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00:03.45sylvanaar[07 16:46] <CIA-17> sylvanaar * r23956 Prat/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: Fix perframe strings
00:04.28sylvanaarZealotOnAStick: i fixed it like 2 minutes after you meantioned it
00:04.55nymbiathat's what they all say!!
00:05.16sylvanaarnymbia: heretic!
00:05.20nymbia;)
00:06.46sylvanaarnymbia: so does the iw.i.n button still work?
00:06.50sylvanaarlol
00:06.56nymbiahavent checked ;)
00:07.07sylvanaarits hardcoded into url_copy
00:07.11kebinusanhmm chatcopy in prat is kinda weird, additional chat frames show chatcopy from chatframe 1
00:07.51sylvanaar[07 13:37] <CIA-17> sylvanaar * r23934 Prat/modules/CopyChat.lua: Prat: Changed target of copy chat buttons action to the parent frame, and cleaned up hide/show code
00:08.05kebinusanhmm, bleh I take that back, only one of my frames seems to do that
00:08.17kebinusanah
00:08.23kebinusanguess I should update
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00:08.40sylvanaari fixed everything i have heard about i think
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00:13.04CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r23966 10DKPmon/DKPmon/Looting/lootframe.lua: DKPmon: v2.0 -- Fix text wrapping on loot frame.
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00:14.15Arjorguys how do you set your focus frame ?
00:14.51beerke<PROTECTED>
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00:15.08break19hey sylvanaar: can prat move the chat window tabs?
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00:16.34Arjorbeerke and how to disable ?
00:19.03beerkeslect no tareget and /focus
00:19.42Arrowmastersylvanaar: the problem i was having with the timestamps was that it wasnt working with SCL and a few other things
00:20.40CIA-1703sylvanaar * r23967 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Removed the guards against combat log messages being handled by prat. They were added when trying to locate the cause of PAB tainting
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00:21.12sylvanaarbreak19: move them? no
00:21.38sylvanaarArrowmaster: see the commit i just made for a fix
00:22.01break19dang - I have a chat window on the right side of my screen.. and I want the top tab to be on the right side of the screen as well.. it keeps getting right clicked when i try to loot lol
00:22.58Eternally777I just finished a 5 lb. bag of Gummy Bears :-(
00:23.07sylvanaartry moveanything break19
00:23.10Arrowmasteryeah i see, updating now
00:23.48Arrowmasteralso im not sure but i think when somebody changed our GMOTD it didnt have a timestamp infront of it, would that be caused by what you just fixed
00:23.52break19sylvanaar: uhm. ok.. i thought that was for moving whole frames tho..
00:24.13sylvanaarbreak19: it is a frame
00:24.17sylvanaarArrowmaster: yeah
00:24.53break19sylvanaar: then you arent catching what I'm talking about I think.. you know on the default chat window.. the little tab that pops up and says General.. I want it on the other side of the chat frame
00:25.10Arrowmasteroh also i have FontSize disabled but it still seems to 'work'
00:25.30sylvanaarreloadui
00:28.21Arrowmasterjust updated and reloaded, still not working with SCL
00:33.54CIA-1703sylvanaar * r23968 10Prat/modules/CopyChat.lua: Prat: fix for Issue 7: error toggling CopyChat module
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00:39.11grennontrying to lua code a bulkmail window makes me appreciate bulkmail/acegui
00:39.47CIA-1703sylvanaar * r23969 10Prat/modules/ChatLog.lua: Prat: fixed Issue 11: chatlog.lua:95
00:41.07sylvanaarit may not be compatible with that mod now
00:42.43sergiodoes anyone remember what font the yaABF used in aguf? I sorta miss it
00:43.01sergiooh wait it's still in the package
00:43.03sergionevermind
00:43.37Gnarfozsylvanaar: you keep coding so much, it's hard to keep up with the most current version ;>
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00:46.20sylvanaarGnarfoz: im fixing bugs off the tracker sorry
00:46.42Gnarfozthat was supposed to be praise :P
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00:51.33EyeOfHellHello. Is it any way to set scroll frame to specified position within scroll? I have tried FauxScrollFrame_SetOffset, but seems it doesn't move slider ;(. Any hints ?
00:52.31CIA-1703sayclub * r23970 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-koKR.lua: Click2Cast - Update locals koKR
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00:53.03beerkei set it iwth setpoint/setwidth/setheight
00:53.29EyeOfHellare you using faux scrollframe or just scrollframe ?
00:53.33beerkeFau
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00:54.30EyeOfHellseems like a hack ;(. Is it any 'documented' way to control it ? ;)
00:55.50Ominousis there an addon that susessfully hooks to bartender button clicks which i can look at to see how its done?
00:56.25CIA-1703fleetfoot 07v3 * r23971 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua:
00:56.26CIA-17BigTrouble:
00:56.26CIA-17- Temp. removed support for showing Aimed, Steady shots.
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00:57.44Goebomni- clique does...
00:57.55Goebomni- ignore me ;)
00:57.55beerkeEyeOfHell, http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016180/FrameXML/UIPanelTemplates.xml
01:00.55CIA-1703neriak * r23972 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_Search.lua):
01:00.55CIA-17Fence:
01:00.55CIA-17- fixed typo
01:01.16Ominousanyone else have any ideas that i shouldnt ignore :D
01:01.48EyeOfHellbeerke: i have looked through this sources, no hints ;(
01:02.07EyeOfHellMaybe i need to use slider instead of scrollbar ?
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01:07.45Arrowmasterwhy do you want to hook bartender button clicks?
01:11.31beerkeFor the slider to work
01:11.44beerkeYou need to set a topleft point and width+height
01:11.54beerkeor a topleft anchor and a bottomright anchor
01:12.52vinaurOminous, if you're still around frameScrollBar:SetValue(scrollPercent) works fine
01:13.09vinaurOminous, as far as i can tell. tested it with friends list
01:13.17Ominouswhat?
01:13.44sergiodo any of you hunter authors use fubar_ttracker? is there anything better
01:13.50Neriakman, AceDB keeps fucking me :( It always creates FenceDB = nil in SV ..
01:13.52vinaurOminous, SetValue() moves the slider to specified position
01:14.05Ominousi didnt ask about moving a slider?
01:14.19vinauroops
01:14.22vinaurmy bad
01:14.23Ominous:)
01:14.24vinaurlol
01:14.27EyeOfHellbeerke: hmm, anchors... it's an idea!
01:14.34vinaureyeofhell did
01:14.42vinaurwell, there it is anyway
01:14.55ArrowmasterOminous: why are you wanting to hook just bartender button clicks?
01:15.51Ominousso i can make something similar to ex otravi for equipping my poisons but from my bartender bars
01:15.52vinaurEyeOfHell, was that what you were looking for?
01:16.16hasteOminous: wouldn't it be a lot easier to just add a new frame above one of the existing buttons?
01:16.37Ominous?
01:17.23hasteI have no other way of explaining it ;(
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01:17.47EyeOfHellvinaur: i'm changing code right now to see it...
01:17.51CIA-1703ag * r23973 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
01:17.51CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
01:17.51CIA-17<PROTECTED>
01:18.17Ominoushaste: a new frame to do what?
01:18.23hastehandle the clicks
01:18.55hastehooking can backfire in the future :)
01:19.12EyeOfHellvinaur: I have set anchors, but FauxScrollFrame_SetOffset still don't move scroll thumb ;((
01:19.14break19someone tell me what FSR means? :)
01:19.30Ominousoh i see but, how would you make it always be above the button with the poisons in?
01:19.40vhaarrbreak19: Five Second Rule.
01:19.55vinaurEyeOfHell, I was suggesting frameScrollBar:SetValue(ScrollPercent)
01:19.56break19ah.. so.. what is it? :p
01:20.03hasteOminous: :SetAllPoints, SetFrameLevel and SetTexture?
01:20.04vhaarrbreak19: google?
01:20.16break19i can tell ya what it means in *my* house lol
01:20.57Ominoushaste: do you mean put another frame ontop of the bartender frame?
01:21.22Ominousand if so how can you find out which button to attach it to without having to manually set it
01:21.45vhaarrbreak19: http://www.wowwiki.com/Five_second_rule - now you know where to look in the future.
01:22.06EyeOfHellvinaur, i'm using faux scrollbar. Must i call SetValue() from faux scrolbar or from spcific frame inside it ?
01:22.45hasteOminous: you can probably use the drag trick from VisorGUI, fetch GetMouseFocus() on MouseUp
01:22.47vinaurEyeOfHell, you're using just the scrollbar? or a scrollframe that inherits from FauxScrollFrame?
01:23.21hasteOminous: then again, you might get some problems with stances and so on. I'm not familiar with how that is handled
01:23.53EyeOfHellvinaur: Kinda like this: CreateFrame('ScrollFrame', "$parentScroll", self.m_oPaneBtn, 'FauxScrollFrameTemplate');
01:25.01break19vhaarr: tnx
01:25.40vinaurEyeOfHell, you should be able to call that from anywhere. as long as you use the right frame name. so like yourscrollnameScrollBar:SetValue()
01:26.07EyeOfHellvinaur: one second, i will check
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01:28.48vinaurEyeOfHell, $parentScrollScrollBar:SetValue()....replace $parent with the actual parent frame name. or use this.GetParent() to get the name if you are calling the function from the scroll frame itself
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01:30.46EyeOfHellvinaur: done, but no success. Thumb is stuck in place ;((
01:30.49CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r23974 10DKPmon/DKPmon/Looting/lootframe.lua: DKPmon: v2.0 -- Added announce on open bidding.
01:31.33vinaurcan you try it on like a friends list? /script FriendsFrameFriendsScrollFrameScrollBar:SetValue(50) should bring you to the middle of the list
01:32.02vinaurEyeOfHell, just to make sure i'm not making this up...
01:33.38EyeOfHellvinaur: i will check. Maybe it's some error in my code. brb.
01:34.23vinaurif an addon enters an infinite loop, will wow stop its execution?
01:34.51EyeOfHellvinaur : yes
01:35.14vinaur:-( how did I make wow freeze then with my addon?
01:35.30CIA-1703neriak * r23975 10Fence/Core.lua:
01:35.30CIA-17Fence:
01:35.30CIA-17- fixed database error
01:35.34Nargiddleyinfinate loop will freeze wow
01:35.43vinaurok
01:35.50vinaurgood, i guess
01:36.03vinaurEyeOfHell, the scroll thing worked?
01:36.29todd`occasionally my combat log disappears, and I'm told it's a common problem and it may be Blizzard's fault
01:36.32todd`is there any way to prevent it
01:36.38todd`or automatically reenable the combat log?
01:36.39break19|Kev|: if you're lurking, I added an issue to MAU.. just an fyi :)
01:37.03Nargiddleytodd`, try unchecking auto join guid recruitment channel in interface options
01:38.15EyeOfHellvinaur: kinda like. It seems it works not in faux's 'min'/'max', but on some different range. Having list of 30 elements i must set SetPoint(150) in order to get middle
01:38.25todd`ok, I have that unchecked and have restarted wow, how do I get my combat log back?
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01:39.20Nargiddleyhad you customized it much ?
01:39.28Neriaknn, guys
01:39.36Nargiddleyenabling simple chat will get it back but lose any chat settings
01:39.47Solehihi
01:39.51vinaurEyeOfHell, ok, so then it's not percent..
01:40.03EyeOfHellvinaur: I can suggest it's some portion of GetHeight()
01:40.04vinaurEyeOfHell, i was just assuming, since 100 put me at the end on my list
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01:40.16Sole~seen Elkano
01:40.37purlelkano <n=elkano@p54A50A71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 5h 11m 44s ago, saying: 'nope, ElkBuffBars (note the s at the end) was never working :P'.
01:40.37vinaurEyeOfHell, i'll go check the code for it
01:41.05Nargiddleyor you can exit wow then edit the chat-cache.txt for the char, find the WINDOW 2 section and change SHOWN 0 to SHOWN 1
01:44.04CIA-1703laotseu * r23976 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua: AllPlayed: fix a problem where is_rested was not updated realtime for the current PC
01:44.10vinaurEyeOfHell, so the scroll bar in faux is just a slider and has all the same functions as the slider...very limited documentation about them on wowwiki though. but there are functions for setvaluestep, which is what will determine how much it scrolls i assume
01:44.13vinaurEyeOfHell, http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#Slider
01:45.06EyeOfHellvinaur: yep. It seems that faux does magix by this code: this.offset = floor((arg1 / itemHeight) + 0.5);
01:45.35EyeOfHellvinaur: so i suggest that i can just do backward formula and use SetValue. Thanks a lot for help!
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01:46.05CIA-1703quetz * r23977 10FelwoodFarmer/ (FelwoodFarmer.lua FelwoodFarmer.toc localisation.enUS.lua):
01:46.05CIA-17FelwoodFarmer:
01:46.05CIA-17- Added bar customizing slash commands
01:46.05CIA-17- New Locals added
01:46.10vinaurthat, or you could use getvaluestep function
01:46.48CIA-1703quetz * r23978 10FelwoodFarmer/Textures/ (8 files):
01:46.48CIA-17FelwoodFarmer:
01:46.48CIA-17- Bar textures added
01:47.10vinaurEyeOfHell, I haven't tested it yet (froze my wow again) but i think the value step is what value you need to put in for it to scroll one offset
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01:48.15EyeOfHellvinaur : same thought just hit me ;). In all example they put step = button height in pixels... But it may be wrong ;))
01:48.47CIA-1703quetz * r23979 10FelwoodFarmer/: FelwoodFarmer: Fixed externals
01:49.23vinaurEyeOfHell, i'll test it in a few minutes....my realm is full *sigh*. I better find that bug fast, or i'll be stuck for a while
01:52.49Curneyi want to merge fontsize and justify into a module called "formatting" or something.  maybe "textformat"
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01:53.02Curneyoops lol
01:54.28EyeOfHellvinaur: setting valueStep to 1 works like magic ;)
01:54.51EyeOfHellvinaur: now i can correctly focus on last added item and scroll list! Thanks a lot, your help was invaluable ^_^
01:55.07EyeOfHell(hope i correctly write this word. English is not my native -_-)
01:55.20vinaurEyeOfHell, i think i figured it out
01:55.24vinaurEyeOfHell, sorta
01:55.41vinaurEyeOfHell, the step value is lke hight of element as you predicted
01:55.54EyeOfHellvinaur: i'm new to WoW add-on scripting, so sometimes i stuck really hard ;)
01:56.15vinaurEyeOfHell, the thing is when you set value it looks at the value and checks if you have scrolled past the middle of the elements and then jumps
01:56.54EyeOfHellvinaur: yep. it's kinda like for 'smooth scroll' (c). But this 'smooth scroll' makes it difficult to programmatically position scrollbar, since faux itself doesn't have SetPoint() that will work with 'heighted' offsets ;)
01:57.00vinaurso if the value step is 34 (friends frame) and you set the value to 16, it will not jump, since that's less than half
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01:57.28Tricksta_CKK!
01:57.35ckknightwhat?
01:57.39Tricksta_heh
01:57.44KaeltenCKK!!!!!!
01:57.45Tricksta_Just happy to see you online
01:58.00CIA-1703beerke * r23980 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua:
01:58.00CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0 :
01:58.00CIA-17Food - Fish 12238:243 Darkshore Grouper
01:58.00CIA-17Food - Fish Raw 13890 Plated Armorfish
01:58.04ckknightI'm typically online.
01:58.06Tricksta_So I can annoy you and ask why adding a waypoint function in Carto is taking so long ....whine
01:58.29Tricksta_Its the only reason I am still using silly ass mapnotes
01:58.37Tricksta_and I wanna use carto!
01:58.49Tricksta_*whine* ...cheese .....
01:59.43CIA-1703ricowan * r23981 10FuBar_PetFu/PetFu.lua: FuBar_PetFu: - changed "Foods liked" to "Diet"
02:00.19Tricksta_Example: Look up a tloc on thottbot, make the note. Open main map, and right click on icon you made, and set it as a waypoint that you can follow via the mini map
02:00.19CIA-1703ricowan * r23982 10FuBar_PetFu/FuBar_PetFu.toc: FuBar_PetFu: - updated TOC
02:00.55vinauris it just me or is there no link to the addons section from curse-gaming's main page?
02:01.11Tricksta_I will verify
02:01.11cronoThere isn't.
02:01.17cronoIt's a horrible design.
02:01.32vinaurok, and i thought i was blind...
02:01.38vinaurthank god for google
02:01.38syerenCurse seem to be under the impression that people visit their site for more than the addons section...
02:01.46Kaeltenvinaur: its on the wow section
02:01.51Kaeltenwow.curse-gaming.com
02:01.56Tricksta_looks fine to me
02:02.00Tricksta_the addons section
02:02.01syerenWhich isn't there Home Page Kael :P
02:02.03JoshBorkeKaelten: gief Combine!
02:02.12syeren*their
02:02.29Kaeltensyeren: nope, c-g is moving to a multi purpose portal, not just an addon site.
02:02.33KaeltenJosh_Borke: :P
02:03.09Tricksta_$@#%@#$%%!
02:03.14Gngskindeed
02:03.21syerenNo one gives a shit about Curse for more than their addons though Kael...
02:03.22Tricksta_Oh well when you have time Ckk, thanks again for all your hard work
02:03.22vinaurok, i see the link now...way down on the bottom
02:03.27JoshBorke:P gief us everything we want! NOW! :P
02:03.44ckknightTricksta_: because I'm busy working on Python stuff
02:03.45TainThere's more money in portals, more audience, more click-ads.
02:03.53syerenIf I want infomation on an MMORPG or something, I will go to the Developers site or go see what people on FOH are bitching about it for ;p
02:04.37Kaelten:P
02:04.55Arrowmasterwhat is the latest FOH bitch?
02:05.13syerenWSG exploits.
02:05.16syerenAnd Vanguard :p
02:05.49TainThankfully no one cares about PVP!
02:06.16Arrowmasterbleh vanguard
02:06.38Fisker-~seen kodewulf
02:06.54purlkodewulf <n=kodewulf@220-253-56-64.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 11h 6m 52s ago, saying: 'kagaro: thank you. also you could email me a SV file at kodewulf@gmail.com then i can start building a default dataset...'.
02:07.32TainDon't do it, EyeOfHell!  
02:07.45TainStarting down that path is like unto starting into the eyes of madness!
02:08.12vinaurisn't that sorta impossible now with the CastSpell() being disabled?
02:08.53vhaarrTain: Blizzard broke my keybinding setup with 2.0, and I'm not sure if it's even possible now. I only use 1-9 and 0 as action bar bindings, and use Shift+1-6 to swap those bindings to action bar 1-6 .. Is that even possible now?
02:09.07EyeOfHellYeah, i know ^_^. But it will be so fun to have ALL used button in handy on-screen keyboard and to have ability to put action in any form, stance, ctrl-alt-whatever modifier...
02:09.43EyeOfHellI have checked the possibility, all is ok as long as actions are not changed during combat
02:11.10TainI don't even know for sure what's possible now, vhaarr.  Some of the stuff is just frustrating to look at.  Honestly I gave up trying to figure it out and changed my play style around what Bartender3 could do.
02:11.31vhaarrTain: Indeed, that's what I'm leaning towards.
02:11.39vhaarrbut it makes me a sad panda
02:11.49TainYeah I know.  
02:11.56vhaarrTain: I managed to make an addon that does it, but of course, it doesn't work in combat.
02:12.00vhaarrso ..
02:12.00EyeOfHellI have tried bartender, but it's really hard to play with half-a-hand after year of comfort play with both hands ;)
02:12.02vhaarr:P
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02:12.29vhaarrnevcairiel: Got any ideas?
02:12.45CIA-1703beerke * r23983 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua:
02:12.45CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0
02:12.45CIA-17Deeprun Rat Kabob (17119:243) moved from Food - Meat Raw to Food - Meat
02:13.03BarbanusEyeOfHell, 1/2 a hand?
02:13.12EyeOfHellBy the way, is it any event that occus on game exit, so my add-on can save options? Or must i update corresponding table runtime ?
02:13.25beerke./console reloadui
02:13.29EyeOfHellBarbanus: playing druid, bartender is not a handy tool to use ;(
02:13.55BarbanusEyeOfHell, huh? works great for my druid.
02:14.37TainOh... druids.  No one cares about druids!
02:14.44EyeOfHellsure ;)
02:14.48Barbanuswhat doesnt work about it with druids?
02:15.07mjcstealth bar isn't working quite right for me atm
02:15.10Arrowmastersooo bored, doing chapter 1 review questions for concepts of database management, somebody kill me now
02:15.15Barbanus4 nice macros for each of my stance swapping, and I am golden
02:15.33EyeOfHellBaraius - i can't assign slots for all 'POSSIBLE' to use buttons in ALL stances, since bartender tends to limit number of BUTTONS by 120 ;(
02:16.11mjcEyeOfHell: use autobar for potions and stuff, then use grid & click2cast for healing'
02:16.22BarbanusYou use 120 abilities on your druid? wow...
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02:17.01EyeOfHellBaraius: not 120 abilities. But i prefer to have all buttons i CAN potitionally use to be mapped. So i can play with putting different abilities in different button.
02:17.34mjcEyeOfHell: even though I change spec about every 3 weeks I only use about 20 buttons
02:17.51mjcEyeOfHell: I use click2cast to root/sleep too
02:18.05EyeOfHellmjc: agreed ;)
02:18.28EyeOfHellBy the way, is it any event that occus on game exit, so my add-on can save options? Or must i update corresponding table runtime ?
02:18.42grennonthe best reason for not attacking the bulkmail frame to the actual mail interface is not having to use the blizzard Tab system
02:18.51grennons/attaching/attacking/
02:18.56mjcEyeOfHell: SavedVariables in your toc
02:19.19mjcgrennon: you mean s/attacking/attaching/
02:19.25Fisker-btw Benumbed did you read the bad news earlier? :(
02:19.30EyeOfHellmjc: am i doomed to update it run-time, or is it any 'on exit' event i can handle to carefully store dynamic data in it ?
02:19.55mjcEyeOfHell: put a variable in SavedVariables in your .toc, and it will be saved
02:19.56JoshBorkePLAYER_LOGOUT
02:21.51grennonmjc: thats what working with the blizzard tab system does to me
02:22.34CIA-1703aliset * r23984 10SendSelf/ (Makefile sendself.toc): SendSelf: whoops! Didn't include the main file in the release! 1.1.1
02:22.51mjcmakefile ?
02:22.55mjcwhy a makefile
02:22.56mjclol
02:22.59EyeOfHellmjc - actual run-time data is a bit heavy and contains lot of exceed information, i'm not sure it will be wise to put it ALL in saved variables ;). I can suggest it will be good to save only data really needed to be saved ?
02:23.16mjcEyeOfHell: use a separate variable then
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02:25.11grennonhttp://ace.pastey.net/4705 is the current bane of my existence, i actually send a nil value for a tab somewhere and get an error from the inherited uipaneltemplate
02:26.19EyeOfHellMailFrameTab3 = CreateFrame("Button", nil, MailFrame, "FriendsFrameTabTemplate")  ?
02:26.51EyeOfHelli'm newb, but as far as i know, Blizzard API doesn't like frames without name?
02:28.23TainYou can create frames without a name, it just depends on the purpose.
02:29.42EyeOfHellTain - yes, CreateFrame() will not return error. At last in most cases. But using this frame, or creating frame that is inherited may cause errors later
02:33.20TainWell yeah if you need to access the same frame later you do want to name it, but there are actually a lot of cases where you don't have to, which is why it lets you do that and not name it.
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02:33.32grennonin this case i needed to
02:33.38JoshBorkeblizzard's code doesn't work well with nameless frames
02:34.15grennonhttp://ace.pastey.net/4708 made it work
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02:49.06BarbanusAnyone know a mod that allows you to pre-set groups for a premade BG group, and when you join it will set up those groups the same every time?
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02:51.06nymbiaBarbanus: i know i've seen one around, but i dont recall where
02:51.39syerenRaid Restore?
02:51.42BarbanusI'll take a look, thought I would ask unless someone knew it off the top of their head
02:51.43vinaurdoes assigning a table to do a shallow or a deep copy?
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02:52.32nymbiavinaur: reference. if you want a copy you need to explicitly copy each element
02:52.56vinaurk, thanks
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02:53.37ag`oh snap
02:53.39Fisker-oh snap
02:53.45ag`I was modded down on the forums today
02:53.51ag`so now my score is -2
02:53.57Kaelten-Laptop:(
02:53.57nymbiaouch
02:53.59Fisker-:(
02:54.04ag`It's probably because I had an error on the SVN in aguf
02:54.20Fisker-bastard you
02:54.21ag`yeah those pesky developers should only have release quality on the SVN :D
02:54.43nymbiaseriously.  they taught you.
02:54.55ag`yeah I know man, I got played
02:55.52JoshBorkelol ag`
02:56.08ag`How about a system where you get a point each week
02:56.26ag`and you can use that point to mod up or down
02:56.36ag`and your total can't go lower than zero
02:57.04ag`it's pretty hard to abuse a point a week
02:57.26ag`I dunno, with the current system you can just spam
02:57.35Fisker-just remove it imo
02:57.49Fisker-all karma systems suck, eod
03:00.56Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62151439&sid=1 <-n00bs
03:02.07Fisker-whatever could he mean by "the servers is down at 9th january"?
03:02.37nymbialol
03:07.43CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r23985 10DKPmon/ (10 files in 9 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 - Updated all toc files with new web site url.
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03:08.56Tricksta_Hey does anyone know a site that has an old Gatherer database? I found one that has data in .TSV format, but you cant import that into Carto can you?
03:09.32Andunewhat can you import to cartographer?  I'd love to bring in all my metamap notes..
03:10.01AnduneOnly thing I'm aware of is a Cartographer import for Gatherer directly.  Never gotten it to work, tho.  :/
03:10.01Tricksta_I do not know, the import module does not say much
03:10.17Tricksta_hmmmmm
03:10.29nymbiathere's a database of herb/mining nodes on one of the cartographer threads
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03:10.42Tricksta_Yeah?
03:10.47Tricksta_I also found this
03:10.58Tricksta_http://gather.reet.org/
03:11.21Tricksta_but the download is some TSV file
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03:13.54Fisker-to import into cartographer you put in the gatherer.lua file in the addon dir
03:13.56Fisker-as far as i remember
03:15.05Tricksta_ahhh
03:15.35CIA-1703next96 * r23986 10aUF_RangeCheck/ (aUF_RangeCheck.toc locale/koKR.lua):
03:15.35CIA-17aUF_RangeCheck :
03:15.35CIA-17- Add locale koKR
03:16.14kergothTricksta_, there are zips for cart herbalism and mining savedvars both with the gather.reet.org info already imported, on the wowace forum threads :P
03:16.24kergothno point doing it yourself
03:16.56Tricksta_Oh
03:18.50Tricksta_Wowace form threads on Wowinterface?
03:18.55kergothno...
03:18.55kergothwowace.com
03:18.56kergothclick "forums"
03:19.07Tricksta_thankls ker
03:19.08Tainhah I've seen the Futurama episode where they fight the Nintendoens.  But I don't remember after the Space Invaders land and Donkey Kong, Qbert, and the rest get off of the ship and one of them says, "All your base are belong to us."
03:22.07Fisker-then "omg n00b"
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03:28.47CIA-1703murazorz * r23987 10ColaLight/ (7 files):
03:28.47CIA-17ColaLight:
03:28.47CIA-17<PROTECTED>
03:28.47CIA-17<PROTECTED>
03:30.40Tricksta_sigh where is tem notes
03:32.28Tricksta_Woot found it
03:32.33Tricksta_http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3698.0
03:33.27KemayoHmm, I guess that technically murazorz should have asked me before relicensing that...
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03:34.55kebinusanKemayo: revert on principle
03:34.59Kemayo(Not that I care.)
03:35.20CIA-1703sylvanaar * r23988 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: AceOptions value for a single value template will generate get/set if not in a passing group
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03:43.29CIA-1703next96 * r23989 10ColaLight/Core.lua:
03:43.29CIA-17ColaLight:
03:43.29CIA-17- Real UTF-8 save
03:43.29CIA-17- Fix locale koKR
03:43.29CIA-17- Update locale koKR
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03:45.31Tricksta_So the stored data for Herbalism is inside SavedVariables and called Cartographer_Herbalism.lua
03:45.42Tricksta_?
03:46.01Tricksta_Or is the variables stored elsewhere?
03:53.39GnarfozKaelten: if the zip on files magically contains old stuff even though the changelog shows a commit that changed multiple things and no commit after that - does that mean someone reverted the commit?
03:55.07Tricksta_Nice one
03:55.12Tricksta_Nm my question
03:56.12Fisker-fucking lame
03:56.18Fisker-they nerfed the cost on bank slots
03:56.31Fisker-10s,1g,10g,25,25,25,25
03:56.34Fisker-grrr
03:57.10Gnarfozthat was 2.0.1, wasn't it
03:57.22Fisker-yeah
03:57.34Fisker-but didn't know they reduced the prices on the other ones
03:57.57mjchttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8456995878011926927
03:58.16Fisker-is it relevant to my interests mjc ?
03:58.34mjcmaybe
03:58.45Fisker-nah wow rp movies = irrelevant :P
04:00.12Gnarfozsome other SVN admin here?
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04:04.46CIA-1703ag * r23990 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
04:04.47CIA-17ag_UnitFrames:
04:04.47CIA-17<PROTECTED>
04:07.13CIA-1703sylvanaar * r23991 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: oops
04:09.16CIA-1703gnarfoz * r23992 10FuBar_tTracker/ (FuBar_tTracker.lua FuBar_tTracker.toc): FuBar_tTracker - where did the last commit go? o_O
04:13.50Antiarcnevcairiel: ping
04:14.32CIA-1703nargiddley * r23993 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Added slash command /baggins to access options
04:15.36CIA-1703murazorz * r23994 10ColaLight/Core.lua:
04:15.36CIA-17ColaLight:
04:15.36CIA-17<PROTECTED>
04:18.49grennonreading bulkmail code, acegui makes writing a gui sooo easy
04:19.43kebinusanyeah I miss bulkmail
04:19.46kebinusanneed acegui 2
04:19.54kebinusan./poke Tem
04:19.57grennonbulkmail is still out and still works fine
04:20.07vid`i still like gmail the best
04:20.24vid`the mass mail interface is nice
04:20.36Fisker-ah fucking QQ
04:20.38vid`:P
04:20.52Fisker-The Blood Knight Tabard is a reward from the Epic mount quest
04:20.57Fisker-and here i was considering skipping the quest
04:21.08grennonif you look at the "is mailable" inventory windows from Mailto Next, i think they look like the best template for a mass mail window
04:21.13kebinusanvid, have you played with bulkmails mass mail?
04:21.30vid`not really
04:21.31kebinusanusing periodic table for mass mailing is kinda sexy
04:21.34CIA-1703benumbed * r23995 10MusicStream/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
04:21.34CIA-17MusicStream:
04:21.35CIA-17-Can now Remove Channels (including Default Channels)
04:21.35CIA-17-Use ResetDB to restore the Default Channels
04:21.39vid`i fired it up once
04:21.44vid`but i couldnt get it to work
04:21.51vid`i couldnt open any mail for some reason
04:21.54kebinusanyou can setup PT groups to say, mail all herbs to guildherbs, all potions to guildpots, etc
04:21.59vid`while bulkmail was running
04:23.12hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/addons/slide2.avi << boredom crits you
04:23.52hasteoh hey, it has music also, thought I disabled that :D
04:25.37Fisker-Benumbed you here btw?
04:26.51Benumbedno
04:27.05Fisker-QQ
04:27.07Benumbedyeah
04:27.07Fisker-:P
04:27.20CIA-1703sayclub * r23996 10Cartographer/Modules/ (Notes.lua Professions.lua):
04:27.20CIA-17Cartographer:
04:27.20CIA-17- updated koKR localization
04:27.27Fisker-so you read that PlayMusic() doesn't work for http streams anymore right? :(
04:27.42Benumbedyeah hoping its a bug, but prolly not
04:27.51Fisker-kinda sucks
04:27.52Fisker-:(
04:28.08Benumbeddoes it still work for mp3s in interface directory?
04:28.10Fisker-let's start tons of petitions threads
04:28.15Fisker-I haven't tested
04:28.23Fisker-Haven't got time either, going to the bus in a minute
04:28.41Benumbedif they wanna be naxi, let us use asx files and they check addy's or w/e
04:29.00Benumbedlike have to play a http within an asx file inside the interface directory
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04:33.05TheKarn~thekarn
04:33.07purlI'm a banana!
04:33.33TheKarn~x en de my anus is bleeding
04:33.53TheKarn~rot13 my anus is bleeding
04:33.53purlzl nahf vf oyrrqvat
04:34.09TheKarn~rot13 zl nahf vf oyrrqvat
04:34.09purlmy anus is bleeding
04:34.13ag`~x en de I have a big asshole
04:34.29TheKarnhttp://dustin.imeem.com/video/q7lsvAFB
04:34.40ag`~x en de I am a fan of the goatseguy
04:35.04TheKarn~ckknight
04:35.05purlyour mom's <foo>
04:35.18CIA-1703sylvanaar * r23997 10Prat/modules/ChannelSticky.lua: Prat: typo
04:35.35TheKarn~ckknight
04:35.36purlyour mom's <foo>
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04:45.26*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everyone should get !BugGrabber and BugSack | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | It's time we moved away from "Get everyone using Ace" to "Give Ace to everyone"
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04:46.16nymbiapurl, hi
04:46.16purlniihau, nymbia
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04:52.52nymbiapurl, hi
04:52.54purlhello, nymbia
04:53.08nymbiaaww i wanted another niihau :(
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04:56.44Ominouscan you do a secure hook to UseItemByName() ?
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05:00.04sylvanaar~x de en du kanst mir mal blasen
05:00.24sylvanaarbad translation
05:00.45Azurewrathbad german ;p
05:00.48sylvanaar~x de en du kanst mir noch einmal blasen
05:01.13Azurewrath"Du kannst mir noch einmal einen blasen." would be correct ;)
05:01.14sylvanaar~x de en du darfst mir noch einmal blasen
05:02.03sylvanaar~x de en du darfst mir noch einmal einen blasen
05:02.32Azurewrath~whaleslap sylvanaar
05:02.33purlACTION beats sylvanaar upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
05:04.13CIA-1703ominous * r23999 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/Updates.lua: FuBar_PoisonReminderFu: Only when not resting works now
05:05.15Gamefaqmhh whats this, german for beginners? O.o
05:05.38nymbiayes.  lessons, go!
05:06.40AzurewrathAmericans who try to speak the german they learned like 15 years in school are rather funny ;)
05:06.50Azurewratherr, 15 years ago
05:07.21Ordogwhich lib does purl use there?
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05:12.24toddis there any mod that can automatically post auctions for you other than Auctioneer?
05:12.34toddI have a ton of enchanting mats I need to sell, but not in stacks of 20
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05:16.27CIA-1703sayclub * r24000 10Talented/ (Talented.toc locale-koKR.lua): Talented: Added locals koKR
05:17.11ckknightooh, 24000
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05:18.27hasteand it went to a korean :D
05:20.56grennonhrm
05:21.15grennonwhat if a bulk mail screen was just like a bigwigs version check screen
05:21.32grennona small window with a list, and instead of a refresh button, a send button
05:24.07kebinusantodd, fence?
05:24.50kebinusanIt has some auction functions, I know it auto fills in the list price but Im not sure if it will split stacks and do it
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05:30.15CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r24001 10DKPmon/ (3 files in 3 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 -- A couple of bug fixes.
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05:37.51CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r24002 10DKPmon/DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon: v2.0 -- A couple of bug fixes.
05:43.09Antiar2Ok, this is a nice little mod :D
05:43.19Antiar2I just modded BT3 to show keybindings set through SetBinding*
05:43.36Antiar2So you bind Bloodrage to CTRL-F, no matter where you put it in BT3, it'll show the binding.
05:43.48anenigmaNice
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05:44.01Antiar2Works nicely with Spellbinder
05:44.03vinaurhow retarded is this...GetNumLootItems() returns the number of items dropped when you opened the window....if lets say mob drops two items, you loot one of them (don't close window), GetNumLootItems() will still return 2
05:44.08Soullesscan you hook to local functions from another file?
05:44.16Antiar2No
05:44.30anenigmaI have to redo my bindings or something through BT3.  I can't remember exactly what happenned, but after some update, my keybindings no longer showed, but still worked
05:44.31Soullessyeah, figured that, well fuk
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05:45.21vinaurthat's why my code has been freezing the whole day....blizzard is gay
05:47.31CIA-1703next96 * r24003 10Cartographer_Icons/Cartographer_Icons.toc:
05:47.31CIA-17Cartographer_Icons :
05:47.31CIA-17- toc (Title-koKR) fix :)
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05:59.24haste~seen wobin
05:59.49purlwobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd, last said: 'it was offering me USD for WoW gold =P'.
06:00.22hastetime to grep the IRC log I guess
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06:02.55ZealotOnAStickWe need to get this Tristan guy on IRC.
06:02.58ZealotOnAStickHe writes some handy stuff.
06:03.45hasteI couldn't sleep today, so I ended up writing fancy features for my bottombar =\
06:03.54hastealso known as fluff
06:04.05ZealotOnASticksometimes, fluff is fun.
06:04.25ZealotOnAStickother than "I want my own" what are you shooting for with your bar mod?
06:05.06hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/addons/slide2.avi << fluff
06:05.51CIA-1703bima * r24005 10Postman/ (Postman.lua README.txt localization.lua): (log message trimmed)
06:05.51CIA-17Postman: /pman alias; report pending deliveries on login; simplified recipient
06:05.51CIA-17autocomplete (Blizzard does guild members now); don't fill last recipient if it
06:05.51CIA-17was self; fixes for TakeItem to confirm CODs, only take item xor money on a
06:05.51CIA-17click (since both just doesn't work), delete itemless/moneyless/textless
06:05.53CIA-17message, added lengthy comment on GetInboxText bizarreness with returning
06:05.55CIA-17magical nil, and short comment about how autodeletion will sometimes fail to
06:06.02ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/884f/
06:06.28ZealotOnAStickHrm.  I thought Postman was tale's?
06:07.57ZealotOnAStickHmm.  One giant chat window with just a lotta tabs?
06:08.39hasteoro?
06:08.58hastejust minimized until I click it to maximize it
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06:09.32ZealotOnAStickAh.
06:09.41CIA-1703curney * r24006 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules/Buttons.lua modules/ChatButtons.lua):
06:09.41CIA-17Prat:
06:09.41CIA-17- renamed module buttons to chatbuttons to position it alphanumberically next to
06:09.41CIA-17chatframes in the menu (dont really like this move but sylvaanar and i are
06:09.41CIA-17plotting a different way of organizing the menus so it's fine for now).
06:09.42CIA-17- updated chatbuttons for prat 2.0
06:09.44CIA-17- updated toc for new filename
06:09.54hastehandy for a minimalistic interface :)
06:09.57ZealotOnAStickcongratz on being like the third person ever I've known, including myself, to use "oro?" much.
06:10.09hastedamn Kenshin!
06:10.22grennonis it okay if i ripoff the ora version query frame to make a bulkmail UI with ? :-)
06:10.36hasteask [Ammo]
06:10.39grennonremove a column, make the frame bigger, its perfect
06:11.10hasteI recommend you to use "Interface\\ChatFrame\\ChatFrameBackground" instead of the background I used in the oRA template
06:11.12ZealotOnAStickProbably, as I doubt that frame is really a highly unique creation in itself.
06:11.21hasteit looks hotter when it's not that bright, imo
06:11.39grennonwell, its pretty much everything i need in a frame
06:11.49grennontwo buttons, columns, all lua
06:11.58grennonscrollframe
06:12.38ZealotOnAStickoh crap.
06:12.41ZealotOnAStickforgot to close the flue.
06:15.13ZealotOnAStickI need to go pm and thank whoever made that post on WoWInterface yesterday about how nastily CTRA taints stuff.
06:15.42ZealotOnAStickI linked that on my guild's UI board, with links to oRA2, and other sundry alternative addons, and a bunch more people in the guild switched today.
06:17.39grennonit taints stuff?
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06:17.50CIA-1703next96 * r24007 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua:
06:17.50CIA-17Cartographer_Quests :
06:17.50CIA-17- more Localization (Menu list locals)
06:17.50CIA-17- Update locale koKR
06:17.50CIA-17- need another language translation
06:18.06grennonhow does it "taint stuff"?
06:18.12ZealotOnAStickLots.  and Cide's response is basically that he doesn't care.
06:18.31grennonurl?
06:18.34nymbiaand people wonder why i dont like him
06:19.07ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7523
06:19.24ZealotOnAStickI hand-typed that, so if it's wrong, it's the top thread in the CTMod section of their boards.
06:19.29CIA-1703next96 * r24008 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua:
06:19.29CIA-17Cartographer_Herbalism :
06:19.30CIA-17- Update locale koKR
06:19.59CIA-1703next96 * r24009 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua:
06:19.59CIA-17Cartographer_Mining :
06:19.59CIA-17- Update locale koKR
06:20.30ZealotOnAStickWhenever Cide (and usually ck) get into some "discussion" in wowi-lounge, I really, really try to stay neutral and objective, as I don't want to be viewed as "yet another Ace zealot"
06:20.31ZealotOnAStick...
06:20.34ZealotOnAStickpurl, rimshot
06:20.44purlch-ch-chhh
06:20.50Nargiddleylooking at those errors its not taint, just ctra trying to move secure frames in combat. still shouldnt be happening tho :/
06:20.57ZealotOnAStickbut it's tough sometimes since Cide is a fan of the grossly ludicrous generalization.
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06:21.13ZealotOnAStickand the last one I saw he was just a downright rude ass to you, nymbia.
06:21.22CIA-1703next96 * r24010 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua:
06:21.22CIA-17Cartographer_Stats :
06:21.23CIA-17- Update locale koKR
06:21.39ZealotOnAStickRead the link to Cide's previous response.
06:21.42nymbiahe hates my guts, i believe.  mostly cause i always pick apart his flimsy arguments.
06:23.30CIA-1703fatherjim * r24011 10loudmouth/ (5 files):
06:23.30CIA-17loudmouth:
06:23.30CIA-17- Loudmouth 0.8 release candidate 1
06:23.30CIA-17- Localized all UI strings and command line options.
06:23.30CIA-17- Added a 'Wisecrack cooldown', adjustable from 5 seconds to 5 minutes.
06:23.31CIA-17- Added logic to ensure a quote isn't the same as the previously 'spoken' quote.
06:23.54CIA-17- Fixed the enable checkbox label on the GUI to stay visible when Enable is not checked.
06:24.29CIA-1703pastamancer * r24012 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLayout.lua):
06:24.29CIA-17Grid:
06:24.29CIA-17- if frame click action is set to nil, set it to target and print a debug message instead of throwing an error.
06:24.29CIA-17- place party before show()
06:24.48ckknightZealotOnAStick: what response?
06:24.49ZealotOnAStickI'm far too much in the "use what you like and what works well, whoever wrote it" camp to really "pick sides" but sometimes stupid is just stupid.
06:25.13nymbialol.. all those errors in that thread could be prevented by a simple IsInCombatLockdown()
06:25.35Arrowmasterthe current ctraidassist is still the old one but modified for 2.0 right? it hasnt been rewriten yet?
06:25.53nymbiaArrowmaster: this is as 2.0 as he's going to make it, i think.
06:25.55ZealotOnAStickThe "yes, CTMod is tainting the frame, but it doesn't matter" one.
06:26.21kergothZealotOnAStick, yeah, i've never really understood the arguing back and forth about ace vs not using ace and all, its silly. devs will use whatever fits them, whatever makes their lives easier, and users should use whatever meets their needs as well.  whining and bitching amongst ourselves isn't going to change that on either end
06:26.32Arrowmasterwhen i was poking around with ctraid before looking at the code it made me not want to touch it again even with a 10 foot pole
06:26.33kergothbut whatever
06:26.46ZealotOnAStickkergoth: exactly.
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06:26.56Arrowmasterkergoth: i broke kenergy
06:27.03kergothany idea how?
06:27.08xlviiOkay.
06:27.10xlviiI think I'm going to try code something
06:27.11Arrowmasterno but its completely off
06:27.24xlviiHow would I go about 'replying' to text?
06:27.28kergothit annoys me how something as simple as an energy ticker has become such a pain in the ass for me.  either there's something wrong with my approach, or blizzard sucks ass, or both
06:27.31Arrowmasterand i cant get it reset
06:27.34kergothArrowmaster, /ke tickoffset 0
06:27.37kergothwill reset it
06:27.42Arrowmasteri did that
06:27.44ZealotOnAStickI've got a bunch of Ace2 stuff . . . as well as some of Gello's and Tuller's stuff, one of Cladhaire's, and a few other miscellanous bits, and I'm not likely to change unless something bad happens to the addons themselves.
06:27.48kergothare you a druid?
06:27.48Arrowmasterit still wont reset
06:27.51Arrowmasterno rogue
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06:28.36kergothsee if that does anything
06:28.39ZealotOnAStickxlvii: can you ask that question with slightly more useful (to me at least) context?
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06:29.13kergothi've never seen setting tickoffset to 0 fail to reset it... i have seen the time get off before though, and its hard to nail down why... unless i log every energy event at all times, until i run into the situation
06:29.16kergothfrustrating
06:29.32Arrowmasteryeah that didnt work either
06:29.40Arrowmasteri really messed it up somehow
06:29.47Arrowmasteri reset it and its fine until i use distract
06:29.53kergothhmm
06:29.59Arrowmasterthen its like 3 sec ticks instead of 2
06:30.00ZealotOnAStickI am very curious to see what CTRA2 will sport.  Big claims of innovation and awesomeness are easy to make.  I want to see what's delivered.  I'd -love- to be impressed.
06:30.08kergothtry this
06:30.17kergothwait till your energy hits max, do /print kEnergy.energyticking
06:30.21kergothis that false?
06:30.22kergothor nil
06:30.31Arrowmasternil
06:30.34kergothgood
06:30.34kergothhmm
06:31.22kergothits measuring the time between the energy ticks, i dont see how it could get that far off from measuring a single tick after your distract..
06:31.23kergothdamnit
06:31.25grennonZealotOnAStick: it will be RDX with the name changed
06:31.33grennonZealotOnAStick: and more semicolons
06:31.35kergothwhats the tickoffset after distract? whats the value?
06:31.51Arrowmasterright now 0.8357.....
06:31.52ZealotOnAStickgrennon: that'll fail gloriously, I think.
06:32.20kergoth<PROTECTED>
06:32.52Arrowmasterdone
06:33.27kergothdistract and see what it has to say
06:33.55Arrowmastersays -30
06:34.24Arrowmasterthats it just one line with -30
06:34.52kergoththats it picking up your spending of that energy on distract.. if you didnt see anythign else, then the gain of that 30 back was properly interpreted as two energy ticks..
06:34.55kergothnothing unusual there
06:34.57kergothwhat the heck
06:36.58kergothits never actually 2 seconds.  the tick will just always be wrong then.
06:37.06kergoththeres -always- a certain amount of server and network latency
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06:37.19kergothhmm
06:37.39Arrowmasterhow did energywatch2 or whatever it was like 90% of rogues used work
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06:43.18xlviiI want to make a simple AddOn that will reply with 'Congratulations' whenever someone says 'Ding' in the Guild / Party channel. How would I go about doing it? Anything I can read up on?
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06:44.06Feldiasylvanaar, you around?
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07:00.09CIA-1703next96 * r24013 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua:
07:00.09CIA-17Cartographer_Mining :
07:00.09CIA-17- Update locale koKR
07:01.30CIA-1703next96 * r24014 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua:
07:01.30CIA-17Cartographer_Stats :
07:01.30CIA-17- Update locale koKR
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07:09.04sylvanaarFeldia: barely
07:13.01Feldiawell it's no biggie
07:13.09FeldiaI just submitted a bug report on your google page
07:13.12Feldiaso I'm sure you'll get to it!
07:13.28Feldiajust this error basically completely breaks ingame chat :(
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07:19.25DrZootI want to make an addon that replies with "Go Bloit Yourself" everytime someone asks me for gold/silver/copper
07:22.40Soullessis there a way to check if an image or font exists?
07:22.42Soullesslike like if "xxx/ramdom.tga" then
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07:26.51CIA-1703aliset * r24015 10SendSelf/ (Makefile SendSelf.toc sendself.toc):
07:26.51CIA-17SendSelf:
07:26.51CIA-17- Apparently the TOC groveler is case sensitive....
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07:38.25Kaeltenanyone know if mediawiki lets you have children namespaces?
07:38.59CIA-1703aliset * r24016 10SendSelf/SendSelf.toc:
07:38.59CIA-17SendSelf:
07:38.59CIA-17- Man you guys are picky! Removed email address from TOC
07:44.08CIA-1703kergoth * r24017 10kEnergy/tick.lua:
07:44.09CIA-17kEnergy:
07:44.09CIA-17* Fix the default values for the stddev (should fix the issue reported by Arrowmaster).
07:44.09CIA-17* Store spell costs by name _and_ rank.
07:44.09CIA-17* Maintain spell cast state using _SENT to ensure that the multiple _SUCCEEDED events from a single cast don't throw off our energy predictions.
07:44.10CIA-17* Maintain an energy activity log in saved vars (wiped on each ui load) when debugging is enabled, so when a problem is encountered, the user can enable debugging and send me the log.
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07:48.46kergothArrowmaster, test please
07:48.50kergothwhenever you have a chance
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07:48.52kergoth:)
07:52.43CIA-1703fenlis * r24018 10Prat/ (27 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Deleted localization for koKR (temporary modification)
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07:55.15CIA-1703arkayenro * r24019 10ArkInventory/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
07:55.15CIA-17ArkInventory:
07:55.15CIA-17- v1.29
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07:56.53Arrowmasterkergoth: its working a lot better now
07:57.20Arrowmasteralthough the ticker in icehud still seems to be a lot more accurate
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07:59.15ckknighthehe, http://xkcd.com/c207.html
08:01.58Nickenyfikenhaha
08:02.16Nickenyfikenbut i didn't understand the Ackermann one :-/
08:03.20NightHawkTheSanemake sure you hover over the image to read the title tag too. :)
08:04.06Arrowmasteri cant it got cut off
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08:04.23DhragaMorning
08:04.24Nickenyfikenlol
08:04.34Nickenyfikenproperties on the img
08:04.40Arrowmasterjust did
08:04.49Nickenyfikenresize win?
08:05.03NickenyfikenIt means shuffling quickly past nuns on the street with ketchup in your palms, pretending you're hiding stigmata.
08:06.00Soullessis there a way to check if an image or font exists?
08:06.03Soullesslike like if "xxx/ramdom.tga" then
08:06.25Arrowmasterdont think so
08:06.42Elkanomost likely not since that could allow data flow
08:07.20Arrowmasteroh elk i like that new faction gain counter in FactionFu
08:07.22Soullessany way around that, liek to set it and then check if something exists?
08:07.42Soullessarg, theres gatta be a way
08:07.59ElkanoArrowmaster, but it's not 100% accurate, yet
08:08.14Arrowmasteryeah i noticed it doesnt count spillover
08:09.34Elkanowell, it doesn't add eg "Alliance" reputation to the subfactions since I only track the gains via the chat events. Maybe I should simply cache the full data
08:10.15Arrowmastermaybe track it like the old reputation or myreputation mods did
08:10.34Arrowmasterwhich is probably what you ment by cache now that i think about it
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08:12.04Elkanowell, the API call gives you a value not based on current standing so I could store that value on first call and then compare the actual value to that one
08:12.28NargiddleySoulless, just tested
08:12.36NargiddleySetTexure seems to ignore textures that dont exist
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08:12.47Soullesshmmm
08:13.05Soullessaight, that should be enough to get started ty Nargiddley
08:13.15Soullessanybody know of a workaround for fonts?
08:13.46Nargiddleysomething:SetTexture(nil) something:SetTexture("path\\to\\test") if something:GetTexture() then tex exists end
08:13.52Arrowmasterif you fired and update event then on the chat_msg to compare the cached results, would the api calls give the correct values right when the chat msg is called?
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08:22.02FISKER_Q\Anyone know where i can read up on the Blood Elf level 60 mount quest?
08:23.48packetlssFISKER_Q\: paladin mount?
08:23.50ElkanoArrowmaster, if I'm doing it via comparing to session base value, I don't need the chat events
08:25.08Nickenyfikenbah can't commit :-/
08:25.11Arrowmastertrue but i just ment using the chat events to fire an update vs a schuduled repeating event
08:26.33FISKER_Q\yeah packetlss
08:26.48Arrowmasterwas also hoping for maybe something that would be easy for me to hook later to add spillover rep gains to the combat log like reputation did =)
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08:36.51kebinusanAnyone tried postal/postman?
08:37.29NickenyfikenArrowmaster: well most important is to have the current watched faction updated all the time... couldnt the other be just be rescanned when zoning or something like that?
08:37.49Nickenyfikenkebinusan: nope, you?
08:38.26kebinusanwas just about to
08:39.42ElkanoArrowmaster, UPDATE_FACTION fires for that changes anyways
08:40.14Arrowmasterdoh forgot about that
08:40.58Arrowmastertoo many events to keep track of sometimes
08:41.13kebinusanArrowmaster: thats what wowwiki is for
08:42.26Arrowmasterhmm i see Slouken has a thread on the forums about UIParent_ManageFramePositions() tainting and the disappearing pet bar
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08:42.50kebinusanorly
08:42.59Nickenyfikenyeah i saw that yesterday, have he tested bartender3 in 2.0.4 yet?
08:43.24Arrowmasterafaik bartender3 never had a problem with the petbar even when UIParent_ManageFramePositions() was tainted
08:43.45Arrowmasteror atleast i know my UIParent_ManageFramePositions() was tainted for quite a while and i always had a pet bar
08:43.58Nickenyfikenyeah i guess not, atleast i never got any taints playing my huntard
08:44.41kebinusanhmm, you know the bigwigs thaddius arrows sounds in DE sound wrong.. Left sounds like right and right sounds like left
08:44.50Arrowmasteri got lots of stuff in bugsack about PetActionBarFrame:Show() and Hide() but still always had my petbar, i just thought bartender3 used secureframes for the petbar
08:46.44kebinusanthe tainting stuff is kinda annoying
08:46.44Nickenyfikenwell ive noticed something with bt3, i can move all my pet buttons in any custom order, is that even possible using blizz petbar?
08:46.56kebinusanNickenyfiken: yeah
08:47.01Nickenyfikeni mean the attack/defend/passive buttons too
08:47.07Nickenyfikenah ok
08:47.08kebinusantoo bad you cant replace items on the pet bar with macros though
08:47.41Nickenyfikenmmm
08:47.55Nickenyfikenwas 2 years since i had the default actionbars :-P
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08:48.03kebinusanheh yeah
08:48.03Nickenyfikenhard to remember
08:48.48kebinusangypsy -> DAB -> BT for me pretty much
08:48.58Nickenyfikengypsy -> DAB -> Bongos -> BT i think
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08:49.24Nickenyfikenand maybe i had the horror (ct_mod) somewhere in the early days
08:50.14nymbiahmm.. cosmos -> default -> bib -> default -> dab -> bongos -> bt
08:52.01Nickenyfikenbtw, anyone using trinity?
08:52.12Nickenyfikenive only seen it on screens but never tried it
08:52.22kebinusanI love opening my mail box and taking out 47 stacks of herbs and a note saying "I didnt have time to make flasks this week, do you think you could go make me some"
08:52.30Nickenyfikennot that im not happy with bt3 but
08:52.36kebinusanNickenyfiken: I flopped between trinity and bt3
08:52.38nymbiakebinusan: lol.
08:53.03kebinusanI like trinity bars keybinding system, and you can have bars show on mouseover
08:53.08kebinusanwhich you cant do in bt3
08:53.23Nickenyfikenyeah show on mouseover is the only missing thing in bt3 that i would use
08:54.04johNickenyfiken: You're the one behind JavaAceUpdater, right?
08:54.14Nickenyfikenjoh: yup
08:54.26johNickenyfiken: Ok great :) First of all - thanks for a great app :)
08:54.26kebinusanthe way you set key bindings in trinity is nice, you just mouseover the button and click the keybinding you want
08:54.49johNickenyfiken: I've stumbled upon what I think might be a bug though - it keeps updating some addons which are already up to date...
08:55.05Nickenyfikenjoh: thanks. Yeah well i have some bugs...
08:55.22Nickenyfikenoh didn't know about that one
08:55.31Nickenyfikenwhat addons?
08:55.41fatalblowI wonder if blizzard will put up more copies of BC tomorrow
08:55.50Nickenyfikenkebinusan: in something like a editing mode?
08:55.58johNickenyfiken: Ok - I don't know what caused it, but deleting the addon folders *while JavaAceUpdater was running* and then installing them all through it fixed the problem..
08:56.16johNickenyfiken: How does JavaAceUpdater check the version of the addon? Through the .toc or..?
08:56.28kebinusanNickenyfiken: yah
08:57.02johNickenyfiken: It was a lot of addons affected - Ace2 included...
08:57.23Nickenyfikenjoh: no actually its checking changelog-rXXXXX.txt :-P
08:57.33Nickenyfikenif there is not changelog it DL the latest rev
08:57.34Daemonaclient side the toc, serverside latest.txt
08:57.52johNickenyfiken: Haha ok :P how does it know which changelot is the latest? The one with the last number?
08:58.16johNickenyfiken: Could it be that the changelog-rXXXXXX.txt isn't included in some addons?
08:58.36Daemonaelse i cant think of any reason why the /files/addon folder contains that file for any reason @ Nickenyfiken ;)
08:58.39Nickenyfikenyup, i don't know why i made it like that... have never forced my self to change it
08:59.08Nickenyfikenjoh: maybe but it haven't happend to me
08:59.26johNickenyfiken: Hmm ok. I'll let you know when/if it happens again, ok? :)
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08:59.57Nickenyfikenactually i stopped working JAU when WAU was released because it's better... maintaining if because you Mac guys use it
09:00.18johYeah, it's great :)
09:00.19Nickenyfikenit have some (or many?) flaws but atleast its working ok
09:00.46johIt's working quite well - atleast for me :)
09:01.01johWould be nice if WAU could release a mac version though
09:01.14HjalteAnyone thinks it would be possible to make an ace addon like this? Having an actionbar, just a single one, that changes its buttons wheteher the target is friendly or unfriendly.
09:01.18Hjaltehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5783-AlarTTFrame.html
09:01.25Nickenyfikenyeah there was words that it would a long time ago but nothing release yet that i know of
09:01.57johYeah, I heard of a perl script though - couldn't find it in the release...
09:02.09kebinusanyeah I almost used wau, but .net requirement is evil for linux
09:02.16NickenyfikenHjalte: is it possible w/o Ace it should be possible with Ace too :-P
09:02.18johMono ftw?
09:02.33kebinusanso I just use svn up * --ignore-externals
09:02.48Nickenyfikenjoh: no i prefer Dolby 6.1 :-P
09:02.56johNickenyfiken: Haha :P
09:03.13johkebinusan: So you run WoW on lin? On what, Cedega or vanilla wine?
09:03.17Nickenyfikenkebinusan: well if everyone would there would be alot more load on the wowace server
09:03.45kebinusanvanilla wine, though Ive tried cedega but didnt seem any better to justify the cost
09:03.48johkebinusan: But I understand it such that not every svn update is packaged?
09:04.08johkebinusan: Ok, I've used cedega for some time but found the performance so bad compared to win.
09:04.21johkebinusan: As in 1/3 the FPS
09:04.23joh*of the
09:04.38Nickenyfikenjoh: ATI card?
09:04.43kebinusancedega defaults to d3d
09:04.44johNickenyfiken: Nope, nvidia
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09:04.55johkebinusan: opengl didn't help either.
09:05.03Funkeh`good morning folks :)
09:05.05Nickenyfikenoh, ive only heard ppl having decent performance with nvidia cards
09:05.11StephmwI get good performance with nvidia+cedega
09:05.13johNickenyfiken: Well, not me :P
09:05.25Stephmwjoh: what nvidia card do you have?
09:05.35kebinusanyeah I had to back down to the 8xxx nvidia drivers, I updated to 9xxx a couple weeks ago and had real perf issues when turning or near water
09:05.40johNickenyfiken: I even submitted a ticket about it but never got any support.
09:06.12Stephmwkebinusan: did you google for that? supposedly the fix in cedega is in the graphics option
09:06.19johStephmw: It's a 6800
09:06.35Stephmwjoh: so 256mb+?
09:06.42Nickenyfikenok, the lausy WoW performance and some other problems with gfx drivers is what keeping me from linux
09:06.44johStephmw: Think so, yes... I'll check, 2 secs.
09:06.59Nickenyfikenit's a shame to be forced to use win cus of hardware
09:07.05Stephmwaye
09:07.19StephmwI jumped once I got WoW running fine
09:07.23kebinusanstephmw no, just 2+2 it was the only change I made and wow was dogging under wine
09:07.35nymbiajoh: i get great fps with my 6800 under wine
09:07.50kebinusanI need a beefier system so I dont take such a fps hit running beryl and wow at the same time
09:07.55johnymbia: Define "great"...
09:08.19nymbiajoh: generally 60+, bare minimum of 30
09:08.24Stephmwkebinusan: aye, things did improve once I did my 5-yearly hw upgrade
09:09.20Stephmwnymbia: ooo, I don't get quite such good numbers - I'd be interested in details of your setup
09:09.24johnymbia: Hmm, the most I got was 30. Usually around 20-25
09:10.26kebinusanTheres a registry entry that helps performance alot I guess, I never tried it without it
09:10.42nymbiaStephmw: ubuntu 6.10, 1.5 gig of ram, latest stock wine (with one registry tweak to kill some slow opengl extension)
09:10.57Nickenyfikenbtw anyone know where i can get a "good" Gatherer SV file?
09:11.02nymbiaStephmw: amd64 2200ish
09:11.20nymbiaNickenyfiken: i think that's an oxymoron
09:11.45nymbiaNickenyfiken: you looking for one of the ones with all the nodes?
09:11.58kebinusanHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wine\OpenGL DisabledExtensions:GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object
09:12.03Nickenyfikenyeah i want one to import into cartographer
09:12.23kebinusanthats the key if you dont have it, add it you should see an improvement
09:13.10nymbiaNickenyfiken: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3698.msg68954#msg68954
09:13.11Stephmwnymbia: ok, now I really want your setup :-) save for the nvidia card, I have newer components
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09:14.24nymbiaStephmw: :D
09:14.28Nickenyfikennymbia: oh thanks :-) i shouldn't be that lazy and search. Never realized that info was on the forum
09:14.35CIA-1703funkydude * r24020 10ColaLight/Core.lua: ColaLight: UTF-8 *with* signature, when will you learn.
09:14.43nymbiaNickenyfiken: no problem
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09:15.22kebinusanhmm bummer that doesnt have outland
09:15.37kebinusanthott and the like should have some sort of export for the data they collect
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09:16.57Daemonahmmm any1 got an idea why the latest school bugs out on me and isnt loading at all? (no fubar menu)
09:17.18nymbiaalla's data is pretty easy to mine.  wowguru's was the best, though, when they were still.. working.  wowhead's supposed to add something, at least, they've been claiming that they will since the day they fired it up, and now it's in their back-burner category for upcoming features :(
09:17.19Funkeh`because nymbia sucks
09:17.43nymbiaDaemona: any errors?
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09:17.58Daemonanymbia, like ... 7 ? ;)
09:18.04kebinusanfor some reason I havent been able to access thott in a while
09:18.16nymbiaDaemona: ace.pastey.net
09:18.28Daemonai place all 7 in one ok?
09:18.29kebinusanthe site freezes trying to load something from i.thottbot.com in firefox and opera at least.. works fine in elinks
09:18.41nymbiaDaemona: sure
09:18.43Stephmwnymbia: I'm working on something Talent-related and scraping WoW's javascript was a pain
09:19.19nymbiaStephmw: yeah, i bet
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09:19.50Stephmwnymbia: next pain is the sheer size of all the icons
09:20.01nymbialol
09:20.17johnymbia: http://merlin.transgaming.com/showthread.php?msg=61039&forum=1262&thread=61039
09:20.20Stephmw2.5mb - I'm gonna have to reencode them
09:21.03Stephmwnymbia: but seriously about your WINE setup - can I bother you a bit when I get home so I can improve mine?
09:21.26nymbiajoh: i'm assuming it's just as bad with low settings and all mods off?
09:21.30nymbiaStephmw: sure
09:21.51Stephmwnymbia: cheers
09:21.57johnymbia: Yep
09:22.20Stephmw... now, of course, the only downside to my talent work is that it's not ace based.. or even written in lua ;-)
09:22.47Daemonanymbia -> http://ace.pastey.net/4722
09:22.49nymbiajoh: well i'm not quite sure how cedega... works... but is there a windows registry somewhere?
09:23.02nymbiaStephmw: you need the icons for something in-game?
09:23.26CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r24021 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.toc: KingOfTheJungle: ParserLib fix in TOC
09:23.37kebinusanjoh: do you have vanilla wine installed?
09:24.12Stephmwnymbia: no, it'll be wholly outside the game (well maybe it can export some settings, but that'll be a pain)
09:24.20johnymbia: Yep, there is... You suggest I try with that key of yours?
09:24.22Nickenyfikenlol since i installed Kubuntu 6.10 i can't get my gfx drivers to work properly
09:24.27johkebinusan: Not sure, I'll check.
09:24.28nymbiaDaemona: huh... at a glance that looks like an old-fashioned typo.
09:24.33Stephmwnymbia: and it has to be self contained - so I can't have the WoW datafiles around
09:24.37kebinusanNickenyfiken: nvidia?
09:24.44Nickenyfikennope ATI
09:24.54nymbiaStephmw: ah, then yeah, re-encode those nasty buggers.
09:24.59kebinusanIts annoying ubuntu doesnt include the nvidia Xorg server
09:25.06Daemonanymbia: i just came from holidays back home, ran WAU and its broken ;)
09:26.04johOk, I'm gonna give wine another try...
09:26.06Daemonafirst thought, k, someone packed up old libs, so i did the no externals, standalonelibs stuff and well no change ;)
09:26.14nymbiajoh: yeah.  here's the exact instructions i used: http://ace.pastey.net/4723
09:26.21Stephmwnymbia: I've even pondered using a different format (maybe write a wavelet-based one) - figured the minimum number of colours is around 100
09:26.40johnymbia: Thanks
09:27.15nymbiaDaemona: hm..  lemme take a quick look at the School source, one sec.
09:27.37Daemonasure, i just go along checking the other 6 errors in bugsack :D
09:28.43inphsylvanaar heh you put prat2 on the trunk
09:29.20CIA-1703totalpackage * r24022 10Capping/ (8 files):
09:29.20CIA-17Capping
09:29.20CIA-17- FR localization added
09:29.20CIA-17- general localization update, use GetRealZoneText(), and separated files
09:29.20CIA-17- applying more techniques learned from "Coding Tips" plus lots of other code optimizations
09:29.21CIA-17- no longer sends Port/Queue info to chat
09:30.41[Ammo]morning
09:30.53Funkeh`good morning [Ammo]
09:30.57kebinusanmornin
09:31.01johnymbia: Is it necessary to install wow through wine first or?
09:31.07kebinusanjoh no
09:31.10nymbiajoh:  no
09:31.20kebinusanyou can just go into your wow dir, and wine WoW.exe -opengl
09:31.36johnymbia: Ok thanks, any special configuration required to run it off another location?
09:32.06nymbiaDaemona: try this.  open up the file School/School.lua, search for "AceLibrary:HasInstance("AceDebug-2.0")" and replace it with "false"
09:32.23nymbiajoh: just gotta get the wine drives configured so it's somewhere visible
09:33.14nymbiaDaemona: there'll be two of those.
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09:34.21johnymbia: Yeah, I just discovered that I'm unable to mount my ntfs disk rw so I'll have to copy everything over :-/
09:34.36Mikmaass booty ass
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09:35.23nymbiajoh: yeah, pain in the ass.  there's some ways to get the ntfs to mount rw, but it's probably a lot safer to use a native partition for wow.
09:35.24DrZootdoes anyone know if its possible to restrict the drag axis of a frame? I only want users to be able to drag the frame along the x axis
09:35.51Mikmahttp://thepiratebay.org/tor/3511087/www.romp.com_flash_animation_collection :)
09:35.52kebinusanyou could probably cheat and data directories and have the wtf and cache folders only on your linux disk
09:36.38nymbiaDrZoot: you could let 'em drag it anywhere then snap it to the correct spot on the y-axis when they finish dragging?
09:37.00Adirellenymbia : what about "ugly" onupdate correction ?
09:37.02DrZootnymbia, hey thats a good idea, will try that, thanks
09:37.14nymbiaAdirelle: how do you mean?
09:37.38nymbiaAdirelle: oh, i understand.  hmm
09:37.51nymbiaAdirelle: would that interrupt the drag?
09:37.55Adirellesomething like (inaccurate code) "ondragstart: fixedx = frame:getx()", "onupdate: setframex(fixedx)"
09:38.04HjalteNickenyfiken: The problem is just who's going to make it ;) Would be nice if it could be incorporated in eg Bartender3 :)I
09:38.25Adirellethis sort of code is used for minimap placement
09:39.32nymbiaAdirelle: hmm.  well that's another good idea, then :)
09:39.39CIA-1703ammo * r24023 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar-2.0: more room for the timertext, this one should please funkeh
09:39.40johnymbia: Haha, I must create a screenshot of this :P
09:39.45Adirellebtw, dunno if it is can still be used without tainting the frame
09:39.48johnymbia: The graphics are *so distorted*
09:39.54johnymbia: Everything is upside down and whatnot...
09:39.56Daemonanymbia, error msges gone, i doubt i have to do some work test do i?
09:40.03nymbiajoh: lol, sounds fun.
09:40.39johnymbia: Yeah :P
09:40.52nymbiaDaemona: should be working fine.  what we did is tricked it into thinking you didn't have AceDebug loaded, so that it doesn't try to load it, and doesnt get that conflict.
09:41.30johnymbia: Gonna try copying it over to a native lin partition now...
09:41.40Daemonayeah figured about that much :/ programming is nothing fancy for me, but i understand a bit, but that problem went too far :)
09:41.42nymbiajoh: lol, might help ;)
09:42.05nymbiaDaemona: it happens ;)
09:42.06Elkanosylvanaar was the one updateng prar, right?
09:42.11nymbiaElkano: yup
09:42.51Elkanoold prat used to color guild mates/friends coming online, didn't it?
09:43.52nymbianot sure off the top of my head.
09:44.03HjalteElkano: Yea it did
09:44.21Elkanowell, the new one seems to not do it :(
09:46.07inphElkano: works for me
09:46.23HjalteElkano: You let it save the database and get the players info first, right? It wiped the settings in this new version, so you might need to give it a little time
09:46.29inphand i just deleted my old settings and installed the latest off the trunk
09:46.47inphtry opening your guild page and toggling show offline members
09:46.54inphto trigger the guild_update event
09:46.54Elkanowell, I have saving turned off but it should cache on login from the guild list
09:47.25ElkanoI did that and in the guild chat it works but not for the 'come online' messages
09:48.10Daemonawell for me its colors the line yellow ;)
09:48.21Daemonalooks as usual for me ;)
09:50.15Elkanowell, for me it used to color the name and show the level
09:50.33CIA-1703fleetfoot 07v3 * r24024 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua:
09:50.33CIA-17BigTrouble:
09:50.33CIA-17- AutoShot should now work correctly again.
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09:55.55CIA-1703kaelten * r24025 10cgProfiler/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
09:55.55CIA-17cgProfiler -
09:55.55CIA-17- npc data rewrite.
09:58.25CIA-1703nymbia * r24026 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua: SpellBinder: don't load up the frame until called.
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10:04.12kebinusanhmm, according to google, anal sex is a more popular search term than oral sex
10:04.59johnymbia: http://joh.deworks.net/wow/wowine.png :P
10:05.28kebinusanjoh, wow thats messed up
10:05.31Thorgardjoh, trippy
10:05.38nymbialol awesome.
10:05.55nymbiais that opengl or d3d?
10:06.08KaeltenAwaynight guys
10:06.20Funkeh`nn
10:06.38nymbianight KaeltenAway
10:06.56johnymbia: Not sure :P
10:07.06nymbiajoh: most likely d3d then ;)
10:07.19johnymbia: And opengl is the way to go, or..
10:07.21joh? :P
10:07.35nymbiajoh: yes, opengl works better under wine :)
10:07.40kebinusanrun wow with a -opengl  or SET gxApi "OpenGL" in config.wtf I believe
10:07.56nymbiajoh: but i never had it turn THAT ugly on me under d3d, lol
10:07.57kebinusandont quote me on the second one, its probably wrong
10:08.03CIA-1703drzoot * r24027 10/branches/Axon/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Axon: Added some test code for bar drag handles.
10:08.11kebinusanjoh, are you running beryl or anything ?
10:08.14andremar<PROTECTED>
10:08.21johkebinusan: beryl?
10:08.24johnymbia: Hehe :P
10:08.42kebinusanjoh, probably not then, its an eye candy window manager
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10:08.51nymbiakebinusan: i've had it not obey the gxApi on occasion, so i just use -opengl.  i use a shell script to fire up wow, anyway, since i run a command to make sure the nvidia drivers are loaded
10:09.05johkebinusan: Ah, nope. Clean Xorg here...
10:09.15Stephmwoh: funky screenshot
10:09.21Stephmwjoh: ^^
10:10.31kebinusanjoh, try just moving Config.wtf to config.bak or something and let wow load up wiht the default graphical settings maybe
10:11.10Nickenyfikenbah, whats the /script whatever to show what frame mouse pointer is over?
10:11.11johkebinusan: Ok I will thanks
10:11.15johStephmw: Yeah :P
10:11.24nymbiajoh: are you still moving that wow dir over or are you ready to keep tweaking stuff?
10:12.17johnymbia: Ready to tweak!
10:12.26nymbiak :)
10:12.39nymbiafirst off, have you added that registry key?
10:13.04johnymbia: Not yet...
10:13.18johnymbia: Kinda wanted the graphics to display correctly first :P
10:13.26nymbiajoh: fine fine ;)
10:13.58inphcan someone running Prat2 test timestamps for me by trying to set it to %R
10:14.11nymbiajoh: make a shell script or something to do 'wine wow.exe -opengl'
10:14.32inphchecking that it breaks all chat output (you can still see bubbles in /say) and changing it back to %X doesnt have any effect and you need to reloadui with it on %X
10:14.49johnymbia: Working on opengl now yeah :)
10:15.14nymbiajoh: :)
10:15.21johnymbia: Tried with -opengl and now everything is flashing
10:15.32nymbiajoh: also, do you know which graphics card drivers you're using?
10:15.35johnymbia: I didn't add opengl to Config.wtf though - thought I might let wow generate a default one first.
10:15.39kebinusanjoh, and what wine version
10:15.51johkebinusan: wine 0.9.22
10:15.59nymbiaew that'll cause problems
10:16.02kebinusanjoh, update to 0.9.28 the flashy will go away
10:16.09johnymbia: What to add?
10:16.18johkebinusan: You sure? :P
10:16.21kebinusanyeah
10:16.29kebinusanit was fixed in 0.9.27 actually I think
10:16.38kebinusanand there was a patch for 25 and 26 to fix it
10:16.41nymbiajoh: for config.wtf?   add SET gxApi "opengl"
10:16.52johnymbia: thanks
10:17.13nymbiabut yeah, get that newer version of wine -- lets get your graphics working first off ;)
10:17.19johnymbia: Trying again...
10:17.30johnymbia: Ok, still flashy. gonna upgrade.
10:17.40nymbiaok
10:18.35DrZootnymbia, you run WoW under wine?
10:18.41nymbiaDrZoot: yup
10:18.51kebinusansame here
10:18.54DrZootnymbia, do you notice any performance hit?
10:19.42nymbiaDrZoot: once i got it configured right, nope.
10:20.09kebinusanthe wine appdb is nice for little tweaks and tips to get things running smoothly
10:20.37kebinusanrunning ventrilo under wine is a tad annoying
10:20.37DrZootnymbia, mmm, I used to run linux on this box but after I got addicted to WoW i switched over to xp, figured that was the easiest way to run it, might have to try under linux some time
10:21.01nymbiakebinusan: omfg don't get me started on how much i tried to get that working.
10:21.07johnymbia: Rerunning now...
10:21.15johNo flashing! :D
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10:21.34johSound is tricky though :P
10:21.39nymbiaDrZoot: well, up until recently it was a lot more laborious than it is.
10:21.40johSmall beeps here and there...
10:21.51Stephmwkebinusan: I never succeeded with Ventrilo - TS2 I can get working, just.
10:22.00nymbiajoh: we'll work on sound.  ;)
10:22.13johnymbia: Sure :P
10:22.23kebinusannymbia: I have two sound cards, and theres a 3rd party app called ventriloctl or something that you can read a key from the /dev/input/eventX so I can have PTT without having the vent window active
10:22.44kebinusanlistening is fine, but people complain sometimes they hear me hit my PTT key
10:22.59johnymbia: Right, setting the resolution doesn't work in-game?
10:23.00kebinusanso I just have vent use one sound card, then my wow sound outputs to the other
10:23.09nymbiai tried about a million different ways to get ventrilo working under alsa-oss.  gave up and run it as flat oss -- can't get wow sound while it's up, but whatever.
10:23.10DrZootnymbia, yeah, thats why i switched to windows, I didnt want to be stuck in the situation where I was spending more time trying to make WoW work properly than actually playing
10:23.10Stephmwwish I had enough space for two cards ;)
10:23.13johnymbia: I'll edit the Config.wtf myself...
10:23.47nymbiakebinusan: i never had any problem getting the PTT key to detect while wow is in the foreground.
10:24.20OvrLrd-QIm probably just a moron, but with bartender3 when I hit the 2 button . . it trys to perform the action in slot 4. And when I hit 3, I got no clue what it's trying to run since it since I must be in stealth but I have eviscerate in slot 3
10:24.48kebinusannymbia: yeah, its listed as a problem on appdb for vent, might be a bug they introduced
10:24.57johnymbia: Ok, resolution is fine now...
10:24.57packetlssSaroz: you here?
10:25.06nymbiajoh: i just use my desktop resolution, but i believe there's some setting in winecfg to allow stuff to control the resolution.
10:25.12johnymbia: Or, no it's not... :(
10:25.18nymbia:(
10:25.35johnymbia: My UI is completely broken ...
10:25.42johnymbia: Seems the resolution is still too big.
10:25.45nymbiaOvrLrd-Q: check to see how the keys are mapped in the bindings menu
10:25.49johnymbia: Err, too small...
10:25.55nymbiajoh: likely it's going off your screen.
10:26.23kebinusannymbia: yeah I gave up getting vent and wow to play nice with a single sound card
10:26.35OvrLrd-Qjoh: they're all correct under action bar functions
10:26.48johOvrLrd-Q: What do you mean?
10:27.22OvrLrd-Qwell which 'bindings' menu you talking about?
10:27.44kebinusanOvrLrd-Q: is confused, I think he's talking to nymbia
10:27.58OvrLrd-Qoh
10:28.00OvrLrd-Qmy bad lol
10:28.00packetlss~seen Saroz
10:28.24purlsaroz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'I blame fubar'.
10:28.24johOvrLrd-Q: I'm talking to nymbia yes :P
10:28.24CIA-1703ammo * r24028 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: bit less AFK/DND comm messages.
10:28.24nymbiakebinusan: i saw a ton of people who had got it working perfect with just alsa-oss.  but i cant transmit if i run it under aoss :(.  saw still more posts from people who had gotten it working with a library called jack.  i broke an install trying to get that damn thing working.
10:28.24johnymbia: Ok, changing any of the video settings makes the game crash...
10:28.24OvrLrd-Qbeen up for fricken ever, read the line and looked to who said it and chat scrolled lol :)
10:28.50OvrLrd-Qso nymbia, the bindings are correct :)
10:29.02nymbiaOvrLrd-Q: weird.  uh... hit it with a stick.
10:29.04kebinusanjoh, you can set wow to play full screen windowed mode by editing the config.wtf then it wont matter what the game resolution is.. it will just stretch it a bit to fit if needed
10:29.19nymbiajoh: yeah, i just tweak 'em in config.wtf if need be.
10:29.33RoyalDid PerfectRaid layout get removed from AGUF?
10:29.35Royalrecently
10:29.50kebinusanjoh, 'SET gxWindow "1"'
10:29.52johnymbia, kebinusan: Right... Which options are which in Config.wtf?
10:30.18kebinusanand SET gxDepthBits "24", SET gxResolution "1024x768"
10:30.22kebinusanfor example
10:30.23Mikmagrzesieq: moo
10:30.29nymbiajoh: they generally have intuitive names, which ones are you after specifically?
10:30.58johnymbia: Spell detail level, texture quality, etc...
10:31.06OvrLrd-Qoh i know the problem
10:31.18Mikmagrzesieq: http://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar.jpg -> http://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar-0.3.zip
10:31.21johnymbia: Generally I want all of those at their best but terrain distance set to 3d lowest
10:31.52OvrLrd-Qwhen i stealth, the stealth page comes up, and when i attack and leave stealth, it's still trying to call the stuff on the stealth page and not what's on the normal page 1
10:33.32johnymbia: I'll try with my original win-config.wtf
10:33.45nymbiajoh: ok
10:34.20johnymbia: Ok, now it's fine.
10:34.26nymbiajoh: :)
10:34.33nymbiajoh: wanna try for some sound?
10:34.35johnymbia: Except the FPS though - 22fps
10:34.47OvrLrd-Qgrrr, gotta reinstall ctmod :(
10:34.47odtOvrLrd-Q: rebind keys using the bt keybinding interface
10:34.50johnymbia: Let's do the FPS first - it was the main reason I switched to win...
10:34.50kebinusanjoh, you add that registry entry from earlier?
10:34.56johkebinusan: Not yet...
10:35.00kebinusando that
10:35.09johkebinusan: Ok, do I need regedit or what?
10:35.13nymbiajoh: yeah, try that reg entry.  it's a major help
10:35.19kebinusanjust run regedit from a shell prompt
10:35.21nymbiajoh: it comes with wine
10:35.33johnymbia: aha
10:35.40johnymbia: What was it that I was supposed to add again?
10:35.53nymbiahttp://ace.pastey.net/4723
10:35.57johnymbia: Thanks
10:36.00nymbia:)
10:36.23OvrLrd-Qodt: and how exactly do I open that?
10:37.59odtOvrLrd-Q: in the bt3 menu, either on your minimap or fubar
10:38.28johnymbia: Ok, I've created HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Wine/OpenGL/DisabledExtensions
10:38.47johnymbia: However I don't understand where I'm supposed to double click to make some dialog box open...
10:38.56joh"Then double click anywhere on the line, a dialog box will open. "
10:39.07OvrLrd-Qodt: dont see anything about bindings
10:39.26johnymbia: Oh nvm, got it now :P
10:39.28nymbiais it a string value?
10:39.30nymbiaok
10:40.09johnymbia: Trying now...
10:40.16nymbiagood luck :D
10:40.24johnymbia: Thanks :P I know I'm gonna need it!
10:40.51johnymbia: 44fps! Not bad!
10:41.02nymbiajoh: nothing to sneeze at ;)
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10:41.26nymbiajoh: lets see about getting that up a scratch more.  open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
10:41.44johnymbia: Ok
10:43.02nymbiajoh: find 'nvidia' in that file
10:43.17nymbiajoh: what does it have listed as Driver?
10:43.46johnymbia: Driver is "nvidia" ofcourse.
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10:44.17johnymbia: Ok, I'm in AV now at the starting gate and I get like 16fps :(
10:44.25nymbia:(
10:45.03nymbiajoh: well, that driver's fine.. hm.  your sound's still funky, i'm assuming?
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10:45.29johAlso, my numpad is behaving strangely :P after I bind a button to for example num pad 2 and then try to rebind it to num pad 2 it doesn't catch the key press...
10:45.41nymbiaweird.
10:45.44johnymbia: Yeah, but forget about the sound. If I get 22fps it's not worth bothering about...
10:46.08nymbiajoh: i was thinking that your sound problems might be part of what's killing the framerate
10:46.20johnymbia: Might be ...
10:46.39johnymbia: Let's try sound then...
10:46.53odtsomeone actually plays wow with sound?
10:47.21nymbiajoh: add "SET SoundOutputSystem "1"" and "SET SoundBufferSize "100"" to your config.wtf
10:47.22johhehe, sometimes yes
10:47.47nymbiajoh: then fire up winecfg, click on the sound tab, and uncheck everything but "OSS"
10:49.01johnymbia: Done
10:49.08johnymbia: then restart wow I presume...
10:49.26nymbiajoh: yeah. and make sure that stuff in config.wtf doesnt disappear after wow exits
10:49.43johnymbia: Oh right
10:49.51johnymbia: It did :P
10:49.55nymbia;)
10:50.45nymbiajoh: oh, also another couple graphics tweaks in winecfg that might help, when you get a chance
10:50.50johnymbia: Sound is still crappy at the loading screen atleast...
10:51.26CIA-1703sayclub * r24029 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:
10:51.26CIA-17GridStatusHealer
10:51.26CIA-17- Added locals koKR
10:51.51nymbiajoh: well shit.  go into winecfg and make sure that the sound drivers other than OSS didnt re-enable themselves.
10:52.30nymbiajoh:  and while you're in there, enable pixel shaders and set vertex shader support to hardware
10:52.43nymbiajoh: (under graphics of course)
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10:53.49CIA-1703nargiddley * r24030 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
10:53.49CIA-17Baggins:
10:53.49CIA-17- Bind rule type now uses global strings for localization, no longer need localized values to function
10:53.49CIA-17- New rule type, Tooltip. Filters based on string in the tooltip, will match using global strings if set to the name of one.
10:53.49CIA-17- Add items with ITEM_BIND_QUEST ("Quest Item") to quest items default category, and remove quest items from the trash category
10:53.49johnymbia: Ok, 2 secs...
10:54.15johnymbia: Ok, OSS is still the only one selected. I would've thought ALSA was the best sound system?
10:54.33nymbiajoh: wine's alsa driver is shitty :(
10:54.46johnymbia: Ah ok
10:54.47Nargiddleyok, i think thats the last of the rule types done for baggins :D
10:54.56johnymbia: pixel shaders are already enabled and set to hardware..
10:55.11nymbiajoh: ah
10:55.19johnymbia: I'm sorry to say - but this doesn't look good :-/
10:55.24nymbiaNargiddley: nice.  :D
10:55.33nymbiajoh: yeah, it doesnt.  =\
10:55.47johnymbia: Which distro are you running btw?
10:55.53nymbiajoh: ubuntu
10:55.58johnymbia: Edgy?
10:56.01nymbiayeah
10:56.04Nargiddleyprobably give it a day or 2 for bug reports and localizations to catch up then release beta 1
10:56.08johnymbia: Same as me then...
10:56.43johnymbia: Kernel version?
10:58.37CIA-1703elkano * r24031 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua:
10:58.37CIA-17FuBar_FactionsFu
10:58.37CIA-17- greatly improved tracking of session gains
10:58.39nymbiajoh: 2.6.17
10:58.45CIA-1703tigerheart * r24032 10AutoAcceptInvite/ (AutoAcceptInvite.lua AutoAcceptInvite.toc):
10:58.45CIA-17AutoAcceptInvite:
10:58.45CIA-17- Updated for WoW 2.0. Oops, forgot to commit!
10:58.49johnymbia: Same as me aswell ... graphics card?
10:59.21CIA-1703elkano * r24033 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.lua:
10:59.21CIA-17FuBar_GuildFu
10:59.21CIA-17- did some small speed ups
10:59.32CIA-1703elkano * r24034 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.lua:
10:59.32CIA-17FuBar_FriendsFu
10:59.32CIA-17- did some small speed ups
10:59.39nymbiajoh: uh.. some flavor of 6800
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10:59.58johnymbia: I'm getting 16fps in combat - it's like playing on my 2 year old mac laptop :P
11:00.29nymbiajoh: gross.  i dont understand what the difference is :(
11:00.54johnymbia: Me neither :(
11:01.13johnymbia: Ah well, thanks a lot for your help though
11:01.27nymbiajoh: no problem, sorry we couldnt get it working better =\
11:02.04johnymbia: Yeah :-/
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11:08.22CIA-1703nargiddley * r24035 10Baggins/Baggins-enUS.lua: Baggins: update enUS
11:09.12nymbiaNargiddley: that's a weird commit note.  usually a single solitary locale file update is for something other than enUS, heh
11:09.32Nargiddleyyeah, helps if its saved before commiting changes
11:09.45nymbialol, yeah
11:10.00Nargiddleydiddnt get it in the last commit somehow, but wasnt erroring in game
11:10.11nymbiaodd
11:10.41Nargiddleyhmm i bet i diddnt actually use the localized string in the new rule :/
11:10.54nymbiahaha
11:10.57Nargiddleyno, i did
11:10.58Nargiddleyweird
11:11.32kebinusannymbia: just curious, do you know if its possible to launch wow to a specific virtual desktop
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11:12.22nymbiaso is that tooltip rule pretty fast?  making then parsing tooltips for each item to determine if it's in a category seems like it'd be so slow
11:12.39yacoobhttp://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1859ux7.jpg - that's one big axe
11:12.43nymbiakebinusan: hm, not sure.
11:12.47Nargiddleydoesnt seem to be too slow
11:13.09hasteOminous: ping
11:13.15Ominouswee
11:13.28Nargiddleyi've got it pretty well optimised for not rescanning an item unless needed
11:13.43nymbiaNargiddley: well it's only checking one item per BAG_UPDATE, so i guess it wouldnt be too bad.  it just scares me a bit ;)
11:14.08Ominoushaste: in continuation to last night convesation, can you just do a secure hook to UseItemByName for the poisons which would then catch from svery source?
11:14.29Nargiddleynymbia, only checking one item if its actually changed per BAG_UPDATE to be exact :D, ammo changing count wont get rescanned etc
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11:14.53hasteOminous: there are a lot of other ways to apply poisons then using that function tho'
11:15.18nymbiaNargiddley: nice.
11:15.46Ominoushmm, ok
11:16.54Nargiddleyhmm, might be slow actually :/
11:17.08Nickenyfikenyeah i just mined 105 copper ore with my warrior toon :-P
11:17.42Nargiddleyonly really a problem first opening the bags tho, just tried it on my main and pretty sure it was a bit slower
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11:19.10nymbiahmm.. well, that's not too much of a problem, then.
11:19.55Nargiddleymaybe i should put a warning on that rule that alot of them might slow things down
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11:26.45Nargiddleynymbia, yeah its a pretty intensive rule. full rescan for me is taking about 450ms with 2 of them 250ms without
11:27.26nymbiaouch.
11:27.37Daemonahmmmm anyone here who can explain me why my game freezes anytime something with my raid lineup changes? e.g. joining/leaving/switching?
11:27.45malifaehi guys, ran into a weird problem with ace profiles tonight, i rebuilt my UI last week and I had every addon set up to use the char profile and it was working great, tonight i started working on an alt's ui, set all the profiles to char, and totally destroyed all my profile settings for the other char
11:27.59Nargiddleywonder if caching the result of rules like that on itemids would be a good idea
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11:28.19Nargiddleysince it wouldnt change
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11:28.54snurrehm, why does OneView store character info in the format of "<name> - <name>" now, instead of the old single <name>?
11:30.44malifaewas wondering if i was misunderstanding how profiles work, i thought if you set them to char, they would save for only that char
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11:36.50Ominousis there a way to find out what spell is in a bartender button given its if
11:36.52Ominousid*
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11:39.29|Kev|does anyone have any experience with what seems to be a bartender3 bug, whereby when druids shift, the bars become detached from the keybindings?
11:40.15|Kev|so I'll happy be taunting with 2 in bear form, then I'll shift to caster form, and 2 will still be bound to taunt, even though the caster bar has the second button as wrath??
11:40.40|Kev|so I won't be able to hotkey any of my spells, as it'll try using feral attacks instead?
11:42.29nymbiathat sounds nasty.  i know there's been some turbulence regarding BT3's bindings, but i'm not sure if i've heard that particular issue before
11:42.38[Ammo]~seen vhaarr
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11:43.01nymbiapurl, you suck at life
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11:44.29anenigmahehe.  mem usage: 70 mb.  /sws nuke.  mem usage: 30mb :D
11:44.37nymbiawow
11:44.40CIA-1703nargiddley * r24037 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Removed tooltip rule from trash category, takes too much processing to be worth it
11:44.51anenigmahaven't nuked in ages
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11:49.32Ominoushow would you split "OneBag4Item2" into 4 and 2?
11:50.45Nargiddleystring.match("OneBag4Item2","OneBag(%d+)Item(%d+)")
11:51.30Ominouscan you just remove OneBag from the second part? so that it would work on normal inventrory
11:51.48Nargiddleyyeah
11:53.19Ominousty
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11:54.27snurrehm, OneView is offically broken i think
11:55.12Ominousna it works
11:55.38[Ammo]works fine here
11:55.53snurredoesnt store char info at all here
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11:57.14Ominousis it possible to find out what action is in an action id?
11:57.19snurrewhen I just open it, it says "Overnuker - Dragonmaw's Bank Bags" which is how it should be i guess.. but in the char select list it shows "Overnuker - Overnuker" and "Snurre - Snurre"
11:57.25[Ammo]Ominous: tooltipscan
11:57.29snurreso for some reason it's using char names as realm names
11:57.37snurreand yes, ive reset SVs
11:57.48Ominous[Ammo]: would you need your curser over it for that?
11:58.10Elkanobtw: is MobMitigation/ParserLib-combo broken for anyone else?
11:58.35[Ammo]Ominous: you can do: sometooltip:SetAction(id)
11:58.43Ominousah :)
11:58.43[Ammo]and then scan that tooltip I thin
11:59.03[Ammo]Elkano: no idea, I don't use MobMiti
12:00.18nymbiai havent touched MobMit in a while, maybe a change in parser?
12:00.27[Ammo]don't think parser was changed recently
12:00.28[Ammo]but not sure
12:00.35[Ammo]besides, they should not affect eachoter
12:00.45nymbiaMobMit uses parser ;)
12:00.57[Ammo]aha
12:01.17nymbiaonly change is some code cleanup by vhaarr, shouldn't have broken anything
12:02.07nymbialemme check.
12:02.18Elkanowell, but it did for some reason
12:03.37Ominous[Ammo] Thanks got it
12:04.13[Ammo]n/p
12:04.17ElkanoMobMitigation-0.1\MobMitigation.lua:429: attempt to concatenate field 'victimLevel' (a nil value)ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:1121: in function `NotifyClients'ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:1091: in function `OnEvent'ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:270: in function <...terface\AddOns\ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:270>
12:04.52nymbiaElkano: i got the same
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12:13.43CIA-1703totalpackage * r24038 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer/Modules/Notes: line 632 - fixed rgb order typo (reason old green data became blue)
12:15.25Ominousin a function i call this which returns a table, with this table i can print it and it contains data i need but i can to a string.match for it as it is a table
12:16.17Ominousany ideas?
12:16.26CIA-1703nirek * r24039 10Nvp/Nvp.lua: Nvp: localization fix
12:16.50snurrehttp://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1056/oneviewyx6.jpg
12:16.55snurrewhat causes that?
12:17.11Ominousu got the latest version?
12:17.30snurreyeah, updated and reset SVs only 2h or so ago
12:17.41snurrehad same problem yesterday
12:20.52CIA-1703nymbia * r24040 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua: MobMitigation: Fixed oddness introduced by ParserLib changes.
12:20.54phyberugly, ugly borders in OneBag :/
12:21.02Ominousany ideas on above problem and how i can convert that table into a string as tostring() dosent work
12:21.13nymbiaElkano: let me know if that took care of it for you
12:21.26SoLoR<phyber> ugly, ugly borders in OneBag :/
12:21.31SoLoRye noticed that my self...
12:21.40SoLoRbut they where normal like a month ago...
12:21.56SoLoRso dunno when "bug" was introduced and with what addon
12:21.57AdirelleOmnious : table.concat(func(), ' ')
12:22.08Adirelleor something like that (check lua manual)
12:22.35Ominousand i presume arg2 would be the table?
12:22.44Nargiddleywhat exactly does the table contain ?
12:23.03phyberself:Print("Offline: "..table.concat(offliners, ", "))
12:23.10phyberI use that in one of my scripts.
12:23.23phyberoffliners is the table, ", " is what I want to space the entries with.
12:23.37Ominousurm info about the buttoin but thats now what i want its the title of table as a string,
12:24.14AdirelleOmnious: wait, what do you mean by "table" ?
12:24.15Nargiddleyyou want the title field from the table ?
12:24.22Ominousbasicalyl when you print(this) you get ..OneBag4Item2 but you cant do a string.match as it is a table
12:24.35Nargiddleythis:GetName()
12:24.44Nargiddleyif this is a button or other UI element
12:24.50Nargiddleywhich i'm guessing it is
12:25.41Ominousah ok :)
12:26.05Adirelleyou probably want something like, string.match(this:GetName(), '%d+Item%d+')
12:26.21Adirelles/')/$')/
12:27.22Ominousok ty
12:28.35evlAre interface options set after an addons OnEnable?
12:31.12DrZootI managed to get my sorting algorithm to stop eating memory yay for me :D
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12:32.04Ominoushmm cant get the string match to work
12:32.43Nargiddleywhat does it look like atm ?
12:32.49DrZootDoes anyone know what events I could watch to find out when someone is using consumables? atm im mainly after pots/hs/tubers
12:33.04DrZoots/someone/the player/
12:33.34Ominousah got ot working tty :)
12:33.47Fayarasomeone here who knows much about the code of fubar?
12:33.49nymbiaDrZoot: does UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED fire for consumables? because it contains the spell name
12:33.52Daemonauhm beside looking for changes of mana/hp in the possible ranges of the consumables, no?
12:34.08Fayarai have a question about changing the width of Fubar
12:34.13DrZootnymbia, not sure, ill have to buy some consumables and check :D
12:34.45DrZootDaemona, mmm, that sounds hard, specially since hs's can crit, but I will keep it in mind
12:35.21Daemonahmm nymbia the succeed msg sounds clever :)
12:35.30nymbia:D
12:36.46Nargiddleyit fires for healthstones at least
12:36.49Nargiddleyjust tested
12:36.52nymbianice
12:37.15Ominoushmm another problem now string  "BT3Button3" whats wrong with local s = string.match(this:GetName(), "Button(%d+)")
12:37.54nymbiamy hunch is that it'll work for pots and tubers
12:38.00Funkeh`sylvanaar: ping
12:38.16nymbiaOminous: that looks fine.  make sure that this:GetName() is returning the right value.
12:38.19Ominousit is
12:38.53nymbiahm
12:39.23Nargiddleyyou're not trying to use s outside the block its declared in ?
12:39.37Ominousno, waa if i print s i get the valu
12:39.38Ominouse
12:40.10Ominousbah i know what is it /slap forgot to put GameTooltip: infront of a function
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12:44.04DrZoothrmm, your idea works nymbia but it wont do what I want it to do :(
12:44.21nymbiaDrZoot: what's it missing?
12:45.35DrZootnymbia, well what I really want to do is monitor/display the cooldowns for pots/hs/tuber etc I dont think I can get that information easily from the information given in UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
12:46.19NargiddleyBAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN fires whenever an items cooldown changes
12:46.43nymbiaDrZoot: doesnt it return the name of the spell that went through?  just keep a local cache of the cooldowns of each spellname :)
12:47.09DrZootnymbia, haha I did say easily didnt I? :D
12:47.17Nargiddleydunno how easy it would be to get cooldowns when you dont have one left
12:47.31nymbiadont think you can :(
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12:48.03DrZootI think nymbia is probably right, I will either need to code all the cooldowns in or use a library that will do it for me
12:48.30NargiddleyGetItemCooldown(itemid) works
12:48.44nymbiaoh hawt, that'll work
12:48.59nymbiacourse you gotta link the spellname to the itemid ;)
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12:49.17DrZoothrmm
12:49.18Funkeh`later
12:49.50nymbiaso you're still hardcoding something, even if it's just {["Hearthstone"] = 6948}
12:49.53nymbia(etc etc)
12:51.06Adirellenymbia : just use GetItemInfo("Heathstone") => http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo
12:51.21Nargiddleyspell name isnt always the same as item name
12:51.43nymbiaAdirelle: yeah, but my concern there is that the name doesnt match for potions and healthstones
12:52.15Adirelletoo bad
12:52.18Ominoushmm how do you make a tooltip for scanning in lua
12:52.49Nargiddleylook up gratuity, lib for tooltip scanning
12:54.11CIA-1703jncl * r24041 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Added support for Prat - Thanks SoLoR
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13:00.27Tsai|Stickyhi @all
13:01.13Tsai|Stickydid somebody know about the problems to view combopoints in AG_ Unitframes?
13:01.34[Ammo]I see them just fnie
13:01.37[Ammo]what is the problem?
13:02.05Tsai|Stickyafter the last releaseupdate i see no combopoints in Target frame
13:02.29[Ammo]hmm I saw then fine last night, (latest SVN at that point)
13:02.32Tsai|Stickyi added [combos] to custom commands but it doesnt works
13:03.01Tsai|Stickyhmm, i updated aguf with ace updater
13:04.28Tsai|Stickyread something in the Bugtracker, im not alone with this problem
13:04.35[nd]maybe an localization error - what language?
13:04.41Tsai|Stickygerman
13:04.42Ominousdoes a poison count as consumable?
13:04.51Tsai|Stickyplay a druid
13:05.15Tsai|Stickygot combos in cat
13:05.30nymbianot anymore you don't! ;)
13:05.40Tsai|Sticky^^ k, thts right :)
13:06.17Tsai|Stickyok, i will try to update and test it again
13:09.19snurrehttp://www.shoutfile.com/v/gSfSsCpR/Why_People_Believe_Americans_Are_Stupid
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13:13.15Stephmwsnurre: old news ;-)
13:17.23malifaecan someone explain why i now have profiles for Char - RealmName and Char of RealmName in my saved variables now, its blowing up my ui? =/
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13:19.11kenlyricmalifae: is it every mod? I noticed that with SCT at least, but that's the only mod I have that doesn't have a default profile.
13:19.37kenlyric*though I wish it did*
13:19.41malifaewell im just looking at fubar now, i updated yesterday and now all my profiles are screwed up
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13:20.05malifae["currentProfile"] = {
13:20.05malifae["Malifae of Laughing Skull"] = "char",
13:20.05malifae["Malifae - Laughing Skull"] = "char",
13:20.13malifaeis what im seeing
13:20.44malifaebut yea SCT is doing it too
13:21.10kenlyricmy guess is that they changed the way profiles are named.
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13:21.47malifaeyep, just not sure how to fix it
13:22.18kenlyricit didn't really break anything for me (since I don't use char profile).
13:22.35malifaei dont use default at all, so it broke everything =/
13:22.42kenlyricin SCT, it just meant I had to load the old profile name once, and then the new profile had those settings.
13:23.00malifaei tried loading default and copying my char, but it doesnt work
13:23.12malifaeits grabbing the wrong one
13:24.38kenlyricyuck.
13:26.05kenlyrichmmm.. the REalm profiles still have "-".
13:26.21malifaei think the dash is the right one
13:26.28malifaeerr the new one
13:26.28kenlyricI'm hoping there was a good reason behind this change. Seems pretty arbitrary.
13:26.43kenlyricoh, yeah I guess it is.
13:27.51kenlyricstrange, fubar shows "char of realm" for my char profiles, (but i don't use them)
13:29.09malifaefubar has both the - and of profiles set as my current
13:29.26malifaewhich isnt working out too well for me
13:29.29kenlyricand you can't make it be one or the other?
13:29.50malifaeno you cant choose which one to select, you can only choose char
13:30.04malifaebut something is goofy
13:30.57kenlyricdo you get the option for realm or class profiles too?
13:31.11malifaeyeah
13:35.01kenlyricwell, I think i've exhausted my troubleshooting skills. Might have to wait for one of the Ace devs to wake up, or make a screenshot and ask on the forums. Oh, and make sure you've updated to make sure you didn't get some sort of in-progress change.
13:35.15kenlyricOr you could try manually deleting the bogus parts of the profile out of the SV
13:35.24kenlyric(which is what I did with SCT)
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13:35.42malifaeim editing my saved variables to remove the old naming convention from current profile and renaming the old one to new convention
13:35.50sylvanaarkenlyric: yeah realm profiles are " - " now
13:36.00malifaeis there an easy way to fix it?
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13:38.17sylvanaar["currentProfile"] = {
13:38.17sylvanaar["Grubern of Darkspear"] = "char",
13:38.17sylvanaar["Sylvaan of Proudmoore"] = "char",
13:38.17sylvanaar},
13:38.32sylvanaar["char/Sylvaan of Proudmoore"] = "char",
13:38.38malifae08:20 < malifae> I["currentProfile"] = {
13:38.38malifae08:20 < malifae> II["Malifae of Laughing Skull"] = "char",
13:38.38malifae08:20 < malifae> II["Malifae - Laughing Skull"] = "char",
13:38.48sylvanaar["char/Sylvaan of Proudmoore"] ,
13:38.51malifaeis what im getting, the new and old naming is showing
13:38.55sylvanaarso
13:39.05sylvanaar["currentProfile"] = {
13:39.15sylvanaar["char/Sylvaan - Proudmoore"] ,
13:39.22anenigmaheh, my hunter is still bugged.  has been for a year now. he permanently has 'track beasts' up, can't get rid of it, and also has a 2nd tracking available (currently undead)
13:39.23sylvanaar= char
13:39.35kenlyricanenigma: lol
13:39.37malifaeyea, im just editing the SV like that
13:39.59sylvanaarermm
13:40.01kenlyricstill seems strange that you can't just load the old profile as the new one.
13:40.04sylvanaar["currentProfile"] = {
13:40.16sylvanaar["Sylvaan - Proudmoore"] char ,
13:40.20kenlyricI'm hoping there was a really really good reason to just rename profiles :)
13:40.32sylvanaar["char/Sylvaan - Proudmoore"]
13:40.36sylvanaardata
13:41.04malifaesylvanaar: thats what im fixing by hand, just not fun with over 100 addons and 4 chars :P
13:41.24sylvanaarregex
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13:41.42Elkanosylvanaar, Prat isn't coloring friend/guild 'come online' messages by level/class for me anymore :/
13:41.52sylvanaarElkano: i know
13:42.07malifae*breaks out vi*
13:44.15kenlyricI'm not looking forward to the day I need to have a mod use a char profile :)
13:44.34sylvanaarElkano: will you test this change
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13:45.50CIA-1703sylvanaar * r24042 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Use Prat_FrameMessage to color player links
13:47.48sylvanaaralmost all the mods attached to fubar switch profiles together - some people use em some dont
13:48.10malifaeoh ok
13:49.11aE|neXteruh, Grid in Curse, but _not_ from maia or pasta...
13:49.19malifaelame
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13:50.44DrZoothrmm, BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN doesnt seem to have an arg1 associated with it
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13:52.02mexicaanHi, i've downloaded KC_Items .95 from .wowace.com/files/, however i get in addon list it says: dependencies missing: Ace, AceGUI. How can if xhtis?
13:52.23malifaemexicaan: get Ace and AceGUI too
13:53.00CIA-1703sylvanaar * r24044 10Prat/modules/ (PlayerNames.lua Timestamps.lua): Prat: Use Prat_FrameMessage + Correct method names
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13:56.07mexicaanok...  why doesnt it use ace2?
13:56.48Neeblerold addon
13:56.51kenlyricit's not been updated for ace2. it's being worked on though.
13:57.03kenlyricerrr, Ace2 version being worked on.
13:57.32kenlyricit still works very well.
13:58.26DrZootcan anyone think of a reason why BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN wouldnt be providing an arg1? the wowwiki docs say that it should send the conatiner id of the item which needs its cooldown updated
13:59.28AdirelleDrZoot : "function myaddon:BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN(arg1)" or "function myaddon:BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN()" ?
13:59.38vhaarrDrZoot: a lot of events trigger without arguments, and wowwiki is often wrong
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14:00.48DrZootAdirelle, the second one
14:00.54DrZootvhaarr, ahh kk
14:01.16vhaarrAdirelle: He's not required to declare arg1-9.
14:02.05DrZootso basically the only way to really use that event would be to keep track of all the cooldowns for items and then when that event is recieved rescan all the bags and compare to your record?
14:02.18Adirellevhaar : i'm not sure arg1-9 are still filled
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14:03.03Adirelleand using globals to hold function parameter values is something I would avoir rely on
14:03.16Adirelles/avoir rely on/avoid to rely on/
14:03.54DrZootwell im not really using globals to hold function params, I was just under the impression that was the way that events worked
14:04.11JoshBorkethey used to be
14:04.17Adirelleyes, this is the way blizzard implemented them
14:04.22JoshBorkenow they will also be passed by function values
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14:04.48DrZootwill also be passed as function values or will only be passed as function values?
14:05.36krkaalso
14:05.53Adirellein brief : just use event handler of the form "EVENT_NAME(arg1, arg2)" to be safe with it
14:06.30AdirelleAceEvent will take care of putting values into the right places
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14:06.55Daemonaa little offtopic, if i wanted to equip a weapon, cast a spell and then re-equip another item how would i do that? /equip <item> /castsequence <spellname>, /quip <item> does all but equip the 2nd item at the end :/
14:06.57Adirelleand... you will even be able to call your function like a regular function...
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14:08.26JoshBorkeDaemona: /equip <item> /cast <spell> /equip <item>
14:08.34Adirellein fact, I suppose Blizzard made use of globals because lua 5.0 was missing the varargs construct
14:08.36Daemonaerhm no
14:08.40JoshBorkeexcept it will equip the second item
14:08.57krkano Adirelle
14:08.58Daemonai want to cast the spell under the effect of item1
14:09.07evlAnyone know if the UIOptions frame is triggered after addons have loaded?
14:09.09Daemonaand after the spellcast equip item2
14:09.09krkait was mostly because blizzard were new to lua, afaik
14:09.25Adirellekrka: lol
14:09.39krkano wait.. it was because chunks didn't have access to variables
14:09.50NightHawkTheSaneDaemona, could try "/castsequence Item1, Spell, Item2" would require 3 key presses, though.
14:09.53Adirellechunks ?
14:10.02krkalike <script>CHUNK</script>
14:10.17Adirelleoh, no arg you mean ?
14:10.17krkaCHUNK compiles to a function, but without access to variables in lua 5.0
14:10.17krkaafaik
14:10.32krkaerr, access to parameters
14:11.05DaemonaNightHawkTheSane thats why i tried it with a /use item1 /castsequence spell, use item2 to have only 2 keypresses ;)
14:11.05Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/design1.jpg
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14:11.06Adirellethat a good explanation, and is it still the case in lua5.1
14:11.11NightHawkTheSaneyeah, you could probably tweak it down to 2 keypresses if you messed around, but i doubt you could get it to one.
14:11.14JoshBorkeMikma: not bad
14:11.23Healthkrka is clearly a n00b
14:11.27krkanot really Adirelle
14:11.29JoshBorkeclearly
14:11.43Daemona2 is fine, but as i noted above, it only works till i hit the key a second time for the equip of item2
14:11.45krkayou can do <script>local arg1, arg2, arg3 = ...</script>
14:11.47JoshBorkeMikma: i see no chat frames.  however do you communicate?
14:12.03Adirellebtw, after that, dev were too lazy to do things like <onevent>myhandler(arg1, arg2,arg3,arg4,arg5,arg6,arg7,arg8,arg9)</onevent>, they just used the globals...
14:12.17NightHawkTheSaneOther people aren't worth talking obviously. :P
14:12.20krkayeah
14:12.30krkalots of weird stuff in the blizzard lua code tbh
14:12.30Adirelledoh, i meant "is it still the case in lua 5.1 ?" ("
14:12.44MikmaJoshBorke: Background set to 0% :) it's there on the left side of actionbars
14:12.45Adirelles/("/("?" missing, that was a question)/
14:13.04krkaah... yes and no
14:13.11CIA-1703shiftos * r24046 10Prat/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Prat: updated some esES (the ones that were causing bugs), left the rest by now
14:13.22krkathe globals are still supported, but blizzard also passes args as parameters
14:13.49JoshBorkeand globals are also reset every new function call
14:13.55JoshBorketo avoid people overwriting them
14:14.17krkai wish blizzard would just unsupport them
14:14.26Adirelleand the :setscript method allows to catch them, doesn't it ?
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14:14.33krkabut they have their own legacy code that they dont want to rewrite :P
14:14.38JoshBorkeexactly krka :P
14:14.39krkaAdirelle: of course
14:14.45JoshBorkeyou should take some time and rewrite it for them :P
14:15.06krkai don't care quite that much
14:15.29Adirelleusing globals this way is so evil...
14:15.37JoshBorkethen don't?
14:16.09Adirellebut years ago some operating systems used to... and system calls weren't reentrant
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14:16.38krkano one is disagreeing :P
14:16.54Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/design2.jpg
14:17.15krkanot sure if i would have done it any differently from blizzard though
14:17.21JoshBorkebtw mikma, I totally stole your minimap texture long ago because it is so wicked awesome
14:17.23krkasince it was lua 5.0
14:17.26AdirelleI won't ever speak of passing function args in fixed memory places before calling the OS entry
14:17.34Adirelleerm, in fact I did
14:17.34MikmaJoshBorke: good :) i'm happy that you like it
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14:18.39syerenErmm...
14:18.43syerenWhy did Prat stop being useful?
14:19.07krkai probably would have done it like this: <script>CHUNK</script> --> "function(arg1, arg2, arg3) return (function() " .. CHUNK .. " end)() end"
14:19.19krkanot sure that's more or less of a hack :P
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14:19.44JoshBorkebye all
14:19.49MikmaJoshBorke: that's why i share the texture, so people can use it if they like it heh
14:19.55JoshBorkebtw mikma, i liked the first one better
14:20.05JoshBorkebut that's because I hate tiny buttons
14:20.26MikmaJoshBorke: the buttons aren't for clicking :) the big bar swaps to them with shift/ctrl
14:20.35MikmaJoshBorke: they are just to see the skills in the bars
14:20.46Mikmanow i'm making a design 3
14:20.56sylvanaarsyeren: you gonna stick with that
14:21.01JoshBorkehm, so the tiny buttons represent 2 other bars...
14:21.21Mikmaoh btw, Bartender Bar5 is bigger than Bar6
14:21.34Adirellekrka, properly escaping the inner string could be tricky
14:21.44JoshBorkelol
14:22.21JoshBorkeit's no problem for krka, he wrote FAIAP!
14:22.42sylvanaar_bugz
14:22.49sylvanaar~bugz
14:22.51purlextra, extra, read all about it, bugz is "Does this happen on the lastest version? What version are you using?"
14:22.58sylvanaar~luaser
14:22.59purlit has been said that luaser is "Just tell me what i want to know so I dont have to waste my time, just yours"
14:23.04kenlyricis there another option besides stance changes to make bartender switch from one bar to another permanently?
14:23.04Adirelleer... why "function(arg1, arg2, arg3) return (function() " .. CHUNK .. " end)() end" and not "function(arg1, arg2, arg3) " .. CHUNK .. " end"
14:23.30krkahmm
14:23.38pahvirshift+scroll is enough for me
14:23.41krkai don't remember why i did it like that :
14:23.42Adirellekenlyric : i use shift+mousewheel, but it only it shifts the first bar
14:23.55Adirelles/only it/only/
14:23.58JoshBorkekenlyric: i use shift+<number>
14:23.58kenlyriccan you make it shift to a specific bar?
14:24.04JoshBorkefor the first bar
14:24.10krkayou're right, i have no reason for that
14:24.26krkaactually.... i got it backwards
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14:24.50kenlyricJoshBorke: shift make it go to the other bar, but only temporarilty. I'll try the shift-wheelup to see if it works.
14:25.10syerensylvanaar, I Just realised you released 2.0 over night :p
14:25.16syerenI have some half finished version ;p
14:25.38Adirellekenlyric: i think shift+wheelup is working on lastest version
14:25.43JoshBorkekenlyric: it depends on the bar-paging you haev set up
14:25.59JoshBorkei use shift+<num> and it permanently shifts to page 1-6
14:26.42Adirelleis there a setting to change which bar will be shifted ?
14:26.43JoshBorkeyou have to set the shift-<num> for the blizzard page thing in keybindings
14:26.48JoshBorkeno
14:26.54JoshBorkenot to my knowledge anyway
14:26.56krka"function() return function(arg1, arg2, arg3) " .. escapeAndPad(CHUNK) .. " end"
14:27.07sylvanaarsyeren: yes been very busy
14:27.10JoshBorkeit works for me because i use buttons 1-12
14:27.17Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/design3.jpg and http://wow.reaktio.net/design4.jpg
14:27.19krkathen from C use lua_call(loadstring(s))
14:27.30krka(after having pushed the variables)
14:27.42Adirellekrka : er...
14:27.54krkaoops
14:28.03JoshBorkeMikma: i like design 1 best
14:28.09krka1) lua_loadstring(s)
14:28.10JoshBorkeanyway, i actually have to go to work now.  bye all
14:28.14krka2) call it, to get the function
14:28.16kenlyricwhat I need to do is macro all my bar 1 buttons.
14:28.16MikmaJoshBorke: i myself like design2 :O
14:28.21kenlyricthat would save me needing to shift.
14:28.22krka3) push variables
14:28.22MikmaOVERLOAD!
14:28.24krka4) call it
14:28.35kenlyricbecause the main problem is going from healing to doing damage.
14:28.41krkafor 5.0, obviously
14:28.59Adirellekrka: function compileChunk(CHUNK) return loadstring("function(arg1, arg2, arg3) " .. escapeAndPad(CHUNK) .. " end") end
14:29.34krkahmm... i messed up again, i only need the extra wrapper from _inside_ lua
14:29.40krkafrom c, i only need one
14:29.59krkapseudo-c-code follows
14:30.47krkaf = lua_loadstring("return function(arg1, arg2, arg3) " .. CHUNK .. " end");
14:30.53krkalua_call(f)
14:30.57krkaluah_push(arg1)
14:30.58krkaluah_push(arg2)
14:30.59krkaluah_push(arg3)
14:31.03krkalua_call()
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14:31.43Adirellethat will make f a event handler generator
14:31.57Adirelleso calling f, from C ou lua, would just generate a event hanlding for fixed args...
14:32.29Adirellewait I second, need to lookup lua manual :)
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14:33.14krkanote at that all this is meaningless in 5.1 :)
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14:33.26sylvanaarElkano always leaves whien i ask him to test a fix he asked for
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14:33.27CIA-17<PROTECTED>
14:33.31Adirelleyes, we are just debating for the beauty of it :)
14:33.38krkahttp://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2005-05/msg00058.html
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14:34.31sylvanaarits a stack machine
14:35.34krkaaren't we all
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14:39.10sylvanaarwell, not too many death threats or irate tells - so far so good
14:39.49Adirellekrka : okay, after some reading of the C interface, your c pseudo-code makes sense :)
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14:41.44Adirellethe conclusion is that they could have make a wrapper to avoid globals
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14:53.03MidskogsHello everyone
14:53.12[dRaCo]does Click2Cast work with sRaidFrames?
14:53.47CIA-1703kagaro * r24052 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: Added support for vendors, quests, and trainers modules
14:53.50MidskogsI got a question, Bartender3 gives me a transparent boarder in middle of screen? how do i remove it. The actionbars was first over it. but when i removed the actionbar the transparent board was still there :S
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14:54.22[dRaCo]try unlocking the bars and see if you can hide it
14:55.06MidskogsI cant, ive tried to hide all bars to. but it still is there. and when i press unlock everything gets green and removeable but not the transparent boarder
14:56.26krkaAdirelle: yeah
14:56.55mjcMidskogs: if it doesn't turn green or red when you /bar lock, then it's *not* bartender
14:56.55krkawould probably have been better, since it would be a tail call, and there are only a constant amount of <script>
14:57.05mexicaanMidskogs: : maybe the bar isn't from bartender
14:57.29Midskogsyes, when i disable bartender in addons menu . and logg in its gone. when i put it back and logg in its back again
14:58.11Stephmwcould you do a screenshot?
14:58.12Midskogshttp://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2385/crycd5.jpg here it is
14:58.16Midskogsyeah i was doing that :P
14:58.19Stephmwah, nm :)
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14:58.41Stephmwlooks like an empty buttonbar
14:58.58kenlyricthanks for the advice on shift-scroll. Works perfectly for my needs.
15:00.03MidskogsThe thing is Stephmw, first when i d/l and installed it. it was 4 smaller bars inside of it. then i removed the bar and there it was :(
15:00.24Midskogssry for my english btw, but hope u guys understand me :P
15:00.49IndustrialLine 63 and 67; http://pastey.net/4734-1mtg
15:00.52Industrialhttp://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07021/WoWScrnShot_010807_155426.jpg
15:00.55Industriallooks like that
15:01.07Industrialproblem: not everything is bound right and the bindings dont even work
15:01.20Industrialworks fine with  /script SetBindingClick('1', 'myActionButton1')
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15:01.35steino_Industrial: wtf, a paladin!
15:01.38StephmwMidskogs: you're coming through clearly - not sure what would be causing it though - it's surprising that it's not reacting to /bar lock if it's a BT bar
15:01.41steino_shame on yoooo
15:01.53Industrialsteino_: im just having fun with some classes i never play til the xpac
15:02.07StephmwMidskogs: could you try going through the bars one by one in the BT menus and showing/hiding them?
15:02.17Industrialsteino_: paladin aint that bad tbh
15:02.20Midskogsive tried to hide all, but nothing
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15:03.10steino_Industrial: no, they're not bad at all :p
15:03.52mexicaanDoes Detox have clickable buttons for each unit in a raid/group, like smartdebuff? or only a live list ?
15:03.54Adirellemidskogs: several people here don't natively speak english
15:04.03Midskogs:P
15:04.37CIA-1703ag * r24053 10ag_UnitFrames/ (9 files):
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15:05.50CIA-1703phyber * r24054 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua RepairCost.lua):
15:05.50CIA-17Fizzle:
15:05.50CIA-17- RepairCost.lua: This will become a small module that displays the current repair cost somewhere in the CharacterFrame.
15:05.50CIA-17- Core.lua: Moved a lot of commented out code into RepairCost.lua.
15:05.58Adirelleweren't detox an ace'd decursive ?
15:06.27axxoit has the functionallity
15:06.30axxowell had
15:07.36Adirelleactually, you have to use and configure both grid and clique (or an mouseover macro) to get the ace equivalent to smartdebuff, or am I wrong ?
15:07.39renchapag`: is it possible to display the mana bar when in cat/bear form with aguf ?
15:08.02Adirelles/an mo/a mo/
15:08.22HjalteAdirelle: Yes, but you will still have a solution far superior imo
15:10.48Adirelledoes it invovle using only ace addons ?
15:11.13Josh_Borkemorning!
15:12.02DeviadCan anyone tell me why detox's frame disappears?
15:12.04AdirelleJosh_Borke: does it stand for "good morning !" or "it is morning there"
15:12.17HjalteAdirelle: Yes, i meant using grid and a clickcast addon :)
15:12.19Health~goodmorning
15:12.26DeviadI tried to show and hide it with the "live list" command
15:12.29Deviadbut it doesn't work
15:12.29Josh_Borke~ugt
15:12.31purlrumour has it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
15:12.43Adirellehjalte : clique is a clickcast addon :p
15:12.46DeviadI mean either it is switched on or off it doesn't pop out...
15:12.53HjalteAdirelle: Clique is not aced ;)
15:13.16Adirellewoot, who lied to me ? :D
15:13.39HjalteAdirelle: It used to be. Use click2cast for an ace clickcast addon.
15:14.07AdirelleJosh_Borke : thx
15:14.10Midskogsany1 of u knows any other actionbars that looks like bartender? im sick of the boarder in my screen XD
15:14.33grollwhat is it one type to reset a macro?
15:15.01grolli cant seem to get it right and to lazy to look it up :P
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15:15.06HjalteMidskogs: Border in your screen?
15:15.11kagaromorning
15:15.32MidskogsHjalte that one http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2385/crycd5.jpg
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15:16.48HjalteHmm. Midskogs, have you tried unlocking all bartender3 frames, by shiftclicking the bartender3 icon on the minimap and then either disabling that border or making it red, thus hiding it?
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15:19.19grzesieqMikma: the petbar is perfect, thanks :)
15:19.36Mikmagrzesieq: well, wait for the new update lol
15:19.51MidskogsHjalte yes i have
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15:20.13HjalteCould anyone paste me the script for finding out what frame the mouse is over? :)
15:20.36MidskogsBut how to disable when i dont know its name :O. and when i unlock everything then it still dont turn into any color :/
15:21.42HjalteMidskogs: Maybe it's not bartender3 then
15:22.13Midskogsyes it is, since when i disable bartender in Addons list and logg in , then its gone. but when i able it again and logg in , then its there again :(
15:23.28HjalteHave you tried loading bartender3 as your only addon?
15:24.28MidskogsNope
15:24.36MidskogsIll try that now
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15:25.30Mikmagrzesieq: moo
15:25.41Mikmagrzesieq: http://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar.jpg :)
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15:29.03mjcMikma ?
15:29.57Mikmamjc: what?
15:30.08ag`_Mikma: use Ace you heretic
15:30.09ag`_:P
15:30.12deltronlol
15:30.18mjcMikma: what's that about
15:30.41MidskogsLoooL i did disable everything except Bartender, then i enabled all addons one by one and logged in and out. and it ended up that EEpanels was crashing with bartender
15:30.45Mikmaag`_: why would i need ace in mini-addon which i can do without libraries too? :O
15:30.50Mikmamjc: it's my new addon :P
15:30.50mjcdeltron: know of any decent emacs for windows ? default one sucks, and S[H]iTE isn't much better
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15:31.08ag`_Mikma: dongle is a library :P
15:31.11mjcMikma: mini action bars?
15:31.31Mikmaag`_: i know, and i still can do it without dongle if i want :)
15:31.38ag`_I know :P
15:31.46Mikmamjc: yes. simple addon that swaps the buttons with blizzard bars
15:31.55mjcah
15:31.57ag`_I'm just whining at you Mikma
15:32.12Mikmaag`_: i noticed and frankly, i don't care much :D
15:32.20ag`_you should, it's me
15:32.34Mikmathat's it, run away coward!
15:32.39ag`_meh
15:32.39grzesieqMikma: that's 0.3?
15:32.42ag`_:P
15:32.52Mikmagrzesieq: no, 0.4 i'm upping in a sec
15:32.52HjalteMikma: So i can't use bartender and your addon at the same time?
15:32.56grzesieqok :)
15:33.05ag`_anyway Mikma it doesn't have to use Ace libs to be on the SVN
15:33.33MidskogsBtw guys and girls, u know what the addon is called that put the small writing box on top of chat and not under chat?
15:33.35Mikmaag`_: yeah, i don't feel like having the need to upload it to svn heh
15:33.40Mikmagrzesieq: there ya go, 0.4 served
15:33.55ag`_so where are you going to upload it then? :P
15:34.07Mikmagrzesieq: if you don't like the minibuttons, disable the actionbars from Blizzard menu :D
15:34.07axxoMidskogs: prat can do it
15:34.13Midskogsahh ty axxo
15:34.16HjalteMidskogs: Prat has that feature. But it also has a lot of other chat features
15:34.19Mikmaag`_: well i'll just keep it on my "server" for now
15:34.21Adirellemidskogs : part can do it, but it is quite a "big" addon
15:34.25Midskogsnice ill check it out
15:34.26Adirelles/part/prat/
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15:34.59Mikmagrzesieq: alt-pagins has been disabled and i need to find a wiser way of doing the scale for the bars :P
15:35.01snurreerrm, why is Prat bugging me about petframe?
15:35.08ag`_Mikma: Okay. But if you plan on releasing it to the public sometime in a more official way, like on wowi, there's no reason not to put it on the SVN too
15:35.14snurreshouldnt it mind its own business?
15:35.17Mikmagrzesieq: if i can't find a way to scale them wisely, then i won't add a scale-option
15:35.42sylvanaarsnurre: its helping you
15:35.42KirkburnMikma, from that pic your gnome looks like it has a *massive* head :P
15:35.51Midskogshmm curse-gaming seems do be down
15:35.53mjcMikma: proportional scale ftw
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15:36.00MikmaKirkburn: it propably has. damn gnomes
15:36.10Mikmamjc: what does that mean then?
15:37.27grzesieqbtw, you've probably seen this, but http://itsmydickinabox.com/ :)
15:37.28Mikmaright now i use MultiBarBottomLeft:SetScale(MBDefault.Scale - 0.45) .. i propably need to do it with some math or so :P
15:37.43Mikmalike, scale - 40%
15:39.04grzesieqout of curiosity, why do you keep drain mana bound to 3?
15:39.25Mikmadon't know
15:40.29sylvanaari just dont get it sometimes, you can turn most of prat off, what make is big besides people repeating it, i should just make it small and strip out ll the aceoptions tables
15:41.53HjalteKirkburn: Clearfont2 makes the first item beneath the headline in my fubar panels appear bold.. You know anything about this?
15:42.17KirkburnAppears to be an effect of it being the 'title' element.
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15:42.34sylvanaarthat has been bugged for a awhile
15:43.51sylvanaarsnurre: if you want to no have prat help you with your per frame tainting uncheck the option.
15:44.22sylvanaarthat reminds me
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15:45.26Funkeh`hello again
15:46.50Mikmamjc: nvm i got it
15:46.55grzesieqMikma: I know I'm bitching about details now, but would it be possible to show s-F instead of SHIFT-F as the binding? :P
15:47.10Mikmagrzesieq: i have no idea about that one :)
15:47.21grzesieqdoenst matter much tho
15:47.29Midskogshey can any1 try to visit curse-gaming?
15:48.49Mikmagrzesieq: they propably can be swapped with the code in BT3 but i don't know how to put it in
15:49.39DrZootis there an ace library somewhere with item information in it? specifically what items share the same cooldowns etc
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15:50.38trollomathi there
15:50.51HjalteSylvanaar: Even though i've checked the lock pet action bar option, bugsack is still giving me a couple errors about it each fight. Making bugsack hide common addon error hides them though :)
15:51.02trollomatcould i get any support for cooldowntimers2 in here?
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15:52.40HjalteThrae: I don't think Vitalwatchs aggro system likes pets :)
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15:53.23Mikmagrzesieq: http://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar_Scaled.jpg
15:55.22Tornhoofplaying wow on a touchscreen?
15:55.49MikmaTornhoof: i wish :/ just showing my new megascale-code xD
15:56.12Tornhoofi once saw someone playing wow on a tablet pc
15:56.32Tornhoofusing a similar scaling and that mouse movement addon
15:56.52Mikmayeah Slouken's mousepad :)
15:57.02Tornhoofya that one
15:57.10Tornhoofand i think that old gesture addon too
15:57.23Tornhoofbut maybe that was windows
15:58.32[dRaCo]I need a movable castbar... and don't suggest oCB, doesn't work for me
15:58.45MikmaDIY
15:58.55[dRaCo]tell me how ;)
15:59.01MikmaRTFC
15:59.10Mikmasimple:
15:59.12Hjalte[dRaCo]: I havent tried it myself, but have you given cbripoff a try?
15:59.14Mikma1. create frame
15:59.22Mikma2. dock castbar to created frame
15:59.33Mikma3. save position of frame
15:59.46Mikma4. load saved position on PEW PEW
15:59.51Mikmaand you are done
15:59.58[dRaCo]cbr is just ocb, isnt it?
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16:00.23DrZootwhat about ecb
16:00.39[dRaCo]mikma: doesn't sound that hard... if only I knew lua ^^
16:00.44[dRaCo]ecb?
16:01.11Mikma[dRaCo]: well look at my addon for example: http://wow.reaktio.net/Mikma/Mikma/Mikcasting.lua
16:01.36DrZootwell if curse was up I would say go check out ecb there, but since its not youre going to have to wait :P
16:01.37Mikma[dRaCo]: there's perfect example of my castingbar, it's docked to a frame i have made and moved into the position i want it to be
16:02.35[dRaCo]he, great. exactly what I needed.
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16:04.32[dRaCo]does it work when I just load the lua?
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16:05.32Mikmayes if you remove the check from the bottom. and it's not "mousemovable"
16:05.53Mikmaoh sorry, you need to add the values from Mikma.lua in too
16:05.58Mikmaotherwise it won't work
16:06.27[dRaCo]the castx and casty stuff?
16:06.36MidskogsBtw how do i open prat without Fubar?
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16:06.58Mikmayeap
16:07.13[dRaCo]aight. thanks a lot :D
16:07.27CIA-1703drzoot * r24055 10/branches/Axon/ (Axon.lua Axon.xml AxonBar.lua AxonProvider.lua):
16:07.27CIA-17Axon:
16:07.27CIA-17- Removed bar drag handles. It was a bad idea.
16:07.27CIA-17- Added a prototype potion cooldown provider.
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16:09.17HjalteMidskogs: You should find it at your minimap
16:11.21TheKarnpurl, hi
16:11.22purlhello, thekarn
16:11.25MidskogsHjalte no prat button there
16:12.06HjalteInstall deucecommander from wowace.com/files - It'll gather most of your ace addons at your minimap or on fubar is you have a such
16:12.15Midskogsmy bad my bad, it had been disable in someway :P
16:12.23TheKarntry Prat:Show()
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16:12.38TheKarn/script Prat:Show()
16:12.50MidskogsIt is there now. thought WoW enable addons automativly but it hadent
16:13.53TheKarnah ok
16:14.13TheKarnand i'll correct myself, theres a chatcommand to enable the minimap button... /prat minimap
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16:24.52CIA-1703kagaro * r24056 10Cartographer_Vendors/INV_Misc_ElvenCoins.tga: Cartographer_Vendors: added a transparency icon
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16:27.42sylvanaarTheKarn: you need to detach it from the minimmap
16:27.52sylvanaaroh
16:27.59sylvanaarattach it shrug
16:28.52sylvanaaryou need fubarplugin , tablet, and dewdrop
16:29.43CIA-1703kagaro * r24058 10Cartographer_Trainers/INV_Misc_Book_03.tga: Cartographer_Trainers: added a transparency icon
16:31.11Adirellehjalte : deucecommander will gather all command options into *one* multilevel menu ?
16:31.15sylvanaarok, what should the default color of servers in the BG be
16:31.38HjalteAdirelle: Basically, yes. It will gather a lot of your ace addons in one menu :)
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16:32.04Adirelleit should save a lot of fubar space
16:33.19sylvanaarprat colors peoples names by class in the bgs -but not the server unless i make it
16:33.50Feldiasylvanaar, did you happen to get a chance to check out my bug report?
16:33.52Adirelle~x en fr shrug
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16:37.19Feldiaoh I see now that you already did
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16:48.57SarozWTF is wrong with SVN
16:49.02Sarozwhy the fuck can't I just get a god damn full update through
16:49.06Sarozso damn frustrating
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16:50.34CIA-1703beerke * r24059 10KingOfTheJungle/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
16:50.34CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
16:50.34CIA-17- Added Happiness Slider, setting it too happy should make button persistent, unless there is no pet (untested)
16:50.51DaemonaSaroz perhaps less swearing helps? :D
16:50.59AntiarcDear god.
16:50.59Antiarchttp://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stuffforpallyfs4.jpg
16:51.11AntiarcThat's just obsessive right there.
16:51.13Sarozventing -.-
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16:56.16bindion some screenshots people seem to be adjusting the grid width and height
16:56.26bindiis that possible somewhere? cause i can't rly see it in the options :p
16:56.51sylvanaarFeldia: i have seen them all
16:57.14Antiarcbindi: Yeah, there are options for the individual box width and height\
16:57.24AntiarcChanging them naturally changes the dimensions of the entire grid layout
16:57.33Adirellebindi : in cells submenu i think, maybe in advanced submenu
16:57.38bindihmm i'll keep searching then
16:57.49Feldiabindi:  Frame --> Advanced --> Frame width/height
16:57.56bindithanks :)
16:59.02sylvanaarFeldia: which one was yorus
16:59.17Feldiahttp://code.google.com/p/prat/issues/detail?id=15&can=1&q=
16:59.58Feldiathe debug info posted in comment #4 is the same as what I'm receiving
17:01.52SarozError: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default'  
17:01.55SarozError: Target path does not exist  
17:01.58Saroz/wrist
17:02.49Fisker-sooo 24000 GEC?
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17:05.19sylvanaarFeldia: i see why its happening
17:05.30sylvanaarsort of
17:05.49Feldiait's a fairly crippling issue, whatever it is
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17:06.51_neuron_is it just me or does AceOption type="group" with pass=true not work at all atm?
17:07.20sylvanaarwell, you can /leave 1
17:07.25sylvanaarthat will solve it
17:08.00Feldiai can't say for certain, but I believe there were more events triggering it
17:08.30sylvanaaror you can change you channel name for 1 to be something other than nil
17:08.52sylvanaarthats what is is right?
17:09.31FeldiaI'm unable to change the names for channel 1 / 2
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17:09.49sylvanaarthen just leave htem
17:09.54Feldiayea I left 1
17:09.55sylvanaarfor now
17:09.59Feldiaerror hasn't happened since
17:10.47sylvanaarits because they are being replaced and then the channel number is left and interpreted as a boolean
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17:11.14fatalblowWow
17:11.43Elkanosylvanaar, coloring in Prat still not working for 'come online' for me. (note that I have saving of cache over sessions turned off)
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17:12.57sylvanaarturn eventnames on, and tell me the event thats skipped
17:13.06sylvanaardddddd
17:13.09sylvanaarim on an alt
17:13.27CIA-1703ominous * r24060 10ItemEnchantApplication/ (. Core.lua ItemEnchantApplication.toc):
17:13.28CIA-17ItemEnchantApplication:
17:13.28CIA-17-added ace event + fixed toc
17:13.28CIA-17-only works with bartender3 and/or OneBag,
17:14.08kergothItemEnchantApplication?
17:14.29Elkanosylvanaar, CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM
17:14.49kergothkagaro|work: you planning on adding the schools of tbc fish to _fishing, like mudfish, pure water, etc?
17:15.12kagaro|workif someone supplies me with those names sure.. I hadnt found any to add them
17:15.37kagaro|workkergoth: you got a list of those nodes?
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17:16.14kergothnot offhand, i'll put one together though.  the only thing i wasnt sure about was the icon, i presume for the schools you're taking the icon for the fish you get out of them and fixing the edges to be transparent
17:16.44kagaro|workfor the most part yeah, the generic fish node icon is a net
17:16.44sylvanaarThats handled by the update i posted
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17:18.32sylvanaarcan you capture a split table for me and post it
17:18.36kergothkagaro|work: okay, i'll start gathering the names tonight when i get home.  my beta char's fishing isnt terribly high, but enough for the zones i'm leveling in, which is a start
17:18.53Elkanosplit table?
17:19.04kagaro|workmy toons fishing is 310 but I just havent seen any nodes so far
17:19.13kagaro|work<-- unlucky fisherman in outlands
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17:20.21kergothgrennon: thanks for that addon for alt-click to trade, was hoping someone would split that out :)
17:20.22KarlThePaganoh awesome... i'm crashing wow with ui code :P
17:20.29Ominoushey, say you have a range of number which is 1-16 how could you reverse the number eg if you had a 2 reverse to 15
17:20.57Elkanosylvanaar, and I'm running r24046
17:20.57Adirelle17-N ?
17:21.17AdirelleKarlThePagan: try infinite loop...
17:21.22KarlThePaganyea must be
17:21.34Sarozis there a good CT_RaidTracker alternative?
17:21.47KarlThePagantime for unit tests
17:21.54Matrix110depends what you want Saroz
17:22.04CIA-1703ag * r24061 10ag_UnitFrames/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
17:22.04CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
17:22.04CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:22.07Matrix110if you use it for exporting in eqdkp there isnt really
17:22.16SarozI do that aswell ye
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17:22.31beerkeag`_, inviting in combat locks that pllayer frame and i can't select that player anymore
17:22.33Matrix110for just logging attendance there are other tools though
17:22.36KarlThePaganfound... lol
17:22.39Mikmagrzesieq: jelp!
17:22.51AdirelleKarlThePagan: and ?
17:22.58kergothOminous: for i=16,1,-1 do ...
17:22.58ag`_yeah beerke it's an attribute problem
17:23.19KarlThePaganyup failure to increment var in a loop
17:23.36AdirelleKarlThePagan: failed or forgot ? :D
17:23.43KarlThePagan;)
17:24.05ag`_hay guys, how expensive is SetWidth?
17:24.14ag`_I need to know
17:24.28Adirellein my early *nix pratical, we had to build a lit C program which should fork itself 5 times
17:25.07Adirellethat were on processorless terminals connected to only one server.
17:25.07KarlThePaganhilarity ensues?
17:25.10KarlThePaganforkbomb
17:25.15Adirelleyep...
17:25.29Adirellelots of people didn't figure out where to put the loop increment...
17:25.30KarlThePaganhooray for ulimit!
17:25.50Adirelleu-what ? :D
17:25.56KarlThePagan;)
17:26.24johAnyone got some hot tips on how to resolve latency issues? (I know this isn't the place to ask so shout at me if I'm being rude :P)
17:26.41CIA-1703kagaro * r24062 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: added highland mixed school node
17:27.41Dekunajoh: get a new internet connection
17:28.01MikmaDruid, Warrior, and Rogue has Stancebar?
17:28.20Dekunapaladin too i think
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17:30.56Ordogwow a commit for one fish shool ?
17:31.08Ordog<3 bleeding edge
17:31.09CIA-1703kagaro * r24063 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: added Pure Water node
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17:31.36johDekuna: Heh, the owner of the apartment might not like that :P
17:31.45Mikmawhat's the texturename of PetActionBarFrame?
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17:32.56AdirelleOrdog : lol, another one
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17:33.08Adirellesoon: the line-by-line commit ;)
17:33.28Adirelle(warning : early versions of a new addon maybe quite unstable)
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17:34.41grzesieqwriting programs in pascal is like shooting something in your foot :(
17:34.41MoonWolf~lazy
17:34.43purlWell, we don't service lazy people, sorry.
17:34.57Antiarcgrzesieq: why do you say that?
17:35.06AntiarcWe use Delphi in house, which is basically object pascal
17:35.13AntiarcIt's not my favorite language, but it's not too bad.
17:35.22grzesieqit's at least object
17:35.50grzesieqthe idea of for with undefinable step is retarded
17:36.06AntiarcHeh. That does annoy me, yes.
17:36.18Adirellewhat's that ?
17:36.26Adirelleoh
17:36.29MoonWolf~lazy
17:36.31purlextra, extra, read all about it, lazy is "<reply>Hard work my pay of later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Working hard at hardly working!"
17:36.31Adirellejust understood
17:36.47MoonWolf~lazy
17:36.48purli guess lazy is "Hard work my pay of later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Working hard at hardly working!"
17:36.51grzesieqand checking if the entered data matches variable type is really stupid
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17:41.10Antiarcgrzesieq: explain?
17:41.17Mikmagrzesieq: help meeeee
17:41.20grzesieqsec
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17:41.58grzesieqAntiarc: need to {$I-} readln, and then check IOResult
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17:42.00grzesieqMikma: yes?
17:42.25Mikmagrzesieq: hmm, i was gonna ask about stancebar but i'm not gonna support classes with stances :D
17:42.31grzesieqhehe
17:42.36grzesieqplease do :(
17:42.52Mikmabut, if i ever will do it, where shall i place it? :O
17:42.57grzesieqjust repalce petbar with stancebar, that's it
17:43.11grzesieqthere's no class with both petbar and stancebar afaik :P
17:43.13Mikmagrzesieq: http://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar_Scaled.jpg -> scale can be changed now and it still works perfectly
17:43.19kagaro|workwell theres 2 kergoth I found on the beta boards for fish noes
17:43.22kagaro|work*nodes
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17:43.25Mikmagrzesieq: druid with gnomish mindcontrol cap?
17:43.30grzesieq...
17:43.37grzesieqdont support them :P
17:43.54grzesieqwoot, looks really nice
17:44.26grzesieqbtw, anyone got an idea how to get the "neutral" color in pascal?
17:44.27MikmaDekuna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyl9FMHRfOE
17:44.44grzesieq(from crt)
17:44.55DekunaMikma: lol i've seen it
17:45.38kenlyricriding to the darkmoon faire is such a pain. I wonder how horde does it, they have so much farther to go.
17:46.07AntiarcEh?
17:46.13AntiarcIt's not THAT bad.
17:47.29grzesieqMikma: I'm semi-afk, but lemme know when there's a new version to test :P
17:47.52Mikmagrzesieq: well, you have a pet?
17:48.00grzesieqI'm a lock :)
17:48.13Mikmawell, put your pet on stay and run far away
17:48.16Mikmalook what happens :P
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17:49.18ravagernlhey people, does anyone know a fubar plugin for handling windfury stats?
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17:50.15GagorianAnyone know how fun it is to have a 120gb hard disk fail on you?
17:50.19GagorianAll data lost :(
17:50.32AntiarcGah
17:50.33AntiarcThat sucks.
17:50.35kenlyricYes, yes I do.
17:50.36AntiarcBeen there.
17:50.50Mikmawell, my 40GB hdd from this iBook failed too
17:50.59Gagorian2 year old drive, still warranty left but that's hardly any consolidation
17:51.07grzesieqmy 60 gig from powerbook died once too
17:51.10Mikmai had stored alot of stuff in there, including coded addons etc heh
17:51.10ravagernlomg good thing there is something as svn
17:51.12malrethi solve that problem by never using a computer
17:51.31Gagorianravagernl: Yeah, I only lost a few lines of code :)
17:52.05ravagernlI really wouldnt want to switch out drdamage for TC2 again :/
17:52.22Gagorianhaha
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17:55.03bindiwhen i hover over my chat tabs they "highlight" making their transparency not 0% anymore, any possibility to remove that?
17:56.14KirkburnEU have annouced 2.0.3 for wednesday
17:56.30AntiarcAwesome.
17:56.35AntiarcSo US gets it Tuesday, likely.
17:56.35ravagernlwanna bet they mess things up again
17:56.44ravagernldamn you usérs
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17:56.49ravagernlus'ers :P
17:56.56kenlyricas long as they mess up the mount price down 300g :)
17:57.00AntiarcI'm no us'er! I'm a usian!
17:57.19KirkburnNA NA NA! ;)
17:57.21kenlyricusican
17:57.26ravagernl:o giev epic riding skill for 300g :P
17:57.32AntiarcNo, it's -300h
17:57.35Antiarc-300g
17:57.36Ordogmy hardrive is currently making dying sounds ...
17:57.41AntiarcIt's down to 600g total before discounts
17:57.47Ordoghas trouble to get up in the morning
17:57.47AntiarcAlso, gief new wound poison please
17:57.52kenlyric600g instead of 900 (540g instead of 810g)
17:57.52Ordogchokes all day
17:57.57Ordogi think it got leukemia
17:57.59Antiarc-10% healing, stacks 5 times,  41% apply rate, 40% dispell resist. Yes please.
17:58.00ravagernlgood
17:58.10kergoth"Helium balloon. The balloon was attached to a weight. The address was written on the balloon with magic marker; no postage was affixed. Our operative argued strongly that he should be charged a negative postage and refunded the postal fees, because the transport airplane would actually be lighter as a result of our postal item."
17:58.11Ordogor propably its just getting old ...
17:58.13ravagernlthats awesome
17:58.15SoLoRag`_ latest change made this: http://freeweb.siol.net/mih06jan/agbug.jpg
17:58.17kenlyricno, I think it's just 600g for the riding skill.. mounts are still 100g, aren't they?
17:58.21AntiarcYes
17:58.35AntiarcBut now it's 700g before discounts, rather than 1000g.
17:58.36kenlyrici'm gonna get the pvp mount instead. save some cash.
17:58.45GagorianOrdog make backups before it's too late
17:58.49Gagorian!
17:58.52kenlyricalso because I only have 550 :)
17:58.57ravagernlpvp mount ftw
17:59.29Ordogmounts are 6g
17:59.30CIA-1703kagaro * r24064 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Fishing: added some new fish node graphics for TBC
17:59.35ravagernldoes anyone know an addon for windfury stats? like windfuryFu?
17:59.41ravagernlCan't find it
17:59.47Ordogdamn you windfury
17:59.54Ordogyes, thats an addon name
18:00.01AntiarcAny FuBar plugin for that had better be named winFuRy.
18:00.07Ordogoh no its just damn windfury
18:00.18Ordogdefinately Antiarc
18:00.23ravagernl:/ Im sure ive seen a fubar plugin for windfury
18:00.32Tornhoofthere is non
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18:00.34mjcmy friend's lock has 225,000 honor.
18:00.34Tornhoofnone
18:00.35Ordognaming policy cant be taken seriously enough!
18:00.42AntiarcThat's a lot of honor.
18:00.48ravagernl<PROTECTED>
18:00.57Tornhoofno i won't write one
18:01.01ravagernl:P
18:01.07Tornhoofi'm adding up them in realtime in my head
18:01.09Tornhoofjust to keep sane
18:01.21bindimjc isn't honor capped at 50k?
18:01.22AntiarcI do the same with Mutilate
18:01.34Ordogerm, you mean you dont want tv and do your homework when playing wow?
18:02.08kergothi just rely on the event consolodation built into msbt, personally, but i've seen more than one windfury fubar plugin
18:02.51Ordogi mean ... i was really onto wow when i got my surround headphones and enabled sound on character for a few weeks .. but thats gonna fade soon -.-
18:03.00ravagernlsee i told you, there _were_ fuubar plugs for windfury
18:03.07ravagernlfubar*
18:03.12Ordogomg did you ever hear a shadow bolt fling just by your head?
18:03.37Ordogor did you realise theres a silent but strong thunder effect when using chain lightning?
18:03.55Ordogtotally love it!
18:03.55kenlyricwhy would you turn off sound on character?
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18:04.31Ordogisnt it disabled by default?
18:04.35kenlyricis it really?
18:04.39nae-lapIt's enabled I think
18:04.43AntiarcI think it's enabled.
18:04.47kenlyricdoesn't seem like something I'd fiddle with on a new install.
18:04.47ravagernlwoot I found the plugin http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4873-FuBar-WindFuryFu.html
18:04.47Ordogi had it disabled for ... the first year i played wow
18:04.57Ordogmissed 40% of the quality i guess ^^
18:04.57ravagernlbut its not updated...
18:05.10AntiarcI have a 5.1 surround system, but I can't turn it up. Apartments FTL :(
18:05.18dafireCurney ?
18:05.20kenlyricooh, sound enabled in background mode... is that a new option?
18:05.28nae-lapyup
18:05.29nae-lapThat's new
18:05.30AntiarcOoh.
18:05.31Ordogyes it is
18:05.33kenlyricI have 5.1 surround headphones at work. Very nice.
18:05.35AntiarcI need to turn that on
18:05.43kenlyricwow, that's really nice for fishing :)
18:05.48AntiarcI like to code between BG queues, and I sometimes miss my queue call-up.
18:05.54kenlyriccast, do something else, come back and reel in :)
18:06.16kenlyricoh yeah, weill be really nice for queues too.
18:06.23Ordogdid some of you use that epl tower honor grind exploit?
18:06.27kenlyricwish I could run san andreas or hl2 at the same time as wow..
18:06.27Antiarceh?
18:06.28Ordogdoes it still work?
18:07.18ravagernlantiarc: make sure the option background sound is enabled :)
18:07.22mjckenlyric: theoretically possible
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18:08.06Ordogally in > tower unoccupied > ally out > you in > 190 honor > goto 1 that can be done in 16 seconds theoretically but 20 with moving time
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18:08.24Ordogsuppose beeing horde
18:09.03Ordogany ally on destromath on for testing? *g*
18:09.48kenlyricmjc: maybe on a better computer :)
18:11.56Pkekyois FuBar_TopScoreFu supposed to ignore my AutoShot?
18:13.32mjckenlyric: RAM and some custom things *eg*
18:14.01kergothkenlyric: yea, sound in background with fishping is awesome. i'm always irc'ing and stuff while fishing.  gotta make sure the system isnt too loaded down though, wouldnt want the alt-tab to take too long :)
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18:15.59ThorgardI'm running windowed+full screen so the alt+tabbing instant. Sure, I lose some FPS, but I alt+tab out of the game so often it's worth it.
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18:17.00kergothyeah, that is nice
18:17.49KarlThePagani really like it
18:18.06KarlThePaganin windows vista there's not a performance drop for it that I can notice
18:18.07kenlyricI nevery play games full screen, unless they have no option.
18:18.19kenlyriclike san andreas, has no option.
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18:19.18ravagernllmao, beauty isn't from the "outside", but from photoshop
18:19.37mjchaha
18:20.22Mikmagrzesieq: http://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar-0.4.1.zip
18:21.41ravagernlcan the actionbars be moved mikma?
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18:21.57Mikmaravagernl: no.
18:21.58BarbanusI have 2 monitors at home, irc on one, wow on the other (in windowed, full screen mode)
18:22.17dafireif you check benchmarks vista is slower then xp .9
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18:22.56CIA-1703dafire * r24065 10Prat/modules/ (5 files): Prat: removing bugging improper translations in deDE
18:24.35kergothi cnat try vista, no drivers for my raid controller yet
18:24.36kergothheh
18:29.21ThorgardVista scares me. ;P
18:30.12mjchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RedLyae4b2s NSFW
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18:32.11Thorgardmjc, aerr.
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18:33.30CIA-1703dafire * r24066 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: added two missing comma :)
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18:35.50CIA-1703kagaro * r24067 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Fishing: Added the rest of TBC nodes . thanks http://www.capsu.org/wow/the_burning_crusade.html extreme anglin site
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18:37.36kergothkagaro|work: nice :)
18:37.49kagaro|workanglin site had them all listed
18:41.17grennonwow, i wish i had taintchecker in college
18:41.31grennonoh wait, this mod doesnt do what i thought
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18:46.54Chinkukagaro|work, that release of cart_fishing seems to have several problems, throwing bugs in ll. 296 & 315 with "missing }" errors
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18:47.30Chinkuah, no, disregard the one at 296, only 315.
18:47.43ChinkuI let swatter fool me ;-)
18:47.56kagaro|workgot it
18:47.58Fisker-http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/muksuluuri.swf <-deadly throw in TBC
18:48.04dafirei fixed the first two ,9
18:48.16Chinku:-)
18:48.30CIA-1703kagaro * r24068 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: drycode typo fix
18:48.34kagaro|workdrycoding ftl
18:48.52Fisker-ftl?
18:49.38Feldiafor the loss
18:49.39vinauris there a way to hook onto a frame's OnClick event? like maybe FrameName:OnClick() ?
18:49.41Daemonaanyone know an equip compare addon like eqcompare?
18:49.50krkafor the lord
18:49.58krkachristians say FTL a log
18:50.00Daemonagotta get rid of eqcompare... those errors are gettingon my nerves :/
18:50.13vinaurequipcompare
18:50.20vinaurthe non ace version
18:50.52CIA-1703kagaro * r24069 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: removed unneeded translations
18:51.08Chinkukagaro|work, another one further down the line: Translation "Fetail School" does not exist.
18:51.48CIA-1703kagaro * r24070 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: drycode typo fix
18:52.02kagaro|workthe downside of coding at work, cant login to check it
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18:56.53CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r24071 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua:
18:56.53CIA-17Cartographer_Fishing:
18:56.53CIA-17- typo fix
18:57.23Fisker-This channel is relevant for my interests
18:57.49Fisker-http://cgi.4chan.org/f/src/enjoyaids.swf
18:58.02kagaro|workafk meeting
18:58.17Fisker-I like afk meetings
18:58.43pastamancerno way, I take my keyboard to meetings
18:58.55mjc_laptop ftw
19:00.13CIA-1703cinedelle * r24072 10KingOfTheJungle/Locales/KingOfTheJungle-frFR.lua:
19:00.13CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
19:00.13CIA-17-frFR updated to reflect the enUS changes
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19:04.35CIA-1703Tristan * r24073 10DeclineDuel/ (. DeclineDuel.lua DeclineDuel.toc):
19:04.35CIA-17DeclineDuel:
19:04.35CIA-17- Initial Commit
19:06.34CIA-1703Tristan * r24074 10DeclineDuel/:
19:06.34CIA-17DeclineDuel:
19:06.34CIA-17- Externals Set
19:07.46kagaro|afk-meeti.nick kagaro|work
19:08.00kagaro|workback .. shortest phone meeting eva
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19:09.08vinaurhow would i go about deep-copying a function?
19:09.13CIA-1703sylfi * r24075 10PlayerRating/PlayerRatingData.lua:
19:09.13CIA-17PlayerRating:
19:09.13CIA-17- Found a bug in initial reputation assignment for new players.
19:10.01kagaro|workchinku: what did i miss?
19:10.57CIA-1703gandharva * r24076 10Cartographer_Quests/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Quests: fixed icon link
19:11.04Chinkukagaro|work, there was another typo, "Schoold"
19:11.11CIA-1703gandharva * r24077 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Trainers: fixed icon link
19:11.36CIA-1703gandharva * r24078 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Vendors: fixed icon link
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19:18.43vinaurhey ck
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19:19.35vinaurdo you happen to know how to deep-copy a function?
19:20.12ckknightyou can't
19:21.04vinaur:-(
19:21.12CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r24079 10KingOfTheJungle/Locales/KingOfTheJungle-deDE.lua:
19:21.12CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
19:21.12CIA-17- updated deDE localization to reflect the recent UI changes
19:21.52vinaurany other way to hook onto a bottons onclick event without destroying it's function? and without making a frame over it?
19:24.59Eternally777Is there an advantage to using AceLibrary's error and assert methods rather than calling 'error()' and 'assert()' directly?
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19:27.10ckknightyes, Eternally777
19:27.14ckknightread the wiki
19:27.28Ominoushey what is the script that you ahve to register with a frame in lua for it to do something when the cursor leaves the frame
19:27.46Daemona*chuckle* ok, this is new, nexus crystal 7g50
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19:29.01kergothvinaur: why would you need to copy the function?
19:29.14Mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6ABvCalLA
19:30.48Chinkuhm, on cart_vendors: does anyone see the vendor symbol to appear as a "?" on English clients, or does this only occur on a German one (like mine)?
19:31.32Ordogworks fine on english client
19:31.40Ordogbt, get rid of the german client!
19:32.15Ominousanyone know? ^^
19:35.34vinaurkergoth, i was going to copy the frame:GetScript("OnClick"), make a function that calls it, plus my code, then set that new function back to the frame's OnClick event frame:SetScript("OnClick", myfunction)
19:36.30vinaurshallow copy puts this in an infinite loop
19:37.09Ominousanyone? :/
19:37.23kergothlocal old = foo:GetScript("OnClick") foo:SetScript("OnClick", function() old() print("hi mom!") end)
19:37.30kergothyou mean, something like that? or what?
19:38.12kergothi dont see what the issue is here.  store the old reference somewhere your function can get to it and use it
19:38.18vinaurkergoth, yes, except that make it recursive
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19:38.26kergothno, it doesnt.
19:38.40vinaurkergoth, since old is a pointer to foo:OnClick
19:38.43kergothno, it isnt.
19:38.49kergothold is a pointer to the old function
19:38.51vinaurkergoth, try it
19:39.45kergothit works just fine. how do you think AceHook supports hooking scripts?
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19:40.53kergothlets see, how many addons in my addons dir use hookscript successfully..
19:41.00kergoth10 so far, grep's still going
19:41.30vinaurok, so why does the following overflow? /script local b = LootButton1:GetScript("OnClick");  local a = function() b(); message("hi"); end LootButton1:SetScript("OnClick",a)
19:43.40vinaurdamn it, lol...doesn't overflow anymore....wth
19:43.42CIA-1703ag * r24080 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
19:43.42CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
19:43.42CIA-17<PROTECTED>
19:44.37Ominoushey what is the script that you ahve to register with a frame in lua for it to do something when the cursor leaves the frame
19:45.20vinaurOnLeave
19:45.29Ominousty
19:45.37Curneydafire: i was afk sorry.  did you need something?
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19:46.17dafireCurney: no .. i just deleted some translations from prat deDE that were not longer used and bugged .9
19:46.27Ominouswhat is wrong wirh f:SetScript("OnLeave", function() f:Hide() end ) then
19:46.59dafiremaybe its  f:SetScript("OnLeave", function(f) f:Hide() end ) then
19:47.04vinauranother question about that script i posted...any idea why when you first click on the LootButton1, it says that some action has been blocked, but then then clicking on it again still pops up the message "hi" without a problem and blizzard complaining?
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19:47.55Adirell2~seen nargiddley
19:48.11purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 55m 22s ago, saying: 'look up gratuity, lib for tooltip scanning'.
19:48.11Adirell2(stupid me)
19:48.11Curneydafire: okay.  we are process of updating the menus so all of the translations are going to be wrong until we are stable
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19:49.32kergothvinaur: the old onclick could very well have been calling protected functions, but you calling it from your unsecure code would taint it, preventing those functions from acting correctly.  thats always the risk with hooking
19:49.36kergothafaik
19:49.54Ominousdafire: still dosent work
19:50.05dafirewas just an idea .9
19:50.56Ominousgot it :
19:50.57Ominous)
19:51.00vinaurkergoth, but if i go loot another mob after the script has been "disabled" i still get the message...and no more complaints about it not being secure
19:51.56kergothhmm, dunno then
19:52.04Ominousis there a list of the available scripts which can be set
19:52.13IndustrialAnyone have experience with SetBindingClick?
19:52.26IndustrialAnyone have experience with SetBindingClick()?
19:52.40vinaurOminous, http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29
19:52.42kagaro|workck: do you adjust world map icons for zoom?
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19:53.13kagaro|worknm: seems only the instanceloot map icons are affected by scal
19:53.18Ominousoh can it be any blizz event?
19:53.20kagaro|work*scale
19:53.57Ominousignore me fouind it
19:54.13vinaurOminous, actually here's a better list for what you are looking for http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers
19:54.24Ominousyea i got there :)
19:54.26CIA-1703tornhoof * r24081 10Yata/ (Localization.lua Options.lua TotemBar.lua TotemButton.lua):
19:54.26CIA-17Yata:
19:54.26CIA-17- Button style support: Border on/off, Dreamlayout, Zoomed
19:54.42Chinkuhating life... don't find it myself *sigh* anyone here who is into cart_vendors and could help me find the cause for those "?" icons on the map?
19:56.12Ominousits slightly ironinc that on my broadband connection i cant log on every evening but on the 56k i can lol
19:56.32CIA-1703tornhoof * r24082 10Yata/TotemBar.lua:
19:56.32CIA-17Yata:
19:56.32CIA-17- Typo fixed
19:56.52vinauri soo want to convert my addons to ace, but I still don't understand how to make the following commands with AceOptions... /it [itemLink] and /it history. One takes the [itemLink] calls a function with it, the other is a toggle. I know ck already told me something about it, but I didn't really understand it....any help?
19:57.08ckknightyou can't vinaur
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19:57.23ckknightjust do /it link [itemLink]
19:57.25ckknightif you want
19:57.41ckknightAceOptions table is meant to be not implementation-based
19:57.54ckknightand what you're doing is just ... bad, imho
19:57.57ckknightnonstandard
19:58.02ckknightunintuitive
19:58.47vinaur:-/ but it's....easy. yeah, yeah, I know..bad programming, but everyone using the mod is already used to it
19:58.58kagaro|workchinku: 1 sec ill check the mod
19:59.17Chinkukagaro|work, thanks
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20:00.15vinauri still don't understand why a nomatch option could not be added to AceOptions, not saying you need to go ahead and add it 'cause i asked so, but just want to know what would make it not work, or be incompatible in theory
20:00.32Nickenyfikenuhm hmm my FuBar panels got like a few pixels narrower compared to my screen width
20:00.40Nickenyfikendunno what i did :-P
20:00.44Ominouswhat is the thing called when the curser changes to what it is when you have to cick a weapon to apply a poison and does it have an event to asve me searching if anyone knows
20:01.47CIA-1703kagaro * r24083 10Cartographer_Vendors/addon.lua: Cartographer_Vendors: fixed the icon typo
20:01.50kagaro|workafk
20:03.16Chinkumeh, don't tell me it was just a typo... -.-
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20:08.18IndustrialDoes anyone have experience with SetBindingClick()?
20:08.37Tornhoofbtw what's the emote in the en_GB client to tell jokes?
20:08.56Industrial<PROTECTED>
20:08.59mjc_<PROTECTED>
20:09.05Industriali want /joke :|
20:09.18abyssichateis it different for the US client?
20:09.22Industrialno
20:09.43Industrialmjc_: do you have exerpeicne with SetBindingClick() ?
20:09.43Tornhoofthe german client has /witz so i assumed /joke
20:09.56dafireits silly
20:10.02dafireaeh /silly
20:10.05Industrialmjc_: and spellign :D?
20:10.44mjc_haha
20:10.47mjc_no
20:10.54Industrial=( sad pandaren =(
20:12.15evlAnyone tried to move MultiBarRight with :SetPoint? I can't get it working in an OnEnable
20:12.28Industrialdo you :ClearAllPoints() ?
20:12.29evlsorta doesn't do anything, another event in UIOptions firing or something?
20:12.33evlYes, no change
20:12.53Industrialmaybe its a blizzard managed frame, there was a trick for it just like the castingbar
20:13.19Industrialblizz keeps a table with exactly the setpoint data, but i cant remember the name
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20:16.14Curneyhas anyone had luck getting cartographer_import to actually import from gatherer?
20:18.02Curneyread the faq about it, followed those instruction.. but got nowhere.  logging in with gatherer enabled makes it say that it imported data but disabling gatherer shows that no such import took place.
20:18.29ZealotOnAStickYou using current gatherer dev beta, or pre-2.0 gatherer?
20:18.40Curneythe dev beta
20:18.46ZealotOnAStickThat's your problem.
20:18.54ZealotOnAStickYou need an old pre-2.0 data file.
20:19.12ZealotOnAStickcurrently the import module doesn't deal with the new version (and probably won't until it's finalized)
20:19.14Curneyahh hmm.. lemme see if i got one of those lol
20:19.41Sarozonyxia DB warning is broken in bigwigs
20:19.55mjc_works for me
20:20.03Tornhoofony deep breathes more often ? *fg*
20:20.41nevcairielSaroz: ping
20:20.44Saroznevcairiel
20:21.11kenlyricYou need more dots.
20:21.14nevcairielSaroz: could you add a check, to disable the heal tracking, when CastCommLib is not available at all?
20:21.53Sarozhrrm
20:22.15CIA-1703jncl * r24084 10Skinner/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned WIM, BuffQ, Fence, MailTo Next; Fixed EquipCompare bug; Changed the way Auctioneer etc are skinned, now done on AH load;
20:22.24nevcairieloh and
20:22.31nevcairieldebuff coloring of the raidframes stoped working
20:22.35nevcairielfor some reason
20:22.55Sarozworks fine here
20:23.23nevcairieldid you change something in the style layout thats needed for it? since i created my own style
20:23.52Sarozwell it needs a background
20:23.54Sarozobviously
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20:24.35nevcairielits basicly our "With Border" style, just without the border
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20:24.41nevcairielso that it looks like before with border hidden
20:24.55Sarozthere is already one called without border
20:25.01nevcairieli know
20:25.01Sarozunder layouts
20:25.07nevcairielbut it lacks the space around the buttons
20:25.27Sarozframe spacing option
20:25.33Sarozit's because inserts are gone
20:25.54Sarozlike the real CTRA
20:25.57Sarozanyway, you need a background
20:25.59Sarozthen it should work
20:26.22nevcairieli wanted the insets back, thats all :D
20:26.52Sarozdont you have castcomm?
20:26.58Sarozit pwns
20:26.59Sarozhard
20:27.04Sarozheal tracking is SO nice
20:27.26IndustrialDoes anyone have experience with SetBindingClick()?
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20:27.58toddcastcomm?
20:28.49CIA-1703ag * r24085 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua layouts/ABF.lua):
20:28.49CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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20:30.15Industrialwatchdog? that lives?
20:30.22Industrialisnt there, like, clique?
20:30.40renchapis it an ennemy castbar in aguf ? i have one bar in the middle of my screen and i cant move it
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20:31.22ag`_Industrial: I worked with clad months ago to put a watchdog tag system into ag_UnitFrames
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20:34.01Industrialnevcairiel: pm
20:34.44CIA-1703kagaro * r24086 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: Cartographer_Trainers: fixed a typo on create note
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20:35.34ag`_Industrial: I have some experience with SetBindingClick..
20:35.36CIA-1703kagaro * r24087 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: Cartographer_Quests: fixed a typo in setnote
20:35.44Industrialok well
20:35.52kagaro|workChinku: that should fix those 3 modules
20:36.01Industrialhttp://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07021/WoWScrnShot_010807_171123.jpg
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20:36.08Industrialthats how it ooks (the actionbar)
20:36.17Industrialhttp://industrial.pastey.net/4751
20:36.20Industrialthats the code
20:36.29Chinkukagaro|work, thanks, will try them asap
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20:36.40Industriali know the loop at line 60 is redundant but its just to make clear what im trying to do
20:36.48Industrialand it doesnt. work.
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20:37.33Industrialoh also
20:37.44Industrialwhen i reload my interface it looks like
20:37.46Industrialhttp://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07021/WoWScrnShot_010807_213653.jpg
20:37.53ag`_Industrial: have you tried SetOverrideBindingClick ?
20:37.56Industrialthat, (but i added borders, minor tweak)
20:38.07Industrial(and they still dont work)
20:38.10Industrialag`_: no
20:38.18ag`_Could you try and see if that would work?
20:38.30Industrialtheres no doc on it at wowwiki, how does it work?
20:38.34kagaro|workChinku: was it working before at all? or better yet were you using it under englich locale?
20:38.41IndustrialSetOverrideBindingClick(owner, isPriority, "KEY", "ButtoName"[,"mouseButton"])
20:38.52MikmaIndustrial: http://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar.jpg
20:39.12IndustrialMikma: :D?
20:39.25ag`_Industrial: owner is a frame I think
20:39.27MikmaIndustrial: my new actionbar layout
20:39.35IndustrialMikma: arent those bars on the right the action sets 3 and 4?
20:39.39IndustrialMikma: i saw that today :P
20:40.02ag`_Industrial: and isPriority, I think it worked for me if I just passed false or true, I can't remember
20:40.14ag`_but nowhere does it say what isPriority does
20:40.24Chinkukagaro|work, i'm using it under deDE exclusively; it was working before, just the icon and the creator info were wrong.
20:40.38dafirei guess it's overiding an other keybinding with the same keys
20:40.42Chinkuwell, the creator info is still wrong on cart_vendory
20:40.46Chinku-y +s
20:40.49dafirefor some kind of popup menu keybindings
20:40.49MikmaIndustrial: ummmmm, depends :O
20:41.02kagaro|workI was trying to find the revision where where they changed the icon registration
20:41.26CIA-1703eternally777 * r24088 10SacredBuff/ (SacredBuff.lua UI.lua):
20:41.26CIA-17SacredBuff:
20:41.26CIA-17- Removed an unused table.
20:41.56Chinkukagaro|work, the problem with icons not appearing right occurred several times in the past, affecting other addons. but there it was gone as soon as the translations got corrected
20:42.04Industrialag`_: SetOverrideBindingClick(myActionButton1, nil, bindings[i], 'myActionButton'..i)
20:42.07Industrialag`_: and it works.
20:42.17Industrialag`_: but it doesnt display the bindings (i dont care tbh)
20:42.24ag`_hrm
20:42.28ag`_there is a way to get bindings
20:42.54ag`_but nice anyway, good to know it works
20:42.54kagaro|workChinku: the thing I changes was this: the icon was registerd as 'Vendor', but the note was being added as localized 'Vendor'
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20:43.15Industrialyeah
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20:44.21CIA-1703takadi * r24089 10TalentShow-1.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): TalentShow-1.0: Initial import.
20:45.13Chinkukagaro|work: ah, I seem to understand. but why's the creator note of cart_vendors still in english while all other modules' notes show the german description?
20:46.42ElkanoKarlThePagan, mind adding your libs as optional dependencies to GrouperLFG?
20:47.06KarlThePaganElkano, yes I'll do that
20:47.18KarlThePaganworking to finish my profiles system atm
20:47.40Elkanoand make sure you got all needed libs, eg dewdrop, tablet and babble seem to be missing
20:47.47KarlThePaganI need to simplify & rewrite... iterators create too large of a stack and are ick to debug
20:47.48KarlThePaganyea
20:47.58KarlThePaganneed to test it as standalone without fubar
20:48.12KarlThePaganwith that all done i'll move it into trunk tonight
20:48.53kagaro|workChinku: that I cant tell you, unless the vendor name comes acros sin english for whatever reason .. the note data should be localized I dont see him trying to explicitly localize the vendor name or type
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20:50.18CIA-1703takadi * r24090 10TalentShow-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): TalentShow-1.0: Set externals and SVN properties.
20:51.57nevcairielSaroz: range checking just stopped working, for some reason, works again when i scroll through the range check options
20:52.34nevcairielSaroz: the 40yd option disappeard from my range menu :o
20:52.53KarlThePaganElkano, you using it? is the clicking / flashing too much?
20:53.16Elkanowell, just installed it
20:53.25KarlThePaganok cool tell me what you think
20:53.53KarlThePaganI want to show that the user interaction has an effect, but yea still have to have an idle flash
20:54.03KarlThePaganprobably i'll give it a deadtime not to flash in
20:54.12Chinkukagaro|work: strange. will try to understand how it works and do some testing... ;-)
20:54.23KarlThePaganand by design you're not supposed to click too fast
20:54.47Elkanowell, I'm missing the info what the current display means. also for the 4 statuses you could improve the hints
20:54.53kagaro|workChinku: try wiping the saved variables for vendors and hit a few of them it may be he used to not localize it, then changed it
20:54.59Saroznevcairiel, works fine here man, you using your hacked up version? :p
20:55.05KarlThePaganyea
20:55.14kagaro|workChinku: either case he doesnt provide an OnTooltipRequest to localize the info
20:55.17nevcairielSaroz: nah, but i really dont have a 40yd option anymore, no idea why
20:55.18KarlThePaganthe states need to actually do something first ;) need to make the profiles work
20:55.20Elkanoand why did it change my status from DND to OK?
20:55.31KarlThePaganthat's the login grace period
20:55.44KarlThePaganit should have printed something out in your default chat window when that happened and played a bg sound
20:55.45Saroznevcairiel, seems to be a druid thing, wait, sending a diff
20:55.48Chinkukagaro|work: ah, thus it gets set upon talking to a vendor, and is not able to dynamically localize the text?
20:56.13nevcairielSaroz: could be because i dont have CastCommLib, or couldnt it? :D
20:56.28Elkanoalso it shows (4) dungeon but all dungeons are (0)
20:56.38KarlThePaganthat's interesting
20:56.48Saroznevcairiel, no
20:57.15KarlThePaganI should post my latest code but it's not stable yet :/
20:57.31nevcairielSaroz: [2007/01/08 21:57:09-52-x1]: sRaidFrames\sRaidFrames.lua:1020: attempt to index a nil value
20:57.33nevcairielon reloadui
20:57.36kagaro|workChinku: yeah if you dont provide a OnTooltipRequest  .. mining, herbs, fishing, treasure all provide one and localize when you mouse ove
20:58.08Chinkukagaro|work: aaaahh, again understood some of it :-)
20:58.14Saroznevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/4756
20:58.21KarlThePaganeven in my current code clicking too fast causes querries to be dropped and not re-added to the queue appropriately
20:58.43Saroznevcairiel, thats cause you dont have a headerWidth in your layout
20:58.47Sarozor headerHeight
20:59.12Sarozgogo debug
20:59.14nevcairielhrm
20:59.35Saroznevcairiel, what language are you using? english?
20:59.40nevcairielyea
20:59.43Sarozhrm
20:59.44nevcairielok i solved my layout bug
20:59.46CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r24091 10DKPmon/ (53 files in 27 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 - Add localization support. (drycode)
20:59.50Sarozanyway, check out the patch
20:59.56Sarozseems druids lack a 40 yard check
20:59.57Sarozfor some reason
21:00.16nevcairielall my heals are 40y
21:00.17kenlyricis there a 40 yard check for priests?
21:00.28Sarozit scans spells
21:00.36Sarozso if you have a 40 yard spell, you have a 40 yard check
21:00.39Sarozso yes, priests have one
21:00.42SarozI have one (paladin)
21:00.56nymbiaKemayo: did the returns for Quixote_Leaderboard_Update change?
21:00.57kenlyriccould it be used to make a dynamic in-range window?
21:00.59nevcairielnow the 40y option is back
21:01.02nevcairielweird.
21:01.16nevcairielwonder if it works
21:01.27Sarozhrrrmmm
21:01.32Sarozwonder if
21:01.36vhaarrnevcairiel: Okay, so I need your actionbar-fu regarding keybindings in 2.0. Did you ever use my Bartender2_BindingSwap addon?
21:01.39Sarozit's because it scans the spellbook too soon
21:03.10CIA-1703saroz * r24092 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: CastComm optional dep.
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21:03.48nevcairielvhaarr: what? no i didnt use it. and you dont need any fu stuff for bindings
21:03.52kagaro|workkergoth: You going to add Indurium to mining?
21:04.06vhaarrnevcairiel: ah, err, no, not fu as in fubar.
21:04.10vhaarrnevcairiel: fu as in imba skillz.
21:04.18nevcairieloh
21:04.19nevcairielhehe
21:04.30nevcairielwhat did your addon do?
21:04.57vhaarrnevcairiel: It registered 6 bindings; Shift+1-6, that, when pressed, reassigned the 1-9 and 0 keys from bar 1 to 6.
21:05.01vhaarrnevcairiel: Make sense?
21:05.41vhaarrSo I never used anything but 1-9 and 0, and just used Shift+1-6 to reassign those bindings live.
21:05.41CIA-1703nymbia * r24093 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: GrindStatus: Prevent errors during a quest update that may be caused by watching no faction.
21:06.01phyberapparently the BigWigs on curse-gaming is fucked.
21:06.17Saroznevcairiel, anyway, feel free to commit fixes etc.
21:06.19vhaarrnevcairiel: Anyway, I converted that addon to 2.0, but I have no idea how to make it work in combat, or if it's even possible.
21:06.23vhaarrphyber: how so?
21:06.24phybersomeone in my guild is getting errors about translations from it. and a ton of self.db being nil stuff.
21:06.59vhaarrphyber: I fucked up and uploaded a non-LoD version yesterday, but I re-uploaded a fixed version last night.
21:07.01phybervhaarr: I'm getting them to ace.pastey the errors now.
21:07.20vhaarrphyber: So they'll have boss modules both in BigWigs\ and BigWigs_Zone\
21:07.24vhaarrWhich will make it bork.
21:07.38nevcairielvhaarr: you cannot change any bindings in combat, but why not page the bar instead of changing the bindings?
21:07.55vhaarrnevcairiel: Because I want them all visible at the same time.
21:08.01nevcairielhrm
21:08.01vhaarrnevcairiel: So basically, Blizzard fucked me.
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21:08.16vhaarrnice ><
21:08.29vhaarrphyber: Tell them to delete all their BigWigs stuff and download again.
21:08.33vhaarrphyber: And it'll work.
21:09.03SylfiHey ckknight: SendChatMessage() isn't totally busted for channels. I've noticed that GEM (guild event manager) uses it and still works, and not all of the AceComm CHANNEL messages cause a disconnect. I've investigated AceComm a bunch but have not isolated what causes the disconnect.
21:09.53ckknightk
21:10.06Sylfickknight: It still disconnects with/without the Encoding.
21:10.17ckknightyep.
21:10.39SylfiSo I don't think that's the problem.
21:10.39ckknight*thumbs up*
21:10.55SylfiAnd it is not a problem with the data (I've tried tables, strings, integers, and floats).
21:11.22SylfiI don't know how to test if it is the volume of data sent causing it to disconnect.
21:11.45dafireyou can disable the spam protection, can't you?
21:11.46SylfiBut from what I can see, GEM is sending tons more data than what I've sent in my tests that cause it to disconnect.
21:12.02CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r24094 10DKPmon/ (3 files in 3 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 - Fixed bugs with localization.
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21:12.42phybervhaarr: yeah, that was the problem.  thanks :)
21:12.53vhaarrphyber: no problem, was my mistake :)
21:12.58ckknightdafire: doesn't always work
21:13.35KarlThePaganckknight, here's a mysery about cart minimap notes
21:13.41KarlThePaganpossibly related to other game oddities
21:14.03KarlThePaganwhen i mindvision something my mapnotes are shown relative to my position
21:14.04pastamancerhave any Grid users seen the SecureTemplates.lua:816 bug in the past couple of days?
21:14.13SylfiMaybe there are some special characters that are not properly Encoded. But the only ones I know of are |, \n...
21:14.15KarlThePaganpastamancer, yes
21:14.24KarlThePagannot very often
21:14.26pastamancerKarlThePagan: how recently?
21:14.43KarlThePaganwait a sec
21:14.50KarlThePaganyour SecureTemplates code?
21:14.53KarlThePagannot the xml one?
21:14.59pastamancerthe FrameXML one
21:15.27KarlThePaganyea framexml at some point during aq40 last night
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21:15.59pastamancerr23847?
21:16.04Adirell2<PROTECTED>
21:16.08KarlThePaganck also related to this... i've been told that when players aren't close to me they don't see my proper minimap pings when i'm mind visioning an enemy
21:16.17KarlThePaganbut that's not carto
21:16.23ckknightAdirell2: what function?
21:16.28CIA-1703kagaro * r24095 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: Added indurium ore and node
21:16.30Adirell2I mean in a AceLocale instance, not in the library
21:16.34ckknightoh, yes
21:16.36ckknightyou can.
21:16.40ckknightI do it in Babble
21:17.05KarlThePaganpastamancer, 23489
21:17.13Adirell2Soulbound and unbound items are quite tricky to properly detect
21:17.13ckknightKarlThePagan: yea...
21:17.14Adirell2(in french)
21:17.30renchapkagaro|work: i have a bug with Cartographer_Mining. a friend share his data, but i have a ? icon for copper mines
21:17.50pastamancerKarlThePagan: oh, I *might* have "fixed" it in 23847
21:17.59CIA-1703nevcairiel * r24096 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: only register with CastCommLib if its actually available
21:18.10kagaro|workrenchap: do you hav the mining module active and enabled?
21:18.13renchapyup
21:18.23SarozNEED MORE CASTCOMM USERS!
21:18.33KarlThePagank
21:18.41Antiarcnevcairiel: ping
21:18.45Saroznevcairiel you committed debug stuff -.-
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21:19.11Chinkukagaro|work: I locally changed the Cartographer_Notes:SetNote() call to use the localized string, Cartographer_Notes:SetNote(zone, x, y, note.icon, L["Vendors"], note), what do you think of that?
21:19.17renchapbut i have a french client, and my friend the en one
21:19.33renchapi think this is the problem
21:19.46kagaro|workrenchap: that shouldnt be a problem
21:19.59renchapso i dont know why ^^
21:20.36kagaro|workchinku: (x,y,note.icon,'Vendors', note)  .. in note .title you need to localize the name there .. in set note the "Vendors" is the databse to use
21:20.58ZealotOnAStickckknight, you around?
21:21.07ckknightat work
21:21.28kagaro|workrenchap: all i can think of is your mining module isent enabled, try disbale/re-enable it
21:21.35ZealotOnAStickquery: is it possible to have more than one icon for a fubar plugin and be able to select which one to use for FuBar/FuBar-Plugin?
21:21.52kagaro|workafk
21:21.56ckknightyes
21:22.05pastamancerSaroz: US?
21:22.24vhaarrZealotOnAStick: self:SetIcon
21:22.31Sarozpastamancer, EU
21:22.40renchaphmmm, i see
21:22.56pastamancerSaroz: :(  I guess it'll take a while for people to update to the latest-and-greatest
21:23.01renchapthe module isnt activated, but the notes are shown
21:23.39renchapmining notes should be added but hidden if the module isnt activated
21:23.59nevcairielSaroz: your stupid diff :P
21:24.24ZealotOnAStickckknight, question 2: you want anyone else to have moderation privs on the Cartographer board (perhaps kagaro?)?
21:24.31CIA-1703nevcairiel * r24097 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: woops, be gone debug pest!
21:24.36ckknightprobably, I dunno.
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21:26.11Adirell2Nargiddley : I'm try to fix soulbound detection in Baggins for frFR
21:26.27Antiarcnevcairiel: Would you be interested in a BT3 patch that auto-sets hotkey text based on SetBindingSpell/Item/Macro bindings?
21:26.50Adirell2Nargiddley: ping
21:26.52AntiarcI wrote it last night - needs some debugging - but it's very helpful. Autopopulates the hotkey text for the spell the button holds regardless of the spell's location
21:26.58AntiarcIf not, I'll make it an addon that hooks into BT3
21:27.24Adirell2Antiarc: neeed ! :)
21:28.18Adirell2Kaelten : I have a question about frame strata of onebang
21:28.20vhaarrAntiarc: pr0n
21:28.22Adirell2s/bang/bag/
21:28.28Antiarcvhaarr: what
21:28.39vhaarrAntiarc: your patch, it sounds cool
21:28.45AntiarcOh, heh, ok :)
21:28.48JoshBorkei don't understand what Antiarc's patch does...
21:29.01AntiarcWell, Josh_Borke, you know how you can set a spell or item directly to a hotkey?
21:29.07JoshBorkeyessum
21:29.07NargiddleyAdirell2, ok. What is it that makes it difficult to detect ?
21:29.15vhaarrAntiarc: make it a 3rd party addon please, I want to hack on it
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21:29.21Adirell2Nargiddley: hold a sec
21:29.37AntiarcThe patch makes it so that if you, say, bind Bloodrage to CTRL-F, then drop Bloodrage onto BT3, it'll automatically set the hotkey text on that button to c-F
21:29.37vhaarrAntiarc: so that for example if you have an action button that calls a macro that uses ClosetGnome, I want it to display the hotkey as well
21:29.42NargiddleyAdirell2, also I changed it to use global strings for the scanning
21:29.52kagaro|workrenchap: if the module isnt active it doesnt know a mining note is
21:29.52AntiarcIt shows macro bindings already.
21:30.02Adirell2Nargiddley: seen that
21:30.03JoshBorkeinteresting
21:30.04AntiarcIf there's a BT3 binding to that action button slot, it won't overwrite
21:30.12JoshBorkenifty
21:30.13AntiarcIt only sets the hotkey text if there isn't a hotkey for the BT3 button already.
21:30.32vhaarrAntiarc: That's not the point, the ClosetGnome keybindings are bound directly to the ClosetGnome:WearSet method.
21:30.36renchapkagaro|work: so thats a normal behaviour ?
21:30.41vhaarrAntiarc: Not to a macro.
21:30.54vhaarrAntiarc: Just make it a 3rd party addon so I can hack it in :)
21:30.59AntiarcThat's not so easy to detect, but you could hack it i...yeah :)
21:31.11kagaro|workrenchap: yes, active the module and set the filter to none if you want to recive them but not show them
21:31.21AntiarcI'll see if I can get it working up to my expectations tonight
21:31.24renchapok
21:31.30Adirell2Nargiddley: http://ace.pastey.net/4758
21:31.34AntiarcIt currently doesn't populate right on login - only after a binding change - but that should be trivial to overcome.
21:31.43AntiarcBut it works nicely.
21:32.05Adirell2about ClosetGnome, how does it compare with ItemRack ?
21:32.06kagaro|workat the notes level all that says a not belongs to a module is the creator .. and those only get registered when the module is activated/loaded
21:32.34kagaro|workyou may need to de-activate/activate the notes module to get it to hide
21:32.35AntiarcClosetGnome + SwapMagic completely replaces ItemRack as far as I'm concerned
21:32.41AntiarcBut I never used the event-based equipping in ItemRack
21:33.10Adirell2I did sometimes, but I usually have to localize some of them
21:33.15Chinkukagaro|work: the only way to get the creator info localized in cart_vendor seems to be passing L["Vendors"] instead of "Vendors" as argument to Cartographer_Notes:SetNote()
21:33.16Goebitemrack vs closetgnome, I miss 2 things from item rack
21:33.35Goebthe quick menu's to switch individual items (there's another ace2 addon that does that tho, whoot!)
21:33.44NargiddleyAdirell2, i see
21:33.55Goeband when you switch an item in combat that you can't... it queues it up and does it when you drop from combat
21:33.58kagaro|workChinku: when i get home tonight ill take a closer look at it
21:34.30vhaarrGoeb: ClosetGnome does that as well?
21:34.32kergothGoeb: closetgnome does that.. for set equipping anyway
21:34.33JoshBorkeAntiarc: you can scan for all used bindings when they log in (see BindingsReminder)
21:34.39Chinkukagaro|work: thanks a lot
21:34.47AntiarcJosh_Borke: Yeah, that's easy enough to do. It's just a matter of hooking the right place.
21:34.52kergothwould be useful for swapmagic to do that too for individual switches, no doubt
21:34.54AntiarcIt's not a hard problem, just one I didn't get to last night.
21:34.55Goebit does for sets
21:35.10vhaarrGoeb: Then it's a SwapMagic problem, not a CG one.
21:35.11Goebif you can tell me that it does it for items (trinkets for example)
21:35.17NargiddleyAdirell2, might be able to fix it without too much hassle
21:35.20vhaarrAnd it could be added to SwapMagic indeed.
21:35.22kergothclosetgnome doesnt handle individual items at all
21:35.27GoebI'll switch in a heartbeat... itemrack is a pig ;)
21:35.40kergothmm, Talented is nice
21:35.41Goebswapmagic is auto-switching of sets no?
21:36.07deltroni think closetgnome has an instance based plugin
21:36.14deltronand encounter based one IIRC
21:36.17AntiarcIt does
21:36.18Adirell2Nargiddley: what do you think of http://ace.pastey.net/4760 ?
21:36.30AntiarcBut I don't think it handles events like "Mounted" like ItemRack does
21:36.32Goebwait, swapmagic is the alt-click to change individual items...
21:36.38AntiarcHowever, this brings me to a question -
21:36.39GoebI gave up on auto-switching sets
21:36.41vhaarrAntiarc: ClosetGnome_Mount.
21:36.44AntiarcAha!
21:36.53AntiarcIs there an addon that auto-switches your trinkets based on a priority list and cooldown?
21:36.55AntiarcFor example -
21:37.03Goebcg has modules for switching mounts, I found it wasn't very reliable tho
21:37.05kergothtrinketmenu :P
21:37.28AntiarcI want my Insignia of the Alliance equipped for PVP. However, if it's on cooldown, I want my Flame Reflector equipped, but I want the Insignia auto-equipped when it's at 30 sec or less left on cooldown.
21:37.30kergothvhaarr: it seems like _mount doesnt always get me out of mount nowadays.  it used to, pre 2.0, but sometimes i find myself fighting in mount gear again
21:37.40Antiarckergoth: Last I checked, trinketmenu didn't do that. Does it do it now?
21:37.41vhaarrkergoth: oh
21:37.41GoebI do a lot of things like change items while dead and running back after a wipe... which you can't do while dead, but when I res, poof, everything switches :)
21:37.43kergothhavent isolated a set of circumstances to make it happen though
21:37.52CIA-1703gamefaq * r24098 10Prat/ (22 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Updated complete deDE Translation to 2.0
21:37.53vhaarrkergoth: Could be a SE-Mount problem?
21:38.05kergothAntiarc: it can manage the priority order, but afaik it cant do the "for pvp" thing
21:38.27AntiarcMaybe I'll write a small PVP-oriented switcher
21:38.29NargiddleyAdirell2, might have a better solution. try replacing the soulbond checks with gratuity:Find("^"..ITEM_SOULBOUND.."$",2,2)
21:38.35AntiarcI don't need to switch trinkets aggressively in PVE
21:38.52Adirell2Adirell2: gratuity:Find operates only on one string ?
21:39.21kergothcome to think of it, with swapmagic, i could live without trinketmenu's actual trinket menu, perhaps. could do a new addon with a weighting system for deciding what trinkets to equip when
21:39.35AntiarcExactly. I never used TrinketMenu's switcher.
21:39.38NargiddleyAdirelle, i'm hoping so. not sure if it'll work
21:40.00vhaarrAdirell2: By default, it should scan the entire tooltip.
21:40.27Nargiddleyvhaarr, will it do it one string at a time tho ?
21:40.38Adirell2well, I'll put out my fingers and will check the wiki :)
21:40.39kergothits handy having the trinkets up at all times, but i rarely swap them manually, unless its to equip an engineering trinket of some kind.  that could easily be a seperate addon from the automatic trinket equip queue
21:40.45Adirell2s/put/pull/
21:40.46vhaarrNargiddley: yes
21:40.48Adirell2thx tho
21:40.49kergothmeh
21:41.11vhaarrNargiddley: MultiFind scans up to 10 times.
21:41.13vhaarrIIRC
21:41.19nuOHEPyou can try str:match(ITEM_SOULBOUND.."$").
21:41.35Antiarckergoth: I generally just swap my trinkets with SwapMagic, so eh.
21:41.47AntiarcBut I'd love a cooldown-based autoswitcher based on various states and conditions
21:41.55AntiarcIf PVP and in AB, do this list
21:41.59AntiarcIf PVP and in WSG, do this list
21:42.00Antiarcetc etc.
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21:42.51AntiarcSince PVP combat doesn't usually last too long, you could equip at a set mark (30 sec till ready default) and you'd nearly never have a cooled-down but not-equipped high-priority trinket.
21:43.00Adirell2what would you think of an addon that switchs other addons' profile based on some conditions ?
21:43.06AntiarcEew.
21:43.14Goebheh
21:43.17AntiarcI think that'd be a pain in the butt.
21:43.17vhaarrWhat the f... I can Track Humanoids in Cat form?!
21:43.25AntiarcBut that's probably because of how I use profiles.
21:43.25kergothAntiarc: i think trinketmenu does that already (pre-equipping so the equip cooldown will overlap the item cooldown, that is)
21:43.26Antiarcvhaarr: Yess
21:43.34Chinkuvhaarr: indeed you can
21:43.36kergothheh
21:43.38vhaarrWhen was that added?
21:43.43Antiarckergoth: I'm sure it does. I'm just thinking from a primarily pvp-oriented perspective.
21:43.50AntiarcThinking of failure cases
21:44.00AntiarcI don't think there are many fights longer than 30 sec
21:44.05Adirell2vhaar : long ago i think
21:44.07AntiarcMaybe like the initial BS rush in AB or something
21:44.29vhaarrcool
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21:44.49Adirell2about profile-switch, I meant something like, say, "when in arathi bassin, sets grid to use its 'AB' profile"
21:45.19kergothAntiarc: should be pretty straightforward to do a new addon for the priority system.  hehe, you could even go farther, not just trinkets, but automatically swapping your weapons for your backups when they hit a certain threshold durability %
21:46.05vhaarrag`_: ping
21:46.17ag`_vhaarr: pong
21:46.29vhaarrag`_: http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=agufeb7.png
21:46.48vhaarrag`_: Why does it truncate there? Seems like there should be enough room to spell "Druid".
21:47.17Antiarckergoth: Ooh.
21:47.34add\\LeialynHiya, I've got a question: Is there some kind of mass auction addon atm? Like mass mail addons but for auctions
21:47.35JoshBorkelol Dr
21:47.40JoshBorkeGeir: DR...
21:47.40ag`_vhaarr: it's the string width stuff
21:47.45Adirell2Nargiddley: gratuity:Find(ITEM_BIND_ON_PICKUP,2,2,false,false,true) (i.e. enabling exact match) should do the trick too... i'll test it
21:47.55vhaarrag`_: I updated just before I logged in now.
21:47.59NargiddleyAdirell2, ok
21:48.16ZealotOnAStickGrarr.
21:48.29ZealotOnAStickA portion of my kingdom for mass-move in SMF
21:48.36ag`_vhaarr: help me figure out a solution :P
21:48.45vhaarrag`_: ^^
21:48.48CIA-1703morgalm * r24099 10MorgDKP/ (9 files):
21:48.48CIA-17MorgDKP:
21:48.48CIA-17-added dkplist all command
21:48.48CIA-17-deDE localization (needs debugging)
21:48.48CIA-17-localization changes for deDE
21:48.49CIA-17-changed to Roster-2.1 (with hopefully temp code to avoid duplicate events)
21:48.54vhaarrag`_: Where is the code?
21:49.11ag`_hmm
21:49.19nymbiaZealotOnAStick: lol :)
21:50.22Goebwhat does "Links" do? (the ace2 addon)
21:50.35ag`_vhaarr: well there's the ABF layout file
21:50.45Antiarckergoth: Maybe just a general inventory switcher based on various parameters
21:50.49Goebthe description sucks
21:50.55AntiarcFor example, when item X is at 0%, switch it to item Y.
21:50.55nuOHEPGoeb, multiple itemref tooltips
21:51.05ag`_vhaarr: and there's the theme system in ag_UnitClass that resizes the strings according to frame width
21:51.16Adirell2Nargiddley: eeek... :  "Baggins-0.1 Beta\Baggins.lua:172: AceLocale(Baggins): Translation "Arme" does not exist."
21:51.20AntiarcJust have a condition system that lets users build a condition for that slots and off you go.
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21:51.45nuOHEPGoeb, basically, linkwrangler for 2.0
21:51.47Goebso it's like MultiTips or LinkWrangler?
21:51.56Goebah, hm...
21:52.32NargiddleyAdirell2, hmm localized values shouldnt have got into the saved rules
21:52.56Adirell2Nargiddley: fixed by reloading default profile
21:53.04Adirell2but something is weird
21:53.29Adirell2ah, some profile name aren't localized
21:54.01Nargiddleyhmm, that'll be because loading the default profile doesnt remove categories, just adds the default ones
21:54.18Nargiddleyprobably still have the english ones defined
21:56.11Adirell2name="Mats" => name=L["Mats"], but I dunno if it is related to the previous error
21:56.30Adirell2btw it is in the bag section, not category
21:56.40CIA-1703kagaro * r24100 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: started to add skill minimus for gatherig skills
21:57.44Nargiddleyahh, bank bag section names arent localized. i'll fix that
21:57.45Adirell2categories seem fine, except { type="Tooltip", text="ITEM_BIND_QUEST" } will it funcion ?
21:57.56Adirell2s/funcion/work/
21:58.09Adirell2shouldn't it be { type="Tooltip", text=ITEM_BIND_QUEST }
21:58.11Adirell2?
21:58.15Nargiddleyno
21:58.30Adirell2oky :)
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21:58.38Nargiddleythe tooltip rules looks for a global string, uses that if it finds one
21:58.44Adirell2fine
21:58.51Nargiddleyso the saved variables dont get the localized value in them
21:59.53Goebhow does wardrobe2 compare to closetgnome (minus any auto-switching modules)
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22:01.21CIA-1703takadi * r24101 10Henge/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Henge: Some updates and modifications to use TalentShow.
22:01.58Kemayonymbia: They shouldn't have.
22:02.12Kemayonymbia: Or, rather, I didn't change them.
22:02.40Kadishnymbia's here?
22:02.48nymbiaKemayo: i had some user reported errors that looked like they mighta changed, but after a close look i think it was another problem.  thanks though :D
22:02.54nymbiaKadish: nope
22:02.56nymbia~flee
22:02.58purlACTION runs away screaming
22:03.15Adirell2Nargiddley: ok, the binding rules seems to work as intended
22:03.29Kadishnymbia, you're one of my wow mod heroes
22:03.32Kadish*hug*
22:03.39nymbia:D
22:03.54CIA-1703moonsorrow * r24102 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua:
22:03.54CIA-17SwapMagic:
22:03.54CIA-17- Queue up items when in combat and swap them later
22:04.35Adirell2i'll end the job by using globalstrings constants instead of L[] in dewdrop :)
22:04.54Nargiddleyk
22:09.18Adirell2note for later use : do not forget to save your file before reloading...
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22:11.59Adirell2bind_on_* rules checks against unbound tooltip ?
22:12.55Adirell2oh yes, they do
22:12.56Nargiddleyyeah
22:13.09Adirell2everything's fine then
22:15.06CIA-1703adirelle * r24103 10Baggins/ (Baggins-frFR.lua Baggins.lua):
22:15.06CIA-17Baggins:
22:15.06CIA-17- some bag section weren't localized in default profile.
22:15.06CIA-17- fixed bind rules in french.
22:15.33Adirell2SP|Sorren : SP|Sorren.is(a-stray-cat) ?
22:15.33CIA-1703moonsorrow * r24104 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua:
22:15.33CIA-17SwapMagic:
22:15.34CIA-17- Checks added and bugs fixed
22:16.47vhaarrFtH|eagle: Ah, nice :)
22:17.06FtH|eaglevhaarr: wasn't that complicated, and I wanted that feature too for a while :P
22:17.11vhaarrhehe
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22:22.17ZealotOnAStickWell, that was annoying.
22:23.14Adirell2Nargiddley: I'm still here to annoy you :p would you mind if I add an option to hide blizzard bank frame ?
22:23.51Nargiddleyif you can find how to hide it without closing the bank
22:25.22ZealotOnAStickFuBar Child Board: 1428 posts in 98 topics.
22:25.31ZealotOnAStickerr, 94
22:25.38Adirell2Kaelten did it: hook BankFrame_OnEvent to drop events in a blackhole
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22:26.34ZealotOnAStickag`_, pastamancer: you've both got mod privs in the Unit Frames child board.
22:26.38CIA-1703neriak * r24105 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_Browse.lua):
22:26.38CIA-17Fence:
22:26.38CIA-17- fixed all those nasty bugs in Browse and Core <sigh>
22:26.48NargiddleyAdirell2, as long as disabling the option allows it to show without a reload go for it
22:27.35Adirell2np
22:28.46CIA-1703nargiddley * r24106 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua Baggins.toc): Baggins: Only filter items into categories that are in use by at least one bag
22:29.51CIA-1703ominous * r24107 10ItemEnchantApplication/ (Core.lua ItemEnchantApplication.toc Popup.lua): ItemEnchantApplication: now works much more widely with other addons
22:30.13KarlThePaganwtb cart module for Silithyst geysers
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22:31.26Industrialhttp://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07021/WoWScrnShot_010807_232547.jpg
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22:35.03BatosDoes anyone know of an ace calculator addon? :)
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22:38.17Industriallol.
22:38.44ThorgardCrap.. my guild just lost the Warlock and Paladin class leaders.
22:38.46Industrialif i make a calculator and stick a tag on it that says THIS ADDON USES ACE2
22:38.48Industrialwill you use it?
22:39.03kergothKarlThePagan: probably wouldnt be hard to add to _treasure, no?
22:39.05Josh_Borkedoes it actually use Ace2?
22:39.08Industrial(even though it doesnt)
22:39.18Josh_Borkeyes :-P
22:39.25Industrialok.
22:39.26ThorgardIndustrial, make a "/calc 1+2*(3-1)" calculator!
22:39.32Industrialwell im not gunna make one anyway
22:39.37Industrialkik
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22:40.07IndustrialBatos: tadah a calculator
22:40.08NargiddleyThorgard, /print 1+2*(3+1)
22:40.25ThorgardNargiddley, that's not the point! ;P It has to be an addon.
22:40.37KarlThePagankergoth, need to do some tooltip scanning to differentiate between geysers and piles left from bodies
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22:41.30kergothah
22:42.23ThorgardBetter yet, make a Prat module that turns "Yeah, that'll be c(325+400/3) gold" into "Yeah, that'll be 458.3 gold" ;P
22:42.27EejI wouldn't mind a calculator addon that has addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, square roots, factorials, y^x, logs, e^x... but then I could just pull out my normal calculator instead
22:44.24Adirell2~seen ToadKiller
22:44.47purltoadkiller <n=dbester@adsl-75-18-169-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 19h 29m 17s ago, saying: 'vid: you want an option to dock to bar6?'.
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22:55.48CIA-1703rabbit 07Rabbit * r24108 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (GroupFu.lua GroupFuLocal-deDE.lua GroupFuLocal-enUS.lua):
22:55.48CIA-17FuBar_GroupFu:
22:55.48CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:55.48CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:56.15CIA-1703rabbit 07Rabbit * r24109 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocal-enUS.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Missing translations.
22:57.07Sarozannounce is still not work vhaarr :p
22:57.15vhaarrSaroz: o_O
22:57.22SarozCTRL + click
22:57.31Sarozto announce the winner
22:57.40vhaarrWorks here.
22:57.46vhaarrSaroz: What do you expect when clicking?
22:57.54Sarozto output the roll winner in chat
22:58.05Adirell2oops, infinite recursive loop... bad idea
22:58.19vhaarrSaroz: Yeah, it will output the winner to the set announce location.
22:58.27Sarozwell it doesn't here
22:58.37vhaarrSaroz: What happens, then?
22:58.37Sarozwinner is shown in fubar text, but no output
22:58.39Saroznothing
22:58.42vhaarreh
22:58.43Sarozzero, zip, nada
22:58.55Sarozwait, I think it resets
22:58.59Sarozthe roll data
22:59.03vhaarryes
22:59.05vhaarrBut I fixed that.
22:59.07vhaarrSo it remembers now.
22:59.14vhaarrAnd you can Ctrl+Click again.
22:59.15Sarozwhen did you fix?
22:59.25vhaarrSaroz: A few days ago.
22:59.52dafirethe 6th 24 season ... heavy ;)
22:59.59vhaarrheavy indeed
23:00.13Sarozvery heavy
23:00.14vhaarrI can't wait for the rest ><
23:00.15Sarozepi 4 ftw
23:00.19dafirejust finished the 4th episode
23:00.24vhaarrlol
23:00.30vhaarrwait for ep 5, it's just imba
23:00.36Sarozyea
23:00.37vhaarrthey only released 15min of it
23:00.37Sarozboom, kk
23:00.40vhaarrindeed
23:00.42SarozI didnt see the 15min
23:00.42Sarozneed
23:00.53dafirebig badaboom
23:00.55vhaarrI only have a dvd rip
23:01.08Feldiawith bugsack, the fubar plugin displays 2 #s
23:01.11Feldia1/5 for example
23:01.14Feldiawhat does the second # mean?
23:01.15vhaarryes
23:01.21vhaarrit's a dupe counter
23:01.28vhaarrso there has been 1 unique error
23:01.30vhaarrbut it happened 5 times
23:01.31Feldiaah ok
23:01.37dafirei hate setting up my addons... i need an addon that saves all ace2 db settings for all addons and exports them .9
23:02.16dafirethe same for my macros .9
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23:02.19kergothwhy would you lose the settings in the first place?
23:02.23kergothjust back up your WTF dir periodically
23:02.48dafirei travel between two locations .. .9
23:03.23MoonWolfyou can mount up the WTF dir as an external online folder if you want.
23:03.26dafirethe one has a 19" and the other a 24" .9
23:03.46dafirei like widescreen for fubar .9
23:03.59Feldiawtf is .9
23:04.11andremarits :) without shift
23:04.12abyssichatea smile
23:04.25dafirei had wtf in my own svn .. but it didn't worked well .9
23:04.29kergothdeformed smile
23:04.43dafiremaybe i set some kind of rsync for most important sv files .9
23:05.27kergothdafire: would be difficult to keep track of what needs to be the same vs what needs to be different between the machines
23:05.28dafire.9 is a smiley without pressing shift .)
23:06.26kergothcould write a lua script for it, make a config file describing what paths in what savedvars should be the same between teh machines, and what should be local
23:06.31kergoththats probably what i'd do
23:06.31vinaursince when is 9 = )? on my keyboard it's (
23:06.41kergothvinaur: not everyone in here uses an english keyboard
23:06.44Eejfat fingers
23:06.45Feldiaon a none english keyboard I'd imagine
23:06.48dafireyeah .. i guess I'll set up a backup script for addons that collect data and write a small addon that moves fubar icons in the correct directions and call HideText() on the most .9
23:06.57Feldiaseeing as . and : aren't on the same key either..
23:07.02vinaurhmm, which keyboard are you using?
23:07.18dafirei guess I'll do something like that in perl .. not in lua :)
23:07.29Fisker-yay
23:07.32Fisker-patch tomorrow :P
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23:07.50vhaarrlive/beta?
23:07.51dafirei hope it won't hit wowace.com hard this time :)
23:07.58dafire2.0.3 on live
23:08.01vhaarrah
23:08.02dafireeu on wednesday
23:08.12vhaarrNo TOC update required, right?
23:08.18Fisker-20003
23:08.24vhaarrfor fucks sake
23:08.26vhaarrreally?
23:08.29Fisker-although you can run out of date addons :P
23:08.30Fisker-yeah
23:08.33FeldiaI don't think it's required like it was for 2.0
23:08.36Nickenyfikenanyone know about riding 150 skill in 2.0.3? i heard he price is changed...
23:08.44dafireand i need a script to save my keybindings .. :9
23:08.52dafire900->600
23:09.03dafire810->540 with discount
23:09.17CIA-1703hati * r24110 10RaidGroupNumber/ (. RaidGroupNumber.lua RaidGroupNumber.toc libs/): RaidGroupNumber: initial release
23:09.28Insa
23:09.54dafiregot a offer that i can get a ce for €99 .. guess there are many that will take the price
23:09.55vinaurhmm, i might get an epic mount on my alt then...are they changing prices for flying mounts too
23:10.16vhaarrheh
23:10.18vhaarrRaidGroupNumber.IsActive = true;
23:10.21dafireno they make it cheaper to make it cheaper then flying mounnt
23:10.37vinauri thought flying mount was 2k anyway
23:10.37vhaarrah, hm
23:10.56dafirenormal flying mounts are 900 riding, 100 mount .. 60% speed
23:10.56Nickenyfikendafire: ah awsome... im almos lvl59 with my Hunter so epic mount soon
23:11.17vinaurdafire, woot, good new :-)
23:11.17dafireepic are 4800 riding 200 mount and 280% speed afaik
23:11.27vinaurdafire, bad news :-(
23:11.51Eejconsidering 50g in beta is like 10g in live, not a big deal
23:12.26CIA-1703adirelle * r24111 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins-frFR.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: added an option to hide default bank window.
23:12.29vinauroh, well, once that day comes, i'm sure i'll get it somehow
23:12.33dafirei don't think you get that much in the end .9
23:12.36beerkeseems trac is kinda messed up atm
23:12.53beerke<PROTECTED>
23:12.53beerkeOperationalError: database is locked
23:13.41nae-lapadirelle: woo :)
23:14.13beerkebtw, someone said that this mod was better then SCT http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5153
23:14.25beerkeanyone ever tried that MikThingie ?
23:14.52hastepersonal choice, I like it better then SCT at least
23:14.53dafireuse whatever you like more
23:15.27Feldiamy understanding is mik has a few more features, which I personally feel to be unnecessary
23:15.34beerkeI am more interested in how much strain it puts on the system
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23:17.10nae-lapI prefer Miks Battle Text too, as it can combine values
23:17.46yacoobhehe
23:17.50yacoobgotta love discord forums
23:17.52yacoobLoz's minions - team-extreme - keeps telling the users that god is still god, and the Meek Shall Inherit the DUB. If anyone ever enjoyed Hugo Prats "Corto Maltese", I'm sure they will enjoy the display in this thread.. (and spreading across threads on discord mods)
23:18.00CIA-1703neriak * r24112 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_Browse.lua):
23:18.00CIA-17Fence:
23:18.00CIA-17- committed the wrong Browse code
23:18.30dafirei think loz do a great job on his addons.. :9
23:18.32kenlyricyeah, msbt combine values is a huge feature.
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23:19.24yacoobdafire, you're being sarcastic or not? :)
23:19.36grennondoes the Fence guy hang out here?
23:19.55CIA-1703hati * r24113 10RaidGroupNumber/libs/: RaidGroupNumber: externals
23:20.24dafirenot .. they might not be something with a old computer but what you could do with the unitframes and the acrionbar was really great
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23:22.58Barbanusdafire, if you like bloated, memory intensive, slow and laggy unitframes and actionbars, sure, its great.
23:23.14AntiarcOoh, neat
23:23.18AntiarcEach battlegroup has a forum now.
23:23.28yacoobdafire, to be honest:
23:23.40yacoobDAB was as powerful as Flexbar
23:23.48yacoobthe thing it had in advance, was GUI
23:23.59AntiarcDiscord mods were the first to really be heavily customizable
23:24.01yacoobwhich wasn't really THAT needed, you configure things ONCE and you forget it.
23:24.03AntiarcThey were great in that sense
23:24.07dafirewhen i used them they needed much memory.. but i have 2gb :) .. (well wow crashes at 1gb i think) however they were not slow and they were not lagy :9
23:24.11AntiarcBut they were memory hogs like none other.
23:24.17yacoobnow, with DUF - that's really decent work.
23:24.21yacoob(but still, a hog)
23:24.23AntiarcI have 1.5GB of RAM and they noticably slowed me down :)
23:24.34TainDUF is great for what it can do.  But you do pay a hefty price.
23:24.50AntiarcYeah.
23:25.01yacoobbut after a while you realise agUF is just fine with much lower overhead :D
23:25.03yacooband I mean it
23:25.09ckknightP ≠ NP
23:25.11yacoobmost of the eye candy just gets in the way.
23:25.46dafirei liked switching the actions of single buttons depending on target and stuff .9 .. i used flexbar, then dab, then bongos, then bartender2 .. then tinity for 2 days.. then bongos and now bartender3 ;)
23:26.07yacoobbt3 got some good switching? :)
23:26.16TainPeople like it, I personally don't.  I like simple.  I used WatchDog for a long time because it was all text, minimal number of frames.
23:26.31yacoobthere's one thing that Discord did good.
23:26.43yacoobdue to it's ease of configuration, lots of people came and hacked layouts for that
23:26.47yacooband that's GOOD.
23:26.51dafireand right now i have msbt and sct at once and i don't know if thats a good idea ;)
23:27.10TainYou'll tear a hole in the space/time continuum, dafire!
23:27.23kenlyricI'd use msbt if it was on wowace ;)
23:27.27TainAll of reality will scroll off into nothing.
23:27.43yacoobTain, and we'll find out that Discord is spacier on the inside than on the outside :)
23:27.54dafirei think this would cause trouble with grey
23:28.12TainI'd use SCT if the author didn't flip out at MSBT being created.
23:28.18CIA-1703hati * r24114 10RaidGroupNumber/RaidGroupNumber.toc: RaidGroupNumber: .toc corrected
23:28.24CIA-1703rabbit * r24115 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Add AuctionWindowClose ("Bell") as a sound option.
23:28.32ckknightTain: he flipped out?
23:28.58nymbiai like msbt
23:29.04dafirethere were some bad threads in forums
23:29.18TainHe posted that Mik should come up with something original instead of just stealing someone else's addon ideas.
23:29.20dafireabout stealing code and ideas
23:29.30dafiremaybe just ideas
23:29.38dafiredon't remember exactly
23:29.41yacoobBLIZZ STOLE TOO!
23:29.43vhaarrhah
23:29.44yacoobPolice!
23:29.46TainEven though MSBT had added a ton of functionality over what SCT could do at the time.
23:30.06yacoobTain, out of curiosity, what? I tried MSBT once, got nothing special of use to me...?
23:30.13kenlyricyeah, and SCT *still* doesn't have output throttling.
23:30.14kergothmsbt4 has some kick ass features
23:30.18dafirethat was shortly before ace2ing sct ;)
23:30.20kenlyricwhich is MSBTs greatest feature.
23:30.29kergothyeah, the throttling / event consolodation stuff is godlike
23:30.37vhaarreven errormonster has throttling!
23:30.42TainSCT has added a lot since then, multiple scroll frames for different output for example.
23:30.42dafirei'll give it a try now
23:30.50kergoththeres a video for msbt4 somewhere
23:30.52kergothlets see..
23:30.59TainI don't know how the features match up today at all between them.
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23:31.11nymbiayeah.. the part of MSBT that grabbed me was that when i aoe'd, it showed all the damage the spell did, consolidated.  so hot.
23:31.36TainBut I'm just tired of seeing authors bitch about someone stealing their ideas.  You don't like what someone else is doing with "your" idea?  Do it better.
23:31.38dafireckknight: a left or right fubar for icon only plugins would rock :P
23:31.41kergothcheck out http://stage6.divx.com/members/261578/videos/1050056
23:31.45kergoththat shows some of the msbt4 stuff
23:31.53kergothlike the aoe bits nymbia just mentioned
23:32.00ckknightdafire: don't know what that means
23:32.14Chinkuvertical fubar?
23:32.15dafirea vertical bar :)
23:32.25ckknightTain:  I have my own opinions, but I don't have any new ideas, I just take other people's and make them better
23:32.30ckknightoh, not going to happen, dafire
23:32.36dafirei know .)
23:32.40ckknightnot by me, at least
23:32.45yacoobTain, well, he could've patented his idea... if he didn't, welcome to real world :D
23:32.46ckknighthey, if you feel like coding it ;-)
23:33.01kergothTuller: heh, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6707-1.0.html .. doesnt look pretty, but..
23:33.07TainYeah ckk that's the way I think it should be.  At least in the WoW addon area, it's shared ideas and a shared community.
23:33.21Tullerkergoth: yeah I saw that, have not gotten a chance to mess with it yet
23:33.25ckknightpretty much.
23:33.35yacoobhm, how is this paid raid addon doing? :)
23:33.41Tainhaha that video is awesome
23:34.04kergoth:)
23:34.08kergothgmail just growled at me.
23:34.13AntiarcHonestly, people "stealing" ideas and improving them is good. Stealing code is bad, but honestly, claiming ownership of an idea that you aren't making money from and haven't patented is silly. :/
23:34.15kergoth"Grrr! A popup blocker may be preventing Gmail from opening the page."
23:34.35nevcairielhehehe
23:34.38vhaarrGMail should just die.
23:34.45AntiarcIn an open-source hobby community, only good things can come from people cloning and extending projects.
23:34.46TainNo way I loves my gmails.
23:34.49vhaarr*I* control when I want stuff to open in new windows.
23:34.50yacoobwell, you can sue, but, duh... it's VIDEOGAME! HELLO! Reality call!
23:34.56dafirei love gmail too
23:35.00ckknightAntiarc: but if you're allowed to steal, e.g. with GPL code, then it's all fine and dandy
23:35.06vhaarrIf I want a link in a new window, I'll do that manually, thank you.
23:35.08AntiarcIndeed! But that's not stealing.
23:35.12AntiarcThat's taking with permission!
23:35.15ckknightright
23:35.19dafirei even have gmail for my own domain .. it's a beta thing ;)
23:35.32vhaarryeah, yeah, gmail rocks, I use it as well :)
23:35.34dafiremaybe you could apply for wowace.com
23:35.36vhaarrjust that window thing
23:35.37Antiarcyacoob: What would you sue for? Loss of profits? *chortle*
23:35.41kergothgmail's a kick ass web interface.. course i'm not a big fan of web interfaces, i run my mailserver and use mutt :P
23:35.43vinauris anyone using fubar_garbagefu? I'm getting AceOO-2.0:Library "AceDB-2.0" does not exist error on load
23:35.43Arrowmastergmail for your domain? givme
23:35.55Antiarchttp://www.google.com/a/
23:36.00dafirethere is a beta signup somewhere
23:36.06andremardafire: what of the products google has created have ever left beta-stage? :)
23:36.14yacoobAntiarc, moral loss! :D
23:36.18TainOh yeah well I have Microsoft Gmail XP Ultimate Edition Plus
23:36.20yacoobbeing naughty!
23:36.35yacoobor... or... SOMETHING!
23:36.35AntiarcI'm pretty sure Google's founders are still in beta themselves.
23:36.50TainWait what?  My own gmail on my domain?
23:36.58AntiarcYes
23:37.06Antiarctain@tain.com and gmail handles it all
23:37.08AntiarcOr whatever.
23:37.15TainWTF that's like the best thing I've heard in a long time.
23:37.17AntiarcI've set it up for a friend - it's easy and rather slick.
23:37.23yacooband it makes fries too, but you need a special adapter.
23:37.44Tularso, with the latest version of sRaidFrames can u move it to the center for fubar?
23:37.52dafirehttp://mail.google.com/hosted/the-un...quisition.com/
23:37.57dafireoops
23:38.18dafirehttp://mail.google.com/hosted/the-unholy-inquisition.com/
23:39.08dafireyou get an admin to create boxes, forwards and stuff ;9
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23:39.32Tullerhrm, the guy broke /find though
23:39.34TainI'm already signing up.
23:39.52DrZootdo mana gems and health stones share the same cooldown
23:40.01dafireyou need to have dns access to your domain.. and i think it took some month till i got accepted ,9
23:40.18AntiarcIt only took me like 2 days
23:40.45dafireperhaps i signed up before they accepted anyone .9
23:41.18dafireyou can also use the jabber server with that domain .9
23:41.58StephmwTain: only limit on the free hosting is 25 user accounts
23:42.21dafirehm ?  You can create up to 200 user accounts for this domain.
23:42.29*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-10874ap.cable.mindspring.com)
23:42.30StephmwTain: and as dafire says, having control of your DNS really is necessary
23:42.37grennonanyone know of a shorter way of checking if an item is soulbound/quest/conjored/bop other than setting the tooltip to the bag/slot and checking the toolip?
23:42.41Stephmwdafire: mine says 25
23:43.17DrZootis there a library somewhere that will give me the groups of items that trigger various cooldowns?
23:43.35Stephmwdafire: "You can create up to 25 user accounts for this domain."
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23:44.46CIA-1703quetz * r24116 10FelwoodFarmer/FelwoodFarmer.xml: FelwoodFarmer: Fixed text error
23:44.49dafireperhaps they changed the limit.. i got it in july last year
23:46.10Nickenyfiken2.0.3 this week on live?
23:46.15dafireyeah
23:46.39CIA-1703fatherjim * r24117 10loudmouth/loudmouth.toc:
23:46.39CIA-17loudmouth:
23:46.39CIA-17- Updated missing dependency library - AceDebug
23:47.27kenlyricmine says 50.
23:48.53StephmwI don't fill up the 25 anyway
23:50.24kenlyricI forward all of my mail to gmail anyway.
23:50.34kenlyricwonder how I can make it work with custom addresses though.
23:52.08*** join/#wowace ASleep (n=ASleep@c-66-176-109-192.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
23:52.18dafireyou can add addresses you want to send with in options
23:52.37dafireif you get mail to this address and reply it will use the address
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23:57.06vinaurhey, how would i go about informing an author of a bug in their addon?
23:57.19TularShould Chronometer remove timers for DOTs when something dies?
23:57.27kenlyricno.
23:57.36CIA-1703hati * r24118 10RaidGroupNumber/RaidGroupNumber.toc: RaidGroupNumber: externals
23:57.37nymbiavinaur: depends on the author.
23:57.54vinaurnymbia, wmrojer?
23:57.54TularDarn, thats sucks
23:58.17nymbiavinaur: hm.
23:58.22nymbia~seen wmrojer
23:58.41purlnymbia: i haven't seen 'wmrojer'
23:58.56vinaurnymbia, it's a very minor bug. a typo in toc...but crashes addon if it's the only ace addon you're using
23:59.10nymbiavinaur: trac or an existing forum thread
23:59.18nymbiavinaur: oh, then we can fix that.  which addon?
23:59.34vinaurnymbia, FuBar - GarbageFu
23:59.52vinaurline 23 in toc should be libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua instead of libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDDB-2.0.lua

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