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00:00.15ag`haha
00:01.27TainYou could get hired by Blizzard like Anduin.  And then get fired.
00:01.31ggilbertWith all of that money they're making, you think the authors could afford to customize the theme for their web site.
00:01.42MikmaTain: whaaaaaaaaaat? :D
00:02.28CIA-1703evilelvis * r22664 10eeMon/credits.txt: eeMon: touch to update libs
00:03.01CIA-1703evilelvis * r22665 10eeShards/credits.txt: eeShards: touch to update libs
00:03.10ckknight|workMikma: he was hired on as a QA guy, then got fired for using IRC at work
00:03.14CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22666 10Prat/Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: better method of reducing AddMessage interference
00:03.37CIA-1703evilelvis * r22667 10FuBar_agufFu/credits.txt: FuBar_agufFu: touch to update libs
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00:03.59Mikmackknight|work: omfg that's funny :D
00:04.06anenigma\o/
00:04.10TainHe was also reprimanded for using Cosmos, although I don't know if that hahd anything to do with it at all.
00:04.34anenigmaThorgard: fyi, I had 'hide_text_style' ON :/  dunno why it got switched on, but meh, fixed
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00:05.32HajitorusHow is damagemeters so popular? :(  Even swstats seems better.
00:05.40ckknight|workTain: he couldn't use
00:05.44ckknight|workCosmos cause it datamines
00:05.56TainPopularity doesn't have anything to do with how good something is.
00:08.03ckknight|worklook at Titan
00:08.03alcarasdamagemeters gives you last fight dps
00:08.03ggilbertPopularity usually is more a matter of being good enough first
00:08.03alcarassw stats doesn't :(
00:08.03ckknight|workand Cosmos, and CT, and Discord
00:08.04ckknight|workand Ace
00:08.04ckknight|workjk
00:08.05TainI'm running AceCTRA myself.
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00:08.06Hajitorusdoes that in the newer versions ... but yeah, good enough first sounds right.
00:08.14ggilbertI have to give CT credit for putting out a nice all in one package for people who don't want to work too much.
00:08.28ckknight|worktrue, ggilbert
00:08.36ckknight|workbut some of Cide's methods are questionable
00:08.37ckknight|workat best
00:08.43ggilbertThat could be :)
00:08.44TainI give everyone credit for trying to do things.
00:08.45kenlyricthat's why I use Ace... it's even lazier than CT ;)
00:08.57TainIt's just a sliding scale of how much credit.
00:09.17TainI'm like Equiserve
00:09.31ag`ckknight|work: methods?
00:09.55ckknight|workag`: like with the CTRA 2.0 compatibility kerfuffle
00:10.09ag`kerfuffle?
00:10.36ag`I am not much into what happened with CTRA and oRA and 2.0
00:11.04ckknight|workAmmo went to Cide and asked to collaborate on a common comm API they could both use happily
00:11.08ckknight|workCide said "go away"
00:11.14ag`cute
00:11.18Mikmaag`: did you check out the texture i put in agUF? :D
00:11.21ggilbertnice
00:11.26ag`Mikma: nope
00:11.28ckknight|workthough maybe not in such a nice tone
00:11.38Mikmaag`: well, look, it's called Round :)
00:11.59Mikmai'm remaking it when i find the interest for it, there's small graphical glitches that i'm not liking
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00:13.22CIA-1703karlthepagan 07Karl * r22668 10Bits/Bits/Bits-1.0/Bits-1.0.lua:
00:13.22CIA-17Bits:
00:13.22CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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00:15.25CIA-1703kagaro * r22669 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: got updated and verified spawn locations for felwddo plants
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00:16.10Antiar1Anyone else unable to connect to Cenarion Circle?
00:16.12ckknight|workfelwddo
00:16.23kagarorofl cant spell tonight
00:16.38kagarogota go feed the cat back shortly
00:16.48BankZdo you guys have anything like the CTMod's Breakable bar?
00:17.10Antiar1what's it do?
00:18.16phreakyI think it breaks up the original blizzard bar to movable parts
00:18.24ckknight|workwhat bar?
00:18.29phreakyactionbar
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00:18.32Antiar1action bars, I suspect
00:18.33phreakyand bags etc
00:19.18ckknight|workuse Bartender3
00:19.23ckknight|workor something like that
00:19.26BankZyeah, lets your break blizards bar up
00:23.31Neeblerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJq4AGU8744&eurl=
00:23.34Neeblershoes. omg!
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00:23.55HajitorusBetch.
00:24.03CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22670 10Prat/Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: fix per chat frame show/display of chat channels
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00:29.59Rophydoes  "for i=1, n" run faster than "for i in ipairs" ?
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00:31.24ckknight|workyes, Rophy
00:31.31Rophy1: n = #t; for i=1, n, 1 do v=t[i] ... end
00:31.31Rophy2: for i, v in ipairs(t) do ... end
00:31.36Rophyso go for (1) ?
00:31.55ckknight|workI'd honestly go for the second, cause it's easier and the difference is negligible
00:32.02ckknight|workalso, there's no reason to store the n.
00:32.12ckknight|worksince the [start, end] is calculated only once.
00:32.21Rophyhmm
00:32.23kagarock, i lost too much scrollback were you ok with me changeing setNoteFromComm to a member var?
00:32.45ckknight|workkagaro: it seems odd and like there's a better way to do it.
00:33.34kagarohow so? other than adding another handler interface
00:33.40Rophyckknight: the [start, end] is calculated only once? so if I actually modified the n in the loop, the loop itself will not be affected?
00:33.56ckknight|workright.
00:34.04Rophyi.e.  for i=1, n do   n = n + 1 end  ,   the loop will finish?
00:34.12Mikmaomfg, i jsut found a "Round corners" from Gimp!
00:34.12ckknight|workyes, afaik
00:34.15ckknight|worktest it out, though
00:34.25Rophyokay cool
00:34.52ckknight|worklua -e 'n=5; for i=1, n do  n = n + 1 end' seems to work fine
00:35.26Rophyyup seems to work for me too
00:35.46Rophybtw I said Ace2 couldn't run in lua5.1 binary, someone seems fixed it in the newest Ace2.
00:42.32TemRophy, we have some wow-isms in there
00:42.45Rophywow-isms?
00:42.48Temso, no, it shouldn't work in a straight 5.1 binary
00:43.06Temthings that are unique to the wow environment
00:43.09Wobble<PROTECTED>
00:43.13Rophysuch as?
00:43.18Temgeterrorhandler
00:43.23Tem:SetScript
00:43.27TemCreateFrame
00:43.31Temect
00:43.32Barbanusfrom my understanding strsplit is one of them
00:43.49Rophyit works for me after adding my wowAPI stub file.
00:44.01Rophygeterrorhandler = error etc
00:44.11Tembut geterrorhandler is not error
00:44.18Temand it shouldn't return error, either
00:44.49ckknight|workWobble: didn't look into it
00:44.59Wobble*nod*
00:45.01Temgeterrorhandler should return a function that has the unique property of spitting the error message *without* breaking the current execution path
00:45.02RophyI'm not trying to test Ace2 in lua binary anyway... just need to make it work when there aren't errors so that I can test my mod in lua binary.
00:45.18ckknight|workRophy: parser errors?
00:45.25ckknight|workif so, just luac -p
00:45.42Rophywhat do you mean?
00:45.44Temspeaking of which... I need to recompile luac
00:45.49Rophyit's already working for me.
00:46.05Fisker-I got an idea
00:46.10Fisker-so good it might just be retarded
00:46.10Temmine crashes anytime I ask it to do something directly
00:46.22Rophyfor the newest Ace2, I can make AceEvent-2.0 to fire custom events, and that's all I need I think.
00:46.53ckknight|work... use wowbench or real WoW, I'd say
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00:47.38Temjust don't look in wowbench's code
00:47.42Temyou might gag
00:48.01RophyI tried wowbench a while ago but it's a bit complex to set up for me... many errors, tried to fix it and then I scared away.
00:48.16Rophyso I went back to my own wowapi stub.
00:48.19Fisker-Smart way to set up profiles:
00:48.28Fisker-Set up as default, when done copy to char?
00:48.53CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22671 10Prat/Prat/Prat.lua:
00:48.53CIA-17Prat: change to the event flow, added Prat_FrameMessage event for frames which
00:48.53CIA-17get events but have no output from them they will only get this event. The
00:48.54CIA-17normal client code is allowed to run before the prat events which may follow
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00:50.56ZealotOnAStickIs there a consistent guideline for precisely how externals paths should be set?  Other than pointing to just the svn.wowace.com/trunk I mean.
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00:51.23sylvanaarset them on your libs folder not your addon folder
00:51.28ckknight|workjust copy how Cartographer does it, ZealotOnAStick
00:51.34sylvanaarthats a good guideline
00:51.55CIA-1703zeed 070.3 * r22672 10MultiAssist/:
00:51.55CIA-17MultiAssist:
00:51.55CIA-17- Tagged 0.3
00:52.25CIA-1703zealotonastick * r22673 10Voyeur/Voyeur.toc:
00:52.25CIA-17Voyeur:
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00:52.31Temsylvanaar, I prefer to set my externals on my addon folder
00:52.43Temgiving them the path "libs\libName"
00:52.56Temthat way, the libs folder isn't created when you checkout without externals
00:53.14sylvanaaranyone else want to run the prat in my branch? i need testers who arent users
00:53.25ckknight|workTem: that doesn't fuck up /files/?
00:53.28sylvanaarTem: i hear ya
00:53.33ZealotOnAStickWell, some of the Ace Addons (including at least one of Kaelten's) have the external lib dirs as just "AceAddon" "AceConsole" "AceHook" and so forth . . .
00:53.33Temckknight|work, why would it?
00:53.34vid`whats the diff with your branch?
00:53.40vid`between normal prat
00:53.41ckknight|workI thought it did before
00:53.45ckknight|workmay have been fixed
00:53.48Temit should have no impact
00:53.54ZealotOnAStickWhereas some have the lib subfolders as the full version, like "AceAddon-2.0"
00:53.55pastamancerit shouldn't matter
00:53.57Temthe folder isn't there if you checkout without externals
00:54.05Temand it's there (and filled) with externals
00:54.07ckknight|workbut I don't like it, since then libs isn't seen as an SVN directory
00:54.16Temyes they are
00:54.16Benumbedfor i, data in pairs(self.db.profile.channels) do -- is it possible to do the increment in reverse?
00:54.20sylvanaarvid`: its a revision to the core handling of chat messages, and a module system improvement
00:54.25ZealotOnAStickI know it works both ways, I'm just wondering if there's a way it's "supposed" to be done.
00:54.58ckknight|worknot really
00:55.16TheKarnanyone have a nice baggins setup?
00:55.17kagarock: if you dont want me to make the var a member, what is your suggestion to solve the isse .. i.e. hook setnote and know when it has come from a comm message to either accept or rejetc it?
00:55.26sylvanaarvid`: instead of modules all hoooking AddMessage only prat hooks it, the modules get events from prat instead
00:55.37ckknight|workBenumbed: pairs isn't guaranteed to return in the same order, use ipairs if you want that
00:56.03ZealotOnAStickSo long as some toc somewhere loads the library into memory, it doesn't really matter what the folder name for it is, I suppose . . . though the lack of consistency is a bit maddening to me.
00:56.43BankZDo you guys have a nice buff addon?  that shows your buffs
00:56.55nymbiabuffalo
00:56.59ZealotOnAStickBankZ - try Buffalo or Elkano's Buffbars
00:57.11BarbanusI like Elk myself
00:57.12ZealotOnAStickMyself, I prefer Buffalo, but it's a preference thing.
00:57.27TheKarnBenumbed, if the keys are all integers, you can try              for #self.db.profile.channels, 1, -1 do
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00:57.28BarbanusI've actually never seen Buffalo
00:57.32BankZim getting rid of all the CT stuff
00:57.35BarbanusSo I cant say I like it more ...
00:57.44TheKarni think that works anyway
00:57.53BarbanusAnyone have a screenie of Buffalo?
00:57.58Benumbedk will try
00:58.23TheKarnfor i=#self.db.profile.channels, 1, -1 do
00:58.24TheKarnofc
00:58.25Doongabuffalo looks like the normal blizz buffs but you can move them around and change the way they grow as you gain buffs
00:58.36BarbanusAhh, okay, I wouldnt like it :P
00:58.58Doongai perfer elk myself :)
00:59.00ZealotOnAStickBuffalo shows up to 32 player buffs . . . gives more detailed timer info (well, it can, it's anoption), and allows moving them, scaling them.
00:59.02Doongaprefer*
00:59.09ZealotOnAStickas well as 16 debuffs and main and offhand weapon buffs.
00:59.41Fisker-hmmm
00:59.44ZealotOnAStickand you can choose how you want them arrayed.  I have 2 rows of 16 buffs . . . but you could do 4x8, or 16x2, or 1x32, or whatever.
00:59.48Hajitoruslooking tastier means elk wins ;P
00:59.53Fisker-Where are the locations of addon stuff placed?
01:00.01ZealotOnAStickElkano's is pretty, but consumes so much more screen space.
01:00.08Fisker-My bartender3 bars and other stuff is still at the same place
01:00.21ZealotOnAStickI've got enough damn bars all over my interface in combat asis.
01:00.22GagorianI've never seen the advantage of having huge bars for buffs
01:00.25Doongaehh, I shrank the bar width way down, so it's not too bad
01:00.26BarbanusZealotOnAStick, not if you make it less wide :P
01:02.12CIA-1703nargiddley * r22674 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
01:02.12CIA-17Baggins:
01:02.12CIA-17- Fix automatic layout when the first bag isnt full width
01:02.12CIA-17- Compress empty slots option
01:02.52Barbanusoh, why now?
01:02.56Benumbedlol what I miss now
01:03.34NargiddleyMikma, theres compress empty done :D
01:03.49ZealotOnAStickHrm.  Is there a way in TortoiseSVN to specify some default paths for stuff so it won't try to just load up the top-level browser (my computer, my docs, etc.) that I'm just not finding?
01:04.02BankZdo you guys have anything that let you move party frames and your own picture?
01:04.17ZealotOnAStickVisor2 or KC_Mobility.
01:04.23Gagorian'you guys' is funny :p
01:04.23BarbanusBankZ, take a look at ag_UnitFrames
01:04.31BarbanusYou wont ever go back
01:04.35ZealotOnAStickThough most unit frames should let you move them.  Are you just using the default blizz frames?
01:04.49BankZyeah
01:04.56BankZfor group and self
01:05.00BankZnot raid
01:05.03MikmaNargiddley: YAY :D
01:05.14BarbanusBankZ, agUF is the bomb :)
01:05.17Amadeobleh
01:05.18AmadeoI hate instances
01:05.20NargiddleyMikma, i'll work on other items when i get back. Heading out right now
01:05.28AmadeoI've run SM probably 25 times now, and I can't get Scarlet Leggings to drop
01:05.47Barbanussylvanaar, hes quite bitchy now, or you mean in general?
01:06.07BarbanusAmadeo, I never farm instances for loot on my alts, I'll outlevel the gear faster than it takes trying to get the item
01:06.27AmadeoBarbanus: I don't play my alts that much to outlevel anything
01:06.43Barbanushaha
01:06.49ckknight|workwhen did cladhaire turn evil?
01:07.00Sarozlike.. a month ago
01:07.01Sarozmaybe 2
01:07.26sylvanaaryeah, Prat is going to break alot of chat addons - so, i want to get as many people on IRC running it so i can get a sampling of what im in for
01:07.48MikmaNargiddley-out: have fun :)
01:08.16Amadeobrb
01:08.18TheKarnNargiddley-out, is there any chance of baggins supporting the bank at some point?
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01:08.51Sarozckknight|work: mm, IRC drama, gogo
01:08.56Nargiddley-outTheKarn, yes but i want to get it stable in general first
01:09.03BankZahhh, I got an addon thats showing the frames for the quest stuff
01:09.03TheKarnnp
01:09.09CIA-1703quetz * r22675 10FelwoodFarmer/FelwoodFarmer.lua:
01:09.09CIA-17FelwoodFarmer:
01:09.09CIA-17- Updated Co-ordinates
01:09.11BankZand I dont know how to get rid of it!
01:09.21Barbanusckknight|work WTF is he going on about
01:09.25BarbanusSeriously
01:09.33BarbanusIs he just trying to beat down Ace2? or what?
01:09.58kagaroquetzi: did you get the updted coords from the wowace website in teh cat discussion?
01:09.59SarozI can't freaking keep track of IRC conversations like that
01:10.00ckknight|workyes, Barbanus
01:10.01SarozmIRC ftl
01:10.11ckknight|workAce2 is the devil, because it allows stupid developers to code mods.
01:10.17sylvanaarso, if you are a chat addon author, you may want to consider Prat compatibility
01:10.17ckknight|workwhich is very, very true.
01:10.23ckknight|workit also allows good developers to code mods.
01:10.31Doongastupid developers have been coding mods for a lot longer than that
01:10.55ckknight|workDoonga: but if they use Ace2, it's easier on them, and they might learn good coding habits along the way.
01:11.12Doongaquite true :) just being my wiseass self
01:11.56sylvanaarace2 for most is the community more than the code, at least thats my opinion
01:12.03TheKarnit takes so long to set up baggins :)
01:12.05TheKarnah well
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01:12.31GngskI dunno about you, but I'm all about the benjimans, baby.
01:12.52ckknight|worksylvanaar: quite true
01:13.02ckknight|workwowace is very much community-oriented
01:13.14ckknight|workit's why we have documented APIs and everything
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01:13.19CIA-1703dorje * r22676 10DorjeHealingBars/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
01:13.19CIA-17DorjeHealingBars: initial commit
01:13.19CIA-17- See incoming casts on you, your target and your focus target!
01:13.20ckknight|workif we weren't, we'd be ... Discord
01:13.32Doonga*shudder*
01:14.06BankZman, I got an addon thats bugging me, LOL
01:14.28BarbanusOMG
01:14.31Doongaplus it gives me a reason to idle on irc again
01:14.34BarbanusI want to swear at Cide
01:14.34Fisker-btw
01:14.50Fisker-how can honorfu keep track of my battleground stats when i already deleted my sv's?
01:14.59GagorianBarbanus: Where is all this drama happening? :P
01:15.08Fisker-duh
01:15.13sylvanaarthough i think the need to differentiate Ace2 through the use of comparisons, or self-lauding is no longer as important
01:15.13Fisker-forgot char sv's
01:15.16ckknight|workGagorian: #wowi-lounge
01:15.28TheKarnargh why does the unmatched category match empty slots when empty slots is matched?
01:15.34BarbanusAnd start bitching out breaking compatibility in CTRA and oRA over spite
01:15.43BarbanusGood community ..
01:15.44Barbanusyea...
01:15.46Barbanusthats right
01:16.30SarozIt's futile to try and break compatibility, oRA will just adapt
01:16.54ckknight|workbut it's one step behind, Saroz
01:17.03ckknight|workunnecessarily.
01:17.23Sarozobviously
01:17.27Sarozbut it's still futile
01:17.34greylock2pff, ill just make ora mandatory in our guild, done
01:17.49Doongamost of mine has switched over also
01:18.03greylock2ye same, only 10 or so still using CTRA
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01:18.06ckknight|workonly when we crush him will we have truly won.
01:18.36ckknight|workbtw: if anyone would like me to explain how Ace works on the backend, I'd be happy to
01:18.43ckknight|workto explain what all the magic libraries actually do
01:18.49Mikma[Wobin]: why does FuXPFu error when i shift+click the icon while i am not watching an faction? :)
01:18.58ckknight|workI mean, it's already documented in the wiki, but maybe that's not enough, apparently
01:19.10[Wobin]You answered your own question =P
01:19.30Mikma[Wobin]: shouldn't you fix it? :)
01:19.35[Wobin]I guess
01:19.40[Wobin]But you didn't ask that =P
01:19.57Mikmawell i don't want to tell you what to do
01:19.58TheKarnckknight|work, can you be my coding bitch? if i need something explained i get to pester you and you have to reply within 10 seconds or be severely castrated?
01:20.10kagarorofl
01:20.30TheKarnsounds like a done deal to me :)
01:20.34ckknight|work...
01:20.35ckknight|workno
01:21.07ZealotOnAStickI wonder if Tain missed my last comment to him, or is just ignoring it.  I'm also curious why he's in here if we're all assholes.
01:21.32BankZI got something thats letting me move the quest frames
01:22.06BankZlike QuestTimerFrames, QuestWatchFrame, CaoptureMover and DurabilityFrame
01:22.11HajitorusTheKarn: Could you perhaps mitigate the consequences a little?  Instead of severe castration, you could have sweet, loving castration.
01:22.17BankZAny idea what mod that would be?
01:22.17HajitorusIt's all about the PR, y'know.
01:22.24TheKarnslow sensual castration?
01:22.35Hajitorus'swhat I'm talkin' about.
01:23.01HajitorusOkay I need to stop this conversation and go cringe in sympathetic pain.
01:23.06KarlThePaganman I can't reat the wowi shiz today
01:23.10KarlThePagan*read
01:23.56CIA-1703dorje * r22677 10DorjeHealingBars/:
01:23.56CIA-17DorjeHealingBars:
01:23.56CIA-17- First true release with externals and settings done :D
01:24.26BankZI got a mod thats messing with me, its adding frames for QuestTimerFrames, QuestWatchFrame, CaoptureMover and DurabilityFrame
01:24.34BankZand I dont know how to turn off
01:26.06BarbanusHahaha
01:26.09Doongasimpleminimap
01:26.31BarbanusAparantly, the fact that more mods are being converted over to Ace2 is a bullshit argument if libraries are a good thing ..
01:26.34BarbanusOkay .. i give up
01:27.09CIA-1703dorje * r22678 10MSBTCooldowns/ (. MSBTCooldowns.lua MSBTCooldowns.toc):
01:27.09CIA-17MSBTCooldowns: First commit
01:27.09CIA-17- See cooldowns of your spells in Mik's Scrolling Battle Text
01:27.20ckknight|workI want to just declare victory.
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01:27.37NeriakBankZ: do I ralt + right-click on the minimap and enable lock
01:27.40KarlThePaganckknight|work, the hyperbole in their statements has done it for me
01:27.48nymbia./sigh
01:27.53Neriaks/do I/do a/
01:28.05KarlThePaganan argument on the internet is never about convincing your adversary... it's always about convincing your audience
01:28.23KarlThePaganthis is the zen of arguing with retards
01:28.29BarbanusKarlThePagan, heh, yea
01:28.41andremarKarlThePagan: thats mostly true for most arguments everywhere, esp. public debates (politics etc)
01:28.42KarlThePaganheh
01:28.53nymbiaeveryone must learn how everything they use works.  before turning on your tv, you must build it.  before eating a fish, you must catch it, and study it to learn how all of it's organs work.
01:29.08KarlThePaganbefore using linked lists you must write one!
01:29.23KarlThePagangood advice if you want a CS degree... bad advice if you want to SHIP SOFTWARE
01:29.33ckknight|workquite true, KarlThePagan
01:29.47ckknight|workwe care about results
01:29.56KarlThePaganso anyways
01:30.02BankZNerf: thanks man
01:30.10KarlThePaganI want to take over the world with my LFG mod so I need a really good name
01:30.13Fisker-fucking dramaqueens :/
01:30.16Sarozaye
01:30.25Doongathis argument is lacking....
01:30.28KarlThePaganand I need to release it 3-5 days before TBC
01:30.32Doongai'm disappointed :P
01:30.33Sarozeverything is lacking
01:30.33KarlThePaganand update it during downtime
01:30.34greylock2KarlThePagan's LFG Mod
01:30.35Sarozpeople just want drama
01:31.03KarlThePagangreylock2, my ego isn't big enough to permit an author-named mod
01:31.11CIA-1703dorje * r22679 10MSBTCooldowns/ (. MSBTCooldowns.toc):
01:31.11CIA-17MSBTCooldowns
01:31.11CIA-17- Reset the .toc file and externals
01:31.14Barbanusooooo ckknight|work
01:31.14greylock2hrhr
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01:31.23GnancyPagan Ritual Finder?
01:31.33KarlThePaganI was thinking "Grouper"
01:31.41KarlThePaganor "GrouperLFG"
01:31.41Gnancyhmm fried grouper
01:31.48greylockStarship Groupers
01:31.51greylock*shiver*
01:31.52sylvanaar~pedantic
01:31.53purli guess pedantic is if you're going to be pedantic, be correct!!! (maxim #1)
01:31.53Gnancyit could have a fish icon
01:32.09Neriak~seen Cide
01:32.26purlcide is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 16m 14s). Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 1m 13s, last said: 'that's good, you're making progress'.
01:32.26Sarozhehe
01:32.26Sarozwhatever ckknight says, cide and clad jumps on him
01:32.27Sarozpoor guy
01:32.51ckknight|workright, now tell me, is that being a dick or being cordial?
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01:32.57BankZAre there any mods that auto-hide bars?  so they only show when you mouse over?
01:33.06BarbanusBlah, aparantly the fact that I am a developer, and dont care to code all of the innerworkings that Ace2 does for me ... I'm a bad person
01:33.14SarozI don't know what cordial means, so I'll reserve judgement on that
01:33.15BarbanusAnd aparantly thats not the way to learn to code a wow mod
01:33.16Hajitorusi heard writing mods just allows stupid people to play wow
01:33.25KarlThePaganyes you are Baraius and I'm irresponsible for writing libraries!
01:33.29ckknight|workSaroz: it means "nice"
01:33.32KarlThePaganBits is OF THE DEVIL
01:33.37ckknight|worksorta.
01:33.53ckknight|workwait, "warm and friendly"
01:33.59nymbiableh, i'm done with that argument.  yay for going in circles.. afk, making dinner.
01:34.00Sarozckknight, tbh, whatever you say in that channel will get you flamed
01:34.03Gnancyor an after dinner drink?
01:34.10Doongapretty much
01:34.17ckknight|workSaroz: yea, I think so
01:34.22BarbanusKarlThePagan, as I said in wowi-l, I code for a living (mainly in ruby), and I understand what the libraries do for me ... why would I want to write that?
01:34.23TheKarnthere's no "Battleground Tokens" set in PT
01:34.25TheKarn:(
01:34.41Mikmaag`: hmm i got a question for you
01:34.49KarlThePaganamen brother... Java pro myself
01:34.56SarozIriel is in now!
01:35.02KarlThePaganand I understand how libraries cut both ways
01:35.05nymbiaTheKarn: good idea, there will be in a few. ;)
01:35.06MikmaSaroz: in who?
01:35.13TheKarnnymbia, :)
01:35.44Sarozin the dicussion
01:37.15KarlThePaganthis is all a big flamefest because I linked some lua noob 2 pages
01:37.19Fisker-anyone know why my main menu(esc) is now in the upper right corner?
01:37.26TheKarn20558 20559 20560 btw nymbia
01:37.29KarlThePaganthe lua-users.org tutorials and the "my first ace2 addon"
01:37.36KarlThePaganflames... lol
01:37.56nymbiathanks TheKarn
01:38.53TheKarnFisker-, do you use Skinner?
01:39.06Kaelten-Laptopbacj
01:39.08Kaelten-Laptoper back
01:39.30BarbanusThis is like the ever debate .. is Ruby on Rails evil?
01:39.35ckknight|workKaelten-Laptop: I got flamezor'd.
01:39.39Fisker-yeah TheKarn
01:39.40BarbanusOMG FRAMEWORKZ
01:39.54Kaelten-Laptopckknight|work: ?
01:39.57Fisker-http://www.bouvi.com/sigs/uisig.jpg <-prety fucking lol
01:40.00Fisker-pretty*
01:40.24TheKarnFisker-, can you /skinner topframe adjust
01:40.25TheKarnthen /rl
01:40.29BarbanusKaelten-Laptop, #wowi-l
01:40.32ckknight|workKaelten-Laptop: I blame KarlThePagan on this one.
01:40.35TheKarnand see if the problem still exists?
01:40.43Fisker-nice
01:40.55Fisker-what addon introduces /rl ?
01:41.06TheKarnAceConsole
01:41.07TheKarnafaik
01:41.08HajitorusBarbanus: It is!  Use django instead!  (Large tongue in cheek.)
01:41.12Fisker-i liek
01:41.13Mikmaag`: wake up
01:41.20Fisker-he's up
01:41.31Barbanushahahaha ... I'm being a dick?!?
01:41.33Barbanuswow...
01:41.33Mikmano he's not
01:41.34Fisker-but i'm telling him to put in enemy cast bars
01:41.36ckknight|workFisker-: /rl comes from AceConsole
01:41.37Fisker-on another network
01:41.40Mikmahe's not answering me = he's sleeping
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01:41.53Fisker-that fixed it TheKarn
01:42.00TheKarnhmm
01:42.10TheKarnthats my fault then ;)
01:42.15TheKarnweee bugbashing time
01:42.34ag`Mikma: somehow I am not getting highlighted when you write me
01:42.41Fisker-see
01:42.42Fisker-i told you :P
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01:42.57Kaeltenhrm, wowi-l looks like I walked into the middle of something
01:43.05TheKarnFisker-, can you reenable adjust, /rl and see if the interface menu works?
01:43.07Fisker-yeah
01:43.15Fisker-better keep yourself out of it Kaelten :P
01:43.21Fisker-i almost puked before when i read all that
01:43.23Mikmaag`: aww :P well, how does the Blizzard texture get in agUF and where can i find it?
01:43.32andremareyh, the anti-library guy
01:43.38andremardoes he use functions or subroutines at all?
01:43.48ZealotOnAStickSo, anyone else having issues with default Blizzard frames being way up at the top of the screen with the latest Skinner?
01:43.52Hajitorushandcodes in luasm
01:43.57Barbanuswow, this really makes me think these guys dont actually do any other coding for a living
01:43.57Fisker-yes it reappears after enabling it again
01:44.07BarbanusThey would realize that libraries are a very good thing.
01:44.42Fisker-depends though
01:45.15Fisker-My teacher is pretty apt at bitching at us when we include unnessecary libraries(or whatever it's called in .net)
01:45.27ag`Mikma: how it got in?
01:45.37BarbanusFisker-, clarify ...
01:45.47ckknight|workFisker-: assemblies.
01:45.48Barbanusunnessecary? how ...
01:45.52Barbanuslike unused?
01:46.00Fisker-yeah
01:46.04CIA-1703nymbia 07nymbia * r22680 10PeriodicTable_DataMiner/PeriodicTable_DataMiner/WoWHeadMiner.lua: PeriodicTable_DataMiner: Changed input/output file(s), so I can use symbolic links to my working PT2 files. InstanceLoot ignores grays properly.
01:46.07Mikmaag`: yeah, i wanna get my hands on the texture and i can't find any info about it anywhere
01:46.15Mikmaag`: it's simply not listed anywhere in agUF files
01:46.25Fisker-like when making a new project Visual studio automatically defines some assemblies or libraries or whatever they were calle
01:46.26Fisker-called
01:46.31Fisker-but not all are nessecary
01:46.33Mikmaag`: still, when i start browsing the textures there's "Blizzard" in there
01:46.58Barbanusahh, so totally unused libraries ... well thats just dumb
01:47.06Barbanusneedless overhead
01:47.43ag`Mikma: hm
01:47.53Fisker-ooooh
01:48.00Fisker-almost trimmed all my fubar addons down to one bar
01:48.09Mikmaag`: yeah, hm was in my mind too then i decided to ask from you
01:48.22kenlyricFisker-: I have mine almost trimmed to two :)
01:48.24ZealotOnAStickTheKarn - your changes to skinner seem to have broken some stuff with default frames.
01:48.48ZealotOnAStickMy issue of the default menu, and other stuff, being way up at the top of the screen, goes away when I revert to 22621 (the last revision before your hooking changes)
01:48.54ag`Mikma:  I think ["Classic"]= "Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-StatusBar",
01:49.16Mikmaag`: no, that should be Border
01:49.19TheKarnZealotOnAStick, i know
01:49.26TheKarni'm looking into it
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01:50.05ag`Mikma: border?
01:50.17TheKarnZealotOnAStick, i think i know where i've gone wrong
01:50.23TheKarnZealotOnAStick, gimme a second
01:50.33Mikmaag`: that's Classic-theme for UF Border
01:50.42Mikmaag`: see the lines next to it, Nurfed etc :)
01:51.15ag`no
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01:51.25Mikmaoh wait, there's 2 classics
01:51.32ag`["Classic"]= "Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-StatusBar", is a bar texture
01:51.40ag`notice the StatusBar in the file name too
01:51.47ag`It's a huge clue
01:52.00Mikmabut why is it named Blizzard in game then?
01:52.27BarbanusI need to stop reading that channel
01:52.33TheKarnZealotOnAStick, solved it, commiting now
01:52.38DoongaBarbanus: agreed
01:52.39ckknight|workBarbanus: me too...
01:52.42BarbanusI'm gonna really become a "jerk"
01:52.51BarbanusAs I have already been called.
01:53.01MikmaBarbanus: well, we DO miss Tuplad here so you can be him, mmm'kay?
01:53.01ag`Mikma: because of surfaces renaming it
01:53.32Mikmaag`: no, it's Blizzard even when Surfaces is disabled :)
01:53.40ckknight|work~tuplad
01:53.42purlhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/51.jpg
01:53.44Doongaoops you make a typo in your typo emote
01:53.56Mikmackknight|work: bingo! you got the other link out :D
01:54.04Mikmai was able to get the other one, not that one
01:54.10CIA-1703nymbia * r22681 10PeriodicTable-2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-2.0: Added Battleground Tokens set, InstanceLoot ignores grays, misc other updates. todo: add exceptions to the dataminer for those 100% drop items.
01:54.45CIA-1703TheKarn * r22682 10Skinner/PanelMove.lua:
01:54.45CIA-17Skinner:
01:54.45CIA-17* Was moving menu windows instead of ignoring them
01:54.45CIA-17- Now checks whether or not the default interface says not to set any points.
01:55.04TheKarncan someone try that now?
01:55.39Barbanusrofl, thats a great comic
01:57.16TheKarnhmm ... still a small problem with the menu frame moving up when backing out of a menu
01:57.19Kaeltenhrm no one can advise me on the wisdeom of using fedora core 6 as a OS on a web server
01:57.25ag`Mikma: because you use another addon which uses surfacelib which names it something else
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01:57.52Mikmaag`: hmmmmmmm.
01:57.54sylvanaarok
01:58.04andremarKaelten: I would go with either ubuntu or debian, but that's because I love apt-get
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01:58.20Kaeltenandremar is apt-get better than yum?
01:58.21TheKarnKaelten, if you ONLY want to use it as a webserver do a gentoo build on it
01:58.29Doongawebserver? I'd use freebsd :P
01:58.31TheKarneither way portage > apt-get > yum
01:58.32sylvanaarmore Prat people running my prat branch pls! needs to be kicked around the yqrd
01:58.36Doongagentoo on a desktop
01:58.44HajitorusKaelten: If you're comfortable getting it on and know about the security issues, go with it.  You're the one supporting it, after all. :)
01:58.46andremarKaelten: I dont have much experience with yum I'm afraid
01:58.46TheKarngentoo on anything :P
01:59.02andremarI would never run gentoo though :p
01:59.03Doongai've run gentoo on server also...but I prefer freebsd as a server platform
01:59.05Mikmaag`: well i made a new "Round" texture :) it's Otravi rounded hehe
01:59.14TheKarni've not played with bsd
01:59.22Kaeltendoonga the ports system doesn't make much sense ot me
01:59.29andremarlately I've been using solaris / opensolaris
01:59.32andremarits quite nice
01:59.45Hajitoruswe use that at work, i keep ubuntu on the desktop tho ;)
01:59.53Barbanus~seen Cide
02:00.28purlcide is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 44m 16s). Has said a total of 78 messages. Is idling for 8m 22s, last said: 'and I can say that I knew what I was doing every step in the process'.
02:00.28andremarwell, with dapper they have dedicated ubuntu server installs
02:00.28Kaeltenwell I have a list of required apps, I know one of them I've only been able to really find as a rpm or source
02:00.28Mikmacan someone help me with the texture in game? i need it to be converted to .tga from .blp
02:00.29DoongaKaelten: in what way? also...you can just use pkg-add to install packages and avoid the whole ports tree
02:00.58andremarKaelten: basicly it comes down to what you are comfortable with, if it's you that will be suporting and maintaining it
02:01.00BarbanusWho is Tem?
02:01.09TemHi
02:01.13Mikma:D
02:01.16DoongaKaelten: ports break down to: going into the port's directory and doing a make && make install && make clean
02:01.27Kaeltenandremar I've managed tog et fedora core 6 up and running locally to some extent
02:01.34Doongabut like andremar said, it's all in what you are comfortable with
02:01.39BarbanusTem, never seen you talk here :P
02:01.40HajitorusKaelten: You can usually get around that in other distros, but stuff does tend to be better supported in Red Hat.
02:01.54ZealotOnAStickCide seems a might touchy and proprietary there.
02:02.00TemBarbanus, I dislike this channel nowadays
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02:02.09ckknight|workwoot, we now have Cide's official comment on a comm protocol for raiding addons: "shut up"
02:02.10Doongaand that statement ends the argument in that other channel too
02:02.11andremarKaelten: If I might make one suggestion though, its going with a binary distributed OS for a server. That means not compiling stuff your self
02:02.22TemBarbanus, I was one of the original folks in here, but there's too low S:N now
02:02.47Temit used to be a good channel, but it's degraded into, "I wrote this really awesome addon" please suck my cock
02:03.04Temwith the occasional "hoe do i mak dis werk?"
02:03.05andremarKaelten: at least in my experience, it makes it easier to stay up to date, and it makes it easier to keep things running
02:03.15Hajitorussylvanaar: Is it only other chat mods you're wanting to test against?
02:03.23BankZAre there any mods that auto-hide bars?  so they only show when you mouse over?
02:03.36[dRaCo]~seen tornhoof
02:03.41purltornhoof is currently on #wowace (6d 21h 18s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 12h 35s, last said: 'neither me'.
02:03.54Kaeltenandremar so using some thing like yum or apt-get?
02:03.56[dRaCo]idle for 12h -.-"
02:04.08andremarKaelten: thats my preference, yes
02:04.41andremarKaelten: also, on such a high profile server as wowace.com is getting, I would consider the security policy of the distro/OS chosen closely
02:04.58HajitorusAnd the frequency/reliability of the security updates.
02:04.59ZealotOnAStickTheKarn - I'll try it in a bit, going to intentionally walk away from the computer for a bit.  My tolerance for the S:N ratio Tem so conveniently mentioned has been surpassed.
02:05.00andremarKaelten: how long the support a given version of their OS, how quickly they usually respond etc
02:05.40andremarKaelten: with apt-get its baisicly down to doing "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" once in a while
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02:05.50andremaror subscribe to the security announce list
02:06.16CIA-1703nirek * r22683 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: All the HWL weapons should be in now
02:06.19andremarHajitorus: I cant seem to respond to the privmsg, but "haha" :p
02:06.57Kaeltenandremar: similar with yum
02:06.59HajitorusHeh.  I can spot a Debian zealot a mile off. ;P
02:07.16andremarahh, I wasnt logged in
02:07.38andremarI wouldnt call myself a zealot :p
02:07.57andremarthe server I irc from run FC3 for instance :p
02:08.02Mikmaanyone can convert one .blp to .tga for me?
02:08.36Gnancyi prolly can
02:08.43Gnancymikma
02:08.46kenlyricemerge --sync baby!
02:09.09Mikmawell, i'll pop it online since i can't convert it myself :P
02:09.26Gnancyonline where to?
02:09.34andremarkenlyric: and wait umpthen hours for the first build-error to come up :p
02:09.34Mikmato my site so you can get it
02:10.10Gnancykay .... um wowace forums ... idk your site new to the irc
02:10.33CIA-1703evilelvis * r22684 10eeShards/ (eeShards.toc libs/): eeShards: added missing lib
02:10.34Hajitorusfunroll-loops.org is down :(
02:10.42Doongaheh..i've been running gentoo on home servers and my desktop on and off well before 1.0 came out
02:11.26MikmaGnancy: http://mikma.reaktio.net/UI-StatusBar.blp
02:11.27Doongait was linux with freebsd's ports at that point basically
02:12.00sylvanaarHajitorus: no i need people running it so that i can catch bugs early on
02:12.52BarbanusAnd, I guess thats it for "Cide Hour"
02:13.03andremarKaelten: I guess the bottom line is that no matter how many times one brings the question of "what distro/os combo should I choose?", chances are you will walk away more confused than before you asked the question
02:13.09ckknight|workBarbanus: guess so
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02:13.28ckknight|workbut at least I have an official statement from Cide regarding standardization of the raid comm protocol: "shut up"
02:13.41ckknight|workbetter than the previous "go away" one
02:14.10Hajitorusah, so all raid comm can be moved from the "FOAD" epoch to "STFU"
02:14.10Kaeltenandremar pretty much
02:14.14Barbanushe said go away too
02:14.15Doongayea that's a step forward
02:14.22KaeltenFOAD?
02:14.23andremarKaelten: so, sorry for confusing you :)
02:14.29Doongafuck off and die :)
02:14.31HajitorusKaelten: "go away"
02:14.48Kaeltenandremar: actually my main question is now, is there a good reason NOT to user fedora core 6
02:15.07BarbanusI haven't used FC since like FC2
02:15.24BarbanusMy server is FBSD, and I have used Ubuntu on my workstations :P
02:15.39BarbanusIs FC any better now?
02:15.44andremarKaelten: I dont know, honestly. only experience I have with FC, is FC3, and I disliked yum in its form there. It just didnt have enough packages to keep me in binary land
02:16.17Kaeltenandremar I think there has only been maybe one thing I couldn't find there.
02:16.24andremark
02:16.31Kaeltenbut thats a extention for emacs
02:16.44HajitorusThat's hardly binary. ;)
02:16.47andremarthats a whole other can of worms :p
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02:16.49andremardont open it now
02:16.53Kaeltenlol
02:16.55Kaeltenhehe
02:16.55andremarI want to sleep tonight damnit
02:17.03Kaeltenlmao
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02:17.26HajitorusIf your desired apps are well supported, go with it.  It can't have horribly security or support. :)
02:17.39andremarHajitorus: hehe
02:17.51Hajitoruserr, horrible too
02:18.00andremarKaelten: if you have some experience getting what you need getting done on FC6, then go for it I'd say
02:18.34CIA-1703evilelvis * r22685 10eeShards/eeShards.toc: eeShards: updated toc
02:18.50CIA-1703evilelvis * r22686 10eePanels/eePanels.toc: eePanels: updated toc
02:19.04Barbanusooooooooooooo ckknight|work goes there!
02:19.08MikmaGnancy: any luck?
02:19.10BarbanusI was gonna ...
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02:19.31ckknight|workI went there, I took some pictures, and came back already
02:19.36Kaeltenwell at this point I think I'm mostly needed to learn how to setup the individual apps better, like apache2 and squid
02:20.20ckknight|workstandards are funny
02:20.41andremarwent where?
02:20.42ckknight|worklike, I could've adopted MapNotes' note-sharing standard, but I chose not to for efficiency's sake
02:20.54ckknight|workandremar: I commented on Cide making money from his addons
02:21.07ckknight|workgranted, I don't think that's bad necessarily, but it changes one's motivation
02:21.22andremarckknight|work: aha
02:21.33andremarit does indeed
02:21.46ag`how does he make money from them?
02:21.51Doongato an extent though, he does host his stuff on more than his own site
02:21.53ckknight|workI got like $45 from my donations, it's pretty cool
02:21.55Barbanusckknight|work, I honestly think that has a huge motivation.
02:22.00ckknight|workwho wants to guess what I'll do with it
02:22.03Barbanusag`, ads on his sites
02:22.07ag`okay
02:22.08BarbanusAnd yes "sites"
02:22.11Barbanusplural.
02:22.12Kaeltenckknight|work: go to a strip bar?
02:22.19BarbanusThe other sites wouldnt be popular without ctmod
02:22.19ckknight|workKaelten: nah, probably buy TBC
02:22.20ag`though it's pretty expensive to run a high bandwidth site
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02:22.33ckknight|workalso, I'm going to want to buy TextMate, cause it's pimptastic
02:22.40KaeltenOne of Cid's sites(ctmod.net) is hosted for free by a third party who doesn't get any money that may be resulting from those ads
02:22.43Barbanusag`, its obviously with the new expansion of his other sites, that its much more than that.
02:23.03Barbanusand what Kaelten said.
02:23.23ag`other sites?
02:23.28KaeltenCTProfiles.com
02:23.33ckknight|workctscreens.com
02:23.33Barbanusctprofiles, ctscreens
02:23.36KaeltenCTScreens.com
02:23.44Kaeltenthey have an image sharing site that I can't remember the name of too
02:23.47Hajitorusckknight|work: i envy you for having the hardware for it.  my ibook brokeded. :(
02:23.54ckknight|workKaelten: ctscreens?
02:24.01ckknight|workHajitorus: mine's new.
02:24.09Kaeltenckknight|work: no another one
02:24.17Kaeltenlike photobucket
02:24.17Hajitorusdouble stab.
02:24.20TainI'm not sure where ctanalwhores enters into the whole empire, but what can you do.
02:24.25andremardo you mean ctscreens.net?
02:24.30ckknight|workKaelten: I thought that was ctscreens.
02:24.33Hajitorusctubgirl?
02:24.40ckknight|worklol, Hajitorus
02:24.44Doongalol
02:24.52Kaeltenckknight|work: nope there is a nother one.
02:25.12NeriakCTteens.com?
02:25.13Taingoactse?
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02:25.22Hajitorusokay okay we get it now :p
02:25.25Barbanusmy best estimate is that he makes about $0.50 per 1000 views of that site ... (I'm also in the advertising industry), so having people download his mods does make him money.
02:25.42Gnancymikma are you there?
02:26.06ckknight|workBarbanus: make me money!
02:26.18Kaeltenbarbanus I want 50 per 1k views of wowace!
02:26.19Kaelten:P
02:26.20andremarSHOW ME THE MONEY!
02:26.31BarbanusHeh, I'm the evil one that pops popups and shows banner ads :P
02:26.37Hajitorusthat's it, absolutely no more guilds where the raid leader is a non-warrior
02:26.43Doongayea get the one with that fly noise
02:26.45Doongai love that one
02:27.07MikmaGnancy: yes
02:27.10Doongamuch in the way I love having my hand slammed in a car door
02:27.11Hajitoruspunch the monkey!
02:27.41Gnancykay i did a blp to tga for you
02:27.46Gnancynot sure if it worked tho
02:28.00Mikmawell just as long as i can open it
02:28.13Gnancywant i should email it to you?
02:28.17BarbanusKaelten, if you notice on the CT sites, every page has an ad. Even if you want to download a single mod, there is an ad. There is no auto downloader app, nor a file listing like on wowace...
02:28.36MikmaGnancy: if you can't put it online anywhere then you can mail it to me
02:29.10BarbanusTo compare, you'd have to be evil and puts ads on wowace.com/files, and something in WAU :P
02:29.24GagorianBarbanus: AdBlock ftw ;)
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02:29.46ckknight|workBarbanus: yea, what do you feel about adblock?
02:29.47[Wobin]I wouldn't mind ads in WAU if the money went towards the server
02:29.58ckknight|work[Wobin]: frankly, I agree
02:30.06ckknight|workas long as it benefits "the cause"
02:30.10[Wobin]hehe
02:30.13[Wobin]True =)
02:30.24BarbanusGagorian, surprisingly enough, adblock hasn't really hurt the industry ... popup blockers have though, but the industry has adapted
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02:30.35BarbanusEG: all of the floating div type ads out there.
02:30.44ckknight|workBarbanus: I hate those things.
02:31.07Barbanusckknight|work, so what would you say if I said I was one of the ones who came up with the idea?
02:31.08[Wobin]I have to admit, despite the fact I dislike ads like that, some of them are quite ingenious
02:31.10BarbanusI mean ... I said nothing!
02:31.30ckknight|workBarbanus: Opera seems to block em for me *shrug*
02:31.35[Wobin]Let's hear it for humanity's ability to work around the system =)
02:31.59Barbanusluckily for my job like 1% of the internet uses Opera :P
02:32.18Barbanusopera actually blocks lots ot stuff.
02:32.30Hajitoruslike legit sites? :p
02:32.30Barbanuss/ ot / of /
02:33.02BarbanusHajitorus, mainly some of the "creative" ads :P
02:33.25GnancyMikma the email on your wowace profile jes bounced back to me
02:33.25ckknight|workBarbanus: yea, I like Opera
02:33.34NeriakBarbanus: pay me or I'll sell your IP ^^
02:33.46BarbanusNeriak pfft
02:33.52ZealotOnAStickTheKarn: sorta fixes it.  It fixes the escape menu, but other UI elements are still showing up really high.  Character, inspect, auction house . . .
02:34.10BarbanusIf you dug a little, you could get my address :P
02:34.25TheKarnZealotOnAStick, you obviously have a TopFrame shown but with a height of 0?
02:34.43Hajitoruswhat address is more important than ip :(
02:34.43Neriaksold it already, thanks. the russians were pleased :)
02:34.49Barbanushaha
02:35.35Barbanusso how many of you have actually heard of bravenet.com?
02:35.50Neriakme .. back in the past it offered free webservices
02:36.00Barbanusit still does :P
02:36.19NeriakI still might have an account there .. getting some spam regulary.
02:36.28Neriakbut I don't care hehe
02:36.29BarbanusOpps, sorry about that :P
02:36.30KaeltenBarbanus: actually there is ads on /files
02:36.52BarbanusKaelten, there is?
02:36.53Kaeltenjust nothing in the WAU which has a lot of our pageview
02:36.56BarbanusOh, yea
02:37.01BarbanusIntellitext
02:37.07Kaeltenbarbanus ya only ads we have on the site atm
02:37.26BarbanusKaelten, those are actually nice .. not obtrusive.
02:37.26TainI have ads on your mom.
02:37.33ckknight|workcan I make a suggestion? paypal donate button on WAU.
02:37.35Kaeltenbarbanus thats what I thought
02:37.43Kaeltenckknight|work: I've talked with pprovost about it some
02:38.20Kaeltenbarbanus I'm getting something more like .10 per 1k pageviews
02:38.24Kaelten(not counting the ones from WAU)
02:38.38ZealotOnAStickTheKarn: I have a viewport section at the top, but not a topframe, that I'm aware of . . .  Just a 22 pixel top viewport.
02:39.04ZealotOnAStick22621 works right, your revs after don't. *shrug*
02:39.14KaeltenI never want ot have so many ads that that is the focus of the site, but at the same time I do want to make the site self supporting
02:39.20Kaeltenand at this point its not really.
02:39.38MikmaGnancy: works perfectly, thank you very much :)
02:39.59[Wobin]hey Gnancy =)
02:40.02Gnancyah good
02:40.09Gnancyhello wobin
02:40.48ZealotOnAStickI can give you my skinner .sv file if it'll help, TheKarn.
02:40.53kagarock: i have an AceComm question for you
02:42.01ckknight|workoh noes
02:42.13kagarock: when sending a message with multiple keys how does it show up in OnCommReceive?  prefix,sender,distribution, ... )?
02:42.34ckknight|workmultiple keys?
02:42.40ckknight|workwhat's a key?
02:43.10TheKarnZealotOnAStick, can you pastey the contents of your Skinner.lua sv file?
02:43.20kagaroI hooked OnCommReceive with AceHook for Cart but im not getting the data as I assume I would
02:43.35kagaroHookedComm(prefix, sender, distribution, zone, x, y, creator, data)
02:44.31andremarI'm hooked on a commchan, whoho
02:44.43andremar(sang to the tune of hooked on a feeling)
02:44.45kagarobut x is coming across as the zone
02:45.23TheKarnkagaro,, your getting self as prefix
02:45.42TheKarnHookedComm(self, prefix, sender, di...)
02:46.05kagarothanks
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02:47.21Kaeltendoes a 1MB download rate corespond to a 10MBit connection?
02:47.28Doongano
02:47.35TheKarn8mbit
02:47.37Zeedhello, anyone from the wowace team there ?
02:47.39Barbanus8 bits per byte
02:47.39KaeltenI didn't think so.
02:47.41TheKarnnot including overheads
02:47.45andremar+ some overhead
02:47.48BarbanusYea
02:47.51Doongayea 8 mbit will give you ~1m/s
02:48.01andremarin general its hard to get more than 1MB trough a 10Mbit connection
02:48.12CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22687 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/uninstall.bat: !!!StandaloneLibraries: removed extra bat file
02:48.46Kaeltenso a 8Mbit connection would give us 2.6TB of traffic a month or abouts anyway
02:48.47Hajitoruswau doesn't extract standalone's empty dirs :(
02:48.55sylvanaari know
02:49.03sylvanaarHajitorus: fixed in next release
02:49.05Hajitorusfigured :(
02:49.29ZeedI would like to rename an addon in the svn, is there anything special to do other than the svn move ?
02:49.35Hajitorusnow that i've been today's faq nub, is there a place i could've read that before now? :p
02:49.50BarbanusKaelten, why 8Mbit, that seems odd for any normal datacenter
02:50.13TheKarnaverage ADSL2+ connection is 8MBit
02:50.15Kaeltenbarbanus we'll we're going to 10MBit
02:50.26Kaeltenunmetered
02:50.50ZeedOk I will email them, cya
02:50.53ZealotOnAStickTheKarn: http://ace.pastey.net/4145
02:50.56sylvanaarckknight|work: can you make my acedebug change for me?
02:51.05Doongayea my cable advertises an 8mbit download, but they actually give you 8.5 I believe to compensate for protocol overhead
02:51.11ckknight|worksylvanaar: why?
02:51.13ZealotOnAStickLooks like I have a topframe defined there. . . but I'm not sure if I actually show it or not.  I'd have to log in (and go through queue again) to check.
02:51.17ckknight|workI'm at work right now anyway
02:51.26sylvanaarckknight|work: oh, i cant commit to ace2
02:51.30ckknight|workoh
02:51.46ckknight|worksylvanaar: find someone else, I'll be home in an hour
02:52.02Kaeltenso about 3.34TB for a 10MBit connection
02:52.02BarbanusKaelten, what do you use now a month?
02:52.02ckknight|worksuch as Kaelten
02:52.07ckknight|workhe can commit to Ace2
02:52.22Kaeltenckknight|work: who me?
02:52.25sylvanaarKaelten: will you commit my acedebug fix
02:52.41Kaeltensylvanaar: send me a patch file to kaelten@gmail.
02:52.43Kaeltencom
02:52.53Kaeltenbarbanus running a parse on the stats now
02:53.00Kaeltencurrent data center is gay and doesn't give us usage stats
02:53.10BarbanusReally?
02:53.12Barbanuswtf...
02:53.14Barbanuswho do you use?
02:53.19KaeltenfortressITX
02:53.35KaeltenI'm sure they have access to them end of month but I never get em
02:53.57andremarKaelten: ifconfig check TX and RX bytes :p
02:54.08andremarif you have console access that is
02:54.28NeriakKaelten: btw did my changes in Fence broke something  in KCI or is everything fine?
02:54.30BarbanusDoesnt really give you a breakdown per month tho
02:54.36ckknight|workKaelten: I don't see what the data center's sexuality has to do with anything...
02:54.38sylvanaarKaelten: ok sent
02:54.42KaeltenNeriak: no problems :)
02:54.43ckknight|workit just prefers the company of other data centers.
02:55.01NeriakKaelten: cool, thanks :)
02:55.30sylvanaarheres the change http://ace.pastey.net/4144
02:55.37BarbanusI wish I could write wow mods in ruby :P
02:58.22Kaeltenipconfig didn't seemt o give me anything meaningful
02:58.33Barbanusit wont
02:58.39Barbanusit will give you a total in-out
02:59.18Kaeltenit does?
02:59.32andremar<PROTECTED>
02:59.33Kaeltenon freebsd?
02:59.40andremarahh, dont know
03:00.32KaeltenI'm running the parser on the logs for the last week
03:00.33CIA-1703mikma * r22688 10ag_UnitFrames/Images/Bars/Round.tga: ag_UnitFrames: The new supersexy Round -texture
03:00.36Kaeltenwe've had a slump around xmas
03:00.50KaeltenI do know that
03:01.32Doongaifconfig on freebsd should give you traffic totals
03:01.32Mikmaag`: there ya go :)
03:01.44Mikmasupersexy i say! supersexy!
03:02.02TainI have found the flaw with the Nintendo Wii.
03:02.16Mikmayou did hit your wife in the eye with the control?
03:02.22TainWhen you've had a bunch to drink you don't alwasy feel like flinging our arms around.
03:02.41Kaeltendoonga I don't see anything rsembling it though
03:02.47HajitorusHave you finished the Weather yet?  I've unlocked two tunes but it's still snowing in London.
03:02.49Mikmaso you did hit your wife in the eye
03:02.55nymbiaTain: then dont ;)
03:03.07TainI hit your wife in the eye.  But not with the controller!
03:03.09Doongakaelten 1 minute let me try it on my firewall box
03:03.44BarbanusIt doesnt
03:03.45nymbiaTain: pretty much the only thing you gotta fling your arms around for is bowling.  which i wouldnt suggest drunk ;)
03:03.47BarbanusI just tried
03:04.03Kaeltencurrent server is running freebsd
03:04.07CIA-1703sylvanaar * r22689 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (7 files): !!!StandaloneLibraries: updated batch tools
03:04.23HajitorusBarbanus: ~mods.collect {|m| nubs.include?(m.author)} ?
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03:04.30Doongawell I find what does then :)
03:04.58TheKarnZOAS|Away, should work now, just commiting
03:05.13BarbanusHajitorus, lol
03:05.34GngskMikma, I spit upon your rounded texture
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03:06.20andremarhaha
03:06.45Kaeltenanyone have experiance setting up apache and lightty on the same box?
03:07.05andremarKaelten: yeah, I have that on this box
03:07.17HajitorusUnitFrames are *supposed* to have sharp corners.  If UIs are easy to use, we're just making mods so idiots can play WoW.  I heard someone in wowi-lounge say that anyway.
03:07.32Kaeltenandremar I'm wondering how I would set it up like what we have now on the current box
03:07.48andremarKaelten: dont know how you have it now :)
03:07.49Kaeltenit has lightty on the front end but pushes to apache for svn requests.
03:07.52CIA-1703zeed * r22690 10MultiAssist/ (9 files):
03:07.52CIA-17MultiAssist:
03:07.52CIA-17- renaming the addon to BiGOpt
03:07.53CIA-1703TheKarn * r22691 10Skinner/PanelMove.lua:
03:07.53CIA-17Skinner:
03:07.53CIA-17- Will not relocate "native" center panels.
03:07.55CIA-17- Will not relocate to a position higher then the default.
03:07.59andremarhere I have 1 ip for lighty and one for apache1 and once for apache2
03:08.14BarbanusKaelten, 2 IPs, bind one to apache, one to light
03:08.40BarbanusI have the same andremar
03:08.40andremareither that or have then on different ports, apache on 80 with proxy to lighty on 8080 for instance
03:08.40TheKarncan someone give that a go and see if theres any more strange happenings?
03:08.42CIA-1703zeed * r22692 10/trunk/ (BiGOpt/ MultiAssist/): MultiAssist: renaming directories to BiGOpt
03:09.21CIA-1703zeed * r22693 10/tags/ (BiGOpt/ MultiAssist/): MultiAssist: renaming directories to BiGOpt
03:09.37Kaeltenhrm I'm wondering how best to do it
03:10.31TheKarnhmm driving lesson in 5 hours
03:10.34TheKarnmight get some sleep
03:10.36TheKarnnn guys
03:10.40CIA-1703zeed 070.3 * r22694 10BiGOpt/: MultiAssist: removed the 0.3 tag, will be replaced with the renamed 0.3 release
03:10.57TheKarn/q me if theres any more issues with PanelMover.lua in skinner
03:11.03ThorgardOdd.. :/ agUF's showing someone in my group as 'offline', yet their energy is being updated (sort of, the energy bar is mana-colored) and it's showing their level as "??".
03:11.27ThraeI propose a new standard: All addons using Ace must now have "Ace" in not only their addon's names, but their VARIABLE names too. This standardization will allow people to more easily maintain your code. Example: AceFooMainFrame. for AceI in 1,10000 do AceExplode = {} end
03:12.04nymbiarofl
03:12.12Kaelten~lart Thrae
03:13.10HajitorusVery impersonal lart. :(
03:13.29DoongaKaelten: netstat -ss will give you a ton of totals by protocol
03:13.32Barbanus~lart Thrae
03:13.52ThraeIn addition, using the Ace library should require a disclaimer at the top of the addon's code -- "-- This addon was made using the all-powerful ACE2 Embedded Library system. Addons who do not use this system suck, and their authors mocked."
03:14.07sylvanaarnymbia: did you run into any prat issues running the development version?
03:14.10DoongaKaelten: overflows to 0 at 32gig I believe
03:14.15TheKarn~smite Thrae
03:14.17purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves Thrae from crown to sole.
03:14.37nymbiasylvanaar: nope
03:14.49Kaeltensudamn apparently has been executed
03:14.56BarbanusThrae, I think that it should have a disclaimer that says "Under no circumstances may you use Ace2 unless you know all of the inner workings of developing a mod without Ace2 first"
03:15.18sylvanaarnymbia: the branch copy is updated with some fixes if you want to update
03:15.22TheKarni've developed a mod without ace2 before ... does that mean i can use ace2 ?
03:15.23nymbiasylvanaar: ok
03:15.39BarbanusTheKarn, do you know all of the innerworkings?
03:15.48TheKarndefine innerworkings
03:15.49Doongai wrote code for 10 years before wow came out, can I use ace2 to start learning?
03:16.01KaeltenBarbanus I disagree, we'd have no devs
03:16.01Kaelten:P
03:16.03BarbanusDoonga, no.
03:16.36Doongaheh
03:16.43KaeltenDoonga: I can't find the bandwith stats in all that
03:16.45TheKarntbh i doubt even the "mighty" thrae knows the "innerworkings" of lua
03:17.07Doongahrmm
03:17.10Doonga1 min again
03:17.16sylvanaaryou must know that if you dont use Ace2 you must type MyMod = {} before you can do function MyMod:Foo() self:Bar() end
03:17.45Mahirohi all
03:17.53Doongayou want outbound traffic right?
03:18.29Kaeltenyes
03:18.39TheKarnsylvanaar, how about also knowing that self:Bar() really only does MyMod.bar(MyMod)...
03:19.08Kaeltenso far ~ 1.5TB this month according to Urchin
03:19.12sylvanaarah, that is too low level
03:19.45sylvanaarit needs a library
03:19.56Kaeltendamn 36m pageviews
03:20.10Kaeltenof course I think only about 5m of those are non /files downloads
03:20.46ThraeDon't you also have a Wiki bot which updates TOC pages?
03:21.02mjcsaddam down
03:21.09DoongaKaelten: netstat -ss | grep -A 5 tcp
03:21.18CIA-1703kagaro * r22695 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: changed filtering mechanism to use AceHook
03:21.28DoongaXXX data packets (XXXX bytes) should be what you want
03:21.36Mahiroanyone knows why i cant use a makro with a modifier key on a mouse button?:(
03:21.53Kaeltendoonga choked
03:22.06Kaeltenoh damn wrong console
03:22.11Doongalol
03:22.39Kaelten547663666 data packets (4092693498 bytes)
03:22.39Kaelten<PROTECTED>
03:22.45mjcouch
03:22.47mjcretrans = suck
03:23.02Doonga4 gigs
03:23.05Kaeltennot sure the time frame on that though
03:23.13Hajitorusuptime
03:23.14Hajitorusor w
03:23.17Doongasince last reboot or when it rolled over
03:23.17Hajitorusright?
03:23.25Doongait overflows at 32gigs
03:23.36Kaeltenup time is 12 days
03:23.48Doongawow heh
03:24.04Kaeltenurchan says we're avg ~45GB a day
03:24.20Kaeltenso that means that netstats gets rolled over more than once a day
03:24.49Hajitorusheh
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03:25.49CIA-1703zeed * r22696 10BiGOpt/ (. BiGOpt-enUS.lua BiGOpt-frFR.lua main.lua readme.txt):
03:25.49CIA-17BiGOpt:
03:25.49CIA-17- Finished renaming to BiGOpt (/ma and /mainassist are now /bo and /bigopt)
03:26.10Doongaheh that's more traffic than my servers have seen
03:26.20Doongathen again I never had a need for something hosted
03:28.46sylvanaarok, what would be the best solution to function safestr(c) return c or "" end
03:28.56Neriak45GB ad day .. whew. I'd say Cartographer is evil! hrhr
03:29.06Neriaks/ad/a/
03:29.38CIA-1703zeed 070.3 * r22697 10BiGOpt/:
03:29.38CIA-17BiGOpt:
03:29.38CIA-17- Tagged 0.3
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03:29.55Kaeltenactually bigwigs is the most requested addon
03:30.00sylvanaaris there a more elegant way to do this for table values? metatables?
03:30.29Kaeltenwoot OneBag is #7, lol
03:30.39Kaeltenactually those numbers might be slanted based on number of updates as well
03:30.44NeriakKaelten: Cartographer ~13mb > BigWigs ~ 1,2 MB
03:30.56Hajitorusanalysis by client?  is it mostly wau?
03:32.00Kaeltenwe're seeing an estimated 14.8k wau(type) progs running a day
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03:32.44Hajitorusremind me to never update more than once a day ... :(
03:33.02Kaeltenlol
03:33.19Doongaoh so updating every 20 minutes isn't good? :) j/k
03:33.29Kaeltenwau wasn't iding itself until the latest version so I don't know for sure what its usage is.
03:33.52ag`what's the top 10? :D
03:34.08NeriakI've hacked wau to sync stuff each 30 seonds :P
03:34.17Neriaks/seonds/seconds/
03:34.18Kaelten~lart neriak
03:34.34Neriakoh sleep .. hrm sounds good :)
03:34.45Neriakg'night all , heh
03:35.04Kaelten1) (unknown) 22.4million hits
03:36.02ag`unknown? :P
03:36.04mjcbetter log parser would = win
03:36.14Kaeltenmjc: I'm thikning thats largely WAU
03:36.22Kaeltenup until the last version it didn't have a browser string
03:36.26Doongahow about wuu?
03:36.43Kaeltenwhats WUU's full name?
03:36.55Kaelten#2 is FireFox
03:37.01DoongaWoW UI Updater, might show as wurm also
03:37.02Kaelten#3 is IE
03:37.13Kaelten#4 is Opera
03:37.17Kaelten#5 is NetScape
03:37.25Kaelten6) Safari
03:37.40ag`less safari users than nutscrape? :P
03:37.42Doongano konq I see
03:37.59Kaelten7) Mozilla 8) Wget 9) Mozilla Comptabible 10) python urllib
03:38.04mjcKaelten: sounds reasonable
03:38.13Doongapython urllib is probably wuu
03:38.19Doongahe coded it in python
03:38.35ag`what about addon top 10 Kaelten ?
03:38.40ag`1) bigwigs
03:39.00Kaeltennow these are top 10 downloaded, so that might be slanted by # of updates
03:39.30Hajitorusthen multiply by addon size for server load :P
03:39.49Kaelten2) FuBar_DurabilityFu 3) oRA2 4) FuBar_ClockFu 5) FuBar
03:40.24sylvanaarfor instance would it be silly to define a index metamethod which returns "" instead of nil if you prefix the key with a "_"
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03:40.45Kaelten6) FuBar_agufFu 7) OneBag 8) MobHealth 9) FuBarPlugin 10) BigWigs_KLHTMTarget
03:41.18ag`I don't get fubar addons being more popular than fubar :D
03:41.23Kaeltenlol
03:41.30Doongayea I was thinking that myself
03:41.32Kaeltenslanted by updates is my guess
03:41.34Kaeltennow top 10 "Most checked up on Addons"
03:41.47sylvanaarthey change more frequently you said yourself
03:41.56Kaeltenthese are the top 10 most checked addons in WAU(or any orhter check of a latest.txt file)
03:42.02Doongayea i know, it still looks funny though
03:42.23Hajitorussylvanaar: What are you attempting to optomise for?  Is safestr being a bottleneck?
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03:42.32Kaelten1) FuBar 2) sct 3) BigWigs 4) sct_options 5) Ace2
03:42.34sylvanaarno its just clumsy
03:43.11Kaelten6) FuBar_PerformanceFu 7) oRA2 8) FuBar_MoneyFu 9) FuBar_DurabilityFu 10) ag_UnitFrames
03:43.21Kaeltenthose probably more close resemble usage statistics
03:43.29Doongaseems reasonable
03:43.40Kaeltenlol OneRing is in the top 100
03:43.46ag`Woot! I am up there with the big guys
03:44.11Kaeltenhehe
03:44.14ag`But why is Ace2?
03:44.25sylvanaarstandalone
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03:44.33Doongai think a lot of people do standalone now
03:44.42Kaeltenmost requested files is kinda funny
03:44.54Zodiis there any idea in runing standalone?
03:45.01sylvanaarno
03:45.08Zodithought so
03:45.12CIA-1703Tristan * r22698 10RaidSpy/ (Core.lua Localization.lua RaidSpy.toc icon.tga):
03:45.12CIA-17RaidSpy:
03:45.13CIA-17- Two options had the same name, duh. Also made a custom icon featuring none other then Spy vs Spy :D
03:45.16ag`Kaelten: what's the difference between most requested and most downloaded?
03:45.38sylvanaarhow frequently the thing changes
03:46.01Kaeltenag`: well I posted most downloaded and most checked on
03:46.21Kaeltenmost downloaded is squewed in porportions wiht how many updates an addon has
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03:47.20CIA-1703Tristan * r22699 10RaidSpy/RaidSpy.toc:
03:47.20CIA-17RaidSpy:
03:47.20CIA-17- I actually managed to spell Rev wrong so revision didn't get updated correctly
03:47.22sylvanaaryou posted it somewhere?
03:47.23Hajitorus... note to self: killall -9 sshd, not zsh
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03:47.40Kaeltensylvanaar: posted ?
03:47.42DoongaHajitorus: oops
03:48.03sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
03:48.13Doonganot as bad as rm -rf /etc by mistake
03:48.22Hajitorusor rm -rf .*
03:48.27Kaeltensylvanaar: ya here in chat :)
03:48.33Hajitorusin a shell that counts .. as matching .*
03:48.38Doongayea
03:48.38sylvanaargotcha
03:49.01Doongai was usually good about not killing everything, but I did /etc one time instead of ~/etc or something like that
03:49.09Kaeltenok here is a fun one found it ranked by bytes
03:49.41Kaeltenok, big wigs beats out cartographer
03:49.45PProvostHello all
03:49.46Doongacartographer should make this one
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03:50.24HajitorusI did the .. thing early in my career, soon after found that killall5 on BSD-based did nothing like killall on GNU.
03:50.56Doongahehehehe
03:51.27Hajitorusand for shame i work at a solaris shop and still thought that init 5 meant "boot the gui" until recently :(
03:51.47Hajitorusthat's what you get for hiring linux nerds :(
03:52.09Kaelten1) BigWigs 2) Cartographer 3) oRA2 4) ag_UF 5) FuBar_DurabilityFu
03:52.11Doongathat's one system I've never had the opportunity to play with very much
03:52.28Doongaheh durability is quite popular
03:52.29Hajitoruswhat is it with durabilityfu :P
03:52.55Kaelten6) FuBar 7) BigWigs 8) FuBar_ClockFu 9) IceHud 10) sct
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03:53.44Hajitorusbigwigs is good, number 1 and number 7
03:53.51PProvostIt would be cool if that ranking could be autogenerated on the site
03:53.55Kaeltendifferent files
03:54.03Hajitorusexternals/no?
03:54.21PProvostKaelten, you parse out the WAU data yet?
03:54.33KaeltenPProvost: no one is using the new version yet hardly
03:55.04sylvanaarpeople are slow to update
03:55.15sylvanaarunless its automatic
03:55.26Doongai like the wuu one since it can go to multiple sites...since I still use a few non aced mods
03:55.36Doongalike swstats
03:55.40KaeltenWowAceUpdater 2,01778.27%
03:55.40KaeltenWowAce Updater52820.49%
03:55.40KaeltenWoWAce.Downloader.exe321.24%
03:55.52Kaeltenthats all I got of WAU
03:56.15PProvostWAU 1.6 is consistently downloaded 1300 times a day from sourceforge
03:56.32Kaeltenwhats the string I'm looking for ?
03:56.47PProvosthehe... don't remember... let me pull it up
03:57.38PProvostIt will be something like...
03:57.39Hajitorusdidn't know there was a new version :P
03:57.55PProvostHajitorus, I announce it all the time... in all the places. :)
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03:59.01HajitorusI've only just started (badly) lurking here, if IRC is what you mean?
03:59.25ThorgardPProvost, feature request.. have WAU delete all the old changelogs in the addon directories after downloading/extracting. ;P
03:59.32PProvostKaelten: "WowAceUpdater (v1.6;Windows somehting or other;.NET Frx v2.0.50246)"  --- where all the version numbers tell you something about the user's system.
03:59.42PProvostThorgard, file it on the tracker on sf.net. :)
03:59.48PProvostBTW, I think that is there.
03:59.59PProvostBest way to get that is to tell it to delete before extracting.
04:00.21PProvost"BTW, I think that is there." <--- means, I think that has already been requested in the tracker
04:00.54HajitorusThorgard: Delete before extract is the best way.
04:01.47ThorgardPProvost, what about a dialog box after you've updated mods showing a consolidated changelog for all the addons updated with only the 'new' stuff (changed from the version you had installed). *dreams*
04:02.07KaeltenPProvost: its not showing up...
04:02.19PProvostThorgard, that is up there too
04:02.25PProvostI mean it has been requested
04:02.30ThorgardCool.
04:02.55PProvostI'm not sure it would give what people want though
04:03.02PProvostI believe the changelog files are cumulative.
04:03.07PProvostKaelten?
04:03.16Kaeltenall I got where those few I showed
04:03.30Kaeltenmy #1 browser is "unknown"
04:06.15Barbanusnew pet attack macro is?
04:07.12sylvanaarKaelten: maybe its filtered out by proxies
04:07.29PProvostI think the first one is the 1.6 stuff.
04:07.29Kaelteneither that or urchin5 is dieing on it somehow
04:07.35PProvostAre you parsing the log with a tool?
04:07.45PProvostIt might be sucking out just the browser type.
04:08.03PProvostTry just grepping "WowAce" or "Updater" and seeing what comes out. :)
04:09.03sylvanaarhttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php dont just dream, type
04:09.53PProvostsylvanaar, Kaelten and I are talking about the usage against wowace.com
04:10.00Kaeltenhrm 300 MB txt files
04:10.09PProvostWAU sends a custom user-agent string that he should eb able to parse for
04:10.15sylvanaarPProvost: i should have indicated that message was for Thorgard
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04:10.41sylvanaarPProvost: im following you conversation with Kaelton
04:13.25KaeltenPProvost: whats the string again?
04:13.49PProvostUmmm... scroll up?
04:14.09PProvostKaelten: "WowAceUpdater (v1.6;Windows somehting or other;.NET Frx v2.0.50246)"  --- where all the version numbers tell you something about the user's system.
04:15.05PProvostSo the ones that say WowAceUpdater are probably the new version. I suspect that "WowAce Updater" is either the Java one or v1.5
04:15.43sylvanaarPProvost: perhaps its the format: WoWAceUpdater/1.6 is prolly more like other user-agent strings
04:16.08PProvostI based it on the ones used by IE and FF
04:16.29PProvostUltimately, though, you should be able to put whatever you want in there. :)
04:17.28PProvostThorgard, here's the other problem with "deleting" the changelog file... how do I know if it is part of the addon or part of the zip package? In other words, I would hate to accidentally delete a file that was part of the addon distro
04:18.02PProvostI have WAU set not to delete by default because I don't want people yelling at me for deleting files on their system.
04:19.12PProvostzomg, I friggin hate the "Hardware has changed" dialog box in WoW. About 10% of the time I click Yes instead of No. DAMN!
04:19.35Kaelten"WowAceUpdater (v1.6.4.0;
04:19.36CrisCr0sssonly 10%
04:19.49PProvostThat looks like it Kaelten
04:19.59CrisCr0sssnew version of WAU?
04:20.11PProvostThat is the last version from a week or so ago...
04:20.17PProvost1.7 isn't out yet
04:21.10PProvostCrisCr0sss, I hate it because to get it back where I want it, I have to restart the game... and my server often has a wait queue.
04:24.10sylvanaarPProvost: its not sending the header
04:25.49PProvostYou put a test proxy in the way?
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04:27.51Kaeltenwindows doesn't seem to like a 300MB file
04:28.09Hajitorusin notepad? ;P
04:28.28Kaelten-Laptoplol notepad wouldn't even open it
04:28.48sylvanaarProphy: its a bug
04:29.07sylvanaars/Prophy/PProvost
04:32.19Kaelten-Laptop1.7million lines
04:33.24PProvostdammit sylvanaar, you are right.
04:33.26PProvostcrap
04:33.30PProvostSorry Kaelten
04:33.34Kaelten-Laptoplol
04:33.38PProvostI think WAU is all the "unknown ones"
04:33.38Kaelten-Laptopits ok
04:33.43PProvost:D
04:33.49Kaelten-Laptopoh then there is only something like 7m of those this month
04:35.30Kaelten-Laptopheheh, well actually 22.45 million unknown hits making up more than 634GB of data
04:35.33Kaelten-Laptop:P
04:35.38Kaelten-Laptopbe back in a bit, gotta pack
04:35.40PProvosthehe
04:39.30CIA-17ow
04:39.49nymbia:'(
04:39.57mjchttp://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2760570
04:41.40sylvanaaryou should have a WAU hit in your log no
04:41.42sylvanaarnow
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04:54.42[Wobin]hm
04:54.55[Wobin]Why wouldn't FuXPFu be offering profile support?
04:56.15CIA-1703nymbia * r22701 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: Big ole sort.
04:56.32nymbiawow, only took you 20 minutes
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04:56.57ckknighthey all
04:57.17Barbanushey ckknight
05:00.20ckknighthow's everyone doing?
05:00.27[Wobin]hey ckknight, in regards to FuBar plugins, what determines if the profile menu is offered?
05:00.39ckknight[Wobin]: .independentProfile
05:00.43[Wobin]hm
05:00.58[Wobin]mine's set to true =\
05:01.01[Wobin]but no menu option
05:01.35ckknightweird
05:01.41ckknightwhen do you set it?
05:01.55ckknightbrb
05:01.58[Wobin]before everything
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05:02.30ckknightIRC client upgrade
05:02.47ckknightbah, my theme!
05:03.36ckknight[Wobin]: pastey
05:03.41[Wobin]kk
05:07.26[Wobin]http://www.pastey.net/4154
05:07.35[Wobin]it probably could be all put into the OnItit
05:07.37[Wobin]init
05:07.55ZOAS|AwayPProvost: I'll get to making a sf tracker feature request, but has someone requested having WAU simply have an option to run a series of commands (or a batch file maybe) after a completed update?
05:08.15ckknight[Wobin]: I know the problem!
05:08.24[Wobin]woo?
05:08.26ckknight[Wobin]: you misspelled independent
05:08.30[Wobin]><
05:08.43ckknightdon't worry, I did the same thing when I wrote it ;-)
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05:13.14CIA-1703pastamancer * r22702 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: remove center text 2 indicator from the menu if it's disabled.
05:16.05[Wobin]ck, does any particular 'OnX' function get called when a profile changes?
05:16.12[Wobin](Enable/Init/etc
05:16.13[Wobin])
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05:16.24ckknightOnProfileDisable then OnProfileEnable
05:16.29ckknightthis is in the wiki
05:16.53ckknightyou'll use OnProfileEnable, typically
05:17.52[Wobin]hm, not in the FuBarPlugin wiki page
05:18.34ckknight[Wobin]: AceDB
05:18.35alcarascan grid do mt targets?
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05:18.38[Wobin]ah gotcha
05:18.39alcarasor just the raid
05:18.47[Wobin]just confused a bit =P
05:20.10pastamanceralcaras: just the raid
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05:22.10CIA-1703kodewulf * r22703 10Toolbox-1.0/Toolbox-1.0.toc:
05:22.10CIA-17Toolbox-1.0
05:22.10CIA-17* Updated TOC
05:22.10CIA-17<PROTECTED>
05:22.21WebGuestgood morning ;)
05:22.52ckknightmorning, WebGuest
05:23.27WebGuesti'm looking for a replacement for my discord frame modifier i just use it for moving some minimap buttons scale them and hide some other things like the standard buff window..could you recommend me any addon?
05:23.45ckknightWebGuest: KC_Mobility maybe
05:23.50WebGuestsry 4 my bad english skills..hi ckknight nice to talk to you..i love your addons ;)
05:23.55ZealotOnAStickVisor2, perhaps with Visor2 GUI, or KC_Mobility
05:24.01ckknightWebGuest: good times
05:24.16ZealotOnAStick~seen TheKarn
05:24.31purlthekarn is currently on #wowi-lounge (13h 38m 27s) #wowace (13h 38m 27s). Has said a total of 327 messages. Is idling for 2h 5m 52s, last said: 'sylvanaar, how about also knowing that self:Bar() really only does MyMod.bar(MyMod)...'.
05:24.33WebGuestdont have to lie to say that..thx 4 your hard work
05:24.50WebGuestthanks i will try them zealot and ckknight
05:24.56ckknightthere's another way you could show thanks
05:25.03nymbiarofl
05:25.21WebGuestcurrently using that inofficial discord hack..but it nukes me with error messages...so how?
05:27.11WebGuestcan i only drag blizzard frames with kc mobility?
05:27.13ZealotOnAStickMeany ck, picking on the ESL crowd.
05:27.27ckknightZealotOnAStick: I'm not picking on him
05:27.35ckknightWebGuest: try it and find out
05:27.37ckknight*thumbs up*
05:27.43ZealotOnAStickI know.  I'm picking on you.  :P
05:28.08WebGuest^^ i'll do so..because description could be interpretated this way
05:29.14WebGuestgot a question concerning ora2..would it be possible to make it support a "normal party" and not just only raid...would love to have mt targets when doing strat or bla ;)
05:29.44Zodi<PROTECTED>
05:30.02ZealotOnAStickWebGuest, check out MainAssist.
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05:39.16alcaraswhat's a good addon to see all incoming heals to you?
05:39.36ilifinsct?
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05:40.54alcarasmm
05:41.10alcaraswhat's a good addon to see all pending incoming heals to you -- i.e. before they land on you
05:41.35ZodiForecast
05:41.50Zodibut it requires all in the raid to use it
05:41.55Zodiat least all who are using heals
05:42.09alcarasah
05:42.13Zodiyou can then see all incomming spellcasts on you and on your target
05:42.16alcarasanything without that requirement?
05:42.17ZealotOnAStickHealWatch maybe?
05:43.09pastamancerhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4732-HealWatch.html has links to a few
05:43.47pastamancerwhichever one you go with will require some sort of addon communication to determine the heal target before the heal is finished casting
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05:44.04alcaraswhat about watching what everyone casts?
05:44.18ilifinyou can watch what everyone casts but not who they're casting on
05:44.22pastamanceryou don't get target info for other units
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05:44.36alcarasah
05:44.43alcarasonly what they cast, not where?
05:44.50alcarashow does grid show incoming heal indicator then?
05:45.00ckknightis CIA-17 down or slow?
05:45.24pastamancerGrid uses SendAddonMessage and it also can do some guessing for people not using Grid
05:46.39nymbiackknight: one or the other, take your pick
05:46.48ckknightnymbia: :-(
05:46.58nymbiackknight: it was about 20 minutes late on my last commit
05:47.06ZealotOnAStickI think just really slow.
05:47.07ckknightoh
05:47.21ckknightwell, I'm using TextMate
05:47.29ckknightwas really cool to commit straight from my editor
05:47.45alcarasis there a way to access the last spell interrupted from a macro?
05:47.55alcarase.g. "Interrupted (spell name).  Pummel down for the next 10s!"
05:48.00ZealotOnAStickI'd like to use UltraEdit32/UEStudio . . . but I can't get the color options to work well enough to not drive me nuts.
05:48.19ZealotOnAStickI can't believe that something with so many options has such piss-poor color controls.
05:48.22KarlThePaganalcaras, if Iriel updated it "AfterCast" will help with that
05:48.47KarlThePaganI'm not sure if he did the 1.x version won't work with wow
05:48.50KarlThePagan2.0
05:48.58ZealotOnAStickI hate the whole "white background" thing on editors.
05:49.06ZealotOnAStickI always invert it, light colors for text, black background.
05:49.15KarlThePaganBorland eh?
05:49.16ckknightZealotOnAStick: *shrug*
05:49.26ilifinyou should get GVim or just simply vim then, ZealotOnAStick
05:49.27pastamanceralcaras: not from a macro, but you could probably put together a simple addon using UNIT_SPELLCAST_START and/or UnitCastingInfo
05:49.41ZealotOnAStickWith UE32, I do that, and certain bits of the context coloring just ends up a really dark blue that's damn hard to see on black.
05:49.42Xuerianilifin seems to have the logical answer.
05:49.43alcaraspastamancer: kk, i'll look at how sct adds the message
05:50.06ilifinI reckon vim has lua code coloring aswell
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05:50.16pastamanceralcaras: oh, also UNIT_SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTED
05:50.28ZealotOnAStickKarlThePagan - I suppose, maybe?  I dunno, I haven't touched a Borland editor since 1992 with Turbo Pascal.
05:50.42KarlThePaganbut you always remember your first time :0
05:51.03ZealotOnAStickMy editor coloring habits predate that.
05:51.07KarlThePaganoo
05:51.16ZealotOnAStickMy dad always wanted a blue background for stuff, that drove me nuts too.
05:51.21ilifinI had a period I was trying to color my editors like "edit" for DOS
05:51.30ilifinwhich was the first text editor I ever used back in 1990-ish
05:51.42ZealotOnAStickSee, one of the things I like most about CrimsonEditor is I can get it to look almost exactly how I want it to.
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05:55.41Barbanus"I need a mod to tell me how long things like gouge are going to last"
05:56.00BarbanusAnyone know what I can suggest?
05:56.14ZodiFuBar_RougeHelperFu
05:56.19KarlThePaganchronometer?
05:56.27KarlThePaganyea
05:56.33CIA-1703kagaro * r22704 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: lessened the filter stranglehold .. it was too restrictive and changed instance notes sharing to general sharing
05:58.13ZealotOnAStickRogueTimerFu
05:59.04ilifinBarbanus - NECB
05:59.14Tullertextpad, black background
05:59.29Tulleraka, I need to not have a CRT anymore
05:59.48ilifinBarbanus - I live and breathe with the need for natur enemy castingbar's rogue stun timers
06:00.20KarlThePaganyea necb is the traditional answer
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06:04.16PProvostZealotOnAStick, yes, that has been asked for, but I don't think it is in the tracker.
06:06.25alcarasanyway to control how grid fades out of range folk? i'd like to make it ... more of a fade :p
06:06.58alcarasi am a grid noob :-/
06:07.16KarlThePaganin the option for range change the color
06:07.26alcarasunder status?
06:07.33KarlThePaganyea i think that's the one
06:08.18alcarashrm, it doesn't update dynamically... maybe i have to press ok :-/
06:08.39KarlThePaganye
06:09.45alcarasah
06:09.48alcarasit's the range check frequency of 2
06:09.51alcarasthat makes it take a moment to update
06:09.53alcarasthanks :)
06:10.29alcarasgrid is very hot :)
06:10.35KarlThePagani wub it for healing
06:10.50alcarasi use it for tanking and raid monitoring/leading
06:10.54alcarase.g. in karazhan http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1462/wowscrnshot123006003408ae4.jpg
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06:11.21CIA-1703pastamancer * r22705 10Grid/GridStatusAuras.lua: Grid: fixed GridStatusAuras menu ordering.
06:11.24Tricksta_Ckk ...C'mon man!
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06:11.33Tricksta_Waypoints on minimap?
06:11.33pastamancerwow, CIA is hella laggy
06:11.59Tricksta_Tierd of Mapnotes/Alphamap laggin me out
06:12.26Tricksta_Wanna use Carto but without being able to set mapnote waypoints to follow to quest tlocs
06:12.29Tricksta_it sucks
06:14.12sylvanaarZealotOnAStick: you know there are updated syntax coloring files for UE32
06:14.31pastamanceralcaras: I'd love to hear more about how you use grid as a tank/raid leader: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:Grid_User%27s_Documentation
06:14.45HealthStrange. I get a security popup every time I loot coins... bartender3
06:15.08pastamanceralcaras: I need more ideas for the documentation :)
06:15.15[Wobin]=(
06:15.27[Wobin]I'm getting a utf8sub error on grid
06:15.33[Wobin]am I missing a libarry?
06:16.41sylvanaarfyi, still lookin for more people to use the development version of Prat PST
06:17.31ZealotOnASticksylvanaar - I've got the WoW Lua wordslist file for UE32 . . . is there something else I should have?
06:17.44ckknight:-( <--- how I feel about Blizzard's :SetTexCoord
06:18.46pastamancer[Wobin]: did you update without loggout out/in of wow?
06:18.52[Wobin]nope
06:18.57[Wobin]but I'll do that now
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06:20.23sylvanaarZealotOnAStick: add it to your wordfile of course, then you can change the colors
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06:33.08Healthckknight: sad panda :(
06:33.14ckknightyep
06:33.26Healtheven I have used it once!
06:33.32Healthnormalised texture coords!
06:33.45HealthYou can do some fancy stuff with all those parameters
06:34.52ckknightHealth: I can't rotate without bleeding.
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06:35.46Health:(
06:38.33[Wobin]ckknight: I just did the same thing I did with my 3d rendering assignment for uni
06:38.43[Wobin]dump it all in a function that works and ignore it for ever =P
06:38.59[Wobin]rotation makes my eyes bleed =(
06:39.12[Wobin]Thankfully I only had to rotate a bar 180
06:45.05ckknightI need someone who has been to Ahn'Qiraj to answer me a question
06:45.15nymbiashoot
06:45.35ckknightnymbia: you know the instance map in Cartographer?
06:45.39nymbiayeah
06:46.04ckknightnymbia: is it rotated correctly or have you noticed that it's off?
06:46.20ckknightsuch as, 30-degrees rotated or so
06:46.24nymbiackknight: lemme take a quick look, one sec
06:46.32ckknightcompared to the real minimap, I mean.
06:46.41ckknightif it is rotated, that's very good news for me.
06:47.24ckknightnymbia: I could show you two images and you could tell me which is the "real" one as far as the minimap is concerned
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06:48.13nymbiackknight: my hunch looking at it is that it's off, but yeah, show me the comparison
06:48.14ckknighthey grennon
06:48.25grennonhowdy
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06:49.08ZealotOnAStickAhh, good to know my months of not playing hasn't left me entirely too rusty to be useful in City of Heroes.
06:49.56grennonanyone know if adding lines to mail tooltip for mails containing money never worked or if its something new?
06:50.05ZealotOnAStickI might be able to help as well with that, ck, I've been in AQ entirely too many times.
06:50.15ckknightZealotOnAStick: okay, I'll show you, too
06:50.24ckknightbasically, I'll show you two maps, you tell me which is the correct one.
06:50.29ckknightthe only difference is rotation.
06:50.43ZealotOnAStickC'thun's room is one of the easiest to tell right off on, as it's offset from cardinal directions anyway.
06:50.59ZealotOnAStickgrennon: no idea.
06:51.39Nargiddley-outjust found an aq screenshot, i'll compare it ck
06:51.42ckknightalpha: http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9057/screenshot122906204806nx4.jpg
06:51.50ckknightbravo: http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7018/screenshot122906204734vq7.jpg
06:52.12HealthI miss sprocket!
06:52.15Nargiddleyalpha is correct
06:52.45ckknightsrsly?
06:52.52nymbiamy gut says bravo
06:52.55ckknightNargiddley: can I see your aq screenshot?
06:53.04Nargiddleyuploading
06:53.16nymbiasince i thought ouro's room went straight off west like that
06:53.32Nargiddleymy ss is of the entrance to ouros
06:53.38nymbiaaha ;)
06:53.49Nargiddleyhttp://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3856/aqzq9.jpg
06:54.13ckknightman...
06:54.16anenigmawho had that scheme quote in here?
06:54.28ckknightanenigma: which one?
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06:54.45ckknightokay, here's the clincher: in the mpq, it's my bravo screenshot.
06:54.51BankZAnyone know of a mod that lets me move around the player and party frame?
06:54.52Nargiddleyoh god :/
06:55.01ckknightNargiddley: yea...
06:55.18nymbiackknight: that's damn stupid.  :(
06:55.36ckknightso I _could_ ship Cartographer with the bravo style, seeing as I can't rotate 30-degrees without bleeding
06:55.43ckknightor I could keep it using the giant texture
06:55.47ckknightwhat do you people think?
06:56.15nymbiait's not crucial to stay dead-on with the minimap for people to be able to navigate. i'd say use the mpq.
06:56.16kenlyrichow do I tell what my pvp state is using aguf?
06:56.27ZealotOnAStickI'm going to say alpha
06:56.35ckknightnymbia: I'm thinking so, too
06:57.12ckknightZealotOnAStick: would using Bravo hinder you in-game?
06:57.19anenigmackknight: the shift 9+0 one
06:57.50ckknightHowto write Scheme: Step 1) hold shift. Step 2) press 9 and 0 back and forth in a frantic manner.
06:58.02ZealotOnAStickMe?  No.  I don't bother looking at the minimap to get around AQ40 anyway.  Others?  Who can say.
06:58.16ckknightmaybe I could put a disclaimer...
06:58.19ZealotOnAStickThe 2d maps on certain instances with multiple levels are nigh-pointless at points anyway.
06:58.25ZealotOnAStickWailing Caverns, f'rinstance.
06:58.30ckknightah, right.
06:58.37Nargiddleyckknight, i have an ugly function from when they first put the new texcoord functions in
06:58.43nymbiaand sunken temple, lol
06:58.44Nargiddleythat rotates
06:58.57kenlyricsunken temple... shudder.
06:59.04ckknightNargiddley: I have a much better one probably, but SetTexCoord causes bleeding when you go out of the [0,1]x[0,1] box
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06:59.11kenlyricow, my brain. there's got to be an option for this.
06:59.15Nargiddleyyeah :/
06:59.25nymbiakenlyric: ?
07:01.28kenlyrictrying to make aguf show my pvp status.
07:01.39kenlyricor, something in my ui show my pvp status :)
07:02.43grennonoh man, i was thinking about that the other day
07:02.52grennoni zoned into naxx flagged and didnt realize it
07:03.09grennonstarted scanning the options in the menus looking for it
07:03.55grennoncouldnt find it though, i assumed it was one of those "im a nub" issues though and just shadowmelded and waited out my flag
07:05.35nymbiakenlyric: there's a fubar plugin that shows your status and cooldown, i think.
07:06.42ckknightHonorFu
07:06.56ZealotOnAStickkenlyric - I believe that's something set in the theme file, or not. What theme are you using?
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07:07.28grennoni tried all the styles, no pvp flag indicator
07:07.43nymbiaoh yeah.  i think i remember it being on by default.  then i turned it off.  kinda pointless on a pvp server ;)
07:07.46ZealotOnAStickIt's there, it just may overlap.
07:08.03ZealotOnAStickI made my own adjustment of the ABF theme to move around some of the icons.
07:09.19ZealotOnAStickPVPIcon is the definition for it in the theme file.
07:15.53grennonworking with the blizzard mail system is akin to working with rocks in a field
07:16.05grennonyou lift up the rock and all the cockroaches run out
07:17.43kenlyricany idea what it might overlaping with?
07:19.37ZealotOnAStickCheck the theme file and see if any other icons have the same positions?
07:19.58ZealotOnAStickHold on, lemme make sure I'm not insane and talking out of my ass.
07:20.19ZealotOnAStickand, you never answered that I noticed, which theme are you using?
07:20.23kenlyricI'm guessing that involves editing the files manually :)
07:20.49kenlyricwhatever the default is... ABF
07:20.53ZealotOnAStickok, checked, not insane.
07:21.09ZealotOnAStickPvP icon should show up on the top right corner of the frame when you're flagged.
07:21.22ZealotOnAStickShould be either the horde or alliance symbol, per faction.
07:21.39kenlyricso, wouldn't that be a bug if it doesn't?
07:21.49ZealotOnAStickJust toggled pvp on and off with my rogue, working fine, with ABF
07:22.37ZealotOnAStickAnd uh . . .
07:22.51ZealotOnAStickdo you have agUF_Fu or are you just using /aguf config?
07:23.02ZealotOnAStickNever mind, same place on both.
07:23.22ZealotOnAStickMain agUF menu, not in any of the submenus: "Show PvP Icons" - is that checked?
07:23.39grennonahhhhh
07:24.11kenlyriclol.
07:24.14kenlyricI'm braindead
07:24.21grennonsee, i knew it was an "i r nub" issue
07:24.26grennonglad im not the only one though
07:24.59kenlyricthanks for the help. I went through every damn submenu ;)
07:25.19kenlyricseems strange that I would have turned that off.
07:25.36ZealotOnAStickDon't worry, I was questioning my sanity the other day trying to find something in Prat when a guildmate said "Probably in the disabled modules menu" and I felt stupid.
07:25.44ZealotOnAStickThen asked "Uhm, when was that added?"
07:26.40ZealotOnAStickHmm.  Should I watch Crank, Pulse, The Devil Wears Prada, or A Clockwork Orange?
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07:28.37kenlyricD
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07:38.56ckknightokay, big commit for Cartographer
07:39.03ckknightplease update and test.
07:39.13ckknightfor anyone who's up to the challenge, please fix the instance notes.
07:39.28ckknightthey'll be slightly off for the affected instances
07:50.10nymbiasounds painful
07:51.36GBBG|Boobies4udamn
07:51.38GBBG|Boobies4uthey killed saddam
07:51.46ckknightnymbia: worth it
07:51.49ckknightGBBG|Boobies4u: srsly?
07:51.54GBBG|Boobies4uyes
07:51.54nymbiackknight: i agree.
07:52.05GBBG|Boobies4uckknight, he dident use dogchow so they hanged him
07:52.10ckknight...
07:52.12GBBG|Boobies4ulol
07:53.25grennonneed a suggestion for a name for a mail library
07:53.32grennonMailLib is just kind of drab
07:54.01grennonMailmix was my other thought, but its not very compelling either
07:54.07ckknightYouveGotMail-1.0
07:54.14grennonplus it sounds vagely like Meoxmix
07:54.21ckknightI like chicken
07:54.23ckknightI like liver
07:54.29grennons/Meoxmix/Meowmix/
07:54.30ckknightmeow mix meow mix
07:54.33ckknightplease deliver
07:55.13grennonhow about CT_Mailmod_CanBiteMe_Lib ?
07:55.21grennonor is it too soon?
07:56.45grennonhrm, i wonder what kevin costner's character name was from the epic scifi classic "the postman"
07:58.12kenlyriccall it Newman
07:58.19sylvanaarim not having much luck recruiting ppl for testing the new prat version
07:59.54ckknightPostman-1.0
08:00.14grennonPostman-2.0, the long awaited SQL
08:00.36grennonhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119925/
08:01.55grennonhow that movie was shut out of the oscars i will never understand, it had a wooden hero, a lame villian, and had the pace of a fishing show
08:02.54ZealotOnAStickThere you go.
08:02.57ZealotOnAStickCall the lib Bobber
08:03.15kenlyrichttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_carrier#Famous_carriers
08:03.24ZealotOnAStickStick a comment somewhere in it to explain the esoteric reference.
08:03.38nymbiabobber sounds like a fishing lib though ;)
08:04.09ZealotOnAStickHe asked for a name suggestion; he didn't say it needed to make -sense-.
08:04.11grennonKarlMaloneLib
08:04.20nymbiarofl
08:04.28grennonim so doing that
08:07.23ckknightit doesn't make sense...
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08:10.00Benumbedgreat, site still has old version and I updated on accident and overwrote all my changes
08:12.41GBBG|Boobies4uckknight
08:12.42GBBG|Boobies4uare u here
08:12.59ckknightyes
08:13.02nymbiahe has never left you
08:13.04nymbia;)
08:13.05GBBG|Boobies4uckknight, have you seen http://www.tinyurl.se/9f7
08:13.07ckknightyou saw me just talk.
08:14.33ckknightlol.
08:14.36ckknightBollywood ftw.
08:16.31ZealotOnAStickoy
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08:24.04Nargiddleyis CIA-17 dead ?
08:24.55nymbiamostly.
08:25.05Nargiddleywell
08:25.05CIA-17ow
08:25.24NargiddleyCompressing ammo, shards or everything and quality colors is in Baggins now
08:27.11grennonPostal-1.0
08:27.44grennonor would that name be a trademark infringement you think?
08:28.08mjcno
08:28.16mjcthe game has nothing to do with the mail
08:29.51ckknightgrennon: you'll be fine.
08:30.35grennoni really dont want to put this junk in the trunk
08:31.17nymbiathat's what branches are gor
08:31.19nymbiafor*
08:34.22Benumbedwhat do you put for the revision to show in version? $Rev$ like it says seems to not work
08:35.01ZealotOnAStickYou have to set an svn:Keyword property on the file, with "Rev" or "Revision" as the value
08:35.59Benumbedkk
08:37.08kenlyricNewman!
08:38.35neeneeHm. Is there a mass mail addon liike bulkmail which does not require me to install both Ace and AceGui?
08:39.53mjcneenee: grennon is writing one right now
08:40.39neeneehm.
08:40.49neeneeBut that does not help me at this time :) Thanks for the reply though.
08:41.22sylvanaarso can anyone think of a module i can add to prat so to show off the enhanced parser?
08:41.52kenlyricis your computer going to start eating babies if you install ace and acegui?
08:42.10kenlyricI'm concerned about my own computer.
08:43.08ckknightkenlyric: yes, it's a bad side-effect
08:43.15ckknightthe baby-eating, that is
08:43.32kenlyricit's a small tradeoff for kc_items
08:43.44ZealotOnAStickHmm.  Something that counts the number of certain repetitively used phrases or text objects and returns a running total?
08:43.54ckknightKaelten is supposedly working on KCI 2.0
08:44.42ZealotOnAStickOr maybe add in one of those chat cleaner things that fixes common typos and leet speak and so forth?
08:44.49ZealotOnAStickOr give it a pirate-speak module!
08:45.10kenlyricbite your tongue and spit it out in a bloody lump.
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08:46.18kenlyriccan you write a module that hunts down people who type ne1?
08:47.08ckknightI still need a way to troll the WMOs in the mpqs myself...
08:47.17ckknightthe data I'm using is stolen from another mod...
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09:04.53ckknightis vid` here?
09:06.51vid`yea
09:06.52vid`:P
09:07.20vid`about to goto bed been doing warsong for like 8 hours straight haha
09:07.23vid`im so beat
09:07.28vid`4am
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09:12.25ckknightvid`: guess what feature I'm working on
09:12.32ckknightit's related to FuBar
09:12.34vid`lol
09:12.35ckknightand tooltips
09:12.37ckknightand combat
09:12.37vid`i know :P
09:12.39vid`woohoo
09:16.33[Wobin]><
09:16.36[Wobin]"Saddam, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night!"
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09:23.26ZealotOnAStickOk, Crank was a pretty darn good movie.
09:26.06[Wobin]Did they wipe the beta forums?
09:26.08mjcthe motorcycle one?
09:27.19ZealotOnAStickBeta forums responding just fine for me.
09:27.48ZealotOnAStickmjc - the one with the guy from The Transporter where he's injected with this chinese synthetic poison and he has to keep his adrenaline flowing to stay alive and kill his murderer.
09:27.59[Wobin]well, more that I recall a post I answered last night
09:28.02[Wobin]that no longer is there
09:28.09[Wobin]Jason Stratham?
09:28.14mjcah
09:28.17mjcthat's different
09:29.15ZealotOnAStickYes, Jason Statham.  
09:30.08sylvanaarhmm, this wholib thing looks useful
09:30.18sylvanaarhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3748
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09:34.37[Wobin]Lets hear it for chinese synthetic poisons!
09:34.41[Wobin]hip hip hurrah!
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09:42.09ckknightvid`: done
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09:46.32ckknightI want CIA back
09:48.55Fisker-brbfbi then
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09:52.55GBBG|Boobies4uckknight, cia wont be back, they hung him this morning
09:53.04ckknightlol
09:53.07[Wobin]Just wait three days =P
09:53.36ckknight[Wobin]: Jesus rose about 36 hours after he died, not 3 days.
09:53.51[Wobin]yes, but everyone knows "On the third day he rose again"
09:54.03[Wobin]so it's easier to go by standard lore, than specifics
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09:54.58ckknightOn the third day doesn't mean three days later, it means two days later
09:55.10ckknightJesus died just before sunset on a Friday
09:55.12[Wobin]and your point is? =P
09:55.21ckknightand rose right after sunrise on Sunday
09:55.31[Wobin]If I said "Just wait two days" no one would get the reference
09:55.38ckknightI would've.
09:55.43GBBG|Boobies4ubut you are a geek
09:55.45[Wobin]You're in the minority =P
09:55.57ckknightGBBG|Boobies4u: I just know a lot of crazy religious lore
09:56.00GBBG|Boobies4ui dont get it even if he said three days or two days
09:56.27[Wobin]As I said, it's all about standard lore, not the specifics =P
09:56.27[Wobin]Who said religious belief had anything to do with logic?
09:58.49ckknightprobably quite a few old philosophers.
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10:05.35CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22734 10Prat/Prat/ (frames/pratcc.xml modules/CopyChat.lua): Prat: More efficient + added some space for the chatframe title
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10:08.21CIA-1703grennon * r22735 10/branches/Postal/ (. Postal-1.0.lua):
10:08.21CIA-17Postal: initial commit
10:08.21CIA-17- <mail handling library>
10:09.00[Wobin]nahnah
10:09.23[Wobin]not "who said religious belief should have anything to do with logic"
10:09.38[Wobin]but "who said religious belief had anything to do with logic" =P
10:11.02mjcgrennon: sweet
10:11.10grennonnot sweet yet
10:11.15grennonmore like prickly and sour
10:11.31[Wobin]dShould have called it Postgren
10:11.50Fisker-oooh
10:11.51[Wobin]then had it parse SQL
10:11.53Fisker-grennon is back
10:11.56Fisker-that IS sweet
10:11.58grennoni just needed to get something out there so in case im going about it all wrong, someone can say "dont do that"
10:12.11Fisker-You're doing it wrong!
10:12.19grennonthanks
10:12.44[Wobin]That's what I love about this community =)
10:12.52[Wobin]constructive criticism
10:13.03grennonnow whats the property i need to set to get to expand the revision?
10:13.10[Wobin]$rev$
10:13.25[Wobin]keyword
10:13.33CIA-1703fenlis * r22736 10MusicStream/modules/ (Channels.lua SkipChannel.lua):
10:13.33CIA-17MusicStream:
10:13.33CIA-17<PROTECTED>
10:13.38Fisker-NOOOOOOO
10:13.42Fisker-damn koreans
10:13.45[Wobin]hehe
10:13.46[Wobin]kpop
10:13.54[Wobin]it's funny stuff
10:13.59[Wobin]You watch the music videos
10:14.13[Wobin]They have a time out 3/4 of the way through the song to further the movie storyline they have going.
10:14.24[Wobin]The music stops, and the story keeps going =P
10:14.28Fisker-heh
10:14.29Fisker-:P
10:14.36[Wobin]And then someone dies in a horrible carcrash at the end
10:14.47Fisker-my ui is starting to be insane(z0rz)
10:14.57Fisker-just need to clean up some buttons or something like that
10:15.32Fisker-I really need an autobar with dreamlayout looks from bartender :(
10:16.28CIA-1703grennon * r22737 10/branches/Postal/Postal-1.0.lua: Postal: test svn keyword Rev
10:16.53grennonsweet
10:16.55CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22738 10Prat/Prat/modules/ChatLink.lua: Prat: converted chatlink to use Prat Events
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10:18.28[Wobin]Hey sylvanaar
10:18.30[Wobin]you there?
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10:28.28neeneesame here Fisker, that would be great
10:30.43CIA-1703fenlis * r22739 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
10:30.43CIA-17Babble-2.2:
10:30.43CIA-17- Updated locales koKR
10:30.50CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22740 10Prat/Prat/modules/ (4 files): Prat: Removed old hook based implementations
10:31.59Ordogmornin
10:33.04Ordogwhats the mod that puts timestamps on the chatframe? and only that ...
10:33.14Ordogcan prat be used to do only that?
10:33.20nevcairielsure
10:33.24nevcairieljust disable all other stuff
10:35.38Ordoghmk .. using WIM along hope that doesnt bite each other on firstload
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10:37.28hanzzon~seen ckknight
10:37.51purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (15m 28s) #wowace (15m 28s), last said: 'probably quite a few old philosophers.'.
10:37.51ckknight...
10:38.12hanzzonnot in work now ckknight?
10:38.16Mimesishey nevcairiel, does bt3 still use button onup, rather than ondown?
10:38.51nevcairieland it always will
10:39.00Mimesisah ic
10:39.16nevcairielthe default actionbars use onup, why change that?
10:39.32Mimesisim curious is there a reason for not having it able to be chosen by the user
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10:40.48Mimesiswhy change it: well depending on the way any given user handles his keyboard, ondown may fire the actions he/she wants much faster
10:41.13nevcairielondown is fired when you try to move spells in the bars
10:41.17nevcairielthats why it isnt used.
10:42.08nymbiawith the global cooldown, ondown is really no faster than onup.  just different.
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10:43.23Mimesiswell, i find playing my rogue, which is limited by energy ticks and not global cooldown, i have always prefered ondown to hit things like eviscerate, i know i do feel the difference
10:44.02Mimesisbut if its not worth working with im sure i can train my fingers to leave the key faster
10:45.03ckknightno, hanzzon
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10:45.17DhragaMorning all
10:45.53hanzzonckknight; got time to put those fixes in Cartographer_Mining? http://ace.pastey.net/4129
10:46.14hanzzonckknight; sorry, Cartographer_Import, not mining ;-) but to fix mining :P
10:47.21Fisker-feels kinda silly with onup
10:47.27Fisker-cause you can hold stuff down but not cancel it :(
10:47.40Fisker-unless it's a spell of c ourse
10:47.52nevcairieldefault actionbars use onup, just l2p with it :)
10:48.13Fisker-didn't say that :P
10:48.45Fisker-just said i find it silly that they use onup when ondown would technically be faster
10:49.23Fisker-btw
10:49.31Fisker-where are positions for bars and such stored
10:49.42nevcairielin the saved variables ? :P
10:49.47Fisker-hmm
10:49.58[Wobin]I don't mind onup
10:50.07Fisker-after i deleted both my char and normal sv's bartender 3 didn't reset places at all
10:50.10[Ammo]just don't use the mouse on the action bars :p
10:50.11[Wobin]it saves me a lot of times for misclicking
10:50.15Fisker-although more bars were show and stuff
10:50.31Fisker-unless i just happen to be using default for my bars :D
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10:51.04Fisker-well as far as i know you still can't change the cast/spell/abillity/whatever onup?
10:52.14ckknighthanzzon: committed
10:52.34hanzzonckknight; thnx
10:52.37nevcairielwhen you try to move spells out of the bars, ondown gets fired, and since you dont want your spells to go off at that point, onup casts the spell
10:53.02nevcairielits as simple as that
10:53.24Fisker-ah yeah
10:53.29Fisker-a mouse click is technically an ondown :P
10:54.02nevcairiela mouse click is both
10:54.09nevcairiel:)
10:54.55Fisker-lala
10:57.01Fisker-EA needs to die for calling C&C3 "Tiberium Wars", also for the logo, the boxart, and the third faction logo :(
10:57.31CIA-1703nargiddley * r22741 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
10:57.31CIA-17Baggins:
10:57.31CIA-17- Opens at vendors and mailbox
10:57.31CIA-17- Bags shrinking width to fit items is now optional
10:57.31CIA-17- Can set where auto layout will place the bags
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11:00.06Ziconnargiddley: Have you been reading my mind? I've been playing with Baggins for the last hour or so, and those are THE three features I've been missing. o_O
11:00.30Nargiddleyhehe
11:00.38Nargiddleyseems everyone wants very similar things
11:00.47ZiconI could hug you, I really could.
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11:08.42sylvanaarhow do i make the pattern for the character in the set %s and not %[
11:08.42neeneeHm. What would be a good bank complement to Baggins?
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11:09.13sylvanaar[%s^%[] does that look right?
11:10.09nevcairielnot really
11:10.18nevcairielone more opening bracket then closing
11:10.37ckknightno, nevcairiel
11:10.50ckknightsylvanaar: the ^ is out of place.
11:11.00sylvanaaryeah
11:11.11ckknightnevcairiel: the % is an escape
11:11.14nevcairieloh
11:11.16sylvanaar[^%[%s] would be wrong also
11:11.18nevcairiellua is so weird
11:11.35sylvanaar[^%[%S] maybe?
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11:13.42ckknightsylvanaar: what're you trying to achieve?
11:15.42sylvanaarurls get gsub'ed in prat multiple times unless the pattern has a leading space www.microsoft.com -> [www.microsoft.com] i dont want to match again
11:16.36sylvanaari guess i could do ([^%[])
11:17.44sylvanaarand then do %1...rest of string
11:17.56sylvanaarseems awful
11:18.56nymbiashouldnt need to be that complex.
11:19.21sylvanaarin a regex you use lookbehind
11:19.27sylvanaaror you can
11:19.55nymbiacan you pastey the whole gsub?
11:26.30sylvanaarsure
11:26.33nymbiasylvanaar: is there something more distinct you could look for?  a color escape sequence or something?
11:27.29sylvanaarhttp://ace.pastey.net/4173
11:27.35sylvanaarthe bracket
11:27.53sylvanaaronce it has been gsubbed once it will have a leading bracket
11:28.11sylvanaarwww.microsoft.com -> [www.microsoft.com]
11:29.45sylvanaarthose are the patterns with the space leader, if you remove teh space then more than one match occurs
11:30.40nymbiaso you're trying to get rid of the leading space and still rule out brackets?
11:31.05sylvanaar[5][Grubern]:  |Hurl: [www.microsoft.com][www.microsoft.com[www.microsoft.com]]
11:31.27sylvanaaris the result
11:31.37nymbiawith the leading space still there?
11:31.41sylvanaarno
11:31.43Nargiddleytrying to match urls, except ones that have [ ] around them
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11:32.22sylvanaarsee, with the space there there is no way to match "www.microsoft.com"
11:32.42sylvanaarit would have to be " www.microsoft.com"
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11:33.05Neriakheya
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11:33.26sylvanaarstring.gsub (chatstring, "www%.([_A-Za-z0-9-]+)%.(%S+)%s?", Prat_UrlCopy:Link ("www.%1.%2"))
11:34.21Neriakbtw very cool function sylvanaar :)
11:34.31nymbiasylvanaar: hm.  try replacing the space with "[^%[]?"
11:35.03sylvanaarthen you get www.microsoft.com -> ww.microsoft.com
11:35.43nymbiatrue
11:36.12nymbia[^%[%A]?
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11:36.39nymbiaor rather, [^%[%A%D]?
11:36.56nymbiaso as not to eat the first digit of the ip addys
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11:38.52hanzzonckknight; just curious, when do we see the commited changes you made to Cartographer_Import go "live" on wowace.com/files?
11:39.08nymbiahanzzon: takes up to 20 minutes.
11:39.16hanzzonok, thnx
11:39.17add\\LeialynHi, oCB seems to be gone, is there a new ace2 castingbar addon ?
11:39.40nymbiaadd\\Leialyn: http://fuxsake.net/
11:40.41xlviidoes anyone know what the default width / height of candybar is?
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11:41.49Ominousxlvii ill chech hangon
11:41.52nymbiasylvanaar: does "[^%[%A%D]?" work
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11:42.18Ominousxlvii width 200 height 16
11:43.43sylvanaarnymbia: no
11:43.56nymbiasylvanaar: still multi-parsing?
11:44.08sylvanaarno matches
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11:44.46sylvanaari dont think you can use 2 negated classes
11:46.00nymbiahmm yeah.  try ^%a^%d, maybe.  but it might be better to do this a different way -- what do we want to allow in front of a url?  nothing, spaces, and.. periods and commas maybe?
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11:54.51Ominoushaste: you here?
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11:58.58sylvanaarwell, i just put in a hack
11:59.21sylvanaarchatstring = " "..chatstring
11:59.33sylvanaarchatstring = string.sub(chatstring, 1)
12:00.33sylvanaardoesnt solve every case, but i think the implementation is flawed
12:03.42sylvanaarnymbia: see the original code should match the urls and replace the whole match with a marker then come back and replace all the markers in one operation
12:04.28nymbiayeah
12:06.30GBBG|Boobies4ueverytime i see the nick nymbia i think about symbian the dildo machine
12:07.38CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22742 10Prat/Prat/modules/UrlCopy.lua: Prat: insert a dummy space before doing the url matches to handle the start of string special case
12:08.44sylvanaarever thought of a BabbleServer?
12:09.15nevcairielwhat would you need that for?
12:10.33sylvanaarthe name of servers
12:10.33nevcairielthe names dont get translated
12:10.33sylvanaarand thier type
12:10.52sylvanaarperhaps Babble isnt the right fit
12:11.25sylvanaarbut a list of servers + servertype would be handy
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12:12.04sylvanaarserver, abbreviation, type
12:12.05oxgohey !
12:12.23neeneehey?
12:12.46sylvanaarserver, abbreviation, type, region(us/eu)
12:13.02nymbiabattlegroup
12:13.34sylvanaarnymbia: now you're talkin
12:14.36nymbiamaybe pull some basic census data and update every so often.
12:14.59nymbiaand with that
12:15.05nymbiai'm off for a bit
12:15.06nymbia~flee
12:15.09purlACTION runs away screaming
12:15.10sylvanaarthough the only names you will ever come accross in the game are those within your battlegroup
12:15.34nymbiayeah but the info still might be useful, somehow
12:15.38nymbiaok really this time
12:15.40nymbia~flee
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12:19.16sylvanaarwhee yay http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/status.xml
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12:28.56CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22743 10Bartender3/ (Core.lua Style.lua): Bartender3: more cy stuff
12:29.13sylvanaarhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/battlegroups/functions.js
12:29.48neeneeHm. I wish there was another frame in ag_Unitframes, which shows the people/mobs who are targetting you, when they are targetting you.
12:32.29sylvanaarhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/battlegroups/realmNames.js
12:33.08sylvanaarno sweeter than that one
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12:34.46sylvanaarlike x=perl?
12:35.38CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22744 10cyCircled/plugins/Bartender3.lua: cyCircled: Bartender3 plugin, support for PetBar, StanceBar, BagBar
12:36.51CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22745 10cyCircled/plugins/Bartender3.lua: cyCircled: fixed a typo
12:37.38nevcairielthere, perfect now
12:38.16yacoobhttp://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt hahaha
12:44.25CIA-1703wobin * r22746 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:
12:44.25CIA-17FuBar_FuXPFu:
12:44.25CIA-17- fixed a syntax error
12:45.04Ominoushmm i have a basic lua question what does targeted = (targeted > 0 ) and 1 or nil actually do when the inital value is 1 or 0
12:46.04Wobbleif the initial value is 1, then it'll set it as 1
12:46.18Wobbleotheriwse it'll set it as nil if the initial value is 0
12:46.27Wobbleit's a ternary operator of sorts
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12:47.24Nargiddleyx and y or z does the same thing as if x then y else z end
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12:47.59Ominousthanks
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12:51.08GrineAKX, thanks for Chatr update :)
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12:53.25MikmaGngsk: that's ok, i spit on you then :)
12:53.51sylvanaarso how do you think i should store the server info
12:54.05NargiddleyMikma! hihi
12:54.25Mikma05:05 #wowace: <Gngsk> Mikma, I spit upon your rounded texture
12:54.25sylvanaarAegwynn,PvP,9 is the info
12:54.31Nargiddleyseen all the latest goodies ?
12:54.32Mikmain case someone wonders hehe
12:54.41sylvanaar2 tables? or 2 table with tables?
12:54.44MikmaNargiddley: nope, must check backlog!
12:54.56NargiddleyCIA was borked for a bit :/
12:55.00Nargiddleybut...
12:55.20Mikmaheh
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12:55.54Nargiddleyquality colors, compress ammo + shards, open at vendor/mail, set where auto layout puts them
12:56.12Nargiddleythink thats the big ones :D
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12:56.36JensHmm...
12:56.52JensIf I had invented IPv6, I would have called it IP Freely.
12:57.53Mikmahttp://www.cnn.com/
12:57.53GagorianAny mage here with an insight into mage theorycraft?
12:58.04MikmaNargiddley: holy crap that's huuuuuge :D
12:58.35Nargiddleyyep :D
12:58.44Nargiddleyi think thats about all the big outstanding requests
12:59.05Nargiddleyworking on bank now, but this might take a while to get all the little bugs out of
12:59.08Mikmamust i request more now? ;)
12:59.33GrineI gotta try this baggins soon :)
13:00.54Mikmathat's simply amazing, we requested the same feature (stacking) for arkinventory and he still haven't implemented it
13:01.06Mikmai requested it to baggins 2 days ago and it's in now :D
13:01.19Nargiddleywell baggins is only like a week old heh
13:01.36GrineWAU:ing Baggins now :P
13:02.44Mikmagotta hit the sauna now -> bbl :)
13:02.56Grinehmm somethign is borked in TinyTip...
13:02.56CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22747 10Prat/Prat/modules/servers.lua: Prat: tables with server type and battlegroup indexed by server name
13:03.03GrineThrae_!
13:03.10LLoydBatesdoes baggins replace blizzard bags? (meaning: open backpack opens baggins and not the default bag) ..assuming it is a bagreplacement oO
13:03.16LLoydBatesscreenshot around? :O
13:04.02Nargiddleyit opens instead of the backpack at vendors and mailboxes
13:04.12Nargiddleythe bag buttons still open the bliz bags though
13:04.23LLoydBates:(
13:04.31Nargiddleynever liked mods that completely removed the ability to open the defaut ones
13:04.42LLoydBatesthats the only thing that keeps me at OneBag :\
13:05.22LLoydBateswell, i have the bagbar hidden, i only press [b] or FuBar_BagFu (which by default opens the backpack)
13:06.19Nargiddleyit has a keybinding to open the bags, and its own fubar plugin that can open the individual bags
13:06.19kebinusanbaggins needs an option to change the scale of things too
13:06.23kebinusan<PROTECTED>
13:06.41Nargiddleyguess i should make clicking the fubar plugin open all
13:07.19GrineI'm not really getting Baggins :P
13:07.36Grineah there, a /rl did it
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13:09.00kebinusanits nice you can make your own little autobarish view, showing all your pots and bandages and toys and such
13:09.14CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22748 10Prat/Prat/modules/servers.lua: Prat: battlegroup names
13:10.16neeneeIs there an addon which works well with Baggins, but shows the bank slots?
13:10.54kebinusannot yet
13:10.59GrineNargiddley, Consecrated Sharpening Stones, aren't showing in consumables, tips?
13:11.05Nargiddleyi'm working on bank slots right now, maybe tomorrow
13:11.24kebinusanthey need to be added to periodic table
13:11.33Nargiddleycomsumables is based on the itemtype GetItemInfo returns
13:11.39neeneeok
13:14.14GrineAmmo is based on ammopouches?
13:14.41Nargiddleyyeah
13:15.02Nargiddleyall the rules are editable
13:15.16CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22749 10Prat/Prat/modules/servers.lua: Prat: battlegroup names + cleanup
13:15.31Nargiddleyright click the fubar plugin, edit categories
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13:17.35Grine:)
13:17.58Grinehow do I get ItemID for an item?
13:18.34Nargiddleyone way is /print "[Link Item]"
13:19.08Nargiddleythen look for item:1234:
13:19.15Nargiddleysomewhere in what it prints out
13:19.25kebinusanMendeleev will show it on the tooltip I think
13:19.51Nargiddleythat and the pt category rule i will improve the editing of
13:20.38Grinethanks :)
13:20.57Grinehmm flame-reflector isn't going to equipment for some reason, stupid blizzard
13:21.26kebinusanIts probably in the engineering trinkets category
13:21.55kebinusanor something similar, if not it may need to be added to PT
13:22.18NargiddleyEquipment is also done from the ItemType from GetItemInfo :/
13:22.35Nargiddleywhich should get trinkets
13:23.56CIA-1703aznamir * r22750 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua:
13:23.56CIA-17PallyPower:
13:23.56CIA-17- corrected error in PallyPower:SendSelf for first time users
13:25.38GrineThistle Tea+GNPP not in potions category either, blizz have some wierd properties set
13:26.05Nargiddleypotions is a pt set
13:26.11Grineok
13:28.20[Liquidor]Sheeping macro announcing class of the target? Anyone?
13:28.39CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22751 10Prat/Prat/ (Bindings.xml modules/CopyChat.lua modules/Keybindings.lua): Prat: Support a key binding for copychat
13:29.03sylvanaarunlikely?
13:29.49[Liquidor]Well how should it be made? with /script?
13:30.12[Liquidor]I haven't really looked into the macro changes of 2.x
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13:30.49sylvanaarwell then you should
13:30.58Funkeh`heya
13:31.01BankZHey guys, I am having a prob with bartender, I wonder if its a config problem or a bug
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13:31.46BankZIf I switch to bear it switches the bar and bindings, if I switch back it switches the bars back but not the bindings
13:32.51BankZideas?
13:32.54GrineNargiddley, does baggins do any actuall stacking in the standard bags? freerefills for example often creates double stacks, with baggins I won't see that
13:33.18Nargiddleyit doesnt move items at all
13:33.38Nargiddleyturn off compressing everything if you want to see stacks
13:34.00Nargiddleyshould only compress ammo, shards and empty space by default
13:35.13sylvanaarpurl: ping
13:35.40purlpong
13:35.50sylvanaar~slowpoke
13:36.08BankZdoes that sound like a config prob?
13:36.08BankZor a bug
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13:40.11LLoydBatesanyone got an idea how the sellvalue of an item can be calculated, or does know an addon which already does this? :\
13:41.58Mikmagod damn, sauna rocks
13:44.47mjc_mornin
13:44.48mjc_sauna?
13:45.14mjcLLoydBates: colalight
13:45.21Mikmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauna
13:45.22Mikmasauna.
13:45.43BankZAny know of a good mood that lets me move the party and unit frames?
13:46.02MikmaBankZ: agUF
13:46.39LLoydBatesmjc: colalight doesnt calculate the sellvalue, it 'only' remembers it. one has to visit a vendor ...
13:46.59LLoydBatesonly after you've done that, it shows the sellvalue
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13:47.45MikmaNargiddley: btw, megasweet updates ;9
13:47.49IndustrialDoes anyone have an old oh wait never mind
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13:47.54LLoydBatesi'm looking for smth that calculates the sellvalue on its one, that way i can choose an item at a quest which sells for the most gold (if i have no use for any item there)
13:48.18NargiddleyMikma, wait about 10 mins :D
13:48.55Mikmai have never liked the combined look of oneinventory etc so baggins is a bless :D
13:48.58BankZMikma: I tried agUF and it seemed VERY buggy
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13:49.08GrineNargiddley, would be lovely if it did restack though, I love the compress all option :)
13:49.26MikmaBankZ: wtf? buggy?
13:49.32Mikmaag`: <1548> <BankZ> Mikma: I tried agUF and it seemed VERY buggy
13:50.22Mikmaag: highlight test
13:50.52BankZyeah, buggy, had to delete it
13:51.09Mikmaare we really talking about the same addon?
13:51.11Mikmai think not
13:51.32BankZag_UnitFrames ?
13:52.08nevcairielive been using them for ever
13:52.14nevcairieland didnt encounter any serious problem
13:52.26Mikmame too since first alphabeta-release
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13:53.10BankZI had some of its plugins, maybe that was the problem
13:53.35BankZbut I couldnt see things like the mana bar
13:53.46BankZand it would freak out every now and then
13:53.49Mikmaonly bad problem i have ever had was agUF semi-crashing my game when i got poisoned, but ag was able to fix it with a new texture after i whined and nagged about 2 weeks to him :D
13:54.05MikmaBankZ: never had problems like that
13:54.21BankZand it would get lines all over it
13:54.25BankZand I had to reload
13:54.43BankZand I found he text hard to read
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13:55.46BankZU like better than sRaidFrames?
13:55.48RahvinHi, i'm seeking help ~
13:55.53Rahvinwith AG_unit frames...
13:56.03Rahvini really like them, but i'm having a problem and they don't seem to be updated anymore?
13:56.07Sarozwha
13:56.09Sarozwha wha
13:56.11Insa2:O
13:56.11Rahvinok
13:56.12Rahvinproblem is
13:56.18Rahvinwith my target frame
13:56.21Rahvini'll kill something
13:56.23Rahvinthen target the next mob
13:56.33Rahvinbut it won't update immediately, it'll still show the old mob name and "dead" in the target frame
13:56.44Rahvinit'll catch up and change the target after like 3-4 seconds thoug
13:56.47Rahvinand it only happens in PVE
13:56.55Saroznever had that problem
13:57.35Rahvinwell, i pulled the latest one from the SVN, that's probably why, but the last official one ALSO had an error in that it'd spam me with an error popup whenver I joined or got moved into a raid/group
13:57.46Rahvinwhich was no good for PVP, i'd have to click ok every single BG which was mega annoying
13:58.44Rahvinactually i'll pull the latest SVN again, the last one i had is like 9 days old
13:58.48Rahvinhopefully that fixes it
14:00.39Funkeh`did the svn accounts get lost again? i seem to be having trouble commiting
14:00.46BankZI added too many new mods last night :/
14:01.09TainMy ex used to tell me that all the time, Funkeh`
14:01.34Funkeh`lol Oo
14:01.46MikmaAKX: RAWR you have time to update Chatr but not DreamChat!
14:01.58AKXMikma :D
14:02.07AKXWell tell me, what do you want to see in DC?
14:02.23MikmaAKX: i want it to stop the freaking jumping
14:03.15AKXMeh. Then figure out what's wrong with it! :D
14:03.18MikmaAKX: and oh, automatic hide of ChatFrame1 behind toggle
14:03.32MikmaAKX: well i have figured, it's broken and you should fix it
14:03.40BankZShouldnt the mana bars be blue in a raid?
14:03.50AKXMikma, :|
14:06.27CIA-1703funkydude * r22752 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/BigWigs_CommonAuras.toc: BigWigs_CommonAuras: update toc
14:06.29MikmaAKX: check out Baggins :D
14:06.33Funkeh`nvm
14:06.35BankZAnyone use it in a raid?
14:06.39Funkeh`my url changed from dev to svn for some reason
14:07.36Mikmalatest screenshot of Baggins: http://wow.reaktio.net/baggins.jpg
14:08.20LLoydBatesnice oO'
14:08.39Funkeh`i prefer onebag, for the reason that i like it all cramped together
14:08.45LLoydBatesOT. what is it with that minibar? skinned? o_O
14:08.48Funkeh`that takes too much space
14:08.49Rahvinok sweet my stupid AG unit frames problem appears fixed
14:08.50Rahvinwewt
14:09.11MikmaFunkeh`: i hate the stuffed look of oneinventory's :O
14:09.31AKXErf
14:09.33ag`Rahvin: what was your problem?
14:09.45Funkeh`its taste really
14:10.02AKXWhat event shows the who replies in the chat frame? It doesnt seem to be CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM
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14:11.02Rahvinumm
14:11.12Rahvinmy target frame wasn't updating after i killed a monster in PVE
14:11.19Rahvini'd kill something, and it'd dispaly dead in the target frame
14:11.25Rahvinthen i'd targe tsomething else
14:11.31Rahvinbut instead of switching the target it'd still say "dead"
14:11.40Rahvinit'd eventually switch after like 3-4 seconds though
14:11.51ag`what did you do to fix it?
14:11.54Rahvinbut it was still really annoying...updating to the latest SVN appears to have fixed it, though I now get an error upon login
14:12.04Rahvinbut that's ok, clicking ok once every login doesn't bother me ~
14:12.08AKXNo, scratch that, it's CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM.
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14:12.56RahvinAGg`: You're the developer of AG unit frames?
14:12.59BankZyeah, it seems like the mana bars are always black
14:13.18BankZwith a slight tent of what ever color I pick
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14:13.44ag`Rahvin: yeah
14:13.49Rahvinawesome
14:14.03Rahvini love your unit frames =P good replacement to DUF since 2.0 broke it
14:14.23Rahvincan you answer a question for me real quick?
14:14.35Funkeh`Benumbed: ping
14:14.57neeneeRahvin: not if you do not ask it real quick :)
14:15.10MikmaWobble: FuXPFu icon is borked?
14:15.18Rahvinhehe
14:15.18ag`Rahvin: sure
14:15.19Rahvinok
14:15.21Rahvinhere goes
14:15.21DrZoothas anyone noticed a bunch of errors with the latest as of 2 days ago version of grid? something keeps trying to resize the grid frames in combat
14:15.33Rahvinis there anyway to turn off the displaying of buffs on your own player frame?
14:15.35Rahvini can't seem to find it
14:15.45ag`yes
14:15.54ag`<PROTECTED>
14:15.56Wobbleman, it really is
14:15.58MikmaNargiddley: Compress all! wtf that's sweeeeet :D
14:15.59WobbleI wonder why
14:15.59Rahvinyarr i was looking in there
14:16.07RahvinUnit frames -> Player -> couldn't see anything in there
14:16.19ag`aura style -> hidden
14:16.25GrineMikma, love it :)
14:16.29Rahvinohh
14:16.32Rahvinaura = buff basically?
14:16.48ag`well
14:16.52GrineNargiddley, shiftclicking on the stack of empty slots tries to split the stack :P
14:16.57nevcairiellol
14:16.59ag`it's easier to say aura than buff+debuff
14:17.03mjcneed a casting bar replacement since haste got pissy
14:17.15Rahvinok so it turns off debuffs too?
14:17.21ag`yes
14:17.32Rahvinjust a suggestion, but personally i'd like a way to seperate that
14:17.37Rahvinnot a huge deal though
14:17.38NargiddleyGrine, k i'll look for that
14:17.50Rahvini'm sure you have enough to do with it already =P
14:17.56ag`yes it is planned
14:18.51Grinehmm, I wonder how hard it would be to write a mod that just makes sure everything in the bags is stacked to max... unless you just destacked it yourself
14:19.24neeneemrplow?
14:19.34Grinehmm
14:19.51Grineneenee, that moves stuff around too right?
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14:20.30neeneeYou can have it stack only
14:20.30Gngskmjc, http://fuxsake.net/f18-otravi_CastingBar.html
14:20.55Grineok, does it do it utomagically or only on command?
14:21.05neeneeon command
14:21.16MikmaNargiddley: what about "Color greater rarity than:" ?
14:21.19Gngskauto magic could easily be implemented
14:22.25NargiddleyMikma, sounds good
14:22.39Nargiddleyi think i should commit what i have tho, its a big enough list hehe
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14:22.50MikmaNargiddley: well, it's a request ;)
14:22.50Mikma*then
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14:22.57GrineCOMMIT! :)
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14:24.32FtH|eagleNargiddley: Just want to let you know that the default equipment area doesn't work for german clients. Didn't test other things as of now.
14:25.02ag`this WSG i am in
14:25.11ag`our enemy is a premade
14:25.18ag`9 warlocks and one druid
14:26.31neeneeHm. I just installed Baggins and it seems the Fubar Font is set to a fixed size
14:26.41neeneeWhich means it's too big in my case and I can't change it
14:26.50neeneeThe Icon is a fixed size too
14:26.55Nargiddleyhm :/
14:27.37neeneeThe last time I had that with an addon, it was with DeuceCommander
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14:28.10CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22753 10Prat/Prat/modules/ChannelSeparator.lua: Prat: finally fixed this module, dont think it ever worked
14:28.26CIA-1703gagorian * r22754 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua):
14:28.26CIA-17DrDamage:
14:28.26CIA-17-Fixed mage coefficients. Fixed GetSpellCritChanceFromIntellect to correct API in TBC Beta.
14:28.53Nargiddleyincoming cia spam
14:29.17CIA-1703nargiddley * r22755 10Baggins/Baggins.lua:
14:29.17CIA-17Baggins:
14:29.17CIA-17- Added bank support, make new bags set them to bank in their options
14:29.17CIA-17- Bag frames can be locked in place
14:29.17CIA-17- Fubar plugin now shows used/total slots and clicking opens all bags
14:29.18CIA-17- Bags and sections can be moved, shift/alt click to move up/down
14:29.20CIA-17- Empty stacks will no longer try to split when shift clicked
14:29.46hanzzonwhat's different with Baggins vs OneBag?
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14:30.52Mikmabiiig update
14:30.59neeneeCan Baggins be scaled?
14:31.23Nargiddleyi can add it
14:31.34CIA-1703kagaro * r22756 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: refactored the general note determinination code
14:32.09neeneeHm. Could the bags be made to 'bump' into eachother like they do with screen borders? I noticed there is some magnetism, but it's quite weak
14:32.21MikmaWobble: yohoo?
14:32.31MikmaWobble: FuXPFu icon is missing
14:32.45Wobbleyeah, just checking into it
14:33.39neeneeHm. And can Baggins be locked?
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14:34.17Nargiddleynew version just added that
14:34.20kagarock: you got updates for the instance notes after changign the maps?
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14:35.43BankZok, this is driving me bugs
14:35.57BankZIm using raid frames
14:36.07BankZagUF
14:36.23BankZand the mana bars in a raid are a different color
14:37.13BankZits like their alpha is real low
14:37.48ag`the obvious problem is that you run some other addons that interferes
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14:38.52neeneeok.getting the new version asap
14:39.05BankZag: I guess I wrote it?
14:39.17BankZcan I send u a screenshot?
14:39.22Kaelten-Laptopbuga buga
14:39.40ag`just disable all your addons
14:40.12BankZcant ATM, in BG queue
14:40.37sylvanaar~bugz
14:40.45purli guess bugz is "Does this happen on the lastest version? What version are you using?"
14:40.52BankZanother thing, it lets you select "show portraid" for raid, if you do this bad things happen :/
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14:41.39GrineTekkub! I was gonig to ask you something...
14:41.57Tekkubthanks for letting me know
14:42.13BankZag`: is there a way to set the alpha level on the mana bar?
14:42.26ag`No
14:42.29Rahvinhey ag`
14:42.36ag`I think you use addons that interferes, so... check back with what happens when you disable everything
14:42.37Rahvinthat bug i was talking about earlier is actually back =/
14:42.44Rahvintook a while before i saw it though....maybe it's better
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14:43.22Grineoh right Tekkub, squeenix, will you be adding Mail/BGframe moving to it or should I add that to some other mod :P
14:43.35Tekkub*shrug*
14:43.44Tekkubwhen I get to it
14:43.46Rahvinhrm i don't think so ag`, i'm only using a few right now =/
14:43.55BankZag`: ok, I figued out how to recreate the problem
14:43.57yacoob'Twas the night before Winter Veil...
14:43.59RahvinBongo bars, AG unit frames, la vendetta
14:44.06Rahvinand outfitter
14:44.07Rahvinthat's it
14:44.21Rahvinoh wait and DoTimer, warlock mod, don't see how that would interfere either though, none of them do anything to unit frames
14:44.47Rahvinlogging to disable em all though and see if i can still get it to happen
14:44.52Grineno hurry Tekkub
14:44.55Rahvinmaybe it's the area i'm in
14:45.07venI always have to reloadui, when I enable a mana bar that was hidden before to get it to show on aguf
14:45.13Fisker-SCHNELL SCHNELL
14:45.23BankZag`: its a bug, if I switch the layout to perfect raid and the back, it messes up
14:45.56ag`so do /rl and it is fixed
14:46.06BankZdoing that now
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14:46.38BankZyeah, that fixed it
14:46.45BankZwell "fixed" it :/
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14:50.06BankZis there anyway to have rage rather than 0% mana for classes like warrs?
14:50.16Rahvinhaven't gotten it to happen again yet ag`, i guess maybe it was an addon =/
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14:50.22Rahvinwill go for a bit longer
14:52.54BankZusing agUF, is there anyway to have rage rather than 0% mana for classes like warrs?
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14:57.16Rahvinhrm
14:57.23Rahvinstill not happening ag` =/ i'll try to narrow down which mod it is
14:57.45Rahvingonna get off mirc...i'll try to report any bugs i can reproduce here =P
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15:05.56GrineNargiddley, you still around?
15:06.13Nargiddleyyeah
15:07.26CIA-1703eternally777 * r22757 10SacredBuff/ (Locales/frFR.lua SacredBuff.lua UI.lua):
15:07.26CIA-17SacredBuff:
15:07.26CIA-17* A few small French localization fixes (so they tell me)
15:07.26CIA-17* Buttons will now turn blue when there's not enough mana to cast that spell, red when it's out of range, and grey when it's on cooldown
15:07.26CIA-17* Tooltips now work properly again.
15:08.09GrinePets, how do I make a category for them? (Have 30+ in bank)
15:09.29Nargiddleyi dont think theres a way to get just pets right now
15:10.04Mikmaanyone checked the new sexy round.tga in agUF i made yesterday?
15:10.47ZodiSteel <3
15:11.05Zodiwouldn't ever use anything else
15:11.12Zodibut I'll try your round ;)
15:11.54GrineNargiddley, okay
15:12.10Grinewould be nice, my other section is kinda unwieldy :P
15:12.24Fisker-steel looks ugly
15:12.26MikmaZodi: well it's basicly "Blizzard / Classic" but it's rounded
15:12.28Fisker-and so does round Mikma
15:12.28Fisker-omg
15:12.41Nargiddleyi'll look at adding a tooltip rule
15:13.02ZodiMikma: sounds nice actually :) I mainly use Steel coz it's rounded
15:13.04Nargiddleyto scan for a string in the tooltip, "summon and dismiss" should get pets i think
15:14.41WobbleMan
15:14.46WobbleI have no idea why the icon is gone
15:15.05MikmaZodi: that's why i made it :) I too like rounded bars but Steel was fugly
15:15.24Fisker-i told you steel was fugly
15:15.33Fisker-not as much as rounded though hahaha
15:15.48Mikmathat's ok, i am not a fister
15:16.51Gngskzomg dewd
15:16.55Grineumm, The ZG Idols should be in PTs ZG Quest category
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15:20.46Grinehmm, is there a special category for BankEmpty?
15:21.07Nargiddleyempty will work, fixed on my end atm
15:21.35CIA-1703wobin * r22758 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:
15:21.35CIA-17FuBar_FuXPFu:
15:21.35CIA-17- yay icon back
15:21.49Mikmayes, yay!
15:22.00Grinegreat Nargiddley
15:22.11Grinealso, tradeskill mats for it's own cat?
15:22.47Nargiddleyi'll get around to adding more default categories sometime
15:23.01axxoso demanding aren't they Nargiddley :)
15:24.54GagorianCan I use tortoise to edit the properties directly?
15:25.36Grine<3 Nargiddley I'll stop spamming yo
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15:26.41Nargiddleyyou can make a tradeskill mats easy enough anyway :P
15:27.02Nargiddley"Tradeskill Mats" i think is the pt set that will get it
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15:28.34Grineokay , I'm no good with PT :)
15:28.47neeneeHow do I set the columns for bags other than the equipment bag with Baggins>
15:29.09neeneeOh never mind
15:29.24neeneeIt's due to the amount types of consumables I have that it does not change.
15:30.24Nargiddleyif you uncheck Shrink Width they'll all stay full width
15:31.24neeneeAh, but that's ugly to me. Thanks though :)
15:31.55Nargiddleyyeah i prefer them shrinking to fit, but some people wanted it :D
15:31.59neenee:)
15:32.07BankZwhich range addon would you suggest for agUF?
15:33.10kenlyricdoesn't aguf have it's own range checking built in?
15:34.25ag`nope
15:34.36kenlyrichmmm.. I wonder what is doing range checking for me :)
15:34.53CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r22759 10DKPmon/DKPmon/ (7 files in 7 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 First go at adding a log viewer frame. Still a little buggy.
15:34.53CIA-1703sylvanaar * r22760 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
15:34.53CIA-17GloryLib: Loaded current server info. Derived from: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/battlegroups/realmNames.js
15:34.53CIA-17Added Functions:
15:34.54CIA-17GetServerType(servName), GetBattlegroupName(servName), GetBattlegroupNum(servName)
15:35.16kenlyricone of these days, my brain will learn the difference between a UF mod and a bar mod :)
15:35.44GagorianWhy doesn't tortoise let me update my properties? Says mine are out of date even if they aren't :l
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15:36.55sylvanaarso, any volunteers to run the development version of Prat? so that it gets fully tested
15:36.57BankZI think I like sRaidFrames better for raids than ugUF
15:37.02BankZeasier to read
15:37.13zoktarhmm is there anyway to get cartographer to show names on towers graveyards etc in bg ?
15:37.18BankZso I may run both
15:37.35Trooxhmmm... i really like PerlPartyTarget... is it possible to add such a thing to agfu, ag? =)
15:37.37BankZthe font in agUF is too hard to read
15:37.50BankZand to make it readable it takes up too much space
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15:38.43ag`Devla have been using some other font but I don't know where to contact him
15:38.56ag`but anyway you can change the font in the theme file, it's pretty fucking easy
15:39.28CIA-1703gagorian * r22761 10DrDamage/ (. DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc libs/):
15:39.28CIA-17DrDamage:
15:39.29CIA-17-Coefficients are now displayed more precisely in the tooltips (3 decimals). Added AceLocale-2.2
15:39.56BankZsecond thought, I think I am gonna dump agUF
15:39.57CIA-1703funkydude * r22762 10MusicStream/modules/ (ChannelImport.lua Channels.lua SkipChannel.lua): MusicStream: re-added pulsradio, high voltage. added dance genre
15:39.59BankZits way too buggy
15:40.14BankZeverything I try it messes up
15:40.15alcarashow so?
15:40.26alcarasi've been using it for months on 2.0 w/o bugs
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15:40.29alcaraswhat are you experiencing?
15:41.00Kaelten-LaptopI've not had any problems with it either
15:41.03ag`a lot of people are using it without problems *shrug*
15:41.13Zodiaye agUF pwns
15:41.39BankZwell, just odd things, like units are different sizes
15:41.52BankZand different layouts
15:42.00BankZhard to read
15:42.04alcarashave you configured it?
15:42.08alcaraswhat ui scale are you running at?
15:42.16alcarashave you scaled aguf and set the same layout for all frames that you want?
15:42.18BankZ100%
15:42.39BankZthe way it shows buffs is kinda messed up
15:42.50sylvanaarmaybe sum it up in a forum post
15:42.51Kaelten-LaptopIts like people saying onebag is too bugy, I've been using it and don't have any problems
15:42.52alcarasto move where it shows buff, change the position of auras
15:43.47MikmaNargiddley: planning on making the glow -rarity check? :)
15:43.58BankZi want it next to their names
15:44.11BankZits just not good for raids
15:44.19alcarasget grid for raids
15:44.27alcaraswhat do you mean, next to their names
15:44.34alcarasyou can position buffs wherever you want
15:44.40alcarastry position aura left
15:44.46alcarasthat should be right to the left of their names
15:44.59BankZI did, and it does it next to the frame
15:45.13Kaelten-LaptopBankZ: those don't really sound like bugs though more of options or cosmetics
15:45.14Zodiyou want it inside the frame on top of the hp bar? :o
15:45.15alcaraswhich is next to their names, no ?
15:45.17BankZso if you got frames next to each other, its on top of the otehr freame
15:45.19NargiddleyMikma, done
15:45.24Nargiddleyabout to commit
15:45.34alcaraswell don't put the frames next to each other that way
15:45.41alcarasor space the frames using the spacing options
15:45.45ZodiBankZ: put spacing between the frames
15:45.50alcarasor put the auras somewhere the frames don't overlap
15:45.53alcarasthese aren't bugs
15:45.59alcarasthey're configuration options :)
15:46.09BankZzodi: its already taking up too much space :/
15:46.10alcarasif you don't like any of the included layouts, you can always write your own custom layout as i did :p
15:46.15alcarasyou can resize it!
15:46.17Zodiscale it down ;)
15:46.20alcarasit's 100% customizable
15:46.24sylvanaaris there a version of /dump that is more terse or that can control the output order
15:46.26Zodiand get another font ;)
15:46.34Zodilike ClearFont or something - rly readable
15:46.37ag`though you can't force auras to be placed on the frame
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15:46.42ag`yet
15:46.42BankZcant scale it cuz its too hard to read the font
15:46.55Zodiuse a font replaceing mod ;)
15:47.19alcarasmy custom aguf layout in action in karazhan last night: http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1462/wowscrnshot123006003408ae4.jpg
15:47.35Kirkburn"cant scale it cuz its too hard to read the font" <-- eh?
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15:48.21Zodiomg alcaras! you have no sense of symetry!! :P
15:48.29Kaelten-Laptoplol kirk's the man to talk to about fonts
15:48.40alcarasi don't want symmetry :p
15:48.43KirkburnZodi, lol, I agree ;)
15:48.48[H]MordokaiI need some serious help , anyone who is good at addons/ui  please assist me with some guidance
15:48.50Zodiargh... I can't watch any longer :O
15:48.56Zodihehe Kirkburn :)
15:48.58GagorianZodi: I agree :D
15:49.03KirkburnIf it works for you, it works =)
15:49.07CIA-1703nargiddley * r22763 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua):
15:49.07CIA-17Baggins:
15:49.07CIA-17- Fix empty and soulbound rules for bank slots
15:49.07CIA-17- Added threshold for quality coloring
15:49.08CIA-17- Begin moving strings into localization
15:49.20alcaraszodi: i find my layout works best for letting me monitor what's going on
15:49.23Zodimust be nice and linier ordered with similar amounts of straight boxes on each side :D
15:49.27alcaras[H]Mordokai: Ask and we shall answer
15:49.38Zodi<-- healer only need to watch ppls health :P
15:49.51KirkburnKaelten-Laptop, I love getting pinged and suddenly appearing ;)
15:49.57alcarasZodi: ah, i'm a warrior and often lead groups so i need to watch a lot of things
15:49.58Kaelten-Laptoplol
15:50.07Zodiaye I saw that :)
15:50.20[H]MordokaiWell i have full Ace2 addon pack from a friend who single downloaded each and they work fine for him  but for me when i login to my character my Screen Freezes (no signal) and i have to reboot my PC manually
15:50.20alcarasi just like the unitframes a lot
15:50.20Eternally777[H]Mordokai: unless of course it's a silly question, in which case we just usually just ignore it.
15:50.42alcaras[H]Mordokai: did you get his wtf files as well?
15:50.46Zodia bit to simple for me :)
15:50.47[H]Mordokaialcaras No
15:50.49alcaras[H]Mordokai: and are you on the same version of wow?
15:50.58alcaras[H]Mordokai: and have you tried disabling everything to see if you can log in?
15:51.06alcaras[H]Mordokai: and if that works, then try renabling one by one
15:51.07Kirkburnsylvanaar, how goes Prat2? :P
15:51.19alcaras[H]Mordokai: but first use WoWAceUpdater to get the latest versions of all the ace addons you have
15:51.22[H]Mordokaialcaras Do i need his WTF folder aswell?
15:51.32Zodisylvanaar: you were looking for willing subjects for testing? :)
15:51.33alcarasif you want his configuration so you don't have to set up the addons, yes
15:51.37Goebalcaras- what damage log thing do you use (bottom right frames?)
15:51.42alcarasGoeb: eavesdrop
15:51.44Kaelten-LaptopI'm going to be going afk for a few hours in a while to finish packing and then go to flordia
15:51.50alcaras[H]Mordokai: do you use elkbuffbar?
15:51.58alcaras[H]Mordokai: an old version of elkbuffbar was crashing on load
15:51.58Goebhm, gonna have to check that one out thanks
15:52.16alcaras[H]Mordokai: get wowaceupdater and run it to update all your ace mods and try again (easiest step)
15:53.04[H]Mordokaialcaras where do i get Wowaceupdater
15:53.17alcarasfirst hit on google for "wowaceupdater"
15:53.56alcarasgrid question: at what % mana does the 'low mana warning' trigger?
15:54.07Goebkirk- speaking of version 2's... is clearfont2 ready for prime time? :)
15:54.18KirkburnI think si
15:54.19Goebalc- you can set the threshold
15:54.21Kirkburn*so
15:54.29KirkburnI haven't had much time to test it lately, however
15:54.31alcarasah, where goeb (grid noob)
15:54.53Goebstatus part of the menu
15:55.08alcarasthanks, i'll check it out
15:55.16alcarasi need to just sit down and spend 30m looking through grid menus
15:55.19alcarasto learn them
15:55.21Goeblemme log in...
15:55.28alcarascouldn't do that last night b/c i installed grid midway through karazhan :p
15:55.35GoebI can't remember what the menu looks like...  
15:57.23alcarasStatus | Low Mana Warning | Mana Threshold
15:57.47alcarasnot sure what 'priority' means
15:57.54Zodiis there any "good" alternatives to SW Stats as dmg/healing meter?
15:58.05ZodiI think it takes up way too much mem
15:58.11alcarasZodi: damage meters is the only alternative that i know of
15:58.15Zodidamn
15:58.20alcarasZodi: the nature of the beast, i think, would make it somewhat memory intensive
15:58.21Zodithat blows :(
15:58.53Zodiaye
15:59.17ZodiI'd just like it to have some sort of "self cleaning mechanism"... it's anoying to write /sws nuke all the time
15:59.19CIA-1703nargiddley * r22764 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Stop Empty from matching empty keyring slots
15:59.23KarlThePaganmemory and possibly network intensive
15:59.24Zodior force a garbage collection...
15:59.37KarlThePaganand parsing is cpu intensive... even ParserLib needs work
15:59.39yacoob"force garbage collection" sounds so wrong
15:59.44yacooblike forcing vomits, or something... :)
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16:04.31sylvanaarZodi: yes
16:04.47sylvanaarKirkburn: coming along quite nicely actually
16:04.50CIA-1703gamefaq * r22765 10Prat/modules/ (25 files):
16:04.50CIA-17Prat:
16:04.50CIA-17- Updated deDE Translation
16:04.50CIA-17- Changed deDE ASCII Codes to Umlauts since we use UTF-8 now
16:04.59Zodihook me up :) what do I do?
16:05.26sylvanaarget http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Prat
16:05.27Zodisylvanaar: can it adopt my current Prat settings?
16:05.48Zodihmm don't have password for that :/
16:05.52sylvanaarZodi: you may want to back up your old settings
16:05.57Zodiaye ofc ;)
16:06.00sylvanaarget http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Prat
16:06.36MikmaNargiddley: nice updates :D
16:06.56sylvanaarZodi: SW Stats doesnt take up too much memory, and you can use SWStats2Fu to have it automatically nuke when you log out
16:07.08Zodiohh nice
16:07.10NargiddleyMikma, think i'm done for the night hehe
16:07.23Mikmanight :D well it's 6pm here hehe
16:07.42Nargiddleybe around a bit longer but no new features
16:07.47MikmaNargiddley: well, you have implemented everything i have asked so far. i find that pretty awesome
16:08.01Nargiddleynot everything :P
16:08.07Mikmawell, what not? :D
16:08.14Nargiddleymoneh
16:08.14Mikmaoh hey 1 thing
16:08.27Mikmathe bag-status on text doesn't show empty slots on soulbag
16:08.43Mikmasoul/ammo
16:08.47Kaelten-Laptopsvn's security polcies on hooks agrivate me
16:08.49GrineMoneyFu ftw!
16:09.09NargiddleyMikma, the fubar text ?
16:09.14MikmaNargiddley: eyap :)
16:09.24Nargiddleyit purposely excludes soul and ammo bags
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16:09.33Nargiddleyi'll add options to that sometime
16:09.33sylvanaarKaelten-Laptop: you gonna commit acedebug before your vacation?
16:09.39MikmaNargiddley: thanks :)
16:09.47Kaelten-Laptopsylvanaar: I never got the email :(
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16:11.35sylvanaarKaelten-Laptop: sent again plz ack
16:11.48Smeltn<PROTECTED>
16:12.07MikmaDoes spirit affect health-generation also?
16:12.16sylvanaarMikma: out of combat
16:12.25Mikmasylvanaar: thank you
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16:12.59Hipkorkafternoon
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16:14.13sylvanaari kinda like iriels little chat event clickable link
16:14.29Mikmahttp://kuvat2.iltasanomat.fi/iltasanomat/iGallup/26130-saddamruumispussissa2450.jpg ("saddaminabodybag2450.jpg")
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16:14.41HipkorkI have added fubar/dewdrop functionality to CharaterInfo and CharacterInfoStorage, anyone I could send it to ?
16:14.44Eggiis it ok that the memory usage goes up from ~35 mb to 50 mb after an hour... if i start a garbage collection it goes down to ~35 again
16:16.03BankZfor agUF whats the custom text to show how much health they are down?
16:16.09MikmaNargiddley: i got something for you that you should have a look :) XLoot has perfect quality-threshold in it which i think you can use in Baggins also
16:16.24BarbanusDoes sRaidFrames automatically go on standby when you aren't in a raid, like oRA does?
16:16.40BankZyeah
16:17.32sylvanaarEggi: dont obsess over it
16:17.43NargiddleyMikma, dont think i could use that straight off since it'll be an aceoptions table
16:17.48GrineNargiddley, is it possible to make the standard bankframe not show up at banker?
16:17.59CIA-1703kaelten * r22766 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: Ace2 - Applied Sylvanaar's patch.
16:18.11NargiddleyGrine, not sure but I havent looked into it at all
16:18.21sylvanaar<3
16:18.26MikmaNargiddley: http://wow.reaktio.net/threshold.jpg
16:18.33MikmaNargiddley: well, have a look :)
16:18.34Nargiddleyyeah i have xloot :D
16:18.48Eggiaceevent eats even more memory then rdx o0
16:18.58MikmaNargiddley: you can use the same thing too, RadioButtons and all :)
16:19.03Nargiddleyi was planning something like that, then 5am laziness kicked in and went for the easy ugly but functional one :D
16:19.41MikmaNargiddley: hehe :) well i'm really happy about the functional one too :)
16:19.41GarnsBankZ I think your looking for [misiinghp] unless you mean an enemy
16:19.50MikmaNargiddley: look at the screenshot and you'll see what i mean :)
16:19.50Garns[missinghp]*
16:20.13NargiddleyMikma, i have xloot and already looked at the menu :P
16:20.21MikmaNargiddley: i mean the inventory! :)
16:20.44Mikmaand don't be alarmed, i reseted all settings couple of updates ago
16:20.50Mikmaso my engineering bag is missing atm hehe
16:21.09sylvanaarZodi: any progress on your installation?
16:21.11NargiddleyMikma, ahh diddnt read everything heh
16:21.17Zodiaye just downloaded libs :)
16:21.24Zodipowering up now
16:21.31MikmaNargiddley: LOOK AT MEH SEXY INV!
16:22.05kenlyricI try to hover my mouse over items, but it doesn't work.
16:22.41Nargiddleykenlyric, bank items in baggins ?
16:22.46kenlyricno, the screenshot :)
16:22.50Nargiddleyahhh
16:22.51Nargiddleyhehe
16:23.30Mikma:D
16:25.36alcarasthis is sad
16:25.43alcarasa green from netherstorm quest is better than epic from karazhan
16:26.00kenlyricthat seems wrong.
16:26.04kenlyriclinky!
16:26.13Grinealcaras, link or it didn't happen
16:26.21alcarashttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28502
16:26.40alcarasvs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30225
16:27.27alcaraseven if i put a 12 sta gem (currently for the obscene price of 500g) into it...
16:27.39Zodisylvanaar: I get the menu on Fubar and I can change the options without getting bugs... but nothing seems to happen to my chatwindows
16:27.55Zodisylvanaar: my chat edit box is moved tho
16:28.07Zodito top of the frame as it always iw
16:28.08Zodiis
16:28.26ZodiI'll try to remove the old Prat.lua in savedvariables
16:28.31Zodiand see if it helps
16:28.46vid`r22732 | ckknight | 2006-12-30 08:56:11 -0500 (Sat, 30 Dec 2006) | 2 lines
16:28.46vid`FuBar - added option to hide tooltips in combat.
16:28.47vid`Slightly rearranged menu.
16:28.47vid`YESS
16:28.55vid`ck have my babies
16:28.56Zodisylvanaar; stickychannel seems to work as well
16:28.58vid`!!
16:30.17SmeltnOMG Nevcairiel thank you so much for adding the petbar cycircled
16:30.43CIA-1703sylvanaar * r22767 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
16:30.43CIA-17GloryLib: Added support for using local server as a default parameter to:
16:30.43CIA-17GetServerType(servName), GetBattlegroupName(servName), GetBattlegroupNum(servName)
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16:31.50Finhello
16:32.26sylvanaarZodi: turn on Debug and Select Do actual replacement
16:32.30alcarashey i can't find a gem that beats this item :(
16:32.36alcarasthat makes this itemb etter than the green
16:32.51alcarass/hey/yeah/
16:32.52sylvanaarZodi: the fubar should have a red and blue indicator
16:33.19Zodisylvanaar: yeah I see that now
16:33.26Zodiit worked
16:34.16Zodisylvanaar: the menu for ChannelSticky doesn't update the settings - though the changes are in fact being made
16:34.28sylvanaarZodi: please use it normally, and let me know if you have issues - notably, compatibilty with other chat mods
16:34.34sylvanaareh?
16:34.51alcarasoh well, it made two void crystals
16:35.12sylvanaaroh you are right thank you
16:35.27Zodi:)
16:35.47Zodisylvanaar: you want me to turn off Debugging again?
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16:37.26CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22768 10Prat/Prat/modules/ChannelSticky.lua: Prat: copy/paste error in the get handler for ChannelSticky channels
16:37.46Zodiupdating
16:37.50yacoobhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Darkness:_Sanity%27s_Requiem#Sanity_effects
16:37.52yacoob...brilliant stuff.
16:39.00CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r22769 10DKPmon/DKPmon/ (5 files in 3 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 -- Fixed up log viewing window. Removed .adj field from the points database.
16:39.07sylvanaarZodi: turning off debugging will disable the chat replacement part of prat, keep it on
16:39.17Zodisylvanaar: is http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Prat/modules/ updated yet?
16:39.27sylvanaaryeah
16:39.32Zodiok
16:41.11Zodihmm prolly not updated on the svn...
16:41.19Zodididn't work at least
16:41.23CIA-1703funkydude * r22770 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: re-arrange Zul'Gurub
16:41.58sylvanaarZodi: see CIA-17 a few lines up
16:42.11Zodiahh ok :)
16:42.55Funkeh`later
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16:44.20sylvanaarZodi: you get it?
16:44.35Zodisylvanaar: nothing happens when I click on the options in ChannelSTicky -> ChatTytpe, except when I click SaySticky
16:44.44Zodisylvanaar: then it disables all
16:44.49Zodior enables ofc
16:45.23sylvanaarare you using an svn client?
16:45.46Zodiinternet explorer T_T
16:45.49Zodiso no
16:46.30sylvanaardelete your local copy first maybe
16:47.12sylvanaarand make sure you dont have the stickychannel.lua module still
16:47.21ZodiI delted the old addon
16:47.28CIA-1703funkydude * r22771 10BigWigs/MC/Lucifron.lua: BigWigs: MC/Lucifron: fix mc error
16:47.52sylvanaarprobably getting the file from your cache instead of downloading it
16:48.05Zodiaye
16:48.16Zodiflushing the IE cache now
16:50.19sylvanaarhttp://tortoisesvn.net/
16:50.29Zodiaye I willt ry that :)
16:53.46snurrehm, when's ebb2 gonna be usable btw?
16:55.06Zodisylvanaar: <3 this is a much faster and better way to do it ;)
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16:57.56Zodisylvanaar: it works :)
16:58.30kenlyricsnurre: I use ebb right now.
16:59.06mjcsvk is better :)
16:59.17mjclocal revision control ftw
16:59.33mjcparticularly with a hook in emacs to commit every save :p
16:59.51snurrekenlyric: im using ebb too, just wondering when the next version was coming ;)
17:00.31kenlyricoh, I thought that was the next version.
17:00.51Zodihow can you use the next version? :P
17:01.16InsaIs there any addon that casts a spell on your bar to the focus target when you hold shift? without using a macro for each button
17:01.18snurredunno, thought the ElkBuffBars on svn was the upcoming one while the ElkBuffBar was the old
17:02.17SmeltnQuestion : is  there an autoturnin mod that works now, also i would like a auto except group invites mod
17:02.27mjcautomaton
17:02.33mjcs/except/accept/
17:03.23mjcsomeone earlier said "fast paste hk"
17:03.30mjcretard needs to learn about diminishing returns
17:05.49Zodisylvanaar: *ChannelNames* -> is it intended that when I click "Off" after having turned toggled "Replace" off it turns "Replace" back on?
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17:07.25Zodigot an error now in the bugsack conserning that
17:08.05CIA-1703sairen * r22772 10cyCircled/ (3 files in 2 dirs): cyCircled: Added SerenityGlossy (nice, thx probe)
17:10.17Zodisylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/4176
17:10.34Zodithe errors
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17:11.38AmadeoAnyone use a Sprint PCS these days?
17:11.42Amadeoer, -a
17:11.51Zodisylvanaar: it happens when I have removed the text for a channel, toggled Replace off and Clicked Off - and then tries to write in the channel
17:12.56mjcAmadeo: ew
17:13.07mjcCDMA = crap
17:13.17CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22773 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua PratFu.lua): Prat: Remove the requirement to have debug mode on.
17:14.41Fisker-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Assman <-awesome
17:15.19mjchahaha
17:15.34Amadeomjc: Why? I've never heard that before, only the opposite
17:15.41AmadeoThough I know Sprint isn't the best
17:15.49AmadeoMost people say Verizon is for call quality
17:15.52mjcAmadeo: CDMA is not packetized
17:16.11mjcX number of users, when X is reached, random users calls are dropped
17:16.23mjcGSM is packetized, so it's just a packets per second limit
17:16.38sylvanaarZodi: yes i think thats intended
17:16.39mjcnot to mention GSM is faster
17:16.52Amadeobut lower call quality unless you have max bars
17:17.02mjcno!
17:17.02Zodisylvanaar: ok the Off button is to switch off the chat channel entirely?
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17:17.30mjcAmadeo: signal "bars" are determined the same way 802.11 strenght is
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17:17.38mjc*how close are you to the antenna?*
17:17.40mjcnothing else
17:17.42kenlyricvoodoo?
17:17.45AmadeoI've never had a GSM phone, but people have always said that call quality degrades faster on GSM depending on your signal...where CDMA is always the same whether you have low or max signal
17:18.10mjcAmadeo: GSM quality degrades as capacity is exceeded
17:18.16sylvanaarZodi: its to remove the prefix [Guild] -> ""
17:18.22Finoh, huh, I was just reading something in the Village Pump about that (something to do with tooltips)
17:18.25Finer, oops
17:18.31Finwrong channel? sorry!
17:18.36Amadeomjc: So quality degrades in order to have more people able to make calls?
17:18.38Zodisylvanaar: atm it removes the channel entirely and give bugs when you try to write in it
17:18.39mjcAmadeo: but CDMA just drops calls all the time when capacity is exceeded, which is worse
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17:19.13mjcAmadeo: you are basically guaranteed to be able to make a call and communicate on GSM if you are within normal operating range of the tower ( which is actually *further out* than CDMA)
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17:19.26AmadeoI see
17:19.33mjcghosting and such is a problem on both networks
17:19.39AmadeoBut do CDMA providers have other technologies to stop the dropped calls?
17:19.51mjcthere is nothing that can be done about dropped calls
17:19.55mjcit's just how the technology works
17:20.15mjccode division multiple access.  each person gets a "slot" and you only have X number of slots
17:20.24sylvanaarZodi: i think you are right its a bug
17:20.24mjcthey can intelligently pick what to drop, but that's about it
17:20.44Zodisylvanaar: I posted the bug for you earlier
17:20.49Amadeomjc: But this also says that calls can be overlaid on top of one another across the frequency range
17:20.55Zodisylvanaar: I'll keep digging
17:21.15mjcAmadeo: exactly, it's an "analog"-style method of signal sharing
17:21.18sylvanaarZodi: fix pending
17:21.35mjcAmadeo: that's the propaganda way to say exactly what I have been saying
17:22.08kenlyrichttp://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/151
17:22.15mjcAmadeo: imagine if you could only connect to two servers at any one moment on the internet
17:22.21mjcAmadeo: that's basically CDMA at work
17:22.29mjcAmadeo: you have to disconnect from one to connect to a new one
17:22.40AmadeoI see, I'm just trying to figure out why people who have GSM phones generally don't get very good call quality around here
17:22.51Zodisylvanaar: gotta run for some hours :/ will test when I get back
17:22.52mjcprobably that the tower is way way farther away
17:22.59Grinewhere can I find a list of PTSets?
17:23.02AmadeoWell this was years ago, maybe it's changed by now
17:23.02mjceither that or their phones all have dead batteries so they operate in low power mode
17:23.24AmadeoSo who is the best GSM provider now? T-Mobile?
17:23.24mjcGSM phones can reduce signal strength to conserve battery
17:23.28CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22774 10Prat/Prat/modules/ChannelNames.lua: Prat: the channel replacement flag was being left on, and replace was setting the replacement string to a boolean
17:23.46mjcAmadeo: whatever has a plan that suits yoiur needs
17:23.51sylvanaarZodi: thanks for your help
17:23.57mjcAmadeo: they always use the closest tower no matter who owns it
17:24.02mjcsame way CDMA works
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17:24.12mjchey MP
17:24.39Amadeomjc: That's a tough one...Sprint has an employee referral plan that gets you 1250 anytime, unlimited 7PM+ nights/weekends, Power Vision and the other standards for $50/mo
17:24.49Amadeowhich is open to anyone
17:24.55KaeltenAwayI'll be back on tonight
17:24.57mjcAmadeo: wtf is power vision
17:25.01AmadeoEVDO
17:25.45mjcAmadeo: just mention it to the rep you speak to
17:25.59mjcalso bring your own unlocked gsm phone, don't buy one..
17:25.59Amadeoof another provider?
17:26.27mjcyeah... they say something like "1000 anytime blah blah blah for $65" so you say "well I can get blah blah blah for $50"
17:26.31mjcand they'll usually try to beat it
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17:26.33Amadeoyeah
17:26.47AmadeoI don't really like Sprint, to be honest, it's just a good deal...so maybe I'll look around and try that
17:27.16mjcmy 2k minute plan with cingular w/ unlimited text messages  (for nagios) , 7pm night/weekends, and rolloveris $25
17:27.27Amadeohow'd you manage that?
17:27.35mjctook me about three hours of being an irate, asshole customer
17:27.41mjcand I already had a phone
17:27.45Amadeohaha
17:28.07AmadeoHow do you like Cingular?
17:28.29mjcnever had problems
17:28.55mjct-mobile has some interesting plans I've looked at but for $25 (like $40 after regulatory shit) I don't think so
17:29.03AmadeoWhy'd you say to bring your own unlocked phone?
17:29.04mjcand it's not worth doing that again, really
17:29.17mjccause they charge you like six times what the phone's worth in your contract
17:29.35mjcand you get better monthly plans with your own phone anyways
17:29.42mjcplus you can just tell them to go fuck themselves
17:29.54mjc'well I'll take my phone and my bill and go elsewhere'
17:29.55Amadeois that what binds you to the contracts?
17:30.04mjcno, the price does
17:30.13AmadeoI mean, of the phone?
17:30.24mjcno, monthly cost is discounted based on how long your contract is
17:30.31Amadeoah ok
17:30.44mjcbut it goes down considerably when you don't have to pay them for a phone
17:31.13AmadeoSo where do you get phones for good prices?
17:31.24mjctigerdirect has some, ebay is a better place if you get lucky
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17:31.42AmadeoThanks man, I'll check em out
17:31.45mjcI have a razr v3i, but I don't relaly like it
17:31.52mjcread reviews to pick a phone you like
17:32.00AmadeoYeah, I'm pretty picky
17:32.12AmadeoSometimes call quality varies by phone too
17:32.12mjchttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2705972&Sku=M151-2160 is the one I have
17:32.29mjccall quality varies by signal output and by battery life
17:32.43mjcCDMA phones just drop calls more often at lower battery
17:33.30AmadeoA friend of mine had a T-Mobile phone a long time ago..they may not have been GSM at the time, but I remember them trying to make a call at a sporting event and kept getting, "All circuits are busy"
17:33.42mjctmobile has been gsm for a long time
17:33.51mjcbut that sounds like a local landline issue
17:33.56Elkanoanyone of you speaking chinese?
17:34.10AmadeoWhat was T-Mobile before GSM?
17:34.15mjcnonexistant
17:34.20mjcGSM has been around for almost 20yrs.
17:34.26AmadeoTDMA = GSM?
17:34.30mjcno
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17:34.39AmadeoI thought that's what they used to be
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17:34.55mjcCDMA is the revision of TDMA
17:35.05snurre-omg, cycircled petbar! <3 <3 <3
17:35.06mjct-mobile is a german company
17:35.21mjceurope has had GSM for a ridiculously long time
17:35.23mjc1990ish
17:35.36Amadeoyeah, I've always heard that GSM is the way to go if you travel and stuff
17:35.55mjcread up on it on wikipedia
17:36.01mjcCDMA makes some really dumb decisions
17:36.08nevcairieli dont remember having anything else then GSM
17:36.11nevcairielbeing a european :D
17:36.21mjcthat's what I'm saying nev
17:36.34nevcairieli know
17:36.35nevcairiel:)
17:36.52mjct-mobile probably bought out a TDMA-based provider in the US when they moved here
17:38.13sylvanaarany photoshop'y icon-making folks ?
17:38.24mjcthat would be mikk
17:38.29mjc~seen mikk
17:38.55purlmikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 7d 17h 13s ago, saying: 'i mean.. it's just error handling'.
17:38.55mjcI think
17:38.56mjcMikma would know
17:38.56Mikmawa
17:39.11mjcwasn't mikk the one that did some graphics for you?
17:39.27Mikmaye
17:40.08sylvanaarim trying to find someone who can make an icon or two for prat- maybe more if they want
17:41.30Fisker-is there any addon which makes it possible to see some kind of symmetry onscreen?
17:41.37Fisker-So i like can allign up frames perfectly
17:41.41Fisker-instead of by eyesight
17:42.03mjcyes
17:42.09mjcsec, link incoming
17:42.17Grinegod I love Baggins :P
17:42.32sylvanaaryou can just use script commands too
17:42.39mjcFisker-: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2573
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17:43.21Fisker-i hope you are a winner
17:46.10Fisker-you are no winner mjc :(
17:46.12Fisker-not updated QQ
17:46.16MikmaFisker-: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6153-Align.html
17:46.58Finsylvanaar: I know a bunch of free-as-in-beer icons that you could use
17:48.11mjcFisker-: it took like 2 seconds to fix it
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17:50.55snurre-geez, some addon is eating my mem usage
17:51.04snurre-two days ago i was at 20mb, now im peaking at 65mb or so
17:51.17Fisker-have had the same issue though
17:51.22Fisker-not as severe as yours though
17:51.48Fisker-but it still manages to get to a point where it's initial start at my UI limit :/
17:52.07Fisker-so i have to force GC every second or it'll start running like shit and whine about ui memory
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17:52.37sylvanaarFin: i want an icon for CopyChat, and perhaps a new prat icon, esp for the minimap
17:52.48snurre-forced a gc 2 mins ago, so i was down at 22mb, now im at 32mb
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17:52.59sylvanaarsnurre-: what are you doing
17:53.13snurre-av
17:53.14sylvanaaridling?
17:53.25sylvanaarav, ok so you are raiding
17:53.28snurre-yeh
17:53.34snurre-never been like this tho, just yesterday and today
17:53.43snurre-34mb now, its churning really fucking bad
17:53.50mjcanyone want a T2 horde priest?
17:54.01Fisker-sure! :P
17:54.13mjcUS
17:54.30Kirkburnsylvanaar, eta of the new Prat, then? You look very busy with it! :)
17:55.25Fisker-i assume by "want" you mean buy though?
17:55.29mjcyep
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17:55.49Fisker-good
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17:56.15sylvanaarKirkburn: its gotta be tested
17:56.28Fisker-i can elp you teh test!1
17:56.37Fisker-i can't spell help though
17:56.43Kirkburnhaha
17:57.03KirkburnYou're from "up north", aintcha :P
17:57.18Fisker-technically yeah :P
17:57.21sylvanaarFisker-: grab the lastesf from by branch and go to town
17:57.45KirkburnI recommend Lakeshire. It's a nice town.
17:57.49Fisker-i don't like where this is going
17:58.02Fisker-unless it includes excessive fisting
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18:00.27sylvanaarKirkburn: most of the changes i had planned are either complete or mostly done, but im being particular about testing because its a big departure internally
18:00.42KirkburnHow so?
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18:01.53Amadeomjc: You quitting WoW?
18:02.10Fisker-probably selling out and rerolling
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18:07.35mjcno just selling one of my accounts
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18:08.15Fisker-Only reason i'd want one is to join the great US community
18:08.19GrineThrae_, you around?
18:09.42Fisker-svn co path(remote) path(local) right?
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18:11.16hanzzonhi, I'm looking for something simple that allows me to see if a mob has been tagged or not, was using Tinytip but it's too buggy... is there something else?
18:12.09[H]MordokaiWhat does it mean if something is incompatible and how do i fix it
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18:12.25Finyou could just look at the health bar, hanzzon
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18:12.38Finsylvanaar: how did Prat get its name?
18:13.02hanzzonFin; look at the healthbar, what changes?
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18:13.12Finit's silver if the mob has been tagged by someone else
18:13.26hanzzonFin; heh, thnx ;-)
18:13.32sylvanaarFin: its from a scandavaian word, its on the wiki page
18:13.44Finhanzonn: np, took me about 14 months before I realised that personally
18:13.48Fink
18:13.52alcaraswhat's an mpq program that can open mpq files over 2 gb?
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18:14.27Fin"That's a great question that I've seen asked quite often on the IRC channel"
18:14.28Finheh
18:14.29Fisker-mywarcraftstudio can
18:14.30Fisker-i believe
18:14.50Fisker-haven't shadowflare released an updated dll for winmpq and such?
18:14.56[H]Mordokaianyone who know a good and working Spellalert ?
18:15.25Fisker-pretty useless now with target cast bars imo :P
18:15.35TainI never actually used Spellalert, is Antagonist like it?
18:15.36[H]Mordokaii have that to , but i want it anyway
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18:16.22kenlyricum, Witchhunt is like spellalert.
18:16.47alcarasuh, where can you download mywarcraftstudio?
18:17.04alcarasi don't want to model change
18:17.16alcarasjust want to extract the sounds of getting hit so i can decide on which horde race i don't like least :p
18:17.35alcarasfound a link :p
18:18.39CIA-1703ricowan * r22775 10RicoMiniMap/RicoMiniMap.lua:
18:18.39CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
18:18.39CIA-17- Solved the FuBar issue, added a transparency option
18:18.46xlviihttp://astore.amazon.com/wowace-20/detail/0470110023/102-7423934-0137713
18:18.46xlvii;p
18:19.10Karnso anyone have any more problems with skinner and moving windows?
18:19.17CIA-1703ricowan * r22776 10RicoMiniMap/RicoMiniMap.toc:
18:19.17CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
18:19.17CIA-17- updated the TOC
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18:21.09Karn~mywarcraftstudio
18:24.05Fisker-what was the url i had to use for the svn again?
18:26.27Finfor what?
18:26.40CIA-1703eraslin 07v2.0 * r22777 10DKPmon/ (8 files in 5 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 -- Start on implementing a DKP browser in Bidder.
18:26.47Fisker-need to get that prat branch :O
18:27.10HjalteKemayo: ping
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18:27.41Finhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Prat/modules/ # ??
18:29.13sylvanaarhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/Prat/
18:29.28Fisker-ah lol
18:29.30SarozThere are like NO good cooldown bars out there
18:29.32Saroznone
18:29.33Fisker-looked for root
18:29.47BarbanusMy honorfu does strange things
18:29.58BarbanusSwitch to a character I havent played all day ..
18:30.03Barbanusit shows it having honor
18:30.50kenlyricSaroz: oCD works fairly well, though it does miss long cooldown trinkets sometimes.
18:35.05Sarozindeed
18:35.09Sarozaka. it doesn't work very well
18:35.17Barbanuslool
18:41.29CIA-1703benumbed * r22778 10MusicStream/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MusicStream:Stop Adding Channels thru SVN, use the import feature to import YOUR channels into your own personal copy.
18:41.51Gnarfozdamn seriously
18:41.58GnarfozI envy ckk
18:41.59Gnarfoz:p
18:42.15Benumbedcan you stop ppl from making svn changes?
18:42.24Benumbedsomething I can add somewhere
18:43.13GnarfozBenumbed: kaelten is able to set permissions on SVN
18:43.32Gnarfozdunno if anyone else is, but he can do that
18:43.52Benumbedsome asshats keep adding channels and ticking me off, screwed up some stuff
18:44.43Gnarfozyeah, for such cases
18:44.44Gnarfoz;>
18:44.55TheKarnwhat other music players are there for wow?
18:45.00hastekenlyric: change the maximum cooldown time, and it should work
18:45.29Benumbedits easy to fix, just revert my copy then commit, but I added an import feature so ppl could import into their db, not defaults =x
18:45.32GnarfozI still don't even get why you would want a music player inside wow :D
18:46.00kebinusanGnarfoz, slightly lower overhead than running winamp in the background
18:46.09Gnarfozyeah... like... erm
18:46.12Gnarfozwtf? :p
18:46.27Gnarfozyou're running a game that eats hundreds of megs of ram
18:46.38Benumbedgnarfoz, shrug..but in cases where its streaming radio stations...its handy
18:46.46Gnarfozare 6mb for winamp too much :D
18:46.55Gnarfozhow so? winamp can do those, too? :D
18:47.01GnarfozI'm not dissing your addon, mind that
18:47.24Benumbedwinamp, mediaplayer can I think
18:47.24Gnarfozjust curious :>
18:47.36Benumbedbut cant change stations I dont think
18:47.42Gnarfozhuh? sure
18:47.53Benumbedgotta alt tab, click another station..
18:47.56Gnarfozno
18:47.56Gnarfoz:P
18:48.00Gnarfozthat's what global hotkeys are for :D
18:48.05kenlyrichaste: I thought the default was 60 last time I tried it. Though, I don't have much use for a cooldown timer... I don't mind the ones on the bars.
18:48.07Benumbedyeah
18:48.28Benumbedshrug, still think its easier
18:48.36Benumbednow only if I could pull id3 tags into wow
18:48.44Gnarfoz"use what you like" is of course valid, and I commend you on this find that playmusic takes URLs :D
18:48.52Fisker-AUTOMATON!!!!
18:49.06Fisker-Benumbed heh
18:49.07hasteGnarfoz: it's been known for a pretty long time
18:49.15Fisker-I knew this was going to happen
18:49.26Benumbedhmm?>
18:49.32Fisker-when i saw that "Added korean pops channels" on CIA
18:49.36hasteI've used it to control Amarok since beta at least
18:49.39Fisker-"damn koreans" :P
18:49.52Barbanuswtf, seriously ... why is my honor on honorfu 39k, but I havent played this character in like 2 months
18:49.55Benumbedwasnt just adding them, was not done right so couldnt skip etc on them right
18:50.18Benumbedthats why I added import channel feature, so ppl could import their own into THEIR db...not defaults heh
18:50.20Gnarfoztotally different question: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/22713
18:50.20AmadeoI don't use HonorFu anymore, for no other reason than it updates every night so I don't feel the need for it
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18:50.40Gnarfozio.open("",w)? does that even work?
18:50.49TheKarnbut yeah Fisker-, i agree. Ckknight does suck.
18:50.51ckknighthey all
18:50.56TheKarnoh ... hey ckknight
18:50.57Gnarfozlol
18:51.01BarbanusAmadeo, I like it cause it gives me exact honor, including diminishing returns ... exact as in ... within 1 point.
18:51.17Fisker-Yeah TheKarn he does suck
18:51.22Fisker-oh hi ckknight
18:51.26ckknight...
18:51.27AmadeoBarbanus: Yeah, I used it when it updated once a week...but there's no rush for me anymore
18:51.29Fisker-i just upgraded your ram
18:51.36Fisker-btw sylvanaar
18:51.42Fisker-[2006/12/30 19:45:24-7-x15]: Prat-1.0.22544\modules\ChannelRenumbering.lua:117: attempt to index field 'orderlist' (a nil value)
18:51.43Fisker-:O
18:51.59TheKarnFisker-, disable that mod
18:52.00TheKarnits broken
18:52.02Fisker-when mousing over the ChannelRenumbering->Sorting on load thingy
18:52.08Fisker-i'm not using it TheKarn :P
18:52.14sylvanaaryeah, its borked
18:52.28sylvanaarjust turn that module off
18:52.35AmadeoI can't believe they already hung Saddam, I didn't expect that for a long time
18:52.48Fisker-pretty obvious imo
18:52.52Benumbedso yesterday news =P
18:53.02AmadeoYeah
18:53.04Barbanusckknight, any idea why a character I havent played in 2 months would be showing 27k honor for today?
18:53.05AmadeoJust reading about it now
18:53.09Barbanusin honorfu
18:53.16ckknightBarbanus: no
18:53.18Fisker-Now it's just more than one "dictactor" ruling the company
18:53.20Fisker-company?
18:53.24Fisker-The land of course :P
18:53.47TainI'm telling you, Saddam is going to pop up quietly in the midwest running a 7-11
18:53.56Benumbedrofl
18:54.08kebinusansylvanaar, is there a converted chatlink module in your branch?
18:54.26Fisker-kinda sucks they didn't televise(or whatever) the thing all the way through in the us
18:54.34Gnarfozckknight: cheers very high on the WTF-scale for creating instance maps on the fly and thus cutting down Cart's size by 10 megs or so... great piece of work :D
18:54.46Benumbedshouldnt have made a big deal about it, just do a "in other news, saddam was hanged...back to the weather", instead of all over the news like he was a god
18:55.05ckknightGnarfoz: it's only about half of the maps due to me not being able to troll the WMOs in the MPQ myself.
18:55.15sylvanaarkebinusan: yes
18:55.22Fisker-troll them? :O
18:55.22Gnarfozwhat do you mean by troll?
18:55.32ckknightget data out of it.
18:55.45Benumbedmpqeditor?
18:55.49ckknightI don't have the algorithm to do so.
18:56.10ckknightit's not about getting the file itself, it's about getting the right part of the file, which I can't quite do yet.
18:56.14Gnarfozhm, how are they different from the ones you got working?
18:56.20Benumbedohh i see
18:56.26ckknightGnarfoz: I stole the ones I have now from another addon.
18:56.30ckknighthush hush
18:56.37Gnarfozanother one did that, already? o_O
18:56.54ckknightAtlas 2.00 Alpha 3
18:57.03ckknightgranted, much of his texture algorithm was flawed
18:57.04ckknightand still is
18:57.05kenlyricHey, I work for the internet police, what do you need?
18:57.09ckknightprobably doesn't even realize it
18:57.13kebinusansylvanaar, silly question how do I enable things listed as disabled
18:57.19ckknightso I fixed that for my own stuff
18:57.23ckknightand just stole the data
18:57.26Fisker-well ckknight improved upon atlas' texture algorithm and used it for himself
18:57.38ckknightI pretty much rewrote it
18:57.40Fisker-he's breaking my epeen(or perhaps the creators)
18:57.44ckknighthe stole his algorithm from wowwiki
18:57.47ckknightwhich is flawed.
18:58.03Fisker-it's cool though
18:58.03Gnarfozwill the maps be as HQ as the HQ version of atlas' maps?
18:58.16Fisker-just a bit sucky with the jagged tiles
18:58.17ckknightGnarfoz: no, they won't, they'll be much crisper
18:58.23Gnarfozthought as much
18:58.24Fisker-btw
18:58.27Fisker-i'm wondering
18:58.28Gnarfozif they're right from the files, they should be as hq as they get
18:58.29ckknightFisker-: hrm?
18:58.34Fisker-Doesn't it allow you to zoom in on specific areas?
18:58.36Benumbedany suggestions on where to start on how to pull id3 into wow? or even possible?
18:58.51Fisker-since it's basically just using the ingame textures instead of an image
18:58.52kenlyricBloodmyst Isle looks funny ;)
18:59.00kebinusanbenumbed, post on the wowi forums and ask slouken for that functionality
18:59.03Fisker-didn't you read the patch notes?
18:59.26Fisker-"Graphical errors on the map can now be seen"
18:59.26Fisker-or something like that
18:59.27Benumbedim afraid they will close the http call
18:59.30kenlyricyeah... that was the strangest patch note i ever read :)
18:59.32CIA-1703jncl * r22779 10Skinner/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned WorldMapTooltip & MetaMap options (again); PVP Honor kills resized; Perl Classic changes (Thanks droop) and changed frame level to show PVP icons etc; tidied up some skins ;)
18:59.35Benumbedsince they cant verify it before loading into game
18:59.38sylvanaarkenlyric: check the toggle item
18:59.47Fisker-I doubt he'll remove the http call
18:59.55Fisker-at the very least he'll just deny ID3
19:00.07Fisker-which is kinda understandable seeing you could import data through it
19:00.13Barbanusckknight, so I just logged into another character I haven't logged into in like 3 weeks, the "time" value in my SavedVariables file was 1165378726 (which is 24 days ago), and it didnt reset the honor, its just adding to it
19:00.34Benumbed=x
19:01.31CIA-1703ckknight * r22780 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - added frFR Armor of Faith
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19:02.04kebinusansylvanaar, it seems you can only toggle inactive modules from the fubar plugin, not from the command line unless Im missing something
19:02.58ckknightFisker-: yes, I could allow the ability to zoom in on instance maps
19:03.02ckknightbut that may come later.
19:03.20Fisker-of course
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19:03.32Fisker-i'm just in your computer, upgrading your ramz
19:06.22sylvanaarkebinusan: um, that may be, is there a disabled addons section in the console
19:06.27TheKarnckknight, is the new changes to cart in the trunk?
19:06.30TheKarnor a branch/tag?
19:06.38ckknighttrunk
19:06.46ckknightI don't branch unless it's drastic
19:07.12Fisker-like "Hey there's this bug in x" times 200
19:07.12Fisker-:P
19:07.27Fisker-also sylvanaar
19:07.36Fisker-positioning of the chatframe buttons are a bit weird
19:07.49TheKarnFisker-, solution = dont show them :P
19:08.05Fisker-default seems to do noting, and right, outside the frame is inside and inside is the same just a bit higher than the other.
19:08.54TheKarnFisker-, working fine here
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19:09.03TheKarndefault should do nothing
19:09.09TheKarnits the default chat buttons position
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19:10.35kebinusanah nm sylvanaar  I figured it out
19:12.14kebinusanprat needs an option to reskin the editbox
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19:12.54Barbanusckknight, okay ... I could be totally wrong, but it looks like in Glory, if you have an alt, dont play it ever ... pvp for 1 day ... then dont play for 2 weeks, and then pvp for 1 day, because both "yesterdays" have 0 honor, it doesnt reset the honor.
19:13.12ckknightah
19:13.14ckknightthat could be true
19:13.35ckknightI could add another check to check for time if it's > 36 hours or so
19:13.45ckknighthrm.
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19:13.55ckknightwait, no, I'd need to check like 47 hours to be safe
19:14.01BarbanusYea
19:14.56sylvanaarkebinusan: i have gone back and forth about skinning support in prat
19:15.05Finsylvanaar: http://pgl.yoyo.org/c/prat-icons/  # any good?
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19:15.08BarbanusI so didnt follow the logic in the code, took me forever to figure out what it was doing
19:15.18sylvanaaryou can use skinner to skit prat
19:16.16kebinusansylvanaar,  yeah, I stopped using skinner cause it just does too much
19:17.04kebinusanit doesnt even seem to do the group loot frames in the sexy oskin way anymore... which was the reason I started using it
19:17.08sylvanaarkebinusan: yeah i know
19:17.22Fisker-the days of sexy oskin is gone : (
19:19.04CIA-1703ckknight * r22782 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory-2.0 - now also checks .time if a new day occurs.
19:19.14Barbanussweet, thanks ckknight
19:27.13mjcckknight: who did the instance loot thing
19:27.21ckknightnot sure
19:27.24ckknightnymbia?
19:27.48nevcairielhrm
19:27.55nevcairielnearly all instance notes are placed wrong now
19:28.01ckknightI know
19:28.04ckknightsomeone fix it!
19:28.16ckknightthey're not off by much
19:28.17nevcairieli guess no automated fixing possible?
19:28.21ckknightno, nevcairiel
19:28.24ckknightthe coords changed
19:28.30nevcairielmeh
19:28.44ckknightI'd do it, but I don't know instances or where they should specifically go
19:28.44nevcairielguess i am bored enough to fix some
19:28.48nevcairielhehe
19:29.13Barbanusckknight needs less time coding, more time playing?
19:29.28ckknightlol
19:29.31ckknightyou know I don't play WoW
19:29.45BarbanusI didnt know :P
19:31.19nevcairielyou create the maps from minimap maps now?
19:31.55ckknightyes.
19:32.12nevcairielso what are those .blp files for then?
19:32.12nevcairiel:D
19:32.21ckknightit's about half done
19:32.25nevcairielah. :)
19:34.58ckknightwhat can be used on Mac OS X to extract MPQs?
19:35.19Mikma~framexml
19:35.21purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip
19:35.23Mikmathat :D
19:35.26ckknightno, Mikma
19:35.29ckknightMPQs.
19:35.31ckknightnot the framexml.
19:35.59Mikmawell, i don't think that many programs exist. i have searched them myself but have found only 1/2
19:36.09alcarasckknight: http://wowdev.org/
19:36.42alcarasnothing for a mac tho :(
19:37.09ag`ckknight: I might suggest you try out parallels or VMWare for stuff you can't do
19:38.08ckknight:-(
19:39.05ckknightthe downfall of mac
19:39.13ag`If there's an app for linux just put ubuntu on a vmware image
19:39.18ckknightthe high had lasted so long, too
19:39.23ag`haha
19:39.48chuckgWhat about wowwiki!?
19:40.27ckknightwhat about it?
19:40.56chuckgwowdev?
19:41.05chuckgTrying to takeover ww market!
19:41.06sylvanaarFin: they look good in photoshop
19:41.24alcaraswowdev actually had a working link to modelviewr and warcraft studio
19:41.46alcarasckknight: there's an alpha wow model viewer for mac http://www.sailesha.com/wowmodelview/
19:41.51alcarasnot sure if it would be helpful at all, includes source code tho
19:43.06sylvanaarckknight: i added servertype and battlegroup data to GloryLib fyi, seemed like a good place for it. feel free to revert it though
19:43.21ckknightalcaras: though cool, I'm not interested in the models...
19:43.30ckknightsylvanaar: sounds good to me.
19:43.43ckknightservertype?
19:43.47ckknightwhat do you mean?
19:43.54sylvanaarpvp, pve, rp, rppvp
19:44.00ckknighthow do you check that?
19:44.07sylvanaarweb page
19:44.33Mikmaso, hunter can equip Ammobag and arrowbag.. can it get the both bonuses from the bags? 12 + 12?
19:44.34sylvanaarthe link is in my commit note
19:45.10sylvanaarthat info doesnt change very often
19:45.26LLoydBatesMikma: should only get the bonus youre getting your ammo/arrows  from ... or not?
19:45.39LLoydBates*from the back youre getting
19:45.47LLoydBates.. bag -..
19:45.58LLoydBatesdamn spelling, need more beer
19:46.03MikmaLLoydBates: well i have no idea but was just wondering about it
19:46.07kebinusanmikma no the bonuses do not stack
19:46.12Mikmasince it's "equip:"
19:46.13kebinusanthat was fixed some time ago
19:46.41kebinusanand im pretty sure the bonus only affects ammo used from that bag
19:47.55Mikmaok then, thanks
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19:49.59ag`ckknight: maybe check if http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21142 works
19:51.44jkwHm.
19:51.46ckknightag`: it won't, they changed their MPQ format
19:51.47ckknightafaik
19:51.48jkw<event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint()'.
19:52.06jkwFull error message: http://ace.pastey.net/4185
19:52.18ckknightanother questlog one
19:52.24ckknightKemayo: ^--- thoughts?
19:52.49jkwGot 6 errors that says _almost_ the same, want me to post em all?
19:52.50alcarasjkw: i get that error a lot
19:52.56KemayoNo clue.  Similar error happens without QuestsFu enabled, mind.
19:53.19Fisker-ckknight use my warcraft studio
19:53.22Fisker-it can read the new "format"
19:53.26ckknightFisker-: on a Mac?
19:53.31Fisker-oh
19:53.33Fisker-i suck
19:53.40Fisker-well recompile the libraries themself :P
19:53.46jkwWarcraft Studio? :o
19:54.05KemayoOh, ckknight, the new Deadmines map in Cartographer doesn't seem to include the ship room.
19:54.16ckknightKemayo: odd
19:54.18Fisker-the my warcraft studio guy writes what has been changed and what needs to be changed in the SFMPQ.dll files, perhaps it could be useful on the mac stuff
19:55.20nevcairielckknight: is the node positioning format documented somewhere?
19:55.40ckknightnevcairiel: on wowdev in the WMO part
19:56.18Fisker-i can extract the stuff you need as well if you need that ckknight
19:56.27Fisker-dunno if the stuff is very large though
19:56.47ckknightI need all the OgrimmarLavaDungeon WMOs.
19:57.06ckknightit's not big
19:57.25ckknightbut there's like 13 of em counting the header
20:00.23CIA-1703dorje * r22783 10MSBTCooldowns/ (. MSBTCooldowns.lua MSBTCooldowns.toc):
20:00.23CIA-17MSBTCooldowns v1.0a
20:00.24CIA-17- Fixed missing dependency for Parser Lib - sorry about that :D
20:01.27Gnarfozckknight: any reports lately about notes appearing outside of the minimap?
20:01.36ckknightno
20:02.26Gnarfozweird, got one from a guy on my server :\
20:02.41LLoydBateswant one report? got it every day while collection herbs ;P
20:03.02LLoydBatesbut i don't mind :)
20:03.13Fisker-http://www.cnitblog.com/linghuye <-the format changes are detailed there i think
20:03.22Fisker-but half japanese/chinese/whatever site
20:03.28Gnarfozchinese
20:03.50nevcairielckknight: you should add a debug mode to cartographer, which shows the ID of the current mouse over position. Or i missed some very obvious way to reposition the instance notes.
20:05.28KemayoHey, jkw, are you using any questlog addons?
20:05.28ckknightnevcairiel: you add the SV to the TOC, then you call :EnableDevelopment("InstanceNotes")
20:05.30Fisker-World\wmo\Dungeon\KL_OrgrimmarLavaDungeon
20:05.33Fisker-that's the one right ckknight ?
20:05.36ckknightFisker-: that's one of them
20:05.38nevcairielah.
20:05.43nevcairieli missed that command
20:05.50ckknightthere's also going to be KL_OrgrimmarLavaDungeon_000-011
20:05.54Fisker-yeah
20:05.59Fisker-this is the upper folder :P
20:06.03Fisker-the files are inside
20:06.13ckknightalright
20:06.23Fisker-what archive you want it in?
20:07.30ckknightwhatever's easiest
20:08.42Fisker-just gotta stop leeching :P
20:08.52Fisker-then my upload should go up
20:09.39Fisker-is it my upload or your download that's screwed?
20:11.00ckknightyour upload
20:11.10ckknightwhatever, 6 minutes
20:11.53Fisker-gonna do a rapidshare or something like that if you need more
20:12.10ckknightmy windows CD is scratched...
20:12.15ckknightcan't install on Parallels
20:12.17ckknight:-(
20:12.32ckknightdamn you, ntfs.sys
20:13.49GamefaqGnarfoz: is this question "[21:02] <Gnarfoz> ckknight: any reports lately about notes appearing outside of the minimap?" only about Cartogrpher or about Cartographer Mining too?
20:13.49Gnarfozthe guy in this case has _Mining and _Herbalism, notes for both show up where they shouldn't
20:13.49Gamefaqi have this too!
20:13.49Gamefaqcan made screenshot for it
20:13.59Gamefaqall my mining  notes go outside the minimap
20:14.15ckknightscreenie
20:14.22Gamefaqjust a momment
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20:15.05LLoydBatescould add one too, Herbalism nodes showing outside of minimap. (german client)
20:16.45LLoydBatesgonna take a screenshot :)
20:18.15Fisker-fraps or it didn't happen
20:18.37LLoydBateshm ... ok, first try in Azshara didn't reproduce it ... gonna try winterspring. and i cant use fraps
20:18.50Gnarfozy not? ^^
20:18.53LLoydBatesLinux
20:19.10Gnarfozoh well :P
20:19.10LLoydBatesand a very very slow pc
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20:19.35Fisker-root access or it didn't happen then
20:19.35Fisker-:P
20:19.59LLoydBatest(-.-)
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20:22.59LLoydBates*waiting for upload*
20:23.21Fisker-i've packed a 200MB rar archive with all wmo\dungeon files
20:23.32Fisker-if you want that
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20:23.37Fisker-just need a host though
20:23.46Fisker-rapidshare only accept 100MB as max i believe
20:24.08CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22784 10Prat/Prat/modules/servers.lua: Prat: this stuff is now in GloryLib
20:24.18GnarfozFisker-: how fast's your upload?
20:24.25LLoydBateshttp://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot123006212046pn6.jpg
20:24.29Fisker-50kB/s max
20:24.44LLoydBatesCartographer_Herbalism, showing nodes outside of minimap @ ckknight
20:25.13ckknighthrm
20:25.14ckknightodd
20:25.28Gnarfozlol that looks weird
20:25.31ckknightif you move, do they move too?
20:25.39LLoydBatesyes they do
20:25.55ZOAS|sleepLater folks, off to New Year's weekend fun.
20:26.18LLoydBatesthe nodes are in the right position on the minimap, just they are also showing outside of it
20:26.34KirkburnCan anyone reach http://www.clearfont.eu/ ?
20:26.47Fisker-nope
20:26.50KirkburnWeird
20:27.02Fisker-*** ns3.arrownet.dk can't find clearfont.eu: Non-existent domain
20:27.07KirkburnBought it earlier, should be working
20:27.07Fisker-did you just get it?
20:27.24Fisker-remember it takes 24-48 hours for dns propogations to happen
20:27.25Fisker-also
20:27.26Mygorehttp://www.clearfont.co.uk/
20:27.30Mygoreis that it?
20:27.35mjcit's in the SVN
20:27.40Kirkburnyep, that's what it should be :)
20:27.49Fisker-Some TLD-provides require you activate your domain before they propogate it to the rest of the dns servers
20:27.50KirkburnIt's showing as sorted on my list ... the other two addresses I ordered are fine
20:28.35Kirkburnnvm, shall wait and see
20:28.40Fisker-so ckknight you'd want that whole dungeons file there?
20:28.51KirkburnDunno whether to start using .eu as the main one or not though :P
20:29.20ckknightFisker-: essentially.
20:29.40grollhmm which range check is best of sairens and miles one? :P
20:29.56KirkburnLLoydBates, what's the bar above you?
20:30.07LLoydBatesNabuco5sec
20:30.25LLoydBates2 pix hight ;P
20:30.35LLoydBatesand removed the text on the candybar
20:30.39KirkburnWhat does it do?
20:30.58KirkburnFSR?
20:31.01LLoydBatesyes
20:31.02Fisker-anyone got a bandwitdh monitor program?
20:31.10Fisker-I need to see why i can't get max speed on my uploads
20:31.18LLoydBatesand nothing more, it's right under my casting bar (when i'm casting)
20:31.24ckknightKirkburn: shows up for me.
20:32.10Kirkburnckknight, .eu? Must be a DNS thing then I guess
20:32.21ckknightKirkburn: no, your co.uk one
20:32.31KirkburnAh, I know that one works :)
20:33.06Gamefaqckknight: http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cartographerminingbugno6.jpg
20:33.36ckknightGamefaq: if you zoom in/out on your minimap, does it reflect?
20:33.46Gamefaqmom
20:33.52LLoydBatesand if anybody is wondering why my first spell on my actionbar is smite .. priest with 550spelldmg is a nice smiter :D
20:34.33Gamefaqyes they zoom in/out too
20:35.43jkwLLoydBates: Got any profile?
20:36.13Gamefaqcknight: yes they zoom in/out too
20:36.20LLoydBatesjkw: only with german itemnames
20:36.41jkw+550 spell damage on a priest is beyond my knowledge
20:36.43jkw:)
20:37.05LLoydBatesgot 490spelldmg with items, 60 because of spirit (spiritual guidance is very nice)
20:37.23ckknightGamefaq: hrm
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20:37.56Gnarfozckknight: the guy I was referring to: also german client
20:38.09jkwLLoydBates: Well, pm me a link if you want :]
20:38.11ckknightdamn you Germans.
20:38.18AshHow does one dispute the classification of a bug report?
20:38.19LLoydBates:D
20:38.31Fisker-think i found what was CLOGGING my tubes too
20:38.34Fisker-so now my upload should be quicker
20:38.39Gamefaqckknight: :p ^^
20:38.44Fisker-anyways i'm uploading it to Gnarfoz when i get my archived zipped
20:38.59Fisker-i'm using 7zip cause he says it's 1337
20:39.04Gnarfoz;P
20:39.25Gnarfozshould cut down on the time you spend uploading, anyway
20:39.25Gnarfoz;p
20:39.26CrisCrOsshey i hav a question, for FuBar_MiniClockFu
20:39.31CrisCrOssis it possible to show the time in 12h time?
20:39.34CrisCrOssinstead of 24
20:41.57Fintry Fubar_ClockFu instead
20:42.02AshDoesn't appear to be much official voice to the channel. All the developers asleep?
20:42.22Finwhat's an official voice?
20:42.34AshAn answer to my question?
20:42.50Ash:)
20:43.16FinI think developers generally look after their own stuff, rather than there being an Ace Overlord
20:43.30CrisCrOssne ace pvp mods?
20:43.54AshGranted. But in my case, I don't know who to poke. Someone changed a bug I filed and I think they changed it to te wrong addon.
20:43.56PProvosta few simple ones... whatcha lookin for/
20:44.11Ash(Blaming Baggins, when t's actually missing data in PT2)
20:44.12CrisCrOssmainly timers for AB
20:44.16CrisCrOssand flag holders in WSG
20:44.23AshCrisCross: Capping
20:44.29PProvostthere is one called battlegroundfu
20:44.32PProvostit has timers
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20:44.42PProvostand other good stuff
20:45.01PProvostI don't think it is in the svn tho
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20:45.23CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22785 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/ChannelRenumbering.lua): Prat: Added a .status field to indicate the current status of a module, right now its "BROKEN" or nil. Broken gets colored red in the menus
20:45.43CodayusFuBar_BattlegroundFu is in the SVN.
20:45.46Tullerhrm, what's the return for GetNumShapeshiftForms() for a priest with shadowform
20:45.49AshCapping has all the timers you need for AV and AB. Covers auto-turnin of quests in AV also.
20:45.52CodayusThere's also Capping
20:46.03Tullermy guess pre 2.0 would be 0
20:46.26CrisCrOsshmm capping..and bgfu
20:46.31CrisCrOsslet me read up bout em
20:47.04AshAny of the maintainers of PT2 on right now?
20:47.20TheKarnwhy would my range be defaulting to 0.5?
20:47.35CrisCrOssi read somehwere SpellAlert displayes killing blows
20:47.36CrisCrOsstht true/
20:48.36LLoydBatesCrisCrOss: well, SCT / SCTD can display killing blows
20:49.13TheKarnignore that comment ... might help if my get function returned the value.
20:49.35CrisCrOssLLoydBates: it in the options?
20:50.16sylvanaaris there even a bug tracker?
20:50.28sylvanaarsounds so formal
20:50.36LLoydBatesCrisCrOss: yes, just looked. SCT got that option
20:50.45CrisCrOssthanks alot
20:51.09AshSylvanaar: You mean like Trac?
20:51.23sylvanaarAsh: nobody looks at that
20:51.35AshYeah, I'm finding that out. Sad really.
20:52.13sylvanaarAsh: well, it just hasnt worked consistantly so people have gone in other directions
20:52.36Sarozcan someone put "Gift of Life" in babble-spell
20:52.37Sarozplx?
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20:52.41AshI noticed. They took it down during the critical post-patch time when it was needed most.
20:53.11sylvanaarAsh: nobody's fault
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20:53.30sylvanaarAsh: dont get worked up about it
20:53.58CrisCrOssis battleground fu on wowintercaE?
20:54.04AshI'm not. I think it's kinda sad that there's no central tracking that everyone can use, but it's as much pain for you all as for us users I'm sure.
20:54.23sylvanaarAsh: ignorance is bliss
20:54.33AshBut I'm nowhere near worked up. I just would like it if I had some way to provide decent bug reports to the devs.
20:54.49sylvanaarforum, or irc
20:54.52AshI've got a stack of missing item IDs that I want to pass to the PT folks, and can't find any of them.
20:54.58Fingoogle groups ftw!
20:55.01CrisCrOssdoesnt WoWinterface provide a nice way
20:55.07AshAnd forums are not an acceptable way to manage defects.
20:55.16sylvanaartell that to blizzard
20:55.23Gamefaqckknight: i have played with the zoom in/out function from minimap the cartographer_minig icons not zoome in/out they move in/out from the middle (maybe that helps whats going on)
20:55.25PProvostAsh, we have experimented with trackers and found that people don't use em
20:55.26Finacceptable to whom?
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20:55.47ckknightGamefaq: odd...
20:56.01AshFin: To most any siginificant development project.
20:56.09PProvostThe best thing to do would be to make a patch and send it in to the project owner.
20:56.10CIA-1703morgalm * r22786 10MorgDKP/ (13 files):
20:56.10CIA-17MorgDKP: initial commit
20:56.10CIA-17-Allows ML to control loot distribution and tracks DKP
20:56.15BarbanusAsh, they took it down because it was causing server issues.
20:56.24sylvanaar~luaser
20:56.26purlfrom memory, luaser is "Just tell me what i want to know so I dont have to waste my time, just yours"
20:56.26Sarozso many DKP mods in SVN
20:56.26AshGuys, calm down.
20:56.26BarbanusYou either get to downlaod mods, or have trac
20:56.31BarbanusYour choice.
20:56.39AshI know why they did, and I'm not disagreeign with it.
20:56.42sylvanaarthats what we get ^^
20:57.15AshYes, most users are incapable of decently reporting a bug, but not all of us are like that.
20:57.21Terrasqu1guys, got something I want some input on.. http://terrasque.mine.nu/main/WoWAddonUpdater <--  Check the 0.1a gui version if you want to dl and check
20:57.40BarbanusTerrasqu1, whats this for?
20:57.46snurre-31man guild premade in AV :D
20:58.15ilifinstinkyqueue ftw eh?
20:58.17PProvostLooks interesting Terrasqu1. Just an FYI that a project with that name already exists on sourceforge (no... not mine).
20:58.22Terrasqu1Barbanus: addon updater thingy :) I know ace got a pretty ace updater, but i wanted something more generic
20:58.25snurre-preformav for us
20:58.51Terrasqu1PProvost: name is temporarily. just something to name it. you know how it is :)
20:58.54ilifintry beat our speed snurre-, we did 13 minute AV with all towers taken + galvangar with 10 man premade :p
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20:59.11PProvostTerrasqu1, and just a heads up that WAU 2.0 will be generic and support all the addon sites. Just being transparent.
20:59.50CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22787 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
20:59.50CIA-17Babble-2.2:
20:59.50CIA-17- added Gift of Life
20:59.53Terrasqu1great :) anything close to my idea? using a file in the addon to set update areas and such?
21:00.12nevcairielSaroz: there.
21:00.14SarozTHANK YOU!
21:00.16Saroz<3
21:00.25Barbanuslol
21:00.26snurre-ilifin: we did some 10min runs yesterday, but thats not efficient
21:00.38BarbanusSaroz, very excited about your trees eh?
21:00.40snurre-we slow them down to 13-14mins now to get max bonus honor
21:00.52SarozBarbanus, it's warrior trinket buff, but ok
21:00.59CrisCrOssi cant find the battlegroundfu link..
21:01.11BarbanusSaroz, ahh you are right
21:01.53ilifinsnurre- - with all towers etc gone? o_o
21:02.05BarbanusI'm thinking Tree of Life, which I thought the +healing bonus was called Gift of Life
21:02.29nevcairielnop, healing buff is Tree of Life as well
21:02.29HjalteUmm, has anyone managed to download Probes serenity skin for cycircled? Or anyone with a filefactory premium account? :)
21:02.37sylvanaarTree of life is 2 different buffs
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21:03.23Barbanussylvanaar, yea, I thought the +healing buff was called gift of life, but I think they are both called tree of life
21:03.38Barbanus(the form, and the party buff)
21:03.45kebinusangift of life is the warrior trinket
21:03.46BarbanusI was just having a brainfart, tis all
21:03.52sylvanaarits your shapeshift buff you get in any druid form + a +healing buff, there are actually 2 icons for a druid
21:03.54kebinusanfrom bwl
21:04.11sylvanaarso you shift to tree and get Tree of Life x2
21:04.11Barbanuskebinusan, I know, I already admitted I was wrong :P
21:04.25Barbanussylvanaar, yea, thats what I though
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21:04.37Barbanuss/though/thought/
21:05.16sylvanaarquestion is which one do you click off to leave tree form?
21:05.40sylvanaaryou can click the aura off and it wont come back too
21:05.51nevcairielTree of Life - Immune to Polymorph effects.
21:05.51nevcairielthat one
21:05.52nevcairiel:D
21:05.57sylvanaaryeag
21:06.12sylvanaarhave to read the tooltp detail text
21:06.13Barbanuslol yea, I noticed that to sylvanaar
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21:07.13sylvanaari just dont see why its not called Aura of Life
21:07.39sylvanaaror the other one called Tree of Life Form
21:08.45sylvanaardo any of you use the prat - show buttons on chatframe feature
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21:12.31snurre-ilifin: always with all towers taken, we're going for honor
21:12.53ag`how good honor is doing the towers thing
21:13.27ilifin14 honor a pop
21:14.10Amadeoin TBC?
21:14.40snurre-atm we're running at about 400 honor per 20mins
21:14.58snurre-well, a bit less
21:15.08ag`Well, what happens if noone comes to take the towers back?
21:15.09snurre-13-14min games with 1-2 min wait time
21:15.39snurre-which towers? :p
21:16.07nevcairielag`: nothing^^
21:16.21JoshBorkeag`: when will i get my party pets?! zomg!
21:17.00ag`JoshBorke: maybe in 2.0.3
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21:17.23JoshBorkemaybe? MAYBE?! ROAR! j/k :-)
21:17.41ag`well there's something in 2.0.3 that will make it possible
21:17.49ag`even then I have to do some wierd setAttribute shit
21:17.55ag`which I suck at
21:19.27Fisker-let the suck flow through you
21:19.50Thorgard:?
21:19.52Thorgard:/
21:20.08ThorgardFisker-'s the master of suck. Let him teach you the ways, ag`.
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21:28.21alcarasis there a bigwigs for shade of aran yet? ;)
21:29.04kebinusanAnyone have an idea whats causing all these Addon_Action_Blocked messages relating to various SetPoint() calls?
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21:44.37TheKarnbest way to check if Shift is down? IsShiftDown()?
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21:44.52nevcairielyea
21:45.13TheKarnnice
21:45.30TheKarni added an option in Skinner's color settings to rotate all colours by a hue
21:45.37Benumbedag` you there
21:49.01CIA-1703sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22788 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/AddonMessages.lua): Prat: Category system for modules
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21:51.09VII|Beherithi there
21:51.20VII|Beheritsearchin a coordinate display tool for wow2.0
21:51.24VII|Beheritany hints?
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21:51.33neeneecartographer?
21:51.50VII|Beheritjust wanna have the coordinates where i or my mouse is on worldmap
21:51.54VII|Beheritnothing big
21:52.34JoshBorkeVII|Beherit: Cartographer is a complete map replacement that has that.  i'm sure there is another mod that has that functionality
21:52.38sylvanaarkebinusan: could be anything which moves the frames at the bottom of the screen
21:52.51VII|Beheritokk thanks i will take a look
21:53.28HjalteVII|Beherit: I think locationfu does it
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22:01.46BankZIs there anything else out there like agUF?
22:01.59alcarashow do i move ora player/main tank targets?
22:02.06alcarasah alt click
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22:08.18Finsylvanaar: let me know if you'll use those icons btw, please
22:09.24Finalso if you want any more, 'course :)
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22:13.03BankZI got a question about agUF
22:13.21BankZI want it to how much health a player is missing
22:13.29BankZwhats the custom keyword?
22:13.49Fisker-i think it's misshp
22:14.58sylvanaarFin have you tried using them in game
22:15.20BankZnope, not misshp
22:15.24BankZvaladation error
22:15.38Fisker-then i dunno :O
22:15.55GnarfozBankZ: check the wiki, all tags are there
22:16.04BankZhmmm
22:16.20sylvanaarFin: i havent gotten to yet myself, try them out on the reminder button and see how they look
22:16.35Gnarfozhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrames
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22:21.33neeneeHm. Baggins does not support alt-clicking for trades?
22:33.00Finsylvanaar: need to fix the transparency
22:33.16sylvanaarFin: yeah, i was thinking that
22:33.17BankZhmmm, [missingxp] doesnt seem to work
22:33.39BankZI mess [missinghp]
22:38.48FinI can find out how to do it, don't suppose you (or anyone else) could tell me a simple description of what to do, or point me to a recommended overview? I'll find something 'course but it's always nice to have personal recommendations :)
22:39.00snurre-seriously wonder which addon is suddenly pulling so much memory
22:39.55Finwarmup / teksupport don't help?
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22:40.05Fisker-ooh ckknight you're bacl
22:40.07Fisker-back*
22:40.12ckknightbut busy
22:40.46snurre-~15-20 KiB/s increase when outside BG, the second i enter AV it increases to 150+
22:40.52Fisker-Are you regged with nickserv? Cause then i can give you the link for that file
22:41.35ckknightyes.
22:41.56evlis it possible to get Cartographer without ALL the stuff?
22:41.57Mikmaumm
22:42.06Mikmayou need to be registered Fisker- to use private messages
22:42.08evlFeels like metamap and I only need to show where my precious veins are :P
22:42.20Fisker-i should be registered Mikma
22:42.34sylvanaari honestly am not sure, i suspect it works via a mask or colorkey
22:44.08ckknightevl: just delete the stuff you don't use
22:44.10ckknightor turn it off.
22:44.27ckknightI'm working on ways to make it super-small, evl
22:44.53Finhttp://www.edowner.net/Texture-Tutorial/
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22:47.30neeneeokay, I've been disconnected twice now while trying to link loot from Scholomance
22:48.17nymbianeenee: which itemid?
22:48.17evlckknight: can I run Cartographer_mining without the other...10mb package? :D
22:48.29ckknightevl: that 10 MiB package is now about 5 MiB.
22:48.34ckknightworking on making it smaller
22:48.47ckknightbut you need Cartographer, Carographer-Notes, and Cartographer-Mining
22:48.57ckknightgranted, all together, it's smaller than Gatherer
22:49.24hanzzonckknight; I still don't see the changes you made to the Cartographer_Import's mining stuff live on wowace?
22:49.32ckknighthanzzon: odd.
22:49.39ckknighthanzzon: it should be on /files/
22:49.44ckknightgah, stop distracting me!
22:49.54hanzzonit's still release 21752...
22:49.59nymbia~distract ckknight
22:50.01purlACTION puts on a red wig and saunters past ckknight with a cold beer in her hand.  "Hello, sailor!  Wanna go for a ride?"
22:51.25neeneenymbia - Dreadmist mask and er.. I am not sure what the other was
22:51.48nymbialol weird. is it a really new server?
22:51.52evlckknight: lol that was a lot of modules, I hope it works with just Professions :)
22:52.18ckknightevl: Cartographer, Cartographer-Notes, Cartographer-Professions, Cartographer-Mining
22:52.21ckknightthat's what you need
22:52.23ckknightjust get that.
22:52.44evlaha, why do I need notes?
22:52.57ckknighthow else would you make mining notes?
22:53.03evldunno, with bread
22:53.12ckknightdon't be a jackass, I'm not in the mood.
22:53.21neeneeNope, not a new server
22:53.38nymbianeenee: no idea then.
22:53.53nymbia~blame dreadmist hat
22:53.54purlACTION blames dreadmist hat (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
22:54.14evlckknight: sorry ;) i'll try that now!
22:54.21nymbiaevl: the things created by the mining module are notes.  can't display notes without the notes module.
22:54.28evlaha
22:57.52sylvanaarnymbia: i added the server info from this am
22:58.17nymbiaserver info?  whereat?
22:58.18evlckknight: working great, thanks :D
22:58.30sylvanaarGloryLib: Loaded current server info. Derived from: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/battlegroups/realmNames.js
22:58.30sylvanaarAdded Functions:
22:58.30sylvanaarGetServerType(servName), GetBattlegroupName(servName), GetBattlegroupNum(servName)
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22:59.02ckknightsylvanaar: what about locality, difference between EU and US and Asia servers?
22:59.28Goebck- any way to show herbs on the minimap and not on the big map?
22:59.31BankZhow many ppl here use agUF in raids?
22:59.36ckknightGoeb: no
22:59.41sylvanaarckknight: US servers only are in there, mosly cause i dont know the EU url
22:59.46Goebd'oh
23:00.02WogroiplBankZ: I'm trying to
23:00.13ckknighthttp://www.wow-europe.com/pvp/battlegrounds/battlegroups/realmNames.js
23:00.14ckknightmaybe
23:00.19BankZi cant get the buffs to look right
23:00.28nymbiasylvanaar: the trick is that the names overlap, so you need a GetLocale() in there
23:00.40Wogroiplthe only problem I have is that I can't sort the raid by class
23:00.41BankZso they dont overlay the frame next to them
23:00.48Bver_BankZ, i used to, then i realised having raid frames up is a waiste of space... warlock <==
23:01.30BankZIm a healer
23:01.32BankZI need them
23:01.44Wogroiplme too
23:01.48Bver_have you tried sRaidFrames, or perfeect raid
23:02.31WogroiplI tried perfectraid, and it was....perfect ;)
23:02.31Wogroiplbut it has not been updated yet
23:02.31BankZyeah, I love sRaidFrames
23:02.31BankZjust was hoping to have just one addon
23:02.39Wogroipl<= same
23:02.41snurre-geez
23:02.51sylvanaarnymbia: yeah, but its a start at least
23:02.54snurre-SecureUnitWatchFrame is using more than 10mb ui mem atm
23:02.58nymbiasylvanaar: yeah, for sure.
23:03.17BankZis there any addon that lets me move the default party and player frames?
23:03.37*** join/#wowace Sun\Nether (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-59-245.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr)
23:03.41WogroiplCT_movableParty?
23:03.43Bver_visor2, and visor2GUI most likely
23:03.47nymbiaBankZ: KC_Mobility should do it
23:03.50sylvanaar- /shared/wow-com/includes-client/battlegroups/en/realmNames.js
23:04.29snurre-which addon might be using SecureUnitWatchFrame btw?
23:04.36snurre-it's eating mem like a mofo atm
23:05.18sylvanaarthier list contains extra data (the language)
23:05.24hanzzonckknight; in regard to Cartographer; "Instance maps are wonderful. Your location actually appears on the map!" this quote is from http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6403&so=&page=3 is this true? cuz I don't see myself on the instance maps?
23:05.42ckknightit's not true.
23:05.50ckknightat least, to my knowledge.
23:05.55hanzzonhehe
23:05.56ckknighthaven't tested.
23:05.59nymbialol
23:06.16hanzzonbecause that was one of those things like, yea, I'd love that... then I go check and no ;-)
23:06.17ckknightit'd be funny if it did, though.
23:06.17ckknightbut quite unlikely
23:06.28nymbiackknight: it might almost be possible by comparing the minimap texture to the wmo textures
23:06.33hanzzonbut read his reply, it will make you a happy developer ;-)
23:06.45ckknightnymbia: nah, can't access the minimap's current texture.
23:06.49Finhttp://pgl.yoyo.org/wow/bits/servers-as-a-php-array.txt
23:06.49nymbiaah
23:07.23hanzzonckknight; the comment by "sardukar74" on that page ;-)
23:07.32ckknightmeh
23:08.13snurre-http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3157/secureunitwatchframenp2.jpg
23:08.27snurre-only a few minutes after logging in and entering AV
23:09.53Bver_you like those round buttons ? ;p
23:10.09WogroiplDoes anyone have an idea how to sort the raidframes of agUF by class, while not making a different group for each class?
23:10.15snurre-cycircled is much <3
23:10.24Bver_eww!
23:10.27Guest1345160766there are people that don't use cycircled?
23:11.12Wogroiplhehe I would miss those buttons a lot with my mouse :P
23:11.12Bver_i have eevery thing hotkeyed... so i use bindpad
23:11.12Tornhoofhmm whats that secureunitwatchframe?
23:11.18snurre-no idea
23:11.21snurre-started today
23:12.17nymbiasome addons probably making an assload of em
23:12.24nymbiadid you add anything recently?
23:12.42snurre-nothing
23:12.45snurre-only updated from WAU
23:13.08snurre-or, i added BattlegroundFu, but disabled that and had same problem
23:13.11Tornhoofhmm raidframes or unitframes
23:13.16snurre-thats aguf
23:13.44BankZwhats the difference in ElkBuffBar and ElkBuffBars?
23:14.00snurre-old and new (not working, i think)
23:14.19BankZBuffBar is new?
23:14.24Wogroiplthe one with s is working
23:14.33snurre-it is? ooh, neat
23:15.11BankZI am running ElkBuffBar
23:15.15BankZand it seems to be working
23:15.24snurre-thats the old, same as me
23:15.29snurre-its working
23:15.42snurre-last time i heard elkbuffbarS wasnt though, but perhaps it is no
23:15.43snurre-w
23:15.49BankZboth were updated this month
23:16.08Bver_here is my non-button ui! http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6590/bveruisc5.jpg
23:16.40snurre-i prefer having buttons visible
23:16.55*** join/#wowace Gnarfoz_ (i=smallbra@unaffiliated/gnarfoz)
23:16.55Wogroiplno buttons and still a full screen
23:17.01Amadeome too, because there are too many spells to really hotkey
23:17.18Bver_only on the bottom, but image if i have all my skills showing
23:17.25Bver_imagine*
23:17.33Amadeoand I generally use a lot of extra spells
23:17.36CIA-1703benumbed * r22789 10MusicStream/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
23:17.36CIA-17MusicStream:
23:17.36CIA-17- Seperated Menu a bit, more to come.
23:17.36CIA-17- Show Current, Prev, Next Channel in corresponding tooltips.
23:17.52snurre-listed under events, sorted by memory in teksupport, BugGrabber ha used 27592 KiB o.O
23:17.55snurre-thats kinda weird
23:18.08CIA-1703pastamancer * r22790 10Grid/GridRange.lua: Grid: trigger 'Grid_RangesUpdated' when GridRange updates its list of ranges. Also added GridRange:AvailableRangeIterator()
23:18.14Fisker-Fisker- * r22790 MusicStream/ (MusicStream.lua):
23:18.16Fisker-MusicStream:
23:18.21Fisker-- Added korean pop channels
23:18.23Fisker-yees
23:18.26Benumbeddiaf
23:18.27nymbialolol
23:18.33Amadeosnurre-: is it saving errors?
23:18.49BankZso is there any other differences in ebb and ebbS ?
23:18.54snurre-yeah
23:19.00snurre-loads about tekSupport and aguf
23:19.16Fisker-nice
23:19.30Fisker-so WoWaceupdater supports? SVN :O
23:19.30WogroiplBankZ, no idea I just downloaded one and it worked
23:19.33snurre-[2006/12/31 00:19:00-139-x1]: AceEvent-2.0-22135 (Ace2):433: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'mem' (a nil value) o.O
23:19.51Fisker-or just knows not to use them?
23:20.08nymbiaFisker-: skips svn working directories.
23:20.23Fisker-well that's nice too :P
23:21.01BankZu guys use clearfonts?
23:21.41*** join/#wowace Wobble (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au)
23:22.40snurre-Ace2 has been blocked blabla
23:22.48TinhayHmm, why was the Gmail2 thead locked? did i miss something?
23:22.56snurre-i think BT3 is causing some of this
23:23.30snurre-[2006/12/31 00:22:00-139-x92]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'aUFtarget:Show()'.
23:23.30snurre-[2006/12/31 00:22:00-139-x6]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'ShapeshiftBarFrame:SetPoint()'.(tail call): ?:
23:23.43snurre-and loads of other aUF functions
23:25.25nymbiasnurre-: uh.. whats the first error?
23:25.40BankZwhats the slash command for ebbS  ?
23:25.47BankZi was using ebb
23:25.53CIA-1703benumbed * r22791 10MusicStream/MusicStream.lua: MusicStream: Took out soemthing I was debugging.
23:25.58AmadeoTinhay: Good question
23:26.13snurre-first error i have is 2006/12/31 00:22:05-139-x1]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'ShapeshiftButton6:Hide()'.(tail call): ?:
23:26.54nymbiathere's a shapeshift button 6?  that doesnt seem right
23:27.09neeneeflight form?
23:27.23nevcairielthere are up to 10 buttons
23:27.32snurre-http://ace.pastey.net/4211
23:27.40nevcairielyou can have 6 starting at lvl 68 with flight form, yeah
23:28.04kebinusansnurre-, yeah Ive been getting a ton of those
23:28.07nymbiasnurre-: that's good ole fashioned taint.
23:29.07snurre-http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5374/secureunitwatchframe2mw4.jpg now :(
23:29.09BankZhow do you move things with KC Mobility?
23:29.23nymbialemme hop on and see if im getting it too, could be BT3.
23:29.23snurre-that frame thingy is crazy
23:29.31nymbiaBankZ: hold control and alt
23:31.01BankZand ctrl and alt and try and drag?
23:31.12kebinusanthing is I dont get the normal would you like to disable this addonthing with that error
23:31.27AmadeoI can't log on to Skullcrusher, it stops at "Connected"
23:31.39BankZnymbia: and ctrl and alt and try and drag?
23:32.05nymbiaBankZ: hold control and alt and mouse around.  if you can move something, it'll blink.
23:33.28kenlyricAmadeo: welcome to my secret lair on skullcrusher mountain.
23:34.10BankZcool, thanks
23:34.12Amadeokenlyric: :(
23:34.12BankZthats neat
23:34.32BankZyeah, doesnt look like ebbS works to me
23:34.49kenlyricum, it doesn't work.
23:35.08kenlyricI don't think it even loads anything.
23:35.26Wogroiplone of the 2 works for me
23:35.37kenlyricebb works
23:36.42BankZebb yes
23:36.52BankZnot the one that ends with a S
23:36.57BankZBarS
23:37.16CIA-1703adirelle 07adirelle * r22792 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers/ (7 files):
23:37.16CIA-17SorrenTimers: (Adirelle's branch)
23:37.16CIA-17- batch typo fixes,
23:37.16CIA-17- fixed all wrong things after some smoke tests.
23:37.29HjalteHehe. Does Cartographer come with notes for herbs?
23:37.31Fisker-http://www.blakeross.com/2006/12/25/google-tips/ <-lol the irony
23:37.40sylvanaaractually nowhats the format for string:format?
23:37.41hastesnurre-: did you get those errors with or without tekSupport enabled?
23:37.50snurre-both
23:37.55BankZIs there anyway I can remove the buff name with EBB?
23:37.57hastewarmup enabled also?
23:37.58snurre-installed teksupport to figure out wtf is going on
23:38.02snurre-nope, no warmup
23:38.05snurre-ill get it i guess
23:38.26WogroiplHjalte: no, but there is an addon to import the gatherer database if you still have it
23:38.33snurre-it really feels like it's aguf
23:38.46snurre-the ToT frame is going black from time to time and it only lags in combat
23:38.50WogroiplI heard from some ppl that it didn't work tho
23:38.53Quetzigetting similar errors here
23:39.02HjalteWogroipl: It's just that my felwood is covered with notes for herbs.. And i have never been herbing in felwood :)
23:39.13Wogroiplheh
23:39.48hastesnurre-: just that tekSupport taints, and so does Warmup
23:40.19Quetzisnurre: have you got errors from glorylib right at the start? maybe thats the cause?
23:40.27snurre-nope, no errors at start
23:40.33snurre-only after i get into AV and start fighting
23:40.56kenlyricHjalte: are they real herbs, or felwood plants?
23:41.13BankZIs there anyway I can remove the buff name with elkbuffbar??
23:41.14Hjaltekenlyric: real herbs
23:41.35Hjaltethe felwood plants are also displayed
23:42.00WogroiplBankZ: I don't think so
23:42.51WogroiplI don't see a /command for it anyway
23:43.48sylvanaarok i added the EU servers, but im not sure what to do with em
23:44.50BankZalso is there anyway to make it fad left to right?
23:45.11CIA-1703sylvanaar * r22793 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: EU servers added, but not referenced yet
23:45.19BankZlooks silly on right side
23:45.31snurre-hm, disabling teksupport and checking now then i guess
23:45.36Fisker-what are they being used for sylvanaar ?
23:45.38Wogroiplmight be /ebb invert true
23:46.48sylvanaarGetServerType(servName), GetBattlegroupName(servName), GetBattlegroupNum(servName)
23:47.13BankZhmmm, that doesnt seem to do anything
23:47.17sylvanaarServerType = pvp, pve, rppvp, rp
23:47.29WogroiplBankZ: nope that will probably make it grow from the bottom
23:47.55BankZI switched the icon to the right side
23:48.02sylvanaaryeah, glorylib was giving me errors too
23:48.05Wogroipldid that work?
23:48.06BankZjust doesnt change the fase
23:48.12Wogroiplah :/
23:48.14BankZ*fade
23:48.35BankZalso wish I could hid the name cuz I like the bars short
23:50.28WogroiplI wish I could sort my raidframes by class, I might not even go back to Perfectraid when it's updated
23:52.02Amadeohaha, this HUD looks crazy - http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6655-HUDtastic.html
23:52.41kebinusaninteresting
23:53.10Amadeo71k
23:56.12Mikmaheh
23:56.14Mikmanice hud
23:56.46AmadeoUses 167K for me in game
23:56.47Fisker-http://www.blakeross.com/2006/12/25/google-tips/ <-lol the irony
23:56.48Fisker-btw

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