| 00:00.07 | sylvanaar | ravagernl: yeah, try using 1.7b1 |
| 00:00.21 | sylvanaar | ravagernl: or changing to another mirror yourself |
| 00:00.47 | ravagernl | Already did |
| 00:01.17 | OvrLrd-Q | wow jesus christ, TBC did inflate my WoW Directory :( |
| 00:01.21 | ravagernl | hmm, how can I stop wowaceupdater from updating files? fuzzylogic is stil in svn |
| 00:01.38 | ravagernl | something like a .nopatch file? |
| 00:01.48 | Thrae | ravagernl: Just uncheck it. |
| 00:02.29 | Harshmage | Okay, I take all of those stats on size back....trimmed down, even with my 64mb of addons, it's 4.41gb w/o TBC. So if it's a completely cleaned up install, without TBC, patches, screenshots, or addons, your WoW folder should be 4.35gb. |
| 00:02.38 | ravagernl | I know that, but I was wondering if there is something to prevent it from checking it anyway |
| 00:02.52 | ravagernl | I mean so you dont have to uncheck it :P |
| 00:03.28 | sylvanaar | ravagernl: it should support .nopatch you are right, it doesnt, it uses .svn directories |
| 00:03.54 | ravagernl | ok, well thats easy |
| 00:04.07 | ravagernl | ill plug a .svn dir in fuzzylog |
| 00:04.13 | sylvanaar | ravagernl yep |
| 00:04.39 | ravagernl | maybe it should be removed from svn also |
| 00:04.57 | sylvanaar | idk |
| 00:05.09 | Industrial | when i did that with my addons people got mad |
| 00:05.10 | Industrial | :p |
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| 00:05.35 | sylvanaar | no reason to remove things from the svn |
| 00:05.36 | ravagernl | Prats :P |
| 00:06.15 | Industrial | I just wanted them off. |
| 00:06.42 | ravagernl | bah, windows doesn't let me use dots as first characters in folder/file names |
| 00:06.54 | sylvanaar | you must use the command line |
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| 00:07.20 | Industrial | ravagernl: haha i was so waiting for you to say that |
| 00:07.53 | ravagernl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh |
| 00:07.56 | ravagernl | XD |
| 00:08.32 | ravagernl | nvm, ill use a damn macro then |
| 00:08.37 | ravagernl | #show Call Pet |
| 00:08.39 | ravagernl | /cast [target=pet, dead] Revive Pet; [modifier:ctrl] Revive Pet; [nopet] Call Pet; Mend Pet |
| 00:08.53 | sylvanaar | man, my autoattack keeps toggling off |
| 00:09.02 | sylvanaar | anyone have a macro to stop it |
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| 00:09.38 | sylvanaar | like if target is hostile dont fucking stop the autoattack |
| 00:09.47 | kenlyric | god, why are all my SVs hosed now. |
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| 00:10.18 | ckknight | cause you touch yourself at night |
| 00:10.33 | Industrial | xD |
| 00:10.37 | cynyr | anyone having a problem baggins when you switch weapons? |
| 00:10.46 | sylvanaar | i just speced feral, and i find that i need to use bliz's gay macro's now |
| 00:10.55 | ravagernl | sylvanaar: |
| 00:10.56 | ravagernl | #show Attack |
| 00:10.58 | ravagernl | /startattack |
| 00:11.04 | Industrial | the own sylvanaar |
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| 00:11.12 | kenlyric | something completely hosed aguf, all my bars reset, and 25 of my other mods are throwing "unexpected symbol" errors in the SV. |
| 00:11.17 | Industrial | ive been using one button to do all my work for 10 levels now |
| 00:11.18 | sylvanaar | thanks ravagernl |
| 00:11.34 | ravagernl | ::o feral huh: /castrandom Mangle, Maul |
| 00:12.04 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.20 | sylvanaar | i need one that will do maul, enrage + demo+fff |
| 00:12.58 | sylvanaar | i dont have mangle |
| 00:13.55 | ckknight | omg, I just want to leave |
| 00:14.05 | ckknight | I hate java and all its crappiness |
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| 00:19.27 | trh | kergoth: are u there? |
| 00:20.48 | Xuerian | I still favor that multi-platform quote. |
| 00:22.59 | Tain | "XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve your problem, use more. " |
| 00:23.08 | cynyr | lol |
| 00:23.11 | Xuerian | Haha |
| 00:23.15 | trh | actually that quote is so damn true :) |
| 00:23.44 | nee|lap | Is there an Ace addon to share friends-lists? |
| 00:23.46 | ckknight | oh, the "Java is great cause it's multi-platform, just like how anal sex is great cause it works on everyone" |
| 00:24.03 | Industrial | I HATE HUNTER NPCS |
| 00:24.06 | Industrial | . |
| 00:24.12 | Xuerian | Ah, figured I'd spare you a repetition, seeing as you would've known it ;P |
| 00:24.17 | trh | Industrial: uhm.. those in zangamarsh are pretty weak |
| 00:24.32 | Industrial | trh: oh i mean those in ghostlands |
| 00:24.34 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:25.08 | trh | didn't tried them yet.. but i usually hate those caster npc's... either they heal themself or they cast a shitload of damage on you |
| 00:25.17 | Ordog | hm is there a way to contact the wowhead team? the disenchanting is pretty useless |
| 00:25.29 | Industrial | im priest and i cant take that dps |
| 00:25.35 | Ordog | since it only lists weapons where it disenchanted from its always 100% .. |
| 00:25.37 | Industrial | my shield breaks quickly with a pet/add |
| 00:25.56 | Industrial | and the kitty slows my heal = dead |
| 00:26.00 | Ordog | for how much do Greater Planar Essence sell n your servers? |
| 00:26.44 | trh | Industrial: i got a idea to fix that.. reroll :P |
| 00:27.14 | Industrial | nah |
| 00:27.34 | Industrial | all the oteh mobs are toast, you see. |
| 00:27.35 | Tain | It is true ckknight. Using Java is like getting fucked in the ass. |
| 00:27.44 | Industrial | other |
| 00:27.47 | trh | Industrial: do shadow priests still melt faces? :P |
| 00:27.50 | ckknight | and they forgot to use lube :-( |
| 00:27.50 | Industrial | yes. |
| 00:28.09 | trh | Tain: i don't wanna know how you know that.... :P |
| 00:28.36 | Tain | Well trh, some of us have to do some things that we'r enot proud of. |
| 00:28.38 | Tain | Like use Java. |
| 00:28.56 | Nayon | woot 66 |
| 00:28.57 | Xuerian | Reminds me of the VGCats facehugger panel :3 |
| 00:28.59 | ckknight | wowace is like a support group we can go to |
| 00:29.07 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:29.22 | Cyrez | Right now, the onty things it's seeding are patch torrents extracted from the craptastic Blizzard Downloader. |
| 00:29.28 | trh | Tain: yeah.. thats true, but how can you compare it to the other pain without experiencing it :P |
| 00:29.28 | Industrial | Hello everyone my name is ckknight, and im a java developer. |
| 00:29.31 | Tain | hi my name is Tain and I've been on the bean for two years. |
| 00:29.32 | Industrial | Hello ckknight. |
| 00:29.34 | Cyrez | *only |
| 00:29.58 | ckknight | lol, Tain |
| 00:30.10 | ckknight | btw, wtf is with the whole "bean" thing? |
| 00:30.29 | Zicon | For making bean stew, of course. |
| 00:30.41 | trh | actually the basic concepts of java are nice... but the framework with all its libraries and the overengineered frameworks... yikes |
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| 00:30.51 | Cyrez | Wrong button. >< |
| 00:30.53 | ckknight | I always thought it was unprofessional and stupid. |
| 00:31.11 | Tain | Well Java started as just a "neat project" some guys were working on. |
| 00:31.36 | Antiar1 | "overengineered" is exactly how I'd describe it. |
| 00:31.37 | trh | the language itself is nice.. type-safe, forced OOP and so on |
| 00:31.38 | Tain | Like PHP it just grew into more than it was ever intended to be originally. |
| 00:31.52 | Tain | I like Java, in theory. It is the implementation that drives me to drink. |
| 00:31.58 | ckknight | Tain: hehe, yea. |
| 00:32.08 | ckknight | I'm also not fond of C-style syntax. |
| 00:32.09 | Industrial | My name is Industrial and in two weeks ill be on PHP for the rest of the year. |
| 00:32.10 | trh | i actually do like C# alot.. its like java in good |
| 00:32.18 | buu | Industrial: I'm so sorry. |
| 00:32.21 | ckknight | I'm actually quite fond of C# |
| 00:32.22 | Industrial | gogo part time job :[ |
| 00:32.35 | *** part/#wowace Nayon (n=MeflakCa@pool-72-74-232-52.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:32.44 | buu | Industrial: Couldn't you find work in a mcdonalds or something? |
| 00:33.14 | trh | buu: they don't employ people that are able to form a complete setence or are able to calculate 10% of 10$ |
| 00:33.15 | Antiar1 | C# feels like "This is Java, except it's written for programmers rather than as an academic exercise" |
| 00:33.21 | Industrial | nah, this pays better |
| 00:33.22 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:33.23 | Tain | I'm pretty sure that I didn't get hired for a C# dev job because the manager interviewing me asked me what I thought of VB.NET vs C#.NET and I told him I preferred C# but that there wasn't really that much difference anymore, it was the .NET framework that was important, not the language. |
| 00:33.45 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:33.50 | ckknight | what you said was right... |
| 00:33.59 | Cyrez | But I think if WoW was written in as much ASM as possible then Ironforge would never lag anybody. |
| 00:34.00 | Tain | A bit oversimplified. |
| 00:34.00 | trh | Antiar1: so true |
| 00:34.07 | ckknight | Antiar1: that is very true. |
| 00:34.17 | ckknight | C#/.NET is really a fork from Java |
| 00:34.23 | trh | Cyrez: actually i do think the language in which it was written doesn't matter |
| 00:34.27 | ckknight | added a bunch of cool, useful stuff |
| 00:34.28 | Tain | But the difference between VB.NET and C#.NET is nowhere near comparible to the difference between C and VB was. |
| 00:34.40 | trh | Cyrez: i've seen very performant java server applications and totally crappy asm stuff |
| 00:34.50 | ckknight | and the thing is, Java can't just steal it all, cause then they lose their snootiness |
| 00:35.14 | trh | and one of the biggest mistakes in the java development were the early VM's |
| 00:35.18 | Antiarc|Home | Haha, so true |
| 00:35.19 | trh | they were so damn slow |
| 00:35.20 | ckknight | Cyrez: yea, your statement is total bullshit... |
| 00:35.31 | Cyrez | Play Pac-Man on Windows then play it on an Atari. |
| 00:35.37 | Antiarc|Home | Whoa O_O |
| 00:35.39 | Tain | Wait what? |
| 00:35.41 | Antiarc|Home | I logged into my main just now |
| 00:35.47 | Tain | I missed that line entirely. |
| 00:35.49 | Antiarc|Home | Time played: 100 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds |
| 00:35.53 | ckknight | cool |
| 00:35.57 | Tain | Ok code WoW entirely in ASM. |
| 00:36.06 | ckknight | I bet it was capped, Antiarc|Home |
| 00:36.13 | Tain | Time coded: 895 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes, 9 seconds |
| 00:36.15 | Antiarc|Home | No, it's increasing now ckknight |
| 00:36.21 | break19 | Tain: exactly. |
| 00:36.22 | trh | Antiarc: n1, i'm at 80days or sth |
| 00:36.30 | Antiarc|Home | I just did a reload and I'm at 100d/0h/11m/47s |
| 00:36.35 | ckknight | Antiarc|Home: and I bet it was capped at 100 and now it increases. |
| 00:36.45 | break19 | Tain: and try to imagine how difficult debugging would be. |
| 00:36.51 | Antiarc|Home | Eh? |
| 00:36.54 | Cyrez | I'm just saying if they at least did that with some of the higher level math and stuff. |
| 00:37.15 | trh | Cyrez: trust us, the language doesn't matter |
| 00:37.16 | ckknight | you do realize that asm is non-portable. |
| 00:37.19 | Tain | Coding in ASM doesn't buy you much over languages like it used to. |
| 00:37.32 | trh | Cyrez: today's compilers are so powerful that it nearly does not matter if you write in C++ or ASM |
| 00:37.32 | ckknight | right, Tain |
| 00:37.46 | Cyrez | Ah. |
| 00:37.51 | trh | Cyrez: the main problem is still to code the algorithm so good, that the processor can execute it fast |
| 00:38.01 | Tain | Even if there were a performance difference the time to develop would increase exponentially. |
| 00:38.09 | trh | Cyrez: meaning: watch array sizes, watch that the code/data caches get used best and so on |
| 00:38.20 | Cyrez | In any case, their dual core handling blows goats. |
| 00:38.20 | trh | Cyrez: the language in which you're doing it doesn't matter |
| 00:38.41 | Cyrez | They need to fix that. |
| 00:38.51 | break19 | Cyrez: ASM is great for small, simple things.. but as the size of the project grows.. the code grows by x^y... |
| 00:39.13 | Cyrez | Could you please stop the pinging? I understand already. |
| 00:39.28 | Cyrez | I'm on another subject entirely. |
| 00:39.47 | Tain | Reminds me of when I was in a .NET dev class and I asked if you could code directly in MSIL if you wanted to. |
| 00:39.59 | trh | Tain: i guess that was fun :) |
| 00:40.14 | Cyrez | WoW was actually smoother when I shut one core off. |
| 00:40.20 | trh | Tain: the answer prolly was "why is ms ill?" |
| 00:40.29 | Cyrez | That's sad. |
| 00:40.43 | Tain | The instructer wasn't happy. He was like, "Why would you want to do that?" |
| 00:40.46 | Cyrez | No ther game I've played had that sort of problem. |
| 00:41.00 | Tain | I've had plenty of games with issues with dual core. |
| 00:41.03 | trh | Cyrez: i'm not sure, but isn't there a option in windows to force a program to run only on one cpu? |
| 00:41.05 | Xuerian | Cyrez: Are you bored? Because you seem like you're bored. |
| 00:41.10 | ckknight | I've coded MSIL |
| 00:41.19 | Tain | Have to set affinity to one core on some games. |
| 00:41.39 | shieldb | trh: you can do that but it requires modifying the executable or set it via task manager every time you run it |
| 00:41.57 | Cyrez | You just go into the Task Manager and right-click on the process then there's an option to set the affanity or whatever it's called. |
| 00:41.57 | shieldb | you can modify wow so that it always runs on one core, but then you can't login anymore because your client is modified :P |
| 00:42.03 | trh | shieldb: if you can set it via taskmanager you can set it also automatically with a program |
| 00:42.12 | shieldb | yeah true enough |
| 00:42.37 | Cyrez | Windows treats multi-core processors just like it would server boards with multiple CPU's. |
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| 00:43.07 | art3mis | hrm i have a question |
| 00:43.24 | art3mis | if ive designed my ui for 1680wide and use eepanels |
| 00:43.41 | art3mis | if i copy my interface to a machine that can only do 1280, it's not gonna scale properly is it |
| 00:44.00 | art3mis | since the panels would be using absolute screen loc values |
| 00:44.47 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:44.47 | shieldb | art3mis, I don't know that there's a 'good' way to copy interfaces between resolutions like you're talking about |
| 00:44.52 | Industrial | yes, no. |
| 00:44.59 | Cyrez | It might not be like, "Hey, the screen resolution is different. I should reset the positions to default." |
| 00:45.12 | art3mis | oh yeah |
| 00:45.17 | art3mis | generally i copy my wtf over too |
| 00:45.40 | art3mis | but im guessing its not gonna just scale to the new res |
| 00:45.50 | shieldb | yeah everything may be moved off the right and bottom of the screen |
| 00:45.51 | art3mis | since very few wowace addons actually seem to be able to do that |
| 00:46.13 | shieldb | there's just not a super good way to do it if you're manually positioning everything |
| 00:46.18 | art3mis | nods |
| 00:46.25 | shieldb | if it was to auto adjust interface scale, everything may be too small or large on different resolutions |
| 00:46.26 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg |
| 00:46.33 | art3mis | thats my 1680 layout |
| 00:46.39 | Cyrez | I thought of that problem when I considered the difference between 1280x800 (Roommate's laptop's native resolution) and this box's 1152x864. |
| 00:46.44 | Barbanus | noob question: is there a good Ace library to handle frames/windows? |
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| 00:47.38 | shieldb | if it runs absolute values you have stuff falling off the left/right or only using a rectangle in the upper left |
| 00:47.38 | art3mis | i can feasibly merge the right side winder into the chat panel since its just raid/party/guild |
| 00:47.38 | art3mis | Barbanus: in what way? |
| 00:47.38 | shieldb | if it's referencing coordinates based on the nearest edge (i.e. this frame is 15 pixels off the right edge) then you have everything smashing together in the middle if you scale down |
| 00:48.20 | Antiarc|Home | ckknight: Question re: Ace profiles |
| 00:48.29 | Antiarc|Home | My home realm, Cenarion Circle, is under threat of a realm split |
| 00:48.36 | Antiarc|Home | When that happens, CC dies and two new servers are created |
| 00:48.42 | ckknight | k |
| 00:48.43 | Barbanus | art3mis, well I've never actually built any UI stuff yet, but I want to add a window to my UI that I am planning on having some checkboxes on it, etc |
| 00:48.51 | Antiarc|Home | Do you have a plan for migrating realm profiles to new realms in the event that happens? |
| 00:48.59 | Antiarc|Home | Since "Adrine - Cenarion Circle" will no longer exist. |
| 00:49.00 | Barbanus | art3mis, and I want to know what is the best way to approach just basic frame/window creation |
| 00:49.02 | art3mis | oh that |
| 00:49.05 | art3mis | umm |
| 00:49.08 | ckknight | no plans. |
| 00:49.13 | art3mis | there's a couple of ui creation factories |
| 00:49.17 | shieldb | Antiarc|Home, couldn't you just use "copy profile from -> Adrine - Cenarion Circle" ? |
| 00:49.24 | ckknight | oh yea, that'd work. |
| 00:49.25 | art3mis | but i would say check the wiki page |
| 00:49.28 | Antiarc|Home | does that work cross-realms? |
| 00:49.32 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:49.36 | Antiarc|Home | Excellent. Thanks. |
| 00:49.36 | shieldb | the interface shouldn't automatically wipe realms that don't exist anymore |
| 00:49.45 | shieldb | or characters that don't exist anymore |
| 00:49.50 | shieldb | it'll have all the data left over |
| 00:49.51 | ckknight | well, it's an ace thing |
| 00:49.53 | ckknight | and I know it doesn't |
| 00:50.49 | Barbanus | I've copied data from different accounts just by copying the SVs from one account to the other, and copying them with ace to a new profile |
| 00:51.19 | Industrial | ding 18 |
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| 00:52.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | holy shit the new server is fast |
| 00:52.25 | Barbanus | holy crap, 4 level 68s on my realm now |
| 00:52.40 | trh | we got one 69er |
| 00:52.51 | Barbanus | trh, yea we do too |
| 00:53.01 | trh | one guy in france was already 70 a few days ago |
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| 00:53.09 | Barbanus | Yea, he doesnt count :P |
| 00:53.17 | Barbanus | He had his whole guild power level him |
| 00:53.23 | shieldb | when you have an entire guild helping you AOE grind.. :P |
| 00:53.28 | trh | yeah.. lucky guy |
| 00:53.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | wow. the new server is fast |
| 00:53.30 | shieldb | http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3441 |
| 00:53.50 | Barbanus | We have 4 67s, 4 68s, and a 69. All of the 67s and 68s are in the same guild. |
| 00:53.56 | Barbanus | Online right now that is |
| 00:54.05 | Barbanus | US realm |
| 00:54.12 | shieldb | well, repeatedly grinding hellfire ramparts is really fast xp |
| 00:54.31 | shieldb | it's around 55k a run and you can knock the runs down to under 30 minutes with most groups |
| 00:54.39 | Barbanus | These guys are all in Netherstorm |
| 00:54.56 | shieldb | yeah grinding ramparts repeatedly would probably drop off a lot in XP past 64 |
| 00:55.16 | Barbanus | looks like they are just grouping with a warrior, mage, paladin, priest, warlock |
| 00:55.18 | Barbanus | nice group |
| 00:55.54 | Cyrez | ckk, any chance you might wanna take over the FuBar plugin I ported and make it available on the trunk? <3 |
| 00:55.58 | ckknight | yea, quite nice group |
| 00:56.15 | ckknight | Cyrez: I don't like taking over plugins |
| 00:56.19 | ckknight | I want people to take over my plugins. |
| 00:56.26 | Cyrez | Ah. |
| 00:56.30 | ckknight | I just care about making frameworks |
| 00:56.41 | ckknight | don't want to deal with little plugins |
| 00:56.44 | ckknight | too much effort |
| 00:57.05 | shieldb | ckknight, so you want to be the guy who invented legos, not the guy who sculpted the eiffel tower out of legos :P |
| 00:57.09 | Adirelle | night everyone |
| 00:57.16 | Cyrez | I don't know enough of the language to fix anything too serious, myself. |
| 00:57.21 | ckknight | shieldb: basically |
| 00:57.37 | Cyrez | I just looked at the lua of a FuBar plugin that did work. |
| 00:57.48 | Cyrez | Oh, it wants square brackets there. Okay. |
| 00:57.56 | Cyrez | And it was happy. |
| 00:58.02 | ckknight | I made FuBar, Cartographer, and a signifcant chunk of Ace2, a whole bunch of libraries (Tablet, Dewdrop, Tourist, etc). I write frameworks that other people use, not addons themselves :-P |
| 00:58.19 | Cyrez | I know, I use both of those and love them to death. |
| 00:58.38 | Cyrez | It pisses me off to no end that WoWKB doesn't talk to Cartographer. |
| 00:58.45 | Zicon | ckknight: And we wuv you for it. |
| 00:59.02 | ckknight | love is measured in nickles and dimes |
| 00:59.16 | Cyrez | If I could code plugins, I'd make a dummy version of MapNotes that forwards everything from WoWKB to Cartographer. |
| 00:59.18 | ckknight | also, this concept of "wuv" angers and infuriates us! |
| 00:59.33 | ckknight | hrm, not a bad idea |
| 00:59.57 | ckknight | I'd still prefer people to use the Cartographer API |
| 01:00.02 | ckknight | it's a lot cleaner and more efficient |
| 01:00.04 | Cyrez | I found that I liked WoWKB more than MetaMap's KB module. |
| 01:00.12 | Cyrez | A LOT more. |
| 01:00.16 | ckknight | (especially with how it uses multiple layered databases) |
| 01:01.13 | Industrial | kb? |
| 01:01.22 | Cyrez | Knowledge Base. |
| 01:01.43 | Industrial | wowwiki.com? :S |
| 01:01.45 | Cyrez | If Cart had that, well, fuck WoWKB in the ear. |
| 01:02.18 | Industrial | I dont see the use |
| 01:02.20 | Cyrez | It records every NPC and mob and makes it so you can search and even create waypoints. |
| 01:02.22 | Industrial | alt tab <3 |
| 01:02.40 | ckknight | I have an idea! |
| 01:03.04 | ckknight | for WoWKB and whatnot, there's a lot of data to load and keep in memory |
| 01:03.30 | Barbanus | oh shit |
| 01:03.30 | Industrial | lets alt tab and use the wowhead.com server resources instead |
| 01:03.30 | ckknight | why not nil data of quests way too high or too low, thus saving memory? |
| 01:03.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:03.32 | Barbanus | hold on |
| 01:03.35 | Barbanus | he has an idea! |
| 01:03.39 | Cyrez | Or at least if there was a module for Cart that recorded named mobs, at least. |
| 01:03.48 | Cyrez | Arg, grammar. >< |
| 01:03.51 | ckknight | also, each level or so could be wrapped in its own function, which would make it more efficient |
| 01:04.05 | Cyrez | I agree. |
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| 01:04.54 | Barbanus | ugh, creating windows seems like a pain in the ass |
| 01:05.02 | Cyrez | If it was broken down into smaller categories that would be unloaded from memory if you didn't want to use them. |
| 01:05.12 | ckknight | right |
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| 01:05.36 | Cyrez | Like breaking mobs down by class and elite status. |
| 01:05.42 | ckknight | so it'd be load, delete everything you don't need right now (and maybe 5-10 levels in the future), collect garbage |
| 01:06.15 | Cyrez | I can't code for beans but I'm always good for new ideas. ^^ |
| 01:06.20 | ckknight | you'd be able to get rid of a lot of cruft that way |
| 01:06.32 | Barbanus | ckknight, except at low levels, you may get 5 levels in a session |
| 01:06.51 | ckknight | I know, you'd use an algorithm depending on the level |
| 01:06.55 | Industrial | 10 levels and counting |
| 01:06.55 | Barbanus | heck you could easily get 10 |
| 01:06.56 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:06.59 | Cyrez | Make it so you can set a range. |
| 01:07.00 | ag` | mana tombs first boss :( |
| 01:07.08 | ag` | well we didn't have a tank, just a paladin :P |
| 01:07.23 | ckknight | for lvl 1, you'd store up to 10 levels in the future. If you make it to lvl 11 in that session, then it could bring up an alert telling you to reloadui |
| 01:07.29 | Barbanus | ag`, did anyone report to you the error where agUF doesnt seem to be reporting mob tap properly? |
| 01:07.39 | ckknight | but for lvl 50, you'd probably only store up to lvl 53 or so |
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| 01:07.43 | Barbanus | ag`, like if I have a mob targetted, someone else taps it, it doesnt turn grey |
| 01:07.59 | Barbanus | ag`, but if I untarget, retarget, it shows grey |
| 01:08.01 | Industrial | why need to reload the interface to add/remove levels, tbh? |
| 01:08.08 | Industrial | the need* |
| 01:08.16 | ckknight | Industrial: it nils out the unused levels for memory's sake. |
| 01:08.17 | Antiarc|Home | Anyone able to explain this? |
| 01:08.22 | Cyrez | Just have a manual level range setting and a "within X of your level" setting. |
| 01:08.23 | Industrial | meh |
| 01:08.25 | ckknight | to get em back, you'd need to reload |
| 01:08.25 | Antiarc|Home | I'm a rogue, and am getting 310, 0, 310, 0 = UnitAttackBothHands("player") |
| 01:08.34 | Antiarc|Home | I have the GM longsword MH, Swiftblade OH |
| 01:08.50 | Antiarc|Home | Ooh, hm. |
| 01:08.57 | Barbanus | that your skill? |
| 01:09.11 | Antiarc|Home | Oh! I'll bet that's it. |
| 01:09.12 | Barbanus | I have no idea what the 0s are though |
| 01:09.20 | Antiarc|Home | I'm trying to get the damage range |
| 01:09.50 | Industrial | but the levels would be variable right? id get 17-22 if i would be 19 |
| 01:09.58 | Industrial | or something :P |
| 01:10.07 | ckknight | yea. |
| 01:10.13 | Industrial | \o/ go fer it :D |
| 01:10.19 | ckknight | and when you reach lvl 23 or so, it'd bring up a box |
| 01:10.26 | Industrial | right |
| 01:10.29 | ckknight | though it's unlikely you'll do that, cause then you'd have no life. |
| 01:10.44 | Miles | is it just me, or is ark inventory really, really slow when you put stuff in the bank (with 148 slots) |
| 01:10.50 | Barbanus | Antiarc|Home, lowDmg, hiDmg, offlowDmg, offhiDmg, posBuff, negBuff, percentmod = UnitDamage("unit"); |
| 01:11.12 | Barbanus | I think thats what you are looking for :) |
| 01:11.20 | Feldia | so my guild has its first 70 |
| 01:11.20 | Industrial | ckknight: yeah totally |
| 01:11.24 | Feldia | insanity |
| 01:11.24 | Industrial | Feldia: gz |
| 01:11.26 | Cyrez | If you set it to go by your level, it would have a number you could put in and you'll get plus or minus that. So, if you're level 23 and you put in 5 you'll see level 18-28 mobs. |
| 01:11.45 | Feldia | the next highest level on my server is like 67 |
| 01:11.47 | Feldia | and this guy is 70 |
| 01:11.54 | ckknight | Cyrez: you won't put in a number, it'll decide for you. |
| 01:12.02 | ckknight | and it'd be biased toward higher levels, not lower ones |
| 01:12.02 | Barbanus | Feldia, what server? |
| 01:12.06 | Feldia | burning blade |
| 01:12.07 | Feldia | us |
| 01:12.14 | ckknight | so at lvl 23, you'll get 21-26 probably |
| 01:12.25 | Antiarc|Home | Barbanus: Thank you! |
| 01:12.31 | Cyrez | I think I'd want a manual and auto setting, personally. |
| 01:12.32 | Barbanus | Antiarc|Home, no problem :) |
| 01:12.45 | Industrial | ckknight: yeah thate better |
| 01:12.59 | ckknight | Cyrez: well you don't get one. |
| 01:13.02 | ckknight | you were bad. |
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| 01:13.09 | Cyrez | </3 |
| 01:13.28 | Barbanus | Cyrez can hack the code later :P |
| 01:13.52 | ckknight | yea, there's always that |
| 01:14.36 | Industrial | sooooo we cant share data right? |
| 01:14.43 | Cyrez | I just figure there's some instances where there might be something in the same area as a mob you want to kill that's a bit stronger. |
| 01:14.56 | Cyrez | I'd want to know about it if it could run me over. >< |
| 01:15.03 | Barbanus | I'm looking for the easiest way to create frames/windows ... any suggestions? ... making an xml file seems like a royal pain in the ass.... |
| 01:15.06 | Industrial | it'd be nice to have like lines on the map, go here go here go here :P |
| 01:15.28 | Cyrez | Or at least have it show named mobs with their followers all the time. |
| 01:15.38 | Cyrez | Some wander around. |
| 01:15.42 | Industrial | what if you complete the quest? |
| 01:15.58 | fatbrain | Isn't there a layout-designer app for .net somewhere!? |
| 01:16.10 | Barbanus | fatbrain, I dunno, is there? |
| 01:16.27 | fatbrain | Barbanus: yea, think there is, google for wow addon designer or smthn like that |
| 01:16.29 | Industrial | it uses xml |
| 01:16.29 | fatbrain | something* |
| 01:16.30 | ckknight | Barbanus: I use CreateFrame |
| 01:17.12 | Thrae | Barbanus: Take a look at Tablet and see if it can do what you want to do. API docs are on www.wowace.com. |
| 01:17.24 | Barbanus | Thrae, awesome, will do |
| 01:18.16 | ckknight | Barbanus: Tablet's a display mechanism |
| 01:18.26 | ckknight | Barbanus: for configuration, Dewdrop is recommended |
| 01:18.36 | Cyrez | It would also be cool if in Cartographer something could tint the map shades of colors based on the relative level range. |
| 01:18.42 | buu | w/sb end |
| 01:19.49 | ckknight | Cyrez: too complicated, and the map doesn't work like that |
| 01:19.59 | Cyrez | Ah. |
| 01:20.01 | Cyrez | Damn. >< |
| 01:20.11 | Cyrez | But it would look neat, wouldn't it? |
| 01:21.43 | ckknight | meh |
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| 01:25.48 | Antiarc|Home | It'd be fairly easy to tint the whole map, really. |
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| 01:25.56 | Antiarc|Home | Though not zones. |
| 01:40.30 | TheKarn | if i had a variable that could be a number or a boolean, how would i make it 1 if it was a boolean? |
| 01:41.26 | Thrae | TheKarn: Lua's objects can be assigned any type. You can just do foo = 1; foo = true; for the same object. |
| 01:41.49 | Tain | foo = what is the meaning of life? |
| 01:42.00 | Barbanus | blah, any way to make buggrabber shut up about the disabling of error throttling? |
| 01:42.04 | TheKarn | yeah but in a calculation, say i have number = (variable or number) - 1 |
| 01:42.28 | Thrae | Silly Tain. You need to encapsulate that in quotes! |
| 01:42.52 | Xuerian | Seeing as 1 and 0 equate to true and false in loose comparisons, why bother with the boolean type constraints? o.0 |
| 01:43.31 | TheKarn | i dont know |
| 01:43.39 | ckknight | Tain: foo = 42 |
| 01:43.57 | ckknight | Xuerian: 0 is true, not false. |
| 01:44.09 | Xuerian | Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. |
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| 01:44.13 | Diabolic-Destiny | HEYY |
| 01:44.16 | Xuerian | Ain't the first time I was wrong XD |
| 01:44.24 | ckknight | hey. |
| 01:44.30 | Diabolic-Destiny | 1 quick question bout cartographer, can notes be hidden? |
| 01:44.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | for example Trainer/Quests |
| 01:44.43 | Diabolic-Destiny | can i hide them.. |
| 01:45.02 | Diabolic-Destiny | or is there gonna b a searchable method to display the ones needed? |
| 01:45.19 | break19 | Diabolic-Destiny: you can hide them from the minimap |
| 01:46.22 | NeoTron | is theer a map notes import tool to cartographer? |
| 01:46.31 | NeoTron | would be nice to get rid of having two notes addons |
| 01:46.41 | Xuerian | ckknight: php is polluting my mind again :( |
| 01:46.52 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:47.04 | ckknight | I can feel the machines begin to leak and belch around me |
| 01:47.11 | ckknight | she is like a small, delicious slug |
| 01:47.17 | ckknight | I have only to close my hand to possess her... |
| 01:47.44 | NeoTron | I must say I don't know of any other language where 0 is true |
| 01:47.46 | TheKarn | ck, you lost it again? |
| 01:47.48 | Xuerian | I hope that's poetry of some nondescript sort, because it makes less than no sense otherwise >.> |
| 01:47.59 | NeoTron | well probably not true |
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| 01:48.11 | NeoTron | but most commonly 0 does equal false |
| 01:48.29 | TheKarn | it makes negative sense? |
| 01:48.30 | NeoTron | hmm. java is one case |
| 01:48.40 | Xuerian | Indeed, TheKarn |
| 01:48.59 | Xuerian | Negative sense. It made less sense to me the more I thought about it, thus indicating a negative modifier. |
| 01:49.04 | ckknight | TheKarn: it's a quote from Mr. Gone from The Maxx |
| 01:49.26 | TheKarn | ckknight, i'll take that as a yes then... :P |
| 01:50.11 | Tain | haha The Maxx! I forgot about The Maxx! |
| 01:50.48 | break19 | well, there *is* one good thing that comes from having a bit of a pot belly.. makes a damn good wrist wrist, when you're on your back, with you knees bent and your laptop is resting on it.. heh |
| 01:51.07 | Barbanus | NeoTron, what? 0 = true? since when.... |
| 01:51.17 | Xuerian | s/laptop/something more sensual/ |
| 01:51.31 | NeoTron | Lua 5.0.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2004 Tecgraf, PUC-Rio |
| 01:51.31 | NeoTron | > if(0) then print("hello"); end |
| 01:51.31 | NeoTron | hello |
| 01:51.44 | ckknight | not not 0 == true |
| 01:51.47 | break19 | Xuerian: heh |
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| 01:53.14 | NeoTron | in lua: all logical operators consider both false and nil as false and anything else as true. |
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| 01:53.55 | Xuerian | Which does make things easier, really. Except in the most recently considered case >.> |
| 01:54.08 | NeoTron | it does make sense of sorts |
| 01:54.15 | NeoTron | but can be confusing if you're not aware of it |
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| 01:55.29 | Barbanus | Yea, its not that 0 = true, its that 0 != false |
| 01:56.42 | ckknight | right |
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| 01:56.45 | fatbrain | hrm, why would you use both numbers and numeric values to indicate a boolean value? |
| 01:56.48 | NeoTron | technically speaking yes |
| 01:56.53 | fatbrain | "erm, boolean and numeric values" |
| 01:56.56 | fatbrain | <- l2type |
| 01:57.00 | NeoTron | but that'sj ust a different way of saying the same thing :) |
| 01:57.09 | ckknight | fatbrain: only booleans represent booleans. everything else can be cast onto booleans. |
| 01:57.33 | fatbrain | ckknight: stop twisting |
| 01:57.40 | fatbrain | I take it you got what I meant |
| 01:57.45 | ckknight | I twisted your mom last night |
| 01:57.49 | ckknight | if you know what I maen |
| 01:57.52 | ckknight | mean* |
| 01:58.07 | fatbrain | if you want to represent a boolean value, you should/could use the booelan lexical equivalent "true/false" |
| 01:58.15 | fatbrain | chkknight: ewww, she's been dead for 7years |
| 01:58.44 | Xuerian | necrophiliac o.o |
| 01:58.52 | Xuerian | purl, flee |
| 01:59.02 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 01:59.25 | shy1 | what do I have to do to load the latest svn version of fubar, it's complaining about revision errors |
| 01:59.37 | Tekkub | all values different from false and nil evaluate as true, whats the issue? |
| 02:00.15 | ckknight | you should never do while 1 do ... end, but while true do ... end |
| 02:00.16 | ckknight | basically |
| 02:00.22 | Tain | True is false, nil is true, cats and dogs get along, it will be anarchy! |
| 02:01.16 | Tekkub | when using explicit stuff, yes "true" is more readable |
| 02:01.30 | Tekkub | but it's as pointless as debating semicolons |
| 02:01.34 | Amadeo | Does anyone know what server Tuller plays on? |
| 02:01.48 | Tekkub | Tullerland |
| 02:02.01 | Barbanus | Ummm isnt it just that 1 != true, 1 != false, 0 != true, 0 != false. But anything besides nil and false equate as true in logical operations? |
| 02:02.42 | fatbrain | "evalutes" would be more appropraate |
| 02:02.44 | Tekkub | uh, in lua it works that way |
| 02:02.48 | fatbrain | erm, appropriate* |
| 02:02.59 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> all values different from false and nil evaluate as true, whats the issue? |
| 02:03.00 | Amadeo | bah, bbiab |
| 02:03.01 | Tain | Down with semicolons! |
| 02:03.01 | fatbrain | erm, I still need to l2type |
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| 02:03.20 | Barbanus | If you wanted, you could do if ("THIS IS TRUE OMG") then print("OMG IT WAS TRUE!"); end |
| 02:03.54 | Tekkub | yes, you could |
| 02:03.57 | Cyrez | shy1: Wait a minute or two then try again. I have had the same problem. |
| 02:04.03 | Tekkub | what's the point of this ranting? |
| 02:04.40 | fatbrain | I dont think there was a point |
| 02:04.47 | Barbanus | Tekkub, oh, they said 0 = true, which I said wasnt really the case ... its just not false :P (maybe I just have a different way of looking at it :P) |
| 02:04.48 | Tain | The point is... BANANA! |
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| 02:05.13 | Tekkub | 0 doesn't = anything except 0 |
| 02:05.21 | Tekkub | 0 ~= true, 0~= false |
| 02:05.24 | Barbanus | exactly :) |
| 02:05.42 | Tekkub | in lua, a locical test agaist 0 will evaluate as true |
| 02:05.42 | fatbrain | didn't we cover that ... like four hours ago? |
| 02:05.49 | NeoTron | Barbanus: logically speaking 0 is true. !false = true |
| 02:05.51 | Tekkub | you're just not using the right words :P |
| 02:06.11 | fatbrain | in a logical operation everything but nil will be evaulated as true (besides the *real* boolean values "true" / "false") |
| 02:06.12 | Tekkub | "0 is true" ~= "0 == true" |
| 02:06.31 | TheKarn | == means "equates to" |
| 02:06.33 | NeoTron | at least we don't have: true, false and maybe |
| 02:06.52 | TheKarn | maybe would be great for logical programing |
| 02:07.01 | Tekkub | == == "equal to" |
| 02:07.03 | TheKarn | would make things more interesting |
| 02:07.13 | Tekkub | 0 == true wil evaluate as false |
| 02:07.24 | TheKarn | "equal to" is synonymous of "the same as" |
| 02:07.25 | NeoTron | true, false, both for quantum computing |
| 02:07.33 | Tain | Your mom will evaluate as false. |
| 02:07.42 | TheKarn | "equates to" doesnt mean "equal to" but means "equivalent of" |
| 02:07.52 | Tekkub | "equl to" mean exactly the same, they are not |
| 02:08.07 | NeoTron | in the end I think we all know what is meant |
| 02:08.08 | Tekkub | they behave the same in logical tests, but they are not equal |
| 02:08.25 | Antiarc|Home | Ok, this is hot. |
| 02:08.30 | ckknight | 0 ≈ true |
| 02:08.41 | ckknight | nil ≈ false |
| 02:08.44 | Antiarc|Home | I have an addon mostly working that gives me the sustained DPS difference between two pieces of gear based on your current gear. |
| 02:08.46 | Tekkub | wait ckk... 0 == maybe? |
| 02:08.49 | Barbanus | NeoTron, haha yea. |
| 02:09.03 | ckknight | Antiarc|Home: cool. |
| 02:09.08 | Tekkub | 0 is almost equal to true... therefore 0 equals maybe? |
| 02:09.09 | ckknight | I'm gonna go home |
| 02:09.12 | ckknight | work sucks. |
| 02:09.18 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Home: for what class(es)? :) |
| 02:09.23 | Tekkub | oh... work == 0 |
| 02:09.32 | fatbrain | "Equality (==) first compares the type of its operands. If the types are different, then the result is false. Otherwise, the value of the operands are compared. Numbers and strings are compared the usual way. ..." |
| 02:09.38 | ckknight | cya around |
| 02:09.39 | fatbrain | from the reference manual |
| 02:09.43 | fatbrain | cya |
| 02:09.45 | Antiarc|Home | Just rogue at the moment, but it's built on AceModuleCore with the idea that you can add modules for other classes. |
| 02:10.05 | NeoTron | it'd be scary making it work for a caster |
| 02:10.16 | Tekkub | type(true) == "boolean", type(0) == "number" therefore 0 == true == false |
| 02:10.25 | Tekkub | (0 == true) == false :) |
| 02:10.30 | NeoTron | but true != false! |
| 02:10.31 | NeoTron | heh |
| 02:10.40 | Antiarc|Home | It's not that bad. You just have to know what the average uninterrupted damage cycle is like. |
| 02:10.42 | Tekkub | yea forgot parens |
| 02:10.49 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 02:11.00 | fatbrain | ~= |
| 02:11.12 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Home: just a lot of variation oh what you cast, what talents you have |
| 02:11.12 | NeoTron | and for warlocks for example how the stats affect the pet |
| 02:11.27 | Tekkub | ~= == (== false) ! |
| 02:11.30 | Antiarc|Home | Right, but in a PVE environment you'll have a definite cycle. |
| 02:11.41 | Barbanus | And we now have a level 70 on our server |
| 02:11.44 | Barbanus | US server |
| 02:11.58 | fatbrain | hehe |
| 02:12.00 | Tekkub | pfft, everyone's got a 70 now, you're not special |
| 02:12.13 | Barbanus | Drama beats DnT to a server first!! |
| 02:12.15 | Tekkub | be the first with a player with 2 70's on the same acct |
| 02:12.25 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Home: addon could record the kind of damage you with the spells you use... :) |
| 02:12.29 | NeoTron | liek swstats can |
| 02:12.51 | Antiarc|Home | Eh, this is theorycraft, not stat parsing. |
| 02:13.24 | NeoTron | heh |
| 02:13.26 | NeoTron | of course |
| 02:13.43 | NeoTron | but you still could deliver a customized "based on how you play" result |
| 02:13.52 | NeoTron | and no I don't want to make that addon ;-) |
| 02:14.17 | NeoTron | anyhow headind oug |
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| 02:16.35 | pogotribal | Kind of annoying thing about Fence |
| 02:16.42 | pogotribal | shift+click doesn't split items anymore |
| 02:16.53 | pogotribal | can I disable Fence's shift+click functionalty? |
| 02:17.28 | shy1 | say man .. how do you get to level 70 in 2 days |
| 02:17.29 | pogotribal | I found it |
| 02:17.30 | shy1 | -say |
| 02:17.33 | shy1 | insane, I say, insane. |
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| 02:18.11 | Dekuna | wow. the SVN server is not only back up, but stupidly fast |
| 02:18.46 | Barbanus | Dekuna, new server |
| 02:18.57 | Dekuna | hot |
| 02:19.21 | Cyrez | Yeah, I'm getting an extra 1kB/s. |
| 02:20.19 | Dekuna | does anyone here use Mendeleev? |
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| 02:24.36 | Kaelten-Laptop | anyone having any issues with the site |
| 02:24.38 | Kaelten-Laptop | ? |
| 02:24.48 | Tain | Yes I have major issues. |
| 02:24.53 | Tain | The site isn't sending me blowjobs. |
| 02:24.54 | kenlyric | I'm having issues with my mods throwing tons of errors and crashing wow, but no, the site is fine. |
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| 02:25.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 02:26.23 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | The site is now on the new server. If you have any issues, with the site, report them to Kaelten! | New WowAceUpdater beta (1.7b) |
| 02:26.34 | Kaelten | lag |
| 02:26.35 | Kaelten | :( |
| 02:26.39 | Cyrez | No problems, here. The man site and Trac come up fine. |
| 02:26.46 | Cyrez | *main |
| 02:27.23 | Diabolic-Destiny | ckknight: Is it possible to make text in Cartographer smaller, such as the name which appears on moustip |
| 02:27.24 | Thrae | Well I killed my MB. Time to upgrade to Dual-Core. |
| 02:27.26 | Diabolic-Destiny | or Instance name? |
| 02:28.37 | break19 | hmm. does anyone know if garbagefu can use the prices that colalight "digs" ? |
| 02:29.03 | break19 | Thrae: for a dead motherboard, you sure do seem to be connected pretty good..... :p |
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| 02:30.07 | Thrae | break19: Heh. I use irssi on my Linux server for IRC. I have two other computers besides my gaming machine, which is the one that just died. |
| 02:33.12 | break19 | Thrae: i miss my server :/ |
| 02:33.48 | Barbanus | so anyway to make buggrabber stop printing in chat about the "Buggrabber has stopped capturing errors blah blah"? |
| 02:34.08 | kenlyric | Barbanus, well, I had hoped to have it fixed by the errors going away, but no such luck. |
| 02:34.52 | Barbanus | kenlyric, yea, the errors I am getting are taint errors, and I cant find out what is causing them |
| 02:35.13 | Antiarc|Home | http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4146/dpscalchh1.jpg |
| 02:35.19 | break19 | had 3x160gb 7200rpm sata drives, hooked up in striped raid.. 2.8ghz p4 HT.. 3G ram. and.. a PCI trident vga card heh |
| 02:35.31 | kenlyric | how do you know its a taint error? |
| 02:36.14 | kenlyric | mine seem completely random, related to combat somehow. Some "unexpected symbol" errors in my SV, which I assume is caused by changes in the mods. |
| 02:36.37 | kergoth | unexpected symbol is generally a sign that the sv got corrupted by a game crash, afaik |
| 02:36.47 | kergoth | an addon couldnt generate those if it wanted to |
| 02:36.58 | Barbanus | I've got 23 from AddOn 'FuBar' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarRight:SetPoint()'. |
| 02:37.10 | Barbanus | and 23 from AddOn 'FuBar' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()'. |
| 02:37.15 | Funkeh` | anyone can locate me a direct link to the wau beta changelog? |
| 02:37.24 | kenlyric | Barbanus: that's what I'm getting too. |
| 02:37.39 | Barbanus | of course the addon name means nothing |
| 02:37.57 | kenlyric | well, that's good to know. |
| 02:38.38 | Barbanus | yep, get in combat, got another 7 of those errors each, and then it stopped recording |
| 02:38.48 | Barbanus | errr 8 |
| 02:41.54 | Saroz | nice Antiarc|Home |
| 02:42.13 | kenlyric | so how do you know the addon name means nothing and that's it a taint problem? |
| 02:42.29 | Barbanus | cause its a random addon name every time |
| 02:42.41 | kenlyric | oh. Mine is always fubar. |
| 02:42.51 | kenlyric | well, the first one is. |
| 02:43.08 | Barbanus | taintchecker shows nothing, "No difference" |
| 02:43.39 | Saroz | Antiarc|Home, what mod is that |
| 02:46.05 | Barbanus | kenlyric, do you use OneBag, bank, etc? |
| 02:46.07 | kenlyric | while I'm waiting on a queue, why do some mods create a SV with this line in it "OneRingDB = nil" |
| 02:46.35 | kenlyric | Barbanus: yes, I do. |
| 02:46.42 | kenlyric | Ring, Bag, and Bank |
| 02:46.43 | Barbanus | Hmmm I'll take that as a yes .... |
| 02:46.55 | Barbanus | OneView too? |
| 02:47.15 | kenlyric | no, i use sanity2 for that. |
| 02:50.44 | cynyr | i just replaced T1 shoulders with a green.... |
| 02:51.34 | kenlyric | mine all seem to be related to bartender. |
| 02:51.38 | Barbanus | heh, not surprising |
| 02:51.42 | kenlyric | here's a different one Antagonist-25400\\Antagonist.lua:558: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'size' (a nil value) |
| 02:52.40 | cynyr | if i swap gear that i have more than one of(rank 14 daggers) baggins tries to do arthimatic on a true/false(i can't spell) |
| 02:53.01 | kenlyric | CharacterInfoStorage.lua:333: attempt to concatenate local 'itemString' (a nil value). That was the first error I got before all of the multibar errors. |
| 02:53.43 | kenlyric | why do I have characterinfostorage? I don't remember. :) |
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| 02:55.16 | Barbanus | kenlyric, do you use tipbuddy? |
| 02:56.03 | kenlyric | TinyTip |
| 02:56.42 | Barbanus | Hmmm, I have no idea, I just disabled any mod that had any code that had to do with setpoint in it ... didnt help .. gosh I hate these stupid blocked errors |
| 02:57.08 | pogotribal | Still no boxes of TBC at my local walmart |
| 02:57.52 | cynyr | pogotribal: try target? |
| 02:58.13 | pogotribal | None around. |
| 02:58.18 | pogotribal | You have to understand where I live... |
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| 02:58.45 | Kadish | Does anyone get bugsack telling them that there was a spam of bug error messages when they are in combat sometimes? |
| 02:58.51 | cynyr | the walmart by me was sold out in 60 minutes... target had some at 6pm on tuesday... |
| 02:59.14 | cynyr | pogotribal: i'm in a city of 25k, the next biggest city for 4 hours in greenbay |
| 02:59.40 | Cyrez | I've been using Swatter, myself. |
| 02:59.45 | pogotribal | 2K |
| 03:00.06 | Antiarc|Home | Saroz: One I'm writing. |
| 03:01.11 | cynyr | pogotribal: ohh.. umm www.newegg.com |
| 03:02.09 | shy1 | how is MINOR_VERSION set, I'm getting: attempt to concatenate local 'MINOR_VERSION' (a nil value). |
| 03:03.23 | Saroz | Antiarc|Home, looks nice, do it for healing too |
| 03:07.32 | Antiarc|Home | It's modular so a healer can do their own healing module :P |
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| 03:10.22 | grennon | [Ammo]: you round? |
| 03:16.26 | Funkeh` | where does tortoise svn keep its login details, its asking me for them again, i don't remember them since i had them saved |
| 03:19.08 | RaydenUni | does Cartographer not have Sunken Temple? |
| 03:19.15 | Funkeh` | yes it does |
| 03:19.20 | RaydenUni | Funkeh` you won't be able to retrieve the info |
| 03:19.21 | anenigma | RaydenUni: Look under the temple of atal'hakkar |
| 03:19.27 | Funkeh` | did the URL for commiting change guys? |
| 03:20.02 | RaydenUni | after that is The Underbog |
| 03:20.06 | RaydenUni | its not listed under T or S |
| 03:20.10 | RaydenUni | i do'nt see it |
| 03:20.48 | cynyr | how is the svn server tonight? |
| 03:20.51 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 03:20.51 | Funkeh` | the temple of atal hakkar |
| 03:20.53 | RaydenUni | an update |
| 03:21.11 | RaydenUni | i thought it was called Sunken Temple |
| 03:21.25 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 03:21.25 | Funkeh` | thats a nickname afaik |
| 03:21.27 | RaydenUni | i guess not |
| 03:21.29 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 03:21.50 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 03:21.56 | RaydenUni | under quest log its listed at Sunken Temple |
| 03:22.29 | anenigma | Yeah it's weird like that |
| 03:25.38 | TheKarn | Funkeh`, make sure you're using dev.wowace.com |
| 03:25.42 | TheKarn | not svn.wowace.com |
| 03:25.47 | Funkeh` | i am |
| 03:25.53 | TheKarn | then check with kaelten |
| 03:25.58 | Funkeh` | it keeps asking me for the details |
| 03:26.07 | TheKarn | or email the group to get a new password |
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| 03:27.17 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:27.23 | Funkeh` | hey ck |
| 03:28.10 | Funkeh` | dev.wowace.com:80 requests a username and password, it spams me with |
| 03:28.37 | Funkeh` | which i type in, correctly, so maybe something happened |
| 03:28.44 | ckknight | lemme try |
| 03:29.02 | ckknight | works for me |
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| 03:29.08 | ckknight | with user/pass, that is |
| 03:29.14 | Funkeh` | great :/ |
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| 03:32.38 | cynyr | Eavesdrop attemp to call method 'setupHistory' an nil value... |
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| 03:35.23 | Funkeh` | and my email server is dieing so getting a new one won't happen soon -_- |
| 03:37.25 | Saroz | Kaelten-Laptop, not getting any mails from the forums anymore..? |
| 03:37.43 | Kaelten-Laptop | hrm I've gotten some since the move |
| 03:38.14 | Funkeh` | Kaelten an y ideas why my account would suddenly stop working? |
| 03:38.23 | Kaelten-Laptop | it doesn't like you? |
| 03:38.31 | Funkeh` | but i feed it regularly |
| 03:40.38 | cynyr | do you play with it, and love it? |
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| 03:41.08 | Funkeh` | clearly not enough, i don't see any reports on the forums of other people's ones not working |
| 03:46.11 | kergoth | sigh |
| 03:46.50 | Xuerian | purl, console kergoth |
| 03:46.59 | purl | ACTION gives kergoth the consolation moose |
| 03:47.04 | kergoth | stuck at work all day, couldnt go home to let the dog out.. so he'd pissed in his crate/cage, had to give him a bath, which he hates, so he pissed and shit both in the damn hallway, then let him out and back in and he got into the crate again before i had a chance to wash it |
| 03:47.30 | ckknight | not fun |
| 03:47.32 | Xuerian | I feel your pain. |
| 03:47.37 | kergoth | and after that, had to feed him and all whijle he's all scared cause he know he did bad, so when i go to put him back in the crate so i can come back to work (yes, back to work), he pees out of fear again |
| 03:47.42 | kergoth | puppies are a royal pain in the ass |
| 03:47.58 | Saroz | BUT HE'S SO CUTE!!! |
| 03:48.12 | kergoth | and refused to come into his crate on his own, so i had to drag him there, which makes him more scared of it, so i'll continue to have that happen in the future |
| 03:48.15 | kergoth | argh! |
| 03:49.01 | Xuerian | Routine is the biggest thing. |
| 03:49.12 | Xuerian | Then again your work kindof screws that over |
| 03:49.24 | kergoth | yeah, therein lies the problem.. my gf is out of town this week, she's normally there all dayw ith him |
| 03:49.31 | kergoth | so this was his first time alone for more than like 3 hours |
| 03:49.43 | Xuerian | Better mayhem in the crate then out, in that case |
| 03:50.32 | Kadish | ok folks, here is the set of errors i am getting |
| 03:50.36 | Kadish | usually only in combat |
| 03:50.39 | kergoth | ah well, on the plus side i got more contacts about jobs today. one from the guy i talk to aat my current contract company, and another a 5 month work from home contract |
| 03:51.07 | Kadish | Ace2 tried to call protected function MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint() |
| 03:51.23 | Kadish | also the same error in MultiBarRight:SetPoint() |
| 03:51.40 | Xuerian | Kadish: Taaaaaaaaaaint |
| 03:51.44 | Xuerian | kergoth: Nice. |
| 03:51.51 | Kadish | and ShapeshiftBarFrame:SetPoint() |
| 03:51.55 | Kadish | what about taint? |
| 03:51.58 | Xuerian | Taint! |
| 03:52.11 | Xuerian | taint. |
| 03:52.24 | Tain | Stop saying that. |
| 03:52.33 | Xuerian | Oh, it does ping you, doesn't it. |
| 03:52.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:53.58 | Xuerian | Kadish: I mean that some addon is touching a function it shouldn't, that later on, blizzard code (most likely) is using, but by that time that function has been "tai nted", and wow complains about it. |
| 03:54.59 | Kadish | i see |
| 03:55.03 | Kadish | so i should grab taintchecker |
| 03:55.05 | Kadish | to see |
| 03:55.21 | Xuerian | A rather haphazard explanation, and no, it doesn't get your problem any more solved. But that would probably be best. <Refrains from pinging a certain someone more> |
| 03:55.25 | ckknight | Kadish: it's a lot more complicated than that. |
| 03:55.34 | Kadish | well i can see who is doing it |
| 03:55.37 | Sleep|Kenlyric | abstain from using taint since it notifies tain |
| 03:55.38 | ckknight | no you can't. |
| 03:55.40 | Kadish | and either disable it, or fix it |
| 03:55.44 | Kadish | oh |
| 03:55.45 | Kadish | :/ |
| 03:55.58 | ckknight | you can test single addons, i.e. your own addons, for taint. |
| 03:56.03 | Kadish | the stack trace is useless for this sort of error then? |
| 03:56.07 | ckknight | yep. |
| 03:56.09 | ckknight | well |
| 03:56.10 | ckknight | no |
| 03:56.11 | Xuerian | Kadish: Mostly |
| 03:56.12 | ckknight | not quite |
| 03:56.21 | ckknight | it's used in fixing the bug if you know the real culprit |
| 03:56.26 | ckknight | but there's no good way to pinpoint |
| 03:56.29 | Kadish | i see |
| 03:56.33 | Kadish | well, whoever it is |
| 03:56.38 | Kadish | its in their checked in code |
| 03:56.49 | Kadish | because i've been updating from svn every night |
| 03:56.56 | Kadish | ah well |
| 03:57.03 | Xuerian | Kadish: It's also somewhat helpful in describing what gets affected by the bad code later on, and if you're creative, you can work back up the line to addons that affect that. |
| 03:58.11 | Kadish | well, time to play with addons |
| 03:58.17 | Xuerian | Most straightforward way is to disable addons one by one till the problem goes away, then re-enable other things till you pinpoint the one problem addonl |
| 03:58.18 | Kadish | thanks for setting me straight |
| 03:58.22 | Kadish | yeah |
| 03:58.39 | Kadish | i may have some suspicions depending on when the error occurs |
| 03:59.38 | Xuerian | Anyone played Rayhound or Warning Forever? :3 |
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| 04:01.49 | grennon | oh my |
| 04:02.02 | grennon | i just joined a group to kill blacktalon and the author of Postman is in it |
| 04:02.05 | grennon | how awkward |
| 04:02.06 | Xuerian | A pity =(. Short 'n sweet little arcade arcade games laced with crack. |
| 04:02.09 | kergoth | grennon: hahah |
| 04:02.42 | Xuerian | Good lord Grennon. How many angry authors are you planning to have on your tail? |
| 04:03.07 | grennon | iduno man |
| 04:03.13 | Xuerian | You missed the Cide-splosion a while back <.< |
| 04:04.18 | grennon | i got see the auctioneeplosion, which at least i didnt cause |
| 04:04.44 | kergoth | i wish this build would finish sometime this decade, i cant fix this bug until it does, and i cant go home until its fixed |
| 04:04.47 | kergoth | :| |
| 04:05.15 | Xuerian | This is the thing causing tests to take 20 minutes each? |
| 04:06.46 | kergoth | builds are hours, the other overhead is having to burn the build output to a cf card, bring it to the device, and wait about 10 minutes for the first and second boot, etc |
| 04:06.50 | kergoth | good fun |
| 04:08.12 | Kadish | The WowAceUpdater person isn't on here, is he? |
| 04:08.29 | Xuerian | Geez o.0 |
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| 04:15.53 | pogotribal | Hmm |
| 04:16.12 | pogotribal | One of these Ace2 mods is showing me group # dots on the BG battlemap |
| 04:16.15 | pogotribal | is is cartographer? |
| 04:16.33 | kergoth | yep |
| 04:17.05 | pogotribal | Nice |
| 04:18.27 | pogotribal | Everyone should be required to use it for BGs |
| 04:18.36 | pogotribal | I thought it was a Blizzard UI improvement |
| 04:18.43 | Tekkub | anyone got the CE and a scanner and wants to be my friend? |
| 04:18.44 | pogotribal | so I called everyone a noob for not seeing th epeople in combat |
| 04:18.51 | break19 | yea.. right. lol |
| 04:18.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:18.55 | Funkeh` | the combat flashing? |
| 04:19.00 | pogotribal | yeah |
| 04:19.03 | pogotribal | it's awesome |
| 04:19.04 | Funkeh` | yeah that rocks |
| 04:19.49 | pogotribal | that BG was pathetic though |
| 04:19.56 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 04:20.04 | pogotribal | I came in halfway through and rocketted to #1 on damage and killing blows |
| 04:20.19 | pogotribal | Hemo is the way to go for a level 49 rogue. |
| 04:20.21 | Tekkub | so noone got CE and has a scanner? /cry |
| 04:21.22 | fatbrain | CE? |
| 04:21.26 | fatbrain | ah, nvm |
| 04:22.46 | kergoth | damn that new server is smokin' fast |
| 04:23.09 | pogotribal | Looks like 40-49 BGs are just plain dead |
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| 04:25.12 | kergoth | anyone here work as a contractor in computing? curious on a figure (%) to convert a salary to a roughly equivalent contract hourly rate |
| 04:25.22 | kergoth | i never know what to suggest, dont contract enough |
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| 04:26.02 | Tain | I learned to suggest slightly higher than I felt was logically reasonable. |
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| 04:26.36 | Tain | I always feel like I'm asking too much, and it always ends up where they feel like I'm lowballing. |
| 04:26.59 | pogotribal | Well, you could do it yourself |
| 04:27.18 | pogotribal | 365 days * 1/3 (8 hour days) |
| 04:27.39 | pogotribal | err |
| 04:27.48 | pogotribal | hmm |
| 04:27.51 | kergoth | i'm not asking how to figure out hourly from salary, i'm asking about an equivalent contract rate |
| 04:27.57 | kergoth | ballpark % to account for benefits and crap |
| 04:28.39 | pogotribal | I'm talking out of my ass man I dunno |
| 04:30.03 | Xuerian | To contribute to the non-contributing part of this conversation, I've always had trouble placing estimates. What I think is high for something I enjoy is shockingly low >.> |
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| 04:31.42 | mjc | how goes |
| 04:31.58 | mjc | Xuerian: you're a cheapskate ;) |
| 04:31.58 | Cairenn | hey mjc, pretty well, yourself? |
| 04:32.05 | mjc | tired. :P |
| 04:32.18 | Xuerian | mjc: Always have been. Welcome back :P |
| 04:32.30 | mjc | been having more fun designing bots lately than playing |
| 04:32.32 | Cairenn | lot of that going around these days mjc ;) |
| 04:32.38 | mjc | hehe |
| 04:32.51 | Cairenn | the tired, that is, not the designing of bots |
| 04:32.54 | Xuerian | Survived the release aftermath I take it? :p |
| 04:32.55 | Cairenn | I'm shocked! |
| 04:33.02 | mjc | hehe |
| 04:33.19 | Cairenn | shocked and appalled! |
| 04:33.22 | mjc | Xuerian: not only survived, but used the downtime to finish my automatic mapping :) |
| 04:33.34 | mjc | Cairenn: 95% done with my 'easy button' system |
| 04:33.38 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:33.48 | mjc | hit the easy button, come back in 9 days, and hug your 60 |
| 04:33.52 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:34.02 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 04:34.06 | Xuerian | Nice =P |
| 04:34.23 | Cairenn | I so hope you are joking :p |
| 04:34.26 | mjc | I'm not. |
| 04:34.39 | Cairenn | bad bad dooby |
| 04:34.49 | Xuerian | Someone cover Cairenn's virgin eyes! =O |
| 04:34.51 | mjc | 70 is probably attainable |
| 04:35.04 | mjc | made it to 65 in 2 days |
| 04:35.18 | Cairenn | don't let the powers that be hear you, they'll grump at you for talking about stuff that breaks blizz's rules in channel |
| 04:35.43 | mjc | shrug, writing something like that is way more challenging than wow is :P |
| 04:37.29 | mjc | trig, calc, OOP, tons of recursion, multithreading... you name it |
| 04:37.52 | Barbanus | Kadish, did you ever figure out your combat buggrabber issue? |
| 04:39.05 | mjc | Cairenn: it's not like it'll ever be used for commercial purposes or released to the public |
| 04:39.15 | mjc | Cairenn: or, for that matter, used for personal gain |
| 04:39.25 | Cairenn | I know, just poking at ya |
| 04:39.31 | mjc | I might write a paper on what's required to design a bot in general |
| 04:39.36 | mjc | to give an idea of just how difficult it is |
| 04:39.46 | mjc | that said, 95% of the really hard stuff I found a library for |
| 04:40.16 | Cairenn | hey come on now, if I didn't tease some, you'd wonder who I was and what I'd done with the real Cairenn ;) |
| 04:40.23 | mjc | hell yeah |
| 04:40.53 | mjc | like process injection, pathfinding, WoW object manipulation basics, etc. |
| 04:41.07 | mjc | if I hadn't that resource already done I would have never bothered |
| 04:41.54 | mjc | it's really funny in AV though, usually ends up in the top 3 for damage, killing blows, and/or capped bases |
| 04:42.51 | mjc | holy hell, I think wowaceupdater might run in mono on OSX |
| 04:43.19 | ckknight | I wouldn't doubt it |
| 04:43.27 | ckknight | not like it makes p/calls |
| 04:43.33 | mjc | ah, it just dislikes S.W.F. |
| 04:43.47 | mjc | need to write a S.W.F -> Cocoa# wrapper |
| 04:44.33 | Barbanus | ~seen Kadish |
| 04:44.58 | purl | kadish is currently on #wowace (5h 38m 3s). Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 36m 46s, last said: 'The WowAceUpdater person isn't on here, is he?'. |
| 04:44.58 | kergoth | anyone have the hex textures for cycircled that xlevus did? |
| 04:45.04 | kergoth | dont think the textures.rar is still in the forum |
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| 04:45.56 | Barbanus | Blah, I hate taint!! |
| 04:46.16 | mjc | might be easier heh! |
| 04:47.05 | Barbanus | seems to be a few of us that have an issue with taint with MultiBarRight:SetPoint() and MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint() |
| 04:47.13 | Barbanus | The problem is finding out what the hell is causing it |
| 04:50.38 | mjc | ahhhhh .csproj |
| 04:50.52 | mjc | thus dies that idea! |
| 04:50.56 | mjc | ;) |
| 04:51.15 | Xuerian | Haven't tried .net yet.. >..> |
| 04:51.15 | abyssichate | Is there any fix to the ag_unitframes not correctly removing debuff highlighting when you tick it away? |
| 04:51.37 | Barbanus | abyssichate, when did you update? |
| 04:51.46 | mjc | Xuerian: .NET is ok, getting stuff to work on mono on non-win32 is a pain |
| 04:51.54 | Barbanus | There was a fix for soemthing to do with debuff highlighting this morning at like 2am PST |
| 04:52.18 | Xuerian | mjc: Thought they released a MacAceUpdater build, or was that specu-ware? |
| 04:53.17 | Kaelten | lol, now that I see what % of the traffic is files its amazing, lol |
| 04:53.59 | Kaelten | stabbity stab stab stab? |
| 04:54.07 | Barbanus | BIG stabs |
| 04:54.22 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 04:54.30 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 04:54.30 | Xuerian | Kaelten: What's the percentage? |
| 04:54.34 | Barbanus | seems taint is pretty much impossible to track eh? |
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| 04:56.01 | Kadish | Barb: I jsut had this same convo earlier tonite |
| 04:56.14 | Barbanus | Kadish, yea, I saw it .. you ever figure it out? |
| 04:56.28 | Barbanus | I'm having the exact same issue |
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| 04:56.33 | Barbanus | SetPoint() in MultiBarBottomLeft |
| 04:56.47 | mjc | bah |
| 04:57.07 | Barbanus | Kadish, you use any non-ace mods? |
| 04:57.45 | Kadish | a couple |
| 04:57.52 | Kadish | nothing fixed yet |
| 04:58.03 | Kadish | sorta on hold while im in HFR |
| 04:58.31 | Kadish | its backtracing to Ace2 though, so it must be an ace mod right? |
| 04:58.44 | Barbanus | nope |
| 04:58.46 | vid` | Barbanus |
| 04:58.48 | vid` | im geting it too |
| 04:58.52 | vid` | its annoying |
| 04:58.55 | vid` | cause bugsack is freaking out |
| 04:59.03 | vid` | it gives me 10 error msg disabling buggrabber |
| 04:59.04 | vid` | or whatever |
| 04:59.04 | Barbanus | vid`, same with me |
| 04:59.05 | Xuerian | mjc: No luck? |
| 04:59.09 | vid` | every 30 sec |
| 04:59.09 | Kadish | vid`, barb, can we head to a separate room? |
| 04:59.15 | Kadish | for pasting |
| 04:59.16 | vid` | good luck for me tho |
| 04:59.17 | vid` | i got like uh |
| 04:59.21 | vid` | 140 addons :P |
| 04:59.28 | vid` | i just live with it |
| 04:59.34 | Kadish | join #acebugtrack |
| 04:59.35 | Barbanus | Lemme see how many I have ... |
| 04:59.35 | vid` | im goin to bed or i would :) |
| 04:59.52 | Barbanus | 193 objects! |
| 04:59.54 | Barbanus | :P |
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| 05:00.04 | Barbanus | some are really old, and not even 2.0 |
| 05:00.09 | Barbanus | I should clean them out |
| 05:00.18 | Barbanus | I'm gonna do that first :P |
| 05:01.12 | Kadish | well |
| 05:01.16 | Kadish | i have 50 ace addons |
| 05:01.35 | Kadish | and ive updated them just earlier today |
| 05:01.35 | mjc | Xuerian: shrug |
| 05:02.22 | Xuerian | >.< |
| 05:02.48 | kergoth | sigh.. damnit build, go faster |
| 05:03.09 | Xuerian | Kergoth: do you have to build it every time you test something? |
| 05:03.29 | kergoth | yea, but it doesnt rebuild whats already been built, only have to do a full one if a major change has occurred |
| 05:03.51 | kergoth | naturally what i spent all day today trying to fix was broken by someone elses code, so i have to do a full build to get their fix |
| 05:03.55 | kergoth | '/me grumbles |
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| 05:05.34 | Xuerian | >.< |
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| 05:22.23 | Xuerian | Hokay, what's the popular raid log export format |
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| 05:24.04 | mjc | anyone mind sending me the wow exes and DLLs for 2.0.5? I can't patch twice (running the OSX and windows versions on the same mac pro ) |
| 05:24.05 | mjc | :P |
| 05:26.40 | Industrial | I pimped my firefox |
| 05:26.41 | Industrial | http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2541/untitledqq7.png |
| 05:28.58 | mjc | Industrial: greasemonkey, pimp it out more |
| 05:29.36 | Industrial | hmm, I never tried greasemonkey |
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| 05:29.47 | kergoth | greasemonkey rocks. that and stylish |
| 05:29.48 | mjc | someone zip me the wow exe's and dll's :P |
| 05:30.22 | Kadish | how about .rar |
| 05:30.47 | mjc | works too |
| 05:31.08 | Kadish | or 7z |
| 05:31.11 | Kadish | smaller |
| 05:31.17 | Industrial | how about |
| 05:31.18 | Industrial | cab |
| 05:31.19 | Industrial | :D |
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| 05:31.23 | Kadish | .zoo |
| 05:31.26 | Kadish | .ace |
| 05:31.29 | Kadish | .xxe |
| 05:31.31 | Kadish | is popualr |
| 05:32.06 | Xuerian | 4.5mb, a we bit much for me to send over dialup during shared hours. |
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| 05:32.30 | Industrial | javascript eh? |
| 05:32.41 | Kadish | http://anubis.case.edu/stuff.zip |
| 05:32.47 | Kadish | go get it mjc |
| 05:32.54 | Xuerian | ~cheer Kadish |
| 05:33.08 | purl | Three cheers for Kadish! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 05:33.08 | mjc | thanks |
| 05:33.53 | mjc | kergoth: miss ya on suramar. |
| 05:34.05 | Kadish | huzzah |
| 05:34.37 | kergoth | heh :| |
| 05:34.40 | kergoth | i miss wow in general |
| 05:34.43 | kergoth | no time to play |
| 05:38.02 | kergoth | if i'm here past 1 there's no way i'm coming in tomorrow |
| 05:38.06 | kergoth | fuck that |
| 05:38.07 | kergoth | heh |
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| 05:41.06 | kergoth | purl: entertain me |
| 05:41.15 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:41.21 | kergoth | ~emulate fry |
| 05:41.23 | purl | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 05:43.04 | Xuerian | >.< |
| 05:43.06 | mjc | ~emulate kergoth |
| 05:43.08 | purl | Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was. |
| 05:43.15 | mjc | kergoth: pwning an instance with partybot feral probably |
| 05:43.15 | mjc | :p |
| 05:44.18 | mjc | watching things die in RFC is funny |
| 05:44.48 | Xuerian | screeeenie :p |
| 05:45.22 | mjc | of RFC? |
| 05:45.40 | Xuerian | I duno, I'm bored writing this thing =( |
| 05:45.49 | kergoth | writing what? |
| 05:45.52 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 05:45.53 | purl | Now, I know you're a feminist, and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man. |
| 05:46.31 | kergoth | never a good sign when you're at work when the cleaning folks arrive |
| 05:46.35 | Xuerian | A Copy-paste export window (It gave me trouble in the past... >.>) for the export handlers I'm also writing for XLoot Monitor's history component which I still need to write SEE-Loot for. |
| 05:46.43 | kergoth | ah |
| 05:47.08 | Xuerian | Cleaning folks? o.0 |
| 05:47.25 | kergoth | yeap, people vacuuming and shit |
| 05:48.43 | Xuerian | Oh. duh <.< |
| 05:48.44 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 05:48.46 | purl | do a little dance! |
| 05:49.00 | kergoth | i should watch some invader zim when i get home |
| 05:49.03 | kergoth | ~emulate zim |
| 05:49.04 | purl | my SPINE! |
| 05:49.09 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 05:49.11 | purl | I'm delicious! No one should be this delicious! |
| 05:49.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:50.17 | Industrial | I didnt like invader zim :\ Only thing i liked about it is that they use "monies" as currency |
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| 05:50.52 | kergoth | hehe. yay monies |
| 05:51.07 | xlvii | Blade Twisting, Vitality or Murder? |
| 05:51.13 | xlvii | I'm stuck with what to put points into now |
| 05:51.14 | kergoth | i like Gir, he's amusing |
| 05:52.23 | xlvii | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oZG0Ez0Vzx0ho > That's my current build.. not sure what to put the next point into. I use Swords. |
| 05:52.46 | kergoth | "How could you run out of fuel that quick?" "I emptied it out." "Emptied it out? Why?" "To make room for the tuna! (in an exasperated voice, then takes the tuna out and eats it)" |
| 05:54.34 | Xuerian | Wish that showed on network tv XD |
| 05:55.18 | kergoth | boooored |
| 05:55.19 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 05:55.22 | purl | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
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| 05:57.19 | Xuerian | I hate editboxes. |
| 05:57.24 | Xuerian | Hate, hate hate. |
| 05:57.58 | Xuerian | Oh, would you look at that. It works now. |
| 06:00.27 | kergoth | see, stabbing always fixes things |
| 06:01.15 | Xuerian | Victory! Vengeance! Voluptuous Coochies! |
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| 06:03.24 | emblanask | i must say, Cartographer is great :) nice work! |
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| 06:04.25 | Xuerian | More stabbity-stabbity time... Must figure out how to constrain text to a certain area.... >.> |
| 06:04.32 | emblanask | tho who can i ask if i can't get the 'send to guild' feature to work? :o |
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| 06:09.07 | Xuerian | Aieeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 06:09.50 | Kaelten | Related stories |
| 06:09.50 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.50 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.50 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.52 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.52 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.53 | Kaelten | Audio recordings of shows following the death of the 28-year old woman, Jennifer Strange, who died from water intoxication after failing to win the main prize of a Nintendo Wii and winning second prize tickets to a Justin Timberlake concert, have prompted a spokesperson from the Sacramento County Sheriff’s department to say they have launched an investigation. |
| 06:10.03 | Kaelten | bah, sorry for the bad copy spam |
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| 06:12.09 | Fisker- | anyone got any experience with http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1498/attack-bar-timer/ ? |
| 06:14.55 | sevencorvina | Fisker, I remember something similar about a year ago, it was basically a modification of the old EnergyWatch. |
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| 06:15.48 | kergoth | is that useful? |
| 06:15.59 | Fisker- | attack bar timer? |
| 06:16.03 | kergoth | yeah |
| 06:16.07 | Fisker- | depends on your class |
| 06:16.15 | Fisker- | paladins and shamans has swings during casting |
| 06:16.30 | Fisker- | so pretty important to know when you're swinging imo |
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| 06:16.59 | sevencorvina | I found it handy for beardruids, timing a swipe just after an attack before a maul. |
| 06:17.04 | anenigma | wtb: auth server ? |
| 06:17.04 | Fisker- | also in relation to your seals and judgements |
| 06:17.39 | Fisker- | anyone here play a paladin btw? |
| 06:17.48 | anenigma | me, sort of |
| 06:17.53 | anenigma | does level 29 count? |
| 06:18.21 | Fisker- | well you're almost as high level as me |
| 06:18.21 | Fisker- | :P |
| 06:18.38 | Fisker- | Just if anyone knows if it's intended that judgements doesn't refresh beyond 10 seconds on their debuff timer |
| 06:18.46 | anenigma | you just conducting surveys, or .. aah |
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| 06:19.08 | anenigma | yeah, melee swings afaik, set judgement time left to 10 seconds if it's below that |
| 06:19.15 | anenigma | if that makes sense, bodgy english ftw |
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| 06:20.09 | Fisker- | well judgements have a 20 second debuff timer, when reaching 10 seconds in the debuff time melee swings doesn't refresh them anymore (dunno if crusader strike does) |
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| 06:20.29 | Fisker- | kinda annoying on higher level targets with a 3.8 speed axe :P |
| 06:20.32 | Dhraga | Morning all |
| 06:20.53 | anenigma | yeah, it sucks. i'm still using verigan's fist but it's fairly slow. |
| 06:21.18 | Kaelten | mornin |
| 06:21.36 | Fisker- | morning |
| 06:21.38 | Xuerian | 'morning, Kaelten :P |
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| 06:22.00 | kergoth | 11:20 and my build still isnt done.. would be nice to actually work on this bug at some point |
| 06:22.04 | kergoth | grr |
| 06:22.10 | waffle | ugh, sorry for impending cycle: |
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| 06:25.18 | waffle | us auth is down :< |
| 06:25.58 | anenigma | yup |
| 06:26.07 | anenigma | and since auth is down, forums magically die |
| 06:26.26 | Fisker- | yesterday kalimdor was down for like 6 hours :( |
| 06:26.30 | Kaelten | well my world is sad and my life has been disrupted. |
| 06:26.34 | Kaelten | my computer chair broke. :( |
| 06:26.42 | waffle | hey. now instead of being stuck at "Auth", I'm stuck at "Connecting." PROGRESS?! |
| 06:26.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaelten, noo |
| 06:27.06 | Kirkburn|afk | What on earth did you do to it? |
| 06:27.15 | waffle | what kind of chair was it? |
| 06:27.20 | Kaelten | I used it heavily for going on two and a half years |
| 06:27.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, CIA-17 must be soooo bored right now :P |
| 06:27.35 | Kaelten | leaning in it and sitting in it between 5 and 15 hours a day |
| 06:28.01 | Kaelten | waffle: a nice high back padded one I got from office depot a while back. |
| 06:28.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Jesus?! You /sat/ in your chair?? No wonder it's broken, you nublet! |
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| 06:28.25 | Fisker- | How can't this quest be a 100% drop |
| 06:28.32 | Fisker- | "Go farm these animals and give me their hearts" |
| 06:28.46 | Fisker- | You're telling me only 50% of them are living? O_o |
| 06:28.47 | break19 | Kaelten: must be nice. mine was taken from me 1.5yrs ago.. been using a plastic lawnchair since. |
| 06:28.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Depends how much you mangle the mob in killing it |
| 06:29.00 | sevencorvina | Fisker-, maybe you're making their hearts explode, and you can't bring them a popped heart? |
| 06:29.18 | Fisker- | :( |
| 06:29.20 | Kaelten | heh |
| 06:29.26 | anenigma | waffle: On that note, one guy I know asked me if "Disconnected from server" is classed as progress, compard to "Authenticating..." |
| 06:29.34 | Kaelten | my fiance has let me borrow hers because I use it more, but I'm going to need to buy a new one :( |
| 06:31.08 | sevencorvina | I've found that motel beds make excellent chairs. |
| 06:31.47 | anenigma | sevencorvina: I just have trouble getting them home after visiting the motel though |
| 06:33.45 | PProvost | Yeah, I reorg hotel rooms too. |
| 06:34.07 | break19 | Kaelten: mean, nasty woman by the name of Katrina took *my* $100 high back, plush leather chair.. even the armrests were soft.. |
| 06:34.18 | break19 | she took the house too, but.. my CHAIR?! *cry* |
| 06:36.45 | break19 | damn that peer! |
| 06:37.29 | Barbanus | I FUCKING HATE TAINT! |
| 06:38.05 | sevencorvina | Aww, learn to love the taint. I mean, it has to be there for a reaso-- oh wait, you're talking about UI code... |
| 06:40.02 | Barbanus | I'm trying to enable mods 1 by 1 to find this taint, but yea .. its not working |
| 06:40.16 | Barbanus | (frustrating the hell out of me tho) |
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| 06:40.39 | sevencorvina | Is there a specific instance of taint though? I mean, what's triggering it? |
| 06:40.45 | sevencorvina | A keystroke? A lack of keystroke? |
| 06:41.10 | Barbanus | combat, and I have no idea what happens exactly |
| 06:41.20 | Barbanus | start fighting, and it happens |
| 06:41.23 | sevencorvina | Ah, hm. |
| 06:41.24 | Barbanus | and not all fights |
| 06:41.30 | Barbanus | I'm trying to track it down tho |
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| 06:42.52 | sevencorvina | Absolutely something to post on the bugtrac/bugzilla/comments-on-the-mod when ya find it though. |
| 06:44.21 | Barbanus | hmmmm I enabled MobHealth and Capping, and then I got it ... might be one of those two ... but I'm still confirming |
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| 06:44.44 | sevencorvina | Capping? *searches* |
| 06:45.21 | Barbanus | its a BG mod, shouldnt be doing anything outside ... |
| 06:45.41 | sevencorvina | Aha... hrm, those two seem to have nothing that would cause taint... |
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| 06:46.01 | sevencorvina | Yah, just looked it up. Also, grabbing Capping since I've become addicted to AV. |
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| 06:51.20 | sevencorvina | Barb, the only conditions I can think of are that the version of MobHealth you're using is somehow causing taint when trying to look up the health of a mob you haven't seen? The only logic I've been able to pull out of what you've given... |
| 06:51.45 | waffle | US Auth back up |
| 06:52.08 | sevencorvina | Any new frontscreen announcements? |
| 06:52.11 | Codayus | Woot. |
| 06:52.13 | Barbanus | sevencorvina, I'm not sure ... I'm still looking |
| 06:52.28 | waffle | yeah. one "We're looking into it." and another "We restarted the auth server, maybe it will work now." |
| 06:52.51 | sevencorvina | Ah. I'm still waiting on "Feathermoon is still far too full, so we're splitting it." |
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| 06:57.09 | sevencorvina | I'm not gonna bother logging on until the Aussie hours... only stable hours I can fit in. >.> |
| 06:57.25 | kergoth | cube farms are the devil |
| 06:57.29 | Barbanus | sevencorvina, it seems like its not an issue for brand new mobs, but rather mobs I have seen before, feels like when it is "correcting" the mobhealth value |
| 06:57.43 | sevencorvina | Hrm. |
| 06:58.09 | sevencorvina | Are you using the most recent MobHealth? |
| 06:58.14 | Xuerian | Cube farms? o.0 |
| 06:58.21 | Barbanus | Yep, sure am |
| 06:58.38 | sevencorvina | Sorry for the generic question, just something one has t'check, y'know? Okies, lemme see... |
| 06:58.48 | Barbanus | of course :) |
| 07:00.07 | sevencorvina | Changelog seems to state that the only updates to it have been... TOC changes. Though I haven't noticed this... are you using a specific UnitFrame mod? |
| 07:01.11 | Barbanus | I'm using agUF, but Kadish is also seeing the same thing, and hes using XPerl |
| 07:01.18 | Kadish | aye |
| 07:01.34 | Fisker- | anyone know how pallypower works? |
| 07:01.38 | Barbanus | Kadish, does it go away for you when you disable MobHealth? |
| 07:01.44 | Barbanus | Fisker-, yea, I use it all of the time |
| 07:01.49 | Kadish | let me give it a check |
| 07:01.50 | Kadish | 1 sec |
| 07:02.03 | Barbanus | Fisker-, you can righclick the anchor, set buffs per class |
| 07:02.13 | Barbanus | Fisker-, promoted people can set them for the whole raid |
| 07:02.30 | Barbanus | And then you can 1 click to buff the class |
| 07:02.55 | PProvost | Login working yet for anyeon? |
| 07:03.14 | sevencorvina | PProv, waffle said that the auth servers were back up. |
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| 07:03.24 | Fisker- | all i have is the menu but i can't find out how to set buffs for anything |
| 07:03.29 | Fisker- | i'm grouped/solo though |
| 07:03.59 | Barbanus | Fisker-, the little anchor, rightclick it .. it should bring up a large screen with the list of classes |
| 07:04.12 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:04.13 | Fisker- | i got that |
| 07:04.16 | Fisker- | but i can do nothing on it |
| 07:04.22 | Barbanus | click under a class |
| 07:04.45 | Kadish | :( |
| 07:04.58 | Fisker- | nothing :( |
| 07:04.58 | Kadish | still does it for me |
| 07:04.58 | Kadish | with MH3 disabled |
| 07:05.02 | Barbanus | blah |
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| 07:05.20 | Barbanus | Must not be MH3 then ... grarg |
| 07:05.33 | Barbanus | Fisker-, are you on your paladin? |
| 07:05.36 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:05.53 | Barbanus | do you see your char name on that screen? |
| 07:06.10 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 07:06.12 | Fisker- | Myname 0 |
| 07:06.44 | Barbanus | your paladin is 60? has the greater buffs? |
| 07:07.17 | Fisker- | nah |
| 07:07.23 | Fisker- | no greater buffs |
| 07:07.28 | Barbanus | thats why |
| 07:07.34 | Fisker- | :o |
| 07:07.35 | Barbanus | it only works with greater buffs |
| 07:07.43 | Barbanus | its for assigning classes for raids |
| 07:08.09 | Kadish | question, can we not just hook these SetPoint() functions and have them spit out who called them when they are called? |
| 07:08.12 | Fisker- | oh well said it's both for group/solo/raid and normal blessings on the curse-gaming page :o |
| 07:08.40 | kergoth | Kadish: the person that called them isnt going to point out the source of the problem. if it did, the stack track would be sufficient |
| 07:08.48 | kergoth | trace, even |
| 07:09.19 | Kadish | fair enough |
| 07:09.33 | kergoth | amazing how quiet svn is now that tbc is out |
| 07:09.53 | Barbanus | kergoth, the bot is also dead :P |
| 07:10.13 | Industrial | lol/. |
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| 07:10.32 | Industrial | jeeeeez google code is slow today:| (project hosting) |
| 07:10.45 | kergoth | yea, but its still obvious, the low frequency of the emails i'm getting from the woawce google group, and the tiny # of revisions fetched when i svk sync (a few times a day) |
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| 07:12.08 | Industrial | oh ffs, can anyone zip up a recent Clique? |
| 07:13.02 | PProvost | I just grabbed the one on wowi |
| 07:13.10 | Industrial | in other news Eavesdrop totally kicks ass and ive replaved msbt with it :o |
| 07:13.11 | Industrial | right |
| 07:13.20 | Kadish | eavesdrop? |
| 07:13.28 | ckknight | agUF gives me errors |
| 07:13.30 | ckknight | it's annoying. |
| 07:13.35 | Barbanus | Kadish, try disabling capping |
| 07:13.45 | Kadish | ok, 1 sec |
| 07:14.03 | Barbanus | I think its capping, and getting updates about world pvp while in combat |
| 07:14.05 | PProvost | Yes, EavesDrop rules |
| 07:14.20 | Barbanus | capping hides the mini battlemap and stuff |
| 07:14.21 | Cyrez | I use X-Perl with FuBar. They just look so sexy together with all the black. |
| 07:14.43 | Industrial | doens tx-perl do all that extra raid crap and even raid management? |
| 07:14.45 | PProvost | Only errors I've been seeing lately is that MetaHUD is annoyed by something coming out of FlightMap's timers... but none of that is Ace. :) |
| 07:15.16 | Kadish | Industrial: not if you disable those sub-addons |
| 07:15.19 | Industrial | k |
| 07:15.20 | Cyrez | Yes but all of it is broken into seperate addons that you can just shut off. |
| 07:15.31 | Cyrez | I have all the raid stuff off and everything else on. |
| 07:15.48 | Antiarc | Can I make an AceModuleCore module disabled by default? |
| 07:16.19 | kergoth | PProvost: try InFlight perhaps? its timers seem happy |
| 07:16.21 | Kadish | Barbanus: nope :( |
| 07:16.22 | kergoth | meh |
| 07:16.33 | kergoth | this build didnt boot on the device, and i think the problem has nothing to do with my code |
| 07:16.33 | Barbanus | Kadish, really? |
| 07:16.34 | Barbanus | meh |
| 07:16.35 | Industrial | Antiarc: erm, dont load it? |
| 07:16.40 | kergoth | and if i dont fix my bug tonight... |
| 07:16.45 | Kadish | seems so |
| 07:16.47 | Kadish | :/ |
| 07:16.49 | sevencorvina | oRA, Grid, Clique, XRS. Love. |
| 07:16.53 | Industrial | Antiarc: you are supposed to only include the parts of ace you are gunna use.. :P |
| 07:17.35 | Antiarc | Right, but I have an addon that mixes in AceModuleCore |
| 07:17.35 | Antiarc | Then I have a file that is a module of my addon |
| 07:17.35 | Xuerian | Hm, I suppose I did see something about rejected passwords... |
| 07:17.35 | Antiarc | However, OnEnable is being called before talent data is available |
| 07:17.35 | Xuerian | Any way to commit at the moment? |
| 07:17.40 | Antiarc | And I want it to be called later so it is available |
| 07:17.47 | Gagorian | Antiarc: PLAYER_ALIVE is good for that |
| 07:17.58 | Antiarc | Hm, ok. |
| 07:18.08 | Iceroth | hmmm, there was apparently some changes to svn - something i should as a dev know? |
| 07:18.28 | kergoth | Antiarc: shouldve checked http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process :P |
| 07:18.38 | kergoth | Antiarc: it says talent info is available as PLAYER_ALIVE, as gagorian says |
| 07:18.40 | kergoth | :) |
| 07:18.43 | ckknight | ~framexml |
| 07:18.49 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 07:18.56 | Antiarc | >_> |
| 07:22.26 | Barbanus | Kadish, what is EQL3? |
| 07:22.47 | Kadish | enhanced questlog |
| 07:22.51 | Kadish | non-ace |
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| 07:26.50 | Barbanus | I fucking give up, lol |
| 07:27.20 | Kadish | yeah |
| 07:27.24 | Kadish | rediculous |
| 07:27.52 | Kadish | so if this is all so impossible, what does taintchecker do? |
| 07:28.19 | kergoth | afaik it captures the state of the lua environment at two points and compares it, to see what got tainted or so |
| 07:28.34 | kergoth | so you can run without an addon, then with, and see if it broke it, or so |
| 07:28.42 | Kadish | i see |
| 07:28.47 | Dhraga | Anyone here from the EU Anachronos server ? |
| 07:29.17 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:29.19 | kergoth | imo we need a binary search addon wrt addon enabling/disabling. first pass disables half your addons, then half of the remaining, etc, so you can isolate a problem |
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| 07:29.23 | kergoth | but.. |
| 07:29.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 07:29.38 | Dhraga | morning ammo |
| 07:30.20 | Industrial | EU/Daggerspine/Horde |
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| 07:36.00 | Antiarc | http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8653/envdodgepd3.jpg |
| 07:36.02 | Antiarc | Uhh. |
| 07:36.31 | Mikma | Industrial: PONG, 18 |
| 07:36.50 | sevencorvina | Hrm... curious point before I spend a few weeks trying to code this; would it be possible in the new system to make a mod that operates similar to a emergency monitor/decursive, but shows a mini-unitframe with the character and the debuff on them, in that you can use clique to decursivize? Detox and the current Decursive don't cut it for me, or many of the other healers I play with. |
| 07:37.14 | [Ammo] | can't sevencorvina |
| 07:37.25 | [Ammo] | you'll have to practice wack the rat better |
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| 07:37.28 | kergoth | sevencorvina: emergency lists like that are unsecure frames, you cant click on them like that. |
| 07:37.37 | IND|Feldia | Antiarc, what's the significance of that link? |
| 07:37.37 | sevencorvina | Ah, thank you. |
| 07:37.43 | IND|Feldia | aside from whoever took it is a dumbass |
| 07:37.45 | sevencorvina | Saved me some time there. |
| 07:37.49 | Industrial | Mikma: ME2 HAH |
| 07:37.51 | Xuerian | sevencorvina: To compress both those answers, you just asked for PRECISELY what blizzard nerfed. |
| 07:38.19 | Mikma | Industrial: expecting lvl25 today or so |
| 07:38.33 | Industrial | yup |
| 07:38.36 | Xuerian | Industrial, Mikma: Ya'll level slow. |
| 07:38.40 | sevencorvina | So my current Grid/Clique setup is the best I can get? I can live with that. Actually, I really like it. |
| 07:38.45 | Mikma | Xuerian: i have life, forgive me :( |
| 07:38.50 | Xuerian | Curse you. |
| 07:38.56 | Industrial | Xuerian: I just level slow. |
| 07:39.00 | Xuerian | sevencorvina: Pretty much. |
| 07:39.06 | Xuerian | Industrial: <3 |
| 07:39.08 | sevencorvina | Well, danke y'all. ^_^ |
| 07:39.08 | kergoth | sevencorvina: yep, raidframes with visual indicators and click casting is about your only option |
| 07:39.33 | Barbanus | wack-a-mole |
| 07:39.37 | Industrial | Xuerian: you are the pro :( If i paypal you 10 bucks will you 1-60 a char for me? :P |
| 07:39.46 | Industrial | xD |
| 07:40.01 | [Ammo] | Industrial: spend 40 euros and get a 60 with greens :p |
| 07:40.10 | Xuerian | Industrial: If you expect it done in my all-time-fastest-to-60-record of 40 in-game days, SURE |
| 07:40.39 | Industrial | (ofcource I was just kidding) |
| 07:40.43 | Xuerian | Barbanus: Someone needs to make a mod that adds arcade whack-a-mole games to click-casting. |
| 07:40.47 | Xuerian | (I wasn't.) |
| 07:41.14 | Antiarc | Feldia: Envenom is a finihsing move. |
| 07:41.23 | Antiarc | Surprise attacks makes it so my finishers can't be dodged. |
| 07:41.24 | Xuerian | sevencorvina: Welcome to addon coding, year {too many}, Post-BC. |
| 07:41.29 | Antiarc | A guard dodged my envenom. |
| 07:41.45 | Feldia | ugh, I must be tired |
| 07:41.52 | Feldia | I was reading that as if "envenom" was the guys name |
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| 07:42.19 | Xuerian | No, see, Feldia, they compensate for that in the log. Anyone with a name (Or description) gets trapped in these handy square brace things. |
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| 07:42.42 | Xuerian | s/that/half-conscious sleep deprived zombies/ |
| 07:42.42 | sevencorvina | Xuer, I was writing mods around January last year; nothing very broadly released, just within my guild and the like... Wanting to get back into it, with Ace2. My biggest hopes right now are in FlexBar2 though. |
| 07:42.47 | Feldia | really? I believe I implied that I came to that understanding with my previous statement |
| 07:42.58 | Xuerian | Feldia: I'm just being redundant :( |
| 07:43.28 | Xuerian | sevencorvina: I didn't expect you were new to anything. Just a general redundant statement. I think I'm joining the aforementioned legions of "sleep-deprived zombies". |
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| 07:43.58 | sevencorvina | Sleep? Haven't done that in a--*narcoleptic episode* |
| 07:44.15 | [Ammo] | anyone know of a good diskchecking utility for winXP |
| 07:44.21 | [Ammo] | I think my HD is dying slowly |
| 07:44.28 | [Ammo] | now takes 4 minutes for WoW to boot |
| 07:44.32 | [Ammo] | gets slower every day |
| 07:45.05 | sevencorvina | Ammo, if it's a WD or Maxtor drive, they should have given you a bootable utility disc to do tests like that... |
| 07:46.00 | [Ammo] | I probably lost that disk long ago :) |
| 07:46.04 | [Ammo] | but it's a WD 120gig |
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| 07:47.15 | sevencorvina | ATA or SATA? |
| 07:47.27 | [Ammo] | euhm IDE ancient |
| 07:47.30 | [Ammo] | I think :) |
| 07:47.40 | [Ammo] | haven't opened the PC in like 4 years :p |
| 07:47.53 | sevencorvina | http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp?swid=1 |
| 07:48.00 | sevencorvina | I hope this helps. |
| 07:48.27 | krka | get a linux live cd for harddrive testing |
| 07:48.29 | [Ammo] | hmm just went on some more investigation |
| 07:48.42 | [Ammo] | and seems microsoft antispyware is slowing it all down |
| 07:48.48 | [Ammo] | gtadtserv.exe grrr |
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| 07:48.55 | [Ammo] | eats all CPU while WoW boots |
| 07:48.56 | sevencorvina | krka, *giggles* I was avoiding saying that. *whistles at her /version* |
| 07:50.38 | [Ammo] | time to delete that stuff |
| 07:50.40 | [Ammo] | and see if it helps |
| 07:53.13 | ckknight | when did Alliance get good at WSG? |
| 07:53.32 | nee|lap | Hm. EavesDrop seems to show XP gains twice |
| 07:53.37 | sevencorvina | ckk, I think it was last night. |
| 07:53.42 | pastamancer | all the pugs are busy leveling shamans |
| 07:54.05 | kergoth | Industrial: heh, i use msbt and eavesdrop both, msbt for on th efly display and its event consolidation, and eavesdrop if i need to scroll back to see exactly what happened after a fight |
| 07:56.18 | sevencorvina | MSBT? *searches* |
| 07:56.29 | nee|lap | Mik's Scrolling Battle Text, not Ace |
| 07:56.35 | sevencorvina | Aha, danke. |
| 07:57.32 | sevencorvina | Hm, intrigue. |
| 08:03.13 | ckknight | anyone know how to easily reproduce <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()'. ? |
| 08:03.19 | ckknight | I want to get to the bottom of it. |
| 08:03.48 | Barbanus | get in combat, fight something :P |
| 08:04.00 | Barbanus | Honestly, I can't tell |
| 08:04.14 | Barbanus | It *MIGHT* have something to do with the world pvp objectives |
| 08:04.18 | Barbanus | but I dont know |
| 08:04.30 | Industrial | kergoth: I found msbt to be drawing AWAY my attention from the fight |
| 08:04.58 | tigg | I think I have seen this error even without any world pvp around |
| 08:05.02 | Industrial | i have eavesdrop out of my view (corner) so i can still look at it when i make crits or wanna see ym damage |
| 08:05.21 | Industrial | Anyone here use Clique |
| 08:05.23 | Industrial | ? |
| 08:05.54 | kergoth | i'm in hell, i swear. critical issue i'm trying to fix at work, and keep running into other issues preventing me from even starting work on it |
| 08:06.08 | Barbanus | ckknight, you getting that error too? |
| 08:06.13 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:06.17 | ckknight | I want to fix it |
| 08:07.28 | ckknight | Barbanus: do you use agUF? |
| 08:07.38 | Barbanus | Yep |
| 08:07.43 | ckknight | FuBar? |
| 08:07.48 | pastamancer | hmm, on my pally, they've all come from QuestLogFrame:OnEvent -> QuestLog_Update -> UIParent_ManageFramePositions |
| 08:07.51 | Barbanus | Yes |
| 08:07.56 | ckknight | blast |
| 08:08.06 | ckknight | pastamancer: that's a separate issue |
| 08:08.15 | Barbanus | However, Kadish doesnt use either of those, and is getting the problem |
| 08:08.17 | pastamancer | oh, same bug, different cause? |
| 08:08.27 | pastamancer | or rather same symptom |
| 08:08.29 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:08.35 | Barbanus | This is Kadish's addons http://ace.pastebin.ca/321202 |
| 08:08.40 | Barbanus | I'll make one of mine |
| 08:10.07 | Barbanus | Mine, http://ace.pastebin.ca/321299 |
| 08:10.14 | Barbanus | (Yes, I have too many addons) |
| 08:11.25 | oxman | why aguf don't show target name for party castingbar ? |
| 08:16.12 | ckknight | well, reproduced |
| 08:16.20 | ckknight | in combat and the pvp status changes |
| 08:16.38 | Barbanus | I had a feeling thats what it was |
| 08:16.50 | PProvost | aguf isn't showing party buffs for me... |
| 08:16.59 | Barbanus | I thought it was Capping, but its not |
| 08:17.44 | ckknight | it's not capping |
| 08:17.52 | ckknight | it very well could be Jostle. |
| 08:18.12 | ckknight | but I don't think so... |
| 08:18.27 | Barbanus | Jostle? |
| 08:18.31 | ckknight | gonna try with out it and reproduce |
| 08:18.36 | ckknight | it's a library used by FuBar |
| 08:20.43 | kergoth | hmm, nobody added notes for ramparts or blood furnace to cart instancenotes yet eh |
| 08:22.16 | kergoth | sigh.. |
| 08:22.20 | kergoth | bathrooms at work are locked |
| 08:22.23 | kergoth | and i have no idea where the keys are |
| 08:22.38 | kergoth | "sorry boss, i couldnt finish the bug i was working on cause i had to pee" |
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| 08:27.37 | PProvost | Night all |
| 08:27.48 | sevencorvina | I love waiting for BGs to start. *sad* Oh, speaking of ag_UF... anyone else have issue with pets not showing up? |
| 08:28.38 | ckknight | I think it's Jostle |
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| 08:44.06 | Industrial | my teacher just called me, he approved some more works (instead of doing tests I have to probe that im able to do what they expect of my throughout the year - so i dont get grades) and said "dude, have a nice weekend" (fri 9:45 am) |
| 08:44.15 | Industrial | bedtime! :D |
| 08:44.31 | Industrial | (argh the typos) |
| 08:45.30 | [Ammo] | http://ace.pastebin.ca/321202 |
| 08:45.32 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 08:45.34 | [Ammo] | bad mouse :p |
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| 08:47.48 | Barbanus | figure it out ckknight? |
| 08:47.48 | ckknight | I committed |
| 08:47.48 | ckknight | CIA must be down |
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| 08:47.58 | [Ammo] | CIA is not set up because kaelten couldn't reach the cia server |
| 08:47.59 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 08:48.11 | [Ammo] | so the postcommit is disabl;ed |
| 08:51.13 | pastamancer | was it jostle? |
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| 08:52.11 | SkorcherX | LF screenshot of voyeur in action |
| 08:52.33 | SkorcherX | how just how does it compare to superinspect? |
| 08:54.14 | [Ammo] | install and try it :) |
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| 08:55.14 | Kaelten-Laptop | does rc.local get ran in ubuntu on server reboot? |
| 08:55.35 | steev | nfi |
| 08:55.46 | steev | i don't use ubuntu, but i *think* it does |
| 08:56.15 | Kaelten-Laptop | it says it runs it at the end of each multiuser runlevel |
| 08:56.19 | Kaelten-Laptop | but that doesn't make sense to me :) |
| 08:56.53 | pastamancer | that means 2 3 and 4 |
| 08:56.53 | steev | you know how runlevels work? |
| 08:57.02 | Kaelten-Laptop | nope |
| 08:57.18 | Kaelten-Laptop | pastamancer: what I'm looking to do is add a startup script on an ubuntu box |
| 08:58.23 | pastamancer | Kaelten-Laptop: take a look at the files in /etc/init.d/ |
| 08:58.36 | pastamancer | Kaelten-Laptop: then man update-rc.d |
| 09:02.12 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: when I hide/show interface, one of my chat frame get lost in the process, any report of this with Prat ? |
| 09:02.40 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: (it maybe a pure Blizzard bug, I exploring possibilties for now) |
| 09:04.07 | nee|lap | Kaelten-Laptop: check the ubuntu forums. It's what they're there for. |
| 09:04.38 | nee|lap | SkorcherX: It is not meant to be an alternative to SuperInspect. |
| 09:05.22 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten-Laptop: basically, the number "grep initdefault /etc/inittab" will tell you at which runlevel your config is running by default |
| 09:06.54 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten-Laptop: say it is X, that's means that at startup, every script in /etc/rcX.d/ that looks like SNNname will be run (S20mysql by exemple) |
| 09:07.29 | Adirelle|work | NN being a number used for ordering scripts |
| 09:07.40 | Kaelten-Laptop | whats S? |
| 09:07.45 | Adirelle|work | Start |
| 09:07.47 | steev | start |
| 09:07.51 | steev | K is kill |
| 09:07.52 | Kaelten-Laptop | and K? |
| 09:07.54 | Kaelten-Laptop | k |
| 09:07.55 | Adirelle|work | and there is K script (KILL) |
| 09:08.31 | Adirelle|work | if your server starts at runlevel 2, each script matching /etc/rc2.d/S* will be run in ascending order |
| 09:10.15 | Adirelle|work | in fact, IIRC, K* scripts will be called, then S** |
| 09:10.40 | Adirelle|work | when the server is shutting down, it enter runlevel 0, thus executing all K* then S* script of /etc/rc0.d |
| 09:10.51 | Adirelle|work | and rebooting usually means entering runlevel 6 |
| 09:11.06 | Kaelten-Laptop | heh, interesting. |
| 09:11.29 | Adirelle|work | *nix booting is almost 100% script driven |
| 09:12.10 | Adirelle|work | in fact, once the kernel is loaded, it starts the init process, which generally is generally configured to call lots of scripts in the right order |
| 09:12.22 | Adirelle|work | s/generally // |
| 09:13.03 | krka | if you use ubunty edgy you could give upstart a try |
| 09:13.55 | Adirelle|work | now, there is often a loot of tool to ease the managment of those scripts |
| 09:14.05 | Adirelle|work | s/a loot of tool/a lot of tools/ |
| 09:14.06 | Adirelle|work | (doh) |
| 09:15.41 | krka | http://upstart.ubuntu.com/doc/getting-started.html |
| 09:16.03 | krka | upstart seems nice |
| 09:16.38 | jjb_ | goooood morning |
| 09:16.58 | sevencorvina | It's morning? Oh dear me. |
| 09:17.09 | jjb_ | 10:15 am :) |
| 09:17.26 | ckknight | ~ugt |
| 09:17.39 | purl | ugt is probably Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 09:18.35 | jjb_ | hehe |
| 09:18.35 | steev | upstart is nice |
| 09:18.35 | steev | if you are ubuntu |
| 09:18.58 | ckknight | people, upgrade agUF and Jostle-2.0 |
| 09:19.06 | ckknight | and see if you still get blocked errors |
| 09:19.14 | ckknight | if you do, tell me what you were doing when you get em |
| 09:19.37 | steev | revision 25551? |
| 09:19.41 | steev | of aguf |
| 09:20.11 | ckknight | yea, I think so |
| 09:20.15 | ckknight | Jostle is in FuBar |
| 09:20.18 | steev | actually, 3:21am, ill have to check tomorrow |
| 09:20.29 | steev | i should head to bed |
| 09:20.33 | steev | work and whatnot and all |
| 09:20.56 | steev | screw it, it aint gonna hurt me to login |
| 09:23.36 | steev | i can't believe i replaced felstriker with a friggin green |
| 09:24.59 | anenigma | bartender3 no longer supports showing cooldowns? or was some other mod doing that for me? |
| 09:25.26 | [Ammo] | OmniCC |
| 09:25.27 | [Ammo] | get it |
| 09:25.44 | steev | it shows em here |
| 09:25.56 | steev | not the countdown, but meh |
| 09:26.30 | anenigma | yeah, countdown is what i meant |
| 09:26.47 | ckknight | where is OmniCC? |
| 09:26.53 | steev | no errors here |
| 09:27.02 | steev | but i didn't do a ton of stuff |
| 09:27.42 | anenigma | ckknight: I assume http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4836-OmniCooldownCount.html ? |
| 09:27.55 | pogotribal | I have an oldversion of BT and cooldowns work fine dunno why he removed them |
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| 09:29.45 | [Ammo] | they were removed because they were not performing well |
| 09:29.52 | [Ammo] | bit buggy and bad performance |
| 09:29.58 | [Ammo] | omniCC is the addon of choice for the |
| 09:29.59 | [Ammo] | +m |
| 09:30.48 | anenigma | is omnicc on svn anywhere? |
| 09:31.05 | nee|lap | It's not an Ace addon |
| 09:31.23 | Trancer | people got too used to every addon being Ace and SVN'd :p |
| 09:31.30 | nee|lap | yup. |
| 09:31.46 | Adirelle|work | svn is not restricted to ace addon, it's just the author choice no to SVN it |
| 09:31.50 | pogotribal | that's what I'm saying, they perform fine as far as I can tell |
| 09:32.11 | Trancer | not many people use SVN for such tho (they should :o) |
| 09:32.17 | Trancer | SVN for tracking of whatever ftw. |
| 09:32.26 | steev | i use svn quite a bit |
| 09:32.27 | anenigma | I don't mind addons being non-svn, but prefer svn mods because they are easier to update |
| 09:32.30 | steev | not just addons |
| 09:32.34 | kergoth | Adirelle|work, its wowace svn, non ace addons dont belong there. they should set up their own svn on google code or something |
| 09:32.35 | Trancer | just wish it could do Word documents (not saved in XML) |
| 09:32.37 | steev | my dotfiles, my etc configs |
| 09:33.04 | steev | everything that i share between my laptops, desktops, and servers |
| 09:33.12 | kergoth | same |
| 09:33.18 | Trancer | likewise |
| 09:33.20 | Trancer | besides porn. |
| 09:33.22 | kergoth | http://covenant.kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/timeline |
| 09:33.23 | kergoth | :) |
| 09:33.28 | anenigma | gah. why do mod authors insist on using ! and colours, and screwing up the alphabetical listing |
| 09:33.32 | steev | oh i put the porn in too |
| 09:33.43 | steev | asvn+savon ftw |
| 09:33.46 | Adirelle|work | kergoth: ask Kaelten what it thinks about svn |
| 09:33.55 | kergoth | Adirelle|work, ? |
| 09:33.56 | Adirelle|work | and non ace-addons |
| 09:34.17 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: he has no real issue, afaik. |
| 09:34.37 | steev | ok, night all |
| 09:34.39 | kergoth | whether he has an issue with it or not, its a waste of wowace.com resources, and adds to confusion, imo |
| 09:35.37 | Adirelle|work | I saw Kaelten, and maybe ckknight, repeately say that wowace svn isn't restricted to aced addons, that's all I say |
| 09:36.22 | [Ammo] | some addons that are 'ace' on the svn are a waste of resources now as well :p |
| 09:36.25 | [Ammo] | arguably ofcourse :) |
| 09:36.49 | Adirelle|work | I don't say it is good or not, I don't have anything against it, as long as it is not overused |
| 09:37.21 | kergoth | i didnt say that wowace svn was restricted, i said they didnt belong there. |
| 09:37.25 | Adirelle|work | (but well, my voice doesn't have an heavy weight on it tho :)) |
| 09:37.29 | kergoth | theres a difference between an enforced policy and a recommendation |
| 09:37.44 | sevencorvina | AV weekend <3... |
| 09:37.59 | nee|lap | hm.. Automaton or Minimalist.. |
| 09:38.56 | nee|lap | They overla[p |
| 09:39.04 | nee|lap | partly unfortunately |
| 09:39.44 | weab | overlap in what way |
| 09:41.05 | ckknight | gah, problem isn't fixed. |
| 09:41.50 | nee|lap | overlap in the sense of which functions they contain |
| 09:41.55 | nee|lap | in what they do :) |
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| 09:42.37 | weab | automaton is really just a collection of modules. could always just remove the ones that minimalist does |
| 09:43.17 | nee|lap | True, but when updated using WAU it gets them again |
| 09:44.04 | weab | that probably would be a bit annoying. |
| 09:44.06 | nee|lap | hm. 'error' in Minimalist. The Auto-Resurrect section has as description 'Auto-Ignore Duel Requests', but conains resurrect-functions |
| 09:44.29 | grennon | seriously? |
| 09:44.50 | grennon | i expected to get a couple of things wrong when i converted it to dewdrop |
| 09:45.01 | grennon | copying and pasteing the wrong functions :-) |
| 09:45.09 | nee|lap | yup |
| 09:45.23 | nee|lap | I'm reading through to see what exactly overlaps |
| 09:45.28 | nee|lap | And noticed that |
| 09:45.59 | nee|lap | The only thing I seem to miss in Automaton is show quest-levels |
| 09:46.20 | grennon | its just the desc field is wrong |
| 09:46.29 | grennon | it shows the wrong tooltip |
| 09:46.35 | grennon | but its the correct setting |
| 09:46.45 | nee|lap | I know, hence the 'error', not error. |
| 09:46.55 | nee|lap | I wasn't sure what to call it :) |
| 09:51.41 | kergoth | man that sfx onyx glossy for cycircled is hot |
| 09:52.09 | nee|lap | I'm not fond of cycircled, I prefer seeing the whole icon :) |
| 09:52.36 | kergoth | i didnt like it at first either, but it turns out i just didnt like the circular textures |
| 09:52.42 | kergoth | pretty square ones suit me fine :) |
| 09:55.18 | nee|lap | :) I'm still fond of dreamlayout |
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| 10:07.23 | [Ammo] | drat grennon was on this channel |
| 10:07.49 | [Ammo] | why am I slow to notice that |
| 10:09.24 | nee|lap | I do not know |
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| 10:19.16 | whizter | hi. is there something like decursive or smartbuff or autobuff for ace2? |
| 10:25.02 | nee|lap | nope |
| 10:25.38 | nee|lap | Use SmartBuff if you want to use something like that, I think it's your best option. |
| 10:28.23 | whizter | ok |
| 10:29.56 | sevencorvina | SmartBuff and SmartDebuff... SmartDebuff is actually half-decent. |
| 10:30.12 | kergoth | damn, xpbarnone is nice |
| 10:34.05 | whizter | can someone tell me why the performance in Alterac Valley is so bad for me? Normally while questing i'm getting >40 fps (~35mb mem), but in AV it drops to an unplayable level sometimes :( I'm using quite alot ace2 addons and a few small others. Which GFX setting could increase my framerate? |
| 10:34.49 | nee|lap | I think it's because of all the player-model rendering |
| 10:36.33 | nee|lap | As for the setting.. hmm.. |
| 10:36.46 | nee|lap | Well, try lowering Terrain Distance |
| 10:37.01 | nee|lap | And Texture Detail |
| 10:37.20 | whizter | ok, i'll test around with these settings.. |
| 10:37.43 | nee|lap | Spell Detail may help too. Well, how about setting them all to low, then turning one up and see what it does, then the next until you figure out which have the most impact for you. |
| 10:37.49 | whizter | would a better CPU increase performance? or perhaps 2gb ram instead of 1? |
| 10:38.36 | nee|lap | 2gb ram would not help that much I think, though I have 2 here, and WoW is more GPU than CPU dependant |
| 10:38.40 | whizter | the problem is: i don't like shitty graphics, but i also don't like bad framerates :D |
| 10:38.47 | whizter | ok |
| 10:38.52 | nee|lap | :) |
| 10:38.54 | nee|lap | Same here |
| 10:39.16 | nee|lap | A game should not only run well to be playable, but look good, especially something as immersive as an RPG |
| 10:39.29 | whizter | yes |
| 10:39.57 | odt | sounds fun |
| 10:40.12 | odt | i play in a window 800x600 with all gfx set to min |
| 10:40.26 | nee|lap | :| |
| 10:40.50 | [Ammo] | I gladly sacrifice some fps to make it look good :) |
| 10:40.52 | nee|lap | odt: Are you doing that because you do things next to WoW? |
| 10:41.00 | [Ammo] | hence i play in full detail etc with 16-20 fps :) |
| 10:41.16 | nee|lap | :) |
| 10:41.37 | whizter | i would go mad with 16-20 fps all the time |
| 10:41.46 | [Ammo] | it's hardly a problem |
| 10:42.05 | nee|lap | I gave my girlfriend a better pc than I have myself, almost makes me feel jealous :P |
| 10:42.13 | [Ammo] | it's not like WoW is faced paced action etc |
| 10:42.28 | nee|lap | duo core and such, but she was playing on a pc made to record from tv, so the upgrade was worth it |
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| 10:42.37 | nee|lap | It can be fast-paced at times :) |
| 10:42.41 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 10:42.54 | nee|lap | Though not as fast-paces as UT/ETF |
| 10:43.01 | nee|lap | *fast-paced |
| 10:43.15 | odt | well, trying to fight a rogue in melee is pretty hectic |
| 10:43.24 | odt | especially when you try to hit him he's behind you already |
| 10:43.26 | [Ammo] | deathcoil, fear, dot dot dot dot dead |
| 10:43.47 | odt | yeah, locks don't have a saying in regards to game pace |
| 10:43.48 | [Ammo] | or just dot dot dot dot |
| 10:43.49 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:44.01 | [Ammo] | usually I forget to use a fear |
| 10:44.21 | nee|lap | warlocks aren't that tough if they don't see you coming |
| 10:44.40 | abbat_w | guys, are bt3 now didn't have cooldown timers? |
| 10:44.48 | nee|lap | abbat_w: No. Get OmniCC |
| 10:45.21 | abbat_w | Hmm.. Why nev remove cooldowns? :( |
| 10:45.35 | nee|lap | It was buggy |
| 10:45.45 | whizter | is there some addon that does the following? -> automatically buy a certain amount of runes etc. when speaking with the vendor. cryolosis has something like that built-in, but i don't need the whole cryolosis :) |
| 10:45.46 | nee|lap | OmniCC works well, use it. |
| 10:45.54 | nee|lap | whizter: FreeRefills |
| 10:45.58 | whizter | ah thx |
| 10:46.21 | whizter | Update complete! |
| 10:46.27 | whizter | i like this updater :) |
| 10:47.13 | nee|lap | :) |
| 10:47.57 | abbat_w | Ergh ;( |
| 10:48.01 | nee|lap | ergh? |
| 10:48.11 | abbat_w | OmniCC can't be updated with WAU :( |
| 10:48.22 | nee|lap | Indeed. But it's still good |
| 10:48.40 | odt | cooldown also does the same i think |
| 10:49.01 | odt | though lately i have started playing with no action bars at all |
| 10:49.11 | abbat_w | heh |
| 10:49.12 | odt | using just visual timers for spells |
| 10:49.17 | abbat_w | free refils nice mod |
| 10:49.31 | abbat_w | first time see it but liked ;) |
| 10:49.37 | nee|lap | :) |
| 10:49.55 | abbat_w | something else small and useful? :) |
| 10:50.50 | abbat_w | ah! |
| 10:51.04 | abbat_w | any mod witch can add description of items to tooltip? |
| 10:51.27 | abbat_w | for example, some mobs drop rep turn in items |
| 10:51.37 | nee|lap | Mendeleev |
| 10:52.04 | abbat_w | This mod have support of BC-items? |
| 10:52.18 | nee|lap | try it :) |
| 10:52.33 | abbat_w | kk ;) |
| 10:52.49 | nee|lap | Or perhaps the changelog has info |
| 10:54.46 | nee|lap | evl: Did you get Scavenger working yet? |
| 10:55.39 | snurre- | ding 68 |
| 10:55.40 | snurre- | wah, givf faster xp |
| 10:56.51 | abbat_w | snurre ;) |
| 10:56.56 | abbat_w | you need to sleep i think ;) |
| 10:57.15 | abbat_w | and to eat something expect hot dog-like food ;) |
| 10:57.22 | snurre- | why? :p |
| 10:57.25 | snurre- | i just slept anyway |
| 10:57.45 | abbat_w | why? because you took 68 ;) |
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| 10:57.56 | snurre- | crashed last night, after about 24h straight of lvling |
| 10:57.59 | abbat_w | this mean you have less time for sleep/eat/gf/etc ;) |
| 10:58.10 | snurre- | did 62 -> 67.9 in one setting |
| 10:58.19 | abbat_w | heh |
| 10:58.27 | abbat_w | <- 62.6 now ;) |
| 10:58.28 | snurre- | i had weekend, so im allowed to be a geek :p |
| 10:58.35 | abbat_w | plan to do 64 maybe tonight |
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| 10:58.48 | snurre- | had to work on tuesday/wednesday, so i lost out on alot of time there |
| 10:58.52 | snurre- | wouldve been 70 if it wasnt for that :/ |
| 10:59.38 | [Wobin] | bah |
| 10:59.43 | [Wobin] | What's the ip of wowace now? =) |
| 10:59.47 | [Wobin] | I can't wait for propgation =P |
| 11:00.01 | krynn- | anyone know anyway i can keep track of reagents in bartender3, currently it wont let me put them in my actionbar |
| 11:00.58 | OvrLrd-Q | 68!? |
| 11:02.11 | [Wobin] | crazy =P |
| 11:02.27 | [Wobin] | Once you hit 70, it'll be over =P |
| 11:03.29 | nee|lap | Are you skipping content? |
| 11:03.34 | nee|lap | Rushing through?# |
| 11:03.46 | OvrLrd-Q | probably |
| 11:04.17 | snurre- | nah |
| 11:04.21 | snurre- | questing |
| 11:04.36 | snurre- | earned 1411g from quest rewards |
| 11:04.39 | OvrLrd-Q | O_o |
| 11:05.09 | OvrLrd-Q | GD, wish I wouldn't of gotten rid of my 60 lol |
| 11:05.49 | nee|lap | Why did you get rid of him or her? |
| 11:05.52 | evl | nee|lap: yeah, i've updted it on the svn |
| 11:05.58 | evl | Withered Basidium |
| 11:05.58 | evl | Binds when picked up |
| 11:05.58 | evl | Unique |
| 11:05.58 | evl | This Item Begins a Quest |
| 11:05.58 | evl | Requires Level 60 |
| 11:05.59 | evl | "A piece of a withered boglord from the Dead Mire." |
| 11:06.01 | evl | oops :P |
| 11:06.03 | evl | http://code.google.com/p/evladdons/ |
| 11:06.16 | nee|lap | evl: okidoki |
| 11:06.31 | OvrLrd-Q | it was a paladin, got bored with it |
| 11:06.33 | nee|lap | evl: Not the zipfiles you hosted then? |
| 11:06.40 | nee|lap | ah |
| 11:06.41 | nee|lap | thanks |
| 11:06.56 | evl | nah |
| 11:06.58 | evl | i haven't updated them :P |
| 11:07.33 | nee|lap | I hope they'll appear on wowace.com/files someday though :) |
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| 11:09.09 | evl | probably :P |
| 11:09.11 | evl | but i'm insecure! |
| 11:09.12 | evl | ;) |
| 11:10.31 | abbat_w | can someone told me haste page with they addons? |
| 11:10.44 | abbat_w | everytime forget to put link in bookmarks |
| 11:10.49 | [Ammo] | fuxsake.net |
| 11:11.00 | abbat_w | Thanks Ammo |
| 11:12.10 | OvrLrd-Q | I love it when I alt+tab and all my icons get screwed up |
| 11:13.07 | OvrLrd-Q | was thinking a 30 minute rez sickness debuff was a bit extreme |
| 11:13.57 | nymbia | they used to go up to like an hour |
| 11:14.45 | OvrLrd-Q | O_o |
| 11:14.45 | sevencorvina | Burning Crusade: If you weren't 58 on the 16th, your friends will leave you behind. >.> Nini all. |
| 11:14.45 | nymbia | it was something like one minute per level with a minimum of 10 minutes |
| 11:15.55 | OvrLrd-Q | well, suppose it's good its not like EQ and L2 and lose XP :P |
| 11:18.33 | whizter | is there a way to display the mem usage of every single loaded addon? |
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| 11:19.19 | Funkeh` | moening |
| 11:19.28 | nee|lap | moaning |
| 11:20.32 | OvrLrd-Q | Warmup? |
| 11:21.24 | nee|lap | warmup does not show current usage, only initial usage I think |
| 11:21.39 | OvrLrd-Q | yea, but that's about as close as you're going to get afaik |
| 11:22.05 | Funkeh` | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/general-news/631/233-horde-banned/ |
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| 11:23.26 | [Wobin] | That was the proudmoore gank wasn't it? |
| 11:24.12 | abbat_w | whizter, you can take some information about addons by using tekSupport |
| 11:24.20 | abbat_w | tekSupport with FuBar |
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| 11:25.51 | Adirelle|work | if I has a priest/paladin, I would have tried to build a smartdebuff-like module for Grid... but I'm a hunter... |
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| 11:26.30 | abbat_w | i want to sound notification in Grid... |
| 11:26.47 | abbat_w | Like detox/decurse do it ;) |
| 11:29.03 | Funkeh` | code it |
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| 11:29.32 | abbat_w | i need to lvl up first ;) |
| 11:30.07 | abbat_w | now i play with just a few addons... |
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| 11:34.51 | abbat_w | Sairen |
| 11:34.57 | abbat_w | Are you site up btw? |
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| 11:42.20 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 11:42.30 | abbat_w | Mendeleev don't have module for Fubar ;( |
| 11:43.20 | [Wobin] | oh man |
| 11:43.27 | [Wobin] | BT3 crapped out on me =( |
| 11:47.20 | abbat_w | oh ;( |
| 11:47.27 | abbat_w | discord drama ;( |
| 11:48.13 | abbat_w | --- |
| 11:48.14 | abbat_w | If you're wondering about the stickies, I took them down cause I almost quit everything just now. But I think I still am resolved to finish the new set of mods. I just no longer have plans to buy the expansion. It won't be worth it playing alone again and I definitely don't want to hop servers again. |
| 11:48.17 | abbat_w | --- |
| 11:48.46 | weab | who cares |
| 11:48.49 | weab | discord sucks |
| 11:49.01 | abbat_w | no ;) |
| 11:49.20 | ckknight | yea I read that |
| 11:49.28 | ckknight | I was quite indifferent |
| 11:49.42 | ckknight | it's not that I felt joy, it's that I felt absolutely nothing at all |
| 11:49.53 | nymbia | lol |
| 11:51.10 | weab | your name bugs me. i always read it as NAMBLA |
| 11:51.34 | nymbia | whats a nambla |
| 11:51.38 | odt | says someone who's name is web |
| 11:52.29 | weab | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAMBLA |
| 11:52.50 | abbat_w | gay community? |
| 11:53.45 | weab | man/boy love association. an organization for old people molesting kids |
| 11:54.15 | ckknight | North-American Marlin Brando Lookalikes? |
| 11:54.29 | odt | you a member there? |
| 11:54.47 | abbat_w | disgustingly |
| 11:54.49 | abbat_w | odt ;))) |
| 11:55.13 | odt | or why would anyone know about them in the first place |
| 11:55.15 | odt | :) |
| 11:55.25 | weab | because i haven't lived in a fucking hole my entire life |
| 11:55.27 | abbat_w | heh |
| 11:55.37 | abbat_w | 5 pages about nambla at wiki ;) |
| 11:55.41 | abbat_w | insane |
| 11:55.50 | weab | because it's a well known organization |
| 11:55.56 | odt | dno, i don't live in north america at all, doesn't mean i live in a hole |
| 11:56.20 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 11:56.24 | ckknight | there was an entire South Park episode about it |
| 11:56.26 | [Wobin] | where can I get the interface kit? |
| 11:56.28 | weab | then why the fuck would you think you know what someone in north america should or shouldn't know about them |
| 11:56.41 | NightHawkTheSane | it's common knowledge (to north americans) that anything outside north america is a hole., :P |
| 11:56.45 | ckknight | ~framexml |
| 11:56.56 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 11:56.56 | odt | weab: please don't swear so much, makes you look stupid |
| 11:56.58 | ckknight | [Wobin]: ^--- |
| 11:57.05 | weab | i'll swear as i please, asshole. |
| 11:57.06 | [Wobin] | ta |
| 11:57.34 | ckknight | you both should cool it, but seriously, everyone knows about Nambla. |
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| 12:00.30 | abbat_w | heh |
| 12:00.35 | abbat_w | first time see this ;) |
| 12:00.36 | abbat_w | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=32841 |
| 12:00.46 | abbat_w | paladins looks like mass reanimators ;) |
| 12:01.18 | odt | is a priest spell? |
| 12:01.33 | odt | wonder if it does apply to raid aswell, or just party |
| 12:01.38 | abbat_w | ah. i read comments, was removed from game |
| 12:02.04 | nymbia | it might be an NPC ability.. |
| 12:02.22 | abbat_w | "it was a early testing feature only, which got removed. " |
| 12:02.32 | abbat_w | no, it was paladin spell |
| 12:02.40 | abbat_w | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?c=Paladin |
| 12:02.53 | krynn- | lol with that spell there would be no such thing as a "full wipe" |
| 12:02.54 | abbat_w | end of page |
| 12:02.57 | krynn- | just leave a paladin in the corner |
| 12:03.05 | nymbia | padadin res is not called "resurrection" |
| 12:03.30 | nymbia | if they were gonna make it a paladin ability, it'd be called redemption. |
| 12:03.49 | abbat_w | never play by priest/paladin |
| 12:04.04 | abbat_w | But this spell not bad but should priests spell |
| 12:04.21 | abbat_w | Paladin use DI on priest, all die. Priest use mass ressurect ;) |
| 12:06.02 | Adirelle|work | would be awful in PvP :s |
| 12:09.22 | snurre- | wtb wowhead.com online :( |
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| 12:09.58 | evl | yeah |
| 12:10.00 | evl | wtb wowhead :P |
| 12:10.03 | evl | thott + alla < wopwhead |
| 12:10.15 | snurre- | thott and alla are absolutely useless for TBC stuff |
| 12:11.05 | abbat_w | why? |
| 12:11.11 | abbat_w | www.thottbot.com/beta/ |
| 12:12.07 | snurre- | cause it has no info of value |
| 12:12.08 | snurre- | http://thottbot.com/beta?n=16221 |
| 12:12.11 | snurre- | for instance |
| 12:12.43 | snurre- | missing tons of quests etc |
| 12:17.41 | snurre- | has anyone hit 60 with belf pally yet btw? |
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| 12:20.52 | nee|lap | I doubt that would be possible |
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| 12:21.53 | snurre- | i think it is |
| 12:21.58 | snurre- | got a 49 in my guild so |
| 12:22.55 | snurre- | and he's only been soloing, not powerlvling with aoe and stuff |
| 12:23.12 | krynn- | all you gotta do is quest like a madman |
| 12:23.17 | krynn- | and skip all the instances |
| 12:23.25 | snurre- | lol, a guy in my guild has gotten over 2.5mill xp this session |
| 12:23.31 | krynn- | instances and grouping slows you down |
| 12:24.40 | abbat_w | eh, BC need to change binding keys ;( |
| 12:25.01 | abbat_w | now i use wsad for moving but have no free buttons for new spells |
| 12:25.20 | abbat_w | time to switch to edsf maybe |
| 12:25.37 | groll | bah i think my guildmate is lvl 70 now.. he's nuts :P |
| 12:25.45 | abbat_w | 70 lvl? |
| 12:25.51 | snurre- | got 3 69s in my group |
| 12:25.55 | groll | well not paladin :P |
| 12:25.59 | abbat_w | they need a week reabilitation in stationar i think ;) |
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| 12:26.04 | groll | started at 60 :P |
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| 12:30.39 | [Wobin] | you know |
| 12:30.52 | [Wobin] | the only reason anyone would powerlevel one of the new classes is to get a pally to endgame instances |
| 12:31.01 | [Wobin] | What's the point otherwise? =P |
| 12:31.25 | [Wobin] | If there were new classes I could see a good reason |
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| 12:34.31 | snurre- | wtf |
| 12:34.37 | snurre- | nerf the corpserun in blades edge |
| 12:36.30 | snurre- | geez, have to run through the entire zone.. with all the twists and turns that require :( |
| 12:36.42 | Saroz | which Buffalo should I get? |
| 12:37.12 | Mikma | [Wobin]: hi! |
| 12:37.17 | [Wobin] | yo |
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| 12:54.12 | Mikma | kuka streamaa? |
| 12:54.16 | Mikma | whops mt :) |
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| 12:58.17 | abbat_w | perkelle |
| 12:58.32 | abbat_w | Mikma, do you read last news from Lozareth? |
| 12:58.46 | Mikma | abbat_w: no, what's up |
| 12:58.51 | abbat_w | Mikma, they plan to quit wow and don't plan to play in expansion |
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| 12:59.31 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 12:59.32 | abbat_w | Lozareth and some ppl make guild fro TBC but they do gquit and abandon him |
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| 13:00.00 | Mikma | well, so? :D |
| 13:00.23 | abbat_w | So, he won't play alone and plan to quit. But maybe try to finish his mod. Anyway if he quit discord mods don't have any support ;( |
| 13:00.50 | abbat_w | And possible discord project died |
| 13:00.52 | Mikma | poor fanbois |
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| 13:02.05 | Adirelle|work | I tried DAB long ago, then I saw the code, never used it again since |
| 13:02.45 | abbat_w | I look sources too ;) |
| 13:03.40 | abbat_w | But anyway i use it long time. About 5-6 month. |
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| 13:07.02 | DarkImakuni | congrats Cairenn :D |
| 13:10.45 | Thrae | Well I fixed both my USB and NTLDR problems. For some reason, even the USB ports weren't being initialized properly due to my main HDD connected with a bad SATA cable. Probably didn't need to reinstall the OS. Eh, no important data lost, since it's just a 30GB Raptor for my OS. |
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| 13:18.09 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: why gz Cairenn|afk ? :) |
| 13:18.25 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 13:18.29 | DarkImakuni | check the homepage on wowinterface :P |
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| 13:18.52 | abbat_w | give us a link! |
| 13:18.56 | abbat_w | to hp |
| 13:19.43 | Mikma | Cairenn|afk: YAY! |
| 13:20.04 | DarkImakuni | abbat_w: http://www.wowinterface.com |
| 13:33.23 | odt | not me |
| 13:33.44 | odt | oh, was midway scrolling to bottom and answered to a question :( |
| 13:34.10 | DarkImakuni | lol :P |
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| 13:37.44 | kenlyric | poke |
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| 13:39.19 | DarkImakuni | hehe that tickles! |
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| 13:59.34 | The|Karn | join tkbot |
| 13:59.37 | The|Karn | oops |
| 14:00.04 | kenlyric | heh. how many people joined The|Karn? |
| 14:00.16 | The|Karn | lol none |
| 14:00.24 | The|Karn | i'm just writing an irc logging bot |
| 14:00.27 | The|Karn | to log to a database |
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| 14:06.41 | whizter | TheKarn, in which language did you write it? |
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| 14:08.45 | ravagernl | told you it mised dongleutils tekkub |
| 14:09.37 | whizter | does HonorFu calculate wrong honor? it shows 2300 for me today, but in the char screen it says ~1000 |
| 14:10.11 | ravagernl | :P |
| 14:10.53 | nee|lap | hmm |
| 14:11.28 | nee|lap | I wish Grid could show 3D portraits |
| 14:11.41 | Thrae | nee|lap: Haha |
| 14:11.47 | ravagernl | bad idea, it would refresh all the time |
| 14:12.04 | nee|lap | Well, perhaps in a separate square next to each, or at mouseover |
| 14:12.05 | nee|lap | hm |
| 14:12.07 | nee|lap | or something |
| 14:12.25 | nee|lap | I was considering removing ag_UF and using grid all the time, but I like the portraits |
| 14:12.42 | Thrae | nee|lap: If you mouseover, you can see the race & class in your tooltip |
| 14:12.47 | nee|lap | Oh, is there an addon which shows only the portraits of the party? I'd like to see the faces |
| 14:12.57 | nee|lap | Yes, but I like the look of the portraits |
| 14:13.04 | nee|lap | It adds some personality to the frames |
| 14:13.16 | abbat_w | you can make own aguf layout |
| 14:13.22 | abbat_w | it's not hard |
| 14:13.30 | Thrae | agUF can show portraits, and you can enable/disable them for each frame type. |
| 14:13.31 | nee|lap | okay, I can try that |
| 14:13.42 | abbat_w | yep |
| 14:13.44 | nee|lap | I know thrae, I have that now |
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| 14:13.51 | abbat_w | aguf can show portrais |
| 14:13.55 | nee|lap | But ag_UF and grid is a bit overkill to me |
| 14:14.02 | nee|lap | but I like the way grid works |
| 14:14.09 | abbat_w | also you can tweak style and get what you want (i hope) :) |
| 14:14.22 | nee|lap | I'll look at it soon then |
| 14:14.25 | abbat_w | Btw guys |
| 14:14.29 | ravagernl | abbat_w: did you make any layouts then? |
| 14:14.49 | abbat_w | Someone know how i can i turn off target and player highlight in agUF? |
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| 14:15.08 | abbat_w | I turn off this feature but sometimes it's turn on i think |
| 14:15.26 | abbat_w | For example if i have a curse, player frame have highlighting |
| 14:15.37 | ravagernl | update it, there was a bug |
| 14:15.44 | abbat_w | And sometimes my target highlight but i don't know why ;) |
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| 14:15.52 | abbat_w | ah, ok |
| 14:16.24 | abbat_w | So, i just need sound notification for Grid if someone has curse and all be done ;) |
| 14:17.08 | rskriver | anyone seen a questlevel addon? |
| 14:17.17 | abbat_w | questFu |
| 14:17.30 | rskriver | but I am not running FuBar or any other bar |
| 14:17.34 | abbat_w | but i don't try any other addon |
| 14:17.41 | abbat_w | ah, sorry then |
| 14:17.43 | rskriver | so was hoping I could just get it inside the normal quest list |
| 14:18.08 | abbat_w | also i use ct_mod (~ 6 month ago) and this mod have quest lvl mod |
| 14:18.09 | abbat_w | Don't sure how it's now |
| 14:18.17 | krynn- | Quest-I-on |
| 14:19.01 | rskriver | I threw CT out and using ACE2 stuff only |
| 14:19.42 | krynn- | ct sucks |
| 14:19.48 | krynn- | ace2 for life |
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| 14:20.16 | rskriver | but would really like a lightweight quest lvl thing :) |
| 14:21.22 | yacoob | *yawn* time to take a look at discord forums, see the monkeys dance. |
| 14:22.05 | whizter | i think fastquest is lightweight |
| 14:22.45 | nee|lap | get Levelator |
| 14:22.48 | whizter | is there something like ct_mailmod for ace2? |
| 14:22.56 | rskriver | yup |
| 14:22.57 | rskriver | gmail |
| 14:23.01 | rskriver | nice addon |
| 14:23.07 | whizter | can i open all mails with that? |
| 14:23.09 | rskriver | and I am not joking ... |
| 14:23.11 | rskriver | yes |
| 14:23.14 | whizter | ok thx :) |
| 14:23.16 | rskriver | and also selected |
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| 14:23.21 | rskriver | you can even return selected |
| 14:23.22 | Thrae | Postal is the new GMail |
| 14:23.26 | nee|lap | yup |
| 14:23.27 | rskriver | ohhh |
| 14:23.31 | mkzwo | the more important question is - does it mass mail? ;) |
| 14:23.34 | rskriver | postal has all the old functionality? |
| 14:23.37 | rskriver | yesyesyes |
| 14:23.41 | rskriver | it does massmail too |
| 14:23.46 | Peri | should just have a bot that says that when you do ?gmail |
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| 14:23.53 | Thrae | Postal doesn't do bulk mailing, use ExpressMail for that |
| 14:23.59 | Thrae | ~postal |
| 14:24.01 | purl | dont forget to order ibot's copy of postal from http://tuxgames.com |
| 14:24.03 | mkzwo | ah thx |
| 14:24.19 | Peri | lol |
| 14:24.19 | yacoob | ohboy, there's surely new wave of discord fanboys up... :) |
| 14:24.21 | rskriver | I will stick to gmail then |
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| 14:25.10 | Ordog | hi |
| 14:25.17 | yacoob | "Bartender3 works flawlessly, but its also a major pain in the ass to configure, as well as very limited." |
| 14:25.26 | yacoob | (from http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=1278 ) |
| 14:25.28 | Peri | O.o |
| 14:25.31 | nee|lap | lol |
| 14:25.42 | Peri | Bartender3 was dead simple to configure.... |
| 14:25.50 | Peri | hell... my WIFE figured it out |
| 14:25.51 | nee|lap | Yea, discord is easy.. most people just use what others have made, ofcourse that's easier than setting something up yourself :P |
| 14:26.04 | Ordog | for how much do imbued netherweave bags sell on your server? |
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| 14:27.59 | yacoob | just out of curiosity, what people are missing in bt3 or bongos? |
| 14:28.13 | yacoob | how insanely baroque configs they have? |
| 14:28.17 | Amadeo | yacoob: I'm missing when Bongos used to work |
| 14:28.42 | Thrae | The ability to change button configurations based on certain events, which DAB will undoubtably have! |
| 14:29.19 | yacoob | Thrae, from what I see, the enemy/friendly is nowhere to get |
| 14:29.41 | yacoob | other than that... |
| 14:30.02 | Thrae | yacoob: I don't think that was an English sentance. |
| 14:30.04 | Amadeo | I'm missing sticky frames in BT3 also :P |
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| 14:30.12 | yacoob | (no, I do not mean 'other than that, it's all configurable' but 'other than that, I fail to see a need for something that's not already there') |
| 14:30.31 | yacoob | Thrae, what I meant is, there's currently no barmod that switches buttons on friendliness of the target |
| 14:31.14 | Thrae | Well, that's because you can't do it in combat, and macros solve that problem anyway. |
| 14:31.23 | Thrae | Hence my sarcastic statement earlier. |
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| 14:32.14 | yacoob | how do macros solve that? |
| 14:32.45 | Ordog | damn disc |
| 14:32.56 | Ordog | did someone answer my question about imbued netherweave bags? :) |
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| 14:33.24 | Thrae | yacoob: /cast [harm] Foo; Bar <-- casts Foo if target is hostile, otherwise Bar |
| 14:33.36 | kenlyric | Ordog: I don't think anyone did. |
| 14:33.44 | kenlyric | I personally don't know |
| 14:34.37 | Ordog | hmk |
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| 14:35.21 | yacoob | Thrae, neat. With that I'll easily recreate my old bongos setup, when I return to the game :D |
| 14:35.52 | nee|lap | Ordog: 75G guild price on my server at the moment |
| 14:36.08 | Ordog | oh cool then im a rich guy in a few hours |
| 14:36.09 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 14:36.21 | kenlyric | guild price? |
| 14:36.29 | Ordog | hope its that expensive on my server too -.- |
| 14:36.38 | yacoob | *gasp* |
| 14:36.40 | yacoob | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=1271 |
| 14:36.51 | yacoob | people will make a guild for Loz I think! :D |
| 14:37.13 | Thrae | yacoob: You're not playing WoW anymore, or just not right now? |
| 14:37.22 | Amadeo | haha |
| 14:38.40 | yacoob | Thrae, not right now, since, hm, XI 2006. Lots of traveling, and lost interest, due to endgame. |
| 14:38.48 | Amadeo | What are people using for lightweight unit frames? |
| 14:39.11 | yacoob | Thrae, with new stuff out, I'll probably be back :) |
| 14:39.17 | rskriver | ag_Unitframe? |
| 14:39.22 | Amadeo | lightweight :P |
| 14:39.41 | abbat_w | aguf lightweight |
| 14:39.56 | Amadeo | So I guess nothing |
| 14:40.17 | abbat_w | hmm.. sorry then. don't see any more lightweight then aguf |
| 14:40.31 | abbat_w | i try duf, x-perl, nurfed, aguf ;) |
| 14:40.32 | kenlyric | you don't get much more lightweight than aguf. |
| 14:40.33 | yacoob | Amadeo, why aguf isn't good? |
| 14:40.34 | Amadeo | agUF isn't lightweight anymore |
| 14:40.41 | kenlyric | hell, you can make a text frames. |
| 14:40.53 | krynn- | buy more ram, problem solved |
| 14:40.54 | Amadeo | in fact, it probably lags me more than any other frame so far :/ |
| 14:41.04 | abbat_w | Hmm... |
| 14:41.10 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 14:41.16 | kenlyric | you've apparently never used DUF |
| 14:41.19 | yacoob | Amadeo, that's weird, tbh. But you can try classic perl if those are still being developed |
| 14:41.24 | abbat_w | I have 21mb initial memory with aguf & bartender and some other mods |
| 14:41.27 | abbat_w | Just 21mb! |
| 14:41.50 | krynn- | mine uses 23mb and im using prolly 40 mods |
| 14:41.53 | abbat_w | And memory increase rate no more then 0.3-0.5 kib then solo |
| 14:41.55 | krynn- | including bt3 and aguf |
| 14:42.01 | Amadeo | Well, maybe it was a bug from last time I used it |
| 14:42.03 | Amadeo | I'll try it again |
| 14:42.15 | Amadeo | I've been using Sage, but it spams errors and Tuller disappeared, so I'm switching |
| 14:42.20 | robotusch | I have 60+ mods, including some heavyweights, and my initial is 23 :/ |
| 14:42.26 | abbat_w | krynn-, i have about ~ 50 dirs in addons directory but half of my mods like fence or bankitems |
| 14:42.27 | kenlyric | my ram usage for mobs jump 10mb this week, but I think that had to do with some errors some mods were throwing. |
| 14:42.45 | krynn- | then again i also run 1600x1024 everything up @ ~100fps constant |
| 14:42.53 | krynn- | lag isnt really an issue of mine |
| 14:42.55 | yacoob | I'm feeling rebelious >:> |
| 14:43.06 | abbat_w | 1280 x 1024 for me |
| 14:43.16 | yacoob | Like posting to discord forums with analysis of Loz's behaviour 8) |
| 14:43.25 | abbat_w | no more then 75fps because i have lcd with 75 hz frame rate ;) |
| 14:43.37 | krynn- | i use a 21 crt |
| 14:43.40 | rskriver | my bug-mod is overflowing all the time |
| 14:43.43 | kenlyric | maybe he's not invited because he sucks? |
| 14:43.43 | Thrae | 1920x1240, no lag here. ~60-100 FPS. |
| 14:43.53 | krynn- | i get solid 100 in raids |
| 14:43.54 | krynn- | lol |
| 14:44.03 | krynn- | geforce8800 ftw |
| 14:44.09 | abbat_w | 6600gt for me ;) |
| 14:45.11 | nee|lap | 7800gs here |
| 14:45.29 | rskriver | still waiting for my new machine ... but then its 8800GTX |
| 14:45.35 | kenlyric | i'm using the 6600gt... or whichever one was the absolute cheapest that could do two DVI outs |
| 14:46.49 | krynn- | *shrug* im honestly amazed i get such decent frames |
| 14:46.58 | krynn- | im usually multi-tasking like a 2bit whore |
| 14:47.04 | kenlyric | me too. |
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| 14:47.23 | yacoob | hm |
| 14:47.33 | kenlyric | I need more ram in a bad way... trying to encode a DVD and rip a DVD and wow and browse and listen to itunes is really hard on 768MB |
| 14:47.36 | Amadeo | My framerate is horrible |
| 14:47.36 | krynn- | atm i have, wow, firefox, irc, gaim, vent, winamp, ultraedit, thunderbird, and 3 flashfxp's open |
| 14:47.37 | krynn- | lol |
| 14:47.39 | yacoob | how many hours (average) you spend in wow? |
| 14:47.44 | Amadeo | I get about 40 fps maximum, and usually around 20 fps |
| 14:47.47 | Amadeo | 6600GT |
| 14:48.02 | yacoob | I just saw http://www.xfire.com/profile/cyborman/ and '88 hours in last 7 days' made my head spin |
| 14:48.49 | kenlyric | I do usually six hours total while at work... maybe another 4-6 at home when it's a busy time like this. |
| 14:49.00 | kenlyric | but the six hours at work aren't really that productive, since I also have to work. |
| 14:49.05 | Amadeo | 6 hours at work? damn |
| 14:49.06 | Amadeo | haha |
| 14:49.12 | krynn- | ive accumulated 4days 18hours of playtime in the past 7 days |
| 14:49.53 | yacoob | O_o |
| 14:50.18 | krynn- | only reason i know is cause new account/char |
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| 14:50.42 | kenlyric | my last account had 160 days played on it, and I had it for 14 months. |
| 14:50.53 | kenlyric | but a whole lot of that was afk at work time. |
| 14:51.03 | krynn- | last mmo i played i played for 1.75 years and i had 442 days of playtime |
| 14:51.11 | yacoob | two things |
| 14:51.13 | Amadeo | EQ? |
| 14:51.13 | yacoob | 1/ I'm so softcore |
| 14:51.17 | krynn- | naw not eq |
| 14:51.22 | yacoob | 2/ playing at work is... well... strange. |
| 14:51.22 | Amadeo | DAoC? |
| 14:51.24 | krynn- | nope |
| 14:51.35 | Amadeo | wow, what MMOG could you play for that long then? everything else was horrible :P |
| 14:51.56 | kenlyric | CharacterInfoStorage.lua:333: attempt to concatenate local 'itemString' (a nil value) |
| 14:52.13 | kenlyric | does anyone remember what the heck I have characterinfosttorage mod for? |
| 14:52.13 | krynn- | Amadeo: personal prefferences |
| 14:52.21 | Amadeo | Well, which? |
| 14:52.23 | krynn- | ffxi |
| 14:52.39 | Amadeo | Yeah, I guess personal preference is right |
| 14:52.40 | kenlyric | yacoob: you need a better job, apparently :) |
| 14:52.51 | kenlyric | it's not like I have to play wow at work. I can play many other games too. |
| 14:52.55 | Amadeo | kenlyric: I want your job |
| 14:53.07 | yacoob | kenlyric, I'm fine with mine, thankyou. |
| 14:53.21 | yacoob | it's just like... I wouldn't be able to play at work. |
| 14:53.29 | yacoob | even if I had the technical possibility to do so. |
| 14:55.40 | yacoob | (and here comes this uncomfortable silence) |
| 15:00.30 | Amadeo | WAU is the fastest it's ever been! |
| 15:01.23 | yacoob | actually, I might need those arms. It's hard to type with nose. |
| 15:02.32 | Amadeo | How about toes? |
| 15:03.07 | Peri | toes aren't very dextrous |
| 15:03.21 | Peri | and many people don't generally have long enough toes to operate a keyboard |
| 15:03.46 | Amadeo | We could stretch them out some for you |
| 15:04.45 | Amadeo | You'd look like ET! |
| 15:06.48 | rskriver | well ... you can get a footmouse and foot-panel for buttons |
| 15:07.00 | rskriver | then at least you can play FPS |
| 15:07.05 | bver | is there a way in cartographer to only show minig nodes?, I have a ton of question marks from various quests items i clicked on |
| 15:07.38 | abbat_w | sure |
| 15:07.54 | abbat_w | you can turn off notes by mod on cartographer |
| 15:07.54 | nee|lap | disable the POI module and such |
| 15:08.11 | abbat_w | i mean profession, trainers, quests etc |
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| 15:08.45 | abbat_w | just press 'cartographer' button on map and using drop down menu select mod and uncheck 'enable' |
| 15:09.48 | jjb_ | is there a "ace'd" addon for sorting the minimapbuttons? |
| 15:09.59 | rskriver | I just got VERY annoyed with the fact that I couldnt get Gatherers data file into Cartographer |
| 15:09.59 | nee|lap | nope |
| 15:10.12 | nee|lap | rskriver: You can do that |
| 15:10.22 | rskriver | but havent been able to make it work :) |
| 15:10.42 | nee|lap | Be sure to install the latest official gatherer I think with Cartographer |
| 15:11.16 | abbat_w | and cartographer_import |
| 15:11.51 | Amadeo | I don't like how the exp bar isn't considered part of the targetable unit frame in agUF |
| 15:12.02 | Amadeo | so if you click the bar, you won't select the frame |
| 15:12.39 | rskriver | just cannot get the downloadable datafile for gatherbook into gatherer anymore |
| 15:13.11 | abbat_w | Pfff... Amadeo ;) |
| 15:13.21 | abbat_w | Setup Fubar and Fubar_XPFu |
| 15:13.35 | abbat_w | you get nice looking xp and(or) rep bar ;) |
| 15:14.15 | Amadeo | I have those, but to be honest, I kind of like my personal unit frame to look a bit different than the rest...kind of like "The master frame"! |
| 15:14.21 | Amadeo | so I like the bar there :) |
| 15:14.30 | abbat_w | =) |
| 15:14.59 | abbat_w | information should not be duplicated on you UI |
| 15:15.06 | bver | i did all those things you guys said and nothing |
| 15:15.07 | abbat_w | no two or more casting bars etc |
| 15:15.16 | abbat_w | it's just make you UI harder |
| 15:15.17 | bver | the question marks are still there :( |
| 15:15.44 | abbat_w | bver, what icons you want to remove from cartographer? |
| 15:16.06 | abbat_w | how this icons look? maybe we can define mod by icon ;) |
| 15:16.27 | Amadeo | I need to figure out how to get names to stop being cut off without making my frames huge |
| 15:16.49 | abbat_w | Change font? |
| 15:17.01 | Amadeo | I'm not sure why they're being cut short |
| 15:17.03 | nee|lap | Amadeo: Convince people to use shorter names and contact Blizzard to have mobs and npcs use shorter names as well |
| 15:17.12 | Amadeo | no, that's not it |
| 15:17.13 | abbat_w | =) |
| 15:17.19 | abbat_w | just use another font |
| 15:17.24 | Amadeo | there's plenty of room for it on the bar |
| 15:18.04 | nee|lap | hm |
| 15:18.04 | bver | tthey are just question marks |
| 15:18.08 | nee|lap | I notice that too |
| 15:18.10 | abbat_w | ok, i have an example ;) |
| 15:18.11 | abbat_w | http://cow.efnet.org/~abbat/WoWScrnShot_102206_032112.jpg |
| 15:18.14 | abbat_w | this one |
| 15:18.21 | abbat_w | http://cow.efnet.org/~abbat/WoWScrnShot_120706_185503.jpg |
| 15:18.22 | bver | like things i looted for quest items |
| 15:18.23 | abbat_w | this one |
| 15:18.27 | nee|lap | Kobold Tunne... with enough room for 'Tunneler' |
| 15:18.46 | bver | boxes etc |
| 15:19.27 | Amadeo | the first one is agUF? |
| 15:19.44 | abbat_w | no |
| 15:19.44 | Amadeo | wow, 41MiB |
| 15:19.51 | abbat_w | it's a DUF with custom font |
| 15:19.59 | Amadeo | oh ok |
| 15:20.39 | abbat_w | I also try to find font for long names |
| 15:20.49 | abbat_w | and this is better what i can found |
| 15:21.22 | Amadeo | now I'm taking a screenshot of all my button configurations so I can redo them on BT3 or something :P |
| 15:21.39 | abbat_w | ;)))))) |
| 15:21.44 | abbat_w | sure |
| 15:21.51 | abbat_w | 1-2 hours and you can redo ;) |
| 15:22.00 | yacoob | Hahaha :D |
| 15:22.03 | yacoob | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=1266 |
| 15:22.10 | yacoob | This forum is looking awfully like... |
| 15:22.16 | yacoob | 3D Realm's forum for Duke Nukem Forever. |
| 15:23.05 | abbat_w | yacoob, anyway i think dab is best action bar mod ;) |
| 15:23.19 | abbat_w | Don't know why but i like buttons which make DAB |
| 15:23.27 | yacoob | abbat_w, provided it works, probably most sophisticated |
| 15:23.38 | yacoob | "back then" DAB = flexbar + nice ui |
| 15:23.42 | abbat_w | It's just a standard buttons but bt3 for example can't do this ;) |
| 15:24.12 | abbat_w | I change some source code of bt3 and buttons in bt3 looks like buttons in dab, but... |
| 15:24.25 | abbat_w | I don't want to back dab ;) |
| 15:24.44 | abbat_w | But i don't want to make chanes in every new version of bt3 |
| 15:25.03 | abbat_w | Nev btw change src and new versions need more changes ;) |
| 15:26.32 | abbat_w | Most liked feature of DAB - it's ability to make bars with more then 10 buttons on bar |
| 15:27.29 | Amadeo | hm, I guess this means I need a new casting bar |
| 15:27.40 | abbat_w | heh |
| 15:27.42 | nee|lap | you mean more than 12 buttons |
| 15:27.42 | abbat_w | oCB |
| 15:27.54 | abbat_w | you don't find any better then ocb |
| 15:28.00 | abbat_w | nee|lap, yep, more then 12 |
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| 15:28.24 | nee|lap | :) |
| 15:28.28 | abbat_w | Amadeo: http://fuxsake.net/ |
| 15:28.30 | bver | i figured it out |
| 15:28.34 | abbat_w | here you can take oCB |
| 15:28.34 | bver | was POI |
| 15:28.45 | Amadeo | yeah I was just going there, hehe |
| 15:28.55 | bver | and i deleteed the portion in saved variables, and just gonna disable the module |
| 15:28.56 | abbat_w | trust me, it's better casting bar |
| 15:29.04 | abbat_w | and btw |
| 15:29.20 | abbat_w | oCB have textures like other aced mods |
| 15:29.27 | Amadeo | Oh I know, I've used these before, just not in a while |
| 15:29.29 | abbat_w | so you can select same style for all bars |
| 15:29.58 | abbat_w | for example, my obc, antagonist and chronometer have same style (charcoal) ;) |
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| 15:30.10 | abbat_w | also BigWigs |
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| 15:31.13 | abbat_w | and aced mods bars looks much much better then natur-style bars ;) |
| 15:31.25 | abbat_w | or vendetta-style |
| 15:33.27 | abbat_w | Amadeo, btw, take also oTweaks ;) |
| 15:33.34 | CIA-17 | ow |
| 15:33.41 | Xuerian | hmf. |
| 15:33.56 | Xuerian | purl, comfort CIA-17. |
| 15:33.59 | purl | There, there, CIA-17.. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 15:34.11 | abbat_w | So, my conñlusion is: haste don't make a shit ;) |
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| 15:38.44 | Adirelle|work | I'm wondering if I could make Cartographer_QuestGiver only remember people I have something to do with (i.e. active quest) |
| 15:39.58 | KarlThePagan | quixote doesn't even remember who gave what quests |
| 15:40.12 | KarlThePagan | (well it doesn't store any extra info) |
| 15:43.45 | Adirelle|work | gtg |
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| 15:48.48 | JoshBorke | Kaelten-Laptop: i can't seem to post to the google group =/ |
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| 15:50.53 | Antiarc_ | Good morning, folks. |
| 15:51.26 | JoshBorke | morning Antiarc |
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| 15:53.43 | Xuerian | Does calling :[Un]registerEvent taint the object in question? |
| 15:54.02 | Xuerian | And 'morning, Antiarc :P |
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| 16:00.30 | KarlThePagan | events shouldn't taint anything |
| 16:00.41 | Xuerian | Yeah, I figured it out, completely unrelated :p |
| 16:00.48 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 16:00.59 | Xuerian | Was having palpitations there for a minute <.< |
| 16:01.02 | KarlThePagan | i've got like 300 stacks of ore to sell wii |
| 16:01.19 | Xuerian | Holy hell o_0 |
| 16:01.30 | Antiarc_ | Wow. Rails 1.2 AND official Prototype documentation released today. |
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| 16:01.34 | Antiarc_ | I think I'm going to cry for joy. |
| 16:02.15 | KarlThePagan | i re-grinded mining just to have stuff to sell to the JCers |
| 16:02.41 | Antiarc_ | My main is currently engineering/enchanting. |
| 16:02.44 | Antiarc_ | So yeah. |
| 16:03.00 | Antiarc_ | I'm, uh, not levelling eng at the moment. |
| 16:03.08 | KarlThePagan | expensive |
| 16:03.09 | Antiarc_ | Not too thrilled at the prospect of 40g for a stack of fel iron. |
| 16:03.13 | Antiarc_ | Yes. Yes, it is. |
| 16:03.20 | KarlThePagan | i went back to herb to level alch |
| 16:03.20 | Antiarc_ | But it's also phenominally useful. |
| 16:03.30 | KarlThePagan | yea the new items are nice |
| 16:03.51 | Antiarc_ | I could conceivably drop eng - it's easy to relevel and just costs about 200g to go 0-300 |
| 16:04.08 | Antiarc_ | And I don't have any rare patterns, really. |
| 16:04.14 | Antiarc_ | Well, no super-rares. |
| 16:04.19 | Antiarc_ | Enchanting, though, I couldn't drop. |
| 16:04.29 | Antiarc_ | I've got everything except a few of the AQ formulae. |
| 16:04.38 | Antiarc_ | And it's expensive and slow as hell to level. |
| 16:04.38 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 16:05.28 | shieldb | Antiarc, you should try jewelcrafting if you want to have fun with something that's even slower then enchanting to level :P |
| 16:05.48 | Antiarc_ | The thing about enchanting is that it's so damned useful. |
| 16:06.32 | Antiarc_ | I used it to make my epic mount money by level 58; farmed SM, DE'd mats, and auctioned them. |
| 16:06.44 | Antiarc_ | I'm hoping for a repeat performance for my flying mount; I walked through the portal with 180g to my name. |
| 16:07.10 | shieldb | that's not so bad, especially with how much money you earn in outland |
| 16:07.36 | Antiarc_ | I'm up to 400, so yeah, it's not too bad. |
| 16:07.51 | Antiarc_ | But man, it's nice enchanting my gear as I pick it up. |
| 16:08.25 | shieldb | I'm not looking forward to making the adamantite and eternium rods, though |
| 16:08.43 | nee|lap | 1800 here :) |
| 16:10.16 | durcyn | i farmed something like 6k before release, spent 500 on runecloth for an elekk, and am back up to 6200 just from turning in quests and vendoring greys... they've really upped the cash flow |
| 16:13.16 | nee|lap | :) |
| 16:13.40 | nee|lap | I don't farm, it's boring :( |
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| 16:14.40 | Antiarc_ | Heh, I was at about 2k a month ago. |
| 16:14.59 | Antiarc_ | But then people stopped buying things on the AH with BC's release imminent, and my income dried up. |
| 16:15.21 | Antiarc_ | 30g in repair bills four times per week is a bitch. |
| 16:16.08 | nee|lap | I rarely raided |
| 16:16.15 | nee|lap | So I had no 30g repair bills |
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| 16:16.59 | nee|lap | Quick! He's here! Bombard him with the questions you saved up! |
| 16:17.06 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 16:17.10 | Antiarc_ | Are there any hunters in here intimately familiar with the class's mechanics, enough to provide me with the calculations to determine average sustained DPS in a PVE environment, discounting mana as a concern? |
| 16:17.42 | nee|lap | Aren't there threads on that on the hunter forums? |
| 16:17.56 | Antiarc_ | Probably, but I need a Real Person (TM), really. |
| 16:18.14 | Antiarc_ | I'm writing a mod that looks at your current stats and gear and determines the sustained DPS change resultant from switching to a different piece of armor, based on your current stats, given a standard damage cycke. |
| 16:18.17 | Antiarc_ | cycle* |
| 16:18.19 | nee|lap | ok |
| 16:18.39 | Antiarc_ | I've done the combat rogue version already, and will be doing mut/hemo calculations tonight; I can do those easily enough - I know rogue mechanics inside out and backwards. |
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| 16:19.02 | Dhraga | lo all |
| 16:19.07 | Xuerian | Oy. |
| 16:19.10 | Antiarc_ | I want to get hunters done, since they'd be relatively easy to do compared to other classes, but I just don't know the skills/talents/damage cycles for them at all. |
| 16:19.10 | nee|lap | That reminds me of DrDamage |
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| 16:19.55 | fatbrain | Where do I find oCB nowdays? |
| 16:20.19 | Dhraga | Can anyone see in this what addon is causing all my Blocked spamm in the Bugsack please.... http://pastey.net/5255 |
| 16:21.08 | nee|lap | I have similar errors, but Fubar is mentioned instead of Ace2 |
| 16:22.03 | durcyn | fatbrain: fuxsake.net |
| 16:22.15 | durcyn | fatbrain: see also CBRipoff on files.wowace.com |
| 16:22.24 | fatbrain | durcyn: thanks. |
| 16:23.58 | Dhraga | anyone.... ? <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()'. Is this Bartender thats causing it ? |
| 16:24.31 | Dhraga | I have run taintchecker and have nothing tainted |
| 16:25.08 | Antiarc_ | Does anyone have the screenshot I posted of my DPS calculator mod last night? This client wasn't logging. |
| 16:25.17 | Xuerian | ~logs |
| 16:25.18 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 16:25.30 | Antiarc_ | *loves all over Xuerian* |
| 16:26.18 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 16:26.21 | kenlyric | can gardengnome make outfits based on stats? |
| 16:26.57 | nee|lap | closetgnome and no, it can not |
| 16:27.09 | nee|lap | Not autimagically at least |
| 16:27.34 | Antiarc_ | Xuerian: Looks like the logs for the 19th aren't posted yet - I suspected I posted the URL a little after midnight. |
| 16:27.41 | Xuerian | hm |
| 16:27.59 | shieldb | Xuerian, got a feature request for xlootmonitor for you :P |
| 16:28.09 | Antiarc_ | Any chance I could have you grep your logs for dpscalc? |
| 16:28.28 | durcyn | Antiarc_: i've got about a week in my scrollback...what time zone? :o |
| 16:28.36 | Antiarc_ | MST |
| 16:28.37 | shieldb | any chance that we could get an option to include someone's winning roll and if they needed/greeded when they recieve an item? |
| 16:28.45 | Xuerian | Antiarc_: I was on till 2:40 and I don't see any links posted by you. Might've been disconnected at the wrong moment.. |
| 16:28.50 | Antiarc_ | Hmm. |
| 16:28.53 | Antiarc_ | It would have been probably midnight-1 AM MST. |
| 16:29.11 | Antiarc_ | I went to bed about 2:20 MST myself. |
| 16:29.12 | Xuerian | MST is what gmt offset? o.0 |
| 16:29.22 | Antiarc_ | Uhhhhh.... -7 or thereabouts. I think. |
| 16:29.33 | Antiarc_ | Yeah, -7 |
| 16:29.35 | Xuerian | Wasn't up that late, I'm -5 >.< |
| 16:29.43 | snurre- | wtb wowhead |
| 16:30.04 | Xuerian | shieldb: hm |
| 16:30.06 | durcyn | Antiarc_: http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8653/envdodgepd3.jpg |
| 16:30.07 | shieldb | I like using xlootmonitor to cut down on the spam in my chatframe, but I keep wanting to see if someone hit need or greed on a particular item and what their roll was when they won |
| 16:30.15 | Antiarc_ | durcyn: Close, but not the one I did :) |
| 16:30.17 | durcyn | hrm. |
| 16:30.21 | Antiarc_ | Though I'm still grr at that bug. |
| 16:30.27 | Xuerian | shieldb: Yeah, I do need to get rolls in there. |
| 16:30.30 | Antiarc_ | I paid 41 points for that to not happen, dammit. |
| 16:30.33 | shieldb | but in order to see the rolls as is, I have to turn the looting messages back on, which kinda defeats the purpose :) |
| 16:31.10 | evl | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200701/pup2/addedsql.jpg |
| 16:31.14 | evl | now that's a winner |
| 16:31.19 | Antiarc_ | shieldb: I've wanted a similar feature |
| 16:31.27 | Antiarc_ | I don't care about all the rolls - just the winning roll and my roll. |
| 16:31.34 | shieldb | yeah exactly |
| 16:31.55 | shieldb | just so I can harass people as to if "hey don't hit need on that stuff please" or somesuch |
| 16:31.56 | Xuerian | shieldb: Kindof neglected them, haven't I? =P. I would like to inject them into the tooltip as they occur, but posting the winner would work. Not quite sure how to go about it though. I've been working on monitor all last night, so that's sitting right in the scope of what I'm doing. |
| 16:32.36 | RaydenUni | so i installed GWF_Levelator, but it doesn't appear to do anything |
| 16:32.39 | shieldb | maybe just including (N77) or (G82) with the message that kicks up? |
| 16:32.55 | shieldb | i.e. N for Need, G for greed, then the roll that they won with? |
| 16:32.57 | Antiarc_ | Xuerian: An option to add "Winning roll: JoeBlow (84); Your roll: 54" next to the option would rock. |
| 16:33.09 | durcyn | Antiarc_: i don't see much else in the way of URI around that time |
| 16:33.22 | Antiarc_ | Or yeah, "Winner: JoeBloe (N 86); Your roll: N 54" |
| 16:33.42 | Antiarc_ | Or maybe use the dice and coin icons rather than N/G if you want to get really fancy. |
| 16:33.45 | Antiarc_ | durcyn: Hm, thanks. |
| 16:34.06 | nee|lap | How about the coin icon for greed, the dice for need, like the blizzard UI uses# |
| 16:34.15 | shieldb | I'm thinking that wouldn't make the message too huge if it was like Someguy (N33|N32) [Magic Item of Power] |
| 16:34.24 | Xuerian | The problem I was coming to in my head was not so much to display it, as to catch it. But yea, I've been going over that too. |
| 16:34.28 | shieldb | where in that case you would have lost the item roll with a 32 |
| 16:35.19 | Xuerian | Cart before the horses, I'll figure it out :P |
| 16:36.11 | durcyn | ELF/ElfReloaded try to capture rolls, it seems to only work if you've got detailed loot information turned on |
| 16:36.23 | durcyn | which means it's wasting time parsing chat |
| 16:37.36 | Xuerian | Regardless, this is going to mean more parsing chat. But the upside to this, is I need to write SEE-Loot anyway |
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| 16:39.52 | Antiarc_ | ~seen Antiarc|Home |
| 16:40.26 | purl | antiarc|home <n=Chris@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13h 32m 54s ago, saying: 'It's modular so a healer can do their own healing module :P'. |
| 16:40.49 | Antiarc_ | 13h ago? That doesn't seem right. |
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| 16:42.23 | nee|lap | Hm. For some reason icons in my interface are messed up in the sense of showing either a different, but complete, texture (not garbled, no gfx-card problem) for some reason? buffs/debuffs and loot-windows are affected |
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| 16:43.49 | nee|lap | Has anyone else experienced this? Sometimes the icons are just black |
| 16:44.24 | Espa | i have nee|lap |
| 16:45.01 | Espa | not that i know how to fix it or anything but |
| 16:45.02 | nee|lap | Ah, have you fixed it? |
| 16:45.04 | nee|lap | Ok |
| 16:45.11 | nee|lap | At least I'm not alone :) |
| 16:45.12 | Espa | heh sry |
| 16:45.16 | Espa | yup =P |
| 16:45.19 | nee|lap | No worries, thanks or replying :) |
| 16:45.47 | Thorgard | Xuerian! |
| 16:45.58 | Xuerian | Thorgard: Gahwha? |
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| 16:46.26 | Thorgard | Xuerian, any chance of getting the 'sell values' for items (pulled from some other mod that keeps track of it all or somesuch) to shoe directly in the loot window? ;P |
| 16:46.54 | Antiarc_ | Thorgard: Wouldn't a sellvalue mod add that to the tooltip when you mouse over an item? |
| 16:47.04 | Xuerian | Thorgard: It's completely possible. |
| 16:47.26 | Thorgard | Antiarc_, it does, but then I'd have to mouse over every item. ;P Having it in the loot window would be nice. |
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| 16:49.41 | shieldb | nee|lap, that particular issue you're getting is what the ui accel feature got added in with 2.0.5 |
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| 16:50.00 | nee|lap | shieldb: Are you sure? |
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| 16:50.24 | shieldb | pretty sure - couple people in my guild were getting it and that took care of it for them |
| 16:50.24 | nee|lap | shieldb: Because the icons are not garbled. They just show a black texture or the texture of a different item/spell/etc |
| 16:50.42 | shieldb | worth a try, anwyays |
| 16:50.48 | Xuerian | Thorgard: What information addon are you using, and is there a method I can use to get the value for a link? |
| 16:50.49 | nee|lap | oki |
| 16:51.02 | durcyn | i ended up having to nuke my wdb to fix garbled spell textures |
| 16:51.05 | nee|lap | I'll try it. I hadn't yet because I thought it would not be that |
| 16:52.00 | cncfanatics | anyone else not able to login in EU ? |
| 16:52.06 | cncfanatics | g'morning all btw |
| 16:52.32 | nee|lap | good morning |
| 16:52.33 | Thorgard | Xuerian, Ludwig_SellValue, and not sure. |
| 16:52.43 | nee|lap | I am in EU without problems, but then again, I have not logged out in hours |
| 16:52.47 | nee|lap | Oh wait |
| 16:52.49 | nee|lap | I have |
| 16:52.52 | nee|lap | I switched accounts |
| 16:52.54 | nee|lap | No problem here |
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| 16:54.48 | durcyn | Xuerian: see also ColaLight... and Manufac if you're looking for a way to hook it |
| 16:55.15 | Xuerian | durcyn: Alright |
| 16:55.29 | cncfanatics | I'm stuck at authenticating nee|lap |
| 16:56.08 | Srosh | me too... |
| 16:56.48 | nee|lap | I won't logout yet then |
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| 16:58.24 | nee|lap | yup, stuck there too now |
| 16:59.24 | Srosh | didn't you want to stay ingame? |
| 17:00.42 | nee|lap | Well, I had to switch accounts anyway |
| 17:00.52 | nee|lap | And I'll be having dinner soon anyway |
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| 17:01.26 | nee|lap | Official site seems to be unavailable too |
| 17:01.36 | nee|lap | Ah now, it's just horribly slow |
| 17:01.54 | Srosh | well, that's always the best indicator to see if you're the only one with a problem *g* |
| 17:02.06 | nee|lap | :) |
| 17:02.22 | Srosh | I don't know, but it seems like Blizz Europe didn't upgrade the page servers at all in the recent years |
| 17:02.38 | Vegeta]BT[ | Is GMail no longer an Ace Addon, or why is it not displayed within the "Installed Addons" List in my WinAceUpdater ? |
| 17:02.55 | Srosh | GMails is dead, long live Postal! |
| 17:02.58 | Srosh | -s |
| 17:03.12 | Vegeta]BT[ | thx good to know :) |
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| 17:05.58 | thalie | postal postal postal |
| 17:06.26 | Xuerian | Was I suppose to think of that as a rally cry, or a conga line chorus? |
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| 17:07.30 | Dhraga | have anyone have thiese blocked msg's, and found out what it was ? http://pastey.net/5255 |
| 17:07.56 | Xuerian | Dhraga: For the hell of it, disable all of XLoot and see if they go away |
| 17:08.11 | Dhraga | Xuerian... lol okies |
| 17:08.44 | Xuerian | If it does, I should win the "Most insidious tainting bug" for the second time in a row >..> |
| 17:08.54 | Koaschten | yay auth-servers down -.- |
| 17:09.10 | Silviu- | Dhraga i get them a lot too |
| 17:09.17 | Silviu- | But i guess is sumth from ag_uf |
| 17:09.24 | Dhraga | I have run the taint checker and have no taints |
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| 17:09.30 | Dhraga | ah |
| 17:09.37 | Xuerian | Dhraga: But yet, it's happening :p |
| 17:09.57 | Silviu- | nd sometimes i get sumth with auf_party etc |
| 17:10.03 | Silviu- | So that is for sure from aguf |
| 17:10.09 | Dhraga | aye... have disabled XLoot, and doing a reload now |
| 17:10.47 | Dhraga | Silviu, ok will try aguf next =/ |
| 17:12.52 | Hjalte | Is there anyone in here that i can report errors with Banzailib to? |
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| 17:12.53 | fatbrain_ | eu login-server is brokens |
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| 17:14.57 | Cairenn|afk | thanks guys :) |
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| 17:16.31 | cncfanatics | indeed fatbrain_ |
| 17:16.55 | Koaschten | fckng weekend |
| 17:16.59 | Feldia | is there a simple way for me to createa map note in cartographer? |
| 17:17.01 | Xuerian | Cairenn|afk: o.0 |
| 17:17.04 | Koaschten | someone seend those people back to work |
| 17:17.07 | Antiarc_ | If we have any theorycrafters, please take a look at http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?pid=279793#p279793 and contribute where possible if inspired to do so, please. :D |
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| 17:18.22 | mjc | moo |
| 17:18.30 | fatbrain_ | iiiihk!! |
| 17:18.46 | Xuerian | Muuuuuurrrrrr. |
| 17:18.54 | fatbrain_ | *roooawwwr* |
| 17:19.22 | yacoob | omg bear! |
| 17:19.33 | Koaschten | Antiarc_ that looks like a helluva work :/ |
| 17:20.13 | cncfanatics | ~seen pastamancer |
| 17:20.22 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 343 messages. Is idling for 8h 21m 46s, last said: 'Kaelten-Laptop: then man update-rc.d'. |
| 17:23.52 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, ping :p |
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| 17:24.48 | trh | kergoth: there? |
| 17:25.37 | CIA-17 | ow |
| 17:25.52 | Xuerian | I tried kicking it earlier, it didn't do any good =( |
| 17:26.07 | yacoob | roundhouse kick perhaps? |
| 17:26.41 | Xuerian | I must've missed >.> |
| 17:26.44 | yacoob | FATALITY! |
| 17:26.55 | yacoob | Xuerian, no, its skull just cracked :) |
| 17:26.58 | yacoob | insta-death |
| 17:27.10 | Xuerian | Wait no! I wanted it to display our commit messages, not die! |
| 17:27.12 | Xuerian | WHAT HAVE I DONE?! |
| 17:27.20 | Antiarc_ | Koaschten: It's not that bad, really. |
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| 17:27.33 | Antiarc_ | The rogue stuff is actually really simple, for the most part. |
| 17:27.44 | Antiarc_ | Energy gen is going to be a minor bump, but it will be minor at best. |
| 17:27.52 | Dhraga | Xuerian, the problems persists |
| 17:28.08 | Xuerian | Dhraga: I'm sorry, but please excuse me while I do a little dance. |
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| 17:28.25 | Antiarc_ | I should be able to get (SS + Evis damage) * (1 + percentage energy regen per Evis cycle) to get the energy gain boost. |
| 17:28.58 | Xuerian | Dhraga: Seriously though, I wish I had a idea what was causing those taints - I get them occasionally too. Just rarely though. |
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| 17:31.37 | fatbrain | bah, someone took the eu login-server offline |
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| 17:32.12 | yacoob | someone? |
| 17:32.14 | yacoob | terrorists! |
| 17:33.12 | Dhraga | I'll try disabling agUf after dinner |
| 17:33.26 | Dhraga | DInner time, laters guys 'n gals |
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| 17:33.40 | steev64 | i've a question about buggrabber/bugsack if someone is around who can field it |
| 17:34.40 | steev64 | occasionally, (usually I am in combat) - i start getting messages in the chatbox that buggrabber is capturing more than 10 errors per second and is disabling itself, however, bugsack's numbers in the FuBar sit at 4/4 |
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| 17:34.47 | nee|lap | woo, server is back |
| 17:35.17 | nee|lap | steev64: But if you look at the errors, some erros might have ocurred multiple times |
| 17:37.05 | pastamancer | ~seen Kaelten |
| 17:37.21 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 7m 47s ago, saying: 'my fiance has let me borrow hers because I use it more, but I'm going to need to buy a new one :('. |
| 17:38.50 | trh | ~seen kergoth |
| 17:38.54 | purl | kergoth is currently on #wowi-lounge (6d 9h 42m 4s) #oe (6d 9h 42m 4s) #wowace (6d 9h 42m 4s) #elinux (6d 9h 42m 4s). Has said a total of 422 messages. Is idling for 7h 8m 42s, last said: 'damn, xpbarnone is nice'. |
| 17:41.41 | Xuerian | Know what's a blast? Setting a frame's OnUpdate to move it with the mouse, then trying to move the mouse over a button on another part of that frame |
| 17:42.07 | Thorgard | Xuerian, sounds like a hoot and a holler. ;P |
| 17:42.17 | groll | anyone able to tell me how nraidtracker works? or rather how i see the stats :P |
| 17:42.27 | nee|lap | Is anyone here using Grid as their normal unit frame? |
| 17:43.04 | nee|lap | hm. Grid doesn's |
| 17:43.17 | nee|lap | *Grid doesn't have a target frame :| |
| 17:43.35 | groll | well grid is mainly a healers tool |
| 17:43.45 | nee|lap | ok |
| 17:43.53 | nee|lap | hm |
| 17:43.56 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i couldn't stand grid a sole unit frame, or even raid frame |
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| 17:44.20 | thalie | i love grid |
| 17:44.20 | nee|lap | I could, I've grown quite attached to it |
| 17:44.38 | nee|lap | I'm thinking of putting my group frames in a row, horizontally |
| 17:44.47 | thalie | i use agUF for playerframe and targetframe, but other than that ... all grid, baby |
| 17:45.06 | nee|lap | ditto |
| 17:45.06 | groll | ditto |
| 17:45.09 | nee|lap | and for focus |
| 17:45.13 | nee|lap | and target of target |
| 17:45.24 | kenlyric | wtb target of pet. |
| 17:45.42 | thalie | ~thalie |
| 17:45.44 | purl | ACTION becomes the spirit of redemption. |
| 17:45.52 | steev64 | nee|lap: wouldn't the second number be going up ? instead of 4/4 - it would be (as I have seen on occasion, 4/1567 ) |
| 17:46.19 | nee|lap | steev64: Hm. Now you're making me doubt what I said. Perhaps yea |
| 17:46.34 | nee|lap | Ah, I have a protected function error again |
| 17:46.39 | nee|lap | weird |
| 17:46.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Does anyone know if postal has functionality to loot mail easily yet? |
| 17:48.02 | Fisker- | can you make a macro that puts repentance on a target and instantly judges it as well? |
| 17:48.18 | Barbanus | ~seen ckknight |
| 17:48.25 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (13h 22m 44s) #norganna (13h 22m 44s) #wowace (13h 22m 44s). Has said a total of 56 messages. Is idling for 5h 50m 51s, last said: 'you both should cool it, but seriously, everyone knows about Nambla.'. |
| 17:48.25 | shieldb | NightHawkTheSane, I'm not sure that postal is actually having trouble looting mail - I got frustrated by that the other day and disabled all my mail mods, and it was problematic opening mail by hand with nothing special running |
| 17:48.50 | NightHawkTheSane | shieldb: that wasn't what i asked, though. :) |
| 17:49.02 | shieldb | It's got an "open all" button if that's what you mean |
| 17:49.11 | shieldb | perhaps I'm misinterpreting what you mean by looting mail |
| 17:49.19 | nee|lap | NightHawkTheSane: shift-left-click, is that easy enough? |
| 17:49.21 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, something like open all or right-clik to loot |
| 17:49.27 | NightHawkTheSane | nee|lap: perfect, thank you :) |
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| 17:49.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i may switch to postal, just for that functionality |
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| 17:50.29 | groll | NightHawkTheSane alt click the item u want to send.. woila sent |
| 17:51.16 | groll | oh loot is shift click :D |
| 17:51.30 | nee|lap | :) |
| 17:52.25 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
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| 17:56.30 | SkorcherX | what is a ace2 addon that replaces bankitems? |
| 17:56.38 | nee|lap | What is Bankitems? |
| 17:56.41 | SkorcherX | just chek bankitems without being at a bank? |
| 17:56.49 | nee|lap | Get CharacterProfiler thne |
| 17:56.51 | durcyn | onebag/onebank/oneview |
| 17:57.05 | kenlyric | sanity2 |
| 17:57.07 | SkorcherX | yeah but i dont like having al my stuff in one bag |
| 17:57.10 | SkorcherX | sanity2? |
| 17:57.55 | SkorcherX | will recall my bank items in the middles of now where? thats all i need it to do.. dont need onebank or onebag, or any other sorting device |
| 17:58.28 | _neuron_ | hm /me has a frame with a button in it, OnMouseDown works on the button until I add it in the frame, then the frame is the only one that triggers, what am I doing wrong here? |
| 17:58.35 | nee|lap | sanity2 changes the layout too, but allows easy searching |
| 17:58.38 | SkorcherX | also need a altselfcast addon |
| 17:58.47 | SkorcherX | i dont see the option in the interface any more??? |
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| 17:58.59 | pastamancer | I really like sanity |
| 17:59.06 | SkorcherX | ok i will give it a shot |
| 17:59.14 | Xuerian | _neuron_: Use the onclick events for the button, or change the layer of the button to be higher than that of the frame |
| 17:59.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, sanity + baggins has been really nice for me |
| 17:59.26 | Xuerian | s/layer/level/ |
| 17:59.32 | pastamancer | for trying to remember "where the hell did I put all that copper ore", it is great |
| 17:59.37 | Ordog | wowhead down? |
| 17:59.52 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: or, for even remotely managing a guild bank, and your own bank alt, and your own bank. >< |
| 17:59.53 | SkorcherX | so what about altselfcast? |
| 17:59.53 | _neuron_ | Xuerian, isn't framelevel set autom..... I'm using CreateFrames for a batch of buttons |
| 17:59.57 | _neuron_ | Xuerian, thanks :) |
| 18:00.06 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: indeed |
| 18:00.31 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: sanity the addon is better than the real thing :p |
| 18:00.45 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed! :) |
| 18:00.58 | Xuerian | _neuron_: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Button_RegisterForClicks |
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| 18:12.09 | steev64 | well, so much for being able to login without the expansion installed |
| 18:13.09 | kergoth | hmm, does sanity track whats floating around in mailboxes too, or just bags/bank? |
| 18:13.33 | thalie | aw, i was going to try that tonight ... can't you login on a BC-enabled account using a computer that doesn't have BC installed? |
| 18:13.35 | KarlThePagan | yea i think so kergoth |
| 18:13.41 | kenlyric | kergoth, yes, it does mailboxes too. |
| 18:13.44 | steev64 | thalie: correct |
| 18:13.47 | KarlThePagan | it doesn't track mail to alts does it? |
| 18:13.49 | kergoth | hmm, thats pretty damn sweet then |
| 18:13.50 | KarlThePagan | sanity 1 didn't |
| 18:14.02 | kenlyric | it doesn't track if you send mail to an alt, but does track the mail when it sees it in the boxes. |
| 18:14.02 | steev64 | im at work and i didn't install it here |
| 18:14.08 | kergoth | i often keep specific items permanently in mailboxes or in transit between mailboxes |
| 18:14.09 | KarlThePagan | that would rule my world if it did |
| 18:14.13 | thalie | steev64: that is lame, my 2nd machine is now in need of upgrades |
| 18:14.24 | thalie | no disk space for tbc :( |
| 18:14.36 | KarlThePagan | well i have hundreds of items i bounce to an alt that i never log on |
| 18:14.37 | steev64 | thalie: better start clearing off the porn |
| 18:14.42 | KarlThePagan | the items just bounce back in 30 days |
| 18:15.03 | thalie | steev64: i wish. just a small hard drive, old machine that i let my kids play with. |
| 18:15.45 | durcyn | you let your kids play with porn? egads. |
| 18:15.50 | thalie | hah |
| 18:16.27 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:16.29 | Amadeo | sup ck |
| 18:16.32 | thalie | morning ck |
| 18:16.42 | ckknight | so I have an idea |
| 18:16.47 | ckknight | tell me if I'm crazy |
| 18:16.47 | thalie | oh noes! |
| 18:17.01 | ckknight | situational profiles. |
| 18:17.29 | ckknight | if you enable your battleground situational profile, whenever you enter a BG, it'll switch to it |
| 18:17.31 | ckknight | for example |
| 18:17.39 | Amadeo | I'm too old fashioned for anything dynamic, but it sounds like it could work |
| 18:17.43 | ckknight | or raid |
| 18:17.45 | ckknight | or solo |
| 18:17.50 | ckknight | just an idea |
| 18:17.58 | kergoth | it sounds like something that should be a standalone addon |
| 18:17.58 | durcyn | isn't that basically what ora/bw are doing now? |
| 18:18.02 | kergoth | but which might be useful |
| 18:18.05 | durcyn | or, hey, S&D |
| 18:18.10 | ckknight | durcyn: wouldn't know, I don't use em |
| 18:18.12 | Amadeo | I think Tuller was toying with a dynamic profile system for Bongos |
| 18:18.34 | durcyn | ckknight: the modules stay unloaded unless you're in a raid |
| 18:18.40 | ckknight | kergoth: but wouldn't it be cool to have it in AceDB, so people can set it on whatever addons they want? |
| 18:18.47 | Amadeo | Speaking of bar addons...I'm using BT3 now, and I want to disable Paging on Bar1, but still have Stance paging work...is this possible? |
| 18:19.05 | ckknight | durcyn: that's slightly different... |
| 18:19.09 | durcyn | and you're basically describing SupplyAndDemand, minus the unloading part |
| 18:19.17 | ckknight | I'm not |
| 18:19.19 | kergoth | ckknight, but they still could... a seperate addon could act on the events, and what the events are could be modular, and then call setprofile on the addons you configured it to manage |
| 18:19.21 | durcyn | no? |
| 18:19.22 | ckknight | it's not about loading/unloading |
| 18:19.26 | ckknight | it's about changing profiles. |
| 18:19.36 | durcyn | hrm. interestink. |
| 18:19.39 | kergoth | durcyn, s&d is about loading addons based on conditions, ck wants to switch addon configurations based on conditions |
| 18:20.16 | ckknight | kergoth: I dunno, I figured it'd be something that could go into AceDB and let the user configure within the profile dropdown |
| 18:20.22 | durcyn | i gotcha. kind of like how rdx's raid unit frames change on presets, and the new aguf presets.. except globally and automatically, eh? |
| 18:20.34 | kergoth | it just sounds like something that most users wont use, and which will just bloat acedb. |
| 18:20.41 | kergoth | useful, yes, but not in the common case |
| 18:20.48 | kergoth | /shrug |
| 18:21.15 | mjc | me stabs |
| 18:21.22 | pastamancer | sounds like what the closetgnome modules do |
| 18:21.27 | pastamancer | almost |
| 18:21.45 | Amadeo | Do you guys use Chronometer? |
| 18:21.53 | durcyn | Amadeo: Yep. |
| 18:21.59 | yacoob | We did! |
| 18:22.01 | thalie | you bet |
| 18:22.02 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:22.05 | yacoob | (we, yacoob) |
| 18:22.06 | ckknight | well, basically, what if I want to change my Bartender3 layout when I go into a BG? I have to change it manually now |
| 18:22.11 | vhaarr | ckknight: Sounds like something you could put in a 3rd party addon. |
| 18:22.13 | Amadeo | hm, I should probably do it |
| 18:22.26 | thalie | bartender3_zone |
| 18:22.27 | vhaarr | Not worthy of AceDB imo |
| 18:22.28 | thalie | ? |
| 18:22.42 | kergoth | it wouldnt be hard to implement in a seperate addon... and this is an example of why people are going to dongle |
| 18:22.45 | kergoth | feature creep |
| 18:22.53 | Amadeo | Do people use Chronometer with Antagonist, or does one cover the others functions? |
| 18:23.04 | thalie | amadeo: both |
| 18:23.04 | kergoth | Amadeo, yep, used with ant. chronometer times your abilities, ant theirs |
| 18:23.11 | Amadeo | I see! |
| 18:23.25 | groll | well i cant totally agree on that one.. they overlap and they at the same time dont |
| 18:23.26 | snurre- | hm |
| 18:23.27 | pastamancer | kergoth: out of curiosity, who's using dongle, other than clad? |
| 18:23.30 | Amadeo | Now I have to figure out where to put all the bars |
| 18:23.30 | snurre- | only 708k xp left |
| 18:23.30 | durcyn | except for the parts where antagonist bugs out on mob spells it doesn't recognize :o |
| 18:23.35 | groll | atleast from my experience |
| 18:23.37 | durcyn | pastamancer: tekkub |
| 18:23.41 | pastamancer | ah |
| 18:23.42 | kergoth | pastamancer, i know tem and tek are |
| 18:23.46 | kenlyric | durcyn, that's what witchhunt is for. |
| 18:23.52 | kergoth | tem used it in his overlord addon manager thingy |
| 18:23.53 | yacoob | Amadeo, good thing would be above/below respecitve unitframe |
| 18:23.53 | Tekkub | oro? |
| 18:24.04 | kergoth | speaking of which, overlord kicks ass |
| 18:24.05 | Tekkub | yarr |
| 18:24.09 | durcyn | kenlyric: am using wh too, actually, but ant shows me cooldowns for things |
| 18:24.10 | kergoth | i look forward to it being finished and released |
| 18:24.21 | Amadeo | yacoob: Yeah, I can try that |
| 18:24.24 | Tekkub | didn't tem name it OVERLORD? |
| 18:24.31 | Tekkub | I know he wanted to go all caps |
| 18:24.36 | kenlyric | just saying it's a good thing to have when ant bugs out on stuff. |
| 18:24.37 | ckknight | I just proposed an idea, and you shoot me down by threatening me that people will go to dongle because of it |
| 18:24.50 | kergoth | no, i said this was an example of why they're leaving |
| 18:24.58 | kergoth | if you misread that as a threat, thats your problem |
| 18:25.26 | kergoth | and i didnt shoot down the idea, i suggested that itd be better suited to a seperate addon rather than an acedb feature |
| 18:26.43 | kergoth | its a fact that people are going to dongle because ace2 keeps growing, getting feature after feature which arent used in the common case. if you can't accept that truth, that too is your problem |
| 18:27.06 | kenlyric | I've never gone to dongle. |
| 18:27.12 | Tekkub | kergy's a smart one |
| 18:27.12 | kenlyric | those pictures were fabricated |
| 18:27.18 | kergoth | lol |
| 18:27.22 | KarlThePagan | there is however some disparity in this minimalism thing |
| 18:27.34 | kergoth | and now, i go to get something caffinated. yes, i didnt flame or yell when i have no caffeine in my bloodstream. BE AFRAID! |
| 18:28.01 | KarlThePagan | features being intentionally rejected because they're "too complex" but adding to the weight of the entire system for the sake of one very common feature |
| 18:28.03 | yacoob | correct me if I wrong, but isn't Ace2 split into various libs? |
| 18:28.15 | yacoob | and even if it's growing, you only select things you want? |
| 18:28.34 | KarlThePagan | i won't make an example but I have seen it and think that is where the simple separate mods > all philosophy needs to be examined |
| 18:29.32 | Amadeo | I need a BT3 expert! |
| 18:29.34 | ckknight | yacoob: yea, but my proposal would've added it to an existing lib |
| 18:29.50 | durcyn | my entire ace2 libs directory is 386 KiB. i'm filing a class action lawsuit over that kind of bloat! |
| 18:29.52 | ckknight | yacoob: so theoretically, if you didn't want it, you'd be SOL |
| 18:30.32 | yacoob | I see. |
| 18:30.50 | yacoob | well making everything as fine grained as possible is neat, but creates traps |
| 18:30.52 | pogotribal | Can't you just... disable the features you don't want? |
| 18:30.56 | pogotribal | And what the fuck is Dongle? |
| 18:31.01 | thalie | ckknight: true - but why not do it the way closetgnome does, adding a seperate mod that people can d/l if they want that kind of functionality in ... say BT3 which was your example of a mod which could use it? |
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| 18:31.29 | thalie | i mean, a majority of mods won't need it |
| 18:31.35 | pogotribal | And who cares what the other mods are doing? |
| 18:31.36 | KarlThePagan | closetgnome needs help |
| 18:31.49 | durcyn | can call it ProfileGnome even. |
| 18:31.54 | KarlThePagan | wtb new switcher |
| 18:32.12 | thalie | if vhaarr was here he would beat you for that karl ;) |
| 18:32.23 | KarlThePagan | i'd beat him right back |
| 18:32.26 | pogotribal | ItemRack |
| 18:32.46 | KarlThePagan | it's not an outfitter/itemrack replacement until it meets the use cases for outfitter/itemrack |
| 18:33.03 | vhaarr | I didn't write it as a itemrack/outfitter replacer. |
| 18:33.11 | KarlThePagan | i'm -->||<-- this close to using ir |
| 18:33.12 | vhaarr | I wrote it for me, and it works fine. |
| 18:33.16 | thalie | i love my closetgnome. |
| 18:33.25 | vhaarr | If you don't like it, don't fucking use it. |
| 18:33.26 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, then don't evangelize it as one when I update OutfitterFu :P |
| 18:33.30 | steev64 | its ok to come out of the closet thalie |
| 18:33.33 | kenlyric | what do you do when you want an outfit that's all stamina? |
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| 18:33.42 | thalie | create a stamina set |
| 18:33.55 | kenlyric | I was told it didn't have that ability. |
| 18:34.04 | KarlThePagan | it doesn't have a set builder |
| 18:34.06 | thalie | create a set called "stamina". put the gear you want in it. |
| 18:34.06 | KarlThePagan | not yet... |
| 18:34.11 | kenlyric | feh. |
| 18:34.11 | KarlThePagan | hm |
| 18:34.14 | thalie | it doesn't automagically build sets. |
| 18:34.19 | kenlyric | I can do that without a set mod :) |
| 18:34.27 | pogotribal | You guys need to stop being fucking lazy. |
| 18:34.31 | thalie | lol |
| 18:34.39 | pogotribal | YOu want something to automatically build you a whole fuckign set? |
| 18:34.41 | kenlyric | pogotribal: welcome to #wowace. |
| 18:34.47 | pogotribal | Based on what you have in your inventory? |
| 18:34.48 | kenlyric | pogotribal, yes. |
| 18:34.50 | pogotribal | Get the fuck out of here. |
| 18:34.55 | yacoob | it's time for the gnome to come out of the closet! |
| 18:35.04 | thalie | but that's where the clothes are. |
| 18:35.09 | sevencorvina | Do you really need an automajiCk set builder? Gnome does everything most people need it to. |
| 18:35.11 | pogotribal | Click each slot in ItemRack, choose what you want in that slot for that set, save the set when you're done. |
| 18:35.18 | pogotribal | Nobody's gonna write a fucking mod. |
| 18:35.31 | pogotribal | For those morons that keep 3 bags full of gear in their inventory. |
| 18:35.39 | Silviu- | vhaarr is mad :/ |
| 18:35.40 | pogotribal | So that they can handle every single situation that comes at them. |
| 18:35.43 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 18:35.46 | kenlyric | sevencorvina: yes. I don't want to look at every piece of gear I get and figure out which has the most spirit, which has the most healing, which has the most int. |
| 18:35.46 | sevencorvina | s/morons/druids/; |
| 18:35.51 | thalie | if anyone wants to build closetgnome_autoset, i'm sure vhaarr would provide insight into how to hook it. |
| 18:35.59 | vhaarr | indeed I would |
| 18:36.03 | kenlyric | pogotribal, someone has already written a mod, it's called outfitter. |
| 18:36.07 | vhaarr | I welcome such a module. |
| 18:36.14 | vhaarr | but it's NOT going into the core |
| 18:36.16 | Nickenyfiken | auto create a set? |
| 18:36.17 | thalie | ^^ |
| 18:36.22 | yacoob | Silviu-, the only chance to make it better is to inject vhaarr with those nanomachines. Here, take this: |-[###]>- |
| 18:36.28 | Amadeo | You know how I switch gear? I open my bags and right click :P |
| 18:36.31 | pogotribal | And Outfitter works perfectly? I doubt it. |
| 18:36.31 | Nickenyfiken | ie the best possible spirit set for example? |
| 18:36.40 | kenlyric | lol, I don't think anyone wanted it to go into the core :) |
| 18:36.44 | Silviu- | :)) |
| 18:36.44 | pogotribal | The best possible spirit set is the one with the most spirit. |
| 18:36.56 | Nickenyfiken | no its not |
| 18:36.58 | pogotribal | Mod authors can't replace Stupid. |
| 18:37.02 | Nickenyfiken | its better if 25% is str |
| 18:37.26 | pogotribal | Strength? FOr what? What kind of fucked up spirit set is this? |
| 18:37.34 | kenlyric | Amadeo: you obviously don't carry arround five sets of gear. |
| 18:37.49 | KarlThePagan | bbiab |
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| 18:37.52 | Amadeo | Who really needs 5 sets of gear? :P |
| 18:38.00 | kenlyric | (I don't either, but I did on my old priest and outfitter's set builder was a godsend. |
| 18:38.06 | Amadeo | There aren't even 5 specs you can be! |
| 18:38.15 | pogotribal | And who REALLY needs a mod to tell them what gear is the best? That means you're a farking noob who doesn't understand his class. |
| 18:38.23 | kenlyric | Amadeo: Spirit gear, healing gear, damage gear, fire resist, nature resist. |
| 18:38.30 | yacoob | pogo has a point |
| 18:38.34 | thalie | anyway, if anyone wants to take it on ... a PM to vhaarr would be the way to go :p |
| 18:38.38 | pogotribal | ken you carry all that shit around? |
| 18:38.39 | kenlyric | pogotribal: stop being a dickhead. |
| 18:38.42 | Amadeo | But nobody carries all their resist gear all the time |
| 18:38.47 | vhaarr | I won't bite :) |
| 18:38.48 | Amadeo | Just throw it in the bank, pull it out when you raid |
| 18:38.58 | thalie | rabbits don't bite. |
| 18:39.10 | kenlyric | Amadeo... yes, but then I have to click on it individually. Boring. I'd rather have a set. |
| 18:39.16 | thalie | only if they're provoked |
| 18:39.32 | vhaarr | thalie: Clearly you haven't seen Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail. |
| 18:39.39 | vhaarr | ;) |
| 18:39.43 | kergoth | cant closetgnome pull gear out of the bank if you equip a set with the bank open? |
| 18:39.47 | kenlyric | the mod doesn't tell me what gear is the best. The mod creates a set based on a single stat. I often have to modify it afterwards. |
| 18:39.49 | kergoth | i mean, isnt there an addon for that? |
| 18:39.49 | pogotribal | Someone mentioned that at a certain point, there's TOO much functionality added to a mod. If ItemRack suddenly started suggesting that my build isn't the best, I'd sack that shit in a second. |
| 18:39.55 | Harshmage | I'm on hold with the Big Blue |
| 18:40.01 | vhaarr | kergoth: No, but it can store/retrieve stuff with ClosetGnome_Banker. |
| 18:40.04 | kergoth | aha |
| 18:40.05 | kergoth | cool |
| 18:40.06 | kenlyric | outfitter does nothing of the sort. |
| 18:40.09 | pogotribal | Ken when are you sitting there with a bag full of varying stat gear? |
| 18:40.31 | kenlyric | pogotribal: who said I had to have it in my bags at all times? |
| 18:40.36 | pogotribal | More than 2 pieces of one slot? |
| 18:40.45 | Amadeo | I'm not sure I like anything deciding things for me...I never even really liked Decursive, though that was more configurable |
| 18:41.01 | kenlyric | I go to the bank, I hit my damage set, and bam, damage. |
| 18:41.42 | kergoth | so whats the problem? closetgnome_banker can pull shit out of the bank, you just have to create the sets manually, no? |
| 18:41.51 | thalie | that's exactly it kergoth |
| 18:41.57 | thalie | they are too lazy to create the sets. |
| 18:42.04 | kenlyric | yes, but you're missing the point of using mods. Increased laziness. |
| 18:42.15 | thalie | they want the mod to decide which piece is best for a particular stat. |
| 18:42.18 | kenlyric | hell, why have sets? just put the stuff on manually. |
| 18:42.27 | kergoth | well, it seems pointless to me if you have to modify the set manually after the fact anyway |
| 18:42.31 | kergoth | its not that hard to create them initially |
| 18:42.33 | kergoth | but /shrug |
| 18:42.38 | pogotribal | It is pointless. |
| 18:42.46 | yacoob | kenlyric, and later you use glider for playing the game... :D |
| 18:43.07 | pogotribal | Someone mentioned that people shy away from mods with increasing complexity and bloat. |
| 18:43.23 | kenlyric | kergoth: yes, but it's still work :) |
| 18:43.24 | thalie | it's a nice-to-have function that someone can write if they want it that badly |
| 18:43.42 | kenlyric | thalie: errr, isn't that all mods? |
| 18:43.45 | thalie | but it is in no way part of the core function of closetgnome |
| 18:43.46 | pogotribal | And why is vhaar pissed? What'd you all do to vhaar? |
| 18:44.12 | pogotribal | That's because CG doesn't need to wipe your ass and do your math. |
| 18:44.15 | thalie | haha |
| 18:44.16 | durcyn | vhaarr: speaking of banker, does it work with the main bank yet, or just bank bags still? |
| 18:44.17 | kenlyric | thalie: nobody ever said it was. |
| 18:44.22 | kenlyric | nobody ever said it should be |
| 18:44.36 | kenlyric | How many closetgnome addons are there already? 10? |
| 18:44.49 | vhaarr | durcyn: I didn't know it wasn't working |
| 18:44.56 | durcyn | vhaarr: haven't tried it in a month or so |
| 18:45.03 | vhaarr | I don't use it |
| 18:45.05 | vhaarr | so I have no idea. |
| 18:45.15 | vhaarr | If it's not working, feel free to fix it. |
| 18:45.24 | kergoth | kenlyric, would be quite easy to write a set builder, really. especially with that api function to pull stats without tooltip parsing |
| 18:45.43 | durcyn | i found a better solution: disenchanted all my old resistance gear, so banker's not needed anymore =P |
| 18:45.59 | vhaarr | durcyn: exactly :D |
| 18:45.59 | pogotribal | There you go. |
| 18:46.13 | pogotribal | Write a mod to auto-disenchant/vendor all non-TBC gear. |
| 18:46.22 | kenlyric | I just rerolled. Now all my gear is damage gear, from hellfire quests :) |
| 18:46.41 | pogotribal | You rerolled? |
| 18:46.55 | Harshmage | re-proced |
| 18:47.02 | pogotribal | Re-specced? |
| 18:47.19 | pogotribal | I don't have TBC yet but my priest is full of all those BoE damage greens. |
| 18:47.28 | durcyn | kenlyric: don't tell me you're one of those priests that went shadow and started stealing loot from real casters |
| 18:47.39 | pogotribal | durcyn: Bugger off. |
| 18:47.44 | kenlyric | yeah, I'm pretty sure I know the difference between reroll and respec. |
| 18:47.50 | kenlyric | durcyn: you mean all priests? |
| 18:47.52 | durcyn | pogotribal: heal me! |
| 18:48.04 | durcyn | kenlyric: yes =( but all the ones i've seen suck at it. |
| 18:48.05 | pogotribal | durcyn: Sorry I'm shadow. |
| 18:48.10 | pogotribal | I can't heal. |
| 18:48.14 | kenlyric | yeah, we can go back to giving the damage gear to mages and warlocks when we hit 70. Until then, they can bite me. |
| 18:48.18 | durcyn | pogotribal: /kick /gremove /ignore |
| 18:48.21 | pogotribal | lol |
| 18:48.27 | pogotribal | I'm mostly discipline actually |
| 18:48.34 | pogotribal | I'm only 11 in Shadow for mind flay. |
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| 18:49.04 | pogotribal | Healing is in technique. |
| 18:49.11 | thalie | i went full shadow... but everyone in my guild knows i'm only 1/4 a priest anyway |
| 18:49.21 | pogotribal | +damage gear is still good for healing, if you haven't noticed the +damage AND HEALING clause in it. |
| 18:49.22 | kenlyric | healing gear and spec is only for when I no longer need to do damage, aka, raiding. |
| 18:49.41 | kenlyric | in fact, I have only found one quest so far with a heealing item as a reward. |
| 18:49.49 | pogotribal | Heavy healing spec like 28/23/0 is only good for raiding. |
| 18:49.52 | kenlyric | and the damage item was a much better upgrade. |
| 18:49.57 | durcyn | pogotribal: oh, don't you get me started. it's generic spell bonus, but there are 10894342091 times more +healing-only items then there are +damage-school only items. |
| 18:50.10 | pogotribal | Yeah Ken, a lot of this +damage stuff is a better upgrade to healing than Tier 1/AQ20/ZG healing stuff. |
| 18:50.18 | kenlyric | durcyn: you're thinkking of raiding again. Not while levelling. |
| 18:50.27 | kenlyric | just take a stab at the very first instance loot tables. |
| 18:50.27 | pogotribal | durcyn: +damage-school only is rare as hell. |
| 18:50.51 | pogotribal | durcyn: Nobody goes into any encounter thinking that +damage-school only is going to drop? NOt sure where you're going with that. |
| 18:50.56 | kenlyric | fucking boars! |
| 18:51.36 | pogotribal | Fact is, not all priests want to heal some DPS class to level up or quest. Some of us like to, you know... be able to KILL things? I'm sick of people who don't understand that. |
| 18:51.55 | pogotribal | A priest that goes shadow in a group, sure, kick him and tell him he sucks. |
| 18:51.57 | kenlyric | I tried to cast heal on the undead like in final fantasy, but it didn't work. |
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| 18:52.40 | durcyn | pogotribal: no, i get it. i just think you should be playing a different class =P |
| 18:52.46 | kenlyric | I mean, how many mages went to frost for levelling and nobody bats an eye. |
| 18:52.51 | pogotribal | W T F |
| 18:52.56 | pogotribal | Ok I'm so fucking pissed at that comment. |
| 18:52.59 | kenlyric | durcyn, so how exactly does healing gear help me when I'm alone? |
| 18:53.09 | pogotribal | Hold my hand I'm a priest! |
| 18:53.23 | pogotribal | I rolled a priest so I need someone to group with me 24/7! That's what Blizzard intended! |
| 18:53.58 | durcyn | it is a multiplayer game :( |
| 18:54.00 | kenlyric | using a raiding mindset while levelling up is just crazy. Two entirely different worlds |
| 18:54.06 | pogotribal | Seriously. |
| 18:54.11 | pogotribal | Yeah it's multiplayer. I multiplay. |
| 18:54.22 | pogotribal | But you're ASSUMING that someone WANTS to be there to hold my ahnd and do DPS for me? |
| 18:54.43 | durcyn | what's your server? i'll transfer there and be your personal dps-bot if you keep me alive. |
| 18:54.52 | pogotribal | You think there's ALWAYS someone out there that actively WANTS and ENJOYS doing damage so that I don't have to? |
| 18:55.00 | pogotribal | And that's also not the point. |
| 18:55.04 | pogotribal | We HAVE damage spells. |
| 18:55.22 | pogotribal | And there isn't always +healing gear in a dungeon when there is +damage/healing gear. |
| 18:56.19 | Amadeo | I have a cooldown that Chronometer isn't picking up |
| 18:57.07 | pogotribal | Forget it, you're being ignorant for applying a raiding mentality to a 5-man and leveling. |
| 18:57.55 | durcyn | pogotribal: i've got no beef with you, i was complaining about a couple of priests in my guild that think they're god's gift to dps. the 'play another class' comment was intended to be a joke, sorry. |
| 18:58.42 | durcyn | Amadeo: chron's cooldown tracking is spotty at best, i've started using CooldownTimers2 for that |
| 18:58.49 | pogotribal | Err, woops, I thought you were serious. |
| 18:58.57 | Amadeo | durcyn: Oh? |
| 18:59.07 | durcyn | Amadeo: unless you want to add the spell to chron, yes |
| 18:59.17 | Amadeo | work just as well? |
| 18:59.21 | pogotribal | Shadow priests can hit top 10 in a raid but they need really good gear. A priest's place in a dungeon is never to damage. |
| 18:59.44 | kenlyric | cooldowntimers doesn't track hots/dots though. |
| 18:59.47 | Amadeo | It's just a game, play to have fun |
| 19:00.03 | pogotribal | But if some piece of gear is an upgrade, it's an upgrade. Damage classes don't roll on healing gear, true, but there's a LOT more +damage gear to go around. |
| 19:00.10 | durcyn | Amadeo: better, imo. different categorization for item/spell/pet cooldowns |
| 19:00.17 | Amadeo | Yeah, I need HoT/DoT |
| 19:00.23 | durcyn | Amadeo: ah. try hotcandy. |
| 19:00.37 | pogotribal | Hotcandy is for HoTs |
| 19:00.50 | pogotribal | Chrono does DoTs. |
| 19:01.09 | kenlyric | I haven't noticed chrono missing anything that cdt catches. |
| 19:01.10 | pogotribal | What spell isn't showing up on Chrono? |
| 19:01.22 | kenlyric | pogo, chrono does HoTs too. |
| 19:01.26 | Amadeo | Ferocity from Bladefist's Breadth |
| 19:01.32 | durcyn | something like 8 differennt andybar addons... sole tried to glom it all together once upon a time, it wasn't pretty. |
| 19:01.39 | durcyn | candybar* |
| 19:01.52 | durcyn | Amadeo: the item cooldown, or the effect it procs? |
| 19:01.57 | pogotribal | Chrono doesn't seem to want to get rid of DoTs after the target dies. |
| 19:02.07 | Amadeo | durcyn: Nothing shows up when I use it |
| 19:02.17 | Amadeo | I just installed it and used that to test, hehe |
| 19:02.20 | durcyn | pogotribal: that should be toggleable |
| 19:02.32 | durcyn | Amadeo: unless chron knows about the spell or buff, you're not going to get a bar. |
| 19:02.39 | Amadeo | Who updates that? |
| 19:02.46 | durcyn | Amadeo: CDT2 is what you want if you're looking for an item cooldown |
| 19:02.52 | kenlyric | pogo, yeah, it doesn't. |
| 19:03.09 | durcyn | Amadeo: toc says Bhattu |
| 19:03.19 | Amadeo | Eh, sounds like Chronometer is a mess :P |
| 19:03.32 | pogotribal | Chrono is fine. |
| 19:03.33 | durcyn | it's a port of the old AceTimer. it's meant only to track class-specific abilities |
| 19:04.04 | Amadeo | Doesn't track some stuff, doesn't get rid of DoTs after the target dies...what else? :P |
| 19:04.11 | pogotribal | And I dunno what the hell Bladefist's Breadth is, but it doesn't sound important. |
| 19:04.22 | Amadeo | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=55565 |
| 19:04.37 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.39 | sylvanaar | whats new today? |
| 19:04.52 | durcyn | sylvanaar: cats and dogs sleeping together. |
| 19:04.57 | pogotribal | How about you... look at your buffs? |
| 19:05.19 | durcyn | Amadeo: still sounds like you're wanting a trinket on-use cooldown timer bar, which CDT2 already provides. |
| 19:05.23 | pogotribal | Were you here when I was complaining that WoW mods didn't find me a job, or wipe my ass? |
| 19:05.39 | Amadeo | pogotribal: How about you pull your head out of your ass? |
| 19:05.46 | Amadeo | Stop fighting with everyone over the internet |
| 19:05.56 | durcyn | takes two to fight =P |
| 19:06.09 | Amadeo | Every time he speaks I see him fighting with someone |
| 19:06.19 | pogotribal | No he's right. I need a cigarette. |
| 19:06.25 | durcyn | Amadeo: so what you'd do is go into your chron rogue.lua or somesuch, then add a duration timer for the buff |
| 19:06.57 | durcyn | the problem i see is that the event is spell cast, not aura |
| 19:07.34 | Amadeo | Addons are there for a reason, to make things easier or more accessable...no, they shouldn't do everything for you, but they should work as described |
| 19:07.42 | pastamancer | aura doesn't catch re-applying the same effect |
| 19:07.54 | Nickenyfiken | hmm im using Sorrens timer... is Chrono better? |
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| 19:08.16 | durcyn | Amadeo: what you're describing is outside the scope of chronometer |
| 19:08.21 | Amadeo | To fight against addons seems to go against the whole point of this channel or any other WoW-Addon related channel |
| 19:08.50 | durcyn | this is not to say the scope could not be expanded, i'm just trying to tell you that it has a limited per-class inclusion list of buffs/procs that it tracks, and yours isn't currently in that list. |
| 19:08.52 | thalie | nobody is fighting against addons. addons are great. the primary fight is against scope and function creep in existing mods. |
| 19:09.00 | Amadeo | durcyn: I was under the impression that Chronometer was there to track cooldowns and effects, that's all |
| 19:09.26 | durcyn | Amadeo: player-cast self-buffs, target debuffs, and proc effects (from talents) on player and target, only. |
| 19:09.44 | Amadeo | So no items at all? |
| 19:09.46 | kenlyric | i'm thinking IN eed to get cooldown timers, with that new damage trinket that has only a 2 minute cooldown. |
| 19:09.50 | durcyn | that's all it -currently- does. and it does so not by scanning debuffs or spellbooks, just by a per-class list. |
| 19:09.56 | kenlyric | Or I need my screen to turn all red when it's up. |
| 19:09.59 | durcyn | Amadeo: no, it doesn't touch inventory, character, or bags. |
| 19:10.03 | Amadeo | If someone uses ToEP, it won't display it? |
| 19:10.06 | durcyn | nope. |
| 19:10.09 | Amadeo | Ok, that's fine then |
| 19:10.12 | durcyn | but CDT2 will, as i mentioned. |
| 19:10.25 | durcyn | only the item cooldown though, not the buff duration |
| 19:10.58 | Amadeo | I figured that was basically the addon that would take care of all of it |
| 19:11.07 | kenlyric | for some reason chrono tracks spirit buff, which makes no sense to me since it shows up in the buff window anyway. |
| 19:11.46 | Amadeo | I don't think I want to install a bunch of timer mods though |
| 19:11.51 | pastamancer | it tracks pally seals too, that's kinda handy though |
| 19:11.52 | Amadeo | I have enough trouble figuring out where to put the ones I have |
| 19:12.15 | Fisker- | What do i do if i want to cast more than one spell in a macro? |
| 19:14.19 | thalie | fisker - you can't do that anymore can you? |
| 19:14.22 | Amadeo | Speaking of feature creep, xfire sure sucks now because of it |
| 19:15.33 | Fisker- | thalie you can if the spells are not on the GCD |
| 19:15.39 | Fisker- | i thin |
| 19:15.41 | Fisker- | think |
| 19:16.04 | thalie | ah... hm. |
| 19:16.52 | kenlyric | I don't mind things being in as many mods as possible, as long as I can make them compact on my screen and I have Wau to update them :) |
| 19:17.20 | pogotribal | You have to make a castsequence. |
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| 19:17.49 | thalie | as long as i can choose which functionality i want to download and not have to delete a bunch of stuff afterwards, i'm happy |
| 19:17.53 | pogotribal | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51896128&sid=1 |
| 19:18.08 | pogotribal | That thread will explain /castsequence |
| 19:19.36 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, how does ClosetGnome_Liberace sound - the mother of all CG's that manages item stacks & toggle switching |
| 19:19.57 | KarlThePagan | that's "lib er ah chay" |
| 19:20.00 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 19:20.08 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: name is lame, but yeah. |
| 19:20.14 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 19:20.29 | KarlThePagan | yea i'm really kidding about the name |
| 19:20.32 | thalie | what does toggle switching mean? |
| 19:20.40 | KarlThePagan | I'm wearing my "dps" set |
| 19:20.46 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 19:20.51 | KarlThePagan | I want to add my "de-aggro" set which is grace of earth |
| 19:20.54 | Dhraga | Xuerian, Well I have tried, XLoot, agUF + agUFbanzai AuFRange check, CyCircled,.... the problem persists... trying l2c now and next BT3 http://pastey.net/5255 |
| 19:20.58 | KarlThePagan | then when i'm done with it I want to unequip |
| 19:21.24 | KarlThePagan | so ctrl-alt-x should equip if it's not on and un-equip if it's on |
| 19:21.29 | pogotribal | Fisker what are you trying to do? |
| 19:21.37 | thalie | hmm |
| 19:21.38 | KarlThePagan | (that's my keybinding) |
| 19:21.45 | KarlThePagan | so here's my CG plan |
| 19:21.46 | Amadeo | brb |
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| 19:22.17 | Fisker- | pogotribal cast repentance then a judgement |
| 19:22.19 | KarlThePagan | keep a stack of item sets equipped and each time there's a change/toggle just add/remove that set from the stack |
| 19:22.34 | KarlThePagan | and rebuild the stack from the first equipped item set |
| 19:23.19 | KarlThePagan | but I need to make sure calling multiple WearSet's won't freak out CG/wow |
| 19:23.40 | KarlThePagan | if it does I need to recommend a new feature |
| 19:23.54 | pogotribal | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.00 | KarlThePagan | reset=15 |
| 19:24.02 | KarlThePagan | er |
| 19:24.10 | KarlThePagan | wait |
| 19:24.15 | Fisker- | but i'd have to do that twice right? |
| 19:24.18 | Fisker- | press the macro? |
| 19:24.23 | KarlThePagan | yea you can't do it otherwise |
| 19:24.30 | KarlThePagan | or maybe |
| 19:24.38 | pogotribal | You couldn't press a single button to do it before either... |
| 19:24.47 | KarlThePagan | with /script StopCasting() or something like that |
| 19:24.54 | KarlThePagan | because judgement doesn't trigger GCD |
| 19:25.05 | KarlThePagan | or one of them doesn't |
| 19:25.08 | KarlThePagan | pallies are hax |
| 19:25.16 | pogotribal | Those scripts don't work anymore Karl. |
| 19:25.23 | Fisker- | there's a command for it now |
| 19:25.25 | pogotribal | That's why I referred him to this forum thread. |
| 19:25.31 | KarlThePagan | "<pogotribal> You couldn't press a single button to do it before either..." |
| 19:25.33 | Stephmw | removeaura or something |
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| 19:25.45 | pogotribal | Oh, right. |
| 19:25.45 | KarlThePagan | you can't now you could before |
| 19:26.02 | KarlThePagan | maybe there's a / command for stop casting |
| 19:26.11 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.13 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 19:26.17 | pogotribal | Well, you couldn't press a single button once and have it do two skills. |
| 19:26.32 | Dhraga | Xuerian, not l2c or BT3 |
| 19:26.38 | KarlThePagan | pogotribal, actually... ask a mage ;) |
| 19:26.44 | Fisker- | you could do pressence of mind/pyroblast |
| 19:26.49 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 19:26.54 | Fisker- | also trinkets+ap+pom+pyro |
| 19:27.05 | KarlThePagan | maybe not ap... i don't think it was instant |
| 19:27.08 | pogotribal | With one actual click? |
| 19:27.10 | KarlThePagan | yes |
| 19:27.16 | pogotribal | Damn. |
| 19:27.20 | KarlThePagan | yea hax |
| 19:27.37 | KarlThePagan | i have my greater heal macro'd to Inner Focus / gheal |
| 19:27.49 | KarlThePagan | or i did... i should do it again |
| 19:27.51 | pogotribal | So Fisker you could use that castsequence, and if repentance doesn't work for some reason, it won't do a judgement. |
| 19:28.49 | Industrial | ~seen cladhaire |
| 19:28.55 | purl | cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/FA/cladhaire> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 18h 2m 34s ago, saying: 'hahha'. |
| 19:29.19 | Antiarc_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nice6NYb_WA&eurl=# - wow. |
| 19:29.24 | Antiarc_ | I can't wait till this shows up in games. |
| 19:29.49 | kergoth | its empty at work |
| 19:29.53 | kergoth | all the cubicles are empty |
| 19:29.56 | kergoth | this doesnt bode well |
| 19:29.56 | pogotribal | Screw that, we need destroyable environments. |
| 19:30.16 | thalie | kergoth: did you forget to shower again? |
| 19:30.32 | kergoth | oops! |
| 19:30.35 | thalie | haahha |
| 19:31.18 | kergoth | in a way though.. today was our last release of the project, and my bug is whats holding up the release, couldnt fix it last night due to other problems with the app (was here till 2am) |
| 19:31.19 | pogotribal | The Automated Matching is coool. |
| 19:31.34 | kergoth | so if you consider my inability to fix my bug a smell, perhaps it was me indeed |
| 19:31.37 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:32.24 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 19:32.26 | Fisker- | it works |
| 19:32.29 | Fisker- | and it's actually bugged |
| 19:32.32 | Stephmw | kergoth: did they consider dropping the feature your bug is in? |
| 19:32.40 | Fisker- | Judgement of commands gets bonus damage, then it repetance's it |
| 19:32.50 | Fisker- | so that means i get the incapitate and the extra damage :D |
| 19:32.55 | Industrial | Antiarc_: holy chickenshit :o |
| 19:33.04 | Antiarc_ | Yeah, that was my reaction too. |
| 19:33.05 | Industrial | Antiarc_: freaked me out when they did the photo thing |
| 19:33.13 | pogotribal | Wouldn't you just HoJ? |
| 19:33.19 | pogotribal | Repentance seems a little... hardcore. |
| 19:33.27 | kergoth | Stephmw: aye, but telling the government either they wont get what they want, or they'll have to pay for days more development, isnt something i'd want to be stuck doing :P |
| 19:33.51 | Stephmw | kergoth: that's what managers are for :) |
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| 19:33.54 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:34.07 | Antiarc_ | That guy is doing some stupidly heavy-duty math. |
| 19:34.13 | sevencorvina | Feathermoon is almost losing it's collective mind over this server split. I try to be as level-headed as possible, but it's startin' to get to me. |
| 19:34.14 | Stephmw | kergoth: in the end it's a business decision... risk/money/time |
| 19:34.24 | thalie | they're actually splitting it? |
| 19:34.33 | Stephmw | kergoth: if you're still hacking away, guess they opted for time |
| 19:34.36 | Antiarc_ | Cenarion Circle is under threat of a split too. |
| 19:34.56 | thalie | everyone who is queued and has a server move on right now is under that threat |
| 19:35.18 | Antiarc_ | 1000-man queues in the evening suck -_- |
| 19:35.35 | kergoth | Stephmw: well... i heard the decision was to be made at 9, i woke up at 11 and just got here not long ago :P |
| 19:35.41 | kergoth | no idea what they decided on, since they're all missing |
| 19:35.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:35.47 | pastamancer | they should have separate queues for hord and alliance to encourage more horde players |
| 19:35.49 | thalie | they decided you would fix it :) |
| 19:38.46 | Antiarc_ | I've just started playing with AceModuleCore, but is there an automated way to generate an enable/disable menu for your modules for use in slash commands or a FuBar menu or what have you? |
| 19:38.52 | Antiarc_ | (If not, should I write one?) |
| 19:39.22 | Antiarc_ | So I right-click my fubar addon, see "Modules", under modules see a list of modules, and under each module a "Enabled" toggle. |
| 19:41.14 | durcyn | Fisker-: CastSequence, btw |
| 19:42.09 | Fisker- | nah /cast is fine and h4x |
| 19:42.24 | durcyn | Fisker-: oh, no GCD? |
| 19:42.34 | durcyn | that is hax. |
| 19:42.58 | kergoth | Antiarc_: i dont think theres an automated way, but adding it to each aceoptions is easy enough.. see cartographer's modules for example |
| 19:43.22 | OvrLrd-Q | bah wowhead down :( |
| 19:43.28 | Antiarc_ | Aye, it's not hard. Just wondering if there was a method already to prevent wheel reinvention. :D |
| 19:44.10 | kergoth | Antiarc_: well, i can see why it wouldnt be automated |
| 19:44.21 | Antiarc_ | kergoth: Why's that? |
| 19:44.25 | kergoth | consider, would you want each addon module to have its toggle in its aceoptions, or in the aceoptions of the main addon? |
| 19:44.39 | kergoth | some addons do one, some the other |
| 19:45.54 | Antiarc_ | Well, I'm not talking about something that is automated for all module addons |
| 19:46.07 | pastamancer | not all modules have menus |
| 19:46.11 | Antiarc_ | But, say, an AceModuleCore method to generate an AceOptions table of all your registered modules with toggle-ability for each. |
| 19:46.26 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 19:46.33 | Antiarc_ | It does? |
| 19:46.37 | sylvanaar | doesnt it |
| 19:46.45 | sylvanaar | it lists all the modules |
| 19:46.58 | sylvanaar | and if you have em disabled or not |
| 19:47.05 | pogotribal | Surumar was screwed from launch. |
| 19:47.20 | sylvanaar | then again - i didnt write it |
| 19:47.27 | pogotribal | I'm on the east coast, and Surumar is the recommended server STILL whenever I choose a Normal server. |
| 19:47.34 | Antiarc_ | sylvanaar: I don't see that in the doc... |
| 19:48.52 | sylvanaar | you gotta look at the code - though i could be wrong as well |
| 19:49.02 | vhaarr | ~seen arjuna |
| 19:49.28 | purl | arjuna <n=arjuna@pool-71-254-28-185.clppva.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 1h 22m 59s ago, saying: '?'. |
| 19:50.00 | sylvanaar | the problem with having the core track things is that you dont have default on/off choices |
| 19:50.09 | Antiarc_ | http://ace.pastey.net/5265 |
| 19:50.11 | Antiarc_ | Something like that. |
| 19:50.33 | sylvanaar | and it doesnt lend itself to menu design very well |
| 19:50.51 | durcyn | kergoth: the grass is always browner, when you play alliance =( |
| 19:52.04 | Funkeh` | alliance ftw, l2p nub horde |
| 19:52.52 | Trancer | was nice, with the pvp "buff" (easy gear for everyone) horde was winning a lot more on my battlegroup |
| 19:52.57 | durcyn | Funkeh`: judging by your comment, i have determined that you play a night-elf hunter. |
| 19:53.04 | Trancer | will probly last for a while |
| 19:53.05 | thalie | ahahha durcyn |
| 19:53.08 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 19:53.18 | Funkeh` | no i don't |
| 19:53.25 | Trancer | then you play a pally |
| 19:53.53 | Funkeh` | no |
| 19:54.57 | Mikma | i hope anyone of you didn't start a new char on Hellfire |
| 19:55.05 | Mikma | because it's full of whining idiots |
| 19:55.10 | thalie | most servers are |
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| 19:56.45 | durcyn | wish blizzard would make a "21 and up" server, or impliment an IQ test. just one or two realms without retards. |
| 19:57.49 | vhaarr | durcyn: Mensa server. |
| 20:00.48 | KarlThePagan | wouldn't solve a thing |
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| 20:00.56 | NightHawkTheSane | the only server without retards is one with just yourself. :P |
| 20:01.13 | KarlThePagan | roll with a guild |
| 20:01.20 | KarlThePagan | bbiab |
| 20:01.33 | Trancer | durcyn: no, please not |
| 20:01.41 | Trancer | durcyn: I love selling moronic gear for insane prices |
| 20:02.02 | RaydenUni | there is an old ironforge? |
| 20:02.08 | thalie | yes |
| 20:02.23 | Antiarc_ | Guilds for the win. |
| 20:02.26 | RaydenUni | what happened to it? |
| 20:02.28 | Antiarc_ | Seriously. Find a good guild, ignore the rest of the server. |
| 20:02.33 | Antiarc_ | Voila, whining solved. |
| 20:02.36 | RaydenUni | like at some point blizzard decided to move it? |
| 20:02.42 | Antiarc_ | They closed it off. |
| 20:02.56 | thalie | i'd imagine it'll get opened up at some point in the future |
| 20:02.56 | RaydenUni | what was wrong with it and where is the new one in relation to it? |
| 20:03.00 | RaydenUni | i'm horde, so never been there |
| 20:03.03 | thalie | the new one is above it |
| 20:03.04 | durcyn | you can still get to it by dueling a mage by the military ward, then getting sheeped on the door to the throne room |
| 20:03.07 | Trancer | some gnomes had sex in there RaydenUni |
| 20:03.10 | Trancer | it's contiminated now |
| 20:03.12 | Trancer | they had to seal it off |
| 20:03.19 | RaydenUni | ah, Racoon City |
| 20:03.22 | thalie | damn gnomes. |
| 20:03.37 | RaydenUni | so you used to be able to go to the old IF |
| 20:03.40 | durcyn | the sheep will wander through the wall, and if it happens to break while you're there, you can hop down into old IF |
| 20:03.43 | durcyn | still can. |
| 20:03.48 | RaydenUni | then they made a new IF? or they replaced it? |
| 20:04.00 | RaydenUni | http://ei-am.blogspot.com/2007/01/top-10-wow-exploits-of-all-time.html |
| 20:04.37 | RaydenUni | i'm not sure i understand |
| 20:04.39 | kergoth | joy, this issue at work is still top priority |
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| 20:04.44 | RaydenUni | has there always been an old and new ironforge? |
| 20:04.54 | durcyn | yes, since the original beta |
| 20:04.55 | RaydenUni | or was there one ironforge and it got sealed off and a new one was made? |
| 20:05.07 | durcyn | old ironforge is from way back before release |
| 20:05.28 | RaydenUni | so they decided they wanted it somewhere else? |
| 20:05.47 | thalie | ... anyone from blizzard who can comment on the thought process? no? :p |
| 20:05.48 | durcyn | they remodelled. old IF is crappy. |
| 20:05.49 | NeoTron | there was an old ironforce you used to be able go to |
| 20:05.54 | NeoTron | in fact the king was down below |
| 20:06.03 | RaydenUni | oh and they just left the old map... |
| 20:06.05 | NeoTron | I found old IF (the actual IF design) to have been cool |
| 20:06.14 | NeoTron | but without the overhead maps, impossible to navigate in |
| 20:06.23 | NeoTron | with todays tools, it would have been nice |
| 20:06.54 | NeoTron | it used to have multiple circles and multiple levels (gnomes were down an elevator which at times was as solid as air :) |
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| 20:08.11 | durcyn | all that's left is the king's chamber now.. but you can still get there with a well-timed /duel and polymorph. |
| 20:08.13 | RaydenUni | i think if i was a GM i'd make myself a motorcycle mount |
| 20:08.54 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:08.57 | ckknight | at work now |
| 20:09.56 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 20:12.22 | Cyrez | Heh, I fired up the Yahoo! News plug-in for Messenger and the only thing I'm having it show is WowAce's Trac RSS feed. ^^ |
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| 20:13.32 | snurre- | hihi, our first two 70s dinged with 20min between them |
| 20:13.39 | snurre- | and one of them already has epic flying mount |
| 20:13.47 | RaydenUni | lots of 70s now it appears |
| 20:13.51 | RaydenUni | 3 or 4 on my server right now |
| 20:13.56 | kergoth | i'm not even 61 |
| 20:14.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:14.01 | RaydenUni | i'm 50 |
| 20:14.04 | thalie | me either kergoth |
| 20:14.08 | thalie | but i rerolled draenei |
| 20:14.10 | snurre- | ill be 60 in about 4h |
| 20:14.11 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 20:14.12 | snurre- | 70 |
| 20:14.13 | snurre- | * |
| 20:14.14 | durcyn | only 65, but i like to sleep and have a job, wtf! |
| 20:14.28 | ckknight | snurre-: go for the gold! |
| 20:14.30 | snurre- | i have a job too :( |
| 20:14.32 | snurre- | so i lost the race |
| 20:14.54 | NeoTron | not in an incredible hurry to get to 70 I must admit |
| 20:14.54 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:14.57 | durcyn | then i have to repeat it 3 times for other characters. sighbomb. |
| 20:14.59 | Mikma | can shamans learn swords now? |
| 20:15.03 | Cyrez | If my girlfriend was here I wouldn't be on the computer quite as much. |
| 20:15.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikma: no |
| 20:16.28 | Cyrez | Other than that, I'm probably averaging at least 18 hours a day. No life, no school, and no job. >< |
| 20:16.45 | Cyrez | And I don't need as much sleep as the average human. |
| 20:17.09 | kergoth | i have a job, a deadline in that job, and a troublesome 4 month old puppy to take care of while the gf is out of town |
| 20:17.13 | NeoTron | living in a basement belonging to the parental units? :P |
| 20:17.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:17.15 | durcyn | Cyrez: it catches up with you, though. i went 3 days straight, now i think i'll sleep for 24 hours straight. |
| 20:18.54 | Cyrez | Not really... I have an unusual amount of raw energy. I was up for more than a week with probably only an hour of sleep. And I was trying to sleep but it just didn't happen. No drugs or anything. I even tried chamomile. |
| 20:19.05 | Cyrez | Still wired. |
| 20:19.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:19.13 | Cyrez | Brain was slowing down but I was wired. |
| 20:19.15 | kergoth | i'm usually tired |
| 20:22.44 | sylvanaar | theres a new test version of WAU for anyone interested in trying it |
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| 20:23.38 | Cyrez | I'm good. Most of my addon folder is pulled from SVN, including some stuff not from Wowace. |
| 20:24.15 | Cyrez | TortoiseSVN FTW. |
| 20:24.23 | sylvanaar | ^.^ |
| 20:24.30 | sylvanaar | you didnt read the rules |
| 20:24.58 | Cyrez | Yes, I did. I monitor the RSS feed and only update stuff that's changed. |
| 20:25.09 | Cyrez | Not all of it at once. |
| 20:25.39 | Cyrez | And it says you CAN do that, just that they prefer that you don't and if you do no more than once a day. |
| 20:25.52 | _neuron_ | it's in the bible Cyrez |
| 20:25.55 | _neuron_ | though shalt not rape the svn server |
| 20:26.22 | Cyrez | I know, I don't update unless I know there's something to update. |
| 20:26.29 | sylvanaar | awrite |
| 20:27.03 | Cyrez | And if it's a lib I do a quick search and select only those folders. |
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| 20:28.06 | Cyrez | But it annoys me that some of the libs are redudant, especially when it comes to FuBar plugins. Some only need two libs and the rest are loaded by FuBar, anyway. |
| 20:29.00 | Cyrez | And since the plugins are obviously dependant on FuBar they can make use of the libs they need from it. |
| 20:29.46 | pastamancer | most fubar plugins are only optionally dependent on fubar because they'll work just fine hanging off the mini-map |
| 20:31.23 | durcyn | Cyrez: and that is why i use standalone libs |
| 20:31.29 | sylvanaar | embedding causes the dependancy tree to be flattened - thats the redundancy |
| 20:32.02 | Cyrez | I know, but it's just kind of annoying having to update every copy of each of the libs. If I wanted to get crazy, though, I would have only one REAL copy and turn the rest into aliases. |
| 20:32.31 | sylvanaar | or just run standalone |
| 20:32.32 | ZealotOnAStick | disembed, problem solved. |
| 20:32.46 | sylvanaar | its better anyways |
| 20:32.47 | durcyn | cuts down on load time by a wee bit too |
| 20:33.15 | durcyn | instead of hundreds of "am i current" lib checks, you get.. 1 per. |
| 20:34.06 | sylvanaar | only problem with standalones is that their dependancies aren't set properly in many cases |
| 20:34.28 | sylvanaar | they are listed as optional when they really arent |
| 20:34.50 | durcyn | sylvanaar: optionaldeps are there to fix load order |
| 20:34.56 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 20:35.02 | Cyrez | The problem is that I'm using TortoiseSVN. If I change even a single byte, the sexy check mark in the green circle turns into an evil X in a red circle on the folder. |
| 20:35.03 | durcyn | if addon A depends on lib Z, you want Z loaded first, is all |
| 20:35.03 | Cyrez | >< |
| 20:36.08 | durcyn | someone with more knowledge of how LoD works could probably offer a reasonable explanation for using OptionalDeps instead of Dependencies |
| 20:36.09 | Cyrez | And I don't use WAU because the zip files don't update as quickly as the trunk. |
| 20:36.11 | sylvanaar | i have said this before, that x-embeds doesnt give you the direct dependancies of an addon, and there's no way to derive it |
| 20:36.38 | sylvanaar | Cyrez: you havent used the lastest version w/ a mirror |
| 20:36.39 | durcyn | Cyrez: three times an hour isn't enough for you? have you talked to a psychiatrist for your obsessive-compulsive disorder? |
| 20:36.59 | sylvanaar | its 10-20 times faster |
| 20:36.59 | durcyn | the svn-to-zip cron runs every 20 minutes |
| 20:37.05 | Nargiddley | most have to be optional deps, or when they are embedded the addon wouldnt load |
| 20:37.25 | durcyn | Nargiddley: sylv's question was why optdep rather than straight dep |
| 20:37.28 | sylvanaar | yeah i know Nargiddley |
| 20:37.44 | sylvanaar | there just isnt a way to reconstruct it |
| 20:37.49 | durcyn | which i just realized is when you're not running standalone, nevermind |
| 20:37.56 | Cyrez | I monitor Trac so I'm pretty much up-to-the-minute. |
| 20:37.56 | durcyn | i need more sleep. |
| 20:38.20 | sylvanaar | When you are running standalone you want straight Deps |
| 20:39.22 | sylvanaar | aw hell, im wrong |
| 20:39.52 | sylvanaar | cause you could have your missing library embedded in some other addon even if yoou are standalone |
| 20:40.36 | Cyrez | I'm modifying FuBar with a nice collection of plugins that will also be slightly modified. I'm going to stick with the SVN stuff but it's something I wanna try for fun on the side. |
| 20:41.04 | Cyrez | Gonna see how much I can slim it down without anything exploding. ^^ |
| 20:41.19 | sylvanaar | i dont get it |
| 20:42.16 | sylvanaar | you gonna fork fubar? |
| 20:43.03 | Cyrez | I'm making some modifications just for me. |
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| 20:44.11 | Cyrez | And build my own private UI comp. |
| 20:44.24 | Cyrez | Just for the lack of anything better to do with my time. |
| 20:44.33 | Antiarc_ | I tend to build my own UI compiliations by writing new mods to do what I want. :D |
| 20:44.41 | Antiarc_ | Then I ...release the mods, so I guess it's not private. |
| 20:44.43 | Antiarc_ | Heh. |
| 20:44.47 | Antiarc_ | </random outburst> |
| 20:45.01 | Cyrez | Full-featured but fast as hell. |
| 20:45.07 | Cyrez | Yeah, I'll do that if I have to. |
| 20:45.15 | thalie | if they are so good cyrez you should release them :p |
| 20:45.22 | Antiarc_ | I really need a nerdy math-type person who plays a hunter :( |
| 20:45.34 | Antiarc_ | Because I have no idea about hunter damage cycles and I really want to integrate them into my mod. |
| 20:45.45 | Antiarc_ | Hell, any raiding hunters here? |
| 20:47.09 | Cyrez | About the only thing I might release, if I release anything, is a pretty old (WoW 1.11) FuBar plugin that I hacked so it'd be compatible. |
| 20:47.09 | Cyrez | And it took more than just changing the TOC. |
| 20:47.10 | sylvanaar | why not contribute to one of the existing projects |
| 20:47.10 | Cyrez | I'm not a coder. I'm just good at connecting dots if you catch my drift. |
| 20:47.20 | Mikma | connect this: ..|.. |
| 20:47.24 | lassizci | Did bartender ever show spellcooldowns? I just lost the timers from buttons but I'm not sure if I have disabled some other addon that did it |
| 20:47.24 | durcyn | Cyrez: um... nipples? i guess i don't catch your drift. |
| 20:47.28 | thalie | hahaha mikma |
| 20:47.29 | thalie | <3 <3 |
| 20:47.39 | Cyrez | I looked at another FuBar plugin and compared the matching lines and figured out what was breaking it. |
| 20:47.41 | durcyn | lassizci: not anymore. you'll be wanting CooldownCount |
| 20:47.47 | thalie | or omnicc |
| 20:47.52 | Cyrez | There was square brackets missing. |
| 20:48.11 | durcyn | or that! i heard a rumor earlier that omnicc was involved in some nasty tainting though. YMMV. |
| 20:48.15 | Cyrez | And I changed Locale from 2.0 to 2.2. |
| 20:48.24 | thalie | i haven't had any problems with omnicc, anyway |
| 20:48.26 | thalie | np |
| 20:48.28 | Cyrez | Then, boom, it was all happy and stuff. ^^ |
| 20:48.32 | Antiarc_ | Cyrez: You're dangerously close to turning into a fledgling coder. |
| 20:48.53 | durcyn | hell, knowing how to fix things like that puts you in the 95th percentile. |
| 20:49.04 | Cyrez | I know, I've taken classes but my mind isn't wired quite in that way. |
| 20:49.39 | lassizci | durcyn: ok, ty |
| 20:49.42 | Cyrez | I fix things or I make them work the way I want them to work. |
| 20:49.51 | Cyrez | That's the way I game. |
| 20:50.00 | Cyrez | I play when I can play it in my own way. |
| 20:50.04 | kenlyric | it's just a small leap from taking apart the toaster and figuring out how it works to building your own toaster. |
| 20:50.18 | ckknight | yep |
| 20:50.21 | Antiarc_ | Exactly. |
| 20:50.29 | Antiarc_ | If you are reading and tweaking code, you're on the path to coderdom! |
| 20:50.32 | Cyrez | Which is why I got so hooked into WoW. It makes playing in your own way a snap. |
| 20:50.33 | kenlyric | my doesn't time travel yet, though. |
| 20:50.41 | Antiarc_ | I started my coding career by hacking Nibbles in QBasic. :) |
| 20:50.56 | kenlyric | I mean, how many of us made our first webpage by ripping off someone elses and putting our name in it? |
| 20:51.08 | Antiarc_ | *crickets* |
| 20:51.11 | thalie | i dunno about the others but without ui mods i would have quit wow ages ago... half of the fun is in the UI |
| 20:51.23 | Antiarc_ | Though I did make my first webpage by copy-pasting snippets of code from a bunch of other sites into my site. |
| 20:51.29 | Antiarc_ | Agreed, thalie |
| 20:51.36 | Cyrez | I can code but I don't really have a passion for it. But if something breaks I can sometimes fix it. |
| 20:51.37 | Antiarc_ | When I log on and don't feel like doing anything, I hack on the UI. |
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| 20:52.26 | Soulless | syntax highlighting ingame hot |
| 20:54.48 | Cyrez | I'm working on making a shell script to do some automated hacking for me that'll cut down on memory like crazy as far as the libs go. That way, I can update addons anytime then just run the script again and I'm golden. |
| 20:56.06 | Cyrez | I've started the first part which involves modifying the TOC's all in one shot but it's only half done. |
| 20:56.19 | Cyrez | find ./ -name FuBar_*.toc | xargs grep -r -v -i 'libs\\Ace\|libs\\Dew\|libs\\Jos' |
| 20:57.02 | vhaarr | Just update without externals? |
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| 20:57.15 | ckknight | yea, I'd use standalones if I were you. |
| 20:57.40 | Soulless | so oCB is dead no? |
| 20:57.45 | vhaarr | CBRipoff. |
| 20:57.53 | thalie | cbripoff rocks |
| 20:57.54 | Antiarc_ | Haste just pulled oCB from the wowace repo |
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| 20:58.04 | Antiarc_ | He's still developing it AFAIK, but there is CBRipoff if you want to use that. |
| 20:58.06 | thalie | wish i could get rid of the strange man who shows up on some non-combat spells |
| 20:58.15 | thalie | :) |
| 20:58.39 | SkorcherX | oCB is the greatest casting bar ever.. goes hand in hand with agUF |
| 20:58.53 | Soulless | except you can't get it anymore |
| 20:59.00 | thalie | cbripoff is oCB |
| 20:59.06 | Soulless | well i gathered that |
| 20:59.12 | Soulless | anyways, ty |
| 20:59.53 | Cyrez | I know what you're saying, but I wanna have the script copy from my up-to-the-minute SVN stuff anything that's newer then hack and delete as needed. |
| 20:59.54 | Soulless | did they fix the enchant coloring this patch? |
| 21:00.07 | Antiarc_ | yeah |
| 21:00.40 | Soulless | the Part 2.0 - Replacing text is annoying : / |
| 21:00.45 | Soulless | i liked having just Prat |
| 21:00.51 | Mikma | http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0477051/Ss/0477051/32.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0477051 |
| 21:01.01 | Cyrez | So it can stay current with the trunk but without the .svn folders. |
| 21:01.20 | sylvanaar | Soulless whats annoying about it |
| 21:01.21 | Antiarc_ | any hunters here familiar with damage cycles able to tell me if Multishot is a part of your standard damage cycle? |
| 21:01.44 | Antiarc_ | The info I have says "autoshot, arcane shot when it's up, steady shot if it isn't" |
| 21:01.52 | Soulless | theres no way to turn it off, unless i missed something, you can hide all of the text, but i liked having {icon} Prat like before |
| 21:02.07 | Soulless | now its either just the icon, or that whole long string which takes up too much space to be usable |
| 21:02.25 | thalie | sylv: i liked it better when the modules were outside of the main package in svn so we could pick and choose which we wanted without having to delete files out of the modules :) but that's me being nitpicky |
| 21:02.35 | sylvanaar | oh no |
| 21:02.54 | sylvanaar | cant you just turn them off? |
| 21:03.19 | Soulless | oh yes, you no longer need the seperate plugin for part/fubar? |
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| 21:03.39 | ckknight | hide the plugin |
| 21:03.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 21:03.57 | ckknight | hey Tem |
| 21:04.10 | sylvanaar | seriously its in development the text is there for a reason |
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| 21:04.43 | Cyrez | Anybody here have interest in using FuBar_DamageMetersFu2? |
| 21:04.46 | Soulless | lol fine fine, was just saying :D |
| 21:05.18 | durcyn | sylvanaar: the only quirkiness i noticed is that it totally broke Teknicolor. |
| 21:05.53 | durcyn | but PlayerNames works plenty well for that anyway ;) |
| 21:05.59 | Cyrez | Anyone? If enough people want it I can try to keep it working. |
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| 21:07.06 | Cyrez | Am I the only one with DamageMeters and FuBar? |
| 21:07.34 | Soulless | i thought DM died a long time ago |
| 21:07.41 | sylvanaar | durcyn: yeah its going to do that - but teknicolor could, support prats plugin model probably with minimal effort |
| 21:07.45 | Cyrez | No, it's very much alive. |
| 21:07.54 | Cyrez | 5.6.0, now, I think. |
| 21:07.56 | Antiarc_ | I still use DM, but I just keep the window up. |
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| 21:08.05 | Antiarc_ | I want to know relative positions, not just a number. |
| 21:08.08 | Thrae | Cyrez: Yeah, everyone else uses SW_Stats or something lighter. DamageMeters has had problems for a long time and doesn't have a dedicated author. |
| 21:08.22 | Soulless | hmm, i liked sw_stats but its huge now |
| 21:08.36 | sylvanaar | no it isnt |
| 21:08.44 | Antiarc_ | sw_stats didn't seem to record things properly for me, and the interface felt really clunky. :/ |
| 21:08.46 | sylvanaar | it collects alot of data |
| 21:08.51 | Soulless | yeah |
| 21:08.55 | kergoth | i've always hated swstats's interface |
| 21:08.55 | Soulless | more than i what |
| 21:08.59 | Soulless | want* |
| 21:09.01 | kergoth | was always unintuitive imo |
| 21:09.07 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 21:09.08 | ckknight | so it's likely that I'll be taking on a new project soon, for kicks |
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| 21:09.17 | ckknight | I'm thinking something that deals with communication |
| 21:09.18 | Thrae | SW_Stats is the most popular on my server -- it seems only right to use it if I want a sync'ing addon. If I just wanted stats, I would use Recap. |
| 21:09.24 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 21:09.25 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: Oh? |
| 21:09.25 | Soulless | its got nice features, but it collects like ------------------------------------------ this much crap, and i use --- this much |
| 21:09.29 | ckknight | anyone have any ideas/requests? |
| 21:09.50 | sylvanaar | interview - you can write it |
| 21:09.57 | Thrae | ckknight: SW_Stats / KLHThreatmeter replacement ;) |
| 21:09.57 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: A generic library for synching a database across a channel as efficiently as possible, where no one client is authoritative. |
| 21:10.03 | yacoob | xml cake! http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~tony/cake.jpg |
| 21:10.16 | ckknight | Thrae: hrm, I might... |
| 21:10.29 | Antiarc_ | I'd be tempted to do a SW_Stats replacement, as well. |
| 21:10.31 | ckknight | Antiarc_: quite complex, but maybe |
| 21:10.41 | ckknight | not sure about the authoritativeness, though |
| 21:10.42 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: We were talking about it extensively yesterday |
| 21:10.47 | Antiarc_ | This has been something I've been thinking a lot about lately. |
| 21:10.53 | ckknight | alright |
| 21:10.55 | Antiarc_ | If you want to bounce ideas around, I'd love to. |
| 21:10.56 | ckknight | it seems very important. |
| 21:11.01 | ckknight | yea, sure |
| 21:11.04 | Antiarc_ | Well, the context was synching cart notes. |
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| 21:11.13 | Thrae | ckknight: You could just start with a simple DPS / Damage Total addon which syncs, and add modules from there. |
| 21:11.22 | ckknight | how does svk handle it, I mean, that's a decentralized system, right? |
| 21:11.26 | Antiarc_ | svk? |
| 21:11.28 | pastamancer | Antiarc_: it would also be very useful for in-game calendar/dkp |
| 21:11.29 | Thrae | Like Healing, Mob Damage, etc. |
| 21:11.32 | Antiarc_ | pastamancer: Exactly. |
| 21:11.40 | ckknight | pastamancer: that's what I was thinking |
| 21:11.43 | Antiarc_ | pastamancer: That's the concept that originally got me thinking about the concept. |
| 21:11.47 | pastamancer | well, svk has authoratative sources |
| 21:11.53 | ckknight | ah, blast |
| 21:11.54 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 21:12.12 | Antiarc_ | I think it was sylvanaar that recommended a token ring kind of synching - |
| 21:12.12 | ckknight | hrm, maybe some kind of dating or versioning... |
| 21:12.26 | ckknight | but that grows complicated if there's two versions |
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| 21:12.55 | sylvanaar | ckknight: imho, start with something practical - like remote aceevents |
| 21:12.55 | kenlyric | ckknight: you want to make an autobuff addon :) |
| 21:12.55 | pastamancer | you need to go all gpg chain of trust with public-key crypto |
| 21:12.55 | Antiarc_ | Not really, and here's why -- |
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| 21:12.56 | ckknight | kenlyric: no, it's impossible now |
| 21:12.56 | Cyrez | ckknight: Maybe a guild chat window with avatars in the form of class icons? |
| 21:13.07 | kenlyric | no, it's not. Bind it to the scrollwheel like autobuff did and smartbuff does. |
| 21:13.11 | ckknight | Cyrez: just use colors |
| 21:13.19 | ckknight | kenlyric: that's impossible. |
| 21:13.20 | Antiarc_ | Someone makes a request and enumerates all clients in the channel on a common function (say, alpha sort), then picks an offset to start from. The client with the offset publishes all their data and then "done". The next client publishes all their data that isn't the same as what the previous client just published. |
| 21:13.27 | kenlyric | ckknight: no, it's not. |
| 21:13.28 | ckknight | kenlyric: that was fixed |
| 21:13.29 | Antiarc_ | So on and so forth until all clients have published their data. |
| 21:13.30 | kenlyric | Smartbuff. |
| 21:13.36 | thalie | out of combat would be do-able ... |
| 21:13.37 | kenlyric | it's working right this moment. |
| 21:13.47 | ckknight | hrm, I guess it could be done OOC... |
| 21:13.49 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 21:13.53 | Cyrez | ckkight: I know but it'd be super cool... Is it a lot harder to do that way? |
| 21:13.54 | kenlyric | yes, it's done ooc. |
| 21:14.01 | kenlyric | well, it works in combat, butt there is no logic testing. |
| 21:14.06 | ckknight | Cyrez: yes |
| 21:14.19 | kenlyric | so it'll just spam battle shout over and over until you run out of mana. |
| 21:14.25 | thalie | just stop the logic in combat |
| 21:14.26 | kenlyric | errr, rage |
| 21:14.29 | Randrage | Cartographer question: Anyone know why shared mining nodes and quest givers show up as question marks for other ppl? even if they have the mining and quests modules installed? |
| 21:14.45 | kenlyric | that's what smartbuff does, or you can enable it to work in combat (whcih is what I do on my warrior). |
| 21:14.46 | Randrage | shared herbs show up fine, with the appropriate icons |
| 21:14.50 | kergoth | thats weird, if they have the modules it should work fine |
| 21:14.50 | ckknight | Randrage: it shouldn't if those modules are installed |
| 21:15.11 | Randrage | they do =/ |
| 21:15.13 | thalie | i just want auto-selfbuff - don't care about buffing everyone else, i can do that myself |
| 21:15.17 | Randrage | could it be a version conflict? |
| 21:15.36 | SkorcherX | what is the ace2 of equivilant of "gatherer" and/or gatherershare |
| 21:15.44 | Antiarc_ | Cartographer with appropriate modules. |
| 21:16.10 | Thrae | ckknight: If you really want to do something much more technical, I'd like to see something like swarming added for addons that need to deal with a LOT of information across channels. So that each client connected via the channel gets ONE update from ONE client. |
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| 21:16.19 | sylvanaar | i havent figuered out how to get the instance modules to display bosses or loot |
| 21:16.22 | Randrage | half my guild has cartographer installed with all the modules on wowace, but mines and quest givers still show up as question marks for whatever reason |
| 21:16.32 | Randrage | i don't need the icon sets modules do i? |
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| 21:17.16 | sylvanaar | Thrae someone did that once - and addon channel proxy |
| 21:17.58 | Thrae | ckknight: That way, you could build global databases without D/C'ing everyone, or having horribly long update updates due to massive throttling from the duplicate data. |
| 21:18.07 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Remember which? |
| 21:18.11 | ckknight | people don't D/C now |
| 21:18.18 | ckknight | it's already throttled appropriately |
| 21:18.25 | ckknight | I worked with Mikk to handle that issue |
| 21:18.28 | Thrae | ckknight: Including text channels? |
| 21:18.39 | ckknight | yes, if sent by comm |
| 21:18.52 | Antiarc_ | At any rate, I think it would be slick as hell to have a means of distributing a database among the subscribers of a channel. |
| 21:19.07 | durcyn | Randrage: you hae to have the modules -loaded-. they only auto load if you have those gathering professions by default. |
| 21:19.26 | Randrage | i see, thanks |
| 21:20.04 | sylvanaar | Trhrae: no not really, it was on curse. I made one also at one point also. |
| 21:20.07 | Cyrez | ckkight: What about a guild chat window that'll show whatever additional info you select? Like, you could have a variety of stuff to choose from like showing the class as text or by coloring the name or showing the player's level or location and maybe even whether something appears to the left or right of the name. |
| 21:20.14 | Thrae | Yeah, but I'm talking a lot of information...say, if we had a way to share MobInfo2...hmmm... |
| 21:20.23 | durcyn | Cyrez: Prat does 97% of that already |
| 21:20.30 | Cyrez | Oh. ^^ |
| 21:20.46 | Barbanus | ckknight, so was Jostle the issue with the tainting? |
| 21:20.55 | ckknight | no |
| 21:20.58 | Barbanus | I saw you committed, but I didn't have a chance to test |
| 21:20.58 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: An addon that causes guild members to publish their position every 5 sec or so if they are not in an instance, and then add that info to the global map as party dots, even if they aren't in a party with you |
| 21:20.59 | ckknight | Jostle's fine |
| 21:21.04 | sylvanaar | location is the only things prat doesnt do, and if someone wanted to they could add it |
| 21:21.08 | Antiarc_ | So you can see where everyone in your guild is at all times |
| 21:21.12 | Barbanus | ckknight, so its still happening? |
| 21:21.15 | ckknight | Antiarc_: that'd be easy |
| 21:21.21 | Antiarc_ | Yes, and it would be awesome! |
| 21:21.22 | durcyn | Antiarc_: hmm. think i saw that done once, GuildMap or something? |
| 21:21.23 | Thrae | I think it might be better to have a combination of whispers/channel |
| 21:21.25 | kenlyric | Antiarc_: there's a mod that does that already. |
| 21:21.30 | Antiarc_ | Oh. Well fine! :P |
| 21:21.32 | kergoth | Antiarc_: guildmap does that, its even ace2 |
| 21:21.36 | kergoth | not sure how efficient it is, but.. |
| 21:21.36 | kenlyric | Antiarc_: it requires that they ahve the mod too. |
| 21:21.42 | Antiarc_ | kenlyric: Yeah, not surprising |
| 21:21.44 | Antiarc_ | But cool! |
| 21:21.44 | ckknight | Barbanus: yea, in the weird case where you're in combat and the PvP World state changes |
| 21:21.59 | Barbanus | ckknight, thats screwed up |
| 21:22.05 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:22.07 | kenlyric | I think the default ui should have more info about guild members, like how far away they are. |
| 21:22.15 | durcyn | ugh. GuildMap is 35KiB of .xml |
| 21:22.15 | kenlyric | then a mod could use that data to build a map of them. |
| 21:22.23 | Barbanus | ckknight, and seriously was bugging me last night... I'm detiremined to find out what it is :P |
| 21:22.25 | Antiarc_ | .....hahah, wow |
| 21:22.35 | Antiarc_ | It's probably 500 instances of a dot virtual frame, isn't it? |
| 21:22.46 | ckknight | Barbanus: figure it out by endpoint titration ;-) |
| 21:22.48 | durcyn | i dunno, i deleted it out of disgust. |
| 21:22.53 | ckknight | disable half your mods and try to reproduce |
| 21:23.05 | Saroz | Is there a mod to compare stats and rating levels with equiped item and selected item? |
| 21:23.10 | Saroz | BTW, someone rewrite rating buster |
| 21:23.12 | Saroz | it makes me cry |
| 21:23.17 | thalie | eqcompare but it's busted |
| 21:23.31 | durcyn | eqcompare is not busted in ctrl-key mode |
| 21:23.32 | kergoth | jtips looked kinda neat, anyone look at that? |
| 21:23.34 | Barbanus | ckknight, yea, I need to figure out how to get in combat and force a pvp world state change :) |
| 21:23.38 | Saroz | that just puts the items next to eachother |
| 21:23.41 | Saroz | not compares stats |
| 21:23.43 | Barbanus | so I can test it reliably |
| 21:23.43 | ckknight | Barbanus: go to WSG |
| 21:23.50 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, I have a patch for closetgnome which will allow multiple WearSet calls to function properly (e.g. WearSet("dps") followed immediately by WearSet("de-aggro")) |
| 21:23.56 | Antiarc_ | <Button name="GuildMapMini1" inherits="GuildMapMiniTemplate" id="1" hidden="false" parent="Minimap" toplevel="true"/> |
| 21:23.58 | Antiarc_ | <Button name="GuildMapMini2" inherits="GuildMapMiniTemplate" id="2" hidden="false" parent="Minimap" toplevel="true"/> |
| 21:23.59 | Antiarc_ | ... |
| 21:24.00 | ckknight | and stay in combat while you or someone picks up/drops the flag |
| 21:24.00 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.02 | Antiarc_ | <Button name="GuildMapMain250" inherits="GuildMapMainTemplate" id="250" parent="WorldMapButton"/> |
| 21:24.03 | ckknight | Antiarc_: ugh. |
| 21:24.06 | durcyn | oh, gotcha. there used to be an old ace mod that would do that... wish i could remember the name |
| 21:24.09 | kenlyric | I guess I don't really need petinfo_fu |
| 21:24.15 | durcyn | ItemCompare, perhaps? |
| 21:24.16 | Antiarc_ | Is GuildMap still maintained? |
| 21:24.16 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: It works just fine now. |
| 21:24.22 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, no try it |
| 21:24.26 | Antiarc_ | And if not, maybe it needs an adoption! |
| 21:24.26 | KarlThePagan | sec |
| 21:24.33 | ckknight | Antiarc_: maybe |
| 21:24.38 | mjc | is there an ace addon that lets you easily move the social frame, spellbook, etc ? |
| 21:24.38 | ckknight | Antiarc_: it could be altered to be efficient |
| 21:24.43 | Antiarc_ | Most definitely. |
| 21:24.45 | mjc | Antiarc_: works for me |
| 21:24.54 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, test case: /script ClosetGnome:WearSet("Dps"); ClosetGnome:WearSet("de-aggro") |
| 21:24.54 | kergoth | Antiarc_: yes, its been redone for ace2 |
| 21:24.57 | Thrae | ckknight: Actually, what might be nice is a version of AceComm which responds to "nicely-formed" requests for data, even if you don't have the same mod as the other person (as long as they both use this version of AceComm). |
| 21:24.57 | ckknight | idea! |
| 21:24.57 | Antiarc_ | I certainly don't need 250 guild frames when I have maybe 30 people on at a time, max. |
| 21:25.00 | durcyn | mjc: not click drag that i'm aware of. visor will let you move frames statically |
| 21:25.04 | kergoth | Antiarc_: the guildmap guy has wowace svn access. |
| 21:25.05 | Antiarc_ | kergoth: I just grabbed that from the wowace/files |
| 21:25.07 | KarlThePagan | my de-aggro items aren't equipped |
| 21:25.11 | kergoth | cool |
| 21:25.12 | Antiarc_ | So I presume it's the latest. |
| 21:25.16 | Antiarc_ | And it needs refactoring. |
| 21:25.18 | mjc | durcyn: yeah I know of visor :) |
| 21:25.20 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Let me see the patch. |
| 21:25.26 | KarlThePagan | pasteying |
| 21:25.35 | RUBiK | anyone know of a fix for wow 2.0 for WhoNote? |
| 21:25.36 | ckknight | have it send out the current information every math.max(5, numGuildMembers/20) seconds. |
| 21:25.39 | KarlThePagan | I'll just pastey the code block vhaarr |
| 21:25.43 | durcyn | there's one for you ckknight, port MovableFrames over :/ |
| 21:25.43 | vhaarr | yes fine |
| 21:25.58 | kergoth | Antiarc_: cant say i'm surprised. it was always a useful addon, but always not as efficient as it could be |
| 21:25.58 | ckknight | MovableFrames? |
| 21:26.05 | durcyn | er mobileframes, was it? that silly cosmos mod that lets you move the default frames |
| 21:26.07 | kergoth | Antiarc_: maybe talk to its dev about it, see if he's open to suggestions |
| 21:26.11 | Antiarc_ | I'll see if I can get ahold of the author and ...yeah |
| 21:26.48 | durcyn | click-dragging should be enabled in the base ui though, or at least toggleable. gah. |
| 21:26.51 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, http://ace.pastey.net/5269 |
| 21:27.04 | KarlThePagan | (by above funciton I mean that code immediately follows ...) |
| 21:27.09 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: diff |
| 21:27.14 | KarlThePagan | k getting diff |
| 21:27.14 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: svn diff -u |
| 21:27.27 | vhaarr | and p8 |
| 21:27.32 | Thrae | ckknight: If we could get people to use that version of AceComm, it would be prolific. I suppose instead of making changes to AceComm, it could just be a mod called something like "Responder". |
| 21:27.33 | vhaarr | at least |
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| 21:27.37 | Antiarc_ | durcyn: What do you mean? |
| 21:27.41 | Antiarc_ | It is...pretty much |
| 21:27.56 | ckknight | Thrae: which version? |
| 21:28.04 | durcyn | Antiarc_: erm, am i missing something obvious then? tell me how to make CharacterFrame move without doing something obtuse. |
| 21:28.07 | Antiarc_ | <OnMouseDown> this:StartMoving() </OnMouseDown><OnMouseUp> this:StopMovingOrSizing()</OnMouseUp> |
| 21:28.15 | Antiarc_ | Just have to add that to the appropriate handlers |
| 21:28.29 | ckknight | Thrae: oh, hrm |
| 21:28.30 | Antiarc_ | Though the character frame is a part of the paneling system, so it's kinda already managed |
| 21:28.37 | ckknight | Thrae: I don't know how'd you'd implement that... |
| 21:28.38 | Thrae | ckknight: Erm, the changes I was talking about. Some type of addon that responds to "nicely-formed" data requests through AceComm, even if you don't have the addon that is requesting. |
| 21:28.49 | durcyn | that's what i meant. those two base display panels don't move. |
| 21:29.16 | ckknight | I dunno |
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| 21:29.24 | Thrae | ckknight: Well it would be handled in the oRA / CTRA way -- "What's your durability", "What's your talent spec", etc. All data that's available to the player, but not to others. |
| 21:29.28 | Antiarc_ | FWIW, I'm working on a frame-moving mod. |
| 21:29.38 | Antiarc_ | It's very young and not worth anything right now, but I am working on one :D |
| 21:29.40 | durcyn | Antiarc_: joy. |
| 21:30.01 | kergoth | Thrae: theres an addon for that |
| 21:30.14 | kergoth | Thrae: its a small addon, modular, that people can install to provide info to people running the full addons |
| 21:30.17 | kergoth | i dont remember waht its called |
| 21:30.19 | RUBiK | anyone know if ag_UF doesn't select a party member as target when clicking their frame (in or out of combat) by design (due to new 2.0 wow code) or is that a bug? |
| 21:30.22 | kergoth | but it was on wowace |
| 21:30.51 | Barbanus | RUBiK, have you updated recently? |
| 21:31.11 | Barbanus | RUBiK, because it worked fine for me last night. |
| 21:31.16 | RUBiK | this was happening with svn version as of 01/17 |
| 21:31.16 | Thrae | kergoth: Well my idea is that you send the information requested, not that you install modules to send information. |
| 21:31.38 | RUBiK | i'll update and check to see if it's still happening later tonight (at work now) |
| 21:31.44 | Thrae | kergoth: It wouldn't be specific. Maybe sent via a silent whisper. |
| 21:32.09 | kergoth | Thrae: well, you're talking about an addon called responder that would to hand back information, thats exactly what the addon i'm talking about did |
| 21:32.09 | Saroz | ckknight, is there anyway to avoid stuff sent to cartographer, which you don't have _* for? For instance, people in my guild sent a ton of vendor locations, but I don't have _vendor, so it shows huge black questionmarks -.- |
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| 21:32.30 | Thrae | Hmm, well I am interested in hearing what this addon is... |
| 21:32.38 | Amadeo | yay, I'm back up to 1GB RAM |
| 21:32.46 | Amadeo | wonder if it'll make any difference |
| 21:32.48 | Diabolic-Destiny | guys i have an AceAddon |
| 21:33.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | which displays itemID |
| 21:33.37 | Diabolic-Destiny | is there an Ace hud mod based off of Drathul hud or Metahud |
| 21:33.45 | Industrial | siamese |
| 21:33.58 | kergoth | Diabolic-Destiny: dont think so. theres icehud though, which is pretty nice |
| 21:34.00 | durcyn | Diabolic-Destiny: check out IceHud or ArcHUD2. |
| 21:34.00 | Industrial | in deadmines from Cookie :D (also got the staff and wand there) |
| 21:34.15 | durcyn | IceHUD is its own design, and ArcHUD2 is based on the old Nurfed HUD from way back when. |
| 21:34.19 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, http://ace.pastey.net/5270 - svn diff -xu |
| 21:34.20 | Thrae | I'd still like the idea of swarming for global databases |
| 21:34.34 | KarlThePagan | wtb "command prompt here" for Windows Vista |
| 21:35.04 | durcyn | KarlThePagan: you can't just add a handler to HKCR\Directory ? |
| 21:35.18 | KarlThePagan | probably durcyn |
| 21:35.24 | KarlThePagan | but I'm lazy |
| 21:35.28 | durcyn | oh, i see. |
| 21:35.30 | KarlThePagan | :P |
| 21:35.51 | KarlThePagan | I haven't even figured out how to tweak Vista's file IO cache... instead I just bought a gig of ram |
| 21:36.07 | KarlThePagan | no more swapping in tbc |
| 21:36.41 | Amadeo | nice |
| 21:36.42 | Antiarc_ | Hahah, ouch. Apparently "Sony Music and Universal Music Group are marking certain artists of theirs as "prohibited" for sharing, meaning that just because you've paid for a song, and even managed to find another Zune user on the planet Earth, doesn't mean you'll necessarily get to beam that JoJo track to another Zune via WiFi magics" |
| 21:36.42 | RUBiK | i guess the fix that ckknight made to aguf early today might fix the "unitframes broken; can't target party members" weirdness i was seeing.. |
| 21:36.59 | Amadeo | Antiarc_: ouch! |
| 21:37.13 | durcyn | well hello there, DRM! |
| 21:37.18 | Amadeo | Speaking of WiFi, Sprint-Nextel decided on WiMax for their network rollout later this year |
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| 21:37.27 | Antiarc_ | "it looks like it's roughly 40-50 percent of artist that fall under this prohibited banner, and the worst news is that there's no warning that a song might be unsharable until you actually try to send it and fail" |
| 21:37.42 | durcyn | may DRM find a nice pleasant corner of hell to burn in for the rest of eternity |
| 21:37.47 | Antiarc_ | hear, hear. |
| 21:38.09 | durcyn | it's to the point where i p2p things i would be more than happy to pay for, just out of pure spite. |
| 21:38.14 | Antiarc_ | Honestly? DRM just incentivizes me to get music that I'd get through legal channels through illegal ones. |
| 21:38.15 | Antiarc_ | Yeah, that. |
| 21:38.37 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, the reason I require this use-case is to keep my outfit stack / toggling as simple as possible - otherwise I need to have knowledge of the contents of the sets |
| 21:39.02 | durcyn | if a movie studio were to encode their content in MPEG4 with nice AC3 audio, and sell me the torrent for $5, i would happily pay. |
| 21:39.07 | Cyrez | I'd like to see parts of MobInfo2 ported to Ace. |
| 21:39.17 | durcyn | Cyrez: MobHealth3? |
| 21:39.22 | Antiarc_ | "The more you tighten your grasp, the more song-buyers will slip through your fingers." |
| 21:39.24 | kenlyric | Antiarc_: yeah, but the music labels don't care about people like you, because you're in the minority. |
| 21:39.31 | Cyrez | Besides that. I know that already. |
| 21:39.35 | durcyn | Antiarc_: you're quoting star wars now, pfeh! |
| 21:39.36 | KarlThePagan | durcyn, have you bought any music from warp records (the aphex twin label) |
| 21:39.48 | KarlThePagan | they put high quality VBR mp3's up online |
| 21:39.51 | KarlThePagan | just pay & download |
| 21:39.53 | durcyn | KarlThePagan: no, i have not paid one red cent for any media in a decade. |
| 21:39.57 | Antiarc_ | I will only buy music through DRM channels if there is a de-DRMer available. |
| 21:39.58 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 21:40.11 | Antiarc_ | Because honestly, losing music I paid for because I didn't jump through enough DRM hoops sucks, |
| 21:40.30 | KarlThePagan | why not durcyn you said "i would happily pay" it seems like warp suits your requirements ;) |
| 21:40.39 | durcyn | i reallly liked the part where microsoft said "Oh, we're not supporting WMP9 DRM anymore. Fuck off." |
| 21:40.42 | Antiarc_ | Buy, un-DRM, and I'm happy. |
| 21:40.51 | Diabolic-Destiny | eww i dun like archud |
| 21:40.53 | durcyn | KarlThePagan: i shall investigate them then, and likely send them cash! |
| 21:40.54 | Diabolic-Destiny | it looks to iuno |
| 21:40.59 | durcyn | Diabolic-Destiny: round? |
| 21:41.02 | Diabolic-Destiny | yes |
| 21:41.02 | Antiarc_ | And you know...I'm not sharing it around. I just want to listen to my crap without having to put in 20 minutes of work to do so. |
| 21:41.09 | durcyn | Diabolic-Destiny: You'll like IceHUD, then. |
| 21:41.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | have you seen Metahud/Drathul hud |
| 21:41.14 | Cyrez | All I care about on top of MobHealth is what mobs drop what and the percentage of the drop and the average coinage not including item value. |
| 21:41.31 | Amadeo | I'm really confused about Bartender keybinding...Bar1 isn't even on the list |
| 21:41.37 | Antiarc_ | I should update ArmorMeter to Ace. |
| 21:41.42 | durcyn | Cyrez: hrm, seems that would take up a lot of space. |
| 21:41.46 | Antiarc_ | I really want to start measuring Outland mobs. |
| 21:41.57 | Antiarc_ | I could even use it to recommend Eviscerate or Envenom! |
| 21:41.59 | Thorgard | Amadeo, bar one is your 'action bar', under the blizzard part of the keybindings |
| 21:42.12 | durcyn | Antiarc_: MobMitigation? |
| 21:42.21 | Antiarc_ | durcyn: Doesn't do the same thing. |
| 21:42.35 | kergoth | Antiarc_: thatd be nice |
| 21:42.37 | Antiarc_ | ArmorMeter calculates a mob's armor in one shot by measuring the reduction of a known-damage attack. |
| 21:42.49 | durcyn | i see. |
| 21:42.50 | kergoth | i want an addon to advise me on envenom, and also rembmer whether the damn mob is immune to stuns or not |
| 21:42.54 | Antiarc_ | For example, I know how much Bloodthirst and Gouge will hit for on a 0-armor target, down to the last point. |
| 21:42.55 | kergoth | cause i'm always forgetting who is |
| 21:43.02 | durcyn | i have no physical damage classes, shrug :< |
| 21:43.05 | Amadeo | Thorgard: Oh I see it, way up there! |
| 21:43.08 | Antiarc_ | I can use that data to get accurate armor data for anything or anyone with one attack. |
| 21:43.17 | Thorgard | ;) |
| 21:43.20 | Antiarc_ | It worked very well pre-2.0. I just haven't updated it. |
| 21:43.43 | Antiarc_ | I could roll that together into a calculator that looked at your Envenom and Evis talents and recommend one or the other. |
| 21:44.04 | Antiarc_ | "Estimated damage for Envenom is X, Evis is Y" |
| 21:44.26 | Cyrez | I like seeing the loot info in the tooltips. I don't need a search thingy or anything all that badly. Maybe just some basic XML export feature or something. |
| 21:44.28 | kergoth | having the poison damage increase talent really seems to make envenom more viable on some mobs |
| 21:44.29 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/news/story.jhtml?id=1550175 |
| 21:44.33 | Diabolic-Destiny | maybe player housees :p |
| 21:44.39 | kergoth | anyone know a good site for rogue theorycrafting? |
| 21:44.41 | Antiarc_ | kergoth: Yeah, I think it's basically required to make Envenom useful. |
| 21:44.48 | Antiarc_ | kergoth: forums.elitistjerks.com :D |
| 21:45.08 | Antiarc_ | Or you can ask me, I tend to be a little obsessive about rogue theorycraft. :d |
| 21:47.02 | KarlThePagan | crap... now I need to fix swapmagic |
| 21:47.49 | KarlThePagan | and by "fix" i mean add another feature from outfitter that I miss :( (swapping in/out bank items) |
| 21:48.00 | Gagorian | What's the buff called when a faction controls all three towers in hellfire peninsula? |
| 21:48.15 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Should the queuedSet-in-combat stuff be batched as well? Also, don't pass self in to the local functions, just call ClosetGnome: inside them. |
| 21:48.28 | Kemayo | KarlThePagan: Has someone made SwapMagic work with dual-wield yet? |
| 21:48.51 | Kemayo | (This was a totally random question, I grant.) |
| 21:48.58 | RUBiK | what do you kids use these days for exporting a list of all people in a guild (with their notes, etc.)? |
| 21:49.00 | kergoth | Thrae: it was sylvanaar's addon i was thinking of - http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2896.0 |
| 21:49.14 | KarlThePagan | If I fiddle with it I'll test that on my 22 rogue Kemayo |
| 21:50.01 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, holding all the items you need to equip in a batch until combat drops? yes IMO |
| 21:50.14 | KarlThePagan | and thx on the CG tips / fixes |
| 21:50.35 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: In any case, I don't like the implementation. |
| 21:50.38 | durcyn | Gagorian: Hellfire Superiority ranks 1, 2, and 3 |
| 21:50.57 | KarlThePagan | ok I just want it to work :) |
| 21:51.15 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: I want it done on a generic level, without the delay parameter. Register for ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED and when it fires, trigger a ScheduleEvent with 0.2sec delay that re-registers on every event, and when it fires, do the next batch. |
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| 21:51.39 | kergoth | sylvanaar: what ever happened to interview? |
| 21:51.46 | Kemayo | durcyn: I've only ever seen rank 3. |
| 21:51.47 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Set a boolean flag, and if, in WearSet, that flag is true, add the set to a table, if not, set it to true. And in that scheduled event, clear the boolean flag. |
| 21:51.51 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: That's the real fix. |
| 21:52.03 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, I don't like the performance implications of that solution... not one bit |
| 21:52.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | ew sorry i dun like icehud either |
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| 21:52.21 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Well, that's the real solution. |
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| 21:52.38 | Diabolic-Destiny | http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/news/story.jhtml?id=1550175 ne 1 able to access this? |
| 21:52.51 | thalie | yep |
| 21:52.56 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, will that prevent unneccessary item equips/unequips? |
| 21:53.01 | _neuron_ | yeah it works |
| 21:53.18 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: How can it do that? |
| 21:53.18 | KarlThePagan | for example healing set, 42-yard (pulling) set, de-aggro set, mana-recovery set |
| 21:53.26 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: No, of course it won't. |
| 21:53.40 | vhaarr | It can, though. |
| 21:53.46 | KarlThePagan | it should for my use-case |
| 21:53.54 | vhaarr | well your patch doesn't do that either |
| 21:53.57 | vhaarr | and I don't want that in core |
| 21:54.02 | vhaarr | just make a 3rd party module |
| 21:54.05 | vhaarr | that hooks WearSet |
| 21:54.18 | vhaarr | and make ReallyWearSet a object method, I don't care |
| 21:54.21 | vhaarr | if you need to |
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| 21:54.48 | KarlThePagan | vhaarr, my implementation does... it won't actually make any wow api calls until the compound (batch) set is calculated |
| 21:54.58 | KarlThePagan | so no item pickups and drops |
| 21:55.07 | KarlThePagan | s/no item/no extra item/ |
| 21:55.27 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: ah |
| 21:55.50 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: I'm sorry, I didn't actually *read* the patch, I just read the word "batch" and thought I knew what it was doing. |
| 21:55.51 | KarlThePagan | that's what i want to avoid... outfitter kinda sucks for it... it can't even unequip a set in the middle of the stack |
| 21:56.02 | KarlThePagan | ah |
| 21:56.03 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Obviously I get it now, hang on. |
| 21:56.06 | KarlThePagan | np |
| 21:56.30 | KarlThePagan | yea the use of a batch for out-of-combat stuff is valid but yea this is only for calculating a compound / stack-based set |
| 21:57.21 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Could it be done with a table instead? |
| 21:57.36 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: ClosetGnome:WearSet({"FirstSet", "SecondSet"}) |
| 21:57.42 | KarlThePagan | or varargs even |
| 21:57.47 | vhaarr | yes |
| 21:57.48 | KarlThePagan | that would be sexy |
| 21:57.49 | vhaarr | whatever |
| 21:57.51 | vhaarr | right |
| 21:57.53 | vhaarr | implement! |
| 21:57.55 | KarlThePagan | yea I'm ok with varargs |
| 21:57.57 | KarlThePagan | ok |
| 21:58.11 | vhaarr | .. but don't check in until I've approved the patch :P |
| 21:58.22 | KarlThePagan | yea... I think you locked the CG dir anyways :P |
| 21:58.26 | KarlThePagan | wouldn't let me checkout |
| 21:58.28 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 21:58.44 | KarlThePagan | used svn. insetad of dev. |
| 21:58.54 | vhaarr | I didn't |
| 21:59.08 | KarlThePagan | oh ... well crap I need to make sure my password is still valid :D |
| 21:59.22 | nymbia | gotta reenter it |
| 22:00.05 | Diabolic-Destiny | can someone find another source for this article http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/news/story.jhtml?id=1550175 |
| 22:00.12 | Diabolic-Destiny | i cant get it to open |
| 22:02.19 | KarlThePagan | wow that's an obscene amount of flash |
| 22:02.41 | pastamancer | would you expect anything less from mtv? |
| 22:03.16 | thalie | by flash, you mean trash right karl? |
| 22:03.22 | KarlThePagan | Diabolic-Destiny, :( http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=warcraft+Totilo&btnG=Search |
| 22:03.25 | KarlThePagan | only mtv.com |
| 22:03.36 | KarlThePagan | thalie, in this case |
| 22:05.00 | Amadeo | I like this quote on OSNews.com - "With the imminent release of Windows Vista to consumers this month, Linus Torvalds, the father of Linux, has claimed Microsoft's latest desktop effort is over-hyped and not a revolutionary advancement." |
| 22:05.16 | Amadeo | What's he supposed to say? "Oh man, Vista rocks so much that it makes Linux look lame!!" |
| 22:05.22 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:05.51 | Amadeo | Not to say he isn't right, but that's just funny to me :) |
| 22:05.56 | Ominous | what do u guys think of vista? |
| 22:06.09 | Amadeo | Evolutionary upgrade |
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| 22:06.29 | thalie | saw that on digg :) hehe |
| 22:06.42 | kenlyric | Evolution implies improvement. |
| 22:06.49 | kenlyric | it's XP with a new overcoat on. |
| 22:07.12 | Amadeo | Well, it's more than that |
| 22:07.20 | durcyn | no, xp was the overcoat. vista is a straightjacket and manacles. |
| 22:07.31 | kenlyric | yeah yeah... "security" that users will ignore and make them completely immune to warning boxes. |
| 22:07.45 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:07.45 | kenlyric | "let's pop up an authentication screen when the user changes their desktop background!" |
| 22:07.54 | durcyn | it's not the security features you should be worried about, it's the |
| 22:07.57 | durcyn | content protection crap |
| 22:07.59 | Amadeo | Either way, it's just an evolutionary upgrade...nothing that should have warranted 5+ years of work |
| 22:08.14 | Harshmage | Vista is a complete rewrite. Yes, it might look a little like XP, but it's new machine code. |
| 22:08.33 | Amadeo | That said, I still find it hard to replace Windows...the only true competitor for its market is OS X, and not everyone has a Mac |
| 22:08.51 | durcyn | when your operating system degrades your video signal to VGA quality because you aren't using a blessed video card or monitor or sound card that supports DRM, something is very very wrong |
| 22:09.06 | _neuron_ | Harshmage, ... no it's not, it started as a complete rewrite in .NET, but they never got remotely close to finishing that (it was killed off for performance reasons) |
| 22:09.07 | Harshmage | Yeah....and OS X is so much better. Can't wait for 10.5 |
| 22:09.13 | kenlyric | durcyn: why? your VHS player did that. |
| 22:09.16 | durcyn | microsoft didn't write Vista, hollywood did. |
| 22:09.22 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:09.40 | durcyn | kenlyric: hrm? macrovision was after the fact, and just as evil. |
| 22:10.00 | KarlThePagan | Ominous, incomplete bluetooth support... my vendor (dell) sucks at updating their drivers... I see many tears ahead regarding drivers |
| 22:10.09 | KarlThePagan | <-- running vista for a few months now |
| 22:10.12 | kenlyric | evil, sure, but also not unexpected. |
| 22:10.33 | durcyn | the really funny part of vista is going to be the tilt bit |
| 22:10.39 | Harshmage | meh, all I know is, I'm not authorizing Vista on my campus till the first service pack. |
| 22:10.39 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 22:10.51 | durcyn | protected media gets instantly degraded if the hardware thinks it's being tampered with at all |
| 22:11.39 | KarlThePagan | durcyn, so you're saying alcohol 120... isn't going to work :P |
| 22:11.43 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 22:13.02 | Amadeo | Hype exists everywhere though |
| 22:13.08 | durcyn | KarlThePagan: i'm saying that microsoft is going to break your system if you try to decode or capture protected media content in a disallowed manner |
| 22:13.30 | Amadeo | Every Apple release is a huge hype-fest, Ubuntu is filled with hype, Vista is hyped |
| 22:13.39 | KarlThePagan | gentoo is hyped |
| 22:13.45 | KarlThePagan | gentoo is the new slackware |
| 22:13.55 | Amadeo | Slackware's the new Mandrake |
| 22:13.58 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 22:14.01 | Amadeo | 6 CDs |
| 22:14.02 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:14.18 | durcyn | google "vista suicide note" for giggles. |
| 22:15.04 | KarlThePagan | I'm tired of all the abandonware linux distros |
| 22:15.23 | KarlThePagan | eventually the authors move on / get a job / graduate and then noone wants to maintain it anymore |
| 22:15.44 | Amadeo | I don't see why there needs to be a million distributions to begin with |
| 22:15.57 | Amadeo | imagine if they all focused on just a handful |
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| 22:17.02 | KarlThePagan | I could see room for 4-6 |
| 22:17.29 | Amadeo | I mean, does there really need to be an Ubuntu Christian Edition? |
| 22:17.35 | thalie | yes |
| 22:17.42 | thalie | jk |
| 22:17.42 | Amadeo | Can't Christians just put their own software on Ubuntu? |
| 22:17.48 | thalie | hehe |
| 22:17.54 | trh_ | Amadeo: at least then they wont use our good ubuntu :P |
| 22:18.04 | KarlThePagan | Amadeo, it's like the debian policy... but WRT porn ... kek |
| 22:18.08 | Amadeo | I have nothing against peoples beliefs, it's just a little silly how many distributions there are |
| 22:18.40 | trh_ | Amadeo: thats true... one of the disadvantages of open source, it can also be a advantage, but for the user its usually a disadvantage |
| 22:19.11 | Amadeo | I agree, the openness of Linux is great, but it's also holding it back |
| 22:20.09 | KarlThePagan | free software and usable software are in conflict WRT their core philosophies |
| 22:20.19 | KarlThePagan | users pay for service (aka usability) |
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| 22:28.10 | Barbanus | OMG PAY FOR SOFTWARE? |
| 22:28.11 | Barbanus | Never! |
| 22:29.14 | OvrLrd-Q | that's why blizzard doesn't get my money every month! |
| 22:29.25 | Barbanus | I hacked the servers |
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| 22:31.42 | Antiarc_ | Uhhhhh. |
| 22:31.43 | Antiarc_ | http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=38449 |
| 22:34.15 | Barbanus | wtf is that? |
| 22:34.28 | Antiarc_ | Hell if I know. |
| 22:34.44 | Barbanus | Kaelten, whats the good news? |
| 22:35.03 | ckknight | Barbanus: He is risen. |
| 22:35.12 | KarlThePagan | get the lions |
| 22:36.14 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc_, comment makes me think it's an effect on an NPC |
| 22:36.27 | Antiarc_ | I would agree, but man, that'll be ugly to contend with. |
| 22:36.53 | KarlThePagan | I'm sure it's totally situational... and DISPELLABLE BUR |
| 22:37.19 | KarlThePagan | lol in fact I hope mages start stealing whatever that is... then I'll make them cry when it goes poof |
| 22:37.25 | KarlThePagan | mass dispell FTW |
| 22:37.51 | sylvanaar | cool i finally put the servername module into prat any ideas on how to color server names? |
| 22:38.09 | KarlThePagan | RP == pink? |
| 22:38.10 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 22:39.06 | ZealotOnAStick | randomly. |
| 22:39.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Give them random colors from a pool of like 2048 or something. |
| 22:39.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Just to fuck with people. |
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| 22:40.31 | ckknight | sylvanaar: PvP = Red, Normal = Yellow, RPPvP = Yellow, RP = Green |
| 22:41.23 | ckknight | alternatively, if you want unique server names (I bet you do), you should make an algorithm |
| 22:41.35 | ckknight | that makes it so one string always goes to a certain color |
| 22:41.45 | ckknight | with enough colors, you shouldn't have too bad of a hashing issue |
| 22:41.56 | ZealotOnAStick | nah, PvE = blue. The rest ck said is good. |
| 22:42.24 | ckknight | there's a hash generation algorithm in AceComm |
| 22:42.25 | ckknight | use that |
| 22:42.39 | ckknight | and then do hash % #colors |
| 22:42.49 | ckknight | and then do colors[hash % #colors] |
| 22:42.51 | ckknight | tada. |
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| 22:43.03 | ckknight | you have a proper semi-unique color per server |
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| 22:43.39 | NeoTron | assuming it's for battleground chatting? |
| 22:43.51 | ckknight | eya |
| 22:43.52 | ckknight | yea* |
| 22:44.02 | NeoTron | you might get duplicates using a simple hashing method even with lots of colors |
| 22:44.07 | NeoTron | somethnig to think about |
| 22:44.27 | ckknight | NeoTron: possible, but it's less likely and better than random pickings. |
| 22:44.44 | ckknight | either way |
| 22:44.59 | Barbanus | I think PvE should be pink |
| 22:45.00 | NeoTron | can randomly assigned colors and keep the assignments in a saved variable if you want consistency |
| 22:45.05 | Barbanus | and RPPvE = purple |
| 22:45.07 | Barbanus | thats all I know |
| 22:45.14 | ckknight | NeoTron: that's icky and unnecessary, imho |
| 22:46.11 | NeoTron | perhaps yes |
| 22:46.20 | NeoTron | I don't know what the intended use for the colors is |
| 22:46.54 | Barbanus | color the server name in BG chat |
| 22:47.27 | ckknight | I would prefer one server to have a consistent color across sessions |
| 22:47.36 | ckknight | I think hashing is the best solution, imo |
| 22:47.52 | beerke | dont forget RPPVE |
| 22:47.55 | Barbanus | You could also build an algorithm that colors them alphabetically around the color wheel :) |
| 22:49.33 | ckknight | Barbanus: same idea as the hashing, only hashing will work when more servers are added |
| 22:49.52 | Thrae | Hashing brings the Hashish down on your head! |
| 22:51.51 | KarlThePagan | http://www.nightelfcollective.com/forums/images/avatars/189239560645b01c1535b21.gif |
| 22:52.40 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: what is that? |
| 22:52.47 | ckknight | I see a dwarf moving back and forth |
| 22:52.48 | KarlThePagan | my forum avatar |
| 22:52.53 | KarlThePagan | on a mechanostrider |
| 22:53.19 | KarlThePagan | it's how wow model viewer renders mounteds... slightly broken but comical |
| 22:53.45 | Saroz | anyone know a good util for applying patches on windows |
| 22:54.14 | Thrae | Saroz: Worm.NZ32.exe. Looks harmful, but it's a great program! Really! |
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| 22:54.45 | Saroz | funnah |
| 22:55.19 | Kaelten | g'mornin |
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| 22:55.53 | ravagernl | people, does anyone know where I can download this aguf layout? http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/full3380_20061124.jpg |
| 22:56.25 | OvrLrd-Q | xdelta works Saroz |
| 22:58.11 | Xuerian | Those are Nurfed, aren't they? |
| 22:58.20 | tale | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.20 | ravagernl | hmm, dont think so |
| 22:58.34 | ravagernl | I think theyre aguf, there are 4 fields |
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| 23:04.49 | Amadeo | I've seen that layout for Nurfed |
| 23:05.32 | Amadeo | In fact, that's practically the only layout Nurfed has |
| 23:05.35 | Amadeo | 30 versions of that |
| 23:07.34 | Barbanus | rofl |
| 23:07.46 | Harshmage | is there a character limit for our ~ purl commands? Like a limit of 8? ~xxxxxxxx? |
| 23:08.03 | Amadeo | Barbanus: It's only funny because it's true! |
| 23:09.15 | ckknight | Harshmage: don't think so |
| 23:09.58 | kergoth | Harshmage, no |
| 23:10.07 | kergoth | i myself know of some factoids that are sentences. |
| 23:10.24 | Kadish | heya Barbanus |
| 23:11.07 | Kadish | ever figure out what was happening with the taint? |
| 23:11.07 | Barbanus | Kadish, hey |
| 23:11.07 | kergoth | and it isnt "our". purl is one instance of a bot thats in like 80 channels |
| 23:11.07 | Barbanus | Kadish, nope, ckknight looked at it too ... |
| 23:11.08 | Kadish | ugh |
| 23:11.08 | ckknight | Kadish: I think I solved some problems |
| 23:11.09 | ckknight | not all |
| 23:11.16 | Barbanus | Kadish, but what I can tell you is that its a world pvp state change while in combat that triggers it |
| 23:11.24 | Kadish | ah |
| 23:11.28 | Kadish | that does help |
| 23:11.33 | Kadish | also, does anyone know who is in charge of wowaceupdater? |
| 23:11.48 | Barbanus | #wau :) |
| 23:11.50 | Harshmage | Thanks CK and Ker |
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| 23:13.05 | Barbanus | ckknight, what does that mean? :) Whats left to fix? |
| 23:13.20 | odt | first lvl70 in my guild |
| 23:13.24 | ckknight | if you're in combat and a world PvP event happens, it fucks up |
| 23:13.28 | ckknight | I already told you. |
| 23:13.33 | odt | and my pala is only 32... |
| 23:14.07 | Barbanus | ckknight, yea I knew that part :( |
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| 23:14.23 | Barbanus | I'll play addon wack-a-mole tomorrow I guess |
| 23:14.40 | ckknight | Barbanus: my guess is that it lies in agUF or FuBar |
| 23:14.47 | ckknight | maybe disable agUF and try to reproduce |
| 23:15.05 | Barbanus | Kadish doesnt use agUF |
| 23:15.10 | Barbanus | and has the same issue |
| 23:15.19 | Barbanus | he also doesnt use Fubar |
| 23:15.41 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:15.43 | ckknight | wtf, then? |
| 23:15.47 | ckknight | lemme post my addon list |
| 23:16.32 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/5278 |
| 23:16.40 | ckknight | also, is he sure it's the _same_ error? |
| 23:16.44 | ckknight | brb |
| 23:16.44 | kergoth | Barbanus, try out tem's overlord. in game addon manager that lets you select a group of addons and enable/disable them. could use that to do a binary search for the problem |
| 23:16.58 | Amadeo | ckknight: What's OneBagSorter? |
| 23:16.59 | ckknight | kergoth: better than MCP? |
| 23:17.03 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:17.06 | ckknight | Amadeo: ah, deprecated |
| 23:17.08 | ckknight | need to delete |
| 23:17.10 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 23:17.16 | kergoth | click on an addon, shift click on another one farther down, those and hte ones between them are selected |
| 23:17.19 | kergoth | now hit disable |
| 23:17.20 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 23:17.22 | Tem | Warning: it's VERY alpha |
| 23:17.34 | Amadeo | ckknight: No MrPlow? :) |
| 23:17.38 | kergoth | hehe, i'm sure theres a good reason why it hasnt been released or marketed :) |
| 23:17.51 | kergoth | profiles dont seem to work, for example, but to at least implement the binary search it should do fine |
| 23:18.05 | Tem | kergoth, profiles are the only reason I wrote it |
| 23:18.09 | Tem | so they better work |
| 23:18.36 | Barbanus | ckknight, http://ace.pastebin.ca/321203 |
| 23:18.38 | kergoth | hmm, didnt here.. i disabled all addons but one in the new profile i created, reloaded, went back to default and it didnt change anything, still the same addons as in the new one i created |
| 23:18.44 | Barbanus | thats the ones that me and Kadish share |
| 23:18.48 | kergoth | unless i need to make two profiles? default doesnt behave like a normal one? |
| 23:18.53 | Barbanus | and yes, exact same error |
| 23:19.10 | ravagernl | ckknight whats the .sh scripts? |
| 23:20.37 | Barbanus | ckknight, the only ones that we ALL share are: !BugGrabber, BugSack, Cartographer, Cart Modules, MobHealth, Postal, Prat |
| 23:20.48 | Barbanus | But I guess it could also be a shared lib somewhere |
| 23:22.10 | ckknight | could be a shared lib. |
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| 23:22.19 | ckknight | don't think it's Cart. |
| 23:22.29 | Barbanus | I wouldn't think so either |
| 23:22.34 | Antiarc_ | Are we talking about the massive tainting errors in combat? |
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| 23:22.41 | Barbanus | Antiarc_, yes. |
| 23:22.48 | Antiarc_ | If you figure it out, please let me know :( |
| 23:22.50 | Antiarc_ | It's driving me up the wall. |
| 23:22.54 | Barbanus | The Whatever:SetPoint() one |
| 23:22.59 | Antiarc_ | Yeah, that's it. |
| 23:23.04 | Barbanus | (I'm not at home, I don't have the exact error) |
| 23:23.06 | ckknight | there's more than one thing that causes that. |
| 23:23.12 | nae|lap | Ah, I have that too |
| 23:23.19 | nae|lap | for me it mentions Fubar |
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| 23:24.43 | nae|lap | and I have all those addons Barbanus mentioned apart from MobHealth |
| 23:25.13 | snurre | ding 70 |
| 23:25.52 | Antiarc_ | I use all of them except Postal |
| 23:26.44 | KarlThePagan | heh... i had to look up repeat blocks |
| 23:26.47 | Amadeo | How is Postal? |
| 23:26.55 | Amadeo | I forgot about it |
| 23:27.40 | Barbanus | Its pretty good |
| 23:28.18 | KarlThePagan | ctmm replacement yet? |
| 23:28.22 | KarlThePagan | i.e. old gmail |
| 23:28.27 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: Postal |
| 23:28.39 | KarlThePagan | yea i'm asking is it there yet? all features? |
| 23:28.55 | KarlThePagan | mass return/open/etc |
| 23:29.55 | Koaschten | wow, there just crashed a whole eu-realmpool |
| 23:30.10 | Diabolic-Destiny | anyone know where i can find 98 football footage? |
| 23:30.18 | OvrLrd-Q | mass open, and send yes, dont remember about return, but I'd assume so |
| 23:30.39 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, new goal... replace itemrack / outfitter this weekend |
| 23:30.49 | ckknight | no |
| 23:30.52 | ckknight | I don't care about that. |
| 23:30.52 | Antiarc_ | ClosetGnome + SwapMagic? |
| 23:30.55 | KarlThePagan | heh i'll do it |
| 23:30.56 | Diabolic-Destiny | woot replace ITEMRACK |
| 23:31.03 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc_, sadly not yet... i'm workin on it |
| 23:31.05 | ckknight | I want to do something with comm |
| 23:31.06 | ckknight | I already said |
| 23:31.13 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, sorry i meant me ;D |
| 23:31.13 | Diabolic-Destiny | isnt itemrack and outfitter the same |
| 23:31.20 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: ah, okay |
| 23:31.21 | Diabolic-Destiny | jus diff addons |
| 23:31.29 | KarlThePagan | Diabolic-Destiny, outfitter is broken in tbc |
| 23:31.32 | Koaschten | itemrack doesnt get updated AND is tainted |
| 23:31.36 | KarlThePagan | new items ?? wuts this? |
| 23:31.39 | Koaschten | reason to use closetgnome |
| 23:31.42 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 23:31.57 | Diabolic-Destiny | i jus use item rack for quick swap via hotkey |
| 23:32.07 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: You could do an encrypted comms layer. |
| 23:32.09 | KarlThePagan | i'm working on just one little core CG change that will make outfit toggles work nicely |
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| 23:32.15 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc_, wtf why? |
| 23:32.20 | Antiarc_ | Might be useful for exchanging data in a public channel. I dunno. |
| 23:32.26 | Antiarc_ | Better answer: "For the hell of it" |
| 23:32.27 | KarlThePagan | heheh |
| 23:32.34 | KarlThePagan | ok that i'll agree |
| 23:32.35 | snurre | http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/788/ding70za0.jpg |
| 23:32.39 | ckknight | Antiarc_: I don't see a point. |
| 23:32.51 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: I don't really, either, but it'd be a fun technical exercuse. |
| 23:32.59 | Antiarc_ | s/exercuse/exercise/ |
| 23:33.35 | ckknight | I think focusing on a transparent shared network database would be better... |
| 23:33.45 | Antiarc_ | Yay! |
| 23:33.46 | KarlThePagan | it would be awesome... if you could encrypt a message and sell it on the AH |
| 23:33.57 | KarlThePagan | COVERT CROSS FACTION COMMUNICATIONS! |
| 23:34.04 | KarlThePagan | lawl |
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| 23:34.24 | Antiarc_ | KarlThePagan: And only slightly slower than exiting WoW, driving across the country to see the Horde you want to talk, to, talking to them, and driving back! |
| 23:34.26 | KarlThePagan | "Zeth sucks! Sincerely, Basic" |
| 23:34.30 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: forums would probably be better |
| 23:34.34 | KarlThePagan | lol yea |
| 23:34.35 | Antiarc_ | Actually, that makes me wonder - |
| 23:34.45 | KarlThePagan | yea i haven't tried to sell a letter copy |
| 23:34.58 | Antiarc_ | If you write a letter to someone, they save it as a Plain Letter, put it on a neutral AH, opposite faction picks it up, can they read it? |
| 23:35.12 | KarlThePagan | or will it be all "bur rega grom" |
| 23:35.54 | ckknight | Antiarc_: I think it's soulbound |
| 23:35.57 | Koaschten | isnt it soulbound? |
| 23:36.04 | Antiarc_ | If it is, that's a recent change. |
| 23:36.07 | nae|lap | yup, soulbound |
| 23:36.08 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 23:36.23 | Antiarc_ | I remember seeing Plain Letters on the AH relatively recently. |
| 23:36.53 | Antiarc_ | I'm not sure that's exactly a huge communications hole anyway. |
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| 23:37.08 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 23:37.25 | doktoreas | is Bigwigs update to TBC istance like furnace? |
| 23:37.40 | nymbia | bigwigs is for raids |
| 23:37.48 | nymbia | not 5-man stuff |
| 23:37.58 | doktoreas | is there any addon for 5 man stuff? |
| 23:38.02 | Diabolic-Destiny | is battleground_fu fixed |
| 23:38.06 | Antiarc_ | Someone should write Smallwigs for 5-man instances. |
| 23:38.06 | Diabolic-Destiny | or does it still cause errors |
| 23:38.12 | nymbia | why would you need alerts for furnace? |
| 23:38.23 | doktoreas | just asking |
| 23:38.25 | doktoreas | :D |
| 23:38.28 | Antiarc_ | *** DO NOT STAND IN THE POISON CLOUD *** |
| 23:38.39 | Barbanus | lol |
| 23:38.55 | Antiarc_ | *** IF THE BOSS SAYS "COME CLOSER", DO NOT. IT IS A TRICK. *** |
| 23:39.29 | Antiarc_ | Obviously a critical piece of info for coordinating a 5-man team to enable them to conquer the encounter. |
| 23:39.34 | Koaschten | there is already auchindoun implemented in BW |
| 23:39.35 | Koaschten | i think |
| 23:39.44 | Koaschten | at least i saw some warnings ;) |
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| 23:40.37 | pogotribal | l |
| 23:40.43 | pogotribal | am I here |
| 23:40.49 | Antiarc_ | no |
| 23:41.03 | dalvarez | hm |
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| 23:42.12 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: I am trying to think of comms apps, but I can't think of anything else. |
| 23:42.13 | Leaf_Archimonde | Hello. Any add-on's already that assist 'prospecting'? (a new jevelcrafting skill) |
| 23:42.32 | ckknight | Antiarc_: GEM thing. |
| 23:42.36 | ckknight | how is Combine coming? |
| 23:42.39 | ckknight | is it coming at all? |
| 23:42.47 | Antiarc_ | Combine? |
| 23:43.08 | Xuerian | Frahmwerkses. |
| 23:43.24 | Antiarc_ | And a GEM sort of app would mostly rely on the shared DB, which is the real trick in an app like that. |
| 23:44.19 | ckknight | right |
| 23:44.34 | ckknight | and I think working on a shared DB system would be useful for many guild-related databases |
| 23:44.39 | Barbanus | Kadish, do you have the exact blocked error handy? |
| 23:44.39 | Antiarc_ | Completely agree. |
| 23:44.44 | ckknight | e.g. |
| 23:44.49 | ckknight | I made a medals system for my old guild |
| 23:44.54 | ckknight | stored their status in their guild note |
| 23:44.57 | ckknight | hackish system |
| 23:45.06 | Antiarc_ | Tradeskills and recipes known would be amazing. |
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| 23:45.07 | ckknight | would've been nicer if it were in a shared db format |
| 23:45.16 | ckknight | also a good one |
| 23:45.26 | Antiarc_ | Better yet - you could extend it so it polls people you group/raid with. |
| 23:45.44 | ckknight | frankly, I don't think so for the first version. |
| 23:45.54 | Antiarc_ | No, but I tend to think towards new features quickly :) |
| 23:45.59 | odt | anyon know where in orgri the darkspear cloth quartermaster is? |
| 23:46.11 | Mikma | anyone else noticed that agUF ain't working well with partymembers |
| 23:46.32 | ckknight | I think basically, you have a database registration, which polls out every so often and whenever it's updated a message is sent out stating a new version is created |
| 23:46.41 | ckknight | problems arise when you have different branches. |
| 23:46.45 | Antiarc_ | ckknight: Possible comms app - notify you of which guildmembers you have quests in common with. |
| 23:47.02 | ckknight | interesting |
| 23:47.11 | Antiarc_ | Especially useful with TBC out. |
| 23:47.19 | Antiarc_ | Maybe a guild LFG system, as well. |
| 23:47.44 | ckknight | I'm just thinking about the shared database system. |
| 23:47.52 | ckknight | maybe I should look into how GEM does it/did it |
| 23:48.51 | ckknight | gonna go get lunch |
| 23:49.36 | Thorgard | ckknight, is there any way to get Cartographer's 'Look 'n Feel' tooltip scale to actually apply to notes/herbs/veins on the map? |
| 23:49.44 | Thorgard | Right now it only seems to scale player names. |
| 23:49.52 | ckknight | odd |
| 23:49.55 | ckknight | it should scale the notes. |
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| 23:55.21 | Thrae | Hmmm, I wonder if I can get the WoW Client Installer off the Internets. |
| 23:55.31 | Thrae | One of my original WoW CDs are bad =/ |
| 23:56.03 | art3mis | 11. World of Warcraft: The Burning Sensation When I Pee |
| 23:56.03 | art3mis | 10. World of Warcraft: Full on Rogues |
| 23:56.04 | art3mis | 9. World of Warcraft: Your Life? I Don't Think So: Platinum Edition |
| 23:56.04 | art3mis | 8. World of Warcraft: More Epics You'll Never Have |
| 23:56.04 | art3mis | 7. World of Warcraft: So You Thought Getting to 60 Was Tedious? |
| 23:56.04 | art3mis | 6. World of Warcraft: The Gay Night Elf Hunter Saga |
| 23:56.06 | art3mis | 5. World of Warcraft: Grinder's Dreamland |
| 23:56.08 | art3mis | 4. World of Warcraft: Assimilation Complete |
| 23:56.10 | art3mis | 3. World of Warcraft: You'd Be Better Off Taking Up Heroin |
| 23:56.12 | art3mis | 2. World of Warcraft: Revenge of the Shaman |
| 23:56.14 | art3mis | 1. World of Warcraft: The One Where You Don't Sleep for a Week |
| 23:56.16 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.22 | art3mis | ^^---- rejected Burning Crusade names |
| 23:56.46 | art3mis | bbspot is on a roll today |
| 23:56.51 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/01/world-of-warcraft-downtime.html |
| 23:56.54 | Antiarc_ | Those are all kinda lame, really. Except the last one. |
| 23:56.58 | Antiarc_ | That one's just true. |
| 23:57.02 | kenlyric | art3mis: Full on Rogues is my favorite |
| 23:57.26 | snurre | wee, took <30mins after ding for the first "summon pls" tell :p |
| 23:57.49 | NightHawkTheSane | number 6 amuses me, because me and a couple friends made 3 identical (and totaly gay loooking, no offense) belf hunters for kicks... |
| 23:58.02 | Kadish | There is a guild on Wildhammer called It Burns when I Crusade |
| 23:58.07 | Kadish | I loled |
| 23:59.18 | art3mis | http://www.pajarita.org/aep/internacionales/intern2-1.pdf <-- orgami yado |
| 23:59.21 | art3mis | err yoda |
| 23:59.49 | Tain | Not only were they lame, it was a bit too much spam in the channel at once. |
