irclog2html for #wowace on 20070129

00:00.25Anduneckknight: that was the only feature I really missed from MetaMap.  Thanks for adding!
00:00.55ckknightalright
00:00.58CIA-1703ckknight * r26424 10Cartographer/cartographerlod.bat: Cartographer - update batch file
00:01.09kergothsylvanaar, and again you prove yourself a fool by making foolish assumptions.  this is getting to be a pattern.
00:01.12Daemonawhat you can tloc 50,50 and it shows a cursor on minimap to the spot? :D
00:01.25ckknightokay, so now for all the fucks that said Cartographer was getting too bloated, I implore you to move the modules into the Addons folder.
00:01.26sylvanaarkergoth you are the one being hostil
00:02.03TainI got a right to be hostile!  My people been persecuted!
00:02.03sylvanaarkergoth im not sure how your hostility makes me look bad
00:02.23kergothyour inability to use logic makes you look bad.  assuming you know better when you clearly do not makes you look bad.
00:02.25Silviu-ckk
00:02.27Silviu-[2007/01/29 02:02:08-182-x1]: Cartographer\Cartographer.lua:745: '=' expected near 'end'
00:02.29kergothmy hostility reflects only on me.
00:02.36ZealotOnAStickHey, both of you!  Enhance your calm before I begin expounding on the relative merits of Lincoln Douglas vs. Cross Examination debate, or something equally boring.
00:02.53CIA-1703ckknight * r26425 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - don't know how that 6 got in there.
00:03.22ckknightI think we can look for precedence in the landmark case of Finders vs. Keepers
00:03.49Silviu-ckk another one now, sec i pastey
00:03.52PProvost_WHo's maintaining buffalo these days?
00:03.53sylvanaarkergoth frankly i didnt say much at all to you that was offensive - however the reverse is not the case
00:03.58TainOk doing tradeskills without KC_ET is just painful.  
00:04.14Silviu-http://www.pastey.net/5618
00:04.48CIA-1703ckknight * r26426 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix typo.
00:04.56ckknightSilviu-: you should be set now.
00:04.58ckknightthanks
00:05.00Silviu-Oky
00:05.02Silviu-Np :)
00:05.30Silviu-Works smooth, thx
00:05.51ckknightthe other Cartographer modules should be updated to use the new LoD system, probably
00:06.44foxlitaddon frame needs to be revised with all of this LoD stuff going on in the name of memory efficiency.
00:07.09foxlitSome sort of tree structure would be better :P
00:07.45ckknightaddon frame?
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00:09.15sylvanaarfoxlit i was trying that out with some in-game addon managers, but there is no common way to know what is part of what
00:09.54winkiller-ckknight: now that I see you active, I'd like to say a buig thanks for some of the stuff you made - mostly great work :)
00:09.56vhaarrsylvanaar: RequiredDeps/Dependencies.
00:10.15ckknight:-)
00:10.39sylvanaarvhaarr: doesnt always work
00:10.58break19winkiller-: mostly, hell.. I havent seen anything of his that wasnt great work. :)
00:11.46winkiller-I didn't try all - and I don't want to him to get too much self esteem :P
00:11.54break19heh
00:12.14Grollwhat's the macro commant to target partymember x?
00:12.18Grollcommand
00:13.23ckknight<PROTECTED>
00:13.26ckknight<PROTECTED>
00:13.26sylvanaarckknight where are you putting all the LoD pieces, as separate addons?
00:13.35Grollthanks ckknight
00:13.48ckknightsylvanaar: they're in Cartographer, you can take em out if you want.
00:13.53ckknightit's like how BigWigs does it
00:14.54sylvanaarckknight i was going to say you can use WAU's package feature to have it move them up a directory
00:15.57WraithanTekkub: You there?
00:16.11TekkubAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
00:16.13Tekkubwhat?
00:16.20Tekkubwork == kill al humans
00:16.38sylvanaarckknight so long as you dont need to rename the directories
00:16.44ckknightyou don't
00:16.53ckknightseems cool
00:16.58WraithanSorry, I was attempting to extend FuBar_CorkFu to include weapon enchants for shaman, but I am stuck and was wondering if you have ever tried to get the exact enchant on an item?
00:16.59Kirkburnlol Tekkub
00:17.00ckknightI don't know where to start with that, though
00:17.14sylvanaarckknight lemee test it myself, and then i'll add it
00:17.27winkiller-Tekkub: regarding http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns - does that also apply to loading times at char login? with the "useless" loading and Garbagecollecting?
00:17.28Tekkubno I havn't
00:17.32Tekkubfuck you kirki
00:17.54WraithanTekkub: Alright, I will keep working at it, sorry to bother you...
00:18.07Tekkubit's login, and the new WU tells you GC numbers so that page is kinda moot
00:18.09ckknightsylvanaar: sounds good.
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00:19.06winkiller-it's just that I have a login time of 90 sec - and no idea how to speed it up - thought of trying that "unembedding" mentioned
00:20.32CIA-1703ckknight * r26427 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua:
00:20.33CIA-17.AceAddon-2.0 - added a hack so that if you call LoadAddOn inside an :OnInitialize, it will call the :OnEnable in the order one would expect.
00:20.33CIA-17Previously, Alpha's OnInitialize, load Bravo; Bravo's OnInitialize; Bravo's OnEnable; Alpha's OnEnable.
00:20.33CIA-17Now, Alpha's OnInitialize, load Bravo; Bravo's OnInitialize; Alpha's OnEnable; Bravo's OnEnable.
00:21.07CIA-1703ckknight * r26428 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - load modules in OnInitialize instead of OnEnable
00:21.23ckknightcrap, there's a debug line somewhere
00:21.51ckknightokay, no worries
00:25.34CIA-1703ckknight * r26429 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/module.lua: Cartographer_InstanceNotes - remove the old thing that says that InstanceNotes is no longer supported as an addon, since it is now.
00:27.06ckknightalright
00:27.09ckknightI think we're all set.
00:27.11Wraithanckknight: many thanks for Cartographer, it is very nice :D
00:27.19ckknight:-)
00:27.23ckknightyou're welcome
00:28.02WraithanAnd the WAU package is the only reason I installed it heh, i figured wth, worst that happens I go back and delete it :D
00:28.24winkiller-I find the wow addon api quite strange tbh
00:28.36ckknightWraithan: hehe
00:28.43ckknightno other map addon has anything on me :-P
00:28.53ckknightwinkiller-: yea, it is
00:29.50Wraithanwinkiller-: yeah, me too... I am still looking for an easy way to get the weapon enchant on a given slot, been playing with lots of functions ehh
00:30.37winkiller-I mean.. I've used quite some languages, apis, frameworks and stuff - but only c gave me that same awkward feeling to make me stumble backwards on first sight :P
00:31.04WraithanI didn't have as much problems with C/C++ as I have with addon stuff
00:31.30Wraithanatleast there I knew where my data was coming from and the standard functions had documentation
00:31.44winkiller-well, it's also lua+api.. like learning MFC and the language at day1
00:32.56CIA-1703ckknight * r26430 10Cartographer/ (21 files in 14 dirs): Cartographer - set svn:keywords on the modules
00:33.06WraithanAye
00:34.23sylvanaarckknight you want me to commit the batch file to creat the file wau needs or the bat + the file
00:34.41ckknightdo what you want
00:35.20Chosihey
00:35.30Chosialmost all of my cartographer bugs got blown away o/
00:35.39Chosistill having some ace2 stuff occuring
00:35.40Chosilike [2007/01/28 21:46:00-27-x3]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarRight:SetPoint()'.
00:35.55CIA-1703sylvanaar * r26431 10Cartographer/ (cart_makefilelist_wau.bat filelist.wau): Cartographer added auto unpack file for use with WAU and bat file to create it. WAU 1.7 will unpack the LoD modules when it installs the addon an repack them before it deletes it.
00:37.08CIA-1703ckknight * r26432 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu - fix bug on profile change
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00:40.03Chosiomg just tried the waypoint thing for the first time
00:40.07Chosithis just rocks ;D
00:41.12Finpristine horns!
00:41.58ZealotOnAStickAnyone know if there's a way to get Acolyte to line up vertically rather than horizontally?
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00:42.55TainI'm disturbed but I just remembered that I had a dream this weekend that Blizzard added being able to enter coords into a window and your char would automatically run there.
00:43.00Chosiwaypoints are a cartographer feature aren't they?
00:43.53ckknightyes, chosi
00:43.58Silviu-ckk, guildposition don`t have "icons" anymore maybe u forget the path to the tga`s?
00:44.08Chosican you create waypoints on the map and send them to other cartographers?
00:44.08ckknightah, that could do it
00:44.45Silviu-Chosi yes
00:44.55Chosiah alright
00:46.45winkiller-hdd full - why o why - aah! 2.5GB wow screeny folder.
00:47.47Finpff
00:47.49Finamateur
00:48.02break19winkiller-: so, uhm... you know .. mine is 6.66GB :p
00:48.36winkiller-well, problem is that I already moved that 2,5gb to another partition - that's where it's full
00:48.45winkiller-good old q2 days with small screenies :/
00:49.01break19and.. since my laptop only has a 60gb.. thats over 10% of my hd :)
00:49.28CIA-1703ckknight * r26433 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer_GuildPositions - fix path finder
00:49.40Silviu-thx ckk
00:50.28ckknightsee, it has to calculate the path dynamically cause it can exist both in Cartographer and in its own folder.
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00:51.35Ordogargl any 65+ shaman present?
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00:53.36Silviu-ckk sorry if i stressed u today :/ but another error bugsack don`t catch it tho it goes in chat on login/reload http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot012907025226iw0.jpg
00:54.31ckknightthe line number's out of date, so I can't help you
00:54.54Silviu-What u mean ? :)
00:55.34ckknightthere's nothing on line 103.
00:56.04Silviu-This come with latest modify of GuildPositions.lua
00:56.06Silviu-Oh
00:56.08Silviu-Ahm ..:P
00:57.24Silviu-103 at me isAceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print(debugstack(1, 1, 0))
00:57.37Silviu-and 73 function Cartographer_GuildPositions:OnInitialize()
00:58.08Daemonawinkiller- learn to convert to JPG ;)
00:58.16Mikmai got the same error
00:58.25winkiller-will do, will do
00:58.32Mikmadidn't relog tho
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01:00.12Mokhi there!
01:01.29Moki've got a somehow weird problem with table-lookups and hope i find some answers here
01:02.26ckknightMok: k
01:02.33ckknightSilviu-: update
01:02.54ckknightweird.
01:02.59Silviu-Did
01:03.12CIA-1703ckknight * r26434 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer_GuildPositions - remove debug line
01:03.16Mokbasically i do
01:03.24Mokicon = GetTradeSkillIcon(4)
01:03.26Mokt = {}
01:03.28Mokt['Interface\/Icons\/INV\_Chest\_Chain\_14'] = "test"
01:03.30Silviu-Oh now
01:03.50Mokbut then t[icon] is nil
01:04.11vhaarr\\, not \/
01:04.12Nargiddleyuse \\ not \/
01:04.39Mokif i Print(icon) i get forward slashes..
01:04.47Mokill try :)
01:04.49Silviu-ckk, works thx again :P
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01:05.11ckknightMok: you need to do \\
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01:07.16WraithanWhat is the mod people used instead of Flexbar... I cant seem to remember its name
01:07.30Mokckknight: great! thanks.
01:08.19Wraithanahh.. discord
01:08.44Moks/ckknight/vhaarr/
01:09.44Wraithanpurl a bot?
01:09.52Wraithans/bot/machine/
01:09.58Thrae~purl
01:09.59purlwell, purl is evil
01:09.59Wraithanlol nice
01:10.10ckknightpurl sucks
01:10.11purlonly if you ask nicely and pay well.
01:10.11PProvost_~smack Wraithan
01:10.14purlACTION smacks Wraithan upside the head.
01:10.19Thraepurl, no purl is an evil bot.
01:10.21purlokay, Thrae
01:10.36Wraithan~purl
01:10.38purlextra, extra, read all about it, purl is an evil bot.
01:10.38Thrae~no
01:10.39purlYES
01:10.44Thrae~is
01:10.45purli heard is is the country code for iceland
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01:12.37Wraithangoing to go give Discord Action Bars a go... I really liked flexbar, hopefull discord can provide most of the functionality
01:12.45break19~flexbar
01:12.46purlhmm... flexbar is a button creation/manipulation addon. You can find its forums at http://www.flexbarforums.com/
01:12.50break19heh
01:12.59Thrae~flexbar2
01:13.07break19~respawn
01:13.12Thrae~thrae
01:13.13purlit has been said that thrae is awesome.
01:13.17break19heh
01:13.33Wraithanjust because it has been said, doesn't mean it is true
01:13.44break19respawn should be, 'what happens when WoW decided you've killed enough of its mobs and thinks you should die.
01:14.12Thrae~coffee
01:14.21break19~doughnuts
01:14.25kergothbreak19, fix that then
01:14.35kergoth~respawn is what happens when WoW decided you've killed enough of its mobs and thinks you should die.
01:14.37purlkergoth: okay
01:15.06break19kergoth: thanks. didnt know just anyone could add stuff :)
01:15.12Thrae~me
01:15.14purlhmm... thrae is awesome.
01:15.17kergoth~factstats
01:15.23kergothhmm
01:15.39kergoth~factstats requested
01:16.12kergoth~huh
01:16.13purlWelcome to ICQ.
01:16.16kergoth~ham
01:16.17purlextra, extra, read all about it, ham is oink oink
01:16.22kergoth..
01:16.28Thrae~randomfact
01:16.33Wraithan~huh
01:16.34purlWelcome to ICQ.
01:16.41kergoththere is a random factoid.. umm.. let me think..
01:16.43kergoth~cookie
01:16.48Thrae~random
01:16.56kergoth~cookie
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01:19.13Wraithanhmm
01:19.48Wraithandidn't install any new mods and just updated and now I am geting an error about babble 2.0, when it says that I have 2.2 installed
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01:23.25Wraithandeleted the embeded version of babble from CorkFu since it was the old version, now everything is peachy :D
01:24.24WraithanI lied, CorkFu is not working... =/
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01:28.45Wraithanok all works this time for sure
01:29.27steevhow do i tell an addon to load in the middle of the screen (its frame)
01:29.36steevprogramatically, not like, an option
01:30.00WraithanSince I am not an author of a mod, how would I go about suggesting a change, with code to be added/patched?
01:30.01NightHawkTheSaneckknight: Would it be possible to have an option in waypoints to auto-clear them when you get within, say, 5 yards?
01:30.22ckknightI dunno about that
01:30.25Wraithannevermind.. need to debug it more
01:30.27ckknightwould be pretty hard
01:30.33ckknightgranted, it's already in the code
01:30.39ckknightso I'm not too worried
01:31.31NightHawkTheSaneNo worries either way, it'd just be handy.
01:32.11OvrLrd-Qckknight: did you move alot of stuff in and out of the core?
01:32.30break19OvrLrd-Q: yea.. lots of changed in cart tonight..
01:32.53OvrLrd-Qok, just making sure I didn't fubar my addons :) since WAU was telling me no public versions
01:32.55break19since they comin so fast tonight, I'm usin svn to update now :p
01:33.17Arrowmasterckknight: small thing ive noticed that im not sure if its a bug or not but i think it is, in cart when you select an instance map it seems to change the map zone so that other mods like locationfu cant get coords till cart is closed or goes back to the zone map
01:33.19ckknightNightHawkTheSane: did you not just realize that it's already in the code.
01:33.30OvrLrd-Qare some of the folders safe to delete?
01:34.31ckknightModules, Artwork
01:34.55NightHawkTheSaneckknight: er, woops, missed where you said that, and I didn't see it anywhere in options
01:35.18break19i think its automatic, is what he's saying, NightHawkTheSane
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01:37.17CIA-1703nargiddley 07alpha * r26435 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua:
01:37.17CIA-17WaterfallLib:
01:37.17CIA-17- Dropdown control can take an iterator to get its list of values
01:37.45NightHawkTheSanehmm, maybe I need to update my version then
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01:38.52CIA-1703nargiddley * r26436 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Waterfall dialog now using a dropdown for the quality threshold
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01:40.45MikmaNargiddley: so should i test those too
01:40.56NargiddleyMikma, if you want :D
01:41.05Mikmabut do i have to
01:41.09Nargiddleynah
01:41.35Nargiddleyi'll try to get alot more options done before it'll need thorough testing
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01:42.53MikmaNargiddley: i thought back then that waterfall is a mage addon
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01:45.22CIA-1703shiftos * r26437 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
01:45.22CIA-17Babble-2.2:
01:45.23CIA-17- Babble-Zone: updated esES
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01:49.12Mikmackknight: what does POI (point of interest) stand for in Cartographer?
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01:49.30ckknightpoint of interest.
01:49.41markvit's when you inquire with a guard as to wehre something is
01:49.44markvthat is your point of interest
01:49.47markvand hence marked on the map!
01:49.56Mikmaoh ok, that's a good explanation
01:50.03Mikmathen another question regarding that
01:50.09ckknightI would've called it GuardNote
01:50.09markvthat's the only time i've seen it get marked is when i talk to a guard
01:50.10ckknightor something
01:50.15Mikmawhy does Stormwind show all the blue dots on map? :)
01:50.31markvit's warning you where the stormy winds are?
01:50.38Mikma:D
01:50.47markvdanger will robinson danger
01:50.50Mikmaand no, i haven't asked the instructions from guards
01:51.05Mikmastill my map is filled with blue dots :)
01:51.21markvmaybe if you connect them it'll create a picture?
01:51.32markvi'd suggest using permanent marker, so the picture will be forever on your monitor
01:51.39Mikmahmm
01:51.48Mikmamaybe it's a picture of Boss' ass
01:52.02markvit's a secret map to ckknights hidden treasure
01:52.12markvyarrrrrrrr where be da booty
01:52.30Mikmalooty da booty!
01:52.51markvi wish I was given the title of bloodsail admiral ors omething for getting my bloodsail quest done
01:53.11Mikmaso that you could use it to replace pvp rank
01:53.19Mikmawould be neat since i'm friendly with them :D
01:53.37markvi want  to go get a slurpee but it's -24c and snowing outside
01:53.53markvi had to go back to hated with them to get my cooking quests done.
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01:54.05Mikmawell go outside standing naked in the snow and you'll get something :P
01:55.34markvyeah, frostbite
01:58.19Mikmasomething bad is going on with SilverDragon :/ can't get the notes from my wife for some reason, but she can get mone
01:58.39markvwomen can always get money
01:58.45markvohhh wait you said she can get your notes :P hehe
01:58.49Mikmathat's their racial passive
01:59.06markvbetter make sure you send her some love notes or she'll be jealous, but make sure you put another womans name in it
01:59.43Mikmahmm, sounds masochistic
01:59.47Mikmathat's what i'll do
02:01.21Mikmacan't understand why i can't get the notes
02:01.31Mikmawe both using the same version of cart and silverdragon
02:01.42markvmaybe she's passing notes to another man?
02:01.51Mikmain party
02:02.04Mikmai'm the only one in it so i get all the attention i want
02:02.09Mikma<- attentionwhore
02:02.24markvit's ok i'll send her sekrit msgs
02:03.33winkiller-hm, there must be something wrong I guess... 1.404 sec|r | FuBar_MoneyFu (51 KiB|r - 1518 KiB)", -- [64]
02:04.01markvwinkiller: it's simply stating you must give me all of your in-game gold so I can buy my epic flying mount.
02:04.15winkiller-sure. come to my server
02:04.30markvOk, but only if you give me 3k gold
02:05.07markvI figure I can probably make like 1k in gold doing quests in shadowmoon valley
02:05.16markvthen I'll have to farm the last 2k :(
02:10.40Silviu-Ohm only 2401g at 68 :(
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02:13.34Eridiushey folks. I'm having 2 separate problems with Ace mods
02:13.54CIA-1703laotseu * r26438 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua):
02:13.54CIA-17AllPlayed:
02:13.54CIA-17- New BC installed setting
02:13.54CIA-17- New option to change the font size (default 12)
02:14.05EridiusI'm using the Mac AceUpdater app to keep everything up to the latest n' greatest, so my problems are relevant ;)
02:14.17Eridiusfirst is, the Cartographer InstanceNotes plugin is screwed up. All the notes are in the wrong place on the map
02:14.27Eridiusthey're in the right instance, but the wrong location
02:14.49Eridiusthe second is after a very short time in the game, every tooltip for any Ace mod is damaged. It's extremely dark and won't accept any mouse input in the tooltip
02:16.43Eridiusoh hey, nevermind, the name is just something other than "InstanceNotes" ;)
02:17.34Eridiusckknight: if you have the time, can you read my problems? I'm primarily concerned about the second issue - I can always use Atlas for the first
02:18.59Silviu-Eridius i just checked in Naxx and all notes are in the right position
02:19.13EridiusSilviu-: I was running WC last night and all of the notes were really skewed
02:19.23Silviu-WC = ?
02:19.23Eridiusand I had just updated all of my Ace extensions to the latest from files.wowace.com
02:19.26EridiusWailing Caverns
02:19.44nymbianobody's corrected em since the maps got changed.  you're welcome to ;)
02:20.09Eridiusmaps changed? huh
02:20.36Silviu-Well i think i was 1 time or 2 there so dunno really where the bosses are
02:20.37Silviu-;)
02:20.43EridiusI don't suppose you have any ideas about my tooltip problem?
02:20.44CIA-1703funkydude * r26439 10Cartographer/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Cartographer: various updates
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02:21.20Nargiddleydo you have any errors happening, sounds like an addon is killing tablet somehow
02:21.51Eridiusno, the only errors I got last night were related to Stitch, and that happened long after the tooltip issue
02:23.00Eridiusif it makes a difference I didn't have Tablet installed manually, I think that was bundled with FuBar.
02:23.02nymbiai should fix that
02:23.37Nargiddleynewest is used
02:24.08Eridiusnot surprisingly, reloading the UI fixes the tooltip problem (temporarily)
02:25.40Nomad_Wanderer~seen ckknight
02:26.07purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #norganna #wowace. Has said a total of 88 messages. Is idling for 35m 57s, last said: 'or something'.
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02:31.22CIA-1703funkydude * r26440 10AHsearch/libs/: AHsearch: fixed externals
02:37.36vid`does cooldowncount work with autobar?
02:37.42vid`omnicc hasnt worked with autobar in like 2 weeks
02:39.07NightHawkTheSaneer, omnicc's been working fine for me
02:39.31vid`hmm
02:39.34vid`maybe my autobanr is messed up
02:39.40vid`cause i still get black squares around my hotkeys
02:39.44vid`with cycircled
02:43.18vid`guess i can try deleteing my autobar file in wtf
02:43.23stavmarEridius: I am having the same issue with my fubar tooltips. Has anyone heard about a possible solution
02:47.40vid`k delted autobar lua from wtf
02:47.41vid`lets try now!
02:48.04vid`so noone else is having probs with cooldown counts displaying in autobar with omnicc?
02:49.49vid`hmm
02:49.54vid`that got rid of my black squares :P
02:50.34NightHawkTheSanewell, that's good :)
02:53.18vid`didnt fix cooldown count tho
02:53.19vid`:(
02:53.34Neuro_Medivhdoes any addon add the large numbers to Bartender's buttons?  I know it worked in TBC beta, but ever since release it hasn't worked
02:53.36vid`and black squares are back after i zoned
02:53.41vid`wtf
02:53.46vid`maybe its cycircled
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02:58.32vid`hmm
02:58.39vid`drdamage updates the tooltip on all the spells
02:58.42vid`with dmg
02:58.48vid`and thats when the black squares pop up on autobar
02:58.59vid`autobar isnt saving the style, dreamlayout/default/zoomed
02:59.08vid`theres no checkbox in any of the boxes
02:59.19vid`think that might be one of the probs
02:59.57Barbanuswhoa, what happened to Cart .. lol
03:01.09BarbanusWTF, all of my ace mods are broken
03:04.05SlackerJerfully exit WoW and go back in. don't just reloadui
03:04.13BarbanusOh, I have .. lots
03:04.58vid`hehe that happened to me before
03:16.47kebinusanis there a mod like ezdismount but wont dismount you if you're flying
03:16.51CIA-1703next96 * r26441 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua:
03:16.51CIA-17Cartographer :
03:16.52CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:17.04kebinusanfifth time today Ive pancaked myself from 7000 feet
03:17.53kebinusanhmm maybe it was automation doing it
03:18.29Barbanusdid you try to cast?
03:18.38Barbanusand got a "cannot do while mounted" error?
03:18.46Barbanusif so .. thats automation :)
03:19.02kebinusanyeah
03:19.17kebinusanwell tried to type a response without the edit box up
03:19.22kebinusanso Im sure I hit a spell key
03:21.49CIA-1703next96 * r26442 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Coordinates/Coordinates.lua:
03:21.49CIA-17Cartographer_Coordinates :
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03:26.33CIA-1703next96 * r26443 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GroupColors/GroupColors.lua:
03:26.33CIA-17Cartographer_GroupColors :
03:26.33CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:29.28CIA-1703next96 * r26444 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua:
03:29.28CIA-17Cartographer_InstanceLoot :
03:29.28CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:30.09PProvost_Does anyone know who's maintaining Buffalo these days?
03:31.19PProvost_Nvm... I'll just hack around it.
03:35.12CIA-1703next96 * r26445 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
03:35.12CIA-17Cartographer_LookNFeel :
03:35.12CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:38.03MikmaPProvost_: hackalo
03:38.42PProvost_Thanks Mikma. Don't suppose he's on IRC often?
03:38.54MikmaPProvost_: hmm haven't seen him in irc never i think
03:39.00PProvost_hehe
03:39.20Mikmahe was just a guy that appeared on the forums and svn and updated it and then disappeared
03:39.24PProvost_Just discovered that the "hide" options don't persist between sessions. Hard to believe nobody noticed that.
03:39.36CIA-1703next96 * r26446 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua:
03:39.36CIA-17Cartographer_Notes :
03:39.36CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:41.17CIA-1703next96 * r26447 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Professions/Professions.lua:
03:41.17CIA-17Cartographer_Professions :
03:41.17CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:41.53Mikmanext96 just keeps on updating koKReans
03:42.02PProvost_Since I typically want that when using my PoisonFu addon, I'm just hacking around it for either the Buffalo weaponbuff frame or the built-in one from there.
03:43.03CIA-1703next96 * r26448 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua:
03:43.03CIA-17Cartographer_Notes :
03:43.03CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:44.12CIA-1703next96 * r26449 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua:
03:44.12CIA-17Cartographer_Waypoints :
03:44.12CIA-17- Update locale koKR
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03:56.23vid`http://ace.pastey.net/5623
03:56.26vid`anyone seen that with manufac?
03:58.18CIA-1703funkydude * r26450 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: some test update
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04:03.20CIA-17Cartographer_Icons :
04:03.20CIA-17- Update locale koKR
04:04.10nymbiavid`: it's caused by an incompatible auctioneer (not updating auctioneer support til its out of alpha), just turn off price data for now
04:05.19vid`ah
04:05.25vid`i just deleted auctioneer :P
04:05.28vid`gonna use kc_items
04:05.31vid`i gues
04:06.06CIA-1703funkydude * r26452 10Cartographer/ (9 files in 8 dirs): Cartographer: real utf
04:06.18vid`ive been meaning to try it anyway
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04:10.27art3misya know wuu is prettyawesome
04:10.40art3mistakes a couple to configure the non ace mods but past that its groovy
04:10.47TainYour mom is pretty awesome.
04:10.52art3misreally?
04:10.56art3misyou need glasses
04:11.04art3misand possibly new fingers
04:11.06cynyri'll show you pretty awsome, right in the eye :P
04:11.22art3misjerks!
04:11.23art3mis;)
04:11.59Tainhah hah
04:14.11vid`does kci_items have enchantrix like functionality?
04:14.16vid`to show what items de too?
04:17.03break19vid`: Gazmik Fizzwidget's Disenchant Predictor is better
04:17.16break19also puts a tooltip on the DE'd stuff and says what to DE to make more of em
04:17.23vid`hmm
04:17.30vid`where do you get that?
04:17.31vid`:)
04:18.07vid`wowi i guess
04:18.37CyrezNo, they have their own site. ^^
04:18.39art3misblah wheres anti
04:18.40Cyrezhttp://fizzwidget.com/
04:18.45art3misi want sanity bags durnit!
04:18.45vid`cool thanks :)
04:18.47vid`never heard of that!
04:18.51vid`will check out
04:18.54vid`i already like kc_items better
04:19.02vid`niot as much tooltip spam as auctioneer
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04:19.06art3misthere's another tiny one that does it too but i cant remember where its from or its name ;P
04:19.16xyuuselesss!
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04:19.20art3misi know
04:19.31art3misand ill remember it tomorrow long after the fact
04:19.38art3misbut for now i need to go eat turkey sammiches
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04:20.01vid`oh wow
04:20.03vid`this guy has a lot of mods
04:20.30CyrezHunter's Helper is a good one if you're a, you know, Hunter. :)
04:22.12xyuyeah he does have some usefull stuff
04:22.24xyui'd like to try out that reagentcost
04:22.36xyui never know what my most profitable or cheapest to skill from item is
04:22.36vid`i like the site too
04:22.37vid`hehe
04:22.40xyuin tailoring / engineering
04:27.51CIA-1703pprovost * r26453 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc): FuBar_PoisonFu: Added support for hiding the built-in TemporaryEnchantFrame or the Buffalo equivalent.
04:28.17PProvostAnd now I don't care who is maintaining Buffalo. :)
04:29.48break19hmm.. anyone know a good addon to add tooltips to locked items, saying the level of LP minimum to open?
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04:36.05PogoTribalckknight you here?
04:36.18PogoTribalI just got the AceComm message
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04:43.14PogoTribalAceComm-2.0-26309 (Ace2):2585: Usage: SendChatMessage(text [,type] [,language] [,targetPlayer])
04:43.37tjsG'day, I've seen a couple of vids recently with casting bars (for yourself, the enemy, etc) and health/mana bars that are nice and big and moveable (not ones attached to your portrait)
04:43.55tjscan anyone give me some advice on selecting a good one? im an oomkin
04:44.44PProvostGood idea break19 might have to do one of those...
04:45.34PogoTribaltjs: ag_UnitFrames has nice moveable frames
04:45.46PogoTribalAs for castbars, you have a big selection to choose from.
04:45.54CIA-1703next96 * r26454 10Cartographer_Import/Import.lua:
04:45.54CIA-17Cartographer_Import :
04:45.54CIA-17- Update locale koKR
04:45.58PogoTribalag_UF will show you a castbar on the current target.
04:46.15tjswhat about your own cast bar?
04:46.18PogoTribalAntagonist will give you countdown bars for enemies in the area that might be casting or using a buff.
04:46.32PogoTribalThere's several self cast bars.
04:46.48PogoTribaloCB is one although it doesn't have a GUI to configure it.
04:46.55Funkeh`aguf has a self cast bar
04:47.08tjscool :)
04:47.45tjscurse-gaming doesnt know ag_UF
04:47.45xyuantagonist is a large addon though.  i think it uses more memory than all of my cartographer addons heh
04:48.32tjsahh nm
04:48.34tjsfound it
04:49.43Funkeh`it can be found on the wowace files section
04:50.08tjsit lists 'burning crusade compatability' on its todo list
04:50.16tjsis that out of date info?
04:50.24Funkeh`yes
04:50.25Funkeh`by far
04:50.28tjscool :)
04:50.29Funkeh`its fully compatible with tbc
04:50.32tjsI'll give it a go
04:50.37tjs(at work atm)
04:50.44tjswill try it tonight :)
04:50.47Funkeh`im not sure how old the curse version is fyi
04:50.55Funkeh`might not even have the castbar
04:51.02tjsah
04:53.39CIA-1703next96 * r26455 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua:
04:53.39CIA-17Cartographer_Noteshare :
04:53.40CIA-17- Update locale koKR
04:54.51vid`break19
04:54.56vid`thank you for telling me about that mod :)
04:55.09vid`my cooldown count is working in autobar now too heh
04:55.14vid`must've been something with auctioneer
04:55.15vid`weird
04:55.27break19vid`: heh
04:57.25PogoTribalyeah I wouldn't get the curse-gaming one
04:57.28PogoTribalsomeone link him the updater
04:57.40Funkeh`you do it
04:57.52steev~wau
04:58.02PogoTribalI don't remember the site
04:58.06Funkeh`steev wins the cookie!
04:58.06xyu./topic #woweace
04:58.09steevsearch for wowace on sourceforge.net
04:58.31xyuits in the topic o_O
04:58.45Funkeh`sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater
04:59.56break19~wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - It is used to update all your ACE and ACE2 AddOns automatically.
04:59.58purlokay, break19
05:00.02break19~wau
05:00.04purlmethinks wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - It is used to update all your ACE and ACE2 AddOns automatically.
05:00.15break19there ya go
05:01.24Funkeh`its ace not ACE, fix!
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05:03.39xyuACE is the place!
05:03.43xyusays john madden
05:05.54Ziconbreak19: ckknight is going to kill you if he sees that.
05:07.32Funkeh`i said so already have you changed it?
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05:10.46ThorgardAnyone got a list of the spell coefficients?
05:20.47break19zicon and why might that be
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05:21.13Ziconbreak19: What funkeh` said.
05:21.42break19so change it lol
05:21.56Funkeh`you change it you made it ffs
05:22.00break19heh
05:22.15sergiowhat the hell is the point of updating trackerfu if it won'tw ork
05:22.38break19~wau is WowAceUpdate, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
05:22.39purl...but wau is already something else...
05:23.00break19~wau
05:23.02purlfrom memory, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - It is used to update all your ACE and ACE2 AddOns automatically.
05:23.08Funkeh`lol
05:23.13break19purl, no wau is WowAceUpdate, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
05:23.14purlokay, break19
05:23.18break19~wau
05:23.19purlwau is, like, WowAceUpdate, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily.
05:23.23break19there ya go
05:23.28Funkeh`thank you
05:24.00break19~spam Funkeh`
05:24.01purlACTION subscribes Funkeh` to every possible mailing list he can find on the 'net AND arranges for Funkeh` to get at least 50 snail mail spams a day
05:24.07break19:P
05:24.28Funkeh`bad bot
05:24.31break19heh
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05:25.09tjsis the author of bartender3 around?
05:28.24break19he's off with the author of Waitress3 at the moment
05:28.37tjsheh :)
05:28.47Mikmatjs: try this: ' nevcairiel: hi i got something for you '
05:29.09break19heh
05:29.23Mikmathen bitchslap him with your penis
05:29.33Mikmathat'll make him wake up
05:29.34tjsnevcairiel: G'day, quick q about bartender3
05:29.55Mikmai can answer you already two answers: no, and cba
05:30.55tjsI have everything on one bar now, 150% size, across the bottom, I use all the modifier options (shift, alt, ctrl) as well as the shapeshift pages to fit everything I need into my current context its great
05:31.01Funkeh`hahaha Mikma
05:31.05Funkeh`quality
05:31.35tjsthis works great, except when moving between forms while holding a modifier key
05:32.47tjsif a form change happens that should usually change the default bar, but you are holding down a manual modifier (say shift) then the page displayed by the manual modifier should stay until the key is released
05:34.43break19heh.. book never written time, "The Life of a Boozehound" by Al Keyes
05:34.46tjsatm I have shift+1,2,3,4 as my various forms, and shift+5,6,7,8 as my heals, if I'm in cat form and need to heal I shift+2 (catform button) to go back to caster, then want to shift+5 to heal myself, I cant do this holding shift the whole time, I have to let it go, because the form change switches the bar (when I'm holding shift it should just stay)
05:35.08tjsit makes an elegant key sequence into an awkward one
05:35.29KarlThePaganckknight, still getting shared notes for modules I don't have installed
05:36.11break19"Fury of Rainstorms" by Catherine "Kat" Dogg
05:38.49break19bah.. ya'll no fun.. ima go to bed. :p
05:38.51break19nite
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05:48.13tjsnevcairiel: #336
05:48.20tjsI added a ticket for you :)
05:48.29tjswowace needs a trac-irc bot
05:48.35tjs#twisted has a nice one
05:48.41tjsyou should ask us for it :)
05:48.42RaydenUnicyclistoh for submitting tickets?
05:48.49tjsannouncing changes etc
05:48.53RaydenUnicyclistcause i think it has one to let you know about updates...
05:49.00tjsah
05:49.31tjswould be fairly easy to make one that creates tickets
05:49.40RaydenUnicyclistyeah
05:49.42tjsI wrote some software to talk to trac
05:49.52tjsjust using the trac xmlrpc plugin
05:49.57RaydenUnicyclistyou can definately do it
05:50.07RaydenUnicyclistthere are bots that can create pastie pages for you
05:56.14stavmarwhat is the address to the SVN?
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06:06.23NightHawkTheSaneokay, the botanica is an excercise in masochism. ><
06:07.20odinrikoIs there a mod that allows me to see what trade recipes an alt has/needs?
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06:09.32ZealotOnAStickodinriko: check out Recipe Book, by Ayradyss.  Should be on WoWInterface.
06:10.45KarlThePaganah crap I see my problem.. .it's "Scribe"
06:19.05sergiocleared the botanica last night
06:19.09sergioit was pretty fun
06:19.22sergioi wish i had done my quest chains earlier
06:21.41odinrikothanks I will do that
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06:24.09NightHawkTheSaneits fun, dont get me wrong, but with a feral druid main healing, another feral druid who likes to taunt mobs off me, and no solid CC, it's extremely painful
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06:28.05CIA-17Babble-2.2:
06:28.05CIA-17- Updated quests (3814)
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06:54.35sylvanaarZealotOnAStick did you need something
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06:58.44stavmarSo for cartographer that is now packaged do we need to download the seperate modules still or does the package contain everything?
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07:02.07neeneestavmar: Check the description on the site hosting the packaged version, or check the contents of the zipfile for what it contains
07:02.53CIA-1703funkydude * r26457 10BigWigs/Other/Kazzak.lua: BigWigs: Other: updated Kazzak mod a little
07:03.50CIA-1703zuno * r26458 10UnitActionBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
07:03.50CIA-17UnitActionBars:
07:03.50CIA-17- fix for range checking spells
07:03.50CIA-17- fix for retaining item icon and tooltip when item no longer in inventory (bag or equipped)
07:03.54stavmarneenee: i use the WAU and this was the first time i saw the packaged version, but all the other modules were still there?
07:03.59ckknighthey all, back
07:04.07ckknightwent to a foreign exchange conference
07:04.16ckknightKodewulf: Babble-Quest?
07:04.38Funkeh`howd it go ck?
07:04.52ckknightlong
07:05.01ckknightand I'm not sure the forex market is too great a deal
07:05.06ckknighteveryone is nickle-and-diming each other
07:05.20ckknightas well as it being much too fast-paced for my liking
07:05.23Funkeh`yeah ck, thats why i added the optional lod, getting somewhat anoyed wiht all the extra crap im loading wiht babble :p
07:05.26ckknightI'm not fond of buying and selling within an hour
07:05.36Funkeh`hehe
07:06.01Funkeh`must have been a new experience though :p
07:06.04stavmarckknight: i had a question and am sorry to bother you about it?
07:06.12ckknightyou better be sorry
07:06.14ckknightgrr
07:06.16stavmarlol
07:06.29ckknight...
07:06.32ckknightgo ahead
07:06.43stavmarthe tooltips in FuBar are faded out and not selectable? Any thoughts as to what may be causing this?
07:07.27stavmarIs it another mod possibly? One of my Fubar settings?
07:08.11ckknightfaded out?
07:08.16stavmarSome of the tooltips, the large ones that go over more than half the screen actually have visual and normal looking text
07:09.28stavmartowards the bottom but the top of the tooltip is black almost and not selectable
07:09.50ckknighthow would I reproduce?
07:11.00stavmarI am not sure it is happening all the time now, Sometimes it has occurred right after logging on and sometimes it happens a few minutes later. you can still see teh tooltip it is just very dim and nothing is selectable
07:11.07neeneestavmar: Ah, I think the packaged version has most, if not all of what you need. I do not use Cartographer myself though
07:11.43stavmarneenee: I was going to ask ckknight that question in a bit. Thank you.
07:12.26neenee:)
07:12.58stavmarckknight: It is almost as if the tooltip is long enough the bottom of it will present as it always has in the past.
07:15.40ckknightstavmar: which tooltip?
07:15.57ckknightbtw, is it like this: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4391.new;topicseen#new
07:16.33stavmarAll of them are having the problem, I am going to show you the screenshot i have and yes the way they describe it is exactly what i am experienceing
07:20.50stavmarHere is a shot of what I am experiencing at login, just in the bank: http://incite-guild.org/forum/images/stavmar/FuBar%20Tooltip.jpg
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07:21.27stavmarit is the questFu tooltip but they are all doing it.
07:21.31Fisker-:O!
07:21.51Fisker-that's a first
07:21.57Fisker-now it considers cartographer a package :o
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07:23.31Funkeh`nn folks
07:24.54ckknightstavmar: and the black stuff renders the stuff below it unclickable?
07:25.07ckknights/below/underneath
07:25.27Fisker-omg
07:25.32Fisker-this connection delivers
07:25.32ckknighthrm?
07:25.37Fisker-3 torrents at 200kB/s
07:25.42Fisker-my connection is 4Mbit :P
07:25.49Fisker-so 600kB/s != 4Mbit/s :P
07:25.58stavmarckknight: that is correct not selectable at all, but the lit items are as in guildFu
07:26.20ckknightstavmar: okay, hover over the black area and type /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
07:28.20stavmarok hold on
07:28.36stavmarloggin in...
07:29.45stavmarckknight: well after i logged back in all seems normal again? Very strange
07:29.53ckknightnext time
07:30.30stavmarwill do
07:31.21vid`stavmar: a few times ive noticed i cant click anything on left side of my screen
07:31.32vid`as if an invisible window was over everything
07:31.48vid`like i was in a group the other day and i couldnt click on 2 people in my group to decurse em
07:31.55vid`and then i noticed i couldnt even target em
07:32.00vid`reloaded ui and it was fine all day after
07:32.08vid`no idea tho
07:33.11stavmarvid`: that exact thing happened with my agUF party fram on teh left hand side of my screen, I could not select anyone, then a /rl and it was all good.
07:36.17vid`also if you mouse ove ra mob
07:36.21vid`in that area, no tooltips
07:36.26vid`and cant click on npc, etc
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07:36.45vid`but i dont have any issues with my fubar tooltips :)
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07:52.57sergiockknight: would you think about splitting the instance map menu into outland and azeroth?
07:53.14ckknightor by level
07:53.17ckknightor something
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07:54.37ckknightsergio: or perhaps it could be better if the instances were part of the zones
07:54.37ckknightor something
07:54.37ckknightnot sure
07:55.44Fisker-Well you could categorize the winged dungeons :o
07:56.08sergiolevel would work out in theory
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07:56.24sergioin fact I liked looking stuff up by level when I went from 60-70
07:57.11sergioonly exception is the heroic mode stuff but it's not really a good reason not to
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08:01.46CIA-1703adirelle 07filters * r26459 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/ (Cartographer_Quests.toc addon.lua):
08:01.46CIA-17Cartographer_Quests:
08:01.46CIA-17- made LoD,
08:01.46CIA-17- map should be properly refreshed on quest status changes.
08:09.05PogoTribalmana tombs can suck my ass
08:09.32PogoTribalck you here?
08:09.37PogoTribalI got the AceComm error
08:09.42ckknightokay
08:09.52PogoTribalAceComm-2.0-26309 (Ace2):2585: Usage: SendChatMessage(text [,type] [,language] [,targetPlayer])
08:10.00ckknight:-(
08:10.08PogoTribalno good?
08:10.14ckknightknow how to reproduce it?
08:10.19PogoTribalor is it Colamachine?
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08:10.42PogoTribalyeah, I leave the colamachine channel, then when I find something new to vendor that hasn't had a price check, I get the error
08:10.51PogoTribalthe umm
08:11.00ckknighthrm...
08:11.09PogoTriballootdatasync channel or something like that
08:11.24PogoTribalit's a channel that every character joins when entering the game that spams the hell out of my chat, so I leave it
08:11.40PogoTribaldid you write colamachine?
08:11.59PogoTribalsomeone needs to be notified, I can't be the only one with this problem
08:12.35CIA-1703nargiddley 07alpha * r26460 10WaterfallLib/WaterfallLib/Waterfall-0.1/Waterfall-0.1.lua: WaterfallLib: Basic AceOptions Table support
08:12.52CIA-1703nargiddley * r26461 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: More waterfall config pages done
08:16.42anenigmaI can't see WaterfallLib on http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ ?  We still having sync issues
08:16.57Nargiddleyits not on the trunk, not ready for general use yet
08:17.11Nargiddleybranches if you want to test it
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08:17.14anenigmaOh, alpha.  Missed that :)
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08:58.48Fisker-Nargiddley :o?
08:58.58Fisker-will waterfall automatically support anything?
08:59.37Nargiddleyi'm running most of the sections straight off my ace options table, needs more work to support it fully
09:00.22Nargiddleyisnt completely automatic, but not hard at all
09:00.55Fisker-ok
09:04.16Fisker-any paladins with healing experience here?
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09:20.18ZealotOnAStickGah.
09:20.35ZealotOnAStickI understand why it was done, but I don't really like Cartographer being like 11 distinct LoD addons now.
09:20.50ZealotOnAStickand Sylvanaar never responded to me about an option in WAU to NOT make it that way automatically.
09:23.07tlundwhere can i make feature-requests for wowaceupdater? any of the developers on this channel?
09:23.40ZealotOnASticktry #wau
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09:32.43[Ammo]WAU should be made a bit smarter and accept: WayPoints Cartographer_WayPoints in thefileelist
09:32.47[Ammo]so it knows how to rename
09:33.02[Ammo]the carto folder structure looks like a piece of shit dragged through a funnel atm
09:33.35[Ammo]it would also enable me to support it for BigWigs and ORA2
09:33.51[Ammo]becuase I don't intend to change the folder names :)
09:34.15Nargiddleyshould look for the name of the toc for sub addons
09:35.17[Ammo]well I rename my .tocs as well :p
09:35.23[Ammo]it should be smarter
09:35.32[Ammo]not force people into uglyness
09:35.38Nargiddleyyer
09:36.20Chosimornin
09:36.31[Ammo]who's the author anyway?
09:36.47Chosiwhere can i report bugs?
09:36.53Chosisimple question :)
09:37.22Chosiis there something like a bugtraq for several addons?
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09:39.15sylvanaarnegative on renaming, id prefer not to do that
09:39.37[Ammo]not even if the author supplies the correct fileelist?
09:39.43nee|workHm. Does anyone here have the problem of WoW running fine for hours, but then having their framrate dropping to be unplayable? For some reason, when this happens, setting the Terrain Distance to around 50% makes it run smooth again. When this problem occurs, I can see 'through' the landscape and I see a purple texture. The problem seems to be caused by the ground and everything else becoming 100% transparent and everything, e
09:39.45[Ammo]because now it's so bloody ugly
09:39.49[Ammo]I have a rename script myself for carto atm
09:39.54[Ammo]to make the files at least readable
09:40.02nee|work(apologies for the long message).
09:40.03[Wobin]nee|work: yeah
09:40.04[Wobin]I did
09:40.12[Ammo]Cartographer_ before every single subfolder is fugly
09:40.16[Wobin]I updated my graphics driver though
09:40.17Chosinee|work: yup
09:40.29[Wobin]and set the UIAccell to 0
09:40.40nee|workupdating it did not help here. I'm using 93.71 - latest official drivers and I trued UIAccel 2
09:40.49nee|work*tried
09:40.59[Wobin]set it to 0
09:41.05[Wobin]I've not had problems since then
09:41.08Chosiit seems like wow is running around and collecting crap from my hd
09:41.12[Wobin]aside from normal eccentricities
09:41.19[Wobin]oh and a defrag
09:41.22[Wobin]I did a huge defrag
09:41.31Chosiit seems more like a hdd problem. no graphics issue
09:41.31[Wobin]50% of my hd was fragmented =P
09:41.56nee|workChosi - But when I decrease the terrain distance, to 50% - 60% does not seem far enough, there's radical change between 50 and 60% (60-ish), the problem is gone
09:42.00Chosimaybe a 10 gig swapfile could do
09:42.00Chosi;D
09:42.16nee|workNo hdd problem here, no swapfile problem here, all defragged and no large other processes running
09:42.17Chosii reduced terrain distance aswell
09:42.36Chosiwell and i can play at high framerates for a bit longer
09:42.38nee|workFor me it's not a spec problem. It only happens with WoW.
09:42.42Chosiat some point it starts cracking up again
09:42.51nee|workhm
09:42.59nee|workThe only real fix at the moment, though temporary, is a reboot
09:43.02Chosidunno if it's caused by alt tabbing too much
09:43.03dalvarezhrm
09:43.15dalvarezanyone seen Kaelten?
09:43.26nee|workI'll try UIAccel 0 when I get home though, but I'll only find out if that helps with time
09:43.32nee|work[Wobin]: Are there drawbacks to UIAccel 0?
09:43.40nee|worker, UIFaster that is
09:43.50[Wobin]I'm not sure what it did originally, so I can't say =)
09:44.11Chosinee: when your fps are low and you try to end wow. does it take ages too?
09:44.17Chosithat's what it does here
09:44.34ZealotOnAStickI use UIFaster 3 and it seems quite nice.
09:45.13ChosiSET UIFaster "3" to the config.wtf?
09:45.53Chosior where do i have to place it?
09:46.44ChosiZealotOnAStick?
09:46.53tlundChosi: yes.
09:46.56Chosithanks
09:47.14[Wobin]Well
09:47.22[Wobin]ZealotOnAStick, you don't have problems normally =P
09:47.28[Wobin]thus full accell is fine
09:47.29nee|workChosi: When this happens, I am only sometimes able to close it. At other times, my desktop has reverted to 640x480 or even 320x240 with 16 colors, forcing me to reboot.
09:47.50nee|workChosi: And Set UIFaster "3" is the default setting.
09:47.58nee|worktry 'SET UIFaster "0"'
09:48.52Chosiwell i didn't have any uifaster setting in the config
09:48.59Chosiso it's set to 3 by default?
09:49.01nee|work3 is the default setting
09:49.02nee|workYes
09:49.18nee|workIf you set nothing manually, that's what it's on.
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09:50.02nee|workSo what ZealotOnAStick is doing doesn't give him any benefit over default settings, even though it might seem so as he says 'it seems quite nice' :P
09:50.23Chosiomg it was loading the game pretty much faster with 0
09:50.34nee|workIt is? Interesting.
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09:50.52nee|workI'll have to try it at home. I hope there are no humongous drawbacks
09:50.56Industrialnee|work: do you my any chance play hl1:tfc ?
09:50.59Industrialby&\*
09:51.09nee|workIndustrial: Nope
09:51.15Industrialk
09:51.33nee|workI did play ETF though
09:51.57Chosiwhat was the name of the addon measuring the time for initialization?
09:52.04nee|workhm. Warmup I think
09:52.09Industrialk, know someone from hl1:tfc with the nick nee
09:52.43nee|workAh. Well, my normal nick is 'neenee' in games.
09:52.47nee|workor Naenee in fantasy games
09:52.59Chosiwhy is your name nono? :>
09:53.11nee|work:)
09:53.14nee|workIt's a long story
09:53.22Chosikk
09:53.46CIA-1703turbopasqual * r26462 10TradeStop/TradeStop.lua:
09:53.46CIA-17TradeStop:
09:53.46CIA-17- removed old code
09:53.46CIA-17- changed OnClick functionality
09:54.04nee|workIt has to do with me not agreeing with my own ideas, hence dismissing them, often out loud. After a while some friends gave me a nickname, and I kept part of that as my online nickname.
09:54.24nee|workBut that was long ago and now I know my ideas are useful and appreciated :)
09:55.04nee|workNot all though.. I never managed to get that boneless-chicken franchise off the ground..
09:55.25nee|workYou can get Warmup here: http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/wiki/Warmup
09:55.32nee|workFollow the WowI link
09:55.57Chosilongest addon Cartographer_Hotspot
09:55.57Chosi:D
09:56.01Chosioh dear
09:56.03nee|workhey!
09:56.04nee|workWoops
09:56.08nee|workI found someone with my problem
09:56.22Chositell me if he's got any useful hints
09:56.41nee|work'Even with SET UIFaster “2” the buildings and other objects are transparent or missing.'
09:56.42nee|workI shall
09:56.52nee|work'With SET UIFaster “0" nothing is improved.' :
09:56.56Chosi:\
09:56.57nee|workBut he is using an ATI card
09:57.02Chosihe should burn in hell
09:57.10nee|workAnd his issue seems to exist all the time. I think his issue is a different one.
09:57.19ZealotOnAStickwhat video driver revision is this person using?
09:57.25nee|workAnd he's running the game using Wine
09:57.30Chosilol
09:57.38Chosion a linux vmware server
09:57.43nee|workNo no, not vmware
09:57.48Chosion a amd k6/2 333mhz
09:57.51Chosi*an
09:57.54nee|workThat wouldn't work as vmware has no 3D hardware acceleration
09:57.56Chosiwit 8 megs of ram
09:58.34nee|workThere's no info on which driver he is using.
09:58.44Chosinee|work: anyways i thought this problem occurs if i'm zoning too much
09:58.49Chosiand some cache is full
09:58.54nee|workHm
09:59.31nee|workI doubt that is the case for me. It just happens randomly after some time, not right after zoning
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10:00.05Chosilet's compare specs
10:00.21Chosiget to #specsblabla
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10:18.21Chosidoes hellbot come here ocassionally?
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10:23.00CIA-1703phyber * r26463 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
10:23.00CIA-17XPBarNone:
10:23.00CIA-17- Changed some GetText function names slightly.
10:23.00CIA-17- Changed SetTexture function so that surface:Fetch() is only called once.
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10:36.23CIA-1703nymbia * r26464 10GrindStatus/modules/ (OutlandFaction.lua OutlandNeutral.lua OutlandShattrath.lua):
10:36.23CIA-17GrindStatus:
10:36.23CIA-17- Updated deDE
10:36.23CIA-17- Fixed turnins for Aldor and Scryer.
10:36.37CIA-1703adirelle 07filters * r26465 10Cartographer_Quests/Cartographer_Quests/ (Cartographer_Quests.toc addon.lua):
10:36.37CIA-17Cartographer_Quests: (DRYCODE)
10:36.37CIA-17- included "givers" registering from trunk,
10:36.37CIA-17- sanitized filter settings (I hope),
10:36.39CIA-17- should work properly when Cartographer_Notes is LoD,
10:36.41CIA-17- better handling of quest completion.
10:37.15todd`I have an XPBarNone feature request: how about being able to shift+click or alt click to input your xp or reputation into your chat box?
10:44.59CIA-1703rabbit * r26466 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Add some missing bosses to Sethekk Halls, Arcatraz, The Eye and Zul'Aman.
10:45.19Fisker-eh?
10:45.21Fisker-Zul'Aman?
10:45.48vhaarrIt's not implemented yet.
10:45.51Fisker-i know
10:46.08Fisker-that's my point btw :P
10:47.20vhaarrApparently Warlord Jin'Zakk is the boss in Zul'Aman, so why not add him sooner rather than later.
10:47.57Fisker-ok :P
10:49.02[Ammo]hehe
10:50.57[Ammo]I did not break durability. I think vhaarr broke it :p
10:51.12[Ammo]since I changed nothing for ages and it worked for ages :)
10:51.42[Ammo]besides, I'm working on something else atm
10:52.11Fisker-well not that anyways :P
10:52.17nee|workSo you mean that during the time you did not change anything, it worked fine? Doesn't that imply that your changes... :P
10:52.26Fisker-Just sometimes i got these "Water Elemental has joined the group" messages O_o
10:52.46nee|workFisker-: Cool :) Water Elementals want to be cared for too :)
10:53.11nee|workWater Elemental is at low health!
10:53.26Fisker-grr
10:53.27nee|workWater Elemental cries out about having low mana!
10:54.17[Ammo]haha
10:54.55[Ammo]is this valid: L["Low on Shards! %d left!"]:format( soulshardcount ) ?
10:55.29CIA-1703rabbit * r26467 10oRA2/Leader/Durability.lua: oRA2: Leader/Durability: Bugfix.
10:56.51vhaarr:P
10:57.02Fisker-btw what are you coding?
10:57.04Chosiouch
10:57.08nee|work;)
10:57.15nee|workCheck the specsblabla channel
10:57.59[Ammo]I'm coding Necronomicon2
10:58.08winkillernerf locks
10:58.09[Ammo]fleshing out the ideas I have had for ages
10:58.26nee|workThe idea for three-headed squirrels?!
10:58.28nee|workCool!
10:58.34nee|workSend me one as soon as you're done :)
10:58.51[Ammo]haha
10:59.02[Ammo]it's 2500 lines of drycoding atm
10:59.07[Ammo]I don't think it works :)
10:59.28nee|workWell, have fun debugging :)
11:00.05[Ammo]I will
11:00.10[Ammo]I'll just finish it all
11:00.18[Ammo]and then load it in WoW :p
11:04.20ZealotOnAStickOoh.  I'll look forward to it with some high hopes.
11:04.39ZealotOnAStickI'm still using ShardAce right now, as it's at least mostly functional and saves me some buttons, but it leaves a bit to be desired.
11:04.51ZealotOnAStickI really most wish someone would redo Sprocket.  :/
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11:05.28[Ammo]hehe
11:05.34[Ammo]well I'm not going for the circular layout
11:05.35[Ammo]anymore
11:05.45[Ammo]I'm going for a seperate buttons style
11:05.47[Ammo]it's modular too
11:06.06[Ammo]and way more efficient than the spellbookscanning frameguzzling Acolyte :p
11:07.58ZealotOnAStickI won't miss the circular layout, as I was never fond of it anyway.
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11:08.49ZealotOnAStickSprocket I liked, but it was more on functionality and configurabibility than the actual circular nature (just not sure how the radial menu behaviour would work as well in any other shape/form, though)
11:09.09winkillerI hate that circular stuff
11:10.43[Ammo]the biggest hurdle I have to take now is to get the SecureActionButtonTemplate stuff implemented
11:10.53[Ammo]the rest I've converted from old Necronomicon already
11:10.57[Ammo]apart from spelltimers
11:11.01[Ammo]won't implement those
11:11.45[Ammo]chronometer ftw
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11:12.55ZealotOnAStickI use Chrono on every char but my lock . . .  I prefer the icon format with the raid icon identification, etc.
11:14.52CIA-1703rabbit * r26469 10CBRipoff/core/cbripoff.lua: CBRipoff: Restore the Blizzard casting bars OnDisable.
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11:19.48[Wobin]So
11:20.01[Wobin]Advantages of using Metrognome-2.0 against AceEvent?
11:21.59Thrae[Wobin]: Only if you're not using AceEvent already, and especially if you're not using AceOO.
11:22.29CIA-1703toadkiller * r26470 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua:
11:22.29CIA-17PeriodicTable-3.0
11:22.30CIA-17-Re Fix Tradeskill.Tool.Fishing.Lure
11:22.39[Wobin]cause PlayerRatings uses it
11:22.46[Wobin]and I can't see why not to use AceEvent
11:24.12ThraeWhynot'ing can get you into a whole lot of trouble, as what's included in a lib isn't necessarily what is exactly -you- want.
11:25.33[Wobin]I guess I feel it's better to use the inbuilt functionality in the core Ace library than Metrognome
11:25.33ThraeDongleUtils from Dongle includes a very, very tiny version of Metrognome, but Dongle is very low-level.
11:25.35ThraeIt all depends on how much of Ace2 you use.
11:25.40[Wobin]Not Metrognome-2.0
11:25.45nee|workWhat is Dongle?
11:25.46[Wobin]which is at base an Ace2 Library
11:25.58ThraeRight.
11:26.03Thrae~dongle
11:26.06purl[dongle] An integrated library w/ stub where no revisions are suppose to be made upon a release version. The library's goal is to provide a design as lightweight as possible with functionality that all authors would use in a typical addon, without forcing many conventions.
11:26.15Fisker-Dongle is some addon cladhaire made when he got his balls cut off by ckknight
11:26.17[Wobin]Metrognome-2.0 was done before AceEvent added in the timing stuff
11:26.32nee|workhm
11:26.46ThraeYeah, there's not too much use for Metrognome-2.0 anymore, especially with DongleUtils.
11:27.12Thraepurl, no dongle is An integrated library w/ stub where no revisions are suppose to be made upon a release version. The library's goal is to provide a design as lightweight as possible with functionality that all authors would use in a typical addon, without forcing many conventions
11:27.14purlokay, Thrae
11:27.17ThraeDammit
11:27.39ckknight?
11:27.41sylvanaarso what is dongle?
11:27.58Thraepurl, no dongle is An integrated library w/ stub where no revisions are suppose to be made upon a release version. The library's goal is to provide a design as lightweight as possible with functionality that all authors would use in a typical addon, without forcing many conventions. Whenever the question arises "why not", Dongle asks "why so?"
11:27.59purlThrae: okay
11:28.17ckknightsylvanaar: it's a small framework for addons
11:28.19ckknightbasically
11:29.26ckknightregarding AceEvent vs. Metrognome, for OnUpdate stuff, they both use the same algorithm, but AceEvent uses a few hacks to be slightly faster. You likely won't notice, though.
11:29.53[Ammo]if you're using AceEvent already for events Metrognome isn't really needed
11:30.15Thraepurl, no dongle is An integrated library stub where no revisions are suppose to be made upon a release version. The library's goal is to provide a design as lightweight as possible with functionality that all authors would use in a typical addon (IE, an addon framework), without forcing many conventions. Whenever the question arises "why not", Dongle asks "why so?"
11:30.17purlThrae: okay
11:30.28ThraeOops, that was suppose to be /msg
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11:30.47ThraeSorry, I'll stop spamming with my OCD.
11:31.05ckknightalso, wrt dongle, I asked one of the authors why they made it and he said that he believed that authors should put more code into their addons instead of depending on the core libraries for every little thing. When I asked what he would take out of Ace2 to allay this, he said he didn't know
11:31.11ckknightso I find that disheartening.
11:32.15ckknightAce2 is a pretty good set of core libraries, it's quite efficient, it uses a nice OO architecture, and it's quite modular (in that you don't need every library for the functionality of just one of them)
11:32.26phybertodd`: that feature already exists.
11:32.47phybertodd`: shift+click = put whatever text is currently displayed by XPBarNone -> chatbox.
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11:35.41sylvanaarthe author just wanted to make his own
11:36.38ckknightthat's what I've gathered
11:37.39sylvanaarme shrugs
11:38.01sylvanaarme also forgot the slash
11:38.45Adirelle|worksylvanaar: any plan to fix that "general channels always comes back to chatframe1" annoying bug ? (it's not Prat-related, but I'll love you if you find a way to fix it in Prat)
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11:40.11Thraeckknight: Dongle is a collaborative effort, just like Ace2. And also just like Ace2, there are the main contributors.
11:40.20sylvanaarmy whole guild is 70 and im 67...maybe when i am 70
11:40.26Adirelle|work:)
11:40.32ckknightI know, never said it wasn't
11:40.36Adirelle|workI understand
11:41.14sylvanaarim pretty emo about it, i hate being behind
11:41.29Adirelle|work"emo" ?
11:41.38Fisker-you have nothing to be emo about
11:41.40Fisker-i'm level 47
11:41.58[Ammo]we've got a 63 shaman in the guild, he's working hard on 70
11:42.06nee|workDoes anyone know the usable values for unitDrawDist?
11:42.46nee|workAdirelle|work: 'emo' is short for 'emotional'. Though many seem to use it as 'crybaby' on the official forums.
11:43.01Adirelle|worknee|work: thx
11:43.08nee|work:)
11:43.12Thraeckknight: On a different subject, have you looked at SupplyAndDemand?
11:43.42CIA-1703phyber * r26471 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
11:43.42CIA-17XPBarNone:
11:43.42CIA-17- Space a few 'set' functions out in the options table to make them easier to read.
11:43.42CIA-17- Comment a few things in the CreateXPBar() function.
11:43.42CIA-17- Fix some typos in comments.
11:43.47ckknightyes
11:45.30[Wobin]It's just using a repeating schedule
11:46.06ThraeMy module design will be something like SupplyAndDemand. There will be a stub which has a single instance, reacting to events for when the LoD modules should be loaded (if they are not already, as they can be by the addon themselves directly). This would be useful for the core module, where it might not be needed until you a group, or visit the Auction House, or open the World Map, etc.
11:46.31Thraes/will be/will include/
11:47.36ThraeFor more power over -when- an LoD module is loaded, you could also download my version of SupplyAndDemand, which gives an options menu for all registered modules.
11:48.11ThraeOtherwise, the module's set default in its metadata is used.
11:48.22[Wobin]can you just update S&D to do this?
11:49.25Thrae[Wobin]: SupplyAndDemand is really just a simple addon which loads LoD addons. You can optionally add Metadata for a default, and that's it.
11:49.36[Wobin]well yes.
11:49.55[Wobin]But can't you extend S&D to do what your additional s&d mod will do?
11:50.12[Wobin]Rather than having two
11:50.44ThraeI'm talking about a module framework, where you can take out "pieces" of an addon separated into modules, and each will act as their own LoD addon, dependant on the addon's core (and the core stub).
11:51.01Chosickknight, you there?
11:51.05ThraeIt's a far extension of SupplyAndDemand.
11:51.16Chosihow can i create a waypoint on the cartographer map and send it as waypoint to a mate?
11:51.50ThraeWell, it doesn't really have much to do with SupplyAndDemand, really. You could say it's far extension of SupplyAndDemand, but it's not. I originally got part of the idea from BigWigs and oRA.
11:52.00ThraeBut I'll be taking it a step further.
11:53.18ThraeAnyway, sleepy time.
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11:58.14CIA-1703ammo * r26472 10Necronomicon2/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Necronomicon2: import a big pile of drycode.
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12:01.35Fisker-Hey [Ammo] i'm getting lots of errors with that addon
12:01.40Fisker-Perhaps prat broke it?
12:03.36vhaarrPerhaps it's all drycode?
12:06.56Fisker-i'm certain prat must've broke it!
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12:14.43[Ammo]it's 100% drycode
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12:14.59[Ammo]just imported it because I already almost deleted too much :)
12:15.02doktoreashi to all
12:15.11doktoreasanyone using Prat knows how show also pet?
12:15.45[Ammo]Prat has nothing to do with pets
12:15.51[Ammo]if you mean agUF, enable them
12:17.04Chosihow can i create a waypoint on the cartographer map and send it as waypoint to a mate?
12:17.06Chosiagain :>
12:17.14doktoreasbut prat manage raid..
12:17.18doktoreaslol
12:17.21doktoreasi mean grid sorry
12:17.30doktoreas2 hours of sleep are not enough
12:17.48Ordogdoes somebody got IE7 here?
12:18.42CIA-1703ammo * r26473 10Necronomicon2/ (13 files in 3 dirs): Necronomicon2: keywords set
12:18.52Ordoghm i think you cant send the note including the fact it beeing a waypoint, just the note itself (correct me if im wrong)
12:18.56[Ammo]don't think Grid supports pets
12:19.01nee|workOrdog: I have it at work here
12:19.36doktoreas[Ammo]: thx
12:19.36Ordogyou tested sharing the note and its added at the recipient as beeing a waypoint?
12:19.37nee|workdoktoreas: There is no pet, nor target/focus-frame support in grid
12:19.53winkillerthere is no spoon
12:19.54doktoreasthank mates
12:20.10doktoreaslast question...Any nice missing buff mod?
12:20.11nee|workOrdog: I was replying to your IE7 question
12:20.30Fisker-i got it too
12:20.31Silviu-[Ammo] Necromicon 2 ?
12:20.41Ordogah ok ^^
12:20.53Ordogcan you please check http://www.invitel.de/invitelweb/refer.html and tell me how much cpu its consuming?
12:21.04nee|worksure
12:21.31nee|work0% after loading
12:21.55nee|workduring loading about 18% max
12:22.46nee|workIt loads quicker in opera though
12:22.49Ordogand while the fading is going on?`
12:22.50doktoreasi used fubar_cork
12:22.55nee|workfading?
12:22.59doktoreasbut don't like it...
12:23.07doktoreasany suggestion?
12:23.18Ordoguhm the pictures to the left are supposed to fade every 2 seconds
12:23.29Fisker-up to about 90% cpu usage on my dual core
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12:23.32nee|workOh that, 34 max I've seen
12:23.55Ordoghm looks like the IE renderer is as bad as i expected 8/
12:23.57nee|workThis is not a dual-core though, nor a very powerful machine
12:24.34nee|workThose logos are too small to make out all the text on them anyway, so I do not see them as being very useful
12:24.38winkilleryour script seems broken anyways
12:24.51Ordogits just a test :)
12:25.00winkillerif you hover the textlinks, it wreaks havoc
12:25.16Ordogwinkiller?
12:25.39Ordogthe according logo should be shown
12:25.41winkillerif you hover the textlinks, the images change very fast and still fade
12:25.48winkillerat least in FF
12:26.16Ordoguhm you mean when you hover a single link, not moving the mouse further the fading is still commencing?
12:26.19nee|workWorks fine in Opera
12:26.48winkillerlike.. <fade> -> onmouseover = <right image> =>onmouseout = <fade> => onmouseover = <right image>
12:27.04winkillerbut if you move your mouse on the right hand side, it looks fucked up
12:27.35Ordogwell ... thats what i was supposed to implement ^^
12:27.40winkillerlies, opera has the same
12:27.51winkilleryou should delay the fade 1 sec
12:27.53winkillerafter mouseout
12:27.56winkillerand all is fine
12:28.00vhaarrEven if you don't like the Firefox browser, you can't argue with the effect it has had on the web.
12:28.36winkillereffect? I don't have to gnaw on the edges of y table anymore :)
12:29.06Ordogthe firefox download manager is a real slowpoke for me
12:29.23winkillerwhatever, no time for flamewars - bbl, uni
12:29.24Ordogmight be a coincidence of my hardrives dying
12:29.40nee|workWell, hurray for it being popular then, but to each their own :)
12:29.41Ordogbaba darkwing
12:30.28winkilleryou fail at quoting, that was Schrecken, not Schatten ;)
12:30.41Ordogof rly? ^^
12:30.48Ordogs/of/oh
12:31.09Fisker-vhaarr the effect of prejudice, hate and so on isn't positive
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12:39.54CIA-1703rabbit * r26475 10Postal/Locales/deDE.lua: Postal: deDE update by to.be.
12:40.02Elkanonymbia?
12:40.17nymbiaElkano: sup
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12:40.30Dhragalo all
12:40.39Elkanoanyone told you about PT3's problem wrt Sunken Temple?
12:41.01nymbiaElkano: not as far as i know.  whats the problem?
12:41.57Elkanowell, in PT3 it's called "Sunken Temple", in game it's refered as "The Temple of Atal'Hakkar" or sth like that
12:42.39vhaarrThat's not entirely true, the LFG interface refers to it as Sunken Temple, I believe.
12:42.51ElkanoSo Blizzard failed again ;)
12:42.56vhaarrindeed :P
12:43.15nymbiahmm.. that it is..  not sure why i did that.. maybe for cartographer compatibility?  what's carto's instancemap call it?
12:43.47vhaarrThe Temple of Atal'Hakkar
12:44.21nymbiableh, i need to do some major sorting on the instanceloot stuff.. now that i know which area all these wings are in, lol
12:45.01nymbiabut.. tomorrow! since i need to be up in 4 hours!
12:45.05nymbianight guys
12:45.10Elkanobtw: the hammer is still not in the engeneering tools ;)
12:45.22nymbiahow dare it
12:45.25Elkanook, good night and nice dreams
12:45.32nee|worknite.
12:45.36nymbiai think its missing the jeweler's kit too
12:45.48nymbiai'll fix it tomorrow :)
12:46.36Ordoghm the temple of atal'hakkar might be taken wrong as beeing Zul'Gurub
12:48.06Ordogwith sunken temple i reference that swamp of sorrows instance
12:50.08nee|workoff to home *poof*
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12:58.17[Ammo]Silviu-: yeah, big pile of drycode atm without GUI or anything
12:58.55Silviu-[Ammo] looking forward for a more "stable" release
12:59.25[Ammo]Silviu-: the framework is fleshing out nicely
12:59.49JoshBorkewhatever happened to henge?
13:00.50[Ammo]JoshBorke: no idea, it just stopped being developped
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13:10.25Fisker-hoho
13:10.28Fisker-silly people
13:10.37Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ48K3XjnVA&eurl=
13:10.51Fisker-Don't they realize the cd doesn't matter? :o
13:11.57Fisker-They should've logged to his account, deleted all his characters and then spammed GM's until they banned him and closed his account
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13:17.31kenlyricFisker-: that's what one woman did to her cheating husband. She kicked him where it counts :)
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13:38.07neeneeChosi: Now to try out my modified config file ;)
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13:39.17CIA-1703Tristan * r26478 10Tankalyze/ (Core.lua Localization.lua):
13:39.17CIA-17Tankalyze:
13:39.17CIA-17- Should be quiet in BG's now if that option is checked
13:40.49CIA-1703shiftos * r26479 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-2.2: updated esES in Herbs and Spell
13:41.02GigaknightIf I mail something to someone who is about to transfer to a new realm, will the person receive the items on the new realm or do they have to wait to receive them before the transfer?
13:42.02CIA-1703shiftos * r26480 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: updated esES
13:42.02kenlyricmail doesn't transfer at all.
13:42.10kenlyricso they need to get everything out of their mailbox
13:42.43CIA-1703shiftos * r26481 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - updated esES
13:42.52Gigaknightok ta
13:43.29CIA-1703ammo * r26482 10Necronomicon2/Modules/ (9 files): Necronomicon2: theoretically I have a working shardcounter that functions as a drain soul button.. theoretically..
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13:47.47CIA-1703Tristan * r26484 10RightClick/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
13:47.47CIA-17RightClick: initial commmit
13:47.47CIA-17- RightClick Mailbox to extract Item from mail into backpack
13:50.27CIA-1703Tristan * r26485 10RightClick/:
13:50.27CIA-17RightClick:
13:50.27CIA-17- externals set
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13:57.35CIA-1703Tristan * r26486 10RightClick/Rightclick.lua:
13:57.35CIA-17RightClick:
13:57.35CIA-17- Added a Just In Case section in case the extract item stuff fails
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14:00.10Chosineenee: any changes?
14:00.10Chosi:>
14:02.08CIA-1703ammo * r26487 10Necronomicon2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Necronomicon2: still drycoded, only enable for warlock characters. fix some button stuff.
14:02.40GigaknightHow long does it take for mailed items to arrive ?
14:02.54[Ammo]1 hour approx
14:02.55Ordoguhm how do i set a waypoint in cart?
14:03.16Ordogi thought its reight click on a note but that only shows delete and send
14:03.24Ordogs/reight/right
14:03.54paranoidiupgrade it ...
14:03.56CIA-1703gorlum * r26488 10FuBar_MarkOfHonorFu/ (5 files):
14:03.56CIA-17FuBar_MarkOfHonorFu v20005.01 Release Date: 2007-01-22
14:03.56CIA-17+ First import. More info about versions - in readme.html
14:04.58CIA-1703Tristan * r26489 10RightClick/Rightclick.lua:
14:04.58CIA-17RightClick:
14:04.58CIA-17- Removed my TODO list as it was empty anyway
14:05.32snurre-hehe
14:05.35snurre-trying out Postal
14:05.46snurre-checked 10 mails and clicked Open
14:05.50snurre-received 3 items
14:05.52snurre-rest vanished
14:05.53snurre-gg
14:06.10snurre-just lost 7 stacks of stoneshield pots :(
14:06.26snurre-back to Gmail1
14:06.48vhaarrI think you're confused.
14:06.54vhaarrYou can't check more than 7 items at once.
14:07.10vhaarrThe 7 stacks you lost are just 1 page behind you.
14:07.11vhaarrOr should be.
14:07.15GigaknightWhat's a good Warlock name? :S
14:07.17snurre-no
14:07.23snurre-it went through all the checked items
14:07.32vhaarrhrm
14:07.32snurre-and only 3 items appeared in inventory, but all mails are gone
14:07.52vhaarrI hate the Postal code, but I guess I'll take a look.
14:08.06snurre-thank fucking god i didnt start with the flasks
14:08.23CIA-1703mok * r26490 10item2phpBB/ (7 files):
14:08.23CIA-17item2phpBB:
14:08.23CIA-17- added AceLocale-2.2
14:08.23CIA-17- added german localization
14:09.06vhaarrsnurre-: I'm sure that if you petition a GM with exactly what happened, you'll get it back.
14:09.12vhaarrsnurre-: Just remember to include the time it happened.
14:09.29[Ammo]I never lost items with Postal
14:09.46[Ammo]usually my mail was just in a different page or something
14:09.49Ordogjust did update
14:10.01snurre-vhaarr: nah, mails lost are not reimbursed
14:10.10Ordogthere is no gui way to create waypoints yet right?
14:10.21snurre-[Ammo]: i had 2 pages in mail, 10 with stoneshield pots, 4 with flasks
14:10.24hastesnurre doesn't know this stuff, true story!
14:10.38snurre-checked all the stoneshield pots and clicked the open button
14:10.52snurre-3 stacks of pots appeared in inventory, only flask mails left in inbox
14:10.57[Ammo]weird
14:11.07ChosiWTF
14:11.09hastetried relogging :D ?
14:11.13[Ammo]well there is no code in Postal to delete items
14:11.15Chosii just sinister striked for 1177 damage.
14:11.18snurre-yeah, to disable Postal
14:11.20[Ammo]so wonder how they were deleted
14:11.24hasteChosi: I did a 1700 yesterday
14:11.27vhaarr[Ammo]: Yes, there is, actually.
14:11.30Chosiwith daggers?
14:11.31[Ammo]oh hmm
14:11.31Chosi:P
14:11.31hasteon a mage :3
14:11.32kenlyricno way postal could destroy those items.
14:11.35hasteno, with swords
14:11.40Chosigm dirk here
14:11.40hasteor fist
14:11.52snurre-kenlyric: well, theyre gone and i surely didnt delete them
14:11.55hasteI'm hemo tho' Chosi
14:11.59kenlyricdeletion of items requires confirmation.
14:12.06[Ammo]kenlyric: not really :p
14:12.13[Ammo]I can destroy items without confirmation no problem
14:12.19snurre-kenlyric: only blue and above
14:12.25kenlyricwhy did they add confirmation in then?
14:12.26[Ammo]yeah only blue and above
14:12.33kenlyricno, that requires you to actually type "delete"
14:12.44kenlyricevery item in the default UI ask confirmation to delete.
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14:13.04snurre-i dont know wtf happened, but the mails *and* the items are gone
14:13.09[Ammo]no problem :p
14:13.21vhaarrsnurre-: Were they from the AH?
14:13.27snurre-nope, from my gbank char
14:13.36kenlyric[ammo] seems strange they wouldn't make that confirmation part of the api.
14:13.37vhaarrNo text, just items, right?
14:13.50snurre-nah, the massmail letter crap attached i think
14:13.56snurre-since i was using gmail
14:14.08yacoobremember the idea for trojan horse for wow I was describing you about? :D
14:14.18yacoobdeleting items...? :)
14:14.54snurre-oh well, theyre lost now and i just convinced myself that i might aswell just stay with an outdated addon as long as it works :p
14:16.38kenlyricctmail isn't outdated :)
14:17.04yacoobit only stinks that way?
14:17.20vhaarrsnurre-: While you were opening those mails, were you rearranging your bags?
14:17.25snurre-nope
14:17.25vhaarrsnurre-: That is, moving anything around.
14:17.31vhaarrsnurre-: Doing anything else?
14:17.33snurre-was making coffee
14:17.35vhaarrhrm
14:17.43vhaarrsnurre-: Got any addons that autostock items?
14:17.54vhaarrsnurre-: Or categorize them automatically.
14:18.03snurre-nope, only Baggins
14:18.09vhaarrhrm
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14:18.32vhaarrWell, I just discovered that Postal *can* delete your inbox items, if you get a special event while opening them.
14:18.45kenlyrico.O
14:18.47vhaarrgrennon: You fix? :P
14:18.56kenlyricwithout confirmation?
14:19.03vhaarrgrennon: Frankly, I'm quite intimidated by this code, it's not easy to read.
14:19.28[Ammo]kenlyric: yes without confirmation
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14:19.40kenlyricI guess it turns out that it's harder to code when you don't just copy and paste.
14:19.42yacoobaha!
14:19.50yacoobsomeone actually implemented my idea 8)
14:20.06[Ammo]that snippet I posted above I use to delete souls hards from non-shard bags
14:20.24yacoobvhaarr, what is this special event? :)
14:20.40vhaarrUNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED
14:20.57_neuron_[Ammo], you can use that to mouseover an item and destroy it if it's not in the right bag?
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14:21.09Fisker-Why is there a "Package_Cartographer" now?
14:21.16Nickenyfikenthat event is what he is looking for before deleting a mail right?
14:21.58CIA-1703kagaro * r26491 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: added a mthod to allow mods to add world nodes and drops to monitor
14:22.00[Ammo]_neuron_: yeah probably
14:22.05_neuron_gr8
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14:29.06CIA-1703shiftos * r26493 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer: Waypoints - esES fixed
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14:33.40Gnarfozyou know what Cartographer needs? Automatically create a note on the map when you die (i.e. location of your corpse) and then when you release spirit, do something like /way <corpse note> --> automatic corpse-waypointer :D
14:34.00yacoobGnarfoz, metamap did that.
14:34.03yacoob(poorly)
14:34.24kenlyricjust so you could see all the places you die?
14:34.39kenlyricand have about 200 corpse waypoints just at the Aldor lift?
14:34.40Gnarfozno. >_> delete the note after resurrection :>
14:34.43yacoobkenlyric, I think that 'navigation to the death site' is more important
14:34.44Chosiauto wp mode for the closest ore would be nice too
14:34.46krkaautotravel did that
14:34.48kenlyricwhat the heck would be the point of that?
14:35.02kenlyricconsidering the UI already tells you where your corpse is.
14:35.04Gnarfozerr... have an easier time getting to your corpse?
14:35.06yacoobbut it isn't really that good, because if something blocks your way, you need to work around it anyway
14:35.18GnarfozI'm talking about automatic usage of the waypoint system, kenlyric
14:35.20Gnarfoznot a minimap arrow
14:35.25kenlyricdo waypoints use you?
14:35.29kenlyricmove you
14:35.32Gnarfozin soviet russia, maybe
14:35.33Gnarfoz:p
14:35.35krkaautotravel showed the best path for going to your corpse
14:35.36Chosihow do i send waypoints to mates?
14:35.46Chosido i have to send them the notes and they gotta do the /way ... stuff?
14:35.54yacoobin soviet russia, waypoint eats you!
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14:36.16Gnarfozyacoob: still, if I'm in a new zone (happens a lot right now, with TBC), a pointer comes handy :>
14:36.17Adirelle|workhehe, just got my new office computer :D
14:37.00yacoobGnarfoz, pointer is already there ;)
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14:37.07kenlyricI guess maybe I don't know what waypoints offer. I thought it was just a way to mark your map.
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14:37.33Gnarfozkenlyric: creates a 3d arrow in the middle of the screen, dynamically rotating to keep pointing to your target
14:37.38krkacan anyone provide a reference to this "waypoints"
14:37.54thecookiekrka: OK!
14:37.57GnarfozI'll take a screenshot, lemme log in ;>
14:38.00kenlyricGnarfoz: ah, I see.
14:38.07krkalike a wiki, or a description page
14:38.16thecookiekrka: http://files.wowace.com/ - Cartographer stuff.
14:38.19kenlyricI'm a herbalist, so I'm used to navigating with the minimap :)
14:38.38Healthkrka: HEHE
14:38.47HealthI guess it's built in as it's not a module.
14:39.10HealthI don't think it draws lines as autotravel. Just sets a waypoint and shows it as an arrow at the minimap
14:39.18HealthI didn't test it tho, so what would I know!
14:39.18krkaoic
14:39.22HealthI type too much!
14:39.28krkayou know everything!
14:39.46krkamaybe i should fix autotravel to be a waypoint system instead
14:40.13HealthDidn't I tell you that before?
14:40.20krkayeah but i didnt listen!
14:40.28HealthAs always!
14:40.45HealthAdd it to Cartographer as a module.
14:41.33Adirelle|workHealth: it's not built in (at least you can make it LoadOnDemand with a simple launch of a .bat) and it's not on the minimap but a 3D arrow you can put where you want
14:41.51krkaso it's based on camera angles and stuff?
14:42.06Adirelle|workkrka: only character facing
14:42.17krkaso it's 2d?
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14:42.33Adirelle|workwait a sec
14:42.41GnarfozI'll have a screenshot up in a minute
14:42.42HealthScreenshot or it didn't happen!
14:42.49Gnarfozhttp://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/waypoint.jpg
14:42.52Gnarfozthere you go
14:43.41Adirelle|workif you facing north and the waypoint is east, the arrow will be turned toward right side of the screen
14:43.47Gnarfozindeed it will :>
14:43.51Gnarfozfeels like magic, using it :D
14:44.00Adirelle|workif you're facing south and the waypoint is east, the arrow will be turned toward left side of the screen
14:44.19Adirelle|workby you, I mean your toon, not the camera
14:44.25kenlyricThe overlook has been taken by the horde?
14:44.25krkabut it's basically an arrow in a plane?
14:44.31kenlyricthe horde can take pvp objectives?
14:44.37kenlyricit boggles the mind!
14:44.51Adirelle|workwhat you mean by "in a plane" ?
14:44.53steev64kenlyric: have to let them take em to get credit for taking them back :(
14:45.01Gnarfozthat it is, indeed, a 2d object
14:45.04Gnarfozjust a texture
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14:45.15GnarfozI guess
14:45.16Adirelle|workno, that's a 3D object with a model
14:45.22Gnarfozit is? oO
14:45.27Adirelle|workdunno where ckknight got it
14:49.14Gnarfozhe's a magician to me, anyway :D
14:50.46Fisker-Adirelle|work how can it get your facing though?
14:51.03Adirelle|workhacking with the minimap player arrow
14:51.23Adirelle|workso the model looks 3Dish, but the calculation are 2D
14:51.37Fisker-fucking smart
14:51.38Fisker-:P
14:51.49Adirelle|workIt amazed tho
14:51.50Fisker-Couldn't get how it actually got your facing
14:52.06Gnarfozthere's an api call for that, IIRC
14:52.15Adirelle|workyep
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14:52.31Adirelle|workthe tricky part is finding which Minimap children is the player arrow
14:53.24Adirelle|workbtw, that was used in a addon that showed minimap ping direction
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15:00.04CIA-1703ammo * r26494 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Mount.lua: Necronomicon2: drycoding the felsteed and dreadsteed button
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15:15.59CIA-1703gorlum * r26495 10FuBar_MarkOfHonorFu/ (4 files):
15:15.59CIA-17FuBar_MarkOfHonorFu v20005.02 "Only MoHs!" Release Date: 2007-01-29
15:16.00CIA-17+ Added "Eye of the Storm Mark of Honor"s
15:16.00CIA-17- Removed "Marks of Thrallmar" 'cause it's NOT MoHs
15:16.00CIA-17~ Clarified meaning of this addon
15:21.46Fisker-~seen pprovost
15:22.16purlpprovost <n=PProvost@pool-71-112-39-142.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 37m 32s ago, saying: 'Good idea break19 might have to do one of those...'.
15:23.24CIA-1703sutorix * r26496 10FishingAce/FishingAce.toc: FishingAce: Minor TOC change -- will there be an autogenerated TOC page?
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15:32.47HjalteSince updating today, all i get when someone trades me is "Player has requested to trade.  You have refused." Is anyone experiencing the same?
15:33.23HealthMaybe for some reason set you to refuse trades? Did you check the setting?
15:33.46HjalteHealth: Where can i do that?
15:34.08HealthLike Interface Options or something like that
15:34.15HjalteThanks Health! For some weird reason it was set to on...
15:36.32kenlyricHealth: no, either blizzard or a mod is setting that.
15:36.43kenlyrichappened to me after updating sometime yesterday.
15:37.04kenlyricguessing it was a mod, but it bugs me that a mod would default to turning that on.
15:44.10Healthyw :)
15:46.17krkahealth is so friendly!!!
15:46.59HealthI know!
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15:59.30Feldiaanyone have any idea why MountMe wsa removed from /files?
16:00.17CIA-1703gagorian * r26497 10DrDamage/ (Data/Priest.lua DrDamage.toc):
16:00.17CIA-17DrDamage:
16:00.17CIA-17-Added SW:P rank 10
16:03.29Toadkillerping Kergoth
16:03.30kenlyricwoo!!!
16:03.54ToadkillerOr can anyone tell me wtf "fix line endings" is supposed to mean or do for a .lua file?
16:04.39poptixi think some fool thought it would be a good idea to use CR instead of CRLF
16:04.50poptix\r instead of \r\n
16:04.56Toadkilleris there a way to delete his change?
16:05.05poptixopen it in edit.com, save, exit
16:05.08poptixfixed
16:05.29ToadkillerI dont want to have to merge everys single file with every damn line changed
16:05.34Toadkillerits goddam ridiculous
16:05.39poptixah, dunno then
16:05.42poptixyes, it is
16:05.43Elkanowas it really a file update or a change to the svn props?
16:06.01Toadkillerthe files log shows him in it
16:06.39kenlyricpoptix: oh, you mean he used windows to edit a file? ;)
16:07.27ToadkillerI mean, he checked in some change with the comment above and my merge file is >>>> my entire version  ==== his version <<<<<
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16:07.45kenlyricyou do realize every mod got that change, right?
16:07.49ToadkillerLEaving me no option but to junk whatever the hell it is.
16:08.02kenlyricunless this is something new?
16:08.06Toadkillergood god, why?
16:08.08kenlyricbecause that was weeks ago.
16:08.12ThorgardToadkiller, or convert the line-endings of your version to the same as the one on the SVN?
16:08.44kenlyricI believe it was an evil convergence of a mistake and versioning info.
16:08.53kenlyric*snafu
16:09.12vhaarrindeed, and then update, or copy your changes out, revert to the svn version before the line endings change and reapply your changes then check in
16:09.51poptixkenlyric: i just find it annoying that someone decided to dick with everyones mods over.. CRLF
16:09.52Toadkillerlol, I believe I have better things to do?
16:10.14poptixit's a great way to piss off developers who already have time constraints.
16:10.28Toadkillerwell guess what im not changing a goddamn thing
16:10.31kenlyricpoptix: I'll admit I'm not close to the situation. But I don't recall that was the intent.
16:10.44Toadkiller& yes I am REALLY annoyed.
16:11.07poptixit has no effect on anyone except for windows users trying to via .lua files in .. windows editors
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16:11.19poptixso yeah, someone pissed off a bunch of people for no good reason
16:11.26poptixshrug
16:11.26kenlyricwindows users in wow, perish the thought!
16:11.43Thorgardpoptix, my Windows editor handles it just fine! ;P
16:12.02poptixThorgard: some very useful mods are very simple, and are maintained with notepad =P
16:12.26poptixI prefer vim which handles it just fine
16:12.38poptixbut it was a retarded thing to do.
16:12.47Toadkillerits not about handling the line endings.  Of course my editor does.  its about what you use svn for.  I cannot compare code across a change that changes every goddamn line in every file
16:13.07Toadkillerwho exactly did this?
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16:13.55poptixsame kind of person that runs other peoples code through 'indent' because they think everyone should use their coding style =)
16:14.57kenlyricI remember being that kind of person for about three minutes :)
16:15.54CIA-1703toadkiller * r26498 10AutoBar/libs/: (log message trimmed)
16:15.54CIA-17AutoBar:
16:15.54CIA-17-- Mini Pets: Gurky [Pink Murloc Egg] itemid = 22114, Murky [Blue Murloc Egg] itemid = 20371
16:15.54CIA-17-- Major Combat Potions
16:15.54CIA-17-- Fixed right click Conjure Food for mages
16:15.55CIA-17-- PT3
16:15.57CIA-17-- Consumable.Food.Buff.*, Consumable.Food.Combo*, Consumable.Food.Percent.*
16:16.00[Ammo]Toadkiller: Kergoth felt it necessary to 'fix' line-endings.
16:16.10CIA-1703toadkiller * r26499 10AutoBar/AutoBar.toc: (log message trimmed)
16:16.10CIA-17AutoBar:
16:16.10CIA-17-- Mini Pets: Gurky [Pink Murloc Egg] itemid = 22114, Murky [Blue Murloc Egg] itemid = 20371
16:16.10CIA-17-- Major Combat Potions
16:16.11CIA-17-- Fixed right click Conjure Food for mages
16:16.13CIA-17-- PT3
16:16.15CIA-17-- Consumable.Food.Buff.*, Consumable.Food.Combo*, Consumable.Food.Percent.*
16:16.34CIA-1703toadkiller * r26500 10AutoBar/AutoBarItemList.lua: (log message trimmed)
16:16.34CIA-17AutoBar:
16:16.34CIA-17-- Mini Pets: Gurky [Pink Murloc Egg] itemid = 22114, Murky [Blue Murloc Egg] itemid = 20371
16:16.34CIA-17-- Major Combat Potions
16:16.34CIA-17-- Fixed right click Conjure Food for mages
16:16.34CIA-17-- PT3
16:16.36CIA-17-- Consumable.Food.Buff.*, Consumable.Food.Combo*, Consumable.Food.Percent.*
16:16.47kenlyrico.O
16:17.04kenlyricmore minipets! :)
16:17.05poptix[29/1016] uiu kergoth n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com [Company]
16:17.08poptix[29/1016] uiu  channels : @#wowace #svk #oe #vim #lua #tacobeam @#elinux
16:17.11poptixtold you so
16:17.14poptixvim user
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16:17.27ThorgardToadkiller, how the heck do I turn off the 'popup' stuff in AutoBar? And there's a bug that keeps potions/mounts/etc faded out after you land from taking a flightpath.
16:17.28poptixburn him at the stake
16:17.33[Ammo]he messed up some ora2 files as well
16:20.05CIA-1703toadkiller * r26501 10AutoBar/Core.lua: (log message trimmed)
16:20.05CIA-17AutoBar:
16:20.05CIA-17-- Mini Pets: Gurky [Pink Murloc Egg] itemid = 22114, Murky [Blue Murloc Egg] itemid = 20371
16:20.05CIA-17-- Major Combat Potions
16:20.06CIA-17-- Fixed right click Conjure Food for mages
16:20.06CIA-17-- PT3
16:20.08CIA-17-- Consumable.Food.Buff.*, Consumable.Food.Combo*, Consumable.Food.Percent.*
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16:20.45poptixwish i could find a way to contact the owner of fubar_tradecdfu
16:21.25CIA-1703toadkiller * r26502 10AutoBar/AutoBarProfile.lua: (log message trimmed)
16:21.25CIA-17AutoBar:
16:21.25CIA-17-- Mini Pets: Gurky [Pink Murloc Egg] itemid = 22114, Murky [Blue Murloc Egg] itemid = 20371
16:21.25CIA-17-- Major Combat Potions
16:21.26CIA-17-- Fixed right click Conjure Food for mages
16:21.26CIA-17-- PT3
16:21.28CIA-17-- Consumable.Food.Buff.*, Consumable.Food.Combo*, Consumable.Food.Percent.*
16:22.06kenlyricgoing out of shadowform should not burn the global cooldown.
16:22.16kenlyricsince when does removing a buff do that?
16:22.35Thorgardkenlyric, it's a side effect of melting too many faces.
16:22.42Stephmwdoes coming out of bearform trigger GCD?
16:22.49poptixit's not a global cooldown
16:23.08poptixit's the same delay they put on shape shifting, ice block, etc
16:23.15poptixto prevent accidental double tapping
16:23.29kenlyricthat's fine for turning it on.
16:23.43poptixcheck your interface options to disable it.
16:23.55kenlyricit's global.
16:24.05kenlyricit creates a 1.5 second cooldown on all abilities.
16:24.15poptixdont make me respec my priest to try
16:24.27poptix<PROTECTED>
16:24.29poptix<PROTECTED>
16:24.30Thorgard'Secure Ability Toggle'
16:24.31poptixtry it.
16:24.42ThorgardTurn that off in your interface options, basic.
16:24.56Toadkillerthorgard: there is no turning off popups until i finish the popup on shift key stuff.  which at this rate will never get done ;-p
16:25.12ThorgardToadkiller, shame. :/
16:25.14kenlyricgeez, when did they add that idiotic option?
16:25.23poptixkenlyric: 2.0
16:25.34kenlyricnope, still burns global cooldown.
16:25.45poptixkenlyric: try the macro i just typed out
16:26.46kenlyricnope
16:26.52kenlyric"You are in shapeshift form"
16:27.10kenlyrici'm telling you. global cooldown. Can't do shit.
16:27.30poptixguess thats what you get for being a shadow priest!
16:28.02kenlyricI've heard rumor that there's a holy priest on my server again.
16:28.12kenlyriche must be like a rare white buffalo.
16:29.08poptixour priests went back to their raid specs as soon as they hit 70, if not earlier.
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16:30.21kenlyricyeah, I can't wait.
16:30.23ZacWolfHey everyone, can someone help me with SVN login?  Has there be some change as it's not accepting my userID/password...
16:30.26kenlyricI feel so dirty in shadowform.
16:31.32Toadkillerzac: if its been a while then last november or something a bunch of new accounts got lost
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16:32.01ZacWolfNo it's only been a few weeks...
16:32.13ZacWolfI'm trying to do an update, and it won't let me login...
16:32.22ZacWolfIs there a way to reset my password, or is that something manual?
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16:35.07neeneeIs there an Ace event manager?
16:35.27neeneehm. nope
16:35.45[Ammo]ace event manager?
16:35.46[Ammo]what do you mean
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16:38.31ZacWolfAnyone know anything on resetting the SVN password?
16:38.57ZacWolfAlso, anyone know what "Interface" number we're up to now?  20006 or 20007?
16:39.44vhaarrZacWolf: Talk to Kaelten when he's here. I believe it's 20006, but I'm not sure.
16:39.46fatbrainZacWolf: there's no kewl web-interface for that kinda stuff on the website?=
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16:40.14ZacWolfI looked and didn't see kind of web interface for password reset
16:40.21ZacWolfvhaarr, thanks, I'll look for him.
16:40.30ZacWolfIs it a he or a she?
16:41.32neenee[Ammo]: I meant something like Guild Event Manager or Group Calendar. Indeed I was a bit vague ;)
16:41.34vhaarrhe
16:41.55ZacWolfThanks
16:44.26CIA-1703mok * r26503 10item2phpBB/localization.lua:
16:44.26CIA-17item2phpBB:
16:44.26CIA-17- fixed unicodes in localization.lua
16:45.03CIA-1703nymbia * r26504 10GrindStatus/modules/OutlandShattrath.lua:
16:45.03CIA-17GrindStatus:
16:45.04CIA-17- Commas are our friends, drycoding is not.
16:45.04CIA-17- (drycoded lol)
16:45.17[Ammo]drycoding is the new hip
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16:46.21Mokyeah, like writing a jewelcrafting addon without having the profession ^^
16:46.26Mok<-
16:48.36vid`hey Toadkiller, for some reason, my autobar isn't saving the theme, default/dreamlayout/zoomed. if i click on one of em, it will modify the button, but it reverts as soon as i cast a spell or something
16:48.51vid`also get black squares around the hotkeys when i mouse over em with cycircled
16:48.55vid`maybe its a bug with cycircled /shrug
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16:55.25CIA-1703mok * r26505 10GemList/ (. GemList.lua GemList.toc localization.lua):
16:55.25CIA-17GemList: initial commit
16:55.25CIA-17- Lets anyone know which gems you can craft using the !gems command in whispers
16:55.26CIA-17- based on EnchantList by Athou
16:56.21Toadkillervid`: that is peculiar
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16:58.14Toadkillervid`: not seeing it on my version.  Are you using the version I just checked in?
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17:02.13Mikmahttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=120474875 :D
17:02.28Mikmathat is a post where user i kicked out from guild es saying i bot
17:02.42Mikmathe reason why i kicked him out is because we found HIM botting :D
17:03.43vid`nope toad
17:03.46vid`i was using version from last night
17:03.57vid`whatever was most recent as of like 11pm est last night
17:04.03vid`im @ work :P
17:04.08vid`or i'd login and try new one
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17:06.21CIA-1703toadkiller * r26506 10AutoBar/AutoBar.xml:
17:06.22CIA-17AutoBar:
17:06.22CIA-17---
17:06.58CIA-1703gits * r26507 10Acolyte/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
17:06.58CIA-17Acolyte:
17:06.59CIA-17- FIX: german Dreadsteed localization
17:06.59CIA-17- CHANGE: ReloadUI is no longer required, decreased memory usage, higher framestrata, optimized some functions, a click on the move button calls the GUI
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17:12.19winkillerdeDE-localization violates the Geneva Conventions
17:13.20Mokach was so schlimm ist es doch garnicht :P
17:13.36Ani|seh ich auch so ;)
17:14.42Tornhoofsigned@winkiller
17:15.31Mokhttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_AddOn#Accents.2C_Special_Chars_and_Umlauts ;)
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17:17.15GnarfozMok: the translation of the game itself >_>
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17:17.57ZacWolfIs anyone working on an AceUpdater for Mac?
17:18.01Mokoh. in this case you get a full ack
17:18.28Moki'm using enGB, too
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17:20.05Gnarfoz:>
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17:20.40Mokwhat do i have to do to get my addons listet in files.wowace.com?
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17:22.49[Ammo]Mok: wait 20 mins
17:22.59[Ammo]zips are generated every 20 mins
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17:24.38Mokok
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17:25.46CIA-1703mok * r26508 10GemList/:
17:25.46CIA-17GemList:
17:25.46CIA-17- typo
17:28.05neeneehm.. Does anyone know what the FullAlpha setting does?
17:28.10neeneein Config.WTF?
17:29.52|Kev|ZacWolf: yes
17:30.07|Kev|ZacWolf: http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater
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17:32.11Fisker-~seen kaelten
17:32.29purlkaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 4h 27m 45s ago, saying: 'night guys'.
17:32.41Fisker-Anyone have any knowledge of the files script?
17:32.54Fisker-i have the bestest idea
17:33.24NeoTronhmm
17:33.45NeoTronthere's an idea for an addon - adding a tooltip to gems with the various cut gems you can make from it
17:34.07NeoTronI mean, all available gem cuts for that particular gem
17:35.18neeneeYou're a jewel-crafter?
17:35.37Daemonai'd prefer something that tells me what gems i can put in a socket when i mouse-over the socket when the socket-interface is open.
17:36.04kenlyricNeoTron: Daemona: Those are both excellent ideas :)
17:36.05Fisker-ckknight want to play pong?
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17:37.14Adirelle|workdo you remember who talked about craftbot ? barbanus ?
17:37.29NeoTronI'm a miner
17:37.44NeoTronwould help me to know whether a gem I found is worth keeping or something I should sell
17:37.51NeoTronand yes, mousing over a socket => gem list would be nice too
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17:38.29NeoTronso far I have no socketed items I would waste gems on however
17:38.45kenlyricNeoTron: just sell everything :)
17:38.53kenlyricit's all worthless if you don't have an epic flying mount :)
17:39.51NeoTronheh
17:39.58NeoTronso far I've been pretty much doing that yes
17:40.09NeoTronI have 3000g to go
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17:40.28_neuron_is it possible to have a single addline in tabletlib with seperate buttons?
17:40.43_neuron_ie one line with abandon/share/close instead of abandon share close under eachother
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17:40.59NeoTronI've noticed however that the insane pricing of metal is starting to come down to normal levels
17:41.12kenlyricNeoTron, I know, it sucks.
17:41.14NeoTronwhich is why I was planning to have a friend prospect my ore instead of selling it
17:41.33NeoTronhe says you tend to get a blue gem per ~20 admantine ore
17:41.59HarshmageNeo, I expected as much for the raw ore prices to skyrocket...Jewelcrafting is the new fad...
17:42.03kenlyricI'm vendoring just about every boe green I get now. People finally wised up and stopped buying them :)
17:42.03_neuron_gah /me 's afk, phone, if someone knows the answer to my question leave me a message please :P
17:42.07Antiarc|WorkOddly, I've been making a killing reselling recipes
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17:42.27Antiarc|WorkOn my server, I am buying the Imbued Netherweave Bag pattern for 4g and selling it for 30g. I'm selling 3-4 per day right now.
17:42.48Antiarc|WorkI have no idea why people are buying, but I'm not complaining.
17:42.58kenlyricI love lazy people who don't know how to use the web :)
17:43.03Tekkubbecause they're lazy and stupid?
17:43.04Antiarc|WorkMe too.
17:43.09Tekkubthe pattern is white right?
17:43.12Antiarc|WorkYes.
17:43.17Tekkubyea, they're stupid
17:43.24Antiarc|WorkI'm also selling the Ravager Dog recipe - the first one you ever find in Outlands - for about 15g.
17:43.34HarshmageAnyone realize, that anyone who hasn't bought their normal Epic riding skill will have to shell out 6630g for the epic flying mount?
17:43.40Antiarc|WorkI made about 200g reselling the Master First Aid books, as well.
17:43.50Antiarc|WorkThose got flooded fast, though
17:43.51NeoTronAntiarc|Work: lol
17:43.54Tekkubyes Harshmage
17:43.59kenlyricHarshmage... yeah, sucks to be a pally/warlock :)
17:44.07TekkubI never got an epic, had no need to blow the money
17:44.11NeoTronso anyone else went to the black morass yet? CoT second instance
17:44.11kenlyricwhat if you don't have 150 skill and you're a druid?
17:44.12winkillermy epic riding skill was 0,0g
17:44.21Feldiayes I've been to black morass
17:44.22Feldiamany times
17:44.23Tekkubpally/warlock... boo fucking hoo
17:44.25Antiarc|WorkI am so glad for my epic. Outland is BIG.
17:44.26NeoTronkenlyric: I've been wondering that
17:44.32winkillerno, rank 11 :P
17:44.36Antiarc|WorkPlus, having the full gamut of PVP mounts rules.
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17:45.35winkilleryep
17:45.40winkillerneed a hawkstrider tho
17:45.52NeoTrona team of 70 lock, 69 lock, 69 druid, 69 hunter and 67 priest wasn't quite enough. strats was part of the problem but I think a bit more healing would have been good
17:45.55Antiarc|WorkI'm working on Exodar rep, but I'm not really rushing.
17:46.25NeoTrongot the first boss down twice though
17:46.30kenlyricyou can go from revered to exalted just doing the quests in the two starting zones of any faction.
17:46.42kenlyricsince they all give full rep now.
17:46.46Fisker-So anyone got any knowledge of the script used to power wowace.com/files ?
17:46.47Antiarc|WorkOoh, they do?
17:46.54kenlyricyes, yes they do :)
17:47.00kenlyricsince 1.12, I think.
17:47.03Antiarc|WorkCool. I'll go quest then.
17:47.10Fisker-2.0.1 actually
17:47.10Antiarc|WorkI thought they gave 10% when they went grey, still
17:47.14Fisker-nope
17:47.19Antiarc|WorkSlick.
17:47.21kenlyricI got my kitty mount from the elves at level 49 :)
17:47.24Fisker-Changed to give full reputation regardless
17:47.27NeoTronthere's also exodar quests in ashenvale
17:47.28Fisker-which is pretty lame imo though
17:47.32kenlyricbefore I could even think of doing runecloth.
17:47.36Fisker-might as well remove the whole runecloth deal
17:47.45tlunduhm.. i switched to the new 1.7-beta3 of WowAceUpdater and suddenly all of my ACE-addons are complainging about how it cant find librarys?
17:47.53kenlyricyeah, I had a friend who finished like a week before I did, after months of runecloth turnins :)
17:48.02NeoTronIf anything I think I'll get the mount from the Nagrand faction
17:48.04kenlyricI spent a day in darkshore and did the same thing.
17:48.16NeoTronbut then again I need my epic flying mount :P
17:48.21kenlyrictalbuk? only slightly uglier than a dwarf mount.
17:48.35FeldiaNeoTron:  I've had nothing but success with shadowpriest / paladin / warrior / 2 dps
17:48.40kenlyrictlund: don't use f10
17:48.58NeoTronFeldia: well, this was our first attempt and the priest was a bit low level for an only healer
17:49.00tlundkenlyric: yeah, that was my misstake i guess :(
17:49.03kenlyricit's a horribly undocumented function that does the opposite of what any sane person would want.
17:49.06tlundkenlyric: what is wrong with f10?
17:49.12kenlyrictlund, just run it again with F12.
17:49.13NeoTronthe first boss is prety straight forward tank and spank
17:49.17Feldiawell, my only recent clears have been at level 70
17:49.26Feldiabut our first was the same gruop, but ranging from level 66-68
17:49.30kenlyrictlund: f10 selects your installed mods, and installs them without externals.
17:49.34NeoTronon the second one, we dpsed too early so the druid couldn't get aggro. plus we learned later we should have dragged the boss away from the protal
17:49.56NeoTronI'm sure we'll get it down shortly once we get the strats down
17:50.09tlundkenlyric: it doesnt update any addons when i press f4/f12 :(
17:50.21NeoTronthe first time we wiped because we didn't clear out the various spiders, crocs and panther things first
17:50.21kenlyricI discovered that the first boss in the underbog is significantly easier when the tank has 9k hp vs 6.5k hp.
17:50.25kenlyricAnd, knows how to move.
17:50.36NeoTronout druid tank has 13k hp :)
17:50.40NeoTronor 11.5k with max AC gear
17:50.48tlundkenlyric: ..since all of them are at latest revision now
17:50.50NeoTronI have, with the same buffs, 10.5K hp on my lock :)
17:51.04kenlyrictlund: then change the setting to check version number.
17:51.10kenlyricturn it off, run once, turn it back on.
17:51.13tlundyeah, ok
17:51.15tlundthanks
17:51.35tlundany idea why that f10 was implemented?
17:51.54Daemonaask in #wau ?
17:52.15kenlyrictlund: I assume it was to directly punish those of us that asked for it :)
17:52.25tlundhaha, ok :)
17:52.49kenlyric"gee, it would be nice to have one button that would update all of the installed mods"  .... "bwahahaha, I'll show you one button!"
17:53.17CIA-1703shiftos * r26509 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: esES updated
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17:53.38chutwighmm i wonder why the aguf castbar is smooth on my mac but not on my pc
17:53.45tlundkenlyric: i was going to feature-request to do it without buttins, with a command-line switch :)
17:53.55tlundkenlyric: soo i can run it from a .bat that starts wow right afterwards
17:53.59CIA-1703shiftos * r26510 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: esES updated
17:54.14Kemayo_neuron_: You were looking for me?
17:54.20_neuron_yeah
17:54.27CIA-1703shiftos * r26511 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: esES updated
17:54.34kenlyrictlund: well, worrying about user needs is solved pretty nicely by having options. Why there's no option... I'll never know.
17:55.09_neuron_modularized your details frame for example (didn't commit though, since the code is yours not mine ;)
17:55.22PogoTribalBlizz likes to think that Druids not being able to parry somehow makes them worse tanks.
17:55.49chutwigwho needs to parry when you have 20k ac
17:55.50_neuron_PogoTribal, shush, it's good, as a druid tank when a warrior cries you can always go "YEAH BUT YOU PARRY" :P
17:56.09PogoTribalA level 64 Druid in feral gear bear form has over 10k hit points... I haven't seen a Warrior break 10k hit points in tank gear in the expansion without being level 70.
17:56.44durcynPogoTribal: that's because none of the warriors spec for vitality, but all of the druids have hotw
17:56.50NeoTronPogoTribal: No, people think that, not Blizzard
17:56.52tlundPogoTribal: our MT who is 65 now has over 10K hp
17:56.58tlundin tank gear
17:57.17neeneeYup, it all depends on your definition of 'tank gear' and/or 'feral gear'.
17:57.20NeoTronI think both Blizzard and druids knows that druids are pretty much equally viable tanks as warriors
17:57.29PogoTribalAll of our Druids have almost 10k in bear form.
17:57.35_neuron_Kemayo, can I pm you?
17:57.36NeoTronplus druids have higher dodge
17:57.47NeoTronso they don't parry but they dodge more often
17:57.48PogoTribalThey have a much easier time achieving it than warriors do in TBC.
17:57.51neeneeTank/Feral gear in TBC has more health, as they increased the armor gain in Dire Bear form, so the druids can afford to get lower-armor items.
17:58.18neeneeIf that change wasn't there, I think druids would have less health when tanking.
17:58.47NeoTronthey changed dire bear from a flat bonus to 25% bonus
17:58.51NeoTronthat's a major benefit
17:59.13durcynstill, one of our druids was getting 17k armor, 11k HP and still doing 2k+ crits in bear form... overpowered much?
17:59.13chutwigas a paladin i feel severely emasculated by druids now
17:59.23PogoTribalThe only warriors I see break 10k at level 64-65 is those that had Tier 2/3 going into the expansion, whereas the druids are hitting 10k from just quest rewards.
17:59.27winkilleranyone got an idea what maybe went wrong: I "unemebedded" all my ace-stuff yesterday via stanalonelibs -and it's nearly as fast as before TBC
17:59.30chutwignearly anything i can do, they can do better
17:59.52kenlyricnah... they can't bubblehearth.
17:59.55neeneeEvery class is overpowered and every class needs to be made better if you have to believe the forums.
17:59.59NeoTronchutwig: paladin tanks are unbeatable for AoE tanking
18:00.01durcynkenlyric: cyclone-hearth!
18:00.03kenlyricthey also can't complain about swords going to warriors.
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18:00.22PogoTribalI'm not really talking about forums, I'm talking as the person healing the main tank.
18:00.22kenlyricpaladins will still have their use as being the biggest loot crybabies in the game ;)
18:00.30NeoTronI love doing instances with paladin offtanks fro that very reason
18:00.33PogoTribalPaladins suck at taking damage.
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18:00.38Fisker-So anyone got any knowledge of the script used to power wowace.com/files ?
18:00.48chutwigyou'd probably cry too if any time you tried to get loot it was denied
18:00.51NeoTronthey might not typically be the most suited for main tanking but damn are they good at OT
18:00.52winkillersvn hook I guess
18:00.58chutwigand they said "this class can use it better so you're shit out of luck"
18:01.20durcynnot a hook anymore, it's a 20 minute cron that does an svn co, inserts the changelog, and zips it
18:01.28kenlyricthey have made hybrid classes more useful, that's for usre... plenty of places where you want tanking/dps in one part, and healing in another.
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18:02.13ZacWolfMy Guild has an 10 man all Tauren Druid raiding party, and it's been fun as hell so far (lvl 40-50)
18:02.14chutwigat least paladin tanking is viable now for more than just spamming consecrate and wishful thoughts
18:02.19durcynchutwig: we had one paladin whose goal in life was to take every 2h dps weapon he could get his hands on.
18:02.27chutwigi tanked sethekk halls 3 times yesterday without any serious mishaps
18:02.37winkillerlol ZacWolf
18:02.41winkillersounds nice
18:02.42chutwigand there would've been no mishaps if i had had a single point in protectio
18:02.51_neuron_would be cool as hell to do a 25man druid raiding party, prowl into instances and kill bosses :P
18:02.58NeoTronchutwig: a lot of guilds are still not able to comprehend that paladin == healer, druid == healer isn't the sole truth
18:03.01kenlyricchutwig: I'm a priest. I know the pain the paladin feels. I just complain about it less :)
18:03.07NeoTronheck, it never was but now it's anything but
18:03.12chutwigkenlyric: shadow priests actually hurt things, though
18:03.15chutwigretribution paladins, well
18:03.24kenlyricbut honestly, if I had to level a paladin, I'd be cranky anyway.
18:03.32NeoTronI do agree I don't see paladin as a DPS class. but tanking they can do well
18:03.35ZacWolfWe've all spec'ed across all the trees, but even with that we can all switch up roles pretty darned easily.
18:03.39PogoTribalPaladins can hold aggro fine, but they really don't have the HP to tank unless they went supercrazy with enchants and sockets.
18:03.40chutwigpaladin DPS is pure burst
18:03.42kenlyricchutwig: which would be fine if I was a shadow priest while raiding.
18:03.55chutwigthere is no such thing as high sustainable paladin DPS
18:04.00NeoTronwe have at least 2 priests in-guild that level with holy/disc spec
18:04.07NeoTronI don't understand how they can survive
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18:04.15PogoTribalHoly/Disc needs damage trinkets.
18:04.19chutwigwith my current weapon and SoR up i sustain about 300 DPS but that's woefully low
18:04.21NeoTronkenlyric: I was a shadow priest in naxxramas... of course they mostly had me healing
18:04.25durcynNeoTron: lolsmite spec dps isn't horrible
18:04.25PogoTribalI have 3 of them, and I went with 11 in shadow for mind flay.
18:04.33kenlyricI was on a run recently, and having the paladin able to tank on those 6--mob pulls and then heal on the bosses was very very nice.
18:04.36NeoTrondurcyn: ah but it's not lolsmite, it's holy spec.
18:04.48chutwigdisc you can level as
18:04.50chutwigholy, that's painful
18:04.52NeoTronmeaning an optimal healing spec not optimal non-shadow dps spec
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18:05.04kenlyricdisc you can level with, I just don't know why you would want to.
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18:05.07durcynwe call those masochists
18:05.18NeoTronbecause they like to be useful in instances I guess
18:05.32NeoTronbut I still never would put myself through that pain :)
18:05.33PogoTribalDisc isn't all that great for instances...
18:05.40chutwigdisc is annoying as hell in pvp
18:05.40kenlyricyeah, because instances are so hard you can't heal them without holy spec? lol.
18:05.48kenlyricyou don't need disc/holy until you step into a raid.
18:05.50NeoTronin fact, if I had playing my priest I probably would have not just levelled as shadow but stayed there
18:05.51chutwigshadow priests i can kill
18:05.53chutwigdisc?  forget it
18:06.17PogoTribalUntil I power infuse myself and trinket for 1.6k Mind Blasts? yeah
18:06.18NeoTronbut alas, now I'm levelling my warlock and well
18:06.27NeoTronI won't go back to priest, paladin or druid again
18:06.28durcynoh well, it all changes soon when people realize they have to man up for heroic instances
18:06.31PogoTribalOr reflect shield while fearing and mind flaying you? yeah.
18:06.37kenlyric15% damage increase all of the time is insanely overpowered for levelling.
18:06.39NeoTronalthough I might level my shaman on any spare time I have
18:06.52chutwigi levelled one shaman, not doing another
18:07.00NeoTronmy shaman is level 60
18:07.02chutwignow it's a pretty pretty draenei mage :3
18:07.12Fisker-http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4485.0 :D
18:07.35NeoTronI wouldn't level from scratch again I don't think
18:07.47NeoTronI just did my warlock from 1 to 60 finishing 2 weeks before BC
18:07.51chutwigi'm doing a mage because it's pretty easy and because i want to get to 70 and feel overpowered
18:07.51_neuron_almost every time I level I think never again
18:07.53NeoTronI think he has less than 15d played total
18:08.26NeoTron_neuron_: let's see. Beta: 60 druid, 45 priest, retail 60s: pally, priest, druid, shaman, warlock...
18:08.38_neuron_yeah I have tons of characters as well ;)
18:09.01PogoTribalPaladin, Priest, Hunter, Mage, soon to be Rogue
18:09.07NeoTronone would note that the warlock was my first 60 that wasn't a healer
18:09.07chutwigi'm going to slowly get my warlock to 70
18:09.28NeoTronfirst 70 in the guild was a warlock
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18:09.46chutwigour first was a druid but he poopsocked pretty much since the minute it came out
18:09.47NeoTronI'm going to be among the first 5 - there are at least 3 that should hti 70 tonight, maybe as many as 5
18:09.59kenlyricpoopsocked?
18:10.05kenlyricthis is a new word for me :)
18:10.05chutwighe hit it the first weekend, i think i got 70 on thursday
18:10.12NeoTronthe guy who made 70 first took time off work to level
18:10.30chutwigpoopsocking is implying that they never left the computer and crapped into socks
18:10.44_neuron_good word
18:10.53chutwigit's versatile
18:11.59Kemayo_neuron_: I'm pming you as we speak.
18:12.06_neuron_oh god dammit
18:12.09_neuron_I wrote tons of stuff to you
18:12.14_neuron_but forgot to /nickserv identify
18:12.17_neuron_I do that every time
18:12.29_neuron_just once I wish I'd remember that
18:13.16kenlyriccrapping into a sock sounds difficult.
18:13.27NeoTronThe guild I'm in is a raiding guild (although I never raided with them as I joined late), but the quality of players seems to differ greatl
18:13.31NeoTrongreatly
18:13.33kenlyricmust be a cultural thing.
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18:13.52stavmarwhy does the cartographer "package" not include the mining and herbalism and other addons?
18:13.54chutwig+20 to poopsocking if of korean descent
18:14.13kenlyricNeoTron: sure. Guilds have three kinds of players. Good ones. Loot whores. Good Loot Whores.
18:14.19durcynsomeone must've missed an episode of south park
18:14.22Ominoushey, unrelated question: what is the difference between Norton Internet Security 2007 OEM and Norton Internet Security 2007? when buying as the first is £15 cheaper
18:14.35durcynOminous: oem is technically only sold with hardware
18:14.39NeoTronkenlyric: this guild is sort of casual, i.e not many requirements in terms of attendence
18:14.40chutwigone will destroy your computer slightly less
18:14.51NeoTronwhich really is a good thing but also bad
18:14.58kenlyricNeoTron: keeping the first ones and ditching the second ones and trying to work with the third ones is a balance every guild has to make :)
18:15.03winkillerOminous: I'd say: totally useless versus useless
18:15.22Ominouswhat is the actual difference though
18:15.32kenlyricOEM generally means no discs :)
18:15.34chutwigOEM is meant to be bundled with hardware
18:15.56kenlyricon a hard drive OEM means you don't get a box, or a cable :)
18:16.01chutwigfunctionally they will both do a perfectly good job of hosing your computer in classic norton fashion
18:16.04durcynOEM means original equipment manufacturer, equipment being meatspace stuff.  it's not meant to be sold retail.
18:16.11Elkanobulk vs retail?
18:16.18chutwigsomething like that
18:16.27durcynnot volume.. bundleware
18:16.36durcynas in, dell or compaq tosses it in as a value add
18:16.42Ominousok ty
18:16.44chutwigit comes in bulk to the OEM and then they part it out
18:17.00CIA-1703ammo * r26512 10Necronomicon2/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Necronomicon2: all drycoding fixed. Now functions as an overbloated shardcounter with nonfunctioning summon and mount button.
18:17.00tlund"Diplomat" Doesnt come with a default config? :(
18:17.11tlundit would be nice if someone had already configured it for me ;)
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18:24.10KirkburnSpamSentry still doesn't show in WAU :(
18:24.32PogoTribal<kenlyric> crapping into a sock sounds difficult.   <~~~ Indeed
18:24.44Adirellekergoth: ping
18:25.16ElkanoKirkburn, it's broken anyways
18:25.51CIA-1703sylvanaar * r26513 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Beta 2
18:25.52Kirkburnah
18:25.59bindiwhats up with the not being able to target people?
18:26.21Kirkburnbindi, is there some context you want to add to that question?
18:26.28CIA-1703sylvanaar 072.0b2 * r26514 10Prat/: Prat: Beta 2
18:26.29bindieeehm yeh
18:26.32bindiag_unitframes
18:26.42chutwigi had that problem with old revisions
18:26.42KirkburnOh, clicking on the frames?
18:26.47bindiquite a lot people have the problem that you sometimes just cant target people
18:26.47PogoTribalIt happens with CTRA in raids too.
18:26.47bindi:s
18:26.57KirkburnYeah, I had it too
18:26.57chutwigwhere if i tried to target a frame in combat it would stop working until i reloaded the UI
18:27.05Daemonascrew crea?
18:27.10chutwigi could still target the unit frame but it wouldn't let me select the frame
18:27.15Daemonas/crea/ctra
18:27.25chutwigfigured it was just some dumb crap going on with protected frames blah blah blah
18:27.36PogoTribalDaemona: That means what?
18:27.48sylvanaarKirkburn http://files.wowace.com/spamsentry
18:28.05Kirkburnsylvanaar, oh I know that, but since Elkano says it's broken anyway ... :P
18:28.08bindiidd chutwig
18:28.28chutwigi haven't had the problem for some time though bindi
18:28.30sylvanaarcan you change the mirrors.txt file?
18:28.38bindibleh i do :s pretty annoying
18:28.41bindiguildies have it too
18:29.10sylvanaaror rather - who can change ir
18:29.12sylvanaarit
18:29.43bindiany chance to fix it?
18:29.51Daemonascrew ctra, get bigwigs/ora2
18:29.58ElkanoKirkburn, well, have a look at it's code... it's using getn, it shedules events on self.CheckReport instead of self:CheckReport and maybe a lot of other things, too
18:30.01chutwiglike i said, updating fixed it for me
18:30.02bindii have :p
18:30.02bindirofl
18:30.18PogoTribalIt happens to all mods that I've tried... I don't use CTRA anymores.
18:30.22Elkanoit did catch a spammer, but it keeped readding it to it's list every 15secs or so
18:31.14bindihmm i update frequently, didn't fix it yet tho
18:31.19sylvanaarstavmar there is an addon Package_Cartographer that has all the modules internal and external
18:31.53chutwigdid you also try removing its settings file from SavedVariables and deleting the wdb cache?
18:31.59chutwigafter some combination of that it resolved itself for me
18:32.11chutwigeither that or some other addon is causing the frames to break
18:32.12bindinah not yet
18:32.30Adirellewho uses carto_mining/herba here ?
18:32.38chutwigdo you use either of the rangecheck addons?
18:33.10stavmarsylvanaar: does it somehow erase all the gathering data that I have already collected with herbs and such?
18:33.32sylvanaarstavmar do you save data in your addons folder?
18:34.01stavmarno it goes in teh WTF folder?
18:34.08Fisker-So anyone got any knowledge of the script used to power wowace.com/files ?
18:34.10sylvanaarstavmar then it doesnt
18:34.33stavmarDoes someone have a saved variables file available with their herbing data to download?
18:34.40sylvanaarFisker- the web page or the zip script
18:34.50KirkburnQuestion: what cooldown addons do people recommend?
18:34.57Fisker-i dunno, probably both :P
18:35.01sylvanaaromnicc
18:35.07ElkanoKirkburn, I use OmniCC
18:35.14chutwigi'll have to try omnicc
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18:35.19chutwigi used oCD until it got taken off the svn
18:35.22Elkanobut I think it fails ArkInventory
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18:36.29Josh_Borkepastamancer: ping
18:36.30KirkburnoCD and OmniCC do slightly different things
18:36.56CIA-1703ammo * r26515 10Necronomicon2/Modules/ (Mount.lua SoulShard.lua Summon.lua): Necronomicon2: mount button works, summon button works, soulshard button functions as drain soul button as well.
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18:37.45chutwigbut i found i didn't really need oCD much anyway
18:39.24Josh_Borkepastamancer: i bumped your CastCommLib thread on wowi.  you going to release it any time soon?  I'm using it in one of my mods: SimulCast
18:40.32_neuron_what does simulcast do?
18:40.58Josh_Borke_neuron_: currently not much.  just adds sparks to your blizzard castbar for all the spells being cast on your current spell target
18:41.22_neuron_if it showed some bars of who's casting what spells on your target it'd be kinda neat :p (for healing I mean)
18:42.02Josh_Borke_neuron_: only does it on your cast bar.  check into HealSync, HealWatch, Djore (sp) casting bars, Healers Assist
18:42.09Josh_BorkeForecast (i think has been updated)
18:42.16_neuron_hm, thanks, I will
18:42.29Josh_Borkei wrote HealWatch, so I know how crappy it is
18:42.44Josh_Borkethe others I've never used
18:43.29_neuron_hehe
18:43.42Josh_Borkei link to those (except for djor's) on my HealWatch page on wowi, dorje healing bars is the right name!
18:43.44PogoTribalIs Healsync 2.0?
18:43.48PogoTribalI used to use that, loved it.
18:43.51Josh_Borkeit's on ui.worldofwar.net
18:44.04Josh_BorkePogoTribal: yes, and someone wrote an Ace version of it (i think)
18:44.09PogoTribalDon't really need it in 5-mans, just wondering.
18:44.59Josh_Borkepoof, i'm gone
18:45.26PogoTribal...
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19:00.43CIA-1703anea * r26516 10SpamSentry/ (core.lua readme.txt spamsentry.xml):
19:00.43CIA-17SpamSentry:
19:00.43CIA-17- Added code to fix an issue in the reporting logic, that resulted in a looping error when spam was found in a general channel.
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19:02.25sbuheya
19:03.51sbuMok: 1. really cool idea with GemList 2. i always get the message "Open your Jewelcrafting panel first" - no matter if it's open or not, and automatic scan also doesnt work :(
19:06.05Moksbu: im after that ^^
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19:07.52CIA-1703sylvanaar * r26517 10Prat/extras/PratFu.lua: Prat: the fubar panel apparently has a hardcoded beta 1 - changed to beta 2, lazy
19:11.12NeoTronSo does ag_uf have support for pets? two of my priest friends, at least, claim they use ag_uf and have no pet bars
19:11.23NeoTronwhich means my pet, offtanking pet I should add, dies a bit too much..
19:12.24NeoTronSo has anyone but me ever desired the ability to zoom in on the world map? Especially now with all the auto-generated notes on the map
19:12.56Moki'm using ag_uf and can see the party's pets
19:14.03Mokbut i can't see the new shaman/priest "pets"
19:14.36dalvarezanyone kaelten?
19:14.38dalvarezerr
19:14.39dalvarez*seen
19:15.03Mokwonder if this works:
19:15.05Mok~seen kaelten
19:15.35purlkaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 6h 10m 51s ago, saying: 'night guys'.
19:15.35Mokk ^^
19:15.35NeoTronMok: the temporary pets probably doesn't count the same way
19:15.35NeoTronthey are both uncontrolled I believe
19:15.39NeoTroni.e just attack nearest target kind of a mob?
19:15.47NeoTron:se noai
19:15.47NeoTrona:se ai
19:15.47Mokyeah right
19:15.59NeoTronerr. anyhow, think they need to upgrade their aguf
19:16.30Mokneotron: i hope ther is a way to wirkaround this. thiese elementals are cool emergency tanks
19:16.41Neeblerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ48K3XjnVA
19:17.04NeoTronMok: target and /focus?
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19:18.12Mokyep.  have to use a macro.
19:19.11Moki hate it :)
19:19.25Moki think blizz invented focus just because of this :)
19:19.49NeoTronheh
19:19.50NeoTronwell
19:19.53NeoTronfocus is damn useful
19:20.00Mokhm
19:20.15NeoTronescort quests is where I primarily use it
19:20.17NeoTronas i'm not a healer
19:21.05NeoTronbut if I was on banish duty I'd just /focus the one I need to kept banished
19:21.05Mokyes
19:21.05Mokescorts and temp-pets ^^
19:21.06Mokim a priest and dont use it often
19:21.13Neeblermy banish macro: /cast [modifier:shift,target=focus] Banish; [nomodifier,target=playertarget] Banish; /focus
19:21.58CIA-1703sylvanaar * r26518 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: another hardcoded beta 1, good work
19:22.07NeoTronNeebler: I really need to start getting some fancy macros set up
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19:22.50NeoTronI probably will take some time once I get to 70, most likely tuesday (70 tonight, but no time to do that) to clean up my action bars, make macros etc
19:24.32PogoTribalMana leeches can kiss my ass.
19:24.43PogoTribalThey have like a 50 yard range.
19:24.47Neeblerneotron, are you a warlock?
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19:29.19Ordoghm lvl 65 and im going to do carrot on a stick quest and noggenfogger ^^
19:29.41Ordogsoloing should work eh?
19:30.08winkillerhehe
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19:31.27Neeblerit's the knight!
19:32.13pastamancerJosh_Borke: oh, I guess I consider it "released" already
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19:32.58ckknighthey all
19:34.38NeoTronNeebler: i am
19:34.57NeoTronOrdog: I solod the carrot quest at 60 on my lock. :P
19:35.25NeoTronand my stupid pet got stuck in the pool when I did the hydra, who never entered the pool. heh
19:36.49Fisker-hey ckknight
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19:37.39ckknighthow's it going?
19:39.26Amadeosup ck
19:40.38CIA-1703toadkiller * r26519 10AutoBar/AutoBarItemList.lua:
19:40.38CIA-17AutoBar:
19:40.38CIA-17-Fix water category
19:41.53Amadeohahaha
19:42.02AmadeoApple had offered the iPhone exclusively to Verizon
19:42.08AmadeoVerizon said no, so they went Cingular
19:42.20KarlThePaganouch
19:42.21KarlThePaganlol
19:44.38Fisker-Fine ckknight, btw you know anything about the files script kaelten uses?
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19:45.39ckknightsure don't
19:45.44ckknightpastamancer does, methinks
19:46.00ckknightAmadeo: which is soon to be called AT&T
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19:46.23Amadeoyeah, I think it is now
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19:47.55NivyanCan someone explain to me what the Focus thing is?
19:48.36dreyruugrIt's like a shortcut to a unit
19:48.57Nivyanhow? you like, bind a key to lock on to a unit?
19:49.02dreyruugr./focus Nivyan - that would many any reference to "focus" point to you
19:49.12KarlThePaganuse /focus to set it and then you can do things like /cast [target=focus,exists,nodead] Shackle Undead; Shackle Undead
19:49.28dreyruugr./focus NameOfTheMainAssist
19:49.32Nivyanahh alright thx
19:49.32dreyruugr./assist focus
19:49.45KarlThePaganthat macro would cast shackle on my focus if it exists and isn't dead, otherwise cast on my target
19:49.57Nivyanah ok, thx alot
19:51.14Nivyananother question :P - Which "background" addons are good= (and doesnt use much memory) Like discord bars, just without the 5mb of memory use
19:51.38pastamancerFisker-: what's up?
19:56.54neeneeIs there a way for nQuestLog to not have the Blizzard Tracker to pop up?
19:57.11neeneeTwo trackers is a bit silly
19:57.28_neuron_neenee, turn it off? :P
19:57.32_neuron_it's in the blizzard settings
19:57.44_neuron_interface options -> automatic quest tracking
19:57.55neeneeah
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19:58.16chutwigi was using EQL and switched to nquestlog when i aceified
19:58.23neeneeAh, there it is. Thanks :)
19:58.30PogoTribalI haven't seen a single undead instance mob to shackle yet :(
19:58.45chutwigplenty in sethekk
19:59.06PogoTribalI expected it in Mana Tombs, for obvious reasons.
19:59.27CodayusMana tombs mobs LOOK undead.  :-)
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19:59.42CodayusI zoned in, and was like...  "zomg it's energy mummies!"
20:00.02chutwigethereals :o
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20:00.18CodayusYeah.
20:00.44CodayusI prefer ethereals, as it turns out, but I was still saddened not to be able to shackle.  :-)
20:01.18chutwigi like having a reason to use turn undead now
20:02.04JoshBorkelol, energy mummies
20:02.06JoshBorkethat's awesome
20:02.36chutwigi kept trying to use exorcism on them because they look unead
20:02.37chutwigundead
20:02.47Nivyanwhich "bottom texture"-addon is customizable and doesnt use much memory?
20:02.59_neuron_Nivyan, skinner or epanels
20:03.10_neuron_eepanel possibly :p, it's esomething anyway :P
20:03.17Nivyankk
20:03.18CodayusSee?  I'm not alone.  They're in a TOMB.  They look like MUMMIES.  You even have a quest to retrieve the WRAPPING of one.  They're MUMMIES.  :-p
20:04.18chutwigyou run into them a lot in nagrand and netherstorm
20:04.38CodayusYeah.
20:04.57CodayusStormspire = awesome town.
20:05.33CodayusActually, I like everything about the Consortium.  They have cool models, they have a nice backstory, and they have a pretty town.
20:05.50Fisker-I agree
20:05.53ckknightpart of me feels bad about showing the teacher that what he taught all of one day was wrong
20:06.09Codayusckknight: But it's a very very small part, right?  :-)
20:06.09chutwigi thought the backstory on them was a little weak
20:06.11ckknightbut the other part would rather be right and not have to explain my homework later
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20:06.27chutwiganother metzen "oh hey here's something TOTALLY NEW!  and ZANY!" deus ex machina stunt
20:06.28ckknightCodayus: IEEE-754 standard, he got the mantissa shuffling wrong
20:06.44ckknightbasically, he was always adding 1 to the exponent
20:06.49CIA-1703mulesh * r26520 10aUF_Layouts/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
20:06.50CIA-17aUF_Layouts: initial commit
20:06.50CIA-17- Custom layouts for ag_UnitFrames
20:07.05ckknightnot big, but it would make all my homework wrong, which is bad
20:07.07AmadeoSpeaking of agUF...pet frames are screwed up still
20:07.11ckknightit'll also horribly confuse the newbies
20:07.35Codayus*nod*
20:07.59CodayusIn the humanities, differences of opinion are fine.  Good even.
20:08.10CodayusIn comp sci?  Not so much.  :-)
20:08.51ckknighthehe
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20:09.13ckknightmeh, the teacher said I was smarter than him before
20:09.17CodayusHeh
20:09.20ckknightwhich in some ways is disconcerting
20:09.28ckknightespecially since he's the chair of the comp sci department
20:09.35CodayusOh dear....
20:10.26chutwighumility is a good thing, though
20:10.38chutwigbetter than a professor you know is dense but refuses to admit it
20:10.51|Pixel|this is disturbing, until you become the teacher yourself =]
20:10.52ckknighthe's not dense, he has some very good ideas
20:10.52Codayus<shrug>
20:11.03jkwckknight: Is it possible to ask for a Cartographer feature? :p
20:11.05ckknightthough I'm not fond of his concept that pi both exist and doesn't exist
20:11.06Amadeo<out of context> ckknight is smarter than a chair!
20:11.10ckknightjkw: I suppose
20:11.11chutwigi'm not saying he's dense
20:11.24CodayusMy brother took a class where the prof said that The Little Mermaid was a sexist plot by Disney to disenfranchise women because, you see, Ariel couldn't TALK.
20:11.25ckknightexists*
20:11.33chutwigthere are a multitude of proverbs that have to do with being able to admit your failings
20:11.34ckknightlol, Codayus
20:11.34CodayusIn a case like that, you grin, nod, and regurgitate it on the final.
20:12.05jkwckknight: I would find it rather nifty if there was a /loc command which you could use to create a pointer at map for that coords. Like: /loc 43.55 <- this makes a little pink fluffy dot at that loc for that zone
20:12.07chutwigsuch is the problem with humanities
20:12.10CodayusIn comp sci though...the compiler doesn't care WHAT you think, and explaining that you think counting from 1 is more *elegant* than 0 doesn't make the off-by-one errors go away....
20:12.12chutwigi did computational linguistics
20:12.15chutwighuge friggin' mistake
20:12.16ckknightjkw: /tloc
20:12.25chutwigevery professor used their class to espouse their own personal viewpoint
20:12.32ckknightjkw: or /way or /note
20:12.37Codayuschutwig: Yep.
20:12.38ckknightdepending on what you're doing
20:13.11ckknightit seems like being a professor would be a sweet gig
20:13.15Codayus(I'm not, by the way, making it up.  The professor claimed that The Little Mermaid was the most sexist movie EVER MADE.)
20:13.21ckknightas far as the ability to demand respect goes
20:13.23chutwigif you like making $35,000 a year for the next 25 years
20:13.25JoshBork1dm
20:13.25JoshBork1hm
20:13.31ckknightCodayus: I liked that movie :-P
20:13.38CodayusSame!
20:13.38ckknightchutwig: yea, that is a downside
20:14.03CodayusThe pay scale of being a prof is awful, but the non-monetary benefits can be great.
20:14.27chutwigthe women, the power, the women
20:14.32ckknightone of my goals is to have a law/postulate/theory named after me
20:14.40|Pixel|21:13 <@ckknight> it seems like being a professor would be a sweet gig
20:14.58ckknightyes, |Pixel|?
20:14.58chutwigi work at a university now as staff and i'd hate to teach
20:14.59|Pixel|I was a PhD studient actually
20:15.02ZacWolfAnyone on the SVN administer group?  My password is no longer working (worked 2 weeks ago).  I sent and email to the list, but no response and trying to check in an update...
20:15.07|Pixel|and I did have to do lectures to students
20:15.15ckknighthow was that?
20:15.19|Pixel|which, somehow, isn't exactly the same as beeing a real teacher
20:15.41|Pixel|but in some extend is still near of beeing one real teacher, as you suddently become "the one that speaks in front"
20:15.50CodayusIs there any group more rigidly hierarchical than professors?
20:15.54|Pixel|it was kinda nice actually :)
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20:16.29CodayusEven the outright leftists tend to abandon every scrap of egalitarian feeling when it comes to say, phd students talking about unionizing to demand getting paid minimum wage or something....
20:16.42|Pixel|luckily, as I was still a student myself, the relation with the other students wasn't as strict as one could think with normal professeors
20:17.28ckknightlousy leftists
20:17.42ZacWolfAnyone on the SVN administer group?  My password is no longer working (worked 2 weeks ago).  I sent and email to the list, but no response and trying to check in an update...
20:18.38ckknightnope.
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20:19.03ckknightCodayus: people are going to act in their own self-interest
20:19.05ckknightit
20:19.11ckknightit's inevitable
20:19.17Codayusyeah
20:19.59ckknightonly after that is achieved will they consider charity or its bastard cousin, social welfare
20:20.39Codayusyup
20:22.28CodayusAnd I don't really see a problem with that.  It's human nature, if nothing else, and damn hard to change.  (Just ask the Soviets just how many New Men they managed to create in the end...)  What bugs me is the people who want other people to be selfless, but refuse to do so in their own lives...  :-/
20:22.54Codayus*cough*  But that's a rant for another time.  :-)
20:23.19ckknight...yep
20:23.21add\\Leialynwtf is up with autobar... in PT3 the id of croissants is correct (22019) but when I shift click the conjured food category it shows the wrong id 29449
20:23.41add\\Leialyncinnamon rolls and others are working
20:23.45ckknightand Bush is the devil, all Americans are idiots, and we're all going to hell in a handbasket
20:23.57CIA-1703mulesh * r26521 10aUF_Layouts/ (. aUF_Layouts.toc):
20:23.57CIA-17aUF_Layouts:
20:23.57CIA-17- Updated revision num in .toc
20:24.19ZacWolfWha?  Is there a new version of "HellInAHandbasket" that I didn't hear about?
20:24.29ckknight:-P
20:24.43ckknightmy father's side of the family is all in New Zealand
20:24.56ckknightthey seem to be firmly in the "America is evil" standpoint
20:25.03CIA-1703ammo * r26522 10Necronomicon2/ (13 files in 3 dirs): Necronomicon2: eol-style set
20:25.07ckknightit gets quite annoying all in all
20:25.22chutwigjust remind them that they're convicts and of what they did to the maoris
20:25.31CodayusI love NZ a lot, but their politics does tend to veer a little...off center at times.
20:25.37ZacWolfyou go gurl!
20:25.47Codayuschutwig: And that's Aussies your thinking of.
20:25.58Codayus(re the convicts crack)
20:26.06jkwckknight: Omg, that was a awesome thing. didn't even know it existed :O
20:26.14chutwigaustralians and kiwis are about as different as americans and canadians
20:26.16chutwigregardless of what they may say
20:26.39ckknightNew Zealand wasn't a penal state.
20:26.45Codayusaussie propganda.  :-)
20:26.56ckknightthough Australians may have immigrated to it, that was not its original purpose
20:27.01chutwigask them about their pet wetas
20:27.37Codayus(And NZ treatment of maori's, while...not so hot at times, was a massive order of magnitude better than Australia's of their aborigines.  Lost Generation ring a bell?)
20:28.26chutwigthe moral of the story is that every group, throughout history, has fucked over another one at least once
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20:28.41ckknightthe Lost Generation only affected at most 10% of the Aboriginal population, they just act as it affected 100%
20:28.49winkillerchutwig: not the french! they always lsot
20:29.03ckknightwinkiller: Napoleon.
20:29.06chutwigwinkiller: they were doing okay up until they tried to invade moscow
20:29.11CodayusWell, he lost EVENTUALLY.
20:29.15chutwigthen things went a little pear-shaped
20:29.19winkiller:P
20:29.48CodayusDon't forget their possesions in indochina either.
20:30.19chutwigindochina sounds so quaint
20:30.26chutwigyou want to say it in the same breath as "ceylon" and "cathay"
20:32.28ckknightKashmir also sounds comfy
20:33.05chutwigkashmir was one of the most beautiful places on earth until they started bombing the hell out of it
20:33.34ckknightthink of the sweaters.
20:33.40chutwigthat's cashmere :3
20:34.14ckknightI know.
20:34.18ckknightthus the joke
20:34.38chutwigahh
20:34.40chutwiga humor joke
20:34.44kergothargh, there are 35 files in current svn trunk with inconsistent line endings and no svn:eol-style
20:35.30chutwigwhat's with the crazy rep you get with exodar for being a draenei
20:35.38chutwiglevel 14 and i'm getting close to revered
20:35.42ckknightchutwig: blood elves, too
20:35.50chutwigi remember when you had to actually work for your friggin' rep
20:35.53ckknightit's just the quests
20:36.02Mikmaawdafwf :P where is ag
20:36.08chutwigi'm a dwarf and i never hit exalted with IF
20:37.33Antiarc|WorkAlterac Valley = IF rep ez mode.
20:37.49Antiarc|WorkJust lootwhore player kills and turn crap in. You can make several thousand rep per game, easily.
20:37.58chutwigi'm really bad at rep grinds
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20:38.08chutwigthe first faction i hit exalted with was ZG and that was about 3 days before BC came out
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20:44.32CIA-1703mikma * r26524 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Padding 50 -> 100, works better with pets now because you can actually adjust the correct padding now
20:46.42deltronkinda funny calling digg retarded makes people digg my comment
20:46.44deltronhttp://www.digg.com/software/PuTTY_0_59_is_out#c4981700 :P
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20:48.09CIA-1703ammo * r26525 10Necronomicon2/Modules/ (Armor.lua Soulstone.lua): Necronomicon2: armor button working, leftclick fel armor, rightclick demon armor. Or leftclick just demon armor/skin depending on rank. Fixed bug in soulstone.
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20:48.59Nivyanany great BuffBars out there? exept ebb, dont think its that customizable
20:49.38[Ammo]try typing /ebb
20:49.41[Ammo]then talk again
20:49.58Nivyanany great BuffBars out there? exept ebb, dont think its that customizable 8(aka. done that already)
20:50.37Gnarfozckknight: where do feature suggestions for Cartographer go? :>
20:50.52ckknightin the wishlist on the wiki
20:50.55Antiarc|Work<PROTECTED>
20:50.58Antiarc|WorkOh, or that.
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20:51.52markvi've got a question to people who use multiple chat windows - are you having issues at all with it not saving the settings of what channels should display to what windows?  i keep having issues with trade and local defense and a couple of other channels popping back up in to my main chat window and still displaying in the other window i had set aside for it.
20:52.05GnarfozAntiarc|Work: :p
20:52.16_neuron_markv, it's blizzard
20:52.30Nivyanif ur in doubt, blame blizzard.
20:52.39markvthat's what i figured, wasn't sure if it came in the last patch or not
20:52.41markvdriving me bonkers
20:52.46_neuron_same :P
20:52.47_neuron_gimme 2 sec
20:53.06_neuron_http://hollowtube.mine.nu/tmp/BlizzChanFix/ :p
20:53.13neeneeIs anyone here using MrPlow with Baggins? Do those two interfere with eachother?
20:53.18_neuron_not much of a fix though, but it works for general/trade etc
20:53.24markvanyone else having issues with fubar mods not displaying properly in the fubar bar?  i keep getting overlap
20:53.56Adirelleneenee: using mrplow with baggins is quite pointless, beside the fact you know your stuff is sorted...
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20:54.55neeneeAdirelle: Well, it's more the stacking I'd use
20:55.14Adirelleoh... should work then
20:55.29Adirellebut if you compress stacks in Baggins you won't see what mrplow does
20:55.51neeneehm. true
20:56.10neeneeI just often run into unstacked things
20:56.15CIA-1703ammo * r26526 10Necronomicon2/Modules/Soulstone.lua: Necronomicon2: soulstone button now creates soulstones.
20:56.43Nivyanis MSBT aced ?
20:56.49kergothNivyan: nope
20:56.57_neuron_no Nivyan, but it'd be slower ace'd anyway
20:57.05_neuron_it's quite lowlevel stuff
20:57.13Nivyanwho, what to pick, sct or msbt?
20:57.45kergothAdirelle: it is annoying using baggins stack compression in some ways.. if you have one stack of 14 and one of 6, with compression, you'll never notice that its taking up two inventory slots, right?  so i could see using msbt to fix that behind the scenes occasionally
20:57.46Nivyanmarkv: update ur fubar ver, then its fixed
20:57.57kergothNivyan: sct vs msbt is largely personal preference.  try both
20:58.01Adirellekergoth: agreed, I disabled it, except for ammos
20:58.12Adirellekergoth: while you are here :D
20:58.15kergother, using mrplow
20:58.17kergothsilly fingers
20:59.01Adirellekergoth: about carto mining/herbalism : (link coming)
20:59.47Adirellekergoth: here it is : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4472.0
21:00.02durcynmarkv: any fubar overlap is due to overflow between left/center/right positioned modules
21:00.08kenlyricmsbt has throttling.
21:00.21Prophyis there a way to show the amt of gold you have when you use baggins??
21:00.27kenlyricif you are a healer or a warlock, you will love msbt.
21:00.30Amadeokergoth: I agree about Baggins...also, reopening the bag after items have changed within can take a while
21:00.42steev64haste: poisons.lua line 264, shouldn't that be function addon:decimalToRoman(d) ?
21:00.42kergoththe one thing i miss when using baggins is a way to equip/unequip bags
21:00.56durcynthe only thing msbt lacks is the low-hp/low-mana noises from sct, which i've patched in :o
21:01.01Prophykergoth: same here
21:01.02kergothneed to pull up the blizzard bags manually and rearrange
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21:01.17Amadeodurcyn: I'm against the sounds :P
21:01.25durcyni prefer 'em, makes two boxing easier
21:01.32kergothyou could make baggings bags to show the real contents of the specific bags, i suppose, and use that to rearrange contents.. then make a macro to show/hide the bartender3 bag bar
21:01.33NeoTronI must admit I preffered how ArkInventory worked
21:01.40NeoTronbut it has the one major flaw of not sorting the items at all
21:01.43Prophyalso if you have a herb bag or enchant bag...u dont really know which bag the item is in...some herbs may not go into the herb bag...
21:01.50kergothbaggins is -so- powerful, i love that about it
21:01.52NeoTronso I can group them but within each grouping it's just random order
21:02.06NeoTronI really HATE how baggings constatnyl moves around "groups" in the bag
21:02.07kergothNeoTron: yea, i hated that about vbagnon too
21:02.11NeoTronmakes it really annoying
21:02.13kergothNeoTron: you can disable that...
21:02.19NeoTronno you can't
21:02.23kergothyes, you can
21:02.24NeoTroneither you have it on and get a sane display
21:02.37NeoTronor you turn it off and you get oen section per row
21:02.43NeoTronwhich is even worse
21:02.49kergothwhat do you expect it to do, read your mind?
21:02.53kergothpick one and live with it
21:02.59NeoTronwork like ArkInventory of EngInventory
21:03.36NeoTronkeep the general areas in ~the same spot
21:03.38durcyni'd like a reacharound while it's down there.
21:03.41AmadeoI'd hate to see the basic "all-in-one" bags die out
21:04.06IndustrialWoo scary pic :o http://tinyurl.com/36tx46
21:04.09NeoTronalso I really only want "all in one" bags, not "any number of virtual bags".
21:04.19NeoTronmaybe I should see about sorting rhe display in ArkInventory instead
21:04.31kergothsounds like you dont want something as flexible as baggins
21:04.37NeoTronI don't no
21:04.52NeoTronArkInventory would be perfect IF each groupoing was sorted
21:05.02kergotha perfect example of why i love baggings flexibility is the key bag
21:05.17kergothit was about 5 minutes of work to move the keys out of the all in one display into its own bag that i only open when i need it
21:05.18_neuron_NeoTron, tried looking at the settings? :P
21:05.25_neuron_iirc arkinventory CAN sort, you just have to enable it
21:05.34NeoTron_neuron_: I failed to find it, but I might have missed it
21:05.41NeoTronmight have to look again
21:05.45AmadeoCan you disable character item tracking in Ark?
21:06.02AmadeoI don't care about seeing what my alts have in their inventories
21:06.10NeoTronsee to me that's another point for ark
21:06.16NeoTronI love that feature
21:06.43AmadeoI never use it, and I hate big savedvariable files
21:06.59kergothi'd rather use sanity2 for that
21:08.00NeoTronok looking at the source, ArkInventory does have an option for sorting. I'll check for it tonight
21:09.02NeoTronseems like it even has better sortign options than baggins
21:09.48Nivyanhow do I open the nQuestLog options?
21:10.49Nivyanhow do MOVE or do anything with nQuestLog?
21:11.26chutwigdrag the border
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21:11.54AmadeoHow much does a basic flying mount cost?
21:11.56Amadeonot the training
21:11.59chutwig200g, i think
21:12.06AmadeoThank ya
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21:12.19kenlyric100g
21:12.22kenlyricepic is 200g
21:12.30Amadeothank ya also
21:12.31Amadeohaha
21:12.34Gnarfozyay, feature request done :D
21:12.47chutwigthis castbar thing is quite a mystery
21:12.55chutwigwhy would the aguf castbar move smoothly on a mac but not on a pc :gonk:
21:13.18_neuron_Nivyan, theres a fubar icon, rightclick on it
21:13.24AmadeoagUF has a few quirks in it that bug me
21:13.33AmadeoI see some kind of bar show up when I attack targets at times
21:13.34_neuron_and dragging is a bit hard, drag the outside of the frame, it's thin atm, I will add an anchor ;)
21:13.37Amadeobelow the target frame
21:13.41chutwigthat seems like something that would be the fault of the underlying lua implementation
21:13.44chutwigtimer accuracy or something
21:13.45Prophyany differences from Arkinventory and Baggins???
21:13.50Amadeoand party pets still don't work
21:14.01chutwigparty pets work for me, they're just aligned kind of off
21:14.09chutwigand i think i saw a commit go in that had to do with that
21:14.15Amadeomine are all over the place
21:14.20Amadeoand they move randomly
21:14.25chutwigthey don't honor the width that i set, though
21:14.26JoshBork1mine just don't align properly
21:14.39chutwiglike i set a width and then it goes okay and makes the party pet frame as wide as it was before
21:14.47chutwigbut i don't really care about that too much
21:14.53AmadeoI had a party pet show up to the right of the Priests frame, then later it appeared up by my target frame
21:14.54chutwigi just hate chunky castbar >:(
21:18.09AmadeoUnit Frames must be the most difficult addons to code, because none of them seem to work right :)
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21:19.05ckknightpretty much
21:19.15ckknightsince Blizzard fucked us all with the secure frames
21:19.25AmadeoNot to say they don't work at all, but there are things that are always broken in them - any of them
21:19.42AmadeoEven before that, though
21:19.47CIA-1703ammo * r26528 10Necronomicon2/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Necronomicon2: better texture handling, soulstone now properly desaturated when you have none in your inventory.
21:19.52AmadeoI don't recall ever using a unit frame addon that didn't have problems
21:20.10chutwigsuch is life
21:20.43steev64i used perl without issue for a very long time
21:21.04chutwigi remember trying discord briefly and what a comedy cavalcade that was
21:21.06steev64and when i have had issues, usually deleting the sv file fixed it
21:21.20kergothAdirelle: re cart minign/herbalism, thats a good idea, they shuld be merged, do you have a list of shared spawns?
21:21.38Amadeosteev64: I guess I can't comment on any of the Perls out there, I never got into them
21:21.45kenlyricmerged, huh?
21:22.00Adirellekergoth: not handy, but I can find one, at least should I build one
21:22.01ThorgardPCUF has had the least amount of problems for me when it comes to unit frames. Using agUF now, though, for its sheer sexiness.
21:22.17kergothAdirelle: it'll go in if you can find one or create one
21:22.44Amadeobrb
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21:24.19Gnarfozyou're not talking about merging the actual addons _Herbalism and _Mining, are you oO
21:24.24kergothno
21:24.33kergothmerging spawn point info for things that share spawn points
21:24.38Gnarfozerr
21:24.39kergothlike what... tin/silver
21:24.42Gnarfozah
21:25.18Gnarfozto counter those "two nodes on top of each other, making the tooltip of one of them unreadable/unreachable" situations?
21:26.48CIA-1703kergoth * r26529 10/trunk/ (34 files in 28 dirs): .Fixing up some screwed up line ending fixups.. sorry folks, my fixup script incorrectly fixed the files with inconsistent line endings. This is the first pass of fixups for those.
21:27.06kergothfixups for the fixups, whee
21:27.52_neuron_svn -m "fixing line endings" commit ; write root "Watch all of em go crazy now, it'll be hilarius"
21:28.04kergothlol
21:28.08kergothdont give me ideas, man
21:28.12_neuron_:p
21:29.27durcyn~seen [Ammo]
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21:29.54chutwigunix line endings for everyone
21:30.19CIA-1703kergoth * r26530 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): .Fixups for the fixups, pass 2.
21:30.47kergoth[Ammo]: think that fixed all of the damage on the trunk
21:31.00kergothfeel free to hit me with something if not
21:31.08[Ammo]no problem :)
21:32.41durcyn[Ammo]: necro2 is looking good.  any chance of adding ritual of souls? =)
21:32.51_neuron_wtb screenshot :p
21:32.58[Ammo]it's crappy atm
21:33.08[Ammo]working on it though
21:33.15durcynit's still better than henge or necrosis
21:33.16kergoth[Ammo]: i cheated and compared the number of lines in the file before the change and in trunk, and if it was still double, i generated a reverse patch of the changes i did to those files and applied the patch
21:33.17[Ammo]ritual of souls = healthstone thingy right?
21:33.21durcynayup.
21:33.22NeoTronyes
21:33.29[Ammo]I don't have it yet on my lock
21:33.29kergothso if the patch failed, i knew somebody mustve made a change after the screwup,and itd require manual attention
21:33.31[Ammo]only 66 :)
21:33.32kergothseemed to work
21:33.36[Ammo]cool kergoth
21:33.39durcynwell, stop coding addons and level more!
21:33.41durcyner.. damn.
21:33.41[Ammo]appreciate the effort :)
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21:34.04kergothits my own fault, and its my responsibility to correct the damage that was done, intentional or no
21:34.09NeoTronis necro similar to necrosis?
21:34.11kergoth(not, in this case :P)
21:34.43NeoTronand if so, does it have the main feature I use necrosis for - destroying shards outside the soul shard bag? :)
21:35.13durcyndestroying shards is what shadowburn is for
21:35.17_neuron_haha
21:35.17durcyn=)
21:35.20chutwigscherbenzerstörung
21:35.24[Ammo]NeoTron: yes it destroys shards outside the soulshard bag
21:35.25[Ammo]BUT
21:35.28[Ammo]I haven't tested it yet :p
21:35.33[Ammo]it was all drycoded a few hours ago
21:35.37_neuron_tbh I want a system like necrosis, but one that I can add all stuff I dont need immediate access to, including water/food
21:35.48NeoTroncool
21:36.01durcyn_neuron_: sprocket =(
21:36.04NeoTronmaybe I'll check it out
21:36.09durcynmay it rest in peace.
21:36.16_neuron_durcyn, never noticed that addon :P
21:36.22durcynit doesn't work in 2.0.
21:36.34_neuron_kergoth, it was so broke not too long ago, and caused major lagg
21:36.37_neuron_and for quite a long time
21:36.42durcynwhile it was around though, it was a thing of beauty.  imagine hotkeyed pop-up radial menus for everything.
21:36.48_neuron_and I kinda like a small circular design with popup menu's
21:36.57_neuron_yeah I think I've seen that
21:36.58kergothhmm never noticed the lag, will have to experiment
21:37.08durcynit took me back to NWN's awesome spell interface, but even more sexy.
21:37.14[Ammo]just tested it and it destroys shards outside of the soulbag :)
21:37.24durcynalas, it is dead now.
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21:37.27[Ammo]it didn't touch my epix :)
21:37.39_neuron_durcyn, that works for stuff you dont need fast access to, but god damn it's useless for fast access to things :P
21:38.07durcyn_neuron_: not so.  i usually play with left hand on keyboard and right hand on mouse, so i'd hotkey a sprocket menu then twitch the mouse over it, almost like gestures
21:38.12NeoTronI wish there was a way to get autobar to remove stuff you no longer have
21:38.18NeoTronlike when you use your health stone
21:38.20durcynalt-t, mouse right was healthstone, fex
21:38.24_neuron_hotkeys is still faster though
21:38.40durcynyes, but it's great for conjuring stones and summoning demons
21:38.42kergothNeoTron: it does, it just cant in combat, since it cant manipulate those secure frames in combat, afaik
21:38.48NeoTronkergoth: I know
21:38.56NeoTronI'm aware of why and it's unfortunately
21:38.58NeoTronunfortunate
21:39.11NeoTronhowever it SHOULD be able to fade out / overlay entries that you cannot use I think
21:39.17steev64so, I've been reading about RegisterForDrag - and it says im supposed to use an XML file, so I cracked open agUF's xml file to see what it does - and I am not seeing any StartMoving() in there - do I *need* the xml file or whats the deal with that?
21:39.19NeoTronlike with cooldown counts / out of range type display
21:39.29durcynNeoTron: the popup works still, but the default button and keybind can't change in lockdown
21:39.32winkillerhehe... "I need to stop drinking, when the hell did I level?"
21:39.54NeoTrondurcyn: the popup still shows all things, even if I used the item and no longer has it. anda gain, I do know why
21:39.58durcynNeoTron: it should be dimmed if you have omincc/cooldowncount installed
21:40.04NeoTronhrm
21:40.08Tekkubokey, this should be fucking illegal
21:40.11NeoTronI swear I have CDC
21:40.24durcynand i swear she told me she was 18
21:40.34Tekkubsending mail specifically designed to look like a tax document just to get people to open it
21:40.40Tekkuband it's a fucking car loan ad
21:41.07NeoTronalas thus is the way of the spak
21:41.12NeoTrons/spak/spam/
21:41.15Finer, I think that actually is illegal isn't it?
21:41.36NeoTronit's also illegal to so pump and dump stock schemes
21:41.43NeoTronyet a large amount of spam is just that
21:41.47kenlyricfraud is illegal in m ost places, yes.
21:42.12Finalso! downloading copyrighted material from the internets
21:42.34CIA-1703rabbit * r26531 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Keep the scan table local to the module instance, not the prototype.
21:43.14CIA-1703kagaro * r26532 10/branches/kagaro/: added my branch
21:43.20Finstalking isn't illegal though!
21:43.37CIA-1703kagaro 07Talismonger-3.0 * r26533 10kagaro/: Talismonger-3.0: added my bracnh for testing cde changes
21:43.47steev64nothing is illegal until you get caught
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21:44.05steev64so, anyone? creating a draggable frame? i need an xml file or no?
21:44.09Finand if you say you were sneezing at the time, they have to let you off running a red light
21:44.14anenigmagah.  why is wowace window 9 now :/
21:44.31vhaarrkergoth: Are you committing fixes to the double line endings I'm seeing in mods that you fixed previously with svn:eol-style?
21:44.35steev64anenigma: because window 2 is your msg to nickserv
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21:44.51kergothvhaarr: yes, i'm fixing the double line endings which remain in trunk
21:45.02kergoththe ones that were already fixed by the devs i'm leaving alone of course
21:45.03vhaarrkergoth: Alright, sweet.
21:45.14kergothpretty sure i caught all the ones in trunk, so if you find any, let me know
21:45.22vhaarrkergoth: DeuceLog.
21:45.26_neuron_[Ammo], feature request, dunno the layout etc yet, but if you got a fel armor button, make it light up or something when I've forgotten to cast it :P
21:45.48vhaarrkergoth: It's one of those where I already had it set to LF, but you changed to native and then back again.
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21:46.06vhaarrI think.
21:46.35FinI was wondering about that, what is the correct entry in the svn client config file for *.lua eol-style
21:46.46kergoththats up to the developer
21:46.51vhaarrkergoth: No, apparently not, I had never set svn:eol-style on it, but anyway, it has double line endings now.
21:47.06kergothwhen you check out th efile, do you want it to be \n everywhere, or do you want it in dos endigns when checked out under windows
21:47.06Finso it doesn't matter to the user?
21:47.17kergothvhaarr: what is it?
21:47.25vhaarrkergoth: DeuceLog.
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21:48.59anenigmasteev64: actually, nickserv stuff stays in 1.  irssi had a blank window for wowace which is /layout save'd, but it didn't use it for some reason
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21:49.51Finanenigma: arg! I spent ages trying to get irssi's layout right, it's a pain in the tits, good luck
21:50.06steev64defaults ftw
21:50.24Finnever!
21:50.38anenigmaI give up :)  I'ma let it do what it wants
21:50.41Fincustomisation ftw
21:50.51chutwigirssi is of its own mind
21:50.55Fin-ftw+ruleZ, ok?
21:50.57steev64Fin: say taht after you are in 40 some channles
21:51.00steev64channels even
21:51.09deltronhttp://code.google.com/p/epgp/wiki/WhatIsEPGP_v2 <-- anyone ever take a look at that?
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21:51.41Finencryption?
21:51.56Finsteev64: taht after you are in 40 channles
21:52.06Fin10 points to me for hilarity!
21:53.28steev64Because effort points are decoupled from effort points it is easier to assign "good" values for each category.
21:53.38steev64what?
21:53.41Finohhh, it's a loot distribution system
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21:54.24Finyou said, "say taht after you are in 40 channles", so I did, which was a Funny Joke and I get 10 points
21:54.35steev64you fail at comedy
21:54.43FinI will crush you
21:54.46steev64but, my what was about what I pasted
21:55.08steev64effort points are decoupled from effort points...
21:55.54NeoTronjust learned why a friend isn't at work today
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21:56.06NeoTronshe stayed up past 7am to get to 70. :P
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21:56.46Moksbu: i have to register to send priv msgs, pls wait ^^
21:56.56sbuoh
21:56.59sbuok :)
21:57.37Arrowmasterlol i think PT3 might have a bug, i see a piece of armor listed under Consumable>Food>Edible>Basic>Non-Conjured
21:57.50kergothyummy
21:58.22TainIs it candy armor?
21:59.23CIA-1703ammo * r26534 10Necronomicon2/ (Locales/enUS.lua Modules/Soulstone.lua): Necronomicon2: soulstone button now places the soulstone if you click it after creating one. Does not take combat lockdown in account for attribute setting yet.
22:00.38Arrowmasterits itemid 29314 looks like a quest reward
22:01.45OverlordQyup
22:01.51CIA-1703rabbit * r26535 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix the slot IDs.
22:01.56Moksub: grmbl, i dont feel like registering -.-
22:02.11Moks/sub/sbu
22:02.17Moks/sub/sbu/
22:02.18ZealotOnAStickAmmo - where does Necronomicon actually show up on screen?
22:02.22Moklol
22:02.31ZealotOnAStickI tried it about an hour ago . . . and I couldn't seem to find where it actually was.
22:02.32[Ammo]somewhere southwest :p
22:02.42[Ammo]I think
22:02.44[Ammo];)
22:02.48sbuMok: huh?
22:02.50sbuMok: not working>?
22:02.52[Ammo]alt-drag to move each separate button
22:03.24[Ammo]I'm still working on a lot of stuff for it
22:03.31Arrowmasterlol going through pt3browser querying server for all the foods and i finally found one that disconnected me
22:04.12ZealotOnAStickWhat's the strata level on it?  I wonder if it's under my buttons or something.
22:05.31[Ammo]no idea
22:05.34[Ammo]I didn't set any strata
22:05.38[Ammo]it's heavy alpha :p
22:05.47[Ammo]but I suggest updating to most recent one
22:05.52[Ammo]because an hour ago it didn't show buttons at all
22:05.57CIA-1703rabbit * r26536 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix the slots disabling after creating a new set.
22:06.55[Ammo]buttons are using default action bar textures atm
22:07.09[Ammo]because I'm fixing functionality before visuals
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22:10.21ZacWolfAnyone with SVN Administration privs on yet?  My user/pass isn't working to allow me to update my mod... :(
22:11.08steev64so
22:11.28steev64how that that chick is level 70 - what is she gonna do for the next year til the next expansion comes out?
22:11.37steev64s/how/now/
22:12.01TainRep grind!
22:12.13CIA-1703ammo * r26537 10Necronomicon2/Modules/SoulShard.lua: Necronomicon2: last tweak for tonight, green if shards above threshold. red if below.
22:15.52ckknightcya all later
22:17.40Mikmahttp://www.apple.com/appletv/
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22:19.52Adirellekergoth: about rare spawns : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4472.msg79238#msg79238
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22:26.08[Ammo]kergoth: acolyte is less efficient :p
22:26.13[Ammo]but I'm not done yet
22:26.21AmadeoAnyone familiar with KDE?
22:26.30[Ammo]time for bed
22:26.50TainSomewhat, Amadeo.  Although I don't spend a lot of time in it.
22:27.23AmadeoYou know the mouseover tooltips when you move your mouse over a taskbar window or item...kind of a large rectangular bubble that fades in?
22:27.35AmadeoThey annoy me to no end, and I'm not sure where to adjust that
22:28.10ZealotOnAStickAmmo - I'm just hoping for everything that a warlock needs other than Timers/dot tracking, for shard management/summons/armors, including HS Trades.
22:28.16ZealotOnAStickI'd love to ditch ShardAce for something better.
22:29.01_neuron_*mumble* um... anyone know how to enable/disable showing the popup on quest progress whenever you get a quest item etc? (yellow thing in the middle of the screen)?
22:29.04TainAh I don't know, Amadeo.  I know that different visual settings are in different places.
22:29.08_neuron_I've managed to turn it off, and I'm not quite sure how :P
22:29.20Amadeohehe
22:29.30AmadeoNo problem :) I like to dig around
22:29.38AmadeoI'm an expert at breaking things
22:31.57chutwigi am going to slap wau if it breaks my addons again
22:32.37Amadeochutwig: I noticed that I was having problems with externals when I used the new F12 thing
22:32.47Amadeothat was beta 2, but I haven't done it in 3 again
22:32.48chutwigAmadeo: i just logged in and got no less than 218 errors
22:32.59AmadeoCartographer?
22:33.07chutwigpretty much everything is broken
22:33.13Amadeostrange
22:33.15chutwigagUF, bartender, fubar, you name it
22:33.32axxoget a clue, and stop complaining
22:34.35PogoTribalF12?
22:34.35NeoTronI use Extended Quest Log 3
22:34.44chutwigno need to be angry, mate, i'll work it out
22:34.46NeoTronit's nice and has various config options for notification
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22:34.51chutwigyeah, i like EQL3
22:35.22CIA-1703kergoth * r26538 10/trunk/ (18 files in 15 dirs): .Fixups for the fixups pass 3.
22:35.32NeoTronso what is the difference between update with externals and without?
22:35.37NeoTronI never quite understood that part
22:35.40NeoTronseems to do the same thing
22:36.04renchapwith externals : libs are embedded in each addon
22:36.05kergothvhaarr: okay, that should be it
22:36.11renchapwithout : you must install the libs
22:36.30NeoTronso how does that work?
22:36.41NeoTrondoesn't it just download a zip file and unzips it?
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22:38.10renchapthere is one zip with externals and another without for each addon
22:38.37NeoTronah ok
22:38.39NeoTronmakes sense
22:38.58Barbanuschutwig, update with externals, dont use the "Update All Addons"
22:38.59NeoTronis there some process that automatically generates two versions of the toc file too?
22:39.12Barbanusthe update all addons updates without externals.
22:39.17vhaarrkergoth: nice
22:39.19BarbanusI found that out the hard way last night.
22:39.21chutwigBarbanus: i did, i cleared it all out and resynced
22:39.24chutwigand now all is well
22:40.00Barbanusyea, it annoyed me as well... then I started digging and found all of the libs dirs empty
22:40.03Barbanusthen it made sense
22:40.03PogoTribalIf you want flawless performance (respectively), just do With Externals
22:40.23PogoTribalI don't think all the developers are on the ball with the libraries.
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22:40.26chutwigyeah, i figured it out when i looked at the errors and saw all the libraries missing
22:40.44NeoTronis it up to the individual developers to update the external libraries or is that automated too?
22:40.54BarbanusPogoTribal, well there is a new option in WAU at the top that says "update all installed addons"
22:41.13Barbanuswhich does without externals, but doesnt state which it is doing ;)
22:41.32ZacWolfFlawless performance "With Externals"?  I thought using "centralized" (aka Without Externals) resulted in quick load time because it doesn't have to parse all the individual "lib" files?
22:41.53Barbanuscynyr, then you dont understand how it works :) without externals just speeds up your initial loadtime .. effects nothing after that.
22:42.13Barbanusit doesnt effect your "ingame performance"
22:42.25NeoTrondo the ace libraries typically load on demand?
22:42.44kergothNeoTron: any embed should be set to LoD, so that if no addon uses it, but its in your addons dir, it wont load.
22:42.59NeoTronwould be nice to have an option to separate libraries from normal addons and have it automatically download/delete libraries you need
22:43.03NeoTronor don't need
22:43.25CIA-1703mok * r26539 10GemList/ (. GemList.lua localization.lua):
22:43.25CIA-17GemList:
22:43.26CIA-17- fixed externals
22:43.26CIA-17- Jewelcrafting panel should recognized properly
22:44.06NeoTronthe main problems with "without externals" is that figuring out exactly what is needes is a painful iterative process
22:44.07cynyrBarbanus: every time i zoned(BG's) i had about a 3 minute wait, i switched to no externals and bam down to about 30 second
22:44.16cynyrNeoTron: yep :)
22:44.26cynyrNeoTron: and actully i just read the TOC's
22:44.37Barbanuscynyr, your addons are not reloaded on zoning.
22:45.10Barbanusall of the "extra" libs are thrown out right after you login to the game .. and are GC'd ... so it doesnt effect any performance besides your initial login time.
22:45.12ZacWolfI wouldn't say it's "iterative" beyond possibly adding a new addon that might require a new addon.  I just select "select installed addons" and update without externals.
22:45.25kergothAdirelle: isnt swiftthisle just looted out of the mageroyal/briarthorn spot, not atually seen as a swiftthistle spot in the world?
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22:45.37Barbanuskergoth, you are correct.
22:46.21NeoTronZacWolf: iterative because you need to 1) add addon, 2) load and see which libs are needed, 3) add missing libs, 4) reload and see what libs those added libs needed etc
22:46.21kergoththought so, so its not a factor in cart's modules.. same with wildvine..
22:46.21NeoTronand Eternium it would seem
22:46.21Barbanuskergoth, exactly
22:46.36Adirellekergoth: maybe, I'm not herbalist :)
22:46.54NeoTronI wonder if they have an automated process to place node spawns on the map or if they do it all manually
22:47.03Mokis it possible that an addon doesnt get listet on files.wowac.com because of a number in its name?
22:47.06NeoTronI mean when they define where spawns should go
22:47.19BarbanusNeoTron, I would assume they run around on a character hitting a macro.
22:47.27ZacWolfNeoTron:  Just manually read the TOC and it tells you when ones you need....
22:47.47kergothnearly every file in nquestlog had inconsistent line endings
22:47.48kergothsome dos, some unix
22:47.56Barbanuskergoth, haha
22:48.11NeoTronBarbanus: they might do that yes
22:48.18chutwigchange them to classic macintosh line endings and make everyone unhappy
22:48.25ZacWolfkergoth, do you have a script that runs to check line endings because I see your name as the "last change" on my addons.
22:48.35NeoTronZacWolf: sure but that's not handy :P
22:48.58kergothZacWolf: yep, i have  a script to ensure that every file has svn:eol-style property set and does not have inconsiisten endings
22:49.28ZacWolfNeo: Not handy?  {shrug} seems more "handy" than iterative logins....
22:49.38ZacWolfWhat should the eol-style property be set to?
22:49.39NeoTronperhaps
22:49.41kergothi advise that everyone learn about svn autoprops
22:49.42ZacWolfOr what are the "options"
22:51.50BarbanusI believe everything is set to svn:eol-style native
22:52.56ZacWolfI have my editor set to unix style, but I edit from Windows.  What should I set my eol-style property to?
22:52.59CIA-1703kergoth * r26540 10/trunk/ (142 files in 52 dirs): .Line ending fixups.. yes, we've had a ton of new files without eol-style and a number of files with inconsistent endings just in the past week or so.
22:53.24nymbiahow are inconsistent files getting past the script?
22:53.35BarbanusZacWolf, http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch07s02.html, search for "This causes the file to contain the EOL markers"
22:53.39Barbanusand read :)
22:53.54kergothnymbia: we dont check files on commit. we cant modify anything in a commit hook
22:54.02Finhttp://pgl.yoyo.org/wow/bits/lovesackbaby.txt
22:54.19nymbiakergoth: ah
22:54.31kergothwe could abort the commit if they add a file witout the property, and then we'll get to listen to devs bitching in the irc annel about not being able to commit
22:55.19BarbanusZacWolf, if you are using a windows version of svn, it will convert the line breaks to CRLF, and when you commit, they are actually stored on the SVN server as LF, and when a unix user checks out, they will see LF breaks.
22:55.36kergothif he wants lf everywhere, just set eol-style to LF, right?
22:55.47kergothpretty sure thats what vhaar does for closetgnome
22:56.01Barbanuskergoth, yep
22:56.08ZacWolfok, that's what I'll do.
22:56.40_neuron_kergoth, that's saved with gedit, there's no reason why that should have inconsistent line endings..
22:57.03kergothwell, every file in nquestlog had them
22:57.18kenlyriclet's just kidnap linus and bill and make them come to an agreement.
22:57.27Barbanuskergoth, you mean inconsistent between files in the same project, yes?
22:57.31kergothi can point out the exact line numbers with differing endings if you really want
22:57.32kergothno.
22:57.38chutwigkenlyric: LF is the One True Way anyway
22:57.39kergothi mean one file with some lines dos  some lines unix
22:57.44kergothit breaks merges
22:57.48Barbanuskergoth, ahh .. even worse.
22:57.54kergothyes, much
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22:58.19_neuron_well every file in that project is saved with gedit, it should not do anything funky with the line endings at all.. that's really odd
22:58.50kergothdid anyone else make minor bugfixes to your code withjout your knowledge?
22:59.10_neuron_not to my knowledge :P
22:59.18nymbiajust grab an editor that lets you see the linebreak characters
22:59.19kergoththats the most common cause.
22:59.27_neuron_I'll svn up and look at it kergoth
22:59.29_neuron_thanks for letting me know
22:59.30kergothone person on one os and another on another editing the same file without eol-style
22:59.37kergothits already fixed, but you can look at the diff
22:59.40_neuron_yeah
22:59.51Trancervim settings ftw
23:00.08kergothTrancer: agreed
23:00.12Thrae^M just stands for More Flavour!
23:00.18Fincould a standard eol-style be recommended for Ace2 addons, maybe?
23:00.37kergothFin: 95% of the repository uses native.
23:00.41kergothi'd say thats the defacto standard already
23:00.42Finneither is correct, but just in the interests of less breakages?
23:00.49nymbianative works just peachy in most cases
23:00.51kergoth?
23:01.02kergothneither shows your ignorance of the property.  it can have more than 2 values
23:01.03TainI use an umlaut as my eol marker
23:01.09Finkergoth: you're probably right, but I didn't find anything recommending that on the wiki (I may have just not searched hard enough)
23:01.19Leaf_ArchimondeHello. If anyone is good at secure action buttons, i have a question. I have crearted a button with 2 states and want it to do something in one state and don't do anything at second one. So i set "statebutton" as "0:S0;1:S1", "*type*" as "action" and "action-S0" as action slot ID. In state 0 all is ok, action slot is clicked. BUT. In state 2 button calls some weird bind i don't set for it ;(. I have examined SecureTemplates lua and found
23:01.30PogoTribalGuy's what's the mod right above the castbar here: http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1175/wowscrnshot0121072153466bj.jpg
23:01.39ThraeFin: We don't expect people to use Microsoft Word to code.
23:01.42Tornhoofleaf
23:01.48Tornhoofyou can set it to some NOP command
23:01.51Tornhooflemme find
23:01.59kergoth'native' means that if the file is checked out under windows, itthe working copy version has dos line endings.  if its checked out under unix, the working copy has unix newlines.  in the repository, internally, its newlines, but what it is internally doesnt matter, it translates
23:02.14winkillerThrae: it's quite hardcore tbh
23:02.19Trancerthat's yet another version of necrosis PogoTribal
23:02.32Trancerthe priest version is called Serenity afaik
23:02.34TrancerMage version, dunno
23:02.36FinThrae: true, but, eg, I had my settings to use windows line breaks on certain projects because I was constantly breaking stuff at a place where everyone else used them
23:02.46nymbiawhatever, coding in MS word 4 lyfe.
23:02.51ThraeNecrosis -- because it kills your interface.
23:03.06winkillerI have "emotebuttons"
23:03.06Tornhoofleaf_archimonde, use ATTRIBUTE_NOOP as an action value
23:03.09kergothFin: get a good editor, and it wont matter.
23:03.23winkillerFin: SciTE is nice
23:03.43kergotha good editor can handle unix or dos style, the only thing thatll break it or cause problems with it is inconsistent endings within a single file
23:03.46Finkergoth: I've got one :) I was really just thinking that it might help in some way for people who are still learning, that's all
23:03.46kergothwhich is why we set eol-style
23:03.51kergothwhat its set to shouldnt matter.
23:03.57kergothnative makes it easiest
23:04.02kergoththen windows folks can edit them with notepad if they want
23:04.22TrancerPogoTribal: serenit will probly work for you anyway
23:04.56TrancerPogoTribal: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3743/serenity/ some info about it there.. with screenie and bla
23:05.10Finyou are right of course, but a note somewhere might help someone who doesn't already know this and is checking settings to try and avoid breaking stuff
23:05.19Thraewww.wowace.com/files has a "generic Necrosis-like interface"
23:05.41Fin-n
23:05.55Finwhich mysteriously disappeared last reboot, weird
23:06.01kergothi'll add it to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules
23:06.04Barbanuskergoth, you should get the auto-props config set to make lua and toc files automatically eol-style native
23:06.17winkilleryou all seem so motivated.
23:06.20winkillerwow :P
23:06.30kergothBarbanus: you mean like the config i already have?
23:06.36kergothpost it on the wiki?
23:06.42Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: Thanks. Follow-up question. For example, "shift-action-S0" is set to slot 80. What actions do i need to set ATTRIBUTE_NOOP in order for all other modification of S0 and all modifications of S1 produces nothing?
23:06.59Barbanuskergoth, heh
23:07.29CIA-1703kergoth * r26541 10/trunk/ (552 files in 552 dirs): .Line ending fixups in .toc files (they werent in my .subversion/config autoprops)
23:08.18Tornhoof*action-S0 and *action-S1 i think
23:08.30Finwinkiller: SciTE rules! I've been using it for ages, it was great to find out how Luatastic it is when I started fiddling with addons :)
23:08.43winkillerhehe
23:08.50Tornhoofjust place that above ally our specific rules and it should work
23:09.06BarbanusFin, heh yea I didnt expect it to support lua
23:09.06winkillerI prefer Notepad2 for everyday work nowadays though
23:09.06winkilleralso scintilla
23:09.06Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: Sorry, already found!  local value = frame:GetAttribute(prefix..name..suffix) or frame:GetAttribute("*"..name..suffix) or frame:GetAttribute(prefix..name.."*") or frame:GetAttribute("*"..name.."*") or frame:GetAttribute(name); explains the order ;)
23:09.33Finis scintilla actually written in Lua?
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23:09.49Tornhoofyeh leaf that's right
23:09.57Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: so basically <Defined Modifier>-action-<Defined state> always has priority over *action-<Defined State> ;))
23:09.58Finguess not
23:10.15Finvim, though, still rules, OK
23:10.18Fin-s+Z
23:10.29Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: So i need to set *action* to ATTRIBUTE_NOOP and specific actions to specific action slots. Kewl.
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23:14.19Tornhoofyes leaf that's how i understood it atleast
23:17.43Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: but it don't woorking - i found a protection in code to preserve random generator:  if ( value == ATTRIBUTE_NOOP ) then value = nil; end ;((((
23:18.06Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: maybe, just set " " (space) as an action? NOOP is ""
23:18.17Tornhoofdunno
23:19.03Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: fires error 'UseAction() usage" ;((
23:20.53Leaf_ArchimondeTornhoof: Bingo! oWnd:SetAttribute("*action*", 0); works like magic ;). All modifiers and states i set after this are working, and if nothing is set for current modifier-state it just... do nothing. As planned ;)
23:23.23Tornhooffine
23:23.57[dRaCo]is there a way to check if an item is equipped in a macro?
23:25.18Thrae[dRaCo]: [equipped:itemname]
23:25.18[dRaCo]great, thanks
23:26.44ZacWolfkergoth, you still around?
23:27.46RUBiKquick dumb question.. do i need PeriodicTable and PeriodicTable-2.0 and PeriodicTable-3.0? or is PT3 a superset of PT+PT2?
23:27.57RUBiKor.. why are there 3?
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23:29.36kergothZacWolf: somewhat. whats up>?
23:29.43MyrathiMornin' folks.
23:29.56NightHawkTheSaneRUBiK: you dont need any of them on their own, mods you use will include what they need
23:29.58FinRUBiK: I was wondering that also, I think the answer is that PT3 is intended to be a replacement for PT2 (which *is* a replacement for PT1), but I got the impression it wasn't yet?
23:30.11NightHawkTheSaneIf you're developing, then I think PT3 is a replacement for pT2
23:31.32MyrathiAnyone here able to answer questions about FuBar module development? (specifically re: menus)
23:32.26RUBiKahhh got it, thanks
23:34.30[dRaCo]hm
23:34.42MyrathiGotta wonder how files end up with varying EOL types anyway. O_o
23:34.44Finmaybe a bit :)
23:34.44[dRaCo][equipped:<name>] doesnt work
23:35.21FinI'm currently feeling a bit stupid because I can't seem to use SVN properly, there's some things that just aren't obvious
23:35.27[dRaCo]the readme only gives [equipped:<type>]
23:35.43WraithanAny decent editor doesn't care if it is CR/LF or CR or LF it should figure it out
23:35.51kergothMyrathi: usually when someone with a not very capable editor edits a file that isnt their native endings
23:36.15FinWraithan: not just regarding line endings :)
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23:36.21MyrathiYeh. If a file comes in as Unix, it should go out as Unix. Same for Win or Mac files. /shrug
23:37.01WraithanMyrathi: shouldn't mater to what ever editor they are using truly
23:37.14FinI'm not sure editors should really autofix line endings in files that are mixed anyway..?
23:37.33WraithanFin: again, shouldn't mater :D
23:37.37Finunless specified
23:37.38kergothvim certainly doesnt.  if its mixed, i just see the extra chars
23:37.39FinWraithan: no, true
23:37.51Finvim is specifically what I was thinking about
23:37.54MyrathiAutofix? No. But any decent editor, these days, has a "convert Unix->Win" or some such. Not exactly hard to manually fix it.
23:38.04Finsure! if you're aware of the problem
23:38.17chutwigif you know what seeing tons of ^M in your file means
23:38.24MyrathiHeh.
23:38.27Wraithanif you aren't then you shouldn't be coding you should be learning the basics of computers
23:38.42FinI'm not sure having a decent editor is that much help if you don't know about the issue itself
23:38.44MyrathiLine-ending variances aren't "basics" ;)
23:38.46chutwigin my experience programmers tend to be kind of oblivious to a lot of things
23:39.06chutwigbut i'm just an angry sysadmin
23:39.08Finsome people don't! they'll just start using another editor :)
23:39.15MyrathiThen again, even my mom recognises weird line-endings. :P
23:39.16kergothi'm thinking we should install thttp://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/hook-scripts/check-mime-type.pl
23:39.22Finheh
23:39.30MyrathiAnd she's over 50. <_<
23:39.31kergothensures thtat every file has an mime type set, and every file thats text has eol-style
23:39.40kergothaborts the commit of new files if its missing them
23:39.45WraithanMyrathi: knowing what the 2 most popular OSes use as EOLs should be pretty standard knowledge
23:39.49FinI used to be an angry sysadmin
23:39.53Leaf_Archimonde!seen ckknight
23:40.04chutwigi may not always be a sysadmin but i will always be angry
23:40.06Leaf_ArchimondeIs it any !seen command on this channel ?
23:40.14MyrathiWraithan: One would hope. :)
23:40.17kergothi went from angry tech support to angry developer
23:40.20kergothi wasnt angry before tech support
23:40.22kergothbig surprise
23:40.24kergoth:P
23:40.27chutwigi do pretty much everything right now
23:40.40Myrathitechsup will do that to ya =)
23:40.48Wraithantech support is like running your hand through a press on purpose.
23:40.49chutwigsysadminning, tech support, writing code for our PHP guy because he doesn't know how to do a lot of stuff
23:40.55MyrathiSooo... anyone with FuBar knowledge? :p
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23:41.00chutwigand in my spare time i yell at people about why they should not pass passwords in plaintext
23:41.08Wraithanchutwig: lmaot
23:41.09kergothi look o nthe day when i walked a cafeteria lunch lady from an elementary school through using vi on a sco unix machine as one of the low points of my life
23:41.10Finchutwig: heheh :) although being a sysadmin might be seen considered perhaps the wrong job for an angry person to be in :P
23:41.16Wraithans/lmaot/lmao
23:41.25chutwigFin: when you're a linux sysadmin i think it's pretty much required
23:41.36Leaf_ArchimondeBTW, who was interested in event that is fired when shapeshift or stance is changed ?
23:41.46Finchutwig: ah, see, Linux... FreeBSD sysadmins are much more mellow
23:41.50kergothi was interested in that leaf, not sure if anyone else was
23:41.53MyrathiFin: Being a sysadmin -makes- you an angry person :p
23:42.06FinMyrathi: that's why I quit!
23:42.08chutwigFin: i'm also a mac user who admins an OS X server as well, which is sort of like freebsd
23:42.11Finwell not entirely
23:42.11chutwigdoes that count
23:42.19Leaf_Archimondekergoth: it's UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM. Found in SecureTemplates.lua while analizing how does it work
23:42.23pastamancerMyrathi: bing a sysadmin makes you a drunk
23:42.30MyrathiI'm not a drunk. ;P
23:42.31Leaf_Archimondekergoth: maybe, it will be wise to add it to wowwiki?
23:42.32chutwigi am
23:42.38Finchutwig: you have mellow moments in between your angriness? :P
23:42.38chutwigas soon as i got home i made a caucasian
23:42.42MyrathiAt least, I don't think I am...?
23:42.44chutwigFin: it goes up and down
23:42.50MyrathiIf I am, I'm so drunk, I don't believe I'm drunk!
23:42.54MyrathiO_o
23:43.04Finchutwig: unlike your network, I hope
23:43.14MyrathiOoohh... while I'm at it.
23:43.16chutwigFin: my network is the picture of stability, or at least the stuff i set up
23:43.19chutwigthe stuff my boss set up
23:43.19chutwigwell
23:43.21chutwignot so much
23:43.55Finheheh
23:44.01MyrathiPasta: Grid made my gf a happy healer. :p You deserve that cookie.
23:44.10kergothLeaf_Archimonde: seriously?  wowwiki documents it as UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS.  pleas tell me it wasnt a documentation error wrt singular vs plural :P
23:44.24sylvanaarchutwig  im wondering = do you have the addon !!!StandaloneLibraries installed?
23:44.32Finit's like snowflakes, none quite the same but they're all look the same to me
23:44.53pastamancerI think I'll have some beer with that cookie.  Time to go home!
23:45.03Barbanusphyber: ping
23:45.06Myrathi;)
23:45.35Haremhow do you use TaintChecker?
23:45.37Leaf_Archimondekergoth: just checked on live server. UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM works, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS does not. So maybe it's wowwiki misprint ?
23:45.46kergothsounds that way
23:45.47kergothsheesh
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23:46.03Myrathi...that explains why something else doesn't work. :o
23:46.09Leaf_ArchimondeAlso, found nice GetShapeshiftForm() API in same lua file ;)
23:47.22MyrathiDang it being that simple.
23:47.28MyrathiNice catch LA :p
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23:47.49Finhehe, google says there might be one or two other addons using FORMS as well...
23:47.51Leaf_Archimondekergoth: actually, secure action buttors VERY simple. But blizzard explains it VERY bad way ;(. It takes me to completely read sources to understood HOW simple it is ;)
23:48.02Daemonawtf why are all addons rev 26541 ?!
23:48.21kergothDaemona: not all, just many.  had to fix some more line ending issues
23:48.48kergothhmm, i should talk to kael about setting up http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/server-side/mod_dontdothat/README
23:48.49Daemonaaah kay, just felt like i was nuking my interface due to some bad behaviour of the zip-script ;)
23:48.53MyrathiDammit. This FuBar module thing is losing me hair.
23:48.54Leaf_Archimondekergoth: Also checked GetShapeshiftForm(true). Perfectly returns forms / stances from 0 to 5. No need for terrible GetShapeshiftFormInfo()
23:49.04Barbanus~seen phyber
23:49.31purlphyber is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 12h 16m 44s, last said: 'todd`: shift+click = put whatever text is currently displayed by XPBarNone -> chatbox.'.
23:49.32phyberBarbanus: yo.
23:49.32kergothmod_dontdothat will let us prevent users from checking out the whole trunk
23:49.32SkorcherXany of you guys playing with vista yet?
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23:49.33kergothLeaf_Archimonde: neat :)
23:49.37Tularso what do you guys think of the new decursive?
23:49.47NeoTronis there an ace addon that is as nice as itemrack to configure?
23:49.55Barbanusphyber, hey ... do you still maintain topscorefu?
23:49.58Daemonaclosetgnome?
23:50.13kergothseems okay, though i dont really see what makes it an y better than using grid
23:50.13NeoTronI like the separate window where I pick what slots I want to change and when enabled, pick from the available items for that slot
23:50.18phyberBarbanus: I try to.  but it's hard when i don't have any characters where it's broken ;)
23:50.36Barbanusphyber, it looks like it needs some new updates for the new paladin seal/judgment :)
23:50.41Barbanusphyber, how can I help? :)
23:51.03phyberhmm, that's probably just some BabbleSpell wizardry like the rest of it.  shouldn't be hard.
23:51.11phyberwhat are the spell names?
23:51.13NeoTronDaemona: haven't looked at it I don't think. seems like it has addons to manage various events (i.e mounted, plaguelands and stuff like that)
23:51.16kergothNeoTron: i dont think it has something like that, but you can use swapmagic to giv eyou the thing where you hold alt and mouse over a lsot in the character panel to pop out a list of the items you can equip in that slot
23:51.34kergothswapmagic+closetgnome is pretty decent
23:51.38Barbanusphyber, "Seal of Vengeance" and "Judgement of Vengeance"
23:51.40NeoTronbut does it support item sets only changing one item?
23:51.47NeoTroni.e I don't want an item set to include all slots always
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23:51.52phyberBarbanus: ok.
23:52.03NeoTronmaybe I'll just stick with itemrack. seems to work fine
23:52.05kergothNeoTron: yep, you can select what slots are included in the set
23:52.27NeoTronhow is it configured though? nice UI or command line / meny type configuration?
23:52.55NeoTronI'm getting some tainting warnings in itemrack code
23:52.57Barbanusphyber, I also noticed mangle wasnt being tracked, it seems to be coming up as "e (Cat)" in my SV's file, instead of "Mangle (Cat)", but that one I cant really give you much more info about
23:52.58sylvanaarits actually pretty nice - except for updating the gear in an existing set - it has a module even for gathering to equip your +whatever only if you need it
23:53.51kergothNeoTron: when you add a set, it pops up the character page with a green/red border around each slot t indicate whether that slot is in the set you're adding.  it expects that you'll equip what you want tin the set, then go add it
23:53.57NeoTronI tested some addon - dunno if it was closetgnome - and couldn't figure out how it worked
23:54.05NeoTronok
23:54.09NeoTronso it uses the normal character page
23:54.51phyberBarbanus: Babble-Spell doesn't have a Judgement of Vengenace, sure that's what it's called?
23:55.03phybercould just be babble not being up to date.
23:55.23kergothhmm
23:55.25kergoth~kergoth
23:55.36purlrumour has it, kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for CSC, Inc. in Phoenix, AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib.  Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass.  Newbies and the clueless beware.  Email at clarson@kergoth.com.
23:55.38NeoTronjust trying to replace key-addons I use with ace addons
23:56.11Barbanusphyber, oh shit, you know what ... I think its more complicated than that ..... the new seal creates a dot, which has a different name .... and I don't know what the name is when you judge it...
23:56.23BarbanusI'll do some watching tonight, and get you the exact names for sure.
23:56.27phybercool.
23:56.56kergothpurl: no, kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer working for CSC in Phoenix, AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM(svn) nazi, and often an ass.  Newbies and the clueless beware.  Email at clarson@kergoth.com.
23:56.58purlokay, kergoth
23:57.09kergoththats better
23:57.11NeoTronso cosmos has a nicer key binding interface (a side bar where you can jump to each addon with a click) - anything in ace like that?
23:57.27kergothmyBindings2
23:57.35NeoTrongoody
23:57.53NeoTronI think my key goal should be to get rid of cosmos
23:58.00kergothgood goal
23:58.02ThraeAre Lua hash strings limited to ASCII, or can they also use UTF-8 for foreign characters?
23:58.05ZacWolfI did, been very happy Neo
23:58.18NeoTronexcept theer's no MobInfo in ace
23:58.21NeoTronmobhealth just isn't the same
23:58.33Finit *really* gets me that individual addons are breaking its support of click casting by implementing key bindings themselves :)
23:58.38kergothThrae: lua handles utf-8 fine.  pastamancer created the UTF-8 lib for a reason :P
23:58.42ThraeNeoTron: MobInfo2 is independant of Cosmos
23:58.46Finwell not *really* but it's always annoying
23:58.57Thraekergoth: If it handles it fine, what's the lib for?
23:59.06NeoTronThrae: does it depend on cosmos addons at all though?
23:59.11NeoTronor just optionally?
23:59.13ThraeNeoTron: No
23:59.20NeoTronthe only other tainting I see, seems to come from SEA
23:59.28ThraeNot MobInfo2. Anyway, most of Cosmos is embedded now
23:59.35ZacWolfSEA is of the worm...
23:59.41Tulardo you guys use grid for a partyframe or just for healing/decursing?
23:59.58NeoTronanyone used nQuestLog and EQL3 - do they compare?

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