irclog2html for #wowace on 20070112

00:00.07trhcynyr: do u know a other programming language?
00:00.20|Kev|I think you can attach them to an issue
00:00.23|Kev|or you can mail them to me :)
00:00.29cynyrtrh: programming no not yet.. scripting, i'm okay in bash
00:00.30VanishIs your email listed there?
00:00.38Fincynyr: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Beginners_Guide is a good place to start
00:00.39Kadish_I dunno if this is of any use, but i just wrote an Ace2 auto updater for windows
00:00.47Kadish_if anyone wants to play with it, let me know
00:00.51VanishI suppose I ould commit to the SVN too...
00:00.59|Kev|should be an alias listed there, shall PM my main addy
00:01.06FinKadish_: I'd like to play with it
00:01.23Finin a purely nonsexual way
00:01.27TiberianAnd another thing, FuBars don't "save" the FuAddons Locations (in the bar i mean) eh.. any logical expl? :]
00:01.32Kadish_hehe
00:01.36trhcynyr: the link from fin is a good start
00:01.42Adirelle[Ammo] that cave in wetlands is wonderfull to go from 80 to 125 mining :)
00:01.58Darkwytchcan someone help me please =[[
00:02.10KirkburnIs there a mirror I can point my WAU to? :)
00:02.10Prophthanks Tiberian
00:02.15Tiberiannp
00:02.38|Kev|Vanish: and yeah, I can give other people SVN access once it's a little more stable
00:02.41cynyrFin: trh: thanks
00:03.50trhcynyr: to learn lua: http://www.lua.org/pil/
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00:04.04trhcynyr: but keep in mind that the wow lua interpreter does not support everything
00:04.17cynyrtrh: thanks, i've got nothing better to do till BC comes out.. and for a bit after that
00:04.36cynyrtrh: it supports all the simple stuff?
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00:04.51trhcynyr: the wow lua interpreter supports the language itself
00:05.07KirkburnWAU, why do you hate me so :( I only wish to play a little beta!
00:05.10trhcynyr: but not so much library functions (i.e. you cant write/read files from the harddisk)
00:05.25Vanish|Kev|: Well, with some luck I shoud have time later tonight to crank out a full set of icons for it
00:05.34trhcynyr: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p download that thing to extrac the blizzard ui files
00:05.42cynyrtrh: ahh kk, so lua is kindda like java in the fact that is tured into bytecode at runtime?
00:05.45VanishLOL!
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00:05.58|Kev|Vanish: that would be fantastic
00:06.02trhcynyr: in that matter, yes
00:06.12|Kev|there's also now an uninstall button as well as install ;)
00:06.14trhcynyr: but its still a bit different
00:06.31cynyrtrh: okay, does it support objects/classes?
00:06.54trhcynyr: only in a very limited way, but ace2 adds some kind of support for objects/classes
00:07.04trh(that's why everone loves it :)
00:07.17cynyrtrh: ahh kk, thanks i'm off to read alot
00:07.20WogroiplI get an error when opening Arkinventory about a completely different addon :(
00:07.21trhhf ^^
00:08.04VanishWogroipl: Tell the other ico to stop behaving badly with AI's stuff. ;P
00:08.14Vanishs/ico/addon
00:08.22Wogroiplhehe I wish I could :/
00:09.08Wogroiplhttp://ace.pastey.net/4924 is the error I get in Bugsack
00:09.49VanishKaelten: Ping
00:11.26stavmari am using Prat and when i queue up for a BG my font in teh chat windows goes back to default, anyone know hwy?
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00:11.41VanishClad: ping?
00:11.51cladhairepong
00:12.15VanishClad: could you email me the WoWAce logo since the page is gompers?
00:12.30nymbiagompers.. i like that word.
00:12.37cladhairei dont know where it is actually
00:12.46Melicia|Vashjhargibi: well, ok, Enabled the Prat AddOn, and did the job... but.. (as always there is a But).. i get a Sound ALL the time "Fatality!" (ye the one from Worms).. any idea how to fix this ? >_<
00:13.07hargibihmm
00:13.10nymbiaMelicia|Vashj: that sounds only when there's an error.
00:13.11stavmarI thought fatality was from bugsack?
00:13.13hargibii never have sounds on so i never god that :p
00:13.33hargibigot
00:13.36Melicia|Vashjahem ..
00:13.47Melicia|VashjOk, let me see the BugSack then
00:13.59Finit's BugSack reporting an error in another application
00:15.09Melicia|Vashjok, bugsack shows "7/27" xD
00:15.31Finclick it
00:15.33Melicia|VashjAt least, how do i turn the stupid sound off ? :P
00:15.42Goebdoes GotWood work for anyone right now?
00:15.42Finright click it
00:16.13CIA-1703fatherjim * r24709 10loudmouth/ (loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):
00:16.13CIA-17loudmouth:
00:16.13CIA-17- Loudmouth tabbed GUI
00:16.24CIA-1703gamefaq * r24710 10Baggins/Baggins-deDE.lua: Baggins: Updated deDE Local
00:16.53CIA-1703phyber * r24711 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua GroupFuLocals.lua):
00:16.53CIA-17FuBar_GroupFu:
00:16.53CIA-17- Lets fix this thing.
00:16.53CIA-17- More tidying coming.
00:16.56Melicia|Vashjlol, didnt see the mute ><
00:17.09hargibiBtw. is it just me or does the winaceupdater go slow? Cause my connection is unstable :p
00:17.25Melicia|VashjIt's slow
00:17.28hargibiah
00:17.33vhaarrphyber: eh?
00:17.35nymbiahargibi: slow. the server's a wee bit hammered
00:17.36hargibibigwigs takes forever :p
00:17.40vhaarrphyber: branches/FuBar_GroupFu/Rabbit
00:17.42Melicia|Vashjidd :p
00:17.47phybervhaarr: oh! :D
00:17.52vhaarrphyber: nubcake
00:18.02phyberyou are correct.
00:18.11vhaarr:P
00:18.15phyberSo, I didn't need to delete all of that retarded whitespace ;_;
00:18.15demliApart from oCB, are there any other Ace casting bar addons?
00:18.31vhaarrphyber: No.
00:18.32cynyrdemli: oCBRipoff
00:18.41vhaarrcynyr: -o
00:18.57cynyrvhaarr: was listed in /files
00:19.19vhaarrIt's called "CBRipoff".
00:19.22vhaarrNot "oCBRipoff".
00:19.25demlii'll have a look at that then, thanks
00:19.50cynyrvhaarr: sry, i'm not looking at it atm
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00:20.15Adirellegaah, can get tsvn to show diff... server is too slow
00:20.16Kyle___hello everyone
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00:23.19cynyrwowo is the standalone lua interpeter small....
00:23.23Kyle___wow - its nice to see so many WoWAce users around :-D
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00:23.59cynyrthere are quite alot of us...
00:24.07kergothcynyr: lua is small in general, thats one of the nice things about it
00:24.21kergothpeople have embedded lua interpreters in microprocessors for embedded use
00:25.02kergothi always planned on using lua as an OS independent representation of firewall/routing rules and configuration for a wrt54gs type device, but never got around to it
00:25.20cynyrkergoth: wow, so learning this might actully be useful in the real world for me then...
00:26.01NightHawkTheSaneEverything is useful in the real world. The fun part is figuring out how.
00:26.12CIA-1703renchap * r24712 10Prat/ (29 files in 2 dirs):
00:26.12CIA-17Prat:
00:26.12CIA-17- frFR translation
00:26.12CIA-17- All strings can now be translated
00:26.20Daemonakergoth dd-wrt or white-russian?
00:26.23trhNightHawkTheSane: uhmm.. there are things that aren't :)
00:26.35phyberyou also need to get to the real world first.  rainbow pills and all that.
00:26.41kergothmy wrt is actually running stock firmware atm, i feel dirty
00:26.50Daemonabad boy
00:26.57kergothcynyr: indeed. i was using lua for stuff before wow came out
00:27.05cynyrNightHawkTheSane: some things are easier to figure out how to use them
00:27.30NightHawkTheSanetrh: no see, like i said, the fun part is figuring out how to actually apply all the useless crap you know :P
00:27.56cynyrNightHawkTheSane: yes that is fun :)
00:27.57hargibiAnyone know any addon i can use to move the Top score points thingey. the alliance / horde point thing
00:27.59trhNightHawkTheSane: then explain me whats the *real world* application of very weird theoretical math :P
00:28.12Adirelletoadkiller : the drag-drop feature of last autobar is a killer one
00:28.23cynyrtrh: figuring how how to make a teleporter?
00:28.24Barbanuskergoth, I feel dirtier, I make sure you see as much advertising as possible on the internet.
00:28.53NightHawkTheSanetrh: hell if i know, i'm not a theoretical mathematician. :P
00:28.53DaemonaBarbanus thats what noscript forfirefox is for ;)
00:28.56kergothads? are those those things you see when you disable adblock?
00:28.58cynyrBarbanus: adblock+ and firefox keep me from seeing all that
00:29.08trhNightHawkTheSane: the thing is: they don't know it too :)
00:29.08cynyrkergoth: i think so
00:29.18kergothheh, the other day a friend of mine asked me to take a look at how lame his google ads were on his site
00:29.25kergothtook me a few minutes to figure out why i couldnt find them :P
00:29.33trhNightHawkTheSane: thats why its theoretical, it doesnt has real world applications and will probably never have :)
00:29.34Daemonalol
00:29.39Adirellekergoth : lol
00:29.42Barbanuscynyr, thats why I worded it the way I did :P
00:29.55BarbanusI circumvent adblocking software :P
00:30.01trhNightHawkTheSane: although the application might be to research the thesis further and get money for it ;)
00:30.26NightHawkTheSanesee, there you go :)
00:30.59vhaarrphyber: I'm just trying to figure out why google didn't pick up your commit, I'm curious to see how much time you wasted :P
00:31.11kergotheven if something bypasses adblock, its easy enough to block them, either with adblock rules, a greasemonkey script, or a stylish sript
00:31.13cynyrkergoth: i left the text google ads up, those don't bother me.. but if it moves i block the domain
00:31.25cynyrkergoth: or some dns games
00:31.32kergothindeed
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00:32.21trhcynyr: the worst thing are flash ads that make sound
00:32.28trhusing adblock plus since they first annoyed me
00:32.35kergothi wonder if i should get a job either as a configuration manager or a tools developer instead of embedded applications and kernel work
00:32.43cynyrtrh: yep you move or make noise i block it
00:32.55stavmarwhat might cause prat not to hold its font size selection?
00:32.56kergothi seem to end up spending time writing or manipulating tools and the development process anyway
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00:33.07trhcynyr: yeah.. my opinion :)
00:33.58hargibiSo are there any other auto storting inventorys else then arkinv and eng? :p
00:34.08NightHawkTheSanehargibi: Baggins
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00:34.13hargibiits nice? =)
00:34.17hargibinever tryed it
00:34.21kergothvbagnon too, though its likely going away from that
00:34.50cynyrtrh: hmm lua is alot like c++/php.. the little bit i've done in those.. (fprintf(stdout,"foo");)
00:34.57NightHawkTheSaneYeah, Baggins is nice, very powerful. And vBagnon is good too
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00:35.01Kirkburn|VistaBtw this list of addons was on the PC Format January coverdisc: http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=addonsrl0.jpg
00:35.07hargibiok :) will try baggins :P
00:35.12steevhmm
00:35.14TularAnyone know of an addon that lets you share friend lists?
00:35.17kergothlua reminds me more of python/ruby syntactically than php or c++
00:35.45cynyr<3 baggings /thank Adirelle
00:35.56cynyrand everyone else that helped
00:36.19Adirellecynyr : Nargiddley is the main author
00:36.24trhcynyr: not syntax-wise, but usually most programming languages are somehow the same ;)
00:36.34TullerI really need to focus vbagnon on something, given its all over the place right now
00:36.42sylvanaarstavmar: are you having a prat issue?
00:37.08cynyrAdirelle: thats who it was
00:37.14nymbiai should stock up on edible crap before this damn snowstorm.. afk a bit
00:37.27NightHawkTheSanesnowstorm?
00:37.39nymbiayup
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00:37.43kenlyric|homeheh, cartographer needs a priority system for minimap icons.
00:37.44hargibii hate a snowstorm here in sweden :P
00:37.47NightHawkTheSanewhereabouts are you?
00:37.49nymbiahehe ;)
00:37.53nymbiai'm in colorado
00:37.55hargibi=)
00:38.04NightHawkTheSaneahh, neat.
00:38.11Adirellecynyr: btw, I think some other goodies may come, or not :p
00:38.17sylvanaarstavmar: prat doesnt hold its font if you dont configure the font for each chat frame using prat
00:38.19Adirellebut now i'll sleep
00:38.38phybervhaarr: how would google tell you that? :o
00:38.46steevis there a fix for this SetPoint() stuff?
00:38.51vhaarrphyber: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace?lnk=oa
00:38.58phyberI wasted most of my time making the thing readable ;)
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00:39.26kenlyric|homemy hunter pet trainer dot was covering the quest return dot.
00:39.36draculaI noticed my MetaMap resetting to my current location when zooming to other zones, and I tracked down that FuBar_GuildFu is the cause of it...
00:39.44Adirellenight !
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00:39.49draculaanyone knows what API call is responsible for it?
00:40.54Nomad_Wandereranyone know how to get party pets to show in aguf?
00:41.13vhaarrdracula: Even Blizzard does that internally some times.
00:41.23vhaarrNomad_Wanderer: Yeah, code it.
00:41.45draculawell, with GuildFu enabled it happens on every GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event
00:41.45Nomad_Wandereroh.
00:42.07draculawithout GuildFu I havent seen it reset yet
00:42.29vhaarrdracula: So modify your GuildFu?
00:42.48draculathat's what I'm trying to do :)
00:43.16draculabut first I need to find the evil call
00:43.27vhaarrSetMapToCurrentZone() ?
00:43.47vhaarrShouldn't be hard to find if you know the event.
00:43.55vhaarror search the code for "map" and "zone".
00:44.14draculait uses the Tourist library
00:45.41vhaarrphyber: How do you like my groupfu, then? ^^
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00:46.35draculaGroupFu? that's one of the addons I havent been able to find after the recent patches
00:46.54vhaarrsvn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FuBar_GroupFu/Rabbit
00:49.20Sincerityhi :)
00:49.26stavmarso can oCD scale be adjusted?
00:50.06vhaarrhi sinc
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00:51.26hargibianyone feel they have a min to help me a sec with baggins?
00:51.27stavmarhaste, ping?
00:51.40Nargiddleyhargibi, what you need ?
00:52.14hargibiWell. i want the empty quiver slots to be next to the arrows
00:52.26hargibiand the empty normal slots to be in the "other" bag
00:52.27hargibi:O
00:52.51Nargiddleyisnt that what it does by default ?
00:53.02hargibinope
00:53.32Dekunahmm, are there any calculator mods on the SVN?
00:53.53vhaarr<PROTECTED>
00:54.24TularAnyone know of an addon that lets you share friend lists?
00:55.25durcynTular: once upon a time I would've said FriendShare, not sure if it's been updated.
00:55.32Kadish_For those who want to try my updater:    http://anubis.case.edu/AceUpdater.exe
00:55.45Kadish_er rather
00:55.49durcynKadish_: i run every random win32 binary I see on irc.  will do!
00:55.52Kadish_http://anubis.case.edu/AceUpdater.zip
00:55.55Kadish_hehe
00:56.00Kadish_yeah mistype :p
00:56.03Nargiddleyhargibi, its doing it for me by default.
00:56.13CIA-1703aileen * r24713 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (FuBar_VolumeFu.toc README.txt VolumeFu.lua):
00:56.13CIA-17FuBar_VolumeFu:
00:56.13CIA-17- Fixed a bug that let you go over 100% and under 0%
00:56.13CIA-17- .toc 20003
00:56.17Kadish_not that it helps much, since the zip just contains the .exe
00:56.27Kadish_it's written on .net so you will need the .net runtime
00:56.34hargibiKadish_ how does it work?
00:56.37Kadish_and there are no instructions yet
00:56.46Kadish_basically just drop it in your WoW/Interface/Addons folder
00:56.48Kadish_and run it
00:56.51Funkeh`nn
00:56.55hargibioh
00:57.24Tulardurcyn: did a quick search and didnt see it, any other suggestions?
00:57.28Kadish_it's pretty simple, and fast now that i multithreaded it
00:57.52cynyrKadish_: so it opens more than 1 connection to the server?
00:57.53Kadish_it just tries to grab the latest zip from the wowace site, and if there is a 404 it assumes that it's not an Ace2 addon
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00:58.07Kadish_yes, should it not?
00:58.29Kadish_the previous version did not
00:58.42Kadish_but it took forever to get all the files
00:58.44renchapif there is a 404 it assumes that it's not an Ace2 addon => oO
00:58.48cynyrKadish_: well that would mean that each user has just become user*addons, from a load perspective
00:59.02Kadish_hehe i know it's something i started last night on a whim, it's not super yet
00:59.39Kadish_renchap: but it's better than trying to figure out which of the addons you have is an ace addon and which is not
00:59.40renchaphave a look at the files/descript.ion file
00:59.48ZealotOnAStickvhaarr: go ahead and rename and release your GroupFu branch already.  :P
01:00.03cynyrKadish_: well the big thing i see is that the wowace server is already takking a huge load on patch day it seems(anyone know for sure) and that would be a bad idea if it was in wide use
01:00.18renchapmuch better than flooding the server with useless requests
01:00.33Kadish_cynyr: that is probably true
01:00.46vhaarrZealotOnAStick: ^^
01:01.14Kadish_renchap: did not know about the existence of that file, I will use it in the next revision
01:01.18vhaarrZealotOnAStick: or maybe I could just tag his version and ninja the groupfu name
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01:01.34cynyrKadish_: i have a little bash script to update my addons from the svn server, and i made sure to do them one at a time for that reason... juts a thought though
01:01.50Nargiddleyhargibi, where is it putting the empty ammo slots ?
01:01.50ZealotOnAStickThat works too.
01:01.57renchaptime to sleep, good night all :)
01:02.00ZealotOnAStickthough I was sort of fond of CroupierFu.  
01:02.10ZealotOnAStickNow someone needs to write a dice mod or something.
01:02.13hargibiNargiddley nowhere.. but im using engbags now.. had it for months so :)
01:02.14Kadish_wonder if there is an easy way to request multiple files from a single tcp connection via .net
01:02.18ZealotOnAStickBaccaratFu
01:02.28Kadish_because even one at a time, its still opening and closing tcp connections for each download which isnt optimal
01:02.37vhaarrphyber: Ah, there it is: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_frm/thread/716544d4afce95b2/23826ef9cac30fbf#23826ef9cac30fbf
01:02.43AniasRBIf you have beta access - world event going on atm on hellfire.
01:02.56hargibineed beta =(
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01:03.14cynyrKadish_: true, but at least each user is then not a multiple load on the server
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01:03.41Kadish_yeah i know
01:04.08ZealotOnAStickHrm, what kind of world event?
01:04.22Goebthe framerate crushing kind
01:04.23kagaroKarlThePagan: ping
01:04.50CIA-1703renchap * r24714 10Prat/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
01:04.50CIA-17Prat:
01:04.50CIA-17- removing useless Toggle menu items in some modules
01:04.50CIA-17- more strings can be translated (missing debug stuff)
01:04.50CIA-17- frFR translation update
01:05.00NightHawkTheSanehmm... world event on beta..?
01:05.18KarlThePagankagaro, pong - i've barely scratched the surface of index caching
01:05.35NightHawkTheSaneI guess working on my guild's website can be put off for that..
01:05.35kagaroKarlThePagan: gotcha
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01:05.58KarlThePagando you have the facilities to run outside wow?
01:06.02KarlThePaganrun lua i mean
01:06.11kagarohow the performance of metatables in lua?
01:06.25kagaroKarlThePagan: yeah it seems to run fast and correctly
01:06.27KarlThePagandunno.. I'd assume pretty good
01:06.29KarlThePagancool
01:07.09KarlThePaganI have some code sorta similar to that... but I'm not sure if it belongs in Babbel zone... or tourist
01:07.22kagarock: you done a lot of meta table coding could you look at Babble-Ore? Ive got some code in for a meta table index cahce but want someone to look over it since I have not messed with metatables much
01:07.31KarlThePagani mean similar in that it matches zones to instances (veins to metals)
01:07.31kagarokergoth: you too :P
01:07.49ckknightbit busy working on top-secret projects
01:07.51kagarothat why i made the meta cache
01:08.07KarlThePagantop secret == pix pls
01:08.31kagarorofl
01:09.06kagarohas anyone else done a lot of metatable coding ?
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01:10.09kagaroKarlThePagan I'll most likely move the vein to metal code out of babble-ore and just leave the translations parts in
01:10.10sbuhiya
01:10.35sbui think i dont like trinity anymore %-)
01:10.53KarlThePagankagaro, yea that makes sense - as soon as I've seen my LFG <-> instance code behave I'll see where it fits into tourist
01:11.20sbuhmm btw
01:11.22sbu~seen Mikma
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01:12.01kagarotrying to think of a good name for a profession gathering library to map things like ore to veins, skill to harvest and such
01:12.02sbueww
01:13.47KarlThePaganProspector
01:13.58KarlThePaganChemist
01:14.00TainStinkyPete
01:14.01kagaroKarlThePagan: good name
01:14.10kagaroProspector
01:14.15KarlThePaganwith that in mind... how does this kind of thing relate to periodic table?
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01:14.33kagaroI dont think very similar
01:14.37KarlThePaganhehe k
01:14.46KarlThePaganoh by the way
01:14.56KarlThePagandon't use prospector
01:14.57kagaroperiodic tracks items set and itemid's correct
01:15.06KarlThePaganit's the name of a profession now lol
01:15.20KarlThePaganjewelcrafting action
01:15.20KarlThePaganX.x
01:15.25kagaroKarlThePagan yup, ive got a Babble-Gem coded up at work
01:15.35kagarofor all the gem name translations
01:15.40KarlThePaganWTB prospecting predictor like a disenchant predictor
01:16.01KarlThePaganfrom what I hear it's about 25% failure, 25% 1 gem, 50% 2-3 gems
01:16.40sbuwhats bartender3_autobindings? :o
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01:17.34kenlyric|home25% failure? yuck.
01:17.39kenlyric|homeimagine if disenchanting had that...
01:17.43KarlThePaganheh
01:17.54KarlThePaganwell I was told 44 gems for 200 thorium ore
01:18.13KarlThePaganand of the ones which succeeded half gave 2-3 gems
01:18.17KarlThePaganwait my math is wrong lol
01:18.18kenlyric|homeI guess it makes a little sense, but you'd get really annoying streaks with that I bet.
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01:18.28KarlThePaganthe failure rate may be higher
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01:18.47cynyrhmm lua changes strings to numbers...
01:18.57kaidenAnyone else here use Musicstream and having troubles getting it working with the latest release?
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01:19.12JoshBorkecynyr: not all strings ;-)
01:20.16cynyrJoshBorke: just those that happen to be numbers.. like "10"
01:20.39cynyrkaiden: i hear bliz "fixed" something
01:22.23cynyrooo vim 7 auto applies syntax highlighting when you write a file
01:22.49kaidencynyr, ick fixed something to break that? :(
01:23.23cynyrkaiden: so i hear, something with the playstream() function, not taking urls anymore
01:23.46JoshBorkevim 7 rox!
01:23.47cynyralthough there is probably an addon somewhere to control winamp/itunes
01:24.08cynyrJoshBorke: i'm playing on gentoo :) and yea.. much nicer than 6.x
01:24.18kaidenthat is so fricken lame.. why would they break something like that :(
01:24.24steevcynyr: get with the times! vim 7's been out for aaaaaaaaaaages
01:24.34JoshBorkekaiden: because you can get information outside of the game that way
01:24.43cynyrsteev: i know, i haven't done any coding in like 3 months
01:24.55cynyrsteev: coding == bash script
01:25.06JoshBorkeif by ages you mean 6-12 months :P
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01:25.50cynyrsteev: the desktops had vim7 since it's been in x86
01:26.08steevok, ill let it slide for now ;)
01:26.16rpowers_Has anyone experienced the agUF "startTime" bug?
01:26.25Brunersnope
01:26.40JoshBorkeguillitine posted a link saying there are end of beta events giong on!
01:26.47JoshBorkeneener neener i beat you Kirkburn
01:26.50Kirkburn<Guillotine> EVERYONE: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=A3EB104B12791D2451D3D7C1CEAE6E81?topicId=65158373&sid=1
01:26.50Kirkburn<Guillotine> get on the beta realm for end-of beta event :D
01:26.57KirkburnI hate you, you bastard
01:27.12steevwhats an end of beta event
01:27.13cynyrhmm the version of lua i have seems to error on tonumber() instead of assiging nil
01:27.18JoshBorkewell, at least you'll quit digging me :P
01:27.22steevi mean do you get anything for your normal character?
01:27.33JoshBorkeapparently i just discovered shattrah city
01:27.36cynyrsteev: there is a world event on the beta servers
01:28.04JoshBorkea'dal is dead :-(
01:28.09steevhttp://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_011107_192134.png
01:28.18steevmy bar is too busy
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01:28.38CIA-17HealSync:
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01:29.16KarlThePaganbeta event lol
01:29.33KarlThePaganeyonix lv 70 draenai priest ... with the model of one of the bird guys
01:29.35cynyrwhich version of lua is wow using?
01:29.37KarlThePaganin 9/9 faith
01:29.37JoshBorkehis thunderclap just killed me
01:29.39KarlThePagan5.1
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01:29.58[Tr]Vokohello
01:30.07cynyrKarlThePagan: thanks
01:30.17KarlThePaganmaybe 5.1.1 cynyr
01:30.25[Tr]Vokoanyone that can take few minutes to help me with WoWAceOppdater?
01:30.38ne0-steev whats this quest addon on your screen?
01:30.59steevmonkeyquest
01:31.08ne0-sweet thx =)
01:31.09cynyr<3 monkey quest
01:31.21CIA-1703rabbit * r24716 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Bugfix.
01:31.34steevwhich is why i said earlier that monkeyquest > questfu (no ofense to the author of questfu, its nice, just i like it *right there*
01:32.04vhaarrWonder when the beta event will reach the EU servers.
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01:32.45RoartindonJust checking, dev.wowace.com is working for other people? I keep getting 200 OK, or else forcibly closed errors.
01:32.47cynyrsteev: what bar mod is that?
01:32.50Brunerswhat font are you using?
01:33.21vhaarrThat's bartender with cyCircled.
01:33.26steevyeah
01:33.30cynyrohh hmm
01:33.44steevi have too many buttons
01:33.53vhaarrI agree
01:34.06Brunersi even got 12 more than thta :)
01:34.10kaidenquick question, now that live client is 2.0.3 can i connect to the beta logon server with it? if i have a beta enabled account?
01:34.16cynyrhmm even with 5.1.1, the guide i'm reading says that tonumber is susposted to return nil if it can't convert to a number...
01:34.19steevthe first 2 rows are hotkeyed
01:34.19kaidenas i haven't updated my beta client in a long time
01:34.30steevkaiden: no
01:34.33vhaarrcynyr: That's correct.
01:34.46Brunerssteev: what font are you using?
01:35.01steevclearfont2 with calibri 1
01:35.02cynyrvhaarr: i get an stack error, with the standalone lua interpetur
01:35.23vhaarrcynyr: tonumber("hello") returns nil.
01:35.44Brunershaving troubles with the pratFu plugin
01:36.01RoartindonDnot' use PratFu, Prat has an inbuilt plugin
01:36.04Brunersthe text always comes up
01:36.12vhaarrPrat is bundled with a FBP now, delete the standalone one.
01:36.16cynyrvhaarr: so should tonumber(io.read()) if i type 'hello', right?
01:36.31kaidensteev, want me to tell you how to make your chat font prettier using clearfont2? :)
01:36.38kaidenhere i'll screenshot what mine looks like
01:36.47KirkburnOutline?
01:36.52steevkaiden: my fontsize is set to 11
01:36.54kaidenshush kirkburn
01:37.00kaidenKirkburn, you know you want it lol
01:37.03KirkburnYou already told me once!
01:37.05vhaarrcynyr: io.read() ?
01:37.08KirkburnScreenshot though, please =)
01:37.11Brunersvhaarr: that is what i ment, but the text on the thinge pops up all the time
01:37.12kaidenKirkburn, i wasn't talkin to you.. dirty brit LOL
01:37.21cynyrvhaarr: it's susposted read stdin
01:37.23vhaarrcynyr: I thought you had to provide an argument like "*all".
01:37.23Brunersvhaarr: even if only icon is enabled
01:37.45kaidenKirkburn, ok i'll upload one now so you can see it, it's purty
01:37.46cynyrsays, http://www.lua.org/pil/2.4.html
01:38.03vhaarrah, .read() reads one line
01:38.48kaidenKirkburn, have i mentioned how happy i am you finally made an in game config? :)
01:40.01steevkaiden: enough chatting. screenshots!
01:40.22steev(im curious how mine is prettier than yours)
01:40.32steevalthough, i just noticed apparently im running at 1024x768
01:40.38steevthats not right, should be 1280x1024
01:40.44steevno wonder i've felt cramped
01:40.47kaidenit takes time to get a spot to upload it lol
01:40.57kaidenplus i said wanna know how to make your chat text prettier
01:40.59vhaarrToadkiller: Where's my flying mount on AutoBar?
01:41.00kaiden:)
01:41.01steevwinscp+personal website ftw
01:41.15steevsince im not at work now and whatnot
01:41.19sylvanaarI want you guys that run prat, to try setting the chatbuttons to RIGHT, INSIDE
01:41.33kaidenhttp://www.easilyaddicted.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_011107_173650.jpg
01:42.26Roartindonwww.lim.com.au/wow/screenshot.jpg
01:42.48CIA-1703sylvanaar * r24718 10Prat/ (Prat.lua util.lua): Prat: New subsystem debugging option. Let just hope i didnt leave any on
01:43.05Goebsylv- I use right, inside
01:43.37vhaarrRoartindon: that's insane :P
01:43.53sylvanaarGoeb: get the text to go all the way to the right side
01:43.54cynyrkaiden: ow!!
01:43.56RoartindonBig screen :)
01:44.03vhaarr-406.0 KiB/s ?
01:44.04sylvanaarGoeb: then scroll up and down
01:44.05vhaarr:P
01:44.27kaidencynyr, ow what? :)
01:44.28RoartindonProbably screenshotted it right after a garbage collection or something to get taht negative
01:44.54cynyrkaiden: that font hurts my eyes :P
01:45.01kaidencynyr, pfft, nub
01:45.02kaidenlol
01:45.22kaideni love it, makes it so much easier to read when you dont have a backdrop
01:45.30CIA-1703werehamster * r24719 10HealSync/HealSync.toc:
01:45.30CIA-17HealSync:
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01:45.35cynyrRoartindon: And for having such a large screen you see very littel of the game
01:45.56Roartindoncynyr: Heh, I've seen far worse :)
01:45.58CIA-1703werehamster * r24720 10IFrameManager/IFrameManager.toc:
01:45.58CIA-17IFrameManager:
01:45.58CIA-17<PROTECTED>
01:46.24RoartindonYou don't realise how big taht screen is.. the central part without anything on it is bigger than my old monitor alt-z-ed
01:46.33sylvanaaractually you can just turn on Justify: Right to see
01:46.48cynyrRoartindon: ohh yes, and lol
01:47.28steevkaiden: erm, nothing can make that chat font pretty - just my opinion :)
01:47.37cynyrRoartindon: it is a decent step up from my 1280x1024....
01:47.59Roartindoncynyr: Makes it a lot easier to watch what's happening in raids :)
01:48.07kaidensteev, i guess to each their own
01:48.24steev:)
01:48.40steevRoartindon: that bottom stuff, you should viewport
01:48.41kaidenbecause imo yours looks like crap and is hard to read :/ that's why i added the outline to mine so i could actually read it in situations where i was in a high brightness area that didn't have much to offset the text
01:48.44cynyrRoartindon: i like grid for that, after i played with it bit
01:49.30DrZootdoes anyone know if there is a working Auctioneer somewhere? or an ace equivalent?
01:49.39steevkaiden: erm, then why did you ask how to make your chat pretty like mine?
01:49.46BrunersDrZoot: the one im using is working
01:49.51BrunersDrZoot: beta version
01:50.02vhaarrDrZoot: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1317.zip
01:50.08kaidensteev, you should go back and read what i said lol
01:50.14cynyrDrZoot: KCI_Items
01:51.20Roartindonsteev: I did try viewporting it
01:51.22ZealotOnAStickok, beta world event = lag city.
01:51.30RoartindonI found I preferred having something behind the windows
01:52.03steevkaiden: ahh, i think a shadow would be nice, but your font is too thick
01:53.37kaidensteev, i dunno, i've always been partial to the thicker fonts
01:53.56kaidenit's calibri v1 with the default font switched to CalibriBold instead of CalibriNormal
01:54.16sylvanaarim just so proud of this for some reason http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wowscrnshot_011107_194743.jpg
01:54.16kaideni'm so used to a fixedwidth font, running on linux so often it just felt right using the bold version
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01:54.28Nomad_Wandereris wow aceupdater net 1.1 or 2.0? is .net 2.0 backward compatible?
01:55.23sl8r88sylvanaar: nifty
01:56.44ZealotOnAStickRoartindon: what resolution is that?
01:56.44cynyrsylvanaar: what is that?
01:56.47CIA-1703fleetfoot * r24721 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua:
01:56.47CIA-17LittleTrouble:
01:56.47CIA-17- Removed dead code.
01:57.02steevi dunno
01:57.03RoartindonZealot: 2560x1600
01:57.16steevi'd say i run on linux fairly often myself
01:57.41sylvanaarcynyr: the text is flowing around the button
01:57.47steevi guess im just used to beautiful fonts in linux ;)
01:57.54Navvis it possible to make a macro that focuses a target if there's no focus, and unfocuses if there's a focus?
01:57.55cynyrsylvanaar: ohhh
01:58.00Navvor rather, a small script
01:58.12steevNavv: not while in combat
01:58.26Navvhm
01:58.27kaidensteev, well most of my work is on barren systems that are strictly used for webhosting, connected via putty :( no beauty there lol
01:58.27cynyrRIP defendyourself
01:58.32Brunerswhy havent anyone maked a questlog based on ace yet really?
01:58.32Navvfocus cannot be changed in combat?
01:58.46Nomad_Wandererquest fu?
01:58.47steevkaiden: :( thats putty's fault, don't blame linux!
01:58.48RoartindonNavv: focus can be, but you can't conditionally target stuff in combat using scripts
01:58.58steevi use Terminal myself, and its pretty
01:59.09cynyrsteev: xfce user?
01:59.15Navvi just want to make a focus toggler essentially, to a macro
01:59.20Navvnothing else
01:59.20kaidensteev, nevah! :P
01:59.46kenlyric|homeI"m pretty sure you just used the words "pretty font" and "linux" in the same sentence.
01:59.50RoartindonNavv: I've just bound my insert key to be "set focus"
02:00.08kaidensteev, plus another reason for my font is i run in widescreen and due to a bug in the font renderer in wow i have to run the fonts with scale reduction so it looks really screwed up unless i use a fixed width
02:00.13Navvyeah, that's np, just musing if you can make a toggle of sorts
02:00.20cynyrkenlyric|home: ?? and i think they look nicer than window's fonts
02:00.21Navvsince there's nothing hugely smart in that
02:00.27Navvand automating
02:00.48RoartindonNavv: If it were possibel to script focus setting, the mods could broadcast focus mid-battle
02:00.49kenlyric|homecynyr: I want to know where you found these magic fonts, and which environment this is.
02:00.57RoartindonAnd blizzard wouldn't want people being given targets :)
02:01.02Navvhmm yes, this is true
02:01.04kenlyric|homecause linux default fonts are infamous for being terrible
02:01.10cynyrkenlyric|home: xgce 4.4RC2, with xorg 7.1
02:01.22steevkaiden: ahh, good point, i dunno though, lemme see if i can find a buddy's screenie, sec
02:01.25vhaarrkenlyric|home: Heh, maybe 5 years ago.
02:01.33ravagernlCan anyone help me with a Clique macro?
02:01.57kaidensteev, more or less just add a , "OUTLINE" to the ChatFont portion of Design.lua in ClearFont2
02:02.01sbumhpf
02:02.04kaidenyou'll see if it looks right for you with an outline
02:02.05ravagernlI want it to cast ancestral spirit when im not in combat and Healing wave when else
02:02.14sbuis there some dark portal quest chain or just that one stupid kill 6 felguards quest?
02:02.16ravagernlSofar I have /cast [nocombat,target=mouseover,dead] Ancestral Spirit; Healing Wave
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02:02.37kenlyric|homevhaarr:  I think it's only been a year since my last linux foray. I remember that was step one after getting kde to work.
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02:03.01RoartindonI gave up on Linux years ago when I got my first Mac OSX laptop
02:03.01vhaarrkenlyric|home: Your distro sucks, then.
02:03.03sylvanaarravagernl: in clique? read the manual more
02:03.27Kirkburnkaiden, screenshot?
02:03.31ravagernlI know where to put it, in the macro code, but the problem itself is the macro
02:03.45kenlyric|homevhaarr: I just emerge a decent font, and then it looks pretty :)
02:04.01Kirkburnkaiden, nvm, seen it
02:04.03RoartindonKirkburn: Kaiden's WoW screenshot: http://www.easilyaddicted.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_011107_173650.jpg
02:04.14cynyrvhaarr: i didn't even do that
02:04.19vhaarrcynyr: Do what?
02:04.31KirkburnThat is pretty cool, but probably wouldn't be so good at low res
02:04.42cynyrvhaarr: emerge -av nice-font, and the default is "nice"
02:04.44kaidenKirkburn|Vista, probably not
02:04.46kenlyric|homedamn, that looks good. Why doesn't my fubar look so good?
02:04.51vhaarrcynyr: Clearly you haven't read the discussion.
02:05.03kenlyric|homeis that 1.0 ui scale?
02:05.13vhaarrNo matter, sleepy time :(
02:05.20KirkburnUI scale depends on your resolution
02:05.30kaidenkenlyric|home, yes
02:05.38kenlyric|homereally, I thought UI scale was always 1.
02:06.24kenlyric|homeof course, 1 is bigger on higher resolutions.
02:06.32trhi believe nice-font under linux only means, that there are alot of happy smileys in it
02:06.41kaidenhaha trh
02:06.49ravagernlhow did he get a shadow under his chat?
02:07.11kaidenravagernl, I abused Kirkburn's clearfont code and added an outline to his setfont calls to the chatfont
02:07.15cynyrso, ~= is the same as the C !=?
02:07.28trhcynyr: exactly
02:07.33cynyrtrh: okay
02:07.41kenlyric|homecynyr: except they made it different because they thought it would be fun.
02:07.43ravagernl<PROTECTED>
02:07.44purlravagernl: I think you lost me on that one
02:07.51cynyrkenlyric|home: grr at then
02:07.59ravagernllol @ purl
02:08.11VelkynIs there a way to send pm's in IRC?
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02:08.21testifyOuch
02:08.24ravagernlkaiden, what line did you change exactly?
02:08.38testifyBT3 wrecked shadow form stance bars
02:08.47kaidenravagernl, hold on
02:09.02CIA-1703kagaro * r24723 10TalismongerLib/ (. Talismonger-1.0/Talismonger-1.0.lua): TalismongerLib: propset
02:09.14nymbiakagaro: what's that?
02:09.19kenlyric|homejust how many languages use != to mean not equal?
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02:09.39kaidenkenlyric|home, i changed ChatFontNormal:SetFont(NORMAL_TEXT_FONT, 14 * scale) to ChatFontNormal:SetFont(NORMAL_TEXT_FONT, 14 * scale, "OUTLINE")
02:09.40kaiden:p
02:09.41kagaroore,herb,fishing skill maps, and node to ore mappings .. im taking them out of babble
02:09.45cynyrs/then/them/
02:09.45sylvanaarthe c-like ones
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02:09.57nymbiakagaro: ah, cool
02:10.05cynyrkenlyric|home: most i think.....
02:10.36kenlyric|homeI would be completely lost if a language didn't use !=. I'm not sure my brain could function.
02:10.38kagaroTalismonger:IsOreNode  IsFishingNode IsFish IsQuestFish GetHerbSkill(herb) IsRichNode  ..etc
02:10.50beerkekagaro, did you ever think of make a skinning module for cartographer ?
02:10.53kenlyric|home~= seems like it should average something...
02:11.05beerkesimilar to the stats module you have now
02:11.10NightHawkTheSaneevery time i see ~= i think perl substitutions
02:11.13kagarobeerke: no havent thought of that
02:11.13cynyrkenlyric|home: or be a fuzzy match of some sort...
02:11.19WobWorkwell not that lua has any *= /= etc
02:11.53cynyris there a sed like function in lua?
02:11.56VelkynDurcyn: You there mate?
02:11.58kenlyric|homethen again... navigating the multitude of if, then, else, elseif, elsif, else if is always fun.
02:12.16WobWorkgmatch?
02:12.30trhkenlyric|home: to me it looks like a fuzzy ==  meaning that every value that is nearly the same value returns true
02:12.35cynyr.gsub i think it was.. doh
02:12.42kenlyric|homeWobWork... math functions are a little different... languages do those different all the time. But != seems pretty common.
02:12.42Fisker-btw grennon
02:12.43Fisker-you win
02:12.49NightHawkTheSanekenlyric|home: my personal favorite is bash's "if/fi" wtf? :P
02:12.50durcynVelkyn: hrm?
02:12.52CIA-1703kagaro * r24724 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2: removed non translation stuff
02:13.01cynyrNightHawkTheSane: thats typical bash
02:13.11NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i know, but its still very "wtf?" :P
02:13.15kenlyric|homeNightHawkTheSane: well, you know shell programmers. Nothing longer than two letters.
02:13.27cynyrand i actully like that.. lets me know what it is ending... like case and esac
02:13.31kenlyric|homeit's short for "fin"
02:13.31trhNightHawkTheSane: but that is explainable through compatibility issues with korn shell :)
02:13.32WobWorkWell, you could use the syntax "NightHawkTheSane: wtf? enaSehTkwaHtghiN"
02:13.40CIA-1703kagaro * r24725 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2: removed non translation stuff
02:13.47NightHawkTheSanelol
02:13.50trhNightHawkTheSane: but in other languages theres no excuse for such bs ;)
02:14.05RoartindonHeh.. I prefer good old { }, but that's the C/C++ in me I guess
02:14.21WobWorkblockalicious
02:14.21trhRoartindon: and C# :)
02:14.24sylvanaari used that kinda thing in Prat cept i used case sS SERVER Ss
02:14.31kenlyric|homewhat, no brackets in lua?
02:14.35CIA-1703kagaro * r24726 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Ore-2.2: removed non translation stuff
02:14.46WobWorkLargely unnecessary
02:14.47trhyep.. its pascal-style if then else end
02:14.48RoartindonC#, but I can't do my work in C#, so I've still not properly learnt it
02:14.51WobWorkbut I use them anyway
02:15.03WobWorkif frog=womble then cabbage end
02:15.11trhRoartindon: you can do nearly everything in c#.... well.. except for driver development :)
02:15.14Roartindonlua has brackets for tables :)
02:15.14WobWorkor if(frog==womble) then cabbage end
02:15.22Roartindontrh: Try Nintendo DS development :)
02:15.25kagarook Babble-ore,fih,and herb only contain translations
02:15.31trhRoartindon: you do that commercially? :)
02:15.33NightHawkTheSaneone thing that i do in lua that i probably shouldn't is habitually tack ; on the end of every line. go go c-like syntax :\
02:15.40trhRoartindon: like known-games and not for fun? :)
02:15.42Roartindonyeah, worked on GameBoy, GameBoyAdvance, DS
02:15.44WobWorkNightHawkTheSane: why not?
02:15.46WobWorkI do that
02:15.47trhRoartindon: nice :)
02:15.55WobWorkIt keeps me from forgetting to do so at work
02:15.59VelkynDurcyn:  Earlier we went through all that to cut down on mem usage, deleted prolly 20+ mods and such... I am still loading in at 61 MiBs
02:15.59sylvanaarwell i wasted almost an hour today adding in semicolons at work
02:16.04kagaroKarlThePagan: I chose Talismonger for the library name
02:16.06NightHawkTheSaneIt just seems like a waste.
02:16.13WobWorkmeh
02:16.22NightHawkTheSanei mean, i still do it, because it's habit, but yeah
02:16.25WobWorkDo as habit tells you
02:16.29sylvanaarbecause i am forgetting to use them in C++
02:16.29RoartindonAlso have done PC, and a long long time ago, PS2 work
02:16.35WobWorkit saves you grief later on =P
02:16.46NightHawkTheSaneindeed :)
02:16.59KarlThePagankagaro, heeh
02:17.03durcynVelkyn: Ugh. on toast.
02:17.08cynyrsylvanaar: use vim, <shift>+a,
02:17.08cynyr;
02:17.22cynyrthen move down and hit '.'
02:17.23VelkynDurcyn: TBH I think I need to strip everything out and start from scratch :(
02:17.29trhRoartindon: i played long ago with a gameboy color and a external flashing devices for cadridges
02:17.31WobWork<3 Vim
02:17.36sylvanaari actually tried to use end in c++ today
02:17.37kenlyric|homehate how every language developer thinks they need to re-invent the wheel. Re-invent the engine, the transmission, but the wheel just works. syntax differences are just a way to say "ooh, I wrote a new language"
02:17.41cynyr<3<3 vim
02:17.52WobWorkhttp://www.viemu.com/
02:17.53CIA-1703werehamster * r24727 10/branches/HealSync/:
02:17.53CIA-17HealSync (branch):
02:17.53CIA-17<PROTECTED>
02:17.54trhRoartindon: but i guess you can't compare that to the "real" development equipment :)
02:18.00WobWorkI'm debating on whether to buy it
02:18.08Roartindontrh: You'd be surprised
02:18.13WobWorkcause like, omg $70
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02:18.18Roartindon.We preferred our lik-sang GBA stuff to the proper Nintendo shit
02:18.23WobWork(of course I can claim it on tax later, but still...)
02:18.34trhRoartindon: lol :)
02:18.35RoartindonThe proper nintendo stuff was slower, required SCSI, and cost a bucketload
02:18.44sylvanaardont like vim
02:18.46kylectorsorry if this has been asked a million times...any ide why OneBag isn't working?
02:18.56KarlThePaganworks for me
02:18.56cynyrWobWork: just use gvim and reload the file.. it's cheeper
02:19.00VelkynDurcyn:  Any chance you could spot me your list mate?  It seemed as if you were using many similiar mods
02:19.02sylvanaaroi
02:19.08cynyrkylector: works here too
02:19.13Fisker-WobWork WAREZ IT!1
02:19.15trhRoartindon: but i guess the DS-equip is alot more advanced
02:19.19WobWorkcynyr: yeah, but the intergration is really useful
02:19.20Roartindontrh: In the end, I wrote my own GBA development platform to run under Windows, and did all my code on that; and very very rarely ran it on th actual GBA
02:19.28WobWorkFisker-: Find me a crack and I'll wuv you
02:19.29Roartindontrh: The DS eqiupment is a lot better, yes.
02:19.33kylectorhmmm
02:19.36kenlyric|homewait, ds games on my windowz?
02:19.38cynyrWobWork: you can assign a keybinding to compile/run
02:19.38kenlyric|homesell me it now!
02:19.44kylectormust be something retarded I'm doing. will try again
02:19.56durcynVelkyn: i suppose.  got an email address?
02:20.03durcynVelkyn: or i could spew it in whispers, i guess
02:20.25kenlyric|homewow, coke blak is just as disgusting as you'd imagine it would be. It's like a party in my mouth and everyone's throwing up.
02:20.55cynyrROFL
02:21.04trhkenlyric|home: luckily that one isn't sold here.. only vanilla, zero, light and light with citrus
02:21.05kylectoryup, onebag still says out of date.
02:21.09WobWorkcoke... what?
02:21.23KarlThePagankylector, oh just click "run out of date addons"
02:21.28KarlThePaganit works
02:21.32kylectorhaha, oh ok :) thanks :)
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02:21.45CIA-1703fleetfoot * r24728 10LittleTrouble/ (5 files):
02:21.46CIA-17LittleTrouble:
02:21.46CIA-17- Fixed translations
02:21.46CIA-17- Some code cleaning
02:21.55trhbut the best cola is "afri-cola" :) but i believe that one isn't known outside of germany :)
02:22.06KarlThePaganCoca-Kona
02:22.08cynyrtrh: <3 afi-cola!!!
02:22.25cynyrs/afi/afri/
02:22.30trhcynyr: yeah! <3 goood amount if caffeine :)
02:22.49cynyrtrh: one of the things that sticks out from my trip to germany
02:22.59cynyrthat and frankenham alt
02:23.00trh25mg caffeine / 100ml :)
02:23.04trhmaximum allowed in germany :)
02:23.14VelkynDurcyn: zerosk8tr137@hotmail.com
02:23.22kenlyric|homeit's exactly how you'd expect it to taste. Like you accidentally poored a cold can of coke into your coffee from this morning.
02:23.25trhcynyr: frankenham alt.. never heard of that one :)
02:23.27kylectorkarlthepagan: thanks, that did the trick!!! :)
02:23.46VelkynDurcyn:  Really appreciate it man, thought I could handle it by myself... and I guess if 110MiBs.... lol well didnt do a very good job.  lol
02:23.55NightHawkTheSane.... i actually like coke blak. a bit..
02:23.56cynyrtrh: dark beer from frankenheim(sp) i forget it's been a loong time since i used my deutsch
02:24.15trhcynyr: ah.. there are so many beer breweries in germany :)
02:24.26cynyrtrh: i know it was great
02:24.49cynyrclosest thing in the states i thonk would be guinness
02:24.49durcynVelkyn: sent.
02:24.57trhcynyr: if you're in germany you have to give "duckstein" a taste :)
02:25.35WobWorkmm
02:25.37WobWorkguinness
02:25.39cynyrtrh: if i ever get a chance to go back
02:25.56cynyrWobWork: it's ginuess of killians here
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02:26.13cynyrs/of/or/
02:27.00trhneed to taste duff beer ;)
02:27.09kenlyric|homei have a can of duff at work.
02:27.35kenlyric|homeit's fake though... no beer in it.
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02:27.45kenlyric|homeI understand the australian stuff was... less than stellar.
02:28.43WobWork?
02:28.51WobWorkBetter than that american piss =P
02:29.02VelkynHow does one access /teksupport in game?
02:29.09Nomad_WandererShut your mouth. there are some good americab beers
02:29.10WobWork/ace enable teksupport
02:29.22VelkynThank you.
02:29.23steevs/some/none/g
02:29.26WobWorkFeh, none I'd drink in place of an aussie beer
02:29.32WobWorkunless it was like... fosters
02:29.36WobWorkor fourx
02:29.39kenlyric|homeWobWork... no, this beer was awful swill. Not even a drunk nascar fan would like it.
02:29.41WobWorkor vicbitter
02:29.54WobWorkcause yeah, there are some crappy aussie beers
02:29.56WobWorkwe just export it
02:30.01WobWork^^
02:30.02Nomad_WandererStone for example or victory
02:30.03cynyrlol
02:30.04CIA-1703kagaro * r24729 10TalismongerLib/Talismonger-1.0/Talismonger-1.0.lua: TalismongerLib: bug fix
02:30.16kagaroWell as soonas the wiki is back up Ill add docs
02:30.28VelkynSays teksupport is already enabled..
02:30.32trhjust remember that the american budweiser isn't even close to the original one :)
02:30.37durcynVelkyn:  /ace load tekSupport ?
02:30.51WobWorkwhups, that'd be it
02:30.53VelkynThere it is.
02:31.01durcynit's LoD, disabled by default.
02:31.23Velkynlol - I still dont see it though - lol
02:31.29WobWorkGrab SupplyNDemand
02:31.33VelkynIs it something that you access outside of game?
02:31.40WobWorknah
02:31.47WobWorkshould have a fubar component maybe?
02:32.04AzurewrathWobWork: taste some good german Beer.. but i agree that the american stuff is crap ;)
02:32.04durcynblue plus sign, the texture is from the thaddius positive charge debuff
02:32.08testifyCan anyone tell me if GetNumShapeshiftForm() includes shadow form?
02:32.14WobWorkyes
02:32.19WobWorkusually form 1
02:32.49kenlyric|homeI heard a budweiser commercial about them winning a beer competition. How could that ever win a beer competition?
02:32.54testifyI keep checking it while I switch in and out, and it keeps returning 0
02:33.06kenlyric|homei don't even like beer and I can look at that water and see its no good.
02:33.10CIA-1703kagaro * r24730 10TalismongerLib/Talismonger-1.0/Talismonger-1.0.lua: TalismongerLib: added some method comments
02:33.11durcynkenlyric|home: they were competing with Coors, Natural Light, and Pearl.
02:33.17bigzerotestify, probably not then lol
02:33.21WobWork><
02:33.26testifybleh
02:33.36WobWorkodd, it should
02:33.41ckknightkagaro: what's Talismonger?
02:33.52cynyrdurcyn: don't forget bush light and milwalkie's best
02:34.02testifymight be why BT3 isn't working, but it's hard to believe that the first thing I check is actually the cause of the problem
02:34.06kagaroi moved the skill minimum and isnode functions out of babble fish, herb and ore and moved them to talismonger
02:34.06kenlyric|homeThe only thing budweiser ever made that was good was the Bud Bowl, and they haven't done that right in a decade.
02:34.19ckknightkagaro: ah, okay
02:34.23RoartindonMan, the problems with the raid interface are really screwing up the poor guy leading our raid today :)
02:34.35kagaroso now babble-fish/herb/node only contain translations
02:34.45WobWorkThere's a workaround for the raid promotion/etc
02:34.56WobWorkwhere it boots a random member
02:35.14WobWork(note I've just heard about this, never tested it)
02:35.21kagaros/node/ore/
02:35.23NightHawkTheSanethere's a mod on wowi to address that as well
02:35.27NightHawkTheSanelook up BlizzardBugs :P
02:35.39WobWorkapparantly if you use the name with a repeated last letter, it works
02:35.47WobWorkso like I'd be WobWorkk
02:36.07RoartindonWowWork: the raid leader today isn't particularly script adept
02:36.15Roartindonso I'm trying to send him various /script stuff
02:36.23fudditeWobWork:  that works for /promote, but didn't seem to work for /kick
02:36.25WobWorkwell, /promote wobworkk
02:36.26Roartindonyou can use the methods passing in unit ids
02:36.27Roartindonand it works
02:36.29bigzerotestify, wowwiki doesn't say anything about priest forms regarding GetNumGetNumShapeshiftForms()
02:36.50Roartindonso /script PromoteToAssistant("raid3") works
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02:37.01NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6722-BlizzardBugs.html
02:37.05Roartindonjust having to get him to type scripts that convert raid names to unit ids
02:37.11NightHawkTheSanethat should resolve the raid issues
02:37.49NightHawkTheSaneit basically does the name->raid id lookup behind the scenes for you
02:37.54kergothNightHawkTheSane, it was renamed, the blizzardbugs version doesnt work (it gets renamed to blizzardbugs.old, due to its name starting with 'blizzard')
02:37.57cynyrso overall lua seems like bash with a slightly different syntax
02:38.01kergothraidwindowfixes or somesuch now
02:38.14WobWorkit's a bit more sane than bash
02:38.20NightHawkTheSanekergoth: ahh, well i havn't kept up with it, as im not raiding currently. :)
02:38.21kergotha bit?
02:38.26WobWorkless of a full on scripting language
02:38.39kergothwhat do you consider "full on"?
02:38.49WobWorkbash =)
02:39.03kergothbash is shell with hacks.
02:39.06kergothplain and simple
02:39.37cynyrNightHawkTheSane: same here till my guild is back to lvl 70
02:39.56NightHawkTheSanecynyr: yup, same
02:40.02cynyrWobWork: and yes it does seem more "sane"
02:40.15cynyrNightHawkTheSane: haven't been raiding since mid november :(
02:40.47sbuuhm - i heard that there are also problems w/ masterlooter and assigning items
02:40.47WobWorkCoding in bash always gave me the feeling of walking on the edge of a veeery high cliff
02:40.58steevzsh ftw
02:41.09sbushould't affect xmasterloot then i guess?
02:41.14WobWorkworking with any shellscript basically
02:41.18cynyrsteev: i've thought about playing with fish...
02:41.23NightHawkTheSanecynyr: :\ we stopped raiding after the 2.0 patch. We were only just starting BWL, so it was like screw it.. not worth the effort. :P
02:41.32WobWorkcynyr: Do you have a 3 of clubs?
02:41.35testifybigzero: yeah looks like he actually accomodated for that
02:41.39Sincerityanyone know how to set the mount outfit in CloestGnome?
02:41.41steevcynyr: i didn't like it
02:41.41cynyrNightHawkTheSane: ahh we were in Nax
02:41.45steevdonnie does though
02:41.51cynyrWobWork: no...
02:41.55cynyrsteev: yea i saw
02:41.55kenlyric|homeat least you got to choose to stop raiding.
02:42.00WobWorkSincerity: Just set an outfit named 'Mount'
02:42.03kagarokergoth: youve done a lot of metatable coding right ?
02:42.04steevcan someone fix HealOrganizer?
02:42.11VelkynSincerity: Just make a set called "Mount" and it will find it.
02:42.11Sinceritythanks WobWork =)
02:42.14kenlyric|homemost guilds stopped raiding on my server because half their members were pvping.
02:42.17Velkyn<--- slow
02:42.17steevwhereby fix i mean fix the externals
02:42.19cynyrWobWork: lol
02:42.47cynyrkenlyric|home: we stopped long before that.. people have been raiding in my guld since 1.0
02:42.50cynyrguild
02:42.58WobWork=(
02:43.24kenlyric|homecouple of naxx guilds kept going. They had more motivation :)
02:44.04WobWorkeveryone else is "OMG, TBC greenz"
02:44.12kenlyric|homebut nothing died like AQ40. I'm not sure anyone even zoned in there the past month.
02:44.16cynyrkenlyric|home: we were the #2 guild on my server.. and people didn't see the point when the 62+ 5mans were gonna give better/same loot
02:44.32kenlyric|homethe AQ40 guilds could only gather up alts strong enough to do BWL, it seemed.
02:44.40WogroiplClosetGnome Mount gives an error when loading
02:45.04WobWorkWogroipl: What sort of error?
02:45.15steevi keep getting stuck on the edge of the boat
02:45.21WobWorkwe need a bot named wow
02:45.25WobWorkso we can abuse it
02:45.34kenlyric|homebots are bad.
02:45.34cynyrsteev: my GF's lappy does that to her too
02:45.36kenlyric|homeTrust me on this one.
02:45.41WobWorkmmkay?
02:45.47WobWorkI dunno
02:46.07cynyr!botsnack purl
02:46.15WobWork~botsnack
02:46.15purlWobWork: aw, gee
02:46.15cynyr~botsnack purl
02:46.16purlcynyr: thanks
02:46.17Vanished|Awaycynyr: your GF's lap does that t me too.. wait...
02:46.24WogroiplWobWork: http://ace.pastey.net/4928
02:46.30kenlyric|homeircbots are ok, I suppose.
02:46.34cynyrVanished|Away: lol, yea.. sure
02:46.38Vanished|Away;D
02:46.41kenlyric|homeI was always a fan of W, X's little brother on undernet.
02:46.52kenlyric|homepoor abused W. All the work, none of the glory.
02:47.24trhkenlyric|home: you like "dabya"? ;)
02:47.25WobWorkWogroipl: =\
02:47.40ravagernlkirkburn about that outline again, werent there two sorts, thick and thin? SCT uses them also
02:47.50WobWorkI wouldn't be able to say offhand. Y'sure you have the latest version?
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02:48.18KirkburnThere are indeed two sorts
02:48.27WobWork278 people
02:48.29KirkburnThey're OUTLINE and THICKOUTLINE
02:50.10ravagernlah I see, I thought outline was the thick variant :P
02:50.17WogroiplWobWork: I have revision 24694
02:50.47Wogroiplof CG_mount that is
02:51.36ravagernlHmm, then what is the argument after the style, called monochrome
02:53.52CIA-1703kagaro * r24731 10TalismongerLib/Talismonger-1.0/Talismonger-1.0.lua: TalismongerLib: set weak keys
02:55.04kagarokergoth: ping
02:55.11cynyrwait 0==true and 1==true? in lua for a function return?
02:55.33Fisker-btw why haven't anyone put in Eye of the storm weekend? :P
02:55.52Nargiddleyfalse and nil are the only things that are false in lua, everything else is true
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02:56.25cynyrokay, is there a way to print with out the ending \n?
02:56.46art3misbooo aguf is broken
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02:57.02art3misnothing says fun like going to mc without being able to see any names ;P
02:57.44cynyri always go to MC with out names... my main is a rogue, what do i care who is low on health
02:58.00art3misheh im a priest
02:58.11cynyrthat would be a problem then
02:58.15art3misit drastically hinders my policy of not healing morons who irritate me ;P
02:58.21KarlThePaganignore everyone except the tank imo
02:58.23AmadeoHow do you Linux WoW gamers deal with the flashing mouse cursor every time you move it?
02:58.32KarlThePaganonly noobs and tanks take damage in mc
02:58.40art3missame way they dealt with years of chastizement and non working drivers ;P
02:59.00cynyrAmadeo: we don't use D3D
02:59.03trhKarlThePagan: there are fights where its nearly impossible to avoid it completly
02:59.04art3misthey become all zealoty and emo-ish ;P
02:59.10Amadeocynyr: It happens in OpenGL
02:59.14CIA-1703fleetfoot * r24732 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.lua:
02:59.14CIA-17LittleTrouble:
02:59.14CIA-17- Fixed problem with locking bar
02:59.18cynyrAmadeo: not here...
02:59.22art3mishrm
02:59.37art3misim thinking maybe i need to make a new custom ui for myself since mazzle is taking too long
02:59.51AmadeoWhen I ran OpenGL in Windows, I had the flashing cursor...now I'm trying it in Linux, same thing
02:59.54art3misi suck at lua though
02:59.56cynyrart3mis: /shakefist, zealot i'm okay with, but emo??!!
03:00.01art3mislaugh
03:00.05cynyrAmadeo: vid card?
03:00.08art3misim in bed with the daemon cyn ;)
03:00.11AmadeoNvidia 6600GT
03:00.16fudditeAmadeo: You might try fiddling with the "Hardware Cursor" option.
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03:00.27art3misyou penguin lovers will all perish in an inferno at some point ;)
03:00.38Amadeofuddite: I'm going to mess with it in a bit, I'm patching...just playing around :)
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03:00.50cynyrAmadeo: same here? which version of wine and the drivers?
03:00.55art3misanyone wanna make me an addon installer based on class and tick buttons?
03:00.56KarlThePagantrh, yea ;) a few
03:01.03art3misthat can be setup and run in game?
03:01.08Amadeocynyr: Should be the latest
03:01.16kenlyric|homeheh, I'd say about half the fights contain some sort of random or aoe damage.
03:01.26cynyrart3mis: just a few seconds after the windows users ;P
03:01.38cynyrAmadeo: should be ~= are
03:01.42KarlThePaganyou can keep yourself alive tho for the most part
03:02.06AmadeoLinux is pretty cool, it has a lot of advantages...also a lot of disadvantages...I'm not sure I could use it as a primary desktop OS
03:02.09kenlyric|homeyeah, that's true.
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03:02.26KarlThePagani think gehennas and rag are the 2 ones where random classes take the most damage no matter how good they are
03:02.30cynyrAmadeo: my desktop doesn't even have windows installed on it...
03:02.30kenlyric|homethough you're somewhat at the mercy of how randomly you receive shadowbolts from gehennas.
03:02.39KarlThePaganyea
03:02.41art3misnix is great
03:02.43Amadeocynyr: I'm not saying it's impossible, just not ideal for me
03:02.48art3misdebian +wine == goodness
03:02.49kenlyric|homeand if your dispellers suck on luci.
03:02.51cynyrAmadeo: to each his own
03:02.53art3mismmmm,mm wine
03:02.57KarlThePagantru
03:03.17kenlyric|homestuff like baron though, it's fun to let rogues die ;)
03:03.20art3misso how about it
03:03.26art3miswhos a really good wowace coder ;P
03:03.31Fisker-Anyone know a site where you can find out what the different ratings are at what level?
03:03.33art3misi want a spiffy addon thingy ;P
03:03.34kenlyric|homelike the constructs in AQ40 when they have thorns.
03:03.43art3misratings how?
03:03.52art3mislike built in crit hit dodge etc based on char levl?
03:04.37kenlyric|homeany fubar mods which can show me my time to wait for a BG?
03:04.45kenlyric|homeessentially the info I get from the pvp icon, without having to hover over it.
03:04.56gxambattlegroundfu
03:04.58gxamdoes that i think
03:04.58fudditekenlyric|home: BattlegroundFu
03:05.01art3misnah wait times are blizz maded and not all that accurate anyways
03:05.05kenlyric|homeok. I have honorfu.
03:05.14Amadeocynyr: I'm surprised that apps like Gaim use more memory in Linux than Windows
03:05.28kenlyric|homeyeah, but they're pretty close...within 5 minutes usually.
03:05.30cynyrAmadeo: yes, but that number is misleading
03:05.31Sinceritycould someone please assist me with disabling the cloestgnome messages which appear in the chat box everytime you switch outfit?
03:05.32art3misoh btw whos the site owner?
03:05.33fudditeThere is some crossover between the two, I have them both myself.
03:05.34Ordoghm can i hide the blizz castbar with some option?
03:05.42Ordogor do i need a supressing addon ?
03:05.54art3misi got some BW kicking around that i can share i think
03:05.59cynyrAmadeo: that number has all the shared libs in it too...
03:06.23Amadeocynyr: That's the same with Windows + GTK+
03:06.26cynyrOrdog: i think aguf hids it...
03:06.30cynyrAmadeo: yes
03:06.52testifyAre there any ace action bar addons other tahn bartender?
03:06.56cynyrAmadeo: just that it probably has evolution intagration, dbus, hal, etc
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03:07.06durcyntestify: Bongos
03:07.08AmadeoI see
03:07.31fudditedurcyn: I don't think Bongos is Ace, is it?
03:07.39AmadeoIt's not
03:07.40testifyBongos uses ace but doesn't use the site?
03:07.43testifyoh
03:07.44AmadeoBut Bongos rocks :)
03:08.04fudditeAye, so I hear.  Tuller has made some genius mods.
03:08.12ScoobeAnyone use Musicstream?
03:08.13testifymeh I guess I'll give it a go
03:08.21durcynfuddite: nope, but what's that matter?
03:08.30testifybartender just owned my fun for the night
03:08.43Fisker-art3mis like "how much is 14 crit rating for level 10"
03:08.44Fisker-and such
03:08.47art3miswhats the SF link for the wowace updater?
03:08.56fudditedurcyn: The man asked for an Ace bar mod, that's all...
03:08.59art3misthers an addon called ratingsbuster
03:09.00sbuhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
03:09.02art3misthatll tell ya
03:09.07sbu~WAU
03:09.10art3misthanks
03:09.13sbu!WAU
03:09.14sbumh
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03:09.20durcynoh, missed that part. blah.
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03:09.33Arrowmaster~wowaceupdater
03:09.34purlit has been said that wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
03:09.34cynyrAmadeo: dubs is the mesage bus, evolution is the gnome mail client, hal is the hardware apbstraction layer, all are mostly very small tools to do 1 thing
03:09.42sbuArrowmaster: gnnl :)
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03:09.49Arrowmaster~winaceupdater
03:09.58AmadeoDo I have to run Evolution? I just tried to remove it and it said other apps rely on it
03:10.06kenlyric|homeevolution a small tool?
03:10.07cynyrcould someone explain "while a[i] do" to me?
03:10.11VelkynSo is one "frame" using 5182KiB as reported by teksupport bad?
03:10.14kenlyric|homethat warps my reality.
03:10.40cynyrAmadeo: well actully gaim uses the evolutin data server, and we are waaayyy offtopic for this room
03:10.58cynyrkenlyric|home: i said for the most part
03:11.20AmadeoI think the channel would be dead if it was code-only :)
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03:11.34nymbiacynyr: while the value of a[i] isnt false or nil, repeat.
03:11.45fudditeVelkyn: I guess that depends which frame it is and whether that is the total or average mem usage per event.
03:11.47cynyrAmadeo: yea.. but thats a much better question for #linux
03:11.48art3misnymbia?
03:11.53art3misas in nymbia unitframes?
03:11.58nymbiayup
03:11.58cynyrnymbia: a[i] beinga table lookup?
03:12.00art3misgroovy
03:12.03nymbiacynyr: yup
03:12.04art3misi used to use those
03:12.07nymbia;)
03:12.28art3miscant remember what bugged me aboot them though
03:12.28cynyrnymbia: okay, thanks, this walkthru missed a setp methinks
03:12.30nymbiacynyr: it happens ;)
03:12.31art3mishave you all see mazzleui?
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03:12.46Amadeocynyr: I'm not fond of Linux help channels, where they're supposed to be there to help, but they tell you to read manuals and show off how awesome they are :P
03:13.24art3miscuz i'd love for someone to make up an addon installer that did a few things for me in game.
03:13.31Arrowmasterbut most things are in the manuals
03:13.32trhAmadeo: that's the reason why linux doesn't gets enduser compatible... most devs just don't care :)
03:13.33cynyrAmadeo: you could try #gentoo, i've gotten good help there.. but unfortionitly the linux learning curve is steap
03:13.55fudditeAmadeo:  Complete constrast to official tech support, who don't know what they're talking about and waffle rubbish on your bill ;)
03:14.08Kaeltenserver is back online
03:14.12Kaeltenwith php
03:14.18cynyrAmadeo: and like Arrowmaster said most of the stuff is in the man pages.. you just have to figure them out
03:14.31Amadeotrh: I partially agree, I think that aside from better hardware support, it's the older community that holds it back from becoming more widespread
03:14.39Wogroipl<PROTECTED>
03:14.51AmadeoBut you can see that things are trying to change
03:14.52KarlThePagan<3
03:16.28cynyrAmadeo: hardware support? offical maunufacture support? or having it work?
03:16.40Amadeocynyr: both would be great :)
03:16.51art3misfirst it checks if its a fresh install. then it asks you a fwe questions like if you pvp gets what profs you have, what class you are and what spec. then it gives you a list of addosn that arent class specific(as in not including shardtracker if you arent a mage) then allows you to tick each one with a hover over explainign what it does. once you're finished all the stuff it writes the dirs to the addons folder and runs wowaceupdate. when
03:16.51Amadeoand by work, I would mean...to its full extent
03:16.58trhcynyr: if it works its usually too complex to setup :)
03:17.04cynyrAmadeo: have you tried installing windows without driver disks, from a retail copy of windows?
03:17.04art3misany chance someone could make something like that for me?
03:17.07VelkynCan somone tell me what "mem/exec" is in teksupport?
03:17.13Amadeocynyr: That's not what I'm talking about
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03:17.42trhcynyr: actually that works pretty well (windows without driver disks)
03:17.48trhcynyr: except for s-ata harddisks
03:18.27AmadeoIt depends what hardware you have...I normally have to install video and network card drivers in Windows before its fully functional for me, aside from updates to software
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03:19.13cynyrtrh: try getting an intell pro wired card in a IBM lappy working...
03:19.39cynyrtrh: mind you the only way i have to get drivers is the network card
03:19.44fuddite|afkVelkyn: There is a useful page on tekSupport on the wowace wiki, here is google's cache of it (beware, links don't work): http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Y6Wijd8heLYJ:www.wowace.com/wiki/TekSupport+tekSupport+addon&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
03:19.49trhcynyr: usb sticks ftw :)
03:19.52art3misaww no-one answered me ;(
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03:20.17cynyrtrh: thats what i do.. i'm glad windows doesn't need 3rd party usb mass storage drivers
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03:20.32Amadeoart3mis: That seems pretty difficult :)
03:20.44PogoTribalHas ag_UF been revised today?
03:20.52kenlyric|homecommon driver interface ftw. If only more hardware worked that way.
03:20.55Fisker-So noone knows where i can read about ratings for all levels?
03:21.04Amadeokenlyric|home: agreed
03:21.20trhkenlyric|home: yea.. i guess some kind of meta-language for drivers that would get compiled into native code would be awesome
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03:21.48AmadeoRight now, I'm not really sure where to start in order to get my headset working properly
03:21.48cynyraltough i find it funny i plug a new usb stick into my lappy running windows and it takes 30+ seconds to show up.. and i do the same in linux, and like 1-2 seconds it's got an icon on my desktop
03:21.53fuddite|afkFisker-:  All I know about that is that your total bonus rating is converted to a percentage for your level in the tooltips on you character sheet.
03:21.54art3misit may be difficult but mazzle made it for her ui without the "only download what you need" portion
03:22.09art3misand i think it would be handy
03:22.23trhcynyr: if i plug in a usb stick here it does take 1-3 sec only (on windows)
03:22.32trhcynyr: on linux the computer crashes :)
03:22.32art3misya know what else would be handy?
03:22.54art3misif the zip files had a "what the hell is this addon about" description txt ;)
03:23.06cynyrtrh: ?? it's 1-3 seconds if i have plugged that exact stick in before
03:23.12WobWorkA program to punch people over the internet?
03:23.15WobWorkI'd pay for that
03:23.16art3miswhen the full website isnt running the brief descriptions dont explain all that much ;P
03:23.28trhart3mis: back in the old days there was a "file_id.diz" :)
03:23.33art3misyeah
03:23.37art3misi long for those days ;P
03:23.38cynyrWobWork: WTB [A program to punch people over the internet] 300000G
03:24.03trhcynyr: uh yeah.. but how many different sticks you got? :)
03:24.20AmadeoMy biggest problem with Windows is that the system just totally degrades over time..depending on if you try out a lot of software and stuff like I do..eventually, it's just going to be slow, lots of little errors that have come from software, etc
03:24.33kenlyric|homeluckily, you mostly can get anyone to click on anything, so email them a link to a bot network infection site.
03:24.42kenlyric|homethat's like kicking them.
03:24.57cynyrAmadeo: my windows installs last about 6-9 months tops.. this gentoo install on my desktop is from like 2002
03:24.58trhAmadeo: actually you get the same problem under linux if you don't install via the package management
03:25.22kenlyric|homeI love re-installing windows. It's a sickness.
03:25.27Klazarwhy is cartographer looking for fishfinder? keep getting that in my bugbag.. I tried adding the fishing cart mod but that didnt seem to help
03:25.38Amadeokenlyric|home: That's because when you reinstall, it feels so fast :D
03:25.42trhuh.. my windows runs since a few years without reinstall :)
03:25.42kenlyric|hometrh: sure would be nice if windows had a unified architecture for software installs.
03:26.05Ordogcan i hide the blizz castbar without a supressing addon?
03:26.10trhbut as far as i read that bloating problem gets solved partially with vista
03:26.12AmadeoI need a Mac now to mess with OS X, see how that does over a long period of time
03:26.14kenlyric|homeusually I re-install windows because I try linux for a few weeks, find some game that just won't work, and then go back.
03:26.15art3misi have a fbsd install on my laptop whats 3.2 ;P
03:26.23grennonfinally a night off from raiding so i can work on postal
03:26.24Chomperswhats unified architecture?
03:26.34Chompersa template ?
03:26.35art3misvista is shit
03:26.37art3misplain and simple
03:26.40trhkenlyric|home: well i partitioned my harddisk to use both parallel ;)
03:26.53AmadeoMy main problem with Vista is the price, it's kind of silly
03:26.59trhart3mis: thats prejudice
03:27.01art3misits a horrible ugly win32 mac clone thats all slow and bloaty
03:27.12art3misive run it on my laptop since it first hit beta
03:27.12trhAmadeo: msdnaa ftw ;)
03:27.16cynyrart3mis: shit == good? or == "i wouldn't fsck the panda with kowala's disk"?
03:27.26art3mis<---pp/ap
03:27.29Klazarkenlyric|home: nab a cheap Sparc machine off ebay and run solaris
03:27.38Ordoghavent reinstalled since 17th october 2004 21:11
03:27.46kenlyric|homevista is fine if you have the ram. I could do wow in windowed mode in Vista, but it ate Half Life 2: Episode 1 alive.
03:27.52trhart3mis: i wouldn't call MacOS X fast either :)
03:27.53art3misshit as in you'd get more reasonable performance from it if you just lit yer computer on fire and smashed it with a hammer
03:28.01art3misi still run win2k
03:28.05kenlyric|homeI have a sun on my desk at work. I should do something with it.
03:28.07AmadeoEveryone copies off each other in the software industry, so I don't think it's realistic to say one person copied another...since they all copy each other
03:28.09art3misas far as ms is concerned its still the best os
03:28.13Klazarlol
03:28.22cynyrkenlyric|home: what i don't like is all the audio/video degrading it does of "preimium" content
03:28.23WobWorkkenlyric: Form your own solar system?
03:28.38art3misWobWork: he's already orbitting it......just barely
03:28.39Klazarsolaris10 is very nice
03:28.41art3mis;)
03:28.52trhkenlyric|home: what about tanning with the sun? :P
03:29.01Klazarand opensolaris is right here on freenode
03:29.03Arrowmasteri didnt think it did audio/video degrading
03:29.10Ordogi once tried to render an industry scale car model (minicooper) on a sun machine with 8gb ... wasnt faster than my 2100+ with 1 gig ^^
03:29.15AntiarcAny Sanity users have an issue with bank data not showing up at all in the last 24 hours?
03:29.16Arrowmasterjust required you to use HDMI connections
03:29.21AntiarcI had someone report it, trying to get more data points.
03:29.31trhthat whole drm/hd-ready/hdmi stuff is making me sick :(
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03:29.44Arrowmasteryeah
03:29.49kenlyric|homeAntiarc: sorry, I haven't updated since before the patch.
03:30.11Arrowmasterespecially since the hd-dvd's will run perfectly fine in linux
03:30.27Arrowmasteror atleast should since the drm has already been broken =)
03:30.40cynyrtrh: same, i bought the damn video let me play it in privet how ever the fuck i want kthxbai
03:30.48Vanished|AwayKaelten: Ping
03:30.52Kyle___I just wanted to pop in and say that, as of Bartender3 rev 24682 I'm still having paging issues with druid stances (only bear stance is in the list, and the "Disabled Stances" option menu is missing)
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03:31.21VelkynAnyone heard of a mod that spawns a nasty little voice that says "fatality" while in game?
03:31.21kenlyric|homecynyr: you're thinking about it too rationally. You bought permission to use the video as they see fit.
03:31.38kenlyric|homeFATALITY
03:31.57kenlyric|homeVelkyn: that's your bug grabber, grabbing a bug, throwing it in a sack. YOu can turn it off.
03:31.59WobWorkVelkyn: BugSack
03:32.04Velkynwow.
03:32.16WobWorkI'm so going to change that to the murloc gurgle and freak out hundreds of users
03:32.19Velkyn500 some odd bugs... not bad.
03:32.23cynyrkenlyric|home: see and thats where wedissagree.. then on the out side of the box, there needs to be something stating that this a not a purcase, more of a one time payed lease
03:32.26NightHawkTheSaneWobWork: do it. :)
03:32.34kenlyric|homeI once had a runaway error with sanity when it got confused at my bank... unending stream of errors. Fatality until I went crazy.
03:32.56VelkynYeah thats what happened..
03:33.13cynyrkenlyric|home: and as far as i'm concered, watching the vid upside down in greyscale while eating fudge, in my bathroom is inside fair use
03:33.38kenlyric|homecynyr: I didn't say I agree with it. I'm saying that's how they see it. That's how the law sees it. You buy the disc, but you don't own the content.
03:33.43Vanishcynyr: Nope. Has to be right-side up
03:33.52cynyrVanish: lol
03:34.27cynyrkenlyric|home: i know you didn't, just saying, i'll probably be using libcss2 or whatever in about 2 months
03:34.59VelkynAnyone able to give me a quick run down on "teksupport" like how to use it to figure out what needs the boot?
03:35.21VanishWait.. Teksupport has a use?!?
03:35.49kenlyric|homecynyr: I'm a big fan of ripping off dvds. Thank the lord for netflix!
03:36.20cynyrkenlyric|home: lol, see now that is breaking copyright law..
03:36.22kenlyric|homeI need a few terabyte raid so I can rip them to files.
03:36.32kenlyric|homecynyr: I do what I can.
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03:37.05NightHawkTheSanekenlyric|home: nah, just burn them to your own dvds. :P
03:37.08kenlyric|homeactually, I don't much mind buying most DVDs. But some of the TV shows are just outrageously priced.
03:37.10cynyrkenlyric|home: see i have too much vested interest in copyright law, as that is basicly the only thing keeping the GPL working
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03:37.46kenlyric|homeone hour long drama with 24 episodes in a season costs $39.99, and the other costs $129.99. and the first one has actual bonus features. It makes no sense.
03:38.10VanishCopyright law is 'A Good THing' (tm) ... it's just implemented and enforced wrong
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03:38.31NightHawkTheSanekenlyric|home: things like that are often a matter of demand/popularity
03:38.43kenlyric|homewarez games have made me purchase more games then I ever would have on my own.
03:38.52Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Resilience <-Ratings explained, now make me an addon lol
03:38.53Fisker-:P
03:39.02NightHawkTheSanehell, Firefly is 14 episodes and it's $60, which is absurd.
03:39.12kenlyric|homeNightHawkTheSane: I don't buy it. Buffy vs The X-Files. I want them both the same.
03:39.16kenlyric|homeFirefly cost you $60?
03:39.24NightHawkTheSaneyep
03:39.30kenlyric|homeis that canadian funny money?
03:39.32NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: RatingsBuster
03:39.36Brunerswhere can i find the av_pre_enabler?
03:39.36NightHawkTheSanei wish. ><
03:39.49Fisker-saw it, but it doesn't allow me to specify levels :(
03:39.56NightHawkTheSaneor maybe it was $50.. *shrug*
03:39.57Fisker-atleast it doesn't look like it
03:40.11Arrowmasterit does
03:40.15NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: what do you mean specify level? like a target level to compare against? it does.
03:40.22Fisker-nice
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03:40.34kenlyric|homeplus, DVDs are horribly authored. Your 20 second animated menu is cute the first time, but not the 20th. Another fine use of dvd decryptor.
03:40.53NightHawkTheSanekenlyric|home: agreed.
03:41.29Arrowmastermy biggest problem with DVDs is the noskip flag or whatever it is they included for the FBI warnings
03:41.41kenlyric|homeSo nice to pop a DVD, do nothing, and have it play 4 or 8 episodes without touching it.
03:41.46Arrowmasterit gets abused too fucking much
03:42.04NightHawkTheSaneYeah, they use it for previews now. ><
03:42.10kenlyric|homeyeah, like half the fox dvds where you can't skip any of the three warnings or the two fox logos.
03:42.16VanishWhat's with this BuffGnome?
03:42.41NightHawkTheSaneI like playing dvds like that on my mac, after the first time i play it, the player remembers the position in the disk on subsequent plays and can automagically go there.
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03:42.47kenlyric|homeI also like removing the opening and closing credits. Again, nice to see once, but it gets old fast.
03:42.47Arrowmastermy mom bought a dvd that had 10 FUCKING MINUTES of previews you couldnt skip
03:42.48cynyrArrowmaster: hmm whats that? i'ven't seen one of those in a while...
03:43.04kenlyric|homedang, that sounds nice. I bet linux can do the same thing.
03:43.18NightHawkTheSaneYeah, i don't see why not.
03:43.21kenlyric|homeI need to use a computer for my TV dvd player and ditch the box.
03:43.33NightHawkTheSanekenlyric|home: iTV? :P
03:43.50kenlyric|homeNightHawkTheSane: yes, but also one that would be useful playing games :)
03:43.59NightHawkTheSanehehe
03:44.06kenlyric|homemy roommate has a 67" tv. I wouldn't mind hooking my computer up to that.
03:44.35cynyrkenlyric|home: i bet the dpi on it is horid tho
03:44.41Arrowmasteri need to put XBMC on my spare Xbox and put it in the living room still
03:44.56NightHawkTheSaneMy friend got a 31 inch LCD TV for christmas. He hooked it up to his computer. /jealous
03:45.06Vanishvhaarr: Ping
03:45.17kenlyric|homecynyr... I don't know, the last time I tried at its native resolution (19xx by something else), it looked horrid, but apparently I need to turn off or on interlacing.
03:45.34NightHawkTheSaneon the other hand, with monitors that big, you get serious eye strain just looking from one side to the other
03:46.03Arrowmasterkenlyric|home: what type of tv? crt lcd plasma?
03:46.03cynyrkenlyric|home: probably off, the laptop i'm on irc with has a 100+dpi screen... 1280x768 in a 12" diagnal
03:46.04kenlyric|homedpi isn't so bad at its native resolution, if I can make it work. I believe it's the first 1080p dlp samsung made.
03:46.32kenlyric|home1280x768 on a 12" is too tiny for my eyes.
03:46.45kenlyric|homeunless you jack up the font :)
03:46.46cynyrkenlyric|home: 10pt
03:46.52kenlyric|hometiny.
03:46.59cynyrand sometimes 8pt cause it's still sharp
03:47.32cynyr10pt is to small if most of your text is black text white background.. thats just eyestrain anyways...
03:48.08kenlyric|homethat is true.. most of it is black on white.
03:48.40cynyrkenlyric|home: try grey bg, tan fg, or puple fg and gold bg.
03:49.18kenlyric|homeI just went blind reading those words.
03:52.55kenlyric|homei'd pay good money to see a screenshot of that laptop.
03:53.34cynyrkenlyric|home: mine?
03:54.04cynyrit's a fujitsu p2110
03:54.10kenlyric|homeyeah. I honestly can't picture that kind of resolution on that size of screen.
03:54.15BarbanusSo I'm building an addon that saves the BG scoreboards, cause the one that exists is buggy as hell, and sucks .. so I'm joining BGs and idling, yea... I bet I look good :P
03:54.55kenlyric|homebarbanus: tell them you're there to get tokens for an epic mount :)
03:55.01Barbanushaha yea
03:55.04kenlyric|homethat went over well in the last 10 WSG I did this week.
03:55.19vid`hmm anyone using BT3/cycircled getting a big square around some of the hotkeys? :P
03:55.24Barbanuskenlyric|home, were you coding at the time?
03:55.33kenlyric|homeI got so tired of alliance trying to slow down their losses, I decided I wouldn't add to the problem.
03:55.43kenlyric|homeBarbanus: no, I was talking on irc.
03:55.48BarbanusHeh
03:56.09vid`any spell i cast gets a big square around it :P
03:56.13vid`prob a cycircled bug i guess
03:56.28BarbanusYay, at least wowwiki is working today
03:57.28cynyrdoes n=n++ work in lua?
03:58.17trhcynyr: wheres the sense in that expression? :)
03:58.45cynyrtrh: n = n + 1, to incrment a counter var, for a loop
03:59.04trhcynyr: uhm - thats "n++"?
03:59.29cynyrtrh: like in c++
04:00.09cynyrso that you don't have to type, n = n + 1, or n = n - 1
04:00.34trhim not sure if lua supports ++ and -- =)
04:00.44cynyr|asleeptrh: okay...
04:00.57NightHawkTheSane"n = n++" hm... wouldn't that be equal to n=n+2?
04:01.07JoshBorkeno c++ in lua
04:01.30cynyr|asleepNightHawkTheSane: not in some languges..
04:01.46vhaarrVanish: pong
04:01.58NightHawkTheSanewell, in C it would be. probably in most that support ++ style operation
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04:02.11vhaarrn++ does not work in lua.
04:02.11trh_NightHawkTheSane: what n is after that expression depends on how it executes
04:02.48trh_NightHawkTheSane: its either n = n; n++, or n = n
04:02.57NightHawkTheSanetrh_: True, depending on the execution paths it could be a few things. either way, its probably a terribly formed expression
04:03.07DrZooti see that wowace.com/files has gone back to normal speed
04:03.11trh_NightHawkTheSane: my personal guess is, that its n = n
04:03.25vhaarr|n = n + 1| works fine
04:03.40trh_because usually a expression on the right side gets execeuted fully before the return value is handed on the left side
04:04.03beerkedepends if it parses those lines from l/r or from r/l
04:04.17vhaarrexpressions are parsed and then assigned
04:04.28beerkeso from r/l then :)
04:04.29NightHawkTheSanetrh_: yeah, just tested in php and its n = n
04:04.36vid`anyone use http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3341.0 yet?
04:04.40vid`instead of wau
04:04.40trh_i'm gonna check it in c =)
04:05.05WobWorkoh man
04:05.06WobWorkwe're back
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04:05.45trh_in gcc its n++ :)
04:06.09NightHawkTheSaneinteresting
04:06.15Prophwhats difference?? from WAU and WUU ??
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04:09.55WobWorkyay forums
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04:10.39odixanyone know of a good addon so i can see all of my spells/destruction/inventory @ once
04:11.16CIA-1703murazorz * r24733 10ColaLight/ (ColaLight.toc Core.lua Libs/):
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04:11.54CIA-1703nymbia * r24734 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: GrindStatus: hideWithoutStandby
04:13.27CIA-1703nargiddley * r24735 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Sections no longer update their contents when an item is removed, prevents items jumping around while selling etc.
04:16.01vhaarr~seen tekkub
04:16.24purltekkub <n=tekkub@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 41m 14s ago, saying: 'and now I go to bed'.
04:16.33grennonsylvanaar: you round?
04:16.46WobWorkat least that's not an ambigious last message =P
04:17.19Vanishvhaarr: What's the new Gnome do?
04:17.25vhaarr^^
04:17.36vhaarrVanish: Try it and see.
04:17.48VanishI will. I'm busy making icons for MAU at the moment though
04:18.44Yinchieanyone having the issue when using latest autobar + bartender3 + cycircled, that the bartender buttons has a sqaure black background behind the buttons?
04:18.54vid`yep
04:18.56vhaarrVanish: It gives you a confirmation dialog before removing the buffs you set up.
04:19.05vid`yinchie i think its a bug with cycircled
04:19.07vid`shrug
04:19.10Yinchie:/
04:19.13VanishOh. Hmmm
04:19.19NayonHow Come every time I try to do an SVN Checkout it screams at me no such revision exists..
04:19.26vid`if you change it from serenity to sprocket etc
04:19.32vid`the squares go away
04:19.38BarbanusNayon, svn mirrors are probably out of sync
04:19.38vid`but they come back again as soon as you cast a spell etc
04:20.00Yinchiehope it gets fixed soon :)
04:20.05Yinchiekinda.. ugly this way ^^
04:20.09vid`yea
04:20.16vid`it was okay until the 2.0.3 vers
04:20.17Yinchiemade me disable autobar
04:20.20vid`was working fine 2 days ago
04:20.28vid`with out of date enabled
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04:20.38vid`i just updated it like 10 mins ago and noticed it :P
04:20.44vid`no biggie im barely playing atm
04:20.46NayonBarbanus, How long does it seem to take to sync I have 2 more addons to get and I can finaly go play :|
04:20.59Yinchievid`: its no problem, just a annoyance :)
04:21.41BarbanusNayon, I dunno, depends on if there is a problem with the svn servers, or if they are just out of sync because one is lagging a bit
04:21.41BarbanusI dont know which is the case
04:21.41vhaarrVanish: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4087
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04:22.17vid`vhaarr: whats it prompt you before removing a buff?
04:22.30vhaarrvid`: It's a secret :)
04:22.36vid`hehe
04:23.04vid`gnome comes out and beats you to death with mouse for being a moron and trying to click off your buffs?!
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04:23.43vid`man newegg.com still has 500gb seagate hd's for $140
04:23.46vid`wish i had money atm
04:23.50vid`i'd buy 2 of em
04:24.35BarbanusHmmmm is svn1 completely down for anyone else?
04:24.59NayonYea It is still screaming at me about revisions not existing -_-
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04:27.22cogwheelIs there any generic documentation on profiles for users? I'd rather not have to maintain my own per addon
04:29.33doxxxcogwheel: are you talking about ace2 profiles or just the concept of profiles in general?
04:29.50cogwheelace2 profiles... especially the /addon profile command
04:29.50AntiarcIf you use aceDB, profile stuff is done automatically
04:30.11doxxxhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0
04:30.24doxxxThat's got all the stuff about profiles in ace2
04:30.53doxxxohhhh
04:30.59doxxxhmm
04:31.05CIA-1703sayclub * r24736 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames : Update locals koKR
04:31.33doxxxThere's docs in the slash command itself...
04:31.57cogwheelit's for my readme... was hoping i could just stick a link to some wowace.com page
04:32.11doxxxbut otherwise, I don't think there's any documentation of slash commands on the wiki
04:32.37doxxxa search for 'profile' doesn't come up with anything useful
04:32.55cogwheeli noticed :)
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04:33.12PogoTribalIs ag_UF's castbars working correctly?
04:34.58cogwheelfor instance, WTF is the difference between    profile choose    and     profile other?  The descriptions are "Choose a profile" and "Choose another profile", respectively :S
04:35.56doxxxchoose other allows you to have named profiles
04:36.07doxxxinstead of one of the predefined ones like char or class
04:36.31doxxxthis is more obvious if you use Fubar since the option there has a textbox next to it ;)
04:36.43Yinchieanyone got the problem with ag_UF that when you are in a party and join a battleground - you get to join a raid group too while staying in your normal party but that normal party frames disappear and after the battleground the raid windows actually stay instead returning the normal party frames.
04:38.07CIA-1703karlthepagan * r24737 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):
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04:38.23KarlThePagan~seen Elkano
04:38.47purlelkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-184.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 9h 37m 16s ago, saying: 'never trust any votes you didn't fake yourself'.
04:38.47KarlThePaganEVERYONE test plx!! ^^^^^^^
04:38.47KarlThePagan<3
04:38.52KarlThePagangetting very close to full functionality
04:38.52CIA-1703arjuna * r24738 10simpleMinimap/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
04:38.52CIA-17simpleMinimap:
04:38.52CIA-17- enable/disable works (better)
04:38.52CIA-17- skins button math overwrites SMM core's (bypasses redundant function calls)
04:38.52CIA-17- odds and ends
04:40.08CIA-1703beerke * r24739 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua:
04:40.08CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0
04:40.08CIA-17- Added 11444:2148 Grim Guzzler Boar to Food - Meat
04:40.48grennoninteresting
04:41.02Barbanuswoot, got 5 capped in AB
04:41.04doxxxwhat is grouper?
04:41.23NightHawkTheSanea type of fish, i believe.
04:41.35grennonif i hook the onchar script for the sendmail frame To: edit box, and have it spit out the characters to the console before hooking back
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04:41.50grennoni can make it spit out any letter i type in but i cant get "UP" "DOWN"
04:41.57grennonwhich onchar is supposed to give me
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04:43.24Fisker-hoho
04:43.31Fisker-Firefox3 is codenamed "Minefield"
04:43.34Fisker-suitable name
04:44.10Fisker-bbl
04:44.52BarbanusMan, I really like Ace2
04:45.02BarbanusFirst time I have really jumped into it and started coding
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04:49.09CIA-1703murazorz * r24740 10ColaMachine/ (. ColaMachine.toc Core.lua GPL.txt LICENSE.txt):
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04:51.49CIA-1703grennon * r24741 10Postal/Postal_DejaVu/Postal_DejaVu.lua: Postal: -Added 15 Sendee memory to Posta_DejaVu, use Up/Down Arrow to navigate history
04:52.31grennonsnap
04:52.57ThorgardOh.
04:53.38grennontoo bad its only session persistent at the moment, but it doesnt add any alterations to the mailframe gui so it plays nice with skins and such
04:55.29PogoTribalI want that mailmod that let you create a send list of certain guild members by ranks/levels/classes and such.
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04:58.08vid`ew
04:58.11vid`WUU downloads libs
04:58.13vid`doh
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05:06.52sylvanaargrennon: yeah
05:07.11VanishNow Tekkub is here....
05:07.12CIA-1703gamefaq * r24742 10Prat/ (Prat.lua PratFu.lua): Prat: Updated deDE Translation
05:07.28VanishWasted a perfectly good joke earlier when he was gone
05:10.13BarbanusTotally noob question, I have a mod I am working on, I type '/cmd standby' where cmd = my slash command I setup, and it doesnt do anything .. what do I need to make sure I setup for standby to correctly work?
05:10.42Arrowmasterinclude AceDB as a mixin
05:11.43vhaarrstandby only calls OnDisable and all your mixins OnEmbedDisabl
05:11.45vhaarre
05:11.54vhaarrwhich means all events get unregistered and all hooks are cleared
05:11.59vhaarrother than that, your addon works fine
05:13.15VanishI still can't get ag_UF to grow Auras Down/Up
05:13.32PogoTribalok ag's castbars are fucked up in groups and raid windows
05:14.04VanishMine work fine... but then I wrote my own layout...
05:16.10grennonsylvanaar: i had a question about the chatframe editbox and arrow keys, but i figured it out
05:16.20PogoTribalWhat's the command to promote somone to assist in a raid?
05:16.28PogoTribal<PROTECTED>
05:16.29CIA-1703next96 * r24743 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (PartyFrame.lua PlayerFrame.lua TargetFrame.lua ToTFrame.lua):
05:16.29CIA-17SimpleUnitFrames :
05:16.29CIA-17- Update locale koKR
05:17.09PogoTribalAnyone know?
05:17.31Arrowmastertry /script PromoteToAssistant("Namee")
05:18.17grennonsylvanaar: i tried to get clever and hook an onchar script for an editbox so i could check arg1 and scroll through a table of history of up/down arrows
05:18.33grennonsylvanaar: then i figured out the default UI already did that automagically
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05:20.31sylvanaargrennon: ^.^
05:21.07grennonsylvanaar: well, i got confused when my hook for an editgrame just printed arg1 and it did nothing when i hit the arrow keys
05:22.10grennonsylvanaar: finally i read the chatframe lua editbox stuff from blizz and realized what SetHistoryLines did
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05:22.21KarlThePaganoh doxxx Grouper is a LFG enhancement that currently browses and is very close to auto-lfg functionality
05:22.27sylvanaaryep
05:23.28grennonhonestly, i think sethistorylines(15) should be a default for the sendmailnameeditbox
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05:30.20CrisCr0sssholay at not sleeping
05:30.46CIA-1703fatherjim * r24744 10loudmouth/ (loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):
05:30.46CIA-17loudmouth:
05:30.46CIA-17- Added help text to GUI, prior to adding Options tab.
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05:32.26PogoTribalArrowmaster: Thanks, that works.
05:33.00PogoTribalArrowmaster: How about the promote to master looter script?
05:34.04ZealotOnAStickwhat's a good windows tool to create a diff of two files?
05:34.16ZealotOnAStickas tortoisediff apparently only works for images.
05:34.59ZealotOnAStickor is there a suitable web site that would do such?
05:35.43ArrowmasterPogoTribal: /script SetLootMethod("master","Namee") ??
05:35.57sylvanaarwhat?
05:36.13CIA-1703grennon * r24745 10Postal/Postal_DejaVu/Postal_DejaVu.lua: Postal: -One line fix for the new DejuVu history shizz
05:36.16sylvanaaronly = does not?
05:36.17doxxxzealot: tortoisediff should work for text files
05:36.24PogoTribalLooks like I can't use ag_UF for raid frames with the castbar bug
05:36.46PogoTribalBack to CTRA for tonight
05:36.56sylvanaarpurl: tell ZealotOnAStick that i am confused
05:37.26doxxxcheerio
05:37.28sylvanaarpurl: tell <ZealotOnAStick> that i am confused
05:37.31ArrowmasterPogoTribal: your better off without ctra
05:37.36sylvanaari hate her
05:37.43PogoTribalUm, I'm not better of with ag_UF right now.
05:37.47PogoTribalAnd I'm a healer.
05:37.48NightHawkTheSanePogoTribal: there's other raid frames, you know :P
05:37.54PogoTribalok, I need one more script
05:37.57PogoTribalto remove a member
05:38.10sylvanaarpurl: tell ZealotOnAStick about my confusion
05:38.24ArrowmasterUninviteUnit("Namee") if the person is online
05:38.50Arrowmaster"target" might work if they are offline and you target them with your raidframes but im not sure
05:39.12ZealotOnAStickI figured it out.
05:39.19ZealotOnAStickTortoiseDiff ran as an app is for images.
05:39.35ZealotOnAStickto Diff two different files with Tortoise, I have to select both and use the context menu.
05:39.40Arrowmasterhow do you diff an image?
05:39.41sylvanaarpurl: tell ZealotOnAStick about my confusion
05:40.09sylvanaar~sylvanaar
05:40.10purlERROR: stack overflow.
05:40.13ZealotOnAStickpurl, tell sylvanaar about confusion
05:40.26ZealotOnAStickpurl doesn't know anything about confusion.
05:40.34ZealotOnAStick~literal sylvanaar
05:40.35purl"sylvanaar" is "<reply>ERROR: stack overflow."
05:40.36sylvanaarpurl tell purl about confusion
05:40.49Arrowmasterbtw has anybody noticed that Duel() is still protected?
05:40.49ZealotOnAStick~literal confusion
05:40.51purl"confusion" is "you are confusing OP about the issue in question.  /lastlog the nick and make sure you understand the question. a hybrid kind of nuclear fusion involving super transformations of tachyon arrays in subcyberspace the energy therefrom is great enough to power light sabers"
05:41.16ZealotOnAStickpurl, what is confusion?
05:41.19purlZealotOnAStick: what are you talking about?
05:41.30nymbia~confusion
05:41.42nymbiapurl, you suck
05:41.43purlno, *you* suck!
05:41.46ZealotOnAStickgreat, we're going to spam purl.
05:41.49sylvanaar~profusion
05:44.12Arrowmasterhmm what mod is now adding (P) and (E) after player names in chat in bgs?
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05:47.24ZealotOnAStickoh, Nymbia.
05:47.28sylvanaarPrat
05:47.37nymbiaZealotOnAStick: sup
05:47.39sylvanaari been talking about it all week
05:47.41ZealotOnAStickYou missed purl's "I dunno what is 'confusion' because it was in a window to me.
05:47.50ZealotOnAStickalong with "someone already said that 4 seconds ago"
05:47.57nymbiaZealotOnAStick: ah, nice. lol
05:47.59VanishHmmm... Suggestions for where I can paste the error Postal is throwing for Grennon?
05:48.09ZealotOnAStickpastey.net?
05:48.09Arrowmastersylvanaar: is it also adding it to the scoreboard?
05:48.16ZealotOnAStickor pastey.bin if it's an image.
05:48.24sylvanaarNo
05:48.49sylvanaarwhy you gotta post an image?
05:48.52VanishGrennon: http://pastey.net/4937
05:48.54Arrowmasterhmm for some reason all server names are now getting cut off and showing .... on my bg scoreboard
05:49.34sylvanaareverything on the scoreboard is cutoff
05:49.40Arrowmasteryeah i know
05:49.52sylvanaarthats just how it is
05:50.02sylvanaarlike honor numbers
05:50.11sylvanaarfield too small
05:50.26NayonAnyone know what happened to oCB also known as Otravi Casting Bar? It was great but it seems to have disappeared for the SVN
05:50.47nymbiaNayon: haste removed his addons from the svn, find em at fuxsake.net
05:51.07VanishCBRipoff is the same thing and is o SVN
05:52.27durcynArrowmaster: i seem to recall something in the Capping changelog about totalpackage setting that field wider
05:54.04PogoTribalmy unit frames aren't showing the same deficit health as my raid frames
05:54.07PogoTribalthis is fucking retarded
05:57.05sylvanaaryou know what, i can make a server names module because you will only ever see maybe 10 names
05:57.52grennonVanish: i fixed that last commit
06:00.46sylvanaarand, i have the lists prepared already
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06:01.24DhragaMorning
06:05.34sylvanaari dont think i am printing the server text properly
06:10.30durcynhm, site appears to be back.
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06:11.14Arrowmastersylvanaar: servers with two word names seem to not be getting the (E) or (P), that or Lightning's Blade just isnt working
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06:14.41VanishGrennon: Hmm... I tught I had the latest
06:14.51Vanishs/tught/thought
06:14.59grennoni ninja updated it like 5 minutes after
06:15.06Vanishlol
06:15.10grennonone of those brown paper bag commits
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06:27.52BarbanusLOL someone reported me for afking in a BG
06:28.41BarbanusSince I was working on this mod ... and kinda have to be in a BG to test it :P
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06:30.13vid`they cant do anything
06:30.16vid`not illegal to afk in bg's
06:30.27vid`as long a syou are there to a respond to a gm if they question yo
06:31.30Illuminatiany ideas for filtering soulbound items you loot to a treasure bag in baggins without having to filter itemid's for armor I actually use
06:31.52CodayusAh, raiding with applicants, always fun.  Never seen someone use mocking blow to taunt a mob off the MT before, much less two pulls in a row.  oO
06:32.27Illuminatihad that happen on flamegore
06:39.06Barbanusvid`, and that I was
06:42.25grennontonight we did razorgore since we got done in naxx early
06:42.34grennonthe mods kept spawning during phase2
06:42.37grennonmobs*
06:42.42grennonand killed razorgore
06:42.59SprCdrOfEverythiThat happened to my guild yesterday.
06:43.12SprCdrOfEverythiI wasn' there for it, but supposedly the mobs were attacking both the raid and razorgore himself.
06:43.23SprCdrOfEverythiafter they killed him, razogore despawned.. no loot, ftl
06:43.31SprCdrOfEverythibut the gate opened, so they continued on to vael O_O
06:44.30grennonour guys wiped
06:44.37grennonbut got loot sparklies :-)
06:44.45grennonthe mobs finished him off
06:44.49SprCdrOfEverythilol nice.
06:50.42RoartindonYeah, we killed razorgore ~4 hours ago
06:50.45Roartindonand he kept spawning adds
06:50.55Roartindonso the raid zoned out, zoned back in, lootde and moved on
06:51.16SprCdrOfEverythi..how can you zone out, the gate closes?
06:51.23RoartindonIt opens when you kill razorgore
06:51.32RoartindonJust the spawns didn't stop
06:51.35Kadish_http://anubis.case.edu/ace-get.zip
06:51.36Kadish_it
06:51.41Kadish_'s a simple apt-get for ace addons
06:51.48grennonheigans mana burn did indeed have a longer range as well
06:51.59Kadish_drop in your Addons folder and run from the command prompt
06:52.00RoartindonOnly other difference we noticed was the trash between Anub and Faer had new animatinos
06:52.17RoartindonWhich looked kinda cool
06:52.26RoartindonAnd damn being horde and getting so much pally loot in a single bwl run
06:52.45grennonsilly horde, all loot is pally loot
06:52.49SprCdrOfEverythi^^
06:52.56Roartindonmore nexus :(
06:52.59grennonplate, mail, leather, cloth, shields, one hands, two hands
06:53.02SprCdrOfEverythiAt least a good %40 of our loot has been pally recently, it's ridiculous.
06:53.30grennonwait until you get paladins and get the joy of having a healing hybrid that can wear every armor class and thinks they can DPS
06:53.35NightHawkTheSaneKadish_: exe? boo :P
06:53.59Kadish_it's in .net :/
06:53.59vid`grennon: duh, 1 pally is like 5 people
06:54.05Kadish_i'm not a java dood
06:54.35vid`pallies have a new ability called mitosis, they split in half and kick your ass
06:54.38vid`and its on a 5 second cool down
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06:55.03Roartindongrennon: hmm.. sounds fun :)
06:55.10RoartindonBut we have a few guild players rerolling pallies
06:55.19Roartindonand they were healer classes previously, and never took dps caster gear
06:55.47RoartindonSo hopefully it won't be a big problem
06:56.09CIA-1703nargiddley * r24746 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Reverting last change, causes too many problems.
06:56.30NightHawkTheSaneRoartindon: it's probably exacerbate the problem. Suddenly they can equip both caster dps gear AND melee dps gear, and have skills that use it. Not being able to have done it before will make them want to all the more. :P
06:56.37RoartindonFor the past ~30 hours, I've been unable to get dev.wowace.com to resopnd.. any hints on what to fix/do?
06:57.10RoartindonI keep getting things like: svn: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/ag_UnitFrames': Could not read status line: Operation timed out (http://dev.wowace.com)
06:57.21xlviiDoes anyone know what you get 'Grow' from?
06:57.32xlviiIt has a description of All Grown Up
06:57.45Nargiddleywitch doctor at senjin village
06:58.23xlviiNargiddley, thanks.
06:58.39xlviiThere was a Tauren with two of them, Winterfall Firewater and a Elixir of Giant Growth on.
06:58.41NayonHey Wich Fubar Plugin Turned the whole thing into an Experience bar?
06:58.42xlviiHe was HUGE
06:58.50Nargiddleytwo of them oO?
06:59.20xlviiYes, no idea how he got them.
06:59.23Nargiddleyi'm sure it never used to stack with itself
06:59.55NayonGiant Growth and Firewater Don't stack
06:59.57Roartindonxlvii: screenshot!
07:00.29CIA-1703dorje * r24747 10DorjeHealingBars/ (. DorjeHealingBars.lua DorjeHealingBars.toc):
07:00.29CIA-17DorjeHealingBars:
07:00.29CIA-17- mostly bug fix release. Also, as requested, I've included an option to disable
07:00.29CIA-17casting on and by enemy units. This should improve the general performance for
07:00.29CIA-17people with weaker machines. Rechecked the resurrections not showing. Shaman
07:00.30CIA-17issues not resolved yet.
07:00.31NightHawkTheSanexlvii: Sen'jin village
07:00.46NightHawkTheSanexlvii: the witch doctor there casts random spells on you, one of them is that Grow buff.
07:01.14NightHawkTheSaneI'm not aware if they stack, but I'm pretty sure thats what it is.
07:01.26RoartindonNayon: FuBar_XPFu
07:01.39RoartindonOr FuXPFu
07:01.41Roartindoncan't remember
07:01.57NayonThanks As long as I can find either I am happy
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07:07.18Adirellehi
07:07.42AdirelleNargiddley: what kind of trouble caused the changes ?
07:08.20Nargiddleychanged the updating so it diddnt redo category layout if an item was removed
07:08.26Nargiddleycaused alot of going out of sync
07:08.44Nargiddleyi need to redo the whole update system for the bags to get that working well
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07:09.35Nargiddleyalso, the delayed updating you put it was really showing with it
07:09.46Adirelle?
07:09.49Nargiddleyitem button would go empty before dissapearing
07:10.06Nargiddleycould see it waiting a few frames to get all the updates done
07:10.17Adirellethat shouldn't happen
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07:11.19Nargiddleycheck out the revision before last if you want to see it happening, moving things into and out of the bank is what i was doing
07:11.19Adirelleoki
07:11.26Adirellei'll take a look
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07:11.26Nargiddleycan see it a little bit now as well, bags updating a few frames after the change happens
07:11.46Adirellegrmpf, that's a flaw in scheduleevent then
07:12.05Adirellewith 0 delay it should update at *next* frame, not five later...
07:12.13sylvanaarmy unit frames just randomly dont cast when clicked on something is really wrong
07:12.18Nargiddleyit might be next frame i'm not sure
07:12.28Nargiddleybut when that update causes another update
07:12.37Nargiddleylike bags changing -> categories updating
07:12.44Nargiddleyyou can see it do one at a time
07:13.02Adirelleaah
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07:13.28Adirellewell... you may need to edit Baggins_Refresh then
07:13.42Nargiddleyprobably looks worse that it is cause that one frame has the update in it so is a long one
07:13.50AdirelleI tag things to be dirty and then this function handle refreshing in the good order
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07:14.17Nargiddleyi'm going to rewrite the whole thing from scratch, code thats there is hacked from the very first frames i wrote.
07:14.35Nargiddleyfrom way back before even the first filtering system was going
07:14.58Adirelleerm... it is quite good tho
07:15.27Nargiddleywell, its based on a full update of every category when any filtered item changes
07:15.30Adirellejust calling UpdateBagSize every now and then was a bit too much
07:16.09Adirellewell, in fact, tagging dirty things to have them refresh
07:16.33Nargiddleyi want to move to a small update for each bag item that changes, that will set a dirty flag causing the layout if needed
07:16.33Adirelleand then have a function that checks all in the good order is quite efficient
07:17.06Nargiddleyto get it not updating for removed items I had to keep a list of items for each section and compare to the new list the section was given, it got pretty ugly
07:17.10Adirellebtw, you may want to propagate dirtyness up (from item to section, section to bag)
07:17.45AdirelleI think it was overkill here
07:17.58NargiddleyI'll have to think it through, but it'll be a big change hopefully allowing for replacing the layout system on the fly
07:18.09Adirellejust refresh buttons, if a button's item mismatchs or if the button if missing, tag the section as dirty
07:19.25AdirelleI think you should consider layout as modules
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07:19.34NargiddleyI had done a similar change to the item filtering, always been planning the same thing for the frames
07:19.44Adirelleeven if for now i can't see more than two layouts :)
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07:21.36Adirelleuse AceModuleCore and create a Layout prototype, then create a set of baggins layout event to communicate with your modules
07:22.33Adirelleand put some helping method in the prototype (like setxxxdirty, isxxxdirty, createxxxframe, and so on)
07:23.04Adirellealso it should help getting layout code out of Core.lua
07:23.46Adirelle(and people to add new layout without editing Core.lua)
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07:25.38AdirelleI was thinking of doing the same thing to allow different skins
07:25.50fatbrainHellows, can anyone tell me why the party-pet-frames aren't displayed in ag_UnitFrames?
07:26.05AdirelleNargiddley: still here ?
07:26.42NargiddleyAdirelle, yeah
07:27.14Adirelleputting things in separated files should help clarify interactions
07:27.49Nargiddleyyeah theres alot of cleanup that could be done
07:29.15Adirellebut you're running into big troubles while doing that, I would suggest to create a svn branch
07:30.13NargiddleyI think i'd rather get it stable, which its close to now
07:30.21Nargiddleyand then work on it for a while
07:31.02toddfatbrain, same problem here
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07:31.10Nargiddleytook me just under a days work to do this same rework to the filtering system, hoping for the same thing
07:31.12fatbrainah, the todd, any ideas to why?
07:31.49fatbrainthe code isn't that well documented, and I was hoping it to be resolved "soonish"... :)
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07:35.09BarbanusROFL
07:35.15BarbanusGM #4 to send me a tell
07:35.20BarbanusAsking me if I am here
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07:35.32BarbanusAparantly people don't like me guarding stables, and writing this mod
07:36.21andremarhihi
07:36.53grennonwhats wrong with guarding stables
07:37.50KemayoIt's really embarassing when you lose the stables, after all.
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07:39.53CIA-1703kemayo * r24748 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Handle library upgrades better. (I think.)
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07:43.38MoonWolfcia is hardcore like that.
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07:47.36PogoTribal<PROTECTED>
07:47.42PogoTribalanyone know the command to remove a player from a raid
07:48.27art3misgod dammit
07:48.40art3misspent all this time making backgrounds with eepanel
07:48.40ZealotOnAStickuse /script UninviteUnit("Namee");
07:48.47art3misit does a ui reload and its all gone
07:48.48ZealotOnAStickwith the last letter of their name duplicated.
07:49.05ZealotOnAStickAlso, you might want to check out "Raid Window Fixes" on WoWI
07:49.58ArrowmasterUninviteUnit("Namee") doesnt work if the person is offline, instead try targeting them and using "target" but i dont know if that works
07:53.39PogoTribalthat's not working
07:54.58PogoTribalI can't right click their frame and remove them
07:55.01PogoTribalit'll remove someone else
07:55.43PogoTribaluninviteunit is getting someone else
07:59.48kebinusanyou can move them to your party and click them in the party frame to remove them
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08:01.11NightHawkTheSanePogoTribal: look up the mod ZealotOnAStick mentioned.
08:01.21FatherJimAnyone around with experience with EditBoxes?
08:01.56FatherJimUnless I just found my answer. :)
08:02.42steevhttp://jaeger.morpheus.net/misc/wow/nef1.jpg
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08:03.31PogoTribalis Zealotonastick in wowaceupdate?
08:04.38ZealotOnAStickNo, on WoWInterface
08:04.58ZealotOnAStickIt's called "Raid Window Fixes"
08:05.19Silviu--ZealotOnAStick in search is not or i am blind
08:06.21PogoTribaldo you ahev a link man I'm trying to lead MC at the same time
08:06.56PogoTribaland I'm not finding it on search
08:08.17Codayushttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6722-RaidWindowFixes.html
08:08.24CodayusSeems to work, btw.
08:08.41PogoTribalthank you COd
08:08.50ZealotOnAStickIt's near the bottom of the first page on new and updated: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6722-RaidWindowFixes.html
08:09.08ZealotOnAStickAhh, Codayus beat me to it.
08:09.12Codayus:-)
08:10.03AdirelleNargiddley : made some tries on last rev
08:10.28AdirelleI think some filtering stuff is done during layout where it should be done whenever needed
08:10.34Adirellebut can't catch what
08:10.56Nargiddleythe only filtering done near layout is categories into sections
08:11.44AdirelleI suppose we should put debug checkpoints all over the place and look what happens...
08:11.54Adirellebut for now, i gotto go
08:12.00Adirelles/gotto/gotta/
08:12.01NightHawkTheSanewhen in doubt, stick printf's everywhere. ;)
08:12.19Adirellecya
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08:17.47CIA-1703kemayo * r24749 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (7 files):
08:17.47CIA-17FuBar_QuestsFu:
08:17.47CIA-17-Add custom quest detail panel to replace quest log.
08:17.47CIA-17-Refactor a few sections to facilitate the above.
08:17.49KemayoWoo massive commit!
08:18.13PogoTribalzealot thanks the mod works
08:18.14vhaarr\o/
08:18.30kebinusanbleh
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08:18.38NightHawkTheSanehmm... custom quest detail panel?
08:18.39kebinusanrealm transfer is taking forever
08:19.00KemayoUm, hold on.  I can get a screenshot.
08:19.09kebinusanwoot pretty photos
08:19.11NightHawkTheSaneoh, hot. :)
08:19.36NightHawkTheSanei was just going to be patient until the revision propogated to the zips, and i updated but this is much better :)
08:20.05NightHawkTheSaneI think i misplaced a comma.
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08:23.44Tekkubdoes IsMounted() return true if you're flying?
08:24.17ZealotOnAStickI -think- I remember seeing a status for IsFlying() or something like that.
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08:24.22ZealotOnAStickbut not 100% on that.
08:24.32ZealotOnAStickKemayo: I'd love to see a screenie when you can.
08:24.43Tekkubyes but I need to make a distinction between mounted and flying mounted
08:24.52vhaarrSE-Mount has been updated, tekkub
08:25.01Tekkubyes vhaarr I know
08:25.08FatherJimAnyone else here know anything about expanding edit boxes to multi-line?  My box does show multi-lines of text, but the 'border' of the box is the original.
08:25.41KemayoScreenshot: http://kemayo.dyndns.org:8080/qfu_detail.png
08:26.05KemayoIt's somewhat unpolished yet.
08:26.14NightHawkTheSaneinteresting
08:26.15art3misis there another addon lite eepanels that doesnt suck?
08:26.31art3miserr like
08:26.58NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: I assume you get that instead of popping up the log when you click on a quest in the tooltip?
08:27.08kebinusanwhats wrong with eepanels?
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08:27.41ZealotOnAStickGood question, Tekkub.  Dunno what to tell you, other than, get someone on beta to try and see (if the servers aren't shut down already)?
08:27.55NargiddleyTekkub, IsMounted = 1 when on a wind rider
08:28.06FatherJimSo nobody knows anything about editboxes?
08:28.15Tekkubwind rider as in pre-pathed flying?
08:28.23Nargiddleyyeah
08:28.32Tekkuband IsFlying()?
08:28.34NargiddleyIsFlying() = nil
08:28.41Tekkubokey
08:28.58KemayoNightHawkTheSane: So long as you have it enabled, yes.
08:29.11Kemayo(It's toggleable in the options.)
08:29.19NightHawkTheSaneCoolness :)
08:29.20ZealotOnASticknice.  That might just be enough to make me not try to use a hacked up UberQuest.
08:32.03EnalungAlright, I'm working on getting a dewdrop menu to work right now. The first step is to create the minimap button. How would i go about doing that?
08:32.08CIA-1703kemayo * r24750 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix missing bracket in text after items in new detail view.
08:33.34Enalung...
08:34.01NightHawkTheSane... the easy way is to make it a fubar plugin and let that do the work. ;)
08:34.39EnalungIsn't fubar a bar addon?
08:34.51ZealotOnASticknot really.
08:34.51EnalungI'm not a fan of those...
08:34.57ZealotOnAStickit's an info panel.
08:35.03ZealotOnASticknot a buttons/action bars mod.
08:35.23EnalungYes but the info panel is displayed on a bar which sits at the top of the screen.
08:35.36ZealotOnAStickand with fubar plugin, you can have something act as a standalone mod, with a button on the minimap, or able to plug into fubar if it's also being run, at user choice.
08:35.48ZealotOnAStickor the bottom of the screen, or a portion of anywhere on the screen.
08:35.50Laricworkyou can size it and place it whereever you want Enalung
08:35.59EnalungWell I guess I don't have the same definition of bar as the rest of you. Still learning the technical terms.
08:36.30NightHawkTheSaneEnalung: FuBarPlugin is a library, which can either interact with FuBar to make it appear there, or make it appear as a minimap icon, basically.
08:36.35EnalungThe mod I'm creating right now is a button mod.
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08:36.45ZealotOnAStickif you're already using dewdrop menus, using fubarplugin will give you minimap AND fubar functionality.
08:37.00EnalungInteresting enough
08:37.35ZealotOnAStickso you can use aceoptions and dewdrop and users can get that from the button on either the minimap or on a fubar panel
08:37.45art3miswell eepanels seems to ahve a slight bug
08:37.51art3misit doesnt wanna save my panels
08:37.58EnalungAny links to tuts on those?
08:38.10ZealotOnAStickapi info with examples should be on the wiki.
08:38.27EnalungAlright then, time to pull out the google cache since the wiki is down.
08:38.32art3misi made a bunch did a custom edit on em, then clicked reloadui and poof they disappear, but are still listed and then i would have to close the menu after i ticked something to make it effective
08:38.41NightHawkTheSanenah, wowace is up i believe?  just loaded the site :P
08:38.48ZealotOnAStickuhm, it just loaded fine for me.
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08:39.08EnalungWell let me check then because only 6 hours ago the google cache was the only way to access the wiki
08:39.18ZealotOnAStick6 hours ago it probably was down.
08:39.27ZealotOnAStickKaelten brought the site back up when requests dropped enough.
08:39.34art3misits been up for a while
08:39.34EnalungYay it's indeed up!
08:39.40art3misnot in full form mind you
08:39.44art3misbut still up ;P
08:40.07EnalungMuch better then the bland google cache
08:40.32art3misya know what would make eepanels better(aside from my above complains) the ability to "shape" panels
08:40.48art3miseven if its just right angles
08:41.20art3mismake a big box across the bottom then click one third from the left on the top edge and shift drag up to make a higher side type thing
08:42.36evlIs Postal usable like GMail now?
08:43.19ZealotOnAStickportions of it, more or less.
08:43.30Dekunais the mass mailer section functional?
08:43.40EnalungYeah it's not in full form indeed. There's some pages that will load right away but some that simply refuse.
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08:46.31renchapKemayo: Message: ..\AddOns\FuBar_QuestsFu\QuestsFu.lua line 608: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'numGot' (a string value)
08:48.06grennonuhh, im having writers block, whats the function to get how much money you have?
08:48.41NightHawkTheSane... GetMoney()?
08:49.12grennonduh, for some reason i thought it was getplayermoney
08:49.26NightHawkTheSanecourse, i found that by looking on wowwiki. hint. hint. :)
08:50.37grennonoh right
08:50.42grennonyou want a tip
08:50.46grennonpaypal good?
08:50.59NightHawkTheSanelol, nah, you probably couldnt figure out how to count the money in your wallet. ;)
08:51.09Kemayorenchap: When does that happen?
08:51.19renchapdisplaying tooltip
08:51.47renchap(rollover on the QuestFu part in FuBar)
08:52.07KemayoAh, how I love errors that I'm not getting myself.
08:52.32renchapfrFR client, first use of the mod
08:52.35EnalungInteresting, didn't knew that clique was an Ace addon
08:53.17NightHawkTheSaneit used to be. I don't believe it is anymore.
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08:53.39ckknightyea, cladhaire renounced Ace
08:53.54EnalungAh
08:54.13EnalungStill listed on this page though: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Raiding_with_Ace_AddOns
08:54.22EnalungThat will have to be corrected.
08:54.37Dekunai don't know, i think Clique is fantastic regardless of whether it's ace'd or not
08:54.45evlThat's the wrong
08:54.48evlthing*
08:54.56EnalungClique is indeed a great mod.
08:54.57evlMSBT is still great even if it's not ace'd :)
08:55.29NightHawkTheSaneI dont think the quality of Clique was ever in question :P
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08:55.47evlNon-ace addons aren't bad :)
08:55.52kebinusanclique is great, c2c is just as easy to use and I dont need to go to some other site to update it
08:55.54evlexcept CT_* and Discord :D
08:56.14kebinusanso, in the end, laziness wins
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08:56.26kebinusanexcept I cant stand sct
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08:56.32kebinusanmsbt I love
08:56.40evlI use the default CombatText now
08:56.45NightHawkTheSaneI need to make my script able to update from wowi as well, but that might prove more difficult
08:56.45EnalungCTmod used to be good, but right now it's in shambles.
08:56.48evlexcept I've modded it abit in-place
08:58.21OvrLrd-QEnalung: just a bit
08:58.31deezelquestion: Is /target working completely insane since last patch ? I get wrong target ~70% of the time (ie. /target <someone> gives me someone else (always the same one) /target [target=<someone>] gives the same result)
08:58.49EnalungWell, it's getting fixed slowly but it will take time considering that cide is the only coder on that entire project
08:58.55EnalungAnyways
08:59.00OvrLrd-Qyea
08:59.04NightHawkTheSaneyes deezel, unit targeting is very bugged since the last patch. it's a known issue
08:59.11OvrLrd-QI think we've slowly pruned down to only using CTRA
08:59.16OvrLrd-Qand we're thinking of switching to bigwigs
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08:59.39jjbgood morning
08:59.43EnalungThe targeting is a blizzard Issue
08:59.48deezelNightHawkTheSane: mk, tx, din't see any info about it
08:59.52EnalungThere's a post on the forums about this one.
09:00.11deezelwas almost thinking I messed smth up
09:00.16CIA-1703ammo * r24752 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: bump CTRA version report to 1.623
09:00.17CIA-1703grennon * r24751 10Postal/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Postal: -fix for Wire, Added delays to PostalLib, New Module: Postal_Rake, displays money gains on closing the mailframe
09:00.28Adirelle|workNargiddley : i've been thinking of a Baggins cleaning up proposal from all way from home to work ;)
09:00.36deezelfunny thing tho, if one use string.sub(name,1,string.len(name)-1) it works fine
09:00.47EnalungThe tutorial index is one of the page I just can't fish from the server right now and the google cache just aint cooperating when I make a search for fubar.
09:00.47Kemayorenchap: I need to fly a character across the continent to find a quest that I think might trigger that error.  I'll get back to you shortly.  :)
09:00.56grennonNightHawkTheSane: unfortunately, your contribution to that commit in the form of a wise-ass answer went wholly unattributed
09:01.25grennonNightHawkTheSane: but thank you anyway for helping a very sleepy coder who just couldnt admit to himself to that he had the wrong function
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09:01.40NightHawkTheSanelol
09:01.59EnalungYeah, that's called not seeing the obvious.
09:02.02EnalungI do that a lot myself.
09:02.08NightHawkTheSaneI think we all do. :)
09:02.12Enalunglol
09:02.25Adirelle|workit often happen when "vous avez la tête dans le guidon" :)
09:02.39Adirelle|works/pen/pens/
09:02.43EnalungGeneraly speaking the highly complex code I do is error free but the simple one is riddled with errors.
09:02.55EnalungLOL
09:03.08EnalungYou really need to understand french to know that one. Great stuff
09:03.29Adirelle|workdunno how babelfish will translate that
09:03.36Adirelle|work~x fr en vous avez la tête dans le guidon
09:03.45renchap^^
09:03.55NightHawkTheSaneo_0
09:03.59Adirelle|worklol
09:04.15NightHawkTheSaneMaybe its me, but I think something got lost in translation there.
09:04.16evlAnyone using Hemlock here?
09:04.26evlAdirelle|work: You "pinged" me last night, sup?
09:04.30EnalungDon't know how to translate guidon, but the rest is "You have your head in / inside (the thing you use to drive your bicycle)
09:04.53Adirelle|workevl: well, we won't debate if it was night or not, but yes, I pinged you
09:05.31evlAdirelle|work: what can I help with? :)
09:05.51Adirelle|workevl: would like you tested last Baggins :)
09:06.04Adirelle|workbut well, other people did
09:06.05OvrLrd-Qis there a similar mass mailing ace2 addon like CT_MailMod?
09:06.15evlAdirelle|work: any texturing up in the house?
09:06.29evlOvrLrd-Q: I still use old revision of Gmail before it was removed from SVN
09:06.47Adirelle|workevl: not atm, mainly layout code rewrite
09:06.49NightHawkTheSaneOvrLrd-Q: try Postal, though it's still in development
09:07.09odtpostal's massmailer is somewhat scary
09:07.11NightHawkTheSaneThough, honestly, CT_MailMod isn't terrible, even if it -is- a ct mod :P
09:07.16odtit automatically sends the mail you alt-click
09:07.17evlAdirelle|work: at work now but I'll test when I get back
09:07.22odtitem*
09:07.29OvrLrd-Qyea it isn't bad, but for some reason on every piece of mail I just opened
09:07.35OvrLrd-Qit spammed me with internal mail database errors
09:07.41CIA-1703kemayo * r24753 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Shuffle some variables around to avoid issues after the refactoring.
09:07.46Adirelle|workNightHawkTheSane: explanation: when you're riding your bike, trying to go at highest speed, you often bow on it, getting the head close to the driving device (dunno how it is called), doing that you can pay less attention to what's in front of you
09:08.19NightHawkTheSaneAhh, I think i get it.
09:08.23EnalungThere we go, some patience and a little skill in research and I've finaly fished out the fubar tutorial page.
09:09.24NightHawkTheSaneOvrLrd-Q: yeah, i get those occasionally too. I'm not entirely sure it's MailMod causing it *shrug*
09:10.09Adirelle|workodt: yes, that's would be pretty scaring
09:10.44Adirelle|workerm... sometimes I feel my english is quite bad, is it just a feeling ?
09:10.54renchapKemayo: same error with new version
09:11.19snurrewtf, this is silly
09:11.23renchapbut line 610 ^^
09:11.29snurrecant even put praid in a single column anymore o.O
09:13.11Kemayorenchap: Would you mind adding the following after line 604?
09:13.35EnalungAlright, before I go too far into reading that. THere's one thing that I need to know. When I mentioned dewdrop and having a button you mentioned fubar. Do I use dewdrop with fubar or does fubar not need dewdrop. Also, the there will be 2 completly different menus. One is basicaly there for the global options and to enable config mode, the other menu is there to setup each individual button...
09:13.36Enalung...in config mode.
09:13.47Kemayo"self:Print(quixote:GetQuest(questid)); self:Print(quixote:GetQuestStatusById(questid, i))"
09:13.55snurreanyone feel like making a single column grid layout? ;)
09:14.16EnalungThe config mode menu pops on a right click over the button to edit.
09:14.17KemayoThen reload your user interface, and tell me what the last thing that gets printed out before the error happens is? :D
09:14.29Kemayo(Well, the last two things, preferably.)
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09:16.04NightHawkTheSaneEnalung: FuBarPlugin uses dewdrop to create the drop-down menu that FuBar plugins have. You'd probably need to include the library but it's just a matter of passing an AceOptions table to generate the menu.
09:16.38art3misdoes cartoggrapher allow for a non full screen map as well as alpha fading?
09:16.38evlart3mis: yes, it's in the look and feel module
09:16.51art3misso all the goodness of alphamap without the annoying click through?
09:17.10art3misoh i ahvent leeched it yet, was curious before i did ;P
09:17.32Mikmasbu_: what?
09:17.34Adirelle|workart3mis: take alphamap, atlas, atlasloot, gatherer, mapnote, and merge them all, you obtain cartographer... tho it is modular and you don't have to install/enable thing you don't need
09:17.47renchapKemayo: pm :)
09:17.56art3misyay thanks
09:18.06art3misnow if only eepanel would work
09:18.13art3missigh
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09:18.44art3misis there an ace based 3d character display?
09:18.51art3miswell 2d
09:19.02EnalungI'm guessing that was a whisper night since the text is bold. How do you do those in IRC anyways?
09:19.14syerenGuys, if Ace2 makes an error, where do I report it?
09:19.41art3misEnalung: hit tab to reply to who whispered you or type /m name
09:19.44Dekunasyeren: gotta be more specific, which error in which addon
09:20.02syerenLike I said.
09:20.09syerenIf ACE2 makes an error ;p
09:20.11NightHawkTheSaneEnalung: er, that wasnt a whisper, your client probably just bolds messages that include your nick. :P
09:20.13Dekunalol
09:20.17syerenI know where to report other errors ;p
09:20.23EnalungNightHawkTheSane: Probably
09:21.17Mikmasyeren: and we still need more specific details. what part of Ace2 errors and where etc. ckknight is one of the coders of Ace2
09:21.18CIA-1703morgalm * r24754 10MorgBid/MorgBid.lua:
09:21.19CIA-17MorgBid:
09:21.19CIA-17- added SHIFT for +-1 and ALT for +-20 on bidwar
09:21.19CIA-17- added bidwar step controlled by morgdkp
09:21.33EnalungMy IRC client is actualy a firefox plugin.
09:21.37ckknightand it's Ace, not ACE
09:21.44ckknightit's not a goddamn acronym
09:21.44Mikma:D
09:22.21Adirelle|work*ckknight gets frenzy* :D
09:22.22NightHawkTheSanecan it be ace, for those of us too lazy to hit the shift key?
09:22.41Mikmamiss!
09:22.42ckknightyes, NightHawkTheSane
09:22.47syerenMikma: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/210#preview
09:22.48ZealotOnAStick~ ace
09:22.50purlextra, extra, read all about it, ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind.  See http://www.wowace.com/
09:22.50syerenOr Ckk :p
09:22.56syerenI have had that error a few times :P
09:22.58ZealotOnAStickHrm.
09:23.11ZealotOnAStickcan purl parse something case-sensitive?
09:23.23ckknighttypically, I'll use Ace2 (referring to the library framework) or wowace (referring to the community)
09:23.39ZealotOnAStickpurl, what is ACE
09:23.42purlZealotOnAStick: what are you talking about?
09:23.48ZealotOnAStick~literal ACE
09:23.49purl"ace" is "a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind.  See http://www.wowace.com/"
09:23.58ZealotOnAStickok, so I guess no case sensitivity.
09:23.59ZealotOnAStickDamn.
09:24.05CIA-1703morgalm * r24755 10MorgDKP/ (6 files):
09:24.05CIA-17MorgDKP:
09:24.05CIA-17- added bidwar step menu control
09:24.23syerenMikma / ckknight, is that bug report any use to you at all?
09:24.40ckknightI don't know what your bug is
09:24.43EnalungI rather like capitalising the first letter of the word Ace
09:25.01[Ammo]hrmf
09:25.03[Ammo]damn lockups
09:25.08sylvanaarlol
09:25.16ckknightthree cheers for fresh air!
09:25.22syerenckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/210#preview
09:25.23syeren:P
09:25.28Mikmathat's not a Ace2 error
09:25.30syerenAll BugSack gives me :p
09:25.32syerenOh :P
09:25.34syerenWhat is it?
09:25.35Mikmathat is because of some addon using Ace2
09:25.43syerenProbably SRaidFrames?
09:25.51[Ammo]whenever someone joins a raid in AV while I'm fighting galvanaar (or in combat) one of my addons goes into an infinite loop
09:25.52ckknightI blame sRaidFrames
09:25.53Mikma"sRaidFramesGroupHeader8:OnEvent":2: in function <[string "sRaidFramesGroupHeader8:OnEvent"]:1>
09:25.57Mikmame too
09:26.01sylvanaarthres an error with my raid framss where they lose thier click castability
09:26.36EnalungWell, last night while testing my addon, after removing all the bugs I did get this error
09:26.36syerenSylv, I hate when that happens.
09:26.42EnalungError occured in: Global
09:26.44EnalungCount: 1
09:26.45syerenI use Clique and then next minute I Can't heal the player.
09:26.45EnalungMessage: ..\AddOns\Ace2\AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua line 301:
09:26.47syerenIt's like ....
09:26.47Enalung<PROTECTED>
09:26.48EnalungDebug:
09:26.50Enalung<PROTECTED>
09:26.52Enalung<PROTECTED>
09:26.53Enalung<PROTECTED>
09:27.09renchaphttp://ace.pastey.net
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09:27.21EnalungAnd mind you I have such a small amount of function calls so far that any loop that could case a stack overflow is easily tracked
09:27.25xordoquyhello
09:27.26EnalungAnd I have not found any.
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09:28.17CIA-1703kemayo * r24756 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Check for _FEMALE on rep levels. Darn foreigners.
09:29.03KemayoI'm out of touch -- will the new /files script automatically repackage an addon whose libraries have changed?
09:29.10vhaarryes
09:29.14vhaarrafter 20min
09:29.19KemayoWell, of course.
09:29.20Kemayo:)
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09:31.01CIA-1703adirelle 07adirelle * r24757 10SorrenTimers/: SorrenTimers: dropped Adirelle's branch, which would be redundant with Chronometer.
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09:39.05Worfimpressive - 2.0.3 is really the most buggiest WoW patch i can remember
09:39.50ckknightyep, sounds about right.
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09:40.06vhaarrespecially concerning raids, I've heard.
09:40.09odtthe fun thing is, it will be the one live on patchday
09:40.19NightHawkTheSaneWhile i imagine that's said about every patch, there may be some truth to that in this case.
09:40.20odti mean, expansion day
09:40.22vhaarron expansionday, you mean.
09:40.38vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: It's not, actually.
09:40.41Worfyesterdays BWL raid started with quite some fun until our leader managed to promote the people he wanted to, it took 15 minutes to kick someone of the raid who was offline...
09:40.43vhaarrSaid about every patch, that is.
09:40.56Worfand then Razergore the adds didn
09:41.00Worfdidn
09:41.05ckknighthow much older of a woman can a 19-year-old male date before it gets "weird"?
09:41.05Worf't stopp spawning
09:41.08CIA-1703toadkiller * r24758 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua AutoBarItemList.lua Core.lua Style.lua):
09:41.08CIA-17AutoBar:
09:41.09CIA-17-- 2.00.00.25 beta
09:41.09CIA-17-- Fix cyCircled code
09:41.18Worfnot after the eggs were destroyed
09:41.19ZealotOnAStickckknight: weird for whom?
09:41.29Worfnot after razergore was down and we wanted to loot
09:41.29ckknight3rd party perspective?
09:41.31odthis mother?
09:41.34ckknightgeneral society, etc?
09:41.39NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: sarcasm. :P
09:41.51NightHawkTheSaneckknight: as old as he feels comfortable with? everyone else can sod off? :P
09:41.53ZealotOnAStickI'm not a good representative of general society.
09:42.06ZealotOnAStickNightHawkTheSane speaks wisely.
09:42.08Health~30!
09:42.09purl[30!] 265,252,859,812,191,058,636,308,480,000,000
09:42.10Sroshckknight, about 23-24 I'd say and it depends on how old/young the woman looks
09:42.15ckknightyea
09:42.27ZealotOnAStickThere's some hot older women, with experience to share . . .
09:42.29ckknightlol, Health
09:42.37NightHawkTheSaneBut I've never been one to give much credence to what society thinks.
09:42.37Health:(
09:42.54ckknightI have no respect for girls my age
09:42.57ckknightit's sad, really.
09:42.58ZealotOnAStickthere's a reason MILF porn is so popular.  Though, admittedly, some of the MILFs are pretty damn young.
09:43.15HealthMothership has nothing to do with age :)
09:43.18ckknightMILF = 18-year-old with a 2-year-old daughter ;-)
09:43.25ckknighthehe
09:43.32HealthHEHE, I said mothership!
09:43.45ckknightyou're an alium!
09:43.47SroshHealth, it has, well, as in there's a minimum age :p
09:43.49ZealotOnAStickI'd rather have the 35 year old milf with the 18 year old daughter, myself.
09:43.54Sroshand a maximum age ;)
09:44.04ckknightminimum age = 16 in this state
09:44.16NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: lol
09:44.20WorfZealotOnAStick: lol, you mean so you can switch in time? :^)
09:44.21ckknightgranted, I don't really find 16-year-olds attractive...
09:44.38HealthThe oldest I've dated is only like 3 years older..
09:44.51ckknight2 for me, she didn't realize it at the time, though.
09:44.54HealthBut still, go for 30!
09:44.54ZealotOnAStickswitch?  No, more of a double generation experience.
09:45.07CIA-1703kemayo * r24759 10FuBar_ToFu/ (5 files): FuBar_ToFu: Add a deDE localization by Filion.
09:45.08OvrLrd-Qgod damnit effing blizzard
09:45.17OvrLrd-Qthinks one of the world maps is corrupt :(
09:45.23ZealotOnAStickMy roommate/sorta girlfriend is 12 years older than I am.
09:45.35krkaMothership? are you an alien or something?
09:45.44HealthYes.
09:45.48krkadamn it, someone else said that
09:45.48HealthIt's lunch today krka!
09:45.52HealthWant to come?
09:45.54Worfbut i can understand the problem... to quote a friend: "I seem to have problems to find a girl. Either they are too complicated, or they are too stupid"
09:45.55NightHawkTheSanekrka: welcome to 10 minutes ago ;)
09:45.57ZealotOnAStickI've dated from 4 years younger to 12 older.
09:45.57krkai need to scroll down and read everything before i type
09:46.06HealthI even joked about myself!
09:46.07krkasure Health
09:46.21HealthWoW-lunch at the greek place
09:46.24NightHawkTheSaneMy problem finding a girl is usually that the ones I'm interested in aren't available. ><
09:46.43krkaoic
09:46.43CIA-1703toadkiller * r24760 10cyCircled/plugins/AutoBar.lua:
09:46.43CIA-17cyCircled:
09:46.43CIA-17-- Update AutoBar support
09:46.56ckknightWorf: oh, totally.
09:46.59krkaNightHawkTheSane: you get a 404 on the jpg-links?
09:47.01krkaHEHEHE
09:47.12NightHawkTheSanekrka: yes, and it's driving me insane! :P
09:47.54Sroshif you're 18, worry not, get a bit older :p
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09:48.46HealthYou seem a bit retarded when you laugh like that krka!
09:49.09ckknightSrosh: I'm 19 now
09:49.26Srosh;) I'm talking more about 23+
09:49.38HealthOh, so much older!
09:49.38CIA-1703fatherjim * r24761 10loudmouth/ (loudmouth.lua loudmouth.xml):
09:49.38CIA-17loudmouth:
09:49.38CIA-17- Added countdown of string space left remaining on quote being edited
09:50.05Adirelle|worktoadkiller : I had some glitches with autobar button display
09:50.19krkajust copying you Health!
09:50.20ToadkillerAdirelle: do you use cyCircled?
09:50.21CIA-1703kemayo * r24762 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (FuBar_QuestsFu.toc lib/): FuBar_QuestsFu: Add Abacus-2.0 to libs.
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09:50.27Adirelle|worktoadkiller : no
09:50.51ToadkillerAdirelle: ok whats the glitch?
09:51.07vhaarrToadkiller: Where's my flying mount on autobar? It's not listed in the TBC beta.
09:51.21Adirelle|worktoadkiller :( notice I didn't checked last rev) I'm using scale or button resizing, and sometimes a border appear around the buttons
09:51.26ToadkillerDid u add it to PeriodicTable?
09:51.37vhaarrI think so, let me check.
09:52.06ToadkillerAdirelle: oh yeah I noticed that on my mount.  Im thinking its from using hotKey but I havent looked at it yet
09:52.12vhaarrToadkiller: Yes, they're in PT2.
09:52.21vhaarrToadkiller: "Mounts - Flying"
09:52.24Adirelle|workToadkiller : didn't had hotkeys
09:52.32Adirelle|works/didn't had/don't have/
09:53.08Adirelle|workToadkiller : but it happens, sometimes, when I simply click on the button
09:53.20Adirelle|workToadkiller: I think something is not resized well
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09:53.36Adirelle|workToadkiller: btw, the drag-n-drop feature and inventory support rock
09:54.05Adirelle|workToadkiller: though the green border on equipped item is a bit disturbing
09:55.44Adirelle|workToadkiller: and if you ever think of adding spacers or the like, don't hesitate :)
09:55.50HealthThat's alot of Toadkiller lines.
09:56.31Adirelle|workhealth: yep, splitting wall of text into lines, and then doing batch upload
09:56.43Healthsmaert
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09:57.13CIA-1703toadkiller * r24763 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarProfile.lua Core.lua):
09:57.13CIA-17AutoBar:
09:57.13CIA-17-- Add flying mounts to defaults. Needs reset to pick up change.
09:58.46NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|working: so you were at work before, but not working? ;)
09:59.09Arrowmasteri noticed that border in autobar too and i was using a completely default setup except for switching to zoomed instead of dreamlayout
10:00.02Toadkillerarrow et al: yeah I probably missed a spot when I switched to bt3 style buttons
10:00.13andremarautobar has dreamlayout now?
10:01.05NightHawkTheSaneandremar: yes
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10:01.27Arrowmasterprobably has to do with any onclick highlighting it used to do since i only noticed it on buttons after pressing them
10:01.28andremarnice
10:02.36Adirelle|workingNightHawkTheSane: Adirelle|working is working now ;)
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10:02.50Adirelle|workingNightHawkTheSane: (and yes :D)
10:03.50NightHawkTheSane:)
10:05.09CIA-1703rabbit * r24764 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Add a few default protected buffs.
10:06.01abbat_woh...
10:06.02abbat_w---
10:06.03abbat_wGridAlertDetox automatically choose the correct triggers based on player class (It does not do Spell scanning, just set up what you can expect to dispell from a level 60 character having the given class). The sound is the same than Detox and is part of the standard files, so you don't need to copy it.
10:06.04abbat_w---
10:06.15abbat_wWhere i can get this incredible mod? :)
10:06.22abbat_whttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3208.msg62712#msg62712
10:06.33abbat_wThis is the link but can't find links for download
10:08.12NightHawkTheSaneIt's attached to the post. you need to be logged in.
10:08.39abbat_wAh
10:08.48abbat_wSorry then ;)
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10:10.09Adirelle|workinghmm... wasn't someone working on the integration of Detox functionnality (priority and exclusion list) into a Grid module ?
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10:10.39Adirelle|workingdoh... forgot I supposed to work
10:11.00NightHawkTheSaneI think that might be the thread abbat_w linked.
10:11.06Adirelle|workinggo away, little pesky flashing window
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10:11.12NightHawkTheSanelol
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10:11.32inphanyone know of any swing timers?
10:13.01NightHawkTheSanei wonder how hard it'd be to write one...
10:13.40Tekkub*moan*
10:13.49Tekkubnothing beats good potato/ham soup
10:14.02NightHawkTheSaneoh, i thought you were talking about a swing timer...
10:14.03Stephmwinph: swing timer? as in swinging a sword?
10:14.15NightHawkTheSanein that case, potato? good, ham? not so much
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10:14.34Tekkuboh, it's good ham
10:14.37Tekkubnot cheap shit
10:14.45OvrLrd-Qcabbage and corned beef owns potato/ham anyday
10:14.46Tekkuboh and a bit of bacon bits too
10:14.54NightHawkTheSaneeh, i'm just not a ham person.
10:14.56Tekkubcabbage is barf
10:15.01Tekkubcorned beef is good though
10:16.29pb_ee1!google using ace2
10:17.06pb_ee1Hum
10:17.14pb_ee1I have an idea
10:17.18Toadkillerso what click casting mod are you guys using?
10:17.26inphStephmw: yes for main hand and off hand
10:17.39inphsomething that would reset on swing resetting attacks
10:18.02ZealotOnAStickpretty much everyone I know uses either Clique or Click2Cast
10:18.04pb_ee1Ace2 is great, but is quite complicated to understand for a basic user (I mean, someone that does NOT want to spend his time on configuring his AddOns)
10:18.05Toadkillermmm baked potato with sour cream & chives & cheddar & bacon bits!!!
10:18.25NightHawkTheSaneYeah, im using Clique at the moment
10:18.29pb_ee1And I thought it was too bad, so I wrote a guide for my guildies
10:18.36abbat_wConfiguring?
10:18.44abbat_wEasy with DeuceCommanger & Fubar
10:18.53NightHawkTheSaneToadkiller: dammit, now i want a baked potato.
10:19.19pb_ee1'talking about how to do, but also in order to *understand* how Ace2 works (at least, the most simple things)
10:19.21sbu_morning
10:19.46pb_ee1And... actually more than one half of my guildies are now using Ace2
10:19.52ToadkillerSo is clique ace2 as well?
10:19.58pb_ee1Well, what I wanted to say
10:20.03NightHawkTheSaneNo, clique doesn't use ace
10:20.23Toadkilleris it better than click2cast?
10:20.23pb_ee1Do you think posting a guide on how to use Ace2 on the Interface Customisation Forums of WoW could be a good idea?
10:20.52EnalungWell, whoever recommended buggrabber instead of swatter last night was dam right
10:20.54Tekkubno :)
10:20.55NightHawkTheSaneToadkiller: depends on who you ask. they're roughly the same, though.
10:21.02Enalung:)
10:21.09Tekkubpb_ee1, it'll just get lost in the noise
10:21.15Toadkillerthanks, ill go with the ace one then
10:21.26ckknightpb_ee1: yea, just don't be zealous
10:21.28NightHawkTheSanepb_ee1: really, if the mod is coded well, there's minimal need for any end-user to even know or care about Ace2 or whether it exists
10:21.52pb_ee1I mean, not a guide to developp with Ace2
10:22.17Tekkubthat's always the big if
10:22.19pb_ee1But a user-end guide to explain why Ace2 exists, how it works, why you should use it and how to do it
10:22.44NightHawkTheSaneTekkub: unfortunately so.
10:22.50EnalungAlright, now I have a working chat command. Just need to get the menu working.
10:23.09pb_ee1Actually the guide (in French at the moment) was really a success. If I had not wrote it, I think nobody would have installed Ace2 at all
10:23.20pb_ee1(in my Guild)
10:23.37ckknightokay
10:23.45ckknightwell, no blood no foul, pb_ee1
10:24.01Rubberan i the only one getting constant error msgs from the latest oRA2 ?
10:24.05Rubberam*
10:24.12ToadkillerWell grid sure needs some handholding, but the result is better than anything ive used b4
10:24.34pb_ee1ckknight: You mean, you're against the idea? ;) (sorry, I don't know the meaning of "no blood no foul")
10:24.44Toadkillermaybe a guide to replacing some of the usual suspects with ace mods
10:24.52Tekkubhe means, go cut yourself
10:25.09nymbiarofl
10:25.11ckknightpb_ee1: no, it means don't push so hard you'll bleed
10:25.21ckknightotherwise do what you feel like
10:25.42pb_ee1well, I don't want to post something big on Ace2 without talking about it with you :p
10:25.45Tekkubsame diff
10:25.56pb_ee1The guide is already written, I just need to translate it
10:26.10ZealotOnAStickWhat all did you focus on in your guide?
10:26.19pb_ee1Maybe I could start to post it on the French forums
10:27.06ZealotOnAStickI'd think. . . basics of navigating dewdrop menus, useful ace2 slash commands, features of fubar and fubar-plugin . . .  What else do users need, other than things specific to certain mods?
10:27.46vhaarryes, explaining FBP/Tablet would be nice.
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10:27.50vhaarrand the things they can do.
10:27.53ckknightjust don't be zealous and say that you shouldn't use any non-Ace mods
10:28.07pb_ee1ZealotOnAStick: What is Ace2, Why should you use Ace2, How it works, What are the libraries, How to install, update, What is the difference between updating with or w/o externals, Using WinAceUpdater, ...
10:28.21ckknightpush Ace for its good qualities, don't put down others cause they suck
10:28.33ckknightpb_ee1: seems good to me.
10:28.39pb_ee1ckknight: NO, it is not the object of the guide
10:28.42Tekkubyea, you can spend all day on how everyone else sucks
10:28.50Tekkuband in the end you just sound elitist
10:29.15pb_ee1No no no :)
10:29.15ZealotOnAStickheh, got an english version?
10:29.15pb_ee1Actually
10:29.15waffleis sanity working for anyone?
10:29.15EnalungQuestion: If I want 2 different dewdrop menus, how is it done? Do I need 2 instances or is tehre a way to tell it which menu to open?
10:29.15pb_ee1I can send it to you so that you can read it if you wish
10:29.16vhaarrwaffle: Why, are you selling insanity?
10:29.23ZealotOnAStickwaffle - you'll probably have to reset your database (under advanced options)
10:29.26wafflehaha.  i mean the mod.
10:29.49NightHawkTheSaneOoh, someone's selling insanity?
10:29.52NightHawkTheSaneI'll take two.
10:29.59ckknightEnalung: you can't.
10:30.00vhaarrI'll take the party-pack.
10:30.01ZealotOnAStickyes. Antiarc changed some stuff on how the db worked . . .
10:30.09Toadkillerspeaking of sucking, whns questfu gonna be back?  Im really missing it
10:30.10ZealotOnAStickand it's.  . . broken some stuff in certain cases.
10:30.20ckknightEnalung: unless one is a sublevel of another or something
10:30.24vhaarrToadkiller: FuBar_QuestsFu works fine.
10:30.30EnalungI need to find a way to do that
10:30.31waffleok.  well, it just spams my bugsack with thousands of errors.  i'll find the sanity2.lua in savedvariables and nuke it.
10:30.39NightHawkTheSaneEnalung: er.. yeah, what ckknight said. you can jsust make them both sub-menus of a higher level menu
10:30.46ToadkillerI get quixote errors up the wazoo whenever I run it
10:30.58ZealotOnAStickpb_ee1: I'd be interested in seeing it, and if I like it, if you'll permit, sharing it with my guild?
10:31.01pb_ee1Tekkub & ckknight: Thanks, I'm going to translate it and I'll show you before posting it on the forums (if you have time to read it) ;)
10:31.13vhaarrToadkiller: Poke Kemayo, then.
10:31.15pb_ee1ZealotOnAStick: Sure!
10:31.19vhaarrToadkiller: And give him debug stacks.
10:31.24waffleZealotOnAStick: worked like a charm. thanks
10:31.29EnalungHmmm unless I change the design a bit and drop to one menu...
10:31.39nymbiaToadkiller: he committed a fix-looking thing just a bit ago, give it a shot?
10:31.50vhaarrhrm, I need gold on my level 46 horde warrior, I just bought him a mount <3
10:31.54vhaarrnow I have 2g
10:31.54EnalungCan the dewdrop menu be dynamicaly generated?
10:31.56vhaarr\o/
10:32.08PogoTriball
10:32.11ckknightyes, Enalung
10:32.18EnalungThen I have my solution
10:33.06vhaarrLFG Kul Tiras EU - Horde, need gold.
10:33.25vhaarrlol, durability: 11%
10:33.26vhaarrffs
10:33.34EnalungIt becomes a case of generating the right menu depending on the case.
10:33.55vhaarrEnalung: The dewdrop is recreated every time you open it.
10:34.31EnalungWhat I mean by dynamicaly created is basicaly adding and removign options on the spot
10:34.45[Wobin]yes you can
10:34.52ckknightgah, my computer keeps talking to me
10:34.53[Wobin]Have a look at HeyFu
10:34.59ckknighthow do I disable it? (I'm on a mac)
10:35.00[Wobin]although maybe that's a bit too abstracted
10:35.06NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: I've got 100+g on my 44 shammy, no mount, but full 16slot bags :)
10:35.18[Wobin]Speak loudly and in a stern voice, ck, and say "Cease this mindless prattle!"
10:35.31vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: oooh
10:35.44vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: On my server? :P
10:35.45NightHawkTheSaneckknight: system preferences -> speech?
10:35.56ckknightcouldn't find it in there
10:35.58NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: you wish. :P Laughing Skull, US :)
10:36.01ckknightbut it was apple-f5
10:36.08vhaarrbastard
10:36.17ZealotOnAStickI've got like nigh on 100 days at level 60 on my warlock, and on both my accounts between all characters, I -might- have 500g right now.  Probably a bit less.
10:36.24ZealotOnAStickGo go Naxx raiding consumables suck.
10:36.44NightHawkTheSaneckknight: ahh, that would be VoiceOver.. that's in Universal Access
10:36.47NightHawkTheSanefor future reference
10:36.55EnalungOh CK, while your around I've got a suggestion. I don't think dewdrop has an icon picker. It would be nice to add one.
10:36.58vhaarrWell, err, in total I have 3k+, but not on this server.
10:37.14renchapi stopped raiding 1 month ago : 1000 => 3000 gold
10:37.36NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: hehe. Well i have more on other servers. But on Laughing Skull that shammy is my only char. :)
10:37.44vhaarrsame here
10:37.50vhaarrI wanted to start fresh.
10:38.05vhaarrbut now I only have 2g, and I'm thinking it wasn't so smart :P
10:38.06EnalungBha, I got a good guild
10:38.21NightHawkTheSaneHehe, well just go gather low-level stuff and sell it. :P
10:38.22EnalungIf I ever make a shamy it will be on the same server as my current main
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10:40.46ZealotOnAStickI had around 1400, then got my druid to 60, and bought him an AV mount, offhand, etc. and that dropped by about half, then raiding for a few months, it's been a slow decline.
10:42.36vhaarrYou'll get at least 2k from just leveling 1 char from 60 -> 70.
10:42.55renchap3000+2000 = flying mount
10:42.57renchap^^
10:42.57vhaarr"just"
10:43.05vhaarrindeed
10:43.14renchapi have 3000 gold, thats fine :)
10:43.15snurreflying mount is just about 500g or so
10:43.21vhaarr700
10:43.25renchapsnurre: 60% speed
10:43.27vhaarrflying skill is 4.8k ?
10:43.27NightHawkTheSanethe epic flying mount is 5k before discount
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10:43.28snurreit's just the fastest one that is a few thousand
10:43.36NightHawkTheSanewell, flying -skill- that is
10:43.47vhaarrThe actual supermount is ~700, IIRC.
10:43.52vhaarrDon't quite remember.
10:43.53NightHawkTheSanesomething like that
10:43.53snurregetting a flying mount (and being able to use it) is dirt cheap
10:44.02snurreyou dont NEED the fastest one
10:44.05vhaarryes, the slow ones
10:44.08vhaarrof course you do
10:44.10vhaarrnub
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10:44.21vhaarr:P
10:44.21NightHawkTheSaneI still think it's idiotic that the base flying mount is slower than a land-epic mount
10:44.23renchapnon, i WANT the fastest one :p
10:44.29renchap*no
10:44.35[Wobin]oui
10:44.36vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: yeah
10:44.46NightHawkTheSaneI mean, at least make it 100% speed. ><
10:45.15CIA-1703renchap * r24765 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFuLocale-frFR.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: adding frFR translation
10:46.40NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: ping?
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10:48.57Toadkilleroh totally sweet, questfu is back in business just in time for tbc
10:49.14Elkanoit wasn't broken for me...
10:49.24NightHawkTheSaneo_0
10:49.31NightHawkTheSaneYeah..
10:50.17odtanyone going to reroll a be?
10:50.51renchapnext addons to translate : Cartographer/Cartographer_*
10:50.55renchap*crying*
10:51.03zirahquestfu worked fine but some addons like EQL3 replace the wow functions and broke it
10:51.50phybervhaarr: should I continue to clean up that GroupFu in trunk then?
10:51.56phyberneed to waste time at work on something :p
10:52.01vhaarrphyber: no
10:52.04vhaarrphyber: oh, hehe.
10:52.04phyberk.
10:52.05vhaarrphyber: hm
10:52.14vhaarrphyber: Feel free to tag trunk and move my branch :P
10:52.39vhaarrNot that I've asked the original author, but who cares.
10:52.41vhaarrHe's MIA.
10:53.08vhaarrWhat's the closets warrior trainer to Tanaris?
10:53.10vhaarrhm
10:53.19NightHawkTheSaneorgrimmar
10:53.36snurreor TB
10:53.38vhaarrseriously?
10:53.40vhaarrgaah
10:53.55vhaarrTB is probably 2sec closer.
10:54.14vhaarrLF1M ZF @ Kul Tiras EU, Horde - have healer!!1
10:54.38Toadkillerisnt there a trainer in ferallas? or is that shammy?
10:54.59vhaarrbah, too late now.
10:55.27NightHawkTheSanei dont recall seeing one in feralas. *shrug* be lucky you're not alliance. :P
10:55.40NightHawkTheSaneer, be glad, that is
10:56.27CIA-1703totalpackage * r24766 10Capping/ (Capping.lua Capping.toc options.lua):
10:56.27CIA-17Capping
10:56.27CIA-17- for default unit frames users, disable PlaySound hook since it was tainting the target frame
10:56.27CIA-17- updated for new SurfaceLib (now supports SetGlobal)
10:56.39Toadkillereach time I lightly fry a gnome to seal in the juices & start munching away while it is still screaming I do thank my lucky stars that I am not aliance
10:57.26NightHawkTheSaneToadkiller: well to be fair, the alliance do that to gnomes too. I mean they're just so tasty!
10:57.58ToadkillerI ought to be vegetarian, being a cow & all, but some things are just too good to pass up
10:58.00vhaarrGnomes <3
11:02.08Toadkillerandremar: not so much dreamlayout as bt3 style buttons: plain, zoomed & dreamlayout
11:03.32Adirelle|workwth can't I get SVN to merge a branch into trunk ? :(
11:03.50nevcairielif you know how, sure you can
11:04.43Adirelle|worknevcairiel: when I ask him to see diffs or to make a dry run, it seems to work
11:05.07Adirelle|worknevcairiel: but when I actually launch the merge, the file is untouched
11:05.27IlluminatiLates rev of Bartender3 wont swap between catbar and normal bar.  Bear seems to work fine
11:05.32Illuminatilatest
11:05.52nee-lapthe latest works for me, let's see which I use
11:06.14nee-lap24682
11:06.15OvrLrd-QYay my WoW decided to corrupt itself
11:06.37Illuminatithats what I'm running atm
11:07.59IlluminatiI just needed to relog
11:08.41nevcairielis it working now again?
11:08.49StephmwOvrLrd-Q: good thing that repair util is there
11:08.51Tekkubmerge can be a canfusing thing....
11:09.04Tekkubhave there been changes in trunk since you branched out?
11:09.46Tekkubalso, do you just want to move branch to trunk, or do you actually want to merge the changes in branch with the changes in trunk?
11:09.50CIA-1703nymbia * r24767 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (21 files in 9 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: initial commit. Some tradeskill data's missing, give it a day or two ;)
11:10.20nevcairielwhats the diff to PT2 now?
11:10.27TekkubAdirelle|work, pingy
11:10.35EnalungAlright, unless I messed up something I should have fubar plugin working.
11:10.51nymbianevcairiel: there's a section on that at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PeriodicTable-3.0
11:11.29nevcairielsounds good nymbia :)
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11:13.18sylvanaarNymb? got time for glory?
11:14.08nymbiasylvanaar: yeah, lemme get the props set on this thing real quick then i'll take a look ;)
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11:14.40CIA-1703adirelle * r24768 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
11:14.40CIA-17GloryLib:
11:14.40CIA-17- french localization. Regression tests on non-french clients are needed !
11:14.40CIA-17- reloading UI inside a battleground should no longer break GloryLib.
11:14.58Adirelle|workTekkub: yes ?
11:15.06Tekkub*points up*
11:15.08Adirelle|work(don't have ping thing)
11:15.21Adirelle|workoh
11:15.29Tekkubare you actually merging, or just copying over?
11:15.34Adirelle|workTekkub : merging
11:15.42Adirelle|workbut I managed to do it by hand
11:15.46Tekkubokey... that's a PITA :)
11:15.53Adirelle|workPITA ?
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11:16.01andremarToadkiller: ahh, thats even cooler :)
11:16.06NightHawkTheSanepain in the ass. :P
11:16.12sylvanaaranal pain
11:16.18Tekkubif I remember right, source would be trunk, the start rev... target would be branch, HEAD rev
11:16.43Tekkubthat says "I want to merge the branch head in with all changes since whatever rev"
11:16.52Adirelle|workI think I had managed to get the correct settings (or almost)
11:16.58sylvanaarmerge to to trunk?
11:17.09Tekkubmerge is a very unintuitive command
11:17.18Adirelle|workwhen I clicked on show diff it showed them correctly
11:17.48Adirelle|workand when dry running it were telling it would update the good file
11:18.22sylvanaaryour wd = trunk, then you merge from branch head to trunk head, sound right?
11:18.34Adirelle|workbut... when I actually launch the operation (you guessed I'm using TSVN, don't you ?), it says it updates the file, but when I check it, my change aren't there...
11:18.44Tekkubyea but the command isn't like that sylv
11:18.47Adirelle|worksylvannar : it is what i did
11:18.59Tekkubyou're merging trunk rx to branch HEAD
11:19.08Adirelle|workHEAD to HEAD
11:19.09Tekkubit's very odd
11:19.19sylvanaarits really just a copy
11:19.24Adirelle|workI meant branch HEAD to trunk HEAD
11:19.30Adirelle|workand there were change on trunk
11:19.34Tekkubyea head to head is just copying it over
11:19.47Adirelle|workaah...
11:19.51sylvanaarbecause it assumes you have brought the branch current
11:20.08Adirelle|workI think I get it
11:20.10Tekkubmerging say, trunk r10 to branchHEAD will apply all changes made in branch from r10 to HEAD to trunk
11:20.16Adirelle|workbtw, done it manually in r24768
11:20.29Adirelle|workthere was only one file
11:20.59NightHawkTheSaneAm i the only one who doesnt find merges to be particularly difficult?
11:21.10Tekkubmerges are nasty complex
11:21.18Adirelle|workNightHawkTheSane: didn't you say you were a SCM admin ?
11:21.19sylvanaarthey arent real version controll
11:21.30Tekkubbut if no changes were made in trunk since the branch, you don't really merge anyway
11:21.30NightHawkTheSanesvn merge -r from:to source/where/your/changes/are
11:21.34NightHawkTheSanethen just do svn commit
11:21.35Tekkubyou're just copying over
11:21.56NightHawkTheSaneAdirelle|work: no, but I've had to use SVN in previous jobs, so :)
11:22.08Tekkubso in that case it's easier to just fuck merge and do a copy over manually and commit the change :)
11:22.12Adirelle|workNightHawkTheSane: I too, but I'm quite "new" to merging :)
11:22.38sylvanaar1 simple reason SVN loses - no self enforcing locks
11:22.40Adirelle|workTekkub : what I did, on the good side, I reverted any unwanted change on koKR/zhCH locales :)
11:22.48NightHawkTheSaneMy last job had 2-3 branches of the source in active development, and so I had to get quite adept at merging between branches
11:23.00Tekkub*shudder*
11:23.15Adirelle|work~x en fr shudder
11:23.37Adirelle|workTekkub : I meant I keep trunk version, not mine :)
11:23.41sylvanaar~x fr en friesure
11:23.42Tekkub~x en fr fucksmudge
11:23.56sylvanaarhaha
11:24.08NightHawkTheSane.... did you just break purl?
11:24.17Tekkubit seems so
11:24.19sylvanaaro cant spell in other languages
11:24.27sylvanaars/o/i/
11:24.37sylvanaarpurl: you cant
11:25.56Adirelle|workbtw, if someone update GloryLib and make some test with a non-french client to ensure I didn't break something
11:26.15Adirelle|works/someone/someone could/
11:26.36sylvanaaryou did Adirelle|work - you broke the EN server/battlegroup mapping
11:26.43Adirelle|workaaaaaah
11:27.10Adirelle|workdamn, why, I just copied those of the trunk
11:27.15sylvanaarpurl tell Adirelle|work i was kidding
11:27.26sylvanaarnot that again
11:27.45sylvanaarpurl tell Adirelle|work about humor
11:28.33Adirelle|workpfff...
11:28.34Tekkubpurl, what the fuck?
11:28.35purlwho?
11:28.35CIA-1703nymbia * r24769 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (10 files in 10 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: I think that's all the properties.
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11:29.36renchapAdirelle|work: cant you install the enGB langage pack and test ?
11:29.48Adirelle|workrenchap: good point :)
11:30.06Adirelle|work<PROTECTED>
11:30.26Adirelle|work(and btw, i don't have access to WoW here)
11:30.45sylvanaarpurl
11:30.50sylvanaarcrap
11:30.56sylvanaarim tired
11:31.07art3miswheee finally got my ui setup and i only had to use 3 non wowace mods
11:31.16OvrLrd-Qjesus lol how many PeriodicTables are there now
11:31.27NightHawkTheSane.... 3?
11:31.31art3miscounting the chemistry 1?
11:31.32sylvanaarthey increase periodically
11:31.33art3mis4
11:31.36art3mis;)
11:31.37NightHawkTheSane4.. :P
11:31.44NightHawkTheSanesylvanaar: booo. :)
11:31.51art3misthat was a really bad pun
11:31.56OvrLrd-Qnow lets see how bad wow screwed itself
11:31.57sylvanaaroh wait
11:32.54CIA-1703nymbia * r24770 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: 'Stub' isnt the best module name to register with.
11:33.27CIA-1703adirelle 07french-loc * r24771 10GloryLib/: GloryLib: french-loc branch merged into trunk.
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11:36.50ArrowmasterAdirelle|work: your frFR locales for glorylib wont work
11:39.00Adirelle|workArrowmaster: why, I succesfully already tested them
11:39.33Arrowmasterlogicly they shouldnt according to line 685
11:39.51NightHawkTheSanehrm. should I feel overpowered for soloing King B as a 45 shammy?
11:40.23Adirelle|workolol, forgot that one :s
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11:41.06Arrowmasterand whats with the preparseEventText() global function
11:41.07Adirelle|workArrowmaster: thanks to pointing it out... I think it gets lost during the manual merge...
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11:41.16Adirelle|workthat's a local function
11:41.19nymbiaAdirelle|work: i think your merge ate some trunk changes
11:41.48|Kev|NightHawkTheSane: what level's King B? I think most classes can solo up to +3 elites around that level with a bit of effort
11:42.01NightHawkTheSane43 elite, but he comes with a couple adds
11:42.20Arrowmasterim seeing that function as global i think
11:42.23|Kev|*shrug* then :)
11:42.45Adirelle|workwell... somehting went bad during merging
11:42.54NightHawkTheSaneand i dont know what classes you play, but i dont think i could handle a even +1 elite, with the gear I have at least
11:43.17|Kev|I know when I was levelling my mage, I was killing +3 elites with reasonable regularity
11:43.18Adirelle|worksome trunk changes were eaten, so as were some of mine...
11:43.35Adirelle|workgoing to recheck that
11:43.45Arrowmastertrac is slow =(
11:44.26Silviu--nymbia so now all authors will change to Pt3 ?
11:44.56nymbiaSilviu-: not necessarily, there's still some addons that use pt1, after all ;)
11:44.57Adirelle|workArrowmaster: btw, preparseEventText() should be local, it was in my branch
11:45.04Ziconnighthawkthesane: Hunters, warlocks and druids all do +3 elites easily, at least...
11:45.24Nargiddleynymbia, whats changed from pt2 ?
11:45.28Arrowmasterdoesnt look like it is in trunk, and i dont even see where it gets used
11:45.39ZealotOnAStickI soloed him around 41ish on my warlock, though it took a couple of tries.  He wasn't a problem, the damn adds were.
11:45.54nymbiaNargiddley: there's a summary at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PeriodicTable-3.0
11:46.13NightHawkTheSaneit's always adds that are the pain, though, even if the mob's not elite
11:46.36Adirelle|workArrowmaster: in BattleFieldObjectiveEventProcessing
11:46.47|Kev|at least with a lock you have nice ways to manage adds
11:46.47sylvanaarpurl: tell NightHawkTheSane about give10
11:47.04Adirelle|workI had to preparse log string to drastically reduce the number of patterns
11:47.06Nargiddleynymbia, ooh looks interesting
11:47.16ZealotOnAStickNot then I didn't.
11:47.18nymbiaNargiddley: :)
11:47.22Nargiddleybig change for the browser tho heh
11:47.28NightHawkTheSane|Kev|: that's because locks are just blatantly overpowered. :P
11:47.42ZealotOnAStickThis was back like December 2004.  :P
11:47.43|Kev|I remember when it wasn't so :)
11:47.47Adirelle|workArrowmaster: in french, "the" can be translate to at least la, le and l'
11:47.59nymbiaNargiddley: haha, yeah.  i need to rewrite the other browser too ;)
11:48.03NightHawkTheSaneso do i, but it doesn't change that they are now :P
11:48.18sylvanaar~whinelock
11:48.21Adirelle|workand Blizzard spelt l' either l' or l\226\128\153
11:48.27Adirelle|workgiving 4 possibles string
11:48.27|Kev|I feel more OP on my blue mage than my purple lock
11:48.28sylvanaarlol
11:48.37ZealotOnAStickAffliction locks just too a hell of a nerf, thanks very much, due to people bitching at level 60 about stuff balanced for L70.
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11:48.58ZealotOnASticks/too/took/
11:49.00Matrix110it wasnt balanced at lvl 70 aswell
11:49.07Matrix110it was even more sick then
11:49.11Adirelle|workArrowmaster: now, some patterns contains two or more "the", I let you imagine the number of pattern it would lead to...
11:49.30NightHawkTheSaneZealotOnAStick: when I stand a chance in hell of beating anyone other than a rogue with my prot specced warrior, ill believe that such nerfs weren't deserved. ;)
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11:49.48sylvanaaraffliction has been needing a buff since 1.0
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11:50.02nymbiaNargiddley: the sets table is local now, but you can grab it with getUpgradeData()
11:50.06Arrowmasteri thought a lot of glorylib was string.match and not direct comparisons
11:50.09|Kev|my first lock (release '04) was affil
11:50.16|Kev|it wasn't at all OP back then :)
11:50.17AniasRBAffliction locks took the wrong nerf, due to people bitching about pvp concerns that had nothing to do with the value on the spells, and everything to do with the front-loading in conjunction with "warlock dead, dots kill you anyways" frustration.
11:50.19Arrowmasterand http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/24768/trunk/GloryLib looks like a lot more than locales
11:50.22sylvanaarmine too
11:50.25sylvanaarthen demon
11:50.41Adirelle|worknymbia : I'm diffing current version with previous one of trunk but I can't see what gets lost. Have you got a example ?
11:51.02sylvanaarI quit afer havng a full patch with 5 min summon
11:51.13Silviu--ZealotOnAStick how will u skill in TBC ? :P
11:51.17AniasRBIn arena/BG, dots should fall off when their caster dies.  That would remove 99% of the bitching about shadowpriests/warlocks, yet still allow dots to have correct multipliers to be competitive with mages in pve or pvp as long as they live.
11:51.40[Ammo]anyone else have a problem in Battlegrounds when people join the battle and you're in combat
11:51.44[Ammo]that the game completely locks up
11:51.45ZealotOnAStickFor leveling, very likely aff/dest, simply because dark pact is so damned useful.
11:51.49[Ammo](infinite loop in lua or something?)
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11:52.00ZealotOnAStickI tried about 40 build variants in beta.
11:52.06[Ammo]trying to figure out what addon/lib is causing it
11:52.07Silviu--ZealotOnAStick i think i´ll go the new pet for lvl
11:52.19sylvanaarheres me back in the day http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wowscrnshot_110805_182652.jpg http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wowscrnshot_103005_074723.jpg
11:52.20ZealotOnAStickand for leveling, heavy aff or heavy demon were the ones that were efficient.
11:52.25Adirelle|work[Ammo]: GloryLib ? just changed it...
11:52.30[Ammo]I don't use glorylib
11:52.35|Kev|<3 DS void for solo
11:52.35[Ammo]and it started 2 weeks ago approx
11:52.37ZealotOnAStickFelguard just got nerfed, too.  Same armor and AP as Succy.
11:52.39AniasRBI had that problem when joining a raid in progress ammo with an old build of grid, updating grid fixed it.
11:52.49NightHawkTheSaneSo, on a tangent, what would you guys recommend for leveling a lock starting from 1? (I'm planning on rolling a Belf lock next week with some friends..)
11:52.49Silviu--ups ...
11:52.54[Ammo]I don't use grid
11:52.55Arrowmasterfelguard did not get nerfed
11:53.00AniasRBHrm, no clue then =P
11:53.01[Ammo]and it's other people joining, not me joining
11:53.04[Ammo]while I am in combat
11:53.13ZealotOnAStickArrowmaster: try him on 2.0.4.
11:53.17Arrowmasteroh
11:53.18[Ammo]happens most of the time on Galvanaar in AV :)
11:53.21AniasRBI'd check your unit frames to see if they're trying to do something protected.
11:53.24|Kev|NightHawkTheSane: affil I think
11:53.31Arrowmasterthought you were talking about the live 2.0.1 to 2.0.4 patch
11:53.31|Kev|NightHawkTheSane: demo is also a strong contender
11:53.33[Ammo]agUF
11:53.39AniasRBSince that's where the majority of my "someone joined wow goes to hell" errors came from
11:53.40Arrowmasters/2.0.4/2.0.3/
11:53.59nymbiaAdirelle|work: well, i'm not quite clear on what was changed due to localization and what wasnt, but, lost the license at the top, changed some returns for some stuff, changed some of the POI stuff..
11:54.04[Ammo]wow goes to hell in a bad way, it just hangs
11:54.13[Ammo]I can alt-tab and then alt-ctrl-del most of the time
11:54.15AniasRBThose are the best.
11:54.16NightHawkTheSane|Kev|: yeah, i was looking at Demo, maybe picking up imp drain soul in affliction *shrug*
11:54.16[Ammo]and kill the WoW process
11:54.36|Kev|if you go demo, you /must/ get imp vm asap
11:54.41Silviu--Arrowmaster and 2.0.4 will come next week when BC arrives right ?
11:54.44Adirelle|worknymbia : changed or lost ? because I changed some stuff that weren't purely localization
11:54.44sylvanaarthre are several styles to affliction play
11:55.00sylvanaarthe main one is hardly ever used
11:55.01Adirelle|work(I'd check for licence tho)
11:55.03NightHawkTheSaneer, you mean imp VW?
11:55.04sylvanaarirony
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11:55.07AniasRBThe BC that went gold is actually 2.0.1 - we'll be rolling back when we install it, then reupdating....
11:55.08ZealotOnAStickGoing demonology would bug me too much.  I specced 0/30/21 for a few months for raiding in AQ40 (huhu and tanking the twin emps mostly) and I hated the loss of so many nifty affliction toys.
11:55.13|Kev|NightHawkTheSane: yes
11:55.32sylvanaarimp VW was always a goood choice in demon spec
11:55.34nymbiaAdirelle|work: looks like the license is the only thing that was flat out lost
11:55.49Adirelle|worknymbia: yep, just noticed it
11:55.52Arrowmasternymbia: look at 2056 in current glory, something looks very wrong with that
11:56.09sylvanaarCoEx
11:56.23sylvanaarone of my favorites
11:57.02sylvanaardemonology is one of the most fun specs for 5 man instanecs
11:57.31Adirelle|workArrowmaster: what's wrong ?
11:57.42[Ammo]I am 44 affliction 7 demonology for demonic emb and imp imp
11:57.50[Ammo]and I love it in 5 mans
11:57.57Silviu--Atm, i am sm/ruin and it fits my playstyle in Naxx/PvP
11:57.59Arrowmasterunless im miss understanding that, that function got completely borken
11:58.22Nargiddleyi'm 44 dest 7 aff and also love it in 5 mans
11:58.35sylvanaaryeah, i guess - thats one of the reasons i quit playin a warlock - warlocks were acting too much like mages
11:59.55sylvanaari rerolled a priest because i was disappointed in enslave demon - MC is sooooo much better
11:59.56Silviu--i should had done it long before .. now i have too good equip to quit it :(
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12:00.28CIA-1703nymbia * r24772 10PeriodicTable-3.0/PeriodicTable-3.0-Reputation/: PeriodicTable-3.0: Renaming RepReward embed to Reputation, step one..
12:01.18Silviu--And only other char i have is a rogue but not so nice
12:01.20Adirelle|workArrowmaster: have you seen that in game or only from the code ?
12:01.27Arrowmasterfrom code
12:01.32RLD_osxdarn... patch 2.04 already
12:02.01CIA-1703nymbia * r24773 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Renaming RepReward embed to Reputation, step two.
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12:02.43ArrowmasterAdirelle|work: theres no way that function can work properly
12:03.05sbu_PT3?? wtf ;p
12:03.11Adirelle|workArrowmaster: can't get the point... you mean sorting properly ?
12:03.28Adirelle|workbtw, GetBattlefieldObjectiveStatus is a local function, not a method
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12:04.28Arrowmasterno i mean theres no way nodeA.ypos and nodeB.ypos are getting set
12:04.37cladhairesnurre: You can put praid in a single column quite easily, actually
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12:04.46cladhaireI've posted it on wowi a number of times since yesterday
12:05.37Adirelle|workArrowmaster: it means that they are not set in Glory.battlefieldObjectiveStatus[a] and Glory.battlefieldObjectiveStatus[b] either...
12:06.08Arrowmasterlocal nodeA = GetBattlefieldObjectiveStatus(a);
12:06.08Arrowmasterlocal nodeB = GetBattlefieldObjectiveStatus(b);
12:06.13Arrowmasterreturn nodeA.ypos and nodeB.ypos and nodeA.ypos < nodeB.ypos
12:06.26Arrowmasterunless i dont know lua as well as i thought i do, that wont work
12:06.28cladhairesnurre: If you can't find it later on, just email me
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12:07.45CIA-1703nevcairiel * r24774 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: hopefully fixes priest shadowform issues
12:08.27NargiddleyArrowmaster, whats that line meant to be doing that it isnt ?
12:08.41Adirelle|workis the point in local assigmeent, function call or return statment ?
12:08.53Adirelle|worki'm sorry, I can't get it
12:09.15Arrowmasteronly nodeA and nodeB should be getting set, not nodeA.ypos and nodeB.ypos
12:09.36Adirelle|workGetBattlefieldObjectiveStatus return table reference
12:09.46Adirelle|works/urn/urns/
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12:10.40Adirelle|workso nodeA and nodeB are set to table references, which tables may contain ypos
12:11.55Adirelle|workunless I'm missing something...
12:12.15Adirelle|workthe most weird thing's being that I tested that in game, and it worked...
12:13.07Arrowmasterok i dont know anymore, glory has gotten a lot harder to read, local functions everywhere and such that look like game functions
12:13.27Adirelle|workoh crap...
12:13.44Adirelle|workI renamed GetBattlefieldObjectiveStatus
12:13.46Adirelle|workthat's the point !
12:13.50Adirelle|workeeeh
12:14.06Arrowmasteryou did?
12:14.43Adirelle|workbefore it had another name
12:14.44abyssichateis PeriodicTable-3.0 safe to replace PeriodicTable-2.0 yet?
12:14.56Arrowmasteri dont see it existing at all before
12:14.58Arrowmasteryou added it
12:15.16Adirelle|workand just before commit, I said myself... that name is ugly... let's chose another how, why not GetBattlefieldObjectiveStatus
12:15.28nymbiaabyssichate: no.  give it a few days for kinks to get worked out
12:15.32Adirelle|workbut... I didn't checked it was in WoW API..
12:15.35Adirelle|works/was/were/
12:15.38abyssichateRoger
12:15.45Adirelle|workstupid me
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12:16.33Adirelle|workwell... it already doesn't exist
12:16.46Arrowmasterwhy did you even move that stuff to a function?
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12:17.14Adirelle|workwhen you reload your UI inside a battleground, the objective list ain't refilled
12:17.23Adirelle|workit leads to lots of nil erros
12:17.26Adirelle|work+rs
12:17.39Arrowmasternever seen that before and i reload in bgs a lot
12:18.05Arrowmasterbut i do know all those new function calls are going to cost more preformance wise than the table calls from before
12:18.20Adirelle|workeach time I reloaded, the list of objectives were clean up in battlegroundfu
12:18.38Adirelle|workthat was the first problem
12:18.45Adirelle|workand quite often I got nil error
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12:20.04Arrowmasterhmm ill have to check the old code more but i think i could fix that a much better way
12:20.05Adirelle|workwell... another solution is to have it initialized at an appropriate time, but PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD doesn't seem triggered on UI reload
12:20.19Adirelle|workmaybe on Ace2_FullyInitailized...
12:20.20ArrowmasterPEW should
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12:21.54Adirelle|workhmm...
12:21.54Adirelle|workI think I got the point...
12:21.54CIA-1703kagaro * r24776 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: some more de localizations
12:21.54Adirelle|workthe test of IsInBattlegrounds : MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status == "active"
12:21.56Adirelle|workis this true when PEW get triggered ?
12:22.06Arrowmastershould be
12:22.15Arrowmasterbut you could test with debugging lines
12:22.42ArrowmasterWTF? for i = 1, table.getn(Glory.battlefieldObjectiveStatus) do
12:23.56Adirelle|workhehe, seems something get through...
12:25.31ravagernlDoes anyone know of an addon to move the battleground status, like warsong flags
12:26.01abbat_wvisor2
12:26.01Arrowmasterhmm im seeing a quite a few table.getn() in glory
12:26.15abbat_wvisor2 can move frames around screen
12:27.00CIA-1703adirelle * r24777 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: put thing that were lost during merging back in.
12:28.58odtabbat_w: how btw?
12:29.09odtlast time i checked visor was pretty complicated
12:29.18abbat_wi use it
12:29.19odtso it was not, enable, move with mouse kinda thing
12:29.36abbat_wby using command lineinterface
12:29.39NightHawkTheSanevisorgui?
12:29.45abbat_wi don't try visor2gui
12:30.10odtmoving something via commandline sounds kinda backwards
12:30.31abbat_wheh ;)
12:30.51abbat_wafter 1h playing with visor2 i don't think so ;)
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12:31.24NightHawkTheSaneeh, when ever interface object in the UI has a string representation it's not that backwards. just perhaps unwieldy and cumbersom
12:31.29NightHawkTheSanee
12:32.28Silviu--ZealotOnAStick in search is not or i am blind
12:32.30Silviu--fc
12:32.33CodayusHmm, 2.0.4 is out.
12:32.38CodayusWith...no patch notes.  Hmm
12:32.39ravagernlhmm yeah, thought of visor2 myyself, but thought maybe there was an addon specifically for this
12:32.42Silviu--ignore that :P
12:34.08Arrowmasterok im not sure but i think i may have just found that stupid double honor counting bug in glorylib when you have multiple versions as embeds
12:34.49HajitorusCodayus: Let's hope it'll fix the random hangs I've been getting with wow since 2.0.3?
12:35.09CodayusHeh, after 2.0.3, I'm just hoping the overall bug count stay constant.  :-/
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12:35.23CodayusHoping for a net reduction in bugs seems widly optomistic.  :-)
12:35.28Funkeh`hey
12:35.42nymbiasup Funkeh`
12:35.56Codayus(That being said, I wonder what it DOES do?  Fix the bugged raid interface/targeting stuff, I assume...)
12:36.10Funkeh`nymbia, i see you've been a busy bee
12:36.13Arrowmasteranybody awake that knows aceevent and writing librarys very well?
12:36.24ZealotOnAStickok, at least they didn't change the .toc
12:36.25nymbiaFunkeh`: yeah ;)
12:36.36nee-lapCan anyone give me the name linked a bit ago which fixes the problems with the raid interface?
12:36.40Funkeh`:P
12:36.42nymbiaArrowmaster: a little, what're you trying to do?
12:36.53Arrowmasterthink i found that silly glorylib bug
12:37.05nymbianee-lap: 2.0.4 is out, that's the fix.
12:37.10Codayusnee-lap: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6722-RaidWindowFixes.html
12:37.15CodayusBut as nymbia said....
12:37.22nee-lapnymbia: But when is it out, tomorrow? Because it's not out now.
12:37.24nee-lapThanks Codayus
12:37.27Codayus2.0.4 is out right now.
12:37.33Codayus(In the US...)
12:37.34nee-lapNot here
12:37.35nymbiai just downloaded and installed it
12:37.36nymbia;)
12:37.37nee-lapI am in the EU
12:37.42CodayusI'm sorry?  :-p
12:37.49nymbiayou'll get it in 12 hours or so, then
12:38.14Funkeh`2.0.4 is out?
12:38.16nee-lapIs there a script to remove people from a a raid?
12:38.17nee-lap*raid
12:38.18Funkeh`not on eu? :/
12:38.24nee-lapNot yet Funkeh`
12:38.30nee-lapWe are always one day behind
12:39.07Funkeh`any blues on the us forum about 2.0.4 btw?
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12:39.15CodayusNot that I can see.
12:39.16Arrowmasternymbia: glorylib has both a Glory and events local in the library, and the events are registered during active, but since events is local the unregisterallevents wont work, right?
12:39.44ZealotOnASticknee-lap: Raid Window Fixes.  Should be on the first page of New and Updated addons at WowInterface, near the bottom
12:40.04nee-lapYes, thank you ZealotOnAStick ;) Codayus gave me a link some lines up :)
12:40.39nymbiaArrowmaster: hmm.  it should work, unless the local event thing isn't getting written properly
12:40.50Arrowmasternymbia: if a deactivate was added that referenced events, it would reference the one from the old lib right?
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12:43.05Arrowmasteri dont quite understand why glory is doing an :embed() to a table other than its main table
12:43.52nymbiaArrowmaster: i think you're on to something.. the bug would only appear for users with multiple versions of the lib, which sounds consistent with the reports of this bug
12:44.19Arrowmasteryeah if the older one loads before the newer one it always happens
12:44.44Elkanohmm, maybe embedding AE would solve things?
12:45.00Arrowmasterit is embeded
12:45.09Arrowmasterbut to a different table
12:45.11nymbiajust.. in a weird way
12:45.53Arrowmasterif it was to the main table the bug probably wouldnt show up
12:46.27Elkanohmm... store a reference to the local events table in Glory? ;)
12:46.29nymbiaArrowmaster: there's probably a reason that it's onthat table.. i remember trying to get AceEvent to work in Stitch was like pulling teeth.
12:46.40ravagernlbah, eepanels doesnt work
12:47.00ravagernlI just had my whole interface with panels, I relog, poof, gone
12:47.04nymbiaanyway, i'm gonna get a bit of sleep.  good luck Arrowmaster :D
12:47.06ravagernland theres an error too
12:48.08Arrowmasterthis Glory:_TogglePVP() function also doesnt make any sense
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12:48.41nevcairielno spanish translations in babble spell?
12:48.42nevcairielboo^^
12:48.47Arrowmasteradd them
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12:48.57nevcairieli am not spanish
12:49.03nevcairieli just want spanish support :P
12:49.08Funkeh`slap shiftos i say
12:49.09xlviiwtf?
12:49.11xlviinew patch?
12:49.13xlvii>_>
12:49.15xlviii just logged in, and it's trying to download another patch
12:49.19xlviii have 2.0.3 already >_>
12:49.25NightHawkTheSane2.0.4
12:49.31xlviiyou're kidding >_>
12:49.33NightHawkTheSanefixes raid/targetting issues
12:49.39xlviihow big is it? ;_;
12:49.49Funkeh`10kb? :P
12:49.55NightHawkTheSaneprobably small, i dont know
12:50.05xlviiwell.. it's taken about 5 minutes so far.
12:50.21NightHawkTheSaneWhat I don't get is why everyone will bitch about the bugs in the current patch and then bitch more when blizz releases another patch to fix them. :P
12:50.25Funkeh`YES, SGA ep17 finished dling
12:50.35ZealotOnAStickit's either about 3 or 6 megs
12:50.46xlviinighthawkthesane, because i'm in maraudon at the moment >_>
12:50.46xlvii:(
12:50.46NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: stargate: atlantis?
12:50.51Funkeh`yes
12:51.00NightHawkTheSanexlvii: lol, oops?
12:51.02xlviiwow-patch.mpq.partial is 2,791 kb big.
12:51.13xlviinighthawkthesane, and we are just about to kill princess :(
12:51.23NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: hot. i havnt watched it since season 2, im so behind. ><
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12:51.30Funkeh`lol
12:51.33Funkeh`im too addictyed
12:51.54NightHawkTheSaneheh, well its a good show
12:52.03Funkeh`its the new format they use now in torrents that anoys me. they put them out at like 700mb an episode, used to be around 300mb
12:52.08Adirelle|work<PROTECTED>
12:52.28xlvii-  The title "Scarab Lord" can now be chosen in game for select player
12:52.32xlviiwhat's that all about? :O
12:52.43NightHawkTheSanexlvii: for people who rung the gong for aq
12:52.43SprCdrOfEverythiIf you opened the AQ gates.
12:52.49xlviiahh true..
12:52.52xlviii want to be one of them :P
12:52.53ElkanoWTB: updated TradeSkillInfo
12:53.48NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: hmm, 700mb? yeesh, thats pretty high quality for just a tv series
12:53.59Funkeh`yeah
12:54.06Adirelle|workFunkeh`: looks like a ol' fake
12:54.09NightHawkTheSaneive got full length movies about as long
12:54.11Funkeh`no
12:54.17Funkeh`eztv are never fakes :p
12:54.22EvilGrin|WinManaged to break Catographer Map Notes.
12:54.29Funkeh`he just records it all hdtv and high quality crap now
12:54.30EvilGrin|Win[2007/01/12 12:54:52-99-x2]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\Notes.lua:3145: Trying to iterate through notes in an unknown zone: "Quel'thalas"
12:54.32EvilGrin|Win:P
12:54.51Adirelle|workFunkeh`: torrent or mule ?
12:54.56Funkeh`torrent
12:55.08Adirelle|workok, nvm then, I didn't say that
12:55.16ArrowmasterFunkeh`: try waiting and the 300mb non HD ones come out shortly after
12:55.25Adirelle|workthought of those porn fake on mule
12:55.42NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: but.. but.. that would require -waiting- :P
12:55.49Funkeh`thats the problem
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12:55.52Funkeh`i can't wait :p
12:56.03Funkeh`i dled the 700mb anyway
12:56.09Arrowmasteryou want and then get the torrent finished faster than the larger one would take
12:56.42NightHawkTheSaneeh, depending on how long it takes, not necessarily if there's enough seeders
12:58.19Arrowmasterfuck wdn.wowinterface.com doesnt have 2.0.3 up
12:59.44Arrowmaster~framexml
12:59.55purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip
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13:01.57Arrowmasterfuck the zip is corrupt
13:02.06JoshBorkemy my
13:04.44Arrowmasteranybody got the framexml extracter?
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13:05.09Nargiddleyyeah
13:05.20Arrowmasterzip is corrupt on official site
13:05.21nevcairielget the official one, i donwloaded it yesterday and it worked fine
13:05.24nevcairielhrm
13:05.26nevcairielweird
13:05.33nevcairielthey mustve broken it :P
13:05.38DrZootaqnyone know where i can find patch notes for 2.0.4
13:05.46Arrowmasteri just need UnitPopup.lua
13:05.51Tekkubthere is no 2.0.4
13:05.54Tekkub2.1.0
13:06.12ZealotOnAStickI can provide a screenshot says otherwise.  :P
13:06.36ZealotOnAStickarrow, you get one yet?
13:06.41ZealotOnAStickI have it from like 2 days ago.
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13:06.53DrZootok well if there is no 2.0.4 then I have a malfunctioning wow, cause the version string is 2.0.4 (6314)
13:07.00Tekkuboh bugger they snuck one in on us
13:07.03Tekkubthat assholes
13:07.16NightHawkTheSanelol
13:07.20DrZootlol
13:07.22Tekkubthat wasn't there a few hours ago when I logged in :P
13:07.29Arrowmasterredownloaded 3 times, says corrupt zip everytime
13:07.32DrZootyeah same here
13:07.39Adirelle|worknymbia : i think Arrowmaster found the problem with Glorylib : if you have multiple instance, you will have multiple instance for Glory-2.0.lua events table
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13:07.48ZealotOnAStickcan you accept dcc, or you want e-mail?
13:07.57ArrowmasterAdirelle|work: yeah i found that and know the fix
13:08.18Arrowmastertrying to replace the hackish _TogglePVP() hook now but i need framexml files
13:08.56ZealotOnAStick^^
13:08.56Adirelle|workArrowmaster: adding a deactivate hook ?
13:09.00Nargiddleyi have it here, want me to dcc it ?
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13:09.05NightHawkTheSaneDrZoot: more than likely the only fixes were the fixes to the raid/target ui
13:09.06Klazarnasty critter from the dark portal ravaged IF dead everywhere
13:09.07Arrowmasteryeah
13:09.25ArrowmasterNargiddley: sure
13:09.31Tornhoofhmm any real changes for 2.1?
13:09.50Tekkubhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=65369054&sid=1
13:10.01[Ammo]Nargiddley: thanks for the all in one sorted in Baggins
13:10.04[Ammo]solved my problsm :p
13:10.07[Ammo]it's perfect now :)
13:10.07Nargiddley:D
13:10.59Klazarno notes for the 2.0.4 patch?
13:11.27Tekkubthere is no 2.0.4
13:11.32HealthHEHE
13:11.33Tekkubif there was, there'd be notes
13:11.48Tekkubthat wasn't a patch, you just had gas
13:11.53NightHawkTheSanelol
13:11.59NightHawkTheSaneyou keep telling yourself that :)
13:12.00Klazarwhat was that i downloaded beofre head'n to work...
13:12.02abbat_w"had gas"?
13:12.04CIA-1703totalpackage * r24778 10ChatSounds/ (ChatSounds.lua ChatSounds.toc):
13:12.04CIA-17ChatSounds:
13:12.04CIA-17- toc update
13:12.04CIA-17- slight code cleanup
13:12.11abbat_wwhat is it 'had gas'?
13:12.36Tekkubflatulence (sp?)
13:12.49NightHawkTheSane(yes, thats spelled correctly)
13:12.59abbat_wahahah ;)
13:13.01kenlyric|workthere was a note.
13:13.14kenlyric|workit said "look for patch notes on our horribly outdated patch notes website"
13:13.32xlviitekkub, excuse the spam..
13:13.32xlvii--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:13.32xlvii- World of Warcraft Client Patch 2.0.4
13:13.32xlvii--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:13.32xlviiThe latest patch notes can always be found at
13:13.33xlviihttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/
13:13.44Stephmwwtf?
13:13.45Tekkuboh thought, there's hints that the quest at the portal isn't all of the event, maybe 2.0.4 is just slipping in the next part?
13:13.46hastel2pastey!
13:13.48Stephmw2.0.4?
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13:14.02xlviihaste, it was 5 lines, lol.
13:14.03Tekkubxlvii, no, there is no patch, stop thinking there is
13:14.05CIA-1703progman * r24779 10HealOrganizer3/ (HealOrganizer3.lua HealOrganizer3.xml):
13:14.05CIA-17HealOrganizer3:
13:14.05CIA-17- Added the missing xml file o_O
13:14.05CIA-17- Added some code for setting the height of the dialog
13:14.14hastexlvii: that's at least 3 lines too much
13:14.37Adirelle|workyes, it's an hotfix
13:14.37xlviihaste, true that.
13:14.37Arrowmastersweet theres a GetPVPDesired()
13:14.37Tekkub*runs down to the portal again*
13:15.19kenlyric|workit's just an excuse for mod sites to get hammered again.
13:15.31Tekkub"Patch 2.0.3 is live!..."
13:15.37Tekkubtold you, even on login
13:15.39[Ammo]hehe
13:15.40Tekkubthere is no 2.0.4
13:15.47[Ammo]I need to do some serious debugging tonight in AV
13:15.55[Ammo]stupid infinite loop in one of the addons I use
13:15.57Tekkuband they changed the TOC number, fuckers
13:16.06Tekkuboh no they didn't
13:16.15Tekkubthey just disabled outdated again, god I hate that
13:16.18NightHawkTheSaneyeah
13:16.37kenlyric|workuh, every patch does that now.
13:16.45Arrowmasteri keep wanting to make a RunOnce.wtf and set it readonly
13:16.46Adirelle|workhmm... can't get the point of disabling outdated if the toc number didn't change...
13:17.04TekkubIF is bouncing, they drag Kruul in...?
13:17.13NightHawkTheSaneI'm sure it's trivial for them to just force the checkbox to be unchecked :P
13:17.57Tekkubyea TOC is still 20003
13:18.09kenlyric|workwell, it's not like there's a committe meeting. That checkbox is now unchecked at every patch.
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13:18.16CIA-17Bartender3: now using stance names instead of icons
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13:18.16Tekkubamazing how well the game runs when IF is empty too
13:18.20kenlyric|workhas been since... 1.10 maybe? 1..11 at least.
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13:18.38Tekkubyes ken, just saying, hate that
13:18.43kenlyric|workas do we all :)
13:18.58kenlyric|workBut hey, 2 times in a row now I remembered before logging in :)
13:18.59Tekkubif the user turns it on they're accepting the issues, there's no needto undo it every patch
13:19.30kenlyric|workKrull kills william and donna. That will open the dark portal.
13:19.35Tekkubmy wow is running amavingly smooth
13:19.42Tekkubhum
13:19.46Tekkubit's... scary
13:20.12Klazarlol must be that 2.0.4 patch
13:20.12Tekkubnormally flying thru searing gorge/burning steppes is painful
13:20.27Tekkubwell 3/4 of my addons are off too
13:20.28Adirelle|workyep... now you're having "- my addon don't work anymore, is there an update ?"     "- did you checked load outdated ?"     "- er, no"    "- go check it and we'll see after"    *time passes* "- hey, that was that !"
13:20.29Tekkubbut still...
13:20.29NightHawkTheSaneTekkub: simply proving that MMOGs are great games as long as there's no other people invovled. :)
13:20.41Tekkubyes, that's probably it
13:21.10Tekkubeven drawing in NPCs as I fly isn't painful
13:21.18Tekkubmaybe it's just the fact I have 2GiB now
13:21.20kenlyric|workdo you guys ever have it happen that patch will change your mod memory usage without updating any mods?
13:21.29TekkubI've not really flown since I got it
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13:22.13kenlyric|workI seem to remember in 1.11, my memory usage shot up, then in 1.11.1 went way down, then in the next one spiked again.
13:22.28kenlyric|workand now I've gone from 37mb after GC to 40mb after GC.
13:22.31Adirelle|workGC tweaking...
13:23.01TekkubI assume you're talking about a forced GC?
13:23.03kenlyric|workI also don't seem to have any extra memory on load, before first GC.
13:23.08kenlyric|workyes.
13:24.00abbat_wit's nice if some patch be released today
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13:24.12abbat_w2.0.3 is bugged like shit ;(
13:24.16kenlyric|workI wonder if the first GC happens earlier now.
13:25.29Tekkubhum
13:25.34TekkubI'm only pulling 15FPS
13:25.43DarkImakuniwhy is 2.0.3 bugged?
13:25.47Tekkubmust be the lack of model load studders I'm seeing
13:26.04kenlyric|workare there any places in the outlands where a light feather is going to help me?
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13:26.15TekkubDarkImakuni, there is no 2.0.4
13:26.27kenlyric|workI know there's lots of place to jump, just not so many to land in.
13:26.32DarkImakuniTekkub: I never said there was :P
13:26.38abbat_wDarkImakuni, try to change leader for example in raid ;)
13:26.40kenlyric|workDarkImakuni: that's right!
13:26.45abbat_wOr try to setup follow
13:26.45TekkubDarkImakuni, nevermind you didn't get it
13:26.55Tekkubthere's a dreadknight at the portal
13:26.56abbat_wOr try try to kick someone from raid
13:26.59abbat_wOr guild
13:27.10Tekkuband portal hounds
13:27.45ne0-abbat_w http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5888/blizzard-raidui-fix/ u need? :O
13:27.50kenlyric|workTekkub, yeah. That's been there since tuesday.
13:28.26TekkubI only saw felguard and voidwalkers before tonight
13:28.27abbat_wne0-, thanks
13:28.28kenlyric|workyou probably just got out of there too fast to see one.
13:28.38abbat_wAlso Krull
13:28.44abbat_wLooks like Kazzak
13:28.49kenlyric|workIs Kazzak
13:28.54Adirelle|workKrull is *in front* of the portal ?
13:28.58nee-lapHas the same loot table too
13:29.01abbat_wYep it is Kazzak
13:29.08abbat_wAdirelle|work, no
13:29.09Adirelle|workI thought it was were Kazzak where
13:29.15kenlyric|workKazzak cloned himself before jumping through the portal and receiving an upgrade.
13:29.15abbat_wthey spawn at some lokation
13:29.26abbat_wTonight we meet him at Silithus for example
13:29.35TekkubKazzak == dup bug?
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13:29.47Adirelle|worksaw it at IF gates yesterday
13:29.53TekkubI don't see any new quests down here tho...
13:29.53kenlyric|workanyone get to experience the closing of beta last night?
13:30.15Tekkubeverything's on fire though
13:30.23abbat_wTekkub, only one for tabard
13:30.26kenlyric|workspawning kazzak in stormwind was a pretty boring idea.
13:30.29kenlyric|workwhy not onyxia?
13:30.35abbat_wQuest giver just before portal
13:30.35Tekkubokey ya'all are slow....
13:30.44kenlyric|workonyxia deep breathing in the trade district would be awesome.
13:30.50TekkubI came down here thinking that 2.0.4 was adding a bit more at the portal :P
13:30.52hastekenlyric|work: kazzak heals tho'
13:30.59hasteOnyxia you can actually kill
13:31.04abbat_wafter you complete it you receive ~ 4g and tabard with /flex emote and holy nova effect
13:31.07TekkubI already did the shit 2.0.3 added
13:31.14abbat_wTabard design looks like AD tabard
13:31.27nee-lapofcourse
13:31.33nee-lapAs the Argent Dawn is defending there
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13:32.15anenigma_sct is now throwing  up (112) after parries or dodges or misses.  Is this like the average damage i could possibly have done?  And is there a way to disable it?
13:32.27kenlyric|workScarlet Crusade should be down there defending too.
13:32.35ne0-tabard with a USE function! its awesome! its unique!
13:32.44kenlyric|workanenigma: I assume it's an error, sinced everyone of my chars gets 112
13:33.08anenigmaaah.  i've only chekced my pally so far
13:33.22anenigmawhose average hit is around 110, and whos weapon skill is 114 atm
13:33.48kenlyric|workit's also showing 0 damage when I absorb something with my shield (also, it shows "Absorbed"). So there's a few errors with it.
13:34.34kenlyric|workug, nobody on my server is awake.
13:36.07nee-lapYou are
13:36.23Adirelle|workNargiddley : pm ;)
13:36.27kenlyric|workyeah, but I can't buy my outrageously overpriced grey items in the neutral AH.
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13:37.51abbat_wbtw
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13:38.15abbat_wsomeone told me what 2.0.4 already released on US
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13:39.10NightHawkTheSaneabbat_w: it is.
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13:39.52kenlyric|workhmmm... my pet action bar has become tainted. I have taint!
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13:44.48RLD_osxonebag suite needs to be updated.  I'm seeing some clipping in the 1st full row of slots in all windows and oneview is not updating the bank bags; even after visiing the bank or while the bank is open. oh anf the tocs need updating.
13:45.42kenlyric|workSo why does prat care about my pet action bar?
13:45.55kenlyric|workAnd why does it tell me to lock the pet action bar when that option is already set?
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13:49.46Adirelle|workkenlyric|work: it is unset every time you reload... and it seems it is related to an obscure thing in blizzard code
13:50.00kenlyric|workok.
13:50.09abbat_wMcdonalds has better loot than 5 mans!
13:50.10Adirelle|workbut sylvanaar could better explain why...
13:50.23kenlyric|workhmmm.. I just went into combat while moving a bar around, and then it got stuck to my mouse pointer.
13:50.32kenlyric|work<PROTECTED>
13:50.43nee-lapYea that's annoying
13:51.30CIA-1703nevcairiel * r24781 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: another fix for shadowform, it should work now.
13:51.51CIA-1703darkimakuni * r24782 10FuBar_uGuild/ (. Core.lua FuBar_uGuild.toc Locals.lua):
13:51.52CIA-17FuBar_uGuild:
13:51.52CIA-17- TOC updated to 20003.
13:51.52CIA-17- Did a spot of tidying up within the files.
13:51.52CIA-17- Removed deDE translations, as they are unfinished. If anyone wants to put them back then go ahead.
13:52.24DarkImakunilol abbat :D
13:53.14HjalteThrae: You around mate?
13:54.02CIA-1703nevcairiel * r24783 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: priest changes broke druid stealth, now everything should finally work.
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13:55.44renchapnevcairiel: Bartender3: now using stance names instead of icons => must we (translators) use the exact translation for stances (blizzard one) ?
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13:56.47nevcairielrenchap: yes, i copied the translations from Babble-Spell tho, for all languages in babble spell. Check the top of the BarStates.lua, the stance names are not in the locale file because too many people eat it :P
13:57.06renchapoki, i will check for frFR
13:58.34CIA-1703darkimakuni * r24784 10FuBar_uFriends/ (Core.lua FuBar_uFriends.toc Locals.lua):
13:58.34CIA-17FuBar_uFriends:
13:58.34CIA-17- TOC updated to 20003.
13:58.34CIA-17- Did a spot of tidying up within the files.
13:58.34CIA-17- Removed deDE translations, as they are unfinished. If anyone wants to put them back then go ahead.
13:58.38renchap(and adding bs in deps isnt overkill, its a good way to have it work across patches ^^
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13:58.57nevcairieli didnt like the idea of having the full BS
13:59.01renchapblizzard loves change case/... in spell names
13:59.11nevcairieland someone needs to update BS then as well
13:59.21nevcairieland i generally pay attention to all changes to libs :)
14:00.27renchapno shadowform localization ?
14:00.42nevcairielits not really a form
14:00.52nevcairielits only a display name
14:00.57renchapokay
14:01.07renchaplets try with my druid and my war ^^
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14:03.03renchapbearform buggued
14:04.24kenlyric|workit's a spell, as opposed to using the actual StanceBar
14:04.37kenlyric|work(shadowform, that is)
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14:08.24nevcairielrenchap: check /dump GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1) and compare it to the string
14:08.39nevcairieli should install the frFR lang pack
14:08.39CIA-1703renchap * r24785 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarStates.lua: Bartender3: Fixing bear forms for frFR locale
14:08.42renchap:)
14:09.08renchapcant try moonkin/tree but should work
14:09.34nevcairieldid they remove the special ' sign again?
14:09.35nevcairielweird.
14:10.21renchapSingle quote is a bit of a special case, it also has it's equivalent in unicode but this is actually not always the case ingame, has to be checked experimentally
14:10.29renchapfrom wowwiki
14:10.29nevcairielhehe
14:10.41nevcairielevil single quotes
14:11.49packetlssAdirelle|work: did you break Glory?
14:12.37phyber4/g 34
14:12.40Adirelle|workpacketlss: maybe... but nothing's sure, which locale ?
14:13.23Adirelle|workbtw, the few changes I reverted between the two last revision weren't critical
14:13.46Josh_Borkehola
14:13.55packetlssAdirelle|work: enGB, it complains of the changed rows (where == is changed to string.match)
14:14.29Adirelle|workwhat the error looks like ?
14:15.29GagorianIs there any localization solution (library) for item set names?
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14:16.30packetlssAdirelle|work: not entirely sure (forgot to SS), but i was something about match not being a correct method to strong
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14:16.43packetlsss/strong/string/
14:17.17jjbis there a tool to create frames, buttons and so on?
14:17.31jjband the output is lua?
14:18.24Adirelle|workpacketlss: didn't involved nil ?
14:18.27Adirelle|workor wrong type ?
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14:18.37Arrowmasterfuck using a deactivate function isnt working to fix the glory bug, i guess it cant reference the old local
14:19.07Adirelle|workArrowmaster : I think you do but... old revison don't have deactivate
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14:19.25Adirelle|workyou're deactived function only operates on your current version
14:19.27Arrowmasterdoh nvm i forgot to put the function into the register call
14:19.40Adirelle|works/'re deactived/r deactivate/
14:19.45Arrowmasteryeah i know i copyed my new one over and bumped the revision
14:19.51packetlssAdirelle|work: i got 8 mins till next BG, then i'll let you know :)
14:20.05Adirelle|workdon't forgot to SS or best, use bugsack
14:20.09jjbyou have waitingtime for BGs? :)
14:20.28ravagernlPVE server? HAH
14:20.30packetlssi am EZ-mode alliance you know :)
14:20.43jjbon my reallm i wait not longer than 1 minute
14:21.01Arrowmasterok yeah i fixed the bug
14:21.08packetlssour BG group is like 1.4 alliance/horde ratio
14:21.18jjbic
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14:21.34packetlsson weekend AV queue reach 1h+
14:21.36jjbthere is no frame designer tool? :)
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14:22.17deltronninja patch!
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14:23.05odtdeltron: did it change the interface version?
14:23.46deltroni'll find out
14:23.54kenlyric|workno.
14:24.01deltronit's 2.0.4
14:24.22kenlyric|workyeah, but I don't think the toc changed to 20004
14:24.22hasteThat's not the interface version :3
14:26.50ravagernl~seen totalpackage
14:27.02purlravagernl: i haven't seen 'totalpackage'
14:27.22ravagernlbah, under what name is he known in IRC? the author of inflight
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14:27.59realistikwhere can I see patch notes for 2.0.4?
14:28.40QuetziRophy, ping
14:29.23kenlyric|workdoes KC_Items know the difference between the neutral and faction auction houses?
14:30.16Tekkubrealistik, there is no patch 2.0.4
14:30.26realistikso what did I just download?
14:30.36Tekkubyou had gas, that's all
14:30.46realistikpretty sure it wasn't gas
14:30.51CIA-1703arrowmaster * r24786 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory-2.0: tweaked the TogglePVP hook and fixed the double honor bug (if and only if no versions older than this one are loaded)
14:31.02abbat_w[17:02] <maggito> 2.0.4 bug fixes:
14:31.02abbat_w[17:02] <maggito> * Fixed problem with name matching of players in the party or raid (affected promote, follow, etc.)
14:31.02abbat_w[17:02] <maggito> * Allow dueling option in tainted unit menus
14:31.02abbat_w[17:02] <maggito> * Fixed /equip
14:31.02abbat_w[17:02] <maggito> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1&pageNo=1
14:31.03realistikpretty sure it said "downloading update" for a few secs then made me restart WoW...
14:31.29Arrowmastersomebody said the ranged flag cap exploit got fixed
14:31.38realistikthanks abbat_w
14:31.48abbat_wahah, lol
14:31.50abbat_w---
14:31.50abbat_w2.0.5 bug fixes:
14:31.50abbat_w* Improved robustness of pet action bar display, now less likely to be accidentally blocked by addons.
14:31.50abbat_w[ Post edited by Slouken ]
14:31.51abbat_w---
14:31.53abbat_w=)))))
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14:32.02Arrowmasterlol
14:32.22Arrowmasteri wonder if he finally set the frame to use secure templates
14:33.46Arrowmasterhehe feels good to squash one of the oldest and annoying bugs in a wowace library
14:33.56abbat_wmaybe in 2.0.5.1? :)
14:34.49packetlssAdirelle|work: Glory-2.0.lua:1920: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil)
14:35.58Arrowmasterif string.match(description, BGObjectiveDescriptions.IN_CONFLICT) then
14:36.13Adirelle|workah
14:36.28Adirelle|workeasy to fix
14:36.39Adirelle|worktho i wonder why I didn't had it
14:36.52kagarohmm wonder why my toc data isnt loading into the wiki
14:37.06Adirelle|workArrowmaster: do you want to fix it or should I do it ?
14:37.18Arrowmasteryou can do it
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14:37.57Arrowmasterone of the next things im going to do is fucking convert glory to acelocale
14:38.06ThorgardSairen, [2007/01/12 08:39:03-52-x1]: cyCircled-0.2\core.lua:237: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
14:38.19Thorgarderr, damn tab.
14:39.34Adirelle|workand if someone (I included) find a way to surely load objectives at startup, I will be happy to remove my GetObjectiveBattlefieldstatus function (that I may rename so it doesn't look like an API function)
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14:40.32Arrowmasteri could probably do it with metatables but theres one place where pairs() is used on the table that would need redone
14:41.06CIA-1703quetz * r24787 10FuBar_DPS/FuBar_DPS-Locale-enUS.lua: FuBar_DPS: - Typo fix
14:41.07nevcairiellibraries are not supposed to use AceLocale
14:41.20Arrowmasterthey arent?
14:41.51nevcairielthats why all libraries are using the way glory uses
14:42.20Arrowmasteroh i hadnt really looked at other libraries, not many of them have localization
14:43.08CIA-1703adirelle * r24788 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: fixed 'nil argument' error.
14:43.21CIA-1703darkimakuni * r24789 10Postman/ (. Postman.toc):
14:43.21CIA-17Postman:
14:43.21CIA-17- Fixed library loading order
14:43.21CIA-17- Setting properties and externals
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14:46.55CIA-1703beerke * r24790 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.toc:
14:46.55CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
14:46.55CIA-17- Toc update
14:46.55cynyr|asleepmm there is like a 1/8 inch (300mm) of ice on the roads here... don't know if i'm going into work....
14:47.32Tornhoof3mm
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14:48.08cynyr|asleep.3cm, shit!!! thats right 3mm
14:48.15cynyr|asleepbah
14:48.38vithoh god, my addons.. where'd they go :( 2.0.4
14:48.43cynyr|asleepi've been up for likr 10 minutes.. the math is a little fuzzy
14:48.51Adirelle|workpurl, do you know to calculcate
14:48.56purlyes, I know to calculcate.
14:49.02robotuschdumb question, but I was wondering if it is possible to have Grid using the "Show Group 40" layout (ie a 5x8), but still have it sort via class? Or am I missing an option somewhere?
14:49.29vithoh, heh.  the patch unchecked the load out of date option.  thanks blizz.  as if i had yet recovered from the last patch yet
14:49.49vithyet yet yet...  i need sleep
14:50.11cynyr|asleeppatch? didn't we just get one?
14:50.22odtthe US got one i think
14:50.45realistikdoes anybody happen to know the "official" homepage for bartender3?
14:50.46cynyr|asleepyea.. looks that way
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14:51.44ravagernlrealistik: wowace.com/wiki/Bartender3
14:52.00realistikthanks ravagernl
14:52.10zoktaris honorfu accuarate? , says 14k now but on pvp page says i got 7k commin in
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14:52.59CIA-1703arrowmaster * r24791 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory-2.0: fixed adirelle's failure to use tabs instead of spaces *glare*
14:53.04Arrowmasterthen no its not
14:53.09steev64heh
14:53.27cynyrzoktar: i think so... but the bliz one isn't watching bonus honor?
14:53.39Arrowmasterblizz one does watch bonus honor
14:53.47steev64no it doesn't
14:53.55Arrowmasterdoes too
14:54.03odtanyone gotten a TBC disc yet?
14:54.06steev64we will have to agree to disagree
14:54.07odtor already
14:54.12Arrowmasterzoktar: update all your addons in a bit and that bug will go away
14:54.23steev64because when I have ~1500 honor, and blizz
14:54.28steev64shows me as having 200
14:54.44steev64and at 3:30 when its calculated i have 1500...
14:55.03Arrowmasterive tested it, the blizz one counts bonus honor
14:55.18steev64in my tests it hasn't
14:55.22[Ammo]it does for me
14:55.27Arrowmasterwell then your tests failed
14:55.32[Ammo]so your tests are flawed
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14:56.22steev64any patch notes (i can never get em to show up in Cedega)
14:56.58Arrowmasterscroll up some, somebody pasted them
14:57.05cynyrsteev64: not that i saw...
14:57.52steev64cynyr: where?
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14:58.56steev64i hope they stealth fix the rogue poison with it
14:59.07Arrowmaster?
14:59.39steev64main hand poison typically ends 10 minutes early
15:00.10Arrowmasterwhat type of poison?
15:01.03tale_sure that all the charges weren't used up?
15:01.17steev64pretty sure... since crippling doesn't have charges
15:01.31steev64and i always apply at the same time
15:01.43RophyQuetzi: yes?
15:02.03steev64also had it happen with deadly V and instant IV
15:02.03tale_unrelatedly, can someone please let me know whether i'm on crack with some code behaviour i'm observing?
15:02.28zoktarArrowmaster ok
15:02.43tale_it looks to me like there are magical nils.  function calls that return a value which evaluates to nil but then when the server provides the information they magically take on a non-nil value.
15:02.48QuetziRophy, was a typo in FuBar_DPS, just letting you know i fixed it
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15:03.17tale_GetInboxItemText appears to be one such function.   if a message hasn't been opened yet at all, even if it has text in it then when the function is first called it returns nil.
15:03.24Rophyoh?
15:03.29Quetziminor thingy
15:03.34Rophykk
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15:03.52Quetzisesssion instead of session, but bugged me ;)
15:04.06CIA-1703beerke * r24792 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua:
15:04.06CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
15:04.06CIA-17- Locale fix
15:04.08Arrowmasterfuck its 10am, i should goto bed
15:04.13tale_at some point in the future, it becomes non-nil.  i gather this because MailFrame.lua uses the value immediately to do a SetText() which is later filled in.  and subsequent calls to GetInboxItemText don't return nil.
15:04.17tale_am i on crack?
15:04.45tale_and, if not, is there some event to wait for to know when a magic nil suddenly becomes non-nil?
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15:07.01phyberhttp://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m155/Pcharming9/Stayitaintso.jpg?t=1168572052
15:07.06beerkeanyone know the fubar addon (if it is even fubar) that shopws the experience bar as a line under the fubar ?
15:07.15phyberFuXPFu
15:07.29cynyrwell 2.0.5 will keep the damn pet window from poping up after i close it...
15:07.31[Ammo]what phyber says :p
15:07.44beerkedamn, then i ddowned wrong one :)
15:07.48Tornhoofyeh phyber, but not on the european beta servers ;/
15:08.08steev64cynyr: you play a hunter? :(
15:08.40cynyrsteev64: no a rogue, but i during the world event last patch, i pulled out the pet frame, and it kept comming up...
15:09.16steev64i don't follow
15:09.23steev64you pulled out the pet frame?
15:09.24Arrowmasterraid frame
15:09.27steev64ah
15:09.28steev64ok
15:09.49steev64i've not been in a raid in a while(tm)
15:10.35cynyrsame here but the top 3 horde guilds took over the whole crater, and most of the blasted lands, during that event
15:10.58steev64speaking of which
15:11.07steev64i need to do that quest
15:11.17cynyrthe kill 6 felgaurds?
15:11.43steev64yeah
15:11.52Tornhoofget yourself a shaman in your group, tell him to place magma totem und afk ;)
15:12.04steev64or is that over now?
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15:12.25Locorlget a paladin spaming consecration
15:12.34cynyrsame here steev, i think i have a lvl 15 UD war
15:12.56steev6417 ud rogue, 20 ud mage, 32 ud warrior (on my main server)
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15:18.43ThorgardI found it was easier to tag the Invading Felguards in all that AoE spam as a hunter.
15:19.04ThorgardExploding trap power.
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15:20.12CIA-1703bima * r24793 10Postman/localization.lua: Postman: fixed English keys for two strings in frFR. no other changes (modularization still in development)
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15:20.52johRight, so agUF is quite bugged atm?
15:21.34[Ammo]don't think so
15:21.45nevcairielnah
15:21.49nevcairielworks fine for me
15:22.06[Ammo]I just suspect it's causing lockups when someone joins a battleground midcombat
15:22.07[Ammo]grr
15:22.16[Ammo]either that or SpecialEvents-Aura or something
15:22.20[Ammo]or RosterLib ofcourse
15:22.23[Ammo]but can't pin it down
15:22.34CIA-1703bima * r24794 10TalentSafe/ (README.txt TalentSafe.lua TalentSafe.toc): TalentSafe: updated toc interface version. code was tested post-patch (go go gadget rogue and druid reset)
15:22.37johI experience two things: 1. the fubar config menu doesn't work. 2. The castbar option is bugged so that when it's disabled there's still a yellow bar under the frame.
15:22.42nevcairieli havent had that
15:22.57restoredonly problem I have with agUF atm is that stunned mobs dont loose targets.
15:22.58cynyrjoh: have you updtaed it recently?
15:23.17johcynyr: I just updated it a couple of minutes ago
15:23.30[Ammo]nevcairiel: well I get lockups when somenoe joins a battleground when I am in combat
15:23.41[Ammo]I still get the [Someone-SomeServer has joined the battle.]
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15:23.46[Ammo]but not the 'has joined the raid group.'
15:23.53[Ammo]because it goes into an infinite loop
15:23.56[Ammo]or sometihng
15:23.57nevcairielhm
15:24.00nevcairielweird
15:24.03[Ammo]yeah
15:24.07nevcairielive been doing battlegrounds all morning
15:24.09[Ammo]trying to nail down the addon that causes it
15:24.18nevcairielmaybe i never had someone joining in combat
15:24.20nevcairielwho knows
15:24.21Klazarit needs acouple of libs now it seems. check your addon panel in WoW UI for list of dependicies IO forget which ones they ar
15:25.03[Ammo]nevcairiel: it usually happens when I run to galvanaar
15:25.06[Ammo]and someone joins AV late
15:25.13[Ammo]while fighting galv
15:25.20[Ammo]happens 50% of the time that someone joins up during that fight
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15:25.47[Ammo]just need to figure out which addon is barfing
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15:26.05nevcairielhm
15:26.08Klazarwhat mods do i need to add some translucent backround boxes on the bottm of my UI. XArt? what else? thnx
15:26.13nevcairielin AV someone has to be joined in combat
15:26.14nevcairieltrue
15:26.18nevcairielbut i didnt get any errors
15:26.37[Ammo]I don't get an error either
15:26.39[Ammo]it just hangs :p
15:26.45[Ammo]started happening just after xmas
15:26.50Icerothi've had that too
15:26.53sbuhmm since prat fixes ~everything that blizzard breaks
15:26.54Icerothended up disconnecting me
15:27.04sbuWTB: raid frame fix (promote, kick, etc.)
15:27.04[Ammo]could be it eventually disconnects you
15:27.19[Ammo]iceroth: found out what was causing it?
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15:27.40Icerothnope :-/
15:27.46Icerothreally hard to track it down too
15:27.47[Ammo]so it's still happening for you as well?
15:27.49Icerothdoesn't happen every time
15:27.54[Ammo]indeed
15:27.55nevcairielsbu: tomorrow hopefully
15:27.55Icerothlast time yesterday
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15:27.58Adirelle|workarrowmaster: do you have something against me ?
15:28.00[Ammo]seems to be some kind of racecondition
15:28.09restoredany updates to onebag/onebank on the horizon ?
15:28.25realistikonebag/onebank working fine for me
15:28.28Icerothi was dead in AB when i joined AV, i saw the AV entrance cave and then everything froze
15:28.47cynyrone[bag,bank,view] work here
15:29.16odtcynyr: oneview doesn't update for me
15:29.21[Ammo]I think rosterlib is a likely suspect
15:29.21odtand it shows characters twice
15:29.24[Ammo]but not sure what would cause it
15:29.54cynyrodt: well truthfully i haven't changed anything in my bank in a while, so if it's not updating i have no idea
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15:30.39Grinezomg wowace.com sitill down?
15:30.57Icerothcould be some tainting issue as well.. i've had those 20+ second screen freezes and then thousands of taint error messages in bugsack
15:31.28[Ammo]hmm
15:31.35[Ammo]I never waited 20+ seconds
15:31.37[Ammo]since it froze
15:31.55Icerothyesterday was the first time i got dc from it
15:32.00Icerothassuming it was the same case
15:32.02cynyrGrine: it seems up but it's very very slow here
15:32.17Grinecynyr, okay
15:32.18Icerothbut usually it keeps me in game and just shows 1000+ errors in bugsack
15:33.04[Ammo]hmm
15:33.08realistiknevcairiel: Thanks for all the work you put into bartender
15:33.14[Ammo]could be bugsack then that's causing the lag
15:33.17[Ammo]or the hangup
15:33.26[Ammo]with all it's stacktraces
15:33.28Icerothperhaps but the errors are real
15:33.32[Ammo]if it's 1000+
15:33.38Adirelle|workArrowmaster: ping
15:33.42[Ammo]might try playing without it enabled
15:33.44[Ammo]see what happens
15:33.51ArrowmasterAdirelle|work: nah just messing around, but try to keep the formating consistant
15:34.09Iceroththat might actually help.. since it tries to capture them all at once
15:34.17[Ammo]yeah
15:34.25Adirelle|workI understand that, but it is needed that your log comment looks so aggressive ?
15:34.27[Ammo]it's annoying me to hell
15:34.42[Ammo]since I get kicked from the AV
15:34.48[Ammo]and have to get in the queue again for 10 mins :)
15:34.55Iceroth10 mins?
15:35.10[Ammo]yeah
15:35.14[Ammo]10 min queues approx
15:35.16Icerothmy av queue is 1h 10min in avarage :|
15:35.20[Ammo]depending on time of day
15:35.31[Ammo]4min -> 12 min
15:35.40cynyri'm not play BG's with capable things right now...
15:35.52Icerothmeh, wtb your queues
15:35.56zirah_3h on my server
15:36.03Locorllol, ores now stack in lots of 20
15:36.06Icerothab and wsg are rarely under 20mins, av is always 1h+
15:36.14[Ammo]oh they do locorl?
15:36.28[Ammo]cool I can clean up my jewelcrafting stuff a bit :P
15:36.28Locorlwhere's wobin to update mrplow
15:36.33Matrix110|Iceroth your Battlegroup must suck:P
15:36.35durcynav is down to two minutes on my realm.  stupid bugs.
15:36.37Matrix110|or the balance there atleast
15:36.44xordoquysounds very very long BG
15:36.55IcerothMatrix110|, tell me about it
15:37.07Icerothhorde must enjoy
15:37.07durcynthough it apparently affects the ossirian crystals as well, can click from 30 yards now
15:37.18cynyrwow the tutorials on wow ace are out of date.. unless "Interface: 1800" is correct
15:37.41stavmardoes anyone have a suggestion for a good cooldown barmod that is ace
15:37.50HealthoCD ?
15:37.54durcynstavmar: CooldownTimers2
15:38.08Arrowmasteromnicc
15:38.11stavmarI am currently using oCD but i cannot figure out how to scale it down?
15:38.23stavmaromniCC is a clock i am looking for bars
15:38.30stavmarCooldowntimers are bars?
15:38.32durcynoCD doesn't scan the spellbook, you have to have the spell on a supported bar.
15:38.36durcyncdt2 is candybars
15:38.43stavmarsweet thanks
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15:39.17xordoquydoes cdt2 work well now ? I can't figure why it didn't put lay on hands in its timers
15:39.41durcynit works for spells that activate cooldowns on cast
15:39.51stavmarthat is what i am looking for?
15:39.51durcynthings like slice-and-dice and combustion are still not working correctly
15:40.03xordoquyI personnaly use Cooldown Bars 2 (not ace2 iirc)
15:40.15durcynstavmar: try it and find out =)
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15:40.41Matrix110the timeout here is pretty long i must say...
15:40.54stavmardurcyn, i am doing that right now thanks
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15:43.29Bakkodamorning
15:44.49Boydon_sbu: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5888/blizzard-raidui-fix/
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15:45.45Icerothoh, some tainting issue almost drove me nuts yesterday, i tried the new class pullout things in ab, tried to hid them but something always put them back up with a nice taint error message >.<
15:46.00[Ammo]hmm
15:46.02Frittiis there a working versino of TrackerFu?
15:46.26KarlThePaganI thougt someone made a display-only version
15:46.38cynyrIceroth: thats a bug in bliz's cod afiak, something about it in the 2.0.5 notes
15:46.42Frittiimpossible to make it select skills?
15:46.53KarlThePagannot without secure template fubar
15:46.56cynyrs/cod/code/
15:46.58KarlThePagannot happening afaik
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15:47.15Frittik
15:47.31durcynyou can display the tracking texture, just not change it
15:47.33KarlThePaganmaybe someone will make a minimap click tracker
15:47.37Icerothcynyr, ah ok, thanks, won't pull more hair out because of it
15:47.48durcyni've just been using T_Tracking
15:47.52cynyrIceroth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1&pageNo=1
15:48.06Elkano\o/ got my Finkle :) with 53 ^^
15:48.33Grinelol elkano
15:48.46CIA-1703totalpackage * r24799 10/branches/StellarUF/ (. StellarUF.toc):
15:48.46CIA-17StellarUF:
15:48.46CIA-17- commit for externals/testing
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15:49.13Elkanoonly the 58 hunter cried a bit ;)
15:49.48[dRaCo]u are so lucky...
15:50.08Icerothis 2.0.4 some kind of "hotfix" and 2.0.5 coming in 1-2 months as usual?
15:50.13[dRaCo]got mine like a week ago... and I started WoW as soon as it got released.
15:50.22durcynIceroth: expect 2.0.4 as a bugfix next tuesday
15:50.51AmadeoDon't worry, they'll have plenty of time to fix bugs when the servers are down for a week after TBC release :P
15:50.59steev64[dRaCo]: i know the feeling, i've been playing for a bout 16 months now, and still don't have my SC tunic
15:51.05Icerothall the stuff i care about is in 2.0.5 -.-
15:51.10cynyrElkano: lol, i've got both finkles and the zg one.. and i'm thinking about getting the +5 enchant on gloves, so that when it comes down to who get to skin the beast i say whoever has the highest skinning
15:51.57cynyrsteev64: you are gonna hate me.. i've been playing for a year, and i'm now a T2/T1 rogue
15:52.03Antiarc_I just hope they fixed that damned shammy cap bug.
15:52.08Elkano[dRaCo], I did, too ^^ it was a guild internal run... lot's of T1/T2 guys and a few twinks
15:52.09steev64cynyr: im not in a raiding guild :(
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15:52.12cynyrAntiarc_:  /agree
15:52.15AmadeoAntiarc_: Which?
15:52.16cynyrsteev64: ahh
15:52.26Antiarc_Having 4 of 5 nodes capped within 15 sec of the game starting completely destroys my will to play.
15:52.32Amadeohow do they do it?
15:52.33steev64so for me, .5/pvp is the best im gonna get till tuesday
15:52.34Antiarc_Amadeo: Shaman can cap nodes with Far Sight as of 2.0.3.
15:52.38Amadeohahahaha
15:52.40durcynit's not shamans
15:52.44cynyrAmadeo: they can cap nodes/flags from like 230000000 yards
15:52.46Antiarc_Far sight to a node, click, they cap.
15:52.49Amadeothat's hilarious
15:52.51durcynit's all horde.  the cap animations just uses far sight animation.
15:52.53abbat_wHunter can cap too
15:53.12abbat_wAnd maybe scope can help any class to cap flag from away
15:53.14Bakkodaalli can do it as well it just a lot harder. have had it happen several times today on both sides
15:53.21MackaNgrryep i capped stormpike the other day from behind a tree :p
15:53.23MackaNgrras drood
15:53.35Antiarc_I wonder if that's related to the "Sight zooms now actually zoom" change
15:53.39durcynthe range check for clicking nodes for horde faction is broken is all, goes out to 30 yards
15:53.49durcynsame bug affects the ossirian crystals for everyone
15:53.50abbat_wbtw
15:54.02abbat_wmaybe jumping with scope allowed again?
15:54.17Bakkodayeah we did ossi last night and a shammy stodd on the rock and ticked all the crystals
15:54.18WilkesCould anyone recommend a decent battleground addon?  Specifically, I'm trying to get something that'll make it easier to target the current flag carrier.
15:54.27durcynWilkes: Capping.
15:54.36abbat_wcapping, yep
15:54.41BakkodaBGassist has a target asssister also
15:54.44WilkesThanks, I'll get it :)
15:55.00Arrowmasterthe only way to target the current flag carrier is to /target name
15:55.03Antiarc_Question: Anyone know of a "services advertisement" addon?
15:55.10durcynCapping has progress bars for ab/av captures, flag respawns, adds a class-colored name of the carrier to the score frame in wsg
15:55.25durcynand you can in fact click it.  only caveat is if you're in combat while the carrier changes.
15:55.41Antiarc_For example, a mage can register themselves as willing-to-portal for a fee of X, or a rogue can advertise as willing-to-lockpick for a fee of X, and then you could query for people in your zone that provide a service you want, see their prices, and find one to use.
15:56.06WilkesS'fine, better than nothing :)
15:56.13Antiarc_If not, I'm writing one. >_>
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15:57.45durcynAntiarc: i know of none.  how exactly do you intend to synch that across an entire realm though?
15:58.05stavmar_is anyone else having a problem with their chat windows not maintaining their font sizes. I set my font size then when I try to queue up to WSG they reset to default as soon as the queueu window opens up any thoughts?
15:58.16durcynstavmar_: using prat?
15:58.20Antiarcdurcyn: You'd have to have an agreed-upon channel, similar to FlagRSP, which sucks, but eh, I think people would consider it worth it.
15:58.28nevcairieli still wonder why prat forces the font size like that
15:58.28AntiarcPeople used a channel slot for ctraid forever and a half.
15:58.41nevcairielits silly
15:58.46stavmar_durcyn, aye i am
15:58.53durcynnevcairiel: if you have the fontsize module turned on, why shouldn't it?
15:58.55AntiarcYou just need a query-response protocol. Nothing too fancy.
15:59.03durcynstavmar_: set the size trough prat or disable the fontsize module
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15:59.13cynyrAntiarc_: can you make it work for a guild too? as in "i can make leather_item1, item2, item3" and mage2 can make "robes of the pwn, pants of death" and as lng as there is more than one person in guild your DB can be sync'ed to thiers(if newer)? or is that wayyyy too much work
15:59.18stavmar_thanks
15:59.26nevcairieldurcyn: its default on, and nearly everyone asks the question where that "bug" comes from.
16:00.02durcynnevcairiel: i guess i'm strange then.  when i install mods that touch the chat frame, i poke around their options...
16:00.04Antiarccynyr: There are various addons that do guild-synching for that kind of thing. I'm not looking to build a roster of "who can do this when they get online", but "who can do this right now?"
16:00.16Arrowmastersyncing large databases like that tend to be resource heavy i think, guildcalender used to use 20kb/s when people were sending messages to my guilds gc channel
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16:00.35cynyrAntiarc: ahh, i haven't seen any with a persistant DB of that info
16:00.38Vanishdurcyn, most people in here are like you. Unfortunately we're not like most people "out there"
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16:00.59Antiarccynyr: I've thought about doing a p2p sort of synch system like that for various things, but in the end, I just don't thikn it'd be worth the trouble. :D
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16:01.20Vanish|Kev|: Ping
16:01.25|Kev|pong
16:01.44Vanish|Kev|: I got the 4 icons designed last night. I will get them exported as icns for you tonight.
16:01.45nevcairielplus, the Prat in front of every module in /prat enabledmodules is kinda weird. its somewhat redundant
16:01.57|Kev|Vanish: fantastic, thanks :)
16:01.58durcynAntiarc: even something simple like general crafting professions would be spiffy.
16:03.13Antiarcdurcyn: Yeah, was thinking of including that, too
16:03.16_neuron_anyone having problems with cartographer lately?  I'm getting database not registered errors on inflight and mining.
16:03.26AntiarcJust tick off "willing to do for this fee with mats, this fee without mats"
16:03.31AntiarcThen let people query that.
16:03.40AntiarcThink of the amount of spam it'd cut down!
16:03.46AntiarcAnd it would let buyers "shop around".
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16:05.03CIA-1703totalpackage * r24800 10/branches/StellarUF/core.lua:
16:05.03CIA-17StellarUF:
16:05.03CIA-17- Ok, now it's ready
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16:07.32mexicaanhi, the unit frames of party pets arent'showing for me( im sure the're enabled), is this a common problem and does anyone know how i can make them visible ?
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16:09.03[dRaCo]prolly tainted.
16:09.04mexicaanim using aguf
16:09.23Vanishmexicaan: /aguf pettest
16:09.28[Ammo]aguf does not have partypet support atm
16:10.26Antiarcis dev.wowace.com down?
16:10.48VanishThey are in there, but hidden because of a Blizzard bug, which is supposed to be fixed in 2.0.3 so they will be made available via the interface shortly, I believe.
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16:10.56abbat_w2.0.5 fix this problem with pet bars
16:10.58Adirelle|workI thought about a addon to maintain a wishlist database for guildmates, but... how to ensure they update properly between officers...
16:11.05[dRaCo]I'm still having that weird issue with Click2Cast, it won't let me cast anything on my party frames.
16:11.10[dRaCo]Anyone got an idea?
16:12.44AntiarcTried Clique? ;)
16:13.01[dRaCo]no, not yet... click2cast works great except for that
16:13.20[dRaCo]and it's pretty easy to use
16:13.40VanishI abandoned Clique for Click2Cast
16:13.40[dRaCo]think it's better?
16:13.56[Ammo]Click2Cast misses some features Clique has
16:14.04WogroiplI have Click2Cast also instead of Clique
16:14.09[Ammo]the [harmful] [helpful] etc stuff
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16:14.24nee-lapsame here. because I like having addons which are updated using WAU :)
16:14.34[dRaCo]well, I'm not missing anything
16:14.35Wogroiplthe only thing is that C2C won't let you use multi-line macro's
16:14.39VanishAmmo: You can write macros that do that and fire them off using C2C
16:15.03[Ammo]Vanish: I know
16:15.11[dRaCo]Who wrote c2c?
16:15.12[Ammo]but Clique just has the clicksets per type
16:15.17[Ammo]ag` started it
16:15.28[Ammo]so I have a friendly clickset etc
16:15.31[Ammo]I like that
16:15.44CIA-1703antiarc * r24802 10Sanity2/SanityItemCache.lua: Sanity2: Added a fix to the DB upgrade code. Trying to stamp out a few remaining bugs. This is drycode; please report if it breaks.
16:15.50Adirelle|workhmm... RunMacroText isn't secure, is it ?
16:16.19[dRaCo]so noone's got an idea 'bout what might cause that weird behaviour?
16:16.25VanishAmmo: Ahhh. Yeah that is kinda nice, but I don't use it to that level
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16:17.46VanishStoopid question of the morning for me: If you use FuBar_FactionsFu and set the faction watched in a zone does it retain it between entries into that zone so Diplomat is not needed?
16:18.33Elkanoshould
16:19.04Elkanoit will store the last faction you had and restore that when you enter a zone without set auto-zone
16:19.12VanishOh, Hi Elk!
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16:19.57CIA-17StellarUF:
16:19.57CIA-17- initial commit to trunk
16:19.57Adirelle|workmaybe you have to enable autochange on zoning tho
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16:19.57Sroshyeah, [Ammo], that's why I went back to Clique too
16:19.57[Ammo]I never left clique
16:19.57[Ammo]hehe
16:19.57[Ammo]I use whatever works best
16:19.58[Ammo]regardless if it's Ace or not
16:19.58[dRaCo]ok, another question: is there anyway to debug the clicks?
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16:20.06CIA-17gfxToggle2:
16:20.06CIA-17- fixed simpleMinimap fix again (nether should cause an issue again)
16:20.06CIA-17- TOC change to 20003
16:20.09[dRaCo]s/anyway/any way/
16:20.11VanishSo, I can set the faction per zone in FactionsFu and it will autochange as I enter/leave zones? Sweet! I'm sick of Diplomat spamming my chat as I fly about
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16:20.38Trancerwonder how hard it would be to implement OnHostile 'stanceswap' to Bartender3
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16:21.10Adirelle|workVanish: yep, though you have to be in a zone to set the faction
16:21.12CIA-1703neriak * r24805 10Fence/ (Core.lua Fence.toc):
16:21.12CIA-17Fence:
16:21.12CIA-17- TOC changed to 20003
16:21.14RaydenUnicyclistwow bartender keeps swapping my bar3 and my bar5 spells
16:21.16sylvanaar~PAB
16:21.26purli guess pab is important to chat mods, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62188847&sid=1&pageNo=1, or the Pet Action Bar
16:21.26Adirelle|workcan't enter a list of zone-faction while standing in IF...
16:21.59VanishAdirelle: That's fine. I had to do that for Diplomat too
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16:22.36Adirelle|workI'm just missing restriction the faction display length
16:22.50Adirelle|workin french some faction eats 20% of the bar...
16:23.01CIA-1703neriak * r24806 10FruityLoots/ (FruityLoots.lua FruityLoots.toc): FruityLoots - TOC update 20003
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16:23.38CIA-1703neriak * r24807 10Paparazzi/ (Paparazzi.lua Paparazzi.toc):
16:23.38CIA-17Paparazzi:
16:23.38CIA-17- TOC update 20003
16:23.45VanishAdirelle: Actually, i cheated with Diplomat. Once I set a few zones, I manually edited the file to add in the rest when I could see the syntax required. Heh
16:24.24VanishElkano: Any news on those new buff bars?
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16:24.58Elkanonope, haven't had taht much time to go on coding them lately
16:25.11sylvanaar[Ammo]: you want to standardize the format off your lod unpacking with the bats i have for !!!StdLilbraries? maybe sew if we can use a common process ecerywhere
16:25.12Sroshcan someone recommend a lightweight mod that adds %s to the ratings in the item tooltips?
16:25.19Silviu--totalpackage are u here ?
16:25.29VanishElkano: Ahh. Okie. One of my favorite mods, so I'm impatient. ;D
16:25.31durcynSilviu--: RatingsBuster
16:25.37durcyner srosh
16:25.48Sroshthanks, gonna check it out
16:26.06kagarohas anyone looted a blood of heroes lately?
16:26.21durcynI seem to recall ItemBonusesFu also converting to percents in its tooltip
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16:28.15Adirelle|workcya
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16:35.38CIA-1703phyber * r24809 10/tags/FuBar_GroupFu/:
16:35.38CIA-17FuBar_GroupFu:
16:35.38CIA-17- Create tags directory.
16:36.16CIA-1703phyber * r24810 10/ (tags/FuBar_GroupFu/v11200/ trunk/FuBar_GroupFu/):
16:36.16CIA-17FuBar_GroupFu:
16:36.17CIA-17- Tagging old version before moving vhaarr's branch into trunk.
16:36.59[Ammo]sylvanaar: what do you mean?
16:37.35CIA-1703phyber * r24811 10FuBar_GroupFu/:
16:37.35CIA-17FuBar_GroupFu:
16:37.35CIA-17- Copy vhaarr's branch into trunk.
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16:42.03Maranathaanyone home?
16:42.13ThorgardNo, go away!
16:42.14Maranatha: )
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16:47.28steev64hm
16:47.55cncfanaticsyo all :)
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16:49.00AmadeoJust gotta love Blizzard...they offer free character transfers off of overcrowded realms, but since they screwed it up, my characters won't be playable until after TBC is released
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16:49.54cncfanaticsu miss a few days ? who cares ? -.-
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16:50.02cncfanaticsexcept if ur in a lvl'ing contest that is
16:50.10_Truc2OufCamHi ppl
16:50.11Maranathawhats worse is they announced it for our server and then give you 4 days to move
16:50.14Amadeowith as many problems as there will be when TBC is out, I'll probably miss a month :P
16:50.19Azurewraththe character transfers are screwed up for weeks.. at least in EU. The Girlfriend of a guildie who wanted to transfer to our realm had her char stuck in there for like 2-3 weeks..
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16:50.41AmadeoYeah, except if you pay for it, I bet you get through in minutes
16:50.51Azurewraththat _was_ a paid transfer.
16:50.54Amadeohahaa
16:50.55Amadeoor not
16:51.01Amadeothat's sad!
16:51.02AzurewrathWell, at least she got it for free afterall..
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16:51.21AmadeoMy biggest worry is that with so many people transferring, taht the new server will be overcrowded :P
16:51.30cncfanaticstransfers are limited
16:51.39AmadeoServer populations are, too!
16:51.47Amadeobut they're still overcrowded on some servers
16:52.13cncfanaticspopulation ain't directly limited --.
16:52.17Azurewrathour Realm is like 8th or something in EU when it comes to total chars.. but we rarely have any waiting lines..
16:52.19cncfanaticsu can always create a char on whatever server you like
16:52.28Amadeoyeah, it's just queue limited
16:53.02cncfanaticswell, migration is - hard - limited
16:53.12cncfanaticsu cant migrate anymore if blizz decides the server is full
16:53.19AmadeoBlizzard does a bad job at managing server populations
16:53.21Amadeothey could do it easily
16:53.21Barbanusthey turn off char creation for new characters (if you dont have any chars on that server), if the server has queues regularly
16:53.38AmadeoThey keep making brand new servers when some servers are overpopulated and some are underpopulated...makes no sense
16:53.39evlAnyone know why oCD doesn't catch Mortal Strike?
16:53.47add\\Leialynis there any fontchanger addon except Clearfont? or maybe a prat module? ;P
16:53.57AmadeoThey should funnel overpopulated realms to underpopulated realms, even out all of the popluations, then work on new servers
16:55.46sbuAzurewrath: but top downtimes ;p
16:55.51Maranathayou should be able to simply log into any server you wnat : )
16:56.00steev64is there a way to download an older version of uFriends and uGuild?
16:56.03Azurewrathsbu: true ;)
16:56.35sbugnnl
16:57.10Barbanuswow, paladins are getting nerf threads now about their dps? never thought I would see the day.
16:57.27AmadeoClass balance is pretty screwed in TBC :P
16:57.44CIA-1703karlthepagan * r24812 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):
16:57.44CIA-17Grouper:
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16:58.45KemayoNightHawkTheSane: You pang?
16:58.46durcynBarbanus: the 35% spell damage/healing holy talent was accidently applied to melee damage since 2.0.0, it was fixed in 2.0.3 and all the bib-wearing retribution paladins are complaining again.
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17:00.07Barbanusdurcyn, oh, I'm aware of that bug :P
17:00.22Barbanus700 white crits with my 1h 40 dps healing weapon :P
17:00.51cncfanaticsSilly
17:01.00Panyeis oRA2 still Ace?
17:01.30packetlssPanye: Ace2
17:01.41cncfanaticsckknight, u around ?
17:01.54Panyeyeah thats what I meant :P
17:02.20Silviu--Which is better from Clique and click2cast
17:06.30ThorgardSilviu-, try 'me both, see which one you like.
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17:06.33Thorgard*'em
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17:06.37Funkeh`Silviu--: try them both and choose for yourself which you like best
17:06.43Funkeh`:p
17:09.58Silviu--...
17:10.01Silviu--ok
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17:12.20Hockhi, all
17:12.40Hockquestion about the updated Prat.
17:13.10Hockit looks like it has string replacement capability but i'm not able to actually figure out how it's done.
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17:14.41ThorgardHock, it does? :o
17:16.15wereHamster|awaywhat's the correct naming of Fubar plugins? FuBar_[addon]Fu?
17:16.31tale_yes
17:17.00ThorgardwereHamster, more like FuBar_[addon], I'd say the ending 'Fu' isn't mendatory. ;P
17:17.12Thorgard*mandatory
17:17.36durcynwereHamster: assuming its meant to be a fubar module specifically.  other things like bigwigs and ora that happen to have fubarplugins shouldn't necessarily be prefixed with FuBar_.  But if it's meant to live on the bar, i would.
17:17.36Hocki mean i think it looks like it has string replacement.
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17:17.48wereHamsterit will be a configuration 'frontend' for one of my addons
17:17.49ThorgardHock, why do you get that impression?
17:17.51Hockif you right click on the fubar menu for prat, i don't remember the exact verbage but it alludes to "replacement" ... and something to do with "favoriates"
17:17.58CIA-1703usz * r24815 10TooltipExchange/ (Core.lua Modules/Scanner.lua Modules/UI.lua):
17:17.58CIA-17TooltipExchange
17:17.59CIA-17- Fixed item links pattern matching to include negative id parts
17:17.59CIA-17- Added listing invalid items
17:17.59CIA-17- Added option to load invalid item links appearing in chat into local item cache
17:17.59CIA-17- Added option to item context menu to mine invalid item
17:17.59Hockfavorites*
17:18.20Hocki'm not at my gaming computer right now so i can't look to tell you exactly
17:18.24ThorgardHock, yes, the 'favorites' stuff is to add the module's options directly to the main menu.
17:18.48Hockbut i've talked to sylvanaar before about that capability (getting tired of seeing "rouge" instead of "rogue" is what prompted me to suggest that feature)
17:18.54Hockand he said it was a good idea.
17:19.01Funkeh`later
17:19.03wereHamsterI was thinking about [addon]Fu
17:19.55Hockif you guys want to waste an hour or two:  http://novelconcepts.co.uk/FlashElementTD/
17:20.13HockTower Defense: 1  Hock@work: 0
17:21.11durcynHock: the "enable text replacement" portion is internal to Prat only.  It is required for any module colored in blue on the dewdrop to function correctly, i.e. PlayerNames.
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17:24.13Panyeany kind of Ace fishinng mod?
17:24.18Hockso at present, the user can't specify his own changes?
17:24.31Hocke.g. replace "rouge" with "rogue"
17:24.32ChinkuPanye:  have you tried cartographer_fishing?
17:25.16CIA-1703beerke * r24816 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua:
17:25.16CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
17:25.16CIA-17- Locale Fix
17:25.21durcynPanye: define "fishing mod"
17:25.22cncfanaticskergoth, ckknight, any of u both around ?
17:25.47Panyechinku: I havent no, been meaning to, I'm guessing it stores where you find certain fish on the map, was looking along the lines of fishing buddy
17:26.19Panyedurcyn: something along the lines of fishing buddy, but Ace :P
17:27.06durcynPanye: as chinku mentioned, the Cartographer Fishing module will show you what swims where, but if you're looking for something to change gear or auto cast fish on right click on water, it doesn't really exist.
17:27.18ThorgardHock, nope, don't think so.
17:27.55Chinkugnarf, who the f*ck told blizz to spawn kruul in front of IF? o.O
17:28.14Panyeok thanks very much
17:29.24durcynPanye: though i bet you could easily set up a ClosetGnome bind to equip your pole and +fishing items.
17:31.24EnalungBy the time I'm done with fubar, if I don't know how to use it... (Yes, I've been working on that for a while and it's getting frustrating)
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17:32.33Panyeregarding tinytooltip is there a way to remove the health bar below the tooltip?
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17:32.55sbuChinku: he's in IF here...
17:33.00sbuand still alive :p
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17:34.14Chinkusbu: his spawning place is said to be the "duel area" just in front of IF. no surprise then, that he's gonna visit the AH to do some shopping... -.-
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17:35.22durcynouch.  that's going to leave a few marks.
17:37.17durcyn~seen grennon
17:37.38purlgrennon <n=jeramy@user-0cdv8vd.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 36m 13s ago, saying: 'NightHawkTheSane: but thank you anyway for helping a very sleepy coder who just couldnt admit to himself to that he had the wrong function'.
17:38.11AmadeoI have no idea where I'm going to get TBC on the 16th, I'm worried about it now!
17:39.36Hockmindspring? they're still around?
17:40.05AmadeoI think they're owned by Earthlink now or something
17:40.20cncfanaticscan someone please help me with aceOO ? I'm having probs
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17:40.54cncfanaticsnvm, found it :p
17:41.42Sincerityhi all - few questons (i have searched but failed to find the following) 1) Click2Heal mod like clique, 2) Map mod like ctmapmod, 3) any mod which adds quest levels to quest log?
17:42.02CIA-1703karlthepagan * r24817 10Grouper/GrouperCore.lua:
17:42.03CIA-17Grouper:
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17:42.04Sinceritycould anyone please help me on those? trying to create 100% ace2 ui :)
17:42.14cncfanaticsone second Sincerity
17:42.51cncfanaticsfor quest levels, I suggest you get a simple mode from curse, takes a few lines of code and its not worth ace'ing
17:43.03cncfanaticsfor a mapmod u can use Cartographj
17:43.29cncfanaticsand Click2Cast should do it for clicking
17:43.36KarlThePaganFuBar_QuestFu will do the questlog stuff
17:43.49KarlThePaganand provide a sexy FuBar menu for your quests
17:44.05Sinceritythank you :D
17:44.09KarlThePaganso yea it's a little overkill compared to what you want
17:44.19Hockis click2heal better than clique?
17:44.26cncfanaticsno idea, i'm a mage so never tried either :p
17:44.29Hocki find clique pretty svelte.
17:44.33KlazarDitto on QuestFu, nice job on that
17:45.01CIA-1703nimbal 07Nimbal * r24818 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
17:45.01CIA-17Buffalo (Branch):
17:45.01CIA-17- Fixed a few typos
17:45.01CIA-17- Reworked layout system to container system
17:45.39cncfanaticslol, wowace is working at 5 kb/s -.-$
17:47.06sl8r88grr. this 2.0.4 gonna kill us again.
17:47.52durcyndon't tell me they're bumping the toc to 20004
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17:49.00Lysitheadoes CIA-17 got some coloring on the nick part? It's black on my black backgroun in irc :/
17:49.05CIA-1703kagaro * r24819 10CryptoLib/CryptoLib.toc: CryptoLib: updated toc
17:49.19Teazleyes it does
17:49.20Lysitheaif so, which color is it?
17:49.22kagaro|lunchgahh it went to 20004 ?
17:49.27Teazleits mirc color 3
17:49.30Teazleie dark green
17:49.35LysitheaTy
17:49.47durcynkagaro|lunch: dunno, that's what i was asking
17:51.01LysitheaYay, I see the names again
17:51.02Lysitheaty:)
17:51.19kergothhehe, on the lua list:
17:51.19kergoth"This is a 1 time project we need to create a program to extract data of
17:51.19kergothWorld of Warcraft game
17:51.20kergothand update it to a website.
17:51.20kergoth"
17:52.24kagaro|workkergoth:  you buys right now ?
17:52.27CIA-1703kagaro * r24820 10RC4Lib/RC4Lib.toc: RC4Lib: updated toc
17:52.32kagaro|works/buys/busy/
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17:53.19kergothsomewhat. at work, but having trouble concentrating
17:53.49kergothNimbal: nice job on the branch buffalo, looks like it has a lot of potential :)
17:54.04kagaro|workwhen you get a chance can you look at Talismonger? I just want a 2nd set of eyes to check over the metatable cod eI did
17:54.11snirkskergoth: is it possible to add a field to wowace.com/files that tells the WAU what kind of genre it is? so that the WAU writer can let users sort addons based on genre? (bars, unitframes and so on)
17:54.22kergothask kael, i dont have access to the site stuff
17:54.30kergothkagaro|work: sure, what is it?
17:54.38snirksKaelten: is that you?
17:54.49snirkskergoth: kaelten?
17:54.58kagaro|worka small lib to get skills needed for herbs/ore/fish and to identify herb/ore/fish nodes
17:55.25kagaro|workit was stuff in babble-ore/fish/herbs i refactored out
17:55.33renchapcan someone give me a link to 2.0.4 patchnotes ?
17:55.37Nimbalkergoth: Thanks. I want to be mostly done with it till Tuesday. I have other things to do then. *g*
17:56.12snirksNimbal: could you tell me whats new in buffalo? i tried it right after bc
17:56.26kergothsnirks: yep, thatd be him
17:56.29renchaphuhu, extention boxes are avaible in paris ^^
17:56.30snirkskergoth: thanks
17:56.37renchapa friend have his collector
17:57.00snirkskaelten: is it possible to add a field to wowace.com/files that tells the WAU what kind of genre it is? so that the WAU writer can let users sort addons based on genre? (bars, unitframes and so on)
17:57.33pastamancersnirks: there's a thread on the forums for that
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17:57.56snirkspastamancer: thanks. ill check it out
17:58.17Azurewrathnice.. EU End-of-Beta events started
17:58.23SarozOMG?
17:58.26Sarozneed to see!
17:58.30pastamancerSaroz: that gratuity bug is a good one :)
17:58.37AzurewrathShattrath is on fire currently
17:58.48NimbalIt' not limited to buffs, debuffs and weapon enchants of the player and can basically display any unit's buffs. Target, raidX, partyX, pet.... anything that's watched by SE-Aura. The buffs can be sorted too. Labels, timers... well, let's just say, a lot of other things are in now.
17:58.49Azurewrathand there were the Huge Infernals from the WoW beta ending
17:59.08Sarozniiice
17:59.11Sarozyea pastamancer
17:59.51durcynTseric turned himself into Illidan and ran around tearing Stormwind apart the other day on Hellfire
18:00.03durcynthe best part was his guild tag, <Less QQ More Pew Pew>
18:00.06Q6the people at sprints PCS customercare line remind me of bunch of hippies on acid
18:00.46Q6i was farming in wintersprings and bunch of demons were running down the road. i waslike wtf
18:01.25durcynNimbal: how about an ElkBuffBar layout with SurfaceLib support? =)
18:02.24wereHamsterkagaro, CryproLib: if self.mode == ?? then .. elseif mode == ??? then ...
18:02.45kergothNimbal: oh, was wanting to ask.. the buff display on the target, would it be possible (i'm sure it would be, programmatically in the layout) to do consolodation?  if 6 locks have a given curse on him, itd be cool to show one icon for it, but with some indicator of how many there were
18:02.58Nimbaldurcyn: This would be possible with the container-system I made, but not easy. Anyway, people who want bars for their buffs should just stick to ElkBuffBar.
18:03.13wereHamsteralso, line 21 should be rc4Lib (capitalized 'L'), right?
18:03.21snirksNimbal: thanks for the info
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18:04.02snirksNimbal: what i wanted when i tried it was an option to limit how many buffslots you could have. aka when positioning buffalo, you could set it to only show 16 buffslots, and not all 32
18:04.38Nimbalkergoth: Hm... that's one thing that's not so trivial. Maybe in a later version.
18:04.40kagaro|workwereHamster: huh ?
18:05.05kergoth:) using buffalo for target is so nice. the buffs on my hud and on the target frame of aguf just arent obvious enough to me
18:05.34kagaro|workwereHamster: ohh i see it
18:06.14wereHamsterkagaro|work, what's 'local skey' for in en/decrypt? it isn't used
18:06.40kagaro|workfixing typos now
18:06.41Nimbalsnirks: That's not a problem at all. Each container has a function "ContainsBuff" that tells Buffalo whether this container should display a buff or not. If it returns false when the container has more than 16 buffs, there'd be no more buffs added to this container.
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18:08.19snirksyou can split up containers now?
18:08.29CIA-1703kagaro * r24821 10CryptoLib/Crypto-1.0/Crypto-1.0.lua: CryptoLib: typo fixes
18:08.31kergothsnirks: try the buffalo in branches
18:08.37KirkburnAzurewrath, end of beta on EU you say?
18:08.41snirksi think i will
18:08.54AzurewrathKirkburn: at least theres an event going on
18:09.01kergothhugely different.  he creates buff buttons as needed now, cut the ram usage drastically
18:09.04kergothquite nice
18:09.06AzurewrathShattrath is burning and there are Fel Reavers and Doomwalkers all over the place
18:09.09kergothmeh, headaches ftl
18:09.29snirksi have one aswell :(
18:09.35snirksand im going to the cinema
18:10.07kergothi'm having to down excedrin tension headache like its candy now that i'm back at this job
18:10.13kergothnot a good sign :P
18:10.17deltronlol
18:10.19Nimbal*note to self*: Rework subliminal messages in Buffalo config options - seems to induce minor headaches in subjects.
18:10.23deltronit's a job
18:10.50kergothcube farms are the devil
18:10.59kergothif your job strongly resembles office space, there's a problem
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18:11.53deltronhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5637645708702385131&q=NOFX+decline&hl=en
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18:13.33mexicaanis there a ace unit frames addon that supports party pets?
18:14.09deltronheh I can't get ag_unitframes to display them for me
18:14.53_neuron_mexicaan, blizzard broke the api, wait for another patch from em ;)
18:14.55Sapiensdeltron: I think that's a known bug with agUF.
18:14.55ravagernlpartypets are not yet coded into it
18:15.30SapiensOr that.
18:15.31Sapiens:P
18:16.12cncfanaticsanyone familiar with AceOO that knows if a mixin can have an init function?
18:16.36kergothcncfanatics: theres a method that gets called each time you get mixed into an object
18:16.42kergothwhich isp robably what you want
18:16.49ckknightcncfanatics: OnEmbedInitialize
18:16.49kergothnot sure what its called off the top of my head though
18:16.53kergothah there it is :)
18:16.56ckknightI think
18:17.02ckknightno, wait, that's not in
18:17.03ckknightit*
18:17.16ckknight:OnManualEmbed is one
18:17.24ckknightthere's a few, look on the wiki
18:17.31kergothoh, onembedinitialize is probably when OnInitialize happens rather than mix in time, eh?
18:17.34cncfanaticsI need stuff called when an object is initiated, for each mixin a different function, how could I do that ?
18:18.42CIA-1703ominous * r24822 10ItemEnchantApplication/ (Core.lua ItemEnchantApplication.toc): ItemEnchantApplication: Added new e-mail
18:19.41Kaeltenbringing the forums down.
18:19.46Kaeltenand wiki
18:19.50cncfanatics:(
18:19.51KarlThePaganQQ
18:19.54KarlThePaganohwell
18:19.57cncfanaticsI need the wiki :(
18:20.06Kaeltenwe're around 1k connections and its still rising
18:20.19cncfanaticsain't forum enough ?
18:20.23KarlThePaganit's friday
18:20.28Pucmelnight
18:20.36Pucmelgo out  :)
18:20.46PogoTribalMake love to your wife.
18:20.49KarlThePaganwiki probably has a lot more db connections
18:20.58KarlThePagantell her to remember her pill :P
18:21.02KarlThePaganlawl
18:21.44mexicaan_neuron_: : ok thanks, guess ill ahve to wait
18:21.45Kaeltenand its off.
18:22.10KarlThePaganwell since you haven't seen this on the forum GROUPER LFG IS BETA (r24817)
18:22.13KarlThePagantest plx!
18:22.14SapiensYou know, it would be kind of neat if I had a little utility to mirror the addons on the WowAce site for, say, my guild, and they could redirect their WowAceUpdater to get the files from my site instead.
18:22.19cncfanaticskergoth, any way to do what I need ? "I need stuff called when an object is initiated, for each mixin a different function, how could I do that ?"
18:22.24KarlThePaganauto-lfg is functional (might stomp on blizzard set LFG)
18:22.29SapiensObviously there are some serious problems with that idea but it would still be neat.
18:22.55PogoTribalYou could still do it manually, Sapiens.
18:23.07KarlThePaganKaelten, do the addon zips update on commit? or 20 min cycle?
18:23.09SapiensI know.  But that would suck and defeat the entire purpose of the updater. :P
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18:23.30VanishOk... EVERYONE STOP UPDATING so I can read the forums. kthx.
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18:23.38PogoTribalForums are down now.
18:23.46KarlThePaganthey're slain
18:23.57PogoTribalThey've done gone been smoten.
18:24.54Pucmelserver cluster
18:24.58Pucmelor some real server hw
18:25.17Pucmellike ibm 510, not so expensive
18:26.07kergothcncfanatics: well, you could certainly override the 'embed' method.  it is the method which actually takes the mixin's methods and embeds them in the target.  you'd have to remember to call the superclass embed method so you actually get embedded, but then you could do extra stuff before or after that
18:26.26cncfanaticswell, I dunno
18:26.34cncfanaticstechnicly I have a table full of interfaces and mixin
18:26.42cncfanaticsI unpack it and use all of them
18:27.10cncfanaticsI want my func to execute when I do :new()
18:27.13cncfanaticsand each time I do it
18:27.53kergothmaybe itd help if we stepped back a bit and talked about what you're trying to accomplish
18:28.03Wogroiplcan Teksupport show which addon causes my UI memory to increase by 41 KB/s?
18:28.11kergothWogroipl: most likely yes
18:28.20KarlThePaganexpect tainting
18:28.34PogoTribalI got tainted yesterday.
18:28.35CIA-1703ominous * r24823 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Bars/Buffs.lua Core.lua FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc RuleSet.lua):
18:28.35CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
18:28.35CIA-17-Imp SnD should now work
18:28.35CIA-17-Should have fixed on load error for non en clients
18:28.44kergothhmm periodictable-3.0 eh
18:28.44PogoTribalag_UF's pet bar.
18:28.52WogroiplKergoth: I have taint check ticked in Prat, should that show it?
18:29.17PogoTribalDo you guys actually play WoW anymore?
18:29.23cncfanaticskergoth, I have a table, FlexBar2.Class, third party addons can use a RegisterClass method to add mixins/interfaces in there
18:29.38cncfanaticsall interfaces and mixins in there will be used when initiating new object
18:29.43cncfanaticss/object/objects/
18:29.44VanishHmmm... Friend needs the link to WAU. Anyone know it offhand?
18:29.57CIA-1703nimbal 07Nimbal * r24824 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:29.57CIA-17Buffalo (Branch):
18:29.57CIA-17- Fixed profile switching
18:29.57CIA-17- Fixed an issue with the reference frames
18:29.57CIA-17- Timers should now always show on the reference frames
18:29.57CIA-17- Removed a few debug messages
18:30.11Arrowmaster~wowaceupdater
18:30.13purlextra, extra, read all about it, wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
18:30.22VanishCool. thx, Arrowmaster
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18:31.05cncfanaticsnow I need it to be possible for the mixins to have the equivalent of an init() method that regular classes use
18:31.33Arrowmaster~botsnack
18:31.33purlArrowmaster: :)
18:31.35AdsumI'm reading "Your first Ace2 Addon" but i can't seem to find !!!Libraries :S
18:31.50Adsumanyone who could assist me?
18:31.52kergothcncfanatics: mixins do have an init method, but its called when the mixin itself is created, not when it gets mixed into another newly created object.
18:32.13Arrowmaster!!!Libraries doesnt exist anymore
18:32.22AdsumArrowmaster, so what to use instead?
18:32.44Arrowmaster!!!StandaloneLibs? or whatever its called
18:33.07cncfanaticshow could I do it then kergoth ? hook a predefined "activate" function somewhere maybe ?
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18:33.31decy1974Hi there
18:34.08PogoTribalNo you can't have any.
18:34.19PogoTribalYes the site is down.
18:34.34ganja\Anyone else experienced that the progress bar disapeared in 2.0.3? I am almost only running ACE-mods.
18:34.58kergothganja\: you mean the casting bar? check aguf, it has a casting bar on the player frame now, so is probably hiding the blizzard casting bar when its enabled
18:35.17ganja\kergoth: yes, casting bar ofc. Thanks, I will check it out right now.
18:35.18kergothcncfanatics: umm let me think, my aceoo-fu is rusty
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18:36.09AdsumArrowmaster, but i can't get AceAddon-2.0 with !!!Standalone can I?
18:36.16decy1974Anyone can tell me, how i get a correct toc file for !!!StandaloneLibraries?
18:36.22Arrowmasterits in Ace2
18:37.05cncfanaticsk kergoth
18:37.11KemayoWell, that definitely explains why QuestsFu doesn't work when EQL is also running.
18:37.17AdsumArrowmaster, so to get those folders I don't need to download anything else if i have Ace2 in my addon folder?
18:37.49wereHamsterAceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("Dewdrop-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0") <= will that work?
18:38.04KemayoThe author changed the number of returns on GetQuestLogTitle back to pre-2.0.3.  Apparently they're a bit fuzzy on the whole "hooking" thing.
18:38.08KemayoGrr.
18:38.09Arrowmasteryes you download either Ace2 or the Standalones zip
18:38.30Arrowmasterif you download teh Standalones zip you get it from the site then do what it says and then run WAU
18:38.32ganja\Is it a common not yet solved problem that I get things like "ClosetGnome_Mount\libs\Gratuity-2.0\Gratuity-2.0.lua:62: attempt to index field 'Rlines' (a nil value)" from several ace mods?
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18:39.11AdsumArrowmaster, ah ok, so how do I link the files then to the Ace2 addons? Should i just hardcode the paths or is there a smarter way
18:39.29kergothkagaro|work: the mts in talismonger to avoid having to look up the reverse translations for translated versions too often?
18:39.42kagaro|workkergoth: yeah
18:39.56Arrowmasterjust Reqdep Ace2 for now, youll learn the embeding later
18:40.07WogroiplKergoth: what's the command for Teksupport?
18:40.25VelkynCan someone tell me the differences in "Fence" and "Auctioneer"  (other then the fact Auctioneer still doesnt have a release for 2.0 and it uses more mem then windows)?
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18:40.46kagaro|workkergoth: during a heavy mining/herbing/fishing session it would get called 100's of times
18:40.52VelkynWogroipl: /ace load teksupport, /ace enable teksupport
18:41.10VelkynWogroipl: Then it shows up as a blue plus sign on fubar.
18:41.11AdsumArrowmaster, ok, so if i just use ReqDeps: Ace2 and skip the paths?
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18:41.50KarlThePaganhttp://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5896/grouper/ <-- make fav now thx :)
18:42.18Arrowmasteryeah just ## Dependencies: Ace2
18:42.21VelkynWogroipl:  If you still dont see it, right-click the Fubar Menu and try disabling and enabling it there (thats always worked for me)
18:42.33decy1974Who can help me, with a little problem (StandaloneLibraries) ?
18:43.17CIA-1703kergoth * r24825 10TalismongerLib/Talismonger-1.0/Talismonger-1.0.lua: TalismongerLib: minor typo fix: skil->skill.
18:43.26ganja\kergoth: Thanks (about the casting bar) found it now!
18:43.39AdsumArrowmaster, thanks alot for your help :)
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18:46.37SapiensHrm, my oRA2 download keeps failing.
18:46.57SapiensWAU grabs it and decompresses it every time though.
18:46.58Maranathaoralay
18:47.05SapiensI guess the site is just getting hammered.
18:48.01kergothkagaro|work: one possibility, and itd be up to you whether itd be better or not.. currently you have a proxy in front of each real datatable.  the proxy ends up containing all the data the original tables have, and then some.  an alternative would be to simply attach metatables to the datatables themselves which have an __index that looks up the reverse translation version, and either stores it in a seperate table to cache it (in which case the
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18:49.15kagaro|workkergoth: I was thining about that
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18:49.40kergotheither way should reduce the amount of ram used, and shouldnt increase the cpu time by much, if anything
18:50.22kagaro|workI wanted to avoid the constant reverse lookups
18:51.11kagaro|workkergoth: it is hard to judge since on english client I never have to do the reverse lookups
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18:51.34kergothit isnt hard to produce test code you could use to benchmark the performance hit
18:52.02kergothwrite a 'getreverse' function that hands you 'B' when you give it 'A', put an 'A' element in the test data table with a value, and test away
18:52.09kergoth:P
18:52.16Wogroiplif Teksupport shows the chatframes as using a lot of memory, should I disable a specific module of Prat?
18:52.26kagaro|workyeah I did do that, just didnt have a big enough table I dont think.. over the course of a few looksup you cant tell .. gona re-run my test with 1 million lookups
18:52.40kergothyeah, its always a good idea to scale up the values when profiling
18:53.04kergothi often "scale" up each pass by a few thousand attempts, then do that, say, 8 or so times and get the average across those 8
18:53.08kergothnot perfect, but..
18:53.30ag`man, did you take down wowace again? :P
18:53.41ag`still getting hammered?
18:53.46Kaelten~1k connects
18:53.50ag`I was browsing the forums earlier today though
18:53.54Kaeltenbtw guys, I've ordered the new server
18:54.06ag`cool, from donation money?
18:54.19Arrowmasterdidnt you order a new server when 1.12 was released? or was it 2.0
18:54.19Kaeltenya, and some of my personal
18:54.32ag`I hope you didn't have to pay up too much yourself:(
18:54.34KaeltenArrowmaster: I was talking aobut it around 2.0, but I just now actualyl did it
18:54.40Kaeltenag`: na, its fine.
18:54.47ag`Kaelten, yeah I guess you own them :)
18:55.04wereHamsterdoes AceAddon-2.0 require AceOO?
18:55.09Eternally777Yes
18:55.23ag`AceOO is the bomb though
18:55.27ag`it rocks my socks
18:55.30Eternally777<PROTECTED>
18:55.36wereHamsterwhat else? AceEvent, AceConsole, too?
18:55.41HjalteEternally777: Earlier today, after having raided for some hours, the mount button in sacredbuff suddenly stopped working
18:55.54Eternally777Hjalte: :-(
18:56.07Eternally777Were you raiding AQ40?
18:56.10HjalteEternally777: No error or anything
18:56.19HjalteEternally: Nope, just some outdoor bosses.
18:56.41Eternally777What specifically happened to i
18:56.52Eternally777s/to i/to it/
18:56.59ag`wereHamster, I think AceEvent, but I don't think you need AceConsole.
18:57.02Eternally777Did it disappear or just not do anything?
18:57.09HjalteWhen i clicked it, it looked it should work, but i didnt mount.
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18:57.18ag`wereHamster, or maybe you do, to control enable/disable of addons
18:57.44Eternally777Bah, I have to rewrite that portion anyway to support multiple mounts...
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18:58.00fffffinally:p
18:58.05Nachello all... any resolution yet for ag unitframes and pet, party pet or raid pet
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18:58.29Forsightanyone here on HORDE (Frostmourne Server) ???
18:58.30blahuhu again :)
18:58.37ag`Nac, no, but I think I can make it work soon
18:58.37SapiensNac: [12:14pm] <ravagernl> partypets are not yet coded into it
18:59.03blaQuestion: Has someone the problem with disconnects and Dr. Damage, when hoovering over a Bar ???
18:59.18NacThank you thank you thank you...hehehehe
18:59.22Forsightabyssichate u there?:P
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18:59.32WogroiplGeez, my chatframe1 and chatframe3 are responsible for 99% of teh increasing memory rate :(
18:59.47Sapiensag`: If you could add some menu options for the frames that allow you to specify X/Y offsets for the frames instead of manually dragging them around... and maybe some preset configurations for frame options... I would <3 you forever. :P
18:59.51Forsighttrh u there:P
19:00.06decy1974Anyone can tell me, how i make a correct !!!Libs.toc after WAU update the libarys ?
19:00.31Arrowmasteryou dont
19:00.34Forsightis there any1 free whos ON the frostmourne server (horde) or who can join it for 10seconds for mee?:P
19:00.39Arrowmasterdelete !!!Libs
19:00.51decy1974ok its delete. and know?
19:01.37Arrowmasterand now continue using your addons like normal
19:01.44decy1974^
19:03.07Chinkubeerke: concerning KotJ, could you please explain the difference between the food categories, e.g. "Meat Bonus" and "Meat Stats" a little further?
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19:04.47cncfanaticsKaelten, Kaelten-Laptop, when will wowace be back up ? can't code without it
19:05.03Kaelten-Laptoplol sorry :(
19:05.10Kaelten-LaptopI'll try to put it back up for a little while
19:05.23Teazlehmmm, i cant log in to my google profile, any chnace i could post bugs with aguf here or in pm or somthing? :/
19:05.26Kaelten-Laptopif it gets too bad I'll take it down again
19:05.41cncfanaticstnx :)
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19:06.16forsight2bleh
19:06.16forsight2net died
19:06.58Elkanohas Cartographer_Treasure broken with 2.0.3? It didn't add new nodes in Un'goro for me today :/
19:07.24cncfanaticsKaelten-Laptop, some pages are up and others down atm ?
19:07.33Kaelten-Laptopall should be up
19:07.47Teazleag` are you around by any chance?
19:09.06cncfanaticshttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOO-2.0 appears to be the down page for me
19:09.09cncfanaticseven after reloading
19:09.20Kaelten-Laptoploads for me no problem
19:09.23Kaelten-Laptopyou using ff?
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19:09.30Kaelten-Laptopif so do ctrl-shift-r
19:09.36Kaelten-Laptopand it'll probably fix
19:10.31cncfanaticsctrl-shift-r does nothing at all -.-
19:11.03cncfanaticsnvm, works now
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19:11.36trhForsight: now i am
19:12.37Beutjucan i see screenshots of the addons somewhere? on those wikipages are no screens - thats a bit annoying :/
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19:13.24Klazaryeeeehaaaw quit'n time, pint a guinesse and cigar, then home to see what addones r broke... lol
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19:14.58Klazarhey TrainerFu keeps tell'n me i need to learn how to cook spicey vulturemeat or something like that... and its not anywahere for me to train in...i dont like vuilture meat anyway...
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19:19.12ckknightAdsum: !!!Libs is gone
19:20.01Illuminatiwhats the addon/fix for targeting in raid?
19:20.44ckknighthey all
19:20.44ckknighthow's everyone doing?
19:20.44vhaarrevening
19:20.45cncfanaticsyo ckknight, nice, but I'm blocked in coding probs :
19:21.02Adsumckknight, yeah i noticed, but thanks
19:21.14ckknight~ugt
19:21.18purlfrom memory, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
19:21.18decy1974Question: Is !!!StanaloneLibraries needed for low memory usage or can i kick it?
19:21.20ckknightvhaarr: ^---
19:21.28vhaarr^^
19:21.35ckknightdecy1974: your memory will be the same if you use standalones or not
19:21.42ckknightstandalones may help your load time, though.
19:21.56Elkanoiirc !!!StandaloneLibraries is only a bunch of empty folders in order to have WAU checkout the libs
19:22.08Barbanusdoes chat logging write to disk in realtime? or does it only write the logs when you exit wow?
19:22.10ckknightdepending on your system, the difference may be marginal
19:22.11decy1974hm ok. my fault :)
19:22.25trhBarbanus: must be on exit/reloadui
19:22.32Barbanusblah
19:23.06cncfanaticsckknight, cld u help me with aceOO stuff ? :)
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19:23.21ckknightI guess so
19:23.35ckknightbut note that it's "could" and "you"
19:23.53ckknightyour fingers must've slipped and forgot to type those extra, important letters
19:24.20Thorgardno wai
19:24.22cncfanaticshehe :p
19:24.27ag`Tekkub,
19:24.31wereHamsterhow do I prevent that FuBar adds its stuff to the tooltip?
19:24.31ag`sorry nm
19:24.33Thorgardcknght u r wrng!
19:24.38ag`Tekkub, didn't mean to highlight you
19:24.38Tekkubnani?
19:24.44Tekkubass
19:24.51GagorianI might have use for a Babble-ItemSets, does anyone else need similar?
19:24.52wereHamsteroptions like 'Enable', 'Attach to minimap' etc
19:24.58nevcairiellol
19:25.04ag`ah he left
19:25.06ag`that's why
19:25.06cncfanaticsso, for my coding, I have a table full of interfaces and mixins which I unpack and that way I mix them all together in a single class
19:25.28ckknightwereHamster: overrideMenu, afaik
19:25.31ThorgardYeah, ag`, it wasn't nice typing Tekkub like that. ;P
19:25.37cncfanaticsnow, I need the equivalent of an :init method for the mixins which would execute its code each time the class is initiated, do mixins support that ?
19:25.46ckknightcncfanatics: yes, I already said they did
19:25.56ag`Thorgard, was a mistake, the guy I tried to tab-highlight had left
19:25.57Elkanoag', does aUF support class icons?
19:26.04cncfanaticsname of the method/how to use it ? can't find any documentation about it
19:26.31ag`Elkano, Would be good if it could show them instead of portraits but no, not at the current time, it hasn't been coded
19:26.41Thorgardag`, I know.. I just thought I'd be annoying by making Tekkub's highlight go off again.. and, I guess, again. ;)
19:27.25ckknightOnInstanceInit, cncfanatics
19:27.25ag`cncfanatics, I actually wanted to do that some time ago
19:27.27Matrix110anyone discovered a option to disable that stupid Fade In effect @game load?
19:27.36ag`ah
19:28.04Matrix110cant find anything in the config.wtf atleast-.-
19:28.14cncfanaticsag` its extremely powerfull for third party addon hooking
19:28.18kenlyric|workMatrix110: I've been trying to figure out what that is. And I kinda think it might be them remotely loading in the login screen.
19:28.19ag`Subclasses worked out for me instead
19:28.29ag`cncfanatics, what is?
19:28.36cncfanaticswhat I want to do :p
19:28.54ag`what do you want to do :)
19:29.18Matrix110aha
19:29.18ThorgardHow confusing.
19:29.37cncfanaticshttp://ace.pastey.net/4957 would work ckknight ? even with multiple mixins doing that ?
19:29.54kenlyric|workMatrix110: it's a wild guess, but it's the first think I thought of when I saw it. Especially how it seems to have a varied time that it loads in.,
19:29.56ckknightyes, it goes through every mixin.
19:30.04cncfanaticsyay :)
19:30.08cncfanaticsthanks ckknight
19:30.13cncfanaticsyou own :)
19:30.28Matrix110it is longer everytime i start the game atleast iam thinking that..
19:30.33CIA-1703kergoth * r24827 10kEnergy/ (Locale/enUS.lua addon.lua): kEnergy: add option to fill the bar rather than empty it (simple drycode).
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19:31.23kergothfor i in *.lua; do luac -l -p $i >/dev/null || echo "$i parse failure."; done is my friend
19:32.18ag`Noooo some terrible program took down my 90 day uptime on my laptop :( My epeen shrinks :(
19:32.34cncfanaticsag` , what OS ?
19:32.46ag`that
19:32.55ag`that's the bad part, it's mac OS X
19:33.06ag`I'd never had anything like that happen before to it
19:33.18ag`I dropped it on the pavement a year ago though
19:33.33durcyn230 days on my firewall /flex!
19:33.47cncfanaticsI could reach infinity on this comp with debian :p
19:34.36Aileen_90 days!  There have been OSX security updates in that time. ;)
19:35.10|Kev|cncfanatics: I thought that
19:35.12ag`Aileen_, it's bugging me to update some shit now
19:35.29|Kev|but in reality, something, happens every year or so to bring my linux boxes down
19:35.41|Kev|powercut usually
19:35.53cncfanaticsu can protect against powercuts if u realy want to :p
19:36.05cncfanaticss/ u / you /
19:36.27durcynthou shalt not space thy s/g regexes.
19:36.30ag`I think OS X is really stable... I guess it crashing is mostly a result of me dropping it on the pavement a year ago badly damaging it, 2. crap software and 3. 20% overclock of the GPU (on a laptop:>)
19:36.36Aileen_Yeah... I am a bad girl, I have been sitting on a security update reboot for like a month because I'm too lazy to bring screen sessions back up.  I've been waiting so long that more updates came out! :)
19:36.51|Kev|how smart is the bot is the bot is purl?
19:36.56|Kev|s/is the bot//g
19:36.57ag`I'm behind a NAT and stuff..
19:37.01KarlThePaganElkano, ping - grouper beta milestone  http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5896/grouper/
19:37.02durcynAileen_: publically routable ip please.
19:37.02|Kev|ah, cool :)
19:37.23CIA-1703antiarc * r24828 10Sanity2/Libs/: Sanity2: Fix to externals. Somehow regressed to old externals defs.
19:37.41Aileen_hehe it doesn't have one
19:38.37durcynhrm, nat traversal. hrm.
19:38.54Aileen_it's a stable little box though, only ever reboots for security updates (powerpc Mini running Oracle and a bunch of MySQL databases and a few websites)
19:40.04cncfanaticsAlieen_ bleh I need to reboot my debian too for my new kernel
19:40.08cncfanaticsbut I don't feel like it :p
19:40.29CheadsI just finished setting up my new debian server yesterday heh
19:40.39beerkeChinku, Bonus gives additional stats like stamina and such, Stats give effects like Firebreath or transforms you
19:40.49Adirellesomeone having grid errors ? (rev 24388)
19:40.56cncfanaticsCheads, its a desktop machine here :p
19:41.16Chinkubeerke: oh. mh. I assumed that one of those categories were for food that gives stats/bonuses to the _pet_. ;-)
19:41.34beerkeThey are not in PeriodicTable afaik yet
19:41.49Chinkubeerke: ah, ok. so you populate that list directly from periodictable?
19:41.54beerkeYes
19:42.33beerkeThose categories are PT categories
19:42.51Chinkufor me it was a bit confusing, I would have sorted them reverse - "bonus" for effects like firebreath, and "stats" for items that actually give stat bonuses...
19:43.12Tekkubsupport my request!  (and don't just say "seconded" please :P)
19:43.13Tekkubhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63167579&postId=649239669&sid=1#12
19:43.13beerkeWell, poke PT, not me :)
19:43.14CheadsPostal is nice.. great addon =)
19:43.45Adsumcould anyone tell me why MessageFrame:AddMessage(self.message, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0) doesn't work?
19:43.49ckknight2.1.0?
19:43.57Chinkuthat's what I wanted to ask next - if we want to suggest changes to those lists, we have to inquire PeriodicTable developers, right? ;-)
19:44.00beerkeChinku, you could name them otherwise in the locale
19:44.11beerkeYou would be changing the index to the table
19:44.16beerkeWhich could break mods
19:44.17ElkanoKarlThePagan got to reactivate mine... had some bugs with quixote earlier today :/
19:44.31ckknightTekkub: that'd be awesome, I'd convert all FuBar plugins to it
19:44.41TekkubSupply and Demand my man
19:44.43Chinkubeerke:  well, sure I could rename them but I wanted them to be consistent with the english version...
19:44.47AntiarcAt the current rate, it looks like we're going to hit commit 25000 well before BC hits.
19:44.51TekkubI sooooo want ever Ace2 addon that can to use S&D
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19:45.01kagaro|workck : 2.1.0 ?? where did you see that ?
19:45.08Tekkubbut noone wants to, they're afraid of the ReqDep
19:45.13ckknightI know nussing!
19:45.20KarlThePaganElkano, yea delete the quixote embed until AceComm/AceLibrary is fixed
19:45.35AntiarcWhat's wrong with AceComm at the moment?
19:45.49KarlThePagan2 copies of an embedded library that use AceComm cause errors
19:45.52beerkeSimplest way would just be changing the locale. Changing indexes in PT2 is not wanted and not needed
19:45.55AntiarcOoh, ok.
19:46.00ElkanoKarlThePagan, won't help... I use it standalone... and QuestFu needs it
19:46.25KarlThePaganElkano, yea if you use the standalone you should be fine - if not pastey me the error
19:46.36KarlThePaganI use QuestFu and Grouper together with standalone and it works
19:46.59KarlThePaganmight have been a bug... I should modify Quixote to check args and error appropriately to a library
19:47.08KarlThePagan*as a library
19:47.22KarlThePagani.e. error(message,2) or self:error(
19:48.35cncfanaticsckknight, my code with OnEmbedInitialize ain't working :(
19:49.09ckknightOnInstanceInit or OnEmbedInitialize?
19:49.38Adirelle~seen toadkiller
19:50.00purltoadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-178-60.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 47m 52s ago, saying: 'andremar: not so much dreamlayout as bt3 style buttons: plain, zoomed & dreamlayout'.
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19:50.01cncfanaticsOnEmbedInitialize, guess i'm using the wrong one ? :p :(
19:50.01dafirehi ho
19:50.05BeutjuStandaloneLibs readme: This package contains NO CODE, only empty folders. - there are no emtpy folders in the standalonelibs folder...
19:50.35Aileen_there rae
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19:50.40ThorgardBeutju, did you download it through the WoWAceUpdater?
19:50.45Beutjuyes
19:50.47ThorgardDon't.
19:50.56ThorgardGet the zip from the site with your browser.
19:51.06Beutjuk
19:51.13ThorgardWoWAceUpdater apparently doesn't like extracting empty directories or something.
19:51.15CIA-1703dafire * r24829 10FuBar_uGuild/Locals.lua:
19:51.15CIA-17FuBar_uGuild:
19:51.15CIA-17- fixed missing comma in locals.lua
19:51.22Aileen_and don't use winzip to open it because it won't show the empty folders either :)
19:52.06AdsumJust curious but is it anyone but me running WoW on linux?
19:52.09Beutjuwill it find out what libs i have doubled in alle folders and install them once and delete the others? or isn't it supposed to do that
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19:53.54ThorgardBeutju, not supposed to do that.
19:54.34ThorgardBeutju, if you update your mods with the updater, just choose without externals after you've done the whole StandAloneLibs thing.
19:54.58cncfanaticsAdsum, I am on debian
19:54.59vhaarrAdsum: yes, many.
19:55.04wereHamsterdoes dewdropt not pass any arguments to the callback of a checkbox?
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19:55.44Adsumjust curious (didn't mean i thought i was the only one in the world :O i just ment here on the channel)
19:56.41cncfanaticsckknight, can OnInstanceInit get the arguments that were passed with :new(...) somehow ?
19:56.47ckknightno
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19:57.33Dhragaevening all
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19:58.26SkorcherXman the poor wowace server is getting slammed... i cant even get the site to show or download the newest build of aguf
19:59.02dafireckknight: i want to add optional msbt notification to fubar_honorfu .. is that ok ?
19:59.09ckknightsounds good
19:59.32Dhragaa question, anyone that uses simpleminimap here that have thested the latest versions.... cause I cant see the map or its minimap icons since the version r23472, but no error is shown
19:59.48dafireckknight: topscore_fu too ;)
19:59.56ckknightsounds fine
20:00.09dafirethanks .9
20:00.25Panyekirkburn: got a minor problem with francophil sans font, its not taken into effect when a underscore is used..
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20:02.06shieldbDhraga, have you checked the lower left hand corner? iirc 2.0.3 changed the way that the minimap was positioned and mine got moved to there until I moved it back after one revision (it was just tough to find because I had chat frames / buttons covering it)
20:03.02DhragaShieldb, Hmmm.... no I havent actually.... I'll try to delete the saved vars... Thans
20:03.05Dhraga*Thanks
20:03.06shieldbyou could also try /smm reset (I think that's the syntax) to reset it to default positioning / options
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20:06.41shieldbanyone happen to know if postal is trying to implement the same functionality as bulkmail provides or if it's trying to be an overhauled gmail with some extra features?
20:07.02shieldbI <3 bulkmail but it doesn't seem to be getting updates and bugs out from time to time
20:07.11kergothpostal is like gmail, only highly modular. he's working on the bulk mailing module
20:07.15kergothafaict
20:07.17kergother, s/ct$/k/
20:07.34durcynshieldb: erm, you can already bulk mail with postal.  insert the name, then spam alt click on your items.
20:07.48shieldbdurcyn, that's different then bulkmail
20:08.01shieldbbulkmail as it is now I've got a list of items that go to specific characters
20:08.35shieldbso I hit the mailbox and the sendmail tab, then hit the 'send stuff' button and all my wartorn scraps go to our naxx bank, idols/scarabs go to the aq bank, gathered stuff goes to my bank
20:08.58kergoth~botmail for mjc: idea.. i'm thinking i'll write a tool like svk pull (doesnt just do a single merge, but follows the copy paths all the way up, merging down) only based on the most recent merge path rather than copy path, at each point.  then will make addoncp use that.  that should fix your issues with bigwigs standalones
20:09.37durcynshieldb: oh, i thought you meant as in ct/gmail, where it's a frame with a queue going to only one person.  bulkmail does multiple recipients on a queue?
20:09.52shieldbyeah
20:09.54kergothbulkmail lets you specify waht you want going where, by item id or even by pt set
20:10.00kergothpretty handy
20:10.24AntiarcIf I could, I'd like you all to take a look at the brief outline for a mod, and give me feedback.
20:10.26Antiarchttp://ace.pastey.net/4959
20:10.26Panyeanyone having errors with fubar_ufriends??
20:10.31shieldbbulkmail (when it's working) queues up any number of items in your inventory to go to specific recipients, so you just hit the bulkmail send button and everything is on it's way to the appropriate character
20:11.07ThorgardAnyone know where to grab the latest model viewer?
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20:11.32ThorgardHah.. maybe http://www.wowmodelviewer.org/ ..
20:11.58AntiarcBasically, I want to try to formalize and automate the trade requests that have no other infrastructure in WoW
20:11.58kergothAntiarc: i'm not clear on what job board provides that the other two dont
20:12.02aehey guys, just a quick question. Is there an ace mod like ctraid?
20:12.10Antiarckergoth: The other two are "provider seeking providees"
20:12.15tale_a combination, ae.
20:12.16AntiarcJob board is "providees seeking provider"
20:12.16shieldbae: ora2 + bigwigs + your raid frames of choice
20:12.48shieldbso grid, sraidframes, aguf has raid frames, perfectraid to name a few
20:12.48kergothAntiarc: ahh
20:12.50tale_for frames, look at ag_unitframes and grid.  also check out xraidstatus in addition to what shieldb mentioned
20:12.52kergothokay, looks good then
20:13.07aeah k thnx
20:13.21CIA-1703gagorian * r24830 10DrDamage/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:13.21CIA-17DrDamage:
20:13.21CIA-17-Removed ItemBonusLib optional dependancy. Added the stuff IBL did and the most important set bonuses (tier 1-3). Remove ItemSets.lua if you don't want this. Updates actionbars a bit less now.
20:13.42SkorcherXhey what can i use to move my questframe around with?
20:13.49DhragaHmmm where have Warmup gone to ? or is it not ace code
20:13.58SkorcherXKC mobility will only move the map and quest
20:14.02ckknight!Warmup?
20:14.06DhragaAye
20:14.16kergothGagorian: why the removal of IBL support?  if ibl is insufficient to your needs, wouldnt it be better to fix it so that other addons using it will benefit?
20:14.19kergothor..?
20:14.26DhragaCAnt see it on the files
20:14.28Gagoriankergoth: The author didn't agree with me
20:14.54kergoththats unfortunate.  bonus scanning seems like something that neednt be duplicated :\
20:15.08Tekkubhttp://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
20:15.16DhragaThanks tekkub
20:15.20Gagoriankergoth: Well I didn't use it for nearly anything anyway
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20:15.57durcynit shouldn't really be necessary anyway anymore, with the new api in 2.0
20:16.10GagorianI took dmg to undead from it, and I intended to use it for set bonuses
20:16.45CIA-1703karlthepagan * r24831 10Grouper/ (GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua):
20:16.45CIA-17Grouper:
20:16.46CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:16.46CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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20:17.26VelkynIf I am catching bugs for ace mods, should I use the forums to report them... or?
20:17.48GagorianI talked to him and he seemed ok with me modifying it, but after adding the functionality the author didn't want me to add localized item set names which I used to gather how many pieces of each tier set
20:17.53kergothdurcyn: how's that?
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20:18.47GagorianSo, I just wrote a very light detection to my own code. ItemBonusLib is 85% inefficient by scanning stuff that the API returns anyway
20:19.26durcynkergoth: GetBonusDamage?
20:20.47CIA-1703rabbit * r24832 10BuffProtectorGnome/BuffProtectorGnome.lua: BuffProtectorGnome: Protect the element protection pots like Nature Protection, etc by default.
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20:22.04durcynhm, no, that's wrong.  GetSpellBonusDamage
20:22.04kergothah, when was that added?
20:22.04durcyn2.0-ish
20:22.04CIA-1703nimbal 07Nimbal * r24834 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
20:22.04CIA-17Buffalo (Branch):
20:22.04CIA-17- Cleaned up unused files
20:22.05CIA-17- Cleaned up container definitions
20:22.05CIA-17- Added deDE translation
20:22.05CIA-1703kergoth * r24833 10kEnergy/addon.lua: kEnergy: Kill the Surface_Registered event handling, as surface:List() now returns a shared table, not a new one for each call.
20:22.05durcynit's what the character frame uses to show you your spell bonus
20:22.14kergothwasnt 2.0, it isnt in the 2.0 change list. guess i need to get off my ass and read the 2.0.x changelogs
20:22.21kergoth:)
20:22.24vhaarryeah, was in 2.0
20:22.40kergothit was?
20:22.49Gagorianyeah
20:23.29JoshBorkeyea
20:23.36shieldbdoes GetSpellBonusDamage take enchants into account as of 2.0.3? I know it didn't factor enchants in with 2.0.1
20:23.48CIA-1703sorren * r24835 10SorrenTimers/ (Core.lua SorrenTimers.toc):
20:23.48CIA-17SorrenTimers:
20:23.48CIA-17- toc fix.
20:23.49CIA-17- BGTimers not creating a proper group fix.
20:23.53kergothguess someone should add it to the wowwiki 2.0 change list
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20:24.03nymbiashieldb: it -should-, but might be missing some
20:24.16GagorianI use GetSpellBonusDamage( schoolID ), GetSpellCritChanceFromIntellect( unit ), GetCombatRatingBonus( id ), GetManaRegen( unit )
20:24.56Gagorianshieldb: It always factored enchants for sure..
20:25.20snirkswhere does transcriptor puts its logs?
20:25.40durcynsnirks: sv, it can't put them anywhere else
20:25.43Chinkusnirks:  in its SV file upon reloadui or logout
20:25.44shieldbin 2.0.1 I'm almost positive it wasn't adding in +30 spell damage on my mage's weapon to the listed spell damage
20:26.04kergothi still dont see how getspellbonusdamage is somehow a replacement for all of itembonuslib/bonusscanner functionality, considering it doesnt seem to show things like +agi or chance to block from an item
20:26.10kergothbut i guess i must be missing something
20:26.19durcynkergoth: drdamage doesn't touch melee yet
20:26.35GagorianI'm 100% certain that for the time I've used it (maybe since 22 december).. It has added it.
20:26.39snirkssorry, but what is sv?
20:26.47durcynsnirks: SavedVariables.
20:26.57durcynsnirks: i.e. the stuff under your WTF folder
20:26.59PProvostsnirks, Saved Variables... where addons can save data between sessions.
20:27.01snirksdurcyn: thanks
20:27.02kergothi guess, i misunderstood durcyn's statement that itembonuslib was no longer necessary with 2.0.  i didnt realize you meant -for drdamage- specifically
20:27.13snirksdurcyn: does it save it in the char specific sv folder, or?=
20:27.16shieldbGagorian, that's cool if it's working then - this is definately something that I'd much rather be wrong on and have the function work properly ;)
20:27.19PProvostWas there a TOC version change on today's patch?
20:27.26kergothsharp zaurus line of pdas is now being killed.. finally
20:27.27nevcairieli dont think so
20:28.07durcynsnirks: there are global saved variables per account that live in WTF\Account\<AccountName>\SavedVariables, then player specific in WTF\Account\<AccountName>\<RealmName>\<CharacterName>\SavedVariables
20:28.10PProvostIs it just an AB fix then? (I'm reading that they didn't fix AV.)
20:28.32RUBiKsomeone have any release notes for today's fix?
20:28.41PProvostI don't know if there are any...
20:28.54RUBiKk
20:28.58durcyniirc it's just a hotfix, patch notes will be about one line long if at all
20:29.13RUBiKgotcha.. sorry, had no clue what kind of fix it was (at work so can't check)
20:29.13PProvostYeah... "Fix distance cap bug in AB"
20:29.31Gagoriankergoth: There's an API to get chance to block from items
20:29.53GagorianMost is covered
20:30.17GagorianYou can easily get all stat bonuses too
20:30.32kenlyric|workdamn, alt-clicking on stuff to put it in the mailbox is broken somehow, even though I didn't update ct_mailmod. I wonder if it's because I installed postman too.
20:30.37kergothwithout parsing the tooltip? cool, didnt realize
20:30.46Gagorianbase, stat, posBuff, negBuff = UnitStat("unit", statID);
20:30.50Gagorianyup
20:30.56kergothkenlyric|work: running postal and ct_mailmod at hte same time is probably bad..
20:30.58kergothslick
20:31.08durcynpostman or postal?
20:31.09tale_i wouldn't think the conflict would result in it not working, one or the other should succeed
20:31.09kenlyric|workkergoth, lies!
20:31.16kenlyric|workpost something.
20:31.28durcynif it's postal, pick up AltClickToAddItem from /files/ as well
20:31.31kenlyric|workyeah, it works just fine. Alt-clicking just doesn't.
20:31.44kergothi should do a little addon to pop up a frame of stat differences when you open the dressing room.  nothing to it with that api function, just iterate over the dressed items and total it up
20:31.47kenlyric|worka mod to alt click stuff. *eyeroll*
20:32.04kenlyric|workisn't alt-clicking built in?
20:32.13tale_depends on which mod you mean
20:32.15Gagoriankergoth: But you can use that API to get the same thing :P
20:32.17kenlyric|workwhy can I remember using it for trade windows.
20:32.35tale_but yes, it is built into both postman and postal, postal is split into subdirectories
20:32.51tale_so kergoth was just saying be sure you have that subdir if you are using postal
20:32.54kergothGagorian: i think i must have been unclear, i meant that doing such an addon would be quick and easy thanks to that api
20:33.08snirksim a c++ apprentice
20:33.14kergothi need caffeine.
20:33.16snirksmaybe i could write a program that reads transcriptor SV
20:33.21durcynkenlyric|work: that was always ctmail or gmail.
20:33.27snirksand sends it to a text file
20:33.27tale_er, not kergoth, mis-attributed, i meant durcyn
20:33.29Gagoriankergoth: Yeah "just iterate over the dressed items and total it up" confused me then.
20:33.31kenlyric|workdurcyn: for the trade window?
20:34.50durcynkenlyric|work: yep.
20:34.50tale_ooooooh
20:34.50CIA-1703toadkiller * r24836 10AutoBarConfig/ (AutoBarConfig.lua AutoBarConfig.xml):
20:34.51CIA-17AutoBarConfig:
20:34.51CIA-17-- Extend icon gapping minimum down to 0
20:34.51tale_yeah, you have postal then.  grennon is focused on making postal *just for mail*
20:34.51add\\Leialynis there any ace2 or even fubar addon that displays coordinates on the worldmap? I thought locationFu did this, but does not now
20:34.51kergothGagorian: well, you can try on multiple items in the dressing room, i just want to summarize the total differences between current equipped and what all is being tried on.  then you can ctrl+click on a closetgnome set and see the exact stat diffs between sets
20:34.51durcynkenlyric|work: the default ui actually forces you to *shudder* drag things onto frames.
20:34.51kergothif that makes sense
20:34.52tale_whereas in postman i carried the feature for AH and trade windows, for interface consistency
20:34.52Sroshadd\\Leialyn, get Cartographer
20:34.52durcynadd\\Leialyn: Cartographer, but it's more than just coords by a very long shot
20:34.52add\\LeialynI know ;>
20:34.53add\\Leialynthats why I ask ;P
20:35.01CIA-1703toadkiller * r24837 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarProfile.lua Core.lua):
20:35.01CIA-17AutoBar:
20:35.01CIA-17-- Extend icon gapping minimum down to 0
20:35.08kergothi'm sure you could remove almost all of cart's modules if you just wanted that one thing
20:35.08kenlyric|workI have postman
20:35.21add\\LeialynToadkiller ?
20:35.36kergoth?
20:35.38Matrix110Thanks for this change<3
20:35.47tale_well postman should work for trade windows :)  (it's less ace-y in philosophy that way, but ...)  i use the feature regularly
20:35.53kergothadd\\Leialyn: CIA announces svn commits
20:35.53snirkssmall question
20:35.57add\\LeialynI know
20:36.01durcynadd\\Leialyn: the only other ace mod that did coords was LocationFu, but that was removed in favor of cart.
20:36.07add\\Leialynupdating svn and not beeing in channel here >.<
20:36.15snirksthe transcriptor SV, does it contain anything important, or is simply used as the transcriptor log and content can be deleted safely?
20:36.16kergothah yea, that is annoying :)
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20:36.21kenlyric|worktale_: I'm standing at the mailbox and alt-click does nothing.
20:36.28kenlyric|workbut maybe that's a conflict with CT.
20:36.37add\\Leialyn*sigh* ok durcyn
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20:36.53kenlyric|workI'm also get a runaway error with sanity (up to 12000 now), so who knows.
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20:36.55tale_maybe, i confess i don't run with both enabled, but again .. kinda surprised.  would expect the handler for one or the other to run and win
20:37.09Antiarckenlyric|work: Can you provide more info?
20:37.11add\\Leialynget me Toadkiller here :( I have -1 gapping at Bartender3 Dreamlayout and Autobar Dreamlayout allows only 1 ... and now 0 ... I want -1 ><
20:37.17AntiarcStack dump of the first one or something?
20:37.37tale_relog with sanity disabled and see if that changes anything?
20:37.46durcyntale_: depends on whether postman replaces the default frame with another name, since altclick handlers are set for specific frames
20:37.54tale_postman does not
20:38.01kenlyric|workAntiarc: trying to figure out how to do that now.
20:38.03tale_it just hooks onmodifiedclick
20:38.37AntiarcSanity doesn't do anything to the mail frame - it just reads the contents of your mailbox when you open it. Haven't tried it with mail mods other than gmail though.
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20:39.19kenlyric|work[2007/01/12 15:32:36-222-x2]: Sanity2-2.1\Sanity.lua:498: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got number)
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20:39.45Antiarckenlyric|work: Which revision are you running?
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20:40.09kenlyric|workit's a really long bug actually, having problems in KC_items and onebag.
20:40.21AntiarcWell, that's probably just ace stuff.
20:40.35AntiarcI think I fixed the root of it earlier this morning, but I haven't been able to reproduce it yet.
20:40.42AntiarcSo I can't test it entirely thoroughly. >_>
20:41.23grennonso im reading the dewdrop docs, but im not quite sure what cursorX cursorY really do
20:41.57durcyngrennon: what kind of bribe do you need to make ACTAI actually open the trade window with a friendly player targetted?
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20:42.19kergothi used to despise dreamlayout, but its growing on me
20:42.24grennondurcyn: a Wii
20:42.30kenlyric|workis there a way to check your current version from in-game?
20:42.31nymbialol
20:42.41kenlyric|workoh well, there was an update to sanity that I didn't have.
20:42.46grennonits a simple change acutally, the code exists
20:42.51Amadeokergoth: I'm still a fan of zoomed buttons
20:42.56grennonim surprised someone hasnt ninja committed it
20:43.01AntiarcSee if the update fixes it.
20:43.06kenlyric|workwhile I'm thinking of it I should probably remove ctmail too.
20:43.33grennonive just held off doing it because i might need to rename the mod
20:43.43tale_why rename it?
20:43.49grennonam i correct in thinking whatever gets hooked first gets called first?
20:43.58kenlyric|workAntiarc: don't really know what triggers it, so it'll be hard to know for sure. Seemed to happen when I visited a vendor and sold something, but not sure.
20:44.09grennonso if mod Aname is loaded before mod Bname and hooks first, the Aname hook is in the hook array first?
20:44.33grennonif so, then i might rename it ZZAltClickToAddItem
20:44.41tale_ah, nice thought.
20:44.50tale_(i don't know the answer on the hooking order)
20:45.00grennonso that it doesnt conflict with the alt click handler in Fence, Postal, etc, etc
20:45.04Antiarckenlyric|work: It'll trigger when you mouse over an item in your bags
20:45.11AntiarcBut hopefully, the update fixes it.
20:45.23kenlyric|workyeah, the errors did mention something about the tooltip.
20:45.43durcyngrennon: toss it at the end with some IsAddonLoaded treatment maybe?
20:45.58[Ammo]no guarantees
20:46.01grennonid rather not whitelist addons
20:46.15[Ammo]you can not guarantee you're the last hook
20:46.36durcynor just a config to disable certain hooks
20:46.59grennonall i want it do is have a good chance at playing nice with most every other mod with an alt-click handler in as little code as possible
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20:48.07grennonbut yeah, today im playing with dewdrop and making a popup "contact list" when you open the mailframe, fun stuff
20:49.34dafirewith self.MikSBT = MikSBT I can store a local pointer to the global variable and all calls to self.MikSBT will be faster then calling the global object in my functions ?
20:49.47kenlyric|workholy cow... I updated and now it's taking my forever to zone into the game...
20:49.58dafires/global variable/addon object/
20:50.20grennon[Ammo]: even if it isnt guaranteed, would making it likely to load last mean it hooks after 99 percent of everything that doesnt LOD?
20:50.46[Ammo]it would but then OnEnable is called in a semi random order
20:51.00[Ammo](in the case of ace2 mods)
20:51.11[Ammo]so no guarantees still
20:51.20[Ammo]you could optdep all the addons that might potentially hook
20:51.24[Ammo]that would make it load after it
20:51.29[Ammo]but no guarantees still
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20:54.02Daemonacouldnt you just name it zzzsomething and make it non-ace?
20:54.07CIA-1703kergoth * r24839 10kEnergy/ (6 files in 2 dirs): kEnergy: /* Scripts and docs for releases. */
20:54.08bigzeroanyone know what's new in 2.0.4?
20:54.19kergothdafire: self.MikSBT is not a local.  accessing it will involve a lookup on the self table
20:54.22Daemonaor make it load on demand and load all addons and then your hook addon?
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20:54.32kergothdafire: so the benefit will be very small
20:54.37fatbrainag !!
20:54.39fatbrainunitframes...
20:54.42fatbrainpet party raid thingies
20:54.43fatbraingief
20:54.45fatbrain</spam>
20:55.04Thorgardfatbrain, diaf!
20:55.05dafireso I'd better store it in a local file variable
20:55.08dafirethanks .9
20:55.20kenlyric|workAntiarc, this was on a fresh load after updating. [2007/01/12 15:52:05-224-x1]: Sanity2-2.1\SanityItemCache.lua:243: attempt to index field 'BagInfo' (a nil value)    AceEvent-2.0-23383 (FuBar):251: in function `TriggerEvent'    AceEvent-2.0-23383 (FuBar):962: in function <...face\AddOns\FuBar\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:955>
20:55.33kenlyric|workAntiarc: also on line 262 of SanityItemCache
20:55.38AntiarcBleh.
20:55.41AntiarcIt's the error that won't die.
20:55.48grennonoh snap, its patch day
20:56.09AntiarcHm.
20:56.11kenlyric|workand then of course, my ever-present Heyfu error.
20:56.18AntiarcThat has to be happening before the DB upgrade happens.
20:56.37grennon.toc version got ticked up again today i take it?
20:56.42steev64yep
20:56.45Antiarc20004?
20:56.48kenlyric|workwait... the heyfu error seems to be related to the same AceEvent code.
20:56.52steev64yeah
20:56.56kergothany rogue or druid around that can confirm kenergy's new 'fill' option works fine? i want to release 0.6 of it, but that part was drycoded :P
20:57.04steev64kergoth: hm
20:57.07kenlyric|workuh, our toc didn't get updated.
20:57.10steev64give me a sec, ill download it
20:57.17kergothcool, thanks much
20:57.17kenlyric|workAt least half of my mods still said they were in date.
20:57.30ckknightAntiarc: it's still 20003
20:57.44AntiarcSo confused.
20:57.55grennondoesnt appear they bumped it, but they did reset the load of date addons flag on everyone
20:57.57steev64Fetching external item into 'HealOrganizer/Libs/RosterLib-2.0'
20:57.57steev64svn: URL 'http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/RosterLib/RosterLib-2.0' doesn't exist
20:58.14bigzeroi guess it's because nothing ui wise has changed...
20:58.18Tranceranyone knows of a random mount addon besides mountme (it requires fubar which I don't use)
20:58.26steev64is it kEnergy or kenergy?
20:58.29steev64(svn co)
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20:59.09kenlyric|worktoc usually doesn't change on minor revisions, except 2.0.3 was hardly a minor revision.
21:01.05steev64kergoth: just curious - are the externals also roundrobined?
21:01.32steev64or is it the initial connection that is
21:01.53nymbiaexternals get round-robin'd
21:01.56packetlsssteev64: connections are roundrobined
21:01.57kenlyric|workAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/4962 http://ace.pastey.net/4963 http://ace.pastey.net/4964 are the three errors I get, in that order
21:02.21steev64nymbia: what i mean by that is, each connection to checkout an external may or may not hit a different server
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21:02.24[Ammo]rosterlib2.0 is deleted
21:02.30[Ammo]only rosterlib2.1 is avialable
21:02.38steev64[Ammo]: right - but the external is pointing to 2.0
21:02.48CIA-1703antiarc * r24840 10Sanity2/SanityItemCache.lua: Sanity2: Fix to prevent a race condition that occurs when FuBar wants data from us before we're ready to give it up.
21:02.50durcynpoke the author with a stick.
21:02.51Mikmaretardlib :D
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21:03.07kenlyric|workAntiarc: and the sanity I updated to was 24828
21:03.13AntiarcOk, great.
21:03.19steev64who is progman
21:03.21nymbiasteev64: i believe the svn client creates a new connection for each external item it fetches, so yes.
21:03.24AntiarcDon't grab 24840 - I just saw another thing to fix.
21:03.37durcynsteev64: you can --ignore-externals until it's fixed
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21:03.53steev64durcyn: good point
21:04.09kenlyric|workI generally have to wait for the zip to be generated and this week for it to get down to the mirror.
21:04.27steev64im just tryin to check out kEnergy at the moment
21:04.30Panyegot a problem with francophil sans font in CF2, it seems to be ignoring underscores??
21:04.40Pkekyowhy the hell does bartender fuck up every time I change characters ffs? the bloody profiles wont' fricking work!
21:04.46kenlyric|workheh, yeah, the runaway error starts when I open the mailbox.
21:04.51CIA-1703antiarc * r24841 10Sanity2/SanityItemCache.lua: Sanity2: Another fix for the DB upgrade error. Made the wrong assumptions about AceDB and defaults; this should fix that.
21:04.54AntiarcWhich is the runaway?
21:05.41kenlyric|work[2007/01/12 16:04:26-224-x1326]: Sanity2-2.1\SanityItemCache.lua:384: attempt to index field 'BagInfo' (a nil value)
21:05.42kenlyric|workSanity2-2.1\SanityEvents.lua:3: in function `OnUpdate'
21:05.42kenlyric|work<string>:"SanityDummyFrame:OnUpdate":2: in function <[string "SanityDummyFrame:OnUpdate"]:1>
21:05.44kenlyric|workoops.
21:05.48AntiarcAha, ok.
21:05.52AntiarcThat should go away with 24841.
21:05.54kenlyric|workhmmm, well that was supposted to be a pasty link.
21:05.55TrancerTekkub: is FuBar dearly required for MountMe?
21:05.58Pkekyo~Bartender
21:06.08purlget Bartender2 + modules from http://svn.wowace.com/files or http://wow.reaktio.net/addons
21:06.15JoshBorkeKemayo: ping
21:06.32Grinesomeone should update that to Bartender3 :P
21:06.35VelkynWhats the difference in Bartender2 and Bartender3?
21:06.42durcynVelkyn: 1.
21:06.47kenlyric|worktale_: does postman let you mass mail?
21:06.52steev64bartender2 is dead
21:06.57VelkynDurcyn; lol - thanks.
21:07.00tale_not yet, in development
21:07.07kenlyric|workah, ok.
21:07.08tale_but grennon's postal has it already, i believe
21:07.09AntiarcThanks for the help, kenlyric|work
21:07.17AntiarcI -think- I should have it knocked out now.
21:07.29steev64does progman use a different nick on irc?
21:07.30tale_we're pursuing a slightly different philosophy on how to do it, so you'll get to pick which suits you more
21:07.33kenlyric|workAntiarc: no problem. I hope one day to get rid of my bags entirely and use sanity :)
21:07.54ckknightVelkyn: Bartender3 is for WoW 2.0+
21:08.11tale_but you might want to look at /pm autosend -- if you have it turned on, then alt-click on an item will automatically send the item you click to the recipient in the To box
21:08.13dafireckknight: i hope that looks ok ;) http://ace.pastey.net/4968
21:08.15VelkynDarn that WoW 2.0
21:08.42tale_(which can make mass mailing pretty quick, even without a separate pane)
21:08.45yacoobWoW wanted to be 2.0, just like Web :D
21:08.48durcyni rather liked 2.0, got rid of a lot of cruft.
21:08.51kenlyric|workactually, quicker.
21:09.00fatbrainag`: What's making party-/raidpet frames troublesome?
21:09.12kenlyric|worktale_: yeah, I think I just wet myself :)
21:09.22tale_hehe sorry
21:09.31durcynkenlyric|work: fyi that's how postal does it atm >_>
21:12.40steev64kergoth: still waiting on the externals (for kEnergy that is)
21:13.45KirkburnPanye, known problem with that font
21:14.19Sarozteleport on twins is bugged in bigwigs
21:14.19Sarozgg
21:14.36ag`fatbrain, not supported by the blizzard secure header
21:14.44ckknightseems good, dafire
21:15.10kergothsteev64: hehe, no rush
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21:15.33ag`srsly... I just don't get why they're not allowing the party header to create pets. Because what the hell, raid headers can spawn up to 40 units? For one header?
21:15.33steev64game is loading, i *should* have the externals, or at least, i hope i do
21:15.48steev64just run into a minor issue with checking out when someone bumps something
21:15.57steev64because every time you do a new update
21:15.59steev64er
21:16.09durcynand that is why i run standalone libs
21:16.18steev64issues with uFriends and uGuilds, but thats all
21:16.28kenlyric|workAntiarc: while you're here and maybe in a good mood, any idea if you'll be able to have sanity supress default bank/bags, and move stuff between bank and bags within sanity?
21:16.33nevcairielag`: i just think they didnt put it in yet, maybe its still planned
21:16.39steev64kergoth: what am i checking again?
21:16.51KemayoJosh_Borke: You pinged me?
21:17.00ag`nevcairiel, dunno...
21:17.42kergothsteev64: the 'fill' option, it makes the bar fill instead of empty
21:17.47durcynspeaking of secure headers, whatever happened with duel and disenchant being no longer protected functions?  i'm still getting errors for disenchant in 2.0.3 :>
21:18.38Q6i like arkinventory better than sanity
21:18.49Antiarcark and sanity perform two functions, really.
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21:19.17Antiarckenlyric|work: I don't have any plans for suppressing the bank at the moment; bag suppression should work on autopopups, but I think it may be buggy. I haven't tested that too thoroughly.
21:19.38steev64kergoth: er
21:19.51AntiarcYou can move stuff between the bag and bank, though - just right-click an item with your bank open. It invokes the Blizzard handlers, so it moves it between bags/bank when you do that.
21:20.07AntiarcSanity isn't really supposed to be a bag replacement as much as it is an augmentation to let you find stuff you own.
21:20.17kenlyric|workI guess I don't need bag supression, since it only opens one, and I can always position sanity in that area.
21:20.18AntiarcI use it alongside the default bags, personally.
21:21.00kenlyric|workyeah, that's the way I've always used it. I'm probably trying to imbue it with too much functionality.
21:21.14AntiarcEh. It's 95% of a bag mod, so that's understandable :)
21:21.26AntiarcIt's just the last 5% that would drive me nuts trying to use as my only bag mod. :)
21:21.28kenlyric|workI was thinking of a magical land where I didn't need the onebag suite too.
21:21.50AntiarcThe biggest thing it lacks by far is the ability to deal with empty slots.
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21:22.08durcynadd in defragging and it's 99%
21:22.11AntiarcFor example, you can't split a stack using just Sanity - there's nowhere to drop the split portion.
21:22.18AntiarcSanity does defragging.
21:22.25durcynoh, well then.
21:22.29durcynguess i should try it =P
21:22.30Sarozvhaarr
21:22.37Daemonakergoth did you happen to run into an issue with cartographer_herbalism when someone is grped who has no herbalism with someone with herbalism and that person gathers stuff ? i seem to get an error because herbalism is load on demand for me when the other person loots a herb and tries to share it
21:22.38vhaarrhey
21:22.41steev64kergoth: http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/fillwhat.png
21:22.46Sarozvhaarr, twin teleport is fucked :|
21:22.51kagaro|workanyone know how to make a singleton in lu a?
21:22.56Sarozvhaarr, only registering half the time
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21:23.11vhaarrgrrr
21:23.12kagaro|works/lu a/lua
21:23.27kagaro|workck: is that possible ?
21:23.36Antiarckagaro|work: Just use a global and have a helper method that returns the global if it's not nil, or returns a new copy of whatever if it is and assigns it to the global.
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21:23.39steev64kergoth: its like that for fill and colour
21:23.40kenlyric|workyeah, I'm thinking about dropping mrplow, since the only function I use in it is "stack"
21:23.43tale_ff7foo? :)
21:23.51ckknightAntiarc: no, don't use globals.
21:23.52kenlyric|worknothing foo about ff7
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21:23.58ckknightkagaro|work: anything's possible.
21:24.00steev64so im not exactly sure how to turn around the fill :)
21:24.01fatbrainag`: thanks
21:24.13ThorgardHmm.
21:24.14ckknightbut there's no reason why a Singleton couldn't exist.
21:24.43AntiarcWell, global to some scope. If you want a singleton in an object, that's easy enough to constrain scope for.
21:24.43ThorgardWhat's the latest rev of kEnergy, kergoth? 24839?
21:24.43AntiarcThough, global in limited scope doesn't make sense. :D
21:24.43ckknightyep, pretty much
21:24.43kagaro|workI gona do a new version of talismonger, that triggers events. I dont want those events fired 3 times if 3 different mods are using talismonger
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21:24.48AntiarcI know what I mean, dammit ;_;
21:24.50ckknightif you want to use AceOO, you'd put it in the class statically.
21:25.05KemayoAceLibraries are pretty much singletons already, as I understand it.
21:25.27jag111anyone know if there's an updated Fubar_HeyFU?
21:25.41CIA-1703kergoth * r24842 10kEnergy/addon.lua: kEnergy: it helps if the fill option is the correct AceOptions 'type'.
21:25.46kergothcopy/paste errors ftl
21:25.53kergoth:)
21:25.58vhaarrSaroz: Transcript?
21:26.06vhaarrSaroz: And BigWigs_Debugger log.
21:26.22jag111anyone know the script command to open a whisper to a player?
21:26.59jag111like i send the function the player name as a strong and it opens up the whisper box for me to type to them?
21:27.10fatbraininterestings....
21:27.53yacoobBigWigs_Debugger.lol
21:28.04yacooba file in which BigWigs generates jokes about bossess being fought.
21:29.07Sarozvhaarr, I'll try if we wipe now
21:29.18steev64trying again :)
21:29.25steev64then i gotta take off
21:29.30odtwhich area is best to farm tin ore
21:29.34steev64they tried sending me home from work an hour and a half ago because of the weather
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21:29.43steev64winter storms and whatnot
21:29.52odtjust went through silverpine and not much there
21:29.56Thorgardkergoth, I got a kEnergy error you can play with. ;P
21:30.27Thorgardkergoth, went to standby, then after coming back from standby (in cat form on my druid): "[2007/01/12 15:29:35-55-x1]: kEnergy\tick.lua:146: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'olden' (a nil value)"
21:30.59kergothdamnit, i need a high level druid
21:31.06durcynodt: barrens, thousand needs, etc
21:31.23Thorgardkergoth, fill seems to work fine, though.
21:31.30kergothokay cool, /me looks into that error
21:31.38steev64holy jebus wow is loading slow, wtf
21:31.52Sarozvhaarr, seems vendetta is working -.-
21:32.02steev64work has a super fat pipe too, so this i weird
21:32.15ZealotOnAStickworking for what?
21:32.29vhaarrSaroz: heh
21:32.44KemayoJoshBorke: Your duality is confusing.  But I shall ping both of you, just in case.
21:33.05Sarozvhaarr, so transscriptor and debugger?
21:33.11vhaarrSaroz: A transcript at least.
21:33.14Sarozk
21:33.35Daemona*scratch* shouldnt energy work for rogue and cat-druid the same way?
21:33.47Mikmaass booty ass
21:34.04kenlyric|workheh, I just confused about half of my mods by deleting a char and replacing it with one of the same name.
21:34.15JoshBorkeKemayo: woot!
21:34.36JoshBorkeKemayo: i want to add a simple timer bar to FuBar_ToFu
21:34.40steev64!Changelog CandyBar
21:34.41steev64er
21:34.49Antiarckenlyric|work: r24841 is up. Try and update and see if that fixes your problems.
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21:35.18KemayoJoshBorke: Might be worth doing, definitely.
21:35.32durcynMikma: I added the low hp/ low mana sounds to sbt, where should i send the diffs?
21:35.38KemayoJoshBorke: I was considering faking the castbar event sequence. :D
21:35.42durcyner, the sounds from SCT, i should say
21:35.49steev64kergoth: im gonna say no, i have fill checked and its not showing up at all
21:36.00Pkekyowhy the hell does bartender fuck up every time I change characters ffs? the bloody profiles wont' fricking work!
21:36.00Pkekyoanyone know what I can do?
21:36.13Kemayo(Under the theory that it would translate into universal castbar mod support.)
21:36.19Mikmadurcyn: i have no idea
21:36.28Thorgardkergoth, another 'obeservation', I've 'shown' set to 'stealth' so it'll be shown in stealth and combat (expected), however, after a fight is over it doesn't hide the energy ticket until I'm at 100% energy, is this the intended behaviour?
21:36.29durcynMikma: you're not the same Mikma that wrote MSBT?
21:36.32steev64anywho, gotta head home before it gets worse
21:36.38Mikma~mikma
21:36.45purlwell, mikma is an agitator but i love him anyway
21:36.45AntiarcPkekyo: Bartender3 SVN is unstable - consider using a wowi release if possible.
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21:36.56Mikmanoeeees
21:37.01durcynwell then.
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21:37.04Mikmawell anyway i'm not Mikord
21:37.33durcyni think i need more sleep before i try to remember names, sorry.
21:37.48JoshBorkeKemayo: it's not that hard to create one.  it's just a statusbar after all :-D
21:37.49ToadkillerWhat is everyone doing for keybindings?  Rolling your own or hacking the blizz ones to work?
21:38.00kenlyric|workAntiarc: seems to have. I just have my one heyfu error now. Noting about sanity, and sanity is showing items again.
21:38.07AntiarcWoot. Thanks. :D
21:38.23kenlyric|workAntiarc: let me check the hunter who I know was broken.
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21:38.44kergothThorgard: it shows during stealth and while your energy is ticking, currently. it doesnt go by the 'combat' state.  do you think going based on combat would be more useful?  i figured this would be best, as there was no point in showing my ticker while i'm running away from a mob or something :)
21:38.45stavmaris auto bar suppose to be dim/dark prior to using it after dying?
21:38.49[dRaCo]is it just me or does dreambuffs screw up the icons from time to time?
21:39.01durcyn[dRaCo]: that's not dreambuffs.
21:39.24KemayoJoshBorke: This is true.
21:39.27[dRaCo]but?
21:39.35[dRaCo]or, what is it then?
21:39.38Toadkillerstavmar: no, I am still mangling around that code, meanwhile it sometimes lies to you
21:39.50kenlyric|workAntiarc: confirmed. Works great. Thanks.
21:39.57AntiarcGood stuff.
21:40.01KemayoJoshBorke: If you want to add one in, go for it.  Make sure you add an option to disable it if people want to, though.
21:40.02durcyn[dRaCo]: buff textures have been occasionally wrong even in the default ui as well, it's blizzard fucking up.
21:40.07[dRaCo]ic
21:40.16durcynyou might try clearing your wdb
21:40.17stavmarToadkiller: ok thanks
21:40.43Peri:) the wdb that's been moved to the cache folder (in case you can't find it)
21:40.47Mikmahttp://www.sportsdignity.com/
21:41.01Thorgardkergoth, I dunno if it's more 'useful', it's just the way the other energy bars I've seen have handled it. ;) Was just an observation, though.
21:41.13kenlyric|workAnyone know why this shows up in my Addons.txt even though i never disable/enable mods in the char selection screen? "FuBar-compat-1.2: disabled"
21:41.38ckknightkenlyric|work: cause FuBar specifically disables that to stop bitchy users
21:41.51KemayoYeah, 1.2 compatibility is long gone.
21:43.56Matrix110hmm uFriends is fucked
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21:46.00Antiarchttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2082059,00.asp
21:46.02AntiarcUgh.
21:46.18AntiarciPhone = not programmable, and they're going to make it hard as they can to unlock.
21:46.49VelkynIs there an Ace mod that does everything VBagnon does?
21:47.47snirksDevice for Input Output Transmission
21:47.49snirksiDIOT
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21:48.19snirksvelkyn, im not sure, but maybe the one<bank, bag, blabla,blabla> addons
21:48.34snirksjust onebag and onebank wont let you see other chars' banks tho
21:48.36ZealotOnAStickVelkyn: Ehh . . . Baggins has the categorization/sort stuff . . . and I think a "One bag sorted" mode now.
21:49.02ckknightAntiarc: frankly, I think that's the best for them.
21:49.22AntiarcI'll not be buying one as long as Cingular comes attached.
21:49.25ckknightand if they do allow extra programs, they'll be Apple-approved or Apple-made ones.
21:49.31cncfanatic1ckknight, there can't be multiple mixins with an OnInstanceInit method declared ? I just tried and it didn't let me
21:49.33ckknightyea, I agree, I hate Cingular
21:49.36ckknightsuch bitches.
21:49.38AntiarcIt's a sexy little piece of hardware, but Cinguar can bite me.
21:49.40ckknightcncfanatic1: false.
21:49.50kenlyric|workas opposed to those knights of virtue at the other cell phone companies.
21:50.06ckknightkenlyric|work: Sprint, which I use, really isn't bad
21:50.14AntiarcI had a nightmare experience with Sprint.
21:50.27kenlyric|workI've used them all. They are all nightmares in their own ways, in their own times.
21:50.28ckknightthey're all bitches
21:50.28AntiarcTook me 2 weeks to be able to speak to a real-live person on the phone to cancel my account.
21:50.40AntiarcIt was the worst customer service experience of my life, bar none.
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21:50.49cncfanaticsckknight: Method conflict in attempt to mixin. Field "OnInstanceInit"
21:51.01AntiarcAnd yeah, picking a cell provider is much like chosing which blunt object you want your leg hacked off with.
21:51.02ckknightyou don't export it.
21:51.19cncfanaticsoh, ok :)
21:51.23CIA-1703morgalm * r24843 10MorgDKP/ (BidQuery.lua MorgDKP-deDE.lua MorgDKP.lua):
21:51.23CIA-17MorgDKP:
21:51.24CIA-17- nil error in bidquery cause of BC non existent
21:51.24CIA-17- nil error in output results
21:51.31kenlyric|workAntiarc: that's a well written analogy of the market.
21:51.32trhin the eu there'll be at least 4 providers to sell the iphone :)
21:52.29kergothThorgard: nod.  well let me know if you think that in combat would be more useful than when ticking, its an easy change to make.
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21:54.02Nomad_WandererYou guys got the macro ready?  
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21:54.06ThorgardA'righty.
21:54.09Nomad_Wanderer"CHECK LOAD OUT OF DATE ADDONS"
21:54.20durcyntoc is still 20003
21:54.29durcynit's just a hotfix
21:54.51Nomad_WandererI had to check load out of date again
21:54.58Nomad_Wandererit defaulted to unchecked again
21:55.06durcynohlame.
21:55.24Sarozvhaarr, ok got it
21:57.17vhaarrSaroz: cool
21:58.27Sarozhttp://random-guild.com/dump/twins.log
21:59.33Saroz8% wipe, dont ask
21:59.56Grineon what Saroz?
21:59.59Saroztwins
22:00.04Sarozwe're pugging it -.-
22:00.09Sarozthem*
22:00.18CIA-1703dafire * r24844 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (4 files):
22:00.18CIA-17FuBar_TopScoreFu
22:00.18CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:00.18CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:01.08rpowers__does CIA-17 just report SVN commits?
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22:01.21Sarozvhaarr, that log isnt usefull at all though -.-
22:01.31ckknightyes, rpowers__
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22:02.23rpowers__pugging the emps?
22:02.29Sarozye
22:02.30durcynSaroz: is there a space afer "Vek'lor" and "Vek'nilash" in your combatlog?
22:02.32Sarozdid it last week, np
22:02.55Sarozno durcyn
22:02.59rpowers__our guild on zuluhed got twin emps finally, and then no one showed up for any raids after that. that was almost a month ago :(
22:03.01CIA-1703nymbia * r24845 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Food is now complete.
22:03.05durcynthere is in your transcript.
22:03.09cncfanaticsckknight, do I need to do class.super.prototype.init(self); or something when using OnInstanceInit ?
22:03.35Sarozdurcyn: Emperor Vek'nilash is afflicted by Silencing Shot.
22:03.42ckknightno
22:03.50durcynEmperor Vek'lor 's Twin Teleport fails. Tommas is immune.
22:04.13cncfanaticsdamn, then why is my code not working ? I'm doing a lot of self.Frame calls, but when checking from another mixin self.Frame is nil
22:04.20nymbiadurcyn: that'd be one of the aggro changing components.
22:04.25Sarozdurcyn *shrug*
22:04.31stavmarso if I have three bugs in bugsack referencing Ace2 where can i post them so you guys can see them?
22:04.36durcynjust poking around the log, thought it might be noteworthy.
22:04.43durcynteleport timers are the only thing not working?
22:04.56Sarozyes
22:04.58cncfanaticsstavmar: ace.pastey.net
22:05.04Sarozdurcyn, working half the time
22:05.19KemayoI recall Tem saying that item tooltip hooking should be vastly improved when 2.0.3 hits.  There any examples of the New Tooltip Order out there?
22:05.30durcynSaroz: what's your combat log range cvar?
22:05.42Saroznot sure, whats it named
22:07.00durcynCombatLogRangeCreature
22:07.16grennonhttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/grennon/postal_blackbook.jpg
22:07.24grennontell me what im working on
22:07.27nymbiaKemayo: i've been working on something that uses that on and off
22:08.34stavmarhttp://ace.pastey.net/4969   Did not block any of my activities but I keep seeing the first two errors everytime i log on.
22:09.08ZealotOnAStickgrennon: does that auto-popup  at send mail frame, or is it brought up with a button or keybind?
22:09.25grennonZealotOnAStick: pops up when you click the sendmail frame
22:09.26nymbiastavmar: those look like they'd only happen in combat, were you in combat at login?
22:09.26ZealotOnAStickI personally was sort of fond of MailTo's dropdown menu, thought it was limited to . . . I dunno, maybe 10 names or so?
22:09.44CIA-1703tekkub * r24846 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (6 files):
22:09.44CIA-17FuBar_CorkFu
22:09.44CIA-17- Partial 2.0 goodness. To use make a macro, "/click CorkFuFrame"
22:09.44CIA-17- Any module that derives from the buff template *should* work
22:09.44CIA-17- Priest modules updated to new Babble-Spell
22:09.54grennonZealotOnAStick: this menu will have Friends, Guild submenus
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22:10.15ZealotOnAStickCustom categories?
22:10.21Vanishckknight: ping
22:10.29grennonZealotOnAStick: the other thing is im studying on, is if Postal_Bulk is loaded it pops up to the right of Postal_Blackbook
22:10.30stavmarnymbia: I may have reloaded my UI in AV but the first two are continually coming up
22:10.38Aileen_CorkFu!!  zomg! :)
22:10.41stavmarwhen i first log into the game
22:10.47grennonZealotOnAStick: but if the user doesnt have the blackbook loaded it takes the same spot
22:11.11grennonZealotOnAStick: then comes Postal_QuickPick which is yet another window, which displays links to the mailable items in you inv
22:11.16ZealotOnAStickAdd in the ability to add custom categories and put people into them (somewhat like Manufac can do), and you'd have a big winner.  "Mules" "Customers" etc.
22:11.23grennonZealotOnAStick: so if your running all 3 it displays them side by side
22:11.26CIA-1703Throndorin * r24847 10/ (branches/BSM2/ trunk/BSM2/): not already working, if a some functionality is implemented it will be moved back
22:11.30nymbiastavmar: whenever you're in combat?  then it's taint
22:11.41Icerothdoes anyone know if GetManaRegen() is working correctly?
22:11.48grennonZealotOnAStick: so you click a contact, then can start clicking items from the list box
22:11.48durcynmm, remember names is the first step to assigning itemids to them permanently
22:11.50ZealotOnAStickAre they movable, or specific fixed spots?
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22:11.57grennonZealotOnAStick: working on that part
22:12.06Icerothi'm getting higher regen values in bear form than in caster but cat/travel form get lower than caster
22:12.46VanishAnyone who Knows FuBar plugin Coding: I'm trying to get TinyTipFu to remember it's location on the minimap. Can you give me a command that I should be looking for to fix or add?
22:12.53Matrix110Tekkub <3 thanks for updating CorkFu!
22:13.03stavmarnymbia: so is there something i can test to help anrrow down the problem a little more?
22:13.06vhaarrVanish: It has to mixin AceDB.
22:13.30Vanishvhaarr: Hmmm. Alright. I'll have to dig in and see how that's done then
22:13.49Vanishvhaarr: tyvm
22:13.51ZealotOnAStickgrennon: I know I can be a pest at times, but my questions/suggestions are because I'd like to see Postal end up as -THE- hands down, absolutely best no-questions mail mod.
22:14.05nymbiastavmar: unfortunately, it's very easy for unrelated addons to taint the pet bar, so you're likely stuck with playing the disable addons game.  or just ignoring the errors. ;)
22:14.39grennonZealotOnAStick: meh, im too lazy for that
22:14.45stavmarok, appreciate it I will see if i can find something
22:14.47snirksis there a way to make aguf create a frame that can contain 40 units?
22:14.50Vanishgrennon: will Postal let me nab AH items just by clicking the icon for the mail without having to open said mail? And then delete the mail after the item is nabbed, ala AH Mail Collect?
22:14.55snirkssomething like perfect raid showing all in one
22:15.01snirksperfectraid*
22:15.09durcynsnirks: yes, but they won't be sorted
22:15.18snirkshm ok
22:15.23grennonVanish: shift-click a mail, you snarf whatever it has in it
22:15.37VanishSweet!
22:15.37snirkscould you give me a hint as to what word to look for to make it all in one?
22:15.42grennonVanish: it even does a two-pass items/money snarf when you do it
22:15.47snirksdoes it have anything to do with creating a new group?
22:15.50grennonVanish: but it may be broken
22:15.54durcynsnirks: look under the grouping portion of the dewdrop
22:16.10VanishHmm.. don't break things... ;)
22:16.12grennonVanish: regression testing is kinda light since i have to get guildies to bomb me with mail of different types
22:16.39Grinesnirks, if you want 1 group just set filter to 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
22:16.54snirksahh
22:16.59snirksGrine: gotcha :)
22:17.01snirksthanks to both of you
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22:17.26Grinenp, feels good to help somenoe instead of just spamming featurerequests
22:17.27nymbiaholy 300 people in the channel..
22:17.47Grineholy 300 people in channel BATMAN!
22:17.50nymbiaindeed
22:17.58Daemona299 to be exact ;)
22:18.10nymbiait was 300 before Garns quit
22:18.15nymbiaJEEZ GARNS
22:18.23Daemonasorry, had to be a smartass about that ;)
22:18.28VanishWe had 321 yesterday
22:18.44nymbiai think posting the irc channel on the static page when the site goes down is what does it ;)
22:18.51VanishYup
22:19.04Daemona—› User peak in #wowace: 332 (11/01/07)
22:19.14nymbiaheh
22:19.20Pkekyoguys, for real, I need some help with Bartender here
22:19.37durcynwait.  november first hasn't happened yet!  damned european dates =P
22:19.37nymbiaPkekyo: hit it with a stick.  
22:19.39GrinePkekyo, waht about it=
22:19.40DaemonaPkekyo the wowace.com/files one or the one from wowi ?
22:19.44nymbiaPkekyo: what seems to the be trouble?
22:19.45VanishPkekyo: Order a tall cool one. He'll fetch it just fine...
22:19.50PkekyoI can't get the bloody profile stuff to work, can't change chars and customize the bars without it all getting fucked up on all my other chars
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22:19.57Pkekyonymbia: thanks, but I tried that, didn't work
22:20.03grennonZealotOnAStick: try this on for size
22:20.05grennonhttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/grennon/postal_blackbook.jpg
22:20.06Pkekyodaemona: wowace.com/files
22:20.11CIA-1703rabbit * r24848 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Twins: Attempt to fix the teleport check.
22:20.13grennonmuch nicer than a silly dropdown box
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22:20.33VanishOh no... Rabbit is working on de bosses again
22:20.43grennonZealotOnAStick: wait a sec, it didnt update :-)
22:20.54VanishGrennon: cool
22:20.54vhaarrSaroz: try now
22:21.05grennonZealotOnAStick: you might have to reload your browser since its the same link
22:21.18Sarozk vhaarr
22:21.18ThorgardPkekyo, is this before or after setting the profile to something other than Default?
22:21.22grennonbut basically i hooked the sendmailnameeditbox onenter script
22:21.32grennonand it displays a dewdrop menu of contacts
22:22.00grennonfirst time ive messed around with dewdrop, liking it so far
22:22.00stavmarhow do you use the postal functions?
22:22.01PkekyoThorgard: both before and after and all other times as well
22:22.13VanishD'oh!
22:22.27ThorgardPkekyo, I usually set stuff up by class: /bartender3 profile choose Class: Yourcharacter'sclass
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22:22.47grennonstavmar: very few of them are actually useful, theres an internal lib in postal that handles some mail tasks atomically
22:23.05stavmarwhat about mass mailing
22:24.02grennonstavmar: mass mailing is passe, speed mailing is the new hotness
22:24.17stavmarok explain how do i speed mail?
22:24.20grennonstavmar: you just put someones name in the To: field and start alt clicking items
22:24.28grennonstavmar: and off they go
22:24.32stavmarsweet sounds like fun?
22:24.50grennonmakes dumping all the zg crap in my bags to the guild bank easier
22:25.06stavmari hear that
22:25.10PkekyoThorgard: it makes no difference here for some reason
22:25.15grennonbut now i want to take it a step further a generate a window of item links off all the mailable things in my bags
22:25.29ThorgardPkekyo, what does it say the 'profile' is set to?
22:25.32Sarozvhaarr, I had boss set as focus though, but will try now
22:25.36grennonlike mailto next does but a list instead of a big window full of icons
22:25.40vhaarrSaroz: that shouldn't matter
22:25.44Sarozvhaarr, k
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22:26.15andremarwhat quickfishcasting addon are people using theese days?
22:26.20Daemona*grml*
22:26.28Daemonare
22:26.42stavmargrennon: looking forward to that
22:26.50cladhaireIs there anyone here that can reproduce the issue in clique where binds stop working after combat, or however that's been reported?
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22:27.11grennoneventually i want to add a bulkmail frame for nubs, but im hoping speedmailing catches on in the meantime
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22:27.25grennonless widgets and functions, less cpu/mem
22:27.36PkekyoThorgard: atm Class: Warrior
22:28.09Sarozvhaarr, bug 360
22:28.13Sarozusage unitname
22:28.18vhaarrwhat?
22:28.24Sarozline 360
22:28.36ThorgardPkekyo, and if you edit your Bartender3 setup now, switch to another character that's not a Warrior and edit theirs and then switch back it'll have changed the Warrior one?
22:28.58vhaarrSaroz: unitId is nil?
22:29.03PkekyoThorgard: yes, that's basically my entire problem
22:29.05Sarozguess so vhaarr
22:29.20vhaarrSaroz: care to paste the stack?
22:29.42[Ammo]cladhaire: I can, it seems helpful actions nolonger work if the victim is in combat and you are not in combat
22:29.43Sarozcant, dont have debugging tool
22:29.51[Ammo]after a combat switch
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22:29.56[Ammo]if that makes sense
22:30.00vhaarrSaroz: I have to know what the error said, is unitId nil or not?
22:30.15Saroz360: Usage: UnitName("unit")
22:30.20vhaarrwhat the fuck
22:30.41cladhaire[Ammo] Thanks.. I'll try to narrow it down.. that doesn't make sense tho =(
22:30.50[Ammo]yeah well it happens
22:30.51ThorgardPkekyo, try nuking Bartender3.* in your WTF\Account\YourAccount\SavedVariables\ directory and setting them up again. :/
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22:30.56[Ammo]default works all the time though
22:31.01[Ammo]so I swapped all my stuff to default
22:31.05vhaarrSaroz: update
22:31.06CIA-1703rabbit * r24849 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Twins: What the f..
22:31.18vhaarrSaroz: no
22:31.20vhaarrSaroz: my fault
22:31.20PkekyoThorgard: nuking?
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22:31.28ThorgardPkekyo, deleting.
22:31.30Sarozvhaarr, cant reloadui :p combat :)
22:31.39Pkekyoah
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22:31.59Pkekyoif I terminate the WoW process, I won't get ported out of AV, right...?
22:32.05Matrix110hmm wasnt svn to /files 20mins ?
22:32.18dafirePkekyo: you have to log in back fast :9
22:32.20ThorgardPkekyo, not if you're quick about getting back, I don't think.
22:32.20tale_ZealotOnAStick: ("Postal end up as -THE- hands down, absolutely best no-questions mail mod."  Why?  
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22:32.47CIA-1703rabbit * r24850 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Twins: Ah, my fault.
22:32.48vhaarrSaroz: Okay, update again, and try if you can,.
22:33.11cncfanaticshmmm, what did blizz fuck up last patch ? issecurevariable always returns true for me :/
22:33.14tale_Cuz if there's a need for that sort of order in the universe, perhaps I shouldn't bother putting any more effort into Postman.  More time for playing, at lease.
22:33.21Pkekyosweet, don't wanna leave it...just realized I've got just enough honor to soon replace my might sabatons
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22:34.15durcynMatrix110: it's a post-commit hook, shouldn't be anywhere near 20 minutes
22:34.35Arrowmasterits not a post commit hook anymore
22:34.37nymbiadurcyn: no, it's on a cron
22:34.41nadashehe, GroupFu is funny :)
22:34.52nadaslists officer-pets as officers :p
22:34.53vhaarr"funny"?
22:34.56vhaarr:P
22:34.58nadasand our raid leader's imp as leader
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22:35.16durcynoh.  bollocks.  when did that change?
22:35.36Matrix110hmm k ill just wait but i want CorkFU!
22:35.40nadasvhaarr: oh, and for some reason ctrl+click clears rolls instead of outputting them to the chat :)
22:35.48Pkekyodid anyone here see the TBC balance druid video "Vengence"?
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22:35.58vhaarrnadas: No, it clears rolls and outputs the winner.
22:36.01Arrowmasterlike 2.0 when all the server lag fucked up the post commit script and it wasnt including embeds
22:36.02Sarozvhaarr, wipe, hunter multishot etc.. l2p.. testing asap
22:36.05vhaarrnadas: It's 100% expected.
22:36.08vhaarrSaroz: :P
22:36.20nadasvhaarr: hmm, did it 3 times and nothing in chat
22:36.33nadasi swear
22:36.34vhaarrnadas: You're on crack.
22:36.40nadastried again, nothing
22:36.47vhaarrgrmbl
22:36.49vhaarrlet me see
22:37.25grollanyone happen to have a gatherer saved variables with everything? :P
22:37.44vhaarrnadas: Works fine here.
22:37.47Matrix110isnt there a page for that groll?
22:37.53grolldoesnt work any more :(
22:37.56nadasvhaarr: strange
22:38.04grolland i need to convert it to cartographer :p
22:38.32nadasvhaarr: i'll get rid of some mods after this raid and try again
22:38.39nadasmaybe something's interfering
22:38.41vhaarrnadas: Nah.
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22:38.45vhaarrYou're just on crack.
22:38.52vhaarrNothing is interfering.
22:38.57nadasbut i like crack.. :(
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22:39.43durcynshit, sorry
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22:39.52durcynstupid buffers!
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22:41.24PkekyoThorgard it just might've worked...I'll check my alt after some pvp...thanks
22:41.35ThorgardCool.
22:42.03stavmarTekkub: I know you just updated this but I got this error as a warlock looking forward to using CorkFu again http://ace.pastey.net/4974
22:43.24durcynstavmar: you're missing an external.
22:44.06stavmarbabble maybe?
22:45.29nadasvhaarr: hmm, you think i need to have 'Announce' checked in GroupFu settings? ;)
22:45.31stavmardurcyn: i have babble 2.2 in their already?
22:45.38vhaarrnadas: Obviously.
22:45.43nadas:p
22:45.46nadaswant some crack? :)
22:45.51vhaarr^^
22:46.09grolldoes the cartographer addon use the same saved nodes if i got more than one account?
22:46.22JoshBorkeno
22:46.32grolloke copy it then it is
22:46.37CIA-1703rabbit * r24852 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: SW timer/message should be blue.
22:46.49nymbiagroll: no, it's not possible for an addon to see multiple account's savedvars.  copy-paste ;)(
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22:47.10dafirewhat about note sharing by ingame mail :o)
22:47.16grollnow i just need a darn gatherer saved variables bah!
22:47.29grolldafire not enough text i guess :P
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22:47.58dafireis here anybody second live citizen ?
22:48.34HarshmageGroll, I'm sorry, I have to block you again: Gatherer is meant for you, the user, to find the nodes/herbs/chests.  Not someone else.  Sharing data, while useful in some cases, makes the game too easy when hunting specific nodes.
22:48.44durcyngroll: if they're both on and in party or guild, you can have it sync with noteshare.
22:48.50grolli know u say that Harshmage
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22:49.11grolldurcyn yep i know
22:49.29grolli just need my pals to get cartographer :P
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22:52.19SapiensOr you could just use GatherShare, assuming it's been updated.
22:52.25CIA-1703antiarc * r24853 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityItemCache.lua): Sanity2: Drycode commit. Consolidating the bank scanning code in an attempt to eliminate margin for error. Removed what looks to be double-registering of some events from the item cache.
22:52.25grollit hasnt
22:54.18Matrix110oh CorkFu cant buff atm:-(
22:55.01Sarozisnt working vhaarr
22:55.02Sarozat all
22:55.09vhaarrfor gods sake
22:55.12durcynMatrix110:  /click CorkFuFrame ?
22:55.18vhaarrSaroz: What class are you?
22:55.21Sarozpaladin
22:55.26Matrix110durcyn it just puts my pet out then:P
22:55.27vhaarrSaroz: Okay, hrm.
22:55.34SarozI cant tank them
22:55.34Sarozno
22:55.36Matrix110and tells me when iam low on Dura
22:55.44Matrix110but there isnt the pre 2.0 menu for buffs anymore
22:57.20Sarozvhaarr, ok worked there, once .. odd
22:57.31vhaarrSaroz: I think you're going to need the tanks running this version.
22:57.45Sarozwhy, even if I have it targetted
22:57.59SarozIm thinking it's your CheckInteractDistance
22:58.12vhaarrtry removing that locally then
22:58.26Sarozcombat :p
22:58.31Sarozthey need to die now
22:58.40Saroztimer worked there, odd, very odd
22:58.48grennonanyone recommend an easy to read mod that uses a multilevel dewdrop i could look at?
22:58.58vhaarrgrennon: What kind of dewdrop?
22:59.09vhaarrgrennon: Constructed from a AceOptions table or manually?
22:59.16grennonmanually
22:59.31vhaarrNot many mods do that, because it's ugly.
22:59.38vhaarrBut I think SorrenTimers does.
22:59.46vhaarrI remember, because I got a headache from looking at it.
22:59.48grennoni have Guild and Friend entries im my contact list dewdrop, so im trying to populate them now
22:59.53nymbiamanufac does it but its massive, so it may be beyond the scope you want
23:00.16Antiarcgrennon: I have done multi-level dewdrops in Sanity
23:00.25AntiarcIt's a bit to get your head around, but it's pretty easy once you get it.
23:00.54AntiarcI have both AceOptions and manually-built menus in there.
23:00.54grennoni just have two simple arrays i need to add to sublevels
23:00.57Antiarchttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Sanity2/SanityDisplay.lua
23:00.58vhaarrgrennon: Just create a AceOptions table, IMO.
23:01.06AntiarcAceOptions table if it's not dynamic stuff.
23:01.17vhaarrCan use AceOptions even for dynamic stuff.
23:01.23AntiarcYeah, but it's more of a pain ;)
23:01.26vhaarrnah
23:01.30vhaarrI disagree.
23:02.29nymbiai like the aceoptions table method, personally, but it's not versatile enough for what i needed in manufac ;)
23:02.40Matrix110FuBar_CorkFu\ClassMage.lua:5: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Spell-2.0. :-(
23:02.52grennonid think i could just do for loop for GetNumFriends and dewdrop addline for each friend you have
23:03.02AntiarcThat's about the speed of it.
23:03.03grennonthats now simpler than dumping that info into an aceoptions table?
23:03.08grennonnot*
23:03.37AntiarcAceOptions is nearly always simpler
23:03.58AntiarcFor example:
23:04.18AntiarcLet's say you have an array "options", with a group, and under its args, you have "friends"
23:04.48AntiarcYou can build a list {friend1 = {type="execute", name=friendName}, friend2 = ...} and so on and so forth
23:04.53*** join/#wowace break19 (n=break19@adsl-065-013-119-154.sip.mob.bellsouth.net)
23:04.53AntiarcThen assign that to options.friends.args
23:05.35AntiarcOoh, or look at Hemlock
23:05.40AntiarcI build dynamic lists there.
23:05.51grennonalright
23:06.00Antiarchttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Hemlock/Hemlock.lua
23:06.06AntiarcLook at Hemlock:Register()
23:06.18vhaarrLots of addons do that.
23:06.38AntiarcI can only offer examples from code I know :P
23:06.48vhaarrLearn more code.
23:06.49vhaarr:P
23:07.00grennoni just wanted a clean example to learn from, thanks
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23:07.37vhaarrDetox, ClosetGnome, BigWigs, Bartender, and others also have dynamic AceOptions tables.
23:08.19nymbiaGrindStatus has a fairly simple module-based dynamic table, if that's what you're going for
23:08.31vhaarrBigWigs has an advanced one :P
23:08.40nymbia:)
23:08.49AntiarcWhoa!
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23:08.54AntiarcSomeone localized Hemlock to Korean!
23:08.55Antiarc:D
23:08.57AntiarcThat rules.
23:09.03Yinchieor turkish
23:09.13grennoni just have 3 arrays in need in a newdrop, one on the main window, two in subs, nothing fancy
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23:11.03vhaarrWobWork: I hacked up MrPlow a tad a few days ago, btw
23:11.22vhaarrJust cleanup, though.
23:14.18groll2767 / 273 (Kbps)
23:14.18groll(337.7 / 33.3 KB/sec)
23:14.22grollhmm that was bad
23:15.15sylvanaarbigwigs and ora2 are good examples
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23:15.26sylvanaarprat has them now too
23:15.26REV|Xzarhiho
23:15.38REV|Xzaranyone here using drdamage?
23:15.50Sarozvhaarr, down, cant test :p
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23:16.38vhaarr:/
23:17.11kergoth"A startling amount of code has a bus number of one. Your "bus number" is the number of people who have to get hit by a bus until no one is left who understands the code."
23:17.52grollanyone know what this means? "Warning: ISP upload compression was detected. Your upload speeds may be inaccurate."
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23:17.55ckknightlol, kergoth
23:17.56Finhola
23:17.57grollie the compression
23:18.05vhaarrkergoth: haha
23:18.22nymbiarofl kergoth, awesome.
23:18.48kergothpurl: bus number is the number of people who have to get hit by a bus until no one is left who understands the code.  Sadly, this number is usually one.
23:18.50purlkergoth: okay
23:19.04ckknight~bus number
23:19.05purlbus number is, like, the number of people who have to get hit by a bus until no one is left who understands the code.  Sadly, this number is usually one.
23:19.16sylvanaarthats cute
23:19.30Stephmwkergoth: haha... few instances at work that number is 0
23:19.39kergothlol
23:19.42kergothtahts no good
23:19.52ckknightpurl: no, bus number is the number of people who have to get hit by a bus until no one is left who understands a chunk of code.  Sadly, this number is usually one.
23:19.53purlokay, ckknight
23:20.01sylvanaaryou should make it more like - #of people who want to go get hit...
23:20.02ckknightreplaced "the" with "a chunk of"
23:20.05ckknightmakes more sense
23:20.05CrisCr0ssshey guys i got a general question
23:20.12CrisCr0sssis there ne way we can buy prepaid time
23:20.16CrisCr0sssimmediatly
23:20.48CrisCr0sssvia paypal?
23:20.49kergoththat quote was from an article on peer code reviews on cmcrossroads.com
23:20.49kergothgood stuff
23:20.49sylvanaarCrisCr0sss: not immediate
23:20.49CrisCr0ssswhy not
23:20.49sylvanaarCrisCr0sss: but pretty quick
23:20.49CrisCr0sssarent ther those gold sites?
23:20.49OvrLrd-Qthere's sites that sell prepaid cards and they'll email ya the number, that's about the best you can do
23:21.01CrisCr0sssya ne 1 uv guys used?>
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23:21.05kergothheh, i checked a page relating myers briggs personality type to jobs
23:21.06sylvanaari used mmosupplies
23:21.10kergothmine does not correspond to engineer
23:21.14kergothhmm :)
23:21.17CrisCr0ssscuz id un wanna drive to futureshop
23:21.21CrisCr0sssand i do not own a credit card
23:21.31ckknightkergoth: MBTI is a crock of shit.
23:21.43sylvanaarusually takes a few hours
23:21.46CrisCr0sss1-2hours :(
23:21.47CrisCr0sssaww
23:21.48CrisCr0ssssoo long
23:21.48ckknightthey categorize people on the left and right side of a bell curve
23:21.55ckknightit's totally wrong due to that.
23:21.56Stephmwckknight: especially when you know how to bias the result
23:22.07kergothwell, its still almost 100% accurate for me at least :P
23:22.16kergothi'm your typical INTP
23:22.31CrisCr0sss+ its sold out..
23:22.59CrisCr0ssshmmm, any others you guys may know of?
23:23.13sylvanaarget off your ass and go get one
23:23.16CrisCr0ssslol
23:23.32CrisCr0sssthey invtned the internet for a reason :P so i wouldnt have to
23:23.50grennonin the dewdrop docs, it has an example of a test for level == 1 and adding a line accordingly
23:23.58sylvanaarthis problem will take longet to solve via the internet
23:24.05grennonwhere did level get set though, where is it pass from?
23:24.07durcynanyone who spews forth a phrase such as "ya ne 1 uv guys used?>" should be forced out at least one door in his life.
23:24.25durcynmaybe today is your door, friend.
23:24.29vhaarrdurcyn: lol
23:24.35nymbiagrennon: it's an arg passed into your children function
23:24.39vhaarrgrennon: It's passed from dewdrop.
23:24.41grennonahhhhh
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23:24.53sylvanaargrennon: cootie?
23:25.11OvrLrd-Qanybody else get a Error 131 from WoW before?
23:25.15grennonthe lightbulb comes on slowly when ive been oncall for a week
23:26.00kergoth"you have 16 new voice messages"... i really need to check that more often
23:26.03kergothmeh
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23:28.01sylvanaarmine goes up to 99
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23:30.04kergothit needs an "empty my fucking mailbox" menu choice
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23:32.21sylvanaarthe guy who wrote usenet explorer is a major prick
23:32.33ckknighthrm, why?
23:33.42CIA-1703rabbit * r24855 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua:
23:33.42CIA-17MrPlow:
23:33.42CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:33.42CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:34.42sylvanaari was in his beta - then he sent me this nasty (NASTY) email saying that i was a freeloader for not buying i liscense. SO i bought one (i had one for newspro too) Now he sent me an email saying that he has deleted my key
23:34.50vhaarrnymbia: Think I can convert MrPlow to PT3?
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23:35.22vid`sylvanaar: newsleecher is the best
23:35.28sylvanaartime to post my key on the internet
23:35.37vid`coupled with a newzbin.com acct
23:35.38vid`:P
23:35.54CIA-1703progman * r24856 10HealOrganizer3/ (3 files):
23:35.54CIA-17HealOrganizer3:
23:35.54CIA-17- Added code for Group add/delete, labels doesn't shown yet
23:35.55vhaarrcat /home/sylvanaar/secretkey > /dev/internet
23:36.15sylvanaaryeah, i have been using nzb for a couple years
23:36.21sylvanaarmaytbe more
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23:36.49sylvanaarpretty much day0
23:37.15SeRaPhiCahi, is there an ace mod to show castbar apart from aguf?
23:37.40AntiarcCBRipoff does, I believe.
23:38.13SeRaPhiCaok ty
23:38.15Antiarcsylvanaar: Wait, he gave out beta software and then ripped you a new one for not buying a license?!
23:38.30CrisCr0ssshttp://www.gamecard4sale.com/
23:38.33CrisCr0sssdo u think this is afe?
23:38.44Antiarc~googleit
23:38.49grennonso if i tell dewdrop that 'children', foo
23:38.58grennonand i have a function foo(level)
23:39.02KarlThePagan~seen Elkano
23:39.10purlelkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-178.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 53m 10s ago, saying: 'KarlThePagan, won't help... I use it standalone... and QuestFu needs it'.
23:39.10grennonit should be passed to that var?
23:39.20steev~seen progman
23:39.22purli haven't seen 'progman', steev
23:39.30vhaarr~jfgi
23:39.31purl!google just google it
23:39.39vhaarr~seen googlesearch
23:39.42purlgooglesearch <n=pb_ee1@rob92-8-82-242-12-147.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 57s ago, saying: '|Kev|: Thanks ;)'.
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23:39.42Matrix110~seen Googlesearch
23:39.44purlgooglesearch <n=pb_ee1@rob92-8-82-242-12-147.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 59s ago, saying: '|Kev|: Thanks ;)'.
23:39.48Matrix110pingcheater!
23:39.51vhaarr:P
23:39.52ckknightCrisCr0sss: shows up as a spyware site on PeerGuardian for me.
23:40.09sylvanaarAntiarc: yean -i didnt know the beta was ovef
23:40.12sylvanaarover
23:40.21Antiarc...he distributed beta software without a lockout?
23:40.38AntiarcThat makes him a dick AND stupid.
23:40.40sylvanaarit was when i asked for an updated key
23:41.03ckknightCrisCr0sss: it very well could be legit, though.
23:41.12sylvanaarhe sent me an email calling me all sorts of names
23:41.35CrisCr0sssdamn
23:41.36sylvanaarhe could have said "the beta is over please purchase one"
23:41.54AntiarcThat's just uncalled for. Yeesh.
23:42.14CrisCr0ssshas anyone purchased gold in WoW, im sure you have. I just want a trusty site
23:42.33Antiarc"Why yes, now that you have insulted my dignity, my mother, and my dog, I would love to purchase software from you, my fine man!"
23:42.42ckknightdon't purchase gold, CrisCr0sss
23:42.42sylvanaarwhat an idiot you are, i'm truly amazed.
23:42.42sylvanaari checked your contribution and feedback during the testing period, you are
23:42.42sylvanaara total screwed useless piece of shit.
23:42.42sylvanaarjust go to fuck yourself with all being busy with your fucking releases.
23:42.42sylvanaaryou are not allowed to install/run etc. usenet explorer in the future.
23:42.43sylvanaarfucking begging jerk.
23:42.45sylvanaaralex
23:42.54CrisCr0sss@ckknight i dont want gold i want gamecard
23:42.56Antiarc.........
23:43.03AntiarcHoly. Crap.
23:43.14AntiarcI've seen dev hostility, but that's just ridiculous.
23:43.17OvrLrd-Qrofl
23:43.19Matrix110CrisCr0sss why not just Amazon?
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23:43.33ckknightsylvanaar: who is that?
23:43.34sylvanaari still bought a liscense after that
23:43.49sylvanaarthats the developer of usenet explorer
23:43.49CrisCr0sssshould of boot legged it
23:43.56sylvanaaryeah, i should have
23:43.56OvrLrd-Qoh CrisCr0sss, lemme find the site I got mine from
23:44.21CrisCr0sssMatrix110: I want it instantly to my email
23:44.25Matrix110ah ic
23:44.28Matrix110kk
23:44.54grennonreplay back and recommend he buy http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0671723650/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-4274330-9695026#reader-link
23:44.54sylvanaarso after that i bought a liscense...now a year later,,,i get an email saying hes canceled my "free" liscense
23:44.56|Kev|well, it's an advantage of oss software, at least you know what you're getting into
23:45.02AntiarcI wonder how well-toasted I would be if I were to jokingly add a little PayPal button to one of my mods that you could click to send me gold, provided you were on my server.
23:45.02OvrLrd-QCrisCr0sss: well you're not going to get it instantly 99.9% of all the sites will call you the first time
23:45.25ckknightsylvanaar: what did you beg for?
23:45.48CrisCr0sssbut their still quick i assume
23:45.50OvrLrd-QCrisCr0sss: https://gamersloot.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1414
23:45.52OvrLrd-Qbought a couple of CD keys from them before
23:45.56Wogroiplcan someone tell me what this means? http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/Luqu/Bugs.jpg
23:46.04nymbiavhaarr: yeah
23:46.05Wogroiplcheck the amount in Bugsack also
23:46.11sylvanaarckknight: i didnt know the beta was over, so i sent him an email asking for an updated key cause mine wasnt working
23:46.27ckknightsylvanaar: oh
23:46.34ckknightI just ignore users that bother me
23:46.51ckknightgranted, ones that are helpful/courteous/etc, I'll try to be helpful to
23:47.08CrisCr0ssswow isnt 21 euros alot
23:47.16CrisCr0sssusually there 19.99 USD
23:47.17|Kev|we have a policy of not ignoring anyone unless they're actively disruptive
23:47.31|Kev|but it's a hell of a nuisance sometimes
23:47.35grennonalright, so passing the level number in dewdrop, does this code snippet look right: http://ace.pastey.net/4980
23:47.35OvrLrd-Qfor 60 days?
23:47.37ckknightCrisCr0sss: I thought 30.
23:47.48CrisCr0sss60 Days Prepaid Gametime Card(approx. 21 euros)
23:47.51CrisCr0sssaccording to the site
23:47.52grennonits a snippet, not the whole thing
23:47.57CrisCr0sssya yes sorry 30*
23:48.00CrisCr0ssswait is it..
23:48.02OvrLrd-Qit comes out to $27.75 usd
23:48.07grennonjust the children attribute and a function declaration from later in the source
23:48.14CrisCr0ssso ya it is
23:48.14OvrLrd-Qerr 27.95 when you add it to your cart
23:48.16AntiarcWill an EU gamecard work with a US account?
23:48.16vid`google 21 eur to usd
23:48.17vid`:P
23:48.21AntiarcMight want to consider that.
23:48.23|Kev|Antiarc: almost certain not
23:48.30|Kev|+I'm
23:48.36CrisCr0sssit says US
23:48.37art3mishttp://www.gwn.com/articles/article.php/id/850/title/PlayStation_3_Supply_Surpasses_Demand.html
23:48.39CrisCr0sssso im sure it wrks
23:48.53CrisCr0sssGametime card allows you to continue playing for 60 days.An existing World of Warcraft US account is required to use a gametime card.
23:48.55CrisCr0sssyepp
23:49.01ThorgardMy one and only BugSack error now is "[2007/01/12 17:48:33-57-x1]: cyCircled-0.2\core.lua:237: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)"
23:49.03ckknightlol, art3mis
23:49.22CrisCr0sssdid neone see the IPhone
23:49.25CrisCr0sss<3
23:49.26|Kev|yes
23:49.29OvrLrd-Qps3 too damn expensive
23:49.30AntiarcWTB transmute PS3 to Wii, PST
23:49.59|Kev|<3 right up until the $500 bit
23:49.59CrisCr0sssWii isnt that good
23:49.59|Kev|it really is
23:49.59TainI'll wait a year before I even think about the iPhone.
23:49.59TainWii rules.
23:49.59OvrLrd-Qlike all apple products
23:49.59OvrLrd-Qthe first 2 generations of the iPhone will suck major ass
23:50.04dafireiPhone is a cisco product name.. what is apple thinking ?
23:50.12Antiarc"Think Lawsuit."
23:50.13CrisCr0sssya cisco sued apple
23:50.20*** join/#wowace nee-lap (n=naenee@a62-251-64-42.adsl.xs4all.nl)
23:50.22TainJobs already said they won't allow un-sanctioned apps to run on it, which sucks.
23:50.22CrisCr0ssslawsuit alrdy emplaced
23:50.30AntiarcThey're only allowing "small widgets"
23:50.34AntiarcWhich is a real downer
23:50.42TainJust another phone to unlock.
23:50.43sylvanaarsounds like verizon
23:50.44AntiarcI want a really programmable pocket comms device.
23:50.44CrisCr0ssshttp://digg.com/apple/Cisco_Sues_Apple_Over_IPhone
23:51.07CrisCr0sssi must admit its a pretty stupid move by apple
23:51.16StephmwAntiarc: wait for the Openmoko device then
23:51.17TainNo not really.
23:51.22sylvanaarverizon got sued over the phone i have
23:51.23CrisCr0sssthen again didnt they want to trademark the "Ixxx"
23:51.23Harshmageas I understand it, Cisco's iPhone is a VOIP system.
23:51.25steevStephmw: mmm, i want one of those
23:51.30ThorgardCrisCr0sss, last I heard Cisco was okay with it? :o
23:51.38Stephmwsteev: release delayed until Feb alas
23:51.40TainCisco's IPhone isn't a mobile phone.  It's a VOIP thingy.
23:51.55CrisCr0sssbut its not a product issue its more of a branding issue i assume
23:52.08TainCisco and Apple have been in talks over the name, but they didn't work it out and Apple said the hell with it and went ahead.
23:52.15NayonBeta Servers were just Shut down :(
23:52.19Antiarc:(
23:52.22Matrix110awwww
23:52.24OvrLrd-Qyea
23:52.29CrisCr0sssThorgard: this is jan 10t that the press release was issued
23:52.31HarshmageD:
23:52.37CrisCr0sssMSNBC link > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16566514/
23:52.41StephmwTain: trademark laws also dictate that Cisco had to sue immediatly
23:52.42ThorgardNuts.
23:52.57sylvanaaryep
23:52.59StephmwTain: defend it or lose it, as it goes
23:53.00CrisCr0sssBC comes tomoro?
23:53.01OvrLrd-Qrofl
23:53.06AntiarcTuesday, CrisCr0sss
23:53.09OvrLrd-Qon /. "THe Pirate Bay to buy Sealand"
23:53.12Nayonthe 16th
23:53.29CrisCr0ssshas ne 1 bought it..
23:53.34ckknightOvrLrd-Q: not going to happen, it's 1b USD for a non-recognized microcountry
23:53.41Matrix110Sealand wasnt this this small island?
23:53.43sylvanaaryeah, they are holding shipping on it
23:53.43NayonBut Shatra city has been in ruins under Doom Machines and Emeris and Lethon all day
23:53.56CrisCr0sssif Blizz was smart they would make it a online download (optinal) and email you keys u purchase
23:54.05CrisCr0sssextra if you want it shipped
23:54.09sylvanaarCrisCr0sss: they are smart
23:54.12Matrix110CrisCr0sss Blizzard would like to do that i think but not Vivendi:P
23:54.15AntiarcVivendi likely has distribution contracts with various retailers.
23:54.22OvrLrd-Qhuh
23:54.35CrisCr0sssbut that makes stock an issue
23:54.41CrisCr0sssnow not everyone will have BC
23:54.42OvrLrd-Qapparently the Apple Phone wont work with cingulars 3G network
23:54.44sylvanaarexactly
23:54.49|Kev|CrisCr0sss: that may be deliberate
23:54.52|Kev|it was for WoW
23:54.57CrisCr0ssshype..
23:55.02|Kev|server load
23:55.06CrisCr0sssah
23:55.12HarshmageAnd the other point is, that's gonna be a ton of downloading.  Which will end up as a BitTorrent system, like the patches.
23:55.20TainWhich is fine.
23:55.22sylvanaarits not load this time
23:55.24AntiarcSlightly under-delivering on your demand can be a wonderful thing for marketing.
23:55.43AntiarcIt just makes people want it MORE because so many other people do.
23:55.45TainNah, under-estimating demand is better for you than overestimating.
23:55.49CrisCr0sswell it depends on how long before they saturate the market with overstock
23:55.50Harshmageand BT systems can cause havoc with systems, and if you're behind a firewall, you're screwed.
23:55.54sylvanaarthis time is so that they have more time to fix stuff
23:56.06TainProvide too much and it doesn't sell and you're out money.  PRovide too little and you can make more.
23:56.08grollhow do i use the cartographer stats? i dont see any :P
23:56.12CrisCr0sswhen will second shipment be sent
23:56.16AntiarcYou can still BT with other clients that aren't firewalled.
23:56.35AntiarcThe BT problem comes in when you have two firewalled peers and aren't doing any kind of UDP port punching.
23:56.47CrisCr0ssi use bt for illegitimate(sp?) means
23:56.54AntiarcI never would have guessed.
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23:57.57Matrix110i would like to get me shipping mail from Amazon tomorrow!
23:58.16SkorcherXany one actually gonna buy an apple iPhone?
23:58.26SkorcherXanyone as in.. in this chan
23:58.28HarshmageMe
23:58.37SkorcherXyeah?
23:58.39HarshmageI'm an apple whore
23:58.39SkorcherXwhy?
23:58.41SkorcherXhahah
23:58.42|Kev|I think it likely that I will, but not for several years
23:58.54Matrix110i dont like apple but the phone is nice i have to admit
23:58.55sylvanaarid kinda like to do the midnight will-call at gamestop
23:58.59SkorcherXsee i think im gonna hold out for another brand to make a competitive produt
23:59.31|Kev|SkorcherX: they haven't so far in the past many years of smartphones, so I'm not holding my breath
23:59.34SkorcherXi cant stand ipods... granted i hear they are managable with 3rd party software not iTunes, but frankly they really arnt all they are cracked up to be

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