irclog2html for #wowace on 20061231

00:01.31Mikmahttp://www.anwarweb.net/saddamdown.wmv <- everyone can guess what this video is
00:01.52Mikmaquick info, he's alive at the start, at the end he's not.
00:02.02Mikmanow you can decide do you wanna look it or not :)
00:02.18grzesieqanyone using auctioneer?
00:02.38mjchttp://www.sanctuary-guild.org/index.php/topic,1849.msg19771.html#msg19771
00:02.41evlhanging saddam is fucked up
00:02.41Finhuh, fixing transparency in images is actually quite easy
00:02.43evleye for an eye politics
00:02.50evlgg USA making the world safer
00:02.54Mikmaevl: i must agree you on that one
00:02.56evlwe did that in norway back in the middleages
00:03.00evlit was called vikings
00:03.11Mikmayeah it's so... medieval :P
00:03.12grzesieq"good old times", eh?
00:03.16evlyes
00:03.20Amadeoevl: The US didn't hang him
00:03.25evlOh really?
00:03.56evlRight now the world would be a safer place WITHOUT the US
00:04.06evlnot by creating armies upon armies of enemies
00:04.14BankZany addons that let me move my cast bar?
00:04.15evlby stunts like this one :)
00:04.19evlBankZ: ocB
00:04.47grzesieqstrange, auctioneer seems to quit my wow when it ends the scan
00:04.55BankZI dont see ocB on the download page
00:05.26Mikmaevl: total world domination. that's the plan of Bush
00:06.38sylvanaarwhat is the strsplit syntax
00:07.17BankZevl: I dont see ocB on the download page
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00:07.39evlBankZ: oh, it's one of the removed addons, I'm not sure then :(
00:08.19AmadeoI'd like to know why people hate the US so much
00:08.57CIA-1703gagorian * r22794 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua):
00:08.57CIA-17DrDamage:
00:08.57CIA-17-Added exception for how Fire Power applies to pyroblast.
00:09.51Fisker-Amadeo basically because of the policies set forth from the US
00:10.30pastamancerAmadeo: because they hate freedom! :p
00:10.41AmadeoWhich of them specifically affect your quality of life in your own country?
00:11.09Fisker-Right now, probably nothing. But in the long run it could have severe effects on it
00:11.18Finsylvanaar: fixed the transparency, might need to adjust the colours a bit though
00:11.22Fisker-Also it has effects on the quality of lives of other people in other places of the world
00:11.26DrZootdoes anyone know where i can grab a torrent for the 2.0 to 2.0.3 patch?
00:11.34Fisker-Just because it doesn't happen here doesn't mean i should ignore it
00:11.53AmadeoFisker-: You mean the quality of life of the people who are attacking the US, killing thousands?
00:12.10XandBug with grid: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/whatsyoursteezo/grid.jpg
00:12.11DrZootWhos attacking the US?
00:12.16XandAnyone else getting that?
00:12.20Fisker-Noone in the Iraq has EVER attacked the US
00:12.23CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22795 10Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: indentation fix
00:14.37DrZootAre you american Amadeo?
00:14.46DrZoot(just out of interest)
00:15.13AmadeoYeah
00:15.22evlUhm, who has attacked US?
00:15.43Mikmaosama bin laden
00:15.48Mikmatherefore world must be dominated
00:15.54evlAha, good plan
00:16.07AmadeoEveryone remembers one event because it was recent, but many more things happen than that
00:16.11DrZootAnyone ever watched a movie called "loose change" ? its a documentary on 911
00:16.21evlLet's see, 1. WTC nuked 2k+ people die 2. invade x2 3. more terror than ever and 2k died in iraq
00:16.57DrZootThe US did cause 911 in an indirect way, youve really got the cia to blame for that one
00:17.01Amadeoevl: The war was a bad idea in general, but I don't see what's bad about protecting your country
00:17.04BankZevl: why would it be removed?
00:17.18Fisker-What threat did he pose Amadeo ?
00:17.24evlAmadeo: invading an oppressing two entire nations in retaliation is not protection, it's ridiciouls
00:17.27snurre-US wouldnt have been any less safe without attacking Iraq, quite the opposite
00:17.49evlHate breeds hate, it's an universal truth
00:17.52snurre-shouldve just "let it slide"
00:18.02Mikmaattacking other countrys in the name of protecting your own is not what i myself see as protecting
00:18.12snurre-it's warmongering
00:18.20AmadeoSo what is a country to do? Just allow everyone to come over and kill people here and let it all slide?
00:18.24Fisker-Nah it's obviously "Better safe than sorry" lol
00:18.29ckknightthis is not the right place to have this conversation...
00:18.31snurre-Amadeo: like you're doing to them, you mean?
00:18.38Fisker-Amadeo Iraq has still not attacked the US
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00:18.44Fisker-Osama bin laden and his henchmen did
00:18.56Mikmagief oil.
00:18.59Fisker-Coincidently i believe Osama actually dislikes Saddam quite a bit
00:19.00ckknightyea, but it was a good lead-in to attack Iraq with
00:19.10Fisker-So i can obviously see the connection there
00:19.11evlFisker-: yes becaus he refused an islamic state
00:19.49BankZAnyone else know a mod that lets me move the castbar?
00:19.59KirkburnoCB :)
00:20.23Quetzickknight: http://ace.pastey.net/4216
00:20.27evlAmadeo: Think about the ten thousands of civilians that have died because of the US's war on terror. How many lives must the world pay for each life lost in 911
00:21.14kebinusanWar on Terror will be just as successful as the war on drugs was
00:21.16CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22796 10Prat/Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: added _options auto option
00:21.20Mikma911 was bad, mmm'kay? going into a war was bad, mmm'kay?
00:21.34evlcan't we just like... get along? :D
00:21.34Mikmakebinusan: war on drugs was successful? :O
00:21.42grzesieqwtb auctioneer features in kci :(
00:21.44kebinusanmikma no, and thats my point
00:21.46kebinusan<PROTECTED>
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00:21.52Mikmakebinusan: yeah ;)
00:21.55BankZ<Kirkburn>: I cant find ocb on download page
00:22.06CIA-1703ckknight * r22797 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory-2.0 - fix nil bug
00:22.06KirkburnIt's on fuxsake.something
00:22.07MikmaBankZ: fuxsake.net
00:22.08GngskBankZ, fuxsake.net
00:22.12Kirkburn.net :)
00:22.26Mikmahaste: LOLOLOO U SUXX!!!
00:23.12kenlyricfuxyouto
00:23.38kenlyricif it's not on WAU, it might as well be cosmos!
00:25.12BankZok, im there, I am guessing its  otravi_CastingBar
00:25.18snurre-meh, i have to get up in 4.5h for work :(
00:25.21snurre-i dont wanna
00:25.25KirkburnBankZ, yep
00:25.26snurre-stupid people to deal with!
00:26.13KirkburnAaannd, I just fell down the stairs
00:26.25Mikmadid it hurt?
00:26.33KirkburnMy dad put his shoes on it, slipped feet forward
00:26.39KirkburnWell my back hurts :)
00:27.21Mikmawell, falling down the stairs is always a bad thign
00:27.38jkwmeh
00:27.39jkw[2006/12/31 00:40:27-107-x1]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn '!!Warmup' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()'.
00:27.42Mikmamany people are now in wheelchair because of them
00:27.43jkw><
00:27.57KirkburnI can walk, I think =)
00:28.10KirkburnI should ... uh ... have turned the light on
00:28.17jkwNo !BugSack errors this time tho, it's quite random it seems ^^
00:28.24Mikmawell can you still feel your legs?
00:28.27kebinusanjkw, its some addon tainting, something in ace2
00:28.34kebinusancause I get it from FuBar
00:28.37KirkburnOw! Yes.
00:29.12Mikmagood. my wife's parents drive a taxi geared with stuff to move wheelchairs around
00:29.28Mikmathey have a patient that did actually fall down the stairs while he was drunk as hell
00:29.39Kirkburn:-/
00:29.59jkw""Ace2 has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI. You can disable this addon and reload the UI."
00:30.05jkwEverytime I try to duel someone ..
00:30.08jkwQuite annoying
00:30.11KirkburnS'why I try not to get drunk much :/
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00:30.24Mikmahmm, patient = customer of course
00:30.26Kirkburnjkw, I know that some of those errors are being fixed by Blizz
00:30.28Mikmathey are not doctors ffs
00:30.31jkwDon't really know how to make a bugreport on it :S
00:31.18KirkburnI know that the pet Dismiss thing is being fixed, it probably includes the Duel option
00:31.22Mikmawell, disable aguf and bartender3 and test again :P
00:31.28jkwI update most of my addons from trunks, just to test them and try to help the developers. But when there is no error, it's quite hard to do a bugreport ^^
00:31.47jkwMikma, Nevah
00:31.49Kirkburnjkw, is that when you choose "Duel" from the menu?
00:31.56jkwKirkburn: Yes
00:32.02Mikmajkw: well disable them and retest duel
00:32.03jkwI'll try /duel
00:32.14KirkburnYeah, Blizz are gonna fix that
00:32.37KirkburnFor now you'll either have to do without or disable some addons
00:32.37Mikmamy friend was able to /duel after he disabled aguf and bartender3... but that's the reason why he doesn't duel much since he uses them both :D
00:33.00*** join/#wowace sky (n=sky@p85.212.139.103.tisdip.tiscali.de)
00:33.07jkwI never duel
00:33.09skygood evening
00:33.17jkwNoticed it now when I was going to annoy my gf
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00:33.42CIA-1703saroz * r22798 10sRaidFrames/ (7 files): sRaidFrames: Gift of Life in Babble-Spell now <3
00:33.47skyi got a question about my performance fu...it does garbace collections every 30seconds which result in small lags...how can i stop that?
00:34.09Mikmahttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=4462
00:34.12Mikmathat's some stupid item :D
00:34.25jkwbtw, /duel works fine
00:34.26Mikmaand notice it's dropped by rare :) my wife just got it
00:34.35jkwbut from the menu, it brings up that annoying message
00:34.41jkwso no need to disable bt3 or aguf
00:35.24jkwurgh
00:35.26jkwallakhazam
00:35.57jkwanyways, never seen that item
00:36.39XandBug with grid: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/whatsyoursteezo/grid.jpg
00:36.52XandAnyone else getting this?
00:37.26HjalteXand: it's a blizzard error..
00:37.38HjalteXand: The grid authors can't do anything about it
00:38.02skyplz help me :(
00:38.12kenlyricget those bugs, putem in a sack!
00:38.32jkwsky: I only get a tiny bit of lag when I do that myself
00:38.53jkwsky: When I "force" gc.. never per automatic.
00:40.01jkwQuestion: Anyone know a good ItemSync-look-alike that's not named *.LootLink.*? And does anyone know any nice in-game talent calculator? That's like the only addons I miss from the good old days :P
00:40.21ckknightcan someone extract WMOAreaTable.dbc from their MPQ and send it to me? it's probably in patch.mpq
00:41.01ckknightsky: PerformanceFu doesn't cause GC, it only tells you when it happens.
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00:42.00MikmaNargiddley: hi
00:42.19Nargiddleyhihi
00:43.08DrZootcan somone tell me if this is right, var = thing1 or thing 2 or thing3, that will work from left to right assigning the first var thats not nil right?
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00:43.26Kamerilright
00:43.30DrZootcheers
00:44.03CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22799 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/FontSize.lua): Prat: demo for auto options _options type
00:44.06sylvanaarFin: cool, i'll prolly look at it when i wake up
00:44.38BankZIs there anything that lets you move the default castbar?  oCB is fugly
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00:44.59beerkeeCB ?
00:45.04ckknightanyone who can extract the MPQ?
00:45.12beerkeeCastingBar worked allways perfectly for me
00:45.15ckknightI seriously need the WMOAreaTable.dbc file.
00:46.01nymbiackknight: i had some tools around.  i'll take a look after this bg
00:46.44Finsylvanaar: righto. sleep well.
00:46.57NeriakI've got WinMPQ installed .. whaddya need ckknight?
00:47.18ckknightWMOAreaTable.dbc, which is probably in patch.mpq somewhere
00:47.25Neriaksec
00:48.23BankZ<beerke>: I dont see eCB on the download page
00:49.10KirkburnoCB is fugly?
00:49.22Fin(not meaning to but in, sorry Neriak)
00:49.25KirkburnYou can alter every aspect of oCB you know? BG, colour, border, etc
00:49.28BankZvery fugly
00:49.56KirkburnYou have an odd concept of beauty
00:50.07BankZlooks like a 3rd grader drew something on my screen :/
00:50.18Neriakckknight: http://www.neriak.de/WMOAreaTable.dbc
00:50.19KirkburnOkay, now I *know* we're not talking about oCB
00:50.52ckknightNeriak: hrm, okay, that's not what I was looking for :-(
00:50.57Neriakckknight: hangon, it's still uploading .. 60%
00:51.46CIA-1703zeed * r22800 10BiGOpt/ (6 files):
00:51.46CIA-17BiGOpt:
00:51.46CIA-17- Renamed SubGroups class to BiGOptSubGroups
00:51.46CIA-17- Fixed a rare bug where the subgroups composition restoring algorithm went into an infinite loop, that sometimes happened when mixing "pickup" players with the saved raid
00:51.47CIA-17- Bumped to 0.3.1
00:51.48[dRaCo]oCB causes my sRaidFrames to behave weird :(
00:51.55Neriakckknight: done
00:52.05Mikmackknight: where do you need that file and how can you open it / use it? :)
00:52.17Neriakckknight: I can extract any data though, just tell me what you need.
00:52.37ckknightI need md5translate.trs :-P
00:52.38KirkburnBankZ, http://www.fuxsake.net/t21-otravi_CastingBar.html?
00:52.39MikmaNeriak: can you convert files from blp to tga too?
00:53.39sylvanaarFin: thanks by the way, i have been talking with Curney all day, is the only reason i havent gotten to it yet
00:53.43NeriakMikma: yes, I should
00:54.08NeriakMikma: oh wait .. blp is a blizzard format?
00:54.12CIA-1703zeed 070.3.1 * r22801 10BiGOpt/:
00:54.12CIA-17BiGOpt:
00:54.12CIA-17- Tagged 0.3.1
00:54.14MikmaNeriak: yeap
00:54.29Kirkburn[dRaCo], how?
00:54.38NeriakMikma: then the answer is no :)
00:54.43beerkeBankZ, ecb is not ace2 addon, check curse-gaming
00:55.05MikmaNeriak: well, pc has some programs to convert em which macs don't have
00:55.13[dRaCo]hard to describe... it somehow keeps sRaidFrames from adding the text and the colors to the raid frames
00:55.21[dRaCo]so there are just the textures left
00:55.22MikmaNeriak: last night someone in here converted some files for me, can't remember who.
00:55.36[dRaCo]took me a while to figure out which addon caused that ^^
00:55.39ckknightNeriak: can you get me md5translate.trs?
00:56.01Neriakckknight: search gives me no reslut :(
00:56.15Neriakresult
00:56.17ckknightNeriak: could be in another md5
00:56.22ckknightmpq*
00:56.26Neriakok, hangon
00:56.43Mikmackknight: you coding something?
00:56.48ckknightyes.
00:56.58Benumbedwhen is he not =x
00:57.02Mikmackknight: what? :)
00:57.10Mikmamisc.mpq\textures\Minimap\md5translate.trs
00:57.16MikmaNeriak: hope that can help you
00:57.19ckknightthat'd be it
00:57.46Mikmahttp://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php?title=TRS&printable=yes
00:58.31Mikmayoure doing something kinky with minimap
00:58.53Mikmayatlas support? :D
00:59.10ckknightsimilar
00:59.13ckknightinstances, though.
00:59.31Neriakthat damned WinMPQ almost fucks up on patch.mpq
00:59.41MikmaNeriak: misc.mpq
00:59.44NeriakI guess misc.mpg is in another mpq
00:59.45WobbleHappy New Year to y'all, (as I'm about to head off to a party =P)
00:59.57ckknightcya, Wobble
00:59.59NeriakI don't have any misc.mpq .. it's not there since 2.0.1
01:00.05ckknightNeriak: locale.mpq
01:00.08nymbiait'd be in common?
01:00.10nymbiamaybe?
01:00.15nevcairielthe file was probably updated in some patch
01:00.17ckknightor comon
01:00.17Neriakok ..searching
01:00.19ckknightcommon*
01:00.20nevcairielso it would be in patch.mpq
01:00.23MikmaWobble: remember to behave
01:00.23nevcairielor in common
01:00.25nevcairiel:D
01:00.43skyhi ckknight i got a problem with your performance fu
01:00.45Mikmahttp://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php/TRS
01:00.51MikmaThis file is commonly used to convert the minimap texture files in texture.mpq into the hashcode filenames (and vice-versa if needed) in texture.mpq (and patch.mpq).
01:00.59ckknightyes
01:01.06ckknightsky: I already answered you.
01:01.10ckknightsky: now scroll up.
01:01.24skyoh sry..just killed emeriss
01:02.06ckknightexcuses
01:02.31sky"PerformanceFu doesn't cause GC, it only tells you when it happens." okay and how to stop wow from doing garbage collections so often?
01:02.59ckknightstop using sucky mods.
01:03.03Mikmahah.
01:03.05ckknightoutside of that, I can't help you
01:03.32ckknightsky: also, lua 5.1 handles GC much differently
01:03.38ckknightsurprised you're feeling affects
01:03.48skyhmm..i'm just using ace addons
01:03.50ckknightsky: you wouldn't happen to be playing on a 1.12 server?
01:04.01ckknightor other pre-2.0 server
01:04.13sky1 exception...discord unitframes hacked..no normal blizz server
01:04.27ckknightyea, DUF would do that.
01:04.44Mikmahah!
01:04.44skyhmm...i need an alternative...tried ag unitframes
01:04.48ckknightor at least, it very well could
01:04.56ckknightI like agUF
01:04.59Neriakckknight: found it, uploading
01:05.07Matrix110<3 Nurfed
01:05.33Matrix110especially because you can edit them ingame
01:05.34ckknightugh, I can get the topleft x/y coordinate for the textures, but I can't get the width/height :-(
01:05.45Neriakckknight: http://www.neriak.de/md5translate.trs
01:06.10Neriakit was in patch.mpq\textures\minimap ..
01:07.19skyactually my ui looks like this
01:07.26skyhttp://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5763/blibpa7.jpg
01:07.32BankZyeah, its offical eCB > oCB
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01:08.01skyi need unitframes that give me the possibility to display so much information in the target frame
01:08.13Matrix110BankZ why?
01:08.15skysry for my bad english skills ;)
01:08.29BankZmore options, looks better
01:08.36Matrix110and 10x mem usage:P
01:08.48kenlyricand it also has an enemy casting bar.
01:09.02Matrix110good Unitframes have those integrated:P
01:09.11kenlyricyes... good ones...
01:09.21CIA-1703morgalm * r22802 10MorgBid/ (. MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc):
01:09.21CIA-17MorgBid: initial commit
01:09.21CIA-17-Allows MorgDKP to popup a query on users computers.
01:09.31kenlyricor you get a real casting bar mod, that does things liike enemy spell cooldowns :)
01:09.39kenlyricerrr, "real enemy casting bar mod"
01:09.55Matrix110sky what of those frames is your target?
01:10.10Matrix110or wait i got it
01:10.47Matrix110well the information thats get displayed is nothing special Oo almost every UF Mod displays that if its not minimalistic
01:11.06skythe one in the middle
01:11.15skyme target tot
01:12.01BankZso u guys like oCB better then eCB?
01:12.16skyhmm yeah because i'm targeting a player...but it shows informations like undead..critter  blabla
01:12.35kenlyricin a pinch, yes.
01:12.36Matrix110BankZ oCB just uses 1/10th of the memory of eCB and displays me the same castbar
01:12.52kenlyricthough I really don't like either, since they make me work to get them.
01:12.55Matrix110enemy castbar i got in my UFs or ill use NECB
01:13.51Matrix110though NECB is a bit bloated
01:13.58Matrix110so i stopped using it atleast atm
01:15.35skydo you have found an alternative? i'm using it too
01:16.09kenlyricI use antagonist.
01:16.20skywill try that
01:16.28Matrix110well i dont PvP that much and even if i do i dont need most of the functions of NECB
01:16.52kenlyrictracks cooldowns of enemy spells too, so you can see how long they have left before they can cast something.
01:17.06Matrix110Enemy Castbar war the only thing i realy used the rest is mostly not needed atleast imho
01:17.11kenlyricI like it for tracking HoTs to see if it's worth dispelling them.
01:17.26skyi need an addon to activate and deactivate my addons and reload the ui like i had it...something like loadit<< dont like that...could u recommend me one plz?
01:17.45nevcairielI still use MCP
01:17.46ag`<PROTECTED>
01:17.59BankZWhat buff mod do you guys like the best?
01:18.00ag`<PROTECTED>
01:18.05Finsky: MCPFu / MCP
01:18.11Mikmahttp://www.metku.net/mods/loginoki/screen_irc2.jpg
01:18.16skymcp..thats what i used...forgot the name ;) ty
01:18.21Matrix110i use the one integrated in Nurfed instead of MCP which i used before
01:19.43Yinchielol check this out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxXM8M01JFY fast food freestyle
01:19.46Benumbedag` needs to fix party pets/target so I can stop using nurfed imo =P
01:20.03ag`I might be able to in 2.0.3
01:20.04Matrix110BankZ buff mod as in helping to buff raid or buff mod as in displaying of the buff icons in another way?
01:20.13AmadeoMikma: How'd you get a picture of my mouse?
01:20.16Benumbedwhats the prob? they work in nurfed fine =x
01:20.33MikmaAmadeo: Mikma-O-Spy -cam i have installed in your room
01:20.51Benumbedeven pet casting bar shows up in nurfed
01:21.18AmadeoMikma: Damn, I don't even want to know what you've seen
01:21.32ThraeMmmm, what does everyone use to change the viewport?
01:21.46Gnarfoz_CT_ViewPort
01:21.52ThraeDoesn't that require the core?
01:21.55Gnarfoz_no
01:21.56Matrix110nope
01:22.00ThraeAh, OK.
01:22.06Gnarfoz_just like CT_mailmod doesnot
01:22.08Matrix110but use the hardcoded version of viewport or Skinner
01:22.09Benumbeddoesnt skinner have it built in also?
01:22.12MikmaAmadeo: *giggles* oh but i'm sure you don't even have to ;)
01:22.41Amadeohaha
01:23.01Matrix110CT_viewport uses quite alot memory and if you know the viewport already i would use the hardcoded version where you edit the values inside the .lua and it uses very little memory
01:23.28ThraeI'll try Skinner
01:24.24MikmaThrae: NOEEEEEEES!
01:24.25FinCT_Mailmod used to claim it didn't require the core but wouldn't work without it
01:24.44skyckknight i found the addon which caused it..was warmup
01:24.46ThraeMikma: What's wrong with Skinner?
01:25.09Matrix110Fin it 100% does work without core Oo
01:25.23MikmaThrae: it's pretty horrible :P
01:25.37MikmaThrae: we're trying to whip some speed to haste so he'll code oSkin
01:25.48ckknightsky: hrm, okay
01:26.24FinMatrix110: I haven't tried the latest version; but that's what it used to do
01:26.34hasteMikma: Syntax error.
01:26.57Mikmahaste: u suxx etc
01:27.10Matrix110iam using ct_mailmod since ~1 and a half year and never had CT_Core in my addons
01:27.12Ominousanyone else getting this error in bg/ Glory-2.0-22782 (GloryLib):1794: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil)
01:27.12hasteMikma: :--(
01:27.38beerkeAperture has same functionality as ctviewport, except it is command line
01:27.45Finmust've been something to do with my setup then
01:27.50Matrix110could be
01:27.55FinI've heard other people complain of the same thing, though
01:28.00Matrix110weird
01:28.07Matrix110a well now they can use Gmail
01:28.25Mikmaahahaaaa! http://www.allthemods.com/project.php?id=106 pimp my toyride
01:28.26Matrix110but ctmailmod is the best addon there is<3
01:28.43Matrix110and Igor's Mass Auction
01:28.53Matrix110couldnt live with them
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01:29.35Matrix110*without
01:30.17Ominoushaste any info on when an alfa/beta of oPoisons will be available?
01:30.58Finshame GMail disappeared
01:31.09hasteOminous: It changed name to Atropine :)
01:31.20Finoh
01:31.51Ominoushaste: any idea on when atrophine will be avaiable then :)
01:32.15Mikmahaste: WHAT?!?!? you abandoned the o-series?
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01:33.32hasteMikma: partly
01:33.48hasteOminous: well, there's a version on gcode, usable but not done
01:33.53kenlyricI really dislike when blood of heroes spawns 2 fallen heroes.
01:33.58Ominousohh k
01:34.32Ominousits a shame you have stopped using the ace svn
01:34.47ag`haste: I was wondering if that gcode project have read access?
01:34.51syerenMy new mouse is far too sensitive on the scroll wheel :(
01:35.00hasteag`: yes, everyone can do a checkout
01:35.16Ominoushaste: do you ahve a link to your gcode site
01:35.37hastehttp://code.google.com/p/wow-haste/
01:35.41Ominousty :)
01:37.36ag`oCB isn't on the gcode though :/
01:37.41ckknightgah
01:37.45ckknightthis is such a bitch
01:37.55ckknightI figured out how to get texture positions, but not texture sizes
01:38.05ckknightand I can't find any clues on how to do that
01:38.20ckknightbut DanG (of Atlas) knows how, but he won't tell me
01:38.34ag`he should grow up
01:38.40ag`seriously
01:39.00beerkelol server died
01:39.00Mikmaask Tekkub
01:39.09Tekkubmeh?
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01:39.51ckknightTekkub: DanG won't tell me his secretses
01:40.04KirkburnIt's his preciousssss
01:40.23Tekkubhe's a crossdresser named Lizzy
01:40.57Tekkubor rather, she
01:41.25ckknight?
01:41.26Mikmaahh, i knew we could trust on Tekkub
01:41.29KirkburnIt's her preciousssss
01:41.45ckknighthe has some way to get the width and height
01:41.50ckknightI can't figure it out
01:43.23syerenDoes anyone here have an MX Revolution :P?
01:43.28syerenI'm having a couple of problems :(
01:43.35TainI do, syeren
01:43.38KirkburnHow so?
01:43.46syerenA. Middle Mouse Button.
01:43.54syerenB. My Document Switch seems to have stopped working.
01:44.14xlviidoes anyone know the default width / heigh of candybar?
01:44.19TainMiddle mouse button as in clicking the school wheel?
01:44.24syerenI won't my middle mouse button to act as one in Firefox and WoW, I have set it to do so, but it isn't.
01:44.30syerenYes Tain.
01:44.34nymbiaxlvii: you asked that last night and got it answered.  16x200.
01:44.38TainI don't think you can.
01:44.42syerenAnd my document switch was working just fine a minute ago.
01:44.51xlviii did
01:44.55xlviithanks nymbia
01:44.55xlvii;D
01:44.55AmadeoSpeaking of mice, my MX510 is highly inaccurate, and I'd love to know why
01:44.59TainYou click the school wheel to unlock the wheel to go into free-wheel mode
01:45.04AmadeoEr, 518
01:45.15syerenI have a 518 here too.
01:45.17syerenMine's fine.
01:45.20syerenAnd I have an M5.
01:45.23TainI never used documenet switch though
01:45.23AmadeoMine skips pixels
01:45.26syerenBut 518 is better for the amount of buttons ;p
01:45.27KirkburnI have an MX1000
01:45.31Finhaste: emergency. broken link from gcode -> fuxsake.net ("oAddOns" -> fuxsake.net/i).
01:45.39Amadeosometimes it skips 2, sometimes 3, and rarely I can move pixel by pixel
01:45.43syerenAnd now I have this mouse which is over complicated O_o;
01:45.45TainBut I love the free spin mode of the MX Revolution.
01:45.53syerenYeah, it's sick :D
01:46.04syerenDoing so will sacrifice that precious middle click button many of us have grown to use on a daily basis. If you absolutely can't live without your middle click, you can disable manual mode switching in the SetPoint software and reassign the middle click to the scroll wheel.
01:46.04syerenNow, how is this scroll wheel in
01:46.14KirkburnI'm to bed. Cos *I'm* sick.
01:46.24hasteFin: that's me trying to use vim in a editbox in firefox :<
01:46.27TainSee I'm lucky I guess since I never used to the middle button to do anything.
01:46.30Kirkburn(hurt my back falling down the stairs, sympathy pwease! =)
01:46.31TainI don't like it.
01:46.40syerenMiddle Mouse button is my shield self key :p
01:46.42hastemost likely at least
01:46.45syerenAnd my Clique Shield other.
01:47.12Finhaste: well shit, credit for trying!
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01:47.14TainYeah I don't think you can assign it to anything with the Revolution because of how it works.
01:47.18hastehehe
01:47.36syerenI just don't understand how I made Document Switch stop working :/
01:47.52syerenAnd I'm yet to do anything useful with my G15 :/
01:47.58syerenApart from get my media display on Foobar.
01:48.15syerenAnd WoW displays utter useless information for me on it; Base stats!
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01:48.41Mikmahttp://metku.net/modgallery/images/4516_1.jpg
01:50.09TainThe WoW display for the G15 is nonsense.
01:50.13TainWorthless.
01:51.34Kemayosyeren: How'd you get the Foobar stuff set up?
01:52.11syerenTain, it would be awesome if they would allow the people in here access to make their mods for the thing.
01:52.11syeren:/
01:52.17syerenJust a second Kemayo.
01:52.23TainI just use LCDStudio for mine.
01:52.42syerenhttp://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t46360.html
01:52.50syerenThis one is a lot better ;p
01:53.56syerenWhat the hell, I have lost mouse button 4 and 5 due to my mouse?
01:53.59syerenEUGH.
01:54.09CIA-1703ag * r22803 10ag_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
01:54.09CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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01:54.09CIA-1703benumbed * r22804 10MusicStream/modules/Channels.lua: MusicStream:Will update tooltips when you add a skipped channel now.
01:54.35syerenAG, any chance you can add some Aura management to yoru frames :P?
01:54.36KemayoCool, thank syeren.
01:54.36Sarozwutr
01:54.48ilifinwhats musicstream
01:54.58syerenI don't like huge debuff/buff icons and no control over where they appear :p
01:54.58SarozI'm gonna use eCastingBar I think, oCB just doesnt cut it anymore
01:55.07HjalteKemayo: Any chance for an option to sort the quest tracker after quest level?
01:55.09TainLCDStudio still lets you do a lot more.
01:55.13ilifinreally Saroz ?
01:55.20ilifinecb failed on me so I went oCB
01:55.36SarozI used to use ecb
01:55.40syerenTain, I use Foobar because I have 213GB of music, and when I press >> in WMP it has a little delay.
01:55.44syerenWhere as Foobar doesn't.
01:55.48syerenSo foobar wins ;p
01:55.48SarozoCB is just...  well all o* mods don't have any development
01:55.49Sarozat all
01:56.10TainNo I mean for the LCD display panel.  You can still use Foobar.
01:56.36syerenSaroz, I would love if you could have a 20 second test bar to move your shit around and so on with OCB.
01:56.52syerenInsteading of having to do a 9.5 second Hearthstone cast ---
01:57.01Sarozwell that's small stuff
01:57.05Sarozit doesn't update fast enough
01:57.07SarozI mean, the bar
01:57.19Sarozit doesn't have a high enough update frequency
01:57.25ilifinI think that is clientside
01:57.29Sarozand sometimes when you get interupted, the spell keeps casting
01:57.36Sarozvery annoying in PVP
01:57.37ilifincasting has been very much broken since 2.0.1
01:58.07HjalteNargiddley: Do you think it is possible to either have an option to mark recent items in your bag as *new* or use it in a category? I often need to find some of the recent things that came to my bag, eg if i need to throw something out i just looted or so
01:58.10ilifincasting bar in default UI finishes, you get interrupted JUST as it finishes, you keep casting for 10 seconds and nothing happens
01:58.22Sarozwell, for instance
01:58.26ilifinI've kinda put my mage on hold cause of that
01:58.27hasteSaroz: no, that's a bug
01:58.45ThraeMmmm, what's a very simple mod to move the minimap around? SimpleMinimap sounds nice.
01:58.45Sarozcasting heal, 2½ seconds, get interupted at 1 second, and the bar continues to move untill 2½ seconds
01:59.20ag`CIA is MIA
01:59.21NargiddleyHjalte, might be possible. might take a bit of working out to get just new and not moved
01:59.50HjalteNargiddley: it'd be grand if you could figure it out and add it sometime :)
02:01.36SarozCIA-17 is slow
02:03.38syerenHjalte, Why don't you just use EngBags?
02:03.51syerenSo much better than anything Ace2 offers at the moment :/
02:04.02ckknightbecause it's a hog?
02:04.07usz4 updates pending from me, yet to be spammed by CIA
02:04.17ag`what is the name of the raid group namelist attribute?
02:04.20Hjaltesyeren: oO what ckknight said basically..
02:04.53Mikmahttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4134446112378047444 hahahaa
02:05.03Mikmackknight: you'll prolly like that video ;D
02:05.13Hjaltesyeren: and besides, you can tweak baggins to fit your needs exactly. Then engbags is no better.
02:05.25nymbiaoh Nargiddley -- when compress all is enabled, stuff currently equipped on your character gets lumped in.
02:05.45Nargiddleynymbia, hmm
02:05.51Nargiddleythats a weird one :/
02:06.24nymbiaNargiddley: yeah.  is that using GetItemCount()?
02:06.31Nargiddleyahh
02:06.32beerkelately i prefer arkinventory over engbags
02:06.38Nargiddleythat counts character as well D:
02:06.44Goebarkinventory works well for me
02:06.46Nargiddleythat i diddnt know about
02:06.51beerkeseems to work alot smoother and almost same functionality
02:07.00Goeband it's ace2 :)
02:07.14Nargiddleynymbia, i did find something about GetItemCount tho
02:07.14beerkeace2 does not mean much
02:07.25nymbiaNargiddley: yeah, it kinda confused me when it said i had two netherwind robes and boots in my inventory in addition to what i had equipped ;)
02:07.25NargiddleyGetItemCount(-1) = count of all items
02:07.36nymbiaNargiddley: ooh, interesting.
02:08.17ag`hrm
02:08.20ag`the secure raid header
02:08.24ag`can't it sort by class?
02:08.57Trooxhi, little question. can anyone tell if this is a bug of candybars, or how i fix these ... in the timeframe? http://troox.dyndns.org/wow/candy.jpg
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02:10.29nymbiackknight: here's a weird one- if i move my cursor very slowly over a map, the coords do not update until the mouse makes a faster movement.
02:10.38ckknightfunny
02:11.35beerkeTroox, that is what i miss in Capping tbh
02:11.45beerkebar timers till BG :)
02:12.04Trooxi think that it happens in raspawntimers from bigwigs, too
02:12.09beerkeanyways could just be that it is a font error
02:12.22beerkeas in, your font is to big and it makes ... from it
02:12.44Trooxright, but i'm using standartfonts... nothing else
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02:13.55syerenTain, is there any way in which I can make My back and foward buttons Mouse Button 4 / 5 like on every other mouse?
02:15.25HjalteNargiddley: Got this error when i entered "/sct menu" in my chat editbox and the sct menu popped up http://ace.pastey.net/4229
02:17.29NargiddleyHjalte, were you editing a rule at the time ?
02:17.29syerenLooks like BarTender lost it's keybinding via bar option?
02:17.37HjalteNargiddley: Nope
02:18.15HjalteNargiddley: Didnt have options or baggins itself open
02:18.27NargiddleyHjalte, thats a weird one :/
02:18.30Mikmasyeren: in Blizzards menu
02:18.38HjalteNargiddley: just did it again and got the same error
02:18.48syerenI know that much, I just liked setting them via the drop down ;p
02:20.33NargiddleyHjalte, /sct menu doesnt error for me
02:20.40KemayoWoot!  My first 60!
02:20.45HjalteNargiddley: Hmm. Strange indeed.
02:21.11HjalteKemayo: Grats. Now begin farm potions for raids with crazy leaders!
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02:21.43KemayoWell, I was thinking that I might just level my warlock alt until the expansion. :-P
02:21.44Ziconkemayo: Congratulations! :)
02:24.19Mikmahttp://metku.net/modgallery/detail.php?id=4487 :)
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02:28.00CIA-1703nargiddley * r22812 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua):
02:28.01CIA-17Baggins:
02:28.01CIA-17- counts on the fubar plugin can now be set to include ammo, soul or special bags and are coloured according to how full your bags are
02:28.01CIA-17- Mostly fix item counts on compressed buttons when the item is equipped, will still be 1 off if you have 2 equipped
02:30.19Hjaltenargiddley: I hope you dont mind feature requests.. So, here's another one :) Any chance to see some feature that lets us stack items? I used to use mrplow so I'm used to having stacked bags :)
02:31.15NargiddleyHjalte, i'l look into it but it'll be low priority for now
02:31.32HjalteNargiddley: sure, no problem. Thanks
02:32.59CIA-1703zeed * r22813 10BiGOpt/ (main.lua readme.txt):
02:32.59CIA-17BiGOpt:
02:32.59CIA-17- Changed the Main Assist selection algorithm, if more than one main assist is visible, then the closest (< 30 yards) one is chosen
02:33.46ag`my wow finally crashed
02:33.57ag`after around 100-200 /rl and 40 WSG matches
02:34.56jkwAntagonist bug: http://ooh.se/ui/WoWScrnShot_123106_024856.png
02:35.17jkw"Cast" refuses to dissapear ><
02:35.22jkwCasts*
02:35.40Ziconhjalte: I use MrPlow just for the stacking. Bound it to a hotkey, and do it everytime I'm low on bag space.
02:36.05HjalteZicon: I've thought of that too, but you know, one less addon is always good :)
02:36.08ThraeB -- Open OneBag. Shift+B -- TheWorks
02:36.24Thrae"Automatic Sort" is bulk.
02:36.27jkwag`: What are you working on now? ;p
02:36.53CIA-1703nargiddley * r22814 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Removed debug :Print(), oops
02:37.10ZiconAdding a stack command to any macros that involve items is helpful, too.
02:42.19ckknightwoot!
02:42.27nymbia?
02:42.27ckknightI have figured out how to find width/height of the textures
02:42.32nymbianice, how?
02:42.37Mikmahttp://www.rawfear.net/
02:42.49ckknightturns out, it's not in the WMOs at all, in-game, I can just create the texture with 0,0 size and then check it
02:42.54ckknightit'll give me the appropriate size back.
02:42.57nymbianeat
02:43.10ckknightwhich means there is no goddamn reason to store it in the database like he does!
02:43.12ckknightyays
02:43.16nymbia:D
02:43.31ckknightnow to rub it in his face.
02:43.36nymbiarofl
02:43.42hasteMikma: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2107860976834753426
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02:45.56Mikmahaste: which one of those are you?
02:46.02hasteMikma: none
02:46.37haste(I'm not french for that mattter)
02:46.37Mikmahaste: that's like, worse than b.
02:46.48Mikmait's ... h -class movie
02:47.12haste^^
02:47.14CIA-1703benumbed * r22815 10MusicStream/modules/ChannelAlert.lua: MusicStream:Fixed a possible bug
02:49.38ckknightnymbia: basically, I told him I figured out all the parts and that it would've gone a lot faster if he helped. So much for his newfound interest in the GPL, eh?
02:49.55nymbiackknight: lol :D
02:50.32ag`hey ckknight
02:50.39ag`tell me how you like the size of the default theme now
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02:50.42CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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02:50.49nymbiackknight: would now be a good time to request maps of the rest of the new TBC instances, then?
02:51.03ckknightnymbia: I'm gonna rig up a script to autogenerate all the maps.
02:51.09CIA-1703beerke * r22817 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.lua KingOfTheJungleUITabs.lua):
02:51.09CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
02:51.09CIA-17- Added option to select/deselect certain foods from pre-defined diets
02:51.10CIA-17- Added repeatable warning message when no food and pet is hungry, currently on 60s
02:51.10CIA-17- Added option to reset food db (/kotj resetdb)
02:51.19nymbiackknight: very cool. ;)
02:51.21Gnarfoz_ckknight to the rescue ;D
02:51.29Gnarfoz_amazing stuff, again
02:51.34ckknightnymbia: one thing is that I did it all in pure lua, so it's much easier than using his hackish C++/lua combo
02:51.52nymbiahaha, yeah.
02:52.06Gnarfoz_I envy the lots of coding experience you get through all this (nevermind the experience you already had to start with)
02:52.17ckknighthehe
02:52.31Mikmahttp://www.pulju.net/shop/product_details.php?p=1104 <- Doggy bag! :D
02:52.36ckknightnow I know how to pack and unpack using the IEEE 754 spec for both floats and doubles, Gnarfoz_
02:52.37ckknight;-)
02:52.54ckknightlittle-endian
02:53.09ckknightlol, Mikma
02:53.14Gnarfoz_the scary stuff is: I'd know where to look that up
02:53.20ckknightme too
02:53.21ckknightwikipedia.
02:53.22Gnarfoz_I won't, though
02:53.23Gnarfoz_;D
02:53.28Gnarfoz_got my mailserver to fix
02:53.38Gnarfoz_it seriously wants to ruin my weekend
02:53.51Mikmai'm || that close on ordering this alarmclock: http://www.pulju.net/shop/product_details.php?p=1108
02:54.11Gnarfoz_noes.
02:54.16Mikmathe whole idea is, that module starts to fly and goes into random location everytime :D
02:54.16nymbiadoes it hit you in the face?
02:54.20nymbiarofl
02:54.23Gnarfoz_don't tell me you understand finnish?
02:54.44Mikmayou'll have to find it and dock it back into the clock or it won't shut down the screaminh
02:54.52MikmaGnarfoz_: well, some of it since i'm finnish
02:54.55Gnarfoz_could have used someone who does for buying something from that shop a while ago... got it from canada instead >_<
02:55.05nymbiaMikma: rofl
02:55.15Gnarfoz_actually, a shop in my home country now sells it, anyway... too late :D
02:55.19jkwhaste: That movie was wicked!
02:55.41hastejkw: It's h-quality as Mikma said, but it's still entertaining :D
02:56.07Mikma:D
02:56.17Wogroiplhehe the adding of names to the raid group filters is almost what I was looking for :P
02:56.19jkwhaste: Yeah, the umbreally up the guys behind in the end was my favourite.
02:56.28hasteI would have to agree
02:58.53jkwSome kind of bugzilla feature would be lovely for trunks
02:59.03jkwOr is there any other handy way of bugreporting?
02:59.40hastelike http://wowace.com/trac ?
03:00.14ag`can anyone update aguf and tell me if it makes their wow explode?
03:00.39kenlyricthat frightens me.
03:00.51jkwag`: Just updated, I'll login and check before I sleep.
03:01.34Wogroiplit didn't
03:01.47FinI speak fluent Fin!
03:02.00Wogroiplbut I would still like to see the sorting by class ^^
03:03.05ag`didn't look like I was able to
03:03.07ag`sort it
03:03.18ag`maybe I will in 2.0.3, depends on what blizzard does
03:03.30ag`my advice is that you create different groups until then
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03:04.09jkwag`: No crash nor BuckSack error.
03:04.11WogroiplI did, but I kept moving them around because of differnent numbers for different raids :)
03:05.04WogroiplI wouldn't even go back to perfectraid if I couls sort that way :)
03:05.14syerenTo any of you with a Logitech MX Revolution, I found an amazing program for making it do a lot more things ;p
03:06.09FryGuyag: is there a bug report of adding a member to the group when you're in combat and it freaking out?
03:08.57beerkein PT, why is percentage based food not split out over the different diets. I am missing food calsses like ["Food - Bread Percent Health"] and ["Food - Meat Percent Health"]
03:09.00ag`yeah I know there's a bug with players joining in combat
03:09.10ag`but freak out how FryGuy ?
03:09.19FryGuyon TBC specifically
03:09.23FryGuyi don't know about on live
03:09.32FryGuybasically, just freezes the game for like 10-15 seconds
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03:15.35ckknightokay: regarding the new instance maps, is anything missing from Onyxia's Lair?
03:16.11nymbialemme look
03:20.24nymbiackknight: nope, it's all there
03:21.04ckknightnymbia: and deadmines is half-gone?
03:21.21nymbiayup
03:21.37nymbiawell
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03:21.52nymbiait's likely a different area as far as the minimap is concerned
03:22.05nymbiait's the part with the water and ship
03:22.09ckknightit's actually 4 different areas ;-)
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03:22.38nymbiajeez
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03:25.52ckknightokay, I got RFC and WC to autogenerate...
03:29.05ckknightand AQ40...
03:29.27grennonthe dungeon that blizzard wants to forget
03:29.46grennonmaybe you should leave it out, kinda help blizzard bury it some more
03:29.53ckknightgrennon: lol, why?
03:30.46jkwTime to get a few hours of sleep. Laters!
03:31.02grennonaq40 is a drain pretty much, and blizzard has never responded to the many calls for it to be made sustainable if you are learning new content at the same time
03:32.20grennonlearning a hard naxx boss when your over 7 bosses in, and trying to do aq40 on the same week is scheduling pain as well
03:32.22steinohttp://i.stein-ivar.net/ocb.png
03:32.35kenlyricgood thing none of them matter now :)
03:34.02grennonthe whole add gold to bosses, cut the trash, and make a shortcut thing, blizzard never really got
03:34.21grennonits not a winged instance, but a shortcut would have helped
03:35.07grennoni dont know if they fixed it, but pre 2.0 the ouro shortcut was broken once the instance 30 minute reset had gone off
03:35.33ThraeMmm, agUF no workie for me.
03:35.40grennonso if you killed ouro, you only had the shortcut to cthuns room for that night
03:36.00kenlyricmore optional bosses would be nice.
03:36.05ckknightag`_: does LBRS/UBRS look correct?
03:36.07Sarozlearning naxx 11 bosses in is also a fucking pain
03:36.25ag`_ckknight: I am in bed:(
03:36.42ckknightno you're not
03:36.47ckknightsomeone else want to help me?
03:37.05ag`_I were in LBRS today though
03:37.11ag`_it kept showing me the ubrs map
03:37.12WogroiplI wouldn't know how ;)
03:37.37ckknightWogroipl: do you raid?
03:37.54ckknightag`_: okay, I know the issue, then.
03:37.57Wogroipla bit, we have killed Razorgore a couple of times
03:38.10ag`_ckknight: yeah it's the same instance
03:40.06ckknightlol, here's MC's name on the backend: Blackrock_lower_guild
03:40.56Wogroipland BWL is Blackrock_upper_guild?
03:41.20ckknighthey, it is
03:41.34ckknightNaxx is Stratholme_raid
03:44.51Wogroiploff to bed now, cya
03:45.56FryGuyhmm
03:47.17ckknightwell, done all the maps I have already.
03:49.52FryGuyi wish otravi wasn't such a baby about moving his addons away :/
03:50.26FryGuymakes it ten times harder to find the newer versions of his stuff
03:50.46HjalteFryguy: www.fuxsake.net - that's not very hard :)
03:51.01FryGuywowaceupdater won't pick them up though
03:51.21HjalteNope, i know.
03:51.43FryGuyi need to figure out why it doesn't clear the bar on interruption
03:51.45Hjalteckknight: i can help with positioning some instance notes, if that is what you need help with?
03:52.05HjalteFryguy: That's a known bug.
03:54.18FryGuywell it's kind of annoying :(
03:55.01HjalteFryguy: Indeed. I've switched to ecastingbar.
03:55.38FryGuyis ecb better performing now than it used to be?
03:56.00HjalteFryguy: I don't know, but it performs fine for me.
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04:01.38ckknightHjalte: well, that will be a needed task
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04:04.15Aelielhm. anybody know if there's such a thing as a druidbar type thing (manabar for druids in forms) for ag_uf? I switched to ag_uf today and now my interface looks nifty, with the exception of old ugly clunky solid blue druidbar. :|
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04:05.27hasteFryGuy: because oCB didn't use SPELLCAST_STOP
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04:19.19mjcBW just tried to tell someones pet that it had the plague
04:20.05ilifinwell if it did, you can't blame it
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04:30.58JoshBork1haste spoke!
04:31.10hasteI speak quite often imo
04:31.21Gnarfoz_does it use it now, then?
04:31.29CIA-1703benumbed * r22820 10MusicStream/modules/ (ChannelImport.lua PlayCustom.lua): MusicStream:Fixed import error
04:31.31Gnarfoz_(just to continue on that point)
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04:32.23ThorgardAeliel, make sure to get auf_barfader just for the sexyness.
04:33.03Gnarfoz_auf barfader kind of goes a weird approach for what it does
04:33.06Gnarfoz_imho :D
04:33.13ilifinit kind of confuses you imo
04:33.26ThorgardI love it. ;P
04:33.30ilifinfading your hp out, oh wait did I get healed OH LOSING HP AGAIN no wait
04:33.36Gnarfoz_and personally, I'd very much like the "glide" animation, can't get it to work, though
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04:34.21mjc~seen takadi
04:34.46purltakadi <n=takadi@ip68-105-190-195.dc.dc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 5h 22m 56s ago, saying: 'Soulless: the lack of updates has been due to dealing with some stuff IRL and because I'm converting most of the button stuff to be a library :)'.
04:35.18ThorgardHow weird.. I just bought a new rank of a spell.. and it's automagically updated to the new rank from the old rank on my actionbar. Is that something new? :/
04:35.30jaeteyes
04:35.39jaetein 2.0
04:35.40Thorgardo rly?
04:35.53ThorgardDidn't know that.
04:37.02ilifinhow does musicstream work
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04:38.35mjcilifin: I don't know if it even works anymore
04:38.37CIA-1703kameril * r22821 10BA3_SpellAbilities/SpellAbilities.lua: BA3_SpellAbilities: -added helpful tooltips to options
04:38.39mjcit wouldn't work for me recently
04:38.43mjcBA3?
04:38.53Gngskbar announce 3
04:38.55GngskI think
04:38.58ilifinoh
04:38.59Kamerilyup
04:39.09ilifinmjc - why is it being updated then
04:40.10Kamerilmusicstream thread: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3824.0
04:41.15ilifinyea but it kinda tells me nothing
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04:41.19ilifindoes it require some external app?
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04:41.23ilifindoes it at all work on mac?
04:41.24Benumbedno
04:41.28Benumbedyes
04:41.43ilifinhow, hitting play does nothing :<
04:41.56CIA-1703Skycatcher * r22822 10Visor2/Visor2.toc: Visor2: - Touch to update externals.
04:41.57Benumbedis your music volume up? it uses warcrafts music volume
04:42.11ilifinyea I'm hearing IF music at the moment
04:43.12Benumbedshould work on mac, unless I am missing something =x
04:43.46ilifinit uses an mp3 stream right?
04:43.54Benumbedyea
04:45.02ilifinas far as I can tell, it's doing nothing
04:45.12Benumbedtry /script PlayMusic(http://64.236.98.50:80/stream/1014);
04:45.15Benumbedsee if anything plays
04:45.27ilifinsilence
04:45.35mjcthey patched it then
04:45.43Benumbedno it still works, just not on mac
04:45.53hastethe odds are rather large that it's not the same C function on ma
04:45.54hastec
04:46.20ilifin:/
04:46.42Benumbedtry /script PlaySoundFile(http://64.236.98.50:80/stream/1014);
04:47.08Benumbedwarning if you do that tho, you will have to relog to stop the music heh
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04:47.19ilifindoes nothing
04:47.26Benumbedmac must have different calls
04:47.33mjcno
04:47.37mjcit worked on my mac previously
04:47.51Benumbedwell it still works on windoes
04:47.53Benumbedwindows
04:48.45ilifinactually
04:48.47mjcyou can just ctrl-s or cmd-s to turn the music off
04:48.52ilifinI'm getting an error when I did that play command
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04:49.12ilifinhttp://ace.pastey.net/4235
04:49.23mjcilifin: put quotes around the url
04:49.27mjc"http...blkasdflads"
04:49.55ilifinstill nothing
04:49.57ilifinno error tho
04:50.11mjcmake sure "play music" is enabled under sound
04:50.32ilifinEnable Music is on yea
04:50.32Benumbedweird that it wouldnt work on mac but in windows if it worked before
04:50.36ilifinI'm hearing the annoying IF music
04:52.12Benumbedtry to play that url in w/e player mac has =x
04:52.26ilifinhaha
04:52.27ilifinsec then
04:52.34Benumbeddunno crap about mac
04:52.58ilifinhttp://64.236.98.50:80/stream/1014 works
04:53.03ilifinlistening to if in iTunes now
04:53.06ilifinit*
04:53.28Benumbedmjc, when did it stop working? last patch?
04:53.35mjcno, it started working then
04:53.45mjcworks on windows you're right
04:53.58Benumbedyeah I been playing it all day while recoding heh
04:54.19ilifinI'll try relog, logged in with music off
04:54.25Benumbedplaymusic is blizzards function so if it dont work with just that command, dunno what I can do
04:54.50ilifinusually aren't any differences in the clients apart from rendering
04:56.05Benumbed./script PlayMusic("http://64.236.98.50:80/stream/1014"); <-- you tried with quotes also right?
04:56.18ilifinyea
04:56.31Benumbedno clue then
04:58.22ilifinI'm sure it would work if there was any API for streaming music in OS X
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04:58.43ilifinbut since it kind of isn't, it would need to call upon QuickTime for that
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04:59.42ThraeAnyone play a Feral Druid?
05:00.54JoshBork1spell penetration = spell hit?
05:01.16nymbianope
05:01.24ThraeMmm, my Mangle + Cower macro turned into "ManCow"
05:01.26JoshBork1spell hit = HIT_SPELL_RATING?
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05:02.09ilifinanyway we can conclude it doesn't work, Benumbed, tried it on my laptop too
05:02.26ilifinthen again the OS X client has keybindings for controlling iTunes ingame, so the mod is a bit of an overflow
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05:03.42CIA-1703sayclub * r22824 10FuBar_RLAssistFu/Localization.lua:
05:03.42CIA-17FuBar_RLAssistFu:
05:03.43CIA-17- Added locals koKR
05:05.32CIA-1703nirek * r22825 10Evpsets/libs/: Evpsets: Somehow missed an external
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05:20.45Aelielrofl, ManCow. should keep -that- in mind for if I ever make a Mangle+Cower macro myself
05:24.14mjclol
05:24.51Aelielthough my druid isn't male or a cow, so it loses part of the funny (or gains, depending on your point of view :p)
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05:27.36mjcmine is both
05:35.53Fisker-i'm up again ckknight if you still need it
05:35.59Gnarfoz_<ilifin> then again the OS X client has keybindings for controlling iTunes ingame, so the mod is a bit of an overflow <-- many players on windows support global hotkeys (they work everywhere, even in wow), anyway :D people just don't seem to know :D
05:36.12Gnarfoz_Fisker-: I think he figured it all out, already :D
05:36.15ilifinyea Gnarfoz_
05:36.26ilifinbut they don't show a special frame inside WoW with progress bar on the tune etc
05:36.31ilifinas part of your interface
05:36.32ilifin:p
05:36.33Fisker-alright :P
05:36.49Fisker-being danish is serious business :P
05:37.16ilifinbeing norwegian and not having gone to bed yet is even more serious
05:37.20CIA-1703rophy 07Rophy * r22827 10ParserLib/Parser-2.0/Parser-2.0.lua:
05:37.20CIA-17Parser-2.0:
05:37.20CIA-17- LoadEverything() will nil out the LoD functions for GC.
05:37.20CIA-17- Added ValidatePatternInfo() (unfinished).
05:37.27Gnarfoz_ilifin: german here, same timezone :D
05:37.40Gnarfoz_should probably get some sleep before new year's eve party ;|
05:37.51Fisker-same :(
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05:38.06Gnarfoz_but, my mailserver seems to work :D
05:38.31Gnarfoz_now I just have to make up my mind if I want to use SysCP or ISPConfig :\
05:38.48CIA-1703nirek * r22828 10Evpsets/Evpsets.toc: Evpsets: wtb AceEvent
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05:42.47Fisker-Can anyone else access the /b/ section of 4chan?
05:43.55Tem|AFKare you a /b/tard?
05:44.06Fisker-perhaaaps
05:44.40Tem|AFKI heard /b/ was closed
05:44.46Tem|AFKsomething about AIIDS
05:45.15Fisker-Was the pool closed?
05:45.43hasteJesus christs it's a lion, get in the car!
05:45.49Fisker-:O
05:46.19Gnarfoz_>_< new server, same domain as before; updated DNS 6 hours ago... recieved the first spam mail already
05:46.20Gnarfoz_;D
05:46.27Fisker-i'm gonna rape my provider if it turns out it's banned
05:46.43hasteI could do a: mudah da! mudah mudah mudah mudah mudah! za warudo! tokio tomore! road rollar da! wryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
05:47.33Fisker-So could anyone else get on the /b/ boards?
05:48.07hasteyes
05:48.15hastethey work, but they are mighty slow
05:48.45Fisker-slow as in minutes or slow as in some seconds?
05:49.13Tem|AFKtits or gtfo?
05:49.15hasteseconds
05:49.46Fisker-oh god :(
05:49.51Fisker-mine doesn't load at all
05:49.58Fisker-but everything else than /b/ does
05:50.20hastenot to be a party pooper, but /b/ is it's own server
05:51.07Fisker-yeah well if it loads for you?
05:51.36hasteif you're banned by 4chan you get a nice page telling you that you are :)
05:51.52hastemight be your dns tho'
05:52.32Fisker-doesn't appear like it
05:52.53hasteip do you get if you ping it?
05:53.15Fisker-yup
05:56.03CIA-1703rophy 07Rophy * r22830 10ParserLib/Parser-2.0/Parser-2.0.lua:
05:56.03CIA-17Parser-2.0:
05:56.03CIA-17- File format converted to UTF8.
05:56.03CIA-17- Start parsing trailers from the end of the matching pattern.
05:56.03CIA-17- Added trailer test to TestPatterns().
05:57.11Fisker-this is weird
05:57.20Fisker-what is your ip on img.4chan.org ?
05:57.49haste66.207.165.178
05:58.09Fisker-This makes absolutely no sense
05:58.23Fisker-With my packet sniffer it appears as like i never even try to contact the server
05:59.39Fisker-something is going on and when i find out it's raep time :o
06:00.05Gngskwhat exactly is 4chan?
06:00.08Gngskjust boards?
06:00.58Fisker-known as shithole of the internet
06:02.14hasteGngsk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan :)
06:03.16Gngskword
06:04.05Fisker-Anyways i had to *shudder* start up some firefox and then it worked
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06:05.34Fisker-remember them k-pop channels
06:07.31Benumbeddiaf
06:08.02Fisker-I have died in a fire, is this awesome? y/n
06:08.03Benumbedhow do you update svn:externals .. need to add one and getting error
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06:21.18CIA-17DrDamage:
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06:27.19vid`hmm, manufac broken atm?
06:27.24vid`cant make anything from the menu
06:36.21BenumbedFisker, still got those k-pop channels handy?
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06:50.42nymbiai dunno, lemme look
06:59.45nymbiavid`: all 3 creates are workin for me.  got any errors?
07:01.34vid`yea sec
07:01.56vid`reenabling it
07:02.50vid`http://ace.pastey.net/4242
07:04.55vid`if i turn off money summary it works
07:05.01vid`maybe its one of my other addons
07:05.06vid`like auctioneer
07:06.31vid`whatever though its a sweet addon
07:11.20nymbiayeah, kill money summary with the alpha auctioneer, the data format's off
07:11.37nymbiaand i can't really adjust to it til their data format's a little more solid
07:14.38vid`ahhh k
07:21.11ckknighthey all
07:21.12ckknightback
07:21.40nymbiahey ckknight
07:21.42ckknightwent and saw "Pursuit of Happyness"
07:21.55ckknighthonestly, wasn't that good
07:23.03ckknightlol, DanG finally got back to me
07:23.08ckknightsent me his c++ code
07:23.14ckknighttotally useless now.
07:23.32nymbiahahaha
07:24.05grennonmy wife wants to see a matinee of happiness tomorrow
07:24.08ckknightmy response: You are way too late, hate to be a dick and everything, but this would've been useful a week ago before I figured it all out.
07:24.18nymbiarofl ckknight
07:24.20ckknightgrennon: it could've been done a lot better.
07:24.23grennonid rather dip my nuts in honey and teabag a fireant hill than see that movie
07:24.43Benumbedlol
07:24.48grennonbut its either that or "we are marshall"
07:24.54CIA-1703rophy * r22834 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (10 files): SimpleUnitFrames: initial commit - adds HP/MP to the default unit frames.
07:24.58ckknightgrennon: well, tell your wife that I said it was bad.
07:25.01grennonboth "uplifting" holiday releases
07:25.14ckknightHappyness is nowhere near uplifting.
07:25.19grennontrying to get a bunch of mails in my inbox to test "Open All"
07:25.20ckknightit's depressing the whole way through
07:25.26ckknightthen the last 2 minutes he gets the job
07:25.28ckknightbig surprise
07:25.50nymbiagrennon: just send a bunch of stuff to an alt and bounce it back
07:26.56ckknightI'm still bitter regarding DanG...
07:27.08ckknightgranted, my solution is now much nicer than his (imho)
07:27.25nymbiaand you got the satisfaction of finding it yourself ;)
07:27.28ckknightfor I have both a working rotation algorithm as well as a dynamic placement and scaling algorithm
07:27.35ThraeHey, is there an easier way in 2.0 to tell if you're in a BG or not? I'm still evaluating GetRealZoneText().
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07:27.38grennonwell, theres some design issues im thinking about
07:27.55Funkeh`hey guys
07:27.58grennonim thinking postal should trigger events like POSTAL_MAIL_SKIPPED and POSTAL_MAIL_PURGED
07:28.00nymbiasup Funkeh`
07:28.17grennonthat way the OpenALL mod or OpenSelected mods just listen for those events
07:28.43ckknightgrennon: Ace2 events don't work that way
07:28.53ckknightplease read the AceEvent-2.0 wiki regarding event naming
07:29.03ckknight<PROTECTED>
07:29.08grennoni read aceevent wiki the other day
07:29.09ckknightand Postal10_MailPurged
07:29.18grennonneed to go back and read it again
07:29.26grennonbut im definitely thinking events
07:29.29ckknightAce events don't look like blizzard events for a reason
07:29.36ckknightgrennon: events make things much nicer
07:29.49grennonwell, with mail and a mail lib, it seems best
07:30.37grennonfor instance, with a mail from a person with an item, you need to make sure the inbox has updated and theres 1 less spot taken in inventory before you process the next mail
07:31.00grennonso the lib handles all the nasty part and the mod just gets a nice "all done" type message to get the go ahead
07:31.23CIA-1703thrae * r22835 10VitalWatch/ (VitalWatch.lua VitalWatch.toc libs/): VitalWatch -- I live. I was missing this myself for 2.0, so I removed the aggro stuff (which never worked right anyway) and updated the TOC. Tests fine solo.
07:31.25ckknightsounds good
07:31.43CIA-1703thrae * r22836 10VitalWatchOptions/ (VitalWatchOptions.lua VitalWatchOptions.toc): VitalWatchOptions -- Updated for VitalWatch 2.0 BTS.
07:32.13grennonive been reading mailchecker and ah_mailcollect, the gymnastics you do to verify mail is done processing are daunting
07:39.17ckknightyes.
07:42.53CIA-1703gagorian * r22837 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua):
07:42.53CIA-17DrDamage:
07:42.53CIA-17-Pyroblast coefficients changed... again. Added a few more calculation options.
07:44.50ThorgardGagorian, any more classes supported in DrDamage? ;P
07:47.17Antiar2screiously, screw WSG hackers up the butt with a rusty ice pick.
07:48.30CIA-1703shadmar * r22838 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua: GridStatusHots : Added num to string conversion due to change in Grid
07:49.40Funkeh`new aura system on agUF is lookin' sexy
07:49.50ThraeGrrr I can't find a BLP Viewer.
07:49.58GagorianThorgard: Shaman, warlock, mage, priest.. and druid in a few days maybe :p
07:50.17Gnarfoz_I heard XnView has BLP support integrated (or was that only BLP1?)
07:51.55Funkeh`erf
07:52.04Funkeh`did they change the name of the world map minimap buton
07:52.41Funkeh`i have it set MiniMapWorldMapButton:Hide() but its showing
07:53.27ThraeGnarfoz_: That did it, thanks
07:53.36Gnarfoz_hth
07:53.37pastamancerThrae: I don't know of a better way to determine if you're in a BG :(
07:56.11Nargiddleypastamancer, 2nd return from IsInInstance() is "pvp" for bg's from memory
07:56.22pastamanceroh?
07:56.44pastamancerI guess I'll go check
07:57.04Nargiddleynot sure if thats for the arena as well
07:57.17pastamancerI don't care about arenas
07:57.19Thraewowwiki confirms, yep. Arena is "None"
07:57.39Thraes/"N/"n/
07:59.34pastamancersweet
08:01.29CIA-1703nymbia * r22839 10Capping/Capping.toc: Capping: Fixed typo in X-Category
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08:05.02pastamancerI can't wait to move all this code out of Grid and into RosterLib
08:05.02CIA-1703rophy * r22840 10FuBar_DPS/ (. FuBar_DPS.lua FuBar_DPS.toc): FuBar_DPS - removed CompostLib.
08:05.38sylvanaarwhat'd i miss
08:06.17nymbiasylvanaar: that hack space supposed to be making it all the way to my chat? ;)
08:07.08pastamancerhttp://ace.pastey.net/4245
08:08.55DrZootdamn my java heritage, everytime i write code i have to fight the urge to make objects for everything
08:09.57pastamancerthere's nothing wrong with objects
08:11.09ThraeDrZoot: See AceOO
08:14.35sylvanaarnymbia: negative
08:15.30CIA-1703jayhawk * r22841 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/:
08:15.30CIA-17FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
08:15.30CIA-17- trying to commit SVN properties
08:16.01sylvanaarnymbia: can you make a copychat of it with debug postevent dump on
08:16.16nymbiasylvanaar: sure, one sec
08:16.33CIA-1703thrae * r22842 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- Updated CheckInBG for 2.0, added FubarPlugin icon.
08:17.13CIA-1703jayhawk * r22843 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt/ (5 files):
08:17.13CIA-17FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt:
08:17.13CIA-17- added click color and trying to commit SVN properties
08:18.17DrZootOh I know about AceOO, and I agree that objects are good but I have a tendancy to make objects for every single piece of functionality that I can, it ends up being counter productive
08:19.52ckknighthrm, quite
08:20.26ckknightoh, I need help
08:20.41ckknightsomeone please tell me if Naxx is rotated correctly in the most recent Cartographer
08:20.45ckknightI can't tell
08:20.57Funkeh`yes
08:21.00Funkeh`i think
08:21.01Funkeh`1 sec
08:21.10ckknightFunkeh`: also, is everything there or is it missing anything?
08:21.27Funkeh`yes its rotyated
08:21.29nymbiasylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/4246
08:21.30Funkeh`correctly
08:21.37Funkeh`but its missing frostwyrm like i stated
08:21.47ckknightwhat's that?
08:22.03nymbiathe little seperate area with sapphiron and kelthuzad
08:22.03Funkeh`where sapphiron and let'thuzad live
08:22.08Funkeh`meh
08:22.19Funkeh`my spelling hurts
08:22.28ckknighthrm
08:22.32Funkeh`it used to be located at the bottom right hand side of the map
08:24.06CIA-1703ckknight * r22844 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceMaps.lua:
08:24.06CIA-17Cartographer-InstanceMaps - changed how mapdata is handled and parsed.
08:24.06CIA-17Added dynamic scaling and centering.
08:24.10ckknightplease test
08:24.14ckknightno new maps yet
08:24.22Funkeh`sure
08:25.17KarlThePaganLFG mod is coming!
08:25.17KarlThePaganhttp://www.nightelfcollective.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1483
08:27.17ThraeI'm wetting my pants in anticipation.
08:27.25ThraeOh wait, that's probably the diet soda.
08:27.43Funkeh`lol
08:28.46ckknighthehe
08:28.48ckknighturination.
08:29.13CIA-1703nargiddley * r22845 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
08:29.13CIA-17Baggins:
08:29.13CIA-17- Added PeriodicTable set browser to the pt set rule editor, based on code from PT2Broswer by Nymbia
08:29.13CIA-17- Rules are no longer applied as they are edited to reduce lag when editing, they are applied now when category editor is closed
08:29.13CIA-17- Added apply button to the category editor
08:29.22Thraecurse-gaming.com update account information: "Invalid URL, www.wowace.com"
08:29.32Thrae...Oh wait, I have to add a http://
08:29.52nymbiaNargiddley: awesome :D
08:29.59KarlThePaganI've hooked the blizzard UI so i can post my own queries, set player LFG/LFM and intercept ones using the default UI so I can gather the lists better and not interfere with manual user LFG requests
08:30.13Funkeh`ckknight: works ok, anything in particular to test?
08:30.21ckknightFunkeh`: no
08:30.26Nargiddleynymbia, reworked the browser quite a bit, shows 30 things at a time so shouldnt overload the screen
08:30.31ckknightFunkeh`: just to make sure it doesn't look horrid
08:30.56nymbiaNargiddley: hm.. using tablet?
08:31.12Funkeh`ckknight: theres a little 1 second lag spike sometimes when changing to one that is generated
08:31.42Nargiddleynymbia, nope dewdrop. Used your code to build a table with the sets and wrote a function to dewdrop that
08:32.22nymbiaNargiddley: ah, cool
08:32.23ckknightFunkeh`: yea, that's unhelpable.
08:32.55Funkeh`ckknight: ok, apart from that its np
08:33.29nymbiaNargiddley: throwing it all up there like browser does doesnt work well right now since dewdrop's mousewheel scroll is broke *poke ckknight*
08:33.40ckknightnymbia: I am busy, stop bugging me about it.
08:33.59ckknightI don't like it when people do that
08:34.04ckknightwhen they can clearly tell that I'm busy.
08:34.35nymbiackknight: ok, sorry
08:34.35ckknightFunkeh`: tell me, do the Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj look right?
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08:35.29ckknightanyone can answer that, actually
08:35.33fireglowhello
08:35.45ckknightfor what the map shows now, are the Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj like what shows in the minimap?
08:36.51nymbiackknight: need to update and relog, one sec
08:37.02sylvanaarnymbia: i dont see what could cause that. maybe turn debugging on in UrlCopy for some added info
08:37.11Gnarfoz_go go kernel build
08:37.15Gnarfoz_I need sleep
08:37.16Gnarfoz_:\
08:37.24Funkeh`erm
08:37.27nymbiasylvanaar: ok
08:37.29Funkeh`yes
08:37.37Funkeh`no, that doesn;t look like its generated
08:38.16ckknightFunkeh`: does it looks more like a dark green/brown thing?
08:38.26Funkeh`it looks like the blp did before
08:38.37ckknightI don't know what that means.
08:38.59ckknightwhatever, I'm just saying cause the new generated one looks totally different
08:39.08ckknightlike a dark green thing
08:40.33nymbiackknight: the new one looks great
08:40.47Funkeh`it means
08:40.54Funkeh`it *looks* like its not generating
08:41.03Funkeh`it *looks* like its still reading the old map file
08:41.07ckknightnymbia: I haven't committed it.
08:41.20nymbiathat would explain it, then.
08:41.31ckknightI'm asking you now, again, does it look like what it looks like when you go into the instance?
08:41.41ckknightor should it look like a dark green thing?
08:41.57Funkeh`ooh
08:42.00nymbiathe current texture? it's correct.
08:42.06Funkeh`i haven't been in AQ20 in a while
08:42.15Funkeh`but yes it looks familiar to me
08:42.28ckknightdamn
08:42.42nymbiayou got a dark green thing?
08:43.42CIA-1703jayhawk * r22846 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc PetInfoFu.lua):
08:43.42CIA-17FuBar_PetInfoFu:
08:43.42CIA-17- hopefully fixed strange icon problem
08:44.01ckknightokay, tell me what this is:
08:44.06KarlThePaganGrouper fubar buttons & states - http://www.nightelfcollective.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=1484
08:44.13ckknighthttp://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1572/screenshot123006224247gb7.jpg
08:44.21Gnarfoz_sunken temple
08:44.31Gnarfoz_in mighty good quality, I might add oO
08:44.47nymbiackknight: that's sunken temple
08:44.52ckknightokay
08:45.00Funkeh`lol
08:45.02Funkeh`yes
08:45.06Funkeh`i havne't been there in a while
08:45.12Gnarfoz_not aq20 ^^
08:45.12Funkeh`but i can tell you thats not aq20 xD
08:45.15KarlThePagani get lost every freakin time
08:45.42Gnarfoz_I went there only once, and only with one of my 2 60s... freaky place
08:47.05CIA-1703jayhawk * r22847 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc:
08:47.05CIA-17FuBar_PetInfoFu:
08:47.05CIA-17- updated properties
08:47.37Funkeh`that temple of atal hakakr pic is also missing the lower level
08:47.43Funkeh`but its included in he current comit
08:47.49Funkeh`the*
08:48.25CIA-1703jayhawk * r22848 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/FuBar_SkillsPlusFu.toc:
08:48.25CIA-17FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
08:48.25CIA-17- added revision property
08:49.43CIA-1703jayhawk * r22849 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt/FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt.toc:
08:49.43CIA-17FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt:
08:49.43CIA-17- added revision property
08:50.19ckknightFunkeh`: hrm, okay
08:50.36Gnarfoz_that's not easy to do on the fly, I guess? ^^
08:50.54ckknightno
08:51.12ckknightokay, I can't figure out where the AQ20 maps are
08:51.44Funkeh`maps plural?
08:53.24ckknighttextures.
08:54.00sylvanaari finally looked at the surfaces code - we need that for sounds
08:54.51nymbiackknight: probably under 'ahn'qiraj' of some varient or other, then aq40'd be temple of ahn'qiraj.
08:55.01ckknightit's not
08:55.11Funkeh`its either the ruins of ahn'qiraj
08:55.13ckknightnot that I can tell
08:55.15sylvanaarruins of, temple of
08:55.16Funkeh`or ruins of ahn'qiraj
08:55.24nymbiackknight: hmm.  still got the link to that translations file?
08:55.56sylvanaarbut you will be in Ahn Quaraj when you are in the ruins
08:56.25ckknighthttp://www.neriak.de/md5translate.trs
08:56.47Gnarfoz_like... the first, right at the top? is not aq20?
08:56.48Gnarfoz_oO
08:57.32ckknightno
08:57.38ckknightgo down to the dungeon part
08:57.45Gnarfoz_yeah I see it
08:57.48Gnarfoz_only AhnQiraj there
08:57.53Gnarfoz_KL_* anyway
08:58.13CIA-1703shadmar * r22850 10GridLayoutForHealers/ (. GridLayoutForHealers.lua GridLayoutForHealers.toc): GridLayoutForHealers : Inital
08:58.28Gnarfoz_weird
09:00.51ckknightmisspelled initial
09:01.17nymbiackknight: FrostWyrm_Final for that naxx thing
09:01.33ckknightnymbia: might be complicated to overlay...
09:01.49nymbiayou can jsut stick it in the corner
09:01.53CIA-1703shadmar * r22851 10GridLayoutForHealers/GridLayoutForHealers.toc: GridLayoutForHealers : Small fix
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09:03.38ckknightnymbia: there is no corner, just arbitrary numbers.
09:04.15nymbiackknight: ah.
09:05.34Funkeh`pastamancer: ping
09:07.20ckknightanyone know what LD_DragonIsles could be?
09:07.29pastamancerFunkeh`: eh?
09:08.34Funkeh`is there any way to stop grid from spamming the channel with sync messages when stunned somwhow? being a priest i tend to whack the button like mad, if theres someone oos or im stunned etc, it will start healing for a second before canceling, and sending a sync message
09:09.34Funkeh`ckknight: expansion stuff afaik?
09:09.58pastamancerhmm, it would have to use a timer
09:11.36CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22852 10HatTrick/ (Core.lua HatTrick.toc): HatTrick: updated to 2.0
09:14.41ckknightanyone know what Scholomance could be?
09:14.53pastamancerSchoolOfNecromancy
09:14.57pastamanceror something like that
09:15.30ckknighthrm, that's not in a dungeon part...
09:15.33Funkeh`whats development
09:16.18Funkeh`pastamancer: as in timer before sending the message?
09:16.29pastamancerFunkeh`: yes
09:16.43nymbiackknight: sure isnt.  SchoolofNecromancy
09:17.12nymbiackknight: there's an external area but there's too many textures there for that to be all the external stuff
09:18.41Funkeh`ckknight: MonasteryInstances ?
09:18.47ckknightwhat would Blacktemple be?
09:18.50ckknightFunkeh`: that's SM
09:18.58Funkeh`all of it?
09:19.08Daemonablactemple is a shadowmoon instance
09:19.11nymbiablacktemple's in shadowmoon valley
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09:19.39ckknightthis is such a bitch...
09:20.00ckknightI'm gonna commit what I have
09:20.09ckknightas well as my script
09:20.14ckknightwhere would I put my script?
09:20.42nymbiackknight: give that first entry in the file a try for the AQ20 map.  it was originally an external area so it may not be in /Dungeon/
09:20.43Daemonajust put it in as .script.txt?
09:20.44Funkeh`ckknight: /hug
09:21.18ckknightDaemona: thoroughly doesn't help
09:21.23Funkeh`az_subway?
09:21.26Funkeh`wtf? :P
09:21.26nymbiackknight: maybe just stick it in a branch somewhere?
09:21.36ckknightyea, maybe
09:21.56ThraeI'm missing a good, minimalist party frames. I'm using KC_Mobility + Grid right now.
09:22.50HajitorusFunkeh`: On the Stormwind Tram, undead always Eat Fresh.
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09:23.41Funkeh`ckknight: cryptschool?
09:23.44ckknightscrew it, I'm just gonna stick it in Cartographer/Scripts
09:23.45CIA-1703nymbia * r22853 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: GrindStatus: Speed up throttle for BAG_UPDATE events. Add display for rep gained this session to Dewdrop.
09:24.14Funkeh`for scholo
09:24.43nevcairielSchoolOfNecromancy is Scholomance
09:27.16ckknightyea, it's not CryptSchool
09:27.18nymbiackknight: looks like a number of things got left at root, not in the dungeons.  Zul'gurub, ZulAman..
09:28.19CIA-1703nargiddley * r22854 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Add ItemID to the tooltip of items when the Category editor is open
09:30.53Finsylvanaar: are the icons working?
09:31.07CIA-1703ckknight * r22855 10Cartographer/ (Modules/InstanceMaps.lua Scripts/ Scripts/pack.lua):
09:31.07CIA-17Cartographer-InstanceMaps - added pack.lua script, used to create instance maps data.
09:31.08CIA-17Added more instances. Some may be off, rotated wrongly, etc.
09:31.13ckknightalright, plztest
09:31.25ckknightfeel free to alter pack.lua to get it to work better.
09:34.20Ominoushaste: are you here ?
09:35.04hasteOminous: I am
09:35.10nevcairielUpper Blackrock Spire shows the Blackrock Deeps map
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09:35.31Ominoushaste where can i get a copy of DongleStub whihc Atropine needs
09:35.49nevcairielor wait
09:36.04hasteOminous: http://code.google.com/p/dongle/
09:36.11nevcairielno its not, but something is weird :D
09:36.19Ominoushaste: ty
09:36.24ckknightnevcairiel: feel free to hack it.
09:37.05nevcairieli was confused, because it shows the blackrock as well, the stuff outside the instance :)
09:37.16Ominouswhat exactly is dongle?
09:37.46axxoall the note icons are in the wrong position now tho
09:37.52ckknightit's a competitive framework, Ominous
09:38.42axxoand takes 5seconds to load :)
09:39.04ckknightaxxo: it has to fetch like 20 textures instead of 1.
09:40.35axxolbrs give blackrock depths map
09:40.37Funkeh`ckknight: RFD needs moved down a bit
09:40.43Funkeh`its cramped into the top left
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09:40.48ckknightFunkeh`: yea, I saw that
09:41.02ckknightthat's actually an issue with the textures themselves
09:41.07ckknightand I don't want bugreports
09:41.12ckknightI want people to hack on it themselves.
09:41.22Ominoushaste: are you going to base all your addons on dongle now
09:41.39ckknightugh, dongle ftl
09:41.44Funkeh`also BWL seems somewhat confusing the way it overlaps
09:41.44hasteOminous: depends
09:41.50Funkeh`oh
09:41.56axxocool, the enitre dire maul ::)
09:45.22Ominoushaste does Atrophine take items iin your bag into account
09:46.04hasteOminous: Buy: only reagents, Refill: both
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09:58.55hanzzonckknight; still no update seen on the Cartographer_Import on wowace.com/files :(
10:00.28CIA-1703ckknight * r22856 10Cartographer_Import/Import.lua: Cartographer_Import - added more minerals
10:00.53Ominouswould table = not table and {} make the table a table if it wasent already? ie the same as if not table then table = {} end
10:01.07hanzzonthnx, still only see r21752 on wowace though
10:01.35nevcairieltable = table or {}
10:01.36ckknightbad, Ominous
10:01.47ckknightstill icky, nevcairiel
10:01.55ckknightit's cheaper to use a full if statement.
10:02.00Ominousk
10:02.07ckknightsince you won't do an unnecessary assignment
10:04.27Hajitorusgah, either mrplow or i threw away my philosopher's stone; i think i know which one is far more likely
10:04.46nevcairielyou?
10:05.30hasteI don't think MrPlow can destroy items, as it shifts them around only
10:06.03HajitorusYeah.
10:06.11HajitorusDon't worry, I don't blame mods first. :P
10:06.42HajitorusJust weird when I did a bank stack and got a whole bunch of free space and no new slots used in the bank.
10:07.33nevcairielhehe
10:08.12Hajitorusprobably got it confused for a globe of water :-\  but <3 mrplow :P
10:09.06HealthHappy new year on cristams island! heh
10:11.25CIA-1703ckknight * r22857 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer-LookNFeel - don't show the minimap button needlessly
10:12.40hanzzonckknight; you had not needed to add that section, because the "old" names where totally wrong... it should have been replaced with the names I gave you ;-)
10:12.51CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22858 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: frFR fix
10:14.40ckknighthanzzon: whatever.
10:15.02hanzzonckknight; guess it does not really matter though
10:15.12CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22859 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
10:15.12CIA-17Babble-2.2:
10:15.13CIA-17- BZ-2.2: koKR fixes
10:15.50ckknighthanzzon: yea, it doesn't
10:17.27hanzzonI once saw someone post here that they had changed Cartographer_Import to look for the Gatherer.lua file in it's own addon folder, so you did not have to have Gatherer running, anyone know where that version is?
10:19.12ckknighthanzzon: just add it to the TOC.
10:21.12hanzzonckknight; how?
10:21.46ckknightopen TOC.
10:21.48ckknightadd line.
10:22.56hanzzonckknight; yea, but what should I add? :P
10:23.08ckknightcopy the Import.lua line
10:23.12ckknightchange it to Gatherer.lua
10:23.55hanzzonahh, as simple as that, thnx
10:24.24ckknightgotta restart WoW before change takes effect
10:25.05hanzzonwas thinking of making a small readme file for cartographer_import, would you be interested in incorporating that?
10:25.30ckknightsure
10:25.34ckknightget an SVN account.
10:27.39hanzzonok, will, worked wonders to do the import like that... much simpler ;-)
10:28.34hanzzonbtw, have you looked into the bug where the herbs/ores in Darkshore all get crammed into the minimap? and they also "follow" you ont he minimap :P seen it reported by many people...
10:29.39hasteThrae: Do you have any plans for TinyTip?
10:30.13Hajitorushanzzon: have you tried moving your .sv out of the way and seeing if it recurs?
10:30.41hanzzonHajitorus; yes, and it does...
10:30.55hanzzonthe flightpath icon also moves on the minimap...
10:31.24hanzzonand when I picked a new herb with my empty database it started following me on the minimap right away ;-)
10:32.21hasteuhm...
10:32.30hasteYou can stay on your mount in the liquid in UC
10:33.04nymbiahaste: they made it shallower
10:33.21sylvanaarFin im not quite there
10:34.21CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22860 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
10:34.21CIA-17Babble-2.2:
10:34.21CIA-17- BS-2.2 deDE update
10:34.48ckknightyou know what there needs to be more of in the wowace community? peer review of addons
10:35.33nymbiackknight: maybe that could be set up in the wiki somehow?
10:36.03ckknighthrm, maybe a wiki with like a bunch of "Ace coding tips" could be useful
10:36.22ckknightlike a Dos and Don'ts deal
10:36.35nymbiaNO SEMICOLONS
10:36.43ckknightevery now and again I audit someone else's mod
10:36.51nymbiabut seriously yeah, that could be handy.
10:37.07nymbia:)
10:37.10hastenymbia: they're optional, why force people to change style?
10:37.26nymbiahaste: joking :)
10:37.57grennonthats all i need is an easier way for people to tell me that i suck
10:38.00hastenymbia: http://xrl.us/t3nn << shallow water btw :)
10:38.15hastethink my mount is drowning there
10:38.22grennonjeez, theres this one dude that sends me emails with lists of all the extra whitespaces in miminalist
10:38.28nevcairiellol
10:38.45nymbiahaste: jeez that is deep.  i heard they also increased the depth mounts could go without dismounting -- but that seems like a bit much, lol
10:39.03nymbiagrennon: hahaha
10:39.16hanzzonBlizzard should learn that horses actually can swim....
10:39.26grennonnot with all that armor on the epic ones
10:39.41hanzzonyou can help to swim also ;-)
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10:39.55grennonhowever, my original black epic nightsaber should be able to swim and get upgraded with wings in expansion
10:40.00ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
10:40.24grennonmost of the people with original epic nightsabers on my server have moved on
10:40.44grennonso now when i sit on mine in IF i have people asking me where i got it all the time
10:41.01nymbiahaha yeah
10:41.08ckknightwhenever someone asks a general coding question, a tip should be added.
10:41.15CIA-1703funkydude * r22861 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: add Eye of Sulfuras and Essence of the Firelord
10:41.19grennonit also looks kickass when im sitting there in my dreadnought pieces
10:41.20nymbiai know of only a couple people who still have original epics on my server.
10:41.21grennonheheheh
10:41.39kebinusanaguf seems a bit bjorked for me when in a raid
10:44.27sylvanaarcan we make purl make a note for us
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10:45.24nymbiapurl, note for sylvanaar is <reply> sylvanaar, be reminded of something!
10:45.36purlokay, nymbia
10:45.36haste~haste
10:45.38purla very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
10:45.44nymbia~note for sylvanaar
10:45.45purlsylvanaar, be reminded of something!
10:45.46sylvanaar~sylvanaar
10:45.47purlACTION screams No!
10:47.06sylvanaarNo i mean that purl would make a note on a "log page" of the wiki, so when soomeone asks a question we can ~noob <name> remember stupid question
10:47.23nymbiahaha
10:47.34sylvanaar~bugz
10:47.36purlit has been said that bugz is "Does this happen on the lastest version? What version are you using?"
10:48.15Daemonathe only original epic mount owner i know on my server is this troll hunter with the white raptor ^^
10:48.38grennonyeah, its bad when the only original epic mount is one thats horrible
10:48.52nymbiamost people traded them in the day they could.  morons..
10:49.13grennondude, a guy on my server traded in his nightsaber and his kicked himself on the ass every day since
10:49.42CIA-1703funkydude * r22862 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: add base of atiesh, head of atiesh
10:49.43Daemonayou know whats worse?
10:49.49grennonthen he ground pvp to get the black pvp cat, and instead got a very grey tiger with big purple gems on it
10:49.57Daemonai went back to standard epic mount from my pvp mount
10:50.04Daemonacause anyone runs around with pvp mounts
10:50.39nymbiai should have a damn black bug but i was a week late on my scepter :(
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10:52.24grennonthe scepter run was fun
10:52.40grennoni think my guild is going to summon eranikus during the chinese new year for shits and giggles
10:52.45nymbiahaha
10:52.55grennonwe have a guy with the stuff to summon eranikus
10:53.20grennonor we might do it the last night before expansion as a fun thing to do
10:53.22nymbiahardest part of the whole damn questline.  fragments.
10:53.41grennonthat and when it went in, weavil would crash the server
10:54.10grennoneranikus is so scripted that its buggy, it bugged out 4 times on us
10:54.10nymbiayeah
10:54.28nymbiaeranikus is a pain in the ass.
10:55.24grennonsummoning him there when every nub is doing the "moon festival" quests will be fun :-)
10:55.38nymbiaseriously.
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11:01.51Nargiddleyhapy new year everyone :D, just ticked over here
11:02.47Kodewulfhappy new year... i'm still 2 hours away... :)
11:03.10kebinusanis there a fishing buddyish mod on the svn?
11:03.13ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
11:03.19kebinusansomething to allow me to click on the water and cast
11:03.56HajitorusThat doesn't even work in FBuddy anymore.
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11:05.28hanzzonno, I miss that too... and fishing contest in just 2 hours ;-)
11:06.00kebinusanbummer
11:06.20kebinusanguess I can just bind the fishing thing to mouse2 for the time being or something
11:06.54Hajitorusz, so it's near shift for quickloot
11:06.58grollfishing buddy has been updated with a beta with quick cast
11:07.01hanzzon"EASY CAST IS BACK! Well, sort of. A double-right-click in the beta version will cast. It probably still needs some clean up, but it's at working temporarily. Let me know if you run into trouble with it..."
11:08.10Hajitorusyuk
11:09.50Hajitorusweird timing tho, i'm in azshara levelling fishing :p
11:10.03hanzzonhehe
11:11.14CIA-1703ammo * r22863 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar-2.0: give the timertext a bit more width solves the 59:.. times that show sometimes.
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11:18.38hastenow you fix it :p
11:18.48hastewonder when the first time i complined about that was :D
11:19.49Finsylvanaar: righto
11:20.35[Ammo]hmmm
11:20.44[Ammo]cartographer_noteshare spams my guildmates with whispers
11:20.44*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everyone should get !BugGrabber and BugSack | People commiting to your addon? Ask us to lock it down! Need svn access? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com (Don't forget to include your USERNAME!) | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
11:20.53[Ammo]why does it not use the addon channel
11:20.54[Ammo]stupid app
11:21.03ckknight[Ammo]: it doesn't.
11:21.13ckknightit doesn't whisper
11:21.18ckknightit uses the addon channel
11:21.28ckknightthe thing is, you're informed when you receive a note
11:21.39ckknightso that can cause the chat log to be spammed
11:21.51[Ammo]aha
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11:22.00[Ammo]then my guildmates are bonkers
11:22.27ckknightlikely
11:22.37ckknightyou can turn off the spam, btw
11:23.13[Ammo]can you?
11:23.14[Ammo]where?
11:23.19[Ammo]couldn't find the option quickly
11:23.20ckknightat least, I think so
11:23.27ckknightkagaro may have put the option in.
11:23.31ckknighthe said he was going to
11:23.52[Ammo]'show chat notification' ?
11:23.55[Ammo]in the 'notes' section
11:24.03[Ammo]or is that something different
11:25.21nymbiathat should be it
11:26.16Kodewulfckknight: is it possible to change the distances in carto from yards to metres?  i had a look but couldn't find an option.
11:26.48ckknightKodewulf: it should show meters for you foreigners
11:26.53ckknightwhere does it not?
11:27.24CIA-1703dorje * r22864 10MSBTCooldowns/ (MSBTCooldowns.lua MSBTCooldowns.toc):
11:27.24CIA-17MSBTCooldowns
11:27.24CIA-17- Fixed message format bug. I really need to slow down :D
11:27.56Kodewulfckknight: on the worldmap and on the notes.  i'm using the US client, i'm in australia. don't know if that makes a difference... :)
11:28.07ckknightoh
11:28.29ckknightKodewulf: in the game, does it show spell range in yards or meters?
11:29.05nymbiaKodewulf: if you're using an enUS client, then EVERYTHING is in yards, why wouldnt the display there be?
11:29.05Kodewulfckknight... never noticed... :) let me check quick...
11:29.10nevcairielenUS and enGB clients show yards, all other meter, afaik. doesnt matter where you are :D
11:31.44Hajitorus.au clients see yards
11:32.21nymbiatechnically speaking, there is no au client
11:32.57sylvanaar`Spoon
11:33.04sylvanaar`Spoon
11:33.12Kodewulfyep... yards in AU client...
11:33.55Kodewulfi know BetterWayPoints have an option to show metres instead... but the author is probably calculating it on the fly then...
11:33.58Hajitorusi meant clients as in the meat-clad folk what press buttons :P
11:36.18nevcairielmeters and yards are the same values in the clients
11:36.20nevcairieljust renamed
11:36.57Kodewulf|Awayaaahhh... never knew that...
11:38.17Fisker-<PROTECTED>
11:38.44Fisker-Saddam.Execution.PROPER.DVDRIP-HANGUCUNT
11:38.47Fisker-lolololol
11:39.52Elkanodvdrip? zomg ;)
11:42.28CIA-1703nargiddley * r22865 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua):
11:42.28CIA-17Baggins:
11:42.28CIA-17- Added Item Name rule type, matches names containing the string given
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12:11.13Matrix110Oo my IRC client is strange
12:12.58odtFisker-: it's a crappy cameraphone
12:13.15odt2 min clip that shows saddam maybe for a couple of secs
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12:32.22Grinemorning
12:33.32Wogroiplg'morning :)
12:41.20BankZHeya guys
12:41.27BankZIs Elkano around?
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12:50.34Daemona~seen Elkano
12:50.56purlelkano is currently on #wowi-lounge (3h 15m 41s) #wowace (3h 15m 41s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 11m 4s, last said: 'dvdrip? zomg ;)'.
12:50.56Elkanohmm?
12:51.17BankZI was asking about ya :)
12:51.22BankZlove the EBB addon
12:51.53BankZtake enhancement requests?
12:53.49Daemonadoubt he does requets, i guess listening to suggestions though :D
12:55.29CIA-1703usz * r22866 10TooltipExchange/Core.lua:
12:55.29CIA-17TooltipExchange
12:55.30CIA-17- Improved LoD modules/item packs support
12:55.42BankZ:)
12:55.49BankZtwo things I would love to see
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12:56.22BankZhave an option to let it fade left to right and disable the names on the bar
12:56.27BankZthen it would be perfect
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12:59.08kebinusanIt should support surfacelib or something for the bar texture imo, I always end up copying my favorite texture over BarTexture.tga
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13:02.19BankZu have a work around for yours :/
13:02.41Fisker-so do you :)
13:02.44Fisker-program it!
13:02.44Fisker-:D
13:03.58BankZI guess I could hack his
13:06.09kebinusansame Ive thought about poking a bit
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13:07.44Elkanowell, EBB is considered feature complete, but EBBs will have a lot more features ^^
13:07.58Elkanobut fading from left to right is sth I wasn't able to do, yet
13:08.12BankZebbs doesnt work, right?
13:10.48Elkanowell, atm, ebbs is only a design addon showing what will be possible later
13:12.12BankZahhh, so why are you hear chatting?  :)
13:15.55BankZwhat are we paying you for?  :)
13:16.47axxoi don't think he got his last check
13:17.09BankZits in the mail
13:29.09Kodewulf|AwayHappy new year from Melbourne... :)
13:31.29CIA-1703nargiddley * r22867 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua):
13:31.30CIA-17Baggins:
13:31.30CIA-17- Move all strings into localization
13:31.30CIA-17- Better default bags and categories
13:31.30CIA-17- Added scale option
13:34.13mjcmoo
13:35.49kebinusancan you do a macro that does modifier:shift use trinket /cast blah
13:36.33Nargiddleyuse a trinket in a slot, or a specific trinket ?
13:37.09axxokebinusan: /use tinketname
13:37.14axxoor the slotid
13:37.50kebinusanyeah Im looking to have the macro only do the so   /use [modifier:shift] blah  /cast Shadowbolt should work
13:38.06kebinusanhmm I'll try it
13:38.09Nargiddleyyeah that works
13:38.59Nargiddleyprobably need /stopcasting between them
13:39.20kebinusank
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13:46.49CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22868 10Prat/Prat/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Prat: Codw hss a bug on load. Too tired to fix now. Be back later
13:48.02Tornhoofapparently too tired to hit the right buttons ;)
13:49.57mjcyep
13:51.27mjc8.5M    Comix
13:51.39mjc7.6M    Cartographer
13:51.43mjcgotta love graphics and sound
13:51.45mjc:)
13:52.01mjc~seen moonsorrow
13:52.21purlmoonsorrow <~root@ns.tts.ro> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 795d 6h 4m 41s ago, saying: 'hello... i'm having a problem with calls from h323 side to SIP side... it segfaults my asterisk and i found almost no solution on google and newsgroups... any ideas ?'.
13:52.22mjcnot that cartographer's on-disk size means anything
13:52.34mjchahaha
13:55.44nevcairielFtH|eagle = moonsorrow
13:57.10mjcaha
13:57.13mjcFtH|eagle: ping
13:57.18kebinusanwhats comix?
13:57.31mjcoo
13:57.38mjca really fun addon
13:58.04mjchttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3656
13:58.54Wogroipland totally useless ;)
13:59.18mjcit's fun... who gives
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14:00.05mjchey Tekkub
14:00.21Tekkub:P
14:00.40mjchow goes.
14:01.08mjc~seen kergoth
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14:01.16mjcnot that he has any reason to be up at 6am
14:01.45Wogroiplerm its 3pm :P
14:01.54mjcPST ?
14:01.59Wogroiplaye
14:03.00mjcPST is GMT-0900
14:03.17Wogroiploh, I thought it was Paris :P
14:03.22mjcnope
14:03.30WogroiplI am GMT+0100
14:03.31SoLoRP as pacific
14:03.36SoLoRright?
14:03.36mjcyeah
14:04.25mjcyeah well I'm GMT+1337
14:04.39kebinusancan you have a macro only do /stopcasting if a modifier is held down
14:05.09Nargiddley/stopcasting [modifier:shift]
14:05.11Nargiddleyshould work
14:05.58mjcmacros are for noobs
14:06.01mjcas are action bars
14:06.15mjcI  /cast Frost Bolt every time!
14:06.33FtH|eaglemjc: pong
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14:06.42mjcXArt rocks, but..
14:07.06mjcit would be nice if there were actual frames where the button indents are, or something like that, to make it easier to align them
14:07.21mjcor if it could attach those textures to your existing bar mod(s)
14:07.39mjchttp://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=338990081&context=photostream&size=o
14:07.55mjcbartender3, 70%, 1px padding
14:08.04mjcand autobar just erm. looks like crap for this instance
14:08.45FtH|eagleit would be too complicated to adjust every available bar mod
14:08.53mjccyCircled already did that work
14:09.16mjcand it's Sairen's baby
14:09.18mjc:P
14:10.17FtH|eaglereally?
14:10.27mjcyeah
14:10.41mjcplugin-based deal
14:11.01mjcit needs some bugfixes but xart as a cyCircled plugin would be a reason for me to fix it
14:11.18BankZIs DKPMon worthwhile?
14:11.22mjcplus, having circled buttons + XArt would be hot
14:11.30BankZim using the eqDKP atm
14:11.41mjcdkpmon can export to eqDKP
14:11.59mjcafaik
14:12.29CodayusI thought that feature was still a work in progress?
14:12.42Codayus<shrug>  I haven't messed with that mod though, so not sure.
14:12.48mjcit works, but it's buggy, but like I said
14:12.53mjcI'd help fix it if XArt used it
14:12.56Daemona*chuckles* hey you got that trinket with +stealth ;)
14:13.03mjcyeah
14:13.11mjcI only had tank trinkets previous
14:13.12mjcly
14:13.22mjcwell and caster oens
14:13.30mjcso who could go wrong for 50s
14:13.33Daemonaferals give me creeks
14:13.43Daemonayou never know how to deal with em
14:13.46Daemonacreeps
14:14.15mjcworking on becoming the OT for my guild :P
14:14.39Mikmamoo.
14:16.21DranorRoarr.
14:16.34mjcMooRoar, says the ManCow
14:17.05mjcbtw, mangle stacks per-druid!wootowoot
14:17.08Dranorbad geared ferals are my favourite target when i pvp with my rogue
14:17.51mjcI'm not exactly easy to kill :p
14:17.52Dranorthey're so soft compared to the traditional bear tank :-P
14:18.19mjc12k armor, 8k HP, 338def :p
14:18.36BankZanyone know the slash command for DKPMon?
14:19.19Wogroiplis there an addon that reskins the character tab and stuff?
14:19.25mjcskinner
14:19.39Wogroiplthat does all the frames?
14:19.43mjcyeah
14:19.47BankZIs DKPMon like RaidTracker?
14:19.50Wogroiplok thank you
14:19.53BankZthats what I am looking for
14:21.06naeneeHm. Can Baggins be scaled somehow? And is there a way to make alt+click trading work?
14:21.25Nargiddleyi put scale into the latest version
14:21.52WogroiplBankZ: are you looking for an addon that can give you the eqDKP string for updating?
14:21.55naeneeOh, I updated this morning, so I'll check again if I can find the option
14:21.58CIA-1703gamefaq * r22869 10Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Mining.toc: Cartographer_Mining - Fixed Typo
14:22.37BankZWogroipl: Something that tracks who was in which raid
14:22.42BankZwhat look that got
14:22.49BankZand what bossses were killed
14:22.55CIA-1703gamefaq * r22870 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc: Cartographer_Herbalism - Added deDE Description to Toc
14:22.56naeneeI like the quality threshold :) The day before that feature was in, I liked increasing the saturation of the colors, and was a bit annoyed by the bright white. Now I can disable the white :)
14:23.07BankZalso if it took a screenshot, it would be great
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14:23.26BankZand export to a text file
14:23.29BankZlol
14:24.03BankZthats all I need
14:24.53CIA-1703gamefaq * r22871 10Cartographer/Modules/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
14:24.53CIA-17Cartographer:
14:24.53CIA-17- Updated deDE Translation
14:24.53CIA-17- Changed all German ASCII Codes to Umlauts (UTF-8 Format)
14:25.19BankZanything like that?
14:25.37mjcBankZ: no idea, I don't use it
14:25.40naeneeHm. I can not find the scale option in the fubar menu,
14:25.42WogroiplBankZ: the only addon I can think of is Raidtracker
14:25.49BankZok
14:25.52naeneeI'll try updating again
14:25.53mjcdkpmon does have similar stuff
14:26.04naeneeAh yes, another update.
14:26.08mjcand XLootMaster will have something similar also
14:26.28BankZwhats dkpmon's slash commands?
14:27.22naeneeAh yes, the scale works nicely :)
14:27.24BankZi tried /dkp /dkpm and /dkpmon
14:27.45naeneeI'll check if I can edit it myself to fix the static fubar font/icon size
14:27.57mjcBankZ: read the .lua yourself, it should be right in the beginning
14:28.21Nargiddleyi dont think i've done anything to mess with the fubar plugins size
14:29.21MikmaNargiddley: nice updates
14:30.07Nargiddleyif theres anything you really want in let me know now, going on holiday after tomorrow :D
14:30.39naeneehmm
14:30.41naenee*thinks*
14:30.50naeneeI think I do
14:31.15BankZmjc: I searched for "slash" and didnt find anything
14:31.17naeneeI want the different virtual bags to bump into eachother, preferably with a toggle to keep the current bump-less behaviour.
14:31.24naeneeIt would make positioning easier
14:31.29mjcBankZ: look for an aceoptions table
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14:32.27Nargiddleyhm
14:33.11Nargiddleynaenee, the fubar plugin changes size for me when i change the fubar font size. Is that what isnt working for you ?
14:33.49naeneeYes, let me try it again, perhaps it is using an old saved default
14:34.14naeneeIt becomes larger, but not smaller here
14:34.21naeneeThere seems to be a default minimum size
14:34.43naeneeWhich goes for the icon as well
14:34.59Nargiddleykeeps getting smaller all the way down for me
14:35.24WogroiplBankZ: http://dkpmonaddon.googlepages.com/dkpmon
14:35.42naeneeIt seems to be stuck at the minimum size of 13 for me
14:35.47naeneeHm. Weird
14:38.01MikmaNargiddley: umm, include soul bag ... that's wrong :P
14:38.19MikmaNargiddley: another count would be much nicer than having them counted as the whole thing
14:38.36Nargiddleyahh
14:39.08MikmaNargiddley: and, option to hide the total slots, "show only empty slots" :)
14:39.34MikmaNargiddley: something like "B:5/S:7" would be nice (bag 5 empty soul 7 empty)
14:40.21Nargiddleyi was thinking have the ss count be ss purple
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14:40.52Nargiddleyi'll look into getting that working better, bed time for now :D
14:41.02MikmaNargiddley: night night
14:41.10naeneegnite :)
14:41.12Nargiddleynight
14:41.12Mikmawell, yeah, SS count as purple
14:41.14Mikmaporn.
14:41.26CIA-1703goun * r22872 10SorrenTimers/abilities-paladin.lua:
14:41.26CIA-17SorrenTimers:
14:41.26CIA-17- Fixed bug with multiple seals showing for paladins
14:41.26CIA-17- Added Seal of Wisdom for Paladins
14:41.26CIA-17- Fixed bug with judgement not clearing current seal sometimes.
14:41.41MikmaNargiddley: don't sleep, it's new year!
14:41.45Mikmarockets and shit :D
14:41.59Nargiddley3:40am here, new years already passed
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14:42.25naeneepm here, are you in hawaii?
14:42.38Nargiddleyand day after tomorrow i have to be up at like 6am to leave for the holiday
14:42.41Nargiddleynew zealand
14:42.48naeneeah
14:43.06naeneeWell, have a nice holiday :)
14:43.44Nargiddleynight~
14:47.36CIA-1703curney 07sylvanaar * r22873 10Prat/Prat/modules/Buttons.lua: Prat: fixed the errors in buttons.lua
14:51.50packetlsshmm, agUF broken (raid frames)?
14:52.24mjcthey're hidden by default
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14:56.23Daemonaand thats good
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14:56.39Daemonacause every moving of people, joining leaving gives me freezes
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14:59.34Grine~seen kyahx
15:00.00purlkyahx <n=kyahx@144.13.213.112> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 41d 8h 17m 39s ago, saying: 'kergoth: mutilate?'.
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15:08.21naeneeI there an Aced Felwood Gatherer alternative?
15:08.31FryGuyyes i forget the name though :(
15:08.53Wogroiplsomething like felwoodtimer?
15:09.10FryGuyoh
15:09.16FryGuyfelwood farmer
15:09.17FryGuyhttp://wowace.com/files/FelwoodFarmer/FelwoodFarmer-r22675.zip
15:09.23DaemonaFelwoodFarmer
15:09.25Wogroiplthat one :)
15:09.44Daemonaformerly known as q_fwg
15:09.49Daemonai think the renaming was good ;)
15:10.16naeneeok, thanks
15:10.55KirkburnGawd it was only a couple of days ago that we were on 20,000 revisions
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15:16.02naeneeFelwood Farmer just shows locations, not timers?
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15:17.44CIA-1703kagaro * r22874 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: added missing kokr translation used babblefish so I hope its right
15:17.44Daemonauhm havent farmed felwoo since i got it, i assume it shows timers once you looted a spot
15:19.21naeneeah okay
15:19.31naeneeI can't loot any yet to check, but I'll find out soon then.
15:19.34CIA-1703kagaro * r22875 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: added missing kokr translation used babblefish so I hope its right
15:19.48CIA-1703eternally777 * r22876 10SacredBuff/UI.lua:
15:19.48CIA-17SacredBuff:
15:19.48CIA-17* Possible fix for `attempt to compare number with nil' error on UI.lua:165.
15:20.30CIA-1703eternally777 * r22877 10SacredBuff/SacredBuff.toc:
15:20.31CIA-17SacredBuff:
15:20.31CIA-17* TOC version bump
15:21.31nevcairielhm
15:25.43CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22878 10Cartographer_Import/Import.lua: Cartographer_Import: fixed a typo in Grave Moos
15:26.59nevcairielbleh, typo-ing in the commit message of a fixed typo isnt good :D
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15:29.59CIA-1703arjuna * r22879 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.lua:
15:29.59CIA-17simpleMinimap:
15:29.59CIA-17- 'skins' module check fix
15:30.05Kaeltenls
15:30.09Kaeltenhi guys
15:30.14AKXHay.
15:30.38nevcairielhi Kaelten
15:30.54AKXMy friends say there's something odd about this image, but I can't put my finger on it... http://up.servut.us/view/63
15:31.10MikmaKaelten: hi noob
15:31.20Kaelten:(
15:31.23KaeltenI'm not a noob
15:31.48MikmaAKX: i know what's wrong about it, it's Tekkub's favorite picture!
15:31.50Saroznefarian counter is SO broken
15:31.53Kaeltenam I?
15:32.18MikmaKaelten: no, i just wanted to get your attention
15:32.32Kaeltenmikma :P
15:34.02Kaeltenwhy did you want my attention though?
15:36.20MikmaKaelten: because i have a crush on you
15:36.25Mikma*gigglez*
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15:42.02Kaeltenwoot!
15:42.07Kaeltenwait, are you a guy?
15:42.15Kaeltenif so, um, not my type :P
15:42.21Mikmawell i'm not sure
15:42.24Mikmatrying doesn't make you gay
15:42.31Kaeltenlol
15:42.43Kaeltenwell I'm going afk, gotta run to the store.
15:43.05KaeltenAway:P
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15:49.14Zodiit's rly weird every time I log in my Initial memory use is around 40 MiB.... but when I do a Garbage collection it falls to ~26 MiB... and when I log out and in again.. it does the same
15:49.25Zodianyone know how I can get it to stay down?
15:52.19kebinusanWoW 2.0 does incremental GC, so set your script memory where you would like that upper threshold to be for more frequent GC
15:52.33Merya garbage collection is run after all addons are loaded as far as I know so i guess one of your addons releases memory after that gc run
15:52.54kebinusanI dont believe that is the case mery
15:53.07Merywell it was as of pre 2.0
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15:53.18kebinusanyah dont think it is anymore
15:53.21kagaromorning
15:53.24kebinusanthats why your initial memory use is so high
15:53.35Zodihmm ok thx
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15:54.33cynyrso what would be the best way to move to stand alone libs?
15:55.30kebinusandelete the libs in all your addons, download and follow the instructions in !!!standalone libraries
15:55.40kebinusanand if you use svn check out with --ignore-externals
15:55.50cynyrohh didn't know there were instructions
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15:56.09Hipkorkhiya, i was wondering what was the process to submit bug fixes ?
15:56.18kebinusanyeah theres a file called, something like 'really serious, readme' or something
15:56.40cynyrkebinusan: kk
15:57.27Hipkorki got a bug fix for loudmouth, freerefills and have added fubar support to characterinfostorage
15:57.29kebinusanHipkork, Post it on the wowace forums, check with the author on irc, kinda varies
15:58.32AmadeoMery had a little lamb
15:59.20Hipkorkokie maybe i'll post on the forum as its kinda hard to find the authors if not in the same timezone
15:59.48cynyrkebinusan: it's README.txt, and it's really really simple as soon as i get a clean list of libs...
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16:18.03Daemonayay any1 up for a round of "name the addon" ?
16:18.06Daemona(*censored*) for k, v in pairs(Swatter) do Swatter[k] = nil end
16:18.06Daemona• *censored* cries
16:23.02Mikmahttp://www.kaleva.fi/plusmedia/img/hires/20061231/hires_061231hyppy.jpg :D
16:23.18mjcanyone familiar with combat log parsing?
16:24.29mjcguess I have to catch events
16:27.23naeneeHm. Can Baggins replace the default bank view?
16:29.19Mikmayeah
16:30.06naeneeFor some reason when I check 'Bank', it still displays the default bank view and it puts my Equipment with Other of my normal bags
16:31.23Daemonahmmm
16:31.31Daemonaanything wrong with the forums? i cant log in
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16:33.19naeneeI am logged in fine
16:34.19Hipkorkhmm having problems with trac, cant attach a file to a ticket
16:34.35naeneeIs there a way to use baggins to show a set of bags for the bank bags and hide the default bank view?
16:35.39Hipkorkmaybe check OneBank, iirc i cant do something like that
16:35.56naeneehm. But then I'd need OneBag with it as it depends on that
16:36.52naeneeBaggins can show bank-bags, but I am not sure how to set it up and it does not hide the default bank view. So I'm looking for someone who has setup their bank bags in Baggins without touching their other bags/jumbling them up and a way to hide the default bank bag view.
16:38.14Hipkorki was suggesting you look at the code in OneBank / OneCore and copy it over to baggins if this feature is missing
16:38.22naeneeAh okay
16:38.30naeneeThat I can try.
16:38.51Hipkorki know the bank view is an event, i remember seeing a call to hide it and show another frame instead, which is what you want
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16:40.30naeneeBaggins already has the bit in it to show a certain bank-bag when visiting the bank, just not something to hide. I'll check Onebag.
16:42.55nuOHEPnaenee, create a ne bag and check "Bag" in its options... it will show only bank crap. but you cant hide default bank window yet afaik
16:43.34nuOHEPnot "bag" but "bank"
16:43.48Hipkorkself:RegisterEvent("BANKFRAME_OPENED", function() self.frame:Show() end)
16:43.49Hipkorkself:RegisterEvent("BANKFRAME_CLOSED", function() self.frame:Hide() end)
16:44.05naeneeBut it doesn't show anything
16:44.07Hipkorkthat's how it opens its own frame instead of the bank frame
16:44.37naeneeAh, I have to add categories.
16:45.02snurre-hm, the height of aguf frames got changed today?
16:45.42Hipkorkstill no pet showing in aguf tho :-(
16:46.55nuOHEPhm... where can i post suggestions to baggins? didnt find a thread for it on the forums :/
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16:55.44snurre-is it possible to show grid in one column?
16:57.14ilifinif you edit a layout file yes
16:59.00AmadeoWhat is Baggins anyway? Suddenly everyone talks about it
16:59.00snurre-so difficult Ø)
16:59.38CIA-1703ricowan * r22880 10RicoMiniMap/RicoMiniMap.lua:
16:59.38CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
16:59.38CIA-17- Added a reset slash command, updated the transparency support so it is disabled when not "outdoors"
17:01.06Hipkorkbag addon, i use OneBag etc personally
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17:12.36naeneeAmadeo: It uses virtual bags to provide a sorted and categorized layout, no item is physically moved
17:12.46naeneeYou can open individual categories
17:13.29cynyrHipkork: you can enable the petcheck option.. it works here although ymmv
17:14.11mjchmm
17:14.18mjc~seen ckknight
17:14.23purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 45m 54s ago, saying: 'Kodewulf: in the game, does it show spell range in yards or meters?'.
17:14.25mjcanyone around with combat log parsing exp?
17:14.39naeneepetcheck?
17:15.04mjcI want to grab literally all the combat log events you can see
17:15.26mjcUNIT_COMBAT?
17:15.41Hipkorkcynyr: ah cool, i'll check
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17:17.45AmadeoWell, I think I'm going to just make a Protection build for my Warrior, come TBC
17:18.13BankZIs there anything out there that will hide bars unless you hover over?
17:18.30vid`trinity does it i think
17:18.34vid`but nothing i know of thats ace'd
17:18.34Ominousis there anywhere where we can see the commands like seen and substution
17:19.08BankZI wish bartender did
17:19.14Mikmawashwish
17:19.17CIA-1703phyber * r22881 10Fence/ (Fence.toc modules/Fence_Wipe.lua):
17:19.17CIA-17Fence:
17:19.17CIA-17- Added Wipe module. This adds AH_Wipe functionality to Fence.
17:19.59naeneecool
17:20.14naenee*deletes AH_Wipe*
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17:23.15BankZTradeSkillsInfo doesnt look to see what I can make?
17:23.41BankZI want something that tells me what I can use a item for
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17:30.26CIA-1703phyber * r22882 10Fence/modules/Fence_Wipe.lua:
17:30.27CIA-17Fence:
17:30.27CIA-17- Wipe: Fix for a variety of toggling incidents at the AH. For example, if we have the AH window open and the module is toggled on when we haven't been to the AH in this session, it won't bug out.
17:30.30CIA-1703tornhoof * r22883 10Yata/ (7 files):
17:30.30CIA-17Yata:
17:30.30CIA-17- Refactored source code
17:30.30CIA-17- Totemset support
17:30.34CIA-17- removed Timers
17:32.03mjcphyber, Tornhoof nice
17:32.58CIA-1703tornhoof * r22884 10Yata/ (Yata.lua YataLib.toc):
17:32.58CIA-17Yata:
17:32.58CIA-17- delete files
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17:44.59[dRaCo]you removed the timers?
17:45.05[dRaCo]but why?
17:45.59Tornhoofmerge with gotwood? soonish
17:46.20kagarogotwood never worked right for me
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17:49.35kagaroa little more pvp this mornig, then ill start work on Cartographer_Stats
17:49.52CIA-1703tornhoof * r22885 10Yata/ (. readme.txt):
17:49.52CIA-17Yata:
17:49.52CIA-17-Readme.txt updated
17:55.28naeneeIs there a Fubar Addon which manages loot rolls?
17:56.10naeneeGroupFu did it
17:56.19naeneeBut it seems to be gone
17:57.04[Ammo]there's still one from Rabbit in branches
17:57.28naeneeah.
17:57.47naeneeI wish that was in wowace.com/files :|
17:58.57naeneeBut I'll try it out
18:02.27snurrehm, if Grid could be set to one column I could make it look like praid with class colouring i guess
18:02.29snurrehm, givf
18:04.09Stavmari have a question about cartographer, maybe you guys can help me find the answer since ckknight is not here
18:04.49CIA-1703sano * r22886 10LoggerHead/LoggerHead.lua: LoggerHead: Fixed unintended firing of ZONE_CHANGE_NEW_AREA
18:05.13CIA-1703sano * r22887 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone: Fixed unintended firing of ZONE_CHANGE_NEW_AREA
18:05.31StavmarI am trying to understand why the map closes once i die in a BG, is this expected behavior. I currently use this cartographer map over the standard blizzard BG map
18:05.41CIA-1703phyber * r22888 10Fence/modules/Fence_Wipe.lua:
18:05.41CIA-17Fence:
18:05.41CIA-17- Wipe: Fix AuctionFrameBrowse nil error on login.
18:09.39kagarostavmar im in a bg now ill see what it does
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18:11.17kagarohmm yeah it goes away
18:11.30CIA-1703phyber * r22889 10Fence/modules/Fence_Wipe.lua:
18:11.30CIA-17Fence:
18:11.30CIA-17- Wipe: Added missing 'Usable' option default.
18:12.08CIA-1703phyber * r22890 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.lua:
18:12.08CIA-17AH_Wipe:
18:12.08CIA-17- Added missing 'Usable' option default.
18:12.09kagaroill check it in a sec when i get out of thsi bg
18:17.17kergothKaeltenAway, getting a error 400 - bad request trying to reply to a post on the wowace forums.
18:17.26phyber~botmail
18:17.51kergothbotmail only triggers wehnt he person logs in /logs out / rejoins the channel
18:18.02kergothit isnt smart enough to notify when the person switches to their regular nick from an alternate one
18:18.07kergoththat issue's been bugging me for yeras
18:18.16kergothsome day i'll get sufficiently motivated to fix the fucking thing
18:18.19kergothheh
18:18.37phyber~botmail for Neriak do you want me to maintain Fence on WoWInterface?
18:19.07kergothguess people could just /cycle every time they /nick
18:19.08kergothhehe
18:19.48phyberhehe
18:21.36snurrewhat does Fence do?
18:22.02phybervarious AH functions
18:24.15kagarodoes WORLD_MAP_UPDATE get fired when you die in a bg?
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18:27.14Benumbedthink so
18:28.53beerkehmm how do you check if shift or ctrl key is pressed down ?
18:29.11kergothIsShiftKeyDown()
18:29.12kergoth:P
18:29.35beerkesttupid wowwiki search gave me nothing, thx
18:32.58phyberyeah, wowwiki search is bullshit.
18:33.14phyberyou do a lot better to just open the API page and search for a word there.
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18:40.22Ominouscan you shorten local target = target and target or "" to local target = target or ""
18:41.56TainYeah, target will end up as "" if target starts nil
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18:51.22CIA-1703tornhoof * r22891 10Yata/ (Options.lua TotemBar.lua):
18:51.22CIA-17Yata:
18:51.22CIA-17- TotemSet bugfixes
18:52.47Barbanushmmmm a mod that changes your experience bar, so that its a honor bar, you set a target and it gives you the percent, etc
19:02.28ThraeMmmm, who is rabbit again? vharr, right?
19:02.31Thrae~seen vharr
19:02.59purlThrae: i haven't seen 'vharr'
19:02.59Thrae~seen purl
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19:03.09Thrae~seen maia
19:03.11purlmaia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 47m 54s ago, saying: 'Laric: the latest oRA is compatible with CTRA 1.62+'.
19:03.22ThraeWell that's not encouraging.
19:03.25Thrae~seen rabbit
19:03.26purlrabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 494d 19h 33m 24s ago, saying: '+in'.
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19:04.40Gngsk~seen phyber
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19:04.53ckknighthey all
19:05.00Gngskhappy new year ckk
19:05.13ckknighti still have a ways to go for that
19:05.21kagaroheya ck
19:07.28ckknighthow's everyone doing?
19:08.00kagarook, working on cart import
19:09.00ThraeMmm, I like the idea of "5-man raid instances". You're raiding with 5 people?
19:09.48GngskThrae, attempt to appease all the cries for 'epic 5 man content'
19:09.56Gngskraid = epic yay!
19:11.54Ominouscan you do x= c and y or v and t or j?
19:12.45ThraeOminous: Yes, but make sure you add parentheses where appropriate.
19:12.56Ominousthanks
19:15.51ThraeWhoops, damn pairs
19:16.40kagarohmm thats odd
19:17.30CIA-1703thrae * r22892 10VitalWatchOptions/VitalWatchOptions.lua: VitalWatchOptions -- Fergot 5.1 leeks tha pears()
19:17.32BankZAnyone know of a good site that explains stat bonus?
19:17.41BankZlike X Armor = X damage reducation
19:17.59ThraeBankZ: Your class's forums probably has a thread on it. I know Druids do.
19:18.47BankZso its dependant on class?
19:18.51nuOHEP_no
19:19.10kenlyricwowwiki.com has lots of info on stats.
19:19.21ThraeSome stat bonuses are dependant on class -- critical strike ratings, for instance.
19:19.38BankZok
19:19.41BankZthanks
19:19.50BankZI find this interesting
19:19.55kenlyricbut yeah, lots of stats change based on class.
19:20.02kenlyriclike mana regen through spirit.
19:20.08BankZand my brother said math wouldnt help me in life
19:20.11kagarohmm i managed to bypass the cart prof module and get it to load herb and mining without haveing those skills
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19:22.24kagarowell this is an interesting bug
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19:23.19kagarodoing an import and turning off the module check for herb/minin imports them all reload the console and they get put in the right db and both options now visibl with or without the skill
19:23.30Kaeltenello
19:23.51TainSo I guess it's looking like we'll see TBC on Jan 16.
19:24.41kagaroit just disables the other wierd guess i need to wipe it and try again to see if this happens all the tiem or not
19:24.57kagarowell gon eat lunch first
19:26.09ckknighthey Kaelten
19:26.15neeneeI must say. Terry Pratchet's Hogfather 2-part series was wonderful.
19:26.18Kaeltenhi :)
19:26.25ckknightTain: that's been known for some time...
19:26.27ckknightKaelten: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
19:26.47Kaeltenread it earlier today
19:27.11ckknightalright
19:27.16ckknightI think it's a good idea
19:27.23Kaeltenmy biggest hint would be to reduce redundancy and try to take away from the code as much as possible.
19:27.45kebinusanAnyone nerdy enough to have size comparisons for outland vs azeroth?
19:27.47ckknightexample of that?
19:28.13kebinusanlike dimensions in meters or somethin
19:28.25ckknightkebinusan: Outland is 19 square miles, Kalimdor is 26 square miles, Eastern Kingdoms is 24 square miles
19:28.30ckknightlast I calculated
19:28.34CIA-1703tornhoof * r22893 10Yata/ (Options.lua TotemBar.lua):
19:28.34CIA-17Yata:
19:28.34CIA-17- More Totemset fixes
19:28.36ckknighterr, not 19
19:28.36ckknight29
19:28.53kebinusanah cool thnx ck
19:28.57ckknightit adds up to around 80 in the end
19:29.00Kaeltenckknight: well as far as reducing redundancy, OneBank and OneBag share 95% of the same code, i could hav ejust copied them both into each
19:29.09ckknighthrm
19:29.12Mikmahttp://huru.1g.fi/kuvat/stuff/shiterider.jpg :DDDDD
19:29.15ckknightfair point
19:29.35Kaeltenwould have resulted in more likely bugs in many case, and also harder to maintain.
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19:30.59KaeltenAs far as the taking away point, sometimes I find I code a first draft with a lot of extra steps or declaring extra variables that I only use once.  Going back in I can clean it up remove the extra code and use the values anonyoumously(sp?) instead of declaring each individually
19:31.41Mikmahttp://huru.1g.fi/kuvat/stuff/mmm_hothothot.jpg/full
19:31.56KaeltenUsing helper functions to automate redundant tasks is another good one.
19:32.46Kaeltenlike I have functions for creating buttons inside the new KC_Items instead of having all 7-10 steps for each one copied and pasted into the code
19:33.53ckknightlol, Mikma
19:34.05ckknightsome trannies are creepily passable
19:34.41ThraeTransvestite or MtF?
19:35.22Mikmackknight: :D
19:35.27Mikmahttp://huru.1g.fi/kuvat/stuff/03.jpg/full
19:35.39ckknight?
19:35.42ThraeMtF (Male to Female transexual) can be VERY hard to distinguish...not as much with transvestites (crossdresers)
19:36.19ThraeSince transexuals will take hormones, diet, shave everywhere, etc.
19:36.23ckknightThrae: yea, MTFs can go through FFS (Facial Feminization Surgery) as well as other surgeries
19:36.30ckknighttransvesties will typically not do so
19:36.51Kaeltenthen on an extremely rare side you have actual hermaphadites(Sp?)
19:36.52axxockknight knows too much about this topic
19:37.10ThraeKaelten: There's no such thing as a "real" hermaprodite.
19:37.22KaeltenThrae: there are children born with both sets fo genetalia
19:37.27ckknightKaelten: true Chimaeric hermaphrodites are extremely rare.
19:37.28ThraeYou can't have both working male and female sex organs with the same DNA.
19:37.34ckknightright,
19:37.39Kaeltennope, thats the sad part
19:37.46ckknightThrae: they have to be a Chimaera to have that.
19:37.54ThraeWell chimeras are not "real" hermaprodites, they have two separate sets of DNA...essentially, they are their own twin
19:38.03TainYeah I saw an episode of House about that just the other day!
19:38.08TainWell no the hermaphrodite part.
19:38.16ckknightright, and in that definition, there are no real hermaphrodites
19:38.20TainBut twin dna in one person.
19:38.20hasteThrae: so, are you planning on working on TinyTip in the future?
19:38.22phyberGngsk: sup
19:38.24ckknightalright, time to shower
19:38.33TainI've seen pornos of it, it must be true.
19:38.48Kaeltenin the past the when one of them was born (with both sets) the doctor would do a sex change type surgery at birth based on the parents preference
19:38.52ThraeTain: No you didn't, I've seen 'em all :D That "girl" was simply male, not a chimera.
19:39.07Kaeltenand in some cases when they entered puberty the little boy would grow tits
19:39.09TainYou mean what I see in pornography isn't real?
19:39.13TainMy world is shattered.
19:39.36ThraeTain: I'm talking about House! I only read Futaba manga, sheesh. Real ones gross me out.
19:39.38TainYeah they can do genetic testing now to make the better choice now, Kaelten.
19:39.46KaeltenThrae: if memory serves there was an episode where there was a twin inside the same person.
19:39.57KaeltenTain, yep, now they can, thankfully.
19:39.59TainYou mean House isn't real?  My world is shattered!
19:40.12KaeltenTain: go get some crazy glue.
19:40.21hasteThrae: Hello /d/
19:40.38BankZIs there an addon that compares two items, like this item will give you +20 more attack power, -5 mana reegen a second
19:41.01KaeltenTem: was working on one a while backnot sure if he ever got it working in 2.0 though
19:41.02ThraeKaelten: There was a cool SVU episode about that, where they had twins with one that had female characteristics despite being male. So the wacky doctor turned her into a female, and then made her have "practice sex" with her twin brother as part of "her" therapy into acting like a girl.
19:41.26TainNow I know I saw that in a porno.
19:41.42KaeltenThrae: ya I saw that episode, what was weird is the same actor appeared in another episode of another Law and Order series as a different perp
19:41.59Thraehaste: Yeah, I'm waiting for TBC. I'm still catching up, and there are some new functions in the next patch that I've been waiting for.
19:42.21Barbanus~seen vhaarr
19:42.41purlvhaarr <n=chatzill@89.80-202-39.nextgentel.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 18h 21m 38s ago, saying: 'Like I said, you need to read and learn.'.
19:42.41Kaeltennext patch? we expecting one before the expansion?
19:42.41hasteThrae: ah, just wondering as I currently don't use any tooltip addon, and I was in the mood to fork it for personal usage if not :)
19:42.42BarbanusI *REALLY* doubt that
19:42.42ThraeKaelten: L&O fans call those "repeat offenders"
19:42.54Kaeltenheh
19:42.55TainI don't see how, TBC launches Jan 16
19:43.05ThraeKaelten: Well the expansion will come with a patch to regular WoW too
19:43.09Barbanusthere is no scheduled maintenance in the US this week
19:43.22ThraeAlthough I'll have TBC myself
19:43.24BarbanusThat has already been stated, so that means they would launch a patch 1 week before TBC?
19:43.27KaeltenThrae: ya, I'm interested in seeing what is going to be allowed to non TBC owners
19:43.30BarbanusYea, ... no :P
19:43.53Thraehaste: TinyTip works fine, just some of the icons have trouble...mainly the buff and debuff stuff
19:44.16TainThat means I will have to play again, I told friends inthe guild I was in that I'd play in TBC with them.  I couldn't handle raiding AQ40 and Naxx, too much frustration, not enough reward.
19:44.17hasteThrae: yes, but if it was unmaintained I would strip it of all the extra features I don't want also :)
19:44.18Thraehaste: Oh, and the "Extra Tooltip" never worked 100% to begin with. I've been waiting for TBC's stuff which will make it a LOT easier.
19:44.40Thraehaste: That's why I separated TinyTip into TinyTip & TinyTipExtras.
19:44.50KaeltenI got a svn access request today from decursives author
19:44.57ThraeTinyTip doesn't depend on TinyTipExtras
19:45.12ThraeI try to follow a modularized approach.
19:45.20KaeltenThrae whats coming in TBC that'll make tooltips easier?
19:45.23hasteThrae: I know all that, but I would still prefer a total stripdown :)
19:45.50hasteI don't do it much with maintained mods as I like to follow the developement also
19:46.04TainI thought that all the addon/scripting/macro/etc. functionality changes were already on live and TBC was just content.
19:46.20BarbanusTain, thats what I thought
19:46.22KaeltenTain:  I know there are some tweaks coming out
19:46.23hasteTain: some new features in 2.0.3
19:46.47TainAh ok.
19:46.48ThraeKaelten: Several new tooltip functions, like GetTooltipUnit(), etc. Don't have to copy the existing tooltip to get vanilla unit information from the game engine
19:47.10KaeltenThrae anything to make item based tooltip info easier?
19:47.26Kaelteni.e. for use with the new KC_Items
19:47.32ThraeKaelten: Check out Iriel's thread, I believe there's GetTooltipItem() along with Unit
19:48.13nuOHEP* NEW OnTooltipSetItem - Triggered when a Tooltip shows an item
19:48.13Thraeslouken's also adding stuff like a function to clear the right side of the tooltip as well as the left.
19:48.24nuOHEP* NEW: name, link = Tooltip:GetItem()
19:48.35ThraeYeah, the OnTooltipSetUnit is also what I've been waiting for -- no more hooking of SetUnit
19:48.52Kaeltenoh damn those two will be awesome!
19:48.56ThraeWhich has caused problems in the past with the hooking chain of other tooltip mods
19:48.57Kaeltendamnit, patch day needs to hury
19:49.05Barbanus* NEW: name, link = Tooltip:GetItem()
19:49.20Barbanus* NEW: name, rank = Tooltip:GetSpell()
19:49.24BarbanusThats cool
19:49.50Tornhoofthey should rather add support for tooltips on those secureenteranchor buttons
19:49.58Kaeltenwait... how will I be able to tell the qty of the item thats being mouseovered
19:50.02Kaeltendamnit so much for simplicity
19:50.35BarbanusHmmmm you should ask for that
19:50.38Thraehaste: Anyway, before I stopped with TinyTip, I added a LOT of hacks to try and fix problems with other mods...now that won't be the case come the next live patch I believe. So the Core will get very, very tiny. I'll see about removing all hooking, if possible.
19:50.38BarbanusThat seems logical
19:52.39ThraeI'll probably even separate TinyTipExtras into more embedded modules that purists like you can easily disable by commenting them out of the TOC ;)
19:53.01ThraeAnyway, back to VitalWatch.
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20:08.44snurrehm, how do i colour the skinner viewport?
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20:10.54ckknightyou misspelled color, you must've slipped in an extra 'u' accidentally
20:11.07ckknightto answer your question, though, I don't know
20:11.21ThraeMmm...for an aggro alert sound, should I have a separate one for each class? Like "Priest" + "Aggro" sounds.
20:11.50Thraeckknight: You and your American spelling ;) That's the British spelling. But I'm sure you're just being an ass, heh.
20:11.51ckknightwhen does it make the sound?
20:12.40ThraeWhen the Priest gains aggro, according to BanzaiLib.
20:12.43ckknightyea, I'm just being an ass
20:12.46ckknightoh
20:12.47ckknighthrm
20:12.53kagarock whats the call order for an AceModule?  OnInitialize, then OnEbale?
20:12.57kagaro*OnEnable
20:13.02ThraeI'm trying to decide between specifically for each class or just a simple "Help!"
20:13.05ckknightyea, I think having separate sounds would be good
20:13.14ckknightkagaro: right.
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20:13.36Mikmackknight: ass please
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20:13.49ckknightremember, it's ass, not arse
20:13.56kagarocan you think of any reason why Cartographer:HasModule(AceLibrary("Babble-Spell-2.2")["Mining"]) would cause the module to be initialized?
20:14.04Mikmackknight: grey or gray? :)
20:14.34snurre[21:10] <ckknight> you misspelled color, you must've slipped in an extra 'u' accidentally   <-- no, i did not :p
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20:15.13kagaroi found if you have Cartographer_Import enabled in the addon screen it causes both of the ondemand profession modules to load
20:15.54kagaroand do OnInitialized
20:17.08kagaroany idea why ?
20:17.44Gamefaqif you talk about ass :) -> http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4657/1165550990002nt7ny9.gif
20:18.28Mikmajiggle jiggle jiggle
20:20.11GngskMikma, do you use borders on your aguf frames?
20:21.19kagarogona go eat, ck if you can figure out why thats happening let me know
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20:22.54kergothkagaro, i presume so it can import all the gatherer data you have in one fell swoop.  you shouldnt be keeping _import enabled all the time, i wouldnt think
20:22.56kergothbut /shrug
20:23.56MikmaGngsk: yes
20:24.40DarkImakuniphyber: I have something I'd like to add to Fence
20:25.30CIA-1703ominous * r22894 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
20:25.30CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
20:25.30CIA-17- Now uses tables for moves so easier to add other moves
20:25.30CIA-17- May have bugs please use forums to report bugs
20:25.36GngskMikma, k, run this code http://ace.pastey.net/4264
20:25.56Mikmagah :P
20:26.35Mikmathat needs some sort of addon :P
20:27.09GngskMikma, make some list of colors you'd want for each type of event
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20:28.57GngskMikma, I also dunno how to do the alpha fading in and out, but I want it.
20:29.34Antiar2OnUpdate(), arg1 is the frame time. totaltime += frametime, alpha = sin(totaltime)
20:29.36Antiar2Tada!
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20:34.01KaeltenDarkImakuni: Neriak is the main author I think
20:35.19DarkImakuniok thx
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20:35.44ckknightkagaro: because they're dependencies, it's so that it can properly import into those modules.
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20:42.57ckknight_kagaro: because they're dependencies, it's so that it can properly import into those modules.
20:43.07kagarogotcha
20:43.15kagaromissed the optional deps in the toc file
20:44.11kagarokergoth: some might just to get both items in the menu at once even after gather.lua is deleted it will still give them both menu items.. as some people have requested
20:45.08kagaroill update cart import sometime today to include treasure data
20:45.55DarkImakuniok, if anyone sees Neriak then please show him this: http://ace.pastey.net/4265
20:46.44ckknight_DarkImakuni: use purl's botmail
20:47.00DarkImakunihow? :)
20:47.43ckknight_~botmail
20:47.51ckknight_type that.
20:47.56DarkImakuni~botmail
20:48.19DarkImakuniok thanks
20:48.51CIA-1703ckknight * r22895 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - take off screen clamp after clamping, allowing for mousewheel scrolling
20:49.03ckknight_there, to everyone who was bitching.
20:49.52kergothjesus, hudtastic is the fugliest hud i've ever seen
20:50.00nevcairielhehe
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20:51.11ckknight_kergoth: screenie
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20:52.17Temkergoth, and here I thought it looked kinda nice
20:52.35Temdidn't make me want to use it, but I didn't think it looked bad at all
20:52.45axxo~botmail
20:53.20CIA-1703usz * r22896 10TooltipExchange/ (Core.lua Modules/UI.lua):
20:53.20CIA-17TooltipExchange
20:53.20CIA-17- More fixes for item packs
20:56.34Wogroipl<PROTECTED>
20:59.28ilifinI bet the perfectraid author got pissy
20:59.31jaeteguys, what's the status of all the ace stuff and 2.0.3?
20:59.35jaeteeverything working? :]
21:00.50jaetei mean, if i just copy my current stuff over to the beta (or the PTR - same thing), is it gonna work?
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21:01.33DarkImakuniI think the Interface number needs to be changed to 20003 for PTR... =/
21:01.34nevcairielmost of the stuff i am using works in closed beta
21:01.49nevcairielyou can tic the "load out of date addons" thing and it works
21:01.59jaetehmm ok
21:02.15jaetei'm not quite up to date on live either... gotta upgrade all the stuff, then try on beta
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21:07.18CIA-1703ckknight * r22898 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - added experimental GC dealy that auto-GCs when not in combat. Please test it out and see if it is worthwhile (for soloing/raiding/bging/etc)
21:07.36ckknight_jaete: I do my development on the PTR
21:08.03jaetehaha, exemplary :)
21:08.14jaeteyou don't develop everything tho do you? ;)
21:09.06ckknight_sure I do, I'm actually all developers, everyone else is an IRC bot
21:09.08jaetethat simplifies matters yes
21:10.31CIA-1703Tristan * r22899 10RaidAgent/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:10.31CIA-17RaidAgent:
21:10.31CIA-17- Sending all syncing with a local SendAddonMessage function
21:10.31CIA-17- Added Improved Sap for rogues
21:10.31CIA-17- Hopefully made it work in battlegrounds. (NOT Arenas)
21:12.31CIA-1703nargiddley * r22900 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Much better options for the count text in the fubar plugin
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21:12.44NargiddleyMikma, gogo test that
21:13.47CIA-1703ckknight * r22901 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - also run a gc check on PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED
21:16.54Ominous_it new year in the US yet?
21:16.59ckknightno
21:17.05ckknight13 hours left for me
21:17.12ckknight7 hours or so for east coasters
21:17.27Ominousah so US are behind UK then :P, thought they were ahead
21:17.52ckknightnah
21:18.25Ominous2hrs40mins here
21:18.33DarkImakunisame as Omi
21:19.02nevcairiel1hr40 for me
21:19.40CIA-1703kagaro * r22902 10Cartographer_Import/ (Cartographer_Import.toc Import.lua): Cartographer_Import: added treasure support (not fishing though)
21:20.34CIA-1703bima * r22903 10Rummage/ (. README.txt Rummage-enUS.lua Rummage.lua Rummage.toc): Rummage: Initial version of a chat command to search CharacterProfiler data for items
21:20.51Wogroiplsame as Nevcariel
21:21.14AmadeoOminous: Please, tell us of the future
21:21.22Ominousok
21:21.36ckknightanyone planning on BGing/Raiding soon?
21:21.52CIA-1703bima * r22904 10TalentSafe/ (. README.txt TalentSafe.lua TalentSafe.toc): TalentSafe: Initial ace2 version; pops up confirmation dialogue before talent point is spent
21:21.58kagarowhat server ck ?
21:22.10ckknightkagaro: I'm just asking, I'm not doing it myself
21:22.14kagaroor you just need a test
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21:22.32ckknightI need someone to use the updated PerformanceFu when they go raiding/bging
21:22.40ckknightand tell me if they have performance gains or losses
21:23.00CIA-1703usz * r22897 10TooltipExchange_ItemDatabase/ (ItemPack.lua TooltipExchange_ItemDatabase.toc):
21:23.01CIA-17TooltipExchange_ItemDatabase
21:23.01CIA-17- Adjusted for new format plus some new items
21:23.08ckknightif there's consistent gains from several people, which is what I suspect, then the code will likely go into Ace2 proper
21:23.59DarkImakunilol oh dear... 22904 then 22897? CIA-17 needs a lie down
21:24.11CIA-17ow
21:24.20DarkImakunilol
21:24.55Amadeoit's tough to spend $300+ on an LCD when you can still get a nice CRT for $100 or so :P
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21:25.25Mimesisckk: this performancefu change, im curious as to what it is
21:25.34hasteplaying with a widescreen LCD is a totally new experience :D
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21:26.11ckknightMimesis: basically, I set up a system that checks if you're not in combat and not targetting an enemy, and if so, run a garbage collection
21:26.12Amadeohaste: The main problem I have with widescreen is that some games don't support it, and my PC isn't always top end, so if a new game comes out and I'm using a 1680x1050 LCD, I may not be able to run it very well
21:26.24ckknightit's to prevent memory issues when you're actually in combat
21:26.30hasteAmadeo: some games? you mean Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142?
21:26.40ckknightso please, test it out
21:26.50ckknightif you have issues with it, I'll try to tweak it
21:26.52AmadeoI honestly don't have any specific examples, I had a widescreen LCD once but I had to send it back due to defects
21:27.01ckknightbut I suspect it'll have a net gain in performance
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21:27.27hasteAmadeo: I don't know of any game that doesn't have widescreen support, except those two
21:27.39hasteAmadeo: heck, even Quake2 had widesreen support
21:27.48Amadeohehe
21:27.54Amadeowell that would be the lesser of the two evils for me
21:28.07Amadeothe main is trying to run games at 1680x1050 or higher with my usual crappy PCs :)
21:28.33Mimesisckk: that sounds like it might help in avoiding gcs in combat ya, but is it disabled when out of raid, and how often does it gc when out of combat
21:29.36ckknightMimesis: doesn't take raid into account, basically, whenever you change target, leave combat, or 30 seconds happens, a 5-second timer starts (or restarts) on the end of that timer, it checks to see if you are in combat/targetting an enemy. If not, it will GC.
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21:30.11ckknightit's basically meant to GC during "downtime"
21:30.36snurrehm, baron in 28mins with 5 alts and no tank :p
21:30.49yacoobnerf players? :)
21:31.04Ominouslol
21:31.07Mimesisim asking because, id rather it not gc constantly while im in if sorting through my bags, but i read that correctly, is should only fire once per each of those events, delayed 5 seconds
21:31.32ckknightMimesis: well, if a new event occurs, it'll reset the timer
21:31.54ckknightand if it is GCing constantly, it's very, very likely that you won't feel it happening.
21:32.02ckknightbut please, test it out
21:32.12Ominouswhat? yacoob?
21:32.15ckknightif you do have issues (such as with sorting through bags), I'll find a way around it.
21:32.26jaetehmm, so what's the difference between FuBar_ExperienceFu and FuBar_FuXPFu? :]
21:32.41ckknightjaete: FuXPFu shows an experience bar on the FuBar
21:32.49ckknightExperienceFu shows information in plugin-form
21:32.55ckknightI use both
21:32.57jaetergr
21:34.32Mimesisckk: one thing i know i dont want, is a gc every 30 seconds while just warlking around in IF, i know from manual gcing with performancefu that every gc, regardless of how small or how frequently is noticable, and annoying
21:35.06ckknightwell, test it out
21:35.10ckknightthat's all I'm asking
21:35.21Mimesisya :P, in the process of grabbing it
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21:35.32ckknightfor my setup, it doesn't seem noticeable at all.
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21:36.02jaeteis LocationFu supposed to give you coordinates on the map? or do you need NavigatorFu for that? or something else?
21:36.09Mimesisits just the trunk version i assume?
21:36.21ckknightyea
21:36.27ckknightno, jaete, use Cartographer.
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21:39.54ckknightthe question I have now is, does cladhaire have an account that lurks in this channel, or is someone feeding him information?
21:40.06ilifinwhat kind of information
21:40.32ckknightoh, the GC thing I'm working on right now
21:40.38ckknightapparently he's bitching at me now because of it
21:40.40Mimesisckk: well the jc clears are slightly annoying
21:40.47Mimesisgc*
21:40.55ckknightand I never mentioned it outside this channel outside this conversation
21:41.08ilifinbitching on you for garbage collecting?
21:41.12kagarothat would suggest a lurking account
21:42.30ckknightMimesis: hrm, okay
21:42.38Tekkubbrain worms
21:43.01axxoQuetzi = cladhair
21:43.12QuetziO_o
21:43.13sylvanaargood morning
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21:43.20cladhaireEveryone feeds me information
21:43.25axxo~err not
21:43.29axxobad script
21:43.35ckknightI just don't see why...
21:43.42TekkubI feed him hard throbbing cock
21:43.46cladhairebecause, they know bad ideas when they see them =)
21:43.57ckknightcladhaire: is it wrong to test something?
21:43.59axxothats an intersting bug
21:44.01ckknightI frankly don't think so
21:44.02Mimesisckk: the impact on the user is going to differ system to system, probably should have some options in there, time between idle gc's how long after each event to fire gc, which events fire gc, etc
21:44.03cladhaireno, testing it is fine
21:44.07cladhairesaying you want to put it in the core is
21:44.10cladhaireplain and simple
21:44.14cladhaireand i'm entitled to that opinion
21:44.26ckknightcladhaire: Jesus fucking Christ, I already explained that if the test failed that I would not do that.
21:44.30cladhairegiven the fact that I did in fact have a heavy hand in Ace, and at one point cared intimately about where it goes.
21:44.41cladhaireckknight: You're missing the point, considering putting somethign liek Catalyst in a core library, is a bad idea
21:44.42cladhaireregardless
21:44.49TekkubI think clad's point is, test or not it shouldn't happen
21:44.55cladhaireindeed
21:44.57Mikmahi, what's up
21:45.00cladhairebut that's an age old argument
21:45.04cladhaireabout what and what doesn't belong in a library core,
21:45.06cladhaireand i've lost that one
21:45.08ckknightTekkub: just like sending an addon message when you pick up loot is a bad idea?
21:45.09cladhaireso my opinion doesn't matter
21:45.10cladhaire<3
21:45.17cladhairehave a good evening everyone
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21:45.21ilifinstop arguing here and gief perfectraid
21:45.22ilifin:<
21:45.25Tekkubaddon message don't effect performance
21:45.41Mikmawhat's going on?
21:45.52Tekkubthe c's are fighting
21:45.56ckknightTekkub: I'm trying to improve performance, is all
21:45.58Mikmaoh ehhe
21:46.05MikmaTekkub: you bring the popcorn
21:46.15Tekkubyou're reverting people to pre-5.1 GC
21:46.16Mimesisi personally think this gc functionality would be better suited for its own addon, unless there is some reason that it needs to be put into the core
21:46.28TekkubMimesis is right
21:46.33Mimesisconfigurable and sich
21:46.38ckknightMimesis: if there are no flaws, it'd be fine
21:46.41ckknightbut it seems there are issues
21:47.01Tekkubby putting it in core you are forcing it on people that might not want it
21:47.02ckknightso it either needs to be tweaked or removed
21:47.18ckknightboth you and I know that users don't know what they want
21:47.27Fisker-Or options, with it default off
21:47.40Mimesisi actually like this idea, but
21:47.47Fisker-http://nov.4chan.org/f/src/halflifefullconciquences2.swf
21:47.55ckknightit's not a bad idea, I just think it needs to be tweaked
21:48.01kergothyou're going way beyond the scope of the addon.  performancefu is an informational addon, not an intrusive lua behavior changer
21:48.21ckknightkergoth: it was just a fucking test
21:48.30Wogroiplin agUF, is there a way to change the color of the names in the raidframes?
21:48.31ckknightnow stop ragging on me for a goddamn test.
21:48.39kergothi wont touch performancefu with a ten foot pole if you keep it in, successful test or no
21:48.41Mimesisthere are certain aspects that id like to have the option to turn off, like, id actually like a gc clear 5 seconds after combat ends, but i dont want one after targets changes occ, or every 30 seconds occ
21:48.44sylvanaarkergoth: there is some irony in what you said
21:49.10Fisker-It's his addon so what the "scope of the addon" is or was is not really any of your concern in my opinion
21:49.42ckknightI'm actually going to agree with Fisker- on that
21:49.47kergothas a user of hte addon, i have a right to express my opinion about its direction
21:49.56kergothif you cant deal with that, dont release it, take it off wowi, and go fuck off
21:50.04Fisker-Of course, but that wasn't an opinion
21:50.16Tekkubthe thing is the issue wasn't his addon
21:50.21ckknightI never said I didn't value your opinion, kergoth, and I think you're taking what I said way too far.
21:50.23Tekkubbut our library framework
21:50.36ckknightomg, everyone just shut up, I won't be putting it into the core
21:50.45ckknightconsider the matter closed.
21:51.11Mimesiswell please dont drop the idea tho
21:51.16Wogroiplcan you answer my question instead? ^^
21:51.31ckknightMimesis: apparently no one will accept it, so guess that's what happened
21:52.11kergothno, to clarify, people wont accept it in a place where they feel it doesnt belong
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21:52.26kergoththe concept isnt necessarily a bad one for users that want it
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21:52.29Mimesisckk: i generally force a gc with perffu, before engaging a boss in a raid zone, and other kind of times like that, id love an addon that would automate this for me
21:52.46ckknightMimesis: the point is to do it before a big boss and such, automatically
21:53.01bleetahhi all, i'm wondering why buggrabber is raping swatter -> http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20280 http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20282
21:53.19nevcairielhahaha
21:53.27nevcairielfirst one to ever ask that
21:53.30Fisker-Again i can't see what it hurts if it atleast just has a option to deactivate or otherwise specify some parametrers for how it's going to work
21:53.32bleetahI humbly suggest Swatter.enable = false is a much nicer way to disable it than setting it totally to nil
21:54.07Fisker-And considered that the SVN is suppoed to be a developement tool, i think it's ok to put it up as a test, if you don't want to participate you can always revert to the previos revision
21:54.08Mimesisso why not stick it into its own addon,  if the point is to do it before a big boss, then why not, when targetting a known boss (i think bigwigs has code for this) and not in combat, just do a gc clear
21:54.08kebinusanheh, couldnt you just edit your local copy of oRA or something to do a GC on a ready check, that would seem pretty much when you would want it
21:54.25nevcairieli cannot find any information on swatter on any UI page
21:54.30nevcairieli dont even know wtf it is :D
21:54.47Fisker-It's some auctionner bullshit
21:55.07Fisker-I believe it provides debug information similar of that to bugsack and !buggrabber
21:55.21bleetahbullshit?
21:55.23Fisker-I had to remove it since it took precedence over bugsack
21:55.26MentalPower|Codewhoa!
21:55.27CIA-1703ckknight * r22905 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - reverting back to before the automated GC was put in
21:55.27Fisker-yeah ^^
21:55.29bleetahtalk about bullshit = nilling the lot of it
21:55.41bleetahhow about you fucking call it properly then?
21:55.45bleetahfuck me, bullshit
21:55.51bleetahgrrr
21:55.55nevcairieljust remove buggrabber if you dont want it
21:55.57nevcairieland leave us alone
21:56.10bleetahwhy not swatter.enable = false?
21:56.16kergothuh?
21:56.24kergothbleetah, come back when you've got a fucking clue about lua, thanks
21:56.44MentalPower|Codehello, you're missing the point here, you guys are killing our mod, when its not even doing anything wrong to yours
21:56.52Amadeoso much fighting in here today :P
21:57.02MentalPower|Codethis is *NOT* in the spirit of the AddOn community
21:57.05bleetahraping would be a better adjective
21:57.24Tekkubup the ass!
21:57.24Fisker-Mikma
21:57.28Fisker-got anymore of them popcorns?
21:57.36Tekkubasrape == core ace value
21:57.48Amadeobrb
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21:57.54MentalPower|Codeactually not only our mod, but it looks like all the other bug display addons too
21:57.57Temgod I'm so sick of this crap
21:57.59Tekkuband furry fetishes, don't forget those
21:58.02MentalPower|CodeI mean, whats the point?
21:58.04Temyou guys make me want to vomit
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21:58.31ckknightMentalPower|Code: what are you referring to?
21:58.44kergothckknight,
21:58.44kergoth<bleetah> hi all, i'm wondering why buggrabber is raping swatter -> http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20280 http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20282
21:58.51MentalPower|Coderabbit's changes to BugGrabber
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21:59.12bleetahapparently it's fine MP
21:59.17bleetahwe don't know LUA and we should go away
21:59.25MentalPower|Code"Kill and disable !Swatter if found.", "Kill SVs as well.", "Kill VFL's error handler as well."
21:59.28MentalPower|Codeshall I go on?
22:00.17CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22906 10Prat/Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: duh, i was so tired i couldnt fix something that obvious
22:00.24Mimesisi kinda thing thats a wierd thing to put into bugrabber, why would users of buggrabber load those addons in the first place
22:00.29kergothbleetah, no, your ignorance of lua is obvious, from your statement about false and nil.  i'm not arguing that what bugsack is doing is right, i'm arguing that if you're going to make suggestions about improving the behavior, you should do so with a semblance of clue about the language.
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22:01.06MentalPower|CodeMimesis: installing several addons that do the same thing is commonplace
22:01.32MentalPower|CodeCT_RaidAssist, Blizzard's Raid AddOn, PerfectRaid, Grid, etc
22:01.41CIA-1703bima * r22907 10Rummage/README.txt: Rummage: wrapped for 80 column lines and fixed ender=>enter typo
22:01.54ThorgardNot quite.
22:02.15ThorgardI don't know anyone who installs more than one addon to do one job. :/
22:02.25sylvanaaromg
22:02.29sylvanaargtfo
22:03.08bleetahkergoth: get real, it was a suggestion, not a statement of fact. if you're gunna be so anal as not to say 'no, because (blah), we might get an idea as to what the fuck rabbit's trying to do there. Norgs, and a few others, stared at that code last night for a good few hours. Swatter.enable = false was not my suggestion.
22:03.30bleetahciao
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22:03.52Fisker-So wait he needs advice from other coders before making any code or what?
22:04.01sylvanaar~pedantic
22:04.03purlmethinks pedantic is if you're going to be pedantic, be correct!!! (maxim #1)
22:05.14AmadeoTwilight Zone Marathon on Sci-Fi <3
22:05.34Fisker-screw that
22:05.42Fisker-#wowace on Freenode beats any show on the air
22:05.44sylvanaargod i was tired this am
22:05.56KemayoIs it just me, or has there been an explosion of developmentally-challeneged drama over this past week?
22:05.56AmadeoDoesn't beat Heroes!
22:06.22sylvanaarsometimes people like to be indignant
22:06.49sylvanaarthat includes everyone
22:07.01sylvanaaryou just cant let it go on and on
22:07.50WogroiplI'm trying to edit a layout file from agUF, so the raidframes look better for me, but is there a way to add a color to the namelabel text?
22:08.22GngskWogroipl, you try adding color codes like c|| ?
22:08.51Fisker-Anyways one hours till new years eve for me, so better get back to good ol boring irl drama :(
22:08.59Fisker-bbl :P
22:09.31WogroiplGngsk: do you mean adding a line with color = 1,1,1 or something?
22:09.49WogroiplI am a coding nub :P
22:10.11ckknightMentalPower|Code: oh, the reason !BugGrabber disables Swatter is because they conflict, afaik.
22:10.16ckknightunless I'm mistaken
22:10.18GngskWogroipl, http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences
22:10.28MentalPower|Codeno, they don't
22:10.51WogroiplGngsk: thank you
22:10.52MentalPower|Codethey both use geterrorhandler(), and if you really wanted to be the only one present, you would just tell the user
22:10.57ckknightokay, well, let me look at the code.
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22:11.40Ominousargh i hate this country
22:11.45Ominousthe weather is horrible
22:12.15A_you live in a country with only one weather zone?
22:12.36AmadeoEveryone knows weather comes from the ground and stops at borders
22:12.42sylvanaarckknight: Thats what it does
22:12.43ckknightMentalPower|Code: okay, instead of disabling, I'll inform the user and such, which seems reasonable
22:13.00ckknightand they do conflict, since they both use seterrorhandler
22:13.11sylvanaarckknight: any coder worth his salt knows that instinctually
22:13.24MentalPower|Codebut they get() first
22:13.27ckknightsylvanaar: wait, what are you referring to?
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22:13.52MentalPower|Codeat least !Swatter does, and lets the error fall thru if we're not currently enabled
22:14.00sylvanaarckknight: your having to explain that to those ppl
22:14.19ckknightexplain what?
22:14.24ckknightI'm not following, sorry
22:14.28ckknightwe talking about !BugGrabber?
22:14.33sylvanaarckknight: nevermind
22:14.45ckknightsylvanaar: or are you talking about the GC test?
22:14.53MentalPower|Codesylvanaar: "those people" are your coleages and fellow AddOn developers
22:15.33ckknightI don't see why they're necessarily colleagues...
22:15.52ckknighthonestly, I don't want tension in the community or between the communities
22:16.01ckknightbut some people stir up trouble for the sake of it
22:16.08ckknightwhich is wrong in and of itself
22:16.13vid`ckknight!
22:16.17vid`you rock btw
22:16.19ckknightyes, vid`?
22:16.23ckknightthank you
22:16.24ckknightit's true.
22:16.33vid`for putting in that combat hide tooltips
22:16.33odthappy new year from estonia :)
22:16.37vid`in fubar
22:16.37vid`~
22:16.42ckknightvid`: ;-)
22:16.58ckknightodt: I like the sash, but do the Huggies make my ass look big?
22:17.01grennonparty like its 1999 dawg
22:17.02ThraeWhat happens if you play two sounds in a row? Do they get mixed, or does it just ignore the second?
22:17.08vid`i dunno if im gonna go out
22:17.11vid`i might be a hermit tonight
22:17.13vid`and just play wow~
22:17.15vid`lol
22:17.28vid`kinda tired, spent last 3 days working on my car
22:17.30Bleeterckknight: all I asked was why swatter was getting raped, which is a fairly accurate description. being described by #wowace community as 'some auctioneer bullshit' and being told to 'go away' doesn't endear your channel to others, and reflects badly on the project
22:17.31vid`im too soar to even move
22:17.35grennonplay wow? now theres an idea, my toon has been sitting in front of a mailbox the past 3 days
22:17.56vid`i disabled swatter
22:17.56vid`:\
22:18.02vid`cause i have bugsack/buggrabber
22:18.06ckknightBleeter: well, I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you were referring to
22:18.10hanzzonckknight; when I updated from Cartographer r22714 > r22855 the map lost it's autochange ability when in instances, i.e. I did not get the Stratholme map when I was in Stratholme but instead WPL...
22:18.14ckknightBleeter: and you know what I'm doing? I'm fixing it now.
22:18.20Bleeterckknight: thankyou
22:18.25Bleetergreatly appreciated
22:18.37ThorgardBleeter, don't think you can call one person the 'wowace community', either. ;P
22:18.42ckknighthanzzon: I am busy. you can clearly tell that I'm busy. go to the Cartographer wiki page and look under "How to file a bug"
22:19.00vid`im a sick individual
22:19.01vid`btw
22:19.02Bleetervid`: that's the issue. buggrabber squashes swatter in a not-so-friendly manner. it's being fixed now (they'll now happily live together)
22:19.07vid`i have an addiction
22:19.11hanzzonckknight; sorry, don't have time for that
22:19.12vid`ace mods
22:19.13vid`jesus
22:19.21vid`WAU shows 147/416
22:19.22vid`:(
22:19.28ckknightBleeter: well, actually no, !Swatter will not work, seeing as they conflict, but the user will be informed about what's happening
22:19.31vid`but i use em all :P
22:19.31ckknightand it'll be "nicer"
22:19.50sylvanaarhanzzon: watch this
22:19.58sylvanaar~luaser
22:19.59purlmethinks luaser is "Just tell me what i want to know so I dont have to waste my time, just yours"
22:20.01ckknighthanzzon: then I can't help you.
22:20.02Bleeterckknight: heh, that 'works' for me ;-)
22:20.51grennonjust rename it !!Swatter, problem solved
22:20.59grennon<ducks>
22:21.11hasteor better!
22:21.12hanzzonsylvanaar; whatever, it's new years eve and I'm off, was just posting a note, even if you don't beleive it I have not been sitting all night reading this channel
22:21.13hasteSwatter :)
22:21.17Bleeterwe contemplated having swatter nil all of ace ... but decided the community may not like that :P
22:21.38sylvanaarhanzzon: OMG SO AM I
22:21.58axxoBleeter: so you want todo what you here to complain about?
22:22.09vid`Bleeter: you an auctioneer dev?
22:22.12grennonyeah, i hear you, im going to have the new GMail give the user cystic acne and halotosis if they are running any ctmods
22:22.39Hajitorusgrennon: May not be necessary.
22:22.40DarkImakunilol
22:22.43MentalPower|CodeDo not do onto others as you would not like them to do to you.
22:22.47vid`lol @ both grennon and Hajitorus
22:22.50ckknightBleeter: they conflict, they cannot work together, !BugGrabber was taking preemptive measures to make sure they didn't conflict.
22:23.08MentalPower|Codepreemptive measures that were just plain wrong
22:23.27MentalPower|Codethe commit message even suggests the intent
22:23.41Bleeterit would've been nice if someone came over to #norganna and said 'hey, we want to disable swatter cleanly, what do you suggest'
22:23.48sylvanaarBleeter: because, the person who changed it knew that 2000030423043204 people would come on here and say "omg X doesnt work" because they were running both at the same time like moron
22:23.49ThraeHmm seems WoW doesn't blend PlaySoundFile()s back to back
22:24.06ckknightBleeter: "Info: |cffffff7f!BugGrabber|r and |cffffff7f!Swatter|r cannot coexist together. |cffffff7f!Swatter|r has been disabled because of this. If you want to, you may exist out, disable |cffffff7f!BugGrabber|r and reenable |cffffff7f!Swatter|r."
22:24.24grennons/exist/exit/
22:24.33ckknightthanks, grennon
22:24.40sylvanaars/wokr/woke/
22:25.04MentalPower|Codeckknight: note that BugGrabber also does that to VLF
22:25.19ckknightBleeter: we honestly did not mean _any_ bad blood by disabling !Swatter, it was just to prevent bugs down the line by their coexistence
22:25.28ckknightMentalPower|Code: I'll put a note for VLF as well.
22:25.30MentalPower|Codehttp://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20838
22:25.35Bleeterckknight: it threw a bug in our direction, tho ;)
22:25.40ckknightreally?
22:25.48sylvanaarMentalPower|Code: thet are like debuggers, you cant install more than one
22:25.49ckknightwhat's the bug?
22:25.51MentalPower|Codehttp://auctioneeraddon.com/scm/changeset/1275
22:25.53Bleeteryeah, swatter was erroring out with a nil
22:26.07Bleetercalled inside a swatter function, which confused the hell out of norgs til we tracked it down
22:26.28Bleeterlemme find it
22:26.49grennonisnt vfl that heavy gui toolkit that rdx uses?
22:26.56ckknightBleeter: so how can I disable !Swatter gracefully?
22:27.04sylvanaarBleeter: are you saying that some user was running both, and had issues
22:27.29Bleeterhttp://norganna.pastey.net/4258
22:28.08ckknightwhere can I get it from?
22:28.19DarkImakuniauctioneeraddon.com
22:28.25MentalPower|Code"SwatterData.enable = false"
22:28.27DarkImakuniit's part of the latest alpha
22:28.45Bleeterhttp://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/Swatter
22:30.37ckknightweird, Bleeter, why don't you use colon syntax?
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22:31.13AmadeoBleeter: Didn't you come in cussing and stuff?
22:31.19grennonits very simple bleeter, they just copy and paste it like i do
22:31.25vid`hahah
22:31.34ckknightBleeter: I'm sorry for whoever said that, and I don't believe either side was originally cordial, but I'm glad we're working together now
22:31.36Bleeterno, i got told the project I was on was bullshit
22:31.41ckknightalso, goddammit, it's Ace, not ACE.
22:31.44Bleeterfrom there, I figured the cussing was fine
22:31.48MikmaACE2?
22:31.55grennonoh come on, a little cross-mod trash talk is health :-)
22:31.59Bleeterckknight: rightio on the Ace... gaim gets that all the time ;-)
22:32.00grennonhealthy
22:32.04vid`ctmailmod > gmail imo
22:32.06vid`:P
22:32.06Bleetergaim/GAIM/Gaim
22:32.10ckknightgAIM
22:32.14Bleeterrofl
22:32.22Amadeo/Miranda-IM
22:32.23MentalPower|Codeand Lua not LUA :)
22:32.33vid`hows gmail2 goin grennon
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22:32.35Bleeteryeah, ok, my bad! :P
22:32.46grennonglad im not the only guy using Gaim for IRC, but they stopped making Xchat for windows or some bullshit a while back
22:32.51Bleeterckknight: what was that about colon syntax?
22:33.13Bleeterckknight: be aware that most stuff in the auctioneer complete pack, is not down to me.. so, erm, I really have no idea ;-)
22:33.20grennonvid`: pretty good, about to commit some changes to Postal tonight, the lib for it
22:33.28sylvanaarfyi, if anyone is using the prat development version please update
22:33.30ckknightBleeter: hang on, I have a coding tip about it.
22:33.50ckknightBleeter: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips#Function_syntactical_sugar
22:33.54grennonvid`: then if im feeling risky, ill upload the first rev of gmail itself to branch, it will just add an Open All button to the mail UI
22:34.04vid`:)
22:34.07vid`sweet
22:34.09grennonand tekkub style shortcuts to opening mail
22:34.14yacoobgaim for irc? sick.
22:34.16yacoob8)
22:34.30grennonyacoob: its actually pretty clean
22:34.54kergothgrennon, silverex.org
22:34.58CIA-1703beerke * r22908 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.lua KingOfTheJungleUITabs.lua):
22:34.58CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
22:34.58CIA-17- Ordered food based on amount restored
22:34.58CIA-17- Added ordering override with ctrl+lclick and ctrl+rclick, resp. move higher or lower in list
22:35.12sylvanaarckknight: thats a really handy page, thanks for making it
22:35.14Bleeterckknight: oh, that. dunno, I just inherit the style of whatever project I stumble in to
22:35.27yacoobgrennon, probably, but it still scares me ;>
22:35.36ckknightBleeter: feel free to show that page to your other coding buddies. It's not ace-specific
22:35.57grennonyacoob: it was pretty rouch in gaim 1.x but seems to have gotten really nice in gaim 2.x
22:35.58Bleeterckknight: fwiw, I did try to catch hold of you and industrial in #wowi-lounge before I came in here
22:36.03grennons/rouch/rough/
22:36.09ckknightBleeter: didn't get the message.
22:36.18yacoobgrennon, as long as I can, I'll stick to irssi :E
22:36.21Bleeteryeah, np on that. figured you were afk, so I came here
22:36.31ckknightunless it's the "glances at ckknight and Industrial, and goes back to making coffee"
22:36.39ckknightand if so, I had no idea what you were talking about
22:36.47Bleeterah, yeah, was just before that. asking for people from wowace.com
22:37.04Bleetersorry, empty coffeemug. i just noticed I didn't name you thus you wouldn't have got a ping
22:37.12Bleeterirssi ftw!
22:37.26yacoobit's the irc client that sucks less.
22:37.37Bleeterhehe too true
22:37.51Mimesishey grennon: delete checked mails incomming with gmail2?
22:38.01grennoniduno
22:38.25grennonthe "Open Selected" will try to purge them automatically though
22:38.34Mimesisor forward checked mails to <recipient>, just some thoughts
22:38.49grennonso it will check the message, and if its not from the AH, it will try to delete it
22:39.04grennonwhereas AH messages go away on their own
22:39.06Mimesiseven mails with items in then
22:39.49grennonit will check the mail header, if it has an item and/or money, it will snarf them, then delete the mail
22:40.12Mimesiswhats a snarf :S
22:40.32grennonits how a snork takes something
22:40.45ckknightBleeter: I'm not even sure why BugGrabber removed the contents of Swatter.
22:41.04Bleeterckknight: we couldn't work that out either
22:41.05Mimesisto be more specific was looking for a delete check mails (including item contents) but really not a huge priority i assume
22:41.15ckknightBleeter: removing that part, then
22:41.34Bleeterthe only logical explanation was that RDX is injecting something that effects our stuff, thus VFL is also being nailed
22:41.37grennonwhy would you want to delete the items?
22:41.42CIA-1703ominous * r22909 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Oops, local variable overriding global
22:41.54ckknightgrennon: I just don't know.
22:41.56sylvanaarBleeter: because the coder that changed it was probably having to deal with too many bug reports from people running both
22:42.10grennoni meant that for Mimesis :-)
22:42.35grennonunless your that guy who got mailbombed to keep him from transferring
22:42.43Mimesisgrennon: oh, well, lets say for honor tokens, i have 200 + mails in my mail
22:43.16ckknightBleeter: okay, I got it so it disables, shoots a warning to the user, removes slash commands and unregisters ADDON_ACTION_FORBIDDEN and ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED from your frame.
22:43.20Mimesisthat id like to just get rid of, but like, im sure there are other reasons people might want that feature, might be best to require a "delete" editbox tho
22:43.33Bleetersylvanaar: see previous comment about /join #norganna 'is there a nice way to do this' or 'we're going to do it this way because... watch out'
22:43.40Bleeterckknight: roger that, thanks
22:44.22Ominousgrid causes Interface\FrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:816: table index is nil:, is it a blizz error?
22:44.33Dranoryes
22:44.46Dranorwait for 2.0.3 to see a fix
22:45.27Dranoralso, happy new year from Spain
22:45.41Ominousgz, 1h15 here
22:45.49DarkImakuniwhat happened to 2.0.2? is that the version in the PTR?
22:45.54Mimesisdid aguf scale or size or something get changed today
22:46.13Mimesissomehow updated and it seems off, but i cant pu my finger on it
22:46.22vid`yea
22:46.26Kirkburn|afkDarkImakuni, I think it died
22:46.28vid`i noticed that last night
22:46.34vid`i think the scale reset to 100%
22:46.37vid`cause i had mine to 90%
22:46.40DarkImakunilol kirk :P
22:46.40Mimesischangenotes says something about it
22:46.44vid`and it was 100% when i logged in
22:46.44Mimesismy scale didnt change
22:46.53Mimesismine is at 115% still
22:46.58vid`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-802497724785554008&q=tito+chuck&hl=en
22:47.02Mimesisbut the height of the frame changed
22:47.05vid`last night's ufc fight if anyone is intereted
22:47.28Mimesisthanks for that
22:47.30snurreDarkImakuni: it was a victim of the new patch structure afaik
22:47.34Mimesisthe vid i mean
22:48.39snurreanyway *off*
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22:52.19CIA-1703ckknight * r22910 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber - much friendlier when disabling !Swatter. No longer wipes their tables, instead informs the user, disables the addon, unregisters the ADDON_ACTION_(BLOCKED/FORBIDDEN) events, and removes the slash commands.
22:52.28ckknightBleeter: ^---
22:53.31sylvanaarheh
22:53.53CIA-1703bima * r22911 10TalentSafe/TalentSafe.toc: TalentSafe: twiddled caps: myAddons => myAddOns
22:54.17Bleeterckknight: thanks mate, looks a *lot* nicer :) have a safe and prosperous new year :D
22:54.24ckknightyou too
22:54.30Bleeterckknight: I'm sure you'll hear from norgs or MP if they don't like it hehe
22:54.31ckknightbut not too prosperous
22:54.37Bleeterlol :-P
22:54.38ckknightwouldn't want you to get an ulcer
22:54.45ckknightMP?
22:54.47Bleeteralready had enough of them in my life :/
22:54.49ckknightMentalPower?
22:54.53Bleeteryeah
22:54.53ckknightick
22:55.07Bleeteraltohugh, he's moving house soon, so probably won't be around much for a week or so
22:55.16sylvanaarvhaar was just pissed that day
22:55.54sylvanaari dont think anyone intended for that to stay in..so cheers
22:56.26axxothey claim there is a reason to get exalted with timbermaw before tbc anyone heared anything about this?
22:56.59sylvanaarmeat is murder
22:57.16ckknightI can live with that.
22:59.24ckknightI've eaten poi
22:59.51ckknightno, it's just crushed taro
23:00.23DarkImakunilol I though silv said you eat points of interest :P
23:00.47DarkImakunis/though silv/thought sylv/
23:01.40vid`whats TalentSafe?
23:02.02vid`oh confirmation
23:02.03vid`cool
23:03.58sylvanaarwait
23:04.12CIA-1703bima * r22912 10TalentSafe/TalentSafe.toc: TalentSafe: removed $ from version per wiki/TOC_Metadata
23:04.21ckknightalright, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips#Registering_events_with_AceEvent-2.0_sanely
23:04.23ckknightnew tip
23:04.26CIA-1703bima * r22913 10Rummage/Rummage.toc: Rummage: removed $ from version per wiki/TOC_Metadata
23:04.35ckknightit applies to the SCT author :-P
23:05.04sylvanaari have a question
23:05.11sylvanaarabout ace-OO
23:05.12Tornhoofis there any speed difference there?
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23:05.37ckknightTornhoof: oh yes.
23:05.49Tornhoofnm, it does those if clauses atleast two times
23:06.16nymbiaglobal event is icky
23:06.45ckknightadd to the tips, people.
23:06.49sylvanaarI dont understand how aceoo method invokation works
23:06.59ckknightsylvanaar: what do you mean?
23:07.20sylvanaarcan you relate it to C++, or java
23:07.40ckknightokay
23:07.49ckknightwhat do you mean by method invocation, then?
23:07.56ckknightcalling methods?
23:07.59ckknightinheritance?
23:08.01sylvanaarin a derived class which implements a method thats defined in the prototype
23:08.14ckknightright
23:08.18sylvanaarand when methods are called from both the class and the prototype
23:08.28sylvanaarwhich ones get called
23:08.35Tornhoofderived > parent
23:08.52ckknightif you override the method, the new one will be used.
23:09.03sylvanaarno matter where its called from?
23:09.19sylvanaareven the prototype?
23:10.26CIA-1703ominous * r22914 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/RuleSet.lua: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - oops MoS error
23:10.26sylvanaaris ace-oo really a shorthand for copying a table which contains functions?
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23:10.41Tornhoofthat's how i understood it mainly
23:11.21sylvanaarand its prototype functions have to be called manually if you implement them?
23:11.45sylvanaarself.super:MyFunct(self,...)
23:11.57ckknightAceOO does a few extra things, but that's pretty much it.
23:12.10ckknightthe prototype is what you become when you call :new
23:12.16sylvanaarright
23:12.20ckknightsylvanaar: I recommend looking at the tutorial.
23:12.23sylvanaari did
23:12.39ckknightthe AceOO tutorial?
23:12.43ckknightwith the monkeys?
23:12.44sylvanaaryeah
23:12.49ckknighthrm
23:12.51Tornhoofckknight, which reminds me is it possible to have an implemented init() function in a virtual class, and other implemented init() functions in the derived classes?
23:12.52sylvanaari cant follow the monkey thing
23:12.55ckknightI thought that should explain it...
23:13.06ckknightoh yes, Tornhoof
23:13.24Tornhoofcouldn't figure the syntax for the parent:init() stuff out then
23:13.29ckknightTornhoof: constructor inheritance and overriding is an important feature
23:13.32Ominoushmm AceModuleCore-2.0-21157 (Ace2):297: C stack overflow
23:13.41ckknightoh, MyClass.super.prototype.init(self)
23:13.48ckknightOminous: full debugstack?
23:13.51Tornhoofdidn't work here
23:14.02sylvanaarok, is there a style for creating virtual function?
23:14.04Ominoushappens whn i leave a BG
23:14.27ckknightOminous: I need a full debugstack.
23:14.29Ominousoh
23:14.37Ominousoki pastying it
23:14.39ckknightsylvanaar: what's a virtual function supposed to do, again?
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23:14.59ckknightI bet we support it, under a different name or something
23:15.09sylvanaarwell, i was assuming that the prototype method would always be executed
23:15.15Ominoushttp://ace.pastey.net/4268
23:15.19Ominousits not just module core
23:15.31Ominousit also happens on ace event
23:15.33pastamancersuper needs to be explicitly called
23:15.49sylvanaaryes, i have realized that now
23:16.07ckknightOminous: get the most recent Glory-2.0?
23:16.14ckknightsylvanaar: otherwise you override it.
23:16.43Ominoushmm ill check
23:17.22Ominousyes i have
23:17.54CIA-1703darkimakuni * r22915 10FuBar_uFriends/ (. Core.lua):
23:17.54CIA-17FuBar_uFriends:
23:17.54CIA-17- Bugfix
23:18.12sylvanaaris there a sugary way to do call the base implementation?
23:18.40pastamancerself.super.prototype.foo(self, ...) is as sugary as it gets
23:19.27sylvanaarok, its clear
23:19.46pastamancerif you've done any OOP in perl, it's very similar
23:20.13sylvanaaris there a way Tornhoof make super:foo(...)
23:20.40sylvanaars/Tornhoof/to/
23:20.54jaetehmm... what's the correct way, or the correct moment, to scan stuff like action bars and talents? it appears those are sometimes visible at OnEnable(), sometimes not, or something
23:21.11jaetecatch some event, then check them in the handler was it? which event?
23:21.20pastamancersylvanaar: don't think so.  lua only has lexical scoping, not dynamic scoping
23:22.47sylvanaarits very close to self.Foo(self,...) -> self:Foo(...), but, my Lua knowledge only goes so far
23:23.17sylvanaardoes self.super:foo(...) work?
23:23.52ckknightno
23:23.57ckknightself.super.foo(self, ...)
23:24.41ckknightsince self.super:foo(...) => self.super.foo(self.super, ...)
23:24.59sylvanaarself:super.foo(...) ?
23:25.39Tornhoofhmm ckknight, i can't add my own arguments to super.init() can I?
23:25.48ckknightno reason why not.
23:25.57ckknightI like to
23:26.17ckknightfunction Monkey.prototype:init(name) self.name = name end
23:26.29ckknightslappy = Monkey:new("Slappy")
23:26.46ckknighteveryone loves Slappy the monkey
23:27.05Tornhoofyes but if monkey is derived from ape
23:27.15ckknightactually, it's function Monkey.prototype:init(name) Monkey.super.prototype.init(self); self.name = name end
23:27.27ckknightTornhoof: lemme pastey something
23:27.31Tornhoofand i implement function Ape.prototype:init(derivedself)
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23:29.16ckknighthttp://ace.pastey.net/4269
23:29.47Tornhoofah ok
23:29.54Tornhoofi always did init(anotherself,myargs)
23:30.16Tornhoofthanks
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23:31.20ckknightSlappy wears a pirate suit.
23:31.48Tornhoofyou should add that to the tutorial
23:32.08ckknightcould be worthwhile
23:32.09sylvanaarso you have to actually say self.super.prototype(self,...)
23:32.37ckknightsylvanaar: no, MyClass.super.prototype.init(self, ...)
23:32.42sylvanaaryeah for init
23:32.50sylvanaarbut elsewhere
23:33.46sylvanaarself.super.prototype.foo(self,...) or self.super.foo(self, ...)
23:33.53ckknightno.
23:34.04ckknightMyClass.super.prototype.foo(self, ...)
23:34.06ckknightself doesn't have .super
23:34.51Hajitorusthe object doesn't have a super but the class does?
23:35.04sylvanaarit confuses me
23:35.20sylvanaarand i have been developing OO for 10 years
23:36.08sylvanaarperhaps thats why it confuses me
23:37.26sylvanaaryou can say x = MyClass.super.prototype right?
23:37.31Ominoushow come adding ## LoadOnDemand: 1 ## X-S&D-Placeholder: true  to BigWigs and oRA, works in bigwigs but not ora?
23:38.17sylvanaarthen x.foo(self, ...)
23:38.19ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOO-2.0_Tutorial#Constructors_with_inheritance
23:38.27ckknightyes, sylvanaar
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23:40.34RaydenUnihello
23:40.42ckknighthey.
23:40.45ckknighthow's things?
23:40.52RaydenUniis there an ace mod that shows how much gold/hr you get from mobs?
23:40.59sylvanaarnow all i'd need is a way to remove the self from x.foo(self, ...)
23:41.08RaydenUnii had a plugin for this last time i played and if there is an ace one i'd prefer to use that
23:41.26ckknightsylvanaar: lol, no way currently
23:41.35ckknightRaydenUni: MoneyFu
23:42.51HealthHmm.. I can't seem to learn Prowl from my pet?
23:42.57HealthAnyone with hunter experience? :p
23:43.07RaydenUnickknight what does that have to do with mobs?
23:43.36DarkImakuniI'm a Hunter... just keep trying
23:43.42ckknightRaydenUni: it tracks money/hr
23:43.42RaydenUniwhat does FarmerFu do?
23:43.43DarkImakuniyou'll get it eventually
23:44.09RaydenUniim thinking of something mob specific. so you can also know % on drops and stuff
23:44.12HealthDarkImakuni: Thanks :
23:44.20Healthwoot
23:44.21Healthgot it
23:44.27DarkImakuniRaydenUni: FarmerFu allows you to track items you are farming for, like Un'Goro Power Stones
23:45.12DarkImakuniRaydenUni: try MobInfo2
23:46.08RaydenUnii don't see MobInfo on the ace updater
23:46.13sylvanaarckknight: in my example is there any way to make x act like self? to acomplis that
23:46.22DarkImakunithats because it's not ace
23:46.22ckknightno
23:47.04RaydenUnioh ok
23:47.11GngskMikma, ping
23:47.16RaydenUniso there isn't one similar to that for oce?
23:47.50ckknightno
23:47.56RaydenUniok, thanks
23:48.43DarkImakuniRaydenUni: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1349/mobinfo-2-includes-mobhealth/ :)
23:48.52RaydenUniyeah i found it there
23:49.26CIA-1703nymbia * r22916 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua: SpellBinder: Globals for keybinding menu header.
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23:50.11DarkImakuniwell, gtg... gonna celebrate new year with the family... only 10 mins left! better make the most of it
23:50.20Slaymanhappy new year
23:50.26DarkImakunisee you in 2007 :)
23:51.26sylvanaari guess it could be done with metatable __index and _newindex, but that would proabably break ace-oo or no?
23:51.33RaydenUniwoah
23:51.38RaydenUnisomeone has a huge database for mobinfo2
23:51.39RaydenUnisweet
23:52.12nymbiawhy would you need that?
23:52.43RaydenUniso it already has info on mobs before i fight them
23:52.43sylvanaarim just going to make it easy and use delegation
23:53.14RaydenUnihowever, the zip is corrupt
23:53.16RaydenUnioh well
23:53.25ckknightsylvanaar: it'd break AceOO and be inefficient.
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23:53.41ckknightsylvanaar: what're you trying to do?
23:53.54grennonmobhealth3 works fine for me
23:54.14MikmaGngsk: pong
23:54.19nymbiaRaydenUni: it has their health and what else?
23:54.22sylvanaarckknight: yeah, i'd just really like a better sytax for calling base implementations, so i will use new names and call them from the prototypw
23:54.23RaydenUnii don't know
23:54.33RaydenUnii forget what mobinfo2 gives
23:54.36RaydenUnidrop %? xp?
23:54.56ckknightsylvanaar: I'd say just get used to the syntax instead :-P
23:55.07ckknightthere's a reason it was designed that way
23:55.25Tullerprobably to force some sort of habit
23:55.52sylvanaarprototype:OnInitialize() -> prototype:OnInitialize() prototype:Prat_OnInitialize() end
23:55.58RaydenUniforce a habit using what plugin?
23:58.27RaydenUniwhat is OneRing?
23:58.27RaydenUnionebag and onebank make sense
23:59.18GngskMikma, try this out http://ace.pastey.net/4270

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