irclog2html for #wowace on 20070130

00:00.14kergothThrae: lua treats it has a bytestring.  lua's len operator for example returns the length of the string in bytes, not the number of the characters.  so lua doesnt prevent or in any haway have problems with the strings being utf8, just its string operations dont expect it, so thats what the utf-8 lib provides
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00:00.37Wraithanlotsa updates to mods lastnight
00:00.37Thraekergoth: Instead of a reverse translation table, I was thinking I could just do LocalizedDebuffTable[ UnitDebuff(i,type) ]
00:00.49Wraithanlike a quarter of my addons needed to update
00:00.52Sparhawkeamyone know of a ct mail mod replacement that is on the SVN?
00:00.59ThraeSparhawke: Postal.
00:01.03kergoththats fine, that wont cause a problem
00:01.10Thraekergoth: Uber.
00:01.31NeoTronThrae: Postal has batch mailing? does it have "rememeber last recipient" feature? Batch open? :)
00:01.36ThraeI thought as much, but I don't have a Korean client to test
00:01.44Sparhawkethanks
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00:01.55NeoTronI could just try these things but I have lvl 70 to get to. I expect to have a bit more time to work on my UI after tonigh
00:02.00ThraeNeoTron: Yes, and yes, but it's a little different then CT_MailMod. If you want more CT_MailMod style, you could also use BulkMail, which only does MassMailing.
00:02.54NeoTrondifferent.. howe? :) I just want the ability to mail <lots of gathered materials> to my bank alt(s) at once
00:03.07NeoTronwith minimum effort (alt-click or whatever)
00:03.16kergothpostal has that.. if you alt-click an item with th name inputted, its ends it to that neame
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00:03.29kergothand leaves the name inputted for the next alt click
00:03.35kergoths/its ends/it sends/
00:03.38kergothoi, cant type today
00:03.38NeoTronhmm
00:03.49NeoTronso you don't batch queue, you just alt-click to send the current item?
00:03.56NeoTronand then repeat for all items?
00:03.58TainPostal's batch opening is slow, but it works.  And hard to get around being slow or else you can lose stuff.
00:04.10kergothyeah, it saves clicks but, you can accidentally send it to the wrong person, since theres no confermation step
00:04.15NeoTronwell CT isn't really fast
00:04.19kergotheasier to batch open with shift-click, faster than 'open all'
00:04.24kergoththen the timing is up to you
00:04.31MyrathiCT is slow as treacle - but at least it doesn't lose stuff either.
00:04.45NeoTronso wait, postal loses mail?
00:04.45_neuron_NeoTron, yes they are comparable, there's a thread on the forums.
00:04.46TainI haven't used CT mailmod in a long time
00:04.56_neuron_I have some ex EQL3 users, and I am one :P
00:05.10NeoTronspeaking of losing mail, I accidently sent an 18 slot bag to the wrong guy
00:05.18NeoTronfortunately a friend nice enough to send it back
00:05.24MyrathiHaven't found a questmod I like more than MonkeyQuest. ¬_¬
00:05.30NeoTrondoes it have a "forward"?
00:05.42NeoTrononly thing I miss from ct_mailmod is "batch forward" :)
00:06.06NeoTron_neuron_: is thee a wiki page or forum post or readme with features and/or comparision?
00:06.21MyrathiWhich reminds me - I gotta go tweak it for group quests. ><
00:06.31_neuron_nope, not until I have atleast a few more commits ;)
00:06.33TainI used MonkeyQuest for like.. ever.  But I find I'm fine with just QuestFu and the normal in-game tracker now.
00:06.48Tulardo you guys use grid for a partyframe or just for healing/decursing?
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00:08.02NeoTron_neuron_: ok
00:08.09MyrathiUrgh.. I detest the Bliz tracker. Not entirely sure why - I just.. really hate it. Not configurable enough for me, for one. I like things teenie. :p
00:08.20MyrathiTular: Yup.
00:08.20vhaarrPostals Open All feature is not good, it's hardcoded with a 1sec delay.
00:08.21kergoth_neuron_: thought about doing subzone highlighting and stuff like monkeyquestlog?
00:08.29_neuron_kergoth, already there
00:08.31TainOr maybe it is the FuBar tracker I'm using?  Because you can size it.
00:08.37kergothsince when?
00:08.40kergothsubzone, not just zone?
00:08.44_neuron_it also highlights out of zone quests for curreent zone
00:08.47kergothi just tested it like 2 days ago and it didnt
00:09.05_neuron_it's both subzone and zone
00:09.06Leaf_Archimondekergoth: i have documented http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftForm ; if you like, you can add UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM ;))
00:09.18_neuron_but I've been holding back a commit for ages waiting for Kemayo
00:09.24_neuron_but the bastard is never online :P
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00:10.07MyrathiGraah... getting "Show Text" to show had better not be this easy a fix... >_<
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00:10.37CIA-1703phyber 07Neronix * r26542 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/ (Libs/ NanoStats2.toc):
00:10.37CIA-17NanoStats2:
00:10.37CIA-17- Removed SEEmbedKeys, it didn't seem to be used and it was preventing a successful update of the addon via svn.
00:11.01phyberit was also depricated for WoW2.
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00:12.56Barbanusphyber, off the top of your head, do you know why "Mangle (Bear)" and "Mangle (Cat)" would be ending up like "e (Bear)" and "e (Cat)" in my SVs file for topscorefu?
00:13.17phyberbecause the match doesn't work properly.
00:13.36phyberno idea why it loses part of the string though.
00:20.31ckknighthttp://www.colbertnation.com/cn/user-images/general/washboard_wendy.jpg
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00:25.59chutwigoh colbert what won't you do
00:27.32winkillerlol
00:29.13Arrowmasterckknight: im going to try adding "Twisting Nether" to tourist, since its really just a void in outlands to fly though do you think it should still have a type of Zone?
00:30.17vhaarrI don't think it should be added.
00:30.20vhaarrThere's nothing there.
00:30.59vhaarrThere's no level range, there are no mobs, nothing to gather, .. There's no info to put on the zone.
00:32.12vid`hmm
00:32.36vid`every ace mod is @ 26541
00:32.43vid`did wowace.com/files go nuts?
00:32.46vid`hehe
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00:32.50vid`i think i just killed all my mods
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00:34.25Arrowmastervhaarr: sorry computer just crashed
00:34.26Finlots of bulk updates fixing line endings, vid
00:34.30vid`ahhh
00:34.34vid`EVERY mod updated lol
00:34.36vhaarrArrowmaster: There's no level range, there are no mobs, nothing to gather, .. There's no info to put on the zone.
00:34.38vid`i thought i broke something
00:34.41vid`and everything had same revision #
00:34.44vhaarrArrowmaster: There's no reason to put it into Tourist.
00:36.56Arrowmastervhaarr: i was thinking just for compat, like ive modded speedfu to use tourist and its trying to lookup the zone size for twisting nether but tourist doesnt have it, also cart doesnt display guildmates in the twisting nether while this one probably requires come fixing in cart to fully work im perty sure that it would need twisting nether in tourist
00:37.35vhaarrokay
00:37.46Arrowmasterand i dont think you can use any of the path finding abilitys with twisting nether as a start point
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00:37.55CIA-1703shiftos * r26543 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: esES updated in Boss
00:38.08vhaarrArrowmaster: That's kind of the point, they're walk paths.
00:38.11Arrowmasterwasnt going to add paths to twisting nether
00:38.13vhaarrArrowmaster: Not flying paths.
00:38.24Arrowmasterjust from
00:39.58Arrowmasteryeah i agree they should be walking paths but if your in the twisting nether and ask for a path to an instance you dont know where it is, you should still get a path of something like TW to zone to instance
00:40.10Arrowmasters/TW/TN/
00:43.00cynyrdoes purl do math?
00:43.18Arrowmaster~calc 1+1
00:43.44Fincynyr: /msg purl help math
00:43.46Fin:)
00:44.41ckknightArrowmaster: not a type zone
00:44.54ckknightjust leave the type blank, I'd say
00:44.56ckknightnot ure
00:44.57ckknightsure*
00:45.09Arrowmasterif its blank then it gets automaticly set to Zone
00:45.16ckknightwell, I dunno
00:45.35ckknightmaybe transport...
00:46.03Arrowmasterand it really is a zone i guess, it even has its own general chat channel
00:46.20Arrowmastermy only concern was the zoneiter
00:48.22Leaf_ArchimondeAnyone knows how to manually and combat-friendly cycle a stance for the SecureStateHeader? For example, on button click change state from 0 to 1 or from 1 to 0, according to what state it was ?
00:48.35Leaf_Archimonde*cycle a state
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00:50.24vid`ahh
00:50.27vid`i lost all my cartog icons
00:50.29vid`:(
00:50.40ckknightI blame gnomes
00:50.46vid`hehe
00:50.50robotuschdon't we all?
00:51.05Ominoushey anyone know where i can get a speedy torrent download for TBC enGB as i left my disk at another family members house and have jsut installed vista so need to reinstall wow
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00:52.20vid`cartog_icons etc no longer working?
00:53.04CIA-1703zacwolf * r26544 10AEmotes/ (AEMOTES.lua AEmotes.toc AEmotes.xml ReadMe.txt gpl-v2.txt):
00:53.04CIA-17AEmotes:
00:53.04CIA-17- eol and interface
00:54.02CIA-1703kergoth * r26545 10kEnergy/a: kEnergy: test commit
00:54.22vid`got black squares all over my map now with a red question mark
00:54.23vid`no errors tho
00:54.24CIA-1703kergoth * r26546 10kEnergy/a: kEnergy: test commit
00:54.35bver___anyone having errors with the ora2 MTT and PT's?
00:54.36CIA-1703zacwolf * r26547 10AEmotes_Kelly/ (AEmotes_Kelly.lua AEmotes_Kelly.toc ReadMe.txt gpl-v2.txt):
00:54.36CIA-17AEmotes_Kelly:
00:54.36CIA-17- update eol prop and interface num
00:55.43CIA-1703zacwolf * r26548 10FuBar_AEmotesFU/ (. AEmotesFU.lua FuBar_AEmotesFU.toc ReadMe.txt gpl-v2.txt):
00:55.43CIA-17FuBar_AEmotesFU:
00:55.43CIA-17- Updated Interface # and added EOL style
00:56.25kergothokay, check-mime-type.pl works fine.. it isnt enabled currently, going to check with kael to ensure he's fine with it, and get perms to update SVN_Rules in the wiki
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00:57.40NeoTronvid`: I got that from imported gathered herb spots when the herbalism addon was disabled
00:57.51vid`well
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00:57.53Barbanusbver, doubt many people have raided since pre-tbc :)
00:57.53CIA-1703zacwolf * r26549 10AEmotes_JonyC/ (AEmotes_JonyC.lua AEmotes_JonyC.toc ReadMe.txt gpl-v2.txt):
00:57.53CIA-17AEmotes_JonyC:
00:57.53CIA-17- Updated Interface # and added EOL style
00:57.55vid`i have iconpacks_gatherer
00:57.57vid`iconpacks_metamap
00:58.05NeoTronI don't have any icon packs
00:58.06vid`any of those icons now are black squares with question mark
00:58.12vid`since latest mass update
00:58.18NeoTronenabling the Cartographer_Herbalism module (it's installed) does fix the nodes
00:58.23NeoTronso not sure what's up with that
00:58.24vid`hmm k sec
00:58.29CIA-1703zacwolf * r26550 10AEmotes_DrWho/ (. AEmotes_DrWho.toc):
00:58.29CIA-17AEmotes_DrWho:
00:58.29CIA-17- Updated Interface number and set EOL style
00:58.47kergothNeoTron: cartographer_Herbalism registers the icons, but if you did the import without herbalism loaded, they likely went into the main cart note db, not the herb db
00:58.53kergothwhich is why you only see icons when herbalism is loaded
00:59.14NeoTronkergoth: hrm but herbalism addon was installed but perhaps it wasn't loaded
00:59.31kergothby default its only loaded if you have the profession on that character
00:59.33kergothto save resources
00:59.36vid`hmm
00:59.38vid`it wasnt that
00:59.41vid`cause i didnt import
00:59.43kergothyou can force it with the professions module
00:59.44vid`i created my own notes
00:59.49vid`but i used the icons :P
00:59.54vid`still black squares
01:00.05vid`any of the squares
01:00.10vid`like the old mapnotes style
01:00.14NeoTronhrm
01:00.14NeoTronok
01:00.15ckknightoff to Poly Sci
01:00.20vid`which i guess is iconpack_metamap
01:00.22NeoTronI don't WANT the herb nodes visible mind you
01:00.24vid`or whatever
01:00.39NeoTronbut I can just force it to load and disable the display
01:01.01kergothNeoTron: aye, you just want to force the load of herbalisma nd mining for the import, so that they go into the correct database.. afaik it should have already though, doesnt cart import have herbalism and mining in its dependencies?
01:02.37NeoTronkergoth: except it's already imported?
01:02.44NeoTronand yes, it does now that you say it
01:02.53NeoTronit won't import herbs if you don't have the herbs addon
01:02.55vid`its not just gatherer icons
01:02.59vid`its all icons
01:03.05kergothvid`: neo and you have two seperate problems.
01:03.06vid`none of the addon icon packs are loading
01:03.11TainI am an icon!
01:03.15vid`:P
01:03.35vid`like if i goto make a new mapnote and pull up the icons dropdown
01:03.43vid`theres only like the standard cartog ones
01:03.49PogoTribalI'm gonna try Skinner.
01:04.39kergothanyone know kael's email offhand?
01:04.57phyberkaelten@gmail.com ?
01:05.42kergothheh, thats too obvious :)
01:06.46phyberWorld of Warcraft Addons: KC_AutoRepair 1.03 | World of Warcraft ...
01:06.47phyberAuthor: Kaelten (kaelten@gmail.com)
01:06.51phyberlooks like it ;)
01:06.55phyberquick google.
01:07.21kergothhehe, thanks
01:07.49TainI'd like it if Kaelten would stop having a life and bring forth some nice new versions of KC_Items and KC_EnhancedTraides
01:07.55kergothindeed
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01:07.59Mikmamen
01:08.01Mikmaamen :D
01:08.23Birdemani[FH]did someone make massive fubar changes? im updating now and see all of them changing
01:08.38Birdemani[FH]or was it lib changes?
01:08.44phyberBirdemani[FH]: Titan Bar code was merged in.
01:08.51phybershould make it much faster!
01:08.54kergothmore line ending fixups in svn, maintainance, thats part of it
01:08.59Birdemani[FH]huh?
01:09.06Birdemani[FH]kk
01:09.10kergothnot sure if fubar stuff was touched specifically, but it was a lot of files in a bunch of addons
01:09.25Barbanusphyber, I commented out lines 436-439 in topscorefu.lua, and mangle works .. but I have no idea what it will break :P
01:09.48phyberkergoth: could the line endings thing be turned into something that the server does on commit?  Kind of like how it checks the commit messages.
01:09.57BarbanusI don't understand why the string replacement was being done .. so ...
01:10.04phyberwould save you having to do it all the time ;)
01:10.05_neuron_it is possible to reject commits with bad line endings
01:10.23kergothphyber: we cant fix it on commit, because you cant generate new revisions in hooks, it results in the client and server being out of sync
01:10.35kergothwe can check for the missing properties, and i just put the script to do so on the wowace svn server
01:10.35phyberah
01:10.39kergothi just havent enabled it yet
01:10.46kergothbecause i want to update SVN_Rules at the same time
01:10.49kergothand i dont have access to modify it
01:11.46ZealotOnAStickkergoth - I think a page added to the wiki on how to use the config file for TortoiseSVN to set autoprops might be a good idea.
01:12.11CIA-1703nymbia * r26551 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (data.lua dataminer.lua):
01:12.11CIA-17PeriodicTable-3.0:
01:12.11CIA-17- Drycoded commit to an inert file of a couple missing items, the rest of the 5-man instance bosses, and some cleanup to the structure of InstanceLoot.
01:12.11CIA-17- Will datamine and add to the active files after arcatraz ;)
01:12.25_neuron_(default in subversion's code that is, I know it's not possible to make it default, but I think it's retarded that it's not :p )
01:13.04kergothZealotOnAStick: agreed, i'll create such a page and link to it from SVN_Rules, including a subversion config file excerpt
01:13.31BarbanusI guess auto-props is something set in the client, not the server eh?
01:13.34kergoth_neuron_: i disagree.  what properties are used depends on the svn in question.
01:13.49kergothBarbanus: right
01:13.56Barbanusmeh :(
01:14.51Leaf_ArchimondeBlizzard for sure needs a technical writer to publically document API. Comments in .lua sucks ;(
01:15.00kergothagreed
01:15.40_neuron_kergoth do you know if setting match to * will set it to all non binary files? I seem to remember something screwy about that a few versions ago
01:16.06Barbanusphyber, so about those pally spells ... "Seal of Vengeance" causes a dot on the enemy that does damage, the damage is called "Holy Vengeance", and when you judge, it does damage called "Judgement of Vengeance"
01:16.19Thorgardsylvanaar, pingg
01:17.23kergoth_neuron_: hmm i'm not sure actually.  but how would it determine 'non binary'?  most likely itd have to make the determination based on svn:mime-type, but our svn doesnt have mime type set to text/plain on our text files, only sets it on non..
01:17.36kergothand that too would vary with which svn repository you're talking about..
01:17.58_neuron_getting a file's mime type right 99% of the time aint all that hard.
01:18.47PogoTribalHoly crap Skinner is hideous.
01:19.08PogoTribalWho the hell decided that grey fading to white is aesthetically pleasing?
01:19.10kergothwhat world do you live in? mime type is a mess. either you use the apache install's /etc/mime.types to associate extension to mime type, or you use libfile/file to determine it based on a magic at the beginning of the file.. they're both ugly
01:19.17robotuschnote to self: read the spell description on death & decay before firing it off in the middle of my own units ;D
01:19.36kergothbut regardless, i dont mind it as it is today, we just need to make our pre commits a bit more bitchy
01:19.39_neuron_kergoth, I'd still think it'd screw up less that way :p
01:19.55kergothmy point is that what you do depends on the environment, so hardcoding it into the server or client is bad
01:20.30_neuron_not talking about hardcoding it, but if you could propset *.lua, *.txt and *.toc on this repository it'd save some time
01:20.47_neuron_I'd rather have that handled per repository, as a repository setting, than per client
01:20.50kergothto do what exactly?
01:20.53kergothproperty settings are revisions.
01:21.02kergothif the server creates revisions, its no longer in sync with the client.
01:21.08kergothso how exactly would you do it on a server basis?
01:21.18_neuron_ok that's a pretty good point :P
01:21.40kergothi wish it was repo wide too, i just dont see how it could be done given the way svn works :P
01:21.45_neuron_yeah :P
01:21.56_neuron_(let it be a setting pushed to the clients then, from the server :P )
01:21.58_neuron_that'd work :P
01:22.12kergothi'll let you explain that to the guys who designed the svn protocol
01:22.19_neuron_yeah :P
01:22.23kergothbut i'm not cleaning up the mess they make of your innards afterward
01:22.26kergoth:)
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01:22.53phyberthe server would have to send something back after the commit.  "Your commit was fine, but I added these props to it.  Fix that up locally, won't you?"
01:23.14kergothitd probably be more generic
01:23.18_neuron_phyber, nono, I'm thinking your first svn checkout you get the setting
01:23.23kergoth"hey, a new revision was added while you werent looking! boo! here it is."
01:23.29_neuron_unless one of the repository people changed it, in which case you'd have to svn up to get in sync
01:24.27phyberkergoth: but it wouldn't be a new revision.  it would be tacked on as you were committing, and the server would let the client know it was done so that they stayed in sync.
01:25.13kergoththat would be even worse, imo.  you'd be screwing up the trust level in the repository history
01:25.18kergothitd look like you made changes that you didnt
01:25.19kergothvery bad
01:25.21phyberbut meh, proper client configuration is probably better ;)
01:25.36_neuron_proper clients would be better tbh :p
01:25.45kergothproper?
01:25.55tjser.. what are you trying to do?
01:26.00tjsset properties on commit?
01:26.06kergothwe're not trying to do anything
01:26.10tjsthats bad(tm) mmm..okay?
01:26.15tjs:)
01:26.16phyberdiscussing sillynesses!
01:26.32kergothwe're discussing the annoyance of every dev having to set up the autoprops on their client when its repo wide policy
01:26.43kergothbut theres nothing to be doen other than enforcing the policy at file add time in the pre commit hook
01:26.51tjssure there is
01:27.16tjswrite a client wrapper that does it for you, make it convention that everyone uses it
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01:27.57tjsacesvn update
01:27.58Tainhah hah awesome, an honest, incompetant contractor.  http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The_Contractor's_Note.aspx
01:27.58tjsetc
01:27.58tjswould be a 20 line shell script
01:27.58kergothfuck that shit.
01:28.02kergothyou'll never get everyone using it
01:28.11phyber[auto-props] section in ~/.subversion/config is fine ;)
01:28.18kergothand it encourages ignorance of svn client config
01:28.23kergothwhich isnt something you should be encouraging
01:28.25tjstrue
01:28.36tjsso you want to enforce some props set on filetypes?
01:28.53tjsoverride pre-commit hook to raise of they are not set
01:28.58tjspeople will get the hint :)
01:29.03kergoth..
01:29.07kergoth17:33:34 <@kergoth> but theres nothing to be doen other than enforcing the policy at file add time in the pre commit hook
01:29.19kergothyes, thats what i already have on the server, just not enabled pending discussion with kael :P
01:29.29tjsah, well there you go, I'm agreeing with you
01:29.36kergothjust using http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/hook-scripts/check-mime-type.pl for now
01:29.49kergothgets the job done, better to rely on svn:mime-type than hardcoding a list of extensions in the hook
01:29.59tjshere at work we write python, we have some n00b hackers who use eclipse or some crud and cant stop committing tab spaces
01:30.06kergothugh
01:30.26tjsI wrote a 3 line pre-commit hook that just aborts any commit they attempt with tabs in it
01:30.27kergothpersonally, i dont give a shit what indentation is used, i adapt to the conventions of whatever i edit
01:30.32tjsno longer my problem :)
01:30.48tjspython uses indentation as part of the syntax
01:30.51kergothpeople that use editors that cant handle that need to be smacked around
01:30.52tjsits kinda important
01:30.56kergothyep
01:31.02kergothvim and emacs modelines ftw
01:31.11TainAt least they're not coding in Whitespace.
01:31.14tjsmodelines are a pita as well
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01:31.27tjspeople forget to add them
01:31.35kergoththats easily fixed with a hook too ;)
01:31.40kergoth"no modelines, fuck you!"
01:31.50Barbanuskergoth, I wish more people were like you, and wouldnt bitch about the personal preference of indentation ... at least thats how I see it.
01:31.56TainGod bless hookers, they're the solution to every problem.
01:31.58tjspersonally I think everyone should use vim, if they cant they should use emacs (I can put up with emacs users) everyone else should go rot
01:31.58kergothproject local vimrc files is a cool way to go, theres a vim plugin for that, but there's obvious security implications
01:32.09tjs*halo*
01:32.43tjsaye
01:32.43kergothBarbanus: i mean, i have certain indentation styles i use in my code.. but i dont see any reason to whine about someone elses.. get a decent editor and move on with your day :)
01:33.01kergoththe only thing that gets on my nerves is the use of hard tabs for -alignment-
01:33.08TainI can at least muddle through without much violence as long as someone keeps consistent with their indentation.  Its when I open a file that has a mix of tabs and spaces used indenting
01:33.16kergoththeres a difference between indentation and alignment, and hard tabs for alignment is quite problematic
01:33.26kergothruins the benefit of using hard tabs in the first place
01:33.30kergothwhich is being able to adjust the width
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01:35.17kergothfixed? oh, updated to 20003?
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01:35.43Barbanuslol
01:35.52Barbanuskergoth, what do you mean by alignment?
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01:36.06Tainkergoth's code is chaotic good
01:36.08kergothfunction foo(alpha
01:36.14kergoth<PROTECTED>
01:36.18tjsI agree indentation is really a preference thing in most languages, it makes good sense to have a standard per project that people agree on, as with naming conventions, so a project is sane across the board. I'm not as casual about languages like python however, 4 spaces, no tabs is fairly well set in stone across the python community, it ticks me off when people break that rule
01:36.20kergoththe spaces there aligns beta with alpha
01:36.31kergoththat alignment has to be spaces, or changing the tab width will breka the alignment
01:36.32Barbanusohhhh yes .. agreed.
01:36.34BarbanusCompletely.
01:38.20kergothin a perfect world, i'd use hard tabs for indentation and spaces for alignment, since it tends to be the best of both worlds, but its prone to breakage when multiple users touch the file, even more than other styles
01:39.03Barbanuskergoth, yea .. I personally like tabs ... people disagree with me .. but tabs allow you to set the width at whatever you want them to be ... spaces do not.
01:39.14BarbanusI've seen code with 1 space, drove me up the wall
01:40.17_neuron_code with one space... he must be using an editor that does indenting for him :P
01:40.30kergoth2 spaces i can see, though i personally prefer 4..
01:40.33kergoth1 is just excessive
01:40.34Barbanus_neuron_, probably, and makes it useless for anyone else.
01:40.37_neuron_yeah
01:40.45sylvanaarThorgard pong
01:40.54TainI tend towards only using tabs just because I'm lazy.  But kergoth is right, to get things lined up specific ways you need to use spaces.
01:41.24kergothi have a vim plugin that automatically uses spaces if you indent past the current indentation level, or if what preceded the tab press wasnt whitespace
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01:42.05Thorgardsylvanaar, the "[Bongbong] is Away from Keyboard" auto-replies one gets when messaging someone who's AFK doesn't have the nick part colored by class (when the whole coloring deal is enabledx), is that do-able?
01:42.20ThorgardI think that's like the -lowest- priority anything can get. ;P
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01:44.44sylvanaarThorgard sure, if you can track the bug down, otherwise just add it to the tracker
01:46.27PogoTribalI'm having a problem editing values in config menus.
01:46.34PogoTribalI'm hitting enter but they're not being saved.
01:47.24AmadeoI have a really hard time getting used to the font display in Linux
01:47.32Amadeothe antialiasing or whatever is really aggressive compared to Windows
01:47.38kergothyou can adjust it
01:47.53chutwigit's because freetype by default doesn't use hinting because it's encumbered
01:47.56chutwigyou can turn it on
01:47.57AmadeoI figured you must be able to
01:48.08Amadeodoesn't hinting = cleartype?
01:48.18chutwigcleartype is subpixel antialiasing
01:48.21kergothi have..
01:48.22kergoth~$ cat .Xresources |grep -i ^Xft
01:48.27kergothXft.hintstyle: hintfull
01:48.27kergothXft.hinting: true
01:48.27kergothXft.rgba: rgb
01:48.27kergothXft.antialias: true
01:48.37chutwighinting is reading certain hints in the font file that give the renderer tips on how to draw it at smaller point sizes
01:48.39AmadeoI'm on a CRT, and when I enabled hinting I saw colors around my letters
01:48.39kergothnot sure if thats how you want it, but those are the settings
01:48.49chutwigwhich is why tahoma 8 looks so different from large point sizes, because it's hinted
01:48.56PogoTribalOk fuck this, I want one bag.
01:49.02Amadeohm
01:49.09break19heh
01:49.31chutwigugh i hate moving my interface setup from a widescreen display to 4:3
01:49.34chutwigeverything gets fucked up
01:49.36CIA-1703laotseu * r26556 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua AllPlayed.toc):
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01:49.40Amadeolet me boot on over to Linux, so I can play with it
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01:49.44break19gah, you know you treat guild chat too much like IRC, when you nearly type /g before saying something here....
01:49.50_neuron_hehe
01:51.37grennonhey, as soon as i get to 70 ill work on the bulkmail gui for postal
01:51.42grennondont mail gmail just yet
01:51.45grennonmounr*
01:51.53grennons/mounr/mourn/
01:52.20chutwigis there a way in bartender to get it to push all the bars back onto the screen if they've overflowed off the screen?
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01:52.29chutwigi have bars that i know are sitting off the right edge
01:52.32WobWorknono
01:52.33Amadeotada
01:52.37WobWorkI mean googlemail =P
01:52.41WobWorkServer Error    We are sorry but Google Mail is temporarily unavailable. We are currently working to fix the problem. Please try logging in to your account in a few minutes.
01:52.52WobWorkno confusion intended, gren =)
01:53.08PogoTribalchutwig: Reset bars maybe?
01:53.35PogoTribalWhat really annoys me with Bartender3 is that I can't click in area where there is a bar but there are no icons.
01:53.42chutwigPogoTribal: donde es
01:53.47chutwigi went through all the menus before i asked
01:54.04PogoTribalMmmm, not sure, I thought there was a reset bars option.
01:54.12chutwignot that i see
01:54.13chutwigmeh
01:54.19chutwigi'll just change the coords in the sv
01:54.23PogoTribalIf worst comes to worst, try making a different profile and see if all the bars appear so you can move them again.
01:55.25chutwigfixing things the dyed-in-the-wool unix way
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01:56.51WobWorkchutwig: better than the ditw windows way aka blizzardGMtech aka delete wtf/wdb/etc =P
01:57.07chutwigif it's not a text file that i can't edit, i don't like it!
01:57.20break19WobWork: thats just the blizzard way.. the windows way is a reboot :p
01:57.39chutwigi hope i moved them in the right direction
01:57.47chutwigall this time using a mac has screwed up my notion of coordinates :(
01:58.35PogoTribalI think they start from top left
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02:02.00TainNow just have to wait 15 minutes or so before I start watching Heroes so I can skip the commercials.
02:04.31chutwigwonderful!
02:04.32chutwigall is well
02:04.50chutwigand the aguf castbar on this computer is also smooth
02:04.56chutwigit is a mystery
02:05.19CIA-1703sutorix * r26558 10ClosetGnome_Fishing/Libs/: ClosetGnome_Fishing: Set externals
02:05.23sergioTekkub: Any idea why my FuzzyLogic macro won't work when I use it on a bt3 button swap bar (i.e. hold ctrl to switch to a bar then let go to switch back)
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02:06.30ckknighthey all
02:06.32ckknightI don't want to go to my systems analysis class :-P
02:06.35chutwigthere shouldn't be any directories containing user-customized data other than Interface, WTF and WDB, right?
02:06.35sergiohello
02:06.51chutwigbecause i have no idea why aguf would act differently on these two computers since i'm just copying the interface and WTF folders straight over
02:07.07Azurewrathchutwig: Interface and WTF only
02:07.13chutwigit's damn peculiar
02:07.45PogoTribalWhat's the FuBar plugin to show an experience bar at the edge of a FuBar?
02:07.45Tainhuh uh huh huh uh..ckknight said anal
02:07.52ckknight:-P
02:07.52Azurewrathdifferent resolution or UI scale?
02:07.57Azurewrathhi ckk
02:08.03ckknightPogoTribal: FuXPFu
02:08.09chutwigthey're all different resolutions
02:08.17chutwigtwo of them are the same UI scale, i changed it on the third one
02:08.28chutwigand the graphical settings are different on each one
02:09.03Azurewraththat will screw up position data afaik
02:09.26chutwigwell, the original computer is my desktop, PC at 1680x1050
02:09.27chutwigit chops
02:09.38chutwigon my mac, which is 1280x800, same UI scale, it doesn't
02:09.47chutwigand on my PC laptop, 1600x1200, different UI scale, also doesn't chop
02:10.14chutwigto clarify when i say it chops i mean it doesn't update smoothly
02:12.49WobWork<PROTECTED>
02:12.58chutwigsynergy
02:13.01chutwig?
02:13.05TainYeah this guy WobWork was asking about that in the other channel
02:13.11AmadeoAny must-have apps for Linux?
02:13.19TainNethack!
02:13.21tliffamarok
02:13.32chutwigcedega so you can wish you were in windows just a little less
02:13.42AmadeoI have Amarok by default
02:13.43_neuron_meh, wine > cedega :P
02:13.50chutwigalso KDE is evil
02:13.52Amadeoand I have wine :D
02:14.03TainI only have rum. :/
02:14.10chutwigyo ho ho
02:14.15_neuron_think most must have apps are personal preference :P
02:14.19AmadeoI like the way Gnome looks better, but I like what you can configure through the UI in KDE
02:14.25chutwigbut it's linux, it doesn't matter
02:14.29chutwigyou're supposed to argue endlessly
02:14.53TainSeriously though, anyone who hasn't logged endless hours in Nethack is really missing out.
02:15.06AmadeoI haven't...but I've heard about it
02:15.06_neuron_hehe
02:15.10chutwigvim vs emacs, kde vs gnome, bash vs zsh vs tcsh vs whatever
02:15.18chutwigthe holy war material is endless
02:15.26_neuron_argh.... my notice when I pick a quest item only comes up once now, and then it goes MIA until next reloadui, this is driving me nuts..
02:15.35AmadeoI have no problem with vim, if I knew how to use it :)
02:15.36TainYeah too bad the Linux vs BSD wars have died down.
02:15.47AmadeoI don't even know how to actually type something in vim
02:15.51chutwighit i
02:15.54TainOr o!
02:15.55chutwigthat puts it into insert mode
02:15.57_neuron_hehe
02:16.00chutwighit escape to put it in command mode
02:16.04AmadeoI see
02:16.08AmadeoI know how to quit and save
02:16.11WobWorkwoo ta chutwig
02:16.13Amadeosince it yells at you
02:16.14Amadeo:)
02:16.19chutwigi used to use emacs until i figured out vim, now i don't like emacs
02:17.01AmadeoIf I could get WoW to run well in Linux, I wouldn't have to boot to Windows much :(
02:17.04WobWorkAmadeo: lemme get you a nifty lnik
02:17.10AmadeoSomething's just weird with it here
02:17.10_neuron_ati hardware Amadeo ? :P
02:17.14AmadeoNvidia
02:17.17chutwigwhich distro did you pick amadeo
02:17.19WobWorkhttp://jmcpherson.org/editing.html
02:17.19_neuron_hm, works flawlessly here
02:17.24_neuron_and has since EU beta
02:17.26chutwigbecause in lieu of WoW you can get beryl and amuse yourself with that instead
02:17.36chutwigberyl is about as close as you get to a game on linux
02:17.43_neuron_haha
02:17.44AmadeoI've been playing around a lot with em, but I'm in Kubuntu right now...just kinda messing with KDE to see what I think of it
02:17.56Amadeosince my Linux install isn't important to me right now, I can play with whatever
02:18.09chutwigand it's a lot easier to get set up on nvidia hardware than ATI
02:18.23AmadeoWell, it's not that it doesn't run...it's just that my framerate is terrible
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02:18.31Nomad_Wanderer!ping ckknight
02:18.34Nomad_Wandererarrge
02:18.34_neuron_running in opengl with the regedit fix Amadeo ?
02:18.35chutwigare you using the nvidia binary driver?
02:18.38AmadeoMoreso...it locks up for a few seconds when it loads video textures
02:18.45chutwigbecause the open-source one is slow as hammered shit
02:18.46_neuron_sounds like d3d
02:18.51ckknightNomad_Wanderer: doesn't work that way
02:18.55Nomad_Wandererhehehe.
02:18.56_art3misThere is a VERY dark joke amongst comics: Q: "Why did Bill Hicks die but Denis Leary continues to live? A: "Because there's 'No Cure for Cancer'."
02:18.58Amadeo_neuron_: I was...right now the new wine won't let me add the key
02:19.04grennonwow
02:19.13Nomad_WandererI have that bad cartographer.lua file if you want to see it via pastey.. it's not very big..
02:19.14grennonthe new waypoints in cartographer
02:19.23grennonthey have exceeded my expectations
02:19.30Amadeochutwig: I'm using the latest Nvidia, yeah
02:19.34grennoni was expecting just a buddy temporary mapnote
02:20.36WobWorkgrennon: No way, no how =P
02:20.42WobWorkWhy do things half arsed? =)
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02:21.30ckknightNomad_Wanderer: you broke my IRC
02:21.31ckknightbad.
02:21.36Mikmagz :D
02:21.39ckknightyou don't get a cookie today.
02:21.52AmadeoIf I'm indoors in WoW, my framerate is fine...it's 60 fps or so...when I go outside, framerate drops like crazy...which is normal, but it's dropping very low...when I turn around and stuff, the textures loading seem to freeze me for a second as I turn, while the framerate drops even lower
02:22.25ckknighton Linux?
02:22.25_art3misturn down camera distance and distance detail?
02:22.27_neuron_Amadeo, this is in d3d or opengl?
02:22.27Amadeoyeah
02:22.28chutwigturn down camera distance?
02:22.29AmadeoOpenGL
02:22.31ckknighthrm
02:22.39ckknightinstall Windows or get a Mac
02:22.48chutwigkek
02:22.53Amadeodetail is already very low, and I'm comparing how it behaves in Windows
02:22.56_neuron_installing windows isn't really a problem solver imo :P
02:23.02chutwigyou done been TOLD, son
02:23.04_neuron_it's nice if you want some different problems though
02:23.07ckknight_neuron_: thus the Mac option
02:23.08AmadeoI'm losing like 20-30 fps compared to WoW in Windows
02:23.12_art3misoh
02:23.23_neuron_oh crap, now my server's screwing up
02:23.30Nomad_WandererWait.. how did I break your IRC?
02:23.36_neuron_now that's just unnecessary
02:23.56Amadeockknight: I'm still very curious about WoW OpenGL performance in OS X compared to D3D in Windows on the same Mac hardware
02:24.09_neuron_Amadeo, I dont loose fps in linux compared to windows
02:24.09chutwigAmadeo: the answer is that it's slower
02:24.20_neuron_and I've compared with  my brother's computer, on identical hardware and the same interface dir
02:24.21ckknightAmadeo: hrm, haven't tested, I get a cool 60 fps maximized, though
02:24.21Amadeo_neuron_: That's why I need to figure out how to fix this!
02:24.25ckknightindoor and out
02:24.29ckknightsettings all up
02:24.34tlundare there any alternatives to FuBar_NavigatorFu? its a bit buggy, and i would prefer an addon that can show me the zone/subzone name aswell...
02:24.37chutwigit will be sped up in 10.5 with multithreaded opengl, but blizzard's opengl path is just slower than the d3d one
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02:24.38ckknight(except distance, which is in the middle)
02:24.46_neuron_tlund, Fubar_location or something :P
02:24.55art3mislocationfu
02:25.04Amadeochutwig: Well I assume it's slower, but I'd like to see by how much
02:25.14chutwigthe words "a lot" come to mind
02:25.23art3miswith the space even!
02:25.29art3misyou must be canadian ;P
02:25.39Amadeo_neuron_: What's your video?
02:25.39chutwigactually, i'm from new jersey
02:25.42ckknighthttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/shining <--- awesome
02:25.44tlund_neuron_: thanks.
02:25.47art3mislies!
02:25.48_neuron_nvidia 6800
02:25.50_neuron_tlund, huh? :P
02:25.51art3misno-one is from jersey!
02:25.53AmadeoI have a 6600 GT
02:25.57chutwigi am :(
02:26.06art3misat least no-one openly admits it cept bon jovi but thats cuz he's rich
02:26.07tlund_neuron_: for your tip? :)
02:26.11_neuron_Amadeo, it's funky though, got a guy on almost the exact same hardware as me running wine latest in d3d swearing he gets more fps
02:26.17chutwigpeople who amuse themselves at the expense of my state end up dead in a block of concrete
02:26.18_neuron_tlund, ohh right, short attention span, already forgot :P
02:26.25tlund_neuron_: omg :)
02:26.28AmadeoCould this be some kind of kernel variance issue?
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02:26.44art3mischutwig: not my fault you picked the tomato as the stats vegatable ;P
02:26.55chutwigart3mis: i had nothing to do with it >:(
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02:27.00_neuron_it could be the moon being in the wrong position for all I know, I sure haven't been able to figure it out
02:27.00art3misheh
02:27.04Amadeo_neuron_: which distro are you getting good fps in?
02:27.04art3mis<-- lives in nyc now
02:27.22art3misonly good thigns to come out of jersey were the lincoln and holland tunnels ;P
02:27.23chutwigwhich part?
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02:27.29art3misbrooklyn
02:27.29_neuron_I'm running gentoo 64bit (before everyone goes ricer, it's because of the multilib stuff, I compile -O2)
02:27.33chutwigwhich part of brooklyn
02:27.37chutwigmy girlfriend lives in park slope
02:27.39Amadeohmm
02:27.44art3misnice crown heights
02:27.48chutwigmy car has a lot of brooklyn kisses on it
02:27.50art3misshes about 15 blocks east of me
02:28.07chutwigsome ass clown in a pickup truck backed into it and broke half of the honda emblem off
02:28.08chutwigi mean
02:28.12chutwigthat's how you tell it's a honda!
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02:28.20AmadeoEveryone that has told me their Linux WoW outperforms their Windows WoW is in Gentoo
02:28.32chutwiggentoo and exaggerated performance claims go hand in hand
02:28.37_neuron_hehe, that's true
02:28.53Gnarfoz_(www.funroll-loops.org? anyone? -.-)
02:28.55_neuron_it's not faster for me though, just pretty much the same
02:28.59chutwighey man i recompiled bash with -funroll-loops and -fsnake-oil and -fbullshit-optimizations and now it goes 475% faster
02:29.11_neuron_it was way faster when I had less ram a few ages ago and the windows one kept swapping
02:29.15AmadeoWhich kernel?
02:29.18art3misthats what you get for having a ricer in brooklyn ;P
02:29.18WobWorkAmadeo: I'd like that =)
02:29.21_neuron_normal gentoo one
02:29.26chutwignot a ricer :(
02:29.28_neuron_nothing funky here at all :P
02:29.34Amadeothen that shouldn't be it
02:29.39Amadeosince I'm using almost the same one
02:29.42chutwighey art3mis your wage taxes are high and street cleaning sucks
02:29.43chutwigTAKE THAT
02:29.59art3misdon't have a truck anymore and i own my own company ;)
02:29.59Amadeois there any way I could add that wine registry key without using regedit? it's broken
02:30.09art3misalthough you can rib me on rent ;P
02:30.25kergothwine provides a regedit binary, is there something wrong with it?
02:30.32art3mishow often ya come into the big city?
02:30.53art3misand is yer gf hot and lonely ;P
02:30.58Amadeokergoth: in 0.9.30, I'm not able to rename registry keys for some reason, so when I create a new key...it's just New Key #1 or whatever
02:31.18chutwigwe alternate weekends usually, and hands off
02:31.22kergothah, weird
02:31.25art3misheh
02:31.32ckknightpart of me believes that the Gentoo guys are just lying about how fast their machines are.
02:31.33art3mishow old are ya?
02:31.41AmadeoI bet it ends up being some KDE problem
02:31.43chutwig23
02:31.46art3misits linux of course they're lying
02:31.47Amadeokdesu doesn't work right, after all
02:31.57chutwigi may wind up living in brooklyn or manhattan come september if i wind up at NYU
02:32.03art3misnice
02:32.13PogoTribalAnyone know if SWStats2Fu works with latest SWS version 2.0.2?
02:32.17art3misyou'd be better off living in union city or jersey city
02:32.19chutwiginterviewed for their MBA program last week
02:32.26art3misMUCH cheaper even counting the bus/path runs
02:32.27chutwigyeah, i'd rather live in jersey city and take the PATH
02:32.30tjsnot sure if this is possible in any way.. but can you make a macro that uses a sequence, and have the icon some how represent what the next step is? or where in the sequence you are?
02:32.36art3misalthough
02:32.45art3misif you two live together you can get a fairly decent place
02:32.51PogoTribaltjs: Try using the '?' icon for the macro.
02:32.52Amadeo_neuron_: So you didn't do any special tweaking to wine or WoW for Linux?
02:32.56chutwigwe're trying to work that out
02:33.02tjsPogoTribal: thanks :)
02:33.10chutwigwe both applied to various business schools but NYU is the only one we share
02:33.21art3misgroovy
02:33.22chutwigi interviewed and her interview there is coming up, so if we both get accepted there no problem
02:33.27art3miswell msg me when yer coming in next
02:33.32PogoTribaltjs: I'm not sure if that works though, I know it picks an icon based on the spell that's being macro'd, but I don't know if it works in a Castsequence where there are multiple spells.
02:33.41chutwigwowace drinking party
02:33.42art3miswe'll bore her to tears about wow ;P
02:33.44PogoTribaltjs: So let me know if it works 'cus I'm curious.
02:33.49tjssure thing
02:33.52chutwigmost of my guild is actually in brooklyn
02:33.54chutwigit's funny
02:33.56art3misreally?
02:34.08art3misnice ive ounly found two people on both my servers that are in bk
02:34.15_neuron_Amadeo, only the regedit thing, other than that nothing (and I run it in opengl)
02:34.21Amadeohm
02:34.26Amadeothat sucks for me then :P
02:34.26chutwigyeah, it's funny
02:34.37chutwigbecause a lot of them know each other in real life and started it a long time ago
02:34.41chutwigor the precursor to it, at least
02:34.44_neuron_Amadeo, oh, and I remember a while ago a friend of mine tried and got horrible fps, he tracked it down to a fps graph mod or something, it worked in d3d, but ate opengl fps like mad.
02:34.46art3misheh rad
02:35.07art3mislies!
02:35.12art3miswho makes nquest?
02:35.15chutwigwhich server?
02:35.20chutwigneuron makes it :3
02:35.23art3miszuljin was pervious on sivlermoon
02:35.31Amadeo_neuron_: So tell me how to fix it! :P
02:35.31art3mispreviously
02:35.40_neuron_Amadeo, remove your interface dir and try without it :P
02:35.45art3misnueron: one slight tip aboutt he tracker
02:35.50Amadeoblah, ok :P
02:35.52art3misneuron
02:35.54_neuron_notice those repeated "I'm  afk for good now" :p
02:36.02chutwigclearly not mister!
02:36.02AmadeoYeah but that doesn't work
02:36.07_neuron_apperantly not :P
02:36.08AmadeoYou're nothing but a liar!
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02:36.11chutwigphony!
02:36.12AmadeoI knew it!
02:36.12_neuron_sure art3mis
02:36.13chutwiggreat big phony!
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02:36.18Amadeohaha
02:36.19art3misjust saying, when you collapse the quests in the tracker might be a good idea to flag the zones as well ;P
02:36.34_neuron_what do you mean?
02:36.38AmadeoIs there some sort of WAU for Linux? :P
02:36.41art3misi do like the +- clicky thingy you did though MUCH better than the previous version
02:36.44art3miswell
02:36.46_neuron_yes Amadeo ,l ook at the forums
02:36.53art3misright now if you've got a quest and you click to hide it
02:36.53AmadeoYou're still here!
02:37.01art3misthe zone remains despite being "empty"
02:37.08PogoTribalMessaging Nickserv is annoying.
02:37.11AmadeoThanks :)
02:37.17_neuron_yeah, intentionally, cuz most people rightclick on zone to add remove quests ;)
02:37.22art3misAmadeo: you can get source and just compile it and fix it in c ;P
02:37.27_neuron_you can change the setting to hide zones where your not tracking any quests in the settings
02:37.31art3misnods
02:37.41art3misjust figured i'd mention it ;P
02:37.54art3misother than that i9 like it
02:37.57art3misi like
02:38.10art3misall it needs is a quest winder like extended quest box
02:38.22_neuron_I had people nagging me to change the default to always showing all zones ;)
02:38.40art3misheh i'd love it it hid the zone on a right click ;P
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02:38.48art3misleft click collapse/open
02:39.06art3missince right click hides the quest
02:39.15_neuron_hm, yeah, right now hidden = collapsed, and if you got "always show" it'll still show it :P
02:39.15art3misbut very clean none-the-less
02:39.17chutwigcan we have font size change too :o
02:39.34_neuron_3:40 am, talk to me about this in the morning :p
02:39.39art3mispussy ;P
02:39.42_neuron_right now I gtg (for real this time, honest :p ), later guys ;)
02:39.44chutwigfaul!
02:39.50_neuron_art3mis, was up discussing this until 6am last night :P
02:39.54art3mislaugh
02:39.59art3misahh the life of a codr
02:40.06art3misyou just need more coffee and mars bars
02:40.11CIA-1703kergoth * r26559 10aUF_Layouts/Mulesh_1.lua: aUF_Layouts: I really don't think you need to be asking acelocale for paths to fonts in the interface dir :P
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02:40.36art3misnow if i can just find anti
02:40.38PogoTribalHmm... my minimap dissappeared.
02:40.49art3misi want sanity bags!
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02:41.15ckknighthttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/officespace
02:41.18ckknightlol
02:42.59PogoTribalBartender is really annoying me that I can't click in the "empty" space.
02:43.08PogoTribalDoes it really have to be like that?
02:43.18art3misckk
02:43.23MikmaPogoTribal: propably
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02:43.25art3misdo a search for movies told by bunnies
02:43.32art3misTHOST RULE!
02:43.34ckknightart3mis: seen em all
02:43.35art3misTHOSE
02:43.37ckknight:-P
02:43.37art3misheh
02:43.43art3misand zombie college
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02:44.00art3misi bought the broken saints dvd box set last month too
02:44.29ckknightugh, I better be intrigued by this damn class, otherwise I'm dropping it
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02:48.27CIA-1703funkydude * r26560 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: Gruul > Gruul the Dragonkiller
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02:52.41Amadeook, well
02:52.54AmadeoI think I'm done with KDE, I don't like the little quirky things that keep happening :P
02:53.46AmadeoI think I'll install another CD for the hell of it
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03:01.37Arrowmasterckknight: what exactly uses the texture_rev info in tourist? is that for cart
03:01.53Mikmaag`: i had to increase the padding on agUF since the 1-50 wasn't enough for petgrouping
03:02.07Mikmaag`: it's not 1-100
03:02.15ckknightArrowmaster: texture-to-zone
03:02.30ckknightArrowmaster: Cart uses it, it's useful
03:02.38ckknightbasically, "Ogrimmar" => "Orgrimmar"
03:03.17chutwigag`: i determined that the castbar choppiness seems to be related to graphical settings and not to the addon itself
03:03.27AmadeoI notice that Cartographer turned into a "package" in WAU
03:03.28Arrowmasterjust wondering because i cant add a texture for "Twisting Nether" or i would break the texture_rev for "Outland"
03:03.30chutwigone computer where it chops and two where it doesn't
03:03.39Arrowmasteri think
03:03.40Mikmachutwig: the castbar works on me nicely without chopping
03:03.55chutwigMikma: it's fine on two of my computers but not on one and they all share the same interface and wtf folders
03:04.44chutwigso it has something to do either with ui scale, res, anisotropic filtering, LoD, or antialiasing, because those are the only differences
03:05.12Mikmatry with same settings
03:06.35chutwigas soon as i finish this quest
03:06.39chutwigthese whelps need killing
03:08.52ckknightArrowmaster: you don't add a texture.
03:09.02Arrowmasterwasnt going to
03:09.15ckknightCartographer will see you in Outland, not the Twisting Nether
03:09.16ckknightbasically
03:10.00Arrowmasterwhen cart is sending posstion data to other guildmates is it using the zone name?
03:10.08CIA-1703next96 * r26562 10ColaLight/Core.lua:
03:10.08CIA-17ColaLight:
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03:10.52Arrowmasterbecause ive heard people saying they couldnt see me at all when i was out in the twisting nether
03:12.28ckknightit uses the texture mapping now.
03:12.33ckknightit was fixed recently
03:12.35ckknightgtg
03:12.38Arrowmasterah ok
03:14.03Mikmahttp://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/viivijawagner/1684/20070129.gif <- subtitles: Frame1: mm... Blender. - Frame3: same thing every time
03:16.23MikmaHAHAHAHA this is great one http://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=wulff&i=410
03:17.27chutwigMikma: can't figure it out
03:17.31chutwigi set them both to be exactly the same
03:24.02hastesteev: no, it shouldn't
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03:37.07HaremDoes the zip script still do that thing sometimes where it doesn't pick up the externals correctly?
03:39.09Fin~seen vhaarr
03:39.28purlvhaarr is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 136 messages. Is idling for 3h 1m 15s, last said: 'Arrowmaster: Not flying paths.'.
03:39.29Finpurl, wake up
03:39.34purlACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
03:39.35Findanke
03:40.17Finvery zen, what vhaarr said last
03:40.42FinArrowmaster: Not flying paths - broken scarecrow goes east. Fly, wind behind you.
03:40.52Finom
03:51.24PogoTribalWeird FuBar bug.
03:52.13PogoTribalIf I have a second panel and I detach it, then have it snapped to the right side of the screen and attempt to resize it from its left edge, I'll resize the 1st bar that's attached to the top of the screen from ITS left edge.
03:54.58PogoTribalBut it only happens when I'm adjusting the left edge, it's modifying the other bar's width.
03:56.02MyrathiFuBar plugins are giving me headaches.
03:56.53MyrathiTook me long enough (digging through code) to work out how to get the "Show Icon/Text" options to show up - now, when I reload or logout and -in again, it's not storing the setting.
03:57.25MyrathiAnd there's no /hitwithhammer command for FuBar. ¬_¬
03:57.31Ordogdelete and redownload, its working for me :)
03:58.47MyrathiHm. Wonder if I need to register an empty profile default or something daft.
03:59.05MyrathiWorth a try.
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04:07.51MyrathiGrmph. That didn't work.
04:18.06CIA-1703funkydude * r26563 10BigWigs/Other/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: Other: updated Gruul mod
04:18.42PogoTribalHmm, I need a way to consolidate my action buttons or something.
04:19.25PogoTribalI'd like to hide crap like Power Word Fort, and food, alchemy, herbalism button, but also show it when I want to.
04:20.14PogoTribalI'm gonna try Perl's unit frames too, not getting the customization I want here
04:20.30Namsar12Why not just set up a binding to toggle one of the action bars ? so you just hit.. say ']' and it shows your "utility" bar ?
04:20.39WobWorkack
04:20.40WobWorkcolour
04:20.45WobWorklight blue on white?
04:20.49break19AIEE! I'm BLIND
04:20.51PogoTribalHoly crap that's blue.
04:20.58PogoTribalI definitely got the message though.
04:21.05Namsar12ahhh crap freaky trillian colours let me work it out...
04:21.05break19altho.. on my black background, it looks nifty :p
04:21.10WobWorkThe goggles do narfing
04:21.18PogoTribalYeah I got a black background too
04:21.28PogoTribalTHe contrast is blowing me away.
04:21.32break19I need to sleep.
04:21.43Namsar0404,00ok hows this... worse ?
04:21.47Funkeh`lol
04:21.56PogoTribalALthough I gotta admit, ag` has the sexiest code spacing I've seen.
04:21.58CIA-1703ricowan * r26564 10RicoMiniMap/ (. RicoMiniMap.lua):
04:21.58CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
04:21.58CIA-17- Added compatibility with FuBar/Cartographer map shape
04:22.10BarbanusNamsar, just lose the colors, all of em, lol
04:22.12PogoTribalEverything is organized beautifully.
04:22.23PogoTribalNamsar: Now I have a white background on my black background.
04:22.30Namsar01,01ok!!!01,990101,01
04:23.00Namsar1212,01*mumbles about trillian's crappy irc client*
04:27.18MyrathiWow. That's... blue.
04:27.26MyrathiIsn't there a "none" colour setting?
04:27.49Namsar00Not really :(
04:29.38ThraeNeeded to turn down some of my settings for Burning Crusade, dammit
04:29.46ThraeMy computer was hot stuff a year ago =/
04:32.02MyrathiWow. Not only does it mess up colours but it also sets your text bold. :)
04:34.55Funkeh`whats up
04:36.27Funkeh`meh cba, good night folks
04:36.37MyrathiO_o
04:36.49MyrathiAha! Found out why this stupid thing wasn't saving the text status.
04:37.00MyrathiHelps if I set the SavedVariables name ><
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04:37.56MyrathiAnd cute: WoW just crashed as I needed to reboot it. Timing.
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05:14.56hastekergoth: Have you had the error where player names, guild names and raid targets vanish when you're 20 yards from the enemy?
05:15.18hastekergoth: I get it both under Cedega and Wine. Caching is also broken under Cedega =\
05:18.56ThraeAH no wonder I was having FPS problems -- SLI wasn't enabled.
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05:27.56PogoTribalAnyone using XPerl?
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05:28.24PogoTribalThere's a freakin box showing the number of healers targetting me next to my portrait
05:28.29PogoTribalI don't need to see that
05:31.03Andunepogotribal: so close it?  there should be an X in the corner to do so
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05:42.58RaydenUniwhere do you config agUF to display who has aggro?
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05:45.32RaydenUniwhen i updated it showed up automatically
05:45.36RaydenUnibut its not showing on my friends
05:47.26PogoTribalAndune: Another question... can you configure the border highlight for mouseover?
05:47.56PogoTribalI guess I can just turn it off
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06:11.09Andunepogotribal: not that I'm aware of... but, I never really tried.
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06:31.37ckknighthey all
06:32.10BarbanusI had to break the 40 min silence :P
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06:54.43ckknightmmm... chicken
06:57.15BarbanusI broke my server
06:57.22Barbanusthe continent died
06:57.32Barbanusand I have now killed everything in 1/4 of silithus
06:57.35Barbanusand no respawns
06:59.50NightHawkTheSanemmm... chicken, indeed
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07:13.45CIA-17SharedKoS:
07:13.45CIA-17- added debug statements.
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07:22.59Feldiawhy would you be farming crap in silithus
07:23.22copystring__http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9225/wowscrnshot012907191520ik6.jpg
07:24.35OvrLrd-Qelementals
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07:30.07ckknightcopystring_: it's relatively easy to fake that.
07:34.19NeoTronso flying rocks
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07:34.23NeoTronnow I just need 3000 more g
07:38.25Aenslaedits not
07:38.31Aenslaededitted that screenshot that is
07:38.45Aenslaedtheres a bug which lets some people fly around the old world and also in instances.
07:38.55krkaNeoTron: yeah, those are my favourite types of rocks
07:39.17Aenslaedif you get meeting stoned while mounted, you can fly around on kalimdor through the Caverns of Time stone.
07:41.07ckknightwhat's a good Item Database Addon?
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07:42.43copystring__well its not fake dont care if you beleave me or not
07:43.02ckknightit's a fake item link.
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07:43.10copystring__its bugged
07:43.33copystring__everyone spammed it in all channels
07:43.44copystring__went around whole world withing 2minutes
07:43.57ckknightyea, it's a fake item link, easy to fake.
07:44.10copystring__but not faked screenshot
07:44.14copystring__or faked by me
07:44.21ckknightnot saying you're the source
07:44.25ckknightor that the screenshot is fake
07:44.32ckknightI'm saying the item link was tampered with.
07:44.39copystring__cam be
07:44.41copystring__can*
07:46.02ckknightno one knows a good item database addon?
07:46.47copystring__usually if the realm doesnt know the item you get disconnected when the realm doesnt "know" the item so explain me how to fake that
07:48.01Aenslaedoh, the item. Yeah, that items is real too.
07:48.41Elkanockknight, ItemDB ;)
07:48.41Aenslaedthe 8k to all stats item is real. its a bugged item and its dropped a few times. One person got banned on my server for solo running instances with it.
07:49.02copystring__haha
07:49.17copystring__its bugged ye i dont think it comes from a user
07:50.18Fisker-so ckknight tell us how to fake it :P
07:50.26ckknightElkano: is it on wowace svn?
07:50.42ckknightFisker-: by altering the enchantment/creation numbers
07:51.07Fisker-how do i construct a new link without making some mod then?
07:51.30copystring__and how do i use the item? :o
07:51.48ckknightyou couldn't use it
07:52.05copystring__i've heared of a lot ppl that used it
07:52.16Elkanockknight, not yet since I haven't finished it's ace recode. but it's on wowi
07:52.24Elkanohttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4418-ElkanosItemDB.html
07:52.38ckknightFisker-: by using DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(("someLink"):gsub("|", "\124"))
07:53.10copystring__:o
07:53.14Fisker-And "somelink" is the non-formatted code right? the r|blahbah?
07:53.19ckknightyes
07:54.06copystring__dont you get disconnected if the realm dont know the item?
07:54.24Fisker-it knows the item
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07:56.49copystring__if it knows the name its enough? lol
07:57.10Nargiddleytake an existing item with random stats, change the last number to -1, instant 'bugged' item link
07:57.32Nargiddleyits just changing the seed for the random stats basicly, not the actual item info
07:57.43copystring__dont know any "raw" items links
07:57.53Nargiddley/print "[Link Item]"
07:58.02copystring__ah
07:58.06copystring__sec will try
07:59.17Fisker-what's the color of epic in wow? :P
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08:00.52Nargiddleyselect(4,GetItemQualityColor(4))
08:01.03Fisker-nevermind
08:01.06Fisker-just used the print thingy
08:01.17Elkanoepic? |cffa335ee
08:01.23Elkanoiirc
08:01.35copystring__ok change stat to -1 how do i link that now as a item link
08:06.25CIA-1703adirelle 07filters * r26571 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua:
08:06.25CIA-17Cartographer_Quests:
08:06.25CIA-17- fixed filter SV (never mix values with ['*'] rule in RegisterDefaults),
08:06.25CIA-17- now properly registers guest givers with only one quest,
08:06.26CIA-17- added customized note tooltip that shows the current status of quests,
08:06.26CIA-17- should not register other player as quest givers.
08:06.40CIA-1703karlthepagan * r26572 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:
08:06.40CIA-17Cartographer:
08:06.41CIA-17<PROTECTED>
08:07.21Elkanobtw: KarlThePagan, Grouper's scan is still broken :/
08:08.00KarlThePagannot totaling up correctly?
08:08.43Nargiddley/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( ("[link]"):gsub("%d+\124h","-1\124h"):gsub("|","\124"))
08:08.47Nargiddleyinstant bugged item :P
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08:09.02copystring__i just found it out
08:09.11KarlThePagan~ping
08:09.23purlpong
08:09.23Nargiddley65535 agi neck heh
08:09.35KarlThePaganElkano, I probably missed your response - totals aren't correct still?
08:11.12KarlThePagan~ping
08:11.14purlpong
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08:14.17Fisker-:O Nargiddley ?
08:14.26Nargiddleyyeah ?
08:14.28Fisker-what does it do?
08:14.31Elkanowell, after I run a full scan, eg the dungeon categorie shows that it has found some players but none of the individual dungeons does
08:14.42Nargiddleyreplaces the last number of the item link with -1
08:14.54Nargiddleyand prints it back out as a clickable link
08:15.22Nargiddleydo it on a highish level item with random stats, the link will be bugged to have stupidly high stats
08:15.38Nargiddleywhich is where all the screenshots of items like that come from :P
08:15.44CIA-1703karlthepagan * r26573 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua:
08:15.44CIA-17Cartographer:
08:15.44CIA-17<PROTECTED>
08:18.35Fisker-fun fun
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08:45.31CIA-1703ammo * r26574 10Necronomicon2/Modules/SoulShard.lua: Necronomicon2: larger font for counter, don't destroy shards per default since I probably forgot a shardbag :)
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09:00.19NamsarHmm did I do something wrong or did aceupdater just delete all the libs folders for all my addons :(
09:01.33Adirelle|workNamsar: did you installed Standalone Libraries ?
09:01.37Adirelle|workI mean the packag"
09:01.45NamsarNope
09:02.16Namsarjust did my usual update, and it updated every single one, and none of them have anything in their libraries now...
09:02.44Adirelle|workyou don't have Ace2, *Lib directories ?
09:02.55NamsarOh they are there
09:02.58Namsarbut they are empty
09:03.18Namsarthe only ones that have files in them anymore are things like Kombatstats.. etc, ace mods that arn't on wowace.
09:03.58CIA-1703ammo * r26575 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Armor.lua: Necronomicon2: drycoded desaturation of the armor button when you don't have the armor spell on
09:05.07Leaf_ArchimondeIs it possible to use 'OnAttributeChanged' event handler with secure state button? It seems if i define my own, that disables build-in, so it's 'states' function don't work. Any way to somehow 'chain' or 'hook' it up?
09:06.27Adirelle|worknamsar: did you updated with or without externals ?
09:06.45Fisker-Anyone know linux?
09:07.01NamsarJust hit F10 :(
09:07.10Industrial#linux
09:07.19Fisker-Multipurpose channels?
09:07.20Fisker-No wai
09:07.38Industrialnah.
09:07.43Fisker-err
09:07.54Fisker-Curse you interlopers, you broke my statement
09:08.12Elkanook, now let's look how a lvl 70 will deal with BRD ^^
09:08.14Adirelle|workNamsar: what is F12 bind with ? with or without externals ?
09:08.22Adirelle|works/bind/bound/
09:08.52NamsarF12 is with externals F10 is... "Update all marked addons"  trying something now... removing them all and updating with externals.. see how we go
09:09.08Adirelle|workno need to remove them
09:09.19Adirelle|workjust hit F4 then update with externals
09:09.21NamsarI tried not removing them, it just skipped them all cause they are all there.
09:09.35Adirelle|workyou're right
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09:10.52CIA-1703ammo * r26576 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Healthstone.lua: Necronomicon2: drycoded healthstone creating / saturation of icon
09:12.14NamsarOk this is looking more promising all the externals are back, but makes me wonder why they disapeared in the first place
09:13.43NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: ping?
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09:14.51NargiddleyNightHawkTheSane, yeah ?
09:14.59Chosigreetings
09:15.14nee|workHi Chosi
09:15.23Chosimorning flying dutchman
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09:15.27nee|work;)
09:15.27Chosiany changes? :)
09:15.32nee|workI did not run into problems yet
09:15.38Chosiby the way, i was playing tonight at like 3am and it was soooo smoooth
09:15.42nee|workSo perhaps UIFaster 0 helped
09:15.44nee|work:)
09:15.46Chosino low fps at all :>
09:16.02NamsarThanks Adirelle, it worked out, somehow the F10 option to just "update all installed addons" didn't do the externals... but all done!
09:16.17NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: In baggins, if I say, hypothetically, accidentally clicked to load one of the pre-done profiles, would there be any way to restore what i had before?
09:16.27NightHawkTheSane><
09:16.55Chosii wonder who fucked with the versions yesterday
09:17.05NamsarNightHawk did you try ctrl-z ?
09:17.25NargiddleyNightHawkTheSane, alt+f4 before logging off or reloading ui
09:17.43NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: such a hack, but thanks, I didn't think of that.
09:17.48Nargiddleyi think that wont save to saved variables
09:17.55NightHawkTheSaneyeah, it shouldn't
09:18.06Nargiddleyor back them up now
09:18.09Nargiddleybefore trying it
09:18.11NightHawkTheSaneon a related topic, is it possible to get some "save layout" feature?
09:18.14Nargiddleythats safest
09:18.37Nargiddleyyeah, nearly done getting the lib to a releasable state
09:18.39Fisker-"One death is a tragedy. One million deaths is a statistic." -Chuck Norris
09:18.40Fisker-:D
09:18.47Nargiddleythen i can work on the config using it :D
09:19.09NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: neat :)
09:23.41Industrial"Salted cashew nuts are yum yum in my tummy." -Industrial
09:24.19IndustrialI should eat less of this crap :( Im already 86kg lol :P
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09:25.42NightHawkTheSanehmm.. cashews sound really good
09:26.11ZealotOnAStickI tried Necronomicon2
09:26.24Industrialbesides my own, cashews are my favorite nuts.
09:26.55CIA-1703nymbia * r26577 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Finish adding TBC 5-man bosses, Tradeskill.Tools tweaks
09:27.10[Ammo]Zealot: it's not really ready for trying :p
09:27.18ZealotOnAStickI know.
09:27.22NightHawkTheSaneNargiddley: that did work, thanks again. I really should have thought of that myself. >.>
09:27.23ZealotOnAStickI'm not sure why . . .
09:27.35ZealotOnAStickbut at first, just nothing was there.
09:27.48ZealotOnAStickthen after a /rl later, boom, buttons were there.  *shrug*
09:28.36[Ammo]hmm
09:28.40[Ammo]I think I know why
09:29.16[Ammo]but at the office atm
09:29.19[Ammo]so only drycoding :)
09:29.27ZealotOnAStick*nod* just letting ya know.
09:29.43ZealotOnAStickWill wait and see how things develop before I start throwing wants at you
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09:30.07ZealotOnASticknymbia, you about?
09:30.16[Ammo]suggestions are welcome, just dunno what I will do with them now :)
09:30.22nymbiaZealotOnAStick: yeah
09:30.27ZealotOnAStickwhat kind of info does PT3 have on JC gems?
09:30.38ZealotOnAStickor rather, socketing gems period
09:31.44ZealotOnAStickOne og my guildmates suggested a mod that just listed all gems in game that would fit X slot type.
09:31.54Industrialhow does pt2 improve pt2?
09:31.56nymbiaZealotOnAStick: it has sets containing all the gems of a given color, and a set that relates each base gem to all the possible things it can be cut into
09:33.40NightHawkTheSanenymbia: hm, which set is that last one?
09:33.52NightHawkTheSanemaybe i'm just missing it in pt3browser
09:34.02nymbiaTradeskill.Gem.Cut
09:34.17nymbiathe value is the things they can be sliced into
09:34.22NightHawkTheSaneahhh
09:34.36nymbiajust a list delimited by semicolons
09:34.36Chosianyone got an idea what fits meta sockets?
09:34.44nymbiameta gems ;)
09:34.48Chosio/
09:34.51Chosihooray for that
09:34.52NightHawkTheSane:P
09:35.10Chosii need a list of available gems :S
09:35.16Chosinow! ;)
09:35.32NightHawkTheSaneTradeskill.Gem.Meta?
09:35.40nymbialol
09:36.06Chosi:S
09:36.20nymbiahow about http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=cr=81;crs=5;crv=0
09:36.40Chosilooks lika a start
09:36.40Chosi;)
09:36.41ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Gems
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09:37.06Chosia reverse gemcrafting addon with whisperqueries would be cool
09:37.20PogoTribalhttp://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7601/desuikb4.jpg
09:37.21ZealotOnAStickWell, there's GemList now.
09:37.27Chosisomebody whispers you the raw gem and you whisper what can be crafted
09:37.28PogoTribalcompletely redid my UI
09:37.41Chosithe AH needs a gem category...
09:37.42Chosidefinitely
09:37.53ChosiPogoTribal: my eyes!
09:37.58Chosidamn that hurt
09:37.59Chosi:>
09:38.02PogoTribalWhat man?
09:38.08PogoTribalIt looks good.
09:38.16ZealotOnAStickI'd just like a simple one that would return all gems of X socket type compatability in a tablet or something.
09:38.24Chosiat least you still have 10% visible game content
09:38.25Chosi:p
09:38.34Chosipoor healer :)
09:38.37PogoTribalFuck that, I want info.
09:38.49PogoTribalThis game could be stick figures and it won't matter.
09:39.11WraithanWhat resolution do you plat at?
09:39.13WraithanPlay
09:39.16PogoTribal1280
09:39.19PogoTribalSS is resized
09:39.21WraithanAh ok
09:39.38PogoTribalYou wanna see my old one? : http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3936/desetaiuiwf2.jpg
09:39.42WraithanWhat mod do you use for the actionbar moving of buttons
09:40.12PogoTribalAlso, old raid healing UI: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6150/desetaiuigq7.jpg
09:40.18WraithanI used to use flexbar for stuff like that, but it is being redone
09:40.22Chosihttp://666kb.com/i/alaj5ifeo2nzbljul.jpg
09:40.27Chosilightweight \o/
09:40.34PogoTribalWraithan: Bartender3
09:40.37Chosieven tho squeenix doesn't fit too well into the xart thing ;D
09:41.05PogoTribalFirst of all, that's a rogue.
09:41.15Chosiyeah that's what i sais earlier
09:41.17PogoTribalYou use 5 buttons.
09:41.20Chosipoor healer :)
09:41.24Chosi:>
09:41.27PogoTriballol
09:41.35PogoTribalyeah I'm gonna work on my DPS classes tomorrow
09:41.44Chosiwell my first char was a 60 paladin, then a 60 tauren druid
09:41.47Chosinow a rogue
09:41.48WraithanHeh, my shaman has so many buttons shwoing =/
09:41.51Chosiand well i like the rogue best
09:41.54PogoTribalChosi
09:42.00TekkubYour challenge is to write crossover fanfiction combining Chapelle's Show  and Calvin & Hobbes . The story should use furries  as a plot device!
09:42.24PogoTribalYou should get rid of your bags and use the FuBar plugin for the system buttons
09:42.36Chosiyeah i know, this looks stupid
09:42.40PogoTribalThen youg ot room for your damage log and you can put it in the right side and remove the chat tabs
09:43.05Chosithey're not there anyways
09:43.07Chosii was mouseovering
09:43.21PogoTribalWhat do you use for that?
09:43.29PogoTribalI want action bars that disappear.
09:43.32IndustrialTekkub: lol
09:43.37Chosiprat
09:43.42Chosifor chat
09:43.54Chosiyo. rhyme!
09:44.42Chosi"FuBar plugin for the system buttons" is what?
09:45.31PogoTribalFuBar_MicroMenuFu
09:45.35Chosithanks
09:45.39PogoTribalYou can see it in my first SS at the bottom
09:45.55Chosibtw the KCIFu doesn't work properly :/ seems to lack localisation
09:45.57PogoTribalAnd I just hit shift+B to open bags
09:47.39PogoTribalBTW what do you use for that texture on the bottom?
09:49.01Adirelle|workwhat the point with meta gems ?
09:49.11PogoTribalmeta sockets
09:49.14Adirelle|work"Requires at least 5 red gems" ???
09:49.15PogoTribalhigh end gear sockets
09:49.37PogoTribalso you can't make overpowered level 62 gear, Iguess
09:49.58ChosiPogoTribal: Xart
09:50.10Adirelle|workI can't get the point of requirements : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25901
09:50.32Chosigonna edit it now so the the minimap sphere is gone
09:50.34Adirelle|workdoes it mean you have to have at least X gems of each type on your whole stuff to have the meta-gem enabled ?
09:50.41NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: yes
09:50.48Adirelle|workinteresting
09:51.01Adirelle|workanother variation of the rune words :)
09:51.11NightHawkTheSaneeach meta gem has a requirement listed on it for it to work, like "more blue gems than yellow" or "requires 5 blue gems" etc
09:51.17NightHawkTheSanekinda :)
09:51.47Adirelle|workwowhead browsing interface kicks ass
09:54.00nee|workhttp://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiok6.jpg - mine
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09:54.55ChosiNightHawkTheSane: where do i get the requirements from?
09:55.24Chosii have an item with a red and a meta socket. i don't think there are any requirements but a red gem on this one ;D
09:55.52IndustrialI am going to do something new. I will attempt to write comments in my code. dun dun DUN!
09:56.16Chosisick!
09:56.17Chosi:)
09:56.55Industrialyeah i know, but its a test :P
09:56.57Chosii need a knight rider light for my interface
09:57.03Chosi:>
09:57.05Industriallol
09:57.16Industrialyour mount needs one.
09:57.30Chosihttp://666kb.com/i/alaj5ifeo2nzbljul.jpg
09:57.32Chosidown there
09:57.37Chosisee that empty bar? ;D
09:57.53Chosiwell maybe an energy ticker could go there. even tho it's lame
09:58.59Tekkubknight rider?
09:59.02Tekkubfuck that
09:59.06TekkubKITT was a cylon
09:59.36Industrialnooo, kitts "swoosh" is way cooler
09:59.46Tekkubtotal cylon
09:59.57NightHawkTheSaneChosi: the meta-gem itself has the requirement, not the item
09:59.57ZealotOnAStickDavid Hasselhoff is going to be one of the Final Five.
10:00.03TekkubfuhLAMEing!
10:00.22NightHawkTheSanefor example: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25896
10:00.35NightHawkTheSanethat meta gem lists the requirement as "at least 5 blue gems"
10:00.51Chosihaha kEnergy fits perfectly
10:01.01ChosiNightHawkTheSane: ah okay
10:01.37Chosifuck that! kEnergy's max width is 400 :/
10:02.34Industrial400? why would you want it that wide?
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10:03.23jjb_good morning
10:03.40jjb_1024x768 energyticker?
10:05.04nee|workPerhaps he wants to use it as the top border of his bottom texture
10:06.29Fisker-wtf Chosi
10:06.33Fisker-you say "moin"?
10:07.01Industrialwhats wrong with moin
10:07.02Industrial:D
10:07.27jjb_only germans here :)
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10:08.34Industrialhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin
10:08.34Industrial:p
10:09.11Fisker-hoho
10:09.18Fisker-Used by a lot of people i see
10:09.18Fisker-:P
10:09.40Chosi[2007/01/30 10:58:15-43-x1]: Cartographer_ZoneInfo\ZoneInfo.lua:11: AceLocale(Cartographer-ZoneInfo): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
10:09.40Chosiwoot
10:09.44nee|workYes, lots of fresians here
10:09.48ChosiFisker-: we do :)
10:09.55Fisker-Well it's also used in denmark
10:09.57Fisker-and in german
10:09.59Fisker-and in the netherlands
10:10.04Fisker-and in finland
10:10.10Fisker-and then also sweden and norway probably
10:10.10Chosiwell i am in germany. looks like the reason for that ;SD
10:10.11Chosi-S
10:10.14Fisker-:o
10:10.15nee|workI've never heard it being used in the Netherlands, but people type it online a lot
10:10.30nee|workeven random people, not from Germany nor Holland
10:10.45jjb_because its "stylisch" :)
10:10.46nee|workIt's like the 'teh' and 'qq' and other rubbish I think :(
10:11.14nee|workI really hope people will return to using proper English some day.
10:11.32nee|workAh well.
10:11.38IndustrialI invented teh in like 1996
10:11.44Industrial*cough*
10:11.45Chosiso if anyone needs help with german localisation
10:11.47Chosijust hit me
10:11.49Chosi:)
10:12.16jjb_i play a mage, and people think they get water when they ask "water plz?"
10:12.21nee|workIndustrial: And it was rubbish immediately :P
10:12.28Chosihttp://666kb.com/i/aleipttiubm6izgn7.jpeg
10:12.32Chosichanged some stuff
10:12.43Chosithe steel agUf looked way too childish
10:12.43Chosi:>
10:13.05krkayeah, who wants a game that looks childish!
10:13.07nee|workWhy is there a minimap icon in the bottom-right corner?
10:13.12IndustrialChosi: this ag_Unitframes texture needs borders to look good imo. It looks empty now.
10:13.20nee|workI use Striped as texture
10:13.20Chosidunno. looks like xart anchors it there
10:13.34Fisker-hide it with some cartographer or squeenix
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10:14.10IndustrialSchurke
10:14.10Industriallol
10:14.25Chosik gone
10:14.27Industriallocalisation is so cheesy >_>
10:14.29Chosiyeah it's german ffs :P
10:14.55nee|workSchurke sounds cute :)
10:15.01nee|workLike some small furry creature
10:15.05Industriallol
10:15.13Chosion holland it's Olliebollen
10:15.20Chosi*in
10:15.20Chosi;D
10:15.24nee|workhttp://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~zsolt/images/Schurke.gif
10:15.33Chosilol
10:15.56jjb_haha
10:16.02nee|work:)
10:16.11Chosianother schurke
10:16.12Chosi:P
10:17.52nee|workYou must get this: http://www.rpg-shop.com/catalog/catalog/images/14270303.jpg
10:18.15Chosi;D
10:19.10nee|work'Ein zwergischer Goldsucher mit grauem Bart, einem Auge für Fallen und einer Nase, die Ärger förmlich riechen kann' :)
10:19.40AzurewrathWe have a turkish Rogue in our Guild.. and since turkish is "Türkisch", we call him Schürke ;p
10:19.48nee|work'Der Liebling der adligen Gesellschaft' :)
10:19.56nee|workhehe
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10:21.21jjb_hmm, i now see, that i can't see any "umlaute" :)
10:21.39Chosifix your charset
10:21.39Chosiöäüß
10:21.39Chosi:P
10:21.55jjb_hmm, only from nee
10:22.06nee|work:)
10:22.18nee|workI win ;)
10:22.26Chosibtw anyone got warned for using autounstuck to travel? :>
10:22.29jjb_nee, deine kann ich nicht sehen :)
10:22.36nee|workChosi: Never.
10:22.37jjb_you looooooose
10:22.40nee|workoh :(
10:22.52nee|work*sob*
10:22.58Chosihearthstone shattrath, portal ironforge, auto unstuck shattrath
10:22.59jjb_you use utf8?
10:23.03Chosi:>
10:23.45nee|workme?
10:23.50nee|workNot a clue
10:24.02nee|worknow I do
10:24.17nee|workä
10:24.22nee|workë
10:24.27nee|workï
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10:37.42CIA-1703sylvanaar * r26578 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Drycode of the api which will allow modules to add new segment to the chatline. This should provide an orderly way to resolve conflicts when updating the same part of the chat line
10:38.26Fisker-aww more breakage
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10:39.31Fisker-oh hi sylvanaar, i didn't see you there
10:39.32[Ammo]breakage ftw
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10:43.34jjb_*g?????hn*
10:44.57Chosi*gaehn*
10:44.58Chosi:p
10:45.18jjb_deine umlaute sehe ich
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10:48.17jjb_is there a way to find out the memory usage for each addon?
10:48.24nee|workwarmup
10:48.29nee|workbbs.
10:48.34jjb_and how?
10:48.41Chosi/warmup
10:49.13jjb_because GC every 3 minutes
10:55.18nee|workI think warmup is the best you can do though
10:55.18jjb_i see the memoryconsume of the addons?
10:55.26jjb_if one addon is running amok?
10:55.59Aenslaeddoes anyone know how to fix this problem I am having with aguf?  If I hold down alt, i can't click on any of the unit frames
10:56.44nee|workNope, it works for me like that.
10:57.01Aenslaedits irritating because I've patterned myself to press alt 3 then click my portrait (max rank HT).
10:57.05nee|workjjb_: Perhaps you want teksupport
10:57.21jjb_i dont get this teksupport running
10:57.26nee|workAenslaed: You hold alt+3 while clicking?
10:57.39nee|workjjb_: Get SupplyAndDemand and load Teksupport using that
10:58.02AenslaedNeebler: alt + 3 is my bottom left action bar slot 3 keybinding
10:58.57Aenslaedand it often goes, natures swiftness, target myself, alt + 3 not always in that order. Holding down alt while i try to target myself via aguf doesn't do anything.
10:59.10nee|workhm
10:59.45Aenslaedand I dont have any spare keys to bind to just targetting myself. F1-F5 are all rebound to other things. :/
10:59.46nee|workI use alt-click-casting too, but I do not hold alt and something else, I just alt and click a mouse-button. I use Click2Cast though
11:00.03Fisker-You can't invoke more than one hardware event by a button press right?
11:00.17Aenslaedi just want aguf to ignore if i have alt held down
11:03.17jjb_This addon is Load-on-Demand, it may require a stub addon to work! <- ok, i have to rtfm :)
11:03.48[Ammo]or type: /ace2 load TekSupport
11:03.51[Ammo]that should work :)
11:05.44[Ammo]anyone know if Core Felcloth Bag is still the largest shardbag?
11:07.12sylvanaari havent heard any mention of a larger one myself
11:08.14packetlss[Ammo]: there is a 28 slot Shadowcloth shard bag, which is cheaper to make than Core bag
11:08.23ZealotOnAStickThere's a new one from lower city rep or vendors.
11:08.28ZealotOnAStickbut it's still just a 28 slot.
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11:09.45[Ammo]packetlss: I need the name
11:09.56WraithanAnyone use Ace2 stuff in macros?
11:09.57CIA-1703rabbit * r26579 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.toc: DeuceCommander: Add AceDB to TOC.
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11:10.13ZealotOnAStickEbon Shadowbag
11:11.57CIA-1703ammo * r26580 10Necronomicon2/ (Locales/enUS.lua Modules/SoulShard.lua): Necronomicon2: add Ebon Shadowbag
11:12.20[Ammo]otherwise necro2 will delete all shards from ebon shadowbag :p
11:12.35[Ammo]when the destroy option is enabled
11:14.06ZealotOnAStickoh, as for suggestions . . .
11:14.14CIA-1703rabbit * r26581 10Quixote/ (. Quixote.toc): Quixote: Add missing dependencies.
11:14.32ZealotOnAStickJust basic things like moving and scaling, tooltips, options other than "Enable" and profile.  Things I'm pretty sure are all going to happen.
11:15.10ZealotOnAStickas I said yesterday, I have high hopes for something that'll handle all my warlock needs other than spell timers.
11:15.41[Ammo]it's something I intend to make indeed
11:15.53[Ammo]I'm going for seperately movable buttons
11:16.01[Ammo]probably add support for cycircled or something
11:16.05[Ammo]so you can change the style
11:16.17Silviu-It will look like necrosis ?>
11:16.41[Ammo]no
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11:17.05ZealotOnAStickI'm to the point right now where I'm running out of buttons to put things on as I level and get more nifties.
11:17.32nee|workHow many button-bars do you have then?
11:17.36Chosidamn
11:17.54Chosithe cartographer_import plugin needs some lvlup
11:18.03Chosican't set the imported gatherer nodes as waypoints :|
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11:21.14WraithanZealotOnAStick: pick up a barmod that gives you more action bar buttons :D
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11:22.46Silviu-[Ammo] have a lil screenie how it looks now ?
11:23.04[Ammo]it looks like default action buttons
11:23.08[Ammo]that can be dragged seperately
11:23.16Silviu-Aham
11:23.21Silviu-Oky :P
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11:25.03Silviu-ZealotOnAStick take a look at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6816-FarInspect.html
11:25.15Silviu-Maybe u can find how to inspect creatures
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11:26.55[Wobin]I just spent six months in a leaky boat
11:27.00[Wobin]<clapclap>
11:27.07[Wobin]six months in a leaky boat...
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11:27.38CIA-1703ammo * r26582 10Necronomicon2/ (Locales/enUS.lua Modules/SoulShard.lua): Necronomicon2: use itemid's for soulbags, no localization needed ftw.
11:28.23[Ammo]only localization left in necro is the text stuff yay
11:28.40[Ammo]lunchtime
11:29.08[Wobin]hm
11:29.08Fisker-That wasn't localization
11:29.10Fisker-THAT WAS H4X
11:29.22[Wobin]somehow, using an external backup drive always seems much more... solid than writing to dvd
11:30.21[Wobin]I feel much more comfortable relegating my data to one than to burning
11:30.27Fisker-Only fools would mistake dvd's for real backup
11:31.30[Wobin]well, for the home user, dvds are a viable option
11:33.06Fisker-yeah
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11:38.06Chosianyone got some ace2 enemy castbar?
11:38.13Chosii don't want it to be integrated into my aguf
11:38.19Chosi:/
11:41.30Chosimh waybe i could use the blizzard one ;D
11:42.03CIA-1703wobin * r26583 10/branches/Cartographer_Waypoints/: Created folder remotely
11:42.36copystring__Fisker-
11:43.29CIA-1703rabbit * r26584 10FreeRefills/Core.lua: FreeRefills: Fix buying items from merchants, haven't tested bank yet.
11:43.48nee|workwoo!
11:43.59nee|workThat means I can use FreeRefills again :)
11:44.28CIA-1703wobin 07Wobin * r26585 10Cartographer_Waypoints/: Created folder remotely
11:45.02Chosickknight you there?
11:45.29CIA-1703wobin 07Wobin * r26586 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (. Waypoints.lua): Cartographer_Waypoints - Switching to branch to give me room to commit possibly unworking code as I switch between home and work
11:46.18nee|workHm. I just realized I have not had a gold whisper in days
11:47.19Wobinpsst, nee|work: want to make some easy in game money?
11:47.24nee|work:P
11:47.34nee|work./sentry report
11:50.25nee|workhm. SpamSentry is in the wiki, but not on wowace.com/files?
11:51.20[Ammo]it's because it's not ace2 (anymore)
11:51.35nee|workoh
11:51.43nee|workBut the Wiki page should be removed too then I think
11:52.10CIA-1703rabbit * r26587 10FreeRefills/Core.lua: FreeRefills: Bank seems to be working as well.
11:52.17nee|workhuzzah ;)
11:52.32CIA-1703ammo * r26588 10Necronomicon2/Core.lua: Necronomicon2: memory usage optimization
11:53.48tlundh
11:53.54nee|worki
11:53.55CIA-1703ammo * r26589 10Necronomicon2/Modules/SoulShard.lua: Necronomicon2: better naming
11:54.10tlundhmmmm.. i want a FuBar-plugin that just gives me a configurable amount of blank space...
11:54.14tlundis there such a thing?
11:54.14xyuare there any addons available that when an enemy player performs some sort of recognizable action that a log would catch it and add their name to a list?  there used to be an addon that does this
11:54.31xyua configurable ?
11:54.32tlundthat would allow me to create four or more "groups" of icons, instead of just left/center/right
11:54.35xyuor considerable? :D
11:54.41tlundconfigurable :)
11:54.41xyuoh
11:54.43tlundin pixles
11:55.20CIA-1703rabbit * r26590 10FreeRefills/Core.lua: FreeRefills: When adding items and not specifying a stack size or item count, just return silently rather than causing an error, thus confusing noobs.
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11:55.30Wobintlund: a sort of spacerFu sort of thing?
11:55.35tlundyeah
11:55.37xyui dont think so.  i just use top and bottom fubars,  all my option specific or "working" fubars go on the bottom. all my "observatory" fubars go to the top :D
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11:55.49WobinIt'd be hard to use more than once then
11:55.55tlundxyu: i really really just want one, and at the top :)
11:55.55Wobinsince it'd already be 'loaded' once
11:56.08tlundyeah
11:56.16tlundbut i only need one for now anyways :)
11:56.22xyuyeah i just dont have that many fubars i guess
11:56.23tlundok, soo let me tell you my real problem
11:56.25xyui only have like 5
11:56.35tlund[l1 l2 l3                c1 c2 c3             r1 r2 r3]
11:56.44tlundsay those are my 9 plugins
11:56.47tlundleft, center right
11:56.56tlundthe problem is that l3 is _really_ wide, and cover c1
11:57.04tlundsoo i want to move the "center" part to the right:
11:57.11tlund[l1 l2 l3                      c1 c2 c3       r1 r2 r3]
11:57.14tlundlike that.
11:57.24tlundthat way, l3 will not cover c1
11:57.28nee|workCan you increase the spacing on the left of center 1?
11:57.29tlundand i want to solve it by doing this:
11:57.38tlundnee|work: how do i do that?
11:57.43tlundnee|work: i found no such setting? :)
11:57.50xyuthere's a slide bar i think
11:57.52xyufor spacing
11:57.54nee|workI am not sure, I just thought there was an option for spacing that could be used for this
11:58.03xyuthere is
11:58.03nee|workBut that's only between perhaps
11:58.07tlundxyu: not for that kind of spacing, only between c1 and c2
11:58.13tlundnot a specific one for "left of c1"
11:58.14tlundor?
11:58.15xyuyeah that i'm not sure.
11:58.40tlund[l1 l2 l3              ssssss  c1 c2 c3       r1 r2 r3] <- that would be my "space" plugin. its in the center group, to the left.
11:59.02tlundsoo its really "c0", but its just blank, soo it doesnt matter if it gets covered up
11:59.03xyuare there any texts or icons you could remove?
11:59.06xyufrom the l's
11:59.24Wraithanmake bars
11:59.31tlundxyu: yes, sure, i could solve this in other ways, such as for example moving stuff from "l" to c or r, but thats now what i want :)
11:59.35tlundWraithan: thats now what i want either.
12:00.06Wraithanmake something yourself?
12:00.12xyuwell i think the short answer is: no there isn't one out there that you want ^^
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12:00.33tlundWraithan: yes, if nothing is available i will look into writing one myself. it cant be that hard to make a plugin that does nothing :)
12:00.46tlundi guess there is already some skeleton code, or exampls for how to make a FuBar-plugin?
12:01.11CIA-1703rabbit * r26591 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Clear the StaticPopupDialog editbox OnHide.
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12:01.18xyuoh btw
12:01.26xyuyou can change the spacing on just "left aligned" fubars
12:01.31xyuas well as center and right
12:01.35tlundyes
12:01.41tlundbut thats just the spaccing between the modules
12:01.46tlundnot the spacing between the groups
12:02.02tlundyou can make it "l1     l2      l3" or "l1l2l3"
12:02.22xyutry "thickness"
12:02.28xyuoh that's not it
12:02.31xyuthat's just panel thickness
12:02.36xyunope nope, guess not
12:07.45CIA-1703ammo * r26592 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Healthstone.lua: Necronomicon2: drycoded attempts at rightclick healthstone trading.
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12:19.34CIA-1703rabbit * r26594 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix ignored slots when updating sets.
12:20.02anenigmacan you set factionfu to hide other and inactive when it loads?  I can't find any options for it
12:24.18nee|workI do not know if that's possible.
12:28.59Arrowmasteri thought factionfu did hide inactive when it loaded
12:29.10_neuron_http://howtoprankatelemarketer.ytmnd.com/ <-- this is the best ever
12:30.25CIA-1703archarodim * r26595 10Decursive/ (Todo.txt localization.es.lua):
12:30.26CIA-17Decursive:
12:30.26CIA-17- Small update to localization.es.lua
12:30.26CIA-17- Updated Todo.txt with new things to do^^
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12:50.10Fisker-oh my gods
12:50.56copystring__Fisker- you got those fake links working? doesnt work for me
12:51.01Fisker-yeah
12:51.10nae|workFake links?
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12:51.25Fisker-Someone tried to tell me that a program automating keypresses would be allowed cause /castsequence did the same
12:51.32Fisker-nae|work insane items with insane stats
12:51.38Fisker-or normal items with insane stats
12:51.50copystring__explain me please i've tried and doesnt work
12:51.50nae|workCustom links in-game?
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12:52.11Fisker-yeah nae|work
12:52.26Fisker-Well copystring__ you need the command nargiddley wrote
12:52.36copystringye
12:52.36Worfif i understand correctly then this opens up a whole new way of spamming the trade channel :)
12:52.39Fisker-And then you paste in a new TBC item which is green
12:52.41copystringi tried with this
12:52.48copystringah a NEW item
12:52.57Fisker-Yeah, it doesn't work with older items
12:53.00Fisker-only new TBC items
12:53.04Fisker-and only greens
12:53.08nae|workwell, off home. *poof*
12:53.12copystringjust the item name? or raw link?
12:53.59Fisker-the one you get from a normal itemlink yeah
12:54.07copystringokay
12:54.18_neuron_why do I get invalid commit note on "nQuestlog: More module friendly code, tons of tweaks"
12:54.43vhaarrCapitol L.
12:54.45Wobintry 'nQuestlog - More...'?
12:54.48Wobinoh yeah
12:54.50_neuron_yeah I will
12:54.57copystringso like this [Wrathfin Mantle of the Bandit] ?
12:54.58_neuron_but was it changed on purpose? :P
12:55.07Wobinhm
12:55.13WobinCartographerNotes
12:55.17_neuron_that didn't work either
12:55.30WobinThe 'unique' id is just the coords?
12:56.09WobinnQuestLog ?
12:56.33_neuron_yes Wobin
12:56.52vhaarr.nQuestLog: ...
12:57.02copystringFisker-, may i query you?
12:57.03Wobin.n?
12:57.05_neuron_yeah I guess I could do that
12:57.23CIA-1703neuron * r26596 10nQuestLog/ (7 files in 2 dirs): .nQuestlog: More module friendly code, tons of tweaks
12:58.42_neuron_kergoth, couldn't commit with "nQuestLog: changes" or "nQuestLog - changes", used .nQuestLog.
12:59.30CIA-1703archarodim * r26597 10Decursive/Decursive.toc:
12:59.30CIA-17Decursive:
12:59.30CIA-17- Fixed toc file for the wikki bot
12:59.45Fisker-copystring sure
12:59.52WobinWhy the '.n', vhaarr?
13:00.01_neuron_Wobin, it bypasses the checks
13:00.07Wobinhehe
13:00.09_neuron_which is bad, but I afaik didn't do anything wrong so I did it anyway ;)
13:00.11Wobinsneaksy
13:00.23[Ammo]your problem was nQuestlog vs nQuestLog
13:00.33[Ammo]learn to type your addon name correct! :p
13:00.38WobinNah he tried that
13:00.55Wobinor did he? =)
13:01.12Wobinwell not in that commit specifically
13:01.22_neuron_svn -m "nQuestlog: More module friendly code" commit <-- was blocked
13:01.42_neuron_but a very good suggestion [Ammo], I had to check :P
13:01.54_neuron_oh nvm /me reads more commit attempts :P
13:02.03_neuron_he's right :P
13:02.24_neuron_kergoth, I bet it'd work if I spelled my addon correctly, bad bug report, /me slaps self.
13:02.25[Ammo]see the 'l'
13:02.30_neuron_yeah I noticed :P
13:02.33[Ammo]'L' vs 'l'
13:02.40[Ammo]k
13:02.59_neuron_another mystery solved mr [Ammo] :P
13:03.47WobinI thought that's what we suggested originally =)
13:04.15_neuron_yeah you did Wobin, but I didn't notice the change in capitalization :P
13:07.48Elkanorunning BRD with a level 70 is fun ^^
13:08.31vhaarr[Ammo]: Nub, I said that 7 minutes before you did.
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13:09.11vhaarr[13:52] <vhaarr>Capitol L.
13:09.25WobinJust like Washington DC
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13:10.01_neuron_and in my defense I just woke up :P
13:12.19copystringFisker-, afk? :o
13:12.35[Ammo]vhaarr: haha ok :)
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13:13.43arJUnahttp://www.bumptop.com/
13:15.23Wobinhm
13:15.26Wobinconceptually nifty
13:15.33Wobinbut not very practical
13:15.45arJUnawho cares about practical? =P
13:16.03arJUnaand i would consider it practical
13:16.17arJUnaobject based desktop
13:16.37Wobingranted, I have no idea how stuff is manipulated
13:17.34arJUnawatch the youtube vid
13:17.45arJUnaspecially the photo-manipulation stuff
13:17.54vhaarr^^
13:20.45copystringits cool
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13:25.36Fisker-copystring nope
13:25.45Fisker-But you have to register to the network if you want to pm me :P
13:25.59copystringlool okay
13:26.09copystringsec
13:30.11CIA-1703rabbit * r26598 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (7 files): FuBar_LocationFu: Support Sanctuary and adjust colors slightly.
13:30.13copystringshould work now
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13:35.20zerokarmaleftwow, it took me way too long to discover the svn repository
13:36.25zerokarmaleftwhat are things i need to back up from any existing addon directory before doing a fresh checkout?
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13:38.43zerokarmalefte.g for addons that save data between sessions
13:38.48zerokarmaleftor is that data stored someplace else
13:39.08arJUnajust copy ur Interface/Addons directory
13:39.25arJUnaWT is yoru stored variables
13:39.27Fisker-http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/sonic.swf
13:39.29arJUnaWTF
13:40.12zerokarmaleftok cool
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13:47.45Diabolic-Destinyheyy
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13:52.35copystringlol Fisker-
13:53.06copystringhttp://augenkrebs.de.vu/
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13:57.44arJUnaomg my eyes
13:58.30copystringhaha
13:58.52copystringin english the website is called ayecancer
13:58.56copystringeyecancer
13:59.38Maranathathere an ace equiv of KLH?
14:01.15copystringdont think so
14:02.39_neuron_does wow ui designer work for tbc? current patch?
14:02.44_neuron_cuz it crashes and burns for me
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14:04.25MaranathaI've done a few things in it but it appears to be hit or miss for ppl
14:05.29Nickenyfikenlol Ace explosion ftw
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14:18.27Nickenyfikenhmm
14:18.29Nickenyfiken[2007/01/30 15:17:48-761-x1]: Cartographer_Battlegrounds\Battlegrounds.lua:11: AceLocale(Cartographer-Battlegrounds): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
14:18.40Nickenyfikenget this on a alot of addons
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14:24.01CIA-1703wobin 07Wobin * r26599 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (Notepoint.lua Waypoint.lua):
14:24.01CIA-17Cartographer -
14:24.01CIA-17Waypoints :
14:24.01CIA-17- Waypoint is the base class, NotePoint is the inherited to deal with notes/poi/etc specifically.
14:24.02CIA-17- Currently only stores information.
14:25.12MyrathiOkay - probably a stupid question but: what's the difference between updating with and without externals with the Ace Updater? ie: what does it mean by "external"? O_o
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14:25.28kenlyricembedded libs.
14:26.07kenlyricyou'd do it without externals if you were doing standalone libs.
14:26.42MyrathiEr..
14:27.11kenlyricand if you don't know what that means, just choose to update with externals.
14:27.25Mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp0HyxQv97Q
14:27.27MyrathiSo if MyAddon has /libs/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua ...with externals will replace that file even though it's inside /MyAddon ?
14:27.59Wobinaye
14:28.43WobinGenerally, if you have that directory, you'd want to use with externals
14:29.05Wobinbut if you understand how they work enough, you can delete them and use the standalone libraries
14:29.15sylvanaarNickenyfiken to fix, for just once time change the wau setttings to skip version check = true, delete before extract = true
14:29.35sylvanaarNickenyfiken then update everything
14:29.44Wobinhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater
14:29.48sylvanaarNickenyfiken then  change the settings back
14:30.09Nickenyfikeni did and for some reason i refuse to update it properly :-/
14:30.19Nickenyfikenhad to manually dl a couple of addons
14:31.15sylvanaarit doesnt refuse silently usually
14:32.01Wobinwoo beta 3 available
14:32.13sylvanaardont use it - just wait for an update
14:32.34AndyGwhat I normally do when stuff like that occurs is to load up wau, mark the addons, manually delete them from the addons folder, and then start update
14:32.43Wobindon't use beta 3?
14:32.57sylvanaaryou can - but dont use F10
14:33.11kenlyricbut it's so big and bold :)
14:33.12Wobinanyway., night =)
14:33.20WobinI'll wait for whatever update then =)
14:33.22kenlyricyeah, I hear f10 eats babies
14:33.32Wobineven though for me it's usually F4 F12
14:33.33sylvanaarit has a bug i fixed last night
14:33.55Mikmafreaking good video
14:33.57KirkburneBay has announced that it will no longer accept listings for virtual items and accounts for online games like World of Warcraft
14:34.03kenlyricug
14:34.06sylvanaarit installs the opposite (external/no-external)
14:34.14Mikmapeople can't understand difference between .002 cents vs. .002 dollars
14:34.15MyrathiWobin: I used !!!StandaloneLibraries to haul stuff into the main addons dir.. then just use those. Half of 'em don't update, though. I'm assuming that's 'cause they don't have a folder of their own in /files/ on the website?
14:34.28kenlyricwhy is my garbage collection broken. I'm so tired of it firing when I'm crossing a bridge into halaa
14:34.49Kirkburnkenlyric, lol, same kind of problem
14:34.57KirkburnBloody annoying :)
14:35.38kenlyriccourse, I have to find what is making my mods grow from 38 to 80mb and forcing a GC within 20 minutes.
14:37.01sylvanaarkenlyric just allocate more ram so it gc's less
14:39.38kenlyricyeah, I guess. This will be the third time I've upped it in the past week. Something is screwing me up royally. It wasn't like this a week ago. I had it set at 48, had an base mod usage of 26mb, and never even thought about GC.
14:40.11sylvanaarmake it real big - then you can probably tell pretty easily which  mod is causing it
14:41.06AndyGshould be an addon that lets you know which addons use how much memory
14:41.09AndyGis that even possible?
14:41.38sylvanaarkenlyric you use ~100 addons?
14:41.45kenlyricthere's warmup, but that only helps with loading issues. I don't give a flip how long it takes to load.
14:41.59AndyGyeah :P
14:42.02kenlyricsylvanaar: actually, almost exactly 100, though that includes blizz addons.
14:42.27kenlyricenabled addons = 89
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14:42.45kenlyricAce2 addons 262? ;)
14:42.49sylvanaarkenlyric mine are 222 total, i dont know enabled
14:44.50CIA-1703kagaro 07Talismonger-3.0 * r26600 10kagaro/ (3 files): Talismonger-3.0: code rewrite
14:45.30CIA-1703kagaro 07Talismonger-3.0 * r26601 10kagaro/ (Talismonger-2.0.lua Talismonger-2.0.toc): Talismonger-3.0: removed old version from branch
14:45.48kenlyrichmmm... it doesn't seem to like looting or tooltips...
14:45.53sylvanaar~Talismonger
14:46.22CIA-1703kagaro 07Talismonger-3.0 * r26602 10kagaro/: Talismonger-3.0: updated external
14:47.46kenlyricis there a way to make wow think it needs to GC more often?
14:48.29CIA-1703sutorix * r26603 10FishingAce/FishingAce.toc: FishingAce: Fix Author tag to be the same as wowace login?
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14:53.01steev64is it wowhead.com ?
14:53.05steev64or .net?
14:53.16steev64must be .com
14:53.21neeneecom
14:53.28neeneeor type wowhead in google :)
14:53.29hastekergoth: I fixed the error I asked about earlier :)
14:53.43steev64neenee: does me no good, its not loading here
14:54.10abbat_whaste...
14:54.20hasteabbat_w: hello
14:54.29abbat_wi lost ability to update you addons with wau ;(
14:54.41hasteand?
14:55.00abbat_wand i think you should put you great addons back to wowace ;)
14:55.04neeneesteev64: Hm. Let me check.
14:55.22hasteno, I won't
14:55.23neeneesteev64: Nor here. Perhaps they are doing maintenance
14:55.34hasteIt will never happen, and that's the final word on that case
14:55.50abbat_w:~(
14:57.39steev64haste: sad as that makes me, i don't care where you host em, they are good stuff and worth "tracking down"
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15:03.53MyrathiHm. Anyone got around to doing a Grid config GUI yet?
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15:05.23neeneeDoes it need one then?
15:05.35neeneeThere's the very extensive Fubar thing already
15:05.50MyrathiBeen discussing it in /g and most folks are still confused by the menu for that reason :)
15:06.12MyrathiPersonally, the menu's all I need (once I got to know where things were)
15:06.14neeneeWell, have them post on the forums with their issues. Perhaps the options need to be changed around a bit for it to be more.. accessable.
15:06.33MyrathiI don't think accessibility is the issue - there's just a -lot- of 'em :D
15:07.19neeneeEven a GUI would have a lot of options/buttons
15:08.03MyrathiMhm. I think it's the visual feedback in large format that's the main thing they were looking for.
15:08.20neeneehm
15:08.31MyrathiMost went "ooooh" at the mock-up that pastamancer posted in the thread.
15:08.39neeneeI doubt they like many Ace addons then :|
15:09.07MyrathiMost don't have more than two dozen addons, in total. :)
15:09.32neeneeah
15:11.03MyrathiFor more than a few, their modlists consist of fubar, ctmod/ctra, bigwigs, cartographer, grid (plus extras) and maybe auctioneer.
15:11.17neeneehm
15:11.21neeneeI think we have some of those too
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15:11.50neeneeThey tried ora2/bigwigs when ctraid was broken, but then rushed back to ctra as they're not fond of change, even if it's an improvement :|
15:11.56MyrathiIt's rather sobering to look at their interface folder, then at my own and go "hm. and here I only have about 90". :D
15:12.15Myrathiora2 caused a -lot- of folk to crash every few minutes after login.
15:12.25MyrathiNever could work out what about it was causing it.
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15:12.59Adirelle|workweird, changed some weeks before 2.0, never had any trouble, neither before or after
15:13.03MyrathiAny time there's a new revision, I re-test it. Disable it - everything works peachy. Enable it - crash after a few minutes.
15:13.18MyrathiI know. Damn frustrating.
15:13.23Adirelle|workand the synchro of bigwigs is just amazing, compared to the spam of CTRA
15:13.28MyrathiA lot of folk swear by the mix.
15:13.33Klazarwhat addon is suggested to list all the players on yourside in BG
15:13.45MyrathiBigWigs? Absolutely brilliant. I have all of CTRA's crap turned off and everything comes from BW.
15:14.15MyrathiBut for the raidwindow side, I still use CTRA or Grid.
15:14.17neeneeKlazar: The Score Board
15:15.01Klazark thnx
15:15.08neeneeI couldn't fix your brakes, so I made your horn LOUDER!
15:15.15Adirelle|workMyrathi: as a hunter, I only use Grid, just configured a bit to clearly show who is dead or alive, and who benefits of the three hunter auras (nature, pack, TSA)
15:15.40MyrathiGrid is amazing - even for my rogue.
15:16.04jjb_is it true, that you can't change the groups anymore in combat?
15:16.22MyrathiAnd as a warrior too, surprisingly. Seeing who catches aggro is seriously easy and makes it a lot easier to CC when you're in a swarm and can't watch 360deg at once ;)
15:17.00KlazarOk what I need is player health status so I can heal
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15:17.12IndustrialKlazar: just install it and play with the menu
15:17.14Myrathijjb_: You can change the groups about if you're dead - even when the rest of your raid are in combat ;)
15:17.18Klazark
15:17.36Adirelle|workKlazar: take a look at the wiki before :)
15:18.05Adirelle|workKlazar: understanding what are grid/cells/statuses and how they combine helps a lot
15:18.48Adirelle|workthat's not really complicatedn but it is even easier with some clues
15:19.12Klazarthnx will do
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15:20.47MyrathiMm. I need to convert CashNotify over to Ace2. Surprised by how many people still use it. O_o
15:21.04Wobin"You gain 1g" ?
15:21.17MyrathiYeah. That and merchant collation.
15:21.34Industrialwhat do you need ace for
15:21.38Industrialtbh
15:22.00MyrathiEvent catching etc. My local copy's a bit more complex and I want to hook it into FuBar =)
15:22.46MyrathiThe FuBar hooking pretty much requires ace-ifying.
15:24.00KlazarAdirelle|work: R U talking ab out Grid or Scroe Board for my question? Looks like Grid is what I want only need to dumb it down for what i need
15:25.14Adirelle|workKlazar: Grid
15:25.33WobinMyrathi: As long as you hook into MSBT or SCT and throw up a "1 up!" and the mario 'extra life' sound each time you hit 100g =)
15:25.35Klazarkk!
15:25.58neeneeWobin: That's funny :)
15:26.11Adirelle|workpurl, Talismonger is an Ace2 library to provide events and information about gathering professions
15:26.12purlokay, Adirelle|work
15:26.19neeneeWobin: I'd rather have some Keen sounds though
15:26.32neeneeWobin: Or how about the 'WAAAAH!' sound from Rick Dangerous :)
15:26.35neeneelol
15:26.37neeneeI loved that
15:26.40neeneewwwaaaaaAAAAAAHH!
15:27.16MyrathiOk. The 1-up thing is tempting. ;P
15:27.49neeneeBut the Rick Dangerous sound is fun too :)
15:27.56neeneesteev64: wowhead is back up
15:28.14Adirelle|workneenee: more or less... it's laggy
15:28.27neeneeyea :|
15:29.56neeneeHm.. Is nQuestLog suddenly using Quixote?
15:30.07_neuron_neenee, it always was :P
15:30.17_neuron_well, all the versions I made available on wowace.com anyway
15:30.23Gnarfoz_*sigh* fucking line-ending bullshit leading to another 'almost all addons update' scenario, can't be arsed to read all the changelogs
15:30.24neeneeHm
15:30.39neeneeBut I updated before I started the game just now, and it gave me errors because I did not have quixote
15:30.49_neuron_neenee, the externals should be working fine..
15:30.54neeneeHm
15:31.05_neuron_just checked em too
15:31.16_neuron_not just the updater screwing up your standalone libs? :P
15:31.19neeneeOh, I used F10 this time to update. That doesn't get externals?
15:31.26_neuron_:P
15:31.38Adirelle|workit should but it seems there a little bug
15:31.51neeneeAh.
15:31.52Adirelle|worklike a '!' where it shouldn't be
15:31.55neeneeI'll use F12 again
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15:32.15Adirelle|worklike in if(!externals) instead of if(externals) or something like that :D
15:32.16neeneehm. it finds no updates though
15:32.28Adirelle|workyep, you'll have to  reinstall
15:32.32neeneeoki
15:32.42neeneeer, reinstall waht
15:32.43neenee*what
15:32.48Adirelle|worka feature to export/import addon list would be so fine...
15:32.55_neuron_just reinstall nQuestLog, remove it and it should regrab it I'd imagine
15:32.58neeneeok
15:32.59neeneephew
15:33.01neeneeNot everything then
15:33.13_neuron_or you could grab it manually from files.wowace.com ;)
15:33.15_neuron_should work too
15:33.25neeneeyes, I'm doing that
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15:33.42Industriallooking for someone that knows how to make an actionbar swap pages on stances and modifiers
15:33.51neeneeThough I am not very fond of nQuestLog yet, I'm giving it a try for a bit longer.
15:33.55_neuron_and having people manually edit xml files is sadistic, wtb working designer (no I couldn't get the other one working)
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15:36.28_neuron_neenee, it's still in heavy development, so if you want something added this is a good time to suggest stuff ;)
15:36.35neeneeoki
15:36.54neeneeI'll go over it carefully, to see what I bump into. It's mainly inconvenience compared to other quest logs/minions I'm used to
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15:37.52Industrialim loving it, and use it instead of fubar_quests
15:37.59neeneeHm. It feels crowded. That's something I find annoying. Large font, so it's readable, but it's all packed together.
15:38.12_neuron_neenee, yeah I'm working on trimming down the information overload
15:38.28_neuron_trying to make a quest details frame so you can see the questgiver location module I added though
15:38.36neeneeok
15:38.38_neuron_but I'm not loving xml right now :P
15:38.40Industrialtip: place the number of items needed and total for each point to the right
15:38.42Industrialerr align*
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15:38.52_neuron_hm, yeah, that might be a good idea
15:39.08Industrialalso, total numbers arent really needed imho, i mean you are going to need to count the sub points one by one anyway
15:39.35Industrialthat would make it a bit easier to look at :D
15:39.38_neuron_I use my smart quest tracking though, so I dont see quest objectives ;)
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15:40.11Industrialbut you see them when you are doing a quest, right?
15:40.12Funkeh`hey all
15:40.14neeneeI use the smart tracking too, but I'm still getting used to how different it is
15:40.17_neuron_yeah..
15:40.18neeneeHi Funkeh`
15:40.25_neuron_neenee, yeah you can feel free to disable that if you can't get used to ;)
15:40.31_neuron_just trying it per default to see if it'll work
15:40.42_neuron_Industrial, yeah, gonna look into changing that
15:40.50_neuron_hm, maybe only show it when the details are hidden?
15:41.03neenee_neuron_: I'll give it a workout this evening while questing.
15:41.04Industrial^^ just my $0.02
15:41.10_neuron_yeah it was a good idea
15:41.13SarozNew cartographer /tloc is <3.. removes the icon once used, ftw
15:41.20_neuron_I have a tendency of going way overboard with information :p
15:41.24_neuron_(and color coding :P )
15:42.30Fisker-germaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaans
15:42.33Fisker-where are youuuuuuuuuu?
15:42.47WobinIn Germany
15:42.48Wobinduh
15:42.50Industrialhier :D (j/k im dutch)
15:43.01Industrial(yet hier is also hier in dutch)
15:44.17Grinewhich mod is this smart questtracking in _neuron_ ?
15:44.19Fisker-:(
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15:45.45neeneeGrine: nQuestLog
15:45.52Grinehmmkay
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15:46.11Amadeohaha, Warrior Spell Reflect is bugged
15:46.19Fisker-uh duh?
15:46.25Fisker-It's a warrior skill
15:46.29Fisker-Of course it's bugged
15:46.51AmadeoIf you use it to damage a mob, you lose some exp that you would normally gain from that mob without it
15:47.06AmadeoIf you do over 50% damage through Spell Reflect to the mob, you won't gain exp at all
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15:47.17_neuron_heh..
15:47.39CIA-1703kodewulf * r26605 10Cartographer_Vendors/addon.lua:
15:47.39CIA-17Cartographer_Vendors
15:47.39CIA-17* Fix
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15:48.05AmadeoIt's probably WAI :P
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15:50.02CIA-1703ammo * r26606 10Necronomicon2/ (Modules/Trance.lua Necronomicon2.toc): Necronomicon2: added drycode shadowtrance/backlash warning
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16:02.36Fisker-trance ftw
16:02.37CIA-1703pettigrow * r26607 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: frFR Update
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16:07.35CIA-1703rabbit * r26608 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Protecting all buffs now protects everything that has a duration. Things like mounts, shapeshifts, etc, have no duration, so they will be cancelled if pressed.
16:09.41Amadeoholy shit, Age of Conan looks incredible in DX10
16:10.36neeneeDoes it run using DX9?
16:10.37Elkanovhaarr, is there a way to have ClosetGnome show the sets an item is in in the item's tooltip?
16:11.12Amadeoneenee: probably
16:11.25Amadeonobody would be stupid enough to make a game DX10 only at this point
16:11.31Amadeomaybe in a year or two
16:11.36vhaarrElkano: Yeah, ClosetGnome_Banker does that.
16:11.46neeneeAre you sure the difference in looks between 9 and 10 is due to DirectX?
16:11.49vhaarrElkano: I'm considering moving it to CG actual, though.
16:13.11vhaarrElkano: But try Banker, the new Flush! functionality rocks.
16:13.45Amadeoneenee: Hell, I don't even know the difference at all, I just saw it in DX10 :)
16:13.48ElkanoI'm in the process of doing a svn co on it
16:14.11winkillerI just got a Cinamon Roll at Starbuck's that look EXACTLY like thr lvl55 food - I wonder if Blizz got the idea there
16:14.17neeneeAmadeo: oki :) Then the game just looks good, not because it's DX10 :P :)
16:14.38AmadeoWell, I'm sure DX10 brings quite a bit to the table
16:14.50neeneewinkiller: Yes, I think Blizzard used a picture of a cinnamon roll to create the texture of the Cinnamon Roll icon :)
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16:15.09winkillerI've never seen anything like that in Germany before.
16:15.11neeneeAmadeo: Not a clue, nor do you have a cluek, as you don't know the difference :P
16:15.14neenee*clue
16:15.21winkillerwe only got other rolls.. never seen an actual cinnamon roll
16:15.40Amadeoneenee: You sound more like you're looking at it from an anti-MS perspective, to me :)
16:16.10neeneeAmadeo: That's not my intention. I just don't give credit without being sure something has indeed contributed.
16:16.25Industrialhttp://static.flickr.com/4/5160902_9d420b63ce.jpg
16:16.26Industrialoh those
16:16.31Industrialyum :-D
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16:17.35Amadeoneenee: Those cinnamon buns are DX10
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16:17.47Amadeohaha
16:17.50Industrialhehe, its a nice photo
16:17.57NeeblerI won't allow a cinnamon bun near my face unless it has frosting on it!
16:18.03Brunersckknight: any reason that the iconpacks to cartograhper aint working any more?
16:18.05AmadeoFrosting is important
16:18.12neeneeAmadeo: :)
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16:22.33HjalteIs there a way to have some kind of gui for kc_items, even a dewdrop?
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16:25.06Wobinman, we need properties in AceOO
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16:31.32Industrialzomg i want a hostname like that
16:31.33Industrial:P
16:31.39Industrialmask*
16:33.43neeneeI like my hostname better
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16:39.11[BiS]Pkekyo|aw(''') (ô.Ô) (''') RAAAAAAWR!!!!!!!111
16:39.11[BiS]Pkekyo|awOMG TEH BARE WANTSES COOKIES!!!!!!11
16:39.11[BiS]Pkekyo|awRUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!1111
16:39.25Barbanusheh
16:39.34[BiS]Pkekyo|awI'm bored >_<
16:40.04Barbanusspeaking of bear, I started playing my level 54 druid again
16:40.31Barbanuslast night, (now 55), I was doing about 230 dps, which is more than my level 66 paladin does
16:40.38[BiS]Pkekyo|awrofl
16:40.51[BiS]Pkekyo|awdruids've been buffed into oblivion
16:40.59BarbanusMangle is amazing
16:41.07[BiS]Pkekyo|awyeah
16:41.22BarbanusI was running swstats, watching what dmg I was doing from things ...
16:42.11[BiS]Pkekyo|awwth is swstats anyways? used to have it, but can't remember for what purpose...
16:42.15Barbanusit was like 50k white, 50k mangle, 15k ferocious bite, 5k rake, 5k pounce, 5k ambush thing .. whatever its called
16:42.24JoshBorke[BiS]Pkekyo|aw: damage meter
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16:42.34[BiS]Pkekyo|awah
16:42.58Barbanusthe best part .. no downtime
16:43.22[BiS]Pkekyo|awyeah
16:43.27Barbanuskill stuff in cat form until I am 50% health, pop out, rejuv, regrowth, back in ... keep killing
16:43.34[BiS]Pkekyo|awI wanna trade my warrior for something...leveling is a drag!
16:43.46Barbanusif my mana ever gets low at all ... innervate, kill shit while it regens
16:44.05BarbanusI never drank, ate, or anything in about 4 hours of questing
16:44.11[BiS]Pkekyo|awWTB lvl 70 durid
16:44.18BarbanusYeh, lol
16:45.20neeneeI had some people whisper me near the beginning of TBC to trade accounts with me as I had a druid. Silly people
16:45.26deltronwtb my ass to 70 :P
16:45.29deltroni'm so lazy
16:45.31[BiS]Pkekyo|awrofl
16:45.56[BiS]Pkekyo|awthis swede in my guild is leveling like a fricking chinaman...thinking 'bout having him level my warrior >_<
16:46.05Ordogthat druids get their "flying mount" for free is just unfair ^^
16:46.18deltronI've not leveled much
16:46.19Adirelle|workBarbanus: almost same with a BM hunter
16:46.30deltronI'm still on hellfire peninsula quests, and I'm level 64 :P
16:46.33neeneeer no, they're only getting a normal one, not the epic one
16:46.52Ordogstill 800g !
16:47.05Adirelle|workand this is not the "mount" but the riding skill
16:47.21Ordogthe mount price doesnt matter :)
16:47.23[BiS]Pkekyo|awI'll sign that petition, Ordog
16:47.39BarbanusAdirelle|work, yea, the new mana aspect helps too I bet.. how much does that regen?
16:47.42neeneeI know, but even 800g is not much nowadays and still, then the paladins and warlocks should be complained about too.
16:47.54Adirelle|workBarbanus: 25% of intellect every 5 sec
16:47.56Ordognah no petition
16:48.03neeneeAnyway, there's enough complaining and bickering on the forums about this, no need to start one here.
16:48.14Ordogim getting my flying mount payd by druid that doesnt need that gold then ;P
16:48.19BarbanusAdirelle|work, so how much are you getting per tick?
16:48.31neeneeOrdog: Everyone needs gold :)
16:48.41Adirelle|work37 mana
16:48.44deltronI respecced my shammy last night, still 41 in resto heh
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16:49.03Ordoga guildie bought 1000g and spend it in 2 weeks ... well i guess you are right ^^
16:49.03stavmar_I have a question about the WAU
16:49.07Adirelle|worknot that munch, but 0 mana doesn't mean 0 damages
16:49.12BarbanusAdirelle|work, thats decent...
16:49.14Adirelle|works/munch/much/
16:49.35Sarozhttp://thottbot.com/beta?sp=37130 <<-- hrm
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16:49.48stavmar_I am getting the same revision for many of the downloads rev 26541. It is using that same revision for half of my addons, should each revision be a different number?
16:49.55Adirelle|worki've got my pet that heals me 130 hp every 10 sec (and it heals itself around 150/10 sec)
16:50.16BarbanusSaroz <<== http://thottbot.com/beta?sp=32841
16:50.35Barbanusits amazing what kind of things they put into the game :P
16:50.39Sarozbeta spell
16:50.52Barbanusits still in the game files :)
16:50.59Sarozsure, gief
16:51.07Adirelle|workstavmar_: there was a repository-wide update, that's why lots of addon have the same revision
16:51.12deltronlol that'd be so sweet
16:51.20Adirelle|workstavmar_: it doesn't matter anyway
16:51.30stavmar_ok I was just worried, thank you
16:51.39Barbanusdeltron, heh yea
16:51.41deltronas long as the revision is newer than what it was before hehe
16:51.48Ordogthat mass rezz Cast Time1.5 seconds << -.-
16:51.49Adirelle|workstavmar_: np
16:52.02Barbanusthe Mass Res is in "paladin spells" but it says "Classes Priest"
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16:52.35Ordoghttp://thottbot.com/beta?sp=11411
16:52.39Ordogwhat is that?
16:52.43Barbanushttp://thottbot.com/?c=Paladin still has it listed, lol
16:52.51Adirelle|workI can't even imagine how that could be nasty in PvP... paladin rezzing the foes you just killed
16:52.56BarbanusI saw it .. and almost crapped my pants
16:53.12neeneeThat thing is of an NPC though
16:53.36BarbanusDo you remember this quote? "Rise my champion!"
16:53.41BarbanusThat should explain it ...
16:54.03BarbanusSomeone tell me they know what fight that is from :P
16:54.14neeneeSure
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16:54.21neeneeThat's from the Scarlet Monastary
16:54.27neeneeThe Cathedral
16:54.27Barbanushehe, yea.
16:54.36neeneeBlades of Light!
16:54.50neeneeI will rip the secrets from your flesh!
16:54.52BarbanusI'm pretty sure that what that is from.
16:55.01neenee:)
16:55.17Adirelle|workBarbanus: about the mana regen aspect, I'm BM specced so not so aimed at intellect, but MM hunters may be (1 int = +0.45 RAP with talents), so they will regen even more
16:55.53BarbanusAdirelle|work, thats a well needed skill .. I'm really glad hunters got it
16:56.07BarbanusI've noticed a lot of hunter gear having mp5 on it now too
16:56.35Adirelle|workyep, with steady shot, mana burns as gazoline
16:58.26CIA-1703mok * r26612 10item2phpBB/ (5 files):
16:58.26CIA-17item2phpBB:
16:58.26CIA-17- added option to add a timestamp
16:58.26CIA-17- added local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("item2phpBB") to every file... how can i prevent this?
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16:59.52deltronoooh woot off today
17:01.57Fisker-hmm
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17:02.08Fisker-what's item2phpBB and why can i not see it? :O
17:02.23neeneebored? play the best 110 flash games at http://samoe.ru
17:02.31Barbanustoc is probably out of date
17:02.38deltronwowitem hack for phpBB?
17:02.40stavmar_kergoth:  ping
17:02.43Mokno
17:02.58Fisker-Barbanus if whitemane used mass ressurection i guess the encounter would be a bit worse
17:03.04Mokit creates a string of your items in bank/inv/equip that can be postet to an itemstats enabled forum
17:03.05Fisker-The one she uses is "Scarlet Ressurection"
17:03.25neeneeIt might be the spell the Battleground ressers use?
17:03.28Moki dunno why it doesnt get listed on files.wowace
17:03.38Fisker-I doubt it
17:03.50neeneeWell, something uses it and it's not a player :)
17:03.52Fisker-It was first spotted in 2.0
17:04.06Fisker-And i think the ress spell in BG's are just the "Waiting for ress" spell
17:04.24Fisker-And there are rumors that the spell might be in a book
17:04.42CIA-1703karlthepagan * r26613 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:
17:04.42CIA-17Cartographer:
17:04.42CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:07.19pastamanceritem2phpBB isn't showing up in /files because the capitalization of the toc doesn't match the capitalization of the folder
17:07.38CIA-1703mok * r26614 10item2phpBB/ (4 files):
17:07.39CIA-17item2phpBB:
17:07.39CIA-17- i'm a svn-newb
17:08.07Moka thx pastamancer
17:08.44deltronlol mok
17:09.22Funkeh`karl please fix your waypoint ties to the main cartographer module, it loads with errors if you don't load the waypoint module
17:09.40Mokhow could i know, im on windows xD
17:09.46deltron:P
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17:10.52CIA-1703mok * r26615 10item2phpBB/item2phpbb.toc:
17:10.52CIA-17item2phpBB:
17:10.52CIA-17- fixed toc to match capitalization of files
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17:20.52deltronhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16875766?GT1=8921  <== lol
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17:26.48Adirelle|workmok: that's not specific to SVN but out-of-windows world
17:30.31CIA-1703rabbit * r26616 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: ClosetGnome_Banker: Don't pollute the global scope.
17:31.24WobinFunkeh`: Karl isn't on here
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17:36.42Funkeh`he should be
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17:48.22NeoTronAlthough I suspect it's an issue with how maps worked, I missed being able to set a waypoint to another zone when I was flying to honor hold from Shadowmoon Valley
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17:55.27Mokadirelle|work: the "i'm a svn-newb" commit was another story :)
17:55.55Mikma_neuron_: hmm, how can i hide the zones that i do not track?
17:56.07_neuron_Mikma, it's a setting for it :P
17:56.17_neuron_in zone layout
17:56.19_neuron_show empty zones
17:56.20_neuron_turn that off
17:56.40Mikma_neuron_: thank you :)
17:56.50_neuron_np
17:57.52NeoTronWTB: 3000g on Blackhand alliance. I'll pay you with a finished version of my tetris addon. ;-)
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18:02.03Mikmatoo bad ColaLight doesn't have a GUI to see items
18:02.43Adirelle|worki'm off, going home
18:03.40CIA-1703wobin 07Wobin * r26620 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (Notepoint.lua Waypoint.lua Waypoints.lua):
18:03.40CIA-17Cartographer:
18:03.40CIA-17- Waypoints
18:03.40CIA-17* Single map assigned waypoint now working
18:03.40CIA-17* Waypoints.lua pared down to bare minimum for conversion
18:05.14NeoTronWobin: What does "single map assigned waypoint" mean?
18:05.28Wobinrightclick on note -> "Set as waypoint"
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18:05.44Wobinas opposed to commandline assignation
18:05.55Wobinand future waypoint chaining
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18:08.43NeoTronok
18:08.50neeneeChosi: The problem just popped up again :|
18:08.58Chosi:/
18:09.02NeoTronI take it making a waypoint to another zone is hard?
18:09.04Chosimust be serverside :}
18:10.19ravagernlpeople, anyone know how to get those links working for websites, where you mouseover a link and you get a pooopup box of the item ( allakhazam style )
18:10.32neeneeI'm not sure what it is, but it's very annoying.
18:10.38neeneeNow I must reboot again soon to fix it
18:11.12WobinNeoTron yes
18:11.22Wobinor at least I haven't explored the possiblity
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18:11.38neeneeChosi: I thought of using a much older nvidia driver, but I am not sure that would help.
18:11.40NeoTronwhen flying it would rock
18:11.49Wobinbut the general issue is that coordinates along the edges don't match up btween zones
18:11.50NeoTronbut I don't know how it'd work
18:12.17Wobineg, Zangarmarsh vs Nagrand and Terokkar
18:12.20NeoTronright
18:12.30neeneeravagernl: Not a clue, but usually instructions are included with the download of the forum/site modification
18:12.42NeoTronyou'd perhaps be able to use coords on the outlands-level map but I don't know how / if you can convert
18:12.58kenlyricriding through darnassus, I've decide that we need to rush the blizzard offices and harass them until they make flying mounts work in azeroth.
18:13.05NeoTronhehe
18:13.11NeoTronman that'd be so nice
18:13.15ggilbert_kenlyric: I'm up for it
18:13.21ravagernlneenee: yeah itemstats it is, itemstats.free.fr but the author didnt list any sql
18:13.22Wobinbut impossible =P
18:13.26NeoTronI mean outlands is cool and all for flying but the flight paths aren't THAT bad there
18:13.28ggilbert_I'd be satisfied if they would just refuse to fly
18:13.44NeoTronthat'd be an improvement
18:13.50kenlyricNeoTron: besides, there aren't any level 12s to swoop down on.
18:13.50NeoTronbut of course then they are no benefit
18:14.02NeoTronhehe yeah
18:14.02ggilbert_NeoTron: an extra bag slot
18:14.09NeoTronggilbert_: warlock. ;-)
18:14.14ggilbert_and some slight UI simplification
18:14.46NeoTronso apparently there's a rare elite dragon (looks like onyxia almost) in Blade's Edge
18:14.49NeoTronneed to fly to get to it
18:14.53kenlyricso much for people doing naxx for the legendary staff... http://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/news/nightbane-dnt.jpg
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18:15.23ggilbert_NeoTron: hehe. There's two elite dragons in Blade's Edge :p
18:15.33ggilbert_one isn't so rare though
18:15.41NeoTronkenlyric: ah but it has no group aura effect and doesn't teleport  the group
18:15.56NeoTronI saw this rare giant and I figured i'd kill him
18:16.00kenlyricscrew them all. That staff is hotness.
18:16.02NeoTrontoo bad he also was ++elite
18:16.10NeoTronwho did they kill?
18:16.24kenlyricThey need a better designation system then elite/non-elite.
18:16.32kenlyricAt least quests now give you an idea of how strong they will be.
18:16.41NeoTronyeah
18:16.59NeoTronthis dude had 90k HP and hit like a truck
18:17.08NeoTronand was of course immune to fear
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18:17.31NeoTrona warlock did apparently solo him but he was affliction and use curse of run slowly or something to kite him
18:17.35kenlyricimmune to fear sucks.
18:17.43kenlyricI can solo most 2 and 3 man elites if I can fear them.
18:17.58NeoTronI've solod 2-3 man elites solo when they are immune :)
18:18.07NeoTroneven without points to drain tank
18:18.18NeoTronlike the big spider in SE terokkar forest
18:18.18kenlyricget away from me, warlock.
18:18.29kenlyricyou're already two people anyway.
18:18.32NeoTronit was close though. much easier when I can feer
18:18.34NeoTronfear
18:18.44NeoTronhey I want to try lolimp spec
18:18.58NeoTroni.e demo/destro to make the imp a literal cannon of pain
18:19.08NeoTronI think solo he could do some 500 dps with my current gear
18:19.46NeoTronproblem is keeping an imp with less than 2K hp up as the main tank as I couldn't possibly pull aggro (and wouldn't want to since I couldn't cast spells if hit on)
18:21.16kenlyricif the mobs were smart, they'd kill the imp first.
18:21.24kenlyricThat's what I do with warlock mobs.
18:21.35NeoTronwell
18:21.41NeoTronthey would go for the imp
18:21.45NeoTronso I'd have to keep him alive
18:21.59NeoTronbut apparently you just dot the target and then health funnel
18:22.16NeoTronI can heal close to 400 HP per second and with the right talents he gets decent damage mitigation
18:22.31NeoTronobviously he can't handle 2k per hit mob but neither can my other pets
18:23.14neeneeChosi: You have not experienced the problem yet?
18:23.20Chosino not yet
18:23.35kenlyricam I too stupid to make fishingace work?
18:24.06sylvanaarwho maintains closetgnome?
18:24.07neeneeChosi: oki
18:24.12neeneekenlyric: Get Metrognome
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18:25.50Idyllayay WAU is doing all the addons again ;d
18:27.32durcynsylvanaar: rabbit aka vharr
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18:28.12CIA-1703zacwolf * r26621 10AEmotes_FullMetalJ/ (14 files):
18:28.12CIA-17AEmotes_FullMetalJ: initial commit
18:28.12CIA-17- Artist Addon for AEmotes to add soundclips from FullMetalJacket
18:28.13vhaarrsylvanaar: I do.
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18:30.26kenlyrichmmm.. this doesn't seem like it would be that complicated.
18:31.02CIA-1703zacwolf * r26622 10AEmotes_FullMetalJ/:
18:31.02CIA-17AEmotes_FullMetalJ:
18:31.02CIA-17- Add eol prop and logtemplate prop
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18:33.28kenlyricah, got to double click :)
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18:34.19CIA-1703kagaro 07Talismonger-3.0 * r26623 10kagaro/Talismonger-3.0.lua: Talismonger-3.0: Code refactoring completed .. going into testing phase
18:35.29Fisker-hahah
18:35.33Fisker-fukken 0wned
18:35.50Fisker-"We are happy to tell you... blah blah FUCKING PET GO LOGIN NOW!"
18:36.01rpowers__does the author of onebag/bank/view frequent this channel? (i ask this without knowing who the author is)
18:36.05Fisker-Oh and i didn't have collectors edition on this account i got it on
18:36.32rpowersor, i guess I can just ask... has anyone else noticed OneView not displaying certain TBC items that are in your inventory/bank? onebag/onebank show them fine
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18:37.01NeoTronso I reinstalled arkinventory and discovered the sorting option. now I'm a happy camper
18:37.23NeoTronit's perfect. better sorting options than baggins and doesn't constantly rearrange the layout
18:37.36chutwighappy cramper
18:39.18neeneeChosi: I turned down Terrain Distance to the lowest setting and it runs fine, but as soon as I turn it up past 50% it's horrible again. There must be something that can be done with that info :(
18:39.19Funkeh`i used to use ArkI before it started lagging
18:39.28Funkeh`3mb memory spikes when moving an item
18:39.31Funkeh`no thanks
18:39.35Chosi:/
18:39.36Funkeh`baggins does me fine
18:39.51Chosii have absolutely no idea what it is :|
18:40.11NeoTronman this guy got owned so bad. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=70809504&sid=1
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18:42.14neeneeChosi: Me neither. But I know it didn't happen before a certain patch
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18:44.00CIA-1703wobin 07Wobin * r26624 10Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (Notepoint.lua Waypoints.lua):
18:44.00CIA-17Cartographer:
18:44.00CIA-17*general cleanup
18:45.22neeneeChosi: How much ram does your WoW process use?
18:45.47Chosi397
18:46.06Wobinlemme know if you find a solution neenee
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18:48.40rpowersNeoTron, that thread is pure awesome
18:48.44CIA-1703zacwolf * r26625 10AEmotes_Leeroy/ (19 files):
18:48.45CIA-17AEmotes_Leeroy: initial commit
18:48.45CIA-17- add "Leeroy" soundbites for AEmotes
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18:48.58doktoreashi to all
18:49.06doktoreasis the current fuba, working for you?
18:49.25doktoreas*fubar
18:49.35neeneeChosi: 378 here, but often it's 4xx
18:49.40neeneeBut I doubt that's it
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18:49.49neeneeI even ran without swapfile without problems before
18:49.51doktoreasi just updated and it's not working...can i download an older revision?
18:50.48NeoTronrpowers: I found it amusing.
18:51.17CIA-1703zacwolf * r26626 10AEmotes_Leeroy/:
18:51.17CIA-17AEmotes_Leeroy:
18:51.17CIA-17- add eol-style and logtemplate props
18:51.39kenlyricscrew all these additions. MORE JC emotes!
18:52.05kergothoi, toadkiller's ignorance is astounding
18:52.36neeneeChosi: Hm.. And now, after a while of running with the lowest terrain distance setting, I put it back up and the problem seems to be gone
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18:56.14Loxhey guys...  got a question
18:56.24neeneeSure, ask :)
18:56.41Loxis it possible to tell how much mana you have and based on that, cast a spell
18:56.49Loxin a macro or script
18:57.15LoxI know I can use UnitMana("player")
18:57.24neeneeYou can not automagically, without hardware event, cast a spell when your mana is low.
18:57.29Loxbut CastSpell... is protected
18:57.41Loxdon't want to
18:57.48Loxwhen I hit the macro button
18:57.51NeoTronI don't think you can do that in-combat
18:57.53Loxsee how much mana I have
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18:57.57NeoTronbut out of combat it should work
18:57.57neeneeYou just want to mash a button again and again and if you have low mana, cast a spell?
18:58.15Loxyeah
18:58.18NeoTronisn't that broken with the protected functionality (i.e conditional casting in general)
18:58.32Loxthat's what I'm wondering
18:58.49NeoTronpretty sure you're out of luck
18:58.50Antiarc|WorkYou know, after WoW UIs, I really find HTML to be gimped.
18:59.15NeoTronthe functionality you want is just the basic version of "automatically downranking" essentially
18:59.40Loxkind of...   here is a stupid example that I know is wrong:
18:59.41Antiarc|WorkI want to be able to SetVertexColor() on a block element, or anchor elements to each other, or scale elements dynamically.
18:59.41Lox<PROTECTED>
18:59.41Lox<PROTECTED>
18:59.42Lox<PROTECTED>
18:59.45Antiarc|WorkCan't do it.
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19:00.37Loxpretty sure you can't break up a /script line like that...
19:00.52neeneeChosi: Okay, OpenGL runs horrible, so that's no alternative
19:01.02NeoTronLox: out of combat, that should work
19:01.40LoxAre protected functions only locked during combat, or all the time?
19:03.29neeneeChosi: I'm going to clean out all my driver bits and install the driver that came with the card.
19:03.30neeneebbs.
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19:04.43hastekergoth: I agree with toadkiller! You clearly need a better editor
19:06.06Barbanuslol I'm assuming this is coming from some forum post :P
19:08.29kenlyricstop breaking all of his mods! ;)
19:08.50kenlyricyou young whippersnappers with your carriage returns and line feeds. Get off my lawn!
19:10.57kergothhow does http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4497.msg79472 look?
19:11.16kergothhaste: yeah, i'm glad my editor will fix everyone elses fuckups.  that must be one hell of an editor
19:11.26haste:D
19:11.28CIA-1703funkydude * r26627 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: fix and re-arrange shattered halls
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19:12.17deltronheh w-hat
19:12.33kergothtoadkiller getting his panties in a bunch over the line ending fixups
19:12.41kergoth"dont touch my addon" crap
19:12.48deltronare people coding in wordpad?
19:12.51kergothwhat the hell are you doing in an open community repository if you dont want collaboration?
19:12.58kenlyricno, wordpad does line endings just fine.
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19:13.06kenlyricnotepad screws them up pretty bad.
19:13.09neeneethere.
19:13.14neeneeAll clean drivers now.
19:13.22WobinI bet it doesn't help =)
19:13.26kergothsomeone read the post i just linked please, could use a sanity check
19:13.26neeneeditto :(
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19:13.28Funkeh`i use notepad++
19:13.29deltronah, I use scite for coding, but I haven't ever coded any lua scripts
19:13.52Funkeh`i think it works ok anyway :s
19:13.53kergothi'm trying not to get pissed, but i've spent hours trying to keep this repository in shape, and toadkiller getting all bitchy over lost 15 minutes makes it rather hard
19:14.04hastekergoth: Looks good enough
19:14.31durcynkergoth: only valid criticism imo is the lack of advance warning, shrug
19:14.34_neuron_kergoth, wern't you gonna update the svn rules and block bad commits?
19:14.44kergoth_neuron_: yeah, i havent heard back from kael :\
19:14.49_neuron_ah :/
19:14.50kergothi dont have write access to that wiki page atm
19:14.54deltronmake everyone use scite with the svn plugin
19:14.58deltronor is it a cvs plugin -_-
19:15.33kergothdurcyn: true, but advance warning wouldnt have stopped the bitching, someone still would have had local modifications and be pissed off about it
19:15.48Barbanuskergoth, nice post.
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19:16.35CIA-1703funkydude * r26628 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: add Shattered Halls Bosses/Loot
19:16.41deltronkergoth: lay down the smack :)
19:16.57durcynkergoth: sho 'nuff, but then you're justified in saying "i warned you!"
19:17.03kergothhehe, true that
19:17.08durcynyou can even do it in the monty python Tim voice, "oh, but no, it's just a harmless little bunny"
19:18.06CIA-1703mok * r26629 10item2phpBB/ (item2phpBB_.toc item2phpbb.toc):
19:18.07CIA-17item2phpBB:
19:18.07CIA-17- rename item2phpbb.toc to item2phpBB.toc part 1/2
19:18.19Loxkergoth: I like it.  Right to the point.
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19:18.32neeneeChosi: The game seems to run better now though. Perhaps it was a conflict with the latest driver afterall, but only time shall tell.
19:18.40Chosiyeah
19:18.41deltronkergoth: man you really pissed Toadkiller off :P
19:18.46Chosilet's see
19:19.01_neuron_there's a thread? /me 's curius now :P
19:19.18deltronhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2582.0
19:19.34CIA-1703mok * r26630 10item2phpBB/ (item2phpBB.toc item2phpBB_.toc):
19:19.34CIA-17item2phpBB:
19:19.34CIA-17- reneme item2phpbb.toc to item2phpBB.toc part 2/2
19:19.50deltronheh coders aren't exempt from drama
19:20.13Moki hope it will get listet now...
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19:20.37_neuron_if the only commit change is fixing line endings he can just resolve all the errors without changing anything, fix line endings locally and overwrite em
19:20.42_neuron_that's what I did with kergoth's fix :P
19:21.06Loxis the Category:Addons page generated from the /files area?
19:21.07kergoth_neuron_: yeah, exactly.. its not -that- difficult
19:21.25deltroncross-platform editors all round?
19:21.27_neuron_it took me about 30 seconds
19:21.28Antiarc|WorkCoders tend to be drama-prone, really.
19:21.34Fisker-Notepad++ is nice
19:21.42_neuron_AND I HATED EVERY MINUTE OF THOSE 30 SECONDS KERGOTH
19:21.43_neuron_:p
19:21.49Antiarc|WorkWe get emotionally involved in our code, and tend to not like people Touching Our Things.
19:21.50_neuron_well, every second of those 30 seconds anyway :P
19:21.51neeneehm
19:21.51kergothi look forward to kael okaying the pre commit property check, and toadkiller trying to add a new file
19:21.55kergoththatll be funny as hell
19:21.57Antiarc|WorkPlease note that I have no problem with unified line endings.
19:22.11kergothcourse i'm easily entertainted
19:22.16kergothentertained, too
19:22.16Wobinoh man
19:22.34Wobinso...
19:22.35neeneeThe situations seems to be in the process of becoming more of a hassle than it was though.. especially if support is being drafted from this channel and the forums for either side :|
19:22.43Wobinhow is Toadkiller going to lock off his files from you? =P
19:22.55_neuron_I dont think he knows who he's dealing with :P
19:23.02chutwigit's kind of ludicrous that people are getting up in arms over something like line endings
19:23.05kergoththats a good question, kael would have to revoke my root access to the box
19:23.07_neuron_yeah
19:23.23kergothits not his fault, i'm just not that well known
19:23.26kergothi havent released much
19:23.27WobinWell you got your 'single warning' =P
19:23.29Wobinfeh
19:23.33kergothi coded 95% of aceoo, but most dont know that
19:23.34Wobinif he came on irc he'd know
19:23.48Barbanus~kergoth
19:23.50purli guess kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer working for CSC in Phoenix, AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM(svn) nazi, and often an ass.  Newbies and the clueless beware.  Email at clarson@kergoth.com.
19:23.50Wobinnot our fault he's reclusive =)
19:23.53Barbanusnuff said :P
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19:24.04kergothnotice i added SCM(svn) nazi?
19:24.04deltronrofl
19:24.06kergoth:D
19:24.15kenlyricI'd call that a sufficient warning :)
19:24.17chutwigif you're the bofh who's the pfy
19:24.20Barbanushaha, I didn't ... but now I do :)
19:24.27deltronkergoth: you do openzaurus stuff? sweet :D
19:24.32kergothi started the project
19:24.33neeneeHm.
19:24.35kergothopenzaurus was my baby for years
19:24.37deltronoh heh nice
19:24.44deltronmy sl-5000d thanks you
19:24.52kergothyou were in the developer program? nice
19:24.54Loxdoh, that's why your name is familar
19:24.59deltronnah, just used it
19:25.00kergothi still have mine colllecting dust in the closet in mn
19:25.17deltronI bought that zaurus off sa-mart real cheap
19:25.20kergothNeoTron in here was a Z user too, he ported and sold some games for it
19:25.27kergothggilbert_ was involved in oz too
19:25.28chutwigdeltron you're a goon?
19:25.36kergothggilbert hosts the openembedded sources tree
19:25.42deltronchutwig: i got stairs
19:25.49ggilbert_the outdated one at least :p
19:25.52kergothhehe
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19:25.58chutwigdeltron: protected blah blah blah
19:26.00Loxah, I loved openzaurus.  I wish I could put it on my palm :/
19:26.10Barbanuskergoth, the best line of your ~kergoth is "Newbies and the clueless beware"
19:26.16Barbanusseems to explain this situation
19:26.21deltronchutwig: :coal:  I'm RFC, formerly motardo (posted in a banme thread)
19:26.51deltronjust a big time lurker nowadays
19:26.55vithos_neuron_: check.if.already.open=1
19:27.02_neuron_thanks vithos
19:27.07deltronaugh I hate this request I have right now
19:27.15deltronI have to write an autoit script to do half of it
19:27.17Barbanuswhich is?
19:27.18chutwigdeltron: i live in sh/sc and the WoW forum
19:27.29kergothi need to buy an n800
19:27.40deltronyeah I'd love an n800
19:27.43Mikmakergoth: youtube for Puppy Robot :P
19:27.55Mikmamy friend has been on coding the interface for it, and it uses n800
19:27.59ggilbert_I'm resisting the urge to get an n800
19:28.09deltronI don't have the cash really for an n800
19:28.10Mikmaif you are talking about Nokia Internet Tablet 800 i mean
19:28.14deltronbut it's so tempting
19:28.17deltronyep
19:28.23Funkeh`that was a nice read
19:28.26Funkeh`that post
19:28.37Funkeh`nice work kergoth, maintenance ftw
19:29.32LoxMikma: do you have a link?
19:29.32ggilbert_If WoW ran on it, I'd be hosed.
19:29.32deltronggilbert_: I've seen WoW running on a UMPC before
19:29.35Wobinrunning, or walking slowly?
19:29.53deltronheh
19:29.57deltronsupposedly it ran fine
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19:30.24MikmaLox: www.youtube.com ;)
19:30.51Loxhehe, k
19:30.55deltronI'd love a linux pda/phone
19:31.25kergothheard about openmoko
19:31.28kergoth?
19:31.29Loxspeaking of which, is there a different os I can put on my T5?
19:31.34deltronno
19:31.40Lox:(
19:31.46kergothhttp://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html
19:31.52deltronhmm
19:31.56kergoth"The Neo1973 will also ship with an "apt-get-like" software manager (pictured at right) that makes it trivial to add, remove, and update applications packaged in the OpenEmbedded package format, including "literally thousands of existing open source applications from the OpenZaurus, Familiar Linux, and Angstrom projects," according to Michael Lauer, founder of OpenEmbedded and an early OpenMoko developer. "
19:32.05kergoththe build tool / metadata repo we built for OZ is to be used for it
19:32.11kergothmickeyl is the current oz maintainer
19:32.12arJUnagentoo on a cell phone....shudder
19:32.13ggilbert_It looks interesting, but I'm a bit wary of Linux on them after my ipaq/zaurus experience
19:32.20kergothhehe, yeah..
19:32.28kergoththe pda software always did suck
19:32.39deltronyou guys see the trolltech phones?
19:32.50ggilbert_yup
19:32.53Loxlooks sweet
19:33.26kergothtrolltech can kiss my fat ass
19:33.26deltronlol
19:33.26ggilbert_deltron: it looks much nicer then it likely is :)
19:33.29deltronggilbert_: yeah, too bad it's not a real phone :P
19:33.46Wobinnight!
19:33.46ggilbert_I'm using windows mobile 5 these days. Not too bad.
19:33.52neeneegnite Wobin.
19:33.57chutwigi really want an iphone :(
19:34.02chutwigbut not the first rev
19:34.19kergothiphone looks nice, but not allowing 3rd party software is utterly idiotic
19:34.20Ominousanyone here got vista and having trouble with msn live
19:34.25kergothits not hard to implement a certification system
19:34.37deltronkergoth: agreed, no reason I'd get one if I couldn't run homebrew type apps
19:35.02chutwigthey'll probably reverse their position eventually
19:35.08deltronI doubt it
19:35.11arJUnai'm sure they just don't "support" 3rd party apps....just liek an iPod
19:35.17arJUnahack away
19:35.20ggilbert_MS's biggest idiocy at the moment is the whole two versions of the OS deal
19:36.07chutwigas long as i can ssh from it
19:36.09chutwigi don't cafre
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19:36.38CIA-1703funkydude * r26631 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: add The Steamvault Bosses/Loot
19:37.10deltronI don't think my provider will suppor the openmoko
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19:37.33ggilbert_who do you use?
19:37.36Arrowmasterkergoth: did you mention the possibility of a precommit hook that automaticly sets svn:eol-style?
19:37.44deltronsprint
19:37.44kergothi'm not sure how confident i am that openmoko will ever hit mainstream or be anything but mostly vaporware, but i'm a bitter cynic before my time
19:37.48kergothArrowmaster: not possible.
19:37.51ggilbert_deltron: nope, won't work
19:37.56deltronaye
19:37.57kergothArrowmaster: you cant create new revisions in a hook, itll desync the client & server always
19:38.10ggilbert_kergoth: I'm certain it will never hit the mainstream.
19:38.11deltronI actually like to have a provider that doesn't drop calls at random
19:38.19kergothArrowmaster: we can abort the commit if they havent added the properties though, with a useful message displayed
19:38.26Barbanuscan you reject it if it doesnt have the property?
19:38.27kergothArrowmaster: which is what i'm going to do, as soon as kael responds to my email :)
19:38.28ggilbert_kergoth: But I think it could find a niche
19:38.32Barbanus.. damn too slow at typing
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19:38.43kergothi'd enable it now, but i want SVN_Rules updated first
19:38.45kergothand i cant do that, no persm
19:38.49kergothwait
19:38.53kergothi have root, what the hell am i talking about
19:38.57BarbanusLOL!
19:39.07kergothsomebody smack me, please
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19:39.13deltronoops
19:39.15deltronheh
19:39.29Arrowmasterkergoth: well atleast provide a small guide on setting up auto-props somewhere on the wiki
19:39.35kergothArrowmaster: thats the plan
19:39.38kergothlinking from SVN_Rules to it
19:39.47RaydenUniis there an ace mod for equipping items when you mount? ie carrot on a stick
19:39.49hanzzonsorry to ask but a friend said he used wowace updater today and most of his ace addons stopped working, anything known to be wrong today?
19:39.50kergothneed to find a good page on setting up auto props on tortoise though
19:40.01kergothRaydenUni: closetgnome + closetgnome_mount can
19:42.13RaydenUnihttp://snippy.ceejbot.com/wiki/show/world_of_warcraft <-- you guys see this?
19:42.22RaydenUnithe best introductory guide on grouping and dungeons i've seen
19:42.33RaydenUnispecifically "how to fight in high-level dungeons" and "fighting the good fight"
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19:42.48Barbanuskergoth, its just in the db, under the table wiki_user_groups, just add a new row with your userid, and the group name 'sysop'. I'm pretty sure that will do it for you :P
19:42.49RaydenUnii think everyone who runs high level dungeons should read those
19:43.11FeldiaRaydenUni: why
19:43.18Feldiait doesn't even deal with any higher level zones
19:43.30RaydenUni?
19:43.34RaydenUnithey are guides to specific zones
19:43.44deltronRaydenUni: not too bad
19:43.54deltrona lot of the info seems fairly dated
19:44.01deltronprobably not the best strats either
19:44.02RaydenUniits more along the lines of what the main tank is responsible for, what the tank-assist does, what rogues and mages should do if they gain aggro, but they shouldn't
19:44.08RaydenUniit is dated a bit
19:44.19RaydenUnibut still a good introductory read
19:44.41RaydenUniit made me feel confident about yelling at the mage in my group when he gains aggro at the beginning of every battle and i waste 1000 mana healing him
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19:45.23FeldiaRaydenUni: I'm reasonably sure anyone doing anything "high end" would no everything contained within those guides
19:45.30Feldiaunless your definition of high end is different than my own
19:45.35RaydenUniprobably
19:45.37RaydenUnii'm only 53
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19:45.41RaydenUniran BRD for the first time last night
19:45.50Feldiaso yea
19:45.51RaydenUnithe night before my group wiped 3 times on the first couple mobs
19:45.56OverlordQO_o
19:45.57Feldiathose guides are good for pepole who are just starting to instance
19:46.02RaydenUniyeah, a lot of it has to do with 40 man raids
19:46.11RaydenUnibut you'd hopefully know that anyways
19:46.11Feldiathere are no 40 man raids listed :P
19:46.18Feldiaoh there's MC
19:46.20Feldiamy bad
19:46.28RaydenUnii have only read the two general guides
19:46.35RaydenUninothing on specific instances
19:46.48Arrowmasterhehe we did our first shattered halls run the other night after finishing the quest chain for the key, that was so much fun
19:46.57Loxkergoth: damn you!  that n800 looks awesome...
19:47.03Feldiashattered halls is just a big zerg
19:47.09Feldiashattered halls heroic, now that's interesting
19:47.11Arrowmasterresto druid, rogue, mage, hunter, and warlock
19:47.14Feldiawhen any mob can one hit any cloth
19:47.16Feldia/sigh
19:47.34Feldiashattered halls with no tank? rofl
19:47.38Feldiamusta been fun
19:47.48Arrowmasteryeah we CC'd everything
19:48.01Arrowmasterbecause we could
19:48.16Feldiamy favorite group is paladin + warrior + 2 mages + shadow priest
19:48.18Feldiawe destroy everything
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19:48.50Arrowmasterkilled the first boss and got past the endly zerg right after him before it got too late
19:49.03Arrowmasters/endly/endless/
19:49.55kergoththats better, have sysop access to the wiki now
19:49.58kergothLox: hehe, indeed
19:50.10deltronLox: n800 is so sweet, I just wish it wasn't so expensive :(
19:50.31Loxyeah, $400 is steep
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19:50.47Loxespecially when the iPhone will be 499
19:50.51CIA-1703kunda * r26632 10AHsearch/ (8 files in 3 dirs): AHsearch: added sort categories/sort search queries
19:50.54ggilbert_I guess my sense of gadget pricing is a bit twisted :)
19:51.02ggilbert_but 400 doesn't seem too bad for a device like that
19:51.03kergoth$400 doesnt seem that high to me
19:51.20Loxno, it's just steep for me ;)
19:51.21deltronit's got a ton to offer
19:51.26kergoththe z's went for $500 when they came out
19:51.29kergothsome higher
19:51.53Loxthe only thing i wish it had built in, is a cell phone
19:52.07deltronyeah
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19:52.15ggilbert_kind of big for a phone though
19:52.27deltronit'd be the most awesome phone ever if it was a phone
19:52.30StephmwLox: the problem with the iphone is that forced contract
19:52.42deltronggilbert_: not compared to other smartphones
19:52.44StephmwLox: and the lockdown
19:52.48Loxyeah, I didn't know waoub that
19:52.58Loxlockdown?
19:53.04Stephmwno 3rd-party software
19:53.11Stephmwno Java or Flash
19:53.14RaydenUnisweet
19:53.17RaydenUniclosetgnome is nice
19:53.21RaydenUnithanks
19:53.21Loxoh, yeah, that does suck
19:53.43RaydenUniFeldia my favorite group is paladin + warrior + 2 mages + shadow priest <-- what does your shadow priest do?
19:53.51FeldiaI dps
19:53.54RaydenUnipaladin is main healer?
19:53.56Feldiayes
19:54.01RaydenUniwith vampiric embrace i assume?
19:54.03Stephmwwhat's the favoured ace2 totem addon these days? my other half's NECB is broken
19:54.04LoxYeah, I'm going to switch back to closet gnome, now that it has more 3rd party modules
19:54.05Feldiayes
19:54.06Feldiave / vt
19:54.19deltronnone of our paladins are high enough to group with me :P
19:54.21RaydenUniwhat's funny about VE is you end up doing more healing than the main healer
19:54.28RaydenUninot when it counts, but overall numbers
19:54.38RaydenUnino VT for me yet
19:54.41RaydenUninext level
19:54.41Feldiayea I end up doing about 30% of the effectiv healing
19:54.42ggilbert_deltron: my phone is pretty big and the n800 is even bigger than it :)
19:54.47kenlyricyeah, that's a good group because you have a backup tank when you need it, too.
19:54.49deltronVE is way too much overheal
19:54.59RaydenUniswstats has an option to turn it off?
19:54.59Feldiawhy does overheal matter?
19:55.02kenlyricyeah, but it's completely free overheal.
19:55.12Feldiait doesn't generate thread
19:55.15Feldiathreat*
19:55.16kenlyricat level 67, VE only costs 44 mana to cast.
19:55.17Feldiadoesn't cost mana
19:55.17deltronbut, put a shadow priest in with a group of rogues during a raid and it works great
19:55.19Feldiaso what does it matter?
19:55.30FeldiaI'd much rather put a shadow priest with a group of casters
19:55.30RaydenUniyeah 25 is a pretty sweet cost for a healing spell
19:55.32Feldiafor the mana regen
19:55.47RaydenUniso shadow priest, do you go high on intellect or spirit?
19:55.55Feldiaspirit / damage
19:55.57StephmwFeldia: casters -firemage
19:56.06kenlyricspell damage and spirit/int, stam if pvp.
19:56.10RaydenUniright now i'm mostly spirit. almost 300 i think and only around 200 int
19:56.13StephmwFeldia: god knows, no amount of priest regen will top me up ;)
19:56.15Feldiaint is mostly useless
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19:56.27kenlyricint is good in groups.
19:56.28RaydenUninot worth the extra mana and crit %?
19:56.37Feldiasince when does crit matter for priests
19:56.38kenlyricspirit is best, but hard to come by on damage gear.
19:56.43RaydenUniwhen i'm the main healer as a shadow priest i find i wish i had some more int...
19:56.47deltronkergoth: Midnight has 2 paladins in their 60's
19:56.57FeldiaRaydenUni: you and I are talking about 2 entirely different games
19:57.02RaydenUniof course being shadow specced i'm not specced for healing
19:57.05RaydenUniprobably :D
19:57.08kenlyricFeldia: crit matters to priests both healing and doing damage.
19:57.23Feldiacrit isn't worth the wasted itemization points, for priests
19:57.24kenlyricthough, considering two of our spells in shadow are dots, crits matter less than they do to a mage.
19:57.30Feldiaspirit / healing / damage are far more important
19:57.31Loxckknight: is cartographer working (off the beta site files.wowace.com)?
19:57.32Feldiaand less costly
19:57.45kenlyriccrit is a godsend on a fight where you need to spam flash heal rank1 to keep inspiration up :)
19:58.00Feldiawhy the hell would you ever do that
19:58.00Loxckknight: I had to disable it or I get a ton of error messages
19:58.01KarlThePagankenlyric, that might have been viable before the downranking nerf
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19:58.10kenlyricKarlThePagan: still viable.
19:58.12KarlThePaganFeldia, I did before 2.0... it worked nicely on the MT
19:58.21kenlyricthe point isn't really the healing, it's keeping inspiration up.
19:58.23KarlThePagankenlyric, maybe if you're still doing 40man raids
19:58.29Feldiain a raid (the only place it would matter) you'll have 4-5 priests
19:58.32Feldiainspiratino will be up
19:58.34ckknightLox: it's working
19:58.39kenlyricFeldia: not necessarily.
19:58.43kenlyriclots of priests don't get it.
19:58.52Feldiawell, lots of priests are stupid then I guess :P
19:59.02kenlyricand yeah, I'm talking about old raids here, not new ones :)
19:59.03Loxckknight: wonder if it's conflicting with something else then...  thanks
19:59.07Feldiait isn't worth effectively giving up a priest because others are poorly specced
19:59.36Feldiaand yes, I'm talking about old raids as well
19:59.39Feldiapatchwerk / sapphiron
19:59.44KarlThePaganmaybe if they leave surge of light the way it is (bugged to allow infinite procs) then more priests will spec for +crit
19:59.55KarlThePaganotherwise I don't see it happening
19:59.58Feldiaheh, surge of light is so broken
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20:00.04KarlThePaganyou mean so awesome
20:00.05snurre*stuffs tier4 in bank*
20:00.11Feldiasometimes it's awesome
20:00.16Feldiaother times you go oom in 10 seconds
20:00.18KarlThePaganyea
20:00.21Feldiabecause it's consuming mana
20:00.44Loxman, I have way too many addons installed
20:00.50Feldiabut I'm not at all a fan of holy dps
20:01.02deltronI roll with like 120+ wowace mods
20:01.02kenlyricholy dps... LOL!
20:01.04KarlThePaganI was smite spec'd for the longest time... SoL kinda leaves an empty feeling inside me... like it's the promise of viable damage dealing in pvp, but still kind of a waste
20:01.12Feldiaindeed kenlyric
20:01.14kenlyricit should be called dpm
20:01.28deltronI want some holy protection gear
20:01.28kenlyric(and that's not damage per mana)
20:01.30Feldiawhile I was leveling we had a priest in guild specced SoL etc
20:01.32Feldiafor holy dps
20:01.38deltronsome pally hit me for 1100 holy damage last night
20:01.42Feldiahe and I grouped a few times for questing
20:01.53Feldiaeverytime we did, I'd be killing 4-5 mobs in the same time span in which he'd kill one
20:02.00Feldiaand I'd come out at the end with more mana
20:02.02Feldiaable to pull more
20:02.10KarlThePaganyea it's really unfortunate... smite spec is the only caster class that didn't get any real buffs in the expansion
20:02.24whizteris there an alternative to auctioneer?
20:02.31KarlThePaganit used to be amazing but not really now
20:02.32KarlThePaganbrb
20:02.38Feldiait's alright for pvp
20:02.40Feldiacuz you can still toss heals
20:02.50Feldiaeffective heals**
20:03.08neeneewhizter: kc_items
20:03.15whizterthx
20:03.29deltronI couldn't get kc_items working
20:03.55kenlyric<---- uses kc_items everyday for posting auctions
20:04.05deltroni'll give it another whirl
20:04.12deltrondoes it scan AH for prices like auctioneer?
20:04.15Feldiakc_items, does that track prices and such?
20:04.17kenlyricgot to watch it though. It tried to post a 150g ring for 9g.
20:04.24kenlyricyes, and yes.
20:04.26Feldiahurm
20:04.29FeldiaI need to try it then
20:04.35whizteris it better than auctioneer?
20:04.37deltronhmm
20:04.37FeldiaI feel like I'm losing out on so much gold potential
20:04.40kenlyricjust don't forget ace and acegui.
20:04.47kenlyricno, it has less features than auctioneer
20:05.00Feldiadoes ace2 not work?
20:05.06kenlyricit's not ace2
20:05.09deltroni'm an auctioneer nerd
20:05.21whizterauctioneer has bugs here
20:05.21kenlyricif you use all the features of auctioneer, then you should not switch.
20:05.22deltronit's such a hog though
20:05.46Feldiamaybe I'll just get auctioneer
20:05.51FeldiaI only intend to run it from my bank alt
20:05.56Feldiaso resource hog doesn't matter
20:06.04kenlyricI only cared about getting price averages from AH scans, and KC_items does that (and also tracks vendor prices of items, so it replaces informant too)
20:06.07whizteri use bottomscanner, does kc_items have something similar?
20:06.28LoxFeldia: Auctioneer is still having issues
20:06.34neeneeHmm.
20:06.38neeneeI think someone broke Cellular a bit
20:06.53LoxFeldia: http://auctioneeraddon.com/?p=home
20:08.37kergoth*.cmd = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=CRLF
20:08.38kergoth*.bat = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=CRLF
20:08.40kergother
20:08.43kergothhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps
20:08.49kergoththere, hows that look?
20:08.56CIA-1703neuron * r26633 10nQuestLog/ (4 files in 2 dirs): nQuestLog : minor layout tweaks
20:08.56kergothi hate windows not automatically copying text i select, get used to it in linux
20:09.32neenee:) indeed
20:09.39shieldbdoes kc_items provide something similar to auctioneer's "post auctions" feature? ie I can say "I want to post six full stacks of netherweave cloth" and it will automatically combine and split the stacks in my inventory and post them at whatever my designated price was?
20:09.41neeneeI had to get used to that when I switched back to Windows as well.
20:09.48deltronkergoth: "Subverion
20:09.50Arrowmasterkergoth: should probably add something for windows command line client
20:10.05kergothArrowmaster: good idea, though its not much different than the linux one :)
20:10.07kenlyricshieldb: no
20:10.23shieldbdarn
20:10.35kenlyriclike I said, very simple. Tracks auction price history. can auto-suggest prices based on that info... that's about it.
20:10.45Feldiayea screw it,I'm gonna get KCI
20:10.49kenlyricsometimes screws it up royally, so you have to watch it :)
20:11.07shieldbthat's a given for any AH tool :)
20:11.11Feldiait's on the svn I assume?
20:11.14kenlyricbut, if you're really lazy, shift click an item at the AH and it'll get posted automatically.
20:11.29kenlyric<---- really lazy, so kci appeals to me :)
20:12.05Feldiakenlyric: does it have any kind of feature to find underpriced auctions for you?
20:12.39kenlyricyes
20:12.43Feldiagood!
20:12.43kenlyricbut it's rather poorly implemented
20:12.51kenlyricyou can't say "show me the crappy auctions"
20:13.02vithosi wish someone would hack together auctioneer and wowecon really.. if for public use make the addon refuse to work without you doing scans every now and then to contribute to the db
20:13.07kenlyricbut on a search it can tell you which have a low buyout, which have a low bid, etc.
20:13.15shieldbI'll have to get kc_items a try - I can just load auctioneer on my bank / ah mule and then not deal with the horrible auctioneer resource hogging on my main if kc_i tracks vendor / ah averages instead :)
20:13.28kenlyricoh, and you can't run auctioneer and kc_i together.
20:13.40kenlyrickc_i can't scan with auctioneer enabled.
20:13.40kergothhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps updated to include commandline client and to fix the typo
20:13.47Chosii need a possibility to convert imported gatherer nodes to cartographer ones :S
20:13.51Industrialin the linux text copying thing
20:13.51shieldbhmm
20:14.01IndustrialI hate it that in linux i spam around text in the wrong places all the time
20:14.03kergothChosi: you mean like what Cartographer_Import does, or..?
20:14.06_neuron_Chosi, that's what cartographer_import does
20:14.09Loxkergoth: very nice, didn't even know you could set those
20:14.12Chosierr
20:14.14Industrialand i hate how it works with my fucking browser url
20:14.14Chosino
20:14.22deltronkergoth: looks good
20:14.23_neuron_Industrial, you can change the behavior in firefox
20:14.24Feldiadoes anyone know what happened to MountMe??
20:14.27Chosibecause i can't set the imported nodes as waypoints
20:14.27Feldiait's disappeared from the svn
20:14.41Chosiplus the imported ones are not in cartographer_stats
20:14.42Chosi:(
20:14.57Industrial_neuron_: select some text, .. now how do you clear the url? click behind the url text and backspace... not really efficient :P
20:15.17_neuron_Industrial, select some text, rightclick anywhere in the browser
20:15.23_neuron_you dont need to paste it into the url field
20:15.31Industrialwell what if you do
20:15.42Industrial"going to an url" :)
20:16.02_neuron_what do you mean?
20:16.21Industrialwhat if someone pastes an url on irc and you want to browse to it
20:16.31_neuron_select it, rightclick in the broswer..
20:16.44_neuron_if there isn't a link there, and you got a link in your copy&paste it'll open that link
20:16.57deltronhttp://www.rpgoutfitter.com/wow-gm/char.cfm?char=Diode@US-Suramar
20:16.59deltron:D
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20:17.18rpowerswhat happened to gmail? the last note in the log is about removing questionable material, and there are no files other than the libs folder :x
20:17.37deltronquestionable material?
20:17.58Feldiadidn't it get renamed
20:18.00Feldiato uhhhh
20:18.05Loxrpowers: it's now Postal
20:18.05shieldbrpowers, postal is the new gmail
20:18.05kenlyricgrennon wanted to write a mail mod that could wipe out mail contents without notification, so he had to change the name.
20:18.22kenlyricI like to call it The Postman deletes all your items
20:18.22Feldiayea postal
20:18.22Feldiathat's the name
20:18.24kenlyricerrr, the postal worker deletes all your items.
20:18.26rpowersoh
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20:19.34LoxIs Visor2 working?  seems to be mixed opions on the forum
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20:20.04kergothupdated http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules , how does it look?
20:20.53deltronI didn't know what it looked like before
20:21.02deltronI should register an acct
20:21.03kergothall i did was added the Necessary SVN Properties section
20:21.26deltronchange the link to the "auto-generated zip files" from http://wowace.com/files to http://files.wowace.com
20:21.47kergothgood idea
20:21.58kenlyricsomeone should update WAU for beta 4 to use the new address too.
20:22.03kenlyricI was surprised beta 3 didn't use it.
20:22.18kenlyricthen again, beta3 beats up old women.
20:22.34bindia decent clickcaster is clique right?
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20:22.52deltronyes bindi
20:22.53Grollanyone know what slot the offhand slot is?
20:22.56Grollie the number
20:23.01vhaarrbindi: Clique or Click2Cast.
20:23.03bindiah k
20:23.07bindiwasn't that ace?
20:23.12vhaarryes
20:23.40vhaarrGroll: 17
20:23.44Grollthanks
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20:25.49deltronshoulda used deltron not diode for wowace.com :P
20:25.49deltronoh well
20:26.53sylvanaari have asked many times to get the mirrors.txt file updates
20:28.32PogoTribalWhat's Click2Cast?
20:28.55CIA-1703funkydude * r26634 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/ (InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/pack.lua): Cartographer: add The Arcatraz map
20:29.02sylvanaarhttp://svn1.wowace.com/mirrors.txt
20:29.12Industrialwhats table of contents?
20:29.22renchapsylvanaar: pm me to change it ^^
20:29.23Industrialreadme, svn, forums, etc
20:29.26sylvanaarso they are updated
20:31.09sylvanaarcool, thx
20:31.35shieldbanyone know if the mechanar elevator got some love over maintainence today?
20:32.01Arrowmasterwhat maintainence
20:32.09shieldbwas there not downtime today?
20:32.11OverlordQso what's those bat files in Cartographer for?
20:32.15vhaarrThe elevator worked fine for me.
20:32.25shieldbit's tuesday so I guess I'm assuming there was the regular downtime/maintainence
20:32.41kergothokay guys
20:32.43shieldbbeen at work all day and wasn't up until 5am, so I don't know for sure :)
20:32.52kergothi just enabled the mime type / eol-style pre commit script
20:32.52kenlyricshieldb: nope.
20:32.58kenlyricI didn't even remember it was tuesday :)
20:32.58kergothwith a pointer at the svn rules and svn autoprops wiki pages
20:33.07vhaarrkergoth: Why do I have to set mime-type?
20:33.21kergothits only on new files, its so we can identify which files need eol-style.
20:33.23shieldbvhaarr, I'll have to give it a try this evening if I've got time, but hopefully the elevator actually exists now for me :(
20:33.29kergothjust set up autoprops and dont worry about it
20:33.37OverlordQand is it normal for WAU to gives lots of errors every time it tries to update Cartographer?
20:34.11shieldbso far out of 3-4 mechanar attempted runs, only one guy in the group can actually see the elevator
20:34.25kenlyricOverlordQ: it is now, at the end.
20:34.40shieldbthe rest of us just fall through where the elevator should be when it's in the down position and can't see it
20:34.42OverlordQnot at the end, when it's updating cart
20:34.42kenlyricapparently that's not an error :)
20:34.51kenlyricoh, no I don't think so.
20:35.06shieldband the one guy who can see the elevator just vanishes and appears at the top of the elevator shaft floating in midair a moment later when he rides it up
20:35.09OverlordQabout directories not being empty and such
20:36.56sylvanaarthey arent errors, just messages...
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20:38.53CIA-1703kergoth * r26635 10kEnergy/luajit: kEnergy: test commit
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20:41.31Thorgardkenlyric, Mechanar seems generally buggy. ;P The getting locked out after wiping on the final boss bug sucks, too.
20:42.40kergothvhaarr: there, modified the pre commit hook so that it will not abort for files without mime-type, but it will still abort if a file without an mime type is missing eol-style.
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20:43.52chutwigtempest keep in general seems... undone
20:44.31CIA-1703kergoth * r26637 10kEnergy/ (a a.tga): kEnergy: test commit
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20:44.56kergothokay, done testing, all happy
20:45.06chutwigalthough i did enjoy the final boss in arcatraz
20:45.14chutwigapart from getting mind flayed for 5 billion a tick
20:45.20durcynchutwig: there are some balance issues, especially in mechanar and arcatraz.. to say nothing of that irksome bugged elevator and the "ha ha, you only get one attempt on patheleon, suckas" bit
20:45.50chutwigdurcyn: i expect 2.1 to be a whole lot of bug fixes
20:46.02chutwigand if there is a god they will reduce the number of waves in the black morass
20:46.41ag`black morass seems fine
20:46.49ag`though the second boss is screwy
20:47.01ag`with the healing debuff/haste stuff
20:47.10ag`the bridge in mechanar is fucked
20:47.18ag`6 groups or whatever comes
20:47.20chutwigi wanted to cut myself after being in there for the fourth time
20:47.28chutwigi have my karazhan key now and i am not going back
20:47.37ag`you only get to drink if you *spam* the key between groups
20:47.47ag`if you forget to spam your drink key you wipe
20:47.51ag`and the door locks
20:47.53ag`gg reset
20:48.16Fisker-lol
20:48.20Fisker-I called blizzard out :(
20:48.21Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=121132989&sid=1
20:48.22chutwigbtw ag i spent some time trying to find a pattern to the casting bar choppiness but i'm not sure there is one
20:48.25Fisker-Topic gets deleted
20:48.32chutwigthree computers with the same interface and wtf folders, it's choppy only on one
20:48.48ag`chutwig: don't really know what to say either, it's not choppy on mine
20:48.59ag`seems to work as it is supposed to
20:49.09ag`there's nothing non-standard over the code
20:49.19ag`uses simple OnUpdate to make the bar move
20:50.17ag`uh, it could be a performance problem on the computer you're having issues with
20:50.30ag`toy around with the hardware settings and quality settings in wow
20:50.36ag`else I have no idea
20:50.37chutwigi considered it but it's unlikely since it's a solid 60 fps at max settings otherwise
20:50.49chutwigand i set two of the computers to use the exact same graphical settings and it still occurred
20:51.16ag`they're still using different hardware/software right?
20:51.38chutwigdifferent hardware, yes
20:52.04ag`so
20:52.19ag`check out what settings you have for the ui
20:52.29chutwigi'm pretty sure a 3.4 ghz P4 should still be powerful enough to draw a castbar smoothly
20:52.41chutwigand like i said, i reduced graphics settings on it substantially with no effect
20:52.47ag`there is hidden settings for acceleration of the UI
20:52.54ag`no idea if those have any effect
20:53.43chutwigi'm not trying to blame the code or anything, it's just a bizarre phenomenon
20:55.10ag`I have no idea
20:55.28ag`it does the same thing if you use opengl?
20:55.40chutwigi haven't tried it
20:56.05ag`wow addons act the same on every system running the same version with default settings
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20:56.32ag`so if it works smoothly for some and not for others I would think it was a hardware/software problem
20:57.07chutwigthe computer is quite fine otherwise and perfectly stable
20:57.15chutwigso either there's something odd about the video drivers or some other driver
20:57.21chutwigor WoW has a vendetta against the pentium 4
20:57.50ag`well
20:57.55ag`what about the graphics card
20:58.01chutwigit's a 7600GT
20:58.01deltrondrivers
20:58.10chutwigwith the last set of nvidia WHQL drivers
20:58.11deltronnorthbridge chipset?
20:58.20chutwiguh, i945, i think
20:58.25chutwigwhatever intel paired with the prescott
20:58.38ag`and do you experience "choppyness" with other cast bars like mEnemycastbar, bcripoff, ocb?
20:58.46ag`and what is the choppyness like?
20:58.50chutwigi used oCB previously and i don't recall any choppiness
20:58.51kergothhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2582.msg79494#new :P
20:58.53kergothi couldnt just let it lie
20:59.00chutwigand it draws the bar in chunks rather than in smooth increments
20:59.06chutwiglike in 10-pixel increments instead of single-pixel
20:59.21chutwigactually, it's more closely related to cast time
20:59.29chutwigfor like a 1.5 second cast it'll draw the bar in six segments
20:59.35chutwigfor 2.5 in 10-15 or so
21:00.03deltrondo you have aUF_fadebar installed?
21:00.15chutwigi do but it's also present and active on the other two computers where this does not occur
21:00.25chutwigand like i said, they're all sharing the same interface and WTF folders
21:00.42Fisker-fuck i love you kergoth :P
21:01.08chutwigonly differences are graphical settings and platforms, and i tried to eliminate the former by setting two of them to the exact same graphical settings
21:02.26kenlyricI am beginning the paperwork to make kergoth a god.
21:02.33kergothlol
21:04.00chutwigoh man
21:04.02chutwigblink is quite a novelty
21:04.23deltronblink is for screwing those around you hehe
21:04.43chutwigand for not moving forward at all because you got caught on something you couldn't even see
21:05.07KlazarHow does GRID work with AG_Unitframes? That is, when in an instance AG_Unitframes shows my partymembers, when I add GRID tonight what will happen, will they both show partymembers?
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21:05.24kergothKlazar: you can disable grid showing partymembers when in a raid
21:05.32Klazarkk
21:05.52ckknightI think kergoth means that you can disable agUF from showing partymembers in a raid...
21:06.07ckknightor actually, I dunno what he meant
21:06.11ckknighteither way, both are configurable.
21:06.15Klazarthnx for the clarification
21:06.19Trancerboth I guess :)
21:06.31Tranceryou can also configure grid not to show when not in raid
21:06.36kergothhehe, yeah, you can do it with both
21:07.50Klazarsounds like they work together, i'll have AG_U disable during raids
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21:07.55IndustrialIs this ugly? http://tinyurl.com/2wfxq5
21:09.14deltronkergoth: lol, very nice :P
21:09.39ckknightwhat am I looking at, Industrial?
21:09.41CIA-1703sylfi * r26639 10PlayerRating/PlayerRatingData.lua:
21:09.41CIA-17PlayerRating:
21:09.41CIA-17- Put a safety in for State error.
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21:10.53Industrialckknight: the whole picture
21:10.59ckknightoh
21:11.05ckknightyou have pretty much the same setup as me
21:11.15ckknightexcept that I have more stuff on the FuBar
21:11.21ckknightand lack the middle chat window
21:11.28Industrialthe middle chat is spam, general and trade
21:11.31Industrialand localdefense
21:11.48ckknightthen what's left?
21:11.49Fisker-insanely crap
21:11.50Fisker-:(
21:11.51Industrialand, the fubar isnt fubar :-) its just 2 textareas
21:11.58ckknightwhatever
21:12.00Fisker-lol
21:12.01ckknightsux
21:12.03neeneeIndustrial: It looks horrible. The jpeg compression artefacts that is
21:12.03Fisker-2 "grind"
21:12.04Fisker-:P
21:12.31ckknightalso, you're alliance.
21:12.33ckknightso fail
21:12.35Fisker-yeah
21:12.37Industrialleft is say yell loot exp rep
21:12.40Fisker-megaüberfail
21:12.43Industrialand others
21:12.45Industrialsystem
21:12.45Industrial:D
21:13.21chutwigelitists!
21:13.33Fisker-Blood Elf Paladins ftw btw
21:13.41Industrialpuh-leeze
21:13.44chutwigif you're insanely effeminate, maybe
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21:14.37chutwigthe draenei are all "KILL EVERYTHING FOR THE LIGHT COMRADE"
21:14.40chutwighow can you beat that?
21:15.12ckknightDon't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?
21:15.30chutwigi need a scrunchie
21:15.46chutwigthey removed all the good /flirts from the draenei female :(
21:18.15deltronthey changed them already?
21:18.21chutwigit only cycles between two
21:18.33deltronthe blood elf ones were great
21:18.41deltron"I'm the girl the ESRB warns you about"
21:18.42chutwigthe one with goblin jumper cables and the one about the nights being chilly
21:18.52chutwigmy favorite was "you've seen the exodar, now let me show you the SEX-odar"
21:19.01deltronI never heard the dranei stuff
21:19.04chutwigbut apparently it got the chop
21:19.24chutwigit's probably still in the MPQ
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21:24.29neeneeboo :( They were fun
21:25.50ThorgardIs there a mod that replaces the Blizzard spellbook with a more compact one?
21:26.28[dRaCo]with a search function ^^
21:27.44ThorgardYeah! ;P
21:27.51Thorgard*wishes upon a star*
21:28.28[dRaCo]that'd be a great mod.
21:29.12Industrialwhats the wau channel?
21:29.16[dRaCo]#wau
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21:32.27Solehi
21:34.01kergothThorgard: there is one..
21:34.03kergothumm..
21:34.08kergothlet me try to remember what it was called
21:34.09kergoth:)
21:34.57Sole~seen Kaeltan
21:35.08purli haven't seen 'kaeltan', Sole
21:35.09ThorgardI think that horrendous Discord stuff had one.. I hope that's not the one you're thinking of, though. ;P
21:35.13kergothpretty sure it wasnt discord.. hmm
21:35.15Soleyes you have
21:35.23kergoth~seen kaelten
21:35.29purlkaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 8h 30m 45s ago, saying: 'night guys'.
21:35.29kergothspelling :P
21:35.34Sole>_<
21:35.43ThorgardThat's some heavy sleeping.
21:35.49Soleis he stilll working on KCI2?
21:35.54Solebecause Ive got an idea!
21:36.35kergothdoh, i think the one i was thinking of was discord indeed :|
21:36.37Solemass auction listings, kinda like mass mail, queue all your items up then KCI will put em up on auction using the data it collects as the prices
21:36.54kergothSole: theres a mass auction addon, like that i presume.. its a good idea
21:37.17Soleyah but does it use the KCI values?
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21:38.28kergothcourse even if you wanted to use the discord mini spellbook, look like it was last updated in 11000, wouldnt work now anyway
21:38.31kergothheh
21:39.43ThorgardYeah. :/
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21:41.06kergothits not a bad idea though, i kidna like how the discord one adds a panel for macros and such
21:41.59haste"kergoth gains a new project."
21:42.10kergothhmm
21:42.11kergothetmpting
21:42.14kergothtempting, too!
21:42.36hasteI actually released atropine, it probably blows up in some strange way since I did it
21:42.47SoleI think I just gained a new project :P
21:43.10Solesplit an inventory stack into individual pieces with 1 click
21:43.38Soleso instead of manually splitting a stack for each item, youd just do it once
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21:44.20Solebut Im thinking of implementation here, would it be better to add a new button to the split frame, or to add a new mouse click event?
21:44.42Eridiusso I'm having weird tooltip issues
21:44.50EridiusI described them a couple days ago, where my tooltips would get disabled
21:44.53Eridiusbut I'm not getting errors
21:45.00Eridiusdisabled meaning they look really dark (very hard to read) and don't respond to my mouse
21:45.17Eridiustwo days ago I installed TabletLib myself (as opposed to relying on FuBar bundling it), and yesterday I saw new behaviour
21:45.42EridiusI was playing and the *first three rows* of my tooltips were disabled. Then I logged into another character and the entire tooltips were disabled. Then I logged back into the first and my tooltips worked fine for the rest of that session
21:52.44shieldbhmm.. any thoughts on what I'd have best luck using as a vendor price database for garbagefu to use?
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21:54.41kenlyricshieldb: go to a vendor, get prices.
21:54.42CIA-1703derkyle * r26640 10ItemSync/xml/SearchFrame.lua:
21:54.42CIA-17ItemSync:
21:54.42CIA-17- Fixed: An issue where the 'None' value was being repeated for the rarity filtering in the Search Window. It should now display the rarity and 'none' field properly.
21:55.15kenlyricdon't know of anyone that maintains an item price database (at least not in svn)
21:55.55kenlyricInformant has one, but it's horribly out of date.
21:56.06kenlyric(which I suspect is the reason nobody else bothers to maintain one)
21:56.11NeoTronColaLight?
21:56.54kenlyricThat stores vendor prices.
21:57.08kenlyricit doesn't maintain a database on the SVN, or I've been misinformed about it.
21:57.09arJUnai want a ColaLight with info like stack numbers and item usage
21:57.29kenlyricI just want informant with data that's made after 1.9.
21:57.37arJUnai still use Informant because of that
21:57.40NeoTronit seemed to have some data in it
21:58.10arJUnadoes KCI handle that at all?
21:58.16kenlyricnorg was working on a system that would let users upload data which could then be used by auctioneer and informant, but nothing's happened with that since the xpac (levelling, I suspect)
21:58.55kenlyricarJUna: it gives stack sizes. I think something I have gives profession usage, but it might not be kc_i
22:00.36kenlyricgiving us the vendor price of quest rewards is just something blizz should do by default.
22:01.16kenlyricI guess I shouldn't start down the road of the stuff that should be included in the default ui.
22:02.28Estethhey all, im having trouble using Cartographer Notes. particularly the line: Cartographer_Notes:OpenNewNoteFrame(x, y) doesnt do anything
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22:03.59kergoth`foodWork|Kenlyric: colalight does include a large predone price db
22:04.26Estethcan i make my addon dependant on Cartographer_notes, seeing as its not an addon, but a module for Cartographer?
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22:05.40Work|Kenlyrickergoth`food: fyi, that should be included right in the mod description :)
22:05.41kergoth`foodEsteth: put Cartographer in your Dependencies, and check in your onenable if cartographer's notes module is enabled.
22:05.52kergoth`foodWork|Kenlyric: agreed :)
22:06.06Tainkergoth`food: HBO is doing a Song and Fire and Ice series
22:06.15kergoth`foodseriously? hmm
22:06.29Estethkergoth: ill have a go at that, its my first addon though, so im not sure how to do it. im sure i can figure it out from the docs though
22:06.43TainSupposed to do a full season per book
22:06.52kergoth`foodEsteth: pretty sure cartographer_herbalism and cartographer_mining do that in their onenable..
22:06.57Tainhttp://www.variety.com/article/VR1117957532.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
22:06.59kergoth`foodEsteth: since they're dependent upon taht module
22:07.37kergoth`foodTain: my question would be, will they try to make it more pleasant and palitable, or if they'll hold true to the gritty nature of the storylines
22:07.54JensHow to restore a broken iPod:
22:07.56kergoth`foodits hbo after all, maybe it wont suck
22:07.59Jens1) Smack it against the wall.
22:08.02TainHBO has done some great dark gritty shows.  Rome is in its second season and it's fantastic.
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22:08.04Jens2) There is no step 2.
22:08.30TainIf it were network TV I'd probably be crying.  But I think they can really do it well.
22:09.08TainOf cousre they just announced it so it'll probably be years before it shows up.  heh
22:09.17kergoth`food"They tried for 50 years to make 'Lord of the Rings' as one movie before Peter Jackson found success making three," Martin said. "My books are bigger and more complicated, and would require 18 movies. Otherwise, you'd have to choose one or two characters."
22:09.30kergoth`foodhehe, no shit martin, you didnt even manage to fit all the characters into one of your books in the last one
22:09.34kergoth`food:)
22:09.36Tainhaha
22:10.55deltronwhat book?
22:11.43deltronah link
22:11.45Barbanustoad is surprisingly quiet
22:12.01deltronwouldn't it be better to have wheel of time or something?
22:12.04TainNo.
22:12.07TainInfinitely no.
22:12.10deltronlol
22:12.25deltronI was so bored reading the first WoT book
22:12.50PogoTribalI re-did my UI last night
22:12.55TainI enjoyed WoT until somewhere around 4 or 5 where the wheel simply stopped turning.
22:12.56PogoTribalTook me 3 hours but I think I'm happy.
22:13.25PogoTribalI read like, 2 chapters of the first book. I figured if I wasn't hooked at that point, there was no reason to go on.
22:13.34deltronholy shit they're doing pattern recognition
22:13.37TainActually I think there's a market for an edited version of Wheel of Time.  Cut out all the nonsense and condense the story into a few books.
22:13.58TainI think they're up to what ten or eleven books now?
22:14.04deltrontoo many
22:14.08deltron1 was enough
22:14.10kergoth`foodi love the characters in WoT
22:14.14kergoth`foodbut the writing is terrible
22:14.19PogoTribalThat could work as a television series.
22:14.20ThorgardPogoTribal, I've gotten into the bad habit of re-doing my UI every week. :/ Doing it right now.
22:14.30PogoTribalThorgard: http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7601/desuikb4.jpg
22:14.55PogoTribalAlthough I'm really thinking of just forgetting about the combat log.
22:15.00deltronhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409138/ <-- excellent
22:15.02TainI really like some of the stuff in WoT, but absolutely none of the romances are even remotely believable.
22:15.20kergoth`foodsome of the character development is quite weak.. if nynaeve pulls her braid ONE MORE TIME
22:15.26kergoth`foodi swear to god i'll snap
22:15.51neenee:)
22:15.54ThorgardCool.
22:16.02neeneeI'm on the latest book too
22:16.24kergoth`foodthere are some great moments though, great scenes that would translate well to theatric form
22:16.27TainI gave up around the 8th I think.  Or 6th.  I don't even know any more.
22:16.39Barbanuslol, this is my crazy UI: http://wow.tecnobrat.com/images/raidui20061214.jpg
22:16.49kergoth`foodi loved when mat kicked the ass of those warder trainees in tar'valon
22:16.51Barbanusits a little different now .. but not by much.
22:17.07Tainhah gotta watch out for the guy with the staff
22:17.23shieldbBarbanus, ahh, I see you took that screenshot in naxx when simplecombatlog and prat hadn't updated yet to stop spamming the slime message :P
22:17.35ckknightalright, gonna add another method to Tourist, :GetBestZoneCoordinate(x, y, "zone"), which given any coordinate and zone, will return a better one :-P
22:17.51kergoth`foodbetter?
22:17.51Barbanusshieldb, haha I sure did!
22:18.08shieldbthat was a real irritating three days or so :P
22:18.22Barbanusshieldb, and at the same time as me yelling on TS to stay the fuck out of the slime
22:18.24ckknightkergoth`food: yep.
22:19.08Estethcartographer notes is loaded, so thats ok, but the function doesnt seem to be working still >>
22:19.55ckknightkergoth`food: such as :GetBestZoneCoordinate(0.5, 0.5, "Kalimdor") will return the coordinate in Stonetalon
22:20.52kergoth`foodah
22:21.39ckknightthat's what I'm working on :-P
22:21.43kergoth`food:)
22:21.48ckknightnotes across boundaries, too
22:22.54ravagernlckknight, what happened to carthographer= I can no longer update it through WAU
22:23.06ravagernlupdate WAU=
22:23.07Estethaha, well i know that i can SetNote without a problem, its OpenNewNoteFrame that wont work
22:23.09ravagernl?
22:23.10ckknighthow should I know? I don't use WAU
22:23.34ravagernlweird, it says its a package or something
22:24.33ckknightit is
22:24.43ckknightnow
22:29.01deltronkergoth: how was the grub?
22:29.16kergothcarls jr burger, overpriced naturally but not bad
22:29.17kergothheh
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22:29.24kergothi got assigned real work at work! hurray!
22:29.28sylvanaaryou guys seen Kel'Thuzad in Old Hillsbrad?
22:29.28deltronfun!
22:29.29kergothcourse its about 10 minutes of work
22:29.30kergothbut still
22:29.31kergoth:|
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22:29.47sylvanaarlevel 55
22:30.52deltronkergoth: how's the new server treating ya?
22:31.24Ominousis BigWigs/oRA2 ever going to be packaged to auto extract in WAU like Cartographer is
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22:34.10ag`sylvanaar: where?
22:34.51Barbanuskergoth, like what? lol
22:35.31ckknightkergoth: yep, and AceLibrary("Tourist-2.0"):GetBestZoneCoordinate(0.5, 0.4, "Eversong Woods") now returns a coordinate in Silvermoon
22:35.32ckknight:-)
22:35.33ckknightyays
22:36.53sylvanaarsouthshore
22:37.11sylvanaaron the path by the griffs
22:37.59PogoTribalGod.
22:38.17PogoTribalThis guy in IRC is really trying to convince me that FF games have more story than WoW.
22:38.32PogoTribalAnd are more original.
22:38.40sylvanaarI added code for them to use, i dont know if they have tried it out or if they plan to use it
22:38.45PogoTribalAs if any FF game is original anymore. Hey look! Psuedo-futuristic industrial world with magic run by abstract planetary forces with ancient evils creatingnew tyrannical villains! Throw some random bitch in a coma in there and you got FF.
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22:39.01CIA-1703ckknight * r26641 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua:
22:39.01CIA-17.Tourist-2.0 - added :GetBestZoneCoordinate(x, y, "zone"), which will return a better zone for the given coordinate if it is found.
22:39.01CIA-17e.g. :GetBestZoneCoordinate(0.5, 0.5, "Kalimdor") will end up in Stonetalon Mountains and :GetBestZoneCoordinate(0.5, 0.4, "Eversong Woods") will end up in Silvermoon City.
22:39.12ckknightgonna go eat
22:39.20ckknightthen Cartographer's gonna be updated to use that
22:39.47Chosihey ckknight
22:40.28Chosii'd really appreciate if i could convert the imported gatherer nodes to clickable notes :S
22:40.58Chosiand btw, do i have to remove the single cartographer addons and then install the package for some reason?
22:41.07steev64hey all, i havea local f = CreateFrame("Frame",name) \nf:EnableMouse(true)\nf:RegisterforDrag("LeftButton") - but, when I click on my frame, its not draggable - am I missing something?
22:41.40stavmar_sylvanaar: I deleted all my cartographer files and reinstalled tehm using the "Package_Cartographer" selection and still receive teh following error. What am I doing wrong? http://ace.pastey.net/5725. THis repeats 14 more times witha  different module each time.
22:42.14Chosistavmar_: got the same here
22:42.27ChosideDE locale if that's of any interest
22:42.31NeoTronsteev64: you need to implement the functions that handle the events
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22:42.46KarlThePaganChosi, stavmar_ I think you'll see inside your Cartographer directory you also have a list of all these modules in your subdirectory
22:43.00NeoTronbasically OnDragStop / OnDragStart scripts
22:43.06NeoTronnot sure how you do that with dynamic frames though
22:43.09KarlThePaganChosi, stavmar_ - make sure the modules there aren't duplicated in your AddOns directory
22:43.15KarlThePaganthat would be what's causing it
22:43.15steev64NeoTron: does that have to be in an XML file, or can it be in the lua as well
22:43.23Chosiokay they are
22:43.24Chosi;D
22:43.26stavmar_will do, i guess teh WAU is duplicating them for us
22:43.33Chosiwhat's being used right now?
22:43.38Chosidon't wanna delete any data
22:43.50Chosioh well the data is stored in WTF anyways isn't it?
22:44.07NeoTronsteev64: as I said, I haven't used dynamic frames but I'd guess you could do it there. I put it in the XML file (but this was before dynamic frames existed)
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22:44.24steev64i ask because i see other addons without XML files that are draggable, so i was curious
22:44.53kergothsteev64: perhaps you should read about :SetScript() and :GetScript()
22:44.55KarlThePaganChosi, i'm not sure but I think the ones inside cartographer are kept up to date by WAU
22:44.58KarlThePaganbut I could be wrong
22:45.25Chosibtw KarlThePagan: are you into the import plugin somehow?
22:45.56Chosiimporting the gatherer crap works fine but using it as clickable carto notes is something i'm missing
22:46.00KarlThePaganChosi, nope :( I'm mostly looking at waypoint and noteshare
22:46.20Chosiso apart from importing them they could use some conversion/integration
22:46.22KarlThePaganwell I guess I'm sorta familiar with the notes in general
22:46.33KarlThePaganwhat does clicking on carto notes do that you're missing?
22:46.37KarlThePaganstatistics? editing?
22:46.49steev64kergoth: thanks, ill do that
22:47.07ChosiKarlThePagan: i'm using the mining notes from cartographer
22:47.14Chosibecause most of my guildmates are using gatherer
22:47.17Chosishame on them
22:47.19KarlThePaganheh yea
22:47.21Chosii pity the foo!
22:47.21kergothsteev64: pretty sure theres also a page on wowwiki on making frames draggable, i remember readingi t when i was doing the frame 'unlock' for kEnergy
22:47.47KarlThePagani've got about 6 converts in my guild, there's some noteshare issues I need to work out... some of them use some really old Carto plugins that send bad notes
22:47.47steev64kergoth: yeah - it says to use an xml file
22:48.06ChosiKarlThePagan: the problem is: i can't set the imported notes as waypoints
22:48.08steev64i was more wondering if it was *required* to have an xml file - and if it was, where the other addons were hiding theres
22:48.09Chosior send them to others
22:48.11Chosior whatever
22:48.11steev64theirs*
22:48.19Chosii can click my cartographer mining notes, that's okay
22:48.20kergothsteev64: the same principle holds true.
22:48.25KarlThePaganChosi, ah interesting, ok I'll take a gander at that
22:48.26Chosibut the gatherer ones are like inactie
22:48.35kergoththe SetScript method lets you set the OnDragStart, OnDragStop, whatever scripts
22:48.36kergothfrom lua
22:48.36KarlThePaganmust be POI's of some kind...
22:48.36pastamancersteev64: if you want wow to handle saving/restoring the position, you need to create the frame with xml
22:48.44Chosiinactive tho
22:48.46KarlThePaganChosi, i'm afk for a while
22:48.47steev64pastamancer: ahh
22:48.50pastamancersteev64: otherwise, you have to do it yourself
22:48.52ChosiKarlThePagan: alright
22:48.53steev64pastamancer: theres an answer i was looking for :)
22:49.00kergothlayoutcache blows anyway
22:49.06pastamancerkergoth: agreed
22:49.29ChosiKarlThePagan: will you get back today?
22:51.19pastamancersteev64: Grid hides it in GridLayout.lua, but I should probably be using OnDragStart/OnDragStop instead of OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp
22:52.32kergothdownside to the ondrag stuff is the lag
22:52.40kergothi hate that, makes it hard to make small adjustments
22:53.29pastamancerah
22:53.29pastamancerI haven't tried it yet
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22:57.55NeoTronso it seems like going back and doing some easy lvl 60 dungeons isn't necessarily easy
22:58.06NeoTronspecifically when you do UD strat, and get to the baron...
22:58.26NeoTronit sucks if she mind controls the highest level player as he/she can become quite a killnig machine :P
22:58.48Stephmwhaha
22:59.08chutwigsomeday i want to go back to BWL and finally get judgement shoulders
22:59.09NeoTronrather if you have a varied level of the ppl, like a level 65 and others 59-61 or so
22:59.13chutwigwhich i was so long denied
22:59.32krynnomg i wish i saved my nes games
22:59.33NeoTronBWL is weird though, you need a lot of people for Vael - not much you can do about it
22:59.53chutwigmax raid size is still 40, isn't it, though
22:59.57chutwigjust the new ones are capped at 25
23:00.08NeoTronit is
23:00.16NeoTronbut good luck finding 40 people to run BWL :P
23:00.23chutwigeventually people will get bored
23:00.33chutwigand it'll be fun to zerg old stuff that used to be more challenging
23:01.25Industrialtoo bad all the new players will miss out on everything below the casual gear level
23:01.36NeoTronnah
23:01.40NeoTronnot a problem
23:01.46Industrialwhy
23:01.50NeoTronmost new dungeons are as interesting and fun as raid encounters
23:01.53NeoTronjust on a smaller scale
23:02.04NeoTronand frankly MC is horribly boring in terms of encounters
23:02.15NeoTronBWL is a bit better but not much
23:02.18NeoTronNaxxramas is the only raid dungeon I'd say is really cool
23:02.31chutwigoh, i won't miss MC
23:02.36Industrialwell have 0 raiding experience so i dont know
23:02.42Industrialthats why im saying it :)
23:02.45chutwigwe used to suicide randomly during MC runs or try to figure out how to wipe the raid
23:02.47KarlThePaganChosi, i'll be back in 45-60 min
23:02.59NeoTronjust know this - new 5 man instances are awesoem, especially higher ones
23:03.07Chosiaight
23:03.14PogoTribalOk.
23:03.14NeoTronwith interesting tactica/strategic fights rather than just tank and spank ezmode
23:03.17PogoTribalFor the last time, I promise.
23:03.22PogoTribalSomeone link me to the Aceupdater.
23:03.28PogoTribalI'm bookmarking it now, I swear.
23:03.29chutwigespecially in coming up with tactics to combat crazy encounter bugs
23:03.34Arrowmaster~wowaceupdater
23:03.35purlrumour has it, wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
23:03.35PogoTribalI have some possible converts to Ace2.
23:03.45IndustrialI recently joined a guild on a new server that is aiming for pve, so L70 pve wil be my first endgame stuff ;)
23:03.46PogoTribal~wowaceupdater ?
23:03.48purli guess wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
23:03.52PogoTribaloh
23:03.53PogoTriballol
23:03.54kergothIndustrial: what server?
23:04.01Industrialhellfire eu
23:04.11kergothah cool
23:04.14NeoTronIndustrial: there's tons to do now really
23:04.15Industrialy :D
23:04.17ckknightIndustrial: what level are you now?
23:04.21Industrial21
23:04.25ckknighthey, me too
23:04.29NeoTronheroic mode content will be a mini-raid of itself
23:04.29ckknightlvl 21 BE Priest
23:04.30ckknight;-)
23:04.40Industrialdraenei huntard
23:04.41Industrial:D
23:06.06chutwigi am the very model of a modern major-general
23:08.00Aenslaedi've information vegetable animal and mineral
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23:08.19Industriali saw a turd today
23:08.40Industrial(or isnt this the random funny line game?)
23:09.01chutwignot random lines
23:09.22Aenslaedgilbert and sullivan
23:09.44CIA-1703ckknight * r26642 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - make :GetBestZoneCoordinate more efficient
23:10.12Aenslaedis this pinafore or penzance?
23:11.27chutwigpinafore
23:11.37Ominousanyone else got vista here?
23:13.07art3miswuu > wau
23:13.19art3misgod i felt like pacino there for a sec
23:13.26art3miswwuwau!
23:14.05PogoTribalWill XPFu show me XP per hour and time to level?
23:14.22chutwigyeah
23:14.28ckknightWow Wow Wee Waa!
23:14.28chutwigestimated by level and esssion
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23:15.19NeoTronOminous: I prefer not to shoot myself in the foot ;-)
23:15.33Esteth_hello again all. it sounds stupid, but im not sure how to get information on the players target :S name, level elite/non-elite/rare etc...
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23:16.37KemayoEsteth_: Look at the various Unit* functions on wowwiki.  You can use the unitid 'target'.
23:16.47KemayoFor instance, UnitName('target')
23:16.56KemayoOr UnitLevel('target')
23:18.10Esteth_ahh, thanks :)
23:19.06art3mishrm where's anti
23:19.20art3misyou done yet?
23:19.31Antiarc|WorkHeh, afraid not. Been distracted with actual money-making work.
23:19.35art3misgasp!
23:19.39art3miswell gimme beta ;P
23:19.43art3misit's usable right?
23:20.00art3misheh yeah iactually havent played wow since last thursday cuz of work
23:20.11art3misim thinking that i wanna redesign my ui again though
23:20.17HarshmageI play at work *shhhhhh!*
23:20.36art3misheh i would play at work cept that most of the work ive been doing lately is onsite
23:20.52art3misanyone use zomgbox?
23:22.46art3misi need to find a better thing than eepanels
23:22.52art3misthey dont scale worth crap
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23:25.10CIA-1703ckknight * r26643 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - if in an instance, :GetCurrentPlayerPosition() will now return the best zone coordinate instead of the continent's coordinate
23:25.27ckknighthrm, crap, don't use that.
23:25.53ckknightlousy localization.
23:25.56Antiarc|WorkIt's....early alpha.
23:26.00Antiarc|WorkStill a lot of blocker bugs.
23:26.04Antiarc|WorkBut, I can put a zip up if you want.
23:26.06Antiarc|WorkAlso:
23:26.07Antiarc|Workhttp://www.wftv.com/news/6253589/detail.html
23:26.09Antiarc|WorkHoly. CRAP.
23:26.15kergothzip up of what?
23:26.26Antiarc|Workart3mis is wanting a copy of SanityBags
23:26.37art3misyup yup
23:26.40art3misthat would be great
23:26.51kergothah
23:26.56art3misjust the tester shots you showed make me happy ;P
23:27.01Antiarc|WorkHeh
23:27.02kergothlinky?
23:27.05art3misbaggins is making me sad
23:27.08PogoTribalCould use a Fubar_X-PerlFu
23:27.20Antiarc|Workuhhh...lemme find a shot.
23:27.31PogoTribalAnd who made Bananabar so I can punch them in the face for mandating a minimap icon and nothing else.
23:27.41PogoTribalNo option to even turn off the icon.
23:27.48Arrowmasterckknight: make cart stop changing the map zone when viewing an instance map, GetMapInfo kept returning Ashenvale, Alterac, and a few others while i was standing in outlands browsing instance maps
23:27.52kergothi love baggins, but the inability to equip/unequip physical bags easily is kinda annoying
23:28.06art3misyeah
23:28.17ckknightArrowmaster: you do it
23:28.18art3miswhat i dont like is that you cant sticky tag the locations of it
23:28.25art3misand its auto arrange is kind of annoying
23:28.25ckknightdon't tell me what to do
23:28.33Antiarc|Workhttp://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanitybags23fh.jpg
23:28.36Antiarc|WorkThere you go.
23:28.36kergothi figure itll be enough to create bags in baggins that reflect the real bags, and make a /bag command to hide/show the bartender3 bag bar
23:28.38Arrowmasterckknight: bah fine ill try and track it down when i get back from class
23:28.49ckknightalright then
23:28.54art3misyeah thats sexy
23:29.14art3mishow hard would it be to make a drag and shape panel creator?
23:29.21Antiarc|Workshape panel?
23:29.30art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg
23:29.32art3misyeah
23:29.35art3misthats 3 panels
23:29.44art3misi'd love if i could just pull down or up parts
23:29.54art3miseven if they're just right angles
23:30.03Antiarc|WorkOh, that wouldn't be hard at all.
23:30.04art3misnothing fancy like cricles or points
23:30.08art3miscircles
23:30.18Antiarc|WorkYou mean just resizing rectangles like you do the chat frame?
23:30.33art3misjust make a box, drag to size and click on a point of the line to pull it up or down
23:30.49art3misbut only drag up a section of it not the whole thing
23:31.02Antiarc|WorkWell, they'd just have to be three frames.
23:31.07art3misso i guess you'd need to setup drag points
23:31.13art3misyeah i want one ;P
23:31.18Antiarc|WorkBut that'd be easy, really. StartSizing() and StopMovingOrSizing() make that easy :P
23:31.24Eridiushey ckknight, have you heard of a problem with Ace tooltips being "disabled"?
23:31.50ckknightno, especially not in the forum which I've posted in multiple times
23:32.00ckknightplease, stop bugging me about shit I already know.
23:32.09art3miscreates a box, with user defined "drag spots" pull up on a drag spot and it takes the shortest spot up or down
23:32.19Eridiuswow, harsh response. I skimmed the forum a couple of days ago, didn't see any thread topic which looked relevant
23:32.23art3miserr leaves the spot
23:32.29art3miswow im abd at explaining ;P
23:32.37ckknightskim it right before talking to me next time
23:33.34ckknightI'm too busy to deal with every goddamn user
23:33.35EridiusFubar? Tooltip greyed out <- that topic?
23:33.35Eridiusit didn't exist when I skimmed the forums
23:33.35Eridiusso don't explode at me
23:33.49Eridiusah, there's another older thread. But the topic doesn't look right either
23:34.08ckknightthat thread
23:34.11art3mislets see... you create a box.. set its width and along the width there are "markers" each inch(or so) when you click on a marker and drag up it drags up a secion of the box between the left and right markers
23:34.12Eridius"fubar tooltips not showing text" <- doesn't sound like the same problem. But it was referenced from the newer thread, so it may be relevant
23:34.19art3misdoes that make more sense?
23:34.23ckknightI'll explode on your how I please, I don't see you paying for tech support
23:34.36Antiarc|Workck's feelin' feisty today :)
23:34.49art3mishe's bleeding from his privates
23:34.51art3mis;)
23:35.46ckknightno, I'm just tired of users taking advantage of me and giving essentially nothing back.
23:35.46art3misbut having been a wowemu owner and mud coder i totallyunderstand him ;P
23:35.46Eridiusckknight: your sitting in a chatroom which is advertised on the front page of WoWAce.com. People are going to bug you. If you don't want to deal with users, why not make a #wowace-dev chatroom?
23:35.46ckknighttoo late, already exists
23:35.46ckknightit's wonderful.
23:35.46art3misactually erid... he's got a right to sit here if he doesnt give a rats ass about you
23:35.49ckknightyou initiated the conversation
23:35.51rpowersdoes postal not support mass mailing?
23:35.52ckknightI didn't.
23:35.58art3misif YOU dont like what he's made, it's kind of up to YOU to fix it yourself or not use it ;P
23:36.11ckknightessentially, that's the situation.
23:36.11kergothrpowers: input a name in the send dialog, alt click something, it goes to that name.. alt click more things, they all keep going to that name
23:36.14Eridiusart3mis: sure, he's got a right, same as I have a right to pester him to the end of the earth. But he wouldn't like that, just as I don't enjoy being yelled at because of pent-up anger caused by other users
23:36.17kergothrpowers: thats the best it has afaik
23:36.17art3misand basically accept that he's talking to you at all
23:36.29art3misheh it's part of irc edi
23:36.33art3miserr eri
23:36.36Eridiusart3mis: and I never said I didn't like what he's made. I'm just trying to figure out this problem
23:36.44rpowersso, is there something i missed as to why gmail was renamed to postal and lost part of it's functionality?
23:36.44art3miswhich is?
23:36.46ckknightEridius: actually, you don't have that right, I could kick you if I wanted, preventing you from pestering me. I'm a nice guy, so I won't do that.
23:36.50art3missince i wasnt paying attention before
23:36.52EridiusI've been in here off and on the past few days and nobody, until now, has acknowledged that they've heard of this problem before
23:36.53kergothEridius: if you don't enjoy being yelled at, ignore him or leave, but for gods sake quit bitching
23:37.02art3misnah
23:37.04art3miscalm down
23:37.11art3misirc is all about being bitchy
23:37.11Eridiusckknight: you have a right to do that, sure. I'm just pointing out how irrelevant saying someone "has a right" to do something here is
23:37.21art3misif you're not aware of that or cant take it sell your computer ;P
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23:37.25ckknightquit bitching or leave now.
23:37.28rpowerskergoth, thanks, that works, but it seems like it would be awfully easy to mis-send something
23:37.34art3misso anyways anti
23:37.42kergothrpowers: yeah.. thats the downside.. less clicks, but no confirmation :\
23:37.48Eridiuskergoth: wow, I'm so not bitching. I asked a perfectly normal question, and now everybody's treating me like I came in here yelling "I HAVE A PROBLEM AND I WANT IT FIXED NOW AND I'M TOO GODDAMN IMPORTANT TO WAIT!" or some crap like that
23:37.49ckknightnext time, check the forums. I am sick and tired of being told the same bugs over and over and over again.
23:37.52art3misAntiarc|Work: lets see... you create a box.. set its width and along the width there are "markers" each inch(or so) when you click on a marker and drag up it drags up a secion of the box between the left and right markers
23:37.56kergothrpowers: grennon said he was working on a better mass mailing thing though, thats just a temporary workaround
23:37.59*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=Eridius@growl/Eridius] by kergoth
23:38.02*** kick/#wowace [Eridius!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (kergoth)
23:38.06art3misremove the ban
23:38.07Antiarc|WorkBetter yet, check the Trac and file a bug there if there isn't one
23:38.08ckknightthank you
23:38.10art3misyou're being a child ;P
23:38.18ckknightyea, I'd say remove the ban ...in like 5 minutes
23:38.19kergothits a tempban, i'll let him back when starts behaving himself
23:38.24ckknightah, okay
23:38.24kergothindeed
23:38.27art3misokies
23:38.32Esteth_eh? apparrently this line has a problem with ')' expected near ''infoG''. line is: Cartographer_Notes:SetNote(zone, x, y, "hostile", "Este",'title', UnitName("target"),'titleR', 1,'titleG', 0,'titleB', 0,'info', UnitLevel("target").." "..UnitRace("target"),'infoR', 1'infoG', 0,'infoB', 0)
23:38.33rpowerskergoth, thanks for the info and please don't ban me :)
23:38.49ckknightplease, check the forums before bugging me about a bug.
23:38.50Antiarc|Workart3mis: You'd have to do a "compound frame" of multiple frames anchored to each other.
23:39.02Antiarc|WorkJust anchor on the left/right points and you're gravy.
23:39.04kergothi normally dont kickban, even temporarily, but when you're advised to quit doing something and continue to do it, well..
23:39.09art3mispossible without having a seperator line between em?
23:39.15Antiarc|WorkSure, why not?
23:39.23art3misis it a 15 line addon?
23:39.25art3mis;)
23:39.27art3mishint hint
23:39.31Antiarc|WorkNot quite 15, but it wouldn't be a lot.
23:39.45Antiarc|WorkIt'd be a good addon to learn with! :D
23:39.49art3mislaugh
23:39.50art3mistouche!
23:39.54Antiarc|Workhint hint ;)
23:40.08art3miswhats a nice happy well commented wowace lua?
23:40.15art3misso i can read that and muck with it?
23:40.15Antiarc|WorkWelcomeHome is nice ;)
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23:40.31art3misi hate reading api wikis ;P
23:40.40Antiarc|WorkHeh, that might be a problem then!
23:40.45art3mishehe
23:40.49art3misi lwearned C this way
23:40.58art3mistaking source how i knew its function and playing with it
23:41.05art3misi cant learn without example sadly
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23:41.22ckknightart3mis: crack open one of the simple FuBar plugins, I'd say.
23:41.26ckknightlike ClockFu
23:41.39art3misoh good point
23:41.40Antiarc|WorkThat's probably a really good place to start.
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23:41.41CIA-1703ckknight * r26644 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - should fix some localization bugs
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23:42.03Antiarc|WorkFuBar plugins should have a lot less framework code than other plugins, so it should be fairly clear what does what.
23:42.17Antiarc|Workckknight, I'm loving the guild location stuff in cart these days
23:42.19kergothart3mis: for permanent bans, just so you know, i dont place the ban directly, i use chanserv.  you can assume that if i've placed it myself that it is temporary.
23:42.25art3misoh
23:42.25ckknightAntiarc|Work: I'm glad
23:42.27art3misokies
23:42.30kergoth:)
23:42.37art3miskick messages tell me that ;P
23:42.42ckknightart3mis: I learn by example, too
23:42.43KemayoEsteth_: You've written "1'infoG'", which should be "1, 'infoG'".
23:43.02ckknightkergoth: yea, I would've said like (tempban for 5 min) in it or so
23:43.03art3misoh
23:43.09art3misthe other thing iw as curious about
23:43.11Antiarc|WorkI am sorta...notorious around the office for not reading doc and just diving into a new project.
23:43.13Esteth_Kemayo: doh! thanks a bundle :D
23:43.44Kemayo(art3mis: For the love of god, don't try cracking open QuestsFu.  It needs to be refactored badly.)
23:43.49art3mishahaha
23:43.56kergothckknight: thats a good idea, i should actually make that my default /kb message in my irssi config
23:44.00art3misrdx gave me headaches
23:44.06CIA-1703funkydude * r26645 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: Warden Mellichar > Harbinger Skyriss
23:44.06art3misthat was that i was looking at originally
23:44.13art3misjust as a lua example
23:44.18Antiarc|WorkHahahah, rdx is not one you want to learn on.
23:44.23art3misi like the idea of ace since i dont have to do lib functions
23:44.39ckknightart3mis: hehe, yep
23:44.45ckknightthat's pretty much the point of Ace
23:44.50art3misyaya .h!
23:44.55ckknightto take care of the shitty stuff in libs already done for you
23:45.03Antiarc|WorkI'd recommend learning at least some non-Ace addon building first, then learning Ace, so you know WHAT has to be done, and then can recognize/leverage what Ace does for you.
23:45.06art3misheh yup i did that in godwars all the time
23:45.17CIA-1703ckknight * r26646 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - use .reverse["blah"] instead of :GetReverseTranslation("blah")
23:45.17ckknightAntiarc does have a point
23:45.23rpowerskergoth, hate to bother you again, but i just want to make sure the mail i just sent went to the right person.... if i put in a recipient and alt-click, it sends the mail right away to that recipient and not the previous one i was mass mailing to?
23:45.25CIA-1703funkydude * r26647 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: add Arcatraz Bosses/Loot
23:45.27ckknightyou should read non-Ace addons and grow to hate it with impunity
23:45.30Antiarc|WorkHeheh.
23:45.34art3mislaugh
23:45.43ckknightthen read Ace and realize how awesome it is ;-)
23:45.52Antiarc|WorkAce just makes a lot of stuff a -ton- simpler, but it's good to know that "this is what it does for me under the hood, though I don't have to know the implementation"
23:46.43ckknightalso, learn metatables.
23:46.43art3misoh already know its awesome
23:46.53art3mis96% of my ui is ace
23:46.54kergothrpowers: it sends it to the current name in the send box.  but look at the tooltip of the item you're mouseing over, itll say "hold alt and click to send to <person's name>" afaik
23:47.07ckknightbut yea, if you actually want to know what's going on under the hood wrt Ace2, it won't be a problem explaining
23:47.10Antiarc|WorkI'd recommend writing a simple non-GUI event-driven addon that responds to chat commands, then work on building a GUI onto that.
23:47.10art3misthere's a few addons i dont see that since i cant talk you guys into making for me i'm gonna ahve to do myself
23:47.39ckknightexample?
23:47.44Esteth_apparrently UnitRace doesnt work on mobs. how do i go about fetching the mob's race? Demon/Elemental/Beast etc...
23:47.52FinI love Ace stuff, and I know it's quite common for people to react uhm well, to defend something they love, but... I think Ace stuff needs better docs
23:48.00vhaarrFunkeh`: Did you remove the Warden?
23:48.02ckknightEsteth_: check out wowwiki
23:48.08vhaarrFunkeh`: Or just add Skyriss.
23:48.18vhaarrFunkeh`: If so, add him back.
23:48.24kergothFin: what aspect of the docs do you think is missing? more examples?  the libs have the api docs side covered
23:48.24ckknightFin: like how so? I documented all the methods :-P
23:48.26art3misso where's my link for sanity bags btw?
23:48.33Antiarc|WorkAt home :P
23:48.38art3misthat has some code i wanna steal for the addon i wanna make ;P
23:48.39Antiarc|WorkI don't have the files here to zip up for you.
23:48.42Funkeh`vhaarr: yes i removed him
23:48.45art3misoh yer actually AT work?
23:48.53Funkeh`since he has no real validity
23:48.59art3misthat means nothing ;P
23:49.03art3misthat just means your working
23:49.05art3misheh
23:49.07Antiarc|WorkSanityBags mostly just wraps Blizzard's bag code in a pretty wrapper.
23:49.18Esteth_ckKnight: im on wowiki and wowace, but i cant find the right page :S
23:49.25vhaarrFunkeh`: Sure he does, triggering mod enables and parsing his yells for timers.
23:49.27Antiarc|Work90% of its code is the filter/sorting. The rest is taken care of by Bliz.
23:49.34ckknightEsteth_: it's UnitRaceType or something
23:49.38rpowerskergoth, thanks for the reassurance. i warned the other person just in case
23:49.42ckknightEsteth_: go to World of Warcraft API
23:49.44Funkeh`doing 5 mans now?
23:49.55Antiarc|WorkUnitCreatureType()
23:50.05Antiarc|Workhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API is your bestest friend.
23:50.18Finckknight: it's not bad, and covers everything technically, but... I learned most of the little I know so far by reading code
23:50.19Esteth_aha! thanks :D
23:50.21BarbanusLittleWigs would be cool :)
23:50.23vhaarrFunkeh`: Heroic mode 5mans might need some timers.
23:50.26vhaarrBarbanus: Indeed.
23:50.33Funkeh`hmm cool
23:50.49Funkeh`how do we distinguish between heroic and non-heroic
23:50.55kergothFin: so what exactly did you learn out of hte code taht you didnt from the docs, how the api is used in real world situations? examples?
23:51.04BarbanusSo should LittleWigs be a module for BigWigs?
23:51.10ckknightBarbanus: LittleWigs?
23:51.23Funkeh`LittleWigs is BigWIgs wife, he fucks her when hes stressed
23:51.27BarbanusLittleWigs = 5 man heroic BigWigs :)
23:51.45BarbanusI'm in love with the name ... it just ... fits.
23:51.48rpowersBarbanus, that would be a cute name for a heroic boss module for bigwigs
23:51.58Barbanusrpowers, that was the idea, yes
23:52.05vhaarrI approve.
23:52.06rpowersBarbanus, i was agreeing that it should be a module
23:52.13Barbanusahhh
23:52.19Finkergoth: I wasn't suggesting more docs because I'm not learning enough
23:53.03rpowersbigwigs keeps announcing that it has enabled karazhan beta module, but i haven't seen it actually announce anything
23:53.16rpowersnot that there's much to announce on the bosses we've killed
23:53.53BarbanusAparantly the heroics are amazingly hard
23:53.56Finkergoth: now you ask I'm finding it difficult to think of good examples of the stuff I was looking for, but maybe, like, more discussion and stuff? examples would be good, yeah, I like those :) but I'm simple
23:54.03kergothhmm
23:54.17BarbanusI was listening into our guilds run slavepens ...
23:54.18Finstuff that's a bit *nicer* about telling you how things work :P
23:54.32Finaaaanyway! it's not a criticism really more of a comment :)
23:54.32Eridiusckknight: to clear up any confusion, I was not attempting to complain. I was just looking for information. I think Ace is wonderful, and I'm appreciative of all the work you guys put in. I'm even considering contributing to MacAceUpdater.
23:54.35rpowersBarbanus, from what i have heard, the heroics are supposed to be more difficult than the first tier of raid instances
23:54.49FinI hate writing docs myself, but I know how useful they are as well
23:54.55Barbanushttp://progenyguild.com/forums/userpix/22_heroic_1.jpg
23:54.57art3misdocs are for wusses ;P
23:54.59kergothmaybe ace2 needs more of a users manual, starting with why ace2 is designed the way it is, moving into the various libraries, which ones use one another, and then the apis and individual api usage examples, moving on to more fleshed out examples using multiple aspects of the apis
23:55.02art3misjust code comment ;P
23:55.02Fineverybody hates writing docs
23:55.03CIA-1703funkydude * r26648 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: re-add Warden Mellichar for a special future project
23:55.06kergothand no, i'm not volunteering to write it
23:55.08Finkergoth: yes!
23:55.10Barbanusthat was a trash mob .. btw
23:55.14art3mislaugh
23:55.17art3misill write it!
23:55.19ckknightEridius: then recognize that all I want is to not be bugged about the same bugs over and over. Next time, just recheck the forum to make sure it hasn't been reported. That's all
23:55.20Cyrezckknight: Quick question about PerformanceFu... Does WoW and/or the addon do a periodic garbage collection?
23:55.24art3misand then sell it at b&n!
23:55.25ckknightconversation over
23:55.28Fineven just the first bit about why ace2 is the way it is would be nice :)
23:55.30*** join/#wowace GrimmyD (n=bd82@S0106000c6e932f69.vw.shawcable.net)
23:55.33art3misand o'reilly will purchase it and make my a gazillionaire
23:55.38ckknightCyrez: nope, people bitched when I put it in, so it's not in anymore.
23:55.48ckknightCyrez: lua 5.1 does incremental garbage collection
23:55.49CyrezAh...
23:55.57BarbanusActually, I should quantify that a little more, 10k crit on our 5/9 dreadnaught tank from a trash mob in slavepens heroic :P
23:55.57Finkergoth: are you being sarcastic, though? :)
23:55.58Finheh
23:55.59kergothCyrez: you can programmatically manipulate the wow gc behavior
23:56.00rpowersBarbanus, our tanks are starting to get crazy HP as they get more TBC gear, so that becomes less and less of a problem
23:56.04ckknightif you click PerformanceFu, you can trigger a full GC
23:56.13rpowersin karazhan, our MT popped last stand and was up to 17k HP :o
23:56.15kergothFin: no, i think a users manual like that would be beneficial, and i dont think i'd be the one to write it
23:56.20Barbanusrpowers, heh, yea
23:56.40rpowersthey have also mentioned that there's more and more tanking gear with dodge on it
23:56.41Barbanusrpowers, its just strange to see the mobs hit like patchwerk
23:56.51rpowersBarbanus, we only ever got Raz :(
23:57.04rpowerswe did get the twin emps, though, so we know spikes :)
23:57.09CyrezI was just curious. But, is there some way for PerformanceFu to report when one has been triggered, at the least? Like a little tooltip or something would pop up?
23:57.36Finanyway, the whole ace thing is awesome - ace! - I don't like to seem negative :)
23:57.50Barbanusrpowers, patchwerk would hit a tank for 7-9.5k every 1.2 seconds.
23:57.54Finand you always have to remember this is all for free in people's spare time and stuff
23:58.15rpowersBarbanus, i'm familiar with the fight by documentation, but i never got to see it in practice
23:58.15art3misthat doesnt mean you cant drive then like sweat shop children
23:58.16Finpeople are always forgetting that
23:58.17art3mis;P
23:58.29Barbanusrpowers, heh, it was a cockblock for like 2-3 weeks for us
23:58.43ckknightCyrez: nope.
23:59.00Fin+returns to
23:59.03rpowersattendance was a cockblock for us
23:59.21Feldiaanyone know of a page with a detailed description of how to use KCI?
23:59.26Feldiathe wiki page is pretty much empty
23:59.43rpowerspeople started to not show up for raids once we got to huhu, we downed her, then it got to the point where we couldn't even get enough for the first AQ bosses
23:59.49rpowersbut we'd have 50-60 people signed up for BWL
23:59.53Esteth_anyone know how i can discard the first two return values of a function?
23:59.55CyrezOkay, just curious... I was using the forced garbage collection and I thought of those times (I live in an apartment) when I had garbage to take out but the bin was overfilled so I had to listen for the garbage truck and wait for it to empty the bin. ^^

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