irclog2html for #wowace on 20070115

00:00.06EyeOfHell*not use = not clear
00:00.06cynyrxlvii: hey, it's not as bad as.. "ohh shit that mage is casting a fireball, /vanish and step sidways" and still getting hit by it
00:00.08LePeR|Jaunialol i had my imp follow a stealthed druid around for like 10 mins earlier
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00:01.01cynyrEyeOfHell: you meant s/feature/bug/
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00:01.28trhThorgard: still green :(
00:01.33cynyrstealth == broken as all......(fill in the blank)
00:01.56Thorgardtrh, give me the image. ;P
00:02.21CIA-1703nymbia * r25187 10Stitch-1.0/ (LGPLv2.1.txt Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua Stitch-1.0.toc): Stitch-1.0: some LGPL fun
00:02.33cynyrxlvii: and btw it is "working as intented" according to blue on the forums
00:03.16trhThorgard: http://trh.ath.cx/~trh/Sync.tga
00:03.45Thorgardtrh, what turns green?
00:04.14trhThorgard: the whole spot where the image should be.. if i use a different image (one of another addon) it works
00:04.27ckknightand undead done...
00:04.32CIA-1703sayclub * r25188 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
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00:04.35kenlyric|homeis it a known bug where fubar is throwing addon_action_blocked errors when you die?
00:04.55CIA-1703nymbia * r25189 10StitchUI/ (GPLv2.txt StitchUI.lua StitchUI.toc): StitchUI: License
00:05.21kenlyric|homehmmmm... looks like it might be in durabilityfu instead.
00:05.53ckknightI could change the BE's class, would a mage or priest be better than a pally for roleplaying?
00:06.17[dRaCo]everything's better than a horde paladin.
00:06.41[dRaCo]be mage sounds like fun, though.
00:06.56ckknightyou ever play the Horde Paladin? the lore and everything is great
00:07.19nymbiabut there's gonna be 8 billion of em everywhere
00:07.22[dRaCo]I dont like paladins.
00:07.25[dRaCo]not at all.
00:07.44ThraeBlood Elf Hunters. *shudders*
00:07.59[dRaCo]and I'm on a RP realm, so neither does my char ;)
00:07.59nymbiarofl
00:08.37ckknightI got both a BE hunter and a BE pally to lvl 20
00:08.52Thraeckknight: Did you name him "Regoras"? :D
00:08.59ckknightno
00:09.02ckknightCkknight
00:09.05ckknightamazing, eh?
00:09.14[dRaCo]totally.
00:09.18ThraeYour naming skills are indeed profound.
00:09.19[dRaCo]creative as hell.
00:09.23nymbiahaha
00:09.26PogoTriballol
00:09.28Dranora guildie is going his be pala "loladin"
00:09.46Dranorwe told him that we're not going to /ginvite "that"
00:09.57kenlyric|homeit's against my better judgement, but my BE will probably be a paladin, if for no other reason than I figure they've put a lot of work into crossing those classes over to the other faction.
00:10.22[dRaCo]I liked the old way.
00:10.28kenlyric|homemy be paladin's name is going to be 'Prettiest"
00:10.32[dRaCo]the horde doesnt need paladins.
00:10.49Adirelledamn, we just tried anub'rekhan, my main tank and leader didn't want to heard about pet tanking
00:10.58Stephmwkenlyric|home: damn. You're tempting me to roll alliance just to gank you ;)
00:11.00Adirellelooked fun tho
00:11.03grennonAdirelle: ouch
00:11.28[dRaCo]adirelle: pet tanking anub'rekhan?
00:11.30Stephmwkenlyric|home: but scratch that, I just couldn't bring myself to do it
00:11.37kenlyric|homecan't gank me.
00:11.39Adirelle[draco]: yep
00:11.48kenlyric|homeI'm just gonna dance naked in town.
00:11.51[dRaCo]sounds interesting.
00:12.01kenlyric|homebecause... Still the Prettiest!
00:12.07Adirelleit isn't affected by locust swarm, so there no need to move the boss
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00:12.17[dRaCo]bug or feature?
00:12.28Adirellenot a bug i think
00:12.35Adirelleit's liike geddon's bomb
00:13.16Adirellepets are immune because it may cause trouble in cities (don't know how work locust swarm tho)
00:13.32durcynpig tanks work well on anub
00:14.21Adirellejust search "anub'rhekan pet" on video.google
00:14.21durcyner boars rather
00:14.22kenlyric|homepeople used to let their pets get the Bomb effect on the baron in MC, then dismiss them.
00:14.22Adirellejust need a bm-specced hunter, that I am (46/5/0)
00:14.22kenlyric|homecall them out in town and blow up the entire bank :)
00:14.41vithhahaha
00:14.41Adirellei know for the bomb
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00:15.01kenlyric|homeblizzard considers using tanks in that fight a "creative use of game mechanics".. at lesat for now.
00:15.03Adirellebut I'm wondering if anub's locust could do the same kinda thing, that would explain why pets are immune
00:15.07kenlyric|homeerrr, in the anub fight.
00:15.26durcynAdirelle: it's an aoe aura on the boss, not the player or pet
00:15.36kenlyric|homepets are immune to a lot of boss effects.
00:15.50Adirelledurcyn: yep, but it seems to call lots of locusts...
00:16.01durcynthe other one people used to use was the old hakkar 1.0 corrupted blood effect, that was fun in the AH
00:16.06Dranorbut not to common aoe dmg
00:16.08durcynAdirelle: yes, but once you move oor of anub, it leaves
00:16.14ravagernlyay, tekkub submitted new versions to wowinterface :P
00:16.17Adirelle(or maybe i'm confused by bugs spawning because of death)
00:16.35Dranorif some mob has blastwave the pet will get that damage
00:16.42durcynAdirelle: locust swarm is totally indepenedant of scarab spawns
00:16.49ckknightcool, if you go to the new interactive flash site from Bliz, you can complete 5 quests and get "exclusive content"
00:16.56ckknighti.e. new wallpapers
00:17.04Adirelleit's was the first I saw anub, so some things are still a bit unclear to me
00:17.12Adirelles/first/first time/
00:17.19Stephmwckknight: oh. wow.
00:17.35Stephmwckknight: pass.
00:17.42ckknighthttp://media.worldofwarcraft.com/bc-minisite/download/data/wallpaper/bloodelves_2560_1600.jpg
00:17.52durcynAdirelle: gotcha.  which side are you kiting on?  it helps to use the opposite corner as a "safe spot" for the non-mt healers to outrange the impale
00:17.54Adirellebut running after the MT with aspect of the pack was kinda ... boring
00:18.02ckknighthttp://media.worldofwarcraft.com/bc-minisite/download/data/wallpaper/draenei_2560_1600.jpg
00:18.22ckknighthttp://media.worldofwarcraft.com/bc-minisite/download/data/wallpaper/wowx-wallpaper_1600_1200.jpg
00:18.25durcynAdirelle: also would recommend you offtank the crypt guards until ~15 sec on the swarm timer so you can delay corpse scarabs, it helps a lot
00:19.00Stephmwckknight: pallies in pink... no comment
00:19.02Adirelledurcyn: ?
00:19.17ckknightpink can be manly
00:19.23Adirelledurcyn: keeping guards alive until 15 sec before swarm ?
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00:19.43durcynAdirelle: yep!  it's not obvious but it helps tons to not have random corpse scarabs spawning whenever
00:19.51CIA-1703sayclub * r25191 10Postal/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Postal: -Updated localization koKR
00:20.26Healthckknight: New wallpater?
00:20.28evlHow do I use constants like SELFKILLOTHER ?
00:20.29Healthpaper*
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00:20.40ckknightHealth: yea
00:20.46Adirellehey, evl: did you tried new baggins skin ?
00:20.47HealthWas neat
00:20.51HealthI'll use it at work tomorrow
00:21.01evlAdirelle: haven't had time :) I will!
00:21.31Adirelledurcyn: i think we'll try to, next time we get their, if we ever try again
00:22.14Adirelleevl: it ain't really pretty, but it's nearly impossible to skin the bags as blizzard ones
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00:22.22durcyngrennon: ping
00:22.33evlIt's possible but I think you'd have to mod the textures a lot
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00:22.40Adirelleevl: yep
00:22.43whymustwekilis there a bug in skinner or something?
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00:22.56Adirelleevl: and i'm not really at ease with that
00:23.00grennondurcyn: yo
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00:23.25evlAdirelle: i'm pretty decent in photoshop if you need help :)
00:23.32whymustwekilor is skinner and bongos incompatiable together right now?
00:23.45Adirelleevl: that's mainly a question of fitting the texture onto the sections, items, ...
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00:24.14whymustwekilcause skinner is causing my menu bar to lock to the top left of my screen
00:24.19Adirelleevl: as they are subject to change in width/height/number of slots...
00:25.07evlAdirelle: well it's a daunting task but possible, if you make an action in photoshop that creates a 1x1, 1x2, 2x1, 2x2  etc. grid of textures you can get it pretty accurate afaik
00:25.56durcyngrennon: found a race condition in postal, when using open all with a unique item in mail
00:25.58Adirelleevl: Blizzard have a 4-columns large texture, with 2-slot et 4-slot headers, plus bag foot
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00:26.24evlAdirelle: i never expected it to be possible without some serious texture work no so I'm not surprised
00:26.42durcyngrennon: when you already have one of that unique item in inventory
00:26.52grennondurcyn: in theory the UI should give an error, that event should fire in the postallib and sent a skipped message to the openall addon
00:26.56evlAdirelle: If you can isolate and make a tileable empty slot and no slot you can pretty much generate all the needed textures
00:27.11grennondurcyn: unfortunately i dont have a unique item to try it with, like a zg doll or something
00:27.18durcyngrennon: resulted in postal throwing an error, though you might like to know.. i'll try and send myself a zg doll later to get the exact line
00:27.22Adirelleevl: the main concern in fact, in that their a lot of empty space, that's look quite ugly
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00:27.54Adirelleevl: because their is no "tileable" bag background in mpq
00:28.15Adirellehet Nargiddley
00:28.23evlif I have this GlobalStrings.lua entry SELFKILLOTHER = "You have slain %s!"; would I use _, _, match = string.find("my message here", SELFKILLOTHER) to extract the %s part?
00:28.26Nargiddleyhey
00:29.16Adirelleevl: no, you would have to use Deformat for that
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00:32.16Adirellenight
00:36.00grennondurcyn: yeah, its supposed to skip uniques and go to the next message, ill check the code against how AH_Mailcollect does uniques later after thaddius
00:36.08grennonhad to go respec friggin prot
00:36.32durcyngrennon: poor bastid =(
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00:37.07grennonimp block, toughness, imp taunt
00:37.15grennonshortbus healers and no 4 piece tanks here tonight
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00:37.54Panyewhat does Visor do?
00:38.10gngsk|Visor:Do("Stuff")
00:38.26CIA-1703ag * r25192 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
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00:38.40[dRaCo]yay!
00:38.43[dRaCo]pet support
00:38.44Panyeno but what does it actually do before a download it
00:39.03kagarohmm autobar keeps hitting proteted frames :(
00:40.02ravagernlomfg, ag` thank you!
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00:42.13Q6oh great, no i dont have an excuse to hunters when i say i cant see pet health bars
00:43.57PogoTribalmeh, don't heal their pets anyways
00:44.08PogoTribalunless it's doing something that's not stupid
00:44.16PogoTribalwhich is... 10% of the time
00:44.32Stephmw15%... they no longer attack CC'd mobs
00:44.37PogoTribalthe other 90% is hunters trying to have their cat offtank, taunting off of the main tank, or on aggressive mode
00:45.33kenlyric|homeI spent one AV healing a cat who was the MT on all the bosses.
00:45.45[dRaCo]as long as it worked.
00:46.08[dRaCo]there are great hunters out here who know how to handle their pets.
00:46.40[dRaCo]too few, though :/
00:46.56[dRaCo]hell, pets are like walking 200 dps.
00:46.58PogoTribalit's the lollerlas famine that gives good hunters a bad name
00:47.01kenlyric|homeI dislike hunters whose answer to not knowing how to use their pet is to not use their pet at all.
00:48.08[dRaCo]same goes for shamans and totems, too, btw.
00:48.13Azurewrathi dislike Hunters in general. I'd party if they would just delete that class.
00:48.14PogoTribalI hate when they until they've been healed for 2k damage before discovering their Feign Death button.
00:48.21kenlyric|homepet should at the very least be free dps.
00:48.35kenlyric|homeI never heal a hunter until they hit FD. That's dangerous.
00:48.43kenlyric|homethey FD, then I die.
00:48.47whymustwekilanyone having a problem with skinner and bongos together?
00:49.19PogoTribalI'll shield them and fade, but not heal.
00:49.20CIA-1703murazorz * r25193 10ColaMachine/ (ColaMachine.toc Core.lua):
00:49.20CIA-17ColaMachine:
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00:49.34PogoTribalShamans are another story.
00:49.54PogoTribalThey're halfway decent at offtanking, but that doesn't mean they should do it. Too few even use totems.
00:50.07[dRaCo]they were, not anymore.
00:50.14PogoTribalThey just earthshock the crap out of things.
00:50.20PogoTribalWhich I think no longer causes increased threat.
00:50.22[dRaCo]no extra aggro...
00:50.27[dRaCo]yeah
00:50.30NightHawkTheSaneFS does though, so its no matter
00:50.47NightHawkTheSanethe big changes are rockbiter having no extra threat, and spirit weapons reducing melee th reat
00:50.54[dRaCo]yeah
00:51.36NightHawkTheSaneyou can still off tank things that arnt being dps'd, tanking over heal threat is pretty trivial. but tanking over dps is very hard
00:51.57[dRaCo]it was possible before, though.
00:52.54ThorgardHow're Blizzard doing the BC release, do all US servers roll into BC mode at the same time or do they do it by the timezone the server is in? :o
00:53.10kenlyric|homethey're in bc mode now.
00:53.14kenlyric|homeour accounts are not.
00:53.19[dRaCo]guess they are just going to break the servers for like 10 hours
00:53.45nymbiaactually it's weird, i dont think the outland continent servers are up yet
00:53.57nymbiacant link stuff from their vendors yet
00:54.03[dRaCo]so nobody's going to care about the time anyway.
00:54.10StephmwTBC, aka Blizzard's royal screwup...
00:54.18NightHawkTheSanenymbia: they probably wont bother turning them on until the release anyway
00:54.27nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: yeah
00:54.38grennonim assuming new zones are on their own server
00:54.39evlHow is ScheduleRepeatingEvent vs OnUpdate?
00:54.52grennonkalimdor, ek, instance, bc
00:55.13nymbiaevl: onupdate fires every time a frame is drawn
00:55.31NightHawkTheSanegrennon: yeah, outland and the draenei/belf starting zones are both on their own server
00:55.33evlnymbia: so if I need something to check for an update every second I can use that instead?
00:55.48Azurewrathnymbia: you can't link an item that the Server hasn't seen since last reboot.. i guess when noone enters Outland the vendors are not loaded too..
00:56.08Azurewrathlinking Netherweave etc. is no prob since it's being farmed already :)
00:56.15nymbiaevl: nah, use ScheduleRepeating.
00:56.32evlnymbia: yes, that instead of OnUpdate :)
00:56.42nymbiaAzurewrath: if the servers were up, the vendors would be populated and the item links would be valid
00:56.51nymbiaevl: yeah ;)
00:57.07Azurewrathnymbia: we can't say for sure though :)
00:57.18kenlyric|homewhich vendors aren't populated?
00:57.23nymbiaAzurewrath: true enough
00:57.27nymbiakenlyric|home: the ones in outland
00:58.01kenlyric|homewho says they aren't?
00:58.27nymbiakenlyric|home: i do ;)
00:58.41nymbiakenlyric|home: linking items that they sell gets you disconnected at the moment.
00:59.43CIA-1703sayclub * r25194 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFuLocal-koKR.lua):
00:59.43CIA-17FuBar_GroupFu:
00:59.43CIA-17- Added koKR Translation(by savageox)
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01:00.04kenlyric|homeahh, that's probably what the restart tomorrow morning is going to do.
01:00.12Azurewrathmy theory is that areas which noone entered since the last reboot are not loaded up at all.. or at least the static NPCs there are not spawned
01:00.27Azurewraththat would be the other possibility :)
01:03.28whymustwekilanyone know why skinner would cause the menu and the bag buttons to lock to the top left of the screen with the bongos action bars?
01:05.10Milesfatality remix!
01:05.32Milesfatali-li-li-li-li-li-li-li *CLUNK* WoW has encountered an critical error
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01:07.21grennonthaddius is so sad, we brought 4 new people and they got every transition down by using the mod
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01:07.27AzurewrathMiles: revenge of the worms! ;)
01:07.27grennonon the first attempt
01:07.27Temoh hey
01:07.34TemMiles, I've had that happen before
01:07.42TemMiles, I never did figure out how to reproduce it
01:08.37renchaptry to sacrifice a chicken
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01:10.05CIA-1703benumbed * r25196 10MusicStream/ (14 files in 5 dirs): MusicStream:No need for python to generate library of MP3's anymore, read README.TXT
01:11.01renchapis it an ace mod like EnchantingSeller ?
01:12.11PogoTribalYour mother is an Ace mod.
01:12.12durcynrenchap: Manufac does some of that
01:12.20PogoTribalI bugsacked her the other day.
01:12.46PogoTribalShe's pretty FUBARed.
01:15.15durcynPogoTribal: did you put your Crayon in her ClosetGnome?
01:16.07PogoTribalPfft, I'm not a pervert.
01:16.11break19he was too busy Duece'ing her.
01:16.16PogoTribalAlthough there were some big wigs in there.
01:16.45PogoTribalShe suggested using a bananabar, but I'm not down with toys.
01:17.38break19oh come on, it'd be fun to play with her aperture
01:17.43PogoTribalAnd then demanded MoneyFu for my PerformanceFu! All I offered in payment was some hotcandy.
01:18.07break19was it enough to start a barbrawl?
01:18.18ag`partypets working guys?
01:18.20PogoTribalI looked at the CLockFu and realized I had to go.
01:18.47PogoTribalHer ItemRack was really nice while it lasted.
01:19.00break19ag`: we're too busy using double entendre. :p
01:19.15PogoTribalI imagine I"ll go to her LocationFu again tomorrow night to Dewdrop a bit more in her library.
01:19.15break19ag`: which release fixes it, so I can check
01:20.05PogoTribalag` are you still getting problems with castbars appear in party/raid frames when disabled?
01:20.23PogoTribalIf you say no, that means I can download the new revision, which means I can kiss you.
01:20.35break19PogoTribal: just hope her hubby dont find out.. both of ya will be in Bigtrouble
01:21.02PogoTribalThat's ok, I'm an Antagonist with a big Buffalo stick.
01:21.09PogoTribalOk this is getting ridiculous.
01:21.29break19me? i'm more of a diplomat, with a denial2 of my detox problems
01:21.37break19lol yea
01:21.42PogoTribalhaha
01:22.09break19not only was the double entendre, but nice alliteration too. and didnt plan on it :p
01:22.58Aenslaeddoes anyone else here use bugsack and itemrack? I get a billion bugs from bugsack about itemrack, but both seem to work fine
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01:23.32break19Aenslaed: if you werent running bugsack, your wow would be unusable because of the bug spam :p
01:23.43Aenslaedactually, no
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01:23.58Aenslaeditemrack works perfectly fine and doesn't give off any errors
01:24.38break19aens.. you're missing the point.. bugsack just sacks the bugs away.. they're still there.. but the default bliz response is a big ole window with an ok on it, every time theres a bug.
01:25.09Aenslaedyeah, but there is no 'big ole window' when I disable bugsack and buggrabber
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01:25.20Aenslaedand have itemrack running
01:26.03break19hmm maybe theres a slight conflict then
01:26.04ilifinbugsack is probably intercepting the hidden protected function call errors that the big ole window doesn't show
01:26.56ag`PogoTribal: uhm I'd say no but check it out
01:27.44break19ag`: party pets *seems* to work.
01:27.51ag`seems to? :P
01:28.32break19just logged on, had a hunter friend join my group.. I can see his pet.. but didnt get much farther into checking than that.. he was on his way out when I shanghai'd him :p
01:29.17kebinusanhmm anyone know what is causing things like this: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'FuBar' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarRight:SetPoint()'
01:29.22kebinusanIm getting a ton of them
01:29.44ag`disable bugsack, the end
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01:29.56kebinusanlol
01:29.57kebinusanok
01:30.42PogoTribalok ag` I'll just wait until Wednesday or so before updating
01:31.02ag`PogoTribal: I meant try it out
01:31.46break19PogoTribal: basically.. he *thinks* its working.. if its not, he'd rather know now, than wednesday :p
01:32.28PogoTribalok, I'm gonna farm Netherweave here in about an hour with some guildmates so I'll backup my revision and update.
01:32.46PogoTribalIs there an easy way for a noob like me to report bugs?
01:32.52break19ag`: have ya managed to track down the issue where all the frames would be showing upon loggin, as little black bars? hiding/showing them fixes it.. its totally random as to when it'd happen tho....
01:33.19break19has only happened to me once tonight.. that was when I *first* opened wow...
01:33.33break19i've exited and reopened a few times since then..
01:33.58PogoTribalWill my profile run into any problems if I revert to an older revision?
01:35.15PogoTribalactually nvm that's kind of a stupid question
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01:47.51grennonman, i wonder if all of cluster3 is horked or just AD
01:47.52grennonxpac isnt even here and its already hit the fan stability wise
01:48.07cladhaireits the whole cluster
01:48.09cladhaireI'm on Stormrage =)
01:48.43cladhairei wonder if we've killed each other =)
01:48.53Thrae<PROTECTED>
01:48.59Antiarc|HomeHoly crap almighty
01:49.06Antiarc|HomeI just tried to log in to Cenarion Circle
01:49.09Antiarc|HomeSup 500+ queue
01:49.20Antiarc|HomeWorst I've seen in the last 2 months has been 120
01:50.12durcyngg expack
01:51.34ckknightwell, I traced and colored the BE Pally I drew
01:51.34ckknightand he looks pretty gay
01:51.35ckknightbut I think that's what I was going for
01:52.02kenlyric|homeStill the prettiest!
01:52.05ag`break19: yes... it's fixed...
01:53.08CIA-1703ag * r25197 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:
01:53.08CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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01:53.29ckknighthttp://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4074/pallyeh9.png
01:53.34bveranyone have a problem with fubar not adjusting the frames (buff frames)??
01:54.15ckknightany thoughts?
01:54.27ckknightI still have to give him his sword
01:54.48break19heh
01:56.02grennonckknight: i think you should stick to coding
01:56.07break19ag`: nice.. my fave frames are the abp ones, just an fyi. also like the compact ones, but they seem to do nutty things..
01:56.12break19grennon: I'm glad you said it lol
01:56.17ckknightit's not meant to be good, at all.
01:56.20break19he's been biting my head off lately :)
01:57.47FryGuyya
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02:05.05Industrialckknight: you made me spill my drink :(
02:05.14ckknight?
02:05.29IndustrialI was like
02:05.42Industrial*click* PFFFFFFF spouting it all over my desk
02:05.51ckknightfunny, then?
02:05.53grennoncladhaire: back up
02:06.00ckknightit's meant to be funny and crude
02:06.04Industrialgj :p
02:06.05ckknight(and gay)
02:06.18Industrialwell gay ofcouce, its an elf.
02:06.20kenlyric|homethat's the wrong hairstyle for a gay blood elf
02:06.22Industrialrce*
02:06.29kenlyric|homeit must be CLOUD!
02:06.31ckknightkenlyric|home: it's the one I stole from.
02:06.48Industrialhe needs a dress.
02:06.58Industrialbetter, a skirt.
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02:07.09kenlyric|homea plate skirt.
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02:14.49Guillotineanyone willing to look at http://www.pastey.net/5115 real quickly? explain my problem in the comment at the bottom ;)
02:17.20Hobinheimis there an onupdate provision for ace?
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02:23.27nymbiaHobinheim: provision?  how do you mean?
02:23.53CIA-1703thrae * r25198 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- Fixed ignoring of Player option for aggro check
02:24.28ckknightHobinheim: AceEvents' scheduling.
02:25.45Hobinheimlike... a hook. api. something.
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02:27.34Hobinheimso i guess that's a total replacement for interacting with OnUpdate
02:28.49ckknightyes
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02:36.38EnalungAnyone around here knows dewdrop well? Need a bit of help to figure this one out.
02:37.07nymbiaEnalung: ask away
02:37.44EnalungOk, I'm getting an error.
02:38.13EnalungLet me recreate it to pull out the exact text
02:38.18nymbia(by the way, Enalung from illidan?)
02:38.35EnalungYes
02:38.39nymbiasup ;)
02:38.48Klazaranyidea what might cuase my screen to all the sudden flicker on and off, triggers by an event in game only not sure what
02:39.23EnalungHmm!
02:39.36EnalungHeard a lot of you as a modder but you play on my server?
02:39.47nymbiasure
02:39.49nymbiai lead MR ;)
02:39.57EnalungI tend to miss a lot of things outside the guild
02:40.44EnalungOh, and I'm the only enalung on the entire web. You can google it and the results are mostly mine save a few weird cases.
02:40.48nymbiacan't blame you for that, there's not a lot worth paying attention to.  unless you're a fan of sn
02:41.18EnalungHaha well I'm not a fan but heck there's always something going between our 2 guilds usualy
02:41.20sysragedon't suppose anybody has a hack for HonorFu so it will highlight my name on the BG scorecard if i turn off name coloring
02:41.31nymbiaEnalung: lol ;)
02:41.49EnalungOk the exact error is attempt to call method addline a nill value
02:42.01break19here's a different request.. need a cool name for my winterspring pride kitty pet :)
02:42.18kenlyric|homeSnuffles
02:42.22EnalungUsing Addline does not work obviously, but when I do Dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable(RadialMenu.DataTable) it works
02:42.32break19these are the names I've used before Tokori (owl), Besheetha(cat), Weiluka (wolf) see a pattern here? :p
02:43.18break19kenlyric|home: snuffles doesnt really inspire a lot of fear in my enemies heh
02:43.25Arrowmasterwhy does ("%s takes in a deep breath..."):find("%s takes in a deep breath") return nil?
02:43.29EnalungRadialMenu.DataTable is just something I placed in as a temporairy.
02:43.34nymbiaEnalung: sounds like something simple.  make sure you've got addline spelled exactly right, ie dewdrop:AddLine()
02:44.12EnalungI've already checked the syntax with the wiki and even went to another addon to check how it was done
02:44.20nymbiaArrowmaster: try ("%s takes in a deep breath..."):find("%%s takes in a deep breath")
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02:44.57Arrowmasteryeah that worked
02:45.15nymbiaEnalung: if your FeedAceOptionsTable() is working, then your dewdrop reference must be correct.  throw up the code in question on pastey.net, maybe?
02:45.22nymbiaArrowmaster: sneaky escapes ;)
02:45.59CrisCrOsshow does one make an IRC server?
02:46.16CrisCrOsschannel preferabbly..
02:46.58Arrowmasterheh just updated bigwigs again and seems somebodys already fixed the ony db warnings
02:49.21NightHawkTheSaneCrisCrOss: you can make a channel just by joining it.
02:50.09Enalungadding a few comments...
02:53.07NayonAnyone know why Gmail in the svn trunk had nothing but the libs folder?
02:53.10Enalunghttp://pastey.net/5116
02:54.31EnalungAh I foiund one messup a least!
02:55.24EnalungI must have hit a few more keys when I tiped true in.
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02:56.13EnalungStill getting the error though
02:56.31nymbiaEnalung: capitalize the L in lines 19 and 23
02:56.51NayonCase specifics FTW
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02:57.12Enalungphp already got me used to those...
02:57.30EnalungI still mess it up though.
02:58.12EnalungYep, that's what broke the camel's back. Thanks
02:58.20nymbiano problem :)
02:58.46CIA-1703nargiddley * r25199 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Reverting Frame Pool
02:58.48EnalungNow i start figuring out the SecurePieMenuTemplate
02:59.01EnalungBut first shower and work in 2 hours...
02:59.30XandAnyone from AG unit frame team here?
02:59.48EnalungIt's a small world Nymbia, that's for sure.
03:00.10nymbiaEnalung: yup ;)  someone from LT was in here earlier, too, heh.
03:04.36bverthe debuff highlighting for AGUF is bugged atm, the option doesnt turn it off :(
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03:05.39CIA-1703nymbia * r25200 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Added some missing tradeskill mats data.
03:06.36AmadeoI finally got WoW working in Linux..well, getting WoW working wasn't the hard part, but I finally got to it :P
03:06.50CIA-1703nymbia * r25201 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua: Stitch-1.0: Use PT3 for vendor mat checks.
03:06.57nymbiaAmadeo: grats ;)
03:07.10Gngskanyone know off the top of their head if Mynithrosil of Feathermoon, author of BattlegroundFu, ever comes to IRC?
03:07.26AmadeoNow I have to figure out how to tweak it some...it doesn't run as smooth as in Windows
03:07.35AmadeoGngsk: hyperChipmunk
03:07.41GngskAmadeo, oh thx
03:07.46Amadeoiirc :)
03:08.29clad|sleepAmadeo: Talk with haste.. his wow runs better in Linux than it does in windows =)
03:08.48Amadeoclad|sleep: Yeah! haste is my go-to Linux guru :)
03:08.52AmadeoHe just sleeps too much ;)
03:09.00clad|sleephehe
03:09.43nymbiaAmadeo: there's a registry entry that's a major boost
03:09.44Amadeomy main problem now is that the cursor seems to be...off
03:09.44AmadeoI did that one, nymbia :)
03:09.44Amadeomy cursor selects stuff, but it's almost as if the actual cursor is above the hand-icon
03:09.52nymbiathat's an odd one
03:10.20Amadeoit may just be that OpenGL doesn't run as well on my card
03:10.29AmadeoI remember losing like 20 fps when I tried OpenGL in Windows
03:12.16clad|sleepi'm so spoiled now
03:12.20clad|sleepi can do anythign i want on my latop
03:12.24clad|sleepand i still get 30fps min
03:13.16AmadeoI want to be spoiled!
03:14.22clad|sleepand ths is on my laptop =)
03:14.35AmadeoI get 30fps with settings as low as they go!
03:14.43Amadeowith only WoW open
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03:15.32ag`the openGL implimentation for wow isn't as good as the directX one
03:16.46AmadeoYeah, but a lot of people were saying that their WoW runs better in Linux than Windows, so I figured I could get it at least better than I have it now :)
03:17.06ag`I'm not sure that it runs better
03:17.11ag`it might run good though
03:17.34Q6it runs better becuase it doesnt run in windows
03:17.36Amadeoit runs pretty well overall, I just need to improve it a bit and get the cursor right
03:17.45AmadeoQ6: That's just untrue :P
03:18.49Q6i cant wait til vista comes out
03:19.03Q6maybe then more people will switch to linux
03:19.46Q6what distro are you using?
03:20.32AmadeoUbuntu
03:20.56nymbiaAmadeo: which version of wine are you using?
03:21.10Amadeothe latest! and latest Nvidia
03:21.16AmadeoI forget the version numbers
03:21.21AmadeoI have a 6600 GT
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03:21.41Amadeodon't get me wrong, it runs well...but sometimes when I turn around I feel some framerate drop that I normally don't in Windows
03:22.28break19Amadeo: be happy... I get 20fps on average... drops to 7-10 in raids.. heh
03:23.59Amadeodon't worry, my framerate sucks too :)
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03:24.23Industrialanyone have a screenshot of a full bloodelf?
03:24.32Industrialin a pose dont care what
03:24.32Industrial:D
03:24.39CIA-1703thrae * r25202 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- You may now easily disable VitalWatch from sending out channel messages. There was a way before, but it was a little bit convoluted.
03:24.52CIA-1703thrae * r25203 10VitalWatchOptions/VitalWatchOptionsLocale_enEN.lua: VitalWatchOptions -- Updated for VitalWatch.
03:25.11NightHawkTheSaneIndustrial: http://www.asylumsw.com/files/tbc/belf_female.jpeg
03:25.13NightHawkTheSanethat work?
03:25.24Industrialyes thx
03:25.35ckknightIndustrial: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4074/pallyeh9.png
03:25.46sysrageanybody happen to know why i'm getting random "such and such mod is been blocked by blizzard whatever" when using this macro?
03:25.48sysrage./cast [button:1,nomodifier]Conjured Crystal Water;[button:2,nomodifier]Conjured Cinnamon Roll;[button:1,modifier:alt]Conjure Water;[button:2,modifier:alt]Conjure Food
03:25.50Industrialckknight: exactly
03:25.53IndustrialMS PAINT TO THE RESQUE!
03:25.55CIA-1703next96 * r25204 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua:
03:25.55CIA-17ag_UnitFrames :
03:25.55CIA-17- Update locale koKR
03:26.00ckknightbtw: http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1812/undeadte9.png
03:26.03ckknighttake a look at that.
03:26.08sysragethe mod that blocks it is random and it doesn't always happen. sometimes it'll be blocked, i'll walk 2 steps, and it'll work
03:26.18Industrialerm, yeah
03:26.18AmadeoQ6: Vista won't make more people switch to Linux...it's still too complicated to get minor stuff working at times...the majority of people using computers aren't going to be able to fix things themselves in Linux, even with help
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03:27.50ckknightpretty true
03:28.06AmadeoIt took me days just to get my refresh rate fixed in Ubuntu...nobody knew what to do
03:28.14sysragenobody?
03:28.16Amadeoends up being some obscure option for the Nvidia drivers
03:29.12EnalungThe other thing about linux is that most programs are still made under windows
03:29.23EnalungYou have to use a windows emulator to get most of them working
03:29.27Amadeobut I will agree that Vista is pretty sad overall for an OS they worked so long on
03:30.16grennonAmadeo: vista makes the internet faster
03:30.35AmadeoNo, that's Intel!
03:30.35EnalungVista is way too bloated if you ask me
03:30.40Kadishbut it's sooo pretty
03:30.42Kadish:p
03:30.57AmadeoI think Beryl and Compiz are prettier :P
03:31.09ckknightI like OS X...
03:31.19AmadeoI've never used it :(
03:31.25EnalungPretty but requires a much more powerfull computer then linux ever will
03:31.37ckknightseriously, Amadeo?
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03:31.55Amadeoyep
03:31.59AmadeoI've never used any MacOS
03:32.09KadishEnalung: true, though it works surprisingly well on old(er) comps as well
03:32.15Amadeowell, aside from whatever's on an Apple IIe :P
03:32.19Enalungsysrage, you still there?
03:32.19Kadishi've had lots of headaches with beryl sadly
03:32.27EnalungThat macro is a blizzard bug, not an addon bug
03:32.29Kadishdue to the fact i have an ati video card
03:32.32AmadeoKadish: I've used neither, but I keep hearing Compiz is much more mature
03:32.45EnalungThere's a post on that on the UI forums
03:33.19Kadishi thought beryl was just a renaming of compiz
03:33.39Kadishbut anyhow its not that which is the problem, its that Xgl is downright unstable with this card
03:33.45Kadishand Aiglx doesn't work with ati cards at all
03:33.56Kadishwell not ones that need the 'radeon' driver anyhow
03:35.02ckknightberyl's a fork of compiz
03:35.03sysrageenalung yes
03:35.13ag`don't buy ati if you want to use linux
03:35.15Amadeoone thing I had to get used to in Linux was that the button on my CDROM drive doesn't work if a CD is in it :P
03:35.20EnalungI had a shitton of those macros in my UI myself
03:35.22ag`most of us learned the hard way
03:35.22sysragehappen to have a link to the post?
03:35.43sysragewhich part of it is breaking it?
03:35.54EnalungLet me fish it quick
03:35.58sysragethanks
03:36.28Enalunghttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64247160&sid=1
03:36.31AmadeoI'm too afraid to install Beryl/Compiz, because I don't want it to eat up all my resources while I'm in WoW or something :P
03:36.37Industrialag`: word.
03:36.50sysrageenalung: much appreciated
03:36.59Enalungnp
03:37.19KadishAmadeo: running WoW thru wine/cedega?
03:37.28AmadeoWine
03:38.04Thraegoddammit
03:38.35ThraeThe svn is not letting me commit for FuBar_HeyFu, keeps saying my commit notes are bad, when they're fine.
03:38.44Prophyyanyone getting a ton of Itemrack errors in bugsack??
03:39.10EnalungAnyone knows a good guide to learn button attributes?
03:39.17Prophyywith 2.05 what is the suggested value for  Set UIFaster "x"  ?? is it worth enabling
03:39.22xlviiHas anyone ever coded VBA in M$ Word? (I'm working with macros, bookmarks and forms)
03:39.36Thorgardkergoth, ping
03:39.54EnalungI know the basics but a lot still escapes me. One working exemple I have is self:SetAttribute('type1', 'spell') self:SetAttribute('spell', 'Arcane Shot')
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03:42.00CIA-1703thrae * r25205 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: ChatFrame.editBox.lastTell seems to have disappeared, causing HeyFu to give an error on startup. Added a sanity check in case it comes back.
03:42.09ThraeAh there we go -- it's case-sensitive
03:42.13kebinusanag`:  its seems debuff highlighting is perma on
03:45.25GngskThrae, thx!
03:46.01ThraeKaelten: ping
03:50.28kenlyricThrae: woot!
03:50.28Fisker-lol
03:50.41Fisker-out of the blue the itemsync creator just came back and made an ace2 port
03:51.05break19kebinusan: yea.. I noticed that too
03:51.14KaeltenThrae: pong?
03:52.18ThraeKaelten: EQCompare is exploding with KC_Items because your manual Hooks are not passing the arguments to the original function
03:52.39ThraeKaelten: OnHide, OnShow, etc. pass this as arg1
03:53.11ThraeI'll update EQCompare to use 'this' instead of the passed object
03:53.32ckknightkersplosion!
03:53.41Kaeltenhrm,
03:53.48Kaeltencommit the fixes for KCI too
03:53.49Xandag`> Couple bugs(you probably know) and a suggestion.
03:53.49Kaelten:)
03:54.17XandThe Debuff highlighting seems to stay on even when turned off.
03:54.45XandAlso, when you log in, the party group is in a default location until you mouse over scaling in the party options.
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03:55.29XandAnd a suggestion for the pet bar, have the growth much larger then 50.  Let it go up to like 75 or 100
03:55.36nymbiamy friend was having the party pets showing even when disabled, as well
03:56.22CIA-1703thrae * r25206 10KC_Items/tooltip/tooltip.lua:
03:56.22CIA-17KC_Items: When hooking manually, add arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4,arg5,etc. and pass them
03:56.22CIA-17to the original function, even if they don't exist (since they may later on).
03:56.22CIA-17Anyway, this fixes mods that expect OnShow, OnHide, et. all to pass 'this' as
03:56.22CIA-17arg1.
03:56.49bakkodaanyone else have probs with Pet Party units popping up in agUF?
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04:01.46whymustwekilanyone know why skinner would cause my menu buttons to stick in the top left corner
04:02.29CIA-1703thrae * r25207 10EQCompare/EQCompare.lua: EQCompare: Use 'this' instead of the argument passed to the OnShow / OnHide scripts for tooltips, fixing problems with mods that don't hook properly.
04:02.38XandAside from those small bugs, aguf is amazing...well done :P
04:03.09OvrLrd-Qquick question about the /files/ script, does it output a file that I can easily parse for latest versions? Or do I get to just regex the html of the page?
04:03.29ThraeOvrLrd-Q: Yes. www.wowace.com/files/AddonName/AddonName.zip is ALWAYS the latest revision.
04:03.49OvrLrd-Qwell I'm ust wanting the version number, not necessarily to download it
04:04.34ThraeOvrLrd-Q: Use svn rev, or www.wowace.com/files/AddonName/latest.txt is a file which just contains the latest revision number
04:04.42Nargiddleywww.wowace.com/files/AddonName/latest.txt
04:04.50Nargiddleydoh beaten
04:04.55OvrLrd-Qyea I noticed latest, but I'd rather not have to recurse each directory just to get the rev number
04:05.25ThraeOvrLrd-Q: WowAceUpdater can give you revision numbers easily
04:05.38ThraeOtherwise, svn rev
04:05.52OvrLrd-Qyea WAU uses latest.txt
04:07.26OvrLrd-Qtrying to write a page that'll list any updated mods available for download
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04:09.02whymustwekilis there a way to download past versions of addons on wowace?
04:09.21whymustwekilcause the new revision of skinner is bugged
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04:11.48Roartindonag: you around?
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04:22.44ZealotOnAStickSix frigging weeks in a row, no cloth from Thaddius.
04:23.18Roartindonouch
04:23.23RoartindonWe got double rogue/warrior last night
04:23.32RoartindonSeems that's what we get..
04:23.39bakkodaexact reason naxx burnt me out
04:23.42Roartindonour rogue/warriors all had 4 piece T3 before any other class had 3 piece
04:23.49bakkodano love for the druids/healers
04:24.02Roartindondruid/shaman/hunter got screwed by our T3 drops
04:24.08bakkodayup
04:24.37RoartindonOur top drops were easily warrior/rogue.. and then there were cloth.. which seemed about 2/3 the drop rate of rogue/warrior
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04:24.42bakkodai was feral thru AQ but switche dback to resto for naxx and was a bit guimped with only 6/8 t2 and some shitty world dragon epics
04:24.50Roartindonand then our hybrid drops were about 2/3 of cloth
04:25.28RoartindonI just wish I got to see KT properly before xpac
04:25.42RoartindonGot my 40 splinters ready and all :)
04:25.48grennonive been whiping on thaddius all night
04:26.00grennonno 4 piece tanks in the raid, dps keeps dieing to resisted taunts
04:26.02Roartindongrennon: What tactic do yo use?
04:26.28RoartindonI still wear 3piece NW for thaddius to reduce threat
04:26.42RoartindonEach time I overaggro, I swap in one extra piece of NR
04:26.48kebinusanheh
04:27.04kebinusanour mages dont have problems since ignites dont stack like before
04:27.05RoartindonEnded up at around 100NR which seems to be the level our tank can hold
04:27.20RoartindonWe don't have BoS dont' forget :)
04:27.22kebinusanits just important not to get in melee range with thaddius
04:27.22Roartindon(horde)
04:27.25kebinusanoh
04:27.30kebinusanyeah that would make a difference
04:27.45RoartindonEven phase 1 we moderate our dps quite  a bit
04:27.46TainUg bad bad Slashdot poll.
04:28.10TainWhat is your favorite elemental group - Halogens, Noble gases, Alkali metals... Hydraxian Waterlords
04:28.23kebinusanyeah
04:28.30kebinusanthe favorite scifi one was good
04:28.31ckknight_lol
04:28.36RoartindonWooo.. freebsd 6.2 released!
04:28.42RoartindonTime to update my servers :0
04:28.43ckknight_Noble Gases ftw, btw.
04:31.42RoartindonI hate thaddius
04:31.48Roartindonbecause we have reasonably competent people in our raids
04:31.55RoartindonWith really really shit connections
04:32.08Roartindonwe've never had an attempt where all 40 have stayed connected
04:36.02Fisker-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/Wow/PhatRoll.jpg <-Loot and me
04:36.22RoartindonGrats? :)
04:36.48xlviifisker-, what was it for?
04:36.52RoartindonYou roll 1-250?
04:37.01Fisker-xlvii i think it was bloodfang hood
04:37.06Fisker-it's really old
04:37.26Fisker-Roartindon our system incorporates dkp and random :P
04:37.35Fisker-I had the most dkp(250) so i had to roll 1-250
04:37.48xlviioh.. well that's a good thing then? ;p
04:37.50RoartindonAh.. I never realised people used dkp for strat/scholo/ubrs
04:38.03Fisker-err?
04:38.07Fisker-That was onyxia
04:38.07xlviiroartindon, it was for a bloodfang hood, so it'd be onyxia.
04:38.15Roartindongah.. getting confused :)
04:38.21Roartindonoops
04:38.29durcynwhen ubrs was first put in, it was endgame.  40 man raid zone, man.
04:38.38RoartindonHaven't done onyxia with guild for about a year
04:38.38PogoTribalGot level 68 shaman gauntlets from deadwind pass
04:38.42PogoTribalNobody's buying though
04:38.56Roartindondurcyn: Remember running strat/scholo and dropping raid just to register party quests? :)
04:38.57xlviipogo, what's the name of them?
04:39.09LePeR|Jauniacan you even de the stuff?
04:39.14PogoTribalSundered Gauntlets of the Elder
04:39.15PogoTribalcan't DE
04:39.27LePeR|Jauniayea need higher enchanting level lol
04:39.27PogoTribal+31 Stamina, +20 Intellect, +8 mp/5
04:39.37xlviioo nice.
04:39.42NightHawkTheSanegood deal
04:39.59Eejwhat teh heck
04:40.00xlviipogo, i assume this is on beta?
04:40.03Eejyou can't mass mail with Postal?
04:40.03PogoTribalGot a stack of Netherweave too, trying to sell that before xpansion
04:40.17Roartindonyou can sort of
04:40.22PogoTribalxlvii: No, you can go to Deadwind Pass to the Kharazan entrance and farm level 68-70 mobs right now.
04:40.25Roartindonalt-click the item, and it'll attach to the mail and send all at once
04:40.34Roartindonthe bulkmail feature is still not comitted in trunk tho
04:40.41xlviipogotribal, you need a group though, right?
04:41.33ilifinnah
04:41.39ilifinif you're a hunter you can just kite them
04:41.46durcynRoartindon: oh yeah.  i wept when they fixed that.  NO ONE did 5 man scholomance for the longest time =(
04:41.48kenlyricI think that's a better implementation anyway.
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04:42.02kenlyricYOu have to alt-click them to put them in a mass-mail window anyway.
04:42.14Roartindondurcyn: I was so glad I'd finished all my party quests in strat/scholo before the fix :)
04:42.38xlviidoes anyone play a rogue?
04:42.48Roartindonfisker does evidently :)
04:42.56xlviiohya.
04:43.02xlviifisker-, can i pm you? ;p
04:43.10Fisker-what now? :O
04:44.49CIA-1703nargiddley * r25208 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua Baggins.toc filtering.lua):
04:44.49CIA-17Baggins:
04:44.49CIA-17- Separated filtering code
04:44.49CIA-17- Clicking a category in the bag editor will open the category editor with it selected
04:49.54PogoTribalxlvii: Yeah, one DPS class and one healer should be fine.
04:51.13XuerianArgh, is there a page detailing the new casting events system anywhere? I figured it out when I tried to fix kLag a month back, but I'll be damned if I remember it now
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04:52.52pastamancerXuerian: kinda, I have some code/notes you could look at
04:53.07pastamancerXuerian: what specifically?
04:54.42Xuerianpastamancer: I've gotta re-write the bit for catching the Opening spell for bypassing the loot frame, and I'm just looking to be saved a bit of scrambling through "Effective changes for patch XXXX" for the functions, since noone has updated wowwiki, and I, uh... deleted my copy of klag <.< Catching 'player' casts, essentially.
04:55.59pastamancerwell, there's UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT when a player attempts to cast a spell, and UNIT_SPELLCAST_START for when a spell actually begins to cast
04:56.48XuerianUNIT_SPELLCAST_START, then check if the unit is the player, then do the UnitCastingInfo('player') bit.... eh yeah that works
04:57.07pastamancerwhat do you need UnitCastingInfo for?
04:57.20XuerianDidn't they remove the spell info from spellcast_start?
04:57.33pastamanceryeah, it's just unit
04:58.03pastamanceroh, opening is a spell?
04:58.08XuerianAyep
04:58.12pastamancerwacky
04:58.16XuerianAnnoying
04:58.21pastamancerthat too
04:58.50pastamancerUNIT_SPELLCAST_START gets the spell name
04:58.57Xuerianhm
04:59.33XuerianWell, I might just forget checking what spell. If the loot opens DURING a spell, that's the only spell it could be...
04:59.36pastamanceryou'll probably get _SENT, _START, _SUCCEEDED, _SUCCEEDED
05:00.00pastamancerthat's the pattern for a successful non-instant spellcast
05:00.08XuerianErp.
05:00.20XuerianTime to crack out devtools
05:00.40pastamanceryeah, lemme know if the events are different
05:00.45XuerianMerely for the visualization aide that makes the difference at midnight x.x
05:00.50pastamancerI have a big event order comment in castcomm
05:01.00PProvostHey pastamancer, is the RSS for files endpoint up yet?
05:01.12XuerianThanks for the help, pastamancer.
05:01.23pastamancerPProvost: nope, still working on it.  I'll have a test file soon
05:01.53pastamancerPProvost: totally rewriting the files script, the old (current) one is hackish
05:02.04PProvostCool. Just checking. Let know... thanks.
05:02.53PProvost"World Server is Down" <-= Get used to it... :)
05:03.16pastamancerif you poke around ace.pastey, you might be able to dig up some of the rss/python I've been working on
05:03.57PProvostThanks
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05:06.53Nightdew_there is no way to modify a closetgnome set that you made previously?
05:07.17pubequip and resave it under the same name?
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05:09.53*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | Yes the sites borked, yes it will get better, no its not better yet. Either someone has stabbed this man repeatedly with a spoon or he's broken out in lots of tiny smiles.
05:10.04PProvostWow. My server won't stay up. Lasts about 5 mins before NPCs start to disappear and then pop. "World Server Down"
05:10.15PProvostGuess it is DAoC time...
05:10.21SlackerJerJust equip it, adjust pieces accordingly, then resave it as the same name
05:10.52Xuerianpastamancer: _SENT, _START, _SUCCEEDED, _STOP
05:11.08pastamancerok
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05:11.48Heriowhat's everyone using to write there LUA, besides notepad, emacs and vi?
05:11.50Herioand don't say pico
05:11.56Herio*thier
05:11.58XuerianUltraEdit.
05:12.14kenlyricHerio: nano, of course.
05:12.22nymbiai use scite
05:12.22kenlyricwho the hell uses pico?\
05:12.38Codayusscite is very good for those who can't handle the raw power of emacs.
05:12.41Kaeltenkenlyric: I do, on the current server
05:12.46Kaeltensince it doesn't have nano installed
05:13.16ckknightHerio: TextMate
05:13.31CIA-1703murazorz * r25209 10ColaLight/ (ColaLight.toc Core.lua LICENSE.txt):
05:13.32CIA-17ColaLight:
05:13.32CIA-17<PROTECTED>
05:13.32CIA-17<PROTECTED>
05:13.32CIA-17<PROTECTED>
05:13.36pubemacs QQ
05:13.55Heriolol @ nano =P
05:14.12Herioi knew i missed one of those linux commandline editors =)
05:15.05Nightdew_vs.net has a nice addon
05:15.40ckknightI don't like bloated IDEs
05:16.08Nightdew_Use it for work
05:16.16Nightdew_so why not continue to use it 8grins*
05:16.36ThorgardNightdew_, because if you do your life is forfeit.
05:16.57Herioi use note pad but it lacks a few things... like being able to tab out multiple lines =P
05:16.58Nightdew_oh well.. gotta die sometime.. if not from diabetes .. itll be something else
05:17.18break19<- uses TextMate :)
05:17.46kenlyricI write binary in silicon
05:19.26ckknightbreak19: I still need to purchase a copy, but it's a pain, I need more donations to not have to _actually_ pay...
05:19.28CIA-1703benumbed * r25210 10MusicStream/Musiclibs/Music-2.0/Music-2.0.lua: MusicStream:Fixed Sorting Bug
05:19.58ThraeWhat is it about linking items to chat that disconnects you?
05:20.13Hobinheimif you try to look up an item the server hasn't release yet since the last patch
05:20.19Hobinheimyou will get disconnected
05:20.19break19ckknight: you on a mac?
05:20.23ckknightyep.
05:20.24ThraeAhhhh
05:20.29Hobinheimto prevent item spoofing
05:20.31Hobinheimor snooping around
05:22.57Fisker-Benumbed it works again or what? :O
05:23.05Benumbedmp3's =\
05:23.13Fisker-:(
05:23.15Hobinheimhave you ever heard of bag_update not firing for bag zero on login?
05:23.19Fisker-silly blizzard
05:23.57Benumbedtried everything, asx etc
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05:26.40XuerianHm... I need to write something to automatically put localizations into a loc file [and possibly update a previous string for all localizations]....
05:27.08XuerianCan't be arsed to copy-paste anything I modify across six files =|
05:27.16Hobinheimperl!
05:27.23Xuerianpy! =O
05:27.40Heriobash?!
05:28.01break19Hobinheim: from what I understand, there is no bag 0 anymore.. its now bags 1-5
05:28.15hastelua?
05:28.18XuerianNot on linux nor running cgywin >.>
05:28.19Nargiddleybag 0 is still the backpack
05:28.25XuerianNeed to learn py anyway :P
05:28.34hasteyou can still run py/perl/lua on Windows :)
05:28.48XuerianOf course o_0
05:28.52break19Nargiddley: oh? hmm.. ok
05:29.10XuerianWas just countering "bash?!" :P
05:29.44hastehehe
05:29.49Nargiddleybackpack contents are available before the others while loading, but no event specifically for it
05:30.07pastamancerXuerian: clad has a lua thing to pull out all L[".*"] references, it's in clique
05:30.46ThorgardXuerian, is there a clickable (tooltip-up-poppable, chat-linkable) XLootMonitor on the horizon?
05:31.05break19oh, ck, I think I mighta tracked down the addon(s) responsible for making my map reset to my current location.... doing some more testing.. but it looks like the culprits might be rpgo-stuff
05:31.10Xuerianpastamancer: I knew someone was doing that, I'll snag a copy of it and check it out, but I want to slip in some work with a gui toolkit too.
05:31.21ckknightcurse those handsome devils!
05:31.21KirkburnI just installed TBC :)
05:31.23XuerianThorgard: Does the one not currently out qualify?
05:31.37break19<- enabled the R addons and reloadui'd.. it started back :)
05:31.44Xuerianer
05:31.54XuerianThorgard: *Does the one currently out not qualify?
05:31.59ThorgardXuerian, not sure, last I checked I couldn't click on the item and get the item tooltip nor shift-click it into a chatwindow. Has it changed? ;P
05:32.31XuerianThorgard: Last I checked they acted just like items in your bag (aside from being pickup-drag items....)
05:32.37XuerianShould check again then, ey?
05:32.44break19nope.. wasnt those.. at least if it was, it aint the only ones.. bck to the addon enabling/disabling.. :p
05:32.47ThorgardXuerian, you drive a hard bargain..
05:34.11XuerianHm.... Now to find a BoP item to see if this snazzy dialog bypassing thing works.
05:35.43break19Xuerian: solo vc :p
05:36.13Xuerianbreak19: You make a excellent proposition. This however, is dependent on me getting into my normal server.
05:36.41break19heh
05:37.32XuerianWasn't expecting that.
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05:38.32break19ckknight: bingo.. had a couple addons doing.. one is an ace addon: RicoMiniMap - the other is the rpgo-Characterprofiler
05:38.48break19so now I know who to complain to :P
05:39.49XuerianNifty. They added a new vfx for stalvan's curse.
05:40.05[Cu]WerikDamn, I knew I was missing something!
05:40.55[Cu]WerikNow that they added new vfx for Stalvan's curse, WoW is a complete user experience for me as a bloodelf paladin,
05:41.02Kirkburnhaha
05:41.05break19heh
05:41.38KirkburnOoh, 2.0.3 downloaded really quickly :D
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05:42.28KirkburnI suppose I can test to see if a TBC client works on an unupgraded account?
05:42.42[Cu]WerikIt works with the non upgraded one
05:42.43nymbiait will
05:42.53[Cu]WerikSo I guess it wont be a miracle if it works with the upgraded account:)
05:42.58art3mishrm well thats odd
05:42.59KirkburnI shall see in a few mins =)
05:43.12art3misappearant eepanels works properly if you purge the whole wtf folder
05:43.20art3miswhich doesnt make me all that happy
05:43.28kebinusanhmm
05:43.32XuerianKirkburn: Is there even a difference in the clients?
05:43.36KirkburnI gotta work out how I'm going to get my copy though
05:43.40kebinusananyone feel like adding a hack to fubar_trainerfu
05:43.42KirkburnTBC install is 2.39 GB
05:43.44[Cu]WerikNo difference
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05:43.55KirkburnThere is a difference
05:44.02[Cu]WerikThe only difference is that the beta client has the outland content
05:44.08KirkburnExactly ;P
05:44.14[Cu]Werikeven the wow.exe is the same one
05:44.19Kirkburnnot beta client any more
05:44.21ckknightyour mom made a difference last night
05:44.45KirkburnWhat about the opening screen - that should be different, no?
05:44.51[Cu]Werikno
05:45.00Kirkburn'Normal' users get the Dark Portal too?
05:45.19[Cu]Werikok well, maybe that's also different
05:45.23ckknightno, the load screen is based off of a texture, whic his in expansion.mpq
05:45.33Fisker-grennon you there?
05:45.34[Cu]Werikhue differnce if you ask me;)
05:45.37[Cu]Werikhuge
05:45.37KirkburnI've not logged my normal account for aaaaages, so I'm totally out of the loop :)
05:45.58Heriodoes the xpack require any actual additional installation off a disk?
05:46.00KirkburnHey, the expansion login music is awesome
05:46.05KirkburnHerio, yes
05:46.08Heriobugger
05:46.23KirkburnThe enGB version is around as a torrent =)
05:46.27Heriocause i'm not going to be able to get mine until i'm back in cali
05:46.34Herioand a day or two after that
05:46.56Heriowhy did my family have to drag me to whistler!?
05:47.13XuerianI also like the shiny new active target flash.
05:47.37KirkburnXuerian, ?
05:47.44break19ahh, calvin has supposedly fixed the reset problem in 2.0.5 of the rpgo stuff.. lemme get it and see :)
05:48.23XuerianKirkburn: When autoattacking something (Or using a melee ability, methinks), the targeting circle does a zoom-in the first time you do it each time you change targets.
05:48.43KirkburnJebus, I almost deleted my main char
05:48.51KirkburnXuerian, oh yeah, it's awesome
05:49.34KirkburnI'm off to the Dark Portal :D
05:49.40XuerianKirkburn: Smooth :p. They seem to be brushing up a few of the things they missed.
05:49.45art3misbecause whistler is fun
05:49.46XuerianOoh, good idea.
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05:50.20Herioit's not fun when i miss my guilds c'thun first kill
05:50.23KirkburnAnd time to talent too :)
05:50.35Herioand i have enough DKP to take 2 drops with no competition
05:50.46XuerianIndeed. This is what, the second re-talent for druids in a month?
05:51.03art3mishaha the TOS is different in live than ebta, cant atach the patch ;P
05:51.38DrZootif I have a frame reference in a variable, and I assign nil to that var, does that effectively delete that frame?
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05:51.50ckknightgah, there are so many episodes of the O.C.
05:51.58nymbiaso what's this new UIFaster CVar do?
05:52.08KirkburnEverything's in the wrong places, my UI will be fun to set up :P
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05:52.51break19oh boy...... its downloading the 2.0.5 patch now.. *crosses fingers they have that thing fixed*
05:53.05KirkburnThis must be the first time I've logged here for about 2 months
05:53.41ckknightnymbia: *shrug* try it out
05:53.52XuerianIs the latest official framexml/devkit up to date?
05:54.40poptixbleh
05:54.41nymbiaXuerian: always
05:54.50poptixis there an Ace lootlink type mod?
05:54.54break19nymbia: its in the patch notes.
05:54.56poptixpreferably with an item database
05:55.21nymbiabreak19: i read the description.  but that doesnt say anything about what it does, just how to use it.
05:55.25Xueriannymbia: That takes all the fun out of it. Is there a proper WinMPQ/equivalent out yet? I saw they figger'd the new mpq format on a random visit to the model viewer site.
05:56.03nymbiaXuerian: not that i know of but i havent been paying attention
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05:57.03Xueriannymbia: Darn, I need to update my music extracts.
06:00.19ckknight* Updated the Terms of Use.
06:00.22ckknightwhat'd they update?
06:00.22kebinusanhmm I want to grab the third word in a string, what would the syntax be for string.find or whatever
06:00.27art3mishttp://www.binsearch.info/?q=tbc&max=100&adv_age=7&server=
06:00.30break19ck they turned a comma into a semi-colon or something.
06:00.30art3misif anyone wants to leech the tbc client ;P
06:00.31ckknightart3mis: enUS?
06:00.37art3mis1 sec ill mount it and make sure
06:00.38nymbiackknight: not sure.
06:01.44Fisker-Anyone know some paladin addons (like attack progress bar/judgement timers and so on)?
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06:01.45Hobinheimwhat's the difference between dot and colon noation?
06:01.45Hobinheimspecfically for schheduling events?
06:01.46KirkburnFatality! Oh how I've not missed you
06:01.46art3mishah
06:01.46KirkburnArgh
06:01.46ckknightHobinheim: lots.
06:01.46Arrowmasteri think thats the enGB one, somebody put a torrent on tpb named "World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (US Retail Client)" and the comments are saying its the same enGB that was posted on a.b.boneless
06:01.57break19well, that seems to fix it, ck, yay! (and, I must missed something, cuz I re-enabled ricominimap and still no reverting.. so I musta had rpgo still enabled when i thought i didnt)
06:01.58KirkburnMy settings are soooo messed up
06:01.58art3misill check in a sec to make sure
06:01.59ckknightHobinheim: I recommend reading the pil
06:02.09ckknighthttp://www.lua.org/pil/
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06:02.31Hobinheimwhich one makes sechedule event work =)
06:04.02XuerianHobinheim: Reeeeeadd pillll
06:04.20Xuerian(or read the coding tips guide in the topic. It has it too)
06:04.43Hobinheimok well i get it now
06:04.52Hobinheimi'm just saying the code example on the wiki didn't work for me
06:05.13Hobinheimself:ScheduleEvent(self.SomeMethod, 15, self) -- calls self:SomeMethod() in 15 seconds
06:05.19HerioEEBKAC
06:05.53art3mishehe herio
06:05.53Heriowhat are you using as self?
06:06.50Hobinheimisn't self my addon?
06:07.03Herioi would assume
06:07.37Heriowhat error are you getting?
06:07.56Xuerianself is a reference to the object whose method you're currently in.
06:08.04Hobinheimn/m i'll try again next reload
06:08.14CIA-1703nymbia * r25211 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.toc: PeriodicTable-3.0: toc -> 20003 (lol)
06:08.28art3misshit
06:08.30HerioXuerian: Now that you say that, that would have to be correct >.>
06:08.33art3mistaht link is the EU  one
06:08.34vhaarrnymbia: hm, some things for PT3, I had them last night, I just have to remember.
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06:08.55nymbiavhaarr: ok ;)
06:09.08Hobinheimand i was so close to releasing... =/
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06:09.42Hobinheimyou see, when i release my addon, i'll get all the ladies, finally
06:09.46XuerianHerio: Of course :)
06:10.06vhaarrInstanceLoot.Naxxramas.The Four Horsemen, InstanceLoot.Ahn'Qiraj.The Twin Emperors, Tradeskill.Recipe.Crafted/Drop/Quest/Vendor
06:10.45Hobinheimis using return to shortcut functions bad form?
06:10.50vhaarrnymbia:
06:10.52vhaarr^
06:11.17vhaarrHobinheim: That's really up to the programmer, but yeah, I think it is.
06:11.22vhaarrHobinheim: I try to avoid it.
06:11.34vhaarrIn practice, though, it doesn't really matter.
06:11.37ckknightHobinheim: I do it now and again
06:11.44vhaarrnow and again, yes
06:11.45ckknightas long as it's clear what you're doing.
06:11.45Hobinheimi could have sworn that style was causing a bug...
06:11.49xlviihttp://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/15/iraq.executions/index.html < Saddam's half-brother and co-defendant hanged.
06:12.09Hobinheima universe check. if not a good value return. more code, very many paragraphs
06:12.39nymbiavhaarr: good call.  for instanceloot ones, i think i'll put the actual items in those, then have the bosses themselves (ie InstanceLoot.Ahn'Qiraj.Emperor Vek'nilash) point to those
06:13.00vhaarrnymbia: doesn't matter I guess
06:13.13pastamancerreturning early is a great way to avoid ridiculously deep nested ifs
06:13.16nymbiavhaarr: less duplicate data :D
06:13.42nymbiavhaarr: same goes for the seven dwarves in BRD
06:13.48vhaarrhehe
06:13.49vhaarrprobably
06:14.01vhaarrnymbia: I'm not done yet, that's just what I found so far.
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06:14.38nymbiavhaarr: ok, let me know ;)
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06:15.22ckknightxlvii: may George W. Bush drink the blood of every Iraqi man, woman, and child
06:15.27CIA-1703badhex * r25212 10SliceWatcher/ (SliceWatcher.lua SliceWatcher.toc): SliceWatcher: - Updated .toc and fixed the status display of the lock function.
06:17.49NightHawkTheSanewow. tomorrow's xkcd wins
06:18.38break19lets not discuss politics :) I'm quite sure I'd make enemies out of most of you lol
06:19.24NightHawkTheSaneeh, its easy to make enemies when discussing politics, all it takes is having an opinion. :P
06:19.30PogoTribalThis is retarded, people are being kicked offline to download a patch.
06:19.36break19<- evil, hatemongering conservative redneck.. but once you get to know him, he's pretty cool. :p
06:19.37PogoTribalDuring my Onyxia raid.
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06:20.43break19PogoTribal: my wife was kicked too.. (un)luckily she and her raid had already wiped in zg :p
06:20.56break19so nothing lost there heh
06:21.15durcynlet's boot people on release, then make them download a patch!
06:22.05KirkburnNo agUF menu??
06:25.04ThorgardKirkburn, on your FuBar.
06:25.14KirkburnNo options
06:25.22ThorgardKirkburn, panic.
06:25.31vhaarr:P
06:25.52KirkburnIt errors :)
06:26.16KirkburnWait - do I need the FuBar agUF addon?
06:26.23vhaarrNo.
06:26.24robjacno
06:26.27robjacit's included
06:26.28KirkburnNo wonder
06:26.43KirkburnDisabled, now let's see
06:26.49vhaarrAh, you were talking about that old FuBar plugin.
06:26.50RoartindonPogo: I was kicked to download 2.0.5 then
06:26.52Brunersis there going to be a massive amount of outdated addons tonight?
06:26.58KirkburnBruners, no
06:26.59break19robjac: the one he's likely referring to, is a simple plugin to show/hide raid frames.
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06:27.29Kirkburnlol, no wonder, I was looking at the wrong agUF button
06:27.34Brunersmy raidframes are bugged atm really
06:27.48Brunersif not in raid all the groupheaders are still showing
06:27.51robjacbreak19, ah, my mistake. :)
06:28.13robjacBruners, sure they are not simply unlocked or something? :)
06:28.28Brunersyep
06:28.42Brunersbut it maby it was fixed in that update i just downloaded:)
06:28.55Brunerscba to restart wow:P
06:29.06robjac<PROTECTED>
06:29.14robjacor /rl or /reload or whatever it's called :)
06:29.21Daemonaall 3 work
06:29.28Daemonaand are supported by ace ;)
06:29.32robjac;)
06:29.43Brunersanyhow cooldowns on buttons have stopped working
06:29.44robjacin addition to /script ReloadUI(), if I recall correctly?
06:29.50Daemonaaye
06:29.56Daemonai am still used to the last one *G*
06:29.57Fisker-btw Benumbed you still there?
06:30.23Benumbedno got hit by a big red truck
06:30.34break19Bruners: i have had the problem you are referring to.. my fix is to simply hide the frames for party and raid.. and then unhide them.. the bars go away
06:30.50Fisker-anyways has blizzard said why playmusic was nerfed?
06:30.55break19Benumbed: my bad.. no wait.. i drive a big white one :p
06:31.00bakkodai had the party pet frames sometimes empty with no names poppin up nonstop
06:31.04robjacI am tempted to make a statistic about how many times a day i do a reloadui :)
06:31.16art3misdoes clearfont hook with rpat?
06:31.17Benumbedcause it could be used to transfer data in/out game
06:31.19art3miserr prat
06:31.25Fisker-I think he just thought it was red because of the blood splattered all over break19
06:31.25Kirkburnart3mis, nope
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06:31.37art3misdang
06:31.42Fisker-retarded reason given the fact that you can still use local mp3 files
06:31.43Fisker-imo
06:31.45art3miswell that save me hours of headbanging fun
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06:32.06Benumbedthey check the mp3 files tho
06:32.20Benumbedcause inside interface, or w/e
06:32.24Fisker-ah
06:32.26Benumbedeasy way out
06:32.28break19Fisker-: ah, that was make sense then :)
06:32.37Fisker-So they can check if the stream was injecting something it shouldn't?
06:32.39Fisker-can't*
06:32.50Benumbedwhat I was thinking
06:32.52Fisker-That makes a bit more sense then
06:32.59Benumbedeasy way out and no headache
06:33.00break19dont get in front of a big truck, especially when he's hammering on it..
06:33.02break19:)
06:33.15Arrowmasterbut cant you point it to local files outside of your wow dir?
06:33.29Benumbedshrug
06:33.40BenumbedI tried, couldnt get it
06:33.43nee-laphm. EU did not get the 2.0.5 patch
06:33.49break19cuz it'll take the average fully loaded truck the length of a football field to stop from 65mph :)
06:33.52durcynEU was lucky
06:34.04break19whereas the car can do it in less than half that.
06:34.05nee-lapit was?
06:34.24Brunersdo Mobhealth work with aguf?
06:34.26durcyn2.0.5 was first released at 6 AM PST today
06:34.28break19nee-lap: yea.. it caused serious issues this morning.. but it seems to work now
06:34.29break19Bruners: yep
06:34.32durcynit broke authentication
06:34.41durcynand then they pulled the patch files without allowing 2.0.4 to log in
06:34.48nee-lapok
06:34.49Brunersthink i need to restart wow then
06:34.58CIA-1703sayclub * r25213 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder-koKR.lua:
06:34.58CIA-17SpellBinder:
06:34.58CIA-17- Updated localization koKR
06:38.16Brunersis there an addon to classify friends into groups?
06:39.23vhaarrBruners: I'd suggest that to Kemayo for AuldLangSyne.
06:42.17nee-lap'People who are friends because I have money', 'Real friends',.. :)
06:42.33Brunerssomething like that:)
06:43.04Adirelleisn't there an addon like "PlayerRating" or something like that ?
06:43.05nee-lap:P :)
06:43.34nee-lapWell, AuldLandSyne can add notes to players
06:43.37vhaarr'Business Acquaintances (people I buy gold from)'
06:44.15nee-lapoO
06:44.23vhaarrAnyone got a copy of that Myriad Condensed font used in some screenshots on the forums?
06:46.33nee-lapI do
06:47.15LePeR|Jauniadiablo font is awesome btw
06:47.43nee-laphttp://legionoflore.com/bin/Myriad.ttf
06:47.57vhaarrthanks
06:48.04nee-lap:)
06:48.14nee-lapI use it with evl_Fonts :)
06:48.47nee-lapI'm glad that addon was released yesterday, as now I don't have to use Clearfonts, which seemed a bit overkill as I only want one font for everything anyway :)
06:49.59vhaarrnymbia: Zul'Gurub is missing "Gahz'ranka".
06:50.21nymbiavhaarr: good catch, i'll add him
06:50.27Brunersrobjac: what was the whisperaddon you used?
06:51.18vhaarrnymbia: World bosses; Kazzak should be renamed and Highlord Kruul added.
06:51.35vhaarrnymbia: And those new ones in Outlands should be added.
06:51.50bverThe debuff highlighting for ag_uf doesnt seem to be working. Also its on by default, and I cant disable it :(
06:52.27nymbiavhaarr: is Kruul gonna be around at all after release?  i thought he was temporary.
06:52.32vhaarrnymbia: oh
06:52.35vhaarrI don't know.
06:52.47nymbiawe'll see.  i'll add him if he sticks around
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06:53.49nymbiawhat's kazzak renamed to?
06:53.57bverLord Krull
06:54.06bver90 sec supreme
06:54.30durcynhe heals for 2x too
06:54.35bvernah
06:54.38bverthats the same
06:54.41vhaarrnymbia: Doom Lord Kazzak.
06:54.42bver25000
06:54.47kenlyricI imagine krull will go away at some point.
06:55.01durcynkenlyric: they put krull in as a placehold for kazzak's old loot
06:55.05durcynkenlyric: he'll just go live in the tainted scar
06:55.09bversorry i was think you meant the replacement for kazzak :p
06:55.23nymbiavhaarr: did the world boss in blasted lands flat out disappear?  maybe that's where they're gonna keep Kruul.
06:55.48vhaarrnymbia: Yes, Kazzak is in Hellfire Peninsula now.
06:55.52durcynnymbia: kazzak proper was scene re-opening the dark portal and fleeing to outland, it's part of the lore
06:55.52LePeR|Jauniakruul will take his place in blasted lands i think
06:56.39nymbiavhaarr: yeah, but that one'll have a new loot table and stuff :)  and since Kruul has old-kazzak's loot table...
06:57.19KirkburnLePeR|Jaunia, yup
06:57.31KirkburnKruul replaces Kazzak
06:57.34Sparhawkedoes spellstone no longer make me immune to magic  damage?
06:58.00LePeR|Jauniadont think so
06:58.05Sparhawkeor...absorb magic damage?
06:58.07Sparhawkeugh what a nerf
06:58.10LePeR|Jaunianope
06:58.13LePeR|Jauniaits a dispell now
06:58.18vhaarrnymbia: o_O Ramstein the Gorger is missing from Stratholme.
06:58.20LePeR|Jaunia3min cd i think
06:58.36LePeR|Jaunia2 or 3
06:58.38Sparhawke3
06:59.01LePeR|Jauniagrants you a crit while equiped also
06:59.02nee-lapvhaarr: really? Do the encounters just skip him? Does the horde of Undead come right away now?
06:59.15vhaarrnee-lap: No, no, no.
06:59.29vhaarrnee-lap: I'm talking about PeriodicTable-3.0.
06:59.59nee-lapAh, okay :)
07:00.02nymbiavhaarr: that's an odd one..  lol
07:00.07vhaarrnymbia: indeed :P
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07:02.12vhaarr!
07:02.30vhaarrnymbia: Lord Alexei Barov missing from Scholomance :P
07:03.07nymbiavhaarr: weird.
07:03.12nymbiavhaarr: i'll add him ;)
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07:03.15vhaarr^^
07:03.33nymbiavhaarr: what're you porting that's finding all these?
07:03.38vhaarrMendeleev.
07:03.40nae-lapWhat? Does she not appear at all, just leaving us with the trash?
07:03.47nae-lap:P
07:04.04nymbiavhaarr: ooh.
07:04.09vhaarrnymbia: And The Ravenian from Scholo.
07:04.14nymbiavhaarr: ok.
07:04.16nae-lapMaybe she's having tea with Rammstein
07:04.25nae-lapOoh, a tea-party then
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07:07.26vhaarrnymbia: Plugger Spazzring from BRD.
07:07.43nymbiavhaarr: ok
07:08.05nymbiavhaarr: let me know when you're through the bosses so i can fire up the dataminer ;)
07:08.11vhaarrnymbia: sure
07:08.56vhaarrnymbia: The Beast from Lower Blackrock Spire.
07:09.21nymbiaUpper actually ;)
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07:09.49vhaarrIndeed, Mendeleev had him in the wrong spot o_O
07:10.05nymbiadunno how i missed this many in my initial data build.  /shrug.
07:10.12CIA-1703gamefaq * r25214 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-deDE.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Updated deDE Local
07:11.44vhaarrnymbia: "Knot Thimblejack's Cache" from Dire Maul, sounds like a chest.
07:12.13nazrmMaybe a stupid question, but does anyone know what this means:
07:12.15nazrm[2007/01/15 08:03:40-238-x1]: eePanels-1.0\core.lua:867: attempt to call method 'SetAllPoints' (a nil value)
07:12.31nazrmor how to fix it :p
07:12.33nymbiavhaarr: yeah. it's a quest to release this goblin using a key that drops randomly in the instance.  i'll throw it in there
07:13.34vhaarrnymbia: Seems PT1 had a category for "Dire Maul * Trash Mobs", including West and East, but not North.
07:14.07nymbiavhaarr: weird, especially considering that the trash mobs in there don't drop anything interesting.
07:14.14durcynvhaarr: E/W have unique BOP trash drops, i.e. phasing boots.  they don't show up in north.
07:14.29nymbiadurcyn: ah
07:15.46HealthYOU ARE NOT PREPARED!
07:16.02vhaarrnymbia: Seems the Elemental Invasion bosses are missing; Avalanchion, The Windreaver, Baron Charr and Princess Tempestria.
07:17.17nymbiavhaarr: hm.  should i add those under World Bosses or give em a new category?
07:17.31vhaarrnymbia: World Bosses subcategory?
07:17.32durcynHealth: Your massively underprovisioned server infrastructure is not prepared!
07:17.37nymbiavhaarr: yeah
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07:18.02vhaarrnymbia: And the summoned bosses in Silithus seems missing as well.
07:18.10vhaarrnymbia: But I don't have their names handy :(
07:18.23nymbiavhaarr: one sec
07:19.49Silviu-[2007/01/15 09:17:21-74-x1]: ag_UnitFrames-05-01-07\locales\ag_UnitFrames-deDE.lua:20: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3) near '['
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07:20.16nymbiavhaarr: High Marshal Whirlaxis, Prince Skaldrenox, Baron Kazum, Lord Skwol
07:20.24vhaarrnymbia: sounds right
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07:22.30PogoTribalHmm
07:22.32CIA-1703weab * r25215 10Automaton/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
07:22.32CIA-17Automaton: Bump toc to 20003; Remove specialevents dependency; Dismount now uses
07:22.32CIA-17new API; Unshapeshift only registers taxi event if druid or shaman; Default to
07:22.32CIA-17off function added to core; Wuss, Ding, Loner and Whine default to off; Fix bug
07:22.32CIA-17in Queue that would not reset a delayed battleground join timer if leaving a
07:22.33CIA-17queue and rejoining; Add option to queue to automatically join the battlefield
07:22.37CIA-17queue
07:22.37PogoTribalAny mods that can move the "Open Ticket" frame?
07:22.54AzurewrathPogoTribal: Visor2
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07:24.08PogoTribalAce2?
07:25.45vhaarrnymbia: PT1 had minedgem*, those seem missing in PT3? zulgurub<class>enchant, zulgurub<class>, ahnqiraj<class>cc, ahnqiraj<class>bon - I'm not sure what those translate to in PT3.
07:25.45DrZoothmmm, patch for 2.0.5
07:25.46art3misis visor the ace2 version of move anything?
07:25.46Silviu-DrZoot on US ?
07:25.46DrZootseems like blizzard is taking the quantity over quality approach
07:25.47DrZootSilviu-, well im an enUS client
07:25.47AzurewrathPogoTribal: yes, Ace2
07:25.47vhaarrnymbia: In any case, I think we're done for now.
07:25.48andremarDrZoot: live patch now?
07:25.54DrZootandremar, yep, just logged in and its trying to download now
07:27.27CIA-1703gamefaq * r25216 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-deDE.lua: ag_UnitFrames: typo fix
07:27.27nymbiavhaarr: minedgem* -> Tradeskill.Gather.GemsInNodes
07:28.39DrZootits only 2.63mb
07:28.39andremaraha, notes up on the site
07:28.39vhaarrnymbia: ah, thanks
07:28.40Azurewrathdr: US Client?
07:28.40andremar1 - For Internal Use Only - DO NOT USE!
07:28.40Fisker-weab you own :o
07:28.40andremarthats a recipe for disaster :p
07:28.40Silviu-Ty gamefaq :P
07:28.41Fisker-btw i was wondering if you can't add support for a black/whitelist on the auto-sell function?
07:28.44Azurewraths/dr/DrZoot
07:28.44Fisker-Kinda annoying having RP gear that's grey :(
07:28.50nymbiavhaarr: and the zg/aq ones arent there anymore.. i didnt think they'd be too important in.. 23 hours ;)
07:28.50vhaarrnymbia: :P
07:28.54weabFisker-: there is a whitelist, but it's part of the lua file
07:28.57Fisker-oh
07:29.02weabyou have to edit it by hand. i haven't exposed it to the ui
07:29.02Dekuna_~flee
07:30.36purlACTION runs away screaming
07:30.37Fisker-that's ok
07:30.37Fisker-i'll look at it when the zip is updated
07:30.37DrZootAzurewrath, yep
07:30.37Fisker-pitchfork ftw
07:30.38weabI had a friend complaining that it kept selling his large slimy bone that he likes to link to be obscene
07:30.42AzurewrathDrZoot: any changelog yet? Theres no 2.0.5 in atm
07:30.57Fisker-lol
07:30.57andremarAzurewrath: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/
07:30.57Azurewratherr, in EU.. i should go get some sleep
07:30.58Azurewrathandremar: thanks
07:31.05DrZootit doesnt look like its a very big patch
07:31.12HealthSucks if everyone has to download it in the way of 2.0.4
07:31.27Azurewrathpurl: yes, run!
07:33.15purlACTION runs around in circles screaming "My pants are blue!!!"
07:33.15andremarFisker-: if you want ui for autoselling crap, take a look at fubar_gargabeFu
07:33.18Fisker-As long as i only need 1 item whitelisted anyways it would be a waste
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07:34.48vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4210.0;topicseen
07:35.22ckknightthanks
07:37.15ElkanoBC retails haven't shipped, yet, have they? (I'll most likely have to download enGB :/ )
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07:37.34chuckgI've alread ygot it installed =D
07:37.41KirkburnElkano, I dled it
07:37.41OvrLrd-Qoooh, redoing gatherbook
07:37.48DhragaMorning all
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07:39.02ElkanoKirkburn, is it the real full retail or the beta client? since the beta client would be missing files like eg the intro and maybe more
07:39.06Fisker-Elkano some have gotten it :P
07:39.13Fisker-and the beta does work on retail
07:39.25Fisker-although it could break at anytime with some patch
07:39.37Feldiaanyone know what this "uifaster" actually does?
07:39.42Fisker-i downloaded the cd's myself and i'll be getting the key in a couple of hours
07:39.46ElkanoFisker-, that's why I'm looking for the retail client
07:39.55KirkburnFull
07:40.03Elkanourl? <3
07:40.11KirkburnThe torrent called TBC is enGB, isohunt
07:40.34Finthat's a bloody joke
07:40.34Silviu-ckknight, i have a stupid frame on my screen how was that command to print in chat what is there ?
07:40.36FinenGB my arse
07:40.44KirkburnIt is, cause I'm USING it
07:40.45Finthey still can't spell colour properly
07:40.51KirkburnOh, lol
07:40.53ckknightSilviu-: /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
07:40.56Fisker-I downloaded it from alt.binaries.boneless
07:41.05Finheh
07:41.07Silviu-Thank u
07:41.11Fisker-and the us version is on piratebay
07:41.14Fisker-as far as i've been told
07:42.10puband the isohunt link TBC goes to piratebay ?:o
07:42.50KirkburnElkano, got my PMs?
07:43.17XuerianWoo. Stack overflows are FUN.
07:43.23Fisker-The last email(containing items) will be the first my character sees in his mailbox when checking an hour later right?
07:43.51Finyes
07:43.55Fisker-alright :P
07:44.03Fisker-Then i don't screw up when i send bags to my new main
07:44.20Fisker-Annoying you can't create a blood elf yet and then just send stuff to him
07:48.43Fisker-if you create a character, but you don't log in will the character then be created in the sense of sending items to him?
07:49.03Fisker-cause i believe i heard somewhere that the character needs to be logged in once before being able to recieve mail
07:49.27OvrLrd-Qdont believe you have to iirc
07:49.47OvrLrd-Qbut doesn't hurt anyways :)
07:50.34Fisker-Well the US can already upgrade to TBC
07:50.41Fisker-but i heard they can't gain access to outlands and so on
07:50.45Fisker-But perhaps they can make characters?
07:50.54KirkburnI can upgrade too
07:50.56durcynstill greyed out here
07:51.01Fisker-oh
07:51.02Fisker-:(
07:51.06KirkburnI'm playing with the enGB client atm :)
07:51.21Fisker-Just pisses me off that blizzard haven't considered just putting it up from like a week ago and send out copies there
07:51.25KirkburnI can't upgrade my account though, of course
07:51.30Fisker-now they're putting most of the strain on it at midnight
07:51.35Fisker-thus probably crashing it
07:51.47KirkburnPositivity? What's that? :)
07:51.55Elkanowell, I wonder if my sister manages to get me a CE ^^
07:52.03Fisker-Got one the way
07:52.13Fisker-but i'm using standard edition to play from midnight
07:52.24Fisker-Hoping the EU CE problem does that i can upgrade my standard edition :)
07:54.52Elkanowell, I wonder how eu will activate their pet since blizz messed sth up
07:56.02Deviad__Fisker-, I got the retail :P
07:56.09Fisker-Considered we need proof of purchase the idea about it being printed with standard edition keys looks likely to me
07:56.23Fisker-So i think they screwed up on the cd-keys
07:56.34Deviad__Fisker-, my wow directory is 6,77 GB large
07:56.35Fisker-they aquire proof of purchase( i got both standard and ce)
07:56.45Fisker-i give them proof of purchase, and my standard edition is upgraded
07:56.49Fisker-now that would be nice
07:57.10Fisker-10GB here
07:57.11Fisker-flat
07:57.20Deviad__O_o?
07:57.30Deviad__Mine is 6,77 with addons
07:57.31Fisker-screenshos
07:57.50OvrLrd-Qare thhere any addons to cartographer which lets you set notes as waypoints to give arrows on your minimap?
07:57.55Fisker-also i probably have some MPQ's unpacked
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07:58.03Deviad__6,73 with the latest patches excluding addons and wtf
07:58.23|Kev|does anyone know of a straight, easy replacement for ct's mass mail?
07:58.31|Kev|gmail used to do it, but postal doesn't seem to
07:58.37OvrLrd-Qmines like 5.27
07:58.38Fisker-it does
07:59.46Fisker-Write in the recipient
07:59.46durcynPostal does.
07:59.47Fisker-and alt+click items
07:59.47Fisker-then it mails it
07:59.47|Kev|so you can stack up lots of items and leave it send them?
07:59.47Fisker-nope
07:59.47Fisker-you send them yourself
07:59.47durcynit works the other way around
07:59.48Fisker-but it does it by your click
07:59.49durcynput in the name, alt cick, and it autosends.
07:59.50durcynthen keeps the name
07:59.50Fisker-^^
07:59.50durcynlather, rinse, repeat
07:59.50|Kev|that'll work I guess, thanks
07:59.51durcynit's much cleaner than making a whole new frame
08:00.20|Kev|yeah
08:00.20|Kev|but more of a pain if mail's lagging
08:00.20durcynand has the same result, with one fewer total clicks!
08:00.22Deviad__Fisker-, what's the problem with standard edition?
08:00.29Fisker-None
08:00.31Deviad__I have bought a standard edition. :P
08:00.35|Kev|when mail was being slow, I used to stack them up ready, click send and amble off until it's done :)
08:00.36Fisker-But the collectors edition can't get the pet
08:00.43Deviad__O_o
08:00.46Fisker-They have to do something(not revealed yet) to get their pet
08:00.50Deviad__haha cool
08:00.51Fisker-But you need proof of purchase
08:00.59Fisker-My theory is that they printed standard edition keys on it
08:01.09Fisker-So i can exploit that to upgrade my standard edition to CE
08:01.19Deviad__so standard editions can't get new pets as a rule? O_o
08:01.25vhaarrnymbia: you can run the dataminer now, btw :)
08:01.33Fisker-They can't get the collectors edition pet
08:01.38durcynDeviad__: collectors edition gets a free miniature noncombat pet
08:01.51Fisker-all other pets are unaffected by this
08:01.51durcyni'll keep my murloc, thankyouverymuch
08:01.53Deviad__Ahroo, a useless thing
08:01.59DrZootif you nil the value part of a key - value pairing in a table, does it remove the key?
08:02.00OvrLrd-Qtalking about like the mini diablo and such
08:02.05Deviad__Fisker-, a useless thing shortly* :P
08:02.13Deviad__cool, I thoguht it was something more important...
08:02.18Deviad__but I guess I'll try to exploit too
08:02.19OvrLrd-Qno, not really :)
08:02.19Deviad__:P
08:02.22durcyniirc the collectors edition also gets some more pointless fluff in the boxed copy as well
08:02.24ckknightDrZoot: um... yes and no.
08:02.34durcynlike a map of how to go outside, and some blizzard branded underpants
08:02.45Deviad__durcyn, yeah, I didn't take the ce cos I don't want the posters and other useless things :P
08:03.07DrZootckknight, Would the key with a nil value turn up in a for k,v pairs(table) do ?
08:03.12ckknightno.
08:03.18durcyni just want electronic delivery.  give me a torrent of it a week ahead of time, then mail me the key
08:03.21Deviad__I'm seeding Burning Crusade retail on BT :P
08:03.26DrZootckknight, ok, thats what I was mostly worried about
08:03.32OvrLrd-QenGB or enUS?
08:03.36Deviad__enGB
08:03.41Deviad__I'm Italian. :P
08:03.41durcynforce me to drive to a shopping mall to pick up a box in 30 deg F weather with pouring rain coming down
08:03.42Fisker-I like whelp pets
08:03.45OvrLrd-Qwell who needs enGB :P
08:03.48nymbiavhaarr: i will in one sec. :)
08:03.48Fisker-Netherwhelp is gonna  be cool
08:03.56vhaarrexcellent
08:04.04Deviad__OvrLrd-Q, I'm so happy that there isn't any itIT version
08:04.14Deviad__cos when they translate games often they do it bad
08:04.15Deviad__:\
08:04.35Deviad__Plus many people can get a chance to learn some english words :P
08:04.54Deviad__Yesterday I talked in WOW with a guy that was so funny:
08:05.04Deviad__"How many items?" yes
08:05.10Deviad__"Are you a fag?" "Yes"
08:05.16ckknightlol
08:05.21Deviad__"What am I saying" "Yes"
08:05.34Deviad__He didn't understand a world of English. Not even "Do you speak English?" :P
08:05.39ckknightseriously?
08:05.43Deviad__word*
08:05.46Deviad__ckknight, seriously
08:05.46ckknightI'd guess non-European, then
08:06.13Deviad__I hope...
08:06.15durcynsome random southeast asian farmer?
08:06.31Deviad__Well, I dunno, he wasn't farming and had a guild too
08:06.32Deviad__O_o
08:06.46Deviad__and was helping some other guys with some quests
08:07.21vhaarrMaybe he was the one having fun.
08:07.23vhaarr:P
08:07.33Deviad__Well, he was the same with everyone I guess
08:09.05andremarhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/69.html
08:10.32ckknightHooray America!
08:10.33CIA-1703sayclub * r25217 10Automaton/modules/ (Ding.lua Queue.lua Unshapeshift.lua): Automaton: Updated localization koKR
08:10.50Elkanowell wrt funny story: when I did the Greench quest for X-mas, on Dec. 26, there was a level 31 hunter running around there. I helped him against a hord hunter of the same level and he directly tried to trade me 3g. I didn't accept but stayed i the arrea for a bit and talked to him about the x-mas quest a bit. his english was terrible... (I'm on a german server though). When I left, as a joke, I wished him merry x-mas on chinese (<3 google)
08:11.52Elkanoa few days later (he was level 45 by that time :/ ) he whispered to me in a language of which I think it was chinese... and I think 1.5weeks after I met him he had grinded the char to 60...
08:12.03Deviad__ckknight, is it possible to register burning crusade eu today?
08:12.26ckknightI wouldn't know, you do realize that I praised America only a few lines up
08:12.28Elkanoiirc there is still a ountdown on the page
08:12.38ckknightthat should've made it reasonably obvious that I'm American and not Europeans
08:12.42ckknightEuropean*
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08:13.14Elkanockknight, but iirc you also have an eu account, don't you?
08:13.28ckknighton beta, yes
08:13.39Elkanoah, only beta, k
08:13.43DhragaSo will there be any more ui changes straight away for the tbc release ?
08:13.56ckknightpossible.
08:14.02ckknightbut I really don't know
08:14.02Dhraga*sigh
08:14.07Dhragaok
08:14.09Arrowmasterthey just released 2.0.5 tonight in the US
08:14.20DhragaArrow, got a patch note ?
08:15.00Arrowmaster-  Increased the maximum number of realms that can be listed in the Realm List.
08:15.00Arrowmaster-  Updated the Terms of Use.
08:15.05Arrowmasterthen something about a new cvar
08:15.11Dhragaok
08:16.02Elkanolol, friend of mine just post sth like the following in our forums: "I've put some Alliance guilds on KoS... the way they behaved this week in front of the portal will make them wonder why BC is black and white 'though this isn't noted on the box"
08:16.22packetlsslol
08:16.52CIA-1703xuerian * r25218 10XLoot/ (XLoot.lua XLoot.toc): XLoot: Removed addon-blocked-messages-blocking. ffs stupid things. Attempted to add skip-bop-while-solo. Didn't work. Click the damn button yourselves, lazy bums.
08:17.30ckknightElkano: black and white?
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08:17.52Elkanowrt eu upgrade: https://upgrade.wow-europe.com/
08:18.12Silviu-xuerian toc`s also on all 3 and Anchorsaway
08:18.13Silviu-:P
08:18.14CIA-1703xuerian * r25219 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Small catches and fixes dealing with various bugs I fixed before christmas. Will reset your Monitor settings.
08:18.17Elkanock: well.. being dead has some small graphic effects ;)
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08:18.34XuerianWhat's the toc version now anyway? 20005?
08:18.44Kirkburn20003
08:19.01XuerianEven with the 2.0.5 update? meeeeh okay
08:19.04KirkburnYup
08:19.28Elkanowell 20003 was mainly because some changes to the secure header iirc
08:19.30Fisker-you're in a good mood Xuerian :P
08:19.32Kirkburn2.0.3 was a large small patch apparently :P
08:20.03vhaarrXuerian: 20005 will still work if they have "Load outdated addons" checked.
08:20.06XuerianFisker-: Can you tell? :P
08:20.25Xuerianvhaarr: It'll have to with XLoot, that's what I set it to and I ain't double-commiting it at the moment :P
08:20.33vhaarr^^
08:21.33CIA-1703xuerian * r25220 10XLootMaster/ (XLootMaster.lua XLootMaster.toc): XLootMaster: Bumped Toc. Fixed bungled "zomg am I ml!?!" logic.
08:22.39CIA-1703xuerian * r25221 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.toc: XLootGroup: Bumped toc by popular request (It's Fisker's skin). Have absolutely no clue if it actually works or not.
08:22.57Fisker-O_o?
08:23.14Xuerianhm
08:23.56CIA-1703xuerian * r25222 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.toc: XLootMonitor: * silvu's skin. (Missed toc bump)
08:24.58Fisker-so what does xlootgroup do?
08:24.59Silviu-xuerian silvu ? :(
08:25.13XuerianSilviu-: You wanted the tocs bumped :P
08:25.21XuerianFisker-: Replaces group-loot roll frames.
08:25.41Silviu-u forget an "i"
08:25.42Silviu-:P
08:25.54XuerianSomeone mentioned it not working in the thread, but since my EZ-Test raid group got borked, well, testing it is kindof hard
08:26.07XuerianSilviu-: My regrets for the affront.
08:26.14Silviu-<3
08:26.19nee-workXuerian: 'roll frames', I thought that had to do with rolling die, but now I think it has to do with what is displayed, the type of frame, right?
08:27.23nee-workI like that it can be configured to only show the loot of others if above a certain grade :)
08:27.23Xueriannee-work: Sorta. The big rectangular frame with need-dice, greed-coin (and pass-cross/x button).
08:27.24nee-workOh I see
08:27.24Xueriannee-work: That's monitor :p
08:27.26nee-workNow I remember :)
08:27.27nee-workAh
08:27.29nee-workWell, I use both :)
08:27.34Xuerian<3
08:27.43nee-workI like how it'
08:27.47nee-work*it's out of the way
08:28.02nee-workI don't like big frames when someone accidentally loots before the fight is over :)
08:28.37Xuerianheh =P. That was the goal. Glad you like it. Sleep-coma time now though. o/ all.
08:28.42nee-worksweet dreams
08:28.54Fisker-Anyone knows if a rolling restart restarts the spawn timers?
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08:34.27art3misPogoTribal: you said that aguf could create raid groups based on class.... how exactly do you do that?
08:34.41art3misit doesnt seem as cut and dry as the other raid frames
08:35.13art3misdo you jsut type in the class name?
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08:43.21PogoTribalartemis
08:43.27PogoTribalone sec
08:43.43PogoTribalgo to
08:43.57PogoTribalUnit Frames>Raid>Raid Groups
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08:44.23PogoTribalchange Group Name to the name of th eclass
08:44.32PogoTribalthen change the Group Filter to the name of the class in capital letters
08:44.46PogoTribalI.e. DRUID, PALADIN, PRIEST
08:45.05PogoTribalthe group name refers to the title of the anchor bar
08:45.32PogoTribalalso when after reloading, the group name will refer to the options menu under the Raid Groups
08:45.36RLD_osxif anyone happens to see Kaelten around please tell her oneview is borked. besides not updating the bank bags, it is not updating the regular bags.
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08:45.48RLD_osxor him..
08:45.51PogoTribalso you have to do it manually for each class
08:45.59bverpogo
08:46.01PogoTribaland if you want all 9 class, you'll need to add a raid group
08:46.06bverthey added something new
08:46.09bvergroup by
08:46.13bverclass
08:46.17PogoTribalyou can add a raid group under Unit Frames>Raid at the bottom
08:46.19bverthen use 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
08:46.24bveras group filter
08:46.52PogoTribaloh, if it's changed in a new revision then my instructions may be obsolete
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08:47.41PogoTribalmaybe you can help him out then cus I haven't updated lately
08:47.41steev64wtf
08:47.53steev64just got punted from my server and now i have to download the patch
08:48.57OvrLrd-Qwhich one?
08:49.11OvrLrd-Qpatch that is
08:49.22steev642.0.4.6314-to-2.0.5.6320-enUS-patch
08:49.42OvrLrd-Qah, yea, if you read the notes when you logged in they said they'd be doing restarts for TBC rollout :)
08:50.16bver2.0.5 is already live tho?
08:50.23steev64not till tuesday
08:50.28durcynyeah, they tried to push it this morning
08:50.35durcynand fucked everything up
08:51.28OvrLrd-Qoh wait, today is monday lol
08:51.41Brunersanyone know if the issue with bartender3 and warriors stance set have been fixed?
08:52.57Silviu-I hate this new thing in aguf for party pets
08:53.05Silviu-have to disable and enable Hide frames all the time
08:53.14Silviu-so i don`t get those grey bars :)
08:53.16Brunerswhy show party pets?
08:53.38Silviu-I don`t want to show them
08:53.40Silviu-But frames apear
08:53.41Silviu-:)
08:53.51Silviu-Wioth no hp in it but some grey bars :)
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08:55.47nee-workBruners: Have you tried the latest version?
08:56.07steev64better option, don't group with hunters :)
08:56.39PogoTribalsteev64: welcome to my Ony raid tonight lol
08:56.53Brunersnee-work: its not me having the problem, but i think the dude have it all updated
08:57.00PogoTribal6 people kicked for 30 min utes downloading the patch
08:57.15bveri dl'd it yester day
08:57.22bver:P
08:57.35Silviu-http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot011507105520in6.jpg
08:57.37bvermust have been one of the first servers for the rolling retsarts
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08:58.11PogoTribalI've never seen that warlock gear...
08:58.14PogoTribalbver: Gorefiend
08:58.18Silviu-:)
08:58.20Azurewrathmhm... how many Palas do i need in a raid to get full support from them? Doing some theorycraft for group setups in TBC.. but my highest Alliance char was lvl 20 or something..
08:58.22nee-workBruners: There were stance/shapeshift-fixes a bit back, so please have your friend make sure he has the latest version.
08:58.32durcynAzurewrath: 4
08:58.36PogoTribalAzure: 4
08:58.41Silviu-PogoTribal 6 t3 and webbed robe
08:58.46Azurewrathmhm.. thats to much :/
08:58.52Silviu-Well have gloves too but dark wisdom is better
08:58.54durcynmight/wisdom, kings, salvation, light
08:59.00Azurewrathand the important stuff only? I thought about 2-3.
08:59.09durcyncan lose light and still survive
08:59.15bveryeah im at 6 t3
08:59.19bverwarlock too!
08:59.26NightHawkTheSaneyou can get away with 3, might/wis, kings, and salv/light
08:59.26Azurewrathwhats light good for?
08:59.30OvrLrd-Qhealing
08:59.33NightHawkTheSanelight improves pally heals
08:59.38Silviu-U see those frames under my flag ?
08:59.47Silviu-When i am in Ab i get 5 of them ..
08:59.48NightHawkTheSaneso ideally only your tanks will need it, and they wont need salv, so you can use a single pally for that
08:59.59bveri think its the focus frame
09:00.02bverit looks like it
09:00.03Silviu-Must enable "Hide Party`s pet and disable again to disapear
09:00.06Silviu-No
09:00.07Azurewrathmhm.. guess i'll go with 3 then for 25 raids.. at least in theory
09:00.09Silviu-Is the party thing
09:00.12Silviu-Focus is up
09:00.33NightHawkTheSanethe "balanced" 25 man raid would be 3 of each, with only 2 of 2 classes.
09:00.35bveralso, debuff highlighting seems to be borked in the current revision of aguf
09:00.43durcynSilviu-: /shakefist at you, we only had two wraith blades drop ever :(
09:00.43bvercant turn it off
09:00.53Silviu-Hmm us .. 3
09:01.02Silviu-3 warlocks got them
09:01.02Silviu-:P
09:01.07bverjust got my wraith blade on last tuesday
09:01.39Silviu-But we stopped raiding and i still wanted something from kel`thuzad :(
09:01.46Silviu-Naja, egal
09:01.47Silviu-:P
09:02.04bverwe've been joint raiding with team ice
09:02.12bverfor the last 4 weeks
09:02.17durcynNightHawkTheSane: 2 each mail-wearers, is what i'm planning on
09:02.27bverbeen nice, got KT kills each week :P
09:02.50Fisker-hmm
09:02.53Fisker-they pushed 2.0.5 to eu
09:02.53NightHawkTheSanedurcyn: Yeah, though it'd be kinda nice to have 3 shammys. Depending on how the end-game plays out, you may be able to lose a rogue
09:02.58NightHawkTheSane(sadly :\)
09:03.23durcyneh, we already have to lose rogues due to warriors wanting to dps, will have to beat sense into them first
09:03.32NightHawkTheSanehehe
09:03.50Fisker-We've have lost 4 rogues due to the BS blizzard is treating us
09:03.58Fisker-s/have//
09:04.04NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i hear that a lot Fisker-
09:04.07durcynwtf?  you rogues and hunters are the golden children right now
09:04.19durcyncloak of shadows, shadowstep, such bs
09:04.27CIA-1703rabbit * r25223 10ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Click the fubar plugin to toggle frame lock.
09:04.34NightHawkTheSaneare you kidding? CoS is basically the only thing rogues got that was worth a damn
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09:04.36Fisker-cloak of shadows is nice
09:04.45Silviu-Nice ?
09:04.46Fisker-but it's the only thing
09:04.47Silviu-is imba :P
09:04.50durcynwhen a rogue can stunlock my 6K unbuffed HP all the way to the gound without me getting a shot off
09:04.53durcynsomething is badly broken
09:05.05Silviu-Oh, 2.0.5 on enGb
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09:05.08bverwhen rogues get 66 im running
09:05.13NightHawkTheSaneSilviu-: nah, hardly. it's the only real defense against casters
09:05.15Silviu-Hmm ... i hope i can still log in after i patch
09:05.24Fisker-exactly
09:05.38Fisker-and we had to use double cloak of shadows to even stand a chance against frost specced mages
09:05.40bverSilviu what server you on?
09:05.41Fisker-which were removed btw
09:05.50Silviu-Gorgonnash
09:05.56bvereu? or us?
09:05.57Fisker-And that i don't care about PvP
09:06.04Fisker-and neither does any of the 3 other rogues
09:06.12Fisker-We want PvE, and blizzard won't deliver
09:06.15Fisker-so we're rolling paladins
09:06.15Elkanosince he'S using enGB most likely eu ^^
09:06.16NightHawkTheSaneyeah :\
09:06.53bvermissed that =\
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09:07.17Silviu-Eu, de
09:07.47Silviu-> missed that =\
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09:07.49Silviu-Hmm
09:07.55Silviu-Can`t copy change notes
09:07.56Silviu-:D
09:08.22evlC:\Downloads\The Burning Crusade Europe English
09:08.24evlHAMMERZEIT!
09:08.33Silviu-Whish me luck :P
09:08.48Adirelle|workSilviu-, patch now should be in wow dir
09:09.13bverui acceleration
09:09.29Silviu-Works :)
09:09.32bveri think is all 2.0.5 has, and updated tos!
09:09.59nymbiai dont think ui acceleration accelerates anything.
09:10.17durcynEU doesn't even get UIFaster or the realm list increase, do they?
09:10.23Fisker-where can you set it?
09:10.28durcynconfig.wtf
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09:10.30nymbiadurcyn: why wouldnt they?
09:10.33steev64er
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09:10.39durcynnymbia: something i heard earlier, wasn't sure if it was true
09:10.40Fisker-didn't it say there was ui for setting it?
09:10.41nymbiaFisker-: cvar, there's details in the patch notes
09:10.48Kaeltenhow do I use tar or gzip to zip a directory?
09:10.53steev64you can't do PvE with a rogue?
09:10.53durcynFisker-: no ui. just a cvar.
09:11.19durcynKaelten:  tar cvzsf foo.bar.bz2 /path/to/files
09:11.19Tovortdurcyn: my european wow just downloaded a patch, guess we have to cope with 2.0.5 as we
09:11.23Tovortll
09:11.41durcynKaelten: er, z for .gz, j for .bz2
09:11.54Fisker-just that the cvar has been there for a long time
09:11.54durcynassuming your tar is that smart, otherwise two steps :o
09:11.57NightHawkTheSaneKaelten: man tar :)
09:11.58steev64durcyn: heh
09:12.01Fisker-or was that m2faster?
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09:12.19durcynsteev64: it's 3 AM, give me a break =P
09:12.20ElkanoSilviu-, alliance or horde?
09:12.24Silviu-Ally
09:12.26durcynsteev64: at least i use Gentoo!
09:12.33steev64durcyn: ricer!
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09:12.47Silviu-Elkano Littleone human warlock
09:12.55Adirelle|workoki, this time xchat is configured :)
09:13.05durcynno, i just hate binary packages with the burning flaming passion of a thousand hot hot suns
09:13.06Elkanowhen being ganked by "Die Superfreunde", send them greetings from me :)
09:13.36Silviu-Only noobs there i know them
09:13.37Silviu-:P
09:13.39durcynsteev64: especially binary packages with shit poor dependency management
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09:14.16steev6403:14 -!- steev64 [n=steev@gentoo/developer/steev]
09:14.17sbumorning
09:14.31durcynsteev64: i know :o
09:14.42steev64i use binary packages :)
09:14.48durcyngasp.
09:15.00steev64for the efika, i use em for glibc and gcc
09:15.01Adirelle|workevl, nee-work: I started reworking the blizzard-like texture of Baggins
09:15.14evlnice
09:15.27steev64and since i use identical flags to tinderbox, i use the packages it creates as well
09:15.32CIA-1703rabbit * r25224 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Fix onlyInGroup.
09:15.47Fisker-Anyone know if blizzard announce any figures on the WoW(Not TBC) Collector Editions
09:15.53Fisker-i.e. how many they produced
09:16.00Adirelle|workfor now I'm able to layer empty slot textures in section backgronud
09:16.17NargiddleyAdirelle|work, not too many changes to the .lua please. In the middle of a big rework
09:16.37Adirelle|workNargiddley: you may would to update last revision so
09:17.00Nargiddleyanother one ?
09:17.19Adirelle|workNargiddley: mom, I check the number
09:17.43tlundi just called my local EB Games here i Stockholm, they had only gotten 35 CE boxes... :(
09:18.36rpowersi've heard lots of stories of stores calling to say that the collector's edition pre-orders were over-sold and can't gaurantee availability
09:18.43rpowersbut i haven't heard about any non-CE shortages
09:18.55Adirelle|workNargiddley: last rev is 25224
09:19.40Adirelle|workNargiddley: wait, non, that the rep revision
09:19.56nee-workAdirelle|work: Interesting :)
09:19.58NargiddleyAdirelle|work, of the whole repository not baggins
09:19.59Lysitheatlund oh snap, did they have plenty of boxes tho?
09:20.04Lysitheanormal ones
09:20.15Adirelle|workNargiddley: so no, I didn't commited any change since your last two
09:20.26Nargiddleydont commit any then please
09:20.30tlundLysithea: when I asked "but you got a shitload of regular boxes, right?" he said "for everyone that has pre-ordered, yes."
09:20.38Adirelle|workNargiddley: no more for now, still working on new skin
09:20.44Lysitheamk
09:20.57Adirelle|workNargiddley: I may branch if you want
09:20.59NargiddleyAdirelle|work, theres a huge change coming, buts its secret :D
09:21.03Lysitheacause we're two going in without preorder ^^
09:21.06Adirelle|workNargiddley: :)
09:21.13nee-workevl: Do you know if it is possible to set the font for fubar plugins using evl_Fonts? I was wondering if those fonts being unaltered is due to when evl_Fonts is loaded?
09:21.20Adirelle|workNargiddley: btw, something were wrong with framepool ?
09:21.38evlnee-work: Should alter those too, since FuBar uses GameFontNormal afaik
09:21.45rpowersif you're in the US and you want a CE box, your best bet is probably a wal*mart. a wal*mart employee posted their sales info on Somethingawful, and they didn't do any CE pre-ordering and they will have stock at all stores of the CE
09:21.57Adirelle|work(damn, ckknight, you were right, xchat2 rocks)
09:22.04nee-workevl: Hm. They aren't changed for me though.
09:22.06evlLysithea, tlund: I just ordered my key from www.gamersloot.net, got the client download this friday and keys will be emailed on monday :)
09:22.12ckknightyep
09:22.22Nargiddleyyou were using a bag frame pool that diddnt exist, and the item frame pool was in the middle of the stuff i want to rewrite soon. I'd prefer no new code there for now
09:22.29tlundevl: they open the boxes and sell the keys online?
09:22.32Adirelle|workoki
09:22.40evltlund: yeah, you get a photo of the manual page with the key :P
09:22.43Lysitheaevl monday as in today?
09:22.43tlundevl: "monday" is today.
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09:22.50evlerr, wednesday ;D
09:22.51evltlund: I did that for the original release :)
09:22.54[Ammo]woot just got the confirmation mail, package containing TBC was sent very early this morning :)
09:22.57Adirelle|workNargiddley: er... wait, "a bag frame pool" that didn't exist ????
09:23.00tlundevl: what is the URL for the website where you enter the key, do you know?
09:23.09evlNo idea :)
09:23.09ckknighthttp://xkcd.com/c210.html
09:23.17evlckknight: D:
09:23.20evlHAMMERZEIT
09:23.33rpowersi parked my mage in a safe spot at the dark portal when i logged off
09:23.38ckknighthehe, yea.
09:23.43Lysitheaevl "WE WILL SEND KEYS -BEFORE- 1159pm 01/15/2007 GMT"
09:23.49Lysitheashould be sent today then
09:23.52evlnice :)
09:24.06evlI know a ton of people have ordered from them so I'll have to be patient
09:24.08Nargiddleyyou had calls to BagFramePool:Aquire(), and BagFramePool wasnt defined anywhere at all, only the itembutton one existed
09:24.26Elkanotlund, for eu it's http://upgrade.wow-europe.com so for US it could be http://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com
09:24.51Lysitheayah, I guess, but I'll be more content with an actuall box in my hands... and I'm not gonna cry if I dont get a box the first week
09:24.53tlundElkano: thanks.
09:25.07Lysithearealm stability will be an issue :D
09:25.14evlA box is fun for the first 5 mins :P
09:25.14bverso
09:25.19evlI'd rather get a cheaper box in a month
09:25.38bveris there any truth in baing able to gain exp from completed quests come BC?
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09:25.47Lysitheayou can
09:25.54bverthats what i thought
09:25.58evldrimor> hmm how can there be 67 lvl blue item in AH ?
09:25.58evl:D
09:26.09Lysitheabut you dont gain much traveling around turning them in instead of killing mobs in outlands
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09:26.11Aenslaedfarming the mobs infront of karazhan
09:26.14bvernice, my full quest log will be a nice boost!
09:26.16evlapparently there's level <= 70 drops in Deadwind pass already? :D
09:26.21Aenslaedis how you get L67 blues right now
09:26.30evlhunters solo them :/
09:26.34bveryea, i was solo farming those on my hunter tonight
09:26.43Silviu-evl and where on that page is the download link ?
09:26.48bverand the best part
09:26.55Health13 hours 34 mins!
09:26.56bveri got bugged, and had infinite mana regen
09:27.26evlSilviu-: I got a link in the mail after i ordered
09:27.36CIA-1703nymbia * r25225 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Various cleanup and minor additions to InstanceLoot and Tradeskill sets.
09:27.41nymbiavhaarr: ^
09:27.53vhaarrnymbia: yay
09:28.03Silviu-Oh ok :P
09:28.34vhaarrnymbia: Did you add the reagent sets?
09:28.59vhaarrnymbia: Supersets for Recipe Vendor, Drop, Quest and Crafted.
09:29.05nymbiavhaarr: yup
09:29.15vhaarrweird, didn't see them in the commit
09:29.39nymbiaTradeskill.Recipe.Crafted
09:29.44nymbiaetc
09:29.53vhaarrah
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09:39.18vhaarrWhere can I get WoW TBC EU online?
09:39.56ckknightyou go to a bay ... of pirates
09:39.59HealthHuh?
09:40.00ckknightbutt pirates.
09:40.26HealthI need sleep.
09:40.41[Ammo]I ordered from some dutch site vhaarr so can't help you
09:41.05nee-workIs there a european site where I would be able to purchase a key?
09:41.09ckknightsee, the Dutch make up the primary population of said butt pirates
09:41.22[Ammo]they cater to americans mostly though
09:41.27ckknightnee-work: www.gamersloot.net
09:41.31nee-workI ordered from two Dutch sites, but so far I still have to receive anything.
09:41.43nee-workthanks
09:41.44[Ammo]I ordered from dimensionplus.nl
09:41.52[Ammo]and got the confirmation mail this morning
09:41.56[Ammo]it's  in the post :)
09:42.05nee-work:
09:42.12[Ammo]ordered in october
09:42.13nee-workbol.com / dyabyte.nl here
09:42.15[Ammo]paid 3 days ago
09:42.26Lysitheabtw evl did you download the tbc client?
09:42.29nee-workI ordered in May last year
09:42.35nee-workand paid up front
09:42.38[Ammo]ouch
09:42.45[Ammo]I like dimensionplus
09:42.45evlLysithea: yeah
09:42.55Lysitheafrom their site?
09:42.56[Ammo]no complaints whatsoever and 10+ happy customers in my guild as well
09:43.01nee-workI didn't know dimensionsplus but normally have no problem with bol.com
09:43.07evlLysithea: yeah, I got a link when I ordered
09:43.13LysitheaCause I think my drive is broken
09:43.14vhaarr$50.50? o_O
09:43.17nee-workI'll phone them soon
09:43.24Lysitheasome cds work some do not
09:43.32[Ammo]paid 32.24 29.99 + shipping
09:43.44[Ammo]euros
09:44.08nee-worka bit less here, but you'll get it on time for sure and I might not, so I'm not sure paying less is that good :)
09:44.41CIA-1703sylfi * r25226 10PlayerRating/ (PlayerRating.toc PlayerRatingDisplay.lua):
09:44.41CIA-17PlayerRating:
09:44.41CIA-17- Updated the TOC.
09:44.41CIA-17- Fixed a small chat hooking error.
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09:45.01vhaarrSo, this is what I want: https://gamersloot.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1537 ?
09:45.04Lysitheaevl any chance you know the filename you downloaded?
09:45.12LysitheaI'll try to find it somewhere
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09:45.18Lysitheaincase my drive is broken
09:45.20Funkeh`heya
09:45.25vhaarrhi
09:45.28Ricoohello
09:45.34Fisker-playerrating =?
09:45.43Ricoois any author of ag unitframes online?
09:45.54[Ammo]probably not
09:45.59[Ammo]but maybe the rest of us can help ypu
09:46.05[Ammo]s/ypu/you/
09:46.07Lysitheaty evl cant pm back :)
09:46.19Ricoothe latest aguf , always highlights your target when you engage combat
09:46.29Ricooeven when you deselect the option
09:46.46Lysitheagotta register a nick here soon
09:46.53Lysitheawhen Im not too lazy ^^
09:47.11[Ammo]Ricoo: I suggest posting a bug about it on the forums (after first checking if it wasn't posted already)
09:47.33vhaarrIt has been posted already.
09:47.49[Ammo]guess patience is the thing then :p
09:48.17Adirelle|workNargiddley: (back) how does this can work on my PC ? oO
09:49.09vhaarrAnyone want to be listed as referrer on my gamersloot.net order?
09:49.17ckknightvhaarr: sure, do me
09:49.22vhaarr@gmail ?
09:49.25ckknightyep.
09:49.47xlviirofl, we got kruul down.. and a level 1 bank character ninja'd the epicz.
09:49.58OvrLrd-Qrofl!?
09:49.58[Ammo]kazzak loot :p
09:50.02vhaarrhaha
09:50.12nymbiahaha
09:50.17ckknightwhy was a lvl 1 bank on the raid?
09:50.23OvrLrd-Qand why wasn't it set to master looter
09:50.28nymbianot that you needed that empyrian demolisher anyway ;)
09:50.41[Ammo]we got him down with 35 or so
09:50.52[Ammo]after kiting him well away from the IF gates so nubs would stop dying
09:51.13[Ammo]he despawns fast
09:51.19Ricoo[Ammo] its already posted i see, thanks for advice
09:51.23[Ammo]so masterlooter might be too slow if everyone wants a piece of the pie
09:51.49NargiddleyAdirelle|work, how does what work ?
09:51.56Adirelle|workNargiddley: I noticed something annoying about itemtypes : ["Consumable"] = { "Consumable" } is actually something like ["Consumable"] = { "Consumables" } in french
09:52.02Adirelle|workNargiddley: framepool
09:52.11NargiddleyAdirelle|work, try creating a bag
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09:52.36Adirelle|workNargiddley: though I reverted all the bag frame pool changes
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09:52.52Adirelle|workNargiddley: in fact I tried to use them on bags, sections and items
09:53.11Adirelle|workNargiddley: but it was kinda complex and not really needed for bags and sections
09:53.33NargiddleyAdirelle|work, yeah i was going to remove the bag one before i noticed it wasnt even there heh
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09:54.15Adirelle|workNargiddley: so I reverted bag and section ones, but one seems to have pass through reverting
09:54.29Adirelle|workNargiddley: in fact, bags and sections are rarely "released"
09:55.01NargiddleyAdirelle|work, bags are never released at all
09:55.17Adirelle|workNargiddley: that's why I kept only item framepool
09:55.37NargiddleyAdirelle|work, also I diddnt really like how complex the pool was. Last thing i used one in was ~10 lines of code
09:56.30Adirelle|workNargiddley: ok, it was made to be the more generic, so I could reuse it if I had too (what I did at first with bag and sections)
09:56.37andremarNargiddley: I have yet another feature request for Baggins :p a way to only collapse items that are stackable
09:56.49andremarlike I dont want a stack of lock boxes, since I need to pick lock each of them
09:56.57andremarbut I want only one stack of runecloth with a total number on it
09:57.15Nargiddleyandremar, k
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09:57.31andremaris it possible?
09:57.36Nargiddleyeasily
09:57.44andremarnice :p
09:57.54Adirelle|workNargiddley: btw, it's nice that you started splitting the Core.lua into smaller files
09:58.03Nargiddleyin the middle of some big changes tho, i'll get it done once they're working
09:58.19andremaralso, dunno if this is baggins or the mail addon, but I like alt-clicking to add stacks of runecloth for instance to the mass-mail frame
09:58.20Adirelle|workNargiddley: as you noticed I'm not afraid of complex code, but long source files scare me :p
09:58.24andremarbut with baggins I can only add one stack
09:58.35andremarNargiddley: sure np :)
09:58.51sylvanaarAdirelle|work: haha try maintaining 20+ prat modules
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09:59.05sylvanaarsometimes i wish it were just one big one
09:59.19Nargiddleyi wasnt planning going past 2-3
09:59.28Adirelle|worksylvanaar: well, there is a tradeoff between number of modules and size of files
09:59.33Nargiddleyfiltering is getting seperated even more tho Adirelle|work :D
09:59.39sylvanaari know
09:59.54sylvanaari like lots of modules its good for teams
10:00.43Adirelle|worksylvanaar: modules enforces seperating things (at least locals), tho I may help to reduces side effects
10:01.16Adirelle|workNargiddley: really ? any planning on separating layout and/or skins ?
10:01.17sylvanaaryeah, i like them, i was just telling you they have their downside too
10:01.49NargiddleyAdirelle|work, plans to seperate frames, which would include skins
10:01.59Nargiddleyi'm using seperate differently tho ehehe
10:02.07Adirelle|worksylvanaar: I know, did you have already worked on any web application ? they generally have a lot of files too
10:02.08Nargiddleymight not be working tonight tho :/
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10:02.41Adirelle|worksylvanaar: and in badly-designed PHP apps, that hurts brain a lot...
10:02.48sylvanaarAdirelle|work: yes i have done a little of everything in my career
10:03.38Panyeis there an Ace alternative for CT_raidtracker?
10:03.45zirahAdirelle|work: have ever seen oscommerce ;->
10:04.02Adirelle|workzirah: never
10:04.10zirahlucky
10:04.43zirahit's a large shop system without any templating or real abstractions
10:05.14Adirelle|workzirah: but I worked on mantis, it is highly modular, but it is very,very well designed
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10:05.43Adirelle|workzirah: tho it's missing a template system
10:05.45zirahi know it, but we use bugzilla here :-(
10:06.41Adirelle|workNargiddley: as you noticed I'm at work now, so I won't commit anything in next 10 hours
10:07.02HealthBugzilla isn't that bad.
10:07.23zirahHealth: features are great, source IS bad
10:07.24NargiddleyAdirelle|work, i might not get this committed before i have to sleep, and work tomorrow
10:07.54Adirelle|workNargiddley: btw, as a "cosmetic" change, I was thinking of reordering the fubar dropdown
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10:08.09Adirelle|workNargiddley: and maybe make some submenus
10:08.38Adirelle|workNargiddley: as more options are added, it's becomes a quite large and badly ordered
10:08.45Adirelle|works/becomes/becomming/
10:08.55NargiddleyAdirelle|work, yeah had that prob in MainAssist as well
10:09.17NargiddleyAdirelle|work, my changes have touched the menu so it can wait
10:09.47Nargiddleytesting now, but its such a huge change i'll be debugging a while heh
10:10.05Adirelle|workNargiddley: you could commit it in a branch ?
10:10.21xlviimm.
10:10.56Adirelle|workNargiddley: btw, I thing I should write a "test suit" on a paper for my own use :p
10:11.31nee-work*suite
10:11.37nee-work*think
10:11.46art3mishrm
10:12.03art3misre-did my ui, eepanels works now but strangely my /r command doesnt anymore
10:12.05art3misyay!
10:12.11Adirelle|worker... maybe not "suit" :D
10:12.17nee-work:)
10:12.20CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r25227 10Prat/Prat-Experiments/ (. Copy (2) of Timestamps.lua): Prat-Experiments: All my bad code, false starts, and whatever else prat related that i dont put into prat
10:12.27Adirelle|work~x en fr suit
10:12.36Adirelle|workdamn
10:13.15sylvanaarfragile parser
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10:14.58Adirelle|worklet's say I wrote "test list"
10:15.01Adirelle|work:p
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10:16.08Nargiddleyholy crap working, so far
10:17.20nee-workwoo, a new Tower Defense: http://novelconcepts.co.uk/FlashElementTD/
10:17.24nee-workwith Warcraft graphics
10:17.43nee-workWell, the towers are from Warcraft
10:17.47CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25228 10Manufac/: Manufac: branch dir
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10:20.19CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r25230 10Prat/Prat-Experiments/ (9 files): Prat-Experiments: more junk
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10:26.29Koaschtenuhm either i am too stupid, or i missed a change in cartographer import :/ am i not supposed to have gatherer + import installed + activated modules for the gatherer data anymore?
10:28.01art3missyl
10:28.15art3misi dont suppose that you broke /r in prat somehow huh?
10:29.29odtnee-work: sexy
10:29.46odtlooks a lot more interesting than the old one
10:29.51nee-workodt: :)
10:29.53nee-workIndeed
10:30.01jjbi need a good howto for scrolling frames
10:30.37Arrowmasterrofl http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7504/gmpwnsp1.jpg
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10:31.28odtnee-work: too bad the thing won't let you acceess only the swf file
10:31.34odtfor maximum screen coverage
10:31.39cynyrArrowmaster: rofl
10:33.15rpowersnee-work, it doesn't measure up to the real elemental TD map
10:35.12Lysettlund you here?
10:37.09CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25231 10Manufac/Manufac/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Manufac: some initial chunks of changes. (don't expect this branch to be functional for a while.)
10:39.24NargiddleyAdirelle|work, think i've got my changes working :D
10:39.28sylvanaarHey nymbia, did you ever get to changing Glory? i did sorta -but then the change got lost when i was testing WAU
10:40.19Nargiddleyhmm, Adirelle|work, are quality colors working in the current version. I might have broken them :/
10:40.58Adirelle|worklast time I checked with my version, yes
10:41.04nymbiasylvanaar: i havent been keeping track, what still needs done?
10:41.12Adirelle|workbut I didn't and can't test last changes
10:42.15NargiddleyAdirelle|work, i must have reverted the path change when i reverted the frame pool. fixed
10:42.48NargiddleyAdirelle|work, what changes do you have uncommitted ?
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10:44.19Adirelle|workNargiddley: I just didn't upgraded to the last two revision you added
10:44.56Nargiddleyahh yeah, work. i keep forgetting heh
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10:45.52Nargiddleyah well, here goes nothing.
10:48.54Koaschtenhmmm hmm anyone know the name of that addon that adds a button in any vendors menu that sells your gray crap if clicked?
10:49.30ElkanoGarbageFu
10:50.06CIA-1703rabbit * r25232 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.lua: ErrorMonster: The add command can now accept global variables, such as /errormonster add ERR_BADATTACKPOS.
10:53.40CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25233 10Manufac/Manufac/ (Manufac-Defaults.lua Manufac-FuBar.lua compresssplit.lua): Manufac: add squisher for custom PT sets
10:56.24CIA-1703nargiddley * r25234 10Baggins/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
10:56.24CIA-17Baggins:
10:56.24CIA-17- Ripped out the filtering code, Sieve-0.1 is born. Still needs alot more decoupling to be usable as a lib by anything else
10:56.24CIA-17- Added Compress Stackable option
10:57.14KoaschtenElkano i dont want to drop it items i just want a "sell all crap" button ;)
10:57.57bverAnyone having an issuse with fubar, where it wont auto move the frames?
10:58.02Elkanowell, GarbageFu has such a button
10:58.20Koaschtenwell then the question is, can i disable the dropping? ;)
10:59.46Nargiddleyandremar, theres the compress option :D
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11:01.14CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25235 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: Rip out some code that'll no longer be used. Some other stuff too, I think.
11:02.03CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25236 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac-DefaultsBase.lua: Manufac: let's actually add the DefaultsBase file..
11:02.26Adirelle|workNargiddley: sieve ? :D
11:02.34CIA-1703morgalm * r25237 10MorgDKP/ (9 files):
11:02.34CIA-17MorgDKP:
11:02.34CIA-17- Fubar Plugin support
11:02.34CIA-17- List DKP function
11:02.34CIA-17- slash command handler
11:02.35CIA-17- removed PET localization
11:02.38NargiddleyAdirelle|work, filtering is all a lib now
11:02.47Nargiddleytold you I was seperating it more :P
11:02.56Adirelle|workit see :)
11:03.21Adirelle|workhow, I thought filtering could somehow be cached
11:03.27Adirelle|works/how/oh/
11:03.34Nargiddleyit is mostly cached
11:03.44Nargiddleysome of the rules could do with caches tho
11:03.45Adirelle|workI meant each rule result
11:04.03Nargiddleyyeah me and nymbia already talked about that one
11:04.05Adirelle|workI think tooltip's or name's rule should
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11:04.27Adirelle|workothers ain't too time consuming I guess
11:04.47Nargiddleyi diddnt think the name one was too bad
11:04.56Nargiddleyat least not on the same scale as the tooltips
11:05.07phyber~seen morgalm
11:05.48purlphyber: i haven't seen 'morgalm'
11:05.50Adirelle|workwell... with the caching as explained in coding tips (table with metatable) you compare a key lookup and a string pattern matching
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11:06.35NargiddleyI agree its faster, question is, is it slow enough in the first place to bother
11:08.09Nargiddleyoptimizations like that i'd prefer to do myself as well
11:09.08Nargiddleynew self contained features i dont mind you adding, but reworking existing code i'd rather do
11:09.18Adirelle|workI notice :)
11:09.34Adirelle|workbtw, each rule could have its own "cleanup" code
11:09.46Nargiddleyyeah, that was one of the planned cleanups
11:10.09Nargiddleyit would actually be a setdefaults now, that function already cleaned up a bit
11:11.43Adirelle|workNotice I dunno if you can release Sieve, as I heard libs shouldn't depends on other libs (but I may have misunderstood)
11:12.03Adirelle|work(and some existing libs actually do)
11:12.15Nargiddleythey can depend on other libs, just not other full addons
11:12.38Nargiddleywell the *could* but kinda defeats the purpose of a lib heh
11:13.12Adirelle|workNargiddley: next step in Sieve is allowing any addon to register new rules :D (kidding)
11:13.30Nargiddleyactually that is one of the steps i've thought about :P
11:13.48Adirelle|workit would require some OO-ing I think
11:13.53Nargiddleynot really
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11:14.19Adirelle|worknotice as it currently, it almost is OO
11:14.28Nargiddleyalmost
11:15.01Elkano*unrelated joke spam* http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070114
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11:15.22Lockarnyo
11:15.35Nargiddleyit does need alot of cleanup to release as a standalone lib, but the annoying bits over heh
11:15.35Adirelle|workany comment on skinning code ?
11:15.44Nargiddleylooks good so far
11:15.46Lockarnwhy the hell do i keep getting up an extra frame with star raid icons in it? seems to be pets, and hiding frame doesent work
11:15.51Lockarnwhat kinda frame is this?
11:16.30Nargiddleycouple small graphical probs, but thats just the definition. code looks solid
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11:17.59Lockarnwith AG UF that is
11:18.11Lockarnlike i keep getting all these kinda shit frames up
11:18.47Adirelle|workI'm working on making blizzard prettier
11:19.11Nargiddleywas just the title that looked off to me, rest was fine
11:19.11Adirelle|worki'll add attributes and methods while refining it
11:20.06Adirelle|workactually, I think I'll need to add cell width, height and offsets
11:20.19Adirelle|workI'm trying to layer blizzard's bag texture behind items
11:20.26CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25238 10Manufac/Manufac/ (7 files): Manufac: and some more tearing things out of code.
11:20.38Nargiddleyi wouldnt bother, seems close enough as it is
11:20.39Adirelle|worktheses textures are 42x41 per item
11:21.05Nargiddleythe item frames should be the same as the bliz bags
11:21.23Adirelle|workwell... in fact the empty space is really ugly, because of lack of a good tileable background
11:21.56CIA-1703kodewulf * r25239 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (Cartographer_Vendors.toc addon.lua credits.txt): (log message trimmed)
11:21.56CIA-17Cartographer_Vendors
11:21.56CIA-17* New features
11:21.56CIA-17<PROTECTED>
11:21.58CIA-17<PROTECTED>
11:21.58Nargiddleymaybe nick a piece of the main bank window ?
11:22.00CIA-17<PROTECTED>
11:22.02CIA-17* Updated TOC
11:22.05Nargiddleythats got some big sections doesnt it
11:22.22Adirelle|workSo I'm going to reduce "empty space" to be a section separator
11:22.44CIA-1703kodewulf * r25240 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (Cartographer_Trainers.toc addon.lua credits.txt): (log message trimmed)
11:22.44CIA-17Cartographer_Trainers
11:22.44CIA-17* New features
11:22.44CIA-17<PROTECTED>
11:22.45CIA-17<PROTECTED>
11:22.47CIA-17<PROTECTED>
11:22.49CIA-17* Updated TOC
11:22.54Adirelle|workand to add a background texture on section titles
11:23.07Adirelle|work(this last will need some texture work tho)
11:23.19OvrLrd-Qis there a plugin/addon to Cartographer that lets you mark notes as waypoints on your minimap so you get an arrow?
11:23.23CIA-1703kodewulf * r25241 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua:
11:23.23CIA-17Cartographer_Quests
11:23.23CIA-17* New features
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11:24.23RobTheDudelol@tiny smiles
11:24.40Adirelle|workOvrLrd-Q: I don't think so but it would be an interesting module
11:24.54OvrLrd-Qabout the only thing I miss from MetaMap
11:25.22Adirelle|workNargiddley: yep, sorted all-in-one looks quite "empty"
11:25.29Adirelle|workcan't do much about this :s
11:25.46nee-workCan you give a screenshot of the all-in-one look?
11:26.23Adirelle|worker... I would if I had wow on the hand
11:26.34nee-work:)
11:26.44nee-workNo WoW at work here either
11:27.06Adirelle|work(hmm... that last sentence may no make sense : "under the hand" ? "at hand range" ?, "handy" ?)
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11:27.22Stephmwnee-work: but, that's what desktop-replacement laptops and 3G are for :)
11:27.23NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle: "At hand" or "handy" :)
11:27.46nymbia"on hand" works just fine :)
11:27.55NightHawkTheSaneor that, yeah
11:28.04NightHawkTheSanewelcome to english, where there's seven thousand ways to say the same thing.
11:28.09cynyri hate whoever linked that flash TD thingy
11:28.14nee-workStephmw: Well, I have a Sony sz1xp which can run WoW just fine, but I don't bring that to work
11:28.59nee-workAdirelle|work: A different paper item?
11:29.27Lockarnguys
11:29.35Nargiddleynee-work, http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1535/aioblizbh7.jpg
11:29.44Lockarnwith AG UF i keep getting the party pet frames up, and after hiding them it repop
11:29.50nee-work:)
11:29.51Lockarnwhat am i doing wrongz0r
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11:30.00nee-workThanks, looking at it now
11:30.24CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25242 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: My tabs could beat up your spaces!
11:30.25andremarheh, for the past 2-3 weeks people come here complaing they cant get party pets in ag_UF, and now everyone is like "omg, I keep getting partypets"
11:30.28nee-workHm. Interesting. I'll have to try that. I wonder, when selecting that layout, does it delete your current configuration?
11:30.28andremar:p
11:30.41nee-workag_Uf has party pets now?
11:30.53Nargiddleynee-work, all bags and edited categorys yes
11:31.02NightHawkTheSaneIs there a way to save layouts yet?
11:31.05Nargiddleynot completely new categories tho
11:31.09Lockarnandremar, how do i completely remove party pets?
11:31.20Nargiddleycan switch ace-db profiles then try it out tho
11:31.25nee-workNargiddley: oki, I'll have to make a backup before I try it then
11:31.29Nargiddleythen switch back to keep your old settings
11:31.49andremarLockarn: have no idea :)
11:31.56Adirelle|workoh... Nargiddley: did I say that consumable spells differently for itemtype and subitemtype in french ? :(
11:32.11NightHawkTheSaneAlso, I like that bliz texture :)
11:32.20NargiddleyAdirelle|work, hmm thats going to be a pain
11:32.43NargiddleyAdirelle|work, i have to change Sieve to use its own locals. I'll fix it then
11:32.56Adirelle|workNargiddley: didn't noticed before all-in-one sorted, as in default profile we are not using consumable category
11:33.18CIA-1703nymbia 07Cleanup * r25243 10Manufac/Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: Last little changes for tonight
11:33.22Adirelle|workNargiddley: i don't see many good solution here :s
11:33.39Nargiddleymove from "Consumables" = true
11:33.44vhaarrnymbia: How can I mimick PT1TradeSkillsEmbed:GetRecepieUse with PT3?
11:33.53vhaarrnymbia: "-- Returns a table of recepies this item is used in, or nil if no known use"
11:34.04Nargiddleyto TYPE_CONSUMABLE = "Consumable", SUBTYPE_CONSUMABLE = ...
11:34.06Adirelle|workNargiddley: one would be to add "type-Consumables" and "subtype-Consumables", maybe for all
11:34.17haarmanyone who ordered their TBC from amazon had it dispatched yet?
11:34.27Lockarnnoone knows? i keep getting up some empty bars in latest AG UF
11:34.29Nargiddleyit'll be to all local variables for localization in the lib anyway
11:34.32Adirelle|workhaarm: shipment planned on 16th :s
11:34.42nee-workmine too
11:34.43Lockarnwhen in raid/party
11:34.57haarmwhat a cockup, when wow went live they made plans so you got it early :(
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11:35.26nee-workI ordered two copies at different companies hoping one of them would deliver on time :
11:35.31nymbiavhaarr: actually, i was working on that stuff ;)  i'm gonna make sets that contain all the mats for a given item as their value. ie, "12315:12216x1;14745x3;13321x2"
11:35.33Adirelle|worknee-work: loool
11:35.43vhaarrnymbia: cool
11:35.46Adirelle|worknee-work: and I will cancel one, or have a spare box ?
11:35.54vhaarrnymbia: In other news, PT3 contains way too much data :P
11:35.56haarmi've had this since yesterday: Delivery #1: Dispatching Soon     We are preparing these items for dispatch and this part of your order cannot be cancelled or changed.
11:35.57nee-workI'll have a spare one
11:36.03nee-workOne is CE, the other normal
11:36.09nymbiavhaarr: it'll need a custom function to parse those values out, but it should do the trick.
11:36.14nee-workBut so far it seems neither will arrive before the 16th
11:36.23nymbiavhaarr: i do what i can. ;)
11:36.30vhaarrnymbia: The drop set for The Beast, Weaver and Magmadar contain Rugged Leather, for example.
11:36.48Adirelle|worknee-work: I decided to be patient, just to avoir heart attack
11:36.52Adirelle|works/avoir/avoid/
11:37.07Adirelle|workgotta go hunt my lunch
11:37.08Adirelle|work++
11:37.12haarmoh well, at least we wont have to deal with the mad shit in hellfire
11:37.27nee-workAh.
11:37.33nee-workEnjoy your lunch ;)
11:37.47nymbiavhaarr: yeah... i'd like to implement something to throw out items, say, 2 quality levels below the top thing the boss drops.. but then we lose some important stuff like qiraji insignias
11:37.56Lockarnwonder why ag releases a fucked ag uf
11:37.56vhaarrnymbia: right
11:37.59vhaarrnymbia: :(
11:38.20nymbiaLockarn: because he dislikes you. deeply.
11:38.21Koaschtenhmmm translation error in cartographer for german version of icecap
11:38.23Koaschtenhttp://ace.pastey.net/5124
11:39.36nymbiaKoaschten: that looks like it's in your savedvariables.. did you use one of those premade databases?
11:40.14Lockarnso, noone know why i get up like a set of new frames, wich seem to be empty, and also seem to be some kind of party pet frames when in a raid/party?
11:40.50Koaschtennymbia yeah the one from the reed.org that was linked @ wowace forums
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11:41.58nymbiaKoaschten: then there's probably a bad entry in there ;) search that file for "eiskappe" and get rid of that entry, as i'm fairly sure Carto_Herb stores that stuff in english.
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11:42.46Koaschtenkk, i took the data from http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4206.0 last post
11:42.47Koaschten;)
11:42.49ZealotOnAStickI was amused that reet.org is changing to support cartographer instead of gatherer.
11:43.12Koaschtenppl know a good addon when they see it ;)
11:44.05Koaschten(12:35:56) (nee-work) I'll have a spare one
11:44.05Koaschten(12:36:02) (nee-work) One is CE, the other normal
11:44.07Funkeh`yeah because it says -Ace2- at the end of it, lol
11:44.17Koaschtenyou know that the pet is key-bound when upgrading?
11:44.17nee-workKoaschten: What about it?
11:44.34nee-workEr, I know now :)
11:44.44Koaschtenjust thought i would warn you ;)
11:44.45nee-workSo I should wait for the CE one to play :
11:44.50nee-workboo :|
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11:45.04Koaschtenwell if you are playing wow-eu though
11:45.07Koaschtenyou could try to cheat
11:45.19Koaschtenas the eu-CE does contain a pet, but the key doesnt trigger that ;)
11:45.20nee-workIs the pet character bound? Or can any character of the same account use it. Yup I am in the EU.
11:45.26Koaschtenso you could say i have a CE but no pet
11:45.37Koaschtenpet for any char on ce-upgraded account
11:45.50Nargiddleynee-work, every char on the account can get one
11:45.57nee-workNice.
11:47.08Lockarnso, noone know why i get up like a set of new frames, wich seem to be empty, and also seem to be some kind of party pet frames when in a raid/party?
11:47.19vhaarrnymbia: anyway, let me know when you've got the recipe used-in stuff done, I can't convert mendeleev before that.
11:47.27Fisker-I hope i can upgrade my standard edition to CE
11:48.39Arrowmasterbc standard to bc ce?
11:48.45vhaarrnymbia: And someone should convert GarbageFu, maybe you should do that one? Or should I spend more time on converting stuff? :P
11:48.56Koaschtendont think so Fisker-
11:48.58NargiddleyAdirelle|work. does this look better ? http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3329/newbgjl2.jpg
11:49.13nee-workThat looks better to me :)
11:49.17nymbiavhaarr: ok.  the structure is actually there in the dataminer, i've just been holding off putting it in to see if i can think of a way to get the data a bit smaller.. the resulting strings are really, really huge.
11:49.19nee-workLess washed-out
11:49.23Fisker-Arrowmaster yeah
11:49.28vhaarrnymbia: hehe
11:49.29Nargiddleygot a free rock texture and played with the coloring
11:49.33vhaarrnymbia: maybe keep it in a separate library
11:49.34Fisker-Rumor has it that the CE's are printed with a standard edition key
11:49.41Fisker-I get my Standard Edition before CE
11:49.42nymbiavhaarr: i still havent even finished converting all my own addons over, lol ;)
11:49.51vhaarrnymbia: :D
11:49.56Fisker-So i hope that my reciept will fool them into upgrading my standard to CE
11:50.09phyberFisker-: that would be nice.  since my standard one has arrived before CE too :)
11:50.13nee-workHm. Can the top-bar made brown, leather-like? I think that's what the default bags look like, but I am not sure
11:50.32Nargiddleyyeah the top bar looks wrong there, not sure why :/
11:50.49ArrowmasterFisker-: but you actually have the CE ordered too?
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11:51.02Fisker-yeah of course
11:51.28Arrowmasteri would say just wait on the CE to upgrade your account
11:51.53Fisker-The pet isn't as important as the up to 16 hours i might have to wait
11:51.58KoaschtenFisker- that is true for the Europe CE's
11:52.24phyberthe only think you get for using the CE key is the pet though, right?
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11:52.42Koaschtenso if you have a europe CE i would just risk it as you have to go through the hassle with gm stuff anyway to get the pet
11:52.54Koaschtensee wow-europe.com in the news
11:53.55Enigmahello everyone, anyone know if you are able to make an external reference from your wow mods?
11:54.15Fisker-I hate blizzard btw
11:54.18Arrowmasterdefine external reference
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11:54.31Fisker-I've been camping in Alterac Mountains for like a week now
11:54.34abbat_wmorning guys
11:54.50nee-workWhy are you camping there Fisker?
11:54.59Lockarnso, noone know why i get up like a set of new frames, wich seem to be empty, and also seem to be some kind of party pet frames when in a raid/party?
11:55.02EnigmaI have a sql database on a machine, I want to know if it's possible to send a query to it and update my xml files with the result
11:55.04Koaschtenckknight is athere a reason why noteshare doesnt share outland nodes that where gathered during beta? a friend copied over his saved variables but cartographer isnt sharing it
11:55.08Fisker-http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6327
11:55.10Arrowmasterno
11:55.17Fisker-stupid spawn time is like 30 hours
11:55.22Lockarnckknight,  you able to help me with this frame stuff?
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11:56.05Fisker-I believe that noteshare only shares notes from the current zone
11:56.14abbat_w~seen miles
11:56.47purlmiles is currently on #wowace (9h 24m 13s), last said: 'fatali-li-li-li-li-li-li-li *CLUNK* WoW has encountered an critical error'.
11:56.47nee-workInteresting
11:56.47abbat_wMiles!
11:56.47Fisker-Miles!
11:56.47abbat_wCan you please fix errors with BarFader for agUF?
11:56.51abbat_wI can't live w/o you mod ;)
11:57.20abbat_wAnd btw
11:57.35abbat_wCkk make incredible good addition to cartographer
11:57.58abbat_wNow cartographer shows players group numbers on BG BattleField map
11:57.59nee-workWhich errors abbat_w?
11:58.21abbat_wnee-work, don't have screenshot at this time
11:58.26nee-workoki
11:58.35abbat_wBut if you install aguf + aguf_barfader you see it
11:58.43nee-workCan you describe the error?
11:59.04abbat_wDon't remember error, sorry
11:59.36abbat_wBut i make screenshot today sure
12:00.15nee-workI mean - Please describe what you see. Is there a graphical glitch? Do you see something which should not be there?
12:00.23abbat_wno
12:00.34abbat_wjust error box with desrciption of error
12:00.43abbat_wno visual bugs or something else
12:00.46nee-workok
12:01.08Fisker-http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/pirate.swf
12:01.15Fisker-somewhat nsfw
12:01.22nee-workPlease consider using Bugsack/Buggrabber, after which you can paste the error to say, ace.pastey.net and give us the link
12:02.10abbat_wYep, but wowace tooo slow last days and i don't update my addons
12:03.01grollpostal author around?
12:03.12nee-workwowace.com/files works fine here. And indeed - make sure you have the latest version of your addons before reporting a bug, as it may already be fixed.
12:03.12Fisker-nope
12:03.27Fisker-nee-work you work for blizzard?
12:03.27grollok on to the forums then :D
12:03.29Fisker-:P
12:03.45abbat_wnee-work, sure. i always try to d/l latest version then ask about errors ;)
12:03.53nee-workokidoki :) Just checking
12:03.57nee-work:P
12:04.03CIA-1703rabbit * r25245 10oRA2/ (18 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: Random minor cleanup.
12:04.35nee-workIf I worked for Blizzard I'd ask him to clear out his WTF/WDB/Interface dirs :)
12:04.39grollah it's grennon
12:05.20Fisker-heh nee-work just seemed "blizzard-y" with all the indeed'ing and stuff
12:05.31HjalteIs it a blizzard error that the last line of tooltips sometimes is out of the tooltip?
12:05.32abbat_wOk guys, BC is coming. Can someone advice me with XP track addon (FuBar_XPFu maybe), quest tracking addon and maybe something else for 60 to 70 lvl grind ;)
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12:06.02Fisker-questsfu
12:06.06Fisker-fubar_experiencefu
12:06.07nee-workFisker-: :) Well, I'm used to support
12:06.11Fisker-and fubar_xpfu
12:06.21Lockarnhttp://home.online.no/~a-anhole/files/frames.jpg <---  i keep getting those "grayed" out thin frames 24/7 popping up, when i enter an AV, they are all colored silver/gray (solid), and when i hide party pets they disapear and re-appears as that. What can be causing this?
12:06.22abbat_wHjalte, possible yes because i don't have any tooltips addons and sometimes last line is out of tooltip border
12:06.25Lockarni got latest AG UF
12:06.29Lockarnneed aid(s)
12:06.40Hjalteabbat_w: How annoying.. But thanks.
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12:07.40phyberis BC live in the US or does it start at the same time as EU?
12:07.54Lockarnnoone know? :((
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12:08.26phyberLockarn: are you using the latest agUF from WoWInterface?
12:08.29Lockarnyes
12:08.35Lockarnno
12:08.38Lockarni use from wowace
12:08.39haarmphyber, i assume they go live at midnight in the respective times
12:08.50phyberLockarn: oh, so you're using a development version?
12:08.52Lockarni use WinAceUpdater to update my mods
12:08.53phyberstop complaining.
12:09.10phyberif you use the development version, expect broken code :)
12:09.13CIA-1703rabbit * r25246 10SimpleChatMods/channelnames.lua: SimpleChatMods: channelnames: Make sure it's a string we're modifying before we try to do so.
12:09.18Lockarnnoob code
12:09.21phyberit will be fixed when it gets fixed ;)
12:09.29haarmif you want to be cutting edge, report bugs, and deal with them until they are
12:09.29phyberif it's noob code, fix it yourself :p
12:09.42nymbiaif it's noob code, make a better one.
12:09.48haarmteehee :D
12:11.29evlCreated an option to disable UI Acceleration for users of select video cards experiencing graphical corruption of the User Interface. To utilize this option, enter the following line to the Config.wtf file, located in the WTF subfolder of the game:
12:11.29evl"ui acceleration"
12:11.30evlhow do you accelerate putting bitmaps on screen ;P
12:11.30CIA-1703phyber 07phyber * r25247 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2_Healing/NanoStats2_Healing.toc:
12:11.30CIA-17NanoStats2_Healing:
12:11.30CIA-17- TOC update
12:11.30haarmevl they're not bitmaps for a start
12:11.30haarmthey're precompressed DXT textures
12:11.38evlwas there ever a performance problems with them? :P
12:11.45evl-s
12:11.53Teazle"experiencing graphical corruption"
12:11.55haarmdepends if your graphics card has buggy onboard dxt decoding i guess :P
12:11.56CodayusDisable UI acceleration and see if you get a performance problem. : -)
12:11.58Lockarni dont even see ag uf on wowinterface.com
12:12.00Teazleim assuming it was to fix that :p
12:12.06CIA-1703phyber * r25248 10SeriousBuffTimers/SeriousBuffTimers.toc:
12:12.06CIA-17SeriousBuffTimers:
12:12.06CIA-17- TOC update
12:13.14nymbiaCodayus: its disabled by default ;)
12:13.33Codayus....hm.
12:13.56CIA-1703nargiddley * r25249 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua Textures/AltBG.tga): Baggins: Better background for the blizzard skin
12:14.07nymbiaits some weird CVar to fix a problem with some graphics card.
12:14.25Nargiddleynight everyone
12:14.31CIA-1703phyber * r25250 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua:
12:14.31CIA-17FuBar_RestFu:
12:14.31CIA-17- Fix 'for a,b in table' issue (needed pairs())
12:14.31evlI got that with my board :(
12:15.41Codayusnymbia: Are you sure?  The patch notes would seem to indicate that the default is 3 (all UI acceleration).
12:15.55nymbiaCodayus: hmm.. you're right.
12:16.00nymbiaCodayus: /shrug
12:16.58sylvanaarnymbia: just something to link the EU tables to the API
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12:17.14nymbiasylvanaar: ah, ok
12:17.31sylvanaarI dont know how to be honest
12:19.44nee-workHaven't you been taught how to be honest by your parents?
12:19.51nee-work:P
12:19.52CIA-1703ammo * r25251 10oRA2/LoadOnDemand.lua: oRA2: do not enable oRA2 in a battleground.
12:20.01Elkanoammo: <3
12:20.09[Ammo]apparently it won't work
12:20.10Elkanosame for BigWigs pls
12:20.13[Ammo]already done
12:20.16[Ammo]but
12:20.18Elkanok :)
12:20.19[Ammo]it doesn't work
12:20.24Elkanooh :(
12:20.30[Ammo]because the JOINEDRAID is fired before the zone changes :p
12:20.43Trancerany Grid maintainers here?
12:20.44phyberdoes anyone know which combat event 'Mangle' (druid talent) uses?
12:21.03Adirelle|worknee-work: about Baggins skin, for now I ripped texture from ABP (well, those textures are mainly Blizzard's one reworked)
12:21.12Elkanowell, at least TopScoreFu doesn't track it iirc
12:21.28phyberElkano: I know, I'm trying to fix that ;)
12:21.31Fisker-FUCK
12:21.35Elkanobtw: I hate opening tradeskills after a patch... it freezes my wow :/
12:21.43Fisker-My supplier has sent all my info to blizzard
12:21.50sbuhm?
12:21.52Fisker-but they do say it's a pet code?
12:22.01Elkanophyber, is it because of the event or because of the (bear)/(cat)
12:22.11nymbiahmm.. GetLocale() returns "enUS" for europe english clients, right?
12:22.18[Ammo]enGB
12:22.24nymbiaoh, good.
12:22.55phyberElkano: not sure.
12:23.03phyberSPELLLOGSELFOTHER = "Your %s hits %s for %d.";
12:23.11nee-workwoo!
12:23.11phyberthis is the string it should match.
12:23.14vhaarr[Ammo]: no
12:23.16nee-workAdirelle|work: okidoki
12:23.19vhaarrnymbia: It returns enUS.
12:23.23[Ammo]oh?
12:23.25nee-workwoo! TBC CE has been sent and will arrive tomorrow
12:23.25Elkanodoes %s include %(%)?
12:23.26phyberbut I was wondering if it was coming to the client as a _COMBAT_ event instead of _SPELL_
12:23.36vhaarr[Ammo]: Think about AceLocale.
12:23.39Adirelle|worknee-work: I'll try to redo the work and makes new ones
12:23.41nymbiavhaarr: damn.  how do we tell if a client's in europe, then?
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12:23.47Adirelle|workwhat is trick is that :
12:23.50Adirelle|work~edgetiles
12:24.03Elkanohmm... should I think
12:24.03nymbiathere's gotta be some flag in the version or something..
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12:24.12CIA-1703ammo * r25252 10oRA2/LoadOnDemand.lua: oRA2: tweakie tweakie
12:24.14phyberI'll through that string into the _COMBAT_ parsing, see what happens.
12:24.16Adirelle|workdamn, forgot how I teached it to purl :)
12:24.17[Ammo]vhaarr: AceLocale defaults to enUS
12:24.18phyberthrow.
12:24.23[Ammo]vhaarr: so it defaults to that for enGB
12:24.30Fisker-They write in the email that Blizzard will send a "Activation code"
12:24.35[Ammo]I am quite sure the european client reports as enGB
12:24.50phyberor, not. that won't work.
12:24.51phyberhmm.
12:25.09CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25253 10Prat/modules/ChannelRenumbering.lua: Prat: Being replaced
12:25.11vhaarr[Ammo]: Fine, let me check, then.
12:25.16[Ammo]:)
12:25.18vhaarrI'm sure you're wrong, though :)
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12:25.18[Ammo]I can't check ingame atm
12:25.23[Ammo]well, lets not bet on it
12:25.25Adirelle|worknee-work: have to split up Blizzard's original frame and rearrange them following this layout : http://www.wowwiki.com/EdgeFiles
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12:25.47Elkanoammo, I think AceLocales defaults simply to the first provided locale
12:25.55nymbiavhaarr, [Ammo]: ping me when you find out for sure ;)
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12:26.11vhaarr[Ammo], nymbia: /print GetLocale() = "enUS"
12:26.13[Ammo]local DEFAULT_LOCALE = "enUS"
12:26.19[Ammo]from AceLocale :p
12:26.26[Ammo]vhaarr: damn
12:26.28[Ammo]foiled again!
12:26.29vhaarr^^
12:26.34[Ammo]there goes my plan for world domination
12:26.35Elkanohmpf... blame ck ;)
12:26.36nee-workAdirelle|work: I see.. that's a bit cumbersome, especially seeing how the top and bottom edges are just the same textures rotated. I wonder why the same texture can't be used and rotated in-game. Or can it?
12:26.40nymbiavhaarr: how do i tell if you're in europe, then? :(
12:26.45vhaarrnymbia: err
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12:26.55vhaarrnymbia: I'm tempted to say that you can't
12:26.55[Ammo]nymbia: why would you need to know if someone is in europe?
12:27.01HealthdeDE is eu too?
12:27.04nee-workTo launch a full-scale attack!
12:27.09nymbiathere's gotta be some flag in the version or something
12:27.12nee-workYes Health, Germany is in Europe.
12:27.14trhHealth: of course :P
12:27.15Adirelle|worknee-work I thing it is related to the optimization of the rendering engine
12:27.16HealthI know.
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12:27.25nymbia[Ammo]: glory's server tables.
12:27.26Adirelle|works/thing/think/
12:27.30[Ammo]nymbia: ah
12:27.31nee-workAdirelle|work: I see, rendering it bit-by-bit instead of as one surface
12:27.34HealthBut you talked about enGB as the only EU
12:27.40Fisker-I hope our "pet activation codes" can be used for standard edition :D
12:27.41[Ammo]don't use glory here
12:27.47vhaarrnymbia: if GetCVar("realmList"):find("eu") then
12:27.53nee-workIsn't Britain the sun around which the rest of the EU revolves?
12:28.02[Ammo]not really
12:28.02Adirelle|worknee-work: it's for resizable frame only, but Baggins bags are such frames
12:28.11[Ammo]britain is a backwards island
12:28.11nee-work:) Just kidding ofcourse. I'm not in Britain either.
12:28.12vhaarrnymbia: I'm just thinking here, but that should work, I guess.
12:28.30nee-workWell so is flat, flat Holland, where shops are closed during the evenings and on Sundays
12:28.31Adirelle|worknee-work: Blizzard's ones have a flat, one-piece texture
12:28.37nymbiavhaarr: should work just fine :D
12:28.44vhaarrnymbia: hmmm
12:28.45nymbiavhaarr: thanks ;)
12:29.11vhaarrnymbia: Or GetCVar("locale") == "enGB" or "deDE" or "frFR" or "esES"
12:29.18vhaarrnymbia: but my first method is better :P
12:29.24nee-workAdirelle|work: Okidoki.
12:29.25trhyou can also use GetLocale()
12:29.25nymbiavhaarr: yup :)
12:29.30vhaarrtrh: No, you can't.
12:29.33[Ammo]trh: you can't
12:29.45trhvhaarr: it worked for me =)
12:29.50vhaarrNo, it didn't.
12:29.53vhaarrYou just think it did.
12:29.55nee-work:)
12:29.56[Ammo]not if the client reports enUS when you're in enGB
12:29.58nee-workThere is no spoon.
12:30.04trhoh.. ok ;)
12:30.27[Ammo]so no colour vs color :p
12:30.38haarmthere's var's like LOCALE_xxXX set .. /print LOCALE_enGB or something, and if it's true, you got an eu client, same with frFR, etc etc
12:31.03vhaarrhaarm: I just provided 2 better methods.
12:31.08nymbiai was gonna say.  i have some light-translation stuff in Stitch, and if it had returned enGB, then stitch's enchanting wouldve been very broken for enGB users, and i should have heard about it by now. lol.
12:32.08haarmvhaarr, i'm sure your function call involves more overhead than if (LOCALE_enGB or LOCALE_frFR or LOCALE_deDE or LOCALE_esES)
12:32.34vhaarrhaarm: My function calls don't depend on in-game variables that can be changed.
12:32.45nee-workI just read that TBC CE has a mouse-mat :)
12:32.59HealthNot bigger than mine
12:33.01haarmanyone changing them deserves any ill effects they encounter
12:33.14vhaarrhaarm: Patches can change them.
12:33.18LysetIf I install tbc now can I still play the few hours that are left?
12:33.22Lysetstill got some ui setup to do
12:33.48haarmvhaarr, that's about as unlikely as GetCVar being changed ;)
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12:34.16vhaarrI disagree, Blizzard changes UI stuff all the time.
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12:34.27HjalteNargiddley: It seems that when you try and delete a section of a bag with a category in it, it doesnt delete it. You have to delete the category in the section first and then you can delete the section.
12:35.25nee-workLyset: I think you can, but I am not sure. If you want to be safe, make a copy of your entire WoW dir. Then, if it does not work, just use that copy to play until TBC is live. Copying works because there are no vital registry entries.
12:35.40Lysetah k
12:35.41Lysetthanks
12:36.00[DiE]Celebyou can play with tbc on live servers...
12:36.05vhaarrAnyone know a way to check whether you're currently zoning or not?
12:36.10[DiE]Celebi installed mine to try yesterday
12:36.52nymbiavhaarr: you'd need to track events i think
12:37.00Adirelle|workHjalte: you mean should section be emptied before deletion ? (Nargiddley is offline)
12:37.14Adirelle|works/should section/section should/
12:37.21DrZoot[Server] We regret to inform you that your realm has been flagged for destruction to make way for a new interstellar bypass. Destruction will commence in 15 seconds. Thankyou for your understanding.
12:37.34vhaarrnymbia: hm
12:37.41nee-workhehe
12:37.43HjalteAdirelle|work: Ah, hadn't seen that. I mean that it seems Baggins have some problems deleting a section that has a category in it :)
12:38.17Adirelle|workHjalte: it says it can't or it just doesn't do it ?
12:38.45vhaarrDrZoot: lol
12:38.55nymbiaare the realms toasted already? i cant get my character list.
12:39.02HjalteAdirelle|work: When i tried, it actually deleted the section, but didnt give me the standard warning, and when i came back to that bag later, the sections hadnt been deleted.
12:39.04nee-workNoooo!
12:39.06nee-workNot already
12:39.11nee-workI need to do some pvp today
12:39.17Adirelle|workHjalte: weird
12:39.26CIA-1703roartindon * r25254 10AceCast/ (. AceCast.lua AceCast.toc):
12:39.27CIA-17AceCast:
12:39.27CIA-17- New addon that adjusts casting bars for lag. Works with ag_UnitFrames player casting bars
12:40.04nee|workThere, now I fit in
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12:40.38Fisker-well that settled it
12:40.49nee|workCollector's Edition owners will also be able to take their adventures from the computer to the tabletop, with two starter packs for the new World of Warcraft Trading Card Game -- one for themselves and one to share with a friend. <-- cool :)
12:40.49Fisker-account management won't withstand the pressure tonight
12:41.04Fisker-servers just crashed and now the forums was bombed into oblivion
12:41.10nee|work:|
12:41.19HjalteFisker-: Dunemaul is still up
12:41.27yacoobnee|work, CCGs are evil.
12:41.28nee|workEU or US?
12:41.31Fisker-servers got up again pretty quick
12:41.32Fisker-EU
12:41.39nee|workyacoob: I know, I still have my MTG cards ;)
12:41.43Teazlei havent gotten my game yet :(
12:41.47nee|workFisker-: hurray, I am on Dunemaul too
12:41.47yacoobnee|work, ^5 :D
12:42.06Fisker-i'm not on dunemaul O_o
12:42.10nee|workOh
12:42.16nee|workWell, Hjalte is then :)
12:42.40HjalteFisker-: It was just to tell you, that not all eu realms were down ;)
12:42.44nee|workOh.
12:42.56nee|workWell, I play on Dunemaul, even if no one else in here does :)
12:43.09CIA-1703nymbia * r25255 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: European clients use European server tables.
12:43.13Hjaltenee|work: Alliance or Horde?
12:43.23CIA-1703roartindon * r25256 10AceCast/:
12:43.23CIA-17AceCast
12:43.24CIA-17- Added svn:externals (sorry about two-part import; don't know of any way to do it all at once)
12:43.24nee|workAlliance
12:43.50Hjaltenee|work: What's your ingame name?
12:44.04steev64nee|work: don't do it! its a trap!
12:44.06nee|workYes yes, boo hiss, smelly Alliance, we're useless at PvP and PvE and whatnot and are carebears and and and.. Or if you are Alliance too, hurray!
12:44.12nee|workhehe
12:44.35nee|workmy in-game names are Naenee/Maple. I mainly play with Maple. She's a druid, he's a Priest.
12:44.54steev64yay healers!
12:44.54Hjaltenee|work: I'm on Dunemal alliance too. Transfered this summer, I'm in Aftermath now.
12:45.00nee|workah :)
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12:45.06nee|workIs Hjalte your in-game nickname?
12:45.14HjalteIndeed
12:45.16nee|workoki
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12:46.07steev64i have a question about bugsack - does it save the messages on game exit?
12:46.12nee|workI'm not much of a raider, but I have pvp-ed quite a bit. I'm currently doing PvP with my girlfriends' characters to get them upgraded items.
12:46.12Elkanoyes
12:46.24steev64oh lord
12:46.33nee|workoh lord?
12:46.39steev64wondered where all my free disk space went :-P
12:46.41CIA-1703roartindon * r25257 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
12:46.41CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
12:46.41CIA-17- Small change to stop tables being created/disowned for each spell cast handled
12:46.44nee|work:)
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12:46.59CIA-1703nymbia * r25258 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: Consistent server type conventions.
12:47.50steev64nice
12:47.53steev6466.6KB
12:48.31nee|work8 million players world-wide.. And most of them are going through the portal? It's like helping your mother-in-law move a piano.
12:48.45steev64im not!
12:48.52nee|work:)
12:49.00steev64at least, not unless there are extras at the store on tuesday
12:49.02nee|workWell, I did edit to say most instead of all
12:49.21nee|workOff home in 10 minutes :)
12:49.26nee|workAnd then off for the rest of the week
12:49.31steev64nice
12:49.46nee|workIt wasn't planned, but I can't say I mind too much :)
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12:49.56steev64is this rumor true that i've heard that you will level up if you've been 60 for a while?
12:50.14nee|workI suspect the one who I had a meeting with this week cancelled because of TBC :P
12:50.21steev64heh
12:50.39bversteev64, thats sounds imba!
12:50.41steev64Elkano: do you do any mod mods?
12:50.44nee|workHm. You mean that XP which would have been gained if XP was gainable when completing level 60 quests, will now be gained?
12:50.46steev64imba?
12:50.49steev64not familiar
12:50.53Elkanomod mods?
12:51.00bverimbalenced
12:51.06steev64modifying mods
12:51.10bvershorthand for it
12:51.13steev64develop
12:51.13bverbut that would be hot
12:51.16steev64ahh
12:51.31nee|workYes, but nowadays people use 'imba' as if it means 'good' or 'great', not just imbalanced.
12:51.38nee|workThey seem to use it as 'hurray' too
12:51.41bveryeah true :D
12:51.43CIA-1703ag * r25259 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
12:51.43CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
12:51.43CIA-17<PROTECTED>
12:51.55nee|workIt's now a random expression of enthousiasm.
12:51.59nee|workLike *rae*
12:51.59steev64im still trying to figure out this hunter in our guild
12:52.02nee|workand woot!
12:52.02bverdebuff highlighting doesn work
12:52.03bver!
12:52.06Elkanowell, mostly original addons
12:52.07bvercan't turn it off
12:52.22steev64Elkano: do you know what all these messages about SetPoint i keep getting mean?
12:52.33nee|worksteev64: Where did you read about the XP?
12:52.39steev64let me pastebin one as an example (i get a few thousand of these messages in a session)
12:53.16Elkanowell, some addon tried to move a secure frame while in combat
12:53.22steev64http://pastebin.ca/317256
12:54.26steev64nee|work: it was a rumor someone in my guild mentioned, i didnt' as for a post as it sounded unlikely
12:54.57nee|workOkidoki :)
12:55.00steev64Elkano: hm, i also get it with one that is supposed to show quest levels in the quest log (a buddy of mine wrote it)
12:55.11Adirelle|worksteev64: I read bli² wanted to reduce XP rewards from ready-to-turnin quests
12:55.17ag`Does anyone have the installer.exe from the BC cds?
12:55.20ag`EU v
12:55.31nee|workAdirelle|work: I wouldn't mind that at all :)
12:55.52nee|workIt means everyone starts at the same place
12:56.08ag`yacoob: you do? :P
12:56.14Adirelle|worknee|work: I know, what I'm trying to say is that means they are unlikely to give back exp you didn't have
12:56.44yacoobag`, sometimes I amaze myself :D
12:56.51nee|workAh I see. That makes sense. And ofcourse they gave money instead of XP, so we already had something for our trouble, we did not miss out.
12:56.54ag`you confuse me
12:56.56ag`:P
12:57.05Adirelle|worknee|work: notice that means I agree with you
12:57.20nee|work:)
12:57.36nee|workAgreement is always good. There's too much disagreement around :)
12:58.05nee|workWell, I am off. Cycling back home. At least it's downhill now :)
12:58.15nee|workback as nee|lap :)
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13:04.19WargathQuestion: Whats the encoding method used by Cartographer (via AceDB) for the stored coordinates in savedvariables/cartographer.lua?
13:04.38Wargathwould be really nice if someone could enlighten me
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13:11.13Koaschtenwhat was the script command again to return the name of a frame your mouse is hovering over?
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13:13.30Matrix110Koaschten /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage("You are hovering over frame: " .. GetMouseFocus():GetName())
13:14.06Koaschtenthx a bunch :)
13:14.09Matrix110np
13:15.01Koaschtenso now the question is what is aUFgrouppartytypeUnitButton2 and whats its use?
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13:16.39DarkImakunidoes an event fire when your reputation levels up? for instance, I become friendly with the Timbermaw Furbolgs, and the green swirly stuff swirls around me, does an event fire so I can :ScheduleEvent to take a screenshot?
13:17.36Lysitheaevl you saved me, my drive was working but my fourth cd was broken :)
13:18.27CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25261 10Prat/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: Just check that our db 'show' table hasnt been nilled
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13:26.47HjalteWith the cooldown thing out of Bartender3, did rangerecolour then also dissappear?
13:28.53Deviad__omg
13:28.53Deviad__2.0.5 got out
13:28.53andremarHjalte: no, it seems to still be there
13:28.53Deviad__O_o
13:28.54Icerothand is there a version of ocd that works with the new bt3?
13:29.06andremarcooldownCount works quite nicelhy
13:29.11Hjalteandremar: Ah, yea, it seems you're right :)
13:29.30Deviad__Do you have to update TOC and meet the new API again?
13:29.50Adirelle|work~bigwigs
13:30.01purlrumour has it, bigwigs is a World of Warcraft AddOn that provides oodles of boss alerts and his highly configurable
13:30.26LysitheaTips for a good questlog addon? I heared something about monkeyquest
13:30.33zirahEQL3
13:30.50zirahif it is updated now
13:31.08Lysitheaon wowace?
13:31.43zirahno
13:31.43HjalteLysithea: Try Questsfu
13:31.43zirahwowace has QuestFu
13:31.43zirahwhat's really nice
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13:32.10Lysitheatrying questsfu then
13:32.22Adirelle|work[Ammo]: we tried Anub'Rekhan yesterday and we noticed that BigWigs' mod should be disabled then enabled to have the first timer bar
13:32.46Adirelle|work[Ammo]: I mean the initial locust swarm timer
13:32.59Deviad__hey guys, I'm having this problem with fubar
13:33.13Deviad__when I right click on some icons on the bar the entries do not show up
13:33.15jkwAuthor of Cellular anywhere around? :)
13:33.19BankZZso how many mods do you guys think will be broken tomorrow?
13:33.23Fisker-qhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=115322047&postId=1164011971&sid=1 <-thread on the CE pet btw
13:33.28Deviad__I can see just the V next to some entries
13:33.36Deviad__Do you have the same?
13:33.39StephmwBankZZ: not sure it matters as nobody will be able to log on...
13:33.40phyberBankZZ: all of them as people forget to press "Enable out of date mods"
13:33.48yacoob"I see V, people!"
13:34.00yacoob:>
13:34.00jkwBankZZ: None. The UI-system has allready been changed?
13:34.51Deviad__omg
13:35.22Deviad__I ALT+TABbed and the screen is all pink
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13:35.41Deviad__and can't see anything
13:35.41Deviad__what the hell have they done with this 2.0.5? O_o
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13:36.49Elkanook, wanted to go UBRS... when entering it didn't load -> alt+f4... tried to log in again, char screen took hours to load... logged into game in fall to death without any world beside skybox around me... :/
13:36.53jkwDeviad__: Someone said they reverted back to 2.0.4 due to some major error.
13:37.04nadaseu is running 2.0.5 today
13:37.14andremarnice
13:37.16jkwYeah, I know. I play on EU. :P
13:37.19Stephmwlast I read, both .4 and .5 clients were allowed
13:37.23nadas:)
13:37.25jkwMight be US that is reverted to 2.0.4?
13:37.43nadasUS allowed both clients to connect due to problems
13:37.58Deviad__everything I know is that I was force to update
13:38.00nee|lapHello again ;)
13:38.07Deviad__shit :\
13:39.02Adirelle|work[Ammo]: ping
13:39.07Adirelle|work~seen rabbit
13:41.53purlrabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 509d 14h 11m 51s ago, saying: '+in'.
13:41.54Funkeh`they are both working you will need to wait
13:41.54Funkeh`rabbit = vhaarr
13:41.54nee|lapAh yes, 2.0.5 update now
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13:41.55[Ammo]Adirelle: weird
13:41.55Adirelle|work[Ammo]: restarting mod didn't changed it
13:41.55Adirelle|work[Ammo]: I think it doesn't properly detect engage or something like that
13:42.21[Ammo]adirelle: it worked fine for me for weeks and weeks
13:42.21CIA-1703ammo * r25262 10oRA2/ (Libs/ LoadOnDemand.lua): oRA2: Include Babble-Zone for battleground exclusion
13:42.28SoLoRhm..
13:42.35SoLoR[Ammo] just wanted to whine about [Ammo] w
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13:42.39SoLoRups
13:42.44SoLoRhttp://ace.pastey.net/5125
13:42.50SoLoRbut ill try this 1st :)
13:42.58Adirelle|work[Ammo]: well, once Anub casts the first locust swarm, everything works perfectly
13:43.12Adirelle|work[Ammo]: (at least for the mods, the raid is another matter :D)
13:43.20[Ammo]SoLoR: it probably doesn't work correctly yet
13:43.34[Ammo]Adirelle|work: weird, it worked fine for a long time for me
13:43.43[Ammo]Adirelle|work: how many BW users do you have?
13:43.50bveris there any way to make the xpbar in bartender3 vertical instead of horizontal?
13:43.51TularAnyone know of an addon that will let you synch friends list between toons?
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13:43.54Adirelle|work[Ammo]: about 5 or 6
13:44.01nee|lapHm. Did UI Acceleration also cause the 'not leaving raid when leaving battlegrounds
13:44.02[Ammo]Adirelle|work: it works better with more users
13:44.03Adirelle|work[ammo] including tanks
13:44.03nee|lap*?
13:44.14[Ammo]Adirelle|work: hmm if the MT has BigWigs it should work perfectly
13:44.16Funkeh`also try increasing your log range
13:44.27SoLoR[Ammo] works for me
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13:44.43[Ammo]SoLor: doesn't enable oRA2 anymore in Battlegrounds?
13:44.49SoLoRdunno
13:44.51[Ammo]ah ok
13:44.53SoLoRi like never pvp :D
13:44.56Adirelle|work[ammo] what is weird is that it works *at first* try or when I reset it (disable then hover Anub again)
13:44.58SoLoRi got that at load
13:45.01[Ammo]hehe
13:45.02[Ammo]I know
13:45.06[Ammo]I forgot to include babble-zone
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13:45.29[Ammo]Adirelle|work: ah then the wipe detection doesn't properly kick in
13:45.33[Ammo]wipe detection is very triky
13:45.38Adirelle|work[Ammo]: yeah
13:45.51Matrix110Adirelle always reset timers by yourself easiest way
13:46.07[Ammo]we plan to include a forced reset option for raid leaders/assistants
13:46.21Adirelle|workMatrix110: well, even if I click the fubar to reset, it doesn't work, it seems it need a full reset
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13:46.39[Ammo]Adirelle|work: now that wuold be a bug
13:46.40[Ammo]checking
13:46.45Matrix110hmm pressing the BW Icon always worked here
13:47.16[Ammo]hmm
13:47.18[Ammo]it should work
13:47.18Matrix110just sometimes someone enables the mod again and syncs me with message or smth
13:47.21[Ammo]since it yells
13:47.24[Ammo]and checks for the yell
13:47.39[Ammo]so dunno your problem adirelle
13:48.01Matrix110Adirelle the easiest way is anyway to let a BM Hunter pet tank Anub then you dont need to care about timers:P
13:48.12[Ammo]hahah yeah
13:48.14Matrix110(ok Rogues)
13:48.21[Ammo]rogues are expendable
13:48.23Matrix110ye
13:48.24[Ammo]just bring more warlocks :p
13:48.28Matrix110Mages!
13:48.32Fisker-Rogues are unnessecary
13:48.32Adirelle|workMatrix110: our maintank didn't want to hear about it
13:48.48Adirelle|workMatrix110: (it was the RL btw)
13:49.16Matrix110Rogues got nerfed so hard that their dps is lower than Mages/Warlocks most of the time what ive seen in the few raids we did after 2.0 its kinda sad
13:49.18Adirelle|worktoo bad, I could have my Zephyr to tank
13:49.51abbat_wrogues need to be buffed in pve ;)
13:49.53Matrix110Adirelle well using a Warrior isnt that bad it makes the fight atleast more interesting for some people
13:50.28Matrix110(not for me though... i just stay and AoE Bugs anyway and waste my Mana because the imapale healer thinks about dieing from impale(its impossible that they are in range normally...)
13:50.34Adirelle|workMatrix110: I know, and as I'm almost the only BM-specced hunter, I figure he would try to success in "classical tanking" at least one time
13:51.01Adirelle|workMatrix110: I meant BM-specced that raids... others BM-specced hunters are rerolls
13:51.11nee|lapuhoh
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13:51.19nee|lapI seem to have a graphical error already
13:51.29Matrix110We made AQ20
13:51.35bverbad rogues then
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13:51.46Matrix110and the pet from a BM hunter made almost as much dmg as a rogue
13:51.46Funkeh`later folks
13:52.05Matrix110(hunter was epic geared rogue was a alt with blues)
13:52.13bverwell honestly it depends on the fight
13:52.20Matrix110whole AQ20
13:52.40bverbut for kt, our rogues dominate the meters
13:52.41Adirelle|workMatrix110: in a partial AQ40 (satura + fankriss), I am in the damage top 10 with pet merged
13:52.51Matrix110But i like BM Hunters if they are in my group!
13:53.00Matrix110This Ferioucis whatever buff owns
13:53.07Adirelle|workInspiration :)
13:53.25Adirelle|workthe best is that it works on spells too... so BM can be with any damage dealers
13:53.28bvermatrix, what class you play?
13:53.32Matrix110Mage
13:53.35bverahh
13:53.41bver<== warlock
13:54.14Matrix110i dont say what i think about warlocks :P
13:54.26Matrix110*cough*NERF*cough*
13:54.35Matrix110even if i kill them i die by the dots i cant dispell-.-
13:54.37Adirelle|workbut it's quite hard to have healers giving a few HoTs on pet
13:54.38_neuron_shut up and make water
13:54.40_neuron_:p
13:54.54phybernerf Frost Mages, imo.  my frost mage alt can kill so much shit, makes my lock leveling look slow as hell.
13:54.58Matrix110Adirelle i know nobody heals my water element:-(
13:55.04StephmwMatrix110: working as intended, it's to make up for Mage's Uber water making abilities
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13:55.12phyber*cough*stab crappy pvp system*cough*
13:55.15Adirelle|workMatrix110: maybe because it won't living more than 45 seconds ? :D
13:55.19bvermust be a fire mage then :p
13:55.25StephmwMatrix110: just a sec, gotta piss in this bottle... err 'conjure water' for this raid
13:55.34WargathWhats the encoding method used by Cartographer (via AceDB) for the stored coordinates in savedvariables/cartographer.lua?
13:55.38Matrix110phyber a lock could kill whole Silithus if the mobs would be close enough:P
13:56.04Adirelle|workmy pet gets heal sometimes, when it actually pulled aggro from a healer :)
13:56.06Wargathall map addons store coords as float pair but cartographer encodes both value into a single int
13:56.17Wargathstrange
13:56.33phyberWargath: you could read the source and find the method yourself ;)
13:56.40bveri love my lock, been playing it since day one of release :p
13:56.56Matrix110Then you are atleast a real lock
13:57.07Wargathphyber: problem is that cartographer uses acedb so I would have to mess with aceDB and I dont want this :)
13:57.13Adirelle|workbver: same with hunter here :)
13:57.15Matrix110not one of those "zomg Warlocks got buffed i reroll"
13:57.22phyber< lock since release day.
13:57.41phyberI remember our ultimate nerf, the day when CoS didn't put shadow resistance into the minus anymore.
13:57.47phyberoh, the horror.
13:58.00bveractually i played a rogue in wow closed beta
13:58.02Matrix110at my former server the number of locks was VERY low least played class and now its the 4th most played class
13:58.04bverdecided i hated it
13:58.14cladhairei loved my beta rogue
13:58.15bverthen fel in love with the warlock class
13:58.19cladhaireso i rolled one
13:59.03Matrix110i actually never tried any class besides Mage before i got 60 besides Warlock i just took the class i liked more from my former MMORPG
13:59.24Matrix110played the lock at Serverdown...
13:59.42abbat_wpfff....
13:59.46abbat_wtry mage ;)
13:59.53abbat_wit's incredible fun class
13:59.58abbat_wbut not in pve ;)
13:59.58sylvanaaryawn
14:00.01Matrix110iam a mage
14:00.09bverfire right?
14:00.11bver:)
14:00.14Matrix110Frost
14:00.18abbat_w;)
14:00.22sylvanaarmost people play locks like mages
14:00.23abbat_wi'm elemental ;)
14:00.24Matrix110Fire till 60 then Frost!
14:00.28bverhow do you have probs with locks, iceblock > dots :p
14:00.36Fisker-fuck
14:00.37Matrix110Iceblock is to often on CD:P
14:00.45abbat_wyep. to often ;)
14:00.55bversome ice mages can put a hurt on me
14:00.59abbat_wand every time while block on CD you meet with lock
14:01.11abbat_wbut also i'm engineer
14:01.19bverhide int he bushes
14:01.20abbat_wand have 3 sec stun from grenade
14:01.20bverlol
14:01.31StephmwMatrix110: naaaah, reformed frost mage here... the key to survive without IB is... don't survive
14:01.36Matrix110i got imba nets now!
14:01.44Matrix110<3 Tailoring
14:01.47abbat_wAnd i plan to spec in frost after i got ice lance
14:01.55StephmwMatrix110: expand all your mana and health in one glorious AE spree at the flag
14:01.55sylvanaari played a lock for over a year, now I can hardly play him, could be i just dont know where the buttons are
14:01.58bveryeah im going full destro at 70
14:02.04bverincinerates are insane
14:02.06abbat_wDon't sure but i think it's "frost scorch" :)
14:02.22Matrix110not really
14:02.29sylvanaardestro locks imo should roll mages 90% of the time
14:02.48bverdid you play beta sylvanaar?
14:02.49Matrix110Ice Lance is very low dmg if the target isnt frozen but nice dmg if they are frozen
14:02.54sylvanaarwhich
14:02.54bverBC beta i mean
14:03.03sylvanaarsure
14:03.08andremarthey yo surviving as a mage is fight close to a graveyard, and time the res-timer :p
14:03.10abbat_wMatrix110, but lance do 300% dmg against frozen target
14:03.18bverincinerates are insanely op
14:03.18Matrix110thats what i said:P
14:03.34abbat_wIf you take frostbite you should know how many this proc ;)
14:03.40TularIs there anyway to cast a group decurse or group heal?
14:04.00abbat_wprayer of healing is not a group heal?
14:04.24nee|lapit is
14:04.28Matrix110well but it isnt really a Frost scorch
14:04.53abbat_wyep, but i mean 'analogue'
14:05.02Matrix110well ok:P
14:05.04nee|lap?
14:05.13Matrix110iam quite interested in Arcane Blast
14:05.14sylvanaaryeah, they are powerful, i guess its just an old bias - i think warlocks are affliction-demon in concept and specs that leave them out well dont seem right
14:05.28Matrix110but dunno how it will be at 70..
14:05.35Stephmwandremar: agreed - no point drinking for mana regen, dying is faster
14:05.35abbat_wYeah ;)
14:06.08Stephmwandremar: I give my crystal water to healers instead
14:06.29abbat_w=)
14:06.30bveryeah, but being affliction will give me carpal tunnel
14:06.39abbat_wlocks everytime ask for food also ;)
14:06.39bverso many buttons to press
14:06.44abbat_wnot only water.
14:06.48Gagorianlocks aren't plants
14:06.50Gagorianlike mages
14:06.55Stephmw:)
14:07.06andremarStephmw: no way to survive long enough to drink in AB/WSG atleast
14:07.16Stephmwabbat_w: of course, [Conjured Cinnamon Bun] too
14:07.16Matrix110ofc andremar Oo
14:07.19andremarin AV I can live for quite a while if I play safely
14:07.27abbat_wCinnamon Roll ;)
14:07.31yacoobCinnamon Bum. >_<
14:07.40Stephmwabbat_w: ok, so I haven't played since mid-december :)
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14:08.01Stephmwabbat_w: burnt myself out getting the warlord's headpiece
14:08.13abbat_wBut anyway i like locks ;) They have insane crowd control
14:08.26yacoobinsane as in 'crazy frog'? :D
14:08.44abbat_wyes, like you said ;)
14:09.02abbat_wbut i don't like dots on my sheep ;)
14:09.35abbat_wsometimes lock put dots on paladin or priest....
14:09.49bverthey buffed UA too
14:09.54abbat_wand you can't poly paladin/priest....
14:09.55CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25263 10Prat/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: Added some additional checks for nil show table and some debug statements
14:10.11bverthe damage effect from the diespel gets like 300% +dmg
14:10.15bverso ive heard
14:11.17abbat_wI mean CoA for example
14:11.20Matrix110glad i dont get dmg inside Iceblock from UA
14:11.23abbat_wor siphon life
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14:11.56bverim still trying to figure out if i wanna spec demon or affliction to level
14:12.15Matrix110Frost for lvling for sure its insane to lvl with frost<3
14:12.35[dRaCo]I'd go for demon for leveling, bver
14:12.37abbat_wI like frost
14:12.47[dRaCo]lotta regeneration, helps alot
14:12.52abbat_wAnd ice block always safe my ass ;)
14:13.23Matrix110ye against Rogus with Shadowstep crap...
14:14.28CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25264 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: More comments! Plus some additional controls over the hooking from events
14:14.41bveryeah i leveled to 65 on beta with demon spec, but people are telling me you can level affliction with no downtime at all
14:14.47bveri dunno =\
14:15.04[dRaCo]cant imagine that
14:15.25[dRaCo]where does that guy get his mana/life from?
14:16.07bverdark pact
14:16.15bverand life drain + SL
14:16.21bversiphon that is
14:17.07bveridk, i like intercept too much
14:17.08bver:p
14:17.26[dRaCo]could work, and I like affliction, but I'd still go for the felguard
14:17.47[dRaCo]does a lotta damage
14:19.12bverplus you get alot of +dmg from having the spec
14:19.36[dRaCo]checked it out on a friend's alt... the fg had like 180dps with its normal attack
14:19.49[dRaCo]without any buffs
14:19.54[dRaCo]that's a lot, if you ask me
14:20.00bvermine is 132
14:20.02bverthat is a lot
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14:20.29bversays i have +763 dmg too
14:20.36bverso he must have a ton then
14:21.24[dRaCo]not that much, but he's got like everything in demonology skilled
14:22.03[Ammo]felguard is for nubs
14:22.03[dRaCo]maybe I'm a lil too high with the number, though... been a while since I checked it
14:22.43DarkImakunidoes an event fire when your reputation levels up? for instance, I become friendly with the Timbermaw Furbolgs, and the green swirly stuff swirls around me, does an event fire so I can :ScheduleEvent to take a screenshot?
14:23.49bveractually felguard does descent dmg, coupled with a lock in raids
14:24.02steev64as long as the lock knows how to use him
14:24.04bveri got #1 on patchwerk
14:24.11steev64lern2turnoffautocleave
14:24.13bver@ 723 dps
14:24.32bver<3 shadow priests
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14:25.02steev64DarkImakuni: would think so, but not sure
14:25.16TularAre there any action bars that autohide until you mouse over?
14:26.19bver[Ammo] you play a lock?
14:26.19Matrix110yes Tular
14:26.20[Ammo]bver yeah
14:26.20Matrix110yes bver he does
14:26.21bverdestro spec?
14:26.22bver;p
14:26.23[Ammo]no
14:26.25[Ammo]affliction
14:26.46[Ammo]44 affliction, 7 demo (demonic embrace, imp imp)
14:27.06[Ammo]felguard is a nice levelling tool, and optionally cool in pvp
14:27.11bveryeah i was that spec at first, but constantly spamming dots isnt my play style
14:27.14Trancer<3 destro
14:27.17bveryeah im this spec for leveling
14:27.21bvernot raiding
14:27.31bveri was jus fooling aroun on our last nax clear
14:27.31[Ammo]I'll still be affliction for levelling
14:27.40[Ammo]though I'll give the felguard a go as well
14:27.45[Ammo]but it's meh
14:27.52bverhad 1094 dmg on pw with the bonuses from that spec
14:27.58bverer +dmg
14:28.09Gagorian"UPDATE_FACTION"
14:28.09GagorianFired when your character's reputation of some faction has changed.
14:28.16GagorianDarkImakuni
14:28.28bveryeah i was raiding 7/0/44 for a long time
14:28.36Trancerlong time.. :p
14:28.40bverwell
14:28.43Trancernew tp's are brandnew! :P
14:28.48bversince the 41 pt talents
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14:29.44bverall my gear, is geard towards destro, tho, i didnt pick up any  of the dmg gear in naxx
14:30.54Ricoofull destro is real nice while raiding these days
14:30.58[Ammo]I have some +hit and the rest is passive damage
14:30.59Ricooespecially at lvl 62
14:31.02LysitheaI had two addons called TheBigPicture and TheLowDown, kept my minimap always zoomed out and my chat always scrolled down.. anyone know where I can find these?
14:31.09Trancer+crit+hit+dmg here, mostly +crit+dmg
14:31.17[Ammo]lysitheo: groups.google.com/wowtekkub/ or something
14:31.23[Ammo]it's on tekkub's googlegroup
14:31.28LysitheaIll try to find it
14:31.33bveryeah 4piece +  damage gear is the best bet for aff builds
14:32.16Lysitheahttp://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ it is
14:32.24GagorianLysithea: TheLowDown is implemented into Prat
14:32.33GagorianAnd TheBigPicture is in SimpleMinimap
14:32.35Lysitheaah
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14:32.58LysitheaI used squeenix before, got something similar?
14:33.09Lysitheaor do you suggest using simpleminimap instead?
14:33.19Ricoosimpleminimap is quite good
14:33.21GagorianSimpleMinimap does basically the same things I assume squeenix those
14:33.30Gagorians/those/does
14:33.34bvertrancer what factiona re you?
14:33.38CIA-1703athou * r25265 10MultiTips/ (. MultiTips.lua MultiTips.toc MultiTips.xml):
14:33.38CIA-17MultiTips:
14:33.39CIA-17- now using AceHook
14:33.39CIA-17- Right click on any tip to enable compatibility with
14:33.39CIA-17other modifying addons for that item
14:33.39CIA-17(loosing compatibility for the first one)
14:34.05LysitheaIll try simpleminimap then
14:34.12Lysitheaty for the tip
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14:34.30Lysitheawhile I'm here, still tinytip everyone uses for tooltips?
14:35.42Ordogme does
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14:37.45Lysitheaworking on some last minute uisetup for lvling :)
14:40.56CIA-1703toadkiller * r25266 10AutoBar/ (6 files):
14:40.56CIA-17AutoBar:
14:40.56CIA-17-- 2.00.00.27 beta
14:40.56CIA-17-- Dont lock size for cyCircled buttons
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14:42.55CIA-1703toadkiller * r25267 10AutoBarConfig/ (AutoBarConfig.lua AutoBarConfig.toc):
14:42.55CIA-17AutoBarConfig:
14:42.55CIA-17-Remove confusing ProfileReset option from Profile tab
14:43.09Ricootoadkiller in this channel?
14:44.17Trancerbver: both ;)
14:44.21Trancerbver: got two locks ^^
14:44.25Fisker-anyone knows some software that tracks webpages and notifies you of changes
14:44.34Fisker-And isn't copernic tracker
14:44.49Eternally777Is wdn.wowinterface.com going to get updated with v2.0.3 and up?
14:45.11TularMatrix110: which one auto hides until you hover?
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14:46.45cladhaireEternally777: Beladona is working on a new backend for wdn.. btu yes
14:47.18Eternally777Oh, ok.  Thanks Clad :-)
14:50.29CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r25268 10MCP-QQ/MCP/MCP.lua: MCPMCP-QQ: Fully recursive Enable (except for optdepts)
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14:51.34Grinethey fucked with the macro api?
14:51.46Grinewhat's the slot number for trinkets now? 14 seems to be helm
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14:53.26Trancer<PROTECTED>
14:54.28TularAre there any action bars that autohide until you mouse over?  Can bartender do that?
14:54.47kremonteany way to make a slash command with a default option using AceConsole? (if no known arg is given, it uses default(args))
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14:56.46abbat_w13 - upper, 14 - lower for trinket slots
14:57.24Eternally777The current TOC is still 20003, right?  Or is it 20005 now?
14:57.48Panyecan anyone help me with this !!standalonelibraries, what do I actually do with it?
14:57.52nee|lap20003
14:58.01nee|lapYou don't use them Payne
14:58.20Adirelle|workPanye: if you don't plan to develop ace addon you don't need them
14:58.32Panyeoh I dont
14:58.33Adirelle|work(and whenever you plan to, it's optional)
14:59.10Panyejust I read on fourms about extracting it and it reduces loading times?
14:59.27Grinehmm for some reason my trinket macro was showing the icon for deathdealer helm...
14:59.37nee|lapIt only reduces it the first time.
15:00.10Panyeso I dont need it then?
15:00.14nee|lapI think it's a hassle apart from that benefit, it's not a useful tweak or such everyone should use.
15:00.16nee|lapNope
15:00.18nee|lapNo need
15:00.53bverTrancer: two locks!
15:00.54bver?
15:01.21Ricoois there any ace2 alternative for auctioneer?
15:01.27Trancerbver: first played horde, got bored there, made a priest on horde, liked it more, friends played alliance, made lock there ;)
15:01.30nee|lapkc_items
15:01.32Trancerbver: and pimped that lock out :p
15:01.49bvergnome i hope!
15:02.04Panyeok another question, I use wowaceupdater and I seem to have alot of change logs, is there any way to update without getting them?
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15:02.10Eternally777haha, I just got an e-mail from BestBuy saying that the item I've pre-ordered (TBC) is now available to be picked up in store.
15:02.14nee|lapPanye: nope.
15:02.21kremonteEternally777: can't upgrade your account though
15:02.28Lockarnheya
15:02.36Eternally777Orly?  So I can pick it up but can't upgrade?
15:02.39nee|lapPanye: Unless you have a very slow connection or a very small harddisk, it does not matter
15:02.46kremonteyou can install it but.. you can't use it, really
15:02.51Panyeso delete before extracting doesn't help
15:03.00kremonteis there any way to make a default option for aceconsole slash commands?
15:03.02Lockarni just upgraded to latest bartender3 mod, and i was wondering where the Cooldown count option gone?:P
15:03.08nee|lapEternally777: You can not use it *yet*, but you can on the 16th
15:03.12[Ammo]TBC timer! http://www.counter-strike.org.uk/paul/tbc.htm
15:03.13Eternally777I work at BestBuy, and all the shipping boxes are taped up and covered with stickers warning of extreme consequences if any copies are sold before the 16th.
15:03.15[Ammo](with a twist)
15:03.19GagorianLockarn: Removed permanently
15:03.33LockarnGagorian, what do i need now to have that feture?
15:03.38[Ammo]any clue why it was removed??
15:03.41[Ammo]I kinda liked it
15:03.55Eternally777I find it interesting, we'll see.  I work tonight so I'll try to pick it up then.
15:03.58GagorianLockarn: OmniCC
15:04.10Gagoriannevcairiel * r24957 Bartender3/ (4 files): Bartender3: removed build-in cooldown count because it bugged and ate performance, i recommend OmniCC as a replacement.
15:04.40[Ammo]hrmf
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15:04.42[Ammo]it didn't bug for me
15:04.44GagorianWe don't want it eating performance *nods sagely!*
15:04.45[Ammo]ohwell
15:05.03nee|lapOr perhaps it did without you being aware
15:05.13Trancerbver: yes, gnome ;)
15:05.20Mikmahttp://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/garfield/1847/20070115.gif
15:05.22Lockarni dont see OmniCC on wowace tho, isent it an ace mod?
15:05.36nee|lapNope, it's not ace
15:05.40Lockarnzomg
15:05.41Eternally777Lockarn: if it were Ace, it would be bloated.
15:05.46Eternally777You can get it on wowinterface.com
15:05.59Lockarni had a rule to not install any non-ace mods!
15:06.05Lockarnnow i need to break it :( i feel naughty
15:06.08Ricookcitems is not written in ace2 ? :(
15:06.08nee|lapThere's CooldownCount though
15:06.13TrancerI had to break it
15:06.14nee|lapRicoo: Not yet
15:06.17Trancerto get a cool randommount
15:06.30Trancertekkub's MountMe required FuBar
15:06.36Trancerand I don't want FuBar
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15:07.05Eternally777Well, like I said, OmniCC is written so well that if Tuller were to embed Ace2 into it, it would be less efficient than it is now.
15:08.14cladhaireAce is like Ketchup.. everything is better with Ketchup!
15:08.28Trancercoffee with ketchup hmhm.
15:08.33Eternally777zomg, cladhaire is being possessed by Ckknight!
15:08.41Amadeocladhaire: Not cake
15:09.30Eternally777I used to believe that all mods benefitted from Ace2, back when I was so young and naive...
15:09.40cladhairemmm cake with ketchup
15:10.03nee|lapmmm.. beer with ketchup
15:10.15Trancercake with ketchup might be bareable )
15:10.55nee|lapTea with ketchup... One dollop or two?
15:11.01Adirelle|worktartiflette with ketchup :)
15:11.49nee|lapI don't know what a tartiflette is
15:12.24Adirelle|workit's a french recipe based on cheese and potatoes
15:12.44nee|lapAh
15:12.50nee|lapThen I may know it
15:12.51Trancersounds horrible
15:12.58Tranceroh, it's tht
15:13.03Trancerit's quite edible  :D
15:13.17Trancerbut still, sounds horrible :P
15:13.18kebinusanag`: ping
15:13.33Adirelle|workhttp://chezregaletvous.free.fr/tartiflette3effet.jpg
15:14.39[dRaCo]there seems to be a bug with the latest ag_UF... even though I've turned debuff highlightning off for the target frame, it gets that blueish glow everytime the target's got the stormstrike debuff
15:14.45Prophyywith 2.05 what is the suggested value for  Set UIFaster "x"  ?? is it worth enabling
15:14.56AmadeoAdirelle|work: That kind of scares me
15:14.59Ricoo[dRaCo] it has been posted on the forums already
15:15.06[dRaCo]oh, ic
15:15.10Ricoothere is a quick workaround too to manual edit one file
15:15.15Ricoohav the same problem ;)
15:15.21[dRaCo]cool, I'll check it out
15:15.22[dRaCo]thanks
15:15.25Adirelle|workAmadeo: I know it looks horrible, but damn, it is good :)
15:15.33bver:)
15:15.36kebinusan[dRaCo]:  yah
15:15.37AmadeoAdirelle|work: I bet it's good, it just looks like you'd die after eating it!
15:15.47Eternally777Has anyone seen a mod that utilizes Lua's coroutine library yet?
15:15.59bverthere also seems to be a bug with fubar not madjusting the BuffFrame
15:16.08bveradjusting*
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15:16.50AmadeoWhoa...people are working on KDE for Windows?
15:17.14Amadeohttp://commit-digest.org/issues/2007-01-14/
15:17.16zirahhi Eternally777
15:17.30Eternally777Hi, zirah.
15:18.01Adirelle|workwell, it's quite static on a picture, but it just potatoes with onions, fresh cream, plugs (sense?) molten cheese and a spoon of white wine
15:18.01zirahyou're developing SacredBuff?
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15:18.17Adirelle|workvery light...
15:18.53grennonmorning
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15:19.10AmadeoAdirelle|work: If that's the light food there, I think I should be moving :)
15:19.11Eternally777zirah: Yep.
15:19.12LockarnOmniCC works well
15:19.21zirah<- Venantes
15:19.31Eternally777The hunter mod?
15:19.36zirahyep
15:19.40Eternally777Cool.
15:19.57Eternally777I forgot I wanted to take a look at some of your code.
15:20.04zirah:-)
15:20.20zirahno necrosis source in it any more :-)
15:20.22Adirelle|workAmadeo : I was kidding ofc ;)
15:20.54Trancercladhaire: question you probly heard before but... "is PerfectRaid usable" i.e. do you advice it yourself to be used by others (besides for the purpose of bughunting) or should we let it progress a little bit further?
15:20.55AmadeoDamn, I had high hopes :(
15:21.04cladhairewait until later today
15:21.05Eternally777zirah: Yeah, I was going to reference your code for the new version of Cryolysis.
15:21.10cladhairethat's what i would say, actually
15:21.15cladhairei'm trying to get the rest of these features in
15:21.21MerlinX2khiho, does someone know a good site where i can learn how to programm a GUI?
15:21.21Trancerokay, great to hear
15:21.25TrancerI miss it, a lot :o
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15:22.00bverwhat is cryolysis?
15:22.14zirahEternally777: i started with a mage version already
15:22.21zirahmy mainchar is a mage
15:22.32zirahbver: class sphere mod
15:22.48bvermage version?
15:23.14zirahNecrosis = warlock, Crylysis = mage, Venantes = hunter
15:23.51bveri would <3 you forever if you made a HS trading mod!
15:24.03Eternally777zirah: Lomig and I have been working on the original Cryo.  Maybe you should join our little team.  He's interested in learning Ace2, but I'm not going to have time to really work on it much during the upcoming weeks.
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15:25.50zirahmaybe
15:26.21zirahi am interested - double work makes no sense :-)
15:27.54CIA-1703grennon * r25269 10Postal/PostalLib/PostalLib-1.0.lua: Postal: -Added extra item/money check before deletion, Added possible fix for unique items
15:28.00Adirelle|workyou should create a core named doppleganger and add a module by class :D
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15:28.37Gagorianmodules ftw
15:28.45gixdoes anyone know how wow calculates quest-experience? i can't find it anywhere in questcache.wdb
15:28.54zirahhi gix :->
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15:30.51zirahEternally777: *args*
15:31.01Fisker-grennon
15:31.12Fisker-that means i wasn't tired earlier today
15:31.15Fisker-*cry*
15:31.17[Ammo]or you could take a look at Henge
15:31.21zirahEternally777: no i have not - one moment
15:31.22[Ammo]it is modular
15:31.25[Ammo]has stuff per class
15:31.26Fisker-I lost a  level 5 sword woth 10s
15:31.27[Ammo]but is kinda buggy
15:31.30[Ammo]the idea is cool though
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15:38.20Antiarc_gix: I suspect quest XP has a base value assigned by the quest designer.
15:38.33zirah[Ammo]: i used the opposite idea
15:38.51zirahseperated the basic functions into libs
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15:40.00[Ammo]zirah: the basic functions are in modules for henge
15:40.04Prophyyanyone getting lots of errors with ACE2 and AGuf  in bugsack
15:40.09[Ammo]and you can build a 'henge' per character ina serpeate module
15:40.53zirah[Ammo]: but i am still using on mod for each class
15:41.04gixAntiarc_: probably, but where is it stored? for example if i look at the uploader from allakhazam they use a combination of uploading cache files and data from the ingame addon. but i cannot find any quest stuff in that addon. so they must get the xp out of the cache files i think
15:41.14Antiarc_gix: On the server, most likely.
15:41.23Antiarc_Oh, hm.
15:42.12[Ammo]zirah: check out the Henge code from the svn
15:42.43zirahnot here (i am at work)
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15:44.46oxmansomething new about grid ? :p
15:44.54yacoobit's still shiny.
15:45.04zirah[Ammo]: do you have any screenshots (including options dialog)?
15:45.52pubProphy, yeah blocked errors :\
15:46.12oxmanno news about hot stacking ?
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15:47.38Funkeh`hey
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15:50.27cladhaire<3 hot stacking
15:50.30cladhairei can't play without it now :P
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15:51.11oxmanyep but grid don't show them :(
15:51.32abbat_wErgh... Still no ETA from discord team, no news, no info :(
15:51.35Matrix110hot stacking creates so much overhealing when i have 4 DoTs i want to get more damage but i dont get damage :-(
15:53.10cladhaireMatrix110: heheh
15:53.38cladhaireoxman: I want to hit you up at some point to get some suggestions on visual stuff for perfectraid, if you dont mind.
15:53.38Matrix110its quite funny if you see the overhealing meters and the healing meters now
15:54.05Matrix110the "Tree"s aka lazy droods have most overhealing as they just dot everything with -1HP
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15:55.00cladhairewell you can do that now =)
15:55.05cladhairetho tree form SUCKS now
15:55.12Matrix110why?
15:55.14oxmanHum sorry cladhaire, but it'll be difficult, because i don't use praid anymore, I use grid now
15:55.33Matrix110i didnt read the caster parts of 2.0.3
15:55.39Matrix110only read that feral hurts me more-.-
15:55.40cladhaireyes, I know that.. I can still ask for suggestions.
15:55.45cladhaireof course you don't need to give them *shrug*
15:55.48oxmanok ^^
15:55.57cladhaireMatrix110: the buff used to give everyoen in your party +healing based on your spirit.
15:56.03Matrix110ye
15:56.04cladhairenow it gives +to all heals to everyone in your party
15:56.06Matrix110we always had 4 druids
15:56.13oxmananywhere, i have test praid 2.x
15:56.14cladhairewhich means you need to be with the tanks and people you need to heal
15:56.17cladhairewhich makes it useles.
15:56.18oxmanbuff features etc, are very nice :)
15:56.25Matrix110wtf that sucks
15:56.31cladhaireyeah huge nerf to trees
15:56.42Matrix1104 druids 1 spirit priest in 1 group owned
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15:57.15cladhairewell
15:57.27cladhaire3 druids, 1 spirit priest, 1 shadow priest
15:57.29cladhaireeven better
15:57.44Matrix110well ok the mana gain from Shadow Priest is nice if he has good gear
15:58.00cladhaireeven if not =)
15:58.13Laricor 4 shadow priests and 1 warrior... = infinite mana :P
15:58.15DeviadIs anybody having some problems with 2.0.5 with addons and not without them?
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15:58.43DeviadCos I'm having this :\
15:59.03Matrix110really nice aswell is Moonkin Druid, BM Hunter, Shadow Priest and a mage!
15:59.28Deviadckknight, did you find anything?
15:59.36Matrix110in TBC exchange Shadow Priest with Shaman!
15:59.56Feldiacladhaire: think of it from the other side
16:00.03cladhaireoxman: Well I'd love any suggestions you have on making it prettier, in alternate layouts, etc.
16:00.06Feldiaall you ahve to do is put a tree with the MT and EVERY healer gets the benefit
16:00.09Feldiait's a buff imo
16:00.16Deviadgr8 I can't connect to wow ace forum. :\
16:00.30cladhaireFeldia: Are you alliance?
16:00.33Feldiayes
16:01.04oxmancladhaire I'll think about it
16:01.13cladhaireFeldia: You can't have groups like that.
16:01.22cladhaireyou need a warrior, warlock, shaman all together
16:01.27cladhairethen a paladin
16:01.32cladhaireleaving one spot for "something"
16:01.37Feldiatree?
16:01.41oxmandamn it !
16:01.45cladhaireits easier to put healers together in a group then it is to put a tree somewhere where its useful.
16:01.51oxmanwhy Blizz actionbutton are buggy !
16:01.53Feldiaand you certainly don't "need" a warlock
16:01.56Feldianor either of the other 2
16:01.59Trancerhealers with over +1000 heal was LOL tho
16:02.09Matrix110Trancer more:P
16:02.25Feldiawe have a priest with 1469 healing :P
16:02.36Feldia+ he can pop eye of the dead for a bunch more
16:02.49oxmanwhy : ActionButton1:SetAttribute("harmbutton1", "nuke1");ActionButton1:SetAttribute("type-nuke1", "spell");ActionButton1:SetAttribute("spell-nuke1", "Mind Blast") don't work !?
16:02.55DeviadHas anyone got the same problems I have?
16:02.55cladhaireFeldia: Not having the imp buff is worse than not having the tree buff.
16:02.59DeviadI'm using 2.0.5
16:03.00cladhaireits a nerf
16:03.03DeviadeuGB
16:03.11Feldiathat depends entirely on the encounter cladhaire
16:03.19Feldiaif the tank takes steady damage, then no
16:03.25Feldiaif the tank takes huge burst, and is prone to being one shot
16:03.26Feldiathen yes
16:03.31oxmananyone have an idea abut my problem ?
16:03.33cladhairewhich is the majority of encounters.
16:03.41cladhairecrushing blows ensure that.
16:03.52Feldiashield black negates crushing blows
16:03.53Adirelle|workoxman: tried not to put "1" at end ?
16:03.59Feldiablock*
16:04.08Feldiaand I dunno, what fights are about huge burst?
16:04.09oxmanit come from the official doc (comments in the .lua)
16:04.14cladhaireit has less utility now due to class makeup, whereas before you could put healers together, which is much more reasonable.
16:04.15Feldiapatchwerk, what else
16:04.15Adirelle|workhehe
16:04.20Matrix110well most encounters needs a quite small number of people healing the mt there the pre 2.0.3 druid was better
16:04.26Adirelle|workoxman: did it worked before ?
16:04.30oxmanand withotu the 1 the same problem
16:04.33oxmannever work on blizz button
16:04.39oxmanbut its work on personnal frames
16:04.40Feldiaalso, with the new system
16:04.43cladhairepretty much any encounter from onyxia on up has a burst damage component
16:04.47Feldiaevery healer gets the "best" benefit from your druids
16:04.54Adirelle|workoxman: I would suggest to look at blizzard code...
16:04.55Feldiasince you're going to put the highest spirit druid in the tank group
16:05.03Adirelle|worktho that quite harmful for our eyes
16:05.03oxmanI do that Adirelle ;p
16:05.04Matrix110cladhaire fankriss has no burst damage even a mage could tank him:P
16:05.25cladhaireokay, that's the minority, hence my point =)
16:05.49cladhairebut that implies that they're not healing anyone else in the raid.
16:06.06cladhairelook at it this way
16:06.09cladhaireas the druid himself
16:06.11cladhaireit worked better before
16:06.24Feldiawell, I know our druids prefer the new way
16:06.26cladhairenow its less effective for healing anyone outside their group
16:06.26Feldiaas do I
16:06.30Feldiame being a priest
16:06.31Makkhttp://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7504/gmpwnsp1.jpg
16:06.51cladhaire*shrug*
16:07.22Matrix110how much Spirit does a druid have anyway?
16:07.32IndustrialMakk: lol your shoulderpiece is bigger then your shield
16:07.32Matrix110Priests had more benefit before
16:07.35Feldiawe have a druid who has as much as a priest
16:07.40Industrial<3 blizzard gfx
16:07.54Feldiaunbuffed he's like 300-350
16:08.04Feldiaon KT last weeK I think he had 650
16:08.22grennonFisker-: i still need some ZG dolls or something to test uniques with
16:08.40MakkIndustrial: not me :)
16:09.05grennoni thought ERR_ITEM_MAX_COUNT would catch uniques
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16:10.54oxmannobody try to setAttribute on blizzard button ? :|
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16:13.20CIA-17- Added a toggle for looking into enchant descriptions too when looking for a match
16:13.42Saroz[Ammo], ping
16:13.46[Ammo]pong
16:14.12Sarozwhy not allow ora2 to function in BGS, and just use BATTLEGROUND for comm?
16:14.23MakkIndustrial: http://img.makken.info/wow/makk.jpg
16:14.24Makkthat
16:14.26Makk's me
16:15.42[Ammo]Saroz: because I don't feel like that
16:15.42[Ammo]Saroz: and people complain too much about it anyway
16:15.43[Ammo]so now I just don't enable it in BGs
16:15.43Sarozneed more complaining then!
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16:17.42CrisCrOssHey, guys im curious if anyone can link me Vivendi Unversal Stock page?
16:17.56CrisCrOssTheir symbol is V but yahoo wont display it
16:19.42Matrix110http://www.universal-stockfutures.com/StockFuture.aspx?symbol=OVIV/F.LI that?
16:20.03Feldiahttp://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s=vivendi&t=S&m=ALL
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16:20.40CrisCrOsswhy do they have so many...
16:21.10ZpanzerHello, can anyone help me out finding an addon that modifies the world map and removes the "unused parchment", some people clamed it were skinner, but I've tried the newest version with no luck?
16:21.27FeldiaZpanzer: cartographer
16:21.29Matrix110Zpanzer Carthographer can do that
16:21.35CrisCrOsswhat they said
16:21.45CrisCrOssso is Vivendi at 32Euros?
16:21.57ZpanzerDoes it require any other addons other then Carthographer? I've seen that there are some plugins too it
16:22.05nee-lapNo Zpanzer
16:22.07Matrix110nope no Plugins
16:22.09CrisCrOssno other addons has plugins tho
16:22.13CrisCrOssthat are optional
16:22.14Matrix110Plugins bring optional things
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16:22.25ZpanzerAhh. Cool, thanks for the help :9
16:22.45CrisCrOssMatrix, Vivendi at 32Euros correct?
16:22.56CrisCrOssthat in turn is Blizzard Entertainments stock price?
16:22.57Matrix110i think so:P
16:23.10CrisCrOssim just curious to see what it will be with the release of TBC
16:23.25Matrix110well the stock wont react on that alot
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16:23.33Matrix110Amazon gave their preorder values out
16:23.42CrisCrOssand..
16:23.42Matrix110you could guess the storm for TBC already
16:24.16DeviadHas anyone IceHUD running properly?
16:24.20grennonim just waiting to login for a server split
16:24.38AntiarcDid you all see that WoW topped 8 million subscribers? o.0
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16:24.52abbat_wgrennon, you server be splitted?
16:24.56Trancerthat's so-so Antiarc
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16:25.00oxmanWith the "key selfcast" option is removed ?
16:25.02Trancerdid you see 3.5 mil of those are in china?
16:25.02snurre-waaah, i wanna go through the portal :(
16:25.03DeviadHow come have none been complaining about mod problems with 2.0.5?
16:25.10AntiarcYeah, but that's still damned impressive.
16:25.17Antiarc2.0.5 is out?
16:25.23abbat_wyes
16:25.23Koaschtenyes
16:25.25DeviadAntiarc, yes!
16:25.25Trancerbut, 3.5 million in china, any idea how many that is, geez
16:25.29AntiarcPatch notes please.
16:25.39Trancergraphics cards fix
16:25.42DeviadAnd no one have been complaining about addons problems till now while I'm having a bunch of them :|
16:25.46Koaschtenwww.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes
16:25.49Funkeh`whats the cmd to get your mac address again?
16:26.17DeviadI can't do work IceHUD and other addons :\
16:26.22Funkeh`ipcnfig something?
16:26.28Deviadsome of them simply do not load even though I force them to!
16:26.37Matrix110ipconfig
16:26.51AntiarcOk, dammit, now I want to "Set UIFaster 1"
16:26.52grennonabbat_w: safe money says yes, Qs are already bad
16:26.55AntiarcBecause it says "do not use"
16:26.57AntiarcAnd I want to know what it does.
16:27.07grennonabbat_w: we are one of the "free transfer" servers, and nobody took them
16:27.16abbat_wwe too
16:27.17Benumbedthink its 2 early in the morning, cant seem to find soemthing to change seconds to minutes
16:27.25Makkhttp://www.euronext.com/trader/summarizedmarket/0,5372,1732_6834,00.html?quotes=stock&selectedMep=1&shareprice=VIVENDI&isinCode=FR0000127771
16:27.29abbat_wBut no one want to transfer ;)
16:27.29Makkther
16:27.39Matrix110oh its ipconfig /all to see the mac adress
16:27.40Funkeh`nvm its ipconfig /all :p
16:27.46MakkCrisCrOss: !
16:28.12snurre-hm, im getting <1kbps for the 2.0.5 patch :/
16:28.34Benumbedits only 2mb =x
16:28.46DeviadCan anyone pls tell me if he's having problems with IceHUD and other addons?
16:28.56Benumbedit sped up about 1.5mb in, figured
16:29.04Deviad:((
16:29.31Koaschtenhmm there is a torrent for enGB client up :)
16:29.33DeviadUsually there are lots of people aware of addons problems, how come am I the only one complaining now? :\
16:29.36Benumbedis there an easy way to convert seconds into minutes?
16:29.38CrisCrOssFunkeh its ipconfig
16:29.39Klazar|workpatch creates more bugs.. imagine that: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67247645&sid=1&pageNo=1
16:29.43snurre-i know it's small, installed it a billion times at work today.. just annoying that it's so slow here :(
16:29.47DeviadKoaschten, I got tbc already :P
16:29.56CrisCrOssMakk: yes?
16:30.03Koaschteni'l get mine in 6.5hours ;)
16:30.07snurre-Deviad: I have tbc activated account too ;)
16:30.08Makkhttp://www.euronext.com/trader/summarizedmarket/0,5372,1732_6834,00.html?quotes=stock&selectedMep=1&shareprice=VIVENDI&isinCode=FR0000127771
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16:30.10CrisCrOsshow did u get...
16:30.11Koaschtenand all i need is the key ^^
16:30.13Makkthere's the stocks
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16:30.22Koaschtensnurre- i doubt that, the upgrade page is down
16:30.24Deviadsnurre-, I installed the expansion, I'll get the key tomorrow via e-mail
16:30.28AntiarcBenumbed: minutes = seconds / 60?
16:30.31CrisCrOsswhat did they change for terms of use?
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16:30.35CrisCrOssMakk: thanks
16:30.56snurre-Koaschten: perhaps some IP ranges have access to the site ;)
16:31.31CrisCrOssguys i have a question which i had forgot to ask
16:31.39Benumbedwouldnt that also give me 2.4 mins or w/e if not a whole number?
16:31.41CrisCrOsswhat do they mean by Dungeon difficulty
16:31.48CrisCrOssthat wasnt really explained
16:31.48snurre-normal/heroic
16:31.56CrisCrOssn whats the purpose of that?
16:32.00AntiarcWell, yes, it would give you a fractional number, but that's what I'd expect
16:32.09phyberto make the dungeon harder than normal? :p
16:32.09snurre-heroic is an option for 5man instances, that makes them ALOT harder, and give better loot
16:32.12AntiarcIf you want just the minutes portion, math.floor(seconds / 60) is easy enough
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16:32.34Benumbedk its like c# then
16:32.35CrisCrOssoo better loot eh..
16:32.37Benumbedthx
16:32.42CrisCrOssby harder what do you mean...
16:32.48CrisCrOsslike how much harder
16:32.53snurre-CrisCrOss: they are *alot* harder.. like "you need consumables"-harder
16:32.55Deviadcool, everything seams to work now
16:32.55CrisCrOsscan it still be done by the same lvl requirements
16:33.03snurre-theyre all 70, so
16:33.10CrisCrOssis that so..
16:33.16CrisCrOsseven ST and Mara would b 70..
16:33.17snurre-but in difficulty more like 70 and 75
16:33.19snurre-no
16:33.21snurre-only the new instances
16:33.35CrisCrOssah, but what bout current instances
16:33.37CrisCrOsswould they b 60?
16:33.38grennonyay, my unique item thing was a retarded bug
16:33.40Adirelle|workand most heroic dungeons will require a key
16:33.45snurre-they'll be unchanged for now
16:33.48grennonself: and not self.
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16:33.58CrisCrOssah thanks
16:34.06CrisCrOssmakes alittle more sense, i wish they would explain it better
16:34.06snurre-however, the heroic stuff is a great oppertunity for blizz to upgrade old content very easily
16:34.09snurre-which is nice in a way
16:34.14snurre-lvl70 heroic SM plx
16:34.16deltronhttp://www.sanctuary-guild.org/index.php/topic,1882.0.html  <-- TBC attunement diagram
16:34.20deltronlol
16:35.03IndustrialMakk: :)
16:35.07Adirelle|workdeltron: that's what I was talking about :)
16:36.03CrisCrOssi dont see it..
16:36.10CrisCrOssi open the link..
16:36.37Adirelle|workdamn, it vanished
16:36.41oxmanI like my new set of macro :p
16:37.00CrisCrOsslmao Sword ot thousand truths is real
16:37.00CrisCrOsshttp://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/13/blizzard-confirms-the-sword-of-a-thousand-truths-is-real/
16:37.01deltroneh
16:37.02oxmanall heal spells : /cast [target=focus,help] Greater Heal; Greater Heal
16:37.03oxman:D
16:37.07CrisCrOssdid anyone see that Southpark episode
16:37.13deltronCrisCrOss: aye
16:37.24CrisCrOssthe sword is real...
16:37.46CrisCrOsslmao thats jokes
16:37.57AntiarcYes, it's real :)
16:38.08snurre-meh, I wish account admin wouldnt go nuts on me if I went through the portal :(
16:38.39Zpanzermeh, wowace.com is sooo slow atm :(
16:38.48Zpanzerdownloading with 0,5 kb/s :o
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16:40.18CrisCrOssZpanzer use WoWAceUpdater
16:40.27ZpanzerIs it faster? O_o
16:40.30AntiarcIt'll be slow even if you do it that way CrisCrOss
16:40.33CrisCrOssfor me it is..
16:40.36AntiarcIt just makes http connections to wowace.
16:40.44AntiarcAnd it really slaughters wowace's resources, actually :P
16:40.47CrisCrOssi downloaded evertyhing in like half the tim
16:40.57Antiarc2n +1 connections for the lose.
16:41.23CrisCrOssi like this guild site http://www.sanctuary-guild.org/
16:41.53Trancerjust a simple template '_
16:42.27Tranceror oh, it's actually handmade ;)
16:42.44|Kev|Antiarc: do you think wau is worse on resources than manual updating? (and if so, why?)
16:42.53CrisCrOssAlamo cannot speak english > http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59308423&sid=1
16:43.20Antiarc|Kev|: Yes, because it makes one connection to check the version, then another connection to download the mod. Manual updating just requires one connection per mod.
16:43.24CrisCrOss|Kev|: I <3 WAU if it werent for it i'd die
16:43.36snurre-great, my 2.0.5 download died at 65%
16:43.37CrisCrOssimagine having to update all that
16:43.42snurre-stopped transferring anything at all :(
16:43.45|Kev|Antiarc: ah, I forgot about that - mau doesn't do that
16:43.47CrisCrOssgey..
16:43.50CrisCrOssis it big?
16:43.55Zpanzeromg.
16:44.03Zpanzer1.2 kb/s ! Im going there
16:44.24snurre-0.14 now
16:44.24snurre-0.16!
16:44.36CrisCrOssits 2mb
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16:44.39CrisCrOssfor teh love of god
16:44.58Silviu-U download any other porn in background ? ;P
16:45.17CrisCrOssanyone use Xfire
16:46.18ZpanzerNo, its just a veeery slow website :p
16:48.06Dranor<snurre-> great, my 2.0.5 download died at 65% < i had to relog 4 times to get it
16:48.37snurre-yeah, im working on relogging now too
16:48.38snurre-it keeps dying
16:48.43snurre-67% now
16:49.35CrisCrOssim at 47
16:50.11AntiarcA daily torrent of the entire /files archive would be interesting.
16:50.34Adirelle|workbtw there is one or two mirrors
16:50.45CrisCrOsswhere so?
16:50.49IndustrialAntiarc: personally I dont see the use.
16:51.01oxmanDo you know an addon to make icon red when out of range and work with macro ?
16:51.02Industrialwhy would everyone want all addons?
16:51.22oxmanWith a macro like that : /cast [target=focus,harm] MyBlast; MyBlast
16:51.22Industrialalso, daily means nothing because commits are being made 24/7
16:51.24AntiarcIndustrial: They wouldn't, but it would allow torrent distribution of relatively new versions of the addons.
16:51.36Sarozag`, uhm, I got some white bars next to my party members
16:51.39AntiarcIt wouldn't be totally up to date, but it would be a fallback for patch days.
16:51.46Industrialtrue
16:52.03AntiarcI don't mean for the only distribution system, but more as a means of backup
16:52.05AntiarcFor example --
16:52.25AntiarcIf you had a client that torrented the entire archive, then gave a WAU-type interface that let you update your addons from your local master archive.
16:52.39cladhaireor they could just let us mirror files
16:52.41cladhairelike i've been asking.
16:52.46cladhaireand shoudl be trivial to set up =)
16:52.54cladhairei've got shittons of bandwidth sitting here
16:52.55oxmanDo you know an addon to make icon red when out of range and work with macro ? With a macro like that : /cast [target=focus,harm] MyBlast; MyBlast
16:53.07Zpanzer1.1 kb/s :(
16:53.07CrisCrOssis there a mirror for 2.05 patch?
16:53.09Industrialit does work with macros oxman
16:53.13AntiarcWell, that would be a defacto p2p mirroring, only on a daily seed, rather than hourly or whatever
16:53.18oxmanwhich one Industrial ?
16:53.24Industrialoxman: all of them..
16:53.30Industrialat least the default blizzard one
16:53.34Industrialand RangeRecolor
16:53.34oxmanand why not standard blizzard red layout ?
16:53.39Industrialyes it does
16:53.41oxmanthe default blizzard not
16:53.43oxmanno.
16:53.45Industrialdoes too
16:53.45oxmantry my macro
16:53.47oxmanyou'll see
16:53.47oxman:)
16:53.50cladhaireAntiarc: That doesn't solve anythign.. since WAU shouldn't need to have logic like that.
16:53.57cladhaireits the distribution's fault.
16:54.04Industrialoxman: ill go make a screenshot.
16:54.11oxmanwith my macro, don't forget ;)
16:54.27oxmanI see no harm spells red when I focus a harm target very far
16:54.30oxmanor heal spell
16:54.35Antiarccladhaire: I agree that there are better ways to do it.
16:54.43cladhairethe solution is simple
16:54.46cladhairewhy it hasn't been done, I don't know.
16:54.46AntiarcJust think that it would be a quick-and-dirty fallback.
16:54.53Industrialoxman: ok now i stopped caring :P
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16:55.09CIA-17Grouper:
16:55.09CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:55.28Antiarchttp://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=hamilton/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1168470616997&call_pageid=1020420665036&col=1014656511815
16:55.29AntiarcWTB.
16:56.36Trancerif anyone of you runs cacti, the rrdtool, update
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16:59.46kebinusanbleh mrplow isnt plowing banks, so annoying
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17:00.50AKXAntiarc, that's one pretty URL there >.<
17:00.56AntiarcHey, I didn't write it!
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17:01.00AntiarcI just want the armor.
17:01.02AKXHehe
17:01.03AntiarcI'd wear it to the mall.
17:01.04AKXLet's see..
17:01.18Adirelle|workcladhaire: what would be the solution ?
17:01.30AntiarcI would utter gruff one-liners to kids as they walked into EB Games.
17:01.44cladhaireAdirelle: Distributing the load across multiple servers, with rotating dns if nothign else.
17:01.47AntiarcMaybe ask them if they knew how to get to New Mombasa.
17:02.13Adirelle|workcladhaire: that's like mirroring, ain't it ? :)
17:02.18cladhaireyes
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17:02.30Adirelle|workwould need a files.wowace.com name tho
17:02.31cladhaireand i've offered, countless times.
17:02.33snurreoh great, 2.0.5 came to 71%, now 0%
17:03.15Adirelle|workcladhaire: you should give another try, kaelten seems to be looking for it again
17:03.28cladhairei've offered, many times.
17:03.31cladhaire*shrug*(
17:03.33cladhaireso have other people
17:03.38cladhairei think he's working on the new server, dont know
17:04.55Trancerkaelten set up a reverse proxy
17:05.04Trancer(squid)
17:05.09Adirelle|workwoot, my BC box has been shipped today, I should receive it tomorrow :D
17:05.11Trancerso he is working on some form of load balancing
17:05.22AntiarcThey're also working on overhauling WAU so it's less of a resource hog.
17:05.28Trancercladhaire: we threw up some ideas about making the WAU include some p2p shell
17:05.41Trancerdunno how viable tha tis tho
17:05.45Adirelle|workTrancer: a reverse proxy will still need two or more server to be used
17:05.50cladhaire*shruggles*
17:05.53moonsorrow"Blade's Edge Arena", anyone knows where I can find this?
17:05.55Barbanuscladhaire, I also have a pretty good amount of bandwidth I would be willing to donate
17:05.57TrancerAdirelle|work: sure, but you'll need that anyway to distribute load ;)
17:06.05Barbanuscladhaire, 100mbit, 1TB/month
17:06.10AntiarcI honestly don't think that p2p built into WAU would be such a bad thing.
17:06.19AntiarcYou just need hashes from the wowace server or a trusted mirror.
17:06.24Tranceryup
17:06.27Barbanusuplink is to a multiple gigabit link network
17:06.35Trancerand a trusted mirror seeding the files
17:07.10BarbanusAntiarc, it would be.
17:07.10Barbanuspeople dont leave WAU up
17:07.10Trancer(not to use torrent of course)
17:07.10AntiarcI do :)
17:07.11TrancerBarbanus: because there is no point in keeping it up
17:07.11Barbanuswhy do you think blizzards patcher sucks ass?
17:07.17Adirelle|workTrancer: files are too small and changing too often
17:07.20Trancerbecause it closes itself when you are done
17:07.22AmadeoBlizzard's patcher sucks because it maxes out your upstream
17:07.24AntiarcBecause everyone and their mother is firewalled and doesn't know how to turn it off? ;)
17:07.26Amadeootherwise it works great :)
17:07.27Barbanus95% of the users dont understand bittorrent, or what it does
17:07.35TrancerAdirelle|work: if you use some smart central hub that sorts that all out
17:07.44AntiarcHonestly, if the patcher throttled its upstream, people would be a lot happier.
17:07.50AmadeoYep
17:07.59Trancerstinking patcher
17:08.05Trancersucks my SSH connection dry
17:08.15Trancercan't do ToS here :(
17:08.27AntiarcI've just taken to ripping the torrent out and dumping it into uTorrent
17:08.29Adirelle|workI always keep blizzard downloader up at least 24 hours after each patch
17:08.47TrancerI just leech the patch from a mirror friends always setup
17:09.00TrancerI am not awake at 11h anyway ;)
17:09.01Trancer(CET)
17:09.11*** join/#wowace Funkeh`` (n=funkydud@host86-147-50-181.range86-147.btcentralplus.com)
17:09.25Trancerit's a piece of crap, especially the background downloader
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17:09.59FeldiaI just seed through azureus
17:10.04Feldiathe hell with the blizzard downloader
17:10.11BarbanusAntiarc, well you will still have the issue with everyone and their dog firewalled. I think its overkill.
17:10.27Adirelle|workand well, optimizing how WinAceUpdater works to minimize bandwitdh usage and connection, would help a lot also
17:10.48AntiarcTo be honest, I'd like to see it just to see how it ends up working, Barbanus :D
17:10.58BarbanusI know of 10-15 people who have offered to setup mirrors, myself included.
17:11.11Trancerthat downloader of bliz should just do UPnP
17:11.13Trancerproblem solved
17:11.15chris|offsame for me 1gbit .hu if u need
17:11.23Trancerall firewalls open
17:11.28Koaschtenyeah Feldia and since the blizz downlaoder puts .torrents in /cache... just use azureus
17:11.45AmadeoWhat's the best BitTorrent client in Linux?
17:11.59Trancerbittorrent-download-headless ;)
17:12.03Tranceror curses :)
17:12.09Zpanzermeh
17:12.10Trancerthe simplest one ;)
17:12.13Zpanzerfinally im done downloading
17:12.16Adirelle|workwell, if Kaelten is setting up a reverse proxy, mirror may becomes interesting
17:12.17Zpanzerand the zip contains a error :8
17:12.35TrancerAdirelle|work: not if he goes funneling all traffic though that proxy ;/
17:12.41TrancerAdirelle|work: he should set up some RR, voila
17:12.57Adirelle|workTrancer: I hope he will make both
17:13.04Trancerbased with some easy dns tweaks you can just direct the user to a nearby server
17:13.10Trancer(powerdns with geobackend)
17:13.23haarmthis is probably old news, but lol anyway: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0470110023/ref=pd_ys_cs_all_1/026-8087083-9510854
17:13.48AntiarcActually, that's pretty neat.
17:13.49BarbanusZpanzer, what local?
17:13.52haarmwas funny reading who wrote it
17:13.54Adirelle|workthe way WAU works now is terrible
17:13.57AntiarcThird-party public doc on how to mod WoW.
17:14.13Adirelle|workshould have one file for latest_revision, and a better way to handle externals
17:14.18ZpanzerBarbanus, ?
17:14.24AntiarcBest part about that kind of book?
17:14.29AntiarcYou can publish a new edition with every patch. :D
17:14.32BarbanusenUS, enEU, etc?
17:14.50ZpanzerenEU, im downloading from WoWace.com
17:15.02AntiarcAdirelle|work: FWIW, I've talked to them about it and a system to lighten the connection load like that is in the workds.
17:15.11Antiarcs/workds/works/
17:15.12BarbanusZpanzer, oh, I thought you meant the wow patch
17:15.26Adirelle|workFWIW ?
17:15.30AntiarcFor what it's worth.
17:15.33Adirelle|workoki
17:15.34BarbanusZpanzer, mirror of wowace.com/files here: http://wow.tecnobrat.com/wowace/
17:15.41Adirelle|workstill learning acronyms :)
17:15.48AntiarcHehe, no problem.
17:16.08Trancerthe mighty lingo of irc
17:16.18TrancerI wonder how many people in here are sysadmins ^^
17:16.20ZpanzerAce Barbanus :p
17:16.23Tranceror programmers for that matter
17:16.25Barbanusiirc is another one that throws people off
17:16.33Adirelle|workI feel a make an heavy use of "btw" where I should note, but I can't help myself
17:16.35Antiarc<-- sysadmin and programmer. :D
17:16.40Adirelle|works/note/not/
17:16.44Barbanusor, "ygm" :P
17:16.46ZpanzerThanks mate.
17:16.52Kinkxwww.acronymfinder.com
17:16.54TrancerAntiarc: likewise ;)
17:16.55Kinkx^_^
17:17.27Trancerand zoo admin, stinking irc users, never behave.
17:17.29Adirelle|workpurl, acronym is www.acronymfinder.com
17:17.36purl...but acronym is already something else...
17:17.45Adirelle|workwhat is acronym purl ?
17:17.45Barbanus~acronym
17:17.47purlfrom memory, acronym is LSD, DSL, SDL, SPL, PS2, SP2, MSP, MPG, GNP
17:17.53Barbanuslol
17:17.59Adirelle|workoO
17:18.12BarbanusLSD, rofl
17:18.24BarbanusAntiarc, I am also :P
17:18.27Adirelle|work~literal acronym
17:18.29purl"acronym" is "LSD, DSL, SDL, SPL, PS2, SP2, MSP, MPG, GNP"
17:18.51Adirelle|workpurl hepl
17:18.52purlTo gte hepl, /jion #debain
17:18.53Adirelle|workpurl help
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17:18.58Adirelle|worklool
17:19.00Feldiahahah
17:19.01Antiarc~flail
17:19.12[dRaCo]try acronym is also ...
17:19.33Adirelle|workpurl listkeys
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17:19.50Barbanuspurl, acronym is also www.acronymfinder.com
17:19.52purlokay, Barbanus
17:19.53Adirelle|workpurl listkeys edge
17:19.59Barbanus~acronym
17:20.01purli guess acronym is LSD, DSL, SDL, SPL, PS2, SP2, MSP, MPG, GNP, or http://www.acronymfinder.com
17:21.06[dRaCo]just imagine him saying that out loud :D
17:21.46Amadeoher
17:21.55Barbanus~seen Kaelten
17:22.16purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (20h 18m 35s) #wowace (20h 18m 35s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 8h 11m 28s, last said: 'how do I use tar or gzip to zip a directory?'.
17:22.16[dRaCo]yeah
17:22.16[dRaCo]anyway ;)
17:22.24Amadeohehe
17:23.12NayonWows Login server just went down...
17:23.52MikmaanUS or enGB?
17:23.59NayonUS
17:24.44Adirelle|workkaelten seems to do things involving zipping :)
17:24.50Tornhoofyou broke it nayon
17:25.03Adirelle|workhe should enable rsync access to allow easy mirroring
17:25.06NayonDamnit, Now people in IRC are blaming me for breaking wow..
17:25.24_neuron_dammit Nayon my world server just went down
17:25.27trh_Nayon: did u ever thought, that u maybe did? :)
17:25.30Mikmaseems like EU died too
17:25.30cladhaireNayon: WTF
17:25.36cladhairenot cool
17:25.40Nayon-_-
17:25.45sylvanaarare you talking about mirroring wau or the svn?
17:25.50Adirelle|workNayon: you killed the EU servers too ? damn you !
17:25.59Adirelle|worksylvanaar: files
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17:26.09NayonCenarius server blames me for busted things, now you guys too?! Next thing you know Blue will come up and say yea Nayon's fault..
17:26.12sylvanaarthere is at least one mirror
17:26.19sylvanaarmaybe 2
17:26.20trh_omg nayon.. downloading a 2.65 mb patch takes 5minutes on a 16mbit connection.. fix that :P
17:26.20sylvanaaralready
17:26.36TsericNayon: Thanks for bringing down the entire WoW server farm
17:26.38Adirelle|workthere's two, I remember of one, but I dunno how they works
17:26.46Adirelle|work~mirrors
17:26.48purlmethinks mirrors is at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt or available via apt-setup or at http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://people.debian.org/~md/mirrors-list.txt
17:26.49_neuron_this is the world event to introduce BC :P
17:26.51sylvanaartheres svn1 which i dont know
17:26.53_neuron_hm, EU's back
17:27.00sylvanaarand theres pasta's
17:27.12Barbanusand mine :)
17:27.20_neuron_wonder wth they just did :P
17:27.22Adirelle|workgives past, I known svn1 : http://svn1.wowace.com/files/
17:27.23Nayonlol
17:27.28sylvanaarif you have a mirrot get it on the mirror list
17:27.39Adirelle|workBarbanus: syncing with http (wget or the like ?)
17:28.01BarbanusAdirelle, using the same script as wowace.com/files does to update from the SVN
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17:28.05Adirelle|workoki
17:28.35Barbanussylvanaar, and where is this list? :)
17:28.43sylvanaarhttp://svn1.wowace.com/mirror.txt
17:28.52sylvanaarhttp://svn1.wowace.com/mirrors.txt
17:29.10Adirelle|workpurl, no, mirrors is <reply>Find the list of mirrors at http://svn1.wowace.com/mirror.txt
17:29.12purlAdirelle|work: okay
17:29.12BarbanusAnd how would I get there? :)
17:29.17Adirelle|workaaah
17:29.19clad|showerAdirelle: ...
17:29.21Feldiahow up to date are those mirrors?
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17:29.27BarbanusMy mirror is http://wow.tecnobrat.com/wowace/
17:29.30clad|showerAdirelle: Purl isn't ours..
17:29.37clad|showeryou can't make everythign ace specific
17:29.46Adirelle|workarf
17:29.47sylvanaaralso, please help test WAU 1.7 which has that list in the server dropdown
17:29.47Barbanushaha
17:29.50Adirelle|workdidn't know
17:29.56clad|showerAdirelle: Yeah.. you really need to put that back
17:30.09Adirelle|workpurl, no, mirros is  at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt or available via apt-setup or at http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://people.debian.org/~md/mirrors-list.txt
17:30.10purlokay, Adirelle|work
17:30.18Adirelle|workgood purl
17:30.21Barbanusyou mispelled mirrors
17:30.28Barbanuswhich is kinda important :P
17:30.43Adirelle|workpurl, no, mirrors is at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt or available via apt-setup or at http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://people.debian.org/~md/mirrors-list.txt
17:30.44purlAdirelle|work: okay
17:30.55Adirelle|worki feel something like having two left hands...
17:30.58sylvanaarif you are interested in helping to test WAU 1.7 join #wau
17:31.10NayonI have 256Kb of this 2.0.5 Patch and now its like yea no more download for you!
17:31.12Adirelle|works/something/sometimes/
17:31.27maiasylvanaar: I'd love to, but unfortunately I'm running OSX.
17:31.38[dRaCo]you probably should delete "mirros"
17:31.49Adirelle|workpurl, forget mirros
17:31.49purli forgot mirros, Adirelle|work
17:32.57KarlThePaganNayon, http://geocities.com/karlthepagan/wow/WoW-2.0.4.6314-to-2.0.5.6320-enUS-patch.zip
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17:33.41Adirelle|workhmm... I let xchat open on my home computer, I think my wife is hearing beeps each time my highlight words appears on the chan :D
17:34.25Kirkburn|afkAnyone got an enGB copy of 2.0.5?
17:34.32BarbanusNayon, are you in the US?
17:34.36chris|offftp://ftp.vein.hu/pub/windows/games/patches/worldofwarcraft/
17:34.37[dRaCo]she prolly threw the pc out of the window a long time ago, adirelle ;)
17:34.38Kirkburn|afknvm, I think it's downloading now
17:34.56|Kev|maia: if you're interested in testing macaceupdater ... ;)
17:35.12Adirelle|work[dRaCo]: well, I don't think, I'd rather bet she's talked with her friends on MSN all the day long
17:35.14Barbanushttp://wow.tecnobrat.com/patches/WoW-2.0.4.6314-to-2.0.5.6320-enUS-patch.exe
17:35.25Adirelle|works/she's talked/she was talking/
17:35.32Barbanusif anyone needs the enUS one :P
17:36.37Kirkburn|afkHey, I've not seen something say "dependency out of date" before
17:36.47NayonWoo for internet hiccus
17:37.07NayonBarbanus: I am in the us
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17:37.19BarbanusNayon, then use http://wow.tecnobrat.com/patches/WoW-2.0.4.6314-to-2.0.5.6320-enUS-patch.exe
17:37.31NayonThanks!
17:37.35Barbanusshould be quick too :)
17:37.38CrisCrOssanyone use guildportal?
17:39.10Antiarcyes, and it sucks. ;_;
17:39.16NayonIt really does
17:39.32Adirelle|workcya
17:39.41AntiarcWe're phasing it out step-by-step.
17:39.54Nayonand the paypal stuff they have on their site to donate/upgrade accounts = very very unsafe
17:39.55Fisker-So i bought 3 copies of wow to play tonight
17:42.27KarlThePaganbur ... 3?
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17:44.18CrisCrOssi wish there was another free alternative to guild sites
17:44.31CrisCrOssi have a guild but i see all these other guild sites and they have dedicated players
17:44.36CrisCrOsshosting vent irc and web
17:44.39CrisCrOssim pretty much all alone
17:44.43CrisCrOssn i have 110 members
17:45.11NayonQuestion is there a structure standard in place for Toc files like the lua code structures?
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17:46.21maiaAFK|Kev|: actually I am
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17:47.00|Kev|maia: are you using it already?
17:47.07maianope
17:48.04|Kev|http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater iirc
17:48.10ThorgardAnyone using cyCircled and Bartender3?
17:48.41jjb_only bartender3
17:48.48CrisCrOssonly bartender3 as well
17:48.55[dRaCo]bt3 only
17:48.56jjb_for what is the other addon?
17:49.06zirahcircled buttons
17:49.11CrisCrOssya i dun like it...
17:49.18CrisCrOssits too small
17:49.21|Kev|maia: the next version will include many extra features, but 0.2 should work fine for you - if it doesn't, please post in the issues tracker
17:49.25CIA-1703benumbed * r25275 10MusicStream/ (frames/player.xml modules/PlayerSettings.lua): MusicStream: Added Track Length to Standalone Player.
17:49.37jjb_tach maia
17:49.45CrisCrOssi need to reduce my addon count
17:49.47maiahola jjb.
17:49.54CrisCrOssi have too much
17:49.58NayonAnyone have any idea who to change skinner from the defauly greyish to other colors?
17:50.23Nayondefault*
17:50.25jjb_wowace.com is still too slow
17:50.29maia|Kev|: thanks. is there a forum thread somewhere for macaceupdater?
17:50.35CrisCrOsshas anyone tried Zomg box ? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5766-ZomgBox.html
17:50.42CrisCrOssits similar to CT_Viewport im assuming
17:51.23Kirkburn|afkWhy am I getting a disturbingly bright overlay colour on my target's frame in agUF?
17:51.59Kirkburn|afkIt's bright pink :/
17:52.27CrisCrOssi still have a problem with tinytip options not loading :(
17:52.33maia|Kev|: I assume the addons I select are simply replaced in the addon directory, without backup or anything else, right?
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17:53.20QuetziKirkburn|afk, its debuff highlighting
17:53.26evlCan I make a table indexed by number?
17:53.41evlI tried map = { [2] = "foo", [3] = "bar"}
17:54.10Kirkburn|afkIt was supposedly turned off :/
17:54.13CIA-1703grennon * r25276 10Minimalist/ (. Minimalist.lua Minimalist.toc MinimalistGlobals.lua): Minimalist: -Fix QuestLevel Show, Switched Console Messages to AceDB, Moved some vars to main lua file, fixed up .toc
17:54.26CIA-1703karlthepagan * r25277 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):
17:54.26CIA-17Grouper:
17:54.26CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:54.30QuetziKirkburn|afk, same here, if you find a way to keep it off let me know ;)
17:54.46[dRaCo]there is
17:54.51KarlThePaganGrouper is looking very nice IMO - people check it out! auto-add auto-join are stable now!
17:54.52[dRaCo]check the forums
17:55.01[dRaCo]a lil hackish, but it works
17:55.03Kirkburn|afk[dRaCo], at us?
17:55.10[dRaCo]yeah
17:55.45[dRaCo]wait a moment, gonna get a link for you
17:55.45Kirkburn|afkAble to tell us here since the site is being silly today? :)
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17:56.20|Kev|maia: you should backup yourself, but they're backed up automatically too
17:56.38|Kev|maia: there isn't a forum for it yet, perhaps I should make one
17:56.39CrisCrOsswhats a buggrabber like addon
17:56.43CrisCrOssthat lets me copy the bug out
17:56.57CrisCrOssi have a few startup errors im getting with Battleground_fu ufriendsfu
17:57.00CrisCrOssFuBar_uFriends\Core.lua:28: AceLocale(uFriends): Translation "has come online" does not exist.
17:57.06maia|Kev|: well, at least keep a thread on wowace.com/forums - in case you dont have one yet.
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17:57.13Kirkburn|afkUm, bugrabber does, surely?
17:57.33CrisCrOssit doesnt have a box that lets me copy it
17:57.36CrisCrOssit simply types it out in chat
17:57.40CrisCrOsswhich i dont want
17:57.40|Kev|maia: good plan :)
17:57.52QuetziKirkburn|afk, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4137.msg76250#msg76250
17:58.00[dRaCo]yeah
17:58.16CrisCrOssne idea...
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17:58.24CrisCrOsson how to get it in a box like thing to copy paste all errors
17:58.48maia|Kev|: actually it does seem to create a backup - I now have a folder named _downloads and a folder named _addonBackups which contains all replaced files. nice.
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18:01.17maia|Kev|: oh - I'd love to sort the pane by each header to easily check the latest updates, and also which addons I'm planning to install. but I guess thats on your todo list anyway.
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18:01.43TheKarnWAU is throwing errirs
18:01.46TheKarnerrors
18:01.53maia|Kev|: plus the addon name could link to the wowace wiki search
18:02.36cncfanaticsyo all ! :)
18:02.47Kirkburn|afk[dRaCo], thanks
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18:02.53Kirkburn|afkum
18:02.55|Kev|maia: check the issues list, and add your ideas please :)
18:02.56Kirkburn|afkQuetzi, even?
18:03.20sbuhmmmmmmmm
18:03.29sbuneed confirmation if TBC beta client works with final :)
18:03.32Vanish|Kev|: how is 0.3 coming along?
18:03.34sbu(servers)
18:03.37maia|Kev|: oh. aye. :)
18:03.38|Kev|sbu: it works fine
18:03.46sbu|Kev|: nice, thank you :)
18:03.58|Kev|Vanish: I'm torn on how many new things I want to add
18:04.07CrisCrOsscan anyone get TinyTip Options to load?
18:04.11Vanish|Kev|: LOL
18:04.13|Kev|at the moment I've introduced a crash once installation's complete, which I should nuke
18:04.19sbuis TBC already released in US?
18:04.24|Kev|then I could either release 0.3, or wait and do more
18:04.27|Kev|I'll probably release 0.3
18:04.35|Kev|I want to get the pretty icons out into the wild asap :)
18:04.44Vanish|Kev|: I would release 0.3 once it's stable before introducing anything new
18:04.58nee-lap0.3 of what?
18:05.01|Kev|it has 'uninstall' too now, which is nice
18:05.04|Kev|nee-lap: macaceupdater
18:05.08nee-lapAh
18:05.12CrisCrOssTinyTip: TinyTipOptions Addon LoadOnDemand Error - MISSING
18:05.14Kirkburn|afksbu, no
18:05.15CrisCrOssi keep getting this error
18:05.17nee-lap:)
18:05.28Kirkburn|afkCrisCrOss, no problems for me
18:05.37Kirkburn|afkCrisCrOss, latest version of everything?
18:05.40sbu|Kev|: i know that it works with wow 2.0, but will it also work with BC in some hours? :)
18:05.41CrisCrOssyes
18:05.44CrisCrOssiuno why either
18:05.56|Kev|sbu: I can't say that
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18:06.00sbubecause tech support says that you should uninstall beta clients :/
18:06.01CrisCrOssis tinytip options supposed to be in the same folder as the other addons
18:06.06|Kev|but the TBC final client works with live fine
18:06.06CrisCrOssor within the TinyTip folder
18:06.10CIA-1703zacwolf * r25278 10FuBar_AEmotesFU/FuBar_AEmotesFU.toc:
18:06.10CIA-17FuBar_AEmotesFU:
18:06.10CIA-17- Updated TOC to 20003
18:06.12|Kev|and I'm afraid I misread, and thought you asked that
18:06.17sbu|Kev|: yeah, thats what i know, already playing with that ;o
18:06.22Kirkburn|afkCrisCrOss, with other addons
18:06.29nee-lapHm. Is anyone using evl_Fonts and Grid?
18:06.31CrisCrOsslet me reinstall
18:06.34CIA-1703zacwolf * r25279 10AEmotes_JonyC/ (. AEmotes_JonyC.toc):
18:06.34CIA-17AEmotes_JonyC:
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18:07.00CIA-17AEmotes:
18:07.00CIA-17- Updated toc to 20003
18:07.00evlnee-lap: i'm using evl_Fonts :P
18:07.16maiaand I'm using Grid :P
18:07.25CIA-1703zacwolf * r25281 10AEmotes_Kelly/ (. AEmotes_Kelly.toc):
18:07.25CIA-17AEmotes_Kelly:
18:07.25CIA-17- Updated TOC to 20003
18:07.38ThorgardBetween you two there's nothing you can't figure out!
18:07.42CIA-1703athou * r25282 10EnchantList/EnchantList.lua:
18:07.42CIA-17EnchantList:
18:07.42CIA-17- Fixed a bug where the addon was filtering messages from all sources, not just whispers
18:08.31Benumbedmod spam =x
18:09.25Benumbeddid anyone here play camelot and remember that ui layer in game that would make that mark of your screen see thru (could see to desktop)
18:09.37VanishI just learned more about Boone than I wanted to know when he logged
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18:14.04VanishDon't everybody speak at once
18:14.09|Kev|ok
18:15.24Benumbedyea
18:17.56Vanish:D
18:18.51ThorgardVanish, oh, sorry, didn't see you talking. I had closed my eyes.
18:19.13Vanishhehe
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18:19.23VanishTakadi! Hiya!
18:19.36TakadiVanish: hey
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18:19.55VanishLove the latest henge. Working on adding middle-clicks to several buttons. ;D
18:20.21Thorgardnevcairiel, ping
18:21.37VanishTakadi: Not easy though, at least to do what I want. (i.e. Adding a midle-click ot the Water/Food button that will drink/eat if necessary)
18:21.52VanishHiya Clad
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18:23.16VanishHiya Elk
18:23.23TakadiVanish: yeah, the way the secure actions are designed makes it hard.
18:24.12VanishTakadi: I'm also trying to work out adding Mana cost to tooltips and dimming buttons in combat
18:26.30VanishDoes any happen to have a link to Blizzard's SecureActionButton API by any chance?
18:26.41kergoth"An optimist stays up to see the New Year in. A pessimist waits to make sure the old one leaves."
18:26.54sbumhhmm
18:27.17Vanishkergoth: and a realist is there t ensure both are true
18:27.18sbui really need beta client to work with live tbc servers in some hours :p
18:27.49ElkanoVanish, iirc it's documented within the lua files themseve so check out wdn
18:28.18VanishElkano: Ahhh, thank you
18:29.06VanishI thought I read it online once, but couldn't remember. might have been at WowWiki. :shurg: I'll check the lua files
18:29.08Amadeoheh that's funny
18:29.17AmadeoI just went up to GameStop and preordered TBC for tomorrow
18:29.30yacoobImpossible.
18:29.31cncfanatics~seen nevcairiel
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18:29.55yacoobJust like that?
18:29.55AmadeoYep
18:29.55yacoobThen you do not exist.
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18:29.59AmadeoWell, the first store said they had no more left...they said a store 3 minutes away had more, so I went there :)
18:29.59VanishOne of my daughter's friends is working late at Wal*Mart tonight. She's gonna hold back a copy of TBC for me to come in and buy at midnight
18:30.22AmadeoThey have a midnight opening, I might go
18:30.25AmadeoSince i'll be up anyway
18:30.25TainI'll stop on my home from work tomorrow and grab one somewhere.
18:30.47yacoobVanish, in fact it's not important to have tbc tonight. Login server will go down right away.
18:30.47TainI refuse to contribute to the industry-wide trend of shitty software by pre-ordering anything, ever.
18:31.05VanishTain: Same here
18:31.24Tain"Hi you make shit and put it in a box but I'll give you money for before I ever get to smell it, keep up the good work!"
18:31.41yacoobTain, Vanish, what's the difference? the money is going to blizz anyway...
18:31.44TainBut I'm just bitter and jaded.
18:31.55AmadeoIf taking a stand against that would change things, I'd be all for it
18:32.09TainThe difference is games should prove that they are good, not be sold because they have a name on it before anyone ever gets to see it.  
18:32.21Chinkuyacoob: I'd suggest the account servers will go down first :-) thus people being able to unlock their accounts for tbc will be able to login as only few will get past the crowds ;-)
18:32.22TainObviously that isn't a probelm in this specific case since we all know what's there.
18:32.25krkawasn't the beta that?
18:32.27yacoobTain, when you'll see that TBC proved itself? :)
18:32.31krkathe beta proved the game was good
18:32.35AmadeoBut companies like to ship low volumes of products in order to force people to preorder, so if people want a copy when it's out, that's their only choice
18:32.41cncfanaticshmmm, is the PreClick handler in WoW buffed somehow ?
18:32.48krkasure, for games like "LoTR: The Game", i agree
18:32.50cncfanaticsbugged*
18:32.56TainIt simply keeps the process going so games that do suck still sell millions.
18:32.57Vanishyacoob: It's a principle that applies to all software, not just this expansion. ;)
18:33.16yacoobChinku, well, my account is frozen... :D
18:33.26krkaand tbh, blizzard have had a flawless track record with game quality
18:33.32TainBlizzard still doesn't get a free pass.
18:33.38krkathey have everything to lose by delivering a crappy product
18:33.39yacoobbut still, I'd be enabling it in a month, I think.
18:33.48TainThey put out another brand new game and I'll wait for it to hit the shelves before I buy it.
18:33.48yacoob3 weeks of business travel in the meantime.
18:33.52Vanishkrka Blizzard does NOT have a flawless record. better than most, yes, but it isn't flawless
18:33.56AmadeoBlizzard isn't the same company to me now as it was in the past...all the people who made them are gone
18:34.08yacoob...and they made guild wars! :D
18:34.13krkaVanish: example of failed game, since warcraft 2?
18:34.23TainReally it's pretty simple though.  Put out a good game, make money.  Not put out a game with a recognizable game and make money before it ever hits the shelves.
18:34.31AmadeoYeah, Guild Wars was pretty sad :) But what's up with Hellgate: London? Now it's an MMORPG?
18:34.33Sroshhowever, vanish, they have been consequent - I think no company has so far retracted two games that were already totally hyped
18:34.44yacoobAmadeo, what's wrong with GW?
18:34.44VanishLOL! notice the "since". It isn't just failed games though. it's failed updates, etc.
18:34.53TainGuild Wars is a great game for specific players.
18:35.00TainIt just isn't a good for everyone game.
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18:35.06Amadeoyacoob: Guild Wars was the most unbalanced PvP game I've ever played...at least when it was new
18:35.12krkathey patched starcraft for a very long time after its popularity dropped
18:35.26TainAnd Diablo 2 also.
18:35.31yacoobas for quality, well, I can say that Blizz is so very not listening to anything but their board of directors.
18:35.45yacooblike, the bug is in, people scream about it, nothing is done.
18:35.51TainWell I can't even begin to agree with that, yacoob.
18:35.54yacoob*That* is ignorance.
18:36.33yacoobTain, how about unfinished content? Like, hm. Rogues' castle?
18:36.39yacoob(don't remember the name)
18:36.41BarbanusI don't agree with that at all.
18:36.46AmadeoI still want Hero classes :P
18:36.51Antiarcyacoob, WoW is arguably the most polished MMO on the market, bar none.
18:36.51AmadeoSome diversity
18:36.56AntiarcThat's hard to argue against.
18:37.12AntiarcNo, it's not 100% content-complete
18:37.12BarbanusTake yesterday for instance, 2.0.5 caused huge issues, so they pulled the patch back
18:37.12AntiarcBut it's a far sight better than anything else.
18:37.12yacoobAntiarc, s/most polished/biggest/
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18:37.13TainAbsolutely there's bugs.  But to say they are completely ignored is ignorant.
18:37.22AntiarcDisagree. Give me another MMO with more polish than WoW.
18:37.23VanishI hope WoW is NEVER content complete. That means it's reached EOL
18:37.27AmadeoYou know what's completely ignored? Druids being overpowered ZOMG!!!!
18:37.45Tainnowais droods drool pallys rule
18:37.47kergothdamnit, i placed an order on gamersloot for the expansion and went to cancel the amazon preorder, but the amazon one was already processing, so now i'm gonna have an extra.  time to get someone at work addicted.
18:37.50ChinkuTain: but somehow the community gets the impression that the most annoying bugs are ignored and only minor issues get fixed first.
18:37.52VanishDruids overpowered? Do we play the same game? ;)
18:37.55yacoobAntiarc, my point is, the idea of wow is nice, but I have an impression that the amount of work to be done overpowered Blizz.
18:38.27ChinkuRouges are overpowdered! :-)
18:38.33AmadeoWhen you preorder a title online, do they ship it so it arrives on the release date?
18:38.36BarbanusMore bugs recently have been ignored, I think that simply an issue with deadlines and timelines, than ignoring then bugs.
18:38.41AntiarcAgain, I disagree. They consistently deliver good stuff. Buggy, definitely, and that should be worked on...but in comparison to competing products, it's head-and-shoulders above the rest.
18:38.42yacooband as for me, I'd prefer something smaller, but without all those little annoyances.
18:38.52TainOf course individuals can get that idea, Chinku.  But that doesn't make it true.  People complain that a "minor" issue gets fixed while others go untouched, when there are completely different and unrelated teams working on each thing.
18:39.11Barbanusfor instance people will say the "blink bug" is a minor one...
18:39.14yacoobdo rogues' poisons persist through zoning, at last? :D
18:39.18nee-lapI wish I were a rogue. Walking around as Skeletor is cool
18:39.20ChinkuTain: why then not add some transparency to the whole process?
18:39.29Barbanusits FARRRR from trivial to fix
18:39.31TainAmadeo in my experience (from watching people bitch about their games arriving) it has usually been either same day or next day.
18:39.39AmadeoTain: I see!
18:39.43yacoobalso, the CMs are horrible :))
18:39.46Chinkupeople tend to understand better if they are told some reasons for what is done ;-)
18:39.54TainI disagree with that, Chinku.
18:39.57yacoobexcluding the one posting about API
18:40.03TainIndividuals are smart, people are idiots.
18:40.08BarbanusChinku, if the programmers are giving reasons why things are and aren't getting done, then they aren't programming.
18:40.12AmadeoWizard's first rule!
18:40.25TainRead the responses to *any* blue statement on the forums.
18:40.31TainNo matter how innocuous.
18:40.36AmadeoThe first response is usually..."First!"
18:40.55Chinkuwell, not talking about the developers. CMs and such - blue statements not only about *what* has been done, but also understandable reasons *why* sth had to be done.
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18:40.57yacoobTain, eh. I mean they're not doing their job.
18:41.04yacoobThey're not communicating stuff to people.
18:41.13TainI would love to get honesty and have them be completely forthcoming with everything.  However when I see the results I wouldn't say a damn thing either.
18:41.45BarbanusChinku, the programmers are the only ones who know "why"
18:41.57TainHell, if I were Blizzard I'd shut down all the forums (except the UI forum!) and cut off the never ending drivel.
18:42.07BarbanusTain, hehe
18:42.16pastamancerSony did that for a while with EQ
18:42.25pastamancerseemed to work out well
18:42.31yacoobthe problem I see is that there are managers and devs at blizz. And they lack people inbetween, looking at community of players, interacting with them.
18:42.39ChinkuBarbanus: mh, well, maybe you're right, maybe not - can't tell, it's beyond my horizon as I don't now anything from inside Blizz. possibly due to the above reasons. ;-)
18:42.48TainBecause it is a strategy that can't win, yacoob
18:42.53Thraeyacoob: Except for slouken ;)
18:43.00TainThe more you try to communicate and work with the players the more they scream.
18:43.04yacoobdevs are working low level and give output like 'oh, this could be done' or 'nah, this is not plausible from technical point of view'
18:43.14AntiarcSlouken has the luxury of communicating with technically inclined players.
18:43.27yacoobTain, well, of course! But that's their problem to solve it out. And that's what I dislike, total ignorance from their side :)
18:43.35TainIt isn't igornance.
18:43.38TainYou're using that word incorrectly.
18:43.39yacoobbut hey, that's what PR is for.
18:43.43AntiarcMe, I've done tech support. If I worked for Bliz as a dev, I wouldn't want to have to go within 500 yards of General.
18:43.45TainIt is calculated.
18:43.53BarbanusChinku, I work at a company that has its own developers, I'm the "middle man" between business and the developers. If the developers told me why they did everything, all we would be talking baout is the why's and how's, and they would never actually be doing.
18:44.04CIA-1703derkyle * r25283 10ItemSync/:
18:44.04CIA-17ItemSync: initial commit
18:44.04CIA-17- ItemSync the happy item gatherer and toolkit.
18:44.11ShubAntiarc: True, true.  Tech support drains you
18:44.17Thrae99% of people don't know what they're talking about when they demand changes on the WoW forums.
18:44.18yacoobTain, sometimes when I see Blizz handling some major fsckup (like those servers overheating in summer), I fail to see any 'calculated' or 'under control' there.
18:44.21TainIn an idea world I'd compltely agree with you yacoob, I want to know what is going on.  
18:44.49TainBut I know the other 8.9 million (or whatever) players can't handle it with any semblance of maturity.
18:44.49yacoobTain, of course I'm talking about ideal situation, but at least they could pour some more effort into making it closer to ideal :DD
18:45.03TainThey can only do that by getting rid of the player base.
18:45.06ChinkuBarbanus: so you're communicating stuff internally, but not to clients? perhaps that's a difference...
18:45.08TainThat's where things go wrong. :)
18:45.11Antiarcrouges shuld get a instant kill ability from 60 yrds because hnuters r imba and need 2b killd dammit bliz y arent u listening 2 me
18:45.28yacoobas for ignoring folks
18:45.32yacoobremember priest review?
18:45.36pastamancerAntiarc: this is why we can't have nice things! :p
18:45.43yacoobthere was a thread on forum where they ASKED for feedback
18:45.44TainIt is really difficult to do any class balancing.  
18:45.59Chinkuyep, right.
18:45.59yacooband there was one, constructive, various ideas
18:46.05yacoobNOTHING was commented.
18:46.12yacoobNot even 'nice idea, but we won't do it'
18:46.15yacoobZilch.
18:46.15ThraeIt's straight politics. You can claim that it would be better with more information, but look at America's politics -- they do the SAME thing. They keep as much information from the people as possible, because they know more information can breed negativity better then no information.
18:46.54TainThrae ... I'd rather not compare American politics with... anything.  That's almost, "worst case scenario" stuff.
18:47.00yacoobIn my eyes, that's "Hey, we don't give a flying fsck about your opinion, but PR manual told us to show we care"
18:47.20ThraeWith no information, even the stupid would have hard time making decisive conclusions. With information, then their views start becoming dangerous.
18:47.34ThraeThe 'ol "No News Is Good News"
18:47.52TainGno Gnews is Good Gnews with Gary Gnu.
18:47.54yacoobwhy do you think "working as intended" is a runing joke within wow community? :))
18:48.29Chinkuis "sink or swim" really the best choice? I don't think so. Too much idealism on my side of the keyboard? maybe. ;-)
18:48.35ThraeThat's from the GMs, who are part of Tech Support. And if you worked in Tech Support, I bet you've said "Working As Intended" or some such at one point ;)
18:48.44ThraeI know I have.
18:49.02TainAlso you have to keep in mind that the forum community is nont the entirely playerbase.  It is a small percentage of people who actually play WoW.
18:49.10AmadeoWhen I was working in tech support, I just said, "Cry more noob!"
18:49.10yacoobThrae, one can say I'm working in some kind of technical support (very specialistic and for narrow market). I can handle things better than that :)
18:49.14BarbanusChinku, I communicate between Business, Sales, Development, and Support.
18:49.15TainWow I butchered that first sentence.
18:49.26BarbanusTruly, the middleman
18:49.35BarbanusOr the "translater" :P
18:49.35yacoobAnyway, can someone tell me whether poisons now persist through zoning?
18:49.42Barbanusyacoob, yes.
18:49.45Thraeyacoob: Yeah, that's not REAL tech support like a GMs have.
18:49.48yacoobBarbanus, Speaker-to-animal? :D
18:49.57ThraeThat's more just phone IT help desk, sounds like to me.
18:50.22Barbanusyacoob, techneese to busineese
18:50.49ThraeTain: The forum community is small because the rest of the players are really Chinese Gold Farmers selling stuff to each other :D
18:51.02BarbanusI've sat in many meetings and had a developer say something, and a business person look at me all confused, and then say, "Oh, he means ..."
18:51.22ThraeBarbanus: It's called "Technical Writing" ;)
18:51.35Amadeotechnical writers get paid big bucks!
18:51.48BarbanusThrae, except usually in speak here :P
18:51.57ThraeWell, they aren't mute!
18:52.03nevcairielmeh, again pings
18:52.06ThraeExcept for Sally.
18:52.08AmadeoMute makes Rogue videos!
18:52.09yacoobbut sometimes you need to use pictures to get ideas through...
18:52.19yacoob:D
18:52.20nevcairielThorgard: you pinged me earlier?
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18:53.01MerlinX2khow do i show a Frame with Ace2, i tryed to use MyAddon_Frame:Show() but i got an errormessage
18:53.39Thorgardnevcairiel, aye, 'tis about BT3. Dunno if you know, but the 'green' area you have to represent the bars when they're unlocked isn't scaling properly with the actual buttons for the Pet Action Bar.
18:53.51BarbanusThrae, hehe yea, or a "business analyst"
18:53.54ThorgardOr, rather, it's too 'short'
18:54.15ThorgardI've buttons sticking out of the 'green' area.
18:54.19nevcairielThorgard: i dont play a class with a pet, so i didnt notice yet .. but i will look into it
18:54.21Findobry vecer
18:54.25CIA-1703thrae * r25284 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.toc: VitalWatch -- Updated TOC
18:54.41Thorgardnevcairiel, aye, no worries. Just thought I'd mention it. ;)
18:54.44CIA-1703thrae * r25285 10VitalWatchOptions/VitalWatchOptions.toc: VitalWatchOptions -- Updated TOC
18:55.42AmadeoAnyone here play WoW in wine?
18:56.05AmadeoI need to squeeze out some more performance
18:56.10AmadeoI did the registry key thing already
18:56.23[dRaCo]get a new pc :þ
18:56.27ChinkuAmadeo: not on a regular basis and not in raids, but it works well for some farming outdoors or at the AH
18:56.43Amadeo[dRaCo]: Only if you buy it ;)
18:56.50[dRaCo]damn.
18:57.30ChinkuAmadeo: mh, might be a question of graphics board and drivers; mine is an nVidia board and WoW runs quite smooth with just doing "wine WoW.exe -opengl"...
18:57.44AmadeoI have a 6600 GT
18:57.50Chinkume2 ;-)
18:57.52Amadeo97.46 drivers
18:58.09AmadeoIt's not quite as smooth as I would like it to be :)
18:58.12Amadeonot bad though
18:58.19Chinkusounds familiar; probably the same as mine...
18:58.25yacoobAmadeo, I tried to, but unique combination of bugs made me simply make a win32 partition... :/
18:58.27AmadeoI fixed the mouse issue I was having
18:58.48ChinkuAmadeo: mh, might be not enough when it comes to raids and such?
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18:59.08b1f30_w0rkhey all
18:59.16Amadeoyacoob: Mainly the two problems I'm having right now are...I'm missing about 10-15 fps as compared to my Windows install, and my sound clips/cuts out at times
18:59.17b1f30_w0rkhaving a hell of a time with svn checkout
18:59.25Chinkuarrrr, 2.0.5? what's it now?
18:59.26AmadeoChinku: I can't imagine I could play in a raid with it
18:59.41b1f30_w0rksvn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/25285'
19:00.03Thraeb1f30_w0rk: svn is very slow right now, give it time
19:00.15kagaroChinku: you do a lot of De translations dont you ?
19:00.15b1f30_w0rkThrae: ah ok
19:00.20ChinkuAmadeo: I know for sure that friends play guild wars using Cedega... perhaps you could give that one a try.
19:00.28Chinkukagaro: yes, I did some.
19:00.43ChinkuAmadeo: ehm, well. I meant: cedega for wow. :-)
19:00.44kagaroChinku: could I get you to go through Talismonger and add the de translations?
19:00.48AmadeoYou know, I tried out Cedega...to be honest, I didn't see anything much different in performance between it and wine
19:00.53Amadeoso I just got rid of it
19:01.00Amadeodifferent/difference
19:01.02kagaroChinku: Talismonger-2.0 even
19:01.15Barbanusis there a mod that allows you to pick, and "confirm" yout talents, before actually taking them?
19:01.35AmadeoTalented, I believe
19:01.43kergothlots of them, talented is the best imo
19:01.47Barbanus(the default ui should fucking do that, but thats a different thing entirely)
19:01.50Chinkukagaro: well, yes, of course. I just would try to learn what it does to know what the texts mean...
19:01.58deltronkergoth: leaving suramar eh? :P
19:02.02Amadeokergoth: Did they ever add that idea of being able to send/receive talent specs? :)
19:02.02BarbanusTalented is Ace?
19:02.15Chinkukagaro: where do I actually get a copy of 2.0? is it on the svn trunk?
19:02.18kagaroChinku: nod, i got a wiki page up for it
19:02.23kagaroChinku: yup
19:02.52kergothAmadeo: he added a prat module, you can link builds to other people and stuff.. but only of the same class
19:02.52kagaroChinku: svn trunk
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19:02.52Amadeokergoth: Aw, well that's kinda cool I guess...I just don't use Prat :P
19:02.52kergothdeltron: with zeb anyway, yeah.. sick of the lag and login queues and crap.  keeping my shaman on suramar though
19:02.52cyliAmadeo: I have the same video card as you, and I actually get comparable performance in Cedega as I do in Windows.  Raids and all.
19:02.59kergothAmadeo: pretty sure it can just send it across the addon channels too, havent played with it much though
19:03.00Amadeocyli: OpenGL?
19:03.04deltronkergoth: word. take care man
19:03.25Chinkukagaro: need it before tbc hits tomorrow?
19:03.44kagaroChinku: nope
19:03.56Barbanusthank you kergoth and Amadeo for the suggestion :)
19:03.59cyliAmadeo:  D3D actually, because I had weird artifacts in Cedega with OpenGL.  I was using the experimental nVidia drivers.
19:04.06Elkanokagaro, is talismongler used in any addon by now?
19:04.15Chinkukagaro: ok, fine. svn checkout is close to a pita right now... ;-)
19:04.19Amadeocyli: How do you deal with the flickering cursor?
19:04.27kagaroChinky: when i get all the translations in, im goan switch cart mining,herbs,fish and treasue to use talismonger to get the loot events and node discovery
19:04.36kagaros/Chinky/Chinku/
19:05.02kagaroElkano: i have plugged it in yet, but I will be once its translated
19:05.11cyliAmadeo: Yeah, that's sort of annoying.  I slowed down my mouse speed a bit - it only seems to really flicker in the login screen.  I didn't notice it in game that much.
19:05.15kagaro*havent
19:05.22AmadeoI see
19:05.22CIA-1703benumbed * r25286 10MusicStream/ (3 files in 3 dirs): MusicStream: Added Random Track Module
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19:05.41kagaroElkano: you thinking of using it ?
19:05.42Chinkukagaro: ah, loot events. that reminds me of an issue with cart_quests, but that's not your construction site right now, is it?
19:05.44Zpanzerwhat was the name of that site that hosted the ace addons?
19:05.48AmadeoDoesn't Cedega use wine anyway?
19:05.49Zpanzernot wowace/files/
19:05.55Barbanushow does Musicstream work now? since the URL sound thing was removed?
19:05.57kagaroChinku: kodewulf for cart quests
19:05.58deltronAmadeo: winex i think
19:05.59AmadeoI noticed "wineserver" processes running
19:06.00CrisCrOsswhats a good bug thing for detect bugs
19:06.05grennonis there an easy way to make an attached tablet stay visible?
19:06.06Amadeohm, I see
19:06.07CrisCrOssother than buggrabber
19:06.11Chinku~seen kodewulf
19:06.19purlkodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-62-19.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 8h 50m 26s ago, saying: 'Mimesis: i'll see your soul and raise you a soul and fluffy bunny slippers... :) '.
19:06.19CrisCrOssdoes bugsack require buggrabber
19:06.51ZpanzerBarbanus, what was the link to the site that also hosted ace addons? since the wowace.com site is overloaded
19:06.52Elkanokagaro, well what exactly was it for? but I don't think it was sth I would have need for atm
19:06.58cyliAmadeo: The cool thing about Cedega is that when a bunch of Linux users got banned for "botting", Transgaming fought to get all our accounts reinstated.  The bad thing about Cedega is that we got banned in the first place.
19:07.00b1f30_w0rkanyone have aceupdater working in wine?
19:07.10Amadeocyli: lol :(
19:07.12BarbanusZpanzer, my mirror is http://wow.tecnobrat.com/wowace/
19:07.17AmadeoDid you get your accounts back?
19:07.26cyliAmadeo:  Eventually, yeah.
19:07.26Zpanzerthanks mate
19:07.29AmadeoThat's good at least
19:07.33|Kev|b1f30_w0rk: there's a Java version which works in linux afaik
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19:07.50Goebcyli- what about plain ole wine users?  they still banned? ;)
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19:08.01CIA-1703derkyle * r25288 10ItemSync/ (85 files in 20 dirs):
19:08.01CIA-17ItemSync:
19:08.01CIA-17- The happy item gatherer and manipulation toolkit.
19:08.02cyliGoeb:  Not sure - I heard wine users didn't have the problem.
19:08.05b1f30_w0rk|Kev|: O_o where?
19:08.08AmadeoI think I am just going to stick to plain wine for now
19:08.13kagaroElkano: it handles processing loot evens and node discovery for things like herbs, ore, fish, chests, and fire events telling you xxx was looted with skill yy or node requiring xx skill was found called zz
19:08.17deltroni never had issues with wine and wow
19:08.21b1f30_w0rkgentoo + wine + wow = ftw
19:08.22deltronnever used cedega though
19:08.28|Kev|b1f30_w0rk: it's linked from the old wau page on the wowace wiki
19:08.42kagaroElkano: I have (I think) all the mats you can loot/harvest for tradeskills in it
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19:09.25Elkanoso it would be sth for cartographer's minig/herbalism/fishing/treasure
19:09.31Chinkugnarf. why do they always mess around with my WoW shortcut on the desktop to make it point to that silly launcher... :-|
19:09.47kagarofor example mine some thorium you get Talismonger_NodeFound (Mining) event and a Talismonger_RadicalLooted (ore/gem), count
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19:10.10kagaroElkano; it handles skinning and world drops as well
19:10.13Goebanyone know anything about weapon buffs causing lag/pauses (and a high 'increasing' rate for a second or so)
19:10.39kagaroBasically handles the event sequence and sattes for it
19:10.40Goebit seems to happen even when I disable all addons.. it's bizarre
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19:11.01b1f30_w0rk|Kev|: hate to be a pest - but i'm still looking for the java version
19:11.09kagaroElkano: without any regex matching or chat line parsing
19:11.12EvilGrin|WinGoeb, blame blizzard? :)
19:11.23Goebof course ;)
19:11.53Goebif it's a blizzard bug I'm happy to grumble and sit on my thumbs.
19:12.00Goebif not... I got me a problem to solve ;)
19:12.11kagaroElkano: I may add some more support for more generic evetns for things like looting money and no tradeskill items
19:12.23EvilGrin|WinGoeb, I don't see how it can be an addon when you have the bug with all your addons disabled! :P
19:12.44Chinkukagaro: concerning loot events: perhaps that issue with cart_quests I mentioned earlier could be sth talismonger would be able to handle, too... it's about questgiving items.
19:12.49kagaroElkano: I was trying to reduce down the number of cart modules processing/parising the same events and condense code for 4 modules into 1
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19:13.02Goebevil- nah, not an addon, maybe something in wdb or a graphic setting...
19:13.08kagaroChinku: that would be easy to add actually to talismonger
19:13.11Goebnoone else seems to have this issue
19:13.40AntiarcGoeb: I have a guy in my guild that had a problem with UI hitching when poisons procced
19:13.44AntiarcDunno what he did to solve it.
19:13.44Chinkukagaro: it's a funny thing to carry a questgiving item around IF and spam your (and via noteshare your guildies') map with quest givers. ;-)
19:13.56Elkanoto use Finkle as a skinning knife, do I need to be 58 and equip it?
19:14.04EvilGrin|WinGoeb, well there was a mention in the patch notes about UI acceleration(?) causing problems on some configs. And gave info on how to disable it.
19:14.06Goebanti- hm... when they proc'd?  
19:14.12AntiarcSo he said.
19:14.15kagaroElkano: I believe you need to equip it
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19:14.23Goebevil- oh, good idea... I saw that too
19:14.36Elkanoin that case, it'll stay in bank 4 more levels ^^
19:14.41Chinkukagaro: I had the idea that it would be better to add a map note in the very moment the items dropped somewhere, not upon accepting the quest...
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19:15.07Goebevil- /console timingmethod 1 (that's the dual core issue) and /console m2faster 0 (been around a while... doubt that's it)
19:15.11kagaroChinku: I can add the events to talismonger, just get kodewulf to listen to them and add a note when he gets the evetn
19:15.36EvilGrin|WinGoeb, dual core issue?
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19:15.45kagaroChinku: the only thing I wasnt able to test if it handles BoP items correctly after a roll and the items goes to someone else
19:16.23art3miscan any of you think of an addon or lib that might break /r ?
19:16.35AntiarcI'm running dual core as a rogue and don't get UI hitching with weapon buffs, FWIW
19:16.39Goebevil- yeah apparently in 2.0.4 they added some code to "improve performance on dual core machines"... and some people have been having problems because of it
19:17.02Goebanti- when applying or proc'ing?
19:17.02CIA-1703kergoth * r25290 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: kill the pre 2.0.3 combat potency crap.
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19:17.03AntiarcNo problems with either.
19:17.07ckknighthey all, back
19:17.09EvilGrin|WinGoeb, mmm. I'm dual core and I've been having random disconnects lately :P
19:17.14nymbiahey ckknight
19:17.19AntiarcI -have- had a few random disconnects.
19:17.29Goebanti- yeah it's real unlikely it has anything to do with dual core (the hitching)
19:17.32AntiarcLike...disconnecting right when I pulled Jin'do. As the main tank.
19:17.41EvilGrin|Winouch
19:17.49Goebrandom disconnects *are* likely to be dual core... but there's a dozen other disconnect issues righ tnow too...
19:17.52AntiarcYeah, so, I logged back in to a wipe.
19:17.54EvilGrin|Win:/
19:17.55Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
19:18.09Goebyeah jin'do is one... any fight with mind controls seems to cause disconnects of the main tanks
19:18.45Goebhakkar too
19:18.48Koaschtenomg, can someone implement this into an addon? http://www.koaschten.de/wow/endgame-content.jpg else i will totally loose track of what to do to enter hyjal ;)
19:19.01ThorgardArgh.. eePanels is driving me nuts.
19:19.02*** join/#wowace Nayon (n=MeflakCa@pool-72-74-232-52.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
19:19.14Goebkoasch- that's sick
19:19.43*** join/#wowace Kilabie (n=tonnyl@port2060.ds1-vbr.adsl.cybercity.dk)
19:19.44Chinkukagaro: ok, I'll drop him a line on the forums. he never seems to be around here when I'm on ;-)
19:19.52nymbiaKoaschten: complete two 25 mans and a few caverns of time runs.
19:20.10FryGuykoaschten it's really not that complicated :p
19:20.20b1f30_w0rki'm getting hosed trying to checkout svn's   :-\
19:21.43Antiarcb1f30_w0rk: The site is slammed right now; it's not going to work too well.
19:21.47renchapyeeeha
19:21.51renchapi have my collector :)
19:21.54b1f30_w0rk:-(
19:21.59b1f30_w0rki really like Ace  :-p
19:22.02b1f30_w0rkgimmeh
19:22.05Koaschteni hate snail-mail
19:22.20Koaschteni have to go to a midnight sale cause my amazon order didnt reach me today
19:22.24b1f30_w0rki hate undead warlocks + lag + dc's
19:23.09ThorgardDoes Evil Elvis come here?
19:23.25Prophyyany cd-key merchant url to buy cd key online
19:23.35b1f30_w0rkThorgard: you're freaking me out - the people here at work were just talking about elvis   :-|
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19:23.54Thorgardb1f30_w0rk, maybe I work with you?
19:24.00b1f30_w0rkO_o
19:24.01Goebevil - SET UIFaster 3 seems to be for people having "ui corruption"
19:24.29AntiarcI really want to try SET UIFaster 1 just to see what it does.
19:24.29ThorgardProphyy, www.gamersloot.net ?
19:24.36AntiarcAnd mostly because it says "Don't use this."
19:24.41nymbiado it! ;)
19:24.43Goebanti- exactly what I was thinking ;)
19:24.54Thorgard3 – Enables all UI acceleration.
19:25.03Goebit probably suspends your account and you get a message "we told you not to do that"
19:25.14AntiarcI would claim ignorance.
19:25.27Antiarc"I was trying to turn it on!"
19:25.30GrineI'd use the chewbaca defense
19:25.30Antiarc"0 is off, 1 is on!"
19:25.38kergothThorgard: whats wrong with eepanels? its working for me, though i only created one panel (using a shitty backup video card while mine goes in for repair, so shrunk the viewport)
19:25.41nymbia'my cat typed in SetCVar()'
19:25.53kergothnothing like going from 120fps to a whopping 10 with the backup card
19:26.43pastamancerhmm, adding stacking HoT support to SEEA might not be so bad
19:26.46Thorgardkergoth, I set 'em up on one character ('class' profile), now I'm trying to copy over the settings to another class' profile, but it's not working.
19:27.16yacoobhm
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19:27.40yacoobI wonder if there will be any login-watch tonight, as in website that will gather all mixups on tbc premiere... :D
19:27.44CIA-1703pettigrow * r25291 10Cartographer/Modules/ (4 files): Cartographer: frFR Update
19:27.51kergothahh, profile switching and copying has never been all that refined.. lots of addons dont expect profile changes
19:27.56kergothmeh
19:28.01Thorgardkergoth, while you're here, seen  [2007/01/14 14:23:52-68-x5]: kEnergy\tick.lua:7: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'b' (a nil value)? ;P
19:28.10pastamancerlots of addons don't expect standby either
19:28.19EvilGrin|Winkergoth, yes it's vastly annoying :(
19:28.31yacoobpastamancer, that's what one gets for popularity :D
19:28.51Thorgardkergoth, yeah, that's what I figured.. so I tried editing my eePanels saved variables file.. and got it all set up the way I liked it, logged off, logged back on, and it wiped my panels. :(
19:28.55EvilGrin|Winpastamancer, did you have a wowace files mirror?
19:29.01ThorgardGuess I have to manually re-create them.
19:29.06pastamancerEvilGrin|Win: still do
19:29.08Elkanokergoth, well for fubar plugins it would be enought if Update() is called after a copy
19:29.13b1f30_w0rkpastamancer: you make some nice addons btw
19:29.18CIA-1703ag * r25292 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua:
19:29.18CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
19:29.18CIA-17<PROTECTED>
19:29.19EvilGrin|Winpastamancer, can you remind me of the url? :)
19:29.22Goebpasta- so I've been asked to make a module that gives a different set of defaults... for everything... in grid...
19:29.33Goebpasta- trying to make this less painful ;)
19:29.37pastamancerhttp://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/
19:29.43EvilGrin|Winpastamancer, thanks :)
19:29.50grennonhrm
19:29.55yacooblast.fm down?
19:29.56pastamancerGoeb: why not tell them "no"? :p
19:29.58grennonwhat does locking a tablet actually do?
19:30.02grennonlock its location?
19:30.32Thorgardkergoth, I got that error while fighting on my druid, it started happening mid-fight. Once out of +combat and re-stealthed the bar returned.. only to break mid-fight again.  Rinse, repeat.
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19:30.48kergothThorgard: yeah, its my fault, i neglected the poor druids again
19:30.49Goebpasta- my GL says I need to make a "package" that provides Grid, and preconfigures it for certain classes for decursing... like a mage package that has tiny grid squares (minimal realestate) that only show the color of a debuff, or black if none...
19:30.53pastamancerGoeb: ther's not going to be an easy way unless you send them your saved variables
19:30.56pastamanceroh
19:30.58Thorgardkergoth, QQ
19:30.59kergothself.tickamount = 20 in kEnergy:DruidInit() will fix it
19:31.09ThorgardCool.
19:31.10kergothhad to change the tick amount to 40 while adrenaline rush is up
19:31.13CIA-1703ag * r25293 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
19:31.13CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
19:31.13CIA-17<PROTECTED>
19:31.20Goebpasta- I get phat dkp and special favors for being the guilds grid monkey
19:31.25pastamancerso add a GridWhatever.db.profile.hey_I_already_configured_this
19:31.38CIA-1703pettigrow * r25294 10oRA2/ (Leader/Loot.lua Optional/MainTank.lua): oRA2: frFR Update
19:31.43Goebpasta- that's what I wanted to hear! :)
19:31.50Icerothis tooltip scanning the only way of getting info about spell mana cost? (i'm actually on interested in the last spell that was cast)
19:32.02Goebpasta- how do they load that?
19:32.13kergothIceroth: pretty sure thats the only way.. would be nice if that wasnt the case though
19:32.30Iceroththat's what i was afraid of :-/
19:32.45kergothstill, its not that much work
19:32.45b1f30_w0rkpastamancer: is 13th a mirror? and how can i download all those nice goodies?
19:32.50kergothgratuity + deformat are your friends
19:32.52pastamancerGoeb: make an addon that depends on grid + whatever other grid modules, then in the OnLoad, check each module you want to configure for your flag that indicates it has already been configured
19:33.12CIA-1703ag * r25295 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_GroupClass.lua):
19:33.12CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
19:33.12CIA-17<PROTECTED>
19:33.20Goebpasta- that sounds painless...
19:33.23pastamancerb1f30_w0rk: it's a complete mirror of /files, use it it just like you'd use /files.  update once an hour
19:33.46Amadeohaha, Blizzard patcher...gets to 90%, then "Tracker not responding"
19:33.46kebinusanwoot ty ag
19:34.18pastamancerGoeb: don't forget that you have to call whatever function actually makes the config change happen unless you want to pop up a box at the end saying "Grid configured, please reload"
19:34.42Goebyeah I was thinking of just having them reload
19:35.04pastamancerGoeb: oh, and you'll probably want to have an override so people can reset to your defaults if they fuck up the config after your addon sets it
19:35.19pastamancerGoeb: /omgwtffixgrid very yes
19:35.43Goebheh, I'm gonna use that exact slash command just for you
19:35.48pastamancer:)
19:36.01Funkeh`itemsync on svn?
19:36.12Funkeh`that massive memory hogging mod that died last year? :P
19:36.13pastamancerit'll be memorable
19:36.40Sarozindeed Funkeh`
19:36.50Sarozag`, the frames keep showing up
19:36.57GoebI jsut hope I have time to work on it... without BC distractions ;)
19:37.05Funkeh`you see something more suprising every day
19:37.38ThorgardAmadeo, grab the patch from a mirror? ;P
19:37.48AmadeoThorgard: It finished finally :)
19:38.26b1f30_w0rkpastamancer: sorry dude - i was under the impression that 13th was svn stuff
19:38.30pastamancerbah, I need the 2.0.5 patch to hurry up so I can start bugging people to help me test stacking HoT support in SEEA
19:38.41Funkeh`wtb tbc pst
19:38.44pastamancerb1f30_w0rk: nope, it's /files
19:38.55nevcairieli dunno what you people have with your patch downloads
19:39.06nevcairieli downloaded 2.0.5 in about 1 minute
19:39.13Barbanuspastamancer, US?
19:39.14pastamancertracker not responding
19:39.17pastamancerBarbanus: indeed
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19:39.28nevcairielmy 2.0.5 wasnt even on torrent, it was ingame download :o
19:39.34nevcairielEU wins.
19:39.36Barbanuspastamancer, http://wow.tecnobrat.com/patches/WoW-2.0.4.6314-to-2.0.5.6320-enUS-patch.exe
19:39.45Barbanus3MB
19:39.47pastamancerI hat 2.0.3 ><
19:39.50Barbanusit will go quick
19:39.54trh_if someone needs to 2.0.5 enGB just whisper... 100kb upload =)
19:39.56KoaschtenFunkeh` all i need is the freakin upgrade page to go online ;)
19:40.02pastamancerit's installing now
19:40.12Barbanushaha
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19:40.24pastamancerhaha, the notes for UIFaster are great
19:40.31Barbanuspastamancer, yea
19:40.37AntiarcHeh, boy, does this bring back memories:
19:40.38AntiarcFCKGW
19:40.53BarbanusI love how they totally skipped the UI changes out of the patch notes for 2.0.4 and 2.0.5
19:40.54Tornhoofjust know fckw ;)
19:40.59b1f30_w0rkthe uifaster stuff reminds me of the new old spice commercial 'if you don't have it, then you need it.. etc .etc'
19:41.10nevcairielBarbanus: the UI changes didnt make it in, they are scheduled for 2.0.6
19:41.29KoaschtenAntiarc RHQQ2
19:41.32Koaschtenyour turn ;)
19:41.40Funkeh`itemsync author here?
19:41.47AntiarcYXRKT...I think
19:41.51AntiarcIt's been a few years ;)
19:41.55AmadeoMy WoW fps standing in the same spot in Western Plaguelands: Cedega - 22, Wine - 25, Windows - 42
19:42.02Matrix110derkyle is not here Funkeh`
19:42.03Koaschten8tg6w
19:42.10Antiarc2B7Q8!
19:42.11kergothuifaster?
19:42.19art3misargh!!!!!!!
19:42.22Funkeh`Matrix110: did you stop to think he might be using a different alias?
19:42.26hastekergoth: acceleration for the UI
19:42.27Amadeokergoth: Do I need to use that?
19:42.30KoaschtenAntiarc damn that was oldskewl ;)
19:42.33AntiarcIndeed.
19:42.34Amadeooh
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19:42.39Amadeonevermind :)
19:42.42Matrix110i dont think so!
19:42.47kergothhaste: where 'acceleration' means what?
19:42.51Koaschtenfor the memories -> http://www.infojama.pl/images/news/winxp_corp_devil.jpg
19:43.10b1f30_w0rkKoaschten: lolz
19:43.12hastekergoth: I'm guessing it has something to do with rendering, as it's used to lesser tearing for the people who have it
19:43.15art3miscan any of you think of any reason that my /reply or /r would stop working?
19:43.21Antiarckergoth: I suspect it means using batched polys for the UI rects.
19:44.05AmadeoKoaschten: This was always my favorite - http://www.avmaria.com/images/real_buffering.jpg
19:44.29Koaschtenevil
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19:45.25Chinkukagaro: Could you do me a favor in return for the copy & paste work on Talismonger? Could you please make the new noteshare notifications/checks translatable, i.e. move them to the locals section?
19:45.36Barbanusnevcairiel, seriously? so the raid UI is still fucked?
19:46.05kagaroChinku: sure
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19:46.28CIA-1703derkyle * r25296 10ItemSync/ (. new_itemid_format.txt):
19:46.28CIA-17ItemSync:
19:46.28CIA-17- The happy item gatherer and manipulation toolkit.
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19:47.01kergothis there a good page summarizing all the Config.wtf options and their behaviors?
19:47.26Antiarchttp://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v141/jumaduke/notmykids.jpg
19:47.27Antiarc:O
19:47.35Chinkukagaro: thanks a lot :-)
19:47.37CIA-1703kagaro * r25297 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: added support for Quest items to always fire an event, in the case we dont have a localization the name will be in the current locale
19:48.02kagaroChinku: all quest items will now fire an event even if we dont have translations :)
19:48.15Chinkukagaro: great, thanks.
19:48.36Lysitheaag` you here?
19:48.59ag`yes
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19:49.09Chinkukagaro: just to make sure we're talking about the same thing - quest*giving* items, not quest items (however, might be a good idea to add them as well), right?
19:49.35kagarohmm it should do both I think the type/subtype is Quest in either case
19:50.13Lysitheaag`: Im using ag_UnitFrames r25259 and even though I got "debuff highlightning" disabled it still highlight the frame, done a recent fix for it?
19:50.26[dRaCo]yes, there is.
19:50.26Chinkukagaro: well then cart_quests will probably have to store a list of questgiving items to track... silly solution still, I know.
19:50.33[dRaCo]it's hackish, but there is
19:51.12[dRaCo]gimme a moment
19:51.13ag`Lysithea: I can't remember who was messing around with it
19:51.26kagaroChinku: i think he does already gota find a quest giving item and check the type/subtype on it
19:51.42Lysitheahmm, ok. Abit irritating cause I barely see my hp whenever I get a magic debuff on me
19:52.05[dRaCo]Lysithea: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4137.0
19:52.05nevcairielBarbanus: yes, 2.0.5 was an emergency patch for the UIFaster thing, the UI changes are now for 2.0.6
19:52.09[dRaCo]check that thread
19:52.15[dRaCo]there's a workaround
19:52.19Lysitheaty
19:52.23Lysitheawill look into it
19:52.23[dRaCo]bottom of the first page
19:52.24Barbanusnevcairiel, have you seen when this is supposed to be released?
19:52.43BarbanusI was hoping before TBC :(
19:53.39AntiarcSeeing as BC is in....11 hours and 12 minutes, not likely. :D
19:53.46AntiarcWait, 12:12. >_>
19:53.48AntiarcStupid MST timezone.
19:54.24Lysithea[dRaCo] page wont load for me :/
19:54.29LysitheaI'll try sometime later
19:54.37PogoTribalCan you find TBC boxes in stores now?
19:54.57CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25299 10Prat/modules/channelreordering.lua: Prat: New module - not toc'ed yet. Contributed by SlackerJer
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19:55.10trh_in our guild a few people received it by mail and a few will be in the stores at 00:00
19:55.14[dRaCo]Lysithea, can I query you?
19:55.18Chinkukagaro: my point is that you will never know where you found that quest giving item when you don't start and accept its quest the very moment it dropped.
19:55.20trh_then they start selling (at least in a few stores)
19:55.24[dRaCo]got the answer here.
19:55.25Lysitheasure, But I cant query back
19:55.32Lysitheanot registered yet
19:55.41kagaroChinku: understood.. back shortly ive got a meeting to go
19:55.42[dRaCo]damn, neither do I
19:55.48Chinkukagaro: hf :-)
19:55.48[dRaCo]wait a moment
19:56.00PogoTribalI wonder if Wal-Mart will have it at midnight.
19:56.22trh_give them a ring :)
19:56.29BarbanusEB is goint to for me
19:56.31[dRaCo]Lysithea: http://ace.pastey.net/5130
19:56.35[dRaCo]there it is
19:56.38BarbanusBut I dont know if I want to go pick it up or not
19:56.39Lysitheaty
19:56.48PogoTribalrth: They can barely speak English, let alone read some kind of list.
19:57.13CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r25300 10Prat/Prat-Experiments/ (3 files): Prat-Experiments: la dee dah
19:57.24CIA-1703funkydude * r25301 10ItemSync/ (ItemSync.toc locals/cn.lua): ItemSync: fixed optdeps for standalone lib users, change cn format to utf
19:57.40Sarozargggg
19:58.11art3misPogoTribal: have you ever had any issues with addons that disable your ability to type /reply or /r  for whispers?
19:58.22Gnarfoz*s*
19:58.28Sarozif you have an aceOption called position, it overrides fubar's position menuitem
19:58.29Sarozffs
19:58.57Gnarfozhas anyone got a link to enGB BC installation files (besides the very very slow TPB torrent -.-)
19:59.02PogoTribalart3mis: Prat changes the reply functionality slightly.
19:59.14CIA-1703saroz * r25302 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Rename option because it conflicts with Fubar
19:59.19b1f30_w0rkok - everyone stop using svn so i can download.. .thank you
19:59.26PogoTribalBut in terms of /r, you should still get the last person who whispered you.
19:59.56trh_with VanasReply you also whisper to the person you last whispered to </ad> ;)
20:00.07PogoTribalWhat Prat does is sets the default chat box to wherever yout alked last, so if you're last chat was in a whisper and you press Enter expecting a chat channel, you'll do a misstell. Actually it's quite annoying.
20:00.13kergothhas anyone determined if the beta client will truly be usable on live for those that get cd keys right away via online ordering, or if we'll have to download the release client via a torrent?
20:00.29CIA-1703derkyle * r25303 10ItemSync/update.txt:
20:00.29CIA-17ItemSync:
20:00.30CIA-17- The happy item gatherer and manipulation toolkit.
20:00.32Ominouskergoth: they said its not
20:00.42Barbanuskergoth, you have to download the client
20:00.51Gnarfozbrrr, I just now realized I'll only get a german TBC
20:01.04GnarfozI don't even have a fucking german WOW installed because of the horrible localization :\
20:01.14Barbanuskergoth, from my understanding the current client is missing all of the outlands models, maps, etc
20:01.22Gnarfozneed enGB setup files until tomorrow evening :D
20:01.25[dRaCo]the english language pack works pretty good, Gnarfoz
20:01.31Gnarfoz[dRaCo]: I figure
20:01.35Matrix110Gnarfoz download them:P
20:01.36trh_Gnarfoz: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3596216/The_Burning_Crusade_Windows_Installer http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3595275/World_of_Warcraft__The_Burning_Crusade
20:01.38GnarfozI have a full enGB client since release, though
20:01.42trh_Gnarfoz: if you got a enGB :)
20:01.48GnarfozI'm alreay on those two
20:01.51Gnarfozinstaller is just 1mb
20:01.55SarozWhat castbar are you guys using?
20:02.01trh_Gnarfoz: yeah.. but the isos are biiiiig :)
20:02.01[dRaCo]cbripoff
20:02.01Gnarfozthe other one is reallly slow, though
20:02.20ChinkuSaroz: eCastingBar here.
20:02.27GnarfozI hope speed picks up, I'm that one with a 100mbit line :|
20:02.29SarozoCB is.. meeeh
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20:02.36GnarfozCBRipoff
20:02.38Gnarfoz!;D
20:02.41Dekunai like oCB
20:02.41Sarozwhats the diff
20:02.47Gnarfozno target castbars
20:02.49Gnarfozand stuff
20:02.52Saroztrue
20:02.57CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25304 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat.toc): Prat: Has the addmessage sequenc num stuff, but its not ready for use. Channelrenumbering added to the toc
20:03.01grennongrrrrrr
20:03.03Aenslaedtrh_: which version is that?
20:03.08Sarozbut what's CBRiffoff?
20:03.09GnarfozAenslaed: enGB
20:03.15trh_Aeliel: enGB
20:03.16CIA-1703kergoth * r25305 10kEnergy/addon.lua: kEnergy: druids need a self.tickamount too..
20:03.19GnarfozSaroz: fork of oCB? :>
20:03.21Aenslaedah, thought so :/
20:03.23[dRaCo]it's ocb, still aced.
20:03.23trh_Aenslaed i meant
20:03.41trh_Aenslaed: but i heard you can change realmlist and it works for enUS, but i wouldn't guarantee it
20:04.11Gnarfozhave eu clients ever worked right for US?
20:04.12SarozGnarfoz, uhm, with what changes
20:04.18Aenslaedyeah, not worth screwing around with this. If it doesn't work, i'll have to reinstall the original game which takes like 20 minutes
20:04.32GnarfozSaroz: withOUT the last korean ninja commits that made haste childishly move his addons from this svn
20:04.43DekunaKaelten: is trhe SVN being bombarded again?
20:04.59Sarozhaha
20:04.59hasteGnarfoz: thanks, narrow it down to that
20:05.00Dekunas/trhe/the
20:05.15Gnarfozhaste: whatever
20:05.22Gnarfoz(svn permissions exist, and stuff)
20:05.28Gnarfoz^^
20:05.31b1f30_w0rksvn is currently getting crushed - yes
20:05.31hasteIt's not just the SVN, far from
20:05.41KaeltenDekuna: site in general is
20:05.46Kaelten> 1k connections atm
20:05.48b1f30_w0rkit just took me about 20 minutes to update ace2  lol
20:05.56grennonim beating myself over the head trying to get http://ace.pastey.net/5131 to behave as i think the docs say it should
20:06.25grennondontHook doesnt seem to work when specified, and i can only get an initial opening when mousing over the parent
20:06.51grennonthats basically a minimap coordinate display using tablet
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20:07.20ckknightgrennon: dontHook makes it up to you to show the tablet
20:07.35Finis there a way a function can tell which function called it in Lua?
20:07.37Chinkukagaro: standard question - which file format? utf-8 or 8bit with ascii escape codes?
20:07.46LysitheaPanels I make in eePanels, do I need Visor or something similar to move it around?
20:07.56grennonckknight: yes, but in this case the table:Open gets called, but despite that it doesnt show up
20:08.03grennonckknight: and its still hooked
20:08.17ckknightgrennon: did you detach it?
20:08.28grennonno
20:08.33ckknightthere's your problem.
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20:08.41CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25306 10Prat/modules/channelreordering_.lua: Prat: f
20:09.15grennondonthook doesnt work on attached tooltips?
20:09.29KarlThePaganis there a framework for sortable columns in Ace? like a traditional list-based UI for something similar to CallToArms
20:09.33KarlThePaganTablet?
20:09.45CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25307 10Prat/modules/ (ChannelReordering.lua channelreordering_.lua): Prat:
20:10.00ckknightgrennon: you clearly don't understand what dontHook does
20:10.10ckknightyou can use Tablet for that, KarlThePagan
20:10.24KarlThePagancoo
20:10.44ckknightgrennon: if dontHook isn't set, then when you mouse over the frame, it'll show the tablet. if it is set, then you have to show it manually.
20:10.44grennonboolean - whether the parent frame's OnEnter/OnLeave scripts should not be hooked.
20:11.43ckknightdontHook is specifically for attached tooltips
20:11.43grennoni set that to true, yet it still displays the tablet
20:12.22sylvanaaryou folks with slow WAU should change to another mirror
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20:12.57grennonit still displays it when i mouseover the parent frame i mean
20:13.19ckknightodd
20:13.20Sarozbongos is fucked up -.-
20:13.21ckknightI dunno
20:13.43Tullersaroz: what's broken?
20:14.04Sarozmy "one bag" thing keeps going in top left corner of the screen
20:14.09Sarozthe graphics that is
20:14.25Tullersomething else is taking over the bag then
20:14.37Sarozwasnt a problem in previous version
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20:14.46CrisCrOssTuller is MountMe discontinued?
20:14.57TullerCrisCrOss: I would not know
20:15.11SkorcherXis the aceupdater still at 1.5 or has it been updated?
20:15.13SarozTuller, dont have any other bag mods
20:15.25[dRaCo]there's 1.6
20:15.28CrisCrOssdamn i keep thinknig ur the author
20:15.31TullerSaroz: its not necessarily a bag mod problem
20:15.37CrisCrOssbut ist threa
20:15.42Saroz*sigh*
20:15.50Sarozit was fine pre-2.0
20:15.52TullerSaroz: just anything else that may be interfering with the bottom bar
20:15.58Gnarfoztrh_: *snore* blah, torrent takes it's time :D
20:16.02Gnarfoz*its
20:16.36TullerSaroz: are you using a part of CT mod, by chance?
20:16.36Saroznope
20:16.36grennonvery strange, onenter on the parent frame opened it, and the attached tablet doesnt dissappear unless i mouseover the parent and off the parent again
20:16.36trh_Gnarfoz: i had it running for abt 24hours on my old 1000kbit line =)
20:16.36Sarozcycicled and.. eh thats about it for bars
20:16.37trh_Gnarfoz: i usually got about 60kb/s
20:16.40Gnarfozhttp://thottbot.com/beta?i=5874 < best trash item ever, btw
20:16.45TullerSaroz: what else are you running then?
20:16.46Gnarfozoh
20:16.49evlhttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1168886726036.jpg
20:16.52GnarfozI'm at 350kb/s now
20:16.54Gnarfoz:D
20:17.03[dRaCo]lolz
20:17.05Gnarfoznoes, it's /b/
20:17.05trh_nice =)
20:17.14trh_i now got a faster line... (just since today :)
20:17.40SarozTuller, prat, skinner - nothing major
20:17.52TullerSaroz: try without skinner
20:18.02Sarozk
20:19.30Sarozbrrr, that did it
20:19.33hasteevl: haha
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20:20.15Sarozwtf is skinner doing
20:20.26hasteprobably something retarded, as always
20:20.29Matrix110zomg EU upgrade sites working!
20:20.30AntiarcATTN:
20:20.32evlwhat's he been doing since X-Files went off air?
20:20.33AntiarcYOU ARE NOT PREPARED.
20:20.36Tullerif I had to guess, something
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20:20.42Matrix110https://upgrade.wow-europe.com/expansion/index.html?locale=en_GB
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20:21.17ThorgardMatrix110, bye bye Europe website.
20:21.17Sarozgaaaah, need skinner
20:21.22Matrix110i know:P
20:21.24KinkxSaroz, try quitting the game and log back on without skinner and see if it's still fixed
20:21.35CIA-1703derkyle * r25309 10ItemSync/ItemSync.toc:
20:21.35CIA-17ItemSync:
20:21.35CIA-17- The happy item gatherer and manipulation toolkit.
20:21.42SarozKinkx, it is
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20:23.37KinkxAh okie, probably a different problem then what I had then, I had a problem with one of my bags sometimes displaying ontop of the minimap and sometimes not, ShapeshiftBarFrame:Show(); fixed it though.. some CONTAINER_OFFSET_X issue with Bongos
20:24.00kagaroChinku: utg-8 is fine
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20:25.18AntiarcSo guys
20:25.21*** join/#wowace kovi (n=nnscript@81.209.175.29)
20:25.22AntiarcWhen we all get BC tonight
20:25.25AntiarcAnd try to log in tomorrow
20:25.30AntiarcAnd the servers crash and burn
20:25.42Funkeh`don't feed the conspiracy
20:25.46AntiarcWill you all join me in a letter-writing campaign to Blizzard stating "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!" ?
20:26.24yacoobFunkeh`, but it's not a conspiracy, it's facts :D
20:26.36AntiarcI remember launch week
20:26.37Funkeh`not really
20:26.44Funkeh`you just assume that because of their reputation
20:26.50Funkeh`the server won't even go offline
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20:26.55Funkeh`the most will be lagg
20:26.57AntiarcAnd that was, what, 2.5% of their current subscriber base? If that?
20:27.12Funkeh`if 1000 people go to the same place, yeah it will crash, but they are upgraded now to cope wiht that better
20:27.22CodayusHeh
20:27.27Antiarc"if 1000 people go to the same place" - you mean like Hellfire Peninsula?
20:27.32CodayusI bet we'll see massive crashing.  :)
20:27.43Funkeh`i had about 2000 people at aq event
20:27.44JoshBorkei don't think we'll see crashing of servers
20:27.46Funkeh`low fps
20:27.52Funkeh`and infrequent disconnecting
20:28.04Funkeh`i don't think there wil be more than 2000 there, and they are upgraded now
20:28.17yacoobJoshBorke, I just expect login server dying, nothing more :D
20:28.19Funkeh`outlands is huge remember
20:28.36Chinkukagaro: ok, i'll convert it then, atm it's 8bit
20:28.38AntiarcYeah, and nobody will be anywhere but Hellfire till they level.
20:28.40yacoobTHEY! ARE NOT PREPARED!
20:28.41kagaroChinku: Ill see if it responds to quest giver api
20:28.45trh_Gnarfoz: are you going to go to a mediamarkt at 00:00 to get tbc? ;)
20:28.51Sparhawkeit will definitely crash
20:28.53AntiarcEvery level 60 on my server is going to be fighting for demon and orc spawns.
20:28.55odtdo you guys now that each millionth reload of the upgrade account page will get a free TBC?
20:28.59odtknow*
20:29.01Gnarfoztrh_: none open in Hannover :\
20:29.03yacoobodt, :DDD
20:29.07CodayusHeh
20:29.12Gnarfozwe have 2 and 1 saturn - none of them care :\
20:29.26GnarfozI'll get my bc delivered to my workplace though :>
20:29.31trh_Gnarfoz: i got a friend in bielefeld who will then mail the key to me :)
20:29.33yacoobGnarfoz, they are not prepared...
20:29.42Gnarfozthey indeed are not.
20:29.48SkorcherXhahah
20:29.53Matrix110Blizzard need better load balancers with dynamic capacities!
20:29.55Gnarfoztrh_: nice. :>
20:29.57Koaschtenhmm gildies already upgraded their account, the page is functional
20:29.59yacoobTHEY! ARE NO*cough*cough*cough*...
20:30.07Koaschtenbut you cant get through the portal
20:30.10trh_Gnarfoz: here in bavaria / bawü they don't sell it too.. öffnungszeiten noch nicht freigegeben ;)
20:30.12odtKoaschten: there's a secret link somewhere? :P
20:30.12Matrix110Koaschten welcome to 10minutes ago!
20:30.14CodayusMy first day of class for the spring semester is tomorrow.  :-/
20:30.15yacoobaaaah, it's so hard to make fun of blizz :(
20:30.15GnarfozI'll better get to pushing up my remaining 200 points in herbalism for my first character to get to 70
20:30.21CodayusMy uni hates gamers, apparently.
20:30.23phyberanyone know a link for the new crit formulas?  like, how much crit rating = 1% crit?
20:30.24Gnarfoztrh_: yeah I know, they suffer. :>
20:30.25yacoob<small chipmunk voice> they're not prepared 8) </>
20:30.34odtok, found it
20:30.35trh_Gnarfoz: yeah.. and not only because of stoiber ;)
20:30.39Gnarfozphyber: I know it's in the addon description of RatingBuster on wowi
20:30.51Gnarfozdon't have the link to RatingBuster though, google it and go to wowi :>
20:31.14phyberGnarfoz: cool
20:33.27phyberhmm, maybe the blue post about it would be better.
20:34.07ZealotOnAStickHmm.
20:34.08kergothboored
20:34.09SkorcherXomg this sucks soo bad we are never gonna be able to upgrade our accounts
20:34.13ZealotOnAStickI'm getting some bizarre skinner bug . . .
20:34.16CIA-1703kergoth * r25310 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: clean up tick.lua a little. add a few code comments.
20:34.17ZealotOnAStickNot sure what's causing it.
20:34.20SkorcherXi mean.. midnight hits.. and the masses get there keys...
20:34.23SkorcherXwe are fuct
20:34.27trh_omg.. at about midnight it'll get funny in the us boards if the europeans get to play tbc and the us will have to wait 6 more hours.. i can see the flamethreads :)
20:34.34ZealotOnAStickHmm.  I wonder . . .
20:35.12Koaschtenlol
20:35.18Koaschtenthey took the page offline again :)
20:35.51CIA-1703murazorz * r25311 10ColaMachine/ (ColaMachine.toc Core.lua):
20:35.52CIA-17ColaMachine
20:35.52CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:35.52CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:36.52Gnarfoztrh_: yeah indeed :> "WHY EU FIRST WHY???? QQ QQ QQ" :D
20:37.03ckknightis there gonna be a world event?
20:37.10KoaschtenLess QQ more PewPew !
20:37.13ZealotOnAStickAhah.
20:37.16steinoyes, portal opening event
20:37.18odtckknight: yes, servers are gonna crash and burn
20:37.19ZealotOnAStickIt was the KTM  skin.
20:37.21ZealotOnAStick:/
20:37.23odtworldwide
20:37.24Koaschtennope, you had a week of worldevent ckknight ;)
20:37.26nymbiackknight: no. not any more than there already has been.
20:37.34nymbiaodt: steino: no.
20:37.40ZealotOnAStickAnyone want to see what switching to the new version of KTM did with Skinner trying to skin it?  It's kinda amusing.
20:37.42Gnarfozhe's not 60, perhaps he's not been to blasted lands, yet
20:37.43Gnarfoz;]
20:37.50ckknightyea, I haven't.
20:37.53Koaschtengief screenshoot
20:38.04Gnarfozit's just some mobs perma-respawning at the dark portal
20:38.21Gnarfozand a clone/replacement of lord kazzak, called highlord kruul, has been spawning around the world
20:38.26Gnarfozkind of underwhelming
20:38.50KarlThePagani wished they dropped stuff
20:39.03Gnarfozyou can already farm the 70 mobs in deadwind pass, though
20:39.09Gnarfozthey already drop netherweave and stuff
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20:39.17Gnarfozkind of hard to kill, though, needs a group
20:39.17KarlThePaganyea and epix
20:39.23KarlThePagan<3 epix
20:39.29Goebepix?
20:39.30Gnarfozepix, even, too
20:39.32KarlThePaganyea
20:39.35KarlThePagancrazy shit
20:39.37Goeball I got was greens and netherweave
20:39.41Goebsoloing them
20:39.42Gnarfozsome ppl got a dagger with some crazy proc
20:39.43KarlThePaganlevel 70 world epics
20:39.44ZealotOnAStickhttp://yggdrasil.net/gallery/wow/skinnerwoops.jpg
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20:39.49SkorcherXman the aceupdater is going ungodly slow...
20:39.54trh_Goeb: soloing? you must be a hunter :)
20:40.00Goebshaman
20:40.01nymbiaZealotOnAStick: weird.
20:40.06trh_Goeb: nice
20:40.07SkorcherXhah it sckinned your whole UI
20:40.09Goebrogues in my guild solo them too
20:40.23SkorcherXcheck the size of your skinned bars.. the top bottom and middle
20:40.27ZealotOnAStickYeah, I think it skinned the worldframe.
20:40.39Goebheh, it skinned the world!
20:40.48KoaschtenZealotOnAStick a bit foggy isnt it?
20:40.59AntiarcI'm a rogue and I can solo them with a bit of luck, but it's reaaaaally dicey. They are hard as hell to hit, even with +21% to hit.
20:40.59ZealotOnAStickas the new KTM gui is all done with lua now, no xml, and I think the skinner file isn't updated, and it skinned the worldframe as parent.
20:41.17ZealotOnAStickTook me several minutes to figure out what the heck the problem was.
20:41.24ZealotOnAStickFirst time I logged in, I thought UIFaster did it.  :/
20:41.25Goebbleh
20:41.35Goebupdate skinner ;)
20:41.52ZealotOnAStickMy skinner is current as of about 9 hours ago.
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20:41.59Goebas much as people bitch about skinner... I thought, it's just cosmetic, I'll get rid of it...
20:42.06Goeband I can't STAND the default textures
20:42.17FryGuyjust get aperature then :p
20:42.19Goebso I'm stuck with it ;)
20:42.24trh_Antiarc: didn't tried them with my t2-hunter, but i guess they are manageable :)
20:42.24Icerothaargh.. i have gratuity:SetShapeshift(1) but only gratuity:GetLine(1) returns "Dire Bear Form", GetLine(2) is nil, whyyyyyyyyyyyy
20:42.27Kaeltenhey guys I want to try to stress test the new box real quick just to how bad the apache setup is
20:42.29XuerianAperature?
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20:42.35SkorcherXomg "server is too busy" we are not gonna get o play it till like... next week
20:42.39Goebfly- sales pitch!
20:42.45Goebfly- make us want it!
20:42.47trh_Kaelten: shall we help? :)
20:42.48Goebdooo it
20:42.51AntiarcAlso, it's really weird being crushed by world trash mobs.
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20:43.15SkorcherXyeah that was kinda weird in Beta... runnign around and acuallt having to run from some world mobs
20:43.20Kaeltenk, what I need is for people to navigate the wiki as much as possible, for the next few mins, and let me know what kinda page times you're getting.
20:43.22Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.net/wiki/Main_Page
20:43.22Goebanti- heh, it's like being a noob all over again!
20:43.25SkorcherXactually*
20:43.57AntiarcI pull about 100, 120 DPS on them - I run around 400-600 DPS on Twilights in Silithus.
20:43.57ckknightkagaro: ping
20:43.57SkorcherXbah
20:43.57AntiarcParry! Parry! Miss! Parry! Dodge! Miss! Parry!
20:43.58kagarock: pong
20:44.00Goebanti- gnaa!
20:44.02AntiarcThey're impossible to hit with poison, too.
20:44.09AntiarcThey resist -everything-
20:44.25Goebanti- what level?
20:44.31ckknightkagaro: you have any objections to shipping Carto-Treasure alongside Cartographer itself, like how Herb and Mining have been done
20:44.33Antiarcthe 69/70 mobs in Deadwind
20:44.37[dRaCo]looks ok, kaelten
20:44.39Kaeltenare people hitting the link I posted?
20:44.41SkorcherXyeah i foudn that tanking in BF/ramparts is hard as hell.. nothing but miss/dodge/parry, and i have decent gear.. mostly BWL stuff.  man... oh well.
20:44.44Thorgard"[2007/01/15 14:44:04-105-x1]: Dewdrop-2.0-23612 (DewdropLib):193: Dewdrop20Level4:SetPoint(): Dewdrop20Button42 is dependent on this"
20:44.45ZealotOnAStickand nope, just replaced my KTM file in "SkinMe" from the latest skinner, and it still does it.
20:44.45Goebanti- well yeah, they're 9 levels over you
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20:44.49ThorgardNot sure what I did to get that.
20:44.52AntiarcYeah, just sayin' :P
20:44.53kagarock: nope you might wana add noteshare with it as well
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20:44.59ckknightalright
20:45.12Klazar|workKaelten: YEA ITS FAST!
20:45.12Goebanti- I was a bit underwhelmed... taking on mobs 9 levels higher should be possible
20:45.20Goebshouldn't
20:45.31trh_Kaelten: works fine.. could be better but its ok :)
20:45.35AntiarcWell, I'm also decked out in t2.5/t3
20:45.46AntiarcCombat rogue, so I'm sorta built for that kind of thing.
20:45.49Goebanti- I know, but even then it shouldn't be posible :)
20:45.56Goebanti- but it certainly is
20:46.04AntiarcHeh, it's possible, but damned hard.
20:46.09Goebanti- our t2 rogues can solo them too
20:46.15Goebthat's what makes it fun :)
20:46.22GoebI still havent' got any epics
20:46.24AntiarcIt feels like fighting a raid boss, except solo.
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20:46.28KaeltenI'm getting avg page time of about 1.2 secs on the wiki
20:46.37Goebanti- lotta consumables
20:46.41AntiarcAyup.
20:46.56GoebI can do it as a resto shaman, just takes all day
20:47.08trh_Kaelten: it takes abit longer until the connection is there, but then its fast
20:47.20AntiarcYeah, but resto shammies are harder to kill than paladins.
20:47.36ckknightgetting like dialup speeds from /files/
20:47.38ckknightit's painful
20:47.42Kaeltenckknight: lol
20:47.47Celatushi all
20:47.49trh_Antiarc: solo yes, but in group pvp paladin is the hardest class
20:47.50ZealotOnAStickKaelten: slamming on "random page" and it's fast.
20:47.55Xuerianckknight: That's not normal? ='(
20:48.08Antiarctrh_: Guess it depends on your perspective *grin*
20:48.13Celatus1 germany here ?
20:48.16trh_Antiarc: pretty much :)
20:48.21AntiarcShammies are friggin' impossible to kill unless I get a bunch of Wound procs right up front.
20:48.24trh_Celatus: i guess so
20:48.31AntiarcAnd even then, I have to keep the procs up if they drop a poison cleansing totem.
20:48.46Adirelleoki, does the 2.0.5 patch actually wreck video card ?
20:48.48trh_Antiarc: then you have to hit that totem once and your fine ;)
20:48.56AntiarcBut if I switch targets, I lose my CP.
20:48.57AntiarcActually.
20:49.02AntiarcThat's not true as of 2.0.3.
20:49.05AntiarcI guess I could autoattack the totem.
20:49.13AntiarcHmmm.
20:49.14trh_Antiarc: get that do dmg on 2 targets thing :)
20:49.18trh_Antiarc: forgot the name
20:49.22AntiarcBlade Flurry doesn't hit totems.
20:49.28AntiarcIt counts as an AOE for that purpose. :/
20:49.32trh_it doesn't.. i thought it did :(
20:49.39AntiarcIt hasn't done that since like...1.4
20:49.53trh_ah well.. in a few weeks finally the alliance will face those nasty paladins on a battleground :)
20:49.55CIA-1703grennon * r25312 10Minimalist/Minimalist.lua: Minimalist: -removed onupdate for map coords and switched to a scheduledrepeatingevent
20:50.08AntiarcI look forward to facing paladins on the battleground.
20:50.16Matrix110Paladins arent nasty
20:50.21trh_Antiarc: they are so damn annoying in warsong
20:50.21AntiarcFor every holy healing paladin, there are 19 ret paladins that are all "lawls I am warrior with healz"
20:50.23AmadeoYes they are, lol
20:50.29CIA-1703derkyle * r25313 10ItemSync/ (. ItemSync.toc):
20:50.29CIA-17ItemSync:
20:50.29CIA-17- Modified the toc file for latest version r10001.
20:50.36trh_Antiarc: just 1 druid or warrior + 2 paladins.. unstoppable
20:50.38AntiarcI will curse the 1 healing paladin, and thank the 19 ret paladins for the free honor.
20:50.50Matrix110Paladins are easymode!
20:51.02Goebanti- heh, they're all pretty easy :)
20:51.10Goebanti- unless they come in bunches.
20:51.17Goebbunches of pallys is bad :(
20:51.21AntiarcHeh.
20:51.24AntiarcBunches of ANYTHING is bad.
20:51.27Matrix110retridins can be annoying if they get to stun you and you got no counter ready and they almost 1shot you though
20:51.29Goebtrue
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20:51.39Antiarcret paladins aren't nearly as powerful with 2.0.3 now.
20:51.43trh_Goeb: yeah.. solo they are ok.. except they take ages to kill.. which is bad if they defend flags or get teammates
20:51.47Goebtho, bunches of warriors is fun :)
20:51.52AmadeoI have to figure out how to get more fps out of wine :(
20:51.53_icetrainKaelten: you should really sun some kind of stress test software like Apache Benchmark (ab) so you can really beat the crap out of the machine and see where it starts to go downhill
20:52.15Goebkaelten- ab rocks...
20:52.19bjarvisis there a good wowace way to add chat window filters for my mod?  I'd like the user to be able to control where the messages it generates go.
20:52.25AdirelleJMeter is quite fine too
20:52.45Goebkaelten- use jmeter or ab and hit this http://www.wowace.net/wiki/Special:Random
20:52.52CIA-1703solor * r25314 10Skinner/AddonSkins/XRS.lua: Skinner: fixed XRS skinning
20:52.56Amadeobrb
20:53.33nevcairieli need teh wowwiki
20:53.34nevcairielmeh.
20:53.38AntiarcI am looking forward to making the Horde curse Earthbind in Warsong.
20:53.41AntiarcSeriously.
20:53.46Goebheh
20:53.47AntiarcEarthbind + Ghost Wolf = :(
20:54.02AntiarcOh, hey, I killed the EB totem, but it got a pulse off. Seeya, shammy!
20:54.04Goebhere's a trick for ya... Rockbiter works while in ghost wolf
20:54.08nevcairielIs there a function which will get me all textures of a parent, even tho those textures are not named?
20:54.12Matrix110Antiarc well with the Hunter bug the frost trap is even more annoying atm
20:54.23Sarozfix skinner fucking with bongos
20:54.23Sarozplx
20:54.25AntiarcMatrix110: Indeed - is it still around? I haven't seen it since 2.0.3
20:54.39Matrix110last time i was in WSG it was still ingame
20:54.43Matrix110that was 2.0.3
20:54.47AntiarcHuh.
20:54.51AntiarcI've been lucky then.
20:54.51Finany recommendations for an in-game notepad for general use and Lua testing?
20:54.57Matrix110Tinypad
20:55.03Findoesn't work for me
20:55.07ckknightI'm planning on making a Draenei Priest
20:55.10FinI think cos of the scaling? dunno
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20:55.25ckknightshould be cool
20:55.30Finand, don't suppose anyone knows the answer to my question before:
20:55.30renchapeu bc accounts can be activated
20:55.38Finis there a way for a function to know which function called it?
20:55.42Matrix110renchap welcome to 30minutes ago!
20:55.49ckknightFin: yep, by trolling debugstack()
20:55.51renchapsorry :p
20:55.57Kaelten_icetrain: didn't know that existed thanks :)
20:56.06KinkxMatrix110 welcome to "right now" in renchap time
20:56.07Finckknight: thanks, I'll go read about it
20:56.36Xandag` > Are you there?
20:56.38Matrix110i dont like renchap time :-(
20:56.40Adirelleckknight: is there a debugstack() parser ?
20:56.41KinkxHehe ^^
20:56.53kagaroanyone know hoe to get if an item starts a quest without parsing the tooltip ?
20:56.56ckknightAdirelle: use :find
20:56.59ckknightthat's how I do it
20:57.07Matrix110what is wondering me is that the upgrade page is still working normally its down after 3mins orso..
20:57.07Adirelleerf
20:57.43Adirelleckknight: I was thinking of a profiling addon that could hook on any ace2 addon
20:58.19Adirelleckknight: goal is too allow to hook any method and seen how many times is it called, which time it takes and memory it eats
20:58.38Adirelle(tho separating overhead of the profiler itself can be tricky)
20:58.49Adirelleand parsing the debugstack could give interesting data
20:58.50XuerianIsn't that pretty much what LuaProfiler does? >.>
20:58.57ckknightit's doable
20:59.02ckknightafter all, I've done it
20:59.06ckknightcheck out FuBar_DebugFu
20:59.09CIA-1703kagaro * r25315 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: cleaned up the quest item detection (DRYCODE)
20:59.12Adirellewell.. lol, didn't noticed it :)
20:59.12Silviu-sylvanaar, ping
20:59.54Silviu-A    Prat\modules\ChannelReordering.lua
20:59.54Silviu-A    Prat\modules\channelreordering.lua
20:59.56Adirelle(tho I was quite surprised anyone thought about it before)
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21:00.52Adirelleer... is dev.wowace.com supposed to be hammered ?
21:01.01XandAnyone else getting the issue with AGuf where debuff highlighting will not turn off even when unchecked?
21:01.11[dRaCo]yeah
21:01.19Gnarfoztrh_: 1MB/s now :> seems I will be able to install tonight, and play when I get home with my copy from work
21:01.20[dRaCo]and there's a hackish fix
21:01.23Gnarfoz(tomorrow)
21:01.24[dRaCo]lemme get it for you
21:01.29Thorgard...
21:01.31ThorgardGah.
21:01.31trh_Gnarfoz: nice :)
21:01.42ThorgardeePanels is making me cry. :/ It's not saving my panels.
21:01.47Matrix110it is
21:01.48[dRaCo]Xand: http://ace.pastey.net/5130
21:01.55trh_Gnarfoz: i'm only waiting for the friend giving the keys at abt 00:30am =)
21:02.17Gnarfozheh
21:02.19Gnarfozlucky you ^^
21:03.00yacoobGnarfoz, but surely the content wont be gone in 24hours... :)
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21:04.12Silviu-Anyone have that link for that torrent extractor from bliz downloader ? :/
21:04.17trh_Gnarfoz: lol, the wow-europe.com site changed to a traffic-protection minimal-site :)
21:04.35Gnarfozdon't care, just go to https://upgrade.wow-europe.com/expansion/
21:04.41Gnarfozit's already ready & waiting :>
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21:05.11BarbanusKaelten, did you get your new box yet? :)
21:05.27ThorgardHmm,, "[2007/01/15 15:02:38-107-x1]: eePanels-1.0\core.lua:867: attempt to call method 'SetAllPoints' (a nil value)"
21:05.49Matrix110Silviu- you can get all torrents now in the cache folder no need to extract anymore
21:06.16XuerianSilviu-: a.wirebrain.de/wow has the torrents
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21:06.25ThorgardXuerian!
21:06.26XuerianOr well, from the cache folder.
21:06.29ZealotOnAStickMatrix110: that wasn't the case for me.
21:06.33XuerianThorgard: Aye?
21:07.01ZealotOnAStickThe background downloader ones, yes, the 2.0.5 patch one, no.
21:07.01Matrix110Oo
21:07.01GnarfozSilviu-: google for 'wowtorrentex', should be on wow.capnbry.net
21:07.01Matrix1102.0.5 is like 2MB
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21:07.05Silviu-Thank u :)
21:07.13ThorgardXuerian, I tested XLootMonitor again and it doesn't open those itemlink windows when you click on the item in the XLM frame. :/
21:07.18_icetrainpatchitbaby.com works wonders to
21:07.25trh_Gnarfoz: nice.. :)
21:07.37trh_Gnarfoz: a guildy already got the key.. i'll let him try it :)
21:07.44XuerianThorgard: It handles links just like anything else, as far as I'm aware. You have to have the chat entry open to link something. I suppose I could force it to open it first.
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21:08.24ThorgardXuerian, well, the chat-linking works all fine and dandy, I'm just looking for that 'window' with the item info in you get when you click on a link you've gotten in the chat.
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21:08.30XuerianThe tooltip?
21:08.33ThorgardYeah.
21:08.35XuerianComes up on hover.
21:08.45XuerianOr should..
21:09.03ThorgardYeah, but I want to be able to click the item and have the tooltip on my screen too. ;P
21:09.13XuerianOh.
21:09.14ThorgardLike a chat-linked item.
21:09.26Icerothoh, how nasty... cvar "UberTooltips" affects tooltip scanning as well
21:09.35Adirellegaaaah. can't get TSVN to update Baggins, 0 bytes/s :(
21:09.42XuerianIceroth: What'sit do otherwise?
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21:10.03XuerianThorgard: I'll look into it.
21:10.10Iceroththere's a checkbox in interface options to show detailed tooltips
21:10.25Icerothi was pulling my hair out because my shapeshift tooltip scanning returned only 1 line
21:10.40Iceroth= not-ubertooltip
21:10.50XuerianI wonder if that's what's causing gratuity to have hernias.
21:10.59ThorgardXuerian, cool. ;) Thanks. Now the only thing missing that'd make XLM god-like would be the ability to 'mouse-scroll' through the list of looted items when you hover over the anchor, or somesuch. ;P
21:11.13XuerianThorgard: I've thought about that, but that promises to be painful
21:11.25ThorgardXuerian, yeah, I can imagine. ;)
21:11.28IcerothSetCVar("UberTooltips", 1) before scanning any tooltips and when you are done, return it to what the user originally had, seems to work
21:11.49XuerianGratuity itself should do that
21:12.00Icerothdoesn't seem to be the case
21:12.06Icerothor i'm not using it properly
21:12.07XuerianWell yeah... hm
21:12.17XuerianI mean should as in ought to, not should as in should already :|
21:12.25Icerothah :)
21:12.42Silviu-How is the svn command to checkout a file to a specific revision
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21:13.51Icerothwhere does Tekkub want the lib related reports?
21:14.02nymbiaSilviu-: svn co url@rev
21:14.04XuerianY'know what I want? The ability to upgrade my account to BC for like, 15$, 20$, or even 25$, online. Going out and picking up a whole new material box holds no interest to me.
21:14.19Silviu-nymbia <3
21:14.35Benumbedisnt there a site that sells keys?
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21:14.43GnarfozXuerian: then add 'downloading some gigs of stuff' to the first part of your list and your request makes sense
21:14.44Gnarfoz:>
21:14.50XuerianIs there?
21:14.56Benumbedthere "was"
21:15.13Benumbedbought a key like a year ago for another account
21:15.19Gnarfozdon't think blizzard would like that very much - they barely let the companies handling account management in other countries like asia do that
21:15.20nymbiafor full price of the game box.
21:15.35XuerianGnarfoz: There's gigs of new content in BC that wasn't included in 0.1/0.3/0.5? Well damn.
21:15.39Benumbedyeah it was like same price as box, maybe a tad more
21:15.44Gnarfozthere is, it seems :>
21:15.48XuerianEgh
21:15.52renchapBenumbed: 2.85go of content
21:15.52XuerianWhy do that, though?
21:15.56XuerianBloody helll
21:15.57GnarfozgB
21:15.59Gnarfozthere is no fucking Os :D
21:16.00renchapmy wow folder is 7go now
21:16.06renchapgB
21:16.08renchapsorry ^^
21:16.09GnarfozxD
21:16.23BenumbedI download 20gb a day, that extra 2 wont hurt me =P
21:16.24GnarfozI should probably be more tolerant
21:16.41ckknightXuerian: my plan is to collect $15 and buy from gamersloot.net
21:16.43Xuerian~whalestab Benumbed
21:16.45purlACTION stabs Benumbed with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
21:16.47Gnarfozbut... I'm irritated by the fact I can't get BC tonight :D
21:17.01Xuerianckknight: o.0... <Goes to>
21:17.06Chompersdamn blizzard
21:17.10BenumbedI will have mine when brother in law tells me he got shipment
21:17.13ckknightI got a card from there, so handy
21:17.19art3mishrm found a "bug" in prat
21:17.27Benumbedthen he will ring up after midnight so "looks" like he sold it then
21:17.30art3mismaybe its a wow bug
21:17.31ckknightpaid directly from paypal, 10 minutes later, they sent me a picture of the card
21:17.33Chompersaccount upgraded...and i cant go through the portal for another hour and a half
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21:17.40ckknightno needing to go to a store or anything crappy like that
21:17.42ckknightwas great
21:17.52ThorgardEesh..
21:17.58ckknightso I'll just buy my TBC from there as well, I think
21:18.02ThorgardIs there any other mods that do what eePanels do?
21:18.10SkorcherXim stoked for the midnight release
21:18.11Xuerian54$?
21:18.16SkorcherXim really looking forward to meeting people inline
21:18.18art3misthor
21:18.29XuerianIt's just a expansion.... geeez
21:18.29SkorcherXsee who in my area are fans
21:18.30art3misthe only way to fix eepanels is to wipe yer wtf dir and start from scratch
21:18.46SkorcherXmy gamestop said they had a minimum of 700 copies to hand out
21:18.47art3mistheres a conflict somewhere in there that makes em not load
21:18.58Wing87does any one know a workaround this bug? -> http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=115611893&sid=1
21:19.00Benumbedheard on news that its expected to be more crazy than when wii/ps3 was released =x
21:19.03Thorgardart3mis, -all- of WTF? Not just the saved eePanels.lua?
21:19.17vhaarr~seen toadkiller
21:19.38purltoadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-178-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 9h 42m 43s ago, saying: 'well in that case jsut cut & paste it'.
21:19.38SkorcherXi mean...
21:19.38SkorcherXI should wear a name tag with my mains name guild and server...
21:19.40Benumbedlol?
21:20.23art3misThorgard: yeah i had the ame problem, there's a conflict somewhere in there
21:20.27ckknighthrm, $54 is like $15 more than Amazon
21:20.28ckknightblah.
21:20.30ThorgardGah. :/
21:20.41Gnarfozamazon rocks =]
21:20.41art3misyeah on the plus side you get to redo yer ui and make it better ;P
21:20.44ThorgardI'm not wiping all my UI settings for eePanels. :(
21:20.50SkorcherXi can gurantee there will be like 200 kids chanter "For The Horde!"
21:20.50Thorgardart3mis, I just did! ;P
21:20.56art3misheh yeah me too
21:20.57ThorgardThen eePanels starts wigging out. :/
21:21.40Barbanusckknight, you still need to install TBC stuff, so you will have to download it somehow
21:21.49_icetrainckknight: gamersloot added $10 for a TBC since this afternoon :)
21:21.55Benumbedbleh, just loaded 1723 mp3's into musicstream...menu if off the top of my screen =\
21:21.56_icetrainquick cash
21:22.02Gnarfozwoot, torrents ftw.
21:22.04ckknightmakes sense.
21:22.07Gnarfozgot my engb client install stuff :>
21:22.14vhaarr~seen derkyle
21:22.24purli haven't seen 'derkyle', vhaarr
21:22.24vhaarrHis commit messages suck balls.
21:22.30vhaarrgrr
21:22.34ckknightthat's why I have to collect $25 now instead of $15
21:22.36KaeltenI just invited him to join us
21:22.41ckknightblah
21:22.54kebinusanvhaarr: it seems mrplow doesnt plow the bank when you select the bank plow options, no errors it just plows your bags instead
21:23.04kagarodo we have the word Quest localized in babble somewhere?
21:23.08nymbiackknight: you could just run out and snag it at midnight
21:23.10kagaro"Quest" even
21:23.15vhaarrkebinusan: Yeah, so I heard, but Wobin said he would fix it, so I've just ignored it.
21:23.22kebinusanah k
21:23.22kagaroor is ther e aglobal string for it already ?
21:23.23ckknightnymbia: I don't have a car or license
21:23.28nymbiackknight: damn.
21:23.36ckknightwell, the license is the important part
21:23.47ckknightI took the test last Tuesday but the guy failed me
21:23.54ckknightbut it's okay: he was a douchebag
21:23.55Benumbedsteal a bicycle?
21:23.56SkorcherXis there a ace2 "quest levels" addon?
21:24.12ckknightBenumbed: I actually have a really nice bike, but meh.
21:24.17ckknightSkorcherX: QuestsFu
21:24.27Gnarfozwhat did he fail you for?
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21:24.35SkorcherXckknight: does it put the numbers in the quest log?
21:24.41Gnarfozdon't know much about US (was US, right?) traffic laws
21:24.46ckknightGnarfoz: going too fast, being a teenage male, etc.
21:24.56ckknightthey always fail teenage males once
21:24.59ckknightyes, SkorcherX
21:25.00nymbialevel 70 forum icons are pretty badass.. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/iconinfo.html?amp;sid=1
21:25.25BenumbedI failed my paper test on 1st time =x
21:25.26Gnarfozckknight: it'll be going too fast, ;D
21:25.35kergothhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070114093427179 is interesting
21:25.36ckknightGnarfoz: I went 20 mph in a 10 mph road
21:25.38XuerianEh, you have no bragging rights unless you fail learners permit twice
21:25.43ckknightthere is no reason that road should've been 10 mph.
21:25.44Thorgardart3mis, commenting out two lines of code and my eePanels are back and showing. Yay.
21:25.50Gnarfozso? that's about... 100% too fast
21:25.51Gnarfoz:D
21:25.52CIA-1703docbru * r25316 10GuildMap/Astrolabe/Astrolabe.lua:
21:25.52CIA-17GuildMap:
21:25.52CIA-17- Fixed Astrolabe hopefully to not conflict with Cartographer instance and battleground maps anymore
21:25.52Benumbedlol, didnt do that
21:26.09Benumbedits hard to idle at 10 mph
21:26.14Benumbedmore less drive it
21:26.24Benumbednever understood 5mph roads
21:26.27|Kev|there used to be a mod which would remove the icons from chat windows, and allow wheel scrolling - does anyone know the name of such a thing, if it still exists, please?
21:26.28Benumbedjust cant do it
21:26.36Codayus|Kev|: Prat does that.
21:26.43KemayoYeah, my car does about 10mph while idling on a flat in first.
21:26.53Codayus(And more, but the design is modular.)
21:26.57|Kev|will Prat do many other things that I won't want it to? or is it easy?
21:27.09XuerianKev: Try idChatLegacy
21:27.19Kemayo|Kev|: Prat will make julienne fries.  But you can turn most of it off.
21:27.35CodayusPrat does things you didn't even realize you wanted a mod to do...  :-)
21:27.38|Kev|ok, thanks :)
21:28.02Barbanus|Kev|, its modular, so you just turn off the crap you dont want
21:28.12kergothckknight: check out that article on groklaw.. according to their interpretation, bsd could have more issues than i thought.. makes me glad i use MIT for stuff i dont care about going proprietary
21:28.29Worfhmm - any idea if one can play TBC with the beta client? or does one really need to install the thing from the box?
21:28.52SoLoRag` raid frame bars doesnt scale properly if you set width less then certain number (at least not in ouf): http://freeweb.siol.net/mih06jan/WoWScrnShot_011507_213750.jpg
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21:29.04CodayusWorf: You can, kinda...  Check out http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3363
21:29.12nymbiaWorf: the beta client can be upgraded to a retail install, but doing so is 'unsupported', ie its not their fault if it breaks.  just change your realmlist.wtf
21:29.19kagaroanyone know of a way to get the tooltip text for an itemLink without it being clicked? i.e. LOOT_OPEN event firs and you run through the loot
21:29.39nymbiakagaro: set it to an invisible tooltip
21:29.47CodayusOh, sorry, that's instructions on how to *install* the beta so you can do that.  If you already have the beta installed, its easier.
21:29.48BarbanusWorf, you need to install the discs
21:30.01Xueriankagaro: EIther do it yourself, or use Gratuity.
21:30.08WorfCodayus: thanks - reading...
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21:30.20kagaronymbia: you got some sample code handy? im at work and wowwiki is down
21:30.33BarbanusWorf, if you have the discs, I would just install them.... safer ...
21:30.37nymbiagratuity's not in such good shape at the moment, it needs updated for the new tooltipping stuff.
21:30.59Xueriannymbia: Is that why it's tossing nil right text errors at me >.>
21:31.10Finis there someone here who can admin the wowace google group?
21:31.10nymbiakagaro: look in uh.... lets see.. sniff or grindstatus or carto's instanceloot module or PT2 or PT3Browser.
21:31.13Finthere's a gold seller spam posted
21:31.20nymbiakagaro: i think i used the same code for all of those, lol
21:31.24WorfI asked because i allready have the beta client installed and i don't feel like searching my old install cd's, install them, patch them up to current, install TBC and then get the language pack when i allready have everything installed in the language i want :)
21:31.31Mikmawhy does baggins prevent me from opening bank?
21:31.39kagaronymbia: thanks I have carto instanceloot code here on my external drive
21:31.49nymbiakagaro: :)
21:32.13BarbanusWorf, you don't have the retail version of wow installed right now?
21:32.26Adirellemikma: in which way ?
21:32.45WorfBarbanus: no - well - yes - well - i have the client from the open beta.. the english one... the CD's are still in the box since 2 years
21:33.07kergothls
21:33.13MikmaAdirelle: in way i can't open bank with baggins enabled
21:33.13kergothbah
21:33.24BarbanusWorf, heh, if it is patched to at least 2.0.1, it'll do :P
21:33.36nymbiakagaro: all those do is set the tooltip for purposes of fetching data from the server for that item, but you shouldnt have any problems parsing that tooltip afterward.
21:33.41AdirelleMikma: the normal bag opens but not the bank ?
21:33.53AdirelleMikma : by normal I meant baggins' one
21:34.01MikmaAdirelle: only baggins' bags open, no bank
21:34.09kagaroyeah I just need to see if it has the ITEM_BEGINS_QUEST line
21:34.37ckknighthttp://www.whitestkids.com.nyud.net:8090/video2/wegonmakelove2.mov <-- this is good
21:34.44AdirelleMikma: i'll check that
21:35.26Thorgardevl, ping
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21:35.36evlThorgard: pong
21:35.51Thorgardevl, tell me you saved that image you linked a while ago. ;P
21:35.56WorfBarbanus: main problem is the language - i did prefer the english version in the past, and since the "we localise everything"-army started to translate eaven City Names i defenitely won't play that game in german
21:36.02evlThorgard: i didn't :(
21:36.09Thorgardevl, argh. :(
21:37.10GnarfozWorf: get the install files for engb BC
21:37.17Gnarfozthey are on piratebay ;]
21:37.31CIA-1703sylvanaar * r25317 10Prat/modules/channelreordering.lua: Prat: diaf
21:38.08PogoTribalYou can't wait for 15 minutes for TBC to install from disc?
21:38.14trh_"in case of emergency" - very funny tv-series :)
21:38.38trh_PogoTribal: we do only get the deDE here in germany
21:38.47trh_PogoTribal: and alot player want to play with enGB
21:38.48Gnarfozyea.
21:39.04Gnarfozwhich they can, with the European Language Pack (ELP)
21:39.06Gnarfozbut
21:39.17Worfbut it's a pain
21:39.18Gnarfozwe've been playing the enGB version longer than that one exists
21:39.19PogoTribalSo you want the English UK version?
21:39.20Gnarfozthat, too
21:39.22Sarozwho maintains skinner?
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21:39.36trh_PogoTribal: correct.. the german localisation just sucks
21:39.38nymbiaSaroz: jncl i think
21:39.44Gnarfozyea, enGB TBC setup discs is what most people want, if they're asking at all
21:39.51Wing87is there any way to do a unlimited loop and not haning the client?
21:39.57GnarfozELP users will simply continue using it, but we're using normal enGB clients ;)
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21:40.21nymbiaWing87: an infinite loop will always hang the client.  why would you need one?
21:41.09AdirelleMikma: what profile and skin are you using ? (any error ?)
21:41.19Adirellemikma: got no trouble here
21:41.29MikmaAdirelle: "Default"
21:41.37Adirelleboth ?
21:41.40MikmaAdirelle: and no skin, couldn't find it :D
21:41.48Sarozwhy the fuck is skinner moving my bag frame
21:42.09BarbanusUK gets the game in like 2 hours doesnt it?
21:42.11Adirellethere should be a "Bag Skin" menu just before "Edit bags"
21:42.18Wing87nymbia: well im trying to write a mod that monitors what a buff gives and when CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS fires and the buff that fires is Gift of the Wild the stats arent added its like the code is run befor the buff is acualy added.. >.< so a loop until i gain the buff would be nice but atm i just starting hanging the client (=
21:42.38AdirelleMikma: I cant't reproduce the error, did you tried with no other addon ?
21:42.51Wing87is there no command like the DoEvents from vb? ^_
21:43.06GnarfozBarbanus: EU get's it in exactly 1 hour and 17 minutes
21:43.12nymbiaWing87: dont use the chat message, use UNIT_AURA
21:43.24bnovcdid most of you guys preorder for $40 online somewhere?
21:43.35BarbanusGnarfoz, excited? :P
21:43.59GnarfozBarbanus: no, no damn store has one of those 'special midnight openings' in my town >_>
21:44.08MikmaAdirelle: yes bank opens when baggins ain't enabled
21:44.10bnovcGnarfoz: walmart?
21:44.11GnarfozI'm getting mine from amazon tomorrow
21:44.15Gnarfozbnovc: germany? :>
21:44.21bnovcaren't they international?
21:44.24Adirellemikma: I meant with baggins only
21:44.25Gnarfozok, there's some very few walmarts here, too
21:44.25nymbiaGnarfoz: walmart anyway! ;)
21:44.26trh_bnovc: wal mart isn't successfull in germany
21:44.26BarbanusGnarfoz, ahh
21:44.33MikmaAdirelle: haven't tested
21:44.35Adirellemikma: just to check it ain't another addon that interfere
21:44.36trh_bnovc: i heard they sold all their remaining markets
21:44.44Gnarfozthey came too late
21:44.49Wing87nymbia: "UNIT_AURA" dose not tell me what buff was added or? arg1
21:44.49Wing87the UnitID of the entity
21:44.53bnovcdoes TBC put a serial into your account so you can't share it?
21:44.53Gnarfozthat market is already saturated with local companies
21:45.08trh_Gnarfoz: yeah.. and had a too hard concurrence with aldi, plus, lidl
21:45.11Adirellehmm... is there any 'blue bag' name in baggins tooltip where you're talking to the bank NPC ?
21:45.14Gnarfozreal, extra, etc
21:45.14Gnarfoz:>
21:45.17nymbiawalmart's gonna be a hellhole at midnight...  i preordered mine but we still need to get my girlfriend's copy somewhere.. not really looking forward to that
21:45.21trh_Gnarfoz: and so on ;)
21:45.31AmadeoWalmart is open at midnight for it? wow
21:45.33Barbanusbnovc, huh? ... you put the cd-key into your account to activate the TBC content .. if thats what you mean
21:45.37nymbiaAmadeo: 24 hr ;)
21:45.41Amadeohah
21:45.49bnovci hate blizzard for making TBC
21:45.55Amadeonymbia: Call some GameStops around you, I walked into one today and reserved a copy
21:46.12Gnarfozanyway, I can't fathom why, in a town that hosts the world's largest computer fair once a year and the world's largest industrial fair once a year - no damn store has one of these openings, when even some quite smaller towns have them :D
21:46.12bnovcAmadeo: walmart is open 24/7
21:46.28trh_bnovc: must be nice to have a 24/7 supermarket
21:46.37bnovci guess
21:46.39GnarfozI hope we'll have that, sooner rather then later
21:46.50nymbiaWing87: check how other buff handling mods do it.  maybe take a look at buffalo.
21:46.58bnovci'm thinking about just giving up on endgame content cause i'm angry that blizzard effectively forces you to buy TBC
21:47.01Amadeobnovc: Some :(
21:47.05trh_Gnarfoz: well i don't care for the time between 00:00 and 06:00
21:47.12nymbiaWing87: worst case, instead of looping til you see the buff, use ScheduleRepeatingEvent
21:47.14Gnarfozthat was one of the things I liked most when I was to the US on one of those pupil exchange thingys for 4 weels "?
21:47.19Amadeo24 hour grocery stores are the best
21:47.20AdirelleMikma: is there any blue (aka bank) bag listed in baggins tooltip where you're talking to the bank NPC ?
21:47.32Gnarfoztrh_: that time is the most important one for me :D
21:47.38trh_Gnarfoz: lol
21:47.52Gnarfozif I had work that fit my natural sleeping rythm
21:48.16trh_Gnarfoz: well i got to go to university sometimes, so that time is usually sleep.. at least 3-10 or sth.
21:48.21GnarfozI'd be getting up at 8pm and going to bed at 1pm :D
21:48.39AmadeoWhat stores directly compete with Walmart? (Grocery and all)
21:48.42AmadeoJust Target?
21:48.46bnovctarget
21:48.48PogoTribalbnovc: People have been playing the same endgame content for a year now.
21:49.03XuerianTarget, KMart in some areas
21:49.04bnovcPogoTribal: so add new content but don't raise the cap to 70
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21:49.24FryGuypogo: wasn't naxx released in july?
21:49.27bnovci dont want to pay $40 to be lvl 70
21:49.28Amadeohm
21:49.39Gnarfoz_arrgh
21:49.45Gnarfoz_damn blizzard downloader killed my connection >_>
21:49.51Stephmwhow?
21:49.57Wing87nymbia: where can i find buffalo? ^_^ cant find it at google or wowinterface
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21:50.05Goebbnovc- don't be so miserly, $40 for how many thousands of hours of entertainment ?
21:50.13Xuerianwowace.com/files
21:50.17Gnarfoz_saturated upload = no ACK packets for my standing connections (like IRC) come through anymore
21:50.25nymbiaWing87: what Xuerian said ;)
21:50.29PogoTribalFryGuy: Naxx hasn't been experienced by 90% of the playerbase.
21:50.33Gnarfoz_I probably should configure some sort of traffic shaping on my router, it's a PC running linux anyway, should be easy to do :\
21:50.48Wing87tnx
21:50.50StephmwGnarfoz_: weird - mine never exceeds 10kb/s up
21:50.51PogoTribalNaxx doesn't count, THAT was BLizzard's worst mistake, developing Naxx.
21:50.51trh_Gnarfoz: its not
21:50.52FryGuyso?
21:50.56XuerianGoeb: $40 initial cost. $15/mo for those hours, not counting $x/hour you loose in productivity and time doing things that really matter.
21:51.03FryGuywhat are you talking about
21:51.07trh_Gnarfoz: i'd say working traffic shaping is the hardest thing to configure on a router
21:51.09FryGuynaxx is the best instance blizzard has released
21:51.14Goebxuerian- don't you dispell my illusions!
21:51.15Gnarfoz_yuck.
21:51.19Aenslaednaxx was a great instance
21:51.27PogoTribalPLayed by 10% of the playerbase.
21:51.27bnovcGoeb: sure, if i wasnt paying monthly for that content that i'm also paying $40 for
21:51.27Aenslaedthey just needed to give guilds more time
21:51.27Gnarfoz_I just want priorisation of outgoing ACK packets
21:51.27Gnarfoz_:D
21:51.42Goebit's still a steal
21:52.03XuerianGoeb: I wouldn't complain if it were like EVE, and they give you updates to content you already pay for
21:52.05Goebif you play only 5 hours a week... $15/mo is nothing compared to say... a movie... or cable tv
21:52.14trh_bnovc: you could play lineage2, there you get those content-patches for free, but leveling to max-level will take you a year of at least 6h playing each day
21:52.16Gnarfoz_actually, I'm not so sure at times - my entire DSL connection drops when this happens
21:52.20FryGuy5 hours a *month*
21:52.34bnovctrh_: takes me a really long time to level in wow anyway
21:52.40bnovctrh_: i dont have 8hr/day like most people
21:52.56PogoTribalWhy should they add more level 60 content? So the gap between new 60s and established 60s can become even more imbalanced?
21:53.00Goebxuerian- err.  we do get updates to content without paying... MC, BWL, AQ20, ZG, AQ40, NAXX were all added later... battlegrounds, pvp rewards...
21:53.06FryGuyit took me ~70 hours or so to level to 70
21:53.06trh_bnovc: what i wanted to say is, that leveling in wow is pretty fast and easy, compared to other mmorpg
21:53.20Xuerians/updates/expansions/
21:53.24bnovcPogoTribal: does it matter if the gap is between 60s with gear or 60s and 70s?
21:53.30PogoTribalYes.
21:53.31trh_FryGuy: but you got more xp on the testserver than you'll on live
21:53.34bnovcwhy?
21:53.35FryGuyno
21:53.35Goebfry- how intense was that?  all grinding or?
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21:53.50FryGuyi played in the time when it was same exp as it will be in live
21:53.51AenslaedGoeb: the grind to 70 isn't bad at all
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21:54.02sysrageis there a wowace mirror i can use with the wowaceupdater? default one is slow as friggin molasses
21:54.03FryGuyit was all questing. i did 3 instances total
21:54.04AenslaedGoeb: did it in a RL week on beta.
21:54.04Goebaens- just curious :)
21:54.05bnovcits 400k xp just for lvl 61 :(
21:54.07PogoTribalBecause casual 60s without epics can still hit 70 to compete.
21:54.15bnovcFryGuy: you got into the beta?
21:54.17Goebbeta was sped up tho...
21:54.20PogoTribalAnd you're forgetting that easily obtained PvP rewards are a VERY recent development.
21:54.24Aenslaedit wasn't sped up
21:54.28FryGuyand i spent maybe an hour grinding some mobs for rep
21:54.28nymbiaGoeb: "<FryGuy> i played in the time when it was same exp as it will be in live"
21:54.34FryGuyyes i played live
21:54.34bnovcPogoTribal: easily as in weeks and weeks of 8hr/day BGs
21:54.36SkorcherXyeah beta was hell afast
21:54.39FryGuyin the last push
21:54.44SkorcherXguys were getting 2 levels a day
21:54.50SoLoRsysrage try http://svn1.wowace.com/files/
21:54.50FryGuy*after* they removed the sped up leveling
21:54.52Aenslaedhow was it sped up? The exp you earned from killing things was equal to what you earned in the live game. 500ish exp to kill an equal level mob.
21:55.02sysragesolor: tyvm
21:55.05FryGuy500xp per mob, 10k for quests
21:55.08FryGuyroughly
21:55.09nymbiaSkorcherX: early beta was.  late beta was not.
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21:55.31PogoTribalWeeks and weeks is better than months and months of grinding for Rank 14.
21:55.31FryGuyer i meant i played beta in the last push
21:55.36SkorcherXOMG that is soo much faster
21:55.38Goebso 70 hours... even the slowest levelers will be 70 in a month or 2
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21:55.56bnovcPogoTribal: you don't get that its relative - i dont care if i dont have rank14 items if most others dont also
21:56.09FryGuywith full rest xp.. i doubt it'll take that many hours.. probably 50
21:56.10PogoTribalWhat would you suggest they do at level 60? Add content that rewards gear even better than Naxx?
21:56.18Goeband many will be 70 in a couple weeks (damn, I should retire early ;)
21:56.18PogoTribalYeah, most others already have Tier 1/2/3
21:56.39bnovcPogoTribal: thats fine with me - or just add activities
21:56.47FryGuytier 1 is what quest rewards give you in hellfire penninsula
21:56.50bnovcthings like fishing competitions, but something more enjoyable
21:57.06PogoTribalPeople don't want activites.
21:57.10PogoTribalThey want more powerful characters.
21:57.20PogoTribalThey want new skills.
21:57.30Goeband... to be honest, they want imbalanced characters... they want to have an edge over others.
21:57.34kaidenSoLoR, THANKS! :P
21:57.52sysrageheck ya. much thanks solor.. billion times faster
21:57.54Goebthey want their time invested to mean they can do something others can't... or for others to fear the awesome power tool of justice
21:58.15Goebhopefully blizzard has done that, with some sense of balance applied...
21:58.28Goebinstead of just the current lvl 60 situation all over again at 70
21:58.29FryGuythere's tons to do in bc from what I can tell
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21:58.53[dRaCo]even getting to mount hyjal will take like decades
21:59.04Goebthey better get their ass in gear for the next expansion tho... 6 months from now BC will be dried up and old ;)
21:59.18kaidenso the store i bought my copies of TBC from is having a block party tonight
21:59.23kaidento celebrate it's release :P
21:59.46Goebthe parties for TBC are more scary than the wii and ps3 parties were ;)
22:00.06PogoTribalDid someone earlier mention Wal-Mart will have TBC at midnight?
22:00.07kaidenwhich is surprising since you would think people would be just playing the game instead
22:00.09CrisCrOss-j The Phantom Legion
22:00.15kaidenPogoTribal, wal-mart already has it on the shelves
22:00.19kaidenand is selling it
22:00.30PogoTribalOh... shit.
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22:00.40CrisCrOssis it still on sale or sold out
22:00.45Goebyes, walmart is supposed to have a half pallet for each store and they're not supposed to put them on the shelves til midnight... but they don't listen well ;)
22:00.59kaidenthey never have
22:01.01SkorcherXyeah walmart is full of tards
22:01.05nymbiaman, it was too fucking cold when i waited in line for a wii, and that was two months ago.  i'll sleep in and wait til the fedex guy gets here, thanks ;)
22:01.09SkorcherXand they're blue smocks
22:01.10kaidenthey sold WoW the original 2 days early
22:01.11kaiden:p
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22:01.18Goeband I bless every waltard for giving me TBC early ;)
22:01.22SkorcherXhahaha
22:01.35Ominous__waa, 2.05 whats in it?
22:01.41nymbiaOminous: nothin
22:01.47SkorcherXyeah our lows righ now are 18 degrees
22:01.49Goebthat ui acceleration thingiy
22:01.54SkorcherXthank god i get to wait inside a mall tonight
22:01.55Goeb-i
22:02.02Ominous__what is that Goeb?
22:02.09CrisCrOsswait is it only released to US tomoro
22:02.11CrisCrOssor world wide
22:02.14kaidenso what exactly did this UI Accelerator do that they added?
22:02.22Goebomni- not a big deal, it's splained in the patchnotes
22:02.26Ominous__oki
22:02.33nymbiaSkorcherX: it's sunny and warm at 15 fahrenheit right now. ;)
22:02.33[dRaCo]screw up things, as always
22:02.41XuerianI don't believe they added it, per-se. Only a option to disable it.
22:02.44Thorgardkaiden, check the patch notes.
22:02.44Ominous__TBC is released world wide tomorrow, ie 2hrs for us UK peeps
22:02.45Goebthey added ui acceleration in 2.0.something and some people had issues... so they added the option to turn it off in 2.0.5
22:02.52CrisCrOssits -5 celsius
22:02.58kaidenThorgard, i did but it doesn't appear to speed anything up :P
22:03.02Goebyeah it's cold... I ain't waitin' outside
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22:03.25CrisCrOsscan i buy it tomoro?
22:03.31Adirellemikma: do you still have trouble with baggins and bank ?
22:03.34Goebomin- I can't type omin...
22:03.41MikmaAdirelle: haven't checked
22:03.47Adirelleoki
22:03.51GoebI have to slow down and retype it like 9 times, it always comes out omni
22:03.51Ominous__Goeb: what?
22:03.52kaidenno criscross, canada has banned TBC
22:03.55kaidenyou wont be able to buy it
22:04.04kaiden:P
22:04.07Goebblame canada
22:04.13SkorcherXha i bet this chan will go dead silent at  midnight onight
22:04.33Goebno, it'll be full of people bitching about "I'm 6172 in queue!"
22:04.34BarbanusCrisCrOss, where do you live?
22:04.35kaideni'm going to bed here in a bit so i can stay up all night leveling my draenei shaman
22:04.42trh_SkorcherX: don't think so.. too many different timezones
22:04.46CrisCrOssBarbanus: Richmond Hill Ontario
22:04.53GoebI'm gonna go to walmart and see if they have any left ;)
22:05.00CrisCrOssi don't think that many people actually play it in this area.. (i hope not)
22:05.05SkorcherXyeah im fuct.. westcoast we get it last
22:05.10nymbiai was under the impression that they were gonna flip on all the US servers at midnight pacific
22:05.17AntiarcYup.
22:05.26AntiarcOfficial launch date is 12:00 AM PST
22:05.33SkorcherXnoice!
22:05.33*** join/#wowace cladhaire_ (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-58-241-33.twcny.res.rr.com)
22:05.53taleforum thread says pretty clearly EST
22:05.58BarbanusAntiarc, not true, 12 EST
22:06.04taleblue post
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22:06.18[1]Ominoussigh im not even on a registerd username now :/
22:06.50CrisCrOssquick question how does one get registred in this channel?
22:06.59Ominous-KillIntebah there is a name limit
22:07.36AntiarcOh. I am wrong!
22:07.36CrisCrOssNot the first time Antiarc :P
22:07.38AntiarcHuh, could have sworn it was PST.
22:07.38Antiarc*shrug*
22:07.44kaidenAntiarc, it usually is always PST
22:07.53kaidensince Blizzards in Cali
22:08.30snurreCET ftw :op
22:08.31Mikmanew servers are open
22:08.37XuerianWhoever wanted sticky tooltips for XLoot, thar she blows.
22:08.38CIA-1703xuerian * r25319 10XLoot/XLootRowTools.lua: XLoot: Added Toggle-able tooltips to rows (Group and Monitor) on left click. Uses existing Hyperlink static tooltip method.
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22:09.40XuerianThorgard: I think it was you.
22:09.57ThorgardXuerian, you can't prove a thing!
22:10.18XuerianThorgard: Rats. Foiled again!
22:10.57yacoobbut you would suceed if it wasn't for those meddling kids!
22:11.15Ominous_1wee my G15 is comming tomorrow
22:11.18XuerianIndeed.
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22:12.27XuerianSigh. Now I'm never going to make it out of stormwind.... >_>
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22:14.11nee-lapHow would I change the font used in ag_Unitframes? Can I override it using some setting in say.. Clearfont2 or evl_Fonts? I use the latter.
22:14.30evlnee-lap: simlpy change the layout :)
22:14.44evlnee-lap: I can send you mine if you want.
22:15.17Kaeltenwhich is better 1 larget memcached server or two smaller ones?
22:15.22Ominousohh nice option... i had that problem it was a pain constantly deleting the cache
22:15.27Ominousin 2.05
22:15.30ckknighteveryone, I have an announcement: PHP sucks ass.
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22:15.41Xuerianckknight: AMEN
22:15.41AntiarcI'm going to guess 2 smaller ones, Kaelten
22:15.44Dranoryou're not telling me nothing new
22:15.46trh_Kaelten: depends on your cpu
22:15.54AntiarcTwo processors > one processor for large numbers of concurrent connections, generally.
22:16.02Xuerianckknight: well except for some parts of arrays, but otherwise AMEN!
22:16.13AntiarcPHP's not all bad.
22:16.26Kaeltentrh_: dual core 4200+ amd 64
22:16.30ckknighttrue, I'm sure it's probably 5% good or so
22:16.30FinPHP rules, OK?
22:16.31Kirkburn|afknee-lap, you have to do it in the agUF addon
22:16.32XuerianIt's so unwieldy after lua =\
22:16.34ckknightthus making it not "all bad"
22:16.35Dranorit could be better
22:16.37trh_Kaelten: 2 smaller ones, or even more
22:16.46Kirkburn|afkI would suggest replacing the default agUF font with your own choice
22:17.01kaidenCalibri the font of LOVEEEEE
22:17.01Kaeltentrh_: even on the same machine?
22:17.02kaiden;p
22:17.10kaideni use it for everything now because of kirkburn
22:17.27trh_Kaelten: yes, b/c with one process the cpus won't be used as they could with 2
22:17.46CIA-1703funkydude 07Bosses * r25320 10BigWigs/: BigWigs: created folder
22:17.49Antiarctrh_: On the same machine, won't the CPU load be on the process accessing memcached?
22:18.07AntiarcIf it's the same machine, my gut says one large server.
22:18.08Kaeltenwell its also on the same machine as the webserver
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22:18.45AntiarcIf you do two memcached processes, you have to worry about crossover
22:19.09KaeltenAntiarc: hrm, don't they do peer caching though?
22:19.11trh_Antiarc: well the overhead for managing different processes and threads is pretty low
22:19.33trh_Antiarc: the nice thing with more processes is that one could be swapped from one cpu to the other one
22:19.37JoshBorkeAndalia: ping
22:19.38kergothckknight: does the 'map' option in aceoptions work for type='text',validate={} style options?  if not, it might be worth considering.  it would be nice to present translated strings to the user when selecting them in dewdrop, rather than having to pick the non-localized versions (though yes, they'd have to choose the non-localized text in aceconsole...)
22:19.48kergothckknight: just throwing it out there as a possibility
22:20.04ckknightvalidate = { ["Monkey"] = "Affe" }
22:20.05Antiarctrh_: That I'll agree with. I'm just thinking that you won't have a lot of CPU time spent in memcached anyway, so why try to optimize it for two CPUs when the majority of the CPU time will be in the webserver?
22:20.22kergothckknight: oh! i didnt realize that was valid :) cool
22:20.25sylvanaarwhat ckk said
22:20.26kergothckknight: thanks :)
22:20.30ckknight\yep.
22:20.30sylvanaarprat does that
22:20.31nee-lapthanks evl
22:20.37kergothnifty.
22:20.46AntiarcKaelten: I'd recommend just benchmarking it if possible ;)
22:20.48trh_Antiarc: would be a matter of trying it out, but i still think 2 processes are better.. esp with the integrated memory controller an amd cpus and such
22:20.52KaeltenI've got one setup with 128 mb and its doing pretty well speeding up page times on the forums.
22:21.05Barbanusckknight, I thought you said you didnt play wow, but you are getting the XP?
22:21.14Kaeltenbut mysqld is still a bottleneck for performance
22:21.18sylvanaarso you can look at prats code if you want examples
22:21.20ckknightBarbanus: how else will I code with it?
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22:21.24BarbanusKaelten, how close is the new server to being up? :)
22:21.27AntiarcKaelten: It might be worth considering maintaining separate processes, one for the wiki, one for the forums, etc
22:21.44KaeltenAntiarc: I've thought about that
22:21.45AntiarcThat way you could "restart" one part of the site (flush the cache) without dumping the other parts.
22:21.46CIA-1703funkydude 07Bosses * r25321 10BigWigs/Pre-TBC-Kazzak.lua: BigWigs: tag kazzak mod
22:21.50Barbanusckknight, so you just have wow to code? Interesting hobby :)
22:22.01ckknightpretty much
22:22.02AntiarcI would especially recommend forums vs everything else, since the forums are far more dynamic.
22:22.13AntiarcYou want your wiki pages to have a longer cache life than forum pages
22:22.20KaeltenBarbanus: hard to say exactly, but its coming along :)
22:22.21nee-lapgoing to try it now. I'm not sure what it does, but I'll soon find out
22:22.24ckknightalso, I don't think it's that far off to expect my users to pay for TBC for me ;-)
22:22.25JoshBorkeyou should just drop the forums feature ;-)
22:22.30JoshBorkeand the wiki ;-D
22:22.31BarbanusKaelten, awesome :)
22:22.33AntiarcNoooo, I love the forums ;_;
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22:22.41sylvanaarckknight: is there a way to give aceconsole a separate options table?
22:22.54ckknightsylvanaar: no idea what you mean by that
22:23.14sylvanaarfubar->table1 aceconsole->table2
22:23.16nee-laper, evl, why did you send me this? Perhaps you confused me with someone else from the forums asking for your layout?
22:23.23Barbanusthe forums won't really need caching "THAT" much, not as much as the wiki anyways
22:23.24ckknightsylvanaar: nothing stopping you
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22:23.41trh_Kaelten: there's a mysql benchmark suite with whom you can check out how much different configurations work out
22:23.44AntiarcI'd argue the forums need caching desperately. Forum software is a monster resource hog
22:24.01AntiarcThe sheer number of DB hits on any one page is staggering. Heh.
22:24.19evlnee-lap: you asked <nee-lap> How would I change the font used in ag_Unitframes? Can I override it using some setting in say.. Clearfont2 or evl_Fonts? I use the
22:24.21KaeltenAntiarc: smf doesn't play well with squid
22:24.25evlAnd I told you.
22:24.28Kaeltenbut it does work with memcached
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22:24.48sylvanaarckknight: lack of knowledge is stopping me
22:24.57AntiarcHow's memcached being used? Query result caching?
22:25.02AntiarcOr page caching?
22:25.02nee-lapoh
22:25.07nee-lapHm.
22:25.26nee-lapI'll open up the files you shared then, perhaps you left a clue in there.
22:25.26SarozWhy is skinner doing
22:25.27Sarozself:moveObject(MainMenuBarBackpackButton, nil, nil, "+", 4)
22:25.29BarbanusAntiarc, well I just looked at the view / reply ratio, and yea, I would agree with you after looking at it :)
22:25.30Sarozmakes no sense
22:25.37sylvanaarckknight: where does aceconsole get its options tables from. i dont provide them explicitly
22:25.53nee-lapah yes, found it. thanks
22:25.53ckknightif you don't provide it, then it doesn't use it
22:25.55ckknightsimple as that
22:25.58Caimanhi guys, just a quick question, i've notices an aggro alert using only ace addons even on bgs, do you know what addon could be playing that sound ?
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22:26.03ckknightyou have to explicitly register
22:26.11CIA-1703funkydude * r25322 10BigWigs/Other/ (Kazzak.lua Other.toc):
22:26.11CIA-17BigWigs: Other:
22:26.11CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:26.11CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:26.11CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:26.13GagorianCaiman: BanzaiAlert
22:26.32AntiarcBarbanus: If you cache query responses and then invalidate them on a post, delete, or edit, you can cut out a ton of DB load, even in a high-traffic forum, since you only have to actually hit the database once-per-change.
22:26.33Saroz:p
22:26.36Caimanmm i will check it, cannot remember if i installed it
22:26.52Caimanah yes, thanks gagorian
22:26.59ArrowmasterFunkeh`: and with a new name!
22:27.04AntiarcWell, twice. Once for the change query, one select to cache it.
22:27.14Funkeh`indeed
22:27.31CIA-1703funkydude * r25323 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: this too
22:27.44BarbanusAntiarc, yea, I thought the forums were way more replys / edits to views .. but I am wrong ... its like 10,000 views for 200 replies, which definately would improve performance with caching
22:27.56AntiarcIndeed :)
22:27.58sylvanaarckknight: how, ihave never registered with aceconsole only fubarplugin at the most
22:28.01BarbanusSome forums are like 200 view for 100 replies, well, that doesnt change much with caching
22:28.19ckknightsylvanaar: then you don't have an accompanying slash command.
22:28.31CIA-1703kergoth * r25324 10kEnergy/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
22:28.31CIA-17kEnergy: (drycode)
22:28.32CIA-17* Add bar text option for combo points and energy, and add the max energy to
22:28.32CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:28.32CIA-17* Localize the validate tables for 'bartext' and 'shown'.
22:28.32CIA-17* Update ChangeLog & Release History
22:28.34CIA-17* Minor code layout cleanup.
22:28.40CIA-1703funkydude * r25325 10BigWigs/BWL/Nefarian.lua: BigWigs: BWL/Nefarian: bar to go with landing
22:29.01nee-lapIs there a way to put an ag_UF layout in a separate dir, so that it's not removed when updating ag_UnitFrames using WAU?
22:29.05sylvanaarckknight: hm guess i wasnt thinking
22:29.16AntiarcKaelten: The forums are noticably...performant, given that there was a patch today.
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22:29.50BarbanusAntiarc, there wasnt a toc update was there?
22:29.55AntiarcDunno
22:29.59AntiarcBut people slam WAU on patch days.
22:30.01Tekkubso now the *burning* question.... *grin*
22:30.06BarbanusI don't believe so
22:30.15Tekkubthere a torrent of the install disc ISO out yet?
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22:30.21AntiarcHeh
22:30.22Funkeh`yes
22:30.26Tekkublink!
22:30.32Funkeh`but it was saying 9 days to download
22:30.36kergothWarning: mysql_pconnect(): Too many connections in /home/bzctoons/mirrors/ftp.gamersloot.net/gamer1/www/www/www2/db_mysql.php on line 106
22:30.37Funkeh`so i thought fuck it
22:30.38ArrowmasterenGB only as far as ive seen
22:30.39kergothhehe
22:30.41Funkeh`getting it tomorow morning
22:30.47JoshBorkeAntiarc definitely sounds like he knows what he's doing
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22:30.50Funkeh`im just impatient :p
22:31.06SarozAnyone ever looked at skinner?
22:31.20kergothSaroz: unfortunately
22:31.23Funkeh`define looked :P
22:31.28Sarozself:moveObject(MainMenuBarBackpackButton, nil, nil, "+", 4)
22:31.30SarozWHY?
22:31.36kergothhahah
22:31.46sylvanaarwhat about the updater for tbc
22:32.05SarozWHY IS IT DOING THAT
22:32.15BarbanusTekkub, what locale?
22:32.26TekkubenUSsucks
22:32.36Caimansaroz, are u around ?
22:32.51SoLoRSaroz function Skinner:moveObject(objName, xAdj, xDiff, yAdj, yDiff, relTo)
22:32.53SoLoR!
22:32.57SarozCairenn, ya
22:33.09vhaarrCaiman, not Cairenn.
22:33.09BarbanusenGB = http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3595275/World_of_Warcraft__The_Burning_Crusade
22:33.10CairennSaroz: ?
22:33.11SarozSoLoR, self.db.profile.MainMenuBar = false, gogo
22:33.11Cairennheh
22:33.20SarozCairenn, mis-autocomplete
22:33.24SarozCaiman, sup
22:33.26Cairennno worries
22:33.30vhaarrBarbanus: So, if I'm getting my key in the e-mail, I'm going to need that torrent?
22:33.36CIA-1703trh * r25326 10VanasKoS/ (. VanasKoS.toc): VanasKoS: external added
22:33.40Caimani'm wondering if u could implent a feature on sRaidFrames
22:33.47Sarozmaybe
22:33.48Arrowmasteronly if you use enGB
22:33.51Caimani don't know if it's  possible or not
22:33.55Sarozshoot
22:34.10Caimanit's just make an option to show / hide all groups / classes
22:34.19JoshBorkewahahahaha! i figured out why i couldn't change my password! woot!
22:34.22Caimanwithout having to check /uncheck one by one
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22:34.35Arrowmasteralthough that torrent is half broken and doesnt have a windows installer on it
22:34.35Barbanusvhaarr, if you are enGB, yep, you will :)
22:34.43vhaarrBarbanus: Not http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3596480/World_of_Warcraft__The_Burning_Crusade_(enGB_Windows_Mac_Client ?
22:34.44SarozCairenn, you can check which ones you want displayed, yes
22:34.54JoshBorke...
22:35.01SarozCairenn, argg sry
22:35.05Cairennlol
22:35.07Caimani know saroz, but i "hate" having to check group 1, then 2, 3, 4 ,etc
22:35.13Sarozstupid mIRC
22:35.18trh_is there an option to get a sorted output from acedb?
22:35.30Caimanit will be easy if i could check only a global option to show /hide all
22:35.41Sarozthere is, key bindings
22:35.42Saroz:p
22:35.42Caimanhope i explain it clear
22:53.25Caimanmmmm will check that
22:53.25Barbanusvhaarr, oh, I don't know. The one i linked was linked from the worldofraids.com site, I don't know which is better :)
22:53.30vhaarrBarbanus: But you've verified personally that the one you linked works fine on EU?
22:54.12Barbanusvhaarr, no, I haven't. But I know someone who downloaded it .. he didnt say he had any issues ...
22:54.21vhaarrokay
22:54.38trh_vhaarr: i did, but i used the links: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3596216/The_Burning_Crusade_Windows_Installer http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3595275/World_of_Warcraft__The_Burning_Crusade
22:54.45vhaarrTwo torrents?
22:54.57vhaarrThis is confusing, I'll just download the one I found.
22:54.57trh_vhaarr: yes, one is .iso files, you have to extract the .mpqs out of them
22:55.23MikmaAdirelle: Hide default bank [X] ...
22:55.30trh_vhaarr: and the other one is just a 1.5mb installer
22:55.30vhaarrokay
22:55.34MikmaAdirelle: that option wasn't there on my version and still the bank was hidden :D
22:55.42Arrowmastervhaarr: or you can use http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3596480/World_of_Warcraft__The_Burning_Crusade_(enGB_Windows_Mac_Client
22:56.08trh_vhaarr: then you have .mpq files + installer in one directory and can update your wow
22:56.16vhaarrAccording to the comments on http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3596480/World_of_Warcraft__The_Burning_Crusade_(enGB_Windows_Mac_Client it should work fine.
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22:56.30vhaarrArrowmaster: Indeed.
22:56.32Funkeh`lol
22:56.32Funkeh`decursive 2.0
22:56.32Adirellemikma: hmm... something broken with option menu maybe
22:56.32Funkeh`ace'd
22:56.33trh_vhaarr: probably the other link is the same just compiled together
22:56.33vhaarrtrh_: O
22:56.34MikmaAdirelle: now it's there... don't worry :)
22:56.39vhaarrtrh_: It's a DVD rip.
22:56.47MikmaAdirelle: it wasn't there before but now it is because i updated it
22:57.09Adirellemikma: btw, if the option wasn't here, it shoudn't hide the bank...
22:57.14AdirelleMikma: weird
22:57.18MikmaAdirelle: it did :)
22:57.29Barbanus20 mins till UK servers up?
22:57.43Mikmaup? my servers are up :P
22:57.54Silviu-Mine too
22:58.04Barbanusno, 1:20 I guess :P
22:58.07Silviu-o.O
22:58.16Dranormy server went nuts
22:58.22Adirellenice, EU-Ner'zhul down, too many people in front of the gate...
22:58.29BarbanusWell I mean .. unlocked, or are they already?
22:58.41Dranorbut i don't care since i don't have a key
22:58.45trh_Adirelle: sounds a bit like the AQ opening event ;)
22:58.51Silviu-don`t know i fly there now
22:59.00Silviu-:)
22:59.00Adirelletrh_: right
22:59.02XuerianAre there invasions going on pre-bc-opening?
22:59.21Adirelletrh_: first TF crafted did so too, cause the guild that crafted it invited all the realm to see the fight
22:59.31CIA-1703funkydude * r25327 10BigWigs/Other/Kazzak.lua: BigWigs: Other/Kazzak: lets just remove it completely for just now, save zip space \o/
22:59.32trh_Adirelle: same on our realm.. except 2 or 3 guilds crafted it and invited :)
22:59.33trh_Adirelle: so the server crashed 2 times at 3 in the morning
22:59.34Adirelletrh_: :)
23:10.53Adirelletrh_: well, for one TF, 2 or 3 crashs
23:10.54trh_Adirelle: but after that it was fine.. we went bashing for the ring reputation in that event
23:10.54trh_Adirelle: when the people woke up and got online the event was over
23:10.54trh_Adirelle: we had the rings and they were pissed :)
23:10.54Arrowmasterfighting eranikus with half the server in moonglade was the best imho
23:10.54CIA-1703kergoth * r25328 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: math.abs is our friend
23:10.55AntiarcI have -never- seen lag like Eranikus-in-Moonglade.
23:10.55AntiarcTruly epic.
23:10.55trh_Antiarc: i did.. on that moonglade event with that strange firework stuff to summon a beast
23:10.55trh_Antiarc: can't remember the name
23:10.55Arrowmasteromen
23:10.55trh_right!
23:10.55Arrowmasterand that didnt lag at all for us
23:10.56trh_that was it
23:10.56AntiarcIt wasn't anywhere near that bad for Omen as it was for Eranikus
23:10.56NeoTronhmm weren't there for the AQ40 gate opening event?
23:10.56AntiarcWe had...four Alliance raiding guilds and 2 Horde raiding guilds in Moonglade for it.
23:10.56AntiarcEach with 40-80 people per guild.
23:10.57trh_nice =)
23:10.57AntiarcIt was insane.
23:10.57Antiarc30, 45 second action lag
23:10.57Antiarcsix server crashes in 20 minutes.
23:10.57EnalungRha this is enraging! The store where I reserved my copy of BC won't be open at midnight!
23:10.58kenlyricmonstrous!
23:10.58kergothEnalung: :(
23:10.58kenlyricyou won't be able to wait at the loading screen for hours. Those bastards!
23:10.58trh_Enalung: get it at a different store (if you didn't gave money to them)
23:10.58*** part/#wowace berdan (i=d@y.campus.luth.se)
23:10.58EnalungIt's a no can do, beign in a small city there's only so many game stores...
23:10.58Arrowmasterwe had the top horde guild who was doing the quest and the top alliance guild who wasnt doing the quest both in moonglade directing everybody else on what to do, we had all horde in one building and all alliance in another for the shades
23:10.58trh_kenlyric: i do only hope the upgrade your account site will work when i get my key at 00:30
23:10.59kenlyrictrh_: your optimism is adorable.
23:10.59AntiarcI hope they have load balanced the hell out of the upgrade site.
23:10.59kenlyricI will be nestled comfortably in my bed.
23:10.59trh_kenlyric: well, they changed the wow-europe site to a low bandwidth static page
23:10.59trh_kenlyric: guess they try to be prepared
23:10.59kenlyricnow, everyone try not to level to 70 before I wake up. LOL>
23:10.59AntiarcLike, I'm hoping they have a Google-quality cluster of machines for it.
23:10.59yacoobhaha :D
23:11.00yacoobseen the annoucement?
23:11.00Antiarctrh_: They are not prepared!
23:11.00yacoobyou need to relog in order to enable tbc :DDDD
23:11.00trh_kenlyric: but in the EU not so many stores are open at 00:00 pm, so it may work at 00:30
23:11.00EnalungMidnight won't be too bad, 8 in the mornign you'll get the second batch of incomming, and at 6 supper time tomorow.... woops, everyone getting uot of work, getting online
23:11.00AntiarcHahahah
23:11.00AntiarcThat's going to be -insane-
23:11.01Dranorhm...
23:11.01Enalung6 tomorow just will be dam near impossible to log in
23:11.01AntiarcI am going to beeline for Hellfire Citadel and camp out there for a few days.
23:11.01yacoobthat's why it's so futile having your tbc :DD
23:11.01yacoobnow.
23:11.01trh_waiting for TBC is somehow like waiting for christmas toys as a kid ;)
23:11.01Dranorget ready to level up inside of hellfire ramparts
23:11.42kenlyricaccording to stats, my server has the lowest pop from 7 to 8 am, so I might see what I can do then. otherwise, yeah, maybe this weekend :)
23:11.42EnalungWell, I know where to go
23:11.42yacoobtrh_, come on... :D
23:11.42Dranorthat's the only place you're not going to be bothered
23:11.42EnalungSo I can get ahead of the mass like that
23:11.42trh_yacoob: i said somehow :)
23:11.42trh_yacoob: i'm not running nervously through the house ;)
23:11.42yacoobtrh_, christmas toys do not bring anguish and pain :DDD
23:11.43EnalungYour not???
23:11.43EnalungMy!
23:11.43ThorgardAurrr. Is there a torrent for the enUS BC installation somewhere?
23:11.43trh_yacoob: and they do not steal your RL ;)
23:11.43Antiarc*kid opens Nintendo Wii for Christmas*
23:11.43Antiarc*hooks it up to TV*
23:11.43kenlyricEnalung: eveyrone else knows were to go, too.
23:11.43Antiarc*turns it on*
23:11.44trh_Antiarc: well.. christmas toys when we were kids :)
23:11.44yacoobI suggest /topic THEY ARE NOT PREPARED!
23:11.44EnalungNo, I mean as in I've done all those quests already.
23:11.44yacoob8)
23:11.44Antiarc"There is a queue to play Nintendo Wii. You are 16501283. Estimated wait time: ############NAN"
23:11.44Funkeh`lol
23:11.44trh_lol
23:11.44EnalungYeah, was a beta tester...
23:11.45trh_my roomie got one a few days ago.. its really a nice piece of equipment :)
23:11.45bnovcThorgard: how would it help if you dont have a key
23:11.45*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | Yes the sites borked, yes it will get better, no its not better yet. You are not prepared!
23:11.45Thorgardbnovc, it would allow me to install it now instead of later.
23:11.45EnalungWhen he does get the key he dosen't have to load the CD
23:11.45EnalungThat's how it would help
23:11.45Dranordid they change the 10 blue capes that you get with instance quest?
23:11.45EnalungAka get online a bit faster
23:11.45bnovcThorgard: unless it requires key to install too
23:11.46yacoobckknight, thanks :DDD
23:11.46JoshBorkeyou can do it!
23:11.46Dranorit doesn't
23:11.46Thorgardbnovc, yes, but if we're assuming that there's always something to stop me it won't help. I'm so sorry, you're completely right. ;P
23:11.46Kirkburn|afk10 mins until EU opening here too (pasting to all channels is fun!)
23:11.46bnovcThorgard: there isnt one on torrents or usenet yet afaik
23:11.47EnalungAnyways, any good tutorial to states? I'm gettign lost in teh SecureState.lua and SecureStateHeader.lua
23:11.47bnovcanyone know any place that its cheapear than $40 to buy a key?
23:11.47trh_in germany they sell the box for 25eur at some places :)
23:11.48EnalungI paid my copy 57 CAN
23:11.48bnovcare there any places that sell keys w/o boxes
23:11.48bnovcfor cheaper
23:11.48EnalungYou won't get keys without box
23:11.48EnalungJust as you didn't get keys with the original wow on their own
23:11.48bnovcjust thought it'd be nice :(
23:11.48bnovccause i dont wanna have 2 boxes
23:11.48trh_well there are some online key stores
23:11.48trh_least i heard about
23:11.49*** join/#wowace Tovort (i=patrick@xdsl-213-196-250-248.netcologne.de)
23:11.49trh_someone here in the channel ordered his key there.. but i can't recall the nick
23:11.49nymbiathey open the box and send you your key.
23:11.49trh_ya.. but who cares? :)
23:11.49yacoobor open your box and do not send you the key.
23:11.49trh_costs the same as without the box but w/e
23:11.49EnalungLast I remembered blizzard never actualy sold any keys online
23:11.50ckknighthttp://gamersloot.net/ is legit
23:11.50Benumbedbizzard doesnt have to sell em
23:12.12yacoobKhadgar folks just massdisconnected.
23:12.12yacoobTHEY WERE NOT PREPARED!
23:12.14Chinku*g*
23:12.14AntiarcThis is going to be a great catch line for the next...oh, 72 hours or so.
23:12.14KarlThePaganI seem to remember an XP bar that has a giant bar stretching across the border of a FuBar panel... which mod is that?
23:12.15AntiarcFu_NOT_PREPARED!
23:12.15AntiarcSrsly though, no idea. >_>
23:12.15KarlThePaganbur
23:12.16yacoob"Hey baby, nice shoes, aren't you prepared?"
23:12.16QuetziFubar_XPFu
23:12.16KarlThePaganthx
23:12.17KarlThePaganFuBar_FuXPFu
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23:12.17KarlThePaganKemayo, ping
23:12.17Adirelletrying to get to the portal with the rest of my guild
23:12.17mkzwosomeone familar with agunitframes?
23:12.18Adirelleolol, kicked off the server
23:12.18vhaarrMagtheridon EU down as well.
23:12.18kergothmkzwo: i'm gonna take a wild guess and say ag is
23:12.18kenlyricadirelle, our dark portal barely has anyone at it.
23:12.18kenlyricoh, wait, I forget.
23:12.18Adirelleit's 0:00 here
23:12.18kenlyricyeah, I just got that :)
23:12.18Adirelle(CET)
23:12.19Funkeh`Arathor lagging like fuck
23:12.19kenlyricso, are they prepared?
23:12.19Adirelledunno
23:12.19Antiarc*specs prep*
23:12.19yacoobthey resetted every server?
23:12.19Antiarc<PROTECTED>
23:12.19kov`you alliance or horde vhaar? i'm on magtheridon, too :>
23:12.19AntiarcI am prepared!
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23:12.19Funkeh`gonna go to blasted lands and tag pvp
23:12.19kenlyricwhat is that.. german time?
23:12.20mkzwo@kergoth ahh - just joined this # ^^
23:12.20kenlyricUTC +1?
23:12.20Adirellebut WE were prepared, we knew the server would went down a couple of times
23:12.20kenlyricyou were able to upgrade your account no problem?
23:12.20trh_kenlyric: its: 00:00 in germany NOW
23:12.20AntiarcI am dreading the hell out of Cenarion Circle. We had a 500+ queue the other night. ;_;
23:12.20Adirellekenlyric: CET = UTC+1
23:12.21yacoobomg omg omg!
23:12.22[dRaCo]noch, 40 secs ago ;þ
23:12.22yacoob*dies*
23:12.22AmadeoAntiarc: I'm dreading the hell out of the PvP and inability to do any quests
23:12.22Gnarfoz_central european time ;)
23:12.22KarlThePaganeuro servers get TBC now?
23:12.22Gnarfoz_my server is still fine
23:12.22zombiooboooooooo.
23:12.22KarlThePaganor tomorrow?
23:12.23Gnarfoz_they do
23:12.23Adirellekenlyric: but it has DST (so it's CEST, UTC+2 in summer)
23:12.23Gnarfoz_right now.
23:12.23trh_and cet is gmt+1
23:12.23KarlThePaganohshi
23:12.23snurre*counts crashed servers*
23:12.23AntiarcAmadeo: Beeline for the nearest instance and don't come out for a week.
23:12.23KarlThePaganZOMG BLIZZ FAVORS EURO zomgomgzomg
23:12.23KarlThePagan;)
23:12.23bnovci bet BE starting area will be just as bad as the portal
23:12.24trh_KarlThePagan: post it in the wow us boards
23:12.24Gnarfoz_KarlThePagan: we speculated on such threads in the US forums, earlier
23:12.24KarlThePaganit's revenge for all those copy-pasted blue responses
23:12.24AmadeoAntiarc: Seriously...the way TBC is set up, it's all about conflict, haha
23:12.24trh_KarlThePagan: want to laugh about the threads :)
23:12.24AntiarcWTF EURO ONLY GOT FIRST HELBOAR KILL BECAUSE BLIZ CHEATS
23:12.24Gnarfoz_trh_: hrhr
23:12.24KarlThePaganahahah yea trh_
23:12.25trh_KarlThePagan: but usually the us are the guineapigs.. now we are :(
23:12.25kenlyricAntiarc: wait,s omeone was able to kill something? that's a hax.
23:12.25KarlThePagankek
23:12.25kergothkEnergy could use a german translation if anyone feels like doing it for me, had a request for it
23:12.25AntiarcKenlyric: I'm looking about, say a week in the future
23:12.37Adirelleuhoh, got TP'ed by a warlock, waiting for toon to pop everywhere
23:12.37kergothmeh, i really fucking hate mondays
23:12.37KarlThePaganwell damn I thought I had 24 hours to sneak localization into Grouper
23:12.37kenlyricAntiarc: oh, a new feature of sanity? rox!
23:12.37Antiarcwhich one?
23:12.38trh_kergoth: i guess until in abt a week everyone's playing tbc =)
23:12.38kenlyricseeing a week into the future.
23:12.38AntiarcOh, yeah, added that a couple commits ago.
23:12.38kenlyricawesome, I got an Encrypted Rune
23:12.38AntiarcMan
23:12.38AntiarcAnyone else try to do the Bladefist's quest on beta?
23:12.38AntiarcImagine the camping that quest had to deal with times a billion.
23:12.38AntiarcI'll be in the corner sobbing quietly.
23:12.38SungamQuick newbie question: I assume there's some overhead with calling methods in AceOO-2.0 classes. Would it be wise to avoid get- and set-methods when they aren't strictly necessary? Normally I'd use them to comply with OO guidelines, but I could see some reasoning for skipping them in this case..
23:12.38snurrelagging my way through 5 million alliance outside portasl
23:12.39renchap<= in outland :)
23:12.39snurresame now
23:12.39Adirelle<= didn't have his key now, but nvm
23:12.39Chinkukergoth: if you don't find anyone to translate it, I could have a look at it, if it's not too urgent. ;-)
23:12.39Trancer<= hasn't bough TBC :oo
23:12.40snurreand there i got DC'd :p
23:12.40Funkeh`hahahaah
23:12.40Funkeh`Arathor jsut went down
23:12.40vhaarrSungam: Generally, we don't use Set and Get methods if they're not needed.
23:12.40kenlyricyou all need to die :)
23:12.40Funkeh`world server down
23:12.40SoLoRkazzak also down :<
23:12.40snurrelol
23:12.41snurreentire EU just crashed it seems
23:12.41kenlyric<--- sitting on the most populated server in the world, not looking forward to it.
23:12.41SoLoR~500 people in front of portal aoeing = not good
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23:12.43Funkeh`retards indeed
23:12.43Gnarfoz_snurre: nah, don't exaggerate
23:12.43kergothSungam: it depends. if you're providing an api that other addons will use, then provide get/set methods so you can change the internal representation without breaking the api or adding overhead with a metatable.  if its just for use by the addon its in, or the like, dont bother
23:12.43nee-laplots of people of my guild on Dunemaul EU are in Outland now
23:12.44ChinkuAoE seems to fire automatically whenever more than some 50 people gather somewhere... gravity I suppose...
23:12.44Sungamkergoth: Alright, that makes sense. Thanks :)
23:12.44Chinkuor some magical instability
23:12.44Adirellechinku: this theroy sounds iinteresting
23:12.44TrancerSoLoR: it didn't work with AQ40
23:12.44TrancerSoLoR: didn't quite expect it to work now either ;)
23:12.44kov`haha
23:12.44kov`there's already like 20 lvl1 palas on my server
23:12.45kov`-_-
23:12.45kergothChinku: no rush on the translation, just throwing it out there in case anyone's feeling particularly bored
23:12.45AdirelleChinku : too more mana in the same point ?
23:12.45vhaarrRested XP: 0, go die, Blizzard.
23:12.45vhaarrAll that IF idling .. ><
23:12.45Antiarc>_<
23:12.45kergoth:(
23:12.46KarlThePaganQQ
23:12.46AdirelleChinku: it rips space and time and makes mana flowing out of caster body in raw form ?
23:12.46ChinkuAdirelle: that seems to be a good proposal, reminds me of some magic theories from pratchett applied to the discworld. ;-)
23:12.46AntiarcI have about 135 days /played worth of rest. >_<
23:12.46KarlThePaganoh shi.... I could have 9 hours of rested EXP!
23:12.46AntiarcDon't tell me I'm not rested!
23:12.46KarlThePagankek
23:12.46Barbanusvhaarr, you got the torrent downloaded? :)
23:12.46vhaarrBarbanus: 2mb/sec ftw.
23:12.47BarbanusNice
23:12.47BarbanusDid they enable the outlands yet?
23:12.47vhaarryes
23:12.47Chinkuhm, wasn't rested bonus cancelled completely when activating the account for bc?
23:12.47Adirelleolol, I was summoned when I was on a gryphon
23:12.47vhaarr16 people there on my server.
23:12.47Barbanusvhaarr, hows the server?
23:12.47vhaarrFrom Alliance.
23:12.47kenlyricuh, they stopped giving rest at 1.1
23:12.47Adirellethem the server was rebooted, it seems
23:12.47vhaarrJust went down a second time.
23:12.47kenlyric1.12
23:12.54kenlyricthey reset your rest to 0 at 1.12.
23:12.55vhaarrheh
23:12.55Adirelleand I just spawned back in here, *without* the gryphon under me
23:12.55Adirelles/here/air/
23:12.55Adirelle4400 damage fall
23:12.55Antiarco.0
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23:12.56Barbanusouch
23:12.56kenlyricit was all over the forums when they did the patch. Apparently when you upgrade your account, you'll start earning rest, since your maxlevel is no longer 60.
23:12.56Antiarc...ok, that bites.
23:12.56AntiarcWell, at least the week I'll have before I can log in will get me good and rested.
23:12.56vhaarrEven level 60 players rest, that's just bullshit.
23:12.56NeoTronit makes sense however
23:12.56vhaarrNo, it doesn't.
23:12.56kenlyricjesus, this is really old news. Where have you guys been? ;)
23:12.57vhaarrHere, coding.
23:12.57vhaarrYou?
23:12.57Antiarckenlyric: Not caring because I couldn't go past 60! :D
23:12.57nymbiaits what they did in beta.
23:12.57BarbanusThey wanted to allow NEW 60s to start on the same footing as OLD 60s :)
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23:12.57NeoTronsure it does. everyone would be maxed rest pretty much, should they just have increased XP requirements to avoid the first two levels from going by much faster?
23:12.57Antiarc...but why?
23:12.57kenlyricyou didn't notice your rest percent resetting every time you logged in?
23:12.57ThorgardBarbanus, where's my Tier3 gear?!
23:12.57AntiarcI've had my XP bar off since I hit 60 ages ago.
23:12.58Barbanusand what NeoTron said ...
23:12.58vhaarrSo have I.
23:12.58kov`hm
23:12.58kov`more than 49 on my server in hellfire already
23:12.58kov`gfg
23:12.58kov`-_-
23:12.58kenlyricAllPlayed = hero.
23:12.59KelbenAny clue why fubar is spazzing out my bugsack?
23:13.02PkekyoTBC unlock ready, server crashed ^^
23:13.14Barbanusif you allowed people to start with full rested, you might as well just pop everyone up to 60.75
23:13.17KelbenI can list the errors but I was wondering if a know bug is causing it
23:13.19Pkekyo"World server got downs"
23:13.19Pkekyo--------[okay]--------------
23:13.22bnovc<PROTECTED>
23:13.31EnalungWell Illidan at least still seems stable
23:13.58nymbiaEnalung: give it a few hours ;)
23:14.04vhaarrBarbanus: Not new players.
23:14.07EnalungNot that it matters since I won't be getting my copy till tomorow but it still gives me a gage I can use to know what to expect come tomorow
23:14.09nymbiait'll earn its nickname all over again.
23:14.29kenlyricso, you should log out at an inn, and upgrade your account asap, even if you can't get in and play.
23:14.35*** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@pD9E0103F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
23:14.36Laricworld server down :P
23:14.43kenlyricThe defect in that one is bleach...
23:14.48Barbanuskenlyric, you should also login to all of your alts
23:14.58BarbanusI dont know what triggers gaining XP, neither did blue
23:15.05Barbanusthey suggested logging into all of your 60 alts
23:15.11Barbanusto ensure you start getting the rested
23:16.32Enalunglol if they don't even know their own code
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23:16.47AntiarcWell, the CMs don't know the code.
23:16.50Kelben@vhaarr - you worked on closet gnome right?
23:16.51AntiarcThat's understandable.
23:16.52EnalungWell I guess the forum managers don't...
23:17.09Pkekyobnovc: bloodfeather EU got like 500 peoples at /who hellfire
23:17.13vhaarrKelben: yes
23:17.18Kelben[2007/01/15 16:08:49-21-x1]: ClosetGnome_OhNoes-1\ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua:106: attempt to call method 'ProcessDeequipQueue' (a nil value)
23:17.30Kelbendoes that mean anything?
23:18.48EnalungWhat I need right now is to get those dam states and button attributes figured out. I understand the basics but no matter how many times I read the doc I'm still hitting a wall.
23:18.52BarbanusAntiarc, exactly, I'm sure as hell gonna log all of my alts on to make sure I start getting rested tho :)
23:19.09EnalungI guess I really need to try it before I start getting a good understanding
23:19.15AntiarcNo doubt.
23:19.31EnalungYeah but the gap of knowledge I'm missing in between is massive
23:19.36AntiarcHahaha, oh man.
23:19.44AntiarcYou all remember when they told us we'd be opening the portal?
23:19.49EnalungI understand what a state is, but not how it works
23:19.56Antiarchttp://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:jdqpUxu3SiAJ:www.wowguru.com/previews/dark-portal/+dark+portal+can+currently+be+opened&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7&client=firefox-a
23:20.47EnalungAh!!!
23:21.07EnalungThat changes everything.
23:21.46BarbanusEveryone's server still crashing in the EU? :)
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23:21.58EnalungIllidan has yet to crash
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23:22.09renchap<= questing
23:22.12renchapKael Thas - EU
23:22.17Barbanusnice
23:22.24Barbanusso just a few server must be having issues
23:22.31Barbanusprobably the more populated ones
23:22.31Caimanhow could i disable full discovered map on cartoggrapher ?
23:22.37Barbanusthat gives me faith for tonight :)
23:22.42Arrowmasterdisable foglight
23:22.44Caimani dont see that option
23:23.10KarlThePagan"Foglight" -> Enabled
23:23.11ckknightCaiman: click Cartographer, go to Foglight, click Enabled
23:23.31KarlThePaganI like turning undiscovered areas green or blue or maybe dark dark red
23:23.35Caimanty all, i didn't imagine that
23:23.52EnalungAlright, I'll be getting into some unkown code but what the hell, if I have to do so then so be it!
23:24.08EnalungInc one bug after another I guess
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23:24.59Kelben@vhaarr - if you still there two things concerning closetgnome - for using switch I have to set a default set but when I manually change weapons it often reequipes the default ones very frustarting but if I turn off the default settings it doesn't change back to the correct gear after a switcher event, 2) closet gnome oh noes, could the option to change the hp% for deequiped be set by user in game if they wanted and could the oh noe
23:25.21Nomad_WandererHi.. I'm getting a baggins error: Baggins\Baggins.lua:6: Cannot find a library instance of Sieve-0.1--- the strange thing is I do have a Sieve-0.1 in my baggins lib folder
23:25.34durcynNomad_Wanderer: is it in your toc?
23:25.49Nomad_WandererLibs\Sieve-0.1\Sieve-0.1.lua
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23:26.48Nomad_Wandereris the folder case sensitive/
23:26.50vhaarrKelben: Are you sure you have the latest _Switcher?
23:26.57vhaarrKelben: And you can set the % in-game for OhNoes.
23:27.01vhaarrKelben: /ohnoes
23:27.22vhaarrKelben: Get DeuceCommander.
23:27.28Kelben@vhaarr never knew the /command
23:27.40Kelbenyeah need to take a look at deuce
23:28.03Kelbenand yes I'm using the most recent version of switcher, you wrote the evocation mod for it
23:28.31CIA-1703thrae * r25330 10SpamIt/ (. .SpamIt.toc.swp SpamIt.lua SpamIt.toc): SpamIt: Use /script SpamIt_Start() and /script SpamIt_Stop() in macros to start and stop suppressing "Out of energy", "Ability not ready", and "Out of rage" errors in the UIErrorsFrame.
23:28.43Nomad_WandererSieve isn't available as a standalone?
23:28.49Kelbenand after evocating unless I have a default set checked off it doesn't de equip the evocation staff and return to what I was previously wearing
23:28.50vhaarrThrae: What's wrong with ErrorMonster?
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23:29.26KarlThePaganthat's what i was thinkin
23:29.28CIA-1703totalpackage * r25331 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua frame.lua):
23:29.28CIA-17Cellular
23:29.28CIA-17- added option to toggle fading
23:29.36Nomad_WandererDoes Sieve have to be listed in this line? Baggins = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceDebug-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0", "AceHook-2.1")
23:29.40CIA-1703thrae * r25332 10SpamIt/.SpamIt.toc.swp: SpamIt: Whoops, that swap file isn't suppose to be in there
23:29.42KarlThePaganand kek comitted vim swap file
23:29.50KarlThePagan:D
23:29.56KarlThePagani did the same thing
23:29.59Kelben@vhaarr - any merit in the ohnoes and aggro suggestion?
23:30.09OvrLrd-Qlol
23:30.10vhaarrKelben: What aggro suggestion?
23:30.10AdirelleNomad_Wanderer: no
23:30.39Kelben@vhaarr - if you gain aggro it triggers the de-equiping of weapons (feature for squishies)
23:30.41Kelbenw
23:30.47Kelbensince 1 hit = death
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23:31.08vhaarrKelben: Hrm, I guess that could be done.
23:31.29Nomad_Wandererhmm.. I dont get it.. latest from trunk is giving me this error: : Baggins\Baggins.lua:6: Cannot find a library instance of Sieve-0.1: Not sure where to debug from here.
23:31.59_neuron_when making a fubar plugin, how do I get it to save "show text" and such without doing it manually?
23:32.09AntiarcSeems like that would cause problems with mobs with secondary random aggro effects
23:32.14Benumbedmake sure the libarary is loaded beore baggins.lua?
23:32.18Benumbedbefore
23:32.24Funkeh`gn
23:32.34AdirelleNomad_Wanderer: quite weird, I'm using last revision from trunk and all is ok
23:32.44Kelben@antiarc if mob isn't aggroed on you untrigger event
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23:34.46BarbanusKelben, I like that idea :P
23:35.00Barbanusmages = dead, why not reduce dura loss :P
23:35.43Kelbenyeah - 10k crushing on cloth non crit is a rather one way ticket
23:36.47KarlThePaganso .... I wonder if Blizz remembered to buff that demon that spawns and kills you if you interrupt the Benediction quest
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23:37.07KarlThePaganbecause he sounds like a pushover compared to the shit in TBC
23:37.16Kelbenand actually i'd love the option to disable ohnoes spam when its triggered is totally pointless in seeing it in pvp
23:37.16BarbanusKarlThePagan, have you seen the blue healing staffs?
23:37.22OvrLrd-Qhave you fought him before KarlThePagan?
23:37.31BarbanusKarlThePagan, benediction = hahahahahahahahaha :P
23:37.35KarlThePaganyea IIRC he did something like 12k crushing
23:37.41KarlThePaganstill... it would be funny to kill the thing
23:37.50Barbanustrue
23:38.16OvrLrd-Qwell the other day he was still 62 so dunno
23:38.37KarlThePaganlol awesome
23:38.54OvrLrd-Qcan't remember if it was before or after patch
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23:39.31Silviu-U play BC with same client or install new BC client from CD
23:39.52CIA-1703rabbit * r25333 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: ProcessDeequipQueue can't be local.
23:39.53durcynThrae: spamit == errormonster?
23:40.03HjalteSilviu-: You need to install something from the cd's
23:40.20Thraedurcyn: No, it does exactly what its TOC description says it does.
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23:40.23Silviu-Hjalte Ok, thank u i hope i get CD`s tomorrow or so
23:40.29Kelbenoh and is wowaceupdater down?
23:40.30ThraeAnd what my commit message says it does
23:40.43CIA-1703pastamancer * r25334 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: Aura: handle stacking HoTs
23:40.46durcynThrae: erm, okay. sorry :>
23:41.20sysragewhat's the ora2lod.bat for in oRA2?
23:41.57Barbanussysrage, makes all of the ora stuff load on demand
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23:42.28XuerianThrae, your name is so similar to a old guildie of mine, I have this insane urge to blame you for everything every time I see your name.
23:42.36evlOh man this made me laugh
23:42.37evl<Alanna> Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders
23:42.37sysrageoh. thought it did that by default.. anybody else getting a babble-zone errors on startup with the latest oRA2?
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23:42.48zombioobXuerian, it's probably right, says my Ockham's razor. :>
23:42.56Xuerianhaha evl, yeah.
23:44.34CIA-1703nymbia * r25335 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (10 files in 7 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Minor fix to :AddData(). Added TradeskillResultMats, which contains all the tradeskill items, with the mats to make them as the value. Contained in a seperate module because of the data's size.
23:46.10KemayoKarlThePagan: Pong.
23:46.52zombioobhm, wait. Why am I zombie?
23:46.59yacoobrefresh!
23:47.07KarlThePaganKemayo, thanks for the Quixote fix seems to work for me
23:47.22CIA-1703pastamancer * r25336 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridFrame.xml): Grid: default left click action must always be target, blargh.
23:48.00KarlThePaganalso Kemayo I think Quixote's quest by zone iterator is giving me boolean false instead of a title
23:48.03KarlThePagancoping ;)
23:48.07Antiarchttp://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Little_Black_Book.aspx
23:48.09AntiarcAUGH.
23:48.13Trancerpastamancer: there was some bug with BG zoning and Grid, if you left the BG it would keep some of your old stuff in Grid
23:48.23Tranceronly seemed to happen if you were groupped
23:48.58sysragei was having that happen with the default UI
23:49.16sysrageit kept you in raid after leaving the BG
23:49.19Barbanusevl, ROFL, thats awesome
23:51.26Kelben@ckknight - your the author of fubar correct?
23:51.31ckknightyes
23:51.37ckknightand it's "you're"
23:51.43Benumbedlol
23:51.53Benumbeddraneye?
23:51.57trh_lol.. sounds like theres real chaos at the few stores selling at midnight.. 200 people
23:52.16ThraeKelben: The @ symbol means he's a channel administrator for this channel, it's not part of his nick
23:52.29Kelbennod my bad, but is there any simple answer to these xml errors its been spamming me and my guild mates with?
23:52.40maiackknight: a quick question, as I just installed the cartographer sharing module: why does it only allow to share via guild and group channel, and not via the zone channel? would be pretty helpful with all the new zones in TBC.
23:52.44ckknightno, seeing as FuBar doesn't have any XML in it.
23:52.59ckknightmaia: Blizzard blocked em.
23:53.05BarbanusBenumbed, its Draino
23:53.09BarbanusThey are blue
23:53.10ckknightmaia: you'll be kicked from spam
23:53.14Barbanusand unclog drains
23:53.23maiackknight: ew.
23:53.29durcynthere's no such thing as a zone SendAddonMessage channel, maia
23:53.53Kelbenand the cartographer mod - the look and feel module - why when enable am I unable to use mouse clicks on the map?
23:53.56maiadurcyn: hmm, I thought there was a channel for BG, group, zone, guild and world. I must have dreamed.
23:54.08durcynno world or zone, just party, raid, bg, guild
23:54.19KemayoKarlThePagan: Hmmm.  It really shouldn't be.
23:54.28ThraeWhy did they disallow World SendAddonMessage? That just means we're back to using Chat Channels.
23:54.40ckknightThrae: it never existed,.
23:54.55Thraeckknight: Right, so why didn't they allow it in the first place?
23:54.58yacoobas AKX noted once, "spatial" or "say" addon channel would be good
23:55.02AntiarcMassive amounts of traffic.
23:55.05ckknightThrae: traffic
23:55.05Barbanuscould you imagine the overhead? ... ugh
23:55.11AntiarcThere's a certain disincentive to use comm channels.
23:55.15CrisCrOssis ne 1 else getting Bugs left right n centre?
23:55.22ckknightKelben: don't know what you mean, did you lock it?
23:55.23CrisCrOssim getting some Ace2 bugs AgUF bugs Metahud bugs
23:55.25ThraeWell there's the traffic from using the current chat channel method...
23:55.26CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r25337 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua:
23:55.26CIA-17Talismonger-2.0:
23:55.26CIA-17- added deDE localization
23:55.26CIA-17- typos fixed
23:55.26CIA-17- DRYCODED
23:55.30AntiarcAllow SendAddonMessage with WORLD as a parameter and the traffic would go through the -roof-
23:55.59Kelbenck - doh
23:56.07Kelbenthanks
23:56.21BarbanusThrae, what mods do you know that share info with *EVERYONE*?
23:56.31ThraeI guess that means they don't have a good way to detect when someone would be abusing SendAddonMessage
23:56.35vid`http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/14/america/NA-GEN-US-Water-Intoxication.php
23:56.39BarbanusI can't really think of one that I want to allow everyone to be able to throw shit data at ...
23:56.50ThraeBarbanus: LFG, Player Notes, Roleplayer Notes
23:56.53Kelbengather style mod
23:56.55AntiarcBarbanus: I'd like to be able to use something like that with a subscription model for my guild alliance, for once
23:57.00KarlThePaganyea call to arms
23:57.01maiawell, then thats a good explanation why cartographer doesnt support it :)
23:57.01AntiarcPlayer notes and RP mods need it too.
23:57.07AntiarcCall to Arms is another good example.
23:57.10KarlThePaganitem links for itemdb
23:57.30KarlThePaganthe thing is the data needs to be easily verifiable
23:57.36KarlThePaganitem links self-verify
23:57.42KarlThePaganthey're valid or they aren't
23:57.50KarlThePagangatherer data isn't
23:58.05Kelbenit could be faked?
23:58.07AntiarcHonestly, I'd be really happy if they gave us the ability to send addon messages to addon channels that a) didn't take channel slots, b) required a subscription, and c) were throttled more heavily than other channels.
23:58.30KarlThePaganLFGQuery data I'm not sure if I want to broadcast to the server
23:58.40ThraeI remember slouken saying that initially SendAddonMessage would have no throttling
23:58.43KarlThePaganprobably just in-guild
23:58.55ThraeDon't know if he's added any real throttling to it.
23:58.57trh_Antiarc: actually it'd be great it there was just a partyADDON, raidADDON, bgADDON and so on channel :)
23:59.05trh_#
23:59.11Antiarctrh_: There already are?
23:59.16KarlThePaganyea there are
23:59.21trh_uh.. never looked into that :)
23:59.23KarlThePaganparty,raid,battleground,guild
23:59.30KarlThePagan1.12
23:59.32KarlThePaganiirc
23:59.35trh_nice
23:59.35CIA-1703toadkiller * r25338 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.xml AutoBarButton.lua Core.lua):
23:59.35CIA-17AutoBar:
23:59.35CIA-17-- Dont show annoying ugly borders around buttons
23:59.36CIA-17-- Slightly better button click feedback
23:59.40trh_does AceComm use them?
23:59.40Antiarchttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage
23:59.42KarlThePaganyes
23:59.50AntiarcThe first parameter is the "Addon" identified.
23:59.52CrisCrOsswhats the MountMe forum link
23:59.57Antiarcs/indentified/identifier/

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