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| 00:01.36 | Herio | anyone know a mod that will automate quest sharing? |
| 00:02.55 | Dwarik | no, but would that truely be usefull? i mean if it tries to share your entire log you get a lot of quests the others don't want |
| 00:03.44 | Veight | Though, you might be able to have it share the ones for the location, and trigger when you enter an instance. |
| 00:04.50 | Industrial | Dwarik: everything is considered beta in trunk, afaik |
| 00:04.53 | Baps | so what's the recommended bag mod these days? ArkInventory? |
| 00:05.00 | Industrial | baggins |
| 00:05.16 | Industrial | or onebag |
| 00:05.39 | Baps | I've been using bagnon forever and it's buggy and not being updated regularly.. more than a month since the last update |
| 00:05.53 | Ominous | hmm i cant decide with or without externals |
| 00:05.57 | Industrial | Tuller hangs out in #wowi-lounge |
| 00:06.05 | cynyr | Industrial: both |
| 00:06.06 | Industrial | Baps: go tell him |
| 00:06.07 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:06.18 | Baps | yeah, I described the problems to him a week or two ago and he didn't think there was a problem |
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| 00:09.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://www.adogsbreakfastmovie.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=33 |
| 00:09.34 | Diabolic-Destiny | wow they made the movie and now sold it to MGM and its pilot is going for screening at NBC/Universal |
| 00:10.00 | Diabolic-Destiny | -j #wowi-lounge |
| 00:11.46 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r25725 10BugSack/ (BugSack-enUS.lua BugSack.lua BugSackFu.lua): |
| 00:11.46 | CIA-17 | BugSack: |
| 00:11.46 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.46 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.46 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.43 | Industrial | vhaarr: please oh please make it a "plum" noise instead of the ANOYING works moise |
| 00:12.46 | Industrial | worms* |
| 00:12.54 | vhaarr | Industrial: lol |
| 00:13.15 | Industrial | needs more "plum". |
| 00:14.21 | CIA-17 | 03Heron * r25726 10FuBar_HerbTrackerFu/ (HerbTrackerFuLocale-koKR.lua HerbTrackerFuLocale-zhTW.lua): FuBar_HerbTrackerFu - Using Babble-Herbs-2.2 for localization |
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| 00:21.08 | Azurewrath | Industrial: fatality! ;) |
| 00:25.49 | Industrial | *twitch* |
| 00:26.11 | ckknight | Industrial: you do realize you can mute it, right? |
| 00:26.19 | Industrial | fata*sound of necks snapping* |
| 00:26.26 | Industrial | ckknight: I do. |
| 00:26.58 | Industrial | its just that i dont think its that great'a default |
| 00:30.21 | vhaarr | Industrial: I think it's an *excellent* default. |
| 00:30.35 | vhaarr | Industrial: Feel free to give me another sound and I'll bloat the menu with a sound selector. |
| 00:30.48 | vhaarr | "The cool default", "The lame alternative" and "Mute". |
| 00:30.50 | vhaarr | :D |
| 00:31.27 | Amadeo | I think Industrial would want AOL's "You've Got Mail!" |
| 00:32.01 | vhaarr | "You've got errors!" |
| 00:32.05 | vhaarr | lol |
| 00:32.09 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:32.11 | Industrial | plum |
| 00:32.14 | Industrial | say that word |
| 00:32.18 | Industrial | and you know what i mean |
| 00:32.37 | vhaarr | give me a .wav then |
| 00:32.41 | Industrial | :( |
| 00:32.44 | Industrial | *goes looking* |
| 00:32.46 | Amadeo | hahaha, a .wav of Industrial saying "plum" |
| 00:33.48 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:33.59 | groll | hmm anyone know a command for autoturnin to turn if off? |
| 00:34.06 | vhaarr | Kemayo: ping |
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| 00:38.44 | Industrial | http://www.ibp.ru/ftp/LINGVO5/SOUND/PLUM.WAV |
| 00:38.49 | Industrial | hahah i found smeone saying plum |
| 00:39.24 | Amadeo | hahah |
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| 00:43.13 | Industrial | nop cant findany |
| 00:44.45 | Industrial | Kaelten-Laptop: ping |
| 00:45.02 | Kaelten-Laptop | PONG? |
| 00:45.08 | Kaelten-Laptop | woops |
| 00:45.58 | Industrial | Kaelten-Laptop: The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved. |
| 00:46.01 | Industrial | :( |
| 00:46.18 | Industrial | I got a really cool one >:) |
| 00:46.53 | Kaelten-Laptop | ah let me fix that |
| 00:47.30 | Industrial | thx :) |
| 00:49.46 | Kaelten-Laptop | try now |
| 00:50.17 | Industrial | ghe ghe: http://tinyurl.com/3bptue |
| 00:50.24 | Industrial | sucess! |
| 00:50.55 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4347.msg77522#msg77522 |
| 00:50.57 | Industrial | :) |
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| 00:52.34 | fatbrain | flexbar? |
| 00:52.40 | fatbrain | isn't that a action-bar replacement? |
| 00:53.46 | Industrial | no, its an actionbar |
| 00:54.00 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:54.54 | fatbrain | erm |
| 00:54.59 | fatbrain | how was that different from what I said? |
| 00:56.24 | ckknight | I found a way to make Tablet more efficient |
| 00:56.26 | ckknight | win for me. |
| 00:56.33 | Industrial | ckknight: yay |
| 00:56.36 | Industrial | fatbrain: nothing. |
| 00:56.58 | fatbrain | Industrial: You really should try bongos. |
| 00:57.03 | fatbrain | if you dont like it, give it a few hours. |
| 00:57.14 | Industrial | nah, I made my own actionbar |
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| 00:59.17 | fatbrain | Industrial: why make one yourself? |
| 01:01.50 | Dwarik | why not. making mods can be fun, and oyou can let it work exactly as you want |
| 01:02.44 | Diabolic-Destiny | it seems WoWKB as included Cartographer support with MetamapKB import feature |
| 01:03.25 | Gnarfoz_ | anyone using/can recommend a nice style sheet for apache's mod_autoindex? |
| 01:03.30 | fatbrain | if you have the time, I guess it's ok. |
| 01:03.47 | fatbrain | Gnarfoz_: can't say that I can. never used the mod_autoindex. |
| 01:03.59 | fatbrain | try #apache ;) |
| 01:04.07 | Gnarfoz_ | hm |
| 01:04.32 | Gnarfoz_ | freenode and all, I'm used to there not being channels for the stuff I've got questions about :p |
| 01:04.49 | fatbrain | hehe |
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| 01:08.25 | Gamefaq | hi |
| 01:09.44 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25728 10Cartographer/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:09.44 | CIA-17 | Cartographer - changed note tooltip system so it's generally handled in Cartographer, allowing for multiple notes to show their tooltip simultaneously (sorta) |
| 01:09.44 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-Notes - added :OnNoteTooltipLineRequest(), which should return the arguments for one line for Tablet:AddLine. It will be called if showing multiple notes, as only one line per note will be shown. |
| 01:09.45 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-GuildPositions - use the new system. |
| 01:09.47 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-LookNFeel - get tooltip scaling to work with the new system. |
| 01:09.52 | ckknight | please test. |
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| 01:10.11 | Amadeo | I want my 500k Cartographer! ;) |
| 01:10.20 | fatbrain | trying the new patch-updater |
| 01:10.23 | fatbrain | erm, addon-updater |
| 01:11.23 | ckknight | Amadeo: it's complicated to figure out all the instances |
| 01:12.03 | Amadeo | :( |
| 01:12.49 | ckknight | hey, you know how if you hover over a player/party member/etc it will just show the name? I can change that now to something more descriptive |
| 01:12.58 | ckknight | anyone want me to do that? |
| 01:13.02 | ckknight | and if so, to what? |
| 01:13.16 | Gamefaq | ....§%§$§&&....since patch the EU servers are from 24 hours a day min. 2 hours down and/or become restarted O.o |
| 01:13.18 | Feldia | active quest? |
| 01:13.32 | ckknight | Feldia: uh, no, can't do that, out of scope |
| 01:13.33 | ckknight | I could add lvl + patch |
| 01:13.38 | ckknight | err, lvl + class |
| 01:13.44 | Feldia | I tried ;) |
| 01:14.02 | Feldia | I don't imagine level / class would be that useful |
| 01:14.07 | Feldia | since you'd likely know that of your guild members anyway |
| 01:14.09 | fatbrain | who's developing the ace-updater?! |
| 01:15.15 | ckknight | PProvost |
| 01:15.38 | ckknight | Feldia: I'm talking about party/raid, not guild yet |
| 01:16.20 | Feldia | oh |
| 01:16.20 | Feldia | well |
| 01:16.21 | Amadeo | Those USBCell batteries are cool |
| 01:16.24 | Feldia | I guess that could be useful then |
| 01:16.27 | Feldia | if you're pugging things |
| 01:16.48 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r25729 10Cartographer/Modules/GuildPositions.lua: Cartographer: Added deDE Local to Guild Positions Module |
| 01:16.51 | Amadeo | oh, they're only 1300mAH :( |
| 01:16.54 | Feldia | which I'm sure the large majority of players do |
| 01:17.07 | cynyr | ckknight: lvl class, guild |
| 01:17.09 | ckknight | ooh, I could color the name of the person with their class color |
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| 01:19.44 | Feldia | oh btw, this new "guild positions" module |
| 01:19.49 | Feldia | does that work regardless of where they are? |
| 01:19.53 | Feldia | orj ust people in the same zone as you |
| 01:20.32 | ckknight | regardless, so if you go to their zone, you'll see em |
| 01:20.38 | Feldia | ah |
| 01:20.43 | Amadeo | What does the Draenei Paladin mount look like? |
| 01:20.46 | Feldia | I ask because I've only noticed it with someone in the same zone as me |
| 01:20.47 | Amadeo | Epic, preferably |
| 01:20.53 | Feldia | though that was probably just a fluke, and the rest of my guild hasn't updated |
| 01:20.55 | cynyr | Amadeo: would assume it's a horse |
| 01:20.58 | ckknight | Feldia: zoom to their zone :-P |
| 01:21.05 | Feldia | they're offline |
| 01:21.14 | Amadeo | cynyr: Yes, but the Blood Elf Paladin mount is a different color |
| 01:21.20 | cynyr | Amadeo: ohh |
| 01:21.24 | Amadeo | :) |
| 01:21.24 | cynyr | idk then |
| 01:21.48 | Amadeo | I think it's pretty sexy, so I'm curious about the Draenei |
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| 01:27.06 | ckknight | has anyone written a Guild Roster lib yet? |
| 01:27.12 | ckknight | like RosterLib, only for guilds |
| 01:27.21 | ckknight | if not, I will |
| 01:27.58 | vhaarr | maybe GuildFu has some internal stuff |
| 01:28.02 | vhaarr | but other than that, I have no idea |
| 01:28.06 | tlund | [02:20] #wowace@<ckknight> regardless, so if you go to their zone, you'll see em |
| 01:28.09 | tlund | ckknight: how does that work? |
| 01:28.18 | ckknight | tlund: what do you mean? |
| 01:28.20 | tlund | how do you get the information from the game? |
| 01:28.52 | tlund | i guess there is no x, y = blah(guild23); available? |
| 01:29.08 | tlund | oh, never mind. :) |
| 01:29.24 | tlund | i read the question as "wether or not they have the plugin" |
| 01:29.26 | tlund | sorry, its late :) |
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| 01:34.25 | hypetech | why doesn't anyone ever roll an arcane mage? I just respecced from fire at level 48 just to test it out, and it's not bad at all |
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| 01:37.22 | Sparhawke | because it used to suck |
| 01:37.34 | ckknight | tlund: comm. |
| 01:38.04 | ckknight | tlund: every 5 (or more depending on amount of guild members) seconds, you send a message telling your position |
| 01:38.25 | hypetech | hmm...I know it's not an ace project, but does anybody here have experience with auctioneer? |
| 01:40.12 | Azurewrath | hypetech: because an arcane mage does no dmg in endgame PvE, the range sucks and you're always oom. And a 3 minute "arcane power, presence of mind, pyroblast"-macro is noobish. |
| 01:40.52 | hypetech | ya |
| 01:41.38 | hypetech | does anybody know how to get your auctioneer data for an old realm to be used on a new realm? |
| 01:42.18 | Azurewrath | uhm.. even if if worked, wheres the point in that? :) |
| 01:43.00 | hypetech | because I transferred realms and now I have no pricing |
| 01:43.04 | hypetech | it's a brand new realm |
| 01:44.09 | Azurewrath | your old prices are useles there anyway |
| 01:44.26 | hypetech | not if I set the standard on the new realm with the old realm's price |
| 01:44.27 | hypetech | prices* |
| 01:44.30 | hypetech | the AH is nearly empty |
| 01:44.34 | hypetech | prices aren't set yet |
| 01:45.17 | FryGuy | hypetech: you probably can do it by going into the savedvariables file and search-replace old realm with new realm |
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| 01:50.22 | art3mis | hrm who makes whisperfu |
| 01:50.47 | art3mis | curious if thers an option to allow link clicking in it |
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| 01:53.10 | vid` | hmm |
| 01:53.17 | vid` | anyoene not get the bars in pvp? |
| 01:53.23 | vid` | for captures |
| 01:53.30 | vid` | like in the new zones with the world pvp objectives |
| 01:53.35 | vid` | i dont get any bars when i stand in the towers etc |
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| 01:53.43 | vid` | no idea what mod is causing it |
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| 01:55.22 | mkzwo | is there a way to disable debuf highlights on enemy units in aguf? |
| 01:55.26 | Gnarfoz_ | vid`: doesn't have to be a mod, the default UI has switches to disabled those, too |
| 02:00.29 | nadas | heh, my Prat is adding double timestamps to system messages :o |
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| 02:04.00 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r25730 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Make sure we're added to the oRA2 menu. |
| 02:05.39 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25731 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Removed extra table creation per chat line |
| 02:07.25 | cynyr | ckknight: what would i like to see in the tool tip; class color(background would be better than name IMO), range from me, and guild name if they are in one. |
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| 02:07.49 | cynyr | sorry it's a little late.. but had to go back to making dinner |
| 02:07.51 | ckknight | background? |
| 02:08.30 | ckknight | here's what I have now: name, level (colored by difference), class (colored), race, guild (if exists), guild rank (colored by difference if in same guild) |
| 02:08.42 | ckknight | also, if guilds are the same, the guild will be green instead of yellow |
| 02:08.49 | Gnarfoz_ | he meant coloring the background of the tooltip, rather than the name, for class |
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| 02:10.03 | vhaarr | ckknight: I have InstanceLoot and InstanceMaps enabled, I have PeriodicTable-3.0 loaded, and I go to any instance and click the bosses with the left mouse button, isn't that supposed to give me a drop list? |
| 02:10.12 | vhaarr | ckknight: I have updated to your latest SVN changes. |
| 02:10.13 | ckknight | probably |
| 02:10.14 | ckknight | I don't know |
| 02:10.18 | ckknight | I don't touch that stuff |
| 02:10.36 | ckknight | I'm not going to color the tooltip background |
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| 02:11.40 | vhaarr | I'm just guessing that checkin broke it. |
| 02:11.55 | cynyr | ckknight: i did mean background, but it's your mod |
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| 02:14.31 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r25732 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: |
| 02:14.31 | CIA-17 | BanzaiAlert : |
| 02:14.32 | CIA-17 | - Added sound (BellTollAlliance) |
| 02:15.26 | ckknight | anyone know why GetGuildInfo("party1") doesn't work? |
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| 02:18.33 | Saroz | dunno |
| 02:18.37 | Saroz | let me test |
| 02:19.25 | cynyr | whats the mod for showing cooldowns on hot bars? |
| 02:19.34 | JoshBorke | omnicc |
| 02:20.08 | cynyr | JoshBorke: thanks |
| 02:21.48 | Saroz | indeed ckknight, doesnt work, odd |
| 02:22.10 | ckknight | guess that means I will need to make GuildRosterLib :-P |
| 02:22.23 | Saroz | or tell blizz to fix it |
| 02:22.32 | Saroz | it works on player and target |
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| 02:27.04 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25733 10Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/Timestamps.lua): |
| 02:27.04 | CIA-17 | Prat: Attempt to fix double timestamps. Using a sequence numbering method to |
| 02:27.04 | CIA-17 | note if we have already added a timestamp to a particular chat line. This may |
| 02:27.04 | CIA-17 | cause odd behaviour, like double or zero timestamps on certain lines. If so this |
| 02:27.04 | CIA-17 | change is why. |
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| 02:39.12 | mkzwo | is there a way to disable debuf highlights on enemy units in aguf? |
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| 02:45.56 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r25734 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: |
| 02:45.56 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Stats : |
| 02:45.56 | CIA-17 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:46.01 | tlund | sylvanaar: I just upgraded Prat and my Guildchat (previously green) turned White |
| 02:46.35 | cynyr | i hate bliz right now... the game us to run ok woth 512MB ram... now it runs for shit |
| 02:47.14 | Azurewrath | 512mb is the minimum to run it.. what did you expect? :) |
| 02:47.21 | Azurewrath | get 2gig and its fine :p |
| 02:47.39 | cynyr | Azurewrath: min spec should run at a playable lvl in all places |
| 02:47.44 | Tekkub | when was the game ever playable with 512? that's some good shit you've been smoking |
| 02:47.55 | Amadeo | What resolution, cynyr? |
| 02:47.56 | cynyr | Azurewrath: actully BC is now 1GB |
| 02:48.03 | cynyr | Amadeo: 1280x1024 |
| 02:48.08 | Azurewrath | haha |
| 02:48.25 | cynyr | Tekkub: i use to get 20-40FPS everywhere except whne i landed in IF/etc |
| 02:48.27 | PProvost | ckknight, yes? |
| 02:48.30 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25735 10Prat/modules/ServerNames.lua: Prat: Fixes to servernames to build the server list once glorylib has loaded |
| 02:48.40 | cynyr | Tekkub: now i can't even fly on a gryphin |
| 02:48.41 | Tekkub | min specs implies minimum settings |
| 02:48.59 | cynyr | Tekkub: 1280x1024 is all vid card.. not system ram |
| 02:49.20 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25736 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Libs/): Cartographer - hovering over player/party/raid members will now show a veritable font of knowledge. |
| 02:49.24 | ckknight | PProvost: I was telling someone else your name |
| 02:49.28 | ckknight | alright, please test that out. |
| 02:49.29 | Amadeo | cynyr: Are you speaking of low fps in the Outlands, or everywhere now? |
| 02:49.37 | Tekkub | advice still stands, 1GiB min, 2Gib is a shitload better |
| 02:49.39 | PProvost | hokay. if it was wau related, send them to #wau |
| 02:49.53 | cynyr | Amadeo: just outland from what i've seen.. although flying is laggier over all now |
| 02:50.12 | Amadeo | Yeah...that sounds like me, but I have 1GB RAM, just an older PC |
| 02:50.16 | cynyr | Tekkub: 2GB DDR is about 160 |
| 02:50.19 | cynyr | USD |
| 02:50.26 | Tekkub | so? |
| 02:50.38 | cynyr | hmm 2GB ram.. or rent/food |
| 02:50.39 | Azurewrath | more if you buy decent ram.. |
| 02:50.57 | Amadeo | cynyr: Windows could squeeze out 10 or more fps for you :P |
| 02:51.16 | cynyr | Amadeo: 2.0 GHZ sempron, and ide seagates(50MB/sec reads tho) |
| 02:51.25 | cynyr | Amadeo: for a $200 copy of windows |
| 02:51.40 | Tekkub | okey, that's your first mistake |
| 02:51.47 | Tekkub | you could have bought ram with that |
| 02:52.13 | cynyr | Tekkub: i know... and i'm not buying a copy of windows.. nor am i going to run a crack copy |
| 02:52.39 | Tekkub | so problem solved, get ram with that $200 |
| 02:52.52 | cynyr | don't have $200 around to do that with |
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| 02:53.13 | Amadeo | I'd rough it until you have money for a new PC :) |
| 02:53.40 | cynyr | Amadeo: i'm buying a second 512 stick... |
| 02:53.40 | Amadeo | unless you can easily throw in another 512 stick |
| 02:54.05 | fatbrain | HRM |
| 02:54.12 | Amadeo | that works...though I'm not sure it's going to make a huge impact on framerate, it'll definately help the low dips |
| 02:54.15 | fatbrain | hrm, caps |
| 02:54.28 | cynyr | 44 for a PQI 512 stick... |
| 02:54.53 | vhaarr | ~whalecrit next96 |
| 02:55.09 | purl | ACTION crits next96 with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. next96 dies |
| 02:55.09 | cynyr | Amadeo: well right now the game swaps out.. it only dips on disk access |
| 02:55.09 | vhaarr | ~seen next96 |
| 02:55.35 | purl | i haven't seen 'next96', vhaarr |
| 02:55.35 | vhaarr | ~seen purl |
| 02:55.38 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (13d 22h 2m 48s) #botpark (13d 22h 2m 48s) #linuxfund (13d 22h 2m 48s) #wowi-lounge (13d 22h 2m 48s) #edev (13d 22h 2m 48s) #fossfund (13d 22h 2m 48s) #hosernet (13d 22h 2m 48s) #norganna (13d 22h 2m 48s) #creativeforum (13d 22h 2m 48s) #ud (13d 22h 2m ... |
| 02:55.39 | Amadeo | cynyr: ah, I see |
| 02:55.48 | vhaarr | freaking koreans |
| 02:56.06 | cynyr | Amadeo: standing still in hellfire i'm at 40FPS |
| 02:56.27 | Amadeo | not bad |
| 02:56.31 | Amadeo | what's your video? |
| 02:56.38 | cynyr | running is the same untill i turn a corner and it needs to load new textures |
| 02:56.42 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25737 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer - fixed metric check |
| 02:56.47 | cynyr | a 6600GT 128MB AGP |
| 02:57.02 | fatbrain | agp is sooo 1999 |
| 02:57.06 | Amadeo | I wonder why my framerate isn't nearly that high in Linux |
| 02:57.14 | fatbrain | Amadeo: ati or nvidia? |
| 02:57.18 | Amadeo | Nvidia |
| 02:57.18 | cynyr | Amadeo: what card? |
| 02:57.21 | Amadeo | same as yours |
| 02:57.27 | fatbrain | Amadeo: You'r using the regedit hack? |
| 02:57.30 | Amadeo | Yes |
| 02:57.34 | cynyr | hmm idk |
| 02:57.44 | fatbrain | Amadeo: then it's because wow wasn't written for wine |
| 02:57.46 | fatbrain | :P |
| 02:57.50 | cynyr | i have the regedit hack, and the newest version of the drivers and the newest wine |
| 02:58.04 | Amadeo | me too :) |
| 02:58.04 | cynyr | fatbrain: i'm running under wine |
| 02:58.13 | fatbrain | cynyr: and? |
| 02:58.33 | fatbrain | cynyr: I didn't imply it didn't run, simply that it wasn't designed/optemized to run on the wine platform. |
| 02:58.42 | fatbrain | (I'm running wow on wine as well from time to time) |
| 02:58.44 | cynyr | fatbrain: we were compairing linux FPS to linux FPS with a similar setup |
| 02:58.55 | fatbrain | ah, then I really should stop talking :P |
| 02:59.01 | Amadeo | I have a P4 2.26GHz, 1GB RAM and the same 6600 GT |
| 02:59.08 | fatbrain | anyhow, I guess it's all about the hardware :P |
| 02:59.45 | fatbrain | I just have to ask... You'r both running opengl right? |
| 02:59.46 | cynyr | the game is not really procesor bound.. if i had 2GB ram i wouldn't ever notice things like firefox, or banshee in the background |
| 02:59.51 | cynyr | fatbrain: i am |
| 02:59.53 | Amadeo | I get about 15-18 fps standing in that town...not Honor Hold but the one that starts with a T |
| 03:00.12 | cynyr | Amadeo: i was just east of it getting 40 |
| 03:00.23 | cynyr | 25 at the pools |
| 03:00.24 | fatbrain | Amadeo: You'r running opengl right? |
| 03:00.27 | Amadeo | Yes |
| 03:00.47 | fatbrain | You compiled the wine yourselves? or you using some precompiled binary? |
| 03:01.09 | Amadeo | the .deb package they link from the site |
| 03:01.29 | cynyr | fatbrain: gentoo.. so compiled |
| 03:01.44 | fatbrain | ah, kk, I would recommend compiling it yourself |
| 03:01.47 | fatbrain | (Amadeo) |
| 03:02.05 | Amadeo | Compiling it is going to get me 20+ fps? |
| 03:02.12 | fatbrain | Easy, no rocket-science involved |
| 03:02.21 | cynyr | doubtfull... |
| 03:02.29 | vhaarr | With apt-get, it's pie. |
| 03:02.36 | vhaarr | apt-source, that is. |
| 03:02.52 | fatbrain | Amadoe: not really, may give you some boosts tho |
| 03:03.16 | vhaarr | Might help performance slightly, but it should not really be noticable. |
| 03:03.22 | fatbrain | also, I had to make some source-code modifications before compling wine 0.21 or smthn a few months back.... donno if that's done in the .deb |
| 03:03.35 | vhaarr | It's not required any more with wine 0.9.29. |
| 03:03.42 | fatbrain | ah, nice. |
| 03:03.42 | cynyr | well .deps are -march=383 -O1 ... |
| 03:04.09 | Amadeo | I feel like I've done all the tweaks possible, so I'm not sure why my framerate is so bad |
| 03:04.12 | fatbrain | Amadoe: get the newest wine from their website and compile it yourself. |
| 03:04.16 | cynyr | fatbrain: just plays now, it's nice.. in fact the hot keys work so i can run vent and use a hotkey |
| 03:04.27 | fatbrain | Never got vent to work :( |
| 03:04.36 | fatbrain | also was unable to bind the key left of backspace |
| 03:04.46 | fatbrain | (in-game that is) |
| 03:04.52 | fatbrain | which was very strange. |
| 03:05.41 | fatbrain | Never got ts2 to work either, guess it had something to do with me using spdif on a crappy sound-chipset and a usb-microphone that didn't wanna work with alsa |
| 03:05.46 | fatbrain | /cry |
| 03:06.31 | Amadeo | Well, I can try compiling it...can't hurt |
| 03:06.42 | Amadeo | How would I do it with apt-source? :) |
| 03:06.46 | cynyr | fatbrain: i'm using crappy onboard, mic in tho |
| 03:06.58 | cynyr | apt-source install wine? |
| 03:07.03 | Amadeo | that's it? |
| 03:07.16 | Amadeo | do I need to remove the wine package I have now, first? |
| 03:07.20 | cynyr | Amadeo: idk... |
| 03:07.24 | cynyr | i run gentoo |
| 03:07.38 | ggilbert | Amadeo: it's best if you do |
| 03:07.41 | Amadeo | ok |
| 03:07.59 | ggilbert | may not be necessary, but it avoids potential problems |
| 03:08.44 | fatbrain | Amadeo: you need build-essentials |
| 03:09.07 | Amadeo | I may have that already, let me check |
| 03:09.08 | fatbrain | and remove the .deb you installed, apt-get remove wine, ought to do it I guess |
| 03:09.20 | vhaarr | no |
| 03:09.26 | vhaarr | the new deb will overwrite it anyway |
| 03:09.28 | fatbrain | There ought also be a "how-to compile wine" on the wine website |
| 03:09.37 | fatbrain | new deb == newest version of wine? |
| 03:09.41 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25738 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Fix loss of coloring |
| 03:09.58 | cynyr | fatbrain: ./configure && make && make install |
| 03:10.06 | vhaarr | err |
| 03:10.10 | vhaarr | Don't do that. |
| 03:10.37 | cynyr | vhaarr: i'm not sure.. i just do "emerge -av wine" |
| 03:10.41 | fatbrain | newest deb == newest version of wine? |
| 03:10.49 | vhaarr | fakeroot apt-source --compile wine |
| 03:10.53 | vhaarr | or similar |
| 03:11.09 | vhaarr | apt-get source --compile wine |
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| 03:11.20 | kagaro | yo |
| 03:11.21 | vhaarr | and you'll get a .deb |
| 03:11.31 | vhaarr | then you just do sudo dpkg -i <wine>.deb |
| 03:11.33 | vhaarr | and you're done |
| 03:11.37 | Amadeo | interesting! |
| 03:12.03 | kagaro | ck did you remove some methods from Cartographer ? |
| 03:12.05 | vhaarr | obviously you should tweak compile options if you want to make it interesting |
| 03:12.12 | ckknight | kagaro: not to my knowledge |
| 03:12.13 | ckknight | why? |
| 03:12.13 | vhaarr | like -O2 and 686 or whatever |
| 03:12.31 | kagaro | http://ace.pastey.net/5353 |
| 03:12.40 | Amadeo | hm, that's giving me an older wine, I need to find the source repository I guess |
| 03:12.55 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r25739 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Auto layout will no longer be run when disabled |
| 03:12.57 | vhaarr | yes, you do, and that's easy, so I won't even give you a hint |
| 03:13.14 | kagaro | Coordinates also throwing an error on GetCurrentInstance |
| 03:13.28 | ckknight | kagaro: it exists for me |
| 03:13.46 | kagaro | i just updated from svn and it started barfing |
| 03:13.48 | Andune | nargiddley: ping |
| 03:13.56 | Nargiddley | Andune, pong |
| 03:14.13 | kagaro | ohh i wonder if cart it self failed to load |
| 03:15.18 | ckknight | kagaro: well it works for me, so I can't help you |
| 03:15.25 | kagaro | im reloggin hold on |
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| 03:16.34 | kagaro | eww not good over 80 errors loading in |
| 03:16.54 | Barbanus | Is there a module that allows you to see your guild members on your map for Cart? or is that built-in? |
| 03:17.18 | cynyr | Amadeo: it could also be the differance in intel/amd ram speeds |
| 03:17.19 | kagaro | I see the root cause, Crayon didnt load, so Cart is nil |
| 03:17.27 | Andune | nargiddley: latest version of baggins always resets to default position |
| 03:17.39 | cynyr | Amadeo: although i don't thing the socketA really had anything cool |
| 03:17.46 | Amadeo | vhaarr: I found it ;) |
| 03:17.51 | Amadeo | Yeah, I dunno! |
| 03:17.51 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 03:18.00 | Amadeo | Sempron is newer overall |
| 03:18.05 | kagaro | the toc needs updated |
| 03:18.20 | Nargiddley | Andune, read the commit message 10 lines up |
| 03:18.22 | cynyr | Amadeo: well it's the socketA one.. it's basicly a renamed duron |
| 03:18.30 | Amadeo | I think I need some build tools :P |
| 03:18.32 | Amadeo | it failed |
| 03:18.41 | Andune | nargiddley: i saw that, wasn't sure if that was the same thing. sounded like a diff issue |
| 03:19.02 | Andune | nargiddley: if it is, thx for fixing it! |
| 03:19.19 | cynyr | Amadeo: thats one of the reasons i'm moved away from binary distros... |
| 03:19.28 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r25740 10Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer: updated toc |
| 03:19.29 | Nargiddley | it is, the autolayout was getting run when it shouldnt, so it wasnt reallt default positions just the auto ones |
| 03:19.38 | kagaro | ck was just missing crayon in the toc |
| 03:19.41 | ckknight | ah. |
| 03:19.43 | Amadeo | I figured every distribution would contain basic tools |
| 03:19.45 | ckknight | whoops. |
| 03:19.52 | Amadeo | now I just have to figure out how to get what I need |
| 03:21.26 | Funkeh` | anyone can show/tell me how to extract from the mpq files? |
| 03:22.08 | fatbrain | Funkeh`: there are several mpq-extract apps out there, use google |
| 03:22.26 | fatbrain | Funkeh`: or write one yourself with the mpq-lib (also somewhere on google) |
| 03:23.13 | kagaro | ck: there is alos something funny goin on with coordinates |
| 03:23.31 | kagaro | ill look at it tommarrow |
| 03:25.43 | Amadeo | ok, I found what was needed, bbiab though :) |
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| 03:35.28 | todd | I just upgraded prat from a really old version, and I can't figure out why the text is all white |
| 03:35.42 | todd | I use the text color to distinguish between the source (guild, party, etc) |
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| 03:38.58 | kenlyric | todd, I think i's broken. |
| 03:39.01 | kenlyric | *it's |
| 03:39.58 | kenlyric | normal channels, like guild recruitment, General are white too. |
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| 03:41.04 | tlund | yes, it broke in the latest revision |
| 03:41.16 | tlund | [04:09] #wowace <CIA-17> sylvanaar * r25738 Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Fix loss of coloring |
| 03:41.20 | tlund | upgrade again. |
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| 03:46.30 | steev64 | hrm |
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| 03:47.12 | ag` | ding 70 :D |
| 03:47.29 | kenlyric | aq`: SLEEP! |
| 03:47.43 | kenlyric | also, ag` |
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| 03:50.52 | durcyn | whee 70 and an epic gryphon, now i can sleep! |
| 03:51.09 | ag` | I need gold >.< |
| 03:54.36 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25741 10HotMan/HotMan.lua: |
| 03:54.36 | CIA-17 | HotMan: Added support for Mangle |
| 03:54.37 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.43 | Industrial | why yet another bar mod :S |
| 03:58.28 | todd | how about a threat meter mod =) |
| 03:59.04 | Industrial | whats the use of those things anyway besides 'look i did more damage' ? |
| 04:01.56 | Gnarfoz_ | that's their purpose |
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| 04:24.32 | sylvanaar | my server is unplayable again |
| 04:24.57 | nymbia | mine just got playable again after an hour of downtime |
| 04:25.17 | sylvanaar | we are being force split |
| 04:32.30 | Nayon | I need to farm up 2k more to get my epic gryphon.. Damn |
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| 04:35.19 | Kaelten | how come you guys are letting the new server off so easy? :P |
| 04:37.49 | anenigma | what, you want us to update with externals? |
| 04:37.58 | anenigma | all of us? at once? |
| 04:38.02 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:38.08 | Kaelten | why not! |
| 04:38.09 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:38.15 | anenigma | k, updating now :) |
| 04:38.17 | Kaelten | actually I'm just keeping an eye on the server stats |
| 04:38.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:38.29 | Kaelten | and its not being taxed at all, I hope this is a good sign. |
| 04:38.40 | anenigma | maybe i should just put it in a loop. while 1 ; do svn-update.sh ; done |
| 04:38.47 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:38.57 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25742 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer: InstanceMaps: now using blizz files for The Blood Furnace map |
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| 04:41.16 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25743 10Cartographer/Instances/HCBloodFurnaces.blp: Cartographer: Maps: removed The Blood Furnace map, smaller zip yey! |
| 04:45.18 | [FH]Birdemani | i dont think questfu tracker is working anymore |
| 04:45.21 | [FH]Birdemani | it doesnt display |
| 04:46.14 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25744 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: update notes for The Blood Furnace |
| 04:46.43 | anenigma | bah. lrn2update once funkydude! |
| 04:46.45 | Funkeh` | 1 down :p |
| 04:47.13 | Funkeh` | pfft, then i don't get to spam my name |
| 04:47.13 | ckknight | don't hassle him |
| 04:47.18 | ckknight | what he's doing is important |
| 04:47.24 | ckknight | and I'm too busy :-P |
| 04:47.35 | Feldia | can someone please add more instance maps :( |
| 04:47.45 | Feldia | I'll do anything you like as payment |
| 04:47.45 | Funkeh` | i will |
| 04:47.48 | Feldia | .....anything |
| 04:47.49 | Funkeh` | don't worry |
| 04:48.03 | Funkeh` | you can pay me by not begging and being patient :P |
| 04:48.03 | ckknight | Feldia was to sex you, Funkeh` |
| 04:48.08 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:48.13 | Feldia | haha |
| 04:49.26 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25745 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/Coordinates.lua Modules/Notes.lua): |
| 04:49.27 | CIA-17 | Cartographer - moved yardification into Cartographer out of Coordinates/Notes. Party members now have a distance line on them. |
| 04:49.27 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-Notes - Yards away: 5 changed to Distance: 5 yd |
| 04:50.12 | anenigma | lol @ yardification |
| 04:50.22 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25746 10Cartographer/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer: update ze script |
| 04:50.28 | Dekuna | hmm, QuestsFu got borked somehow, the tracker isn't working |
| 04:51.09 | ckknight | anenigma: it turns x/y numbers which are [0,1]x[0,1] into yards :-P |
| 04:51.12 | Dekuna | [2007/01/21 22:31:09-187-x1]: FuBar_QuestsFu-2.0.25613\QuestsFu.lua:832: Tablet-2.0: You must set title within a registration. |
| 04:51.12 | Dekuna | Quixote-1.0-24756 (FuBar_QuestsFu):112: in function <...ddOns\FuBar_QuestsFu\lib\Quixote-1.0\Quixote-1.0.lua:109> |
| 04:51.12 | Dekuna | <in C code>: ? |
| 04:51.13 | Dekuna | AceEvent-2.0-23383 (FuBar):251: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 04:51.13 | Dekuna | AceEvent-2.0-23383 (FuBar):992: in function <...face\AddOns\FuBar\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:990> |
| 04:51.15 | Dekuna | <in C code>: ? |
| 04:51.17 | Dekuna | AceEvent-2.0-23383 (FuBar):427: in function <...face\AddOns\FuBar\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:403> |
| 04:51.21 | Dekuna | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.24 | ckknight | don't do that. |
| 04:51.26 | ckknight | make a pastey. |
| 04:51.27 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:51.28 | Dekuna | ack, sorry |
| 04:51.29 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 04:51.38 | anenigma | ckknight: I understood what it meant, I just don't believe that it is a word. Or at least, you made it into a new word :P |
| 04:51.52 | ckknight | anenigma: :-P |
| 04:51.58 | Funkeh` | have a good nght folks |
| 04:52.02 | Funkeh` | night even |
| 04:52.03 | ckknight | Dekuna: inform Kemayo :-P |
| 04:52.04 | anenigma | night Funkeh` |
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| 04:54.00 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25747 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - removed the old currentYardWidth stuff. |
| 05:06.24 | Kemayo | ckknight / Dekuna: I have no idea. Didn't change it, myself. |
| 05:12.46 | fatbrain | hrm, I'm a bit rusty on the 1803 game-linguistics, Sprite == ? Couldn't I just call it a bitmap!? |
| 05:12.59 | Diabolic-Destiny | no told me how i should go about fixing battleground fu |
| 05:13.00 | Diabolic-Destiny | ... |
| 05:13.07 | Diabolic-Destiny | what tools do i need? |
| 05:13.28 | Diabolic-Destiny | btw i know -100% about codeing |
| 05:13.45 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: then you can't do jack-shit |
| 05:13.55 | anenigma | I recommend a 6mm spanner, 3 inches of grey string, and some grass clippings |
| 05:13.56 | fatbrain | You'd just have to wait til someone with coding-skills fix it. |
| 05:14.05 | fatbrain | lol |
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| 05:14.33 | anenigma | Sorry, I'm at working and trying to humour myself. |
| 05:14.44 | Diabolic-Destiny | why cant i do nething? |
| 05:14.53 | Diabolic-Destiny | doesn't one need to start somehwere? |
| 05:15.13 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: With the coding part? |
| 05:15.28 | Diabolic-Destiny | well yea, |
| 05:15.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | i wanna fix battleground fu |
| 05:15.34 | fatbrain | Browse the .lua's |
| 05:15.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | as i get many startup errors |
| 05:15.47 | Diabolic-Destiny | Tried that, i dont understand em |
| 05:15.53 | fatbrain | What does the error-message tell you? |
| 05:16.12 | fatbrain | It usually gives you a point of origin and a reason |
| 05:16.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | something bout actionbars |
| 05:16.26 | fatbrain | like foo.lua, line 333, "You tried to do something illegal!!" |
| 05:16.48 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: Then it has most likely nothing to do with the FuBattleground |
| 05:17.07 | Diabolic-Destiny | Glory-2.0-22782 (FuBar_BattlegroundFu):779: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'time' (a nil value) |
| 05:17.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | <in C code>: ? |
| 05:17.20 | fatbrain | If you want to troubleshoot an addon, you'd be best if ya disable all addons not related to the one you'r trying to fix |
| 05:17.24 | Diabolic-Destiny | FuBar-2.0.24665\FuBar.lua:631: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:627> |
| 05:17.49 | Diabolic-Destiny | iuno what it was goin nuts over |
| 05:18.13 | fatbrain | well, you have to to through the code around line 779 in FuBar_BattlegroundFU.... |
| 05:18.28 | fatbrain | like, try to figure out why it may have gotten a nil value instead of a numerical one. |
| 05:18.31 | *** part/#wowace Nayon (n=MeflakCa@pool-72-74-232-52.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:18.51 | fatbrain | 99% of the time it's because developers are lazy, not coding slick tight "error-phrone" code |
| 05:19.16 | fatbrain | amagad, out of coffee already |
| 05:20.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | <in C code>: ? |
| 05:20.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | <in C code>: in function `pcall' |
| 05:20.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | FuBar-24665\FuBar.lua:631: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:627> |
| 05:20.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | FuBar-24665\FuBar.lua:913: in function `LoadPlugin' |
| 05:20.05 | Diabolic-Destiny | FuBar-24665\FuBar.lua:1026: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:1017> |
| 05:20.07 | Diabolic-Destiny | <in C code>: ? |
| 05:20.09 | Diabolic-Destiny | AceEvent-2.0-23383 (FuBar):427: in function <...face\AddOns\FuBar\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:403> |
| 05:20.11 | Diabolic-Destiny | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | i hope you got that.. |
| 05:20.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | maybe you can help me :P |
| 05:20.43 | anenigma | Diabolic-Destiny: http://ace.pastey.net/ <-- please use :D |
| 05:21.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | what is that? |
| 05:21.18 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: You running the latest version of FuBar!? |
| 05:21.23 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: it's a paste-bin |
| 05:21.24 | Soulless | anybody know of a good working mage mod a la necrosis? |
| 05:21.26 | anenigma | lets you paste errors into a webpage, _not_ into IRC |
| 05:21.33 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: You paste stuff in there so you dont flood the channel with crap |
| 05:21.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | i was sending it as a PM to bfatbrain |
| 05:21.40 | anenigma | aka stops spam, and makes sure the error doesn't disappear as people talk |
| 05:21.48 | anenigma | Uhh.. i can quite clearly see it |
| 05:21.48 | fatbrain | Soulless: not really, if you find a good one, please let me know. |
| 05:21.54 | Diabolic-Destiny | @fatbrain that latest according to WowSVN |
| 05:21.59 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: please don't pm me. |
| 05:22.00 | Soulless | arcanum is dead/dying |
| 05:22.23 | fatbrain | I really don't like PMs, 99% of the IRC community doesn't like it either.... So it's not just me ;) |
| 05:22.31 | Soulless | i havn't try cryolosis or w/e its called ina while, but it had super bad memory leaks prebc |
| 05:22.49 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://ace.pastey.net/5356 |
| 05:23.00 | fatbrain | I'm off, need to finnish my arcanoid game in Java before sunrise |
| 05:23.00 | Diabolic-Destiny | that better? |
| 05:23.22 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: Are you using the newest version of FuBar / BattlegroundsFu? |
| 05:23.36 | Diabolic-Destiny | yep |
| 05:23.42 | Diabolic-Destiny | according to WowAceUpdater |
| 05:23.53 | fatbrain | ewww, don't use wowaceupdater |
| 05:23.58 | fatbrain | it corruptes your addon folder |
| 05:23.58 | anenigma | I can look into it when I get home (~2 hours), but I'm at work atm, so :/ |
| 05:24.10 | fatbrain | remove all ace addons and update them manually. |
| 05:24.31 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: that will resolve your problem. |
| 05:24.32 | Diabolic-Destiny | but its the only one that has errors |
| 05:24.40 | Diabolic-Destiny | n i tried tht |
| 05:24.41 | fatbrain | Then remove and reinstall that one manually |
| 05:24.53 | fatbrain | You have to remove both FuBar and BattlegroundFu |
| 05:25.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | i c |
| 05:25.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | let me try |
| 05:25.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | i gues no harm |
| 05:25.57 | fatbrain | I think wowaceupdater "forgets" to remove the old-content before extracting the archives. |
| 05:26.36 | Thorgard | There's an option to delete what's there before extracting the new version, though. |
| 05:27.11 | fatbrain | good |
| 05:27.33 | Dekuna | fatbrain: that option has been in WAU for a long time |
| 05:27.43 | Diabolic-Destiny | my my my |
| 05:27.45 | Diabolic-Destiny | that fixed it |
| 05:27.46 | fatbrain | Dekuna: then it should be enabled by default. |
| 05:27.51 | fatbrain | Diabolic-Destiny: I told ya so :P |
| 05:28.09 | fatbrain | Really no point in even allowing someone to untoggle it. |
| 05:28.18 | fatbrain | should be forced since the alternative == fubar. |
| 05:28.21 | Diabolic-Destiny | i enabled that option |
| 05:28.27 | Diabolic-Destiny | to delete b4 extracting |
| 05:28.28 | fatbrain | and I didn't mean the addon fubar. |
| 05:28.40 | Diabolic-Destiny | xcept itl b a pain for cartographer |
| 05:28.44 | Diabolic-Destiny | since itl redl everything |
| 05:28.52 | fatbrain | redl?! |
| 05:29.04 | fatbrain | You've officially stopped making sense .P |
| 05:29.15 | fatbrain | itl!? |
| 05:29.19 | Dekuna | fatbrain: there's also another option to replace every addon, including externals, with whatever the /files or SVN has |
| 05:29.42 | Dekuna | SkipVersionCheck will update everything regardless of its version |
| 05:29.53 | fatbrain | Dekuna: I ran the updater, installed XXX including externals ==> fubar |
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| 05:30.03 | Dekuna | i do it periodically to make sure my externals are good |
| 05:30.07 | fatbrain | But that was before the new version was released tho |
| 05:30.17 | Dekuna | well, i've used WAU for ages, with no problems |
| 05:30.17 | fatbrain | and also, it's beta, so I don't really complain. |
| 05:30.26 | Dekuna | this is true |
| 05:30.46 | Tain | I get tested periodically to make sure my externals are good. Always wait anxiously for the call from the doctor. |
| 05:30.57 | [FH]Birdemani | yea |
| 05:31.03 | [FH]Birdemani | quest fu is fully borked |
| 05:32.01 | fatbrain | Chromometer author online?! |
| 05:32.05 | fatbrain | Chronometer* |
| 05:32.05 | Dekuna | Birdemani: i noticed :( |
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| 05:36.49 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r25748 10Baggins/ (Baggins-deDE.lua Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): |
| 05:36.49 | CIA-17 | Baggins: - Added all remaining Options that where market as "TODO: LOCALE" from Baggins.lua to Baggins-enUS.lua |
| 05:36.49 | CIA-17 | - Updated deDE Translation |
| 05:38.44 | Kemayo | Dekuna: I won't have time to check it out until tomorrow. In the meantime, that's a bug that occasionally gets reported due to, ckknight said a while ago, minorly incompatible revisions of Tablet upgrading themselves. |
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| 05:40.58 | Kemayo | Dekuna: Note that rev 25722 of Tablet (circa this evening) seems to imply that it shouldn't be complaining about not having title set any more, so you might want to make sure you have the latest version. |
| 05:41.06 | [FH]Birdemani | someone please fix questfu :/ |
| 05:41.13 | [FH]Birdemani | oh |
| 05:41.14 | [FH]Birdemani | nm |
| 05:41.17 | [FH]Birdemani | just saw that kem |
| 05:41.42 | [FH]Birdemani | if i delete the sv will it fix it? |
| 05:42.03 | Kemayo | (I have trouble reproducing this sort of bug because I use standalones, and this is very much an embedded-lib problem.) |
| 05:42.11 | Kemayo | [FH]Birdemani: Probably not. |
| 05:44.56 | ckknight | I bet I know the issue, too |
| 05:47.18 | ckknight | yea, I do |
| 05:47.20 | ckknight | lemme fix |
| 05:47.24 | vith_ | is cartographer broken currently? |
| 05:47.29 | vith_ | my worldmap is default |
| 05:47.30 | zoomjr | somthing wrong with Cartografer? |
| 05:47.41 | vith_ | yet the addon is loaded |
| 05:48.29 | zoomjr | for me marks of mining/herb moving ith me ^) on minimap atleast^) |
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| 05:48.36 | zoomjr | *with |
| 05:49.58 | ckknight | vith_: fully exit WoW |
| 05:50.00 | ckknight | goddammit |
| 05:50.09 | ckknight | why won't you people fully exit WoW before updating? |
| 05:50.14 | [FH]Birdemani | heh |
| 05:50.24 | Kemayo | I mostly don't because I'm lazy. |
| 05:50.31 | ckknight | seriously, fake bug reports like that piss me off |
| 05:50.36 | Kemayo | (And it's very rare that people move files around.) |
| 05:50.51 | Kemayo | But I will totally restart WoW before I start complaining about bugs! |
| 05:51.39 | Veight | Hmm.. Anyone else think that a warcraft movie is a bad idea? |
| 05:52.04 | [FH]Birdemani | not really |
| 05:52.09 | [FH]Birdemani | just wish it was fmv |
| 05:52.43 | vith_ | i never update with wow running |
| 05:52.48 | ggilbert | I don't think it's a bad idea, but I doubt it will end well |
| 05:53.14 | Tain | I'm holding out for a World of Whorecraft movie. |
| 05:53.57 | waffle | There already is one |
| 05:53.59 | ggilbert | blizzard has an interesting universe they could do a movie in, but it'll probably be half assed like most video game/comic movies |
| 05:54.09 | vid` | tain been one |
| 05:54.16 | vid` | they are already making a sequel |
| 05:54.21 | vid` | :P |
| 05:54.30 | vid` | whorecraft.com i think (nsfw) |
| 05:54.31 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25749 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - hopefully fix upgrading errors |
| 05:54.55 | vid` | thats not it |
| 05:54.58 | vid` | i cant remember site |
| 05:54.58 | vid` | lol |
| 05:55.00 | [FH]Birdemani | ckk: if i do that, it should fix questfu right now? |
| 05:55.07 | ckknight | theoretically. |
| 05:55.10 | ckknight | here's hoping. |
| 05:55.12 | vid` | http://www.whorecraft.net/ |
| 05:55.13 | [FH]Birdemani | let me check for you |
| 05:55.14 | vid` | there it is |
| 05:55.26 | Tain | Only ever saw the initial splash page saying, "coming soon" or somesuch. |
| 05:55.31 | vid` | oh sequel is out, calm before the storm :P |
| 05:55.40 | Tain | After they didn't od anything with it for months I figured it was just nonsense. |
| 05:56.00 | vid` | oh wow |
| 05:56.02 | vid` | they are up to episode 5 |
| 05:56.04 | vid` | lol |
| 05:56.20 | Veight | ggilbert: They have over a billion dollars to spend on it from us buying wow alone. It better be damn good. |
| 05:56.25 | Gamefaq | by the way ck when you say "piss me off" the german servers currently pis me off... its 6.55 am and our complete serverpool = 15 de-EU servers is the third time gone offline this night |
| 05:56.32 | Tain | Yeah and I'm going to not only pay for an episode, but pay for an episode that is 10 minutes long? |
| 05:56.33 | ckknight | holy hell. |
| 05:56.35 | Tain | I don't think so. |
| 05:56.40 | Gnarfoz_ | ckknight: now that tablets dont require a title anymore, notes with multiple lines always have the first one bolded (I remember reporting something similar a while ago, didn't know what caused it then) - noticeable on those new 'combined' tooltips for notes (like: flight master in bold, questgiver right next to him: nonbold) |
| 05:56.42 | ckknight | sucks, mate |
| 05:57.00 | ckknight | Gnarfoz_: gah |
| 05:57.01 | Gnarfoz_ | Gamefaq: rp2? |
| 05:57.47 | Gamefaq | rp2? |
| 05:58.08 | Tain | Woah they got actual porn stars to do them? Like well known name porn stars. |
| 06:00.05 | zoomjr | well ... cartografer marks on minimap still moving with me .... even after restart wow |
| 06:00.09 | Gamefaq | Gnarfoz: ahh now o got what you ask, i think it is realpool 2 |
| 06:00.46 | ckknight | zoomjr: I'll look into it |
| 06:01.15 | Gamefaq | Gnarfoz-: i play EU-DE Kill´Jaeden |
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| 06:04.07 | Sparhawke | anyone know what a Mana Loom is, and where I can find one? |
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| 06:05.11 | kaiden | Anyone know how to cast a spell (one that buffs a weapon) and have it go to a specific weapon .. one that doesn't allow spell targetting |
| 06:05.12 | waffle | There's one in Shattrath |
| 06:05.56 | xlvii | what instance should i do at 56? |
| 06:06.30 | fatbrain | BRD? |
| 06:06.38 | fatbrain | BRD or LBRS |
| 06:06.54 | xlvii | thanks fatbrain |
| 06:06.57 | fatbrain | np |
| 06:09.04 | kaiden | nobody at all? :( |
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| 06:11.05 | Sparhawke | where is it in Strattath? |
| 06:12.12 | waffle | ask a guard |
| 06:13.02 | anenigma | You'd think people would cotton on to the whole "ask a guard" thing by now |
| 06:13.21 | anenigma | First thing i did in shattrath is ask a guard directions, just to see what was there |
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| 06:15.45 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25750 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 06:15.45 | CIA-17 | .Babble-Zone-2.2 - added Azeroth, Eastern Kingdoms, Kalimdor, Outland, and Cosmic map. |
| 06:15.45 | CIA-17 | I know they're not "real" zones. They should still be available. |
| 06:21.37 | Gnarfoz_ | ckknight: also, tablet text seems to get stripped of colour codes when combined into a combined tooltip (_herbalism's tooltips state the name of the herb node in green, when combined, the line is simply white) |
| 06:21.52 | ckknight | that's cause Herbalism does it weird |
| 06:21.54 | ckknight | don't worry about it. |
| 06:22.15 | ckknight | it overwrites the OnNoteTooltipRequest but not OnNoteTooltipLineRequest |
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| 06:22.38 | Gnarfoz_ | ah |
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| 06:24.05 | kaiden | Does anyone know of a way to unequip an item easily something quick i could through in a macro or know a way to force a shaman spell onto a specific weapon |
| 06:24.18 | tlund | ckknight: do you have any time over at all for playing? :) |
| 06:24.29 | ckknight | not much |
| 06:24.32 | ckknight | been playing a little since TBC |
| 06:24.32 | Prophyy | is there a way for baggins to display the amount of gold?? |
| 06:24.38 | Sparhawke | a guard will not tell you where a mana loom is |
| 06:24.42 | Sparhawke | thats a silly suggestion |
| 06:24.52 | ckknight | yes they will. |
| 06:24.52 | tlund | ckknight: i maintain all of my guild webservers, teamspeak and such, including developement, plus a few addons |
| 06:24.59 | ckknight | alright |
| 06:25.02 | tlund | ckknight: and i spend way too much on that |
| 06:25.10 | tlund | ckknight: you spend about 20 times more ;) |
| 06:25.27 | Sparhawke | wow excuse me |
| 06:25.30 | Sparhawke | I guess he does |
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| 06:29.27 | [FH]Birdemani | so |
| 06:29.34 | [FH]Birdemani | standalonelibs doesnt have all the libs anymore? |
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| 06:31.15 | [FH]Birdemani | jostle, tourist, roster, fubar plugin, tiblib, one storage |
| 06:31.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | does sw stats count overhealing? |
| 06:31.18 | [FH]Birdemani | seem to be missing |
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| 06:32.56 | [FH]Birdemani | or they are |
| 06:32.57 | [FH]Birdemani | ugh |
| 06:33.01 | [FH]Birdemani | what did i screw up then? |
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| 06:36.17 | Dhraga | Morning |
| 06:37.02 | nae|lap | Prophyy: No, there's not. |
| 06:37.02 | ZealotOnAStick | RaydenUnicyclist: depends on how you configure it. |
| 06:37.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | huh? |
| 06:37.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Set a tab to healing, and then there's drop-downs that appear just for healing. |
| 06:37.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | what configuring is there? |
| 06:37.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 06:37.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Effective healing, total healing, other stuff. |
| 06:37.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | tab? |
| 06:37.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 06:37.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Or it can do -just- overhealing if you want. |
| 06:37.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'll check that out |
| 06:39.15 | ckknight | well, I added a cool feature to Cartographer |
| 06:39.27 | anenigma | ckknight: blackjack and hookers? |
| 06:39.29 | ckknight | well, Tourist, which Cartographer is using |
| 06:39.32 | ckknight | close, anenigma |
| 06:39.40 | ckknight | you'll be able to get the distance from one point to any other point on the map |
| 06:39.48 | ckknight | as long as you're on the same planet |
| 06:39.55 | anenigma | Nice :) |
| 06:39.59 | ckknight | you'll be able to get the distance from any one zone to any other zone |
| 06:40.09 | ckknight | even if you zoom in and such |
| 06:40.12 | anenigma | Now I can tell people "X is 456 yards away" when they're lost |
| 06:40.18 | ckknight | well, no |
| 06:40.27 | anenigma | I can't? |
| 06:40.28 | ckknight | for Coords, it works from your position to where you're pointing |
| 06:40.39 | anenigma | Oh, one point has to be "me" ? |
| 06:40.41 | ckknight | yea. |
| 06:40.46 | ckknight | that's how it works currently. |
| 06:41.07 | ckknight | either way, it's in coords now. |
| 06:41.14 | ckknight | now to add it to notes |
| 06:41.22 | anenigma | Is that because of what's been coded now, or limitation in WoW/lua/something ? |
| 06:41.30 | Gnarfoz_ | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
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| 06:41.46 | [FH]Birdemani | btw ckk |
| 06:41.49 | Gnarfoz_ | i just fucking disenchanted my T2 leggins... ACCIDENTALLY :| |
| 06:41.54 | [FH]Birdemani | that tablet change didnt fix questfu |
| 06:42.01 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:42.02 | ckknight | oh well |
| 06:42.06 | ckknight | update all your Tablets, then. |
| 06:42.23 | anenigma | Gnarfoz_: No biggie, should be replaced soon :P Anyway, is there a "DELETE" box to fill in for that? |
| 06:42.35 | Gnarfoz_ | NO THERE ISN'T AHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 06:42.37 | Gnarfoz_ | xD |
| 06:42.38 | ckknight | anenigma: way it's coded |
| 06:42.40 | [FH]Birdemani | not sure how to do that |
| 06:42.57 | durcyn | anenigma: only for delete, not disenchant |
| 06:42.58 | Gnarfoz_ | anenigma: I was just comparing some very nearly as good green leggins |
| 06:43.07 | Gnarfoz_ | and decided I'd keep my t2 for now |
| 06:43.17 | anenigma | I might do some poking around tonight, see if I can get distances between 2 points (as well as heading) going |
| 06:43.27 | Gnarfoz_ | and disenchanted them right afterwards because they have the same icon and somehow the tooltip didn't update correctly |
| 06:45.45 | [FH]Birdemani | ckk: all the items on my mini map are now scrolling with the map |
| 06:45.53 | [FH]Birdemani | so i have these pink circles on my map at all times |
| 06:45.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:45.59 | ckknight | I don't get that. |
| 06:46.07 | [FH]Birdemani | i also use simple mini map |
| 06:46.09 | ckknight | where are you? |
| 06:46.15 | [FH]Birdemani | zanger |
| 06:46.45 | [FH]Birdemani | this is new |
| 06:46.50 | [FH]Birdemani | per my last wau update |
| 06:46.57 | [FH]Birdemani | and i did a full new install of delete/update |
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| 06:50.35 | TongueSlappingWo | Does anyone know the status of Auctioneer? |
| 06:50.59 | nae|lap | check auctioneeraddon.com? |
| 06:52.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | that sucks Gnarfoz_ |
| 06:53.05 | Gnarfoz_ | the green ones are just about as good, tho. losing about 4 AP and some dodge this way |
| 06:53.13 | Gnarfoz_ | (greens have AP, t2 has agi) |
| 06:54.00 | anenigma | I lost a roll on a green upgrade/sidegrade to my DD helm. To a druid. An oomkin specced druid :/ |
| 06:54.19 | Gnarfoz_ | can drop again, I'm not going to MC again, tho :p |
| 06:54.34 | anenigma | yeah for sure |
| 06:54.41 | Gnarfoz_ | but to work, I am going... later guys ^^ |
| 06:58.08 | anenigma | haha |
| 06:58.13 | anenigma | i'm about to head home \o/ |
| 07:06.29 | nae|lap | off to work here soon too ;) |
| 07:12.33 | DrZoot | is there some documentation/examples on how to use the new secure frames? |
| 07:17.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | so, of the lvl 50 priest quest items, only the wand looks good |
| 07:17.28 | RaydenUnicyclist | i guess the one that adds healing is nice |
| 07:17.32 | NightHawkTheSane | get the prayer beads. |
| 07:17.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | why? |
| 07:17.57 | RaydenUnicyclist | the ring sucks i think |
| 07:18.03 | NightHawkTheSane | because that's the only thing that you really wont replace easily |
| 07:18.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | +6 shadow resistance and +14 spell hit |
| 07:18.17 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r25751 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: |
| 07:18.17 | CIA-17 | Cartographer : |
| 07:18.17 | CIA-17 | - Ipdate locale koKR |
| 07:18.24 | RaydenUnicyclist | is it any good? |
| 07:18.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | 20 seconds of +190 healing |
| 07:18.36 | xlvii | What level is Lower Blackrock Spire? Would a group of 56+ be alright? |
| 07:18.45 | RaydenUnicyclist | that just adds 190 straight up to a healing spell? |
| 07:19.43 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUnicyclist: yes it's rather good. And it's not 190 straight up +heal, it depends on the spell. THings like GHeal and REnew will get the full 190, but flash heal gets less. |
| 07:19.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not 100% sure on the percentages. |
| 07:19.48 | RaydenUnicyclist | whether its greater heal or flash heal? |
| 07:19.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 07:19.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | darn |
| 07:19.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | cause then just spam flash heal |
| 07:20.00 | NightHawkTheSane | It depends on the spell's rank/level and cast time |
| 07:20.10 | NightHawkTheSane | to determine how much % of +heal it gets |
| 07:20.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | so its rather good when in a dungeon and everyone starts dying? |
| 07:20.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it's a nice trinket to pop when for burst damage. and it's only a 2m cooldown which means it's up often |
| 07:21.04 | Mikma | ckknight: did you see this? http://wow.reaktio.net/cart1.jpg :D |
| 07:21.30 | ckknight | don't know what're you're referring to |
| 07:21.35 | NightHawkTheSane | For straight-up healing, there arn't many trinkets you'll get for a good while that match that. You can get a better wand easily enough, esp with TBC greens showing up now |
| 07:21.43 | Mikma | bah, use your eyes |
| 07:21.54 | Mikma | look at the location |
| 07:21.59 | ckknight | I'm gonna go back to what I was doing. |
| 07:21.59 | Mikma | (the text) |
| 07:22.22 | [FH]Birdemani | ckk: is there a way to turn off the mini map stuff till you fix it? |
| 07:22.33 | Mikma | Exodar, Alchemist Trainers [1-10] |
| 07:22.40 | ckknight | yes, by stopping bothering me and letting me fix it. |
| 07:22.49 | Mikma | sorry a buch asswipe |
| 07:23.00 | Mikma | s/buch/bunch/ |
| 07:23.09 | ckknight | Mikma: just when you hover over the alchemist? |
| 07:23.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | 2min cooldown is nice NightHawkTheSane. they should mention that in the stats |
| 07:23.39 | Mikma | ckknight: the thing is, i did something else, like mouseover some position then went back to alchemy traieners |
| 07:23.45 | ckknight | odd |
| 07:23.46 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 07:23.48 | Mikma | i'll try to reproduce is |
| 07:23.56 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUnicyclist: yeah, it's really unfortunate that items with CD's down list WHAT the CD is on the item. >< |
| 07:24.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | if its an hour, then its useles |
| 07:24.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | 2min is really nice |
| 07:24.49 | ckknight | Mikma: if you feel like calling me an asswipe when I'm working on the mod itself, then I hope you realize that you don't have to use it. |
| 07:25.07 | Mikma | whatever |
| 07:25.34 | Mikma | i'm trying to explain something and get this as a reply: <@ckknight> yes, by stopping bothering me and letting me fix it. |
| 07:25.45 | ckknight | wasn't referring to you. |
| 07:25.56 | ckknight | notice how [FH]Birdemani was also talking to me |
| 07:26.20 | Mikma | well notice how i was talking to you too O_O if this is the case, sorry for calling you an asswipe |
| 07:26.27 | Kaelten | bah gold people trying to get me to let them advertise on wowace |
| 07:26.36 | ckknight | bah. |
| 07:26.55 | Mikma | Kaelten: hahaha, let them but only in the page you decide |
| 07:27.08 | Mikma | like http://www.wowace.com/assclown.html |
| 07:27.11 | Mikma | and don't link it anywhere |
| 07:27.37 | ckknight | or do it in a hidden div |
| 07:27.39 | ckknight | those are fun. |
| 07:28.02 | ckknight | display:none |
| 07:28.29 | Mikma | or, a hidden page with hidden div! |
| 07:28.39 | Mikma | there! gief me addmoney. |
| 07:28.59 | ckknight | no, the hidden div will increase the counter of people "seeing" it |
| 07:29.05 | ckknight | without people actually having the ad there. |
| 07:29.10 | Mikma | lol |
| 07:29.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | Mikma bad link |
| 07:29.27 | Mikma | orly? |
| 07:29.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | 404 |
| 07:29.36 | Mikma | well how about http://www.wowace.com/isuckass.html? |
| 07:29.44 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 07:29.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | i wasn't following the conversation |
| 07:29.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | just alt-tabbed from the game |
| 07:30.08 | Mikma | aww you spoiled my fun :( |
| 07:30.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | how much is critical strike rating 14? |
| 07:30.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | i can't find that stat on my character anywhere |
| 07:31.24 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUnicyclist: depends on your level, really. not sure at 50. Get the Rating Buster addon (its on wowi), it will list the percentage for your level in parentheses in the tooltip |
| 07:31.28 | RaydenUnicyclist | but they mostly care about clicks |
| 07:31.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | percentage of what? |
| 07:32.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | it tells me the percentage of crit |
| 07:32.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | chance |
| 07:33.16 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. crit rating increases your chance to crit. the rating -> formula depends on your level. |
| 07:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | like, for example, at level 60, 14 melee crit rating is 1% crit. |
| 07:33.54 | Meiun|| | get RatingBuster |
| 07:33.55 | Meiun|| | :> |
| 07:34.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Yes. :) |
| 07:36.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | just go it |
| 07:36.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | got it |
| 07:36.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | hmm, ace2, but not part of the svn? |
| 07:36.17 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:36.29 | Meiun|| | its on /files iirc |
| 07:37.09 | NightHawkTheSane | is it? i couldn't remember. |
| 07:37.10 | Meiun|| | nope :T |
| 07:37.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | aceupdater doesn't see it |
| 07:39.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | spell critical strike rating 14 is 1.18% at lvl 52 |
| 07:41.20 | [FH]Birdemani | its on wowi i know |
| 07:46.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | thottbot says the necklace is pretty much the only one to get |
| 07:46.35 | RaydenUnicyclist | the ring sucks and you can get a better wand at mauradon |
| 07:46.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | necklace is good all the way till 60 |
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| 07:59.09 | Kaelten-Laptop | ckknight: I think you guys broke tablet :( |
| 07:59.16 | ckknight | yea, I know. |
| 07:59.25 | Kaelten-Laptop | fixing it? |
| 07:59.29 | ckknight | no, not right now |
| 07:59.33 | ckknight | maybe later |
| 07:59.37 | Kaelten-Laptop | .... |
| 08:00.19 | Kaelten-Laptop | what rev was the last good one? |
| 08:00.57 | Kemayo | 24406 was almost certainly good. |
| 08:01.04 | RaydenUnicyclist | tablet? |
| 08:01.35 | ckknight | basically, no one gave me an error, I couldn't tell what was wrong, so I went back to working on Cart |
| 08:01.53 | Kaelten-Laptop | [2007/01/22 01:58:41-572-x1]: Tablet-2.0-25749 (Bartender3):2788: attempt to index global 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 08:02.04 | Kaelten-Laptop | [2007/01/22 01:58:41-572-x1]: Tablet-2.0-25749 (Bartender3):2847: attempt to call method 'children' (a nil value) |
| 08:02.05 | Kaelten-Laptop | AceEvent-2.0-23383 (Ace2):757: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:751> |
| 08:02.07 | Kaelten-Laptop | <in C code>: ? |
| 08:02.08 | Kaelten-Laptop | AceEvent-2.0-23383 (Ace2):427: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:403> |
| 08:02.40 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is ToEP? |
| 08:02.48 | ckknight | fixed. |
| 08:02.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25752 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - typo |
| 08:02.56 | ckknight | sorry bout that. |
| 08:03.00 | Mikma | i think wiw doesn't like jumping |
| 08:05.31 | Kaelten-Laptop | ckknight: thanks much :) |
| 08:05.41 | ckknight | well, I was able to pay for my shiny new code editor (TextMate) with donation money |
| 08:05.48 | ckknight | makes me feel good :-) |
| 08:05.53 | |Kev| | I love textmate |
| 08:05.55 | ckknight | just gotta continue the cycle ad nauseum |
| 08:05.56 | Kaelten-Laptop | TextMate? |
| 08:06.02 | anenigma | macro issue. "/cast [target=focus, exists, nodead] Power Infusion ; [target=self] Power Infusion" <--broken :/ |
| 08:06.04 | Kaelten-Laptop | mac prog? |
| 08:06.06 | ckknight | Kaelten-Laptop: extremely good text editor, Mac only |
| 08:06.12 | |Kev| | well |
| 08:06.20 | ckknight | well? |
| 08:06.23 | |Kev| | the text editor's not the great bit, the great bits are the scripts :) |
| 08:06.29 | ckknight | well, yes. |
| 08:06.39 | ckknight | I actually have yet to harness such power |
| 08:06.47 | |Kev| | which is why I greatly object to him charging for it, when it's other people's scripts that make it good :( |
| 08:06.56 | |Kev| | but that's another rant |
| 08:07.09 | ckknight | yea, oh well |
| 08:07.16 | ckknight | I'd've preferred not to pay |
| 08:07.27 | ckknight | but really, I'd rather pay than have to use something else |
| 08:07.34 | |Kev| | he uses almost entirely oss software, he claims |
| 08:07.41 | |Kev| | almost all the users of textmate are oss developers |
| 08:07.49 | Kaelten-Laptop | I'd love to find a perfect text editor for windows. :( |
| 08:07.59 | |Kev| | and he charges them for the editor they use to make software which he uses for free |
| 08:08.03 | |Kev| | seems completely immoral |
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| 08:12.08 | Mikma | Kemayo: yo? |
| 08:12.24 | Kemayo | Mikma: Da? |
| 08:12.37 | Mikma | Kemayo: a request / idea for QuestsFu ... :) |
| 08:12.47 | Mikma | Kemayo: option to lock the size of tooltip |
| 08:13.13 | Mikma | Kemayo: like, "use 40 lines" and if it goes over that it forces the scroll to appear at the bottom of the tooltip |
| 08:13.32 | ckknight | I'm still amazed that TextMate handles Soft tabs intelligently |
| 08:13.39 | ckknight | i.e. as if they were hard tabs. |
| 08:13.51 | ckknight | instead of just <tab> inserting 4 spaces |
| 08:14.06 | |Kev| | lots of editors do that, ck |
| 08:14.12 | Kemayo | Mikma: I'm not quite sure what you mean -- could you rephrase? |
| 08:14.14 | ckknight | it's the first one I've found. |
| 08:14.24 | anenigma | heh. gotta remmeber to use target=player, not target=self |
| 08:14.36 | Mikma | Kemayo: you know when the tooltip gets too big there appears the "scroll down" line at the bottom of the tooltip? |
| 08:15.13 | Kemayo | Indeed. |
| 08:15.23 | Mikma | Kemayo: well, i an wishing that you could do a adjustable max-size for the tooltip having a slider to decide how many lines are being shown on the tooltip without showing the "scroll down" |
| 08:15.38 | Kaelten-Laptop | anyone recommend a good text editor for windows? |
| 08:15.51 | Mikma | Kemayo: i don't want my tooltip to be 200 lines long, i want it to be sized like 40 lines at max before the scroll appears :) |
| 08:16.19 | Mikma | Kemayo: and, this is _REALLY_ needed, wrapping for long questobjectives! |
| 08:16.44 | Mikma | Kemayo: if i get a really really long quest objective the tooltip i use on screen grows sideways to fill 50% of my screen :D |
| 08:17.03 | Mikma | Kemayo: (btw i use tooltip as unlocked to show my quests on screen) |
| 08:17.11 | Kemayo | Mikma: The scrolling thing would be a Tablet feature, not really on my end of things. |
| 08:17.21 | Kemayo | Mikma: Wrapping questobjectives, though, I can do. |
| 08:17.28 | Mikma | so we have to point to ckknight? |
| 08:17.53 | Kemayo | Indeed. Unless he added it sometime since I last looked at the tablet docs, which was a while now. |
| 08:18.12 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25753 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: |
| 08:18.12 | CIA-17 | .Tourist-2.0: |
| 08:18.12 | CIA-17 | - added :GetYardDistance("zone1", x1, y1, "zone2", x2, y2) |
| 08:18.12 | CIA-17 | - added :TransposeZoneCoordinate(x, y, "fromZone", "toZone") |
| 08:18.24 | ckknight | Kemayo: I didn't. |
| 08:18.50 | ckknight | ^-- those are some complex functions. |
| 08:18.54 | Mikma | Kemayo: well, for now the wrapping would be kinda cool :) |
| 08:19.20 | Mikma | ckknight: those you just added or the feature i requested? |
| 08:19.30 | ckknight | what I just added |
| 08:19.37 | ckknight | don't really plan on adding your feature any time soon |
| 08:19.51 | ckknight | it'd be complex to have defined height |
| 08:19.57 | ckknight | it's already hackish as it stands |
| 08:20.55 | Mikma | okiedokie |
| 08:23.44 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25754 10Cartographer/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:23.44 | CIA-17 | Cartographer: |
| 08:23.44 | CIA-17 | - removed :GetDistanceSquaredToPoint |
| 08:23.44 | CIA-17 | - added :GetCurrentPlayerPosition(), gets the position of the player as if looking at the zoomed-in map, even if the map is actually zoomed out or the player not visible. |
| 08:23.44 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-Coordinates - now shows distance anywhere on the map. |
| 08:23.45 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-Notes - Ibid. |
| 08:24.18 | ckknight | please test |
| 08:24.31 | Mikma | ok then |
| 08:24.44 | ckknight | it may fix the issue with notes following people |
| 08:25.11 | Mikma | moment ago my minimap icons were following me. did /rl and fixed |
| 08:25.48 | Mikma | ?"&?!#% babble-errors. |
| 08:25.57 | Mikma | Translation "Azeroth" does not exist. |
| 08:26.05 | ckknight | you're foreign? |
| 08:26.09 | Mikma | enGB |
| 08:26.13 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 08:26.15 | ckknight | oh |
| 08:26.17 | ckknight | um |
| 08:26.20 | ckknight | update Babble-Zone |
| 08:26.23 | Mikma | do i need to relog |
| 08:26.24 | ckknight | I did a commit for it |
| 08:26.36 | Mikma | Fetching external item into 'Cartographer/Libs/Babble-Zone-2.2' |
| 08:26.36 | Mikma | Updated external to revision 25528. |
| 08:26.44 | Mikma | didn't update it for some reason |
| 08:26.51 | Mikma | oh well i'll just massupdate all my addons now |
| 08:26.54 | Mikma | and relog to test |
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| 08:27.22 | Mikma | oh look, Sairen! |
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| 08:32.32 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25755 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - raise the framelevel of party/raid icons, so that they're above notes. |
| 08:35.02 | ckknight | what should I call my Guild roster library? |
| 08:35.21 | Kaelten-Laptop | RollCall? |
| 08:35.28 | ckknight | ooh, good one. |
| 08:36.08 | Kaelten-Laptop | :) |
| 08:36.19 | Mikma | ckknight: translation "Azeroth" does not exist |
| 08:36.29 | ckknight | Mikma: take a look in Babble-Zone |
| 08:36.37 | ckknight | Azeroth should be under enUS |
| 08:37.07 | Mikma | ckknight: "Not found" |
| 08:37.56 | ckknight | um, Kaelten-Laptop, can you check Babble-Zone-2.2 to see if Azeroth exists in it? |
| 08:38.31 | Mikma | now i added it. and, Translation "Cosmic map" does not exist. |
| 08:39.15 | ckknight | add that, too |
| 08:39.29 | ckknight | and also Eastern Kingdoms, Kalimdor, and Outland |
| 08:40.26 | Kaelten-Laptop | ckknight: ya azeroth is there |
| 08:40.32 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:40.38 | Mikma | oh right, cosmic map, the one big map :) |
| 08:40.47 | ckknight | Mikma: Kaelten sees it. |
| 08:41.06 | Mikma | umf, wtf. am i using an outdated svn then |
| 08:41.16 | Kaelten-Laptop | whats the link? |
| 08:41.40 | Mikma | i'm using 65.110.63.200 svn.wowace.com |
| 08:41.53 | Kaelten-Laptop | ya.... thats not going to be good probably |
| 08:42.01 | Kaelten-Laptop | server ip is 209.9.227.66 |
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| 08:42.27 | Mikma | Kaelten-Laptop: svn = that ip? |
| 08:42.40 | Kaelten-Laptop | well dev.wowace.com is |
| 08:44.00 | Mikma | well the externals aren't pointed into dev.wowace.com |
| 08:44.07 | Mikma | i'll just try that instead |
| 08:44.21 | Kaelten-Laptop | are you using a hosts file to short cut to the server? |
| 08:44.59 | Kaelten-Laptop | externals should point to svn.wowace.com |
| 08:45.10 | Mikma | they did :) |
| 08:45.20 | Mikma | i had the line i pasted you in my /etc/hosts |
| 08:45.43 | Kaelten-Laptop | wwell point the externals back to svn.wowace.com |
| 08:45.49 | Mikma | PING svn.wowace.com (91.121.2.173): 56 data bytes |
| 08:45.55 | Mikma | ok now it's updated, i'll try again |
| 08:45.57 | Kaelten-Laptop | and take that line out of your hosts :) |
| 08:45.59 | DrZoot | has anyone got a second to explain protected frames/code to me (or point me in the direction of a good tutorial) |
| 08:46.35 | Mikma | there we go.. now it updated |
| 08:46.42 | Mikma | the ip i had seems to be outdated |
| 08:47.00 | ckknight | DrZoot: I don't even know the intricacies... |
| 08:47.08 | Kaelten-Laptop | ya when we moved servers we changes up the hosts and mirrors for the svn |
| 08:47.10 | Mikma | i think i'll try pointing svn.wowace.com to dev.wowace.com |
| 08:47.18 | Mikma | that way it should always be working hehe |
| 08:47.36 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25756 10RollCall-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:47.36 | CIA-17 | RollCall-1.0 - initial commit |
| 08:47.36 | CIA-17 | A library to provide an easy way to get information about guild members. |
| 08:47.39 | ckknight | not sure hosts works that way. |
| 08:47.53 | Mikma | 209.9.227.66 svn.wowace.com |
| 08:47.55 | Mikma | should work |
| 08:48.02 | vith_ | cartographer still doesn't work for me (just updated again) |
| 08:48.29 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25757 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/RollCall-1.0/: !!!StandaloneLibraries - add RollCall-1.0 |
| 08:48.42 | Kaelten-Laptop | hrm probably not |
| 08:48.56 | Kaelten-Laptop | since 209.9.227.66 is a proxy |
| 08:49.05 | DrZoot | I cant quite get my head around the way the protected frames are even supposed to work, you can set a frame protected, but if i understood right all code except for blizzards is automatically tainted on load |
| 08:50.16 | Kaelten-Laptop | I can't get it either, so don't feel bad |
| 08:51.00 | Mikma | DrZoot: afaik if you use the protected-functions to work with the frames they don't get tainted |
| 08:51.20 | vith_ | oh. Cartographer.lua:10: Cannot find a library instance of Crayon-2.0 |
| 08:51.22 | Nargiddley | DrZoot, you inherit from a secure template. So its blizards code that handles casting and not tainted |
| 08:51.36 | Mikma | Nargiddley: hi Mr. Frodo |
| 08:51.53 | Nargiddley | hey |
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| 08:53.16 | ckknight | Kemayo: ping |
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| 08:57.18 | Mikma | ckknight: why can't RollCall just be named "GuildInfo" |
| 08:57.28 | ckknight | because Kaelten said RollCall |
| 08:57.32 | ckknight | and it's funner. |
| 08:57.53 | ckknight | cause no one else will have any idea what it does. |
| 08:58.01 | Mikma | ooooh nice, i can see info about myself when i mouseover my icon on map |
| 08:58.07 | ckknight | yep. |
| 08:58.15 | ckknight | and any party members you hover over |
| 08:58.48 | Mikma | the neatest thing i can see is if i'm standing over a note |
| 08:59.06 | Kemayo | ckknight: You pinged? |
| 08:59.35 | ckknight | Kemayo: you mind if I steal a bunch of code from GuildFu, license it as LGPL, and give you credit? |
| 08:59.52 | ckknight | and then revamp GuildFu to use the lib |
| 09:00.22 | Mikma | ckknight: so, why are the porncircles following me in my minimap? :) |
| 09:00.47 | ckknight | Mikma: hrm, they shouldn't. |
| 09:00.55 | Mikma | they seem to follow me after login |
| 09:01.01 | ckknight | did you go in/out of a building? |
| 09:01.21 | Mikma | nope, i did logout near some herbs |
| 09:01.26 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 09:01.28 | ckknight | odd |
| 09:01.32 | ckknight | I'll look into it. |
| 09:01.34 | Kemayo | ckknight: As I did not write GuildFu, I have no objections whatsoever. :D |
| 09:01.36 | Mikma | after /rl it's usually ok |
| 09:01.39 | ckknight | crap |
| 09:01.41 | ckknight | who wrote it? |
| 09:01.49 | Adirelle|work | ~kodewulf |
| 09:01.56 | [Ammo] | Elkano |
| 09:01.56 | ckknight | ah, Elkano |
| 09:01.56 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 09:02.00 | ckknight | that crazy German... |
| 09:02.05 | Mikma | ## Author: Elkano |
| 09:02.07 | vith_ | whoever told me wowaceupdater resolves dependencies... so wrong :p |
| 09:02.09 | ckknight | blast, not on |
| 09:02.18 | ckknight | Kemayo: sorry, thought you wrote it. |
| 09:03.11 | Mikma | ckknight: how about this. you do it, and wait until Elkano gets online and ask him |
| 09:03.17 | ckknight | that's the plan. |
| 09:03.29 | ckknight | ~botmail Elkano you mind if I steal a bunch of code from GuildFu, license it as LGPL, and give you credit? |
| 09:04.03 | Adirelle|work | ~flee |
| 09:04.05 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 09:04.36 | Adirelle|work | ~seen kodewulf |
| 09:05.22 | purl | kodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-39-132.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 22h 8m 4s ago, saying: 'ckknight: wish list updated. :)'. |
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| 09:06.53 | LiquidEnforcer | hello! is anyone still alive!?? |
| 09:07.01 | Mikma | ckknight: confirmed. if i log out outside, near a herb i have picked up and quit the game, and relogin, the circles are following me on my minimap |
| 09:07.40 | ckknight | LiquidEnforcer: no. |
| 09:07.44 | ckknight | Mikma: alright |
| 09:07.47 | ckknight | I'll test |
| 09:08.08 | Mikma | ckknight: you know what would be neat for you? privateserver :O |
| 09:08.15 | ckknight | ? |
| 09:08.21 | ckknight | why? |
| 09:08.28 | Mikma | do you play WoW regularly? |
| 09:08.56 | ckknight | meh. |
| 09:09.34 | krynn | private servers are shite, currently the best built one is still at 1.12, not to mention 50% of all addons are borked even 1.12 addons |
| 09:09.57 | steev64 | ugh |
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| 09:10.15 | LiquidEnforcer | besides the fact that its not...legal... |
| 09:10.20 | steev64 | eastern kingdom just went down :( |
| 09:11.09 | steev64 | sucks cause oddly, somehow |
| 09:11.17 | steev64 | all mycharacters are there |
| 09:11.42 | LiquidEnforcer | not for long |
| 09:12.03 | LiquidEnforcer | they took the server down so they could split your chars across all 4 corners of the server universe |
| 09:12.13 | nee|work | hehe |
| 09:12.22 | LiquidEnforcer | you little dwarf hunter is gonna be in china |
| 09:12.37 | LiquidEnforcer | your human mage will be in HELL because humans ftl |
| 09:13.05 | LiquidEnforcer | gnome mage will be in my pocket, and the rest, only god knows |
| 09:13.11 | LiquidEnforcer | and by god, i mean me |
| 09:13.22 | steev64 | close |
| 09:13.28 | steev64 | almost believable |
| 09:13.31 | steev64 | except you said hunter |
| 09:13.36 | steev64 | a class i will never play |
| 09:13.48 | LiquidEnforcer | but its fun! |
| 09:14.09 | steev64 | maybe |
| 09:14.19 | LiquidEnforcer | or im a class whore....but i think its both of those |
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| 09:15.30 | LiquidEnforcer | god i love trillian |
| 09:15.33 | renchap | ckknight: updating standalonelibs with wau doesnt add you new lib to my addons |
| 09:15.51 | ckknight | renchap: you have to reinitialize the standalones |
| 09:15.56 | ckknight | so copy RollCall-1.0 out |
| 09:17.29 | [Ammo] | rollcall-1.0 seems incomplete on svn |
| 09:17.29 | LiquidEnforcer | Is anyone planning on making an Ace2 incarnation of DamageMeters/SW_Stats? |
| 09:17.36 | [Ammo] | it's just an empty thing |
| 09:17.46 | ckknight | [Ammo]: yep. |
| 09:17.55 | ckknight | does nothing yet |
| 09:21.57 | sbu | morning! |
| 09:22.05 | renchap | need to update Babble-Zone... Cartographer broken with frFR client |
| 09:23.09 | ckknight | morning, sbu |
| 09:25.53 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r25758 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 09:25.53 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:25.53 | CIA-17 | - Zone : frFR translation |
| 09:26.27 | renchap | and who brokes Fubar_QuestsFu ? |
| 09:26.42 | ckknight | thanks, renchap |
| 09:27.09 | [Ammo] | questfu's own detail frame is icky, it snaps to topright |
| 09:27.14 | sbu | ckknight: hmm - i guess distance display could be removed from instance-display |
| 09:27.34 | ckknight | instance notes? |
| 09:27.38 | sbu | errr maps |
| 09:27.41 | sbu | yep |
| 09:27.50 | sbu | its always some fixed "xx m" value |
| 09:27.59 | sbu | because we dont have positions there |
| 09:28.00 | renchap | quest details disappear |
| 09:28.35 | nee|work | Hm. I wish I could use bitmap fonts with WoW. Some small non-anti-aliased font would be good. |
| 09:28.38 | Elkano | CIA back at work? \o/ |
| 09:28.45 | ckknight | elkano: hey |
| 09:28.46 | [Ammo] | nee|work: the default font? |
| 09:28.53 | Elkano | hmm |
| 09:28.59 | nee|work | No, the default one isn't what I'm looking for |
| 09:29.02 | [Ammo] | ckknight: make sure RollCall works for friends as well |
| 09:29.07 | [Ammo] | (if there's any info to be gotten from them) |
| 09:29.12 | ckknight | elkano: you mind if I steal a bunch of code from GuildFu, license it as LGPL, and give you credit? |
| 09:29.23 | ckknight | [Ammo]: mmm... currently doing just Guild... |
| 09:29.25 | [Ammo] | so you can fix FriendsFu then in a similar way :) |
| 09:29.29 | ckknight | I'd think friends should be separate |
| 09:29.30 | [Ammo] | since they're bot almost the same |
| 09:29.30 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 09:29.43 | [Ammo] | similar in display and functionality |
| 09:30.24 | sbu | ah - you want to display public guild notes + friend notes there? |
| 09:31.33 | renchap | ckknight: do you use fubar_questsfu ? |
| 09:31.53 | ckknight | yes |
| 09:32.04 | renchap | can you look at the details frame ? |
| 09:32.11 | renchap | seems that you last change to tablet broke it |
| 09:32.38 | ckknight | did you update it to the most recent copy? |
| 09:32.44 | renchap | yes |
| 09:33.22 | [Ammo] | hmm from fuBar_questsfu: |
| 09:33.23 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.27 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.30 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:33.33 | [Ammo] | guess he hasn't bugged you yet :p |
| 09:33.48 | ckknight | guess not. |
| 09:38.14 | vith_ | the cartographer notes on the minimap are following me around too, and i haven't used any gathering profession in this zone ever |
| 09:38.18 | Elkano | ck, feel free to do so :) which part exactly? |
| 09:38.30 | ckknight | the stuff that gets data |
| 09:38.33 | ckknight | not the display |
| 09:38.35 | ckknight | basically |
| 09:38.42 | Elkano | ammo: what did you mean with 'fix' FriendsFu? |
| 09:38.48 | ckknight | genericize the data part |
| 09:39.58 | [Ammo] | ckk wants to make a guildinfo type li |
| 09:40.00 | [Ammo] | +b |
| 09:40.16 | [Ammo] | fix was not the right word |
| 09:40.17 | [Ammo] | change |
| 09:40.20 | [Ammo] | is a better word |
| 09:40.31 | Elkano | so OnUpdateData and maybe parts of OnTooltipUpdate (wrt AuldLangSyne, note that the CT_NOtes part may be not working... didn't test that one since I don't use it and I didn't get clear responss from CT users)? |
| 09:42.16 | Iceroth | vith_, i've had that with the latest version as well |
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| 09:42.31 | Iceroth | flight master location followed me around |
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| 09:47.14 | NightHawkTheSane | I've had weird things happen with Point-of-Interests, moving in opposite directions from me on the minimap |
| 09:47.44 | NightHawkTheSane | and going off the minimap and hovering outside it's borders |
| 09:50.33 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: working on it now |
| 09:51.49 | NightHawkTheSane | cool. |
| 09:57.25 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:58.56 | ilifin | Cartographer_Opening or Cartographer_Treasure? |
| 09:59.03 | ilifin | does those mods do the exact same thing? |
| 09:59.07 | ckknight | Treasure |
| 09:59.10 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25759 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - update the AceEvent_FullyInitialized code, apparently something between patches changed behavior. It now opens after channels join, as it should. |
| 09:59.45 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25760 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - remove debug code |
| 10:00.02 | ilifin | ckknight, isn't files.wowace.com being updated or am I missing out one something |
| 10:00.26 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25761 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - call configureYards after AceEvent_FullyInitialized |
| 10:00.35 | ckknight | ilifin: should be, every 20 minutes |
| 10:01.06 | ilifin | well mods that I've seen been updated in this channel is still on the same revisions on the site |
| 10:01.11 | ilifin | for 3-4 days now |
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| 10:04.34 | Mikma | ckknight: minimap fixed? |
| 10:04.46 | ckknight | should be. |
| 10:04.54 | Mikma | ok i'll test |
| 10:04.54 | ckknight | fixed for me |
| 10:05.10 | ilifin | trying out cartographer now |
| 10:05.28 | ilifin | ckknight, any mentions of interopterability with metamap? |
| 10:05.32 | ckknight | no |
| 10:05.34 | ckknight | down with Metamap |
| 10:05.39 | ckknight | there's no reason to interoperate |
| 10:05.48 | ilifin | I prefer metamap no matter situation >:( |
| 10:05.54 | ckknight | why? |
| 10:06.14 | ilifin | because it doesn't have the borders etc for the map window like the last cartographer version i tried |
| 10:06.23 | Mikma | ? |
| 10:06.28 | ilifin | and it is it's own separate map, not a complete modification of the map |
| 10:06.44 | Mikma | :D |
| 10:06.59 | Mikma | ckknight: you need a wig soon if you keep pulling your hair out like that |
| 10:07.14 | axxo | ilifin: so use metamap .. |
| 10:07.17 | ckknight | ilifin: first point is invalid. |
| 10:07.24 | ckknight | second point is downright stupid |
| 10:07.32 | ilifin | ckknight - I'm stupid then :/ |
| 10:07.36 | Mikma | axxo is right |
| 10:07.42 | ckknight | seeing as making a whole new map is horribly inefficient |
| 10:07.50 | Mikma | you should use whatever you want no matter what we say :D |
| 10:07.54 | Mikma | fuck the effeciency |
| 10:07.54 | ckknight | the first point is invalid since if you set transparency to 0, there is no border |
| 10:08.31 | Mikma | i am || this close on forcing Cartographer as default addon for our guild |
| 10:08.32 | ckknight | use what you want, that's fine by me, but I see absolutely no reason to interoperate. |
| 10:08.34 | ilifin | but then the map switcher buttons go away right? |
| 10:08.41 | ckknight | ilifin: no |
| 10:08.44 | ilifin | really |
| 10:08.47 | ckknight | test it out. |
| 10:09.01 | renchap | ckknight: what about the guildmap module for cartographer ? ^^ |
| 10:09.14 | Mikma | already in |
| 10:09.22 | renchap | realy ? |
| 10:09.41 | Mikma | yes |
| 10:09.47 | ckknight | yep. |
| 10:09.48 | renchap | mhh |
| 10:09.58 | renchap | so nobody in my guild use cartographer ^^ |
| 10:10.08 | ckknight | well, maybe not the newest version. |
| 10:11.11 | NightHawkTheSane | guildmap module... i assume puts your guild members on your map if they also have cartographer? |
| 10:11.20 | Mikma | yes |
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| 10:11.26 | NightHawkTheSane | now that's just sexy. |
| 10:11.47 | Health | That's too hot too handle. |
| 10:11.50 | Mikma | no, the NEW tooltip-combination is sexy |
| 10:11.52 | Health | to* |
| 10:12.01 | axxo | will paypal 1 euro for WhoNote Prat module ;p |
| 10:12.12 | ckknight | also, it's very efficient |
| 10:12.17 | ckknight | unlike other mods that do it |
| 10:12.37 | Health | so rather.. it's you who are too hot to handle ckknight? |
| 10:12.46 | ckknight | *sizzle* |
| 10:12.59 | Mikma | bring out the BBQ |
| 10:13.14 | ckknight | no need, just cook off the hotness of my abs. |
| 10:13.36 | odt | does cartographer_notes offer some /note x,y functionality to create a note via cli? |
| 10:13.49 | Elkano | ckknight, could it be that you somehow broke default map tooltips? RecipeRadar's tooltips have a transperant background :/ (don't know if that was caused by updating cartographer or RR) |
| 10:13.58 | ckknight | elkano: it's quite possible. |
| 10:14.03 | odt | nvm |
| 10:14.04 | tlund | ckknight: i would like an "easier" way to toggle different stuff on the map on/off (POI, mining, questgivers, etc) other than this HUGE dropdown where everything is not in any specific order... |
| 10:14.14 | ckknight | tlund: it's alphabetical. |
| 10:14.16 | ckknight | afaik |
| 10:14.19 | tlund | like some checkboxes or something |
| 10:14.26 | ckknight | yep |
| 10:14.28 | ckknight | sure is |
| 10:14.31 | tlund | yeah, but that makes it not logically grouped |
| 10:14.48 | Elkano | btw: is there a way to increase the range in which minimap icons are shown, having them 'wait' at the minimap border? |
| 10:14.49 | ckknight | if you don't want some modules, don't install em... |
| 10:14.55 | ckknight | elkano: not right now. |
| 10:15.02 | ckknight | I'll add a waypoint mechanism later |
| 10:15.19 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25762 10Prat/modules/ServerNames.lua: Prat: Fix locals token |
| 10:15.55 | tlund | ckknight: i want all the modules, im just looking for any easier way to switch stuff on/off, maby something like gatherer had for the main map |
| 10:16.33 | Mikma | tlund: and the way cartographer has them ain't easy enough? |
| 10:16.48 | sylvanaar | look at how prat does it |
| 10:16.52 | Mikma | it's like 3 clicks after opening the map |
| 10:17.12 | axxo | he's just saying with herb/mining/quests/trainer, you only see icons and notting else ;), and wants easy buttons to toggle showing on/off on the fly |
| 10:17.25 | tlund | exactly :) |
| 10:17.39 | Mikma | well, make a Bindings.xml then :) |
| 10:17.47 | tlund | the way it is now works fine if you only want to configure it once and maby change it now and then |
| 10:18.02 | tlund | but i want exactly that, some way to toggle stuff really fast :) |
| 10:18.09 | tlund | and not all of it, just some stuff |
| 10:18.17 | ckknight | well, buttons could be easily added to toggle modules on and off |
| 10:18.20 | ckknight | like how the lock button is. |
| 10:18.31 | axxo | o, that would be great |
| 10:18.32 | tlund | yeah |
| 10:18.34 | ckknight | granted, you can go bug the Herbalism author to do that. |
| 10:18.38 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 10:18.40 | ckknight | it's super-easy |
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| 10:18.54 | ckknight | just copy the lock button from LookNFeel |
| 10:19.04 | ckknight | in fact, you could do it pretty easily if you wanted. |
| 10:19.25 | renchap | Kemayo: ping |
| 10:19.26 | tlund | ckknight: who should i bug to get more flight-patch functonality? for example showing lines for all possible destnations when I mouse-over a flightpath and such? |
| 10:19.37 | ckknight | tlund: probably not. |
| 10:20.01 | tlund | i had that in some flightpath-mod earlier, and i kinda miss it now |
| 10:20.01 | ckknight | not anytime soon, at least... |
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| 10:24.46 | axxo | inflight is all you need |
| 10:25.58 | Elkano | ck, FlightMaps tooltips are also broken so it really seems to be cartographer |
| 10:26.13 | ckknight | hrm |
| 10:26.22 | ckknight | I tool out the WorldMapTooltip stuff |
| 10:26.26 | ckknight | guess it needs to go back... |
| 10:27.07 | Elkano | well, the tooltips show but the backdrop is transparent though the borders show |
| 10:28.01 | paranoidi | hmm.. I'm propably going to do one or two cartographer extensions :) |
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| 10:28.10 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25763 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer-LookNFeel - force WorldMapTooltip to be on the TOOLTIP strata |
| 10:28.12 | ckknight | paranoidi: :-) |
| 10:28.14 | ckknight | paranoidi: what of? |
| 10:28.46 | paranoidi | ckknight: well, other being "better way points" implementation if nobody else is doing and the other being still secret ;) |
| 10:29.35 | ckknight | alright |
| 10:29.41 | ckknight | I was gonna do the waypoint deal eventually |
| 10:29.55 | ckknight | but if you start it I may be able to touch it up later or something |
| 10:31.00 | ilifin | hm this version of cartographer I got has placed a pink circle that's following me around after I mined, is that something I can fix by updating through svn? |
| 10:31.41 | paranoidi | mm, yout pet perhaps? |
| 10:32.09 | ilifin | nah, even on the worldmap there's a block of adamantite ontop of my character's arrow that sticks onto my character wherever I move |
| 10:32.37 | Elkano | ckknight, tooltips are fine again, thx :) |
| 10:32.53 | ckknight | ilifin: I fixed that. |
| 10:32.58 | ckknight | ilifin: update Ace2 and Cartographer |
| 10:33.02 | tlund | ckknight: im going out for lunch, but before i forget... im having some weird problem with the minimap-icon not being removed when i turn it off, and it covers my tracking-icons (minging) |
| 10:33.04 | Mikma | so, who can convert .blp into .tga? |
| 10:33.05 | paranoidi | ckknight: do I need to go trough official SVN access request route or is requesting it here just as good? :D |
| 10:33.15 | ilifin | ckknight - is it on files.* or shall I svn it? |
| 10:33.22 | [Ammo] | you have to go through official one |
| 10:33.25 | ckknight | may not be on files yet |
| 10:33.39 | ckknight | paranoidi: official |
| 10:33.50 | Mikma | ~framexml |
| 10:33.58 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 10:34.26 | Mikma | purl: no, framexml is <reply> get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 10:34.28 | purl | okay, Mikma |
| 10:39.53 | Silviu- | ckknight i think with the latest Aceevent changes my questfu won`t open the tracker anymore cause i just checked and it was updated 2 days ago and yesterday night it did work ^^ |
| 10:40.19 | renchap | thats tablet |
| 10:40.24 | renchap | not aceevent |
| 10:40.27 | Silviu- | Tablet ? |
| 10:40.28 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 10:40.33 | ckknight | it works for me |
| 10:40.40 | ckknight | just update Tablet |
| 10:40.55 | Silviu- | I did |
| 10:40.57 | Silviu- | Hmmm |
| 10:41.06 | ckknight | get any errors? |
| 10:41.10 | Silviu- | No |
| 10:41.18 | renchap | which locale ? |
| 10:41.21 | Silviu- | That is the strange part :) |
| 10:41.23 | Silviu- | enGB |
| 10:41.55 | paranoidi | ckknight: allright, request sent :) |
| 10:42.14 | ckknight | Kaelten actually handles that |
| 10:44.04 | Mikma | so, who can convert .blp into .tga? |
| 10:44.30 | renchap | ckknight: tablet updated, same bug |
| 10:44.41 | Silviu- | Yay, i am not alone |
| 10:44.41 | Silviu- | :D |
| 10:44.51 | ckknight | renchap: all of your tablets are updated? |
| 10:44.58 | ckknight | such as the one in FuBar and such? |
| 10:45.11 | renchap | i dont use externals |
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| 10:45.15 | Silviu- | ckknight me neighter |
| 10:45.42 | Silviu- | Only 1 copy |
| 10:45.43 | ckknight | um |
| 10:45.54 | ckknight | then I don't know, you don't give me an error |
| 10:46.00 | ckknight | or really any symptoms... |
| 10:46.05 | Silviu- | It don`t have any error |
| 10:46.18 | Silviu- | Just that quest_fu won`t show the questlog ^^ |
| 10:46.23 | renchap | when i use simpleminimap, the blizzard frame is here |
| 10:46.24 | Silviu- | Notlog, tracker |
| 10:46.30 | ckknight | oh |
| 10:46.31 | ckknight | hrm |
| 10:46.40 | Silviu- | I try manually nothing |
| 10:46.43 | Silviu- | But no errors :P |
| 10:46.46 | renchap | when i disable the enhanced one, the blizzard one dont shows |
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| 10:46.54 | Elkano | ck, it seems like your changes to tablet broke some parts of questfu |
| 10:46.56 | renchap | but when i disable questsfu, it works |
| 10:47.03 | ckknight | odd |
| 10:47.05 | ckknight | I don't know |
| 10:47.34 | ckknight | the tracker doesn't show for me either |
| 10:48.07 | Silviu- | :P |
| 10:48.26 | waffle | has anyone else been getting WoW client crashes with error #131, corrupt file? |
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| 10:50.34 | Elkano | who maintains ClossetGnome? |
| 10:51.19 | [Ammo] | Rabbit |
| 10:51.23 | [Ammo] | aka Vhaarr |
| 10:52.40 | groll | ckknight are there at the moment any notes on outland bosses and what they drop in cartographer? cause i dont see any :( |
| 10:52.50 | ckknight | I wouldn't know |
| 10:53.10 | groll | hmm oke aint u the author? hmm :P |
| 10:53.31 | ckknight | not of the instance note stuff |
| 10:53.46 | groll | ah okies oh well i'll look into it a bit more then :P |
| 10:55.31 | Aenslaed | is there a 5man equivallent mod of bigwigs? |
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| 10:59.07 | Dekuna | ckk: questsfu has more problems than just the tracker :( |
| 10:59.15 | ckknight | oh? |
| 10:59.34 | Dekuna | yeah, it broke the quest detail pane as well |
| 10:59.46 | Mikma | Mikma 2 - Lil'Timmy 0 |
| 10:59.55 | ckknight | quest detail pane? |
| 11:00.13 | Dekuna | the quest text you gen when clicking on a quest in the QuestFu tooltip |
| 11:00.17 | Dekuna | *get |
| 11:00.34 | Dekuna | that window that normally showed up now doesn't |
| 11:00.46 | ckknight | shift-click or something? |
| 11:00.56 | ckknight | or just normal click? |
| 11:01.02 | Dekuna | normal click |
| 11:01.06 | ckknight | cause normal click works fine for me |
| 11:01.13 | Dekuna | hmm |
| 11:01.27 | Dekuna | no idea then, but it all seemed to break at once |
| 11:01.28 | renchap | Dekuna: same here |
| 11:01.46 | renchap | the enhanced one bugs |
| 11:02.20 | Dekuna | ckk: are you using QuestFu's enhanced questlog, or the bliz default? |
| 11:02.27 | ckknight | default |
| 11:02.31 | Dekuna | yeah |
| 11:02.36 | Dekuna | default works fine |
| 11:02.45 | Dekuna | the QuestFu one is totally borked |
| 11:02.54 | Dekuna | since this morning |
| 11:04.04 | ckknight | morning means nothing. |
| 11:04.10 | Industrial | ~ugt |
| 11:04.13 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 11:04.21 | renchap | since your tablet update ? ;) |
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| 11:04.44 | Industrial | ckknight: could you make the quest info close on escape? |
| 11:04.59 | ckknight | Industrial: quest info? |
| 11:05.15 | Industrial | when you click on a ques in the FuBar_Quests tooltip |
| 11:05.21 | Adirelle|work | is someone working on carto quest/vendor/trainer module ? or have news how someone who does ? |
| 11:05.35 | Industrial | its big and when something happens (eg you spot dirty alliance) you need it to close FAST or else theres a big fucken thing in your face and you die :P |
| 11:05.39 | ckknight | Industrial: I'm not hacking QuestFu |
| 11:05.42 | Industrial | happened to me yesterday :( |
| 11:05.45 | Industrial | oh. |
| 11:05.46 | Mikma | Nargiddley: yo, Frodo |
| 11:06.01 | Nargiddley | Mikma, whats up ? |
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| 11:06.14 | Mikma | Nargiddley: fixing up Baggins icon :) |
| 11:06.25 | Nargiddley | fixing? |
| 11:06.29 | Adirelle|work | Mikma: blizzard-like icons ? |
| 11:06.31 | Industrial | Mikma: went back to my hunter and leveled L30-33 ^^ almost 34 now and done with desolace |
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| 11:07.00 | Mikma | Nargiddley and Adirelle|work: making it to have transparent background (black removed) |
| 11:07.11 | Industrial | it? |
| 11:07.12 | ckknight | found the issue, btw |
| 11:07.22 | Mikma | Industrial: gz, i'm lvl26 |
| 11:07.30 | Industrial | :) |
| 11:08.04 | Adirelle|work | Mikma: whichi icon ? the ring ? |
| 11:08.08 | Industrial | <the best guild ever>, hehe |
| 11:08.21 | Mikma | Adirelle|work: the ring yes. also planning on finding some kinky bag for it :) |
| 11:08.29 | Adirelle|work | Mikma: and what the point of making it transparent ???* |
| 11:08.36 | Mikma | Adirelle|work: it's pretty? |
| 11:08.57 | Nargiddley | Adirelle, looks better in fubar without the black box |
| 11:08.58 | Adirelle|work | Mikma: that's a good reason, but where is it unpretty now ? |
| 11:09.03 | Silviu- | ckknight what issue, tablet`s ? |
| 11:09.07 | Adirelle|work | Nargiddley: oh... |
| 11:09.12 | ckknight | and thusly QuestFu's |
| 11:09.24 | Adirelle|work | Nargiddley: I have fubar almost black and opaque, so I didn't noticed... |
| 11:11.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Quick check - can people reach the wowwiki? |
| 11:11.41 | Industrial | ckknight: \o/ |
| 11:11.46 | Mikma | Kirkburn|afk: "WoWWiki has a problem |
| 11:11.56 | Dekuna | \m/ |
| 11:12.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Continuous, Mikma? |
| 11:12.07 | Kirkburn|afk | I can't reach it at all here |
| 11:14.06 | Mikma | Kirkburn|afk: 1 time only |
| 11:14.10 | paranoidi | ckknight: oh btw, the metres concept in cartographer is a bit weird. I'm all in for moving into metric system (being european) everywhere, but I think yards would be more suitable unit in this case. Or is there some reason for using metres? :) |
| 11:14.34 | ckknight | paranoidi: meters for non-English |
| 11:14.37 | ckknight | it's how Blizz does it. |
| 11:14.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikma, weird. Guess it must be me again. The wiki was down earlier when the log files reached 28GB \O/ |
| 11:15.00 | ckknight | turns out for Britons, they use yards, though, which is weird |
| 11:15.20 | Mikma | Kirkburn|afk: well seems to work fine now |
| 11:15.22 | paranoidi | ckknight: uh, and all spells etc are given in yards ... |
| 11:15.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Not in real life ckknight |
| 11:15.39 | Kirkburn|afk | No-one my age describes anything in yards |
| 11:15.43 | ckknight | paranoidi: wait, for foreigners, too? |
| 11:15.55 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: I don't care what you really do, I care what Blizz does. |
| 11:16.02 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: weird, in french client, everything is in meters |
| 11:16.03 | Kirkburn|afk | (I wish they'd change the road system over here to metric) |
| 11:16.13 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: yes, that's why it's meters for French. |
| 11:16.14 | paranoidi | ckknight: atleast the english client in EU uses yards everywhere :) |
| 11:16.19 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: btw, it's just a "string", as the values ain't |
| 11:16.27 | Kirkburn|afk | ckknight, okay, I was responding to " for Britons, they use yards", which ain't true for me ;) |
| 11:16.38 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: for enGB |
| 11:16.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Thought so :P |
| 11:16.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Still annoys me |
| 11:16.54 | renchap | frFR uses meters |
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| 11:17.17 | Kirkburn|afk | I guess we use yards in enGB cause it's essentially the enUS client |
| 11:17.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 11:18.05 | renchap | but 1 yard = 1 meter ^^ |
| 11:18.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Ever so slightly less, but pretty much :) |
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| 11:20.11 | Mikma | hmm |
| 11:20.14 | Mikma | well, i failed |
| 11:20.39 | Mikma | can't see the image and i can't figure out why |
| 11:21.08 | Mikma | oh right :D lol was one \ missing from path |
| 11:23.23 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25764 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - properly handle migrating .runChildren |
| 11:23.27 | ckknight | fixed |
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| 11:26.36 | Mikma | Nargiddley: yohoo? |
| 11:26.47 | Nargiddley | Mikma? |
| 11:27.10 | Mikma | Nargiddley: wouldn't you like to have a bag-icon in fubar instead? |
| 11:27.24 | Nargiddley | Mikma, not really |
| 11:28.04 | Mikma | ok, i myself don't actually see the connection between a ring, and an inventorymod ;) eventho the name is what it is |
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| 11:30.35 | Nargiddley | well its just a fun icon to go with the name :D |
| 11:30.44 | Silviu- | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.45 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 11:30.51 | ckknight | yep. |
| 11:31.12 | Mikma | Nargiddley: well, name it Precious :D then the ring fits perfectly since all items in inventory are Precious' ;) |
| 11:32.12 | Nargiddley | bit late to change the name now, dont want to confuse everyone |
| 11:32.22 | Nargiddley | and I lke baggins |
| 11:32.23 | Nargiddley | :D |
| 11:32.24 | Mikma | that's the best about everything |
| 11:32.49 | Nargiddley | could always just add taglines |
| 11:32.58 | Nargiddley | Baggins: Keep your precious's in order |
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| 11:33.40 | Mikma | haha |
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| 11:36.36 | nee|work | hm |
| 11:37.02 | nee|work | Baggins: Manage your Precious |
| 11:37.32 | Industrial | dont use that as toc description |
| 11:37.44 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:37.59 | nee|work | People wouldn't know what it does I suppose |
| 11:38.08 | Nargiddley | toc description stays informative, this is just for fun |
| 11:38.23 | nee|work | Fun is good |
| 11:39.08 | Mikma | Nargiddley: i found a perfect picture for the icon http://tinyurl.com/2ev8xp |
| 11:39.49 | Nargiddley | Mikma, i prefer the ring. scales well |
| 11:40.08 | Mikma | http://www.secret-lair.net/lordoftherings/bilbo_files/bilbobag.jpg :D |
| 11:40.50 | Mikma | ah haha http://www.cs.stevens.edu/~dlong/theonering/index.html that's just sad |
| 11:41.55 | nee|work | Well you're the one laughing at it :) |
| 11:42.41 | Mikma | i am? |
| 11:43.34 | nee|work | 'ah haha' :) |
| 11:44.01 | nee|work | Anyway, does anyone here have FreeRefills working for them? |
| 11:44.06 | Mikma | it's a "non-emotional laugh" by Steve Carell |
| 11:44.15 | Mikma | have you seen him doing it? it's kidna cool |
| 11:44.17 | nee|work | still, it's a laugh |
| 11:44.20 | nee|work | *kinda |
| 11:44.35 | Mikma | i must find it for you then |
| 11:44.40 | nee|work | :) |
| 11:44.50 | Mikma | i trust youtube in this case |
| 11:46.01 | Mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=wKh2KKn01c0 |
| 11:47.45 | nee|work | quite the odd laugh, but it's a laugh nonetheless. Perhaps people who had a too rigorous facelift laugh like that. |
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| 11:52.48 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 11:53.12 | nee|work | Hi there |
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| 12:07.17 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r25765 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Fixed ignoring (hopefully) and normalised the commands for deleting |
| 12:07.57 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.32 | Wobin | and damn you Blizzard |
| 12:08.41 | Wobin | since the expansion, my graphics card has gone screwy =( |
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| 12:08.50 | Wobin | I lose buildings |
| 12:08.54 | Chrome | hey ho everyone |
| 12:09.01 | Wobin | and go to a crawl =( |
| 12:10.28 | nee|work | Wobin: Do you see through the landscape? |
| 12:10.28 | nee|work | And in instances, do you see everything but the instance? |
| 12:10.29 | Chrome | just wantet to check in if there are any news about kci 2? |
| 12:10.29 | Wobin | Pretty much =\ |
| 12:10.29 | Wobin | I haven't actually tried an instance yet |
| 12:10.30 | nee|work | Do you see a purple-ish field outside? |
| 12:10.34 | Wobin | Well, I see the landscape |
| 12:10.37 | nee|work | ah |
| 12:10.39 | Wobin | Just not buildings |
| 12:10.48 | Wobin | Bookcases, etc everything else |
| 12:10.50 | nee|work | Well, try decreasing your terrain distance to half |
| 12:10.53 | nee|work | just as a test |
| 12:10.57 | Wobin | hm I'll give that a go |
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| 12:12.08 | Wobin | Terrain distance is the only thing I have high =P |
| 12:12.11 | nee|work | Or you can try setting UI Acceleration to 2, I used that too |
| 12:12.16 | Wobin | my poor laptop has issues |
| 12:12.28 | nee|work | :| |
| 12:12.33 | Wobin | hm, I need to check how that works |
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| 12:13.09 | Wobin | we need a purl link to the patch changelogs |
| 12:14.11 | nee|work | Set UIFaster "2" |
| 12:14.21 | nee|work | in WTF/Config.WTF |
| 12:17.25 | Adirelle|work | is there any sharing, player-rating, ace'd addon ? |
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| 12:20.01 | nee|work | hm |
| 12:20.07 | nee|work | sharing, as in sharing the friends' list? |
| 12:20.14 | nee|work | amongst your own characters or amongst others too? |
| 12:20.25 | nee|work | As for adding notes, you can use AuldLangSyne for that |
| 12:21.11 | Dhraga | The SET UIFaster feature, I pressume that it's value is 3 as default, anyone know ? |
| 12:21.20 | Wobin | There's PlayerRating, but that's buggy atm |
| 12:21.34 | Wobin | Set UIFaster "x" |
| 12:21.35 | Wobin | Where x equals: |
| 12:21.35 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.35 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.35 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.35 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.46 | Wobin | although why they allowed '1' I don't know =P |
| 12:22.10 | nee|work | Perhaps they did not want to alter the function as the game uses it or they use it |
| 12:22.43 | nee|work | If you want one synced friends-list across your same-realm characters, get: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5568/friendsshare-resurrection/ |
| 12:22.55 | Dhraga | I tried to add the line into my config.wtf as value 3... but I pressume that 3 is the default value because when I logged back on and looked in the config.wtf the UIFaster line was gone |
| 12:23.06 | ckknight | anyone want to help me test RollCall-1.0/Cartographer-GuildPositions? |
| 12:23.14 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r25766 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: fixed a tablet reference |
| 12:23.54 | Dhraga | But I noticed another line I had in my config.wtf .... wich actually fixes a gfx lag I was having |
| 12:24.06 | nee|work | Which one? |
| 12:24.07 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: sharing between players |
| 12:24.25 | nee|work | Adirelle|work: Players, as in different accounts? Or characters |
| 12:24.43 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: like different accounts, for exemple, guildmates |
| 12:24.55 | nee|work | Ah oki, not a clue about that I fear. |
| 12:24.56 | Dhraga | I had for some time in TBC had a bit of choppy movement in the gfx, like when walking forward... It floats for 2 sec then a 0.25 sec jerk, then float for 2 sec again and so on... |
| 12:25.06 | nee|work | Dhraga: Which line |
| 12:25.08 | Dhraga | I noticed the line SET gxFixLag "0" |
| 12:25.27 | Dhraga | I put it to 1, and my lag went away completely.... but so did the line also |
| 12:26.01 | Dhraga | Anyone else have the SET gxFixLag "0" in your config.wtf ? |
| 12:26.02 | Adirelle|work | nee|work: saw one of this kind long ago. you can "karma" characters (friends and foes) and information is shared with your guildmte |
| 12:26.13 | nee|work | Hm |
| 12:26.36 | Silviu- | SET gxFixLag "0" |
| 12:26.40 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 12:26.51 | Dhraga | and what I mean with that the SET gxFixLag "0" line went away, is that after putting it to 1, saving and starting the game the line was gone. |
| 12:27.04 | Silviu- | Lol :) |
| 12:27.09 | Dhraga | And so was ALL my gfx lag, it felt as a new pc |
| 12:27.18 | Adirelle|work | it can either be used to note "PU" players (good ones and others) and to setup a KOS list |
| 12:27.36 | nee|work | Dhraga: Sounds too much like magic the way you describe it ;) |
| 12:27.44 | Adirelle|work | nee|work, yeah :) |
| 12:27.51 | Dhraga | Only telling you the way I did it. |
| 12:27.55 | nee|work | oki ;) |
| 12:29.28 | Dhraga | It went away along with the Set UIFaster "3" line (I suppose that Set UIFaster "3" is default and the line arnt needed, and the same for the SET gxFixLag "1") |
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| 12:29.28 | nee|work | I'll try it when I get home. |
| 12:29.28 | Dhraga | I was pretty baffled myself to not see the lines again, and no I wasn't online when I edited the config.wtf |
| 12:29.31 | nee|work | No lag here, but we'll see |
| 12:30.16 | Dhraga | I only noticed the choppy gfx when I came to TBC, the old zones actually worked better for me before this change |
| 12:30.22 | nee|work | I wonder if it's the settings for mouse-smoothing |
| 12:31.04 | Dhraga | It could not be, I had the gfx choppy even when standing still channeling a spell |
| 12:31.23 | Dhraga | small jerkyness on the cb and the visuals |
| 12:31.49 | nee|work | Still, if it's mouse smoothing, it might just increase the polling rate or such, even when not moving |
| 12:32.04 | nee|work | I'm trying to find out what the setting does now |
| 12:32.24 | Dhraga | Okies Nee, I havent a clue why or how, but I'm real happy with my gfx performance now :D |
| 12:32.42 | nee|work | :) |
| 12:33.13 | Silviu- | Dhraga at me disapeared also |
| 12:33.14 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 12:33.42 | Dhraga | I had been trying to disable parts of my UI to sort the lag out but never found any addon that had that performance impact. |
| 12:33.50 | Dhraga | Silviu, nice |
| 12:34.08 | nee|work | Some other people reported that gxFixLag helps them too, but they are not sure what it is either |
| 12:34.47 | Dhraga | I looked in my wifes config.wtf and she did NOT have the SET gxFixLag "0" line at all.... nor did she have any gfx lag either though :P |
| 12:36.30 | nee|work | ;) |
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| 12:36.51 | Dhraga | Silviu, could you look in your video setting and check the status of your move settings, is the smooth mouse enabled or disabled now ? |
| 12:37.18 | Silviu- | enabled |
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| 12:37.23 | Silviu- | Was disabled before |
| 12:37.41 | Dhraga | Try disabling it and exit the game and see if SET gxFixLag "0" is back |
| 12:37.48 | Silviu- | :/ |
| 12:37.53 | Dhraga | that way we know what it is |
| 12:37.57 | Dhraga | :P |
| 12:38.06 | nee|work | :) |
| 12:38.12 | Silviu- | Is back |
| 12:38.13 | Silviu- | :) |
| 12:38.35 | nee|work | then it's that ;) |
| 12:38.40 | Dhraga | Ah nice.... so just by enabling the smooth mouse you can on some systems increase the performance |
| 12:38.49 | Dhraga | Thanks Silviu |
| 12:38.53 | nee|work | When I disable mouse smoothing though, the cursor moves jaggedly |
| 12:39.36 | Dhraga | Nee, I had that same jaggedly movement on ex. fires in RAmparts |
| 12:39.48 | Silviu- | If i enable that option i loose 6 7 fps |
| 12:40.00 | Dhraga | So my whole gfx was jaggedly |
| 12:40.17 | Silviu- | Yes 7 |
| 12:40.25 | Silviu- | From 22 to 15 in same place no move |
| 12:40.54 | Dhraga | Silviu, ok but how does it feel, can you feel any difference when walking around with it enabled or disabled |
| 12:41.15 | vhaarr | Kemayo: ping |
| 12:41.42 | Silviu- | Same |
| 12:41.43 | Silviu- | :) |
| 12:41.52 | Dhraga | okies =) |
| 12:42.36 | Dhraga | I pressume that it could depend on your gfx brand or something /shrug |
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| 12:43.24 | nee|work | Dhraga: : |
| 12:43.28 | nee|work | Dhraga: :| even |
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| 12:56.01 | ckknight | anyone on US that's up? |
| 12:56.01 | sbu | hmm |
| 12:56.11 | sbu | when are caverns of time quests available? :o |
| 12:56.14 | sbu | (level) |
| 12:56.23 | sbu | oh - us servers down? |
| 12:57.13 | ckknight | no, I want to test something |
| 12:57.19 | ckknight | Guild Positions module |
| 12:57.36 | ckknight | I made a shitload of changes, but all drycoded |
| 12:57.53 | sbu | already on svn? |
| 12:58.07 | sbu | and what stuff needs testing? |
| 12:58.38 | ckknight | new stuff, I changed the internals. |
| 12:58.54 | ckknight | I just need a warm body to test with |
| 12:58.56 | nee|work | sbu: 70 |
| 12:58.58 | nee|work | bbl |
| 12:59.18 | ckknight | you don't need the new code, as it's the same, it's all client-side fixes |
| 12:59.53 | sbu | well, just EU servers here :/ |
| 13:00.05 | sbu | guess i cant help much from here :p |
| 13:00.17 | Dhraga | I pressume that most of you have seen this but if you havent, here are the raid attunement chart for tbc http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7526/diagramzm4.jpg |
| 13:00.46 | _neuron_ | lol |
| 13:01.12 | sbu | meh, just ordered E6600 CPU :/ |
| 13:01.27 | sbu | *selfstab* |
| 13:01.29 | _neuron_ | hehe |
| 13:02.51 | fuddite | Does anyone else have a problem with Prat/chat where channels all appear white? |
| 13:03.40 | fuddite | (Revision 25735) |
| 13:07.24 | [Ammo] | I hate customers that don't honor agreements |
| 13:07.54 | Dhraga | Ammo thats about 50-60% of them then ;) |
| 13:07.57 | [Ammo] | well |
| 13:08.00 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 13:08.09 | [Ammo] | most of the time it's no problem |
| 13:08.12 | [Ammo] | but this one is just a dick |
| 13:08.19 | Dhraga | What happend ? |
| 13:08.29 | [Ammo] | 3rd time he 'forgot' the appointment |
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| 13:08.45 | [Ammo] | for a finalizing meeting of a product |
| 13:08.50 | Dhraga | I hope you bill him regardless of he beeing there or not |
| 13:08.51 | [Ammo] | so we can bill the fucker |
| 13:08.55 | Dhraga | Ah |
| 13:09.30 | [Ammo] | ohwell time for some more drycoding |
| 13:09.38 | Dhraga | heh |
| 13:11.00 | [Ammo] | satisfy some whingers that want group notification in oRA2 |
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| 13:12.56 | Dhraga | Ammo, is it possible to put a pet as mt or pt nowdays ? (havent tried for a long time now) |
| 13:14.46 | [Ammo] | no you can't |
| 13:14.50 | Dhraga | ok |
| 13:14.58 | [Ammo] | you can try |
| 13:15.07 | [Ammo] | if blizzard's nameList for the secureraidheader support its |
| 13:15.15 | [Ammo] | then oRA2 supports it |
| 13:15.20 | Dhraga | ah nice |
| 13:16.08 | kenlyric | just make sure that pet is actually supposed to be the tank *grumble* |
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| 13:20.26 | boone | hmm, anyone know if it's possible to put keybindings on shift somehow? |
| 13:24.29 | Industrial | press shift and then the key |
| 13:24.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:24.38 | kenlyric | is closetgnome smart enough to throw on my riding gear when I mount up? |
| 13:24.44 | boone | i mean just shift |
| 13:24.55 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r25767 10oRA2/Optional/Group.lua: oRA2: Drycoded optional group change notification module. not in .tocs yet |
| 13:24.56 | kenlyric | boone: I don't think so, |
| 13:24.58 | Industrial | dont think so |
| 13:25.16 | [Ammo] | <3 rosterlib :) |
| 13:25.24 | boone | blech, oh well, thanks |
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| 13:25.47 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: you need ClosetGnome_Mount for that |
| 13:25.48 | ag` | babble-zone seems to be missing translations, gives errors for cartographer |
| 13:25.56 | [Ammo] | ag`: it was updated recently |
| 13:26.19 | kenlyric | is it smart enough to look for Spirit Tap? |
| 13:26.19 | ag` | I checked out right this second [Ammo] |
| 13:26.43 | DarkImakuni | I need a good name for a minimap button creation library I'm working on... at the moment it's called MiniButt |
| 13:27.01 | kenlyric | mmmmmButtons |
| 13:27.10 | kenlyric | like mmmmmVashnik |
| 13:28.15 | [Ammo] | ag`: weird |
| 13:28.21 | [Ammo] | well add them :) |
| 13:28.36 | ag` | ah it's because of the Svn mirror being behind I guess |
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| 13:29.55 | [Ammo] | ag`: probably |
| 13:30.09 | [Ammo] | ag`: I have this weird problem that I sometimes can't target partymembers |
| 13:30.20 | [Ammo] | I can use other bindings on them |
| 13:30.22 | [Ammo] | but not leftclickt o target |
| 13:30.29 | [Ammo] | in ag_uf |
| 13:30.37 | [Ammo] | some say it was solved in most recent |
| 13:30.37 | robotusch | have the same issue sometimes :/ |
| 13:30.42 | [Ammo] | but it didn't work yesterday |
| 13:30.52 | ag` | it probably something with the secure attributes |
| 13:30.53 | [Ammo] | it occurs when partymembers are added to the group that are not in range when added |
| 13:31.12 | [Ammo] | for instance I was in Zangermarsh and added someone to the group that was in Hellfire |
| 13:31.14 | ag` | I don't see how range would have anything to do with it |
| 13:31.15 | [Ammo] | couldn't targe tthem |
| 13:31.24 | [Ammo] | but I can target people when I add them standing right next to me |
| 13:31.32 | [Ammo] | might be something else |
| 13:31.47 | [Ammo] | oh and can always target the top partymember |
| 13:31.51 | ag` | all you need to be able to click something is secure attributes set |
| 13:32.02 | [Ammo] | but can't target the others |
| 13:32.20 | [Ammo] | well it started 5 days ago |
| 13:32.24 | [Ammo] | so something changed |
| 13:32.48 | robotusch | havde had it every now & then, but since I stopped playing a healer it became a nonissue really |
| 13:32.53 | ag` | I haven't changed anything these last five days |
| 13:32.58 | Wobin | oh man |
| 13:33.01 | Wobin | there goes my ui =P |
| 13:33.18 | robotusch | btw ag`, are you still doing 2man LAN? :D |
| 13:33.27 | ag` | yeah |
| 13:33.38 | _neuron_ | hm, there's something funky in cartographer minimap coords now, my quest circles are moving as I move around |
| 13:33.47 | [Ammo] | neuron: update all your addons |
| 13:33.51 | [Ammo] | it was fixed hour or so |
| 13:33.54 | _neuron_ | oh great |
| 13:34.02 | _neuron_ | I sync'ed about.. an hour or two ago :P |
| 13:34.37 | DarkImakuni | Ammo: does it happen with different themes? I have Compact as my theme and it doesn't happen to me... |
| 13:34.51 | [Ammo] | I only use ABF default theme |
| 13:34.58 | [Ammo] | with portraits and castbar enabled |
| 13:35.16 | [Ammo] | might be the changes that were made to only execute secure stuff out of combat |
| 13:35.42 | ag` | ckk only did that with setpoint and stuff |
| 13:35.43 | _neuron_ | hm, /me just did an update [Ammo], nothing new (I'm syncing to wowace.com/files though, not the svn) |
| 13:35.51 | renchap | ag`: i have some blocked actions from aguf since 5 days |
| 13:35.53 | ag` | pretty sure he didn't change how attributes are set, I think |
| 13:35.55 | robotusch | hmm nice, just got a major snowstorm outside :< |
| 13:36.35 | Industrial | snow! |
| 13:36.36 | Industrial | <3 |
| 13:36.53 | DarkImakuni | gief snow |
| 13:36.55 | kenlyric | we had snow. |
| 13:36.58 | Industrial | well not here, in austria in 3 weeks =) |
| 13:37.07 | Industrial | snowboarding <3 |
| 13:37.46 | robotusch | going to france in 2 weeks to ski :> |
| 13:37.55 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 13:38.25 | kenlyric | do mods still have the ability to change your gear based on non-user initiated events, like going into Spirit Tap? |
| 13:38.26 | Industrial | where? Les Deux Alpes? Les trois vallees? |
| 13:38.39 | robotusch | Espace Killy / Val d'Isere |
| 13:38.46 | Industrial | k |
| 13:38.49 | kenlyric | meh, I guess I can not be lazy and hit a button. |
| 13:42.04 | Nickenyfiken | ClosetGnome change geard when you get sprit tap i belive |
| 13:42.20 | Wobin | does that still work? |
| 13:42.33 | Wobin | I thought it gave you regen based on the equp you had on at the start |
| 13:42.42 | Wobin | In that they fixed the issue |
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| 13:48.39 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25768 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer: InstanceMaps: added possible Mana-Tombs map, will confirm later |
| 13:49.58 | Funkeh` | bbl |
| 13:52.16 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r25769 10Talismonger-2.0/ (. Talismonger-2.0.lua): Talismonger-2.0: Added babble-fish, ore and herbs to externals and wil swap to use those for a lot of the translations and get this module in uses sooner |
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| 13:56.26 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r25770 10MiniButtLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:56.26 | CIA-17 | .MiniButt-1.0: |
| 13:56.26 | CIA-17 | - Initial commit |
| 13:56.26 | CIA-17 | - Minimap button creation library, based on MyMinimapButton by Gello |
| 13:57.35 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r25771 10oRA2/Optional/PlayerTarget.lua: oRA2: The Goggles: 'they do nothing' |
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| 13:59.44 | [Ammo] | drycoding ftw :) |
| 14:00.54 | zirah | DarkImakuni: Does it support Fubar, too? |
| 14:01.36 | DarkImakuni | zirah: no |
| 14:01.53 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r25772 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: |
| 14:01.53 | CIA-17 | FuBar_RestFu: |
| 14:01.53 | CIA-17 | - Found another for loop with a missing pairs(). |
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| 14:03.15 | kenlyric | wow... <3 baggins all-in-one sorted. |
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| 14:03.29 | kagaro | ck: ping |
| 14:03.50 | Adirelle|work | ~drycode |
| 14:04.14 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: what does mean "drycoding" ? |
| 14:04.57 | kagaro | coding without access to the game, i.e. just luac |
| 14:04.59 | ag` | untested |
| 14:05.05 | Adirelle|work | oki |
| 14:05.13 | Adirelle|work | something I should try :) |
| 14:05.45 | kagaro | hmm wonder how hard it would be to make aceLocale "inherit" other translations ala a proxy to secondary translations |
| 14:06.04 | Adirelle|work | is there a 2.0.5 wow bench ? or is just luac sufficent ? |
| 14:10.00 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r25773 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: more drycoding, this time backwards showing of Maintanks |
| 14:10.01 | beerke | babble-zone is missing zome zones |
| 14:10.08 | [Ammo] | beerke: no its not |
| 14:10.13 | [Ammo] | beerke: update it |
| 14:10.21 | beerke | i just did ! |
| 14:10.28 | beerke | unless zip is not uptodate |
| 14:10.37 | [Ammo] | guess that's the truth |
| 14:10.56 | beerke | missed azeroth and eastern kingdom |
| 14:11.01 | [Ammo] | that was fixed this morning |
| 14:11.05 | [Ammo] | afaik |
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| 14:11.32 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.35 | [Ammo] | in my babble-zone |
| 14:11.38 | beerke | hmm got tourist 25753 |
| 14:12.09 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25774 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 14:12.09 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:12.09 | CIA-17 | - Babble-Zone-2.2: updated esES |
| 14:12.19 | beerke | actually |
| 14:12.30 | beerke | i'll check this out |
| 14:12.34 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25775 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: updated esES |
| 14:12.58 | nevcairiel | Kaelten-Laptop: ping |
| 14:13.07 | beerke | stupid me, have babble as svn copy, hence zip did not pick it up |
| 14:13.39 | CIA-17 | 03shiftos * r25776 10Prat/ (22 files in 2 dirs): Prat: updated esES |
| 14:14.55 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r25777 10Talismonger-2.0/: Talismonger-2.0: removed externals, i changed my mind |
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| 14:17.35 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r25778 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: added glowcap |
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| 14:19.06 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r25779 10Postal/ (Locales/deDE.lua Postal.toc): Postal: added deDE locale by Takorou |
| 14:19.18 | kagaro | you know im really tempted to convert cart mining anf herbs right now to Talismonger for their base.. but sicne it only has english and de translations would break stuff ... sooooooo i havent yet |
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| 14:22.07 | [Ammo] | kagaro: what would be the advantage over the simple Babble thing that's in now? |
| 14:23.18 | kagaro | Talismonger provied the localizations, plus handles all the loot events to detect nodes, and quest item loots. Also adds some functionality like skill required for a given node. It would allow mining, herbs,fishing and treasure module to have a shared base for loot detection and translations |
| 14:23.51 | kagaro | instead of duplicated code to do the same thing |
| 14:27.45 | [Ammo] | why not make talismonger use the localization provided by babble |
| 14:27.54 | [Ammo] | instead of its own tables etc |
| 14:28.42 | [Ammo] | that way talismonger would only need to be english and just use babble to find the correct thing |
| 14:28.43 | kagaro | cause its got more than herbs, ore and fish. also has world nodes, gems, quest items |
| 14:28.59 | [Ammo] | well remove the other junk :p |
| 14:29.00 | [Ammo] | bloat anyway |
| 14:29.07 | kagaro | would need a Babble-Gems, Babble-Containers |
| 14:29.07 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 14:29.17 | sbu | ckknight: hmm something is wrong with minimap display |
| 14:29.28 | kagaro | Talismonger could be used for a prospecting predictor :P |
| 14:29.33 | sbu | circles are moving while walking :o |
| 14:29.43 | [Ammo] | sbu: update all your stuff |
| 14:29.49 | [Ammo] | that was fixed by ckk earlier |
| 14:29.59 | [Ammo] | and no, .zip's are probably not correct |
| 14:30.23 | sbu | uhm |
| 14:31.06 | sbu | i updated ~1h ago from svn :p |
| 14:31.31 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 14:32.09 | _neuron_ | sbu I've seen the same thing as well, it's not entirly fixed :P |
| 14:32.11 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r25780 10MiniButtLib/: |
| 14:32.11 | CIA-17 | MiniButtLib: |
| 14:32.11 | CIA-17 | - Setting properties |
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| 14:35.03 | [Ammo] | Kagaro: you should be able to copy most of the translations from babble-fish etc though |
| 14:35.06 | [Ammo] | for talismonger |
| 14:35.09 | [Ammo] | (if you haven't already) |
| 14:35.41 | kagaro | yeah, i need to copy some more. been slow going though |
| 14:38.14 | kenlyric | what's this really mean? {0} - Skipping. Either it is a subversion working copy or it isn't currently installed. |
| 14:38.26 | kenlyric | since it isn't an svn working copy and it is clearly installed. |
| 14:42.23 | inph | does Athou use irc? |
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| 14:42.35 | _neuron_ | ~seen Athou |
| 14:42.59 | purl | _neuron_: i haven't seen 'athou' |
| 14:43.14 | _neuron_ | inph, probably not :P |
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| 14:44.15 | inph | yeah wondering if he used a diff nick :p |
| 14:44.21 | _neuron_ | no idea :P |
| 14:44.36 | inph | Just been playing with his EnchantList mod |
| 14:44.52 | inph | if he expands that out to support multiple professions it could really be something good |
| 14:47.11 | Health | Which is the perferable wow map viwer? |
| 14:47.20 | Health | as in external app to view instances/zones? |
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| 14:54.17 | kagaro | hmm seems last cart update is messing witht eh minimap icons |
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| 14:56.04 | _neuron_ | yeah :p |
| 14:56.21 | kenlyric | any mods still around which can auto-recast fishing when you loot it? |
| 14:56.32 | kenlyric | or is that something else they "fixed" in 2.0? |
| 14:57.49 | Thorgard | kenlyric, don't think that works anymore.. the 'casting' requires a hardware event.. dunno if you can piggyback that on the looting click. |
| 14:58.17 | kenlyric | fishing is 75% less annoying with the ability to hear sounds while wow is in the background. |
| 14:58.36 | [Ammo] | should be able to make simple oneclick casting though |
| 14:58.52 | [Ammo] | loot and recast by rightclicking the worldframe or something |
| 14:58.59 | kenlyric | just found out about the +healing/spirit food, and my fishing is at 154. |
| 14:59.45 | [Ammo] | I think I have somewhere around 280 fishing |
| 14:59.53 | [Ammo] | never botherered to level it further |
| 15:00.14 | kenlyric | +42 healing/+20 spirit. I'll take it! |
| 15:01.00 | Amadeo | food does that much now? |
| 15:01.15 | kenlyric | my fault, 44 |
| 15:01.22 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27666 |
| 15:01.38 | kenlyric | yeah, there's a spell damage version that does 23 spell damage, from much easier to get basilisk meat |
| 15:01.42 | Amadeo | interesting |
| 15:02.13 | [Ammo] | I might have to pick up my cooking skill again :) |
| 15:02.18 | [Ammo] | it's slacking at 135 or so |
| 15:02.25 | kenlyric | just got the recipe when I moved to the forest zone and saw that it was hot sex. |
| 15:02.38 | Elkano | I hate escort quests that party members are starting when your questlog is full :/ by the time I had freed a slot and looked up the UI function to accept the quest (the popup was gone when the abandon quest popup showed) the mob had moved to far away so the quest directly failed :/ so I'll have to clear BRD again :/ |
| 15:02.56 | [Ammo] | don't do BRD |
| 15:02.58 | _neuron_ | retarded party members then :/ |
| 15:02.59 | [Ammo] | just gogogo outland |
| 15:03.02 | kenlyric | heh, jailbreak. |
| 15:03.07 | _neuron_ | another good point :P, BRD sucks :P |
| 15:03.11 | kenlyric | NOOOOOB! |
| 15:03.34 | kenlyric | I might one day consider getting keyed for BWL and MC, but Ony? no way in hell. |
| 15:03.51 | Elkano | ammo, still haven't got my copy of BC :/ and I want to finish Onyxia pre and MCpre in order to be able to see that instances |
| 15:04.02 | Elkano | well, I've never seen her live |
| 15:04.18 | kenlyric | ahh, well, that's a good reason I guess. |
| 15:04.28 | kenlyric | I've seen her... too many times. |
| 15:04.57 | kenlyric | "thank you ma'am for once again not dropping my trinket. |
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| 15:12.01 | [Ammo] | scale trinket eh kenlyric |
| 15:12.26 | [Ammo] | hmm no complaints about oRA2 yet :) |
| 15:12.30 | [Ammo] | I must have drycoded without errors |
| 15:12.57 | kenlyric | [Ammo]: weep. 11 months with that fine woman and she only ever dropped one. And it went to a paladin. I /wrist |
| 15:13.30 | sbu | [Ammo]: no raiding atm :p |
| 15:13.31 | [Ammo] | hehe |
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| 15:13.54 | kenlyric | though, to be fair she did drop an ungodly amount of priest hats. |
| 15:16.34 | paranoidi | hmmm, what's the tool to convert TGA<->BLP ? |
| 15:16.43 | paranoidi | the only and best I mean :) |
| 15:17.14 | Koaschten | [Ammo] i rather bet its because WAU throws me errors not being able to receive anything ;) |
| 15:17.31 | Koaschten | and i am too lazy to be asked to update manually |
| 15:17.39 | [Ammo] | uh? |
| 15:17.51 | CIA-17 | 03archarodim * r25781 10Decursive/ (Dcr_Events.lua Dcr_Raid.lua): |
| 15:17.51 | CIA-17 | Decursive: |
| 15:17.51 | CIA-17 | - The blacklisted status was not shown correctly on the MUFs, this is fixed. |
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| 15:27.49 | jjb_ | hihi, frostbolt lvl 12 makes less damage than lvl 11 |
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| 15:29.43 | zirah | yeah fantasic *grmpf* |
| 15:30.09 | zirah | i need to be careful so i do not learn it ;-P |
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| 15:33.13 | Fritti | jjb_: eh? |
| 15:33.21 | Fritti | where do you read that? |
| 15:34.28 | jjb_ | i learned the spell |
| 15:34.32 | nae|lap | Rank 12 does more, so I am not sure what they're on about |
| 15:34.45 | steev64 | Coworker said on the phone to a client, "We think what is causing this problem to surface and disappear -- like a shark's fin -- is such and such ..." |
| 15:35.01 | _neuron_ | lol |
| 15:35.03 | steev64 | i wonder about him sometimes |
| 15:35.06 | jjb_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=69007067&pageNo=1&sid=1 |
| 15:35.45 | _neuron_ | wtf :p |
| 15:36.22 | Fritti | jjb_: wtf |
| 15:37.03 | ggilbert | nae|lap: Rank 12 does more, but only one more damage. |
| 15:37.06 | nae|lap | thottbot mentions that rank 12 does more damage though |
| 15:37.30 | jjb_ | Frostbolt Rank 11: 238 mana, 2.5 second cast, 556-599 damage. Slows movement speed by 40% for 9 seconds. |
| 15:37.30 | jjb_ | Frostbolt Rank 12: 247 mana, 2.5 second cast, 553-596 damage. Slows movement by 40% for 9 seconds. |
| 15:37.38 | Fritti | and maybe it's +dmg coefficient is better? |
| 15:37.40 | ggilbert | Thottbot may be wrong. |
| 15:37.45 | jjb_ | no it isnt |
| 15:37.54 | nae|lap | So might that paste - it might be from the beta |
| 15:38.09 | jjb_ | in a blue posts, they try to explain why |
| 15:38.16 | nae|lap | As the discussion on the forums seems to be something ongoing from long ago |
| 15:38.27 | Ordog | a mage in my guild tested that exhaustingly and its really 1 dmg less and 9 mana more |
| 15:38.30 | jjb_ | because of the aq20 drop of FB 11 |
| 15:38.34 | Fritti | nae|lap: no, 18/1/2007 |
| 15:38.42 | Fritti | or US version 01/18/2007 :) |
| 15:39.01 | ggilbert | Here we go. 559-602 vs 566-610 |
| 15:39.09 | nae|lap | I know the post was made then, but it the thread is called '11 vs 12 continues' |
| 15:39.19 | nae|lap | so to me it's a continued discussion from before |
| 15:39.33 | nae|lap | Ah well, I'm not a mage and none of us can change it, so I'll step out of the discussion and do some mining instead :) |
| 15:39.56 | Fritti | I am a frostmage, but you're right, I can't change it :) |
| 15:40.19 | ggilbert | In theory it's getting buffed in a patch or two |
| 15:40.31 | Tornhoof | difference is simple |
| 15:40.43 | Tornhoof | fb11 is an extrapolation of the original damage coefficient curve |
| 15:40.50 | Tornhoof | fb12 is the proper value |
| 15:41.11 | Fritti | define 'proper' in this context? |
| 15:41.17 | Fritti | and 'original' ? |
| 15:41.37 | Fritti | I mean, I don't raid so in theory for all I care they can nerf rank 11 |
| 15:41.43 | Fritti | don't need the dmg output myself |
| 15:41.52 | Tornhoof | original as in 1-60 |
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| 15:42.11 | Tornhoof | they altered the curve |
| 15:42.18 | Tornhoof | so fb12 is on the curve again |
| 15:42.22 | Fritti | ah, right |
| 15:42.29 | Fritti | well then they should've nerfed rank 11 too |
| 15:42.33 | steev64 | i don't raid, and, my mage will never make 60 so i don't particularly care... what i do care about is the fact that since learning eviscerate 9 my eviscerate crits are shit compared to what they were with 8 |
| 15:43.03 | Tornhoof | they cant nerf fb11 since some ppl don't have bc |
| 15:43.18 | steev64 | wasn't uncommon for me to hit 2500 with a crit with eviscerate 8, with 9, i rarely hit for 2k |
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| 15:43.24 | CIA-17 | HotMan: Added support for several druid spells |
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| 15:43.56 | Fritti | Tornhoof: ah, I see |
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| 15:44.28 | Fritti | still, it does seem weird that you get less when buying more :) |
| 15:45.20 | ggilbert | at least they didn't repeat the mistake of 60 |
| 15:45.27 | Fritti | which one? :-D |
| 15:45.45 | ggilbert | Leaving frostbolt way behind |
| 15:46.19 | ggilbert | Rank 10 frostbolt was a level 55 or so spell |
| 15:46.27 | Fritti | ah, yes |
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| 15:47.07 | Tornhoof | they needed to extrapolate the old curve since naxxramas and stuff needed mored dmg |
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| 15:53.22 | Antiarc_ | Hahahahahahahahaha |
| 15:53.29 | Antiarc_ | My buddy just notified me that he found a Fel Reaver ringtone. |
| 15:53.42 | Antiarc_ | That will be -amazing- in crowded areas. |
| 15:53.44 | Antiarc_ | It will go off and you will know who plays WoW by watching who dives for cover. |
| 15:54.55 | yacoob | Antiarc_, last night I set up 'YOU! ARE NOT PREPARED!' as sms tone :D |
| 15:58.04 | kenlyric | fel reavers make me lol |
| 15:58.15 | kenlyric | people don't even move when I shout run! |
| 15:59.30 | nae|lap | I like it when someone is killing mobs and the Fel Reaver 'sneaks' up behind them :) |
| 15:59.47 | [Ammo] | it's not exactly sneaking and still people get killed by it |
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| 15:59.51 | nae|lap | :) yup |
| 16:00.02 | [Ammo] | but a fel reaver ringtone is a good idea |
| 16:00.06 | [Ammo] | someone go extract the mp3 :) |
| 16:00.10 | nae|lap | Perhaps they have custom music on and don't hear them come ;) |
| 16:00.25 | ggilbert | The shaking screen effect doesn't always go off. so sometimes they can sneak up on you |
| 16:00.28 | kenlyric | one time I was in combat and couldn't mount up and every time I changed direction he seemed to follow me, and I still got away. |
| 16:00.34 | sergio | they're pretty fucking obnoxious now but in alpha they didn't make any sounds or shake the floor iirc |
| 16:00.54 | kenlyric | they do make the zone a bit more interesting. |
| 16:02.01 | [Ammo] | hmm, need mpq extractor :) |
| 16:02.09 | nae|lap | google :) |
| 16:02.38 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 16:03.02 | Antiarc|Work | They can occassionally sneak up on you, but for the most part, they're very avoidable. |
| 16:03.06 | Antiarc|Work | I wonder about their pathing, though. |
| 16:03.13 | Adirelle|work | I don't think my wife would understand why I changed her ringtone... |
| 16:03.14 | [Ammo] | teh google |
| 16:03.23 | Antiarc|Work | They seem to follow a "Pick closest PC, path to their current location for X seconds" |
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| 16:03.54 | Antiarc|Work | They feel like an anti-botting measure, really. Which is pretty cool, truth be told. |
| 16:04.03 | durcyn | i soloed a reaver last night... to about 98% |
| 16:04.13 | Adirelle|work | :) |
| 16:04.19 | Antiarc|Work | ggilbert, we gonna hit CoT this week? |
| 16:04.31 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: I think the whole "mob XP sucks out the ass" is also an anti-botting feature. |
| 16:04.31 | ggilbert | Antiarc|Work: I'm always up for it. |
| 16:04.47 | kenlyric | because bots can pretty easily run from specific mobs. |
| 16:04.56 | Koaschten | kenlyric well 500xp / mob is decent |
| 16:04.57 | Antiarc|Work | Mob XP isn't that bad, really. At least, not for a geared-out-the-ass combat rogue. >_> |
| 16:04.59 | ggilbert | Antiarc|Work: I'm probably doing Black Morass tonight with Drinkinarennya |
| 16:05.05 | Antiarc|Work | Nice. |
| 16:05.06 | durcyn | kenlyric: the actual number of quest reward xp is higher han the number of points needed 60-70 |
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| 16:05.14 | kenlyric | Koaschten: not really, since that's about hwat you got when you only needed 200k to level. |
| 16:05.29 | ggilbert | Antiarc, Cinara ( and maybe Nell) dinged last night |
| 16:05.31 | durcyn | kenlyric: i got through maybe a dozen netherstorm quests before finishing |
| 16:05.34 | Antiarc|Work | 70? |
| 16:05.37 | Feldia | kenlyric: I do'nt know about that |
| 16:05.40 | Antiarc|Work | Those guys are nuts. |
| 16:05.43 | Feldia | it's not like people care how long it takes to bot to 70 |
| 16:05.44 | durcyn | kenlyric: so it's not like you even need mob xp =P |
| 16:05.48 | Feldia | they arent putting in any effort |
| 16:05.49 | ggilbert | yeah. Nell was 20% off when I spoke to CInara |
| 16:05.50 | art3mis | yeah the quest reward xp is enough to level you to 70 |
| 16:05.58 | Antiarc|Work | Quest reward XP is verrah nice. |
| 16:06.01 | Koaschten | i did all quests (i mean all) and i reached 70 after 4 quests @ netherstorm |
| 16:06.11 | Feldia | yea I skipped blades edge |
| 16:06.12 | Antiarc|Work | ggilbert: I'm about to hit 66 myself. Yay Cloak of Warlock QQ. |
| 16:06.13 | durcyn | 5-man dungeon experience if effing nuts too, if you've tracked it |
| 16:06.14 | Feldia | and haven't even been to hsadowmoon |
| 16:06.17 | art3mis | the major downside to questing to 70 fast is that it puts you to honuored in most cases for rep and you need revered for the heroic keys |
| 16:06.18 | Feldia | and dinged 70 off of questing |
| 16:06.28 | ggilbert | Feldia: me too. I spent an hour in blade's edge and just got sick of it. |
| 16:06.34 | Feldia | yea |
| 16:06.37 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: It's not like you'll be farming Heroic instances the moment you hit 70. |
| 16:06.37 | Feldia | that zone is awful |
| 16:06.40 | kenlyric | yeah, how do I get more honor hold rep? |
| 16:06.41 | durcyn | art3mis: not so. the 70 instances give kill rep up to revered =) |
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| 16:06.53 | art3mis | at honoured it makes rep grinding much more difficult than doing the instances to grind to honour(since you get exp for kils) and using the quest rep rewards to push you to revered |
| 16:07.00 | [Ammo] | I'm making a point of doing all quests available |
| 16:07.01 | Antiarc|Work | They're more of a go-between between normal 5-mans and raids, I thought |
| 16:07.03 | [Ammo] | did all in Hellfire |
| 16:07.07 | [Ammo] | 6 to go in zangermarsh |
| 16:07.09 | kenlyric | art3mis: yeah, that's something they should tell you at the start. |
| 16:07.13 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: Same. |
| 16:07.14 | [Ammo] | nearly 65 now |
| 16:07.18 | [Ammo] | so quest xp is good |
| 16:07.19 | Antiarc|Work | I'm bleeding a zone dry before I move on. |
| 16:07.22 | durcyn | [Ammo]: level first, then do quests for rep and cold hard cash. |
| 16:07.27 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 16:07.30 | [Ammo] | I just do both |
| 16:07.31 | nae|lap | Antiarc|Work: Same here. I want to see and do everything |
| 16:07.35 | [Ammo] | I do a few instances in between |
| 16:07.37 | Saroz | amagawd |
| 16:07.41 | art3mis | mi not saying all rep gain just stops ;P |
| 16:07.44 | Saroz | cartographer is having a bad day |
| 16:07.50 | ggilbert | I missed an entire quest change in Hellfire by accident and skipped one or two quests here and there. |
| 16:07.57 | art3mis | just that you're better off doing it before you hit honoured and avoiding questing til that point |
| 16:08.08 | shieldb | I keep trying to find a good way to level consortium rep, but I'm thinking my constantly running mana tombs will have to continue at this point |
| 16:08.19 | Antiarc|Work | ggilbert: The Cursed Talismans one? |
| 16:08.21 | durcyn | art3mis: not disagreeing, but also not going to hyjal tomorrow either =P |
| 16:08.25 | ggilbert | Quests want me to go back into Fungorr Cavern? Screw that. |
| 16:08.27 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 16:08.35 | Saroz | cartographer is throwing errors all over the place |
| 16:08.38 | art3mis | either way its all good |
| 16:08.44 | ggilbert | antiarc, Shattered Hand orcs. I thought the NPC was for the zone pvp stuff :) |
| 16:08.57 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah, oops. |
| 16:08.57 | art3mis | the only major change that bugs me about beta->live is that they removed shadowmoon faction rep |
| 16:09.04 | Saroz | ckknight |
| 16:09.14 | art3mis | so everyone pays full price for thier mounts |
| 16:09.36 | art3mis | oh and they removed that quest in hellfire that runs along the ramparts |
| 16:09.42 | art3mis | for the courier i think |
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| 16:09.56 | ggilbert | Antiarc|Work: But I'm 68 and have most of Netherstorm, Shadowmoon, and Blades Edge available. |
| 16:10.19 | art3mis | blades edge is fun |
| 16:10.24 | art3mis | you should do that ;P |
| 16:10.43 | [Ammo] | blades edge is shitty |
| 16:10.44 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 16:10.51 | art3mis | the kind of funny thing about quests is that once you can fly, it makes getting gold super easy |
| 16:10.54 | [Ammo] | still have to do it all |
| 16:11.19 | art3mis | sicne you can just drop complete fly to turn in and at 70 most quests are worth 25g there abouts on turn in |
| 16:11.24 | ggilbert | art3mis: I'll probably do it at 70 for gold |
| 16:11.43 | [Ammo] | yeah 5k gold :( |
| 16:11.43 | art3mis | the quest line in blades with the guy buried is the best |
| 16:11.57 | art3mis | its a stupid kill this many type questline |
| 16:12.03 | art3mis | but the story is great |
| 16:12.18 | art3mis | ditto for the sand gnomes in the wastelands |
| 16:12.49 | art3mis | also once you can fly it makes doignthe repeatable pvp for rep quests simple |
| 16:13.05 | art3mis | which in hellfire can take you to exhalted at 250 a complete |
| 16:13.13 | art3mis | and isnt all that hard |
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| 16:13.21 | art3mis | and will prolly eventually be nerfed |
| 16:13.34 | ggilbert | I just want to hit the 70 instances so I can start getting gear upgrades |
| 16:13.43 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:13.47 | kenlyric | uh, you level first by doing quests for rep and cash :) |
| 16:13.57 | kenlyric | is there another way to level that doesn't require 4 constant companions? |
| 16:14.05 | art3mis | ken you can also level by just instance running ;P |
| 16:14.15 | kenlyric | re: my second sentence :) |
| 16:14.34 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:14.43 | art3mis | ummm kind of |
| 16:14.47 | art3mis | you could pvp |
| 16:15.04 | art3mis | its much much slower mind you ;P |
| 16:15.17 | kenlyric | I have a personal aversion to grinding outside of a quest. |
| 16:15.23 | kenlyric | it makes my brain go numb. |
| 16:15.29 | Saroz | ehh once you have buggrabber, how do you copy the error text |
| 16:15.33 | art3mis | me too and i hate needing people to complete quests |
| 16:15.47 | shieldb | saroz: highlight it and ctrl + c ? |
| 16:15.58 | Saroz | highlight it? it shows in my chat frame |
| 16:16.20 | shieldb | do you also have bugsack? you should be able to get it to kick up in a window |
| 16:16.30 | Saroz | no I dont |
| 16:17.19 | Saroz | do I need that? |
| 16:17.44 | kenlyric | Grab those bugs and throw em inna sack! |
| 16:18.24 | Saroz | k |
| 16:18.30 | kenlyric | damn, my mod memory usage has shot through the roof in the past couple of days. |
| 16:18.52 | Barbanus | kenlyric, mine too, but I have been too busy questing to care :P |
| 16:19.02 | Barbanus | I'm at about 55 now |
| 16:19.17 | shieldb | oh, have you guys noticed anything weird with questfu's quest window recently? |
| 16:19.22 | kenlyric | gc now freezes me up for a few seconds too. |
| 16:19.36 | robotusch | mine just tend to build up over time |
| 16:19.49 | shieldb | it wants to force itself to snap to the top / bottom of the screen wherever I want to put it :| |
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| 16:20.02 | kenlyric | I went from an intitial memory usage of 27 to 38, and it grows now to 55 or 56 at least when it used to only grow maybe to 35. |
| 16:20.13 | Saroz | http://ace.pastey.net/5369 |
| 16:20.29 | Saroz | http://ace.pastey.net/5370 |
| 16:20.49 | Saroz | http://ace.pastey.net/5371 |
| 16:20.55 | Barbanus | Anyone know if there is a ace implementation of monkeyquest? The key difference is that you can show and hide quests directly from the tracker |
| 16:21.04 | Saroz | http://ace.pastey.net/5372 |
| 16:21.05 | Saroz | enjoy |
| 16:21.13 | odt | Barbanus: questfu allows to do that |
| 16:21.19 | shieldb | Barbanus, questfu is fairly close to monkeyquest |
| 16:21.25 | shieldb | fubar_questfu, rather |
| 16:21.48 | shieldb | just right click on it and set it to detached tooltip for closer functionality to monkeyquest |
| 16:23.26 | shieldb | Kemayo, you around? |
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| 16:25.18 | _neuron_ | Barbanus, http://hollowtube.mine.nu/interface/nQuestLog.tgz consider it beta quality |
| 16:28.21 | Saroz | meetingstone summons is the best thing to hit WoW since linked Flight Paths |
| 16:29.02 | kebinusan | agreed, no more wasting shards |
| 16:29.12 | Saroz | no more inviting warlocks |
| 16:29.27 | kebinusan | feh |
| 16:29.31 | Saroz | :) |
| 16:29.53 | kenlyric | Saroz, agreed. |
| 16:30.16 | kenlyric | enslaved demons should murder the warlock than despawn. |
| 16:30.49 | Barbanus | odt, QuestFu doesnt exactly. When you pick up a new quest, you need to enable it to be shown in the tracker (either by the fubar plugin, or the questlog). MonkeyQuest is a lot easier to enable / disable displayof quests :) |
| 16:30.58 | Barbanus | Unless I am missing a feature. |
| 16:30.58 | Saroz | MonkeyQuest ftw |
| 16:31.02 | Tekkub | enslaved demons should kidnap the lock and portal to outland |
| 16:31.23 | Barbanus | _neuron_, I'll try that, thanks :) |
| 16:31.23 | Tekkub | keep them locks on their toes |
| 16:31.35 | _neuron_ | Barbanus, please give me feedback btw, still in heavy development :) |
| 16:32.02 | Barbanus | Saroz, the only complaint I have is that at least the new version isnt marking quests as elite, group, etc. |
| 16:32.11 | Saroz | hrrm |
| 16:32.11 | Saroz | aye |
| 16:32.17 | Saroz | I can live with that |
| 16:32.23 | Saroz | havnt found a good replacement for MQ anyway |
| 16:32.45 | _neuron_ | but the whole checking quests/show hidden button etc is horrible imo |
| 16:32.52 | Saroz | yea |
| 16:32.55 | _neuron_ | show hidden with full questlog guarantees the damn thing goes WAY off my monitor |
| 16:32.57 | Saroz | well, again, can live with it |
| 16:33.15 | _neuron_ | so could I until I got a lot of spare time on my hands, now I'm building a replacement :P |
| 16:33.44 | kenlyric | i love the way questfu works. I can't think of a feature it's missing. |
| 16:33.51 | Barbanus | _neuron_, what I do is click that button, then collapse categories I dont want, and then hide ones I dont want to do right now, and click it off. |
| 16:34.02 | _neuron_ | Barbanus, yes, which is annoying imo :P |
| 16:34.03 | Saroz | last i checked MQ wasnt that well coded either |
| 16:34.06 | kenlyric | especially once the quest tracker gets zones in it. |
| 16:34.07 | nae|lap | How do I, in QuestFu, remove a quest from the tracker? |
| 16:34.08 | Saroz | but again, it owns in functionality |
| 16:34.08 | Saroz | so |
| 16:34.11 | Barbanus | _neuron_, I actually like it, lol |
| 16:34.19 | Barbanus | I'll try yours though :) |
| 16:34.25 | _neuron_ | right click anywhere in the zone or a quest in a zone and get a popup to add/remove quests |
| 16:34.31 | nae|lap | hm |
| 16:34.35 | _neuron_ | (and you can also do it from the fubar plugin) |
| 16:34.37 | nae|lap | alt-click itseems |
| 16:35.21 | Barbanus | _neuron_, the most annoying thing about questfu is that when I get a new quest, I have to add it to the tracker. I wouldnt mind an option to "auto add new quests" and then just a way to hide them |
| 16:35.30 | Barbanus | its most annoying when you are doing chains |
| 16:36.39 | _neuron_ | btw Barbanus if you want all quest objectives shown per default turn it on in settings and turn off "smart quest objective tracking" cuz it screws with it :P |
| 16:37.06 | kenlyric | Barbanus: heh, I'd hate that... i don't want quest tracking turned on unless I"m doing the quest. |
| 16:37.17 | nae|lap | ditto |
| 16:38.03 | Barbanus | kenlyric, well the thing is that I am doing a chain ... I'd rather turn it off after picking it up, then having to sort though all of my quests to turn it on. |
| 16:38.35 | shieldb | Barbanus, you can avoid that by detaching the tooltip for questfu - that will display all the quests you have all the time so you don't have to keep manually adding stuff to the tracker |
| 16:38.56 | shieldb | I do it that way and just collapse the zones that I'm not questing in |
| 16:39.49 | Barbanus | With MQ, I just click the checkbox next to the quest. *poof* gone. However MQ is a bit of a resource hog, and has that bug with not showing if a quest is elite/group |
| 16:39.51 | Saroz | dont like questfu either |
| 16:39.53 | Saroz | MQ ftw |
| 16:40.27 | _neuron_ | question, for zone hilighting (those MQ users), if you have a zone folded, and a quest in that zone hilighted, would you want the zone hilighted? |
| 16:42.07 | kenlyric | I don't like questfu tooltip because the font is too small at my ui scale/resolution. That's easy to fix with tracker, you can just make it bigger. |
| 16:42.37 | nae|lap | If the font is too small, change your ui scale? |
| 16:42.52 | kenlyric | but I need the ui scale small for everything else. |
| 16:42.59 | nae|lap | Or use clearfont or such to change your font size, or change the tooltip font size |
| 16:43.06 | shieldb | nae|lap, I'm not sure that making every piece of the interface larger just for one window is really the way to go :P |
| 16:43.08 | Barbanus | its just too small as a tracker, not as a tooltip. |
| 16:43.08 | nae|lap | you can change the tooltip font size from the fubar menu |
| 16:43.16 | kenlyric | it's just that tooltip which has a tiny text. |
| 16:43.33 | kenlyric | it's not that it's tiny so much that it's red, so harder to read at that size. |
| 16:43.36 | nae|lap | Hm. You two just seemed to contradict eachother |
| 16:43.52 | nae|lap | Oh well. |
| 16:44.08 | kenlyric | Barbanus is right, the tracker is MUCH too small. But it can be increased easily by dragging the corners. |
| 16:45.41 | Saroz | [2007/01/22 17:45:24-3-x9]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\GuildPositions.lua:340: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentEnglishZoneName' (a nil value) --- |
| 16:45.47 | Saroz | [2007/01/22 17:45:28-3-x4]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\GuildPositions.lua:304: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentLocalizedZoneName' (a nil value) --- |
| 16:45.49 | Saroz | fix! |
| 16:45.52 | Saroz | :( |
| 16:46.12 | nae|lap | I wonder why the tracker size is 70% and not 100% by default and why it does not have the background enabled by default. It seems inconsistent when compared to other addons, which show backgrounds/borders by default, then lets users configure it. |
| 16:46.50 | Saroz | [2007/01/22 17:45:57-3-x32]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\Coordinates.lua:295: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentInstance' (a nil value) --- |
| 16:47.29 | kenlyric | forget about the tracker size, you should see aguf unit frames at .64 UI scale. |
| 16:47.41 | kenlyric | they're like a tiny little dot. |
| 16:48.24 | nae|lap | Which has nothing to do with the inconsistency in QuestFu. |
| 16:48.28 | shieldb | kenlyric, yeah I use .64 ui scale and then I have my ag frames set to 125% at a minimum ;P |
| 16:49.05 | kenlyric | mine are at 175 I think, but I like to actually read the numbers too. |
| 16:49.18 | kenlyric | oh, 150. |
| 16:49.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | hi guys |
| 16:49.42 | CIA-17 | 03thalie * r25784 10KC_Items/ (bank/bank.lua chatlink/chatlink.lua): KC_Items: Commiting changes to chatlink and bank (thanks arokh and zidomo) |
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| 16:50.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is tracker? |
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| 16:51.32 | kenlyric | omg, the bank error is fix for maybe? |
| 16:51.38 | kenlyric | *fixed for maybe? |
| 16:51.44 | thalie | maybe |
| 16:51.46 | thalie | :) |
| 16:51.53 | kenlyric | I never say for sure. |
| 16:52.00 | thalie | yeah, me either since i'm at work |
| 16:53.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | i have a 2 part story i'd like to share with all of you |
| 16:53.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | as well as showing my interface |
| 16:53.59 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r25785 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 16:53.59 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:53.59 | CIA-17 | - Updated deDE Local |
| 16:54.38 | Saroz | I hate the new GC mech |
| 16:57.02 | Kanly | hrm |
| 16:57.08 | Kanly | mage nerf gonna piss me off |
| 16:57.35 | tale | the coefficient change? |
| 16:57.38 | Kanly | yeah |
| 16:57.45 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://raydenuni.com/files/images/devilsaur.html <-- raydenuni sees the devilsaur in un'goro |
| 16:58.02 | Kanly | guess ill wait for some math nerd to show whether it's still worth taking the .5 second reduced casting time and accept the 10% coefficient nerf |
| 16:58.14 | Kanly | or if it's better dps to go for impact instead |
| 16:58.32 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r25786 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:58.32 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:58.32 | CIA-17 | - Another deDE Updates |
| 17:00.03 | ggilbert | Kanly: it is |
| 17:00.36 | kenlyric | Kanly, yes, the additional damage you are capable of doing more than makes up for the damage lost. |
| 17:01.20 | kenlyric | how long is frostbolt before the talent? |
| 17:01.21 | Kanly | fuck frostbolt, im a fire mage |
| 17:01.21 | Kemayo | shieldb and vhaarr: I'm around for a bit. |
| 17:01.21 | kenlyric | how long is fire whatever that spell is. |
| 17:01.29 | Kanly | fireball is 3.5 untaltented, 3 talented |
| 17:01.41 | Kanly | but empowered fireball gives +15% spell damage |
| 17:02.01 | Kanly | basically it's two talents working against each other, which is damned annoying |
| 17:02.02 | shieldb | Kemayo, I've been getting weird stuff with the quest details window from questfu recently |
| 17:02.37 | shieldb | the detached questfu tooltip works fine |
| 17:02.46 | ggilbert | Kanly: Emp Fireball mostly negates the nerf. So put 4 points into it and you end up slightly ahead of the game compared to 1.12 |
| 17:03.02 | ggilbert | A bit behind compared to 2.0.3 though |
| 17:03.13 | shieldb | but when clicking on one of those to get the details window to pop up, it always wants to snap itself to the top or bottom of the screen |
| 17:03.40 | shieldb | I can drag it to try to reposition it, but then it jumps around as soon as I let go of it |
| 17:03.41 | packetlss | anyone know of an addon that vendors grey stuff upon visiting vendor? |
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| 17:04.05 | shieldb | packetlss, automaton can autovendor grey stuff when you hit a vendor |
| 17:04.20 | shieldb | questfu_garbagefu can do the same thing as well as some other stuff for you, too |
| 17:04.23 | shieldb | err |
| 17:04.26 | kenlyric | just by itself, the talent increases dps by 15% of the overall spell damage. |
| 17:04.28 | shieldb | fubar_garbagefu |
| 17:04.34 | kenlyric | while it reduces 10% of bonus damage |
| 17:04.41 | shieldb | I apparently can't think of more then one addon at a time today |
| 17:04.45 | Kemayo | shieldb: That's a weird TabletLib bug, and I haven't been able to work out why it happens yet. |
| 17:05.13 | shieldb | well, at least it isn't just me then |
| 17:05.33 | Kemayo | Nope. It happens to me too, so I'll definitely be trying to fix it. |
| 17:05.39 | shieldb | can I go into savedvariables and manually position it there? :P |
| 17:05.49 | shieldb | I know where I want it to go, but it won't let me drag it there |
| 17:05.52 | ggilbert | Figure if your bonus damage is about 50% of your total, then it's a 5% reduction of a 15% increase. |
| 17:06.11 | tale | i like AutoProfit for vendoring greys |
| 17:06.51 | packetlss | shieldb: thx |
| 17:06.57 | Kemayo | shieldb: A potential reason has just occured to me. I won't be able to test things out until this evening, though. |
| 17:07.06 | shieldb | woo! |
| 17:07.20 | shieldb | packetlss, I'd suggest trying both because they do slightly different things |
| 17:07.27 | Barbanus | Saroz, in the MonkeyQuest.lua file, replace "ELITE" with "GROUP" and it will then mark quests properly |
| 17:07.53 | shieldb | automaton will just vendor greys, but garbagefu can be set up to autovendor other types of items |
| 17:08.24 | packetlss | i'll try garagefu (since i got several fubar addons already) |
| 17:08.27 | Barbanus | automations "sell all greys" is better than garbagefu's tho, way way way faster :P |
| 17:08.39 | shieldb | yeah I run both |
| 17:08.52 | shieldb | automaton dumps all the grey items in your bag in about a second |
| 17:09.03 | shieldb | then I hit the garbagefu button and it dumps all the white stuff I don't care about |
| 17:09.13 | Barbanus | I don't even notice it does it half of the time |
| 17:09.16 | kenlyric | automaton you have to be careful with though, it has several default options that can surprise you if you're not ready for them :) |
| 17:09.20 | shieldb | i.e. scroll of spirit V and so forth |
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| 17:09.33 | kenlyric | nothing quite like autoaccepting a summons when you're running to the repair guy |
| 17:09.36 | Barbanus | shieldb, yea, I do the same. |
| 17:09.41 | Barbanus | kenlyric, haha yea |
| 17:09.45 | shieldb | kenlyric, I've got that turned off :P |
| 17:09.47 | kenlyric | shieldb: why in the HELL would you ever sell scroll of spirit V? |
| 17:09.56 | shieldb | Rogue? |
| 17:10.01 | kenlyric | shieldb: I have it turned off now too.... Now that I know about it. |
| 17:10.09 | Barbanus | better question ... why wouldn't you? lol |
| 17:10.18 | kenlyric | <3 spirit. |
| 17:10.31 | Barbanus | blah, spirit is useless for me (Paladin) |
| 17:10.41 | Saroz | Barbanus, is there a way to announce progress on the quest? |
| 17:10.44 | Barbanus | I don't stop healing enough to make any use of it at all :P |
| 17:10.52 | Saroz | I think there was once |
| 17:11.00 | Barbanus | Saroz, that will make it show [60+] on "group" quests |
| 17:11.10 | shieldb | Barbanus, pallys don't get any sort of "regen continues while casting" bonuses anywhere? |
| 17:11.18 | Saroz | Barbanus, ya, asking if you can print "X slain o/10" in party |
| 17:11.19 | Saroz | or something |
| 17:11.25 | Barbanus | Blizz changed it from being a "elite" quest, to a "group" quest |
| 17:11.29 | Barbanus | Saroz, oh, I have no idea |
| 17:11.34 | Saroz | k |
| 17:11.43 | Barbanus | Saroz, I just found this fix on their forums, thought I would share :) |
| 17:11.51 | Saroz | :p |
| 17:12.02 | Barbanus | shieldb, nope, none. |
| 17:12.19 | Barbanus | shieldb, thats why mp5 is so important for a paladin. |
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| 17:12.27 | Barbanus | But, we get free heals when we crit :P |
| 17:12.32 | Barbanus | so that makes up for it. |
| 17:12.34 | shieldb | The last time I played a pally was when MC was uber endgame, so I couldn't remember :P |
| 17:12.36 | Antiarc|Work | And you get mana for being healed. |
| 17:12.47 | Barbanus | Antiarc|Work, that too |
| 17:13.07 | Barbanus | Last night with a moonkin in my group, I had 30% crit on Holy Light. |
| 17:13.23 | Barbanus | 30% of my heals at 150% healing, FTW |
| 17:13.34 | Barbanus | free |
| 17:14.14 | Azurewrath | mhm... shouldn't the guy who sells the blue high warlord weapons be in the hall of legends? |
| 17:14.59 | shieldb | no way, he needs to be inaccessable to people without the expansion to make them feel like second class citizens as much as possible |
| 17:15.11 | thalie | i agree |
| 17:16.04 | Barbanus | lol |
| 17:16.06 | CIA-17 | 03darravis * r25787 10Chronometer/Data/Druid.lua: |
| 17:16.07 | CIA-17 | Chronometer: |
| 17:16.07 | CIA-17 | - Druid - Maim |
| 17:16.07 | Antiarc|Work | Holy crap on a stick. |
| 17:16.08 | Antiarc|Work | +18 Block to shield requires 10x Primal Earth |
| 17:16.12 | Antiarc|Work | o.0 |
| 17:16.21 | shieldb | that's a lot |
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| 17:16.23 | shieldb | but isn't so bad |
| 17:16.27 | shieldb | primal earth isn't hard to farm |
| 17:16.32 | shieldb | primal air on the other hand.... |
| 17:17.05 | Barbanus | they seem easier to farm |
| 17:17.38 | Azurewrath | shieldb: mhm.. where is he then? Just dinged 70 ;) |
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| 17:18.18 | Kemayo | For information overload... http://subtlety.errtheblog.com/O_o/45.xml |
| 17:18.51 | Antiarc|Work | That's 100 motes. |
| 17:19.04 | Antiarc|Work | You're going to have probably 300-400 kills to get 100 motes. |
| 17:19.06 | Amadeo | row row row your mote |
| 17:19.15 | tale | ow |
| 17:19.25 | shieldb | Azurewrath, I have no idea where the guy is :P |
| 17:19.42 | Antiarc|Work | Also, I am stuck at 336 enchanting and skilling up is very difficult now. |
| 17:19.43 | shieldb | I was just making a joke about npc placement |
| 17:19.55 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r25788 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 17:19.55 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:19.55 | CIA-17 | - Typo Fix |
| 17:19.57 | Barbanus | Or... |
| 17:20.01 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, I really hate the implementation for the new enchanting recipies |
| 17:20.03 | Barbanus | camp this dude!! http://www.thottbot.com/?n=1050119 |
| 17:20.21 | Barbanus | He sells 3 motes of air for 16s each, lol |
| 17:20.35 | shieldb | all the highend recipies are BoP, so you need to farm for them yourself |
| 17:20.43 | shieldb | it's like that for almost every tradeskill |
| 17:21.10 | Barbanus | Looks like motes of air are like 30-60% drop rate ... |
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| 17:21.30 | Barbanus | Thats much better than the 1-3% that essence of air was |
| 17:21.53 | shieldb | Barbanus, I can say from experience that it seems to be much lower then 30% |
| 17:22.07 | thalie | god i love my draenei shaman |
| 17:22.08 | paranoidi | damn this, I've never grasped LUA's idea of local functions. OnUpdate method calls my local function, which calls another local function .. which fails |
| 17:22.44 | shieldb | plus you need to farm 10 of them to use them |
| 17:22.44 | paranoidi | but if I call that function directly from OnUpdate it works?! |
| 17:22.56 | Barbanus | awww well, thott says like 30%, allakhazam says 15-20% |
| 17:23.02 | shieldb | the difference between the motes and the old essence of whatever is that it's just more consistant - you can farm for a couple hours and you'll at least have some motes, rather then getting really unlucky and coming up empty handed with no essences |
| 17:23.10 | Kemayo | paranoidi: I've found it to be minorly position sensitive. Trying to call a local function defined below the current function has been known to fail. |
| 17:23.17 | Barbanus | shieldb, exactly. |
| 17:23.26 | Barbanus | which is much nicer imo |
| 17:23.30 | shieldb | yeah |
| 17:23.36 | Barbanus | feels like you are actually accomplishing something .. cause .. you are. |
| 17:23.40 | paranoidi | Kemayo: well, that was my only hunch what could cause it, moving code around ;P |
| 17:23.44 | shieldb | motes of air are no fun to farm for though |
| 17:23.57 | shieldb | there's not anywhere where there are always a lot of elementals that drop it |
| 17:24.20 | Kemayo | paranoidi: Well, move the local functions such that the one called is above the one calling it, and see whether that helps. :D |
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| 17:24.42 | Barbanus | shieldb, according to allakhazam they are all over Nagrand |
| 17:24.56 | shieldb | they're all over nagrand, but they aren't grouped anywhere in particular |
| 17:25.02 | shieldb | so you'll see one guy here, one guy there |
| 17:25.07 | Barbanus | ahh |
| 17:25.07 | shieldb | but there's nowhere really to go to find a bunch |
| 17:25.14 | paranoidi | Kemayo: ... it did, but doesn't this mean it's possible to create series of local functions that are impossible to arrange in such way that every call works ;P |
| 17:25.15 | Barbanus | I haven't been there yet, so I don't know. |
| 17:25.23 | shieldb | like for motes of earth there are plenty of areas where there are just a lot of earth elementals there |
| 17:25.39 | shieldb | or motes of fire you can farm up in bladefist mountains and have not too bad of a time |
| 17:26.22 | Tekkub | I love motes, they're a much better system |
| 17:26.34 | Antiarc|Work | I agree. |
| 17:26.37 | _neuron_ | does ZONE_CHANGED trigger on reloadui? |
| 17:26.39 | Tekkub | I think I only ever got 2 essences back when I was leveling to 60 |
| 17:26.40 | Antiarc|Work | But 100 motes for an enchant is brutal. |
| 17:26.46 | Tekkub | I've gotten like 8 motes so far |
| 17:26.58 | Antiarc|Work | I farmed up the 10 Air for my 12 AGI to cloak enchant. |
| 17:27.10 | Barbanus | I've got like 3 primals of shadow and 6 motes in my bank, lol |
| 17:27.24 | shieldb | shadow is easy to farm for :) |
| 17:27.25 | Antiarc|Work | Primal Shadow is like 2g on my AH |
| 17:27.31 | Antiarc|Work | Life is something like 4g. |
| 17:27.43 | shieldb | just go kill the void spawns around oshu'gun |
| 17:27.59 | shieldb | life you farm dead mires in zangarmarsh or something |
| 17:28.15 | Tekkub | that's ironic |
| 17:28.22 | shieldb | yeah definately |
| 17:28.40 | shieldb | there are other places to farm it but that area is easy to just constantly grind on the bog lords / bog giants for it |
| 17:28.52 | kenlyric | plus, skin them for herbs! ;) |
| 17:28.57 | shieldb | yeah |
| 17:28.58 | Tekkub | we need a mod to do something with motes, name it eMote |
| 17:28.59 | kenlyric | or, leave them to me to skin for herbs! |
| 17:29.11 | shieldb | I spent a couple hours there last week and got like 12 primal life worth |
| 17:29.31 | shieldb | Tekkub, we need a mod for sorting through jewelcrafting gem designs |
| 17:29.34 | Antiarc|Work | Ouch. +7 resist all to cloak is 4x primal air/fire/water/life. |
| 17:29.35 | kenlyric | does anyone know if the plant turnin for CR ever stops? |
| 17:29.41 | kenlyric | or can you do it all the way to exalted? |
| 17:29.44 | Antiarc|Work | It does at Honored. |
| 17:29.54 | Tekkub | there's a nice wowwiki page for gems shieldb |
| 17:29.58 | Antiarc|Work | I hit that just by questing in Zangarmarsh. |
| 17:30.02 | kenlyric | hmmm.. I'm honored. I guess I should check that out and start selling the plants. |
| 17:30.12 | Tekkub | or rather, jewels |
| 17:30.21 | shieldb | I'm at 355 and right now it's a huge pain when people ask me "hey what gems can you make for these color slots" and having to dig through all my stuff looking for it |
| 17:30.27 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Jewel |
| 17:30.39 | Tekkub | point them there :) |
| 17:31.07 | Tekkub | general rule of thumb, whites are vendor buyable, greens are crafted, blues are craft and rep rewards |
| 17:31.20 | Tekkub | purples are rep I think |
| 17:31.25 | kenlyric | I don't think that's what he's asking at all :) |
| 17:31.36 | shieldb | it's not really |
| 17:31.38 | kenlyric | he wants something that will let him sort by gem color. |
| 17:31.55 | Tekkub | I know, but point people that ask at that page :) |
| 17:31.57 | kenlyric | like being able to sort tailoring patterns by what item slot they make |
| 17:32.04 | Tekkub | it's nice and laid out by color then stat |
| 17:32.06 | kenlyric | I've always thought that would be hot. |
| 17:32.24 | Tekkub | can't you filter by that? |
| 17:32.33 | shieldb | no, you can filter it to "just show gems" |
| 17:32.38 | Barbanus | kenlyric, you can do that now, yes? |
| 17:32.38 | shieldb | and that's it |
| 17:32.42 | kenlyric | Barbanus, no. |
| 17:32.49 | kenlyric | you can just filter by a slot. |
| 17:32.50 | Tekkub | you can take the lists from that page and mke em into PT sets |
| 17:32.56 | kenlyric | so you can have it just show you pants recipes. |
| 17:32.57 | Barbanus | I thought they changed that .... |
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| 17:33.08 | Tekkub | then base a mod off that :) |
| 17:33.12 | kenlyric | well, I haven't been a tailor in a while. |
| 17:33.21 | Barbanus | uhhh, isn't it broken down into the sections on the prof page too? |
| 17:33.22 | shieldb | Barbanus, you might be able to sort tailoring like that.. I know you can sort enchanting like that |
| 17:33.24 | durcyn | kenlyric: erm. Manufac. |
| 17:33.25 | kenlyric | I just used advance tradeskill window to make my own sorts. |
| 17:33.30 | shieldb | there's just no way to sort jewelcrafting like that |
| 17:33.37 | Barbanus | shieldb, yea, enchanting was changed to be like that |
| 17:33.49 | shieldb | I'm at 349 enchanting, that's real handy |
| 17:33.54 | Barbanus | blacksmithing I know isnt like that. |
| 17:34.06 | Barbanus | Its mail, plate, reageant, etc |
| 17:34.19 | Barbanus | Tekkub, that would be a great mod :) |
| 17:34.38 | Tekkub | like EnchantMe, for jewels |
| 17:34.43 | shieldb | yeah jewelcrafting is the same way - consumables, misc, gems, tradeskill items, etc |
| 17:34.55 | Tekkub | call it FamilyJewels since the draenei joke about that |
| 17:35.21 | Barbanus | I wish the blacksmithing window was like Plate => Legs => Item |
| 17:35.32 | Barbanus | Plate => Head => Item |
| 17:35.35 | Barbanus | etc |
| 17:35.51 | Barbanus | right now its just plate => ordered by skill |
| 17:35.53 | durcyn | Barbanus: psst. Manufac =P |
| 17:36.11 | durcyn | sorts crafting by wear slot / item type |
| 17:36.24 | Tekkub | I love EnchantMe, it's great for not pestering people about what the enchants do |
| 17:36.27 | durcyn | and puts it in dewdrops so you don't have to futz with the default frame |
| 17:36.38 | Tekkub | you can ask directly, with a link, if they can make exactly what you want |
| 17:37.12 | jaete | bah, sanity giving me syntax errors, due to incorrect usage of pairs() or something |
| 17:37.16 | jaete | newest version :p |
| 17:37.22 | Barbanus | durcyn, oooo it uses PT :) |
| 17:37.23 | Antiarc|Work | jaete: Which revision? |
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| 17:37.54 | jaete | r25437 |
| 17:38.07 | Antiarc|Work | What file/line? |
| 17:38.14 | Tekkub | however, right now I'm riping apart RatingsBuster and super simplifying it |
| 17:38.21 | jaete | just a sec |
| 17:38.24 | thalie | awesome tekkub |
| 17:38.25 | Tekkub | so I'll add FamilyJewels to my "someday" list |
| 17:38.26 | Barbanus | Tekkub, what is that? |
| 17:38.38 | durcyn | Barbanus: converts ratings to percents |
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| 17:38.53 | Tekkub | it converts "Blah blah defense rating" into a % and tags that into the tooltip |
| 17:38.56 | thalie | yeah, ratingsbuster is a "good thing" |
| 17:39.00 | Barbanus | OMFG &$#@&$*@# |
| 17:39.02 | Barbanus | Really?!? |
| 17:39.04 | Tekkub | it's Ace2, but it's still a mess |
| 17:39.14 | thalie | tekkub: nod |
| 17:39.15 | durcyn | and is a great reference to The Big Hit |
| 17:39.16 | Tekkub | I'm striping it down to essentials |
| 17:39.30 | shieldb | Barbanus, adds percents to ratings so when you mouseover an item you get "Equip: 16 critical strike rating (0.97%)" instead of just "Equip: 16 critical strike rating" |
| 17:39.37 | Tekkub | besides I see no reason to tag that info into equipcompare's tooltip |
| 17:39.43 | Tekkub | you can just compare the raw ratings |
| 17:40.20 | kenlyric | are there any up-to-date mods like link wrangler? |
| 17:40.20 | jaete | ...my bad, apparently it wasn't actually r25437 i was running |
| 17:40.22 | Barbanus | Hmmm, am I blind? Or is that not on wowace.com/files? |
| 17:40.23 | jaete | better this way tbh ;) |
| 17:40.30 | thalie | it's not in the SVN, barbanus |
| 17:40.34 | shieldb | Barbanus, it's on wowinterface |
| 17:40.36 | Barbanus | blah! :P |
| 17:40.37 | kenlyric | I don't need the other features, except to open more than one itemlink at a time. |
| 17:40.40 | Barbanus | kk |
| 17:40.49 | durcyn | kenlyric: Links, it's on the svn |
| 17:40.50 | Antiarc|Work | jaete: :) |
| 17:40.55 | Barbanus | dammit, you guys suck |
| 17:41.08 | Barbanus | you are the cause of my ever increasing mem usage! |
| 17:41.12 | Barbanus | all these good mods... |
| 17:41.15 | kenlyric | hahaha. |
| 17:41.27 | kenlyric | I think maybe some runaway mod might be doing it too. |
| 17:41.28 | kenlyric | RUNAWAY! |
| 17:41.34 | Tekkub | RatingsBuster does some nasties with Compost too that I really don't like |
| 17:41.45 | kenlyric | or it's all just grid. |
| 17:41.55 | Barbanus | Tekkub, are you the original author? or just taking it over? |
| 17:42.16 | thalie | kenlyric: it's kc_items, trust me |
| 17:42.21 | thalie | kenlyric: :) :) |
| 17:42.22 | Tekkub | I'm doing what I do best... taking a good idea, stripping out the bullshit and streamlining the code :) |
| 17:42.31 | Tekkub | speed >> options for me |
| 17:42.33 | Barbanus | Tekkub, hehe |
| 17:42.41 | kenlyric | thalie: yeah, it could be that. |
| 17:42.47 | durcyn | kenlyric: i'm sorely tempted to hook idcard into links too, unless you want to :o |
| 17:42.53 | Barbanus | Tekkub, and sticking it on the svn so I dont have to search for it to update it?! :) |
| 17:43.08 | kenlyric | durcyn: I'm lucky if I remember what lua stands for most days. |
| 17:43.15 | Tekkub | nope, subscribe to my group if you want to know when I update shit |
| 17:43.24 | Barbanus | link? |
| 17:43.26 | durcyn | it's not an acronym |
| 17:43.26 | Tekkub | I even send links |
| 17:43.34 | durcyn | Barbanus: http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow |
| 17:43.42 | Barbanus | Thanks |
| 17:43.43 | Tekkub | http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 17:43.48 | Tekkub | all the links are there |
| 17:44.10 | Tekkub | http://groups.google.com/group/tekkub-wow |
| 17:44.18 | Tekkub | the blog auto-sends to that group |
| 17:44.30 | Antiarc|Work | Lua is portuguese for "Moon". |
| 17:44.49 | Tekkub | where's luawolf when you need him |
| 17:45.33 | Tekkub | I guess we'll just make fun of luasorrow instead |
| 17:46.11 | Antiarc|Work | Anyone here used EnchantList? |
| 17:46.28 | Antiarc|Work | It is super sexy and I think it should be extended to work with all kinds of tradeskills and across multiple channels. |
| 17:46.31 | Barbanus | woot, subscribed your rss feed to my rss reader :P |
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| 17:47.42 | Tekkub | actually anti, that's a very good idea |
| 17:47.54 | Antiarc|Work | I know! :) |
| 17:47.56 | Tekkub | and you could make it reply for jewels |
| 17:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. |
| 17:48.01 | Antiarc|Work | Or anything. |
| 17:48.04 | Tekkub | !jewel red |
| 17:48.08 | Tekkub | :) |
| 17:48.13 | Tekkub | !jewel agility |
| 17:48.15 | Antiarc|Work | I will probably work on it sometime, but I have about 6 other projects I'm working on. |
| 17:48.17 | Antiarc|Work | Exactly. |
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| 17:49.46 | Tekkub | hell with some creative addon messages you could make a guild-wide crafter list |
| 17:50.01 | Antiarc|Work | I don't even think it'd have to be that creative. |
| 17:50.16 | Tekkub | each crafter would need the addon of course, but they could sync with each other and answer queries for more that just themselvels |
| 17:50.19 | Antiarc|Work | It'd be fairly easy to implement a pull-based structure like that. |
| 17:50.53 | Tekkub | !jewel red agi >> Bill can make [blah], joe and bobby can make [blah2] |
| 17:51.24 | Antiarc|Work | !jewel red agi >> Requires [X], [Y], 2x [Z]. Can be made by Joe, Jane, Jerry, and Jim. |
| 17:51.25 | Tekkub | you just need to get it syncing with other members that have the addon |
| 17:51.28 | durcyn | sendaddonmessage guild, who can make itemid, etc... response yes character itemid, etc |
| 17:51.32 | Antiarc|Work | Don't even need that, I think. |
| 17:51.36 | Antiarc|Work | You could combine responses. |
| 17:51.45 | durcyn | pop up a query window like ora checks |
| 17:51.50 | Tekkub | no, don't send addon for queries |
| 17:51.51 | Antiarc|Work | I'll probably start working on it today. ;) |
| 17:51.52 | durcyn | add names as they answer |
| 17:52.02 | Tekkub | the idea is to make it usable for those that don't have it |
| 17:52.12 | Tekkub | only the crafter needs the addon |
| 17:52.31 | Tekkub | you can't depend on other guildies to install addons |
| 17:52.33 | durcyn | ah, should be easy to extend enchantlist for that |
| 17:52.45 | durcyn | for varying values of "easy" |
| 17:52.47 | Tekkub | making it work on a nekkid clientside is very powerful |
| 17:52.56 | kenlyric | so, can you ony install spellthread on your own gear? I see nothing in the tooltip to indicate that, but everything I"m reading says it's a nice bonus for tailors. |
| 17:53.08 | Tekkub | elist only needs to sync itemids and enchantids :) |
| 17:53.11 | thalie | no, you can spellthread other people' |
| 17:53.22 | durcyn | kenlyric: should be appliable in trade. the only bind-on-enchant new crafting stuff is all the ring enchants. |
| 17:53.24 | Tekkub | thread doesn't bind right? |
| 17:53.29 | Tekkub | it didn't used to |
| 17:53.35 | thalie | it hasn't changed, tek |
| 17:53.45 | Tekkub | so you can sell it off, there ya go |
| 17:54.18 | kenlyric | I need to stop fretting over the aldor/scryer choice anway, since I already chose. |
| 17:54.40 | Tekkub | aldor scryer seems mostly for the resist gear, frankly |
| 17:54.40 | _neuron_ | heh /me picked that quickly at 4am |
| 17:54.40 | thalie | a guy in my guild switched from aldor to scryer... he said it sucked real bad |
| 17:54.47 | _neuron_ | cuz I knew it'd annoy the living shit out of me if I didn't |
| 17:54.57 | kenlyric | _neuron_: my reason too. |
| 17:55.03 | Tekkub | they don't want joeanycrafter making both resists without an extra ton of rep grinding |
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| 17:55.21 | kenlyric | I don't care about crafting at all, so I just chose based on the shoulder enchants :) |
| 17:55.32 | Tekkub | yup, that seems the second factor |
| 17:55.33 | kenlyric | but after I chose, I saw that healing staff. |
| 17:55.52 | Tekkub | the gear are just chance if you'll nothave a better replacement by the time you can buy it |
| 17:56.05 | kenlyric | that's what I'm hoping. |
| 17:56.19 | kenlyric | an enchant I'll be able to use again and again as I upgrade gear. |
| 17:56.19 | thalie | the healing staff IS pretty nice though |
| 17:56.30 | Tekkub | that's really how it appears to me at least, I chose based on the chants and that agi ring |
| 17:56.46 | Tekkub | I'm an engineer, so craft never factors into my choices >< |
| 17:57.28 | Barbanus | http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gear1sd.jpg |
| 17:57.32 | Barbanus | He's sexy |
| 17:57.33 | Tekkub | I'm still thinking I should just drop it and go with leather after I hit 70 |
| 17:57.43 | kenlyric | all the healing stuff should be aldor, and damage should be scryers. Filthy blood elves. |
| 17:58.11 | Tekkub | yea! if it weren't for pallies BE's wouldn't even have healers! |
| 17:58.20 | kenlyric | it's like those scourge that can heal... wtf? |
| 17:58.23 | Tekkub | no, I don't know what classes BEs get, nor do I care |
| 17:58.39 | kenlyric | heh, they get priests too |
| 17:58.55 | Tekkub | gay priests |
| 17:58.58 | Tekkub | oh wait |
| 17:59.05 | Barbanus | wtf, blood elves twist magic to the EVIL ends .. why would they heal IMO |
| 17:59.05 | kenlyric | but the aldor are draenei *priests*. They should have the healing stuff. |
| 17:59.08 | Tekkub | all priests, and BE, are |
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| 17:59.33 | kenlyric | that's why my blood elf can be nothing but a paladin. |
| 17:59.33 | Antiarc|Work | Can you "/cast Engineering; /cast Enchanting" with one button press? |
| 17:59.34 | Tekkub | heal to keep things they're abusing alive? |
| 17:59.43 | kenlyric | the apex of gay. |
| 18:00.07 | durcyn | hrm. anyone know where the level 70 pvp vendors went to? can't buy it in sw for some reason. |
| 18:00.09 | Tekkub | the BE's need only one more thing to make them the ultimate homo... |
| 18:00.11 | kenlyric | I often fight with him shirtless just so I can stare and bask in the gay. |
| 18:00.15 | Tekkub | the human male run/jump |
| 18:00.25 | thalie | their jump is pretty gay, tek |
| 18:00.34 | Tekkub | okey then just the run |
| 18:00.36 | thalie | hehe |
| 18:00.40 | kenlyric | Tekkub: you've obviiously never seen a blood elf spin. |
| 18:00.40 | Barbanus | the holy tree of BE paladins / priests should be locked down IMO |
| 18:00.50 | Barbanus | BE priests should be forced shadow |
| 18:00.51 | thalie | i am so glad i rerolled draenei... lol |
| 18:00.54 | Tekkub | I know they're obsessed with scruuncis |
| 18:01.11 | Tekkub | draenei are the new galka |
| 18:01.14 | durcyn | it's times like this i'm glad i only play gnomes. |
| 18:01.28 | Tekkub | so far I'm loving the draenei 1-10 quests |
| 18:01.34 | thalie | yeah they are really fun |
| 18:01.37 | thalie | :) |
| 18:01.47 | Tekkub | furblogs! |
| 18:01.59 | thalie | wish they'd given them a new ghost wolf form though |
| 18:02.01 | kenlyric | I went to the secondary town (first inn) but there didn't seem to be enough quests. |
| 18:02.11 | Tekkub | it's a furry's dream... a suitable replacement for galka, and they get all happy with the thongbears |
| 18:02.19 | _neuron_ | is calling RegisterEvent more than once bad? (ie do I need to check if I've already registered the event) |
| 18:02.25 | Tekkub | oh yea ghost wolf forgot that |
| 18:02.43 | NeoTron | kenlyric: it's not that doing a few quests will give you reputation that unlocks new quests? |
| 18:02.49 | ag` | _neuron_: aceEvent will give you an error if you do |
| 18:02.49 | thalie | could be confusing on the battlefield... two ghost wolves |
| 18:02.55 | _neuron_ | kk, thanks |
| 18:02.56 | NeoTron | I must say I really enjoy that aspect of the new questing |
| 18:03.00 | Tekkub | they send you to some other spots ken |
| 18:03.19 | Tekkub | there's an ally marine crew and furblog village with quests too |
| 18:03.20 | kenlyric | I just hate that I have one quest right now. |
| 18:03.27 | NeoTron | thalie: yeah. perhaps that's on purpose? It's like a class-specific orb of deception |
| 18:03.32 | kenlyric | oh, I think that quests sends me to the furbolgs. |
| 18:03.44 | thalie | haha maybe, i plan to test it out in pvp |
| 18:03.54 | Barbanus | the draino shaman totems are awesome |
| 18:03.58 | Tekkub | the tomem quest? it kicks ass |
| 18:04.02 | Tekkub | totem* |
| 18:04.07 | NeoTron | of course the big red letters over your head might help guide your enemies |
| 18:04.13 | nae|lap | especially the bit with the cat. It's great |
| 18:04.19 | nae|lap | The graphical effects are lovely |
| 18:04.26 | Tekkub | yup |
| 18:04.32 | Tekkub | that was hella fun |
| 18:04.37 | NeoTron | so totem quests suck. Are the draenei ones better than the horde ones? |
| 18:04.51 | Barbanus | btw, there is no drainei in the game, only drainos .. they are blue, and clog drains! |
| 18:04.58 | NeoTron | probably what I hated most with my shaman. going all over the world |
| 18:05.04 | Tekkub | no it's not a get your totem quest, it's a find the furblog totems quest |
| 18:05.44 | Tekkub | it's alliance, they're gonna make em all like the air totem just to piss the hordies off :) |
| 18:06.03 | Tekkub | "Level 3 for your friend as well!" |
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| 18:08.11 | Vanish | Is anyone else having problems with the custom tracker in FuBar_QuestsFu? |
| 18:08.18 | kenlyric | why does every zone in outlands have a +5% damage buff? |
| 18:08.23 | renchap | update tabletlib and questfu |
| 18:08.42 | nae|lap | Vanish: Define 'problems' |
| 18:09.08 | Vanish | Ahh, ok. Thanks renchap. I tried to downgrade TabletLib but that didn't help. I'll upgrade both this evening then |
| 18:09.24 | Vanish | nee|lap: The custom tracker and custom log refuses to show at all |
| 18:10.23 | Barbanus | So with the new WAU, can I install standalonelibs, and then update without externals, and everything will work? or is there a possibility I will still be missing some libs? |
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| 18:10.37 | nae|lap | Vanish: Ah, odd. Be sure to get the latest version though |
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| 18:11.04 | nae|lap | And is it now preferred to use separate libs instead of getting the latest version using WAU of the mod with libs? |
| 18:12.01 | Barbanus | nae|lap, I'm not sure, heh |
| 18:12.04 | kenlyric | well, one thing to remember is that if the lib is updated but the mod isn't versioned up, you won't get the updated zip. |
| 18:12.21 | nae|lap | hm |
| 18:12.49 | Barbanus | kenlyric, all zips are updated with new libs every time. |
| 18:13.00 | Barbanus | But if you have WAU set to check the version, then it wont update |
| 18:13.10 | kenlyric | Barbanus: yes, but wau won't download unless the revision number has changed. |
| 18:13.14 | nae|lap | It's just confusing to see people here recommend getting libs separately to fix problems when I thought that not using separate libs was the preferred method. |
| 18:13.19 | Barbanus | But if you have it set to always update, and the libs change, the new one will go in |
| 18:13.25 | Tekkub | you have that backwards Barbanus |
| 18:13.37 | kenlyric | Barbanus: that would be a crazy amount of load on the server for the number of times per day that I update :) |
| 18:13.44 | Barbanus | kenlyric, true. |
| 18:13.49 | Tekkub | zips only get libs put in them when the mod changes not the lib |
| 18:13.57 | Barbanus | Tekkub, no, thats changed now |
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| 18:14.15 | Fisker- | anyone know some stuff about rainbow tables? |
| 18:14.17 | Barbanus | The new zip script always updates all libs, at least thats what I was told about a month back when it changed |
| 18:14.22 | Fisker- | And more specifically where to get some :P |
| 18:15.39 | kenlyric | Londomollari |
| 18:15.47 | kenlyric | ooops, that's not the mail window. |
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| 18:19.16 | evl | can I do SetScript on a FontString? |
| 18:19.21 | Chinku | hi |
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| 18:21.12 | Chinku | short question: is the outlands server crashing regulary on US realms, too, or does that only affect EU servers? |
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| 18:22.32 | shieldb | Chinku, I was on a large portion of the weekend and it was AOK for the most part |
| 18:23.02 | shieldb | booted everyone once that I can recall, and had several lag spikes, but not 'constant' problems |
| 18:23.29 | shieldb | I play on tichondrius so people playing on different server clusters may have had different experiences, though |
| 18:23.53 | Barbanus | 0 crashes on Korgath this weekend |
| 18:23.56 | Barbanus | oh wait .. 1... |
| 18:24.06 | Barbanus | But thats not bad |
| 18:24.11 | Barbanus | (Korgath US) |
| 18:24.11 | Chinku | well, that's nothing compared to the EU machines... |
| 18:24.35 | kenlyric | Kargath was complete crap through the week, but mostly fine over the weekend. |
| 18:25.21 | Chinku | on GilneasEU we had about 15-20 outlands crashes; it got better after 9 p.m., but today it's even worse. crash every 20 mins or so |
| 18:25.33 | Chinku | (for sunday, that is) |
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| 18:25.55 | Barbanus | Question... say I have 4 Ace mods installed with imbeded libs. 3 have up-to-date, 1 has old libs. The one with old libs starts with an A, so its loaded first. What happens? Does Ace automatically throw out the out of date one? or is taht the one that will be used? |
| 18:26.00 | tale | Chinku: Argent Dawn's Outlands (US RP East) crashed a bunch too |
| 18:26.03 | Barbanus | embeded* |
| 18:26.50 | shieldb | Barbanus, as I understand it you'll have two instances of the libs loaded after initial garbage collection - old and new versions |
| 18:27.31 | shieldb | so if you have three mods loading babble-2.2 and one loading babble-2.1 you'll have one instance of 2.2 and 2.1 afterwards |
| 18:27.46 | Barbanus | shieldb, not exactly what I meant. |
| 18:28.08 | Barbanus | What if I had Babble-2.2 rev 4322 and Babble-2.2 rev 4321 |
| 18:28.17 | shieldb | ahh |
| 18:28.29 | shieldb | I think in those cases it keeps the newer one and junks the old one |
| 18:28.43 | Barbanus | Yea, thats what I am unsure about ... does it really? :) |
| 18:29.38 | Barbanus | It "seems" like this handles that (this is from GloryLib) |
| 18:29.38 | Barbanus | if not AceLibrary:IsNewVersion(MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION) then return end |
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| 18:34.53 | Saroz | http://ace.pastey.net/5379 |
| 18:34.54 | Saroz | anyone? |
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| 18:35.20 | kergoth | Barbanus: yes, it does. |
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| 18:35.32 | Barbanus | kergoth, thanks :) |
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| 18:35.50 | kergoth | Barbanus: theres no possibilities, one is that the newer version is loaded first, in which case the second hits that conditional and never loads |
| 18:35.59 | mjc_ | kergoth: decided I want to do an emacs/vim style UI |
| 18:36.00 | mjc_ | :) |
| 18:36.04 | kergoth | the other is that the older one loads first, which performs an upgrade when it throws out the old |
| 18:36.06 | Barbanus | I was just worried about those mods I install from wowinterface, and don't get updated as often as WAU as far as libs go. |
| 18:36.20 | kergoth | not a worry, its one of hte advantages of embedded libs with versioning |
| 18:36.29 | kergoth | mjc_: scary :) |
| 18:36.34 | Barbanus | kergoth, thanks :) |
| 18:37.22 | kergoth | Barbanus: naturally this is part of why embedded has a longer load time than standalone.. in addition to the time parsing all the files, if you have differing versions, you could have multiple lib upgrades just within the addon loading process.. every time |
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| 18:39.23 | Barbanus | kergoth, hehe yea |
| 18:39.34 | Barbanus | but also makes it robust |
| 18:40.13 | kergoth | quite, and standalones is a pain since you cant quickly just enable one addon for testing |
| 18:40.17 | kergoth | have to go enable each lib too |
| 18:41.16 | pastamancer | I only have standalone versions of the libraries I actually commit to and then only because I need to have them checked out of dev instead of svn |
| 18:41.50 | pastamancer | for CastComm and UTF8, I commit direcly from Grid's libs folder |
| 18:42.18 | mjc | kergoth: conkeror ftw ;) |
| 18:44.19 | kergoth | heh, never tried htat |
| 18:44.46 | pastamancer | well, they're on my svn, not the ace svn |
| 18:45.20 | kergoth | i know, i have your google code mirrored in my svk |
| 18:45.21 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:46.25 | pastamancer | I'm really surprised nobody needed a utf8 library for wow lua before |
| 18:47.08 | kenlyric | they probably needed it, just didn't have it :) |
| 18:47.11 | kergoth | probably nobody knew better |
| 18:47.13 | kergoth | indeed |
| 18:47.48 | kenlyric | most mods don't go beyond english, french, german, and spanish versions, so they wouldn't need utf8 anyway. |
| 18:48.13 | pastamancer | I suppose so, you can still get multibyte characters with fr/de/es though |
| 18:48.14 | kenlyric | unless wow requires it... |
| 18:48.39 | Tekkub | I bet kergoth has my WTF folder mirrored too ^^ |
| 18:48.46 | kergoth | pastamancer: i expect when people did things like, say, shortening a name like in grid, they just blindly went by bytes instead of characters |
| 18:48.50 | kergoth | Tekkub: indeed :P |
| 18:49.10 | Tekkub | hey, it makes keeping my laptop in sync oh so easy |
| 18:49.22 | pastamancer | kergoth: and I expect the asians ran into the same problems they did with Grid |
| 18:49.47 | kergoth | Tekkub: i used to keep my entire mozilla profile in svn |
| 18:50.06 | kergoth | what sucks is when you upgrade an extension, it removes the old one and adds the new one, losing the svn metadata :( |
| 18:50.13 | Tekkub | yea I have a USB-key SVN as well, for more "secure" things |
| 18:50.22 | kenlyric | hmmmm. |
| 18:50.26 | kenlyric | I'm fascinated by this. |
| 18:50.38 | Tekkub | and I just use google browser sync :) |
| 18:50.41 | pastamancer | sayclub committed an initial utf8sub which was incredibly inefficient, thus prompting my implementation |
| 18:50.47 | kenlyric | I use some crappy backup software to put my firefox profile on my flashdrive. |
| 18:50.50 | Tekkub | although that doesn't sync extensions |
| 18:51.05 | kenlyric | google browser sync doesn't sync extensions :/ |
| 18:51.12 | kergoth | i have to have a bunch of stuff on my svn on my usb stick, stupid work machine at work is on a completely physically isolated network |
| 18:51.16 | kergoth | for security |
| 18:51.16 | kenlyric | and, when it's broken it sucks. |
| 18:51.19 | kergoth | government work ftl |
| 18:52.01 | kenlyric | I also back up my WTF... used to do my addons folder too, but all those libs made the copy way too slow. |
| 18:52.25 | kergoth | maybe i should svn my wtf too, never thought about that, oddly enough |
| 18:52.53 | kenlyric | that way my work and home computer have the exact same setups, always. |
| 18:52.55 | pastamancer | that's an interesting idea |
| 18:52.56 | Barbanus | kergoth, you need to use a different versioning software that doesnt throw the metadata inside the dirs :) |
| 18:53.03 | kenlyric | i'm OCD without it. |
| 18:53.40 | kergoth | Barbanus: i do use svk on my linux machines, svk doesnt use metadata in the checkout the way svn does |
| 18:53.42 | kenlyric | just have to remember to filter out .bak files |
| 18:53.44 | kergoth | but in widnows.. :\ |
| 18:53.49 | kenlyric | what the heck are .bak files for, anyway? |
| 18:54.04 | kenlyric | besides the obvious, does wow actually use them? |
| 18:54.08 | Tekkub | as long as you don't SVN the file that has you graphics settings it's great, unless you run at the same res on both comps |
| 18:54.19 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 18:54.22 | kenlyric | Tekkub: that's what I do. |
| 18:54.27 | TheKarn | ckk loves me |
| 18:54.29 | kenlyric | since the whole layout depends on the resolution. |
| 18:54.50 | Tekkub | yea I have to run the laptop at a lower res with scaling on to get the areas to match up |
| 18:54.51 | ckknight | it's true |
| 18:54.51 | TheKarn | hmm ck, wht isnt manatombs in cart? |
| 18:54.52 | kenlyric | my computer at work is widescreen, so it kinda sucks. |
| 18:54.53 | kergoth | thats always annoyed me, i always wanted to add positioning by % of screen to visor |
| 18:55.00 | Barbanus | kergoth, ahhh |
| 18:55.02 | ckknight | TheKarn: cause no one put it in yet. |
| 18:55.16 | ckknight | I taught Kemayo how to, so you may see it soon |
| 18:55.21 | TheKarn | k |
| 18:55.22 | ckknight | wait, not Kemayo |
| 18:55.26 | ckknight | someone else... |
| 18:55.33 | TheKarn | kergoth? |
| 18:55.35 | ckknight | no |
| 18:55.36 | TheKarn | or kealten? |
| 18:55.38 | ckknight | no |
| 18:55.40 | kergoth | put what in? |
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| 18:55.51 | ckknight | Mana Tombs |
| 18:56.04 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:56.24 | kergoth | mjc: heh, i modified my local externalscp to know how to rm standalones and add the embeds, or vice versa |
| 18:56.34 | Tekkub | maybe I should just get a new vid card |
| 18:56.39 | Tekkub | hellfire hates me |
| 18:56.51 | Tekkub | and I've got $100 of sexmas money left |
| 18:57.04 | kenlyric | heh, hellfire would like you more with more ram. |
| 18:57.08 | kergoth | i keep forgetting to go bring my video card to the ups store |
| 18:57.11 | kergoth | i need to send it in for rma |
| 18:57.13 | Tekkub | I have 2GiB, thanks |
| 18:57.24 | kenlyric | then why would hellfire care? |
| 18:57.28 | kergoth | i'm still using a crappy backup getting 11fps at 1280 instead of my old 120 and 1680 :( |
| 18:57.51 | Tekkub | indoors I get 40FPS smoothe, outdoors I get 10 and movement gets stuttery |
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| 18:58.24 | Tekkub | places like shatter point are even worse |
| 18:58.39 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:58.40 | Tekkub | plus I'd like a card with dual DVIs on it for my panels |
| 18:58.41 | kenlyric | flying into shattrath is worse than ironforge. |
| 18:58.51 | kenlyric | hmmm.. dang, how old is the card? |
| 18:58.56 | Tekkub | right now mon2 is on VGA |
| 18:59.05 | Tekkub | it's a ATi 9600 |
| 18:59.07 | kergoth | someone should start maintaining FixMe again |
| 18:59.16 | kergoth | instead of forcing people to use a bunch ofs eperate blizzard bug fixup addons |
| 18:59.23 | Tekkub | tirtiary monitor is on a ATi7500 PCI |
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| 18:59.39 | Tekkub | FixMe was thraes' wasn't it? |
| 18:59.43 | Tekkub | he's still around |
| 19:00.37 | Funkeh` | hey folks |
| 19:00.37 | ckknight | hey Funkeh |
| 19:00.37 | ckknight | now that you're on, can someone help me test RollCall-1.0/Guild Positions? |
| 19:00.38 | Tekkub | considering this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150163 |
| 19:00.38 | Tekkub | thoughts? |
| 19:00.50 | sergio | is it better to switch to skinning +10 weapons for every little thing you skin or is it usually not worth it (i.e. will you really get more hides+leather instead of scraps) |
| 19:00.54 | ckknight | jut have to be enUS |
| 19:00.56 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25789 10Cartographer/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer: update script, mana tombs map verified |
| 19:01.59 | TheKarn | whats this new mod ck/ |
| 19:02.03 | Saroz | ckknight, my cartographer is totally broken -.- see tells :p |
| 19:02.14 | ckknight | Saroz: yea, I don't know |
| 19:02.18 | ckknight | TheKarn: Guild Positions module in Cart |
| 19:02.25 | TheKarn | cool |
| 19:02.27 | TheKarn | i'll test :P |
| 19:02.30 | ckknight | TheKarn: cool |
| 19:02.34 | TheKarn | but i assume i need other people to have it? |
| 19:02.39 | ckknight | hop onto Baelgun Horde |
| 19:02.40 | kenlyric | sergio: you get your skin based on the mob, not you. |
| 19:02.49 | TheKarn | ah |
| 19:02.50 | KarlThePagan | were any of the cooldown count addons updated to the new frame? |
| 19:02.51 | TheKarn | cant test then :P |
| 19:02.52 | kenlyric | your skinning ability only determins your success in the skin |
| 19:02.53 | TheKarn | i'm eu |
| 19:02.54 | ckknight | blah |
| 19:02.57 | ckknight | sux |
| 19:02.58 | TheKarn | you know htat :P |
| 19:03.04 | Barbanus | Is it at all possible to add your current position to instance maps? |
| 19:03.06 | ckknight | no, I don't keep track |
| 19:03.09 | kenlyric | failing 7 times doesn't cause it to be scraps :) |
| 19:03.10 | ckknight | no, Barbanus |
| 19:03.17 | Barbanus | bah |
| 19:03.20 | Barbanus | that would be too useful |
| 19:03.20 | NeoTron | failing 7 times is just annoying... :) |
| 19:03.24 | kenlyric | right. |
| 19:03.39 | NeoTron | although I find skinning equally easy to skill up compared to *shiver* mining |
| 19:03.44 | kenlyric | so, yeah, it's worth it as you'll fail less often and you'll be able to skiin higher level mobs sooner. |
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| 19:03.55 | kenlyric | heh, skinning is freaking easy to level. |
| 19:04.08 | NeoTron | they made it a lot harder |
| 19:04.17 | kenlyric | nothing like an infinitely renewable supply of farming nodes :) |
| 19:04.19 | NeoTron | but due to extreme ease of finding skinning targets it's still easy |
| 19:04.21 | NeoTron | right |
| 19:04.30 | Saroz | ckknight, but your cart is working fine, or you getting the errors aswell? |
| 19:04.32 | kergoth | damnit, i wanted to pester ammo about something yesterday, but now i've forgotten what it was |
| 19:04.34 | NeoTron | profitable too, relatively speaking |
| 19:04.42 | kenlyric | I'm like 335 herbalism and 371 skinning, and just finished zangarmarsh. |
| 19:04.50 | NeoTron | >2g per stack of 20 scraps and similar level of pricing for 20 skins on my server |
| 19:05.00 | NeoTron | ah herbalism seems easier than mining |
| 19:05.02 | kenlyric | I wish you skilled up off herbalism "skinning" |
| 19:05.09 | NeoTron | I've seen more herb nodes without tracking than I have mining nodes |
| 19:05.15 | kenlyric | NeoTron: it is. Herbalism you only have to pick once per node. |
| 19:05.23 | kenlyric | and the nodes are generally where you are fighting, not at the edges. |
| 19:05.24 | sergio | kenlyric: okay, i thought so but I think someone told me a while back that having all your +gathering stuff gave you a better chance for stuff but I didn't think so |
| 19:05.29 | ckknight | Saroz: mine's fine. |
| 19:05.30 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:05.52 | NeoTron | funny thing is in the past I've found mining easier to level due to fewer kinds of nodes and a lot of availability |
| 19:05.57 | kenlyric | though, mining is more profitable now. |
| 19:06.04 | NeoTron | while herbalism seemed to be ahead of my skill level often |
| 19:06.13 | kenlyric | all those jewelcrafters buying raw ore... hot! |
| 19:06.15 | NeoTron | heh so far I haven't sold any ore but the prices seems to be really high |
| 19:06.26 | ckknight | is there anyone American that can spare 5 minutes? |
| 19:06.36 | NeoTron | well engineers, blacksmiths too :) |
| 19:06.37 | kergoth | i can, but i'm at work :P |
| 19:06.42 | ckknight | blah |
| 19:07.09 | Saroz | ckknight, ok I don't get that then... very odd |
| 19:07.24 | Saroz | noone else have cart throwing errors? |
| 19:07.57 | Barbanus | Saroz, not last night, no |
| 19:08.00 | kergoth | my bro does, something about an upvalue being nil, but he isnt on current svn yet |
| 19:08.03 | Saroz | I don't even see the menu anymore |
| 19:08.04 | Saroz | brrr |
| 19:08.17 | Barbanus | Saroz, is there anything else throwing errors? |
| 19:08.19 | Barbanus | maybe a lib? |
| 19:08.22 | Saroz | nope |
| 19:08.37 | ckknight | I can't figure out his issue, it's methods in self that don't exist |
| 19:08.40 | ckknight | so *shrug* |
| 19:08.50 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, ping us locale here |
| 19:08.53 | Saroz | [2007/01/22 19:37:09-4-x931]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\GuildPositions.lua:340: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentEnglishZoneName' (a nil value) --- |
| 19:08.56 | Saroz | [2007/01/22 19:37:12-4-x126]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\GuildPositions.lua:304: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentLocalizedZoneName' (a nil value) --- |
| 19:09.02 | ckknight | stop that. |
| 19:09.15 | ckknight | blah |
| 19:09.27 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: okay, want to help test Cartographer? |
| 19:09.32 | Saroz | :| |
| 19:09.40 | KarlThePagan | sure i'll have to be a little covert |
| 19:09.51 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: just need you to log on to Baelgun Horde and accept a ginvite |
| 19:09.57 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 19:09.58 | Saroz | hrrm, instancemaps.lua can't call SetCurrentInstance |
| 19:10.00 | Saroz | maybe thats it |
| 19:10.21 | ckknight | Saroz: I believe you have an error before that isn't letting Cartographer.lua to fully load. |
| 19:10.26 | Saroz | aye |
| 19:10.30 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, running carto r25658 |
| 19:10.41 | Mikma | [Ammo]: so, you know is Postal going to get an alt+click to trade item to another player? |
| 19:10.42 | KarlThePagan | err wait |
| 19:10.43 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 19:10.57 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: just check if you have the GuildPositions module |
| 19:11.08 | KarlThePagan | yes |
| 19:11.18 | ckknight | then you should be fine |
| 19:11.25 | Saroz | ckknight, is Cartographer:SetCurrentInstance(nil) correct? |
| 19:11.27 | kergoth | Mikma: uh |
| 19:11.33 | Barbanus | Saroz, try updating cart in WAU, go to prefs, change "SkipVersionCheck" to true. |
| 19:11.36 | Mikma | kergoth: hi |
| 19:11.36 | ckknight | yes. |
| 19:11.42 | kergoth | Mikma: grennon wrote altclicktoadditem for a reason |
| 19:11.43 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r25790 10Prat/modules/ServerNames.lua: Prat: Restructure our internal data to be 1 table keyed by server |
| 19:11.45 | Saroz | I update directly from SVN |
| 19:11.47 | kergoth | Mikma: since it didnt belong in postal |
| 19:11.56 | kergoth | Mikma: its what does alt click to trade |
| 19:12.04 | Barbanus | Saroz, are you updating the externals at the same time? |
| 19:12.19 | Mikma | oh yeah, another addon to do the same than gmail did |
| 19:12.33 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: tell me when you're on |
| 19:12.35 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, add Karrl to friends |
| 19:12.40 | KarlThePagan | zoning in |
| 19:12.40 | kenlyric | Mikma, but that function isn't just needed by mail. |
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| 19:12.45 | kergoth | Mikma: as it should be. trading is not mail |
| 19:14.48 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, go |
| 19:14.50 | Saroz | ckknight, can it be because cart receives a guild position before it's fully loaded? |
| 19:15.12 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: I ginvited. |
| 19:16.10 | Barbanus | is the guildpositions module integrated into cart? (I dont see it on http://files.wowace.com/) |
| 19:16.19 | Saroz | yes |
| 19:16.58 | Saroz | hrm, maybe OnCommReceive is fired before cart is fully init'd |
| 19:17.01 | ckknight | yes, Barbanus |
| 19:17.14 | ckknight | Saroz: hrm, possible... |
| 19:17.27 | ckknight | though, no |
| 19:17.28 | kenlyric | how does that work? |
| 19:17.32 | kenlyric | only with other cart users? |
| 19:17.33 | ckknight | Saroz: it's registered on OnEvent. |
| 19:17.36 | ckknight | yes, kenlyric |
| 19:17.49 | Saroz | well, it doesnt know "Cartographer" inside OnCommReceive |
| 19:17.51 | Saroz | so something is fubar |
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| 19:18.52 | ckknight | turn off !BugGrabber |
| 19:18.59 | ckknight | see if you're missing an error |
| 19:19.05 | Saroz | k |
| 19:21.22 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: I see you squashed the first line is bold-thingy :> nice |
| 19:21.23 | Saroz | haha, Babble-Zone, translation for Azeroth doesnt exist |
| 19:21.38 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: um, not to my knowledge |
| 19:21.41 | kergoth | pfft, azeroth is overrated anyway |
| 19:21.52 | kenlyric | Azeroth, is that some kind of hat? |
| 19:21.53 | Saroz | all my externals are updated |
| 19:21.53 | Gnarfoz | hm, then maybe someone fiddled with tablet? dunno :D |
| 19:21.54 | Saroz | wtf |
| 19:22.10 | Gnarfoz | any reports of minimap icons not moving (i.e. not staying where the notes are, but moving around with you?)? |
| 19:22.37 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: saw it once last night with an InFlight-placed note |
| 19:22.49 | durcyn | ui reload fixed it, so i shrugged it off |
| 19:22.55 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 19:22.57 | Amadeo | Cartographer isn't working for me either |
| 19:23.10 | Saroz | something is fubar in babble-zone |
| 19:23.13 | stavmar | Is stich and alternative to tradeskillUI? |
| 19:23.33 | stavmar | an* |
| 19:23.43 | durcyn | stavmar: looks to be a replacement for GFW_AutoCraft |
| 19:24.22 | stavmar | I see, is someone still maintaining tradeskill UI, It is does not have all the new recipies in ti just yet (BC recipies)? |
| 19:25.16 | Saroz | uhm |
| 19:25.21 | Saroz | are the SVN mirrors out of sync? |
| 19:25.23 | Saroz | or something? |
| 19:25.31 | ckknight | quite possible |
| 19:26.06 | Saroz | yup |
| 19:26.09 | Saroz | thats why |
| 19:26.09 | Saroz | gg |
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| 19:27.00 | Barbanus | svn2: 25528 svn1: 25790 |
| 19:27.01 | Barbanus | heh |
| 19:27.09 | Saroz | aye |
| 19:27.15 | Barbanus | someone smack svn2 |
| 19:27.35 | Amadeo | I have 25789 from WAU |
| 19:27.42 | Amadeo | well, for Cartographer |
| 19:27.57 | Amadeo | BugSack spams errors and shuts down on me! |
| 19:27.57 | Barbanus | Yea |
| 19:28.04 | Barbanus | this was the rev for the whole svn |
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| 19:29.15 | durcyn | sylvanaar: ping |
| 19:31.32 | OvrLrd-Q | ckknight: ping |
| 19:31.54 | ckknight | OvrLrd-Q: pong |
| 19:32.06 | Saroz | noone pings me :| |
| 19:32.23 | Barbanus | Saroz: ping |
| 19:32.23 | Amadeo | Saroz: ping |
| 19:32.28 | Saroz | <3 |
| 19:32.36 | Amadeo | Pingles...once you pop |
| 19:32.38 | OvrLrd-Q | http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/270, dont know if it started in the new revision, but got that error then 17 more just like it |
| 19:36.30 | OvrLrd-Q | And I dont know if it's related, but the icons on the minimap aren't scrolling with the minimap |
| 19:36.46 | ckknight | you aren't on the latest version |
| 19:37.35 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: after going AFK, it doesn't look like you're sending notes anymore... |
| 19:38.06 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, verifying... moving north |
| 19:38.17 | ckknight | yep, got your new position. |
| 19:39.20 | OvrLrd-Q | ckknight: huh, strange :( just updated through WAU right before I logged in |
| 19:39.33 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 19:39.53 | Barbanus | question on GuildPosition, does it work on zones outside of your own? can you check on a guild member in another zone? |
| 19:40.32 | kenlyric | I take it guild members have a special mod channel they can talk over? |
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| 19:40.57 | kenlyric | cause, my current guild situation is... well, let's just say I'd rather have FriendPosition :) |
| 19:41.41 | KarlThePagan | these mage changes are fucking stupid |
| 19:41.52 | KarlThePagan | (the improved fireball / frostbolt change) |
| 19:42.36 | ckknight | thanks, KarlThePagan |
| 19:42.39 | ckknight | gotta go |
| 19:42.40 | ckknight | just /gqui |
| 19:42.55 | kenlyric | hah, never! |
| 19:43.18 | kenlyric | KarlThePagan: mages were not underpowered enough. |
| 19:43.25 | Garoun|Loupana | you are probably going to see a lot of guilds breaking up into small 'power groups' |
| 19:43.28 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.31 | ckknight | cya all |
| 19:43.36 | Garoun|Loupana | later ck |
| 19:45.19 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, mages are strong... but the change is fucking stupid because it creates a pve disadvantage for taking a pvp talent |
| 19:45.21 | kenlyric | KarlThePagan: and because I did the math and I can now share, the talent for frost increases dps by 20% of total, and reduces it by 10% of +spell damage. |
| 19:45.31 | KarlThePagan | they should fix it without creating a rift between pvp and pve spec's more than exists |
| 19:45.38 | kenlyric | nah, faster casting times aren't just a pvp talent. They increase your throughput. |
| 19:45.57 | KarlThePagan | yes but the cost is now throughput vs efficiency |
| 19:46.07 | KarlThePagan | for longer fights you're fighting mana regen vs damage output |
| 19:46.29 | KarlThePagan | on a frostbolt the nerf makes it like your coefficient is of a 2.67s spell |
| 19:46.36 | kenlyric | you're still better off taking the talents for pve. You're just less better off than before. |
| 19:46.48 | KarlThePagan | really depends |
| 19:47.21 | KarlThePagan | tho I haven't stepped into Khazzaran so ... I guess I can reserve some judgement |
| 19:47.28 | KarlThePagan | but it's not the best way to fix this problem |
| 19:48.29 | KarlThePagan | if mages damage in the endgame is a problem just give bosses a little more spell school resistances |
| 19:48.34 | KarlThePagan | or mobs or both |
| 19:49.02 | KarlThePagan | I doubt pvp is a concern at the moment |
| 19:50.59 | Nickenyfiken | damn i saw a flying mount for the first time in game today. i need one now! :-P |
| 19:51.40 | Barbanus | I need 5k gold, lol |
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| 19:52.15 | Dhraga | Evening |
| 19:52.16 | kenlyric | I'll take the cheap one, tyvm |
| 19:53.14 | Dhraga | I get this error http://pastey.net/5382 in the CharaterInfoStorage.lua in line 333 http://pastey.net/5383 .... Anyone got a clue what have changed ? |
| 19:53.27 | kenlyric | and woo, 600g so far in 3 levels |
| 19:53.39 | kergoth | damn |
| 19:54.10 | groll | Sairen is ur page ever comming up again? :P |
| 19:54.18 | kenlyric | I don't know, I got that same error, but I just removed that mod because I didn't know what it did or why I had it :) |
| 19:54.35 | kenlyric | kergoth: it helps that glowcap is selling for 1g EACH on my server. |
| 19:54.43 | kergoth | hahah |
| 19:54.49 | Dhraga | that mod does about the same thing as tekkubs onestorage |
| 19:54.55 | kenlyric | I sold a stack of 27 for 22g and nearly died. |
| 19:54.55 | kergoth | i need to get my rogue past 61 in that case, start farming in zangarmarsh :P |
| 19:55.07 | kenlyric | screw that, go there at 61. |
| 19:55.28 | Dhraga | any of our beloved coders that could just peek at it ? |
| 19:55.28 | kergoth | true, lots of mobs arent a problem at 61 even |
| 19:55.34 | kergoth | was out there fishing yesterday |
| 19:55.51 | kenlyric | I'm going to see if I can capitalize on it this week, before people come to their senses. |
| 19:56.43 | kenlyric | me too http://ctscreens.net/4202 - my favorite screenshot in the game so far. |
| 19:56.47 | Dhraga | I presume that its the function getItemStringFromLink in line 30 to 34 that must be altered |
| 19:56.59 | Dhraga | but how I dont know |
| 19:57.47 | Dhraga | I have seen talk about the item links before, what is wrong with this one ? local _,_,itemString = strfind(link,"item:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)") |
| 19:58.57 | KarlThePagan | Dhraga, because of sockets/gems itemid's have more numbers added on the end |
| 19:59.09 | Dhraga | how many more ? 3 ? |
| 19:59.18 | KarlThePagan | 5? i don't recall |
| 19:59.23 | Dhraga | ah |
| 19:59.53 | Dhraga | So just continue to add the %+d+; 5 times then |
| 20:00.01 | kergoth | pretty sure it went from 4 numbers to 8 |
| 20:00.06 | Dhraga | Ill try it ;) |
| 20:00.06 | snurre | hm, which addon is converting stuff into item links? |
| 20:00.36 | snurre | i cant link elite quests, only shows up as stupid item links :( |
| 20:00.38 | Dhraga | Hmmm... KcItmes have a linkview, not sure if its operational |
| 20:01.10 | Barbanus | snurre, do you have itemsync? |
| 20:01.12 | kenlyric | operational is an interesting, loaded word. |
| 20:01.12 | snurre | might be ludwig, but it doesnt have any options |
| 20:01.26 | kergoth | ludwig does do item link creation like that |
| 20:01.44 | snurre | gah, and no option for it? |
| 20:01.50 | kergoth | not sure |
| 20:02.00 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r25791 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Added tooltip color/alpha configuration. |
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| 20:03.31 | snurre | hm, ill delete linkerator.lua |
| 20:04.17 | snurre | wtb better looking armor for lvl70s |
| 20:04.23 | snurre | i look like a damn lvl20 |
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| 20:04.30 | Trancer | TBC = The Big Clownparade |
| 20:04.47 | Trancer | Everybody looks like big ass morons atm, silly armor |
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| 20:05.22 | Silviu- | good that i`m only 63 and i can keep my t3 :)) |
| 20:05.28 | kenlyric | lol, you apparently have never looked at tier 1 gear before... |
| 20:05.33 | kenlyric | now that's assclown design. |
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| 20:06.00 | kenlyric | Remember, people with eyeballs designed that. |
| 20:06.57 | kenlyric | I remember my joy and elation when they buffed the ZG shoulders and made them better than prophecy. |
| 20:08.08 | Hjalte | Anyone around that can help me troubleshoot something in Baggins? |
| 20:08.52 | Trancer | kenlyric: hehe yes, although they also look crappy ;( |
| 20:09.00 | Trancer | wish you could disable them alltogether |
| 20:09.03 | kenlyric | omg suck! |
| 20:09.09 | kenlyric | ZG shoulders were HOT! |
| 20:09.24 | kenlyric | though, I'll admit the mantle of the blackwing cabal was hotter. |
| 20:09.26 | Trancer | for pREIZT? hmhm.. I don't think so :o |
| 20:09.31 | Trancer | right ;) |
| 20:09.31 | kenlyric | at least I never had to wear t2 shoulders. |
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| 20:09.35 | Trancer | I like the PVP shoulders aswell |
| 20:09.39 | bjarvis | With WowAce, what happens if the sender and receiver have different memoizations registered? chaos? or just inefficiency? |
| 20:09.48 | Trancer | and I liked some level 26 shoulders :o |
| 20:09.51 | Trancer | but they had rather shit stats |
| 20:10.01 | kenlyric | screw stats, gear is for sexy. |
| 20:10.29 | kenlyric | I used to somtimes keep my flarecore mantle on all through MC just because I hated prophecy so much. |
| 20:11.03 | KarlThePagan | lawl yea |
| 20:11.27 | Codayus | ZG shoulders + Flowing Ritual Robe looked really nice. |
| 20:11.28 | Trancer | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17047 |
| 20:11.30 | KarlThePagan | i still wear 2pc zg set |
| 20:11.31 | Trancer | those kenlyric :) |
| 20:11.55 | Trancer | but I am horde on my priest :(( |
| 20:11.56 | Codayus | Besides, ZG shoulders compared well to t2... |
| 20:12.04 | KaeltenAway | morning guys |
| 20:12.05 | Codayus | For a priest. |
| 20:12.05 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 20:12.12 | kenlyric | Codayus, almost exactly the same. |
| 20:12.13 | KarlThePagan | and now that they nerfed the fuck out of the priest t2 bonus |
| 20:12.14 | Trancer | ZG shoulders were insanely imba compared to T2 |
| 20:12.16 | Trancer | morning |
| 20:12.19 | _neuron_ | has the cartographer minimap funkyness been fixed? |
| 20:12.28 | KarlThePagan | _neuron_, what funkyness is this? |
| 20:12.30 | Trancer | hmhm.. actually I got more mp5 with the current T2 than before :o |
| 20:12.30 | kenlyric | I never wanted t2, except maybe to make my 8 piece bonus. |
| 20:12.36 | _neuron_ | KarlThePagan, minimap icons walking off etc |
| 20:12.41 | kenlyric | hmmm, do you have 100 spirit or something? |
| 20:12.47 | KarlThePagan | lol QFT |
| 20:12.49 | Trancer | 250 or so |
| 20:12.52 | KarlThePagan | at 200 spirit it's equal |
| 20:12.58 | KarlThePagan | any more you're nerfed |
| 20:12.59 | kenlyric | jesus is that buffed? |
| 20:13.03 | KarlThePagan | (when casting) |
| 20:13.05 | Codayus | Well, depends how much time you spend in FSR. |
| 20:13.09 | KarlThePagan | 250 is my spirit in dmg gear |
| 20:13.13 | Trancer | kenlyric: unbuffed |
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| 20:13.27 | Trancer | kenlyric: and I didn't bother with BWL, I just was lucky to get 3 trans bonus together from 2 BWL runs or so |
| 20:13.32 | kenlyric | before the nerf mine was 38 (or 33) mana/5sec |
| 20:13.34 | KarlThePagan | oic |
| 20:13.42 | Codayus | But especially in the new 5 mans, you spend so much time inside the FSR, the new t2 3-piece is pretty much a nerf for everyone... |
| 20:13.45 | kenlyric | Trancer: some sort of guild hopper? ;) |
| 20:13.52 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 20:13.53 | Trancer | kenlyric: nah, playing on both sides ;) |
| 20:13.58 | Trancer | farmed BWL to death on my gnome lock |
| 20:14.03 | Trancer | cba to do it again on my undead priest ;p |
| 20:14.04 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:14.11 | KarlThePagan | hey ck |
| 20:14.52 | KarlThePagan | I'm thinking either DeuceLog or a new mod would be the appropriate place to introduce carto notes for player death |
| 20:16.07 | xlvii | is there anything similar to !!!Warmup, that tells me which addon is the biggest memory killer? my load times have been up to a minutes. |
| 20:17.10 | tale | why not use Warmup? |
| 20:18.28 | xlvii | because i can't find it anywhere? |
| 20:18.29 | xlvii | ;p |
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| 20:19.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | warmup is on svn |
| 20:20.20 | KarlThePagan | kak wowace.com/files |
| 20:20.22 | KarlThePagan | aka |
| 20:20.47 | KarlThePagan | hey what's currently the best cooldown count mod? |
| 20:20.49 | xlvii | well, technically it's not on the 'svn' then ;'] |
| 20:21.01 | KarlThePagan | same data |
| 20:21.22 | nae|lap | KarlThePagan: OmniCC |
| 20:21.32 | xlvii | it's no where to be found in /trunk |
| 20:21.57 | KarlThePagan | yea I guess I'm not seeing OmniCC in WAU |
| 20:22.03 | KarlThePagan | I'll check /files |
| 20:22.06 | Diabolic-Destiny | nae|lap: agreed OMNICC |
| 20:22.18 | Diabolic-Destiny | KarlThePagan: OmniCC isn't an ace mod |
| 20:22.21 | Diabolic-Destiny | you wont find it on wowace |
| 20:22.23 | KarlThePagan | ic |
| 20:22.29 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 20:22.44 | Diabolic-Destiny | its one of the few good non ace mods |
| 20:23.20 | kenlyric | of course, it's a cooldown mod, so it's not sicence of the rockets. CooldowndCount works too. |
| 20:23.22 | xlvii | uhm.. |
| 20:23.38 | xlvii | !!!Warmup isn't own files.wowace.com either. |
| 20:23.45 | xlvii | Unless it's under a new name? |
| 20:23.56 | KarlThePagan | maybe it's just on wowinterface xlvii |
| 20:24.24 | KarlThePagan | kenlyric, oh I was shying away from cooldown count because i didn't see an update |
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| 20:26.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | i got a question regarding prat |
| 20:26.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 20:26.38 | sylvanaar | and i have a question about dewdrop |
| 20:26.58 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4939 = warmup |
| 20:27.04 | Diabolic-Destiny | how do u get the telltarget thing working? |
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| 20:27.23 | sylvanaar | If i use colors around my names they dont sort...is there a way to make them sort still |
| 20:27.43 | Diabolic-Destiny | for latest version of tekkub addons check > http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 20:27.48 | Diabolic-Destiny | it seems he removed warmup from AceSVN |
| 20:28.32 | sylvanaar | Diabolic-Destiny im not sure what problem you are having |
| 20:28.41 | Thrae | Warmup doesn't use Ace, so makes sense to me |
| 20:28.41 | sylvanaar | type /tt then space |
| 20:28.42 | Elkano | btw, with regard to cooldown addons: is it only for me or is OmniCC not working with AtkInv? |
| 20:28.48 | Elkano | ...ArkInv |
| 20:29.01 | Diabolic-Destiny | sylvanaar: yea but nothign happens |
| 20:29.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | how do i check to ensure all neccessary plugins/modules are in? |
| 20:29.18 | xlvii | diabolic-destiny, thanks for your help.. but it's not on his code.google.com site either. |
| 20:29.18 | Diabolic-Destiny | that are needed for /tt to work? |
| 20:29.35 | Diabolic-Destiny | xlvii: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4939 |
| 20:29.40 | sylvanaar | Diabolic-Destiny look for the telltarget module and make sure it on |
| 20:29.49 | kenlyric | KarlThePagan: Omni will definitely give you more options, and it's possible CC could break in the future. But right now, it works |
| 20:30.02 | kenlyric | I think we need MORE non ace mods in the SVN :) |
| 20:30.14 | kenlyric | <3 lazy |
| 20:30.36 | ckknight | gah, gotta go figure out my class schedule. |
| 20:30.45 | kenlyric | oh, poor guy. |
| 20:31.16 | xlvii | diabolic-destiny, thanks. |
| 20:31.51 | durcyn | sylvanaar: did prat's aceconsole config change? i'm getting no love from DeuceCommander for it. |
| 20:32.09 | sylvanaar | durcyn yes it did |
| 20:33.05 | Amadeo | Which Cartographer revision still works? |
| 20:33.14 | sylvanaar | durcyn - whats the point of deuce commander for a mod that has a fubar interface |
| 20:33.55 | KarlThePagan | i like it |
| 20:34.06 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: I actually use deuce commander so I don't need a fubar icon for addons that I rarely reconfigure |
| 20:34.22 | sylvanaar | oh ok |
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| 20:35.38 | sylvanaar | well, prat's menu is rather dynamic - and so there is a separate section of it thats used as the console menu |
| 20:35.56 | durcyn | sylvanaar: to get the 100000000 buttons off my fubar, mostly |
| 20:36.23 | durcyn | display width of 1900 pels and it's still crowded :o |
| 20:36.31 | Diabolic-Destiny | whats currently the best One bag addon out there, im using bagnon |
| 20:36.35 | Diabolic-Destiny | but it seems its lacking in some way |
| 20:36.51 | durcyn | Diabolic-Destiny: vBagnon worksforme, only missing the bank-from-alts iirc. |
| 20:37.03 | sylvanaar | well, i dont know what deuce commander does wrong |
| 20:37.03 | durcyn | Diabolic-Destiny: as far as wowace goes, there's OneBag/OneBank/etc |
| 20:37.06 | kenlyric | Diabolic-Destiny: OneBag/OneBank/OneView |
| 20:37.19 | durcyn | sylvanaar: nbd, i can just toggle on the icon, thanks. |
| 20:37.25 | sylvanaar | sure |
| 20:37.27 | kenlyric | or instead of oneview, Sanity for multiple bank views. |
| 20:37.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | hmm |
| 20:37.37 | xlvii | 37 seconds to load, FARK! |
| 20:37.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | iv never tried onebag |
| 20:37.40 | Diabolic-Destiny | may need to try it |
| 20:37.51 | Diabolic-Destiny | my load times nuts :S |
| 20:38.06 | Diabolic-Destiny | fubar is the killer tho |
| 20:38.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | so many extras.. |
| 20:39.18 | sylvanaar | i just found the fubar/tooltips/hide in combat option |
| 20:39.27 | sylvanaar | <3 ck or whoever put it in |
| 20:40.01 | Amadeo | I wonder if Draenei Paladins will be any good...Blood Elf just seems so much better |
| 20:40.22 | kenlyric | it's the gay. |
| 20:40.40 | kenlyric | draenei way too butch to be pallies |
| 20:41.44 | kenlyric | I haven't compared them closely, but I do see draenei being better pallies than humans and dwarves, at least. |
| 20:44.04 | robotusch | thing is, human/dorf racials are pretty much pvp racials for a pally, |
| 20:44.17 | durcyn | free self-heal isn't pvp-oriented? |
| 20:44.39 | kenlyric | no. |
| 20:44.41 | robotusch | well at least it has a function in pve as well, since you always have that spare heal |
| 20:44.43 | durcyn | unless you're saying that dwarf frost resist is for pvping against mages =P |
| 20:44.49 | kenlyric | it's "I need a heal" oriented, which is all the time. |
| 20:45.03 | robotusch | btw, does that go under holy spells? being Imp CS'd as a pally pretty much suck |
| 20:45.05 | kenlyric | durcyn: I think he's talking about stoneform and perception. |
| 20:45.16 | durcyn | kenlyric: i know. |
| 20:45.16 | robotusch | yeah that's what I meant |
| 20:45.16 | Amadeo | Draenei heal is worthless, imo |
| 20:45.24 | kenlyric | robotusch: I have no idea... haven't tried out a priest or pally draenei yet. |
| 20:45.29 | kenlyric | Amadeo, lol. |
| 20:45.34 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25792 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer: InstanceMaps: use blizz files for slave pens |
| 20:45.40 | robotusch | .. and what the heck is up with my text going on the right all of the sudden :/ |
| 20:46.02 | durcyn | i dunno though, especially with expansion the line between pvp skill and pve skill is blurring some |
| 20:46.13 | Amadeo | Draenei casts racial heal, lights appear on his forehead spelling, "DISPEL/PURGE ME NOW!" |
| 20:46.17 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25793 10Cartographer/Instances/TheSlavePens.blp: Cartographer: Maps: removed slave pens |
| 20:46.22 | deltron | lol |
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| 20:46.29 | kenlyric | Amadeo: oh, you're talking about pvp. meh. |
| 20:46.46 | thalie | it's nice for pve, amadeo |
| 20:46.50 | Amadeo | I doubt a racial HoT is going to make any difference in PvE |
| 20:46.52 | kenlyric | it's pretty much very nice for a warrior. |
| 20:46.58 | Amadeo | Horde doesn't have it, and they're not going to die in instances :P |
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| 20:47.21 | Diabolic-Destiny | i despise how paladins n shamans have switchd sides |
| 20:47.27 | sbu | Funkeh`: more plz!!! :p |
| 20:47.28 | deltron | lol |
| 20:47.34 | kenlyric | oh wow, people are still complaining about that? |
| 20:47.35 | Diabolic-Destiny | nice quick fix bliz |
| 20:47.38 | Funkeh` | sbu: patience! |
| 20:47.39 | Diabolic-Destiny | yes |
| 20:47.43 | Diabolic-Destiny | it ruined that whole thing |
| 20:47.43 | sbu | Funkeh`: hehe, np ;) |
| 20:47.48 | sbu | Funkeh`: nice work :) |
| 20:47.48 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 20:47.49 | deltron | I'm glad because now horde will finally excel in pve :) |
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| 20:47.52 | Funkeh` | thanks |
| 20:48.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | i had a shaman before |
| 20:48.12 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25794 10Cartographer/Scripts/pack.lua: Cartographer: script update |
| 20:48.13 | Diabolic-Destiny | and man he friggen sucked PVE |
| 20:48.17 | deltron | heh i'm a shaman |
| 20:48.22 | thalie | i'm levelling a draenei shaman, and i am ripping it up in PvE at the moment |
| 20:48.27 | deltron | I'm awesome PvE |
| 20:48.33 | thalie | compared to paladins, they are DPS machines |
| 20:48.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | wait till u lvl :S |
| 20:48.35 | kenlyric | even on my shaman, the free heal is nice because it's *FREE* |
| 20:48.58 | PogoTribal | I find the shaman experience mind numbing for the first 20 levels. |
| 20:49.04 | deltron | i'm sure I can outheal most paladins easily |
| 20:49.08 | ag` | How do you get the current reputation values? |
| 20:49.10 | Saroz | Catographer_Noteshare is sooooooo nice |
| 20:49.13 | deltron | PogoTribal: s/20/40/ |
| 20:49.13 | Diabolic-Destiny | shamans are fun at lvl 19 29 and 39 |
| 20:49.25 | ag` | GetWachedFactionInfo seems to include everything |
| 20:49.33 | PogoTribal | deltron: I doubt it, Paladins are more mana efficient. |
| 20:49.39 | kenlyric | zoning out... pvp discussion. |
| 20:49.56 | thalie | i liked the idea of the paladin... in practice... lol |
| 20:49.57 | xlvii | Putrid Bile is the worst debuff. |
| 20:50.13 | PogoTribal | deltron: I think you have bigger heals as a shaman, but you definitely can't heal as long. This is just from my experience in MC on both horde and alliance characters. |
| 20:50.16 | kergoth | my troll rogue <3 greater blessing of might |
| 20:50.30 | thalie | pally buffs are the only reason to roll a paladin |
| 20:51.08 | PogoTribal | Paladins are great to quest with. |
| 20:51.08 | kenlyric | thalie: which is why I cry every time healing gear goes to a paladin. |
| 20:51.08 | kenlyric | +healing doesn't make their buffs any stronger! |
| 20:51.08 | shieldb | PogoTribal, shaman and paladins have different efficiency advantages. Shaman are time efficient, pallys are mana efficient |
| 20:51.13 | kenlyric | 220 fishing.. gogogogo. |
| 20:51.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:51.30 | kenlyric | 225 and it can really start to suck. |
| 20:51.31 | kergoth | i hate that fishing skill up doenst vary with the area you fish in |
| 20:51.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | whats a good questlog thing for WoW |
| 20:51.40 | kergoth | just relying on pure quantity of fish taken in is lame |
| 20:51.46 | kenlyric | I like it because you don't have to move :) |
| 20:51.47 | Diabolic-Destiny | monkeyquest has an ugly default questlog appearance |
| 20:51.47 | PogoTribal | Not sure what you mean by time efficient vs. mana efficient, more mana efficiency kind of equates to a longer period of healing... as for points Healing per Second, shamans win, is that what you mean? |
| 20:51.48 | deltron | PogoTribal: PogoTribal chain heal is ftw :D I can also toss out a TON of heals |
| 20:51.54 | Diabolic-Destiny | Enhanced questlog is too big |
| 20:52.03 | Diabolic-Destiny | Uberquestlog is nice except doesnt include quest status in tooltip |
| 20:52.08 | shieldb | time efficient = heal a lot in a short period of time |
| 20:52.08 | thalie | chain heal jumps properly now, which is good |
| 20:52.09 | kergoth | i use monkeyquestlog iwth monkeyquest |
| 20:52.12 | kergoth | monkeyquestlog kicks ass |
| 20:52.24 | Diabolic-Destiny | does it open up wen u press "l" |
| 20:52.28 | PogoTribal | deltron: what did you mean by s/20/40? |
| 20:52.29 | Diabolic-Destiny | or do u need to bind a key to it? |
| 20:52.31 | shieldb | pallys can't dump large amounts of healing on one target, but they can heal forever |
| 20:52.44 | thalie | pogotribal : substitute 40 where he said 20 |
| 20:52.48 | kergoth | PogoTribal: not familiar with a regex search/replace? |
| 20:52.54 | kergoth | see sed/perl |
| 20:53.00 | shieldb | shaman heal larger amounts quickly but it's at the expense of mana |
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| 20:53.16 | PogoTribal | Sorry, I have no idea so... it kinda flew over my head. |
| 20:53.34 | PogoTribal | Is anyone here on Gorefiend? |
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| 20:53.53 | PogoTribal | I'm gonna tell everyone about a good mining/herbalism spot in Outlands but I don't want anyone taking the spot on Gorefiend :P |
| 20:53.59 | kenlyric | yeah, that's why I never bye the arguments saying other classes are better healers than priests. They may be better in one specific area, but it's at the expense of other areas. |
| 20:54.28 | xlvii | PogoTribal, tell me please! |
| 20:54.29 | shieldb | whereas 'main' healer classes (druids and priests) can pick between mana efficient heals and 'oh crap' time efficient ones |
| 20:54.29 | xlvii | ;D |
| 20:54.31 | PogoTribal | I dunno ken, I have a +600 healing priest, and a Druid in equivalent gear almost always hits top spot in the raids. |
| 20:54.52 | shieldb | PogoTribal, healing meters are relatively worthless, they don't tell you much |
| 20:54.57 | PogoTribal | By a big advantage too. This was as a disc/holy priest vs. a resto Druid. |
| 20:54.57 | kenlyric | pogo, that's either an awesome druid or.... |
| 20:55.05 | shieldb | there are some fights when meters can be real telling |
| 20:55.07 | PogoTribal | Well he's a damn good druid, but I'm also a damn good priest. |
| 20:55.19 | PogoTribal | shieldb: These are SWStats synced meters that measure effective healing. |
| 20:55.20 | Diabolic-Destiny | guys... how does monkeyquestlog work? |
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| 20:55.27 | shieldb | effective healing isn't a good measure of anything |
| 20:55.28 | Diabolic-Destiny | like i see the little traker on top |
| 20:55.36 | shieldb | other then who's heal landed first |
| 20:55.36 | Diabolic-Destiny | but when i press the quest log key i get the defualt one |
| 20:55.36 | kenlyric | well, maybe he dots all the time. Dots look better on the efficient healing meter :0 |
| 20:55.40 | shieldb | or trashmob healing maybe |
| 20:55.44 | NeoTron | effective healing in a raid can be as simple as someone healing people ressed after a wipe |
| 20:55.58 | kergoth | Diabolic-Destiny: it doesnt hook that keybinding, it has no browser of quests, it relies on monkeyquest for that |
| 20:56.01 | kergoth | Diabolic-Destiny: here, check out http://picasaweb.google.com/monkeymods/MonkeyMods/photo#4985218494768218130 |
| 20:56.02 | PogoTribal | SWStats measures ni combat. |
| 20:56.05 | kergoth | Diabolic-Destiny: you'll see what i mean |
| 20:56.06 | NeoTron | and effective healing, in a real situation, might be not to heal at all until needed |
| 20:56.07 | kenlyric | I run a class on how to cheat the healing meter. I learned from paladin. |
| 20:56.27 | NeoTron | healing metering is much less reliable/telling than damage meters in general |
| 20:56.34 | shieldb | if two healers toss a big 3k heal or something on one target and one lands before the other, you may end up with one healer with 2.7k effective healing and one with 0 effective healing |
| 20:56.48 | durcyn | my healing monitor is a mod called Casualty. it tells me when people die. |
| 20:56.52 | Diabolic-Destiny | iv used monkeyquest b4 just not this monkeyquestlog |
| 20:56.52 | PogoTribal | I understand, but we specifically set out to keep the raid topped off with health the entire time. We were both very mana efficient, but with swiftmend he was kicking my ass. |
| 20:56.52 | NeoTron | and you also can't overdamage a mob :P |
| 20:57.09 | NeoTron | swiftmend is situational |
| 20:57.17 | PogoTribal | shieldb: Yes... and the person who landed the heal first was the more effective healer. |
| 20:57.27 | NeoTron | PogoTribal: or the more lucky one |
| 20:57.30 | PogoTribal | He spotted the health deficit quickly. |
| 20:57.34 | PogoTribal | And cast a heal. |
| 20:57.40 | NeoTron | PogoTribal: with latency and 10-15 healers... |
| 20:57.41 | shieldb | not really |
| 20:57.51 | kenlyric | I haven't been able to try it out since the downranking nerf, but flash heal rank 1 was an awesome way to cheat the healing meter. |
| 20:57.55 | shieldb | fights like patchwerk you have everyone spamming heals on one target |
| 20:57.57 | PogoTribal | But if there's a real emergency that needs 3K healing, swiftmend will kick the crap out of my greater heal or shield+flash heal |
| 20:58.02 | NeoTron | typically flash healers get better mana efficiency becuase they overheal less |
| 20:58.10 | NeoTron | however they themself might cause other healers to overheal |
| 20:58.18 | NeoTron | so who's the better healer? |
| 20:58.21 | PogoTribal | Yeah Neo, they're called paladins lol |
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| 20:58.30 | kenlyric | NeoTron: espedcially with t1 3 piece bonus... 1.4 second cast means they get in under the pallies :) |
| 20:58.40 | PogoTribal | Flash healing sons of bitches. I always tell them not to heal if there's already a renew on that rogue/DPS war |
| 20:58.41 | NeoTron | druids have some oh-shit abilities that beats priests yes |
| 20:58.46 | NeoTron | they have better hot-abilities |
| 20:58.51 | Amadeo | Gotta love Druids, they have the best of everything now |
| 20:58.55 | Elkano | also crits can put you on overheal... especially druids with there large heal spell :/ |
| 20:58.56 | NeoTron | priests have a better consistent fast heal and better group healing |
| 20:59.15 | shieldb | PogoTribal, but if the pally heals while you have a renew or something on there, doesn't that make them the effective healers and your healing was overhealing according to meters? :P |
| 20:59.18 | PogoTribal | Neo: This isn't my sentiment specifically... many priests have noticed how Druids became better healers. |
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| 20:59.30 | PogoTribal | shieldb: By the meters, yes. |
| 20:59.38 | NeoTron | fights where a lot of people take damage and not just a few targets |
| 20:59.41 | kenlyric | druids are big healers and HoTs. Paladins are fast heals and Big heals. Priests are everything, also with sheild :) |
| 20:59.56 | NeoTron | to pick a lame example, vaelastrasz - priests are better there |
| 21:00.01 | PogoTribal | Oh yes, the awesome herb/mining spot. |
| 21:00.05 | PogoTribal | WHen you enter the dark portal. |
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| 21:00.16 | Amadeo | Druids walk all over Priests for healing in PvP |
| 21:00.23 | PogoTribal | Explore the regions to the north, south, and east of it. |
| 21:00.32 | kenlyric | they do? |
| 21:00.38 | Thrae | Good Druid >>>> Sucky Priest. Good Priest >>>> Sucky Druid. The entire argument is moot, since most people cannot properly gauge how good a healer is, not to mention how good THEY are. |
| 21:00.40 | Amadeo | Good Druids do |
| 21:00.45 | PogoTribal | You'll find herbs and mines, and nobody ever goes there because they immediately take the flight path to HH/TM. |
| 21:00.58 | Amadeo | Priests die fast, and they can't really do anything about it |
| 21:01.04 | Amadeo | Druids can just run away and heal again |
| 21:01.06 | NeoTron | heh |
| 21:01.10 | kergoth | PogoTribal: thats a good idea :) |
| 21:01.11 | NeoTron | depends on the priest |
| 21:01.12 | kenlyric | Thrae: yes, but by some value of good, a priest is going to be useful in more situations than a druid. |
| 21:01.26 | Amadeo | NeoTron: Not really |
| 21:01.35 | Thrae | kenlyric: Not really...it's all about playstyles. |
| 21:01.36 | NeoTron | it does |
| 21:01.37 | kenlyric | unless you need a tank. |
| 21:01.41 | Amadeo | If it depends on anything, it depends on who's killing you :P |
| 21:01.51 | Amadeo | but the Druid can always get away |
| 21:01.54 | PogoTribal | I'm thinking that people just don't think about finding herbs and mines in that area because when they got the game, they just flew right away and now they do that all the time, or they just hearth to Outlands. |
| 21:02.02 | NeoTron | I've done a WSG where I entertained 4 the opposing team members for a significant period of time just healing myself |
| 21:02.05 | Thrae | kenlyric: If you're talking about "cookie-cutter" ways to do instances, then yeah, a Priest would probably be more useful since they heal in a more traditional fashion |
| 21:02.14 | NeoTron | they weren't great of course, but I also didn't die in 2 seconds |
| 21:02.16 | Trancer | pain supression is quite fun in WSG :p |
| 21:02.17 | kenlyric | NeoTron: isn't that a priest's job in WSG? |
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| 21:02.19 | kenlyric | distraction. |
| 21:02.21 | Trancer | pisses off people pretty pretty bad :p |
| 21:02.31 | Trancer | further it's a crap talent -.- |
| 21:02.45 | PogoTribal | So yeah there's about 5-8 nodes of herbs/mines in that area around the portal, and you can even explore pretty close to the pit for some stuff too. BUT, there is an in-combat bug that you might get hit with. |
| 21:02.46 | kenlyric | Thrae, they heal in a more varied fashion. They have more options. |
| 21:03.08 | NeoTron | see a druid would often complain taht they have no flash heal |
| 21:03.09 | kenlyric | more healing options, that is. |
| 21:03.20 | kenlyric | druid and shaman and palllies make up for it by having other options too. |
| 21:03.20 | NeoTron | while a priest moans that druids are better healers with lots of hots |
| 21:03.28 | NeoTron | each forgetting their own strength and how they complement eachother |
| 21:03.29 | PogoTribal | In a 5-man, priests still kick ass. |
| 21:03.35 | PogoTribal | Last night we overpulled in blood furnace. |
| 21:03.35 | NeoTron | it's not a fight on who's the better healer |
| 21:03.40 | kenlyric | NeoTron... then again, druids don't have Fade ;) |
| 21:03.45 | PogoTribal | The druid died first without fade. |
| 21:03.50 | NeoTron | you want both in raids and in 5-mans having one of each helps more than having two of the same |
| 21:04.08 | NeoTron | and never ever underestimate fade and inner fire |
| 21:04.13 | Thrae | kenlyric: But Druids also have very important options the Priests do not. And with the new BC instances, this is really all moot there, since endgame isn't all about raiding anymore. |
| 21:04.18 | kenlyric | a five man with two priests? that would rock! ;) |
| 21:04.26 | NeoTron | if one is shadow ;-) |
| 21:04.32 | kenlyric | well, two shadow priests... or maybe 5! |
| 21:04.34 | NeoTron | two holy priests would probably be overkill |
| 21:04.38 | Thrae | A five man with two Feral Druids rocks more :D |
| 21:04.38 | NeoTron | and they can't do much else but heal |
| 21:04.40 | kenlyric | Cross the streams! |
| 21:04.47 | PogoTribal | So my T1 guildy tank was on 3 adepts tanking by himself, the rogue died a while ago with the druid, after my inner focus + prayer of healing saved them for about 20 more seconds of DPS. |
| 21:05.03 | kenlyric | inner focus really needs to make the spell instant cast. |
| 21:05.05 | PogoTribal | So I feared when I had to, and my regen was good enough to keep the tank alive. |
| 21:05.07 | kenlyric | doesn't everyone agree? :) |
| 21:05.24 | kergoth | booored |
| 21:05.30 | kergoth | nothing to do at wrok but wait and see if testers fine bugs |
| 21:05.31 | kergoth | find |
| 21:05.34 | NeoTron | paladins aer great as they don't die |
| 21:05.36 | PogoTribal | On a side note, why the fuck is SW:P being nerfed? |
| 21:05.39 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Declaring cool saves by your Priest doesn't say anything about your class...I could say the same with my Druid |
| 21:05.40 | Mikma | kergoth: play some |
| 21:05.43 | NeoTron | plate and reduce threat heals that are really mana efficient |
| 21:05.46 | kergoth | no laptop |
| 21:05.52 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: because it does a shitton of damage? |
| 21:05.55 | NeoTron | but they have no hots or shield/ns/etc |
| 21:06.03 | kergoth | at work, government work on an army contract, they do a LOT of filtering |
| 21:06.09 | PogoTribal | Thrae: The lack of fade, shield, and fear made that situation nearly impossibly for a druid to handle. |
| 21:06.11 | vhaarr | Kemayo: Nevermind, I found the code. |
| 21:06.14 | kergoth | looks like they even block outbound vnc, i cant connect to my house with it |
| 21:06.16 | kenlyric | well, they have a shield... it's jsut not one you want to use on a tank :) |
| 21:06.29 | NeoTron | and it's only physical damage too |
| 21:06.37 | NeoTron | I mean the point is all classes are good |
| 21:06.44 | Thrae | NeoTron: Regrowth having a 18% mana reduction and Barkskin giving no cooldown delay is a BIG buff |
| 21:06.46 | PogoTribal | NeoTron: Paladin at that point instead of a priest would have been a wipe. |
| 21:06.48 | NeoTron | and in most of the 5-mans now having two healers is good. just doesn't matter much which two |
| 21:07.15 | PogoTribal | There's no way he could have healed the 4 people being slaughtered quickly enough for them to keep DPSing until the situation was more manageable. |
| 21:07.23 | NeoTron | I've plaeyd all healing classes to 60 and raided with three |
| 21:07.28 | PogoTribal | ken: Maybe it's a shitton of damage for shadow priests. |
| 21:07.30 | NeoTron | now I've put them aside and am playing my warlock |
| 21:07.32 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Not really. When a Druid does Barkskin + Tranquility now, we do insane amounts of healing. The new Tranquility is just insane. |
| 21:07.37 | PogoTribal | But 1200 damage isn't all that much. |
| 21:07.50 | NeoTron | but really all healers do their job if they are skilled. class differences are there but it doesn't make one class better than another |
| 21:07.52 | kenlyric | well, it's still 1200 damage. |
| 21:07.55 | NeoTron | except shamans... ;-) |
| 21:08.04 | kenlyric | We're just losing 9% of bonus damage coefficient, right? |
| 21:08.11 | PogoTribal | Thrae: Ok, but where's your fade when the tank needs time to get the aggro from that massive healing you just did? |
| 21:08.19 | Thrae | PogoTribal: I've kept groups alive where they'd been swarmed by waves and waves of Elites + Non-Elites while AoE'ing with the new Tranquility |
| 21:08.31 | NeoTron | there's a talent that makes tranq threat mostly non-existent |
| 21:08.55 | PogoTribal | Inner Focus needs to remove threat from your next heal, that would be nice. |
| 21:09.07 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Tranquility is a channeled spell, while I think Prayer of Healing is not? |
| 21:09.18 | kenlyric | I have no problem with druids thinking they are the best healing class. I have a problem with priests who think druids are the best healing class. that's all my comments were trying to address :) |
| 21:09.27 | PogoTribal | Right... I can't imagine you can do Tranq without speccing for it. |
| 21:09.42 | PogoTribal | Without getting attacked quickly, and ending the Tranq. |
| 21:09.49 | PogoTribal | But I Don't have a 60 druid so, I don't really know. |
| 21:10.01 | Thrae | That means our threat assesment from Tranquility is less...not to mention we can throw a Rejuv, go Bear, Enrage, and put up Frenzied Regen while the tank takes off aggro |
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| 21:10.51 | Tovort | hmm on my server, allmost no druid is resto right now. |
| 21:10.52 | Tovort | if you're looking for a healer, you're looking for a priest. On the other hand I was on the most astonishing group yesterday: http://www.circulus-vitiosus.org/tovort/druidpower.jpg |
| 21:11.07 | PogoTribal | kenlyric: I think so |
| 21:11.08 | kenlyric | Tovort: that's ok, no priests are holy. |
| 21:11.09 | Thrae | kenlyric: Well I never said that. I agreed Priests are more versatile healers, but I disagree either Priest or Druid is "best overall". When it comes down to it, it's about the experience and skill of all players involved. If everyone is decent, it really shouldn't matter. Not unless an instance event is very specifically geared for one over the other, and that's rare. |
| 21:11.34 | Thrae | Bah, Feral / Balance Druids can heal fine :D (I like Feral > Balance for healing) |
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| 21:11.36 | PogoTribal | kenlyric: But it's still a shitty nerf. |
| 21:11.40 | kenlyric | I see some disc priests here and there, but honestly, why would you have ligthwell while levelling up. |
| 21:12.00 | Thrae | Just like Shadow Priests can heal fine, all with the right gear |
| 21:12.01 | PogoTribal | I'm liking my build a little more. |
| 21:12.05 | kenlyric | unless all you do is grind instances, and even then, you're better off adding more damage to get through it quiccker. |
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| 21:12.31 | Tovort | kenlyric: well the tree of life ain't groovy for leveling either :D |
| 21:12.33 | kergoth | i wonder how the leveling rate is going mostly instances vs mostly quests |
| 21:12.39 | PogoTribal | I depend on two damage trinkets and power infusion to mind flay the shit out of things. |
| 21:12.41 | Thrae | The only time you need to go specifically for the healing spec is when you're underleveled or 40-man raids short on healers |
| 21:12.47 | vhaarr | ~seen wobin |
| 21:12.53 | purl | wobin <i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 30m 11s ago, saying: 'In that they fixed the issue'. |
| 21:13.14 | Thrae | I can main-heal Strat easy at Level 57 as a Feral Druid |
| 21:13.40 | Thrae | Strat / SH |
| 21:13.44 | Tovort | Thrae: I find some of the instances in BC rather unbalanced - trash groups are crap, priest is yawning all the time - but the bosses, different story altogether |
| 21:13.46 | kenlyric | Thrae, I had this idea where I'd be my normal 23/28 healing spec for TBC, then I came to my senses and realized fi I can't heal a five man in shadow spec, I don't really need to play this game. |
| 21:14.18 | Thrae | kenlyric: Exactly. |
| 21:14.27 | kenlyric | though damn, these guys do hit a lot harder than I expected. |
| 21:14.32 | PogoTribal | If you're the main healer, you really do need +healing gear for the boss fights. |
| 21:14.39 | PogoTribal | Depending on how good your tank is. |
| 21:14.39 | Thrae | Tovort: Well that's because all MMORPGs are designed around "learning the bosses". It'll get easier as we learn the strategies. |
| 21:14.40 | kenlyric | my +healing has gone up 401 since tuesday, so t hat helps. |
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| 21:15.00 | kenlyric | it was +9 when I zoned into outlands :) |
| 21:15.01 | PogoTribal | A Tier1 tank in BF/HR does very well. |
| 21:15.04 | Antiarc|Work | I ran the mana tombs yesterday. The warriors in there hit like a ton of bricks. |
| 21:15.06 | Tovort | Thrae: They just deal damage like crazy compared to the trash |
| 21:15.09 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Yeah, my Feral Druid is stacking mostly +Healing, and has Nurturing Instinct for a little more boost |
| 21:15.21 | PogoTribal | How the hell did you get +400 healing already? |
| 21:15.28 | PogoTribal | I've only found about +200 |
| 21:15.34 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: because I only had 9? :) |
| 21:15.40 | Thrae | Tovort: Probably why Regrowth was changed...it's a Druid's version of "Flash Heal" |
| 21:15.41 | PogoTribal | With Holy Healing Band, Blood Surgeon's MItts |
| 21:15.42 | kenlyric | everything was an upgrade. |
| 21:15.52 | PogoTribal | Although I need that beautiful white robe that drops in BF. |
| 21:15.53 | kenlyric | I go the mace from the druids. |
| 21:15.56 | Thrae | PogoTribal: My Level 57 Druid has +150, what's your level? |
| 21:15.59 | kenlyric | +105 right there. |
| 21:16.09 | PogoTribal | Thrae: 61 now |
| 21:16.17 | Tovort | Lifebloom is nice as well - ticking every second |
| 21:16.27 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: I'm level 63, and done with zangarmarsh... lots of ug in there. |
| 21:16.30 | PogoTribal | I was in 5/8 Prophecy entering Outlands, and I "just" replaced the belt and gloves yesterday. |
| 21:16.34 | Thrae | PogoTribal: You need to Thottbot out your gear as I do ;) |
| 21:16.50 | kergoth | kenlyric: hehe, look at the glowcap price history over the past 14 days on my realm - http://tinyurl.com/27owye |
| 21:16.52 | Thrae | Even BRD has some nice +Healing items |
| 21:17.11 | Thrae | For my level, anyway. I need to do a few more Emporer runs while I instance grind... |
| 21:17.14 | PogoTribal | Well... there's only two instances in Hellfire and I know BF has the healing gear. |
| 21:17.16 | Thrae | Get that damn staff of Wisdom |
| 21:17.30 | Amadeo | how accurate is wowecon? |
| 21:17.33 | kenlyric | so, it dropped, but not by that much. Awesome |
| 21:17.34 | PogoTribal | Thrae: Yeah BRD is nice, the Mantle off Roccor is goo dhealing. |
| 21:17.37 | Amadeo | do they only get data from wowecon users? |
| 21:17.49 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Mmm haven't gotten the Mantle yet =/ |
| 21:17.52 | Tovort | I need that mace from The Slave Pens |
| 21:17.53 | PogoTribal | But I never wanted to break my 5/8 Prophecy while disc/holy because my holy crit was a decent 15% on raids. |
| 21:18.10 | Thrae | PogoTribal: I'm also thinking of farming the Golem guy for Second Wind...seems like it'll be good for a while |
| 21:18.17 | Amadeo | I just never imagined that many people used it, so I never thought the numbers would be accurate |
| 21:18.18 | PogoTribal | Thrae: He's an easily farmable mob, and I still wear the mantle. |
| 21:18.33 | Thrae | PogoTribal: SecondWind == ~+40 to Healing, Use: 900 mana over 12 seconds |
| 21:18.45 | PogoTribal | Thrae: Mmm. trinkets are tough, but you get one in Outlands which goes well with BLessed Prayer Beads. |
| 21:18.47 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Trinket |
| 21:18.57 | PogoTribal | Thrae: You DO have your prayer beads, right? |
| 21:18.59 | Tovort | I wouldn't even bother going for second wind |
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| 21:19.12 | Tovort | just grind to 58 and hit the outlands |
| 21:19.13 | rpowers | does anyone know how hard it would be to hack up agUF's experience bar to display progress to 5200g? |
| 21:19.13 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: I kept mine this time around. |
| 21:19.16 | Amadeo | brb |
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| 21:19.18 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Level 57 |
| 21:19.20 | rpowers | this non-epic mount is just too slow :( |
| 21:19.33 | PogoTribal | Thrae: Prayer Beads are a priest quest at level 50. |
| 21:19.34 | kenlyric | and there are two trinkets in outlands, there's one ZM that has an equip AND a use function. |
| 21:20.03 | Thrae | PogoTribal I thought you were clear I play a Druid :D |
| 21:20.04 | PogoTribal | I'm thinking of the trink to kill Overlord. |
| 21:20.13 | PogoTribal | Oh, sorry man, right. |
| 21:20.18 | kenlyric | best part about prayer beads is they stack, unlike all the other trinkets. |
| 21:20.18 | Tovort | rpowers: I'd rather hack fuxpfu (?) - a lot easier, and looks nicer |
| 21:20.19 | PogoTribal | We were uhh, talking about that before lol |
| 21:20.45 | PogoTribal | Although for instances I still use my Darkmoon Card |
| 21:20.59 | PogoTribal | And Zandalarian Hero Charm. |
| 21:20.59 | kenlyric | I found the dragon a lot easier if I popped the both and slamed the tank with heals after shield wall went away. |
| 21:21.10 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: ewww, darkmoon card. |
| 21:21.18 | rpowers | Tovort, i don't need a fancy display, but now that i am 70, i don't have experience. i know i can turn it into a rep bar, but i want a gold bar :) |
| 21:21.19 | Tovort | rpowers: Third bar is just copy & paste, update function should be copy & paste from fubar moneyfu at worst |
| 21:21.24 | PogoTribal | I like my Darkmoon Card. |
| 21:21.28 | Thrae | PogoTribal: It's the Ungoro quest you get the Trinket from, right? |
| 21:21.32 | PogoTribal | I never drink in instances until I have to buff. |
| 21:21.41 | Tovort | well than try to hook into fubar_moneyfu |
| 21:21.50 | rpowers | Tovort, i haven't used fuxpfu |
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| 21:22.05 | PogoTribal | Because it procs and 100% mana regen ticks for a good amount of mana. |
| 21:22.09 | kenlyric | I can never get the damn thing to proc. I'd rather have a more steady, reliable mana generator. |
| 21:22.34 | Saroz | Need cartographer module to saves location of quest mobs |
| 21:22.37 | Thrae | Hmm, wonder if the Darkmoon card would regenerate mana while in forms |
| 21:22.38 | PogoTribal | Thrae: I'm not sure what you mean, I don't know what Druids get as a class quest reward. |
| 21:22.48 | Thrae | PogoTribal: We get armour or a staff |
| 21:22.48 | PogoTribal | Thrae: It's on successful spellcast. |
| 21:22.58 | PogoTribal | Thrae: So... you could use it as a moonkin. |
| 21:22.59 | Thrae | Ahhh, that's usuable for us then |
| 21:23.06 | PogoTribal | Or healer. |
| 21:23.18 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Even Feral Druids need to cast spells ;) |
| 21:23.23 | kergoth | Saroz: should make fubar_quests do that or something, since it already knows what mobs are quest mobs |
| 21:23.32 | Saroz | nah |
| 21:23.34 | Thrae | PogoTribal: To heal....ourselves :D |
| 21:23.37 | Saroz | dont want to use questfu |
| 21:23.45 | PogoTribal | kenlyric: Yeah it's not reliable at all, but my +healing gear means I pretty much never need to use trinkets to increase my heals in 5-mans. Unless shit hits the fan, and then a good Proc from the card is great anyways. |
| 21:23.49 | shieldb | I'm not so sure I'd want questmobs tracked on top of questgivers |
| 21:24.00 | Saroz | module |
| 21:24.02 | Saroz | you decide |
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| 21:24.07 | PogoTribal | Thrae: Ahh... is it only feral specs that can rejuv themselves in cat/bear? |
| 21:24.08 | shieldb | it sort of defeats the purpose of having notes on my map if there aren't many areas that don't have notes on them :P |
| 21:24.13 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: yeah. I need to play around with how much I can downrank to increase my efficiency. |
| 21:24.23 | kergoth | my map is full of enough notes, already have trouble finding shit half the time |
| 21:24.28 | PogoTribal | ken what's your actual +healing now? |
| 21:24.30 | kenlyric | I rerolled right before 2.0 came out, so I have no experience with it. |
| 21:24.32 | Thrae | Which reminds me, the +Healing Trinket for Jewelcrafting sucks...a +150 Healing buff at Level 70? |
| 21:24.34 | kenlyric | +403 |
| 21:24.35 | kergoth | almost need a quick minimal filtering bar on the bottom of the cart map |
| 21:24.40 | Thrae | Note that's a BUFF, but all the time |
| 21:24.59 | Thrae | PogoTribal: No, all Druids get Frenzied Regeneration if you're talking about that... |
| 21:25.01 | Tovort | rpowers: give me a few minutes, I'll take a look at aguf |
| 21:25.10 | PogoTribal | +403 is a good amount. Instead of throwing a flash heal or renew on someone that is at -900 health, try using a Rank 3 regular Heal. |
| 21:25.17 | PogoTribal | That's what I downrank to when things aren't hectic. |
| 21:25.28 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Feral Druids just have Furor and better Rage generation |
| 21:25.31 | PogoTribal | Also, Ranks 2, 5, and 7 of Greater Heal should be used intermittently. |
| 21:25.33 | kenlyric | the nerf to that spell doesn't hurt it as much? |
| 21:25.54 | kergoth | "If desired, Wowecon will send you an emailed report within minutes when an item is seen for sale on your server at a given price. Never miss a deal even when you aren't logged in!" hmm, that makes it sound like they have sources of info other than uploaded data from users |
| 21:25.54 | PogoTribal | It was nerfed, but the mana efficiency is still there. |
| 21:26.10 | PogoTribal | The nerf didn't destroy downranking, as priests made it sound when it was first announced. |
| 21:26.31 | Thrae | SW:P Might be getting nerf because unskilled Shadow Priests can still eat people pretty well |
| 21:26.35 | thalie | no, but it's definitely not as cool as it was pogo :) |
| 21:26.37 | PogoTribal | I also downrank renew for those light-damage fights, like technicians in BF (if you're groups not retarded and avoids the mines) |
| 21:26.53 | PogoTribal | thalie: It was OP before, no question about it. |
| 21:27.17 | PogoTribal | Indefinite healing through downranking broke the game. 4-man Onyxia anyone? |
| 21:27.35 | kenlyric | but it was so lazy! |
| 21:27.53 | rpowers | Tovort, looks like I might be able to re-write the UpdateXP function call and change the events that trigger this |
| 21:27.57 | PogoTribal | SW:P is absolutely essential for non-shadow priests. That's why I'm pissed. |
| 21:28.06 | PogoTribal | They're only thinking about shadow priests. |
| 21:28.27 | thalie | if they wanted to smack shadow priests they should have gone after the mindflay co-ef |
| 21:28.32 | PogoTribal | Fine, nerf shadow priests, I don't give a shit, but don't near my heavy Disc build with 11 in shadow, only enough for spirit tap and mind flay. |
| 21:28.33 | Tovort | rpowers: Yes I would replace the reputation part - that's 95% of what you want |
| 21:28.40 | kergoth | bleh |
| 21:28.45 | PogoTribal | thalie: No, they should just nerf shadow weaving. |
| 21:28.49 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Yeah, Shadow Priests could still shield themselves and others for insane amounts of survivability. The problem is that it doesn't take much in Shadow to seriously buff up your spells. I think instead of just nerfing spells (quick fix), they should redo the Priest talent trees a bit. |
| 21:28.55 | rpowers | Tovort, i thought vanilla wow handled swapping rep/xp bars |
| 21:29.10 | kenlyric | woo, 225 fishing. |
| 21:29.18 | PogoTribal | Thrae: I wouldn't call the shields insane amounts of survivability. |
| 21:29.26 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Just reduce Shadow and Healing by ~20%, then increase Shadow damage gained from Shadow Tree by +20% and healing from Holy by 20% |
| 21:29.44 | Thrae | PogoTribal: Well, combined with a Priest's natural ability to heal. Vs most classes and their specs |
| 21:29.56 | PogoTribal | Thrae: A level 60 rogue in Outlands greens rips through my shields in two sinister strikes and an eviscerate. |
| 21:30.03 | kenlyric | Thrae, that's what it's already like. |
| 21:30.16 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: why does it take them so long? do they suck? |
| 21:30.35 | kenlyric | jesus, I've had rogues plow through my *living* in that amount of time. |
| 21:30.36 | Thrae | kenlyric: Further specialize the trees :D |
| 21:30.38 | PogoTribal | Actually, two sinister strikes is all it should take. |
| 21:31.06 | PogoTribal | And most rogues are well geared, one sinister strike crit will take down a shield. |
| 21:31.08 | kenlyric | Thrae, I'd go for a holyform, you bet I would. |
| 21:31.16 | Thrae | Full Holy or Holy/Disc should suck for DPS |
| 21:31.30 | thalie | holyform would be a "kill or CC me first" marker in PvP |
| 21:31.34 | kenlyric | it does suck for dps. |
| 21:31.40 | PogoTribal | Disc needs more DPS talents. |
| 21:31.42 | Thrae | kenlyric: Higher then a Resto Druid |
| 21:31.47 | kenlyric | thalie: lalalalala. |
| 21:32.04 | PogoTribal | thalie: That's what my big ass epic staff is for. |
| 21:32.08 | thalie | kenlyric: but it'd look cool, right? |
| 21:32.15 | thalie | meh, i use the GM mageblade |
| 21:32.24 | PogoTribal | I have a PvP set where I replaced Benediction with that green +damage quest reward from Hellfire. |
| 21:32.30 | kenlyric | your big ass epic staff is going away. |
| 21:32.33 | thalie | or i did, before i rerolled |
| 21:32.54 | PogoTribal | I have +30 spell damage on my Benediction... it's not going anywhere. |
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| 21:33.27 | PogoTribal | Especially with +healing. Right now, the best +healing combo is still the Cenarion CIrcle exalted mace with GM offhand. |
| 21:33.42 | PogoTribal | I'm not sure until what level though. |
| 21:33.45 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:33.49 | deltron | heh I got that 1h mace from blood furnace for healing |
| 21:33.52 | PogoTribal | The quest rewards and BoE greens sure as hell aren't replacing them. |
| 21:33.55 | ckknight | blast, don't have my headphones |
| 21:33.56 | deltron | replaced my fang of venoxis |
| 21:34.03 | rpowers | any other 70's in here? |
| 21:34.12 | kergoth | deltron: nice |
| 21:34.15 | PogoTribal | For people without Benediction, or Paladins/Druids, there is that BF mace |
| 21:34.18 | PogoTribal | Yeah Deltron |
| 21:34.31 | deltron | kergoth: how's the new server? |
| 21:34.32 | Azurewrath | rpowers: jup |
| 21:34.48 | kenlyric | the CE mace along witha good offhand is better than benediction for healing. |
| 21:34.57 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: ping |
| 21:34.57 | kergoth | deltron: its not bad, nice not having lag or queues or anything, less busy.. cant say i'm too happy about seventh column coming over though :P |
| 21:35.00 | PogoTribal | CE? |
| 21:35.02 | kenlyric | I need to find a good offhand, of course :) |
| 21:35.07 | kenlyric | cenarian expedition. |
| 21:35.11 | kenlyric | and you only need honored to buy it. |
| 21:35.12 | deltron | kergoth: lol :) no comment |
| 21:35.17 | PogoTribal | Finding a good +healing offhand without grinding PvP is impossible. |
| 21:35.25 | deltron | kergoth: they're gonna be the #1 horde guild there! |
| 21:35.35 | rpowers | Azurewrath, do you think if enough people complain they will give the non-epic flyer a respectable move speed on the ground? |
| 21:35.36 | kenlyric | my friend founda +33 healing and some spirit and into off a boe green in hellfire. |
| 21:35.40 | kergoth | deltron: did run into some people i knew though. happened upon buttermilk questing in hellfire |
| 21:35.45 | PogoTribal | I don't think that CE honored mace is better... I don't' even recall there being an honored mace. |
| 21:35.50 | deltron | oh she switched? :( |
| 21:35.52 | deltron | drats |
| 21:35.54 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:36.07 | Azurewrath | rpowers: why should they? I'm fine with my swift red Windrider ;) |
| 21:36.14 | deltron | I guess new account creation is disabled |
| 21:36.18 | kergoth | it is |
| 21:36.19 | deltron | I should transfer a trash toon over |
| 21:36.23 | kergoth | i had to create a belf on suramar and transfer him |
| 21:36.29 | PogoTribal | YOu know Benediction has +106 healing right? You're not beating that without an epic offhand, of which there are no good drops and you have to grind the PvP honor. |
| 21:36.30 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25836 |
| 21:36.38 | kenlyric | like I said, you'd need a decent offhand. |
| 21:36.45 | kenlyric | uh, the mace has +105 |
| 21:36.52 | deltron | kergoth: ok, triode incoming then |
| 21:36.58 | nevcairiel | PogoTribal: well there were some good lvl 60 raid epics |
| 21:36.59 | kenlyric | it's just short on other stats, and mana regen. |
| 21:36.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:37.00 | kergoth | nice name |
| 21:37.11 | PogoTribal | Hmm... I don't recall seeing that mace. |
| 21:37.15 | kergoth | kenlyric: damn, nice mace |
| 21:37.29 | deltron | I prefer to have damage and healing |
| 21:37.36 | kergoth | only honored required eh |
| 21:37.38 | deltron | but I'm a shaman :) |
| 21:37.41 | Tovort | rpowers: it does, and aguf doesn't replace that. It's just that the loop for reputation has got everything you want. http://ace.pastey.net/5388 |
| 21:37.45 | PogoTribal | But it has no spirit and less int than Benediction, again you need a good offhand. |
| 21:37.47 | kenlyric | well, I have both. |
| 21:37.51 | Tovort | (100% drycode :D) |
| 21:37.54 | rpowers | Azurewrath, >:( |
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| 21:38.07 | kergoth | i need an addon to code, any ideas? |
| 21:38.18 | PogoTribal | kenlyric: You can just buy that at honored? |
| 21:38.24 | kergoth | and no, i dont want to write a damage meter or threat meter |
| 21:38.25 | kenlyric | yup. |
| 21:38.25 | PogoTribal | How I didn't see that I have no idea. |
| 21:38.28 | deltron | kergoth: crap gatherer that tracks what the heck items go to what quest :P |
| 21:38.31 | Tovort | rpowers: so now turning on faction tracking would enable money-tracking instead |
| 21:38.34 | kenlyric | 30g or abouts. |
| 21:38.38 | rpowers | Tovort, for any faction? |
| 21:38.49 | ckknight | kergoth: I was thinking about working on a shared database system, probably in library-form. Interested in something like that? |
| 21:39.03 | Tovort | rpowers: faction doesn't matter, just that's enabled |
| 21:39.08 | PogoTribal | Ahh well, Benediction is still unreplaced right now for me, and for grinding it's also good in Anathema, I still love it :) |
| 21:39.21 | kergoth | deltron: monkeyquest/questfu track items which are goals of quests, but i presume you want items you got for quests, to be used to accomplish them? thatd be nice for when you abandon old quests and have shit occupying your inventory |
| 21:39.34 | kergoth | ckknight: that sounds promising |
| 21:39.36 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:39.50 | kenlyric | I have http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25985 that I use everyday, for damage, but I also have a spell damage daggger that has better damage but crappy stats, so If I can find a good stat off hand, it'll be killer for both. |
| 21:40.25 | deltron | kergoth: yeah something like that, I have so much quest stuff in my bags from freaking outland quests now :P |
| 21:40.25 | Tovort | rpowers: you could replace the "else" part instead |
| 21:40.25 | PogoTribal | Did they buff Cenarion Circle rewards for TBC? |
| 21:40.25 | Tovort | rpowers (and would retain factiontracking) |
| 21:40.26 | kenlyric | kergoth, technically, old shit shouldn't stay around, though of course some if it still does. |
| 21:40.28 | kergoth | yea |
| 21:40.29 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: nothat I've heard of. |
| 21:40.30 | rpowers | Tovort, thanks a ton :) |
| 21:40.34 | kergoth | i wanted an addon to track that shit a long time ago |
| 21:40.36 | PogoTribal | They need to buff older drops and rep rewards. |
| 21:40.38 | kenlyric | but I don't have any CC rep, so I didn't pay attention. |
| 21:40.52 | kenlyric | meh... old junk... meh. |
| 21:41.09 | PogoTribal | Well you said Cenarion Expedition, your mean Cenarion Circle/Cenarion Hold |
| 21:41.12 | rpowers | Tovort, do the events that trigger updatexp need to be changed as well? |
| 21:41.13 | Tovort | rpowers: np, hope it works |
| 21:41.15 | kergoth | well, watching for looted items when you accept a quest is easy, thats part of it.. course theres items associated with a quest that when used generate other item(s) for that quest.. |
| 21:41.15 | Barbanus | holy fuck, http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=27937 |
| 21:41.16 | OvrLrd-Q | probably wont PogoTribal, if they did what incentive would you have to buy TBC |
| 21:41.19 | ckknight | kergoth: it also seems hella complicated, as there is no one authorized source and such |
| 21:41.19 | kergoth | that could get messy |
| 21:41.23 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: no, I said Cenarian expedition. |
| 21:41.32 | kenlyric | it's a whole other faction. |
| 21:41.34 | kergoth | yea, dealing with trust in an environment like wow is messy |
| 21:41.38 | deltron | kergoth: work on a damagemeters app that doesn't suck |
| 21:41.43 | kergoth | almost need a signing system |
| 21:41.46 | Tovort | rpowers: yes you habe to register "Player_Money" as well - that's the second function |
| 21:41.59 | PogoTribal | OvrLrd: Well, the only incentive would be to run Scholo/Strat/AQ20/ZG still. |
| 21:42.10 | PogoTribal | Those places are empty. |
| 21:42.22 | rpowers | Tovort, oh, i didn't see that part at the bottom of the pastey |
| 21:42.23 | OvrLrd-Q | Well if you didn't buy TBC that's all you'll be runnin anyways so |
| 21:42.23 | Tovort | rpowers: oh i forgot unregister - bad me... |
| 21:42.24 | kenlyric | meh, let it die. |
| 21:42.37 | PogoTribal | And also gear up a bit before going to Outlands, which would still have better gear anyways. |
| 21:43.04 | PogoTribal | Right now, I'll never find a group for Scholo to get conjured crystal water. |
| 21:43.13 | deltron | what level are you? |
| 21:43.15 | Tovort | rpowers: http://ace.pastey.net/5389 |
| 21:43.19 | kenlyric | trust me, no point in gearing up with STrat/scholo gear before going to outlands. I skipped it all on this toon and didn't even notice (except my upgrades seemed bigger) |
| 21:43.29 | deltron | conjured crystal water is in dire maul east |
| 21:43.43 | PogoTribal | Nobody's in DM either :) |
| 21:43.44 | rpowers | Tovort, thanks a ton :) |
| 21:43.45 | kenlyric | yeah, and you can speed run that. |
| 21:43.50 | PogoTribal | Sorry, I was thinking of major mana potion for Scholo. |
| 21:43.52 | rpowers | woah |
| 21:43.54 | Tovort | PogoTribal: You'll get new water at (?65?), don't bother |
| 21:43.57 | rpowers | i said the exact same thing a few mins ago |
| 21:44.02 | deltron | takes like 20 minutes or less to get that water |
| 21:44.16 | PogoTribal | 65? That's a lot of levels to be drinking 3k water with 7k mana. |
| 21:44.17 | rpowers | Tovort, won't he need rank 7 to learn rank 8? |
| 21:44.26 | kergoth | deltron: i wonder how you'd track something like the boiled bloods in hellfire peninsula |
| 21:44.28 | paranoidi | hmm, wowace wiki mentions that there is method Cartographer:GetDistanceToPoint in cartographer, why can't I find it ? :) |
| 21:44.32 | Quetzi | crystal water is trainable at trainer now |
| 21:44.34 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: http://www.wowwiki.com/Cenarion_Expedition |
| 21:44.40 | kergoth | since they start off as regular blood from the mob, but turn into boiled blood from the cauldron |
| 21:44.43 | kenlyric | PogoTribal: just buy real water :) |
| 21:44.48 | kenlyric | you've got enough money now :) |
| 21:44.49 | kergoth | course boiled blood was the goal of hte quest, so that particular example is easy |
| 21:44.52 | kergoth | but you get the point |
| 21:44.54 | Tovort | hmm I don't think so - you can skip those aq books, can't you? But of course i don't know for sure |
| 21:45.05 | durcyn | the aq books are all trainable now too |
| 21:45.06 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25796 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - added actual code |
| 21:45.08 | PogoTribal | Quetzi: You can train crystal now? |
| 21:45.12 | Quetzi | yup |
| 21:45.18 | rpowers | Tovort, the AQ books are trainable at 60/62 |
| 21:45.33 | rpowers | Tovort, not sure if water was. I already knew it so i wouldn't have seen it anyway |
| 21:45.54 | PogoTribal | kenlyric: OHH, I see, it's a TBC inclusion. My bad I thought you mean Cenarion Hold. |
| 21:46.00 | deltron | kergoth: that quest drove me insane |
| 21:46.04 | PogoTribal | I haven't gotten to Zangarmarsh yet. |
| 21:46.38 | PogoTribal | What the hell is wrong with Blizzard? The mage ranks of frostbolt are completely fucked up. |
| 21:46.52 | Tovort | rpowers: I never played a mage (well just someone else's, not one of my own) - so i have no clue - maybe thottbot or wowwiki can help |
| 21:46.59 | PogoTribal | Why do they always have to backpedal and say nothing is wrong? |
| 21:47.05 | thalie | l2p |
| 21:47.07 | thalie | :) |
| 21:47.08 | kergoth | http://xkcd.com/c208.html |
| 21:47.16 | kenlyric | everything I have in my inventory is from TBC , except the blessed prayer beads, and my pets and mount. |
| 21:47.33 | Antiarc|Work | Heh. 4 of my 5 bags are still old-world crap. |
| 21:47.35 | kenlyric | speaking of pets, where are all the noncom pets in TBC? |
| 21:47.39 | PogoTribal | I shelled out 25g for a bank slot to hold all my fire gear (aka T1) |
| 21:47.47 | deltron | heh |
| 21:47.51 | durcyn | kenlyric: you can get a bunch from the consortium in netherstorm |
| 21:47.52 | kergoth | i was so happy to vendor 90% of my alternate gear |
| 21:48.04 | kenlyric | wow, I got rid of most of my fire gear on my old toon :) |
| 21:48.15 | deltron | I have waaaaaaaay too much gear, I disenchanted half of it: http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/wow-gm/char.cfm?char=Diode@US-Suramar&action=equipment |
| 21:48.17 | kenlyric | before tbc ever even thought of dropping. |
| 21:48.24 | Ordog | i still got my everglow lantern! |
| 21:48.42 | rpowers | Tovort, the hack works awesomely. I might change the tooltip info later, but the graphical display works (i have moneyfu showing the numeric value anyway) |
| 21:48.45 | Ordog | used it twice or so but comes handy on dark screens ;P |
| 21:48.55 | Antiarc|Work | Hard to get rid of your FR when you still need it for Firemaw :/ |
| 21:49.00 | kenlyric | oh, and my timbermaw wand. |
| 21:49.00 | Tovort | rpowers: glad i could help |
| 21:49.11 | durcyn | you guys are really finding that many upgrades? the only items i've replaced yet are my rag neck and a ring.. i really hate how blizzard is lowering the spell damage on the new items, so i can't bring myself to use many of them =( |
| 21:49.14 | PogoTribal | deltron: Holy crap man... you have all that gear? |
| 21:49.19 | deltron | PogoTribal: sadly, yes |
| 21:49.26 | PogoTribal | Sell that shit. |
| 21:49.32 | kenlyric | durcyn: I rerolled, so I was in gear from uldamana and ST when I stepped into outlands :) |
| 21:49.33 | deltron | lol; |
| 21:49.38 | deltron | I've disenchanted half of it |
| 21:49.44 | Ordog | lowering? got a +50 dam/heal mace atm from blood durnance and i love it Oo |
| 21:49.59 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, do you happen to have a sample of the sanity2 savedvariables for what it looks like when you have items tagged? |
| 21:50.00 | Ordog | furnance* |
| 21:50.02 | Tovort | http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=10140 < you will get conjure water rank 7 from the trainer now |
| 21:50.06 | Antiarc|Work | I think at last count I had...41 trinkets. |
| 21:50.07 | kergoth | my gf was quite amused at how happy i was at all the free inventory slots after vendoring most of my old gear |
| 21:50.10 | durcyn | kenlyric: oh well. at least i've got a 280% gryphon, so i can feel smug and superior. |
| 21:50.12 | kergoth | "ooh look! open slots!" |
| 21:50.12 | PogoTribal | durcyn: On my priest, most of the gear I've replaced or added was +damage, I still have most of my +healing gear at level 61. |
| 21:50.19 | kergoth | i'm easily entertained, clearly |
| 21:50.19 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: Not on me, but I can probably recreate it by hand. What's the problem? |
| 21:50.25 | shieldb | not a problem, actually |
| 21:50.28 | pastamancer | kergoth: god bless the free inventory/bank slots! |
| 21:50.39 | pastamancer | I sharded all of my FR gear |
| 21:50.41 | kergoth | as i often say, when you havent had something fora long time, you really appreciate it |
| 21:50.42 | *** part/#wowace Peri (n=Crim@xtreme-10-18.dyn.aci.on.ca) |
| 21:50.53 | ckknight | for RollCall-1.0, do you think you should be able to access info about offline members? |
| 21:50.54 | shieldb | I just manually set it up so that all the gems in the game currently fall into the category of uncut gems or socketable gems |
| 21:50.56 | Antiarc|Work | It should just be {["Item Name"] = {"Tag 1", "Tag2", "Tag3"}}, etc. |
| 21:50.58 | kergoth | after moving down here i lived in a hotel for 8 months, then moved into a house.. so i havent had a toaster in over a year |
| 21:51.02 | deltron | PogoTribal: I'm also a highly situational gear dude :P |
| 21:51.07 | kergoth | i was SO happy to be able to make toast, after buying one. |
| 21:51.09 | Ordog | as soon as i hit 340 tailoring i made 10 imbued netherweave bags ... i got space ^^ |
| 21:51.10 | durcyn | PogoTribal: yeah, but questing 10 levels should have given me items with stam and spelldamage more than they did... in netherstorm now and maybe one item is better than my t2/t3, the rest are either without stamina or without spelldamage. fuck int and spirit, seriously. |
| 21:51.16 | kergoth | "nikki! look! toast! woo!" |
| 21:51.19 | kenlyric | yeah, even now I keep a damage, healing, and spirit set on me at all times. |
| 21:51.20 | shieldb | I was going to add tags to indicate which color sockets they could go into as well |
| 21:51.32 | shieldb | but I don't have anything tagged in my saved variables atm |
| 21:51.37 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, doing the SV by hand? |
| 21:51.41 | Antiarc|Work | Did you do a UI reload? |
| 21:51.46 | Antiarc|Work | SVs don't get written until you reload or log out. |
| 21:51.49 | shieldb | I'm at work :) |
| 21:51.52 | Antiarc|Work | Aha, ok. |
| 21:51.52 | shieldb | no wow here |
| 21:51.56 | shieldb | well, on my lunch |
| 21:51.57 | Antiarc|Work | Let me doublecheck real fast. |
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| 21:52.22 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, no, it's: |
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| 21:52.39 | Antiarc|Work | ["Item Name"] = {["Tag"] = 1, ["Tag2"] = 1}} |
| 21:52.40 | Koaschten | hmmm could it be the sticky minimap notes bug is back in cartographer? |
| 21:52.45 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. I wonder why I did it that way. |
| 21:52.52 | kenlyric | awww, his t3 gear didn't get upgradeD? let's pity him... ;) |
| 21:52.58 | shieldb | possibly because you can have an item with multiple tags? |
| 21:53.02 | shieldb | but not multiple categories |
| 21:53.05 | ckknight | Koaschten: update |
| 21:53.06 | kenlyric | Wow, did they make the fishing quest easier, or didi I get lucky? |
| 21:53.07 | durcyn | kenlyric: pfeh =P |
| 21:53.15 | kenlyric | I just got my Feralas Ahi on the second cast. |
| 21:53.16 | Koaschten | i did from svn1 5 minutes ago ckknight ;) |
| 21:53.17 | ckknight | seriously, is something wrong with files? people keep using the old version of Cart |
| 21:53.17 | Antiarc|Work | Well, no, that's why ItemTags["Item"] is a table of the tags. |
| 21:53.19 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, I know |
| 21:53.26 | ckknight | Koaschten: *shrug* |
| 21:53.30 | ckknight | Koaschten: how to reproduce? |
| 21:53.31 | Antiarc|Work | It's so I could set ItemTags["Item"]["tag"] = nil when the tag was invalidated. |
| 21:53.48 | Koaschten | login move, notes stick to me |
| 21:53.51 | Antiarc|Work | Though I guess I could have just done a tremovebyval(ItemTags["Item"], "Tag") |
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| 21:54.04 | Koaschten | scrap that. |
| 21:54.12 | Antiarc|Work | Which would be better, actually. |
| 21:54.12 | Koaschten | just did a /rl and its gone? wtf |
| 21:54.15 | Koaschten | let me relog |
| 21:54.17 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:54.29 | kergoth | i'd still like to hack omnibus into supporting itemlinks in its pages |
| 21:54.32 | Antiarc|Work | I may upgrade it, but for now, it's Sanity.db.profile.ItemTags[ItemName][Tag] = 1 |
| 21:54.34 | kergoth | a notepad with itemlink support would rock |
| 21:55.02 | shieldb | kk |
| 21:56.40 | SkorcherX | what is the holdup on Flexbar2 i feel like ive been waiting for months for it... |
| 21:56.44 | SkorcherX | since it last broke |
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| 21:56.54 | SkorcherX | no updates on site either |
| 21:56.57 | Antiarc|Work | SkorcherX: Write it yourself. ;) |
| 21:57.06 | SkorcherX | i saw that coming a mile away |
| 21:57.09 | durcyn | SkorcherX: apparently no one gave the mod authors pizza money |
| 21:57.20 | durcyn | SkorcherX: perhaps you'd like to find them and volunteer to do so =) |
| 21:57.37 | Antiarc|Work | It's open software, and if it isn't being maintained, should likely be maintained by its userbase! :) |
| 21:57.56 | SkorcherX | if it would spped up the dev i would glady paypal a few bucks over |
| 21:58.03 | shieldb | so if I've got tags of "Red Socket" "Blue Socket" "Yellow Socket" "Meta Socket", should it be ["Glinting Noble Topaz"] = {["Red Socket"] = 1, ["Yellow Socket"] = 1}} or would it need to include the other tags set to 0/nil? |
| 21:58.15 | Antiarc|Work | Nope, that's right. |
| 21:58.28 | paranoidi | ckknight: sorry to bother again, couple cartographer questions .. is there :GetDistanceToPoint as wiki mentions? Is it possible to search cartographer note database? It's notes API only provides way to access using x,y .. |
| 21:58.42 | Antiarc|Work | The nilling is just for when a tag is removed. I think I did it that way so that I wasn't creating new tables when a tag was removed ,though I'm a moron because I could have just used tremovebyval |
| 21:58.50 | ckknight | paranoidi: um, rephrase? |
| 21:58.59 | ckknight | the wiki is correct |
| 21:59.09 | ckknight | you can search the database by doing iterate nearby |
| 21:59.18 | Antiarc|Work | I should start delaying my mods so I can get people to donate a few bucks to speed up development. >_> |
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| 21:59.25 | PogoTribal | You know what's kind of cool about Prophecy now? |
| 21:59.28 | Antiarc|Work | Well, assuming that I actually have users. |
| 21:59.37 | PogoTribal | It's +28 critical spell rating, not just holy spells. |
| 21:59.40 | PogoTribal | For 5/8 |
| 21:59.54 | Saroz | haha cartographer minimap is fucked |
| 21:59.55 | paranoidi | ckknight: I can't find string "GetDistanceToPoint" in anywhere cartographer's codebase or grep is bugging =) |
| 22:00.18 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: who cares? i'm sure you wrote it for yourself, users are just a bonus :) |
| 22:00.25 | ckknight | function Cartographer:GetDistanceToPoint(x, y, zone, px, py, pzone) |
| 22:00.26 | kergoth | or a curse, depending on how you look at it |
| 22:00.28 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:00.30 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: Nobody has to know that. <_< |
| 22:00.34 | ckknight | paranoidi: it's there. |
| 22:00.39 | ckknight | maybe I haven't committed yet |
| 22:00.45 | ckknight | I'm working on it |
| 22:00.50 | ckknight | no, it's committed |
| 22:00.53 | paranoidi | ckknight: hahaa, isn't that equal to not being there yet :) |
| 22:01.00 | ckknight | it's there. |
| 22:01.09 | Barbanus | svn is out of sync |
| 22:01.10 | paranoidi | ckknight: oh? I better update it then |
| 22:01.16 | Barbanus | make sure you are syncing to svn1 |
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| 22:01.24 | ckknight | or dev. |
| 22:01.28 | Barbanus | or dev |
| 22:01.35 | Barbanus | svn2 is borked atm |
| 22:01.53 | paranoidi | I don't have SVN access (yet) so using wowace updater ... |
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| 22:02.09 | Barbanus | oh, that updates every 20 mins, not in realtime |
| 22:02.35 | paranoidi | btw, why are you running multiple svn repos? (svk?) |
| 22:02.40 | paranoidi | too much load for one? |
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| 22:03.51 | kergoth | it isnt svk, its just a bunch of svnsync'd repositories, and yes, its to reduce the load |
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| 22:07.18 | specialbrad | Is there a quick way to unlock a single bar in bt3? |
| 22:07.29 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r25797 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - toc update |
| 22:08.42 | PogoTribal | specialbrad: no |
| 22:08.50 | specialbrad | poo |
| 22:09.02 | specialbrad | I hit unlock and not all my bars unlock, it's annoying :/ |
| 22:09.04 | CIA-17 | 03derkyle * r25798 10ItemSync/ (. ItemSync.toc ItemSync_Fubar.lua): |
| 22:09.04 | CIA-17 | ItemSync: |
| 22:09.04 | CIA-17 | - |
| 22:09.22 | pastamancer | it's safe to sync to svn.wowace.com |
| 22:10.38 | PogoTribal | Is there a way to take the Stormwind portal at the Dark Portal? |
| 22:10.57 | nymbia | PogoTribal: dont think so |
| 22:10.59 | durcyn | no. |
| 22:11.04 | nymbia | head to shatt |
| 22:11.10 | durcyn | you have to go to shattrath for that, the dark portal stuff is just scenery |
| 22:11.43 | Antiarc|Work | PogoTribal: If you /love the NPCs coming out of the portal, they'll invite you to a group and you can take the portal. >_> |
| 22:12.09 | nymbia | sounds like a plan |
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| 22:14.01 | whizter | hi |
| 22:14.37 | PogoTribal | Umm... cartographer has royally fuct my minimap.. |
| 22:14.46 | whizter | can someone tell me how to get enchantlist to work with a german version? i tried a few things out but im running into errors. (no experience with lua & ace etc.) |
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| 22:15.44 | whizter | first problem: "Enchanting" is "Verzauberkunst" in german. and enchantlist won't find the window because it's searching for "Enchanting".. tried to change that but it doesn't work |
| 22:16.20 | paranoidi | hmmh, aceupdater failed to update cartographer correctly, says it's missing Grayon-2.0 ;P |
| 22:16.56 | PogoTribal | I have to disable th eminimap features. |
| 22:17.01 | PogoTribal | THere are purple circles everywhere. |
| 22:17.04 | paranoidi | or .. I might have other problems aswell ... |
| 22:18.12 | Antiarc|Work | whitzer: It needs to be localized to deDE |
| 22:18.17 | durcyn | paranoidi: Grayon or Crayon? |
| 22:18.18 | Antiarc|Work | Look in localization.lua |
| 22:18.28 | ckknight | it's Crayon |
| 22:18.47 | paranoidi | yes, sorry about typo :) |
| 22:18.48 | durcyn | trying to figure if it's a typo or a lib err :o |
| 22:19.01 | Antiarc|Work | Copy and paste everything after the first line into a new block at the end of the file, change "enUS" to "deDE", and then change the "true" to the german translation of each of those strings. |
| 22:19.09 | whizter | Antiarc|Work, i tried that. |
| 22:19.34 | whizter | wait. which true do you mean? |
| 22:19.36 | OvrLrd-Q | PogoTribal: I got that too, just turned off icons on the minimap |
| 22:19.45 | Antiarc|Work | Well, for example -- |
| 22:19.45 | durcyn | paranoidi: sometimes the svn-to-zip script misses externals, do you have Cartographer\Libs\Crayon-2.0\Crayon-2.0.lua ? |
| 22:19.46 | Antiarc|Work | ["Search description"] = true |
| 22:19.58 | paranoidi | durcyn: nope |
| 22:20.02 | Antiarc|Work | That needs to become ["Search description"] = "German translation of 'Search Description'" |
| 22:20.10 | whizter | ah ok |
| 22:20.11 | whizter | thx |
| 22:20.18 | Antiarc|Work | You shouldn't need to make any changes in the EnchantList.lua file |
| 22:20.29 | whizter | ok. i tried that before :) |
| 22:20.31 | Antiarc|Work | Just create a new localization block in localization.lua and change appropriately. |
| 22:20.57 | whizter | i already tried to add a block "deDE" but then it spitted out an error |
| 22:21.02 | kergoth | what are people using for buffing addons? for reminding people to apply their damn buffs? my shaman is always forgetting to cast lightning shield |
| 22:21.10 | Antiarc|Work | What error? |
| 22:21.15 | rpowers | Has GMail or fumailfu changed so that alt-clicking items doesn't work anymore? I can't remember which one did this, but I just updated all my addons, and I can't alt-click items now (to put in AH, trade or mail) |
| 22:21.26 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: I keep meaning to write a good one. |
| 22:21.27 | whizter | wait a minute |
| 22:21.41 | deltron | there's a mod that does that |
| 22:21.45 | paranoidi | kergoth: dunno, but if you find one please remind me aswell.. I'm out of trueshot aura most of the time :) |
| 22:21.46 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: I used to use Discord and had a giant Battleshout button in the middle of my screen that was visible any time I had >=10 rage and didn't have BS up |
| 22:21.47 | deltron | altclick or something |
| 22:21.54 | kergoth | rpowers: altclicktoadditem |
| 22:21.56 | Antiarc|Work | It was -awesome- and I need to write a mod to replicate that. |
| 22:22.00 | kergoth | rpowers: grennon did it as a seperate addon |
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| 22:22.08 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: hard now in WoW 2.0 |
| 22:22.10 | whizter | AceLocale(EnchantList): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not. |
| 22:22.16 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Not really, just can't make it clickable. |
| 22:22.19 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: but take a look at SmartBuff |
| 22:22.26 | Antiarc|Work | I used a keyboard shortcut - the button was just a visual reminder |
| 22:22.29 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:22.33 | kergoth | i used to use smartbuff a long long long time ago |
| 22:22.43 | Antiarc|Work | "Oh hey, there's a big button in my way, I want to get rid of it!" *battleshout* |
| 22:22.44 | stavmar | does anyone here use TradeskillInfo |
| 22:22.50 | kergoth | around the time i used autobuff.. scroll wheel autobuffing ftw |
| 22:23.06 | deltron | lol |
| 22:23.10 | deltron | I miss autobuff |
| 22:23.12 | kergoth | curse-gaming's layout changed again? i'm lost |
| 22:23.20 | deltron | I missed when it actually automatically buffed you |
| 22:23.44 | deltron | then they made it so the troll racial was active, so every 3 minutes i'd get bezerking lol |
| 22:23.45 | whizter | Antiarc|Work, do you mean that "["Gloves"] = true" should become "["Gloves"] = "Handschuhe"" in my new block? |
| 22:23.46 | kergoth | i still miss autotravel |
| 22:23.53 | Antiarc|Work | whitzer: Yes. |
| 22:23.56 | whizter | ok :) |
| 22:24.36 | Nickenyfiken | #¤%#¤% realms |
| 22:25.08 | paranoidi | hmm, I installed Crayon-2.0 manually for cartographer and now it's complaining about Babble-Zone-2.2: Translation "Azeroth" does not exist :) |
| 22:25.11 | Antiarc|Work | Whitzer: If you get it working, consider sending it to the author. It's always nice when someone localizes something for us :) |
| 22:25.24 | rpowers | kergoth, is there any specific caps for that if i check it out of CVS? |
| 22:25.30 | deltron | lol |
| 22:25.39 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.43 | Nickenyfiken | anyone else on a EU realm that goes down atleast once every hour? |
| 22:25.56 | paranoidi | o/ |
| 22:25.59 | paranoidi | Emeriss ? |
| 22:26.07 | Nickenyfiken | Outland |
| 22:26.35 | kergoth | rpowers: its AltClickToAddItem, and its svn |
| 22:26.42 | kergoth | people still using cvs need a boot to the head |
| 22:26.45 | deltron | Nickenyfiken: reminds me of my realm, suramar |
| 22:26.49 | rpowers | kergoth, thansk |
| 22:26.57 | rpowers | kergoth, sorry, i meant SVN |
| 22:27.01 | kergoth | :) |
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| 22:27.16 | Nickenyfiken | and their is a 5-15 min queue every evening between 6-10 |
| 22:27.54 | paranoidi | kergoth: I have some co-workers who don't like SVN and prefer CVS .. luckily SVN was chosen as official few weeks ago ;P |
| 22:28.23 | Antiarc|Work | Ugh, CVS., |
| 22:28.31 | kergoth | how can you prefer an scm tool as weak as cvs? shitty handling of directories, no support for renames/moves.. |
| 22:28.38 | kergoth | no thanks |
| 22:28.59 | kergoth | monotone, darcs, git, svn, bk, perforce, clearcase, for gods sake anything but cvs |
| 22:28.59 | deltron | kergoth: heh doubt i'm going to move off suramar :P |
| 22:29.01 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25799 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - store each setting in its own table, so now there's 10 tables with 120 values in em instead of 120 tables with 10 values in em. |
| 22:29.03 | Nickenyfiken | hmm looks like Azeroth is up but not Outland... can login with my banker standing in Thunder Bluff |
| 22:29.13 | kergoth | SMARTBUFF_VERSION = "v2.0h"; |
| 22:29.13 | kergoth | SMARTBUFF_TITLE = "SmartBuff"; |
| 22:29.14 | kergoth | blech |
| 22:29.16 | kergoth | globals FTL |
| 22:29.22 | paranoidi | they were having problems with IDE that moved directories when refactoring (along with .svn metadirs) -> problems |
| 22:29.55 | paranoidi | didn't matter when I said that you would've had same problems with CVS ;P |
| 22:30.02 | ckknight | I don't understand people's obsession with globals. |
| 22:30.21 | yacoob | everyone aims for world domination :) |
| 22:30.24 | ckknight | I mean, is there a good reason not to namespace? |
| 22:30.28 | kergoth | namespace pollution is bad, damnit |
| 22:30.57 | whizter | Antiarc|Work, if it works i will send it ;) |
| 22:30.59 | pastamancer | global thermonuclear war |
| 22:31.05 | kergoth | hmm, whats this BuffMe addon in svn.. |
| 22:31.09 | kergoth | ## Notes: Shows needed buffs in a movable frame |
| 22:32.12 | vid` | pretty much everyone who used cvs switching to svn should tell you something |
| 22:32.16 | vid` | :) |
| 22:32.23 | vid` | even google uses svn~ |
| 22:32.47 | Trancer | and because google uses, it's good, right? |
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| 22:33.17 | vid` | indeed |
| 22:33.20 | vid` | :P |
| 22:34.25 | deltron | lol |
| 22:34.32 | deltron | tempted to use google apps |
| 22:34.36 | deltron | but i'm not sure |
| 22:34.37 | kergoth | * nerdboy-gentoo goes through the 7 phases of svn assimilation |
| 22:34.37 | kergoth | <nerdboy-gentoo> wonder, confusion, acceptance, excitement, annoyance, hair-pulling, zen |
| 22:34.40 | kergoth | <mr_science> a friend says you need "BUT WE NEED LABELS NOT COPIES!!!" as one of the phases :-) |
| 22:34.43 | kergoth | <nerdboy-gentoo> that would fit under hair-pulling, no? |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25800 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: updated slave pens |
| 22:35.44 | deltron | heh gentoo |
| 22:36.40 | deltron | never been a big gentoo fan |
| 22:37.01 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25801 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - fix :GetIterator |
| 22:37.02 | kergoth | i always say, gentoo has great ideas, but their implementations leavea great deal to be desired |
| 22:37.19 | kergoth | debian gets things solid... if they can manage to actually start moving with anything |
| 22:37.58 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25802 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer - utilize RollCall-1.0 for guild information. |
| 22:38.04 | axxo | kergoth: hope your not serious :) |
| 22:38.25 | axxo | kergoth: everyone who works on portage agrees the codebase is the most terrible thing every |
| 22:38.38 | Silviu- | ckknight then i need get RollCall-1.0 as a standalone right ? |
| 22:38.49 | ckknight | Silviu-: it's an external in Cartographer |
| 22:38.51 | vid` | its part of !!!standalonelibs now |
| 22:39.05 | Silviu- | I use externals |
| 22:39.11 | steev64 | !meta Fubar_uFriends |
| 22:39.14 | steev64 | er |
| 22:39.43 | Antiarc|Work | How do you get the mana/energy/rage cost for a spell? |
| 22:39.46 | vid` | lol |
| 22:39.46 | paranoidi | hmmh, apparently this is no good: if (Cartographer:GetDistanceToPoint) then {...}. How can I check if cartographer has that function available? |
| 22:39.53 | steev64 | !seen darkimakuni |
| 22:40.00 | vid` | kemayo's last commit log on quixote |
| 22:40.04 | vid` | Quixote: Check for _FEMALE on rep levels. Darn foreigners. |
| 22:40.07 | kergoth | paranoidi: s/:/./ |
| 22:40.10 | vid` | lol |
| 22:40.25 | kergoth | : is syntactic sugar for -calls-, but you arent calling it there. |
| 22:40.35 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: afaik you have to scan the tooltip |
| 22:40.39 | paranoidi | kergoth: oh, I'm not yet terribly familiar with the 'object' concept in ace/lua |
| 22:40.40 | Antiarc|Work | Bleh! |
| 22:40.44 | ckknight | gotta go to class |
| 22:40.46 | steev64 | can someone please fix Fubar_uFriends? or is there something better? |
| 22:40.49 | thalie | night ck |
| 22:40.55 | kergoth | axxo: i'm quite serious, thankfully we replaced every line of that crap code eventually |
| 22:41.07 | kergoth | http://openembedded.org/ is the project |
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| 22:42.43 | paranoidi | ckknight: oh, you've fixed the note clutter problem in latest rev. Kudos :) |
| 22:42.52 | ckknight | 12:55, not 12:45 |
| 22:44.49 | CIA-17 | 03werehamster * r25803 10HealSync/HealSync.lua: |
| 22:44.49 | CIA-17 | HealSync: |
| 22:44.49 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.03 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25804 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - added :GetEnglishClass(["name"]) |
| 22:45.29 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 22:45.43 | pastamancer | hmm, any of you addon updater developer types around? |
| 22:46.25 | steev64 | how do i do an svn co? i want to pull revision 22915 of FuBar_uFriends (last one that worked) and it keeps giving me a 405 |
| 22:47.10 | Kaelten | svn co -r 22915 url |
| 22:47.15 | Kaelten | svn co -r 22915 url targetdir |
| 22:47.21 | Silviu- | svn co --ignore-externals -r 22915 url |
| 22:47.22 | Silviu- | :) |
| 22:47.24 | steev64 | no no |
| 22:47.26 | steev64 | i get that |
| 22:47.45 | steev64 | i use subversion all the time - im asking what the url is - or is anonsvn not allowed any longer |
| 22:48.05 | steev64 | svn: PROPFIND of '/trunk/Fubar_uFriends': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 22:48.11 | durcyn | svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk |
| 22:48.14 | durcyn | not just /trunk |
| 22:48.17 | steev64 | ahh |
| 22:48.32 | steev64 | thank you kindly |
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| 22:51.34 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r25805 10RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0/RollCall-1.0.lua: RollCall-1.0 - rename GetGuildMaster to GetGuildLeader |
| 22:51.38 | whizter | i just translated enchantlist into german, but !enchant [itemlink] does not work only !enchant keyword.. is this working in the original version? |
| 22:52.13 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25806 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: using blizz files for underbog, removed map, updated script |
| 22:52.28 | ckknight | alright, now time to leave |
| 22:52.34 | ckknight | thanks so much, Funkeh`, for working on that |
| 22:52.36 | Silviu- | good night :) |
| 22:52.49 | hypetech | night |
| 22:53.02 | Funkeh` | hes got to go to work? |
| 22:53.27 | Funkeh` | meh, back to my shell |
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| 22:54.01 | WobWork | /who kaelten |
| 22:54.07 | WobWork | crai =P |
| 22:54.41 | Silviu- | WOA |
| 22:54.45 | Silviu- | Spamming my chat |
| 22:54.50 | Silviu- | With position things :)) |
| 22:55.07 | Silviu- | From cart |
| 22:55.30 | WobWork | note sharing? |
| 22:55.55 | Silviu- | No |
| 22:57.13 | Silviu- | Had to disable guild position module in Cart :) |
| 22:57.29 | Silviu- | http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot0123070055436xd.jpg |
| 22:58.52 | WobWork | schpammy |
| 22:58.58 | fatbrain | Whos screenshot is that? |
| 22:59.03 | Silviu- | Mine |
| 22:59.03 | Silviu- | :) |
| 22:59.05 | fatbrain | pm? |
| 22:59.08 | shieldb | Silviu-, while not related to the cartographer problem, what mod are you using for the xp bar at the bottom? |
| 22:59.13 | shieldb | ./curious |
| 22:59.19 | kergoth | looks like xpbarnone |
| 22:59.20 | Silviu- | XpBarNone |
| 22:59.24 | kergoth | good addon |
| 22:59.26 | Silviu- | Yep |
| 22:59.27 | fatbrain | na, I can spam ni the channel, don treally like pms |
| 22:59.29 | vid` | guild positions work yet? :) |
| 22:59.33 | fatbrain | Silviu-: What's the action-bar mod? |
| 22:59.42 | Silviu- | Bartdenr3 + cycircled |
| 22:59.50 | kergoth | looks a lot like my ui |
| 22:59.53 | Silviu- | Bartender* |
| 23:00.09 | fatbrain | demo/affliction specced? |
| 23:00.17 | *** join/#wowace fireglow (i=fireglow@irssi.eu) |
| 23:00.18 | fatbrain | I see an amplify curse on the toolbar |
| 23:00.24 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 23:00.51 | fatbrain | How do you toss a shadowbolt? |
| 23:00.57 | Silviu- | toss ? ;) |
| 23:01.00 | fatbrain | Like, what kb-keys u using? |
| 23:01.04 | fatbrain | toss => throw |
| 23:01.11 | Silviu- | 1 for Sb |
| 23:01.16 | fatbrain | and drain-soul? |
| 23:01.23 | Silviu- | No keybinding |
| 23:01.24 | Silviu- | mouse |
| 23:01.28 | fatbrain | ah :( |
| 23:01.36 | WobWork | oh man |
| 23:01.41 | WobWork | what sort of stuff are you killing?! |
| 23:01.50 | WobWork | 1 kill to level 50%? |
| 23:01.59 | Silviu- | Nah that is a bug in Xpbar |
| 23:02.02 | WobWork | crazytalk -( |
| 23:02.05 | WobWork | =) |
| 23:02.06 | Silviu- | When u first start game/reload |
| 23:02.08 | Silviu- | :) |
| 23:02.17 | fatbrain | lol |
| 23:02.30 | Silviu- | Must actually kill 1 mob to calculate :) |
| 23:02.32 | hypetech | hehe |
| 23:02.43 | Amadeo | fatbrain: Guess how much fps gain I achieved by compiling wine myself? |
| 23:02.53 | fatbrain | Amadeo: 0.1? |
| 23:03.04 | Amadeo | zero :P |
| 23:03.04 | hypetech | anybody else have screenies of their UI we can see? |
| 23:03.08 | hypetech | I'm looking for ideas |
| 23:03.11 | fatbrain | Silviu-: http://fatbrain.org/plx.jpg (not too happy with it, gonna try what you used) |
| 23:03.37 | Silviu- | Nice, samll all but in middle too much |
| 23:03.38 | Silviu- | :( |
| 23:03.45 | Silviu- | My ipinion |
| 23:03.48 | Silviu- | opinion* |
| 23:03.53 | fatbrain | (really dont know why I persists on keeping the "Attack" on my 1-key) |
| 23:04.19 | fatbrain | yeah, I agree. |
| 23:04.19 | Amadeo | fatbrain: What server is that? |
| 23:04.19 | fatbrain | Kazzak. |
| 23:04.19 | fatbrain | eu-server. |
| 23:04.19 | Amadeo | Oh ok |
| 23:04.19 | *** join/#wowace Parakie (i=PROFI@user-10874ap.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:04.20 | Amadeo | There must be lots of Macabre guilds |
| 23:04.20 | fatbrain | Yeah, there are. |
| 23:04.22 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r25807 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Artwork/ (38 files): Cartographer_Herbalism: new icons courtsey of Azmodan |
| 23:04.44 | fatbrain | Problem is, I don't like to turn my head around my screen when I want to look at my hp/mp, or my partys hp/mp.... :( |
| 23:04.50 | WobWork | =\ |
| 23:05.00 | Amadeo | How do you Priests heal using Grid? I can't even imagine how you can tell how much HP they have at a glance, it's too small :P |
| 23:05.00 | WobWork | the only problem with letting other people modify MrPlow |
| 23:05.10 | WobWork | They don't fix the breakages |
| 23:05.19 | Silviu- | fatbrain i usually look only at mine and target |
| 23:05.20 | hypetech | http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/wow_custom_ui.jpg |
| 23:05.22 | fatbrain | Amadeo: it works ok, colorises stuff and shit |
| 23:05.24 | shieldb | hypetech, http://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/warcraft/shots/unsorted/WoWScrnShot_010207_180011.jpg |
| 23:05.25 | WobWork | amadeo: scale it up =P |
| 23:05.32 | fatbrain | Silviu-: mm |
| 23:05.33 | kergoth | WobWork: and guess who gets the bug reports.. you, of course, right? :P |
| 23:05.33 | Silviu- | That is why i don`t need any "raid" addons like Grid |
| 23:05.40 | WobWork | naturally =P |
| 23:05.44 | fatbrain | let me change what I have now, and I'll repost a screenie |
| 23:05.54 | WobWork | At the moment I'm trying to trace why ignoring no longer works |
| 23:05.54 | fatbrain | ewww |
| 23:05.57 | fatbrain | who's screenie was that? |
| 23:06.00 | Amadeo | fatbrain: You run in that resolution in Linux? |
| 23:06.06 | fatbrain | Amadeo: yes. |
| 23:06.09 | WobWork | Mind you, I do appreciate the refactoring and efficiencies done to it |
| 23:06.16 | fatbrain | looks fubar if I run it in less that 1920x1600 |
| 23:06.26 | hypetech | shieldb what is that damage meter? |
| 23:06.26 | WobWork | I completely did not know about the select() statement |
| 23:06.30 | Amadeo | You must have a good computer to get a decent framerate at that res |
| 23:06.33 | kergoth | select() rocks |
| 23:06.36 | shieldb | hypetech, sw_stats |
| 23:06.39 | hypetech | nice |
| 23:07.08 | hypetech | and what is the addon with the arcs beside you? |
| 23:07.13 | fatbrain | Amadeo: not really, tho I only have decent fps where there are no other players roaming around, made some hw-purchaces, still pending |
| 23:07.19 | shieldb | drathal's hud (dhud) |
| 23:07.23 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 23:07.31 | Silviu- | shieldb nice ui |
| 23:07.46 | shieldb | thanks |
| 23:07.48 | kergoth | i stopped using a hud on my rogue, still not sure how i feel about it |
| 23:08.00 | shieldb | I've changed it a little since TBC released but it's mostly the same |
| 23:08.00 | Silviu- | Pretty clean :) |
| 23:08.11 | Amadeo | I can't get used to hud layouts |
| 23:08.15 | Antiarc|Work | I have never been able to get into HUDs in WoW. |
| 23:08.31 | Amadeo | only the DHUD self-left, target-right makes sense to me |
| 23:08.37 | Silviu- | I used a hud once only for the design i am used looking up at hp |
| 23:08.39 | kergoth | i cant remember how to play a rogue without one, i keep failing to look at my unitframe, end up nearly dead half th etime |
| 23:08.57 | Silviu- | Althou the hud was in middle i always looked up at Hp, so i deleted it :)) |
| 23:08.59 | shieldb | kergoth, I moved to using a HUD because I find I like looking in the middle of the screen for stats on my target where I can still see the fight rather then looking off in the corner and missing out on the fight itself |
| 23:09.14 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:09.20 | Barbanus | I hate huds |
| 23:09.27 | WobWork | I need a new computer =( |
| 23:09.28 | kergoth | i'm always looking in the middle at msbt and kenergy anyway |
| 23:09.38 | Amadeo | I find that HUD or not, when you're focusing on your health or mana, you're missing what's going on elsewhere anyway |
| 23:09.38 | kergoth | moved my aguf player and target frames just below the center, that works okay |
| 23:09.39 | WobWork | my laptop is giving up the graphics ghost since the xpac |
| 23:09.40 | Barbanus | mainly cause my main is a pally, and I dont ever look at the middle of the screen |
| 23:09.44 | fatbrain | What's up with that 2000% scaled frames your using!? |
| 23:09.51 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:09.58 | OvrLrd-Q | shieldb: what damage addon is that |
| 23:10.01 | hypetech | he likes big frames |
| 23:10.07 | fatbrain | indeed so it seems |
| 23:10.07 | WobWork | and he can't deny |
| 23:10.11 | fatbrain | propably some fetish |
| 23:10.14 | shieldb | indeed :P |
| 23:10.22 | shieldb | OvrLrd-Q, sw_stats is on the side |
| 23:10.25 | kergoth | hrm, my addons dir is 82 megs |
| 23:10.25 | WobWork | damnit |
| 23:10.28 | kergoth | thats a bit much |
| 23:10.30 | WobWork | And he cannot lie =P |
| 23:10.35 | shieldb | or simplecombat log on the left |
| 23:10.36 | WobWork | those other bruthas can't deny |
| 23:10.39 | fatbrain | kergoth: stop hiding your pr0n in the addons folder |
| 23:10.43 | kergoth | shh |
| 23:10.47 | Silviu- | 42.5 MB (44,668,419 bytes) |
| 23:10.56 | hypetech | 51MB here |
| 23:11.00 | WobWork | when a frame walks in with an itty bitty edge and a scaled up in your face you get SPRUNG |
| 23:11.01 | shieldb | I scaled the frames up that big because I find the text to be cleaner that way |
| 23:11.02 | Silviu- | 97 objects selected |
| 23:11.03 | Silviu- | :) |
| 23:11.08 | *** part/#wowace [BiS]Pkekyo|aw (n=bsm89mod@084202138117.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 23:11.08 | fatbrain | 129Mb !! |
| 23:11.12 | kergoth | /media/crydee/Games/wow/Interface/AddOns$ svk ls|wc -l |
| 23:11.13 | kergoth | 186 |
| 23:11.14 | Silviu- | I use standalones |
| 23:11.15 | Barbanus | fatbrain, WTF? |
| 23:11.18 | Silviu- | So that is why is smaller |
| 23:11.19 | Silviu- | :) |
| 23:11.23 | WobWork | crydee? =) |
| 23:11.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:11.36 | kergoth | i pick random names from books for my machines |
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| 23:11.44 | kergoth | hyperion, crydee, covenant.. |
| 23:11.45 | shieldb | since I'm using a HUD and I've got all the ui elements on that sectioned off bottom part, it fills the space better to scale them that way :P |
| 23:11.46 | WobWork | Feistalicious |
| 23:11.56 | Amadeo | Sounds like Halo |
| 23:12.09 | Barbanus | shieldb, and if you die, well you must be blind |
| 23:12.34 | shieldb | I don't mind it at all to use smaller frames, but the bottom section looks off to me to have big gaps where I'm not utilizing the space |
| 23:12.56 | fatbrain | bbiab |
| 23:13.17 | kergoth | i put all my actionbuttons in the bottom center (only one bar + autobar + trinketmenu (no menu open)), chat on the bottom left, eavesdrop on the bottom right, buffs between eavesdrop and the buttons, cooldown bars between chat and the buttons |
| 23:13.22 | kergoth | works okay |
| 23:13.27 | kergoth | still not sure if i'm sticking with it though |
| 23:14.12 | shieldb | I just use keybindings for all my stuff, so I've got the one actionbar via bartender and ctrl/alt/shift change pages |
| 23:14.18 | Saroz | so many doublicate quest marks on the map, it's silly |
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| 23:14.50 | Amadeo | I hate how they ruined what Stargate SG:1 was with that horrible Stargate: Atlantis |
| 23:14.51 | shieldb | I've got a logitech g15 so the three groups of 6 buttons on the far left line up with how the keyboard is laid out |
| 23:14.55 | Amadeo | Atlantis is junk |
| 23:15.12 | kergoth | shieldb: yeah, me too. works nice |
| 23:15.18 | Saroz | SG1 ftw |
| 23:15.22 | kergoth | the actoinbar bits that is, no g15 |
| 23:15.50 | Amadeo | Saroz: Yeah...Atlantis is like some horrible WB show to me |
| 23:15.52 | kergoth | i'm curious about what keybindings people of various classes set up. should set up a little site that people can share their bindings |
| 23:16.22 | shieldb | hopefully it isn't some automated process to share, otherwise I'd screw that up |
| 23:16.36 | shieldb | the extra keys on the g15 don't actually count as keys the same way in windows |
| 23:17.11 | shieldb | so I have them set up to be obscure combinations... the "G13" key sends "shift+ctrl+F1" |
| 23:17.11 | kergoth | itd be cool to select your keyboard layout (g15, qwerty, etc), then attach the bindings cache or something |
| 23:18.51 | Mikma | ahem, one question |
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| 23:18.59 | Mikma | how is FlexBar2 supposed to work? |
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| 23:20.05 | kergoth | hmm, colamachine's trustguild is icky |
| 23:20.22 | kergoth | it constructs a new temp table and populates it with the guild members on each addonmessage received, afaict |
| 23:20.55 | CIA-17 | 03derkyle * r25808 10ItemSync/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:20.55 | CIA-17 | ItemSync: |
| 23:20.55 | CIA-17 | - Added: FuBar Plugin for ItemSync. |
| 23:21.32 | hypetech | is fubar_agfu throwing errors on start for everyone or just me? |
| 23:21.43 | Thorgard | hypetech, delete it. |
| 23:21.47 | hypetech | oh |
| 23:21.53 | kergoth | i hate it when addon authors with stuff in svn arent in here |
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| 23:22.16 | Thorgard | kergoth, yeah. ;P Should have everyone come idle in the channel. |
| 23:22.23 | hypetech | Thorgard so is it gone for good? |
| 23:22.47 | Hjalte | hypetech: fubar plugin is built in now |
| 23:22.54 | hypetech | sweet |
| 23:23.00 | nae|lap | cool. The modded alphamap (to be much more lightweight - without herbs and stuff) still works :) |
| 23:23.34 | sbu | woot, stargate ftw :p |
| 23:24.28 | kebinusan | hmm ark inventory wont let you link items in your bank when you arent at the teller |
| 23:24.34 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25809 10HotMan/HotMan.lua: HotMan: Fixed bugs with detection of events. Added clique casting support |
| 23:25.09 | cladhaire | ooh whats hotman? |
| 23:25.13 | cladhaire | sounds sexy |
| 23:25.21 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: I have a replacement for ColaMachine sitting here drycoded on my machine waiting for testing tonight. :D |
| 23:25.31 | Antiarc|Work | It's a pull-based design, rather than push. |
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| 23:26.47 | hypetech | what is colamachine? |
| 23:26.53 | Saroz | tasty |
| 23:27.02 | Antiarc|Work | Shares vendor sell prices for items collected with ColaLight |
| 23:27.08 | Antiarc|Work | Well, kinda |
| 23:27.13 | hypetech | I see |
| 23:27.20 | Antiarc|Work | It publishes the whole DB, and requires a custom channel as far as I can tell |
| 23:27.25 | hypetech | somebody should re-wrie auctioneer with Ace2 :) |
| 23:27.31 | hypetech | re-write* |
| 23:27.34 | thalie | kc_items |
| 23:27.41 | cladhaire | hypetech: Why? |
| 23:27.42 | thalie | whenever kael gets around to finishing the ace2 version :) |
| 23:27.59 | hypetech | cladhaire because the auctioneer team has issues staying up to date |
| 23:28.15 | cladhaire | hypetech: Why? The beta version I'm running right now has no issues |
| 23:28.26 | cladhaire | Just because its not "released" doesn't mean its not working =) |
| 23:29.06 | kergoth | yeah, the current beta works nice |
| 23:29.16 | hypetech | Ya, my beta version works too, it would just be nice to have a decent way of updating it for glitches |
| 23:29.31 | cladhaire | .. so your issue is distribution, not the code. |
| 23:29.39 | hypetech | >.< |
| 23:29.39 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:29.41 | hypetech | yes |
| 23:29.48 | hypetech | but not exactly |
| 23:29.48 | kergoth | wants a rewrite of a huge amount of code just so he can use the updater |
| 23:29.51 | kergoth | idiotic |
| 23:29.53 | Barbanus | Then you dont need to rewrite it in Ace :P |
| 23:29.53 | hypetech | I do have one issue with the new release |
| 23:30.02 | nae|lap | Is downloading the AuctioneerOnly zipfile and unpacking it not decent? |
| 23:30.07 | cladhaire | hypetech: Then report it to their team |
| 23:30.15 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:30.16 | hypetech | fine |
| 23:30.17 | kergoth | #norganna |
| 23:30.18 | hypetech | drop it |
| 23:30.18 | hypetech | lol |
| 23:30.32 | cladhaire | lol =) |
| 23:30.38 | cladhaire | just wanted to better understand :LP |
| 23:30.40 | hypetech | :) |
| 23:30.56 | kergoth | should alter colamachine to send vendor prices as you learn them |
| 23:31.00 | kergoth | not just broadcast |
| 23:31.47 | kergoth | course then you'd want to make it more intelligent, maintaining state about when you last got information from people, so that if you were offline when they learned a new price, you'd still get it next time you see them |
| 23:31.56 | kergoth | but thats getting into the shared db stuff ck wants to do, methinks |
| 23:32.11 | hypetech | anyway to reset AllPlayed so it recognizes that my characters have moved from their old realm to the new one? |
| 23:32.16 | hypetech | it shows them on both right now |
| 23:33.14 | kergoth | hm, spellbinder is nice and light, but qUserKey has a nicer interface |
| 23:33.21 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: I think it's 95% as effective to just do a pull. |
| 23:33.38 | Antiarc|Work | (Which is what ColaAds will do as soon as I get it tested and committed >_>) |
| 23:33.39 | Barbanus | what linux distro would you suggest for a 900 mhz box that is just going to be running a fileserver with samba? |
| 23:33.47 | Barbanus | (offtopic, btw) |
| 23:34.16 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: a pull? you mean each time i login i request a broadcast from everyone out there? thatll involve a lot of spam, lots of which will be duplicated.. |
| 23:34.31 | Silviu- | Barbanus Slack :/ |
| 23:34.32 | CIA-17 | 03laotseu * r25810 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc: AllPlayed: new release version |
| 23:34.39 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: No, a pull, so that every time you have an item that you don't know the price for, you ask for it and cache it when found. |
| 23:34.48 | nae|lap | Barbanus: debian |
| 23:34.54 | Antiarc|Work | Other people that observe the reply also get that info and cache it. |
| 23:35.03 | Silviu- | Barbanus i find it verry stable and low resource using |
| 23:35.19 | kenlyric|home | so does colamachine get prices from other places, or just vendors? |
| 23:35.24 | Antiarc|Work | Just vendors |
| 23:35.27 | Barbanus | nae|lap, I was thinking ubuntu, but might be a little overkill |
| 23:35.27 | Antiarc|Work | And its internal DB |
| 23:35.30 | nae|lap | any distro can be as stable as the next and use the same amount of resources |
| 23:35.44 | Antiarc|Work | I've used Fedora with great success, and it's very userfriendly. |
| 23:35.46 | *** join/#wowace tardmrr__ (n=tardmr@ip68-227-128-41.br.br.cox.net) |
| 23:35.51 | nae|lap | yes, ubuntu, if you choose to install X / any DE will be overkill |
| 23:36.07 | nae|lap | For a server you don't need a GUI |
| 23:36.08 | kergoth | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5954/monkeybuddylite/ is sad |
| 23:36.30 | sergio | gah guild position spam |
| 23:36.34 | nae|lap | Anyway, bed for me now. nite nite |
| 23:36.44 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: ahh slick. not perfect of course, since teh person with that info might be offline at the moment, but still nice |
| 23:36.57 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: They might, but you don't need 100% coverage. |
| 23:37.00 | Barbanus | kergoth, what .. the ... fuck? |
| 23:37.04 | *** join/#wowace MackaNgrr (n=apa@s202h167o3tcm11.dyn.tyfon.se) |
| 23:37.08 | Antiarc|Work | It's a nice-to-have, not a mission-critical. |
| 23:37.19 | MackaNgrr | name a mass mail addon quick please :) |
| 23:37.20 | Antiarc|Work | And if I pick up an item and nobody has price info for it, then I'll get that price info next time I hit a vendor. |
| 23:37.36 | Antiarc|Work | Then I have the info and can respond to pull requests. |
| 23:38.52 | *** part/#wowace MackaNgrr (n=apa@s202h167o3tcm11.dyn.tyfon.se) |
| 23:39.21 | kenlyric|home | I guess we didn't name it fast enough. |
| 23:39.28 | Antiarc|Work | We were not prepared. |
| 23:41.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:42.13 | *** part/#wowace Tovort (i=patrick@xdsl-81-173-170-161.netcologne.de) |
| 23:42.32 | Antiarc|Work | I have drycoded three addons today and want to go home and test :( |
| 23:42.45 | groll | hmm my hotspot button for cartographer is gone hmmm |
| 23:43.43 | CIA-17 | 03galeni * r25811 10HotMan/HotMan.lua: HotMan: Preliminary priest support |
| 23:44.09 | *** join/#wowace Feldia (i=Feldia@216.167.254.39) |
| 23:45.34 | Barbanus | Antiarc|Work, lol good use of work time :P |
| 23:45.55 | Antiarc|Work | I'm doing testing, and have time between tests. It's not a lot of code. Just three quick little one-offs |
| 23:45.56 | Barbanus | does garbagefu plugin to colamachine? |
| 23:46.05 | Barbanus | hehe |
| 23:46.24 | Antiarc|Work | ColaAds is 82 lines of well-formatted code, including comments. |
| 23:46.28 | Antiarc|Work | So yeah. |
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| 23:48.02 | vid` | anyone have issues where the capping bars dont show? |
| 23:48.06 | vid` | in world pvp? |
| 23:48.11 | vid` | like in hellfire peninsula etc |
| 23:48.21 | vid` | i see the objectives up top that show how many are controlled |
| 23:48.36 | vid` | but i dont get the bar showing that the objective is being capped when i stand on the flag |
| 23:48.40 | vid` | ocb problem? |
| 23:48.41 | vid` | maybe |
| 23:49.38 | Barbanus | you mean the bar that shows up under the minimap? |
| 23:50.02 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r25812 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: update underbog notes |
| 23:50.17 | vid` | shmm maybe |
| 23:50.18 | vid` | i dunno |
| 23:50.20 | vid` | i use simpleminimap |
| 23:50.25 | vid` | maybe thats why i dont see the bar"? |
| 23:50.31 | vid` | cause the map is @ bottom of my UI? :P |
| 23:50.39 | Antiarc|Work | That'd do it |
| 23:50.42 | vid` | im used to WPL |
| 23:50.49 | vid` | where the bar was @ top etc |
| 23:50.53 | vid` | did they change it for BC>? |
| 23:51.22 | kergoth | i hope jerry does that addon he suggested that was like tankpoints/healpoints but generic |
| 23:51.26 | kergoth | i want that badly |
| 23:51.33 | kergoth | just plug AEP into it |
| 23:51.46 | Antiarc|Work | I'm working on an addon like that, kinda. |
| 23:52.09 | Barbanus | wtb tankpoints / healpoints mod |
| 23:52.09 | Antiarc|Work | Calculation of the difference in average sustained DPS between two pieces of gear given your current gear. |
| 23:52.23 | kergoth | nifty |
| 23:52.25 | Thrae | Barbanus: KLHThreatMeter |
| 23:52.40 | vid` | hmm |
| 23:52.43 | vid` | is that the 'mover' frames ? |
| 23:52.46 | vid` | in simpleminimap |
| 23:52.48 | vid` | i had that idsabled |
| 23:52.49 | kergoth | still, you'd think itd be easy to provide a mechanism for the user to input weights/factors for each element in the points calculation |
| 23:52.51 | vid` | maybe thats why |
| 23:53.24 | Feldia | does anyone know of a mod that will automatically use the correct mount for me, based on where I am |
| 23:53.26 | Antiarc|Work | Well, the problem is that, say, 1% hit isn't as valuable at some gear points as it is at others. |
| 23:53.33 | Feldia | like bug in aq, tiger in azeroth, and flying in outland |
| 23:53.37 | Antiarc|Work | The value of a stat tends to shift based on your other stats |
| 23:54.13 | CIA-17 | 03derkyle * r25813 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules/ChatLangButton.lua): |
| 23:54.14 | CIA-17 | Prat: |
| 23:54.14 | CIA-17 | - Added: (Derkyle) ChatLangButton module to allow users to add the dialog button to change in game languages. |
| 23:54.16 | Antiarc|Work | Feldia: /cast bug; /cast flying; /cast tiger |
| 23:54.25 | Antiarc|Work | Replacing the bug/flying/tiger with your actual mount item names. |
| 23:54.34 | snurre- | man, i hope they soon make flying mount usable in azeroth |
| 23:54.39 | Antiarc|Work | They won't |
| 23:54.55 | Antiarc|Work | Azeroth's geometry wasn't build to be able to support people going whereever they want |
| 23:54.57 | groll | nope that will never heppen |
| 23:54.57 | snurre- | as a regular mount, i mean |
| 23:54.59 | groll | happen |
| 23:55.00 | snurre- | not flying |
| 23:55.02 | Antiarc|Work | Stormwind uses a lot of imposters, for example. |
| 23:55.08 | Barbanus | Thrae, ktm shows you what "tank points" your items are? like better tanking gear has more points? .. I don't think so... |
| 23:55.10 | snurre- | that's not what i mean! |
| 23:55.16 | snurre- | it already has a flying and a riding state |
| 23:55.17 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: which is why you'd have a means for the user to input the factor/weight for hit %. |
| 23:55.27 | kergoth | for some, the factor would be 0, effectivly removing it from teh calculation |
| 23:55.27 | snurre- | it should be usable as a riding mount in azeroth |
| 23:55.34 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: I mean for the same user. |
| 23:55.34 | fatbrain | Silviu-: cycircled, you using a default look? |
| 23:55.41 | Antiarc|Work | The value of hit changes with your crit and AP. |
| 23:55.44 | groll | anyone know how to turn of the recive messagge in cartogrpaher so i dont see it in the chat? |
| 23:55.49 | Adirelle | ~seen kodewulf |
| 23:56.09 | purl | kodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-39-132.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 12h 58m 51s ago, saying: 'ckknight: wish list updated. :)'. |
| 23:56.09 | Antiarc|Work | As do the values of your crit and AP with hit. |
| 23:56.09 | Barbanus | Stormwind is screwed up .. lol |
| 23:56.09 | Barbanus | 1/2 the buildings are fake |
| 23:56.11 | Antiarc|Work | That's what my mod is trying to do, effectively - calculate the relative values of a stat given your current stats. |
| 23:56.11 | kergoth | well, that just increases the complexity of the formula. the user input would likely be the same |
| 23:56.21 | Antiarc|Work | You could certainly allow the user to linearly weight a stat |
| 23:56.29 | Barbanus | stormwind is based on a movie set |
| 23:56.34 | Antiarc|Work | Though I'm not sure why you'd want to do that, since that'd kinda break the calculations. |
| 23:56.36 | Silviu- | fatbrain Onyx:Square Gloss |
| 23:56.41 | fatbrain | Silviu-: thanks. |
| 23:56.44 | Antiarc|Work | Well, every class has different mechanics :P |
| 23:57.02 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r25814 10/branches/Cartographer_Quests/: Created folder remotely |
| 23:57.10 | kergoth | that doesnt mean you need a seperate addon for it, just make the formula a string of lua code that gets loadstring()'d |
| 23:57.14 | kergoth | ta da |
| 23:57.15 | Barbanus | 1 word. hybrids |
| 23:57.18 | Barbanus | good luck! :P |
| 23:57.29 | Antiarc|Work | Even classes with similar mechanics have different weightings for stats, and even the same class with different specs has different mechanics |
| 23:57.31 | kergoth | and have a list of predone formulas |
| 23:57.48 | groll | boohooo no info on how to turn the message off in cartographer :( |
| 23:57.50 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07filters * r25815 10Cartographer_Quests/: Created folder remotely |
| 23:58.03 | Barbanus | You'd need 3 sets of calculations for druids :) |
| 23:58.16 | Feldia | Antiarc|Work: ty, I wasn't aware that still worked |
| 23:58.20 | groll | Adirelle i see ur doing cartographer stuff so you might know perhaps? :D |
| 23:58.21 | Barbanus | well, 4, if you wanted to include a "hybrid" |
| 23:59.13 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r25816 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:59.13 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:59.13 | CIA-17 | - Babble-Zone-2.2 : Updated locals koKR |
| 23:59.13 | CIA-17 | - Babble-Ore-2.2 : Updated locals koKR |
| 23:59.22 | Barbanus | groll, what message? |
| 23:59.25 | Adirelle | grol: looks in "notes" submenu |
| 23:59.29 | kergoth | is it just me, or is drdamage's tooltip -incredibly- ugly? |
| 23:59.32 | Adirelle | Barbanus: note receiving message I tihnk |
| 23:59.42 | groll | Adirelle hmm thought i did :P will check again |
| 23:59.42 | kergoth | i like how theorycraft uses the same colors as the original tooltip info, myself |
| 23:59.54 | Adirelle | grol: there should be a "show notification" option |
