutwig | lower city, aldor/scryer, sha'tar |
| 03:38.13 | chutwig | cenarion expedition, honor hold |
| 03:38.18 | Azurewrath | Thrallmar, Cenarion, Consortium.. |
| 03:38.29 | chutwig | consortium is kind of superfluous unless they give you a heroic key |
| 03:38.31 | Azurewrath | Violet Eye, Keepers of Time, Scale of the Sands |
| 03:38.41 | NightHawkTheSane | consortium is largely for t he JC recipe |
| 03:38.48 | NightHawkTheSane | thing is, most of those reps are really easy to grind |
| 03:38.49 | Gngsk | can't forget kurenai! |
| 03:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm already revered with HH, CE, Keepers of time, Sha'tar, and lower city |
| 03:39.23 | chutwig | i'm not because i hate rep grinds quite severely and will resist them to the bitter end |
| 03:39.41 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i didn't go out of my way to grind any of those reps :P |
| 03:39.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Just questing/instancing that i would have done regardless |
| 03:39.57 | Gngsk | yea, just run instances, do quests |
| 03:39.57 | chutwig | i'm in the lower half of honored on all the shattrath ones except CE, they're 8250/12000 |
| 03:40.05 | chutwig | i'm pretty bad about instancing |
| 03:40.22 | Gngsk | then you don't really need rep |
| 03:40.27 | Azurewrath | guess i'll do Thrallmar Exalted for the Weapon.. otherwise i have to do one more Shadow Labs run and i have all Heroic Keys |
| 03:40.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Azurewrath: yeah, i'm probably going to try to get HH exalted for the tanking sword. unless i can figure out a better one that's easier |
| 03:41.33 | chutwig | well |
| 03:41.36 | chutwig | i do do instances |
| 03:41.54 | chutwig | i just tend to spend a lot of my time meandering around looking for herbs and mining spots |
| 04:04.49 | shieldb | haha, boooo |
| 04:04.58 | shieldb | just downed big bad wolf, server crashes before we can finish loot |
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| 04:09.20 | WobWork | he obviously huffed and puffed |
| 04:09.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, we're playing with High King Maulgar . . . shit hits haaaaard. |
| 04:14.11 | chuckg | That's a fun fight. |
| 04:14.22 | chuckg | The mage that needs his shield spell stealed needs work though. |
| 04:14.49 | chuckg | Nightbane is ... interesting. |
| 04:20.23 | Daemona | a resisted spellsteal is a nice situation ^^ |
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| 04:22.07 | Mikma | you know what is a nice situation too? that dog poops inside while i'm sleeping and the stink is pretty horrible |
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| 04:22.39 | Amadeo | I still have that damn action bar error :( |
| 04:23.54 | Amadeo | I wonder if it's from BT3 |
| 04:25.49 | Amadeo | anyone else getting addon blocked errors from MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint, etc? |
| 04:26.17 | WobWork | I think I have |
| 04:26.21 | WobWork | I can't recall when though |
| 04:26.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: yeah i get them sometimes |
| 04:26.45 | Amadeo | I'm getting them also, sometimes up to 200+ in BugSack |
| 04:26.49 | Amadeo | right now just one |
| 04:26.55 | Amadeo | not sure what triggers it |
| 04:26.58 | Kemayo | I get it every now and then when I have Auctioneer loaded, for some reason. |
| 04:27.03 | Gngsk | [x] filter addon mistakes |
| 04:27.04 | Gngsk | and forget |
| 04:27.05 | Amadeo | I don't have Auctioneer |
| 04:27.35 | Amadeo | I like solutions rather than rugs :) |
| 04:27.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: that doesn't make the errors stop happening. |
| 04:27.46 | Gngsk | it does in my mind! |
| 04:28.06 | Kemayo | Yeah, I used to get it from other sources too. |
| 04:28.33 | NightHawkTheSane | it shows up as being 'from' different addons in bugsack, im not even sure how to track it down |
| 04:29.11 | Kemayo | Wait for 2.1.0 so we can use the new taint-origin stuff. :D |
| 04:30.40 | NightHawkTheSane | i should actually look and see what the 2.1.0 changes are |
| 04:33.27 | WobWork | Cake! |
| 04:33.29 | WobWork | and tea |
| 04:33.42 | WobWork | or not bowls of soup |
| 04:34.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ... but i like bowls of soup |
| 04:34.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm having one now, actually |
| 04:35.10 | NightHawkTheSane | soup + b5 = win. |
| 04:35.23 | kenlyric|home | which episode. I need soup. |
| 04:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | 109 - Deathwalker |
| 04:36.03 | kenlyric|home | nice. |
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| 04:37.50 | kenlyric|home | I'm not even sure the name of this one. Early season 2, with londo's 3 wives. |
| 04:37.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Indeed, i like this episode. though I'm really just working my way from the first to the last, so :) |
| 04:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 04:38.35 | Nargiddley` | :D b5, watching 2x02 right now heh |
| 04:39.01 | NightHawkTheSane | the early season two ones are good. |
| 04:39.43 | kenlyric|home | bah! they're all good. |
| 04:40.55 | NightHawkTheSane | true. though most of season 5 never appealed to me much. and parts of season 1 were a bit weak, i think. |
| 04:41.26 | Rophy | a german megezine emailed me asking for my permission to add SimpleCombatLog to their megezine DVD, anyone else got the mail too? |
| 04:43.20 | Arrowmaster | hey rophy, when you wrote fubar_speedfu was it just one of those write upload and forget things or did you plan on continuing development? |
| 04:43.54 | Rophy | what else does it need? |
| 04:44.03 | Arrowmaster | i put up a branch |
| 04:44.19 | Arrowmaster | uses tourist for zone size info |
| 04:44.59 | Rophy | let me see... |
| 04:45.17 | Arrowmaster | already had one person ask me when i was going to merge it into trunk |
| 04:46.12 | Arrowmaster | but i know i wasnt ready to do something like that, it could still use a few more tweaks i think |
| 04:47.28 | Rophy | hmm... |
| 04:47.37 | Rophy | what does Tourist do? |
| 04:48.57 | Arrowmaster | lots and lots of info on zones |
| 04:49.41 | Rophy | so... basically you moved zone yard size into Tourist and use it to get the info? |
| 04:49.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 04:50.24 | Arrowmaster | well the zone yard size was already in tourist |
| 04:51.16 | DrZoot | anyone know what module/lib i need to grab so that cartographer will show instance loot tables etc |
| 04:51.54 | Rophy | hmm... using tourist is fine, but I don't think the manual calibration function should be removed. |
| 04:52.19 | Arrowmaster | also now it reports the correct speed if your looking at the continent map instead of a zone map since it used to use the coords and GetRealZoneText() but the coords are based off of what map your looking at not the current zone |
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| 04:54.25 | Arrowmaster | well the values that were in speedfu were a lot different than the zone yard sizes in tourist so i had to change the forumla so i dont know how well it would work if the manual configuation still existed |
| 04:55.58 | Rophy | old SpeedFu baserate = 10.5 / Tourist baserate |
| 04:56.22 | Rophy | just adjust the values to fit tourist baserate scale? |
| 04:57.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah im still not 100% sure on that 10.5 value but it seems to work perfectly but that may be the Round() too helping some |
| 04:58.08 | Rophy | actually the baserate table is tiny, i'm not sure if using another library is an overkill or not. |
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| 04:59.20 | Arrowmaster | i did it so the zone sizes would always be correct, like even now on the trunk version im perty sure some of the new BC zones are wrong |
| 04:59.33 | Rophy | anyway if you can convert old SpeedFu values to Tourist value and keep the manual calibration, then go ahead and merge the changes to trunk. |
| 05:00.16 | Myrathi | Hah! Finally got this shell extension COM crap sussed. |
| 05:01.06 | cynyr_ | WTB native linux wow client, 100000000G |
| 05:01.12 | Myrathi | Heh |
| 05:05.40 | Myrathi | Hm. The joys of attaching to processes just as they detach your DLL. >_< |
| 05:05.48 | Myrathi | Friggin' IE. |
| 05:06.20 | Birdemani[FH] | have you guys seen advance trade skill window? you shift click on the item and it spams a chat channel what it takes to make that itme |
| 05:06.28 | Myrathi | Yup. |
| 05:07.11 | Myrathi | It'll post to whichever channel you've got open, whether it be /# /s /p or /g etc. |
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| 05:17.12 | NightHawkTheSane | "They say god works in mysterious ways." "Maybe so, but he's a con-man compared to the Vorlon." hehe. |
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| 05:26.31 | Myrathi | NHTS: Heh. :P |
| 05:27.10 | Kaelten | just sent out 12 more svn passes |
| 05:27.30 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:27.37 | Kaelten | including your Myrathi |
| 05:27.40 | sdouble | how many svn users are there? |
| 05:27.42 | Kaelten | your's* rather |
| 05:27.48 | sdouble | any idea right off? |
| 05:27.54 | Kaelten | sdouble: um.... a couple of hundred i believe |
| 05:28.24 | Kaelten | there are almost 500 wow2.0 addons on the svn |
| 05:28.25 | Myrathi | Much awesomeness. |
| 05:28.42 | Myrathi | Yeah. I saw it pop up a split second before you said. :D |
| 05:29.17 | Myrathi | Gives me yet more reason to get my fubar plugin finished :p |
| 05:29.28 | Myrathi | ...once I get this ShellEx working =) |
| 05:29.47 | Myrathi | Good news for Win users... umm... doubt it'll be much use to *nix bunnies. |
| 05:30.19 | Myrathi | Unless shell extensions work under wine/whatever. |
| 05:31.35 | haste | Not really good news for me :3 |
| 05:31.48 | haste | I just use a release script anyway |
| 05:32.00 | Myrathi | Not what it does. :p |
| 05:32.26 | haste | I read it wrong first anyway :( |
| 05:32.53 | Myrathi | It's a .BLP ShellEx so that right-clicks give a menu item to convert to PNG (much like dropping them onto BLP2PNG does) and, once I work out this glitch, will actually show the icons in thumbnail view without having to convert at all. |
| 05:33.00 | Kaelten | hrm looks like its more like 380 users |
| 05:33.08 | haste | I have a bash script for that also |
| 05:33.58 | Myrathi | Think I'ma poke the blp2png guy and ask if I can steal his code. :P |
| 05:34.34 | Myrathi | I'm just cheating, at the moment, and hard-codedly piping the clicked file straight into it, like it was dropped. |
| 05:34.41 | Myrathi | Klunky but effective. |
| 05:34.58 | anenigma | haste: If only you could play WoW from a console ... |
| 05:35.16 | haste | Wine doesn't support libcaca :( |
| 05:35.28 | haste | but if it did - you could have donei t |
| 05:35.45 | Myrathi | wweneun, attack goblin until dead, loot goblin corpse, eenes |
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| 05:41.55 | Myrathi | Bah.. sod this. Too damn cold in here. Gonna go to bed for a bit. At least until the heating comes on in a couple of hours. =P |
| 05:42.13 | Myrathi | Sitting on my hands to heat them up isn't getting anything done-- except heating my hands up. =P |
| 05:42.22 | Myrathi | Night peeps. |
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| 05:46.11 | CIA-17 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 05:46.11 | CIA-17 | - Korean Language Parsing fix (Line 1050) |
| 05:46.11 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 05:48.28 | CIA-17 | - More localization |
| 05:48.28 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:58.09 | Gigaknight | How do I get rid of Blizzard's "World Map" minimap icon? I've installed Squeenix and the icon stays in the original position when I move the minimap. |
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| 06:09.58 | Gigaknight | anyone? :L( |
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| 06:23.42 | Gigaknight | How do I get rid of Blizzard's "World Map" minimap icon? I've installed Squeenix and the icon stays in the original position when I move the minimap. |
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| 06:25.16 | neenee | Gigaknight: Not a clue. I use squeenix too and do not have that icon. |
| 06:25.31 | ckknight | squeenix should have an option |
| 06:25.34 | ckknight | Gigaknight: do you use Cartographer? |
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| 06:25.55 | ckknight | if so, make sure the "Show minimap button" option is unchecked |
| 06:26.34 | neenee | squeenix - hide button - minimapworldbutton |
| 06:27.02 | neenee | ^ using the DeuceCommander menu |
| 06:27.18 | Gngsk | oh, so that finally made it in cart proper? |
| 06:27.47 | ckknight | Gngsk: yea, I didn't like it |
| 06:27.54 | Gngsk | yah |
| 06:27.58 | Gigaknight | thanks awesome dudes |
| 06:28.13 | ckknight | lern2keyboard |
| 06:33.14 | ckknight | has anyone tried to take a crack at the Cartographer Instance Notes yet? |
| 06:33.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Speaking of, what happened to those? |
| 06:34.03 | ckknight | basically, the map generation changed, so the notes became out of place |
| 06:34.12 | Gngsk | they look fine to me |
| 06:34.14 | ckknight | I've currently put up a README.txt for an extremely easy way to fix em. |
| 06:34.22 | ckknight | Gngsk: depends on the map |
| 06:34.27 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 06:34.38 | Gngsk | give me an example of one that doesn't work as intended |
| 06:34.46 | ckknight | Wailing Caverns |
| 06:34.57 | Gngsk | heh, yep |
| 06:34.59 | Gngsk | borked |
| 06:35.09 | ckknight | things could be moved around and it'd be fixe |
| 06:35.10 | ckknight | d |
| 06:35.19 | Gngsk | do eeet |
| 06:35.27 | ckknight | I can't, I don't play WoW |
| 06:35.31 | ckknight | I don't know where things go |
| 06:35.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Any plans on getting maps for Gruul's Lair, Old Hillsbrad, Black Morass, etc? |
| 06:36.15 | ckknight | you'd have to ask Funkeh, I outsourced the map stuff to him |
| 06:36.33 | Feldia | you don't play wow, yet you still develop mods for it? |
| 06:36.37 | ckknight | Feldia: yea |
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| 06:36.48 | Feldia | hardcore |
| 06:36.54 | ckknight | you know it |
| 06:37.21 | Feldia | though I guess if that's what you enjoy about the game |
| 06:37.30 | Feldia | about a year ago I "quit" for like 6 weeks |
| 06:37.31 | ckknight | I used to play a lot, then realized I liked coding more |
| 06:37.33 | Gngsk | ckknight, http://wow.gameamp.com/game_map/game_map/91.php!orderBy=17 |
| 06:37.37 | Feldia | but every day I spent like 6 hours reading wow forums |
| 06:37.39 | Feldia | so really I didn't quit |
| 06:37.54 | Feldia | just at the time the game was more about the social aspect for me, I guess |
| 06:37.56 | ckknight | Gngsk: yea, I want someone else to do it :-P |
| 06:38.03 | Garoun|Loupana | I think ck just likes the constant 'but this doesn't work, why' :P |
| 06:38.07 | Gngsk | lol |
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| 06:47.32 | xlvii | can anyone confirm that if you take a level 70 into zul'gurub it'll raise boss levels to 73? |
| 06:48.52 | Garoun|Loupana | they had said no changes were made to the old world instances |
| 06:48.54 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: kind of. |
| 06:49.01 | Gngsk | xlvii, bosses are level ?? for a reason |
| 06:49.37 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: glance/crush and similar mechanics for bosses are considered +3 levels to the character. |
| 06:49.49 | NightHawkTheSane | the damage range for their abilities, however, is a constant based on that bosses power level. |
| 06:52.47 | anenigma | HP is also constant based on bosses power level. |
| 06:55.14 | Gngsk | anyone here use NanoStats? |
| 06:55.42 | PProvost | Hey all |
| 06:55.48 | Gngsk | hey |
| 06:55.52 | PProvost | Trying to track down a rogue add on. |
| 06:56.02 | Gngsk | I'ma rogue! |
| 06:56.06 | PProvost | Puts a button in the middle of the screen. Seems to be a real button. |
| 06:56.13 | PProvost | (Not that kind of rogue) |
| 06:56.15 | Gngsk | for pick pocket? |
| 06:56.20 | Gngsk | lolol |
| 06:56.48 | CIA-17 | 03nayala * r27317 10Baggins_ItemRack/ (. Baggins_ItemRack.lua Baggins_ItemRack.toc license.txt): Baggins_ItemRack: Initial import, adds ItemRack set filtering rules to Baggins. |
| 06:57.18 | Gngsk | /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 06:57.27 | Gngsk | best for finding mods for rogues! |
| 06:59.01 | PProvost | Nice hack. Didn't think of that. |
| 06:59.29 | Gngsk | you can thank ckk for that one, I use it all the time though |
| 06:59.36 | ckknight | :-) |
| 07:00.30 | PProvost | DogChowButton? |
| 07:00.35 | PProvost | WTF? |
| 07:00.37 | Gngsk | lol |
| 07:00.39 | Gngsk | blame ckknight |
| 07:00.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:00.44 | ckknight | that's my mod |
| 07:00.46 | PProvost | What the hell is that? |
| 07:00.52 | Gngsk | hunter addon :p |
| 07:00.54 | ckknight | you put food in it. |
| 07:01.09 | PProvost | Okay |
| 07:01.10 | ckknight | press it if you pet needs some dogchow |
| 07:01.17 | PProvost | How to move the button? |
| 07:01.24 | ckknight | middle-click |
| 07:01.27 | ckknight | yum yum eat em up |
| 07:01.28 | PProvost | MIDDLE? |
| 07:01.32 | Gngsk | haha |
| 07:01.34 | ckknight | lol, yea |
| 07:01.35 | PProvost | Dude |
| 07:01.36 | Gngsk | what, no alt-click? |
| 07:01.41 | PProvost | shift drag please |
| 07:01.47 | ckknight | dude, I made it for money and didn't care. |
| 07:01.54 | Gngsk | heh yeah |
| 07:01.56 | Gngsk | I remember that |
| 07:02.07 | Gngsk | poor sap hunter needed to feed his pet |
| 07:02.08 | ckknight | feel free to add alt-click capabilities. |
| 07:03.13 | PProvost | Does Mac have a 'middle click'?? |
| 07:03.37 | Cartas | Never use Macs where it can be avoided. |
| 07:03.47 | PProvost | BTW, it showed up on my guildie's Mage alt. Probably shouldn't do that. |
| 07:03.49 | Cartas | That's what I've learnt over the years. |
| 07:05.09 | ckknight | I use a mac. |
| 07:05.20 | ckknight | probably not |
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| 07:05.35 | Gngsk | you didn't when you wrote that though, iirc |
| 07:05.55 | ckknight | I did, Gngsk |
| 07:05.59 | ckknight | I use a normal moue |
| 07:06.01 | PProvost | Anywhoo... thanks for the help guys. Good trick that. Didn't know about /print. |
| 07:06.03 | Gngsk | I fail |
| 07:06.03 | ckknight | mouse* |
| 07:08.33 | CIA-17 | 03peragor * r27318 10GridStatusHealer/ (GridStatusHealer.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 07:08.33 | CIA-17 | GridStatusHealer |
| 07:08.33 | CIA-17 | - Added HoT weighting support |
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| 07:11.20 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r27319 10BigWigs/Core.lua: |
| 07:11.20 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: |
| 07:11.20 | CIA-17 | - Added a missing local ("Other") |
| 07:11.46 | Jayman | sRaidframes: When sorting by class, unable to see my class (shaman). This happened once before, long ago, before we had paladins and i fixed it by swaping paladins and shaman in the lua coding. Advice? |
| 07:11.48 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27320 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Coordinates/Coordinates.lua: Cartographer_Coordinates - don't show cursor if outside [0,1]x[0,1] |
| 07:17.28 | Barbanus | hmmm, is there no instance in cart for the caverns of time instances? |
| 07:17.39 | Barbanus | like black morass and old hillsbrad |
| 07:18.07 | ckknight | not yet |
| 07:22.56 | ckknight | where is the exit on The Deadmines? |
| 07:23.13 | ckknight | (using http://wow.gameamp.com/game_map/game_map/95.php!orderBy=17 for reference) |
| 07:25.15 | Cartas | Okay, Ckknight: Just to the right of the 1, over that bridge. |
| 07:26.32 | Gngsk | yah, carto doesn't seem to have the zoom in |
| 07:26.38 | Gngsk | or zoom out |
| 07:27.14 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r27321 10Decursive/Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 07:27.14 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 07:27.15 | CIA-17 | - Fix a LUA error when mouse-overing a MUF: |
| 07:27.15 | CIA-17 | Error occurred in: Global |
| 07:27.15 | CIA-17 | Count: 1 |
| 07:27.15 | CIA-17 | Message: ..\AddOns\Decursive\Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua line 558: |
| 07:27.17 | CIA-17 | attempt to index field 'Debuffs' (a boolean value) |
| 07:27.17 | Gngsk | the whole ship scene |
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| 07:42.54 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r27322 10GridStatusHealer/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 07:42.54 | CIA-17 | GridStatusHealer: |
| 07:42.54 | CIA-17 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 07:44.20 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r27323 10Cartographer_Quests/ (Artwork/RepeatableQuestIcon.blp addon.lua): |
| 07:44.20 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 07:44.20 | CIA-17 | - added repeatable quest icon. |
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| 07:52.23 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27324 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer_InstanceNotes - fix a lot of instances. Some aren't done. SFK should probably be checked. |
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| 07:53.37 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r27325 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer_InstanceMaps - rotate Deadmines and Razorfen Kraul by 270 degrees |
| 07:58.40 | Cartas | Anyone here know how envrionmental variables work? |
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| 08:19.13 | nee|work | ~seen Chosi |
| 08:19.30 | purl | chosi <n=chosirc@p54B4AD45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 15m 34s ago, saying: 'it's vive la france'. |
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| 08:30.45 | nee|work | Hm. |
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| 08:38.48 | jjb_ | good morning |
| 08:38.55 | ckknight | morning |
| 08:39.30 | Elkano | university's DHCP finaly came back :/ |
| 08:40.14 | jjb_ | wb :) |
| 08:40.39 | mitch0 | mornin' |
| 08:40.44 | mitch0 | cladhaire: are you around? |
| 08:41.05 | nee|work | ~seen claidhaire |
| 08:41.15 | purl | nee|work: i haven't seen 'claidhaire' |
| 08:41.15 | Elkano | these are the moments where you are glad to have some deeper knowledge... it's fun to see others wondering why ther notebooks just broke ;) |
| 08:41.22 | nee|work | ~seen cladhaire |
| 08:41.25 | purl | cladhaire is currently on #wowi-lounge (10h 36m 12s) #wowace (10h 36m 12s). Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 5h 40m 9s, last said: 'i.e. the baseline minimum for the last full cycle.'. |
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| 08:42.38 | jjb_ | Elkano: why, you configured a fixed IP? :) |
| 08:43.08 | Elkano | nope, wouldn't work here for some reason... |
| 08:43.22 | Elkano | but at least I know that it's not a problem on my side |
| 08:43.30 | jjb_ | is checking the mac maybe |
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| 08:44.09 | abbat | Morning guys |
| 08:44.23 | jjb_ | where is the uni? |
| 08:44.47 | jjb_ | saarbr?cken? |
| 08:44.51 | Elkano | yepp |
| 08:44.54 | abbat | Can someone help me with Bartender? I need to move bars with command line. But i can't save bar positions |
| 08:45.17 | abbat | I use /script BT3BarX:SetPosition() for this |
| 08:45.45 | abbat | It is possible to save new bar position from command line? |
| 08:46.15 | jjb_ | call the save-function maybe? |
| 08:46.53 | jjb_ | or move an unused bar |
| 08:46.57 | abbat | --- |
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| 08:46.59 | abbat | [2007/02/06 11:47:59-254-x1]: <string>:"BT3Bar1:SavePosition()":1: attempt to call method 'SavePosition' (a nil value) |
| 08:47.00 | abbat | --- |
| 08:47.11 | abbat | Which one? :) |
| 08:47.18 | jjb_ | all in use? :) |
| 08:47.31 | abbat | but |
| 08:47.35 | abbat | function Bartender3.Class.Bar.prototype:SavePosition() |
| 08:48.00 | abbat | i don't know how to call this from command line |
| 08:48.05 | jjb_ | thats what i like on bongos |
| 08:48.17 | jjb_ | this dock-functions |
| 08:48.24 | abbat | yep ;) |
| 08:48.53 | jjb_ | but iam using bartender, because of ace2 :) |
| 08:49.22 | Nargiddley` | abbat, my guess would be its just BT3BarX:SavePosition() |
| 08:49.25 | abbat | i'm because i like bartender with sfx:cyCycled ;) |
| 08:49.53 | abbat | Narg, i try this but have an error ;( |
| 08:50.07 | abbat | [2007/02/06 11:47:59-254-x1]: <string>:"BT3Bar1:SavePosition()":1: attempt to call method 'SavePosition' (a nil value) |
| 08:50.29 | Nargiddley | its a method of the BT3 bar object, not sure what that'll be called tho |
| 08:50.55 | abbat | oh ;( |
| 08:51.17 | abbat | to sad to layot UI with editing .lua and logoff/logon ;( |
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| 08:51.40 | abbat | but maybe this is only one way ;) |
| 08:53.20 | jjb_ | maybe you call the SavePosition when locking the frame |
| 08:53.52 | abbat | yes |
| 08:55.31 | Nargiddley | Bartender3.actionbars[X]:SavePosition() |
| 08:55.35 | Nargiddley | might work |
| 08:56.25 | Adirelle|work | ~seen ckknight |
| 08:56.31 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 33m 24s) #norganna (2h 33m 24s) #wowace (2h 33m 24s). Has said a total of 38 messages. Is idling for 17m 36s, last said: 'morning'. |
| 08:56.50 | jjb_ | would be nice to add something for "Grobmotoriker" in bartender, so you can finetune the positions of the bars |
| 08:57.19 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: got a little refreshing issue with Cart notes refreshing |
| 08:57.45 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: Cart Quests relies on :RefreshMap and handler:GetNoteIcon to display note icon based on quest statuses |
| 08:58.09 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: most of the time status updates occur when the map is hidden |
| 08:58.44 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: and here the issue : when I open the map just after an status update, the icon aren't up to date, tho I call RefreshMap |
| 08:58.54 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: I have to reopen the map to update them |
| 08:59.14 | ckknight | odd |
| 08:59.16 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: so my question is : is RefreshMap requests dropped when Cart is hidden ? |
| 08:59.24 | ckknight | quite possible |
| 08:59.38 | Adirelle|work | that would make senses to avoid wasting CPU cycles |
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| 09:02.28 | ckknight | precious cycles... |
| 09:03.01 | Adirelle|work | :RefreshMap schedule a call to local refresg |
| 09:03.08 | Adirelle|work | s/g/h/ |
| 09:03.38 | Adirelle|work | but I think "value", that will force update, is overriding by the last call |
| 09:03.44 | Adirelle|work | http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua?order=name#L2896 |
| 09:04.08 | Adirelle|work | so if RefreshMap(true) then RefreshMap(false) is called, it actually does only RefreshMap(false) |
| 09:04.21 | ckknight | ah, true. |
| 09:04.23 | Fin | titties |
| 09:04.25 | Fin | good morning |
| 09:04.29 | Adirelle|work | that's first point |
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| 09:05.09 | Adirelle|work | then, I wonder if the scheduleded event can not be ignored or cancelled when the map is hidden |
| 09:05.22 | CIA-17 | 03rophy * r27327 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.toc core.lua license.txt): |
| 09:05.22 | CIA-17 | SimpleCombatLog: |
| 09:05.22 | CIA-17 | - Added license.txt |
| 09:05.22 | CIA-17 | - Changed version numbering. |
| 09:05.39 | mitch0 | is the MoneyToggle fiddling still necessary when playing around with the tooltip? what does it actually prevent? (something to do with ClearMoney, but I really don't get what's the big fuss about that) |
| 09:05.41 | abbat | Nargiddley, works fine, thank you |
| 09:05.42 | Adirelle|work | s/can not/ed can not/ was/ |
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| 09:05.51 | Adirelle|work | erf |
| 09:05.54 | Adirelle|work | forget his purl :D |
| 09:06.34 | Fin | why when I said good morning did you say "Devour-!"? |
| 09:06.44 | Fin | oops, wrong channel |
| 09:16.13 | mitch0 | anyone awake who can help me with GameTooltip stuff? |
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| 09:22.00 | Adirelle|work | any obvious mistake ? http://ace.pastey.net/6084 |
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| 09:23.17 | Dhraga | Morning all |
| 09:23.20 | mitch0 | Adirelle|work: <offtopic>what editor do you use for LUA?</> |
| 09:23.40 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: ultraedit32 |
| 09:23.50 | stavmar | does simplecombatlog affect the combat log that blizzard keeps when you turn it on? |
| 09:24.16 | mitch0 | does it have a special LUA mode? I mean, can it find function declarations and the like? |
| 09:24.30 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: yes, you can find a syntax files |
| 09:24.48 | Cyrez | I'm not much of a coder but I use Notepad++ when I need to hack something. |
| 09:24.50 | ZealotOnAStick | There's syntax coloring files you can find on the web site for it, that you can add in. |
| 09:25.20 | Adirelle|work | But I just noticed that damn thing insists in deleting trailing whitespaces, leading to lots of meaningless changes |
| 09:25.33 | Dhraga | Kemayo, are you here atm? |
| 09:25.41 | mitch0 | but can it the jump to the declaration? (like, you're on a call to self:whatever() and right-click->go-to-definition, or somesuch |
| 09:25.46 | Adirelle|work | btw ue32 is a shareware with trial |
| 09:25.58 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: no |
| 09:26.04 | mitch0 | hrmp |
| 09:26.10 | Adirelle|work | just have the file outline |
| 09:26.12 | mitch0 | not much better then eclipse then |
| 09:26.17 | Adirelle|work | not |
| 09:26.32 | Adirelle|work | eclipse have a lua plugin, but unfortunately, it is for lua 5.0 |
| 09:27.58 | Adirelle|work | ah, found that annoying option |
| 09:28.18 | Dhraga | ~seen Kemayo |
| 09:28.38 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 1h 44m 46s) #wowace (2d 1h 44m 46s). Has said a total of 52 messages. Is idling for 4h 59m 27s, last said: 'Wait for 2.1.0 so we can use the new taint-origin stuff. :D'. |
| 09:28.38 | Fin | SciTE & vim |
| 09:29.00 | mitch0 | vim is nice |
| 09:29.53 | Fin | I've started to use it under windows a lot more now, too |
| 09:30.18 | Fin | SciTE has great Lua integration though |
| 09:30.47 | nee|work | I use Notepad++ |
| 09:33.22 | evl | scite has nice lua syntax |
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| 09:34.40 | Adirelle|work | does scite handle multifile completion (like eclipse do with java or php) ? |
| 09:35.02 | Fin | what do you mean by "completion"? |
| 09:35.55 | Adirelle|work | er... that's not the good word |
| 09:36.05 | ckknight | ding, 30 |
| 09:36.09 | Gngsk | grots |
| 09:36.15 | Adirelle|work | grots :) |
| 09:36.19 | mitch0 | probably he means that the auto-completer picks up tokens from "included" files as well |
| 09:36.27 | Adirelle|work | I meant maintainning an "database" of all functions accross files |
| 09:36.35 | Adirelle|work | yes |
| 09:36.48 | Fin | ah, well, not the version I'm using... |
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| 09:41.32 | Dhraga | Anyone using the CharacterInfo + CharacterInfoStorage ? |
| 09:42.51 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r27328 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Notes: properly handle RefreshMap when map is hidden (DRYCODE). |
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| 09:45.21 | abbat | oh |
| 09:45.38 | abbat | bt3 + cycircled + sfx:circled r0x |
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| 09:46.05 | mitch0 | does unpack(arg) work in blizz lua? should I even bother with it? (regarding OnEvent() dispatch) |
| 09:47.05 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: it should, but it's somewhat tricky to use |
| 09:47.21 | mitch0 | hm? what's tricky about it? |
| 09:47.37 | Adirelle|work | but but, do you mean "arg" for variable argument list or any table ? |
| 09:47.49 | mitch0 | vararg list |
| 09:48.00 | Adirelle|work | ah, vararg notation changed in lua 5.1 |
| 09:48.10 | Adirelle|work | it is now denoted by the ... variable... |
| 09:48.15 | Adirelle|work | "..." |
| 09:48.17 | mitch0 | like function OnEvent(event) dispatch(event, unpack(arg)) end |
| 09:48.37 | Adirelle|work | => function OnEvent(event, ...) dispatch(event, ...) end |
| 09:48.51 | mitch0 | ah, so I don't need to unpack() and stuff |
| 09:49.03 | Adirelle|work | not with "..." |
| 09:49.21 | Adirelle|work | only with regular table (an even..., not in function calls) |
| 09:49.22 | mitch0 | but I also noticed that even though my OnEvent() didn't have ... in its declaration, it still got arg1, arg2, etc when called |
| 09:49.49 | Adirelle|work | that's Blizzard specific |
| 09:49.53 | Nargiddley | thats a blizzard thing |
| 09:50.07 | mitch0 | so, I don't have to declare ... and still can use ...? |
| 09:50.07 | Adirelle|work | only works with event, argN are globals |
| 09:50.14 | mitch0 | ah |
| 09:50.22 | Nargiddley | globals that are set, the funciton is properly passed parameters now and its better to use those |
| 09:50.24 | mitch0 | then I don't need to dispatch them at all, nice :) |
| 09:50.29 | Adirelle|work | I wouldn't rely on such things |
| 09:51.08 | mitch0 | I was just interested for this because of the OnEvent dispatch, so it's OK in that case, I guess :) |
| 09:51.08 | Adirelle|work | I'd better add "..." and propagate it than relying on Blizzard's automagical, global args... |
| 09:51.18 | mitch0 | but the original OnEvent() doesn't have it, or does it? |
| 09:51.37 | Adirelle|work | which "original OnEvent" ? |
| 09:51.50 | mitch0 | well, the one Blizz calls... |
| 09:52.13 | Adirelle|work | Blizz call OnEvent script of frames that registered with the raised event |
| 09:52.30 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27329 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: properly solve the 'Other' problem instead of Archodim's solution of adding it back, commit some 'Other' genocide |
| 09:52.30 | mitch0 | I mean, if they don't expect an (event, ...) signature, then it's not much point providing one, right? |
| 09:52.53 | [Ammo] | I hate random people comitting half-arsed solutions to bigwigs |
| 09:52.54 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 09:53.06 | [Ammo] | wtb [Bigass Cattle-Prod] |
| 09:53.12 | Adirelle|work | signatures don't have really sense in lua |
| 09:53.52 | mitch0 | well, yeah, I know, but if blizz examples lack ... in OnEvent, that could indicate that their code will not call OnEvent() with variadic args, no? |
| 09:53.56 | Adirelle|work | btw, why not using AceEvent for event handling ? |
| 09:54.13 | mitch0 | 'cos I'm not using Ace at the moment :) |
| 09:54.17 | Adirelle|work | :) |
| 09:54.21 | Adirelle|work | you should :D |
| 09:54.28 | mitch0 | nah, too big for me :) |
| 09:54.42 | mitch0 | but I use it to get inspiration for some stuff |
| 09:54.49 | mitch0 | OOP is one such thing |
| 09:55.01 | mitch0 | (although it's pretty painful in LUA :) |
| 09:55.11 | Nargiddley | mitch0, you dont *need* to declare it like that. but it saves a global lookup when you use the parameters |
| 09:55.12 | [Ammo] | that's where Ace comes in ::p |
| 09:55.22 | krka | nah, OOP is not really painful in lua |
| 09:55.26 | Dhraga | Have anything happend with a lib recently ? My quest tracker (from FuBar-QuestsFu) is now on top of my bags instead of under them... the tracker is also above cartographer =/ |
| 09:55.26 | [Ammo] | it has a nice AceOO framework :) |
| 09:56.02 | Adirelle|work | well, Ace OO is well designed, but you're not requested to put objects every where |
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| 09:56.30 | mitch0 | Nargiddley: but are you sure blizz actually calls OnEvent with variadic args? or just calls with one event arg and filling out the globals |
| 09:56.54 | Nargiddley | it calls the function you give with all the parameters, and sets the globals |
| 09:57.11 | Nargiddley | globals are an old way and there mostly for compatibility now |
| 09:57.28 | mitch0 | ok, I'll do the variadic dispatch then |
| 09:57.41 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: you should understand that signatures are meaning less, lua will fit passed argument into declared ones |
| 09:57.43 | Nargiddley | are you doing this in xml or lua ? |
| 09:57.57 | mitch0 | Adirelle|work: I understand that |
| 09:58.04 | mitch0 | Nargiddley: lua |
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| 09:58.27 | Adirelle|work | doing SetScript('OnEvent', MyOwnEventFunc) ? |
| 09:58.30 | Nargiddley | k, then doesnt matter if you declare is with arg1 arg2 etc or ... to get all |
| 09:58.41 | mitch0 | Adirelle|work: I just didn't know that blizz actually provided those extra args when calling my OnEvent, or just thru globals |
| 09:59.09 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: it does both actually (in old time, it used only globals) |
| 09:59.15 | mitch0 | no, the OnEvent is in LUA, the "linking" is in .xml |
| 09:59.27 | mitch0 | Adirelle|work: I get that now, too :) |
| 09:59.49 | Dhraga | Ignore me.... new function in the FuBar-QuestsFu tracker.... /selfbonk |
| 09:59.52 | Nargiddley | that linking will have an implicit declaration using thier variable names |
| 10:00.00 | mitch0 | like <OnEvent>SpellCaster:OnEvent(event)</OnEvent> |
| 10:00.52 | mitch0 | or should it be <OnEvent>SpellCaster:OnEvent(event, ...)</OnEvent> or it dosn't matter at all? (could be just OnEvent() there? |
| 10:00.56 | Nargiddley | you'd have to call it like SpellCaster:OnEvent(event,arg1,arg2,arg3) from there i think, i generally dont go near xml |
| 10:02.22 | mitch0 | would it be better to register all handlers from OnLoad() ? |
| 10:02.26 | mitch0 | using setScript? |
| 10:02.43 | mitch0 | (I guess I need to specify at least OnLoad from xml) |
| 10:03.33 | Nargiddley | i do everything from lua, AceAddon calls OnInitialize and OnEnable for me to do OnLoad stuff |
| 10:03.44 | nee|work | hm.. 70MB windows registry |
| 10:04.21 | mitch0 | oh well :) maybe sometime in the future I'll convert to ace, till then I use <OnLoad/> :)P |
| 10:06.03 | mitch0 | btw, where can I find some docs about frameStrata? does it have any impact on how often OnUpdate() is called, or I'm completely off the track here? |
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| 10:06.19 | Nargiddley | OnUpdate is called once per frame |
| 10:06.32 | Nargiddley | strata is z-order for rendering |
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| 10:06.40 | mitch0 | ah |
| 10:06.53 | mitch0 | so I was completeley in the woods :) |
| 10:07.23 | mitch0 | (I know, I can register periodic callback with LUA for whatever interwalls :) |
| 10:07.32 | mitch0 | s/LUA/ace/ |
| 10:07.44 | mitch0 | purl: stfu |
| 10:07.50 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, stfu is Shut the F*** Up!, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg. Sucks To Feel U, or or http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/STFU_cup_Soldier.jpg |
| 10:07.50 | mitch0 | :) |
| 10:08.12 | mitch0 | stupid bot |
| 10:08.53 | Gngsk | 2nd link is busted |
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| 10:09.51 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 10:09.58 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 purl |
| 10:10.18 | nee|work | This link works: http://tinyurl.com/2xjjlb |
| 10:11.49 | NightHawkTheSane | random question time! Anyone know of a mod that will put a simple health/mana bar for yourself and your target up, but only while in combat? (a la PCUF's "combat display" module, but as a separate addon) |
| 10:12.47 | nee|work | Does anyone know how long the Mana Tombs instance would take to traverse? |
| 10:12.58 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on the group |
| 10:13.32 | NightHawkTheSane | but on average, it's not a very long instance, maybe hour and a half or less? |
| 10:13.38 | nee|work | oki |
| 10:13.40 | nee|work | Thanks :) |
| 10:15.01 | mitch0 | is there an event fired when a new the player's talents change? |
| 10:15.51 | NightHawkTheSane | mitch0: might search wowwiki, failing that you could always buck up and test it with a respec :P |
| 10:16.02 | mitch0 | sure :) |
| 10:16.34 | mitch0 | I'll just put it in readme that you should /init if you pick up talents changing your spell ranges :) |
| 10:17.06 | pastamancer | mitch0: LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB |
| 10:18.22 | Nargiddley | mitch0: CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED with arg of -1 = talent point spent |
| 10:18.40 | pastamancer | mitch0: see http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Grid/GridRange.lua for details |
| 10:19.09 | pastamancer | Nargiddley: ooh, forgot about that one |
| 10:19.19 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r27330 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 10:19.19 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:19.19 | CIA-17 | - deDE Update |
| 10:19.25 | Nargiddley | <3 wowwiki + find in page :D |
| 10:20.15 | pastamancer | any idea if LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB fires when "forgetting" a spell via respec? |
| 10:20.37 | Nargiddley | dunno |
| 10:21.01 | pastamancer | I've been going with the assumption that it does |
| 10:21.37 | pastamancer | not that adding a scan on CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED would be too onerous |
| 10:23.12 | NightHawkTheSane | probably not. how often does that fire, anyway? :P |
| 10:24.04 | pastamancer | presumab;y only when talent points are modified |
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| 10:25.43 | NightHawkTheSane | well, my point being, how often are talent points actually updated. people dont tend to respec often, and usually not in performance critical situations anyway |
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| 10:27.31 | pastamancer | right, but if LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB is fires when spells are lost, in additionb to being gained, then the CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED update is superfluous |
| 10:28.19 | mitch0 | so? it happens like in every half an hour max :) |
| 10:28.33 | mitch0 | unless you do seti@home on the event, it should be that big of an issue |
| 10:28.43 | pastamancer | because being right is important |
| 10:29.11 | mitch0 | yeah, whatever, in this case it'll just make code bloat for no real-world benefits imo |
| 10:29.35 | mitch0 | if you really want to be nice , just put there a comment |
| 10:29.37 | mitch0 | :) |
| 10:32.22 | nee|work | Chosi, where aaare you |
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| 10:37.09 | Nargiddley | LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB doesnt fire unless the talent is a new skill |
| 10:37.35 | Nargiddley | doesnt fire when unlearning something either |
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| 10:46.28 | pastamancer | Nargiddley: thanks |
| 10:47.53 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r27331 10Grid/GridRange.lua: Grid: rescan spell ranges on CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED. |
| 10:49.28 | Nargiddley | is there any good way to get the path of the .lua you're in ? |
| 10:50.43 | mitch0 | generate an error and capture the error message somehow? |
| 10:50.56 | nee|work | Is there rich thorium in Outland? |
| 10:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, some |
| 10:51.13 | Adirelle|work | Nargiddley: looks at acelibrary or AceAddon, there some things about this |
| 10:51.17 | Nargiddley | i can get the debug stack without generating an error, the path started with ..\\AddOns\\ tho |
| 10:51.39 | nee|work | ok. |
| 10:51.40 | Nargiddley | wondering how reliable the path given there will be, or will it get truncated |
| 10:55.17 | [Ammo] | Nargiddley: there is no reliable way |
| 10:55.37 | [Ammo] | I found that out the hard way with the default texture addition into candybar |
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| 10:56.31 | [Ammo] | I assume you want to add some kind of texture stuff to Waterfall |
| 10:56.36 | Nargiddley | yep |
| 10:56.42 | [Ammo] | if waterfall is embedded too deeply then the debugstack will be br0ken |
| 10:56.47 | [Ammo] | and you will not reliably get the path |
| 10:57.16 | Nargiddley | thought so :/ |
| 10:57.27 | [Ammo] | so you'll have to make due with the blizzard textures |
| 10:58.17 | [Ammo] | or have the user provide the path when using the lib, but that's cumbersome |
| 11:01.29 | Nargiddley | guess i'll have to start working on making it look better without custom textures :/ |
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| 11:10.23 | CIA-17 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r27332 10WitchHunt/: WitchHunt: creating branch for some reworking |
| 11:10.48 | CIA-17 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r27333 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt/: WitchHunt: branching. |
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| 11:15.36 | xyu | Anyone know if there's an addon out like "PvPLocation" ? |
| 11:16.01 | xyu | tells you the zone of the subzone the attack is happening at |
| 11:16.14 | xyu | in world def etc. |
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| 11:25.28 | nee|work | There were various addons that did that long ago |
| 11:25.36 | nee|work | something like WorldDefender or such |
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| 11:42.48 | CIA-17 | 03benjib007 * r27334 10Meeuuuh/ (. Core.lua Meeuuuh.toc changelog-1.3.txt): |
| 11:42.48 | CIA-17 | Meeuuuh: initial commit |
| 11:42.48 | CIA-17 | - <Yell Meeuuuh when zoning. Only for BiZon Team guild> |
| 11:42.52 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. can an aguf layout have multiple player frames? or for that matter any other frame? |
| 11:45.08 | Health | I've seen a CandyBar DoT duration addon.. what's it called? |
| 11:45.20 | Gngsk | Chronometer? |
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| 11:46.12 | Health | No idea :) |
| 11:46.28 | Health | Seems like it could be it. Thanks |
| 11:48.19 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r27335 10GrindStatus/modules/OutlandNeutral.lua: |
| 11:48.19 | CIA-17 | GrindStatus: |
| 11:48.19 | CIA-17 | - Added Coilfang Armaments to Cenarion Expedition. |
| 11:48.50 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r27336 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Added Jewlecrafting. Commented out the active skills (Disenchant, Pick Lock and Prostect) since they are not allowed in scripts. |
| 11:52.09 | mitch0 | I should install a lua interpreter to play around with @work :) |
| 11:52.33 | CIA-17 | 03pneumatus * r27337 10ClassLoot/: |
| 11:52.33 | CIA-17 | ClassLoot: initial commit |
| 11:52.33 | CIA-17 | - Class star ratings for raid loot based on Kaliban's Loot List |
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| 11:59.56 | Uhuru | Hi |
| 12:02.02 | CIA-17 | 03pneumatus * r27338 10ClassLoot/ (6 files): |
| 12:02.02 | CIA-17 | ClassLoot: |
| 12:02.02 | CIA-17 | - Files & Externals |
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| 12:02.16 | Uhuru | Actually wow automatically target a mob if he strike me, is there a way to target him when i get aggro ? without him striking me |
| 12:02.46 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r27339 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc ReadMe.txt): |
| 12:02.46 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 12:02.46 | CIA-17 | -Added molten armor |
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| 12:09.08 | CIA-17 | 03benjib007 * r27340 10Meeuuuh/: Meeuuuh: Updated externals |
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| 12:23.24 | CIA-17 | 03benjib007 * r27341 10Meeuuuh/Meeuuuh.toc: Meeuuuh: Description changed |
| 12:43.54 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r27342 10Babble-2.2/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Babble-2.2: esES updated in Fish, Herbs, Ore, Spell, Zone |
| 12:45.17 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r27343 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3 / Bartender3_BarStates: esES translated |
| 12:45.44 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r27344 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: Cartographer_Quests: esES updated |
| 12:46.15 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r27345 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: esES updated |
| 12:46.51 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r27346 10SimpleCombatLog/localization-esES.lua: SimpleCombatLog: esES updated |
| 12:50.43 | [Wobin] | Meeuuuh? |
| 12:51.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Braaaaaains? |
| 12:51.34 | [Wobin] | <CIA-17> benjib007 * r27340 Meeuuuh/: Meeuuuh: Updated externals |
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| 12:54.18 | Mikma | <1342> <CIA-17> Meeuuuh: initial commit |
| 12:54.18 | Mikma | <1342> <CIA-17> - <Yell Meeuuuh when zoning. Only for BiZon Team guild> |
| 12:54.39 | [Ammo] | kinda useless :p |
| 12:54.43 | Mikma | is that really necessary to be in svn? |
| 12:54.47 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r27347 10nQuestLog/core.lua: |
| 12:54.47 | CIA-17 | nQuestLog : |
| 12:54.47 | CIA-17 | - More Localization |
| 12:54.47 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 12:54.53 | NightHawkTheSane | is that really necessary? |
| 12:55.45 | haste | It's cool, because it uses Ace! :3 |
| 12:55.57 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 12:56.12 | Pneumatus | but im sure you could do it in about 3 lines of code without ace |
| 12:56.15 | haste | I just had too, it's an excellent example of HOW you shouldn't |
| 12:57.05 | [Ammo] | you don't want to check the code |
| 12:57.09 | [Ammo] | it's a pile of horse dung |
| 12:57.22 | Pneumatus | id appreciate comments on ClassLoot btw :) |
| 12:57.29 | Pneumatus | my first aced addon |
| 12:57.46 | Pneumatus | theres still a little bit of code refactoring i need to do which i know of |
| 12:58.07 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Meeuuuh/changelog-1.3.txt |
| 12:58.10 | Mikma | yay! |
| 12:58.16 | Mikma | changelog in ... french? |
| 12:59.12 | Pneumatus | o.O |
| 12:59.13 | Pneumatus | if GetGuildInfo("player") == "BiZon Team" |
| 12:59.24 | Pneumatus | it wont actually do ANYTHING for the general population |
| 12:59.54 | [Ammo] | he could also use scheduleevent instead of silly metro schedules |
| 13:00.00 | [Ammo] | and other 'optimizations' |
| 13:00.46 | haste | at least he uses locals, unlike skinner |
| 13:01.01 | Health | emo! |
| 13:01.11 | Health | I like haste! |
| 13:01.15 | Mikma | that's neat, start using svn to store personal addons |
| 13:01.28 | haste | why not just use gcode :p ? |
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| 13:01.54 | Pneumatus | all my unreleased addons are hidden away on gcode :) |
| 13:02.03 | NightHawkTheSane | because gcode isn't cool! ace svn is cool! you can use wau and not think! |
| 13:02.15 | Pneumatus | half of which got broken in 2.0 and i couldnt be arsed to fix |
| 13:02.27 | Mikma | would i be super-evul if i would delete that addon off? |
| 13:02.35 | haste | NightHawkTheSane: oh joy |
| 13:03.25 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 13:04.28 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r27348 10DrDamage/BuffScanning.lua: |
| 13:04.28 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 13:04.28 | CIA-17 | -Molten Armor fix. |
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| 13:09.11 | Uhuru | Is there a way to target automatically a mob when i aggro him before the first strike ? |
| 13:09.24 | vhaarr | no |
| 13:09.31 | Uhuru | :'( |
| 13:11.32 | Industrial | press tab |
| 13:11.33 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:13.13 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:13.25 | vhaarr | ~seen nymbia |
| 13:13.50 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@168-103-200-247.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 11h 13m 44s ago, saying: 'burnvictim: got a screenshot?'. |
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| 13:15.55 | Uhuru | Industrial more than 1 second lost for pressing tab ;P |
| 13:16.42 | Pneumatus | is there a simple way to check if i am in a guild, code-wise |
| 13:17.23 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: lern2typeaheadfind@wowwikiAPIlist. |
| 13:17.27 | vhaarr | for gods sake |
| 13:17.44 | vhaarr | IsInGuild() - Lets you know whether you are in a guild. |
| 13:17.52 | Pneumatus | er, i tried there but i couldnt find anything appropriate |
| 13:17.54 | Pneumatus | thanks |
| 13:18.10 | vhaarr | "guild" would've found it |
| 13:18.43 | [Ammo] | www.fuckinggoogleit.com |
| 13:18.55 | vhaarr | ~jfgi |
| 13:19.01 | purl | methinks jfgi is Just ^%#@ing Google it. |
| 13:19.16 | vhaarr | ~botsnack |
| 13:19.16 | purl | thanks, vhaarr |
| 13:19.45 | evl | Any damagemeter addon that works? |
| 13:19.51 | evl | what's the "best" one, still SWStats? |
| 13:20.33 | mitch0 | what's wrong with DamageMeters? |
| 13:21.32 | evl | dunno, just what's the least resource hogging :) |
| 13:21.35 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r27349 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Added recursive enable base case |
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| 13:24.55 | sylvanaar | they are all resource pigs, just accept it |
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| 13:25.56 | JoshBorke | you can't have data aggregation without resources |
| 13:26.27 | JoshBorke | it's a trade-off. you can't have your cake and eat it too |
| 13:26.31 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: I started working on a Cart Notes handler API, could anyone take a look ? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer/Notes_Overrides |
| 13:27.35 | JoshBorke | Mikma: you here? |
| 13:27.43 | Industrial | Uhuru: not like you dont have that second |
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| 13:29.53 | kenlyric|work | I have a question. Why can't you have your cake and eat it too? |
| 13:30.04 | kenlyric|work | what the hell is the point of having cake if you don't eat it? |
| 13:30.09 | sylvanaar | afaik you target the mob you have aggroed as soon as he starts to cast, or strikes you, not if he just runs towards you |
| 13:30.27 | Industrial | so press tab if combat starts |
| 13:30.46 | Industrial | I imagine you look around you when combat starts so you see him way bofore hes at you... |
| 13:34.40 | CIA-17 | 03pneumatus * r27350 10ClassLoot/ (ClassLoot.lua ClassLoot_Data.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 13:34.40 | CIA-17 | ClassLoot: |
| 13:34.40 | CIA-17 | - ItemIDs as numbers not strings |
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| 13:40.31 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r27351 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 13:40.31 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 13:40.31 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 13:50.24 | xyu | dammmm i hate maintenance. its always on the best day of the week for me :( :( : ( :( |
| 13:50.32 | Iceroth | anyone working with Prat around? |
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| 14:00.44 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r27352 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc layouts/layouts.xml): |
| 14:00.44 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 14:00.45 | CIA-17 | - Layouts.xml file removed |
| 14:00.45 | CIA-17 | - Script files previously being called in Layouts.xml are now called in the .toc |
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| 14:10.37 | jjb_ | wtf, they shut down the loginserver at 4pm |
| 14:10.49 | jjb_ | nice timing |
| 14:11.04 | dotted | isnt that first in 50 mins? |
| 14:11.08 | Daemona | well |
| 14:11.10 | Daemona | thats fun |
| 14:11.20 | Daemona | 6pm is the usual raid start time |
| 14:11.22 | jjb_ | yes, but iam still at work |
| 14:11.25 | Daemona | many angry customers |
| 14:11.44 | xyu | as long as it comes up fast! |
| 14:11.47 | Daemona | you'd have to login before 4pm to be able to play until 8pm |
| 14:11.53 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r27353 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua: FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua : corrected some probs with new oneview version |
| 14:11.54 | xyu | i have 38 more levels to go |
| 14:11.55 | dotted | xyu doesnt come up at 8 |
| 14:12.13 | xyu | what time is it now? |
| 14:12.13 | xyu | pst |
| 14:12.24 | Daemona | 3.15pm |
| 14:12.24 | xyu | my timezone is whack |
| 14:12.25 | jjb_ | i called my wife, so she login :) |
| 14:12.44 | xyu | oh well |
| 14:12.44 | Daemona | well talking about europe that is |
| 14:12.49 | xyu | i'll use this time to plan out more quests. |
| 14:13.03 | xyu | I'm heading to shimmering flats then back to STV. need to draw maps and coords out. |
| 14:13.05 | xyu | for my way points :D |
| 14:16.15 | CIA-17 | 03neuron * r27354 10nQuestLog/ (. nQuestLog.toc): nQuestLog : Fixing externals |
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| 14:18.47 | Hjalte | Is there any other modules for Grid that can show me my own hot than GridStatusHots? |
| 14:19.05 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27355 10BigWigs_Debugger/ (Debugger.lua icon_off.tga icon_on.tga): BigWigs_Debugger: add on off icon, better tablet hint, better plugin text |
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| 14:24.39 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 14:25.35 | neenee | Hi Fu |
| 14:25.35 | neenee | er |
| 14:25.35 | neenee | Funkeh` |
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| 14:25.51 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:25.54 | Funkeh` | where di fu come from |
| 14:25.54 | sbu | Saroz: sRaidFrame profile switching (group, class, role) rocks! :) |
| 14:25.59 | Funkeh` | did* |
| 14:26.11 | neenee | Funkeh`: I'm not sure :) |
| 14:26.25 | Funkeh` | dodgy trigger finger on the enter button |
| 14:26.32 | neenee | yup |
| 14:29.51 | AKX | By the way, are the plans to merge FuXPFu and ExperienceFu? That should be done... |
| 14:31.00 | Gnarfoz | should not |
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| 14:32.41 | vhaarr | should not indeed |
| 14:32.59 | drin | I agree : ) |
| 14:33.40 | drin | For the obvious reason, stats (numbers) are not visuals : ) |
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| 14:37.13 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r27356 10FishingAce/ (. FishingAce.lua Libs/): |
| 14:37.13 | CIA-17 | FishingAce: |
| 14:37.13 | CIA-17 | - Spaces -> Tabs |
| 14:37.13 | CIA-17 | - Metrognome is now a local instance; previously it was a local instance and a mixin |
| 14:37.13 | CIA-17 | - Cleaning up externals |
| 14:37.13 | CIA-17 | - Setting log template property |
| 14:37.27 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27357 10BigWigs/ (Azeroth/ Other/): BigWigs: Other --> Azeroth |
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| 14:39.12 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27358 10BigWigs/Azeroth/ (Azeroth.toc Other.toc): BigWigs: Other.toc --> Azeroth.toc |
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| 14:45.01 | Industrial | ckknight: whats the deal with wau and Cartographer? It uses a bat file to put all the modules out of the Cartographer folder. Cant you just make them optional modules? |
| 14:46.07 | [Ammo] | it makes them LoD industrial |
| 14:46.13 | [Ammo] | which is good for loading speed |
| 14:46.29 | chutwig | ever since the change my bugsack records a lot of acelocale errors from cartographer modules |
| 14:46.40 | Industrial | on to my second question, why are they not modules like the other modules? |
| 14:46.41 | vhaarr | that's because you're not doing it right. |
| 14:46.44 | Funkeh` | probably because you don't delete when updating |
| 14:46.50 | Funkeh` | so you have the modules loading twice |
| 14:46.58 | [Ammo] | Industrial: they are |
| 14:47.00 | chutwig | the first thing i did was delete everything cartographer-related and resync |
| 14:47.03 | Funkeh` | just delete all your carto addons and install fresh from wau |
| 14:47.09 | chutwig | see above |
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| 14:47.15 | [Ammo] | Industrial: you can run them nonLoD (which is what I do) |
| 14:47.21 | Funkeh` | i dunno you've done something wrong then ^^ |
| 14:47.22 | Industrial | I dont see them at files.wowace.com so they arent :P |
| 14:47.31 | [Ammo] | they are modules, just bundled with carto |
| 14:47.36 | Industrial | why? |
| 14:47.47 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r27360 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:47.47 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:47.47 | CIA-17 | -Update locale koKR (by turtl) |
| 14:47.51 | [Ammo] | because without them carto is nothing |
| 14:47.58 | Industrial | fubar sint either |
| 14:48.03 | Industrial | without any plugin |
| 14:48.03 | [Ammo] | it's like stripping all the bossmodules from bigwigs |
| 14:48.17 | Funkeh` | but fubar is designed to be framework afaik |
| 14:48.26 | Industrial | and cartographer isnt? |
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| 14:48.32 | [Ammo] | carto is different |
| 14:48.34 | Funkeh` | not really |
| 14:48.38 | Funkeh` | more of 'plugins' |
| 14:48.47 | [Ammo] | the default modules inside the carto folder is a good idea |
| 14:48.57 | Industrial | i disagree :D |
| 14:49.07 | [Ammo] | well you're a fan of a gazillion folders anyway |
| 14:49.11 | [Ammo] | with your id* addons :p |
| 14:49.18 | [Ammo] | so shoo |
| 14:49.22 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:49.23 | Industrial | well they are all non related and different addons |
| 14:49.47 | Industrial | lekker puh :P |
| 14:49.57 | Funkeh` | i suppose they are bundled to make it a bit more popular |
| 14:50.00 | Adirelle|work | some other are not completely independant from Carto |
| 14:50.03 | [Ammo] | some of those carto modules is silly to move out of the main folder |
| 14:50.06 | Funkeh` | if they weren't they wouldn't be noticed as much |
| 14:50.06 | Adirelle|work | and conversely |
| 14:50.17 | [Ammo] | like the 'Notes' one |
| 14:50.22 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r27361 10Prat/modules/Sounds.lua: Prat: ported the chatsounds mod to the prat framework - drycoded and not in the toc yet |
| 14:50.24 | [Ammo] | it's the core for most of the other modules |
| 14:50.30 | Adirelle|work | as is Waypoints |
| 14:50.32 | [Ammo] | yeahy |
| 14:50.42 | xyu | all i know is i hope there's a Carto_scribe for Azeroth like thier eis for Outlands. |
| 14:50.42 | [Ammo] | making those LoD is useless, since they load anyway |
| 14:50.43 | xyu | <3 |
| 14:50.46 | Industrial | battleground coordinates foglight groupcolors guildpositions instanceloot instancemaps poi and soneinfo |
| 14:50.54 | Adirelle|work | tightly tied with core |
| 14:50.58 | Industrial | these can all be modules separate of the Cartographer addon |
| 14:51.16 | [Ammo] | nothing prevents you from deleting them Id. |
| 14:51.25 | Industrial | well i was asking ckknight tbh |
| 14:51.36 | [Ammo] | don't think ckk had anything to do with that :) |
| 14:51.45 | [Ammo] | but I know he keeps 'his' modules inside the carto folder |
| 14:51.56 | [Ammo] | everything carto_ outside of it, is not made by him |
| 14:51.59 | Adirelle|work | well, first, try not to load them |
| 14:52.04 | Adirelle|work | to see if carto still works :) |
| 14:52.07 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:52.12 | Industrial | thus, back to square one. |
| 14:52.25 | Uhuru | which add on can stop "out of range" "spell not ready" ... spam ? |
| 14:52.32 | [Ammo] | ErrorMonster |
| 14:52.40 | Uhuru | thx |
| 14:53.14 | Adirelle|work | I once made a macro that allowed to cast a spell quietly, was nice to make spammable macros |
| 14:53.26 | Adirelle|work | was slain by 2.0 |
| 14:53.55 | xyu | yeah that would be nice |
| 14:53.59 | Gnarfoz | <[Ammo]> but I know he keeps 'his' modules inside the carto folder <-- huh? |
| 14:54.00 | xyu | i'd go for somethign that shut me up |
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| 14:54.30 | Gnarfoz | since a while, the modules that were once inside cartographer\modules\ are now outside as their own LoD addons |
| 14:54.30 | [Ammo] | Gnarfoz: no |
| 14:54.30 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 14:54.30 | [Ammo] | that's becuase you're using WAU |
| 14:54.33 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 14:54.34 | Adirelle|work | in fact getting some of the modules out of the way would require a big cleanup and API changes |
| 14:54.34 | Industrial | [Ammo]: Cartographer with only notes and waypoints works fine |
| 14:54.36 | xyu | i also want to find some how to move the quest completion text. Firemane Scale: 1/5 etc. |
| 14:54.37 | [Ammo] | which makes you THINK that |
| 14:54.40 | Industrial | [Ammo]: and I bet without them too |
| 14:54.56 | Gnarfoz | whyever there's no way to update with wau and have it all in one folder like it used to be oO |
| 14:55.01 | Gnarfoz | (if it's only with WAU) |
| 14:55.14 | [Ammo] | because WAU is silly |
| 14:55.18 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
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| 14:55.23 | Gnarfoz | someone specifically made it that way |
| 14:55.25 | [Ammo] | and cartographer's file structure is completely screwed over because of it |
| 14:55.26 | Adirelle|work | xyu: it was /quietcast, but we could well imagine /mute and /unmute to place before and after casting |
| 14:55.27 | Gnarfoz | thats not silliness |
| 14:55.49 | Gnarfoz | it works just fine, whatever is 'screwed over'? |
| 14:55.56 | xyu | would that mute all sound? |
| 14:56.09 | Industrial | xyu: disable the sound in the options? |
| 14:56.20 | xyu | ? there's an option for it? |
| 14:56.25 | Adirelle|work | not all, just error messages, but I would bet ErrorMonstor do this, not ? |
| 14:56.27 | Industrial | disable error speech |
| 14:56.35 | xyu | ah ok |
| 14:56.44 | vhaarr | ErrorMonster can't do that. |
| 14:56.46 | xyu | i never check the sound options :P |
| 14:56.52 | vhaarr | You have to physically replace the WAV files. |
| 14:57.07 | Industrial | lol vhaarr theres an option for it |
| 14:57.10 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27362 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 14:57.10 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: Spell: |
| 14:57.10 | CIA-17 | - deDE Prayer of Mending, according to Oranien |
| 14:57.12 | xyu | any way to move quest completion text? |
| 14:57.16 | vhaarr | Industrial: I .. know .. ? |
| 14:57.32 | xyu | the yellow text at the top mid |
| 14:57.34 | Industrial | xyu: yeah a quest addon with a minion |
| 14:57.40 | Adirelle|work | dynamically changing the option would work |
| 14:57.41 | Industrial | xyu: oh, no |
| 14:57.44 | vhaarr | ErrorMonster could set the cvar. |
| 14:58.01 | vhaarr | But it can't block the sounds from only the errors that it is blocking. |
| 14:58.03 | xyu | i hate their location for it. wish it was lower |
| 14:58.22 | Adirelle|work | vhaarr: it acts globally you mean ? |
| 14:58.30 | vhaarr | yes |
| 14:58.57 | [Ammo] | Gnarfoz: what is screwed over is the fact that for LoD moving to work WAU requires you to name the subfolders prefixed with the addon name |
| 14:59.13 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r27363 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: |
| 14:59.13 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Fishing : |
| 14:59.13 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:59.14 | Gnarfoz | ...so? |
| 14:59.24 | Gnarfoz | doesn't it rename those subfolders by itself or what |
| 14:59.29 | vhaarr | so WAU is a piece of shit |
| 14:59.30 | [Ammo] | yeah it doesn't |
| 14:59.30 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] actually it only requires that your TOC be correct |
| 14:59.32 | Gnarfoz | I don't get it. who did that "package" stuff anyway? |
| 14:59.42 | Industrial | i still say fix the problem at its root |
| 14:59.44 | [Ammo] | the package stuff is bonkers |
| 14:59.49 | Industrial | the modules. |
| 14:59.50 | [Ammo] | anyway |
| 15:00.02 | [Ammo] | Industrial: if someone choses to keep their modules inside the addon you can't stop them |
| 15:00.10 | [Ammo] | I know I keep my BigWigs core stuff inside the BigWigs/ folder |
| 15:00.11 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz i did |
| 15:00.14 | [Ammo] | with the option of making them LoD |
| 15:00.18 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: why? :D |
| 15:00.23 | Adirelle|work | the package stuff was designated to allow easy update of SAL... |
| 15:00.27 | Industrial | [Ammo]: so thats why im here to ASK ckknight not anyone else to put them out of the filder |
| 15:00.29 | sylvanaar | Gagorian for !!!StandaloneLibraries |
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| 15:00.42 | Industrial | [Ammo]: but he is not here now apparently |
| 15:00.54 | [Ammo] | Industrial: I can imagine him saying no, because of the same reason I don't move the stuff out of the bigwigs folder |
| 15:01.07 | [Ammo] | Cartographer is defined by its basic functionality |
| 15:01.20 | Gnarfoz | it's part of Cartographer, why move it out? ^^ |
| 15:01.23 | [Ammo] | telling someone to download Cartographer now will get them what they expect |
| 15:01.30 | [Ammo] | the basic functionality |
| 15:01.36 | Industrial | Cartographer _can_ be defines by functionality added by whatever modules. |
| 15:01.51 | [Ammo] | Industrial: correct, and by default some modules are included that can be optionally made LoD |
| 15:02.03 | [Ammo] | Industrial: you have to think out of a dumb user view |
| 15:02.05 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo] some guildmates said me they expected Cart to remember ore/herb spots... I had to tell them to download additionnal modules |
| 15:02.11 | Industrial | no i refuse |
| 15:02.14 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27364 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 15:02.15 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: Zone: |
| 15:02.15 | CIA-17 | - deDE updates |
| 15:02.18 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: too bad |
| 15:02.20 | Gnarfoz | users are dumb. |
| 15:02.23 | Industrial | im not a dumb user and i dont care about dumb users |
| 15:02.35 | Gnarfoz | perhaps the developer of the addon does? |
| 15:02.35 | [Ammo] | Industrial: but you're smart enough to have an update.bat that fixes it all fo ryou |
| 15:02.35 | Industrial | dumb users should be less dumb |
| 15:02.38 | Adirelle|work | Industrial: that's an error |
| 15:02.41 | Gnarfoz | because he wants it to be actually used?> |
| 15:02.43 | [Ammo] | Industrial: if you want I can give you my imba .bat :p |
| 15:02.44 | xyu | i agree w/ id ^^ |
| 15:02.59 | Industrial | for crying out loud :( |
| 15:03.15 | Industrial | why would you cater to laziness? |
| 15:03.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, let's only cater to the smart people which make up... how much of the playerbase? |
| 15:03.24 | Industrial | its just not right |
| 15:03.24 | xyu | i used to be a dumb user but i come here to try and learn. anyone can do it. i'm still pretty dumb but i'm active :D |
| 15:03.32 | [Ammo] | Industrial: it's not really catering to lazyness |
| 15:03.32 | Gnarfoz | you are just fucking elitist, that's all :p |
| 15:03.40 | [Ammo] | Industrial: right now I can tell people to download BigWigs.zip |
| 15:03.43 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (i=MoonWolf@g173217.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 15:03.43 | Gnarfoz | "Oh, I can do it, why can't they?" :p |
| 15:03.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 15:03.43 | Industrial | im not elitist |
| 15:03.45 | [Ammo] | install it, use it, and it's complete |
| 15:03.59 | Adirelle|work | yeah |
| 15:04.02 | [Ammo] | I don't have to tell them to download BigWigs, BigWigs_Azeroth, BigWigs_MC, BigWigs_BWL etc etc etc |
| 15:04.03 | Adirelle|work | that's the point |
| 15:04.21 | Industrial | catering to laziness. |
| 15:04.24 | [Ammo] | if they want speedy loading etc I tell them to download BigWigs.zip and run the .bat |
| 15:04.31 | Adirelle|work | when addon need to be used by most or all player in a guild/raid, it have to be dumb-friendly |
| 15:04.35 | [Ammo] | Its catering my own lazyness |
| 15:04.47 | [Ammo] | because if I don't do it this way I get lots and lots and lots of requests and complaints |
| 15:04.54 | [Ammo] | because of the popularity of the addon |
| 15:04.57 | Industrial | make a wiki page and tell them to read it |
| 15:05.02 | MoonWolf | how do you account for heroic non heroic dungeons ? |
| 15:05.03 | Industrial | explain there, done. |
| 15:05.09 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: haha |
| 15:05.13 | Adirelle|work | Industrial: lol |
| 15:05.17 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: we don't atm since it's not needed yet |
| 15:05.18 | Gnarfoz | they'll just download something easier to use then |
| 15:05.24 | Gnarfoz | get real ^^ |
| 15:05.30 | MoonWolf | there is not actual mechanic difference between them ? |
| 15:05.32 | Industrial | well then why would you want such users? |
| 15:05.35 | [Ammo] | Industrial: write an addon with 500k+ users |
| 15:05.43 | MoonWolf | like decreased timers on certain abilities or something. |
| 15:05.45 | [Ammo] | Industrial: then fuck them over by making them download 10 differnt modules |
| 15:05.48 | [Ammo] | and watch the horror |
| 15:06.00 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: we don't support encounters that have heroic mode yet |
| 15:06.05 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 15:06.14 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: when we do we can adjust |
| 15:06.16 | MoonWolf | i'm not even 70 yet. |
| 15:06.34 | MoonWolf | going to get 68 today though |
| 15:06.39 | Industrial | again, why would you want dumb users? (im not being elitist, lets just use that phrase for the group of users we are taliing about) |
| 15:06.39 | Adirelle|work | Industrial: you don't want them, you HAVE TO deal with them |
| 15:06.57 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: you can't choose your users |
| 15:06.57 | [Ammo] | Industrial: you get them automatically by creating something that's useful to a large group of people |
| 15:07.02 | Gnarfoz | if you publish you addon on the internet |
| 15:07.06 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 15:07.16 | [Ammo] | Industrial: if you don't want a userbase don't put it on wowace, don't write about it and keep it a secret |
| 15:07.26 | Industrial | (thats what i do) |
| 15:07.30 | Gnarfoz | (which is, the definition of elitism) |
| 15:07.39 | Industrial | (and i dont care) |
| 15:07.41 | Gngsk | (damn elitists) |
| 15:07.44 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 15:07.46 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 15:07.47 | Adirelle|work | Industrial: that's the same as being company IT administrator and/or technician |
| 15:08.37 | [Ammo] | Industrial: reality is you get dumb users, and you get complaints/requests/blaaat |
| 15:08.51 | Industrial | well im not going to make worse software (in my opinion) to make it easier for dumb users to get it. if they want it they will have to learn |
| 15:09.03 | Industrial | worse as in, i could do it better. |
| 15:09.05 | art3mis | dumb users serve a purpose |
| 15:09.13 | Adirelle|work | Industrial: what your profession btw ? :D |
| 15:09.18 | art3mis | if it werent for dumb people private consulting would be nil |
| 15:09.21 | Industrial | Adirelle|work: programmer? |
| 15:09.21 | Gnarfoz | not making money from software, I guess |
| 15:09.23 | Daemona | Industrial bad approach |
| 15:09.29 | Gnarfoz | or anything else that needs a userbase |
| 15:09.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 15:09.30 | Adirelle|work | Industrial: choose another one :D |
| 15:09.34 | Daemona | forcing ppl to learn something they dont understand |
| 15:09.45 | art3mis | and you get them back for being dumb simply by charging them 75-150/hr to fix dumb shit they could have done themselves |
| 15:09.47 | Industrial | i dont force them |
| 15:09.49 | Gnarfoz | except if it's educational software :D |
| 15:09.55 | Daemona | they will just do what [Ammo] told you, they write down the steps and repeat them dumbly |
| 15:10.10 | [Ammo] | Industrial: I think the other way around is better, make it easy for them to get used to it, and if they want to optimize/tweak/make it 'better' they can learn something |
| 15:10.43 | Adirelle|work | notice that's one of the point of OSS |
| 15:11.07 | Adirelle|work | you can just download it and "dumbly" use it |
| 15:11.21 | Adirelle|work | and if you want, you can also download the sources and begin playing with it |
| 15:11.24 | Industrial | well i make the addons for fun, and like i said - if i dont get paid for it per user i dont care if they understand or not. |
| 15:11.53 | Funkeh` | wierd what discussions we can make with a module being separate or not |
| 15:12.00 | Funkeh` | cartographer ---> dumb users |
| 15:12.02 | Industrial | if they want it they will learn. |
| 15:12.02 | Adirelle|work | but it can work out of the box |
| 15:12.04 | Industrial | by themselves. not forced, because of interest. |
| 15:12.04 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 15:12.35 | xyu | So what's the "best" way to have the _newest_ updated addons, bugs and all? Just curious . |
| 15:12.36 | Adirelle|work | Funkeh`: making the module in our out is philosophical (sp?) |
| 15:12.40 | Adirelle|work | s/our/or/ |
| 15:13.00 | art3mis | WUU or WAU |
| 15:13.05 | art3mis | or a list of bookmarks to all yer fav apps ;P |
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| 15:13.49 | xyu | what's the diff between svn and wau versions? |
| 15:13.52 | xyu | is there any? |
| 15:13.54 | Adirelle|work | btw, I'm using SVN for cartographer so I didn't even tested what WAU does with it |
| 15:13.57 | Daemona | if its ace based, definitly WAU |
| 15:14.04 | xyu | all ace based |
| 15:14.18 | Daemona | svn is faster, as wau only grabs the built zips from files.wowace.com |
| 15:14.30 | xyu | k that's what i thought |
| 15:14.51 | Daemona | and the zip script is a cron-job -> can take some time |
| 15:15.01 | xyu | svn would be "newer" right? |
| 15:15.02 | DirtySanch | whats wuu? |
| 15:15.03 | Adirelle|work | xyu: svn newer, WAU as additionnal processing (package) and mirroring support |
| 15:15.03 | Industrial | 20 mins |
| 15:15.04 | Industrial | afaik |
| 15:15.10 | neenee | yup, 20 |
| 15:15.18 | xyu | Adirelle|work: oki thanks. I'm pretty new to the svn thing. Not exactly sure what it was. |
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| 15:15.48 | xyu | i like to try out the newest stuff though even if there are some typos or what not |
| 15:15.55 | Adirelle|work | and well, svn should be barely used, as it also imply more load on the server |
| 15:15.57 | sylvanaar | i think the point of files.wowace.com is to stop people updating from the svn which overloads it |
| 15:16.04 | xyu | yeah i read that part |
| 15:16.50 | xyu | (and follow) :P |
| 15:16.58 | art3mis | wuu is wau only it has support for other sites aswell |
| 15:17.02 | Adirelle|work | wau doesn't need to install and configure SVN too... it is preconfigured for updating WoW ace addons, as SVN is a more general purpose software |
| 15:17.26 | art3mis | you need to tell it where to get stuff from though |
| 15:19.06 | DirtySanch | you got a link to wuu? |
| 15:20.59 | art3mis | http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 15:21.12 | Adirelle|work | wuu seems very interesting |
| 15:21.18 | art3mis | works pretty good |
| 15:21.36 | art3mis | wowi ui and curse arent automated/predefined like ace is |
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| 15:21.57 | art3mis | but once you set up the download url for each addon it works pretty good |
| 15:22.29 | xyu | ui has a auto updater as well, haven't tried it since before i used ace addons |
| 15:22.48 | Amadeo | WoWUI updater is full of banner ads |
| 15:23.02 | art3mis | i use wuu when i wanna check for other addons |
| 15:23.31 | winkiller | any reasons to choose WUU over WAU? |
| 15:23.31 | art3mis | and wau most days before i start wow ;P |
| 15:23.31 | Adirelle|work | the main point of wuu is that it's multisourced |
| 15:23.31 | winkiller | ah, ok |
| 15:23.32 | art3mis | the only advantage that wuu has is that it can pull for addons that arent ace |
| 15:23.36 | Adirelle|work | I still have one or two non-ace addons (xperl and itemrack) |
| 15:23.44 | winkiller | yeah, didn't notice that. I barely have any others |
| 15:23.52 | art3mis | but the benefit is that it ca pull ace as well |
| 15:24.26 | art3mis | ive got i think 5 that arent ace |
| 15:24.39 | Adirelle|work | yep, one ring to rule them... er... one tool to update them all |
| 15:24.56 | art3mis | but none updte all that frequent |
| 15:24.57 | art3mis | update |
| 15:24.58 | art3mis | oh and wuu auto updates |
| 15:25.04 | art3mis | the ciore program i mean |
| 15:25.06 | art3mis | core |
| 15:25.15 | |Kev| | but note also that WAU is intended to support multiple sources in the future |
| 15:25.27 | |Kev| | as is MAU (and MAU also self-updates) |
| 15:25.32 | art3mis | they're both pretty decent |
| 15:25.38 | art3mis | mac auto updater? |
| 15:25.40 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 15:25.40 | DirtySanch | WAU shoudl ahve been deployed using the microsoft click once deployment |
| 15:25.45 | DirtySanch | then woudl auto update :P |
| 15:25.47 | |Kev| | art3mis: s/auto/ace/ but yes |
| 15:25.47 | Adirelle|work | (wuu is plateform independant btw) |
| 15:26.06 | art3mis | its easily modded |
| 15:26.10 | art3mis | most of it is python |
| 15:26.30 | art3mis | but yeah |
| 15:26.36 | |Kev| | I would have made MAU cross-platform, but I a) didn't want to 'compete' with WAU, and b) wanted to learn objective-c and cocoa |
| 15:26.39 | art3mis | you can use a program called parallel in osx though |
| 15:26.53 | art3mis | with a shared folder |
| 15:27.01 | |Kev| | parallels |
| 15:27.05 | |Kev| | :) |
| 15:27.08 | art3mis | yes yes ;P |
| 15:27.13 | sylvanaar | sounds like a good gateway for a trojan 'easily modded, self-updating' |
| 15:27.20 | art3mis | yeah i had the same though |
| 15:27.23 | art3mis | thought |
| 15:27.26 | art3mis | but meh |
| 15:27.35 | art3mis | all auto updaters are |
| 15:27.46 | Adirelle|work | notice that UniUploader do the same too |
| 15:27.50 | Adirelle|work | s/do/does/ |
| 15:27.56 | art3mis | it wouldnt be that hard to make wau break its directory and putshit where you dont want it |
| 15:28.04 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 15:28.09 | art3mis | i had a zim flash back |
| 15:28.16 | Adirelle|work | but well, UU was initially upload focused |
| 15:28.19 | art3mis | with dib stammer "that thing he do" |
| 15:28.26 | art3mis | stammering |
| 15:28.53 | art3mis | oh that reminds me, any of you nerds going to the new york comic con? |
| 15:29.15 | art3mis | jhonen vasquez is gonna be there |
| 15:29.23 | art3mis | and the chick that does the vioce for blood rayne |
| 15:29.50 | winkiller | nyc is a bit far |
| 15:30.09 | art3mis | not for me |
| 15:30.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:30.26 | art3mis | hey kev, how good is parallels? |
| 15:30.50 | winkiller | it's only 500km to the coast, then across the atlantic.. not worth it I'd say |
| 15:31.12 | art3mis | like for instance if i hooked up an iomega to it, would it actually find the drive and havethe autobackup function corectly? |
| 15:31.22 | art3mis | hehe picky picky ;P |
| 15:31.32 | art3mis | damn euros and thier "kms" |
| 15:31.42 | art3mis | <-- is canadian |
| 15:31.58 | art3mis | i use metric just to fuck with people here, it's graet fun |
| 15:32.03 | winkiller | lol |
| 15:32.11 | art3mis | specially talking about the weather |
| 15:32.22 | art3mis | "yeah in calgary it used to get to -30 in the winter" |
| 15:32.36 | vhaarr | :P |
| 15:32.36 | |Kev| | art3mis: it's good if you just want a standalone windows without hardware interaction |
| 15:32.40 | art3mis | or "it's only 2 degrees out, thats not cold" |
| 15:32.49 | |Kev| | art3mis: support for devices is less predictable |
| 15:32.59 | art3mis | ahh so its just a complete emu? not hardware related? |
| 15:33.06 | |Kev| | oh, it is |
| 15:33.08 | art3mis | would vmware be a better choice? |
| 15:33.19 | |Kev| | on linux or osx? |
| 15:33.23 | art3mis | osx |
| 15:33.25 | |Kev| | on osx parallels is more mature |
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| 15:33.31 | |Kev| | on linux, the reverse |
| 15:33.40 | art3mis | one of my clients just got a macbook |
| 15:33.52 | |Kev| | I use parallels every day |
| 15:33.53 | art3mis | so i need to redo his laptop setup for sync with his win32 server |
| 15:34.02 | winkiller | fahrenheit is way too oldschool :P |
| 15:34.09 | |Kev| | but I have mad mixed results with usb |
| 15:34.14 | |Kev| | webcams have trouble, it seems |
| 15:34.14 | art3mis | heh yeah so is feet ;P |
| 15:34.35 | art3mis | any issues with programs? |
| 15:34.41 | art3mis | win32's that is |
| 15:34.53 | art3mis | i "think" he ended up getting the intel version |
| 15:34.54 | sylvanaar | oh, and whoever was asking, if you dont want cartographer unpacked you make a directory: Cartographer.nounpack |
| 15:35.04 | art3mis | nounpack? |
| 15:35.11 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 15:35.27 | |Kev| | macbooks are only intel |
| 15:35.38 | art3mis | read it as a word syl itll be funy then |
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| 15:35.48 | |Kev| | and no, all programs I've tried that don't require directx or hardware interaction have worked fine |
| 15:35.52 | art3mis | really? since when? |
| 15:36.03 | art3mis | i swore they have ppc and intel |
| 15:36.21 | |Kev| | they don't |
| 15:36.35 | art3mis | oh i found the most awesome thing at bestbuy couple of weeks ago |
| 15:36.43 | |Kev| | they dropped the old ranges (of laptops) completely when they moved to intel |
| 15:36.50 | |Kev| | so powerbook/ibook = ppc |
| 15:36.58 | |Kev| | macbookmacbook pro = intel |
| 15:37.03 | art3mis | 60gb self powered usb backupdrive WITH a 1 click sync.backup program |
| 15:37.09 | art3mis | ahh gotche |
| 15:37.11 | art3mis | a |
| 15:37.22 | art3mis | i lurv it |
| 15:37.29 | art3mis | wow on the go |
| 15:37.44 | art3mis | all yer settings etc etc etc without messing up someone elses machine |
| 15:38.04 | art3mis | and it runs properly sicne its a drive not a flash |
| 15:38.12 | Amadeo | I wonder if you could run WoW off a large USB drive |
| 15:38.20 | art3mis | any noticable difference in the ppc vs intel? |
| 15:38.25 | art3mis | you can |
| 15:38.28 | art3mis | just not well |
| 15:38.30 | |Kev| | yes |
| 15:38.31 | Amadeo | too slow? |
| 15:38.38 | art3mis | it interacts wierdly |
| 15:38.38 | |Kev| | intel = blisteringly fast |
| 15:38.45 | Amadeo | I see |
| 15:38.52 | |Kev| | ppc = ,ehm, not |
| 15:38.58 | art3mis | sometimes iuts smooth, othertimes its laggy because of the power consumption |
| 15:39.06 | art3mis | in hdd vs flash i mean |
| 15:39.26 | art3mis | which is better for graphics and music n stuff? still ppc? |
| 15:39.34 | art3mis | or has it hit the point of negliable |
| 15:40.00 | |Kev| | there isn't anything ppc does better than intel afaik |
| 15:40.02 | Amadeo | I always thought that the PPC superiority was just Apple zealotry |
| 15:40.09 | |Kev| | which is why you can't buy PPC machines anymore |
| 15:40.15 | art3mis | but its also a cost toss up you can get a 60gb hdd usb for 100$ or get a 8gb flash for 140$ |
| 15:40.22 | |Kev| | Amadeo: it used to be true, I believe |
| 15:40.32 | Amadeo | |Kev|: Maybe 10 years ago |
| 15:40.33 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:40.44 | |Kev| | yeah, a few years ago at least |
| 15:40.45 | art3mis | ppc still has heat disipation though |
| 15:40.50 | art3mis | over intel |
| 15:40.51 | |Kev| | not the G5 |
| 15:40.58 | art3mis | noh right |
| 15:41.03 | |Kev| | that's why they never got G5 into a laptop |
| 15:41.04 | art3mis | the cube was g5 wasnt it? |
| 15:41.09 | |Kev| | powerhungry and hot |
| 15:41.18 | art3mis | hehe cracking cubes |
| 15:41.20 | |Kev| | cube? not convinced |
| 15:41.36 | |Kev| | PowerMac and imac ended up G5 before going intel |
| 15:41.39 | art3mis | the cube (tm) and the slab(tm) |
| 15:42.07 | art3mis | oh i ahve another question since yer mac versed |
| 15:42.20 | art3mis | thier usb is 1.1 on the old blueberry's right? |
| 15:42.33 | art3mis | not some wierd mac-usb? |
| 15:43.57 | |Kev| | I know nothing about blueberries, whatever those are :) |
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| 15:44.03 | art3mis | anyone wanna buy a rackmount? |
| 15:44.09 | |Kev| | but afaik, macs have always had compliant usb |
| 15:44.12 | art3mis | a dell 42u |
| 15:44.20 | art3mis | yeah that was my assumption on it |
| 15:44.25 | art3mis | wasnt 100% sure though |
| 15:47.38 | CIA-17 | 03pneumatus * r27365 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.lua: |
| 15:47.38 | CIA-17 | ClassLoot: |
| 15:47.38 | CIA-17 | - Code optimisations |
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| 15:59.29 | kagaro | artemis: how much and shoipped form where? |
| 16:00.10 | kagaro | <-- need to replace the rac at his house |
| 16:01.40 | [Ammo] | anyone know if the Shadow Embrace effect counts as an affliction effect towards the Soul Siphon buff |
| 16:01.47 | art3mis | shipped from nyc, and 400 without the ups 900 with the ups |
| 16:01.56 | [Ammo] | s/buff/talent/ |
| 16:02.00 | art3mis | or somewhere around those prices ;P |
| 16:02.29 | art3mis | [Ammo]: i don't believe it does but not 100% sure |
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| 16:02.46 | kagaro | art3mis: you already have a frieght company ? |
| 16:02.50 | [Ammo] | nvm that question: http://www.wowwiki.com/Soul_Siphon |
| 16:02.51 | [Ammo] | it does |
| 16:03.10 | art3mis | nope was only looking at local, shouldnt be that hard to get a decent one though |
| 16:04.26 | art3mis | need to find me a 2.5-3' rackmount too for the 3 servers and 1 network streaming u2's i hav too, the 42u was in an old server room and overkill for my needs |
| 16:04.38 | kagaro | is it a cabinet i.e. has sides or just the rack frame? |
| 16:04.40 | winkiller | mhm, WUU doesn't work too good. |
| 16:04.47 | winkiller | or is it intentional to manually insert the id of every non-ace-addon? |
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| 16:05.27 | Amadeo | wow |
| 16:05.34 | Amadeo | Mythic just released DAoC Catacombs for free |
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| 16:05.40 | Amadeo | to current and former subscribers |
| 16:05.44 | xyu | you have to because of the way their websites work |
| 16:05.53 | xyu | really? |
| 16:05.58 | xyu | hmm |
| 16:06.00 | art3mis | its got all the sides and 5 sets of dell slider rails |
| 16:06.08 | xyu | might have to play around w/ that while servers are down |
| 16:06.12 | xyu | i have like 3 level 50's |
| 16:06.22 | xyu | do you have a URL (lazy) |
| 16:06.24 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 16:06.35 | Amadeo | I think I liked DAoC more than WoW overall..at least before ToA |
| 16:06.38 | Adirelle|work | winkiller: I think there is no "updater friendly" for non-ace addon sites |
| 16:06.53 | art3mis | WUU is |
| 16:06.58 | xyu | I liked it for the RvR pre ToA |
| 16:07.00 | Amadeo | http://catacombs.darkageofcamelot.com/downloads.php |
| 16:07.01 | winkiller | Adirelle|work: yeah. that's why I ditched all others before :) |
| 16:07.14 | art3mis | you need to manually insert the addon number for non-ace ones |
| 16:07.15 | Amadeo | RvR rocked |
| 16:07.55 | Adirelle|work | well, I actually I have to check two or three sites for updates... I can afford enter the addon ids once |
| 16:07.56 | xyu | the small groups running around . i didn't enjoy the zerg vs zerg fights much |
| 16:08.10 | art3mis | like for instance... lets say you have advancedtradeskillwindow |
| 16:08.18 | art3mis | and you get the update from that from ui |
| 16:08.52 | Amadeo | Gear wasn't so powerful in early DAoC where you had no chance against someone who had good gear...it was more about class balance then |
| 16:08.53 | art3mis | you hilight its name in listing window... then go to ui.wow and in the url you'll see a number |
| 16:09.05 | art3mis | in this case its 2092 |
| 16:09.35 | art3mis | in the edit addon window the siteid youll see a XXXX replace that with 2092 |
| 16:09.45 | art3mis | and poof yer done |
| 16:09.58 | xyu | then just hope the webpage never changes its layout |
| 16:10.07 | art3mis | if it does wuu gets updated ;P |
| 16:10.51 | art3mis | then once you've added the all the addons you have with the corret links |
| 16:11.37 | art3mis | you click addon->check online version, this will hilight all the new ones as yellow, then click addon->upgrade all and sit back and wait |
| 16:12.06 | art3mis | if you only wish to update select ones you have to do each one manually as in click on it then click the "update" bos at the bottom of the winder |
| 16:12.09 | Adirelle|work | the way to figure the addon id per site is in the documentation |
| 16:12.27 | art3mis | heh im a nerd i figured he format out without docs! |
| 16:12.28 | Adirelle|work | art3mis: does it protect SVN ? |
| 16:12.38 | art3mis | that im not entirely sure of |
| 16:12.45 | art3mis | i use wau for ace because thats what it's for |
| 16:12.51 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 16:13.09 | Adirelle|work | do you know how it checks what the current version ? |
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| 16:13.27 | art3mis | like i said wuu is for once a week checks to see if anything is new or IF my addons that arent ace start messing up |
| 16:13.40 | art3mis | some are date some are version |
| 16:13.48 | art3mis | it depends on who the author has listed it |
| 16:13.49 | art3mis | i think |
| 16:14.07 | art3mis | oh nope |
| 16:14.14 | art3mis | all the non-ace ones are date based |
| 16:14.27 | art3mis | ie. last time it was uploaded |
| 16:14.35 | xyu | the somethingawful thread has a lot of info |
| 16:14.41 | art3mis | all the ace ones follow the revisiopn numbers |
| 16:14.42 | xyu | about how he made it and version changes etc. |
| 16:14.58 | Pneumatus | anyone here using the "TradeBar" addon? |
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| 16:15.29 | xyu | A quick review of how it works, then: |
| 16:15.37 | xyu | WoWAce is, as Blind Guardian said, the easiest of the bunch - straightforward directory structure, no hiding things with PHP, and an easy way of getting the version number. |
| 16:16.18 | xyu | WoWInterface was the second I did, as it's tied to the WoWAce community. |
| 16:16.21 | xyu | Also a quite simple site: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloa...Minimalist.html (Site ID: "5001-Minimalist") has a field for "Version:" that displays the latest version of the mod. I split up the version number and pad each part to three digits for the WoWI version; "2.9.0" becomes "(00)2009000". |
| 16:16.23 | xyu | etc. etc :D |
| 16:17.20 | xyu | UI.WorldOfWar.net was the last one, and the hardest. Example: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1202 (SiteID: "1202") NO version numbers at all, other than a "freeform" field where the mod author MIGHT put his version number. |
| 16:18.06 | Saroz | uhmmm |
| 16:18.11 | Saroz | cart_vendors was deleted? |
| 16:18.16 | doktoreas | is there an ace addon like auctioneer? |
| 16:18.33 | xyu | cart vendors never worked for me anyway :P |
| 16:19.02 | art3mis | mother fucking god damn piece of shit |
| 16:19.03 | Saroz | wtfz |
| 16:19.06 | Saroz | oh well |
| 16:19.25 | art3mis | i ahte fedex |
| 16:19.29 | [Ammo] | Saroz: kodewulf deleted his addons from the svn in a fit of childish rage last night |
| 16:19.30 | art3mis | hate hate hate hate |
| 16:19.53 | xyu | DHL? :D |
| 16:19.54 | Saroz | niiiice |
| 16:20.16 | [Ammo] | he got some critisism and decided to leave |
| 16:20.18 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 16:20.38 | Saroz | can I have his gear? |
| 16:20.44 | Industrial | heh |
| 16:20.54 | art3mis | idiots called me at 8:30 this morning to confirm a delivery |
| 16:21.13 | art3mis | theyn they show up and knock on my window instead of using the buzzer |
| 16:21.29 | [Ammo] | maybe your buzzer is broken? |
| 16:21.43 | art3mis | i call he says "we rang the buzzer" "no actually you didnt because its REALLY loud and REALLY obvious... knocking on the window doesnt count. |
| 16:21.47 | art3mis | nope just went and checked |
| 16:21.59 | art3mis | ya know that noice that "joy buzzers" make? |
| 16:22.06 | art3mis | the shocking grasp things |
| 16:22.11 | art3mis | imagine that through a megaphone |
| 16:22.18 | art3mis | that's my buzzer |
| 16:23.47 | Adirelle|work | can someone explain me the meaning of "shrug" please ? the translation doesn't help me much |
| 16:24.07 | neenee | I can |
| 16:24.17 | Adirelle|work | will you ? ;) |
| 16:24.17 | [Ammo] | it's shrugging your shoulders |
| 16:24.20 | [Ammo] | liek you don't care |
| 16:24.36 | [Ammo] | ~shrug |
| 16:24.38 | purl | go. to. sleep. |
| 16:24.40 | neenee | A shrug is when someone raises his or her shoulders, raising, then lowering, to signify them not understanding or caring about the subject at hand. |
| 16:24.56 | Adirelle|work | ok, thx |
| 16:25.14 | Adirelle|work | checking babelfish: |
| 16:25.16 | neenee | Sometimes they lift their hands, palms upwards to accompany the shrugging |
| 16:25.20 | Adirelle|work | ~x en fr to shrug |
| 16:25.32 | Adirelle|work | ~x fr en gesticuler |
| 16:25.40 | Adirelle|work | ... |
| 16:25.43 | Gnarfoz | =.- |
| 16:25.48 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de shrug |
| 16:25.49 | neenee | Yes, but to gesticulate is very random |
| 16:25.51 | art3mis | hahah |
| 16:25.59 | neenee | It can mean almost anything |
| 16:26.14 | art3mis | wonder if home depot sells 3' high rackmounts |
| 16:26.25 | neenee | Adirelle|work: http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1092838/2/istockphoto_1092838_shrugging_santa.jpg |
| 16:26.30 | neenee | That is shrugging, with the hands |
| 16:26.46 | art3mis | if it wrong that i dont really care to read my realms forums? |
| 16:26.47 | neenee | he could be thinking 'je n'ai sais pas?' |
| 16:26.47 | Adirelle|work | neenee: that's why I said : " the translation doesn't help me much" ;) |
| 16:26.51 | neenee | Adirelle|work: :) |
| 16:27.07 | art3mis | i used to troll my previous to the point of godhood |
| 16:27.18 | art3mis | but now i just dont care all that much |
| 16:27.38 | neenee | Adirelle|work: Here's another good one: http://www.fyvie.net/images/shrug_thumb.jpg - 'Eh? What antidote?' |
| 16:27.39 | Thorgard | art3mis, don't you love your realm anymore!? Why have you forsaken it!? |
| 16:27.47 | art3mis | appearantly |
| 16:28.02 | art3mis | im in a tiny guild now instead of a big one |
| 16:28.06 | kenlyric|work | the hands are definitely not a required part of a shrug. |
| 16:28.12 | art3mis | i prefer to run around solo and group with random people who are in the area |
| 16:28.12 | Adirelle|work | neenee: thx neenne, that's crystal clear now :D |
| 16:28.20 | neenee | Adirelle|work: :) |
| 16:28.30 | art3mis | and i actually go out of my way to avoid trolling on trade |
| 16:28.31 | [Ammo] | I avoid PUGs like the black plague |
| 16:28.41 | art3mis | since its my normal assholish reaction to stupid people |
| 16:28.50 | art3mis | no instances ammo |
| 16:28.59 | art3mis | instances ill only do with people i know dont suck |
| 16:29.09 | art3mis | i mean kill quests and stuff |
| 16:29.21 | art3mis | heh did the free thrall quest last night |
| 16:29.22 | Adirelle|work | art3mis: I'm in middle guild, but I also randomly group for quests, that's easier that trying to find 2 or more guildmate doing the same quest |
| 16:29.27 | art3mis | swstats was hilarious |
| 16:29.47 | art3mis | 3rd on damage, and the rest of the top 10 was mobs i mc'd |
| 16:30.00 | neenee | I'm in a huge guild, probably the largest on the server, but there's little room for quests, it's mainly heading for 70, then doing high-level instances and such :( |
| 16:30.14 | art3mis | well i played tbc beta |
| 16:30.21 | art3mis | so this time around im enjoying it all |
| 16:30.24 | Adirelle|work | But I tested a new method : mating with another guildie and choosing one zone we will only do when we are both connected |
| 16:30.24 | art3mis | and meandering |
| 16:30.26 | neenee | i had two tbc keys, but did not really play. |
| 16:30.29 | chutwig | neenee: don't you wish they would just raid like 3 days a week and then do 5-mans the rest of the time |
| 16:30.45 | neenee | chutwig: Yes, or just don't race to level 70 so that everyone can get a group for things they want to do. |
| 16:30.47 | chutwig | i always feel very rushed and it feels like i don't have the time to spend in 5-mans to gear up appropriately for higher stuff |
| 16:30.53 | art3mis | i went through it to 70 so fast(2 weeks to 70 p[laying 5-7 hours) |
| 16:31.00 | art3mis | that i didnt get a chance to see everything |
| 16:31.03 | chutwig | yeah |
| 16:31.12 | chutwig | i started that tuesday and dinged 70 the next thursday after, so 9 days |
| 16:31.13 | kenlyric|work | how did you get to 70 without seeing everything? |
| 16:31.19 | art3mis | so now that its live im taking my time and clearing out all the quests for each zone as i go |
| 16:31.26 | art3mis | in beta questing |
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| 16:31.36 | art3mis | i leveled to 70 just from quests |
| 16:31.36 | chutwig | rush rush rush |
| 16:31.46 | art3mis | and still ended up with about 40 left over |
| 16:31.47 | kenlyric|work | art3mis: exactly. So you see everything. |
| 16:31.55 | kenlyric|work | And now you do quests for fat cash. |
| 16:31.57 | chutwig | now i want to spend time in instances and everyone is all LET'S GO TO KARAZHAN |
| 16:31.57 | Adirelle|work | I'm 68,75 atm, I did every quests of zone I has been |
| 16:32.00 | art3mis | nope i didnt |
| 16:32.05 | art3mis | i skipped almost ALL the instances |
| 16:32.08 | neenee | 66 here |
| 16:32.17 | kenlyric|work | I did instances for the quests in them. |
| 16:32.23 | chutwig | i did underbog and then skipped everything until sethekk halls at 69 or 70 |
| 16:32.35 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric|work: same here, some reward worth it |
| 16:32.40 | neenee | Me and my girlfriend will do Mana Tombs this evening, hopefully. If we can get enough people. |
| 16:32.44 | art3mis | the only instances i did was mana tombs and that one you fly to in netherstorm |
| 16:32.44 | kenlyric|work | no, I just hate not doing quests :) |
| 16:32.53 | chutwig | bugganar |
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| 16:32.58 | Thorgard | neenee, you mean three people. ;P |
| 16:32.59 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric|work: :) |
| 16:33.01 | chutwig | and brokenica |
| 16:33.06 | art3mis | i dont really play well with others ;P |
| 16:33.09 | Tornhoof | i hit 70 end of blade edge mountains ;) |
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| 16:33.22 | Gnarfoz | I got to 70 without doing one quest in Shadowmoon, Blade's Edge or Netherstorm, actually (did ALL quests in the other zones, tho, and did some instances) |
| 16:33.29 | art3mis | right now im half way through nag and level 67 |
| 16:33.37 | art3mis | 1.6k gold |
| 16:33.40 | neenee | Thorgard: :P |
| 16:33.46 | neenee | Thorgard: Nah, we need five ;) |
| 16:34.00 | Thorgard | neenee, what? ;P You and your girlfriend doesn't count? |
| 16:34.51 | art3mis | but im having fun still |
| 16:34.57 | Adirelle|work | I can't understand people that avoids questing to level... |
| 16:34.57 | art3mis | i lurv being a shadow priest |
| 16:35.08 | art3mis | quests re the most fun |
| 16:35.14 | art3mis | dr.boom is one of my favs |
| 16:35.16 | neenee | Thorgard: We count, but we need five in total :) |
| 16:35.30 | art3mis | i had nintendo flashbacks |
| 16:35.31 | Thorgard | Adirelle|work, if you're dyslexic or can't read I can understand avoiding quests to level. ;P |
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| 16:35.35 | neenee | art3mis: Shadow priest here too, but I'm thinking of re-speccing already to a holy damage build |
| 16:35.45 | art3mis | holy damage is nice |
| 16:35.46 | Adirelle|work | Thorgard: :) |
| 16:36.00 | Gnarfoz | I love doing instances with a holy and a shadow priest |
| 16:36.00 | art3mis | at 70 no-one and i mean no-one can compete with you for healing |
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| 16:36.08 | Adirelle|work | Thorgard: maybe should have add "and who are not game-hindered" |
| 16:36.12 | Gnarfoz | no healing sorrows, no going out of mana :D |
| 16:36.12 | art3mis | in ebta iused to run around with a lock and a feral druid |
| 16:36.18 | art3mis | beta |
| 16:36.22 | neenee | Let me quickly make the build for level 66 I'm thinking of, though I have hardly any spirit gear |
| 16:36.22 | art3mis | afflic lock |
| 16:36.34 | Thorgard | Adirelle|work, electronic entertainmentally challenged. |
| 16:36.34 | art3mis | we tore through everything |
| 16:36.45 | art3mis | even those 5man outdoor quests in shadowmoon |
| 16:36.52 | Gnarfoz | argh |
| 16:37.05 | art3mis | hehe a rogue and i did the big bone worm quest in wastelands last night |
| 16:37.20 | Gnarfoz | why doesn't IE work on an almost fresh installation of xp? oO just pops up and instanly closes itself |
| 16:37.22 | art3mis | his only comment "thats some sick shadow healing" |
| 16:38.20 | kenlyric|work | I was holy for two days after hitting 70, very nice in the two instance runs I did, then so freaking slow when I went back to questing for cash. |
| 16:38.38 | JoshBorke | am i the only priest who is lvling disc? |
| 16:38.56 | Stephmw | guess you must be |
| 16:39.07 | art3mis | you level disc? |
| 16:39.11 | art3mis | thats crazy talk |
| 16:39.14 | Thorgard | JoshBorke, the first priest in my guild to hit 70 was a Disc priest. |
| 16:39.23 | JoshBorke | it's working really well for me |
| 16:39.24 | art3mis | disc got hosed on 42point's in my opinion |
| 16:39.30 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 16:39.31 | art3mis | compared to holy and shadow |
| 16:39.31 | Thorgard | art3mis, I agree. |
| 16:39.37 | JoshBorke | don't have pain suppression, that's lame |
| 16:39.42 | art3mis | supression doesnt last long enough |
| 16:39.53 | kenlyric|work | having two dots means I can multi-grind a lot more efficiently as shadow than any other build. |
| 16:40.00 | art3mis | and the funny thing is that you end up shielding during it defeating the purpose |
| 16:40.06 | neenee | art3mis: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxg0uhhzbhZfxt0brVb - something like that |
| 16:40.14 | neenee | art3mis: But it requires more stamina to be effecting I fear |
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| 16:41.31 | kenlyric|work | you level without spirit tap? That's just insanity. |
| 16:41.47 | JoshBorke | who said no spirit tap? |
| 16:41.49 | JoshBorke | that's lunacy! |
| 16:41.58 | kenlyric|work | neenee's build. |
| 16:41.58 | chutwig | madness! |
| 16:41.58 | art3mis | i'd ditch healing prayers and surge and get reflective in disc and inspiration |
| 16:42.04 | art3mis | inspiration rules |
| 16:42.23 | art3mis | surge of light doesnt proc all that often and when it does its usually when you're in healer mode ;P |
| 16:42.34 | kenlyric|work | plus, with shadow word: death, you can get killing blow a lot more even in groups. |
| 16:43.02 | art3mis | that was almost my beta build though |
| 16:43.24 | JoshBorke | art3mis: so? cast a free smite on a target =P |
| 16:43.26 | art3mis | i gotta respec at 70 i kept thinking that imp shield was he cooldown lowering again when i clicked it |
| 16:43.30 | Barbanus | wow, http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4516/mulligbjrn2nv7.jpg ... 18.2K HP in bear form. |
| 16:43.56 | Mikma | 48k armor :) |
| 16:43.59 | weazer | beer form |
| 16:44.10 | art3mis | JoshBorke: heh free smite or give yer tank another 20% ac ;P |
| 16:44.13 | chutwig | nerf? |
| 16:44.19 | art3mis | which ya think is better |
| 16:44.23 | neenee | art3mis: Hm. Let me look into that then |
| 16:44.30 | neenee | kenlyric|work: At the moment I am shadow with spirit tap |
| 16:44.41 | art3mis | i like inspiration as holy |
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| 16:44.47 | JoshBorke | bb |
| 16:44.56 | arJUna | so is 2.1 live? |
| 16:44.58 | Stephmw | what crit rate% should I be looking at 61? (PvE, non-raiding Mage) |
| 16:45.13 | Barbanus | chutwig, doesnt bother me ... prot warriors take less damage. druids take more damage, but have more HP (generally), so it equals out |
| 16:45.14 | mjc | http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_480x376.mov |
| 16:45.32 | mjc | Stephmw: be more concerned about getting to 70 |
| 16:45.41 | Barbanus | I'd rather heal a prot warrior than a drud.... but either are nice to heal at least. |
| 16:45.48 | chutwig | Barbanus: his rage generation is probably pretty atrocious, though |
| 16:46.04 | mjc | chutwig: no |
| 16:46.05 | neenee | I can't find Inspiration |
| 16:46.24 | Barbanus | chutwig, you mean the prot warrior? or the druids? |
| 16:46.25 | Thorgard | neenee, Holy. |
| 16:46.25 | chutwig | the druid |
| 16:46.25 | chutwig | with 35% dodge |
| 16:46.25 | mjc | I have 17450 on my druid and I always have 75 rage |
| 16:46.25 | neenee | Ah, found it |
| 16:46.31 | mjc | have trouble getting rid of it fast enough |
| 16:46.36 | art3mis | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMGzhoZZVMGtMtR0tVo |
| 16:46.39 | art3mis | thats my present build |
| 16:46.42 | neenee | Is that useful? |
| 16:47.01 | neenee | hm. *reads up on it* |
| 16:47.03 | Barbanus | mjc, haha go go mangle / maul macro! |
| 16:47.09 | kenlyric|work | art3mis: you have imp shield. |
| 16:47.13 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:47.14 | mjc | oh he has like 48,011 armor |
| 16:47.18 | art3mis | that was a mis click ;P |
| 16:47.19 | kenlyric|work | did you not read the union manual? |
| 16:47.21 | chutwig | 48k armor and 35% dodge |
| 16:47.38 | chutwig | he can't generate rage very fast because he's never being hit |
| 16:47.38 | mjc | Barbanus: I don't have a problem with hitting 1,2,1,2,1,2 |
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| 16:47.42 | art3mis | like i said i kept thinking that it was like the old shield so it was a click habit |
| 16:47.49 | weazer | Ok build.. i would have taken shadow power insteed of misery |
| 16:47.51 | art3mis | hence the need to respec at 70 ;P |
| 16:47.53 | Barbanus | mjc, you mean, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2 :P |
| 16:47.55 | art3mis | nah |
| 16:47.56 | mjc | yeah |
| 16:47.59 | art3mis | misery helps the locks |
| 16:48.11 | neenee | dinner. bbs |
| 16:48.11 | Stephmw | mjc: why the rush though? I'm enjoying exploring the new content :) |
| 16:48.14 | art3mis | shadow pwoer isnt worth the points in my opinion |
| 16:48.23 | neenee | art3mis: Your levelling build? |
| 16:48.28 | mjc | Stephmw: no you're whining about crit rate1 |
| 16:48.29 | mjc | ! |
| 16:48.39 | DirtySanch | what combat log is used in http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4516/mulligbjrn2nv7.jpg ? |
| 16:48.40 | Stephmw | mjc: eh? did I? |
| 16:48.43 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:48.47 | art3mis | thats my current build |
| 16:48.52 | Stephmw | mjc: I asked what's normal at 61 :) |
| 16:48.53 | chutwig | DirtySanch: simplecombatlog, probably |
| 16:48.53 | Barbanus | DirtySanch, simplecombatlog |
| 16:48.56 | mjc | DirtySanch: simplecombatlog :) |
| 16:48.58 | Thorgard | DirtySanch, SimpleCombatLog. |
| 16:48.58 | abyssichate | Does BigWigs_Timers also work for Karazhan's trash? |
| 16:49.03 | chutwig | somebody else say it |
| 16:49.04 | neenee | art3mis: Mine is mostly the same, though I have points in Shadow Affinity, Healing Focus and Improved Renew |
| 16:49.06 | neenee | bbs now |
| 16:49.16 | kenlyric|work | I took every point that increases damage, then filled out where necessary. |
| 16:49.20 | art3mis | i debated imp renew |
| 16:49.25 | chutwig | abyssichate: bigwigs has some karazhan stuff but it's very beta |
| 16:49.28 | art3mis | but i couldnt bring myself to do it since i dont heal myself while leveling ;P |
| 16:49.36 | weazer | How the hell do you got 48K armor as druid =P |
| 16:49.38 | kenlyric|work | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVG0khZZeMrzMtRhtEo |
| 16:49.47 | Adirelle|work | that's how my current build should end, but I think I'll change it |
| 16:49.50 | Adirelle|work | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mVbGzxgRiuAoVxZ0h |
| 16:49.57 | kenlyric|work | 15% crit means more damage. |
| 16:50.01 | abyssichate | Yeah, I know, I was wondering if that plugin had some time bars for the respawn of trash in Krazhan as well |
| 16:50.10 | Barbanus | weazer, I'm not even sure ... he must have buffs that are like +% armor, or something |
| 16:50.12 | chutwig | the bar would just say "Too soon" |
| 16:50.20 | weazer | yeah |
| 16:50.20 | abyssichate | yes, it spawns insanely fast |
| 16:50.21 | chutwig | and occasionally alternate to say "Why do they even make trash respawn at all?" |
| 16:50.22 | weazer | wicked |
| 16:50.33 | art3mis | why absolution? |
| 16:50.54 | art3mis | ive never udnerstood why shadow priests bother with threat reduction |
| 16:50.56 | kenlyric|work | art3mis: because, I had a point? :) |
| 16:51.10 | kenlyric|work | art3mis: for instances, and I needed a place to spend 3 points. |
| 16:51.11 | art3mis | martyr is so much cooler ;P |
| 16:51.17 | kenlyric|work | and useless. |
| 16:51.23 | art3mis | no way |
| 16:51.27 | art3mis | it trigfgers focus casting |
| 16:51.30 | chutwig | because VE and VT generate absurd amounts of threat |
| 16:51.31 | kenlyric|work | i'm either shielded or fighiting feared mobs. |
| 16:51.32 | art3mis | that stands for 2 mf's |
| 16:51.40 | art3mis | so its good for multis |
| 16:51.47 | weazer | the shadow threat it massive |
| 16:51.53 | art3mis | yup[ |
| 16:51.59 | weazer | disc + shadow talent threat decrease is needed in raids |
| 16:51.59 | art3mis | shadow get the ebst of both world |
| 16:52.08 | art3mis | wicked threat gen from shadow and wicked threat gen from healing ;P |
| 16:52.29 | art3mis | most people are tolerant of me as shadow since ive been it for so long |
| 16:52.36 | kenlyric|work | i went through the tree and took every talent which would increase my damage. Then I filled out with stuff that would help with healing in groups and with my survivability/longevity. |
| 16:52.37 | art3mis | so im rarely the healer in groups |
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| 16:52.39 | CIA-17 | - database will not be purged if nothing is scanned |
| 16:52.42 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r27368 10Mendeleev/MendeleevCats.lua: Mendeleev: Add some outland instances. |
| 16:52.42 | chutwig | with VT now i love shadow priests |
| 16:52.47 | chutwig | i do instances with my shadow priest friend |
| 16:52.50 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 16:52.50 | chutwig | he melts faces and i heal |
| 16:53.10 | art3mis | put a shadow priest with a ToL druid and yer golden |
| 16:53.17 | weazer | theres a +900 spelldmg on my server |
| 16:53.17 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc|Work: any news of CraftBot ? :D |
| 16:53.17 | weazer | one* |
| 16:53.17 | chutwig | he drops out of shadowform for bosses sometimes but usually i prefer him regenning my mana at like 300 mp5 |
| 16:53.20 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle|work: I haven't even logged into WoW this week :P |
| 16:53.24 | arJUna | my guild won't let me raid as shadow =P |
| 16:53.27 | arJUna | f*ck em |
| 16:53.32 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 16:53.39 | weazer | n1 chutwig |
| 16:53.42 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc|Work: any chance to test it ? even alpha ? |
| 16:53.46 | Antiarc|Work | paying work > WoW, I'm afraid. |
| 16:53.56 | Antiarc|Work | Well, it's definitely broken right now. It just needs debugging. |
| 16:53.58 | kenlyric|work | I don't want to be shadow. But when I'm alone at questing, I want stufff to die as fast as possible. |
| 16:54.08 | Antiarc|Work | It's 100% not-working, at the moment |
| 16:54.14 | art3mis | im only at 475 spell/healing without pots food or trinkets |
| 16:54.19 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric|work: you meant kill ? no die ? |
| 16:54.20 | Antiarc|Work | But it'll likely be 100% working once I find a bug or three. :) |
| 16:54.22 | chutwig | weazer: and my mana efficiency as a paladin is already pretty high so i finish trash pulls with almost no mana loss |
| 16:54.27 | art3mis | hehe its actually higher than the level 70 mage in our guild |
| 16:54.30 | chutwig | it's good stuff |
| 16:54.47 | weazer | ftw =P |
| 16:55.00 | art3mis | shadowfiend makes me so happy |
| 16:55.03 | kenlyric|work | I take spell damage over all other stats too... because crit does nothing for my two dots. |
| 16:55.04 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc|Work: actually, I would like to equip our guild crafters with it, to ease everyone's life |
| 16:55.05 | art3mis | so does sw:death |
| 16:55.17 | kenlyric|work | art3mis: just don't use it on a multi-mob pull with sheeps. |
| 16:55.20 | chutwig | i think he has somewhere around +700 damage now |
| 16:55.22 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh, I know, I know. I want to get it out, I just have to, you know, get some WoW time. :D |
| 16:55.24 | chutwig | wtb more damage plate |
| 16:55.24 | art3mis | i love that pw:shield absorbs sw:deah |
| 16:55.25 | kenlyric|work | I found that out the hard way this weekend. |
| 16:55.26 | Arrowmaster | i heard so many people bitching about sw:death before they actually got it |
| 16:55.42 | Antiarc|Work | I'm working on starting a business right now, and that's eating 100% of my free time. |
| 16:55.43 | Adirelle|work | Arrowmaster: so did lots of people with new spells |
| 16:55.43 | art3mis | hahah ken |
| 16:55.45 | kenlyric|work | Arrowmaster: I can now steal tags from hunters and warriors. It's awesome. |
| 16:55.50 | art3mis | yeah ive done that by mistake |
| 16:56.05 | art3mis | fear something death it and it doesnt kill but brings friends back |
| 16:56.09 | Barbanus | There is only 1 thing to be said about shadow priests ... they are a paladins best friend :) |
| 16:56.18 | chutwig | pretty much |
| 16:56.18 | art3mis | they are everyones best friend |
| 16:56.20 | xyu | im' at about 700 +dm |
| 16:56.24 | chutwig | shadow priest + holy paladin = run away fast |
| 16:56.27 | weazer | 70's, is Mass Dispel any worth in raids? |
| 16:56.29 | art3mis | i can sustain 300dps ;P |
| 16:56.38 | art3mis | yes |
| 16:56.38 | durcyn | weazer: yes. |
| 16:56.40 | Barbanus | VE heals = 10% back as mana ... PLUS VT mana... |
| 16:56.41 | xyu | chut, my cousin and i are doing that atm |
| 16:56.41 | art3mis | mass dispel rules |
| 16:56.47 | Barbanus | paladin never runs out of mana |
| 16:56.48 | xyu | he's shadow priest, i'm running holy BE pally |
| 16:56.53 | Arrowmaster | i kept saying sw:death is great because its a shadowburn without a shardcost, just a health cost to a healing class |
| 16:57.02 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 16:57.07 | art3mis | i didnt like it when i read it |
| 16:57.11 | chutwig | schattenwort tod |
| 16:57.16 | art3mis | but once i got it i changed my mind ;P |
| 16:57.19 | Barbanus | Arrowmaster, and in pve, you just get that back from VE healing |
| 16:57.24 | xyu | another cool thing is i have a shaman to powerlevel my paladin. and that pally passive trait when i get healed by outside sources i gain like 200 mana |
| 16:57.24 | Barbanus | so really ... there is no cost |
| 16:57.25 | xyu | is amazing |
| 16:57.25 | art3mis | it sounds like a horrible spell when you read it |
| 16:57.28 | weazer | how much mana does shadowfiend return? |
| 16:57.35 | xyu | so pallly's are very easy to powerlevel |
| 16:57.37 | art3mis | 15 seconds of 300+ mana |
| 16:57.38 | xyu | w/ their damage shield |
| 16:57.41 | xyu | pull a ton of mobs |
| 16:57.44 | kenlyric|work | it's also fun in a conjested area... i can keep spirit tap running nonstop just stealing kill shots. :) |
| 16:57.46 | xyu | let them kill themselves |
| 16:57.47 | art3mis | per second |
| 16:57.54 | art3mis | so about 4k mana or so |
| 16:57.56 | Barbanus | xyu, imagine a shadow priest in pve |
| 16:58.02 | weazer | haha kenlyric|work =P |
| 16:58.02 | Barbanus | every VE tick |
| 16:58.03 | Barbanus | mana |
| 16:58.07 | weazer | frag steal |
| 16:58.14 | xyu | yep |
| 16:58.18 | xyu | its going to be awesome when we're the same level |
| 16:58.19 | art3mis | vt+ve+mf == fun |
| 16:58.21 | kenlyric|work | weazer: I haven't done the math, but it's around 2500 |
| 16:58.22 | xyu | my pally is only level 35 |
| 16:58.25 | art3mis | err +pain |
| 16:58.27 | xyu | his priest is 45 atm :( |
| 16:58.30 | Arrowmaster | just wait till the priests start getting the most KBs in battlegrounds because of it |
| 16:58.34 | xyu | i have to catch up |
| 16:58.42 | kenlyric|work | weazer: the shadowfiend seems to ahve a 1.5 attack speed or so, and does 200-300 damage per hit. |
| 16:58.44 | Barbanus | I did black morass x2, and steamvaults last night on my paladin .. I never had to drink |
| 16:58.46 | Barbanus | never |
| 16:58.51 | mjc | anyone know what the bottom frame is on http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4516/mulligbjrn2nv7.jpg ? |
| 16:58.51 | Barbanus | I was 90% constantly |
| 16:58.52 | weazer | kenlyric|work: aww that much |
| 16:59.00 | art3mis | shadowfiend is the bestest |
| 16:59.02 | Barbanus | its actually a little OP |
| 16:59.10 | kenlyric|work | it's basically a mana potion which does damage :) |
| 16:59.18 | weazer | haha |
| 16:59.23 | Barbanus | kenlyric|work, haha yea |
| 16:59.24 | art3mis | i run around with a bout 1k mana when i grind just cuz i shield ve vt pain wand |
| 16:59.26 | weazer | and a cool looking one |
| 16:59.45 | Barbanus | I gave the shadow priest like 3 stacks of water, cause I wasnt using it |
| 16:59.49 | Barbanus | and he was running out |
| 16:59.52 | Barbanus | he was my battery :P |
| 17:00.00 | kenlyric|work | art3mis: fear is a lot cheaper than shield :) |
| 17:00.07 | weazer | indeed |
| 17:00.16 | art3mis | hehe fear brings back friends ;P |
| 17:00.16 | kenlyric|work | use rank 1 fear and 2-mob kill at all times. |
| 17:00.33 | art3mis | and usually im in a bad place to fear ;P |
| 17:00.34 | kenlyric|work | in instances, sure, but in the world it's very often safe. |
| 17:00.36 | Funkeh` | later |
| 17:00.43 | weazer | holy nova kills mana easy :( |
| 17:00.44 | art3mis | like sneak into bad places to killa mob |
| 17:00.51 | kenlyric|work | just have to pull the right mobs. |
| 17:00.56 | art3mis | if i fear him hell turn a single kill into a 3 mob pull |
| 17:00.58 | kenlyric|work | and you use mind flay to keep one of them under control. |
| 17:00.58 | mjc | holy nova is a joke |
| 17:00.58 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 17:01.05 | art3mis | im bad at it |
| 17:01.07 | art3mis | so i dont |
| 17:01.11 | art3mis | holy nova is great fun |
| 17:01.14 | Antiarc|Work | holy nova isn't that bad. It has its uses. |
| 17:01.19 | art3mis | aoe crappy damage |
| 17:01.21 | art3mis | aoe heal |
| 17:01.22 | mjc | didn't say it wasn't funny! |
| 17:01.25 | art3mis | and no threat at all |
| 17:01.34 | weazer | its funny! |
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| 17:02.04 | kenlyric|work | I do VT pull, SW:P, VT pull, SW:P, VE, fear, mind flay the non-VE mob, then wand them both to death. |
| 17:02.22 | art3mis | thats about me strat without the fear |
| 17:02.33 | Barbanus | smart warlocks shouldnt ever have to worry about them bringing back friends when fearing ... fear, put your finger on your curse of reck key ... if it goes where you dont want .. curse of reck .. then curse it with something else .. and it will run some other random direction. |
| 17:02.36 | kenlyric|work | If i get adds, I shield and do the same to them. |
| 17:02.37 | art3mis | but ive got martyr |
| 17:02.47 | art3mis | so its not a big deal if i get attacked |
| 17:02.52 | mjc | HAHA wizard of oz. can't wait to get there |
| 17:03.05 | art3mis | shower time bbiab |
| 17:03.19 | kenlyric|work | yeah, martyrdom is only nice if they crit you :) |
| 17:03.50 | Proph_ | how do u guys create a macro with something like "KICK landed -- BLAH is next" ? /cast kick /raid "Kick landed -- blah is next? |
| 17:03.58 | Antiarc|Work | You can't do it in a macro. |
| 17:04.07 | Proph_ | how do u do it? |
| 17:04.08 | Gnarfoz | huh? sure you can oO |
| 17:04.15 | mjc | sure you cna antiarc |
| 17:04.17 | Antiarc|Work | You can't check whether a skill landed or not from a macro. |
| 17:04.25 | Antiarc|Work | You can check whether you fired it off or not, sure |
| 17:04.28 | Arrowmaster | an addon parsing the combat log for kick damage |
| 17:04.33 | Antiarc|Work | But you can't report miss/dodge/block/parry from a macro |
| 17:04.38 | Proph_ | any addons that does this?? |
| 17:04.41 | Antiarc|Work | You'll have to do what Arrowmaster said - parse the combat log with an addon. |
| 17:05.18 | Gnarfoz | <DirtySanch> what combat log is used in http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4516/mulligbjrn2nv7.jpg ? <-- heh, one of the paladins healing the druid in that screenshot was actually the guy who opened AQ gates back when he was on my first server -.- |
| 17:06.09 | weazer | Thuring? |
| 17:06.24 | Gnarfoz | Cromila |
| 17:07.06 | Proph_ | are there any addons that can check whether u fired it offor not? possibly some mage addons? |
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| 17:07.29 | weazer | Is Pain Suppression castable on other players than yourself? |
| 17:07.34 | Gnarfoz | if you only want to know if you fired it off, the macro is fine |
| 17:07.47 | Gnarfoz | if you want to know if it actually interrupted anything, you'll have to check the log |
| 17:09.30 | mjc | meh! |
| 17:09.39 | mjc | what bottom frame is used in http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4516/mulligbjrn2nv7.jpg :p |
| 17:10.02 | Barbanus | mjc, uglybars 2.0 |
| 17:10.10 | Amadeo | Yeah, I think Barbanus is right |
| 17:10.16 | sylvanaar | i found it to be rather useful for those multimob pulls that are so frequent |
| 17:10.52 | weazer | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMGzhoZZVMGtMtR0tVo dreambuild |
| 17:11.06 | Barbanus | lets try to figure out the buffs he has... |
| 17:11.25 | weazer | agent Barbanus go find out :P |
| 17:12.04 | Barbanus | hes got a flask, ai, mark, kings, light, thorns, bloodpact, fort, spirit, shadow prot, probably 20 stam food ... |
| 17:12.07 | weazer | Stupid non-ct_buffbar users :( |
| 17:12.21 | Thorgard | Barbanus, the answer is 'way too many' |
| 17:12.34 | Pneumatus | weazer: no spirit tap :< |
| 17:12.36 | neenee | back. |
| 17:12.37 | weazer | lol! |
| 17:12.46 | Barbanus | anyone know what potion buffs those are on the 2nd row? |
| 17:12.48 | neenee | Has anyone here healed as a shadow priest in the Mana Tombs? |
| 17:12.54 | weazer | oooooooooops Pneumatus :) |
| 17:12.56 | Amadeo | I find it really hard to spec a Shadow Priest |
| 17:12.56 | weazer | wrong link |
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| 17:13.03 | Amadeo | all the talents are 5 point talents |
| 17:13.04 | neenee | Amadeo: Howcome? |
| 17:13.09 | neenee | Ah. |
| 17:13.11 | Amadeo | you end up wasting like 90 points in one tree |
| 17:13.11 | neenee | Not all |
| 17:13.12 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:13.19 | Amadeo | ok ok, maybe not 90 ;) |
| 17:13.36 | Pneumatus | druids are kinda the same |
| 17:13.37 | Thorgard | neenee, my wife healed through Botanica and Mechanar as a Shadow Priest. ;P |
| 17:13.38 | Klazar | shadowpriest.com |
| 17:13.44 | sylvanaar | Barbanus CoR-CoEx alternation so few ppl do it even today |
| 17:13.44 | Pneumatus | if you spec feral you pretty much blow all your points in that tree |
| 17:13.49 | Amadeo | neenee: Give me a good Shadow spec for PvP :P |
| 17:13.53 | kenlyric|work | Amadeo: yes, but the points aren't wasted. |
| 17:13.58 | Amadeo | kenlyric|work: You too! |
| 17:14.00 | neenee | Thorgard: Nice. Did she have any out-of-the-ordinary good gear? |
| 17:14.03 | deltron | mjc: that's insane that druid pic you posted |
| 17:14.05 | weazer | Barbanus: prolly a resistance pot.. |
| 17:14.09 | Ordog | as druid you can still heal alot! |
| 17:14.13 | Barbanus | sylvanaar, yea ... its sad really |
| 17:14.15 | neenee | Amadeo: Um.. I rarely pvp, but I think any shadow spec is usable for PvP |
| 17:14.18 | Thorgard | neenee, not at all. Mostly quest rewards, some Tier2. |
| 17:14.18 | kenlyric|work | It's actully pretty easy to spec as a shadow, if you just take the mindset Damage > * |
| 17:14.20 | Ordog | with feral |
| 17:14.22 | Barbanus | sylvanaar, our warlock does it a ton |
| 17:14.33 | kenlyric|work | my trouble now is making a decent disc/holy build for raid healing. |
| 17:14.34 | sylvanaar | resto druids have insane heal outputs |
| 17:14.59 | mjc | deltron: someone else posted it here |
| 17:15.36 | deltron | mjc: guessed so hehe, seeing all the ace mods they used |
| 17:15.45 | Barbanus | deltron, I found it on the wow forums, lol |
| 17:15.49 | deltron | mjc: the frames around chat windows are neat |
| 17:15.53 | deltron | Barbanus: hah nice |
| 17:15.59 | Amadeo | You guys really like those frames? :P |
| 17:16.03 | mjc | deltron: I asked about that, someoen said uglybaras |
| 17:16.04 | Amadeo | Those are the ugliest things I've seen |
| 17:16.14 | Barbanus | Amadeo, agreed. |
| 17:16.16 | Amadeo | mjc: I think that was sarcasm :P |
| 17:16.16 | neenee | Thorgard: Hm. okay, then I think I should be able to do it too in Mana Tombs |
| 17:16.27 | Thorgard | neenee, probably. |
| 17:16.28 | Barbanus | its probably skinner |
| 17:16.29 | Barbanus | or some sort |
| 17:16.51 | neenee | Thorgard: It was very tempting to respec to Holy/Disc this afternoon while thinking about it, but I'll try with Shadow as the respec costs 50g by now |
| 17:17.01 | deltron | heh I really need to take a screen of my UI, it's ugly and cluttered :P |
| 17:17.10 | deltron | still -_- |
| 17:17.12 | Thorgard | neenee, yeah. ;P I burnt a lot of gold respecing back and forth. |
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| 17:19.24 | Amadeo | Does anyone still do Disc/Holy damage specs? |
| 17:19.34 | neenee | Yes |
| 17:19.35 | Amadeo | lolSmite builds? haha |
| 17:19.46 | neenee | Various people do |
| 17:19.49 | sylvanaar | i havent found a good druid hybrid build any feral build without mangle seems gimp, and resto is similar situation but not one talent specificaly |
| 17:20.01 | neenee | Check the Official Smiter thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74308856&sid=1 |
| 17:20.15 | mjc | meh |
| 17:20.32 | mjc | Amadeo: I do like the frame at the bottom of that shot. it's cute. |
| 17:20.38 | mjc | sylvanaar: mangle rocks |
| 17:21.05 | Amadeo | forums won't load :( |
| 17:21.16 | deltron | patch day |
| 17:21.19 | sylvanaar | mjc yeah, i had a build without it at one point, adding it was like night and day |
| 17:21.25 | Amadeo | is there a patch? |
| 17:21.32 | Barbanus | mangle is OP a little, lol |
| 17:21.43 | neenee | my ui: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2278/uizh0.jpg |
| 17:21.44 | sylvanaar | nah |
| 17:21.52 | Barbanus | it crits for more on my 60 druid in greens than a 70 rogue in epics SS does... |
| 17:21.53 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, I think disc/holy is really good for eots |
| 17:21.56 | KarlThePagan | better than shadow |
| 17:22.03 | Amadeo | What's eots? |
| 17:22.08 | KarlThePagan | eye of the storm |
| 17:22.14 | Amadeo | oh |
| 17:22.16 | Amadeo | I haven't been there |
| 17:22.24 | KarlThePagan | feels like ab |
| 17:22.36 | sylvanaar | Barbanus those arent comparing the same things |
| 17:22.54 | Amadeo | I hate to say that the nicest UI I've seen yet was using DUF or something :P Who posted that screenie with the full-models for party members? |
| 17:23.22 | neenee | I always see the full models of my party members. Unless they're standing behind me |
| 17:23.44 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:23.53 | sylvanaar | yeah, eots - use ab strat to win |
| 17:23.57 | Barbanus | sylvanaar same energy cost |
| 17:24.05 | Barbanus | both SS and mangle are 40 energy |
| 17:24.10 | Barbanus | they regen at teh same rate |
| 17:24.18 | Barbanus | how is that not a direct comparison? |
| 17:24.27 | Amadeo | KarlThePagan: Show me the best lolSmite PvP build! |
| 17:24.36 | Barbanus | (talented, of course) |
| 17:24.41 | sylvanaar | because you left out the level of the target mob |
| 17:24.51 | neenee | Hm.. How about http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxgM0hxtbxZfxt0br for Disc/Holy damage/healing |
| 17:24.53 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, for 1v1 dps I assume |
| 17:25.16 | KarlThePagan | neenee, PI is a must have |
| 17:25.18 | sylvanaar | and the ap of each toon |
| 17:25.21 | Barbanus | okay ... let me put it this way ... mangle crits on a 60 mob at 60 with greens for the same amount as SS crits on a 60 mob for a 70 rogue in epics |
| 17:25.25 | Barbanus | better? :P |
| 17:25.45 | neenee | KarlThePagan: What is PI? |
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| 17:25.51 | KarlThePagan | power infusion |
| 17:25.53 | neenee | Ah. |
| 17:25.56 | neenee | Why is it a must have? |
| 17:26.00 | Barbanus | What does your mangle crit for sylvanaar? |
| 17:26.16 | sylvanaar | i hvae seen 1400 |
| 17:26.31 | kenlyric|work | lol. |
| 17:26.31 | neenee | okay. KarlThePagan: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxgM0hxtbpZfxt0br then |
| 17:26.32 | Barbanus | anyone here a rogue that has ever seen a 1400 SS crit? |
| 17:26.40 | chuckg | Current TOC is 20003 right? |
| 17:26.43 | kenlyric|work | Mage Infusion is not a must have. |
| 17:26.48 | neenee | consistent high damage > high crits |
| 17:26.49 | Arrowmaster | my friend is getting close to 2k mangle crits in bear form |
| 17:27.02 | Stealthism | Is there a problem with the wow ace updater 1.7beta4? |
| 17:27.03 | Barbanus | Arrowmaster, heh yea |
| 17:27.04 | chuckg | That's not entirely true Neenee. |
| 17:27.16 | chuckg | It depends a) on the fight and b) the class and c) the gear. |
| 17:27.19 | neenee | Power Infusion, to me, just seems like something people want to see that high crit number |
| 17:27.25 | Barbanus | neenee, depends on if you are talking pve or pvp |
| 17:27.28 | sylvanaar | Stealthism like what |
| 17:27.31 | neenee | chuckg: Well, everything does. |
| 17:27.45 | neenee | Barbanus: Mainly PvE at the moment |
| 17:27.46 | Stealthism | I get an error message saying error 403 Forbidden |
| 17:27.46 | chuckg | Further, if you're talking about a warlock who's spamming shadowbolt, imp shadowbolt up 100% of the time = raped. |
| 17:27.47 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, I woudl say in general the priest smite tree is the hardest to spec but here are some options |
| 17:27.49 | Adirelle|work | i'm off, going back home |
| 17:28.01 | Amadeo | I'm not a Priest anymore, so I haven't kept up with talents |
| 17:28.08 | sylvanaar | change the mirror |
| 17:28.12 | Amadeo | I love my new Warrior build though |
| 17:28.12 | chuckg | If you take that a step further and get a trinket like this little pearl of mine, http://chuckg.org/dump/2007/lightning_capacitor.jpg - it's all over. |
| 17:28.13 | neenee | cya Adirelle |
| 17:29.08 | neenee | Nice, but I won't spec because there's a trinket out there which might make it the spec worthwhile :P |
| 17:29.09 | Stealthism | sylvanaar: Hmm i click the mirror tab and nothing seems to pop up, no dialog to do so? |
| 17:29.32 | Tornhoof | looks funny chuck |
| 17:29.40 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if Fence and KC_Items can work together? |
| 17:29.41 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, neenee - straight up max smite damage - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxRGuh0trtZbAt0bba |
| 17:29.44 | Tornhoof | especially you nuke stuff, and resheep some mob ;) |
| 17:29.45 | chuckg | The trinket? |
| 17:29.47 | kenlyric|work | just remember that joke talent tree where the 41 point shadow talent turns you into a warlock? It's actually true. |
| 17:29.52 | chuckg | The neat thing is this: |
| 17:29.54 | kenlyric|work | dot and fear. |
| 17:29.56 | chuckg | Searing pain critting a rat. |
| 17:29.58 | kenlyric|work | drain life. |
| 17:30.03 | chuckg | Then turnign to a mob and critting it. |
| 17:30.03 | chuckg | =D |
| 17:30.36 | Amadeo | KarlThePagan: What about Surge of Light? |
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| 17:30.50 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, neenee - yea surge of light is next (tho it kinda sucks) |
| 17:30.57 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 17:31.20 | Arrowmaster | chuckg: come back to BL and buy me an epic flying mount |
| 17:31.20 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, neenee - surge of light build - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxRGuh0tMtZbet0bbab |
| 17:31.30 | chuckg | Arrow you're BL? =D |
| 17:31.33 | neenee | KarlThePagan: Hm. I'm not sure about Surge of Light |
| 17:31.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah, im tokrim |
| 17:31.44 | chuckg | Ahh! |
| 17:31.46 | Amadeo | thank ya |
| 17:31.47 | chuckg | Warlock no? |
| 17:31.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 17:31.53 | chuckg | I'm good. |
| 17:31.54 | chuckg | =D |
| 17:31.58 | KarlThePagan | neenee, yea me 2 - currently it's bugged so you can chain proc... gonna get RAPED into a joke |
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| 17:32.13 | KarlThePagan | neenee, I would take it if they let us put 4 points into it for 100% |
| 17:32.16 | chuckg | Arrow: I had so much gold, I bought my mount (#3 on the server) then paid for another guildies. |
| 17:32.20 | chuckg | WHeee. |
| 17:32.25 | neenee | KarlThePagan: Your build is PvP oriented I think? |
| 17:32.28 | chuckg | And still have some left over for my alts. |
| 17:32.37 | KarlThePagan | neenee, well that's what Amadeo was looking for ;) |
| 17:32.39 | Arrowmaster | still about 2k short myself |
| 17:32.42 | neenee | KarlThePagan: oki. |
| 17:32.52 | KarlThePagan | but for group pvp it really depends |
| 17:33.06 | Scre3m | how are you raises the gold for the mounts? |
| 17:33.10 | KarlThePagan | I would probably go surge of light with 3/5 zandalar for AB/AV/EotS |
| 17:33.14 | Scre3m | s/raises/raising/ |
| 17:33.16 | kenlyric|work | I just passed 2600g and finished up netherstorm. |
| 17:33.20 | chuckg | Questing from 60-70 is around 2600 gold. |
| 17:33.25 | chuckg | Easily. |
| 17:33.26 | KarlThePagan | and I'd go 41 disc with reflective shield for arenas and WSG |
| 17:33.32 | chuckg | That was with me DE'ing every green and not vendoring them. |
| 17:33.36 | Scre3m | im at 65 and i have about 1k |
| 17:33.41 | kenlyric|work | It was bout 3500 gold, since I bought my regular mount/riding skill already. |
| 17:33.51 | sylvanaar | Stealthism try changing your ace files path to http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 17:33.55 | kenlyric|work | but, my professions are goldfarming and faction is goldfarming. |
| 17:34.08 | chuckg | I went into BC w/ 11k gold. |
| 17:34.13 | kenlyric|work | Skinning/Herbalism, and I keep *nothing* |
| 17:34.24 | chuckg | That was after buying up every material to go from 0-300 enchanting/jewelcrafting and tailoring. |
| 17:34.25 | Stealthism | sylvanaar: How do i do that? |
| 17:34.43 | sylvanaar | Stealthism preferences |
| 17:34.45 | kenlyric|work | if you update to beta 4, it's an option as one of the mirrors. |
| 17:34.50 | Stealthism | yep jsut found it |
| 17:34.51 | art3mis | sweet |
| 17:35.03 | art3mis | wifey scored free tickets for Evil Dead the musical |
| 17:35.28 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, here is my arena/wsg build - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxxhuhMtbzxZfctZV0xz |
| 17:35.29 | chuckg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifey's_World - that wifey? |
| 17:35.30 | chuckg | D= |
| 17:35.32 | KarlThePagan | yes tri-spec |
| 17:35.33 | Stealthism | sylvanaar: Sorry but the same error occured |
| 17:35.47 | sylvanaar | Stealthism the error is on your end |
| 17:35.49 | KarlThePagan | or... 41 disc |
| 17:35.59 | Stealthism | "Error loading addon list. The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden." |
| 17:36.24 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=73340494&postId=734642879&sid=1#135 <-- hahahaha |
| 17:36.35 | deltron | I wish I had a hunter at 70 |
| 17:36.41 | Stealthism | In Prefrences i ahve "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\" should it have Addons on the end sylvanaar? |
| 17:37.28 | sylvanaar | Stealthism no, the problem is with your connection to the server, something is in between stopping you from connecting |
| 17:37.30 | KarlThePagan | so much easier to spec disc/holy when you understand that Tigole thinks priest dps is a joke |
| 17:37.59 | zebrabutt | servers are down till 11 pacific time today aint it |
| 17:38.21 | KarlThePagan | yar |
| 17:38.27 | kenlyric|work | meh, priest dps. |
| 17:38.30 | Stealthism | sylvanaar: Oh i got a similar error from Msn live when i went to view a video. "Forbidden |
| 17:38.31 | Stealthism | You were denied access because: |
| 17:38.31 | Stealthism | Access denied by access control list. |
| 17:38.32 | KarlThePagan | pretty much |
| 17:38.43 | kenlyric|work | I'm a fairly good shadow priest, but I hate being shadow with a fiery passion. |
| 17:38.43 | Stealthism | would happen to know what is the cause? |
| 17:38.46 | KarlThePagan | i'm staing 41 shadow until I have my flying mount |
| 17:39.11 | KarlThePagan | and every paladin that bitches about helping me heal is on my shitlist... including AL |
| 17:39.34 | sylvanaar | Stealthism could be anything, but your network admin would know |
| 17:39.39 | KarlThePagan | (err epic flying mount) |
| 17:40.18 | Stealthism | =/ |
| 17:40.26 | sbu | hm |
| 17:40.33 | art3mis | heh no not that wifey |
| 17:40.36 | sbu | meh, error in autobar :/ |
| 17:40.40 | art3mis | my wifey refuses to let me tape us ;P |
| 17:41.01 | Gnarfoz | ,jjj |
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| 17:41.04 | Gnarfoz | err. |
| 17:41.09 | Gnarfoz | mhhh =p |
| 17:42.23 | neenee | aargh. I wish choosing disc/holy or shadow was easy |
| 17:42.25 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=NEMrVMfkVtbocxc0I <- I've been playing Warlock since day one, but switched to my rogue later, so I have no clue of the new affliction tree (was destro always) - would this be a good grinding/burning away rested exp spec? don't want to let these rested exp go to waste |
| 17:42.50 | |Kev| | haven't clicked yet |
| 17:42.54 | |Kev| | but you can't go wrong with affil ;) |
| 17:42.55 | neenee | My levelling is done accompanied by a warlock, so I'm not soloing. |
| 17:43.31 | Gnarfoz | I put as many points in stuff that would reduce downtime as possible |
| 17:43.38 | sylvanaar | affliction is the easiest tree to play badly |
| 17:43.52 | chuckg | Fel guard is, in my opinon. |
| 17:43.54 | Gnarfoz | I have no fear of not mastering whatever spec I choose =)) |
| 17:43.55 | chuckg | Send your pet, dot and watch. |
| 17:44.11 | sylvanaar | yeah, i mean affliction is hard to play correctly |
| 17:44.13 | chuckg | Destruction is by far the most active of the specs. |
| 17:44.18 | Gnarfoz | (bigger hp/mana pool, more hp reg from drain life, life tap, mana back by using drain soul, and all that jazz) |
| 17:44.27 | chuckg | But I believe it's the most effective in PVE, though the theorycrafters say otherwise. |
| 17:44.31 | Gnarfoz | destruction <3 |
| 17:44.41 | chuckg | Glass cannon for life. |
| 17:44.57 | RUBiK | can anyone please take a look at my code (http://ace.pastey.net/6106-3nmh) and help tell me what i'm doing wrong with the OnEnable() and the event i have listed there (it never fires.. i have to type "/gdump write" -- which calls same function) and then it saves guild roster... |
| 17:45.15 | Barbanus | hmm, wonder what this will sell for, http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59052 |
| 17:45.23 | RUBiK | should be pretty easy for someone to spot and set me straight.. i'm a lua coding noob.. ): |
| 17:45.29 | |Kev| | Gnarfoz: if it were me, I'd probably swap HoT for CoA |
| 17:45.32 | |Kev| | but that's it :) |
| 17:46.04 | Feldia | assuming the best gear for both destruction and affliction builds, affliction will be more raid dps |
| 17:46.13 | |Kev| | and more fun :) |
| 17:46.25 | Barbanus | Feldia, assuming multiple mobs? |
| 17:46.25 | Feldia | but with the gear the average player has right now, destruction is far better |
| 17:46.35 | Feldia | Barbanus: even single target |
| 17:46.39 | Gnarfoz | I have my old epics from back in the day |
| 17:46.48 | Barbanus | not sure I agree, but I don't have any data to back up my statement :P |
| 17:46.51 | Feldia | but yea, multiple mobs there's zero contest |
| 17:46.58 | Gnarfoz | likely to be replace come level 62 quests or so, from what I saw leveling up my rogue |
| 17:47.00 | Feldia | one of our warlocks crunched the numbers |
| 17:47.06 | Feldia | I don't have the data on hand, but it's what he told me |
| 17:47.11 | Feldia | and he's the best warlock I've ever played with |
| 17:47.15 | Feldia | so I take his word for it :P |
| 17:47.20 | Barbanus | hehe |
| 17:47.45 | Barbanus | the best warlocks I have ever played with are the ones who are smart enough to lifetap every couple spell casts, instead of waiting until they are oom |
| 17:47.54 | Barbanus | but thats just me :P |
| 17:48.00 | Feldia | well |
| 17:48.05 | Gnarfoz | that's what it's for |
| 17:48.07 | Barbanus | <= healer |
| 17:48.07 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 17:48.16 | CIA-17 | 03sutorix * r27371 10FishingAce/FishingAce.toc: FishingAce: Add forum link, prettify title |
| 17:48.19 | Feldia | with afflictino you time it properly to maximize their dps |
| 17:48.30 | Feldia | with destruction I imagine you could just throw it in whenever |
| 17:48.30 | Gnarfoz | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1714640 :\ i guess many of those purple thingies are soon going bye-bye :D |
| 17:48.34 | Feldia | nuke nuke tap nuke nuke tap |
| 17:48.34 | Feldia | etc |
| 17:48.41 | Barbanus | I see so many warlocks lifetap when they are OOM, and then go down to 20% health, and 15 healers heal them, or they take an aoe and die |
| 17:48.44 | sylvanaar | life tapping is crucial to affliction style play |
| 17:48.57 | sbu | meh, autobar's ["MOUNTS_FLYING"] is just a copy from AQ40 mount, so autoselection wont work in outland :/ |
| 17:49.15 | Feldia | Barbanus: sounds more like a fault in healing assignments than in the warlocks tap cycle |
| 17:49.22 | Feldia | he does it in a fashion to maximize his dps |
| 17:49.50 | Barbanus | the fact that a warlock dies cause he lifetaps to 10% health and takes an aoe is the healers fault? haha |
| 17:49.57 | Gnarfoz | sbu, so fix it ;) autobar also thinks it makes sense to have anesthetic poison in the same group as the other instant poisons :\ |
| 17:49.59 | Feldia | you didn't mention dying |
| 17:50.00 | Barbanus | yea, no :P |
| 17:50.10 | Barbanus | "or they take an aoe and die" |
| 17:50.15 | sbu | Gnarfoz: well... no idea how to fix this.. because i dont know how to detect outland zones... |
| 17:50.17 | sylvanaar | or warlocks that tap before a pull, and enter combat with my hot on them, |
| 17:50.23 | Feldia | oh I see |
| 17:50.26 | sbu | AQ is just a single zone - so easy.. |
| 17:50.26 | Barbanus | sylvanaar, rofl, yea. |
| 17:50.30 | mjc | Barbanus: retarded, that |
| 17:50.38 | Feldia | dunno, the only times I see locks tap that low are fights like patchwerk |
| 17:50.44 | Gnarfoz | heh I know how to fix the thing I mentioned, but there's already a comment in the file by the author, NOT to fix it :p |
| 17:50.46 | Barbanus | I've seen is SOOOOOO much on Anub |
| 17:50.49 | Barbanus | I mean ... alot. |
| 17:50.53 | Gnarfoz | sadly, he's rarely around |
| 17:51.29 | Barbanus | yea, patch is a different fight entirely. |
| 17:51.56 | Feldia | I guess they'd do it on instructor as well |
| 17:52.00 | Gnarfoz | we had macros for the locks who wanted to do it that way |
| 17:52.01 | Feldia | but meh |
| 17:52.04 | Feldia | naxx doesn't matter anymore |
| 17:52.21 | Barbanus | heh |
| 17:52.31 | Barbanus | it was a pet peave of mine. |
| 17:52.32 | Gnarfoz | they'd get a rejuv+regrowth and tap against it (or try to, when +heal got more and more) |
| 17:52.39 | sylvanaar | it may not - but i never found better heal gear for druids leveling to 70 |
| 17:52.57 | Feldia | sylvanaar: there are sidegrades at best |
| 17:53.05 | Feldia | a few marginal upgrades in level 70 instances |
| 17:53.13 | Feldia | but nothing worth picking up and re-enchanting, in my experience |
| 17:53.18 | sylvanaar | i still wear 8SR |
| 17:53.32 | Barbanus | bah, ctprofiles needs to get fixed |
| 17:53.33 | mjc | 8SR? |
| 17:53.37 | Feldia | stormrage |
| 17:53.40 | mjc | aah |
| 17:53.55 | sylvanaar | but i am switching to 1xLB as my primary hot |
| 17:53.58 | mjc | I would have got it if you'd said 8/8 SR |
| 17:53.59 | mjc | :P |
| 17:54.16 | CIA-17 | 03chinkuwaila * r27372 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: |
| 17:54.16 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Quests: |
| 17:54.16 | CIA-17 | - updated deDE locals |
| 17:54.19 | Pneumatus | my dragonstalker went in the bin when i could make more sta from items than the 5 piece set bonus |
| 17:54.21 | sylvanaar | so, im dropping to 5/8 |
| 17:54.33 | Gnarfoz | using IE to download firefox just makes me smile to myself a little, each time ;D |
| 17:54.34 | Barbanus | There is some AMAZING paladin healing items at 70 |
| 17:54.36 | Barbanus | Blue stuff |
| 17:54.48 | chuckg | Gnarfoz, change that to Opera! |
| 17:54.49 | chuckg | =D |
| 17:54.51 | Pneumatus | and my xbow is better than nerubian slavemaker |
| 17:55.03 | mjc | opera can blow me |
| 17:55.04 | sylvanaar | 1xLB...after i worked thought it is clearly better than rejuv |
| 17:55.16 | Barbanus | Like, http://www.thottbot.com/?i=59193 and http://www.thottbot.com/?i=60158 |
| 17:55.40 | sylvanaar | i want the staff from the gnome boss in steam vaults |
| 17:57.42 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07PT3 * r27373 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Cache all results, so we only do a set lookup for a item once per session. |
| 17:58.05 | Arrowmaster | is sutorix on irc? |
| 17:58.19 | neenee | *hugs opera* |
| 17:59.02 | neenee | opera can blow him, whereas he wouldn't trust firefox in that way? |
| 17:59.05 | Stephmw | ~seen sutorix |
| 17:59.09 | purl | sutorix <i=Windrunn@nat/microsoft/x-cb7afe4f9fd259fa> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 17h 46m 33s ago, saying: 'Doesn't it move trinkets too?'. |
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| 18:04.58 | kenlyric|work | I use firefox to download firefox, every time. |
| 18:05.08 | kenlyric|work | USB flash drives FTW! |
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| 18:08.51 | mjc | firefox can blow me too |
| 18:09.05 | neenee | ;) |
| 18:09.16 | neenee | I use opera on my flash drive |
| 18:09.24 | dotted | lol i just noticed gmail was removed -.- |
| 18:09.26 | mjc | opera makes me gag |
| 18:10.23 | kenlyric|work | Opera is like firefox for howler monkeys |
| 18:10.30 | CIA-17 | 03tattersail * r27374 10IncomingHeals/Core.lua: |
| 18:10.30 | CIA-17 | IncomingHeals: |
| 18:10.31 | CIA-17 | - Bug fix Core.lua:266 |
| 18:10.44 | Feldia | anyone here use minnastats? |
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| 18:12.25 | NeoTron | so who has done heroic instances yet? |
| 18:13.04 | NeoTron | it definitely makes it a bit more... interesting (if by interesting you mean painful, expensive and slow) |
| 18:13.07 | Daemona | only those needed for tempest keep raid |
| 18:13.29 | Feldia | I've done several |
| 18:13.35 | Feldia | much more fun than regular instancing |
| 18:13.39 | Feldia | though far less forgiving |
| 18:13.40 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r27375 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: |
| 18:13.40 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: |
| 18:13.40 | CIA-17 | - fixed escape trigger 1 |
| 18:13.43 | sdouble | what's it actually do? |
| 18:13.45 | durcyn | heroic shattered halls makes me cringe. |
| 18:13.46 | Feldia | and you need a good group |
| 18:13.51 | Feldia | shattered halls isn't so bad |
| 18:13.54 | NeoTron | makes things kill you fast? :) |
| 18:13.55 | Feldia | try blood furnace |
| 18:13.57 | Feldia | it'll make you cry |
| 18:14.08 | sdouble | well, are they stronger/higherlevel/morehealth/? |
| 18:14.17 | NeoTron | hits harder primarily |
| 18:14.17 | Feldia | all the mobs are 70 elites or higher |
| 18:14.19 | Feldia | and hit much harder |
| 18:14.25 | Feldia | casters are generally pretty weak |
| 18:14.29 | Feldia | and bosses will have a few new abilities |
| 18:14.32 | NeoTron | some stuff has more health but typically that's about the same |
| 18:14.43 | NeoTron | or they will use the abilities more often |
| 18:14.45 | Feldia | the only things that have more health, that I've noticed, are in say ramparts |
| 18:14.53 | NeoTron | well |
| 18:14.55 | Feldia | but that's because mobs get bumped from 62 to 70 |
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| 18:15.07 | NeoTron | in steamvault, the mechanics on the second boss has like 3x the amount of health |
| 18:15.17 | Feldia | hurm |
| 18:15.17 | NeoTron | it quickly became apparent that killing them wasn't viable |
| 18:15.19 | Feldia | they'r eprobably elite then |
| 18:15.23 | NeoTron | nope |
| 18:15.27 | NeoTron | just has more HP |
| 18:15.27 | Feldia | strange |
| 18:15.32 | Feldia | though they are part of a boss encounter |
| 18:15.36 | NeoTron | they are |
| 18:15.36 | Feldia | so that doesn't seem unreasonable |
| 18:15.41 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:15.50 | Feldia | but general rule of thumb |
| 18:15.50 | NeoTron | the dodes before hand are still non-elite with 6k hp... |
| 18:15.51 | Feldia | trash is hard |
| 18:15.52 | NeoTron | but man are they rough |
| 18:15.53 | Feldia | bosses are easy |
| 18:15.59 | NeoTron | they cleave, fire blast, shadow bolts and heals |
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| 18:16.17 | NeoTron | and they come in groups of 8. in normal mode you just aoe them down. |
| 18:16.28 | NeoTron | in heroic mode we very quickly discovered that didn't work |
| 18:16.29 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 18:16.50 | Chinku | hm, does anyone have information on *why* kodewulf withdrew his cartographer modules from svn? |
| 18:16.53 | NeoTron | and bosses are definitely harder althoough they don't seem to do a whole lot more damage overall |
| 18:17.01 | NeoTron | Chinku: he's being a baby |
| 18:17.04 | sdouble | blame Industrial |
| 18:17.08 | sdouble | =P |
| 18:17.22 | kenlyric|work | s/blame/thank/ |
| 18:17.27 | sdouble | heh |
| 18:17.43 | Chinku | NeoTron: hum. I seem to have missed something. sounds ... well ... interesting. |
| 18:17.54 | mjc | Sairen: about? |
| 18:18.05 | NeoTron | can hardly thank someone for making my addons more painful to update now can I? ;-) |
| 18:18.20 | sdouble | and about heroic instances, can all of them be set to heroic? including like rfc/vc |
| 18:18.33 | Feldia | only tbc instances can get set to heroic |
| 18:18.37 | Feldia | and only 5 mans |
| 18:18.46 | NeoTron | heh |
| 18:18.46 | kenlyric|work | NeoTron: yah, I'd probably care more if I found those addons useful. But I don't. |
| 18:18.53 | NeoTron | deadmines on heroic would be painful |
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| 18:18.56 | kenlyric|work | Like if he did Cart_Quests I'd be crying. |
| 18:19.14 | NeoTron | which ones was it? vendors? |
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| 18:19.33 | Chinku | NeoTron: vendors & trainers |
| 18:19.52 | Chinku | btw, did they fix that bug that made the "normal mode" bosses use their "heroic mode" scripts/abilities? |
| 18:19.56 | mjc | ~seen nayala |
| 18:20.24 | purl | nayala <n=pfister@cpe-066-057-016-010.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 383d 13h 8m 15s ago, saying: 'Neat... now to write a logo interpreter in lua.'. |
| 18:20.24 | sdouble | kodewulf * r27274 Cartographer_Trainers/: Removed file/folder kodewulf * r27275 Cartographer_Vendors/: Removed file/folder kodewulf * r27276 School/: Removed file/folder kodewulf * r27278 School-2.0/: Removed file/folder |
| 18:20.33 | sdouble | that's everything I saw |
| 18:22.01 | RUBiK | umm.. where can i download AceDebug-2.0 from? |
| 18:22.11 | sdouble | evidentally that logo interpreter is taking a long time. hehe |
| 18:23.49 | NeoTron | Chinku: afaik it was only one boss that did (the hydra boss) |
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| 18:25.59 | Chinku | NeoTron: ah, I see. word had it that "many" or at least "some" did it. well, obviously rumors then. thanks. |
| 18:28.40 | Funkeh` | Saroz: ping |
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| 18:32.06 | Amadeo | I need more wine tweaks for WoW :( |
| 18:32.11 | Thorgard | Gagorian, ping |
| 18:33.22 | Amadeo | Someone has to know tweaks |
| 18:33.31 | Amadeo | I can't imagine everyone just takes the huge fps hit and lives with it! |
| 18:33.48 | Myrathi | Upgrade your computer. :j |
| 18:34.19 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 18:34.37 | Amadeo | Too many people claim that they run it with the same fps as Windows, or even greater...so I'm determined to at least get close to it |
| 18:34.47 | ckknight | Industrial: in the Cartographer folder, it's not just my modules. The ones that aren't mine include InstanceNotes, POI, InstanceLoot, and Professions. The rest of it may have been hacked heavily by others as well. They're in there to make Cartographer useful, otherwise people wouldn't know how to use it and it'd be pointless. Also by having one big package makes upgrading easy and doesn't allow for major version conflicts. The advanc |
| 18:35.09 | kergoth | Amadeo: i ran faster than windows once.. i havent managed to reproduce that configuration since. |
| 18:35.14 | kergoth | :\ |
| 18:35.20 | ckknight | Industrial: so even if you think adhering to laziness is stupid, I'd prefer people like my brother to actually be able to use it instead of get confused along the way |
| 18:35.21 | Amadeo | :( |
| 18:35.30 | Amadeo | I really, really want to get it running nicely in Linux |
| 18:35.51 | Amadeo | the only tweaks I've found are the typical registry key and running in a seperate X session |
| 18:35.54 | Thorgard | Amadeo, you and everyone else. |
| 18:36.08 | Chinku | could anyone give me a hint on why the format of some files on the svn repo gets changed to 8bit instead of utf-8? is it a feature of svn or just someone intentionally changing it? |
| 18:36.12 | kergoth | hmm, the only rogue talent that affects energy cost of an ability is imp ss right? |
| 18:36.21 | kergoth | Chinku: "8bit"? |
| 18:36.40 | kergoth | 8bit isnt an encoding, to my knowledge |
| 18:36.55 | Chinku | kergoth: mh, "8bit" is what SciTE tells me as format, however different to utf-8 |
| 18:37.05 | mjc | SHiTE ? |
| 18:37.11 | kergoth | sounds like scite's on crack |
| 18:37.24 | Chinku | mjc: definitely not :-) |
| 18:37.30 | mjc | l2emacs |
| 18:37.48 | Myrathi | Eh. UEdit32 ftw. |
| 18:37.48 | mjc | ew. |
| 18:37.50 | Chinku | mjc: i don't need a full OS to edit my files. :-) |
| 18:37.57 | mjc | UEdit is SHiTE in disguise |
| 18:38.04 | Myrathi | Pff. |
| 18:38.09 | Industrial | ckknight: but what about fubar? that doesnt ship with any modules either does it? |
| 18:38.11 | mjc | same engine |
| 18:38.16 | Industrial | ckknight: |
| 18:38.28 | mjc | Chinku: I use it to view pr0n in another buffer |
| 18:38.33 | Saroz | Funkeh` |
| 18:38.34 | Amadeo | emacs is an OS disguised as an editor! |
| 18:38.35 | ckknight | it used to, and it was super easy to handle for newbies |
| 18:38.41 | ckknight | then I moved to a Starter Pack system |
| 18:39.26 | mjc | I think the wowace SVN really needs a cleanup |
| 18:39.34 | mjc | there are 8 million mods taht do the same thing in the list |
| 18:40.10 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27376 10BigWigs/Karazhan/WizardofOz.lua: |
| 18:40.10 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Karazhan/WizardofOz: |
| 18:40.10 | CIA-17 | - cleanup Saroz's commit |
| 18:40.10 | Saroz | aye |
| 18:40.14 | mjc | haha |
| 18:40.16 | Saroz | awww |
| 18:40.18 | Saroz | :| |
| 18:40.23 | neenee | agreed. And some, like ScoreSort are no longer necessary as that function is in the game already. |
| 18:40.31 | Thorgard | 8bit = ISO_8859 |
| 18:40.47 | Funkeh` | Saroz: you sure their hostility is on a timer? im sure i saw a video with them being hostile immidiately |
| 18:40.48 | kergoth | thats a stupid ass name, if it means iso 8859, it should say so |
| 18:40.53 | kergoth | "8bit" is vague at best |
| 18:41.19 | Saroz | Funkeh`, I wiped 8 times on them last night :p |
| 18:41.28 | Saroz | and killed tje,m |
| 18:41.28 | Saroz | them |
| 18:41.37 | Funkeh` | and the timers are exact every time? |
| 18:41.44 | Saroz | ye |
| 18:41.48 | kergoth | GetTalentInfo(2, 2) is imp sinister strike for rogues, right? |
| 18:41.51 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 18:41.52 | Saroz | checked 2 transscripts |
| 18:42.09 | Funkeh` | alrighty |
| 18:43.57 | Chinku | kergoth: ah, ok. if thorgard's right that it means ISO_8859 then I agree :-) |
| 18:44.12 | Thorgard | I'm always right! |
| 18:44.18 | Thorgard | Chinku, hou dar u doubt me!? |
| 18:44.23 | Myrathi | Except when you've left. |
| 18:44.52 | Thorgard | Myrathi, you deserve to be shot. :/ |
| 18:45.07 | Myrathi | My wife tells me that regularly. :P |
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| 18:45.41 | Amadeo | Thorgard is your wife! |
| 18:45.51 | Thorgard | The plot thickens. |
| 18:46.07 | Myrathi | Thorgard did jail time? |
| 18:46.16 | deltron | anyone here try EPGP instead of DKP? |
| 18:46.22 | Thorgard | No comment. |
| 18:47.08 | Industrial | lol I just kited a mob with my Serpent Sting and pet attack, it went back and forward to me and my pet |
| 18:47.22 | Amadeo | Nerf Industrials! |
| 18:47.28 | Industrial | s/to/between/ |
| 18:48.08 | Amadeo | What happened to all the deals on LCD displays? |
| 18:48.13 | Amadeo | They died off |
| 18:48.20 | Amadeo | I guess I said displays twice |
| 18:48.23 | Amadeo | oh well! |
| 18:49.55 | Amadeo | I'm a rebel, so I get away with things like that |
| 18:51.33 | Cyrez | ckknight: I just had an interesting idea... Could the ablity to place spacers be implemented in the FuBar core? Maybe something with fixed sizes that are colored or at least outlined while the bar is unlocked so you can see where they are. I mean, being able to change the spacing is nice but there's some instances where it'd be nice to have that kind of extra flexablity. |
| 18:53.21 | Cyrez | Maybe you have your ammo and durablity and money and stuff in the lower right corner but you might wanna be able to space the ammo and soul shards and regeants and such into one little subgroup slightly off to the side but not right next to it so it's easier to read. |
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| 18:58.25 | oxman_ | Why timex lib is not on svn ? |
| 18:58.34 | kergoth | timex is ace1 and obselete. |
| 18:58.45 | oxman_ | which lib replace it ? |
| 18:58.46 | Saroz | nuuuke |
| 18:58.50 | kergoth | aceevent. |
| 18:59.07 | oxman_ | I can make a timer ? 300 sec then call a function ? |
| 18:59.10 | kergoth | yes. |
| 18:59.14 | oxman | Ok thanks :) |
| 18:59.17 | kergoth | go read the api reference on the wiki |
| 18:59.18 | kergoth | np |
| 19:01.39 | Benumbed | why would acecomm spam the crap out of me when nothing should be being sent? what could i possibly have wrong qq |
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| 19:03.46 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27377 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: correct some typos |
| 19:05.26 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r27378 10kEnergy/tick.lua: |
| 19:05.26 | CIA-17 | kEnergy: fix a bug i noticed.. kEnergy wasn't adjusting its spell cost table for |
| 19:05.26 | CIA-17 | improved sinister strike if the user didn't have it at login, and spent points |
| 19:05.26 | CIA-17 | on it that session. Thanks to sylvanaar's grid commit message about |
| 19:05.26 | CIA-17 | CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED for reminding me :P (drycoded) |
| 19:08.23 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r27379 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: doubleclick->ctrlclick |
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| 19:09.14 | mok | hm.. how can i avoid that error: Cartographer_LookNFeel\LookNFeel.lua:11: AceLocale(Cartographer-LookNFeel): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice. |
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| 19:09.40 | kergoth | sounds like you're running it both standalone lod and embedded in cart |
| 19:09.42 | kergoth | delete one |
| 19:09.45 | mok | it happens for every cartographer module |
| 19:09.53 | mok | ah ok |
| 19:09.58 | mok | yeah can be |
| 19:10.01 | kergoth | sounds like you ran the lod bat file, then updated cart and didnt realize they came back. |
| 19:10.32 | sylvanaar | mok if you were using WAU 1.7b3 update to 1.7b4 there were a few bugs |
| 19:12.12 | Fisker- | Anyone know a good site to test some speeds with? |
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| 19:12.13 | mok | i did, sylvanaar |
| 19:12.30 | mok | erm. i did use 1.7b3 |
| 19:12.36 | sylvanaar | then thats why |
| 19:12.50 | mok | k thanks for the info |
| 19:13.33 | sylvanaar | just upgrade, i think all the known issues have been fixed |
| 19:15.00 | kergoth | haste: did you ever get anywhere with a deadly poison timer? |
| 19:15.14 | kergoth | haste: noticed some folks on the roguespot forums asking about it |
| 19:16.28 | haste | no, I never could be arsed to fix it again when I spec'd out of mutilate :( |
| 19:16.49 | kergoth | aw, guess i'll have to be less lazy and work on it myself |
| 19:16.51 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 19:31.00 | kergoth | anyone remember the name of that little addon thrae did to provide functions to call from macros to silence errors temporarily? |
| 19:32.09 | winkiller | I only know improvederrorframe that sounds rouhgly like that |
| 19:32.15 | oxman | Do you know an event to know when a bene is apply when the bene is already here ? |
| 19:32.17 | winkiller | but no idea bout macros, it just silences stuff at least |
| 19:32.41 | Pneu` | thats the addon you can mash your buttons like a noob rogue while frapsing and people dont know any better isnt it :) |
| 19:32.44 | oxman | COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE / AURA_START not trigged, UNIT_AURA not trigged, PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED not too |
| 19:34.53 | Elkano | \o/ my BC CE has been shipped today |
| 19:36.28 | neenee | woo :) |
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| 19:42.32 | Barbanus | I love tank and spank fights |
| 19:42.55 | Barbanus | "/cast [target=targettarget] Flash of Light" |
| 19:43.06 | Barbanus | put the drinking bird on my keyboard |
| 19:43.08 | Barbanus | walk away |
| 19:43.15 | evl | http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5527/bearformbeatingcopyun2.jpg |
| 19:43.15 | evl | :D |
| 19:43.50 | Barbanus | lol |
| 19:44.36 | neenee | hehe |
| 19:44.37 | neenee | nice |
| 19:44.47 | neenee | Yes, nerf those Horde bears |
| 19:45.59 | Barbanus | "X's Shadowbolt hits you for 5000", nerf hunters |
| 19:46.08 | Barbanus | "X's Shadowbolt hits you for 5000", nerf druids |
| 19:46.18 | deltron | nerf alliance |
| 19:46.20 | kergoth | r25331 (orig r25330): thrae | 2007-01-15 16:29:24 -0700 |
| 19:46.20 | kergoth | SpamIt: Use /script SpamIt_Start() and /script SpamIt_Stop() in macros to start and stop suppressing "Out of energy", "Ability not ready", and "Out of rage" errors in the UIErrorsFrame. |
| 19:46.39 | kergoth | thats what i was looking for, for the curious |
| 19:47.20 | Barbanus | nice |
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| 19:48.33 | kergoth | i love error monster, but there are some errors that occur from macros that i dont want hidden all th etime |
| 19:48.37 | kergoth | so thisll do |
| 19:49.49 | Elkano | Barbanus, that remembers me of my last Strath run. We had a Level 63 WL with us that had some nice +dmg gear and the Baroness decided to posess him. the last think I saw was him turning towards my healing druid :/ |
| 19:52.31 | Barbanus | hehe |
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| 19:53.39 | Barbanus | I used that macro often on C'Thun right after 2.0 came out, was nice for the green beam |
| 19:53.43 | Elkano | but after that we managed to have the tank posessed and the WL perma-feared him ^^ |
| 19:54.24 | Pneu` | i thought everyone knew the trick to not get anyone posessed at baroness |
| 19:54.42 | Fisker- | Anyone got a torrent for the enGB TBC downloader? |
| 19:54.56 | |Kev| | Pneu`: I don't |
| 19:55.10 | Elkano | Fisker, how about Blizzard's? |
| 19:55.18 | |Kev| | Pneu`: what is it? |
| 19:55.24 | Fisker- | How about i'm using linux? |
| 19:55.26 | deltron | I always get posessed by her, and by that first boss in the blood furnace |
| 19:55.27 | Pneu` | if every member of the party hugs a wall (the one on the right as you head down to baroness works well) then no one will get MC |
| 19:56.04 | |Kev| | how strange |
| 19:56.06 | Barbanus | the boss in Shadowlabs that MC's the whole group is retarded |
| 19:56.15 | Barbanus | He MC'd me, and made me holy wrath |
| 19:56.28 | Pneu` | s/retarded/fucking fun/ |
| 19:56.35 | Barbanus | and for those who don't know paladins, its an aoe that affects only undead/demons |
| 19:56.52 | Barbanus | and then he spends 10 secs changing my auras |
| 19:56.55 | Pneu` | that ogre is like the most fun boss i've fought in BC so far |
| 19:56.58 | Barbanus | and then the MC breaks |
| 19:57.09 | deltron | that boss in BF, last 2 times I got MC'd I killed my group members |
| 19:57.19 | Barbanus | and he "MAY" Consecrate once |
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| 19:57.46 | Barbanus | it was actually funny ... hunter would always drop a snake trap .. every time that happened, I'd always consecrate it |
| 20:00.40 | Pneu` | he usually makes me drop explosive traps |
| 20:00.48 | Pneu` | and likes to play around with my aspects |
| 20:01.31 | deltron | aspect of the run fast |
| 20:01.38 | Pneu` | aspect of the dazed |
| 20:01.58 | winkiller | lol |
| 20:02.00 | lhunath | are there any addons left that have the ability to 'scale' healing spells? |
| 20:02.54 | deltron | nope |
| 20:02.58 | lhunath | Hmm, I heard something about there being no more way of performing any logic in combat? |
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| 20:03.27 | JoshBorke | not true, you can perform all the logic you want |
| 20:04.06 | lhunath | for instance, smartbuff claims it cannot properly decide whether or not to buff, and who to buff while in combat because of this. |
| 20:05.26 | JoshBorke | well yea, because while you can perform logic, that logic can't be tied to any actual actions while in combat |
| 20:06.14 | lhunath | so you can do logic, but you cannot perform actions through that logic, you say? Is that limitation also valid for macros? |
| 20:06.27 | Antiarc|Work | Correct. |
| 20:07.00 | JoshBorke | lhunath: no. as long as macros do not get tainted, they can do logical things (within the confines of the macro logic) |
| 20:07.01 | Funkeh` | Maulgar down! onto gruul! |
| 20:07.06 | JoshBorke | grats! |
| 20:10.24 | Daemona | gotta love blizzard |
| 20:10.33 | Daemona | announcing auth-server down |
| 20:10.38 | Daemona | nothing went down |
| 20:10.47 | Daemona | but now instance servers are down |
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| 20:15.06 | Gnarfoz | <@kergoth> hmm, the only rogue talent that affects energy cost of an ability is imp ss right? <-- dirty deeds makes cheap shot and garotte cost 10 less energy for each point spent, 2/2 maximum |
| 20:15.17 | kergoth | oh good point, i forgot about that one |
| 20:15.35 | kergoth | realized kenergy didnt adjust its spell costs when you spent talent points |
| 20:15.41 | Fisker- | Shiv is not a talent but has energy cost based on weapon speed |
| 20:15.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah, saw that |
| 20:15.48 | Gnarfoz | oh yeah, that'll be a bitch, too |
| 20:15.49 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 20:16.02 | kergoth | was hoping to avoid having to rescan the whole spellbook on each talent point spent, for respecing.. |
| 20:16.06 | kergoth | bah, dangit :) |
| 20:16.14 | Gnarfoz | I don't even have that bound to any button, it sits comfortably in my spellbook... I'm not gonna use it anyway :D |
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| 20:21.22 | kergoth | having to track energy usage was annoying, but given the way ticks happen, i couldnt see any other way to properly identify an actual tick |
| 20:21.34 | kergoth | (dont want a 2 charge arcane torrent (20 energy gain) being seen as a tick) |
| 20:22.09 | Tain | Aww Transmeta is exiting the engineering business and is just going to try to license its current designs. |
| 20:22.24 | Elkano | Fisker-, can't find the link to the downloader so I can't extract the torrent, sorry :( |
| 20:22.47 | kergoth | oh well, kenergy wont break encountering unexpected energy losses anyway, its just a matter of wanting it to be accurate.. being able to dump an energy activity log is a useful thing |
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| 20:23.48 | PogoTribal | Sup guys. |
| 20:24.15 | kergoth | hey |
| 20:24.19 | PogoTribal | Is there any way to make QuestsFu not appear over all the game windows? |
| 20:24.25 | PogoTribal | A quick edit of some sort? |
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| 20:25.12 | Klazar | drag it 2 where you want it and lock it |
| 20:25.16 | PogoTribal | It's starting to hamper my UI, especially since it's covering bags mostly |
| 20:25.40 | PogoTribal | no Klazar, it's appearing over everything, there's no place on the screen where it won't be over a window of some sort. |
| 20:26.04 | PogoTribal | For instance if all my bags are open and I'm at the auction house. |
| 20:28.07 | Klazar | how bout just unchecking the quest that are showing |
| 20:29.33 | Klazar | ive sized and postioned mine so it shows next to the minimap inthe upperright hand corner and only shows quests for the zone im in |
| 20:33.57 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r27380 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: I give up, just scan the damn spellbook on each CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED. I don't feel like trying to account for each and every talent manually. |
| 20:34.22 | Daemona | anyone here using wowhead client and can run a netstat when uploading data for me? my nameserver doesnt want to resolve the destination and i dont even see the connection because its not establish, so if anyone could help me out with the dns-name the client connects to? :X |
| 20:35.04 | Gnarfoz | it only connects when it has new data anyway, can't help you right now |
| 20:35.05 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:35.13 | Fisker- | let the hate flow through you kergoth |
| 20:35.15 | Fisker- | what about shiv then? |
| 20:36.35 | kergoth | shiv wont break the addon as is due to the amount of energy it uses, it should never interfere with our tick detection, but i'll likely fix it anyway. i like having an accurate energy log available |
| 20:36.58 | kergoth | anyone know the formula for weapon speed -> shiv energy use offhand ;) |
| 20:37.28 | Daemona | 2.4 is 44 energy |
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| 20:37.35 | Daemona | thats what i know |
| 20:37.38 | Daemona | but cant log in atm |
| 20:37.42 | kergoth | good to know, thanks |
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| 20:38.08 | kergoth | you have a 2.4 speed offhand? wowie |
| 20:38.34 | Gnarfoz | i'll look up how much energy it costs for my offhand, gimme a sec |
| 20:38.54 | kergoth | thanks :) |
| 20:39.36 | Famex | how can you disable the blizz quest tracker permanent? Now I have the Quest Fu tracker and blizz tracker both and its way to much info...Some one familiar with this? |
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| 20:41.26 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: 1.6 = 36, 2.5 = 45, 2.2 = 42, 2.6 = 46 |
| 20:41.54 | Daemona | seems like 1 energy per .1 speed |
| 20:41.54 | mjc | whatever happened to School ? |
| 20:42.08 | kergoth | mjc: he got pissy and removed all his addons from the svn |
| 20:42.09 | kergoth | dunno why |
| 20:42.14 | mjc | lame. |
| 20:42.25 | shieldb | Famex, you might check your questfu options - recently it added an option to automatically add items to the questtracker when you get new quests, change to a zone/subzone where you have a quest, or have updated quest objectives (like going from 2/10 -> 3/10 monster eyeballs) |
| 20:43.28 | shieldb | QuestFu should suppress the blizzard tracker though - again this should be in the questfu options |
| 20:44.41 | Famex | its correct that when i enter a zone where i have a quest that the blizz tracker pops up automaticly |
| 20:45.57 | Famex | but cant find the option to disable it, do you know whats its called? |
| 20:46.37 | Daemona | kergoth -> http://www.wowwiki.com/Shiv |
| 20:48.08 | Famex | is it auto quest watch->subzone |
| 20:48.17 | shieldb | Famex, should be something like QuestFu -> Auto Quest Watch -> Stuff in there |
| 20:48.23 | shieldb | yeah |
| 20:48.29 | ravagernl | show world odisplay world pvp objectives under automatic quest tracking |
| 20:48.34 | Famex | hehe found it, thank you very much |
| 20:49.29 | shieldb | yeah having that on by default was really obnoxious when I first started to fly around shadowmoon with a few quests in my log because I never use the quest tracker, so it was in a really bad spot for me |
| 20:52.36 | *** join/#wowace moonsorrow (n=eagle@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-070.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 20:57.51 | Daemona | wanna know the perfect reason for coding idiot proof addons? -> http://ace.pastey.net/6110 |
| 20:58.29 | kenlyric|work | idiots are surprisingly clever, just not in useful ways. |
| 20:59.38 | kenlyric|work | and, that link isn't a good reason to code idiot-proof software. They might actually use it then. |
| 21:00.37 | *** join/#wowace Pneumatus (i=WiN@gandalf.g33k0r.org) |
| 21:02.01 | Elkano | sometimes I hope that they also do not know how to reproduce :/ |
| 21:02.42 | kenlyric|work | no, unfortunately that's biological. |
| 21:03.37 | kenlyric|work | they actually breed faster than us. |
| 21:03.41 | Elkano | well, they could hurt themselves irrepairable by trying ;) |
| 21:04.00 | kenlyric|work | this is why the darwin award is so important, it removes them from the gene pool before they can breed. |
| 21:04.16 | ckknight | why won't people learn to spell? |
| 21:04.22 | Saroz | Anyone know when curator does Astral Deconstruction? |
| 21:04.40 | RUBiK | if i want an addon to gather some data and output to SV\MyAddon.lua on client exit, what event should i trigger the data gathering and saving onto? |
| 21:04.54 | RUBiK | like PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD or something? |
| 21:05.01 | Elkano | ck, in case you mean me, I'm not native so bare with me ;) |
| 21:05.08 | kenlyric|work | ckknight: I don't have ne idea. |
| 21:06.08 | *** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-10874ap.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:06.40 | Arrowmaster | RUBiK: i think theres a PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 21:06.41 | Fisker- | Anyone know a server pretty much garuanteed to have a speed of atleast 100Mbit which has some sort of testfile i can download? |
| 21:07.05 | RUBiK | Arrowmaster: cool.. looking in wiki.. but just to make sure.. that'd still run my code before exiting if i call a function on the event, right? |
| 21:07.12 | shieldb | Fisker-, http://www.dslreports.com/stest ? |
| 21:07.21 | Elkano | kenlyric|work, that's also a reason why I don't understand thos cristians... Jesus said sth like "blessed are the mental poor since they own heaven" so why should we want to go to heaven? To live with them until eternity? |
| 21:08.05 | kenlyric|work | that's not the translation I know. |
| 21:08.11 | Elkano | Fisker-, you could try some university sites |
| 21:08.12 | kenlyric|work | let's see.. I know blessed are the meek. |
| 21:08.18 | kenlyric|work | And blessed are the Cheesmakers |
| 21:08.35 | Arrowmaster | RUBiK: not sure but you can always try it |
| 21:08.48 | RUBiK | yup.. will do.. thx |
| 21:08.52 | Elkano | kenlyric|work, well, as I said I'm not native English so I had to improvise ;) |
| 21:09.51 | kenlyric|work | Elkano: it's actually Blessed are the poor in *spirit* |
| 21:10.02 | Fisker- | that server sucked :P |
| 21:10.04 | Fisker- | new one then |
| 21:10.09 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: im guessing you wont mind if i make an addon based on friendsfu/guildfu in looks and usability |
| 21:10.21 | Tornhoof | university debian mirror or something fisker |
| 21:10.35 | kenlyric|work | Arrowmaster: tie it in with Altnames in Prat, ok? |
| 21:10.36 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, no, I'll just hunt you to death ;) |
| 21:11.47 | Arrowmaster | was going to make a FuBar_RaidInfoFu with similar looks to your mods |
| 21:12.20 | Arrowmaster | for keeping track of raidlocks |
| 21:12.28 | Fisker- | now that's fast |
| 21:12.33 | Fisker- | 50MB/s |
| 21:13.04 | Fisker- | Although linux probably has inbuilt resume support so it was probably that :D |
| 21:17.09 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r27381 10kEnergy/ (Libs/ kEnergy.toc tick.lua): kEnergy: attempt to predict shiv's energy usage for the energy tracking. |
| 21:17.12 | kergoth | (drycode) |
| 21:17.25 | Fisker- | (outrageous) |
| 21:17.29 | kergoth | (hehe) |
| 21:17.30 | RUBiK | cool.. PLAYER_LOGOUT event works for saving table once per session, right before logout |
| 21:18.28 | RUBiK | does table.sort() function sort all the keys recursively or can i call it for a particular table array within the main DB table if i want my keys sorted? |
| 21:18.37 | kergoth | it sorts one table. |
| 21:18.41 | Elkano | RUBiK, but it won't work for anything that has to be sent to the server |
| 21:18.42 | kergoth | no recursion |
| 21:19.13 | Elkano | and it doesn't sort keys but date, does it? |
| 21:19.23 | Elkano | -date +data |
| 21:19.39 | RUBiK | so if i want my toons() array to be sorted and it's under GuildDumpDB.profiles.Default.toons(), can i call table.sort(GuildDumpDB.profiles.Default.toons)? |
| 21:19.40 | kergoth | sorting keys is impossible given the data structures involved |
| 21:19.45 | RUBiK | oh crap.. no keys |
| 21:20.30 | kergoth | no keys? |
| 21:20.36 | kergoth | what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 21:20.41 | RUBiK | so i can't sort the toons() table here? GuildDumpDB = { |
| 21:20.41 | RUBiK | ["profiles"] = { |
| 21:20.41 | RUBiK | ["Default"] = { |
| 21:20.41 | RUBiK | ["asof_date"] = "20070205231253", |
| 21:20.41 | RUBiK | ["num_toons"] = 333, |
| 21:20.43 | RUBiK | ["toons"] = { |
| 21:20.45 | RUBiK | ["Hitotsu"] = "60|Hunter|511200|Baritt - Eng / Mining", |
| 21:20.48 | RUBiK | ["Chewster"] = "13|Druid|662400|Ammanas", |
| 21:20.51 | RUBiK | ["Ketamine"] = "60|Rogue|302400|Rathzil", |
| 21:20.53 | RUBiK | ["Ammanas"] = "70|Mage|3600|Main - Mining / Alchemy", |
| 21:20.55 | RUBiK | ["Ruthen"] = "35|Mage|4658400|Dralzen - ", |
| 21:20.56 | Funkeh` | OI |
| 21:20.56 | haste | oh joy, what about using a pastebin? |
| 21:20.57 | Daemona | goddamn RUBiK |
| 21:20.57 | Funkeh` | stop it |
| 21:20.58 | RUBiK | ["Zarimundia"] = "50|Mage|201600|Vanaddaria - Herbalism - Alchem", |
| 21:21.00 | RUBiK | ["Runningbear"] = "63|Druid|7200|Main - Alch / Herb", |
| 21:21.03 | Funkeh` | STOP IT |
| 21:21.03 | RUBiK | ["Heniest"] = "67|Priest|10800|Main - Alch / herb", |
| 21:21.05 | RUBiK | ["Lisander"] = "64|Hunter|244800|Main - DS LW / Skinner", |
| 21:21.07 | *** kick/#wowace [RUBiK!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (spam is bad, go away) |
| 21:21.07 | Funkeh` | use ace.pastey.net |
| 21:21.12 | *** join/#wowace RUBiK (n=rubik@cpe-76-167-55-89.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:21.18 | Daemona | ace.pastey.net RUBiK |
| 21:21.20 | Daemona | ... |
| 21:21.21 | RUBiK | did not mean to spam.. i'm very very sorry all |
| 21:21.22 | kergoth | do not paste more than 4 lines in this channel |
| 21:21.29 | kergoth | or any other channel on freenode, really |
| 21:21.39 | RUBiK | i know.. i am very sorry (again).. meant to paste url, not junk |
| 21:21.47 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 21:21.49 | RUBiK | wrong clipboard.. ): |
| 21:22.22 | Elkano | RUBiK, you'll most likely have to insert the keys in a new table, sort thatone and then acces your data in order |
| 21:23.14 | RUBiK | i mean to paste this: http://serar.com/eols/GuildDump.lua (i'm trying to sort the 'toons' table) |
| 21:23.19 | kergoth | any friendly rogues with shiv want to test kenergy with it? you'll want to enable debugging at debuglevel 2 or higher and see if it captures the shiv as such in the energy log, or if it says it was unanticipated |
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| 21:24.05 | Elkano | and you can't sort a hash by keys in order to have them stored in order in your SV file |
| 21:24.19 | Mikma | Elkano: how's ebb2 going? |
| 21:24.34 | haste | I would like to help, but my account is currently frozen :( |
| 21:24.34 | Elkano | slow ;) |
| 21:24.42 | Mikma | haste: noob |
| 21:24.51 | RUBiK | if i had used table.insert, would it have kept the keys ordered if my loop had the names alpha ordered? |
| 21:24.59 | Elkano | got to finish some trust stuff first ;) |
| 21:25.01 | haste | Mikma: clearly |
| 21:25.22 | Elkano | with table.insert you'll get an array with numeric keys |
| 21:25.38 | Mikma | haste: perfect time to drycode shit |
| 21:25.52 | haste | I'm poking C! |
| 21:25.55 | haste | perfect time for that |
| 21:25.57 | RUBiK | hmm.. that could work.. i'd have the toon name as part of the string instead.. and it'd be sorted |
| 21:26.17 | Elkano | yes |
| 21:26.36 | RUBiK | oh.. except there's no more number keys being saved |
| 21:26.47 | Elkano | if you table.insert in order it will stay ordered as long as you don't table["key"] = data |
| 21:26.48 | RUBiK | as of new blizz code recently.. right? 2.0.6 or something? |
| 21:27.08 | Elkano | did before but is now stored more efficient |
| 21:27.18 | RUBiK | it'll just have a list of my strings.. with no more number indexes |
| 21:27.34 | RUBiK | ok, cool.. will mess with it.. thanks |
| 21:27.55 | Elkano | you're welcome. I'm payed for helping... |
| 21:28.01 | RUBiK | (: |
| 21:28.03 | Elkano | ... or wait, I'm not :/ |
| 21:28.50 | Elkano | the community should stort donating in order to pay my account ;) |
| 21:29.29 | nevcairiel | finally, some free time again :D |
| 21:29.32 | kergoth | am i missing something, or is there no option in the profile page on roguespot to add a signature? |
| 21:30.05 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i just posted a transcript of netherspite in the karazhan thread, let me know if you need something else for a module |
| 21:37.33 | Gnarfoz | <Funkeh`> STOP IT <- heh, telling people that won't help if they are already floodpasting - their connection is lagged out already and they won't see what you write anyway (or be able to stop their pasting ^^) |
| 21:38.18 | nevcairiel | you generally see what others tell you |
| 21:38.21 | nevcairiel | but you cannot stop it :D |
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| 21:41.38 | Amadeo | Well, I think it's time to finally start a Druid |
| 21:41.50 | Amadeo | I just can't pass up being so overpowered for a while |
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| 21:42.14 | RUBiK | ... until they nerf druids next patch.. heh |
| 21:42.21 | Amadeo | Won't happen |
| 21:42.38 | Amadeo | They just posted they're giving them epic flight form now |
| 21:42.49 | Amadeo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74727492&sid=1 |
| 21:42.49 | RUBiK | whoa |
| 21:43.56 | RUBiK | hmm.. so still have to pay for epic flying *skill* |
| 21:44.27 | Amadeo | Yeah, but being able to shift into it is the amazing part |
| 21:44.31 | Amadeo | not having to actually mount |
| 21:44.45 | RUBiK | hopefully it's not a flying moonkin looking thing |
| 21:44.54 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:45.00 | RUBiK | You gain Owl from. |
| 21:45.06 | RUBiK | s/from/form |
| 21:45.07 | Kemayo | PogoTribal: Right-click on the questsfu tracker or detail window, whichever one is bothering you, and adjust the frame strata. (Due to a Tablet limitation the change won't take effect until you reload your UI.) |
| 21:45.55 | gxam | no |
| 21:46.09 | kergoth | aw :) |
| 21:46.15 | gxam | yeah |
| 21:46.16 | kergoth | i'd be rolling a rogue tonight if they could |
| 21:46.17 | gxam | much sadness |
| 21:46.19 | kergoth | er, druid |
| 21:46.21 | kergoth | silly fingers |
| 21:46.56 | Kemayo | I should make that more obvious, I guess. |
| 21:47.36 | Amadeo | kergoth: I'm going to be! Horde! Tauren > NE for Druids! |
| 21:47.47 | durcyn | they can assist on summoning portals in flight form, at least |
| 21:47.52 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 21:48.22 | Amadeo | they should give portal summoning to Druids anyway |
| 21:48.54 | Amadeo | every skill in the game, so no other class is needed |
| 21:48.56 | Amadeo | Just Druids! |
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| 21:49.41 | kergoth | http://indexed.blogspot.com/2007/01/were-all-going-to-hell.html is funny |
| 21:49.50 | Kemayo | I once persuaded a guildie that Blizzard was going to remove Hunters from the game, replacing them with a new Warlock pet. >_> |
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| 21:50.42 | CIA-17 | 03nebelmond * r27382 10OptiTaunt/OptiTaunt.lua: |
| 21:50.42 | CIA-17 | OptiTaunt: |
| 21:50.42 | CIA-17 | - fixed typo in line 212 and 222 |
| 21:50.51 | durcyn | Kemayo: what's a hunter? |
| 21:51.11 | durcyn | swear to god, there better not be any more tranq shot bosses out there, we have one left on our raid roster |
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| 21:58.17 | Myrathi | They should make it so you only need one hunter, and give them a new skill "Rotary Qranq Shot". :P |
| 21:58.29 | Myrathi | Tranq* even |
| 21:58.45 | Myrathi | Q and T. They're, like, right beside each other. ¬_¬ |
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| 22:03.51 | Pneumatus | ive already found 1 boss and 1 mob that frenzies in instances |
| 22:10.29 | Amadeo | I'm downloading DAoC trial, haha |
| 22:10.38 | Fisker- | I just shat bricks |
| 22:11.07 | Fisker- | Thought my host was shutting me down because i had used in excess of 200MB in an hour on my new webserver :P |
| 22:11.17 | Fisker- | (Got 1TB monthly bandwitdh) |
| 22:14.12 | ckknight | http://bash.org/?720258 |
| 22:14.31 | Iceroth | -30C |
| 22:14.36 | Iceroth | i'm fucking freezing |
| 22:14.46 | ckknight | Iceroth: where you at? |
| 22:14.50 | Iceroth | finland |
| 22:14.56 | ckknight | my uncle's at -40ºC |
| 22:15.02 | ckknight | that's in Canada |
| 22:15.42 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r27383 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (QuestsFu.lua QuestsFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: (Drycoded) Add options to the main plugin menu to change the strata of the tracker and detail tablets, and to lock/unlock them. |
| 22:16.16 | Amadeo | what cvs app do people use in windows? |
| 22:16.23 | ckknight | we use svn |
| 22:16.42 | Amadeo | You can use SVN for CVS? |
| 22:17.10 | ckknight | no, just refuse to use cvs |
| 22:17.15 | ckknight | alternatively, use command-line |
| 22:17.23 | Amadeo | it's not for WoW stuff |
| 22:17.34 | ckknight | so use command-line |
| 22:17.56 | Amadeo | I have to find where to get it |
| 22:18.08 | Pneumatus | tortoise cvs for a client |
| 22:18.10 | ckknight | google knows all |
| 22:18.16 | Fisker- | Google knows shit |
| 22:18.25 | NightHawkTheSane | shit is a subset of all. :P |
| 22:18.30 | Amadeo | Pneumatus: Thank ya |
| 22:18.38 | Amadeo | Google shows CVS Pharmacy :P |
| 22:18.54 | ckknight | so you look up cvs client |
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| 22:19.20 | NightHawkTheSane | or "concurrent versioning system"? or "cvs version control" or any number of slightly more intelligent search queries :P |
| 22:19.26 | Amadeo | Yeah, which puts me back at square one... :) |
| 22:20.00 | deltron | i love how there's a cvs/svn wrapper for scite |
| 22:20.02 | deltron | it's ftw |
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| 22:20.11 | Amadeo | Anyone know what x86-woe is? |
| 22:20.22 | Fisker- | or apt-get install cvs loooooool |
| 22:20.55 | Amadeo | I would be able to do that if WoW ran well in Ubuntu for me :) |
| 22:20.59 | Amadeo | but I'm in Windows since I was playing a bit ago |
| 22:21.03 | Pneumatus | yum install cvs |
| 22:21.13 | Cyrez | As I understand it, SVN was made because CVS was lacking in certain features. |
| 22:21.29 | ckknight | right, cynyr |
| 22:21.32 | ckknight | Cyrez* |
| 22:21.37 | Cyrez | ^^ |
| 22:22.08 | winkiller | mostly, but not only. |
| 22:22.12 | Pneumatus | well the main difference is cvs revisions each file separately, svn revisions describe the state of the whole repo at any one time |
| 22:22.30 | winkiller | it's also said that it fixes some annoyances, that aren't considered bugs or lacking features |
| 22:22.31 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, google "wincvs" |
| 22:22.46 | winkiller | and of course there are always ways to alternatives :P |
| 22:23.03 | winkiller | tortoisecvs is also nice |
| 22:23.13 | KarlThePagan | I don't totally love wincvs but it works pretty well |
| 22:23.24 | KarlThePagan | I know it a little better than I know tortoise ;) |
| 22:23.45 | deltron | http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/scite/cvsWrapper.php <-- <3 |
| 22:23.52 | winkiller | I've never had to know anything. rightclick->checkout/add/commit :) |
| 22:24.04 | KarlThePagan | auto commit is OF THE DEVIL |
| 22:24.21 | KarlThePagan | winkiller, I have to tag/branch/diff regularly |
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| 22:24.31 | winkiller | shoo, be gone devil! |
| 22:24.37 | winkiller | I've always hated that in cvs. |
| 22:24.46 | winkiller | I only use the commandline.. and the manual |
| 22:24.53 | winkiller | ok,n not for diff :) |
| 22:25.31 | deltron | ok going home |
| 22:25.34 | KarlThePagan | yea, wincvs is good enough to expose almost every command line option in a UI |
| 22:25.45 | KarlThePagan | tortoise doesn't quite do that... or it's not intuitive |
| 22:26.07 | winkiller | yeah, fair enough, but I don't branch. |
| 22:26.29 | winkiller | or..last time I did my colleagues ignored it and still used trunk :/ |
| 22:27.05 | KarlThePagan | if you're the release manager that's probably a good thing |
| 22:27.40 | winkiller | not exactly :P |
| 22:28.24 | KarlThePagan | I remember a nice quip from "practices of an agile developer" - if you're the best team member the clock is ticking for you to find a new team |
| 22:28.44 | winkiller | lol |
| 22:28.44 | KarlThePagan | in the context of some musicial quipping about being the best player in a band |
| 22:28.59 | KarlThePagan | *musician |
| 22:29.14 | winkiller | didn't read that |
| 22:29.54 | Myrathi | Amadeo: WinCVS. It's on sourceforge. |
| 22:30.23 | Myrathi | Amadeo: And pick up PuTTy too, if you don't have it already. Plenty of dox online to describe how to set them up to work together, last I checked. |
| 22:31.32 | Myrathi | Holy crap. I typed that about 5 minutes ago. O_o |
| 22:31.44 | RUBiK | lag ftw |
| 22:31.51 | Myrathi | Time to reconnect, heh. |
| 22:31.57 | RUBiK | who said they were cold? you might enjoy this: http://www.rense.com/general75/thinkc.htm |
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| 22:36.48 | Amadeo | thanks for the infos :) |
| 22:36.58 | Amadeo | PuTTy rocks |
| 22:37.06 | ckknight | RUBiK: :-) |
| 22:37.49 | Amadeo | those pics are awesome |
| 22:37.51 | Amadeo | I'd like to live there |
| 22:38.06 | Amadeo | "Sorry, can't come into work...car is a block of ice" |
| 22:38.10 | RUBiK | haha.. yup |
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| 22:39.07 | Amadeo | I like snow, actually |
| 22:39.11 | Amadeo | I'd rather live where it's cold |
| 22:41.52 | winkiller | anyone ever tried a Razer Tarantula? |
| 22:41.56 | CIA-17 | 03mok * r27384 10GemList/GemList.lua: |
| 22:41.56 | CIA-17 | GemList: |
| 22:41.56 | CIA-17 | - added quick hack to allow manual inserting of gems (Star of Elune) /glist insert [link] |
| 22:43.09 | Kemayo | Myrathi: Your quit message is too long -- it gets cut off at "(formerly of". :D |
| 22:44.17 | winkiller | I demand proof. go quit :) |
| 22:44.35 | winkiller | can anyone tell me a good reason for a KoS mod? |
| 22:45.47 | Myrathi | Yeah. My exit file is huge. Trying to find that line, 'cause I'm curious how it ended :P |
| 22:46.43 | Myrathi | Hah. => The Department of Homeland Security, of which TSA is a part, now has a Privacy Officer, Ms. Nuala O'Connor Kelly (formerly of DoubleClick). |
| 22:48.25 | RUBiK | anyone know if ColaLight has an option to show sell price for a stack of X items? (vs. showing price ea. as it is by default)? |
| 22:48.40 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r27385 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/Junk.lua Skinner.toc): Skinner: Skinned Junk |
| 22:53.07 | *** part/#wowace Wing87 (n=Wing@c83-254-245-200.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:58.05 | RUBiK | duh.. colalight has option to show stacks.. '/cl stacks' toggles, it looks like |
| 23:03.56 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r27386 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 23:03.57 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:03.57 | CIA-17 | - deDE Update |
| 23:04.13 | CIA-17 | 03treebar * r27387 10ElectrofluxTextronator/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:04.13 | CIA-17 | ElectrofluxTextronator: |
| 23:04.13 | CIA-17 | - Initial upload |
| 23:07.11 | CIA-17 | 03treebar * r27388 10ElectrofluxTextronator/ (. ElectrofluxTextronator.toc): |
| 23:07.11 | CIA-17 | ElectrofluxTextronator |
| 23:07.11 | CIA-17 | - Added libraries |
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| 23:09.08 | *** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@168-103-200-247.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 23:11.18 | Iceroth | hey, what was that simple addon that displayed my current dps? |
| 23:11.25 | Iceroth | some fubar plugin iirc |
| 23:12.25 | kergoth | fubar_dps? |
| 23:12.34 | kergoth | totally unexpected name, no? |
| 23:12.38 | *** join/#wowace Barbanus (n=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com) |
| 23:12.42 | lhunath | sylvanaar: about those invite links inviting a player whose name is after the invite word; could you not just make the invite link always link the word invite, and the word following the invite word? Like 'invite cia-17 please' -> '[invite cia-17] please'; then when the link is clicked do a who on the word following invite and if there is more than one result, show the who frame, if one result, invite the target. |
| 23:13.18 | CIA-17 | 03treebar * r27389 10/tags/ElectrofluxTextronator/: Created folder remotely |
| 23:13.35 | CIA-17 | 03treebar 071.0 * r27390 10ElectrofluxTextronator/: |
| 23:13.35 | CIA-17 | ElectrofluxTextronator |
| 23:13.35 | CIA-17 | - |
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| 23:22.31 | ckknight | what's ElectrofluxTextronator? |
| 23:22.40 | RUBiK | was just reading about it |
| 23:22.56 | RUBiK | viewport/xArt thingy, looks like |
| 23:22.57 | ravagernl | sort of xart addon |
| 23:22.59 | Pneumatus | AHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:23.09 | Pneumatus | bigbadwolf encounter seriously needs benny hill music playing to it |
| 23:23.30 | nymbia | the opera encounters are pretty awesome |
| 23:23.52 | nymbia | did wizard of oz last week, great fun. |
| 23:24.46 | Pneumatus | we wiped on wizard of oz and got bbw on the next attempt |
| 23:25.02 | ravagernl | hmm, interesting code in that addon |
| 23:25.12 | kergoth | i need a new job/career |
| 23:25.36 | Tornhoof | me too |
| 23:26.18 | kergoth | i also want the time to be able to actually play wow |
| 23:26.24 | Pneumatus | i hate the respawn times in kaz :< |
| 23:26.34 | ravagernl | why self.frame:SetScale(UIParent:GetWidth()/1920) and not self.frame:SetScale(UIParent:GetWidth()/2048) ? 4 |
| 23:26.36 | RUBiK | i just want a wife that doesn't hate WoW or me playing it (casually, might i add) |
| 23:26.57 | *** part/#wowace Beor- (n=opera@178.81-166-220.customer.lyse.net) |
| 23:27.04 | RUBiK | err.. nevermind..:P |
| 23:27.38 | ravagernl | ~seen treebar |
| 23:28.06 | purl | ravagernl: i haven't seen 'treebar' |
| 23:28.12 | ravagernl | hmm |
| 23:30.31 | ravagernl | anyone know why treebar uses 1920 to set the scale and not 2048? it doesn;t make sense to me |
| 23:31.05 | Tornhoof | maybe he coded it while the old res maximum was 1920? |
| 23:31.16 | Tornhoof | it is still here |
| 23:31.28 | Tornhoof | in game resolution maximum is still 1920*1200 here |
| 23:33.02 | Treebar | it's for XArt compatibility :) |
| 23:33.10 | Treebar | stated in the readme ;) |
| 23:33.50 | Treebar | if anyone made a texture for xart before, it will work here as well |
| 23:40.08 | ravagernl | Im having a problem currently with xart |
| 23:40.31 | ravagernl | if you use a custom ui scale the scaling is wrong :( |
| 23:42.00 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r27391 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: |
| 23:42.00 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar: |
| 23:42.00 | CIA-17 | - standard heal warning |
| 23:42.30 | NeoTron | Who's Maulgar? the Gruul pre-boss? |
| 23:42.45 | vhaarr | yes |
| 23:42.54 | [dRaCo] | hey tornhoof, I noticed something weird today |
| 23:43.15 | [dRaCo] | yata showed the time of my fire elemental totem as 6 minutes |
| 23:44.08 | ravagernl | treebar: if you use a custom ui scale the scaling is wrong |
| 23:44.21 | ravagernl | have you noticed that? |
| 23:45.23 | [dRaCo] | anyway, I'm off... later. |
| 23:46.14 | shieldb | I wonder if they're going to make the chess event actually challenging in a future patch |
| 23:47.38 | shieldb | Our group didn't have time to do curator last night before the reset so I just stealthed to the chess event and solo'd it |
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