irclog2html for #wowace on 20070120

00:00.16art3missorry i dont fall into the so serious my anus hurts category
00:00.27art3misill try harder next time
00:00.55ckknightart3mis: that's a joke, right?
00:00.58TainI'm used to the poor attempts at humor, it's just the spam really.
00:01.11kenlyricis it an artificial anus?
00:01.29ckknightart3mis: the LifePack deal
00:01.29TainIt is just a courtesy thing, when there's more than a few lines we would rather have people post a link.
00:01.39ckknightTain's right
00:02.00art3misyes it is
00:02.06art3misbbspot is satire news
00:02.53TainSo I was doing research today on putting together a HTPC.  I thought it would actually be cheaper than buying off the shelf stuff.  Hell no.  
00:03.18ckknightHTPC?
00:03.42TainHome theater PC.  Media PC.
00:03.42banditronhome theatre pc!
00:03.51banditronmine's british.
00:03.53TainTo do PVR duty and host video.
00:04.02kenlyriche doesn't want to call it a media pc because that's what microsoft calls it.
00:04.05_neuron_is there any working alternative to superinspect?
00:04.22kenlyricand, uh, pc's already do media :)
00:04.32banditronbut hooked up to your tv
00:04.38banditronw/ decoder and dvr
00:05.09dalvarezhm
00:05.15Ominouswhat is wrong with {{Addon Infobox|FuBar_RogueTimerFu|X-Wiki-BugTracker=[[http://code.google.com/p/wow-ominous]]}}?
00:05.43pastamancerI'm going to guess that [[foo]] should be [foo]
00:06.01pastamancerthat's not an internal wiki link
00:06.04TainMy ReplayTV isn't working right, and it's aged anyway.  So I was looking at getting new.  I think I'll just grab a dual tuner Tivo and wait for the Slingcatcher.
00:06.16Ominousit dosent have to be does it?
00:06.48OminousX-Wiki-BugTracker This field can take raw wiki-code. This info will be appended in the Bugtracker field of the infobox. Useful if you want to link something besides a WoWI Portal
00:06.48OminousRetrieved from "http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Metadata"
00:07.28pastamancerand [[foo]] means you're asking for an internal wiki page
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00:08.40Ominousstill dosent work
00:08.56pastamancerwell, that was my guess
00:09.00pastamancergood luck
00:09.12deltronholy fuck
00:09.13Ominousbah ill edit the toc manually :P
00:09.14deltronhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=Mkhx7mkMXa8
00:09.16pastamanceror you could just stick it directly in your toc
00:09.25Ominous^^
00:09.35pastamancerlol
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00:11.18vhaarrhttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_frm/thread/fee9843e3601dd42/8b58bd803f7d0ec8#8b58bd803f7d0ec8
00:11.38*** join/#wowace Miles|zzz (i=Miles@174-228.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net)
00:11.40vhaarrFor some reason I just found that slightly amusing.
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00:12.21godsynhi
00:13.11ckknighthey, guy
00:13.20godsynhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3007.0 , anyone LUA savvy mind taking a glance and seeing what is keeping it (CharacterInfo) from working w/the latest patch?
00:13.28KarlThePaganvhaarr, deja-vu!
00:13.39vhaarro_O
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00:14.12godsynand does anyone here play a mage?
00:14.12KarlThePagansomeone mail quu so we can get him to flame the Ace project and spread crap about us!
00:14.28ckknightKarlThePagan: ?
00:14.37godsynO_o
00:14.38KarlThePagan;) vhaarr's pastie
00:14.44godsynoh
00:15.19ckknightwho is quu?
00:15.31godsynthats the auctioneer guy, right?
00:15.32KarlThePaganDecursive
00:15.35godsynah
00:16.03godsynnorgeena (or something to that effect) is auctioneer, my mistake.
00:16.14Ominous~seen nadas
00:16.33purlnadas is currently on #wowace (1d 4h 40m 8s), last said: 'US allowed both clients to connect due to problems'.
00:16.47ckknightnorganna's cool
00:17.10KarlThePaganand auctioneer is GPL anyways ;)
00:17.19KarlThePaganI guess those 2 observations are complimentary
00:17.20QuetziQuu did spell alert iirc
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00:18.04KarlThePaganI really don't expect Quu to do anything rash... it's just the deja-vu of "here's a non-ace mod with ace bindings"
00:18.29Ominoushow often does the toc update script run?
00:18.48KarlThePaganand things like "SlashCmdList["DECURSIVESKSHOW"] = function" lead me to believe that it's not terribly different from the last time this happened
00:19.42bnovcdoes anyone know if there is an in-game slash command to place a raid target icon
00:19.47KarlThePaganI won't be an ass and recommend that that commit be stricken... but I wouldn't be shocked if it were
00:19.47godsynoh, since your here ck.. i don't have any of the info here... so this is just a shot in the dark.. Using the latest revision, and only the coords/foglight/groupcolor/zoneinfo modules.. Occaisionally after looking @ map in combat, I have to at-z to get my UI back... any clues?
00:20.03godsyn*alt
00:20.08nae|laphm. Does anyone know of an automagic friends-list sharer? I can't seem to get it working with AuldLangSyne
00:20.28Quetziit wasn't him that committed, it was archarodim
00:20.41KarlThePaganQuetzi, that is the root of the contraversy
00:20.54Koaschtenbnovc not sure, but you can do key-binds for each icon
00:21.03KarlThePaganif an addon author wants to move to ace that's good /cheer cncfan etc
00:21.11bnovcKoaschten: oh really? is that in key bindings menu by default?
00:21.19bnovc(i dont have WoW on this computer right now)
00:22.18Koaschtenand i dont have a working server atm -.- my whole realmpool is down ^^
00:22.22KarlThePaganeven if it's not the best code in the world if it's your code and it works reasonably well I'm sure it's not a problem comitting
00:22.34XuerianAhhhh.... A non-blurry 19" monitor. <3
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00:22.52nae|lapHm. Is there a way for AuldLangSyne to not use profiles? I want every character to have the same friends' list
00:22.59KarlThePagani had a .32 dot-pitch monitor for a long time
00:23.04KarlThePaganit probably didn't help my vision
00:23.46XuerianDon't know if mine was a special size.... worn down to the point where I had to work in the center of it after six years >.>
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00:24.44XuerianThat and running my fingers over it to catch the sparks arcing over the glass when it was first turned on was fun :3
00:26.05KarlThePaganpriest is 4 dps
00:26.06KarlThePaganhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxg0zZZxhgzMpRhtVo
00:26.31Mikmaace2 decursive
00:26.37Mikmaain't that like.. detox :D
00:26.42KarlThePagankek
00:27.14IndustrialAnyone play EU/Daggerspine/Horde?
00:27.38IndustrialMikma: i got a siamese kitty minipet :D
00:27.54MikmaIndustrial: yeah, rare horde-only kill :)
00:28.08nae|lapIs there a working version of BuddySync?
00:28.17Industrialdropped from Cookie in Deadmines
00:28.25Industrialalso got the rod and staff :P
00:28.32Industrialwand*
00:28.36Mikmaoh hmm.
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00:28.45godsynnae|lap : not to my knowledge. There wasa  request for it some tme back.. but it faded into the nether.
00:28.49Mikmathere's a rare kill in silverpine too
00:28.50godsyn*time
00:28.54Industrialk
00:29.06nae|lapgodsyn: okay
00:29.24IndustrialMikma: you have several 60's why arent you playing in outland? (just curious)
00:29.31godsynnae|lap : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3510.0 is the last post requesting... December 17, 2006, 03:57:59 am »
00:29.34Industrialalmost 20 btw
00:29.45MikmaIndustrial: coz i am playing a new character?`
00:29.54godsynshammy or pally?
00:30.03IndustrialIf i had a 60 i wouldnt be poking around in ghostlands
00:30.05Mikmadraemmy
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00:30.16godsynall new chars are shammy or pally and jewlcrafters.
00:30.27BarbanusMikma, draino shaman? :P
00:30.30Industrialim be priest and herbalist/enchanter
00:30.58godsynIndustrial : said chat maid in the past few days?
00:31.03godsyn*chat = char
00:31.22MikmaBarbanus: draemmy :D
00:31.31Mikmagodsyn: shaman and alch/herb :)
00:32.15godsynMikma : not jewl? wow.. your a rare specimen. :p
00:32.31Mikmagodsyn: everyone else is jewelcrafter, so i'm making potions :D
00:32.51godsynMikma : have you seen the 300+ pots?
00:32.57Mikmagodsyn: nope
00:34.17NightHawkTheSaneI have, i rather like them.
00:34.21godsynMikma : sick, simply sick. Made up a bunch for a MC run a friends guild was doing. Those, in addidtion to the newly geared 60-62s they shaved over an hour off their run.
00:34.37NightHawkTheSanewait, someone actually did mc.. after the expansion? o_0
00:35.10godsynNightHawkTheSane : thats what I said... Appearently they HAD to go though.. the GM was pitching a fit...
00:35.26NightHawkTheSaneyeesh, what was the GM some whiny mage who wanted his ToEP? :P
00:35.35NightHawkTheSane(which is probably the only thing in MC still worth a damn)
00:35.37godsyn\
00:36.06godsynNo clue, but there are quest rewards that come close, if not beat TEOP @ 62.
00:36.13NightHawkTheSaneNo offense intended, btw, just boggles my mind, really.
00:36.31NightHawkTheSaneYeah, definitely. Hell by 65 you can get 2-3 of em
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00:37.04snurrewhen youre done with terrokar you can have up to 4 activation trinkets with passive bonus
00:37.23godsynyap :) No clue.. I suppose there are ppl w/out TBC. but sadly the GM will have to realize they will have to do without...
00:37.40snurrekinda nice tho, theyre all slightly different and it offers hybrids a way to get trinkets for different roles
00:37.57godsynsnurre : share the same cooldown?
00:38.00KarlThePaganI LOVE dual-trinketing
00:38.02NightHawkTheSanesnurre: yeah. Though ultimately I think most people will pick the 2 they like the best and just use those
00:38.11snurreonly like normal.. can only have one running at any one time
00:38.16KarlThePagangodsyn, 15s shared cool yea... you can't double-trinket
00:38.20snurrebut separate 1.5/2min cds
00:38.22KarlThePaganyea
00:38.24NightHawkTheSaneyou can chain-trinket though :)
00:38.26KarlThePagansome 60 sec
00:38.37KarlThePaganit almost made smiting barable
00:38.37NightHawkTheSaneand yeah, with the short cooldowns, they're up near constantly really
00:38.49KarlThePaganbut alas i'm shadow now
00:38.54snurreNightHawkTheSane: yeah, i just sold the +hit and +crit versions on my lock
00:38.57snurregot the two +dmg ones
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00:39.14Heriosmite = leet holy dps imo
00:39.25KarlThePaganHerio, pre-2.0 yes
00:39.25godsynbleh. I'll stick w/raw damage. No point in activating a GCD to up the damage 1k, when I can du an attack for 2k. *shrug*
00:39.35snurrei just tried out Seed of Corruption a few times before logging.. OMFG i love it! :D
00:39.51KarlThePaganunfortunately now mages, warlocks, rogues and hunters have way more dps out put so holy dmg is kinda mreh
00:40.11KarlThePaganHerio, I had 521 +dmg as a smiter before I gave up and switched to shadow
00:40.14nae|lapand druids
00:40.17KarlThePagan2200 crits
00:40.35snurrehm, i think ill buy the epic flying mount tomorrow
00:40.44godsynlocks and hunters need to have their damage scaled down a hair, and rogues aren't keeping up w/mages too well, from what i've seen.
00:40.45KarlThePagannae|lap, OMG YES moonkin... druids have so many incentives to be casters it makes me puke
00:40.58godsyn<3 oomkin
00:41.03KarlThePagangodsyn, well that means they won't totally destroy me so that's good
00:41.11KarlThePaganyea check this out... like 35% crit with moonfire
00:41.12nae|lapKarlThePagan: I meant feral ;)
00:41.20KarlThePaganso what does a crit as a moonkin give you?
00:41.27XuerianKarlThePagan: And now less incentives to be feral. Why do they hate us so?
00:41.27nae|lapBut indeed there are some nice moonkin items :)
00:41.51KarlThePaganXuerian, let me introduce you to my friend MANGEL
00:41.52godsynXuerian : You bathe too little and lick your own butt...
00:42.05KarlThePaganmangle > me
00:42.19Xueriangodsyn: I proudly lick more than my own posterior, thanks
00:42.20KarlThePagancorrection... mangle plus 3/5 rank 13 armor > me
00:42.42XuerianKarlThePagan: I haven't actually used mangle yet....  <.<
00:42.52KarlThePagank ... kindly stfu about feral then
00:42.54KarlThePagan;)
00:43.00KarlThePaganit owns me bigtime
00:43.02godsynXuerian : honestly I'd prefer to have an ass licking teddy tank over a prot warrior in the new 5mans.
00:43.12vid`hey switching from wardrobe2 to closetgnome. I really just need closetgnome and closetgnome_mount as a mage right?
00:43.19XuerianBut I AM feral =(
00:43.26XuerianXD
00:43.27KarlThePagan:( Xuerian
00:43.32XuerianHaha, godsyn.
00:43.39godsynvid` : all i use...
00:43.42KarlThePaganseriously get the movement speed bonus and own some priests
00:43.50KarlThePaganmake them /wrist and then laugh as you heal yourself
00:43.57vid`and cooldowncount does NOT work with autobar atm right?
00:44.47KarlThePaganso anywas.. the moonkin rant
00:44.48XuerianKarlThePagan: I should do that :P... Haven't really played since 2.0 hit.
00:44.48vid`cause im using omnicc and heard cooldowncount has some good stuff in it
00:44.48godsynvid` : no clue still using omniCC here.
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00:44.49KarlThePaganXuerian, oh wow yea feral rules... freaking ... horde called Vancent on Kil'jaeden you should check him out
00:44.54vid`oh wow decursive is on svn heh
00:44.56KarlThePaganI went smiting outside orgrimar (killing flagged duelers)
00:45.09KarlThePaganI can escape from any class that chases me except for 2
00:45.13KarlThePaganmaybe 3
00:45.18KarlThePagan1) ap/trinket mages
00:45.29KarlThePagan2) rogues who have PERFECT stunlocks
00:45.31KarlThePagan3) vancent
00:45.50XuerianLol.
00:45.55godsynyou can run from frost mages?
00:45.56KarlThePagananything else I can kite, dot, heal, fear then trinket smite down
00:46.00KarlThePagangodsyn, dispel'd
00:46.13XuerianWell very nice, I suppose I should stop bitching about how hard I'm getting nerfed If I'm not playing, ey? XD
00:46.25KarlThePagan;)
00:46.31godsyn1sec frostbolt + rangenove buys me some time :)
00:46.47KarlThePagangodsyn, good point... I should find a pvp forstmage then ;)
00:47.19godsynwe're rare. I pvp'd till TBC... i prolly won't bother again till 70.
00:48.09KarlThePaganyea
00:48.26KarlThePagansmite priests are very rare also
00:48.30KarlThePaganI think I was the only serious one left on KJ
00:48.40KarlThePaganit's SO DAMN FUN in AV/AB
00:48.45godsynso are my furry friends the oomkins... I want mroe oomkins.
00:48.47godsyn*more
00:48.48BarbanusKarlThePagan, whats your char name?
00:48.52KarlThePaganBarbanus, Basic
00:49.22Barbanushmmm cant say I remember you from KJ :P
00:49.30Barbanusbut I have a bad memory
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00:49.49KarlThePaganhorde/ally?
00:49.59Barbanusally
00:50.09KarlThePagantho I started a year late
00:50.14KarlThePaganso you probably didn't instance with me
00:50.17BarbanusI play a paladin Barbanus, and a rogue Largiddle
00:50.26KarlThePaganyea no clue
00:50.27Barbanushmmm, not sure when I transfered from KJ to Korgath
00:50.34KarlThePaganoh korgah
00:50.42KarlThePaganyea I was just hitting 60 when korgath came up
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00:50.50Barbanusahhh
00:51.06godsyngone, take care.
00:51.08godsyn+++
00:51.09KarlThePagannn
00:51.51KarlThePaganwell yea moonkin - 3 second 100% +dmg spell... then you moonfire and get -.5 cast time on that next spell... and 2x crits...AND all your +dmg abilities are in ONE tree
00:51.58KarlThePagansmiting... just doesn't compare
00:52.21KarlThePaganexcept that the priest upper-end holy tree is weak enough that noone cares you don't take it
00:52.57KarlThePaganso grats... you're mediocre dps, mediocre healing in a mediocre class. Blizzard hates you
00:53.00KarlThePaganand that's why I'm shadow
00:53.48ckknight<PROTECTED>
00:53.52KarlThePaganimo yes
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00:54.17cynyri thought the best healing class has and is pallies?
00:54.19KarlThePaganhell i can chain assist the MT and throw a shield on him when his health is low just fine
00:54.31KarlThePagancynyr, in pvp omg yes
00:54.37KarlThePaganpossibly also in pve
00:54.46KarlThePaganbut trees... wow
00:55.05cynyrit's a lot of HOT tho...
00:55.23KarlThePaganswiftmend
00:55.25KarlThePagan;)
00:55.40KarlThePaganhot is all you really need anymore with swiftmend, lifebloom
00:55.43cynyrahh forgot that.. my druid is only lvl 40
00:56.03KarlThePaganif the tank takes some burst damage you have NS rejuv, siwftmend
00:56.06cynyrhow effeciant is swiftmend
00:56.22KarlThePagannot sure really
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00:57.53KarlThePaganI trust I've communicated my priest emo effectively... time to test my closetgnome mucking about
01:01.18ckknightI'll be glad when I'm done work
01:01.23ckknightI'll finally code some
01:01.30ckknightdo some Cartographer coding
01:01.38ckknightfix up some direly needed bugs
01:01.57ckknightetc.
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01:02.57ckknightHenge?
01:03.50BarbanusHenge is abandonware I think
01:03.57Barbanusit never really got all of the modules done
01:03.57Industrial~seen Thekarn
01:04.18purlthekarn <n=thekarn@cpc3-glfd1-0-0-cust609.glfd.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21h 38m 11s ago, saying: 'or email the group to get a new password'.
01:04.18BarbanusPaladin one is def incomplete
01:04.19Smeltn`does it work though?
01:04.28Industrialaw :(
01:04.30BarbanusSmeltn`, no, it has a heal button .. thats it
01:04.34Smeltn`haha
01:04.37Smeltn`thanks
01:04.47Smeltn`what about Cryolysis
01:04.54Smeltn`anyone pick it up and work on it?
01:04.54BarbanusNo idea
01:05.07Smeltn`alrighty... thanks so much
01:05.58KarlThePaganvhaarr, I have a proof-of-concept vararg WearSet tested
01:06.39KarlThePagancaveats: queuedSet (for combat) won't work and only events for the last set listed are fired
01:07.00KarlThePaganinterested in your thoughts for how it should behave on those 2 points
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01:07.25KarlThePagancombat should of course "work" but how to do it is the question ;)
01:07.34KarlThePaganI'd have to add another cache table
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01:10.48vid`oneview still broke? :\
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01:13.40ravagernlag`_ would it be possible to use a texture for a watchdogtag?
01:13.59ag`a texture?
01:14.25ravagernllike in this shot
01:14.27ravagernlhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full6760.jpg
01:14.34ckknightvid`: works for me
01:14.39ravagernlits discord, but the setup is just like aguf
01:15.07ravagernlsee the classicons there?
01:15.49ckknighthrm
01:15.56ag`class icons is doable but not through watchdog tags
01:15.58ckknightravagernl: I prefer coloring the health bars by class
01:16.09ravagernlI know, I do that too
01:16.31Smeltn`same ck
01:16.35Smeltn`I love my health by class
01:16.42ckknightyes, very cool
01:16.44Smeltn`but I also used to use charcoal for a LOOONGGG time
01:16.51AmadeoBantoBars ftw
01:16.52Smeltn`and I loved having the class icon in there also
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01:17.13ag`Did any other addon steal that idea yet? :)
01:17.21ag`I don't even remember if I stole it from somewhere
01:17.39ckknightlol
01:17.40AmadeoI think someone mentioned it here
01:17.43AmadeoIt was a great idea
01:17.43ravagernlshame on you, use the steel texture ^^
01:17.50AmadeoSteel is all hype!
01:17.50ag`most just use a string or an icon
01:17.53AmadeoIt's all about BantoBars
01:18.02ravagernlyes and its my texture :D
01:18.25ag`Need sleep now, my server is down
01:18.32ravagernlok :)
01:18.42ag`bg3/eu = win
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01:18.50ag`it always dies
01:19.04SquishemHardI have a complaint! Or question!
01:19.09SquishemHardI love you guys
01:19.22SquishemHardumm, who broke bartender :(
01:19.37ravagernl? broken? its not broken
01:19.43ag`look at the log and roll back if you need to
01:19.46ag`easy
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01:21.09AmadeoFedora 6 Live CD is pretty cool, loads in RAM if you have 1GB+
01:21.11ag`depends on what you use
01:21.20ag`with SVN you specify which revision you want to use
01:21.33ag`if you use wowace/files you smply download an earlier file
01:21.45SquishemHardahh, i cant seem ahh
01:21.47ag`I have to sleep now though so I can't explain further this second :)
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01:21.51ag`gl with it
01:21.55SquishemHardthanks
01:22.07NightHawkTheSanefiles.wowace.net/ModName/
01:22.09NightHawkTheSanehas archived versions
01:22.30Amadeobrb
01:27.13ravagernlCan anyone commit a patch by phanx into aguf, from topic http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4195.0, its for druid manabar bug
01:27.37ravagernlGetting tired of editing the file around, heh
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01:28.37ravagernlits actually two fixes
01:32.25kergothfinally
01:32.26kergoththank god
01:32.33kergoththe bug that kept me here till 2am last night is fixed
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01:33.06IndustrialMikma: ding 20
01:33.07Industrial:D
01:33.11Industrialmdin flay!
01:33.30kergothgrats
01:33.44kergothi need to get home to level my rogue :)
01:34.51kergothanyone using current svn of kEnergy?
01:34.53kergothcurious if anyone can repro any problems with the tick time
01:34.58cynyrnope.. what does it do?
01:35.31kergothits just an energy ticker, nothing fancy, though it does maintain a running average to try to compensate for latency rather than just maintaining a fixed 2 second tick
01:36.39ThraeIt's fun to code an addon and never debug it yourself!
01:37.26Garoungood call on Gnome Thrae
01:37.34Garounwish I would have used it long ago :P
01:38.16ThraeGaroun: What?
01:38.36ravagernlgoodnight people
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01:43.03Funkeh`decursive on svn now
01:43.05Funkeh`wow
01:43.07ckknight~hypnotoad
01:43.08purlAll glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP.
01:43.44kergoth~emulate fry
01:43.46purlPeople said I was dumb, but I proved them.
01:44.00Industriallol
01:44.39Industrial*makes the hypnotoad sound*
01:44.50IndustrialAnyone play on EU/Daggerspine/Horde ?
01:45.12kergoth~emulate fry
01:45.14purlMy folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope?
01:45.27Industriallol
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01:52.01cynyrAntiarc: ping
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01:55.52Smeltn`ag you still here?
01:56.25kergoth~remulate
01:56.26purlHoney, you got real ugly.
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02:00.12GarounThrae: Closetgnome
02:00.43Garounwhen I asked you teh other day about a wardrobe style mod
02:00.50ThorgardSooo.. Baggins.
02:02.33kergothheh, thats cute.  rici's way of grabbing the right side of a : seperated line doesnt capture the entire right side, the way i'd have done it
02:02.37kergoths:sub(s:match":()")
02:04.01Industrialhehe im making my own guild
02:04.07IndustrialRoyal Corpse Corpse
02:04.12Industrialtabard will be pimp.
02:04.41Industrialer, Corpse Corps.
02:05.22Industrialit will just have me in it til 60 :p
02:06.16Hjalteckknight: I don't see Mana Tombs anywhere in Cartographer. Plans to add it in? :)
02:06.32ckknightyou add it
02:06.42nae|lapIndustrial: What is Royal about it?
02:06.54ckknightthe script to get the minimap textures is in the Cartographer/scripts folder
02:07.07ckknightjust find the name of the minimap and add it
02:07.46Industrialthat im blood elf :P
02:09.47nae|laphm
02:09.51nae|lapWhy not call it Regal
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02:10.09Industrialcause i already have 9 people, and I wanted Corpse Corpse for a long time >_>
02:10.16IndustrialCorps*
02:11.01nae|lapok
02:11.17Industrial(its a group of engineered supernatural soldiers in an anime, Blood+)
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02:11.22nae|lapoki
02:12.10Smeltn`I have a question about aguf maybe someone can answer
02:12.30Smeltn`the names and class/race/sex are not showing all the way
02:12.40Smeltn`is there a way to extend that text to fill the bar if needed?
02:14.32Kaelten-LaptopProxy efficiency (HIT [kB/sec] / DIRECT [kB/sec]):                factor   0.96
02:21.48BarbanusKaelten-Laptop, I dont know if that is good or bad
02:24.49[Wobin]~framexml
02:24.59purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip
02:25.35[Wobin]hm
02:25.38[Wobin]do we need the beta?
02:25.52[Wobin]if we have the expansion?
02:26.50Kaelten-Laptopme either :P
02:27.53OvrLrd-Qgrrr, my UI normally runs around 45 megs, but it hit my limit at 64 and GC wont lower it any :(
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02:37.13Diabolic-Destinyhttp://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/17/multiple-announcments-today.aspx
02:37.29Diabolic-Destinywow microsoft is really trying to push legitamate purchases of Vista
02:38.09[Wobin]I've sort of reverted to legitamate purchases of windows now
02:38.09ckknightlegitimate
02:38.17Diabolic-Destinyyes sorry the spelling was off
02:38.23[Wobin]it's too much effort to hack
02:38.28[Wobin]ta knight
02:38.29Diabolic-DestinyIunno, i've been pirating since like the 90's
02:38.43Diabolic-Destinykinda hard to just start paying :p
02:38.55[Wobin]Yeah, same. but then you get a hold of a group license =P
02:38.59[Wobin]and abuse that to no end
02:39.15[Wobin]it's much easier saying "Oh I rebuilt this box, so I need you to reauthenticate it"
02:39.19Diabolic-Destinyfor licenses i just steal em from school
02:39.34[Wobin]oh that's what I mean by legitimate
02:39.38Diabolic-Destinylol
02:39.48Diabolic-Destinyi download it off the net and just use a legite serial
02:39.50Diabolic-Destinysomewhere else
02:39.51[Wobin]The software I haven't 'bought' since the start =)
02:39.58Diabolic-Destinyi dont buy software games
02:40.02Diabolic-Destinyonly game i actually bought was WoW
02:40.09[Wobin]even then, I don't think I've bought WinXP
02:40.12Diabolic-Destinyand starcraft
02:40.18[Wobin]apart from built into OEM
02:40.48kenlyricsigh.
02:41.09Diabolic-Destinyhey wobin you know where i can get a laptop
02:41.13Diabolic-Destinyw/o anything preinstalled?
02:41.18[Wobin]ooh
02:41.20[Wobin]That's tough
02:41.24kenlyric<PROTECTED>
02:41.24Diabolic-Destinyi know :S
02:41.40[Wobin]Most of the retailers of laptops don't build them
02:41.44[Wobin]so they come presetup
02:42.32Kaelten-LaptopDiabolic-Destiny: just build your own laptop
02:42.47[Wobin]laptop parts aren't as easy to get
02:43.17Kaelten-Laptophrm, depends on what you want, but they aren't as hard as they used to be
02:44.07Diabolic-Destinyi dunno how to build a laptop
02:44.09Diabolic-Destinycomputer maybe
02:44.13Diabolic-Destinylaptop hell no..
02:44.20kenlyricarrrrg... what they heck is try mess with my shaftshift bar during combat.
02:44.23Kaelten-Laptopits easier to build a laptop as far as assembly
02:45.29Kaelten-Laptophttp://legitreviews.com
02:46.10Kaelten-Laptoptheir forums are good
02:47.51Diabolic-Destinyiuno i may just buy a dell and just reload xp on it
02:47.52Diabolic-Destinyor something
02:48.03Diabolic-Destinybut is there a way to purchase it without a version of XP
02:48.12Diabolic-Destinyid rather save the 50-70$ for another upgrade :p
02:48.19Kaelten-Laptophrm
02:48.37Kaelten-Laptoponly comps from them I've seen without xp was some of their server builds
02:48.51Diabolic-Destinywhat if i call?
02:49.00Kaelten-Laptopprobably not
02:49.16Diabolic-Destinyu think asian stores
02:49.22Diabolic-Destinywould have them without anything installed?
02:49.49Kaelten-Laptopmaybe, but hell if you paid barts I could build the damn thing for you.
02:50.01Kaelten-LaptopI havn't shopped for one lately but its possible
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02:57.57Kaelten-Laptophttp://www.clevo.com.tw/products/M575U.asp
02:58.28Diabolic-Destinytht trusty site?
02:58.44Kaelten-Laptopits a manufacter
02:58.59Kaelten-Laptopnot even sure if they sell it off there
02:59.17Kaelten-Laptopbut thats a chasis needs some components
03:00.28Diabolic-Destinyya didnt see any memory
03:00.30Heriooh? a bare bones laptop?
03:00.47Diabolic-Destinyo nvm
03:01.28Diabolic-Destinywait it has cpu/memory/storage/sound/usb/lan
03:01.35Diabolic-Destinywut else does it need
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03:04.44Kaelten-Laptopno on those page the processer and ram is saying what it can take
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03:09.39aemuthhi, does anyone know if there is an addon yet that provides item info for TBC itmes, like vendor prices, tradeskill info and such like informant addon does?
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03:10.18Kaelten-LaptopKCI works for TBC and a rewrite is in the works
03:10.19[Liquidor]If informant provides those things, then why not use information?
03:10.46aemuthsorry forgot to mention informant has no tbc data yet afaik
03:11.23[Wobin]r<3
03:11.35[Wobin]gogo kael!
03:11.58[Wobin]I hear you use them a lot in the US
03:12.17aemuthSo KC Items has TBC info?
03:12.27Mikmahmm, what happened to Nargiddley?
03:12.31Kaelten-Laptopdit'll collect TBC info
03:12.34HerioKCI deosn't have info...
03:12.42Herioit collects it...
03:12.51aemuthi see
03:13.11NargiddleyMikma ?
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03:20.11IndustrialLooking for a person playing EU/Daggerspine/Horde
03:21.41MikmaNargiddley: you're alive!
03:23.35NargiddleyMikma, definately alive. just have a job now
03:23.46Nargiddleyso not here all day everyday like over the holidays heh
03:24.01Nargiddleylong weekend tho :D
03:24.22MikmaNargiddley: well, i was just wondering because haven't seen you done updates lately, only the other guy, someonewhoeverheis
03:24.22Nargiddleygonna try to get my new project up to alpha stages
03:24.29NargiddleyAdirelle
03:24.37IndustrialMikma: lvl?
03:24.44Nargiddleyand i have been doing updates
03:24.44IndustrialNargiddley: got my pm?
03:24.45MikmaIndustrial: yes please
03:24.52Nargiddleyyeah, its fixed Industrial
03:24.54MikmaNargiddley: what project?
03:24.56IndustrialMikma: What is your current level.
03:24.58IndustrialNargiddley: <3
03:24.59Nargiddleysecrets :D
03:25.06Industrialits a trap!
03:25.12MikmaNargiddley: sounds like a stupid name, change it :D
03:25.15Industrials/./?/
03:25.26Nargiddleywell, its called Waterfall.
03:25.32Mikmamage-addon
03:25.33Nargiddley:D
03:25.42IndustrialOmg this is just cool. Worlds first wheelchair backflip! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=656193898147576910
03:25.52MikmaIndustrial: is that you? are you proud now?
03:25.55Nargiddleyits not exactly an addon
03:26.03Nargiddleyyou'll see eventually :D
03:26.11IndustrialMikma: no its you if you dont tell me your chars level :@@@@
03:26.19Industrial;D
03:26.34[Liquidor]..
03:27.14MikmaIndustrial: i don't want to tell you because you start to brag to me about you getting n+1 gold and epix ;D
03:27.39Industrialwell, yeah..
03:27.43Industrial:(
03:28.19Mikmalol, noob
03:29.11Industrialgonest noob :p
03:29.14Industrialhonest, too.
03:30.13Mikmaanyone remembers the messaging-addon someone pasted here? (it had pretty cyan colored border and stuff)
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03:30.53MikmaIndustrial: 23
03:31.27Industrialdamn!
03:32.08Mikmai have like 4/5 filled with 23 :P
03:32.19Mikmai just got tired today after playing like 15h straight heh
03:32.39Mikmabut i still wanna find the addon :D
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03:35.20Feldiaanyone know if the "watch" function for simplecombatlog works?
03:36.15IndustrialMikma: I am 20 now. I ve been just trying to do every quest in my area
03:36.35IndustrialMikma: theres a 5man ahead of me now tho cant find anyone, so I guess ill skip it
03:37.53MikmaIndustrial: we completed the draenei island today and moved to do Deadmines quests. now we did BFD and got crap
03:38.04Mikmaour priest died there and everyone was like "start running"
03:38.10Mikmaso i ressed him ^^
03:38.38Mikmafound it http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cellular
03:38.59ThraeThanks to whoever suggested just copying over my World of Warcraft folder from another computer, rather then having to get new CDs to install it.
03:40.10ThraeHeh, Patch notes for 2.0.3. The phrase "terrible Burning Crusade" makes me think of "Got that terrible Burning sensation? Must be the Crusade!" That should have been Blizzard's marketing slogan.
03:41.06Mikmaok, what's BarAnnounce3?
03:41.16Mikma## Notes: Core for a module system based entirely around bars. /ba for options.
03:41.19Mikmaumm, what?
03:41.42ThraeMikma: Duhh, it's a module designed for Dwarves! They always hang around bars.
03:41.54Mikmaso it's a mage-addon
03:44.35IndustrialNargiddley: I have a request: display of money. But im not exactly sure where :P
03:44.54MikmaIndustrial: i have requested that too but he haven't done it :(
03:45.08Mikmai need to open my boring normal bags to see my money
03:45.09Industrialtheres a BA3_ addon too Mikma, but it didnt do anything :S (yet? :S)
03:45.17IndustrialI look for a vendor
03:45.18Industrial:P
03:45.24kenlyricgrrr, does anyone else in here play a paladin?
03:45.27NargiddleyI look at MoneyFu :P
03:45.39MikmaNargiddley: we wants it in!
03:45.39kenlyriccause I'm gonna start stabbing my eyes out.
03:46.18Mikmakenlyric: Industrial does
03:46.26Mikmahe's a bubbleboy 4 life!!!11oneone
03:47.06NargiddleyMikma, theres a couple of pretty big things in line before money
03:47.17MikmaNargiddley: liek?
03:47.27Mikma"please Mikma and Industrial"
03:47.29Nargiddleymostly cleaning up parts of the code
03:47.33IndustrialMikma: more like FACEMELTBOI :)
03:47.35Mikmai see that as prio1
03:47.43MikmaIndustrial: OH NOES PREIST!?
03:47.58Industrialyes.
03:48.03Mikmaaoe-silence
03:48.08Mikmaso, what's the idea of belf racials?
03:48.08NargiddleyMikma, my new project is first. which does effect baggins sort of :D
03:48.12Mikmai haven't figured it out yet
03:48.13Industrialall belfs have it
03:48.17Industrialthe idea is to take mana
03:48.42Industrialor rather with the silence you get mana for each application of the tap spell, wich is a self buff
03:49.01kenlyricIndustrial, you have any issues with your pally throwing shapeshiftbar errors during combat?
03:49.02Mikmaso, you just stack it with 5/5 and hope that the noob is in range
03:49.13Industrialalso, the belf priest racial consumes one priest buff from yourself and gives mana. 2 min CD
03:49.31Industrialkenlyric: How dare you. paladin, hah! I am priest.
03:49.34kenlyricso you make a warlock give you underwater breathing before every fight.
03:49.36IndustrialMikma: 3.
03:49.38Mikmawell, imho they suck :P i just might be misguided
03:49.40ThraeWhy does Burning Crusade have to install "Wow.exe"...that's just the core client, with all of its data being in MPQs. I guess the client isn't 100% modularized...
03:49.48kenlyricIndustrial: oh, someone told me you had a paladin too.
03:49.49IndustrialMikma: doesnt matter who is in range, its a buff on yourself if you tap anything with mana
03:49.53Industrialnah
03:50.15Industrialstacks 3 times
03:50.20kenlyricThere's got to be someone in this whole world that can figure this out.
03:50.35Mikmakenlyric: yes, you :)
03:50.51Industrialfree silence every 3 min and some mana, then my extra priest mana ever 2 min
03:51.11Industrialoh and Spirit Tap
03:51.19Industrialunlimited mana ftw
03:51.29Mikmammkay, well, i got free HoT that gets stronger after every level and *** Inspiration
03:51.48Industrialbut you are a hybrid healer
03:51.51kenlyricMikma: yeah, because I know lua.
03:52.03MikmaIndustrial: true that.
03:52.11kenlyricif I had figured it out, i'd have figured it out already :)
03:52.22Mikmai will go for dualwield ofc but endgame is all about heals
03:52.31kenlyricI just can't believe I'm the only person seeing it.
03:53.36IndustrialI see stupid people.
03:53.48IndustrialI need shirts to express my feelings
03:53.50Industrial:P
03:54.10MikmaIndustrial: oh, oh! and we got a free tabard :P
03:54.21Industrial:o
03:54.35IndustrialI have to wait til i get 10g
03:54.42Mikmareally, we do if we do all the quests from draenei place
03:54.54Industrialto get my Royal Corpse Corps tabard made :P
03:54.55ThraeMy Night Elf doesn't wear a shirt, partly for RP reasons, and partly because I think they look stupid.
03:55.19MikmaThrae: i never wear shirt on my chars
03:55.26ThraeHow else would people be able to see his rippling, purple biceps!
03:56.03XuerianBlack shirts to fill in the gaps in armor, ftw.
03:56.08MikmaIndustrial: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24344
03:56.32kenlyricstrange... bugsack doesn't save errors?
03:56.41ThraeXuerian: I think my armour suit is like a rainbow of multicolours.
03:56.45kenlyricit's got to store them somewhere... they are still there when I log back in .
03:56.51ThraeBut my gay rainbow suit has EXCELLENT stats!
03:56.57kenlyricmy BE Paladin doesn't wear clothes if he can help it.
03:57.04kenlyriche's the Prettiest
03:58.30IndustrialMikma: look.. ok
03:58.30Industriallooks*
03:58.47MikmaIndustrial: yeah it actually is quite ok. imagine that it really is a quest reward :O
04:00.01Funkeh`nn folks
04:00.54kenlyric"KC_Items-.95.19286\\bank\\bank.lua:71: attempt to concatenate a table value"
04:01.04kenlyricI just keep thinking my SVs are corrupted.
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04:03.34Industrialagain server restart :|
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04:06.12kenlyrichmmm... what's drycode?
04:06.25XuerianCode written without testing.
04:06.43kenlyrichmmm.. .
04:07.55ThraeIllidan was shouting "You are not prepared!" as the cinematic ends, then I try to login and...I need to install a patch. I guess I really wasn't prepared.
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04:09.22Xuerianhaha.
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04:17.42kenlyricbigwigs_timers or bigwigs_respawntimers?
04:23.06[Liquidor]Possible to read the addon notes ingame with Ace?
04:25.04ckknighthey all, back
04:26.51[Liquidor]ckknight, ping
04:26.58ckknightpong
04:27.47[Liquidor]The notes to be shown when hovering addons on the character selection screen: Possible to see those ingame?
04:28.24kergothGetAddOnMetadata is your friend
04:28.29[Liquidor]And if so, does Ace have any feature for that? I mean, I can list/enable/disbale all addons
04:28.44ckknightMCP
04:28.52kergoth[Liquidor], what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
04:29.10kergotheach addon has its Title: field from the .toc as the .title field in its object, same for Notes: and .notes
04:29.13kergothif thats what you mean
04:29.14[Liquidor]Read the description of an addon ingame
04:29.44kergoth"Read"?
04:29.44[Liquidor]View, read, watch, show - what word do you need? o.O
04:29.48kergothi dont need a word, i need a sane description
04:30.18kergothbut since tahts clearly not going to happen, i'll point you to ck's response
04:30.18kergothwe'll just have to rely on our assumptions about what you want
04:30.26[Liquidor]Geez
04:31.11kergothget the description programmatically for an addon you're writing? see a list of addons with descirptions and the ability to eanble/disable them from there? clarify in the future if you expect a sane answer
04:32.09Xuerian[Liquidor]: Don't worry. He's like this with everyone.
04:32.56[Liquidor]I'll ask again so the blind folks in Sweden gets it: Does Ace(2) provide the possibility to read the addon description while playing the game?
04:33.19Xuerian[Liquidor]: You don't need Ace(2) to do it =P
04:33.25[Liquidor]Let's start from there. It's a Yes or No question and then we'll see what happens depending on what you give as an answer.
04:33.40[Liquidor]Well Xuerian, what do I type then?
04:34.18Xuerianhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetAddOnMetadata
04:34.19ckknightjust use MCP
04:34.22XuerianRead and be enlightened.
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04:34.37[Liquidor]At this very moment I got 10 addons installed and running. I would very like to read the descriptions of them, the exact same ones as on the character loading screen
04:34.49ckknightGET MCP GODDAMMIT.
04:34.51[Liquidor]ckknight, Okay. That's a valid answer as well.
04:34.56ckknightnot going to say it a fourth time.
04:35.01XuerianWell if you really want to read them, and not get the data to use, listen to ck >.>
04:35.08XuerianElse he might blow a gasket. <.<
04:35.09[Liquidor]Well your 3rd time wasn't needed anyway
04:35.20ckknightmy 2nd time shouldn't've been.
04:35.28Xuerianck's got a point :3
04:35.32sergiohey guys how can i read the addon descriptions from the loading screen in game
04:35.35sergioanyone know?
04:35.39sergiobueller?
04:35.48ckknight~stab sergio
04:35.53purlACTION runs at sergio with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
04:35.53[Liquidor]Well since Kergoth was getting all Emo I felt like providing more info about my question.
04:36.05Xuerian[Liquidor]: unf unf.
04:36.13sergiolalala
04:36.18[Liquidor]Xuerian, darf darf
04:36.47sergioalso i've noticed that leveling I use 35 megs of ram for some reason. I blame one of you in this channel.
04:37.13sergiobam
04:39.12Mikmasergio: Industrial
04:39.26krynn-woot someone released bc finally
04:39.30ThraeDammit haste, use a more stable server for your addons.
04:39.32ckknightsergio: do you have PerformanceFu?
04:39.49Mikmakrynn-: yes, Blizzard released it
04:39.55ckknightsergio: if so, click it
04:39.58sergioi do
04:40.04krynn-no i mean warez mikma
04:40.16Mikmakrynn-: and why do we care about warez-version of BC?
04:40.19sergioi was just being a douche bag to see if anyone else would stab me
04:40.20ckknightkrynn-: I got it the first day...
04:40.23krynn-cause i purchased a cdkey
04:40.26krynn-and never got cd's
04:40.27krynn-so i care
04:40.31ckknightsame here
04:40.52ckknightI bought Kaelten's extra key
04:40.52krynn-now there is a clone version
04:40.52ckknightclone?
04:40.52krynn-clonecd
04:41.05ckknightISOs aren't enough for you?
04:41.05krynn-World.of.Warcraft.The.Burning.Crusade.Expansion.CLONE-UKT
04:41.05krynn-to be exact
04:41.09krynn-i like 100% original
04:41.10krynn-;p
04:41.12sergiohaha
04:41.25ckknightbut there's no difference.
04:41.34krynn-no not really
04:41.35Mikmait's still illegal :)
04:41.43Mikmamuahaha burn in hell!
04:41.46krynn-actually its not
04:41.50ckknightyea, it's not
04:41.52krynn-cause its not released with a cdkey
04:41.57ckknightseeing as we purchased the game
04:42.01krynn-and that
04:42.07krynn-your allowed to have backup copies
04:42.10krynn-just like movies
04:42.17ckknightyep, essentially.
04:42.20Mikmackknight: if you purchased the game you are required to get the box and all the crap that was in it too
04:42.24Mikmathat's what blizz has said
04:42.34ckknightwell, I don't care anymore
04:42.36sergioit really doesn't matter honestly
04:42.44Mikmawarezmonkeys
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04:43.01XuerianTime to return to your home, assmonkey!
04:43.21kergoth[Liquidor], shockingly enough, we arent psychics. deal with it.
04:43.34sergioi'd take a wild guess and say 80-90% of people who warez wow-bc actually bought a cdkey
04:43.44sergioand actually just can't get their cds
04:43.51sergioso who cares
04:44.11IndustrialGUIDE GUIDE LOL MANKRIKS WIFE HAS BEEN FOUND http://tixu.scribe.free.fr/
04:44.25IndustrialGUISE :| I so mess up typing
04:44.26Xuerian..
04:44.54Xuerian....
04:45.51MikmaIndustrial: that's the 3rd party program that runs in background and shows you positions of characters?
04:46.05Industrialits all out of game
04:46.07Industrialyes
04:46.19Industrialwell no
04:46.26Industrialit generates maps for you to see
04:46.29Mikmadecide already :D
04:46.33Industrialfrom a database
04:46.37Industrialand it has.. everything.
04:46.51Industrialclick an npc and it shows you its quests and related npcs
04:46.55Industrialits great
04:47.11Industrialquest items nodes everything
04:47.44Industrialand available in english
04:47.45Industrial;lp
04:48.17kenlyricand also blizz finds it very, very naughty.
04:55.37Mikmawhy in the hell Yata doesn't work :P
04:55.42XuerianIf it doesn't interact with the game, why would they have a problem with it?
04:56.35Mikmathey don't like datamining :P
04:56.35kenlyricXuerian: maybe I'm thinking of a different map.'
04:56.51kenlyricI'm thinking of the one you use while in the game, that shows you way too much info about the stuff around you.
04:56.57XuerianMikma: Yet WoWHead, Thottbot, and Allahkazam all exist.
04:57.35MikmaXuerian: yes and they propably curse at them
04:57.39sevencorvinaWoWHead <3
04:57.56XuerianTrue, I guess I can't dispute their actual feelings. I can flip them the bird about it though.
04:58.10Mikmayeah that's what i'll do too :)
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05:06.35XuerianUm, what the hell are the blue dragon things hunters can have as pets?
05:08.24Brunershow do i show if i got pvp enabled with aguf?
05:11.03krynn-"Show PvP Icons"
05:11.03krynn-in the main menu
05:11.03krynn-will put either an alliance or horder icon in the upper left of your unitframe
05:11.06krynn-horde*
05:11.09Brunershrmf, how did i not see that
05:11.27krynn-cause you were prolly browsing in the menus first (i made same mistake)
05:15.20IndustrialHow do I turn off the combat status igon with ag_Unitframes?
05:16.41krynn-Unit Frames > Player > Show Status Icon
05:17.32Industrialthanks
05:17.39krynn-np
05:17.39ThraeHmm. Either my server is unstable, or one of my addons is DC'ing me. I think it is the latter -- I see more and more increased KB/s up to 50 before I logoff.
05:21.02ckknightThrae: force a collection?
05:21.39Thraeckknight: Looks like it was tekSupp--or maybe not
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05:22.00ckknightwhy do you have tekSupport running?
05:22.04ThraeI don't think it's any of my addons now. It just DC'd even without the memory increasing first.
05:22.05ckknightare you developing something?
05:22.22Thraeckknight: Different addons, but I just installed it and forgot to disable it.
05:22.40ThraeYou know, this probably explains why there's suddenly no queue for Maelstrom :D
05:23.50ThraeJust for shits and giggles, let me login as a character without addons.
05:28.44ckknightI like the giggles better.
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05:31.16ThraeHmm, that character doesn't get DC'd....
05:31.18XuerianI do believe I've completely lost all urge to play wow again.
05:31.46sylvanaaryou can use MCP-QQ to dont forget my masterpiece
05:32.11ThraeWait, he's in IF, not Darnassus...different continents, different servers
05:32.20sylvanaarim reading the backbuffer, its humorous
05:33.33sylvanaari should so what other people do and rename it Sylvanaar Control Panel, just change the string
05:36.19ckknightCartgrapher
05:36.26ckknightCartographer's been committed to
05:36.29ckknightupdate, people
05:36.45ckknightI added a fix to notes so you won't accept unknown modules' notes
05:37.00ckknightand added an option to LookNFeel that lets you disable the info text in the top-left
05:38.51ckknightsylvanaar: do what you feel like
05:43.37sylvanaarim just trying to be humorous
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05:47.57Fisker-ckknight you there?
05:48.25ckknightI have never left you, child
05:48.31Fisker-awesome
05:48.35Fisker-you know a bit about macros?
05:48.41ckknightyea
05:48.50ckknightnothing amazing, but I understand them
05:49.12Fisker-Well i need a macro to use repentance if cooled down if it's not it should use hammer of justice
05:49.20Fisker-is that possible with the new system?
05:49.33ckknight<PROTECTED>
05:49.38ckknightpray you're lucky and spam.
05:50.19Fisker-i need all 3 of them?
05:51.02ckknightno, it just gives you better chances of hitting it
05:51.15ckknightactually, that won't work
05:51.24ckknightcause you may get up to 4.5 seconds cooldown and such.
05:51.25ckknightum
05:51.27ckknightthere's no good way.
05:51.29Fisker-ah damn
05:51.30ckknightyou're boned
05:51.38Fisker-i just found out
05:51.46Fisker-cause i need to cast judgement after
05:51.50ThraeInteresting -- I put a [nocombat] modifier on /click and it seems to work.
05:51.53kebinusanhmm could someone maybe fix the externals on ark inventory
05:51.57Fisker-if it takes the one that's already used it still judges
05:52.05kebinusanthey are using the  \ instead of / for the path
05:54.28ckknightFisker-: [nocombat] could work
05:54.36ckknightsince Repentance is an OOC deal
05:55.03ckknightwait
05:55.04ckknightno
05:55.14ckknightthat's something else
05:55.17ckknightyea, you're boned
05:55.18ckknightsorry
05:56.16Fisker-heh :P
05:56.27Fisker-sux to be me :(
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06:16.25ThraeHmmm, even with all my "clutter", I'm not liking changing of the Viewport.
06:23.15kenlyric~seen Kaelten-Laptop
06:23.43purlkaelten-laptop is currently on #wowace (6h 29m 5s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 3h 11m 12s, last said: 'dit'll collect TBC info'.
06:23.55Kaelten-Laptop?
06:25.16Kaelten-Laptopkenlyric: whatsup?
06:25.17kenlyricI was gonna ping you about a Kc_items error I'm pretty sure I can reproduce.
06:25.42kenlyricbut I don't think you're working on the old version, so I decided against it.
06:28.01kenlyricanyway, if you're interested, http://ace.pastey.net/5283 every time I visit a bank.
06:28.16CodayusHmm, I want a mod that plays a sound with Surge of Light procs.  Anyone know of an existing mod that does that?  :-)
06:32.38ThraeWhy the heck does LuaEdit provide a .ace archive when it's larger then the .zip?
06:34.02ckknightsuch is one of the great mysteries of life, Thrae
06:35.07Fisker-fascinating
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06:41.33Adirellemorning
06:41.59sevencorvinaMornin' ya.
06:45.37JoshBorkeanyone want to help me figure out how to post to the google group to get my password reset?
06:47.33sylvanaarCodayus: SCT
06:47.55Codayussylvanaar: er...doesn't seem to my default.  Hmmm
06:48.05sylvanaarread the instructions
06:48.19sylvanaaryou gotta make it do that
06:48.22CodayusHeh
06:48.35CodayusFair enough, thanks for the pointer.
06:49.48CodayusOoooh, sct_event_config.lua
06:49.53CodayusAwesome, thanks sylvanaar.
06:55.45krynn-anyone know a way to bind your arrow keys to camera movement
06:55.54krynn-or if such a thing is even possible
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07:20.24ckknightkrynn-: I believe it is
07:20.44krynn-id love to bind my arrow keys to it
07:20.51krynn-then i wouldnt have to use my damn mouse so much
07:33.12NargiddleyAdirelle, you should be able to fix that consumable localization prob now. Just moved them into Sieve
07:33.26AdirelleI'll take a look
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08:07.55PProvostI can't seem to get agUF to show party buffs any more. Is anyone else seeing this?
08:08.19Fisker-checked that aura style is set correctly?
08:08.56Fisker-does seem i have the same problem
08:13.18PProvostBeen that way for a little while (days at least)
08:14.28PProvostAs a buffer, I hate it.
08:22.33PProvostAnotehr thing I can't get agUF to do is auto stack the party group, with the pets interleaved.
08:22.45PProvostMight need to dump by aguf SV file and see if that helps.
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08:32.58Soullesshmmm, quick question for all the authors in here
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08:33.12Soullessi know that none of you actually play wow, but did you buy the expo?
08:34.07KaeltenI think I figured out why I kept crashing
08:34.09KaeltenI had a ~40% fragmentation on my hard drive
08:34.43Soullessmaybe thats why my shitty windows webhost is so slow
08:34.55Soullesswho hosts wowace?
08:35.15Kaeltenum I do
08:35.21Kaeltenor rather I admin it
08:35.32Kaeltenits running on linux
08:35.36Soullessyour own box?
08:35.42Soullessyeah, real servers run nix : /
08:35.55SoullessISS blows hard
08:35.59Kaeltenna I've got it in a top quality datacenter
08:36.14Kaeltenbut I had to set it up
08:36.29Soullessyeah
08:36.54Soullesssvn site and wiki all on the same box?
08:36.58Kaeltenya
08:37.11Kaeltendev.wowace.com www.wowace.com and files.wowace.com all running off the same box.
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08:37.38Soullessso how many patches til i can actually play tbc? 3? 4?
08:38.12Kaeltensomething like that.
08:40.11Feldiaquestion
08:40.22Feldiawhy do people call an expansion the "expo"
08:40.46krkashorter
08:40.53Feldiawhy "o"
08:40.56Feldiainstead of "a"
08:41.06Kaeltenhell if I know
08:41.13krkaeasier to say
08:41.15Kaeltenneither makes sense to me.
08:41.19Feldiaeasier to say...
08:42.10Soullesslol, LETS GO PLAY THE EPXA
08:42.21KaeltenJosh_Borke: I reset your pass
08:42.26Kaeltenyou did get it right?
08:43.49FeldiaSoulless: you say that as if "Lets go play the expo!" sounds any better
08:44.46Soullesswell it flows
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08:44.46whiztercan someone tell me what the addon "reverseengineering" exactly does? "Reverse Engineering will drill down and search your tradeskills for their elements (Wobin)" what does that mean?
08:44.57Feldiait means it shows the components
08:45.04Feldiasay you want to make a greater shadow pot, that requires shadow oil
08:45.09Feldiaso fade leaf / grave moss will be listed
08:45.12Feldiaalong with the vials
08:45.30whizteroh ok. thx
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08:49.35Kaeltenpopular blog software ?
08:49.45CideKaelten: hi
08:49.51Kaeltenhi cide
08:50.02CideI heard you can still update GMail using the wowace updater.. confirm/deny
08:50.21Kaeltenhrm, not on the official mirror you shouldn't be able to
08:50.37Kaeltenits not listed in the descript.ion anymore
08:50.54CideI'll try some day but someone told me it works.. thanks
08:51.08Kaeltenjust loaded it up to double check and it doesn't work
08:51.14Cidecool, thanks
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08:51.39Kaeltenheh
08:52.23KaeltenSo telling him that I still run it personally not a good idea eh?
08:52.28Kaeltenhrm think I'm going to try Postal
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08:55.44Kaeltenhttp://slashdot.org/articles/07/01/20/0111215.shtml
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09:15.45ckknightany idea what event fires when a guildie disconnects?
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09:25.39whizterhttp://phpfi.com/195356 <- can someone tell me why this macro does not work anymore? it worked before i installed BC yesterday.. alt+space conjures mana stones, space uses them
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09:26.49whizterconjuring works, using doesn't anymore..
09:27.31ZealotOnAStickI like Postal.
09:27.48ZealotOnAStickI wish Grennon had finished the conventional mass-mailer frame mode dealy before he left.
09:27.52ZealotOnAStickbut it works well.
09:28.10ZealotOnAStickWould like to share blackbooks between characters is my only real want/gripe otherwise.
09:29.22ZealotOnAStickHrm.
09:29.45ZealotOnAStickWhy was the glorylib toc changed to 20003 by sylvanaar today?  It was updated to that back when I hacked it for 2007 bgs.
09:30.00ZealotOnASticksomeone else change it back (or to 20005 or something silly)?
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09:31.36PProvostNight all
09:31.43ZealotOnASticknight
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09:37.43ckknightZealotOnAStick: *shrug*
09:39.03KarlThePagani've seen a few people change their mods to 20005
09:41.10ckknightgah.
09:41.16ckknightfrankly, I blame Blizzard.
09:42.08ZealotOnAStickYeah, minor patches that don't change .tocs and don't -really- do anything to alter compatability they shouldn't keep forcing load out of date addons to be unchecked.
09:42.23ZealotOnAStickAnd it'd be nice if they'd stick with a consistent toc versioning system.
09:42.33ZealotOnAStickThe current one, if it lasts a while, will be at least the 4th I've seen.
09:52.23whiztercan i set marks on the map using cartographer? i really liked the metamap feature to set a mark somewhere, and then set it as a waypoint to guide me there using an arrow. can i achieve something like this using ace2 addons?
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09:59.48ckknightwhizter: a note?
09:59.51ckknightctrl-rightclick
09:59.58ckknightit says so in the top-left how to do so
10:00.15ckknightactually the arrow part hasn't been coded yet.
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10:03.40kebinusanhmm all the svn mirrors seem dead at r25528, anyone else having this problem
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10:06.44ZealotOnAStick~seen wobin
10:07.11purlwobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd (1d 15h 36m 48s), last said: '*snort* sorry =)'.
10:15.20KirkburnBtw, why no CIA news?
10:16.05KirkburnI miss my updated :(
10:16.08Kirkburn*updates
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10:18.08DhragaMorning
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10:27.44nae|lapmorning :)
10:28.22Dhragackknight, thanks for adding the hook to Atlaslootenhanced =)
10:28.33Dhraga(into cartographer)
10:28.34ckknightyou're welcome
10:28.45DhragaI love it =)
10:28.50ckknightI'm glad
10:28.57ckknightworking on a Guild Positions thing now.
10:29.16DhragaOh sweeet, the guild can never hide from me again :P
10:29.27AntiarcOh, so that is going in?
10:29.29AntiarcNice
10:29.33nae|lapHm. Atlasloot with Cartographer?
10:29.37ckknightmain feature is efficiency.
10:29.40ckknighthehe
10:29.42DhragaJu
10:29.48Dhragaoops mt :P
10:31.20Dhragackknight, will it take a alteration of the code in carto or eqcompare to get eqcompare working on the loot info in cartp ?
10:31.30Dhragacartp=carto ;)
10:31.38ckknightEQCompare.
10:31.40ckknightmy guess.
10:31.51ckknightactually, I have no idea
10:31.56DhragaOKies, sweet, I'll have to bugg Thrae on that then =)
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10:34.42Kodewulfckknight: hi
10:34.56ckknighthey.
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10:35.22Kodewulfjust wanted to remind you about the GetDistance() function we talked about... :D
10:35.53ckknightoh, right
10:35.57ckknightworking on Guild Positions now.
10:35.59ckknightit's cooler.
10:36.10Kodewulfwith that i have to agree... lol
10:37.07Kodewulfcan you make a page for the wiki like the wishlist, but for API requests?
10:37.12Kadishso, closetgnome
10:37.23ckknightKodewulf: just add it to the wishlist.
10:37.24ckknight:-P
10:37.32Kadishnot able to deal with 2 identical weapons ?
10:37.58Kodewulfckknight: no problem, thx
10:38.44Ordogdoes someone know how to get those honor tokens in zangarmarsh ?
10:40.42[Ammo]morning
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10:47.18vhaarrmorning
10:47.39[Ammo]thanks for fixing those postal oversights vhaar :
10:48.44ckknightmorning, [Ammo]
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10:50.12fjoesneanyone having problems with moving the questracker that comes with questfu? :(
10:50.40axxotracker no
10:50.48axxothe other one keeps snapping to the worst possible places :)
10:51.01koviyou have to click on some weird place to move it
10:51.04kovinoticed that too
10:51.05kovi:x
10:51.10axxojust above the top quest for example
10:51.18fjoesneyeah.. right now it is in the middle hehe
10:51.23fjoesneok.. thanks :)
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10:57.18Kodewulfckknight: wish list updated. :)
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11:09.27ckknightanyone want to help me test the Guild Positions thing?
11:09.29axxono clue what it is, but sure
11:11.08ckknightare you US?
11:11.11axxono :(
11:11.32ckknightnvm then
11:11.39ckknightanyone US that's up?
11:12.15TainYeah but I don't want to be awake.
11:13.15TainAnd my addons are tossing errors left and right last time I was on and I don't know which was causing it.
11:13.58vith_<- is awake
11:13.59Nargiddleyhow can I help ckknight ?
11:14.08ckknightI just made a commit to Cartographer
11:14.18vith_wowace.com/files seems broken
11:14.32ckknightyou can update that and make a Horde on the Baelgun realm
11:17.23nuOHEPanyone knows an addon that automatically buys reagents? (not a rogue)
11:18.02ggilbertFree Refills
11:21.05Nargiddleyckknight, i'm on, name Nargiddley
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11:28.19krynn-i know there is clearfont that changes most of the fonts ingame, however is there an addon that changes the font of the names above npc/pc's?
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11:35.46vith_krynn-: i wish.  actually the font is fine, just the fact that it gets rendered at an unreadable size is the problem
11:36.01krynn-i personally hate the font
11:36.10krynn-cant you like inject a new font into the mpq
11:37.34Nargiddleyi dont think fonts have to be in the mpq to be used
11:37.34vith_i have no idea, i'm just a user.  have you tried using the World of Warcraft\Fonts folder?
11:37.38ckknightkrynn-: use ClearFont2
11:38.12krynn-i am using that
11:38.33krynn-it doesnt change character names displayed above peoples heads tho
11:40.53krynn-and vith_ i dont have a folder with that name
11:41.21vith_read the clearfont(2) readme
11:41.47krynn-thx
11:42.13vith_i'm not positive it causes that font to be replaced, but.. probably.
11:42.22krynn-ill give it a shot
11:46.44grollhah found out what has been causing my main problems with my ui memory and garbage collection!! :D:D finally :D
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11:47.04grollgetting rid of ace combat parsing solved most of my problems :)
11:47.14grollcombat parsing addons
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11:52.13Arzachyo guys, anyone have used AceComm by chance ?
11:52.13ckknightalright Cartographer-GuildPositions is ready for general consumption.
11:52.19ckknightArrowmaster:
11:52.24ckknightblah, sorry
11:52.28ckknightArzach: yea, I wrote it
11:52.37Arzachgreat :)
11:52.47ArzachI have a little problem with it :(
11:52.48ckknightjust made an addon that uses it.
11:52.51ckknight;-)
11:52.52ckknightoh?
11:52.57Arzachyep...
11:53.22ArzachI need to use a custom channel and it doesn't work SO fine :P
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11:54.16Arzachself:RegisterComm(self.commPrefix, "CUSTOM", self.db.profile.channelname, "OnCommReceive") inside OnEnable()
11:54.48Arzachaccording to the wiki sould be right, but it joins the channel BEFORE any WoW channel
11:55.09Arzachso I have my custom channel as 1), general as 2), etc
11:55.48ckknightooh
11:55.50ckknightthat's not good
11:55.52ckknightit shouldn't do that.
11:55.56Arzachyep :(
11:56.01ckknightalso, why do you use a custom channel?
11:56.12Arzachand I'm using latest ACE2 svr revision
11:56.45Arzachto share mod data w friends, much like PlayerRating does
11:56.58ckknightfair enough
11:56.59Arzachbtw, PlayerRatings have the very same issue
11:57.04ckknightsend me the code you have now
11:57.11ckknightmy nick at gmail
11:57.16Arzacheven tho you an disable this feature in PlayerRating
11:57.30Arzachokies, I'll do, ty
11:58.10TainWow I just accidentally went to wowiki.com for the first time, "For resources and information on World of warcraft gold and World of Warcraft cheats"
11:58.18Vegeta]BT[does the mailaddon postal have an option to send mass mails ?
11:59.43ckknightVegeta]BT[: think so
11:59.46Vegeta]BT[i ve installed it yesterday, but when i opened my mailbox, there weren't any options like that
12:00.02Vegeta]BT[just like the original blizzmail
12:00.35Vegeta]BT[i ve already checked, there are no dependencies missing
12:00.41Vegeta]BT[in the addonlist
12:02.14ckknightalt-click to send an item quick
12:02.18ckknightthat's what I do
12:02.43Vegeta]BT[yea but this only puts the item in the mailbox
12:03.07Vegeta]BT[gmail had an option to put more than one item in a box to send it to one char
12:04.23Vegeta]BT[the name of this option was "Massmail"
12:04.31ckknightfill in a name, alt-click
12:04.44ckknightit sends off the item
12:04.49grollckknight i noticed a minor annoyance with cartographer :P in some places the notes get overlapped by each other so some sort of selection method on the main map page would be nice.. ie i want trainers or traders etc and i tick that box and voila they show up
12:04.53grollor something similar :D
12:04.55Vegeta]BT[ah ok, i'll try that ty
12:05.05vith_i've been using CT_MailMod, can Postal pretty much replace that?  haven't tried it yet
12:05.13ckknightpretty much
12:05.15grollvith_ ye
12:05.26vith_i'll give it a go once wowace.com/files works again then
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12:06.11Xelar_hmm
12:06.17Xelar_any one know what happend to the otavi addon ?
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12:13.46ZealotOnAStickckknight, what strata level are the icons in cartographer set at?
12:13.59ckknightah, I forget
12:14.01ZealotOnAStickI've noticed that they're coming in on top of tooltips for players.
12:14.08ckknightah, yea, need to fix that
12:14.22Gandharvais the filesection down?
12:15.24Gandharvahttp://files.wowace.com/ - The requested URL could not be retrieved
12:15.38ZealotOnAStickgive it a minute and refresh.
12:15.43ZealotOnAStickSquid's being wonky.
12:16.01Imtinyi get cache errors and have done for 2 hours..
12:16.40ZealotOnAStickHmm.  Lemme try.
12:17.12ZealotOnAStickweird.
12:17.23ZealotOnAStickThe index is down, but if I hit forward to a file link, I can download it.
12:17.43grollany way to completely get rid of the combatlog window? :P
12:18.00Gandharvadelete it?
12:19.29ImtinyExcuse the nublike question but I'm at my wits end with this. I had to disable addons so I could recover from a disconnect loop earlier. When I turned them back on, I'm getting constant gratuity2.0.lib errors from a variety of addons.. Any idea how to fix it short of setting fire to my computer?
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12:24.58ckknightZealotOnAStick: fixed
12:27.27ZealotOnAStickCool, thanks.
12:27.56krynn-what kind of measurement system is used in most of these ace2 plugins, i was going to use photoshop to size things in perfect positions on my screen but i cant figure out for the life of me what these measurements are cause they definetly aren't pixels (or the origin is something i dont understand)
12:30.00nymbiathey're pixels but then the ui scale is applied
12:30.03Srosheverything is kinda normalized, if i
12:30.07Srosh*iirc
12:30.19krynn-ah the scale would be what im forgetting
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12:35.39godsyn!hi!
12:36.08godsynany clue whats up w/ http://files.wowace.com/ ?
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12:37.40krynn-awesome world server just went down
12:38.56godsynrolling restarts.
12:39.02godsynany clue whats up w/ http://files.wowace.com/ ?
12:41.52robotuschjeez, think it's time to reoverhaul my ui again :<
12:42.53robotuschwonder what look to go for this time :/
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12:59.00ebiHi all. Is there a mirror for wowace.com/files ?
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13:03.39vhaarrsylvanaar: You fail at indentation and line endings.
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13:04.54grollanyone got any idea why most of my memory problems went away when i stopped using the ace combatlog parsing stuff? ie parserlib i guess
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13:05.05vhaarrBecause ParserLib is bad.
13:05.22grollheh oke why is it bad then? :P
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13:05.47vhaarrIt creates a ton of unecessary tables.
13:06.05vhaarrAnd doesn't clean up properly.
13:06.16grollok so i guess that is what makes my comp hang for like 20 seconds when i do a garbage collection :P
13:06.22grollis it being fixed btw?
13:06.52vhaarrI optimized it slightly, but I'm not sure if I can be arsed to do more, since Rophy2 is working on Parser-2.0 anyway.
13:07.23grollah okies i'll wait until that is done then and just run with something else in the meantime i guess :) but thanks for the answers
13:17.54Rophy2vhaarr: where did Parser-1.1 create lots of unecssary tables and didnt clean up?
13:19.07vhaarrRophy2: The pattern categories / info, the self.clients table.
13:19.26vhaarrRophy: Some of that can be fixed without API breakage, but not all of it.
13:21.02vhaarrI've modified the client table to be a self.clients[event][client] = func locally, but that would break, so I'm not committing it.
13:21.29vhaarrand the self.trailers table have been converted to just locals, since that provides faster access times
13:21.37Rophyvhaarr: the loadcategory are loaded only once at the beginning, i doubt they make ay differences.
13:21.51vhaarrRophy: Surely they're loaded as they're needed?
13:21.56vhaarrRophy: That was my guess at least.
13:22.03vhaarrbut of course, you know better
13:22.34Rophyya but only the first time, and the categories are GC'ed out, only eventTable and patternTable are the ones needed at the end.
13:23.42grollwell i just know that almost all my problems since the last patch more or less went away when i turned off all combatlog parsing :P
13:23.44vhaarrRophy: Fact is, using Parser-1.1, my memory quickly climbs to the max (48mb) after playing in a 5man group. Playing without Parser-1.1, it climbs by 2mb in the same time.
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13:24.23grollvhaarr exactly my problem, and then my comp hang for 20-30 seconds while it collects garbage
13:24.49Rophyvhaarr: I'm not trying to defend that Parser-1.1 cannot be improved, but I'd like to know what's bad and what's good.
13:25.08vhaarrRophy: indeed
13:25.42grolloh well gotta log back in.. need to lvl to 66 :P
13:25.44grollsee ya :D
13:26.21PX_HakkerI can't login yet... my UI is foxord and I can't update :( :( :(
13:26.28Rophyand IMO almost any ace2 user will have a mod which uses ParserLib, yet not everyone had the same memory issue.
13:27.55Fisker-i do
13:28.06vhaarrSince 2.0, I bet everyone does.
13:28.08Fisker-but some weeks ago it wasn't there the same way it is now
13:29.22Rophyhmm...
13:30.25Rophyyou can take a look at Parser-1.1's core OnEvent routine and see if there's anything which might cause problems.
13:35.26grollhehe i only got 3 addons that use parserlib and those are the ones i turned off
13:35.54paranoidiis it possible to get bartender3 bar to switch page depending target range? (hunter melee/ranged)
13:36.39Rophygroll: I'm not trying to defend ParserLib, if it got any problem, I hope to fix it.
13:40.22Rophyvhaarr: you meant there is something wrong with the info table?
13:40.54Thorgardparanoid, no.
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13:43.26paranoidiThorgard: ChangeActionBarPage requires hardware event now?
13:43.40paranoidior why is it doomed?
13:43.42Thorgardparanoidi, pretty sure.
13:44.00ThorgardActually, I dunno. I thought so, but I'm not 100% sure.
13:44.35paranoidihmmh...
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13:46.55Mikmahttp://www.finnchan.fi/b/files/1169109704/1_yll%C3%A4ripyll%C3%A4ri.gif
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13:47.52grollRophy didnt think u were either :) i bet it's good.. if u got a better comp than i got :P
13:48.05[S|imcea]Not sure if anyone is alive, but I'd like to check.. is files.wowace.com down?
13:48.13krynn-its down
13:48.31ThorgardMikma, lol
13:48.46[S|imcea]Darn.. I just wiped my addons and need to replace them :(
13:49.57[S|imcea]Well since we're on the topic, any chance of an ETA for restoration of service? :)
13:51.00Thorgard[S|imcea], http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/
13:51.09Thorgardhttp://svn1.wowace.com/files/
13:51.57[S|imcea]ah thanks a lot :)
13:52.22[S|imcea]Okay off to rework my Interface folder then
13:52.45krynn-are those mirrors thor?
13:52.55Thorgardkrynn-, yeah.
13:52.59krynn-nice
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14:02.03krynn-nope
14:02.05krynn-mt
14:02.21manubmy wowaceupdater is screwing up?
14:02.41manubjust upgraded to 1.7 and tbc but it says to me "no public versions are available" and I can't update a single addon
14:02.44manubany issues? :)
14:03.31Kaeltensorry for a short downtime guys
14:03.34Daemonachange the mirror
14:03.39Idyllai had problems a few mins ago with www.wowace.com/files but its all good now
14:03.41Daemonasvn1 is ok for the updater
14:03.45manubok :)
14:03.47manubty :)
14:03.48Idylla<3 Kaleten ;p
14:04.16Kaeltenfiles was down for some reason, think it had to do with the log files rotating
14:10.33phyber~botmail for weab Could you split the Gossip option of Automaton up a bit?  For example, have the option to skip gossip at NPCs, but don't auto hand in quests.
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14:17.40weabyeah phyber, the thought's crossed my mind from time to time. one of these days.. ;x
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14:26.29Smeltn`dang it
14:26.32Smeltn`I ned ag
14:26.39Smeltn`need ag even
14:31.42phyberweab: cool :)
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14:41.42krynn-is there an ace2 mod that enables you to change the size of your rendered image on screen so its not rendering behind your eepanels?
14:42.06robotuschHai ag`
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14:52.39Fisker-krynn- well if you use skinner it's inbuilt
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15:00.16krynn-i do use skinner
15:00.52krynn-View Port ?
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15:02.27krynn-yup that was it thanks fisker
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15:30.32Kaeltenwhats it called in math when you take a number and do x = y + y - 1 + y - 2 ....
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15:33.10beerkeisn't that fibonjacci ?
15:33.16beerke-j
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15:34.45kenlyric|homeI just have the Mandelbrot Set song stuck in my head now.\
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15:39.36krkaKaelten: isn't that a geometric series or something?
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15:40.04Smeltn`anyone know anything about aguf
15:40.48Smeltn`I am trying to make the text stretch on the bar so that it will show the full name or lvl/class/race/gender instead of ckkni....
15:40.57sbuWTB adept's elixier+ volatile healing potion in PT (autorbar ;p)
15:40.58sbu:)
15:42.28kenlyric|homeis there a way to supress the output message from buggrabber when it grabs too many at once? There's a bug I haven't figured out yet, but I don' want to be spammed with that message since it doesn't appear to actually break anything.
15:42.53vhaarrkenlyric|home: /script BugGrabber.Print = function() end
15:46.33Smeltn`http://www.wreckoning.org/ftp/Smeltn/chocobo.jpg
15:46.43kenlyric|homevhaarr: thanks.
15:47.08Smeltn`see how my targets race is cut off
15:47.10Smeltn`thats what I want to fix
15:47.26krynn-only way i know is to widen the bar
15:47.36kenlyric|homebeginning to drive myself crazying try to figure this shapeshiftbar error, but i'd also like to play sometime too :)
15:48.10Smeltn`yeah i dont want to widen the bar
15:48.17Smeltn`It's perfect now
15:48.30sbuckknight: guild-map functionality in cartographer rocks! :)
15:48.34sbunice work
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15:50.35Barbanussbu, is that a module?
15:52.36sbuBarbanus: builtin module
15:52.44sbulike instancenotes
15:52.54sbuits in "Cartographer"
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16:11.15Gnarfozckknight: your last commit to ag_UF = win
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16:13.40Prophyywhats the guild-map function in cartographer? how do u access it?
16:15.23[FH]Birdemaninotes share
16:15.44[FH]Birdemaniyou will get complaints of error messages from those that have older versions
16:15.48ag`ckknight_: you there?
16:15.57sbuProphy: its just 'enabled
16:15.59sbu'
16:16.00sbuor 'disabled'
16:16.11sbuyou need other ppl to have cartographer
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16:17.40Prophyywhat does the guild-map do?
16:18.02ag`it maps the guild
16:18.25Prophyy?
16:22.23Adirelle~seen kodewulf
16:22.50purlkodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-39-132.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 25m 32s ago, saying: 'ckknight: wish list updated. :)'.
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16:25.52Fisker-ckknight_ ?
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16:32.09AmadeoSomeone help me get some more framerate out of WoW in wine on Nvidia hardware :)
16:32.10snurreyay, ive got epic flying mount :D
16:33.14JoshBorkegrats on 70 snurre, and grats on your mount
16:33.21snurrety :)
16:33.31AmadeoI'm 61!
16:33.47Amadeoand I have a standard level 40 mount!
16:34.20ag`that would make my eyes bleed!
16:34.56Amadeoit makes my eyes bleed all the time
16:36.03snurreomg, soooo fast
16:38.17Amadeosnurre: On your Warrior?
16:38.24snurreno, my warlock
16:38.28Amadeohaha
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16:39.09Funkeh`hey
16:41.41Barbanusanyone know of any way to make Xloot show the rolls for an item?
16:42.13BarbanusI've won items before, had my inv full, didnt know to pick it up
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16:55.14AmadeoI can't seem to break 17-22 fps in wine, almost a 30 fps hit from Windows, there has to be a way to improve that
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16:56.26snurrehttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/831/windrider4uy.jpg hihi
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16:57.58Prophyysnuree whats ur bagmod
16:58.04Prophyythat shows consumables and quests
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16:58.26nee|lapBaggins
16:58.42hydhhi! i have bartender3 and want some cooldown thingie... what should i use cooldown, cooldowncount or cooldowntimers?
16:58.49nee|laphydh: use OmniCC
16:59.01Prophyydoes baggins still require a ONEBag type mod?
16:59.12nee|lapProphyy: no, it never did
16:59.18Prophyynice
16:59.20hydhnee|lap why omnicc?
16:59.42Prophyytime to remove bagnon and banknon mods then
16:59.43nee|laphydh: Because it is very good. Not Ace, but making it Ace would mean making it less efficient
17:01.23hydhok thx nee|lap
17:01.31nee|lap:)
17:01.38hydhis there a aced version or something like auctioneer
17:01.53ag`cooldowncount is on svn too
17:02.05nee|laphydh: kc_Items
17:02.13Gnarfozwhy not use auctioneer itself
17:02.35ag`nee|lap: well, if you use other ace addons they share libs... :)
17:02.49ag`of course as a standalone omnicc is better
17:03.06nee|lapag`: I know, but I am just repeating what others here said about OmniCC, so if it's wrong, please correct me :)
17:03.29nee|lapI thought Cooldown and such were bars though, not overlays/counters on buttons
17:03.31Gnarfozomnicc does what it's supposed to, don't see how making it ace would benefit it
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17:04.39Leaf_ArchimondeHello. Another noob question: I have an edit field created using CreateFrame('EditBox'...). It's careta is always active unless different editbox is clicked. Can i somehow modify it so any clock outside of it will make a caret inactive ?
17:04.43Gnarfozanyone got favorite farm spots for ironweb spider silk?
17:04.55snurrehttp://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3492/mounts8ob.jpg hihi
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17:19.10nee|lapEr, does Cartographer now show fellow guild members on the map?
17:20.27nee|lapAh, it does.
17:20.30nee|lapFreaky
17:21.30nee|lapCould it be made to show friends?
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17:24.50hypetechany ideas on when OneBag will be operational again?
17:25.46Amadeoit works for me
17:25.56hypetechreally?
17:25.58hypetechhmm
17:25.59TainMe also.
17:26.06Amadeoyeah!
17:26.14AmadeoTain doesn't lie, he's like George Washington
17:26.17hypetechlol
17:26.24TainI have the wooden teeth to prove it.
17:26.33hypetechI didn't think he was lying, I'm just more confused on why mine is broked-ed now :(
17:26.42hypetechsays out of date in addon list
17:26.51hypetechbut it's the newest version through the wowace updater
17:26.58Amadeojust check the box that says load outdated addons
17:27.00Amadeoup top
17:27.18Amadeobe sure to remove true broken addons though when they error out in game :)
17:27.23Amadeoor update them
17:27.41hypetechoh
17:28.39hypetechso what does the out of date mean?
17:28.45hypetechwhat does it use as a reference of date?
17:28.58Amadeothe toc version number
17:29.14Leaf_ArchimondeHello. Another noob question: I have an edit field created using CreateFrame('EditBox'...). It's careta is always active unless different editbox is clicked. Can i somehow modify it so any clock outside of it will make a caret inactive ?
17:30.15nee|lapNot a clue about that I fear.
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17:33.26Tularwhats a good addon that will show me the quest levels?
17:34.04Prophyyif i use baggins bag doesn't all open up to One...is there another mod i need?
17:34.22hypetechanybody know how dogchow works?
17:34.31AdirelleProphyy: try the profile "all in one sorted"
17:34.39Prophyythanks!
17:35.24nee|lapTular: Levelator
17:36.19Mikmaumf wtf. where can i find a trainer for alchemy 150-> in allianceside?
17:36.49Prophyyadirelle: how do i bring "all in one sorted" up all the time?  bind it to shift-b ??
17:37.14Adirellebaggins should remember it
17:37.42Prophyyhmm nope..
17:37.51Prophyyif i hit shift-b its default bags that open up
17:37.56Adirelleprophyy: you may have to rebind B to baggins opening
17:38.21AdirelleProphyy: search for Baggins in Blizzard bindings
17:38.25Prophyyah yah i c it
17:38.31Prophyythanks!! much appreciated
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17:38.49Tularnee|lap: dont see the Levelator download
17:39.34Adsumgodday everyone, I have a question i would like to get a hint about. I've tried out Baggins for my first time and really loves it but when i press the bags button in-game i get the old bags-frame
17:39.48Adsumis it fixable, is it just a bartender3 problem or what?
17:39.55Anduneadsum: rebind your bag key to open baggins instead.
17:40.04nee|lapTular: It's not Ace
17:40.13nee|lapIt's made by Gazmik Fizzwidget
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17:42.52Smeltn`on the new Aceupdater
17:43.00Smeltn`which is the best server to use to get updates?
17:44.25nee|lapwowace.com/files
17:44.29AdsumAndune, i dont mean on my keyboard i mean the one by my system buttons
17:44.34nee|lapunless it's patch-day
17:44.57Anduneadsum: ah.  I use FuBar, baggins has a built-in FuBar for your bags.  So I just click on that.
17:45.58Adsumyeah but then i have to relearn clicking on fubar instead :O
17:55.23Smeltn`any suggestions for a good quest tracker on your screen?
17:55.33Smeltn`my questfu is currently borked
17:57.02Andunesmeltn: some people like monkeyquest.  I kinda got tired of it, and believe it or not, I just use the default quest tracker now.  It's not intrusive and it uses my ClearFont, so I like it  :)
17:58.33nee|lapQuestFu works here
17:59.02odti think the tracker font in questfu is too small though
17:59.09AdsumSmeltn`, Extended quest log
17:59.15nee|lapodt: change the scale
17:59.26Smeltn`well I want one on screen
17:59.29AdsumMonkeyquest got messed up after 2.03 :(
17:59.30nee|lapthe default is 75%
17:59.38Smeltn`I used Monkeyquest forever
17:59.40odtok, gonna do it next time when i'm in game
17:59.46Smeltn`then went to questfu
17:59.53Smeltn`but of course didnt need one for MONTHS
17:59.58Smeltn`since I was 60 and didnt do quests
17:59.59Smeltn`lol
18:00.15Smeltn`now its time to find another on screen
18:01.06kergothAdsum, all quest addons had to adapt to blizzard's change in the quest api
18:01.25kergothlike a one line change generally :P
18:02.06Adsumkergoth, yeah i know, but all the beauty of monkey quest dissapeared with the freedom... but hey! I dont blame ppl for still using it, nothing like that, i just got a bit sad because of some of the changes
18:02.53FroMasterWhat mods are Healers using these days to assist with casting the right spell level, click casting, etc?
18:02.54kergoththe main reason i use it is monkeyquestlog
18:02.56kergothkicks ass
18:03.08Adsumanyone got a suggestion for a good unitframe mod?
18:03.14nee|lapFroMaster: Clique or Click2Cast
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18:03.48kergothAdsum, aguf
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18:04.01Adsumand a question: Is there a easy way of changing keybindings for bartender3 except in the options menu?
18:04.02FroMasterAdsum: ag_UF all the way
18:04.08trh_hididiliho #wowace
18:04.16Adsumcool then ill try it out
18:05.26Adsumoh and a addon manager anyone?
18:06.16nee|lapmcp
18:06.56Gnarfoz<Adsum> Monkeyquest got messed up after 2.03 :( <- try... "updating"
18:06.56Gnarfoz;p
18:07.42Adsumdid that, it worked all the time just not the way i wanted
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18:08.19FroMasterIs there a more general WoW channel on here? (I got some non-Ace related questions)
18:09.16Adsumnee|lap, is there any more updated versions then the one on cursed?
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18:13.15art3miswow
18:13.20art3misi LOVE the new host
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18:15.06art3misoh i thought up a new addon idea that i dont believe i've seen before
18:15.25nee|lapAdsum: if you mean Levelator, get the one from the homepage
18:15.39nee|lapgoogle for fizzwidget levelator and you'll find it
18:16.02art3misbut i  suck at lua so here it is: A small configureable and moveable bar, that reads your inventory and adds any "items you need to use or active for quests"
18:16.21art3misso you dont need to go looking through your bags
18:16.24Adsumnee|lap, no i actually mean mcp :)
18:16.30nee|lapah
18:16.35nee|lapget the one from wowace.com/files
18:16.37art3misis such an idear possible?
18:16.40nee|lapFubar_MCP or such
18:16.42nee|lapit has it
18:17.29Adsumah thanks
18:17.47Gnarfozart3mis: what do you mean? :)
18:17.53kergothart3mis, its certainly possible, worst case you could watch for a loot of an item immediately after accepting a quest for items gained
18:17.57kergothi dunno if its been done though
18:18.11Gnarfozautobar has a 'quest items' category, already
18:18.24Adsumcould anyone motivate why every ace plugin has the libs imbedded?
18:18.32kergothi dont think all the items in question are properly categorized as quest items
18:18.40kergothAdsum, thats how an embedded library works..
18:18.45kergothits _embedded_ in the addon
18:18.53kergothso that it works even without any dependencies
18:19.09kergothonly one instance of each lib will actually exist in ram after loading, so dont worry about it
18:19.24Adsumyeah but shouldn't it waste alot of space on the harddrive?
18:19.41Adsumand even if its not alot its still wasted?
18:19.42kergothooh, whole kilobytes!
18:19.44kergothwhatever will you do!
18:19.45kergothyes.
18:19.52kergoththe benefits are worth the miniscule cost
18:20.08kergothbut you can go standalones isntead of embedded if you like, for your addon set
18:20.20kergothits your call, and you wont get support from us if you run into headaches with it
18:20.33Adsumok ;)
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18:21.05kergothi go standalones personally, but only to cut the loading time a little
18:23.11CyrezI'm trying to cut down on loading time but now I think it's not any of the Ace stuff I'm using. ;)
18:24.02ckknight_hey all, back
18:24.34ckknight_ag`: pong
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18:25.39Cyrezckknight: Oh, good, you're here! Cartographer's SVN externals are messed up. It's trying to pull the Roster lib from Dev instead of SVN.
18:26.05ckknightwhoops.
18:26.47paranoidiis there nice hookup for received dmg (per hit) in ace2?
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18:30.13vid`standalones are better imo
18:30.28vid`plus it's less load on the server you are leecing from :P
18:30.32vid`especially if you have a lot of mods
18:30.41vid`you arent sucking down deps for 100 mods each time you update
18:32.07Ominous~seen nadas
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18:34.35KarlThePaganGagorian, ping
18:36.11Gagorianhmm
18:39.09ThraeGrrr. Addons still disconnecting me.
18:39.27kergoth:(
18:40.18Adsumanyone got a suggestion for a eye-candy'ish unitframe addon?
18:41.26shieldbAdsum, depends on what you mean by "eye-candy'ish" :)
18:41.44shieldbI think some of the ag layouts are pretty nice, but that might not be the right direction for you
18:42.20Adsumag was nice but no portrait
18:42.28shieldbthere's portraits
18:42.30nee|lapag_UF has a portrait
18:42.31nee|lap3D even
18:42.42shieldbyou have to alt right click on the portraits and go "show portrait" :)
18:42.47nee|lapYou just have to select one of the layouts that supports it and then enable it
18:42.53shieldbor go through the menu and enable it that way
18:42.57shieldberr, alt right click on the frame
18:43.30Adsumoh!? cool, have to check it out
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18:47.09KarlThePaganah Gagorian sorry (leveling) ;)
18:47.16KarlThePaganso DrDamage - WTB these calculation options
18:47.23snurregod i love this mount
18:47.26snurredefinitely worth 6k gold
18:47.35KarlThePaganexclude critical strikes
18:47.38KarlThePaganshow maximum only
18:47.40KarlThePaganshow minimum only
18:47.43KarlThePaganshow critical only
18:48.02KarlThePaganI really need no crits show min only
18:49.16KarlThePaganshadow word death mistakes kill me
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18:51.05kenlyric|homeI haven't tested it yet... does a sw:d self-kill cause item damage?
18:52.59KarlThePaganno
18:53.02KarlThePaganwhich is very nice
18:53.05Industrialsnurre: what mount
18:53.11KarlThePaganthe worst tho is you don't kill the mob then it kills you
18:53.18Industrialsnurre: YOU HAVE 6k GOLD?!
18:53.25Industrialhad*
18:54.13KarlThePaganke
18:54.41ggilbertlevelling to 70 will easilly get you a thousand gold, and it's not unheard of to have a stockpile of 5 going in
18:55.00snurreIndustrial: had
18:55.03snurreonly 1k left on my char now
18:55.10snurrestill 8.6k on the account tho
18:55.27Industrialni hao >_o
18:55.37snurreggilbert: lvling 60-70 gave me 2.2k gold
18:55.48snurrewithout selling any greens, blues or cloth
18:55.54ggilbertI could see that.
18:56.05paranoidiI could not, how the heck did you get so much? :D
18:56.16snurrequesting
18:56.23kenlyric|homeman, I could spend weeks in the dead mire.. Rep grind + skins +herbskins + herbs = fun!
18:56.26snurrestill have shadowmoon valley and half netherstorm tho
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19:02.40nee|lapgrind = boring :(
19:12.25snurreif i didnt have the gold, i'd buy it from some chinafarmer
19:12.25snurrewhich i will probably do if i lvl another char to 70
19:12.25snurreafter trying it, there is no damn way ill play wow without one
19:12.54ggilbertI think they kind of screwed up with flying mounts. The speed difference between epic and non epic is way too large
19:13.15OvrLrd-Qyea, I had about a thousand at 60
19:13.28OvrLrd-Qbut the cost of the epic training skill is . . . large as well
19:13.35snurre60% vs 280% is insane
19:13.37kenlyric|homewhat'st he push to get the faster one?
19:13.47snurrethe gold reflects the difference quite accurately imo
19:13.51kenlyric|homeisn't the regular flying mount 150%?
19:13.51ggilbertkenlyric|home: It's much much faster?
19:13.58snurreregular is 60% running and flying
19:14.01snurreit's slow
19:14.13kenlyric|homeso, why even buy a slow flying mount?
19:14.15vid`epic flying mount is faster than the bats/gryphons etc
19:14.24snurreyeah
19:14.27vid`you need flying mount to get in one of the instances
19:14.28ggilbertkenlyric|home:  It's 5000 gold cheaper.
19:14.28kenlyric|homethey should give us a slow one earlier... giving them both at 70 seems silly.
19:14.35snurreand perfect pathing instead of shitty flight paths
19:14.54OvrLrd-Qyea but ones *alot* cheaper then the other kenlyric|home
19:15.02snurrei think they wait with giving them to 70 to slow down lvling a bit
19:15.06ggilbertand a flying mount is pretty necessary at 70
19:15.10snurrecause you save like 50% of the time by this mount
19:15.12ggilbertso you can't make them all 5k gold
19:16.04Leaf_ArchimondeCan't understood why Blizzard implements Enable() / Disable() instead of Enable(true) and Enable(false) ;(. Maybe, i got something wrong? Any hints ?
19:19.17_neuron_whats the url to that warcraft sdk I've seen spammed in here a few times?
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19:29.34AdsumLeaf_Archimonde, to make it easier to understand
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19:31.38snurrehm, how do i see bankbags with Baggins?
19:32.21Leaf_ArchimondeAnother noob question: checkbox's 'sensitive' are extends alot to the right from it. How can i reduce it so only clicking exactly on checkbox produce the result ?
19:32.28Adirellesnurre => check if "hide default bank" is enabled or not
19:33.17snurrefound it
19:33.18yacoobI saw 'how do I see gangbangs with Baggins'
19:33.45Adirelleyacoob, please go away of the classroom plz
19:40.51LeialynAnyone knows which cartographer plugin is sending sync notes over guild addon channel ?
19:41.03Srosh~framexml
19:41.15purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip
19:41.31Srosh_neuron_, there you have it
19:41.48_neuron_oh thanks :)
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19:46.56Feldiackknight: any idea when cartographer is going to have maps for all the tbc instances?
19:48.16PProvostag`, a few of us last night were talking and it appears there is something preventing buffs from showing on party frames. You aware of that?
19:48.29kergoththis is fucking weird
19:48.38kergothi disable vbagnon and enable warmup and reload, and vbagnon is running and warmup isnt
19:48.42ThraeAlright, I think I diagnosed my random DC problem to my network card, not any addons I have installed. I'm getting bad pings in WoW compared to someone else I know in MD.
19:49.05Thraekergoth: What addon are you using to enable/disable addons?
19:49.11GagorianKarlThePagan: Disable everything except avg damage?
19:49.15kergothi've tried /ace enable/disable as well as overlord
19:49.30kergothits like something is screwing with EnableAddOn
19:49.43Thraekergoth: I use MCP, try MCPFu or grab MCP at one of the addon sites
19:49.51ThraeNever had a problem.
19:50.13ThraeMCPFu is kinda  hog when you open it, I prefer the Devla patched MCP.
19:50.18kergothi've seen this behavior with mcp as well./
19:50.27kergothits something else in my set fucking up anything that tries to enable/disable an addon
19:50.42Thraekergoth: Try deleting Addons.txt
19:50.53kergoththats what i did last time, yet here i am again
19:50.54kergothhehe
19:50.56kergothi dunno
19:51.39kergothah well, /me wipes it again
19:52.37ckknightis files still busted?
19:52.39Diabolic-Destinyanyone know of a good FLV > mpg converter
19:52.43Diabolic-Destinythats free?
19:52.59Thraekergoth: Remember that's a global Addons.txt and one for each character
19:53.04Thraes/that/there/
19:53.18kergothspeaking of which, i fucking hate the way blizzard handles that
19:53.40krynnamen
19:54.00ThraeWhich is why I like MCP ;)
19:54.11Diabolic-Destinyis battleground_fu still faruked?
19:54.18kergothoverlord is nicer than mcp, lets you select a block of addons like selecting files in windows, and enable/disable the selected addons
19:54.23kergothclick, shift click farther down..
19:54.40Thraekergoth: Is it bulky like LoadIt used to be?
19:54.55kergothoverlord is tem's, what do you think?
19:55.00kergothno, its minimal and easy to use
19:55.38kergothhmm, i should level my warlock
19:56.13Diabolic-Destinyne 1 know about battleground Fu?
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19:59.01nee|lapI've used it a lot, what about it?
20:01.00maiackknight: ping
20:01.29ckknightmaia: pong
20:02.19maiackknight: I'm having a hard time figuring out which addon is tainting frames - which is why I installed TaintChecker. Unfortunately I don't really understand what information /taint diff really give me that would help.
20:02.43ckknightyou run the checker, you load a mod, then run it again
20:02.47maiaI get a list of tainted frames, bu
20:02.50maiaerr.
20:02.51ckknightthus giving you the difference between states.
20:03.14Adsumwhere can i get this overlord from? :O
20:03.16maiawell, I ran it, then spent an hour in combat, ran /taint rescan and then /taint diff. thats correct?
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20:03.53Nightdewwhich ace addon adds coords to the world map?
20:04.07[dRaCo]cartographer
20:04.20Nightdewis that a replacement for atlast>?
20:04.22Nightdewatlas
20:04.26kergothAdsum, its in the tardmrr google code svn repository.  its not released, so if it explodes or steals your girlfriend, dont blame tem
20:04.28[dRaCo]yeah
20:04.33[dRaCo]modular, though.
20:04.41kergoth:)
20:04.44ckknightmaia: well, that could show something.
20:04.52ckknightNightdew: Cartographer.
20:04.52maiackknight: well, and the tainted frames mostly are WorldMapFramePOIn and a few others.
20:05.04Adsumkergoth, noted
20:05.16ckknightyea, what you did likely didn't do much of anything, hate to say
20:05.41maiackknight: so I'd have to run TaintChecker for each of the addons I'm using, while disabling all others?
20:05.46kergothmm acolyte is nice
20:06.01ckknightmaia: you don't have to disable all others, just run, load the new one, run again
20:06.18ckknightit's mostly a tool for authors to check what things you're tainting
20:06.28kergothi'd just do a binary search. disalbe half your addons, fight, see if it went away, etc, myself
20:07.27maiackknight: I have no 'new' one. I can play without problems, just that BugSack sometimes spams me with tainted frames after an hour of running instances. I can't reproduce it, and neither would I have any idea which new addon this might be (didnt really add anything since 2.0.1)
20:07.56Adirelle~seen Kodewulf
20:08.27purlkodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-39-132.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 11m 9s ago, saying: 'ckknight: wish list updated. :)'.
20:08.36Adirelleanyone knows if Kodewulf is still working on carto quest and trainer moduiles ?
20:09.09maiakergoth: if I could simply reproduce the tainting, I'd test all addons, but as it takes up to an hour this is not a real option.
20:09.16kergoth:(
20:09.19kergoththat sucks
20:09.42maiawell, I hoped TaintChecker could solve the problem. apparently not ;)
20:10.01PProvostSo, for anyone who has seen issues where the buffs disappear in agUF for party frames, dumping your SV solves it.
20:10.08kergothafaik all taintchecker does is compares state of the lua env
20:10.13kergothto see what got tainted
20:10.20kergothbut you'd still have to isolate the addon..
20:10.34maiakergoth: yeah - but I hoped the list of frames would allow to track down the addon
20:10.38PProvostAnother AGUF question: Has anyone figured out how to make the party pet stack with the party? I hoped I could use "Group Name" for that, but I can't figure it out.
20:10.50Nargiddleymaia, do you still have the list somewhere ?
20:11.02maiaNargiddley: yes, I SS'ed it
20:11.15Nargiddleycan i see it
20:11.28maiagive me a sec.
20:12.16Nargiddleyif its not happening for an hour, it might be possible to track down with the list you created
20:12.20Nightdewanyone remember the command paramter for wow to skip the launcher?
20:12.56ggilbertjust run wow.exe
20:13.13maiaNargiddley: I'm uploading 3 screens. the first one was the diff after the first error in bugsack. about 30min later I was spammed with new tainting errors, then I reran /taint rescan and did another diff.
20:13.53maiaNargiddley: the first one is: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4021/bild17or.png
20:14.13maiathe other two are http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3475/bild24le.png and http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1236/bild36lg.png
20:16.01maiaafter the last 2 screens my agUF frames disappeared btw. but usually they are still available, just bugsack spams me.
20:16.31Nargiddleythose are the full lists of the diffs ?
20:17.11Nargiddleyah 2nd one is the same one over two screen ?
20:17.13maiayes, more or less. there were a few more WorldMapFramePOI which I didnt SS
20:17.30Nargiddleythats fine
20:19.07Nargiddleydo you have the error you were getting for the 2nd one ?
20:19.28maiasec.
20:20.25maiae.g.: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'AuldLangSyne' tried to call the protected function 'ShapeshiftButton10:Hide()
20:20.40maia<event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'AuldLangSyne' tried to call the protected function 'aUFtargettarget:Hide()
20:21.16maiaplus a few other ShapeShiftButtonX... and auf frames
20:21.40maiabut I really doubt agUF or Bartender3 taint something. Otherwise lots of people would have reported it, right?
20:28.29KarlThePaganGagorian, I need minimum damage displayed :( and i don't see how to disable crit in the spell icon overlay
20:29.08kenlyric|homemaia are you getting one error for all 10 shapeshiftbuttons ?
20:29.21maiayes
20:29.39kenlyric|homeyeah, I'm getting the exact same thing, theough in mine it's Addon 'Fubar'
20:30.04maiawell, its probably just the first addon that's Ace2 - therefor irrelevant afaik.
20:30.33Nargiddleydo you have the full error bugsack gave ?
20:30.42kenlyric|homeit tries to Show() button 1, and hide() the rest of them.
20:31.28kenlyric|homehttp://ace.pastey.net/5182
20:32.28maiaNargiddley: e.g. http://pastebin.ca/322859
20:32.49maiaafk for a few min
20:33.30Nargiddleyok
20:33.42Nargiddleythe cause is an addon tainting the global "button"
20:34.03Nargiddleywait, that could be a symptom ><
20:34.13kenlyric|homeseems odd that it's limited to this one bar.
20:34.25kenlyric|homedon't get the error on any toon who doesn't have a shapeshift bar.
20:34.50NargiddleyShapeshiftBar_UpdateState uses the global variable 'button'
20:35.02Nargiddleyshould probably be a local, and might be in other places
20:39.42kergothhmmm
20:40.00kergothmy rogue is currently herbalist/engineer, but i want to drop engineering... my shaman is a 300 alchemist and a 300 leatherworker...
20:40.05kergothwhat should i replace engineering with? :)
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20:41.03Insaskinning?
20:41.12Insathat would make sense as you ahve herb/alch and leatherworking
20:41.22cynyrkergoth: what everyone is doing.. jewelcrafting
20:41.54kenlyric|homecash > *
20:43.47maiahmm
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20:47.09maiawell, about 50% of my addons are using 'button' somewhere. gah.
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20:47.21Nargiddleyit might not be that
20:47.47Nargiddleylooking at that error tho, try unloading teksupport
20:47.55maiaits usually unloaded
20:47.59Nargiddleyk
20:48.39kergothcynyr, well, downside to that is i have no high lever miners
20:48.55kergothguess i could go skinning on the rogue and level my new blood elf and make him a miner/jewelcrafter
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20:50.15Fisker-blood elf what?
20:51.34kenlyric|homedamn applie dicks.
20:51.47kenlyric|homebe nice if they actually read message before they sent a canned response.
20:52.51kergothlock
20:52.57kergothwas gonna go pally, but theres enough of those
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20:53.20kergothi hate addons that use the layout cache for positioning
20:53.37kenlyric|homekergoth, oh, you mean every addon that's not ace? ;)
20:53.43kergothsome ace ones too :(
20:53.44kenlyric|home*Ace'd
20:53.54kenlyric|homehaven't found one of those yet.
20:54.13krkawhat's wrong with the layout cache?
20:54.17kenlyric|homeonly oddity in ace addons I have is SCT not using (or having) a default profile
20:54.34krkai even use the layout cache for saving other kinds of settings
20:54.44krkano need to declare saved variables!
20:55.06kenlyric|homekrka: get up to having 8 alts and you might know the problem with using the layout cache rather than the saved variable to store position data.
20:55.11kergotheavesdrop doesnt handle its position itself, it relies on the layout cache :|
20:55.20kergothindeed
20:55.38kergothnot storing it in the nicely set up profile (global, class specific, whatever) is incredibly nice
20:55.42kergoths/^not //
20:55.45kergothheh
20:56.11Nargiddleyok maia, it isnt button thats the cause
20:56.12kenlyric|homedefault profiles and position data in SV are the primary reasons I use Ace addons. 1 setup, 9 toons.
20:56.39kergothwoot, my bro is a skinner/miner
20:56.45kergothi'll take jewelcrafting
20:56.50kenlyric|homeheh.
20:56.53kergothand he can supply my rogue with ore and my shaman with leather
20:56.57kergothheh
20:57.08kenlyric|homei'm gonna take gold instead.
20:57.22kergothheh
20:57.35kergothi need to learn to make money in wow
20:57.41kergothi suck at it, other than the occasional ah playing
20:57.43kenlyric|homeskinning/mining.
20:58.03kenlyric|homeused to be skinning/herbalism, but I bet ore goes up in value with all the jewelcrafters.
20:58.09sergioi need heavy leather
20:58.11sergiokthx
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20:58.19kergothhehe
20:58.26kenlyric|homei'm skinning/herbalism, and it's a constant influx of cash.
20:58.27ThraeWell I narrowed down my problem to my cable modem. Power cycling it fixed the packet loss.
20:59.17kenlyric|homeherbalism gathers a lot faster than mining, so it's nicer for a levelling toon.
21:00.01Thraekenlyric|home: I'm thinking of adding Prospecting at level 58 as I think lots of people will want to raise their Jewelcrafting quickly.
21:00.27kenlyric|homeThrae: ?
21:00.27Amadeobleh, the Ubuntu community pisses me off, such a huge resource of people with no real answers to anything..unless it's already in a wiki
21:00.59kenlyric|homeevery jewelcrafter gets prospecting.
21:01.08ggilbertWhat is your problem?
21:01.20kenlyric|homewell, for starters he's using ubuntu
21:01.34Amadeohaha
21:01.40Thraekenlyric|home: Ah cool, so the mat gatherer ability comes along with the profession? Or is it like Disenchanting?
21:01.48ggilbertpardon me for wanting to be helpful.
21:01.52kenlyric|homeThrae: it's exactly like disenchanting.
21:02.05AmadeoAnytime I have a problem, I post it on the forums or ask in the help channel...and get...no help, or someone who doesn't read anything I say and gives me help I don't need...just bugs me
21:02.05kenlyric|homeyou can buy or mine the ore, and prospect it.
21:02.20Amadeoggilbert: I'm just trying to get more framerate in WoW out of my hardware
21:02.26[dRaCo]Tornhoof: can I request one more feature? ;)
21:02.30kenlyric|homeso far, it's worked every time... 1 gem + trash for 5 ore.
21:02.43kenlyric|homegiven how often you get gems in the wild  while mining, that's a pretty good return.
21:02.47ggilbertAmadeo: What framerate are you seeing?
21:03.16Amadeoggilbert: 15-20 fps in wine with the latest Nvidia drivers, and about 45-50 in Windows
21:03.32kenlyric|homeThrae: that's why I think mining is going to be a better cash crop than herbalism for a while...a ll those jewelcrafters wanting to buy raw ore.
21:03.44Thraekenlyric|home: Hmmm, maybe I'll just stick with Mining then
21:03.51kenlyric|homethen when everyone hits 70 and starts raiding again, it'll be herbalism again.
21:04.13ggilbertAmadeo: Ah.
21:04.16sevencorvinaAmadeo, which version of WINE? (Finally, I feel useful)
21:04.22Amadeohaha
21:04.46Amadeo0.9.29 with the OpenGL registry entry
21:04.50AmadeoI think that's the version number
21:05.03kenlyric|homeThrae: yeah, i would.
21:05.13sevencorvinaAmadeo, is it 15-20 outdoors or always?
21:05.18Amadeooutdoors
21:05.24Amadeoif I could get it up to 30, I'd be happy
21:05.58ggilbertAmadeo: do you care about "pretty?"
21:06.01sevencorvinaIt seems to be a problem with the rendering; too many polygons is the only thing people are assuming. I'm pulling 30 on the beta NV drivers outdoors at the moment.
21:06.14Amadeoggilbert: Not really, as long as it's not terrible
21:06.30ggilbertI've had some really good luck with turning off all of the shader effects
21:06.45ggilbertIt looks uglier though
21:06.45AmadeoI did that :) the game doesn't even look much different to me with them off
21:06.51ggilberthmm
21:06.56Amadeosevencorvina: Which are the betas? I'm using 97.46
21:07.48sevencorvinaI didn't update to 9746.
21:08.11sevencorvina9742 did me perfectly.
21:08.11ggilbertand you said you had the registry entry, was that disabling the fixed buffer extension?
21:08.20Amadeoggilbert: Yeah, I believe so..I followed a guide to do it
21:08.33AmadeoOpenGL key, DisabledExtensions, then the string
21:08.41kergothag`, acolyte's summon voidwalker and healthstone dont seem to work on my level 18 lock
21:08.58AmadeoWhat's Acolyte?
21:09.03Amadeonew addon?
21:09.28kergothhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4319.0
21:09.41Amadeonice, I needed something like that
21:10.37kergothmodular too, can disable the module for mount, etc if you want
21:11.17ggilbertneat
21:13.14AmadeoDoes it have any timers at all, such as for Soulstone?
21:14.19kergothdoubt it, probably expects you to have some other timer addon
21:14.23AmadeoI see a 28, I guess that's shard count
21:15.56ggilbertThe number one thing I think blizzard could do to improve the UI is to come up with a better way to handle the ton of utility spells they pass out
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21:19.15Tularwhats a good addon that will show me the quest levels?
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21:20.44ckknightQuestsFu
21:21.12pogotribalSo for the past week people have talked about all these little bugs and I didn't understand why I wasn't getting them.
21:21.17pogotribalUntil I installed TBC last night.
21:21.36Gnarfozwhich bugs?
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21:21.52pogotribalLike Bartender's cooldowns.
21:21.56Gnarfozhuh?
21:22.01Gnarfozbartender does not have cooldowns anymore
21:22.09Gnarfozuse another addon for that, like OmniCC
21:22.14maiaNargiddley: thanks.
21:22.16Gnarfoz:}
21:22.25AmadeoOmniCC has always served me well
21:22.33Industrial<--^
21:22.38pogotribalI know Gnarfox, I've been using the old BT fine until I installed TBC last night.
21:22.44AmadeoWell, except for one point in time when the cooldowns went to 0 :)
21:22.46pogotribalYou need to learn inference.
21:22.54Gnarfozurgh, I have 'sound in background' enabled and now someone at the bank is grinding jewels *annoying sound* :D
21:23.12Gnarfozso, _what_ did you infer?
21:23.25Amadeohaha, I hate the new crafting sounds
21:23.30Amadeothey are like nails on a chalkboard
21:23.59pogotribalThat I didn't have problems with Bartender's cooldowns until I installed TBC?
21:24.13Gnarfozbartender does not have cooldowns, how can you have problems with them? :p
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21:24.24Gnarfoz=D
21:24.31pogotribalAnd obviously since I'm talking about Bartender having cooldowns, it's an old revision that I had.
21:24.35Gnarfozsorry if I'm being dense or something, I just don't get it ;)
21:24.37Gnarfozah
21:24.37pogotribalFFS, I'm not talking to you anymore.
21:25.28Gnarfozyeah whatever
21:25.46nee|lapGet OmniCC if you want cooldowns with Bartender now.
21:26.10Gnarfoz(I think he understood that, guessing from his reaction :D)
21:27.05IndustrialNargiddley: ping
21:27.08kergothpogotribal, he may need to learn inference, but you need to learn to pull the stick out of your ass.
21:27.14kergothgo ahead, try it.
21:27.15kergothi'll wait.
21:27.36AmadeoI used that line yesterday! Well, it was similar anyway
21:27.56NargiddleyIndustrial, yeah ?
21:28.34IndustrialNargiddley: Wouldnt you think that grey-usable items belong in the grey items group rather then the weapons/armor group?
21:28.45pogotribalI don't like have to re-explain myself when it's pretty clear what I meant.
21:28.48IndustrialNargiddley: its trash and noone should ever ever wear a grey item
21:29.33NargiddleyIndustrial, i think I added that rule to my setup yesterday in fact :D
21:29.33GnarfozRP people do, sometimes
21:29.49NargiddleyI'll get around to putting it into the defaults sometime
21:29.55Industrial\o/ thanks
21:30.13IndustrialGnarfoz: well thats an exception :P
21:30.16Nargiddleycan just add a rule to the weapons and armor categories
21:30.22NargiddleyNOT Quality == 0
21:30.29IndustrialI could go as far as saying that you shouldnt wear white armor/weapons too.
21:30.30Nargiddleyits basicly all i did
21:30.38Nargiddleyyeah
21:30.41Gnarfozyeah, but I guess for Baggins's purposes, grey == trash serves better
21:30.47Gnarfozthan grey-equippable = armor
21:30.52Nargiddleywhite weapons/armor should appear in the trash category as well
21:31.06pogotribalI'm gonna try Cooldowncount.
21:31.11Gnarfozmost of the time at least - it's all customisable anyway
21:31.22pogotribalI don't need any mods that aren't on Aceupdate.
21:31.41Nargiddleythe idea with Baggins was create the category system so you can set it up how you want :P
21:31.42Industrialpogotribal: haha thats pretty dumb
21:31.48kergothomnicc is efficient and functional. pogo's ignorance is showing.
21:31.51kergothquick, hide it.
21:31.52kenlyric|homepogotribal: that's the one I went with.
21:31.55pogotribalhaha you're pretty dumb
21:31.59pogotribalWow, opinions are fun!
21:32.08Nargiddleyso if to you white items are trash, modify the rules for it :D
21:32.13Industrialpogotribal: you are missing out on a great deal of addons
21:32.19kergothyeah, especially when they're like yours. foundless and pointless.
21:32.23Industrialpogotribal: good addons.
21:32.24kergothi especially love those opinions
21:32.33Gnarfozuse what works for you, IMHO, still - an addon not being on the ace SVN does not mean anything besides it not being there
21:32.48pogotribalIndustrial: no I'm not, I've tried lots of non-Ace addons and I don't find anything I need that's not on Aceupdate
21:32.53kenlyric|homehmmmm... I value using only mods that i can update with wau... it appeals to my laziness.
21:33.16pogotribalAnd it's a fucking cooldown count FFS, I doubt OmniCC is giving me so much extra functionality that Cooldowncount doesn't.
21:33.27Industrialpogotribal: what made you think that only good addons use ace, thus searching for addons that use ace makes your experience Better(tm) ?
21:33.27pogotribalYeah kergoth thanks, you're a champ too.
21:33.56Industrialseriously, im quite fascinated :)
21:34.00kenlyric|homeGnarfoz: it means I have to work at it. Don't wanna unless I have to (like I do with smartbuff)
21:34.08pogotribalThe Aceupdater shows descriptions, that's all I want to know. I don't like slagging through dozens of crappy add-ons on typical addon sites just to find the gem in the rough.
21:34.36AmadeoA gem like OmniCC?
21:34.41Industrialpogotribal: thats weird because afaik searching on a website with categories is a hell of alot faster then one big directory with everything
21:35.06kenlyric|homeassuming any of the mod websites have useful categories. Which they do not.
21:35.08Gnarfozanyway, you miss out on the other stuff in the rough - an addon on the SVN might be not the gem, but just some ... rock or whatever, analogies suck
21:35.19Industrialpogotribal: also, you are admitting to wanting less good addons just because you are lazy?
21:35.26kenlyric|homeAmadeo: i'd like to see why omnicc is such a gem over cooldowncount.
21:35.54kenlyric|homeomnicc has more options.
21:35.59GnarfozI've never even used cooldowncount and noone has said anything against cooldowncount. OmniCC was just the first to be recommended
21:36.01kenlyric|homeoptions I do not need.
21:36.09pogotribalIndustrial: How about I do what's been working for me and you get off my ass? You're patronizing me for the sake of discussion.
21:36.20pogotribalI've installed countless addons from countless categories on countless sites.
21:36.30[FH]Birdemanithats alot
21:36.33pogotribalI use Ace2 almost excusively now because it has what I need and I don't need any more.
21:36.36Industrialkenlyric|home: by all means use what you think is best, but dont dismiss another addon without having used it (i assume you do because you know the differences).
21:37.00pogotribalIt's a cooldown timer for action bars FFS, I don't want options.
21:37.04pogotribalI just want it to work.
21:37.08Industrialpogotribal: im just making my same point again.
21:37.14kenlyric|homeIndustrial: except now I pretty much do that. If there's a usable ace addon, I go for that one first. Because I'm lazy.
21:37.20kenlyric|homeThat's why I use mods in the first place. Lazy.
21:37.24pogotribalGive me big yellow numbers that tell me how much time until I can use something again. Thanks.
21:37.40art3misis visor the only frame mover for wowace?
21:37.49pogotribalIf there are options above and beyond setting text font, color, and size, then the add-on is already bloated and I don't want it.
21:37.50ggilbertI want my numbers to be blue
21:37.52KaeltenKC_Mobility does it too
21:37.52Gnarfozwhat if they're blue by default, and no options? :D
21:37.52Amadeokenlyric|home: Oh, I'm not sure if it's better or worse, but OmniCC is very light and does what it says...count your cooldowns :)
21:37.55Gnarfozsucks then ^^
21:38.03art3misis it closer to visor or moveanything?
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21:38.26Gnarfozanyway, have fun flaming each other, gotta get some exp :p
21:38.26art3misone of the things that bugs my about visor is that it treats the fu_quest tracker as like 14 different windows
21:38.53Gnarfozart3mis: most likely it is like 14 different (sub-)frames then?
21:39.05art3misnods but move anything treated it as a single frame
21:39.08Industrialart3mis: you can drag dewdrops around most of the time..
21:40.32Industrialpogotribal: I give up, you are too stubborn to see my point.
21:41.02art3misoh and i'd still love for someone to create an autobar type bar that loads up quest items that you need to use, like bombs etc etc. automagically as you gain the quests
21:41.38nee|lapuse Baggins and open the Quest baq
21:41.40nee|lap*bag
21:41.44pogotribalIndustrial: Nope, I'm not. You're making a point based on my personal preference of downloading add-ons. Basically, you're point means jack shit.
21:41.48art3misdont like baggins layout
21:41.54ggilbert... awesome. I'll have to try that
21:42.07art3misor look
21:42.42art3misbut i suppose i could rip the questpart from that addon and make my own huh
21:43.06Industrialart3mis: you can change the look and layout of baggins :P
21:43.08art3miskael incase you didnt see the emssage before thanks for the new host... i love the speed for the updatr now
21:43.29pogotribalI noticed how fast it went.
21:43.36art3misits amazing now
21:43.55art3mismakes me wanna add warez tothe svn ;P
21:44.03art3mishrm
21:44.09art3misi suppose i can give it a try again
21:44.22art3misdoes baggins have bank frame as well?
21:44.23snurreSeed of Corruption is made of win
21:44.29art3misyes it is
21:44.30Industrialpogotribal: well more clearly: Ace or Ace2 is tnot a status. Do not dismiss addons because they do not use Ace2. There are addons on the svn that do not use Ace2 and some addons dont benefit from using Ace2 (like OmniCC). If I were to make a cooldown count addon I wouldnt use Ace2 because it does not benefit from it.
21:44.44Industrialpogotribal: as a user you shouldnt be concerned about the backend of addons, only about the frontend.
21:44.53art3mislaugh
21:45.10IndustrialI just want to make that clear, your final decision on what you will use does not concern me
21:47.29krkai for one agree with Industrial
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21:48.27pogotribalWell now that he actually made his point.
21:48.31pogotribalI agree as well.
21:49.00AmadeoWith women, it's good to consider both ends
21:49.27TainGabby Johnson is right!
21:49.30AmadeoOr men, if that's your thing!
21:50.02kenlyric|homeas a user, I'm concerned about the amount of time i spend updating 100 addons :)
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21:50.50art3misind omniCC uses ace1?
21:51.08Industrialer, no
21:51.09AmadeoIt's not an Ace addon
21:51.20kenlyric|homeneed an option in wau that allows you to automatically select your installed addons. Hitting F4 takes too long.
21:51.29art3mislaugh
21:51.35AmadeoThat option is already in there
21:51.42AmadeoMark Installed Addons
21:51.47kenlyric|homeno, you have to hit F4
21:51.54kenlyric|homeway too much work.
21:52.02Amadeooh, I see what you did there!
21:52.15Industrial~lart kenlyric|home
21:52.23kenlyric|homemake it an option in the preferences.
21:52.30art3misken wants an "update my wowace stuff in onebutton"
21:52.47Industrialkenlyric|home: well mr PProvost is right here in this channel. go asn ask him.
21:52.53kenlyric|homeI'm actually halfway serious. It takes valuable playtime away hitting that button ;)
21:53.15kenlyric|homeI work really really hard at working as little as possible.
21:53.47kenlyric|homepurl is hot for me.
21:54.37art3miswso is there a cooldown counter for wowace that works proper or should i just put omni back?
21:54.41pogotribalDoes anyone know a good "getting started" web site or forum thread? My friend's an Ace2 noob and after seeing my screenshot he wants to start smoking the crack that is Ace2.
21:54.48tlundI have two weird (and probably related) problems with cartographer. I installed all of the modules and a friend shared all his notes with me. All his herbalism nodes in BC show up as black squares with a red questionmark on them (problem 1), and i cannot figure out how to remove them. even after i configure it to not show herbalism at all, they are still there (problem 2). anyone have any ideas?
21:55.58kenlyric|home<PROTECTED>
21:56.06kenlyric|homeor was that just me?
21:56.17pogotribalThat sounds... not fun.
21:56.25Adsumtlund, you have a different icon pack?
21:56.35tlundAdsum: I have both of them.
21:56.40tlundand I enabled both
21:56.50Adsumtlund, try only enabeling one or none
21:56.56tlundtried that, no difference.
21:57.07Adsumok, too bad
21:57.08tlundbut no matter what icons i have, shouldnt I be able to turn them off completely?
21:57.10art3mispurge yer settings?
21:57.30tlundart3mis: but its completely new.
21:57.40krkaheh http://bash.org/?721654
21:58.07kenlyric|homepogotribal: I started with replacing a couple of addons that didn't work after 2.0, liking the idea of shared libs  (and wau, did I mention wau) and then just trial and error figuring out which mods had Ace2 equivs and if they were as good or better.
21:58.40kenlyric|homeart3mis: cooldowncount has worked perfectly for me since the function was removed from bartender.
21:58.41pogotribalBuffolo needs a FuBar icon, or I need a new Buffmod.
21:58.59kenlyric|homeomnicc has a bunch more options... I'd try them both out.
21:59.06ZealotOnAStickpogotribal: DeuceCommander is your friend.
21:59.10kenlyric|homepogotribal: elkbuffbar is what I use.
21:59.14sylvanaartbc is unplayable
21:59.28sylvanaarnon stop world server crashes
22:00.03sylvanaaractually yall
22:00.32pogotribalZealot: Yeah I have duece, but Buffalo is just annoying the way I have to unlock and lock windows, and then the config menu disappears when I move the windows and I gotta go back to Duece and go to Buffalo config options again, it's annoying when trying to tweak a setup. I'm gonna try elkbuffbar
22:00.42sylvanaarthe latest beta of wau you hit f10 and it updates all your stuff
22:01.26steevsylvanaar: lern2server noob.  no world server crashes here
22:01.52sylvanaaryou mean lrn2playonaserverwithnooneonit
22:02.38steevyeah thats what i meant, there's no one on our server, why they offered free character transfers ill have no idea
22:03.58steevworks for me though, means i don't have to fight over mobs in hellfire
22:05.10kergothtlund, that behavior you're encountering sounds like the notes were received and put in the normal cart db, not the herb one.  did you not have the herbalism module loaded at the time when you received the notes?
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22:05.27tlundi installed all of them at the same time
22:05.39tlundFelweed
22:05.44tlundCreated by       Hebalism
22:06.00tlundif i right click it, i cant edit it
22:06.16Sole~seen Elkano
22:06.40purlelkano is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 33m 44s) #wowace (7h 33m 44s), last said: 'pdf would be: 14 Transformations'.
22:06.45kergothweird
22:06.46ElkanoElkano hasn't been seen lately
22:07.12Solefagt
22:07.14Solekekekek
22:07.22Solehey elkano Ive got a suggestion for EBB
22:07.24kergothtlund, so they're controlled by herbalism, but still in the normal cart db (which would be why disabling herbalism doesnt hide them)?  odd
22:07.30Solefrom a guildy of mine
22:07.48tlundkergoth: any ideas? remove saved variables and retry it? or, if you are interested, i am up for debgging/fault isolation :)
22:07.50Soleadd hunter trackings to the buff bar
22:07.55Solekinda like a static buff, no timer
22:08.49Soleelkano?
22:08.51kergothtlund, well, getting rid of those is easy enough, theres a cart function that lets you edit the notes that arent normally allowed to be edited.. but isolating the source of the problem i'm not certain, i'm not intimately familiar with the cart notes communication stuff, probably best off poking ck
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22:09.06kenlyric|homeSole: trackings aren't buffs though.
22:09.13Elkanoin an instace atm, sorry
22:09.31AntiarcWhat's that addon that autosells grey junk?
22:09.38kenlyric|homei imagine trackings are implemented in a compltely different way.
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22:09.48kenlyric|homeAntiarc: GarbageFu and Automaton both do.
22:10.43AntiarcThank you!
22:10.48Solewell its not a buff technically but I could see it being useful
22:10.55ckknighttlund: your issue is fixed in the recent Cart.
22:11.16ckknightit no longer accepts notes from unknown modules
22:11.40KemayoAntiarc: Minimalist will, also.
22:11.47Idylladon't know if anyone knows but cgProfiler - how exactly does one use it? :P)
22:12.03kenlyric|homeI haven'tplayed around with minimalist vs automaton... I probably should.
22:12.04tlundckknight: purge database, upgrade, re-send notes?
22:12.34ckknighttlund: to fix your issue temporarily, load the herbalism mod, which'll transfer the notes to the right database.
22:12.40nee|laphmm
22:12.54tlundafaik, its has been loaded the whole time?
22:12.56nee|lapHas anyone else here had problems of seeing through the map, even in instances?
22:12.57tlundhow can i check?
22:13.04nee|lapIt never happened to me before TBC
22:13.09nee|lapFPS goes waaaydown#
22:13.48tlundckknight: i have herbalism under the "professions"-menu, and i have a herbalism directly in the root.
22:14.17ckknightit's probably not _actually_ loaded
22:14.19ckknightwait
22:14.19ckknightum
22:14.20ckknighthrm
22:14.21ckknightI dunno
22:14.32ckknightI blame gnomes
22:14.54tlundthat bug you mentioned, when was it fixed?
22:14.56tlundtoday or yesterday?
22:15.09tlundi installed carto yesterday for the first time, straight from the SVN snapshot
22:15.23kergothtlund, /script Cartographer:EnableDevelopment("Herbalism") should at least let you remove those notes
22:15.28kergother, you can remove them without that even
22:15.29kergothnm :)
22:16.23tlundyeah, remove works
22:16.29tlundbut i want them, just hidden
22:16.31kenlyric|homedidn't they make a change in 1.12 where you could put food on your action bars to make pet feeding easier?
22:16.42tlundwhen i play my other char, who has herbalism, i want them displayed :)
22:16.43kenlyric|homeI guess that's a long way around of asking about pet feeding addons for my hunter.
22:17.14tlundis there a way to import notes from MetaMap/MapNotes?
22:19.26Antiarcckknight: How does the guild positions?
22:20.21ckknightwrong verb.
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22:25.54tlundckknight: all savedvariables deleted, doublechecked that all modules are enabled. loggin in now, gonna find someone to send me a herb-note.
22:29.06Andunehow do I drag the yata bar elsewhere?  I've tried unlocking it an every combo of shift/alt/ctrl left/right clicking..
22:29.42Kemayockknight: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\GuildPositions.lua:277: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "Cartographer_MapClosed". "Guild Positions" is not registered with it.
22:29.51Anduneah of course just as I ask, I finally get it.  had to click on a very thin invisible line on the left edge of the buttons..
22:30.24SarozLOL
22:30.27Sarozdecursive in trunk?
22:31.22art3misdhrm kc_mobility seems a tad limited
22:33.09art3misalthough looking a the lua itself, nice job
22:33.25ckknightKemayo: fixed
22:33.35ckknightcommitting now
22:33.56Feldiackknight: any idea when cartographer is going to have maps for all the tbc instances?
22:34.11ckknightno
22:34.41Feldiadoh
22:35.49pogotribalkenlyric: What's the /command to configure elkbuffbars?
22:35.57Feldia/ebb
22:35.58Feldia?
22:37.40pogotribalyeah that's it
22:37.56pogotribalNot sure if I like this though, I want my debuffs to me in a more easily seen position than my buffs
22:38.04pogotribalI guess I'll stick to Buffalo if I can't separate them
22:38.30Andunewhat totem bar to pple use?   I can't imagine it's Yata, it's spewing errors left and right..
22:39.34pogotribalI think I'm gonna scrap my current layout and order everything along the bottom of the screen as people seem to be doing.
22:40.53art3misso whats another good bag mod like all in one
22:40.59art3misbaggins is really annoying
22:41.02Andunebaggins.
22:41.11art3misjust spent the last little bit mucking iwth it
22:41.24Andunebaggins can be configured like all-in-one
22:41.38art3mistakes too much space, requires too many clicks to make it not display things, for some reason it refuses to hold a custom bag layout
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22:41.54Andunei used Tbag previously, which I loved, but it was always breaking and not patched quick enough
22:42.07art3misiw as using allinone
22:42.18art3misthen tried the wowace onebag-series
22:42.31art3misbut i kept losing things in the onebag ;P
22:42.42Anduneonebag wasn't too bad when I tried it.
22:42.50art3misi wish the wowace stuff was sorted by type of addon instead of alphabetically
22:43.06Anduneout of all the inv mods I've tried, TBag had the best out-of-the-box functionality.
22:43.20art3misyeah its decent enough but for some reason the second something goes into onebag i cant seem to find it ;)
22:43.31Andunebut it had a heavy footprint too, so if you're one of those pple worried about mod memory size, it's not for you.
22:43.45art3mishow heavy and does it include bank?
22:43.57art3misthat was one of the things i didnt like about onebank
22:44.03Anduneyes it includes bank.  how heavy i don't remember, but it certainly wasn't lightweight.
22:44.12art3misit had a nasty habit of reverting the last looked bank check
22:44.22art3misso i'd spaz out about missing items
22:44.25art3mis;)
22:44.25Andunebut you probably shouldn't listen to me anyway, I use Baggins now and I like it  :)
22:44.41art3misbaggins would be alright after mucking with it for a while
22:44.47Anduneit took a bit more configuration (ie. not totally out of the box) but it works mostly like Tbag now.
22:44.54art3misthe sorting is okay but i sorta dislike how the frames sem all attached
22:44.59art3misseem
22:45.10Anduneso use the all-in-one bag configuration.
22:45.15art3mislike they wouldnt function indenpendant
22:45.24Andunethen it's all in one window, and you can organize that window how you like.
22:45.26art3miswell thas just it, i wanted the quest items bag
22:45.35art3misout constantly
22:45.40art3miswithout a header ;P
22:45.55Anduneah, you sound a bit more demanding of your bag mods than I am  ;)
22:46.01art3misheh its my ui layout
22:46.07Andunei prefer a clean UI, i don't like extra things on it
22:46.12art3misi actually wanted just a happy little stand alone quest item bar
22:46.18art3misthat would do what it does in baggins
22:46.24art3misso sit on my screen
22:46.39art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg
22:46.47art3misthats my interface ;P
22:46.56art3misit's been slightly redone as i find new mods ;P
22:46.58pogotribalArtemis that's sorta what I wanna do now.
22:47.06pogotribalPut everything on the bottom.
22:47.19Anduneah.  well kudos for the stuff at the bottom, that's how I like mine.  But those unit frames would drive me nuts.
22:47.20art3misi can give ya my mods and layouts if'n ya want
22:47.24pogotribalExcept replace where you have the raid windows with target and tot
22:47.31Anduneer raid frames rather.  sRaidFrames?
22:47.32art3misoh those are just estetics ;P
22:47.37art3misag_uf
22:47.45art3misoh wait no sraid is in taht shot
22:47.57art3misi dont use that anymore since i found healer_alpha fade
22:47.57Anduneyeah I use grid
22:48.06art3misi didnt like grid
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22:48.25art3misits super powerful n stuff and can do most things that a healer would want, but i didnt like the look
22:49.00Anduneah I love it.  don't make me move the mouse all around 40 people playing whack-a-mole.  i can keep my mouse mostly in one spot and heal the entire raid.
22:49.14art3misyeah
22:49.18art3misi used to use rdx
22:49.24art3miswhack a mole is fun!
22:49.25Anduneit's still whack-a-mole, but at least it's more bearable version of it  :P
22:49.32art3misbut raid isnt a big deal anymore with tbc being out
22:49.36art3misso it's on the back burner
22:49.59Saroz!!!
22:50.02art3misi may get rid of model citizen
22:50.09art3misbut for some reason i like it ;P
22:50.14AnduneI actually use Grid to heal parties too.  I like using the same interface.
22:50.29art3misyeah my party frames end up where the group 1 is in that shot
22:50.35art3misand i've got clique
22:51.21Terra99Hi, is there some sort of GUI that can manage all addons provided by ace2?
22:51.30art3misduececommander
22:51.34Terra99in game gui
22:51.35art3misits sorta gui'd
22:51.48Industrialhow does ace2 provide addons?
22:52.01art3misbut as a big window click config type thing, no there isn't
22:52.07art3misace2 is a library
22:52.13art3misnothing more nothing less ;P
22:52.14AzurewrathIndustrial: don't destroy peoples illusions ;D
22:52.32Industrialbut the little angel on my shoulder says i have to :(
22:52.40Anduneterra99: most Ace addons support FuBar, and people use FuBar to manage their addons.  DeuceCommander is a nice all-in-one FuBar if you want to go minimalist.
22:52.48art3misdoes it have big boobs and look like a hentai angel?
22:52.54Industrialand the little dvil on the other shoulder says so too >:)
22:53.06art3misis it a hentai devil?
22:53.17Industriallet me check
22:53.17Terra99I know that it is a library :P
22:53.18Industrialyes
22:53.20art3misor are both really just Sylvia Saint in sexy costumes ;P
22:53.46art3misso yeah anyways
22:54.09art3misback to my question regarding sorting
22:54.32art3miswithout having to read lots and scroll/click through lots of links what are all the bag mods for ace?
22:55.18Industrialbrowser-search-functionality.
22:55.42AmadeoI wish I had a bag mod that did nothing but show a single view pane with a presorted item list...by name or something, without using savedvariables for multiple characters or anything
22:55.55Andunearkinventory, baggins, onebag are the ones I'm aware of.
22:56.19art3misIndustrial: actually let me rephrase: "i want a list of wowace bag mods, someone go do my work for me and type out a list i can read"
22:56.31art3mis;)
22:56.35art3misthanks adune
22:56.42Industrial:@
22:56.55Andunesanity2 I guess, tho that's a special case
22:57.23art3mishow special?
22:57.42art3misand would it be too much to ask for a readme in the svn to tell the commands? ;)
22:58.31Terra99another questions, has anyone of you tried the cartographer_import addon that should import data from the gatherer addon?
22:58.32Anduneit's sort of like possessions.  more for location an item on any of your toons.
22:58.33Industrialask the author not the channel
22:58.50Andunes/location/locating/
22:59.04Anduneuh, thanks purl  :)
22:59.05Industrialread the wiki
22:59.06Industrialpost on the forums
22:59.09Industrialetcetera
22:59.27Terra99and I decided to ask in the channel
22:59.31Terra99;)
22:59.37Industrial@ art3mis
22:59.42Anduneterra99:  never had it work for me.
23:00.00Anduneterra99: had the suspicion it required gatherer to be running to have access to it's data, but never tested.
23:00.07Industrialart3mis: you are doing a pretty good job at making people angry.
23:01.09Terra99yeah, and the problem is that there is no stable TBC gatherer release.
23:02.01kergothi just made a minimal Gatherer.toc
23:02.05kergothwith SavedVariables:
23:02.10kergothso the gatherer SV got loaded
23:02.13kergothdont need the addon itself..
23:02.27kergothmeh, headache
23:02.52Anduneand "stable" is not a requirement for import.  If it has to be running as kergoth suggests, you just need it to load.
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23:05.12Terra99well, I've never developed an addon. Does your Gatherer.toc contain anything special or is it just an empty file?
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23:06.34Anduneterra99: just download the latest unstable/beta gatherer.  As long as it loads, the data is in memory and the import can get to it.  Then you can delete it and forget about it.
23:07.32Terra99k, thx
23:07.50AntiarcSanity2 is an inventory listview
23:07.59AntiarcIt's not a bag replacement, but it helps you find things.
23:08.17nee|lapHas anyone else here had problems of seeing through the map, even in instances?
23:08.29nee|lapIt really kills FPS
23:08.58nee|lapAnd the only way I can 'fix' it outside of instances is to set viewing distance to 50-ish % or to restart WoW, but that's not a permanent fix
23:10.11PogoTribalI need like...
23:10.15PogoTribalAn in-game notepad.
23:10.37[dRaCo]there is one...
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23:11.06Leaf_ArchimondeAs i can see, where is no way to display dropdown menu with > 20 items? Or am i wrong ?
23:11.09ThraePogoTribal: I like TinyPad.
23:11.10PogoTribalA window I can open over everything else.
23:11.21PogoTribalAnything with the word Tiny has to be good.
23:11.49art3mishrm how long ago was ark updated?
23:12.02sergiowow they raped hunter's barrage talent :|
23:12.04art3misdoesnt seem to have the new profession and food stuffs as part of its generic sorts
23:12.11sergioqq
23:13.36PogoTribalThrea: Does Tinypad work fine recently?
23:13.57vhaarrThink he would recommend it if it didn't?
23:14.34vhaarrThere's also Omnibus on the SVN, but I'm not sure how well that works now with the latest FAIAP.
23:14.48kergothAndune, well, if the new gatherer tries to convert the db from old format to new, that could be problematic.  better off doing a small stub .toc like i suggested.  or better yet, just put Gatherer.lua at the bottom of Cartographer_Import.toc, and copy the gatherer saved vars into the import dir
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23:21.56PogoTribalThrae: Tinypad's perfect, thanks.
23:26.19krkasomeone said FAIAP?
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23:30.22krkaFAIAP should work the same with all editboxes... though i suppose there could be hooking-issues if some editboxes do weird things
23:31.32art3mishrm
23:31.40art3misso whats the purpose of sanity?
23:31.48art3misthe addon not the mental state
23:32.30krka1) google for "warcraft sanity addon" 2) click first result 3) read
23:32.38art3mis<-- lazy
23:32.43ckknightbtw, finally fixed agUF for druids
23:32.51art3misin the time it took you to be a smart ass you could have merely said what it did ;P
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23:33.03art3misckk aguf is yers?
23:33.15ckknightno, it's ag's
23:33.20ckknightI'm just a druid and it pissed me off
23:33.24art3misheh
23:33.28krkaart3mis: not really, i didn't read it myself
23:33.35krkai just saw that there was a description
23:33.57krkaand being lazy is a poor excuse when you're actually asking for help
23:34.05krkathat's like saying that your time is much more valuable than others
23:34.05ckknightI'm not one to sit around waiting for someone else to fix it
23:34.13art3miswell actually i had it loaded and someone mentioned it as a bag thing
23:34.29art3misso i was curious, in mucking with it but non of the ingame stuff seems to explain
23:35.50art3mishrm the cateogry for consumables seems broken in baggins
23:35.52art3missigh
23:36.06art3miswish i didnt have a headache
23:36.12Adirelleart3mis: which locales ?
23:36.20art3misfor consumables?
23:36.37art3misi click on edit cat, click consume and the window blanks
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23:36.54art3misand just sits there
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23:41.39art3misguess im gonna have to tak some time and train baggins
23:41.50art3misit lists my new dusts and shards as gathered
23:41.58art3misand it lists nexus as both a mat and a gathered
23:42.01Adirelleart3mis: I meant which language ?
23:42.05art3misEN
23:43.02art3misis there a tick button im missing for how it sorts the categories?
23:43.16art3misso i can arrange the bags how i want now how it thinks it should be?
23:43.23art3misor rather the contents of the bags?
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23:45.24Mikmaag`: lol
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23:50.31marshenven u noob
23:50.31Mikmaag`: svn ci libs/ -m "Barbrawl: fixing externals"
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23:53.55AntiarcIs it possible to use the guild channel to synch ColaLight with ColaMachine?
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23:57.27ckknightI wonder how I'd get a DruidBar thing to work with agUF...
23:57.44Mikmaanyone played a hunter after 2.0? i need a good leveling-talenttree for hunter (and shaman :)
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23:59.11sylvanaari think something is wrong with pastamancers mirror

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