| 00:01.15 | neenee | Is there an ETA on the next patch? |
| 00:01.40 | Daemona | 1 week after ptr goes down |
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| 00:01.48 | neenee | ok |
| 00:02.12 | Thrae | Druids getting nice buffs again |
| 00:02.30 | jkw | Thrae: What do they get this time, Warlock form? |
| 00:02.43 | Amadeo | More Druid buffs? What a joke :P |
| 00:02.48 | Amadeo | Like they need more! |
| 00:02.50 | Thrae | jkw: No, I said BUFFs :D |
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| 00:03.19 | jkw | Thrae: :P Warlocks is teh shit! |
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| 00:04.34 | Thrae | A few lesser-used talents are going to be combined with others, and some talents are having their required points reduced |
| 00:04.35 | jkw | ._. |
| 00:04.50 | Thrae | And Bear Form is being retooled for BC, resulting in a slight HP decrease (150HP for most people) in return for an armour buff (around 1.5k armour buff for most people) |
| 00:04.59 | Amadeo | bleh |
| 00:05.05 | jkw | o.O |
| 00:05.05 | Amadeo | Most overpowered class in TBC getting more buffs |
| 00:05.16 | Amadeo | I don't like it! |
| 00:05.21 | jkw | I'm just glad they removed the usage of pots in forms. |
| 00:05.24 | Amadeo | I guess a month or so into release and they'll start nerfing |
| 00:05.28 | jkw | And not to mention Thistle tea |
| 00:05.35 | jkw | That was like ... !"#ยค%@ |
| 00:05.38 | Thrae | Tranquality is also being retooled, making it actually useful as a group heal, and, perhaps best of all, the casting delay caused by Barkskin (-25% damage) is being removed. |
| 00:07.01 | Thrae | Barskin basically gave us Mail armour while in Caster form and made our spells uinterruptable for the 10 seconds it lasts, and now the casting delay effect it caused is being removed, while its cooldown is being doubled from 1 minute to 2 minutes. |
| 00:08.59 | Thrae | Barkskin is a trainable skill, not a talent. Although the cooldown increase is going to make it less effective for Hurricane spammage, but eh. |
| 00:09.06 | jkw | Only thing I still can't understand how the druid specific weapons can have like ~100 spell damage and ~400ap? |
| 00:09.30 | Thrae | jkw: You mean +Attack Power specifically? |
| 00:09.38 | jkw | 300* |
| 00:09.46 | jkw | yeah |
| 00:10.08 | Thrae | Those are +Attack Power in Cat and Dire Bear, where our equipped weapon doesn't matter except for its stats. |
| 00:10.27 | jkw | Like the end of dreams, 13 stamina, 13 intellect, 95 spell damage and healing, 305 ap |
| 00:10.54 | Thrae | So we could have equipped a 300DPS weapon and it wouldn't matter for how much damage our Cat and Bear forms do |
| 00:11.15 | jkw | Hm, that's true |
| 00:11.22 | jkw | Didn't think of that :D |
| 00:11.53 | Thrae | It's Blizzard's answer to scalability for our melee DPS |
| 00:11.58 | ag` | what's the slash command to set target as the focus target? |
| 00:12.06 | ag` | meh |
| 00:12.08 | Thrae | Every other class scales normally |
| 00:12.11 | ag` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.17 | Thrae | ag`: /focus target ? |
| 00:12.35 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.32 | Amadeo | Thrae: Druid DPS in TBC is crazy |
| 00:14.16 | Thrae | Learning Mangle also gives a permenant +30% damage increase to Shred (making it viable as Raid DPS again) |
| 00:14.42 | jkw | o.o |
| 00:14.46 | Amadeo | Yeah, level 70 Druids hit 2000 damage Shreds already |
| 00:14.57 | jkw | And I thought Improved LotP was overpowered ... |
| 00:15.01 | ag` | SetBindingMacro, does it take a macro text or only the name of a macro? |
| 00:15.04 | Thrae | Mangle is the last talent in the Feral tree |
| 00:15.28 | Daemona | which is good :) |
| 00:15.33 | Thrae | jkw: Actually, that's the only nerf in the next patch -- ILOTP is going from 3 ranks to 2, without an increase of what it gives per rank. |
| 00:15.33 | Daemona | mangle is just mucho oucho |
| 00:15.42 | Amadeo | oh wait, Shred is backstab |
| 00:15.48 | Amadeo | what's the Sinister Strike attack for Druids? |
| 00:15.49 | Thrae | So max of 4% now instead of 6% |
| 00:15.57 | Thrae | Amadeo: What does that do again? |
| 00:16.07 | Amadeo | just gain 1 combo point |
| 00:16.16 | Amadeo | does some damage |
| 00:16.19 | Daemona | 1 combo style that doesnt require positioning |
| 00:16.23 | Thrae | Claw |
| 00:16.39 | Amadeo | hm, iirc, a level 70 Druid was clawing for around 450's (crit) |
| 00:16.45 | Amadeo | this is with blues/greens though |
| 00:16.49 | Thrae | Mangle doesn't require positioning either, neither does Rake (bleed effect) |
| 00:16.50 | Daemona | can bloodelves be druids? :X |
| 00:17.13 | Amadeo | no |
| 00:17.25 | Daemona | pity, would help me deciding on what to reroll ;) |
| 00:17.31 | Amadeo | Tauren is better anyway |
| 00:17.41 | Daemona | bloodelf rogue or druid (anything) |
| 00:17.55 | Amadeo | BE Druid would be pointless in comparison to Tauren |
| 00:18.08 | Daemona | naah, its the style question for horde :D |
| 00:18.27 | Amadeo | bleh, style is stupid :P |
| 00:18.46 | Amadeo | That's like for The Sims or something :P |
| 00:19.15 | Zicon | amadeo: You haven't actually played the sims, have you? |
| 00:19.38 | Amadeo | Zicon: No, my friend did though, she met lots of guys there and slept with em :P |
| 00:20.07 | Thrae | Cat abilities are Claw (straight damage), Rake (small damage + bleed), Ferocious Bite (finisher damage per combo point + extra damage per energy), Rip (finisher better bleed per combo point), Shred (+% of regular attack damage, must be done from behind), Pounce (stun + bleed, must be stealthed), Ravage(+% of regular attack damage, must be behind and stealthed) |
| 00:20.11 | Zicon | ... thanks, that's more than I ever needed to know. |
| 00:20.59 | ag` | anyway I can bind focus unit to a keyboard button so that it works when I go into combat? |
| 00:21.13 | Thrae | Mangle (+% of regular attack damage and debuff which increases bleed damage for 10 seconds, talent), and Maim (inconpacitates for 6 seconds, allows re-stealth in PvP, does not break on bleed or DoT, requires Level 62) |
| 00:21.38 | Fisker- | overpowered :( |
| 00:21.38 | Thrae | Come TBC, Druids will be able to stunlock with Pounce + Maim in PvP |
| 00:21.54 | Amadeo | They can already 100-0 people in TBC |
| 00:21.58 | Amadeo | they really don't need more buffs |
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| 00:23.03 | Amadeo | I don't understand Blizzard's balancing sometimes |
| 00:23.19 | Amadeo | They nerf classes due to overpowered gear, and then they buff classes because not all players are good at playing them |
| 00:23.28 | Thrae | Well, you can't always look at it from 1v1 standards |
| 00:23.57 | nife | You aren't supposed to then bliz adds the arenas which are practically 1v1's |
| 00:24.11 | Smeltn | anyone having the problem with cycircled running in serenity, not being round buttons on the pet bar? |
| 00:24.13 | Thrae | Well, true |
| 00:24.19 | Amadeo | There's no such thing as balanced for group PvP, because there is no defined group |
| 00:24.31 | Tain | That's why I say eliminate PvP! |
| 00:24.40 | Amadeo | hehe |
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| 00:25.43 | Amadeo | Also, for example...Tseric tells Warriors they should require a healer in order to function in PvP, because the game is balanced around group PvP...then he went to the Priest forums and said they were supposed to be balanced for 1v1 |
| 00:26.14 | Smeltn | Tseric has gotten pretty useless |
| 00:26.28 | Smeltn | and ALOT of people are pissed at him.. lol |
| 00:26.32 | Amadeo | I only really like it when Kalgan replies |
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| 00:26.38 | Smeltn | same |
| 00:26.59 | Thrae | We should have Fangtooth back -- then he'll say that Priests are, ultimately, ment to melt faces. |
| 00:27.10 | Amadeo | Tseric just says stuff, regardless if he knows what he's talking about or not...he tries to cover stuff with BS statements to smooth things over, but it makes stuff worse when everyone knows he's wrong :P |
| 00:28.02 | Amadeo | I'd like to see an employee dedicated to a specific class for balance, or a team leader type thing that they did in DAoC |
| 00:28.44 | Tain | It's a nice idea but it really didn't mean anything in DAoC either. |
| 00:28.51 | Tain | Just better PR for each class. |
| 00:29.20 | Amadeo | I think it helped out, and at least people had better consolidation of issues...at least it beats a bunch of people saying "FU Blizzard U SUX!" on the forums :) |
| 00:29.37 | Eej | I say we should clone Paul Barttnet and make him the rep for every class |
| 00:29.52 | [Cu]Werik | Barnett:) |
| 00:29.56 | Eej | gah |
| 00:29.57 | Amadeo | I miss early DAoC, I hope that Warhammer is similar |
| 00:29.58 | Eej | :< |
| 00:30.02 | Tain | I resolved myself long ago to ignoring 99% of the people on any game forum. |
| 00:30.13 | kergoth | s/on any game forum.// |
| 00:30.21 | Amadeo | I'm still impressed to this day by DAoC's launch...best launch to date of any MMOG |
| 00:30.25 | Tain | No matter the game there are always going to be a huge amount of people bitching about nothing. |
| 00:30.27 | Tain | haha true kergoth |
| 00:30.39 | Tain | Well |
| 00:30.41 | Amadeo | Yeah that's true |
| 00:30.50 | [Cu]Werik | Though, they are keeping the scripting language under sever locks |
| 00:30.51 | Tain | One could argue that Asheron's Call was the smoothest launch. |
| 00:30.53 | [Cu]Werik | seven* |
| 00:31.06 | Tain | However, one could also argue that Asheron's Call's launch was so smooth because there was no content. :) |
| 00:31.11 | kenlyric | actuallly, what tseric said on the warrior forums and priest forums is true. |
| 00:31.14 | Amadeo | Tain: To be honest, I don't even remember...I played beta AC and hated it |
| 00:31.24 | Amadeo | Yeah, you walk around and it was barren |
| 00:31.26 | Eej | I remember arrowing a rabbit |
| 00:31.30 | kenlyric | some classes can hold their own 1vs1, some can't. Which is why this game will never be balanced for 1vs1 pvp. |
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| 00:31.33 | Eej | and the crazy portals |
| 00:31.56 | Eej | every class can hold their own 1v1, not every spec can, however |
| 00:32.24 | [Cu]Werik | every equally equipped class can hold their own in 1v1 |
| 00:32.58 | kenlyric | not in this game. |
| 00:33.02 | Tain | The problem is that certain classes have more benefit than others in 1v1 when you have people of top skill levels. |
| 00:33.11 | kenlyric | spec matters, especially for warriors and healers. |
| 00:33.24 | Amadeo | Tain: Correct! |
| 00:33.49 | DrZoot | since when did the wowace files site start using intellitext add's? |
| 00:34.09 | [Cu]Werik | well, to be honest, it's already funny talking about pvp in an rpg game |
| 00:34.35 | Daemona | no werik, pvp is so much specc dependant |
| 00:34.48 | Daemona | or do you want to tell me a def-tank stands a chance vs a fire mage? |
| 00:35.14 | [Cu]Werik | No, I'm trying to say that after all, it's based on 'random' happenings |
| 00:35.17 | Tain | I really wouldn't blink if they eliminated PvP entirely, BUT I know there's a big draw for it from a lot of people. |
| 00:36.53 | Boobies4u | what happends if you take the new dranei boat in darkshore? |
| 00:37.01 | [Cu]Werik | You can be the best pvp player ever, when you miss 3 times in a row or just simply dont crit when you should |
| 00:37.01 | Boobies4u | it comes and goes like the other boats |
| 00:37.05 | Boobies4u | where do you zone when u take it? |
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| 00:39.31 | [Cu]Werik | And I also doubt you can make an mmorpg balanced for 1v1 combat, because that basically kills the whole concept of being MM |
| 00:40.25 | Tain | It's difficult to do, which is why I'd rather see the focus be on PvE. |
| 00:40.37 | Tain | You do have to do things differently when you worry about PvP and PvE. |
| 00:41.33 | [Cu]Werik | You just can't balance classes with so many abilities |
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| 00:42.17 | Thrae | The thing about Druids -- while we can be "overpowered", it's not easy at all. Not compared to Warriors who can get insane white damage, Rogues who can mash 2-3 buttons FTW, and Shamans who have high white damage along with powerful spells |
| 00:43.17 | Thrae | If nothing else, you have to take into consideration the amount of skill it requires to get a class to become "overpowered". If you factor in a skillful Druid vs a non-skillful Druid, I think the class is pretty balanced. |
| 00:43.22 | Amadeo | Thrae: I agree that it's harder for Druids, but I don't think it's fair to make it easy for Druids that suck while making the good Druids insanely overpowered |
| 00:43.52 | [Cu]Werik | I wouldnt say its easy for warriors either |
| 00:44.03 | Daemona | or rogues |
| 00:44.06 | [Cu]Werik | they have 0 surviveability |
| 00:44.09 | Amadeo | It's only easy for Warriors if they outgear their opponent by a large margin |
| 00:44.09 | Thrae | Well, if you take into account that most people suck, I don't think Druids are overpowered by any means for the majority of fights |
| 00:44.30 | haste | also , shamans don't have high white damage (they almost only have white damage) AND powerful spells |
| 00:44.41 | haste | it's either a mix of both, or one of them |
| 00:44.52 | Daemona | since the patch i run into so freaking many feral druids in BGs and i just cant stand any version but the heal version in 1on1 |
| 00:44.57 | Amadeo | Yeah, Enhancement Shamans have practically no mana |
| 00:44.59 | Thrae | haste: I consider Earth and Frost shock to be pretty decent spells vs most opponents |
| 00:45.04 | Amadeo | My level 40 Shaman has like 1500 mana |
| 00:45.07 | Tain | I just don't go into BGs. |
| 00:45.42 | [Cu]Werik | My paladin rocks rocked and will rock in pvp:P |
| 00:46.11 | Thrae | Warriors are easy to play for most people, that's why they haven't gotten a lot of buffs recently. You have to take into account the MAJORITY of players. |
| 00:46.18 | Daemona | gief undead paladin for "nerf horde" cries pls ;) |
| 00:47.07 | [Cu]Werik | I'm playig it since longer than release and though I want some change now in tbc, all I can think of is rerolling a be paladin:P |
| 00:47.12 | Thrae | When it comes down to a skilled player vs a skilled player, these buffs don't make THAT much of a difference. Skill is the biggest factor in the equation, even above gear (of end-game). |
| 00:47.37 | Thrae | [Cu]Werik: Funny, I'm thinking of making a Shaman, since I, of course, play a Druid :D |
| 00:47.55 | [Cu]Werik | I just change sides:) |
| 00:48.15 | Thrae | Paladins are too heal-mode, I'm already heal-mode with my Druid |
| 00:48.22 | Thrae | Despite being a Feral Druid |
| 00:48.22 | [Cu]Werik | alliance sucks, I can't stand these pink fluffy hail to elune thingies |
| 00:48.32 | Daemona | thrae nothing to argue there, the problem are things ingame that are possible that make your opponent have NO CHANCE to even react or interact or interupt or anything |
| 00:48.43 | Thrae | Well my RL family likes Alliance, so I have no choice |
| 00:48.56 | [Cu]Werik | Ofc you have, play horde;P |
| 00:48.57 | Thrae | Daemona: That'd be Rogues then ;) |
| 00:49.13 | Daemona | which requires 1 specc |
| 00:49.15 | Thrae | Bah, Family > Games ;) |
| 00:49.16 | Daemona | usable for 1 cause |
| 00:49.22 | Daemona | 1vs1 pwnage |
| 00:49.27 | Tain | Family are kind of a pain in the ass |
| 00:49.27 | Daemona | namely duels |
| 00:49.36 | Thrae | Daemona: Arena |
| 00:49.44 | Daemona | but now have a warlock, let him throw 2-4 dots at you |
| 00:49.47 | Daemona | and if you cant heal yourself |
| 00:49.48 | [Cu]Werik | Let's talk about hunters |
| 00:49.50 | Zicon | thrae: You obviously have a nicer family than mine. |
| 00:49.50 | [Cu]Werik | :P |
| 00:49.52 | Daemona | you are dead, no way out |
| 00:50.00 | Thrae | I hate Warlock fear |
| 00:50.06 | Daemona | even if you can kill the lock |
| 00:50.08 | Daemona | you are dead |
| 00:50.15 | Zicon | (if any family members of mine played WoW, I would PvP) |
| 00:50.25 | Daemona | i had a guildmate throw 2 of his 4 dots at me randomly in duels |
| 00:50.43 | Daemona | even the combination siphon life + another one was enough to chew through 4.3k hp |
| 00:51.01 | [Cu]Werik | curse of agony? |
| 00:51.01 | kergoth | someone should add an option to Capping to move the objective frame |
| 00:51.07 | Daemona | now add a felguard for intercept stun |
| 00:51.09 | Thrae | Which reminds me, I need to find out if Predatory Instincts, a Tier 5 talent for Druids that increases your chance to resist "Area of Effect" spells by up to 15%, works on AoE Fear. I'm worried it only works on channeled AoE spells |
| 00:51.13 | Daemona | and you got a really overpowered class ;) |
| 00:51.33 | Thrae | If it does, then Feral Druids can possibly get a +30% chance to resist AoE Fear and Stun |
| 00:51.48 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know, I always tore warlocks apart :P |
| 00:52.51 | Daemona | na sorry, if you dont lock down a lock, you are lost as rogue... you cant survive a deathcoil, dot, dot, fear, dot, dot, fear (do i have to cast a shadowbolt or is target dead already) combo of war lock ;) |
| 00:53.17 | Thrae | Druids without Feral Charge will also have a tricky time with Warlocks |
| 00:53.39 | [Cu]Werik | Though, as I said I'm not a rogue;P |
| 00:53.41 | Thrae | Well, if they have Felhunter out, other Warlocks are easy |
| 00:55.56 | Fisker- | buff rogues |
| 00:56.02 | Fisker- | must be done |
| 00:56.40 | Thrae | By the way, got the G15 for Christmas :) |
| 00:56.47 | [Cu]Werik | Every class can be a pain in the ass if specced, equipped and played well |
| 00:57.16 | [Cu]Werik | of course not every spec is viable in pvp, but come on, thats the whole point of speccing |
| 00:57.19 | Tain | Yay G15 |
| 00:57.43 | Kirkburn | Yay G15 too |
| 00:57.56 | Daemona | grz on g15 :) |
| 00:58.17 | Daemona | was too lazy to buy one for myself, i just stick too much to my belkin n52 on my laptop anyway, no use for a g15 |
| 00:58.53 | ZOAS|Naxx | I tried the G15 out when I got my new system back in March, and didn't like it. Entirely too big and bulky. I like my Saitek Eclipse. |
| 00:59.01 | Tain | Yeah if I had gotten an N52 (or the like) I probably wouldn't get a G15. |
| 00:59.11 | Tain | But I like it. |
| 00:59.18 | Tain | Of course I do actually use the LCD as well. |
| 00:59.37 | Kemayo | It's very wide. |
| 00:59.40 | Daemona | i fear i have to get a replacement though... my d-pad doesnt work well anymore after 1 year of use... lifetime guarantee ftw :) |
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| 01:01.44 | Kemayo | What're you using the LCD for, Tain? |
| 01:01.56 | Kemayo | (And are there any nifty addons out there which do things for the LCD?) |
| 01:02.41 | Thrae | Tain: I don't see the point in the N52. You'd keep having to switch between it and your regular keyboard when you want to type. |
| 01:03.27 | Funkeh` | omg progress |
| 01:03.28 | Tain | Kemayo: http://www.lcdstudio.com software that lets you create just about any damn thing you want to show on the LCD |
| 01:03.35 | Funkeh` | sayclub is using utf-8 signature |
| 01:04.20 | Tain | I can see using the N52, you just have to position it and adjust your play to make use of it. |
| 01:04.32 | Daemona | Thrae the point is, i dont like playing with my laptop keyboard and i mostly use voice-com ;) |
| 01:04.42 | phreaky | I want a G15 slim, like my flat logitech keyboard :) |
| 01:05.05 | Thrae | Ah true, I could see the N52 for laptops |
| 01:05.16 | Tain | I want a G15 with mechanical buckling spring keys. |
| 01:05.17 | Thrae | But you could also use the G15 with a Laptop too ;) |
| 01:05.20 | Daemona | and its more handy to carry around a g15 ;) |
| 01:05.38 | Daemona | then a g15 of course... |
| 01:05.44 | phreaky | http://www.metaleks.lv/images/products/15/40/large/UltraX%20Keyboard%20Black%20%20Silver1.jpg <-- is the shit! :) |
| 01:06.42 | Daemona | phreaky |
| 01:06.45 | Daemona | you want teh shit? |
| 01:06.47 | Daemona | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/keyb_001.jpg |
| 01:07.09 | phreaky | yeah that one is hot :) |
| 01:07.10 | Tain | None of that Optimus vaporware please. |
| 01:07.13 | phreaky | Way over my budget though =( |
| 01:07.35 | Daemona | always fun to post :D |
| 01:07.45 | Daemona | Tain i honestly would pay the 200 bucks for it |
| 01:08.04 | Daemona | cause thats really a piece of hardware that would be worth it. |
| 01:08.23 | DrZoot | i cant see how usefull it would be in a game like wow, the feedback needed to make the keys useful doesnt exist |
| 01:08.39 | ag` | Apple keyboard... 20 bucks? |
| 01:08.55 | DrZoot | to make it really awesome you would somehow need a way to export keys with their textures |
| 01:09.03 | phreaky | It's beautiful!! :) |
| 01:09.19 | Tain | I'm surprised, usually any keyboard discussion gets the Optimus tossed out there quickly, as well as http://www.daskeyboard.com/ |
| 01:11.04 | kergoth | hmm wasnt someone working on a simple candybar for the 5 second rule? cant seem to recall the name of the addon |
| 01:11.30 | haste | can you really make a simple add on for that? |
| 01:11.39 | Thrae | kergoth: I saw it in www.wowace.com/files |
| 01:12.49 | phreaky | I so want someone to make an addon with a posibility to add words to a list, and then ignore whispers (and maybe all other channels and /s /y) that contain those words and send a reply that those words are ignored .. |
| 01:12.55 | Thrae | http://www.wowace.com/files/NabuFiveSec/NabuFiveSec-r21605.zip |
| 01:13.13 | Thrae | Displays remaining time of the five seconds before mana regeneration is fully activated after casting a spell. (Like the one in FuBar_RegenFu, but movable and sizable.) |
| 01:14.16 | kergoth | Thrae, excellent, thanks |
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| 01:14.44 | kergoth | meh, time to go through my addon set and trim |
| 01:14.48 | kergoth | too much fluff i never use |
| 01:14.56 | Daemona | wtf is evpsets ? |
| 01:14.59 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r22243 10TooltipExchange/TooltipExchange.toc: |
| 01:14.59 | CIA-17 | TooltipExchange |
| 01:14.59 | CIA-17 | - Touch to repack new libraries versions |
| 01:15.00 | haste | mmm, fluff |
| 01:15.01 | ckknight | hey all |
| 01:16.21 | kergoth | Daemona, evpsets shows what you can buy with honor points, afaik |
| 01:16.22 | Daemona | tain whats so great about "daskeyboard" i prefer no typing sounds... |
| 01:16.37 | Daemona | "interesting" ;) |
| 01:16.54 | Thrae | G15 is not a clickety keyboard? Awwww, I like clickety. Oh well, my server still uses one |
| 01:17.02 | Daemona | couldnt i just have a look in my atlasloot? *think* damn, right, i dont use atlasloot *goes and installs* |
| 01:18.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:18.22 | kergoth | for those of us thatve replaced atlasloot with cart, i'm sure evpsets would be useful |
| 01:18.22 | usz | amg get Cartographer! |
| 01:18.39 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r22244 10TooltipExchange/Core.lua: |
| 01:18.39 | CIA-17 | TooltipExchange |
| 01:18.40 | CIA-17 | - Touched wrong file... |
| 01:18.44 | kergoth | though honestly, you could easily do such a thing along the lines of instancenotesloot via notes on the battleground maps :) |
| 01:19.01 | usz | thats too much haxing |
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| 01:19.29 | kergoth | not particularly, both instancenotes and instancenotesloot are simple, conceptually |
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| 01:20.08 | Neebler | ckknight: the instanceloot pane is blocking the boss buttons in most instances. In cartographer |
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| 01:20.24 | ckknight | I blame gnomes. |
| 01:20.35 | usz | i still want to make option to integrate TooltipExchange with instancenotesloot, yet current implementation of it requires me to write separate module that clobnes instance loot with few lines changed |
| 01:20.37 | Neebler | I'm very blameable |
| 01:20.45 | mjc | moo |
| 01:20.56 | Zicon | neebler: But are you whippable? |
| 01:21.07 | Neebler | negative |
| 01:21.23 | Amadeo | there's a video of a Paladin tanking Karazhan, heh |
| 01:23.04 | kergoth | i'd still love to see a close button in the instanceloot tablet, if possible, or even just a line in the tablet that closes it |
| 01:23.09 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r22245 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: re-arranged Naxxramas |
| 01:23.44 | usz | idd the tablet aint most user friendly in there |
| 01:24.16 | ckknight | ~blame Neebler |
| 01:24.26 | purl | ACTION blames Neebler (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 01:25.57 | Ominous | what is the difference between RogueTimerFu.db.profile.Disabled and self.db.profile.Disabled? |
| 01:26.40 | Zicon | neebler: Then you are useless as a scapegoat. Bah. |
| 01:28.23 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22246 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules/HookPoints.lua): Prat: Added a end-of-chain hook point for other mods which need to hook functions that prat does, its untested and disabled in the TOC atm |
| 01:29.18 | sylvanaar | hmm..that went to the wrong branch |
| 01:30.26 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:30.32 | Funkeh` | you meant to branch that? |
| 01:33.20 | Neebler | Isn't the expansion coming out January 16th? |
| 01:33.46 | Tain | Your mom is coming out January 16th. |
| 01:34.24 | Neebler | speaking of coming on peoples moms. yours enjoyed it |
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| 01:36.03 | sylvanaar | Funkeh`: there is a branch |
| 01:36.15 | sylvanaar | i just didnt intend to commit to it |
| 01:36.50 | Funkeh` | always amazes me how the conversation goes from modding to mom's in 1 sentance |
| 01:36.52 | Funkeh` | :p |
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| 01:38.44 | snurre- | hm, freaky.. if this keeps up ill be exalted with AV before i get 8d /played |
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| 01:51.17 | Kaelten-Laptop | Hi |
| 01:51.22 | haste | Hello |
| 01:51.30 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r22247 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:51.30 | CIA-17 | FuBar_RogueTimerFu: |
| 01:51.30 | CIA-17 | - Updated to use parser |
| 01:51.30 | CIA-17 | - May be buggy on non-english clients, please post on forum with results |
| 01:52.26 | Kaelten-Laptop | playing wow on my desktop and running this on my laptop |
| 01:53.57 | haste | I hate it when I manage to lock up my WoW |
| 01:55.00 | Kaelten-Laptop | ya, sometimes it dies randomly on me, that kinda sucks |
| 01:55.11 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r22248 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: re-arrange Blackwing Lair |
| 01:55.12 | haste | I have no idea why it dies on me now |
| 01:55.57 | haste | actually I think I just figured it out |
| 01:56.00 | Kaelten-Laptop | me either |
| 01:56.37 | CIA-17 | 03maudy * r22249 10ClassColors/: ClassColors: Potentially updating externals by committing the directory. Not entirely clear on whether this is the way to do it. |
| 01:56.38 | haste | I think the value I feed my decimalToRoman function is -1 |
| 01:57.02 | haste | which would make it go loop until the client is disconnecte |
| 01:57.09 | haste | s/$/d/ |
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| 01:58.19 | Kaelten-Laptop | dthat'd do it |
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| 02:12.44 | Kaelten-Laptop | Why do people make chars with names like Scrotom? |
| 02:13.00 | Tain | Because they are cool. |
| 02:13.30 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 02:13.34 | Kaelten-Laptop | ... |
| 02:13.45 | Tain | You should see the characters in Lord of the Rings Online. Frodoo Froodo Froodoo Frodoe Frowdo Frodow Frowdow |
| 02:14.21 | Thrae | Night Elf Hunters -- Regoras Legomass Legoman Legoelf Legofas Legofap Legomyass |
| 02:15.23 | Nickenyfiken | I really hope hobbits will be the next race in WoW |
| 02:20.46 | Daemona | uhm what category are those ZG Bijous in the ah? seems i only find em with no tab selected. |
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| 02:22.00 | Gngsk | Daemona, Miscellaneous? |
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| 02:22.38 | Daemona | nope, unless kc_items breaks something ;) *hides* |
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| 02:25.59 | kenlyric | they are misc. |
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| 02:27.47 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r22250 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: re-arrange Molten Core |
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| 02:47.57 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22251 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (4 files): FuBar_RegenFu: Added a 2nd 5sr bar. Code from NabuFiveSec |
| 02:48.51 | Smeltn | ok question |
| 02:49.08 | Smeltn | I have a little eyeball moving button by my minimap |
| 02:49.11 | Smeltn | how do i get rid of it |
| 02:49.41 | Gngsk | leave the lfg queue system |
| 02:53.02 | Smeltn | not in it |
| 02:53.10 | Smeltn | does it every time I log in |
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| 02:59.22 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22252 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (FuBar_Regen.lua FuBar_RegenLocal-enUS.lua): FuBar_RegenFu: Added hint for shift-click toggle lock/unlock of the movable 5sr bar |
| 03:04.04 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22253 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (FuBar_RegenFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_RegenFu: Version 2.0.8 |
| 03:07.28 | sylvanaar | ok, anyone know of a mod which will save the end of bg data? |
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| 03:07.30 | Funkeh` | grrr |
| 03:07.30 | Funkeh` | anyone know whats the cause of this |
| 03:07.30 | Funkeh` | error in commit |
| 03:07.30 | Funkeh` | 'inconsistent line endings' |
| 03:07.30 | Funkeh` | styler even |
| 03:07.30 | greylock | hmmm, using CT and all of a sudden i dont see the immune message anymore when i try to dispel a bubbled pala. |
| 03:07.31 | greylock | SCT* |
| 03:07.50 | kergoth | Funkeh`, you modified it and your editor didnt respect the line ending format of the file |
| 03:08.00 | kergoth | so you've created a file that has an ungodly combination of line ending formats |
| 03:08.03 | Funkeh` | i didn't do anything different |
| 03:08.09 | Funkeh` | i jsut changed the file like always |
| 03:08.16 | Funkeh` | same editor |
| 03:08.22 | kergoth | which means jack shit |
| 03:08.30 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:08.31 | kergoth | svn only errors if it has the svn:eol-style attribute set |
| 03:08.39 | kergoth | if someone set that recently, now its stopping you |
| 03:08.44 | kergoth | whereas before itd just let you merrily screw up formats of files |
| 03:08.46 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:08.55 | Funkeh` | so what do i do |
| 03:08.57 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 03:09.06 | kergoth | fix your editor, or get one that doesnt suck |
| 03:09.51 | Funkeh` | i use notepad2 it works fine up until now for no reason, i have edited this file before without a problem |
| 03:10.37 | kergoth | and? |
| 03:11.04 | kergoth | the point is, if svn is giving that error, then the checkout from svn had consistent line editings |
| 03:11.08 | kergoth | after your modifications, it no longer does |
| 03:11.19 | kergoth | therefore, your editor screwed it up. logic, isnt it fun? |
| 03:11.55 | Gngsk | drinking > logic |
| 03:12.03 | Funkeh` | qft |
| 03:12.07 | kergoth | i'd advise starting by reverting your changes and implementing them from scratch, in case the attribute change occurred before your alterations |
| 03:12.18 | kergoth | and if it happens again, get a new editor |
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| 03:16.21 | Velkyn | Quick Question - some mods I got off wowace.com/files/ are no longer there.... should I take this as a sign to stop using them? |
| 03:16.37 | Velkyn | ("ShowMyChat" and "GMail") are the two mods in question. |
| 03:18.16 | Gngsk | yep, they're gone |
| 03:18.17 | Gngsk | GMail won't be back for a while methinks |
| 03:18.22 | Gngsk | you can find ShowMyChat at fuxsake.net |
| 03:19.03 | Velkyn | But they are no longer... I dont know "ace-friends" |
| 03:19.17 | Velkyn | I try to keep everything ACE, I love the updater and I trust things from wowace.com |
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| 03:19.40 | Velkyn | Especially with the mass mails Blizzard has been sending out in regards to "Dont use mods you dont trust" every 4-5 days or so... |
| 03:19.45 | Gngsk | *shrug* |
| 03:19.46 | Velkyn | You can understand my concern then? |
| 03:20.09 | Gngsk | uh, not really |
| 03:20.36 | Gngsk | if you were really keeping tabs on the scene you'd know why they're gone |
| 03:20.47 | Gngsk | instead of just running WAU everyday :) |
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| 03:21.12 | Velkyn | lol :) |
| 03:21.35 | Velkyn | Well I am not the mod "hip-cat" that others are, thats for sure. |
| 03:22.16 | Velkyn | I just love the fact that, before I was running mods and it was effect my game performance, and now I use basically only Ace mods (or mods found at wowace.com) and my performance is way up again :) |
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| 03:25.49 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r22254 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes: fix twin emps and loot |
| 03:25.54 | Funkeh` | YYYYEEEEEESSSSSSS |
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| 03:26.33 | greylock | wha Funkeh`? |
| 03:26.45 | Funkeh` | it finally commited |
| 03:26.51 | Funkeh` | nvm was my own little thing :p |
| 03:27.22 | greylock | funkydude or what? |
| 03:28.16 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22255 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu:Allow the 2nd fsr bar to be displayed independantly |
| 03:29.49 | CIA-17 | 03arjuna * r22256 10simpleMinimap/ (modules/compass.lua simpleMinimap.lua): |
| 03:29.49 | CIA-17 | simpleMinimap: |
| 03:29.49 | CIA-17 | - fix for mouse zoom |
| 03:31.48 | Velkyn | Gngsk: Well know that I am in the know, that makes me sad. |
| 03:32.41 | Gngsk | cheer up, it's not all bad |
| 03:32.57 | Gngsk | GMail may be recieving a rewrite and ShowMyChat isn't really going to change, ever, I'd guess. |
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| 03:44.53 | Nickenyfiken | yeah we need a rewrite of GMail |
| 03:45.37 | kergoth | gmail had the same limitations as ct_mailmod, i'd rather see bulkmail get updated to not rely on acegui/ace1 and perhaps get integrated into the mailframe as a tab |
| 03:46.28 | Funkeh` | i thought someone started on a rewrite? |
| 03:46.45 | Amadeo | I agree with kergoth :) |
| 03:49.10 | Amadeo | I'm in Ubuntu Live, just messing around...it's pretty nice, things have come a long way |
| 03:49.29 | Amadeo | Video modes aren't right though, it's only detecting some resolutions and 60Hz |
| 03:50.37 | Thrae | Well you really shouldn't be using Linux unless you want to do some real customization anyway |
| 03:51.26 | Thrae | I think what it gives would be fine for most people. Those that want more should do it right, instead of having Windows TRY to do it right |
| 03:51.36 | Amadeo | I'm not sure all the distrobutions have that same goal, but I agree that's how it had been in the past |
| 03:51.50 | Amadeo | It seems nice enough to use as a desktop OS |
| 03:53.08 | Amadeo | I haven't used Linux in a long time...last time I tried it things weren't as responsive on initial load |
| 03:53.21 | Amadeo | At least within Gnome/KDE |
| 03:54.11 | Gngsk | running gnome/kde is like running discord, omg |
| 03:54.12 | Thrae | Kubuntu is nice |
| 03:54.34 | Thrae | Gngsk: Good joke, bad analogy :D |
| 03:54.52 | Amadeo | haha |
| 03:54.59 | Gngsk | it was meant to be a joke |
| 03:55.05 | Gngsk | xfce is <3 though |
| 03:57.57 | Amadeo | I can't seem to turn off mouse acceleration either, but I'm sure there's a way around it |
| 03:58.18 | lhunath | that, and to play wow if I feel like fancy effects, heh. |
| 03:59.41 | Amadeo | fancy effects? |
| 03:59.55 | Gngsk | yea, you know. mouse acceleration!!! |
| 04:00.06 | Thrae | I'd run Ubuntu, but it doesn't properly work with my fancy 24" LCD-TV |
| 04:00.08 | lhunath | meh, wine isn't 100% yet. |
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| 04:00.31 | lhunath | and blizzard is too closeminded to compile their c for linux, too. |
| 04:00.34 | Amadeo | Thrae: What do you run instead? |
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| 04:01.47 | Thrae | Amadeo: Windows for my gaming box, Debian for my server, Ubuntu on my Grandfather's main desktop (he likes Linux) |
| 04:01.47 | lhunath | thrae: what's wrong with it? |
| 04:01.47 | Amadeo | I think if I were putting a game out that was as massive in scope as WoW, I'd support all three major operating systems |
| 04:01.47 | lhunath | I bet wow is written in C |
| 04:01.47 | Thrae | Amadeo: The Linux market that ONLY uses Linux and doesn't dual boot is tiny tiny tiny |
| 04:01.47 | lhunath | or c++ |
| 04:01.58 | lhunath | and that compiles for every major OS if you use the standards |
| 04:02.02 | Thrae | WoW has an OpenGL engine it uses for Mac OSX, it wouldn't really be that hard for them |
| 04:02.06 | lhunath | no extra porting needed |
| 04:02.20 | lhunath | yeah, wow in wine uses it. |
| 04:02.34 | Amadeo | Well, I know I can say I'm very impressed with how this feels |
| 04:02.52 | Amadeo | Considering I'm running off a CD |
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| 04:03.12 | Amadeo | I wonder what other Live CDs I should play with |
| 04:06.16 | Benumbed | when you do a for statement, its possible to make variables on the fly depending on many in the "for" statement right? |
| 04:06.16 | Thrae | Amadeo: I couldn't figure out how to get it to go above 800x600, no matter how much I hacked at xorg.conf...it kept using syncs unsupported by my monitor |
| 04:06.16 | Thrae | lhunath: Windows can use OpenGL too, it's as easy as calling wow.exe with -opengl |
| 04:06.16 | lhunath | yes, I am aware |
| 04:06.16 | lhunath | but it does not seem to handle it as well as direct3d |
| 04:06.16 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, I tried this CD on another PC with an older video card than mine (mine's old as well), and it supported the other fine...on mine it has a few resolutions and 60Hz |
| 04:06.16 | Thrae | Right |
| 04:06.16 | lhunath | though I read it improved in the last patch |
| 04:06.17 | Amadeo | I tried OpenGL in Windows, I lost like 15 fps |
| 04:06.17 | lhunath | thrae: did you look up your monitor refresh rates online? |
| 04:06.17 | Amadeo | I think I also lost my hardware cursor |
| 04:06.17 | Thrae | Amadeo: Yeah. I tried a standard 15" LCD and it would work on my SLI config, but my new 24" LCD-TV didn't work above 1024x768 |
| 04:06.17 | Thrae | lhunath: Yes, those were correct. |
| 04:06.17 | lhunath | opengl doesn't do hardware cursor in wow, or wow just hasn;t implemented that |
| 04:06.17 | Amadeo | lhunath: As simple as it sounds, it was a night and day difference between having it and not |
| 04:06.17 | lhunath | especially when you have vsync on |
| 04:06.36 | Thrae | Anyway, I have a few Linux computers, and I'm happy with 'em. I just keep my desktop on hibernate until I use it for gaming or viewing movies/anime |
| 04:07.17 | Thrae | Putting Ubuntu on it is really overkill, in my opinion...I already have enough Linux to satisfy me. Even my Nintendo DS can boot into Linux. |
| 04:07.20 | lhunath | so long as clicking suits your needs windows works well. |
| 04:07.35 | lhunath | once you like to have more control, you hit a brick wall |
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| 04:07.53 | Daemona_ | hmpf |
| 04:07.57 | kagaro | anyone familiar with the ModuleCore? |
| 04:08.07 | Daemona_ | why do they do on-the-fly maintenance in US and not europe? |
| 04:08.21 | Thrae | Not really. My first OS was DOS, and most of Windows configurability is actually through the command line. |
| 04:08.55 | Benumbed | http://pastey.net/4020 - whats correct way to make variable depending on how many (that call should make ch1, ch2, ch3) |
| 04:09.02 | Thrae | Then again, I do support for both Windows and Linux IT, so I'm suppose to know this stuff ;) |
| 04:10.38 | Amadeo | I like Windows...there's a lot I hate about it, but there's a lot to like at the same time |
| 04:11.11 | Thrae | I'm in the IT world, so I really have to use both anyway. |
| 04:11.27 | anenigma_ | Daemona_: Probably just a test-thing |
| 04:11.28 | Thrae | Fixing your own mistakes is the best learning tool! |
| 04:11.46 | Amadeo | Though most of the good things about Windows to me is through software support |
| 04:11.59 | Amadeo | and hardware, generally through software |
| 04:12.00 | Kaelten | hope everyone had a good holiday? |
| 04:12.16 | Amadeo | Yes Kaelten :) Yourself? |
| 04:12.20 | Kaelten | kergoth: because its that good or that bad? |
| 04:12.40 | Kaelten | Amadeo: went well :) |
| 04:12.49 | kergoth | aceoo :) the way i did the factory setup was incredibly flexible and conceptually intuitive, but its easy to get lost |
| 04:12.59 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 04:13.55 | Thrae | You always know a good framework when it makes the author's head hurt. |
| 04:15.28 | kergoth | i figured it might be useful to create a version of Factory with a custom table allocator, so that foo:new() could hand off a new object allocated out of a table pool |
| 04:16.11 | Gnarfoz_ | <Daemona_> why do they do on-the-fly maintenance in US and not europe? <-- you probably should read bluetracker more often :P |
| 04:16.29 | Gnarfoz_ | they will do on-the-fly maintenance in europe next week |
| 04:16.32 | Amadeo | Speaking of a hurting head, this refresh rate is getting to me...brb :) |
| 04:18.28 | vid` | hmmm |
| 04:18.43 | vid` | i just updated my mods and now i got this 'FiveSec Bar' |
| 04:18.44 | vid` | wtf is that |
| 04:18.45 | vid` | hhe |
| 04:20.01 | Thrae | Bar which shows you when you're within the 5-second rule |
| 04:20.24 | vid` | ah |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r22257 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-17 | Ace2: AceOO-2.0: the Factory new/createnew were relying upon an implicit 'arg' |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-17 | being accessible in vararg functions, which is not the case in all builds of lua |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-17 | 5.1. Modified to use recursion to iterate over the ... and pass the new values |
| 04:20.32 | CIA-17 | along. |
| 04:20.54 | vid` | what mod did it though |
| 04:20.59 | vid` | i wonder |
| 04:21.07 | Thrae | NadecFiveSec or whatever |
| 04:21.13 | kergoth | <CIA-17> sylvanaar * r22251 FuBar_RegenFu/ (4 files): FuBar_RegenFu: Added a 2nd 5sr bar. Code from NabuFiveSec |
| 04:21.13 | Thrae | Nad*FiveSec |
| 04:21.22 | Thrae | Ah there you go |
| 04:21.55 | kergoth | with the change i checked in, and a couple stub functions, aceoo is happy outside of wow again |
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| 04:23.46 | Gnarfoz_ | there are people using aceoo outside of wow? |
| 04:23.57 | kergoth | its useful to be able to unit test addon code. |
| 04:24.00 | Gnarfoz_ | or is that for the case where people code addons in 'workbenches' |
| 04:24.26 | vid` | hmm |
| 04:24.33 | vid` | how did i get nabufivesec |
| 04:24.33 | vid` | lol |
| 04:24.38 | vid` | i didnt check that off |
| 04:24.38 | vid` | hax |
| 04:24.40 | kergoth | pay attention |
| 04:24.41 | Xogxog | vid`, FuBar_RegenFu |
| 04:24.44 | kergoth | <kergoth> <CIA-17> sylvanaar * r22251 FuBar_RegenFu/ (4 files): FuBar_RegenFu: Added a 2nd 5sr bar. Code from NabuFiveSec |
| 04:24.49 | kergoth | how many times should i paste it? |
| 04:24.50 | vid` | ah no its not installed |
| 04:24.52 | vid` | ahh k |
| 04:25.36 | vid` | i have the fsr bar off |
| 04:25.36 | vid` | shrug |
| 04:26.44 | vid` | yea its nott he regen_fu one |
| 04:26.45 | vid` | weird |
| 04:26.54 | vid` | something else must've added it time to turn shit on and off :P |
| 04:27.57 | Kemayo | There any examples of unit tests done for addons? |
| 04:28.27 | Xogxog | vid`, no, it's RegenFu. ;P |
| 04:28.47 | Xogxog | RegenFu got another bar.. 'cept it's not turn-offable for some reason. |
| 04:28.56 | sylvanaar | Yes it is |
| 04:28.57 | CIA-17 | 03fatherjim * r22258 10loudmouth/ (8 files): |
| 04:28.57 | CIA-17 | loudmouth: initial commit |
| 04:28.57 | CIA-17 | - Loudmouth enhances the role playing environment by commenting on critical hits, misses, fear effects, and AFK experiences. |
| 04:29.07 | Xogxog | Ah, it is after clicking the option twice. ;P |
| 04:29.26 | sylvanaar | 22251? |
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| 04:30.07 | Xogxog | 22255. |
| 04:30.20 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r22259 10/branches/FuBar_LogFu/LogFu.lua: - Commented out line that prevented users from being able to hide the text on FuBar. That should be an option, not forced. |
| 04:30.51 | sylvanaar | did you update from 22251? |
| 04:31.00 | Xogxog | Oh, no idea. Possibly. |
| 04:31.10 | vid` | Xogxog: i cant get rid of it :| |
| 04:31.14 | Xogxog | It was just that the 'counter on' option starts 'on' but the checkbox isn't checked on the menu. Had to turn it on to then turn it off. |
| 04:31.16 | vid` | lemme try again |
| 04:31.30 | sylvanaar | just toggle it on and off |
| 04:31.34 | vid` | yea i did |
| 04:31.45 | Xogxog | That worked for me, not working for you, vid`? |
| 04:31.46 | sylvanaar | allright |
| 04:32.02 | vid` | nope, there is 2 bars if i turn on the bar |
| 04:32.06 | vid` | if i turn it off theres just a static one |
| 04:32.13 | vid` | that i can move around |
| 04:32.13 | Xogxog | You should have two options. |
| 04:32.16 | vid` | yea there is 2 |
| 04:32.25 | Xogxog | FSR Countdown Bar and FSR Movable Countdown Bar |
| 04:33.25 | sylvanaar | ah i see |
| 04:34.02 | vid` | yea theres an FSR countdown bar thats always visible |
| 04:34.16 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r22260 10Evpsets/ (Evpsets.lua Evpsets.toc libs/): Evpsets: Major rewrite to dewdrop |
| 04:34.16 | sylvanaar | turn on the other one |
| 04:34.21 | vid` | k |
| 04:34.31 | sylvanaar | anyhow, can you try this fix |
| 04:34.36 | vid` | both options on |
| 04:34.46 | vid` | i see both bars now |
| 04:35.03 | vid` | one only shows after cast, other is always there :) whatcha need me to try |
| 04:35.05 | sylvanaar | now turn 2 off |
| 04:35.07 | vid` | k |
| 04:35.29 | vid` | turn both off or the option for the 2nd bar? |
| 04:35.36 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 04:35.50 | sylvanaar | its a bug, it was checking for the first one being on |
| 04:36.00 | vid` | ah that worked |
| 04:36.02 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22261 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu: remove check for fsr1 when setting state of fsr2 |
| 04:36.06 | vid` | :) |
| 04:36.50 | sylvanaar | ok, that should work better i guess |
| 04:39.38 | Health | wtb shadow word death on live! |
| 04:39.47 | sylvanaar | its coming |
| 04:39.58 | sylvanaar | Fun spell |
| 04:40.14 | Health | I'm sure it is... I just feel so overrun in pvp |
| 04:40.21 | Health | 2.0 only gave pve stuff to shadow priests |
| 04:40.38 | sylvanaar | its fun to SWD yourself |
| 04:40.41 | Health | Undergeared huntards hurt too much.. so does rogues adn warlocks |
| 04:41.01 | sylvanaar | when mindcontrolled |
| 04:41.23 | Health | Heh, as in the AI is using it? |
| 04:41.39 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 04:41.41 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 04:42.27 | Health | How hard does that many dude you summon hit for? |
| 04:46.36 | kergoth | http://ace.pastey.net/4022 |
| 04:47.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:49.36 | CIA-17 | 03fatherjim * r22262 10loudmouth/: |
| 04:49.36 | CIA-17 | loudmouth: |
| 04:49.36 | CIA-17 | - Updated Externals. |
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| 04:50.13 | Sole | hey hey |
| 04:53.02 | Neebler | hello mr programmer |
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| 04:54.18 | CIA-17 | 03ruinna * r22263 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (4 files): FuBar_OutfitterFu: added localization strings; updated TOC; updated README; preped for release |
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| 04:57.02 | Gagorian | jaete: Are you here? |
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| 05:04.24 | kebinusan | This mod needs to be updated for wow 2.0 :-( http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1824/raidsummon/ |
| 05:04.49 | Neebler | raid summon, as in click a name and cast summon? |
| 05:06.10 | kebinusan | as in they /whisper me summon get added to a queue then queued players are summoned in sequence |
| 05:09.20 | kebinusan | also has a mass summoning for players not in the same zone as you |
| 05:09.20 | FatherJim | will that even be possible since Blizz has protected the target functions? |
| 05:09.20 | Gngsk | can't target units, period |
| 05:09.20 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 05:09.20 | gxam | it's probably doable |
| 05:09.20 | Nargiddley | its possible, since summon is out of combat |
| 05:09.20 | kebinusan | yah |
| 05:09.20 | Gngsk | but uh, you'd still have to manually target them? |
| 05:09.20 | Nargiddley | no |
| 05:09.20 | gxam | no |
| 05:09.21 | FatherJim | Oh, so the protection on those is only in combat then? |
| 05:09.21 | Nargiddley | secure button with a preclick to setup to cast summon on the right person |
| 05:09.21 | gxam | yeah |
| 05:09.21 | Nargiddley | it still does the targeting and casting, you just set it up as its pressed |
| 05:09.28 | Nargiddley | same result as doing it yourself basicly |
| 05:09.40 | FatherJim | ok, so the isSecure() type function in the blizz UI with 2.0 is to basically determine whether or not you can do a protected function then. |
| 05:10.09 | Nargiddley | you cant use the casting / targeting functions even out of combat |
| 05:10.42 | kebinusan | umm yeah you can, otherwise you wouldnt be able to click main assists in ora |
| 05:11.00 | Nargiddley | those are secure templates |
| 05:11.16 | Nargiddley | which do the casting/targeting for you based on attributes you set |
| 05:11.53 | FatherJim | that doesn't make sense to me, fortunately, I don't need those. :) |
| 05:13.48 | DrZoot | I thought you could basically do whatever you wanted ooc |
| 05:13.52 | Kameril | you create a secure button, then switch the unit to whomever you need to summon, which is only possible out of combat |
| 05:14.25 | Kameril | then use the secure button to target and cast, just like a unitframe would |
| 05:14.40 | Feldia | does anyone use this "acceptance" mod? |
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| 05:29.00 | RaydenUnicyclist | hello |
| 05:29.09 | FatherJim | hello |
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| 05:31.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm just getting back into wow after a 10 month break or so |
| 05:31.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | looking into full UI mods and stuff |
| 05:31.10 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r22264 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: More data+code cleanup |
| 05:31.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | recommendations? |
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| 05:37.24 | Sole | uhm |
| 05:37.30 | Sole | get what you need |
| 05:37.45 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm looking for complete interface changes, like Titan |
| 05:37.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | are there others that are better? |
| 05:37.57 | FatherJim | Fubar. :) |
| 05:38.02 | FatherJim | IMHO. :) |
| 05:38.06 | Sole | Id just recommend these for a base: ag_UF, Fubar, Bartender3 |
| 05:47.11 | Eternally777 | There used to be a page that listed a bunch of Ace2 alternatives to popular mods. |
| 05:47.11 | anenigma_ | I didn't realise Titan was a whole interface change. I thought it just did the bar. |
| 05:47.12 | Eternally777 | I'd suggest you'd look at that if it's still up. No idea where it was though. |
| 05:47.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh maybe |
| 05:47.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | like i said i haven't played in a while |
| 05:47.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm looking on curse-gaming.com |
| 05:47.12 | Sole | Titan isnt a whole interface change :P |
| 05:47.14 | FatherJim | I might suggest using the WinAceUpdater... there's lots of useful mods there that are (I think) all Ace based. |
| 05:47.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | what does fubar do? |
| 05:47.14 | Sole | just play WoW with the default interface and when you realise you need something you go find an addon which performs that function |
| 05:47.14 | Sole | kicks the shit out of titan panel |
| 05:47.14 | FatherJim | same thing as titan, but from what I've seen, there's more 'modules' available. |
| 05:47.14 | FatherJim | and Anything using ACE, can implement a Fubar addon module with no real extra work. |
| 05:47.15 | Sole | not simply more plugins, its a hell of a lot more memory efficient than titan |
| 05:47.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | fubar is? |
| 05:47.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | ace is a framework? |
| 05:47.15 | Sole | yes |
| 05:47.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | fubar built on ace? |
| 05:47.15 | Dekuna | yes |
| 05:47.15 | Sole | FatherJim: its Ace, not ACE...not an acronym :P |
| 05:47.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | should i get ace or ace2? |
| 05:47.16 | Sole | take a guess |
| 05:47.16 | FatherJim | well that too. :) ACE is essentially a library which can reduce a lot of the 'core' functions each addon needs. :) Ok, Ace, not ACE. :) |
| 05:47.16 | Sole | :P |
| 05:47.16 | Dekuna | everything you download now is Ace2 |
| 05:47.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | ace2 might be in beta still |
| 05:47.16 | FatherJim | Give me a break, I'm new here. lol |
| 05:47.16 | Dekuna | ...no |
| 05:47.16 | Sole | no its not |
| 05:47.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | svn the best way to get it? |
| 05:47.17 | Dekuna | Ace2 is a framework that other mods are based on |
| 05:47.17 | anenigma_ | Ace2 is required. Ace is out-dated |
| 05:47.17 | Dekuna | you don't need to download the "mod" called Ace2 for any Ace'd mods to work |
| 05:47.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 05:47.17 | Sole | Ace2 isnt required, its embedded...that was the whole point of embedded libs..to not require deps |
| 05:47.17 | Dekuna | that's mainly for developers |
| 05:47.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | downloading ace2 is just for development? |
| 05:47.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | where do i get the ace downloader though |
| 05:47.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | that lets me download a bunch of stuff right? |
| 05:47.17 | Dekuna | wowace.com |
| 05:47.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm looking around the wiki |
| 05:47.17 | Sole | www.wowace.com > look in the menu for Ace Updater or somethin |
| 05:47.17 | FatherJim | yeah, it can be very useful. |
| 05:47.18 | Dekuna | it's on the main page |
| 05:47.18 | Dekuna | wowace.com |
| 05:47.18 | Dekuna | little link on the left called Ace Updater |
| 05:47.18 | Sole | also Id recommend Chronometer and Antagonist (lawl shameless plug) |
| 05:47.18 | FatherJim | lol, in that case... I'll scream "Loudmouth" :) |
| 05:47.18 | Sole | for almost all your timing needs |
| 05:47.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | does it matter where i install it? |
| 05:47.18 | Sole | no |
| 05:47.18 | Sole | you dont really install it, it runs out of the folder |
| 05:47.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh ok |
| 05:47.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | so what is cosmos? |
| 05:47.19 | DrZoot | crap :P |
| 05:47.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | like fubar? |
| 05:47.19 | FatherJim | No. :) |
| 05:47.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is it? |
| 05:47.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Cosmos is a ui compilation. It can do some ok things, but I'm not very fond of it. |
| 05:47.19 | FatherJim | I think you can get a lot more for less memory by picking and choosing your own mods to use. |
| 05:47.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | sweet, ace updater looks awesome |
| 05:47.19 | FatherJim | I'd recommend AdvancedTradeSkillWindow. |
| 05:47.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | ace updator knows where to put my plugins? |
| 05:47.24 | FatherJim | Yep. |
| 05:47.33 | RaydenUnicyclist | so you guys recommend, fubar... |
| 05:47.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is ag_UF and bartender? |
| 05:48.05 | Benumbed | unitframes, actionbars |
| 05:48.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | what are unitframes? |
| 05:48.35 | Benumbed | player, target, party, etc |
| 05:48.57 | RaydenUnicyclist | are there ace based library stuff? |
| 05:49.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | like sellvalue? |
| 05:49.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | or chatbox mods? |
| 05:50.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is installing with or without externals? |
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| 05:51.07 | Neebler | externals are libraries |
| 05:51.09 | Neebler | you need them |
| 05:51.11 | FatherJim | with externals means the libraries aren't installed in each mod, externals are individual libraries being installed. |
| 05:51.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | ok |
| 05:51.42 | kergoth | jesus rayden, nobody can be this inept. there are numerous threads on the wowace.com forums on ace based addons for each major group of functionality / ace2 replacements for things |
| 05:51.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | i figured they were good |
| 05:51.46 | kergoth | i suggest you read them |
| 05:51.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh ok |
| 05:51.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm not inept |
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| 05:52.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | im just not at all familiar with ace |
| 05:52.14 | kergoth | familiarity with ace has nothing to do with being able to operate a web browser. |
| 05:52.25 | kergoth | if you're incapable of using one to browse the wowace site, i'd consider that gross ineptitude indeed |
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| 05:53.31 | FatherJim | Hmm... maybe I shouldn't ask the question I was gonna ask then... |
| 05:53.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | ask it |
| 05:53.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | maybe he won't yell at me for asking it then |
| 05:54.41 | FatherJim | I doubt it was a question you'd ask. :) |
| 05:54.49 | kergoth | if its something you could have discovered for yourself with 5 minutes on the web, you can expect to get flamed |
| 05:54.56 | kergoth | stop wasting peoples time. their time is not worth less than yours. |
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| 05:55.13 | Eternally777 | I don't mind a few questions, but you have to understand how we feel when we have to re-explain the Ace2 system every day. |
| 05:55.44 | FatherJim | Well, from your comments here, I'm sure you would consider it that way. I'm interested in trying to learn AceGUI, but I don't know Ace1, only learning how to use Ace2, and I can't follow the tutorial, nothing is matching up and making sense. |
| 05:56.05 | kergoth | the old acegui isnt something you'll want to make use of today |
| 05:57.05 | FatherJim | it all looks stalled to me from reading the Wiki. |
| 05:57.06 | Eternally777 | Yeah, I'd agree there. I don't recommend the old AceGUI. |
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| 05:58.01 | Sole | if youre still learning the style of coding and such then I really dont recommend you even dabble with ace1 |
| 05:58.21 | Sole | theres a pretty difference between the way I coded my ace1 addons and my ace2 stuff |
| 05:58.23 | FatherJim | exactly my thought, and why I've left 1 alone. |
| 05:58.31 | Sole | and Im sure that applies to all authors |
| 05:58.47 | Sole | so dont get them mixed up when you dont know one or the other too well :P |
| 05:58.50 | FatherJim | I've done a lot in PHP, C, PERL, but LUA is um... missing a few things. :) |
| 05:58.58 | Sole | hehe |
| 06:00.24 | Sole | designing and at the same time planning the code for a big addon makes my head fuzzy |
| 06:00.45 | FatherJim | yeah, I'm struggling a bit with bits of the GUI for loudmouth. |
| 06:01.09 | Nirek | Is there some special way to make Dewdrop form submenus? Digging thru the wiki all I find really is the level arguement which it says is pretty much not used anymore. Trying to build a menu system for a list of items, will get way too large as just 1 heading |
| 06:01.38 | FatherJim | I added some dropdowns, and unfortunately, whenver I try to set them without 'clicking' on them myself, they display some values that aren't even mine, and I dont' see why. |
| 06:01.41 | Sole | well Im looking at coding a stat meters addon, so its big :( |
| 06:02.00 | Eternally777 | Heh |
| 06:02.04 | Eternally777 | I know that feeling. |
| 06:02.09 | Sole | Nirek: use groups, so go type = "group", args = { submenu items } |
| 06:02.49 | Sole | and then if you want more submenu levels simply make a group as one of the submenu items |
| 06:03.02 | RaydenUnicyclist | is there an ace based mod similar to sellvalue? |
| 06:03.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | i dont see one |
| 06:03.22 | Sole | whats sellvalue do? |
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| 06:03.28 | Sole | add vendor price to tooltip? |
| 06:03.30 | RaydenUnicyclist | shows what items sell for |
| 06:03.37 | Sole | on AH? |
| 06:03.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | at the store |
| 06:03.44 | Nirek | neat, doesn't seem to be in the wiki anywhere though, doh hehe |
| 06:03.46 | CrisCrOss | no at vendor |
| 06:03.56 | CrisCrOss | but only if its seen it b4.. |
| 06:04.30 | RaydenUnicyclist | itemdb? |
| 06:04.30 | Nirek | I use MonetaryValue for that personally, don't think its ace though. |
| 06:04.33 | CrisCrOss | anyone use G15 logitech keyboard |
| 06:04.35 | Sole | Nirek: wiki could use some extra documentation on quite a few libs...but Ill probably confuse people with my explanations so Im not touching it :) |
| 06:04.40 | RaydenUnicyclist | FuBar_ItemDBFu ? |
| 06:04.43 | Eternally777 | I use a G15. |
| 06:04.57 | CrisCrOss | nice, do you know where i can get some scripts/macris |
| 06:04.58 | CrisCrOss | macros* |
| 06:05.15 | Nirek | would I call it in the Addline statement? Along the lines of 'type', group? or am I missing something |
| 06:05.23 | Eternally777 | No, sorry. I just write them myself as I need them. |
| 06:05.50 | Eternally777 | Nirek, look at the documentation for an AceOptions table. |
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| 06:05.57 | Eternally777 | That's what he's referring to. |
| 06:06.00 | Sole | Nirek: if you're having trouble with dewdrop then look at Antagonist-Options.lua in the Antagonist folder...I tried to keep a fairly clean AceOpts table |
| 06:06.20 | Nirek | hrrm, I'm not feeding it an ace opt table though, bah, heh |
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| 06:06.40 | Sole | AceOpts table make me happy |
| 06:06.45 | Sole | knock off 2 birds with 1 stone |
| 06:06.48 | Sole | console and gui |
| 06:06.55 | Eternally777 | Yep |
| 06:06.58 | CrisCrOss | Can someone create a script that works for mounts |
| 06:07.02 | CrisCrOss | so i can bind a g keyt o it? |
| 06:07.04 | Sole | for small addons anyway |
| 06:07.18 | Nirek | I'm just feeding it a database of itemlinks for the most part, Evpsets, is the addon I'm working on |
| 06:07.22 | CrisCrOss | like mount/unmount |
| 06:07.50 | Sole | that sounds like an easy thing to do, Id tell you how if I had a clue on how to script a G15 |
| 06:07.54 | FatherJim | I just put my mount in a button, and bound it in the KeyBinding window provided by Blizzard. |
| 06:07.55 | Eternally777 | Doesn't '/use <mount name>' work? |
| 06:07.58 | Sole | but I dont own one so I havent looked into it |
| 06:08.17 | Sole | yeah I just have my mount bound to B, problem solved |
| 06:08.24 | CrisCrOss | thts my temp fix |
| 06:08.53 | Sole | whats wrong with it? |
| 06:08.53 | CrisCrOss | but id like to make more use of its scripting |
| 06:08.53 | CrisCrOss | one has to start somewhere |
| 06:08.53 | CrisCrOss | the same ingame macro can be used with g15 no? |
| 06:08.58 | Eternally777 | You can program them directly into the G15 keyboard by pressing the MR button in-game and recording the macro live. |
| 06:09.11 | Eternally777 | Yeah |
| 06:09.35 | Eternally777 | Just hit the MR button, select the G button, then type the macro in game and press enter, then press the MR button again. |
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| 06:14.06 | CrisCrOss | btw For the person that said MonetaryValue isnt ACE it is |
| 06:14.06 | CrisCrOss | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5653-MonetaryValue.html |
| 06:14.26 | CrisCrOss | yea but eternally that would have it type in the macro everytime |
| 06:14.31 | CrisCrOss | which imo is too long |
| 06:14.39 | CrisCrOss | not as responsive as a keybind |
| 06:15.25 | Eternally777 | True |
| 06:15.48 | Eternally777 | But it works for me :P |
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| 06:15.57 | Eternally777 | I'm going to sleep, g'night |
| 06:16.03 | Nirek | the easy way to do it is bind it to some off the wall key combination |
| 06:16.08 | Nirek | for the g15, that is |
| 06:16.16 | Nirek | like control + shift+ N or something |
| 06:16.35 | Nirek | and then bind that to the g key, and the keybind in game |
| 06:17.03 | CrisCrOss | i guess but the only way to make keybinds is if i add them to an action bar |
| 06:17.10 | CrisCrOss | and for some i wouldnt want n action bar |
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| 06:17.26 | Sole | hmm |
| 06:17.35 | Sole | so who remembers StatusBars? |
| 06:18.00 | CrisCrOss | main thing i want is to b able to change stance via g keys |
| 06:18.07 | Nirek | you can bind spells direct to keybinds in 2.0 |
| 06:18.14 | ZealotOnAStick | I remember StatusBars, there's been an update for it. |
| 06:18.17 | Nirek | use spellbinder, I think the addon is to do it with a gui |
| 06:18.24 | ZealotOnAStick | You're supposed to be able to bind macros directly to keys now . . . |
| 06:18.29 | CrisCrOss | i also wanna bind /spit /laugh |
| 06:18.41 | ZealotOnAStick | but (I'm not sure on this) I think that's one of the things that's currently broken, and will be fixed in 2.0.3. |
| 06:18.43 | CrisCrOss | how does one do that? |
| 06:18.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Nymbia's Spellbinder would be my suggestion, though there are others. |
| 06:19.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Gello has one I don't recall the name of offhand. |
| 06:19.13 | CrisCrOss | what if i dont wanna bind spells but rather |
| 06:19.14 | CrisCrOss | actions |
| 06:19.16 | CrisCrOss | like /dance |
| 06:19.23 | ZealotOnAStick | You'd have to put that into a macro. |
| 06:19.28 | ZealotOnAStick | then bind the macro. |
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| 06:19.45 | ZealotOnAStick | nothing for binding emotes to keys to my knowledge. |
| 06:19.45 | Nirek | Sole: |
| 06:19.49 | Nirek | oops |
| 06:19.56 | Nirek | ignore that :p stupid keyboard |
| 06:20.11 | ZealotOnAStick | and I can't imagine it being very high priority for slouken and the Blizzard UI team to care about adding. |
| 06:20.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Sole: What about StatusBars? |
| 06:23.08 | Sole | well its been suggested that StatusBars be rewritten |
| 06:23.12 | Sole | obviously to be Ace2 |
| 06:23.33 | Sole | now I dunno whether its actually needed or if the current version is fine |
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| 06:25.16 | DrZoot | Im having one of those days, I want to code but all of my ideas are turning to shit |
| 06:25.16 | Neebler | I also read from the guy who updated aftt_extreme to 2.0 that it'll be rewritten using ace2 |
| 06:25.37 | Neebler | aftt_extreme is a ubah sexy tooltip |
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| 06:26.46 | Neebler | aint that so Tekkub? |
| 06:27.51 | Tekkub | fuck you |
| 06:28.03 | Dekuna | kergoth: ping |
| 06:30.08 | Tekkub | muahahaha |
| 06:30.09 | Tekkub | http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20061227 |
| 06:30.09 | sergio | i don't get it |
| 06:30.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Is that the "'sec, Boss fight" one? |
| 06:30.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is the dependency i need for fubar_itemdb? |
| 06:31.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | i got it from the ace updator but it needs a dependency |
| 06:31.32 | ZealotOnAStick | If you download with Externals (F12) it should just need FuBar. |
| 06:31.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | hmm |
| 06:31.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | didn't work |
| 06:31.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'll try again |
| 06:32.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Unless the toc on it is written wrong (I've not used that one personally so I dunno). |
| 06:32.46 | RaydenUnicyclist | is there one that keeps track of item prices at the store? |
| 06:32.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | an other one? |
| 06:35.47 | FatherJim | Grr... I can't believe it was that simple... lol |
| 06:36.17 | FatherJim | I'm using a scrollframe, and my scrollbar wasn't doing anything, I couldn't believe that um... it just didn't scroll because I didn't set the minmaxvalues. :) |
| 06:36.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | ace is awesome |
| 06:36.28 | Nirek | bah, having a hard time wrapping my head around using an aceopt table to spawn the table I want, dynamically how it is, ugh |
| 06:36.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | maybe the itemdb is missing the info, which it builds |
| 06:38.24 | FatherJim | I believe that is the case, but not 100% sure. :) |
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| 06:41.59 | Nirek | Is there no way to force a new category in raw dewdrop? Aceopts looks entirely too structured for what I'm trying to do :p heh |
| 06:42.39 | Kameril | use "value" key to spawn a new level |
| 06:42.58 | Kameril | needs an arrow also, it's all documented |
| 06:43.38 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r22265 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLocale-koKR.lua): Grid - Update locals koKR |
| 06:44.15 | Nirek | nod, I overlooked that, ty :) now to figure out how to work it out, still better than trying to force it thru aceopts, hehe |
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| 06:47.02 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:48.06 | FatherJim | howdy |
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| 06:50.31 | Mimesis | question: would it be possible to throttle or stop bag events in combat |
| 06:52.11 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:52.17 | ckknight | up to the addon, though |
| 06:52.50 | Mikma | <0846> ::: arkayenro [n=raymond_@ppp32-215.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #wowace |
| 06:52.57 | Mikma | so he finally figured out what irc is |
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| 06:53.12 | ckknight | Mikma: left right away, though |
| 06:53.20 | Mimesis | hrm, not possible to make an addon to throttle all bag events in comat so that it can apply to each mod, or would this be a bad approach |
| 06:53.29 | Mikma | yeah but it's a start |
| 06:54.07 | ckknight | Mimesis: it _could_ be added in to AceEvent proper... |
| 06:54.36 | Mimesis | the only reason i ask is because us poison users see alot of inventory updates in combat |
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| 06:55.01 | ckknight | Mimesis: what throttle do you think would be good? |
| 06:55.25 | Mimesis | well im actually unfamiliar with the whole throttle concept |
| 06:55.55 | Mimesis | but i suppose it would hurt to wait till end of combat to actually use those events |
| 06:56.00 | ckknight | how many seconds would it throttle for? |
| 06:56.03 | ckknight | no, that'd be bad |
| 06:56.14 | ckknight | you'd want the events to occur |
| 06:56.20 | ckknight | just maybe not so drastically |
| 06:57.05 | Mimesis | well, i was thinking, in say a bag addon, that they not accept (or process or whatever) events during combat, and then scan the inventory on end of combat |
| 06:57.20 | Mimesis | this would eliminate the poison lag |
| 06:57.54 | Mimesis | i mean im sure its possible it might actually introduce more problems than solve |
| 07:01.47 | ckknight | if I made a patch to AceEvent describing what you said, would you test it? |
| 07:01.59 | Nirek | meh, not seeing how to actually use the 'value' tag, wiki example only shows about half what's needed:( |
| 07:02.53 | mjc | blah |
| 07:03.33 | Mimesis | ckk: tbh i wouldnt know where to start to apply a patch, sadly. |
| 07:03.52 | ckknight | Mimesis: you'd just copy the file over your AceEvent-2.0.lua and do a raid |
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| 07:04.45 | Mimesis | ah ok, i can manage that, im in a 5man run atm too |
| 07:05.04 | ckknight | do you currently have lag problems in a 5-man raid? |
| 07:05.32 | Tekkub | lag problems caue by bag updates need to be fixed in the ADDON, not the enevt dispatcher |
| 07:05.33 | Mimesis | yes sir |
| 07:05.44 | Tekkub | *caused |
| 07:05.50 | Mimesis | on poison applications there is a lag |
| 07:05.55 | ckknight | Tekkub: I mostly just want see if it'd work with Mimesis |
| 07:06.02 | ckknight | if it's viable, that is. |
| 07:06.17 | Mimesis | tekkub: yes a also posted to arkinventories author about the problem |
| 07:06.37 | Tekkub | bag addons need to not register BU unless they are open.... |
| 07:06.46 | Nirek | neat, I've managed to make a dewdrop menu repeat itself indefinately |
| 07:06.50 | Tekkub | and they need to full update on :Show |
| 07:07.03 | Tekkub | but... there's plenty of addons that need the BU in combat |
| 07:07.09 | Tekkub | you don't want to fuck those up |
| 07:07.30 | Mimesis | tekkub: yes thats a good point |
| 07:07.34 | ckknight | Tekkub: I want to see if throttling it will work, not halting it until leave combat |
| 07:07.57 | Mimesis | ckk: where would i grab this lua from |
| 07:08.04 | ckknight | I'll email it |
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| 07:09.52 | Kameril | Nirek: this is the basic structure of a leveled dewdrop http://ace.pastey.net/4024 |
| 07:10.06 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22266 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Escape the [ ] that we are substituting in |
| 07:10.40 | Nirek | I'm starting to get it, my first problem was all of the categories I were trying to use were set as titles :p hehe |
| 07:10.55 | Nirek | though I did manage to make a repeating menu that would just keep spawning a copy of itself |
| 07:12.02 | Arkayenro | i did that first time round, forgot to put function( level, value ), just had function() |
| 07:13.22 | Nirek | part of my problem is the function I'm using is also passing a table that I'm using as the backbone of what I'm using the dewdrop for |
| 07:14.21 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r22267 10Cartographer_Opening/ (. Cartographer_Opening.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Opening - Cartographer module for chest, power crystal etc.. mapnotes |
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| 07:16.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | so i' mmessing with fubar |
| 07:16.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | there is a check for 'hotkey' on each actionbar, what does that do? |
| 07:21.09 | Nargiddley | woot, got the start of my bag addon working :D |
| 07:22.50 | Gagorian | Grr, I hate this new blizzard implementation. I can't figure out a formula for it :( |
| 07:22.53 | Nargiddley | http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6062/packratalphadb1.jpg is what i have right now, all running from a static config tho. time to work on the configuration interface |
| 07:23.06 | Gagorian | Apparently spells gain base damage or healing when you levelup until you get your new rank |
| 07:24.30 | Gagorian | It's like a bonus of 0-4.31% (highest bonus I've calculated so far) but can't really get a formula for it |
| 07:26.14 | FatherJim | Stupid question about the SVN... our addons are not restricted to just those of us who make the initial request by default, right? |
| 07:27.56 | Wobin | narf |
| 07:28.00 | FatherJim | have there been many problems with people 'messing' with other's codes? |
| 07:28.10 | Wobin | Not really |
| 07:28.15 | Wobin | You can always roll back |
| 07:28.22 | jjungnickel | nargiddley, i like it. |
| 07:28.29 | FatherJim | cool, didn't know that. :) |
| 07:28.36 | Wobin | Most of the problems have been from people who do localising not knowing that their editors change the text detrimentally |
| 07:28.44 | Nargiddley | jjungnickel, any requests for features ? |
| 07:28.51 | Nargiddley | still really early stages atm |
| 07:29.12 | jjungnickel | figured, there's "alpha" in that images url :9 |
| 07:29.24 | Wobin | hurrah |
| 07:29.27 | Wobin | someone is doing it =P |
| 07:29.30 | Wobin | Thank you Nargiddley |
| 07:29.39 | Wobin | You're saving me the trouble of rewriting Plowking =P |
| 07:29.41 | jjungnickel | looks good so far, i shall bug you when i come up with something. |
| 07:29.53 | Nargiddley | but each bag can have as many sections as you want, number columns can be changed, sections can have more than one category assigned |
| 07:30.19 | Nargiddley | so it could act like a big all in one bag, or a seperate bag for everything |
| 07:30.20 | jjungnickel | in fact the screesnhot shows almost exactly what i wanted |
| 07:30.21 | Wobin | My only requests are as follows =P PeriodicTable, User Defined Categories |
| 07:30.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Gagorian - you do DrDamage, right? |
| 07:30.35 | Nargiddley | categorys can be a PT set |
| 07:30.37 | Nargiddley | already |
| 07:30.42 | Wobin | Easy config |
| 07:30.52 | Nargiddley | yeah thats what i'm working on next |
| 07:30.56 | Mimesis | looks nice, i actually prefer the onebag with subsections look of arkinventory, but i suppose different mods for different preferences is a good thing |
| 07:31.14 | Wobin | Mimesis: I imagine you can end up with a single frame bag |
| 07:31.20 | Nargiddley | atm each category is a set of rules, applied one after the other |
| 07:31.31 | Wobin | Nargiddley: Can an item appear in more than one category? |
| 07:31.34 | jjungnickel | oh, and your hud mady my cry almost - i read "10074" first :> |
| 07:31.36 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 07:31.38 | Wobin | woot |
| 07:31.45 | vid` | hey whoever wrote ClassColors addon, can you make it work with ag_uf? |
| 07:31.48 | vid` | :P |
| 07:31.53 | Nargiddley | only once in each section though |
| 07:32.06 | Wobin | doesn't ag_uf already have class colours? |
| 07:32.10 | jjungnickel | vid, whatever that is - sounds like what aguf already does. |
| 07:32.16 | Nargiddley | eg the armor part of the equip bag in that ss |
| 07:32.32 | vid` | ah does it? |
| 07:32.37 | vid` | cause i hate the shaman color |
| 07:32.39 | vid` | i like to change it |
| 07:32.50 | vid` | since its almost identical to mage color now |
| 07:33.07 | Wobin | Nargiddley: Can you split up the armour category into the relevant equiplocations? |
| 07:33.12 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 07:33.19 | Wobin | You've thought of everything! =) |
| 07:33.23 | Nargiddley | well i assume you can |
| 07:33.23 | Wobin | <3 Nargiddley |
| 07:33.37 | Wobin | A 'greys' category? |
| 07:33.41 | Wobin | aka trash? |
| 07:33.56 | vid` | nah |
| 07:34.03 | vid` | no option in ag_uf to set the individual class colors |
| 07:34.09 | vid` | at least not that i can see |
| 07:34.11 | Nargiddley | will have a rule for quality |
| 07:34.19 | Nargiddley | so you could have a cat thats something like |
| 07:34.22 | vid` | ag_uf must be pulling values from somewhere else maybne |
| 07:34.24 | Wobin | aside from 'Set Healthbar to class colour' or somesuc? |
| 07:34.30 | vid` | or they may be hardcoded i dunno |
| 07:34.35 | ZealotOnAStick | not unless you edit the code. |
| 07:35.13 | Wobin | Nargiddley: That looks great =) It's called PackRat? |
| 07:35.20 | Wobin | (isn't there already one named that?) |
| 07:35.26 | vid` | yea wobin |
| 07:35.28 | Nargiddley | no idea |
| 07:35.29 | Nargiddley | heh |
| 07:35.35 | Wobin | I think it's a pricing addon |
| 07:35.37 | Wobin | from Turan |
| 07:35.41 | vid` | Class colors actually lets you define the color for each class |
| 07:35.41 | Nargiddley | guess i'll have to find another name then :D |
| 07:35.42 | Wobin | stores vendor prices |
| 07:35.47 | Nargiddley | thats what i've been calling it |
| 07:36.03 | vid` | and anywhere it uses the class color (like player names) it should show the new user defined colors instead of the default |
| 07:36.07 | vid` | but ag_uf keeps the default |
| 07:36.11 | Wobin | Call it PackRodent |
| 07:36.14 | vid` | dunno if its something with ag_uf or classcolors |
| 07:36.32 | Wobin | Or RatPack =P |
| 07:37.57 | jjungnickel | i'm not saying you shouldn't - your decision, by why would you want to change the class colors? |
| 07:38.24 | jjungnickel | ('because i can' _is_ considered a valid reason ;-)) |
| 07:41.11 | Wobin | <vid`> cause i hate the shaman color |
| 07:41.11 | Wobin | <vid`> i like to change it |
| 07:41.11 | Wobin | <vid`> since its almost identical to mage color now |
| 07:42.17 | jjungnickel | ow, haven't played horde since 2.0 - didn't notice it. :) |
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| 07:43.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | so i installed fubar and bartender, but now no one shows up in my group |
| 07:43.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | is there a setting or do i need to install an Ace plugin? |
| 07:43.34 | Wobin | Noone wants to party with you now you have those addons =( |
| 07:43.55 | Wobin | Actually, neither of those addons should affect the party display |
| 07:44.05 | Wobin | Do they both load? |
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| 07:44.33 | FatherJim | um, nobody wants to party with those with MY addon. lol |
| 07:44.41 | Wobin | And if you unload one or both, does the party interface show back up? |
| 07:46.55 | jjungnickel | happened to me before, then i found out that i still was in a (dead) raid group for the day before :> |
| 07:47.03 | jjungnickel | *from |
| 07:47.37 | Nirek | I must be missing something about how value works, I just can't get it to spawn a subheading to save my butt, bleh |
| 07:47.50 | Wobin | Nirek in what? |
| 07:48.06 | Nirek | value in a dewdrop menu, sec and I'll pastey the func |
| 07:48.59 | Nirek | http://ace.pastey.net/4026 |
| 07:49.02 | Boobies4u | pleaseeeeeeee |
| 07:49.07 | Boobies4u | release me let me goooooo |
| 07:51.34 | Wobin | Nirek: You'll have to bundle the table in with the 'value' |
| 07:51.44 | Wobin | since the third argument is 'inTooltip' |
| 07:52.09 | Wobin | so it'd be AddDew(2, {"weapon", wpicpvpwepTable}) |
| 07:52.19 | Wobin | oh wait |
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| 07:53.12 | Wobin | actually, I'm not sure what you're after here |
| 07:53.31 | Nirek | I'm trying to build a sub menu for each sub category, for weapon, armor, etc |
| 07:53.40 | Nirek | as doing it as one long dewdrop gets huge |
| 07:54.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Perhaps take a look at the code in Manufac, as I think something similar is done there. |
| 07:54.30 | Boobies4u | pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee release me let me gooo |
| 07:55.03 | Wobin | And what isn't working, Nirek? |
| 07:55.27 | Nirek | it spawns a menu of itself on each arrow, and they're all in the one menu |
| 07:55.50 | Nirek | basically spawns one big menu, and the sub heading arrows lead to.. another menu just like it, heh |
| 07:56.44 | Wobin | ah |
| 07:57.03 | Wobin | okay, you're not passing the value through to OnMenuRequest, then maybe? |
| 07:57.08 | Wobin | er level |
| 07:57.52 | Wobin | You'll need if(level ==2) then AddDew(2. "weapon", tabl) end |
| 07:57.54 | Wobin | or somesuch |
| 07:58.09 | Wobin | (and you wouldn't really need to pass the level onto your custom function) |
| 07:58.45 | Nirek | that's the thing, I have no idea how it's supposed to work, and the wiki doesn't really help, I've been trying everything imaginable most of the night, to begin I was just passing my table |
| 07:59.24 | Wobin | ah, okay |
| 07:59.27 | Kameril | how are you opening dewdrop in the first place? is this a fubar plugin? |
| 07:59.36 | Wobin | OnMenuRequest, takes two main arguments. |
| 07:59.37 | Nirek | its from the onclick of a fubar plugin, yes |
| 07:59.40 | Wobin | level and value |
| 07:59.53 | Wobin | level gets set -by- the addon itself |
| 08:00.03 | Wobin | so if you click once on the addon, it passes '1' |
| 08:00.11 | Wobin | If you go one level deeper into the menu, it passes 2 |
| 08:00.14 | Nirek | I have no onmenurequest anywhere in my addon, heh |
| 08:00.44 | Nirek | evpsets on the svn, if you want to see what the full code looks like before I started trying to make it multilevel |
| 08:00.52 | Wobin | unless you're building an AceOptions table, OMR is the way to go |
| 08:01.00 | Kameril | OnMenuRequest is a provided method from fubar plugin, it's called when you right click the button |
| 08:01.24 | Kameril | that is, should be overwritten with your dewdrop code |
| 08:01.34 | Nirek | I cant really use aceopts, I do too much dynamic creation via table, and I was using left click 'onclick' to open the menu, not rightclick |
| 08:01.35 | Mimesis | is ag_uf bar coloring based on class, not working for other faction targets, a ui limitation or known issue? |
| 08:02.23 | Nirek | oh I take that back, I do have an on menu request, it just points to a placeholder aceopt from when I originally built the addon, heh |
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| 08:04.22 | Xelar | hmm |
| 08:04.38 | Xelar | any one here know what happend to the addon called "oTravi" ? |
| 08:04.44 | Xelar | cant fint it any where |
| 08:04.56 | andremar_ | haste moved it to his own site |
| 08:05.00 | Kameril | http://fuxsake.net/ |
| 08:05.27 | Wobin | He's rewriting it btw |
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| 08:05.37 | Kameril | Nirek: would need to see more of your code, you can't just pass the level to the func like that |
| 08:06.09 | Nirek | svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Evpsets/Evpsets.lua |
| 08:06.29 | Nirek | that was before I started trying to make it multilevel tho, probably best starting point |
| 08:12.33 | Xelar | hmm |
| 08:12.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | i can't figure out how to change the settings on my health bar |
| 08:13.15 | Xelar | thx |
| 08:16.00 | CIA-17 | 03drzoot * r22268 10Axon/ (5 files): |
| 08:16.00 | CIA-17 | Axon: |
| 08:16.00 | CIA-17 | - Seperated some of the components out into their own files |
| 08:16.30 | Mimesis | god ive got this space in my ui that i dont know what to do with, its really pissing me off |
| 08:17.37 | kebinusan | Mimesis, screenshot? |
| 08:18.00 | DrZoot | Yeah I had a space like that in the middle of my ui, i was using it to look through but that seemed silly so I replaced it with an animated dancing gnome ..... hes so cute :P |
| 08:18.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | ug_UF did it |
| 08:18.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | ag_UF |
| 08:18.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | is there documentation on it? |
| 08:19.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | nevermind |
| 08:19.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | found it |
| 08:19.20 | Mimesis | screenshot inc |
| 08:19.24 | kebinusan | I need to retweak my ui, I started using bt3 and its annoying not having bars only show on mouseover, so I need to figure out new ways to access seldomly used things like pet summons... if only necrosis didnt seem to give me like 20kib increasing while idle |
| 08:19.31 | Kemayo | Are there any alternatives to MrPlow? That, like, sort things properly? :P |
| 08:19.46 | kebinusan | ArkInventory? |
| 08:20.24 | Kameril | Nirek: logical way would be something like http://ace.pastey.net/4028 |
| 08:21.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | actually, it didn't really have much doc |
| 08:21.34 | Nirek | neat |
| 08:22.13 | Nirek | I was actually somewhat close to something like that, though I was still fiddling with the adddew function, hehe |
| 08:22.52 | Kameril | btw, declare your tables local =P |
| 08:22.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | how do i configure ag_UF? |
| 08:22.58 | Nirek | they arent? |
| 08:23.14 | Kameril | not in this revision, no |
| 08:23.36 | Kameril | ./aguf config |
| 08:23.45 | kebinusan | RaydenUnicyclist, alt right click on frames |
| 08:23.51 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh alt |
| 08:23.56 | Nirek | hrm thought they were, I did try moving them to a seperate function to get them out of the middle of the addon, but it broke :p |
| 08:23.57 | kebinusan | err control right click |
| 08:24.13 | kebinusan | either maybe |
| 08:24.15 | Mimesis | the red area is the offender: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=480183&poll_id=0&warned=y |
| 08:24.38 | snurre- | wtf, google offline o.O |
| 08:25.28 | jjungnickel | snurre, there is no such thing as "google offline". |
| 08:25.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | k i found that |
| 08:25.43 | RaydenUnicyclist | but still, none of my group members show up |
| 08:25.50 | packetlss | snurre-: must be local, google works just fine for me |
| 08:25.59 | snurre- | hm, everything else works |
| 08:26.00 | snurre- | weird |
| 08:26.05 | snurre- | The server at www.google.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 08:26.09 | Kameril | google is fine for me also |
| 08:26.22 | jjungnickel | snurre, your isp fucked up. it's not google. |
| 08:26.24 | snurre- | probably french isp fucking again then |
| 08:26.36 | jjungnickel | what he said. |
| 08:26.37 | jjungnickel | :> |
| 08:26.50 | Mimesis | does surface lib have a way to force textures on all mods? |
| 08:27.30 | Nirek | hah, got it working, yay |
| 08:27.34 | Nirek | ty Kameril :) |
| 08:28.03 | Kameril | Mimesis: surface:SetGlobal(name) |
| 08:28.11 | Mimesis | awesome ty |
| 08:28.48 | Mimesis | so! any ideas what i can stick into that blank space on my bottom skinner frame |
| 08:29.44 | kebinusan | *shrug* damage meter? |
| 08:29.54 | Mimesis | oh another question, why do multibar buttons use inventory update events when i have them disabled, i didnt think bt3 re used any of those frames |
| 08:30.08 | Mimesis | i suppose but its a bit small for a dmg meter mod |
| 08:30.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Is that a dual-monitor output, or . . ? |
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| 08:30.52 | Mimesis | ya |
| 08:31.19 | Mimesis | right monitor usually has raid related stuff in it |
| 08:31.49 | kebinusan | Id put all my chat crap and such on the right monitor and leave the left as clean as possible |
| 08:32.23 | Mimesis | i wouldnt :P |
| 08:32.29 | Nirek | ick pushing the tables to locals breaks my Add dew function, boo |
| 08:32.32 | Mimesis | i really like chat on my main screen |
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| 08:32.57 | Mimesis | also need my combat log and actions, bigwigs bars are in the top left of the main screen too |
| 08:33.09 | Kameril | declare them local at the top of the addon, you don't have to assign them a table there |
| 08:33.15 | kebinusan | Mimesis, maybe use like some enemy cast bars or cooldown timers in that space |
| 08:33.25 | Mimesis | was thinking about that |
| 08:33.39 | Mimesis | id hate to look down their for enemy castbars tho |
| 08:33.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I say: Put a kitten there. |
| 08:34.00 | Mimesis | and i actually prefer the numbered cooldowns on the bt3 bar i have setup |
| 08:34.39 | Mimesis | also, what simple enemycastbar are people using now, what i mean is, target only, spellcast only, using built in castbar events? |
| 08:35.17 | kebinusan | if you dont care about enemy cooldowns something like mecb works nicely |
| 08:35.42 | Mimesis | mecb, ill look into that |
| 08:35.55 | Mimesis | was kind of hoping for an ocb module tho |
| 08:37.42 | Nirek | hrrm, even at the top I'm getting table, got nil errors, weird |
| 08:41.38 | FatherJim | Anyone here an expert with dropdown boxes? |
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| 08:44.29 | Mimesis | hrm mecb doesnt have options for scale or position |
| 08:44.51 | RaydenUnicyclist | anyone have any idea why ag_UF doesn't display my party members? |
| 08:45.39 | Mimesis | are you in a raid |
| 08:45.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | yes |
| 08:46.04 | RaydenUnicyclist | if i click on someone their name shows up |
| 08:46.07 | RaydenUnicyclist | and i show up |
| 08:46.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | and the enemy i clicked on shows up |
| 08:46.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | but that's it |
| 08:46.17 | Mimesis | there is a hidepartyframes in raid option you could disable |
| 08:48.16 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r22269 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: Rewrite2, now with squishyness |
| 08:48.17 | Kemayo | Any particular reason to use ArkInventory over vBagnon? |
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| 08:48.35 | RaydenUnicyclist | not checked Mimesis |
| 08:49.23 | hanzzon | saw this new addon "Cartographer_Opening" does it use a .lua file to know the places of the chests etc? |
| 08:49.28 | RaydenUnicyclist | my friend just installed UnitFrames and he has the same thing |
| 08:50.12 | Mimesis | rayden: can you check your group setup |
| 08:50.33 | andremar_ | hanzzon: no it adds the places where you open stuff as a map note afaik |
| 08:50.37 | FatherJim | I think it tracks the locations you've seen one. |
| 08:51.15 | Mimesis | rayden: do /aguf config -> unitframes -> groups, check if there is one called party, if not, make one |
| 08:51.17 | hanzzon | andremar_; okay, not for me then, I've got a large database converted from The Gatherer addon... |
| 08:51.36 | Mimesis | also, check you interface settings, you may have hide party in raid enable there |
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| 08:52.14 | Mimesis | also anyone succesfully move mecb around? |
| 08:52.46 | FatherJim | hanzzon - I know that it can be convereted to carto, and a guildie of mine had a 2.3 MB gatherer db, and it's about 2/3 MB under carto. |
| 08:52.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Not sure it's supposed to be movable, I believe it's intended to "dock" to the agUF frames. |
| 08:52.48 | RaydenUnicyclist | how do i check the group setup? |
| 08:53.38 | Mimesis | ya, it does dock, right over where i have my TOT and debufffilter frames |
| 08:53.51 | Mimesis | i just linked you the steps rayden |
| 08:54.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | ok |
| 08:54.29 | Mimesis | also i cant seem to find a frame to move mecb |
| 08:54.29 | hanzzon | FatherJim; I've converted the herb and mine locations just fine, and that works great, but there is no "treasure" module like there was for Gatherer (yet) |
| 08:54.48 | FatherJim | I saw something earlier poseted here about treasure.. I thought |
| 08:54.57 | Kemayo | Mimesis: Last time I checked you had to meddle with the code to change its position. |
| 08:55.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | there is one called party |
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| 08:55.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | Mimesis |
| 08:55.41 | FatherJim | Cartographer_Opening r22267 |
| 08:56.37 | Mimesis | well then thats as much as i can help you rayden :( |
| 08:56.39 | hanzzon | yea, but that is for mapnotes, it does not use a database like the rest of Cartographer does (if I understodd it correctly) |
| 08:56.53 | FatherJim | dunno, just what I saw earlier. :) |
| 08:56.55 | Gagorian | Does Mortal Strike for example reduce the absorbtion of a PW:S? |
| 08:57.01 | Gagorian | *Priests* |
| 08:58.11 | [Cu]Werik | Why should it? |
| 08:59.42 | Nirek | local variables at the top of an addon are usable by any function in that lua, shouldnt they? |
| 08:59.52 | Tekkub | bah noone's awake in #wowwiki |
| 08:59.57 | Tekkub | * Cairenn is now known as Cairenn|afk |
| 08:59.58 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> *sigh* |
| 08:59.58 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> I need to take the FFXI music off my rotation |
| 08:59.58 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> it's making me sad |
| 09:00.08 | Tekkub | heh, one line too many |
| 09:00.31 | Gagorian | [Cu]Werik: Because it could be comparable to a healing effect |
| 09:00.36 | Gagorian | and healing effects are halved |
| 09:00.59 | andremar_ | its not healing, its damage negation |
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| 09:01.12 | Gagorian | andremar_: It gains bonus from healing though |
| 09:01.26 | [Cu]Werik | Otherwise it would suck:P |
| 09:01.30 | andremar_ | that's to make it not suck completly |
| 09:02.05 | Gagorian | well, then, does amplify magic on target increase it? |
| 09:02.10 | Tricksta_ | Gosh damn I wish Ckknight would add Waypoints to Carto, aI refuse to use it until then cause it makes navigating quest coords a pain ... |
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| 09:02.18 | Tricksta_ | Vent off |
| 09:02.23 | andremar_ | Gagorian: dont know |
| 09:02.25 | kebinusan | waypoints? |
| 09:02.33 | Gagorian | If so, wound poison will most likely work the opposite. |
| 09:02.50 | [Cu]Werik | I guess amp magic doesnt change it either |
| 09:02.54 | Nirek | to state it a bit better, if I declare a table local at the top of a lua, a function later in the lua should be able to see the data, no? |
| 09:04.23 | Nargiddley | in that file, yes |
| 09:04.31 | [Cu]Werik | It's basically a divine shield which absorbs only a set amount of dmg |
| 09:05.24 | Nirek | ok, I'm puzzled then, the second I declare my tables local, despite being at the very top of the file, a function near the bottom whines about nils, taking out the locals, all is well |
| 09:05.35 | kebinusan | PW:S is damage mitigation not a heal |
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| 09:06.13 | Nirek | the tablecalls in svn.wowace.com/wowace/Evpsets/Evpsets.lua, makes no sense to me |
| 09:07.02 | andremar_ | Gagorian: Amplify Magic and Wound poison isnt the opposite |
| 09:07.04 | FatherJim | sounds like there might be a variable name local to the function that's then overriding somehow? |
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| 09:07.18 | andremar_ | Amplify Magic gives you up to nn more + healing |
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| 09:07.29 | andremar_ | Wound poison halves (or whatever) healing effects |
| 09:07.48 | Nargiddley | Nirek, you arent redeclaring it in the function are you ? |
| 09:07.57 | Nirek | I don't think so, I'll doublecheck |
| 09:08.34 | hanzzon | anyone know of some addon that changes the "cooking" menu to show if you are missing one reagent of two required? like if you caught some fish but it also requires cold milk or soothing spices to cook but you don't have that in your inventory... then you gotta click through the whole list untill you find it... |
| 09:08.50 | FatherJim | AdvancedTradeSkillWindow |
| 09:09.01 | hanzzon | thnx, I'll have a look |
| 09:09.40 | Nirek | nope, the only place they're ever declared as at the top, unless I've gone crazy |
| 09:09.59 | Nirek | course, at 3am, that's possible :p |
| 09:10.50 | Nargiddley | hm :/ |
| 09:11.34 | Nirek | its one large if block that figures out what class/faction you are and sets a single set of tables that are used elsewhere, without the local infront, all is well |
| 09:12.18 | Nargiddley | ah |
| 09:12.33 | Nargiddley | local will make it only visible to the block its inside |
| 09:13.03 | Nargiddley | the definition is at the top of the file, outside any function or block ? |
| 09:13.13 | Nirek | only its own if blocks |
| 09:13.25 | Nargiddley | if blocks would do it |
| 09:13.46 | FatherJim | Um, here's an idea... |
| 09:13.51 | Nirek | if(UnitFactionGroup("player") == "Alliance") then |
| 09:13.53 | Nirek | if class == ("Warrior") then |
| 09:13.54 | Nirek | epicpvpsetTable = { [16477] = {20250,0,30,0,0,0,0}, |
| 09:14.16 | FatherJim | if you know it will be a table, define it like this: local epicpvpsetTable = {}; if(... |
| 09:14.21 | Nargiddley | local epicpvpsetTable |
| 09:14.30 | Nargiddley | put that line right at the top outside everyblock |
| 09:15.33 | Nirek | just make an empty table for each one at the top then? |
| 09:15.38 | Nirek | if I understand that right |
| 09:15.55 | Nargiddley | shouldnt need the empty table, just the definition at the top |
| 09:16.19 | Nargiddley | so its local to the file, not the if statement |
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| 09:17.07 | FatherJim | Try that, I bet you'll be workin' fine again at the end. |
| 09:17.16 | Nirek | ok, going afk to code in the harpy area in feralas wasn't a good idea, bah this corprse run sucks ass |
| 09:17.32 | FatherJim | lol, that's why I'm sitting in Kharanos on Blackhand. :) |
| 09:18.57 | nevcairiel | being a druid is good for coding, i generally port myself to moonglade if i need some peace :) |
| 09:19.09 | Nirek | cant do that on a pvp server:) |
| 09:19.10 | Nirek | hehe |
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| 09:19.29 | Nirek | I never understood why moonglade is contested |
| 09:20.14 | FatherJim | because both horde and alliance are welcome there by the locals. |
| 09:20.33 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r22270 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: Localized tables |
| 09:20.38 | Tekkub | http://www.pvponline.com/article/3052/tue-dec-26 |
| 09:20.40 | nevcairiel | because tauren druids are really a abomination to the world. |
| 09:20.58 | Nirek | but you'd think the driuds wouldn't allow any bloodshed in their sanc |
| 09:21.02 | Nirek | turary |
| 09:21.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | i found my aguf problem |
| 09:21.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | i had to reset displaying party |
| 09:22.08 | nevcairiel | yeah the cenarion guards will kinda kill you when you start pvp there :D |
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| 09:23.01 | Nirek | in other news, I'm STILL running to my corpse |
| 09:24.35 | Nargiddley | ew |
| 09:26.25 | FatherJim | lol, sorry. :) |
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| 09:31.28 | Nirek | http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot122706032711ux6.jpg |
| 09:31.32 | Nirek | if anyone's curious:) |
| 09:32.17 | FatherJim | Nirek - what are we looking at? :) |
| 09:32.51 | Nirek | ss of my ui heh |
| 09:32.59 | FatherJim | well duh. :) Which part are you working on? :) |
| 09:33.28 | Nirek | nothing in particular, the addon I'm working on is that Evpsets on the fubar menu, its not open tho :p |
| 09:33.47 | Nirek | my druidbar is heavily modified too, among other things |
| 09:33.53 | FatherJim | Pshaw. :) |
| 09:34.37 | Nirek | mostly just wanted opinons on my ui :p |
| 09:34.38 | Nirek | hehe |
| 09:34.42 | kebinusan | Whats evpsets? |
| 09:35.09 | FatherJim | Well, I wouldn't use it. :) But I like most of the original ui. There are some interesting aspects to it though. |
| 09:35.30 | Nirek | its a dewdrop database of all the things you can buy with honor, its my creation, and still a work in progress, its on the svn, though |
| 09:36.04 | FatherJim | But I also use the smallest UIScale I can get too. :) |
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| 09:36.33 | Nirek | heh mine is at full 1 scale |
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| 09:36.56 | Nirek | windowed mode at 1070 something or other, so I can fiddle with other things in the background without wow going nuts |
| 09:37.00 | FatherJim | The UI looks pretty clean though, even if it does cover lots of your screen. :) |
| 09:37.25 | Nirek | it was a bit cleaner before 2.0 |
| 09:37.39 | Nirek | autobar for me for some reason gives me a massive lagspike if I try to use something from it in combat |
| 09:38.00 | Nirek | so I'm using those button bar potions at the top up there in the mean time |
| 09:38.28 | FatherJim | I could always let you see my screenie with my mod open. :) |
| 09:38.43 | Nirek | hehe |
| 09:39.01 | Nirek | even if it doesnt look it, that ss has ~150 mods in it, heh |
| 09:39.05 | FatherJim | I'll have to convert it to JPG first. |
| 09:39.15 | Nirek | at 32 mib memory, whee |
| 09:40.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Where can I find a listing of svn keywords and how they should be properly used on the WoWAce SVN? |
| 09:40.58 | Nirek | the only ones you really use is "Rev Date" in my experience |
| 09:41.31 | Mimesis | man nirek, some things id change in your ui |
| 09:41.32 | nevcairiel | Id ftw |
| 09:41.33 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r22271 10Bartender3/ (9 files): Bartender3: some general house-keeping |
| 09:41.56 | Nirek | wots that Mimesis? :p |
| 09:42.16 | Mimesis | unit frames seem rather large, and you have buttons kinda randomly placed |
| 09:42.17 | andremar_ | Nirek: what is the red circle on the minimap? |
| 09:42.40 | Nirek | Minimaprange, I think it is, on the svn |
| 09:43.07 | Cyatis | If blizzard blocks a function reported as coming from ace2, is there a good method of determining which ui mod was responsible for the function call in the first place? |
| 09:43.18 | Mimesis | and minimap buttons are somethng i really hate, why i dont have any at all |
| 09:43.18 | nevcairiel | not really Cyatis |
| 09:43.28 | Nirek | the upper buttons are mostly for tradeskill type stuff, the ones on the right I never got around to hiding, heh |
| 09:43.40 | FatherJim | http://slayernet.org/images/FatherJim_UI.jpg |
| 09:44.13 | Nirek | jesus that's alot of fubars |
| 09:44.14 | Nirek | hehe |
| 09:44.22 | FatherJim | :D |
| 09:44.36 | FatherJim | 247 mods, only 33 MB. :) |
| 09:45.03 | Nirek | nod, I'd have more, but I really try not to have more than one fubar panel |
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| 09:45.16 | andremar_ | http://palle.net/~omega/wow/wow-screenshot3.png my ui |
| 09:45.27 | Nirek | I wish Swstats had more than 48 hour auto purge |
| 09:46.01 | FatherJim | and only 91 not loaded. :) |
| 09:46.19 | Mimesis | i think ive shown my ui already :P |
| 09:46.50 | Nirek | and my unit frames are large so I can actually see my hp :p |
| 09:46.58 | Nirek | I dont/wont use a hud |
| 09:47.27 | Wobin | hrm, |
| 09:47.35 | Mimesis | i dislike huds too |
| 09:47.40 | Wobin | anyone know a way to register a tablet frame off a dewdrop menu? |
| 09:47.41 | FatherJim | Interesting Andremar_... I like the minimap art |
| 09:48.46 | Wobin | I wish I had a screen like that =P |
| 09:49.40 | FatherJim | I have 2 side by side 1280x1024, for 2560x1024 |
| 09:50.39 | Wobin | QQ |
| 09:50.56 | Gagorian | how do I get the number of elements in a table if they aren't indexed? |
| 09:51.00 | Wobin | Don't you lose a bit in the middle? |
| 09:51.03 | Gagorian | getn and # doesn't obviously work |
| 09:51.13 | Wobin | Gagorian: You'll have to count them |
| 09:51.19 | FatherJim | me? lol, that's why I run WOW on one side, and everything else on the other. :) |
| 09:51.20 | nevcairiel | iterate with pairs over them |
| 09:51.28 | Gagorian | Seems idiotic :( |
| 09:51.35 | FatherJim | Nice to have Thott up at same time as my game, or my mod code, etc. :) |
| 09:51.37 | nevcairiel | i wonder why lua doesnt offer a function todo that |
| 09:51.49 | Gagorian | yeah, there should definately be one |
| 09:52.19 | FatherJim | um, you just want the # of elemenets? put a # in front of it. |
| 09:52.38 | Gagorian | That works only if they're indexed |
| 09:52.38 | Mimesis | here is a better look at mine |
| 09:52.39 | Mimesis | http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=480188 |
| 09:52.56 | FatherJim | i.e. if I have self.db.profiles.[value1], I can get #self.db.profiles |
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| 09:54.09 | Sole | heya |
| 09:54.26 | Sole | does anyone know the frame name of the battleground scoreboard? |
| 09:55.14 | Mimesis | WorldStateScoreFrame i think |
| 09:55.46 | Sole | theres a WorldStateFrame, Ill have a look at it, thanks :) |
| 09:56.37 | Mimesis | there is also i WorldStateScoreFrame |
| 09:56.41 | Mimesis | a* |
| 09:56.58 | Nargiddley | hmm i need a name for my bag addon, everything i try is taken D: |
| 09:57.28 | yacoob | Nargiddley, Baggins? :) |
| 09:57.55 | Nargiddley | hmm, not taken |
| 09:57.59 | FatherJim | loudmouth!... er, ... um... wait. :) |
| 09:58.04 | Wobin | nono |
| 09:58.07 | Wobin | hobbitses |
| 09:58.26 | Sole | hm |
| 09:58.27 | FatherJim | ok, now that one is a stretch. lol |
| 09:58.45 | Sole | can a FontString have an OnClick handler or would I have to make it a button? |
| 09:59.22 | Sole | Im out of practise when it comes to GUI knowledge =\ |
| 09:59.45 | FatherJim | I'm not sure... |
| 09:59.58 | FatherJim | I think you have to make it a button, but might work if you have enablemouse=true |
| 10:00.04 | FatherJim | can't hurt to try it. :) |
| 10:00.43 | Nargiddley | i think fontstrings are just a graphical layer and cant take mouse input |
| 10:01.23 | Sole | hmm |
| 10:01.41 | Sole | well I read an idea on WoWI to have an addon for sorting the battleground scoreboard |
| 10:01.55 | Sole | I figure what Ill do is simply hook the header text for each column |
| 10:02.27 | Sole | and when the user clicks on a header the board is sorted according to that column |
| 10:02.32 | Mimesis | i posted that idea, on some boards sometime lol |
| 10:02.38 | Mimesis | prolly not same post tho |
| 10:03.04 | Sole | hehe |
| 10:03.10 | Sole | hmm |
| 10:03.58 | andremar_ | ahh, I've been wanting something like that as well :p |
| 10:04.01 | andremar_ | please make it happen sole :) |
| 10:04.13 | Sole | well each header is its own frame so I can hook the OnClick of that |
| 10:04.35 | Sole | andremar_: Ill try, Ive never had to hook in WoW yet so this is new to me |
| 10:05.20 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick 07libs * r22274 10Voyeur/: - Set externals. Hopefully. |
| 10:05.30 | andremar_ | Sole: hehe :p |
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| 10:08.24 | Sole | ok |
| 10:08.25 | Sole | gimme a name |
| 10:08.29 | Sole | :P |
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| 10:08.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. |
| 10:08.46 | FatherJim | Slurm? |
| 10:08.49 | Laric | Is oCB and oCD gone? |
| 10:08.53 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, that's not quite working right. |
| 10:08.59 | evl | haste is taking his time updating afaik |
| 10:09.12 | ZealotOnAStick | but it's 5 a.m., I'm going to give up for tonight, and come back to it later. |
| 10:09.32 | Laric | evl they arent in trunk at all afaik? |
| 10:09.51 | evl | dunno why :D |
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| 10:11.23 | Neriak | hi |
| 10:11.24 | Laric | I saw a commit that removed them.. no explanation though |
| 10:11.58 | andremar_ | he moved to his own site |
| 10:12.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Haste got pissed because someone kept committing stuff to his addons (I think oCB was the camel-back-breaking straw) despite his clearly stated "don't do that, send me a diff or example of your changes" stuff in his addons. |
| 10:12.50 | ZealotOnAStick | so he removed everything but Surface from the ace SVN, is moving to Google Code, and rewriting things, when he gets around to it. |
| 10:12.52 | FatherJim | well, ask to have it locked down then. :) |
| 10:13.04 | ZealotOnAStick | been suggested multiple times. |
| 10:13.20 | ZealotOnAStick | anyway . . . |
| 10:13.36 | Neriak | I can understand haste. If there's a bug in my addons, well fix it. But I should decide which features to add. |
| 10:14.28 | Sole | people commiting to Antagonsit piss me off usually |
| 10:14.42 | Sole | unless its someone like shiftos who added complete spanish localization..woot |
| 10:14.45 | Wobin | << |
| 10:14.46 | Wobin | >> |
| 10:14.50 | Neriak | hrhr |
| 10:14.53 | Wobin | I'm quite happy for people to edit my addons =P |
| 10:14.57 | Neriak | shiftos is a crazy dude |
| 10:15.14 | Neriak | one evening I think he commited like 30 translations |
| 10:15.18 | FatherJim | wow. |
| 10:15.33 | Sole | I dont mind them editing it actually, I just hate the errors I get when I dont update to the newest revision and I try to commit some changes |
| 10:15.34 | FatherJim | I think I'd prefer people not be editing mine, but if they want to give me a translation file, sure, I'd take it. :) |
| 10:15.41 | Sole | I have to revert and go through this procedure |
| 10:16.29 | Sole | which couldve been avoided by a simple post in the thread, "hey I added this and change that , just an FYI" |
| 10:16.58 | Neriak | It's ok when they're commiting hot fixes or localization. As long as the fixes are coded well and not just hacked. Less work for me, more spare time to use :) |
| 10:17.09 | Daemona_ | well even if its "open source" ppl should respect the author |
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| 10:17.59 | Neriak | I guess the problem with that special guy commited features to oCB was, that he doesn't understand english well. |
| 10:18.09 | Neriak | I heard he did it to other addons, too. |
| 10:18.21 | Wobin | hey ck, can you help me out with TabletLib? |
| 10:18.30 | Laric | anyone have the link to his new site then? (haste I mean) |
| 10:18.42 | Neriak | http://fuxsake.net i think |
| 10:19.06 | Neriak | or its http://www.fuxsake.net dunno |
| 10:20.01 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r22275 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: Add support to begin adding blue items and sets |
| 10:20.18 | Neriak | Laric: it's the latter |
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| 10:21.31 | Neriak | oPoison the former oTravi looks sexy |
| 10:21.40 | Neriak | http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/addons/opoison/opoison-2.png |
| 10:21.52 | Neriak | preview link from haste's site |
| 10:22.39 | Wobin | It is =) |
| 10:22.41 | Wobin | I <3 it |
| 10:22.45 | Necrathex | nice |
| 10:22.49 | Sole | nice |
| 10:23.31 | Iceroth | i can completely understand someone getting angry at ppl poking their stuff.. i got furious when someone committed number of features/changes to icehud that i don't want there to be |
| 10:23.51 | yacoob | how about simply putting access control in place? |
| 10:23.52 | [Liquidor] | hi |
| 10:23.59 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
| 10:24.04 | Nirek | hmm, do I need to localize UnitFactionGroup("player") == "Alliance") or class = UnitClass("player") ? |
| 10:24.22 | Fisker- | it's atropine now Neriak :P |
| 10:24.34 | Arrowmaster | do _,class = UnitClass("player") |
| 10:24.53 | Nirek | eh? |
| 10:24.53 | Iceroth | well correct me if i'm wrong but the way i see ace svn is that it's just a version control system that i use, stuff i put there is still mine and if someone wants to touch any of it, (s)he asks me first |
| 10:25.02 | Arrowmaster | UnitFactionGroup() might have a second nonlocalized return too not sure |
| 10:25.56 | Fumler[N] | anyone got a ported oUF? :< |
| 10:26.06 | Nirek | faction group supposedly isnt localized at all, if the wowwiki can be believed |
| 10:26.24 | Arrowmaster | test it ingame using /print |
| 10:26.31 | Nirek | UnitFactionGroup("unit") - Returns the faction group id and name of the specified unit. (eg. "Alliance") - string returned is localization-independent (used in filepath) |
| 10:26.55 | Fisker- | I think it's ok to fix stuff |
| 10:27.04 | CIA-17 | 03nimbal 07Nimbal * r22276 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:27.04 | CIA-17 | Buffalo (branch): |
| 10:27.04 | CIA-17 | - Fixed replication of icons |
| 10:27.04 | CIA-17 | - Removed table recycling for now, it caused problems |
| 10:27.04 | CIA-17 | - Fixed anchoring |
| 10:27.07 | Fisker- | but if you want to add features you should make a branch which the developer can then check himself |
| 10:27.08 | Nirek | it gives me "Horde", "Horde" |
| 10:27.14 | Neriak | Fisker-: what's atropine? new name of haste's addon? |
| 10:27.28 | Fisker- | that's the new name of otravi/opoisons |
| 10:27.41 | Fumler[N] | oPoison fits ALOT more ^^ |
| 10:27.48 | Arrowmaster | Nirek: then i would suggest using the second return |
| 10:28.00 | Neriak | ah nice .. actually I had to check dict.leo.org to translate and searched for Atropin on the wiki hehe, never heard of |
| 10:28.44 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22277 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules/PlayerNames.lua): Prat: More fixes for SSBGReformat Compatibility |
| 10:29.20 | Fisker- | atropine is a poison |
| 10:29.25 | Neriak | yep |
| 10:30.01 | Neriak | lol, english wiki doesn't know 'atropine' |
| 10:30.32 | Neriak | but the german does - we win ^^ |
| 10:30.36 | Neriak | hehe |
| 10:31.11 | Neriak | phyber: wake up dude |
| 10:32.04 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r22278 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: Locals fix, hopefully |
| 10:33.22 | Fisker- | [Cu]Werik |
| 10:33.23 | Fisker- | i gotta whine |
| 10:34.37 | [Cu]Werik | :-P |
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| 10:35.24 | [VM]Ausome | Quick Prat question: Is there a way to lock my chat tabs so I cant accidentally drag them out of the main chat box? |
| 10:37.07 | sylvanaar | just lock them via the blizzard lock command |
| 10:38.28 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22279 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: debug line removed, would create temp tables if left in |
| 10:38.38 | Fisker- | [Cu]Werik get your damn sites up again :P |
| 10:38.58 | [Cu]Werik | :O? |
| 10:39.20 | Fisker- | i get a "page not found" on some(probably all addons) |
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| 10:39.51 | [Cu]Werik | For example? |
| 10:39.57 | Neriak | wtf: ArkInventory\ArkInventory.lua:1: attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value) |
| 10:40.07 | Fisker- | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1513/wow-model-viewer/ <-page not found |
| 10:40.09 | Neriak | always getting the same error in this addon ... |
| 10:40.12 | anenigma_ | what with gmail being mia/whatever, are there any mass-mailing mods that don't have idiotic dependancies |
| 10:40.15 | Fisker- | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5360/theorycraft-2/ <-server error |
| 10:40.59 | Fisker- | bulkmail |
| 10:41.04 | Neriak | does anyone have the same issue with ArkInventory? |
| 10:41.07 | [Cu]Werik | mwv is odd, theorycraft is working:) |
| 10:41.31 | Fisker- | wqwell sure as hell not here :( |
| 10:42.01 | [Cu]Werik | There is no such page as wow-model-viever, where did you get that from? |
| 10:42.05 | [Cu]Werik | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1427/wowmodelview/ |
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| 10:42.38 | Daemona_ | just take wowmodelviewer.org? |
| 10:43.03 | Fisker- | wowmodelview is the old version [Cu]Werik |
| 10:43.12 | Fisker- | Darjk took over developement |
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| 10:43.18 | Fisker- | which is where i got the page from |
| 10:43.27 | Fisker- | "WoW Model Viewer (in limbo)" |
| 10:43.30 | Fisker- | is the name |
| 10:44.16 | [Cu]Werik | I can't help that. There is no such project as 'WoW Model Viewer' or at least I cant find it |
| 10:44.40 | Fisker- | well still on my favorites page O_o |
| 10:44.53 | Fisker- | and it had an update yesterday |
| 10:45.12 | [Cu]Werik | Mistery |
| 10:45.42 | [Cu]Werik | It's in the database but it doesnt show up on the site at all, nice catch:) |
| 10:47.41 | Fisker- | you shouldn't happen to have aeus' email? :P |
| 10:47.46 | Fisker- | i got an idea |
| 10:47.59 | phyber | Neriak: sup |
| 10:48.13 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r22280 10ArkInventory/ArkInventory.toc: |
| 10:48.13 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 10:48.13 | CIA-17 | - fixed TOC for people using standalone libs. you have to add OptDepts to get them loaded. |
| 10:48.16 | Neriak | sup phyber |
| 10:49.02 | Sole | I need a better name than BattlegroundScoreSort or BGScoreSort |
| 10:49.06 | Neriak | phyber: did you have any luck finding the buyout sort issue? |
| 10:49.06 | Sole | daym cmon |
| 10:49.33 | Daemona | hmmm an auctioneer beta :/ |
| 10:49.34 | phyber | Neriak: nope. Tested in beta and it failed. so I wrote something about it in the EU beta bug forum. |
| 10:49.44 | andremar_ | Sole: SortMyScores |
| 10:49.47 | phyber | would help if someone could do it in US too, since EU doesn't get read. |
| 10:49.53 | andremar_ | Sole: ShowMeIPWN |
| 10:50.08 | Neriak | phyber: oh great. sorry I'm german, don't have write permissions on US boards ;) |
| 10:50.13 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22281 10Prat/Prat/ (19 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Brought current with trunk changes |
| 10:50.15 | phyber | :) |
| 10:50.33 | Neriak | phyber: I also think it's a bug .. nothing have changed from what I've seen in Blizz's code |
| 10:50.38 | Fisker- | ya think, phyber? |
| 10:51.00 | Neriak | slouken != EU |
| 10:51.06 | Neriak | that's why ;) |
| 10:51.33 | Sole | maybe ScoreSort |
| 10:51.57 | Neriak | I also heard he's in #wowace sometimes, undercover ... his nick is purl |
| 10:52.40 | neenee | is there a way for ClosetGnome_Zones to override ClosetGnome_Switches when in a zone setup in Zones? |
| 10:52.42 | Neriak | phyber: when do you get your hands of Fence_Bookmarks again? the need is big :) |
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| 10:53.13 | Neriak | s/of/on/ |
| 10:53.44 | phyber | Neriak: soon, I hope :) |
| 10:53.57 | phyber | I didn't play wow too much recently, so i kind of slowed down. |
| 10:54.02 | phyber | I'll see if I can do some stuff tonight :) |
| 10:54.12 | phyber | in work at the moment. swapping out some old servers. |
| 10:54.13 | Neriak | aye, that would be fine :) |
| 10:54.27 | Neriak | Fence is somewhat getting famous hehe |
| 10:54.34 | phyber | cool :) |
| 10:54.56 | Neriak | I think it's the hype about Kaelten embedding Fence :P |
| 10:54.59 | Neriak | for KCI |
| 10:55.43 | phyber | neat |
| 10:55.44 | Sole | wth is Fence/ |
| 10:55.49 | Sole | < out of the loop |
| 10:55.57 | Neriak | http://wowace.com/wiki/Fence |
| 10:57.27 | phyber | Neriak: what's the module that's adding "- Bid" next to things in the AH now? |
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| 10:58.30 | Neriak | SinglePrice |
| 10:58.34 | phyber | ah |
| 10:58.49 | andremar_ | Sole: FromChaosToCosmos :p |
| 10:59.03 | neenee | I really like fence ;) |
| 10:59.06 | Neriak | kergoth told me there are addon's that just grey out the bid price on the right side, when there's a bid on an item |
| 10:59.14 | neenee | I use it an Mendelev to replace Auctioneer at the moment |
| 10:59.26 | Neriak | nice neenee :) |
| 10:59.55 | Neriak | I think I'll make this an option for SinglePrice ... greying out the bid price |
| 11:00.09 | Neriak | instead of printing - Bid |
| 11:00.21 | Neriak | However it still looks sexy ^^ |
| 11:00.25 | phyber | ah, so the - Bid just means someone already bid on it? |
| 11:00.32 | Neriak | yes |
| 11:00.47 | phyber | cool. I thought it was telling me that it was some kind of bargain ;) |
| 11:00.53 | Neriak | amazing feature if you ask me hehe |
| 11:00.57 | phyber | yeah, it's great. |
| 11:01.15 | Neriak | I wonder why this is not seen as a cheat |
| 11:01.22 | Neriak | you could have an advantage of it |
| 11:01.30 | Neriak | since normal AH users won't see it |
| 11:01.32 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r22282 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Bars/Stuns.lua: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Oops stuns work now |
| 11:01.36 | nevcairiel | you can see it |
| 11:01.40 | phyber | ls |
| 11:01.40 | Neriak | how? |
| 11:01.50 | Gagorian- | How do I remove the macro name text from an actionbutton if I have the button and know it has text? |
| 11:01.56 | Arrowmaster | by selecting the item and looking at the bid price it puts in the box |
| 11:02.01 | Necrathex | click on auction and check if the bidding price is the same or higher |
| 11:02.01 | Neriak | ahhh |
| 11:02.04 | Neriak | true |
| 11:02.18 | nevcairiel | my explanation was too long, they beat me to it :P |
| 11:02.24 | Neriak | ok, so I'm not cheating and everything is fine :P |
| 11:02.29 | Neriak | hrhr |
| 11:03.48 | nevcairiel | looking for a new realm kinda sucks |
| 11:04.11 | Neriak | yeah nevcairiel: do you plan on making the macro text hide optionally? |
| 11:04.35 | nevcairiel | maybe |
| 11:04.40 | Neriak | thanks ;) |
| 11:04.45 | Gagorian- | How can you hide macro text anyway? |
| 11:05.00 | Gagorian- | button:SetText("") doesn't seem to work |
| 11:05.25 | nevcairiel | Its a bit more complicated :D |
| 11:05.32 | Gagorian- | well I figured ;) |
| 11:05.35 | Neriak | ActionButtonMacroText? |
| 11:05.43 | Neriak | ActionButton1MacroText? |
| 11:05.45 | Neriak | dunno |
| 11:05.53 | nevcairiel | i think it would be getglobal(button:GetName() .. "MacroText") or something like that |
| 11:05.54 | Neriak | seen something similar in Vizor |
| 11:06.06 | Neriak | err Visor |
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| 11:07.56 | Gagorian- | nevcairiel: that's at least nill |
| 11:08.00 | Gagorian- | -l |
| 11:08.25 | Gagorian- | anything else? |
| 11:08.39 | nevcairiel | i am too lazy to think |
| 11:11.16 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22283 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/Buttons.lua): Prat: Converted buttons, updated the menu code to reflect correct module state |
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| 11:13.29 | Fisker- | nice |
| 11:13.35 | neenee | Hm. Getting lots of StopTheSpam error messages. |
| 11:13.35 | Fisker- | rexxar got his own model in expansio |
| 11:13.37 | Fisker- | expansion |
| 11:14.10 | Neriak | Man, ArkInventory really ownz ... I can't resist adding deDE localization to it :) |
| 11:14.28 | neenee | http://pastebin.ca/293260 |
| 11:14.57 | Neriak | neenee: are you using bugsack? |
| 11:15.23 | andremar_ | whats ArkInventory? |
| 11:15.31 | Neriak | neenee: just enable the addon message filter in bugsack |
| 11:16.23 | Neriak | andremar_: hm bag addon with extremely cool sorting functions ... should be on acewiki already |
| 11:16.52 | Neriak | ah, nope it isn't |
| 11:17.22 | Neriak | what was the name of the similar addon .. EngInventory ? |
| 11:17.49 | Neriak | can't remember because I never used it. |
| 11:17.56 | andremar_ | Neriak: sounds cool |
| 11:18.14 | andremar_ | Neriak: does it store for all characters? so I can view alts banks etc? |
| 11:18.49 | Gagorian- | nevcairiel: getglobal(button:GetName() .. "Name"):Hide() |
| 11:18.54 | Gagorian- | Works |
| 11:20.11 | neenee | Neriak: yes |
| 11:20.31 | neenee | And yes, Enginventory is similar |
| 11:21.55 | [Liquidor] | function Alpha(...) end -- how do I pull out the arguments of ... ? |
| 11:22.08 | [Liquidor] | And what is the name of ... btw? |
| 11:34.00 | FatherJim | Anyone here good with DropDowns? |
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| 11:41.18 | Deviad | Can anyone tell me how to solve a problem with bartender3 and audiofu, which is they appear deattached from the bar in the middle-left of the screen |
| 11:41.24 | Deviad | ? |
| 11:41.58 | Wobin | l |
| 11:42.01 | Deviad | I don't know how to move them and when I disable - rieanble them I get "fatality" |
| 11:42.26 | Deviad | This after doing a check file with Blizzard utility because the game kept on crashing |
| 11:42.36 | Deviad | something that didn't happen yesterday though |
| 11:42.44 | Deviad | Can anyone help me? |
| 11:43.32 | FatherJim | I'm wondering if I'm the only one 'alive' in here, and I have no clue. |
| 11:44.28 | Deviad | :\ |
| 11:44.48 | Deviad | Cool seams like I have to disable all of the plugins |
| 11:44.52 | Deviad | :( |
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| 11:45.48 | Kaelten | ok I installed ubunto and the screen saver is kinda interesting |
| 11:45.59 | neenee | *Ubuntu |
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| 11:46.10 | Kaelten | it just showed me the chemical structure of metaphetamine |
| 11:46.12 | Kaelten | neenee: hehe, sorry |
| 11:46.16 | neenee | :) |
| 11:46.19 | zoktar | anyone know what addons added this "5 second bar" thing? |
| 11:46.45 | phreaky | NabuFiveSec Maybe |
| 11:47.01 | FatherJim | RegenFu |
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| 11:47.46 | zoktar | weird i didnt even have it enabled |
| 11:47.59 | zoktar | enabled it and disbled it and its gone :) |
| 11:48.17 | phreaky | Hm .. any1 know why /cast Create Spellstone works but not /Cast Create Spellstone (Major) |
| 11:48.51 | FatherJim | Nope. Kaelten - You familiar with DropDowns? |
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| 11:49.38 | Kaelten | ? |
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| 11:49.45 | YammYgirlcoding | good morning darling ! |
| 11:49.55 | FatherJim | As in the UIDropDownMenu stuff? |
| 11:50.09 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaelten !! hello!! |
| 11:50.37 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm here for news about onebag! =) |
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| 11:52.22 | sbu | morning! :) |
| 11:52.26 | neenee | Good morning :) |
| 11:52.33 | YammYgirlcoding | ^^ |
| 11:54.21 | sbu | Arkayenro: arkinventory is soo uber :) nice work |
| 11:56.40 | YammYgirlcoding | can i have both ace1 and ace2 running? |
| 11:56.52 | YammYgirlcoding | or even need it? |
| 11:56.59 | FatherJim | I believe so. It appears to be for me. |
| 11:57.43 | nevcairiel | i think ace1 wont work for 2.0 anymore |
| 11:57.58 | neenee | Is there a way for ClosetGnome_Zones to override ClosetGnome_Switches when in a zone setup in Zones? |
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| 12:04.19 | neenee | oki. I'll remove switches for now and manually switch when in instances. |
| 12:06.07 | Neriak | Arkayenro: are you there? |
| 12:07.48 | Gagorian- | string.find( macroName, '(%d)') how can I force it to use the parenthesis? |
| 12:07.54 | Gagorian- | \ doesn't seem to do anything |
| 12:08.49 | usz | %( does the trick |
| 12:09.08 | Gagorian- | thanks |
| 12:10.56 | Arkayenro | sorry, yeah, i'm here was playing/tetsing |
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| 12:13.59 | Arkayenro | string.find returns start, end, capture try strmatch if you only want the capture |
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| 12:18.03 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro 07v1.26 beta 2006-12-27-23-15 * r22284 10ArkInventory/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:18.03 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 12:18.03 | CIA-17 | - v1.26 beta 2006-12-27-23-15 |
| 12:18.59 | andremar_ | now thats what I call a branch-name :p |
| 12:20.36 | [Liquidor] | How should my sub look like to remove the first word + the space next to of a line? Exmaple: "!Word aaaaa bbbbcccc dddd" |
| 12:21.19 | Mikma | whee, another arkinv |
| 12:21.25 | sbu | Mikma! |
| 12:21.46 | Mikma | sbu |
| 12:22.25 | sbu | cant see another arkinv :p |
| 12:22.45 | sbu | heh wtf |
| 12:23.05 | Mikma | <1418> <CIA-17> arkayenro v1.26 beta 2006-12-27-23-15 * r22284 ArkInventory/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:23.08 | Mikma | what about now |
| 12:23.17 | sbu | uhm - no :p |
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| 12:25.00 | kebinusan | mmm new ArkInventory, whats changed? |
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| 12:25.22 | Kemayo | Surely you can read the informative commit messages for details! |
| 12:26.40 | CIA-17 | 03drzoot * r22285 10Axon/ (Axon.lua AxonBar.lua): Axon: Made some of the global options apply properly, Bars now have some config options |
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| 12:29.09 | Kemayo | Ahhh, all is explained. ArkInventory was commited directly to tags! |
| 12:29.42 | kebinusan | ! |
| 12:29.42 | Kemayo | Which is *really* messed up, admittedly. |
| 12:29.42 | Kemayo | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/ArkInventory/ |
| 12:29.50 | sbu | yep... |
| 12:29.54 | kebinusan | Simple error Im sure |
| 12:30.09 | sbu | need changelog from readme.txt? :p |
| 12:30.36 | kebinusan | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/ArkInventory/v1.26%20beta%202006-12-27-23-15/ReadMe.txt |
| 12:30.40 | sbu | mh k |
| 12:31.35 | sbu | ...due to requiring approx 15k to create each button (thats 2mb for a bank with all 16 slot bags) <-- ewww ;) |
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| 12:34.20 | Kemayo | ....that does seem a bit over-the-top. |
| 12:35.20 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten-Laptop] by ChanServ |
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| 12:36.53 | Neriak | hey there Kaelten's Laptop ^^ |
| 12:38.25 | Tornhoof | 15kb is kinda large tbh |
| 12:38.43 | Kaelten-Laptop | Hi there Neriak :P |
| 12:38.56 | nevcairiel | 15kb for one button? |
| 12:39.00 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with that addon ? :P |
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| 12:39.05 | Kaelten-Laptop | Got a problem with it :P |
| 12:39.11 | Neriak | :) |
| 12:39.17 | sbu | discord mode on :/ |
| 12:39.33 | Kaelten-Laptop | Whats sad is that I have my laptop set up so that I can use it at the same time as my desktop, one keyboard under the other and one mouse next to the other |
| 12:39.43 | Tornhoof | i dunno, maybe he copies the texture to each entry of his data array |
| 12:39.59 | Tornhoof | use vnc ;) |
| 12:40.11 | Tornhoof | or similar |
| 12:40.39 | DrZoot | this is kinda cool http://www.swimbots.com/ |
| 12:40.43 | nevcairiel | Kaelten-Laptop: i bet you always use the wrong mouse? :) |
| 12:40.55 | Neriak | hrhr |
| 12:40.56 | Kaelten-Laptop | Some Times :) |
| 12:40.56 | Teomyr | http://synergy2.sourceforge.net |
| 12:41.18 | sbu | Kaelten-Laptop: go, get another wow account |
| 12:41.24 | Teomyr | check that, kaelten, might be helpful to you ;) |
| 12:41.27 | Kaelten-Laptop | sbu: lol |
| 12:41.34 | sbu | xzin-like |
| 12:41.40 | Tornhoof | yeh synergy is fine for that too |
| 12:41.41 | nevcairiel | ooh |
| 12:41.48 | nevcairiel | that synergy looks interesting |
| 12:42.25 | Nargiddley | 2mb for a full bank of buttons sounds about the same as the one i'm writing, not doing anything special with creating the buttons :/ |
| 12:42.50 | sbu | ahhh |
| 12:42.58 | sbu | seperate windows for bank+bag in arkinv - nice |
| 12:43.09 | Neriak | Is it really useful to have outdated BlizzardUI files in tags? I'm all for delete ;) |
| 12:45.41 | FatherJim | Yeah, I eat those for breakfast... lol... nope. :) |
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| 12:47.13 | Neriak | yeah to hell with it .. at least add WoW 2.0.1 files ;) |
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| 12:55.26 | Kaelten-Laptop | omg synergy is awesome |
| 12:55.34 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaelten have u added new bank bag to OneBag yet? |
| 12:55.45 | Kaelten-Laptop | YammYgirlcoding: a week or two ago yes |
| 12:56.05 | YammYgirlcoding | ah cool. so now the addon is perfect and sharp! :D |
| 12:57.37 | YammYgirlcoding | now an existencial question: My employeers dont pay me since dec 10th. would i be a bad girl if i 'not-work' until next year? =] |
| 12:58.06 | nevcairiel | if you plan to not-work the next year at all, go for it :D |
| 12:58.23 | FatherJim | I haven't been employed since... May 2005 |
| 12:58.38 | Kaelten | FatherJim: :P |
| 12:58.38 | YammYgirlcoding | would u feel mood to work with this 'no-payment' ? |
| 12:58.51 | andremar_ | YammYgirlcoding: you should be working, if for nothing else, so for sympathy with those of us who need to work between christmas and new years |
| 12:59.09 | FatherJim | Well, I got laid off, tried starting a business, and that hasn't gone well. :) |
| 12:59.17 | YammYgirlcoding | ah but they are receiving their salary... |
| 12:59.41 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm like. they don't pay me. so I dont want to work till they pay me. |
| 13:00.01 | Tovort | hmm you might loose some of your claims though that way |
| 13:00.50 | YammYgirlcoding | my manager had alread fled to his parents house in another city and will back after new year.. |
| 13:01.03 | YammYgirlcoding | why should I work if even my manager gave up! |
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| 13:01.35 | YammYgirlcoding | he didnt received his salary, and so nobody in company. like 100 employees with no salary since dec 10th. ruined xmas for everyone |
| 13:02.13 | YammYgirlcoding | and we already received last month payment on november 26. |
| 13:02.34 | YammYgirlcoding | u'd feel like work in this situation? |
| 13:02.48 | CIA-17 | 03fatherjim * r22286 10loudmouth/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:02.48 | CIA-17 | loudmouth: |
| 13:02.48 | CIA-17 | 2006-12-27 version 0.5 |
| 13:02.48 | CIA-17 | -LUA- Modified Loudmouth:Spew() to consolidate the debug messages a bit. |
| 13:02.48 | CIA-17 | -LUA- Fix GUI Scroll Bars. Mousewheel also scrolls quote list, if full enough to scroll. |
| 13:02.49 | CIA-17 | -LUA- Fixed Num_Quotes to automatically count quotes without having to manually traverse the data. |
| 13:02.51 | CIA-17 | -LUA- Added code to cause the edit box to get focus when you click on a quote to edit it. |
| 13:02.52 | Neriak | get a dozen of weapons and go amok, yay! :P |
| 13:03.03 | andremar_ | go postal! |
| 13:03.06 | YammYgirlcoding | lol |
| 13:03.12 | FatherJim | Sorry. :) |
| 13:03.29 | FatherJim | Figured I would at least try to document my changes nicely. :) |
| 13:04.01 | Neriak | It's ok, CIA-17 is the spammer .. not you FatherJim ;) |
| 13:04.17 | Fisker- | http://nov.4chan.org/gif/src/1167222332466.gif <-kinda safe for work :P |
| 13:05.04 | FryGuy | noo |
| 13:08.14 | sylvanaar | zoktar: pink |
| 13:08.19 | sylvanaar | lame |
| 13:08.26 | sylvanaar | zoktar: ping |
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| 13:10.12 | [Liquidor] | Anything wrong with _, _, cmd, arg1 = string.find(arg1, '!(%w+) (.+)') ? |
| 13:10.23 | [Liquidor] | arg1 = "!cmd test" -- works |
| 13:10.28 | [Liquidor] | arg1 = "!cmd" -- doesn'twork |
| 13:10.36 | FryGuy | try |
| 13:10.44 | FryGuy | '!(%w+) ?(.+)' |
| 13:11.09 | FryGuy | er |
| 13:11.11 | FryGuy | '!(%w+) ?(.*)' |
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| 13:11.38 | FryGuy | or '!(%w+)( .+)?' |
| 13:11.46 | FryGuy | i'm not sure which is more efficient |
| 13:12.32 | [Liquidor] | none of them can be used |
| 13:12.49 | FryGuy | ? |
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| 13:13.03 | andremar_ | [Liquidor]: because the regexp expests w+(space)(one or more characters) |
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| 13:13.33 | [Liquidor] | hmm |
| 13:13.38 | [Liquidor] | '!(%w+) ?(.*)' works atm |
| 13:13.50 | andremar_ | I'm not particularly familiar with lua regexp style, but perhaps (%w+)(?:| (.+)) |
| 13:13.57 | [Liquidor] | ill get back to you if it suddently doesn't :) |
| 13:15.03 | zoktar | sylvanaar ? =) |
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| 13:42.04 | kagaro | morning |
| 13:42.47 | kagaro | ~seen ckknight |
| 13:43.15 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 35m 11s ago, saying: 'I'll email it'. |
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| 13:54.10 | CIA-17 | 03shadmar * r22287 10GridStatusHots/ (. GridStatusHots.lua GridStatusHots.toc): GridStatusHots: Initial |
| 13:54.39 | sylvanaar | zoktar: what version are you having 5 sec bar issues with |
| 13:54.50 | kagaro | ~seen damjau |
| 13:55.00 | purl | damjau <i=________@58.77.154.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 58d 7h 9m 41s ago, saying: 'sorry... TT'. |
| 13:55.02 | sylvanaar | does anyone mind if i put my batch files in the trunk standalone libraries? |
| 13:57.39 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r22288 10DrDamage/ (5 files): |
| 13:57.39 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 13:57.39 | CIA-17 | - |
| 13:58.24 | Gagorian- | blah, me and my hasty fingers. |
| 14:00.24 | steev64 | hmm |
| 14:02.27 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r22289 10DrDamage/: |
| 14:02.27 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 14:02.27 | CIA-17 | -Changelog for last commit: Improved downranking (now it actually makes sense), added a few spells, added macroname support. Maybe now the lib will be included too. |
| 14:02.32 | kagaro | does anyone know how to get ahold of damjau? |
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| 14:03.45 | steev64 | who is "in charge" of LitheTooltipDoctor? |
| 14:03.46 | BankZ | heya uys |
| 14:03.50 | BankZ | *guys |
| 14:04.05 | BankZ | is there a good place to report a bug in oRA2? |
| 14:05.53 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22290 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (4 files): !!!StandaloneLibraries: Added batch files from my branch to the trunk. |
| 14:06.53 | jaete | gagorian, here now |
| 14:07.12 | jaete | gagorian, ["Arcane Impact"] = { Effect = 2, Spells = { "Arcane Explosion", "Arcane Impact" } <- that's a bug btw ;) |
| 14:08.00 | BankZ | When doing a version check or Durability check, the right scroll bar is missing |
| 14:08.27 | jaete | just noticed this yesterday: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?pid=268441#p268441 |
| 14:09.01 | jaete | basically the only way to figure out the real base damage of a spell is to read the tooltips... except you will then have to deduct the effects of some talents, but not all |
| 14:09.17 | jaete | example: fire power affects blizz default tooltips, but playing with fire doesn't |
| 14:09.30 | jaete | so it's gonna be one hell of a mess :p |
| 14:11.36 | sbu | hmm |
| 14:11.42 | sbu | drdmg doesnt work with trinity |
| 14:11.42 | sbu | ? |
| 14:11.56 | sbu | Gagorian-? :) |
| 14:14.46 | kagaro | anyone else notice CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_BUFF is not getting fired on Open events? thought they fix that bug |
| 14:15.03 | packetlss | is there an issue with summon dukes and stuff in silithus after 2.0? |
| 14:15.31 | kenlyric|work | packetlss: i've hear many stories that there are. |
| 14:16.11 | packetlss | i put on my set and still get blasted, and no summon :( |
| 14:19.22 | haarm | packetlss, relog with the set equipped |
| 14:19.43 | Gngsk | haarm, every time you want to summon? |
| 14:19.46 | packetlss | is that suppose to fix the problem? |
| 14:19.51 | haarm | Gngsk, no |
| 14:19.55 | haarm | packetlss, it does fix the problem |
| 14:20.00 | haarm | until the next time you log out |
| 14:20.04 | Gngsk | oh, just if you get gyped once |
| 14:20.28 | haarm | first time you log in wearing the set, you can summon as much as you like for that session, until the next time you log in wearing the set |
| 14:21.05 | BankZ | is there a good place to report a bug in oRA2? |
| 14:21.15 | haarm | BankZ, the forums? |
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| 14:21.43 | BankZ | ok, never posted there |
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| 14:22.18 | Gngsk | BankZ, or you can just idle here until ammo shows up |
| 14:22.26 | BankZ | ok |
| 14:22.32 | BankZ | next Q |
| 14:22.45 | haarm | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2099.0 |
| 14:22.58 | sbu | hmm - henge externals broken? |
| 14:22.59 | BankZ | Is there a mod that shows how much memory every mod is using? |
| 14:23.34 | haarm | BankZ, only at loading afaik, use warmup for that |
| 14:23.38 | Nickenyfiken | have Henge ever been not broken? |
| 14:23.46 | Gngsk | Nickenyfiken, heh |
| 14:24.07 | Gngsk | tekSupport can give you information about how much memory/time each mods OnUpdate and some other event is taking |
| 14:24.21 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 14:24.21 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 14:24.21 | Nickenyfiken | well i have never worked for me but it looks really awsome |
| 14:24.32 | BankZ | cool |
| 14:24.43 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 14:24.47 | Gngsk | Henge does look nice, but it seems to be really beta still |
| 14:24.48 | BankZ | im using 75 meg of memory |
| 14:24.49 | haarm | Gngsk, last time I used tekSupport it broke most of my other mods because it wasn't compatible totally with 2.0 hooking |
| 14:24.53 | BankZ | seems like a lot |
| 14:24.54 | Gngsk | BankZ, :o |
| 14:24.57 | Fisker- | RAWR? |
| 14:25.01 | packetlss | haarm: thx, that worked |
| 14:25.07 | haarm | no problem |
| 14:25.15 | Gngsk | haarm, check the changelog |
| 14:25.40 | haarm | Gngsk, i've been drunk for the last 4 days, i'm having trouble doing most things at the moment :D |
| 14:25.48 | Gngsk | hah |
| 14:25.53 | kenlyric|work | merry fucking christmas! |
| 14:25.59 | haarm | in-fucking deed |
| 14:26.02 | haarm | merry is the word |
| 14:26.04 | haarm | :) |
| 14:26.32 | kenlyric|work | man, that's just wrong. |
| 14:26.46 | kenlyric|work | I ran by somebody who just got a green winter hat from a kobold in the fargodeep mine. |
| 14:26.51 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r22291 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.lua: |
| 14:26.51 | CIA-17 | simpleMinimap: |
| 14:26.51 | CIA-17 | - Converted Format back to UTF-8 |
| 14:27.00 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-73-107.ewetel.net) |
| 14:27.09 | Gngsk | kenlyric|work, what're you doing playing wow at work? tsk tsk tsk |
| 14:27.27 | kenlyric|work | heh. I always play wow at work. What else am I going to do? |
| 14:27.32 | kenlyric|work | especially this week. |
| 14:27.57 | Wobin | rofl |
| 14:27.58 | Wobin | http://www.pvponline.com/article/3042/wed-dec-20 |
| 14:28.03 | Wobin | I'M A TREE |
| 14:28.48 | Ominous | what exactly is UTF-8? |
| 14:28.55 | nevcairiel | I'm a druid, i already are a tree. |
| 14:29.03 | kenlyric|work | less features than UTF-9, but software upgradeable. |
| 14:29.16 | kagaro | kergoth you there? |
| 14:29.34 | Daemona | Kaelten any place i can direct a bug report about kc_items/tooltips? |
| 14:29.48 | Ominous | what is UTF-9? |
| 14:29.59 | Daemona | !google utf-8 |
| 14:29.59 | kenlyric|work | a poorly executed joke, I guess. |
| 14:30.06 | kebinusan | heh, http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=119&Set=64 |
| 14:30.24 | Xogxog | April Fool's Day RFC joke specifications. |
| 14:30.53 | kebinusan | heh I love the april1 rfc's |
| 14:31.23 | kebinusan | The one on QoS over Avian Carrier was funny, gave new meaning to weighted round robin |
| 14:32.17 | Xogxog | G'damn it's cold! |
| 14:32.47 | Wobin | I know! |
| 14:32.52 | Wobin | It's like.... 15 degrees |
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| 14:33.04 | BankZ | I have an odd problem with Fubar |
| 14:33.16 | BankZ | my right side items, are left justified |
| 14:33.28 | BankZ | so they are right, but not all the way right |
| 14:34.11 | Xogxog | 36ฐF. :/ |
| 14:34.29 | Xogxog | But it's cold as crap in my house. |
| 14:35.21 | Wobin | oh I meant 35C |
| 14:35.25 | Wobin | er 15C |
| 14:35.32 | Wobin | but it's supposed to be around 35 =P |
| 14:36.31 | neenee | Hm. I find myself choosing Ace addons over other addons because updating is so easy. |
| 14:36.37 | Wobin | It's true |
| 14:36.45 | Wobin | WAU has revolutionised my addons |
| 14:37.04 | Xogxog | WAU needs some more features. ;P |
| 14:37.21 | Wobin | I dunno, I find it does the job |
| 14:37.46 | Xogxog | I'm missing the 'wipe user's butt' feature and the 'cuddle' feature would be nice. |
| 14:37.56 | nevcairiel | it can cuddle |
| 14:40.02 | kenlyric|work | a rollback feature would be nice, but you can always just use svn to have real control. |
| 14:40.08 | Health | Anyone know where you can find the level 70 honor gear? |
| 14:40.08 | neenee | Is there an Autobar or similar addon which supports Dreamlayout? |
| 14:40.18 | Kaelten | I hate sleep |
| 14:40.29 | nevcairiel | So dont? |
| 14:40.30 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:40.34 | Gamefaq | ^^ |
| 14:40.46 | Kaelten | lol, I've been trying that, I think sleep is about to catch up with me |
| 14:42.02 | Daemona | Health on www.thottbot.com/beta |
| 14:42.08 | Gamefaq | btw. keal is kc_items (ace2) usable or still beta? |
| 14:42.14 | Kaelten | I'm glad to see that things are starting to pick back up again after the slump we've had during the holidays |
| 14:42.28 | Xogxog | Slump? I didn't see no slump. |
| 14:42.30 | Health | Daemona: Yeah, I have no idea what to look for tho :) Maybe search for marks ;) |
| 14:42.42 | Daemona | or just for high ilvl epics? |
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| 14:43.10 | Daemona | resilience is an expensive stat ;) |
| 14:43.12 | BankZ | do u guys have anything like WIM? |
| 14:43.18 | Kaelten | WIM? |
| 14:43.19 | neenee | I use WIM |
| 14:43.30 | neenee | It put whispers in separate windows |
| 14:43.33 | BankZ | I love WIM but I lag when I get ALOT of tells |
| 14:43.35 | neenee | draggable and such |
| 14:44.11 | Daemona | wim roxx |
| 14:44.18 | Daemona | icq style whispers :) |
| 14:44.32 | Xogxog | Sounds evil. |
| 14:44.57 | Daemona | BankZ it lags cause it /who's everyone that whispers you so it can show class and guild in the window |
| 14:45.46 | Daemona | just dio /wim and uncheck the char info thingy on the right side |
| 14:46.19 | Daemona | and you could disable the history ;) |
| 14:46.45 | BankZ | hmm |
| 14:47.37 | Kaelten | hey is cartagrapher on c-g? |
| 14:47.43 | kebinusan | heh http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=117&Set=64 |
| 14:48.12 | Daemona | no idea kaelten, c-g is deadly slow since christmas |
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| 14:48.23 | sbu | Kaelten: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4947/cartographer/ |
| 14:48.38 | Wobin | I use HeyFu =P |
| 14:48.39 | sbu | but pretty old stuff there... |
| 14:48.45 | Wobin | for conversation management |
| 14:48.49 | BankZ | Anyone know the slash command for tekSupport? |
| 14:49.03 | Wobin | bankz you'll need Supply n Demand |
| 14:49.24 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r22292 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Touch the toc |
| 14:49.36 | Wobin | none of the fancy instant messenger type windows |
| 14:49.46 | Wobin | but it tracks all conversations and allows you to paste them anywhere |
| 14:49.50 | Daemona | i NEED fancy windows |
| 14:49.55 | Daemona | they are so ... fancy |
| 14:49.55 | kenlyric|work | i'm torn between heyfu and whisperfu |
| 14:49.56 | Wobin | (and HeyFu secretary is the best thing ever =P) |
| 14:50.14 | Wobin | heyfu does everything whisperfu does, I'm fairly sure |
| 14:50.27 | nevcairiel | add fancy windows and i buy it |
| 14:50.28 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:50.30 | Wobin | what does whisperfu do? |
| 14:50.33 | kenlyric|work | does it have any extra features? |
| 14:50.39 | kenlyric|work | tracks whispers. |
| 14:50.43 | Wobin | nevcairiel: write me a library to do it and I'll do it =P |
| 14:50.43 | Gngsk | nevcairiel, any chance of adding an option to hide macro text to BT3? |
| 14:51.03 | kenlyric|work | up to 20 messages from up to 20 people. |
| 14:51.13 | neenee | Daemona: you can disable those class/guild/etc info bits. |
| 14:51.15 | Wobin | kenlyric|work: it tracks all whispers, sorts them by time, allows you to review up to a month or so back |
| 14:51.32 | kenlyric|work | whisperfu doesn't let you delete individual people though. |
| 14:51.33 | nevcairiel | Gngsk: maybe later |
| 14:51.45 | neenee | I'd like a simple layout without much info, without the graphics, but I can't do without the windows themselves either. |
| 14:51.49 | Gngsk | nevcairiel, what if I implement it and send you a diff? :) |
| 14:51.55 | Wobin | kenlyric|work: it has an afk secretary that takes messages and lists them back to you when you either relog back in or go unafk |
| 14:52.04 | Daemona | neenee i know i just told BankZ ;) |
| 14:52.04 | kenlyric|work | hmmm. |
| 14:52.10 | kenlyric|work | I might have to switch |
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| 14:52.15 | Wobin | HeyFu can delete by day/week/user |
| 14:52.21 | BankZ | Supply n Demand? |
| 14:52.22 | kenlyric|work | ahhh, is there nothing so boring as scanning the AH? |
| 14:52.34 | Wobin | kenlyric|work: Bottomfeeding =P |
| 14:52.53 | Wobin | BankZ: It's Tek's load on demand stub |
| 14:53.04 | Gngsk | S&D rocks |
| 14:53.14 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:53.17 | Daemona | i demand more supply :) |
| 14:53.45 | Wobin | www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_HeyFu |
| 14:54.15 | Amadeo | We require more vespene gas |
| 14:54.15 | kenlyric|work | can I autorespond to anything that has the word "maraudon" in it? |
| 14:54.38 | nevcairiel | Gngsk: sure |
| 14:54.38 | Ominous | hmm ora + bigwigs add about a second each to my loading time o i thought i would add the SupplyandDemand stumb text to the tocs of earch, it works on bigwigs but the same text dosent work on oRA any suggestions? |
| 14:54.49 | Wobin | kenlyric|work: not so far |
| 14:54.59 | Wobin | I'm planning on adding autoresponders by location |
| 14:55.05 | Wobin | so if you're in a BG, you can set a message |
| 14:55.14 | Wobin | and store whispers for later retrieval |
| 14:55.15 | BankZ | I am having an odd problem with fuBar, my right side items, are left justified. So they are on the right... but not all the way right |
| 14:55.19 | BankZ | ideas? |
| 14:55.53 | Ominous | BankZ go the the very edge of the FuBar plugin and an "sword" symbol will appear, drag it to the very right |
| 14:55.53 | kenlyric|work | I don't understand how that can be. |
| 14:56.07 | kenlyric|work | is there something they are justified to? |
| 14:56.29 | Wobin | can you give a screenshot, Bankz? |
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| 14:56.56 | kebinusan | bad morning when you read "Quake in Taiwan Cripples Internet" on slashdot and start to ponder how a 10 year old video game could cripple the internet of a country |
| 14:56.56 | kenlyric|work | I do think kc_items AH scan is a heck of a lot faster than auctioneer. |
| 14:57.10 | BankZ | wob, sure |
| 14:57.26 | Wobin | why's that, I wonder |
| 14:57.27 | Kaelten | kenlyric|work: you're just trying to flatter me so I'll do something aren't you? |
| 14:57.35 | Wobin | is KC not storing as much info? |
| 14:58.03 | Kaelten | Wobin: heh, not nearly, the new one I'm working on stores even less overall |
| 14:58.04 | kenlyric|work | uh, yeah, tell me when the current market on an item is too low so I know to wait to sell :) |
| 14:58.12 | Ominous | is kc_items ever going to be ace2? |
| 14:58.23 | Wobin | Kael's working on that right now |
| 14:58.32 | Ominous | ah :) |
| 14:58.50 | Wobin | Kaelten: good =P I don't really need all the fancy auctioneer data |
| 14:58.52 | Ominous | kc items is aucioneer and lootlink isnt it? |
| 14:58.59 | Kaelten | kenlyric|work: the new one is going to have a data on the last scanned avgs and the historic avg seperately |
| 14:59.06 | kenlyric|work | it appears to not have all the features of auctioneer that I never used, which I'm a fan of. |
| 14:59.22 | Kaelten | ominous and sell values |
| 14:59.23 | Fisker- | y helo thar? |
| 15:00.05 | Wobin | oh and kenlyric|work, if you try HeyFu, make sure you get Teknicolor as well |
| 15:00.21 | kenlyric|work | I don't want a mod just to color another mod. |
| 15:00.31 | Wobin | cause it makes it so much prettier =P and the colours help in recognising names at a glance |
| 15:00.38 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=102400666&pageNo=1&sid=1#7 |
| 15:00.39 | Fisker- | "hoho" |
| 15:00.42 | Wobin | Oh teknicolor will do the chatframe too |
| 15:00.47 | Fisker- | now unban my account you silly goblin! |
| 15:00.50 | kenlyric|work | yeah, but I get colors through prat. |
| 15:00.58 | Wobin | hm |
| 15:01.02 | Wobin | I wonder how prat stores it |
| 15:01.10 | Wobin | maybe I can hook into that as well |
| 15:01.24 | Gngsk | Wobin, if you updated HeyFu for prat support, you should add it to ImprovedRWF as well :P |
| 15:01.29 | kenlyric|work | there's two lists, one with level and one with class. |
| 15:01.37 | Wobin | improved wha? |
| 15:01.41 | kenlyric|work | in the prat SV |
| 15:02.17 | Gngsk | ImprovedRWF, it's a Raid Warning Frame mod which also hooks Teknicolor to add class color to the raid warning messages |
| 15:02.20 | Xogxog | Hmm.. |
| 15:02.52 | kenlyric|work | prat stores the level/class of someone anytime you do a /who on them. |
| 15:02.54 | BankZ | Wob: U still want that screenshot? |
| 15:03.01 | Wobin | Gngsk: but how to link it to heyfu? |
| 15:03.03 | kenlyric|work | so combined with census+, I have quite a lot of data stored. |
| 15:03.05 | Wobin | BankZ: sure |
| 15:03.25 | BankZ | I tried to send, you didnt accept |
| 15:03.32 | Xogxog | Meh, Macros.. What exactly do they mean with "# show <spell>- Shows macro feedback for the listed spell" Feedback? Like what? |
| 15:03.34 | Gngsk | Wobin, nah I just meant if you're investigating the difference between the way Teknicolor and Prat save that info |
| 15:03.36 | Wobin | kenlyric|work: Oh I only borrow the colours from teknicolor, I don't recopy them =P |
| 15:03.43 | Wobin | ah |
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| 15:04.09 | Gngsk | I use prat too, but I only keep Teknicolor around because ImproveRWF hooks it |
| 15:04.10 | Wobin | well, actually that's a lie, I probably do |
| 15:04.20 | Znortfl | Hello WowAce members, I have an Aced addon I have created but I cant find info anywhere about putting it on your website. Could anybody get me up to speed? |
| 15:04.32 | CIA-17 | 03laotseu * r22293 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua: |
| 15:04.32 | CIA-17 | AllPlayed: |
| 15:04.32 | CIA-17 | - Metrognome updates now happen even if FuBar is not there (Doh!) |
| 15:04.32 | CIA-17 | - Force an immediate refresh when options are changed |
| 15:04.33 | Wobin | BankZ: You'll probably need to be registered to send |
| 15:04.47 | Wobin | Put it up on imageshack or something? |
| 15:04.50 | Gngsk | Znortfl, check the wiki for svn rules |
| 15:05.08 | Wobin | Znortfl: You'll be best starting off by getting onto the SVN |
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| 15:05.28 | Znortfl | Wobin, problem is though, I am on a linux box (running WoW too). Is there an SVN client for linux? |
| 15:05.40 | Wobin | Subversion perhaps? |
| 15:05.53 | Znortfl | thank you |
| 15:06.20 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:07.40 | deltron | heh |
| 15:07.42 | Fisker- | heh |
| 15:07.51 | deltron | sudo apt-cache search svn |
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| 15:08.51 | jaete | don't need sudo for apt-cache search ;p |
| 15:09.13 | deltron | oh yeah |
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| 15:09.23 | deltron | i never use sudo except sudo -s :P |
| 15:09.44 | Kaelten-Laptop | btw, whoever mentioned synergy2 to me, THANKS! |
| 15:09.47 | Kaelten-Laptop | its awesome :) |
| 15:10.08 | Wobin | what is it? |
| 15:10.13 | Health | Never tested it, but saw a video on it :D |
| 15:10.21 | deltron | shares mouse and keyboard between multiple machines |
| 15:10.23 | deltron | with no kvm |
| 15:10.46 | *** join/#wowace neenee (n=naenee@a62-251-64-42.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:10.57 | Kaelten | synergy2.sourceforge.net |
| 15:11.03 | nevcairiel | it really looks great |
| 15:11.14 | Kaelten | I set it out, its quick and easy and works |
| 15:11.20 | Kaelten | set it up* rather |
| 15:11.29 | nevcairiel | i guess where the mouse is, my keyboard input goes ? |
| 15:11.45 | Kaelten | yep |
| 15:11.50 | Gngsk | wow |
| 15:11.53 | Gngsk | I'm gonna have to set that up |
| 15:12.07 | Kaelten | and it also syncs the clipboards which is one of the nicest things if you ask me |
| 15:12.10 | kebinusan | Kaelten, thats pretty neat |
| 15:12.31 | Kaelten | ya if I was better at installing stuff on linux I'd have all 3 of my computers on it |
| 15:12.39 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 15:13.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten-Laptop] by ChanServ |
| 15:15.26 | Wobin | night all |
| 15:15.53 | Makk | hello :) |
| 15:16.10 | Makk | how do I detect if I have a pet summoned? |
| 15:16.12 | nevcairiel | night wob |
| 15:16.26 | nevcairiel | Look for some little guy running around your feet |
| 15:16.31 | deltron | hit f1 twice and it should target it? |
| 15:17.12 | yacoob | nevcairiel, no way, they added pet gnomes!?? :D |
| 15:17.14 | deltron | programatically, I have no clue |
| 15:17.20 | kebinusan | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Pet_Functions |
| 15:17.50 | Kaelten | other awesome little thing I love is google's browser sync |
| 15:18.42 | deltron | what's that? |
| 15:18.55 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22294 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (14 files in 10 dirs): !!!StandaloneLibraries: Brought current with trunk version |
| 15:19.03 | Teomyr | UnitExists("pet") ? |
| 15:19.23 | Xogxog | Hmm.. I could've sworn there was a FuBar plugin for keeping track of the hunter 'track' skills. |
| 15:19.35 | kebinusan | Teomyr, yes |
| 15:20.25 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22295 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (createdirs.sav makefilelist.bat): !!!StandaloneLibraries: Some batch file changes. Added createdirs.bat which can recreate the empty dirs |
| 15:20.36 | neenee | Is there some addon which works like autobar, but with no buttons and keybinds instead for each category? |
| 15:20.48 | neenee | or one button for best food, one for best drink? |
| 15:20.55 | yacoob | er... hide the bar, assign the keybindings? :D |
| 15:21.01 | yacoob | (or am I wrong somewhere?) |
| 15:21.05 | neenee | hm |
| 15:21.27 | neenee | I'd rather have an addon which doesn't have all the gui stuff in it, something more basic |
| 15:21.38 | yacoob | there was smartbuff or something like that, but it was so horribly written... |
| 15:21.43 | neenee | hm |
| 15:21.43 | Makk | kebinusan, Teomyr: thanks |
| 15:21.46 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-49-170-6.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:21.51 | yacoob | like, it was cluttering the global namespace |
| 15:21.57 | neenee | smartbuff is for buffs, not for potions/drinks/food |
| 15:22.23 | yacoob | neenee, perhaps it was called otherwise, it was surely for the latter |
| 15:22.35 | snurre- | http://ace.pastey.net/4048 |
| 15:22.37 | yacoob | lemme look |
| 15:23.19 | Neriak | what do people mean by 'exact name search' in AH? does that mean that when I enter 'essence' I don't get any hits instead of all sorts of essences? |
| 15:23.45 | yacoob | neenee, http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2863 |
| 15:23.50 | yacoob | and basically, it worked |
| 15:23.56 | sylvanaar | Gngsk: fyi, if you are intergrating tightly with prat you should know that some of the internal code is getting refactored, which will most likely break the interface you have with prat |
| 15:24.19 | yacoob | but lemme give you an example: there was a bug, this addon's function was colliding with some other addon variable |
| 15:24.27 | yacoob | (that's what you get if you use global namespace) |
| 15:24.35 | yacoob | simple thing, find name, replace |
| 15:24.41 | yacoob | I poked author about that |
| 15:24.48 | DrZoot | is there some way to stop the svn server from creating packages of my mod? its on wowace.com/files and I dont really want it to be since its really not useable/ready atm |
| 15:24.55 | neenee | yacoob: okidoki |
| 15:24.57 | yacoob | He nodded, did some search&replace, released a new version... |
| 15:25.07 | Kaelten | Neriak: he means you search for Linen Cloth it won't bring of "bolt of linen cloth" |
| 15:25.20 | yacoob | ...that didn't work AT ALL because there was an INTERNAL conflict now - newly renamed function collided with his own variable :D |
| 15:25.22 | Kaelten | which is a pet peave of mine |
| 15:25.22 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r22296 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Changed icons default size to 13 px. |
| 15:25.28 | Ordog | is there an ace2 itemlink generator around? |
| 15:27.18 | Kaelten | Whats a SAS hard drive? |
| 15:27.33 | DrZoot | serial attached scsi |
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| 15:28.00 | Nimbal | Is someone here who knows SpecialEvents-Aura inside-out? It seems like it sometimes does fire events on a ReloadUI(), sometimes it doesn't. Strange. |
| 15:28.22 | sylvanaar | DrZoot: you can code in a branch |
| 15:28.41 | Kaelten | DrZoot: better than regular Sata? |
| 15:28.50 | CIA-17 | 03laotseu * r22297 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua: |
| 15:28.51 | CIA-17 | AllPlayed: |
| 15:28.51 | CIA-17 | - XP total per character now fully implemented |
| 15:29.00 | Kaelten | alos which is better in general Raid 0 or Raid 1? |
| 15:29.02 | DrZoot | sylvanaar, so just move it off into a branch and then move it into trunk when its ready for the limelight? |
| 15:29.29 | Azurewrath | Kaelten: err.. you can't really compare Raid0 and Raid1 |
| 15:29.30 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: that totally depends if you want speed or data backup. |
| 15:29.45 | Kaelten | ah |
| 15:29.48 | Nickenyfiken | Kaelten: raid1 is mirroring |
| 15:29.54 | Kaelten | I'm looking at a new server for wowace |
| 15:29.55 | nevcairiel | 0 is speed, 1 is mirroring |
| 15:30.02 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: is 13 px larger or smaller |
| 15:30.06 | sylvanaar | yeah, remember to use the branch command to create the branch, and then merge with the trunk when you are done. dont import another copy |
| 15:30.08 | nevcairiel | For a server, i would go with 1 :D |
| 15:30.12 | kenlyric|work | um... isn't 0 size, and 1 safety (mirroring)? |
| 15:30.14 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: smaller |
| 15:30.16 | Azurewrath | and Raid0 is Stripeset.. so if one hdd crashes, all data is gone.. but it's like 100% faster (in theory) |
| 15:30.21 | Navv | 0 is striped |
| 15:30.28 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: liek, boring, now they can't be seen? |
| 15:30.28 | DrZoot | Kaelten, afaik most of the SAS drives are scsi internals on a sata physical connect, i think the drives themselves are better quality than normal sata drives as sas is usually used for server stuff |
| 15:30.39 | kenlyric|work | screw that, go with raid 5 :) |
| 15:30.44 | nevcairiel | 5 is good |
| 15:30.45 | sylvanaar | 0 i have decided isnt worth it |
| 15:30.51 | nevcairiel | but you need lots of drives :) |
| 15:30.52 | Kaelten | what is raid 5 and 10? |
| 15:30.58 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: well mining/herb is using 12... you can still change the icon size in carto options |
| 15:31.04 | DrZoot | Kaelten, im not sure that sas and sata are compatible though, could be wrong though |
| 15:31.04 | nevcairiel | 10 is a combination of 1 and 0 |
| 15:31.10 | Azurewrath | 10 is 1+0, so you need 4 drives minimum |
| 15:31.12 | Nickenyfiken | RAID 10: A stripe of mirrors may be good yes |
| 15:31.14 | Navv | 5 is parity stuff |
| 15:31.24 | nevcairiel | 5 is good |
| 15:31.24 | sylvanaar | raid5 is parity raid, and raid 10 is striped raid 1's |
| 15:31.35 | nevcairiel | parity is fast and you have safety |
| 15:31.44 | Navv | yeah, reasonable safety |
| 15:31.44 | kenlyric|work | raid 6 is also good, since you get two 2 parity drives. |
| 15:31.52 | sylvanaar | overhead is high for 5 |
| 15:31.55 | kenlyric|work | or did I make up raid six? |
| 15:32.01 | nevcairiel | i havent heard of 6 |
| 15:32.17 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: yeah but the icons are simple with mining/herb |
| 15:32.20 | kenlyric|work | anywhere, there's a parity solution with a failsafe for the parity info. |
| 15:32.22 | sylvanaar | what is that mirrored parity |
| 15:32.29 | Kaelten | well raid 5 requires 3 drives and raid 10 requires 4 drives |
| 15:32.52 | nevcairiel | I run a raid5 with 4 drives, and havent had a single issue yet |
| 15:32.57 | kenlyric|work | "Double protection schemes such as RAID 6 are attempting to address this issue, but suffer from a very high write penalty." |
| 15:33.13 | nevcairiel | If you only have two drives, you should go with Raid1 |
| 15:33.18 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: would raid5 prevent us from having the data corruption issue we had a mont or so ago? |
| 15:33.46 | Azurewrath | errr... dumb question btw.. anyone from UK around who is willing to upload an ISO of the enGB TBC Client on release Date? (I'd provide a FTP.).. i could just buy the deDE Version for the Key that way and would'nt have to wait for the shipment.. and save ~10 ;) |
| 15:33.50 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: i am not sure what happend there, but raids only protect against hardware failure |
| 15:34.05 | sylvanaar | there is raid 15 too no |
| 15:34.09 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: we had some sort of data corruption. |
| 15:34.36 | DrZoot | is there an event fired when you use a consumable? im more interested in potions/healthstones etc |
| 15:34.39 | nevcairiel | If some software issue corrupts the data, i dont think any form of Raid can protect you |
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| 15:34.52 | kenlyric|work | raid 5 is good when you want a nice balance of performance and safety and cost. Raid 10 is good when you can afford to pay twice as much per GB of storage. Raid 1 is good when you only have two hard drives. Raid 0 is good for nothing :) |
| 15:34.53 | nevcairiel | If its a hardware issue, raids can help |
| 15:34.58 | Mikma | AKX: code DreamChat |
| 15:35.13 | Azurewrath | same for bad memory.. if the data get's corrupted before it is written to the hdd, no drive can help... |
| 15:35.16 | AKX | Oh eff you Mikma, I've spent the Christmas without an Internet connection |
| 15:35.20 | yacoob | Mikma, you forgot 'comply!' :) |
| 15:35.20 | Azurewrath | but in general raid5 is very reliable |
| 15:35.21 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 15:35.39 | sylvanaar | Im happy with raid1 |
| 15:35.57 | nevcairiel | raid1 if you have two disks, raid5 if you have more |
| 15:35.59 | Neriak | Kaelten: do you have a code for exact name search around? |
| 15:36.00 | Kaelten | raid 5 is a reasonable option although it looks like I'd be wanting to go with sata drives if where to use that, although the sas drives are faster spin speeds |
| 15:36.07 | Kaelten | Neriak: nope |
| 15:36.12 | sylvanaar | after losing one of my raid0 drives 2-3 times, i learned my lesson |
| 15:36.13 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: hmm well maybe, help me bug ckk to add option to scale icons for each DB individually :-) |
| 15:36.28 | Neriak | hrm so I have to study Blizzy code again .. bah |
| 15:36.38 | Kaelten | Neriak: you'd basically want to filter the results returned from the get auciton info |
| 15:36.46 | kenlyric|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks |
| 15:36.50 | Azurewrath | Kaelten: if you mean 15k, yes. There are 10k SATA drives however.. i run one of these babies :) |
| 15:37.05 | sylvanaar | l o u d |
| 15:37.19 | Fisker- | Someone should know Aeus' email :( |
| 15:37.33 | Kaelten | Azurewrath: well its either a 7.2k stata or a 10k sas |
| 15:37.44 | nevcairiel | from that definition, redundant .... Raid0 doesnt really fit, or ? :D |
| 15:37.46 | Neriak | Kaelten: I have that already in for a click function .. have to test things. Oh and I answered you in the thread .. name sorting is in |
| 15:38.07 | Nickenyfiken | get 4 10k rpm SATA raptors |
| 15:38.23 | Azurewrath | Kaelten: so 10k sata would be cheaper i guess.. take a look at that link http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=189&Language=en |
| 15:38.29 | Gngsk | nevcairiel, done. now the hard part, making the diff =\ |
| 15:38.29 | kenlyric|work | Ooh, I missed something, which mod does AH name sorting? |
| 15:38.31 | sylvanaar | i have 4 raptors, which are happily off |
| 15:38.34 | Xogxog | What're the good HUD's out there? |
| 15:38.46 | Azurewrath | have only one raptor, but i love it :) |
| 15:39.04 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten 07Ace2 * r22298 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (AuctionSpy/AuctionSpy.lua Fence/Core.lua KC_Items.toc): KC_Items (Ace 2) - some fixes/tweaks |
| 15:39.10 | Laric | run 4 raptors in raid 10 :P |
| 15:39.15 | neenee | kenlyric|work: fence |
| 15:39.22 | Xogxog | I got one Raptor.. and one WD that's failing. ;P |
| 15:39.25 | sylvanaar | only in another room |
| 15:39.43 | snurre- | meh, something is causing me alot of "fatality"'s now :( |
| 15:40.55 | nevcairiel | Gngsk: if you use TortoiseSVN, just use the create patch command :D |
| 15:41.36 | Gngsk | well, I've not used TortoiseSVN in a while, but I guess this is using it for |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r22299 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc ReadMe.txt SpellData.lua): |
| 15:41.46 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 15:41.46 | CIA-17 | -Added tooltips to macrobuttons. Coefficient adjustments. |
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| 15:42.15 | Xogxog | So, HUDs, name some good ones! |
| 15:42.22 | nevcairiel | IceHUD |
| 15:42.29 | neenee | ag_unitframes |
| 15:42.37 | nevcairiel | aguf is no HUD :D |
| 15:43.06 | neenee | well nor is IceHUD I think |
| 15:43.14 | neenee | Isn't that just a diferent unit frame? |
| 15:43.17 | sylvanaar | >< !!! >< |
| 15:43.25 | DrZoot | lol |
| 15:43.35 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2404.800;topicseen |
| 15:43.46 | neenee | well when I see it in screenshots it just looks like those vertical round bars to me |
| 15:43.59 | neenee | but let me look |
| 15:44.00 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r22300 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast.lua Click2CastMenu.lua): |
| 15:44.00 | CIA-17 | Click2Cast: |
| 15:44.00 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:44.25 | Xogxog | nice, sylvanaar. ;P |
| 15:44.26 | Makk | which event should I bind UnitExists("pet") to? =/ |
| 15:44.47 | nevcairiel | depends what you want to do :D |
| 15:44.58 | Makk | update a frame |
| 15:45.04 | Makk | show it when my pet is summoned |
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| 15:45.08 | sylvanaar | ? no, i mean i made that copychat thing, and now ppl want me to make the chat window look like it |
| 15:45.09 | Makk | or exists |
| 15:45.21 | neenee | well, icehud is a little bit more, but not a complete hud with buttons and such |
| 15:45.22 | Makk | and hide it when it's dismissed or not sumoned |
| 15:46.09 | neenee | I wish there was a way to show current mana in ag_unitframes for druids even when shapeshifted |
| 15:46.12 | Gagorian- | "PLAYER_PET_CHANGED"? |
| 15:46.36 | Makk | will that event fire when the game loads? |
| 15:46.44 | Makk | just by having my pet summoned? |
| 15:46.46 | kenlyric|work | heck, I wish there was a way to show that in the default ui. |
| 15:46.47 | Gagorian- | Doubt it |
| 15:47.00 | Makk | ah, I can just do it in the OnEnable anyway |
| 15:47.01 | Gagorian- | Use "PLAYER_ALIVE" for entering world |
| 15:47.02 | Makk | right? |
| 15:47.21 | nevcairiel | sure, OnEnable works as well |
| 15:47.56 | Gagorian- | Every information might not exist on onenable if I recall correctly |
| 15:48.01 | Gagorian- | talents at least aren't there ye |
| 15:48.03 | Gagorian- | *yet |
| 15:48.12 | Gagorian- | Or then I'm just talking bullshit |
| 15:48.18 | Gagorian- | :P |
| 15:48.28 | snurre- | goddamnit, turning off sound.. aguf or something is spamming me with fatalities |
| 15:48.37 | Gagorian- | That's bugsack |
| 15:48.42 | Gagorian- | right click and disable sound |
| 15:48.57 | snurre- | well, whatever.. errors are errors, and theyre always annoying |
| 15:49.27 | CIA-17 | 03drzoot * r22301 10Axon/ (Axon.lua AxonProvider.lua): Axon: Bars and Providers now use a similar creation system |
| 15:49.45 | Nickenyfiken | oh whats Axon? |
| 15:50.14 | DrZoot | at the moment .... not much, eventually it will be a modular hud with target bars and cooldown bars |
| 15:50.25 | Nickenyfiken | ah ok |
| 15:50.31 | Nickenyfiken | anyone played Metroid Prime? |
| 15:51.29 | Caersleep | does ElkBuffBars have more than one texture for the bars? |
| 15:52.18 | Nickenyfiken | Caersleep: i think so |
| 15:53.17 | Xogxog | Caersleep, negative |
| 15:53.36 | Caersleep | Darn :) |
| 15:53.39 | Xogxog | But you can change it.. sort of. ;P Just replace the BarTexture.tga in its dir with whatever you want. ;P |
| 15:53.50 | Caersleep | ooh. |
| 15:53.58 | CIA-17 | 03laotseu * r22302 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua AllPlayed.toc): |
| 15:53.58 | CIA-17 | AllPlayed: |
| 15:53.58 | CIA-17 | - Added the $Id$ subversion tag to all files in order to better follow my changes |
| 15:54.37 | snurre- | allplayed, such an evil addon |
| 15:54.49 | nevcairiel | just makes you feel bad |
| 15:54.59 | Nickenyfiken | lol yeah |
| 15:55.06 | kenlyric|work | not me. |
| 15:55.18 | kenlyric|work | when it used to say 170 days, yeah, but now it says 12. |
| 15:55.36 | nevcairiel | i dont even know what it would say on my main |
| 15:56.12 | kenlyric|work | i actually don't care about the /played info. I use it for the rest tracking :) |
| 15:56.25 | Nickenyfiken | yeah the rest tracking is neat |
| 15:56.43 | snurre- | i care about /played on my new char, since i was racing my old best time to 60 :p |
| 15:56.47 | kenlyric|work | I used to use it for gold tracking, before I switched to fubar. |
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| 15:59.46 | Nickenyfiken | AuditorFu is nice for tracking money |
| 15:59.52 | kenlyric|work | but it's gone. |
| 16:00.00 | Nickenyfiken | gone? |
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| 16:00.07 | kenlyric|work | well, gone for me :) |
| 16:00.13 | Nickenyfiken | it still in my addon folder :-P |
| 16:00.14 | kenlyric|work | no longer on wowace.com/files |
| 16:00.37 | Nickenyfiken | so just because its not there it automaticly get deleted from your addons foldeR? |
| 16:00.39 | kenlyric|work | i like auditorfu better, but moneyfu does the job. |
| 16:00.46 | nevcairiel | Gngsk: so how is the diff coming ? :P |
| 16:01.00 | kenlyric|work | no, but I'm not going to run an addon that doesn't get updated. That's not the lazy way. |
| 16:01.21 | kenlyric|work | (unless I have no other choice, of course) |
| 16:02.56 | Nickenyfiken | well it has no issues so i will run it until it stop working |
| 16:03.01 | Nickenyfiken | and i has all the features i want |
| 16:03.32 | ag` | Hi everyone |
| 16:03.40 | Nickenyfiken | hi ag` |
| 16:04.23 | Nickenyfiken | ag`: will agUF party pets work in the next wow patch or in TBC? |
| 16:05.27 | ag` | it depends on what blizzard does |
| 16:05.40 | ag` | I think maybe it's possible in the next patch |
| 16:05.54 | Nickenyfiken | ok so its not possible at all right now? |
| 16:06.07 | nevcairiel | Have you had a look at the changes on the Beta? |
| 16:06.20 | ag` | nevcairiel: no, what changes are there? |
| 16:06.21 | Amadeo | I've seen party pets work in other unit frame addons |
| 16:06.49 | ag` | yes, because they do not place them in a layout |
| 16:06.55 | ag` | you can move them all over the place |
| 16:07.25 | kenlyric|work | hmmm. |
| 16:07.35 | kenlyric|work | and that's bad? |
| 16:07.43 | ag` | if you type /aguf pettest you can do the same |
| 16:07.45 | ag` | yes, it is |
| 16:07.52 | ag` | it's not the way the party members act |
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| 16:08.10 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure how the pets work with the Secure Templates on 2.0.3 now |
| 16:08.14 | nevcairiel | but some stuff changed |
| 16:08.28 | ag` | I heard that they didn't add support for pets |
| 16:08.29 | nevcairiel | and wdn.wowi is out of date -.- |
| 16:08.30 | kenlyric|work | my friend can't use aguf because his layout requires a 2x2 party frame, the party frame can't be moved around individually. |
| 16:08.47 | kenlyric|work | so, it's more overhead to move the party frames individually? or does it break something? |
| 16:08.48 | ag` | 2x2 will be possible in 2.0.3 |
| 16:09.00 | Saroz | why not now |
| 16:09.11 | ag` | because the party header doesn't support it |
| 16:09.17 | ag` | until 2.0.3 |
| 16:09.19 | nevcairiel | because the header code positions the buttons |
| 16:10.04 | Saroz | k |
| 16:10.20 | Amadeo | so if Blizzard doesn't put the function in, will pettest still work at least in 2.0.3? |
| 16:11.00 | ag` | the /aguf pettest command will always work until I get pets working as they're supposed to |
| 16:11.19 | ag` | but the pet frames created by that command will not hide automatically in raids |
| 16:11.37 | Amadeo | I see |
| 16:11.44 | Xogxog | --button:SetBackdropColor(0.3, 0.5, 1, 0.5) |
| 16:11.44 | Xogxog | --bar:SetStatusBarColor(0, 0.5, 1, 0.8) |
| 16:11.47 | Xogxog | Woops. |
| 16:11.50 | kenlyric|work | so what makes the agUF implementation different from blizzard's and other UF mods. |
| 16:12.13 | ag` | aguf pets takes up space in the group flow |
| 16:12.31 | kenlyric|work | oh, I guess I meant "why" :) |
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| 16:12.38 | Xogxog | ag`, I thought I saw a video snippet of agUF with that 'flash-remove' health bar stuff a while ago. What's 'ze deal with that? |
| 16:12.50 | ag` | flash remove? |
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| 16:13.22 | Xogxog | Yeah, say you have 100hp, take a hit for 40hp and that 40hp chunk on the bar flashes (usually red or whatever) right before it fades away. |
| 16:13.43 | Gngsk | Xogxog, aguf_barfader |
| 16:13.58 | Xogxog | zomg |
| 16:14.01 | Xogxog | Now you tell me. |
| 16:14.16 | kenlyric|work | well, now you asked about it. |
| 16:14.16 | Gngsk | you only just asked |
| 16:14.22 | ag` | kenlyric|work: why? Hrm, dunno. Because it makes sense to me that pets doesn't stick out to the left or to the right, it takes up space |
| 16:14.25 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 16:14.26 | kenlyric|work | I can't yet type in the past. |
| 16:14.37 | Xogxog | That's your imperpefction, kenlyric|work. |
| 16:14.47 | Xogxog | -p |
| 16:15.01 | Xogxog | *zaps typos* |
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| 16:15.28 | kenlyric|work | ag`: yeah, I guess personally I'd want a "pet frame" that had all the pets, but attaching to the character just like you do the buffs seems reasonable enough. |
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| 16:16.18 | kebinusan | so where does one find aguf_barfader |
| 16:16.26 | Xogxog | wowace.com/files |
| 16:16.31 | Gngsk | filez |
| 16:16.36 | ag` | a frame for just the pets won't be possible |
| 16:17.19 | Kaelten_ | thats annoying |
| 16:17.21 | kenlyric|work | yeah, I know. A healer can dream. |
| 16:17.25 | kebinusan | ah, auf |
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| 16:17.45 | kenlyric|work | but, other UF allow you to move each individual frame, so I can make my own pet frame if I want. |
| 16:17.48 | Kaelten | thats better |
| 16:18.01 | Xogxog | Anyone know off-hand if the Blizzard Enemy Castbar tracks Aimed Shots? |
| 16:18.11 | Kaelten | is $149 a month a good price for 2 Mbps-Unmetered connection? |
| 16:18.12 | ag` | that's what aguf currently does with /aguf pettest |
| 16:18.24 | ag` | it creates pet frames you can move around |
| 16:18.33 | Mikma | ag`: what has happened to the rounded-statusbars in aguf? (steel) ? |
| 16:18.35 | ag` | but they do not hide when you enter a raid and your party hides for example |
| 16:18.52 | ag` | Mikma: hrm? I can use it without problems |
| 16:18.56 | Hjalte | Mikma: I'm still using steel..? |
| 16:19.26 | Mikma | ag`: well when is select steel it's just... normal |
| 16:20.35 | ag` | delete all addons, delete WTF and only use aguf, then try again |
| 16:20.47 | Gngsk | ~emulte ag` |
| 16:20.56 | Gngsk | spelling ftw! |
| 16:21.00 | Mikma | ag`: well i use surfaces :P |
| 16:21.17 | ag` | maybe surfaces is bugged? |
| 16:21.20 | ag` | try disabling it |
| 16:21.33 | Mikma | well i'm looking at the texture, it's rounded and still it's not ok in game :P |
| 16:22.02 | Xogxog | Mikma, check any other mod that has Steel.tga. ;P |
| 16:22.38 | Mikma | right |
| 16:22.41 | Mikma | that must be it |
| 16:22.46 | Mikma | plain aguf Steel = ok |
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| 16:23.10 | Xogxog | What about NotSteel? |
| 16:23.52 | neenee | aguf_barfader exists? |
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| 16:24.00 | Xogxog | neenee, yeah. |
| 16:24.01 | neenee | ah |
| 16:24.05 | neenee | wowace.com/files. oki |
| 16:24.05 | Caersleep | it exists! |
| 16:24.08 | Xogxog | Miles|zzz rocketh. |
| 16:24.20 | Mikma | gmm |
| 16:24.20 | kebinusan | its auf_barfader |
| 16:24.32 | Mikma | hmmm*, does barfader affect the texture? |
| 16:24.59 | kebinusan | dunno havent loaded wow yet |
| 16:25.15 | neenee | trying it out now too |
| 16:25.18 | Mikma | well |
| 16:25.25 | Mikma | i use barfader and aguf = steel is rounded |
| 16:25.35 | Mikma | when i enable Surfaces the textures gets borked |
| 16:26.17 | Mikma | bad, bad surfaces |
| 16:26.19 | ag` | Surfaces might be borked then |
| 16:26.45 | Mikma | the texture in surfaces is ok.. |
| 16:26.45 | Mikma | but i'm now having a feeling it loads a wrong texture |
| 16:26.56 | Mikma | i know! this is "revenge of the otravi" |
| 16:27.41 | ag` | surface lib shares textures ok |
| 16:29.35 | neenee | cool |
| 16:29.42 | neenee | aguf_barfader is nice :) |
| 16:30.33 | Mikma | yes it is :) |
| 16:31.02 | Gngsk | who decided to make those mods named aUF_addon instead of agUF_addon? |
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| 16:31.39 | CIA-17 | Surfaces: |
| 16:31.39 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.50 | kebinusan | arkinventory has wonky externals |
| 16:35.06 | kebinusan | Fetching external item into 'ArkInventory/Libs\Gratuity' wrong slash |
| 16:35.35 | neenee | Is there an addon which can filter drunk and duelling messages? |
| 16:35.49 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r22304 10Bartender3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: added an option to hide the Macro Text ( thanks to Gngsk ) |
| 16:36.53 | Fisker- | gonna be godly with #showtooltip |
| 16:37.01 | Fisker- | ~hug nevcairiel |
| 16:37.03 | purl | ACTION hugs nevcairiel |
| 16:39.01 | neenee | Hm. devnull duel message filter seems to be broken. |
| 16:39.48 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r22305 10Surfaces/ (Images/Steel.tga Surfaces.lua): |
| 16:39.48 | CIA-17 | Surfaces: |
| 16:39.48 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.55 | ag` | fixed now Mikma |
| 16:40.21 | kebinusan | is Steel the new sexy or somethin? |
| 16:40.55 | ag` | dunno if it is "new" but many people likes to use it |
| 16:41.16 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=102430809&sid=1 <-people just keeps on failing |
| 16:41.35 | neenee | I prefer striped |
| 16:41.36 | Fisker- | "OMG WHY IS THIS 5-PIECE SET _SLIGHTLY_ WORSE THAN THIS 8-PIECE SET" |
| 16:42.26 | neenee | Hm.. some addon has messed up my mousezooming |
| 16:42.40 | kebinusan | Fisker-, and um... sockets? |
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| 16:43.24 | Fisker- | of course |
| 16:43.29 | kebinusan | I dont see if he is including sockets in that or not |
| 16:43.56 | Amadeo | heh, they nerfed Warriors again in 2.0.3 |
| 16:43.57 | Fisker- | he's not |
| 16:44.26 | Fisker- | Just that it's so obvious to atleast notice the difference in the number of pieces |
| 16:44.29 | kebinusan | Amadeo, how do you figure? |
| 16:44.38 | Mikma | ag`: neat :) |
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| 16:45.28 | Amadeo | kebinusan: Second Wind no longer procs on effects like Freezing Trap, Gouge, etc |
| 16:47.37 | kebinusan | Amadeo, I can understand, freezing trap Im not so sure about though |
| 16:47.39 | Fisker- | well Amadeo didn't the tooltip say "stunning effects"? |
| 16:47.47 | neenee | hm. aguf_BarFader seems to mess up the colors of my bars though |
| 16:47.55 | vid` | barfader doesnt seem to work |
| 16:48.01 | Amadeo | Fisker-: When you're Gouged and you try to do something, the message you get is, "You cannot do that while stunned." :P |
| 16:48.02 | Xogxog | Works for me. |
| 16:48.06 | vid` | i use barfader_m |
| 16:48.09 | Fisker- | probably |
| 16:48.18 | neenee | there's a different barfader? |
| 16:48.19 | Fisker- | but gouge is considered an incapacitating effect |
| 16:48.34 | Amadeo | Even so, Warriors are going to be worthless in PvP very soon if the nerfs keep up |
| 16:48.41 | Fisker- | They already are |
| 16:48.43 | Amadeo | that was the only thing they had left |
| 16:48.58 | Fisker- | But calling this a "nerf" isn't really that unbiased |
| 16:49.09 | Fisker- | You're not supposed to get it outside anything of stunning effects |
| 16:49.21 | Fisker- | and neither freezing traps nor gouge is a stun effect |
| 16:49.38 | neenee | nah, only one barfader. not barfader_m |
| 16:49.44 | Amadeo | It's a nerf because it's in game now and you get the proc from it, and then they're removing it in 2.0.3 |
| 16:49.59 | Amadeo | It's not like they're always perfect on tooltips |
| 16:50.05 | Fisker- | It's a bugfix |
| 16:50.30 | Amadeo | Well, in my opinion, the tooltip was bugged and it should have stayed in game :) |
| 16:50.42 | kebinusan | Ummm its a bugfix and to be quite frank, bliz rushed the 2.0.1 patch out while still pushing many talent changes on beta |
| 16:50.54 | Fisker- | Get me right though, i'm not saying warriors are overpowered |
| 16:51.09 | Amadeo | Seriously, Warriors don't need more negative changes |
| 16:51.15 | vid` | well regular barfader didnt work in raids |
| 16:51.18 | Amadeo | Regardless if you want to call it a nerf or bugfix |
| 16:51.18 | Fisker- | i know |
| 16:51.19 | vid` | barfader_M does tho |
| 16:51.36 | Amadeo | So considering the class as a whole right now, it's a nerf, since it significantly impacts the class negatively |
| 16:51.38 | neenee | where is this barfader_m? It's not on wowace.com/files |
| 16:51.45 | Xogxog | vid`, barfader_m? :o |
| 16:51.55 | vid` | er rangecheck_m |
| 16:51.57 | vid` | whatever |
| 16:51.59 | neenee | perhaps you mean range-something_m |
| 16:52.00 | neenee | ah |
| 16:52.10 | vid` | i always mix em up :P |
| 16:52.13 | Xogxog | Ah. ;P |
| 16:52.19 | Xogxog | Now you make a lot more sense. |
| 16:52.20 | Fisker- | Vanishing not functioning also significantly impacts our calss negatively |
| 16:52.24 | Fisker- | but it's a bug |
| 16:52.25 | Fisker- | not a nerf |
| 16:52.41 | Fisker- | Same with vanish not being usable when faerie fire'd technically |
| 16:52.57 | nevcairiel | faere fire is supposed to block vanish |
| 16:53.30 | kebinusan | no, it prevents stealth, but vanish is supposed to remove effects like FF and hunters mark IIRC |
| 16:53.33 | Xogxog | They need to fix the Hunter's Mark tooltip.. |
| 16:53.46 | Amadeo | Fisker-: What's wrong with Vanish? |
| 16:54.28 | neenee | vanishing means you go into stealth, which is what ff prevents. It's designed to counter just that. |
| 16:54.28 | Xogxog | 'target of this ability can always be seen whether it stealths or turns invisible' my butt. ;P |
| 16:55.22 | Amadeo | Hunters Mark isn't supposed to keep them from stealthing, just to allow you to see them...but I guess Vanish removes it now |
| 16:55.44 | Fisker- | neenee not what imeant |
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| 16:55.48 | neenee | ok |
| 16:55.52 | Amadeo | Rogues really don't need more abilities that remove all effects |
| 16:55.53 | Amadeo | they have plenty already |
| 16:55.56 | Fisker- | Faerie Fire has an effect which removes your abillity to stealth |
| 16:55.59 | Fisker- | Vanish has 2 components |
| 16:56.11 | Fisker- | Stealth/Vanish and freeing you from movement impairing effects |
| 16:56.12 | CIA-17 | 03makk * r22307 10mDarkPact/ (34 files in 14 dirs): |
| 16:56.12 | CIA-17 | mDarkPact: initial commit |
| 16:56.13 | CIA-17 | - A bar that assists you in Dark Pacting |
| 16:56.32 | Fisker- | Before 2.0.1 rogues could always "vanish"(they would free movement impairing effects, but not stealth) when faerie fired |
| 16:56.46 | Fisker- | Now you get a "Abillity not ready yet" or whatever message and it fails completely |
| 16:57.06 | Fisker- | This allows the druid to just smack up some FF, root us and nuke us down while we can't do shit |
| 16:57.22 | Fisker- | Unless we spec for improved sprint that is |
| 16:58.00 | [Cu]Werik | And you think this is a bug or intended? |
| 16:58.05 | Fisker- | it's intended |
| 16:58.15 | Fisker- | But it's a negative change |
| 16:58.17 | [Cu]Werik | I think we agree :) |
| 16:58.31 | nevcairiel | i like it |
| 16:58.34 | nevcairiel | being a druid :D |
| 16:58.37 | [Cu]Werik | It's a bugfix, not a negative change;P |
| 16:58.38 | nevcairiel | altho i didnt know it |
| 16:58.39 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:58.59 | Amadeo | That doesn't really hurt Rogues as much though, because they have so many counters for it anyway |
| 16:59.03 | Fisker- | [Cu]Werik not a bugfix, and even if it was a bugfix it could still be negative :) |
| 16:59.09 | Fisker- | we have 1 Amadeo |
| 16:59.15 | Fisker- | and that's cloak of shadows |
| 16:59.16 | Amadeo | one? |
| 16:59.20 | Fisker- | (which shouldn't remove it btw) |
| 16:59.30 | [Cu]Werik | Of course it is a bugfix, it's in the name of vanish, it makes you vanish, with fairefire, you shouldnt be able to vanish |
| 16:59.35 | Amadeo | Blind will let you restealth too :P |
| 16:59.41 | kebinusan | clos removes everything and 90% resist might as well be 100 |
| 16:59.47 | Fisker- | [Cu]Werik you shouldn't be able to stealth |
| 16:59.48 | Amadeo | You can blind and run away! |
| 17:00.07 | Fisker- | Vanish frees you from all movement impairing effects and puts you into a improved stealth for 10 seconds |
| 17:00.18 | [Cu]Werik | vanish is the same as stealth, it was just an extra that it freed you |
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| 17:01.11 | [Cu]Werik | if you cant stealth you cant vanish simple as that, if you cant vanish it cant free you |
| 17:01.17 | Mikma | ag`: hehe, i started to make my own, better rounded texture :) |
| 17:01.18 | Amadeo | Faerie Fire can be dispelled also |
| 17:01.26 | Fisker- | I'm not a priest |
| 17:01.34 | Fisker- | and we can't reroll :( |
| 17:01.36 | Barbanus | sylvanaar "converted" to what? |
| 17:01.37 | kenlyric|work | and this game isn't designed for 1vs1 pvp |
| 17:01.46 | Fisker- | kenlyric|work bla bla |
| 17:01.47 | Amadeo | It's not designed for any PvP, really |
| 17:01.51 | Amadeo | it's just not balanced |
| 17:01.53 | Fisker- | That's correct Amadeo |
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| 17:02.04 | Amadeo | it's designed for PvE |
| 17:02.04 | Fisker- | There's no point in brining in the "not designed for whatever pvp" |
| 17:02.05 | kenlyric|work | a rogue complaining about a pvp ability that keeps them from being utterly overpowered makes me lol ;) |
| 17:02.05 | [Cu]Werik | you cant balance 8 classes with 200 abilities |
| 17:02.19 | Fisker- | because each time a CM comments on it they contradict themselves |
| 17:02.22 | [Cu]Werik | you can balance factions as a whole |
| 17:02.22 | Amadeo | [Cu]Werik: Sure you can, but you have to want to |
| 17:02.30 | Fisker- | They also said it's not about world pvp |
| 17:02.37 | kagaro | Fisker CoS + vanish .. bc its level 66 and 1 min cooldown |
| 17:02.42 | Fisker- | yet the biggest focus in 1.12->burning crusade WAS WORLD PVP |
| 17:02.55 | [Cu]Werik | there is no world pvp in BC:) |
| 17:02.56 | ag` | I think blizzard does an ok job on balancing |
| 17:02.56 | kenlyric|work | when the dev's say "we can't make 1 person dungeons" what they mean is "we can't balance this game for 1vs1 pvp. |
| 17:02.58 | kebinusan | not really |
| 17:03.02 | [Cu]Werik | there are 3 objectives thats all:P |
| 17:03.02 | Fisker- | kagaro CoS shouldn't remove Faerie Fire |
| 17:03.03 | kenlyric|work | yup, world pvp. |
| 17:03.07 | kebinusan | 4 |
| 17:03.10 | Fisker- | [Cu]Werik exactly |
| 17:03.11 | Amadeo | kenlyric|work: They could easily make 1 person instances, also |
| 17:03.12 | kenlyric|work | pvp with a lot of people :) |
| 17:03.15 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r22309 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: |
| 17:03.15 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 17:03.15 | CIA-17 | - Icon size configurable now (default is 14 px, Mikma is my mother) |
| 17:03.15 | CIA-17 | - Removed AceConsole from module |
| 17:03.17 | kagaro | read the tooltip it should .. removes all debuffs |
| 17:03.19 | [Cu]Werik | 4 whatever:P |
| 17:03.28 | kagaro | ff is a debuff |
| 17:03.30 | kebinusan | However the Terrokar pvp is only available for 5 minutes every 6 hours |
| 17:03.54 | Amadeo | I would absolutely love one person instances |
| 17:03.56 | Fisker- | since you can't read yourself i'm gonna paste the tooltip |
| 17:04.03 | Fisker- | Instantly removes all existing harmful spell effects and increases your chance to resist all spells by 90% for 5 sec. |
| 17:04.06 | kebinusan | Amadeo, go play Oblivion |
| 17:04.12 | Amadeo | kebinusan: Already did |
| 17:04.14 | kebinusan | or 1 man scholo |
| 17:04.15 | [Cu]Werik | those 3 towers in HP is stupid anyway, one single lvl70 can camp them with a flying mount |
| 17:04.17 | Fisker- | "harmful spell effects" were considered stuff like dots and so forth |
| 17:04.18 | kenlyric|work | and anyway, FF on a rogue is useless.. the whole point of a rogue is to kill you before you can move. ;) |
| 17:04.19 | Fisker- | FF is not a dot |
| 17:04.21 | Fisker- | but a debuff |
| 17:04.22 | Amadeo | kebinusan: You have to be overpowered to 1 man Scholo |
| 17:04.36 | kebinusan | Im a warlock, its in the class description |
| 17:04.39 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:04.39 | Fisker- | that's what blizzard themselves have told us with "harmful spell effects" |
| 17:04.50 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.03 | Fisker- | yes |
| 17:05.12 | Fisker- | which was why there was a blue person responding to it |
| 17:05.15 | Fisker- | cause people were confused |
| 17:05.29 | Amadeo | Imagine a solo instance that was very large and challenging...one that might even take hours to complete...you could camp halfway into it and finish the next day...the instance would design encounters based on your class..that would be so awesome :) |
| 17:05.36 | kebinusan | yeah, flying mounts are stupid right now for warlocks considering our pets dont fly |
| 17:05.39 | neenee | could it be that aguf_aggro-thing and aguf_faderbar are conflicting in the sense that the health bar keep the red color after a while? |
| 17:05.41 | [Cu]Werik | They also told, wow is not an 1v1 game;) |
| 17:05.58 | kebinusan | yeah, take the Multiplayer out of MMORPG |
| 17:06.03 | [Cu]Werik | So start thinking as a group:) |
| 17:06.13 | Fisker- | They also said that it was a 1v1 game |
| 17:06.15 | [Cu]Werik | 5 rogues > 1 druid see |
| 17:06.22 | Amadeo | kebinusan: You just said you could 1 man scholo |
| 17:06.32 | neenee | lol |
| 17:06.41 | Fisker- | I'm not even going to argue about the "it's not whatever type of game" |
| 17:07.00 | kenlyric|work | yeah, you don't need to argue about it, since the dev's have endlessly said it. |
| 17:07.11 | Amadeo | kebinusan: Besides, the loot wouldn't be as good as group encounters...it's just for fun |
| 17:07.14 | Fisker- | No they have not |
| 17:07.18 | kebinusan | Amadeo, Im in 7/9 Tier 3 and pretty much pimped out and bored when not raiding, so yeah artificially challenging things like that are fun |
| 17:07.19 | [Cu]Werik | they did:) |
| 17:07.23 | kenlyric|work | not "we can't balance this game 1vs1" but "we don't want to balance this game 1v1 |
| 17:07.34 | Fisker- | But the times the CM's have been out to tell us it their message have been so contradicting you could just as well say that 1+1 = 3 |
| 17:07.56 | Amadeo | kebinusan: Exactly...something challenging is fun, especially when you can do it alone and not have to worry about finding a group just because you couldn't sleep one night and you're up at 3 AM :) |
| 17:08.02 | kebinusan | Ive never seen anything from CM's saying this game was ever intended to be balanced for 1v1 |
| 17:08.02 | Makk | When I've changed properties for my addon on the SVN, do they automatically upload to the SVN or do I have to do something? |
| 17:08.03 | Fisker- | They also say the game is not about world pvp and that shouldn't be taken into consideration either |
| 17:08.03 | Amadeo | even if the loot is worthless to you |
| 17:08.11 | Barbanus | if you balance the game 1v1, you completely unbalance the game in groups. |
| 17:08.17 | Amadeo | kebinusan: Tseric said it to Priests |
| 17:08.19 | kenlyric|work | I've never seen one CM ever say this game is completely balanced 1vs1, or attempts to be. |
| 17:08.20 | Fisker- | But why the hell did they make several zones with world "pvp" as a focus? |
| 17:08.28 | Fisker- | if it's not the way the game is designed |
| 17:09.03 | Barbanus | if a warrior was balanced against every class for instance in 1v1, if he had a healer with him .. he would be godly .. you just cant balance 1v1 and keep group play balanced. |
| 17:09.16 | kenlyric|work | Amadeo: no, tseric said priests should be able to hold their own 1vs1. |
| 17:09.24 | kebinusan | its not a focus Fisker- there are small benefits for controlling pvp objectives but nowhere near a major advantage |
| 17:09.41 | Fisker- | Besides you can't balance group pvp cause you can't say that "this group will go against the other group" cause people are going to make their own groups |
| 17:09.45 | neenee | Too often things are gear-dependant anyway. |
| 17:09.51 | kenlyric|work | and world pvp isn't designed well around solo. |
| 17:09.57 | Amadeo | kenlyric|work: Why should they? He tells Warriors they shouldn't be allowed to unless they have a healer with them :P |
| 17:10.15 | kenlyric|work | Amadeo: exactly, because the game isn't balanced for 1vs1 pvp :) |
| 17:10.16 | Barbanus | kenlyric|work, they can .. they can survive long enough 1v1 for some team-mate to help them out. |
| 17:10.20 | kenlyric|work | some classes can, some san't |
| 17:10.32 | Barbanus | kenlyric|work, since I assume you are talking about a holy priest. |
| 17:10.33 | Fisker- | kebinusan when mentioned it has infact been one of the only key points |
| 17:11.16 | Amadeo | kenlyric|work: The game isnt' balanced for any PvP |
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| 17:11.51 | CIA-17 | mDarkPact: |
| 17:11.51 | CIA-17 | - Fixing externals |
| 17:12.00 | Fisker- | But Tseric said that no class have a 100% chance to win (barring biased fights where one is better than the other, has better gear, is on a mob, whatever) the warrior can be beaten by a lot of classes consistenly and at a 100% chance(IF he knows how to play) |
| 17:12.02 | kenlyric|work | not true. |
| 17:12.14 | neenee | Hm. Quite the endless discussion. |
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| 17:12.56 | Fisker- | Yet when mentioning "Well <class> can easily pwn <class> with a 100% certainty(still barring biased fights)" then the game is not balanced against 1vs1 so that is to be expected |
| 17:13.05 | Fisker- | contradictions and hypocracy |
| 17:13.07 | Amadeo | It is true, the only chance a Warrior has to win is by severely outgearing the class he's fighting |
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| 17:13.15 | kebinusan | ... lol no |
| 17:13.17 | Amadeo | assuming all players are highly skilled |
| 17:13.25 | kebinusan | Warriors are quite capable of holding their own in pvp |
| 17:13.34 | kenlyric|work | yeah, until their friends arrive. |
| 17:13.39 | kenlyric|work | just like a holy priest ;) |
| 17:13.43 | kebinusan | But this game is not balanced. you can stop right there because its not balanced in pve or pvp |
| 17:13.44 | Barbanus | I laugh when I see pve spec'd fury warriors cry about PvP |
| 17:13.48 | Fisker- | untill blizzard fixes that fact within their developement team/design team/cm team/whatever then all arguments about "This game is designed against blabla pvp" are void |
| 17:14.03 | Eej | good geared Warriors who are also skilled players can hold their own no problem |
| 17:14.20 | Eej | assuming they do more than just go raaaah whirlwind mortal strike |
| 17:14.27 | Barbanus | Fury is about sustained dps, its not about burst damage like you can get with a big 2h and MS. |
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| 17:14.49 | kenlyric|work | Fisker-: so, you have made up a contradiction and think that invalidates the argument. Whatever works for you, I guess. |
| 17:14.51 | Eej | if by more, I mean stuff like sundering priests and taunting hunter pets before you get hit by freeze trap |
| 17:15.00 | haste | Barbanus: 2h fury is good burst dps tho' |
| 17:15.05 | Fisker- | kenlyric|work nope, tseric posted it on the warrior forum |
| 17:15.11 | Barbanus | haste, 2h fury, yes :) |
| 17:15.20 | Eej | no mortal strike debuff |
| 17:15.21 | Eej | :< |
| 17:15.23 | kenlyric|work | it's not a contradiction! he was talking to two different classes! |
| 17:15.33 | Barbanus | haste, its the duel wielding fury pve spec warriors that make me laugh |
| 17:15.34 | nuOHEP | 2h fury is good only with untamed blade imo |
| 17:15.36 | kenlyric|work | what he said about warriors is true. What he said about priests is true. |
| 17:15.38 | kebinusan | Honestly why does everyone think everything is only fair if they can win a majority of the time |
| 17:15.51 | haste | Barbanus: why's that? |
| 17:15.59 | kebinusan | So what you got beat by a hunter, go attack the squishy caster instead |
| 17:16.01 | Fisker- | First stating that the game was not balanced around 1vs1, but that no class had a 100% chance to win a fight(I asume he means around 50-70% which would be ok) hence balanced |
| 17:16.01 | kenlyric|work | kebinusan: because they're obviously the best at their class :) |
| 17:16.43 | Barbanus | haste, I've seen so many of them cry about not being able to hold their own in pve. |
| 17:16.47 | kebinusan | Fisker-, 1v1 comes down to he who uses the most consumables will likely win |
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| 17:17.07 | nuOHEP | haste, you are on Grim Batol, right? |
| 17:17.12 | haste | nuOHEP: yes |
| 17:17.21 | haste | nuOHEP: (EU) |
| 17:17.24 | kenlyric|work | Fisker-: you've yet to show a contradiction. No class does have a 100% chance to win. |
| 17:17.25 | nuOHEP | heh... youve pwned me yesterday :/ |
| 17:17.29 | Eej | of course, kebinusan, what else are consumables for |
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| 17:17.33 | kenlyric|work | Heck, as a holy priest I can beat a rogue of his stuns fail. |
| 17:17.38 | Barbanus | haste, err I mean hold their own in pvp |
| 17:17.41 | kenlyric|work | s/of/if |
| 17:17.45 | haste | oh, heh |
| 17:18.00 | Barbanus | kenlyric|work, hehe |
| 17:18.15 | Fisker- | 1vs1 a mage can take down a warrior assuming both players play just as well, have the same gear, are not affected by other outside influences |
| 17:18.21 | Barbanus | kenlyric|work, i love when a rogue tries to stunlock my paladin |
| 17:19.02 | Barbanus | Fisker-, if the warrior is MS with a good 2h, and gets the jump, its a totally different fight than if the mage starts with a sheep, and gets off a fireball. |
| 17:19.06 | kebinusan | 1v1 a mage can frostbolt kite a warrior using rank 1 frostbolts from full to dead if he's good |
| 17:19.09 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r22311 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 17:19.09 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:19.09 | CIA-17 | - added "Ferocious Inspiration" key, |
| 17:19.09 | CIA-17 | - added "Ferocious Inspiration" french localization, |
| 17:19.09 | CIA-17 | - fixed "Frost Trap Aura", "Immolation Trap Effact" french localizations. |
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| 17:19.22 | kebinusan | but again, rare situations :-) |
| 17:19.35 | kenlyric|work | ok, still not seeing how that is a contradiction to the idea that the game isn't balanced for 1vs1. |
| 17:19.49 | Fisker- | Barbanus yes that is correct, but the game isn't based on world pvp, so that situation cannot occur as the mage will see the warrior coming |
| 17:19.55 | CIA-17 | 03teomyr * r22312 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:19.55 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:19.55 | CIA-17 | - Fixes for deDE bosses and zones |
| 17:19.57 | Eej | world pvp is awesome though |
| 17:20.04 | Eej | people sitting around drinking and then they get instagibbed |
| 17:20.22 | Eej | because ranged attacks instacrit if your target is sitting when you fire them |
| 17:20.23 | Fisker- | And even if got the jump it's just about getting away |
| 17:20.39 | Teomyr | lol, wow instagib |
| 17:20.50 | Eej | i haven't seen any cloth/leather class survive Multi/Arcane/Auto all critting yet |
| 17:20.51 | kenlyric|work | we need that graphic in this game. |
| 17:21.05 | kenlyric|work | if you die from a crit you should gib |
| 17:21.12 | Fisker- | And considered a mage can take a warrior down with 5% the usual damage they can do, there shouldn't be the biggest troubles with 100% their damage |
| 17:21.21 | Aileen_ | that would be awesome :) |
| 17:21.33 | Eej | 100% of the damage a Mage does means they'll be chain-casting fireball/frostbolt |
| 17:21.37 | Eej | aka really dumb idea |
| 17:22.35 | Fisker- | Try to remember i'm not saying "omg x and y is overpowered, nerf z and v" i'm saying that blizzard has troubles coming up with a consistent design plan. |
| 17:22.57 | Fisker- | World PVP has been one of their biggest focuses around the rogue patch and up until burning crusade |
| 17:23.08 | Fisker- | Yet Tseric claimed that the game wasn't balanced after world pvp |
| 17:23.16 | Fisker- | contradiction, if you don't want to admit that i don't care |
| 17:23.18 | kebinusan | Fisker-, Their design plan is fine, people should jsut get over 1v11 dueling as pvp |
| 17:23.27 | kebinusan | err 1v1 |
| 17:23.32 | kenlyric|work | lol. |
| 17:23.38 | Fisker- | This is just an example and since you probably don't want to take that into account i'm done in this discussion |
| 17:23.45 | kenlyric|work | they implemented world PVP. They hardly focused on it. |
| 17:23.55 | Fisker- | It was the highlights of their patches |
| 17:23.58 | kenlyric|work | And even focusing on it doesn't mean classes are balanced around it. |
| 17:24.10 | Fisker- | also "omg world pvp" in all interviews about Burning Crusade |
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| 17:24.47 | kenlyric|work | yeah, because there's no other content in the burning crusade that they would need to balance around... |
| 17:25.39 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r22313 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua): |
| 17:25.39 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 17:25.39 | CIA-17 | -Added option to show amount of casts left with healing spells. |
| 17:26.06 | kebinusan | Other than tribes I cant think of one online game with truly balanced pvp |
| 17:26.36 | kebinusan | even then it was group balance not 1v1 |
| 17:27.29 | kebinusan | but meh, Im done with this discussion too.. back to idling :-) |
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| 17:29.49 | kenlyric|work | so, microsoft released this little thing called an Xbox. |
| 17:30.27 | kenlyric|work | guess they don't make operating system software anymore. |
| 17:31.00 | CIA-17 | 03makk * r22314 10mDarkPact/ (10 files in 10 dirs): |
| 17:31.00 | CIA-17 | mDarkPact: |
| 17:31.00 | CIA-17 | - Fixing externals. (again) |
| 17:31.39 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22315 10Prat/Prat/modules/ (17 files): Prat: additional modules converted |
| 17:32.18 | sylvanaar | make it stop |
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| 17:32.52 | kebinusan | sylvanaar, whats different in your prat branch? |
| 17:33.27 | CIA-17 | 03maudy * r22316 10ClassColors/ClassColors.toc: ClassColors: Clean up some TOC fields and add wowinterface as a release site |
| 17:33.29 | kagaro | heya ck |
| 17:33.35 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:33.50 | kagaro | lol figures i just sent you a forum pm and you logged in :P |
| 17:33.51 | kenlyric|work | sylvanaar: what's the conversion about? |
| 17:34.21 | snurre | can you move mEnemyCastbar? |
| 17:34.30 | Xogxog | snurre, you can if you edit the code. ;P |
| 17:34.35 | snurre | gah |
| 17:35.35 | sylvanaar | module enhancements |
| 17:36.07 | sylvanaar | trying to consolidate the code |
| 17:36.15 | Nickenyfiken | haha got taints in blizzard raidui |
| 17:36.48 | kenlyric|work | blizzard raidui is a taint. |
| 17:37.55 | sylvanaar | im doing what bigwigs/ora does sorta |
| 17:40.05 | sylvanaar | also, im working on a change to prat's parsing code so that the chat is parsed once instead of several times |
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| 17:41.53 | sylvanaar | the original code, while clever, creates dynamic patterns which are a nightmare to maintain |
| 17:43.30 | LLoydBates | sylvanaar: is there a default template for a prat modul? if one wants to write a plugin, that is :\ |
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| 17:43.37 | sylvanaar | no |
| 17:43.51 | LLoydBates | k |
| 17:44.18 | sylvanaar | im trying to steer it towards that |
| 17:45.13 | CIA-17 | 03teomyr * r22317 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/deDE.lua: |
| 17:45.13 | CIA-17 | Cartographer: |
| 17:45.13 | CIA-17 | - Added deDE localization for InstanceNotes |
| 17:45.28 | Nickenyfiken | Gmail2 :-) |
| 17:45.34 | Nickenyfiken | looking forward to it |
| 17:48.58 | greylock | anyone already developing it? |
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| 17:51.51 | ven_ | here |
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| 17:56.04 | Nickenyfiken | yup grennon |
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| 17:56.51 | greylock | ah sweet, good to know :) |
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| 18:03.01 | Fisker- | Nickenyfiken grennon is back? :O |
| 18:05.04 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r22318 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer-LookNFeel - if you drag (or scale) the WorldMapFrame off the screen, it will put itself back on the screen now. |
| 18:09.11 | CrisCrOss | CKKnight i had tried ur cartographer but had a problem with the atlas loot feature |
| 18:09.19 | CrisCrOss | how do u view boss loot? |
| 18:09.27 | CrisCrOss | do i need atlas loot installed? |
| 18:09.36 | mjc_ | no |
| 18:09.51 | mjc_ | it works fine for me, no other mods requried |
| 18:09.52 | mjc_ | required |
| 18:09.55 | Nickenyfiken | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3772.0 |
| 18:10.01 | ckknight | CrisCrOss: just click a boss note |
| 18:10.01 | CrisCrOss | u ctrl+click the note right? |
| 18:10.05 | ckknight | no, just click |
| 18:10.11 | CrisCrOss | ill give it anothr go |
| 18:10.16 | ckknight | try Onyxia |
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| 18:10.19 | ckknight | I know she works |
| 18:10.39 | Nickenyfiken | Onyxia is a noob |
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| 18:11.17 | mjc_ | ckknight: MC, BWL, [RT}AQ, Naxx, SFK also work, that I've tested |
| 18:11.39 | CrisCrOss | o i was testing like mara n stuff |
| 18:11.43 | Fisker- | weirdo mjc |
| 18:11.47 | mjc_ | s/}/]/ |
| 18:11.49 | Fisker- | i've tested SFK too once |
| 18:12.01 | nevcairiel | SFK? |
| 18:12.18 | snurre | lawl, some guy in my guild just gquit cause i told him to get a mic cause it's needed for raid and premade pvp |
| 18:12.21 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: where are the droprates from in instancenotes? |
| 18:12.25 | mjc_ | lvl22-30 or soemthing like that |
| 18:12.38 | nevcairiel | funny thing to list it with all the raid instances :D |
| 18:12.41 | mjc_ | Nickenyfiken: they show for me right next to the loot |
| 18:12.46 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: PeriodicTable-2.0 |
| 18:12.57 | mjc_ | nevcairiel: I went there with my lock |
| 18:13.08 | Nickenyfiken | ah ofcourse |
| 18:13.15 | Nickenyfiken | and they are from? :-) |
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| 18:14.00 | kagaro | ckknight: read your forum mail :P .. back in a bit got a meeting |
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| 18:20.47 | Barbanus | Best, post, ever.... http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/59382607.htm?posts=1 |
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| 18:21.09 | Barbanus | "What you are, in effect, asking for is a digital diaper because you engage in a natural process of relieving yourself, verbally, rather than exercising mature control over your own behavior." |
| 18:22.16 | BankZ | Is there anything like HOT Candy for DOTs? |
| 18:22.34 | Nickenyfiken | damn people is playing with fireworks all they long and its many days left to new years eve |
| 18:23.36 | pastamancer | Barbanus: haha, zing! |
| 18:24.33 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r22319 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - update tablets when map opened, should fix bug where tablets stay open |
| 18:24.35 | neenee | um.. I think Click2Cast just messed up my right-click menu in aguf_unitframes, I can't get the menu to leavea group |
| 18:25.13 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r22320 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - added frFR TBC Herbs |
| 18:25.30 | ckknight | kergoth: ping |
| 18:25.55 | nevcairiel | neenee: that would happen if you bind right-click to any cast, obviously :D |
| 18:26.09 | neenee | I know, but it's not bound |
| 18:26.48 | neenee | ah, shift+right-click gives me the menu I seek, but I wish it would work without shift. |
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| 18:27.04 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 18:27.10 | Fisker- | nice one Barbanus |
| 18:27.50 | Amadeo | you guys recommend any CDR brands? |
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| 18:27.54 | snurre | hm, weird... the fps in media player classic drops looow when my WoW is focused :( |
| 18:28.05 | Amadeo | This 100 stack of Imation doesn't work in my CDR drive, but works in this older 24x I have |
| 18:28.56 | Xogxog | Amadeo, I use cheap Memorex stuff.. works good with my burner. |
| 18:29.21 | Amadeo | Yeah...I got this for like $10, never had media problems before |
| 18:29.32 | Amadeo | I called Imation up and they're giving me a new spindle, but I expect the same problems |
| 18:30.01 | Makk | anyone here have experience with SurfaceLib? |
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| 18:38.05 | Mikma | oh man, where's ag when i need him |
| 18:38.28 | Gnarfoz | one-hand surfing? |
| 18:38.38 | Gnarfoz | D: |
| 18:39.47 | Fisker- | what do you need from him? :O |
| 18:39.56 | Mikma | i made a new texture for agUf |
| 18:43.02 | Fisker- | ;( |
| 18:43.04 | Fisker- | he ain't online |
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| 18:47.28 | Fisker- | HAHHAHAHAHA |
| 18:47.35 | xgravix|laptop | pwnt |
| 18:47.39 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1167243372203.jpg <-EFG! |
| 18:47.44 | Xogxog | Weird.. |
| 18:47.53 | Fisker- | search for google for "bloody face" |
| 18:47.55 | Fisker- | and you get this |
| 18:47.56 | Fisker- | http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://hardkore_ehw22.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/kableface.jpg&imgrefurl=http://members.tripod.com/hardkore_ehw22/&h=480&w=640&sz=47&hl=da&start=39&tbnid=oYg3kQPy4BB2-M:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbloody%2Bface%26start%3D36%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dda%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN |
| 18:47.59 | Xogxog | Got some funky error that BugSack isn't catching. |
| 18:48.08 | Mikma | whoop |
| 18:48.13 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r22321 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Variables.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Added texture called 'Round' without permission. muahahaha. Enjoy :) |
| 18:48.25 | add\\Leialyn | anyone knows why my combatlog gets eaten everytime ? |
| 18:48.42 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r22322 10ag_UnitFrames/Images/Bars/Round.tga: ag_UnitFrames: And now the texture |
| 18:49.01 | Mikma | PS. I made that myself :P |
| 18:49.05 | ZOAS|zzzzz | Mikma - should it be added to agUF so much, or to Surfaces? |
| 18:49.19 | Mikma | ZealotOnAStick: i made it for agUF |
| 18:50.12 | SoLoR | ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/4057 |
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| 18:52.33 | Xogxog | What's this: http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l256/That1Swede/error.png |
| 18:52.51 | axxo | i've seen that aswel |
| 18:52.58 | SoLoR | same :< |
| 18:53.15 | SoLoR | and bugsack isnt catching it for some reason as newest cartographer bug :) |
| 18:53.57 | Xogxog | Well, it's easy to reproduce. ;P |
| 18:54.11 | SoLoR | looks like some dewdrop bug |
| 18:54.26 | SoLoR | same lines from 2 different addons |
| 18:55.09 | Xogxog | I was toying with eePanels, down in the submenus, then I click on my chat frame and it spews that out. ;P |
| 18:55.38 | SoLoR | ye if you close dropdown menu with clicking on some frame it pops error |
| 18:55.48 | SoLoR | if you click "close" it works fine tho! |
| 18:55.54 | ckknight | it's not fun to find your pillow covered in blood |
| 18:55.55 | ckknight | :-( |
| 18:56.01 | SoLoR | :( |
| 18:56.11 | Xogxog | ckknight, depends on whose blood it is. |
| 18:56.16 | ckknight | mine |
| 18:56.33 | Xogxog | ckknight, then, yeah, it's probably not very fun. |
| 18:57.00 | Grine | Xogxog, Obviuos questin: whos blood would make it fun? :S |
| 18:57.07 | ckknight | SoLoR: is that an error? |
| 18:57.19 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight, where can I find a listing of the proper svn:keywords to use? |
| 18:57.20 | Xogxog | ckknight, yeah, http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l256/That1Swede/error.png |
| 18:57.26 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: google |
| 18:57.31 | Xogxog | Grine, that's for me to know and you not to find out. |
| 18:57.46 | Grine | Xogxog, that's reassuring |
| 18:57.48 | Grine | I think |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-17 | 03makk * r22323 10mDarkPact/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-17 | mDarkPact: |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-17 | - Using SurfaceLib correctly now. |
| 18:57.57 | CIA-17 | - Added more textures. |
| 18:57.59 | ZealotOnAStick | trying on google, not as easy to find that as I thought it'd be. |
| 18:58.12 | ckknight | Xogxog: what's the error? that's just a stack |
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| 18:58.29 | ckknight | oh, wait |
| 18:58.36 | ckknight | that's an errant print |
| 18:59.17 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r22324 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - remove an errant print line |
| 18:59.27 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r22325 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_SinglePrice.lua): |
| 18:59.27 | CIA-17 | Fence: |
| 18:59.27 | CIA-17 | - SinglePrice.lua: added option to either show bids on an item via text ("Bid") or by fading the bid money frame. |
| 18:59.54 | Hjalte | How can an addon tell, if an item has a bid on it? |
| 19:00.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahah, finally found it. |
| 19:00.25 | Saroz | WTB lib for tracking incomming heals on raid members, kk |
| 19:00.25 | Xogxog | ckknight, BugSack isn't catching it, that's the best I could do. ;P |
| 19:00.34 | ckknight | Xogxog: I fixed it |
| 19:00.40 | Xogxog | Suhweet. |
| 19:00.50 | ckknight | r22324 |
| 19:01.11 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r22326 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua): |
| 19:01.11 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 19:01.11 | CIA-17 | -Fixed DPM (broke it last patch), Arcane Missiles, calculation results are now returned in tables. |
| 19:02.26 | Saroz | Anyone planning on making a lib for tracking incomming heals on raid members? Like banzai for aggro? |
| 19:03.27 | Hjalte | Hmm, Saroz, You can't use the same method as Grid? |
| 19:03.39 | Saroz | Hjalte, sure, but why douplicate code |
| 19:04.08 | Hjalte | Saroz: You're right about that.. |
| 19:04.36 | Neriak | if Grid then Grid:Method() else myAddon:MyMethod() end :P |
| 19:04.50 | Neriak | you can compensate it at least hehe |
| 19:04.51 | Saroz | thats silly |
| 19:05.00 | Saroz | especially since I need them for my own raid frames |
| 19:05.00 | Neriak | no thats fun ^^ |
| 19:05.30 | Saroz | Maybe I can trick vhaarr into writing a lib |
| 19:05.37 | ckknight | libs ftw |
| 19:05.39 | Neriak | Saroz: good addon btw, my wife is using it and totally happy. since it's the only one acting like CTRA |
| 19:05.44 | Saroz | :p |
| 19:05.45 | Saroz | ty |
| 19:07.31 | Saroz | well, basically you could take GridStatusHeals.lua and turn it into a lib |
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| 19:08.13 | Saroz | and just TriggerEvent when someone is casting a heal, and when that heal ends |
| 19:08.26 | Saroz | the tricky thing, I guess, is keeping track of multiple heals on one unit |
| 19:08.28 | Mikma | anyone tested my supersexy bar-texture yet? |
| 19:08.48 | CrisCrOss | mikma do download i need to be able to dl the trunks |
| 19:08.48 | CrisCrOss | right? |
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| 19:08.54 | Azurewrath | Mikma: mhm.. gimme a sec |
| 19:09.02 | Mikma | CrisCrOss: what? |
| 19:09.07 | CrisCrOss | how do i setup Aceupdater to download ur build |
| 19:09.10 | CrisCrOss | for aguf |
| 19:09.16 | Mikma | i don't know |
| 19:09.19 | Mikma | i use SVN |
| 19:09.54 | Azurewrath | Mikma: mhm.. don't like it. Works though. :p |
| 19:10.05 | Mikma | Azurewrath: you like steel? |
| 19:10.10 | Azurewrath | nope ;) |
| 19:10.11 | CrisCrOss | ah i got it |
| 19:10.18 | Mikma | then it figures :) |
| 19:10.21 | Azurewrath | hehe yes |
| 19:10.29 | Saroz | gonna check it out mik |
| 19:10.29 | Mikma | the people who like Steel will like it too since it don't have the crap in it |
| 19:10.32 | Saroz | Mikma* |
| 19:10.42 | Azurewrath | i used Charcoal and now Gloss.. but maybe i'll go back to Charcoal.. |
| 19:11.24 | syeren | You speaking Ace addons? |
| 19:11.32 | syeren | Wrong channel, but you are. |
| 19:11.35 | syeren | Otravi owns. |
| 19:12.07 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r22327 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - now when a notes database is registered, the global database is traversed for notes that should belong to the new database. If a note is found, it is transferred over. |
| 19:12.24 | Antiarc | I'm a fan of Gloss, personally. |
| 19:12.28 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r22328 10/branches/Voyeur/ (Bindings.xml Voyeur.lua Voyeur.toc): - Added binding, see if I can get keywords working right this time. |
| 19:12.34 | Saroz | I use Steel atm |
| 19:12.39 | Saroz | Been using Otravi for ages |
| 19:12.48 | Saroz | and gloss is nice on big bars |
| 19:12.49 | Mikma | Saroz: well, then you might like it, or not :) |
| 19:13.12 | Xogxog | I'm a BantoBar-person myself. ;P |
| 19:13.18 | Amadeo | Banto is the best |
| 19:13.21 | Grine | got a pick of your thingie Mikma? |
| 19:13.23 | Saroz | nah |
| 19:13.24 | CrisCrOss | bartender for me |
| 19:13.25 | Saroz | got tired of it |
| 19:13.26 | Grine | Banto is win yeah |
| 19:13.44 | Amadeo | Steel is my new second favorite |
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| 19:13.57 | Mikma | Grine: what? |
| 19:14.36 | Grine | round texture Mikma, I'm tired :P |
| 19:14.37 | CrisCrOss | i feel like playing some CS |
| 19:14.42 | CrisCrOss | what are some good games out there now a days |
| 19:14.49 | CrisCrOss | all iv been playin is WoW |
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| 19:15.15 | Mikma | Grine: umm, i still dont get it. but yes my texture is almost like Steel but without the extracrap |
| 19:15.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: omg, r22304 = the shit :D hiding the macro text owns |
| 19:16.15 | CrisCrOss | what dmg meter is in this pic > http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot090406155042gq6.jpg |
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| 19:16.49 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r22329 10/branches/Voyeur/Voyeur.lua: - Again with the keywords. |
| 19:16.50 | Gnarfoz | CrisCrOss: that's SW_Stats |
| 19:16.53 | sbu | uh |
| 19:16.57 | sbu | mikma texture for aguf? |
| 19:17.01 | sbu | *downloading* |
| 19:17.02 | Mikma | sbu: yes |
| 19:17.13 | sbu | i guess it will crash my wow? :p |
| 19:17.16 | Health | is it a lua bug that lets you group join AV with an addon? |
| 19:17.30 | Mikma | CrisCrOss: minnastats i think |
| 19:17.53 | Mikma | sbu: well it didn't crash my picky wow hehe |
| 19:18.33 | Gnarfoz | Mikma: huh, wth is minnastats? ;D |
| 19:19.00 | Mikma | Gnarfoz: search it from curse-gaming and see :) |
| 19:19.18 | Xogxog | Health, you mean /script JoinBattlefield(0,1) ? |
| 19:19.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Argh. Dammit! Why isn't it pulling my revision number in? |
| 19:19.22 | Gnarfoz | it's quite obviously SW_Stats ^^ http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2091/sw-stats/ |
| 19:19.41 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r22330 10Baddiel/ (Baddiel.lua Baddiel.toc): Baddiel: Now v2 compliant |
| 19:19.50 | Antiarc | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_headline=help--i-m-an-idiot-&method=full&objectid=18328274&siteid=94762-name_page.html |
| 19:20.10 | Xogxog | CrisCrOss, http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4825/minnastats/ |
| 19:20.32 | Gnarfoz | no way it's minnastats :D |
| 19:20.59 | Health | Xogxog: I think so :p |
| 19:20.59 | Gnarfoz | what's up with curses' screenshot function, anyways? gives me .pngs to download even though it should be displaying jpgs |
| 19:21.16 | Gnarfoz | [Cu]Werik: ping? ^^ |
| 19:21.28 | kenlyric|work | hahaha. |
| 19:21.37 | Xogxog | Gnarfoz, they're working fine here. :o |
| 19:21.49 | Gnarfoz | browser? |
| 19:21.55 | Gnarfoz | (firefox 2.0.1 for me) |
| 19:22.06 | Gnarfoz | (2.0.0.1, even) |
| 19:22.57 | Xogxog | Firefox/2.0.0.1 |
| 19:23.18 | Gnarfoz | weird |
| 19:23.23 | Xogxog | What screenshot thingie's messing you up? |
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| 19:24.59 | Gnarfoz | Xogxog: minnastats' one for example |
| 19:25.14 | Gnarfoz | hm, reloaded, now I get a pop-up once |
| 19:25.19 | Gnarfoz | and then again, downloadable PNGs |
| 19:26.24 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r22331 10/branches/Voyeur/ (. Voyeur.lua): Voyeur: Let's try this again. I think I have it this time. |
| 19:26.49 | Xogxog | For me it just creates the popup, then it uses that popup window for each other screenshot clicked. |
| 19:27.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Finally! |
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| 19:28.29 | Gngsk | ZealotOnAStick, what'd you do there? |
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| 19:29.03 | BankZ | Is there anything like HOT Candy for DOTs? |
| 19:29.48 | Gngsk | BankZ, tried Chronometer? |
| 19:30.13 | ckknight | DOT Candy? |
| 19:30.16 | BankZ | nope |
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| 19:30.25 | BankZ | I didnt see a DOT candy |
| 19:30.29 | BankZ | is there one? |
| 19:30.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Gngsk - finally figured out and got working one of the basic things with svn keywords working. |
| 19:30.36 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
| 19:30.46 | ZealotOnAStick | nothing at all substantial, I'm still happy. |
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| 19:31.08 | Xogxog | WTB: Xuerian. |
| 19:31.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Now I can actually get to trying to make some code that -does- something. |
| 19:31.15 | BankZ | everything I have tried seems to miss a lot or catch too many |
| 19:32.08 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r22332 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua): |
| 19:32.08 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 19:32.08 | CIA-17 | -Added crit buffs, fixed error with macros that have no name, added crit damage range |
| 19:32.16 | Barbanus | What is the |
| 19:32.20 | Mikma | so, what'cha think is my texture good? :O |
| 19:32.44 | kagaro | ckknight: how do you feel about an explicit RegisterCommHandler type functions so a module can indicate not to accept a note received via comm? |
| 19:32.45 | Barbanus | What is the "best" dmg meter right now ... I've used SwStats, but I find it resource intensive ... |
| 19:32.57 | Gnarfoz | still is |
| 19:33.03 | ckknight | kagaro: oh, I dunno about that |
| 19:33.06 | ckknight | what'd it be useful for? |
| 19:33.24 | bladlus | Hm.. I just updated my Ace addons with the auto updater, and now my buttons doesn't show their hotkeys anymore. Using Bartender3. Does anyone know how to show them? (And yes, the "Hotkey" option is turned on on all bars)) |
| 19:33.33 | ckknight | Mikma: screenie? |
| 19:33.47 | kagaro | for Notesharing allow people to turn on auto reception of notes, or block notes form certain people since there is no way to stop someone in your raid/guild/party from sendng you crap notes |
| 19:33.54 | kagaro | *off |
| 19:34.15 | SoLoR | ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/4058 |
| 19:34.27 | ckknight | SoLoR: whoops |
| 19:34.39 | kagaro | just gives a way to implment a modular filter on getting notes |
| 19:35.10 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r22333 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - typo |
| 19:35.47 | ckknight | kagaro: we don't need a separate handler for comm, I'd think |
| 19:35.57 | ckknight | but it could be added to the normal handler |
| 19:36.14 | ckknight | similar to IsNoteHidden |
| 19:36.51 | SoLoR | ckknight: 2006/12/27 20:36:21-734-x2]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\Notes.lua:2373: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got number) |
| 19:36.59 | SoLoR | there is more... im lazy to pasty :) |
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| 19:37.16 | kagaro | well the normal handler uses the creator which is based on the mod... meaning each mod that creates a note type ala mining and herbalism would need to implment a filter setup. problem then is say you dont have herbalsim you coulndt filter out incoming herb notes or even hide them |
| 19:38.00 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r22334 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - check for non-table |
| 19:38.41 | kagaro | i could implment a filter using the setNote event, jsut makes it appear/dissappear by deleting it if the user didnt want a note of that type (cant hide it) or person (spamming crap notes) |
| 19:39.10 | SoLoR | seems to work now |
| 19:40.01 | ckknight | I'm not sure... |
| 19:40.11 | ckknight | good stuff, SoLoR |
| 19:40.14 | Mikma | ckknight: umm, sure wait a sex |
| 19:40.23 | Barbanus | how long is a sex? |
| 19:40.41 | Gnarfoz | depends |
| 19:40.44 | kenlyric|work | that all depends on you |
| 19:42.03 | Barbanus | no one replied with anything interesting (read: extremely perverted or a great insult), I'm disapointed :( |
| 19:42.45 | kagaro | ck: up to you events can do the trick, explicit handler would prevent more than 1 thing from trying change/modify/delte the note at once |
| 19:43.05 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22335 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/AddonMessages.lua): Prat: Message decompose/recompose semi-functional |
| 19:43.33 | ckknight | Barbanus: 4 hours. |
| 19:43.34 | Barbanus | sylvanaar, I read a commit message earlier about "converting modules" what are you converting to/from? |
| 19:43.46 | ckknight | if longer, see a doctor |
| 19:43.51 | Barbanus | haha |
| 19:44.27 | Barbanus | now that was witty |
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| 19:44.45 | kagaro | btw anyone know how to get ahold of damjau? |
| 19:44.49 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/Round.jpg |
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| 19:45.45 | DarkImakuni | nice UI mikky :) |
| 19:46.15 | Barbanus | Mikma, some weird overlapping with those textures |
| 19:46.43 | Elkano | to Prat team: if player isn't in a guild, he won't be cached with level/class automaticaly |
| 19:46.45 | Barbanus | Anyway to add more left/right padding to stop the text from floating over the rounded corners? |
| 19:46.46 | Antiarc | Does anyone know if you were to apply a texture to a frame with additive alpha blending, would it alpha blend with the scene? Or would it not blend at all, since there's nothing else on the frame to blend with? |
| 19:47.04 | Mimesis | hey tekkub: i had forgotten what you said were the best practices for bag addons and events, something about not registering them unless the frame is hidden? I was wondering what it was exactly so i could post it in arkinventory thread |
| 19:47.16 | Mikma | Barbanus: wa? how come? |
| 19:47.22 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: alpha blends with the scene, if I'm getting you right |
| 19:47.44 | Antiarc | Hm. I'll have to test it tonight. |
| 19:48.15 | DarkImakuni | what's oCB called now? |
| 19:48.24 | Gngsk | it wasn't renamed |
| 19:48.25 | Gngsk | fuxsake.net |
| 19:48.32 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 19:48.38 | Gngsk | no, seriously |
| 19:48.40 | Gngsk | go there |
| 19:48.53 | DarkImakuni | ok thanks |
| 19:49.03 | Barbanus | Mikma, hmm maybe it just needs a smaller font size, where it says "Chardok 1037/1037" the 1037 is floating out of the bar |
| 19:49.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Grrr. 20003 shows as Out of Date on live, and 20000 shows as Out of Date on beta. |
| 19:49.08 | Gngsk | nevcairiel, ping |
| 19:49.37 | haste | Gngsk: fuxsake and beverpung = ordering domains while drunk |
| 19:49.43 | Gngsk | lolz |
| 19:49.48 | DarkImakuni | best domains ever :D |
| 19:49.55 | Gngsk | beverpung suspended? |
| 19:50.00 | haste | shouldn't be? |
| 19:50.10 | haste | it isn't |
| 19:50.12 | Gngsk | http://beverpung.net/suspended.page/ |
| 19:50.24 | haste | I wiped it |
| 19:50.26 | Barbanus | Mikma, and on the mana bar, it just looks like the level is a little close to the left side of the bar edge ... (btw, I'm a web-UI perfectionist .. so if its good to you .. ignore me) |
| 19:50.27 | haste | which created that folder |
| 19:50.28 | Kirkburn | Question! Clicky: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Tekkub#Secure_code |
| 19:50.33 | Gngsk | omg, bring back the image |
| 19:50.35 | Gngsk | it was too good |
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| 19:51.15 | Gngsk | weab, yo |
| 19:51.20 | nevcairiel | Gngsk: pong |
| 19:51.28 | weab | howdy |
| 19:51.47 | Gngsk | nevcairiel, how do you feel about adding an option to hide bars while out of combat? |
| 19:52.02 | DarkImakuni | wow... I'm amazed that no-one's touched Visor2GUI... I must have done something right for once... o.O |
| 19:52.04 | Gngsk | weab, did you ever get a chance to look at the AD turn in gossip errors I reported? |
| 19:53.14 | nevcairiel | i havent thought about it, really |
| 19:53.15 | weab | sorry no, been busy |
| 19:53.18 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r22336 10XArt/XArt.toc: |
| 19:53.18 | CIA-17 | XArt: |
| 19:53.18 | CIA-17 | - fixed AceLibrary reference |
| 19:53.27 | Gngsk | weab, np, just curious |
| 19:53.50 | Gngsk | nevcairiel, I think it'd be pretty easy to implement and is quite useful |
| 19:54.12 | Barbanus | wtb somewhere to turn in these 100 tokens of each BG I have ..... |
| 19:54.25 | nevcairiel | buy items |
| 19:54.27 | Barbanus | And the 8 pages in my mail .... |
| 19:54.27 | nevcairiel | mounts or so |
| 19:54.28 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:54.40 | Barbanus | Yea, I guess thats all I can do :P |
| 19:54.41 | Gngsk | weab, I also had a suggestion for auto rez/summon with delay |
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| 19:55.06 | [VM]Ausome | Did the method to set hotkeys with Bartender3 change recently? I dont see it in the menu o_O |
| 19:55.51 | nevcairiel | Yes it did, You need to set them using the Blizzard Keybinding thingy |
| 19:55.58 | [VM]Ausome | ahh word |
| 19:55.59 | [VM]Ausome | ty |
| 19:56.06 | Barbanus | nevcairiel, oooo when did that change? |
| 19:56.24 | Gngsk | I was wondering about that too, any particular reason you took out the dewdrop stuff? |
| 19:56.25 | nevcairiel | yesterday |
| 19:56.26 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 19:56.29 | Barbanus | (good change IMO, no point in replicating where you set keybindings :) ) |
| 19:56.39 | Barbanus | nevcairiel awesome |
| 19:56.42 | snurre | how many times has the BT3 keybinding method been changed anyway? :p |
| 19:56.42 | nevcairiel | Gngsk: people are to stupid to use dewdrop |
| 19:56.47 | nevcairiel | i think 4 times |
| 19:56.48 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:56.52 | nevcairiel | but its staying this time! |
| 19:56.54 | nevcairiel | i swear |
| 19:56.55 | Gngsk | :\ |
| 19:56.57 | snurre | imo the problem with dewdrop is that you cant set two keybindings on a key |
| 19:56.58 | snurre | which sucks |
| 19:57.00 | Gngsk | I liked it :P |
| 19:57.06 | snurre | i much prefer the current way |
| 19:57.13 | weab | Gngsk: mind posting that and the ad issue to the forum? can't really look at it now |
| 19:57.14 | bladlus | Hm.. I just updated my Ace addons with the auto updater, and now my buttons doesn't show their hotkeys anymore. Using Bartender3. Does anyone know how to show them? (And yes, the "Hotkey" option is turned on on all bars)) |
| 19:57.14 | Gngsk | oh, alternate keybinding |
| 19:57.17 | snurre | having all keybindings in one place ftw |
| 19:57.20 | Gngsk | yea that makes sense |
| 19:57.27 | Gngsk | weab, sure will do |
| 19:57.31 | weab | thanks |
| 19:57.32 | Barbanus | I prefer using blizz's interface, it handles 2 binds to the same key, all in the same place, etc. |
| 19:57.52 | snurre | exactly, im glad it's back to using that again :p |
| 19:57.53 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: FWIW, I far, far, far, far, far prefer being able to set bindings from the context menu. |
| 19:57.58 | [VM]Ausome | Yeah the double binding is ownage |
| 19:58.09 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: adapt to the new way then |
| 19:58.21 | Antiarc | I have. Just casting a vote for my preference. :) |
| 19:58.26 | Barbanus | nevcairiel, did you find a way to add "smart names" to the bindings in blizz's interface like "bar 1, button 1"? (I'll check when I get home) |
| 19:58.56 | nevcairiel | sure they are named Bartender3 Bar X Button Y |
| 19:59.46 | Barbanus | nice :) |
| 19:59.46 | snurre | who's working on cyCircled bwt? |
| 19:59.46 | snurre | btw* |
| 19:59.46 | Yinchie | there is a other bar addon that allows double binding but it isn't Ace'd |
| 19:59.51 | kenlyric|work | I don't like it simply because if you need to disable the mod, you have to rebind all your keys again |
| 20:01.43 | Gngsk | snurre, sairen is the author |
| 20:01.46 | Gngsk | ~seen sairen |
| 20:02.05 | purl | sairen is currently on #wowi-lounge (10h 25m 28s) #wowace (10h 25m 28s), last said: '^^'. |
| 20:02.05 | Rewad | cd |
| 20:05.20 | CIA-17 | 03gnarfoz * r22337 10Cartographer_Opening/Cartographer_Opening.toc: Cartographer_Opening - .toc update |
| 20:05.45 | Nickenyfiken | hehe Opening? |
| 20:05.51 | vid` | yea |
| 20:05.56 | vid` | i noticed too the keybinds disappeared from BT3 |
| 20:05.59 | vid` | they used to be there |
| 20:05.59 | vid` | :\ |
| 20:06.04 | vid` | they still work |
| 20:06.14 | vid` | just the shortcuts are missing from display |
| 20:07.04 | Gnarfoz | Nickenyfiken: not mine, but it does the same as Herbalism and Mining do, for "opening" stuff like chests, power crystals and so on |
| 20:07.23 | Nickenyfiken | ah ok |
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| 20:08.02 | kergoth | Gnarfoz, nice |
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| 20:08.50 | Gnarfoz | as I said, not mine ^^ just updated the .toc because it only had koKR notes and no author listed (author seems to be damjau, one of the regular koKR translation commiters, at least his was the first import and only commit) |
| 20:09.02 | Nickenyfiken | well shouldt Mining/Herb/Opening be almost identical except the table with icons provided? |
| 20:09.16 | Gnarfoz | and the string it parses for, but basically, yes |
| 20:09.46 | Nickenyfiken | well i mean wouldnt it be possible to write a more general addon and feed it with different tables/strings then? |
| 20:10.00 | Nickenyfiken | depending on what your interested in |
| 20:10.03 | kagaro | I think opening should be called treasure instead .. is sounds wierd as opening |
| 20:10.12 | Gngsk | some things are still bugged and don't have any opening string on the castingbar |
| 20:10.26 | snurre | quite a few actually |
| 20:10.31 | kergoth | Nickenyfiken, no |
| 20:10.50 | Gnarfoz | Nickenyfiken: possible, yes, but I guess that would kind of destroy the current 'modularity' - I like not loading the mining part when I'm not a miner |
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| 20:11.36 | kagaro | im waiting for damjau to get back to me, i was 90% complete on a module that did the same thing, still in testing phaze on my end though |
| 20:11.39 | Znortfl | Hello Wowace people.. I have requested an SVN account and I got it, but when I enter the given name and password the client complains about a mismatch. I am quite a newbie here, what should I do? |
| 20:11.57 | Gnarfoz | check wether the name actually matches the email |
| 20:12.13 | Znortfl | done, I entered it three times |
| 20:12.22 | Znortfl | still a mismatch |
| 20:12.28 | Gnarfoz | hm :) |
| 20:12.35 | Nickenyfiken | yeah but when you look at mining and herb they have many functions that is identical except the names... i mean it could be nice for them to share as much code as possible... if possible |
| 20:12.45 | Gnarfoz | just telling, because my account name was lower case when I didn't expect it to :D |
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| 20:13.21 | kergoth | Nickenyfiken, i wrote those modules based on pinpoint's code, i decided against moving the common code into the cart profiessions module as it would destroy the generic nature of the module |
| 20:13.35 | Znortfl | kek, it wasnt a mismatch, the 0 was an O >< |
| 20:13.40 | Znortfl | stupid font |
| 20:13.41 | kergoth | professions is a cart module that simply loads LoD addons based on what professions you have |
| 20:14.14 | kergoth | you'd have to create another cart module to hold the common code between the gathering modules, and then that would end up being loaded even if mining/herbalism are not, so the benefit is debatable |
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| 20:14.29 | Znortfl | But now I have another error, valid UTF data but invalid UTF sequence |
| 20:14.29 | kergoth | particularly since its going to be extremely rare for both mining and herbalism to be loaded at hte same time |
| 20:14.38 | kagaro | kergoth: i wanted to do a little editing on mining and herbalism, thought i would talk to you first though |
| 20:14.45 | Nickenyfiken | ah yeah i understand what your saying |
| 20:15.04 | Nickenyfiken | i was thinking it would be easier to maintain too |
| 20:15.33 | kergoth | from a code maintainance standpoint, its ugly as is having such duplication, but i'd rather have more of a maintainance headache than complecate things in the code or leave things loaded all the time that dont need to be |
| 20:15.46 | kagaro | wanted to add a little statitics tracking to those modules |
| 20:15.49 | Nickenyfiken | like i saw ckk made a API change in Carto_notes and he had to hange stuff in both mining and herb in their identical functions |
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| 20:16.04 | Nickenyfiken | yeah ok |
| 20:16.06 | kergoth | kagaro, what sort of tracking? |
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| 20:16.23 | ckknight | blah, I can't get my mac to stay on when I close the lid |
| 20:16.27 | ckknight | :-{ |
| 20:16.38 | Znortfl | Could anybody help me out, the SVN client complains about an invalid UTF sequence, what should I do |
| 20:16.40 | kagaro | collection counts |
| 20:16.58 | kergoth | Nickenyfiken, naturally, one could share code via an embedded lib of somes ort, but thats even more needless complecation. if you can think of a way to accomplish the goal without issues, let me know, i'd be glad to make things better |
| 20:17.15 | ckknight | oh well |
| 20:17.17 | ckknight | cya all later |
| 20:17.44 | kergoth | kagaro, for how many of the item were in the node? you'll have to iterate over the items in the loot window, no? makes the code more complecated, but as long as its optional, i'm fine with it |
| 20:18.18 | Nickenyfiken | yeah well im just brainstorming |
| 20:18.25 | kergoth | anyone have a link to the framexml extractor for tbc offhand? |
| 20:18.36 | kergoth | ~listvalues addonkit |
| 20:18.57 | kergoth | ~framexml |
| 20:18.59 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 20:19.01 | kagaro | kergoth: i meant more along the line of zone["badlands"]["copper"] 42 events you get the event everytime you open the node anyways |
| 20:19.03 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 20:19.04 | purl | kergoth: aw, gee |
| 20:19.14 | kagaro | kergoth: not looking at the contents |
| 20:19.22 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: don't know if there are 'loot events', but it should be enough to watch the chat, it says how many of an item was looted |
| 20:19.29 | CIA-17 | 03dawn * r22338 10Diplomat/: Diplomat: Start Diplomat on Wowace |
| 20:19.32 | Thrae | Hey, I noticed $parent isn't used anymore in XML. Is it automatically added in 2.0? |
| 20:19.42 | kergoth | kagaro, i really dont see the point, you can iterate over the notes to determine how many of a given note are in a zone at any time |
| 20:19.47 | kagaro | gnarfoz: there is a loot event |
| 20:19.47 | kergoth | it neednt be part of _herbalism |
| 20:19.57 | kergoth | what exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
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| 20:20.27 | Dhraga | Evening all |
| 20:20.30 | nevcairiel | Hrm, Thrae: in my copy of the FrameXML export, its still used |
| 20:20.37 | kagaro | coverage tracking there may be 50 nodes of a ore in zone y, but if heavy competion would show you only hit them on avg 1 time each |
| 20:20.41 | Thrae | I'm trying to access the "MacroFrameText" frame, which is a child of the "MacroEditBox", which is a child of the "MacroFrame" frame. |
| 20:20.42 | CIA-17 | 03dawn * r22339 10Diplomat/ (17 files in 9 dirs): Diplomat: Start Diplomat on Wowace (2) |
| 20:20.47 | Dhraga | Guys, a question, where have oBC gone ? |
| 20:20.56 | Dhraga | *oCB |
| 20:20.59 | Antiarc | Does DoTradeSkill() require a hardware event to use? |
| 20:21.00 | Gngsk | Dhraga, fuxsake.net |
| 20:21.06 | kenlyric|work | oblivion |
| 20:21.09 | Antiarc | (I haven't tested it. Yay drycode.) |
| 20:21.16 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: if it does what I guess it does, then yes |
| 20:21.21 | kagaro | where in a smaller zone you colelcted 1k units cause noone around .. dont know if it is very useful info or not .. |
| 20:21.23 | Antiarc | Dhraga: It hasn't gone anywhere, as far as I know. |
| 20:21.31 | Gnarfoz | (that would be: start cooking, make a bandage, etc.) |
| 20:21.33 | Antiarc | Right. |
| 20:21.35 | CIA-17 | 03kameril * r22340 10BarAnnounce3/ (17 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:21.35 | CIA-17 | BarAnnounce3: initial commit |
| 20:21.35 | CIA-17 | -a core for modules based around statusbars |
| 20:21.42 | Antiarc | Well, phooey. Not a big deal, but annoying. |
| 20:21.53 | Thrae | Hmm, maybe it's because Blizzard_MacroUI is LoD. If you make an addon depend on a LoD addon, and make the dependant also LoD, will it load with the parent LoD addon? |
| 20:21.59 | Gnarfoz | broke all 'queue tradeskill action x, y and z' addons :\ |
| 20:22.06 | kergoth | Thrae, no, it will force the parent to load when it does |
| 20:22.09 | kergoth | you probably want LoadWith |
| 20:22.10 | kergoth | not a dep |
| 20:22.12 | kergoth | or both |
| 20:22.14 | Antiarc | When did that happen? And...why? |
| 20:22.24 | kenlyric|work | uh... 1.10 |
| 20:22.25 | Thrae | Yeah I just realized that. I'm rusty with my coding :D |
| 20:22.26 | kagaro | kergoth: its just a replication of some functionality that gather has |
| 20:22.28 | Antiarc | I'm working on my first tradeskill-involved addon, so I haven't really looked into it before now ;) |
| 20:22.34 | Dhraga | Gngsk, thanks. Antiarc, there are no Otravi addons on the files server from what I can see |
| 20:22.55 | kenlyric|work | in fact, the warning in Advanced Tradeskill Window tells you it was 1.10 that broke the autoqueue ability :) |
| 20:23.00 | Thrae | LoadWith loads before or after? |
| 20:23.11 | kergoth | loadwith loads after the item you're loading with |
| 20:23.11 | Antiarc | I don't think the Files page is showing addons that start with a lowercase letter. |
| 20:23.12 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/files/oCB/ |
| 20:23.15 | Gnarfoz | ATSW still rocks, though |
| 20:23.17 | Antiarc | But the dirs are there. |
| 20:23.24 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.36 | Dhraga | Ah thanks |
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| 20:23.45 | Nickenyfiken | ATSW rocks except it's so damn slow |
| 20:24.00 | kenlyric|work | I don't have tradeskills now, so I don't need it. |
| 20:24.06 | Antiarc | Poisons. :) |
| 20:24.09 | Dhraga | Antiarc, but then it's not listed in the WAU either :( |
| 20:24.15 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 20:24.17 | kergoth | kagaro, suggestion.. the cart mining/herb modules call Cartographer_Notes:SetNote() every time you gather a given node. it wouldnt be hard to hook that and thereby track how many times you've re-added a note near the same location of the same type. |
| 20:24.21 | Antiarc | Needs to be fixed, I 'spose |
| 20:24.29 | kergoth | kagaro, then itd be a generic note "activity" cart module |
| 20:24.36 | kergoth | rather than hardcoded functionality within the herb/mining modules |
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| 20:24.54 | kenlyric|work | Dhraga: oCB and oCD were both removed. The directories might still be there, but they are no longer built/updated through svn. |
| 20:25.08 | CIA-17 | 03kameril * r22341 10BarAnnounce3/: |
| 20:25.08 | CIA-17 | BarAnnounce3: |
| 20:25.08 | CIA-17 | -added externals |
| 20:25.10 | Dhraga | Kenlyric thanks |
| 20:25.59 | Gngsk | haste needs to think of a reason to make an addon call oSnap |
| 20:26.05 | odt | hmm, Antiarc is right |
| 20:26.10 | odt | oCB is not listed anymore |
| 20:26.20 | odt | but ag_UnitFrames still is |
| 20:26.30 | kenlyric|work | so then antiarc isn't right. |
| 20:26.31 | Nickenyfiken | why wouldnt it=? |
| 20:26.34 | odt | so it's not a generic problem with lowercase |
| 20:26.37 | kenlyric|work | maybe you people should listen to me. |
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| 20:26.47 | odt | oh |
| 20:26.57 | odt | sry, i'm a little confused since my dog bit me |
| 20:27.04 | kenlyric|work | <--- never lies, unless I tell a paladin I will heal him. |
| 20:27.07 | Health | kill the dog |
| 20:27.09 | Gngsk | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3707.0 |
| 20:27.14 | kenlyric|work | you got the cujo rabies? |
| 20:27.25 | odt | Health: i would, but it's technically now the dog of my parents-in-law |
| 20:27.37 | Health | kill the parents |
| 20:27.47 | odt | nah, they are rich |
| 20:27.56 | odt | and i doubt i'm on their will |
| 20:28.08 | Gnarfoz | wait until you are, then |
| 20:28.18 | odt | i will |
| 20:28.57 | Thrae | Well that hack causes my character to instantly disconnect, haha |
| 20:29.14 | CIA-17 | 03kameril * r22342 10BarAnnounce3/ (. BarAnnounce3.toc): BarAnnounce3:- svn keywords |
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| 20:30.23 | Rewad | hi all, i have an question about tables: two tables, e.g table1={} and table2={}, i set table1=table2, the tables are now associative, this means, if i change somting in table1 it change automatical in table2, right? |
| 20:30.44 | Nickenyfiken | kergoth: is there a reason that Cartographer_Herbalism use self:ScheduleEvent("CartographerHerbalism_RefreshMap", Cartographer_Notes.RefreshMap, 0, Cartographer_Notes) instead of Cartographer_Notes:RefreshMap()? (just curous) |
| 20:31.04 | kergoth | no, it means the local table1 now refers to table2, the old table you created in table1 now has no references, and will be gc'd. there's now only one table, which both locals reference. |
| 20:31.11 | ZealotOnAStick | I believe so. I think when you set table1 equal to table2, you've essentially just made 1 table with 2 referents |
| 20:31.35 | Antiarc | Rewad: Yes. "=" is a reference assignment, not a value assignment. |
| 20:31.46 | kergoth | his question implied that the two tables were still around, he misunderstands what a variable is, in lua |
| 20:32.02 | Rewad | ? |
| 20:32.04 | kergoth | a var is a container, a means of referencing. its the value that matters |
| 20:32.48 | kagaro | kergoth: I was thinking about it while I was in the break room, yeah that was my thought. Im already hooking SetNote event cart main fires for note sharing. |
| 20:33.02 | Thrae | What's the approx. string limit again? |
| 20:34.12 | kergoth | damn addonkit cant find my wow, despite having run it, and thereby having the reg entries |
| 20:34.17 | kergoth | it must be relying on the uninstall reg entry instead |
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| 20:35.00 | Dhraga | ~who damjau |
| 20:35.18 | Dhraga | ~seen damjau |
| 20:35.22 | purl | damjau <i=________@58.77.154.21> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 58d 13h 50m 3s ago, saying: 'sorry... TT'. |
| 20:35.41 | Gngsk | that's not very encouraging |
| 20:35.54 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:35.57 | Antiarc | Rewad: http://ace.pastey.net/4059 |
| 20:36.05 | Dhraga | Just read about damjau's editing of Haste oCB = |
| 20:36.09 | Dhraga | =( |
| 20:36.26 | evl | I understand the man |
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| 20:37.26 | Dhraga | Agree, though it should be some way to get around it, allowing the authors to flag a contributer to be able to submitt |
| 20:38.06 | Antiarc | Eh. Convention dictates that you don't touch someone else's trunk without their permission. |
| 20:38.16 | Antiarc | Even if you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. |
| 20:38.23 | odt | indeed |
| 20:38.24 | Rewad | thanks antiarc 4 link :) |
| 20:38.27 | Dhraga | Aye, but apperently some arnt reading it |
| 20:38.31 | odt | that's what branches are for |
| 20:39.02 | Xogxog | Dhraga, read where? |
| 20:39.14 | kergoth | Antiarc, i think most authors are fine with commits in their code which are bugfixes or translations |
| 20:39.18 | Dhraga | What anitarc asid |
| 20:39.21 | kergoth | Antiarc, major feature adds, however, are something else entirely |
| 20:39.22 | Dhraga | *said |
| 20:39.42 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 20:39.44 | nevcairiel | read there ^ |
| 20:39.45 | Antiarc | Translations, definitely. Bugfixes I tend to prefer to have control over. |
| 20:40.17 | Kirkburn | *cough* that was just added *cough* .... btu it should have been obvious before |
| 20:40.21 | kergoth | i dont see why. its svn, you can easily revert if it wasnt implemented to your liking, and it isnt likely invasive enough to cause problematic merges |
| 20:40.38 | Antiarc | Sure, you can revert easily enough. It's just an annoyance. |
| 20:40.41 | kergoth | whereas the features would almost certainly conflict with whatever you're working on locally |
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| 20:41.35 | Dhraga | I think the revisions that will be listed in the WAU should only be of the author or by coders that have gotten permission from the author to edit |
| 20:42.19 | Antiarc | That's not terribly easy to pull off, on a technical level, if you allow anyone with access to commit. |
| 20:42.22 | Kirkburn | Tough to set up, and restrictive |
| 20:42.46 | Gngsk | more like you should come to irc or post on the forum before you commit |
| 20:42.50 | Dhraga | Mmm |
| 20:42.50 | Gngsk | or, send a diff to the author |
| 20:42.54 | Kirkburn | Say you found a critical bug in something and the author was not around, *someone* needs to fix it |
| 20:43.35 | CIA-17 | 03nirek * r22343 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: more localization fixes |
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| 20:44.03 | Antiarc | If a missed comma was destroying inventories and the author could not be contacted, then yeah, I'd make an unpermissioned commit in a heartbeat, with a note explicitly noting the nature of the change and that attempts had been made to contact the author before the change was committed. |
| 20:44.05 | Dhraga | Kirk, yes true I understand but i'd rather see that fix goes into another branch |
| 20:44.10 | Kirkburn | (i.e. I'm saying restrictive editing should be opt-in not opt-out) |
| 20:44.18 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22344 10Prat/Prat/ (Prat.lua modules/PopupMessage.lua): Prat: further refinements to the chat splitter |
| 20:44.24 | Antiarc | That's a bit different than taking de facto ownership of some piece of someone else's project by modifying it without their permission. |
| 20:44.28 | kergoth | indeed, kirkburn. in addition, making everyone send diffs for a _bugfix_ is just going to discourage people from helping you with your code, which is bad |
| 20:44.40 | Kirkburn | Antiarc, oh certainly |
| 20:44.41 | kergoth | unless you really want to do it all yourself, in which case, by all means |
| 20:45.01 | sylvanaar | no kidding, i hate submitting diffs |
| 20:45.08 | Antiarc | I hate submitting diffs, as well. |
| 20:45.11 | Kirkburn | Since I only control one small addon, I don't have a problem with edits of it as it's easy to control, but I can understand the problem for others |
| 20:45.51 | sylvanaar | its easier to branch usually |
| 20:45.59 | kergoth | branching for a bugfix is silly imo |
| 20:46.03 | kergoth | features, yes |
| 20:46.08 | vid` | http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/suzuki/SXBox_cockpit.jpg |
| 20:46.44 | Kirkburn | wow |
| 20:46.53 | Sole | o_O |
| 20:46.59 | vid` | lol |
| 20:47.03 | Kirkburn | Monitor? |
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| 20:48.01 | vid` | The SXBox is equipped with a dashboard-integrated Xbox 360 video game system, coupled with a close proximity digital projection system to display games or watch a HD DVD movie on the interior of the vehicle's retractable hood, which can be enabled by the push of a button. |
| 20:48.05 | Antiarc | What would be really ideal is if people started using Trac heavily. |
| 20:48.25 | sylvanaar | imo thats what source control is for, and development in an open environment means you are agreeable to others modifying your code |
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| 20:49.11 | Antiarc | I guess that on an idealistic level, I'd like people to attempt to contact me before committing code changes. |
| 20:49.48 | kagaro | thats why I ask before I make a significant change |
| 20:49.49 | kergoth | all that does is impose unnecessary overhead for bugfixes, discouraging other developers |
| 20:49.56 | kergoth | a feature, yes, a bugfix, no |
| 20:50.10 | sylvanaar | yeah, cause if the bug isnt getting fixed, most likely the guy isnt there to ask |
| 20:50.19 | Kirkburn | Is one of the SVN mirrors behind? |
| 20:51.01 | Antiarc | For example, I had someone submit a diff for Sanity the other day that changed how items are written to SVs. It drastically expanded the amount of data, with the aim that it could be parsed for uploading to a guild bank page. The patch was pretty small, but it ran very opposite of the direction I've taken with Sanity's storage system - I've bent over backwards to ensure that I'm writing as little data to the SVs as possible. |
| 20:51.04 | Antiarc | If that change had been committed, then I'd have to go yank it out - not because it was poorly implemented or anything, but because the design was contrary to my own design for the project. |
| 20:51.11 | kergoth | if you really want people to contact you before checking anything in, just run a private svn and let them send you diffs, dont use wowace svn at all. |
| 20:51.20 | Antiarc | However, the author contacted me about it and I said as much, which was fine. |
| 20:51.24 | kergoth | Antiarc, and that isnt a bugfix, now is it? |
| 20:51.44 | Antiarc | Well, it depends on how you look at it. Some might consider it a bug that you can't parse the SV for guild bank data ;) |
| 20:51.44 | Hjalte | Warlocks, what addons are you using to summon pets and people and to keep count on soul shards and the like? |
| 20:51.54 | Antiarc | But no, not really. |
| 20:52.07 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, where is this Prat you're commiting to? |
| 20:52.11 | kergoth | i'll reword |
| 20:52.19 | Gngsk | Kirkburn, branches |
| 20:52.19 | sylvanaar | sylvanaar branch |
| 20:52.22 | kergoth | where i say feature, i mean code functionality change. |
| 20:52.32 | Antiarc | From the submitter's point of view, it was a cut-and-dried improvement - an extension of an existing feature, rather than a new feature. |
| 20:52.34 | Kirkburn | I'll look up info before I ask more :) |
| 20:52.36 | kergoth | in most cases, a bugfix wont change existing functionality, unless it requires rearchitecture |
| 20:53.24 | CIA-17 | 03dawn * r22345 10Diplomat/Core.lua: Diplomat: Added BindList() function |
| 20:53.39 | kergoth | last.fm just went from playing music from The Eagles, to marilyn manson |
| 20:54.23 | syeren | Manson owns, that's why. |
| 20:54.34 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, k, so what is the branches version? Whatcha doin;? |
| 20:54.53 | kergoth | i like some manson stuff, but jesus, itd be nice if it was a bit more gradual in the genre transitions :P |
| 20:55.22 | Rewad | second question about table: how to copy everything in table1 to table2 with no references like table1=table2 does? |
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| 20:55.39 | haste | kergoth: I know what you mean, for me it jumps between japanese jazz to norwegian black metal |
| 20:55.54 | Kirkburn | kergoth, so what like ... Great, not so great, shit ... rather than skipping out the middle? |
| 20:56.10 | syeren | Anyone know of any cool modules for the G15? |
| 20:56.14 | haste | I don't even dare listening to the other stations |
| 20:56.15 | sylvanaar | if you want an overview check out prat.lua - but, first im making the modules register with Prat, and injecting common options. It provides a base for further organization. |
| 20:56.30 | Gngsk | is there a mod that makes ItemRack use the DreamLayout? |
| 20:56.31 | Kirkburn | Sounds cool |
| 20:56.34 | kergoth | i still want to design a learning system for managing Mood in addition to genre, so i can tell my player i'm in a dark mood and itll cross as many genres as it likes within that mood |
| 20:56.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:56.52 | syeren | Like Bill Gate's house |
| 20:56.53 | syeren | ? |
| 20:58.17 | Antiarc | Rewad: for k,v in pairs(table1) do table2[k] = v end |
| 20:58.22 | Kirkburn | Can I ask someone do a little thing for me ... delete ClearFont from branches, and only BRANCHES :) |
| 20:58.24 | sylvanaar | second, the experimental part - im trying to reduce the amount of parsing that is done on the chat lines, and the resulting complexity resulting from changes to the chat text |
| 20:58.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Gngsk - not sure on DreamLayout, but cyCircled works with ItemRack. |
| 20:58.36 | Antiarc | Kirkburn: svn del not working for you? |
| 20:58.45 | Kirkburn | Wouldn't know how =) |
| 20:58.48 | Gngsk | ZealotOnAStick, yea I know but cyCircled doesn't do DreamLayout :( |
| 20:59.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. Shouldn't really be too hard a thing to hack something into being for that, then. |
| 21:00.32 | sylvanaar | clearfont2? |
| 21:00.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Woohoo! |
| 21:00.41 | ZealotOnAStick | I have basic functionality working now. |
| 21:00.55 | Kirkburn | Branches: ClearFont2/ ClearFont2_Design/ ClearFont2_Pack_1/ |
| 21:01.13 | Kirkburn | All three can go |
| 21:01.19 | CrisCrOss | did u guys know server transfers are free? |
| 21:01.20 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22346 10/branches/ClearFont2/: Removed file/folder |
| 21:01.40 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22347 10/branches/ClearFont2_Design/: Removed file/folder |
| 21:01.52 | Sole | hmm wtf |
| 21:01.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Abwhuh? |
| 21:01.56 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r22348 10/branches/ClearFont2_Pack_1/: Removed file/folder |
| 21:02.04 | ZealotOnAStick | How so, CrisCrOss? |
| 21:02.04 | Kirkburn | Thanks :) |
| 21:02.06 | sylvanaar | sure |
| 21:02.15 | snurre | The beast returns to whence it came. The wrath of Neptulon has subsided. |
| 21:02.17 | snurre | wtf does that mean |
| 21:02.23 | Gnarfoz | it means |
| 21:02.34 | Gnarfoz | someone did part of the AQ quest line |
| 21:02.41 | Sole | a bit late lol |
| 21:02.43 | CrisCrOss | Im looking att he site |
| 21:02.43 | CrisCrOss | now |
| 21:02.46 | Gnarfoz | that one is the final part of the blue line |
| 21:02.49 | *** join/#wowace Mahiro (n=Miranda@146.171.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 21:02.49 | Sole | unless its a new server |
| 21:02.49 | CrisCrOss | The free character move is NOT immediate. After you choose your realm, your character will enter the queue to be moved. Your character will NOT be available for play during this time. |
| 21:02.51 | *** part/#wowace Mahiro (n=Miranda@146.171.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 21:03.08 | Gnarfoz | either a new server, or someone wants the quest rewards |
| 21:03.24 | Gnarfoz | like the band of icy depths (massive +FrR), e.g. |
| 21:03.33 | snurre | ah, Maws |
| 21:03.45 | Sole | hmm |
| 21:04.02 | Antiarc | CrisCrOss: Only from specific realms to specific realms, I suspect. |
| 21:04.10 | CrisCrOss | ye thats what it looks like |
| 21:04.16 | Antiarc | They set up "exodus" transfers occassionally to lighten the load on overloaded servers. |
| 21:04.28 | Sole | so if I try to SetScript("OnClick", function() blah end) on a frame which doesnt have an OnClick handler then I get an error |
| 21:04.50 | CrisCrOss | o ya right... |
| 21:05.17 | Kameril | if frame:HasScript("OnClick") then |
| 21:05.17 | Sole | ugh that sucks :( |
| 21:05.40 | Sole | I know it doesnt have an OnClick though |
| 21:05.47 | Sole | its a blizz frame |
| 21:05.54 | Kameril | then why call it? =P |
| 21:06.02 | kergoth | Sole, have you done an enablemouse on it? iirc it errors if you try to set scripts that wont be used anyway given the current state of it |
| 21:06.12 | Sole | ahh |
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| 21:06.30 | Sole | yea it has enablemouse |
| 21:06.50 | CIA-17 | 03dawn * r22349 10Diplomat/Diplomat.toc: Diplomat: Updated TOC |
| 21:06.58 | kergoth | also, isnt OnClick a button thing? is it a button? |
| 21:07.23 | Sole | tis not |
| 21:08.03 | nevcairiel | only buttons can have an OnClick |
| 21:08.07 | nevcairiel | Button and CheckButton |
| 21:08.09 | Sole | damn :( |
| 21:08.11 | nevcairiel | and all other frames will error |
| 21:08.18 | Sole | is there any way to override blizz xml? |
| 21:08.27 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:08.39 | Sole | Im trying to set this up so a user can click on the column headings on the BG scoreboard |
| 21:08.41 | kergoth | if it isnt a button, it has no onclick. use onmousedown/onmouseup or whatever |
| 21:09.00 | Antiarc | Sole: Create buttons with no textures and layer them over the Blizzard headers |
| 21:09.06 | Antiarc | So they're invisible, but intercept clicks. |
| 21:09.11 | CIA-17 | 03kameril * r22350 10BarAnnounce3/ModulePrototype.lua: BarAnnounce3:-more svn keywords |
| 21:09.28 | CIA-17 | 03dawn * r22351 10Diplomat/Diplomat.toc: Diplomat: Even better TOC |
| 21:09.45 | yacoob | Trashoob is not amused! |
| 21:09.48 | kergoth | good idea |
| 21:10.13 | Sole | Ill try OnMouseUp first, then if it that doesnt fly Ill go with Antiarc's idea |
| 21:10.17 | yacoob | ...just watched next episode of Dr Who. What is the meaning of this mockery? |
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| 21:10.30 | Antiarc | Sole: Frames can't intercept mouse events |
| 21:10.35 | Antiarc | So OnMouseUp isn't going to work |
| 21:10.53 | Antiarc | As far as mouse events go, frames are "invisible", IIRC. |
| 21:11.09 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 21:11.12 | kergoth | hm? |
| 21:11.14 | nevcairiel | you can call EnableMouse on them |
| 21:11.17 | kergoth | you can click on frames fine. yea |
| 21:11.19 | nevcairiel | so you can drag them around |
| 21:11.25 | Antiarc | Oh, duh. *headdesk* |
| 21:11.26 | CIA-17 | 03dawn * r22352 10Diplomat/Diplomat.toc: Diplomat: Hopefully last time |
| 21:11.29 | Antiarc | I knew that. >_> |
| 21:11.33 | kergoth | did you think every frame people unlock was a button? :P |
| 21:11.40 | kergoth | ~fishslap Antiarc |
| 21:11.41 | purl | ACTION slaps Antiarc up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:11.41 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:11.47 | Antiarc | I deserved that. :P |
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| 21:12.27 | CIA-17 | 03kameril * r22353 10BarAnnounce3/ModulePrototype.lua: BarAnnounce3:-revision keyword works better as a string.. |
| 21:12.37 | Sole | awesome it works kergoth |
| 21:13.04 | Gngsk | well, I've got most the stuff done to make Dreamlayout work with ItemRack and AutoRack, all I need to do now is setup resizing of the background and an option for padd |
| 21:15.25 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22354 10Prat/Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Reduced size of chat splitter table dumps |
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| 21:18.11 | Arrowmaster | yacoob: the christmas special? yeah i thought it sucked too |
| 21:18.59 | CIA-17 | 03dawn * r22355 10Diplomat/Diplomat.toc: Diplomat: Version number added |
| 21:19.19 | ZealotOnAStick | yacoob - which next episode? |
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| 21:21.20 | yacoob | ZealotOnAStick, Christmas special. |
| 21:21.29 | yacoob | I want Eccleston back! |
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| 21:23.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh. The Sycorax invasion? |
| 21:23.41 | yacoob | Yeah. It hads it moments, but it wasn't that good. |
| 21:24.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, that was last year's Christmas special in the UK, we got it a year late, after seeing the 2nd season of Dr. Who, which takes place after that special. |
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| 21:24.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm waiting for Season 3 to start so I can start downloading and watching it. |
| 21:24.26 | yacoob | ZealotOnAStick, really? Where was it aired first then? |
| 21:25.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Season 2 was already airing in the UK before they'd finished Season 1 on Sci-fi here. |
| 21:25.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Christmas 05 was when the Sycorax invasion first aired, in the UK. It even had some sort of interactive dealy. |
| 21:26.12 | ZealotOnAStick | and it was between season (or Series, as the brits call it) 1 and 2. |
| 21:26.31 | Makk | how do you fix it so that a statusbar changes colors depending on it's value? let's say max value is 1 and min is 0 |
| 21:26.41 | Makk | if the value is 0.5, it's yellow |
| 21:26.45 | Makk | 0, it's red |
| 21:26.49 | Makk | and 1, it's green |
| 21:26.53 | yacoob | *scrap*scrap* complicated |
| 21:27.18 | yacoob | well, I'll give 2x01 a shot, but I'm rather disappointed. |
| 21:27.20 | CIA-17 | 03antiarc * r22356 10TableTopLib/ (Libs/ TableTopLib.toc): TableTopLib: Added missing DewdropLib dependency |
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| 21:28.37 | Nickenyfiken | Henge == weird |
| 21:28.46 | Mikma | BarAnnounce3 .. |
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| 21:29.29 | Gngsk | Mikma, what's it do? |
| 21:30.18 | phyber | is there a way to get item information from the items in the InspectFrame? |
| 21:30.35 | phyber | like GetInventorySlotInfo() does for the CharacterFrame |
| 21:30.47 | Antiarc | GetInventoryItemInfo("target", <slot number>) I think? |
| 21:31.15 | Antiarc | Sorry, GetInventoryItemLink(), which you can pass to GetItemInfo() |
| 21:32.06 | vid` | http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos/1/wm/289a31fd-1057-4383-991e-0f085d4469b4.htm |
| 21:32.09 | vid` | sick ^^ |
| 21:32.55 | phyber | I think I'm going to have to tooltip scan |
| 21:33.09 | yacoob | this sounded very startrekish |
| 21:34.27 | Sole | Makk: I guess you could use AceEvent schedules |
| 21:34.35 | Makk | hmm? |
| 21:35.28 | Sole | Makk: - Start Bar - self:ScheduleEvent(StatusBar:SetColor(r, g, b), 0.5), something like that anyway |
| 21:35.45 | Sole | check the AceEvent wiki page for specifics |
| 21:35.55 | Makk | thanks |
| 21:35.58 | Mikma | Gngsk: no idea |
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| 21:37.03 | Gngsk | http://ctscreens.net/2836 |
| 21:40.43 | phyber | anyone know what string I should be searching for to grab the item link from the top of a tooltip? |
| 21:41.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmmm. |
| 21:41.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Why isn't my bloody localization working? |
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| 21:41.22 | phyber | need the string to shove it through deformat() :) |
| 21:42.02 | Antiarc | phyber: I don't think you can get item links from the top of a tooltip - it's just colored text. |
| 21:42.19 | phyber | colour is good then, I just need to know the item qualiryt |
| 21:42.21 | phyber | quality |
| 21:42.25 | kergoth | anyone recall the rgb of the shaman class color in 1.12, before they changed it? |
| 21:42.36 | phyber | kergoth: same as paladin? |
| 21:42.45 | nymbia | phyber: * NEW: name, link = Tooltip:GetItem() |
| 21:42.50 | kergoth | ah was it? didnt realize that was why it changed |
| 21:42.51 | nymbia | phyber: in 2.0.2 |
| 21:43.04 | phyber | myI need it in 2.0.1 ;) but that will be useful :) |
| 21:43.12 | snurre | kergoth: same as the current paladin |
| 21:43.25 | snurre | *slow* |
| 21:43.46 | Antiarc | I have an example, phyber, one sec |
| 21:43.55 | phyber | basically, what I'm doing is making Fizzle colour the slots when you inspect someone. |
| 21:44.12 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Sanity2/SanityMailbox.lua?order=name |
| 21:44.15 | phyber | everything works now, so I just need to know the qualities to actually make it look nice :p |
| 21:44.28 | snurre | hm, fizzle = inspect addon? |
| 21:44.44 | Antiarc | If you just want the color, then just GetTextColor() from the link and use it as your frame's color. No quality lookups needed. |
| 21:45.02 | Antiarc | r,g,b = GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetTextColor() |
| 21:45.14 | phyber | snurre: it shows duability and item quality in the character frame. |
| 21:45.28 | phyber | snurre: but I'm adding a new module to it to show item quality when you inspect someone too. |
| 21:45.28 | snurre | hm, k |
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| 21:45.57 | Kemayo | ...anyone know whether +damage/healing applies to warrior abilities? |
| 21:46.35 | snurre | btw, anyone know if haste is planning on making a complete skin with the layout of the new oPoison thingy? |
| 21:46.42 | Antiarc | Kemayo: Like what? |
| 21:46.49 | haste | snurre: complete skin? |
| 21:46.54 | Antiarc | Like, +heal affecting Second Wind? |
| 21:47.02 | snurre | the grey/orange thingy |
| 21:47.06 | snurre | for skinner or something |
| 21:47.17 | haste | Skinner can yiff in hell |
| 21:47.19 | Antiarc | I rather doubt it, personally. If it does, it's likely an oversight and they'll fix it - for example, the Heroism card used to benefit from +heal, and then they changed it. |
| 21:47.22 | snurre | ./cry |
| 21:47.33 | haste | I will use it for my own add ons, that's about it |
| 21:47.42 | snurre | wtb that for all windows |
| 21:47.53 | Antiarc | And rogue poisons don't benefit from +nature. I want it to so I can steal druid loot and make them cry in retribution for every piece of stolen Shadowcraft ever. |
| 21:47.55 | haste | that's quite a lot of work |
| 21:48.10 | snurre | you're up for it, aren't you? c'mon! :p |
| 21:48.31 | haste | no, jncl killed all my motivation to completly redo the default UI looks |
| 21:48.41 | sylvanaar | can someone answer a simple ace-oo question |
| 21:48.47 | snurre | oh? |
| 21:48.57 | Kemayo | Antiarc: Like affecting Thunder Clap, or the heal-after-crit talent... |
| 21:49.05 | Antiarc | Kemayo: I don't believe so. |
| 21:50.05 | Sole | haste, what did jncl do? |
| 21:50.28 | haste | destroy the oSkin draft pretty much |
| 21:51.02 | Sole | as in, attempt the skin almost every frame ever created in existence? |
| 21:51.18 | Sole | attemp to skin* |
| 21:51.30 | sylvanaar | ace-oo: do i have to call the prototype methods explicitly if i define them in my object? is there another way thats prefered style-wise |
| 21:51.41 | haste | hopefully he has read programming in lua now |
| 21:51.57 | haste | I'll stop my comments about it there |
| 21:52.41 | Mimesis | is there something wrong with skinner? |
| 21:52.59 | kergoth | dont get him started |
| 21:53.02 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 21:53.05 | Antiarc | heh |
| 21:53.13 | nevcairiel | how true |
| 21:53.14 | Grine | toob ad you decided not to do it haste :( |
| 21:53.15 | Mimesis | im curious |
| 21:53.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here? http://ace.pastey.net/4068 |
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| 21:54.29 | Sole | hmm |
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| 21:54.36 | nevcairiel | are you sure the enUS file is loaded? |
| 21:54.51 | Ominous | what am i doing wrong? http://ace.pastey.net/4069 |
| 21:54.58 | Ominous | that happens when i disable the module |
| 21:55.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. Does it need to be specified in the .toc? |
| 21:55.15 | haste | yes |
| 21:55.16 | Sole | yeah |
| 21:55.21 | el_oh | can someone link to the standalone libraries? |
| 21:55.25 | Sole | how else will it be loaded? :P |
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| 21:55.32 | haste | another addon! |
| 21:55.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. Now I feel teh stupidz. |
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| 21:55.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 21:55.49 | nevcairiel | where was that whale |
| 21:55.53 | nevcairiel | ~whaleslap ZealotOnAStick |
| 21:55.54 | purl | ACTION beats ZealotOnAStick upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:55.54 | el_oh | ? |
| 21:56.17 | Sole | the best part of the whaleslaps are the names |
| 21:56.21 | phyber | 2145.02 < Antiarc> r,g,b = GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetTextColor() |
| 21:56.25 | Sole | ~whaleslap ZealotOnAStick |
| 21:56.27 | purl | ACTION beats ZealotOnAStick upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:56.32 | Sole | aww |
| 21:56.32 | phyber | Antiarc: ok, but how do I loop through the tooltips? |
| 21:56.34 | Sole | same one :( |
| 21:56.40 | kergoth | ~herring ZealotOnAStick |
| 21:56.41 | purl | ACTION whacks ZealotOnAStick on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 21:57.13 | Antiarc | Wait, you just need the quality from the slot when you open the frame, not when you hover over the slot, right? |
| 21:57.37 | phyber | Antiarc: when the frame opens, I need to loop over all of the slots, grabbing the colour of the item from the tooltip |
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| 21:58.05 | Antiarc | GetInventoryItemQuality("target", <slot number>) |
| 21:58.14 | Antiarc | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInventoryItemQuality |
| 21:58.30 | phyber | that works with inspect frames? |
| 21:58.54 | phyber | hmm, wait. I'm going about it the wrong way. |
| 21:59.00 | phyber | right, now it makes sense. |
| 21:59.04 | mjc_ | ~whalecrit ZealotOnAStick |
| 21:59.05 | purl | ACTION crits ZealotOnAStick with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. ZealotOnAStick dies |
| 21:59.07 | Nickenyfiken | or you working on a inspect mod? |
| 21:59.08 | mjc_ | hey kergoth. how goes |
| 21:59.25 | phyber | Nickenyfiken: making fizzle colour the slots of the person you inspect. |
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| 22:00.17 | kergoth | soso, been kinda down lately, probably just the holidays |
| 22:00.36 | kergoth | then my dog pissed on my bed while i was laying it, getting my leg too |
| 22:00.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. Does order of the files listed in the lua matter? Do the localizations have to be before the main lua? |
| 22:00.45 | hanzzon | hmm, was there meant to be a newer version of FuBar on wowinterface? changedate shows today but no newer file than a couple days ago? |
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| 22:01.25 | Nickenyfiken | phyber: ah ok |
| 22:04.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. Apparently, it does. |
| 22:04.19 | ZealotOnAStick | switching the enUS to load before the main lua made the error go away. |
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| 22:05.53 | ZealotOnAStick | How do I go about merging an addon from branch to trunk? |
| 22:06.06 | kergoth | with the svn "merge" command, shockingly enough |
| 22:06.09 | kergoth | see the svn book |
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| 22:09.07 | Barbanus | MrPlow + OneB* = best mods ever |
| 22:09.44 | phyber | make this shit easy, fuckers. |
| 22:11.33 | Barbanus | phyber, make what easy? |
| 22:13.25 | KarlThePagan | does anyone here wish that they could use Blizzard LFG (assuming it worked perfectly) when they were in a party? |
| 22:13.42 | axxo | yes |
| 22:13.52 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r22357 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua Fizzle.toc Inspect.lua Libs/): |
| 22:13.52 | CIA-17 | Fizzle: |
| 22:13.52 | CIA-17 | - Core.lua: tidied up the border creation. made it a neat function instead of duplicating code. |
| 22:13.52 | CIA-17 | - TOC: Added Inspect.lua and AceModuleCore-2.0. |
| 22:13.52 | CIA-17 | - Inspect.lua: New module, colours the borders of your targets equipment in the inspect frame. Does not work yet. |
| 22:14.11 | KarlThePagan | I'm poking around in the LFGFramel.lua/xml and thinking about hacking up a FuBar plugin for it |
| 22:14.13 | Barbanus | KarlThePagan, I always wondered if there was anyway you can extend it... |
| 22:14.24 | KarlThePagan | yes it certainly looks like you can |
| 22:14.31 | axxo | the lfg system needs MAJOR help |
| 22:14.37 | KarlThePagan | seriously |
| 22:14.41 | axxo | its such a quick hack, annoying to use |
| 22:14.49 | KarlThePagan | CTA worked 10x better than it |
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| 22:15.10 | yacoob | axxo, what do you mean? |
| 22:15.18 | KarlThePagan | it has the feel of a UI made by comittee |
| 22:15.25 | yacoob | by collective! |
| 22:15.53 | KarlThePagan | too many chefs spoil the soup |
| 22:15.59 | Barbanus | KarlThePagan, yea |
| 22:16.02 | Barbanus | It sure does |
| 22:16.14 | Nickenyfiken | well blizzard made one thing right and that was a interface to find groups/more... too bad it sucks |
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| 22:16.29 | axxo | on my realm the lookingforgroup channel is huge |
| 22:16.39 | axxo | everyone uses that |
| 22:16.42 | Barbanus | Wonder if you can make it search any dungeon |
| 22:16.45 | KarlThePagan | here's what I'm thinking... each player has a LFG preference... and whenever they login they are ALWAYS LFG for those conditions |
| 22:17.09 | snurre | i wouldnt dream of using either the lfg chan or system anyway :p |
| 22:17.25 | bladlus | Hm.. I just updated my Ace addons with the auto updater, and now my buttons doesn't show their keybindings anymore. Using Bartender3. Does anyone know how to show them? (And yes, the "Hotkey" option is turned on on all bars) |
| 22:17.44 | Barbanus | bladlus, go to the blizz keybindings menu |
| 22:17.48 | ZealotOnAStick | 363 ticks on corruption now, 399-400 with CoShadows . . . and I'm about to get another 18 spell dam. |
| 22:17.48 | Gngsk | bladlus, try rebinding them |
| 22:17.50 | nevcairiel | rebind them using the keybindings |
| 22:17.52 | Barbanus | reset your keybindings for your bars |
| 22:17.55 | KarlThePagan | so you could say 1st -> "(v) LFG Current Zone", 2nd -> "(v) LFG Best Recommended Instance" etc |
| 22:18.02 | bladlus | ok thanks |
| 22:18.10 | Neriak | is it a speed or memory optimization to make ace modules local ? |
| 22:18.25 | KarlThePagan | speed neriak |
| 22:18.33 | Neriak | why is that? |
| 22:18.41 | Barbanus | Neriak you mean externals vs not? |
| 22:18.47 | KarlThePagan | local variables don't bloat the global table |
| 22:18.55 | Neriak | no I mean real modules .. a croe with using many modules |
| 22:19.01 | KarlThePagan | and make all of the functions using locals faster |
| 22:19.08 | KarlThePagan | because their table is smaller |
| 22:19.08 | Neriak | s/croe/core/ |
| 22:19.21 | Neriak | Ah I see. |
| 22:19.28 | Neriak | hm will play around with this :) |
| 22:19.39 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: still there? |
| 22:19.42 | nevcairiel | man, looking for a new guild on cross-realm is stress. |
| 22:19.50 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | whats up? |
| 22:19.53 | Barbanus | what realm? |
| 22:20.21 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: I'm planning on also make the modules locale, so we have to check if you still get access to Fence's functions |
| 22:20.30 | KarlThePagan | for example check out my last post here - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59328163&postId=593330044&sid=1#6 |
| 22:20.37 | Barbanus | nevcairiel, what realm are you planning to move to? |
| 22:20.42 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 22:20.43 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | Neriak: oh, while I got you here, what does the "- Bid" mean? |
| 22:20.51 | KarlThePagan | using local copies of bit.* functions made a noticable difference |
| 22:20.52 | Barbanus | Are you EU or US? |
| 22:20.53 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | Neriak: what do you mean namking the modules locale? |
| 22:21.01 | Neriak | It does mean that someone already bid on that item |
| 22:21.03 | nevcairiel | I am looking for a good Guild, and whereever i find any, i will move to |
| 22:21.04 | nevcairiel | EU |
| 22:21.17 | Neriak | you can chnage it to smoothly fade out the bid moneyframe instead though |
| 22:21.21 | nevcairiel | but i am limited to PvE Realms, and i would prefer a german server. |
| 22:21.50 | KarlThePagan | err wait |
| 22:21.55 | KarlThePagan | that's the wrong benchmark lol |
| 22:22.04 | KarlThePagan | I have it somewhere but it made a difference |
| 22:22.12 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: something like local mod = simpleMinimap:NewModule("autozoom", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceHook-2.1") |
| 22:22.24 | Barbanus | nevcairiel, ahhh well I cant help you there ... I'm pvp and on US servers |
| 22:22.39 | Barbanus | Korgath is FTW tho |
| 22:22.50 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: people are saying that brings speed optimization |
| 22:22.59 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | Neriak shouldn't be any problem, if you make any changes to core.lua then I just need to edit my copy |
| 22:23.11 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: the only disadvantage would be you'd have to access methods different |
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| 22:23.25 | nevcairiel | Plus i expect them to be at least as successfull as my old guild, that means fighting 4H right now or something like that. I am somewhat limited in my choices there :P |
| 22:23.49 | Barbanus | Yea, well Korgath has 3 ally guilds killing KT |
| 22:23.58 | ZealotOnAStick | nevcairiel - what class? |
| 22:24.03 | nevcairiel | Druid |
| 22:24.10 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: you would have to do it like this: Addon:GetModule("myAddon"):Method() instead of Addon:MEthod() |
| 22:24.11 | Barbanus | DnT, Drama, and Dread (wtf is with the damn Ds??!?) |
| 22:24.27 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, and probably alliance? |
| 22:24.33 | Mimesis | lol dread |
| 22:24.33 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 22:24.43 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | Neriak: true, but for the most part the methods don't get called externally? |
| 22:24.44 | nevcairiel | cow druids are teh fugly |
| 22:24.52 | Barbanus | Mimesis, are you on korgath too? |
| 22:24.57 | Mimesis | dread is nubsauce |
| 22:25.01 | Mimesis | <-drama |
| 22:25.04 | Barbanus | Yes, yes they are |
| 22:25.11 | Barbanus | <= Progeny |
| 22:25.17 | Mimesis | heh |
| 22:25.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, if you were US and Horde, I could get you a home in Warfare (we're on 4 Horsemen) |
| 22:25.30 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: I don't know how you embedded the modules .. do they act like they belong to KCI now? |
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| 22:25.43 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:25.49 | nevcairiel | that doesnt help, really :P |
| 22:25.50 | Mimesis | kt is meh, i havent gone to naxx for 2 months |
| 22:26.22 | ZealotOnAStick | no, but the thought was there . . . |
| 22:26.28 | Barbanus | Heh Mimesis |
| 22:26.42 | Barbanus | is Mimesis your char name? |
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| 22:26.51 | Mimesis | ya |
| 22:26.53 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | Neriak: no not really, its pretty much the whole fence addon embeded, except the use a different db name and they get loaded by KCI's toc file |
| 22:27.04 | Barbanus | Yea, I think i have seen you around |
| 22:27.10 | Mimesis | warlock, but i barely log him on, trying to make my rogue my main |
| 22:27.37 | Barbanus | The Drama vs Insomniacs fights were fun to watch :P |
| 22:27.49 | Mimesis | rofl, we rocked them pretty hard |
| 22:28.05 | Barbanus | That you did |
| 22:28.20 | Mikma | i need ckknight :( |
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| 22:29.58 | Prophy | wheres videos of drama vs insomniacs? |
| 22:30.13 | KarlThePagan | Neriak, fyi you can make both a global and local reference to the module and get almost all of the speed bennefits |
| 22:30.31 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | KarlThePagan: what speed benefits? |
| 22:30.35 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: so when I update the SVN version you only update your version and everything should work fine. |
| 22:30.46 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten-Laptop_, not looking up the symbol in the global table |
| 22:30.49 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | Neriak: yep, it *should* |
| 22:30.51 | KarlThePagan | if he references it a lot |
| 22:31.00 | Neriak | Kaelten-Laptop_: I try to break your addon hehe |
| 22:31.01 | Barbanus | Prophy, they were on google at one time... |
| 22:31.21 | Mimesis | the video links are in our public forus |
| 22:31.24 | Neriak | KarlThePagan: I'm not sure if I can follow you hehe |
| 22:31.51 | Mimesis | www.dramaonline.net |
| 22:31.51 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | oh KarlThePagan I went with 50 buckets for KCI |
| 22:31.51 | KarlThePagan | nice kael |
| 22:31.52 | Barbanus | ___ |
| 22:31.52 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | on the sell value data storage |
| 22:31.52 | Barbanus | ,, // \\ |
| 22:31.53 | Barbanus | (_,\/ \_/ \ |
| 22:31.55 | Barbanus | \ \_/_\_/> |
| 22:31.57 | Barbanus | /_/ /_/ |
| 22:31.58 | Barbanus | ahh wtf |
| 22:32.04 | Barbanus | stupid clipboard |
| 22:32.09 | Neriak | lol noob |
| 22:32.16 | Barbanus | http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=insomniacs+drama |
| 22:32.19 | Barbanus | There, thats better |
| 22:32.22 | Barbanus | Sorry guys :( |
| 22:32.29 | Neriak | np it's fun ;) |
| 22:32.58 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | max would be about 7k items between. |
| 22:33.21 | Kaelten-Laptop_ | so max should be around 140-150 per bucket |
| 22:33.30 | Mimesis | they keyron video is best |
| 22:33.59 | Mimesis | althought the one where we hide in the mountains, and ambush their whole raid is pretty good too |
| 22:34.03 | KarlThePagan | Neriak, like say you write your addon local MyAddon = {} and then add all the functions and data and such... then at the very end you register it with Ace (addon,library,module) and in addition you provide a global reference (getfenv(0).MyAddon = MyAddon) |
| 22:34.18 | KarlThePagan | well that's one of doing it |
| 22:35.09 | KarlThePagan | unless you're making a lot of references to MyAddon there's not too much of a point (and if you use self there's no point i guess) |
| 22:37.00 | KarlThePagan | blarg i'm a little scatterbrained right now |
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| 22:40.33 | CIA-17 | 03sano * r22358 10LoggerHead/ (Loggerhead.lua Loggerhead.toc): LoggerHead: Removed to try and fix my auto-zip script issue |
| 22:42.11 | CIA-17 | 03sano * r22359 10LoggerHead/ (LoggerHead.lua LoggerHead.toc): LoggerHead: re-imported in an attempt to fix auto-zip script issue. |
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| 22:42.54 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r22360 10Fizzle/Inspect.lua: |
| 22:42.54 | CIA-17 | Fizzle: |
| 22:42.54 | CIA-17 | - Inspect: Blizzard, I hope your stockings were full of shit this xmas. |
| 22:43.10 | Sole | LOL |
| 22:43.18 | phyber | I'm really quite displeased at the state of affairs with the inventory ids. |
| 22:44.55 | phyber | oh! nice. GetInventoryItemQuality("target", id) takes a unit id, but it doesn't work with target? |
| 22:44.59 | phyber | great! |
| 22:45.09 | Barbanus | Anyone have a replacement for Necrosis? |
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| 22:45.29 | Kirkburn | Henge, no? |
| 22:45.35 | Kirkburn | What's wrong with Necrosis? |
| 22:45.42 | Gnarfoz | dunno |
| 22:45.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Take a look at Acolyte |
| 22:46.23 | Barbanus | Necrosis is broken at the moment, the buttons open whenever you go in combat, and some other things |
| 22:46.30 | Barbanus | Henge isnt complete |
| 22:46.36 | Gngsk | hmm, doesn't fizzle show item durability? why would you care about seeing that info in the inspect frame? |
| 22:46.50 | Gnarfoz | dunno, there's inspect addons for that |
| 22:47.50 | CIA-17 | 03murazorz * r22361 10ColaLight/ColaLight-koKR.lua: ColaLight: Updated Koran locales |
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| 22:49.45 | phyber | Gngsk: it shows item quality too. |
| 22:49.55 | phyber | and I want to see the quality of the persons items when I inspect them. |
| 22:50.09 | phyber | I'm about to give up though. |
| 22:50.18 | phyber | I hate the whole inventory and tooltip syste,. |
| 22:50.55 | phyber | fizzle got a nice little tidy up as a bonus though. |
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| 22:51.10 | Herio | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 22:51.12 | Gngsk | phyber, I see |
| 22:52.46 | Mimesis | i thought fizzle was dura info on your char sheet, is it turning into something else? |
| 22:53.16 | Mimesis | oh hrm that was just asked... |
| 22:53.49 | phyber | this is just a module, it's no in fizzle's core :) |
| 22:53.54 | Ominous | why do i get ths error? http://ace.pastey.net/4071 |
| 22:54.31 | Nickenyfiken | phyber: if you look at Superinspect it replaces the whole inspect frame with its own one... i guess it's hard to modify blizzards one |
| 22:54.54 | Neriak | did they remove the print() command from the game client? I know "/print" works but what about the function when you're using TinyPad or Ommnibus ? |
| 22:55.01 | phyber | Nickenyfiken: I'm not modifying blizzard's one. I just create a texture anchored to part of it, like the quality borders in fizzle. |
| 22:55.14 | Neriak | ./print does truncate shit when it's to long :( |
| 22:55.17 | phyber | I just need a way to get the quality of the targets items. |
| 22:55.21 | Neriak | s/to/too/ |
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| 22:55.22 | vid` | superinspect is <3 |
| 22:56.37 | Nickenyfiken | ah i thought the problem was to change the actual boarder, not to get what item quality it has... misunderstood |
| 22:57.00 | Kameril | by default there never has been a print() command in wow, it was another mod making it |
| 22:57.02 | Amadeo | Why did Blizzard nerf inspect distance anyway? Was there a reason behind it? |
| 22:57.05 | CIA-17 | 03makk * r22362 10mDarkPact/ (. Core.lua): |
| 22:57.05 | CIA-17 | mDarkPact: |
| 22:57.05 | CIA-17 | - Added some basic color coding options. |
| 22:57.05 | phyber | GetInventoryItemQuality("unit", id) doesn't work with "target", but GetInventoryItemQuality("unit",invSlot) does |
| 22:57.12 | phyber | bah |
| 22:57.21 | phyber | s/second Quality/Link/ |
| 22:57.21 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22363 10Prat/Prat/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Prat: All modules using the new module registration protocol |
| 22:57.43 | Neriak | lol .. freaky but working hrhr: Minimap:SetMaskTexture(simpleMinimap:GetModule("skins").skins[simpleMinimap:GetModule("skins").db.profile.skin]["mask"]) |
| 22:58.22 | Sole | hmm |
| 22:58.36 | Sole | so the function to update the BG scoreboard is 356 lines long |
| 22:58.54 | Sole | thats a big function |
| 22:59.10 | syeren | Sole, you make Antagonist right :P? |
| 22:59.17 | Sole | yes |
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| 22:59.29 | Sole | your titles wont hide? |
| 22:59.33 | syeren | Could you possibly change the anchor so it actually is a bar :P |
| 22:59.40 | syeren | Or at least make the fucking test last longer. |
| 22:59.46 | Sole | lol |
| 23:00.02 | syeren | Pixel perfect UI and I have something like 3 seconds to get it in posistion. |
| 23:00.02 | Sole | fair enough |
| 23:00.38 | syeren | Other than that your addon is perfect :P |
| 23:01.02 | syeren | Need to tell the same to the chorometer person and OCB person. |
| 23:01.06 | syeren | OCB one was horrible. |
| 23:01.12 | Sole | 10, 15, 20 sec test timers long enough? |
| 23:01.23 | syeren | I had to keep casting hearthstone untill the last few miliseconds to get the bar into place... |
| 23:01.27 | syeren | Would be perfect Sole :P |
| 23:01.38 | Sole | k =] |
| 23:01.45 | syeren | I mean I have already solved the problem after about an hour of fixing the alignment of my UI. |
| 23:01.54 | syeren | Using a fucking screengrid. |
| 23:02.08 | Sole | well if you REALLY want it to be pixel perfect then just set the anchor positions manually |
| 23:02.56 | syeren | Just needed a better test function Sole ;) |
| 23:03.02 | kergoth | what is barannounce3? |
| 23:03.23 | syeren | Now all I need to do is find the code of OCB to ask the same. |
| 23:03.36 | Sole | Antagonist.db.profile.positions.1/2/3.x/y = pixels |
| 23:03.48 | Sole | 1/2/3 = anchors, x/y = axis obviously :) |
| 23:04.15 | kergoth | does ant use the new spellcast events for its casting bar yet? i've noticed the target cast bar in the ocb that haste removed seems to show casts that ant misses at times |
| 23:04.32 | Sole | yes it does |
| 23:04.32 | Kameril | kergoth: a mod i started a long time ago that "announces" bars to the raid/group, has sorting, customization ect - wasn't meant to replace any other mods |
| 23:04.47 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:05.10 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r22364 10gfxToggle2/gfxToggle2.lua: |
| 23:05.10 | CIA-17 | gfxToggle2: |
| 23:05.10 | CIA-17 | - way better solution to get access to simpleMinimap's MaskTexture settings and refresh it after touching the global texture settings. yay! |
| 23:05.20 | Sole | it only works for targets but its there |
| 23:05.31 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 23:07.12 | Neriak | kergoth: I've added your suggestion to Fence. optionally you can choose either using the "- Bid" text or the greyed out money frame of the bid :) |
| 23:07.26 | kergoth | neat, thanks :) |
| 23:07.41 | yacoob | um... highly wow-unrelated question; where does one get arcade/neogeo/snes/other old consoles roms nowadays? |
| 23:08.04 | Neriak | 'twas a simple BrowseButton2:SetAlpha(.5) as I figured before :) |
| 23:08.50 | kergoth | yacoob, i'm sure you could easily find torrents of gigs of them |
| 23:09.12 | CIA-17 | 03kagaro * r22365 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer:Added notification code back in, somone forgot to update |
| 23:10.41 | yacoob | kergoth, I'd rather browse through titles and select ones I like/remember. Old mame.dk was neat, but it's dead. Google turns some sites up, will check those, but it's always nice to have folks opinion. |
| 23:11.36 | Sole | so when I hook a function, my version gets called, right? not the original |
| 23:11.42 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle * r22366 10/branches/SorrenTimers/: |
| 23:11.42 | CIA-17 | SorrenTimers: |
| 23:11.42 | CIA-17 | - created branch base directory. |
| 23:12.17 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07adirelle * r22367 10SorrenTimers/: |
| 23:12.17 | CIA-17 | SorrenTimers: |
| 23:12.17 | CIA-17 | - created 'adirelle' branch. |
| 23:12.38 | kergoth | yacoob, ah |
| 23:12.40 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:12.46 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07adirelle * r22368 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers/: |
| 23:12.46 | CIA-17 | SorrenTimers: |
| 23:12.46 | CIA-17 | - added 'adirelle' branch content. |
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| 23:14.18 | Mimesis | yacoob: depending on the setup of the torrent you can choose which files are downloaded |
| 23:14.34 | yacoob | Mimesis, yeah, but it still isn't as nice as website :) |
| 23:15.05 | Mimesis | i havent been able to find a good website that actually houses any files |
| 23:15.33 | yacoob | romnation? |
| 23:15.39 | yacoob | rom-world? |
| 23:15.41 | Mimesis | although i think i have every snes genesis nes neogeo capcomsystem game on cd somewhere |
| 23:16.06 | CIA-17 | 03adirelle 07adirelle * r22369 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers/ (. SorrenTimers.toc): |
| 23:16.06 | CIA-17 | SorrenTimers: |
| 23:16.06 | CIA-17 | - embedded Deformat. |
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| 23:17.05 | yacoob | Mimesis, there was time when rom format changed |
| 23:17.08 | Gngsk | syeren, what screengrid did you use to organize your UI? |
| 23:17.18 | yacoob | or rather, new mame wanted the dumps in slightly various layout |
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| 23:22.40 | CIA-17 | 03zealotonastick * r22370 10/branches/Voyeur/ (Bindings.xml Voyeur-enUS.lua Voyeur.lua Voyeur.toc): |
| 23:22.40 | CIA-17 | Voyeur: Basic functionality now in place. Binding for inspecting works, guild info displayed. Code heavily based on GoodInspect at this point. |
| 23:22.40 | CIA-17 | Localization added, xml replaced by CreateFrame code. Inspecting of opposite faction untested thus far (suspect it won't work). |
| 23:23.14 | phyber | local itemID = string.gmatch(link, "%s|Hitem:(%d):%d:%d:%d|h[%s]|h%s") |
| 23:23.22 | phyber | shouldn't that match the (%d) ? |
| 23:23.40 | phyber | like, I want to put (%d) in itemID |
| 23:24.07 | nymbia | phyber: item links are 6 values now |
| 23:24.18 | syeren | Align. |
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| 23:24.26 | syeren | Someone in here modded it for me to work gngsk. |
| 23:26.12 | Nickenyfiken | hmm the "Have materials" button in enchanting frame is that default or a addon? |
| 23:26.17 | Gngsk | syeren, link?! |
| 23:26.22 | Antiarc | Default. |
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| 23:26.29 | Nickenyfiken | oh cool havent seen it |
| 23:26.35 | Antiarc | It's new in 2.0. |
| 23:26.42 | Nickenyfiken | WTB one for normal crafting frame too |
| 23:26.51 | Makk | http://makken.info/mdp/ |
| 23:26.53 | Makk | :D |
| 23:27.18 | mjc | blarg |
| 23:28.16 | Xogxog | Anyone know a FuBar plugin to keep track of the hunter's track abilities? |
| 23:28.27 | Gngsk | syeren, I was going to say for aranging oCB, you can do oCBFrame:Show() oCBFrame:SetAlpha(1) and then move it around |
| 23:28.44 | mjc | Xogxog: busted those kinds of addons in 2.0 I think |
| 23:28.46 | Herio | ckk |
| 23:29.03 | Herio | tourist lib is missing the champion's hall it appears |
| 23:29.11 | kenlyric | mjc: what would break those sort of addons? |
| 23:29.44 | mjc | kenlyric: they changed the tracking stuff |
| 23:29.46 | ckknight | Herio: add it if you want |
| 23:29.50 | kenlyric | unless i'm not thinking complicated enough :) |
| 23:30.08 | Gngsk | meh |
| 23:30.29 | Gngsk | ckk just needs to implement secure frames for dewdrop! |
| 23:30.34 | Herio | k |
| 23:30.48 | mjc | kenlyric: I don't think you can *set* trakcing via an addon anymore |
| 23:30.50 | Herio | i'm not sure if it should be marked as an instance |
| 23:31.07 | ckknight | Gngsk: way complicated |
| 23:31.37 | Gngsk | ckknight, does that mean it won't be happening? |
| 23:31.53 | Feldia | does anyone else get alot of errors from grid the last few days? |
| 23:31.55 | Fumler[N] | anyone got a ported version of oUF? :X |
| 23:32.03 | Ominous | is name(_, "variable") the same as name(nil, "variable)? |
| 23:32.11 | ckknight | Gngsk: probably. |
| 23:32.23 | snurre | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5418/preform-av-enabler/ |
| 23:32.24 | snurre | sweet |
| 23:32.52 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r22371 10RaidAgent/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:32.52 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 23:32.52 | CIA-17 | - Added Random Master Looting as an option to GBank Auto Looting for BWL/ZG/AQ/Naxx items |
| 23:33.04 | Feldia | same thing as stinkyqueue |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r22372 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned Chatr - Thanks ElykNosrac; Moved a debug message |
| 23:33.38 | ckknight | Gngsk: I'd essentially need two different dewdrops, secure ones and insecure ones |
| 23:33.39 | kenlyric | mjc: strange... isn't tracking just a spell? |
| 23:33.55 | haste | the secure one would be caching a lot of frames? |
| 23:33.58 | kenlyric | can't see how putting it in an addon and letting you choose is much different from taking up six buttons on your bar to do it. |
| 23:34.06 | kenlyric | but, IANAD |
| 23:34.32 | nymbia | ckknight: big dewdrops aren't mousewheel scrolling anymore, intended? |
| 23:35.00 | ckknight | not intended |
| 23:35.05 | Arkayenro | can you delete tags from the svn? |
| 23:35.22 | AKX | Woo, Chatr highlight fired \o/ |
| 23:35.39 | [Cu]Werik | nn |
| 23:35.40 | Fisker- | damn |
| 23:35.48 | Fisker- | that Tristan guy should join us here :( |
| 23:38.36 | Aileen_ | You can set tracking via an addon... I use Fizzwidget TrackMenu for it (wish he'd make an AspectMenu too, I miss bc_[Track|Aspect]Menu) |
| 23:39.39 | yacoob | AKX, ChatrDM working yet? :) |
| 23:39.50 | AKX | yacoob, no. Cba'd |
| 23:40.29 | yacoob | EXPN? |
| 23:42.36 | *** mode/#wowace [-b *!n=astrayca@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] by Tekkub |
| 23:42.51 | *** join/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=astrayca@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:43.17 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r22374 10Prat/Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: support player links in the splitter. Added debug option to turn on full text replacement. |
| 23:43.17 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r22373 10RaidAgent/common/AutoLoot.lua: |
| 23:43.17 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 23:43.17 | CIA-17 | - Added BWL (elementium ore) to Auto/Random loot |
| 23:45.34 | Mimesis | raidagent eh |
| 23:45.34 | Mimesis | need to look at that |
| 23:45.57 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@dsl027-181-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 23:49.14 | Xogxog | @"<kenlyric> can't see how putting it in an addon and letting you choose is much different from taking up six buttons on your bar to do it." kenlyric, that's not what I want, really, though. ;P I just want a FuBar addon that shows what's currently being tracked and hides the g'damn minimap icon. |
| 23:49.21 | *** join/#wowace Rashomon (n=Rashomon@81-232-62-22-no42.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 23:49.23 | Mikma | ckknight: i found a nice little "bug" for you to fix at Cartographer. it's hard to explain and i think it requires for you to test it yourself too if i fail at explaining |
| 23:49.35 | ckknight | explain first |
| 23:49.55 | Gngsk | Xogxog, I'd be happy with that too and I think it's possible. |
| 23:50.11 | Mikma | when i zone in the Deadmines area the icons on minimap freeze and don't move with the minimap |
| 23:50.55 | *** join/#wowace Gagorian (i=rw3@GMMMCCXLVII.dsl.saunalahti.fi) |
| 23:50.55 | Mikma | ckknight: /rl fixes it tho |
| 23:51.09 | *** join/#wowace Mimesis (n=Mimesis@CPE000fea55870a-CM0014f85c2340.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:51.24 | Mikma | ckknight: i'm not sure that do you know that there is some area before the Deadmines instance, and zoning into that area bugs out, as does zoning in the instance too |
| 23:52.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I wonder if the same thing happens with the Wailing Caverns? |
| 23:52.25 | *** join/#wowace Diatu (n=Diatu@c-65-96-102-128.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
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| 23:52.51 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r22375 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_SinglePrice.lua): |
| 23:52.51 | CIA-17 | Fence: |
| 23:52.51 | CIA-17 | - Hotfix for ShowBid issues. It's working well again. |
| 23:52.55 | Mikma | ZealotOnAStick: give it a go and tell us :) |
| 23:53.10 | Mikma | ckknight: oh, and i also see the Boss-skulls on minimap when going to the Deadmines area |
| 23:54.05 | KarlThePagan | WTS /lfg command line utilities |
| 23:54.11 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 23:54.50 | KarlThePagan | will trade for someone to do the nasty gui bits |
| 23:55.20 | Nickenyfiken | fuck premades |
| 23:55.25 | Nickenyfiken | .-P |
| 23:55.43 | snurre | man, AV is annoying.. i wish aid station was as easy to cap as relief hut |
| 23:55.45 | a-stray-cat | but they loooove you |
| 23:55.45 | KarlThePagan | lol you're welcome |
| 23:56.15 | KarlThePagan | we had people in guild getting 6-9k honor this weekend |
| 23:56.21 | Nickenyfiken | lol ive lost 6 WSG in like 30 min or so |
| 23:56.31 | KarlThePagan | err per day |
| 23:56.37 | snurre | that's not so much, i got 9.4k today |
| 23:56.56 | Yinchie | snurre... still owning AV like in the old days? :) |
| 23:57.02 | KarlThePagan | snurre, AB farming? |
| 23:57.06 | snurre | my guild had 2x AB premades where everyone cashed in 15k+ every day, after nerf |
| 23:57.09 | snurre | KarlThePagan: mostly AV tbh |
| 23:57.10 | anenigma_ | I did 14k over the weekend. then lost 4k by misclicking on goods on the av vendor :D |
| 23:57.16 | snurre | had to do some WSG to get marks |
| 23:57.38 | KarlThePagan | you're horde side aren't you snurre |
| 23:57.38 | snurre | yeah, so chaining losses :/ |
| 23:57.38 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 23:57.49 | KarlThePagan | 9k alliance side ;) |
| 23:58.04 | snurre | 39% wins in WSG, 89% win in AB, 33% win in AV |
| 23:58.20 | snurre | those numbers are sadly not coincidental |
| 23:58.22 | KarlThePagan | it is amazing how alli can screw up AV sometimes |
| 23:59.20 | snurre | ive done all BGs on both sides, and AB is perfectly balanced, while both WSG and AV favours alliance (paladins for the former and the easy access to frostwolf keep for the latter) |
| 23:59.42 | kenlyric | yes, easy access through that one little tower.... |
| 23:59.58 | Yinchie | snurre dont bring up that subject again from a year+ ago on korgall :P |
