irclog2html for #wowace on 20070106

00:00.06krkaseems like t["test"] would be faster than t[1012313]
00:00.17ckknightAileen_: seriously?
00:00.25ckknightAileen_: like reset or what?
00:00.33kergothi'm maintaining a running mean and running stddev in kenergy for energy ticks, but i keep running into an issue with throwing out outliers.. because its a running value, if, say, the first two values are very very low, then the next 10 are higher, then clearly its the first two that were the outliers, but my code would have thrown out the last ones, not the first, as they came in
00:00.48kergothkrka: really?
00:00.55pastamancerhmm
00:01.01Tornhoofwhat test do you perform to single those out?
00:01.19Tornhoofstudent test or whatever it's called?
00:01.22ckknightAileen_: you're going to have to answer...
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00:01.26KaeltenKC_Items has some filtering based ona  bell
00:01.29KarlThePagankergoth, yea because mathematically stddev should be working against a complete set
00:01.40Antiarckergoth: You know that the average tick should be 20. Just filter your first few ticks that aren't close to 20.
00:01.43pastamancerthoughts about adding a "language independent identifier" translation to Babble-Spell?
00:01.48AntiarcAverage unmodified tick, anyway.
00:01.55kergothits my own fault for only maintaining a single number for each, in an attempt to reduce the # of crap being maintained
00:02.04pastamanceror more specifically a "comm channel" translation
00:02.11CIA-1703kagaro * r23645 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: fixed a database init typo
00:02.11KarlThePaganyou should keep a filtered and unfiltered variance (stddev) and figure out if you need to start over because you discarded the wrong ones
00:02.22Aileen_maybe reset... I logged in and my fubar plugins were all on one bar at the top of my screen without any center/left/right alignments (i have a top and bottom bar normally with plugins in all 3 positions on each), other addons like prat, skinner, aguf lost settings and/or had frames moved.  some fubar plugins that were controlling things with profiles had settings all out of whack
00:02.25pastamancerwith fixed-length "names"
00:02.35KarlThePaganbut yea that's not as good as keeping a complete set of 10-20 samples
00:02.41AntiarcAnd with that, I go home!
00:02.42AntiarcNight, folks.
00:02.50Aileen_I spent like a half hour resetting stuff, then logged out and back in and more stuff lost settings
00:03.34ckknightAileen_: send me the SV of an addon that did that.
00:03.48ag`sylvanaar, should I use your prat branch? Is it leet haxor?
00:04.24KarlThePaganKaelten, it looks like if you do ever decide to use multiple filters you should start with a narrow one and then broaden it
00:04.34ckknightAileen_: by send, pastey will be appropriate
00:05.05Aileen_ok
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00:08.06CIA-1703zealotonastick * r23646 10FuBar_LogFu2/ (FuBar_LogFu2.toc LogFu2-enUS.lua LogFu2.lua libs/):
00:08.06CIA-17FuBar_LogFu2:
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00:08.11Aileen_the fubar file was huge (but it was the worst), onebag/onebank were also pretty bad though and they were shorter, here is OneBag:  http://pastey.net/4596
00:09.38Aileen_I've spent about 45 min resettings things before raiding though so the settings themselves look mostly the same
00:13.59Eternally777Why is Gello angry with Ace2?
00:14.00CIA-1703zealotonastick * r23647 10FuBar_LogFu2/ (FuBar_LogFu2.toc LogFu2-enUS.lua LogFu2.lua):
00:14.00CIA-17FuBar_LogFu2:
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00:14.17Eternally777I didn't know he opposed it so strongly...
00:14.53ZealotOnAStickWhere's the post or chat or whatnot showing Gello angry with Ace2?
00:15.04KarlThePaganok Kaelten very good simple example
00:15.17KarlThePagantake your average runecloth market 1.2g stacks
00:15.30KarlThePaganbell curve to 1 stddev around that mean
00:15.33CIA-1703kagaro * r23648 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: name changes for localization
00:15.34Eternally777ZealotOnAStick: http://tinyurl.com/yg8v5n
00:16.02KarlThePaganwith 10 items one 999g cloth would make the 119g stack not be filtered
00:16.31KarlThePaganhowever as the market volume increases you have to post a lot more 999g items
00:16.44KarlThePagani need to write code for it tho excel is crapping out on me
00:16.51[dRaCo]Aileen_: yeah, my profiles screwed up just 10 mins ago
00:17.18Aileen_yay I'm not crazy ;)
00:19.06CIA-1703kagaro * r23649 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: saves stuff with localization in mind
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00:19.19Kaeltenhere is a fun one.
00:19.37KaeltenSeagate says a 300GB + 3.5 inch hard drive within a few years
00:19.45hasteTB*
00:20.05Kaeltenerr ya TB
00:20.07Kaeltensorry
00:20.12KaeltenI'm tired and hurting
00:20.12Kaeltenlol
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00:21.27Nickenyfikenhmm got a error i never encountered before
00:21.37Nickenyfiken"session expired" when i tried to change realm
00:21.55dafirelogin server down
00:22.13dafiremaybe it helps if you get a new ip
00:22.51grollnymbia u around?
00:22.57nymbiagroll: yeah what's up
00:23.09grolljust a quick question and a request :D
00:23.14nymbiasure
00:23.26grollspellbinder how can i reset a keybinding? :P i bound mouse 3 but cant get rid of it again :P
00:23.41grollalso make it so one can use the scroll back and forth to be bound
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00:24.25nymbialeft click on the button to set it to nothing.  then you gotta hit set key to make it take effect
00:25.10grollah oke
00:25.33nymbiahmm.. i'll take a look at the scroll wheels ;)
00:25.39KarlThePaganAileen_, hey what's the pastey for your settings?
00:25.43grollthanks :D
00:25.51KarlThePagannm i found
00:26.19nuOHEPnymbia, can you please add gfrostpp and gnpp to pt-2.0? "13456:2600 13458:2600" to "Potion - Buff Elemental" set?
00:26.27KarlThePaganodd
00:26.32KarlThePaganwell not a realm name change
00:26.36nymbianuOHEP: sure.
00:26.54CIA-1703saroz * r23650 10sRaidFrames/ (5 files):
00:26.54CIA-17sRaidFrames:
00:26.54CIA-17- Added ability to add and change layouts, you can make sRF be a pure dispell grid now, or anything you want! (with a bit of skills) - so far only CTRA layout is added.
00:26.55CIA-17- Fix range check, I think
00:26.55CIA-17- Renamed "Layout" menu to "Position"
00:26.56CIA-17- Remove ProximityLib from toc
00:28.00[dRaCo]yay, new srf
00:28.42nuOHEPnymbia, thx a lot... and also adding "12820:35" to "Potion - Buff Attack Power" would be cool
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00:30.00Aileen_oh, an addendum to my profile oddities.  most things were set to use "Aileen of Argent Dawn" as a profile, but were set to "Default" when i logged in, and going back to "Aileen of Argent Dawn" did not reset things back to normal (I'm guessing because it was really the "Aileen - Argent Dawn" new profile, not the old one)
00:30.32Aileen_the pastey to the OneBag SV was http://pastey.net/4596
00:31.07KarlThePaganyea thx
00:32.03KarlThePagannot sure what could cause that
00:32.11KarlThePaganin the past there have been a few trippy things
00:32.19KarlThePaganmy realm name has changed on me twice
00:32.35KarlThePaganfrom "Kil'Jaeden " to "Kil'Jaeden" to "Kil'jaeden"
00:32.53KarlThePagankj hates players it's a fact
00:33.33Amadeohttp://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-January/msg00091.html
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00:34.25CIA-1703kagaro * r23651 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: fixed localization
00:34.43ckknightAmadeo: good move, imho
00:35.27ckknightAileen_: eep, fixing
00:35.36AmadeoI like it also
00:36.33CIA-1703nymbia * r23652 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua: SpellBinder: Add mousewheel support.
00:36.47grollyay :D
00:36.52Yinchienymbia: is spellbinder similair as clique?
00:37.21CodayusYinchie: No.
00:37.25nymbiaYinchie: nope.  it's just a gui for binding spells/macros/items to keys without putting em on an action bar
00:37.26CIA-1703dorje * r23653 10MSBTCooldowns/ (. MSBTCooldowns.lua MSBTCooldowns.toc):
00:37.26CIA-17MSBTCooldowns
00:37.27CIA-17- Ok. This should finally sort out any lib issues
00:37.32CodayusSpellbinder is very cool though.  :-)
00:37.42Yinchienymbia: ah ok thx. might just give it a try :)
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00:37.52nymbia:)
00:38.05Yinchieactionbar becoming obsolete in my ui setup sooner or later >.<
00:38.11kagarofinished fixing localizations for cart stats and fishing
00:38.17Yinchiemore screenspace ftw
00:38.48kagarowho has a non us wow client they can help debug cart map problem with?
00:38.51grollspellbinder is what's gonan get rid of all my buttons on my screen :D
00:39.30CIA-1703ckknight * r23654 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - hopefully fix database upgrading
00:39.39ckknightAileen_: should be fixed
00:39.41ckknightsorry about that.
00:39.55Nickenyfikenstupid login server :-/
00:40.11kagarowho has been working on babble-zone?
00:40.17jaeteffs, EU realms down, and Beta realms down as well
00:40.28Fisker-eu realms not down :P
00:40.31Fisker-just the login server ;(
00:40.34kagarobeta shutdown on me :(
00:41.04kagaroand it appears as thoough the model/texture file for the minimap player icon can be access to figure out a direction :(
00:41.12kagaro*cant
00:41.20CIA-1703nymbia * r23655 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: a couple potion updates.
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00:42.02Aileen_cool :)  my SV are sacrificed so others may live ;)
00:42.53kagarock: have you been working on babble-zone ?
00:42.59ckknightno
00:43.01ckknightwhy?
00:43.14kagarojust wondering who was, and if they were gona add in subzones
00:43.22ckknightnope
00:43.36ckknightbtw, Babble-2.2 is officially my project, but with many contributors
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00:46.03beerkei am still waiting on babble- UIError :P
00:46.08kagarock: there is some kinda localization problem in Notes btw .. havent been able to get anyone on the eu servers to see what is messed .. causing touristlib to not get the right zone
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00:46.37ckknightit's worked from my tests *shrug*
00:47.12ag`Soooo I can't connect to EU? :S
00:47.19GagorianI can't either :/
00:47.34dafirei can't either
00:47.58ag`_But I need to test my code!
00:48.30hasteuse the PTR? isn't it up now?
00:48.54ag`_I am not sure actually, I don't have the client around :/
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00:49.08dafirekagaro: in  Cartographer_Fishing:LOOT_OPENED() you need to change L:HasTranslation to L:HasReverseTranslation ;)
00:49.53kagarodafire: update your svn copy
00:50.20dafireok .9
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00:50.51dafirehm.. that tsvncache process sometimes locks up blocking my explorer .7
00:51.08HjalteKirkburn: You're here?
00:52.52KirkburnI am
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00:53.37HjalteKirkburn: I just downloaded CF2.. But I can't figure out how to do step two. Is it still needed with version 2?
00:54.12AmadeoDon't go in there, Sylar will kill you!
00:54.35grollyay for blizzard! :P
00:54.45kagarock: I think i found the problem in iterateNearbyByNotes and why tourist isnt finding them
00:55.41CIA-1703ckknight * r23656 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - fix for foreign clients with minimap icons running away.
00:55.46KarlThePagandafire, I've had vista's explorer kill tsvn
00:55.51ckknightkagaro: too late.
00:55.57kagaroyup i see that
00:56.00KirkburnHjalte, see the website
00:56.15CIA-1703antiarc * r23657 10Sanity2/SanityDisplay.lua: Sanity2: Fixes to my drycode earlier. Only one error!
00:56.18KirkburnI take that back
00:56.22KirkburnSee the file included in ClearFont2
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00:56.33kagarock: that fix wont work for some mods
00:56.55ckknightkagaro: why not?
00:57.17HjalteKirkburn: I did check both website and readme, but the website said to make four copies of clearfont.ttf file which is as far as i can see, not included in clearfont 2. The readme said to do the same four files, but i dont know what file to copy :)
00:57.21kagarothose currentYardWidth values use the current zone your in right ?
00:57.26ckknightyes
00:57.33ckknightah, crap, you're right.
00:57.34kagaronot the selected map
00:57.55kagarothe fix is this: take out the reverse translation for the call to tourist
00:58.18kagarothe problem was tourist has localized values for the yards, and you were changign it to english before you called it
00:58.39CIA-1703ckknight * r23658 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - fix properly this time
00:59.11kagaro:)
00:59.53ckknightaw man, WoW's down
00:59.57kagarodoes anyone kow if there is a way to determine the compas direction your toon is pointing?
01:00.06ckknightoh yea, you can
01:00.12kagarohow ck?
01:00.18ckknightcheck AlphaMap, it has code for it
01:00.27ckknightit gets the rotation of the model on the minimap
01:00.47KarlThePaganwoo
01:00.53ckknightKarlThePagan: ?
01:00.53Gnarfozcouldn't one make a crude overlay compass that way?
01:00.59ckknightyes, Gnarfoz
01:01.01ckknightAlphaMap does
01:01.02KarlThePagannoone's used that to make a waypoint mod?
01:01.03Gnarfozlike... having a big arrow pointing north?
01:01.06Gnarfozoh
01:01.07ckknightit's highly inefficient.
01:01.07Gnarfoz:>
01:01.10KarlThePaganah
01:01.28kagaroi myself want the directional point so i can create fishing node notes a few yards forward from you
01:01.29Gnarfozguess so, but it'd be nice for those... "you'll find it NORTH of troll camp X" quests
01:01.30ckknightwell, you could, actually.
01:01.36ckknightwhat AlphaMap does is inefficient
01:01.41ckknightcause it's a lot of SetTexCoord stuff
01:01.54ckknightbut someone could make a waypoint deal or an overlay compass quite easily.
01:01.57Gnarfozwhat has been done can be re-done ;) was ju st curious though
01:02.15KarlThePaganyea an overlay compass / bar would be pretty nifty
01:02.17ag`_Will the raid header allow for sorting by class in 2.0.3?
01:02.21Gnarfozperhaps some day when I have time to spare I'll try for excercise :>
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01:02.38ckknighthey Tekkub
01:02.38Gnarfozback to slaving away moving my servers together :\
01:02.57Gnarfozi HATE major version upgrades... php forum software breaks so easily
01:02.58Gnarfoz;>
01:03.31CIA-1703aznamir * r23659 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua:
01:03.31CIA-17PallyPower:
01:03.31CIA-17- Buff bar now displays only classes you're assigned to buff.
01:04.02Fisker-I want to rape people
01:04.30KirkburnLovely.
01:04.57KirkburnHjalte, sorry, it changed for ClearFont2
01:05.10Antiar2For text colors, what's the format? |cRRGGBBAA?
01:05.28KirkburnAssuming you use the default, you want to use Calibri.ttf
01:05.38KarlThePaganAntiar2, AARRGGBB i think
01:05.42KarlThePagansec
01:05.51Antiar2Aha, that'd explain it.
01:05.52Antiar2Thanks
01:05.53HjalteKirkburn: Okay, thanks :)
01:05.57KarlThePaganyea - local cRED = "|cFFFF0000"
01:06.42KarlThePaganrewriting Grouper's guts to be more... nifty
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01:06.59KarlThePagantrashing tables left and right
01:07.11AntiarcThanks.
01:12.09todd`are there any threat meters other than KTM? aced or not, because KTM is ugly as hell :(
01:14.18Hjaltetodd`: There's a beta version of ktm with a new gui
01:15.39Nickenyfikenomg can they fix the stupid login server :-/
01:15.44todd`ah
01:15.51todd`have you seen it?
01:16.12nymbiahmm.. who broke baggins?
01:16.37Chinkukagaro: is that notes problem concerning tourist and zones you mentioned earlier already done?
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01:16.57kagaroyeh ck checked in a fix 10 mins ago
01:17.27ckknightI blame the foreigners for it being wrong in the first place
01:17.29ckknightthey should just learn English and be done with it
01:17.35nymbialol
01:17.40Chinkuhrhr, what was it then?
01:18.03Hjaltenymbia: baggins broken?
01:18.04kagarock: what alpha map does for the facing direction i cant use. Alpha map replaces the minimap object with its own and re-implments all the functioanlity
01:18.29ckknightkagaro: but you can take the direction thing.
01:18.31nymbiaHjalte: probably not. lemme see.
01:18.32ckknightthat's all you need, right?
01:18.52kagaroill try it, but if I recall GetChildren on the minimap returned nothing
01:19.17ckknightfalse.
01:21.35kagaroim gona try it now
01:22.00kagaroohh no it was GetRegions on the minimap had no children
01:24.24kagarooh snap it worked
01:24.53kagaronow to figure out if its returning radians or degrees
01:24.59kagarolooks like radians
01:25.17ckknightmath.cos, math.sin are radians
01:25.23ckknightsin, cos are degrees
01:25.23ckknightfun fact.
01:25.58kagaroyou a math guy ck?
01:26.15ckknightspecifically a comp sci guy, but I'm pretty good at math
01:26.42mjckergoth: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'olden' (nil value)
01:26.45ckknightfrankly I consider CS as part of the applied maths
01:27.12kagaroim at point x,y  my direction is 5.55  i want to calc a point 5 yards forward from my current location
01:27.31Ordogkagaro is a bot! ^^
01:27.47ckknightkagaro: x,y = yardify(x,y)
01:27.54Ordogare you tinkering at the rotating minimap ?
01:28.13ckknightkagaro: x,y = x+math.cos(rad)*5, y+math.sin(rad)*5
01:28.18KarlThePaganckknight, that's because they don't teach you anything about software engineering in a CS degree
01:28.18ckknightdone.
01:28.29KarlThePaganor rarely
01:28.31ckknightKarlThePagan: actually at my school, they do
01:28.36ckknightsenior-level stuff
01:28.42ckknightso next semester for me, afaik
01:28.54KarlThePagan1,2 or 4 semesters worth?
01:29.08ckknightI'm on a special schedule, so I don't know
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01:29.23KarlThePaganhmm how many years then? 1/2 - 2?
01:29.28KarlThePagantypically
01:29.30ckknightI don't know
01:29.44ckknightI've only done half a semester thus far
01:29.46KarlThePaganwsu seemed to be around 1.5 years of basic sft eng stuff
01:29.56KarlThePaganneeds to be twice that at least imo
01:30.03ckknightno software engineering stuff yet
01:30.15kagarock: thanks
01:30.20KarlThePaganbut it's cool you'll probably learn enough doing ace
01:30.30Nickenyfikenckknight: i have a question about the coding tips "Recycle tables". In the example there is a local function MyFunction() and the advice is to declare the table outside the function. If i use a namespace then i should have MyAddon.table = {} and then MyAddon:MyFuction and not self.table = {} inside MyAddon:MyFunction right?
01:30.55ckknightNickenyfiken: or make it locl.
01:30.57ckknightlocal*
01:31.03ckknightlocal myTable = {}
01:31.10ckknightfunction MyAddon:MyFunction() etc end
01:31.49Nickenyfikenbut if i need to access that table anywhere in the namespace? For example in MyAddon:Function2
01:32.05ckknighteither put it above all functions or declare it as part of the namespace.
01:33.02Nickenyfikenah ok
01:33.11KarlThePaganand don't return it and expect to keep it around
01:33.20KarlThePaganreturn and discard asap or etc etc
01:33.24KarlThePaganall in the tips isn't it?
01:34.08Nickenyfikenwell the data is going into self.db (AceDB) in the end of the function
01:34.36ckknightNickenyfiken: then you're not recycling and that tip doesn't apply to you.
01:34.48Mikmaanyone else has problems on login to EU wow?
01:34.58ckknightMikma: that and beta are down.
01:35.04Mikmadamnit
01:35.23Mikmamy wife can continue playing because she's still logged in
01:35.32Nickenyfikenonly login server down
01:35.35Mikmai did quit and load new addons and can't get back in anymore :P
01:36.07mjckergoth: it screwed up when I zoned into bwl too
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01:43.45CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23660 10Prat/Prat/modules/ (ChannelSticky.lua Unused/ChannelSticky2.lua): Prat: Revert the sticky caps feature - doesnt play well with others
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01:44.37CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23661 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/ChannelNames.lua): Prat: cleaned up long dereference chains, fixed whisper mixup
01:45.11AmadeoWhat email clients do people use these days, or does everyone just use Gmail's webmail instead?
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01:45.37MikmaI use osx builtin Mail and Firefox
01:46.08AmadeoI'm debating setting up POP for Gmail...I usually just go to gmail.com
01:46.10GnarfozThe Bat! :>
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01:46.17Gnarfozhate web mail :|
01:46.37sylvanaarag`_: late reply - sure use the branch
01:46.37Tembut Gmail's web interface is the win
01:46.37TainI love gmail being on the web.  Get at it from anywhere!
01:46.54ag`_sylvanaar: ok:)
01:46.55Gnarfoztoo bad it's not imap :>
01:47.04GnarfozI can get at my mails from everywhere that way, too :D
01:47.32AmadeoGmail has the best webmail interface yet
01:47.40Amadeoeverything else sucks!
01:47.51KarlThePaganoutlook web access is a nightmare
01:48.08KarlThePaganit's basically a crappy hotmail
01:49.36AmadeoI hate using my Yahoo account, and the new beta mail sucks too
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01:51.01nymbiagmail's awesome.  and actually has POP support.  therefore, it wins.
01:51.35TularIs there any fix for the offset notes in Cartographer?
01:51.50KarlThePaganno, maps changed :/
01:52.01KarlThePaganyou mean instance notes i assume
01:52.08Tularyeah
01:52.18KarlThePaganyea the maps have a new orientation
01:52.24TularI hope its fixed soon :)
01:52.29nymbiamost just need minor tweaks
01:52.41KarlThePaganexcept sunken temple for example ;)
01:52.48HexzAnyone heard anything about FuBars and lockpicking conflict?
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01:54.37CIA-1703toadkiller * r23662 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua:
01:54.37CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0
01:54.37CIA-17-17344:61 Candy Cane
01:55.08Fisker-I
01:55.09Fisker-WANT
01:55.12Fisker-SERVERS
01:55.55Tembeta servers still down?
01:56.06NickenyfikenEU login down
01:56.06Fisker-yeah also them
01:56.11Fisker-but eu login servers are down
01:56.12Fisker-:(
01:56.23Nickenyfikenit is the same login server right?
01:57.19Ordogcan logon to beta but not to live
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01:57.46Mikmai can login to beta also, but no servers available
02:01.33Fisker-bah
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02:01.45Fisker-doesn't list my realm as having a problem with login(lol bs) :(
02:01.46CIA-1703kagaro * r23663 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: places fish nodes now in the *gasp* actual water
02:02.20kagarook, now the fish nodes actually show up in the water
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02:02.44Nickenyfikenhmm ok?
02:03.03kagarothey were showing up before where you were casting from
02:03.13Fisker-ooooh
02:03.16Fisker-authenticating
02:05.00Goebwhy do saved variables sometimes just... not load
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02:05.30kagarohey is there a stoneskin eel fishing node?
02:05.49GoebI seem to have problems with random ace addons loading up with default settings... even tho the SV directory has a lua for that addon...
02:06.37KarlThePaganGoeb, I think i saw ck fix something related to that
02:06.53KarlThePaganper-character profile in acedb maybe... ckknight ^^?
02:06.55ckknightGoeb: it's been fixed, upgrade AceDB
02:07.04KarlThePaganye
02:07.07Ominoushmm is anyones blizzard updater for beta working?
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02:10.39Goebacedb... right
02:11.30Fisker-why Ominous ?
02:11.40Ominousas mine isnt
02:11.48Ominousi should have said eu
02:12.01Hajitoruskagaro: there are stonescale nodes in azshara
02:12.09Goeberr, how long ago ck?
02:12.20kagarodo you know what they exactly call them ?
02:12.27ckknightGoeb: an hour?
02:12.29GoebI have ace2 23654
02:12.31Hajitorusgimme a few
02:12.32ckknightgive or take
02:12.36Goeblemme update again.
02:12.52Goebyeah that's latest in /files
02:13.12ckknightGoeb: yea, that's it.
02:13.14ckknightGoeb: send me the SV of an addon that reset itself.
02:13.29Goebseveral did... I'll find a small one
02:14.47Goebhttp://ace.pastey.net/4600
02:15.13GoebI just noticed at the bottom... currentProfile looks wrong
02:15.19CIA-1703kagaro * r23664 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: added stonescale eel swarm
02:15.29Gngskfishing <3
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02:16.00ckknightGoeb: looks right...
02:16.08kagaroive won the contest twice
02:16.18ckknightGoeb: how does it look wrong?
02:16.42GoebI didn't set it to by character
02:17.10Gngskkagaro, I almost won it once, but I caught a rare fish instead of a tasteyfish which lead to my loss
02:17.57ckknightGoeb: what happens if you set it back to Default?
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02:18.11CIA-1703kagaro * r23665 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: added zg fishing nodes
02:18.13ckknighthey chip
02:18.14Goebgonna try that now... (got booted ...)
02:19.35jkwIs the author of Talented (Jerry?) online?
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02:20.08jkwI can't spend my talent points with it :P
02:21.23nymbiajerry doesnt use irc
02:22.38jkw:/
02:22.44jkwGot his phone number?
02:22.47jkwj/k
02:22.48jkw;P
02:22.52nymbia;)
02:23.01jkwDoes he got any email then?
02:23.18nymbiaprobably just try a forum PM
02:23.30jkwgoing to try the trac thingy
02:23.33Fisker-Q: What sound does a baby make in the microwave?
02:23.33Fisker-A: I'm not sure I was too busy masturbating at the time.
02:23.40Fisker-Guess where i copied that from
02:24.02CIA-1703toadkiller * r23666 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc AutoBarProfile.lua Core.lua):
02:24.02CIA-17AutoBar:
02:24.03CIA-17- Update cooldown & counts during combat.
02:25.25ckknightFisker-: bash.org?
02:25.47Fisker-nah
02:25.48Fisker-4chan.org
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02:27.17CIA-1703antiarc * r23667 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: Added a toggle to show free slots rather than taken slots on the FuBar entry.
02:30.25ckknighthttp://bash.org/?715285 <-- hehe, lol
02:34.12nymbiarofl ckknight
02:36.06Ordoghm theres a new breaking news about "an error with authentication" and "hardware issues ... realms taken down listed below"
02:36.16Fisker-well
02:36.17Ordogit even includes a typo!
02:36.24Fisker-atleast the new beta patch is up
02:36.41Fisker-but the tracker is down
02:36.42Fisker-:(
02:37.01ckknightbeta patch?
02:37.19ckknightpatchnotes pee-ell-zee
02:37.45Gnarfozjust revision, no minor -> no official patchnotes
02:37.46Fisker-There are no such thing
02:37.55GnarfozWoR has unoffical ones, as usual
02:38.01ckknightoh well, I'll make a diff.
02:38.05Gnarfozhttp://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2883
02:38.05Fisker-I'm talking about a new patch Gnarfoz
02:38.11Gnarfozhm
02:38.15Fisker-2.0.3.6299
02:38.19Fisker-an 8MB patch
02:38.19Gnarfozyea?
02:38.24Gnarfoza new revision of 2.0.3
02:38.33Gnarfozoh
02:38.36Gnarfozanother new one
02:38.36Gnarfoz;p
02:38.42Gnarfozstill 2.0.3 tho
02:38.46Fisker-indeed
02:38.47Fisker-yeah
02:38.53Mikmalol
02:38.53ckknightI want 2.0.4
02:38.54Mikmaanother update
02:38.56Fisker-Probably gonna be 2.0.4 in a week or so
02:38.58ckknightI hope that's the TBC one.
02:39.04Mikmai just updated my TBC like 30mins ago
02:39.08Mikmanow i have to update it agaun
02:39.09GnarfozI want... whatever. TBC for starters. live 2.0.1 is boring
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02:39.18Fisker-TBC sucks
02:39.19Kemayonevcairiel: When do these problems occur?
02:39.23Mikma2.0.3.6299
02:39.25Fisker-the beat of course
02:39.27Fisker-beta*
02:39.32Nickenyfiken"We have received reports like this from some players, but others seem able to connect so we are investigating. Please try restarting your computer and deleting or renaming the WTF and Cache folders in the World of Warcraft directory to rule out any possible file corruptions causing the issue."
02:39.45Nickenyfikenthats what they want players to do when servers down?
02:39.46Mikmayeah right
02:39.56Nickenyfikenhahaha
02:40.00Mikmaremember to reinstall your OS and update your computer too
02:40.00Fisker-yes that is obviously the problem
02:40.03Fisker-yeah
02:40.22Gnarfozrouting problems _can_ be client side, or whatever. they'll have to rule every possible thing out
02:40.24Fisker-And do some digging in your backyard, perhaps your isp didn't dig down your cables properly
02:40.40Fisker-the cache nor the wtf files has nothing to do with routing
02:40.41Azurewraththe new tbc patch sucks... they changed Aldor and Scryer Tailor Recipes...
02:40.54OrdogCodex: Prayer of Shadow Protection II no longer drops at a ridiculous rate. Backpacks everywhere cheered.
02:40.56GnarfozFisker-: restarting your computer might.
02:40.57Ordoghaha
02:41.02Fisker-yeah
02:41.47ckknightor before TBC
02:42.02Gnarfoz(obviously WTF at least ist unrelated, who ever knows what exactly the cache stores in total, maybe it caches server lists, too and they changed some IPs around? you never know :D)
02:42.34Ordoggoing for a reboot ...
02:42.44Fisker-I'm not gonna bother
02:42.44Fisker-:P
02:42.54Gnarfozme neither, but I'm not even trying to log in anyway
02:43.06ckknighthttp://ace.pastey.net/4602 <-- patchnotes for beta
02:43.09ckknighterr
02:43.13ckknightdiff of framexml
02:43.20Gnarfozlol
02:43.22ckknightI mean
02:43.30Nickenyfikenhaha
02:43.45nymbiathey're patch notes!  in a way..
02:43.47grennonckknight: more warrior nerfs
02:43.54grennonckknight: thanks for the heads up
02:43.57Gnarfozmost people long for talent bugfixes, new items, stuff like that - ckknight is fine with a framexml diff
02:43.57Ordoghm im at my update record atm
02:43.59Fisker-already got the 2.0.3.6299 patch ckknight?
02:44.00Gnarfoz;]
02:44.03ckknightyea.
02:44.07ckknightonly 9 megs
02:44.26Fisker-well it's broken here
02:44.30Fisker-so thought it was for you too
02:44.41ckknightnot for me
02:44.44ckknightI'm on a Mac, though
02:44.45Fisker-"so what's new"?
02:44.45Fisker-:P
02:45.19ckknightbugfixes from the diff, as far as I can tell
02:45.27ckknightspecifically regarding the Raid UI and the LFG UI
02:45.35CIA-1703quetz * r23668 10FelwoodFarmer/ (FelwoodFarmer.toc localisation.deDE.lua):
02:45.35CIA-17FelwoodFarmer:
02:45.35CIA-17- Added deDE localisation (thanks Filion of Perenolde(EU))
02:46.08ckknightbtw: realms still not up
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02:47.08Mikmathis sucks. i was gonna code my actionbar-mod but can't get in
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02:47.33jkwI refuse to log out
02:47.34jkw:P
02:47.42jkwheard the login server is screwed again
02:47.48ckknightnot for me,
02:47.50ckknightworks fine.
02:47.54jkwus or eu?
02:47.59Mikmabloody US
02:48.01MikmaanUS
02:48.05jkw<- eu
02:48.10jkwalways screwed
02:48.36Ordogbeta patch tracker down for me ...
02:49.41Nickenyfikenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCWpE_cqnuU LOL!
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02:52.08Gamefaqthe game server are up and running fine but they have problems with the eu autentification servers...
02:52.27CIA-1703saroz * r23669 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua:
02:52.27CIA-17sRaidFrames:
02:52.27CIA-17- Fix taint issue, many thanks to people from the forums
02:52.27CIA-17- Try to fix range check, yet again
02:52.46Fisker-grennon
02:52.47ckknightno one cares about eu
02:52.47ckknightwith your silly various cheese
02:52.47ckknightcheeses*
02:52.54Fisker-we warriors and rogues need to stick together
02:53.10grennonFisker-: rogues take my t3 tokens, burn in hell
02:53.14ckknighthttp://bash.org/?714660 <-- lol.
02:53.21Gamefaqyou don´t like cheese?
02:53.23Fisker-Don't blame rogues :(
02:53.25Fisker-Blame blizzard
02:53.34Fisker-Besides be happy it's rogues
02:53.37grennonnaxx does have a weird design loot wise
02:53.46grennontheres are 3-4 drops per boss good for warriors
02:54.00Fisker-They're usually less "omfg mine" and more "Well the tanks need it"
02:54.00grennon1-2 for rogues
02:54.07Gamefaqcheese is brainfood ck! ;)
02:54.18ckknightAmerican Cheese is.
02:54.24grennonscrews up point systems with the outgoing vs incoming dkp with no perboss prorating
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02:54.36ckknightnot your silly Goat, Head, Feta, Brie, etc.
02:54.37MikmaNickenyfiken: I call and raise with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoMtPFtEg0
02:55.18CIA-1703kemayo * r23670 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Make caching more pervasive.
02:56.00Fisker-I still like blizzard's design concerning druids
02:56.12Fisker-"Hey lets make this Rogue/Warrior tree"
02:56.15Gamefaqbtw. kemayo i got errors from quixote with you previous commit
02:56.24Kaeltenmigrains suck
02:56.27Fisker-Requires 1/6 of the other classes trees combined, and still stronger
02:56.31MikmaKaelten: true
02:56.36KemayoGamefaq: Yeah, others have reported it.  Any particular steps to reproduce?
02:56.36Fisker-best idea ever
02:56.54Gamefaqjust log in and hover over the fubar plugin
02:56.59KemayoHuh.
02:57.15KemayoI can't reproduce that.  :P
02:57.48KemayoElkano was having errors when zoning in and out of instances.  I can't reproduce that either.  ;_;
02:57.56Gamefaqif i could login now i could post you the error
02:58.19Gamefaqor mhh bugsack should have a copy of it isn´t it?
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02:58.26Gamefaqwait
02:59.03ckknightGamefaq: I keep getting incompatible encoding from you
02:59.07ckknightuse UTF-8
02:59.15KaeltenI squinted the whole way for 4 hours of driving, my muscles hate me
02:59.48Gamefaqckknight: lol
03:00.06ckknightGamefaq: not meant to be a joke...
03:00.24Mikmautf-8 and irc don't match :P
03:00.31Fisker-æøå
03:00.33Fisker-HAH!
03:01.03Gamefaqckknight: i use UTF-8 say this other translators :)
03:01.14ckknightGamefaq: on IRC.
03:01.25ckknightsee, I see Fisker-'s stuff fine.
03:01.38Mikmaäöå
03:01.40Gnarfozirc has no pre-defined charset
03:01.41ckknightümlaut
03:01.52ckknightGnarfoz: that means you should use UTF-8
03:01.54Gnarfozis this channel requiring utf-8 now?
03:01.58Thorgardkergoth!
03:01.59ckknightum, yes.
03:02.01Gnarfozno it does bloody well not
03:02.03Gnarfoz:p
03:02.05Gnarfozmean that
03:02.07Gnarfozrequire, it may
03:02.09Gnarfoz;]
03:02.29Fisker-Well UTF-8 is mainly for foreign languages, no?
03:02.31ckknightuse UTF-8, or if you want, ASCII
03:02.35ckknightFisker-: yep.
03:03.02beerkesigh at horde xploiting wsg ...
03:03.08Fisker-awesome
03:03.19Trancerwell at least it's horde for a change ;)
03:03.29Fisker-I remember a wsg where we all reported the cheater :D
03:03.31Trancerand not some goddamn bubbleboy on a rooftop ;)
03:03.35Fisker-then he left wsg and we lost
03:03.40beerkein all my experiences it was 80% horde xploiting
03:03.54beerkeonly exploit alli side i reasonable seen was roof
03:03.54Trancer80% alliance here, but I play Horde :p
03:04.07Tranceralthough I saw alliance exploiting aswell as horde while playing Alliance
03:04.13Gamefaqkemayo: found the errors see query
03:04.14beerkenow it is in the water, over the gate at start and so on
03:04.23Trancerhehe, they all do that over the gate shit now
03:04.27Gnarfozalliance is horde and vice versa (the players)
03:04.39Fisker-I don't know how to jump over the gate :(
03:04.48Gnarfozpress the jump key ;]
03:04.49Gnarfoz;D
03:04.59Fisker-tried that
03:05.08Thorgardkergoth, ping
03:05.35kergothTalented confuses me
03:05.55kergothokay, i can create a template and cant apply it, since i dont have all the points yet.. so how do i spend the talent point i just got from leveling? modify the template and apply?
03:06.04kergothThorgard, pong
03:06.06Fisker-WTF
03:06.08Fisker-i got in!
03:06.22Fisker-i'd try logging in on eu now :P
03:06.28Thorgardkergoth, found out something interesting about kenergy a moment ago. ;P
03:07.00Thorgardkergoth, apparently it doesn't care if the energy tick is mine or my party's. ;P Got two energy users in my party and it's trying to time the bar after their energy gains/losses or something. :o
03:07.10Fisker-nice
03:07.13Fisker-got 31k honor now
03:07.21Fisker-i'm considering going dual HWL daggers :P
03:07.54kagaro|foodFikser: dul fist weapons ftw
03:08.38kergothThorgard, hahahah, damnit
03:08.51Fisker-Mutilate should be pretty sick raid wise :o
03:09.29CIA-1703kergoth * r23671 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: preset the count/sum/sumsq for one previous energy tick.
03:09.45AntiarcMutilate ain't bad for raids
03:09.49ThorgardI was wondering why the bar was popping up mid-flight in caster form randomly.
03:09.50AntiarcIt's not quite combat, but it's potent.
03:10.02ThorgardSo I turned on the debugging and saw lots of energy gains and losses. ;P
03:10.27CIA-1703kergoth * r23672 10kEnergy/tick.lua: kEnergy: make sure unit is player, damnit.
03:10.41kergothThorgard, try that :)
03:10.47ThorgardWill do.
03:11.03kergoththanks for the testing, havent gotten much input on it so far
03:11.11ThorgardAye, no problem.
03:12.41ckknightbtw, ping me when beta's up.
03:13.12Fisker-there's a hunter here with an unknown server :P
03:13.18Fisker-Name-?
03:16.02Fisker-then again i'd like some HWL armor too for +20 stamina :P
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03:20.32Gamefaqahhh login works again on eu servers :)
03:21.25break19hmm... here's an interesting idea for an addon, tho not sure if it's possible, or even feasible... a minimap-syle view of the zone as the worldmap...
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03:21.54CIA-1703karlthepagan 07Karl * r23673 10GrouperLFG/GrouperLFG/ (Core.lua GrouperAce.lua GrouperCore.lua GrouperLFG.toc):
03:21.54CIA-17GrouperLFG:
03:21.55CIA-17<PROTECTED>
03:22.03Thraebreak19: That's exactly what Yatlas is.
03:22.03KarlThePaganwheeeeee
03:22.16break19Thrae: oh really? *goes to look at yatlas*
03:22.32ThraeIt uses the Minimap textures for the zone. Can't show you minimap dots of course, that's just not in the API.
03:23.11KarlThePagandoes yatlas pull from the data files now?
03:23.33xlviiwas there a recent uh.. ag_uf scaling change?
03:24.06ThraeKarlThePagan: Not sure...probably not, I think the normal minimap textures are tiny.
03:24.36ThraeWhy would Blizzard store huge, hi-res versions in the MPQs?
03:24.56pastamancerThrae: the fully-zoomed-in minimap textures are pretty detailed
03:25.21ThraeMmmm that's true.
03:28.10break19Thrae: so it cant show me party member locations? ok..
03:28.37Thraebreak19: Yes it can, since you can see them on the regular World Map / BG map
03:28.58Thraebreak19: It shows you all the dots that would regularly be on the World Map / Zone map.
03:29.17Kaeltenckknight: dewdrop accepts names with spaces in it right?
03:29.23Kaeltenor key rather
03:29.38break19Thrae: then what were you referring to with the minimap dots? the pings?
03:29.42ckknightyes, Kaelten
03:29.51ckknightKaelten: they're transparently converted to dashes now
03:30.01Thraebreak19: Find Herbalism, Find Minerals, Track Humanoids, etc.
03:30.26break19oh, those.. i didnt expect it could.. but anything the regular world map can show, can be shown correct?
03:30.38ThraeYes. Try it out.
03:30.45break19you can bet on it :)
03:32.55Kaeltenckknight: there was acedb changes?
03:33.01ckknightKaelten: yep.
03:33.06pastamancercan anyone using Grid r23643 confirm that the layout is being reloaded properly when entering a BG?
03:33.08ckknightKaelten: made it unlocalized
03:33.09Kaeltenwhat changed?
03:33.23ckknight"Playername of Realm Name" -> "Playername - Realm Name"
03:33.24Kaeltenhrm?
03:33.27ckknightonly on the backend, though.
03:33.32ckknightthe frontend shows the "of" bit
03:33.52Kaeltenso thats why my code doesn't work anymore.
03:33.56ckknightit makes it so funny-smelling europeans can switch locales easily.
03:34.04ckknightKaelten: which code is this?
03:34.19Kaeltensome code in OneStorage
03:34.20break19ckknight: I see you found your sense of humor. congrats :) :)
03:34.22ckknightI grepped trunk for GetProfile and nothing showed up...
03:34.22Kaeltenlet me see
03:34.33Kaeltenlocal _, _, name, server = string.find(k2, L["Player of Realm"])
03:34.33Kaelten<PROTECTED>
03:34.51ckknightbreak19: no, I just like making fun of Europeans.
03:34.53CIA-1703antiarc * r23674 10Sanity2/Sanity.lua: Sanity2: Added hook for trade skill items.
03:34.58ckknightbreak19: mostly, I was sick before
03:35.03ckknightI'm basically better now
03:35.17break19good to hear..
03:35.36Thraebreak19: By the way -- End of #wowi-lounge made Yatlas.
03:37.10Kaeltenckknight: so instead of doing for (.+) of (.+) I need to scan for (.+) - (.+)?
03:37.23ckknight(.+) %- (.+)
03:37.30ckknightand it'll actually work for foreigners.
03:37.31Kaelten%?
03:37.38ckknight- needs to be escaped.
03:37.47ckknightlern2luapattern
03:37.47Kaeltenah
03:37.52Kaeltenbah
03:37.56KaeltenI got too much to learn
03:37.57Kaelten:(
03:37.58Kaeltenlol
03:38.19pastamancerckknight: how's the ant problem?
03:38.32aemuthis there a way to change default raid class colors in a theme in ag_UnitFrames?
03:38.39ckknightpastamancer: solved it by lots of squishing and poisoned food.
03:38.51Kaeltenckknight: s that should work regardless of the locale right?
03:38.53pastamancerckknight: glad to hear it ended well
03:38.57ckknightKaelten: yep.
03:39.19break19ckknight: real quick question re: cartographer - is there anything you can think of, that I could try, regarding looking at zones I am not in? I can only view it for a second or two before it reverts.. and my framerate plummets thru the floor...
03:39.43ckknightodd.
03:39.46ckknightnot sure about that
03:40.14break19i am quite sure its one of my addons with the switching-back problem.. but the framerate issue has me scratching my head...
03:40.16Ominousnooo just lost my bartender settings
03:40.56break19and since I'm 1.5bars from 58 I dont feel like disabling addons til it goes away :p
03:41.47CIA-1703kaelten * r23675 10OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: OneStorage - Fixed issues relating to AceDB changes (I hope).
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03:42.56CrisCrOssfirst gen
03:43.01Ominouswhat has happned with Gmail?
03:43.14CrisCrOsswrks fine for m
03:43.36Fisker-it was removed Ominous
03:43.43Ominoushow come?
03:43.51CrisCrOss:P
03:43.53Fisker-because it was a copy of ct_mailmod
03:44.04CrisCrOssoh gmail the addon :P
03:44.20CIA-1703beerke * r23676 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.lua Locales/KingOfTheJungle-enUS.lua):
03:44.20CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
03:44.20CIA-17- Pet went emo
03:44.20CIA-17- Added tooltip to feed pet button
03:44.31CIA-1703gamefaq * r23677 10sRaidFrames/localization.deDE.lua: sRaidFrames: Updated deDE Translation
03:47.07break19beerke: hey, question for you.. are you familiar with the feed-o-matic addon? and what is the difference between yours and his? :)
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03:47.23Ordogfinnally logon servers are up again ...
03:47.46aemuthanyone know something bout raid class colors in ag_unitframes?
03:48.32Ominous"Fixed issues relating to AceDB changes" where are the AceDB changes documented?
03:49.35ckknightOminous: "Playername of Realm Name" (localized) was changed to "Playername - Realm Name"
03:49.55Ominousah k, so dosent affect me :)
03:49.58ckknightshould not affect users of AceDB-2.0 except in weird cases.
03:50.26beerketekkub, can you add Darkshore Grouper to PT2 ? itemid 1558
03:50.31CIA-1703kaelten * r23678 10OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: OneStorage - Another attempt at fixing.
03:50.41vid`http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cas/256319582.html
03:50.50beerkebreak19, lemme check what feed-o-matic can do first :)
03:51.03break19beerke: fizzwidget.com :p
03:52.19OminousIs ElkBuffBarS usable yet?
03:52.41break19basically.. I can click the happiness icon on my pet, and it'll feed the pet, selecting the best food, and has options to save bagspace, thereby taking from smaller stacks first if it can.. also makes a pet "noise" when the happiness drops below a certain level, and puts "Tokori is hungry" or "Tokori is very hungry" in text on screen ala SCT
03:52.54beerkewell
03:53.04CIA-1703benumbed * r23679 10MusicStream/ (34 files in 4 dirs):
03:53.04CIA-17MusicStream:
03:53.04CIA-17- Alot of Cleanup
03:53.04CIA-17- Added Standalone Player Frame
03:53.08Fisker-What 2x HWL armor would you use with Deathdealer in the head slot and the rest is bloodfang(besides boots which is shadowflame)
03:53.18beerkeMy mod pops up a button when you have pet food and pet is hungry
03:53.21break19Ominous: what's the difference between elkbuffbars and elkbuffbar
03:53.29beerkeit will give a warning if pet is hungry and you lack food
03:53.33Fisker-i'm thinking leggings and shoulders
03:53.38Ominouss is his new version
03:53.40Fisker-but gonna be pretty expensive in ZG enchants
03:53.40Fisker-:(
03:53.46beerkeYou can sort food list to your liking and check/uncheck items as you wish
03:54.01beerkeit can be localized for the foreigners :)
03:54.16beerkeand it makes use of PeriodicTable-2.0 for it's food
03:54.38beerkeand will get some more features along the road
03:54.48break19I kinda like being able to just the sad/content/happy icon, no extra buttons. :)
03:55.02break19s/just the/just click the
03:55.12beerkehttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/KingOfTheJungle
03:55.24beerkebutton only shows up when pet is hungry and you have food :P
03:55.39break19i can also bind a key to the feeding, can yours do that as well?
03:55.48beerkeNo need for that
03:55.59beerkeBut you can if i add it
03:57.05beerkeIt is working pretty good, but still needs some minor features :)
03:57.31KarlThePaganckknight, passing groups with toggle and execute working nicely thanks
03:57.39KarlThePaganin ace options table
03:57.54break19I'll keep an eye on it then, but for now I think I'll stick with FoM.. works good for me :)
03:59.18Andunebreak19:  I use the same, I like it too.
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04:07.19CIA-1703benumbed * r23680 10MusicStream/ (16 files in 3 dirs): MusicStream:Oops, Added Tooltips back
04:11.01CIA-1703kodewulf * r23681 10Cartographer_Vendors/Cartographer_Vendors.toc:
04:11.01CIA-17Cartographer_Vendors
04:11.01CIA-17* Updated TOC
04:11.01CIA-17<PROTECTED>
04:13.19ckknightKarlThePagan: :-)
04:13.46KarlThePagansaved a few kb
04:13.57CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23682 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua PratFu.lua modules/ChatFrames.lua): Prat: Optional ChatFrame restoration on load, enhancements to internal debugging
04:15.39aemuthso no one here who can tell me a bit bout raid colors?
04:15.52CIA-1703kodewulf * r23683 10Cartographer_Trainers/Cartographer_Trainers.toc:
04:15.52CIA-17Cartographer_Trainers
04:15.52CIA-17* Updated TOC
04:15.52CIA-17<PROTECTED>
04:21.10grennonbleh, my night of modding was ruined by a pretty girl asking me to help her guild kill the twin emps
04:21.17grennondamn titties
04:25.04Fisker-:O
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04:29.40grennonactually, i got the template for Postal_Select done at work today
04:29.55grennonbut i still have to debug/test postallib/openall/forward
04:32.11CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23684 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/Unused/Clear.lua): Prat: add eventinfo in the debugdata and the clear module in the unused folder
04:34.36Benumbedis it possible to hide mod title at top of aceoptionstable from fubar?
04:34.46andypcan anyone answer a OneStorage question? On line 182:  table.insert(list[serverId], string.format("%s - %s", name, k2) )  .. this results in a string: charname - charname - realm .. is that the intent?
04:34.54Andunesylvanaar: what's the SVN path for testing prat 2.0?
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04:36.48pastamancercan anyone using Grid r23643 confirm that the layout is being reloaded properly when entering a BG?
04:38.27KarlThePagani'll check it out pasta
04:47.14KarlThePaganpastamancer, entered & left 5v5 arena - left when out of combat
04:47.19KarlThePaganseemed ok
04:53.01break19hey.. I'm using the standalone libraries.. is there anything I should do to ensure they get used instead of the internal libs, other than going into each addon folder and remove /libs/ folder?
04:55.38Benumbedif your asking which gets used, the newest gets used and oldest gets "trashed"
04:56.01nymbiabreak19: if there's a standalone version, it should always load before any embedded versions.
04:56.11CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23685 10Prat/Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: changed toc to version 2.0
04:56.23break19nymbia kk
04:56.49break19nymbia: but see.. that "should" part makes me wanna do something to change it to a "will" :)
04:57.09Benumbedis it possible to hide mod title at top of aceoptionstable from fubar? or where is it coming from =x
04:57.17nymbiabreak19: unless a given addon has mistakes in the .toc, the standalone will load first.
04:57.26Mikmahttp://mikma.pastey.net/4606
04:57.31break19nymbia, tnx :)
04:58.17pastamancerKarlThePagan: can you try AV?
04:58.54KarlThePaganyea i'm pretty far from a city but i'll try to finish a round
05:06.28sylvanaarAndune: its um
05:06.53sylvanaarhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Prat
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05:08.19sylvanaarBenumbed: it was at one pont, but not sure now
05:08.38CIA-1703benumbed * r23686 10MusicStream/MusicStream.lua: MusicStream:Typo
05:09.14Benumbedsylvanaar yea cant find out where its coming from, except title in toc?
05:09.29Benumbedand want to not show it, and do custom one
05:10.31sylvanaarBenumbed: you either can or its a bug - last time i checked i wasnt sure
05:10.35CIA-1703quetz * r23687 10FelwoodFarmer/FelwoodFarmer.toc: FelwoodFarmer: - TOC update
05:11.11sylvanaarBenumbed: cant you just change the title?
05:11.32sylvanaarBenumbed: ie the .name field
05:11.34Yinchiebleh some addon is leaking memory.. keeps increasing mem usage with 35 KiB/s rate... bleh gonna debugg tommorrow when i wake up :/
05:11.43Benumbedfrom where fu?
05:11.51Benumbedits not pulling it from there
05:12.38BenumbedI set MusicStreamFu.title and .name to "pos"
05:12.43Benumbedand it still says Music Stream
05:13.21AntiarcHm. A nice mod would be one that tracks the number of times you kill or are killed by an enemy player, then tallies all the enemies on the scoreboard at the start of a match to give you a Toughness Rating(TM).
05:13.38KarlThePaganpastamancer, 30 minute queue - find a horde helper imo :(
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05:14.50KarlThePaganAntiarc, there's an ace2'd pvplog if i remember correctly
05:14.55KarlThePaganI forget it's name
05:17.40sylvanaarBenumbed: your module.name and module.title
05:19.04Benumbedyeah, I changed those...it doesnt change the title at top of menu
05:19.47sylvanaarworks for me, idk
05:19.55CodayusHmm, Quixote is throwing errors...
05:20.02sylvanaarthey come from the toc yes
05:20.03Benumbedhmm dunno what I did then
05:20.11Benumbedyeah, so how do I stop it
05:20.18sylvanaardont know
05:20.22CodayusLike, LOTS of errors. Hm
05:20.22Benumbedqq
05:20.35HjalteWhat is the name of the script that tells you what frame you mouseover?
05:20.52ZealotOnAStickDueceLog, for the Ace2 PvPLog
05:21.01GagorianIs there a smart way to detect if a function exists without running it? As in what would if type( foo() ) == "function" do?
05:21.38pastamancerKarlThePagan: boo alliance
05:22.10pastamancerGagorian: if type(foo) == "function"
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05:26.14Gagorianpastamancer: function arguments expected near...
05:26.59pastamanceroh, then you need if foo and type(foo) == "function"
05:27.30CodayusHjalte: /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName())
05:28.09HjalteThanks Codayus
05:28.39haste/print GetMouseFocus():GetName() is defined by AceConsole (I believe), not that I see any reason for it to be there...
05:29.38HjalteWasn't there an addon sometime that would replace the default colourpicker with one where you could enter numbers too?
05:29.39Gagorianpastamancer: function arguments expected near and ;)
05:29.45ThorgardBenumbed, what're you trying to do? :o
05:30.08pastamancerGagorian: pastey
05:30.11Benumbedhide the damned title at top of menu of fubar
05:30.25ThorgardHjalte, http://www.wowace.com/files/EnhancedColourPicker/EnhancedColourPicker-r19628.zip
05:30.28Benumbedso I can do my own header with an icon
05:31.08HjalteThank you Thorgard
05:31.11ThorgardThe one at the top when you right-click the icon/text?
05:31.18Benumbedyea
05:31.20ThorgardHjalte, nemas pantalones.
05:31.26Gagorianpastamancer: http://ace.pastey.net/4608
05:31.44pastamancer: -> .
05:31.58Gagorianbasically it's a function that returns two tables, but I'd want the user option to delete the file containing it
05:32.09GagorianIf support for that class isn't needed
05:32.17Gagorianalright
05:32.32pastamancerfoo:bar is always a function call foo.bar is a table access whose value may or may not be a function
05:32.42haste>:3
05:33.17Gagorianah, yeah. Thanks
05:33.59Benumbedsearched and cant find anything on how to hide it or change it other than changing toc
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05:35.44KarlThePaganpastamancer, grid is negative on entering av (out of combat) - zero-size square single column layout
05:35.59KarlThePaganwas set to raid 40
05:36.06KarlThePagantoggling fixed it
05:36.13KarlThePagangoing to pick a fight and /afk now
05:37.35CIA-1703grennon 07Postal_Express * r23688 10Postal/Postal_Express.lua: Postal: Alt-Click to attach item to SendMail frame actually works now.
05:37.43KarlThePaganpastamancer, grid successfully reset the layout on BG exit
05:38.03pastamancerKarlThePagan: yay
05:38.05KarlThePagancorrection
05:38.07KarlThePagan:(
05:38.12pastamancerboo
05:38.13KarlThePaganthe layout menu is still locked
05:38.22CIA-1703zealotonastick * r23689 10FuBar_LogFu2/ (FuBar_LogFu2.toc LogFu2.lua):
05:38.22CIA-17FuBar_LogFu2:
05:38.22CIA-17<PROTECTED>
05:38.22pastamanceroh, ok
05:38.24KarlThePaganbut the layout is correct for me being solo
05:38.27pastamancerI can fix that
05:39.07KarlThePaganand i got to /afk on a t2.5 warrior lol
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05:40.53CIA-17FuBar_LogFu2:
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05:41.18CIA-1703grennon 07Postal_Forward * r23691 10Postal/Postal_Forward.lua: Postal: Update Baglib Call, First Forward Item Test works
05:43.01grennonim as shocked as you are
05:43.19grennoni thought for sure it would delete every item in my bags
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05:46.28Yinchieis there is a ace addon for combat display healthbars for yourself and target that only pops up during combat? kinda like the Perl classic combatdisplay?
05:46.49ThorgardOr the oldschool 'statusbars'?
05:47.33Yinchiehttp://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/1148552806cthunperl.jpg thhat thing in somewhat the middle of the screen
05:47.47Goebok, anyone seen this?  Everytime I put a weapon buff on (or take one off/wears off) I get a full second lag, and my increasing rate jumps by 100K/s
05:48.05Goebif I do it 8-10 times in a row I can get my increasing rate up over 1MB/s :)
05:48.31Goeball the shaman weapon buffs, sharpening stones, WF totem etc.
05:48.32Industrialits a miracle
05:48.49Industrialtry opening and closing all bags 10 times
05:49.08hastelol
05:49.39Goebdoesn't do nuttin :)
05:49.46hasteI remember I found something I could do to increase my memory rate like that
05:49.52hasteafter some hammering my WoW crashed :(
05:50.08Goebanyhow, wf totem refreshes windfury every 9 seconds
05:50.16Goebso I get a 1 second pause every 9 seconds
05:50.29vid`mcpfu does that for me
05:50.40vid`in BG's, if i open the list and scroll through it
05:50.46vid`i get over 3MB/s
05:50.47GoebI've been disabling mods all night
05:51.06vid`and the it drops to 0.3KB/s after :P
05:51.16vid`when i close the mcpfu menu
05:51.24vid`but it only does it in BG's on my pc
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05:55.14GagorianRoughly how much UI memory will the user save if he deletes a file containing a function that contains a large local table?
05:55.30vinaurdepends on how large the table is
05:55.42vinaurbut it's local, so not much
05:55.56Industrial|-----------o---| thismuch
05:56.04GagorianIndustrial ;)
06:04.55grennonFisker-: alright, i figured out how to fix the "oh noes, my read messages get un-greyed" bug
06:05.18grennonFisker-: i need to spend more time on little issues like those before i move onto GMail_Bulk, thanks for testing it man
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06:07.18CIA-1703grennon 07Postal_OpenAll * r23692 10Postal/Postal_OpenAll.lua: Postal: add InboxFrame_Update call set read mails right after OpenAll
06:08.25vinaurhey, a quick question. so the idea behind ace is that you reuse same functions in multiple addons, but you still include all required libraries with each addon right?
06:09.06vinaurbut ace checks whether the libraries have been loaded, so you stil only have 1 instance of these functions, correct?
06:09.26Hjaltevinaur: as i've understood it, only one copy of each library will be loaded in the memory after the first carbage collection
06:10.18vinaurok, so my main question is, do i still include all the necessary libs in each of my addon folders?
06:10.43vinauras in for each addon
06:10.44Hjaltevinaur: yes, thats called embedded libraries :)
06:11.01Hjaltethey will only be loaded once, dont worry about that
06:11.06vinaurkk, was shady on the definition for "embedded libraries". thanks
06:11.50vinauri'm just trying to figure out all the knicks and knacks behind ace... just started today
06:14.52Hjaltevinaur: there should be quite a handful of guides on wowace.com :)
06:16.12vinauryup, read some. gonna try and convert a simple addon to ace now
06:17.45AntiarcOk, I now have 102 WSG marks.
06:17.48AntiarcWhat should I spend them on?
06:17.54AntiarcI'm thinking a third mount.
06:19.11AnduneI'm guessing you play horde?  :)
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06:19.35Barbanusvinaur, the downfall of embeded libs is that on the first load (when you first login), they load for each mod, so if you have 12 ace mods with emb libs, they are loaded 12 times, but then tossed on the first GC
06:20.08BarbanusSo the first login is slower, but its all sorted out on GC
06:20.54CIA-1703pastamancer * r23693 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLayout.lua): Grid: use InCombatLockdown for disabling menus
06:20.56CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r23694 10DKPmon/ (7 files in 6 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 -- Various bugfixes.
06:21.20AntiarcAlliance, shockingly.
06:21.30vinauri see. thanks for the info
06:21.35AnduneBarbanus:  define "first load", please?
06:22.08BarbanusAndune, well, logging into the game ... or a reloadui .. not like zoning or anything.
06:22.24Anduneah.  so everytime you login from the character screen.
06:22.29Gamefaqcknight: your last fix to cartographer did it...
06:22.30BarbanusRight.
06:22.32Andune"first load" is a deceiving term then.
06:22.44Andunemakes it sound like a one-time hit - it's actually a hit everytime you log in.
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06:22.59vinaurfirst session load
06:23.16AnduneI have a script that cleans out all the embedded Ace2* dependencies, and I just have the library loaded separately.  Glad to hear that wasn't a waste of time  :)
06:23.41BarbanusAndune, yea, if you care about your login time .. then that is definately the way to go :)
06:23.47Andunenot that it took me more than 2 mins to write, but I run it everytime I update, so hate to be doing the ritual for no reason  ;)
06:24.38CIA-1703arkayenro * r23695 10ArkInventory/Locale/deDE.lua:
06:24.38CIA-17ArkInventory:
06:24.38CIA-17- fixes to DE translations
06:24.58Anduneyeah my raw (no mods) login time is 10-15 seconds or so.  with all my mods, I'm pushin close to 60 seconds these days.  I care  :)
06:25.20BarbanusYea, mine is about that with embedded libs
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06:25.46BarbanusI've never actually benched it .. so I dont know what the difference is .. someone might though.
06:25.47Anduneah, mine's that without.  Haven't tested with full embedded libs since I've been stripping 'em out long before I accumulated so many mods  ;)
06:26.43vinauroh, adune, you basically change the links to libs in the toc files to point to a separate Ace lib collection?
06:26.45Baraius_Question:  Do any of you guys use an embedded lua editor like LuaSlinger?  If so, which one?
06:27.03Barbanusvinaur, no need.
06:27.14BarbanusJust remove them from the libs dir
06:27.24BarbanusIf it doesnt find it .. it just dies
06:27.26ZealotOnAStickGrennon, my availability this weekend is spotty, but I probably have a few inactive-enough alts that I can help with a few things if you need.
06:27.27KarlThePaganBaraius_, I use SciTE (there's a version on wowinterface.com)
06:27.30Barbanuserr .. doesnt load them
06:27.40KarlThePaganbut that's not embedded I guess ;)
06:27.59Barbanusso as long as you are loading the libs as individual mods, they will be loaded, so its all good.
06:28.34Barbanuswtf, all of my settings went ape shit .. yay
06:29.01Baraius_Cool.  I have that downloaded as well (I use it for other things).  I'm just trying to teach myself the WoW environment (the lua seems straightforward enough, just read the PiL book).  I was wondering if being able to play around with WoW up would help accelerate the learning curve.
06:29.10vinaurwait, so what does andune mean by stripping the mods of the embeded libs? just removing the libs from the addon folders? and then have ace load on its own?
06:31.35Andunefind . \! -wholename '*\!StopTheSpam*' -wholename '*/libs/Ace*.lua' -print -exec rm {} \;
06:31.48haste<3 find
06:31.52AnduneJust removing all Ace* libs.
06:32.31AnduneI could remove even more, but then I'd have a whole mess of libs in my root addons dir, and some are only needed by some mods that I don't load all the time, etc.
06:32.44AnduneSo I just cleanup all the Ace2* libs, which are the most oft repeated ones.
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06:34.11GagorianI have 0 embedded libs (just deleted all libs folders with search). Then just copied what standalone libs I need to \Addons\ folder.
06:34.12Goebdid something change with niceDate?
06:35.04ZealotOnAStickOn my slower machine, I use standalone libs and don't run embeds.
06:35.08BarbanusDoes anyone know why all of my ace mods would of just lost all of their settings on every character?
06:35.14AnduneGagorian: yeah, I went away from that b/c it just blows up the root addons folder.  Plus i don't run all my mods all the time (like raid/pvp/healing), so it becomes a nightmare to keep track of which mods depend on which libs
06:35.24xlviiIf I have !BugGrabber and BugSack, do I still need !Swatter?
06:35.30ZealotOnAStickOn my main machine, my addon loadup time is like 3.6 seconds anyway, with embeds, so I don't care.
06:35.34Andunemeaning I take the hit for loading libs I don't use in certain configurations (like when I'm not using my Raiding mods)
06:35.40ZealotOnAStickxlvii: no.
06:35.49xlviiZealotOnAStick, thank you.
06:36.06AnduneZealotOnAStick: holy crap.  how many addons are you running with a loadup time like that??  3?
06:36.25BarbanusOh BLAH "- character ids are now stored in the database as "Playername - Realm Name" instead of "Playername of Realm Name" (localized). This allows for people who switch between locales to do so at ease."
06:36.33BarbanusTime to reset all of my settings looks like
06:36.34ZealotOnAStickIt's a pretty nice machine.
06:36.36xlviiZealotOnAStick, what do you use to measure that?
06:36.42ZealotOnAStickand, I dunno, lemme go count (Warmup)
06:36.57Andunelol.  I thought I had a pretty nice machine.  Guess I was mistaken  :)
06:37.24ZealotOnAStickok, /interface/addons has 147 objects.
06:37.26xlviiDoes anyone have a 2.0.1 compatible Warmup?
06:37.33AnduneI'm at 118 addons with a 38 sec loadup, 8.9 sec GC.
06:37.48xlviiWhat do you use to measure it? ;O
06:37.51ZealotOnAStick13 of those are the blizzard (it's on /files xlvii) ones.
06:38.02Andunexlvii:  Warmup
06:38.02xlviiZealotOnAStick, thanks.
06:38.27ZealotOnAStickOf the 130ish others, I don't run them all on every character.
06:38.28xlviiNo it's not ;D
06:38.36ZealotOnAStickIt's no?
06:38.40ZealotOnAStickLook at the top?
06:38.41Andunexlvii:  !Warmup
06:38.48xlviiIT's not ;D
06:38.50xlvii:P
06:39.02xlviihttp://www.wowace.com/files/
06:39.04ZealotOnASticks/no/not/
06:39.17xlviiNot in /trunk/ either.
06:39.25ZealotOnAStickHrm.
06:39.34ZealotOnAStickWell, damn.
06:39.43ZealotOnAStickA moment, lemme see if I can find Tekkub's site then.
06:39.47xlviiZealotOnAStick, hook a /b/rotha up?
06:40.01AnduneZealotOnAStick:  we'l im 233 addons, but only 118 on this toon.  Still, for you to be at 147 and get a 3 sec loadup is awesome.  I'm envious.
06:40.15ZealotOnAStickcode.google.com/p/tekkub-wow
06:40.43ZealotOnAStickHold on, I'm derailed a minute . . . each folder isn't necessarily indicative of an actual addon, per se.
06:40.57xlviiIt's not there either >_>
06:41.02xlvii-.0
06:41.09ZealotOnAStickHmm.  WEll, hell.  Can you accept dcc?
06:41.17xlviigive me a second
06:41.43Anduneyeah strange that Warmup is gone.  Was there last time I looked.  odd..
06:41.54ZealotOnAStick13 folders for Bigwigs . . . at least 7 of which are LoD zone modules.
06:41.58xlviiTry now.
06:42.02AnduneZealotOnAStick: what processor/RAM, btw?
06:43.03ZealotOnAStickAthlon XP 64 X2 4400 with 2 GB DDR2 ram, and one of the sweeter points, 2 10K RPM 12MB Cache (each) 150GB WD SATA Gaming HDs in Raid-0
06:43.17Andunenice rig
06:43.32ZealotOnAStickDual 7800 GTXs in SLI.
06:43.41ZealotOnAStickand sundry other bits.
06:43.50Andunethose 10k rpm drives are hot stuff.  got a pair on my workstation@work.  couldn't quite justify the cost for home use tho  :P
06:44.02Andunelol wow.  How's the SLI workout?
06:44.20ZealotOnAStickxlvii - trying to send now.
06:44.22Andunegot an SLI board, figured I'd could by the twin to my card later if it couldn't keep up.  But I'm happy with the card I have
06:44.29ZealotOnAStickEnh.  Some stuff I notice it on, some stuff I'm not sure.
06:44.31xlviiZealotOnAStick, cheers.
06:44.36AntiarcIs there a mod that, on the PVP scoreboard, shows the match's participants by class?
06:44.47Antiarc3 horde shaman, 2 rogues, 4 warriors, 934 warlocks, etc.
06:45.01BarbanusFuck, that BG would suck
06:45.01ZealotOnASticktried ScoreSort?  Or does it just do by damage, healing, etc?
06:45.03xlviiAntiarc, lol..
06:45.09BarbanusOnly thing worse is 82392 hunters
06:45.21AntiarcI have used ScoreSort
06:45.26ZealotOnAStickit's still trying to send, xlvii, do you have passive on?
06:45.26BarbanusZealotOnAStick, it sorts by the headers, yea
06:45.26vinaurany reason why there are 3 versions of AceLocale in the Ace package?
06:45.29AntiarcI want an XRS-type display.
06:45.42Antiarc934 warlocks would beat 82392 hunters
06:45.55xlviiZealotOnAStick, no.. should it be on?
06:46.00Andunelol.  by all counts I've ever done, Warlocks are one of the least populated classes.  Albiet the most hated, and perhaps drawn to PvP like flies..
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06:46.42ZealotOnAStickTry turning it on, it might let it work.
06:47.20xlviiany devs around who have !warmup that could possible recommit it>?
06:47.28ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: Ohhh.  I wouldn't rule the existence of such out, but I don't remember seeing such, and I watch most of the addon sites more or less daily.  Not a bad idea.
06:47.29vinauranyone know? i guess my question got lost..
06:47.31ZealotOnAStickSort of a BG summary.
06:47.49ZealotOnAStickIf it was removed from the SVN it was done for a reason, most likely by request.
06:48.00ZealotOnAStickyou enabled passive yet?
06:48.14xlviiZealotOnAStick, yes.
06:48.24xlviiZealotOnAStick, thanks for trying.. I found it on wowinterface.com
06:48.25xlvii;D
06:48.28Andunelast I saw on the wiki (re: warmup) the author considered it "past it's useful life" or somesuch and therefore discontinued
06:48.55Hjaltevinaur: different versions maybe?
06:49.34ZealotOnASticksee if the version you found is any newer than this one?
06:49.34vinaurthey are....2.0 2.1 2.2
06:49.36Hjaltevinaur: exactly. generally, i'd say use the newest
06:50.25xlvii2.0.030.repack.
06:53.30ZealotOnAStickI've most noticed the SLI being handy in NWN2.  To be sure what it did in WoW, I'd have to disable SLI and raid for a couple of nights and see . . . and I'd just rather not bother.
06:54.31Andunelol, yeah
06:55.05Andunefrom my observations, when wow lags and/or has heavily reduced fps, it's usually b/c it's processor-bound
06:55.55Andunebut I dunno, do you get full 60 fps w/ all graphics options cranked in 40-man boss fights w/ SLI?
06:56.20Andune'cuz I sure don't  :)
06:57.28DrZootwatching fps is a pain, I know that my 7600gt doesnt sit at 60fps in all situations but it never freezes or visualy lags with all settings on max
06:57.40ZealotOnAStickNo . . . and I'm still down some framerate overall in instances compared to before the patch.
06:58.11Andunedrzoot:  yep, me neither.  I dip to just barely sub-30fps in heavy situations, but it's always acceptable and responsive.
06:58.14ZealotOnAStickI'm at maybe 80% of what I got in Naxx prior to 2.0.1.  Fixing (adding) the cache/WDB/enUS helped a bit.
06:59.03DrZootIve always found that WoW responds better to more ram than throwing masses of gpu power at it
06:59.09ZealotOnAStickI've dropped to as low as about 14 FPS on like Thaddius or Loatheb, average around 45ish in Naxx most of the time, and have hit over 120 in open-world.
06:59.22DrZootmy baseline for a decent WoW system is now 2gb of ram
06:59.27ZealotOnAStickBut I run at 1600x1200 with things reasonably cranked.
06:59.28Andunereally 120?  mines always capped at 60.
06:59.34ZealotOnAStick60, or 64?
06:59.44Andune60, exactly.  never seen a hair over.
07:00.00ZealotOnAStickHmm.  I bet you have vsync enabled.
07:00.07ZealotOnASticklcd, I hope?
07:00.08DrZootIve got vsync on so I never go over 60
07:00.10Andunelcd, yes
07:00.24ZealotOnAStickok, I'd pity you if you were running at 60 Hz on a CRT
07:00.25Andunewhich suddenly makes amazing sense, lol  :)
07:00.33Anduneyeah no kidding  :)
07:00.55DrZoot60hz on a CRT is like stabbing yourself in the eyes with chopsticks
07:01.20Andunewhich I might actually prefer over the 60hz CRT, actually..
07:01.29ZealotOnAStickI can only get 72 at 1600x1200, and I've got to take breaks every couple of hours for my eyes.  I prefer 85, but the monitor just won't go that high at that res.
07:01.36KarlThePaganhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/karlp/wow/grouperpreferences.jpg
07:02.23AnduneI had a nice 21" CRT that would push 85, prior to my LCD.  sacrificed a bit there, but I much prefer the clarity and size (desk space) of the LCD  :)
07:03.52ZealotOnAStickI have 2 19" professional series Samsung CRT.
07:03.57ZealotOnAStickI'll never buy a frigging CRT again.
07:04.09HjalteKarlThePagan: Do you think something like this mod, would be something you could incorporate in GrouperLFG? http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3668
07:04.16ZealotOnAStickWhen I have money to play with again, I want to get a (or a couple) 19 or 20" widescreen LCDs
07:04.17Andune!-2s/CRT/lcd/  ?
07:04.37CIA-1703pastamancer * r23696 10Grid/ (GridCore.lua GridLayout.lua):
07:04.37CIA-17Grid:
07:04.37CIA-17- handle BG -> solo in addition to BG -> BG
07:04.37CIA-17- informed GridLayout about the existence of battlegrounds
07:04.59Anduneohh.  I get ya now  :)
07:05.20AnduneI actually prefer the non-widescreen LCDs.  More pixels for the (relatively) same size monitor.
07:06.29KarlThePaganHjalte, perhaps a module
07:10.22pastamancerKarlThePagan: ^^ there, that fixes it
07:10.46KarlThePagancool
07:12.31CIA-1703bima * r23697 10Postman/ (5 files): Postman: localization moved to separate file; delivery tracking added; right click to collect items/money from mail; autosend option for alt-leftclick
07:13.39pastamancerforgot that gridlayout didn't know about BGs
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07:22.16ckknightwell, The Good Shepherd was good, imho
07:24.06pastamancerwere there sheep?
07:25.11ckknightno, it's about WASPs, not sheep.
07:25.14KemayoWow, they really have increased low-level rep gains.  My new night elf just hit Honored with Darnasus at level 8.
07:25.39Benumbedckknight, is there a way to hide the title at the top of the menu (the one that fubar creates)
07:25.46ckknightyes
07:25.54ckknightafaik
07:26.06Benumbedit pulls it from the toc right? only place I could find where it was coming from
07:26.26ckknightinadvertently, yes
07:26.35Benumbeddunno of a way to hide it =x
07:26.43ckknightwhy would you?
07:26.53Benumbedwanting to make my own header which I did (with an icon, etc)
07:27.05Benumbedso it sits under the main title i want hidden
07:27.08ckknightwell, there's a way to hide it
07:27.12ckknightlook it up on the wiki
07:27.17ckknightI didn't write that part
07:27.30Benumbedsearched for hours, couldnt find it or maybe was searching wrong thing
07:27.52ckknightwell, I dunno, I'm frankly the wrong person to ask
07:27.58IndustrialKemayo: thats normal if you do all quests..
07:28.10Benumbed=\
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07:28.24CIA-1703pastamancer * r23698 10Grid/GridCore.lua: Grid: check inCombat on P_E_W
07:28.35Industrialo_O
07:29.45pastamancersylvanaar: world defense messages look wierd with the name replace part
07:34.08Tempastamancer, the combat lockdown doesn't start until after PEW
07:34.15Temso checking for combat is pointless
07:34.31pastamancerI need to reset it if I'm zoning out while in combat
07:34.48Temoh, well that's an entirely different situation :)
07:34.53Temcarry on =P
07:35.58KemayoIndustrial:  I seem to remember it taking longer than that when doing all quests as a human.
07:39.23hasteKemayo: it's normal now, not pre-2.0
07:39.43CIA-1703sylvanaar * r23699 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/FuBar_DebuggerFu.lua: FuBar_DebuggerFu: The power of sylvanaar compells you!
07:40.26sylvanaarpastamancer: yeah i have seen that before
07:40.36sylvanaarpastamancer: it may be a regression
07:40.46sylvanaarpastamancer: can you copychat/pastey?
07:41.41pastamancersylvanaar: already logged out :(, but it was [4. WorldDefense] []: Foo is being attacked!
07:41.52pastamancersylvanaar: I have channel name mangling turned off for chat channels
07:42.02pastamancerand I use [] brackets around player names
07:42.33sylvanaarpastamancer: ok, thanks
07:42.59sylvanaarpastamancer: i know i fixed that one time already
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07:43.53Bardukus_EUhello
07:44.00Bardukus_EUcan someone help me ?
07:44.01pastamancersylvanaar: I'll log back in.  Just did a svn update
07:44.27sylvanaarpastamancer: i think i fixed it on the branch we reverted back from lemee see
07:44.29Bardukus_EUhow can i download Ace2
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07:46.15Bardukus_EUCAN SOMEONE HELP ME???
07:46.32ZealotOnAStickCan you find your capslock key?
07:46.48ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.wowace.com/files
07:47.40Bardukus_EUyes well i used caps because non answered
07:47.43Bardukus_EUty alot m8
07:48.52sylvanaarits fixed in the 1.0 code
07:49.20ZealotOnAStickA lot of people in here are often programming, or in game, they may not be paying attention to IRC every minutes.
07:50.32Bardukus_EUaah
07:50.34Bardukus_EUwell
07:50.36BarbanusHeh, DnT 5 manned LoLtheb
07:50.37Bardukus_EUsry -.-
07:50.59Eejhow come Skinner + TinyTip = two health bars under my tooltip
07:51.04Bardukus_EUcan u tell me were to download SurfaceLib? and DewdropLib?
07:51.15ZealotOnAStickYeah, trying to talk our guild leader into our doing it, but he's stubborn.
07:51.24ZealotOnAStickOf course we'd have to have 2 more priests respec shadow.
07:51.36Bardukus_EUoooh
07:51.41ZealotOnAStickSame place.
07:51.48Bardukus_EUwhat server are u guys playing on?
07:51.54BarbanusZealotOnAStick, well the video comes out .. and the next day ... we get a hotfix ... coincidence?
07:52.16ZealotOnAStickTook 'em like 3 days to get the video out.
07:52.25Anduneeej:  must be a setting of yours or maybe another mod?  I run both and have only one health bar.
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07:52.45ZealotOnAStickHave we seen any blue text on what the hotfix was for?
07:52.46CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23700 10Prat/Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: dont decorate empty names
07:53.03Bardukus_EUty alot Zealot
07:53.10BarbanusHmmm I heard about it 2 nights ago, and we are on the same server, I'm pretty sure it was right away I heard about it :P
07:53.26BarbanusZealotOnAStick, nope, they havent said
07:53.43BarbanusFrom my understanding LoLtheb should have a enrage timer tho
07:54.05ZealotOnAStickHe doesn't enrage, it just gets to Inevitable Dooms every 15 seconds.
07:54.20ZealotOnAStickWhich for most intents and purposes, suffices as well.
07:54.34pastamancersylvanaar: *hugs*
07:54.50sylvanaarpastamancer: *hugs* thanks for the headsup
07:54.57Barbanusexcept when you stack shadowpriests :P
07:55.09pastamancervampiric touch is imba
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07:56.04ZealotOnAStickIt's like stacking multiple rad defenders on CoH.
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07:57.39vinaurhow do you add something to clipboard? i remember it being possible, can you still do it?
07:58.00vinauror, maybe i don;t remember
07:58.31Bardukus_EUhmmms
07:58.43Bardukus_EUis someone using "BUENA UNIT FRAMES v1.0" here?
08:00.40hastenever heard off
08:01.50ZealotOnAStickThey're a custom layout for agUF, mimicking Nimbal's Unit Frames.
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08:04.42HjalteBardukus_EU: I was using them earlier today
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08:05.46vinaurwhen writing locales is it a good idea to have the key in the table be the whole phrase?
08:06.08vinaur'cause that
08:06.26vinaur'cause that's what the tutorial seems to suggest*
08:08.07ZealotOnAStickNeedn't necessarily be the whole phrase, but it should be meaningful.
08:08.54vinaurso just like a label....like any other variable you'd name
08:09.21vinaurk, thanks. thought it was like a common practice
08:09.22CIA-1703fenlis * r23702 10Hemlock/localization.lua: Hemlock : Added localization koKR
08:13.03Bardukus_EUwell
08:13.06Bardukus_EUi cant get it to work
08:13.23Bardukus_EUim following the "read me" but it still wont work
08:13.43AntiarcHow do you get the default class colors?
08:13.53AntiarcI'm sure there's a var somewhere but it escapes me.
08:14.02AntiarcNevermind :P
08:14.29vinaurfound it?
08:15.04AntiarcYup.
08:15.30Bardukus_EUhow u get the new Ace2 system to work?
08:15.58Industrialu press button then it goes whee.
08:16.15Bardukus_EU=P
08:16.16IndustrialxD just kidding
08:16.16Bardukus_EUk
08:16.20Bardukus_EUhehe
08:16.24Bardukus_EU;D
08:17.10Bardukus_EUwhen people are gonna make addons so andvanst that thay need to follow a guide its going to far, atlast that is my thought
08:17.27GagorianZealotOnAStick: You by any chance have DS? ;l
08:18.01kergothcartographer_scribe needs to have an aceoptions, and needs to inject it into cart's menu like the other cart modules, so its easy to disable.
08:18.24ZealotOnAStickBardukus_EU: Do you have agUnitFrames installed?  If not, download it from wowace.com/files, unzip it to your addons directory, and then follow the instructions in the Buena zip.
08:18.36ZealotOnAStickGagorian: you mean a Nintendo DS?
08:19.30Bardukus_EUwell yea
08:19.44Bardukus_EUill try again
08:20.10GagorianZealotOnAStick: Demonic Sacrifice more precisely
08:20.25ZealotOnAStickAhh.  No, not at present.  I'm SM/Ruin specced on live.
08:20.37ZealotOnAStickNow, if you wanted something tested with DS, I can do that on beta easily.
08:20.47CodayusThings that wipe raids:  Having your MT healers on a time-laps chrommie get the breaths the wrong way around.
08:21.06CodayusIt *was* fun to watch a half dozen people charge into the corrosive acid though.
08:21.14ZealotOnAStick<PROTECTED>
08:21.29CodayusYeah
08:21.37ZealotOnAStickIf he's positioned correctly the healers shouldn't be in breath LoS anyway and shouldn't have to move (much) for either MT or OT.
08:21.58CodayusThe way we do it, MT healers don't move at all except for time lapse.
08:22.08AntiarcThings that wipe raids: A paladin DI'ing the MT when Maexxna is at 6%.
08:22.34ZealotOnAStickI hope someone ripped him a new one via his codpiece?
08:22.44GagorianZealotOnAStick: I'm most inrested to know if the DS texture of sacced felguard and succubus is the same
08:22.52AntiarcHeheh. We teased him for a good 3 weeks.
08:22.57Gagorians/inrested/interested
08:22.59CodayusI think one druid got confused, jumped in, and everyone else went "oh, it must be time lapse already", and charged in after him.
08:23.00nymbiai like when the MT gets DI'd on vael.  it's extravagant.
08:23.05AntiarcWe now take a screenshot of our MT DI'd in front of the boss for every new boss kill.
08:23.05ZealotOnAStickThough I've read stuff about paladins DI'ing the MT intentionally for kicks.
08:23.12AntiarcThis was an accident.
08:23.20ZealotOnAStickHow quick do you need to know, Gagorian?
08:23.40CodayusI saw a raid wipe to an Onyxia warner when a pally DIed the MT.
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08:23.46CodayusOf course, that was a couple years ago.
08:23.48GagorianWell, I don't personally mind that much but someone might whine ;)
08:24.03GagorianIt seems that felguard sac and succubus sac buff names are the same
08:24.03CodayusWhen Onyxia was cuttign edge content.  :-)
08:24.08Adirell2err... I'm looking on Compost-2.0 code... and I have the curiuos feeling it does nothing :s
08:24.22Gagorian"Touch of Shadow", if the name is the same I need something to set them apart
08:24.27AntiarcAdirell2: It doesn't.
08:24.33ZealotOnAStickWell, I'm watching an ep of Torchwood, got about 33 minutes left.  I can check on beta after that.
08:24.38AntiarcWith 2.0, we got incremental garbage collection, so compost became useless.
08:24.46AntiarcBut Compost-2.0 is as it is for backwards compatibility.
08:24.59nymbiait's still useful if you make then dispose of a lot of tables.
08:25.00GagorianI've got a strong hunch that the textures are the same.. so I'll need some other trick
08:25.00Adirell2antiarc : it doesn't do something or it does something ? :p
08:25.33AntiarcIt doesn't really do anything anymore.
08:25.40AntiarcBefore it was table reuse and conservation
08:25.41Adirell1raah... should be connected from elsewhere, i can't reclaim my nick :s
08:25.44GagorianZealotOnAStick: Alright, I think I'll be sleeping by then but not sure. You can PM me anyway with the info, I'll read it when I wake up
08:25.53AntiarcBut that became useless as of 2.0
08:26.07GagorianZealotOnAStick: Mouse on buff button /print GetMouseFocus():GetRegions() would be perfect
08:26.12Eejhmm
08:26.14Adirell1antiarc : you could ask ckknight about this subject, we had a talking about this a few day ago
08:26.21GagorianZealotOnAStick: on both succy and felguard
08:26.23Eejstill playing around with tinytip + skinner and i can't figure it out
08:26.29Eejif i turn one or the other off it fixes itself
08:26.35Anduneanyone here familiar enough with agUF that they know how one would tell if someone else tagged a mob?  (ABF layout)
08:26.53AntiarcThe health bar turns grey.
08:26.55Adirell1antiarc : and well, ckknight thinks it still usefull
08:26.56ckknightJesus fucking Christ, Incremental GC is not a silver bullet and recycling of tables is still very much important.
08:26.59Anduneie. default unit frames gray the name out.  I don't see any indication for agUF
08:27.23Adirell1uhoh... waked up ckknight ;D
08:27.24Andunehmm I haven't noticed that.  I'll keep an eye out..
08:27.28Adirell1s/waked/woke/
08:27.55AntiarcRecycling tables, yes, but Compost's level of recycling pre.20 was actually a performance degredation in 2.0, wasn't it?
08:28.05HjalteAndune: with ag_uf ABF layout the healthbar turns grey for tabbed mobs
08:28.51AntiarcYou still have to be smart about table allocation, but I was under the impression that the level of aggressive table reuse you saw in Lua 5.0 wasn't nearly as necessary.
08:28.52Andunehjalte:  ok thx.  I'll look for it..
08:28.54AntiarcBut I may be wrong.
08:28.57ckknightAntiarc: no, actually, that's a myth created by poor testing.
08:29.10ckknightgranted, I think localized testing is better than Compost's
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08:31.00Adirell1anyone : if I read AceConsole right, a group .handler is inherited by its subgroups, isn't it ?
08:31.07ckknightlocalized recycling, I mean
08:31.11ckknightyes, Adirell1
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08:31.34ckknightbtw, that's part of the AceOptions data table spec, AceConsole is just an implementation of it
08:31.47inphmorning
08:32.04Sroshuhm, does someone know why all my SVs have been deleted?
08:32.44Adirell1ckknight: fine, thanks, maybe should i add it to option table wiki ?
08:32.51ckknightSrosh: deleted?
08:33.00ckknightAdirell1: oh, if it's not stated there, then yes, definitely
08:33.08ckknightSrosh: or just reset
08:33.09Sroshoh, wait, there're still there but all settings have been reset ingame
08:33.17ckknightSrosh: pastey your SVs
08:33.21ckknightof an addon that went bad
08:33.36CIA-1703gagorian * r23703 10DrDamage/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
08:33.36CIA-17DrDamage:
08:33.36CIA-17-Added the missing warlock/shaman/priest spelldata. Verified warlock/shaman
08:33.36CIA-17downranking on each spell/rank. Separated spell data into classes, if you don't
08:33.36CIA-17need the data for a certain class just delete it. Reduced memory usage.
08:34.06Sroshckknight, FuBar: http://ace.pastey.net/4616
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08:35.22Sroshmh, do I have to set the profiles for all ace2 addons again? :s
08:36.05inphsylvanaar or any of the prat guys awake?
08:36.24Sroshsetting the profile to class again worked for fubar (except for the plugins that use own profiles)
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08:37.08nymbiaSrosh: is your AceDB current?
08:37.09ckknightSrosh: thanks, fixed.
08:37.29Sroshrev 23654
08:37.41ckknightyou're out of date, Srosh ;-)
08:37.50Sroshye, seeing that :D
08:37.51nymbialol
08:37.53Sroshk, updating
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08:39.32GagorianIs anyone else experiencing that cartographer instance notes are in the wrong place in some instances?
08:39.48GagorianLike AQ40 (massive shift) and less in for example Stratholme
08:39.49ckknightyes, now either fix the positions or stop asking
08:39.56ckknightgah.
08:41.11GagorianDon't be offended, just asking to see if it needs to be fixed. Haven't really followed if that's been asked before because I only switched over today
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08:41.58sylvanaarinph: yo
08:42.10ckknightgets asked like every 3 hours
08:42.15ckknightthoroughly annoying
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08:42.37GagorianMyeah, will take a look at it tomorrow then if you want me to
08:42.45inphhey sylvanaar, i've got some enhancements for playernames - how's the best way to submit for you?
08:43.19sylvanaarinph: well, since i am working on 2.0 - just tell me
08:44.52inphheard of ForumName before?
08:45.46sylvanaarinph: no
08:47.18inphforumname would take the player's guild note
08:47.43inphand post-fix it to most of the chat functions that involved the players name
08:48.04inphwhere a guild would set the guild note for each player to match their forum account's name (or their main characters name)
08:49.09inphthe 2.01 re-write of forumname ended up with the author wanting to re-construct the entire chat line
08:49.22inphand broke a lot of chat mods/timestamps etc
08:50.11inphtypical output would be (my priest is called False, my note would be set to inph)
08:50.31inph08:50:00 [G] False (inph): blah blah blah
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08:51.12Funkeh`good morning
08:51.35inphin Prat you're already eval'ing the roster via Prat_PlayerNames:updateGuild
08:51.43Anduneinph:  just want the name in parents?  seen AKA?
08:51.53inphso i've just added Notes to that and into an array
08:52.19inphhttp://veterans.org.uk/games/wow/mods/PlayerNames.lua
08:53.16inphhavent seen AKA, but seeing as its like 6 lines worth of changes to Prat
08:53.28inphand no extra functions, I'd like to see it in Prat
08:57.16vinaurok gurus, noob question. playing around with AceOptions..trying to add a command that would look like /it [itemlink] How would I add that, since there is no option name, just usage part right away
08:57.39inphsubsequently leads me on to wanting to add rounded brackets to the player name options in prat
08:57.46inphand also make the ones around the player notes configurable
08:58.00inphhttp://home.pacbell.net/omicrom/mods/ForumName.html <-- readme for Forumname
09:00.19inphAndune got a link to AKA?
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09:02.02Hajitorusgoogle has a link to aka
09:02.11Hajitorusi found it with "aka wow addon"
09:03.46CIA-1703benumbed * r23705 10MusicStream/ (16 files in 3 dirs):
09:03.46CIA-17MusicStream:Added $Date% to files
09:03.46CIA-17- Fixed Volume Issues, and Standalone Frame from always showing if turned off.
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09:05.19Gagorianvinaur. type = "text"
09:06.11Gagorianitembonuseslib accepts an itemlink for example
09:06.25GagorianCheck the code from that if unsure
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09:07.44Gagorianbah, didn't notice he quit :(
09:07.52vinaursorry
09:08.11Benumbedso anyone have an idea on what to search for...to find how to hide the title that is placed on top of the menu window called from fubar?
09:08.18Benumbedsearched everything, cant find it
09:10.21inphAKA is a bit heavy really with addon channel communication etc
09:10.55inphhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3747
09:11.47ZealotOnAStickGagorian, still around?
09:12.45GagorianYeah, brushing my teeth :p
09:13.18ZealotOnAStickwith /print GetMouseFocus():GetRegions() I get identical, and to me, not very helpful results.
09:13.42ZealotOnAStickBoth return "<Texture:BuffButton3Icon>, <FontString:BuffButton3Count>
09:13.51ZealotOnAStickSame icon for the DS buff for both pets.
09:14.00ZealotOnAStick(well, that's what I got after I disabled Buffalo, anyway)
09:14.10Gagorianhrrmh
09:14.29AntiarcThis is awesome
09:14.41AntiarcI'm running a WSG team with 5 rogues, 4 hunters, and a druid
09:14.43ZealotOnAStickTheir tooltips are different . . .
09:14.50AntiarcWe've had 3 groups of Horde AFK out already.
09:15.06ZealotOnAStickWhile kludgy as hell, can you parse the tooltip info for it if the Touch of Shadow buff is present?
09:15.29GagorianI could but I didn't want to go there
09:15.43GagorianSeems like that's the only choice :P
09:16.26ZealotOnAStickWith them named and textured the same, I dunno what else to suggest.  Someone else might have an idea.
09:16.27GagorianOr then I just settle with the fact that nobody in their right mind would sac the felguard
09:16.36ZealotOnAStickMaybe talk to Nimbal?
09:16.53ZealotOnAStickUhm, no, I can see some situations where saccing him would be useful.
09:17.12GagorianYou're absolutely mistaken!!!
09:17.17GagorianIt's useless, nobody will use it!
09:17.24ZealotOnAStickWhile he's a lot of damage, there are a few "he just ain't gonna live, and 10% damage and 2% mana regen is better than the other options" cases I could figure.
09:18.12GagorianMyeah, wasn't completely serious ;)
09:18.26GagorianI'll have to think of something, will have to do for now that both grant 15%
09:18.56Nargiddley`the pet still exists for a few seconds after you sac them, when they gain the buff could you check which pet is out ?
09:19.19ZealotOnAStickunfortunately, since the damage bonus is one of those fun at-cast-time multiplier things, it's not reflected in the spell stats on the char frame
09:19.46ZealotOnAStickNargiddley: I logged back in with  DS up.
09:19.51ZealotOnASticknot to even mention reloadui
09:19.59Nargiddley`yeah thats the problem
09:20.03Gagorianyeah would work only situationally
09:20.14Nargiddley`maybe assume if they have the felguard thats what they sacced
09:20.15GagorianI can't even assume that if the player has the felguard talent he'd always sac a FG
09:20.27Nargiddley`i cant imagine speccing felguard then saccing the succ
09:20.30Gagorianwell succy is 15% damage, could be better than 10% damage 2% mana
09:20.36Gagoriandepends completely
09:20.45ZealotOnAStickBug Slouken to give it a different buff name.  ;)
09:20.49inphsylvanaar, any thoughts?
09:20.58GagorianLike on trash succy sac would be better
09:21.02Nargiddley`personally i'd never sac the succ if i had the option of the fg
09:21.03ZealotOnAStickSort of stupid that 2 different buffs share the name/icon.
09:21.28ZealotOnAStickI dunno.  If I had a couple of shadow priests in the group, Succy sac would be better.
09:21.47Nargiddley`hm
09:21.49ZealotOnAStickOr enough mana regen otherwise.
09:21.57Nargiddley`do the fg mana ticks show in the combat log ?
09:22.08Nargiddley`assume its a succ till you see one of those ?
09:22.28ZealotOnAStickI just logged out . . . but there's some way to figure it, they were showing on my SCT.
09:22.30Gagorianparsing combat log isn't much better than checking the tooltip
09:22.41BarbanusHmmm
09:22.46Barbanushttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/62188847.htm
09:22.57BarbanusSlouken talking abou tainting with the petbar
09:23.07Barbanushe wants to know mods that have issues with pet bars not showing in combat
09:23.44BarbanusI figure Bartender is probably one of them
09:23.59AntiarcWoot! Honor calculated!
09:24.03AntiarcSwiftblade, here I come.
09:25.26nymbiagrats Antiarc !
09:25.32Gagorianhmmh.. Registering the Combat_text_update event for that is a lot of spam for a marginal gain
09:25.33ZealotOnAStickQuick, someone write a mod called "DropOfAHat" and get it to taint the pet bar.
09:26.22ZealotOnAStickI'd say special casing a parse of the tooltip just for Touch of Shadow is probably the most reliable method.
09:26.39Gagorianyeah
09:26.44GagorianI'll just parse for 15% or 10%
09:26.49Gagorianshouldn't even need localization
09:27.01ZealotOnAStickOr put the onus on the user, and give them an option or something.
09:27.55GagorianI already have a lot of options :p
09:28.08ZealotOnAStickI should probably look at them sometime.
09:28.22CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23706 10Prat/Prat/modules/CopyChat.lua: Prat: Lazy addition of a possible copychat button
09:28.25GagorianI'll have think about it...
09:28.28ZealotOnAStickI sorta installed it, went "Oh, cool, there's numbers, and more tooltip info.  Ok." and went on.
09:28.43GagorianYeah and I added that AD trinket damage thing you asked for as optional
09:28.57Gagorianand fixed itembonuslib cause it was bugged and didn't detect it
09:29.04ZealotOnAStickYeah, I saw the commit on CIA. I just don' . .
09:29.13sylvanaarinph: you want rounded brackets?
09:29.14ZealotOnAStickAhah.  ok, never mind then.  ;)
09:29.49ZealotOnAStickYeah, I was curious about that, as when I mentioned it that night in the first place, it didn't seem to be showing on ItemBonusesFu, despite my having the damage for undead option selected.
09:31.01sylvanaarinph: you left out about 3/4 of your explaination - or i am not following
09:31.29GagorianZealotOnAStick: it didn't detect it at all cause the string was longer "Also allows you to collect scourgestones..."
09:31.42GagorianIt only could detect if it ended at the bonus
09:32.54Adirell1question: will "mymixin = AceOO.Mixin( { ... }, IMyInterface ) enforce embedgging object to comply with IMyInterface ?
09:32.57sylvanaarinph: http://groups.google.com/group/wow-prat + read how 2.0 works, its easy to add - to 1.0, not really
09:35.03Adirell1answering to myself : no, it will ensure Mixin itself complies with IMyInterface
09:35.43inphsylvanaar can you take a look at my version of playernames.lua?
09:35.50inphhttp://veterans.org.uk/games/wow/mods/PlayerNames.lua
09:36.00inphit's literally a few lines of code
09:38.16sylvanaarinph: yeah i just did, i didnt see it cause it wasnt prefixed with my name sorry
09:38.58sylvanaarinph: this is something that should go into 2.0 rather than 1.0, 2.0 is expressly designed for stuff like this
09:39.32inphyah, got like 30 ppl who use it with the ace updater and keep asking me to get it included :p
09:40.18sylvanaarinph: but as we are working on a generic chat string format mofule this isnt the best time - and i dont think that changes should be made to the trunk (because its messy to test)
09:41.05sylvanaaryou can always distribute your modified version privately
09:42.21sylvanaarhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua this is the 2.0 module - for comparison
09:42.42AntiarcHahahahah
09:42.44Antiarc2000/20 5-cap
09:43.14sylvanaarinph: the work is done in Prat_PlayerNames:Prat_PreAddMessage(
09:43.37inphjust looking
09:44.43inphwant another tester for 2.0? :p
09:45.26sylvanaarhowever we are wanting to experiment with a format string module so you would say "<%t>[%p]: %m" or something
09:46.29sylvanaarinph: yeah, need testers, you need an svn client, and to be available on irc. if you can that's great
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09:48.22inphyeah can do both
09:48.51sylvanaarZealotOnAStick: pet bar taint?
09:49.24[NNUser]ARGHEFG a
09:49.48cronoThe damn latest rev of AG Unit frames just decided to RESET all the damn posistions.
09:49.50cronoAGuwegfd agsf
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09:50.54cronoI cannot actually believe this.
09:50.56Gagoriancrono: Calm down.
09:51.23ZealotOnASticksylvanaar: was a bad joke in context of slouken on some link someone posted wanting to know which addons had issues with pet bar tainting.
09:51.56sylvanaaroh yay 2.0.4 fixes the pet bar taint
09:52.28sylvanaarZealotOnAStick: yeah, i posted in that thread
09:56.53cronoAwesome.
09:56.58cronoAll my SCT options fucked off too.
09:57.44Funkeh`hey Tekkub
09:57.52Tekkubm:P
09:59.21inphCrono if you check your SCT profiles you can load your old ones
09:59.34nymbiacrono: is your AceDB current?
09:59.50inphcharname "of" server became charname - server
10:01.25sylvanaar~rant
10:01.27purlrant is, like, at http://www.slacker.com/rant.html
10:02.57Adirell1does something like return a, b, c implicitely creates a table ? (rephrased, should I use return a,b,c or return Compost:Acquire(a,b,c))
10:03.06syerenI updated it to the latest version using WAU.
10:03.39sylvanaarnymbia: acedb had a namechane yeah
10:04.02Sparhawkeso many ace library errors
10:04.15nymbiasylvanaar: most stuff should have converted ok with the most recent, if not, then ckknight wants your savedvariables! ;)
10:04.46sylvanaarnymbia: they are mine! he cant have the topz sekretz!
10:04.50nymbiahaha
10:06.58Adirell1can anyone help me with this one : http://ace.pastey.net/4617
10:07.48sylvanaarAdirell1: i think tekkub made a page on that
10:07.59Adirell1hey, need this one :)
10:08.23sylvanaarhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Tips_and_tricks_for_using_..._in_WoW_2.0 could have been ckk too
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10:10.23CIA-1703gagorian * r23707 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: -Updated deDE and added Quick Recovery + deDE and frFR localizations
10:10.38ckknightno, I would've done it properly, knowing that lua 5.0 used 'arg' and not 'args'
10:10.44Adirell1sylvannaar : it don't answer my question :(
10:10.50Adirell1the point is not really how using ...
10:10.54sylvanaarAdirell1: o.O
10:11.15ckknightbut I've employed similar tricks
10:11.34ckknightoh, Adirell1, you're using unpack totally wrong
10:11.36ckknightthat's all.
10:12.02Adirell1i'll try to rephrase : if a function returns numerous arguments, will the list be expanded if it is called inside another function call ?
10:12.12ckknightuseList('a', makeList(), 'b') => useList('a', (makeList()), 'b')
10:12.27Adirell1ckknight : oki
10:12.31ckknight=> useList('a', ('b', 'c', 'd'), 'b')
10:12.36ckknight=> useList('a', 'b', 'b')
10:12.45Adirell1so i should use unpack ?
10:13.06sylvanaarif you do it in the middle you make a mess if your function can return variable numbers of args
10:13.16ckknightright, sylvanaar
10:13.41Adirell1maybe should i make more steps
10:14.42Adirell1ckknight : and if i want useList('a', --[[ insert *all* values returned by makeList here ]], 'b'), what would you suggest me ?
10:14.54ckknighthrm
10:14.54ckknightokay
10:15.05ckknightlocal function makeList(...)
10:15.11ckknightreturn 'b', 'c', 'd', ...
10:15.12ckknightend
10:15.19ckknightuseList('a', makeList('b'))
10:15.22Adirell1i see...
10:16.16Adirell1got used to Perl, but Perl has mean to enforce list context
10:16.26Adirell1s/mean/a way/
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10:26.02ckknighthere's a fun error: "Internal Bag Error"
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10:26.48CIA-1703funkydude * r23709 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: added frFR thanks to Obsidienne
10:26.48Funkeh`yeah
10:26.50Funkeh`i love those
10:26.55Funkeh`same as internal mail error
10:27.06Heriomm?
10:27.12Funkeh`happens whn a mod tries to do too much at once or something
10:27.17syerenWhat the fuck.
10:27.25syerenAG Unitframes don't change my health now.
10:27.30syerenIf I take damage, they stay 100%
10:27.32syerenAWESOME.
10:27.53inphyou're invincible!
10:27.55Funkeh`syeren: instead of crying about it create a costructive report and post it on the forum
10:28.06digitalruseAgUF: Now with God mode. ^_^'v
10:28.37syeren"I'm in BG, have a fury warrior beating on me, no health change, this is after AG_Unitframes forgot all my settings, and my health doesn't go down."
10:28.50syeren"No Bugs caught in my bug sack."
10:29.07digitalruseIt could be related to the Ace2 library problems.
10:29.45syerenNone of my values are going down, not even mana :/
10:30.23Funkeh`has this acedb bug been fixed that people are crying on the forum about?
10:30.25oxmanDo you know a standalone addon to calcul "honor by hour" "honor by day" etc ?
10:30.35Funkeh`@ckknight
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10:31.15ckknightgah, bitches need to just deal.
10:31.21Gngskamen
10:31.24ckknightproblem's fixed
10:31.33Funkeh`ok
10:32.00syerenOwned, a full frost fire mage started nuking me, no idea how much health I had though.
10:32.01syerenPlayed.
10:32.20ckknightand perhaps instead of bitching, they could actually be helpful in trying to fix it
10:32.34ckknightbut no, they're just bitches expecting us to be their slaves
10:32.56GngskPlayer haters.
10:33.05Funkeh`thats the way it is these days ck
10:33.18Funkeh`'products and users'
10:33.42ckknightI wonder if instead of giving a solution, I put up a paypal link
10:33.51ckknightthat says like "click here to fix AceDB errors"
10:34.09Industrial:p
10:34.16Funkeh`LOL
10:34.20Funkeh`<3
10:34.58ckknightmaybe it'll teach those bastards some humility
10:35.35Gngskdon't count on it
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10:35.55ckknightyea, but it might get me some money in the meantime
10:36.16Funkeh`ckknight: you will get replys, 'link broken, fix plz'
10:36.18ckknightimagine if every Ace user gave a dollar.
10:37.01oxmanI can give one ^^
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10:37.09ckknightlol
10:37.17oxmanI've already send 10 or 15 to wowace
10:37.17oxman:p
10:37.25ckknightpeople seem to give in 5 dollar increments
10:37.35ckknightthough one guy gave me like $3.62
10:37.40Funkeh`well theres a donate for the server
10:37.40nymbiaROFL
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10:38.00dafiremorning
10:38.04ckknightmorning, dafire
10:38.05Funkeh`as long as they donate the server will stay up and pumping that much loved wowaceupdater bandwidth
10:38.24ckknightfrankly, a paypal button needs to be added to WAU, imho
10:38.36nymbiableh, i can't for the life of me get lzwLib to work in the command line :'(
10:38.38Funkeh`actually thats not a bad idea
10:40.01digitalruseOut of curiosity, what would you recommend to people who want to help with those errors that elude BugSack/ErrorFrame?
10:40.22syerenBecome Omniscient.
10:40.44nymbiaor turn on debugging ;)
10:41.44digitalruseIs that particularly handy for errors as broad as Ace2 libraries?
10:41.54nymbianot usually, no
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10:43.05digitalruseI guess, more specifically, what additional information would have been useful to CK that the average Ace mod user could have provided?
10:43.48ckknightwhy they feel it's necessary to waste my time with their problem?
10:44.29ckknight;-)
10:44.41ckknightI've grown jaded towards users
10:45.13ckknightone problem is that after Discord stopped working we got a bunch of new members. Now these aren't Ace users, these are ex-Discord users
10:45.34Gngsklol
10:45.52inphyou have to admit though the Discord gui was "unique"
10:46.08Gngskif by unique you mean unbearable
10:46.12digitalruseWell, the Discord community has 'fixed' 90% of the old mod funtionality.  They could always go back.
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10:46.46digitalruseBy fixed, I mean applied bandaids to amputations.
10:46.50dafireah .. i have another dewdrop/tablet question ;) I open a dewdrop menu at the cursor when i click on the tablet of my fubar plugin.. is there a way to close the tablet with the click so the dewdrop is not hidden under the tablet window ? ;)
10:46.57Heriodiscord was so butt ugly and unuser friendly
10:47.01Herioi tried it once
10:47.05Herio... once...
10:47.12dafireI don't think i saw a close function .9
10:47.38ckknightdafire: *shrug*
10:47.38Herioif you set self.MenuOverride to true, there should be one
10:47.42ckknightit should close automatically.
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10:48.01Herioand it does, if you click away >.>
10:48.05digitalruseI still use DUF just because it is the most customizable frame mod... out side of that... other, more stable mods, have filled the gap.
10:48.06ckknightwell, it's more like I want to tell them all to quit their bitching. There's no goddamn reason why the Cartographer thread is 32 pages long. I stopped reading somewhere around page 15 or so
10:48.11dafireit close when i move the cursor right or left of the tooltip
10:48.16ckknightcause it just got to be too many goddamn bitchy users
10:48.23dafireand then go to the dewdrop .)
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10:49.01Heriooh
10:49.02Funkeh`ckknight: like i said, its all about gathering now
10:49.08Herioi understand the question now...
10:49.15Funkeh`since gatherer is afaik the most downloaded mod ever?
10:49.36Heriodamn farmers
10:49.40dafireit don't close if you click on the tablet since it's often used to fold the tablet sections i guess .0
10:49.53digitalruseForums are not exactly the best tool for version tracking, updates, feature requests, etc...  They certainly are the easiest and most userf friendly by far though.
10:49.59digitalruse^_^
10:50.19Heriothere are for discussion >.>
10:50.32ckknightI need something dev-friendly.
10:50.42ckknightnon-paying users can blow me
10:50.46dafiremake something a user can not post to ;)
10:51.33dafirevbulletin has paypal included that you can sell membership to a usergroup ,)
10:51.47ckknightI could lock the Cartographer thread and start a new one that only a few people can post to
10:51.59ckknighti.e. developers of Cartographer
10:52.20CIA-1703tekkub * r23710 10FuBar_ModMenuTuFu/Core.lua: FuBar_ModMenuTuFu - Now caches addon metadata to remove "laggy" menus (first time you open will still lag though, as all metadata is read)
10:52.24dafirewhat about a usergroup for deveolpers with a own subforum ?
10:52.33Gngskor start a cartographer thread in the dev forum and ask that users post in the one on the addon forum
10:52.47nevcairiel"ask the users" doesnt work.
10:52.58nymbiackknight: maybe rename the current one 'Cartographer Discussion' and make the new one "Cartographer Announcements" or somesuch
10:53.43Funkeh`i think it needs split
10:53.54Funkeh`carographer, cartographer_gatherer etc
10:54.03Funkeh`not every single external module in the same thread
10:54.07Funkeh`its too messy
10:54.16inphyou think the users are going to care what the thread is called?
10:54.19inph:p
10:54.22Funkeh`yes
10:54.59nevcairielthey dont care
10:55.01nevcairielthey dont read
10:55.04nevcairielthey just post
10:55.05ckknightbtw: I hope you people don't have a problem with taking donations or giving paying users special treatment. I mean, the addon is free as in beer and always will be, but I just don't feel my time is worth nothing for the unwashed masses
10:55.31nevcairiel"pay you" or "pay wowace" ? :D
10:55.48ckknightpay me for my mods. paying wowace is a separate issue.
10:55.53digitalruseThat doesn't stop people from starting their own feedback thread.  And to be honest, while some forms of feedback aren't helpful,  feedback is a necessary part of any software development.  The simple response to any feedback you don't like is "it is not part of my vision for the app."  Or... that is what the devs at work use. =P
10:56.17nevcairielheh
10:56.21ckknightdigitalruse: real users can take the time to come on IRC and talk to me here where I can respond back right away
10:56.29nevcairieli hate all those "stupid" people
10:56.35nevcairielasking all the same questions all over again
10:56.43Industrialyeah
10:56.45nevcairielwithout actually trying the functionality in game first
10:56.52Industrialthats not even stupidity, its lazyness
10:56.57FtH|eagleckknight: did you look at my changes now I did to group colors to color the people for the battlefield minimap?
10:56.58nevcairiela bit of both
10:57.13ckknightFtH|eagle: no, I didn't, actually, been busy
10:57.17FtH|eagleok
10:57.17Funkeh`maybe we need a more ffective way of reporting bugs
10:57.23digitalruseWell, I don't know how many of your average WoW mod users even know what IRC is. >.> <.<
10:57.23Funkeh`a noticable way
10:57.27CIA-1703jerry * r23711 10Links/ (Links.lua Links.toc):
10:57.27CIA-17Links:
10:57.27CIA-17_ Added configuration.
10:57.27CIA-17_ Added API desc.
10:57.33Funkeh`then we can tell people to fuck off when they report bugs on the forum
10:57.36nevcairielsome -good- bugtracker
10:57.42ckknightdigitalruse: so I don't need to worry about those people
10:57.48dafirethe problem is not the bugtracker but the people not using it ;)
10:57.58Funkeh`and we can start every post with USE THE BUGTRACKER FOR BUGS ANY BUGS POSTED HERE WILL BE IGNORED
10:58.17nevcairielthe bugtracker wouldve to be easy as pie to use
10:58.19Funkeh`and we all live hapily ever after
10:58.29syerenWhere can I get the working version of DUF, does anyone know?
10:58.34syerenI would rather like to use them :p
10:58.44Funkeh`join #duf?
10:58.46digitalruseCorrect, nev.
10:58.47IndustrialI just state that I dont develop software but i'm just sharing what i make, and that I like to talk in IRC.
10:58.52Tekkubor you could just do like me and stop trying
10:58.57nevcairielheh
10:59.00Tekkubif they don't hit GCode, I don't worry about them
10:59.03Funkeh`lol Tekkub
10:59.11TekkubI've said it more than enough
10:59.22digitalrusehttp://discord.tetzfiles.com/
10:59.26TekkubI read it on the forum and go "yup it's a bug" and promptly forget it
10:59.31nevcairieli tried google code, i tried using the WoWI portal
10:59.34nevcairielnothing helped :D
10:59.35Funkeh`i don't think removing mods from the svn is a good idea personally
11:00.01ckknightFunkeh`: me either
11:00.03Tekkubmy hubby is getting revenge on murlocks in westfall
11:00.04nymbiaTekkub: yeah.  you can tell between the users who give enough of a shit to give a proper, polite bug report, and those who don't.  easily.
11:00.09Tekkubhe let his treants loose on em
11:00.10Funkeh`kek
11:00.32dafireh a ll o no ki ll
11:01.00*** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203-118-186-231.bliink.ihug.co.nz)
11:01.04Soleyoyo
11:01.08ckknighthey
11:01.13SoleI am BACK
11:01.20ckknightyea, you have been gone.
11:01.26Solenew comp is so sexy :)
11:01.27Funkeh`oh no
11:01.29Funkeh`hes back
11:01.33nymbia~flee
11:01.41purlACTION runs away screaming
11:01.42SoleFLEE INSECTS!
11:01.47Solehahah
11:02.14Funkeh`sole you are too upbeat today, go read some forum bug reports that will get you down
11:02.24nymbiahaha
11:03.02Solewell i have 1 bug waiting for me when I finally get my WoW up
11:03.16Soleturns out WoW caps FPS report at 64FPS for dual core CPUs
11:03.23Solemaybe thats been fixed in 2.0
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11:04.08dafirethey had a fix on for 1.11 in testservers but took it back out because of problems
11:04.10inphdream on
11:04.27xlviiwhat's the command for !warmup that uh..
11:04.35xlviireloads your ui with warmup listing load times?
11:04.42inph/rl
11:04.47Solebut damn, going from 1 single 1.74GHz processor and 512DDR ram to 2x 2.4GHz  better processors and 2gb of DDR2 800 RAM is quite a noticeable improvement :O
11:04.57inph(the docs say /rlt someone should fix that)
11:05.17Solehmm, anybody use ChatZilla?
11:05.28Tekkub<PROTECTED>
11:05.32Funkeh`i do
11:05.52CIA-1703flutia * r23712 10AutoBar/Core.lua:
11:05.52CIA-17AutoBar:
11:05.52CIA-17- itemId nil check added for IsUsableItem.
11:05.53Tekkubhttp://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/wiki/Warmup
11:06.20Soleis it possible to add networks to ChatZilla?  my server's IRC is on enterthegame but CZ doesnt have it :(
11:06.49Solenvm found it
11:07.05Solehelps to read docs before asking questions, would make me look smarter than I really am
11:07.15Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3972.msg73236#msg73236 i grow tired of RETARDS
11:07.46CIA-1703jerry * r23713 10Talented/ (Talented.toc core.lua editmode.lua ui.lua viewmode.lua):
11:07.46CIA-17Talented:
11:07.46CIA-17_ Made templates in "class" instead of "char" namespace.
11:07.46CIA-17_ Added support of standard UIPanelWindows.
11:07.46CIA-17_ Addded a button to clear a complete talent branch in edit mode.
11:07.46CIA-17_ Added open & close sounds.
11:07.48CIA-17_ Updates to TOC.
11:07.59axxojust get the ban button
11:08.52Herioimo, the best bag addon is no bag addon
11:08.57syerenHe sewed his eyes shut, because he was afraid to see; He tries to tell me what I put inside me; He has the answers, to ease my curiosity; He made a god up, and called it Christianity
11:09.00syerenGod is dead
11:09.03syerenAnd no cares
11:09.06syeren*dances*
11:09.18Funkeh`lol
11:09.22Funkeh`random comments ftw
11:09.30syeren(audiosys™) Nine Inch Nails - Heresy (03:58|3.64MB)
11:09.32ckknightFunkeh`: I want to ban him out of spite
11:09.33syerenNot so random!
11:09.38Herioi mean when it comes to moving stuff in and out of the bank the quickest way is to move bags, and you can't really do that with a single bag set up
11:09.42Funkeh`don't please
11:09.48Funkeh`i enjoy yelling at him
11:09.49Solethat guy is hella stupid
11:09.52Funkeh`its cheering me up
11:09.54digitalruseYou still here Nymbia?
11:09.58nymbiadigitalruse: yup
11:10.31digitalruseI really am struggling with Manfac being grumpy.  What would be helpful?
11:10.40nymbiahit it with a stick.
11:10.43nymbiawhat's it doin?
11:10.46digitalruseIn reference to Enchanting being empty.
11:10.46inphI really didnt know that OneBag added 100+ addon folders according to his post, that's quite impressive really
11:11.14GanJaInterface\AddOns\BigWigs\Plugins\Bars.lua:210: attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value)
11:11.20nymbiadigitalruse: is it staying empty even after hitting escape a couple times and reopening in the menu?
11:11.26digitalruseThe categories show up just fine, but all I get is a thin empty menu when I hover over them.
11:11.27GanJawhy is that error coming up every once in a while?
11:11.30digitalruseYes, indeed.
11:11.52Solemaybe someone here is more savy that me,  my new HD is a barracuda 320GB SATA2...there is only one partition: C. However C is only 130GB. Where the hell is the the other 190GB!?
11:11.52digitalruseLet me snag a screenie.
11:11.57nymbiadigitalruse: you must be getting some errors, then?
11:12.21nymbiaSole: i ate it.
11:12.36GanJaand this error....
11:12.37dafirereserved for blizzard anti cheat program ,9
11:12.41GanJaInterface\AddOns\BigWigs\Options.lua:166:attempt to call method 'IsBossModule' (a nil value)
11:12.57inphSole, it's probably not partitioned
11:13.17WorfSole: i'd guess: after that 130GB... :)
11:13.18GanJajust updated bigwigs to 21935
11:13.20inphcheck in admin tools -> computer management -> disk management
11:13.39Funkeh`21935 is ancient
11:13.45digitalruseNo errors, that is what makes it so bizarre.
11:13.57GanJaerrr
11:14.02Soleok thanks
11:14.16nymbiadigitalruse: huh, that is odd.
11:14.25nymbiadigitalruse: other professions working ok?
11:15.06digitalruseYeah.
11:15.12digitalruseEngineering, FA, Cooking.
11:15.15digitalruseAll seem fine.
11:15.26dafireyou can start it with "diskmgmt.msc" in the execute box
11:15.30Soleinph, disk management says theres 170gb unallocated
11:15.41inphif you want that all in one drive
11:15.44nymbiadigitalruse: is this a new development since this morning or so?
11:15.46digitalrusehttp://offsite.theruse.net/images/wow/manufacerror.jpg
11:15.58Solethats weird, the total is 298GB,  is it natural for 22GB to be missing?
11:16.08Worfhmm - now that you mention bigwigs: i had some errors in the middle of the lucifron fight in MC last time... i should propably install something like bugsack to be able to report them later, right?
11:16.08dafirethats normal
11:16.10inphyou'll need to use something like Partition Magic, Parted or reinstall
11:16.23dafiredisc manufactures still think a gb is 1000 mb
11:16.40inphwhen the real world uses 1024 mb
11:17.04nevcairielmhm
11:17.05inphor if you dont mind 2 drives
11:17.16nevcairielsome addon causes my "shift-click on stack to split" to error.
11:17.16inphyou can just partition the space and allocate a new drive letter
11:17.20nevcairielwonder which
11:17.21nymbiawell they know that 1 mb = 1024 kb, they just market 300,000 mb drives as 300 gb cuz they're jerks.
11:17.38Heriouhm
11:17.53digitalruseI first saw it on January 2nd at 2:10PM forum time.
11:17.59ckknight1 MiB = 1024 KiB
11:18.00Herioi think the base 2 versions are MiB while the base 10 is MB and etc
11:18.03Soleinph: Ill just make a new drive , thanks :)
11:18.07syerenFucking Alliance, most fucking horrible players ever ---
11:18.11Heriomebibyte is the term
11:18.19syerenWinning AB in a PUG = Not heppening :(
11:18.26Herioget a team?
11:18.35syerenUnfortunatly, no one is awake.
11:18.44Heriosleep is ncie
11:18.48syerenWe spend 13 hours yesterday with a 100% win record :P
11:18.52Herioor doing something else =/
11:18.53syerenDruid + BoF = Gay shit.
11:18.54dafirewe won yesterday 5:0 .. 6 times in a row ;)
11:19.05Worfinph: grow with partition magic? why would anybody make his C: partition use the whole Disk? :)
11:19.13GanJa23708 version of BigWigs keeps having an error finding the 'db' variable and also doesn't want to find 'IsBossModule'
11:19.20Heriousually we do a 4:0 on the mine, cause it's more fun that way ^_^
11:19.26Herioerr 4:1
11:19.30Tekkubworf, cause he stores his data on a fileserver?
11:19.31SoleIve always likes having my programs installed on C: and having my files and all that on E
11:19.41dafirei think partition the disk is no longer that important as it was some years ago .9
11:19.46TekkubI'm lazy, now that my shit's on the server I don't part out my drive
11:20.06Worfinph: ok, point - but unlikely if it's a 320GB system disc then when 6-12GB would do :)
11:20.37Heriohaving the system partition the minimal size to fit windows will decrease defragementation time of the system files
11:20.59Tekkubsystem files shouldn't fragment....
11:21.02Herioand also having a 2gb (or whatever size) parition for your page file is is nice...
11:21.03Heriowell
11:21.08dafireyesterday i was translating fishes and then i made 2 bg's with my fishing pole instead of gm weapon in my hand
11:21.18Heriowith windows and their tarded updates
11:21.22Worfwell - minimal is to small - you'll have to repartition then if you want to install new drivers :)
11:21.41Solethis computer is too fast for me, I gotta get used to not waiting for stuff to process
11:21.53digitalruseI gotta get to bed Nymbia, maybe I'll catch you sometime tomorrow.  Any other quick questions I can answer or provide?
11:22.16nymbiadigitalruse: nope, thanks though :D
11:22.16WorfSole: there is a fix coming out somewhen this year propably... called Vista i think ...
11:22.29Solehaha
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11:22.42TekkubI'm still not convinced about Vista
11:22.45nevcairiellol
11:22.54SoleI havent read anything about Vista whatsoever
11:23.00SoleI just heard ramblings from a nerd I know
11:23.02Herioi wasn't convinced about xp until i was convinced that ME was crap
11:23.03TekkubI'll put it on my laptop just cause I can get a "legal" version for $15 S&H
11:23.06inphother than formatting/reinstalling/integrity checking there's not much paritioning has to offer in windows
11:23.08Herioboy was i nieve
11:23.08Solebut hes a fuckhead so I dont really listen to his opinions
11:23.12Tekkubwhich is bullshit... let me DL a fucking image
11:23.18nevcairieli tried vista business which i got from my MSDNAA thingy at university
11:23.18syerenI heard they spent some stupid amount of money on the windows audio file :P
11:23.23nevcairieli dunno, didnt like it
11:23.23Elkanois it "Muddy Chruning Water" or "Muddy Churning Water"?
11:23.44nymbiaElkano: second one
11:23.51Solesend one
11:23.53Solesecond one
11:23.58Soleman FUCK THIS COMPUTER
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11:24.05SoleI cant remember my gmail password!
11:24.12Heriouhm
11:24.13nymbialol
11:24.18hatinevcairiel: hello. there's a problem with the latest sraidframes  localization.frFR.lua
11:24.20Heriohave them email it to your gmail account
11:24.25nevcairielwhat do i care
11:24.27Solegotta love firefox and auto-password completion
11:24.33Solehavent had to log into it for about a year
11:25.14hatiyouve changed some strings (Reset the position of sRaidFrames etc.) and not reported the modifications to the locale files
11:25.15Herionevcairiel: i believe the proper reponse is "Make a fix and up it to the SVN, if you don't have SVN access, give me a diff."
11:25.17Herioimo
11:25.22CIA-1703elkano * r23714 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua:
11:25.22CIA-17Cartographer_Fishing
11:25.22CIA-17- fixed Muddy Churning Water typo
11:25.25nevcairielsRF is not mine
11:25.40Heriowell, there we go
11:25.55hati(maybe it s saroz mods...)
11:26.02GanJais it ok to post links to mods/additions here?
11:26.13nymbiasure
11:27.43GanJahttp://files.bfddesigns.net/mods/Shindigs/BigWigs_ReportMod-r70106.rar - BigWigs Report mod. As well as all the boss mods properly formated for engaging/disengaging.
11:27.57Heriolovely
11:27.59Heriowhat's it do
11:28.09GanJaReports what is happening in the boss fight to a channel
11:28.24GanJaYou simply copy paste those files into your current Bigwigs and it will work
11:28.40Herioso, it's like raidwarn for any channel?
11:28.46Herioerr...
11:28.57GanJaDread and DNT have been using the beta of this for a while on Korgath to watch our own raids for members not in the raid as well as watch each other's raids
11:28.59GanJano
11:29.04GanJait reports boss %
11:29.08GanJaas well as loot
11:29.16GanJaengaging, wiping
11:29.22GanJadefeating
11:29.31GanJasome minor misc things such as phase changes
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11:29.37GanJaall with thier own options
11:29.45Herioi see
11:29.46GanJato turn them on or off
11:30.04Heriois this your code?
11:30.07CIA-1703nymbia * r23715 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: a couple debugs to help track down digitalruse's bug
11:30.08GanJayes
11:30.15CIA-1703funkydude * r23716 10OneBag/OneBag.toc: OneBag - updated description
11:30.26GanJaI've been writing/working on it for about 2 months total now when someone gave me the idea.
11:30.33CIA-1703funkydude * r23717 10OneBank/OneBank.toc: OneBank - updated description
11:30.43CIA-1703funkydude * r23718 10OneView/OneView.toc: OneView - updated description
11:30.44GanJaOriginally needed heavy re-coding of BigWigs but now it's just plug-n-play
11:30.46Heriowell if you want to share it with the community i'd suggest you put it in the SVN... o.O
11:30.58CIA-1703funkydude * r23719 10OneRing/OneRing.toc: OneRing - updated description
11:30.59Herioso... it's not a seperate module?
11:31.00GngskGanJa, is it meant for people who aren't currently in the raid or what?
11:31.08GanJahow?
11:31.20Heriowhat do you mean, now?
11:31.25Herio*how
11:31.47GanJaGngsk: yes and no. DNT runs it in thier raids and Dread runs it in our raids and we sit in each other's channel. We also have members who are on the waitlist who watch the reporting as well
11:32.37Funkeh`GanJa: looks nice
11:32.43Funkeh`but it won't make the actual addon
11:32.49Funkeh`you can ahve it external np
11:32.59Funkeh`just get an svn account and stick it on
11:33.13GanJayea I'm looking into that now
11:33.33Herioshouldn't be to hard to make it a seperate addon, you should be able to hook whatever needs to be, etc
11:33.49GanJaIt's a BigWigs plugin
11:33.55Herioyeah
11:34.00GanJathe plugin itself is pretty small and works great
11:34.03Herioah
11:34.16GanJabut there are alot of older BigWigs bossmods which aren't formated correctly
11:34.16inphCSBot for wow!
11:34.18Funkeh`can i also suggest dont call it reportmod
11:34.31Funkeh`BigWIgs_Reporter sounds better or _Report
11:34.31GanJaso included is all the boss mods which are now formated correctly
11:34.52GanJaPeople keep telling me to call is Shindigs lol
11:34.58Heriobigwigs_sitrep?
11:35.05Heriobigwigs_progressreport?
11:35.25axxoepeen
11:35.27inphBigWigs_Infocom!
11:35.31inphtext based games ftw
11:35.46Funkeh`but like i said you will need to redesign it to be external
11:35.52Funkeh`like ThaddiusArrows etc
11:36.04GanJait is external
11:36.14Funkeh`ah ok
11:36.21GanJaThe only thing that may be considered internal
11:36.29GanJais the fact in the rar is a bunch of diff boss mods
11:36.38Funkeh`yeah ^^
11:36.42GanJawhich have been formatted to tell the users when you engage and to check for wipes
11:36.52GanJalike the Naxx mods have been
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11:37.09inphpersistent death counter would be nice
11:37.12GanJaAnd there are a few "skeleton" mods for bosses which Bigwigs didn't have mods for
11:37.16inphwell specifically warlock deaths since the patch
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11:37.31Heriohmm?
11:37.45GanJaSuch as Golemagg, Garr, Kurr (in aq20)
11:38.06GanJathe Report mod picks up what boss mods are working atm and then starts to display info based on that
11:38.18GanJaso without a mod running for the boss the report mod won't report anything
11:38.19Funkeh`i don't think aq20 bosses really need mods, but you should have them external also
11:38.29Funkeh`separate
11:38.38Herioinph: shouldn't a raid status addon do that?
11:38.47GanJaaq20 already has mods
11:39.04GanJaonly one was needed to be added, as I stated it's a skeleton mod
11:39.38Funkeh`i know aq20 has boss mods, i thought your talking about other mods, like cthunwatched for cthun
11:39.48Funkeh`-d+r
11:39.53GanJaThe layout for this mod is this...
11:40.12GanJaThe reportmod is it's own plugin for BigWigs, just sits there and runs
11:40.15inphpersistent, so total deaths ever would be nice :p
11:40.27Heriooh
11:40.38Herioyou mean like a damage meter for deaths?
11:40.52HerioSWStats does that i think
11:40.53GanJaHowever the plugin requires boss addons to be formatted for engaging and wiping on the boss to pick up the correct info. To do so alot of the older bossmods had to have a few lines of code added to them.
11:40.55inphyes but keeps track of deaths over a long period of time (well since we started raiding)
11:41.06GanJaThat's what is included in the rar
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11:41.44inphyou cant really purge all data bar the death data from swstats
11:41.54Funkeh`GanJa
11:42.04Funkeh`diff files would be nice
11:42.14Heriouhm
11:42.15Herioso...
11:42.19Heriowhat do you want, then?
11:42.44Heriooh you mean a death counter, for your own character?
11:42.50inphA long term persistent death counter for raid members
11:43.01Herioeeeh
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11:43.19Heriolong term data collection is always... not so great...
11:43.31inphultimately provides data along the lines of "this player has died the most over the last year"
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11:44.09inphi suppose you could use it to see how much you should be charging hunters/rogues for in missing repair costs :p
11:44.28Funkeh`GanJa also please make sure you are using the latest revision of the boss modules
11:44.48Herioif you export your meter data to an external source, and have it stored there (a webpage)
11:44.50Worfbut then also track every single shoot, and what type of ammunition is used! :)
11:45.12Herioit would be the best way to do these long term data analysis stuff imo...
11:45.29break19Worf: exactly.. what hunters save in terms of repair costs is made back up by ammo costs.
11:46.00inphNever seen a hunter spend 80g+ per night on ammo :p
11:46.05break19or does Mr raid leader think projectiles grow on trees :p
11:46.20inphbesides when you're learning new encounters do hunters actually get to fire that many arrows?
11:46.34break19never seen my wife's 60 druid spend that on repair costs.. if you die THAT much, perhaps it's time for l2play :p
11:46.48Worfevery class has it's costs - and the differences between the classes are smaller than the differences between people who do everything they can (inclusive drinking pots and so on) and people who don't
11:47.35inphworks for most - except hunters
11:47.52break19besides, *this* hunter has a chance to save the raid if he fd's.. engineer :p
11:47.54inphi've walked out of learning nights on my hunter with 3-4g repairs
11:48.23inphusually if you're learning an encounter you wont use enough mana to drink a MMP
11:48.32Worfok, true
11:48.44GanJaYes Funkeh they are the latest
11:49.02inphrogues tend to die more during encounters - so them vanishing at the end to save themselves doesnt really count
11:49.03Worfa small exception was the double repair cost bonus for hunters at vaelastras :)
11:49.21break19plus all the EZ-Thro Dynamite ][ in the world.. all the MTS get some :)
11:49.35CIA-1703dafire * r23720 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua:
11:49.35CIA-17Cartographer_Fishing
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11:50.03inphdouble repair cost bonus?
11:50.28inphif you die to BA or someone else exploding you dont take durability loss :p
11:50.45Worfwe did give all the soulstones on hunters... so they could stand up and fight after they got Burning Adrenaline... (we considered the hunters being the class that could do most damage without the mana reg buff)
11:50.50break19ok, enough chatting, I'm late for a delivery, and my semi is governed to 65mph.. *wave*
11:51.26Worfinph: well, that time we didn't get enough heal to die without durability loss
11:52.17Industrialnevcairiel: you made bartender3 right?
11:52.44Industrialnevcairiel: the PetActionButtons have a NormalTexture2 you can set the aplha 0 of with the styles
11:52.54Industrialso you dont get the fugly border
11:52.54Industrial:p
11:53.55inphGanJa - the bigwigs addon sounds really good btw
11:54.01dafireL[lootName] is short for L:GetTranslation[lootName] right ?
11:54.02inphi'm going to give it a go and let you know
11:54.28dafireum wrong bracers .9
11:54.33CIA-1703ckknight * r23721 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - if the zone changes and the map isn't shown, SetMapToCurrentZone()
11:54.46GanJaFunkeh: IDK if this is actually a problem or it's just me... but in the 4h fight when I'm tanking say Thane and Mograine dies... there is an issue with the reporting of the death if your not in the middle... cuz while in that spot Mograine isn't actually loaded on my screen.
11:55.27Funkeh`GanJa please type my full name so my client will wanr me when you speak to me
11:56.59Funkeh`im not sure what you mean
11:57.13GanJaDo you know the basis of the 4h fight?
11:57.46Funkeh`yes
11:57.53GanJaEach one is tanked in one corner of the room, Without distance turned all the way up when I go to one to tank the other on the other side of the room is not visible for me
11:58.01GanJaIE I can't target him
11:58.14inpheven with distance turned up you cant see?
11:58.23inphwell combatlog distance
11:58.41GanJaThat's what I'm asking. If I can't see him will my combat log still pick him up?
11:59.09Funkeh`yes
11:59.39Funkeh`remember increasing your combatlog range increases the amount of messages parsed therefore increasing kbps
11:59.57GanJaI'm on Cable I personally don't care lol
12:00.02GanJabut thx for the warning
12:00.16Funkeh`kbps as in memory not bandwidth
12:00.17Industrialno memory increase :P
12:00.31GanJanot worried about that either =)
12:00.34Funkeh`ok
12:00.37grollanyone got time for a quick question?
12:00.49inphincreased burden on cpu + memory
12:00.50Funkeh`well yes is the answer to your question
12:00.56groll:P
12:01.02GanJaHowever if that is the case you might wanna consider syncing the 4h deaths then for users who are worried about that
12:01.29grollwell ok since i'm no coder i'm just wondering how often one could run a check to see if buff x has faded without it having a really high impact on performance
12:01.51nevcairielIndustrial: i know, but i cba to do it yet :D
12:01.59grolland is there a difference between checkign for a buff fading right now or if it's still up?
12:02.05Industrialnevcairiel: lol ok :P
12:02.44Industrialthis.NormalTexture or this.Normaltexture2 there you go copy paste commit
12:02.47Industrial:P
12:02.47GanJaGroll: You could make an addon when you recieve a buff to make a scheduled event to do w/e towards the end of the buff.
12:02.59Industrialer, other way around :S
12:03.03GanJaGroll: It wouldn't be that reliable though
12:03.42GanJaGroll: As far as that is concerned it's probly best to just scan the Buffs every 10 seconds to check w/e you need then do w/e you need
12:03.42grollwhy i'm asking is due to how smartbuff checks it seems, i can set it to check if my buff is up to as low as every 5 seconds but there are addon that tell you instantly if a buff fades kinda
12:04.39GanJaThe addons which tell you as soon as your buffs fade are simple keeping a DB of what buffs you have on you and then when your buffs change it looks to see if that buff is there then and if not do what your talking about
12:05.32grollhmm okies
12:05.34inphwhat about sct buff fades?
12:05.38Ominouswhich is 1024kb? 1MB or 1MiB?
12:05.46inphare those not pretty instant?
12:06.10Funkeh`1mb
12:06.33grollinph heh i think they are but they are parsed from the combatlog i think
12:10.15Tekkub1024KiB is 1MiB
12:10.23Tekkubyou can't mix your units
12:10.43Tekkubit'll only confuse you
12:11.44Funkeh`MiB is a microbyte?
12:11.50Tekkub1024kb is 0.122MiB
12:11.56TekkubMibiByte
12:12.09CIA-1703jerry * r23722 10Links/Links.lua: Links: removed debug code
12:12.13Tekkubk == 1000, b = bit, B = byte
12:12.26TekkubMi = 1024*1024
12:12.48Industrialwhats the i :p
12:12.57TekkubMi == Mibi
12:13.36Industrialweird. i thougt it was Mb Megabit and MB Megabyte
12:14.10nadasOminous: can i bug you for a sec? :)
12:14.15Ominoussure
12:14.38nadas1: your texture paths in RogueTimerFu seem to be borked :)
12:14.48GanJaFunkeh`: is there anyway to wipe a boss module or un-register it? Or even just remove it's Local things such as "local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("BigWigs"..boss)"?
12:14.51nadasseems you replaced 'self' into them?
12:14.57Ominousoh bah
12:15.05nadas2: i can't get Find Weakness to show up :(
12:15.17Ominouswell got my beta client up so i can test it now
12:15.23nadas:)
12:16.11Funkeh`GanJa: in most cases self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH", "GenericBossDeath") should work
12:16.17nadasother than that i have nothing to report ;)
12:16.18CIA-1703ominous * r23723 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: -texture paths fixed
12:16.49Ominousi must remmber to test without surfaces up :P
12:16.51CIA-1703dafire * r23724 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: replaced L[lootName] with L:GetReverseTranslation(lootName)
12:17.07GanJaFunkeh`: I don't know what your talking about but the issue I'm having atm is when I put the plguin into it's own thing and loaded it the boss mods are giving me this error:
12:17.09Ominousnadas: what rev have u got?
12:17.11Funkeh`but ifyou need to do it manually for example like the 4hm if self.db.profile.bosskill then self:TriggerEvent("BigWigs_Message", string.format(AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("BigWigs")["%s have been defeated"], boss), "Bosskill", nil, "Victory") end
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12:17.23nadasOminous: 23613
12:17.44Funkeh`self.core:ToggleModuleActive(self, false)
12:18.09GanJaInterface\AddOns\Shindigs\ZG\Arlokk.lua:14:AceLocal(BigWigsHigh Priestess Arlokk):Cannot provide the same locale more then one. "enUS" provided twice.
12:18.26Funkeh`thats because you have folders inside bigwigs and outside
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12:18.38Funkeh`which most people get because you downloaded from curse and the svn
12:18.45GanJano no
12:18.50GanJaI made the folders outside
12:19.02GanJacuz the boss mods have to be formatted to work correctly
12:19.14GanJaor the report mod won't pick up on those bosses
12:19.23anenigmahmm.  some addon is cancelling my devotion aura when clicking on a flight master.  at least, i assume it's an addon.  does default UI do this?
12:19.29GanJais there a way to remove the ones BigWigs does or erase them or reset them?
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12:20.19GanJaAnenigma: I believe the default UI may do this now due to the crusader aura increasing flight path speed. I'm not sure though
12:20.31anenigmaooh, good point.
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12:21.09Funkeh`i think you could just remove the localazation registering from the files
12:21.16Funkeh`im presuming you have customized them somehow
12:22.25Tekkub*snicker* I never noticed that lyric before
12:22.43Funkeh`if you need inpspirations/examples look at the way other external modules are deisgned,
12:22.49Tekkub"Today I saw a man using an empty whiskey flask as a walkie-talkie
12:23.12Funkeh`Tekkub wtf? :P
12:23.22TekkubUnderworsd, they're odd
12:23.25Tekkub*world
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12:33.08dafirehow long is a pastey saved ? :)
12:33.16Tekkub2 min
12:33.48dafirethats short .9
12:33.57Tornhoofare the last sRaidFrames builds kinda buggy?
12:34.02Tekkub:P I'd expect indefinatly
12:34.38Funkeh`hey
12:34.43Funkeh`piece 2 is out
12:34.46Funkeh`of 2.0.3
12:34.51Funkeh`on the background downloader
12:34.56Tekkubpiece 2? huh?
12:34.59Tekkuboh
12:35.03Tekkubshitty downloader
12:35.14Funkeh`i use a torrent client
12:35.27Funkeh`usually get more speed
12:35.36Tekkub2.0.3 being applied the day TBC goes retail I assume?
12:35.48Funkeh`yeah
12:35.54Funkeh`i think
12:36.06Tekkubgood, I can finally fix MountMe and FuzzyLogic correctly then
12:36.16Tekkuband Cork
12:36.33Funkeh`^^
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12:37.47GanJaFunkeh`: is there anyway to hook function AceLocale.prototype:RegisterTranslations(locale, func) globally instead of with each module?
12:38.26CIA-1703tornhoof * r23725 10Yata/ (Options.lua readme.txt):
12:38.26CIA-17Yata:
12:38.26CIA-17- Tooltips Options were missing in action
12:38.38Tornhoof2.03 will be applied before BC
12:38.47Tornhoofand then at bc release a new one
12:38.53Tornhoofatleast thats how i understood it
12:39.08nadasOminous: you may wanna check your chatcommands too. seems '/roguetimerfu' turned into '/self' during the same replace.. :)
12:39.15nymbianah 2.0.3 is the TBC patch
12:39.34nymbiathough slouken was talking about 2.0.4 fixes already so i'm sure it's not far after.
12:39.41Ominoussigh oki, fixed FW apart from re-applications :/ and Remorseless attacks too
12:39.44Tornhoofyeh thaT's what i though
12:39.50Tornhoofor maybe they'll merge it
12:40.53nadasOminous: :p
12:41.30Ominousthe slash command for my warlock one is /wtf :D
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12:45.53syerenHmm, I'm having trouble make Baggins make a new catergory / bag for my Sacred Candles :/
12:46.17nymbiause the item id, or the PT set Reagent - Priest
12:47.44syerenI just did that in Catergory, and yet the Bag I made is still empty, how strange :p
12:48.23Solegoddamn
12:49.09SoleI just updated from  1.0 to 1.12  full patch in < 20 sec ...that wouldve taken like 5 min on my old comp :D ...Im a happy camper
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12:50.09Solebleh 40min left on 2.0 :\
12:52.13Nargiddley`syeren, did you close the category editor or press apply after making the rule ?
12:52.19Tornhoofthey should publish a full patch for tbc release
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12:54.08Industrialding 30
12:54.27Solewell Im certain the CD in the TBC box will contain the update from WoW 2.0/WoW 1.0 through to TBC
12:54.44Solebut still its a pain in the ass to DL  800mb of patches :(
12:57.00Industrialthats like 30 mins
12:57.01Industrial:P
12:57.24dafirei guess the discs in the tbc box contain 2.0.0 .. not even 2.0.1 ,)
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12:58.16dafirethey are already shipping to the shops so the content is more then a month old i think
12:58.42nevcairielit went gold two weeks ago or so
12:58.46nevcairiel2.0.3 was already out
12:58.52Tornhoofaccording to blue
12:58.58Tornhoofit was "gold" in november
13:01.01nevcairielbut who cares anyway
13:01.05nevcairielits the fixed content
13:01.08nevcairielon the disc
13:01.11Tornhoofyeh
13:01.13nevcairieland a patch download :D
13:01.15Tornhoofrather a question
13:01.26Tornhoofhow much they'll let you download for patch
13:01.52nevcairieleverything you need to continue playing without having BC
13:03.08dafirei think amazon finally got the info how many ce they get since you can preorder them again
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13:04.24Tornhoofyou can't anymore here
13:04.33Adirell1I feel the addon I'm working on is becoming a giant squish that tries to eat me... :s
13:06.13Adirell1It started from a skill timer bar addons and it is becoming a pluggable timer bar system, with skill timers and battleground timers as default plugins
13:07.06Adirell1the whole thing OO'ed to death...
13:07.28Ominoushmm can i add "Blade Twisting" and its debuff name "Dazed" to babble spell?
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13:10.51inphCan you also make it proc more often1
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13:29.16grollhmm has there been some "major" changes or something to ace or something? wondering cause a lot of my settings for various addons has been reset o_O
13:29.24grolland i know i havent done anything :P
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13:32.35[Ammo]there were changes to AceDB
13:32.44grollokies
13:33.00grollit's not all addons but like sct and umm some others
13:33.03grollnothing major though
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13:35.17Solewhere can I find haste's addons now?   the link to his website is on a dead comp ;(
13:35.38Solei know its google code  but searching for oCD on google code doesnt find jack
13:35.40CIA-1703ominous * r23726 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
13:35.40CIA-17Babble-2.2:
13:35.40CIA-17- Added Blade Twisting and Dazed, non enUS locals need updating
13:35.40CIA-17- Added Blade Twisting Icon
13:35.45inphhttp://fuxsake.net/
13:36.09Solethank you
13:38.17CIA-1703ominous * r23727 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
13:38.17CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
13:38.18CIA-17- Blade Twisting works, Find Weakness works, Remorseless Attacks works
13:38.18CIA-17- All above according to beta and test realm
13:38.18CIA-17- Fixed slash command
13:39.05Dhirmadihi all. can anyone give me a short hand with agUF?
13:40.04Solewhatcga need?
13:40.44Ominous~seen nymbia
13:41.10purlnymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (11h 46m 37s) #wowace (11h 46m 37s). Has said a total of 65 messages. Is idling for 54m 53s, last said: 'use the item id, or the PT set Reagent - Priest'.
13:41.10nymbia~flee
13:41.18purlACTION runs away screaming
13:41.18Dhirmadisomehow my Combopoint (on my rogue) do not longer show
13:41.18Ominoushehe
13:41.24evlhttp://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/legendary-axe-id1859/
13:41.27evlnow that's over the top
13:41.32Ominouscan you tell me if the new rev works with FW :)
13:41.45Dhirmadii checkd all the settings, they havennt changed,m but somehow the combopoints do not show. perhaps a bug introduced?
13:41.46nymbiafw?
13:41.57Tornhoofgo paste it evl, can't even connect there
13:42.12Ominousfind weakness
13:42.27evlIt's a legendary Axe that Equip: Immune to Fear
13:42.28nymbiai dont have a rogue :(
13:42.32Ominousoh
13:42.40Ominousbah wrong name
13:42.40Tornhoof2hand 1hand?
13:42.42Ominous:D
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13:42.53nymbia;)
13:42.57Soleso whats the purpose of Cartographer_Stats?
13:43.06evl2 hand axe
13:43.21Tornhoofhighly unlikely
13:43.21Ominous~seen nadas
13:43.43purlnadas is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 1h 2m 50s, last said: 'Ominous: :p'.
13:43.43sbuSole: best farmspots for ores/herbs?
13:44.02Dhirmadithis means noone in here can give me a hand, correct?
13:45.09Solesbu: guess I should see it in game instead of just looking at the code then :P
13:45.56sbuhm, yep :p
13:47.06evlGrom'ogh, Edge of Hellscream: Two-Hand Axe, 472-684 Damage (156.2 DPS), 3.7 Speed. +82 Str, +74 Sta. Req: Level 70. Equip: +8+ crit, +35 hit, Grands wielder immunity to Fear effects. Chance on hit: unleashes the fury of Hellscream, increasing AP by 700, and making you immune to stun and movement effects for 15 seconds
13:47.10evlNow that's a fucking axe :D
13:47.30Soleyea but is it real?
13:47.37evlPulled from TBC files
13:47.42evlBut so was Ashbringer so
13:47.47evlLet's not get excited :P
13:48.52nadasOminous: hey, what's up?
13:49.05Ominousare u using 2.01 release?
13:49.08nadaswas grabbing some food :)
13:49.13nadasyeah, 2.0.1 live
13:49.18Ominousif so can you tell me if Find Weakness works now
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13:50.10nadassure, gimme a sec
13:50.26Solewell, there is Corrupted Ashbringer so Im thinkin Ashbringer will be lvl 70 legendary
13:51.36nadasOminous: works
13:51.40Ominousyay
13:51.48Ominousunfortunatly re-applications wont
13:52.37mexicaanIs there a similair ace 2 addon that does the same thing as  Cryolis ?
13:53.19nadasOminous: btw, did you list adrenaline rush under both buffs and stuns on purpose?
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13:53.30Ominousnope :D
13:53.53nadashehe
13:54.23Skewdoes anyone know how to hide the default bartender3 layouts while using cycircled?
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13:57.32ag`ah that's just fucking great
13:57.46ag`I forgot my visa at the pizzaria yesterday
13:57.53ag`and now my subscription ran out
13:58.05ag`so I can't fucking renew it :D
13:58.16Gamefaqwell pizza is not good for you...;)
13:59.14ag`Pizza is very good for me
13:59.30Mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22fC7PQtMwQ
13:59.41Gamefaqto get the ass bigger :)
14:00.04ag`I can't get fat :p
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14:08.07CIA-1703tornhoof * r23728 10Yata/Options.lua:
14:08.07CIA-17Yata:
14:08.07CIA-17- Fixed Cancel bug
14:09.41CIA-1703ag * r23729 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_FrameTemplate.xml ag_UnitClass.lua):
14:09.41CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
14:09.41CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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14:11.06CIA-1703arkayenro 07v1.29 beta 2007-01-07-01-00 * r23730 10ArkInventory/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
14:11.07CIA-17ArkInventory:
14:11.07CIA-17- v1.29 beta 2007-01-07-01-00
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14:12.26DP|Vadei am sorry if this is a really stupid question. but. installing KC_items from the ace website and it wants ace and aceGUI i have installed Ace2 but whats this aceGUI ?
14:14.09Funkeh`kc_items is ace1
14:14.13Funkeh`afaik?
14:14.22Funkeh`acegui would be the gui forace1
14:14.38Josh_BorkeVade: Ace and AceGui are NOT Ace2, there are downloads for them on the website
14:14.43Funkeh`they should both be available for download
14:19.22Vadeisnt the Ace addon incompattable (sp)
14:22.06Josh_BorkeVade: download from the wowace website
14:26.00Tekkubam I smoking shit... I thought we got "proper" Blizzy-implemented MT/MA units for raids in 2.0...?
14:27.33Nickenyfikenis anything in the blizz ui proper?
14:29.24CIA-1703dafire * r23731 10TuiRaidTracker/TuiRaidTracker.lua: TuiRaidTracker: It's now possible to remove logged raids ;9
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14:38.12Tekkubright I guess I was smaoking shit
14:38.22TekkubI could swear I saw MT/MA somewhere
14:38.37CIA-1703kagaro * r23732 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: changed quest fish lookup for non english clients
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14:44.33`FM[NS]Geoffquestion regarding anyone whos familiar with AG_UF layouts: id assume id have to change values in "HealthText" and "ManaText" to center it?
14:45.20`FM[NS]Geoffor would it be "BarHealthText" and "BarManaText"
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14:52.09Eternally777Eternally777, ping.
14:52.16kagaromorning
14:52.35Eternally777G'morning.
14:52.45kagaroElkano: thanks for fixing that typo in fishing last night .. was tired and didnt notice it when i checked in and went to bed
14:53.13kagarodafire: update your cart fishing, and reset your stats db, then fishing should work correctly for you
14:53.34dafirekagaro: thanks .)
14:53.50Elkanonvm :)
14:54.25dafirekagaro: guess you've seen i changed the file to utf8 .. hope thats ok .9
14:54.39kagaroi reverted out your getreverse translation change, L[name] wasnt right either .. the quest fish list is a list of already localizaed names so it just needed questFish[name]
14:54.50kagaroyeah dafire, i forogot to set it utf-8
14:55.37kagaroQuetzi: ping
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14:58.04kagarodafire: does that fix your issue?
14:58.24dafirei can't try I'm in arathi right now ;).. I'll soon :)=
14:58.33kagarok
15:01.56dafirewtf .. someone broke babble-spell again
15:02.27kagaroQ: you there?
15:03.19dafire["Blade Twisting"] = true .. in deDE
15:03.30nevcairielstupid people
15:04.43dafirewho is omniuos ? ;9
15:06.35Eternally777We should keep a history per SVN user listing their changes in chronological order...
15:06.48Eternally777Well, maybe resortable I guess.
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15:07.11dafireat least we should have something where we can see how to contact someone :9
15:07.18Eternally777That too.
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15:10.50kagaroEternally777: svn blame is the command you want
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15:11.04Chinkudafire: is someone already fixing babble-spell deDE?
15:11.15kagaroim re-structuring cart treasure for locale switching
15:11.26Chinkuif not I could have a look at it
15:11.32dafirei can do after the bg .9
15:12.07AmadeoI can't believe how hot it is out
15:12.08dafireall locales are broken
15:12.12Amadeowhat happend to winter?
15:12.25Amadeoglobal warming? we're all gonna die?
15:12.28Amadeo:P
15:12.32Chinkuyikes, all at once, n1.
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15:18.43CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r23733 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
15:18.43CIA-17Babble-2.2:
15:18.43CIA-17- Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: locales fixed; commented out any occurence of "true" in locales other than enUS
15:19.06CIA-1703funkydude * r23734 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: fixed french locale
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15:23.19alteisenyo guys
15:23.28dafirei would revert the changes next time so the guy notice he did something wrong in the first place ;)
15:23.41alteisenhow well is flexbar2 working atm for the public server?
15:25.21CIA-1703ag * r23735 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua ag_Variables.lua):
15:25.21CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
15:25.21CIA-17<PROTECTED>
15:25.33Chinkudafire: hm, probably you're right...
15:26.48dafireI'm always in irc when i commit something to watch reactions *g*
15:26.49grollhmm ag update hmm solves my problem with not being able to target ppl in my group by clicking on them perhaps? :P
15:27.50Chinkudafire: I just decided to be here too when I commit sth
15:29.42DrZootI want to enable dragging in a frame but I want to limit the axis upon which you can drag, I want to have one handle for dragging along the x axis and one for dragging along the y, anyone know if this is possible?
15:32.31dafirekagaro: i still get Cartographer_Stats-1.0\Cartographer_Stats.lua:213: attempt to index field 'Mining' (a boolean value) on login .. i deleted the sv file
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15:33.04kagarohmmmm you shouldnt let me look at it some more
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15:34.32CIA-1703jerry * r23736 10Talented/Talented.toc: Talented - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
15:35.00Eternally777dafire: Whoever made the change obviously needs to be corrected :-P
15:35.50dafireat least changes on libs that are packed into many addons it's important to be careful with changes ,9
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15:36.10fatalblowhm
15:36.12CIA-1703ag * r23738 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: small change to events
15:36.14Chinkudafire: agreed :-)
15:36.29Chinku(hopefully I got all occurences)
15:36.43Fisker-Benumbed
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15:37.51fatalblowanyone else having a issue with newest ag_unitframe not showing combo points?
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15:40.01Eternally777I think they're hidden beneath the energy bar.
15:40.08Eternally777I've been experiencing that for a few revisions.
15:40.32ag`_fatalblow: it's fixed
15:40.41fatalblowwhich version?
15:40.50ag`_16:25
15:41.01fatalbloweh
15:41.15fatalblow16:26?
15:41.16fatalblow5*
15:41.36dafire20 minutes ago ;)
15:41.48fatalblowag_UnitFrames-r23729
15:41.49fatalblowis what i have
15:41.52fatalblowstill doesn't show combo points
15:42.26dafire23735 has some fixes
15:42.34nadasget 23738 :)
15:42.41fatalblowhow do you get 23738?
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15:43.04Fisker-in up to 20 minutes :P
15:43.14Fisker-then it can be downloaded from wowace.com/files
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15:43.15nadasit's there now
15:43.47fatalblowstill 23729
15:43.54fatalblowon the files page
15:44.20nadasguess the script isn't done running then
15:44.29nadaswowace.com/files/ag_UnitFrames :)
15:44.32nadasgo there
15:45.34fatalblowah
15:45.35fatalblowthanks
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15:46.49Feathrenhi, I have a question, i got the new aguf today, but now it doesn't show me any combopoints, what is the problem? :>
15:46.56Eternally777hahaha
15:47.01Eternally777It's been fixed.
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15:47.18Eternally777http://www.wowace.com/files/ag_UnitFrames for the latest version.
15:47.19dafireupdate again :)
15:47.32Feathrenok, thx^^
15:47.36Eternally777Np.
15:48.44fatalblowyeah
15:48.47fatalblowi just tested newest ag
15:48.51fatalblowitx fised, yay
15:48.54fatalblowits fixed*
15:49.57CIA-1703kagaro * r23739 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: added a lot of localization changes and made it mostly friendly for people switching locales
15:53.13kagarodafire im trying to replicate the error now
15:54.02dafiretell me if i can help with something ;9
15:54.58kagaroon the line you get an error put a ( ) around the not self.db.server["Mining"].initialized
15:58.13dafirei thought about adding a self.db.server["Mining"] before that .9
15:58.22dafirenot
15:58.25Chinkudafire: tested it right now, Babble-Spell seems to work at least with my deDE client
15:58.34kagaroyou shouldnt have to it gets created in the defaults
15:58.51dafiremaybe something is calling it before that ?
15:59.27dafireI'll add a few debugs .9
15:59.31dafirein my local version
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16:00.44kagaroill move the init defaults up, though i tried to replicate your set .. i have mining and wiped my mining and stats sv out and logged in
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16:01.44Quetzikagaro, whassup? :)
16:01.56dafirein the stack the error comes from TriggerEvent
16:02.01CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r23740 10DKPmon/DKPmon/ (Awarding/awardframe.lua Roster/raid.lua): DKPmon: v2.0 - Minor bug fix.
16:02.30dafirehmm.. have an idea
16:02.32kagaroQuetzi: there is a repoted problem on the website for felwood farmer
16:06.11kagarodafire: can you post your stats sv file?
16:06.25dafirewell.. OnEnable is called before InitStats
16:06.26dafireok
16:06.58dafireits very short .9
16:07.07kagaroyeah i would assume so
16:07.10dafireCartographer_StatsDB = {["currentProfile"] = {["Kendra - Eredar"] = "server",},}
16:07.13dafirethats all
16:07.23kagarook thats wrong all togther
16:07.32CIA-1703snago * r23741 10FuBar_NinjutFu/ (FuBar_NinjutFu.toc NinjutFu.lua):
16:07.32CIA-17FuBar_NinjutFu:
16:07.32CIA-17- Interface: 20000
16:07.32CIA-17- Will only autobuy Flash Powder for rogues
16:07.41kagaroupdate your cartographer to get the latest aceDB
16:08.04dafirehmm.. i have disembedded everything and updated a few mins ago
16:08.09kagarohmm hold on
16:08.16Prophyynew ver of AGUF wiped out all the old settings! WTF!
16:08.43dafirei think it's new ver of ace .9
16:09.13CIA-1703kagaro * r23742 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: moved default setup
16:09.38kagarodefaire: he is mine
16:10.38kagaroCartographer_StatsDB = {["servers"] = {["Ysera"] = {["Herbalism"] = {["initialized"] = true,["calculated"] = true,},["Mining"] = {["initialized"] = true,["calculated"] = true,},["Fishing"] = {"initialized"] = true,["calculated"] = true,},},},["currentProfile"] = {["Jjax - Ysera"] = "server",["Kagaro - Ysera"] = "server",},}
16:11.06kagaroi moved where the defaults get created try it now
16:12.04dafireok i'll get it from svn fast
16:13.27CIA-1703ag * r23743 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
16:13.27CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
16:13.27CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:13.36ag`_uh, I meant combo instead of talent. whatever.
16:14.01dafireok .. i delete the file and relog again .9
16:14.05Fisker-omg you suck ag`_
16:14.08hasteagUF, not with talent dispaly
16:14.27ag`_I don't know what I was thinking :S
16:14.39dafirekagaro: no change .9
16:14.41ag`_but it works anyway
16:14.56kagarohmm wth
16:15.08kagaroyou should have atleast a default entry for those 3 items
16:15.27kagaropastey the stack dump your getting now
16:15.45kagaroOHHH damn i see the problem
16:16.06dafirehttp://ace.pastey.net/4622
16:16.08dafire:9
16:16.15dafiresv still the same ;)
16:16.23Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/
16:16.48CIA-1703kagaro * r23744 10Cartographer_Stats/Cartographer_Stats.lua: Cartographer_Stats: fixed an error in init defaults
16:16.53Fisker-haste does mutilate require it to be your own poison?
16:17.01Wogroipldafire: is it already possible to play around with TuiRaidTracker in-game?
16:17.08Kaeltengmornin guys
16:17.19hasteFisker-: no, any poison works
16:17.23dafireWogroipl: sure
16:17.33kagarodafire are you updating from dev.wowace.com or getting from svn.wowace.com ?
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16:17.47Wogroiplalright, looking forward to it then :)
16:17.49dafirekagaro: i think i updated from dev.
16:17.59Fisker-i wonder why that guy wanted different ranks then
16:18.00Fisker-O_o
16:18.05dafireWogroipl: since i don't raid much lately it tracks groups also
16:18.09kagarook, re-update and try now i had forgotten a localization error in it
16:18.30hasteFisker-: probably as you get more damge from Deadly Poison V then Instant Poison
16:18.46WogroiplDafire: I have an ZQ20 raid tonight, if I can help with anything let me know
16:18.49Fisker-ah
16:18.54Wogroipllol AQ20
16:19.02kagarohaste: cause i know people who put deadly 5 on MH , then deadly 4 on OH to get 2 dots up
16:19.13hasteFisker-: but it's the exact same combination of mats for that poison, so I don't really see a need for it
16:19.16hastekagaro: not in this scenario
16:19.28dafireWogroipl: you could get me the export string after the run if it worked ,9
16:19.30grzesieqhmm
16:19.35hastekagaro: it was in raid situation where they rolled for who could use the highest rank
16:19.41dafirekagaro: error is gone
16:19.43kagarohaste: ohh
16:19.44grzesieqis there any way to get from hellfire to IF quick? :>
16:19.47hastekagaro: it was an argument for why I shouldn't have removed rank support in Atropine
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16:19.55WogroiplDafire: sure, glad to help :)
16:19.56kagarodafire: good
16:20.21sbuhmmm
16:20.42hastegrzesieq: Shattrath -> town portal?
16:20.47dafirei guess i'll to a eqdkp plugin.. i thougt about writing own dkp list scripts but i guess we'll stick with eqdkp
16:22.37hasteI'm writing a DKP system for my guild
16:22.50TainCool short article about Bill Joy talking about writing vi.  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/09/11/bill_joys_greatest_gift/
16:23.35CIA-1703ag * r23745 10ag_UnitFrames/layouts/ABF.lua:
16:23.35CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
16:23.35CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:25.02kagaroq: You may want to change your cart integration to set the icon names in english, people out there switch locales and I think thats why they sw ? icons
16:25.16CIA-1703dafire * r23746 10TuiRaidTracker/ (TuiRaidTracker.lua export.lua): TuiRaidTracker: Removing the currenty tracking raid is not good.
16:25.39kagarohaste: yes
16:25.41ag`_Mikma: what is dongle
16:25.53kagaronm i m still semi asleep
16:26.10dafiredongle is a simplistic ace replacement i think .9
16:26.36Mikmavery minimal library
16:27.51ag`what's simple about it?
16:28.30ag`it's just like AceEvent, AceAddon, AceDB in one file, but with less methods?
16:29.01WogroiplI think Cladhaire uses it in clique and Perfectraid
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16:29.20hasteAnyone happen to know of a small friendsnote addon? I'm really not in the mood to write my own :(
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16:30.06CIA-1703aileen 07Aileen * r23747 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/: Created folder remotely
16:30.07Quetzikagaro, I'm using localised icon names atm.  Think the people that see ? icons most likely have old notes set using the old icon names
16:30.54kagaromost likely they switched locales .. so in the SV file it save "localized frend songflower"  now they switched to enlgish so icon can be found
16:31.07sbuhaste: hmm dkp system...
16:31.14sbuingame or webpage?
16:31.33kagaroi changed treasure to save english name for icons, then localize it when at runtime
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16:32.28Fisker-bah
16:33.08Fisker-i don't know if i should go for dual HWL daggers to try out mutilate or just buy some hwl armor :(
16:33.11hastesbu: both, I will most likely not release it outisde the guild tho', as it will be very much based for our own system
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16:33.23hastesbu: we run different system for different instance types
16:33.41hastesbu: which means we end up running 3+ eqDKP sites
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16:34.06sbusame here
16:34.07sbuits 2+
16:34.11hasteI had to change how the eqDKP db worked to not kill the SQL server with requests
16:34.18SarozI'm so sick of my SVN updates failing
16:34.26sbuone for aq20/zg/mc/... and one for bwl/naxx/etc.
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16:34.28sbuwith different ppl
16:34.35hasteso I ended up raping eqDKP for a while,b efore I decided it was better to just start from scratch
16:34.46sbuhmm
16:34.54hasteI'm integrating it into PunBB also
16:34.57sbuWTB permissions system to allow users to sign up for raid-type :p
16:35.18sbue.g. someone is allowed to sigh up to AQ20 but not AQ40
16:35.21sbudepending on some group setting
16:35.22sbu:)
16:35.37sbuerrr and - if you need some help...
16:35.41sbui think i know some php ;)
16:37.41dafirei was integrating mine into vbulletin .. it has a nice plugin system
16:38.13ag`haste: you could take a look at nDKP
16:38.19ag`it seems pretty good
16:38.36hastedoes it allow 3+ different DKP systems tho'?
16:38.57dafirewe thougt about zerodkp but it's not working for our guild size
16:40.11dafireif old player only pay update prices new player won't gain much dkp, but they have to pay more... old players getting more dkp from new players but have to spent less
16:40.15dafirei don't like it
16:41.56[Cu]Werikreset your dkp table when a new instance comes out or, create separate one for each instance
16:41.57Wogroiplwe use zero sum dkp, but not different dkp for upgrades
16:42.14KarlThePagan<-- non-dkp
16:42.57KarlThePaganloot council advised by attendance points and loot : attendance ratio
16:43.04dafirewe will give dkp for boss kills or for time on new bosses... dkp will decay after some month if they are not spent to prevent stockpiling... we won't use dkp on set-pieces anymore
16:43.39CIA-1703ominous * r23748 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Bars/Stuns.lua Core.lua RuleSet.lua):
16:43.39CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
16:43.39CIA-17- Removed AR from stuns oops
16:43.39CIA-17- Re-applications of Find Weakness work now
16:43.43dafirewe will use KarlThePagan system on set items and dkp on other stuff
16:44.03ag`haste: it's a complete system that takes care of multiple instances
16:44.11TainEveryone uses a slightly different implementation, that's why it's hard to have a single addon solution.
16:44.14KarlThePaganwe have had issues with items like asscandy
16:44.19KarlThePagan;)
16:44.29[Cu]Werikor just forget about dkp systems. they only cause hate
16:44.33hasteag`: I'm guessing the n is for nurfed?
16:44.40dafirewe had palas bidding on crit rings and stuff like that ;)
16:44.42ag`haste: yeah
16:44.53KarlThePaganfirst one went to war with slightly worse ratio... because he was getting a much better upgrade
16:44.55Kaeltenwatching a ./configure is ... hypnotizing
16:45.03KarlThePaganif that didn't cause a lot of drama... but yea
16:45.35TainOnly poorly designed dkp systems cause problems.
16:45.37hasteag`: the demo doesn't work :-P
16:45.50KarlThePagandafire, will you kill a priest if they get their dps set pieces? hehe
16:45.51TainThe same as a poor "loot council" system.
16:45.57_neuron_any dkp system where the rules are open for interpretation cause problems :P
16:46.28dafireKarlThePagan: i guess we will give deftanks and healpriests their set before the others.. .)
16:46.35KarlThePaganheh
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16:47.29TainOne of the last straws for me in my last guild was a dkp system was put in, non-zero-sum, without any plans for dkp "decay" despite the fact that I yelled loud and hard from day 1 of the guild that they needed to factor it in and was told it wasn't an issue.
16:47.38KarlThePaganKemayo, ping
16:47.56Tainso when people started getting more and more points, through no fault of their own, there was a sudden panic.
16:48.03KarlThePaganlol
16:48.12kenlyric|homepanic?
16:48.15kenlyric|homeit's just dkp.'
16:48.25[Cu]WerikIn my old guild warlocks and mages had 1000k dkp while hybrids had -1000 dkp
16:48.30kenlyric|homeI find dkp decay is less of an issue if you seperate out instances.
16:48.33TainAnd the guild leader decided the only fair way to handle it was to subtract 5 points from everyone, across the board, regardless of raid attendance, points earned, spent, current points, anything.
16:48.33_neuron_unfortunate fact that a lot of people play only to get themselfes gear :/
16:48.51KarlThePagan^^ why we're loot council
16:49.00TainHis reasoning was that since he was subracting the same amont from everyone it was fair.
16:49.26TainLoot council is fine, but inherently flawed because people are inherently flawed.  
16:49.33_neuron_<Tain> Loot council is fine, but inherently flawed because people are inherently flawed.   <-- exactly
16:49.41TainWhich doesn't mean it shouldn't be used, but it isn't any better than anything else.
16:49.49KarlThePagan;) yup
16:49.53_neuron_this game, the mods made and dkp systems would all be brilliant if it wasn't for the people using it.
16:50.00KarlThePaganthere is drama but imo not much more drama than dkp causes
16:50.19TainNo, a good dkp system doesn't have any room for drama.
16:50.21KarlThePaganno way to prevent the "MT spent all his dkp on asscandy and /gquit"
16:50.22TainIt's all hard numbers.
16:50.28kenlyric|homeI wouldn't expect more drama. Just seems like a lot more work, deciding where stuff goes after every boss.
16:50.43TainNo way to prevent, "We awareded MT asscandy and he /gquit"
16:50.52_neuron_it's incredibly hard to make it fair though, and even if it really is fair someone will feel left out/treated badly.
16:51.06TainBeing fair doesn't mean everyone is happy.
16:51.08kenlyric|homeTain: it does when people take stuff that can is vastly superior in the hands of someone else.
16:51.10TainIt means it is fair.
16:51.20KarlThePagantain sure there is... the council members say "is this guy gonna stick with us? he's bidding against his role etc etc"
16:51.22kenlyric|homeMy last guild, the caster cloak from Nef went to a druid, pally, and pally.
16:51.33_neuron_kenlyric|home, yeah but at the same time our tanks never ever got any weapons (we got few weapon drops), and they got a tad bit tired of it.
16:51.35TainThat's absurd, KarlThePagan.
16:51.39KarlThePaganit works
16:51.45TainYou have no way to know whether or not someone is going to decide and quit.
16:51.57KarlThePaganif you say so
16:52.03_neuron_Tain, you can have some idea if you know your members well
16:52.03TainAre you serious?
16:52.05FryGuyi've concluded there is no fair way to distribute loot, only more and less fair ways of doing it.
16:52.38KarlThePaganthere's incredably huge portions of the human brain devoted to the interpretation of human intention
16:52.38KarlThePaganit's a cornerstone of modern drama
16:52.38TainAll of which are human, and not 100% accurate.
16:52.39KarlThePaganno it's not an exact science
16:52.40FryGuyand people who are bad at math running dkp systems is almost always going to net a less fair way :p
16:52.40_neuron_Tain, 100% no, but you can make a fairly educated guess
16:52.42TainIf you think someone is going to quit the guild then you shouldn't allow him there in the first place.
16:52.49TainThat has nothing to do with what loot system is in place.
16:52.58kenlyric|homeFryGuy: Well, dkp is a fair way, It just isn't always in the best interest of the raid as a whole.
16:53.08TainTo say that a loot council has an advantage in determining whether or not someone is going to take loot and run over any other system is assinine.
16:53.11FryGuyeh
16:53.14FryGuybut you can game dkp
16:53.24_neuron_dkp systems has to be built around the size of the guild though.. if you have 45 people stable doing 40man instances that's a whole different thing than zerg guilds.
16:53.27FryGuymost of the time at least
16:53.33kenlyric|homeFryGuy: Well, /roll is a fair way, etc. :)
16:53.38FryGuyyes, it is :)
16:53.38KarlThePaganyou hyperbole is killing an otherwise productive conversation tain
16:53.44KarlThePaganso i'm gonna return to my code
16:53.45TainIt is not hyperbole.
16:53.47_neuron_smaller guild = loot council will know their members better = will work, huge guild = .. doubt it :p
16:53.57TainYou said you can tell if someone is going to quit and you don't award them loot.
16:54.15_neuron_well that's chicken and the egg, if you dont give them loot they might leave because of that :P
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16:54.23TainThat's a different issue, neruon.
16:54.46[Cu]WerikYou have no right to deny loot from someone just because he will leave imho..
16:54.49_neuron_heh, we had it another way "we have to bribe her with something, or she'll quit" :p
16:54.54kenlyric|homemy kingdom for a decent pvp reward page.
16:55.13_neuron_[Cu]Werik, no, but you can decide loot priority based on it
16:55.13Tainehn I sort of agree [Cu]Werik but it's a grey area.
16:55.23[Cu]Werikits while and clear
16:55.28[Cu]Werikhe was there, helped to kill the boss
16:55.34TainI think people should be rewarded for their past performance, but part of being part of a guild is also the future.
16:55.35[Cu]Werikhe deserves it as much as anyone else
16:55.57_neuron_well, that depends, we distibuted loot based on guild progress, ie priority on MT loot etc
16:55.59TainYou can't build a guild around only what you've done in the past, you also have to be able to build towards what you're going to do.
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16:56.10_neuron_so we would prioritize members we knew would stay with the guild
16:56.21[Cu]Werikthats not a good way
16:56.23TainHowever, I don't think it's flat out wrong to deny someone loot because you suspect he's going to leave.
16:56.33Tainerr no wait
16:56.35TainI worded that wrong.
16:56.45CIA-1703ominous * r23750 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
16:56.45CIA-17Babble-2.2:
16:56.45CIA-17-Added Master of Subtlety + icon
16:57.37CIA-1703quetz * r23751 10FelwoodFarmer/FelwoodFarmer.lua:
16:57.37CIA-17FelwoodFarmer:
16:57.37CIA-17- added slash commands /fwf and /felwoodfarmer
16:57.37CIA-17- Fix Cartographer icon names. If you still have ? icons delete the notes and reload your UI
16:57.39TainAnyway unless someone tells you, "I'm leaving the guild after I loot this next item." it's all conjecture.
16:58.30[Cu]WerikIn my opinion, even if s/he says so... s/he deserves the loot
16:58.58_neuron_it is better to reward for the honesty, rather than people ninja'ing and gquit'ing ;)
16:59.02[Cu]WerikIt's not like s/he didnt work for it
16:59.26TainI understand that view, and if it were a 5 man group I agree 100%.
16:59.30QuetziWell different things work for different guilds
16:59.42[Cu]Werikwho are people to say I'm > you
16:59.48kagaroq: I made cart treasure fix db names for old data, so if they have cart treasure it should fix the names up
16:59.52TainI simply think it is a little different in a guild.  Not to say I disagree with you 100%, but I dont' see it as black and white.
17:00.00Chinku_ominous: you broke babble-spell again. please fix it.
17:00.02Quetzikagaro, ok cool
17:00.10TainThat's where you're making the wrong conclusion, [Cu]Werik.  IT isn't saying one person is better than another.
17:00.25TainIT is saying one person makes the health of the guild better than one who leaves.
17:00.48TainI know most people don't care, but a good guild is more than just a person.
17:00.53Chinku_ominous: entries like ["spell name"] = true, are not allowed in any locale section except enUS
17:01.04[Cu]WerikA good guild is built from people
17:01.12TainReally?
17:01.21[Cu]Werikand maybe, without that guy/girl, you would have never killed that boss and never got that loot
17:01.26FryGuya good snowman is built from snow :)
17:01.33TainNah, no one person is that important.
17:01.43[Cu]WerikNo?
17:01.45TainNope.
17:01.48_neuron_[Cu]Werik, lets say that person has been semi afk on follow through the entire instance then.
17:02.04TainAnd any person who thinks they are that important is detrimental to the guild.
17:02.07_neuron_and as a result of that might be kicked, but he/she has worked up a lot of dkp from doing it
17:02.42[Cu]WerikI can wipe any top end guild with one keypress maybe two. Am I important then or not?
17:02.58Quetziwell, a good dkp system is useless if your guild doesn't think its fair...whats fair will vary depending on the mix of people you have
17:03.12TainNo, you're an asshole.
17:03.15TainThere's a difference.
17:03.20_neuron_hehe
17:03.23[Cu]Werikbesised that, I can make a difference;)
17:03.27[Cu]Werikbesides*
17:03.28TainThat's not what you said.
17:03.35TainYou said a specific person is important.
17:03.36KarlThePaganlol i peek back in the channel and this is what i see
17:03.59TainI say no specific person is important, generic person number 2 will fill in.
17:04.16[Cu]WerikAnd if we are speaking in general, then you can say that for every people, that s/he is not that important. and then you are raiding alone
17:04.28TainRight, because that's exactly what I said.
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17:05.21CIA-1703chinkuwaila * r23752 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
17:05.21CIA-17Babble-2.2:
17:05.21CIA-17- Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: locales fixed; commented out any occurence of "true" in locales other than enUS
17:05.21CIA-17- typo in deDE section fixed
17:05.31[Cu]WerikThe point is. S/he worked just as much for that item as anyone else in that raid. And if s/he has the dkp or whatever for that last item, who are people to deny it from him/her
17:05.53[Cu]WerikThese are my 2 cents:)
17:05.53KarlThePaganTip: Sarcasm doesn't convince your audience.
17:06.08TainEvidently neither does logic!
17:06.22Fisker-so where's my hyperactivechipmunk?
17:07.13KarlThePaganso Tourist
17:07.33KarlThePaganit's green/grey coloring isn't based on WoW API: GetQuestGreenRange()
17:07.36KarlThePaganperhaps it should be
17:08.57Fisker-~seen hyperactivechipmunk
17:09.26purli haven't seen 'hyperactivechipmunk', Fisker-
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17:11.08FryGuyis anyone here familiar with the quest api?
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17:12.08FryGuyer wait i see that quioxte is a library for them
17:12.12FryGuythe wow api is really confusing :(
17:13.43Wogroipldafire: I'm in a UBRS raid now, want me to get that string to you as well?
17:14.17dafireyou could post it to me if you want :)
17:14.45dafireper pastey perhaps :)
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17:14.56Wogroiplsure :)
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17:16.01[1]Ominouswhat is broken on it?
17:16.44KarlThePagan~seen Kemayo
17:17.07purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (5d 14h 51m 14s) #wowace (5d 14h 51m 14s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 9h 41m 9s, last said: 'Industrial:  I seem to remember it taking longer than that when doing all quests as a human.'.
17:17.08dafireOminous: when you add ["blah"] = true to any other language but enUS the whole lib will break .9
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17:22.10CIA-1703ominous * r23754 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
17:22.10CIA-17Babble-2.2:
17:22.10CIA-17-Fixed Babble-Spell Bug, sorry now i know
17:22.21hasteDoes anyone happen to have a link to the site with syntax comparison between different languages?
17:23.14CaerworkIs anyone having an issue with the 'show grid' not always showing the grid of buttons on Bartender3?
17:23.15hasteoh hey, my bookmark works agian :D
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17:25.21Munrealhiho, anyone here who is into bartender
17:25.37CIA-1703jerry * r23756 10Talented/ (Talented.toc core.lua editmode.lua ui.lua viewmode.lua):
17:25.37CIA-17Talented:
17:25.37CIA-17_ Reworked the mode menu. Much better now.
17:25.37CIA-17_ Added confirmation request for "delete" and "apply".
17:25.37CIA-17_ Can now edit current template (behaves like original version).
17:25.40CIA-17_ Can now import a template from the Blizzard talent calculator.
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17:32.22Munrealnevcairiel: Are you there?
17:32.38MrBangleHi all. I have a question regarding BT3. I assigned Mouse Button 4 and Mouse Button 5 to TARGET NEAREST ENEMY and TARGET NEAREST FRIEND. Is it normal that, when I have mouse-hand cursor on one button of bartender 3, every mouse button I press, the only action done is the action binded to that button ? Is there a way to bypass this behaviour ? Thanks.
17:33.59Ominousok
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17:34.10GamefaqKemayo: are you around?
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17:35.22GamefaqKemayo: ping
17:36.04MunrealHi all. I have a Problem with my Bartender3. I am a ShadowPriest, so I use the Shapeshift function. Its changing ActionBar1 (with healingspells) to ActionBar2 (Damagespells). But when I'm pressing the 1-key for casting Mindblast, it tries to cast a flashheal. How can I solve this problem.
17:36.38beerkelooks like keybinding problem :)
17:37.40Munrealbeerke: yes but i can't solve it :)
17:37.54beerkeWild guess, but did you actually set keybindings on the main bar ?
17:38.08beerkethe bartender keybindings, not blizz default ones
17:38.30kenlyric|homeit doesn't use the default bindings when it switches?
17:38.34Munrealhmmm, didn't know bartender has extra keybindings
17:38.49beerkecheck keybindings when you press esc
17:38.51Munrealone moment pls i'm switching into game
17:39.10beerkeand see if you have keybindings for BT3 bars
17:39.18packetlssif you mouse over a button, that buttons actions overrides if you have another button mapped to a mousebutton
17:39.54Munrealomfg i'm feeling so stupid
17:40.34MunrealThank you ver very much!
17:41.57Chinkubeerke: KotJ obviously assumes every pet as male - don't you think the error messages should be neutral? ;-)
17:42.25beerkeChinku, don't worry too much, big overhaul coming up soon :)
17:42.51Chinkubeerke: i have to as the current version seems to be broken again somewhere in the locals
17:43.00beerkeow could be :)
17:43.07beerkeI am changing locales still
17:43.09Munrealand do you know if Bartender3 has something like "Sticky Bars"?
17:43.20beerkeSVN version could be borked for non english clients
17:43.39Munrealso that the actionbars stick togehter if you pull them nearby?
17:43.46beerkenope
17:43.58beerkeafaik it doesn't have that
17:44.00Chinkubeerke: the guild mates i recommended it to are whining about it not working smoothly at all :-)
17:44.14Munreali thank you for your time!
17:44.15beerkewhining is good, what is not working then ?
17:44.18Munrealhave a nice day
17:44.27Munrealbye
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17:45.00Chinkuwe shall see what it is, I got an error message about GetReverseTranslation() somewhere in deDE
17:45.14beerkeA german client
17:45.19Chinkuyes
17:45.30beerkeget english locale, and see what is missing in german locale
17:45.41beerkeand add it to german locale and it should work :)
17:46.12beerkelatest version on wowinterface should work normally though
17:46.13Chinkuam doing exactly that right now, just wanted to ask if you are finished with you changes in the locals files
17:46.24beerkeNo, i am not finished
17:46.42Chinkuok. i'll wait then
17:47.59beerkeJust splitting up FOod DB for more usefull features later on
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17:48.42Chinkuah, I see.
17:49.07beerkeAnd some minor crap of setting width of a dropdown menu :)
17:53.32Tornhoofsaroz ping
17:55.55DeviadCan anyone pls tell me why Detox's frame disappears and how to make it reappear?
17:56.08Deviadhello
17:56.09beerke./detox ?
17:56.26DeviadI see the icon on fubar
17:56.35Deviadbut I don't see the icon with my name on the screen anymore
17:56.43Deviadit disppeared during the game session
17:57.00ChinkuDeviad: have you tried re-activating the live list via the fubar menu?
17:57.07Deviadyes
17:57.12Chinkuwon't work?
17:57.22Deviadno
17:57.22Deviad:\
17:57.45DeviadIs it a bug?
17:57.46Chinkuups. strange. no idea then, except trying to delete the sv file, sorry.
17:58.27Ominoushmm is 20003 still out of date on release?
18:14.35BarbanussRaidFrames, I cant make the fubar plugin position right, there is no option for it .. unless I am totally blind...
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18:17.30AnduneBarbanus: I seem to recall they have it hidden in a sub-menu
18:17.57Anduneat least, one of my mods did, I think it was sRaidFrames.  little out of the ordinary, took me a bit to find it too.
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18:19.42neeneeHm. Was something changed about ag_Unitframes to set them to the default position>
18:20.07BarbanusSome have it hidden in a menu called "Fubar Plugins Settings" but no dice here..
18:21.33kenlyric|homeneenee: Yes, the way in which the positions is stored was changed.
18:21.43kenlyric|homeso you'll have to move them again to where you want them.
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18:23.07kagarowhats the name of the texture library ?
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18:23.40Tornhoofsurface?
18:23.44kagarothanks
18:23.50Fisker-so how does talented work with setting talents?
18:24.02Fisker-Can you just setup all 51 talents and then it selects all for you?
18:24.21Tornhoofsurface is for the statusbar textures, otherwise i dunno
18:24.37neeneekenlyric|home: okidoki
18:24.55kagaroworks i was seeing if someone figured out how to iterrate a directory from in game to get a list .. since io isnt available
18:26.05kagarounless someone know how that is, I didnt think it was possible
18:28.30CodayusHmmm, wow, kartu on the forums seems to be trying some sort of quest to see how many people he can piss off in the shortest period of time...
18:29.24Tornhoofyou can't kagaro, i don't think its possible
18:29.31kagaroyeah i thought so
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18:37.01Fisker-Is bars on ag_UF also pulsing for you others?
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18:41.04Ominousoh, sorry about that nick spam, forgot i was in the channel, was setting up registerd nicknames properly
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18:42.39CIA-1703aileen 07Aileen * r23760 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu/: Copied remotely
18:43.14CIA-1703kagaro * r23761 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer/ModulesNotes: added support for icon remapping
18:44.37kagarowell there is basic support now in cart to remap an icon if you dont like a particular one
18:45.13Kaeltenwow people are stupid
18:45.28MikmaKaelten: yes we are
18:46.41fatalblowhmm
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18:46.43fatalblowwith newest ag
18:46.50fatalblowyou get an error when you leave aerna
18:46.51fatalblowarena*
18:46.58CIA-1703beerke * r23762 10KingOfTheJungle/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
18:46.58CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
18:46.58CIA-17- Reworked Food Database to allow for future sorting based on food sets, pet diets and individual food items (please do a /kotj resetdb to allow changes to take place)
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18:50.22kagaroguess ill do a icon manager for cart this weekend
18:50.51NimbalI hate it when bugs seem to just vanish after I put some debug code in. Cowardly bastards.
18:51.05Ominous:D
18:52.02CodayusSilly question, but can you have a /command, but no options?  ie, have an epty AceOptions table?
18:53.44NimbalCodayus: Yes, just omit the table argument in RegisterChatCommand
18:54.15CodayusBut that didn't work when I tried it...
18:54.20Codayus.....because I mispelled my slash command.
18:54.22Codayus....
18:54.27NimbalRegisterChatCommand("MyAddon") suffices, the rest is optional
18:54.29Nimbal:-)
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18:54.41KaeltenMikma: I found the "sane bag addon" post
18:54.47Kaeltenguys talking out of his ass
18:54.49CodayusSome days, I don't think I'm cut out to be a programmer.  I need to find a simpler hobby.
18:54.52CodayusKaelten: Great eh?
18:54.56CIA-1703kagaro * r23763 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer/ModulesNotes: arg check for overriding
18:55.08Kaeltenwell I'm getting a post ready with numbers and statistics... and information... and facts...
18:55.16Kaeltenand non assspeak
18:55.20MikmaKaelten: what post? :)
18:55.29NimbalYeash, that thread made me wish for an ignore button like in the Blizzard forums
18:55.54KaeltenMikma http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3972.40
18:56.03CodayusKaelten: Probably not worth it, he's GOTTA be a troll.  Well, I hope he's a troll.  If he's actually serious, my faith in mankind is about to take a beating.
18:56.24Kaeltenwell I'm making it more for other people than him
18:56.30CodayusYeah
18:56.34SoLoRits entrataining at least
18:56.37SoLoR!
18:56.42Kaeltensince someone out there is going to take his logic seriously
18:56.42CodayusFair enough.
18:56.52CodayusI'm afraid your right, at that.
18:58.23CIA-1703kagaro * r23764 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer/ModulesNotes: removed extra table
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18:58.28MikmaKaelten: nice posts there :D
18:58.36ag`hmm
18:58.40ag`kan strings register events?
18:58.48DeviadI lost the settings in ag_uf
18:59.00Deviadhow do I remove the xp bar?
18:59.16DeviadI don't see the black background but I can still see the white xp bar
18:59.31Deviadif I move the  frame the bar remains there
18:59.44Deviadit does not follow the frame, I just want to remove the bar
19:00.47CodayusHmm, what do you do to get a standby command?
19:01.13Deviad:P
19:01.17Wogroipldafire: ping
19:01.21Deviad/reloadui worked
19:02.35Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/MiniBar/MiniBar.jpg
19:03.08ag`Mikma: but will it page if I hold down shift? :P
19:03.30Mikmaag`: yes, uses the pages you can use with default blizzard bars
19:03.39CIA-1703gagorian * r23765 10DrDamage/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
19:03.39CIA-17DrDamage:
19:03.39CIA-17-Added Ice Lance and Arcane Blast. Adjusted druid HT/Regrowth/Rejuvenation. Fixed some priest talents. Small efficiency improvements.
19:03.43ag`not sure blizzard allows for that :(
19:03.54Mikmawell test it and see for yourself
19:04.56KarlThePaganmultiple headers in dewdrop don't respect order :P
19:05.47Benumbedyeah noticed that
19:05.50KarlThePaganor something like that... hmm
19:06.04BenumbedI had to do blank, blanktwo
19:06.11KarlThePagan2 of em eh?
19:06.34CodayusFor the curious - you get a standby command if you mixing AceDB.  Makes sense I guess.
19:06.34KarlThePaganwell I tried 1,2,3,11,12,13 but it's still funny
19:06.37kenlyric|homeuh.
19:06.41kenlyric|homeerr, ug.
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19:07.13KarlThePaganso CLOSE
19:07.17Benumbedstill havent figured out way to hide the header title generated from fubar =x
19:07.24KarlThePagancan't
19:07.31Benumbedyeah figured that much
19:07.33Benumbedsucks
19:07.33KarlThePagani have to set headers to nil when i wanna hide em
19:08.03Benumbeddo you know what the name of is called?
19:08.03[Ammo]Benumbed: check BigWigs, we hide the BigWigs title from the menu
19:08.14Benumbedhmm, k
19:08.21KarlThePaganoh oh i see what you're talkin about
19:08.22Adirell1question about AceModuleCore : if I create an MyAddon.modulePrototype:OnInitialize method, will it be called, or should I just use OnEnable ?
19:08.29KarlThePaganyea I haven't played with that
19:08.48KarlThePaganAdirell1, i think we're supposed to use both
19:08.55TularSaroz: hey dude, you around?
19:09.04Benumbedif I could find what its called, maybe I could name my header title the same and hope mine overwrites it
19:09.07kenlyric|homeso, when I page from bar 1 to bar 6, my keybindings no longer work?
19:09.09Benumbedbut checking bigwigs
19:09.10Adirell1KarlThePagan : in fact I'm not sure OnInitalize is called for module
19:09.30KarlThePaganinteresting
19:09.35[Ammo]it is called
19:09.40[Ammo]ofcours it is
19:09.46[Ammo]AceModule's are just like AceAddons
19:10.00KarlThePaganwell i know my addon's init is working but i haven't used modules yet
19:10.12KarlThePagani need to distinguish between disable and suspend
19:10.18Benumbedmy modules init's are called
19:14.44Benumbedhmm, BigWigsOptions.hideMenuTitle = true...could have swore I tried that already..will see again =x
19:15.14Adirell1[Ammo] I'll suppose it is, but I can't guess how when I try to read the AceLibrary code
19:15.19snurre-hm, honorfu bugged? shows 14 honor gained after 5 AVs o.O
19:15.34Thorgardsnurre-, that just means you're not very good at PvPing. ;P
19:15.43snurre-:p
19:15.51snurre-im playing hunter atm, dont have to be good
19:16.15Fisker-oh no
19:16.19Fisker-Realm splitting technology
19:16.26Fisker-i'm gonna rape blizzard if they even go near my realm
19:16.29Adirell1~x fr en retourner la tête
19:16.33ThorgardFisker-, que?
19:16.57Adirell1purl, not sure that's the translate I wanted :)
19:17.12SarozTuller
19:17.18Sarozdoh
19:17.20Tullerhrm?
19:17.23Saroz10 seconds too late
19:17.23Fisker-Thorgard they just started testing a technology which allows them to turn 1 realm into 2
19:17.37Tullernow I'm more confused
19:17.45SarozTuller, sry, was auto complete for Tular
19:17.55Tullerah
19:18.04ThorgardFisker-. :o where are you readin about this?
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19:21.22*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everyone should get !BugGrabber and BugSack | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips | It's time we moved away from "Get everyone using Ace" to "Give Ace to everyone"
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19:23.39grzesieqMikma: wtb petbar for minibar :>
19:24.46Mikmagrzesieq: well the latest code i have does actually have petbar but not in mini-form
19:25.04CIA-1703aileen 07Aileen * r23766 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
19:25.04CIA-17FuBar_TopScoreFu: (branch version) I got tired of Arcane Shot ruining my
19:25.04CIA-17records. :-) Should ignore vulnerable bosses (Ossirian, Chromaggus, Vael,
19:25.04CIA-17Thaddius, Deathknight Understudy) as well as Death Talon Wyrmguard/Overseer
19:25.04CIA-17(latter 2 only for English, German, French)
19:25.35`-FISKER_Q\test?
19:25.35BenumbedKarlThePagan, what header you talking about? the one that i am talking about is the one at very top that fubar puts there (name of mod from toc)
19:26.25KarlThePaganoh guh... yea
19:26.35KarlThePaganthe thing you said "yea i noticed that"
19:26.49Benumbedits annoying =x
19:26.51KarlThePaganstill nothin on the fubar header :/
19:27.00Benumbedit comes from the toc title
19:27.03Benumbedfigured that out
19:32.02CIA-1703Tristan * r23767 10ChatHighlighter/ (. ChatHighlighter.lua ChatHighlighter.toc):
19:32.02CIA-17ChatHighlighter:
19:32.02CIA-17- Initial Commit
19:32.55ckknighthey all
19:33.23ThorgardYoes, ckknight.
19:33.41`-FISKER_Q\i'm wondering ckknight
19:33.55ckknighthrm?
19:34.01`-FISKER_Q\with Instanceloot, the dewdrop usually caps of far away from the bottom of the map
19:34.07Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3972.new#new
19:34.14Kaeltenanyone interested in some One* memory stats
19:34.15ThorgardMiles|zzz, wake up and save barfader! :o
19:34.25ckknight`-FISKER_Q\: that's not Dewdrop
19:34.26CIA-1703Tristan * r23768 10ChatHighlighter/:
19:34.26CIA-17ChatHighlighter:
19:34.26CIA-17- Externals set
19:34.28ckknightbrb
19:34.35alteisenyo, is flexbar2 working well with the current patch?
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19:35.25MimesisOk so im curious, why the change from Character of Realm to Character - Realm
19:35.39CIA-1703codayus * r23769 10PriceTag/ (. PriceTag.toc core.lua):
19:35.39CIA-17PriceTag:
19:35.39CIA-17- PriceTag:
19:35.39CIA-17- Updated to use the new Links API.
19:35.39CIA-17- Added ability to enable/disable the mod.
19:35.39CIA-17- Updated externals.
19:35.42KaeltenMimesis: not sure, but it broke OneView for the time being :(
19:36.08MimesisSeems rather pointless change, unless im missing something, and ya it reset some of my settings
19:36.13vinauras far as i heard, it's more compatible with different locales
19:36.23CodayusDamnit, I messed up that commit message.  "PriceTag: - PriceTag:"?  oO
19:36.27vinaurof can be translated....- can't
19:36.39CodayusMimesis: It's because the "of" part is different in different locales.
19:37.20_neuron_anyone having issues with performance with cartographer? I'm getting a huge fps drop showing (only some) zones I'm not in.  If I fly to the zone it's fine though.
19:37.32DeviadI'm getting a load of errors which concern ag uf
19:37.34Mimesishrm
19:37.37Deviadare you getting them too?
19:38.44Mimesisgod this is terrible
19:38.52CIA-1703codayus * r23770 10Links/Links.lua:
19:38.52CIA-17Links:
19:38.52CIA-17<PROTECTED>
19:39.00Mimesismain reason i backup my wtf folder is so i dont have to redo addon setup
19:39.07kagarowho is real familiar with ModuleCore?
19:39.23CIA-1703Tristan * r23771 10ChatHighlighter/ChatHighlighter.lua:
19:39.23CIA-17ChatHighlighter:
19:39.23CIA-17- Was an unnecessary registered event left in the code ;)
19:40.28kagarothe question I have is this: When AceModuleEnabled is called how can I tell for what addon the module is for ?
19:40.36kagaroerr the event is fired
19:41.25kagaroi can just check to see if it parented to the addon right?
19:44.06Benumbed[Ammo], thats for showing me the seperate fubar menu trick =P
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19:46.10CIA-1703Tristan * r23772 10ChatHighlighter/ChatHighlighter.toc:
19:46.10CIA-17ChatHighlighter:
19:46.10CIA-17- .toc spelling error corrected
19:49.10DeviadHow do I switch to a previous version of a mod which gives errors?
19:50.32Deviadag_uf generates errors with drewdroplibs
19:50.50kenlyric|homejust get a bugsack and ignore the errors :)
19:51.03CIA-1703jncl * r23773 10Skinner/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned RaBuffs, EquipCompare (again); Support for XPerl (Thanks to ElykNosrac), Links & Talented (Thanks to SoLoR); Added option for Tooltip StatusBar glazing
19:52.53CIA-1703ammo * r23774 10BigWigs/Plugins/TargetMonitor.lua: BigWigs: set monitoring flag to nil in onenable.
19:53.10DeviadI'm using bugsuck infact
19:53.25DeviadI just get fatality all the time :|
19:54.01BarbanusMute it
19:56.36MimesisGOD, how come this of to - change wasnt seemless
19:57.16DeviadI have problems even in game
19:57.24Deviadwhen I switch between different layouts
20:00.39Industrialwhere do I make an official complaint? :P
20:01.05ag`_Industrial: about what? :P
20:02.26Industrialthe ripped castingbar
20:02.58Industrialhttp://wowace.com/files/CBRipoff/CBRipoff-r23560.zip
20:03.28IndustrialI dont think thats appropriate
20:03.34Industrialand should be removed
20:03.57Mimesisok i think i finally have all my addons using the right profiles
20:04.11Benumbed[Ammo] dont see how bigwigs hid the title, did exactly what it did, and my header is below the generated one
20:04.22Mimesissomehow this required me to edit my sv files in notepad
20:04.27ag`_Industrial: Rabbit, who uploaded it, asked for permission from haste
20:05.09Industrialits still idiotic.
20:05.33Sarozwtf is target  monitor
20:05.51IndustrialI mean why cater lazy users?
20:06.02Mikmahmm.
20:06.09Mikmai kinda lost my idea for MiniBar :P
20:06.49ag`_Mmm what's the lightest way to check if a table is empty?
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20:07.24LLoydBatesfirst data in table = nil? ;P
20:07.25trhag`_: getn()
20:07.57Industrialt=={} ? I dunno :)
20:08.17trhgetn is cheap as long as the table doesnt get too big =)
20:08.26ag`_Industrial: I figured, but I don't know if a table with keys = nil is == {}
20:08.34ag`_trh: it always returns 0 for me
20:08.41ag`_getn is the same as #table
20:09.05trhag`_: um.. it does work for me :)
20:09.18ag`_for what kind of tables?
20:09.35ag`_1 = .. 2= ... 3=... ?
20:09.41Barbanusag, I cant seem to find the fubar settings for AGUF now, like I cant move its postion to the right on my fubar
20:09.45BarbanusAm I blind?
20:09.48trhag`_: i used it for arrays, so
20:09.49BarbanusOr just dumb?
20:09.57trhag`_: { "something", "somethingother" }
20:10.00[Ammo]ag`: could it be that agUF causes lockups in combat situations. mainly with people joining the group in combat
20:10.01ag`_trh: hrm
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20:10.29ag`_[Ammo]: not sure, I haven't experienced it myself but it's kinda rare when people join in combat
20:10.51Barbanusag, it happens on disconnects / reconnects too
20:10.51ag`_Baraius: there's no fubar plugin in aguf
20:11.16[Ammo]ag`: it started happening since a few days ago
20:11.23[Ammo]ag`: and it doesn't happen with aguf disabled
20:11.30BarbanusI'd say about a week ago
20:11.40[Ammo]hence I was asking if someone else has the rpobelm too
20:11.44Barbanusthe worst is when like 4 people disconnect
20:11.52Barbanusand Then you get like a 5 sec lockup
20:12.36CIA-1703nirek * r23775 10Nvp/ (Nvp.lua Nvp.toc): Nvp: Fix a couple of typos
20:13.11BarbanusI get a lockup when the raid is disbanded after an AV also, but I'm not sure that one is agUF or not, never tested to be sure
20:13.13FtH|eagleag`_: should party pets work now?
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20:13.41ag`_FtH|eagle: no
20:13.43CIA-1703nirek * r23776 10Nvp/ (Nvp.lua Nvp.toc): Nvp: Somewhere along the line the keyword props went poof, oops
20:13.44FtH|eaglek
20:13.52[Ammo]Barbanus: I'm talkinga bout a full PC lockup, no more alt-tabbing et all
20:13.58ag`_FtH|eagle: try out /aguf pettest
20:13.58[Ammo]sounds like some blizzard bug triggered by agUF
20:14.13[Ammo]happens with Grid too
20:14.17ag`_[Ammo]: not sure it is a blizzard bug, could be an infinite loop in lua
20:14.28ag`_[Ammo]: so it happens if you use grid only too?
20:14.33FtH|eagleag`_: works, thanks
20:15.06[Ammo]ag'_: yeah
20:15.15[Ammo]could it be the distance check?
20:15.28ag`_[Ammo]: phew... was afraid it was my fault :)
20:15.32[Ammo]well
20:15.34ag`_you scared me there!
20:15.37ag`_haha
20:15.40vinaurso i've been looking at AceOptions and trying to find a way to make a /it [itemlink] command. Talked to Gagorian and he couldn't really come up with anything either. So I ended up thinking why not add a method to option type "group" that would be like nomatch or something. So basically if nothing in the group matches the input it would pass the input text to the function specified in the nomatch method. What do you guys think?
20:15.57ag`_vinaur: talk to ckknight
20:16.04[Ammo]or it could be a lib causing it?
20:16.18ag`_[Ammo]: it's very hard to debug
20:16.32ag`_because you won't be able to notice anything after it locks you know
20:16.39Barbanus[Ammo], so your client never comes back from the freeze at all?
20:16.52[Ammo]indeed
20:16.57vinaurag`_: i was hopping to get shot down with like "that's retarded" or something....didn't want to bother ckknight if it's not a reasonabe proposition
20:17.05[Ammo]I can't even alt-tab
20:17.12[Ammo]I have to restart my PC :p
20:17.21BarbanusHmmm mine locks up for 5-6 secs per person who goes offline / joins / leaves raid
20:17.34sylvanaarmorning
20:17.51Barbanushey sylvanaar
20:17.56vinaurhello
20:18.10[Ammo]barbanus I don't have that problem
20:18.17[Ammo]I have problems with group joins/leaves in combat
20:18.18BarbanusOh, you know what AG, I'm a retard, I was asking you a question about fubar, and yea, that sraidframes I am having issues with .. not aguf :P
20:18.22[Ammo]which happens quite frequently in BGs
20:19.07sylvanaari get infinite loops frequently trying to debug a chat mod
20:19.51Barbanus[Ammo], yea probably unrelated, but I get freezes, when I am incombat and people leave/join, but not complete lockups like you are discribing
20:20.07BarbanusIts the same .. but my computer revives itself :P
20:20.16[Ammo]it's not the same :)
20:20.20[Ammo]I have infinite loops
20:20.27sylvanaarBarbanus: is your issue the old noise on group joins
20:21.27Barbanussylvanaar, I dunno, Prat nukes that for me :P
20:22.16BarbanusI also believe I have that StopLFGClick mod installed still .. so yea...
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20:23.20sylvanaar[Ammo]: you should be able to ctrl-alt-del
20:23.23Benumbed[Ammo]: Thanks found it, overlooked it. Had tried MusicStreamFu.hideMenuTitle = true last night but just saw I needed MusicStream.hideMenuTitle = true also
20:24.34Industrialwhats this crap in the middle of my screen http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07016/WoWScrnShot_010607_212346.jpg
20:24.37Industrial:|
20:24.58BarbanusLOL@
20:25.01Barbanuswtf?
20:25.09Industrialthats what i thought when i logged in
20:25.22BenumbedI had that before
20:25.27kenlyric|homeI remember that mod.
20:25.34Benumbedwas a month ago but dont remember what it was
20:25.35kenlyric|homeit's a cooldown mod of some sort.
20:25.38CodayusIndustrial: ....hmm.
20:25.43Industrialalkbuffbars?
20:25.44Industrialelk*
20:25.47TainIt's a WoW addon virus
20:25.48Benumbedyeah thats it
20:25.50Industrialk
20:25.52Benumbedwas elk
20:25.56IndustrialElkano: WTF?!?!
20:25.56Benumbedhad to reset it
20:25.57sylvanaardo aguf and grid both use rosterlib?
20:25.57Barbanuslol Tain
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20:26.44Elkanohmm?
20:27.08Industrialhttp://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07016/WoWScrnShot_010607_212346.jpg
20:27.10dottedcan EquipCompare.lua in skinner, skin EQCompare?
20:27.31Elkanowithout looking: did you install ElkBuffBars?
20:27.34CIA-1703Tristan * r23777 10RaidAgent/RaidAgent.lua:
20:27.34CIA-17RaidAgent:
20:27.34CIA-17- Fixed possible login error :)
20:27.42IndustrialElkano: yes wtf is wrong with it
20:27.43Industrial:P
20:27.57Elkanowell EBBs ist just WIP.. uses EBB
20:28.15Industrialbut it already worked :S
20:28.52Barbanussylvanaar, aguf doesnt by the looks of it
20:28.53Elkanonope, ElkBuffBars (note the s at the end) was never working :P
20:29.09`-FISKER_Q\login error? :O
20:29.23kagarois there a way to force a combo box in aceoptions for a text field with validate ? it always seems to show me radios
20:29.33`-FISKER_Q\or else
20:29.35Barbanussylvanaar, normal ace stuff, dewdrop and surfacelib
20:29.45IndustrialElkano: ah.
20:29.50CIA-1703Tristan * r23778 10ChatHighlighter/ (. ChatHighlighter.lua ChatHighlighter.toc):
20:29.50CIA-17ChatHighlighter:
20:29.50CIA-17- Localized
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20:31.05IndustrialGagorian: Suggestion for DrDamage: remove any chat text thats not chat command handling.
20:31.14IndustrialGagorian: otherwise known as spam :D
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20:33.49Kaeltenhey industrial hows it goin?
20:34.04Industrialhi, good :)
20:34.22Kaeltencool :)
20:34.27Industrialplaying a littel with characters (paladin L10 atm) until expansion
20:34.30KaeltenI swatted a troll
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20:35.05Kaelten:)
20:35.07XuerianWhat have I missed out on stabbing as of late?
20:35.07TainToo bad they're not worth much experience, Kaelten.
20:35.29Arjorhey guys. is the latest aguf boren or something. i'm getting spamed by some error in av
20:35.31KaeltenXuerian: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3972.new#new
20:35.33Arjorsomething about unit
20:35.42Arjorbroken*
20:35.42KaeltenTain: nope, they're practically worthless
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20:36.11Industriali dont understand how trolls can be smartypants mages
20:36.15Industrialthey cant even speak right
20:36.30Kaeltenthats it because of his poor attitude towards me I'm shutting down wowace, I can't take it anymore ::sniffiles:
20:36.42XuerianGood lord, three pages today?
20:36.54Kaeltenlol
20:37.07Kaeltenya someone send me a link to it. telling me to check it out
20:37.17Industrialurl? ;s
20:37.24Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3972.new#new
20:38.06Xuerian~xuerian
20:38.07purlACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random.
20:38.34Kaeltenwhat kills me is that somone answered his quesstion like post # 3
20:38.35Kaeltenor so
20:39.06XuerianHaha, Lewzephyr's post was fun.
20:40.39Kaeltenheh and according to the OP he's lewzephyr was the troll
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20:41.55Laricis chrisp (svn login) usually on irc?
20:42.16KaeltenXuerian: I like Neriak's response
20:43.09ThorgardGuh.. :/
20:43.17ThorgardI gotta start backing up my WTF directory..
20:43.37XuerianKaelten: Pulling out the backhoe to dig through the crap.. (Looking for the post)
20:43.54Kaeltenlast post second page
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20:47.38XuerianKaelten: lol. Does somewhat seem like a lone disgruntled highlander charging into a english camp.
20:49.37DeviadHow do I attach the party unit frames one to each other like before?
20:49.53DeviadI want them to be considered like a single unit like before
20:49.55kagaroany really good at ui elements? i need soem frame code
20:50.04`-FISKER_Q\btw weab
20:50.19IndustrialKaelten: good thing i didnt notice that thread i would have said some nasty things :(
20:50.25`-FISKER_Q\An addon can't enable/disable autorun right?
20:50.30Industrialno
20:50.33`-FISKER_Q\:(
20:50.34trhkagaro: depends on what exactly.. i used it in my addon, but i didn't got everything about it ;)
20:51.10Xueriankagaro: We're all UI devs, more or less. Ask or gtfo :P
20:51.19KarlThePaganman that could be cide lol
20:51.21ThorgardGah. :/ I don't like how one mod throwing errors messed up my FuBar settings and made my eePanels go poof. :(
20:51.33kagaroi need a frame with 2 dropdowns: first drop down is a <texture> <string>  across from it is another dropdown with <texture> <string>
20:51.50kagaronot sure if thats the best option for it either
20:52.05kagaroIm doing an icon remapper for cart
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20:52.25ZealotOnAStickOk, the next time ckknight asks in channel "hey, does anyone anticipate a problem changing <some long-standing standard of DB format that -everyone- has in their SVs>" I'm going to dispatch assassins.
20:52.30kagaroso you can choose icon 1 to be remapped to the other custom icon
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20:54.14trhkagaro: i'd choose to show the icon with a button to change it and reuse the blizzard code from the macro icon choice thingy
20:54.30kagaroi was just gona menu it but tooo many radio buttons
20:54.33Mimesisthats a pretty funny thread i have to admit
20:54.41kagarotrh: hmm thats a good idea
20:55.08KemayoI'm playing the fun game of "how many addons do I have to disable before I can dismiss my pet?"
20:55.33LaricKemayo all of em ? :P
20:55.36trhKemayo: get a stacktrace :P
20:55.38Mimesisdisable ace2
20:56.14XuerianKemayo: agUF? XL did it for a while before I posthooked.
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20:57.50LaricKemayo I have had a nightmare using questsfu today.. took mea while to pinpoint it to questsfu.. I played some in a party today. and everytime someone got a quest item in a quest I had aswell dc'd me..
20:58.24LaricI now have no hair anymore :P
20:58.48JohnnyFive\MojoHello everyone :)
20:59.46ZealotOnAStickSo, you think we'll hit 25000 commits before BC live?
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21:00.18mjc<eqjoe> ok... so I call Obsticle if I am stuck unexpectly and from that I call IPO. If IPO cant figure it out or says there is no obstruction, I do the fancy strafe dance
21:00.19mjc<Fluffster> But do you wear a kilt while doing the strafe dance?
21:00.20mjchahah
21:02.08`-FISKER_Q\are blizzard going to fix raid groups not showing up in combat?
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21:03.36KarlThePaganZealotOnAStick, actually I think we can figure it out ;) - that'd be 1222 commits in 10 days... wowace google group says 133 posts per day so if that is accurate we'll be well past 25000 commits
21:04.51KemayoIt turns out that all I had to disable was ag_UF and Clearfont2.
21:04.57KarlThePaganI think I need to rename GrouperLFG to "Fun With Iterators"
21:05.04Laricfisker.. yes they are... they are gonna make them so that they are not unit frames in the social panel if i understood it correctly
21:05.14KarlThePaganbecause that's all I'm doing at this point
21:05.29KaeltenKarlThePagan:  I think we've been avg a commit every 30 mins or so
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21:05.48XuerianCIA MIA?
21:06.19KarlThePagankael how is google overestimating by 250%? :(
21:06.30LaricKemayo is there any change in questsfu/quixote that could cause my dc's when someone in my party recieves a quest item?
21:06.51KarlThePaganwe just slow down recently?
21:06.53KaeltenKarlThePagan: thats an avg based off the last 2 years almost
21:07.00KarlThePaganahhh phooey
21:07.10Kaeltenactually we're speeding up
21:07.51Laricit was commit number 10000 in november or something like that right?
21:08.42CIA-17ow
21:08.47KarlThePaganso ... I think there's just under 224 hours to go until midnight on the 16th USA eastern time
21:09.05KarlThePaganI guess 223 if you're atlantic time out there in canada
21:09.39KarlThePagan5.5 commits per hour to make 25000
21:09.58KarlThePagannot worth it... totally worthless development metric
21:10.10CIA-1703nargiddley * r23779 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
21:10.10CIA-17Baggins:
21:10.10CIA-17- Changed how the ItemType rule is localized, enUS value will be stored in sv so saved rules are portable, non enUS users will have to redo any rules they have or reload defaults
21:10.10CIA-17- Bank bags only show in the tooltip if the bank is open
21:10.10CIA-17- Bank bags are colored blue in the tooltip and edit bag window
21:10.23nymbiaor just do something complex to the svn that requires a lot of commits ;)
21:10.33Kaeltenlol
21:10.56KarlThePaganI could commit for every feature I change
21:11.07KarlThePaganwhich actually would be correct by some methodologies
21:11.35Kaeltenor we could try to not artificially inflate it and see what happens :)
21:12.22nymbiawhy would we want to reach 25000, anyway?  woulda made a lot more sense to rush for 20000 before patch 2.0
21:12.26KemayoLaric: I am unsure as to why that would be happening.
21:12.28ThorgardKaelten, you're such a party-pooper. ;P
21:13.07KarlThePaganhehe
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21:13.48ZealotOnAStickIt was just a random thought . . .
21:13.54KarlThePaganlol
21:13.55ZealotOnASticknot like I'm posing a challenge or anything.
21:13.58KarlThePagan<3
21:13.58Laricneriaks latest post is very diplomatic :P
21:14.14KarlThePaganyou can't diplomatize with a troll like that
21:14.26Laricit was quite amusing :P
21:14.33KarlThePaganhehe
21:14.35nymbiawhat post?
21:14.58Larichttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3972.msg73379#msg73379
21:15.29nymbiarofl
21:15.46Kaeltenya I rather liked it too
21:15.56Laricnymbia you the same nymbia as in the original nymbia perl?
21:16.27JohnnyFive\MojoAnyone have intimate knowledge of FuBar and Dewdrop?
21:16.29nymbiai'd almost like to see the Ace2 Addons forum only allow topic creation by authors, place is becoming a cesspool
21:16.32nymbiaLaric: yeah
21:16.38Laricnice
21:17.02Mikmayello
21:17.04Kaeltenwell lack of moderation is the problem there.
21:17.24Mikmai can moderate
21:17.29Kaeltenscary
21:17.31Mikma"del, del, ban, del"
21:17.45Kaeltenlol
21:18.11nymbiaKaelten: maybe just a stickied post to inform people that their bug-report/gripe/addon idea should go to the applicable area, not a new thread in that forum.
21:18.31nymbiafor now ^^
21:18.32TainStickying something is a sure way to get it ignored.
21:18.36ZealotOnAStickEhh, I asked once of your forum software could merge topics, and almost offered my services to go clean up and merge a bunch of stuff together so we wouldn't have 6 topics for the same addon . . .
21:18.44ZealotOnAStickbut then got scared that you might accept.
21:18.58JohnnyFive\MojoI'm trying to make a left click drop-down menu using dewdrop on a fubar addon.. is that possible? I'm obviously new and the api isn't enough for me to figure it out. Anyone willing to lend a hand?
21:19.50KaeltenZealotOnAStick: I accept
21:20.28Kaeltenme thinks that m'haps ZealotOnAStick suddely went afk
21:20.53ZealotOnAStickActually, I did, but it was before you responded.
21:21.04Larichehehe.. be nice to him kaelten :P
21:21.05Kaeltenlol
21:21.07ZealotOnAStickI went and got a coke and a slice of cinnamon swirl bundt cake with cream cheese icing.
21:21.22Kaeltentasty
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21:21.33LaricZealotOnAStick argh... no need for details... now I got very very hungry
21:22.17ThorgardZealotOnAStick, I hope you choke on that cinnamon swirl bundt cake with cream cheese icing.
21:22.17Kaeltenfor mentioning such tasty food
21:22.28JohnnyFive\Mojoor not..
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21:23.41KaeltenJohnnyFive\Mojo: it is possible, look in the code for the new KC_Items in branch
21:23.43KaeltenI do it there
21:23.55Kaeltenfor the targets button
21:23.57Laricyou are promoting him for making the rest of us suffer? ;P
21:24.06JohnnyFive\Mojook, ty
21:24.12KaeltenLaric: lol
21:24.23nymbiai call 'suffering' having to find something in the addons forum right now
21:24.40Laricnymbia I know..
21:25.13Laricthats why I only check for ammo's posts before asking on irc.. he goes mental if I ask something he has answered in a post somewhere :P
21:25.34ZealotOnAStickUhm, thanks.  I think.  
21:26.12Laricnow go fix the forum :P :P :P
21:26.33ZealotOnAStickOk, this is really disappointing.
21:26.42Larichttp://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1168093571568_56.jpg
21:26.43ZealotOnAStickSomeone posted a "Discord Art - Stoned UI" on Curse.
21:26.49ZealotOnAStickNot at all what I was hoping for.
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21:27.08KaeltenZealotOnAStick: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2779;sa=summary
21:27.28ThorgardWoe is you, ZealotOnAStick.. "Global Moderator"
21:27.33Larichii haste :P
21:27.52Kaeltenyes you can split and merge
21:28.00Kaeltenthanks for volunteering :)
21:29.21Kaeltenme thinks that ZealotOnAStick has ran away
21:29.40Larichttp://wackywarnings.com/ Love that page... Americans are nuts.. (no offence intended)
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21:29.53cynyrAntiarc: would like to say i really like your poison buying/crafting mod, is there a chance that it could have flashpowder added? and also it doesn't seem to open at all of the vendors that sell mats for poisons
21:31.06DeviadHow do I move all the party unit frames together again in ag unit frames?
21:31.12DeviadCan anyone pls tell me?
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21:35.05Kaeltenlol, was worried you where deleting your forum account to sign back up
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21:37.02GagorianIndustrial: There's only one message and that appears only if you try to use it with a class that's not supported :l
21:37.13ZealotOnAStickNah, I'm just more worried I may annoy folks with some of my cleaning efforts.
21:37.41IndustrialGagorian: ah well thats what i was seeing :p
21:37.45DeviadDoes anyone know about that thing in ag uf?
21:38.06GagorianIndustrial: Well the question is why are you trying to do that? ;)
21:39.02KaeltenZealotOnAStick: just don't delete things that are remotely useful, in fact for the most part I never delete unless its just down right ugly
21:39.15GagorianIndustrial: When I added that message I thought it'd be easier than having to respond "why doesn't it work on my hunter!??!!111"
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21:40.27Teomyrwhat would be the best way to check out a 1.12 version from the svn?
21:40.41ZealotOnAStickI'm more likely to move/merge than delete anything.  
21:40.57Teomyrchinese wow is at 1.12.3 atm, and someone asked how to get a compatible bigwigs version
21:41.05Kaeltenya, you can also create the sub cats in the addons forum if you feel like it
21:41.27ZealotOnAStickTeomyr: with an SVN client, view the changelog back to something pre-2.0 and do an export of that specific revision.
21:41.45ZealotOnAStickKaelten: nuh-uh.  I remember the last time a bunch of subboards were added.
21:41.48XuerianTeomyr: tortiseSVN can bring up a nice interactive revision list with comments.
21:42.03Teomyri was thinking about that too, but wouldn't that fetch the 2.0 externals?
21:42.07ZealotOnASticknot that I'd add "a bunch" anyway were I inclined to.
21:42.19ZealotOnAStickThey want a 1.12 bigwigs?
21:42.41Teomyryes, they say chinese wow is still at 1.12
21:42.42ZealotOnAStickI presume they're ok with modifying a toc if necessary?  I've got a massive old version of addons archive.
21:42.49XuerianTeomyr: Looks like your best bet might be to dig through release histories on WoWI or /files if it has that far back
21:42.51ZealotOnAStickLemme see what the last 1.12 one I have lying around is.
21:43.08TainChinese WoW is not at 1.12.
21:43.14KaeltenZealotOnAStick: well the poll we had said people wanted limited sub cats
21:43.21Kaeltenwe just never got around to setting them back up
21:43.44ZealotOnASticklooks like 18280 is the latest I have with a 11200 toc.
21:44.07ZealotOnAStickI also have 18431 in my 1.12 folder, but it's a 20000 toc (though it may still work with 1.12, would have to see)
21:44.35ZealotOnAStickIs this really chinese wow, or is it someone's emu server?
21:45.07nevcairielwhich emu server really has the boss scripts where you would need bigwigs for?
21:45.07nevcairiel:D
21:45.33Teomyr... i was just going to ask that ;)
21:45.47Mikma~framexml
21:45.54purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip
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21:46.28ZealotOnAStickAnyway, if someone wants an old bigwigs, I have those two revisions I mentioned sitting around.  I can DCC or e-mail or something.
21:46.58Laricwasnt it 18808 when ckknight moved tbc branced ace2 to trunk?
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21:48.08Teomyrso, anyone who could provide anaconda10 with a download link to a 1.12 release for bigwigs?
21:49.17nymbiamaybe check wowi's old versions
21:49.55anaconda10how to check that? i only see the 2.0 ones are present
21:49.56ThraeAhhh there we go. New router, shorewall back up and running.
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21:50.16JohnnyFive\Mojowhat is a moduleprototype?
21:50.21Solehi
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21:51.24nymbiawell, if they arent there, then i guess you'd need to use svn to checkout the old version
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21:51.44Kaelten-LaptopJohnnyFive\Mojo: has to do with ModuleCore
21:51.57Teomyrthe problem is, doing a svn checkout on an older revision will still fetch the most recent externals, which don't work with 1.12
21:52.12JohnnyFive\Mojohrm, just not finding anything when I search wowace.. I'll keep looking
21:52.26JohnnyFive\MojoThank you for responding Kaelten-Laptop
21:52.27Kaelten-LaptopJohnnyFive\Mojo: AceModuleCore its a section under Ace2
21:52.34JohnnyFive\Mojoic, ty
21:52.42ZealotOnAStickYeah, hold on, lemme throw something up on a free download site.
21:52.54ZealotOnAStickAnyone have any recommendations as to which is the least suck?
21:53.04nymbiayes, you'd need to grab the libraries from their 1.12 branches.
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21:54.36Soleugh wheres the file which contains my firefox passwords?
21:54.49ZealotOnAStickI'm siging up for a filefront account, I'll have one up in a minute.
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21:55.54Laric18708 is the revision when ace2 tbc is moved to trunk..
21:56.22StavmarI am getting an error on AgUF any thoughts: ag_UnitClass.lua:769: Usage: UnitClass ("unit")
21:56.24ZealotOnAStick18431 is the last 1.12 one I seem to have.
21:56.25grennonthis guy working on a MailTo port named it Postman
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21:57.15anaconda10could anyone post a svn link to bigwigs plz?
21:57.19LaricI am checking out the latest non 1.12 version right now
21:57.30ZealotOnAStickhttp://dodownload.filefront.com/6482569//ea2ac0d843804a531c0a35ba23c5a170436b11f04ed2641c7735a9f348bc9cda8ba7fcfccdf5fa87
21:57.47Larichttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BigWigs
21:57.49ZealotOnASticktry that, anaconda10
21:58.09ZealotOnAStickif nothing else, it'll get you proper libs for 1.12.
21:58.29Teomyrwhen you tell SVN to check out a specific revision of an addon, why doesn't it check out that revision of its externals too?
21:58.41Teomyrwould make things so much easier :/
21:59.04anaconda10thx, but i'm not getting go with filefront well today :(
21:59.37Laricteomyr it should
22:00.08ZealotOnAStickDo you have some better place I could upload it?  Or can you accept DCC transfer?
22:01.13anaconda10what does dcc transfer mean?
22:01.28Laricsend througg irc
22:01.32ZealotOnAStickKaelten: trying to clean up some of the Cartographer mess . . . I've merged the 3 herbalism threads together.  There's still a bunch, but I don't want to lump everything or make a subcategory for it without checking with a couple of folks first.
22:01.43ZealotOnAStickit's a file transfer via IRC.
22:02.00grennonthis guy also made the same mistake i did
22:02.17grennonhe copied ct_mailmod code without clearly attributing in the actual lua file before the code
22:02.20StavmarIn using AgUF I updated this AM I am receving this error while in raid: Interface/AddOns/ag_unitframes/ag_UnitClass.lua:769: Usage: UnitClass ("unit")
22:02.25Stavmarany thoughts?
22:02.29anaconda10does it require me to set something up for it?
22:02.51grennonyoud think someone wouldnt make that mistake a week after gmail got deleted
22:03.02Kaelten-Laptophrm its one of those hard questions
22:03.23ZealotOnAStickanaconda10: maybe.  If you have a standard irc client and aren't using a web-irc java portal, it'll probably be ok, but you may have router/firewall issues or may need to set passive mode.
22:03.27ZealotOnAStickCan try it and see.
22:03.43anaconda10i'm completely new to irc
22:03.44anaconda10ok try it
22:04.10Teomyrre-uploaded it to http://vs157092.vserver.de/wow/BigWigs_r18431.zip
22:04.17CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r23780 10DKPmon/DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon: v2.0 -- Added CTRT-xml compatible export option. (drycode).
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22:05.25ZealotOnASticktrying to send now, do you have a dialog asking you to accept?  If not, try the link Teomyr just posted.
22:06.07anaconda10i've got that, but it seems not working at all
22:06.27anaconda10windows vista sucks
22:06.50GagorianIs it sufficient to define local _G = getfenv(0) only once when addon is enabled if I use it to get actionbutton frames?
22:07.06GagorianProbably a better solution than using getglobal cause it runs pretty often
22:07.59ThraeGagorian: Yes.
22:09.41DeviadCan anyone tell me how to set up the party frame properly?
22:10.25GagorianAlright. And another question: Is there any better solution than concatenating name = "ActionButton" .. i; button = _G.name; when iterating through the list of buttons?
22:11.22nymbia_G["ActionButton"..1]
22:11.53cynyranyone else getting errors with the newest grid?
22:11.56Gagorian..i?
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22:12.16nymbias/1/i/
22:12.17nymbia;)
22:12.27dafireis this thing real ? http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/original/1859.jpg
22:12.48Gagorianyeah, the reason I used strings is mainly cause I have a lot of different names ie BT3Button, TrinityActionButton
22:12.55Gagorianbut I'll just put that table call in every if clause
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22:14.57Smeltnhmm
22:15.01Smeltnquestion
22:15.36Sparhawkeis there an ace mod out there that will let me resize my tooltip?
22:15.44Smeltndoes bartender have a problem with right clicking not workign?
22:15.56Smeltntinytip will do that Sparhawk
22:15.57Smeltne
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22:16.37ZealotOnAStickdafire: I'm skeptical of it being real.
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22:16.49ZealotOnAStickwouldn't rule it out . . . but damn.
22:17.01Thorgarddafire, that's one nice axe. :o
22:17.01TainI can believe everything except for the immunity to fear.
22:17.21dafirecan paladins wear two hand axes ?
22:17.29dafirei see tears *g*
22:17.43Laricdafire yes they can
22:17.50dafireoh no tears then ;)
22:18.00Teomyrhunter weapon!!111
22:18.01Gnarfozthere's immunity to disarm already, why no immunity to fear?
22:18.02Gnarfoz;]
22:18.15ZealotOnAStickand come on, "Head of Illidan?"
22:18.31ZealotOnAStickI have a fair amount of skepticism believing that we're really going to slay Illidan.
22:18.42JohnnyFive\Mojothis is going to drive me nuts
22:19.02ThraeZealotOnAStick: You are not prepared.
22:19.18Gnarfozindeed
22:19.38Sparhawkethanks
22:19.46Teomyrlooks like he's been going through item IDs or something
22:20.04kenlyric|homehmmm, the last 60 seconds of this colts/KC game was the saddest bit of football I've ever seen.
22:20.07ZealotOnAStickKaelten: though I'm starting to think it's worthwhile to give agUF its own subboard.  
22:21.24nymbiaZealotOnAStick: with the current state of things, that wouldnt hurt for any of the big ones --cartographer, grid, aguf.. but really, most of those posts ought to be directed to somewhere other than a new forum topic.
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22:22.38ZealotOnAStickWell, I was going to merge a lot of the agUF stuff into the "suggestions, requests, and temp fixes" thread, or maybe the original, but I'm up to like 11 aguf misc threads thus far.
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22:22.45CIA-1703thrae * r23781 10VitalWatch/ (15 files in 3 dirs):
22:22.45CIA-17VitalWatch -- Added aggro gained/lost alerts via BanzaiLib. You can use message
22:22.45CIA-17frame alerts, emotes, sounds, and chat messages reporting aggro. Aggro sounds
22:22.45CIA-17can also be played which tell you which class has aggro. Also fixed a few bugs.
22:23.00CIA-1703thrae * r23782 10VitalWatchOptions/ (VitalWatchOptions.lua VitalWatchOptionsLocale_enEN.lua): VitalWatchOptions -- Updated for VitalWatch.
22:23.01kebinusanI really want them to do Uldum
22:23.13ZealotOnAStickwhat would you suggest, nymbia?
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22:24.01Mikmacrap. i can't remember how the DreamLayout works xD
22:24.23Tmandoes anyone know if it's possible to port your old flexbar settings to flexbar2 beta?
22:25.08`-FISKER_Q\What does vitalwatch do besides added aggro stuff?
22:25.15nymbiaZealotOnAStick: well, not really sure.  there's no real consistant area for feature requests/bug reports.  i mean, sure, there's trac, but it's sometime very slow and a lot of authors arent using it.  so.. as is, i'd say what you're doing is what should be done. and it'll be a vast improvement :)
22:25.18ZealotOnASticktman:  currently, probably not, though I don't know that for a fact,
22:25.23Mikmahaste: *sob* and i can't remember where i put the code
22:25.46SoLoRMikma just ninja from Buffalo
22:25.53SoLoRi think its your code anyway :P
22:26.13Mikmahehe that's true
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22:26.55vinaurok, since this is a new audience, i'm gonna post something again and hope for some input...
22:27.00vinaurso i've been looking at AceOptions and trying to find a way to make a /it [itemlink] command. Talked to Gagorian and he couldn't really come up with anything either. So I ended up thinking why not add a method to option type "group" that would be like nomatch or something. So basically if nothing in the group matches the input it would pass the input text to the function specified in the nomatch method. What do you guys think?
22:27.30snurre-Lord.of the.Rings.ALL.MOViES.EXTENDED.EDiTiON.DVDRip.XViD-ScT while playing hunter in AV ftw
22:27.35nymbiawhat'll /it [itemlink] do?
22:27.53Gnarfozsnurre-: 1080p versions of that ftw. :p
22:27.58BarbanusHmmmm my BG score at the top of the screen is gone
22:28.09vinaurin this particular case would give you the path to the item texture
22:28.16snurre-cant have fullscreen anyway, gotta have *some* idea of whats going on
22:28.28snurre-since my second monitor stopped working the other day :(
22:28.40snurre-crappy benq
22:29.38SoLoRvinaur why would this be usefull?
22:29.42vinaurnymbia, but i have other addon that also uses the sam synatax...imo having an option that just takes arguments without a command is a good feature...makes lazy users happy
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22:30.13vinaurSoLoR, less typing..
22:30.17SoLoRvinaur lazy users wont bother with commands :D
22:30.30SoLoRthats why deucecommander was invented :)
22:30.31vinaurSoLoR, not if they have no choice :-P
22:30.45anaconda10ok i got the r18431 of bigwigs and it works well.. thanks to Teomyr and ZealotOnAStick ;) good luck
22:31.10ZealotOnAStickGood luck to you as well.
22:31.44nymbiavinaur: SpellBinder does that. well, not exactly that, but close enough.
22:31.58vinaurnymbia, k, i'll check it out
22:32.02nymbiajust change it from an execute to a text
22:32.34vinaurbut all of those options still require a name...which is exactly what's missing in /it [itemlink]
22:33.48nymbiajust name it anything, doesnt matter.  if your root table is not a 'group', then it'll respond to the base slash command
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22:34.33nymbiayou could change spellbinder's name = and desc = to "Queen of France" and it'd still respond to /spellbind the same way ;)
22:34.42vinaursee but i need it to be root, since there are more options
22:34.51vinaurgroup not root
22:35.10nymbiahmm, ugly
22:36.12vinaurmaybe in some sense, but ability to execute a command if none of the options match would still be a nice feature
22:36.38nymbiawell if it's a group then it's forced to display the options within the group when you use it like that -- so you're stuck with either using a single-option slash command, or writing non-aceconsole slash handler.
22:37.15vinauryeah, that's what i concluded...there's no support for this in ace...yet
22:37.36vinaurbut is there any reason you guys can think of why nomatch option could not be implemented?
22:38.10Thorgardpastamancer, ping
22:40.08Wogroipldafire:ping
22:40.17dafirehere .9
22:40.34WogroiplIs this what you are looking for: http://ace.pastey.net/4627?
22:41.31dafirethanks .. I'll try
22:41.33ZealotOnASticknymbia: that's it!  I demand you rename Spellbinder to "Antoinette" ;)
22:41.48nymbiaROFL
22:41.50nymbiak
22:43.05dafireWogroipl: you can paste it in http://www.the-unholy-inquisition.com/wow/tuiraidtracker_itemstats.php
22:43.26Mikmagrzesieq: well, now theres some fixed in MiniBar :P Petbar ain't like the ActionButtons are but it works
22:44.02Smeltndoes bartender have a problem with right clicking not workign?
22:44.44Wogroipldafire: looks nice :) now what?
22:45.29dafirethats all right now .9
22:46.35Wogroiplhaha so far it works then :)
22:47.20Sparhawketons of AG errors
22:47.24SparhawkeC stack overflow
22:47.40todd`yesterday, there was a new option in prat to make chat frames appear or something similar
22:47.45todd`anyone know where that option is at?
22:47.53nevcairielSmeltn: i can right-click to cast spells, and it does the same as left-click, or what are you trying to do?
22:47.54Thorgardkergoth, [2007/01/06 16:47:35-6-x1]: kEnergy\tick.lua:105: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'olden' (a nil value)
22:48.14DeviadCan anyone explain me how to make move all of of the party unit frames in ag uf together?
22:48.15Deviadpls
22:48.27DeviadI don't remember how to do that :(
22:48.32KarlThePaganfixing tourist IterateInstances...
22:48.35KarlThePagantotally broke lol
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22:50.18ThorgardDeviad, updated agUF recently?
22:50.19Tricksta_Heya, any people on here that know if Ckk ever added a waypoints function to Carto, like on Mapnotes where you can follow an icon on mini map till you arrive?
22:50.25DeviadThorgard, yes
22:50.52Deviadthey just move singularly
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22:50.53Deviadand keep on moving and resizing randomly
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22:50.56Deviadwithout my intervention
22:51.03DeviadI'd like to know how to set them
22:51.11Deviadjust party frames
22:51.14Tricksta_*me thinks*
22:51.18Deviadthe rest works ok
22:51.54Tricksta_I just dont get it, why Carto has everything I want except that one important thing ...waypoints
22:51.59Tricksta_Oh well
22:52.50DeviadThorgard, any news?
22:54.17CIA-1703karlthepagan * r23783 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua:
22:54.17CIA-17TouristLib:
22:54.17CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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22:55.42cynyris there an easy way to roll back a version with svn?
22:55.57ZealotOnAStickHrm.  He left before I could response.  Oh well.
22:56.06ZealotOnASticks/response/respond/
22:56.07ThorgardDeviad, it's working for me. :o What Revision are you using?
22:56.07KarlThePagancynyr, define "easy"
22:56.32cynyrKarlThePagan: "svn --use-old-version Grid"
22:56.42DeviadThorgard, latest one
22:56.46ZealotOnAStickDeviad, there should be an option under party frames to dock them together or something like that.
22:56.47CIA-1703thrae * r23784 10VitalWatch/ (42 files in 2 dirs): VitalWatch -- Forgot all sounds must be 8kHz, converted. Deleted deDE and zhCN localizations since they have nothing new in them now.
22:57.02ZealotOnAStickGimme a minute to login and I can tell you exactly what it's called if you can't find it.
22:57.02KarlThePagannot that easy - http://www.wowace.com/files/Grid/ are the old zips
22:57.03cynyrKarlThePagan: so that i don't have to delete it and the figure out how to check out a specific version
22:57.05KarlThePaganthat's pretty easy
22:57.10CIA-1703thrae * r23785 10VitalWatchOptions/VitalWatchOptionsLocale_enEN.lua: VitalWatchOptions -- Bug fix.
22:57.26ThorgardDeviad, 23745?
22:57.27cynyrKarlThePagan: are those set up for standalone libs??
22:57.46KarlThePaganno, but... http://www.wowace.com/files/Grid/no-ext/ those are
22:57.55cynyrohh kk thanks
22:58.07DeviadThorgard, I downloaded it a few hours ago
22:58.20break19hmm.. i completely switched to no external versions .. and it seems bananabar doesnt like that..
22:58.20Deviadnow I'm in game in an instance
22:58.39Deviadcan you pls check what the options to dock those frames is?
22:58.44Deviadthe option*
22:58.51CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r23786 10Prat/Prat/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Prat: improved pet bar workaround code. experimental's module, base implementations of get/set/exec
22:58.55ThorgardThey're docked by default and I don't see an option to undock them. ;)
22:59.46kebinusanhmm I wish I could figure out why suddenly my cpu load in wow seems so high
23:00.50yacoobit's not a bug, it's a feature, kebinusan!
23:01.04andremarits the hidden "give intel money" feature
23:01.25kebinusanandremar: yeah, that was my second thought
23:02.00ZealotOnAStickYou're right.  Looks like it's not there anymore.  Lots of options for growth direction and distance in Group Layout . . .
23:02.16ag`_#table returns 0 but for k,v in pairs(table) have 2 values :(
23:02.16yacoobgief epic cpu, k?
23:02.20ag`_what am I doing wrong?
23:02.37ag`_#table does not give me the amount of values in an array it seems
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23:02.59Deviadis there any way to get the older version?
23:03.05break19someone know offhand, the little /script snippet of code to unhide a disappeared chat window?
23:03.25Deviadtill this one gets fixed I mean
23:03.35nymbiabreak19: /script ChatFrame1:Show()
23:04.08break19nymbie tn
23:04.09break19x
23:04.34break19i havent had that problem since the new patch until today.. had hoped it'd been fixed :/
23:05.27nevcairielag`_: # does only work on indexed tables
23:05.34ZealotOnAStickok . . . MusicStream kicks ass.
23:05.51break19oh.. and is the author of bulkmail here? :)
23:05.56trhbreak19: you can also disable the auto join guild recruitment channel in the interface options, then you wont have to show the frame again
23:05.58*** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-244-72-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:06.08break19trh: it *was* disabled.
23:06.16trhbreak19: that is weird
23:06.46break19toggling it is what seems to fix it.. check it if its not.. uncheck if it is.. problem stops for a while
23:06.46ag`_nevcairiel: what's the fastest way to get the number on an array then?
23:07.02Tornhooftable.getn(blub);
23:07.17Tornhoof#table just works for integer index
23:07.30ag`_table.getn is the same as #table
23:07.40ag`_it doesn't work for arrays either
23:07.49cynyranyone know what text:utf8sub() does/is? and why it could be a nill value?
23:08.08ag`_nevcairiel: ... any clue? :p
23:08.20mjcprat's urlcopy stuff fucks up on broken iwin button
23:08.22Tornhoofhmm k #table breaks as soon you have holes in your indexing integers ;)
23:08.37Tornhoof1,2,3,5 returns 3
23:08.49CIA-1703grennon 07PostalLib * r23787 10Postal/PostalLib-1.0.lua: Postal: reduce checks for item/money gets
23:08.51ag`_well for arrays it always returns 0
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23:09.17Tornhoofwell do the for k,v in pairs() stuff? and increment counter?
23:09.28ag`_i know
23:09.32Tornhoofor add some metatable function which handles your own counter?
23:09.36ag`_but is taht the fastest way?
23:09.46nevcairielag`_: i dont think there is another way then iterating it
23:09.56ag`_okay, Guess I will do that
23:10.34ag`_or how if I set all the values to nil
23:10.34Tornhoofthe index thing might work too though
23:10.43mjcdear mother can you hear me whinin'...
23:10.45nevcairielag`_: i guess you know about the errors with UnitClass and UnitIsPVPFreeForAll?
23:10.57ag`_nevcairiel: not sure
23:11.06nevcairielwell it spams me :P
23:11.20nevcairiel[2007/01/06 21:41:48-33-x2022]: ag_UnitFrames-0_o \ag_UnitClass.lua:958: Usage: UnitIsPVPFreeForAll("unit")
23:11.31nevcairiel[2007/01/06 21:43:31-33-x95]: ag_UnitFrames-0_o \ag_UnitClass.lua:777: Usage: UnitClass("unit"
23:11.34nevcairielthose two
23:12.10mjcI won a ticket through a wasteland I'd like to call my home.. welcome to paradise...
23:12.26CIA-1703grennon * r23788 10/branches/Postal/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Postal: Added Postal_TradeBlock, self-contained module for block trades while mailframe is open
23:12.44mjcgood idea grennon
23:12.56grennonnot an original idea
23:13.06grennonbut a very simple one to implement
23:13.12Tornhoofis there any mod/function which returns the memory size of a table?
23:13.25mjctekprober/teksupport
23:13.26grennonpostal is becoming the prat of mailmods
23:13.30mjchaha
23:13.47nymbiathat's a good thing :)
23:14.01grennonits not truly modular though like prat
23:14.10break19grennon: where might I be able to "GO POSTAL" :)
23:14.11BatosIn agUF, how do you turn on showing combo points under your target frames, and how do you group the party frames so when you can move them all together?
23:14.13grennonbut at least the code is separated for now
23:14.23Batos*so you can
23:14.23grennonbreak19: Postal EATS GNOME BABBIES
23:14.31grennonbreak19: not ready for usage
23:14.48break19good thing my dwarf doesnt like gnome girls :p
23:15.32Tornhoofbatos, show group anchor?
23:15.40break19grennon - so if I try to use it, it'll also eat my mail? k :p
23:16.03KemayoHunter pets of a given type have all been normalized now, right?
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23:16.42break19oh, and someone tell me.. is there an addon (ace or other) that will hide my scroll arrows on my chats and allow me to move the popup tab to the other side of the window?
23:17.01Tornhoofhmm is there anything i need to change with tekprober/support to get it running?
23:17.08Tornhoofno error no slash commands ;)
23:17.09grennonbreak19: it might, iduno
23:17.11break19<- has a guild chat window on the right side of the screen, and when he loots, he has a tendency to rightclick the damn tab...
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23:17.21andremarbreak19: prat has the hide buttons feature atleast
23:17.29andremarbreak19: dunno if it can move the tab
23:17.39ZealotOnAStickBatos - combo points has a fairly obvious (I think main menu level) check option.
23:17.49break19Kemayo: not yet... that happens with BC.. my BT cat still had 1.0dps after 2.0
23:18.18andremarhehe, everyone seen the latest The N00b commic?
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23:18.19andremarbreak19: 1.0 dps? thats not alot :p
23:18.40break19andremar errr attack speed :p
23:19.14break19but yes, kemayo, all hunter pets will be changed to 2.0 attack speed from what I understand.
23:19.34Tmandoes flexbar2 (beta) function at all? it seems to be missing two files mentioned in the .toc and all the code looks like a lot of stub
23:21.19BatosTornhoof, the group anchor isn't connected to the group frames apparently.. i can move them separately.
23:21.37BatosZealotOnAStick, where? I can't find it.
23:21.54Tornhoofwrong version maybe batos
23:22.04Tornhoofthat was fixed yesterday
23:22.26BatosI *just* updated.
23:22.49Tornhoofkill sv ?
23:23.01Batoshuh?
23:23.20grennonactually, it looks like this Postman guy is working on all the features Postal wont have mainly
23:23.26grennonthe Mailto stuffs
23:23.51grennonhe probably should have looked at "MailTo Next" though, its a vastly superior mod
23:24.00Tornhoofremove your saved variables?
23:24.39ZealotOnAStickok, agUF has officially the most spawned clog threads of about anything.
23:24.52grennoni have "alt-click to add items to sendmail frame" in postal_express, but im worried about a mailmod adding items to trade windows or auction windows
23:25.02BatosTornhoof, then I have to configure everything again, won't I?
23:26.40BatosZealotOnAStick, do you know where to find the combo point option?
23:27.22BatosTornhoof, what version of agUF do you have?
23:27.31BatosI mean, which one is the latest?
23:27.35CIA-1703nargiddley * r23789 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
23:27.35CIA-17Baggins:
23:27.35CIA-17- Optimize event handling to prevent unneeded updates
23:27.35CIA-17- Fix bug with new ItemType rules
23:27.46MikmaNargiddley: yay you're back!
23:28.01Nargiddley:D
23:28.05ZealotOnAStickI was wrong.
23:28.10Matrix110Tornhoof to enable TekSupport /ace2 load TekSupport its somehow LoD
23:28.18ZealotOnAStickI believe combo points are just enabled by default.  Where they are depends on the theme.
23:28.30BatosZealotOnAStick, ok thanks
23:28.30NargiddleyMikma, any bug reports for me ? :D
23:28.32ZealotOnAStickDo you have your buff/debuff display directly under the target?
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23:28.47MikmaNargiddley: nope, haven't been playing much, just coding my new barmod :)
23:29.07BatosZealotOnAStick, yes
23:29.10MikmaNargiddley: there was some errors but can't remember how i got them
23:29.15Nargiddleymmk, was expecting some when i got back but only found 2 more localizations done :D
23:29.22MikmaNargiddley: i deleted something, like default bag or so
23:29.50ZealotOnAStickthey're probably overallapping the combo points.
23:30.10ZealotOnAStickon ABF theme, the combo points are directly under the frame, starting at bottom right corner and growing to the left.
23:30.20BatosThat's the one i'm using yes
23:30.37BatosBut the combo points still doesn't show when there are no debuffs on the targetr
23:30.50ZealotOnAStickweird
23:31.05Batosyes..
23:31.17ZealotOnAStickgrennon: one of the things I miss from MailTo actually was being able to quickly shove stuff into a trade window.
23:31.44ZealotOnAStickmake it a configurable option for that, and default it to disabled perhaps?
23:31.52BatosZealotOnAStick, you have the latest version of agUF right? Which version is that?
23:32.03grennonor make a mod called "AltToAdd" that does that
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23:32.12ZealotOnAStick23745
23:32.23sbudafire: need TuiRaid data?
23:32.25grennonthat does the "alt click to add item to auction/trade/mail/etc"
23:32.31ZealotOnAStickSomething used to let me stick stuff in trade window with right-click.
23:32.35grennonits really out of place having that im a mailmod
23:32.38dafiresbu: always .9
23:32.39ZealotOnAStickThat doesn't work anymore in 2.0, I'm not sure what did it.
23:32.42grennonknow what i mean?
23:32.48grennonMailto Next does it
23:33.07sbunoooo
23:33.07ZealotOnAStickI miss it.  I accidentally used a freaking flask of supreme power on a level 9 mule.  :(
23:33.13break19zealot, auctioneer perhaps?
23:33.15sbudafire: wow crashed, data not saved :/
23:33.15nevcairiellol
23:33.21ZealotOnAStickNot auctioneer.  
23:33.21sbubwl -> firemaw...
23:33.22sbu*sigh*
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23:33.29dafireok .9
23:33.32ZealotOnAStickI've not had auctioneer enabled for anything except my AH mule for months.
23:33.59grennonan AltClickToAdd mod would be pretty small
23:34.06grennonlike 24 lines or so of code
23:34.13ZealotOnAStickor QuickTrader or something like that.
23:34.35ZealotOnAStickI'd use something along those lines.
23:34.39grennonwell, people got spoiled on ct_mailmod/mailto next adding to all those different non-mail frames
23:36.05ZealotOnAStickindeed.  There's a number of things I'd gotten so used to that I wasn't aware of/had forgotten a mod added it that's missing now.
23:36.10ZealotOnASticklike guild name/rank on inspect.
23:36.37ZealotOnAStickand the right-click functionality for trading and stuff.
23:36.45vinauris there a way to get what caused an error to occur? like if you try to loot something with full bags, could you get the name, id w/e of the item you were looting?
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23:37.03ZealotOnAStickThings that really ought to be a base option in the interface IMO.
23:37.04Matrix110AltClickToAdd should be a part of Wow!
23:37.15CIA-1703gagorian * r23790 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc ReadMe.txt):
23:37.15CIA-17DrDamage:
23:37.15CIA-17-Improved performance on actionbar text creation
23:37.32ZealotOnAStickAnyway, after dealing with the like 20 agUF threads now, I'm going to go take a break for a bit before my eyes bleed pixellated blood.
23:37.50BatosZealotOnAStick, it seems that the newest agUF isn't added to the ace updater.. weird..
23:37.57sbuDrDamage is sooo uber
23:38.13ZealotOnAStickBatos - what are you basing that on?
23:38.14andremaris it theorycraft?
23:38.34ZealotOnAStickIt's sort of a theorycraft lite just for casters.
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23:38.47Matrix110DrDamage is Theorycraft Light
23:38.55ZealotOnAStickanyway . . .
23:39.05Matrix110DrDamage ~200kbis TC2=2MBs
23:39.37BatosZealotOnAStick, I tried deleting my agUF folder and installing agUF again, using the ace updater and it installed the same version I had
23:39.42Matrix110thoguh TC2 has alot more features but imho most of them arent needed^^
23:39.43Batos23602
23:40.04BatosWhile the newest on wowace.com/files is 23745
23:40.20Tornhoof23745 it installed here
23:40.23andremarBatos: perhaps you are using a mirror for wau?
23:40.40KarlThePaganwow wtf warez bugsack
23:40.43Tornhoofdid you just select aguf as the single mod to update?
23:41.00Batosandremar, that might be.. hm, i'll check.
23:42.02Batosandremar, it's using "http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace"
23:42.18Tornhoofsee
23:42.21Tornhoofthat's wrong ;)
23:42.24Batos:D
23:42.29andremar:p
23:42.38andremarit will probably be updated soon though
23:42.46BatosYeah, just a bit annoying ;)
23:42.54|Kev|grid.13th is much faster than wowace, I find
23:43.04CIA-1703tornhoof * r23791 10Yata/ (Options.lua TotemButton.lua):
23:43.04CIA-17Yata:
23:43.04CIA-17- Typos
23:43.26|Kev|macaceupdater uses grid.13th too
23:43.31KarlThePagansomeone broke fubarplugin
23:43.34KarlThePagantoc
23:43.52Batos|Kev|, yes that might be.. but I'd rather have the latest one a little tiny bit faster :p
23:44.06Batos*slower
23:44.25Tornhoofyeh the mirror is a day or two out of date
23:44.26|Kev|well, certainly macaceupdater you can set to use http://www.wowace.com/files instead if you want
23:44.37|Kev|I assume the same is true of wowau and the java one
23:45.52KarlThePaganoh i understand now... libs have hard deps on each other
23:46.03CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r23792 10DKPmon/DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon: v2.0 - Added note field to ItemName ctrt-xml tag.
23:46.45nevcairielyeah, if you use one standalone, you need them all
23:47.50DeviadAny news for the ag uf bugs?
23:48.00ZOAS|AwayabitIsn't that pasta's site?
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23:48.20KarlThePaganyea 13thfloor is pasta
23:48.46ZOAS|AwayabitI wonder if he'd be happy about a bunch of aceupdater traffic there.
23:49.06andremarZOAS|Awayabit: he set it up for that use, amongst others I think
23:49.10|Kev|I used the url because the javaupdater did
23:49.21|Kev|I can always change back to wowace if people think I should
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23:50.08ThorgardMiles|zzz, ping
23:50.14Tornhoofadd some code to automatically select the best mirror ;)
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23:52.33CIA-1703renchap * r23793 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-frFR.lua: Bartender3: frFR locale update
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23:53.05JohnnyFive\MojoHow the hell do I cast spells these days :S and why did I start developing now?
23:55.46mjcgrid is leaking memory like insanity for me lately
23:56.12CIA-1703karlthepagan * r23794 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua:
23:56.12CIA-17Quixote:
23:56.12CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:56.26andremarmjc: hms, something is leaking for me too
23:56.33andremarlike 10-15k/s
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23:56.55KarlThePaganwith the new GC 10k isn't horrible
23:56.56mjcway more than that for me
23:57.04mjc500KB/s
23:57.12andremarKarlThePagan: it doesnt get GC'ed untill I do a forced one
23:57.13mjcif I disable grid it never goes above 20
23:57.25andremarohh, not having that here then :)
23:57.59KarlThePaganandremar, you mean the usage increase doesn't go down until you force a gc?
23:58.52KarlThePagani should check that out :)
23:58.52andremarKarlThePagan: no, the memory in use goes up up up

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