irclog2html for #wowace on 20070114

00:00.01Lisa`thanks trh :)
00:00.05SmeltnLuthorhuss, what is your problems with eepanels
00:00.07Smeltnmine is completely broke now
00:00.16trhLisa`: kp
00:00.25trhLisa`: er.. np
00:00.28Lisa`lol
00:00.42Luthorhussmy panels doest show..
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00:01.05Luthorhussand when i create a new, i get bug when i wanna lock / unlock to drag..
00:01.16Smeltnsame
00:01.17CIA-1703nymbia * r25029 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Slight reorganization to food.
00:01.22SmeltnInterface\Addons\eePanels\core.lua:802:attempt to call method 'Hide' (a nil value)
00:01.25Smeltnis the bug I get
00:01.26Luthorhussi got some info from buggrbber if u want.. ?
00:01.27Luthorhuss007/01/14 00:52:49-19-x1]: eePanels-1.0\core.lua:903: attempt to index field 'background' (a nil value)<in C code>: ?AceEvent-2.0-23383 (Ace2):251: in function `TriggerEvent'AceEvent-2.0-23383 (Ace2):962: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:955>
00:01.45Fisker-Anyone know who that Talented guy is and if he ever visits irc?
00:01.46Smeltnyeah mine has been broken all day also
00:02.01Luthorhussyeh.. :(
00:02.15Smeltnsuggestions on chatmods?
00:02.24Luthorhussi breaks my whole UI.. making it look bad w/o eepanels..
00:02.28sylvanaarhe made a prat module i like him already
00:02.33Smeltnsame Luthor
00:02.52SmeltnI used prat before, should I continue or anyone have any other suggestions
00:03.22Luthorhussprat it lovely... :)
00:03.24sylvanaaruse what you like...im biased
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00:03.52yacoobtrh, any remote idea of such search engine? :)
00:04.04yacoob(I was hoping that perhaps some folks here know some details about wow... :)
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00:04.23AmadeoAfter reading some compiled FAQs on the iPhone, I'm very unimpressed...sleek looking phone, but no features to justify the insanely high price
00:04.36CIA-1703jerry * r25030 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data.toc: Talented_Data: making room for InBed
00:04.48Smeltnlol Amadeo, not counting that might not be the name of it, considering cisco is sueing apples' ass off
00:04.54Amadeohaha
00:04.58yacoobAmadeo, and its inability to launching 3rd party code...
00:05.09AmadeoI'm sick of the iNames anyway
00:05.13Amadeoit's so played out now
00:05.15yacoob(unless they hack it, but that's "might" not "will" :)
00:05.23trhyacoob: try http://scholar.google.com/
00:05.48yacoobfigures :)
00:05.57Amadeoyacoob: The third party software thing is what bothers me the most
00:06.06AmadeoIt's a $600 phone...come on!
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00:06.37EyeOfHellHello. Another noob question from a beginner add-on writer ;). Does ipairs() skip key = 0 while iterating?
00:06.42trhthat iPhone thingy makes adults look like little children with that "i-want-that-thing" look :)
00:06.51Smeltnits Apple Inc.'s way of saying, "We are affraid someone may make it better"
00:07.10yacoob"Shiny! *drools*"
00:07.11AmadeoWell, if Apple puts out plenty of software for it...I won't care as much
00:07.18Amadeobut if you're stuck with what it has...
00:07.21trhAmadeo: it's 600$ + contract with mobile company
00:07.24yacoobAmadeo, I would, anyway.
00:07.27CIA-1703jerry * r25031 10Talented_Data/Libs/: Talented_Data - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
00:07.35Amadeotrh: Yeah
00:07.59trhAmadeo: amazon germany says something about 999 EUR without contract for the 8gb version
00:08.08sylvanaarEyeOfHell: ipairs -> table.insert/remove
00:08.08trhbut it will take a few more months until its available here
00:08.21AmadeoWell, they're still working on it also..so, there might be changes
00:08.34AmadeoAll I know is, plenty of other Smartphones can do more...even if they don't look as nice :)
00:09.06kagarock:ping
00:09.10trhAmadeo: well i do think the best part is the touchscreen + integrated ipod :)
00:09.12Ominous~seen Nickenyfiken
00:09.34purlnickenyfiken <n=najklord@83.145.59.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 5h 21m 44s ago, saying: 'well if its in trunk i consider it beta atleast'.
00:09.34ckknightkagaro: hrm?
00:09.34EyeOfHellsylvanaar: so, does table.insert() starts from 0 or 1? ;)
00:09.39sylvanaarEyeOfHell: 1
00:09.46kagarock: I need to remove Babble-Ore, Herbs and Fish .. ive replaced their functionality into Talismonger-2.0
00:09.49Amadeotrh: I'm not sold on the touch screen...it looks awesome, but it's not as handy when you need to do things without looking
00:09.57ckknightum
00:09.59ckknightokay
00:10.12ckknightyou sure that's the best solution?
00:10.26kagaroIt doesnt hurt to leave them in
00:10.30nymbiawouldnt it be best to keep the translations themselves in babble?
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00:10.38EyeOfHellsylvanaar: Thanks. So i'm doomed to use indexes from 1 ;(. What a misery for 10+ years of C++ programming ;(( *sob*
00:10.43trhAmadeo: i believe that is just a question of time to get comfortable with it if the user interface is good :)
00:10.59trhAmadeo: the thing that dissapoints me more is that they don't allow 3rd party software
00:11.03trhAmadeo: no scummvm :(
00:11.09sylvanaarEyeOfHell: no
00:11.09EraslinEyeOfHell: I was in the same boat. It sure takes some getting used to...
00:11.32AmadeoWe'll see what happens when it comes out, things could change if people complain enough :)
00:11.35yacoobas usual, apple is packaging some neat ideas within shiny box, together with some nuissances and crazy price :D
00:11.45EyeOfHellEraslin: no problems, actually. Just a little discomfort that i can't do things the same way i'm used to ;)
00:11.49sylvanaarEyeOfHell: ipairs is just short for while t[i++]
00:12.02nadasOminous: you should add a trinket-category to RogueTimerFU.. :) of course i'm only saying that because i'm too lazy to add my trinkets to Bars.lua everytime i get a new version.. :)
00:12.15sylvanaaryou dont have to use it
00:12.16Funkeh`Saroz: i will try my best if i ever see them again
00:12.27trhAmadeo: that's what i think too... anyway i'm happy with my nokia 6230i at the moment :)
00:12.27Sarozyou just need the yells :)
00:12.31Trancerindexes starting at 1? Brr.
00:12.32kagaronymbia: shrug I setup talismonger to handle it, caause those translations are as universal as babble itself .. i.e. spells and zones pretty much any mod would use where as ore and fish arent so common
00:12.41EyeOfHellsylvanaar: i have tried a = {[0] = 'a', [1] = 'b', [2] = 'c'}; for k, v in ipairs(a) <-- it does only 2 items, with keys '1' and '2'
00:12.45kagaro*arent
00:12.47Funkeh`they yell before the abilities? i thoguht it was completely random 20-30 50-60 etc
00:12.50Ominousnadas: too tired to think about it now, send me an e-mail with the trinkets and any code you use at the moment and ill think abou tit
00:12.53EyeOfHellsylvanaar: or am i wrong somehow
00:12.58AmadeoI just want worldwide WiFi so I can make free calls everywhere :P
00:13.02nadasOminous: hehe ok :)
00:13.03sylvanaarEyeOfHell: you missed the 2nd part
00:13.04EraslinEyeOfHell: ipairs starts at 1
00:13.08sylvanaaryou dont have to use it
00:13.19EyeOfHellsylvanaar: Ah, yes ;)
00:13.27SarozFunkeh`, just a warning when it pops.. you cant predict when it pops
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00:13.44nymbiakagaro: i suppose.  well.. you could also just pull the localized name using the itemid, too.
00:13.57EyeOfHellsylvanaar: but not using ipairs means some sort() thing before each indexed table or custom iterator. And i'm not sure about speed issue
00:14.05Funkeh`well i will probably do some crazy 5 man at level 65 or something so ill try get it in then :p
00:14.15EyeOfHellsylvanaar: becouse pairs() have a random order generally ;(
00:14.25Funkeh`but my main concern is rushing to 60 and getting karazhan bosses done tbh :p
00:14.28kagaronymbia: yeah for items loots but not things ike the ore veins I dont think they have a localization
00:14.29Funkeh`70 even
00:14.37sylvanaaryeah you can use #table
00:14.41nymbiakagaro: that's true
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00:15.09sylvanaarif you could use ipairs that is
00:15.09EyeOfHellsylvanaar: i'm new to LUA and addons, can you be so kind do describe a '#table' thing more detailed? What is it, at last? ;)
00:15.38trhEyeOfHell: # generally stands for "number of"
00:15.46trhEyeOfHell: so #table is the number of entries in table
00:16.05sylvanaarhere it comes...
00:16.09sylvanaar...wait
00:16.17sylvanaarhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/
00:16.25sylvanaar^.^
00:16.29kagaroive got talismonger setup so including it gives you some events to listen to for gathering information. i.e. Talismonger_NodeFound and Talismonger_Looted   which only contains tradeskills type ores, minerals, herbs, and gems
00:16.31cynyrsylvanaar: thats a good manual
00:16.37trhthere was the obligatory RTFM ;)
00:16.39trhas usual ;)
00:16.48sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
00:16.54Ominousdoes anyone use the G15 here
00:17.01nymbiakagaro: hmm. sounds like a good setup.
00:17.04sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
00:17.10TheKarnhas wow-europe just dopped out of the sky/
00:17.24EyeOfHellsylvanaar: thanks, checking
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00:17.31sylvanaarhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Tips_and_tricks_for_using_..._in_WoW_2.0
00:17.39kagaronymbia: ive been testing all day so far works flawlessly for fishing, mining and herbalism
00:18.00nymbiakagaro: neat.  is it gonna be used in the carto modules, then?
00:19.03kagarothat was my thought nymbia, also Talismonger is an instance of AceLocale so all the translations are available for the event listeners
00:19.29nymbiakagaro: nice
00:19.34Finsylvanaar: is there any danger in PRAT_MODULE (as set at the top of a module) when setting Prat_AddonMsgs.moduleName and Prat_AddonMsgs.guiName?
00:20.19kagarothat would make cart mining, herbs, fishing very short and compact modules with a single shared load for translations and lookups
00:20.41kagaroalso other mods that want to be informed for gathering type events or tradskill loot gathered can just add a listener
00:20.42Finand for Prat_AddonMsgs.guiName, could I just do Prat_AddonMsgs.guiName = string.lower(PRAT_MODULE) -- ?
00:20.58Koaschtenwho is in charge for cartographer_herbalism?
00:21.19nymbiaKoaschten: kergoth, iirc
00:21.21sylvanaaryou say local PRAT_MODULE = Prat:RequesName("name")
00:22.07TheKarnis MusicStream broken?
00:22.10Finoh, yeah
00:22.29cynyrTheKarn: yes blizard "fixed" it
00:22.39TheKarnhow annoying
00:23.04cynyrTheKarn: from thier point of view, it could have been getting info from an outside of game source
00:23.23TheKarni still think they should have an irc client in there
00:24.21TheKarn:)
00:24.21Koaschtenkergoth: Scenario Person1 no herbalism skilled, Person2 herbalism skilled, both got cartographer + herbalism module, bot are grouped and sync is set to group. Person2 picks a herb, broadcasts it to the group and Person1 gets an error. (sadly i didnt copy it earlier noticed it late, as ich checked if the nodes were there after a relog
00:24.21kagaronymbia: and all done without hooking the CHAT_MSG* events
00:24.21nymbiakagaro: nice :D
00:24.26cynyrTheKarn: i would like to see /j "my_new_chan" work...
00:24.46kagaroKoaschten: i did the notesharing module
00:24.54cynyrgranted i'm sure it would be easy to ad to prat...
00:25.32Finsylvanaar: is there any danger in using Prat_AddonMsgs.moduleName to set the other variables in Prat_AddonMsgs?
00:25.38Finoh hmm
00:26.07kagaroKoaschten: could you replicate it and get a BugGrabber trace?
00:26.16Findoes it pass a reference or a value when setting something like a = "hello" then b = a ?
00:26.16CIA-1703kemayo * r25032 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix "883: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value)" (when quest reward items aren't yet in the local cache).
00:26.25hastehttp://www.discordmods.com/DiscordUnitFrames/CustomLayouts/Hiro.jpg << I see how DUF helps people making nice UIs
00:26.42sylvanaarFin: yeah thats sorta the point of it you use the token everywhere
00:26.42Amadeohaste: Super Hiro!!!!!!
00:26.54hasteAmadeo: not really
00:26.59Amadeo:(
00:27.12Ominousdoes anyone use the G15 here? and what do they think of i
00:27.18trhhe can bend time and space? :)
00:27.27nymbiaOminous: i have one
00:27.27Ominouss/of i/of it
00:28.01Ominousnymbia: how well does it work with wow and is it work the money?
00:28.12art3misi wish eepanels wasnt broken
00:28.20CIA-1703morgalm * r25033 10MorgBid/ (MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc localization.lua):
00:28.20CIA-17MorgBid:
00:28.20CIA-17- deDE localization
00:28.21sylvanaarworth every penny g15
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00:28.50EyeOfHellsylvanaar: thanks for links, Wowace tips was useful. is 'local' in global namespace workd for lua file in question or for all lua files included in toc ?
00:29.01nymbiaOminous: works wonderfully with wow.  worth the money.. depends.  mine was a gift. but after using it, i'd say it'd be worth the money to me.
00:29.23Ominouswell i suppose thats £50 spent now xD
00:29.33TularWhat do you guys like better, Grid or sRaidFrames?
00:30.08nymbiaTular: try em both out, see which one works for you ;)
00:30.10Finsylvanaar: would anything weird happen if I did something like this: http://ace.pastey.net/5052  ## ?
00:31.10FinEyeOfHell: read this: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaScoping
00:31.46Ominouswowace has got faster now :)
00:32.12sylvanaarFin: that looks ok to me
00:32.17trhcynyr: uhm..why?
00:32.20Fingreat
00:32.43cynyrtrh: so the core logic and the renderer could run as seperate threads...
00:32.46|neuron|cynyr, the bastards multi threaded it on mac (and opengl stuff)
00:32.47FinI want to make a sort of template module for myself and have as few places as possible where I have to set the required bits
00:32.52CIA-1703totalpackage * r25034 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
00:32.52CIA-17Cellular
00:32.52CIA-17- probable fix to support mods that changes the default chat editbox's location
00:33.06sylvanaarFin: your menu will just be toggle,debug,favorite
00:33.32trhcynyr: then they'd need interprocess communication  which is very costly for the hardware and wouldn't be worth it
00:33.58Finnext thing I was going to do was go find where there's a list of menu bits and categories
00:34.03cynyrtrh: i'm just bitching cause everytime wow has to do a disk read i drop to like 1fps
00:34.20Finsylvanaar: I don't know exactly what that means yet, but noted, thanks :)
00:34.23trhcynyr: then there is something wrong with your system
00:34.33trhcynyr: dma enabled? and enough ram?
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00:35.10cynyrtrh: only 512Mb ram.. and yes dma is enabled, hdparm -Tt gives me about 50MB/s....
00:35.25trhcynyr: you're running it under linux with wine?
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00:35.45cynyrtrh: yep, the game didn't come with a copy of windows...
00:35.59cynyrand this only started since 2.0
00:36.22|neuron|cynyr, I run it on linux too, and my brother's almost identical hardware does not run wow any better in windows ;)
00:36.24trhcynyr: thats the problem (wine) - the disk wrapper functions are crap and the game takes so much memory together with linux so it has to swap and so on
00:36.47|neuron|trh, .. rubish, when I played wow eu beta I had 512mb memory, windows swapped, linux did not.
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00:36.54TheKarnis there any way to get around the [2007/01/14 00:36:14-844-x1]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarRight:SetPoint()'.
00:36.54TheKarn<in C code>: in function `SetPoint'
00:36.58EyeOfHellFin: thanks for link, too. '%' is interesting ;). But since i'm a new to LUA, it's till unclear : if i write 'local a' in the gloabl scope of my .lua add-on, this will 'a' will be available only inside this file, only inside all .lua inside add-on's .toc or from any code?
00:37.02|neuron|flightpath in windows was just horrible
00:37.14nymbiaTheKarn: tainty.
00:37.26trh|neuron|: but since then the memory usage of X isn't better...
00:37.32FinEyeOfHell: as I understand it, yes
00:37.39_neuron_trh, huh?
00:37.40trhjust think of aiglx in xorg 7.1 and so on
00:37.52TheKarnnymbia, taintchecker?
00:38.08nymbiaTheKarn: worth a shot
00:38.17_neuron_those extensions dont take any extra resources unless you turn them on, and if he has lag I dont think he's running compiz, it's pretty obvius that will slow him down.
00:38.23EyeOfHellFin: lol ;). Good answer for a question 'a or b or c?' ;))
00:38.24cynyr_neuron_: i got almost 40fps all the time till patch 2.0...
00:38.39_neuron_cynyr, got any mods that graph stuff? like dps graph?
00:38.43_neuron_that absolutly killed my fps in 2.0
00:38.58_neuron_mkdir -p Cache/WDB/enGB doing that in my wow dir helped too
00:39.03trh_neuron_: on my system the memory usage got up about 50mb in the last few months.. just with updaten X
00:39.12cynyr_neuron_: nope no compiz/beryl/etc, the closest to that would be swstats
00:39.16trh_neuron_: updating
00:39.22_neuron_cynyr, I dont have any problems with that
00:39.29_neuron_trh, I haven't seen an increase in memory usage at all
00:39.42trh_neuron_: what distribution are you using?
00:39.46_neuron_gentoo 64bit
00:39.56bigzeroanyone good with widget api?
00:39.59FinEyeOfHell: I'm new to Lua to - and apologies for not reading your message all the way through :) I read "if i write 'local a' in the gloabl scope of my .lua add-on, this will 'a' will be available only inside this file"
00:40.01_neuron_so if there is a memory increase I should get it a bit harder than you ;)
00:40.11FinEyeOfHell: although actually I think it'll be visibile within any included files as well
00:40.13cynyr_neuron_: gentoo 32bit here
00:40.15trh_neuron_: i'm using ubuntu x32 (because the x64 package availability sucks)
00:40.22_neuron_trh, that's why I use gentoo :P
00:40.29_neuron_easy to mix in 32bit stuff, and very clean as well
00:40.38cynyrmm mutilib
00:40.43grennoni tried gentoo but the demands of a normal sex life prevented me from using it
00:40.52Fin!
00:40.55_neuron_grennon, well I'm blessed with not having that
00:40.57trhgrennon: !!!! word!
00:40.57_neuron_atm
00:40.58grennonsix straight days of compiling on my ultrasparc system
00:41.02_neuron_haha
00:41.03yacoobgentoo - turn your pc into a heater 8)
00:41.17cynyryacoob: it already is... stupid 6600GT
00:41.25_neuron_well /me 's on a relativly fast box, and for mixing in 32bit stuff with 64bit I just love it, got ubuntu on my server + laptop though.
00:41.43trh_neuron_: i use debian on my server :)
00:41.49grennonthere is an update addiction some people have, they have to run whatever code is the most bleeding edge, sid users on debian, those chronic wowaceupdaters
00:41.56bigzerowell, i'llask anyway....if i want to use something as an anchor, do I have to define it above the object I use it for?
00:42.02grennonand the more feedback the update process gives, the move fun it is for them
00:42.04cynyrtrh: so it's using what? apache .09?
00:42.09grennonfor this user, gentoo is crack
00:42.12yacoobdebian has lost its appeal to me lately...
00:42.13trhcynyr: apache2
00:42.19Finfuckers even set us up with remotely synced My Documents folders by default
00:42.27cynyrtrh: wow.. i though debian was stil 1.x
00:42.28_neuron_hehe
00:42.40trhcynyr: well i use experimental ;)
00:42.42yacoobcynyr, no, but they missed release date again :D
00:42.51trhcynyr: its not a productivity server
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00:43.25cynyrtrh: i'm just picking on debian stable history of being about 3 years out of date
00:43.44_neuron_cynyr, so your pretty much up to date then
00:43.50yacooband that's the problem with debian nowadays
00:43.55|Kev|grennon: I think claiming sid is bleeding edge is pushing the point
00:44.10trhcynyr: true
00:44.12Koaschtenkagaro http://ace.pastey.net/5055
00:44.13grennonit is for a debian user
00:44.15cynyr_neuron_: pretty much, newest wine and nvidia-drivers, 2.6.18 kernel...
00:44.16_neuron_so what's the bestest in the entire world cooldown thing to use with bartender3 now?
00:44.30|Kev|I mean, gentoo is fairly bleeding edge
00:44.35Kemayo_neuron_: If you're not using the built-in one, probably OmniCC.
00:44.38cynyr|Kev|: can be..
00:44.39|Kev|beyond the bleeding edge with some of those sodding patches
00:44.41_neuron_cynyr, I'd try it without ui, and with ui just to see if it's anything there screwing it up
00:44.45Koaschtenkagaro seems the problem is the database is not loaded, cause i dont have herbalism skill ;)
00:44.46_neuron_Kemayo, the built in one is removed ;)
00:44.51Koaschtenand the database isnt loaded
00:44.59|Kev|but sid's just a bit less tested than testing
00:45.01Kemayo_neuron_: Oh, okay.  Well, OmniCC seems to work well.
00:45.03yacoobgentoo is pretty much lots of wasted effort. Good for learning and tweaking, bad for anything else :D
00:45.16_neuron_yeah, /me 'll grab that one, just asked incase someone went "no XXX is waaay better than omnicc" ;)
00:45.22|Kev|I'm not sure it's all that great for either learning or tweaking either
00:45.26|Kev|but I'm not big on gentoo
00:45.35_neuron_yacoob, for the most part I'd agree with you, but I have a need to mix 32bit libraries and 64bit
00:45.36yacoob|Kev|, well, you get plunged into things.
00:45.40_neuron_and I need a 64bit development platform
00:45.47cynyryacoob: i;ve had problems with every other distro that were not fixable, but fixable with gentoo
00:45.55|Kev|I don't believe that for a moment
00:46.03trh_neuron_: buy a athlon64, they are very cheap :)
00:46.04|Kev|anything you can do on gentoo, you can do elsewhere
00:46.04yacoob_neuron_, hard to discuss it, as I haven't ever needed 64bit on pc :>
00:46.13_neuron_trh, I have a X2 amd64 ;)
00:46.17yacoobcynyr, appologies then :D
00:46.30yacoobjust out of curiosity, what were those problems, any example?
00:46.30_neuron_|Kev|, absolutly, but it's a pain in comparison with gentoo
00:46.31trh_neuron_: then feel free to install a platform on it :P
00:46.56cynyr|Kev|: i've had sevel apps in unbuntu not ship with an init script, and there was no docon how to do that. How do i set eth0 to 10baseT in $not_gentoo?
00:47.12EyeOfHellSo, as far as i understood, if 'local' is used with global scope variable, such variable will be available only for lua files mentioned in addon's .toc? And how about 'Dependence' add-on's ?
00:47.17cynyr|Kev|: work around a bug in the code morphing software in a lappy's transmeta chip?
00:47.33_neuron_heh... imagine if all the wow servers went down permanently.... just imagine how much more developers the world would have doing productive stuff :P
00:47.41cynyryacoob: see above
00:48.02yacoobcynyr, ah, I see. So you were looking for something that would solve your specific problems. Well. You found it :)
00:48.03NargiddleyEyeOfHell, local is at most the files its contained it.
00:48.16EyeOfHellNargiddley: thanks
00:48.18CIA-1703kagaro * r25035 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: fixed a note sharing issues with non registered DB's
00:48.27yacoob(of course the thing is, in gentoo things are patched to provide you that, they can be also patched in any other distro as well, right? :D)
00:48.31_neuron_good man, that's annoyed me lately
00:48.39|Kev|cynyr: just because gentoo will do those things easily for you doesn't mean they're not possible elsewhere, it is just GNU/Linux after all
00:48.55|Kev|yacoob: gentoo's patching is not always a good thing
00:49.07yacoob_neuron_, if all serwers would go down, most of the devs will die before their screens refreshing the server status page... :D
00:49.08Koaschtenkagaro how did you fix it? if share event noticed, buffer the event, load db, add data to db?
00:49.13cynyr|Kev|: i know, but i've had uge huge problems trying to use software thats not in the package manager with suse/redhat...
00:49.19_neuron_yacoob, a valid point :P
00:49.21|Kev|I know they patch some apps with patches that were rejected from mainline because they caused segfaults etc
00:49.33CIA-1703tekkub * r25036 10FuBar_CorkFu/ClassShaman.lua: FuBar_CorkFu - Shaman crap from Vythus
00:49.37yacoob|Kev|, I do know that, my coworker uses gentoo, and I have a nice feed of 'man, I had this peculiar problem last night...'
00:49.41yacoob8)
00:49.43_neuron_|Kev|, any patches that are rejected are reverted in gentoo
00:49.51yacoobto each his own porn I say
00:49.55kagarothe problem was a check i put in to make sure duplicates werent found
00:49.57cynyrlol, yep
00:50.00|Kev|_neuron_: perhaps in principle
00:50.06_neuron_well yeah :P
00:50.06|Kev|_neuron_: certainly not in practise
00:50.15_neuron_they are, it just sometimes takes some time :P
00:50.39_neuron_sigh, I came in here and now I have no idea what I was doing :P
00:50.45cynyrthe few times i've used ubuntu i've disliked. or it didn't detect my hardware, or like when installing kernel sources did not install the tools to make menuconfig it.
00:50.47EyeOfHell_neuron_: nope. All of the devs will return to they main work. And Radmin 3.0 will be released at last ;))
00:50.51|Kev|We had some amount of trouble in my project just getting them to make the patches need 'extras' as a keyword, because the crappy version they were shipping looked so bad on my app
00:51.16|Kev|getting the patches removed completely seems impossible
00:51.33cynyr|Kev|: usually the ebuild should get a vanilla flag...
00:52.26grennonwell, they have good bootstrap quality
00:52.28cynyryacoob: i just like the use flag and the RC system...
00:52.41cynyrmy desktop does not have QT on it...
00:52.57grennonafter gentoo, some debian users got on the boostrapping kick and started recompiling all of debian and fixing errors that keep it from self-boostrapping
00:53.00trhyacoob: i do see only one - having optimized code for your system/cpu
00:53.05grennonso gentoo raised awareness of that
00:53.17yacoobtrh, it's much overrated :)
00:53.28cynyryes it is...
00:53.33|Kev|trh: I've yet to see any convincing figures on that
00:53.33grennonand the quality of other distributions was raised as a side effect
00:53.37yacoobin fact, there are few places where recompiling brings speedup
00:53.38trhyacoob: yes.. the speed improvement isnt worth it
00:53.44|Kev|usually just "well, it feels quicker than mandrake to me"
00:53.47yacoobkernel, glibc, perhaps some Xlibs.
00:53.55nee-lapIs there a way to set a default font for WoW without Clearfont2?
00:53.58yacoob|Kev|, that's compensation of time you needed to see it :DDD
00:54.07cynyron the plus side.. i can install gentoo on just about anything i can get a C/C++ compiler for..
00:54.13trhyacoob: i still think the improvement is alot less cpu time than the compiling tooks ;)
00:54.35TheKarni used gentoo
00:54.42cynyrmost of the time i start a long install and then go to bed..
00:54.43yacoobtrh, the thing I see at my coworker's box - he spends more time taking care of the system, than actually using it.
00:54.56yacoobWeird situation, but perhaps some folks like it :D
00:55.06trhyacoob: thats a problem with linux in general IMO
00:55.06|Kev|I use gentoo, because I stupidly installed it on my gateway/fw/mail server, and now am stuck with it because I don't want the box going down
00:55.19yacoob(I did, when I was starting out, but it was around RH4.x I think :)
00:55.20nymbia|Kev|: lol
00:55.43yacoobtrh, that's why there are quite a lot unix folks switching to osx :D
00:55.57|Kev|I'm an osx user
00:56.05_neuron_|Kev|, been there :P, took it down and changed it to ubuntu about 6 months ago though ;)
00:56.06hasteI like osx, but I don't have the cash to buy myself a mac :)
00:56.14trhyacoob: osX is kind of nice.. but i do think the hardware is overpriced
00:56.14yacoobit just works of the box, isn't as retarded as it looks, and is quite flexible, ie. you can make it jump the way you want :)
00:56.24cynyr_neuron_: btw it looks like it was the xfce composte manager, and firefox
00:56.27yacoobhaste, with a bit of luck, you can launch it on standard pc
00:56.32|Kev|yacoob: dear choir, love preacher :)
00:56.41hasteyacoob: well, I'm not that attatched to it
00:56.42_neuron_cynyr, could be a xfce4 theme then, I seem to remember one of them having a bug a while ago
00:56.56hasteyacoob: I've used Gentoo the last four years or so, so I'm pretty happy with it
00:57.04yacoobI managed to launch my hackintosh, but my hw is pretty similar to apple's :D
00:57.06|Kev|and of course there's the great macaceupdater for it ;)
00:57.38grennonmeh, theres a flavor of linux for whatever kind of user you are
00:57.56hasteI hate recommending distros to others :(
00:57.58|Kev|I've tried a lot of them, and I'm more happy with OSX than any of them
00:58.01grennonunless your a nub with an ultrasparc or ppc, then your options are kind of limited
00:58.12grennonlike me
00:58.16hastehehe
00:58.23yacoobhaste, you can just throw facts at people, and it's up to them to juggle them :D
00:58.43hasteyacoob: I just introduce them to the normal once, if they ask me what to use I just tell them to try them all :p
00:59.11hasteyacoob: I'm a large of the use-what-you-like-idea :)
00:59.15grennoni work at a big power5+ shop, but we dont run linux on them
00:59.24grennonwhen we want linux we but intel because its cheaper
00:59.30grennonbuy*
00:59.38grennonprice/performance is better
00:59.48yacoob...but seriously, what I'd really want to test, is how ubuntu works out as a server.
00:59.53grennonbut our big system where cost is no object, those puppies are p5+
01:00.05_neuron_yacoob, well :P
01:00.05trhyacoob: i heard its nice
01:00.12_neuron_very low maintenance
01:00.20_neuron_which is what I want in a server ;)
01:00.21grennonyacoob: people have used debian for servers for a decade, im not sure why ubuntu would be different
01:00.37yacoobso far I was lucky to just get by with debian stable, but the long release cycle creates... problems :D
01:00.59yacoobbecause, each backport makes you worry about the otherwise good security upgrades
01:01.15grennonmost people just use testing
01:01.22yacoobworst choice ever :)
01:01.35yacoobunless there's separate security support for testing yet?
01:01.35Fisker-grennon !
01:01.43Fisker-Fix the -money collected thing :P
01:01.47Fisker-I get confused each time
01:01.54grennonfix it yourself, its gotta be easy
01:01.58Fisker-:(
01:02.06ZealotOnAStickgrennon: I know I can be a pest at times, but my questions/suggestions are because I'd like to see Postal end up as -THE- hands down, absolutely best no-questions mail mod= 9
01:02.26grennonZealotOnAStick: why, are you nagging me in the postal thread or something?
01:02.40trhZealotOnAStick: does it support the things ct_mailmod can do? :)
01:02.40grennonZealotOnAStick: i didnt realize you were being a pest
01:02.52Arrowmasteri just have testing and stable's security both added to my debian servers apt.conf, that way if theres a security version of something thats newer than testing it will use it
01:02.53nymbiapurl, pester grennon
01:02.54purlgrennon: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
01:03.07grennonnymbia: youll rue the day you crossed me
01:03.12nymbia;)
01:03.34Funkeh`nymbia leave that bot alone its got enough to deal with without you, nevermind with you
01:03.39nymbiarofl
01:03.47trhnymbia: that video is awesome
01:03.54Funkeh`<3 nymbia
01:04.48trhhttp://www.evilchili.com/mediaview/4919/Thank_You_A_Million_Times <- is the opposite also very nice :)
01:05.56Funkeh`anyway, away to bury my head in SGA ep17 i go
01:06.09trhhf
01:06.45Finsylvanaar: instead of using Prat_ModuleName all the way through the module code, would it be possible to do something like use Prat_TmpModule and then making Prat_ModuleName a copy of Prat_TmpModule?
01:07.14grennonZealotOnAStick: i think postal_blackbook has already made it better than any mailmod out there
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01:07.44ZealotOnAStickSorry, that was me vaccuuming my keyboard.
01:08.11ZealotOnAStickThat was from, like, yesterday, but I guess still in the buffer.
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01:10.56sylvanaarFin: Im not sure
01:12.06grennonif self.endmoney <= self.startmoney then return end
01:12.12evl/j
01:12.12evl#wowi-lounge
01:12.13Gnarfoz_http://www.nekothekitty.net/cusp/comics/040223.gif ;D
01:12.17grennonim raiding thaddius, but feel free to ninja commit it
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01:12.54sylvanaarFin: the modules have varying degrees of optimizations to limit the amount of code they have, just have a peek at them
01:13.27Finkk
01:14.21sylvanaarand they all are copies of the moduleprotype in Prat.lua
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01:14.43trhGnarfoz_: olol ,)
01:14.43ckknightso is the beta done now or what's the deal with that?
01:14.53Gnarfoz_done
01:14.54nymbiackknight: yeah.
01:15.00ckknight:-(
01:15.02grennonits dead jim
01:15.07PogoTribalSo
01:15.11ckknightI wanted to play some WoW
01:15.46PogoTribalAnyone an officer in a guild know of a good mailing mod? I have 16 officers to deal with and it's a real PITA
01:15.50grennontheres an easy quest for a special tabard on live, log in and god do it
01:16.08Kirkburn|afkDave, they're dead.
01:16.12Kirkburn|afkThey're dead, Dave.
01:16.19trhPogoTribal: pita?
01:16.25trhoh
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01:16.27trhi think i got it
01:16.27grennonmmmmmm.... pita
01:16.31Kirkburn|afkSo, I'm wondering how to install TBC
01:16.40grennonits already installed
01:16.48Kirkburn|afkShould I install base WoW?
01:16.51trhgrennon: i first though of that greek gyros filled bread thing ;)
01:16.57Kirkburn|afkNo, I want a clean install :)
01:17.10grennonremove old patchs
01:17.15grennonand there you go
01:17.17grennonclean
01:17.18PogoTribalDon't remove 2.0.3
01:17.22PogoTribalor you'll have to download it again
01:17.32Kirkburn|afkI have about 3 version of 2.0.3 patchers :P
01:17.43PogoTribaland there's no point to a "clean" install of a videogame, Blizzard just recommends it if you have problems because they know their code is shitty
01:17.53Kirkburn|afkyay for mixing up beta and 'real' patches ;)
01:18.10nymbiaKirkburn|afk: yeah, if you want a clean TBC then just get a clean wow.  all the expansion installer will add is expansion.mpq
01:18.13grennonthe repair tool kind of makes it obvious there isnt much point to a "clean install"
01:18.15Finsylvanaar: what I'd like is a template for starting a module that includes all the required stuff, but nothing else, and all I have to do is set the module name, description, and what events it hooks into to get started (and maybe slash commands?)
01:18.15_neuron_question, in Skinner, if I set "Bottom frame" to 100, and viewport 100 up, that's two completely different values, how do I get viewport exactly the same
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01:18.25grennonthere isnt much kruft in wow file wise
01:18.40Kirkburn|afkAnyone know if the TBC installer will patch from 1.x though?
01:18.45trhactually the wow client code is pretty good.. compared to lineage(2) and other mmorpgs :)
01:18.49sylvanaaryeah cause there are like 0 players on it
01:19.00sylvanaaro.O back buffer ftl
01:19.05grennonthe only kruft you get is old patchers/etc and some log files
01:19.09trhKirkburn|afk: i believe it wont patch, it'll just overinstall
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01:19.33grennoni mean, you can zip you wow directory, transfer it to another computer, unzip, and play wow
01:19.43grennontheres not a bunch of registry garbage to worry about
01:19.45nymbiaKirkburn|afk: /shrug.  might as well patch up anyway.. there's no difference between TBC and vanilla as far as pre-2.0 patches go.
01:19.50sylvanaarFin: just look at AddonMessages or EventNames they only do 1 thing each
01:20.22Kirkburn|afkI think I might download a 2.0.0 install
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01:21.17Finsylvanaar: I'm using AddonMessages at the moment :) that's why I asked about the renaming the variable thing earlier - because all through the file variables like Prat_AddonMsgs.varName = 'val' or whatever
01:21.34EyeOfHellbtw, anyone have links/torrent to US TBC release distrib ?
01:22.05CIA-1703grennon * r25037 10Postal/Postal_Rake/Postal_Rake.lua: Postal: -one line fix for negative cash flows
01:22.08Finsylvanaar: I thought it might be nice if you could just change one line in the file to set the name of the module, rather than replace "AddonMsgs" with "MyModule" in the file, is all :)
01:23.04sylvanaarFin: you can always say local l = OTherName
01:23.10Kirkburn|afkEyeOfHell, search a torrent site
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01:23.58proxieAnybody help me figure out how to use parameters in a chat command?
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01:24.03proxieI can't seem to figure out how to do it
01:24.10Kirkburn|afkAnnoying thing it, I'm going to have to reinstall once I get Vista anyway :P
01:24.15Kirkburn|afk*is
01:24.21trhproxie: with ace2?
01:24.28proxieyes sir
01:24.34SkorcherXhey any of you guys that were in beta... is there an uninstall for it.. or can i just delete the install dir.?
01:24.48sylvanaardeltree imo
01:25.11Kirkburn|afkArgh, the TBC torrent has no seeders
01:25.21trhproxie: you need aceconsole, and RegisterChatCommand({"/whatever"}, myOptionsStructure);
01:25.37proxietrh: got that much ... followed the tutorial
01:25.43proxiehere's where I get stuck.
01:25.54grennonPogoTribal: postal allows you to have a 20 person contact list
01:26.02proxiecan i paste 5 lines?
01:26.04grennonPogoTribal: should be good for guild banking
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01:26.25trhproxie: myOptionsStructure = { mycommand = { type="text", name="mycommand2", desc = "descriptions", usage="we", set="MyFunction", get=false, }
01:26.25FinOK I've just realised something about the code and it's confusing me aaarg aaaarg my brain hurts make it stop ow
01:26.28grennonPogoTribal: add your guild mules to the contact list, click the mule, then alt-click the items in your bag you want to to go to the mule
01:26.32grennonPogoTribal: and your done
01:26.57proxiehttp://ace.pastey.net/5060
01:27.20proxiei've tried to use the x, y, width, height parameters in the function
01:27.26proxiebut for some reason it thinks they're nil values?
01:27.37sylvanaarFin i think you only need to say local PRAT_MODULE = Prat:RequestModuleName("*") Prat_* = Prat:NewModule(PRAT_MODULE). That would get you on the menu
01:27.38trhproxie: in MyFunction you can then access the text from /whatever mycommand2 <mytext> with arg1 i think
01:27.40Finhuh, I figured that out all on my own! wish I'd known I could've just asked someone in here
01:28.07PogoTribalgrennon, thanks, I just want to send all of my officers a message
01:28.07ckknightKirkburn|afk: aren't you going to need the TBC key, though?
01:28.08sylvanaarFin: you have to add your module to the toc though
01:28.23PogoTribalcan it send the same message to those contacts?
01:28.52Kirkburnckknight, yeah, but I want to get an install ready to go :)
01:28.53trhproxie: try printing the values with self:Print(x, y, width, height);
01:29.20proxielet me try that.
01:29.21Finsylvanaar: yeah, I realised that when I was testing the stuff I did before :)
01:29.27KemayoHmm.  agUF now shows group anchors for groups even when they're closed.
01:29.37grennonPogoTribal: ohhhh
01:29.43Fincucumber
01:29.43grennonPogoTribal: tried real email?
01:29.50grennonPogoTribal: its great for that :-0
01:30.11grennonPogoTribal: sending multiple people the same text message is really something you should be doing outside wow
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01:30.38Sarozvhaarr
01:30.43kenlyric|homeKemayo: haha, that's a pretty funny bug.
01:30.44trhgrennon: actually those f*cking spammers do that also in wow
01:30.56Sarozvhaarr, nm
01:30.57kenlyric|homeI was just wondering what all these grey bars were.
01:31.10trhgrennon: and i wouldn't mind if i could send one item to more people instantly (dupeing;)
01:31.20grennontrh: yes they do, which is retarded since in game mail isnt good for actuall text correspondence
01:31.45trhgrennon: on our server they usually just spam their webaddress so people can buy gold there
01:31.53proxietrh: interesting .... they print out, but aren't working in the function. let me try something real quick.
01:31.58trhits very annoying... got up to 10 mails / day
01:31.58proxiethanks for the help.
01:32.04PogoTribalgrennon - in-game mail is the quickest way, my officers tend to check that before they check our forums
01:32.14trhproxie: try tonumber()
01:32.15FinI don't undertand it though, a lot of the time they mess up the URL itself as well
01:32.25Fina) there's automatic spam filters yet
01:32.44Finand b) do they really expect people to reconstruct the URL so it'll work when pasted into IE or whatever?
01:32.48proxietrh: another thing ...
01:33.00proxietrh: why when I do self:Print( x, y, width, height )
01:33.11proxieand then do /vp set 1 2 3 4
01:33.22proxieit prints out: 1 2 3 4 nil nil nil
01:33.23grennonPogoTribal: im game mail is one hour delivery
01:33.33proxiewhat are the extra nil's?
01:33.38grennonPogoTribal: its just weird they would actually use it to communicate
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01:33.42Smeltnso eepanels is JACKED
01:33.43trhproxie: then in x is the string "1 2 3 4" you need to extract the numbers out of that string
01:33.43Smeltndang it
01:33.54SmeltnI finally get my ui the way I want it...and eepanels is broke
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01:34.14ZealotOnAStickAhh.  Just gave my main system a nice, good cleaning.
01:34.15proxieah, i got ya. so x = "1 2 3 4"?
01:34.18Tulardoes bartender3 show cooldown counters?
01:34.18trhproxie: i do think there is a function to split the string by other string to a array
01:34.25trhproxie: but i dont know how it was called
01:34.52trhproxie: exactly
01:34.53proxiehmm, how can I find that?
01:35.00trhlua.org? =)
01:35.10art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui.jpg <-- my wow ui
01:35.29trhits .png :)
01:36.06trhart3mis: looks clean
01:36.32art3mishehe click again
01:36.38art3misi upped it to the wrong spot ;)
01:36.46trhlol ;)
01:37.05art3misand its only got 4 non wowace parts
01:37.08hastehaha, doing orb run now
01:37.16art3misbecause i cant find equivs in wowace ;P
01:37.22hasteand we pulled the whole first room inside scarlet, and the mini-boss :D
01:37.37trhhaste: sounds like you got no time :)
01:37.38haste+ the undead spawn that came in the middle of it all
01:37.55CIA-1703kagaro * r25039 10Talismonger-2.0/ (. Talismonger-2.0.toc): Talismonger-2.0: set externals
01:37.56haste5 groups and a mini-boss :p
01:38.09trhhaste: just get a hunter and bam bam it away ;)
01:39.09CIA-1703kagaro * r25040 10Talismonger-2.0/: Talismonger-2.0: added forgotten external
01:39.29hastetrh: don't have any :(
01:40.48PogoTribalart3mis: I want your monitor.
01:41.07PogoTribalart3mis: You know you can sort ag_UF raid frames by class now?
01:41.28trhPogoTribal: whats so special about it?
01:41.32PogoTribalAlso with your setup, I think growing the groups upward would be cleaner.
01:41.41PogoTribalWhat's so special is that his screen is huge.
01:41.57trhPogoTribal: not really.. i guess its a 20" with 16:9
01:41.59PogoTribalPriest healing at standard LCD resolution is very cluttered...
01:42.23PogoTribalCompared to 1280x1024, it's huge.
01:42.28CIA-1703kagaro * r25041 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.toc: Talismonger-2.0: fixed externals for revision
01:43.00PogoTribalWhat's his minimap mod?
01:43.10PogoTribalI'd like to take my minimap and put it somewhere else.
01:43.14trhPogoTribal: i got 2x 1280x1024 that is perfect :)
01:43.19Finooh I found a little bug in AddonMsgs
01:43.30art3misyeah i know but if i sort by class it wont lok as pretty
01:43.33TularI got baggins open, I select edit categories, now I dont see anyway to close the editor
01:43.52NightHawkTheSaneTular, scroll down in the window, there's a close button
01:43.57CIA-1703kagaro * r25042 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: helps if I added the propset on the .lua instead of the toc
01:43.58art3mishehe its a 21" viewsonic wide
01:44.04PogoTribalart: You could sort by class and have it grow upwards so that you don't have to move the groups every time another class joins?
01:44.09PogoTribalJust a suggestion, its' a clean setup anyways.
01:44.15Finwell, a protobug
01:44.15PogoTribalI always sort by class for raid healing.
01:44.18art3misyeah the grow upwards i have to mod
01:44.23Fina bug *in potentia*
01:44.34art3misbut if there are odd numbers for the class groups it wont look as edged
01:44.45[dRaCo]can I use aguf with sraidframes?
01:44.47art3misbut yeah i need to fix that ;)
01:44.52art3misused to use rdx.cid
01:45.04CIA-1703kagaro * r25043 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-locales.lua: Talismonger-2.0: removed extra locale file
01:45.10NargiddleyTular, scroll down on the category editor with the mousewheel
01:45.12art3misaguf needs a "fade on distance" option
01:45.28[dRaCo]there's a range check addon...
01:45.29art3misim running healeralpha for fading in that screenie
01:45.41art3misit works with aguf and smartbuff at the same time
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01:46.17art3misi need to find a new panel though
01:46.24art3misand hopefully someone will fix eepanels
01:46.26PogoTribalOdd numbers?
01:46.28art3misso i can ditch dart
01:46.36art3misyeah not a clean top edge
01:46.43art3misitll appwear jagged
01:46.54PogoTribalNot sure what you mean.
01:47.06art3miswell se how they're the same height?
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01:47.17art3misif i grow from the bottom based on class they wont be
01:47.29art3mislike 3 locks 6 tanks 5 priests 3 hunters
01:47.40[dRaCo]anyone who can answer 2 small question 'bout aguf?
01:47.41art3misitll change the top edge across the raid block
01:47.47PogoTribalWell, they're kinda buggered now with how the two in the middle have to be raised for the map buttons
01:47.57art3misyeah but its mostly even ;P
01:48.02PogoTribalYou're probably a little more anal than I am :)
01:48.06art3misitll be worse to grow up and sort by class
01:48.09art3misheh
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01:48.27[dRaCo]come on, just 2 lil questions :/
01:48.45art3misill prolly change it but since raiding isnt gonna be happening for a while it's a "will do for now" type thing
01:48.50art3misask away
01:49.03[dRaCo]can I use aguf with sRaidFrames?
01:49.05_neuron_[dRaCo], I never answer "can I ask a question" questions :P
01:49.08art3misyup
01:49.16art3misjust disable the showing of the raid frames in aguf
01:49.17[dRaCo]hey, i asked the questions before ;þ
01:49.23[dRaCo]but nobody answered
01:49.31_neuron_;)
01:49.38[dRaCo]which rangecheck addon is the one to use?
01:49.50[dRaCo]miles' or saim's version?
01:49.52stavmari am in BWL and i hid teh AGUF raid frames and all of a sudden my bug sack is filling faster than i have ever seen I am at 1000 bugs in 20 seconds, What am I doing wrong?
01:50.01hasteand then we're done
01:50.10PogoTribalag_UF has been kind of buggy with revisions as of late.
01:50.23PogoTribalI'm still holding onto the revision from like... 5 days ago
01:50.46_neuron_stavmar, stop having update madness and stick with the versions that work a while, svn will sometimes have code that isn't stable ;)
01:51.24art3misany range check will work
01:51.28NeeblerWould anyone happen to know what chat addon this is: http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myui2sw1.jpg
01:51.50PogoTribalUmm... a bad one?
01:52.03[dRaCo]aight, thanks
01:52.04PogoTribalThat looks like a whisper chat addon.
01:52.05_neuron_fancy but I doubt it's very usable :P
01:52.19HealthHEHE
01:52.20art3misits a pop im whisper catcher
01:52.24Healthhttp://85.230.26.4/img/DSC00011.JPG - was just at the RL portal
01:52.28art3miscant remember the name of it but its on wowinterface
01:52.43PogoTribalNice mini-map in that SS though... that's what I need.
01:52.46stavmarbleeding edge guy i guess? I will revert back.
01:53.22_neuron_which quest tracker is in http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myui2sw1.jpg?
01:53.25trhHealth: you get it on monday?
01:53.47art3misthat minimap is on wowinterface too ;P
01:53.49EyeOfHellhttp://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myui2sw1.jpg = WIM. Bad addon. Takes memory and CPU ;)))
01:53.53[dRaCo]is there anything like TellTrack for wow 2.0?
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01:54.35Healthtrh: 1 minute into thue
01:54.50_neuron_EyeOfHell, take it that's the whisper thing, not the quest tracker? :P
01:54.51trhHealth: ah.. so its the same release date as in the EU =)
01:55.02Eejman that UI has sooo many unnecessary elements :P
01:55.03trhHealth: or is it eu?
01:55.06PogoTribalhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5686-RicoMiniMap.html  It's RicoMiniMap
01:55.07HealthI'm in EU :p
01:55.08PogoTribalwoot
01:55.10art3mishehe mines pretty
01:55.12trhHealth: oh ^^
01:55.14FinWIM is awesome!
01:55.14PogoTribalYou wanna see my UI?
01:55.17art3misyup
01:55.26EyeOfHell_neuron_ : yep
01:55.29PogoTribalOk, don't make fun of me.
01:55.35trhHealth: the shops in my city don't open before 10am on tuesday
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01:55.45PogoTribalI don't have a 21" monitor
01:55.50HealthSucky!
01:55.55EyeOfHell_neuron_ : never has any clues abut what quest trackers is for ;((. Blizzard's own is pretty good
01:55.56_neuron_and I have yet to find a quest tracker that doesn't annoy the crap out of me
01:55.59Funkeh`nn folks
01:56.00PogoTribalhttp://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6150/desetaiuigq7.jpg
01:56.32art3miswow
01:56.32_neuron_EyeOfHell, well, monkeyquest for example highlights quests in the zones your in (based on data from questlog), and you can mouseover to get info on where you return it etc
01:56.35art3misthats really busy
01:56.39PogoTribalI moved a lot of the buttons off to the side and lowered my character frame.
01:57.21Eejwhat art3mis said
01:57.30EyeOfHellok, cya all. Good WoW to you ;)
01:57.45PogoTribalI'm used to it.
01:57.49PogoTribalBut I'm also a raid healer.
01:57.55art3misyeah
01:57.58PogoTribalMy DPS classes look much better.
01:58.01art3misdont really need to see whats going on
01:58.08trhPogoTribal: nice value on "dymonia" -489?
01:58.17Eejlike i do'nt get why you have the SWS window open in the middle of the screen, and the randomly floating action barson the bottom right :P
01:58.21Healthhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28585 - cool.
01:58.37trhPogoTribal: ah.. its health-fullhealth ;)
01:58.39PogoTribalMiddle of the screen?!
01:58.51PogoTribaltrh: yeah, deficit health
01:58.56PogoTribalNotice my ranks of healing buttons.
01:59.01trhPogoTribal: not used to that kind of stuff as a hunter :)
01:59.12PogoTribalOne thing that annoys me.
01:59.20Eejalso you have the micromenu showing for some unknown reason 8o
01:59.21PogoTribalNotice that Ninevolt is at -1491 on the target screen.
01:59.23art3mismmm clique
01:59.26art3misi lurv clique
01:59.30PogoTribalBut on the CTRA bar he's at =1505
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01:59.53PogoTribalMicromenu?
02:00.11PogoTribalIf I can replace that with a Fubar menu, I will
02:00.18_neuron_you can
02:00.22_neuron_fubar_micromenufu or something :P
02:00.25PogoTribalAnyways, the health difference really bugs me.
02:00.32PogoTribalI don't know why the health would be different.
02:00.53Eejall of those things are hotkeyed for me anyways, so i just hide the whole thing
02:00.56trhPogoTribal: i'd guess different times of reading it
02:00.59Eejwell, except for gm help, but i never ask for it
02:01.05Wogroipl\o/ down to 1 error when I log in
02:01.33PogoTribaltrh: That wouldn't' make too much sense though, because it's only a 14 health difference.
02:01.40Sparhawkethere is this small black bar in my AG Unit frames near my pet frame, I have no idea what its frome
02:01.41PogoTribalThose dogs don't hti for 14, they hit for 300.
02:01.44trhPogoTribal: maybe a dot or dmg aura?
02:01.58PogoTribalIt might be their rend debuff, but that's still more than 14.
02:02.03PogoTribalNinevolt has 8 stacked on him.
02:02.15AmadeoGrendel is on Sci-Fi, right now!!
02:02.19trhPogoTribal: strange thing
02:02.20PogoTribalSparhawke: It might be a castbar.
02:02.34PogoTribalSparhawke: See if Enabled Castbar is checked in your pet frame config.
02:02.47PogoTribalBut ag's castbars are kind fuct right now.
02:03.03PogoTribalThey'll fill in the whole unit frame on some windows even if not enabled.
02:03.22PogoTribalI'm gonna upload my interface when I'm not raiding.
02:05.09PogoTribalGah, stupid BLizz file format.
02:05.54Wogroiplw000t cleared the last error on log in :)
02:06.08Wogroiplforum searches ftw!
02:07.00WogroiplSparhawke: I have the same thing, turns out it is the group anchor
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02:07.42WogroiplSparhawke: it clears for me when I open the menu and hover over the group anchor option, no need to click
02:09.09PogoTribalhttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3936/desetaiuiwf2.jpg
02:09.15PogoTribalCleaned up a bit since the last shot.
02:09.29PogoTribalI need a way to remove that stupid Silithyst PvP crap from the top
02:10.28Smeltnsomeone needs to fix eepanels dang it
02:10.37Smeltnmy ui is set up perfect...except for eepanels
02:11.09Eejjust hide pvp objectives in interface option
02:11.16WogroiplSmeltn: I use Skinner, that can make those panels as well
02:11.30Smeltneww I forgot about that
02:11.43Smeltncan skinner make independant panels? or jsut a bottom and top?
02:11.58haste2100 AP as a rogue in a 5-man instance :<
02:12.08PogoTribalI still feel like my chat window is taking up too much space.
02:12.18Wogroiplit can make a bunch of seperate panels as well
02:13.30WogroiplSmeltn: check this, done with Skinner http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/Luqu/RaidUI.jpg
02:13.49PogoTribalIs there any reason to use Fubar_Plugin2.0?
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02:14.24CIA-1703rabbit * r25044 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Protect the Dire Maul buffs by default.
02:14.25PogoTribalSee that's more busy than my screen.
02:14.58Wogroiplyah, I changed the raidframes to Grid now
02:15.32Wogroipland I got rid of NeCB
02:16.08yacoobWogroipl, congratulations :P
02:16.10WogroiplI used to have bars pop up on mouseover for my totems
02:16.28Wogroiplmade it a lot less "full"
02:16.29PogoTribalI want to modify my tooltip.
02:16.40PogoTribalI wanna make it more compact, smaller font.
02:16.56Wogroipltried TinyTip?
02:18.59CIA-1703rabbit * r25045 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua Locale-enUS.lua Modules/Priest.lua): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Added Spirit Tap set for priests, thanks to Subxero for most of the code.
02:19.46kenlyric|homeheh. spirit tap set. Like there's any other set.
02:20.31art3mistinytip sucks
02:20.44art3misi hate that it doesnt have anchors you can drag around
02:20.53art3misand assumes that everyone enats them in the same places
02:20.53PogoTribalYeh I wasn't fond of Tinytip
02:21.04art3missearch for aftte
02:21.11art3misthats whats in mine
02:21.15PogoTribalaftte?
02:21.17vhaarrTinyTip rocks.
02:21.25vhaarrYou can anchor it just how you want it.
02:21.25art3misaf_tooltip extrasuper awesome version
02:21.30art3misno you cant
02:21.34vhaarrI can.
02:21.42art3misi takes the generic top bottom etc spots
02:21.55art3misand to anchor it on other places requires more effort than it needs
02:22.12kenlyric|homeheh... moving the anchor around the window is hard?
02:22.12art3misaftte you show the anchor drag the anchor where you want and yer done
02:22.16vhaarrThe only right way to anchor a tooltip is to the mouse anyway.
02:22.19Wogroiplso? you only have to do taht once
02:22.21art3misit doesnt have a drag anchor
02:22.29art3misthats what i hate about it
02:22.33WogroiplI agree with Vhaar :P
02:22.44art3misand why in gods name do i need 3 addons for something called "tiny tip"
02:22.47PogoTribalOh god damn.
02:22.52SkorcherXhow do i get rid of these little bars?
02:22.53SkorcherXhttp://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/1/13/f_WoWScrnSi_c5bdm_ff2e54c1.jpg
02:22.55PogoTribalI tried to increase the minimap sign with Rico
02:22.56art3misnah thats annoying when yer bored ;P
02:23.01PogoTribaland got an app error
02:23.12PogoTribalWhat the hell are those little bars Skorcher?
02:23.18SkorcherX????
02:23.27_neuron_those little bars is the latest ag_unitframes :P
02:23.33SkorcherXreally?
02:23.36_neuron_hide frames for raid/party and turn em back on and it'll look normal :P
02:23.39Wogroiplgroup anchors I think
02:23.45SkorcherXthank you so much
02:23.45_neuron_or revert to a version that works properly :P
02:23.48_neuron_np ;)
02:23.53Finsylvanaar: would you mind looking over this module template, please?
02:23.58PogoTribalOr come on here and yell at ag` once in a while.
02:24.07art3mishehe as soon as the aguf menu command went away i stopped updateing aguf
02:24.37_neuron_just use the fubar menu :P
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02:24.44SkorcherXalright back in business
02:24.46SkorcherXthank you
02:25.03Wogroipl:")
02:25.05_neuron_granted an option to do /modname menu to auto open the menu fubar would open would be nice :P
02:25.30CIA-1703rabbit * r25046 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Syntax error.
02:25.32kenlyric|homeit's all the same menu.
02:25.53_neuron_kenlyric|home, I know, but a generic option for people not using fubar (yes I know, they should just be using fubar instead :P )
02:25.58Finsee the menu... BE the menu
02:26.17Finthe menu is all
02:26.49PogoTribalHOw would I copy my SWStats settings across all my characters?
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02:28.14Wogroiplcopy the savedvariables.lua across characters?
02:28.19phyberany of the people who run svn.wowace mirrors awake?
02:29.28Fisker-Noone seen some cartographer_quests data over blood elves start area?
02:30.08CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r25047 10MCP-QQ/MCP/MCP.lua: MCPMCP-QQ: Replaced the regular EnableAddon (the check box) with one that enables the addon , all optdepts, and all items listed as X-Embeds.
02:30.37Industrial\ >_< /
02:31.09Sparhawkewhat happeend to dooldown numbers in Bartender? :(
02:31.12Sparhawkecooldown*
02:31.22_neuron_the dooldowns numbers went byebye
02:31.29_neuron_because they were broke and eating resources (get omnicc instead)
02:31.37Finsylvanaar: oh! I don't suppose you could add another couple of quick changes to MCP while you're at it? just to wrap the tooltips and make the frame moveable by default?
02:31.53Fisker-MCP-QQ sylvanaar ?
02:31.54Fisker-:D
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02:32.03Fisker-The cry more edition?
02:33.17PogoTribalHmm...
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02:33.37PogoTribalAny way to make the FuBar menu work "behind" other frames?
02:33.58PogoTribalI'm collecting my FuBar stuff to the left side with two bars, but I can't click on things that I put "behind" the bars in the top-right of the screen
02:34.51CIA-1703totalpackage * r25048 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
02:34.51CIA-17Cellular
02:34.51CIA-17- fixed a bug caused by last revision
02:34.56sylvanaaryeah, because people used to cry that it broke wau cause its just in my branch for developer use not my mod
02:35.41NargiddleyPogoTribal, you can resize fubar. drag from the very edge
02:36.35_neuron_damn... /me didn't know that Nargiddley
02:38.26art3misoh my sweet lord this grendel thing is horrible
02:39.14art3misgo leech beowulf instead
02:39.20art3misat least thier accents are proper
02:40.58kenlyric|homesigh... why do features have to disappear randomly? ;)
02:42.48Andunesylvanaar:  just wanna give kudos to you and other prat authors for great tooltip help.  Wish all mods did as good as prat in that department.  It helps a ton  :)
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02:43.12grennonFisker-: okay, i tested the change i committed earlier, it no longer reports losses
02:43.22art3missyl makes prat?
02:43.38art3miscuz there needs to be a "make settings active for all channels" button
02:44.12Fisker-cool, thanks grennon :P
02:44.20Andune18:43 [wowace] kenshin> grep X-Credit Prat/Prat.toc
02:44.20Andune## X-Credits: Sylvanaar, [snip]
02:46.22art3misnwea
02:46.24art3misneat
02:46.46sylvanaarmake what settings active for all channels?
02:46.54art3misprat stuff
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02:47.07Neeblerhttps://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/ Who feels a bottleneck coming up soon?
02:47.21art3misthers a couple of options that you need to set on each and ever channel
02:47.24sylvanaarthey do
02:47.36Sparhawkeso I now need a cooldown number on my bartender buttons
02:47.38Sparhawkewhat mod will do that
02:47.40sylvanaarsome of em
02:48.08art3misbut still ia gree good job opn the addon
02:48.10art3mison
02:48.10Andunesparhawke: I thought Bartender3 had built-in cooldowns...  but if not, try OmniCC
02:48.14Sparhawkeits gone
02:48.21art3misits got cooldown just not countered
02:48.28art3miserr counted
02:48.43art3misit does the standard grey go around the clock thingy
02:48.53Anduneah.
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02:49.14Andunewell I use Bongos and OmniCC, works great.  I presume OmniCC works with BT3 as well, but can't say I've tried.
02:49.17art3misomni is good though
02:49.24Sparhawkewhy would you get rid of it?
02:49.28_neuron_omnicc does work
02:50.11Sparhawkesadly its not on the SVN
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02:51.41vid`yea omni works fine
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02:51.47vid`ive used omni with BT3 since BT3 came out
02:52.05WogroiplSparhawke: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4836-OmniCooldownCount.html
02:52.51kenlyric|homesometimes the modularization just goes too far ;)
02:53.06kenlyric|homeA bar mod without cooldown counts is like a bowling ball without a liquid center.
02:53.32Wogroiplnice analogy
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02:54.05Sparhawkeso silly why that was taken away in Bartender
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02:55.03fleetfootCheck the changelog, i think he mentioned bugs and bad performance
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02:56.01Finbowling balls have liquid centres!?
02:56.10bverumm there appears to be a bug with aguf: aUFgroupAnchorparty:Show() is enabled by default, but when you look at the Show Group Anchor option, its unchecked.
02:56.30bverits just backwards :P
02:57.41kenlyric|homeFin. It's a simpsons reference. "A boy without mischief is like a bowling ball without a liquid center"
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03:00.00XandAnyone getting a wierd bug with AG unit frames.  When you log in, the party anchor is in a wierd spot then goes back to normal after adjusting the party options.
03:00.12CIA-1703nymbia * r25049 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Add Consumable.Food.Edible.Combo
03:01.00Finoh! thank you for explaining that
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03:01.57GuillotineXand: <bver> umm there appears to be a bug with aguf: aUFgroupAnchorparty:Show() is enabled by default, but when you look at the Show Group Anchor option, its unchecked.
03:02.38Guillotineoh, the position of the anchor, not whether or not its showing. nevermind
03:02.53bverxand: yes
03:03.36bverwell the position seems fine to me, at least for where i have my party frame at
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03:06.08zoinkgood morning...i'm missing the cooldowns feature since switching to the newest version of bartender 3
03:06.16XandYeah...something changed from the last build I had and the recent one.
03:06.33XandIt fixes itself when I mouse through the options.
03:06.46zoinkis there a way to pop them up again?
03:06.58XandHe took it out
03:07.06bveromnicc
03:07.10XandGet OmniCC or Cooldowncount.
03:07.24XandCooldowncount is Ace, but I never used it.
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03:07.49zoinkwill it show the cooldown directly on the button in the bar?
03:09.40NightHawkTheSaneOmniCC will put the cooldown number right on the action button
03:10.15Industrialer, wrong channel
03:10.20Industrialno
03:10.33Industriallol >_> </3 arrow up
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03:10.38Industrial~emulate Industrial
03:10.39purland now I'm high o/
03:10.46zoinkhmm k thx i will try
03:10.52Neebler~emulate #wowace
03:10.58Industrial~emulate Industrial
03:10.59purlDIY!
03:11.04Industrial\o/
03:12.07Neebler~emulate mikma
03:12.08purlLeialyn is an assclown.
03:15.20ThraeAnything amazing in patch 2.0.4?
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03:15.37grennoncappuchino machines
03:15.41grennonnew eng schematic
03:15.49CodayusThey fixed the raid tab so you can promote and kick people?
03:15.53ThraeHaha, I'd buy that
03:15.56Trancermyeah, goblin, I am gnomish and I *need* cappucino, now!
03:16.16CodayusHmm, I dunno, seems more gnomish to me.
03:16.43Trancerthey call, it coffee, with a bite, explosive coffee :o
03:17.06Tranceranyway, let's give in to sleep ;o nn
03:17.16Neeblerhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6513-GridStatusHots.html
03:17.17Neeblersexah
03:18.03Kirkburn~coconuts
03:18.04purlI've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said!
03:20.53Finsurprisingly difficult to type with one hand
03:21.22Neeblerso dont get your hand caught in the garbage disposal!
03:21.23TainPoor kittens
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03:24.08Fisker-oh snap :(
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03:24.13Fisker-I'm a arrogant idiot :/
03:24.24Fisker-an*
03:28.14GuillotineQuestion about CandyBars: Is there any way to dynamically start CandyBar timers via a script/macro (e.g. so I don't have to write a full addon)
03:29.57NightHawkTheSaneTheoretically, probably. But it'd be rather verbose, it'd be much less annoying to just write a simplistic addon to reduce to some basic commands and handle positioning and such for you.
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03:30.49Guillotineok. Guess I better start learning how to use Ace :P
03:33.34art3miswhats the song in the trailer for smokin' aces?
03:39.31Fisker-sylvanaar
03:39.33Fisker-prat broke it
03:39.38grennonalright, so different postal modules could conceivably conflict, like someone hitting openall and then hitting open selected
03:39.52grennonso what if i just had a frame that was setall points to the mailframe in the postallib
03:40.12grennonand when a module started doing exclusive work, it calls that frame up to protect the user from himself
03:40.18grennonand screens the mailframe
03:41.16Aileen_anyone else using prat notice that online notifications seem to be showing up now like:  [Foo has come online.  (stray bracket)
03:41.28Aileen_I assume it's prat doing it anyway..
03:41.32vhaarr~seen toadkiller
03:41.35purltoadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-178-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16h 4m 40s ago, saying: 'well in that case jsut cut & paste it'.
03:42.48Neebler~seen tristan
03:42.50purltristan <i=tristan@ppp120-43.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 171d 53m 44s ago, saying: 'it's tomcat tomcat-5.5.17-r1 running under gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 with sun jvm 1.5.0_07-b03'.
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03:44.05neurotechDoes anyone use the Aperture addon?
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03:46.55Fisker-any addon that times swings?
03:47.27hastenp: Yoshihisa Hirano and Hideki Taniuchi - Death note
03:47.29GuillotineAlright, this is probably a stupid question, but where can I download the individual libraries? The SVN seems to be down or not working
03:48.02Neeblerhttp://www.wowace.com/files/!!!StandaloneLibraries/!!!StandaloneLibraries-r24912.zip
03:48.21Guillotineah, ty :)
03:48.27Wobinoh man
03:48.29Wobinhttp://www.knitemare.org/cats/killsuperman6sr6su.jpg
03:48.32Wobin^^
03:49.00ZealotOnAStick!seen KarlThePagan
03:49.11ZealotOnAStick~seen KarlThePagan
03:49.14purlkarlthepagan is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 58m 17s) #wowace (6h 58m 17s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 4h 50m 18s, last said: 'can't do that'.
03:49.19Industrialfirst time I listen to drum&bass and get a kick from it
03:49.43Industrial6am cant sit still '
03:50.35IndustrialWobin: awww SQUEEZE :D
03:52.35ckknighthow to get America to switch to metric:
03:52.43ckknightrename kilometer to "freedom mile"
03:52.57ckknightthere, all taken care of.
03:53.02NightHawkTheSane.. im not sure if you should be slapped for that or not.
03:53.17neurotechhahahaha
03:53.27neurotechthat's awesome ckknight
03:53.36Fisker-it's funny because it's true
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03:56.37vhaarrhah, yeah
04:00.56Fisker-Does anyone know if chronometer supports judgements?
04:01.14KarlThePaganZealotOnAStick, sup?
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04:04.38ZealotOnAStickSo, playing with Grouper . . .
04:04.55ZealotOnAStickI'm wondering if the 1, 2, 3, 4 before the options in the Dewdrop menu are supposed to be black?
04:05.16ZealotOnAStickMakes 'em darn hard to see on the skinner-altered dewdrop menus.
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04:06.09CIA-1703rophy 07CombatLogScribe * r25050 10ParserLib/ (CombatLogScribe.toc GlobalStrings.lua core.lua gs_table.lua):
04:06.09CIA-17CombatLogScribe
04:06.09CIA-17- Updated 2.0.3 GlobalStrings.
04:06.09CIA-17- Ambiguous patterns are automatically detected.
04:06.17neurotechDoes anyone use the Aperture addon?
04:07.02tlundneurotech: why do you care?
04:07.02Thorgardneurotech, yup.
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04:07.53Neeblerok now the question: Click2Cast or Clique?
04:08.32ZealotOnAStickWhichever you like better.
04:09.07NeeblerI haven't tryed either
04:09.12neurotechThorgard, what does it do?
04:09.26Thorgardneurotech, changes your viewport.
04:09.37ZealotOnAStickI used clique first because C2C wasn't out yet, and it was pretty simple to set up, and have stuck with it.
04:09.40NeeblerI'm curious because i'm rerolling a warlock, and didn't want to have to try each
04:09.44neurotechI dont understand, what is the viewport?
04:09.57ZealotOnAStickI think C2C can do a couple of things with direct bindings that Clique -might- not do.  Not sure on that point.
04:10.08zoinkadd cooldown count 2 bartender 3 again plz...good night ;)
04:10.13Thorgardneurotech, it lets you pick how much of your screen you want the actualy WoW 3D world to be rendered on.
04:10.22neurotechahhh ok
04:10.23Neeblerthanks for the info zealot
04:10.43KarlThePaganZealotOnAStick, ah yea... well i meant for them to not be noticed
04:11.02KarlThePagani wanted the statuses to be shown in order but it's funny with the simpler menu option that i used there
04:11.12ZealotOnAStickOh, then it makes rather more sense then, and, never mind.
04:11.18neurotechThorgard, so i could use it to have wow take two thirds of my screen, keeping the first third for cooldown bars etc..?
04:11.20KarlThePaganwell i should fix it ;)
04:11.34Thorgardneurotech, exactly.
04:11.36KarlThePaganfyi grouper doesn't yet seem to work with the autojoin system
04:11.36ZealotOnAStickHowever, other question - should there be multiple fubar icons for it?
04:11.39neurotechhmm
04:11.48neurotechhow do you use it Thorgard?
04:11.49KarlThePagani think the blizzard frame is overwriting my settings
04:12.00KarlThePaganthere's 1 icon per state and flashing icons and such
04:12.13KarlThePaganthe old box-style ones can go away tho... the new ones are all fish
04:13.00ZealotOnAStickOk.  That's a yes then.
04:13.08Thorgardneurotech, download it, start WoW, /aperture bottom 160 will give you 160px empty space at the bottom of your screen.
04:13.09KarlThePaganyea do they make sense?
04:13.12ZealotOnAStickThe first one I saw was a coolish sort of crossed swirlies thing?
04:13.24KarlThePaganheh
04:13.33ZealotOnAStickAnd I reloaded and noticed it was different, and didn't know if it was intended or not.
04:13.38neurotechThorgard sorry I mean how do you have it setup on your machine?
04:13.44ThorgardOh.
04:13.55ZealotOnAStickUhm, honeslty, for me, they're small enough I can't tell quite what they are really.  I might be able to with my contacts in, but not with my glasses.
04:13.55KarlThePaganwell it automatically moves you from DND to OK after 3 minutes (unless you set it to DND)
04:14.06KarlThePaganprobably also depends on resolution
04:14.09Thorgardneurotech, I cut off 160 pixels of the bottom of my screen and set up the chat/bars and other stuff down there.
04:14.14KarlThePaganmaybe i should put the simpler icons back as an option
04:14.19KarlThePaganbrb i need to reboot
04:14.21neurotechRegarding the WowAceUpdater, what does it mean under Install/Update Marked Addons>With / Without Externals
04:14.32neurotechok Thorgard cool
04:15.13ZealotOnAStickok, makes more sense now as I'm playing with it.
04:16.10kagaro~seen Chinku
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04:17.09kagaro~seen dafire
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04:21.00neurotechWhat castingbars do you guys use?
04:21.10ilifinag_UF builtin!
04:21.20neurotechhmm
04:22.01ZealotOnAStickeCB, myself with mECB.  CBRipoff is also good.
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04:25.58CodayusIceHUD's casting bar.
04:26.46NightHawkTheSanei use eCB
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04:28.42PogoTribalok now
04:28.48PogoTribaltime to actually see the server time lol
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04:43.40PogoTribalBananabar needs a FuBar plugin
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04:58.42VII|Beherithi all
04:58.45kdulzoCan someone tell me something about eePanels -- are other frames "lockable" into a panel, or are they just background eye candy?
04:58.45VII|Beheritanyone here?
04:59.08VII|Beheritaguf... i always see the anchors for party / raid even if i am in none
04:59.12VII|Beheritis this bug or my fault?
04:59.17vhaarrbug
04:59.28VII|Beheritmhm
04:59.39VII|Beheritso no way to get it away currently?
05:00.50VII|Beheritk thx for the info. off again ;)
05:02.31PogoTribalI can't find the raid windows fix on WoWI
05:02.55kdulzoAnyone around who uses eePanels?
05:05.57nymbiaPogoTribal: you dont need it with 2.0.4
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05:12.51PogoTribalIt's fixed now?
05:14.02PogoTribalAhh nice.
05:14.17ckknightwho was going on yesterday about buying a game card over the internet?
05:14.39nymbiackknight: i dunno
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05:14.58nymbiackknight: you could just activate your account in the non-gamecard fashion
05:15.14ckknightnah, don't want it to show up on the credit card
05:15.27sergioyou need a place to buy a gamecard online?
05:15.56ckknightyep
05:16.02ckknightpreferably through paypal
05:16.05sergioyou want it emailed?
05:16.10ckknightin such a way where they don't fuck me out of my email
05:16.14ckknightout of my money*
05:16.21ckknightyea, that'd work, sergio
05:16.24CIA-1703fatherjim * r25052 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):
05:16.24CIA-17loudmouth:
05:16.24CIA-17- Update with lots of help topics to help users understand how the AddOn works.
05:16.36ckknightI feel like playing WoW, is all
05:16.37Smeltnso whats up with the aguf group bug
05:16.57sergiowell, I know a lot of people in this channel are using https://gamersloot.net/catalog/ but I haven't ordered with them because i couldn't cancel my gamestop order in time so I have to wait for ups on tuesday
05:17.11sergiothey seem legit and have forums with staff that answer questions
05:17.18ckknightokay then
05:18.14ckknightanyone want me to put them down as the referral?
05:18.16ckknightsergio>?
05:18.41sergiowhat do they ask
05:18.44sergioemail?
05:18.50ckknightHow did you hear about us?
05:18.53ckknightyea, email, it seems
05:19.21ckknight(members email if refered by a member)
05:19.32sergiodo you use a free email service they seem to not like that
05:19.41sergioi've been browsing their forums a lot
05:19.45ckknightgmail
05:19.52sergioyeah they might reject you
05:20.03ckknightthat'd suck
05:20.05ckknight:-(
05:20.06sergiothey're anal about fraud
05:20.33sergiocheck their forums before paying anything
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05:22.03ckknightwhat's the link to their forums?
05:22.11ckknightah, nvm
05:22.18Kaeltenwell guys the new server for wowace is installed at the datacenter.
05:22.21CIA-1703rabbit * r25053 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: If we get more than 10 errors per second, automatically turn off error grabbing and unregister all events for 10 seconds and notify the user of this.
05:22.23vhaarrckknight: ^
05:22.26Kaeltennow the config ....
05:22.26Kaeltenlol
05:22.35vhaarrckknight: Reasonable?
05:22.49ckknightvhaarr: hrm, I guess so, seems fine
05:22.52grennonrefurbed emachine running beos
05:23.16Kaeltenlol
05:23.27ZealotOnAStickBeOS rocked.  :/
05:23.36ZealotOnAStickI was so annoyed when they folded.
05:23.40Kaeltenat the time it was pretty cool
05:23.57sergioI think the whole do not use a free email service applies if they can't call you
05:23.59NightHawkTheSaneit still is pretty cool..
05:24.01sergioi'm not sure
05:24.04grennonit was cool if you didnt like browsing the web or playing games
05:24.06sergioit would be wise to make a thread and ask
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05:24.10sergiobefore paypaling
05:24.33ZealotOnAStickwhat kind of hardware improvements will the new server have over the current, Kaelten?
05:25.01Kaeltenits a amd 4200+ dual core.
05:25.24Kaelten2gb ram
05:25.30Kaeltenand a 100MBit port
05:25.44ZealotOnAStickWhat, no gigabit ethernet?  
05:25.48Kaeltenhehe
05:26.07Kaeltenwe'll hopefully never use up the 100MB port, at least not soon
05:26.38vhaarr... WoW doesn't have IsEventRegistered?
05:26.55vhaarrAce ftw.
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05:26.58Kaeltenvhaarr: don't think so.
05:26.58Kaeltenlol
05:27.27grennon100Mb comes out to around 12MB
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05:28.03grennonwowace traffic is small bursts, just a lot of them
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05:28.18Industrialwoah! drum & bass + jazz + saxophone
05:28.20JoshBorkeKaelten: ping
05:28.21Fisker-why do that vhaarr ?
05:28.30vhaarrFisker-: Do what?
05:28.44Fisker-Turn off error grabbing at 10 errors per second?
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05:29.04KaeltenJosh_Borke: sup?
05:29.04cynyrwait, did i see something about a new wowace server?!
05:29.10ZealotOnAStickI've got dual-core 4400+  64 on my main machine, though it's an older one, not the new form factor.
05:29.14JoshBorkeKaelten: any news on Combine?
05:29.15Kaeltencynyr: ya. :P
05:29.17vhaarrFisker-: Because apparently if you're in AV, in combat, when someone new joins the battle, you get an infinite stream of errors, and it locks up the UI.
05:29.22cynyrKaelten: /cheer!!
05:29.29KaeltenJoshBorke: not yet, sorry :(
05:29.31Fisker-ouch vhaarr ;/
05:29.33IndustrialZealotOnAStick: o_O
05:29.42Industrialmeh I have a 3800+ :P
05:29.50Kaeltenthe old box was a 2800+ single core
05:30.06Fisker-have you ordered the new server yet?
05:30.34KaeltenFisker-: ya its already installed
05:30.36Fisker-:(
05:30.48Industrialim so digging this dum&bass
05:30.51KaeltenFisker-: ?
05:30.57ZealotOnAStickIndustrial: when I specced my new machine in late february, I spent a lot, but I wanted something that would scream, and last a bit.
05:31.12Fisker-Nothing really, just want to donate here when TBC gets out
05:31.21Fisker-want to be sure i have finances settled
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05:31.30Kaelten:) its appriciated
05:31.41Fisker-But i hoped it could be used towards a new server :P
05:31.44Gnancygood eve all
05:31.59KaeltenFisker-: there are continued costs with the new server so it will be :P
05:32.04CIA-1703rabbit * r25055 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: BugSack: Make sure the addon action events are unregistered if we have the filter on.
05:32.08IndustrialZealotOnAStick: I spent about 1500 euros, hope itl last a while :P (2gb ram, 250gb disk, 9700GT)
05:32.11Fisker-of course :P
05:32.26Industrial7900* :S
05:32.35Fisker-i was like
05:32.40Fisker-15000 euros huh?
05:32.42Fisker-:P
05:35.30markvhow much does 1500 euros translate in to real money?
05:35.44Kaelten~2200 US
05:35.46ZealotOnAStickLessee, my machine cost the rough equivalent of 2630 euros.
05:35.55ZealotOnAStickwww.xe.com
05:36.22CodayusA good playlist helps make a bad instance run so much more tolerable.
05:36.23markvjesus
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05:36.43markvjust those 3 items cost the 1500 euros?
05:36.47markvor a full system?
05:37.00ZealotOnAStickKaelten: on current rates, ~$1978
05:37.08Industrialfull system
05:37.26markvwith a monitor?
05:37.40KaeltenZealotOnAStick: I just assume 1.5 conversion ratio most of the time.
05:37.44Industrialah i forgot to name alot of things
05:37.46Industrialyes
05:38.05markvi'm assuming like a 21" fp ws?
05:38.14IndustrialCan anyone tell me why I dont see any frames on my screen? http://industrial.pastey.net/5064
05:38.20Industrial19" fp
05:38.29ckknightsergio: okay, ordered it up, left an alternate email address in the comments, so should be all good
05:38.35Industrial4ms refresh rate :P
05:38.48markvyeah welcome to the world of make believe refresh rates
05:38.56KaeltenIndustrial: I got one of those paid 230 US for it
05:39.20markvmy motto is as long as you don't see it ghosting you're a-ok
05:39.53ZealotOnAStickmarkv: mine was ~3400 no monitor.
05:40.06ckknightalright, looks like I need to collect 15 USD in donations.
05:40.15Industrialckknight: ?
05:40.21ckknightIndustrial: I wanna get TBC
05:40.26Industriallol.
05:40.27markvcrazy
05:41.16Thrae75 euros, wait, let me convert that into US dollars...hmm...$321 dollars a month?!?!
05:41.38sergiockknight cool
05:41.43ckknightIndustrial: you steal 75 euros a month from taxpayers?
05:41.47ckknightfor shame.
05:41.49Industrialhttp://www.google.com/search?q=75+euros+to+dollars
05:41.49ZealotOnAStickBut Athlon XP 64 4400+, 2 150GB WD Gaming HDs (10k rpm, 12MB cache each) in RAID-0, dual 7800 GTXs in SLI, 2GB performance paired dual channel DDR, and other miscellanous bits.
05:42.03Industrialyeah but im supposed to pay part of my school money with it
05:42.18ckknightThrae: I got it, actually.
05:42.20poptixany rogues around?
05:42.20sergioI wish someone would leak the TBC enUS isos
05:42.21cynyrick "AID 0"
05:42.21ckknightwasn't amused.
05:42.26sergioI want to install it
05:42.27vhaarrAll european students get money to attend school.
05:42.29Fisker-sure poptix
05:42.32ckknightsergio: same
05:42.33markvraid 0 = failsauce
05:42.41poptixFisker-: did imp sap always return you to stealth, even if you missed?
05:42.44Fisker-err vhaarr  ?
05:42.50cynyrit's not raid... the R is for redundant
05:42.56ZealotOnAStickI wanted performance, not redundancy.  I have a network drive for data storage.
05:43.07Fisker-Well poptix before it only had 90% successrate
05:43.16Fisker-so i guess that it is now 100% and will do it regardless
05:43.22poptixFisker-: right
05:43.31Industrialanyway, One frame is supposed to look like this: http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8084/wowscrnshot011407073914tu6.jpg
05:43.34sergiothere's enGB isos apparently but who knows if they're legit
05:43.34Industrial( in the middle)
05:43.49poptixbeta client works fine for TBC
05:43.49grennonraid1 is fine for wow
05:43.50Fisker-of TBC?
05:43.54sergioyes
05:44.01Fisker-wtb
05:44.01sergioon TPB
05:44.01markvperformance for what? so your game loads half a second faster?
05:44.01grennon2x read performance, you dont need 2x write for wow
05:44.20vhaarrFisker-: what?
05:44.38Fisker-Not all european countries pay for their students to attend school i believe
05:44.47Azurewraththe torrent on TPB is broken atm, no seeders.. but you can just download the beta client, patch it up and edit the realmlist.wtf
05:44.59vhaarrmeh, scandinavian countries and the netherlands then, who cares
05:45.05Fisker-hehe
05:45.11Azurewrathi'm playing with the beta client on the current live realms.. i'm 99% sure it will work with retail TBC.
05:45.12vhaarrscandinavia > *
05:45.14Fisker-scandinavia rules :P
05:45.17grennonits not free sometimes
05:45.19Fisker-oh we agree?
05:45.21Fisker-irony
05:45.23sergioAzurewrath: i think most of us know that but I want the isos because I'm anal
05:45.25grennonfinland you serve in the military for a year
05:45.31grennonso its not "free"
05:45.32ckknightAmerica owns the moon!
05:45.46vhaarrgrennon: Norway also has obligatory military service.
05:45.53cynyrgrennon: germany is the same AFAIK
05:45.54ckknightgrennon: also, the majority of your income goes to taxes, which is far from "free"
05:45.57AzurewrathGermany has.. err... Beer!
05:46.04Josh_Borkenn all
05:46.11Fisker-same as Denmark, although you can be lucky in the lottery
05:46.12vhaarrgrennon: And it costs the government a minimum of 300k NOK per person to keep them in the service 1 year.
05:46.14ckknightAzurewrath: yea, but it's actualy "Bier", which is actually different.
05:46.40Fisker-I dislike bier
05:46.46Azurewrathckknight: thanks, i know how to spell it in my mothers tongue ;)
05:47.04vhaarrckknight: We pay more taxes, but our salaries are higher as well.
05:47.07ckknightah, Azurewrath's foreign!
05:47.07poptixthere was a blue post about using the TBC client on live
05:47.11ckknightterr'ist!
05:47.19Azurewrathpah
05:47.19poptixit boiled down to 'it will probably work, but we wont support it'
05:47.22Fisker-you called?
05:47.39Fisker-poptix was changed to "GTFO uninstall NOW!"
05:47.58poptixexactly =)
05:48.13poptix'oh shit, did we just say it'll work on live? we meant delete it ASAP'
05:48.33Azurewrathi was still playing with the EU Beta Client since 2 months ago or something.. always worked fine. :)
05:49.06sergioyeah it'll probably work
05:49.19sergiobut like I said I'm anal about these things
05:49.24sergioi have to have the upgrade from the cd
05:49.29sergioor i'll twitch
05:49.42sergiothen have a seizure
05:50.09sergio(i kid, i kid)
05:50.34Azurewrathwell.. i'll get my cd on release date by mail.. but why not prepare the Client already.. this way i just have to upgrade my account and play
05:50.35CIA-1703nymbia * r25056 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: temporarily disable TradeskillFrame and CraftFrame event unregistering... where's that data hiding?
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05:51.14sergiothat was the whole idea about qqing about no one leaking the enUS isos
05:51.17sergioshrug
05:51.55sergioI wanted everything neat and ready for when i get my cdkey so I can just upgrade my account
05:51.57sergioand go play
05:52.25NightHawkTheSaneand zone in to ten thousand other people doing the same thing? I'm debating if i even want to log in for a week. :P
05:52.55sergiowouldn't be the first time
05:53.16sergioi playing on archimonde when there was a 2 day downtime at retail
05:53.19Azurewrathsergio: as i said, just prepare your beta client.. i'll work for sure. I play with the TBC Beta Client on live servers atm.
05:53.30sergioI don't have the beta client
05:53.36sergioI haven't touched it since alpha
05:53.39Azurewrathwell, download it :)
05:53.45sergiono it's dirty
05:53.53sergiosee references to me being anal
05:53.56sergioand wanting the retail isos
05:54.12poptixyou want some dirty maybe fake isos you downloaded off a warez site
05:54.21poptixinstead of the actual client from blizzard
05:54.22poptixgotcha
05:54.56sergiogotcha!
05:55.39sergioi'm not going to get into a stupid debate about fake isos and what not but if you have good sources there's hardly any risk
05:56.07Azurewrathinteresting.. anyone got a US Key already? ;) https://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/
05:56.20sergiothat's been up for a while
05:56.23Azurewraththe EU site still displays a countdown :/
05:58.22ckknightsergio: holy hell that guy had a thick accent
05:58.34ckknightcrazy foreigners
05:58.58sergiockknight does he? they said their EU keys are french so I guessed they were french but who knows
05:59.09ckknightI sensed Danish
05:59.22ckknightor German or Swedish or something
05:59.28Fisker-w argh?
05:59.33ckknighteither Scandinavian or Central European
06:00.22Fisker-so they can start play TBC now or what?
06:00.40[Cu]WerikThey can play Diablo3 right now Fisker-..
06:00.45Fisker-nice
06:01.01ckknightdude, I've been playing D3 for over a year now, pshaw.
06:01.32[Cu]WerikYea, I liked doom 3 as well :)
06:01.48ckknightdoom 3 is only fun when the zombies are life-size
06:01.52AzurewrathFive years for me ckknight, you americans are so slow.
06:02.10[Cu]Werik?
06:02.17[Cu]WerikAre they squeezed in the US version?
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06:02.58ckknightsergio: cool, it went through great.
06:03.09sergiowho is squeezed?
06:03.28FatherJimAnyone got a minute to help me figure something out for an Ace Options table?
06:03.41ckknight[Cu]Werik: I just like playing on a giant screen.
06:04.07[Cu]WerikAnd they distort?
06:04.21ckknightno.
06:04.25ckknightthey're life-size
06:04.34[Cu]WerikI can't see a way you can come out of this:P
06:04.37sergiockknight: yeah their site is shoddy but they have their stuff together so i guess that's what counts
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06:05.10ckknight[Cu]Werik: I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm going to write it off assuming you're ESL or something.
06:05.30[Cu]WerikESL?
06:05.49ckknightenglish-as-a-second-language
06:06.05FatherJimAnyone know any addons that execute a function and pass a command line parameter?  I can't make enough sense of the Options API page apparently.
06:06.07[Cu]WerikOh
06:06.17ThraeI think curse-gaming isn't English-owned. Maybe German?
06:06.26ckknightFatherJim: the text type.
06:06.27Fin<PROTECTED>
06:06.29Thrae/owned/run/
06:06.36ckknightThrae: French, I thought.
06:06.38[Cu]WerikIt is french. But It doesnt mean I'm 'french owned' :)
06:06.39ckknightcould be wrong
06:06.47Thraes/owned/run/
06:06.53grennonholy shit
06:07.04grennonwhen did they add gryphons to the towers in EPL?
06:07.05FinLola!
06:07.20[Cu]WerikWhen they added the towers I guess grennon:)
06:07.22grennonthat is soo badass
06:07.23FatherJim<-- must not be explaining this well enough.
06:08.21FatherJimIn my Addon, I have a series of options in an Ace Options table.  All is working well, one option is 'excuse' which calls Loudmouth:Output_Excuse(). I can't figure out how to get the Ace Option table to let me set it up so that I can pass any optional parameters to this function.
06:08.50Finohhh I think I might know what you mean, sort of, maybe
06:08.55Finit's frustrating as fuck eh
06:09.00ckknightFatherJim: as I said, use the 'text' type
06:09.10ckknightset get = false
06:09.17ckknightand set = function(text) dosomething() end
06:09.29nymbiaFatherJim: set it as a 'text' type, then the set= function will get the extra stuff as arg1
06:09.31FatherJimAh, now your comment makes much more sense.
06:09.44Finthen you have to split the text var into arguments
06:09.58Finbut there's someting that does that really easily, I found out after I'd done it the hard way
06:10.17KaeltenI hate implicit infomration sometimes
06:10.32Finwhat's implicit information?
06:11.15ckknightFin: then use input = true
06:11.17Kaeltenjust a mild rant about how somehow info is spost to find its way into a functino but you can't figure out how its spost tog et there.
06:13.10ckknightcan people log into WoW (US)?
06:13.30ckknightnvm, I can now.
06:13.33FatherJimI have been in all evening.
06:13.33nymbiackknight: yeah, i'm on at the moment
06:13.55ckknightso I'm contemplating actually committing to one character and leveling him up
06:14.05ckknightany thoughts?
06:14.13grennonstay away from argent dawn
06:14.15grennonor else
06:14.15KaeltenI still don't have a 60
06:14.21Finahaa
06:14.27ZealotOnAStickslackers.
06:14.43grennonRP servers have more nutjobs than any of them
06:14.44ZealotOnAStickWhat's your highest couple of level classes, ck?
06:14.52nymbiai hate not concentrating on one character ;)
06:15.19FatherJimckknight - DPS classes level up well - Rogues, mages
06:15.20nymbiai've had the same 60 since early '05 and never leveled an alt above 20ish
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06:15.53grennonwait til tuesday and make a belf pally or dranei shammy
06:15.59grennoninstant guild mobility
06:16.00ZealotOnAStickI only got my 2nd 60 after starting raiding naxx, when I decided I simply -had- to have my own herb/alch bitch.
06:16.39ZealotOnAStickWhat do you like doing when you play, ck?
06:16.41FatherJimI have 8 toons on Blackhand, 2 60s, 1 30ish, 2 40ish, the rest 50+
06:17.01nymbiagrennon: what about the other 50% of the wow population that's gonna do the same exact thing?
06:17.15grennoni have a 60 fury warrior, 60 rogue, and 2 levels left on this paladin im playing at the moment
06:17.32Finyou have a 60 fury warrior *and* a rogue?
06:17.38ckknightZealotOnAStick: I play a priest.
06:17.42grennonthe warrior is my original toon
06:17.52Guillotinecould someone who knows how to use CandyBars please take a quick look at http://guillotine.pastey.net/5066 for me? TY ^_^
06:17.54grennoni levelled up the rog as an alchemist/herbalist alt
06:17.56Finfair enough then
06:17.59Guillotinejust wondering what I did wrong
06:18.04ckknightI've only gotten to lvl 33 legitimately, but I've raided as a priest on a friend's account as well as playing with premades
06:18.23ZealotOnAStickWell, leveling up shadow spec should be cake then.
06:18.27grennonroll a lock, either faction
06:18.32grennonlocks are a lock
06:18.46ckknightI also play Horde
06:19.12Finhow much lock would a warlock chuck if a warlock could chuck lock?
06:19.14ckknightI'm thinking I'm going to hold off and make a BE Priest
06:19.24ckknightFin: 15 stone.
06:19.24ZealotOnAStickckknight: Good.  Horde FTW.
06:19.30Finah
06:19.34ckknightZealotOnAStick: yea, they have bigger penises
06:19.38Finand they look so weedy
06:19.41ckknightmostly cause they don't have whiny children.
06:19.50Eejthat's a lie
06:19.53Eejwe have less though
06:20.08ZealotOnAStickWell . . .  Trolls do be gettin' ungry mon.
06:20.11FatherJimOk, stupid question now about using text.  It seems to now REQUIRE an optional text argument.  Any way I can allow that argument to be 'nil'?
06:20.12ckknightyour mom's a lie.
06:20.12ckknightyea, I know
06:20.12ckknightit's all percentages
06:20.12[Cu]Werikthat's not true, it just looks like that because there are more alliance players overall
06:20.17ZealotOnAStickand I mean . . . Cannibalize as a racial.
06:20.19ckknightno, FatherJim
06:20.20Eejsitting in random alliance vents though
06:20.25FatherJimthen that won't work. :(
06:20.26AzurewrathZealotOnAStick: ya mon ;)
06:20.30ckknightFatherJim: how would that possibly fit in a GUI context?
06:20.31Eejyou're just sitting there talking, then someone joins with the squeakiest voice this side of puberty
06:20.31grennoni play alliance since blizzard loves us more
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06:20.50GuillotineAnybody here know how to use CandyBars? PST :) (don't want to interrupte conversation)
06:20.52Finhmm
06:20.56ckknightEej: ugh, squeakers.
06:21.02FatherJimit could be list or dropdown with a 'nil' value.
06:21.13ckknightfrankly, I'd be fine with Allies as long as I was in an 18+ guild
06:21.21Eejno you wouldn't
06:21.32ckknightFatherJim: for text, you type in manually
06:21.38Azurewrathi still hope Horde won't get _that_ much Children with the introduction of Blood Elfes.. we'll see.
06:21.40ckknightunless it has a table validate
06:21.47Eejdoesn't matter
06:21.54Eejblood elves will have to try extra hard to get into guilds
06:22.05ckknighthow come?
06:22.24Eejprobably because they're leveling to 70 while people are already cementing their 5, 10 and 25 man groups
06:22.42Azurewrathnah.. every guild will _need_ Pallys to raid.. but i don't like the idea of inviting children to the guild just because we need the class..
06:23.18[Cu]Werikthose guilds will use rerolls
06:23.19Industrialfeh new guilds will form
06:23.19ckknightif you're guild's 18+, no biggie
06:23.19ckknightIndustrial: right
06:23.19NightHawkTheSaneEej: i doubt it'd be significantly different than trying to level to 60 before, things are always changing.
06:23.19ZealotOnAStickwe're just handling it mostly internally.
06:23.33[Cu]Werikwhich isnt a good idea if you ask me
06:23.33ZealotOnAStickWe've got a rogue, hunter, and shaman all rerolling Blood Knights.
06:23.42ZealotOnAStickwe're just shopping for a 4th.
06:23.45[Cu]Werikbecause they dont know shit about paladins:)
06:23.49Eejwell
06:23.59Industrial[Cu]Werik: so? fun!
06:24.10[Cu]Werikdepends on your goals Industrial :)
06:24.14ckknight[Cu]Werik: you don't believe people can learn?
06:24.17FinI heard that it's meant to take as long to level from 60 to 70 as it does from 1 to 60 - anyone know if it's complete rubbish or sounds about right?
06:24.20Eejleveling a new char from 1-60 right now... you're not getting into any big guilds unless you know someone ;)
06:24.20Industrialfun is the only goal
06:24.23ZealotOnAStickWell, our hunter has an alliance pally already, and our rogue is Mr. Math Stat Number Cruncher, and has tackled it obsessively.
06:24.40ckknightfun
06:24.46GuillotineFin: rubish imo. I got from 60-62 in less than a day
06:24.54Guillotinethough it could get much longer I suppose
06:24.58CodayusYay, number crunching
06:24.59[Cu]Werikckknight, I can't believe that they learn things fast enough:)
06:25.01AzurewrathFin: don't know about real time.. but it appeared to be very quick.. leveled my mage to 70 in beta.
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06:25.03EejKalman got 60-70 in 5 days played
06:25.06Finyeah, but I got from 1-10 in less than a day too? :) hmm, still not quite right
06:25.16Finah, OK
06:25.25Finbummer
06:25.28FatherJimWell, the only way I guess I can do this is to set a validate list with a "-" option. :(
06:25.30vhaarrGuillotine: What about Candybars?
06:25.32FinI was hoping it would be harder
06:25.47GuillotineVhaarr: can you spot anything wrong with this? http://guillotine.pastey.net/5066
06:25.54CodayusI was about to say that having an 18+ rule seemed kinda silly, since we do fine on Alliance-side without one, until I thought about it and realized we only have 1 raider who's under 18...  Hmm, maybe it IS a good rule...  :-)
06:26.00Eejleveling should never be hard imo
06:26.11[Cu]WerikNo way that someone who never played a paladin is a better choice than someone who played that since release:)
06:26.14ckknightCodayus: it really is.
06:26.18IndustrialCodayus: its a good rule anywhere online
06:26.32IndustrialCodayus: but it doesnt mean people cant ACT like children
06:26.36Industrial:D
06:26.38ckknightso what realm should I play on?
06:26.52Finsomething with lots of 's
06:26.52IndustrialI recall
06:26.53AzurewrathIndustrial: that's so true..
06:26.56FatherJimBlackhand has some really good people. :)
06:26.56Industrialah yes
06:27.00CodayusMy guild is full of married couples with kids.  We never instituted an 18+ rule, but somehow, the only people who stick around with us end up being pretty mature...
06:27.03Industrial21:51 < Antiarc> There's nothing quite like keeping your guild forums account signed in on an unsecured computer.
06:27.06NightHawkTheSaneFatherJim: no, it doesn't. :P
06:27.06Industrial:P
06:27.10vhaarrGuillotine: Looks fine to me.
06:27.10Industrial21:51 < Antiarc> Our raid leader's sig currently reads "I like butts on my face" as a result.
06:27.14Industrial21:52 < zenzelezz> maybe he just does
06:27.19FatherJimHey, I said *SOME* really good people. :)
06:27.26vhaarrGuillotine: There are plenty of mods that use CandyBar, I suggest you take a look at their code.
06:27.27FatherJimalthough, we've got a few jackasses too. lol
06:27.35NightHawkTheSaneokay, okay, i guess i know of 3-4 good people. :)
06:27.38Guillotinevhaarr: I did. and couldn't find a problem :/
06:27.40grennonRP servers are where you want to go if your into fat women with mental health issues
06:27.42grennonthey all RP
06:27.42FatherJimExactly. :)
06:27.51ckknightgrennon: lol.
06:27.51NightHawkTheSaneI bailed on that server the instant I could, though. *shrug*
06:27.52AzurewrathIndustrial: we have a 18+ rule, but one of our nicest members from the time before that rule is 15 or something.. he acts more mature then some 30+ guys..
06:28.05Industrial:)
06:28.29CodayusRoll alliance on lightbringer-US, it's great if you want to go days between seeing a member of the horde.  :-/  Our pop balance has to be seen to be beleived....
06:28.30[Cu]WerikIt's hard to act mature when someone starts speaking with a mouse voice
06:28.33Industrialanyone know the new WHEREIS MANKRIKS WIFE?
06:28.40Industrialits WHERE IS THE ORB
06:28.42Industrial:P
06:28.57ThraeWHERE'S MANKIRK'S MALE LIFE PARTNER?
06:29.00Industrial(in the be starting area)
06:29.13[Cu]Werik:)))
06:29.59Industrialowell im off to bed nn peeplz
06:30.06nymbianight Industrial
06:30.27[Cu]WerikWell no doubt, that orb in a pretty stupid place
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06:30.42EejPvP is the only way to play imo 8o
06:30.42ZealotOnAStickthere's one on hellfire pen too, unless they fixed that quest.
06:31.03Fisker-btw found a place where TBC was completed
06:31.06[Cu]WerikYes, in the lookout tower
06:31.30[Cu]Werikthere are many of those orbs, there is one in eversong woods as well
06:31.40Eejthe teleporting orbs?
06:31.42Azurewrathwait... they changed the Quest where you have to polymorph/kill whatever that bloodelf bitch?
06:32.04Eeji know there's a teleporting orb at falcon watch
06:32.19AzurewrathFisker-: what language Version?
06:32.35Fisker-engb
06:32.54Azurewrathmind sharing the link? ;)
06:33.18Fisker-it's on newsgroups
06:33.36Azurewrathah.. ok, don't have any binary access currently
06:33.43Eejnot like it'll do much for you :P
06:34.07Fisker-well i won't be getting my copy early
06:34.17Fisker-but i'll get my key before or on release
06:34.56Eejhow are you going to get your key before your copy? 8o
06:35.25Fisker-a friend will buy it for me where they have midnight open
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06:37.41ckknightCodayus: what is the percentage?
06:38.07CodayusHeh, let me see what the census site says
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06:38.59Codayus5:1, but it's actually worse than that.
06:39.16CodayusOne of the last...3 horde raiding guilds just announced they're all rerolling alliance on another server.
06:39.32grennonfear ward rocks
06:39.34ckknightwhy reroll alliance?
06:39.41grennonfear ward rocks
06:39.48ckknightgrennon: yea, I may do a Draenei Priest...
06:39.50CodayusFear ward, but a big chunk of it is recruitment pool.
06:40.02[Cu]Werikfear ward is not a big deal
06:40.20Eejalliance still has the Good Guy thing going for it
06:40.26grennonany encounter with a fear makes fear ward a big deal
06:40.27Eejmeaning a lot of PvPers will still be rolling Horde
06:40.41grennonive done ony/nef/gluth with and without FW
06:40.44CodayusFor a long time, horde on Lightbringer has been competing to recruit from a pool of like, a dozen unguilded 60s who aren't total asshats.
06:40.56grennonthe only one of the three that isnt made simpler is gluth
06:41.00Eejony/nef/gluth without fear ward is easy as hell
06:41.15Eejlol@alliance guilds who need to log in a dwarf priest for those fights
06:41.22[Cu]Werikmaybe nef is tough without fw
06:41.25CodayusThe guild that just rerolled (Oryx, if anyone cares) gave recruitment pool as their primary reason.
06:41.49grennonlol at horde guilds whose damage warriors cant break fear because theyll get aggro
06:42.22Eejthat's what an offtank is for
06:42.34grennonofftank cant outthreat a fury warrior
06:43.08Eejhaven't had an issue with fury warriors getting gibbed on gluth before
06:43.22grennonnot to mention, any high dps who resists a fear is dead without FW sometimes
06:43.25Eejhaven't had an issue with not enough DPS either
06:43.31grennongluth is actually the anti-FW encounter
06:43.47grennonif you just tank rotate, the debuff stack never gets too high
06:44.02grennonif you use FW, you have to match threat and tank transition off the debuff
06:44.35vhaarrYou can tank rotate with FW.
06:44.41neurotechThorgard are you there?
06:44.44vhaarrSo that tanks don't have to stancedance.
06:44.55Thorgardneurotech, yup.
06:45.01EejI couldn't care less, we've all killed KT here, fear ward is inconsequential
06:45.07Azurewraththe biggest joke ever is the Drenai FW.. Hey, Alliance has FW, Horde has not.. so we give Alliance a second one.. wtf
06:45.26CodayusAzurewrath: That was....not what I was expecting.
06:45.32vhaarrHorde has WotF.
06:45.33CodayusEspecially after they give horde pallies.
06:45.41Eejonly time fear ward makes a difference is Arena
06:45.44Azurewrathi'd reroll Alliance.. it's just that i have invested to much time into my mage and my guild.. :/
06:45.47grennonhorde dont get pallies
06:45.50grennonthey get kings bitches
06:45.59grennonbecause if you only have 1-2 raid slots open for a pally
06:46.04kebinusanhmm mrplow bank sort sorts your bags not the bank
06:46.05grennonthey better fucking have kings
06:46.18CodayusHeh
06:46.22Eejoh well
06:46.30Eejat least blood knights have the second best racial for pallies
06:46.52DrZootkebinusan, yeah i notcied that about 15 min ago, took me alot of frustrated clicking to work out what was going on though
06:46.53ckknightwhat's their racial?
06:47.03Eejmana tap and ae silence
06:47.03ZealotOnAStickthe mana dealy.
06:47.06ckknightoh, right.
06:47.07CodayusDraenei = overpowered  :-)
06:47.07Azurewrathsome mana-leech thingie
06:47.10Eejthe former which stacks to 3 and counts as a magic buff
06:47.15DrZootisnt there an aoe silence
06:47.23Eejwhich is awesome in itself
06:47.35Eejsince dispel is random
06:48.16Eejae silence isn't bad, but stoneform is pretty amazing, especially if you're using it to clear 5 stacks of Wound Poison or Blind
06:48.45[Cu]Werikwhy would you let anyone put 5 on you :)
06:48.46cynyrEej: i'mma love SToneform and Cos on my rogue :D
06:49.18[Cu]Werikarcane torrent is like a third stun against casters
06:49.26Eejbecause 5 stacks of wound poison happens in like 4 seconds
06:49.34Eej:|
06:49.53cynyryep :)
06:49.55CIA-1703fenlis * r25057 10MusicStream/modules/ChannelImport.lua:
06:49.55CIA-17MusicStream:
06:49.55CIA-17- updated locales koKR
06:50.35Eejplus
06:50.47Eejif you're fighting a warrior+rogue assist train, rogue will be MH wound, OH mind numbing
06:51.23cynyrEej: i find cripiling to be a better offhand... the dot ticks help the slowing of casts
06:51.39Eejyou don't need crippling if you're assisting a warrior
06:51.42Eejwarrior has hamstring
06:52.01cynyrEej: true, most of my pvp doesn't have just me and a war vs someone...
06:52.14Eejwhich is undispellable unless you use BoP/BoF/Escape Artist/FAP
06:52.21Azurewrathcynyr: dots don't slow down casts. Only DD does.
06:52.38Azurewratherr, does not.
06:52.38Eejyeah but i'm saying, War+Rogue is going to be a very popular damage combo
06:52.55Eejand what's the point of putting crippling on when hamstring is going to be on anyways
06:52.56cynyrAzurewrath: ohh well... 204 dmg/3 seconds plus my dps and a stunlock kill casters before i worry about it too much
06:52.56[Cu]WerikI'll solo them:)
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06:58.54Kaeltenis it hotest or hottest?
06:58.57ThorgardRuh ruh. Found a ag_UF castbar bug.
06:59.11nymbiatt
06:59.35Kaeltenthought so
07:02.00Simpleapologies for the somewhat dumb question, is it possible to pass non-standard colors to candybar (i.e. use rgb values)?
07:03.42CIA-1703fatherjim * r25059 10loudmouth/ (5 files):
07:03.42CIA-17loudmouth:
07:03.42CIA-17- Added keybindings, and the ability to send an excuse message to any channel (excluding numerics - those later)
07:04.42stavmarcould someone please tell me which version of AgUF is stable in Raid?
07:10.54Fisker-Lol
07:11.01Fisker-those koreans just keep updating random stuff
07:11.49grennondont they know that int he future everyone will just speak english
07:12.01grennonits been prophecied by every major science feature film
07:12.10grennonexcept the foreign ones
07:12.29stavmargrennon, love postal man it is great
07:13.04grennonthanks
07:13.36grennoni sent a friend yesterday a pic of the blackbook module doing its thing
07:13.45grennonand they replied "all this because Cide pissed you off?"
07:14.02Fisker-MY isp fails
07:14.08Gnarfoz_blackbook module? ^^
07:14.16Fisker-"Oh lets limit his newsgroup access to 40kB/s"
07:14.26Fisker-"Oh lets up the number of connections to match my speed"
07:14.32Fisker-;P
07:14.32grennonGnarfoz_: its a contact list, its the MailTo killer
07:14.44Fisker-I want an altclick killer?
07:14.53Gnarfoz_never used mailto
07:14.54Gnarfoz_=]
07:14.56Shadey216hey guys i'm looking for an addon and I can't remember what it's called. It basically lists the sell value of items in the tool-tip. It uses KCitems
07:15.00sylvanaarwhats altclick killer
07:15.20grennonFisker-: i added alt-starttrade to it
07:15.21ThraeShadey216: KCItems can do that by itelf
07:15.26Thraes/itelf/itself/
07:15.45Shadey216cool hehe thanks
07:16.00Gnarfoz_hm, wasn't there an addon that removes the annoying 'do you want to overwrite this already enchanted item with a new enchant' box?
07:19.08ThraeAnyone have a mod which can let you copy stuff from the chat window?
07:20.00Fisker-niceness grennon
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07:21.27grennonFisker-: its got that too, doesnt overrride fence/postal altclicks
07:22.30CIA-1703nymbia * r25061 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: Reinstate some CraftFrame and TradeskillFrame crippling code, as the data gathering errors have been fixed in Stitch.
07:22.48Azurewrathgrennon: mhm.. i failed to find a massmail feature in Postal.. and alt-click for the Trade Window isn't there.. :(
07:24.27grennonhttp://wowace.com/files/AltClickToAddItem/AltClickToAddItem-r24902.zip
07:24.51grennonthat wasnt mailed related, so it became its own mod
07:25.37Azurewrathmhm, sounds acceptable.. but what about mass mailing? *flees*
07:26.15bigzerogrennon, you should probably package that with postal
07:27.16bigzerogrennon, not everyone getting postal will know about altclicktoadditem, but it's a must have
07:28.01grennonill link it in the postal thread and if i ever get a wiki account ill put it there as well
07:28.37bigzeroso no mass mailing yet?
07:28.38Azurewrathhehe, the alt-click feature was the original reason why i downloaded ct_mailmod -> gmail -> postal
07:28.42grennonAzurewrath: massmailing right now isnt done, instead were speedmailing
07:28.57NightHawkTheSanespeedmailing?
07:29.02grennonyou just type someone name into the To: field and start alt-clicking items in your bag
07:29.06bigzeroalt-click is amazing
07:29.08grennonand they get mailed
07:29.20bigzerohmm
07:29.21grennonno big batch or gui necessary
07:29.22bigzeroidk
07:29.32bigzerosometimes you make mistakes
07:29.39bigzeroi know  i do
07:29.40NightHawkTheSanegrennon: huh. neat.
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07:30.00Azurewrathyes, i just sent 5 healing pots to a guildie by mistake while playing around with postal ;)
07:30.06Azurewrathbut the feature is nice indeed
07:30.17grennonitll eventuall be an option you can toggle once i get it converted into modules
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07:30.53FatherJimGrennon - I have a minor idea for that.
07:31.04grennonits basically there to tide you over til a bulkgui is done
07:31.20bigzeroi think you should definitelly include a mass mailing feature...i wouldn't trust myself with speedmailing
07:31.39FatherJimPerhaps, you could allow an 'option' to let the Alt-clicks build a list on screen, then let it do a major speedmail when you click a 'send' button?
07:32.01bigzeroaka mass mail
07:32.32NightHawkTheSaneyeah, that's basically what bulk/mass mailing is. :P
07:32.51grennonsomething like, altclicking an item in your bag creates a dewdrop next to the mail window with a link to the item
07:33.01grennonkeep clicking and it adds more lines
07:33.16grennonat the bottom of the dewdrop is a "Send" link
07:33.20FatherJimright... but it can still do things normally
07:33.29FatherJimi.e. only done if you choose some option for 'delayed' send.
07:33.54FatherJimI really like the sound of the idea of speedmailing, but I'm just clumsy from time to time, and would likely mail something important by accident. lol
07:34.00grennoni wonder how i make the dewdrop "sticky", that is, it stays open until you close the mailframe or click on the inboxframe
07:35.17FatherJimMail_Closed is an event...
07:36.01grennonFatherJim: the point is im a dewdrop nub and dont know how to keep them open without a mouse cursor on them
07:36.07grennonor on the parentframe
07:36.41FatherJimah. :) Um... not sure...
07:38.30PProvostAFKDamn you Tekkub!! (sorry... couldn't resist)
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07:40.55Dekuna.
07:41.43grennonbut yeah, i think im liking this
07:42.21grennonill set a dewdrop whose parent is the sendmailframe and set it appear to the right of it
07:42.30grennonbut it wont actually open til you add an item
07:42.39FatherJimthat makes sense.
07:42.50FatherJimlike the Outfitter frame on the character toon?
07:43.04grennonnever used it
07:43.35FatherJimAh.  It attaches to the side of the frame, graphics make it look like a sunken slide-out tray.
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07:45.50ThraeAnyone use CorkFu?
07:46.49CIA-1703nymbia * r25063 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua: Stitch-1.0: All cases of autorefreshes should now be smooth and error-free.
07:49.45grennonany dewdrop gurus around that can tell me how to keep them from autoclosing after X seconds?
07:52.09CIA-1703nymbia * r25064 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua: Stitch-1.0: One last (*knock on wood*) little error
07:52.53FatherJimhey, I found another error in Stitch... *snicker*
07:53.20nymbiaFatherJim: :'(
07:53.28FatherJimOh, I'm just teasin' ya. :)
07:53.51FatherJimwouldn't have said it except for the last commit note. :)
07:53.58nymbiagrennon: it'd be a cheesy workaround, but i guess you could schedule a repeating event to have it refresh every few seconds while it's open
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07:56.25grennonnymbia: i guess theres no sticky flag to keep people from me from using dewdrops as guis
07:56.35FatherJimYou could try using Tablet?
07:57.22nymbiagrennon: not that i'm aware of, but that's not stopping you from having it open all the time, either.
08:00.20ckknightgrennon: it's meant to autoclose, I designed it that way
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08:02.55ckknightDewdrop's not a full-fledged GUI, it's a config system, that's all
08:03.07ckknightit's meant to do the job fast and well, with minimal pain
08:03.41ZealotOnAStickWould Tablet be better for something that you'd want to keep up and visible for a bit?
08:04.01ckknightpossible.
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08:04.20ckknightTablet predominantly shows you information
08:04.32ckknightand might let you manipulate that information
08:04.37ckknightbut it's not a full-fledged input system
08:05.40grennoni just need a display system, maybe tablet is better
08:06.15FatherJimI believe the Fubar addons use tablet as a tooltip, I know my mod does
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08:06.33ckknightyea, use Tablet
08:06.48FatherJimI found it to be very easy to learn
08:07.01ckknightit's very good for displaying information
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08:15.03Deviad_Hello, good morning
08:15.21nymbiasup Deviad_
08:17.02DeviadI just wanted to tell that the torrent which does download 7 GB contains WOW + Burning crusade
08:17.26DeviadBut the dimension of the expansion is something more than 2 GB
08:17.46DeviadThe 4 CD for installing it
08:17.57Deviad:)
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08:31.57Deviad_:)
08:33.02DeviadBtw you find the right link for TBC on a famous bay of "pirates".
08:33.43AzurewrathOld news btw.
08:33.44ckknightenUS?
08:33.49AzurewrathenGB
08:33.54sergiono it's enGB :|
08:34.15Azurewrathckknight: if you still have the enUS Beta Client.. just use that one and edit the realmlist.wtf
08:34.25grennondoes the TBC installer do anything if your running 2.0.3/4 is what i want to know
08:34.30ckknightyour silly extra u's don't amuse me, sergio
08:34.47ckknightgrennon: yes, it has to install Outland
08:34.52DeviadenGB
08:34.58sergiockknight: I don't get it
08:35.02grennoni believe outland is already in the game files
08:35.07ckknightsergio: color vs. colour
08:35.09nymbiano, it is not.
08:35.12Azurewrathno, it's not.
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08:35.14ckknightgrennon: it's not
08:35.25Azurewrathyou need the ~1.3gig expansion.MPQ
08:35.29DeviadThe problem is that in the cd-roms there's some unidentified (as of now) extra contents
08:35.34Deviadwhich are not included in the beta.
08:35.47grennoni just uninstalled beta this morning
08:35.51Deviadthere are*
08:36.09sergioI Feel like going to walmart tomorrow and seeing if someone uninformed will sell me BC
08:36.11grennoni thought for sure over the past few big patches they included outland
08:36.18sergioso I can play at midnight instead of waiting for UPS
08:36.22grennoni didnt realize how big filewise that content was
08:36.29DeviadI made your same thought, I downloaded the beta and thought there was gonna be a patch, but in a blue post admins said about this extra contents.
08:36.31Deviadthese*
08:36.54sergiothey could be full of shit shrug
08:36.59sergioprobably not though
08:37.11DeviadIt could also be a commercial move
08:37.43DeviadThe difference in size about the 2 is this:
08:37.47Deviadbetween the 2*
08:38.00DeviadMMMm wait
08:38.14DeviadThe beta I have is in a rar, I should decompress that before
08:38.38Azurewrathno... those "extra contents" is the Outland. People were asking if they could play with a normal WoW 2.0.4 Client, which is not the case. Since they need the ~1.3gig expansion.MPQ.
08:39.08AzurewrathThe TBC Beta Client however should be Retail-Ready IF you patch it to 2.0.4. I'm 99% sure.
08:39.22Azurewrathyou just have to edit the realmlist.wtf
08:39.48ckknightthat's what I had figured
08:40.00DeviadAzurewrath, what I'm talking about happened before the arrival of 2.0.4
08:40.09sergiono one at any store has any fucking balls in the states
08:40.10DeviadIt happened when there was 2.0.3
08:40.17sergioi can't believe it's not torrented or anything yet
08:40.35Deviadsergio, well you have to think that here we don't have FBI and shit like that
08:40.44Deviadand EU parliament is against microsux and stuff like that
08:40.47Azurewrathsince the tbc on the cd's will be 2.0.0 or 2.0.1 that doesn't matter
08:40.47DeviadI'm so proud of that
08:40.48Deviad:D
08:41.13CIA-1703eraslin * r25067 10DKPmon/Looting/lootitem.lua: DKPmon: self->DKPmon to fix bad call to :Print()
08:41.32DeviadCan't wait for every person in the world to know what an Operating System is and being able to use it and not asking anymore questions like:
08:41.39Deviad"Burning crusade does not work"
08:41.45Deviad"Did you buy the game?" "No"
08:41.47Deviadhahaah
08:41.55DeviadBecause I'm sure there will be tons of posts like that
08:42.05AzurewrathDeviad: Politicians are the same corrupt bastards all over the World. Nothing to be proud of. :)
08:42.32DeviadAzurewrath, I agree with you, but in this case their interests coincide with mine. :)
08:43.38AzurewrathMaybe, but imagine why they have those interests. Because some lobby-guys from EU-companys told them.
08:43.54DeviadOf course EU parliament purpose is to advatange the competition and research on this field which is somehow blocked by software patents and stuff like that.
08:44.19DeviadAzurewrath, haha we wrote the same :P
08:44.31DeviadWell, I know but as they coincide I'm fine with it :D
08:44.45DeviadI fight for those which do not coincide :P
08:46.43neurotechThorgard are you there?
08:47.09Thorgardneurotech, yup.
08:47.22neurotechI get errors with Aperture :S
08:47.33neurotechI got the version from WowAceUpdater
08:48.10neurotechWhen I try to set a value for the border it gives me an error message and doesnt do anything - any ideas?
08:49.28ZealotOnAStickSo, whatever happened to Sairen?
08:50.47DeviadOK I compared the size of retail and beta these are the differences:
08:50.52DeviadBeta = 2,13
08:50.54DeviadRetail = 2,33
08:51.18DeviadSo there's like 200 MB difference between the 2.
08:51.47NightHawkTheSaneintro cinematic could be part of that?
08:52.13DeviadI don't know I can't see the contents of the ISOs till I'm not done with downloading
08:52.33Deviadbut I can see their names and size since they are pre-allocated on the hard disk.
08:53.18Deviadare mpq files somewhat comepressed?
08:53.31DeviadBecause it could be that
08:54.19neurotechany ideas Thorgard? :(
08:54.59Thorgardneurotech, did you download with or without externals?
08:55.35CIA-1703toadkiller * r25068 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua AutoBarProfile.lua Core.lua):
08:55.35CIA-17AutoBar:
08:55.35CIA-17-AutoBarProfile:CanCastSpell, not just CanCastSpell take II
08:56.43neurotechwith Thorgard
08:57.17ThorgardWeird.
08:57.23ThorgardWhat kind of error are you getting, then?
08:57.52neurotech1 sec
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08:58.58neurotechThorgard: Couldnt find region named '0'
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08:59.07Thorgard:o
09:00.26neurotechhaarm are you there? :)
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09:06.01neurotechThorgard is there any other mods that do what Aperture does?
09:06.35Thorgardneurotech, yeah, CT_Viewport.
09:06.43ZealotOnAStickCT_Viewport and Skinner both have viewport functions, but neither as slim and streamlined as Aperture.
09:07.34Kaeltennight guys
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09:13.46Deviad_On the famous bay of "pirates" I found this:
09:13.47Fisker-oh snap
09:13.50Deviad_http://www.gamersloot.net/download/WOWBurningCrusadeEurope.torrent
09:13.50Deviad_this is teh installed and patched beta version. So dont spend your time for downloading.
09:13.50Deviad_Thnx wikberget for this oportunnity to download teh game...and please...WAKE UP!))
09:13.55Fisker-After i downloaded TBC i was missing 6 blocks
09:14.02Fisker-And the uploaded screwed up his par's
09:14.23Fisker-so i can't use them to repair it :/
09:14.23Deviad_So it looks like the beta version is what we need in the end according to him...
09:14.27Deviad_I got the beta version from www.boomtown.net
09:15.10Deviad_Since the announcement my downloading speed went from 100 KB/s to 0 KB/s. :|
09:15.11Fisker-no intro cinematic though 0WNED
09:15.25Deviad_OK so beta is what we need?
09:15.30Deviad_that's "official"?
09:15.41Fisker-Officially you can't use it
09:15.59durcynonly word from blizzard so far is that the retail installer breaks if it sees the closed beta client
09:16.12Deviad_but you can changing the contents of the file containing the login servers and stuff right?
09:16.16Fisker-i'll check in a moment durcyn
09:16.25Fisker-found the missing par!
09:16.47durcynwhat's the rush anyway?  you can't use it until tuesday
09:16.57Eejhm
09:17.01Fisker-and btw Deviad "wikberget" seeded the retail discs not the beta
09:17.04Deviad_Yeah, but do you image the mess there wil be on thuesday?
09:17.08Eejquick q, is there a way to set up party assist targets with ag_uf yet?
09:17.18Fisker-durcyn us people gets to use it now :(
09:17.25Deviad_People who never played downloading the game, the server of half world overloaded if it's true you can't use the beta with a little change and so on
09:17.35durcynFisker-: you can have it installed, yes, but none of the content is yet available
09:17.45Deviad_people who restart playing with the expansion and so on
09:17.49Fisker-The expansion upgrade page is up durcyn
09:18.01Eejisn't it 403-ing still
09:18.04durcynstill can't zone in to any of the zones =P
09:18.11Deviad_Fisker-, I'm waiting to know what you'll find out
09:18.17durcyni kind of tried it earlier on a live realm >_>
09:18.36Fisker-so you upgraded and tried it?
09:18.49durcynyeah, some stores were releasing their copies early
09:18.57Fisker-yeah i know
09:18.59Deviad_durcyn, yeah I know :P
09:19.03durcynyou have to re-patch to 2.0.3 is all
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09:19.05Fisker-well then atleast a big fuck you to blizzard
09:19.11Fisker-cause they could've done that for everyone
09:19.15Deviad_hehe
09:19.16durcynbut still can't enter outlands, azuremyst, or whatever the damn bloodelf area is called
09:19.16Deviad_true
09:19.18Fisker-Most stores have gotten their copies in a week
09:19.26Fisker-now everything is going to fuck up at release day
09:19.32Deviad_I had to buy the game from England, and I'm from Italy! :P
09:20.01durcyni would've liked a boat ride to the draenei area early, 3000 runecloth ready to go for my elekk!
09:20.08Deviad_I'll get the key e-mailed on the 16th cos the store didn't want to get its ass kicked by Blizzard...
09:20.23Fisker-i won't get it's ass kicked anyways
09:20.35Deviad_hehe
09:20.42Deviad_Fisker-, did you find out if beta works?
09:20.49Deviad_According to that post on piratebay it should work
09:20.52Fisker-beta works on current retail
09:21.01PogoTribalSo
09:21.04PogoTribalIn Prat
09:21.08Deviad_so what was that blue post about on the official forum?
09:21.15Fisker-dunno
09:21.21PogoTribalI don't like how sentences are cut off when the buttons are on the inside of the window.
09:21.26Deviad_I guess it was a commercial move to make people wait to get the box
09:21.26PogoTribalDoes anyone know?
09:21.28Fisker-at first it was actually "Yeah it'll probably work, but it's not supported"
09:21.40Fisker-Then they changed it to "GTFO, no betas allowed"
09:21.49Fisker-loose interpretation
09:22.25Deviad_Does anyone have the realm.wtf or whatever and could pls upload its contents on pastebin.com?
09:22.29neurotechWhat's the mage equivalent of Necrosis?
09:22.29Deviad_or rafb.net?
09:22.37durcynnot sure about the gtfo part, only time blizzard blacklisted beta accounts from anything was on the 2.0 PTR
09:22.37Deviad_neurotech, cryolysis
09:22.39Fisker-it's eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
09:22.43ZealotOnAStickCryolysis
09:23.04durcynpeople with beta were making draeneis and bloodelves on PTR, it was comedy gold for about an hour.
09:23.17durcynneurotech: try Henge, the mage module doesn't suck.
09:23.31Fisker-set realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
09:23.40Deviad_OK
09:23.56Deviad_so I can drop the download of the retail?
09:24.08Deviad_or is there any chance beta won't work? O_o
09:24.16Fisker-Technically yes
09:25.29Eejwhat'st he gmail replacement called again
09:25.45rpowers__just curious, do any of you play on zuluhed (US)?
09:25.59Fisker-Postal Eej
09:26.09neurotechta durcyn
09:26.10Eejright,t hanks
09:26.43rpowersare the beta installers available for non-beta testers?
09:27.20durcynrpowers: yeah, anyone can download it, just have to have a bit flipped in your profile to log on to beta realms
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09:27.43rpowersbut i should be able to have a full beta client installed to perhaps get a slight jump on tuesday?
09:27.57rpowersnot that i get the key any sooner than i get the discs, but it saves installation
09:28.21nymbiarpowers: that's the theory.
09:28.23durcyndepends on if beta client can use patches from live servers or not
09:28.37durcynthe original beta distribution is well out of date
09:28.50durcynand the beta realms are down now
09:28.51nymbiai wonder if they even still have those patches up
09:29.02Fisker-btw
09:29.05rpowersmaybe i should just wait. i'd hate to have to do a full reinstall because i've messed something up
09:29.07Fisker-installer works fine with beta installed as well
09:29.10rpowersany news on DVD releases?
09:29.33Fisker-So basically there was zero reason to say why you couldn't use the beta to connect
09:29.46nymbiarpowers: collector's edition only
09:29.46durcynFisker-: other than they don't want to support it
09:30.11rpowersnymbia, >:( i hate having to swap cd's all the time when both optical drives are DVD readers
09:30.12Fisker-They initially said that
09:30.19Fisker-"It should work, but it won't be supported"
09:30.28Fisker-Rather than "You'll have to uninstall the beta, bla bla"
09:30.34Fisker-which they changed it to
09:30.44durcynconsider the audience though
09:30.45nymbiait'll upgrade to a retail installation just fine, i bet.
09:30.58durcyn14 year old children with their parents' credit cards, etc etc
09:31.03nymbiajust smack it with the 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 patches.
09:31.17rpowersif you tell a corporate client that their configuration won't be supported, they understand what you mean. if you tell the average wow player, they do it anyway and then post for help in the wrong forum
09:31.31grennonjust have someone give you the live BC patched repair tool and run it
09:31.35nymbiarpowers: so true.
09:32.59Deviad_This is the beta version that I own: WoW2005991engbinstaller1.zip
09:33.02durcynhrm.. nymbia: any chance of moving mannufac to pt 3.0 so i can ditch two of these three different library versions? =)
09:33.09Deviad_WoW2005991engbinstaller2.zip
09:33.29Deviad_Is this good for patching to 2.0.3 - 2.0.4 or not?
09:33.50nymbiadurcyn: yeah.  i was planning on doing that today but i'm not gonna get around to it.. next couple of days, though ;)
09:33.52Deviad_I took it from www.boomtown.net a few days ago.
09:34.53chuckgHaha wow.
09:34.57chuckgMy buddy got his copy of TBC today.
09:35.04durcynnymbia: spiffy, danke.
09:35.15nymbianeed to up all my other PT-using junk to PT3, too.. stitch, stitchui, carto_instanceloot.. heh
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09:36.00durcynpt-2 stuff can mostly be find/replaced i've found.  autobar uses some weird syntax, and mendeleev gave me a headache
09:36.12andremarPT3?
09:36.16Fisker-mendeleev 0wns :(
09:36.21nymbiadurcyn: vhaarr was working on autobar
09:36.24Fisker-Just needs more drops
09:36.30nymbiaand mendy's still on PT1, i think
09:36.48sylvanaarPogoTribal: just update to a newer version
09:36.54Deviad_chuckg, Hey do something good then.
09:37.13Deviad_Tell us the size of the whole 3 CD roms
09:37.18Deviad_the total size
09:37.21nymbiaheh
09:37.39Deviad_and look what changes between beta and retail in terms of contents
09:37.47Deviad_see if the dimensions of .mpq files is the same
09:37.59durcynblah, that reminds me i'm going to have to drive 15 miles in crap weather at midnight on monday to get mine.  stupid eb games.
09:38.01Deviad_and if there's some cinematics or stuff like that
09:38.13nymbiaall that's gonna be on those is expansion.mpq and the new cinematic
09:38.17Deviad_durcyn, or you can get bc from gamersloot
09:38.27durcynDeviad_: i prepaid in full last september
09:38.35Deviad_:P
09:38.37Deviad_Poor guy
09:38.39Deviad_:((
09:39.25durcynnah, it's not that bad.  the girl on the phone when they called to remind me sounded hot!  i'm sure she loves being hit on by hopeless geeks every day though.
09:39.36neurotechis there any other button layouts for bartender3 apart from cyCircled?
09:39.37durcynso there might be some eye candy ther ey et!
09:39.57durcynneurotech: cycircled is the only thing that changes the button art atm
09:40.05durcynneurotech: but it does have about 5 different textures
09:40.20neurotechcyCircled does?
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09:40.35durcynneurotech: yep, check the options :o
09:48.13Deviad_Fisker-, tell me when you are back
09:51.04Fisker-y helo thar
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09:57.37Deviad__I'm trying to do something
09:57.39Adirellehi
09:57.52Adirelle~seen toadkiller
09:58.17purltoadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-178-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 21m 22s ago, saying: 'well in that case jsut cut & paste it'.
09:58.17Deviad__Adirelle, hi
09:58.17Deviad__Adirelle, I'm trying to copy wow 2.0.4 over burning crusade beta
09:58.17Deviad__and see what happens
09:58.17Deviad__:P
09:58.18Adirelle:)
09:58.31Adirellegl
09:58.39Deviad__Well they are in different directories
09:58.46Deviad__so I always have my wow working :P
09:59.07Deviad__I have a pretty big and fast disk too :P
09:59.19ckknighthttp://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTg0NzMmbnI9Mg_3_3,00.html
09:59.22Deviad__Adirelle, in the end it seams that the difference between beta and live is the cinematic intro
09:59.38Adirelleoki
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10:00.24Adirelleckknight : oO
10:00.24nymbiackknight: what the
10:00.40ckknighthe's a rabbit breeder
10:00.42Gnarfoz_and how come ckk reads german news magazines? ;D
10:01.22ckknightIch liese die Deutshe Spiegeln
10:01.31Gnarfoz_fast richtig ;)
10:01.34Deviad__I'm watching the cinematic intro
10:01.37Deviad__of burning crusade
10:01.41Noekoe|DAWNgm
10:01.48Deviad__I copyed 2.0.4 files of the burning crusdae and works
10:01.49Deviad__good
10:01.56Noekoe|DAWNag_uf gave me these blackbars:
10:01.57Noekoe|DAWNhttp://www.ltown.nl/awake/upload/images/bugbars.jpg
10:02.03Noekoe|DAWNanyone know how to get rit of it?
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10:02.15GnarfozNoekoe|DAWN: disable the 'group headers'
10:02.18Noekoe|DAWNty
10:02.21Gnarfozfor party frames and for raid frames
10:02.23cncfanaticsyo all
10:02.33Gnarfozactually, just hovering over the menu option will fix it, i think
10:02.38ckknightactually it was linked from slashdot
10:02.38Gnarfozdid for me, at least
10:02.48Gnarfozthought as much ;)
10:03.17Gnarfoz< back to pushing enchanting from 60 to 230 :\
10:03.35Deviad__omg cinematics kicks ass
10:03.39Deviad__cinematic*
10:04.08Gnarfozactually, 250 it seems
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10:07.10ckknightwhy doesn't Safari have a proper page zoom?
10:07.56KinkxOpera > *
10:07.58Kinkx:]
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10:08.57CIA-1703cncfanatics * r25070 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: Added PaintChips-2.0 to externals
10:09.53Adirellewho knows a lightweight, win32, IRC client that allows limited scripting ?
10:10.18ckknightKinkx: yes, it's what I use normally, specifically because of page zoom
10:10.26ckknightAdirelle: XChat?
10:10.28ZealotOnAStickMight give X-chat 2 a try.
10:10.34ckknightif Safari had page zoom, it's quite likely I'd use that instead
10:10.36ZealotOnAStickI keep meaning to check out Hydra
10:10.38renchapAdirelle: irssi+putty+screen
10:10.46AdirelleXchat ? thought it was x-online...
10:10.53Adirellerenchap : well...
10:11.06Adirelles/x-online/x application/
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10:11.52ZealotOnAStickgoogle it, there's a windows version that comes with gtk for windows packaged up in the dlls in the installer.
10:12.06Adirellebtw, already have them (gaim)
10:12.10ZealotOnAStickand you can script with perl, or python, or something else I forget.
10:12.23CIA-1703moonsorrow * r25071 10FuBar_AnkhTimerFu/FuBar_AnkhTimerFu.toc:
10:12.23CIA-17FuBar_AnkhTimerFu:
10:12.23CIA-17- updated toc to 20003
10:12.39Adirelleif I add "free" to my search criteria, what would propose ? :)
10:12.49Adirelles/propose/you propose/
10:12.54renchapirssi ^^
10:13.04ZealotOnAStickit is free.
10:13.07ZealotOnAStickit's . . . silver something.
10:13.10ZealotOnAStickfor the distro for it.
10:14.32ckknightSilverEx
10:14.37ckknightor SilverX
10:14.39ckknightor something
10:16.25Adirellegot it : silverex, aka x-chat 2
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10:17.58CIA-17AutoBar:
10:17.58CIA-17- Zorbin's Ultra-Shrinker
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10:20.38CIA-17Babble-2.2:
10:20.39CIA-17- Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: frFR Update
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10:22.21CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r25074 10Cartographer_Icons/ (Cartographer_Icons.toc addon.lua):
10:22.21CIA-17Cartographer_Icons:
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10:23.53CIA-17Cartographer_Icons_MetaMapPack:
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10:27.26Deviad__Adirelle, silverx.org
10:27.30Deviad__I guess that was the website
10:27.36Adirelledeviad: i'm using it now :)
10:27.44Adirellei'mm configuring it
10:28.05CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r25077 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua:
10:28.05CIA-17Cartographer_Noteshare:
10:28.05CIA-17- adapted locals sections to the changes in the enUS section
10:28.12Gnarfozx-chat is nice, and silverex's build the only one currently being updated, to my knowledge
10:28.21Deviad__http://www.silverex.org/news/
10:28.32Gnarfozthere were other builds that did use statically compiled MiniGTK which does not have the ugly redraw bug
10:28.38Gnarfozusing one of those, still
10:29.15Deviad__I'm using original xchat though with a bought key
10:29.15Deviad__:P
10:29.26Deviad__One of the few softwares I have ever bought in my life
10:29.39Deviad__like antivir and ewido :P
10:30.25Adirellewhat does ewido ?
10:30.38Adirelleaah... xchat font is configurable
10:30.43Adirelle(gaim wasn't)
10:31.24Gnarfozoh
10:31.24Gnarfozhttp://silenceisdefeat.org/~b0at/xchat/win32/
10:31.32Gnarfozthere's a new one, sergio, with static gtk
10:31.39Gnarfozgotta have to try that one soon :)
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10:32.16GnarfozAdirelle: could you check if you get this bug with silverex's current build? http://silenceisdefeat.org/~b0at/xchat/win32/gtkwin_redraw_bug.png
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10:32.38Gnarfoz(just put some window over the channel window and wait until the channel scrolls up one line)
10:32.39Adirellewhich bug ? :)
10:32.47Gnarfozthe one on the screenshot ;)
10:33.06Deviad__Adirelle, is a spyware scanning software.
10:35.00Adirelledeviad__: oki
10:35.09Deviad__http://www.1337.it/forum/showthread.php?t=9618&page=4
10:35.11Adirellei'm using antivir too, tho in the free version
10:35.13Deviad__Look at the images here.
10:35.25Deviad__Adirelle, currently I'm using "Active Virus shield"
10:35.37Deviad__as I was looking for something free for not paying in the future :P
10:36.08Deviad__I "patched" burning crusade
10:36.15Adirellebtw, xchat seems to have a litlle trouble displaying fonts
10:36.21Deviad__and I could login without any problems
10:37.02Deviad__I'd like to know when the check on the key is done
10:37.04Adirellei'm glad for you :)
10:37.08Deviad__and if there's a real check O_o
10:37.20Deviad__maybe when you get in the outland it says "cannot enter"
10:37.21Adirelledid you tried to get through the portal ?
10:37.27Nomaddeviad how can you login without first upgrading your account if the site is not up o_o
10:37.28Adirellei think that's the point
10:37.41Deviad__Nomad, this is what I did:
10:37.50Nomadi can read hehe
10:37.54Deviad__I installed the beta client
10:37.56Nomadbut its really strange
10:38.09Deviad__copied all the files in wow directory to burning crusade
10:38.18Deviad__and logged in :P
10:38.33Deviad__I saw the cinematic intro and all the stuff
10:38.39Nomadbut you used a tbc beta key?
10:38.43Deviad__The login server is teh same...
10:38.46Deviad__Nomad, no
10:38.47Deviad__^^
10:38.54Deviad__the key was only for the beta server
10:39.01Nomadretail cd-key?
10:39.01Deviad__so I guess they will have a different login server
10:39.07Deviad__Nomad, wow cd key
10:39.11Adirellejust trying something : Deviad, cna you say my name in two seconds ?
10:39.11Deviad__no expansion key was used
10:39.17Deviad__Adirelle,
10:39.25Deviad__Adirelle
10:39.28Nomadhmmm that is really strange
10:39.38Adirelledon't work :(
10:39.39renchapwith the tbc retail client you can play wow as with the current client
10:39.50renchapthis is the same login server
10:39.59Deviad__well, you will have to install 2.0.4 over the retail expansion
10:40.02Nomadprobably you cant go in the portal
10:40.03renchapand the same client, without some mpq
10:40.24Deviad__so basically I roughly did that
10:40.26renchapyup Nomad, you still need a tbc account
10:40.53Deviad__I guess who doesn't have the account won't be able to upgrade his skills
10:41.00Deviad__use new items and get into the portal
10:41.09Deviad__when you upgrade they get unlocked
10:41.16renchapuse new items is possible
10:41.29Lysitheaaslong as they're lvl60 or below :)
10:41.36Lysitheareqlvl that is
10:41.37Adirelleyep
10:41.41Deviad__true
10:41.59Deviad__By the way here everything is working great
10:42.02Nomadlvl58 is the minimum right
10:42.04Adirellein fact the two thing that couldn't be done is going into outlands and past level 60
10:42.09Deviad__so the secret has ben revealed "officially" :P
10:42.26Deviad__I had no crash too
10:42.44Nomadwell if i dont get my copy by tommorow ill start banging my head :\
10:42.58LysitheaAdirelle dont forget you cant create be/dranei chars either
10:43.04Deviad__Everything you need then is just a cdkey which you can find on gamersloot
10:43.05Lysitheaargh
10:43.26renchapnop Deviad__
10:43.36renchapsome stores in france allready sells tbc
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10:43.54Lysithea<Breet-> guildy in japan got hers/installed already
10:44.07Lysithealots of people that already got their boxes
10:44.09renchapso you can have a retail version with key
10:44.15Deviad__I bought it from England and I was told they didn't sell the game before 16 (including e-mailing cdkeys) because vivendi is checking on this
10:44.22Adirelle... just fucking up with the channel nickname list width
10:44.29renchapbut the account upgrade page isnt online :)
10:44.39Deviad__and if the store breaches the date they get in trouble
10:44.41Hobinheimwhere can i download the ace libraries? i'm following the instructions on the wiki but they don't seem correct
10:44.45Nomadmy friend in austria already has his collectors
10:44.52Nomadhis brother works in a gameshop
10:45.58Lysitheaour guildmate works in a gameshop too, he took a picture of their room full of open boxes with wowcases in just to make us hate him :(
10:46.07Adirelletest: Baggins
10:46.15AdirelleDeviad: can you say Baggins ? :D
10:46.23renchapBaggins
10:46.33Adirellethx
10:46.39Deviad__baggins
10:46.50Nargiddleysee now you're spamming my highlights :P
10:46.54CIA-1703nevcairiel * r25078 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - character names do actually consist of more then only a-z
10:47.11Sroshsylvanaar, is the timestamps module still a work in progress?
10:47.34Adirellenargiddley, as I added some changes, I'd prefer be warned
10:47.39FatherJimDildo Baggins?
10:48.07Fisker-durcyn you there?
10:48.10Nargiddleyyeah wasnt saying its a bad thing heh
10:48.37Nargiddleyckknight, mind if I commit a bug fix to ExperienceFu ?
10:48.37Adirellebtw, I should add GloryLib too
10:48.44ckknightNargiddley: go ahead
10:48.55ckknightFatherJim: Lord of the G-String!
10:49.23FatherJimLord of the G-String?  Aka star of Bored of the Rings, the National Lampoon parody.
10:49.33Adirelleckknight: I finally merged french localizations into GloryLib trunk, there is probably one thing that could be done better
10:49.47Nomadanyone knows why eepanels doesnt save after i logout and login again :\
10:49.49ckknightprobably, but oh well
10:50.04ckknightFatherJim: Lord of the G-String is a porno
10:50.08Hobinheimwhere can i find the ace libaries...? =(
10:50.09ckknightpretty funny, actually.
10:50.14Adirellein fact, I had a trouble with objective list
10:50.14ckknightHobinheim: on the SVN
10:50.36Adirelleit wasn't refreshed when I reloads inside a battleground
10:50.52Hobinheimshouldn't the instructions be updated then...? cuz i can't find it where it says it should be
10:51.04Hobinheimdo i need an svn client to get them?
10:51.32Adirelleckknight : so I changed all references to GloryLib.battlefieldObjectiveStatus to a call to a function that will initilaize the list if it is needed
10:52.16ckknighthrm, okay
10:52.22Adirelleckknight : for a reason I don't know, initializing at PEW doesn't work
10:52.26SroshHobinheim, go to http://www.wowace.com/files/
10:52.28ckknightPEW PEW
10:52.44AdirellePLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD ? :)
10:52.50Adirelles/?//
10:52.50ckknightyea
10:53.05CIA-1703nargiddley * r25079 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFu.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu: Fix inital xp always being 0 on login, causing session xp to be inflated
10:53.08AdirelleI think something in :IsInBattleGround() doesn't work at that time
10:53.39HobinheimSrosh, and then?
10:53.41Adirelle(btw, Arrowmaster may have fixed the double honor count)
10:53.48Hobinheimi think the tutorial is extremely out of date/inaccurate
10:54.28Sroshdownload Ace2? or what exactly are you looking for?
10:54.45Sroshand which tutorial are you talking about?
10:55.16Hobinheimhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
10:55.24Hobinheimunder the heading bringing ace2 to the praty
10:55.25Hobinheim*party
10:56.05Adirellequick survey : what looting system is used in your guild ?
10:56.27Sroshah, yeah, someone should update the wiki
10:56.52Sroshget http://www.wowace.com/files/Ace2/Ace2-r24454.zip
10:57.01Hobinheimwho would know that... =(
10:57.20ckknightthe demons which live inside us, Hobinheim
10:57.43Nomadwhat do you mean by looting system?
10:57.44ckknightlet's call them "thetans" for sake of argument.
10:57.50nymbialol
10:57.50Hobinheimexorcise demons... anam shital anam shital anam shital...
10:57.51Adirelleloot attribution rules
10:58.00Nomadgreed/need atm
10:58.05Hobinheimkali ma.... shak ti de....
10:58.16Adirellenomad : in 20 and 40-mean instance...
10:58.23Nomadyeah
10:58.27AdirelleoO
10:58.37Nomadwe dont have little kids in our guild :)
10:58.43Adirellelol
10:59.07Adirelleunbelievable
10:59.11Nargiddleylast naxx run i did was /roll for everything while it was on ffa heh, join run with another guild
10:59.27Nomadyeah why assign dkp
10:59.30Adirellejoin run is another matter
10:59.34Nomadwhen you will have to start over
10:59.44Adirellein my guild we have wishlists + classmasters
10:59.53Nargiddleyusually dkp, hybrid zero sum
11:00.12Nomadwishlists sux :)
11:00.15Nargiddleyno item restrictions except in rare cases
11:00.17Adirellebtw, that's untill TBC, we're thinking of modify it for 25-man instances
11:00.38Nomadwhat if that item in your wishlist never drops?
11:00.51Adirelleyou wait
11:01.20Nomadand wait till it drops ^^
11:01.33Adirelleour wishlists are ordered, 10 item long
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11:01.55Adirellewhen you drop any item, you're allowed to put another one at end, following the numbering
11:01.57Nomadwe have 3 warriors waiting the binding from garr after 11 months of mc it never dropped
11:02.27Adirellenotice that classmasters and raidleader can "override" wishlists when needed
11:02.36Nomadyou cant just tell blizzard to drop what you wish or need
11:02.40Nomadits luck after all
11:02.42spliffhi. is there an ace alternative for ct_ra's emergency monitor?
11:03.04haarmneurotech, yes im here, what's up?
11:03.15Nomadwhat does ct_crap emergency monitor do :)
11:03.19Nomadaw ct_raid
11:03.27Adirellenargiddley : what kind of hybrid ?
11:03.34Adirellejust zero sum ?
11:03.42Adirelleor with fixed cost ?
11:03.46Trancerno more spliff, they all got yanked
11:03.51Nargiddleyget dkp from whats spent + bonuses
11:03.51spliffit displays those with lowest life in a list
11:04.00Adirelleoki
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11:04.15Trancerspliff: squishy was the cool Ace version tho
11:04.26Nomadbefore we had zero sum dkp you get dkp from bosses + first kills
11:04.30Nargiddley250 max bid, you spend mid point of your bid and the one below it
11:04.38Nargiddleyor your bid if its the only one
11:04.46Nomadbut after we stopped raiding seriously we decided to go for greed/need
11:04.55Adirellenomad : oh, oki :)
11:05.01spliffTrancer: thanks
11:05.18Adirellewe're rolling for about a month :)
11:05.31Nomaddo you use fixed dkp prices on loots?
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11:06.18AdirelleI was always asking myself if biddings could be er...
11:06.21CIA-1703fatherjim * r25080 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua):
11:06.21CIA-17loudmouth:
11:06.21CIA-17- Updated problem syncing state between Checkboxes and Fubar menu.
11:06.22Adirelle~x fr en abuser
11:06.42CIA-1703moonsorrow * r25081 10Cartographer/Modules/GroupColors.lua:
11:06.42CIA-17Cartographer/Modules/GroupColors:
11:06.42CIA-17- The player icons from the BattlefieldFrame are now colored too
11:06.42CIA-17- Dead or ghost player are now flashing in gray
11:06.43Adirelle... misused
11:06.59Fisker-hoho ckknight
11:07.03Fisker-moonsorrow beat it to you
11:07.07Nargiddleyits silent bidding, so not too much room for abuse
11:07.18Adirelleusing any addon ?
11:07.36Adirellebtw, our guild always had a willing of not using DKPs
11:07.49Nargiddleyofficers use one to track whats spent, bids are just a whisper to the officer taking bids for that item
11:07.58FatherJimCK - got a sec?
11:08.05Adirellethat's what allowed us to grow, despite bigger guilds on the server
11:08.09ckknightFatherJim: meh
11:08.30Chinkunymbia: Manufac seems fixed now for enchanting, thanks a lot :-)
11:08.54Nomadyeah we whisper bids as well
11:08.59FatherJimWell, I just wanted to run a situation by you.  I was just dealing with a problem I noticed, and Fubar seemed to be acting strangely.  I did some testing, and I think I know what it is, let me splain and see what you think.
11:09.16nymbiaChinku: i'm glad.  a friend of mine let me use his character to reproduce it.. turns out that blizzard screwed up some of the item queries in 2.0.3
11:10.09FatherJimWhen I use a toggle menu option, my get function returns a 1 or 0 (not true/false), and Fubar doesn't seem to know what to make of it, unless I convert my return statement from return function() to return function()==1 to force a true/false conversion.
11:10.34FatherJimHow difficult would it be for those to accept 1 or true and 0 or false?
11:11.02nymbiabut 0 is true ;)
11:11.04Deviad__Fisker-, I'm using burning crusade beta and it works! :P
11:11.12Deviad__In case you didn't read it :D
11:11.18FatherJimyou're kidding me, 0 == true?
11:11.24Chinkunymbia: ah, nice one. :-) the community of enchanters will surely be very grateful for this. ;-) best regards to your friend  :-)
11:11.30Nargiddleyfalse and nil are the only things that are false
11:11.32nymbiaChinku: :D
11:11.36Adirellexchat users : which sounds should I set to get notified about my words, and users ?
11:11.36Nargiddleyeverything else is true
11:11.38FatherJimgrr... I hate LUA
11:11.50Nargiddleyits nice for some things
11:11.51FatherJimthat is so semantically different than everything else.
11:11.54ckknightFatherJim: 0 == true, deal with it
11:12.01Nomadadirelle: use the bugsack alert
11:12.02ckknightFatherJim: it makes sense enough.
11:12.21FatherJimwhatever
11:12.22Hobinheimnil is the only false value in lua
11:12.22Hobinheimeverything else, including zero is true
11:12.39Adirellenomad: not the sound itself, but the "event" that triggers playing in the "sound preference" lsit
11:12.43Adirelles/lsit/list/
11:12.45nymbiaFatherJim: the only things that will evaluate to false are false and nil
11:12.48krka<PROTECTED>
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11:12.54Hobinheimfalse is a keyword?
11:12.55FatherJimOK people I get it!
11:13.10krkaand 0 != true, 0 != false :P
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11:14.03krkahmm... 0 ~= true and 0 ~= false
11:14.15Adirellenomad: in fact that's a very bad idea...
11:14.31Adirellehow will I differentiate errors and pings ?  )
11:14.54Chinkunymbia: btw, again on manufac, if I hit /manu standby and then leftclick on the fubar icon, it disappears - is that intended?
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11:17.26ckknightkrka: not not 0 == true
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11:18.11nymbiaChinku: kinda, yeah.  i'm planning on rewriting some parts of manufac that're awkward like that
11:18.14FatherJimYou know, from the response I got in here, I think that's the last time I ever ask a question.
11:18.30Hobinheimis the colon the operator used for oop in lua?
11:18.50nymbia~comfort FatherJim
11:18.53purlThere, there, FatherJim.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
11:19.30haarmHobinheim yes
11:19.33Chinkunymbia: ah, ok. but then, after reactivating the icon via fubar, the menus are empty, reporting manufac to be on standby, whereas /manu reports manufac to be active...
11:19.41haarmHobinheim, sort of :)
11:20.07nymbiaChinku: maybe the plugin's on standby.. they interact badly.
11:20.32haarmHobinheim, there's no real object model though, but the colon operator automatically passes self as the first parameter to methods
11:20.49Hobinheimi'm trying to find like... the documentation on the colon =/
11:21.08Chinkunymbia: doing /manu standby again then throws the bug "cannot unregister TRADE_SKILL_SHOW"...
11:21.35krkawas that (not (not 0)) == true or not (not (0 == true)) ?
11:21.36Hobinheimwow nevermind i found it... very ninja =(
11:21.38Fisker-yay i get to kill Onyxia
11:21.43nymbiaChinku: yeah, that's it trying to go into standby when it already is in standcy
11:22.10Nomadfisker: wow thats really gr8
11:22.24Chinkunymbia: well, it doesn't report it, somehow it forgot that it was in standby before or such. weird thing ;-)
11:22.25Fisker-yeah!
11:22.32Fisker-One last raid before i ditch my rogue
11:22.36Fisker-How epic
11:22.37nymbiaChinku: yup ;)
11:22.46Chinkunymbia: after that everything's screwed up :-) but it's perfectly avoidable if you know what you shouldn't deactivate manufac ;-)
11:23.10nymbiaChinku: its just if you do it in a certain order
11:23.56Chinkunymbia: exactly. probably the rewriting you plan to do will remove some of this odd behavior.
11:24.39ckknightkrka: former
11:27.06HobinheimAceLibrary is an alias for AceLibrary:GetInstance?
11:27.12Hobinheim*** AceLibrary()
11:27.16ckknightyes
11:28.24Hobinheimalso not obviously documented =(
11:28.41Hobinheimshould that be mentioned in the AceLibrary article or somewhere else?
11:29.26odthmm, prat is causing a [ bracket infront of user has come online messages, where do i get rid of it?
11:29.42FinChannelNames
11:30.16FinChannel?
11:30.18FinNot Channel!
11:30.19krkaAceLibrary:GetInstance is illegal lua code
11:30.20FinPlayer!
11:30.52Finright click the FuBar addon, find PlayerNames, the settings are there, or /prat playernames help (I think)
11:31.08Hobinheimkrka, why is it ilegal?
11:31.17Finhey krka!
11:31.40krkahey
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11:31.54Finhow's tricks? did you start playing again?
11:31.56krkaHobinheim: the colon operator needs to be followed with a table key and a function call
11:32.02krkanope
11:32.12Finheh
11:32.27Finkrka: thinking about it for the expansion at all?
11:32.41Hobinheimso... what does WelcomeHome = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") do
11:32.42krkanot really
11:32.49Hobinheimis new a method off of AceLibrary...?
11:32.58Hobinheimor the return object of the AceLibrary function?
11:33.04[Ammo]no a new method for AceAddon
11:33.12[Ammo]returns you a new AceAddon object with aceconsole and aceevent mixed in
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11:33.28Hobinheim...
11:33.59nymbia?
11:34.06Finkrka: not even *tempted* just a *tiny* bit? :P
11:34.18krka'fraid not
11:34.21HobinheimAceLibrary returns the library given by the argument  "AceAddon-2.0"?
11:34.31Finhuh, fair enough then
11:34.39Hobinheimand then new is a call off of THAT object with self, and aceconsole and aceevent?
11:35.04Adirellewhat's actually really stored in a widget table ?
11:35.20nymbiaHobinheim: the arg is the MAJOR_VERSION of the library, like AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0")
11:35.21[Ammo]hobinheim: correct
11:35.39ckknightyes, Hobinheim
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11:36.59AdirelleI mean : can I safely erase a widget content ?
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11:39.02Adirelleccknight: any idea ?
11:39.04Hobinheimso if there's AceLibrary:GetInstance is that populating the global namespace with a function GetInstance?
11:39.10Adirelles/ccknight/ckknight/
11:39.23ckknightwhat's a widget?
11:39.34ckknightHobinheim: no.
11:39.41Adirellea frame
11:39.46Hobinheimor is that the entire function name...
11:39.51ckknightAdirelle: what about it
11:39.57ckknightHobinheim: GetInstance is the function name
11:40.09AdirelleAdirelle : what to make a frame pool to reuse them
11:40.12ckknightHobinheim: AceLibrary is the object which contains said function
11:40.13Adirelles/what/want/
11:40.29ckknightalso odd that you typed your own name in.
11:40.43Adirelleckknight : missing some sleep :)
11:40.56Adirellelast night was too short
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11:40.59ckknightyea, basically you use a texture pool to remove textures from frames and reparent
11:41.03ckknightthen set all settings back to their default
11:41.05ckknightand such
11:41.20ckknightand you have a funcional frame recycle system
11:41.47Hobinheimdeveloping for wow makes me feel like an amateur... =(
11:42.32Adirelleckknight : you either have to known what you changed or set ALL to default at recycling
11:42.39ckknightright.
11:42.49ckknightHobinheim: I was there once
11:42.52ckknightnow look at me
11:42.58ckknightmwahaha!
11:43.00nevcairiel(he is still there)
11:43.20nymbiarofl
11:43.29sergiowhy is wow so fucking laggy with gear swaps ever since 2.0
11:43.32sergioit's horrible
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11:43.46sergioI want to shake my fist at wow 2.0
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11:43.52Hobinheimcan a mod swap gear for you in combat?
11:44.09nevcairielnothing can swap gear in combat
11:44.11nevcairielexcept weapons
11:44.17krkaweapons can swap gear?
11:44.22nevcairielmeh
11:44.26nevcairielyou know what i mean!
11:44.27nevcairiel:)
11:44.30krkais it like: Sword [Use: Swaps gear]
11:44.49ticklso what do you guys think of this piratebay torrent? anyone finished the download yet?
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11:45.03CIA-1703roartindon * r25082 10ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
11:45.03CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
11:45.03CIA-17- Added target of focus frames, disabled by default. Awesome on fights such as thaddius adds - set focus on Feugen or Stalagg and you're all set
11:45.23nevcairielsomeone fix the nil bugs in agUF
11:45.28nevcairieland dont add new features :P
11:45.30sergiooooh nice feature for my assisting
11:45.33moonsorrowfinally, my nick is registered!
11:45.44sergiono that feature is good :) i use focus to assist people
11:45.51Hobinheimi didn't know irc supported color...?
11:46.27nymbiasure
11:46.28nevcairielirc can support almost anything, what the clients support
11:46.28sergio^k in mirc
11:46.35nymbiabut only CIA is allowed to use it ;)
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11:47.05Hobinheim04is this red?
11:47.16nymbiayes
11:47.17Hobinheimback in black
11:47.24nevcairielyour black is white
11:47.30NightHawkTheSane<3 x-chat stripping out stupid color codes
11:47.33nevcairielbut everything is white for me
11:47.34nevcairiel:)
11:47.38Tovortas i haven't tried this "focus" targetting yet - how do i set "focus"? Keyboard shortcut?
11:47.53nymbiaTovort: /focus
11:47.54Hobinheim<PROTECTED>
11:47.58sergiokeybindings or /focus
11:48.13Tovortthanks.
11:48.14nymbiaTovort: i'm a fan of /focus mouseover, personally
11:48.32nymbiaTovort: but there's all kinds of stuff you can do with it
11:48.51CIA-1703jerry * r25083 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data.toc: Talented_Data: fixed embedded libs, InBed should have done this...
11:49.31CIA-1703jerry * r25084 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: fixed bug when copying uncompressed template
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11:56.14CIA-1703fatherjim * r25085 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua):
11:56.14CIA-17loudmouth:
11:56.14CIA-17- Updated with full Char/Class/Set quote support.
11:56.41Chinkuwhere do I find a full documentation of string.format(), esp. the format strings? wowwiki.com or anyplace else?
11:57.56Gnarfozlua.org manual
11:57.57GnarfozI guess
11:57.58Nargiddleyhttp://www.lua.org/pil/20.1.html
11:58.06Gnarfozor PiL
11:58.06ChinkuNargiddley: thx.
11:58.52Nargiddleyhm thats the wrong page :/
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11:59.50ChinkuNargiddley: 20.2 is the place you thought of I suppose ;-)
11:59.54Panyequestion about ag_uf, how do you get combo points to show?
12:00.13Nargiddleywell its the right section, close enough :D
12:00.27GnarfozPanye: my guess is: update ;>
12:00.28Gnarfozthey work for me
12:00.36Nargiddleyprevious page at the bottom has the format strings
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12:02.07Adirelleccknight : what do you think of : http://ace.pastey.net/5075 ?
12:02.32Adirelleincluded some typo :s
12:03.03Adirelle(both in pastey and my sentence)
12:03.14Adirelleckknight : what do you think of : http://ace.pastey.net/5075 (once typo fixed) ?
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12:04.07ckknightsyntax is weird here: frame:ReleaseToPool = self.framerelease
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12:05.23Adirelleckknight : yep that is typo i'm referring to
12:05.27ckknightseems good
12:05.34ckknightjust change : to . in that case
12:05.43ckknightalso, the semicolons you have are unneeded
12:06.02Adirelleckknight : yep, I know, borrowed that habits from PHP
12:06.15Deviad__There's one problem though that I can't check, if when you try to open the portal or whatever it crashes or not
12:06.24ckknightbut we hateses it...
12:06.48Deviad__hateses? O_o
12:07.03DocBruhehe i do a semicolon behind every line as well :-) just can't get used to that syntax without 'em
12:07.04DocBru:-)
12:07.20FatherJimWhat was the phrase... deal with it?
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12:08.45Chinkuhm, is someone here into cartographer coordinates? there'a string.format() issue, but perhaps only on foreign clients...
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12:16.31ckknightdown with foreigners!
12:16.34ckknightwhat's the issue, Chinku?
12:18.15kebinusannymbia: btw it seems that mrplow isnt plowing banks, it insteadi tries to plow your bags
12:18.15nymbiakebinusan: weird... i dont know enough about it's innards to figure that one out :(
12:18.22kebinusanah is that a rabbit thing
12:18.36nymbiaor Wobin
12:18.40nevcairielmrplow is from Wobin iirc
12:18.41kebinusankk
12:18.58WobinIt's a rabbit thing atm
12:19.06Wobinsince he's plonking in PT3
12:19.21WobinI could have a look, but I don't have time this weekend
12:19.29moonsorrowis there an easy way to get the texture from a spell icon?
12:19.47Chinkuckknight: it uses string.format("%s: %.1f, %.1f" ...) for the coords output. problem is the return value of string.format()
12:20.03nevcairielmoonsorrow: depends what you know. then spell name? the action id where the spell is on ?
12:20.04ckknightoh?
12:20.23Chinkuckknight: e.g. string.format("%.1f", 45.6) => 45.6 // string.format("%.1f,", 45.6) => 45,6,
12:20.25dudevonhmm. latest autobar changelog -- - Zorbin's Ultra-Shrinker -- anyone have any idea what that is?
12:20.36dudevoncode shrinker or some new feature
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12:20.44moonsorrowthe spell is in my spell book, so I know the name for sure ;)
12:20.58ckknightoh
12:20.59Chinkuckknight: dunno whether it's only on non-english clients or a "feature" of string.format()...
12:21.32moonsorrowit's a feature afaik
12:21.35ckknightsince your locality describes numbers with a comma instead of a period, it does it that way
12:22.22nevcairielmoonsorrow: if you only have the name, and nothing else, you have to cycle through all spells in the spellbook and find the one you are looking for.
12:22.34Chinkuckknight: any workaround possible? it's not a huge problem or such, it just looks a bit weird. ;-)
12:22.45nevcairieland if you only need the texture once
12:22.47nevcairielcheck thottbot :P
12:23.18moonsorrownevcairiel: How about picking up the spell and then checking the texture, possible?
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12:24.40Worfhi moonsorrow , didn't see you for quite some time... is this just a short visit or is this more? how did your exams go?
12:24.40nevcairielyou could drop it in any action bar, and do GetActionTexture
12:25.04moonsorrowWorf: my 2. nick is FtH|eagle, and I'm always here ;)
12:25.11Worfargh
12:25.15moonsorrowI just got this nick registered today
12:26.44Chinkuargh. that's so silly... if that comma is a switch for the display of numbers, why doesn't it get suppressed in the output string? -.-
12:31.44moonsorrowthe texture name for totemic call is Spell_unused ...
12:31.51nymbialo
12:31.53nymbial
12:32.27nevcairielhaha
12:32.36nevcairielbut its the real texture tho
12:34.16CIA-1703moonsorrow * r25086 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
12:34.16CIA-17Babble-2.2:
12:34.16CIA-17- Added Totemic Call spell
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12:37.26CIA-1703fatherjim * r25087 10loudmouth/ (Locale-enUS.lua loudmouth.lua):
12:37.26CIA-17loudmouth:
12:37.27CIA-17- Finished internal quote set support and added Quote Set help text and Problem text
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12:40.36CIA-1703moonsorrow * r25088 10GotWood/ (GotWood.lua views/CircleView.lua):
12:40.36CIA-17GotWood:
12:40.36CIA-17- Totemic Call removes all active totems
12:40.36CIA-17- Circle view now works again
12:41.32nevcairielhm
12:41.40nevcairielwhats the use of a spell which removes all totems?
12:41.48nevcairieli have never played a shaman, but i dont get it :D
12:42.11kebinusantotems are a pain for aggroing nearby mobs
12:42.45moonsorrowand you get 25% mana back
12:42.51ilifinyea, totemic call is insanely good
12:43.04ilifinshamans worldwide cried of joy
12:43.07Ominousif you have a G15 keyboard what can the special buttons do in wow?
12:43.18ilifinwhich one of the special ones
12:43.20ilifinthe G keys?
12:43.26Ominousthe ones at the left
12:43.33ilifinafaik they don't have a "button"
12:43.38LysitheaSay I want to grab a few cartographer modules from the svn, how do I do that? Via a svn browser or something?
12:43.46ilifinyou can set them to button combinations in the WoW profiler tool tho
12:44.05ilifinand then bind commands using nymbia's spellbinder or what it's called to the key sequences
12:44.10ilifinI used to do that when I had a g15
12:44.16moonsorrowLysithea: download them from wowace.com/files
12:44.33Ominousoki
12:45.00Lysitheaah there ty
12:45.03ilifinwhile you're at it, please force logitech into writing Mac OS X drivers for the keyboard
12:45.09ilifin:/
12:45.10Ominouslol
12:45.12Lysithea"Get it on the SVN: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer/" confused me :)
12:46.12Ominous~seen Nickenyfiken
12:46.34purlnickenyfiken <n=najklord@83.145.59.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 17h 58m 44s ago, saying: 'well if its in trunk i consider it beta atleast'.
12:46.34Chinkuckknight: changing the coords display to a different format is probably a bad idea, what do you think? e.g. string.format("%s: %.1f / %.1f", ...)
12:47.41Hobinheimhow big is the difference between onEnable and onInitialize?
12:47.49Hobinheimi'm not even familiar with mods disabling themselves during play
12:48.09OminousHobinheim: On enable is called when ever a mod leaves standby
12:48.10FatherJimBy the time you get an OnEnable, your variables should already be loaded.
12:48.10CIA-1703ag * r25089 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua:
12:48.10CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
12:48.10CIA-17<PROTECTED>
12:48.50Hobinheimso should i move all my init stuff to onEnable?
12:48.54FatherJim~seen Kaelten
12:48.56purlkaelten <n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 41m 21s ago, saying: 'night guys'.
12:49.03FatherJimcool. :)
12:49.46FatherJimThat's where I do all my initialization, because Ace has already taken care of most other stuff being done before I get that event, so I know I'm in a good state and ready to go
12:50.42Hobinheimbtw when does BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN fire? only at the start of cooldowns?
12:50.43FatherJimLater folks.
12:50.49Hobinheimlater FatherJim, thx
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12:51.28ag`Hobinheim: things that should only be done once for your addon should be in init, things that should be done everytime your addon is enabled after having been disabled should be in OnEnable
12:52.06Hobinheimag`, the whole coming out of being disabled concept is so like... foreign/rare to me.
12:52.12DocBrubtw: how can i "disable" my addon? is there a generic ace slashcommand to do so? or do i need to program something on my side
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12:52.15Hobinheimwhy would you disable my precious?!
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12:52.57CodayusDocBru: Yes, it's generic.  "/youraddon standby", if memory serves.
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12:53.16DocBruthanks i will try immediately ;)
12:53.28DocBrubut i need to override AceDB's OnDisable right?
12:53.44CodayusActually, I think that is AceDB's...or something?
12:54.00CodayusSorry, it's 8am here and I'm still up, I might be misunderstanding your question.  :-)
12:54.00DocBruoh actually i do not have a slash command for my addon lol
12:54.09CodayusAh, that's a key step.   :-)
12:54.39ag`Hobinheim: yeah, but OnEnable should just have much of your "start" code
12:55.10nevcairielag`: add an feature to disable alt lock-override, i expect the frames to not be movable at all when they are locked .. i accidently move them all the time with alt down :(
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12:56.26DocBrui have some performance issue with my addon when using cartographer... is there an easy way of troubleshooting what causes it? like intercepting every method and printing its nam eor so...
12:57.44robotuschbtw, anyone recommendations for a cooldown count addon, seing that the internal one i Bartender apparently got removed
12:58.01Chinkurobotusch: OmniCC
12:58.12[dRaCo]or cooldowncount
12:58.37DocBruwhy has it been removed? i deleted omnicc in favor of it :-) didnt notice though yet
12:58.50[dRaCo]bad performance, afaik
12:58.55DocBruk
12:59.00CodayusHard to beat OmniCC.
12:59.02ChinkuDocBru: sylvanaar posted a comment on this, check the commit notes.
12:59.03CIA-1703tornhoof * r25090 10Yata/ (TotemBar.lua TotemButton.lua):
12:59.03CIA-17Yata:
12:59.03CIA-17- Cleaned up code a bit
12:59.39DocBruok chinku thanks
12:59.41Chinkuhad  to do with some ugly stuff that had to be done concerning the pet bar cooldowns IIRC
13:00.09robotuschty
13:00.36CodayusHobinheim: If a concrete example helps, in an addon I wrote I called self:RegisterChatCommand() in OnInitialize(), but self:RegisterEvent() in OnEnable().  The thinking being that I always want the slash command to work, but I have no interest in events if I'm disabled.
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13:01.07robotuschgot a bit confused playing in wsg earlier (3-0 win with me as a BL, oh yeah ;D), seing that I was suddently unable to cast anything - apparently I got CS'd, but I'm used to seing big red numbers all across the board when that happen
13:01.32CodayusHeh
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13:13.28[dRaCo]hm, just dl'ed the latest version of aUF and there is a small bar with nothing on it below my charframe
13:13.58robotuschthe castbar?
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13:16.38[dRaCo]hm
13:16.44[dRaCo]aUF has a castbar?
13:16.51nymbiayer lookin at it
13:17.20[dRaCo]nope, not the castbar
13:17.29[dRaCo]it's a frame of it's own
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13:17.45[dRaCo]...
13:18.11nymbiadidnt someone add a focus-target frame earlier?  it might be that.  but it shouldnt be showing if you dont have a foucs
13:18.20nymbias/foucs/focus/
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13:18.31[dRaCo]there's a focus target
13:19.04andremar[dRaCo]: there was a bug with ag_uf eariler today where it would render drag handles for party and raid groups onlogin
13:19.04[dRaCo]but I tried disabling it and the frame didn't disappear
13:19.15andremarbut ag commited a fix an hour ago or something
13:19.31andremartry to toggle hide frames on party and raid, see if that helps
13:19.41[dRaCo]latest version, checked out 20 mins ago
13:19.44[dRaCo]ok, will do
13:20.21[dRaCo]hiding the party frames completly helped.
13:20.34[dRaCo]thanks
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13:30.21trhmoin moin... err.. i meant hi ;)
13:30.26Chinkunymbia: what do you think of an option to manufac's "link result" feature to make it send the items needed in a multiline output to the curernt chat line?
13:30.35Sroshmoin trh ;)
13:30.49Gnarfozmoin ^^
13:30.58Chinkuargh -.-
13:31.31trhGnarfoz: uhm.. i think i know your name from somewhere.. do you play on eu-aegwynn?
13:31.41Gnarfozdid
13:32.14trhthat explains it ;)
13:32.20Gnarfoztransferred to Das Syndikat when paid transfers got available, after I started a new character there and it 'accidentally' became my new main character
13:32.31Gnarfozwho were/are you there? ;)
13:32.42Smeltnhmm is there a fix for eepanels out yet?
13:32.54Gnarfozmy eepanels works fine, what's wrong with yours?
13:33.10trhGnarfoz: i play on horde eu-aegwynn (since release, with pauses) but different chars :)
13:33.25Smeltnsame problem as all these guys http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3141.80
13:33.37Smeltnand these guys http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=65159709&sid=1
13:33.57Gnarfoztrh: hm, multiple chars don't make it easy ;) 'trh' doesn't ring a bell, though
13:33.59Matrix110its de-aegwynn!
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13:34.21zirahhoi
13:34.28trhGnarfoz: i played a rogue "vana" a long time, but then wow sucked so i gave the acc to a friend
13:34.35trhGnarfoz: then alter i startet a hunter called "vane"
13:34.55GnarfozMatrix110: nah, eu-aegwynn, there's us-aegwynn, too
13:34.59trhGnarfoz: whom i still play (with abt 3 months pause)
13:35.15Gnarfozhm, possibly met in a BG a long time ago ;)
13:35.28trhGnarfoz: guess so.. or i read the name on the wiki or something
13:35.34CIA-1703totalpackage * r25091 10Capping/ (6 files):
13:35.34CIA-17Capping
13:35.34CIA-17- removed scoreboard temp fix since it was patched
13:35.34CIA-17- removed having to unnecessarily check Wing Commander names for auto-turn-ins (removed the localization for it too)
13:35.34CIA-17- updated DE localization for calvary commanders
13:35.41Gnarfozyeah, I've been active there, too
13:35.49Matrix110Gnarfoz i know why eu but its a de server not a eu server eu=eng. realms besides the realms where the russians took over everything
13:35.49GnarfozI made the logo, even
13:36.01Gnarfozit's a eu server alright?
13:36.04VIceBoxanyone knows s/t about that weird CooldownCount bug?
13:36.06Gnarfozthere are only eu-servers :D
13:36.18Matrix110i still dont know how people could even start on de servers...
13:36.27zirahDoes anybody has an idea for an "inOutland" check? For AQ I do a string comparsion. But i don't like that.
13:36.39Gnarfozor more accurately, there are no two eu-servers with the same name ;>
13:36.49SroshDE-RP realms are ok
13:36.51tlund~seen totalpackage
13:37.37purli haven't seen 'totalpackage', tlund
13:37.37trhMatrix110: easy... my guild started there :)
13:37.38GnarfozI play on one, now
13:37.38GnarfozRP-PvP, even
13:37.38tlundtotalpackage: are you here? :)
13:37.38Matrix110i wouldve told them to start at a eng. realm
13:37.38Gnarfozbut it sucks for endgame pve :\ mostly total retards with no spine or effort 8\
13:38.21CIA-1703totalpackage * r25092 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua frame.lua):
13:38.21CIA-17Cellular
13:38.21CIA-17- better support for custom placement of the default chat editbox
13:38.21CIA-17- increased number of history lines when requesting history
13:38.22CIA-1703cncfanatics * r25093 10FlexBar2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FlexBar2: Wrote Casting & Channeling highlighting code.
13:38.42CIA-1703zalkalin * r25094 10devnull/devnull.toc: devnull: Now with updated Interface number. For great justice.
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13:45.29Sarozvhaarr, ping
13:46.26moonsorrowis totalpackage sometimes in irc?
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13:47.38Silviu-i saw him, but with different nick
13:47.43CIA-1703fenlis * r25095 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt : Updated locales koKR
13:47.46Silviu-Don`t remember which tho
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13:49.23CIA-1703cncfanatics * r25096 10FlexBar2/ (ButtonEventHandler.lua Libs/): FlexBar2: Added SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 to the externals
13:50.12cncfanaticswho wrote SpecialEvents ?
13:52.10Silviu-## Author: Tekkub Stoutwrithe
13:53.21CIA-1703renchap * r25097 10Postal/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Postal: frFR translation
13:55.12Lysitheaoh snap, 2.2kb/s wowace dls always this slow or just some badass load going on? :)
13:56.25Industrialwhat do you think?
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13:56.33Lysitheaheavy load :)
13:56.38Industrialtadah, answer.
13:57.11Silviu-:)
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13:57.49nuOHEPzirah, there is no, but http://ace.pastey.net/5078 should work
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13:59.50CIA-1703cncfanatics * r25098 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.toc Libs/):
13:59.50CIA-17FlexBar2: Added Deformat to externals
13:59.50CIA-17Added Metrognome to externals
13:59.50CIA-17Added gratuity to externals
13:59.50DocBruor maybe have a look into tourist: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Tourist-2.0#:IsInOutland.28.22zone.22.29
13:59.54Chinkuquestion: if there's no sv file for a given addon, does the .bak file get loaded instead, if available?
13:59.54suiAguf: does anybody know if the yaABF Windows Layout has been changed? i can't expand it horicontally anymore, it stays at the same width
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14:00.28CIA-1703arjuna * r25099 10simpleMinimap/modules/skins.lua:
14:00.28CIA-17simpleMinimap:
14:00.28CIA-17- module active typo in skins module
14:00.37suiinstead it expands the dark background shadow
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14:02.29Wogroiplsui: same goes for the perfectraid layout
14:02.59WogroiplI guess there are some anchors missing in the layout file
14:03.05suiis it intended, or is it a bug ?
14:03.13suii see :/
14:03.27suiguess i'll need to use an older version then
14:03.28WogroiplI think it's been "forgotten" ;)
14:04.03suithanks for the info, happy to hear i'm not the only person who has experienced this ^^
14:04.35Wogroiplsui: I'm actually missing the entire YaABF layout in my version ;)
14:04.58suiO.o
14:05.13suir23745 works as intended for me :)
14:05.27Wogroiplor maybe that's just because I have overwritten the layouts folder with an older one
14:05.32suithough i didn't test the perfectraid layout
14:05.40Wogroiplto get my own theme back in therte
14:05.43Wogroiplthere*
14:06.54suii prefer yaABF because its easy to read, did you try to reinstall it from scratch with an older version ?
14:07.09suior don't you use the yaABF layout at all
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14:10.34Chinku~seen kodewulf
14:10.43purlkodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-62-19.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 3h 54m 50s ago, saying: 'Mimesis: i'll see your soul and raise you a soul and fluffy bunny slippers... :) '.
14:11.07Hobinheimis there a difference between "  self.   "   notation and "       MyAddon.    " notation?
14:11.23cncfanaticsthere is in a few rare cases (AceOO being one)
14:11.31cncfanaticsand for subtables
14:12.21Hobinheimlike if i'm referring to my own variables... do i use self, or the name of my addon where i instantiated?
14:13.02cncfanaticsi'd use self
14:13.09cncfanaticsso if u rename ur addon ur not anoyed at all
14:15.29Wogroiplsui: I don't use the yaABF layout anyway
14:15.31sylvanaarChinku: i havent a clue why that bak file is there
14:15.45grollgah i hate to update cartographer when the site is slow :P takes aaages
14:15.55sylvanaargroll: use a mirror
14:16.12grollusing the updater heh and dont know of any mirrors
14:16.33Gnarfozit's faster then it used to be, since ckk magicked the instance maps to be created on the fly
14:16.52andremarhms, the map overlay for treasure in BRD isnt working
14:16.55Gnarfoz(are you gonna complete that, anyway? ^^ or is something missing preventing you from doing so, ckknight?)
14:16.58sylvanaargroll: i need testers for 1.7 WAU -> pprovost didnt want me talking about it in here but nobody is in the channel we made
14:17.07grolli been downloading it for like 20 minutes soon i think
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14:17.19grollsylvanaar givf :D
14:17.30cncfanaticssylvanaar, does it work on linux ?
14:17.33cncfanaticsif so, gimme :p
14:17.52sylvanaari heard it works on ym
14:18.11Silviu-~seen kemayo
14:18.17purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 12h 48m 50s, last said: 'Hmm.  agUF now shows group anchors for groups even when they're closed.'.
14:18.47suiwine WowAceUpdater.exe @cncfanatics :D
14:19.03Silviu-~seen Xuerian
14:19.05purlxuerian <n=core@12-196-151-196.psknet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 7d 15h 51m 39s ago, saying: 'oree: if you're dynamically generating frames in any quantity, you want to reuse as many as possible.'.
14:19.06cncfanaticswine won't work with .net stuff sui :p
14:19.18cncfanaticsbut there are other things on linux that can run .net apps
14:19.24suidamn *g*
14:19.31cncfanaticssylvanaar, where to get it ?
14:20.04TheKarnsurely you could write a shell script to wget the latest addons
14:20.19cncfanaticsthat ain't the point, i'm used to just dl'ing zips when I feel like it
14:20.29cncfanaticsu could write a batch script to do that too in windows -.-
14:20.37LysitheaAnyone here know if the pregenerated notes for mining and herbalism from the carto thread still works? have the modules changed?
14:20.52Chinkuwtf...
14:21.32Chinkuhas anyone else seen the effect of cartographer_vendors spawning map notes from nowhere?
14:23.16Gngskwandering vendor?
14:23.30Chinkuproblem is as follows: delete every SV file related to cart_vendors, including .bak files. login: no vendor notes on the map. reloadui: map notes spawn for some specific vendors I saw some time before.
14:23.38ChinkuGngsk: nope, that's not it.
14:24.05Chinkuobviously I seem to miss something, I just can't see what it is.
14:24.17Chinkulocalization stuff possibly...
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14:25.03GnarfozChinku: per character SVs?
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14:25.29ChinkuGnarfoz: nope.
14:25.48Hobinheimwhoever thought of this whole wowace thing is a genius
14:25.51packetlssnotessharing
14:25.56Hobinheimi mean addon dev is still hard but now it's like less hard
14:26.07Gnarfozthat's the whole idea, I guess
14:26.07Gnarfoz:>
14:26.12Hajitoruskind of like visual basic?
14:26.18Gnarfozno, not that way
14:26.19Gnarfoz:\
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14:26.37Hajitorusaww shucks :(
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14:27.28Chinkupacketless: thought of it, too,  but I wonder why it only happens for some specific vendors (exactly 4 in IF)? all other disappeared correctly upon deletion of the sv file.
14:27.50dudevonhttp://upgrade.wow-europe.com/ !!
14:27.56Gnarfozperhaps those are the 4 the one sharing you the notes has?
14:27.57vhaarrSaroz: pong
14:28.08vhaarr~seen toadkiller
14:28.17purltoadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-178-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 51m 22s ago, saying: 'well in that case jsut cut & paste it'.
14:28.17Gnarfozdudevon: thanks. :> *sets homepage*
14:28.17dudevonhehe
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14:30.13ChinkuGnarfoz: so then why does it only happen upon reloading ui? or how comes the coincidence, resp.,  that the one sharing them is broadcasting his DB just the very moment I reloadu?
14:30.33Gnarfozdunno how the notesharing module works, haven't used it
14:30.55Gnarfozperhaps it sends 'hi I'm here, has anyone got any nodes' on the channel it uses whenever someone logs in (or reloads his ui, for that matter)
14:31.07Smeltnok
14:31.12Smeltnso found the problem with eepanels
14:31.29Smeltnand it has to do with unlocking and moving them manually compared to doing it by typing in values
14:31.36Gnarfozthat would be awesomely overhead-ish, though, wouldn't think the author would implement it that way
14:32.04ChinkuGnarfoz: I assume it doesn't, because upon fresh login after deleting sv file I don't get those notes added, only upon reloadui. o.O
14:32.17Gnarfozweird.
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14:32.24Gnarfozyou did terminate wow.exe, though?
14:32.30Gnarfoznot just log out to the login screen
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14:33.14ChinkuGnarfoz: yes I did. quit wow, deleted sv file(s), logged in. nothing happened, no vendors on the map. reloadui, and *ding* they appeared.
14:33.39Chinkuas I said: brain twisted. ;-)
14:35.48yacoobhmmm...
14:36.04yacoobam I missing things, or there's no reason (lorewise) for BE to join Horde?
14:36.23[sleeporschool]mAs far as I know, it was because of Night Elves.
14:36.29Gnarfoznah
14:36.33nevcairielwell the BE wouldnt want to join alliance because of the Nighe Elves
14:36.36[sleeporschool]mno
14:36.41Gnarfozthey felt left alone or even betrayed by how the alliance handled them in TFT
14:36.42[sleeporschool]mbecause they split off of the NEs
14:36.43Gnarfozor in wc3
14:36.46Gnarfozoslt
14:36.47[sleeporschool]mbecause they were all hopped up on magic
14:37.02Gnarfozat least that's what blizzard said
14:37.08mattlesDoes anyone happen to know what happened to Sprocket?
14:37.10yacoobbut they main goal is to join other BEs in Outland, and have fun with Illidian, right?
14:37.19TainReally more that the BEs hate the other elves moreso than they like the Horde.
14:37.31Gnarfozyeah
14:37.32TainI still think it's a stretch lore-wise.  But ehn.
14:37.33Gnarfozwhatever
14:37.35mattlesIt's the same way with the Forsaken.
14:37.41Gnarfozblizzard's lore retcons are always crappy :D
14:37.46yacoobTain, well, it looks like they're pretty short-sighted :)
14:38.01ChinkuARGH!
14:38.04TainShort-sighted makes more money in this case.
14:38.22mattlesI'm sure they'll develop it more somehow
14:38.24TainMaking the lore fit the game is easier than making the game fit the lore.
14:38.24nee-lapIs there a way to do the AV queue without an addon? group-queue that is?
14:38.26ChinkuGnarfoz: those vendors somehow got stored in cartographer's SV file...
14:38.49cladhairenee-lap: not anymore
14:38.51yacoobTain, i'm one of those rare cases that like consistency, and dislike retconning :))
14:38.55nee-lapok
14:39.11nee-lapI knew the method used was broken, but I hoped there was something else
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14:39.32SmeltnI still think alliance should have gotten BE
14:39.36TainI'd agree yacoob, but the vast majority of players don't care.  Or even know that there was anything before WoW.
14:39.46Smeltnjust to keep the hole horde and alliance look
14:39.51mattlesWhat's a Warcraft?
14:39.53Smeltn(whole)
14:39.59yacoobTain, to be honest, I didn't play any of the warcrafts before wow :P
14:40.08mattleshaha
14:40.09yacoobbut still, it's just stretched.
14:40.29krkaBE have a connection to Undead. BE have issues with Draenei and NE. BE are pissed at humans/dwarves/gnomes since war3/tft
14:40.40TainYeah well the Dreanei or whatever aren't a lot better.
14:40.45SmeltnI have a question about Clearfont
14:40.59Smeltncan I add a font of my own and make it work?
14:41.02yacoobas someone on the forum has written
14:41.03Smeltnlike Tahoma ?
14:41.05vhaarrSmeltn: yes
14:41.23yacoob'I can write similar half-a-page explanation to justify any race-profession combination you pick.' :D
14:41.26krkadraenei hate orcs and blood elves, and probably pretty neutral about the rest
14:41.27SmeltnI use Tahoma as my windows everything font, and would like to use it in game
14:41.30yacoobI want tauren rogues and undead hunters! :D
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14:41.43TainI think any class should be able to be anything.
14:41.52TainWell... undead druid doesn't make a lot of sense.
14:41.55TainBut other than that!
14:42.08yacoobit makes as much sense as BE palladin :)
14:42.14renchapgnome druid ?
14:42.15vhaarrThink about it; Gnomes can already be warriors - why shouldn't Taurens be able to play Rogues?
14:42.20mattlesAs long as I don't have to stare at a cow to play a druid :(
14:42.20TainNah anyone should be able to be a Paladin.
14:42.21Lysitheawru be warrior :(
14:42.23krkadraenei shaman make little sense
14:42.28yacoobif you can "twist teachings of light" then you can also "bend the forces of nature"
14:42.28SmeltnAll you are going to see now is female BE Paladins
14:42.36yacoob("Bend over, mother Nature!" :D)
14:42.38TainAll a Paladin means is you're doing the will of your god.  There's nothing saying it all has to be the same god.
14:42.48Mikmatoo bad that everyone will make a draenei shaman now :P
14:42.53Smeltnyou are correct Tain
14:42.59krkanot really true Tain, Paladins are a human order
14:43.06krkathey just recently let Dwarves in
14:43.08TainYeah now the Alliance gets to find out how much Shamans suck for raids.
14:43.09yacoobTain, well, 'palladin' has quite a fixed meaning for me.
14:43.22krkawhy would the human/dwarven Paladin order let blood elves in?
14:43.27krkawhen they're at war with them
14:43.28TainWho said they are?
14:43.35TainI just explained why.
14:43.41yacoobalthough, I'm happy to call scarlet crusade palladins :)
14:43.56yacoobanyway
14:44.05yacoobimagine rogue tauren destealth before your eyes
14:44.10yacoobTHAT would give you a heart attack.
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14:44.22Lysitheahaha
14:44.26sbu<mikma>morning assclowns</mikma> ;o
14:44.34sbuuh, he is here
14:44.41Mikmaofc i am
14:44.45Mikmaand i have log too :)
14:44.57yacooband you're not afraid to use it, Mikma?
14:44.57sbudamn it :p
14:45.05Mikmano
14:45.27yacooboh brave sir Mikma, he was not afraid to die
14:45.40yacoobhe was not afraid at all, to be killed in a nasty way
14:45.45sbuWTS lvl 67 green necklace w/ AP + agi :p
14:45.49yacoobbrave, brave, brave, brave sir Mikma...
14:46.28Chinkubleh. I don't think there's something is dislike more than manually editing SV files...
14:47.15TainThere is a great sv file editor out there I used, it breaks everything down into trees for you.
14:47.34vhaarrLike regedit?
14:47.49TainYeah exactly
14:47.54vhaarrneat
14:48.28ChinkuTain: mh, nice.
14:49.18vhaarr"Of course, there are also some on the opposite side of the fence who view the Paladin to be overpowered, although complaints tend to focus more towards the length of time it takes to kill a Paladin, rather than their actual effectiveness in combat." - from the Wikipedia article on WoW paladins.
14:49.20vhaarr:P
14:51.14CIA-1703sayclub * r25100 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua:
14:51.14CIA-17GridStatusHots :
14:51.14CIA-17- Update locals koKR
14:51.14CIA-17- need another language translation
14:54.52axxothats pre 2.0 surely
14:54.59axxopaladins now are imba in pvp
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15:00.48CIA-1703rabbit * r25102 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: .FuBarPlugin-2.0: deDE update.
15:00.56[dRaCo]uh, are there any known bugs with the latest aguf and party's pets?
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15:02.00Hobinheimdamn you patch day..... damn you!
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15:04.19WorfHobinheim: as long as this doesn't become a patch week ... :^)
15:04.20_neuron_[dRaCo], party pets hasn't worked since 2.0 cuz of blizzard's secure frame bugs
15:04.28CIA-1703ag * r25103 10ag_UnitFrames/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
15:04.28CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
15:04.28CIA-17<PROTECTED>
15:04.28CIA-17<PROTECTED>
15:05.10Worf_neuron_: didn't they tell to fix that with 2.0.3?
15:05.20_neuron_Worf, yes, but as far as I know they didn't
15:05.24_neuron_and are now saying 2.0.5 or something
15:05.24Worfeek
15:05.26[dRaCo]oh, ic
15:05.32[dRaCo]is there any workaround?
15:05.44CIA-1703arjuna * r25104 10simpleMinimap/ (localizations.lua simpleMinimap.lua):
15:05.45CIA-17simpleMinimap:
15:05.45CIA-17- removed some button resizing stuff that doesn't work
15:05.51_neuron_only using blizzard's default ui
15:06.14Worfwhich is currently in a bad state too
15:06.18_neuron_yeah, heh
15:06.38_neuron_anyone know how often the script updating wowace.com/files runs?
15:06.58Matrix110every 20ish imnutes
15:07.04Matrix110*minutes
15:07.26CIA-1703gagorian * r25105 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc ReadMe.txt):
15:07.26CIA-17DrDamage:
15:07.26CIA-17-Fixed error with judgement of the crusader debuff. Added support for macros with tooltips generated by #showtooltip spellname. Now only adds tooltip if you use #showtooltip (better performance).
15:08.14Worf[dRaCo]: my workaround currently is setting the pet in question as focus, and using a focus unit frame... sucks tough...
15:09.18cncfanatics~seen Tekkub
15:09.41purltekkub is currently on #wowace (1h 1m 33s) #wowwiki (1h 1m 33s), last said: 'meh?'.
15:09.42Tekkubwhat?
15:10.01cncfanaticsTekkub, I got some code with SpecialEvents-Aura and i'm wonderign why it ain't working, could you help ?
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15:10.23Tekkubmaybe, who knows, the current SEA isn't my code
15:10.51cncfanaticshttp://ace.pastey.net/5081
15:11.07grollhmm did autobar go back to using normal key settings?
15:11.12cncfanaticsthe code triggers with ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED
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15:11.56Tekkubthere is a player has buff function in the blizzy API now
15:12.06Tekkubonly player though, can't do other units
15:13.00cncfanatics:o
15:13.07cncfanaticswhat is it called ?
15:13.29cncfanaticsPlayerHasBuff i'd guess ?
15:14.12Tekkubthink so
15:14.34cncfanaticsnope, thats nil :
15:15.17bveranyone know what they fixed in 2.0.5?
15:16.18Tainhttp://worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/
15:16.58nevcairieldid US get 2.0.5 already?
15:17.00MysticfoxTrying to login with the 2.0.5 client gives "Disconnected from server".
15:17.17chris|offyep
15:17.29chris|offhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=66116830&sid=1 :)
15:17.31CIA-1703ammo * r25106 10Squeenix/Squeenix.toc: Squeenix: toc to 20003
15:17.42nevcairielwtb for EU
15:17.49chris|offu dont want it:)
15:18.02nevcairielgenerally we get the fixed version
15:18.05nevcairieland you the bugs
15:18.05nevcairiel:D
15:18.12chris|offhaha ;>
15:18.18[dRaCo]great idea, worf
15:18.20[dRaCo]thanks
15:18.27[dRaCo]at least i can heal it now
15:18.47MysticfoxI'm watching this topic in the General forums growing a page per minute.
15:19.00nevcairielhrm
15:20.05Smeltnwhich thread Mystic?
15:20.24Worf[dRaCo]: what also works to some degree is to not select the units you want to heal, but the enemies and to heal their target... ( you can do quite a lot with makros )
15:20.34MysticfoxThe one chris|off posted
15:22.08Smeltnlol
15:22.29Hobinheimis there a command that lets me run the slash commands of other addons?
15:22.37Laricwhat profiling options are there for addons?
15:23.04KinkxWhats new in 2.0.5? They fix the raid tab?
15:23.20nevcairielfix for battleground dongs
15:23.35renchaphttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.5_%28Release_Notes%29#References
15:23.41KinkxThanks :)
15:23.59vhaarrHobinheim: Yeah, but you have to know that addons entry in SlashCmdList.
15:24.24Hobinheimi can't just... like... "type it out" ?
15:24.42cncfanaticsTekkub, are you sure there is a way in the api to get player buffs ?
15:24.43cncfanaticsI can't find it
15:25.06HobinheimTekkub, booyah =)
15:26.13nevcairielhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerBuff
15:26.43cncfanaticsnevcairiel, thats not what I mean :p
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15:26.52nevcairielwhat then?
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15:27.28nevcairielUnitBuff("player") is also there.
15:27.37cncfanaticsthere seems to be a PlayerHasBuff function I heard
15:27.42cncfanaticsbut I can't find how its called -.-
15:28.16nevcairielGetPlayerBuffName() ?
15:28.34cncfanaticsu still need a buffId for that, means i'll have to loop anywya
15:28.53nevcairielGetPlayerBuffName("Gift of the Wild") works for me
15:29.34cncfanaticshmmm, I got the buff's texture only, how would I do it ?
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15:30.18nevcairielyou cant use that
15:30.25nee-lapDo you get the bonus honor if you lose a bg?
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15:30.32CIA-1703sayclub * r25107 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
15:30.32CIA-17Babble-2.2:
15:30.32CIA-17- Babble-Spell-2.2 : Update locals koKR
15:31.10nevcairielnee-lap: generally yes
15:31.20nee-laper
15:31.34nee-lapIt's either yes or no I think, so why the generally?
15:32.08nevcairielyou get even more bonus honor when you win
15:32.16nevcairielbut the honor you already have, you keep
15:32.31haste/quit
15:32.48nee-lapok
15:33.41Lysitheakagaro you here?
15:33.46kagaroyup
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15:34.03LysitheaI cant get my mining notes shared with a guildmate
15:34.19kagarois he filteting them out ?
15:34.20LysitheaUsing engb client, latests carto and mining revision
15:34.24Lysitheanope
15:34.53LysitheaWe just recently downloaded the full package and setting it up for our small guild in preparation for tbc
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15:35.04kagaroso he has mining enabled and has filer set to none, and in noteshare has receive filter set to allow mining notes?
15:35.08LysitheaTell me which info you need and I'll give it yo you :)
15:35.20LysitheaYepp
15:35.24LysitheaIll double check
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15:36.10kagarocrap another updat e?
15:36.54Lysitheayepp, everthing enabled
15:36.58kagaroalso what channel are you set to broadcast on, and are you trying to do a dump or auto notes on gather?
15:37.29Lysitheatested both guild and group
15:37.31Lysitheadump
15:37.35LysitheaOn gather worked
15:37.39kagaroill assume you have mining enabled yourself
15:37.42LysitheaYeapp
15:37.54LysitheaWe also both are miners
15:38.24kagaroyou doing a zone he doesnt have ?
15:38.38LysitheaOn gather worked, then I downloaded the pregenerated file for mining (the ALL version)
15:38.40Lysitheasame zone
15:38.43Lysitheain durotar
15:38.58Hjaltesylvanaar: I've just installed cellular, a new whisper-addon, but i keep getting this error with prat when i whisper someone: http://ace.pastey.net/5083 - Yours or the authors fault? :)
15:39.19kagarohmmm the only thing i can think of is I did put a duplicate prevention section in so if he has the same notes it wont override his notes
15:40.02LysitheaHe only got 2 notes in durotar, I got tons from the mining file, shall I tell him to delete those 2notes and try again?
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15:40.19kagarohold on im double checkint the broadcast code
15:40.24Lysitheaok
15:41.40kagarowhat client locale is he on ?
15:41.50LysitheaenGB same as me
15:42.05kagaroenGB is just enUS soo that isnt the problem
15:42.31sylvanaarHjalte: well, i can check for nil - but nil isnt an expected value
15:42.32kagarodid you just now loadup that saved file?
15:42.48Lysitheathe full note one? yeah
15:42.54LysitheaIll try a relogg
15:43.02Lysitheathink it needs to be "saved" ?
15:43.12kagarotry that pls, it may not have organized it into the right DB yet
15:43.16Hjaltesylvanaar: I tried disabling the urlcopy module, but the problem persisted
15:43.18KinkxAnyone else have the wrong textures on their buff icons sometimes since patch 2.0.3?
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15:43.37sylvanaarI was thinking that I would try to talk with the author of WIM or some mod like that and make Prat compatible whisper mod
15:44.15Lysitheastill nothing
15:44.17Hjaltesylvanaar: cellular is ace.. But i'd like just some kind of improved whisper-system. I often miss whispers just appearing in the default chat channel.
15:45.05kagarohmm let me add a debug setting that you could try
15:45.28BakkodaSleephmmmm im gettin an unable to validate game version all of a sudden
15:45.59Lysitheak, do we both need it?
15:46.48sylvanaarHjalte: you know its in theory not possible to get to that line in the code imo
15:46.51Lysithea(carto is the only addon loaded too btw)
15:47.25Hjaltesylvanaar: Heh. Oh well, i'll try and post it on the forums. Maybe the author of cellular, totalpackage, can figure it out.
15:47.50cncfanaticshmmm, where do I report bugs in libraries ?
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15:48.06nevcairielto the author of the library
15:48.14cncfanaticsTekkub ! :p
15:48.32Tekkubwhat?
15:49.02cncfanaticsSpecialEvents-Aura's HasBuff function is buggy a bit
15:49.15sylvanaarHjalte: what does ModuleOnEnable look like?
15:49.28cncfanaticsseems it updates too late, it works when using it normaly but not when using it at the ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED event for newly gained buffs
15:50.01Hjaltesylvanaar: Huh? ModuleOnEnable?
15:50.17sylvanaar=yeah, i was gonna ask that guy if he wanted to make his mods work with prat, he has some that i like chat sounds etx
15:50.32CIA-1703kagaro * r25108 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: added some messages for when notifications re enabled
15:50.40vhaarrcncfanatics: That's right, there's a 0.2sec delay.
15:50.48vhaarrcncfanatics: or 0-0.2sec.
15:50.55sylvanaarfunction Prat_UrlCopy:OnModuleEnable()
15:50.56sylvanaar--self:RegisterEvent("Prat_PreAddMessage")
15:51.04Lysitheakagaro just for me to go to wowace.com/files and grab it?
15:51.19kagarogive it a min to process
15:51.22vhaarr20min
15:51.30CIA-1703adirelle * r25109 10Baggins/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
15:51.30CIA-17Baggins:
15:51.30CIA-17- shift+click on close button closes all bags,
15:51.30CIA-17- added bag skinning support,
15:51.30CIA-17- added two built-in skins: a default one and a blizzard-like one,
15:51.31CIA-17- added item button pool to recycle button frames between sections.
15:51.41Lysitheak, do both of us need to use that? or just me?
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15:52.47BankZZLooks like the servers are fubard
15:52.53kagarojust him really. Anyone know when the files mirror updates?
15:53.13renchapwhich mirror ?
15:53.30kagarothe wowace.com/files
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15:53.35durcynevery 20 minutes
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15:53.50Laricis the tbc beta ended?
15:53.57phyberis there an article somewhere on setting up an SVN mirror?  Maybe someone is around that runs one of the current mirrors.
15:54.03nevcairielye it ended
15:54.05durcynLaric: yes.  they blew up the world on the beta servers, then shut them down.
15:54.22renchapphyber: me
15:54.28kagaroLysithea, since the mirror takes 20 mins to update see if you can grab http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua and just replace the file
15:54.37Lysitheawill do
15:54.43phyberrenchap: what are you using to do it?  'svn-mirror' ?
15:54.49renchapsvnsync
15:54.52phyberahhh
15:54.55kagarothen have him turn notifications on an try to braodcast again
15:55.05phyberok, I'll check that out :)
15:55.05durcynthere are a bunch of videos and screenshots of the end-of-beta events at http://www.blizzplanet.com/news/1194/
15:55.06phyberthanks
15:55.27kagarodownloaded update @ 61%
15:55.36kagarowhat is this new patch ?
15:55.37durcynkagaro: 2.0.4?
15:55.39mattleskagaro: Yours going hideously slow too?
15:55.41durcyner 5, i guess
15:55.41nevcairiel2.0.5
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15:55.49chris|offdont hurry still not fixed
15:55.50kagaromatties: yeah
15:56.04kagarowhats in it anyways 2.0.5 ?
15:56.12nevcairieli hope it fixes the stuck-in-battleground-raid issue
15:56.13durcyni'm still seeing "unable to validate game version" on us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
15:56.14mattlesThere was a link earlier
15:56.31mattleshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.5_%28Release_Notes%29#References
15:56.32bakkodai am also getitn that durcyn
15:56.40chris|offhttp://worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/
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15:57.25Tornhoofhmm
15:57.30Tornhoofnot yet in europe i gueess
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15:57.47mattlesUS = Guinea pigs?
15:58.07chris|offseems
15:58.12bakkodagood luck doing anything involving wow forums/websie
15:58.31Q6goodl uck signing into the game once you download a 200kb patch for 2 hours.
15:58.36Q6The servers blew up so doesnt matter
15:58.50bakkodalot of ppl arent even gettin a patch notifcation
15:58.56kagarogah, ive been trying to test some new Talismonger code .. sigh gota wait i guess
15:58.59bakkodajust a big gtfo
15:59.11robotuschhttp://www.blizzplanet.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=202&pos=22 bwahaha, how cruel
15:59.28durcynevery time I begin to think that blizzard has sunk to as low a quality of service as possible, they somehow amaze me with continued feats of stupidity
15:59.39Adirelle~x fr en dépasser
15:59.42CIA-1703kagaro * r25110 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: Added world drops that are used in professions
15:59.50Lysitheakagaro notes -> show chat notifications?
15:59.57kagaroyeah
15:59.59bakkodahaha mass warstomps ftw
16:00.13Aileen_heh I can't even get to the patch part.  "Unable to validate game version."
16:00.25CIA-1703adirelle * r25111 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
16:00.25CIA-17Baggins:
16:00.25CIA-17- items no longer exceed lower bag border in non-optimized layout.
16:00.51_neuron_Aileen_, try running repair, it's actually fairly decent at fixing things now.
16:01.27Lysitheakagaro database sharing; reciving note from lysithea
16:01.33Lysitheabut no notes shows up
16:01.33Mikmawhy there is so much mr.smith's in that picture
16:01.39kagarook let me think
16:01.45Lysitheasure :)
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16:01.47Mikmaoh right, closed beta finale
16:02.22kagarodid he see the mesage twice .. i.e. got note from Lysithea, then another Got note from Lysishtea on GUILD
16:02.45Q6awesome! Alld ay of Monk!! Screw blizzard i got Monk
16:02.47Lysitheasecond didnt show
16:02.58kagarook, that tells me where its failed
16:03.03Lysitheaalot of them
16:03.05Lysitheahe says
16:03.26Lysitheaone per note I guess
16:03.54kenlyric|homeI wonder what they broke to cause all of these game version validation errors.
16:04.22snirksanyone here fluent in c++?
16:04.30Tornhooflike everything kenlyric ;)
16:04.34Q6they need to stop hiring wannabe programmers who are just wow fanboys smuggling their way into the company
16:04.42kenlyric|homeTornhoof: that's a good place to start.
16:05.13Q6I guss internal testing means jack heh
16:05.34Laricis 2.0.5 out now?
16:05.34bakkodahaha millions of hoggles
16:05.48_neuron_Laric, on us maybe, not eu atleast.
16:05.53Laricoki
16:05.56Nayon2.0.5 was released a minute ago..
16:05.58NayonBut
16:06.03Laricany notes?
16:06.08NayonThey took it down asap
16:06.08_neuron_Nayon, /me 's logged in quite happily with 2.0.4 :p
16:06.11bakkodayes. it goes boom
16:06.17NayonDont log out
16:06.22durcynanyone actually able to download the patcher on us logon servers?
16:06.26_neuron_hehe /me just relogged now to see if it works, it does :P
16:06.35chris|offwanna tes my pack ?
16:06.35chris|off;>
16:06.37chris|offtest*
16:06.40NayonYou will not be able to get the 2.0.5 patch and the 2.0.4 patch is unable to validate
16:06.42chris|offjust made a zip from it
16:07.15_neuron_isn't 2.0.5 supposed to fix the party pet bugs btw?  That'd be nice.
16:07.15LaricI wonder what arkinventory does when something is moved from one slot to another... it sure as heck is memory intesive atleast
16:07.32Q6awesome isnt it?
16:07.41NayonIt was supposed to be the Login interface update to allow displaying more servers
16:08.03_neuron_well yeah, but the official blizzard patchnotes are completely useless
16:08.25NayonI can't even download the 2.0.5 bastards
16:08.27LaricI wonder why they stealth fix so much.. could have told us
16:08.38Tornhoofthey don't fix it
16:08.40kenlyric|homehere are 2/3 of the changes we feel like telling you about = blizz patch notes.
16:08.42kagaroLysithea: im adding some more debug to figure out where the issue is
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16:08.43Tornhoofthey hope it fixes itself
16:08.47NayonBecause the stealth fixes are part of a larger CONSIPRACY!!!
16:08.52kenlyric|homePlus, we changed several things in the past week that no longer apply to the patch notes.
16:09.07LysitheaK, just highlight me when I should get the new .lua
16:09.17Lysitheawe're playing tonk wars outside org meanwhile :)
16:09.31_neuron_<kenlyric|home> here are 2/3 of the changes we feel like telling you about <-- your being awfully nice, in my experience they never list as much as 2/3 of the actual changes :P
16:09.50kenlyric|homeI'm convinced personally that all the changes to boss fights that are NEVER in the notes are how they think they keep raiding interesting.
16:10.16BarbanusWTF is UI accleration?
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16:10.41NayonNoS for the UI?
16:10.46_neuron_who knows :P
16:10.53Barbanuscaching of the UI?
16:10.57BarbanusI dont get it
16:11.08NayonI dunno
16:11.11evlAny prettier way of doing zone check at startuip?
16:11.11evlself:RegisterEvent("ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA")
16:11.11evlself:ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA()
16:11.13BarbanusThat term makes no sense to what it actually does
16:11.14_neuron_it says disable to remove graphical errors
16:11.19_neuron_so it's gotta be graphics related somehow
16:11.38NayonDisable it and see :P
16:11.39BarbanusWOOT!
16:11.46Barbanus"Unable to validate game version"
16:11.52Barbanusgogo blizzard you retards!
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16:11.59chris|offftp://ftp.vein.hu/pub/windows/games/patches/worldofwarcraft/enUS/WoW-2.0.4-to-2.0.5-enUS-Win-patch.zip
16:12.03durcyn3 must be full SVGA, 2 is EGA, 1 is CGA, and 0 is ascii-wow
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16:12.12durcynlike ttyquake!
16:12.14_neuron_chris thanks :)
16:12.22NayonWow General forums are screaming about the patch no one seems able to get past authenticating with 2.0.5
16:12.23LaricI want ascii-wow.. wonder what my framerate is then?
16:12.44|Pixel|17:12 < Nayon> Wow General forums are screaming about the patch no one seems able to get past authenticating with 2.0.5
16:12.48|Pixel|ha ha
16:13.05CIA-1703kagaro * r25113 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: added some messages for when notifications re enabled
16:13.10durcynthey must've pulled the patch then, nothing but "unable to validate" here
16:13.21kagaroLysithea: go grab the updated copy
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16:13.27ThraeThat's probably why the forums are in low-res mode...if they load at all
16:13.35Lysitheaomw
16:13.35kagaroLysithea: same url as before
16:13.35ag`About CastCommLib
16:13.39mattlesI updated
16:13.48mattlesbut.. I get disco'd after Authenticating
16:13.49Nayonyou cant connect with 2.0.4 but you can with 2.0.5, But 2.0.5 can't connect wow
16:14.02Nayonwootsauce!
16:14.04ag`instead of using CastCommLib can't use you use the party cast events and then check for their target?
16:15.23ag`I guess I am confused over what the party cast API allows and what CastCommLib brings
16:15.23kagarorofl i get instant disconnect now
16:15.23durcynag`: iirc castcomm was around before the new api
16:15.23HjalteThrae, you here?
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16:15.24bakkodaauth servers arent plugged anymore... patch servers just down
16:15.24ag`durcyn: I think they made it after 2.0
16:15.24ThraeHjalte: Whaaaaat
16:15.24durcyn<PROTECTED>
16:15.33Adirelleanyone got the 2.0.5 patchnote ?
16:15.46cladhaireit was just a graphical fix.
16:15.46Adirelle(except the "fixed a bug that allowed player to actually log in")
16:15.47mattleshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.5_%28Release_Notes%29#References
16:15.57_neuron_Adirelle, that's for 2.0.6 :P
16:15.57cladhairejust the CVar change for the aceleration
16:15.58Adirellethx
16:16.05HjalteThrae: Do i have to reloadui for the options to take effect in vitalwatch? :) Oh, and I'm still getting an error about "VitalWatch\VitalWatch.lua:778: attempt to concatenate global 'name' (a nil value)"
16:16.21ThraeHjalte: No, and I'll double-check
16:16.57durcynhttp://wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.5_%28Release_Notes%29
16:17.08HjalteThrae: Well, I'm having a bad fps in this raid and vitalwatch is really quite spammy with watching all 40 raid members aggro - you think it could have an impact on my fps?
16:17.34Lysitheakagaro he's still getting the same msg, nothing else
16:17.51durcynmattles: your scroll-fu is stronger than mine.
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16:18.01ThraeHjalte: About as much as PerfectTargets
16:18.20kagarothis is the part that sucks when you cant login .. hold on ill add some more messages to see where it is
16:18.24HjalteThrae: I tried going to the aggro options and selecting watch player only, but it still reports whole raid
16:18.32Lysitheakagaro sure :)
16:18.43ThraeHjalte: Mmmm
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16:18.52kagarois he getting any errors in bugsack or on the screen btw ?
16:19.01bver_cant log in :(
16:19.48Lysitheahe doesnt have any other addon than carto
16:20.05LysitheaIll fix bugsack for both of us
16:20.05Thraesvn is being slow for me
16:20.21Lysitheanothing on screen yet no
16:20.40Barbanusdurcyn, those patch notes are wrong
16:21.25CIA-1703kagaro * r25114 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: added more verbose message when notifications are on
16:21.46Lysitheagetting that rev too
16:21.46durcynBarbanus: they're a copy of www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/
16:21.51Barbanusdurcyn, they need to say "We have fixed a bug that actually allowed users to login to the game. Now you will receive a mesasge "unable to validate game version instead". If you don't receieve this message, and are able to login to the game, you will be disconnected every 30 seconds."
16:22.03durcynBarbanus: oh, heh =)
16:22.18Barbanus:P
16:22.28Barbanusscary thing, is that is true :P
16:22.37chris|offnotes for 2.0.6  "now users can log in"
16:22.45cladhairelol
16:22.46durcynnew "breaking news" up, that's a start at least!
16:22.49Barbanuschris|off, haha yea
16:23.03durcyn"The 2.0.5 client-side patch has caused issues with our authentication system." OH THANKS FOR TELLING US THAT, WE HAD NO IDEA
16:23.13Barbanusrofl
16:23.45bakkodaAFTER you manually download the patch
16:23.49durcynit's marked 08:10 PST.  i wonder what poor jackass had to roll out of bed to put that motd up.
16:24.08chris|offhaha
16:24.15Barbanusdurcyn, I would expect the same jackass who broke it in the first place
16:24.26durcynnah, he's probably halfway to mexico
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16:24.30Barbanuserr .. well put the code live that broke it
16:24.35kenlyric|homeuh, the motd jackass has nohing to do with the programmer jackass. Trust me.
16:24.53kenlyric|homel2departments, people.
16:24.53bakkodamany many different jackasses
16:24.59bakkodaworkin in unison
16:25.06kenlyric|homeOMG BLUE BROKE WOW
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16:25.11durcyna symphony of jackassery.  it's almost beautiful.
16:25.22Barbanuskenlyric|home, oh I'm sure. But the guy who released the broken patch (the server jackass), may be the same person as the motw jackass
16:25.42sylvanaarhavent seen curney in a while
16:25.42bakkodathey have jackass interns for motw/motds
16:26.00Barbanusnot the same as the programmer jackass, who coded the steaming pile of shit, that is 2.0.5
16:26.27bakkodathey need to take the support forums off the pentium dx with the 14.4 baud modem
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16:26.39Barbanusohhhh, but we have UI ACCLERATION!
16:26.51beerkelatest babble-spell is broken due to some crappy locall comment
16:26.52BarbanusWhat ever the fuck that is, I am not sure.
16:26.52Tornhoofhmm let's see how they fix it, since patch dload is after the auth actually ;)
16:26.54cladhaire...
16:26.58cladhaireBarbanus: We've always had it
16:27.06cladhaireunfortunatley it was causing very critical issues with a large number of users
16:27.09cladhaire2.0.5 fixes that.
16:27.15Barbanuscladhaire, what exactly is it?
16:27.18beerkecan someone fix line 6570 in Babble-spell-2.2
16:27.22Barbanuscaching of UI components?
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16:27.43Lysitheakagaro he got some error, sending me ss atm (he aint that hax at computer stuff so I have to explain alot to him :))
16:27.44Ordogis there a new WAU version?
16:27.47durcynbollocks it all, i'm going back to bed.
16:28.04Gnarfoz<Tornhoof> hmm let's see how they fix it, since patch dload is after the auth actually ;) <- nope, you can download patches with bogus login data
16:28.05Barbanus~wau
16:28.09kagaroLysithea: ok, since I cant login I cant test anything at all
16:28.16LysitheaYeah I know
16:28.17Gnarfoztry it next time, just enter asdf/blah and it will still download the patch ;)
16:28.34Tornhoofah i c
16:28.45Barbanusit validates version first
16:28.50Tornhoofpitty though
16:28.56cladhaireBarbanus: Its something like that, I haven't dug much.. but its a different way of handling textures
16:29.00snirkscould anyone here help me with a c++ thingy i have?
16:29.04kenlyric|homepatch downloads should come with the blizzard launcher, before the client even starts.
16:29.28Tornhoofyeh
16:29.37renchapkenlyric|home: and if you dont want to use the launcher ? ^^
16:30.28Barbanuscladhaire, ahhh
16:30.52bakkodathis is awesomeness at its best. icestorm outside so im stuck @ home all alone with no wife and kid
16:31.05BarbanusI'm pretty sure they just forgot to tell the auth server what patch its supposed to download if you have 2.0.4 :P
16:31.09_neuron_hm /me 's gonna test disabling that ui acceleration asap to see if I get more performance without it (on linux, so it's possible it does weird shit :P )
16:31.23bakkodatime to dust off diablo 2
16:31.25zirah:-( why is an aq mount "useable" outside aq? ( i mean the isUsableItem() function)
16:32.10zirahsilly
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16:32.11kaidenzirah, are you checking against the aq mount that is given to the person who opened aq?
16:32.19kaidenor are you checking one of the resonating crystals
16:32.21zirahkaiden, no
16:32.25kaidenhrm.. dunno then
16:32.31zirahjust bad wow
16:32.33kenlyric|homerenchap: then you get the patch like normal.
16:32.56kenlyric|homerenchap: I just hate that i have to launch the full wow client to get a patch, even though they included a launcher.
16:32.56zirahkaiden, i hoped i could remove the string check for the zone name
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16:33.09Lysitheakagaro http://ctscreens.net/3994
16:33.14zirahi hate that workaround
16:33.15beerkeow ffs, can you turn back the laest locala addition on babble-spell-2-2
16:33.16LysitheaIm not sure how bugsack works btw
16:33.26beerkehe didn't even check it ffs
16:34.10vhaarrLysithea: I am, what's the question?
16:34.21CIA-1703kagaro * r25115 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: typo fix
16:34.47zirahis here good way to check for outland? maybe an undocumented function?
16:35.05kagaroLysithea: ok get it again
16:35.15Lysitheakagaro told me to dl bugsack, the screen up there, is bugsack working? Cause I really dont know what it do exactly :)
16:35.17Lysitheadoingit
16:35.30vhaarrLysithea: You need !BugGrabber as well.
16:35.33kagaroLysithea: get !BugGrabber as well
16:35.42Lysitheakk
16:35.47kagaroLysithea: that was my bad forgot to tell you to grab that as well
16:35.53Lysithea:)
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16:36.04Silviu-[2007/01/14 18:36:29-114-x1]: Babble-Spell-2.2\Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:6570: unexpected symbol near '?
16:36.06CIA-1703thrae * r25116 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- Fixed aggro check not skipping party and raid if set to. Also added option to check party and raid, but not player.
16:37.14CIA-1703thrae * r25117 10VitalWatchOptions/VitalWatchOptionsLocale_enEN.lua: VitalWatchOptions -- Updated for VitalWatch
16:37.30Silviu-yay 100 errors/s lol
16:37.37Silviu-no, 10
16:37.54vhaarr:D
16:37.58ThraeSilviu-: With VitalWatch?
16:37.59GagorianI'll look into that BS-2.2 error
16:38.03Silviu-Latest Babbl commit screwed babble
16:38.12ThraeHjalte: Try that, also added new option
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16:38.37Silviu-[17:30:56] <F'CIA-17> sayclub * r25107 Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
16:38.37Silviu-[17:30:56] <F'CIA-17> Babble-2.2:
16:38.37Silviu-[17:30:56] <F'CIA-17> - Babble-Spell-2.2 : Update locals koKR
16:38.37ThraeHjalte: Oh, I also fixed that bug, forgot to mention
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16:39.15bakkodais there an emergency monitor like utility with oRA2?
16:39.33Lysitheakagaro recieved note, discarded due to duplicate
16:39.47kagarook, he does have those notes right ?
16:39.51Thraebakkoda: oRA2 has no frames I believe
16:39.52kagaroerr doesnt
16:39.59Lysitheastill only 2 notes
16:40.11CIA-1703beerke * r25118 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
16:40.11CIA-17Babble-2.2:
16:40.11CIA-17- Next time please correctly add zhTW locales, fixed line 6570 and 7006
16:40.12LysitheaHis own
16:40.12kagarodid he see the scanning line ?
16:40.35Lysitheascanning for duplicate witing 5y thingy?
16:40.45Lysitheawithin*
16:40.46kagaroyeah, what did it say
16:41.02Lysitheafound copper
16:41.24HjalteThrae: I'll try it out when i have time to update :)
16:41.24Silviu-thx for update
16:41.28kagaroScanning for duplicate "" withing 5 yards, found Copper?
16:41.34Lysitheayapp
16:41.57kagaroso it didnt say: Scanning for duplicate Copper withing 5 yards, found Copper
16:42.02Lysitheaoh, sorry
16:42.04Lysitheayes it does
16:42.07ThraeHjalte: Heh, you're my only raider. I don't raid. The bug fixes were blatant, I feel ashamed.
16:42.27kagarohmm for all of them ?
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16:42.35Lysitheayes
16:42.36HjalteThrae: Hehe, I'll make sure to let you know how it works then
16:42.50kagarook that cant be right then, must be a bug in get nearby note
16:42.54kagaroill go look
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16:43.22LysitheaWe could try barrens, he dont have any notes there
16:43.32Lysitheathere's tin aswell
16:45.13Lysitheakagaro I dont know much, but it couldnt have something to do with it showing meters instead of yards for us? (just a quick thought)
16:45.41Lysitheabarrens worked fine
16:45.43kagarolysithea maybe .. im looking now
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16:45.49Lysitheawhere he didnt have any notes
16:47.19Elkanolol? I've shortly hidden my UI (alt + z) and when I showed it again one of my chat frames is gone :/
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16:49.56kebinusan2.0.5 broke stuff
16:50.15Hobinheimis it still down
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16:50.47chris|offyes
16:50.54kebinusanyea
16:51.13kebinusanI get unable to validate game versiion, blah blah... QA sure is wonderful
16:51.32LaricElkano what was the name of your item sync thingie?
16:51.43break19me too
16:51.49ElkanoItemDB
16:51.52chris|offsec ill give u a link for the patch
16:52.00chris|offftp://ftp.vein.hu/pub/windows/games/patches/worldofwarcraft/enUS/WoW-2.0.4-to-2.0.5-enUS-Win-patch.zip
16:52.12CIA-1703kagaro * r25119 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: i think i fixed the scanning range
16:52.13ElkanoInventoryLib will be part of it's successor but has now sharing build in, yet
16:52.14break19so what about those of us who dont use windows...
16:52.30nee-lapHm. I think the Blizzard-like skin option in Baggins looks horrible :|
16:52.42chris|offsorry i dont have a mac => cant provide u macupdates:)
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16:52.51break19oh, you mean it works now? didnt work for me last time I tried. lol
16:52.53kagaroLysithea: try it now
16:52.59break19chris|off: I can go there myself lol
16:53.03LaricElkano how the dev on your new buffbars going?
16:53.19Elkanonot that good... no time :/
16:53.28Laric:(
16:53.35_neuron_luckily your old ones work brilliantly :P
16:53.45break19chris|off: altho, versiontracker is my preferred site
16:54.22Lysitheakagaro it'll take awhile, his gf dragged him to dinner ^^
16:54.23chris|offic
16:54.31kagaroLysithea k
16:55.28Laricanyone who can tell me how to add a button to the general tooltip?
16:56.00Laricor how to attach a frame to the general tool tip?
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16:56.17Gagoriancreate a new frame and anchor it to the tooltip
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16:57.12Laricand make the tooltip the parent aswell so it hides with the normal tooltip then?
16:57.43Gagorianyeah
16:58.00OrdogClearFOnt2 update?
16:58.11Ordogwhen was 24543 out?
16:58.26CIA-1703kagaro * r25120 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: made the scanning show what it found in show notifications
16:58.41OrdogWAU keeps naggin about a new clearfont2 release
16:59.09kaidenthere was just anew version released like 2 days ago
16:59.18jeffreywinaceupdater is slooow
16:59.19jeffreylol
16:59.21Laricordog: 10/1-2007 21:00:35
16:59.31kaidenjeffrey, its wowace.com they are working on it
16:59.33Thraejeffrey: SVN is slow right now...maybe people preparing for TBC
16:59.37Ordogi ran wau two times today and both times it downloaded a new rev Oo
16:59.37jeffreyi know
17:01.47BankZZI wonder how long WOW is gonna be down
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17:04.36kebinusanback up for me
17:04.50kebinusanthey seem to have backed off 2.0.5, Im getting in with 2.0.4
17:05.11mattlesreeeeeeeeeeexc.. wait...
17:05.21mattlesI'm still getting disco'd on logon w/ 2.0.5
17:05.22chris|offdced from server...
17:05.23CIA-1703rabbit * r25121 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua Modules/Druid.lua): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Changed from using a repeating event to responding to PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED and UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS. Hopefully this catches all usecases.
17:05.28Finwua could be a lot faster if it didn't check each addon's revision number individually
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17:06.41ThraeYou know what I hate? When people give "cute little sayings" for an addon's description in their TOC, instead of saying what it REALLY does.
17:06.49Ordoghas somebody got a paste url for 2.0.5 patchdetails?
17:07.03Feldiadoes anyone know why cooldown counts were removed from bartender, and if they'll be coming back anytime soon
17:07.11ThraeJust like when all of Kaelten's One* mods quoted Lord of the Rings, so I didn't know which mod actually did what :D
17:07.27EvilGrin|WinFeldia, use Cooldowncount?
17:07.27kebinusanOrdog: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/
17:07.36GagorianBartender3: removed build-in cooldown count because it bugged and ate performance, i recommend OmniCC as a replacement.
17:07.43Ordoghm europe wow site is behind as always ...
17:07.44Feldiableh
17:07.46Feldiaso it won't be back?
17:07.51GagorianI doubt it
17:07.57GagorianOmniCC is very good, use it
17:08.02ThraeFeldia: Not soon, anyway
17:08.02bakkodawas that the more recent version of Bar3?
17:08.20Feldiaomnicc is on wowace?
17:08.21bakkodaif so i didnt even notice they were gone :(
17:08.27Feldiayea it happened in yesterdays update
17:08.50nevcairielHm
17:08.50GagorianFeldia: OmniCC isn't ace2
17:09.06EvilGrin|WinFeldia: CooldownCount is though.
17:09.07FeldiaHm
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17:09.29Adirellenee-lap: it's blizzard like skin and not blizzard's skin
17:09.35Laricomnicc is really good and efficient though
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17:09.48Feldiaalright ty
17:10.00BankZZAnyone know of an addon that lets you control the health and mana text on the started blizard unit frames?
17:10.02Adirellenee-lap: because blizzard's bag skin is nearly impossible to reproduce with baggins layout
17:10.25kebinusanBankZZ: mobhealth3_something
17:11.04SmeltnWOW
17:11.16Smeltnso people who DIDN'T get the patch can now get in game
17:11.24bakkodano
17:11.26CIA-1703kagaro * r25122 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: more debug
17:11.28bakkodai dont think so
17:11.32SmeltnI do
17:11.34Adirellenee-lap: I meant with current layouts
17:12.03SmeltnI know its true.. there are 14 people in my vent server who just got up who are getting in game right now......while I of course get disconnected right after logging in
17:12.03break19yep.. I can now.
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17:12.12bakkodawow
17:12.28break19and I didnt get prompted to download 2.0.5
17:13.25Worfi don't dare to start the game now that i hear you talking about new patches
17:13.34Worfor is europe still save? :)
17:13.34AdirelleEU-frFR: still no patch
17:13.44nevcairieleurope is save
17:13.49nevcairielprolly will get patched tonight
17:13.55nevcairielbut with a fixed patch :D
17:14.20nee-lapAdirelle: oki :) The texture would have to be used to look alike I suppose :)
17:14.22break19uh oh..... downloaded latest autobar - the included babblelib is nutty
17:14.22bakkodaso for those of us that got patchscrewed... its yet another sit and wait game :(
17:14.35robotuschnice they can screw up such a small patch
17:14.36mattlesI'm gonna try repairing
17:14.40mattlessee how that one works out
17:14.49robotuschI wonder what's in store for us with tomorrow's rolling restarts :D
17:14.50break19uh oh..... downloaded latest autobar - the included babblelib is nutty
17:14.59break19grumble.. stupid copy/paste
17:15.02chris|offrepair just finished on 2.0.5 still dc
17:15.02nadasbreak19: it's fixed in the latest babble
17:15.40kagarochris|off: I get teh same issue instant disconnect
17:15.40nadasbreak19: rev 25118
17:16.03break19nadas: kk, toad needs to update his embed tho.
17:16.10chris|offi wonder hwo will they fix this
17:16.13chris|offhow*
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17:17.58Adirellenee-lap: yep, and we would have to stick with 4 columns with no gaps (i.e. no section title)
17:18.57Adirelleoriginal blizzard bag texturing is quite "hard-coded"
17:19.00Ordoghehe bugsack: stopped capturing bugs since more than 10 bugs per second were catched" ...
17:19.01art3mistbc was posted to a.b.boneless btw
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17:19.26Ordogbabble-spell-2.2 seems to be just not there ...
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17:20.13doxxxIt looks like the Korean translation in Babble-Spell-2.2 has a Lua syntax error in it
17:20.16chris|off<PROTECTED>
17:20.16chris|offThanks everyone for your patience.
17:20.19chris|offmehh
17:20.27doxxxThe comment at the end of the line only has one - instead of two
17:20.44Gagoriandoxxx: The korean dude messed it up, it's fixed in the latest version
17:21.00doxxxok thanks.
17:21.10Thrae"2.0.5 Patch Notes - Fixes a login issue a small minority of players were having. This should not effect anyone else."
17:21.18Mysticfoxhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=66206858&postId=665206653&sid=1#25
17:21.21Gagoriana small minority? :D
17:21.41Ordoguhm shall i just update some addon including babble-spell lib or put the babble-spell lib somewhere?
17:21.45Kaeltenthe site crawling for everyone else?
17:22.02ThraeKaelten: Yep, Wowace and World of Warcraft
17:22.03chris|offlolol i wont reinstall the game mehh
17:22.49cyliKaelten: Not sure about the site itself, but WowAceUpdater has been trying to download Cartographer for the last 45 minutes
17:22.53nevcairielhm
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17:23.04nevcairielIs ParserLib still known to have a lot garbage ?
17:23.10GagorianOrdog: You need to remove that revision of babble-spell or get a latest one. But all in all I recommend you to use stand-alone libraries.
17:23.16BarbanusKaelten, a new patch came out today
17:23.23Kaeltenwhat?
17:23.25Kaeltenwtf?
17:23.30Adirellebreak19: no need to update embeds, they are externals, they should be updated soon
17:23.40Barbanus2.0.5
17:23.45Barbanusand its broken bad
17:23.46OrdogWoWAceUpdater keeps trying to download ClearFont2 but always the same revision
17:23.47nevcairieli just hit the search button in the forums and the stupid offline page again
17:23.52Barbanusso have fun with another patch day.
17:23.55nevcairielgive me back my forums! it was working fine :/
17:24.28Kaeltennevcairiel: heh.
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17:24.53nevcairielguess i will have to pester here until someone answers
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17:24.58kagaroLysithea: let me know when your ready
17:25.03Lysitheayupp
17:25.05nevcairielis ParserLib still producing alot of garbage or is that solves?
17:25.06Lysitheahe's taking his tim
17:25.07Lysitheae
17:25.14nevcairiel*solved
17:25.21TriGGyAny agUnitFrames dev online ?
17:25.27Hjaltehttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=22.0 Here it seems Totalpackage made a reply to a thread. But when you enter, his reply isnt there. He deleted it?
17:26.17Ordoguhm has somebody any experiences with Set UIFaster "2" ? any actual impact on whatever?
17:26.30Ordogwhat does it do anyway?
17:26.32Ordog^^
17:26.38chris|offtehy rolled back the patch
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17:27.56Sroshthat doesn't bode well for next week
17:28.05Sqwertcan somone tell me how to load on demand addons all the time in fubar?
17:28.14beerkeis there an addon that shows how long a dot is ticking ?
17:28.20vhaarrTem: In the 2.0.0 changelist, it says they added "* NEW count = UnitHasBuff("unit", "name"[, "rank"])", but doing /print type(UnitHasBuff) returns "nil"?
17:28.29vhaarrTem: Was it later removed?
17:29.06beerke<PROTECTED>
17:29.12beerkeisn't it something like that ?
17:29.19vhaarrNo.
17:29.28beerkepretty sure the unithasbuff works
17:29.35vhaarrIt doesn't.
17:30.00beerkehmm lemme get ressed and check
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17:30.10vhaarrI'm not asking you to check, I know I'm right.
17:30.39Sqwertanyone?
17:30.51vhaarr<PROTECTED>
17:31.24beerkei remember something about not checking for buffs by name
17:31.27doxxxSo, in order to get the fixed babblespell using wowaceupdater, I need to turn off the version check and update? I just tried with the version check turned on (as normal) and it didn't update anything
17:31.42beerkeas it was to resource intensive according to blizz
17:32.00vhaarr* NEW count = UnitHasBuff("unit", "name"[, "rank"])
17:32.02vhaarr* NEW count = UnitHasDebuff("unit", "name"[, "rank"])
17:32.05vhaarrfrom http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&sid=1
17:32.12beerkeafter that
17:32.13vhaarrSo, was it later removed, or is Iriel on crack?
17:32.21beerkeas to my knowledge
17:32.41beerkeThey disabled it as a normal buff loop with a check was easier and faster then those functions
17:33.01beerkeno guarantee, but read a blue on blizz forums somewhere regarding it
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17:33.20beerkenever bothered to verify as i don't use it
17:33.57Wogroiplsheesh, we jurt killed Razorgore first try with Orcs spawning in phase2
17:34.02Wogroipljust*
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17:34.17vhaarrah, found it.
17:34.20Wogroipland we killed him first time 3 weeks ago :P
17:34.29ThraeWait, I think *I* killed Wowace.com. I posted a comprehensive list of minimalist addons in various forums last night, and most of the addons linked to www.wowace.com/files .zip directly.
17:34.44ThraeOne of the forums was the World of Warcraft official forums...
17:35.09cynyrWogroipl: nice.. now one shot vael... something my guild cold never seem to do... we could do everything else first try.. but not vael
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17:35.28Wogroiplit was a first last week
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17:35.37AHETO_hello there
17:35.43Wogroiplfirst try then ;)
17:35.55OrdogThrae: MURDERER
17:35.57bakkodaactually the never ending adds in razorgore help phase 2 as long s you dont aggro em
17:35.58Ordog^^
17:36.09bakkodathey will kick razorgores butt with you
17:36.18vhaarrgrrrrr
17:36.23Wogroiplwe had 8 priests with hlot nova tho ;)
17:36.25beerkefound it vhaarr ?
17:36.35bakkodathats easy mode on vael then
17:36.36Wogroiplholy nova*
17:36.43Ordogcan somebody link me to babble.spell 2.2 unbuggy version ?
17:36.44Ordog-.-
17:36.44bakkodahow many rogues?
17:36.47vhaarr* UPDATED name,rank,icon,count = UnitBuff("unit", id or "name"[,"rank"]) - as above
17:36.48vhaarr* UPDATED name,rank,icon,count,type = UnitDebuff("unit", id or "name"[,"rank"]) - as above
17:36.50vhaarrhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1
17:36.53beerkeOrdog, fixed it on SVN
17:36.55vhaarrBut it doesn't work either.
17:37.01Ordogthx beerke
17:37.19art3misya know i lov the wowace addons cuz they're so configurable, but at the same time some of them have too many options
17:37.20beerkevhaarr, the name part does not work
17:37.38beerkei loop through all buffs and do a str.find
17:37.39doxxxbeerke: what about those who use wowaceupdater? how do we get the fixed babble spell?
17:37.42art3mislike carto for example
17:38.02beerkedoxxx, check out babble spell i guess
17:38.03robotuschart3mis, that's what makes me love modulized addons
17:38.04art3misi hit m to bring up the map it does, hit m to close it and it brings up a different map with different settings.
17:38.21art3misand no where in the options is there actually a setting for this ;P
17:38.25art3misyeah
17:38.33art3miswowace and the addons are amazing flexible
17:38.38Ordogupdating "with externals" didnt help fixing the babble-spell 2.2 external
17:38.43Ordogin Wau ... btw
17:38.52art3misif i didnt suck at lua  i'd convert the few non-ace that i suie
17:38.54robotuschespecially with Prat, so much stuff you can do with it
17:38.55art3misuse
17:38.59art3misyeah
17:38.59beerkeno, cause zips where made at the moment that babble-spell was bugged
17:39.03Sqwertcan somone tell me how to load on demand addons all the time in fubar?
17:39.04art3misprats crazy for config
17:39.06cyliOdd thing with Cartographer - it's in my addons directory, but it's not showing up in my list of addons in WoW (Load-out-of-date-Addons is checked)
17:39.12robotuschbut you can just disable all the stuff you don't need :D
17:39.21art3misif you can find it in the options tab ;P
17:39.26beerkeso either you checkout babble-spell with WAU or wait till zip-files get new one zipped into
17:39.41Ordogcyli delete your saved vars... helped for me and fubar disappearing
17:39.42robotuschFu ftw :D
17:40.07art3misi'd love for someone to add range fading to aguf
17:40.17art3miscuz ive looked all over and i dont see it
17:40.28doxxxhmmm.... wowaceupdater needs a download progress bar :P
17:40.33art3misheh
17:40.58art3misand a port for smartbuff to ace2 would rule
17:41.07art3misand eepanels not being broken would be nice
17:41.16art3misand looto ported to wowace would be good
17:41.21doxxxI don't really understand why people want existing addons ported to ace2, it makes no sense
17:41.30nuOHEPlooto?
17:41.35art3misbecause of the wau
17:41.37robotuscheasier update through the svn/WAU :p
17:41.46art3misyeah looto tracks loot colelcted
17:41.47doxxxbleh :P
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17:42.00art3misits just a neat addon that has a nice look to it
17:42.05nuOHEPhm... XLootMonitor
17:42.07BankZZdamn, I hate not being able to logon to wow
17:42.19art3misi use it becuase i cant find the prat setting to show loots ;P
17:42.25art3misxloot is ugly
17:42.28art3misREALLY ugly
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17:42.37beerkeCause they think Ace2 makes addons better, while they have no clue to what it does or what it is for. That is why people wan to port to ace2 doxxx
17:42.40BankZZI like xloot a lot
17:42.43art3misand it mucks with my loot window, and makes THAT ugly ;P
17:42.51CIA-1703rabbit * r25123 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (8 files in 2 dirs): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Cleanup.
17:42.55Funkeh`hey all
17:43.06art3misbeerke: nah i atually want it ported for the update reason ;P
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17:43.15kagaroheya Funkeh`
17:43.19doxxxhmm... is there a free version of C# that I can use to hack on wowaceupdater?
17:43.19art3miswell that and most of the wowace addons are slimmer in mem useage
17:43.30|Kev|doxxx: yes
17:43.32beerkeone advantage and that is the main advantage of Ace2 is the consistency in looks for addons. Especially in regards to bar looks for example, check aguf/capping/cdt for example
17:43.34|Kev|just go d/l from MS
17:43.40art3misumm MS has visual studio 2005 free
17:43.45CIA-1703rabbit * r25124 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Bugfix.
17:43.47BankZZ"express"
17:43.55art3misyeah express ;P
17:43.56Sqwertwhere can i get WAU?
17:44.04Funkeh`converting to ace does give a level of efficiency, but that level is only awarded if you are using a mostly ace ui. the real efficiency is gained from the coding
17:44.08art3mis~wowaceupdater
17:44.18purli heard wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
17:44.37cyliOrdog: nope, just did that and Cartographer still isn't in my addons listing
17:44.37Sqwertand how can i make my load on demand addons for fubar load all the time... like topscore?
17:44.47doxxxhmmm yay.... Krull is massacreing people outside IronForge
17:44.57Funkeh`you could change the toc
17:45.00art3misheh he was hanging around org yesterday for us
17:45.25art3miswe decided that kruul is a way for blizz to take money from people ;P
17:45.34Sqwertwhat would i need to change in the toc?
17:45.51Funkeh`where is says loadondemand
17:45.57Funkeh`change it to 0
17:45.59Sqwertcause now i use a seperate adon to load them but i have to do it every time i log in
17:46.10Sqwertok i'll try that
17:46.18CIA-1703rabbit * r25125 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Just some cleanup.
17:46.22doxxxthanks, downloading the express studio
17:46.37Kaeltentrying to put the server back up.
17:46.42Ordogblizz is actually selling gold to goldsellers to drop market price and drive them out of buisness (after all the real farmers died on exhaustion ofc) just a rumor !
17:47.02robotuschTrue story!
17:48.23robotuschargh, what have I gotten myself into - I'm reading starcraft lore :S
17:49.01Funkeh`christ
17:49.04Funkeh`another patch?
17:49.50art3misuh oh
17:49.51Funkeh`EU ftl, we always get everything late
17:49.55art3misyeah 2.0.5
17:50.04art3misthey reverted cuz it wasnt letting people login
17:50.08art3misthis morning anyways
17:50.10Funkeh`just another minor or a major? toc change?
17:50.20Funkeh`lol
17:50.22beerkeFunkeh` converting to ace does give a level of efficiency, but that level is only awarded if you are using a mostly ace ui. the real efficiency is gained from the coding
17:50.27Funkeh`sounds like a good aptch
17:50.27art3miscouple of minors i think mostly hidden changes
17:50.28beerkewell not guaranteed
17:50.30kagaroFunkeh`: dunno i still cant login
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17:51.16art3mishrm i wonder if i can setup an svn on my hosting place
17:51.29beerkeAce2 suggests a level of efficiency, it is not guaranteed. It does gives you though tools to provide a consistency among addons. Just like i pointed out with bar looks, as with AceDB for example and other tools
17:51.31art3misto help offload some of the bw thats gonna hit on tuesday
17:52.09CIA-1703rabbit * r25126 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix table clearing.
17:52.11vhaarr~seen toadkiller
17:52.14purltoadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-178-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 6h 15m 19s ago, saying: 'well in that case jsut cut & paste it'.
17:52.16art3misthe main advantage(addons aside) is that wow ace libs are well built and make the addons consistent for what they do with lib calls
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17:52.21CIA-1703rabbit * r25127 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/Druid.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Druid: Remove debug print.
17:52.38BankZZAnyone know of a addon that lets you synch friends lists?
17:52.49art3misnothing is more annoying that ugly code in different addons doing the same thing and not being compatible
17:52.51Azurewrathart3mis: i guess you have to contact Kaelten for how to setup a svn mirror, but i think there won't be that much load.. most people updated their stuff with 2.0/2.0.3
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17:53.07doxxxblargh. I had to manually copy the new babble-spell lua file into each addon which uses it. >.<
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17:53.11art3misAzurewrath: oh that was more a i wonder if my host will let me piondering outloud
17:53.40beerkedoxxx, weird. Normally it should get latest version if i am correct
17:53.45art3misthere are changes in live tbc over live
17:53.48EraslinIs there someone in here that I can get to lock a wowace forum thread for me? I've changed threads for which one I want people reporting problems in for my addon, and want to make it impossible for people to use the old one.
17:54.10art3misyou could stop replying on the old one ;P
17:54.14break19fun aguf bug.. feign death, come back... aguf thinks im still dead lol
17:54.22art3misand mod the first post to say in huge letts go here instead ;P
17:54.28doxxxwell, I marked babble-spell-2.2 in the WAU list and then updated and it installed. I restarted WoW but the error was still there.
17:54.39art3miswhat error?
17:54.41doxxxI twas still loading it from the version embedded in ora2 etc.
17:54.44EraslinI could, this is true. But, as we know, a lot of people don't read ;)
17:54.45Sqwerti changed the loaondemand to 0 but they still dont load on start up
17:54.51art3misoh doxx
17:55.09art3misjust remember to select "without externals"
17:55.17beerkewell
17:55.24art3misthat way you dont have multip[le lib copies that might be out of date with each other confusing amtters
17:55.34beerke<PROTECTED>
17:55.34Ordogbeerke checking out Babble 2.2 using WAU didnt help
17:55.35Ordog-.-
17:55.37art3mistry deleteing the lib dir inside the addon folder
17:55.48doxxxbeerke that's what I thought
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17:55.59CIA-1703rabbit * r25128 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Bugfix.
17:56.01art3misyeah
17:56.11snirksmy AGUF placement is not staying in place
17:56.14snirksif i leave a raid
17:56.16snirksor
17:56.17beerkeI would assume that seperate libs installed would be preferred over embedded libs
17:56.18Brunershow do you check if your pvp flagged with ag_uf?
17:56.19snirksif im not in a raid
17:56.21snirksthen i join a raid
17:56.22art3misbut a quick start of wow will show the libs(deps) it needs
17:56.25snirksthe frames are all over the place
17:57.18doxxxbeerke do I have to mark the !!!standalonelibraries to get external libraries?
17:58.00beerkepfff hate standalonelibrarires
17:58.15Sqwertso can anyone help me with my fubar addons that wont load on start up..ii have to use a addon to load them
17:58.29beerkei just checkout all addons /wo externals and then check which dependencies i miss and install those as well
17:58.40doxxxah
17:58.41ravagernlomg... damn babble is causing all my icon textures to be bugged
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17:59.38beerkeBut i don't know how Ace2 exactly handles deps, afaik it should get latest version (even if it is installed as addon and not as lib, in case m,ultiple exist)
18:00.05ravagernl~babble
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18:00.24art3misnods beer
18:00.28art3misthats the easiest way
18:00.38beerkeravagernl, babble had some shitty locale addition which made it bug
18:00.41art3missave getting libs you dont need
18:00.48beerkefixed it earlier, but it is allready in the zips
18:01.22art3misace handles deps in that if thers a libs dir in the folder itll use those instead of the generic ones
18:01.22Ordogdid somebody shout at that korean already? i feel like it! ^^
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18:01.44beerkeit wash zhTW
18:02.00ravagernlbeerke: yeah, so should I install babble-2.2 from zip page?
18:02.12Ordogthat alone wont help ravagernl
18:02.15Ordogjust tried
18:02.44ravagernlbah
18:02.45doxxxbeerke: I think the problem in this case is that its a syntax error in an old version that is loading before the newer standalone version.
18:02.48CIA-1703rabbit * r25129 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (Locale-enUS.lua Modules/Druid.lua): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Added support for Druid Prowl.
18:03.08Ordogyou need all addons using the libs installed without externals included i guess
18:03.14ravagernloptional dependencies??
18:03.17beerkedoxxx, well it errors before it can check valid version. Yes that could be the problem
18:03.25beerkeonly option then
18:03.30Ordogor update all externals included in the addon dirs manually -.-
18:03.39beerkedelete all bable libs and install standalone babble
18:03.45doxxxyah
18:04.41ravagernlI wonder who the ass was that messed up
18:05.02beerkeeasy to check commit logs :)
18:05.08Ordoguhm so deleting all Babble-xxx-2.2 in all libs dirs in affected addons would help yes?
18:05.24beerkewell you can just delete all babble folders
18:05.56CIA-1703eraslin * r25130 10DKPmon/DKPmon.toc: DKPmon: version number update.
18:05.57HjalteThrae: I updated, and i dont know if it was Vitalwatch or not, but my raid fps doubled.. ;)
18:05.57beerkeand then get Babble-2.2 from WAU
18:06.02doxxxactually, what is the easiest way of checking the commit logs? is there a mailing list or something, or do I have to use an svn client?
18:06.13beerketrac or SVN tool
18:06.15vhaarrhttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace/topics?lnk=oa
18:06.24beerkeor google groups
18:06.31Finhuh, I was wondering if that worked :)
18:06.33beerkeprefer trac/SVN tools
18:06.43Ordogah crap ill just download all addons without externals o-.
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18:07.03beerkesayclub added the errors :)
18:07.10Ordogor wait ... lets write a batch file to delete them ...
18:07.28cyliI just got Babble-2.2 from WAU and I'm still getting that error.  For that matter I downloaded Babble-Spell-2.2 from SVN and I'm still getting a syntax error in Babble-Spell-2.2
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18:08.11beerkecyli, delete all babble folders in the addons
18:08.13Ordogcyli thats most likely because the addons you use got the malicious babble libs in em already choosing embedded above external
18:08.33ravagernlsayclub was the ass that messed up
18:08.45ravagernlkarma-- !
18:08.59cyliOrdog and beerke: I download all my addons dis-embedded
18:08.59art3misbah eepanels is still doing the "panels disappear on a ui reload" thing
18:09.05beerkei am your saviour !
18:09.10ravagernl<3 beerke!
18:09.23beerkewhat error where cyli ?
18:09.30beerkeand what line
18:09.35ravagernlsomething about setallpoints
18:09.37Lysitheakagaro I'm getting someone else to debug with, other guy went mia
18:09.42kagarokk
18:10.11cyliBabble-Spell-2.2.lua: 7441: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 6993) near 'Spell_shadow_DemonBreath'
18:10.12ravagernlthe error is on the last page of the eepanels thread
18:10.39cyliI went to that line though, and I couldn't find what it meant - the brackets seem to match, at least in the SVN copy of Babble-Spell-2.2.lua
18:10.54art3misooo eepanels is fixored?
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18:11.38ravagernlno, just that the error ive been getting for it is on the last page
18:11.47beerkewhat is revision on your babble-spell cyli ?
18:12.10art3misahh
18:12.15vhaarrAce2 does automatically upgrade your libs to the latest revision, but it also loads the libs as it finds them. So it finds the old version first, which has the syntax error, and then it finds the new version.
18:12.32vhaarrSo as long as you have an old version lying around, you'll get the error, even if you have the fixed version as well.
18:12.48Ordogdel /s babble* does the job ...
18:12.52art3mishrm ufriends stopped doign the drop down menu
18:12.54cylibeerke: originally, r25107.  then I went to SVN via your website and downloaded the latest one - not sure which revision that is
18:13.07beerkeopen babble-spell and check top
18:13.12beerkerevision is in ther
18:13.21beerke25118 or newer should be fine
18:13.53cylibeerke: sorry, it says: Revision $Rev$
18:14.00cylibeerke: am I checking the wrong line?
18:14.18beerkewell just update
18:14.24vhaarrYou've downloaded it directly from the SVN, don't do that :P
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18:14.40beerkecheckout from SVN is not download from SVN
18:14.52art3misheh
18:14.55Val`anyone try the latest Bartender3?  i can't get the cooldown counter working anymore
18:14.56beerkescheckout from SVn or download from wowace.com/files
18:15.08OrdogVal` its not included anymore get omniCC
18:15.13art3misuse omnicc
18:15.24cylibeerke: ah, last I checked the new zip file hadn't been made yet
18:15.28Val`ahh ok
18:15.34Val`thx ordog
18:15.43cylibeerke: thanks
18:15.48beerkethink zips are made every 30minutes
18:15.55BankZZcan u put spells in auto bard?
18:15.59BankZZ*autobar
18:16.03CIA-1703thrae * r25131 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- and fixed an and
18:16.08beerkeshould have version numbr 25118 or newer
18:16.34vhaarr20min
18:16.39beerkeBabble-2.2r251182007-01-14 11:40:53 -0500A library to help with localization. (ckknight)
18:16.51beerkethat one is updated on wowace files
18:16.59bakkodawell for 2.0.5 ppl most realms are accessible now
18:17.15Q6servers work atm
18:17.17ravagernlthanks ordordog: del /s babble*.* to be exactly
18:17.24Lysitheakagaro: I (the sender) had set to groupchannel. He (not same guild) had set to guildchannel. Didnt work. When both had set to Groupchannel it worked. First guy + me in Guildchannel didnt work (have you changed something since then?)
18:17.29break19so.. when someone uses embed, are they auto-updated as well?
18:17.30bakkodamy server isnt on realmlist :(
18:17.31vhaarrDid EU get 2.0.5 yet?
18:17.40bakkoda2.0.5 is officialy delayed
18:17.41ravagernlyes vhaarr
18:17.44vhaarrokay
18:17.47bakkodaform what Blues have said
18:17.52break19vhaarr: lets hope not.. they rolled it back didnt they?
18:17.58vhaarrI have no idea.
18:18.21kagaroLysithea: need to be in same guild for guild channel to work
18:18.29LysitheaYeah ofc
18:18.44Ordoguhm does WAU delete the old folder before extracting?
18:18.57andremarit has an option for it I think
18:18.59LysitheaWhat Im sayin is: group worked, guild didnt with the first guy (who are in same guild)
18:19.14ravagernlthere is an option for it, yeah
18:19.21BankZZAnyone know of a addon that lets you synch friends lists?
18:19.27ravagernlbut you have to enable it ordog
18:19.29Ordogah ye thx
18:19.29Silviu-vhaarr no we do not have 2.0.5 yet, i just did a gamerestart no patch :)
18:19.37ravagernlbankzz: auldlangsyne
18:19.45vhaarrah, okay
18:19.46BankZZlet me look for it
18:19.51vhaarrravagernl: It doesn't let you sync.
18:19.59ravagernlo
18:20.00kagaroif guild didnt work and your both int he same guild, then its a blizz issue, we drop the data in the guild channel, but listen to all channel
18:20.02ravagernl:S
18:20.19Lysithea:/
18:20.36break19Silviu-: they've delayed the release of the patch, since the patcher app was causing the problems.. but the US servers are letting both 2.0.5 users who did manage to get the patch, and those who couldnt.. log in.
18:20.42ravagernltekkub: latest version of rawr doesnt appear to be working :(
18:20.57LysitheaSo, it's not a thing we can fix, stupid blizzard :(
18:21.24Lysitheakagaro i'll double check when the guildguy comes back
18:21.26Lysitheato be sure
18:21.40Tekkubravagernl, http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
18:22.20sylvanaaroh yes - can someone recommend a good dismoount/shapeshift mod
18:22.33CIA-1703thrae * r25132 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- Check if the unit is in the party, not if YOU are in a party. Thanks again to Hjalte
18:22.42art3misauto?
18:22.43LePeR|Jauniaezdismount
18:22.54art3mislike if it seems the message it just takes you off yer horse?
18:23.02art3misautomaton is good for that
18:23.17sylvanaarautomaton hasnt been working
18:23.31Ordoghmmm theres a changelog viewer frame in wau source Oo
18:23.37art3misdoes a bunch of stuff, auto decline duels, autojoin groups, autoaccept res's and summons, autorelease block trade
18:23.40Ordoggreat :)
18:23.40sylvanaarit works in the code
18:23.52art3misreally?
18:23.56art3mismine works fine
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18:24.27sylvanaarart3mis: yeah, but in AV when i turn in storm crystals it uses the low yield 1 crystal turnns, and i havent figured out how to stop the auto stuff for a sec
18:24.52art3misduececommander
18:25.01art3misjust untick the option that does it?
18:25.05Lysitheakagaro isnt weird that we could still chare via guildchannel when there was no existing notes?
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18:25.09Lysitheashare*
18:25.44sylvanaari meant a key override so when i am at the questgiver i can hold down shift and not have it try to autocomplete
18:25.53art3misahh
18:25.56art3misyeah i re-read it
18:26.08sylvanaari use it
18:26.10CIA-1703kagaro * r25133 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: fixed a typoe with show minimap icons
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18:26.27sylvanaartill recently the shapeshift/dismoout on it worked well
18:26.43kagaroLysithea: the sharing dump just rounds up all the notes for that db it finds and sends them.. no notes nothing sent
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18:28.29Lysitheakagaro what I meant was: When I sent my notes to him in barrens, where he had no notes, he got them. When I send my notes in durotar, where he has currently two notes, he dont get them. This via guildchannel.
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18:28.54LysitheaSame guild
18:29.04kagaroLysithea: something els is going on, did you get the extra debug?
18:29.26Ordogdamn, looking into the wau source i get the feeling everything i attempted to add to it is already there but disabled !
18:29.42LysitheaWe tested diffrent guilds, currently trying to get in contact with the mia guy to get info to login and debug
18:29.51sylvanaarare you beta testing?
18:29.52Lysitheawith a same guild char
18:30.01sylvanaarer alpha
18:30.06bakkodaman my gui looks liek crap now... really thick borders on stuff for some reason
18:30.34Lysitheakagaro in short, we're working on it :P
18:30.43kagarok
18:34.24kenlyric|homeawww... cdt doesn't save locations to the profile :/
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18:37.05bakkodanew patch seems to have made my UI worse looking
18:37.09bakkodaawesome
18:37.36StephmwI'm thinking patching's gonna be dangerous until the 1st of Feb
18:37.53Stephmwgod knows it'll take them that long to stop screwing it up
18:38.18TriGGyAnyone know how to make agUF show your group number?
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18:39.17bakkodai just fell in love with vital watch
18:39.43yacoobwedding tomorrow?
18:39.52HjalteThrae: Any chance of having the messages regarding your own aggro highlight itself in someway?
18:40.26snurre-there we go, tbc client installed
18:40.41Mikmahttp://mikma.reaktio.net/lambs.jpg
18:40.51ThraeHjalte: The colouring for aggro messages for yourself is not the same as for others. Both are configurable.
18:41.00snurre-Mikma: clerks 2 :D
18:41.05Mikma:D
18:41.14RobTheDudenice
18:41.26TainThat was possibly tthe funniest scene in the whole movie.
18:41.46HjalteThrae: I'll take a look at it, that i still have all raid monitored doesnt help distinguish it though :)
18:41.48art3mistbc installed?
18:42.25MikmaTain: "oh!"
18:42.25Mikma"i'd fuck me"
18:42.25ThraeHjalte: Do you have it set to monitor raid?
18:42.37TainAS much as I enjoyed Kinky Kelly.
18:42.40HjalteThrae: I havent downloaded the fix yet :)
18:42.45ThraeAh
18:42.55Hobinheimdoes anyone see dashes after this colon? ::::: adys
18:43.02Hobinheimsorry testing something in irc =(
18:43.06MikmaTain: oh yeah haha
18:43.15MikmaKinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud
18:43.16RobTheDudei see colons after that question mark...
18:43.26Hobinheimwhat about after the question mark?
18:43.34MikmaTain: http://mikma.reaktio.net/pp.jpg <- Pillow Pants
18:43.54RobTheDudeO_o
18:44.04Hobinheim**** what about after the colons i mean
18:44.05Hobinheimsorry
18:45.03RobTheDudelol Hobinheim: does anyone see dashed after this colon? ::::: adys
18:45.07RobTheDudehappy?
18:45.22Hobinheimyes, thx
18:45.39Hobinheimsomeone has their name on some crazy filter so i'm trying to filter their name out of my chat
18:45.45TainThere was only one "Return of" and it was the Jedi
18:45.46Hobinheimsorry for the disruption. but thank you
18:46.12RobTheDudemeh, conversation is random anyways ^_^
18:46.18ravagernlwtf mikma
18:46.32Mikmaravagernl: what?
18:46.38snurre-man i wish they didnt make the collector's edition so heavy.. been lifting cases of 6x boxes all day :/
18:46.53andremarhaha
18:46.53ravagernlthose pictures, mikma is a pervert :P
18:46.55Thraevhaarr: Got the 150x version
18:46.55andremarwhere do you work snurre- ?
18:46.57Thraewhoops
18:47.01Mikmaravagernl: thanks :D
18:47.02cynyrsnurre-: mail me one overnight :P
18:47.05vhaarrThrae: o_O
18:47.06snurre-andremar: blizzard
18:47.08vhaarrmt, I guess.
18:47.11TainWhat's in the CE besides the big book?  A new pet?
18:47.12andremarsnurre-: ahh :)
18:47.14ThraeYeah, wrong network
18:47.53ravagernltekkub: I dont see rawr on your googlecode page, where is it? and o yeah, is mountme coming back?
18:48.00snurre-4x install cds, 1x dvd, 1x soundtrack, 1x behind the scenes dvd, 2x TCG starter decks, 1x TCG collector's edition pack with 4 cards
18:48.14snurre-1x mousemat, 1x book
18:48.27ravagernlGIEV
18:48.28TainAnd a partridge in a pear tree?
18:48.40Tekkubmount me is bit by bit, rawr is there in the svn, and wowi
18:48.44TainWow that's a whole lot of... stuff I don't want.
18:49.03ravagernlgoogle code has svn tekkub?
18:49.03cynyrTain: /agree
18:49.13Tekkubyes
18:49.48CIA-1703kagaro * r25134 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: fxed drycode typos
18:49.49sylvanaari liked mountme i was using it exclusively until the patch
18:49.50TainA new useless pet I'd take!  
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18:49.58Lysitheakagaro it works for both guys now
18:50.03Lysitheadid you change anything?
18:50.08kagaroyes I did
18:50.09TainPeople still ask me where they can get a Mini Diablo and I laugh at them!
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18:50.16LysitheaIt works anyway :)
18:50.19snurre-funny thing is that they fucked up the pet code for EU collector's editions
18:50.19Lysitheaty :)
18:50.41kagaroI would advise them to turn notifications off though it will be spammy
18:50.42ckknighthey all
18:50.43snurre-printed US codes by a mistake, so they don't work for anyone in EU
18:50.57andremarsnurre-: that sounds.. nice? :)
18:51.00Tainhah hah that's terrible.
18:51.16HealthHealOrganizer3 is in a bit of dev I guess?
18:51.30ravagernlpeople, does anyone know of a program I can cut clips of sound from mp3's and save them as wav files?
18:51.45kagarothe yard setting was wrong  lysithea
18:51.48RobTheDude_awayyeah, audacity
18:51.50cynyrokay, could i write a mod that would chnage grids layout while in combat?
18:51.59Lysitheakagaro as I thought then :)
18:52.28Thraecynyr: You can't change Secure frames in combat, Blizzard disallows it.
18:52.28kagarosorta of: I was giving it a yard value but didnt tell it to use yards, it was using map units instead
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18:52.56cynyrThrae: okay then.. i thought it was just that you couldn't change them from inside the mod....
18:53.16Lysitheagood thing you got it fixed before tbc release, we <3 you:)
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18:54.21CIA-1703kergoth * r25135 10kEnergy/ (Locale/enUS.lua addon.lua tick.lua): kEnergy: by request, add options for displaying text on the bar for combo points or energy amount, and add an option to specify the font size.
18:54.27sysrageanybody know how i can get the 'position' option to work in sRaidFrames? i want it on the right but it's stuck on the left
18:55.47kagarotalismonger is working like a champ, just need localizations added
18:56.38kagarodunno if I should add world chests/barrels as node events though or not
18:58.23sysragenobody knows? almost all the fubar mods have it, it's gotta be fairly straightforward?
18:59.22Smeltnok so with Postal I cant do mass mail anymore?
18:59.44EvilGrin|Winsysrage, sounds like your savevariables got corrupt.
18:59.45cynyrSmeltn: use bulkmail
19:00.27Smeltnis bulkmail just like postal?
19:00.30Smeltnor GMail
19:00.32Smeltnor one of those?
19:00.36kergothno, bulkmail is like bulkmail
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19:00.44cynyrSmeltn: all it does is mass mailings
19:00.44sysrageevilgrin: oh? so delete the savevariables for srf and it should work?
19:00.47Smeltnthanks
19:00.49ThraeSmeltn: Postal is the reincarnation of GMail
19:01.02Smeltnright.. but GMail handled bulkmail
19:01.19cynyrexpressmail is almost nicer in some ways...
19:01.22ravagernlaudacity looks nice :P
19:01.23ThraeBulkmail does mass-mailings, as does Postal. Postal also does some other stuff
19:01.36Smeltnpostal doesnt do mass mailings
19:01.42Hobinheimdo either of those work for 2.0.3?
19:01.42ThraeExactly.
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19:01.58RobTheDudeaye, i use audacity to rip ringtones ;)
19:02.10cynyrHobinheim: worse case you have to check load out of date
19:02.37Hobinheimcynyr, that is the worst case. we can't let the terrorists win
19:03.01cynyrHobinheim: you could always just update the .toc file
19:03.20ravagernlupdating the toc is bad, and should only be done by authors
19:03.39cynyrravagernl: not in the svn copy... just localy
19:03.57ravagernlhmm yeah
19:04.07Hobinheimi'm making my own addons and tarnishing the ace2 sign of quality... it's so exciting
19:04.13ravagernlI hate the cursegaming attitude where everyone just continues others addons
19:04.34HobinheimRayden, what alternative is there if an author stops developing?
19:04.44Raydenwoah
19:04.45Raydenhello
19:04.49cynyrHobinheim: i have an addon that shows 2 frams clicking one turns the other off while the mouse is down, and then back on when the mouse is up
19:04.54Raydeni do'nt think yo umeant to say my name did you?
19:05.02[Cu]WerikCurse Gaming attitude?
19:05.23ThraeHobinheim: "tarnishing" means you're badmouthing
19:05.27cynyrravagernl: what are they susposted to do?
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19:06.04HobinheimThrae, kidding
19:06.19ravagernlyeah, like poisonmaster redux, poisonmaster continued, poisonmaster continued again, poisonmaster fix 2.0
19:06.19Q6100% of the mods i use are ace.. problem solved :D
19:06.35cynyrravagernl: hemlock is much nicer than all of those
19:06.41ravagernlI know that :P
19:06.52ravagernlguess why i never go to cursegaming
19:06.52Thraeravagernl: Technically, you're suppose to ask, even with Curse-Gaming. But addon authors who post to Curse-Gaming usually aren't as zealotous as those who post to ui.worldofwar.net and WoWInterface
19:06.57cynyrravagernl: but yea.. a full name chnage would have been nice
19:07.15ravagernlthrae: thats what I meant with the cursegaming attitude
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19:07.28ckknightlousy users.
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19:07.32CIA-1703kergoth * r25136 10kEnergy/addon.lua: kEnergy: ensure the bar text is updated immediately upon changing the 'bartext' option.
19:07.47Thraeravagernl: I mean the addon authors of the original, not those who post their own versions.
19:08.06Hobinheimi don't see anything wrong with it
19:08.11proxieThis is killing me guys .... how do I make a function accept multiple parameters?
19:08.14Hobinheim*especially* if the addon author isn't responding
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19:08.24proxieif I have a function say, myFuction( a, b )
19:08.24Hobinheimproxie, what do you mean?
19:08.28cynyrThrae: i'll just gpl-2 any mods i write....
19:08.37proxieand I want to do /myFunction 1, 2
19:08.42Hobinheimthat accepts multiple parameters, there, you're done
19:08.42Thraeproxie: function foo(bar1,bar2,bar3) ... end; foo(a,b,c)
19:08.51proxiewhen i  pass that in to the function it always comes out as a = "1, 2"
19:09.13proxieb = nil
19:09.29Hobinheimare you sure you have the syntax correct?
19:09.39Thraeproxie: Oh, that's because slash commands are given as a string. You need to parse the string to determine what the options given are.
19:09.39proxiepretty sure.
19:09.41ravagernla, b = test()
19:09.59Thraeproxie: AceConsole can help.
19:10.25ThraeUsually people do /foo option suboption value
19:10.25proxieI've registered the chat command with AceConsole
19:10.37proxiehere's a snippet of the function ...
19:10.41cynyris there a way to do a mutiple assign like that where the first is local and the second is global?
19:10.42proxiefunction Viewport:SetViewport( x, y, width, height )
19:10.42proxieself:Print( x, y, width, height )
19:10.42ThraeIf your value includes commas, you need to parse it yourself
19:10.57Thraecynyr: no
19:11.04proxieand when i print that it comes out as: "1, 2, 3, 4" nil nil nil
19:11.14vhaarrThrae: sure it is
19:11.44vhaarrcynyr: local x; x, y = test(); -- where y is a global.
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19:12.08cynyrvhaarr: ahh yes that would do it
19:12.09Thraevhaarr: ? All I can think of for multiple assignment is local a,b = c,d
19:12.16Thraevhaarr: Well I assumed he meant in declaration
19:13.09Thraeproxie: Setup your slash command such as /myaddon setviewport x y width height
19:13.13Nimloth|who hum
19:13.16Thraeproxie: Don't use commas
19:13.16ckknightso I got an email
19:13.20ckknight"Hello,  I love your Whomod it is so nice thx."
19:13.29ckknightI never wrote a Whomod.
19:13.49Thraeckknight: Maybe he means a FuBar addon?
19:13.55[dRaCo]but your whomod rocks
19:13.56[dRaCo]-.-"
19:13.57ckknightpossible
19:14.12proxieperhaps I don't fully understand these OptionTables
19:14.28vhaarrproxie: There are plenty examples in the SVN.
19:14.35ckknightproxie: on your text option table, put input = true
19:15.15proxiemy option table should contain a list of each of the parameters that I want to pass in, right?
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19:15.45vhaarrno
19:15.55proxiehm
19:16.26vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon#Chat_Commands_and_Configuration
19:16.26proxieyeah, that's what I'm going off of
19:16.30vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table
19:16.50proxieit's only passing 1 variable though
19:16.57vhaarrobviously
19:17.00proxiei need to pass multiple and that's where I'm getting screwed up
19:17.10vhaarrThrae has explained it already.
19:17.55vhaarrAnd ckknight has given you a hint.
19:18.09ckknightI didn't give him a hint
19:18.16Zerylhey guys, I think i might have found a small bug in Bartender3, how would I go about reporting it?
19:18.18ckknightI gave him the solution.
19:18.21vhaarrno, well, you told him exactly how to do it :P
19:18.26Kaeltenanyone thats beenw aiting for svn access I got all of the requests processed.
19:18.30Kaelten<PROTECTED>
19:18.32vhaarrZeryl: Tell it to nevcairiel or post it on the forums.
19:18.40ckknightgawd, Kaelten
19:18.43ckknightpshaw
19:19.18proxieis it ...
19:19.21proxieinput = 'true'
19:19.23proxieor input = true
19:19.45ZerylI believe they do different things
19:20.06CIA-1703grennon * r25137 10Minimalist/ (Minimalist.lua Minimalist.toc): Minimalist: -smart taxi uses Dismount() api, toc updated
19:20.11ZerylI believe input = 'true' assigns the string true to input, wheres input =  true probably assigns the boolean value true to input
19:20.17proxieohhh, it worked
19:20.59proxie'preciate it, guys. sorry, I'm sure it gets rather annoying hearing stupid questions like that over and over.
19:21.03vhaarr<PROTECTED>
19:21.06vhaarrdamn, no op
19:21.42CIA-1703kagaro * r25138 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2: Added Nagarand Arean to de locale
19:22.01CIA-1703totalpackage * r25139 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
19:22.01CIA-17Cellular
19:22.01CIA-17- temp fix for Prat URL support issue (works fine, just looking for a better way)
19:22.55proxiedoes Ace2 have a function to get the CurrentScreenResolution() ?
19:23.27Zeryljust use Blizz's
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19:29.45stavmarckknight: the new mini battle map has your cartographer icons with the numbers and colors? Amazing how those things get used. If you could only force Cartographer to stay open after dying in BGs?
19:29.59ckknighthrm
19:30.02ckknightI should work on that...
19:30.12ckknightlemme test
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19:35.45sylvanaarto too bad he isnt on irc
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19:36.52ag`what's the attribute called you set to a unit frame that makes it observe pet instead?
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19:39.04Grineag`, got aguf throwing errors at me at an insane rate :P
19:39.56Grineor I had, after a /reloadui
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19:40.32CIA-1703benumbed * r25140 10MusicStream/ (27 files in 4 dirs):
19:40.32CIA-17MusicStream:Removed code for streaming radio stations
19:40.32CIA-17- Added support for playing MP3's inside MusicStream/Music folder
19:40.34Noekoe|DAWNanyone know wich error might cause troubels with sizes of your inventory and bank bags?
19:40.46Noekoe|DAWNerr wich addon*
19:43.52ckknightstavmar: alright, got that fixed
19:44.46renchapckknight: is it easy to add a GuildMap module to cartographer ? :)
19:44.53cynyrNoekoe|DAWN: what kind of troubles?
19:45.00Temyacoob, no, actually
19:45.03Noekoe|DAWNmy bags are resized
19:45.06Noekoe|DAWNand they are HUGE
19:45.17Noekoe|DAWNlike all over my screen
19:45.17Temyacoob, nevermind me.   That was the result of not scrolling down
19:45.37cynyrNoekoe|DAWN: sounds like scale problem...
19:45.38Noekoe|DAWNmy gues is its Postman
19:45.45cynyrpostal?
19:45.50Noekoe|DAWNnah it looks to weird to be a scale problem
19:46.01ckknightrenchap: um, maybe.
19:46.07Noekoe|DAWNi just installed it today to replace GMail
19:46.11CIA-1703athou * r25142 10EnchantList/:
19:46.11CIA-17EnchantList:
19:46.11CIA-17- adding externals
19:46.19Noekoe|DAWNremoved it now checking  if its gone
19:48.02Noekoe|DAWNnope still there :S
19:48.53Koaschtenonly bag scaling weird or anything?
19:49.01cynyrstupid vim7 it should know when the next line below a comment isn't going to be a comment, with out me doing anything
19:49.18testifyWhat is this enchantlist thinger? I don't see it on the addon list.
19:49.34Noekoe|DAWNhttp://www.ltown.nl/awake/upload/images/bagsize.jpg
19:49.36Noekoe|DAWNcheck that
19:49.41kergothcynyr, you can disable that behavior, but then you'd be complaining when it doesnt put the comment prefix when you're writing comments :P
19:50.06Noekoe|DAWNi disabled Skinner also but still same problem
19:50.15Anduneugg, where'd the nice README for Postal go?  I was tracking it's development through it's "too be implemented" features..  the big one I was waiting for was MassMail.  That been implemented yet?
19:50.31CIA-1703athou * r25143 10ArenaMaster/ (. ArenaMaster.toc Core.lua localization.lua):
19:50.31CIA-17ArenaMaster: initial commit
19:50.31CIA-17- Helps you to identify what are the classes of your opponents in arenas.
19:50.51Noekoe|DAWNnot in Postman
19:51.00Noekoe|DAWNno masmail yet
19:51.23cynyrkergoth: yea, i'm sure i could.. i'm not really complaing... because i think hitting enter gets rid of them... theres a key for it
19:51.24Anduneah.  I'll wait then, thanks for the update.
19:51.37Koaschtenpostal and postman are 2 different addons
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19:52.02Andunekoaschten:  whoops you're right.  It's Postal I'm interested in.
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19:52.23Noekoe|DAWNthats why i said Postman dont have it :)
19:52.25Anduneoh LOL no it's not.  wow I'm confused.  
19:52.33AnduneI see the readme now in PostMAN.  :)
19:52.40Noekoe|DAWNlol :))
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19:53.07snirkshi im a man
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19:53.28Noekoe|DAWNa postman?
19:54.06CIA-1703athou * r25144 10ArenaMaster/:
19:54.06CIA-17ArenaMaster:
19:54.06CIA-17- adding externals
19:55.01Mikmahttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/344307912_4d59d30156_o.jpg
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19:56.06haarmwould have been so much better if they used the capacitors to light the leds :P
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19:58.14PogoTribalIs that resistor using a strap-on?
19:58.40sylvanaarcase mods
19:58.44Stephmwlooks like a strapon
19:58.52cynyrthats what it looks like to me
19:59.07sylvanaarmvm i looked
19:59.14StephmwMikma: what's the flickr link for the comments on that pic?
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19:59.55vid`hah that pic with the resistors is awsome
19:59.57vid`awe*
20:00.10trh_PogoTribal: i'd guess resistors are all female ;)
20:00.10CIA-1703athou * r25146 10MultiTips/ (. MultiTips.lua MultiTips.toc MultiTips.xml):
20:00.10CIA-17MultiTips: initial commit
20:00.10CIA-17- Allows multiple tooltips of itemlinks to be opened at the same time.
20:01.35Zerylis there another place I can download !!!StandaloneLibraries? the install just isn't working
20:01.57ZealotOnAStickDid you read the readme in it?
20:02.03ZealotOnAStickIt's just a collection of empty folders.
20:02.05Zerylnot too hard to double click install.bat
20:02.12Zerylthere is no empty folders in mine
20:02.12CIA-1703ckknight * r25147 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer-LookNFeel - no longer close map on death.
20:02.16ZealotOnAStickHrm.
20:02.27Zeryldo i have to download it w/ externals i'm guessing?
20:02.30ZealotOnAStickThey must have changed it?
20:02.30ckknightstavmar: ^-- test
20:02.36CIA-1703athou * r25148 10MultiTips/:
20:02.36CIA-17MultiTips:
20:02.36CIA-17- adding externals
20:03.11AnduneZeryl: I think the download using WAU is empty last time I checked.  Have to check out of SVN to get the folders.
20:03.11Zerylok
20:03.11Zerylthank you :)
20:03.11ZealotOnAStickIf you use WinZip . . .
20:03.12ZealotOnAStickYou won't see the folders.
20:03.22sylvanaarahem
20:03.33ZealotOnAStickOpen with Winrar or the windows built-in zip stuff
20:03.40sylvanaarNeed Beta Testers for 1.7 WAU PST to apply
20:03.49stavmarckknight: will do
20:03.51bakkodasign me up
20:04.01snurre-sylvanaar: givf
20:04.01sysrageis there a mod that JUST removes the Map button from the minimap?
20:04.05Koaschtensure sylvanaar
20:04.16ckknightsysrage: um, no, but it's in Cartographer.
20:04.18sylvanaarjoin #wau
20:05.08Adirelle~blpviewer
20:05.40art3mishrm clearfonts doesnt hook into prat for channel fonts does it?
20:05.54AnduneAnyone else have the problem using skinner where the AH frame is no longer re-skinned until you check it on/off in the FuBar menu?
20:08.13Adirelleany working blp viewer for win32 ? google failed at this
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20:08.27art3misirfranview?
20:08.33mattlesneg
20:08.37mattlesthat's a tga viewer
20:08.42mattlesi don't believe it can view blps though
20:08.44art3misits an everything viewer ;P
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20:09.52Zerylwait, how does this musicstreamer addon work?!
20:10.19art3misit doesnt
20:10.22PogoTribalIrfanview rocks.
20:10.30art3misit's just a music player now not a streamer
20:10.37PogoTribalIn other news... someone needs to make a Winamp plugin for WOW.
20:10.45art3mistehre was one
20:10.47art3missorta
20:10.56art3miswowamp i think
20:11.26Noekoe|DAWNok found bug
20:11.26bakkodai had looked at using DDE with WoW at one time but i realized it was in over my head
20:11.28Makkis there a way to clear all your actionbars?
20:11.40Noekoe|DAWNwas something with MoveIt didnt update properly
20:11.53Noekoe|DAWNworking as intended now :p
20:12.08cynyr/shug/hugs/
20:12.13vhaarr:P
20:12.17PogoTribalMakk: Delete your WTF folder :)
20:12.17cynyrs/hug/hugs/
20:12.24stavmarckknight: where do i get the revision from
20:12.28PogoTribalActually that doesn't do it.
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20:13.19cynyrNoekoe|DAWN: lol "working as intended" ROFL
20:14.29Noekoe|DAWN:)
20:14.29art3mishttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3779
20:14.30PogoTribal"working as intended" will be a phrase used for the rest of our lives.
20:14.32Stephmwworks for things outside of WoW too
20:15.02StephmwTrain delays? Corrupt politicians? No WMDs? Working as intended.
20:15.20bakkodaweapons of mass distraction?
20:15.26art3mishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4615-Soundtrack.html
20:15.30art3misthats a groovy addon
20:15.39PogoTribalMmm... maybe I don't really want a WoW MP3 player...
20:15.49Q6winamp ftw
20:16.00Q6window mode
20:16.04bakkodalitestep doesnt unfocus my wow window
20:16.14art3mislitestep is evil ;P
20:16.17art3misbb4win!
20:16.18bakkodaso i can still use hotkeys and change songs :P
20:16.21ckknightstavmar: it should show up on /files/ soon
20:16.22bakkodaew
20:16.24bakkodanever
20:16.25Industrialexplorer!
20:16.31PogoTribalI usually just set up a playlist, hit random/repeat and then play WoW, no biggy I guess.
20:16.33art3mistiny cleaner faster better ;P
20:16.42PogoTribalThat Soundtrack mod seems interesting though.
20:16.44cynyrart3mis: windows is evil
20:16.51cynyrwell not nice
20:16.53Industriallets stop there
20:16.54Industrial.
20:16.57art3mistrue
20:17.02art3misbut at least im using win2k
20:17.18bakkodai only use this windows box for mundae tasks like burning encoding archiving
20:17.20Benumbedmusicstream works again, just mp3's now
20:17.21cynyrart3mis: thats probbaly the best one they have made... that or 3.11
20:17.23CIA-1703athou * r25149 10ArenaMaster/ArenaMaster.toc:
20:17.23CIA-17ArenaMaster:
20:17.23CIA-17- TOC updated
20:17.24art3miswith a pretty x-win overlay ;P
20:17.25bakkodasince thats about all its good for :P
20:17.48art3misi have my speakers off most oft he time
20:17.48cynyrbakkoda: i like have sripts do all that for me
20:17.53art3misso i dont bother with it
20:17.54CIA-1703athou * r25150 10EnchantList/EnchantList.toc:
20:17.54CIA-17EnchantList:
20:17.54CIA-17- TOC updated
20:18.07CIA-1703athou * r25151 10MultiTips/MultiTips.toc:
20:18.07CIA-17MultiTips:
20:18.07CIA-17- TOC Updated
20:18.11art3mismy bose lifestyle 35 pics up the music slack if gorgeous 5.1 DDS ;)
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20:18.27Nomad_Wandererif Grid gets lost off the minimap, how do you get it back?
20:18.36break19wind.. windo...wuh wuh.. damn.. I cant even say that word.
20:19.01art3mishehe its win32 ;P
20:19.03art3misand nix
20:19.17art3misflavour of nix doesnt matter
20:19.18break19bah.. give me BSD and OSX
20:19.20art3misas long as it's nix
20:19.37Industrial#oswars
20:19.39art3misLong live the daemon ;P
20:19.47art3miswe're not having a war
20:19.52art3misgrow up geez ;P
20:20.04CIA-1703benumbed * r25152 10MusicStream/README.TXT: MusicStream:Fixed Typo in Readme
20:20.06Industrial#osdiscussion
20:20.09art3mislaugh
20:20.12art3mistouche!
20:20.13break19<- has the best of both worlds... elegant, functional GUI, with a unix command line.. :)
20:20.21art3misyeah osx is sexy
20:20.26ckknightOS X ftw
20:20.30Industrialsigh.
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20:20.42break19heh
20:20.52art3misyou fergot "and can play wow without hassle"
20:21.08art3missuer vmware and wine can do it
20:21.10art3missure
20:21.14cynyrbreak19: i really really want a mac...
20:21.15art3misbut its ugly ;)
20:21.21break19not exactly true... when the servers's are down.. i cant play wow without hassle
20:21.30art3missemantics
20:21.33break19heh
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20:21.47art3misi need to purge vista from my laptop
20:21.54break19heh
20:21.55Benumbedvista hates me
20:22.03art3misi had it on there as aprt of the beta team
20:22.08*** join/#wowace Dhraga (n=chatzill@213-64-237-101-o871.telia.com)
20:22.09art3misi despite that piece of shit
20:22.13art3misdespise
20:22.19Dhragaevening
20:22.20StephmwBenumbed: good god man, talk about living on the edge
20:22.20bakkodathat bad huh?
20:22.24art3misoh god yeah
20:22.28BenumbedI have RTM and it sees my bad ram where xp doesnt care
20:22.32break19vista.. kinda looks like osx.. heh
20:22.52art3mistake all the shit you hated about ME, add in zonealarm as your main security package with symantec menus ;P
20:22.52bakkodaim pretty sure my next box will be a mac
20:22.59bakkodaomg
20:23.06bakkodasygate ftw on windoze
20:23.13art3misthats about vista
20:23.34StephmwBenumbed: WoW 2.0.4/5 is kinda like Vista... unstable, unrecommended, unloved and un*stable*
20:23.37art3misand its ugly
20:23.42Benumbedheh
20:23.56Benumbedmine is stable, just sees my 2 bad sticks of ram
20:23.57art3mishah
20:24.00break19my security system: a big dog, a shotgun, and my router.. keep those pesky intruders away. :p
20:24.01Benumbedtake them out and its fine
20:24.04ckknightStephmw: you said unstable twice.
20:24.08ravagernlomfg... feking kruul, they pulled him ontop of the flight master in ORG
20:24.09cynyrwhy is "if nil == GetSubZoneText() then
20:24.13Stephmwckknight: purely for emphasis
20:24.14cynyr" always false?
20:24.14ravagernlwhaaahhahaha
20:24.36Thraecynyr: Try just "if not GetSubZoneText()"
20:24.44Thorgardkergoth, [2007/01/14 14:23:52-68-x5]: kEnergy\tick.lua:7: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'b' (a nil value)
20:24.47Stephmwravagernl: time to have a chat with your friendly guild mages
20:24.48cynyrThrae: kk
20:24.50break19oh, hey ag, you there?
20:25.13ravagernl~seen ag`
20:25.28purlag` is currently on #wowi-lounge (8h 10m 27s) #wowace (8h 10m 27s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 48m 36s, last said: 'what's the attribute called you set to a unit frame that makes it observe pet instead?'.
20:25.29cynyrThrae: i'm playing with the WelcomeHome tutorial on wowace
20:25.43ravagernlthere
20:25.47art3mishttp://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?p=753761 <-- blp2tga convertor
20:25.51cynyrThrae: nope.. still always false
20:25.58break19ravagernl: I can read :p
20:26.05break19i was wondering if he was lurking :P
20:26.35trhany idea why tortoise svn on import tells me: "Error MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/some-hex-string': Could not parse response status lin." ? :)
20:26.38trhlin = line
20:26.44Thraecynyr: Well I'd think GetSubZoneText() would always be something
20:27.08cynyrThrae: not in anvilmar, well it might be a non nil..
20:27.10ckknightThrae: not true, it can be nil
20:27.35cynyrAnvilmar doesn't have a subzone
20:27.40Adirellefinally, found on curse
20:27.46Adirellepurl, blp is http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3290/blp2png/
20:27.49purlAdirelle: okay
20:27.54Adirelle~blp
20:27.56purlwell, blp is http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3290/blp2png/
20:28.01Thraecynyr: Do as I always do -- self:Msg( tostring( VariableYouWantToCheckForNil ) )
20:28.09art3misgod dammit
20:28.13art3missomeone needs to fix eepanels
20:28.17art3misthis is pissing me off
20:28.26Matrix110eepanels works Oo
20:28.41art3miseverytime i set the panels and relog they go away
20:28.42ThraeYeah, god damn lazy authors, even after I donated my complaints to them, they still don't fix anything!
20:28.54art3misevery single time
20:28.59ckknightThrae: :Msg?
20:29.07bakkodayesh i was making custom textures for my eepanels
20:29.10Adirelleanyone skilled in texturing ?
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20:29.12ThraeWell, :print for Ace2
20:29.22cynyrThrae: it says nil..
20:29.27PogoTribalTexturing? Sure.
20:29.32art3miseven tried what the forums suggest with deleteing the saved crap in WTF and not dragging them but typeing in the numbers
20:29.33Hockhi guys
20:29.42PogoTribalI can make you a texture in PS, but I don't know how to integrate it with WoW.
20:29.45art3missomehow magically the panels ALWAYS go away after i relog
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20:29.55Thraecynyr: So it fails GetSubZoneText() == nil ?
20:30.06Hockso i recall seeing there was an ace addon for tracking the rep you are currently receiving and change the activated xp bar replacement.
20:30.07AdirellePogoTriba: erf
20:30.08ThraeHmmm...maybe GetSubZoneText has two returns?
20:30.09cynyrThrae: opps.. forgot to edit...
20:30.10PogoTribalI have about 800mb of texture graphics.
20:30.20kenlyric|homeug, fubar hates bugrabber every time I die.
20:30.27ThraeWell it would check the first one anyway
20:30.28Hockanyone recall the name of that rep addon?
20:30.31cynyrThrae: it's not nil it's ""
20:30.35ravagernlrawr! new statusbar texture!
20:30.42Thraecynyr: Ah there you go then
20:30.58Thraecynyr: check string.len( GetSubZoneText() ) == 0
20:31.16AdirellePogoTriba: I have the graphics (from wow's mpq), but I don't really know how to use them as a backdrop...
20:31.19Finis WoW using Lua 5.1 yet?
20:31.26AdirelleFin: since 2.0
20:31.36Finthank you kindly
20:31.50PogoTribalOh, I thought you wanted a custom texture actually created.
20:31.56Adirelleno sry
20:32.03PogoTribalI don't know anything about add-ons.
20:32.07PogoTribalI'm just here for the cookies.
20:32.14Adirellelol, ok, np
20:32.43ravagernlrawr http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8996/wowscrnshot011407211009ae6.jpg <- new statusbar texture made by me, check aguf :P
20:33.13GngskIs there a way to tell if the group you just joined was a battleground raid or a 'regular' raid?
20:33.49Stephmwcheck which zone you're in?
20:34.50cynyrThrae: is 'if "" == GetSubZoneText() then' bad?
20:34.59cynyrbecause that works
20:35.19Thraecynyr: "" creates a new string I believe, then == checks the string length between the two
20:35.30ThraeOr maybe Lua is smarter then I thought?
20:35.31stavmarckknight: behaving well, works well thanks for the update
20:35.37Thraeckknight would know
20:35.38cynyrThrae: so slightly more overhead
20:35.55ckknightI know all!
20:36.08cynyrwell, which is the "better" way...
20:36.26ravagernlckknight: impossible!
20:36.41ravagernlI know your mummy has a bear, didnt you know?
20:36.44ravagernlbeard*
20:36.55Hockravagernl - what square map mod is that?
20:37.00Hockis that squeenix?
20:37.11ravagernlsimpleminimap
20:37.22Hockace mod?
20:37.32ThraeGod I love irssi.
20:38.13Cheadsgrr suddenly none of my herbs show up on cartographer with cartographer_herbalism
20:38.16nadasThrae: i share your passion :)
20:38.19Trancerirssi si teh win.
20:38.24StephmwThrae: aye, add screen and it's bliss
20:38.30cynyrravagernl: does that do the squre minimap icons too?
20:38.37Trancerbummer you still can't detach tho
20:38.51Trancerneed to load my screen in UTF but cba to restart the client ;/
20:38.51Gngskjust use screen :)
20:38.52ravagernlno, thats a detached fubar panel with plugins set with no text option on
20:38.55ThraeStephmw: And screen_away
20:38.56TrancerI got screen
20:39.03Gngskthen you're set
20:39.04Trancerbut need to screen -U it, can't set that runtime ;/
20:39.21cynyrravagernl: ohh didn't know that was an option...
20:39.22StephmwThrae: not bothered with screen_away so far ;)
20:39.37Stephmwutf8 isn't such a problem for me either
20:39.45ThraeStephmw: Very simple script. Just sets you away when you detach.
20:39.47ravagernl:(
20:39.48ravagernl:)
20:39.48ravagernlups, double typo :P
20:39.50Tranceronly trouble with screen + irssi is that lockup bug
20:40.05ThraeTrancer: Never happened for me in my 3 years of use
20:40.08Stephmwditto
20:40.14Trancerif you d/c from shell in a dirty manner, SSH + bash will keep open, d/c'ing everything inside irssi
20:40.24cynyrTrancer: lockup bug? i'm using screen + irssi right now
20:40.27Trancerhappens here twice a year or so
20:40.43Trancerbut it's *annoying* when it does
20:40.51StephmwTrancer: when that happens, ssh in, don't screen and just kill -9 that dodgy shell
20:40.53kergothif screen hangs up, and your -r hangs trying to re-attach, its easily fixed
20:41.01ThraeTrancer: OK, I'll terminate PuTTY
20:41.02kergothyeah, kill -9 the sshd thats the parent of the shell
20:41.06TrancerStephmw: yeah, that's what I do :p
20:41.13ravagernlI should make a topic on wowace about the bartextures I have been making, maybe even branch surfaces :P
20:41.15TrancerStephmw: but sometimes I am AFK and get mashed ;/
20:41.33Stephmwthat's not a lockup then... a lockup would be locking up the box... like WINE does every now and then
20:41.40ThraeTrancer: I forcibly terminated the PuTTY process in Windows XP and no problem.
20:41.41Stephmw... or WoW's patcher
20:42.05TrancerThrae: it happens more often when the net blows out for a silly reason, or you power down at once, putty isn't really the trouble
20:42.10CIA-1703kagaro * r25153 10Talismonger-2.0/Talismonger-2.0.lua: Talismonger-2.0: added world nodes for mats
20:42.40Adirellepurl, egdeFiles is http://www.wowwiki.com/EdgeFiles
20:42.42purlAdirelle: okay
20:42.42cynyrravagernl: what hud is that?
20:43.03ravagernlcynyr: ICEhud
20:43.15TrancerStephmw: you run WoW under WINE?
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20:43.22cynyrravagernl: hmm looks nice.. not that i need yet another mod..
20:43.26Trancerusing Cedega here but it's not very pleasant
20:43.34StephmwTrancer: well, Cedega
20:43.43cynyrTrancer: i'm running wow under wine
20:43.45Stephmwit's mostly fine under Beryl
20:43.49kergothi've not had problems with cedega. fps isnt always as high as i'd like, but works fine
20:43.51ravagernlsome people say metahud is better I would doubt that
20:44.06cynyrkergoth: are you using d3d or opengl?
20:44.22kergothravagernl, metahud has some advantages in that the casting bar is the outline of the existing bar, not a seperate one, but thats about it, and its less flexible than ice
20:44.24Stephmwkergoth: apparently nymbia has a high-fps setup - but I won't bother trying too hard to replicate it until after my holiday... and the massive TBC rush
20:44.26Trancermyeah, probly need to tweak that
20:44.31PogoTribalravagernl: I'm dead!
20:44.34Trancerd3d is borking pretty much and opengl works only
20:44.40kergothat one point i had my cedega performing better than wow did under windows
20:44.46Trancerwhich sucks,as my winxp install uses d3d.. so need to keep swapping WTF dirs
20:44.48kergothbut i've not been able to reproduce that configuration since
20:44.53Trancernot to mention that my framerate is shit on cedega
20:45.05ravagernlpogotribal: lol :D
20:45.08art3mishrm
20:45.20cynyrTrancer: just add the -opengl switch when you launch wow
20:45.24Stephmwcynyr: in AV scrums too?
20:45.27art3misis anyone here using eepanels and has the panels actually stay on the screen after each restart/relog?
20:45.30Trancercynyr: ah, didn't know that, will try it later
20:45.37Trancercynyr: that swapping was pretty shit annoying, heh
20:45.40ravagernlkergoth: outline of the healthbar as the castingbar? how ugly is that
20:45.51ravagernlshees :S
20:45.58kergothit isnt the health bar, and its not ugly. metahud is gorgeous compared to ice, even with the round texture
20:46.03cynyrStephmw: umm AV on D i probably drop to 10... but i blame that on the 512MB ram i have
20:46.06kergothits textures wipe the floor with it
20:46.18PogoTribalravagernl: What's the red line from left to right along the bottom of your upper FuBar frame?
20:46.18kergothicehud's energy tick is pretty kickass though
20:46.18ravagernlhmm, yeah, gonna check it out then
20:46.21Stephmwcynyr: I just blame it on wow :)
20:46.31Trancerwow is very effficient *cough* -.-
20:46.31ravagernlpogotribal: fuxpfu with custom colors
20:46.33kergothPogoTribal, probably fuxpfu
20:46.42Trancerit's all a lot better than C&C Generals tho ;)
20:46.42Stephmwcynyr: I have 2gb ram and a 512mb 7800GS... on a 4200 amd64x2
20:46.45cynyrStephmw: well wow says 512mb is min.. but they really mean 1G and 2-4G for playable
20:47.04cynyrStephmw: dosn't the GS steal system ram?
20:47.05PogoTribalAhhh, makes sense.
20:47.09Stephmwcynyr: naw
20:47.16ravagernlI made it red, and rested orange :P
20:47.17cynyrStephmw: ohh
20:47.22Stephmwcynyr: they just chopped the bus speeds down
20:47.30Stephmwcynyr: it's passively cooled
20:47.33ravagernlto compliment my factionside: FOR TEH HORDE!
20:47.37Stephmwcynyr: agp
20:47.41snurre-anyone know how to change the colour of ElkBuffBars?
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20:47.49cynyrStephmw: ahh.. last vid card i bought was a year ago.. and it took me about a month of reasearch to catch up
20:47.52CrisCrOsshe;;p
20:47.53CrisCrOsshello*
20:48.00Trancerhehe, frigging hardware vendors
20:48.09Trancerif I want a new X I need to buy a whole new system
20:48.13PogoTribalCool, anyways it's a pretty clean UI, could use some texture but again, it maeks me wish I had a widescreen.
20:48.13Stephmwcynyr: woops, sorry, 7600GS... the 7800 was too big
20:48.18cynyrStephmw: my 6600GT AGP has a fan.. and runs about 140C
20:48.22CrisCrOssAnyone know why although i have Tinytip/TinyTip Options it wont load when i press /tinytip because it says Tinytip options cannot be found?
20:48.28Stephmwcynyr: *faints*
20:48.35PogoTribalAnd it reminds me I have to try Tinytip.
20:48.37Trancer140?!
20:48.44PogoTribal(again)
20:48.47Stephmwcynyr: no fan, I have it in a shuttle case and mine runs at 74C
20:49.00Tranceri have an ati radeon 9200 :x
20:49.08Trancerand I always miss the nefarian and chromaggus money loots
20:49.13Trancerbecause I crash when nef dies -.-
20:49.15PogoTribalWhat's this about 2-4g for playable?
20:49.28StephmwPogoTribal: WoW in big encounters
20:49.33PogoTribalWoW doesn't need more than 1gb ever.
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20:49.39StephmwPogoTribal: or busy 40-40 AV scrums
20:49.55Trancerace helped a lot with making my WoW less resource hungry tho
20:49.56PogoTribalI'd have to disagree.
20:50.07PogoTribalI have no problem 40 v 40.
20:50.17PogoTribalUntil the mages start AoEing.
20:50.23AndunePogoTribal:  close.  If you run a minimal set of mods, sure.
20:50.24Trancerthat means you have a problem ;)
20:50.25cynyrStephmw: if i took the heatsink off and got some real thermal paste, i would probbaly be down around 100C under load
20:50.32Tranceras mages always aoe, pesty bitches
20:50.34CrisCrOssanyone know?
20:50.37StephmwTrancer: oi!
20:50.42AndunePogoTribal: I have 2G, mods consuming 64MB, and using 55% RAM.
20:50.43PogoTribalThat's when I'm reminded to but spell details on medium.
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20:50.56StephmwTrancer: I live, therefore I AE... only stop AEing when I'm dead.
20:50.58TrancerCrisCrOss: ehm, it should work tbh ;/ got deucecommander?
20:51.01TrancerStephmw: heheh
20:51.02AndunePogoTribal: and don't forget the extra RAM is used as a disk cache by the OS, runs slower when it doesn't have that.
20:51.13cynyrStephmw: or you are out of mana...
20:51.18Trancerand then you get silenced by a deep into shadow but holy looking priest ;)
20:51.21PogoTribalI understand. Maybe if you have a big resolution you need 2gb.
20:51.29Stephmwcynyr: nah, I never run out of mana before I die these days
20:51.34Stephmwcynyr: pesky hunters
20:51.44TrancerI love mages
20:51.46Trancer"zomg, priest"
20:51.53PogoTribalBut for 1280x1024 and smaller at full detail, I have a 9600XT and an Athlon 64 1800, I run 40-man raids just fine on 1gb of RAM.
20:51.58Stephmwcynyr: but usually, I manage my mana/health well enough to be out of both at the same time
20:51.59Trancer"trinket, ap, lets fireball woowoo"
20:52.00Trancer*silence*
20:52.02cynyrStephmw: yea... /me is a rogue thats been hit with a /nerf bat too many times
20:52.03Trancer*dispel*
20:52.06Trancer"asdsadas!"
20:52.07PogoTribalMy add-on footprint is 35-50mb
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20:52.48Stephmwthere's a difference between 40-man raids that are just ticking along... and omgwtf 40-man raids that suddently become interesting..
20:52.51TrancerI got 768 mb ram, on my ati radeon 9600 mobile with centrino 1.7 ghz, 24mb addon footprint
20:52.53PogoTribalRaids will go about 24fps, very playable at full detail.
20:52.54Trancerworks all good
20:52.56Trancerin 1024
20:52.58AndunePogoTribal: I don't doubt 1G is enough to run WoW comfortably.  But I bet you'd see a performance kick from an extra 512.
20:53.08cynyrPogoTribal: i was doing 40mans with a 6600GT and 512Mb
20:53.20StephmwPogoTribal: I'm much happier when my rate hits ~50, feels smoother
20:53.21Trancersame here, it works, nuff said
20:53.22cynyrPogoTribal: at 1280
20:53.32StephmwTrancer: aye, all our setups are different
20:53.34CrisCrOssit really doesnt work like i swear iv loadedit
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20:53.39PogoTribalWhen I had 512mb the game was crap. I couldn't enter IF without 30 seconds of loading.
20:53.44CrisCrOssit just says TinyTip Options LoadOnDemand not found
20:53.48SapiensYou can do 40mans on 1GB and a 6600GT as long as your CPU is up to snuff.  On an Athlon XP 3000+ I'm fine at 1152 or 1280.
20:53.52TrancerStephmw: it so depends on hardware config etc.. etc..
20:53.52CrisCrOsseverytime time i type the command /tinytip
20:53.54TrancerCrisCrOss: recent version?
20:53.56ElkanoI still HAVE 512 :(
20:54.00Anduneugg, yeah.  I'd never recommend < 1G for WoW.  Sounds painful.
20:54.00CrisCrOsslatest from the WoWAceUpdater
20:54.02cynyrPogoTribal: thats a feature.. get more soda/food/bio etc
20:54.05StephmwPogoTribal: had that problem with IF too... rerolled Horde and that problem mostly went away :)
20:54.10TrancerElkano: perhaps reduce your *3* fubar bars? :p
20:54.13TrancerElkano: that might speed stuff up ;)
20:54.20PogoTribal1gb really makes it shine, I'm sure 2gb will make it even better, but I wonder when the FPS for 40-mans really comes down to raw power.
20:54.20StephmwPogoTribal: Orgrimmar never gets as bad as IF was
20:54.27PogoTribalStephmw: Org is better, yeah.
20:54.32Elkanowell, I want to upgrade to 1gb since years ;)
20:54.33TrancerUC ftw.
20:54.36CIA-1703trh * r25155 10VanasKoS/:
20:54.36CIA-17VanasKoS:
20:54.36CIA-17- externals
20:54.43TrancerElkano: same here.. but guess what?
20:54.47Elkanobut it was a pain from the beginning so I got used to it
20:54.48TrancerElkano: they stopped selling that type of memory.. -.-
20:54.48StephmwTrancer: aye - although it's not as convenient for the blimps
20:54.50art3mis[2007/01/14 15:50:18-159-x1]: eePanels-1.0\core.lua:867: attempt to call method 'SetAllPoints' (a nil value)
20:54.50PogoTribalBut it can still get pretty bad at peak time. I never had a problem with Thunder Bluff, that's my capital city of choice.
20:55.00CrisCrOssany ideas?
20:55.01PogoTribalTB has all the important skill trainers one one peak.
20:55.07Stephmwaye
20:55.09TrancerTB is chaotic
20:55.11CrisCrOssi jus wanna enable ToT in the tooltip
20:55.12Stephmwgreat for engineers
20:55.17Trancerstupid move up tower
20:55.21PogoTribalcynyr: lol
20:55.27TrancerCrisCrOss: hmm nope :/
20:55.32Matrix110tbc client is 4CDs bla-.-
20:55.49Trancermaybe I should buy TBC ^^
20:55.54ElkanoI hope my CE will arrive ;)
20:56.01Trancerwhy can't I just order a CDKEY online
20:56.09Matrix110you can at some stores
20:56.09Stephmwquick poll: how closely do you look at the talent's *rank* descriptions when you're making a build on the online talent pages?
20:56.15Trancerinstant?
20:56.19FtH|DaemonaTrancer cause you NEED the 4 cd's ;)
20:56.26TrancerFtH|Daemona: bah, that sucks
20:56.28FtH|Daemonaits been in several blue posts
20:56.32Ordoguhm actually no you dont Trancer
20:56.32Matrix110FtH|Daemona you can DL them already :P
20:56.33PogoTribalStephmw: All 40-mans kind of have a performance test, but if you're smooth on Razorgore in BWL, you're pretty much straight for anything else.
20:56.36Ordogjust update the beta :)
20:56.42Matrix110Beta WONT work
20:56.45TrancerFtH|Daemona: they should just send ehm over in .torrent or whatever.. I just want the key when I got time (don't have time the coming week(s))
20:56.46Matrix110but you can DL the client already
20:56.47FtH|DaemonaMatrix110 i didnt say you have to buy it ;)
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20:57.08ckknightthis Comic Life program on my mac is actually pretty shiny.
20:57.21ckknightif only I could actually draw...
20:57.22Trancercomic life?
20:57.33Trancersounds like a variant of comic chat
20:57.35Trancer^^
20:57.35ckknightTrancer: lets you make comics freaky easy
20:57.42Trancerah
20:57.53andremarckknight: its a great entertainment for young kids when you have a mac with an isight :)
20:58.27ckknightmaybe I could just find images of things that I didn't necessarily draw...
20:58.27Trancerreminds me of an old IBM Game called Magical Theatre, you could make your own movies by compiling together some weird shit, was in 1995, heh
20:58.33TrancerThe world has progressed lots -.-
20:59.30Kaeltenhow do you kill aprocess by pid number?
20:59.38Trancerkill -9 pid
20:59.47trhcorrect
21:00.02CIA-1703saroz * r25156 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Added Evasion
21:00.11ckknighthrm, maybe if I did something wow-related
21:00.18Kaeltenwoot
21:00.24Kaeltensquids a check
21:00.33Trancerreverse proxy setup?
21:00.39KaeltenTrancer: yep
21:00.42Trancernice!
21:00.48PogoTribalWhy did they make Dreamless Sleep Potion a magic effect? I saw someone use one the other day and I dispelled it, he was kinda mad.
21:00.52Kaeltenwell I'm working on the new server
21:00.59Kaeltenso its a log way from being done. but I'm working
21:01.00Kaelten<PROTECTED>
21:01.03Trancerah ;)
21:01.08kenlyric|homepogotribal lol.
21:01.16kenlyric|homeit's always been that way, I think
21:01.28StephmwPogoTribal: another wtf... wtf is there only one thing warlocks can stick on a mage which is a curse? everything else is a magic effect...
21:01.41Kaeltensome how it got stuck on and I couldn't stop it
21:01.59PogoTribalI think warlocks can only have one curse at a time or something.
21:02.02Kaeltenhrm did it again...
21:02.06Kaeltenmaybe my pid isn't setup right
21:02.12sysrageis the code to hide the map icon on the minimap simple? anybody have it so i can drop it into another addon?
21:02.52art3misi wodner if it needs a parent guide frame
21:03.01TrancerPogoTribal: correct
21:03.17Trancerdreamless sleep pots dispelled sucks :(
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21:03.35art3misif anyone here is using eepanels and has it working properly on each load would you be so kind as to dcc my the eepanels.lua from yer saved variables folder?
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21:03.59Kaeltenrandom disconnnects ftl
21:04.04Trancerheh
21:04.09ckknightI used to actually make comics, I only made about 30 of em, it took way too long to do each one
21:04.23Trancerback to php scripting
21:04.27Trancerwoohoo @ mvc model hax
21:05.21Kaeltenewe php
21:05.23Kaelten:P
21:05.28Mikmahttp://www.side-line.com/side-line_blog_comments.php?id=20100_0_45_0_C
21:05.28Mikmahttp://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=20102_0_2_0_C
21:05.40TrancerKaelten: oi! PHP <3 (when used for the right purpose ;))
21:06.09KaeltenLP
21:06.10Kaelten:P
21:08.34Trancerthey sell world of warcraft hoodies :S
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21:09.33ckknightI wish I had a tablet to actually draw with... using a mouse is pretty shoddy
21:09.39ckknighthow much do those go for nowadays?
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21:10.24SincerityHi all :) Anyone know if there is a mod which adds notes to friends list or / and ignore list?
21:10.26Trancerwowace shop says 40 dollar
21:10.36Sincerityhave looked but could not find anything.
21:10.44ckknighthttp://www.megamonalisa.com/artworks/megamonalisa_mona-lis-orc.jpg
21:11.15Trancer...
21:11.26Trancerno need to put it on.. she is an ORC anyway
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21:12.34ckknightit's actually speculated to be a self-portrait of Da Vinci in female form
21:12.46Tranceryeah, heh
21:12.58Trancerbut they speculated so much about that painting it makes you go bananas
21:13.13Trancernext they will say is that they never been on the moon, oh.. wait
21:15.15art3mishrm
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21:18.41cynyrwhen i do :new("AceDB-2.0", "etc,) can those be on new lines?
21:18.47ravagernllmao ckknight
21:19.00ckknightyes, cynyr
21:19.18cynyrckknight: okay good.. was going to be very hard to read otherwise
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21:28.08cynyrokay i now see why people like doing mods in ace. all of the hard bits are taken care of for you.
21:28.14cynyrlike the profiles
21:28.31trhcynyr: wait til you see AceDB and AceLocale =)
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21:28.51cynyrtrh: i'm using AceDB for the profiles.
21:29.06andremaranyone but me get tons and tons of errors about PRAT calling secure action ShapeshiftButton1:Show() or :Hide()?
21:29.23art3misi have a question
21:30.00cynyrart3mis: 42,, or a monkey
21:30.05nee-lapHm. My ag_UnitFrames are messed up after the latest update
21:30.26art3misif i select "with externals" does it just download the newest revisions of those libs or does it grab a seperate "compile" with the libs that were included/needed with that addon?
21:30.36nee-lapAh no, works again now
21:31.54Trancerhigh warlord kruul visits ironforg on turalyon-eu
21:31.59Trancerfancy amount of skellies so far
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21:32.49Stephmwnymbia: heya
21:32.49cynyrart3mis: with externals, using a per addon libs/ folder with a copy of each lib per addon
21:32.59nymbiaStephmw: hey :)
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21:33.26Stephmwnymbia: just to let you know, I haven't forgotten your great setup - but I'm gonna leave off tweaking things until I get back from holiday... and after TBC has cooled a little
21:33.38CIA-1703usz * r25159 10TooltipExchange/Modules/UI.lua:
21:33.38CIA-17TooltipExchange
21:33.38CIA-17- Added function to mine items in results pane via double clicking them
21:33.39cynyrart3mis: as in addon1 and addon2 both use libfoo, you get 2 copies and they replace each other on load
21:33.57nymbiaStephmw: sounds good to me
21:34.28art3misno i udnerstadn the concept of whatit means
21:34.35art3misim talking about lib versions
21:34.43cynyrokay 1 or more of may addons is taking a loooooonnnnngggg time to load
21:34.54Antiarc|HomeInstall Warmup
21:34.59art3misis it pulling a new lib for the embedded or is it grabbing a possible older lib
21:35.17cynyrart3mis: should be the newest that addon depends on..
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21:35.24art3misk
21:35.26cynyrAntiarc|Home: hmm
21:35.33cynyron the svn?
21:36.10cynyrart3mis: not entirly sure though
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21:38.40Kaeltenanyone know if squid 2.6 can only cache 1 subdomain if two of them are running off the same http server
21:39.18Benumbeddunno what version I was running (was 4 years ago) but then it could
21:39.32Kaeltenk
21:39.43nevcairielsquid is pretty dynamic, i am sure it can
21:39.45trhdoes anyone know how often the wowace.com/files page gets updated? :)
21:39.55snurre-argh, having issues trying to find a proper lvling spec for my lock
21:39.55nevcairieltrh: every 20 minutes
21:40.04nevcairieltrh: so again .. wait .. wait .. now!
21:40.37trhnevcairiel: uhm.. i imported my addon 40 minutes ago and it doesn't show up =)
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21:41.53nevcairielits running right now
21:41.57nevcairielmaybe it will appear then
21:42.02trhnevcairiel: k :)
21:42.12odtpostal as the only addon doesn't have dewdrop it seems, and some mod tried to load it
21:42.14trhnevcairiel: i'm just curious if the externals stuff worked :)
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21:44.23cynyrhas anyone thought of maybe moving the wowace svn to google code? it would seem they have a lot more bandwidth...
21:44.58Milesheh
21:45.04Milesgoogle = infinite resources
21:45.26RobTheDudei just saw a guy with a tonk tank, are they engineerables?
21:45.32Gngskyea
21:46.09trhcynyr: i guess the downside is that then every addon had to be licensed with a open source license
21:46.10EyeOfHellHello. Another noob question: As far as i understood from FAQ and other addon's, it's preferable to make a 'local' aliaces for an unique-gloabl-long names, for example: LEAF_ACTION_BARS = {}; local bars = LEAF_ACTION_BARS. As far as i understood, this speeds up loading (since locals are looked up faster) and makes code shorter and easier to read. Does i got it correctly? Is it a good practice due to specified reasons?
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21:47.21_neuron_trh, if that was done from the start I doubt people would have an issue with it
21:47.44cynyrtrh: ohh didn't know it had that restriction
21:47.47trh_neuron_: true, but as it wasnt done from the start there may be issues
21:47.50_neuron_yeah
21:48.16_neuron_but it still might be a good idea, it involves talking to all authors of course, but there's a lot of projects (big ones too) with one author
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21:48.32_neuron_and if you could move say.. 50-75% over to google code without issues, it'd take a lot of load off wowace.com
21:48.38Hobinheimwhat's the ace provision for hooking to onupdate?
21:48.56cynyr_neuron_: some could be moved there, the active ones should be easy to get ahold of the authors on.
21:49.00andremarckknight: cartographer would rock way more if I could zoom in on the map
21:49.11andremarright now I get alot of notes stickin together, and I cannot read individual notes :)
21:49.14_neuron_cynyr, exactly
21:49.33ckknightandremar: been thinking of adding that.
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21:50.58nymbiathe problem with google code is that there's no customization.  no svn to wiki toc parser, no lockdown of specific addons from public edits, no CIA, /files would be a pain in the ass and very slow to generate..
21:51.06StephmwROFL. The gamer survey blizz sent out can't take values larger than 24 months playing...
21:51.16cynyr_neuron_: is there anyway of making svn.wowace.com look at svn.google.com for certian mods, and use it's own loacl for others? so as to make it transperent to like WAU/etc
21:51.24trhStephmw: i guess they mean release server playtime =)
21:51.35_neuron_cynyr, think so yeah, can't remember though, haven't tinkered with svn stuff that advanced in a long time
21:51.51cynyrnymbia: the /files could be made from a loacl mirror of the google svn
21:52.00_neuron_nymbia, you could have wowace mirror from google code every X minutes, it's slower, but the site wouldn't go down when it happened
21:52.25|Kev|cynyr: isn't that how externals work
21:52.31|Kev|or whatever svn calls them
21:52.41jeffreydo females exist on freenode?
21:52.52|Kev|not the mirroring
21:53.00|Kev|the linking some things from other places
21:53.05_neuron_jeffrey, depends on your definition of female
21:53.19cynyr|Kev|: no clue.. i can do svn co SOMEURL NAME
21:53.30jeffreyi mean in the most general sense
21:53.37ravagernlpfff metahud cant even colour the healtharc based on class
21:53.41cynyrjeffrey: probably
21:53.43ravagernlsucky hud
21:53.44nymbiaat the moment, files takes about 5 minutes to generate, and does it every 20 minutes.  if the server has to do those lookups from google, it'll be generating zips 90% of the time.  and i reiterate:  we need CIA, we need post-commit hooks for the wiki script and for the google group.
21:53.59Aelieljeffrey: as in people who'll say "I'm female"? most of those are 45 yrs old overweight males
21:54.00Aeliel:p
21:54.24_neuron_nymbia, the zips wouldn't take longer to make... you just do svn up ; <sh script to run the damn files thing>
21:54.32jeffreylol no I mean females of the mammal species Homo sapien
21:54.39_neuron_yes it would take longer if a svn up from google would take more than 20 minutes, but I dont think it will
21:54.41cynyrnymbia: i wasn't thinking for dev.wowace.com, just svn.wowace.com
21:55.16cynyrnymbia: so all those scripts could use dev.wowace.com, and svn.wowace.com would basicly use svn.google.com
21:55.25Hobinheimonupdate, wowace, anyone?
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21:56.11cynyrisn't svn.wowace.com a list of mirrors anyways?
21:57.48Kaeltena round robin atm
21:59.23_icetrainwell, it should be quite easy to just svnsync dev.wowace.com to google every few minutes instead of having public mirrors and let them handle the load
21:59.50_icetrainand only 1 mirror = no revision sync problems between mirrors because one or more freaked out
22:00.06Kaelten_icetrain: our repo is too big for google's svn
22:00.12CIA-1703thrae * r25161 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- Added option to show message frame alerts in SCT, MSBT, Blizzard's Floating Combat Text, BigWigs, or disabled.
22:00.19_icetrainthey got a limit? :)
22:00.20cynyrKaelten: ohh
22:00.23|Kev|100meg
22:00.28Kaeltenbut things are going to be redone soon
22:00.28|Kev|what about sf.net?
22:00.40Kaeltendon't think they allow import, and I don't like sf.net anyway
22:00.45CIA-1703thrae * r25162 10VitalWatchOptions/ (VitalWatchOptions.lua VitalWatchOptionsLocale_enEN.lua): VitalWatchOptions -- Updated for VitalWatch.
22:00.52Matrix110Google only allows 100Megs omg Oo
22:01.00_icetrain:/
22:01.07Matrix110but for 1 email account you get like 2,4GB
22:01.07_icetrainwowace is 621mb atm
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22:01.15trhwww.berlios.de would be a alternative (its international, don't be scared by the domain :)
22:01.34EyeOfHellI think 15 mins is ok interval to re-ask a noob question? ;) Question: As far as i understood from FAQ and other addon's, it's preferable to make a 'local' aliaces for an unique-gloabl-long names, for example: LEAF_ACTION_BARS = {}; local bars = LEAF_ACTION_BARS. As far as i understood, this speeds up loading (since locals are looked up faster) and makes code shorter and easier to read. Does i got it correctly? Is it a good practice due to specified reasons?
22:01.38cynyrhmm with 2g of ram in the new box spec i saw.. a 700MB ram disk should be no problem
22:02.11_icetrainthe svn is the least of the boxes problems i think :)
22:02.29nymbiaEyeOfHell: do you need to define it globally at all?
22:02.33trhEyeOfHell: i'd say its good if you use that thing often
22:02.47Kaeltenhehe, ya we're doing a few things to make it easier in the future. :)
22:03.02CIA-1703Tristan * r25163 10ChatHighlighter/ChatHighlighter.lua:
22:03.02CIA-17ChatHighlighter:
22:03.02CIA-17- Made my gsub semi-case insensitive
22:03.03CIA-17- Added a reset option to clear all data and reset color
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22:03.25EyeOfHellnymbia: Sure thing, in case add-on is in multiple .lua files. And for big projects multiple .lua files are essential ;((
22:03.39_icetrain"Projects begin with a 100MB disk quota for downloadable files. If you hit these limits, please contact code-hosting@google.com to discuss the situation." :)
22:03.52_icetrainehm that was download files.. same for svn though
22:03.53nymbiaEyeOfHell: you can pass the table as a function arg instead of making it a global ;)
22:03.55EyeOfHellnymbia: or i'm wrong and i can access other file's local tables / variables ?
22:04.08_icetraini wonder what they would say =)
22:04.14Aelielpossibly idiotic question incoming... I use the dev/null/ mod. from its description on, for instance, wowinterface.com, I got the impression that the option to mute yells would mute -player- yells, but NPC yells would still be visible. this isn't the case. is it something that can be fixed, or is it an issue on Blizzard's part (ie inability to discriminate between player and npc yells)?
22:04.36trh_icetrain: they'd give you the space, that is only to protect from warez-trading
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22:04.58nymbiaAeliel: you can discriminate between player and NPC yells easily, they use different chat events.
22:05.44Aelielnymbia: ah, ok... in that case, should I report the fact that switching on the option to suppress player yells also suppresses NPC yells as a bug? :]
22:06.01cynyrWe're offering plenty of space for storing source code under revision control. We start new projects with a 100MB quota. That's enough to host the vast majority of open source projects. We're also willing to work with projects that need more space.
22:06.01EyeOfHellnymbia: passign as an arg will be kind of pain. For example, i have a 'core' module, 'WndCfg' module for settings UI and 'Cfg' module for saving/loading profiles. 'Core' module will be constantly accessing 'WndCfg' and 'Cfg'. And 'WndCfg' will be constantly accessing 'Core'. Isn't it easy to create just 3 globals with suitable long names and do local aliaces for the reasons i have mentioned in my question? (note: i'm noob in add-on writing currently ;)
22:06.15cynyrfrom google....
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22:07.20nymbiaAeliel: most likely it's intended, as you'd need to specifically suppress the monster yell event.  so, more likely you'd be requesting a feature to allow them through. ;)
22:07.47nymbiaEyeOfHell: yeah, that'll work fine :)
22:07.52Aelielnymbia: ah right, that makes sense :)
22:08.04AelielI must be the only weirdo who actually -likes- hearing Onyxia yell now and then in SW :p
22:08.21nymbiahaha
22:08.35PogoTribalis the latest ag_UF revision bug free?
22:08.46EyeOfHellnymbia: as i can see, you are experienced with LUA and wow add-ons? ;)
22:08.50Aelielor seeing 15++ lines of "Your own strength feeds me, [name]!" now that Kruul is around :D
22:08.54nymbiamonster yells are important to see a lot of the time, ie boss fights and stuff.  i dont see why you'd squelch them by default
22:08.54ThraePogoTribal: Not many addons are bug-free ;)
22:09.02nymbiaEyeOfHell: a little ;)
22:09.06ThraeAeliel: I use WitchHunt myself
22:09.12_neuron_PogoTribal, r25103 works pretty well for me
22:09.36_neuron_thought I had a bug with it earlier today, couldn't get it to show a friend of mine in the party frame, he couldn't get it to show me either.
22:09.44_neuron_2 seconds later we realize we're not grouped
22:09.46PogoTribalThrae: Of course not, but I was wondering if the latest revision fixes the castbar filling up party and raid frames, as well as generally being bug free, including the taint in the pet bar.
22:09.49break19_neuron_: lol
22:10.04PogoTribalneuron: I said bug-free, not noob-free  :)
22:10.06EyeOfHellnymbia: If it's not very boring to you, i have another noob question ;(. I feel it's required for me to understood some basic concepts before writing megabytes of crappy code ^_^:
22:10.09_neuron_PogoTribal, ;)
22:10.18nymbiaEyeOfHell: ask away ;)
22:10.29Hockanyone interested in buying my 360?
22:10.39art3misokay dumb question time
22:10.43ThraeHock: I'll give you $50
22:10.50Hockuh
22:10.53bakkoda45
22:10.55Hocknty. :)
22:10.57_neuron_PogoTribal, had a revision a bit earlier where I had to hide the party an group frames or it'd show those nasty lines ;)
22:10.57break19PogoTribal: my main gripe is.. half the time when I log in, I'm showing little black bars all over my screen.. seems like all the frames are trying to show, even when I'm not in a group/raid...
22:10.57PogoTribal30!
22:11.02Thrae$25!
22:11.02bakkoda... 29
22:11.02Hockhttp://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/ele/262589382.html
22:11.07art3misif i create a DB and in it have a field named things and a subfield anmed blah
22:11.17art3misin ordr to callt aht i need to use things.blah right?
22:11.27art3misand if i use thing.blah it wont load?
22:11.30ThraeHock: Well, that's how much a 360 is worth to me ;)
22:11.35break19PogoTribal: yet, hiding them and unhiding fixed it.. until I exit wow.. :p
22:11.41PogoTribalbreak19/neuron: Yeah that seems to be a new revision bug. I guess I'll hold off, as I can still see health text even if castbars are filling the party/raid frames.
22:11.54_neuron_PogoTribal, I didn't have that problem with the rev I'm running now though
22:12.03break19PogoTribal: thats not a bug.. you have "Extend statusbars" checked
22:12.09_neuron_just the previus ones (which is why I immediatly thought ag_uf bug when I couldn't see him in party ;)
22:12.45PogoTribalbreak19: Extend Statusbars is for health/mana bars, I'm talking about a castbar filling the frame.
22:12.50cynyrAntiarc|Home: hmm all my mods load after warmup...
22:13.11Thraecynyr: Warmup works for me on Windows
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22:13.24EyeOfHellnymbia: So, as far as i understood, it's better to create functions as a members of some 'object' table (just like C++ classes and methods). Such functions are function obj:MyFunc(). Inside this function i have 2 ways to access object this function is called from: 1. By it's name (that is a short local aliance). For eaxample: function obj:Func(i_nSize) obj.m_nSize = i_nSize; end   2. By 'self' that is passed using ':' (CONTINUED)
22:13.26nymbiastuff loads before it on mac/linux
22:13.40art3misnymbia: if i name a DB and the main field is things[] and a subfield is blah. if i make a call in the lua i'd need to index things.blah i couldnt use thing.blah could i?
22:14.06break19nymbia: easy fix.. make the folder name have a space in the front :)
22:14.33ThraeHe's a bisexual pedo!
22:14.33cynyrThrae: it gives stats, just gets laoded last...
22:14.34Thrae...oops, wrong channel
22:14.41break19rofl
22:14.47nymbiaart3mis: that should work fine
22:14.53break19Thrae: I do NOT wanna know...
22:14.59art3misusing thing.blah?
22:15.08nymbiaart3mis: things["blah"] == things.blah
22:15.10cynyrbreak19: hmm i'll try that
22:15.25art3misthat lokos like the eepanels problem
22:15.26EyeOfHell(CONTINUE) But self ha a problem: if i set such function as a WoW API callback, 'self' will be set to a button or frame function is called for. So if i want to use 'self', i'm cursed to sets callbacks as SetScript('OnClick', function(button) obj.OnClick(obj, button) end);. What will be good for my code? 1? 2? or something else ?
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22:15.50art3mishe calls everything panel.value but in the DB it's panels.value
22:16.12art3miswithout defining it as thigns = thing
22:16.58art3misoh well im gonna go nap before i scream loudly at this being broken
22:17.59EyeOfHellnymbia: so, any suggestions what to do? ;)
22:18.19ZealotOnAStickart3mis - if you change it locally on your copy, does it fix it?
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22:19.09nymbiaEyeOfHell: if the object in question is always the same, you could also store a reference to it, then use that reference in place of self.  as far as which will be most efficient?  i'm not sure.  depends on the context, i think -- but for now, just go with the method you're most comfortable with.
22:20.31PogoTribalsigh, time to update DKP *cries*
22:20.39ckknightoh man, drawing hair on this Orc is gonna be a bitch...
22:20.50ckknightwhat's a cool Orc hairstyle?
22:20.50PogoTribalPostal is interfering with CTMailMod
22:20.59PogoTribalckknight: bald with ponytail
22:21.07EyeOfHellnymbia: of course i'm most comfortable with short aliace that is 'local' for lua file. But i'm not sure other LUA programmer will be happy to see obj.m_nID instead of self.m_nID ;)). As far as i understood, using 'self' is a common practice. But the callbacks problem is a pain ;(
22:21.08ckknightsounds good and easy
22:21.15WogroiplPogoTribal: they both do the same thing
22:21.15ckknightwhat color? I'm thinking a deep red
22:21.19PogoTribalckknight: Lemme link you a SS of my orc
22:21.23ckknightokay
22:21.27ckknightEyeOfHell: it's Lua, not LUA
22:21.36PogoTribalhttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7867/hunteronamission6dr.jpg
22:21.50EyeOfHellckknight: is it really any difference? ;))
22:21.55ckknightdamn, tusks.
22:22.14ThraeLUA stands for Lua Understands Acronyms
22:22.34break19recursive acronyms = tehwaycool
22:22.35break19heh
22:22.42nymbiaEyeOfHell: i agree.  you're saving more headache in the long run, so i'd say use obj.m_nID
22:22.43EyeOfHellThrae: lol ;))
22:22.45cynyrlol like "Wine is not emulation"
22:23.00PogoTribalhttp://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5355/skornofthehorde1aj.jpg  No hair shot here, but I think it's a great shot.
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22:23.05break19exactly. :)
22:23.13EyeOfHellnymbia: thanks for advice ;). I feel more comfortable now transmuting my already-100-kilobytes code ;))
22:23.40nymbiaEyeOfHell: :)
22:23.45PogoTribalckknight: I like the ponytail because it looks cool while running, it kind of flops back and forth.
22:24.08PogoTribalAnd when you do a hearth cast it looks like you're in a 100-mph windstorm.
22:24.16ckknightEyeOfHell: yes, LUA looks like an acronym, which it isn't.
22:24.33ThraeLua is a word, I think African?
22:24.51ckknightit's in a few languages
22:24.56ckknightin Hawaiian, it means Toilet
22:25.07EyeOfHellnymbia: it's always a problem for a professional programmer to 'write some script stuff fast'. For many years we are forced to create writing notations, design and usage patterns... And it's really hard to stop while learning new script language ;).
22:25.25nymbiaEyeOfHell: lol, yeah ;)
22:26.14EyeOfHellbut i think i will do it fast ;). Ok, gone to code, brb sometime with another stupid noob question. Thanks for help and best of luck to you!
22:26.49break19hey, who wrote clock_fu ?
22:26.55ckknightI did
22:27.01break19ah. k
22:27.18break19<- is in a quandary
22:27.27nymbiasounds unpleasant
22:27.51break19I have an addon that replaced bliz's minimap day/night icon, with it's own.. but, if I dont have it showing.... but I like my clock in the title bar.. lol
22:28.01Wogroipl~seen dafire
22:28.37purldafire <n=dafire@dslb-082-083-056-029.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 9s ago, saying: 'you still need the account upgrade page ;)'.
22:28.50break19ckknight: you ever heard of GroupCalendar ?
22:29.08ckknightyes, doesn't belong in ClockFu
22:29.33break19no.. not saying it does..
22:29.36Feldiaanyone noticed ag_uf layouts breaking since the castbars were added?
22:29.45PogoTribalGod, CT_RaidTracker is a piece of crap
22:29.45break19i was just saying "which do I wanna use" heh
22:29.59bakkodai threw all my ct stuff out the window
22:30.16Feldiaproblem with that bakkoda, there isn't an alternative to ct_raidtracker
22:30.29Feldiaits' either use the mod or input everything manually
22:30.34Feldiawhich no one wants to do, trust me :P
22:30.46bakkodai havent raided since and dont plan on it for a long time. burnt right out on raiding
22:31.35break19ck, I still havent managed to figure out which of my addons is causing cartographer to reset to the current zone...
22:32.35Thraebreak19: Atlas maybe.
22:32.43break19not running atlas.
22:32.55ThraeAny other map mods? MetaMap, et. all?
22:33.03Kaeltenwhere can I find documentation of setting inet interfaces?
22:33.13break19nope. and just disabled my gatherer to see if that was it... still doing it.
22:33.13ThraeClosetGnome_Zone? BigWigs enabled?
22:33.22grennonman ifconfig?
22:33.24cynyrgrrr this warmup thing is making me mad.. it won't load first.. and yes i know i could go add it to the op deps of like 35 addons...
22:33.47nymbiacynyr: add it to the optdeps of the very first addon that loads.
22:33.47axxoifconfig is oldskool, l2ip
22:33.58ThraeWHy are you using Gatherer if you have Cartographer_Import?
22:34.03Finman ifconfig?
22:34.06Finoh
22:34.13cynyrnymbia: doh!
22:34.31break19Thrae: the only thing I can think of, is FactionsFU, and I use it's auto-watch feature.
22:34.50ThraeGatherer suxx0rs
22:34.57CIA-1703athou * r25164 10ArenaMaster/ (ArenaMaster.toc Core.lua):
22:34.57CIA-17ArenaMaster:
22:34.57CIA-17- TOC update again
22:35.06Stephmwaxxo: what's the up-to-date util of your choice then?
22:35.10Thraebreak19: Worth a shot.
22:35.11CIA-1703athou * r25165 10EnchantList/EnchantList.toc:
22:35.11CIA-17EnchantList:
22:35.11CIA-17- TOC update again
22:35.14break19Thrae: I *just* installed import and disabled gatherer :p
22:35.26break19whatcha doin, hackin my system or somethin? lol
22:35.29CIA-1703athou * r25166 10MultiTips/MultiTips.toc:
22:35.29CIA-17MultiTips:
22:35.29CIA-17- TOC update again
22:35.40evlWhat's the easiest way to detect if a unit is a player or an NPC?
22:35.40axxoStephmw: ip from iptools2
22:35.48Thraebreak19: You'll need Gatherer enabled to do the initial Import, then you can get rid of it
22:35.56axxoStephmw: err iproute2 :p
22:36.10Stephmwaxxo: didn't realise ip could bring an iface up/down - I'll read up some more
22:36.41axxoStephmw: its alot nicer to use then ifconfig, but ifconfig is more universal
22:37.00ThraeStephmw: Many distros have the ifup / ifdown scripts.
22:37.21cynyraxxo: too bad they doens't accept the same syntax for right now..
22:37.27cynyrip that is
22:37.31axxocynyr: thats kinda the whole point ...
22:37.41cynyraxxo: yea.. but that means i have to learn
22:37.44cynyr:P
22:37.49axxono you don't, use ifconfig.
22:37.50CIA-1703miles * r25167 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames - Quickfix #3 for aura update change: forgot to redo the highlighting, fixed.
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22:39.03Stephmwaxxo: what would be fantastic would be a port of the syntax pf uses (in *bsd) to linux
22:39.26Stephmwaxxo: iptables is easy to create bad rules
22:39.27nymbiaUnitIsPlayer()
22:39.33axxoStephmw: the packet filtering follows a complete diffrend design
22:39.38axxoStephmw: so not possible
22:39.56Klazarhey where do i post closet gnome bugbag grabs ?
22:40.01Stephmwaxxo: otherwise it would have been done already, I know ;)
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22:40.26nymbiaevl: UnitIsPlayer()
22:40.46axxoStephmw: go port pf :P
22:40.47ThraeOr the ever-vigilant UnitIsUnit
22:41.08nymbiaThrae: how so?
22:41.25Thraenymbia: UnitIsUnit(unitId, "player")
22:41.39Stephmwaxxo: I'd rather pay someone else to do it tbh, that level of coding isn't something I enjoy doing
22:41.44ThraeUnitIsPlayer would need a unitId anyway
22:42.00cynyrnymbia: nope.. is there a way to make it required?
22:42.02nymbiaThrae: UnitIsPlayer returns true for units controlled by a human, not units that are the player
22:42.05Klazar2007/01/14 17:38:42-205-x1]: ClosetGnome_OhNoes-1\ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua:106: attempt to call method 'ProcessDeequipQueue' (a nil value)
22:42.06Elkanodoesn't check UnitIsPlayer(unit) for PCs?
22:42.11ckknightwhat's an image site that lets you upload svgs?
22:42.18Thraenymbia: That's UnitIsPlayerControlled
22:42.29ThraeOh wait
22:42.38ThraeNo you're right, UnitIsPlayer checks if it's a PC
22:42.56ThraeUnitIsPlayerControlled is for PCs + Player Pets
22:43.20nymbiaUnitIsPlayerControlled would be.... the same, but include pets and mind-controlled stuff, i guess?
22:43.28evlHmms
22:43.33evlI can't get that working in BGs
22:43.35break19Thrae: once I do that... is it imported automatically?
22:43.47break19sorry for the last response, wife walked in, with groceries :)
22:43.48evlI need to check if the person I killed gotten from CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH is a player controller char
22:43.50Thraebreak19: Never used it myself
22:43.51nymbiacynyr: sure
22:43.53break19s/last/late
22:44.05cynyrnymbia: how?
22:44.29nymbiacynyr: ## Dependencies:
22:44.39Stephmwaxxo: interesting... pf4lin
22:44.40cynyrnymbia: thanks
22:44.42DrZoottbc release is the 16th isnt it?
22:44.47Thraeevl: You can't do that
22:44.57ThraeDrZoot: Yep, unless it's pushed back
22:44.58evlCrap
22:45.05evlAny other way to detect it then
22:45.09Stephmwaxxo: version 0.0.1 ... not sure I'd want to test it that early
22:45.22evlCause if I run UnitIsPlayer on a X-bg name it returns invalid unit token
22:45.37Thraeevl: Save a list of target names which you do UnitIsPlayer and UnitIsHostile on
22:45.37axxoStephmw: yeah, one of those projects that doesn't get anywhere i bet
22:45.58evlThrae: then it won't work if I AOE peopel
22:46.01Thraeevl: You'd populate it with names collected from target, raid1target, etc.
22:46.09cynyraxxo: pf4lin?
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22:46.34Thraeevl: Sorry, that's your best bet. Normally CHAT_MSG are filtered by players and non-players, but not that particular event.
22:46.48cynyrdo addons load iin parallel?
22:47.04Thraeevl: Ah wait, lemme check something...
22:47.15Thraecynyr: No, linearly.
22:47.40cynyrThrae: kk
22:48.51evlThrae: I'm trying to count killing blows but it keeps triggering off NPC's and neutral creeps
22:49.39axxoi have an addon that announces killing blows, always accurate, its either honorfu/capping or bgfu, go steal some code
22:50.15Milestry getting a player list of the bg and compare the blabla dies message name with it
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22:51.23Thraeevl: You might be able to do it looping over name = GetBattlefieldScore(index), where you call RequestBattlefieldScore(), and loop for GetNumBattlefieldScores(). Use string.find instead of == for checking the name.
22:51.37Thraes/call/call first/
22:51.39evlnice, I'll try that
22:51.54evlhow fast GetBattlefieldScore(index) be populated, the moment you join?
22:51.56Thraeevl: Note there's two FuBar addons which already do this
22:52.07Thraeevl: That's what RequestBattlefieldScore is for.
22:52.22Milesafter request, you have to wait a while for an event to fire
22:52.34ThraeOh yeah, forgot about that
22:52.57Milesbut as players don't leave / enter all the time, you can just use the client side cached data
22:53.00evlAlright, that would make it bork if someone leaves/joins the bg
22:53.05evlexactly :)
22:53.07ThraeRequestBattlefieldScoreData(), then wait for UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_SCORE
22:53.24ThraeTrue again
22:53.39snurre-anyone know how to change the colours of elkbuffbars?
22:53.41snurre--s
22:53.51break19ckknight: so has import been updated to use the new gatherer's database? I hope so.. gatherer is beginning to annoy me lol
22:54.10ckknightno, and stop bothering me, I'm busy
22:54.22ckknightif you want to, you can update tit
22:54.23ckknightit*
22:54.30break19uh oh.. he's in one of moods again.. chill.. was a simple question
22:56.02[dRaCo]is purl an eggdrop?
22:56.31Kaeltenpurl, what are you
22:56.40purlI am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot>
22:56.40Kaeltendamn didn't work
22:56.41Kaeltenlol
22:56.42break19no.. its a modified info bot
22:56.47Kaeltenthere it is
22:56.52nymbia~blootbot
22:56.54purli guess blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot
22:57.12[dRaCo]hm, aight... since I love that s/ script
22:58.09Fisker-Is the server getting hammered again?
22:58.32KaeltenFisker-: not very bad
22:58.36Kaeltenis it getting slow again?
22:58.43[dRaCo]yeah
22:58.48[dRaCo]well, let's say
22:58.48Fisker-yup
22:58.52[dRaCo]it
22:58.59[dRaCo]it's been faster before ;)
22:59.08Thrae[dRaCo]: Your existentialism is profound.
22:59.38Kaeltenhrm, main page in 3 secs
22:59.48[dRaCo]I do what I can.
23:00.25Thrae<@Kaelten> I'm looking at the server and I can ping it in <1ms, so I don't see what's the problem!
23:00.29Fin~stats
23:00.30purlSince Mon Jan  8 04:50:05 2007, there have been 157 modifications, 873 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 665 commands.  I have been awake for 6d 18h 10m 24s this session, and currently reference 112382 factoids.  I'm using about 18876 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 26870.35/1740.19 child 0.04/0.01
23:00.37Thrae(Yes, I know he doesn't host it :D)
23:00.58[dRaCo]43x ms here
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23:01.02Matrix110purl you moron !
23:01.10[dRaCo]which is pretty fine.
23:02.39CIA-1703nymbia * r25168 10Manufac/ (GPLv2.txt Manufac.lua Manufac.toc): Manufac: Add license. Also added RelSite-Curse number to toc, I wonder if these work yet..
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23:04.42PogoTribalvodka!
23:04.47PogoTribalshit, wrong IRC channel
23:04.51nymbialol
23:04.54[dRaCo]great choice anyway.
23:05.06trhreal pirates drink grog! ;)
23:05.07bakkodapogo has irc disease
23:05.54nymbiahmm.. i dont think the RelSite-Curse field can even be done with just a number anymore.  that's kinda silly.
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23:06.44nymbiahttp://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4957/manufac/ is the link to the addon, but shaving off the last part gets you a big fat 404. it shouldnt =\
23:08.39cynyrnymbia: hmm adding it to the deps of the first addon in the list of ones that loaded before warmup didn't work...
23:09.08nymbiacynyr: just start throwing it in the optdeps of a handful of addons ;)
23:09.42kagaro|lunchanyone know if eepanels is working correctly?
23:09.56CIA-1703nymbia * r25169 10Manufac/Manufac.toc: Manufac: Removed RelSite-Curse, not so much on the working.
23:10.09MeSSiaHeepanels working fine for me
23:10.22cynyrnymbia: hmm i'll try that here in a bit
23:10.33kagaro|lunchi get lots of frame lag with them active
23:11.03MeSSiaHtry clearing your sv? and using the latest version?
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23:12.04kagarogona do that now
23:13.08bakkodai cant seem to get eepanels to save info after a relog
23:13.48MeSSiaHyou try setting it up and doing a reloadui?
23:14.01bakkodano i did not :(
23:14.33CIA-1703nymbia * r25170 10Manufac/ (Manufac-Defaults.lua Manufac-FuBar.lua): Manufac: Add a couple license-related lines in smaller source files. (i really need to clean this sucker's code up one of these days..)
23:14.33bakkodai was makin textures at the same time and removed the addon in frustration lol
23:14.33MeSSiaHtry that instead.. i think just exiting wow has issues sometimes
23:14.39MeSSiaHlol
23:14.59bakkodacool ill give that a shot
23:15.05MeSSiaH:)
23:16.11Fisker-We're up to 3 rogues rerolling now :P
23:17.02MeSSiaHouch
23:17.12MeSSiaH3 warriors over here lol
23:17.42bakkodawe lost 4 priests 3 druids and our MT
23:18.00phyber~seen mjc
23:18.24purlmjc <n=mjc@c-71-206-92-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 18h 30m 55s ago, saying: 'only if your allocation rate doubles in a certain time period'.
23:18.24Stephmwunless they delete the chars, there'a always hope
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23:18.37MeSSiaHluckily our mt is the gm lol
23:18.55[dRaCo]you got a gm as mt?
23:19.00MeSSiaHyep
23:19.05[dRaCo]nice
23:19.06MeSSiaHnot gm gm
23:19.08MeSSiaHlol
23:19.09bakkodai think we all decided to just go our seperate ways after almost 14 months of playin togather
23:19.28[dRaCo]yeah, already figured ;)
23:19.53bakkodame being one of the druids lol
23:20.20MeSSiaHrerolling to pally i assume :p
23:20.38bakkodanever
23:20.39bakkoda:P
23:20.44MeSSiaHlies lol
23:20.50bakkodadruids 4 life
23:20.53MeSSiaHhehe
23:20.54CIA-1703nymbia * r25171 10GrindStatus/ (12 files in 2 dirs): GrindStatus: Add RelSite-WoWI and license.
23:21.07MeSSiaHmy first toon was a druid till 30 but got bored and rerolled lock
23:21.17MeSSiaHlong long long time ago
23:21.18bakkodai love to heal. not sure why but i do
23:21.41bakkodaand i love going feral for a few months here and there as well
23:21.42MeSSiaHkeeps you awake playing smack'a'mole
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23:22.14MeSSiaHyea feral is going to be nice in a couple days
23:22.33bakkodayup i got all my talent pts waitin
23:22.42bakkodaall my bwl leather equipped
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23:26.08CIA-1703docbru * r25172 10GuildMap/ (49 files in 3 dirs):
23:26.08CIA-17GuildMap: initial commit
23:26.09CIA-17- GuildMap shows guild members with the addon on the world and minimap
23:27.33*** join/#wowace DocBru (n=DocBru@p3EE0242D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
23:27.47CIA-1703nymbia * r25173 10MobMitigation/ (GPLv2.txt MobMitigation.lua MobMitigation.toc): MobMitigation: toc -> 20003. Add license.
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23:30.34quantikI have a little problem with cartographer
23:30.54quantikit does not allow me to see part of the map other than the one I'm in..
23:31.03quantikanyone else has this prob?
23:31.14[dRaCo]works fine for me
23:31.34CIA-1703antiarc * r25174 10Sanity2/ (4 files): Sanity2: Added an option to prevent armor types from being a category subdivision. Makes Sanity's display a bit less fragmented and more usable.
23:31.51CIA-1703docbru * r25175 10GuildMap/:
23:31.51CIA-17GuildMap:
23:31.51CIA-17- Added Externals
23:31.55quantikwhich version is it plz?
23:32.21Funkeh`nn folks
23:32.41CIA-1703docbru * r25176 10GuildMap/GuildMap.toc:
23:32.41CIA-17GuildMap:
23:32.41CIA-17- Revision Keyword Substitution
23:32.45[dRaCo]yesterday, 1400
23:32.56[dRaCo]just updated, so I cant tell the revision anymore
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23:33.44quantikstrange
23:33.59quantikit show the other region for half a secod then goes back
23:34.15[dRaCo]now that's weird.
23:34.31quantiki've got the french client, maybe thats it..
23:34.53quantikwait no, wotked fine before 2.0.3
23:35.10[dRaCo]2.0.3 screwed a lotta things
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23:36.32quantikok thanks, good night
23:37.00ckknightwhat Troll class goes with an Orc Shaman, a Tauren Hunter, Undead Warlock, and BE Paladin?
23:37.11trhckknight: forum?
23:37.18[dRaCo]nothing, wouldnt play with a paladin ;þ
23:37.37ckknightI'm just talking lore-wise, really, I may be making a comic strip.
23:37.43trhckknight: a forum-troll :P
23:37.51ckknightdon't be like that.
23:37.56[dRaCo]but I guess the logical choice would be warrior or priest
23:37.57trhckknight: a warrior prolly
23:38.03ckknighthrm, yea, that'd work
23:38.04[dRaCo]would be a complete party then
23:39.14ckknightI've already drawn the Orc and Warrior
23:39.17ckknightOrc and Tauren*
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23:39.51[dRaCo]the tauren needs biiiig shoulder pads.
23:39.56cynyrokay who is the dev that adds the cairage return (^M) to the end of every line?
23:39.59[dRaCo]like t2 warrior
23:40.21cynyr:P
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23:40.52Anduneguildmap:  I assume everyone in guild has to run in order for it to work?
23:41.11ckknight[dRaCo]: it's just sketches :-P
23:41.16ckknightnot worried about what they're wearing
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23:41.57[dRaCo]so you draw nude tauren?
23:42.05[dRaCo]that's...
23:42.11[dRaCo]gross :þ
23:42.23XandIs anyone from the AG unitframe team here?
23:42.43Trancerprobly sleeping
23:42.58CIA-1703nymbia * r25177 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (11 files in 8 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: some improvements to the dataminer and include the full license text (with the standalone only).
23:43.02nymbiano sleep for the ag` !
23:43.07Trancerhehehe
23:43.23restoredwas the partyframe bugg fixed ?
23:43.25ckknight[dRaCo]: no, standard lvl 1 Tauren, really
23:43.31CIA-1703karlthepagan * r25178 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):
23:43.31CIA-17Grouper:
23:43.31CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:43.31CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:43.41[dRaCo]ic, was j/k anyway ;)
23:44.09restoredwill try the lastest build. see if it disappears.
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23:44.52trhit's a pity that there are no new loltroll & dork adventures =)
23:46.20cynyrckknight: what editor do you use for lua?
23:46.34CIA-1703sayclub * r25179 10Postal/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Postal: - Update locals koKR
23:46.42ckknightcynyr: TextMate
23:46.52cynyrckknight: okay
23:48.11cynyrit seems that it puts the "carrage return" char at the end of every line.. :(
23:49.00CIA-1703nymbia * r25180 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0.toc: PeriodicTable-3.0: Can't go wrong with an X-AceForum entry!
23:50.00DocBru@andune: yes
23:50.06CIA-1703nymbia * r25181 10PT2Browser/ (GPLv2.txt PT2Browser.lua PT2Browser.toc): PT2Browser: License.
23:51.39LePeR|Jauniaanyone know if flexbar2 works?
23:51.41EyeOfHellHello again, and another stupid question ;). Is it any order that WoW loads and parse LUA files? for example, if a.lua contains: obja = {}; local b = objb; and lua.b contains: objb = {}; local a = obja; <-- seems this will work incorrectly. Any hints?
23:51.45ckknightand done with the troll
23:52.08nymbiaEyeOfHell: they load in the order you have 'em in your toc
23:52.25ckknightwhat'd be better, Undead Warlock or Undead Priest?
23:52.37Mikmaes
23:52.43[dRaCo]locks are better for rp
23:52.45nymbiathe warlock would win, if that's the question ;)
23:52.46[dRaCo]imo
23:52.46Mikmas/es/yes/
23:53.00ckknightI suppose
23:53.01CIA-1703nymbia * r25182 10PT3Browser/ (GPLv2.txt PT3Browser.lua PT3Browser.toc): PT3Browser: License
23:53.14EyeOfHellnymbia: so, in order to use a bunch of cross-referenced global objects (divided into files for easy of code & edit) i need to include first sometink like declarations.lua and declare obja = {}; objb = {} ?
23:53.19ckknightnow to find a good picture...
23:53.22LePeR|Jauniawell depends if you want to heal in endgame or not
23:53.55trhanyone got a good png2blp converter in which the texture doesn't turn up green in the addon? :(
23:54.15nymbiaEyeOfHell: no, just dont try to load something first if it needs something in second file. if it does, then you've gotta wait til that second file is loaded before trying to use that variable.
23:54.46Thorgardtrh, use .tga ?
23:55.37Andunedocbru: ok thx.
23:55.38CIA-1703nymbia * r25183 10Sniff/ (Sniff.lua Sniff.toc): Sniff: License
23:55.55cynyri don't need !!!StandaAloneLibs do I?
23:56.17nymbiacynyr: nope
23:56.17CIA-1703nymbia * r25184 10Sniff/GPLv2.txt: Sniff: Missed the 'Add' button..
23:56.20EyeOfHellwarlock: 5 man: fun but not needed; raids: normal but limited need; pvp: good; solo: very good. Priest: 5 man and raids: boring and not fun at all but is highly required. pvp: good; solo: bad
23:56.54[dRaCo]there are people that enjoy healing :þ
23:56.57ckknightmy general idea is that they're people playing WoW, so it's real people with real lives, who happen to be playing WoW
23:57.03ckknightunlike other comics where it's full RP
23:57.24cynyrnymbia: thats what i was thinking.. it's taking close to 2 seonds to load according to warmup
23:57.51EyeOfHellI have both druid and priest, both 60, both in high-end raiding guild. I'm an officer also. Healing in raids IS boring unless you are on Imperors or Loatheb ;(
23:57.58xlviido hunter pets have increased stealth detection now?
23:58.11CIA-1703nymbia * r25185 10SpellBinder/ (GPLv2.txt SpellBinder.lua SpellBinder.toc): SpellBinder: License
23:58.34xlviibecause i just vanished when fighting a hunter, i didn't have serpent sting on me, so there was no way for him to find me, apart from using a flare or getting to cloth, both of which neither happened.
23:58.36cynyrxlvii: umm they have always been bugged when it comes to stealth..
23:58.44xlviiyet his pet follows me around forever..
23:58.45xlvii>_>
23:58.56EyeOfHellFor example, i will not change my druid for a warlock, but i will gladly change my priest for a warlock (i have warlock too, but he is just lvl 40 :)
23:59.02cynyrxlvii: yep thats the bug.. if you are on a pets aggro list you are there till it dies
23:59.13CIA-1703docbru * r25186 10GuildMap/GuildMap.toc:
23:59.13CIA-17GuildMap:
23:59.13CIA-17- Revision string fix
23:59.20xlviiwtb nerf.
23:59.20xlvii>_>
23:59.50EyeOfHellxllvii: it's known feature, if pet have you in target, he will not use this target if you stealth. He will run and attack you ;)

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