irclog2html for #wowace on 20061226

`00:00.04`	`*** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net)`
`00:00.27`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: oh wait i think itunes does support global keys!`
`00:00.32`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`00:00.34`	`Mikma`	`atleast i remember using them`
`00:01.02`	`Zicon`	`I've heard something about opening a menu to set up global keys, does that help? =P`
`00:01.23`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: Cmd -> = next, Cmd <- = previous, Cmd up = volume up etc`
`00:01.49`	`ckknight`	`doesn't work for me`
`00:01.57`	`*** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@84-51-151-23.jamesk522.adsl.metronet.co.uk)`
`00:01.59`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`00:02.03`	`ckknight`	`wait, those aren't global`
`00:02.04`	`ckknight`	`that's all`
`00:02.09`	`Mikma`	`heh ok then`
`00:03.58`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/22459`
`00:04.57`	`Mikma`	`btw, Versiontracker <3 <3 <3`
`00:05.23`	`ckknight`	`thanks`
`00:05.48`	`Mikma`	`it's the only list i have subscribed :)`
`00:06.02`	`Mikma`	`they send you an email containing all the updates of the week`
`00:06.07`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Can anyone point me to a summary of how precisely I set externals on SVN? I've clearly missed something somewhere.`
`00:06.23`	`Mikma`	`ZealotOnAStick: do you use svn command prompt?`
`00:06.44`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I have TortoiseSVN. I'm sure I probably can, though I've yet to find just how.`
`00:07.27`	`Mikma`	`it's like super-easy with command prompt :P`
`00:07.34`	`Mikma`	`not sure about tortoiseSVN and stuff`
`00:08.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ashley?`
`00:08.16`	`Mikma`	`what i always do is just: svn co http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Grid , and then: svn pe svn:externals Grid/Libs`
`00:08.28`	`Mikma`	`that way i can see how the externals are supposed to be set`
`00:08.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`00:09.07`	`Mikma`	`then i do what is needed for the addon and just do the same for it, svn pe svn:externals Libs and then svn ci addon -m "addon: externals"`
`00:10.13`	`*** join/#wowace kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-069-134-153-219.nc.res.rr.com)`
`00:11.24`	`kagaro`	`anyone here good with icons? Im thinking to make a treasure tracker for crates, chess, etc need map icons for it though`
`00:11.45`	`Mikma`	`kagaro: use the icons in game?`
`00:12.43`	`kagaro`	`i could use those i guess`
`00:12.45`	`CIA-17`	`03kirkburn * r22145 10ClearFont2/ (5 files):`
`00:12.45`	`CIA-17`	`ClearFont2:`
`00:12.45`	`CIA-17`	`- Housekeeping time!`
`00:12.45`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed CustomDesign example due to code change (due to code changes it may need an overhaul)`
`00:12.45`	`CIA-17`	`- Uodated descriptions and changelog, readme info`
`00:13.22`	`Kirkburn`	`Hmm, nicely repeated text there. Wonder where my brain has gone ...`
`00:13.25`	`Benumbed`	`is there a way when hooking to disable another mod from hooking it completely (that I have overlooked)`
`00:13.36`	`Mikma`	`kagaro: thats what everyone else does :)`
`00:13.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Mikma, you said you could make a transparent icon for CF? :)`
`00:14.12`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: yeah i can if you give me the icon`
`00:14.25`	`Kirkburn`	`The tga in the ClearFont download should be useable`
`00:14.35`	`Kirkburn`	`The bg is only one colour. Black :P`
`00:14.52`	`ckknight`	`thanks a lot, Mikma`
`00:14.57`	`Benumbed`	`trying to get my mod to do hyperlinks if contains a word I choose, and that hyperlink not react to prat, dunno how to disable prat from hooking it =x`
`00:14.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Ahem, ClearFont2 download`
`00:14.58`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: no problem :)`
`00:15.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Mikma, if you're awesome and can make it, just commit it :)`
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`00:20.01`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: ok then`
`00:21.05`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: it's done now and now i will test does it work`
`00:21.17`	`Kirkburn`	`awesome`
`00:22.54`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: where do you have the line that it uses the icon.tga?`
`00:23.28`	`Kirkburn`	`ClearFont.hasIcon = true`
`00:23.49`	`Kirkburn`	`=)`
`00:23.51`	`Mikma`	`heh, that simple :D`
`00:25.06`	`CIA-17`	`03kirkburn * r22146 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2: Commenting update`
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`00:29.51`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r22147 10ClearFont2/icon.tga: ClearFont2: icon update`
`00:31.21`	`Kirkburn`	`Woo`
`00:31.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Thanks`
`00:31.41`	`Mikma`	`np :)`
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`00:35.02`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22148 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - if you disable a group on the base level, it now properly reflects the disabled state.`
`00:35.36`	`Ominous`	`is there a smaller version of locationFu which only says zone name and co-ordinates?`
`00:36.49`	`kagaro`	`anyone know the name of the texture used for deeprock salt? I cant seem to find a soil or dust for it`
`00:38.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Ominous, turn off the options?!`
`00:38.25`	`Kirkburn`	`If the options are off, they're not doing anything`
`00:38.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Ok . . . the sailing portion of Pirates of the Burning Sea is frigging beautiful.`
`00:38.59`	`Ominous`	`Kirkburn: sigh i am blind :D t`
`00:39.03`	`Ominous`	`ty*`
`00:39.11`	`Kirkburn`	`=)`
`00:39.31`	`neenee`	`kagaro: gravemoss uses it too I think`
`00:39.56`	`Ominous`	`kagaro: i normally make a macro with it and then look at the macro file in wtf as that says which texture it is`
`00:40.17`	`kagaro`	`good idea`
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`00:44.52`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22149 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - automatically refresh on combat change`
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`00:47.07`	`Gngsk`	`kagaro, Interface\\Icons\\INV_Misc_Dust_02`
`00:47.19`	`kagaro`	`thanks`
`00:47.24`	`Gngsk`	`np`
`00:47.32`	`Gngsk`	`AceConsole FTW!`
`00:48.30`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`00:48.49`	`Gngsk`	`I like the /print`
`00:48.53`	`Gngsk`	`it makes finding things easy`
`00:49.41`	`ckknight`	`ah, right`
`00:51.01`	`Benumbed`	`ckknight, is there any way to hook a blizz function and not self.hooks it and allow another mod to do its thing?`
`00:51.19`	`ckknight`	`wait, what do you mean?`
`00:51.42`	`ckknight`	`hook the function, not call the hook`
`00:51.55`	`Benumbed`	`well I wanna hook a hyperlink in chatframe, and prat to not do its thing if message contains a word`
`00:52.06`	`ckknight`	`which'd make it a dead call, essentially`
`00:52.28`	`ckknight`	`um, alter prat to call the hook if that word shows up...`
`00:52.32`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r22150 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast.lua Click2CastMenu.lua):`
`00:52.32`	`CIA-17`	`Click2Cast:`
`00:52.32`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:52.48`	`Mikma`	`http://bash.org/?715644`
`00:53.05`	`Benumbed`	`dont wanna make it dependant but could I just have it do its thing and then before self.hooks..check if prat and if so cancel prats function?`
`00:55.00`	`ckknight`	`I'm not sure`
`00:55.03`	`ckknight`	`confusing.`
`00:55.24`	`Benumbed`	`well prat uses urls for chatcopy`
`00:55.42`	`Benumbed`	`but I wanna allow a way to share a url with my mod which uses urls also`
`00:55.51`	`Benumbed`	`and prat keeps overwriting the url in chat`
`00:56.05`	`Mikma`	`prat is bad, mm'kay?`
`00:56.14`	`Benumbed`	`no its good, not saying that lol`
`00:56.39`	`Benumbed`	`but i wanna click the url and it play that streaming music, not copy to clipboard like prat wants to do with it`
`00:56.46`	ag`	`I like Prat`
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`00:57.14`	`Mimesis`	`merry christmas folks`
`00:57.25`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Why is it bad?`
`00:57.36`	`Mikma`	`because it has too much crap in it`
`00:57.48`	`Mikma`	`idChat -addons were good`
`00:57.48`	`Kaelten`	`ZealotOnAStick: you see the new frame for AuctionSpy?`
`00:57.49`	`Benumbed`	`guess easiest thing to do is check if prat and if so hook prats function and end it if message contains a word /shrug`
`00:58.02`	`Benumbed`	`its modules, disable ones you dont want =x`
`00:58.03`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Kaelten - playing with Pirates of the Burning Sea atm.`
`00:58.59`	`Mikma`	`Benumbed: no, afaik they aren't modules, they are all builtin`
`00:59.24`	`Benumbed`	`prat is modules`
`00:59.34`	`Benumbed`	`or at least it is now`
`00:59.39`	`Mikma`	`let's see`
`00:59.43`	`Mikma`	`svn is never wrong`
`00:59.53`	`*** join/#wowace Industrial (n=tom@a80-100-243-86.adsl.xs4all.nl)`
`00:59.55`	`Amadeo`	`I'm on Mikma's side with Prat :)`
`01:00.03`	`Industrial`	`Anyone here can tell me how groups work in ag_Unitframes?`
`01:00.18`	ag`	`I can`
`01:00.40`	`Mikma`	`haha`
`01:00.44`	`Mikma`	`you sure you can?`
`01:00.50`	ag`	`I think yeah`
`01:00.51`	`nevcairiel`	`at least he can try`
`01:00.51`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`01:01.07`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: Prat sucks idChat -addons rule, right?`
`01:01.07`	ag`	`Yeah I'll give it a shot :P`
`01:01.14`	ag`	`what you want Industrial ?`
`01:01.36`	`Industrial`	ag`: can i stick my pet, player, target, target of target together or is that not what those groups are
`01:01.43`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`01:01.49`	`Mikma`	`Benumbed: looks to me they are all loaded in the .toc`
`01:01.59`	`Mikma`	`Benumbed: and that means they all get loaded no matter what`
`01:02.18`	ag`	`The group filter is only for group names, ie. PRIEST,DRUID,WARRIOR, etc... or group numbers ie. 1,2,3,4`
`01:02.42`	`Industrial`	`oh, raid only?`
`01:02.51`	`Industrial`	`but there was a party group too so that confused me`
`01:02.59`	ag`	`party doesn't use the group filter`
`01:03.03`	`Benumbed`	`the file is loaded for each module but basically craps out when see's its disabled`
`01:03.05`	ag`	`it's the way blizzard made it`
`01:03.06`	`nevcairiel`	`party is a special type of group`
`01:03.07`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`01:03.26`	ag`	`aguf groups is really just a fancy dewdrop frontend to blizzards protected party and raid groups`
`01:03.45`	`Mikma`	`Benumbed: everything gets loaded first. then it looks the state and runs the disable-functions`
`01:03.57`	`Mikma`	`Benumbed: that means they do get loaded and after that they are unregistered`
`01:04.26`	`Benumbed`	`and after garbage collection they are gone, why we questing prat ne ways heh`
`01:04.34`	`Mikma`	`dunno`
`01:04.35`	`Gngsk`	ag`, did you add the class and alphabetical sorting for 1 frame full raid?
`01:04.42`	`Benumbed`	`could just delete modules which would ensure they are not loaded also`
`01:04.46`	`Mikma`	`someone just asked me why prat is bad :D`
`01:04.54`	ag`	`Gngsk: I haven't added a sorting menu yet, though it is peace of cake for me to do`
`01:05.00`	`Benumbed`	`but yea, thing is ppl do run prat and it wants to overrun my call`
`01:05.09`	`Gngsk`	ag`, k saw that in a thread today
`01:05.14`	`Mikma`	`Benumbed: well prat is bad, mmkay?`
`01:05.23`	ag`	`I like Prat Mikma`
`01:05.25`	`Mikma`	`Benumbed: unregister the functions perhaps? :D`
`01:05.25`	`Benumbed`	`shrug, I like it like I said`
`01:05.27`	ag`	`what's wrong with Prat?`
`01:05.30`	`Gngsk`	`love to see flashing for rest/combat indicator on borders too like in MG2!`
`01:05.31`	ag`	`:P`
`01:05.32`	`Mikma`	ag`: you? omg /slap
`01:05.50`	`Mikma`	ag`: too much crap punched in a bunch
`01:05.51`	`Benumbed`	`its better than chatmod, cant deny that`
`01:05.59`	ag`	`Gngsk: I liked the flashing borders too but I can't say when/if they will get back, I have much larger issues on the table atm:(`
`01:06.00`	`Mikma`	`Chatmanager <3`
`01:06.20`	`Mikma`	`nothing has ever beaten chatmanager :)`
`01:06.27`	ag`	`they did draw more attention than the little swords crosss`
`01:06.47`	`Mikma`	ag`: D I S C O!
`01:06.49`	`Gngsk`	`aye, looked nice and were functional`
`01:07.16`	`*** part/#wowace Industrial (n=tom@a80-100-243-86.adsl.xs4all.nl)`
`01:09.10`	`Mikma`	`no-one else uses Chatmanager?`
`01:09.26`	ag`	`waht's that?`
`01:09.32`	ag`	`on SVN?`
`01:09.41`	`Mikma`	`nope`
`01:09.44`	`kovi`	`non-ace addon afaik`
`01:09.44`	`Mimesis`	`is there an inspect mod floating around, anything other than superinspect, with at least the function to let you keep the inspect frame open and working after someone has left your range`
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`01:09.47`	ag`	`then I haven't tried it`
`01:09.48`	`kovi`	`i used to use it`
`01:09.49`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6471-CirksChatmanagerContinued.html`
`01:09.54`	`kovi`	`but then it didn't get updated for a while`
`01:09.59`	`kovi`	`and i dropped it`
`01:10.02`	`kovi`	`:\|`
`01:10.07`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`has Cirk upgraded any of his addons?`
`01:10.11`	`Mikma`	`kovi: well guess what, it has been taken over :)`
`01:10.14`	`kovi`	`i think he quit`
`01:10.15`	ag`	`I am too lazy to use addons not on the SVN`
`01:10.15`	`Mikma`	`see the link i just pasted`
`01:10.17`	`Mimesis`	`i used to use chatmanager, but come 2.0 i found prat did almost everything that i used it for`
`01:10.39`	`kovi`	`i don't really miss it`
`01:10.41`	`Mikma`	`Chatmanager has GUI which beats 10-0 other addons`
`01:10.49`	`kovi`	`it has some nice things, but i can live without it :P`
`01:11.26`	`Mimesis`	`i like prats fubar addon well enough`
`01:11.44`	`Mikma`	`i don't :( prat has too much crap in it and all gets enabled on first login`
`01:11.55`	`Mikma`	`that's really a pain in the ass to disable all the extra-crap there is`
`01:12.00`	`Mimesis`	`also prat is modular isnt it? i know ive deleted certain lua files to get rid of the extras`
`01:12.05`	`Gngsk`	`delete the lua files`
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`01:12.30`	`Mikma`	`too much work. i'll rather use an addon that has all the features i need. if i need more i find another addon to do it :)`
`01:12.32`	`Mimesis`	`they are contained in a "modules" folder lol`
`01:12.37`	`Mimesis`	`ah`
`01:12.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Don't complain that people like many options :)`
`01:12.59`	`Mimesis`	`i was using both prat and chatman, but found prat to have more of the features i wanted`
`01:13.13`	`Kirkburn`	`Anyway, not all are turned on on first load, that's not true :)`
`01:13.44`	`Gngsk`	`how exactly do you use the prat who module?`
`01:14.30`	`Mimesis`	`so no inspect mods anyone knows about`
`01:14.46`	`Gnarfoz_`	`any reason not to user SI?`
`01:14.47`	`Gnarfoz_`	`works fine`
`01:14.51`	`Mimesis`	`well`
`01:15.01`	`Mimesis`	`seems kinda bloated with the bonus scanning stuff`
`01:15.08`	`Mimesis`	`and i dont like the look exactly`
`01:15.13`	`Mikma`	`well, anyway, i still don't like Prat :)`
`01:15.25`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: matrix > others`
`01:15.32`	`Kirkburn`	`Mammoth > you`
`01:15.41`	`Mimesis`	`matrix is not > jedi`
`01:15.43`	`Mikma`	`no, matrix`
`01:15.56`	`Kirkburn`	`yes, matron`
`01:15.56`	`Mikma`	`no mammoth will hit me after matrixdodge`
`01:16.08`	`Mikma`	`anyway, http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2786/natur-enemycastbar/`
`01:16.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Prat ftw!`
`01:16.12`	`Mikma`	`and prat is bad for me.`
`01:16.29`	`Mimesis`	`what do people use natur for anymore`
`01:16.41`	`Mimesis`	`i loved it for a while and then got rid of it lol`
`01:16.59`	`Mimesis`	`noticable fps increase with it disabled as well`
`01:16.59`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Speaking of Inspect mods . . .`
`01:17.09`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: haahaa you can't do that! i'm the one`
`01:17.36`	`Mimesis`	`kirk must be part of the system`
`01:17.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'm trying to figure out a name for a reasonanably minimal inspect mod - basically replicate GoodInspect's old functionality except for inspecting beyond inspect range (since that's not possible now without a db/caching)`
`01:17.48`	`Mikma`	`yes, let's unplug him`
`01:17.51`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`So, any suggestions for an Inspect mod name?`
`01:18.02`	`Mimesis`	`SirInspectAlot`
`01:18.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Situation!`
`01:18.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Now we're stuck.`
`01:18.20`	`Mimesis`	`lol that was pretty bad tbh`
`01:18.23`	ag`	`ziiiing`
`01:18.49`	ag`	`TheGogglesTheyDoNothing`
`01:18.51`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: well let's wait for the train`
`01:18.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Inspect YourClothesOh`
`01:19.01`	`Kirkburn`	`(minus the space)`
`01:19.15`	`Kirkburn`	`geddit? geddit?!`
`01:19.25`	`Mikma`	`no`
`01:19.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Look, Mikma! Girl in red dress!`
`01:19.36`	`Kirkburn`	`Fetch!`
`01:19.40`	`Quetzi`	`InspectorGadgetless :D`
`01:19.59`	`Mikma`	`ok, the red dress is gone now`
`01:19.59`	`Kirkburn`	`(Inspector Clueso, duh)`
`01:20.19`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Tossing around idea like "Assay" "Examiner" "Probe" (That's horrible Kirkburn, I had to say it to "get" it) "ScrutinEyez" etc. but nothing really jumps out to me as "the name"`
`01:20.21`	`Mikma`	`waitress, with rope, in library`
`01:20.37`	`Mikma`	`ZealotOnAStick: analprobe`
`01:20.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Why thanks =)`
`01:20.57`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: i can make you cry`
`01:21.02`	`Kirkburn`	`Mikma, you just left a naked woman on the sidewalk, didn't you ...`
`01:21.14`	`Kirkburn`	`I didn't say steal her clothes!`
`01:21.15`	`Xogxog`	`ZealotOnAStick, Peekaboo.`
`01:21.32`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: well the dress did go nicely with my eyes`
`01:21.37`	`Kirkburn`	`Dashing!`
`01:21.39`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: lookie, now you will cry:`
`01:21.41`	`Mikma`	`mikma@[~/Desktop/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns]: rm -rf ClearFont2/`
`01:21.47`	`Mikma`	`gone :)`
`01:21.51`	`Mimesis`	`zealot: i was wondering how far this addon has come already`
`01:21.55`	`Kirkburn`	`noo`
`01:22.01`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Peakaboo isn't bad. Also considering "Appraiser"`
`01:22.04`	`Gngsk`	`ZealotOnAStick, Look-See`
`01:22.27`	`Xogxog`	`ZealotOnAStick, don't spell it 'peakaboo', though. ;P`
`01:22.30`	`Mikma`	`~poke Kirkburn`
`01:22.31`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Kirkburn, pokes Kirkburn repeatedly, hilarity ensues.`
`01:22.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Mimesis: Uhm . . . not very. I've looked at lots and lots of code, and, uh, I have the binding part done, though I'm trying to see if there's a better way.`
`01:22.43`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`(PikaBeau?)`
`01:22.44`	`Mimesis`	`ah`
`01:22.52`	`Mimesis`	`Pikabu`
`01:22.59`	`Kirkburn`	`~execute`
`01:23.01`	`purl`	`ACTION produces a guillotine. Who's first?`
`01:23.06`	`Mimesis`	`Gotta inspect em all`
`01:23.20`	`Fisker-`	`ckknight`
`01:23.20`	`Mikma`	`ZealotOnAStick: DirtyFingers`
`01:23.21`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`while cute, I'd hate myself.`
`01:23.23`	`Fisker-`	`request-time!`
`01:23.25`	`Mimesis`	`haha`
`01:23.29`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'd also face ridicule from my guild.`
`01:23.33`	`ckknight`	`Fisker-: k...`
`01:23.43`	`Kirkburn`	`"Fumble"`
`01:23.49`	`Fisker-`	`Dead-circles for cartographer?`
`01:23.59`	`Mikma`	`Fisker-: what's dead-circles?`
`01:24.02`	`Mikma`	`~fisker`
`01:24.04`	`purl`	`rumour has it, fisker is hardware, software, all the same, I have no idea`
`01:24.07`	`Fisker-`	`hehe`
`01:24.10`	`Mikma`	`~emulate fisker`
`01:24.11`	`purl`	`less talking and more fisting please`
`01:24.19`	`Fisker-`	`we think alike`
`01:24.21`	`Mikma`	`~remulate`
`01:24.22`	`purl`	`It's partially an expression of my teenage angst...but mostly, it's a moo cow!`
`01:24.32`	`Saroz`	`Who said fisting?`
`01:24.36`	`Mikma`	`Saroz: purl`
`01:24.37`	`Kirkburn`	`\o/`
`01:24.45`	`Mikma`	`~inflatable dildos`
`01:24.46`	`purl`	`Oh yea, stretch that hole!`
`01:24.47`	`Fisker-`	`But just like the group rings/circles flashing red when in combat perhaps add so it flashes grey when dead?`
`01:24.50`	`ckknight`	`Fisker-: dead-circles?`
`01:25.04`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hmm. Current candidates: Peekaboo, Appraiser, ScrutinEyez, CheckOut. thoughts?`
`01:25.05`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`01:25.08`	`ckknight`	`I'm for that.`
`01:25.26`	`Fisker-`	`I LOVE THIS COMPANY YEAH WOOO`
`01:25.40`	`Mikma`	`~steveballmer Fisker-`
`01:25.41`	`purl`	`ACTION dances on Fisker- while screaming, "I. LOVE. THIS. COMPANY!!"`
`01:25.42`	`Quetzi`	`appraiser says money managing mod to me tbh`
`01:26.05`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Someone in WowI-Lounge is making an addon called Automootic to automatically moo at Taurens.`
`01:26.08`	`Quetzi`	`or something AH related at least`
`01:26.11`	`Mimesis`	`zealot: ow about, peepingtom`
`01:26.24`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Hmm.`
`01:26.29`	`Kirkburn`	`StripJoint`
`01:26.32`	`Fisker-`	`anyone gonna get some sleep`
`01:26.34`	`Mikma`	`ZealotOnAStick: DirtyFingers`
`01:26.38`	`Mimesis`	`lol`
`01:26.43`	`Kirkburn`	`Fisker-, not if there's any fisting going on ...`
`01:27.05`	`Health`	`WoW on a 22" widescreen is jus wicked`
`01:27.14`	`Mimesis`	`i like dual monitors myself`
`01:27.21`	`[Cu]Werik`	`especially if you have two of those`
`01:27.23`	`Kirkburn`	`I think something else looks better on a 22" widescreen`
`01:27.26`	`Mikma`	`doubleheaded dildos`
`01:27.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Voyeur.`
`01:27.33`	`Kirkburn`	`Yup, those.`
`01:27.43`	`Mimesis`	`hrm i like Voyeur`
`01:27.57`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22151 10Click2Cast/Click2CastMenu.lua:`
`01:27.57`	`CIA-17`	`Click2Cast:`
`01:27.57`	`CIA-17`	`- fix icky iterators.`
`01:27.57`	`CIA-17`	`- disable menu when in combat.`
`01:27.57`	`CIA-17`	`- fix tooltip dealy.`
`01:27.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Good for you, but do I want to hear about your private life?`
`01:28.00`	`Mikma`	`http://mikma.reaktio.net/rabbit.jpg`
`01:28.10`	`ckknight`	ag`: please test
`01:28.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Trick question. Hell yes.`
`01:28.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`OK, Voyeur it is.`
`01:28.35`	ag`	`ckknight: did you shoot down the bug?`
`01:28.44`	`ckknight`	`oh, not the 0 bug`
`01:28.46`	`ckknight`	`hadn't tested`
`01:28.50`	ag`	`okay`
`01:29.03`	`ckknight`	`how do I reproduce?`
`01:29.06`	`Mikma`	`ZealotOnAStick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism`
`01:29.20`	ag`	`here's what I do`
`01:29.37`	ag`	`I have my class profile, I set it up with around 5-10 bindings`
`01:29.46`	ag`	`then I go to an empty new profile`
`01:29.49`	ag`	`then I do /rl`
`01:29.55`	`Kirkburn`	`~voyeur`
`01:29.56`	`purl`	`Something ZOAS is currently indulging in`
`01:30.11`	ag`	`after /rl I select my class profile and I get the error`
`01:30.15`	`Mikma`	`HAHA, i learned something new! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameltoe`
`01:30.30`	`Kirkburn`	`You .... you didn't know of cameltoe?`
`01:30.35`	`ckknight`	`lol, Mikma`
`01:30.39`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: not in english :)`
`01:30.50`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`01:30.59`	`Kirkburn`	`(this is such a blokes channel)`
`01:31.14`	`Mikma`	`it is? wtf you people lied to me!`
`01:31.18`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`What language did you know it in, and what's the equivalent word for it?`
`01:31.26`	`Mikma`	`i thought this channel was full of hot chicks`
`01:31.46`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Mikma - yes, I know what Voyeurism is. Which is all the more reason why the name for the addon amuses me.`
`01:31.51`	`*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@adsl-157-60-245.msy.bellsouth.net)`
`01:31.51`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ`
`01:32.02`	`Mikma`	`ZealotOnAStick: but addons like that are usually made by Tekkub :D`
`01:32.11`	`Mikma`	`ZealotOnAStick: he likes the names with little kick in them`
`01:32.49`	`Mikma`	`but, http://mikma.reaktio.net/rabbit.jpg - i rest my case`
`01:32.55`	`Mikma`	`the best picture, ever.`
`01:33.46`	`Mikma`	`haste: yohoo?`
`01:33.56`	`CIA-17`	`03matini * r22152 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:`
`01:33.56`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`01:33.56`	`CIA-17`	`- Update zhTW locale for Zul'Farrak`
`01:35.18`	`Teomyr`	`speaking of locales`
`01:35.38`	`Teomyr`	`ckknight: cartographer's deDE localization for instance notes is out of date/wrong`
`01:35.57`	`ckknight`	`fix it`
`01:36.00`	`Mikma`	`ok, this picture is quite disturbing http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1167096443028.jpg`
`01:36.01`	`Teomyr`	`kk`
`01:36.06`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`01:36.08`	`Teomyr`	`ckknight: diff, then?`
`01:36.16`	`ckknight`	`either that or get an SVN account`
`01:36.38`	`Teomyr`	`okay`
`01:37.12`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r22153 10Skinner/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned GFW_FeedOMatic, Arena Frame; changed the way the GameTooltip & ItemRefTooltip are skinned; Improved the Battlefield Score Frame and added option for it`
`01:37.44`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r22154 10Bartender3/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`01:37.44`	`CIA-17`	`Bartender3:`
`01:37.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed typo and missing Translation string in options.lua on line 323`
`01:37.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed Typo in other Language Versions too`
`01:37.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Tweaked deDE Local`
`01:37.48`	`Kirkburn`	`Mikma, aaah, Andromeda Syndrome! The alien bugs are upon us!`
`01:38.07`	`Mikma`	`Kirkburn: :D`
`01:39.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Jesus 4chan is scary today`
`01:39.48`	`Azurewrath`	`Mikma: that is.. err.. weird.`
`01:40.10`	`Mikma`	`Azurewrath: told ya`
`01:40.30`	`Mikma`	`yeah /b especially is scary`
`01:40.40`	`Mikma`	`everyone is trying to get the hat to fit the pictures`
`01:40.55`	`Mikma`	`haste would love it if he would be online`
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`01:43.50`	`Mimesis`	`im curious, how often are the zips that winaceupdater uses, updated`
`01:44.22`	`Amadeo`	`every 20 minutes, I believe`
`01:44.42`	`Amadeo`	`on the hour, perhaps`
`01:47.02`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`is there a listing of X-Categories anywhere?`
`01:47.34`	`mupp`	`we need gambits in wow`
`01:47.35`	`mupp`	`meeeh!`
`01:49.48`	`Mimesis`	`strange`
`01:50.15`	`Mimesis`	`that update of skinner just broke eqcompare and is giving me an error each time a any tooltip is shown`
`01:51.34`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Joy`
`01:51.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`posted on it yet?`
`01:51.41`	`Mimesis`	`no`
`01:51.51`	`CIA-17`	`03matini * r22155 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`01:51.51`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`01:51.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Fix the zhTW locale in a TERRIBLE mess`
`01:54.34`	`ckknight`	`ZealotOnAStick: on the wiki`
`01:58.08`	`Mimesis`	`ugh how do i go about getting an old revision of an addon`
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`02:00.31`	`mjc`	`Mimesis: learn to use svn`
`02:00.40`	`Feldia`	`mimesis...... I know that name from somewhere`
`02:00.43`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r22156 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-koKR.lua: Click2Cast - Update locals koKR`
`02:01.22`	`Mimesis`	`id like to learn to use svn, couldnt see the option in tortoise`
`02:01.29`	`Mimesis`	`feldia: i play on korgath`
`02:01.30`	`mjc`	`use the command line`
`02:01.33`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ckknight - yeah, I found it after poking around a bit.`
`02:01.49`	`mjc`	`ckknight: how are you liking OSX`
`02:01.58`	`ckknight`	`mjc: I am finding it shiny`
`02:02.01`	`Feldia`	`are you in drama?`
`02:02.03`	`mjc`	`that it is`
`02:02.12`	`mjc`	`ckknight: www.growl.info`
`02:02.13`	`Mimesis`	`feldia: indeed`
`02:02.16`	`mjc`	`:)`
`02:02.18`	`Feldia`	`ahh I knew it`
`02:02.19`	`Feldia`	`from sh!`
`02:02.24`	`Mimesis`	`feldia: i play my rogue feint now`
`02:02.54`	`ckknight`	`mjc: thank you`
`02:02.57`	`mjc`	`ckknight: yep`
`02:03.02`	`mjc`	`ckknight: get macports up yet?`
`02:03.06`	`ckknight`	`no`
`02:03.08`	`ckknight`	`I installed fink`
`02:03.11`	`mjc`	`ew`
`02:04.08`	`mjc`	`http://refit.sourceforge.net/ is useful too`
`02:05.23`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r22157 10/branches/Voyeur/: Created folder remotely`
`02:05.51`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r22158 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder-koKR.lua:`
`02:05.51`	`CIA-17`	`SpellBinder:`
`02:05.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locals koKR`
`02:07.16`	`mjc`	`brb`
`02:09.08`	`CIA-17`	`03kirkburn * r22159 10ClearFont2/ClearFont2.toc: ClearFont2: Metadata update`
`02:09.34`	`*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-71-206-92-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`02:09.50`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r22160 10/branches/Voyeur/ (Voyeur.toc license.txt):`
`02:09.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Initial commit. gulp`
`02:09.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Nothing much here yet, just a .toc. Actual code to follow later.`
`02:10.09`	`ckknight`	`one thing Mac does better than Windows for me: force quitting WoW when it's run into an infinite loop`
`02:10.18`	`Azurewrath`	`~seen jncl`
`02:10.41`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'jncl', Azurewrath`
`02:10.50`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r22161 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua):`
`02:10.50`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`02:10.50`	`CIA-17`	`-Fixed Arcane Instability and added Arcane Power (hopefully).`
`02:17.37`	`*** join/#wowace gerber^Cavisty[A (n=Jon@c-71-200-85-204.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`02:18.38`	`*** join/#wowace Boobies4u (n=spank@ti511210a080-3121.bb.online.no)`
`02:18.39`	`Boobies4u`	`hey all`
`02:18.47`	`Gngsk`	`sup boobs`
`02:18.49`	`Boobies4u`	`is there an ace mod kinda like FeedPetButton?`
`02:19.06`	`Boobies4u`	`where you just put food in a "button", and you can just click it to feed the pet?`
`02:19.50`	Nargiddley`	`default ui does that now`
`02:20.53`	`Boobies4u`	`"how" ?`
`02:21.06`	`Boobies4u`	`do i need to activate something?`
`02:21.13`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r22162 10/branches/ (FuBar_LogFu.toc LogFu.lua LogFuLocals.lua):`
`02:21.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Initial commit`
`02:21.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for WoW 2.0.1, updated to AceHook 2.1, AceLocale 2.2, changes for API accordingly`
`02:21.13`	`CIA-17`	`- Living in branches until I hear back from etten`
`02:21.34`	Nargiddley`	`just put the food in a normal actionbutton`
`02:21.44`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`crap`
`02:21.45`	Nargiddley`	`can click on it when you have the glowing hand from clicking feed pet`
`02:21.57`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r22163 10/branches/ (FuBar_LogFu.toc LogFu.lua LogFuLocals.lua): Removed file/folder`
`02:22.00`	`Boobies4u`	`wont it just make my character eat it for gaining food?`
`02:22.14`	`Kirkburn`	`ZealotOnAStick, ?`
`02:22.17`	Nargiddley`	`ah, k misunderstood`
`02:22.23`	Nargiddley`	`not sure about that`
`02:22.36`	`Kirkburn`	Nargiddley`, you're right
`02:22.38`	Nargiddley`	`but if you have feed pet on a button as well, click that then the food will feed it`
`02:22.40`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r22164 10/branches/FuBar_LogFu/: Created folder remotely, since I'm a twit and tried to commit things to /branches before.`
`02:22.55`	Nargiddley`	`its not one step in the default ui`
`02:22.56`	`Kirkburn`	`CLick Feed Pet, then click the food`
`02:23.27`	`Kirkburn`	`ZealotOnAStick, oh lol`
`02:23.40`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick * r22165 10/branches/FuBar_LogFu/ (FuBar_LogFu.toc LogFu.lua LogFuLocals.lua):`
`02:23.40`	`CIA-17`	`- Initial commit`
`02:23.40`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated for WoW 2.0.1, updated to AceHook 2.1, AceLocale 2.2, changes for API accordingly`
`02:23.40`	`CIA-17`	`- Living in branches until I hear back from etten`
`02:24.13`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22166 10Ace2/ (AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua): Ace2 - fix bugs in AceOO-2.0 and AceDB-2.0 that made variables show up in SVs needlessly`
`02:24.20`	`ckknight`	ag`: fixed
`02:25.51`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22167 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - remove debug line`
`02:26.49`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick 07libs * r22168 10FuBar_LogFu/: Created folder remotely`
`02:28.12`	`Boobies4u`	`there was this feed button mod before, it was basicly just a square empty button like an actionbar button, you putted the dedicated food in it, and it was grayed out if the pet did not need food, and when it needed food, you just simgle clicked it to feed it`
`02:28.23`	`Boobies4u`	`could also set like, happynes treshhold etc`
`02:29.34`	`Boobies4u`	`i miss that mod :(`
`02:30.46`	`Boobies4u`	`il hire one of you to rewrite such a mod :P`
`02:30.56`	`Boobies4u`	`give me your paypal and il transfer some dollar`
`02:30.58`	`de\|kip`	`is there a ace2 based KoS Addon?`
`02:31.39`	`Boobies4u`	`ckknight`
`02:31.44`	`Boobies4u`	`let me rent you to write such mod`
`02:31.54`	`ckknight`	`I'm not cheap`
`02:32.04`	`Saroz`	`such a lie`
`02:32.24`	`ckknight`	`$20/hr`
`02:32.31`	`ckknight`	`granted, I can see myself having it done in 1 hour`
`02:32.46`	`Boobies4u`	`ok`
`02:32.52`	`Boobies4u`	`if you are serious.`
`02:32.57`	`ckknight`	`no guarantees on that, though`
`02:33.01`	`ckknight`	`yea, I seems like a good mod`
`02:33.06`	`ckknight`	`and I have expenses`
`02:33.29`	`Xogxog`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:33.31`	`Xogxog`	`;P`
`02:33.34`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`02:33.40`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna keep tinkering on what I'm doing now, though`
`02:33.50`	`ckknight`	`I'll get to your mod in a bit`
`02:34.20`	`Boobies4u`	`but i dont want if its gonna cost me like 50 dollar`
`02:34.28`	`ckknight`	`it won't`
`02:34.43`	`Boobies4u`	`like, then i might aswell mouseclick twice instead :P`
`02:34.44`	`Boobies4u`	`haha`
`02:36.51`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22169 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - now updates minimap position on profile change`
`02:38.07`	`Gnarfoz_`	`~seen tem`
`02:38.27`	`purl`	`tem <n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 11h 52m 7s ago, saying: '1x[asston]'.`
`02:38.28`	`Kirkburn`	`ping Tekkub`
`02:38.52`	`ckknight`	`Boobies4u: name of the mod?`
`02:39.08`	`Boobies4u`	`the original?`
`02:39.20`	`ckknight`	`no, the new one`
`02:39.42`	`Boobies4u`	`Boobies4u brings you imba ez mode hunter feed button by renting ze pro dev`
`02:40.11`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`02:40.17`	`ckknight`	`I'll call it DogChow for now`
`02:40.18`	`Kirkburn`	`nv, Tekkub, have PMd you`
`02:40.25`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm off to bed, g'night all!`
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`02:41.37`	`Mimesis`	`cant you make a macro`
`02:41.51`	`Mimesis`	`to cast feed pet, then /use the food of choice`
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`02:44.50`	`Boobies4u`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=774`
`02:44.57`	`CIA-17`	`03flutia * r22170 10MainAssist/MainAssist_koKR.lua:`
`02:44.57`	`CIA-17`	`MainAssist:`
`02:44.57`	`CIA-17`	`- update koKR for 2.4`
`02:44.59`	`Boobies4u`	`there is like a mod im talking about`
`02:45.06`	`Boobies4u`	`but was stopped developing long ago`
`02:45.16`	`CIA-17`	`03zealotonastick 07libs * r22171 10FuBar_LogFu/: - Set externals (I hope)`
`02:45.21`	`Boobies4u`	`but like`
`02:45.26`	`Boobies4u`	`does autobar support this now?`
`02:45.28`	`Boobies4u`	`somone said so`
`02:45.29`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`that's not going to work right, is it?`
`02:45.53`	`ckknight`	`I'll make it work`
`02:46.14`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I think I have "libs" as a branch . . . how do I fix it?`
`02:46.58`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`exporting it works ok, though . . .`
`02:48.14`	Nargiddley`	`in branches, it should look like branches/ModName/BranchName/ModName/ModName.toc`
`02:48.28`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r22172 10Fence/modules/ (6 files):`
`02:48.28`	`CIA-17`	`Fence:`
`02:48.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Added check to prevent modules from double loading.`
`02:48.56`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I think I would have wanted to create the libs folder locally, empty, and imported or commited that, then set externals after a checkout?`
`02:51.04`	`Boobies4u`	`ckknight, can i whisper you some deep requests on the mod`
`02:51.06`	`Boobies4u`	`the pet feed mod`
`02:51.12`	`ckknight`	`sure`
`02:54.25`	`Q6`	`anyone use e107?`
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`03:02.06`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten 07Ace2 * r22173 10KC_Items/KC_Items/Fence/:`
`03:02.06`	`CIA-17`	`KC_Items (Ace 2) -`
`03:02.07`	`CIA-17`	`- Adding Fence Stub`
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`03:32.32`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten * r22174 10Fence/Core.lua:`
`03:32.32`	`CIA-17`	`Fence:`
`03:32.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Stops duplicate loading`
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`03:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten 07Ace2 * r22175 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (AuctionSpy/AuctionSpy.lua Fence/Core.lua KC_Items.toc libs/):`
`03:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`KC_Items (Ace 2) -`
`03:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`- More Libs (yay!)`
`03:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Change size of AuctionSpy frame`
`03:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Embedded Fence (Thanks Neriak!)`
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`03:56.51`	`ggilbert_`	`k. Mailfu is awesome`
`03:57.04`	`Benumbed`	`chea`
`04:01.34`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r22176 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua:`
`04:01.34`	`CIA-17`	`WitchHunt :`
`04:01.34`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
`04:01.57`	`ckknight`	`back`
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`04:04.23`	`Boobies4u`	`guys`
`04:04.24`	`Boobies4u`	`huge problem`
`04:04.35`	`ckknight`	`oh?`
`04:05.11`	`Boobies4u`	`i right click my pet frame, and like`
`04:05.11`	`Boobies4u`	`to dismiss`
`04:05.11`	`Boobies4u`	`and i get the screen about blizzard ui bla bla disable ignore`
`04:05.11`	`ckknight`	`Boobies4u: that's fixed in the next patch`
`04:05.11`	`Boobies4u`	`how can i dismiss pet then?`
`04:05.22`	`Boobies4u`	`kill it? heh`
`04:05.46`	`ckknight`	`um, not sure`
`04:06.21`	`Boobies4u`	`is there like a /script command for it?`
`04:07.16`	`kebinusan`	`no`
`04:07.24`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:07.29`	`ckknight`	`but I'm not sure that'd work`
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`04:07.47`	`kebinusan`	`you can do /cast pet dismiss or something if you're a hunter, but locks are screwed`
`04:09.07`	`TheKarn`	`locks can start summoning another pet then cancel the cast`
`04:09.13`	`kebinusan`	`no`
`04:09.15`	`Boobies4u`	`no`
`04:09.22`	`Boobies4u`	`cause pet is not dismissed before the new pet IS summoned now`
`04:09.29`	`TheKarn`	`oh bollocks`
`04:09.30`	`Feidan`	`summon a vw and sacrifice it then`
`04:09.31`	`TheKarn`	`ah well`
`04:09.32`	`TheKarn`	`bet for me`
`04:09.38`	`TheKarn`	`bed*`
`04:10.10`	`TheKarn`	`nn all`
`04:10.58`	`Tain`	`Boobies4u? I'm pretty sure that's in my email spam filter.`
`04:13.51`	`Health`	`http://85.230.24.178/img/rig.jpg`
`04:14.07`	`Neebler`	`I approve`
`04:14.43`	`Neebler`	`your UI has too much chat however`
`04:15.06`	`Health`	`nah!`
`04:15.24`	`Neebler`	`yah!`
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`04:17.11`	`Xogxog`	`Weird.. got a few 'units' in Grid that I can't target.`
`04:17.53`	`Health`	`Hmm. I can't abandon quests... related to Skinner maybe?`
`04:20.28`	`Tain`	`Way too much chat!`
`04:20.58`	`Health`	`3 rows of chat!?`
`04:21.00`	`Health`	`combat log, regular chat and alliance chat (3 raiding guilds raiding)`
`04:21.04`	`Tain`	`All chat should be on the second screen.`
`04:21.18`	`Tain`	`Except for anything you feel you need to see immediately.`
`04:21.55`	`Health`	`Not sure how to set up WoW for dual screen :p`
`04:21.57`	`Tain`	`Oh that's irc or something over there isn' tit`
`04:22.13`	`Tain`	`I looked quick.`
`04:22.16`	`Health`	`Yeah, irssi through putty`
`04:22.44`	`Neebler`	`http://neebler.tetro.net/christmasUI.jpg`
`04:22.45`	`Neebler`	`blech`
`04:23.26`	`Tain`	`3 chat windows, for me, is too much. I have mine, for example, with chat windows on the left and right like yours, but instead of the middle chat window all of my action buttons are bottom center.`
`04:23.46`	`Health`	`Yeah, but as I'm in an alliance I have an extra "guild" channel`
`04:23.59`	`Health`	`healing channel and alliance channel there`
`04:24.44`	`Tain`	`Just different ways to do it. I don't mind having multiple channels in each window, I recognize them more by the color I assign to each.`
`04:25.21`	`Health`	`Yeah, I have different colors too. In TBC I think we don't need the alliance anylonger.. so I can trash that :p`
`04:25.38`	`Tain`	`On the other hand I've never had to participate in a class channel that served any real purpose other than to bitch about the other classes. :)`
`04:26.08`	`Health`	`Hehe, we have heal assignments and stuff there :P`
`04:26.21`	`Tain`	`I'm sure that's all important!`
`04:26.46`	`Health`	`But of course!`
`04:26.46`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten 07Ace2 * r22177 10KC_Items/KC_Items/KC_Items.lua:`
`04:26.46`	`CIA-17`	`KC_Items (Ace 2) -`
`04:26.47`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed some unneeded code`
`04:27.00`	`Tain`	`I play a Rogue. I barely get healed.`
`04:27.34`	`Health`	`You get a renew at least!`
`04:27.48`	`Tain`	`I go through a lot of bandages.`
`04:27.52`	`Health`	`Mine do ~500 per tick!`
`04:28.23`	`Health`	`I love playing in 1680x1060!`
`04:28.26`	`Health`	`Bought it today`
`04:28.26`	`Tain`	`I mostly just hope to live through each bandage refresh cooldown`
`04:29.59`	`Health`	`I think I PvP too much.. almost 100 of each mark type now`
`04:30.37`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22178 10DogChow/ (. DogChow.lua DogChow.toc Libs/):`
`04:30.37`	`CIA-17`	`DogChow - initial import`
`04:30.37`	`CIA-17`	`Makes a button that you can drag food into that when pressed, will be fed to your pet. Disables when your pet is happy`
`04:35.46`	`mjc`	`nice`
`04:36.37`	`Kaelten`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:37.19`	`ckknight`	`meh`
`04:37.28`	`ckknight`	`I was considering BachelorChow for a while`
`04:37.38`	`ckknight`	`but it's what popped into my head first`
`04:37.45`	`Kaelten`	`NoobChow`
`04:37.55`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`04:38.17`	`kebinusan`	`heh I love futurama`
`04:38.22`	`kebinusan`	`~hypnotoad`
`04:38.28`	`purl`	`All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP.`
`04:39.47`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`04:40.06`	`Tain`	`Call it, "RamenNoodles"`
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`04:41.56`	`Tain`	`So just when I think reality can't get any stranger, US music publishers are suing AllofMP3.com for copyright violations citing $155,000 for each violation.`
`04:42.31`	`Tain`	`So every single MP3 that someone bought from them was worth one hundred fifty-five thousand dollars.`
`04:43.49`	`xgravix`	`how can US music publishers sue a Russian company`
`04:43.49`	`Neebler`	`disgusting`
`04:44.37`	`Tain`	`I'm not even to the logic yet of how cross-national lawsuits work.`
`04:44.51`	`Tain`	`$155k for a single song?`
`04:45.24`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`04:45.33`	`ckknight`	`well, in Russia, that's only a few Rubles`
`04:45.38`	`ckknight`	`it's all relative, Tain`
`04:45.50`	`Boobies4u`	`ckknight is earning big bucks from hunters`
`04:45.56`	`ckknight`	`it's true`
`04:46.21`	`Tain`	`Sure, I can see where say one Nirvana song is worth 20 TaTu songs.`
`04:46.50`	`Tain`	`But even taking the exchange rate into account it seems a bit... obsessive.`
`04:46.56`	`Tain`	`Or excessive.`
`04:47.02`	`Tain`	`Or both.`
`04:50.36`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r22179 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua:`
`04:50.36`	`CIA-17`	`WitchHunt`
`04:50.36`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR (Typo fix)`
`04:51.43`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r22180 10FuBar_ShardCountFu/ (FuBar_ShardCountFu.toc ShardCountFuLocale-koKR.lua):`
`04:51.43`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_ShardCountFu:`
`04:51.43`	`CIA-17`	`- Add locale koKR`
`04:52.08`	`xgravix`	`they just use big numbers so they can inflate their figure of how much music piracy costs them`
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`04:52.30`	`xgravix`	`i doubt they will see any money since all they can do is seize assests allofmp3 has in the USA`
`04:54.26`	`Tain`	`The problem is the Russian government supposedly wants help from the US in other areas, so can be pressured into acting against certain things.`
`04:55.32`	`Tain`	`And as much as I think it's an absolutely insane idea that the Recording Industry of America could possibly have enough influence to get the government to do something on their behalf, I think it's definitely feasable.`
`05:03.18`	`Boobies4u`	`is it possible to see the "pet happyness" icon on the pet frame with AG UF?`
`05:06.09`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22181 10DogChow/DogChow.lua: DogChow - added scaling. Use the Mousewheel`
`05:06.26`	`ckknight`	`Boobies4u: pretty sure...`
`05:06.35`	`ckknight`	`Boobies4u: for me, it colors their health bar :-)`
`05:06.45`	`ckknight`	`so green is happy, yellow is normal, red is angry`
`05:07.33`	`Boobies4u`	`ah`
`05:08.36`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22182 10DogChow/DogChow.lua: DogChow - now scales exponentially instead of linearly (looks nicer)`
`05:09.50`	`cynyr`	`is there an addon for putting consubables on weapons?`
`05:10.01`	vid`	`dogchow?`
`05:10.02`	vid`	`wtf is tha`
`05:10.02`	vid`	`thehe`
`05:10.02`	`cynyr`	`like poisons`
`05:10.39`	`cynyr`	`so i don't have to open my bag and char to do it`
`05:11.40`	`cynyr`	`Tain: that 155K is the max allowed by US copyright law as damages per infringment`
`05:12.03`	`xgravix`	`do your part folks`
`05:12.12`	`xgravix`	`never buy cds from RIAA labels`
`05:14.08`	`cynyr`	`couldn't afford to if i wanted to :P`
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`05:32.25`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22183 10DogChow/DogChow.lua: DogChow - can now drag food off of it.`
`05:33.55`	`Gnarfoz_`	`Tem: would you mind if I commit this to FinderReminder? http://ace.pastey.net/4001 <-- stops the window from showing when you release from the body to a ghost`
`05:34.22`	`Tem`	`oh lol.... I've had that fix in locally for ages`
`05:34.26`	`Tem`	`sorry ><`
`05:34.45`	`Gnarfoz_`	`commit whatever your local version is, then ^^`
`05:34.55`	`Tem`	`my local version is borked, iirc`
`05:35.00`	`Tem`	`been a week or so since I loaded up wow`
`05:35.05`	`Tem`	`gimme a sec`
`05:37.17`	`CIA-17`	`03tardmrr * r22184 10FinderReminder/FinderReminder.lua: FinderReminder: Some long overdue fixes to the popup showing up while a ghost.`
`05:37.55`	`Tem`	`I was in the process of making it be a trackingmenu addon as well`
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`05:38.16`	`Tem`	`but I need features of the state header that aren't in until 2.0.3`
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`06:07.07`	`Health`	`Hmm. Any idea why skills at trainers, tradeskills and simular all just says "..."`
`06:07.14`	`Health`	`ClearFont2 related?`
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`06:11.46`	`ZOAS\|away`	`It's a font/scaling issue.`
`06:12.06`	`Health`	`I have no scaling active I think`
`06:12.47`	`navv`	`at some point, if that appeared, you had to adjust your "ui scale" in video options`
`06:12.57`	`Health`	`It's disabled`
`06:12.58`	`navv`	`which fixed it, i dont know if the bug (afaik it's in the blizzard client itself) is still there`
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`06:13.01`	`navv`	`yes`
`06:13.16`	`navv`	`but you have to enable it and set it to something, at least in my case, your mileage may vary`
`06:15.17`	`Health`	`Didn't solve it :/`
`06:15.32`	`Health`	`I'll try to play around with it tho`
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`06:16.11`	`navv`	`did you console reloadui after`
`06:16.25`	`Health`	`No, but I noticed that the scaling changed... need to reload even tho?`
`06:16.51`	`navv`	`im not sure, i dont recall what i did other than adjusting the scale smaller, and then the tradeskill windows etc had the text again`
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`06:31.17`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22185 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - shows yards away on notes now. (Or meters away for you Frenchies)`
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`06:35.14`	`Jaxon`	`Have oCD and oCB disappeared from the svn?`
`06:35.49`	`Kaelten`	`Jaxon: yes`
`06:35.57`	`Jaxon`	`Oh, why? :(`
`06:37.14`	`ckknight`	`because you touch yourself at night`
`06:37.19`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`06:37.31`	`DrZoot`	`damn, lots of stuff is going to start disapeering then`
`06:37.33`	`ckknight`	`actually, haste took em off for his own reasons`
`06:37.39`	`ckknight`	`lol, DrZoot`
`06:37.39`	`Jaxon`	`Well, I've been doing that for a long time but the addons only disappeared recently.`
`06:37.44`	`DrZoot`	`:D`
`06:37.45`	`Codayus`	`I believe he was upset that someone was commiting changes to his addons despite him asking people not to.`
`06:38.00`	`Jaxon`	`Ooh, I can understand that.`
`06:38.15`	`Codayus`	`Or so I heard third or fourth hand, anyhow. <shrug>`
`06:38.33`	`DrZoot`	`I thought that sort of thing could be prevented by locking a directory down?`
`06:38.37`	`Codayus`	`It can.`
`06:38.39`	`ckknight`	`yes, it can`
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`06:38.58`	`ckknight`	`imposter tekkub!`
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`06:39.10`	`Codayus`	`He decided to remove the addons rather than request a permision change to prevent it. <shrug> No idea about details.`
`06:39.19`	`ckknight`	`</>`
`06:39.19`	`Jaxon`	`I just found the post now.`
`06:39.25`	`ckknight`	`remember to close tags, Codayus`
`06:39.30`	`Codayus`	`Heh`
`06:40.05`	`Codayus`	`s/shrug/shrug\//`
`06:40.10`	`Codayus`	`:-)`
`06:41.44`	`Dekuna`	`i don't know, i think i'd be pissed about it too`
`06:42.15`	`Dekuna`	`maybe they'll get put back up, who knows`
`06:42.26`	`ckknight`	`the problem with haste is that his mods are both simple and interesting`
`06:42.32`	`ckknight`	`so people will edit them`
`06:42.38`	`ckknight`	`example: oSkin/Skinner`
`06:42.42`	`Codayus`	`Heh`
`06:42.42`	`Dekuna`	`yeah`
`06:42.50`	`Codayus`	`That's a particularly good example.`
`06:42.54`	`ckknight`	`he should be more like me, my mods are interesting, but not simple`
`06:43.04`	`ckknight`	`at least to edit the code itself`
`06:43.04`	vid`	`thats an understatement`
`06:43.11`	`ckknight`	`I allow for things to be built on top of it`
`06:43.12`	`Codayus`	`Went from "interesting idea" to a "resistance is futile" borg mod in record time.`
`06:43.15`	`ckknight`	`but not inside it :-P`
`06:43.15`	`Tekkub`	`what's the new TOC in TBC?`
`06:43.18`	`Tekkub`	`20003?`
`06:43.21`	`ckknight`	`20003.`
`06:43.22`	`Dekuna`	`jncl-abomination`
`06:43.40`	`Dekuna`	`was is Mikma who renamed it that? haha`
`06:43.43`	vid`	`200-ohforgetityourmodsarefucked`
`06:43.47`	`Dekuna`	`s/is/it//`
`06:44.06`	`ckknight`	`Dekuna: nah, jncl`
`06:44.12`	`ckknight`	`I dunno`
`06:44.51`	`Dekuna`	`jncl actually renamed Skinner jncl-abomination? i thought Mikma did it and then he changed it back`
`06:45.07`	`ckknight`	`ah, that's be Mikma`
`06:45.08`	`ckknight`	`right`
`06:45.14`	`Dekuna`	`hahaha`
`06:45.19`	`Jaxon`	`Well, can anyone recommend a replacement for oCD that'll work without having the buttons visible on the screen?`
`06:45.45`	`ckknight`	`Codayus: mmm... there are exceptions`
`06:46.04`	`Codayus`	`Heh, it was a joke. I just find the name jncl-abomination amusing. :-)`
`06:46.12`	`Dekuna`	`Jaxon: the version i have that was up before haste took it down works fine, not sure what you mean about buttons`
`06:46.31`	`Dekuna`	`Codayus: that's because it was hilarious`
`06:46.37`	`Jaxon`	`Dekuna: it works, but if your action bars aren't visible on the screen, it can't hook the cooldown display.`
`06:46.42`	`Dekuna`	`hmm`
`06:47.02`	`Codayus`	`Dekuna: It seems to work a bit oddly with bartender3 and bar swapping. It creates timers more-or-less correctly, but with the wrong name.`
`06:47.15`	`Dekuna`	`ahh, ic`
`06:47.23`	`ckknight`	`I have a sneaking suspicion!`
`06:47.24`	`Codayus`	`That is, it tries to work out what spell is now cooling down, but looks in the wrong slot.`
`06:47.42`	`ckknight`	`what if you put both Interface: 20000 and Interface: 20003 in the same TOC file?`
`06:47.45`	`ckknight`	`will it work on both?`
`06:48.14`	`Dekuna`	`no idea`
`06:48.24`	`Dekuna`	`it would probably break something, haha`
`06:48.24`	`Codayus`	`Shouldn't a 20000 interface work but show up as out of date on a 20003 client?`
`06:48.30`	`Dekuna`	`yes`
`06:48.33`	`ckknight`	`yes, Codayus`
`06:48.35`	`Codayus`	`Ah, good.`
`06:48.39`	`Dekuna`	`it wouldn't be incompatible`
`06:48.59`	`Jaxon`	`You wouldn't need 20000`
`06:49.08`	`Jaxon`	`Once TBC releases, ALL clients get updated to 200003`
`06:49.12`	`Jaxon`	`Err, 20003`
`06:49.17`	`ckknight`	`Jaxon: but until then...`
`06:49.27`	`CIA-17`	`03quetz * r22186 10FelwoodFarmer/FelwoodFarmer.lua:`
`06:49.27`	`CIA-17`	`FelwoodFarmer:`
`06:49.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Will now replace missing map notes.`
`06:49.28`	`CIA-17`	`- More code cleanup`
`06:49.36`	`Dekuna`	`having mods that work for both live and beta is nice`
`06:49.37`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`so where do we go to get ocb updates now? any other haste mods i need to chase down?`
`06:49.50`	`Dekuna`	`you can't get any, afaik`
`06:50.18`	`Codayus`	`I think haste has is modse here now: http://fuxsake.net/`
`06:50.18`	`Health`	`haste gave up on it?`
`06:50.21`	`Jaxon`	`What are the major changes between 20000 and 20003? Just load out of date addons in your TBC install.`
`06:50.26`	`CIA-17`	`03kaelten 07Ace2 * r22187 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (AuctionSpy/AuctionSpy.lua KC_Items.lua):`
`06:50.26`	`CIA-17`	`KC_Items (Ace 2) -`
`06:50.26`	`CIA-17`	`- Added first edition of the config panel`
`06:50.31`	`ckknight`	`Jaxon: state header stuff`
`06:50.42`	`Health`	`What's up with haste?`
`06:50.57`	`Dekuna`	`Codayus: thanks for the link`
`06:51.03`	`DrZoot`	`Is there a way to make a link to a table, c style? i want a local var that references a given table`
`06:51.22`	`ckknight`	`DrZoot: yea, tables are references.`
`06:51.48`	`ckknight`	`local alpha = {}; local bravo = alpha; bravo.monkey = 'poo'; assert(alpha.monkey == 'poo')`
`06:53.10`	`DrZoot`	`ckknight: ok, cheers. Really got to finish reading my lua books`
`06:53.35`	`ckknight`	`well, I'm chock full of knowledge ;-)`
`06:53.53`	`Jaxon`	`Reading is for suckers, just dive right in and when you mess things up, get other people to fix it.`
`06:53.58`	`ckknight`	`okay, my sneaking suspicion about the multiple Interface lines was wrong, the second one is always used`
`06:54.18`	`ckknight`	`Jaxon: I read the lua PIL and such (not understanding all of it`
`06:54.21`	`ckknight`	`)`
`06:54.30`	`ckknight`	`and then I pretty much dove in headfirst with FuBabr`
`06:54.32`	`ckknight`	`FuBar*`
`06:55.01`	`Health`	`ckknight: I played around abit with the UI scale, now fubar is a bit short... how do I make it full the screen again? p`
`06:55.08`	`ckknight`	`Health: drag the edge.`
`06:55.19`	`Health`	`Smaert!`
`06:55.22`	`Health`	`Thanks.`
`06:55.30`	`Health`	`I'm stoopid`
`06:55.36`	`ckknight`	`Smärt!`
`06:56.01`	`Health`	`my irc client doesn't decode utf-8 :(`
`06:56.07`	`ckknight`	`get one that does.`
`06:56.14`	`Jaxon`	`Like irssi`
`06:56.19`	`Health`	`I use irssi`
`06:56.23`	`ckknight`	`or any modern one.`
`06:56.26`	`Health`	`didn't set it up for utf-8`
`06:56.31`	`ckknight`	`set it up for UTF-8`
`06:56.45`	`Health`	`I actually work with alot of utf-8 stuff!`
`06:56.48`	`Jaxon`	`irssi supports it without any setup, maybe your terminal doesn't. What are you using.`
`06:56.57`	`Health`	`putty does`
`06:57.15`	`Jaxon`	`putty acts strange, especially when you are pointing it towards screen`
`06:57.22`	`Health`	`Yeah`
`06:57.24`	`Jaxon`	`I've found that GNU screen and putty don't play nice.`
`06:57.25`	`Health`	`http://jerakeen.org/blog/2005/06/23/screen-irssi-utf8/`
`06:57.38`	`Codayus`	`Jaxon: Really? Never had any issues...`
`06:57.54`	`Jaxon`	`Codayus: using normal terminal stuff is fine, but curses based apps get funky.`
`06:58.15`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r22188 10DrDamage/ (5 files):`
`06:58.15`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`06:58.15`	`CIA-17`	`-Added shaman spells/talents. Added healing buffs/debuffs. Added more info to tooltips (DPS with CD etc).`
`06:58.39`	`Health`	`Bah, still a bunch of things that just show up as dots :(`
`06:59.09`	`Jaxon`	`Do they show up as dots when you aren't using putty?`
`06:59.19`	`Health`	`As in the WoW-client :p`
`06:59.52`	`Jaxon`	`I mean, when your screen is anchored in xterm, aterm, a standard tty or something else.`
`07:02.04`	`Health`	`The dots are in wow`
`07:02.31`	`Health`	`http://85.230.24.178/img/dot.jpg`
`07:03.37`	`Jaxon`	`And I thought we were still talking about putty displaying different than other rxvt based terminals.`
`07:03.39`	`Dekuna`	`i had that issue for a long time in beta, could never figure out what was causing it`
`07:04.36`	`ckknight`	`Health: ClearFont issue?`
`07:04.40`	`Health`	`Might be`
`07:04.48`	`Dekuna`	`using ClearFont2?`
`07:05.02`	`Health`	`Yes`
`07:05.25`	`Dekuna`	`i'm using that in beta now, but the problem went away when i updated a bunch of mods`
`07:07.23`	`Health`	`I think it just started appearing`
`07:07.28`	`Health`	`Neved had it before..`
`07:07.49`	`Jaxon`	`Well, the game will display "..." when the text is too big for the frame it is in.`
`07:08.17`	`Health`	`Yeah..`
`07:08.40`	`Health`	`ClearFont2 + Skinner issue maybe?`
`07:09.40`	`ckknight`	`very well could be`
`07:10.06`	`Dekuna`	`i guess try disabling things until it fixes itself, hahaha`
`07:10.51`	`Jaxon`	`Thats why I like using small functioning addons that don't have a lot of cross-over features, so in the odd chance I do have an interface problem, I don't have to disable one addon at a time to figure it out.`
`07:12.02`	`DrZoot`	`does os.time() work in wow?`
`07:13.28`	`Kaelten`	`DrZoot: no but time() does`
`07:13.32`	`Kaelten`	`I think its the same thing`
`07:14.24`	`DrZoot`	`Cheers Ill just use that`
`07:16.23`	`Boobies4u`	`ckknight`
`07:16.32`	`Boobies4u`	`DogChow ftw`
`07:16.40`	`ckknight`	`yay`
`07:16.52`	`ckknight`	`DrZoot: use time() or GetTime()`
`07:17.04`	`ckknight`	`GetTime() gets milliseconds, but can only track up to a week or so`
`07:17.20`	`Boobies4u`	`ckknight, just add ALL the non-eatable-for-character food to it aswell :P`
`07:17.23`	`ckknight`	`time() can track from 1970 to 2038 but only gets seconds`
`07:17.30`	`ckknight`	`Boobies4u: been trying :-(`
`07:17.37`	`Barbanus`	`What is DogChow`
`07:17.47`	`ckknight`	`Baraius: hunter petfeed dealy`
`07:18.05`	`Barbanus`	`ahhh duhh`
`07:18.08`	`Boobies4u`	`same as hunter feed button`
`07:18.13`	`Barbanus`	`If I used my brain, I could of figured it out`
`07:18.15`	`ckknight`	`you drag food to the button`
`07:18.22`	`Barbanus`	`But alas .. too much beer today`
`07:18.23`	`ckknight`	`click it when your pet needs food`
`07:18.28`	`ckknight`	`it disables when your pet is happy`
`07:18.33`	`ckknight`	`and turns gray`
`07:18.46`	`Jaxon`	`I've always used GFW's Feed-o-Matic. Alerts for pet hunger and binding to feed.`
`07:18.49`	`ckknight`	`it'd be a lot simpler if I didn't have to use the 2.0 system :-P`
`07:19.12`	`Barbanus`	`heh`
`07:19.28`	`Barbanus`	`Isnt like some weird pet functions secured right now?`
`07:19.39`	`Barbanus`	`Maybe thats call pet/dismit pet`
`07:19.44`	`ckknight`	`yea, Baraius`
`07:19.47`	`ckknight`	`Barbanus*`
`07:20.27`	`*** part/#wowace Jaxon (n=jackson@S01060060083b4430.ed.shawcable.net)`
`07:21.51`	`Boobies4u`	`and soon DogChow will have an option to show "Feed your pet!" in Scrolling combat text Message frame, when the pet needs food`
`07:22.20`	`Dekuna`	`hmm, Skinner's recent update is throwing huge amounts of errors through EQCompare :/`
`07:22.22`	`ckknight`	`Boobies4u: busy`
`07:23.06`	`Boobies4u`	`ckknight, not right now :P some day :P`
`07:23.23`	`ckknight`	`right`
`07:24.03`	`Dekuna`	`[2006/12/26 01:16:44-88-x23]: EQCompare-1.4\EQCompare.lua:183: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)`
`07:24.03`	`Dekuna`	`(tail call): ?:`
`07:24.03`	`Dekuna`	`Skinner-2.0\UIElements1.lua:9: in function <Interface\AddOns\Skinner\UIElements1.lua:7>`
`07:24.03`	`Dekuna`	`(tail call): ?:`
`07:26.33`	`ckknight`	`lol: "im in ur crusadz, steelin ur light"`
`07:27.29`	`Dekuna`	`it looks like skinner is screwing with tooltips so that EQcompare can't call anything`
`07:27.34`	`CIA-17`	`03maudy * r22189 10ClassColors/ (. ClassColors.lua ClassColors.toc):`
`07:27.34`	`CIA-17`	`ClassColors: initial commit`
`07:27.34`	`CIA-17`	`- This mod allows you to customize the colors for any class by manipulating the RAID_CLASS_COLORS array. Some mods may require a /reloadui before picking up the newly set values.`
`07:27.49`	`Boobies4u`	`Dekuna, just use DogChow instead`
`07:27.52`	`Dekuna`	`i'm still a lua noob, but both of those lines deal with calling a tooltip`
`07:27.52`	`Boobies4u`	`its all you ever need`
`07:27.55`	`Dekuna`	`lawl`
`07:27.59`	`Health`	`Without ClearFont2 it works`
`07:28.03`	`Dekuna`	`i'm a druid! dog food is gross :(`
`07:28.38`	`Boobies4u`	`bbl, time to znore on the pillow`
`07:28.40`	`ckknight`	`Dekuna: cats can eat dog food sometimes`
`07:28.59`	`Dekuna`	`ckknight: i guess so. i'm mostly a tree these days though`
`07:29.15`	`ckknight`	`Dekuna, ah. and trees only drink brandy`
`07:30.25`	`Dekuna`	`exactly`
`07:31.09`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22190 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua: .AceTab-2.0 - now use IsSecureCmd to check if a slash command is secure`
`07:31.45`	`Health`	`Ah well. ClearFont2 is the issue it seems. Without it, it works...`
`07:32.11`	`Health`	`Even frames that does ahve enough room seems to get the text cut`
`07:32.16`	`ckknight`	`odd`
`07:32.30`	`Health`	`As the trade skill tab thingy`
`07:32.33`	`ckknight`	`Health: maybe just use a different font?`
`07:33.09`	`Health`	`I use the default one`
`07:34.44`	`Dekuna`	`Calibri_v1?`
`07:34.49`	`Health`	`Yeah`
`07:34.55`	`Dekuna`	`i'm using that with no problems, i wonder what's causing it`
`07:35.36`	`Health`	`I neved had probs too... I did start using a new monitor + resulotion today tho`
`07:35.38`	`Health`	`spelling ftw`
`07:36.31`	`Health`	`resolution!`
`07:39.20`	`Health`	`Hmm... the string should be cut of at where it is about to cross the frame border, right? It's as if the frame is no size as it just adds the ...`
`07:41.33`	`Health`	`If I set the font size to 96% it works tho`
`07:48.33`	`ckknight`	`meh, so use 96%`
`07:48.51`	`Health`	`I just noticed that, so I use 96% now :)`
`07:49.32`	`Health`	`I need some sleep I think - 9 am`
`07:51.47`	`Health`	`The battleground screen looks fucked in 96% yho`
`07:52.06`	`Health`	`worked better after restart`
`07:54.48`	`*** join/#wowace Navv (i=d3e3d016@a88-115-99-143.elisa-laajakaista.fi)`
`07:56.24`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r22191 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua):`
`07:56.24`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`07:56.24`	`CIA-17`	`-Improved guesstimation of penalty on lower rank heals`
`07:56.45`	`Health`	`I hate hunters.`
`07:57.10`	`CIA-17`	`03maudy * r22192 10ClassColors/ClassColors.toc: ClassColors: Updated TOC to include metadata`
`07:59.37`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r22193 10FelwoodFarmer/localisation.koKR.lua: FelwoodFarmer: UTF-8 file Converted (localisation.koKR.lua)`
`08:01.10`	`CIA-17`	`03nirek * r22194 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: Add more data`
`08:06.36`	`jaete`	`gagorian, where are your mage spell coefficients from? like for frost nova, 0.2 * 1/3?`
`08:06.56`	`jaete`	`and sFactor= 0.95 * 1/3 for cone of cold... where's the 1.5/3.5?`
`08:07.33`	`jaete`	`see here: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9593`
`08:08.00`	`jaete`	`note that i don't exactly know the correct ones, haven't had time to do much testing. just wondering`
`08:09.39`	`Gagorian`	`Well, that's just a factor added to the normal ones`
`08:09.44`	`Gagorian`	`ie cast time, dot, whatever`
`08:09.50`	`Gagorian`	`Done automatically`
`08:09.57`	`jaete`	`also i'm not at all sure how downranking works with damage spells, where'd you get those from? :]`
`08:10.16`	`Gagorian`	`experimental, derived from what drysc said at some point`
`08:10.30`	`Gagorian`	`but seems to work`
`08:10.34`	`Gagorian`	`~somehow`
`08:11.11`	`Gagorian`	`cone of cold is 1/3 for aoe and 0.95 for slow.. That's what they usually are`
`08:11.19`	`jaete`	`why would say arcane explosion's coef be 1/3 instead of 1.5/3.5 * 1/3?`
`08:11.30`	`Gagorian`	`I just said it`
`08:11.36`	`Gagorian`	`[10:13:10] <Gagorian> Well, that's just a factor added to the normal ones`
`08:11.42`	`jaete`	`cone of cold = 1.5 sec cast time, so should be 1.5/3.5 coef, except it's aoe -> that times 1/3 , and it has a snare -> that times 0.`
`08:11.47`	`jaete`	`*0.95`
`08:12.00`	`jaete`	`ah yes, quite`
`08:12.18`	`jaete`	`meh ignore me then :p`
`08:12.24`	`Gagorian`	`:D`
`08:12.37`	`Gagorian`	`Well, No point putting in casttime/3.5 to every spell when you can let the script do it`
`08:12.47`	`Gagorian`	`Just put in the stuff that differs from normal`
`08:13.26`	`jaete`	`still don't see where frost nova's 0.2 comes from... or flamestrike's 0.95 and 0.7`
`08:13.34`	`jaete`	`those are experimental values?`
`08:13.42`	`jaete`	`experimented by whom? :p`
`08:14.09`	`Gagorian`	`Well I don't have a mage so I can't do much. Had a guildmate do the frost nova one`
`08:14.18`	`Gagorian`	`And theorycraft also gives 0.2 for frost nova`
`08:14.30`	`Gagorian`	`flamestrike 0.7 is the amount of damage gone to the nuke`
`08:14.32`	`Gagorian`	`0.3 to dot`
`08:14.47`	`Gagorian`	`I guess, it doesn't really follow any rule either`
`08:15.17`	`Gagorian`	`It's retarded, I feel very annoyed to put in random values`
`08:15.27`	`Gagorian`	`but when blizzard has done it that way.. That's the only choice`
`08:15.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`huh? random?`
`08:16.01`	`jaete`	`did you check the thread i linked?`
`08:16.19`	`Gagorian`	`I've read that before`
`08:16.35`	`Gagorian`	`But I wont change values on some pure speculation`
`08:16.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`nothing when it comes to damage forumlas is random`
`08:16.56`	`Gagorian`	`Well, random for anyone except blizzard then..`
`08:17.23`	`Gagorian`	`If they haven't published the formula you just have to put in some random experimental value unless you figure it out`
`08:17.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`what spell exactly are we talking about`
`08:18.06`	`jaete`	`that's my point, so none of the logical formulas work with say flamestrike? or frost nova?`
`08:18.16`	`jaete`	`because they do seem to work with CoC, AE etc`
`08:18.23`	`Gagorian`	`Frost nova for sure not`
`08:18.34`	`jaete`	`would be helpful to know which have a fully custom coefficient :)`
`08:19.16`	`Gagorian`	`Arrowmaster: Well, immolate nuke/dot distribution. Frost Nova, Flamestrike, damage/healing lower rank penalties`
`08:19.33`	`Gagorian`	`I'd very much appreciate an exact formula`
`08:19.36`	`jaete`	`immolate follows the general rule`
`08:19.42`	`Gagorian`	`does not`
`08:19.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`immolate nuke/dot may seem 'random' because the spell has a set part thats in the dd and a set parts thats in the dot`
`08:20.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`but its easyly calculated`
`08:20.06`	`Gagorian`	`Yeah I've calculated it`
`08:20.08`	`Gagorian`	`and it's correct`
`08:20.13`	`jaete`	`isn't immolate 20% / 65%?`
`08:20.16`	`Gagorian`	`nope`
`08:21.27`	`Gagorian`	`It's ~(1.5/3.5)*0.349 / 1-0.349`
`08:21.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`what`
`08:21.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`where the hell did you come up with that`
`08:22.16`	`Gagorian`	`Exactly`
`08:22.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh wait nvm`
`08:22.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`sorry forgot it was divided by base damage done by each part`
`08:23.04`	`jaete`	`not 2.0/3.5*0.349 / 1-0.349?`
`08:23.04`	`jaete`	`2 sec cast?`
`08:23.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`good point it is 2sec`
`08:23.15`	`Gagorian`	`well.. yeah 2 secs`
`08:23.30`	`jaete`	`because that would be logical, exactly as in the formula`
`08:23.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`moonfire and flameshock should be calculated similarly to immolate`
`08:23.40`	`jaete`	`with 2.0/ etc it's 20% / 65%`
`08:23.54`	`Gagorian`	`not exactly but close enough`
`08:24.13`	`Gagorian`	`probably lost in rounding`
`08:24.48`	`Gagorian`	`flame shock is odd`
`08:24.55`	`Gagorian`	`well compared to immolate`
`08:25.00`	`jaete`	`see the thread already. ;) the 0.349 in immolate is because of the relation between the initial damage and the dot damage`
`08:25.05`	`jaete`	`before talents, gear etc`
`08:26.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`immolate also is easy to test with, it doesnt have a variable damage range like almost all direct damage spells`
`08:27.01`	`Gagorian`	`yeah, that's the good thing about it`
`08:27.20`	`Gagorian`	`But as I said, immolate is correct for sure.`
`08:27.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm i should probably goto bed soon, just realized him about to hit 36 hours`
`08:28.53`	`Gagorian`	`Now present formulas for the more tough nuts and I'll happily accept them`
`08:31.32`	`jaete`	`meh, i'm still kinda hopeful that there aren't too many exceptions to the generic formula`
`08:31.37`	`jaete`	`but needs more testing etc :p`
`08:31.48`	`Gagorian`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:31.48`	`Gagorian`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:32.10`	`jaete`	`in 1.9. wasn't it changed after that?`
`08:32.10`	`Gagorian`	`So, have you tested pyroblast?`
`08:32.18`	`jaete`	`yes, but not enough`
`08:32.19`	`Gagorian`	`I have no clue cause I don't have a mage`
`08:32.25`	`jaete`	`definitely not 71.4% to dot tho :)`
`08:32.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`it was`
`08:32.34`	`Gagorian`	`Well I'm pretty sure of that too`
`08:32.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`perty sure it got changed in 2.0.1`
`08:32.43`	`jaete`	`i got something like +150 to the dot total with +550 dmg`
`08:32.52`	`jaete`	`but anyway, i'll test it later when i have time`
`08:33.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`but i think its back to the 100%/71.4% in 2.0.3, and soulfire back to 100%`
`08:33.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`the cry babies got their way`
`08:34.28`	`Gagorian`	`mmyeah`
`08:34.39`	`Gagorian`	`more ugly formulas :(`
`08:34.46`	`Gagorian`	`Well, at least putting in more exceptions`
`08:35.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres always exceptions to rules in wow`
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`08:38.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`goodnight, im going to bed before my eyeballs roll to the top of my head and dont come back down.... not sure why but im really tired and 36 hours is usually nothing big for me, probably all the bordom from holidays`
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`08:42.55`	`xgravix`	`my minimap keeps turning black with Squeenix`
`08:43.03`	`xgravix`	`anyone else notice it`
`08:44.10`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r22195 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: Added locals koKR`
`08:44.22`	`Gagorian`	`jaete: Well, that formula you had on the forums doesn't work on immolate rank 6`
`08:44.29`	`Gagorian`	`5 seems to be alright`
`08:46.00`	`Dekuna`	`goddamn, whatever jncl did to the tooltips in the last Skinner commit, he really messed it up hard`
`08:46.39`	`Gagorian`	`jaete: Hmm, disregard that, blizzard has changed immolate values compared to thottbot`
`08:52.02`	`Gagorian`	`nothing really matches rank 5 actually.`
`08:52.26`	`Gagorian`	`but that's where the lower rank diminishing factor steps in :l`
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`08:57.19`	`snurre`	`argh, the volume in WMP11 sucks`
`08:59.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`how do you get the color of a debuff class now?`
`09:01.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`n/m, I typo'd`
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`09:04.16`	`Wobin`	`Hey what's the variable in FuBarPlugin to hide the minimap button without placing the addon in standby?`
`09:04.53`	`Dekuna`	`anyone here using FuXPFu?`
`09:05.51`	`Wobin`	`yes =)`
`09:06.02`	`ckknight`	`Wobin: .hideWithoutStandby`
`09:06.15`	`[Liquidor]`	`ckknight: ping`
`09:06.16`	`Wobin`	`thanks ck =)`
`09:06.29`	`ckknight`	`yes, [Liquidor]?`
`09:07.05`	`[Liquidor]`	`Would it be possible for you to trigger an event for when either Alliance or Horde wins? (Glory-2.0)`
`09:07.28`	`Dekuna`	`Wobin: do you get weird menu errors when trying to hide and then re-enable that mod?`
`09:07.42`	`Wobin`	`What sort of errors, Dek?`
`09:07.46`	`[Liquidor]`	`Atm you're triggering Glory_BGWin, but got no way to find out who won`
`09:08.47`	`[Liquidor]`	`ckknight: nvm my fault -.-`
`09:09.12`	`Dekuna`	`it doesn't re-enable the mod correctly... when i hide the plugin, then reenable it through deucecommander or fubar it attaches to the minimap and stops functioning :(`
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`09:09.25`	`ckknight`	`[Liquidor]: pat`
`09:09.26`	`[Liquidor]`	`ckknight: just look away from that, my brain just malfunc..`
`09:09.32`	`Grine`	`morning`
`09:09.36`	`ckknight`	`hey, Grine`
`09:10.21`	`CIA-17`	`03nirek * r22196 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: ok, where did that typo come from`
`09:11.11`	`Dekuna`	`Wobin: any idea what could be causing it to act like that?`
`09:11.25`	`Wobin`	`Dekuna: Odd, .cannotAttachToMinimap is set to true for FuXPFu`
`09:11.33`	`Wobin`	`it -shouldn't- be trying to attach =(`
`09:11.55`	`Wobin`	`What version are you running?`
`09:12.18`	`FryGuy`	`!desc evpsets`
`09:12.23`	`Dekuna`	`latest from WAU, think it's 19337`
`09:12.53`	`FryGuy`	`~wiki evpsets`
`09:13.25`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`09:13.36`	`Dekuna`	`Wobin: let me see if i can walk through and reproduce exactly what it's doing`
`09:13.36`	`Wobin`	`honestly, it's a bit difficult to have it hide effectively`
`09:13.53`	`Wobin`	`since even using hideWithoutStandby, it doesn't reload on restart`
`09:15.46`	`Dekuna`	`okay, so i load the mod, the plugin is in the fubar, i set it to hide without disable, and then when i use DeuceCommander to show it again, it defaults back to the minimap and any changes to options, view settings, etc. do nothing`
`09:16.15`	`Dekuna`	`i have to disable it in fubar and /rl to get it to load correctly again`
`09:17.34`	`Dekuna`	`actually, okay, if i disable it in the fubar menu and then re-enable it will reset`
`09:18.07`	`Dekuna`	`maybe the problem is with DeuceCommander, i'm not sure`
`09:18.21`	`Wobin`	`Hm, I don't think it can be modified in DC`
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`09:19.22`	`Wobin`	`okay, I'll give that process a try`
`09:19.51`	`Dekuna`	`i can live with it not being hidden, hehe, just trying to clean up my fubar`
`09:20.22`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`09:20.30`	`Wobin`	`I can't find FuXPFu in my Deucecommands`
`09:20.32`	`Wobin`	`er`
`09:22.03`	`Dekuna`	`should be under interface enhancements`
`09:22.06`	`Dekuna`	`i think`
`09:22.15`	`Dekuna`	`yeah`
`09:23.21`	`Wobin`	`bizzare`
`09:23.24`	`Wobin`	`it's not there`
`09:23.47`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`09:23.55`	`Wobin`	`possibly cause it doesn't have the standard aceoptions table`
`09:27.14`	`jaete`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:27.58`	`jaete`	`hmm mt ;p`
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`09:45.16`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r22197 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua):`
`09:45.16`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`09:45.17`	`CIA-17`	`-Fixed tooltip display errors for hybrid spells`
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`09:49.24`	`Wobin`	`5 Ominous'`
`09:49.36`	`Wobin`	`This is most.... Ominous`
`09:49.36`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: ping`
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`10:01.26`	`DrZoot`	`This is going to be a stupid question but why does lua need a getglobal function? if its a global wouldnt it be available globally?`
`10:01.58`	`ckknight`	`DrZoot: dealing with dynamic variables`
`10:02.04`	`ckknight`	`getglobal(text)`
`10:02.06`	`ckknight`	`for instance`
`10:02.11`	`ckknight`	`granted, I prefer _G[text]`
`10:02.24`	`DrZoot`	`so getglobal and _G are the same?`
`10:05.53`	`Wobin`	`well, they refer to the same table yes`
`10:06.10`	`Wobin`	`Hey ck, is there any way I can detect (eventwise?) if a fubar plugin changes panel?`
`10:06.17`	`ckknight`	`um`
`10:06.25`	`ckknight`	`I don't think so`
`10:06.30`	`Wobin`	`=(`
`10:06.41`	`ckknight`	`it could be added...`
`10:06.47`	`ckknight`	`granted, it would be a bit of a bitch`
`10:07.41`	`Wobin`	`Just so that FuXP can follow to whichever panel it gets placed on`
`10:07.51`	`Wobin`	`without having to check every few seconds`
`10:07.56`	`ckknight`	`yea, I see the point`
`10:08.04`	`Wobin`	`^^`
`10:08.07`	`nevcairiel`	`cant you just fire a event whenever the plugin is dropped? doesnt sound that hard to me somehow :D`
`10:08.45`	`Wobin`	`aye, that'd work. It's really the fact that it's moved that I need to know, not necessarily -where- it's gone`
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`10:21.40`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r22198 10CooldownTimers2/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua):`
`10:21.40`	`CIA-17`	`CooldownTimers2:`
`10:21.40`	`CIA-17`	`- Skills now update properly when they change ><`
`10:23.39`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r22199 10SorrenTimers/ (8 files in 2 dirs):`
`10:23.39`	`CIA-17`	`SorrenTimers:`
`10:23.39`	`CIA-17`	`- Bar Textures`
`10:23.39`	`CIA-17`	`- Other stuff`
`10:27.30`	`nevcairiel`	`Kaelten: how do i remove that annoying new KCI panel floating on my screen?`
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`10:37.24`	`DrZoot`	`AceDB doesnt fully initialize all of its vars until the addon has fully loaded does it?`
`10:37.25`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r22200 10Bartender3/ (5 files): Bartender3: stupid keybindings, go away with them.`
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`10:37.26`	`Kaelten`	`nevcairiel: oh, woops its up because I'm building it.`
`10:37.26`	`Kaelten`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:37.26`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
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`10:37.26`	`neenee`	`I love the Winter Veil mp3 :)`
`10:42.42`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r22201 10Bartender3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: more cleanup concerning the bindings`
`10:42.45`	`Dhraga`	`Nevcairiel, the BT3 oor coloring seemes a bit hmm slow... any chance you could speed up the oor checks on it ?`
`10:43.35`	`FryGuy`	`hmm this is kind of offtopic, but is there any way to make ocd read the cooldowns for the spells that are are hidden BT3 bars?`
`10:53.03`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r22202 10Bartender3/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: added an option to turn off the range indicator and tuned it response time`
`10:54.46`	`Neebler`	`most excellent`
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`10:56.24`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hi guys`
`10:56.41`	`haste`	`hello`
`10:56.56`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r22203 10Bartender3/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: fixed some locale strings`
`10:57.04`	`nevcairiel`	`CIA-17 is fast today`
`10:57.15`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`Nevcairiel, ya I can't complain for sure`
`11:01.39`	`DrZoot`	`Im using eclipse to develop my addon and Im about to put it on svn, is it ok if I just leave the eclipse project directory in the folder or should I remove it?`
`11:03.02`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`DrZoot, thats up to you`
`11:03.30`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I never could get used to using eclipse`
`11:03.34`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`its just weird`
`11:03.36`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:P`
`11:04.07`	`DrZoot`	`Ive got a copy of Oxygen XML which I use for xml editing and im sticking with eclipse for that reason alone`
`11:04.28`	`DrZoot`	`Leaving it in would make it alot easier for me so if thats ok Ill leave it in`
`11:04.40`	`haste`	`I used SciTE for years`
`11:04.41`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ya, shouldn't be an issue`
`11:04.45`	`haste`	`couple of weeka ago I swtiched to vim`
`11:04.59`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`haste, I'm using SciTe on my desktop, not sure what I'm going to put on this box`
`11:05.36`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`haste, btw, thanks for the frame code, I'm basing the frames in KC_Items on it`
`11:05.52`	`haste`	`I'll probably release a more backdrop friendly version soon`
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`11:06.04`	`haste`	`which support setting your own color`
`11:06.14`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`that'll be cool`
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`11:06.44`	`haste`	`but that will be after I've fixed several add ons`
`11:07.19`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`thats cool :)`
`11:07.43`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I'm watching Back To School`
`11:07.50`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:) gotta love dangerfield`
`11:08.42`	`haste`	`I'm watching some japanese music show right now`
`11:08.55`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`damn movie is over and I'm only half awake, :P`
`11:08.58`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I should be coding`
`11:08.59`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`on something`
`11:09.05`	`haste`	`since my favorite jazz artist has a promotion video for her next movie`
`11:09.08`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I have too much to do not to be working on something`
`11:09.21`	`axxo`	`any bulkmail addons for 2.0? :\`
`11:09.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`axxo thats on my list too, lol`
`11:09.41`	`haste`	`mine also actually`
`11:10.00`	`haste`	`I planned on forking BulkMail, and remove the whole AceGUI dep`
`11:10.53`	`haste`	`but I've delayed it seeing hC has returned`
`11:11.14`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`haste I was going to rewrite GMail and name it gMail, put a bulk mail style interface on it for the sending portion but embedding it into the normal frame like CTMM did`
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`11:12.24`	`haste`	`I like BulkMail for the pure reason that it doesn't integrate itself into the mail frame`
`11:12.46`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`haste hehe, I like the listbox approach but I'd rather have it integrated into the frame`
`11:12.53`	`axxo`	`is there a working bulkmail? did i look over it`
`11:13.07`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`axxo I don't think so, but I don't really knw`
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`11:13.34`	`KaeltenAway`	`ls`
`11:13.42`	`KaeltenAway`	`that works for getting op status`
`11:13.48`	`KaeltenAway`	`ls`
`11:14.02`	`DrZoot`	`Ok, first SVN commit, if I screw this up ... be gentle :D`
`11:14.03`	`axxo`	`one i can find has 1100 toc, guess i'll use ctmm, but its annoying since its not posted sepertaed on any sites, i like to keep updating stuff easy, that my main problem with it :)`
`11:14.43`	`DrZoot`	`:D`
`11:15.35`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ls`
`11:15.38`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`whoops`
`11:15.39`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:)`
`11:16.29`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`ChatZilla is actually a fairly decent irc client`
`11:16.29`	`FryGuy`	`ya i liked bulkmail too :(`
`11:16.33`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`just had to get used to i`
`11:16.38`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`is "Neriak on?`
`11:17.12`	`Gagorian-`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38173821&sid=1`
`11:17.28`	`Gagorian-`	`has anyone ever tried that? I declare bullshit. It doesn't work for any spell or rank imo`
`11:18.29`	`CIA-17`	`03drzoot * r22204 10Axon/ (68 files in 5 dirs):`
`11:18.29`	`CIA-17`	`Axon: initial commit`
`11:18.29`	`CIA-17`	`- A modular HUD addon, eventually incorporating target frames and spell/ability cool down bars.`
`11:19.45`	`Wobin`	`Is there any way to determine if one is in a BG?`
`11:19.57`	`DrZoot`	`zone name?`
`11:20.07`	`Wobin`	`=\`
`11:20.15`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`11:20.40`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`I think Bable-Zone can help with that but I'm notsure`
`11:21.28`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`DrZoot, looks like you did t fine :)`
`11:21.45`	`Wobin`	`hm TouristLib`
`11:21.52`	`Wobin`	`:IsBattleground("battleground")`
`11:21.52`	`Wobin`	`Returns whether the given battleground exists and is not a normal instance or zone.`
`11:22.11`	`Wobin`	`so IsBattleGround(CurrentZoneName) should work =)`
`11:22.57`	`CIA-17`	`03sorren * r22205 10SorrenTimers/Core.lua:`
`11:22.57`	`CIA-17`	`SorrenTimers:`
`11:22.57`	`CIA-17`	`- More bar customization`
`11:23.06`	`Wobin`	`Going to have HeyFuSecretary allow for answering services if you're in a BG`
`11:23.10`	`haste`	`Sometimes I wish my todo list would stop growing, and remain the same size for a week`
`11:23.22`	`Wobin`	`instead of just if you're afk`
`11:23.54`	`Nargiddley`	`the 2nd return from IsInInstance might help for finding if you're in a bg`
`11:24.13`	`Nargiddley`	`its "pvp" for them, not sure if the arena is the same`
`11:24.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`haste, I'm afraid to commit mine to paper, I think it would scare me`
`11:24.47`	`haste`	`http://hastey.pastey.net/4004-1ghh << anyone have a better solution then that?`
`11:25.57`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`hrm it doesn't take in to account any numeral after X`
`11:26.03`	`Wobin`	`haste rofl`
`11:26.21`	`CIA-17`	`03cinedelle * r22206 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-frFR.lua:`
`11:26.21`	`CIA-17`	`Automaton:`
`11:26.21`	`CIA-17`	`- frFR gossip updated and reflect the enUS file`
`11:26.26`	`haste`	`I know, but I wouldn't need anything higher then VII in most cases :)`
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`11:28.23`	`Kaelten-Laptop`	`:?)`
`11:28.49`	`haste`	`I use it for spell ranks`
`11:28.56`	`Mikma`	`ok now, who is irssi-log expert?`
`11:29.16`	`haste`	`you have to be an expert on that field also now?`
`11:29.17`	`Wobin`	`That covers everything up to 49 I guess =)`
`11:29.36`	`Wobin`	`er 39`
`11:29.47`	`Mikma`	`i want to log all CIA-* messages. how? :)`
`11:30.09`	`axxo`	`subscribe to the google group`
`11:30.14`	`haste`	`Wobin: L is 50`
`11:30.15`	`CIA-17`	`03arkayenro 07v1.25 beta 2006-12-26-22-25 * r22207 10ArkInventory/:`
`11:30.16`	`CIA-17`	`ArkInventory:`
`11:30.16`	`CIA-17`	`- 1.25 beta 2006-12-26-22-25`
`11:30.23`	`Mikma`	`axxo: what group?`
`11:30.35`	`Wobin`	`haste yeah. but that function doesn't handle L`
`11:31.00`	`axxo`	`Mikma: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace`
`11:32.05`	`haste`	`then again, the highest spell rank is XII I think`
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`11:34.07`	`Mikma`	`axxo: thanks.`
`11:36.31`	`CIA-17`	`03arkayenro 07v1.25 beta 2006-12-26-22-35 * r22208 10ArkInventory/ (12 files in 2 dirs):`
`11:36.31`	`CIA-17`	`ArkInventory:`
`11:36.32`	`CIA-17`	`- beta 2006-12-26-22-25 (the real one)`
`11:37.03`	`Mikma`	`get him to join irc`
`11:38.58`	`nevcairiel`	`i think i saw some function to convert roman numbers in lua`
`11:39.22`	`haste`	`oh?`
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`11:39.40`	`nevcairiel`	`but why use roman numbers anyway ? :D`
`11:39.48`	`haste`	`Poisons use it`
`11:40.02`	`nevcairiel`	`ah.`
`11:40.16`	`haste`	`and I save the ranks as decimals`
`11:40.32`	`Mikma`	`haste: LOLOLOO U SUXX!!!`
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`11:41.05`	`neenee`	`..`
`11:41.07`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i couldnt reproduce any weirdness with the keyring`
`11:42.36`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: my wife disabled the keyring, and after relog it was back again. i have no idea why`
`11:42.39`	`CIA-17`	`03next96 * r22209 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua:`
`11:42.39`	`CIA-17`	`Bartender3:`
`11:42.39`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locale koKR`
`11:43.18`	`CIA-17`	`03drzoot * r22210 10Axon/:`
`11:43.18`	`CIA-17`	`Axon:`
`11:43.18`	`CIA-17`	`- Adding Externals (I hope)`
`11:44.02`	`Mikma`	`i'm so temptated to test that arkinventory beta`
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`11:45.37`	`neenee`	`I'm trying it now ;)`
`11:45.51`	`neenee`	`It's nice, but there are a few things I do not like about it.`
`11:46.31`	`haste`	`np: Shiina Ringo - Karisome Maiden(DEATH JAZZ ver)`
`11:46.34`	`haste`	`death jazz :D`
`11:47.16`	`Wobin`	`whassit do?`
`11:47.50`	`axxo`	`meh, ct_lib captures errors?`
`11:47.58`	`axxo`	`now i can't even use ct_mm`
`11:53.01`	`Neebler`	`ALLAH AL AKBAR.`
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`11:58.33`	`kebinusan`	`Anyone have an idea about this: http://pastebin.ca/292315`
`11:59.05`	`kebinusan`	`Ive gotten that 328 times since loading wow a couple hours ago`
`11:59.11`	`Neebler`	`http://www.s3o.co.uk/games/miniputt.swf`
`11:59.23`	`Neebler`	`Miniputt needs to be made into a WoW addon`
`12:00.14`	`Hjalte`	`Indeed Neebler!`
`12:00.31`	`Neebler`	`aside from Tetrinet, it would be the greatest addon in the history of WoW`
`12:00.35`	`Neebler`	`if only..`
`12:00.44`	`Neebler`	`WhiteboardNG will due for now`
`12:02.30`	`Hjalte`	`Neebler, can you think of other games than "guess what i'm drawing" for Whiteboard?`
`12:03.44`	`kebinusan`	`wow needs a ton of minigames`
`12:04.30`	`kebinusan`	`fishing should be alot more entertaining`
`12:05.29`	`Stephmw`	`urgh. no way is hole 14 a 2-shot`
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`12:06.48`	`Stephmw`	`Neebler: final score... 50`
`12:08.32`	`evl`	`do I have to call UnregisterCandyBarWithGroup before I remove the actual CandyBar?`
`12:08.42`	`nevcairiel`	`kebinusan: something is tainting UIParent_ManageFramePositions, or some value used by it. But i couldnt figure out what .. ive had that error as well`
`12:09.54`	`Neebler`	`sorry I didnt respond earlier. been alt tabbing while playing COD2multi. Hjalte: infinite ammount of simple games such as tic-tac-toe, checkers, that dot fill game`
`12:11.07`	`Hjalte`	`Stephmw: 42 ;)`
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`12:11.29`	`Neriak`	`hi`
`12:11.35`	`Neriak`	`nevcairiel: u there?`
`12:11.56`	`nevcairiel`	`i was some time ago`
`12:12.00`	`Neriak`	`;)`
`12:12.04`	`Neriak`	`bt3 is borken`
`12:12.11`	`Neriak`	`s/borken/broken/`
`12:12.18`	`nevcairiel`	`works fine for me`
`12:12.32`	`Neriak`	`yeah but german localization is fucked up`
`12:12.38`	`Neriak`	`breaks the whole addon`
`12:13.15`	`Neriak`	`can i fix this on SVN?`
`12:13.23`	`Neriak`	`[2006/12/26 13:07:33-1116-x1]: Bartender3\locales\Bartender3-deDE.lua:3: AceLocale(Bartender3): Improper translation exists. "Assign a Keybinding to Button %s" is likely misspelled for locale deDE.`
`12:14.35`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r22211 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: removed a line which was removed from the translation file`
`12:16.46`	`Wobin`	`oh man`
`12:16.48`	`Wobin`	`tetrinet`
`12:16.51`	`Wobin`	`that would so rock`
`12:17.17`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r22212 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc SpellData.lua):`
`12:17.18`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`12:17.18`	`CIA-17`	`-Fixed a few bugs and spell coefficients.`
`12:17.22`	`Neebler`	`Is it even possible for miniputt type addon to be written in LUA?`
`12:17.33`	`Neebler`	`for a*`
`12:17.42`	`Neebler`	`with wall collision`
`12:18.26`	`Stephmw`	`don't see why not - collision detection is just maths`
`12:19.14`	`haste`	`You can make a 3D cube with Vectors in WoW, so it should be possible`
`12:19.14`	`Kaelten`	`Neriak: gmorning :)`
`12:19.14`	`haste`	`but it would require a lot of math in the end I would believe`
`12:19.26`	`Neebler`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3748.0`
`12:19.40`	`Neebler`	`rally the troops to the thread. support is needed!`
`12:21.48`	`Neriak`	`nevcairiel: thanks the error has gone. however now there aren't any Hotkeys shown on the buttons.`
`12:22.34`	`Neriak`	`nevcairiel: the Hotkey toggle in bars menu doesn't do anything except toggling itself ;)`
`12:22.39`	`Neebler`	`I hate hole 15!!`
`12:23.07`	`Neebler`	`I mean 14. I just holed in 1 on 15`
`12:23.20`	`nevcairiel`	`Neriak: you have to rebind the keys in the Blizzard Keybinding UI.`
`12:23.44`	`Neriak`	`nevcairiel: oh, didn't expect that, because all keys are still functional`
`12:24.06`	`Neriak`	`nevcairiel:is this the final state of the key handling? ;)`
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`12:27.10`	`kebinusan`	`hmm anyone run wow under wine?`
`12:28.24`	`nevcairiel`	`Neriak: i hope`
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`12:30.03`	`Stephmw`	`kebinusan: I run it under Cedega`
`12:30.36`	`haste`	`I run it under wine once in a while`
`12:31.01`	`kebinusan`	`My cursor has been bugging me, but Im guessing it has to do with the apparent lack of hardware cursor support`
`12:31.17`	`kebinusan`	`mouse movement appears alot more sluggish in game than out`
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`12:31.43`	`haste`	`that problem I haven't had`
`12:32.23`	`evl`	`Sure you haven't turned on that smooth option?`
`12:32.58`	`evl`	`Video Options -> Hardware Cursor [x], Smooth Mouse [ ]`
`12:34.14`	`ckknight`	`Neebler: well, I got 3 under par`
`12:34.20`	`Kaelten`	`well I was 4 over on whole 18 but I made par`
`12:34.23`	`Tornhoof`	`42`
`12:34.59`	`Neebler`	`the last hole was conceived by satan`
`12:35.04`	`Neebler`	`I got 12 over on it`
`12:35.25`	`ckknight`	`Neebler: seriously?`
`12:35.31`	`ckknight`	`it only took me 4`
`12:36.25`	`Stephmw`	`that took me 8`
`12:37.05`	`Stephmw`	`kebinusan: cursor looks grey and flat?`
`12:37.18`	`Stephmw`	`kebinusan: are you running in directx or opengl?`
`12:37.29`	`kebinusan`	`ogl`
`12:37.49`	`kebinusan`	`its the little 3d hand the movment just is really laggly`
`12:37.57`	`Neriak`	`Kaelten: just read the Fence thread. I'm absolutely eager for a coloring module :) However, look at the SinglePrice module - I think I'm already hooking functions there for coloring, so the question is if we gonna use SinglePrioce for it or put coloring in an extra module`
`12:38.20`	`Stephmw`	`kebinusan: I'm not having that problem, so I can't help you there`
`12:39.08`	`Kaelten`	`Neriak: hrm`
`12:39.26`	`Kaelten`	`Neriak: if we can rename the singleprice module it might be a good fit`
`12:39.29`	`kebinusan`	`yeah Im not finding anything on the wine site about similar issues I'll pick at it a bit later`
`12:39.46`	`Neriak`	`Kaelten: that's no big deal, I'm all for that if it helps :)`
`12:40.14`	`Stephmw`	`what bothers me is that directx used to work great (including gfx mode changes), but since the 2.0 patch I can't run anything other than ogl`
`12:41.00`	`Kaelten`	`woot 8 under part`
`12:41.17`	`Neriak`	`err .. what are you guys doing?`
`12:41.26`	`Kaelten`	`http://www.s3o.co.uk/games/miniputt.swf`
`12:41.29`	`Neriak`	`haha`
`12:41.31`	`Neriak`	`kk`
`12:41.57`	`Neebler`	`final score 38. 10 under par`
`12:42.08`	`Neebler`	`I redid it and got 2 on the final hole`
`12:42.12`	`kebinusan`	`Hmm Ive always run in opengl mode`
`12:42.26`	`haste`	`same`
`12:42.43`	`Kaelten`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:42.54`	`Kaelten`	`I've already got a working version of it embeded into KCI`
`12:43.32`	`Kaelten`	`the only thing that slightly concerns me is what happens when you have two addons that have same Saved Variables name?`
`12:44.30`	`Kaelten`	`thinking about it, since I'm having to use a custom Core file, I'll just change the name of my database file sof that if it gets used it'll get used from there.`
`12:44.52`	`Neriak`	`Kaelten: sounds like a plan :P`
`12:45.33`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3695.msg69605#msg69605`
`12:45.33`	`Mikma`	`:D`
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`12:46.09`	`Kaelten`	`heh, someone suggested that we force devs to login to irc to commit`
`12:46.17`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten: righton :D`
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`12:46.38`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten: btw, glad to see you more active than you were some time ago ;)`
`12:46.39`	`Kaelten`	`does arkinventory alklow offline character viewing?`
`12:46.48`	`Kaelten`	`Mikma: its beena hectic few months man :)`
`12:46.53`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten: yes, it does allow :)`
`12:47.18`	`Kaelten`	`Mikma: he wrote a custom lib for it or did he use OneStorage?`
`12:47.29`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten: i have no idea about that one`
`12:47.46`	`Mikma`	`you know what i would like to see...`
`12:47.59`	`Mikma`	`Inventory-sharing within trusted players`
`12:48.15`	`Mikma`	`so you broadcast your inventory to them (itemid's and such) and they can look what you have woth you`
`12:49.34`	`kebinusan`	`I played with ark a little bit but I didnt see an easy way to hide items, like I really get annoyed seing 40 slots of soul shards`
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`12:49.53`	`kebinusan`	`perhaps I missed something`
`12:49.57`	`Mikma`	`hiding items?`
`12:50.03`	`Mikma`	`why do you want to hide items? :D`
`12:50.15`	`kebinusan`	`Mikma, never played a warlock have you?`
`12:50.30`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: what's that ;) i'm playing one atm`
`12:51.00`	`kebinusan`	`I just dont like seeing all my soul shards... at least in onebag I can just get a one line count at the bottom of the screen and hide the profession bag`
`12:51.24`	`kebinusan`	`shrug just wasted space showing every single shard`
`12:51.43`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: well let's hope that kaelten and Arkayenro, do a extra-cool inventorymod ;D`
`12:52.00`	`kebinusan`	`Its a good start though`
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`12:52.23`	`kebinusan`	`being able to hide categories would do it, I could just assign shards to a category and hide it or something`
`12:52.27`	`CIA-17`	`03kodewulf * r22213 10School-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`12:52.27`	`CIA-17`	`School-2.0`
`12:52.27`	`CIA-17`	`* Added School-Data-2.0`
`12:52.27`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:52.27`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:52.31`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: well, that's a good idea.`
`12:52.46`	`Mikma`	`i like that, really. and i think he should add it in. or Kaelten can do that ;D`
`12:53.38`	`Kodewulf_`	`i know i'm a day late, but merry christmas all... :)`
`12:53.39`	`kebinusan`	`I do love the enginventory feel, it was alot nicer being able to always find certain items in certain spots and easily sort out gear sets`
`12:54.11`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: make a post?`
`12:54.25`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3695.msg69605#msg69605`
`12:54.25`	`kebinusan`	`yeah I will, I'll poke around a bit more later today and post a few things`
`12:54.54`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: that's really a nice idea, so i would like to see it in ArkInventory`
`12:55.11`	`neenee`	`Would there be a way to modify Arkinventory to grow up instead of down?`
`12:55.25`	`Mikma`	`neenee: make a post :)`
`12:56.50`	`neenee`	`I did`
`12:56.52`	`neenee`	`:)`
`12:57.10`	`neenee`	`http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs510&d=06522&f=WoWScrnShot_122606_135410.jpg <-- close :)`
`12:57.54`	`Mikma`	`haha`
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`12:57.59`	`Mikma`	`who won?`
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`12:58.05`	`neenee`	`we did :)`
`12:58.08`	`LLoydBates`	`Gagorian-: ping`
`12:58.10`	`neenee`	`by 0.2 or so seconds ;)`
`12:58.30`	`neenee`	`But it was too close for comfort, people kept running away from the flag`
`12:59.04`	`Gngsk`	`lol`
`12:59.33`	`Gngsk`	`"i got 20 lightbulbs and a pair of slippers, guess I can be inventive with that too but i doubt ill manage to get off"`
`12:59.54`	`neenee`	`:P`
`13:00.20`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: i owned you`
`13:00.26`	`Mikma`	`kebinusan: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3695.msg69617#msg69617`
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`13:04.42`	`Gagorian-`	`LLoydBates :O`
`13:05.28`	`LLoydBates`	`Gagorian-: is there a way a german client could stop drdmg of working=`
`13:05.43`	`LLoydBates`	`it does nothing for me (priest)`
`13:05.52`	`Gagorian-`	`It's not localized`
`13:06.11`	`LLoydBates`	`can i help you with that? (german local)`
`13:06.50`	`Gagorian-`	`I guess, I will be using BabbleSpell for most of the localizations`
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`13:07.22`	`LLoydBates`	`sorry, for slow replys, i'm in ab atm`
`13:07.27`	`Gngsk`	`hmm, wonder why nev removed the bt3 keybinder. seemed to work well enough for me`
`13:07.28`	`Gagorian-`	`I added some entries a few days ago, if you'd fill them out for the german locale`
`13:07.43`	`LLoydBates`	`in which file do i have to look?`
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`13:08.48`	`Gagorian-`	`you have dev SVN access?`
`13:09.07`	`KaeltenAway`	`night guys`
`13:09.16`	`Gngsk`	`nite`
`13:09.21`	`LLoydBates`	`i have a svn commandline client installed, i gues`
`13:09.43`	`LLoydBates`	`but i cant commit if you meant that`
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`13:10.01`	`Gagorian-`	`Myeah, but I guess if you provide me with the localizations I can commit`
`13:10.30`	`LLoydBates`	`that, i could do :)`
`13:11.19`	`Gagorian-`	`Download Babble-2.2 then check Babble-Spell-2.2\Babble-Spell-2.2.lua in the german locale for all the entries that are commented out (--`
`13:11.22`	`Gagorian-`	`)`
`13:12.42`	`LLoydBates`	`is it ok to get Babble-2.2 from http://www.wowace.com/files/ or do i have to fetch the files using svn?`
`13:13.12`	`Smeltn`	`I have a generalized question`
`13:13.14`	`Gagorian-`	`well /files/ should be fine`
`13:13.25`	`Smeltn`	`you know bars switch on Warrior stance changes of course`
`13:13.35`	`Smeltn`	`will they switch on Hunter goign from ranged to melee?`
`13:13.45`	`jaete`	`hmm... doesn't Babble-Spell-2.2 have all the localizations yet?`
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`13:14.07`	`jaete`	`otherwise i don't see how or why localization would be a problem :) except of course for the custom UI texts`
`13:14.42`	`Gagorian-`	`It doesn't have some of the debuff/buff things I use`
`13:14.49`	`Gagorian-`	`well I guess locales could have that disabled`
`13:14.54`	`jaete`	`just do something like self.spells[L[self.playerClass]][L["Fireball"]]["12"] = { etc }`
`13:15.02`	`jaete`	`just gets ugly is the only problem ;)`
`13:15.42`	`Gagorian-`	`I know how to work it out, just haven't got time yet :)`
`13:17.46`	`jaete`	`i've been working on my addon as well`
`13:18.25`	`jaete`	`tho i dunno how much sense it makes in the long run to have two very similar ones. also feel kinda bad for using some of your code :p`
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`13:18.58`	`LLoydBates`	`Babble-Spell got 13 lines for deDE that are commented out`
`13:20.52`	`LLoydBates`	`i'll have a look at it :)`
`13:21.43`	`Gagorian-`	`One more`
`13:22.01`	`Gagorian-`	`I need "Contagion" as well`
`13:22.21`	`LLoydBates`	`never heard of that one`
`13:22.30`	`LLoydBates`	`what is that?`
`13:23.29`	`Gagorian-`	`Warlock talent`
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`13:23.47`	`LLoydBates`	`ok, wich tree? i'll ask in my guild`
`13:23.49`	`Gagorian-`	`affliction after shadow mastery`
`13:24.03`	`Gagorian-`	`makes dots resistant to dispell`
`13:27.20`	`LLoydBates`	`"Ansteckung"`
`13:27.49`	`Gagorian-`	`Alright`
`13:27.57`	`Gagorian-`	`Can you send private messages?`
`13:28.08`	`LLoydBates`	`you could always use the local talentcalcs for talents :)`
`13:28.19`	`LLoydBates`	`http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/basics/talents/warlock/talents.html <- german, warlock`
`13:29.21`	`Gagorian-`	`Sure I could if I had the time :)`
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`13:30.59`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`13:31.05`	`Mikma`	`Bartender3 is missing HotKeys`
`13:32.02`	`Gngsk`	`Log:`
`13:32.02`	`Gngsk`	`Bartender3: stupid keybindings, go away with them.`
`13:32.13`	`Gngsk`	`D=`
`13:33.18`	`Ominous`	`is there a way to access the part of the saved variables that AceModule uses for which modules are dissabled?`
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`13:37.54`	`yacoob`	`Just out of curiosity I logged into accout management. Character movement page is down. Status of realms too. My gf was able to log in in spite of account being frozen.`
`13:38.00`	`yacoob`	`...Merry Christmas, Blizzard! :D`
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`13:40.51`	`Enigma`	`Hello all, I'm looking for someone to help me with AceDB2.0. Anyone willing to help?`
`13:46.14`	`Neebler`	`http://www.oooooouch.com/`
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`13:49.09`	`yacoob`	`http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/xmas06/NightBeforeWintervale.mp3 if someone hasn't yet heard it`
`13:49.13`	`yacoob`	`"Call in the Infernal"`
`13:49.58`	`Wobin`	`Blah`
`13:50.14`	`Wobin`	`What addon should I be installing to check memory usage/function calls etc`
`13:50.21`	`yacoob`	`teksupport?`
`13:50.29`	`Wobin`	`izzat 2.0 now?`
`13:51.50`	`Wobin`	`aha`
`13:51.55`	`Wobin`	`s&d'd`
`13:52.02`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: how's PlowKing going?`
`13:52.15`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: ArkInventory is going to replace it ;)`
`13:52.15`	`Wobin`	`Not atm`
`13:52.21`	`Wobin`	`All good for me then =)`
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`13:53.43`	`kagaro`	`morning`
`13:54.00`	`phreaky`	`~seen a-stray-cat`
`13:54.23`	`purl`	`a-stray-cat <n=a-stray-@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 14h 26m 49s ago, saying: 'hm?'.`
`13:55.01`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`13:55.04`	`Wobin`	`ArkInv looks good`
`13:55.15`	`Wobin`	`Saves me from having to write PK =)`
`13:55.35`	`kagaro`	`soo has anyone figured out what filter blizz is applying to whispers yet? I would like to get send note by whisper working again instead of .. meep disconnect`
`13:56.48`	`Gngsk`	`kagaro, apparently they don't want you doing that /invite <player> and use party messages`
`13:57.02`	`axxo`	`i moved and scaled cartho, and now its outside my screen and i can't access the options anymore :X`
`13:57.20`	`Elkano`	`Wobin, I think I found the bug in RE`
`13:57.24`	`Gngsk`	`kagaro, I suppose it could be a bug`
`13:57.31`	`Wobin`	`Elkano: yeah?`
`13:57.34`	`kagaro`	`yeah i got noteshare only sending to addon channel so its alright, but lots of people ask for whisper/private channels`
`13:57.37`	`Wobin`	`Is it that RecipeRadar one?`
`13:57.38`	`Elkano`	`or at least more clues toward it`
`13:58.06`	`Elkano`	`the error happens when I swich tradeskill eg I have mining opend and switch to leather`
`13:58.13`	`Fisker-`	`are anyone here on the eu forums?`
`13:58.13`	`kagaro`	`could be a bug blizz side who knows`
`13:58.43`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`13:58.44`	`Elkano`	`so maybe in that case you close-hook isn't working`
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`14:01.15`	`Wobin`	`yeah`
`14:01.28`	`Wobin`	`I have it hooked to the close event for the tradeframe`
`14:01.34`	`Wobin`	`I'll move it to before the hooking`
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`14:01.54`	`Fisker-`	`can any EU guys check if they can login on the forums?`
`14:04.14`	`Elkano`	`EU or US forums?`
`14:04.30`	`DrZoot`	`I havent been able to log onto the forums since they switched to the new ver`
`14:04.49`	`Elkano`	`EU login worked for me`
`14:04.56`	`Garoun`	`you need to wipe out your cookies and cache for the blizzard sites Zoot`
`14:04.59`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r22214 10ReverseEngineering/ReverseEngineering.lua: ReverseEngineering - Made it unhook before trying to rehook`
`14:05.06`	`Garoun`	`the new forum didn't properly clear the old cookies`
`14:05.10`	`Fisker-`	`awesome Elkano`
`14:05.18`	`Fisker-`	`might just be they decided to unban me again`
`14:05.46`	`Fisker-`	`Usually i'm redirected to some server error 500 page but now i'm just getting login error or invalid account name or password`
`14:05.47`	`Fisker-`	`:)`
`14:10.03`	`DrZoot`	`hmmm, I just realised that the mess of code im calling an addon has been stuck on the wowace files site, I really hope no one tries to get it to work .... cause it doesnt`
`14:10.08`	`Garoun`	`make sure you clear out all the cookies fisker and shut down teh browser after that`
`14:10.10`	`[Liquidor]`	`Is there an overall event for all chat channels? So I don't have to register a bunch to cover them all?`
`14:10.41`	`axxo`	`DrZoot: whats it called? :)`
`14:11.11`	`Garoun`	`don't think so Liquidor`
`14:11.12`	`Garoun`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Communication`
`14:11.20`	`DrZoot`	`lol, its called Axon, im being serious though, it really doesnt work`
`14:11.31`	`Garoun`	`just register the one's you need`
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`14:11.56`	`DrZoot`	`im rewriting very large chunks of it atm, so hopefully might have something a bit more useable soon`
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`14:18.38`	`[Liquidor]`	`Folks I need to make a sub that splits a line like this "!() ()" into args. Any help?`
`14:20.41`	`Wobin`	`What args are you getting out of that?`
`14:21.06`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r22215 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`14:21.06`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`14:21.06`	`CIA-17`	`-Added a lot of new talents/spells plus some deDE localizations.`
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`14:21.51`	`Ominous`	`is OnEnable and OnDisable called whenever an addon is put in/removed from standby?`
`14:22.00`	`Wobin`	`yes`
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`14:27.39`	`phreaky`	`~seen a-stray-cat`
`14:27.48`	`purl`	`a-stray-cat <n=a-stray-@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 15h 14s ago, saying: 'hm?'.`
`14:27.48`	`Ominous`	`what is the best way of making every module dissable when you put the main core of the addon in standby but then when you re-enable it making the previously enabled modiles re-enable and the rest that wernt previously enabled stay disabled`
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`14:31.37`	`Gagorian-`	`Anyone with foreign locale here?`
`14:32.02`	`Ominous`	`does OnDisable get called when you logoff?`
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`14:33.35`	`Neriak`	`hm does anyone have an ide why ArkInventory is bugged? ArkInventory\ArkInventory.lua:1: attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)`
`14:33.45`	`Neriak`	`I can't see anything wrong .. that's totally odd ..`
`14:34.09`	`Neriak`	`s/ide/idea/`
`14:34.21`	`Gngsk`	`/print AceLibrary and 'yes' or 'no'`
`14:34.44`	`Neriak`	`yes`
`14:34.45`	`Neriak`	`;)`
`14:35.07`	`Neriak`	`It's there .. all my other addons are working fine`
`14:37.09`	`Elkano`	`\o/ new AtlasLoot with FuBar support :)`
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`14:37.58`	`Gngsk`	`Elkano, not using Cartographer's Instance Loot module?`
`14:38.35`	`Elkano`	`I have it installed, but still using atlasloot ^^ and in the newest beta, the PvP stuff is updated ^^`
`14:39.13`	`Gagorian-`	`Anyone with deDE locale for example here?`
`14:40.03`	`Neriak`	`Gagorian-: what do you want to know?`
`14:40.24`	`Gagorian-`	`/print GetActionInfo( n )`
`14:40.33`	`Gagorian-`	`where n is a nr. on the actionbar with a spell`
`14:40.55`	`Neriak`	`just a sec`
`14:42.27`	`Neriak`	`Gagorian-: "spell",1,"spell"`
`14:42.37`	`Gagorian-`	`with deDE?`
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`14:43.00`	`Neriak`	`yes`
`14:43.02`	`Gagorian-`	`good, no need to localize that then I guess.`
`14:43.20`	`Neriak`	`It seems it's using Spell numbers`
`14:43.24`	`Neriak`	`ibnstead of names`
`14:43.31`	`Gagorian-`	`yup`
`14:43.31`	`Neriak`	`s/ibnstead/instead/`
`14:43.32`	`Arjor`	`guys is skinner broken. i get wierd tooltip skinning ?`
`14:43.34`	`neenee`	`When I run WowAceUpdater and update mods, do I need to restart WoW to load them?`
`14:43.38`	`Gagorian-`	`I just want the type`
`14:43.41`	`Gagorian-`	`so I only process spells`
`14:43.54`	`Neriak`	`Arjor: yup, EQCompare and some other Tooltip addons are broken because of it`
`14:44.37`	`andremar_`	`neenee: yes, to make sure everything is correct, you do`
`14:45.27`	`neenee`	`okidoki :)`
`14:45.37`	`Arjor`	`kk`
`14:45.38`	`Arjor`	`thanx`
`14:45.46`	`neenee`	`I did that, but heard someone mention that he did it by doing a /reload ui.`
`14:45.54`	`neenee`	`So I had to make sure whether I was not wasting time.`
`14:46.12`	`Wobin`	`chm`
`14:46.20`	`Wobin`	`Is it possible to set scrolling on a dewdrop menu?`
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`14:47.09`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r22216 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:`
`14:47.09`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_FuXPFu:`
`14:47.09`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed the individual faction choice, now tied directly to WatchedFaction`
`14:47.09`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed up some non faction issues`
`14:47.09`	`CIA-17`	`- Please test =P Will hopefully update less often (as not required). There will be lag when changing watched faction, as GetWatchedFactionInfo takes some time to register the change.`
`14:47.16`	`Wobin`	`oh wow`
`14:47.17`	`Wobin`	`lagged =P`
`14:48.24`	`Wobin`	`Or should I make it a tablet?`
`14:50.34`	`Elkano`	`wobin, we ahve FactionsFu ;)`
`14:50.47`	`Wobin`	`yes =P`
`14:50.48`	`Wobin`	`I know`
`14:51.01`	`Wobin`	`Which is why I originally had it able to split from the WatchedFaction`
`14:51.04`	`Wobin`	`cause someone asked for it`
`14:51.11`	`Wobin`	`but it eneded up too much trouble`
`14:51.19`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r22217 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:`
`14:51.19`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_FuXPFu:`
`14:51.19`	`CIA-17`	`- Set default watched faction to 0`
`14:52.10`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r22218 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: Updated deDE Translation`
`14:54.01`	`Neebler`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2063667852598904740&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=undefined`
`14:54.21`	`Neebler`	`frogger paradise`
`14:56.09`	`CIA-17`	`03gagorian * r22219 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc Localization.lua SpellData.lua):`
`14:56.09`	`CIA-17`	`DrDamage:`
`14:56.09`	`CIA-17`	`-Added basic localization. Spells should at least be detected, talents aren't guaranteed. Depends on BabbleSpell.`
`14:56.24`	`Gamefaq`	`wow cia-17 is fast today...this commit is 15 min old...`
`14:56.47`	`Wobin`	`yeah =P`
`14:56.50`	`Wobin`	`He's lagging a bit`
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`15:00.38`	`Gngsk`	`wobin, won't you ever add a detached tooltip with some algorithms for xp/rep per hour or something to FuXPFu?`
`15:00.56`	`Wobin`	`=`
`15:00.57`	`Wobin`	`\`
`15:01.00`	`Wobin`	`=\`
`15:01.04`	`Gngsk`	`lol, guess not`
`15:01.11`	`Wobin`	`I could...`
`15:01.20`	`Wobin`	`but it'd bloat the addon...`
`15:01.29`	`Gngsk`	`true, I suppose`
`15:01.31`	`Wobin`	`cause atm, it doesn't save much besides cosmetic settings`
`15:01.34`	`Elkano`	`xp/hr is in ExpFu`
`15:01.38`	`Gngsk`	`how about just an option to detach the tooltip?`
`15:01.54`	`Wobin`	`can do`
`15:01.57`	`Wobin`	`oh`
`15:02.09`	`Wobin`	`I also adjusted the hideWithoutStandby`
`15:02.15`	`Gngsk`	`ORLY?`
`15:02.16`	`Gngsk`	`so it works now?`
`15:02.19`	`Wobin`	`almost`
`15:02.23`	`Gngsk`	`hehe`
`15:02.32`	`Wobin`	`I have to put in an option to stick it to the top or bottom of the screen`
`15:02.44`	`Wobin`	`since I can't detect what panel you're on if it's hidden`
`15:03.07`	`Wobin`	`atm, it'll just go straight to the topmost bottom panel`
`15:03.26`	`Wobin`	`but it -should- stick around on reload etc`
`15:03.28`	`Wobin`	`give it a test`
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`15:06.40`	`Gngsk`	`will do`
`15:06.44`	`Gngsk`	`once you add detaching :P`
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`15:07.11`	`Gngsk`	`although, today will be my last day of grinding for AD`
`15:07.15`	`Gngsk`	`wishing it was in all week`
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`15:08.03`	`Wobin`	`I could change it now`
`15:08.09`	`Wobin`	`but I don't have time to test it at all =P`
`15:08.19`	`Wobin`	`So I don't know if it'll go mad on the updates or something`
`15:09.14`	`Gngsk`	`if it's a small change you could just tell me what to change locally`
`15:09.31`	`Gngsk`	`well, see here's the deal`
`15:09.33`	`Gngsk`	`I only show the icon`
`15:09.43`	`Gngsk`	`but I wanna see the info that the text shows in a detached tooltip`
`15:09.51`	`Gngsk`	`guess that's prolly a bit more involved`
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`15:10.24`	`Wobin`	`Line 80`
`15:10.26`	`Wobin`	`FuXP.cannotDetachTooltip = true`
`15:10.28`	`Wobin`	`set it to false`
`15:10.32`	`Gngsk`	`kk`
`15:11.15`	`Wobin`	`Should I make this FuBar independant?`
`15:11.33`	`Gngsk`	`hmm, I dunno`
`15:11.51`	`Wobin`	`argh`
`15:11.53`	`Wobin`	`2am`
`15:11.58`	`Wobin`	`and I have to work today =(`
`15:12.05`	`Wobin`	`I should have taken the week off =P`
`15:12.07`	`Gngsk`	`go to sleep then :p`
`15:12.14`	`Antiarc`	`Tuesday morning and I'm at work :P`
`15:12.21`	`Wobin`	`Oh, we have Boxing Day`
`15:12.25`	`Wobin`	`which is a public holiday`
`15:12.39`	`Wobin`	`<3 4 day weekends`
`15:12.58`	`Wobin`	`Although, I think I'm broken`
`15:13.13`	`Wobin`	`I already feel like this has been a stupidly long holiday`
`15:13.27`	`Wobin`	`and it's only been four days =P`
`15:15.29`	`deltron`	`3 days off here`
`15:15.50`	`deltron`	`I had my sleeping schedule all wack, going to bed at 7am, waking at 1pm heh`
`15:16.30`	`Gngsk`	`Wobin, oh yea one other thing I was going to ask you. Do you think auto destroy functionality is within the scope of MrPlow?`
`15:16.33`	`deltron`	`http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/391 <-- lol`
`15:16.38`	`kenlyric`	`meh, so tired of this tiny casting bar.`
`15:16.46`	`Wobin`	`kenlyric: OCB`
`15:16.52`	`Wobin`	`Gngsk: hm`
`15:16.52`	`kenlyric`	`I'm lazy.`
`15:17.05`	`Wobin`	`What defines what to destroy?`
`15:17.06`	`kenlyric`	`WAU or bust... though right now it's bust, so I might have to anyway.`
`15:17.23`	`Amadeo`	`I wish I knew why my mouse was so highly inaccurate`
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`15:17.54`	`Wobin`	`Perhaps you are holding it upside down`
`15:17.59`	`Amadeo`	`Damn! I knew it!`
`15:17.59`	`Gngsk`	`Wobin, atm I'm using AutoDestroy by the author of ChatEventMonitor, it uses a user populated list and some other settings like weapon/armor 'color' threshold`
`15:18.18`	`Wobin`	`It's probably a little out of scope`
`15:18.22`	`Fisker-`	`DOUBLE THE DATA FORCE!!!`
`15:18.23`	`Gngsk`	`kk`
`15:18.27`	`kenlyric`	`I would just use garbagefu, since I have it already.`
`15:18.59`	`Wobin`	`(ie, the effort required to integrate that sort of filtering would be excessive beyond what MrPlow is originally designed to do =P)`
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`15:21.23`	`Gngsk`	`maybe I'll ask Torrin/Torrid if I can port it to Ace2, would be nice to have profiles`
`15:21.39`	`kenlyric`	`you might check out garbagefu if you haven't already gngsk. It has what I would call "a lot" of options for what to destroy/keep/vendor.`
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`15:22.14`	smx`	`hi someone here who can talk german ?`
`15:22.21`	`kenlyric`	`I find the autosell of greyitems the most convenient feature of the mod.`
`15:22.44`	`deltron`	`nein`
`15:22.46`	`Gngsk`	`I have automaton for that`
`15:23.01`	`Gngsk`	`I never tried GarbageFu cuz yoss said he didn't like it`
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`15:24.26`	`Amadeo`	`Does anyone actually like mouse acceleration? Am I the only one who hates it?`
`15:24.38`	`Smeltn`	`I use the CPL mouse fix to get rid of it`
`15:24.48`	`Amadeo`	`what's that?`
`15:25.07`	`Smeltn`	`it disables it`
`15:25.20`	`Amadeo`	`I might have to get that`
`15:25.31`	`Smeltn`	`The CPL Mouse Fix allows Windows XP users to counter-act the effects if locked mouse acceleration in Windows XP. This registry file is designed to fix only`
`15:25.59`	`Smeltn`	`The CPL Mouse Fix allows Windows XP users to counter-act the effects if locked mouse acceleration in Windows XP. This registry file is designed to fix only the problem associated with Windows XP. Use on operating systems other than Windows XP is at the sole risk of the user.`
`15:26.54`	`Ordog`	`uhm there a sliderbar in the driver menu to disable it? :)`
`15:27.00`	`Ordog`	`is*`
`15:27.12`	smx`	`can someome help me with ag_uf ?`
`15:28.17`	`usz`	~seen Funkeh`
`15:28.39`	`purl`	funkeh` <n=funkydud@host81-129-20-216.range81-129.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 10h 31m 29s ago, saying: 'nn folks, merry christmas'.
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`15:29.28`	`Smeltn`	`anyone know anything about irc?`
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`15:29.52`	`kenlyric`	`never heard of it.`
`15:30.05`	`kenlyric`	`is it some sort of hovercraft?`
`15:30.44`	`neenee`	smx`: Just ask your question directly.
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`15:34.40`	smx`	i try it neenee =) i`ve got the problem that wow blocks ag_uf everytime i loot a mob
`15:34.55`	`jaete`	`argh, this stuff is a lot trickier than i thought`
`15:35.22`	`cynyr`	smx`: if you disable it does that message go away?
`15:35.32`	smx`	`yes`
`15:35.32`	`jaete`	`like cone of cold. first off, it's supposed to be 335-365, but my ui says 338-368`
`15:36.03`	`jaete`	`and the actual damage range is bigger, i'm getting 427-471 with +539 and that *1.03 talent`
`15:36.50`	`jaete`	`that's a difference of over 40, instead of 30, even taking into account the talent >.<`
`15:36.57`	smx`	when i loot human mobs i`ve got no problems only on wildbeasts ( i hope this is the english word )
`15:37.25`	`jaete`	`don't seem to find a good coefficient for it... 1.5/3.5 * 1/3 * 0.95 fits almost, but not quite, it doesn't explain the 471 max for example`
`15:37.53`	`jaete`	`with that coefficient it should be 454 max`
`15:38.01`	`kenlyric`	`hmmm.. my bugsack just went crazy.`
`15:38.18`	`cynyr`	smx`: do you have bugsack and buggrabber installed?
`15:38.18`	`jaete`	`could be it's just 1.5/3.5 * 1/3 but needs more testing`
`15:38.25`	`kenlyric`	`anyone know what the second number bugsack shows is?`
`15:38.25`	smx`	`yes`
`15:38.35`	`cynyr`	`getting any error from those?`
`15:38.38`	smx`	`no`
`15:38.43`	smx`	`or mom i look`
`15:39.07`	smx`	`no error`
`15:39.11`	`Makk`	`16:29 <@Angeris> very useful addon`
`15:39.11`	`Makk`	16:32 <+Makk`> thanks, assface
`15:39.15`	`Makk`	`oi`
`15:39.19`	`Makk`	`http://kul-tiras.vossi.at/forums/showthread.php?t=2497`
`15:39.22`	`Makk`	`there we go :P`
`15:39.26`	`Makk`	`gtg now`
`15:40.56`	smx`	`ag_UnitFrames has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI. You can disable this addon and reload the UI. <-- this msg comes everytime`
`15:41.43`	`cynyr`	`that just means that it is using a protected function.. do you have the newest version of agUF?`
`15:41.46`	`Gngsk`	`~emulate ag`
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`15:42.13`	`Hjalte`	smx`: It doesnt have to be ag_unitframes doing it. It might just be the libraries. Do you have any loot addons?
`15:42.32`	smx`	oehm yes i`ve got a loot addon
`15:42.37`	`Gngsk`	~emulate ag`
`15:42.38`	`purl`	`No, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it`
`15:42.43`	smx`	`but why it comes not when i loot humans`
`15:42.52`	`Gngsk`	smx`, :D
`15:43.11`	`cynyr`	`humans aren't skinable for starters`
`15:45.46`	`haste`	`If you hovered a piece of text, and it changed color - would you then click it?`
`15:46.03`	`Hjalte`	`Depends on what the text said oO'`
`15:46.17`	`haste`	`hehe`
`15:46.24`	`Aileen_`	`If it said "click here to shard all ur purplz" maybe not :)`
`15:46.25`	`haste`	`It would for example say: Instant Poison VI`
`15:46.40`	smx`	`ok the problem was xloot or fruityloots`
`15:46.47`	`Gngsk`	`if it changed color and from normal to bold, then i would`
`15:47.07`	`Hjalte`	smx`: It's a very bad idea to have both loaded...
`15:47.17`	`haste`	`It won't become bold`
`15:47.25`	`haste`	`that's extra work for almost nothing :)`
`15:47.25`	`Hjalte`	`haste: if it looked nice, i might even click it twice!`
`15:47.35`	`Aileen_`	`I don't have any problems with FruityLoots, so it might be XLoot`
`15:47.47`	`Gngsk`	`fine, then I won't click it!`
`15:47.56`	`haste`	`heh`
`15:48.01`	smx`	`i try a newer version of fruityloots`
`15:48.06`	`haste`	`I'll add some instructions also then`
`15:48.31`	`cynyr`	`haste: are you making an addon to put poisons on?`
`15:48.39`	`Hjalte`	smx`: Only load one. Either fruityloots or xloot.
`15:48.41`	`haste`	`I will`
`15:48.49`	`cynyr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:48.52`	`Gngsk`	`haste, any particular reason for going away from dewdrop? it works very well for me as it is`
`15:48.53`	`haste`	`Right now I'm working on Atropine, which is oTravi rewritten`
`15:49.04`	`haste`	`Gngsk: It's huge like PS3`
`15:49.10`	`Gngsk`	`lol`
`15:49.12`	`cynyr`	`ooo thats good too`
`15:49.14`	`haste`	`I'm dropping all libs in Atropine`
`15:49.15`	`Gngsk`	`you know what I'd even use`
`15:49.22`	smx`	`i try it and thanks for your help =)`
`15:49.23`	`Gngsk`	`freerefills style poison thing`
`15:49.32`	`Gngsk`	`set it to know I always want 40 of X type of poison`
`15:49.37`	`Gngsk`	`and when I go to a vendor it just buys what I need`
`15:49.41`	`haste`	`Gngsk: you know, it's something that was planned for oTravi`
`15:49.46`	`haste`	`Gngsk: which is why it had the refill option`
`15:49.50`	`haste`	`which Atropine also has`
`15:49.54`	`Gngsk`	`yea, I noticed that`
`15:50.00`	`Gngsk`	`and I use it :)`
`15:51.02`	`cynyr`	`altho i noticed the refill option doesn't work for flash powder`
`15:51.15`	`haste`	`Gngsk: anyway, regarding dewdrop on oTravi... it was: AceLibrary + AceOO + AceAddon + AceConsole + AceEvent + Dewdrop`
`15:51.15`	`Gngsk`	`I have free refills setup for flash powder`
`15:51.26`	`haste`	`Gngsk: right now it's nothing`
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`15:51.45`	`Gngsk`	`shrug I already have those in memory, but I see your point`
`15:53.25`	`kenlyric`	`well, that's true of every single Ace2 mod...`
`15:53.27`	`haste`	`Gngsk: well, oTravi without libs is larger then Atropine`
`15:54.16`	`Gngsk`	`how would you feel about someone say, ripping your refill code and adding it to freerefills?`
`15:54.36`	`haste`	`I thought freerefills alraedy refilled`
`15:54.46`	`haste`	`but go ahead :)`
`15:54.47`	`Gngsk`	`as far as I know it doesn't do poisons`
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`15:58.09`	`CIA-17`	`03shiftos * r22220 10GloryLib/ (Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc Lib/GloryLib.lua):`
`15:58.09`	`CIA-17`	`GloryLib:`
`15:58.09`	`CIA-17`	`- added spanish (esES) translation`
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`16:06.53`	`Hjalte`	`Bah. Glorylib makes me think of certain dirty movies.. >.<`
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`16:11.26`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r22221 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned EQCompare; Fixed Tooltip skinning; Fixed Frames still being skinned when none selected; Fixed ContainerFrame option bug`
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`16:14.53`	`phreaky`	`Any1 using Cooldowntimers2 ?`
`16:18.52`	`Saroz`	`no`
`16:18.55`	`Saroz`	`let me know if it's any good`
`16:19.05`	`phreaky`	`yeah it works nice =)`
`16:19.15`	`phreaky`	`Just had a few questions about the settings to the author :)`
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`16:21.09`	vid`	`hmm`
`16:21.25`	vid`	`whats up with atlasloot being 12.5MB`
`16:21.26`	vid`	`the new one`
`16:21.27`	vid`	`lol`
`16:22.01`	vid`	`AtlasOutdoorRaids / AtlasLootFu / AtlasLoot / AtlasFlightPaths / AtlasDungeonLocs / AtlasBattlegrounds / Atlas`
`16:22.03`	vid`	`hmm`
`16:22.07`	vid`	`atlaslootfu?`
`16:22.08`	vid`	`;P`
`16:23.26`	`deltron`	`the textures are huge now`
`16:23.30`	`deltron`	`since they are in .bmp`
`16:23.31`	`kagaro`	`you guys think i should rename noteshare to datashare instead?`
`16:24.01`	`deltron`	`what's it do?`
`16:24.03`	`deltron`	`share data?`
`16:24.24`	`kagaro`	`right now shares your gathering notes, instnace notes and poi's with other cartographer users`
`16:24.55`	`kenlyric`	`CartographerShare`
`16:25.01`	`deltron`	`in it's own channel?`
`16:25.06`	`kagaro`	`addon channel`
`16:25.27`	`deltron`	`oh yeah...`
`16:25.36`	`kagaro`	`i originally named it Cartographer_Share , but for some reason adding Share or Sharing to the AceOptions table made it not show up`
`16:26.24`	`kagaro`	`i was also thinking to maybe rename it to DataManager .. give it some more functions like clear all notes on current selected map, searching of notes .. things like that`
`16:26.34`	`yacoob`	`DataHerder`
`16:26.49`	`yacoob`	`remember, all ace2 mods must have cool names.`
`16:27.04`	`deltron`	`like web 2.0 websites heh`
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`16:27.28`	`yacoob`	`deltron, no, Chatr is not ace2...`
`16:27.33`	`yacoob`	`...or is it, AKX? :)`
`16:27.35`	`CIA-17`	`03ominous * r22222 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`16:27.35`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_RogueTimerFu:`
`16:27.35`	`CIA-17`	`-Added Master of Sublerty`
`16:27.35`	`CIA-17`	`-Made Modules stay disabled if you disable them`
`16:27.53`	`deltron`	`sublerty eh?`
`16:27.59`	`kagaro`	`rofl`
`16:28.01`	`Saroz`	`Anyone here done work on babble-spell?`
`16:28.04`	`Ominous`	`woops`
`16:28.10`	`yacoob`	`Subleerty.`
`16:28.28`	`Ominous`	`subtlety*`
`16:28.53`	`kagaro`	`lunch time!`
`16:30.34`	`Ominous`	`saroz: yes 1 change`
`16:31.19`	`Neriak`	`man simpleMinimap is driving me nuts`
`16:32.14`	`Antiarc`	`Blast. There isn't a way to open/populate a tradeskill window without a click, is there?`
`16:32.21`	`Antiarc`	`Or a keypress, whatever.`
`16:33.53`	`Neriak`	`~seen arjuna`
`16:34.12`	`purl`	`arjuna <n=arjuna@pool-162-83-108-54.culp.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 13h 31m 22s ago, saying: 'right in the center, try left-click and dragging...right over ur toon's head'.`
`16:34.13`	`Neriak`	`simpleMinimap:`
`16:34.13`	`Neriak`	`- modules are now local, explicit library declarations`
`16:34.15`	`Neriak`	`this is evil!`
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`16:34.36`	`Neriak`	`can't get access to the skins anymore .. major sucks ass`
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`16:34.41`	`Boobies4u`	`~seen ckknight`
`16:34.44`	`purl`	`ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (3h 44m 53s) #wowace (3h 44m 53s), last said: 'it only took me 4'.`
`16:34.55`	`Boobies4u`	`4 what? valiums?`
`16:35.04`	`Neriak`	`dollars`
`16:35.17`	`Gngsk`	`to make the pet feeding addon?`
`16:35.21`	`Boobies4u`	`no`
`16:35.24`	`Boobies4u`	`he got 20 dollar for that`
`16:35.28`	`Gngsk`	`kek`
`16:35.29`	`Boobies4u`	`i got too much money :(`
`16:35.48`	`Boobies4u`	`after i stopped smoking weed i feel like a millionary`
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`16:38.40`	`Saroz`	`I need to add "Gift of Life" to babble-spell -.-`
`16:39.44`	`Ominous`	`what happened to AceUtils-Misc-2.0?`
`16:39.54`	`jkw`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:39.58`	`jkw`	`[17:32] < Antiarc> \| Blast. There isn't a way to open/populate a tradeskill window without a click, is there? Dhraga`
`16:40.02`	`jkw`	`[17:32] < Antiarc> \| Or a keypress, whatever. Dia1`
`16:40.06`	`jkw`	`[17:34] < Neriak> \| man simpleMinimap is driving me nuts de\|kip`
`16:40.10`	`jkw`	`[17:32] < Antiarc> \| Blast. There isn't a way to open/populate a tradeskill window without a click, is there? Dhraga`
`16:40.13`	`Antiarc`	`...`
`16:40.14`	`jkw`	`[17:32] < Antiarc> \| Or a keypress, whatever. Dia1`
`16:40.18`	`jkw`	`[17:34] < Neriak> \| man simpleMinimap is driving me nuts de\|kip`
`16:40.22`	`jkw`	`[17:32] < Antiarc> \| Blast. There isn't a way to open/populate a tradeskill window without a click, is there? Dhraga`
`16:40.26`	`jkw`	`[17:32] < Antiarc> \| Or a keypress, whatever. Dia1`
`16:40.28`	`odt`	`the madness`
`16:40.32`	`Mikma`	`assplode`
`16:40.43`	`phreaky`	`Calm down Kristian!`
`16:42.40`	`jkw`	`[17:34] < [17:2[17:2`
`16:42.50`	`jkw`	`woops`
`16:43.01`	`jkw`	`Never leave irssi window open when son is around. ><`
`16:43.17`	`neenee`	`:)`
`16:43.27`	`phreaky`	`Right mouse button = paste or something.. isnt it? =)`
`16:43.29`	`Mikma`	`yeah, right ;D`
`16:43.33`	`jkw`	`Indeed`
`16:44.11`	`Eternally777`	`Hey, that was the exact same excuse I used when I ninjaed the Ashbringer!`
`16:44.12`	`jkw`	`Anyways, sorry for the sammage. :S`
`16:44.21`	`Eternally777`	`Great minds think alike ;)`
`16:44.55`	`Eternally777`	`jk, I play a Priest lol`
`16:45.23`	`jkw`	`My son has made some spectacular stuff while I'm afk`
`16:45.41`	`jkw`	`One time he turned on auto-run so I pulled the C'Thun trash and whiped the whole raid.`
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`16:45.45`	`jkw`	`That was love.`
`16:46.40`	`Xogxog`	`jkw, I wouldn't have a son after that.`
`16:46.46`	`Eternally777`	`haha`
`16:47.13`	`jkw`	`He's ~1.5 years old, can't really blame him for his actions`
`16:48.27`	`Xogxog`	`If he's 1.5 years old.. how does he even get a hold of your mouse/keyboard? ;P Are they on the floor?`
`16:48.30`	`Stephmw`	`I have a job for your son... AV - but on the opposite faction :)`
`16:49.39`	`jkw`	`Xogxog: He's walking around like a destruction machine. He makes a massacre of anything he gets his hands on. :P`
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`16:55.16`	vid`	`just ordered my sceptre 22" wide lcd`
`16:55.17`	vid`	`:D`
`16:55.20`	vid`	`i want it now`
`16:55.22`	vid`	`:(`
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`17:01.45`	`Amadeo`	`Sceptre is still around?`
`17:02.05`	`Tem`	vid`, I just got one for christmas
`17:02.09`	`Tem`	`it's awesome`
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`17:06.53`	`Gngsk`	`Tem, would you mind adding a check for UnitIsDeadOrGhost("player") on line 140 of FinderReminder so it doesn't remind you while you're a ghost?`
`17:07.02`	`CIA-17`	`03neriak * r22223 10gfxToggle2/gfxToggle2.lua:`
`17:07.02`	`CIA-17`	`gfxToggle2:`
`17:07.02`	`CIA-17`	`- dirty hack to gain access to simpleMinimaps' textures. note to other addon authors: making your modules local is teh evil! ;)`
`17:07.15`	`Tem`	`Gngsk, update to what I commited last night`
`17:08.05`	`Gngsk`	`:D`
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`17:19.33`	vid`	`tem`
`17:19.37`	vid`	`you got the 22" one?`
`17:19.40`	vid`	`with the hdmi port etc?`
`17:20.03`	vid`	`im trying to snipe a vga cable on ebay now for my xbox360 :D`
`17:20.08`	vid`	`20 mins left`
`17:20.09`	vid`	`hehe`
`17:20.22`	`Tem`	vid`, I'm not sure what all it has yet
`17:20.24`	vid`	`ms sells em for $40 :\`
`17:20.29`	`Tem`	`I only got like 15 minutes with it before we left`
`17:20.32`	vid`	`ahh`
`17:20.40`	`Tem`	`I'll get to play with it tonight when we get back`
`17:20.46`	vid`	`costco.com takes forever to ship tho`
`17:20.50`	vid`	`up to 7 days`
`17:20.58`	vid`	`but their return policy is the best and they were cheapest`
`17:21.14`	vid`	`so i figured i could wait a few extra days to be able to return it if i get a dead pixel`
`17:21.19`	vid`	`cool tem`
`17:21.24`	vid`	`i heard it rocks`
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`17:34.25`	vid`	`http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2243176`
`17:34.28`	vid`	`best thread ever`
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`17:36.15`	`kagaro`	`~seen ckknight`
`17:36.36`	`purl`	`ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (4h 46m 45s) #wowace (4h 46m 45s), last said: 'it only took me 4'.`
`17:36.42`	`Dekuna`	`he's here, isn't he? haha`
`17:37.40`	`kagaro`	`afk though it seems`
`17:39.47`	`Daemona`	`no wonder if its 7:30 am local time ;)`
`17:40.04`	`Boobies4u`	`DEKUNA`
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`17:40.14`	`Boobies4u`	`install dogchow`
`17:40.16`	`Boobies4u`	`best mod out there`
`17:40.58`	`Dekuna`	`lol`
`17:41.24`	`Dekuna`	`i told you though, i'm a tree! we only drink brandy`
`17:42.10`	`Boobies4u`	`pff`
`17:42.12`	`Boobies4u`	`just install it`
`17:42.18`	`Boobies4u`	`just to see how pretty it is`
`17:42.21`	`Dekuna`	`hahaha`
`17:42.29`	`Dekuna`	`maybe i'll roll a hunter or something`
`17:42.47`	`Dekuna`	`is there a screenshot up somewhere? would probably be simpler, lol`
`17:43.31`	`Boobies4u`	`its just 1 single "actionbar" button you drag food into P:`
`17:43.33`	`Boobies4u`	`:P`
`17:43.34`	`Boobies4u`	`haha`
`17:43.58`	`Boobies4u`	`and single click it when pet isent very happy! to feed him!, it disables when he is happy`
`17:45.04`	`Xogxog`	`I remember a mod like that. ;P`
`17:45.25`	`Xogxog`	`It had an option to change the size of the button and stuff, too.`
`17:46.41`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`17:46.46`	`ckknight`	`not here for long`
`17:47.11`	`Xogxog`	`Is it 'cause you don't love us anymore?`
`17:47.36`	`ckknight`	`mmm`
`17:47.37`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`17:47.50`	`ckknight`	`that, and I have work and whatnot`
`17:48.01`	`Dekuna`	`:o :(`
`17:49.27`	`Xogxog`	`I knew it.`
`17:49.36`	`ckknight`	`okay, for Macs, how do I get the home/end keys to work how they do in Windows?`
`17:50.03`	`kagaro`	`remap them`
`17:50.18`	`ckknight`	`how?`
`17:50.32`	`gxam`	`ckknight: http://macromates.com/blog/archives/2005/07/05/key-bindings-for-switchers/`
`17:51.27`	`kagaro`	`ohh that reminds me i need to remap my mouse setup, ctrl + scrollwheel zooms the entire mac desktop .. forogot about it last night when i went to zoom in on the map`
`17:52.05`	`deltron`	`http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=213`
`17:52.09`	`deltron`	`lol`
`17:55.33`	`kagaro`	`ckknight: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2056.html`
`17:56.05`	`deltron`	`too late!`
`17:56.07`	`deltron`	`heh`
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`18:06.44`	vid`	`oh nice`
`18:06.57`	vid`	`ClassCololrs`
`18:07.00`	vid`	`er ClassColors`
`18:07.02`	vid`	`thank god i can change the shaman color :P`
`18:09.20`	`kagaro`	`guess i need to do some work on the Cart Notes .. sharing is causing .. spammmmmm`
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`18:16.04`	`Ominous`	`does anyone know how you delete an accoutn on wowinterface?`
`18:16.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`most likely, you can't do that yourself`
`18:16.44`	`Gnarfoz`	`I only know one single bb/forum software that allows the user to delete his own account`
`18:16.50`	`Hjalte`	`Can anyone recommend me an addon to move my mail-icon on my minimap?`
`18:17.04`	`Ominous`	`k`
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`18:17.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`Ominous: but I guess you can just ask one of the admins ^^`
`18:18.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`some even are in #wowi-lounge`
`18:18.31`	`yacoob`	`Hjalte, visor`
`18:19.01`	`Hjalte`	`Hmm. Isn't that a kind of big for just one little need? :)`
`18:19.46`	vid`	`visor2gui work for anyone else?`
`18:20.03`	`Smeltn`	`ok`
`18:20.06`	`Smeltn`	`thats it`
`18:20.10`	`Smeltn`	`I am sick and tired of Trinity`
`18:20.14`	`Smeltn`	`whats a good bar mod?`
`18:20.19`	vid`	`bartender3`
`18:20.26`	vid`	`w/ cyCircled`
`18:20.27`	vid`	`!`
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`18:20.28`	`Smeltn`	`bongos is what i used to use`
`18:20.34`	`Smeltn`	`what makes b3 better?`
`18:20.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`try bongos, then`
`18:20.39`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's updated, too`
`18:20.43`	`Smeltn`	`well I mean`
`18:20.48`	`Smeltn`	`what makes bongos and b3 different?`
`18:20.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`they are different mods, I guess :D`
`18:20.59`	vid`	`BT3 = ace'd, Bongos is not`
`18:21.02`	vid`	`and the authors are diff`
`18:21.03`	vid`	`:P`
`18:21.11`	vid`	`they are both bar mods!`
`18:21.14`	vid`	`thats about all i can tell you`
`18:21.16`	vid`	`i never used bongos`
`18:21.29`	`ggilbert`	`both are nice bar mods`
`18:21.37`	vid`	`i use BT3/AutoBar/cyCircled`
`18:21.44`	`Smeltn`	`I REALLY loved the circle bars on trinity`
`18:21.48`	`Smeltn`	`with the gloss`
`18:21.51`	`Gnarfoz`	`autobar has some issues till, though`
`18:21.55`	`Xogxog`	`I use Bongos and cyCircled.`
`18:21.56`	`Smeltn`	`the cycircled`
`18:21.58`	`Smeltn`	`isnt like that`
`18:22.10`	`Xogxog`	`Used to use BT3, though.`
`18:22.17`	`Smeltn`	`so whch do you like best Xog`
`18:22.19`	`Smeltn`	`and why?`
`18:22.19`	`ggilbert`	`the biggest difference that I really notice is control over bar size and the number of them`
`18:22.29`	ag`	`what is trinity btw? Another bar addon?`
`18:22.36`	`Smeltn`	`yes`
`18:22.36`	ag`	`How does the three compare?`
`18:22.40`	`Smeltn`	`but its complicated`
`18:22.45`	`Smeltn`	`but has a ton of options ag`
`18:22.48`	vid`	`yea ive seen trinity`
`18:22.56`	vid`	`it has too many options haha`
`18:23.15`	`Smeltn`	`you can hide bars till mouse over etc`
`18:23.15`	`Xogxog`	`So far I'm liking Bongos better than BT3 'cause BT3 apparently didn't like me and was giving me issues. ;P`
`18:23.15`	`Smeltn`	`but it does have too many options`
`18:23.16`	`Smeltn`	`yeah bongos was EASY ot set up and use`
`18:23.19`	`Smeltn`	`b3 gave me problems too`
`18:23.32`	vid`	`bt3 is working great as of like a week ago`
`18:23.37`	vid`	`most of the bugs ironed out`
`18:23.48`	vid`	`at least me as a mage`
`18:23.53`	vid`	`i dont need stance shit etc`
`18:23.55`	`Smeltn`	`yeah I use mage also`
`18:24.56`	`snurre-`	`uhm, where do i find keybindings in bt3 now?`
`18:25.09`	`snurre-`	`it keeps getting moved around`
`18:25.16`	`ZOAS\|away`	`Pick either Bongos or BT3, download one, try it out. (I prefer and suggest Bongos, personally). If it doesn't work for you/you don't like it, try another.`
`18:25.33`	`ZOAS\|away`	`There's also MarsMod which has MarsBars, and CogsBar, and Nurfed . . .`
`18:25.47`	`ggilbert`	`so no clue where the current bindings are`
`18:26.38`	vid`	`i keep almost as much as i can ace'd just sinec it all uses shared libs`
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`18:26.50`	vid`	`keeps the overhead lower`
`18:27.25`	vid`	`only a few that i dont, like i use NECB over Chronometer/Antagonist because i want the casting bars to share the same frame, etc`
`18:27.27`	`Hjalte`	`Does Bongos support changing bars on target status? Friendly, unfriendly etc.`
`18:27.47`	vid`	`afaik, bars cant change in combat anymore`
`18:28.02`	vid`	`unless you can place 2 bars over one another, and hide one, display another etc`
`18:28.07`	`ggilbert`	`I think it just does stances`
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`18:28.48`	`Hjalte`	`Then I'll just stick with Bartender3.. Work's great for me.`
`18:29.33`	`Mikma`	`bjarntender haha`
`18:29.48`	`Xogxog`	`Beartender?`
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`18:30.09`	`neenee`	`;)`
`18:30.11`	`neenee`	`*beer`
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`18:31.17`	ag`	`I've looked over the pages for trinity and bongos`
`18:31.32`	ag`	`tbh it still looks like bt3 is what fits me the most`
`18:31.48`	ag`	`Maybe it's the inferface, I don't know`
`18:31.54`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`18:32.01`	ag`	`but I have gotten quite used to the dewdrops`
`18:32.16`	`ggilbert`	`the dewdrops?`
`18:32.38`	ag`	`menu system many ace addon uses`
`18:32.42`	`ggilbert`	`ah`
`18:33.28`	ag`	`from looking on the addon pages I wasn't exactly sure if bongos or trinity could switch pages on bars by holding down a modifier key`
`18:33.31`	`ckknight`	`frankly, I think Dewdrops are great, as long as people use em properly`
`18:33.32`	ag`	`they probably can though`
`18:33.34`	vid`	`i know 0 lua, but could something like this work? this is just for logic - if incombat() { hidebar(1); showbar(2); } else { hidebar(2); showbar(1); }`
`18:34.02`	vid`	`or is something like hiding/showing bars restricted`
`18:34.06`	`ckknight`	`if InCombatLockdown() then Bar1:Hide(); Bar2:Show() else Bar2:Hide(); Bar1:Show() end`
`18:34.24`	`ckknight`	vid`: if they're protected, then you'll need to do it on the PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED/PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED events.
`18:34.35`	vid`	`ah yea thats what i was wondering`
`18:34.56`	vid`	`again i know 0 lua, just was curious`
`18:35.02`	vid`	`i need to mess around one of these days`
`18:35.07`	vid`	`and just write something`
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`18:35.27`	vid`	`probably easier with the ace framework to get rolling since most of the hard work is done`
`18:35.38`	`ckknight`	`mmm... yep`
`18:36.16`	vid`	`i coded for several years in multiple languages so i could prob pick it up, just wasnt for me. i like it but not as a living :)`
`18:36.18`	vid`	`hobby its fine`
`18:36.39`	`Xogxog`	vid`, I agree. ;P
`18:36.55`	`Xogxog`	`It's nice as a hobby, couldn't stand it for a living. ;)`
`18:37.21`	vid`	`yea well, a project like this is great too becuase a lot of people would get use out of your project if its something useful and functional`
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`18:37.39`	ag`	`hehe`
`18:37.42`	`Ominous`	`hmm what is the best way to deal with the problem of tracking buffs on you and timing how long they have left if you want to re-apply them before they ahve runout as then ther eis no combat log evetn`
`18:37.51`	vid`	`if you code something that actually has use and isnt retarded looking and easy to use, people will find it here and use it`
`18:37.59`	ag`	`I think the koreans that monitors our SVN are great`
`18:38.08`	ag`	`this fix all my locales`
`18:38.12`	vid`	`not like some other stuff you spend a lot of time on and only you use it, no one else finds it or it has no practical application`
`18:38.20`	ag`	`too bad I don't see them hang out on IRC`
`18:38.33`	`Xogxog`	`kek`
`18:38.34`	vid`	`lol`
`18:38.43`	vid`	`yea i always see commits for korean updates`
`18:38.56`	vid`	`especially with like bigwigs`
`18:39.07`	`Xogxog`	`I want oCD back. :~(`
`18:39.24`	vid`	`its still around, just haste pulled it`
`18:39.31`	vid`	`you can get it from his website`
`18:39.35`	vid`	`whatever it is i forget :P`
`18:39.38`	ag`	`I want oCB back, I dare not type svn update oCB`
`18:39.57`	vid`	`hehe`
`18:40.00`	vid`	`thats whats nice about WAU :P`
`18:40.08`	ag`	`I still think he should put his stuff back and have kaelten write protect it`
`18:40.14`	ag`	`srsly`
`18:40.24`	vid`	`yea definately`
`18:40.31`	`Xogxog`	`Or my life is forfeit.`
`18:40.32`	`Codayus`	`Indeed...`
`18:40.38`	vid`	`everyone who has ace'd mods should use SVN too :P`
`18:40.39`	`kenlyric`	`whatever lets me update it with wau. :)`
`18:40.41`	ag`	`But I guess I am not the one to decide that. I just wished he had approached kaelten before pulling his addons`
`18:40.53`	`Codayus`	`Srsly.`
`18:40.53`	vid`	`make a license agreement for ace and have people have to use the svn as part of it :P`
`18:40.58`	vid`	`lol`
`18:41.31`	`Xogxog`	`So, if I know a good deal of PHP and Python, where's a good place to start with Lua?`
`18:41.38`	vid`	`no idea`
`18:41.43`	vid`	`thats where i am most skilled too`
`18:41.52`	vid`	`as my last coding job was VB/PHP/etc`
`18:41.54`	vid`	`easy shit`
`18:41.58`	ag`	`Xogxog: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon`
`18:42.19`	vid`	`see my thing would be debugging`
`18:42.23`	vid`	`must be a pain to debug in wow`
`18:42.25`	`Xogxog`	Also, since I haven't yet, I just have to say that agUF makes me happy in the pants, ag`. Great work. ;P
`18:42.37`	ag`	`thanks`
`18:42.45`	vid`	`yep i use aguf too ^_^`
`18:42.49`	ag`	`still some parts lacking that I simply can't get started with :P`
`18:43.05`	vid`	`all i need is perfectraid`
`18:43.11`	vid`	`and i will be happy in the pants too :P`
`18:43.11`	ag`	`need to improve the custom tag system to use events, I need to make party pets work, and I need to rewrite the aura system`
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`18:43.35`	vid`	`whats wrong with the aura system?`
`18:43.38`	`Xogxog`	`Also.. adding Miles' mecb makes it even more happy in pants. ;P`
`18:43.39`	vid`	`seems to work great`
`18:43.57`	vid`	`whats mecb?`
`18:44.01`	vid`	`like necb? :P`
`18:44.02`	ag`	`I'd like it to be able to seperate buffs from debuffs`
`18:44.09`	vid`	`ahh ag`
`18:44.13`	ag`	`and to have a 5th position, inside`
`18:44.20`	`Xogxog`	vid`, it sticks a casting bar on the agUF frames. ;P Like for you, your target, party etc.
`18:44.22`	ag`	`also the scaling+width of frame is wacky`
`18:44.28`	`Xogxog`	`Like the Blizzard enemy casting bar thing.`
`18:44.42`	vid`	`hmm`
`18:44.55`	vid`	`i havent seen it yet`
`18:44.58`	vid`	`ive heard of it`
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`18:44.59`	`kenlyric`	`I like antagonist casting bars better :) More info.`
`18:45.11`	`Xogxog`	vid`, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5488
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`18:45.45`	`Smeltn`	`anyone else have the problem that autobar updates EVERY single time you update using aceupdater?`
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`18:47.34`	vid`	`Xogxog: it shows casting bars for your party`
`18:47.34`	vid`	`?`
`18:47.43`	vid`	`like what they are casting even if you dont have them targeted?`
`18:47.50`	ag`	`it can yes`
`18:47.56`	`kenlyric`	`omg that sounds hot.`
`18:47.57`	vid`	`oh neat`
`18:48.00`	`Saroz`	`WTB NURFED CASTING BARS IN AG!!!`
`18:48.04`	`Xogxog`	vid`, yeah.
`18:48.12`	`kenlyric`	`WTB nothing nurfed.`
`18:48.15`	`Xogxog`	`lol`
`18:48.16`	vid`	`i run NECB also`
`18:48.19`	vid`	`wonder if its gonna cause a mess`
`18:48.21`	vid`	`ill try it out tho`
`18:48.23`	`Saroz`	`nurfed party casting bars are hot`
`18:48.27`	`mjc`	`nurfed raped my brain`
`18:48.28`	vid`	`cause i'd love to have party casting abrs`
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`18:48.50`	`Xogxog`	vid`, it's a frickin' diamond in the rough. ;P It needs some polishing love but it already rocks socks.
`18:49.07`	vid`	`hehe`
`18:49.21`	`Saroz`	`mEnemyCastbar does too much for me`
`18:49.28`	vid`	`its ace but not on svn!?`
`18:49.28`	vid`	`omg`
`18:49.31`	vid`	`another one`
`18:49.35`	vid`	`killkillkill!`
`18:49.35`	vid`	`hehe`
`18:49.37`	`Xogxog`	`Saroz, too much? ;P`
`18:49.38`	ag`	`keell`
`18:49.41`	`Saroz`	`yah`
`18:49.44`	`ckknight`	`I've wondered that if I were to write a UF how it would be, but then I realize that I'd rather just use something that already existed instead of dealing with making my own`
`18:49.48`	`Saroz`	`ENEMEY castingbars, dont need that`
`18:49.50`	`Saroz`	`need nurfed bars`
`18:49.52`	`Saroz`	`they are hot`
`18:49.53`	vid`	`Miles\|zzz: put menemycastbar on svn imo~~`
`18:50.05`	`Xogxog`	`Saroz, que?`
`18:50.13`	`Saroz`	`wha`
`18:50.21`	`Xogxog`	`Saroz, what's 'too much', though?`
`18:50.22`	`mjc`	`Saroz: you don't belong here`
`18:50.22`	ag`	`ckknight: just poke me with suggestions`
`18:50.29`	`Saroz`	`haters`
`18:50.30`	vid`	`theres also AtlasLootFu now`
`18:50.34`	`ckknight`	ag`: fix your defaults, they are horrible.
`18:50.36`	vid`	`to put atlas loot on fubar`
`18:50.39`	`ckknight`	`way too small.`
`18:50.42`	`mjc`	`ew @ atlas*`
`18:50.45`	vid`	`:(`
`18:50.47`	ag`	`ckknight: it's true, I know`
`18:50.55`	vid`	`yea i use cart now`
`18:50.56`	`mjc`	`cartographer hands atlas its ass`
`18:51.03`	ag`	`ckknight: anything else?`
`18:51.04`	`ckknight`	ag`: my brother stopped using it because of it, until I showed him you could change the size
`18:51.11`	`ckknight`	`not off the top of my head`
`18:51.19`	ag`	`okay`
`18:51.22`	`ckknight`	ag`: if you haven't noticed, I've touched the code now and again
`18:51.47`	ag`	`Yeah I've seen it :)`
`18:51.55`	ag`	`I think about checking if C2C is available`
`18:51.58`	`Saroz`	`touch my code prrrr`
`18:52.02`	vid`	`lol`
`18:52.03`	`ckknight`	ag`: hrm, okay
`18:52.05`	ag`	`and then add the menu to aguf menu`
`18:52.14`	`ckknight`	ag`: hrm... could be useful.
`18:52.21`	`ckknight`	`not like it's hard, either`
`18:52.25`	`ckknight`	`just a table reference`
`18:52.31`	ag`	`nope, it's very easy and simple`
`18:52.31`	`mjc`	ag`: I dumped agUF for grid. :(
`18:52.48`	`Saroz`	`mjc, you don't belong here`
`18:52.50`	ag`	`mjc: I use both`
`18:52.53`	vid`	`i cant get into grid myself`
`18:53.01`	vid`	`aguf works well enough to decurse`
`18:53.02`	`mjc`	`Saroz: grid is ace2`
`18:53.04`	vid`	`whole frame turns purple`
`18:53.20`	vid`	`and then i use clique to decurse, i gotta try out ck's new one`
`18:53.21`	`mjc`	`aguf is too large for me for decursing, people die`
`18:53.23`	vid`	`c2c`
`18:53.24`	`kagaro`	`i need to load up grid .. healing with perl raid frames hurts`
`18:53.38`	`kenlyric`	`smartbuff windows are tiny.`
`18:53.50`	`kenlyric`	`and I have it there for the autobuffing features anyway.`
`18:53.51`	`mjc`	`kagaro: perl also does not belong here`
`18:54.02`	`Xogxog`	`lol`
`18:54.06`	vid`	`i miss perfectraid :P`
`18:54.13`	vid`	`but actually with my 22" LCD on the way`
`18:54.18`	vid`	`i wont need PRaid anymore prob`
`18:54.22`	vid`	`ill have more real estate`
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`18:54.34`	vid`	`no more 1024x768 res!!`
`18:54.35`	vid`	`yay`
`18:54.38`	vid`	`1680x1050 ftw`
`18:54.42`	`kagaro`	`it still hard to read vid im on a big ass cinema display and it can get crowded`
`18:54.44`	`Xogxog`	`Grid saved my screen realestate.`
`18:54.48`	`ckknight`	`1440x900 isn't bad`
`18:54.50`	`mjc`	`kagaro: change your zoom`
`18:54.58`	`Xogxog`	`1280x1024 (yes).`
`18:54.58`	`kagaro`	`im at 1600x1000`
`18:55.01`	vid`	`well`
`18:55.01`	`mjc`	`2560x1600 is fine by me.`
`18:55.04`	`kagaro`	`zoomed all the way out`
`18:55.05`	`ckknight`	`lol, mjc`
`18:55.09`	vid`	`i got so much shit on my screen`
`18:55.11`	vid`	`it would make you BARF`
`18:55.17`	vid`	`cause my screen is so tight`
`18:55.23`	vid`	`sec ill put up an SS`
`18:55.24`	`Xogxog`	uNF uNF, vid`
`18:55.27`	vid`	`im so used to it it doesnt bother me`
`18:55.35`	vid`	`but you guys will throw a shitfit when i put up an SS`
`18:55.37`	vid`	`:P`
`18:55.38`	`mjc`	`ckknight: well it is`
`18:55.38`	ag`	`one thing though ckknight`
`18:55.52`	ag`	`in c2c we do dew:Refresh(level)`
`18:56.00`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`18:56.00`	ag`	`but if I add it to the aguf menu for example`
`18:56.02`	`kagaro`	`i dont play full screen though, otherwise i cant use vent with the mac client`
`18:56.05`	`ckknight`	`right`
`18:56.07`	ag`	`it will be another level right?`
`18:56.11`	`ckknight`	`yea, it will`
`18:56.13`	`mjc`	`kagaro: ?`
`18:56.18`	`mjc`	`kagaro: works for me`
`18:56.28`	`ckknight`	ag`:
`18:56.30`	`snurre-`	`windowed maximized ftw`
`18:56.32`	`kagaro`	`did they fix the PTT button problem?`
`18:56.39`	`mjc`	`never had a problem with it`
`18:56.40`	`ckknight`	ag`: I think a better fix would be to fix Dewdrop properly.
`18:56.44`	`ckknight`	`hehe ;-)`
`18:57.20`	`kagaro`	`i had a problem a build back or so ago, where it wouldnt pass key events to background apps when in full screen`
`18:57.29`	`mjc`	`user error`
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`18:57.37`	`mjc`	`you turned off global hotkeys or something like that`
`18:57.38`	`ZOAS\|away`	`Whoever was talking about nurfed party cast bars - mECB does Party cast bars.`
`18:57.45`	vid`	`uploading SS`
`18:57.45`	vid`	`:P`
`18:57.47`	`kagaro`	`mjc: you on PPC or intel?`
`18:57.50`	`mjc`	`intel`
`18:57.54`	`mjc`	`but ppc also`
`18:57.56`	`ZOAS\|away`	`It supports party, target, player I think, and focus, and you can toggle on or off whichever you want.`
`18:57.58`	`ckknight`	`intel ftw`
`18:58.18`	`kagaro`	`i cant replace my ppc, till after tax returns`
`18:58.21`	`mjc`	`ckknight: mac pro really is nice with 5350s`
`18:58.26`	`mjc`	`kagaro: works ifne on my pbg4`
`18:58.32`	`ckknight`	`mjc: what's that?`
`18:58.34`	vid`	`and...... THIS is why I need a bigger res - http://www.saecula.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=116`
`18:58.36`	`mjc`	`ckknight: quads`
`18:58.40`	vid`	`look how messy my shit is :)`
`18:58.43`	ag`	`ckknight: yeah`
`18:58.45`	`ckknight`	`mjc: ah`
`18:58.48`	vid`	`once i get my new monitor im redoing my screen layout`
`18:58.53`	`mjc`	vid`: a lot of duplicate data
`18:58.55`	vid`	`im also gonna get rid of some of my hotkeys`
`18:59.02`	ag`	`ckknight: how are you thinking you would do it?`
`18:59.05`	vid`	`yep`
`18:59.08`	`kagaro`	`im gona get a mac pro .. go go quads`
`18:59.08`	`mjc`	vid`: fubar spacing -> 0
`18:59.08`	`Saroz`	Holy mother of god vid`
`18:59.12`	vid`	`hahaha`
`18:59.13`	vid`	`:P`
`18:59.15`	vid`	`told you`
`18:59.15`	`kenlyric`	`jesus christ!`
`18:59.18`	`snurre-`	vid`: what teh fuck?
`18:59.18`	`kenlyric`	`l2ui`
`18:59.31`	`kagaro`	vid`: thats too busy
`18:59.38`	`kenlyric`	`what is that, 1024x768?`
`18:59.41`	vid`	`yep`
`18:59.45`	`snurre-`	`you can save so much real estate by not having spaces between every single windo`
`18:59.46`	`snurre-`	`w`
`18:59.46`	vid`	`thats why i said i need a bigger monitor`
`18:59.47`	`kenlyric`	`and you're also blind?`
`18:59.51`	`Saroz`	`this is mine: http://random-guild.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_121906_233626.jpg`
`18:59.53`	`ckknight`	ag`: pretty simple value check on refresh, if the group value no longer exists, close the level
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`18:59.55`	`snurre-`	`and scale it down ffs`
`19:00.06`	`Gngsk`	`"How not to setup your UI, by Vidmaster"`
`19:00.11`	vid`	`i told you haha :)`
`19:00.22`	`snurre-`	`http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9182/avft8.jpg mine`
`19:00.27`	`kenlyric`	`you should pop the UI scale down to 85, you see a huge improvement.`
`19:00.32`	`ckknight`	`Saroz: that's not playing WoW. That's looking at bars`
`19:00.37`	`Saroz`	`I run 0.75`
`19:00.42`	`kenlyric`	`god, the sct font is huge!`
`19:00.42`	vid`	`wow jesus thats a huge Res`
`19:00.50`	`Saroz`	`ckknight, I heal in raids, I need bars`
`19:00.50`	vid`	`i cant wait till i can run a big res`
`19:00.52`	`snurre-`	`1680x1050 ftw`
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`19:00.59`	vid`	`my UI will look fine @ 1680x1050`
`19:01.01`	`ckknight`	`Saroz: grid ftw :-P`
`19:01.05`	vid`	`once i clean it up`
`19:01.12`	`Saroz`	`ckknight, thx I got my own raid frames`
`19:01.16`	vid`	`ill use henge etc to get rid of half my hotkeys`
`19:01.17`	`ckknight`	`meh`
`19:01.18`	`snurre-`	`that ui will look shit, regardless of resolution :p`
`19:01.19`	`ckknight`	`it's all good`
`19:01.22`	vid`	`combine chat boxes`
`19:01.33`	vid`	`it only looks like shit because i have so much on the screen :P`
`19:01.36`	`kenlyric`	`I have a widescreen, but never run it full screen because my computer at home isn't widescreen.`
`19:02.23`	`[Liquidor]`	`Possible to format a number to always have 3 digits? 001, 011, 111, 1111 ?`
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`19:02.39`	`[Liquidor]`	`minimum*`
`19:03.03`	`snurre-`	vid`: no, its cause the screen space isnt very well managed imo
`19:03.37`	`kebinusan`	`damn snurre- your lock is a glass cannon`
`19:03.41`	`kebinusan`	`3154 hp`
`19:03.50`	`snurre-`	`dude, my /played is atm 6d 17h`
`19:03.55`	`snurre-`	`havent had time to get any gear :p`
`19:03.57`	vid`	`snurre-: im gonna redo it all`
`19:03.58`	`snurre-`	`im still wearing greens`
`19:04.01`	`kebinusan`	`rofl ok`
`19:04.01`	vid`	`when my 22" comes`
`19:04.09`	`Saroz`	`my /played is 220+ days :(`
`19:04.11`	vid`	`gonna try and make something with skinner / ee panels instead`
`19:04.21`	`Amadeo`	vid`: How much was it?
`19:04.24`	vid`	`try and get rid of 2 rows of bars and mae them hotkeys`
`19:04.39`	vid`	`make raidframes 1 column`
`19:04.44`	vid`	`get map between chat/combatlog`
`19:04.48`	vid`	`etc`
`19:04.56`	`kagaro`	vid`: eePanels ftw http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/washu214/?action=view&current=ScreenShot_122306_195828.jpg
`19:04.58`	vid`	`$330 from costco.com`
`19:05.01`	`kebinusan`	`I like the buttons is that cycircled or something?`
`19:05.07`	`Amadeo`	`not bad`
`19:05.24`	vid`	`kagaro: nice`
`19:05.26`	vid`	`thats what i want to do`
`19:05.33`	ag`	`ckknight: I will just spam dew:Refresh(i) for i = 1,4 until you fix`
`19:05.37`	`kagaro`	`im still working on it, not quite where I want it yet`
`19:05.40`	`ckknight`	k, ag`
`19:06.01`	`kebinusan`	`similar to mine presently I think I need to shrink a chat window or do some chat tabs`
`19:06.02`	`Amadeo`	vid`: Do you know who makes the panel inside?
`19:06.12`	`Elkano`	`btw: ck, fix tablet's icons not scaling ;)`
`19:06.14`	ag`	`though I still think fixing it would improve devdrop a lot`
`19:06.17`	`kagaro`	`kebinusan: trinitybars .. i gota replace them though they bug out alot`
`19:06.20`	`ckknight`	`Elkano: blah.`
`19:06.28`	ag`	`would make dynamic tables easier to make`
`19:06.37`	ag`	`and stuff`
`19:06.55`	`sergio`	`so did live maintainence go well today`
`19:07.03`	`Amadeo`	`oh yeah, I'm curious too`
`19:07.06`	`kagaro`	`no clue @work`
`19:07.06`	vid`	`looks like cyCircled Amadeo`
`19:07.21`	`Amadeo`	vid`: Hehe, I mean the Sceptre :)
`19:07.29`	vid`	`ohh`
`19:07.30`	vid`	`haha`
`19:07.36`	`Amadeo`	`Addon Powered(tm)`
`19:07.36`	vid`	`i forget`
`19:07.45`	vid`	`but its the same as every other 22" LCD`
`19:07.50`	vid`	`all 5 or 6 of them :P`
`19:07.53`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`19:07.55`	vid`	`only 1 panel manufacturer atm`
`19:07.59`	`Amadeo`	`I need a new monitor`
`19:08.02`	vid`	`more are coming out in next omnth or 2`
`19:08.09`	vid`	`sceptre ended up being 370 almost :(`
`19:08.13`	vid`	`$15 shipping`
`19:08.16`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`19:08.22`	vid`	`$25 tax`
`19:08.27`	`Amadeo`	`I'm probably going to wait anyway, since I might start upgrading soon`
`19:08.32`	vid`	`but costco warranty owns`
`19:08.34`	`Amadeo`	`and I'd like to see what happens at CES/etc`
`19:08.36`	vid`	`i can return it like 2 yeras later if i want`
`19:08.39`	vid`	`and get a refund`
`19:08.42`	`Amadeo`	`oh yeah? nice`
`19:08.49`	vid`	`1 dead pixel, no prob refund`
`19:08.58`	vid`	`yea costco is great because you pay for a membership`
`19:09.10`	`Amadeo`	`I'm a member, but I didn't know they had warranties like that`
`19:09.12`	vid`	`my friend exchanged his plasma that blew 2 years later :)`
`19:09.26`	vid`	`yea costco lets you return anything except pc/laptops`
`19:09.33`	`Amadeo`	`nice`
`19:09.33`	vid`	`pc/laptops are 6 months exchange/return`
`19:09.41`	vid`	`which is better than most stores still :P`
`19:09.46`	`Amadeo`	`much better`
`19:10.01`	vid`	`that sceptre monitor is online only tho`
`19:10.08`	vid`	`i went to store and they only carry 20.1 in store`
`19:10.19`	vid`	`the sceptre has HDMI in too which is nice`
`19:10.35`	`Amadeo`	`I'd probably never use that part of it`
`19:10.37`	vid`	`and you can cycle between DVI/HDMI/VGA on it`
`19:10.45`	vid`	`so xbox360->VGA, PC->DVI`
`19:11.05`	vid`	`and 2nd dvi port on PC to this old 19" lcd (old meaning like 1 year old lol)`
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`19:11.30`	vid`	`i really want it more for the 360 so i can run games @ 720p`
`19:11.39`	`Amadeo`	`I don't even have a console`
`19:12.32`	`ckknight`	`anyone know how to get eclipse working on mac?`
`19:13.00`	`Aileen_`	`get it working how?`
`19:13.44`	`kagaro`	`get the universal build`
`19:13.57`	`ckknight`	`I downloaded it, got java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError about libswt`
`19:13.58`	`kagaro`	`the just drop it wher eyou want`
`19:14.06`	`kagaro`	`yeah you didnt get the uniseral build`
`19:14.26`	`ckknight`	`koay`
`19:14.27`	`ckknight`	`okay*`
`19:14.50`	`Aileen_`	`ahh... I am not up on the universal stuff, both my macs are ppc :\ I was going to say, I just double click on Eclipse.app and it runs :)`
`19:15.03`	`kagaro`	`the PPC build doesn't work in rosetta`
`19:15.24`	`kagaro`	`at work im using a intel mac, at home a ppc mac`
`19:15.30`	vid`	`the 360 wireless adapters are supposed to come out soon too finally, so i can use the wireless 360 gamepads on pc :)`
`19:15.36`	vid`	`cant wait for those`
`19:15.48`	vid`	`might have been today actually`
`19:15.52`	`kagaro`	`anyone know when kergoth usually logs on ?`
`19:16.17`	`CIA-17`	`03nimbal 07Nimbal * r22224 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Buffalo (branch): Almost there... but the icons are still hiding for some reason. Note to self: Think about frequent table creation.`
`19:16.26`	`ckknight`	`I think the intel move was good, all in all`
`19:16.30`	`kagaro`	`it was`
`19:16.39`	vid`	`bah they delayed it :P Ships 02/06/07`
`19:16.44`	`kagaro`	`wish the macmini had a better graphics card though`
`19:16.46`	`Amadeo`	`I want to know how people got started on a Mac instead of a PC to begin with...I've had zero experience on a Mac because you just can't find them anywhere here - last one I've seen was an Apple IIe :P`
`19:17.03`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: where are you?`
`19:17.07`	vid`	`microsoft delaying launch of something, surprise heh`
`19:17.16`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Maryland...I mean, you can find em I'm sure, but it's not like they're all over`
`19:17.17`	`ckknight`	vid`: Vista?
`19:17.29`	vid`	`no`
`19:17.31`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: hrm, they're pretty prevalent in academia`
`19:17.33`	vid`	`the wireless gaming receiver`
`19:17.40`	`ckknight`	vid`: ah, okay
`19:17.42`	`Mikma`	`Who playes a hunter here?`
`19:18.02`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: All the computer labs I've ever used were PCs`
`19:18.02`	vid`	`lets you use wireless xbox360 accessories on PC`
`19:18.02`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: shrug`
`19:18.02`	`ckknight`	`I dunno`
`19:18.02`	vid`	`like the controllers`
`19:18.02`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: I play my girlfriend, who plays a Hunter`
`19:18.03`	vid`	`the 360 wireless controllers rock`
`19:18.03`	`kagaro`	`weird I have 2 Apple stores within 15 minutes of me`
`19:18.11`	`ckknight`	`in Illinois, we had a two mac labs and three computer labs`
`19:18.20`	`kebinusan`	`you see the video of someone using a wiimote to play wow`
`19:18.22`	`Mikma`	`Amadeo: well, i need a really good leveling -talent-tree for hunter :P`
`19:18.23`	`ckknight`	`here at HPU, it seems to be PC labs`
`19:18.29`	`Aileen_`	`Well, the college I went to was an entirely Mac school and freshman were required to buy computers, so my first computer was a Mac (this was in 1994, I got a Performa 636... with a CD! woo, that was rare! most people got Quadra's with no CD)`
`19:18.32`	`ckknight`	`but the teachers use macs themselves and such :-P`
`19:18.39`	`Amadeo`	`Mikma: Hunters are unstoppable now, so you could probably do it without talents! :D`
`19:18.47`	`Amadeo`	`Aileen_: Interesting`
`19:18.55`	`ckknight`	`Aileen_: that's pretty interesting`
`19:19.00`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, that's true...I do recall seeing teachers using Macs`
`19:19.02`	`kebinusan`	`hunters are so stupid now`
`19:19.47`	`Amadeo`	`My first computer was a Packard Bell 486SX 20MHz...and that's because we couldn't afford anything sooner :P`
`19:20.16`	`Amadeo`	`My friend had some 286`
`19:20.30`	`lhunath`	`ever saw an 8086?`
`19:20.40`	`Amadeo`	`I don't think so, but my memory sucks :)`
`19:20.42`	`Aileen_`	`This was at Dartmouth College... I don't know if they're still predominantly Mac, PCs got so cheap since then, although I know they were still Mac heavy at least until the late 90's. You weren't required to get a Mac, just a computer... but the campus computer store really pushed the Macs, all the public labs were Macs, etc`
`19:20.56`	`kebinusan`	`286 was my first pc, before that I had a trs80`
`19:21.08`	`Amadeo`	`Aileen_: Yeah...the thing that kept me away from Macs was the cost...they were so expensive for a long time...now they're finally in line with everyone else`
`19:21.24`	`Amadeo`	`at least for prefabs`
`19:21.27`	`kebinusan`	`I remember paying 300 bucks for my hot external 2400 baud hayes modem`
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`19:21.38`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: I bought my new one because it was cheaper than the other OEMs.`
`19:21.39`	`Ominous`	`what causes ParserLib.lua:1155: attempt to call field 'func' (a nil value)?`
`19:21.40`	`ckknight`	`shrug`
`19:21.50`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Yeah, they're competitive now`
`19:22.06`	`Amadeo`	`The Intel move was great`
`19:22.24`	`Amadeo`	`Plus everyone knew PPC was slower :P gets ready for multiple attacks`
`19:22.29`	`kebinusan`	`I regret selling my old powerbook`
`19:22.36`	ag`	`ckknight: actually the biggest issue is dewdrop:Close()`
`19:22.40`	`kebinusan`	`I loved that thing`
`19:22.48`	ag`	`it can't work around that`
`19:23.09`	`ckknight`	ag`: yea, I know :-P
`19:23.26`	`Amadeo`	`what's the deal with Photoshop on Macs now?`
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`19:23.49`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: ah, they're pretty on-par, actually. Intel's roadmap suited Macs for laptops more than IBM's roadmap for PPC/Cell/etc`
`19:24.03`	`Aileen_`	`I switched from my Performa to a PC in 96... I still do the bulk of my work/gaming on a PC, but 3 years ago I went back to Apple for my laptop (G4 AlBook), and earlier this yera picked up a G4 Mini to use as my web/database server (got it cheap from a friend right after Intel Minis came out... specifically wanted the PPC one because Oracle didn't (still doesn't?) run on Intel)`
`19:24.07`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: it's supported on PPC currently and can be run through Rosetta, afaik`
`19:24.25`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, I think it's emulated on the Intel hardware though...is it ever going to be native?`
`19:24.31`	ag`	`CS3 beta with native intel binary on Mac`
`19:24.32`	`CrisCr0sss`	`ne1 use a g15 keybaord`
`19:24.39`	ag`	`you can already get CS3 beta`
`19:24.41`	`Amadeo`	ag`: I see
`19:24.42`	ag`	`so`
`19:24.49`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: eventually.`
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`19:25.46`	`Amadeo`	`all they need now is more powerful video card options for gamers`
`19:26.16`	`Aileen_`	`I bet we'll see new Minis at Macworld, but dunno if they'll update the graphics... hopefully :)`
`19:26.35`	`Aileen_`	`I use a g15 keyboard, CrisCr0sss`
`19:26.37`	`Amadeo`	`I think I might make my dad buy a Mini`
`19:27.23`	`Amadeo`	`Aileen_: Do they normally just announce a future product at MW, or is it a release as well?`
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`19:29.23`	`Aileen_`	`Whatever they announce is usually available to order right away but maybe not ship for a little while`
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`19:29.37`	`Amadeo`	`I see`
`19:29.46`	`Aileen_`	`Last year the Intel iMacs were available immediately, but the Macbook Pros did not ship until Feb or March`
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`19:30.17`	`Amadeo`	`What's the video chip in the Macbook Pro anyway?`
`19:30.50`	`Aileen_`	`some sort of ATI Mobility, I think`
`19:31.03`	`Amadeo`	`oh I see it, they don't list it on specs page`
`19:31.40`	`Nakas`	`Greetings everybody, I'm hoping to get some help with using aceDB in an addon I'm writing`
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`19:32.50`	`Nakas`	`It pretty beginner stuff, anyone here familiar with it?`
`19:33.41`	`kagaro`	`ckknight: i have a question for you`
`19:33.46`	`snurre-`	`i have a feeling someone might be, Nakas :p`
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`19:33.50`	`ckknight`	`k...`
`19:33.56`	`Aileen_`	`Just ask away, I'm sure someone will be able to help :)`
`19:35.14`	`ckknight`	`kagaro: typically, it's better to ask than to ask to ask`
`19:35.41`	`kagaro`	`when somone sends a note to someone else, say a minig note for instance. and the receiving person doesnt have the minig module installed it gets created as a POI with a ?? icon. Later on they install the mining module. but the old note isnt in the new mining database, but the original poi database. do you have a good way to move it from the old poi database to the new one?`
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`19:36.05`	`Nakas`	`Ok cool. Basically, I'm always getting the values that I set in RegiserDefaults. Now if I modify self.db.char.whatever, it should persist through a console reload, right?`
`19:36.15`	`ckknight`	`no, kagaro :-P`
`19:36.20`	`ckknight`	`not yet...`
`19:36.34`	`ckknight`	`granted, I could add the ability`
`19:36.42`	`Ominous`	`what causes http://ace.pastey.net/4010?`
`19:37.34`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, could ignore notes being shared when you don't have the right module loaded...hm.`
`19:37.34`	`ckknight`	`kagaro: k, on the to do list`
`19:37.37`	`kagaro`	`maybe just a change to the upgradeDatabase function to move them around if creator = externalsdb?`
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`19:37.57`	`ckknight`	`Codayus: no, I want the ability to show notes of modules you don't have`
`19:38.04`	`ckknight`	`can be handy sometimes`
`19:38.08`	`Codayus`	`True.`
`19:38.11`	`ckknight`	`I know how to fix it`
`19:38.47`	`kagaro`	`ck: I was just gona add an option to notes to toggle display on and off for unknown notes is that a problem?`
`19:38.52`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r22225 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast-enUS.lua Click2CastMenu.lua):`
`19:38.53`	`CIA-17`	`Click2Cast:`
`19:38.53`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.02`	`ckknight`	`kagaro: nah, don't do that`
`19:39.32`	`ckknight`	`neat, someone sent me $1.55`
`19:39.35`	`ckknight`	`what a weird amount.`
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`19:39.50`	`kagaro`	`ok, but I am gona add a "disable notifications" option from comm receives.. people are complaining about spam from share notifications`
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`19:40.47`	`ckknight`	`kagaro: oh, sure.`
`19:40.58`	ag`	`how do I check if an addon is enabled`
`19:41.13`	`ckknight`	ag`: GetAddOnInfo("name" or id)
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`19:41.52`	`Ominous`	`does no-one know what causes http://ace.pastey.net/4010?`
`19:41.52`	`ckknight`	`a-stray-cat: connection issues?`
`19:43.06`	`Xogxog`	`ckknight, I think he just wants attention..`
`19:43.17`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`19:43.32`	`ckknight`	`at least now there won't be more.`
`19:43.33`	`Nakas`	`So, if I modify an ace database value with something like self.db.char.whatever = 3, can I see that in some SavedVariables file somewhere?`
`19:43.35`	`Elkano`	`ck, I hate you :( I never got any donation :(`
`19:43.51`	`ckknight`	`Elkano: shrug I write high-profile addons`
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`19:43.56`	`ckknight`	`yes, Nakas`
`19:44.25`	`Elkano`	`Nakas, most likely SavedVariables\addon.lua or, if you specified a per char database server\char\addon.lua`
`19:44.41`	`Elkano`	`(or was it server\char\SavedVariables\addon.lua ?)`
`19:44.41`	`Antiarc`	`I have a $250 gift certificate to Best Buy and the three Best Buys near me a) are out of Wiis, and b) don't know or won't say when their next shipment comes in.`
`19:45.42`	`Amadeo`	`Yet another reason everyone should hate Best Buy`
`19:45.45`	`Amadeo`	`Worst store ever`
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`19:46.12`	`Antiarc`	`I'd shop elsewhere, but I don't have gift certificates for elsewhere. :D`
`19:46.23`	`Amadeo`	`yeah :(`
`19:46.45`	`Amadeo`	`can you buy something for like 50 cents and get cash for the rest? :P`
`19:47.05`	`Ominous`	`Rophy2: You here?`
`19:47.17`	`kenlyric`	`heh, that's why the do gift cards now... they never give change from them.`
`19:47.22`	`Nakas`	`Ok, it's not even making the SavedVariables file for my per character settings`
`19:47.29`	`Amadeo`	`kenlyric: I think a long time ago they used to :(`
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`19:49.52`	`Antiarc`	`"And according to CNET, the Wii won�t be seeing any lingering shelf life or accessible in-store pick-ups (without lines or pre-orders) until March, 2007"`
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`19:50.58`	`Codayus`	`I'm not sure I'd call Best Buy the worst store ever. My local Best Buy is next to a CompUSA which is, if anything, worse.`
`19:51.12`	`Amadeo`	`wow, sweet`
`19:51.17`	`Amadeo`	`Blindwrite for free - http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/`
`19:51.17`	`Codayus`	`But they certainly should make anyones top 5 list of awful stores. :-/`
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`19:52.32`	ag`	`ckknight: ok, how do I know if an Ace addon is enabled or not`
`19:52.42`	ag`	`I think that's what I need to know`
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`19:53.05`	`Aileen_`	`boo, a Wii was supposed to be my xmas present from my bf but he couldn't find any`
`19:53.18`	`Aileen_`	`I don't want to wait in line!`
`19:53.26`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r22226 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua:`
`19:53.26`	`CIA-17`	`.AceDB-2.0 - added .server database type, which is distinct from realm.`
`19:53.27`	`CIA-17`	`Realm is faction-based, meaning that "Thrall - Horde" and "Thrall - Alliance" are seen as two distinct realms`
`19:53.27`	`CIA-17`	`Server is not faction-based, meaning that "Thrall" is the server no matter what faction you are on.`
`19:53.27`	ag`	`it wasn't that hard here in denmark`
`19:53.33`	`ckknight`	ag`: Addon:IsActive()
`19:53.38`	ag`	`thanks`
`19:53.45`	`Antiarc`	`Ooh, nice addition, ckknight`
`19:54.00`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc: Kaelten requested it`
`19:54.07`	`Antiarc`	`That'll be useful for me, too :)`
`19:54.10`	`ckknight`	`KaeltenAway: ping, added .server to AceDB-2.0`
`19:54.15`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc: what'll you use it for?`
`19:54.24`	`kenlyric`	`wait, that's a new edition?`
`19:54.30`	`kenlyric`	`how did it seperate out horde/alliance before?`
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`19:54.54`	`Antiarc`	`Sanity. Some people have wanted a cross-faction view of their characters' items. I'll probably switch to .server and then do manual filtering unless a switch is turned off.`
`19:55.21`	`kenlyric`	`Antiarc, that will be nice.`
`19:55.56`	`kenlyric`	`As long as there's a somewhat easy way to filter people by faction.`
`19:56.05`	`Antiarc`	`Yup. Just a toggle on and off.`
`19:56.07`	`Antiarc`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-Wii-Box_W0QQitemZ180066398456QQihZ008QQcategoryZ187QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`19:56.12`	`Antiarc`	`I feel so sorry for whoever bought that.`
`19:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r22227 10Click2Cast/Click2CastMenu.lua:`
`19:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`Click2Cast:`
`19:56.17`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:56.34`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r22228 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_DropdownMenu.lua:`
`19:56.34`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`19:56.34`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:56.38`	`Amadeo`	`Antiarc: hahaha`
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`19:56.45`	`kenlyric`	`LOL`
`19:57.26`	`ckknight`	`Antiarc: okay then, makes sense`
`19:57.43`	`Hjalte`	ag`: When are you going to let us ag_uf users bind anything to ctrl and alt rightclick? ;)
`19:58.16`	ag`	`uhm`
`19:58.19`	ag`	`I just did it now`
`19:58.35`	ag`	`alt+right works for me`
`19:58.45`	`Mikma`	`Antiarc: how come you feel sorry for whoever bought that wii?`
`19:58.47`	`Hjalte`	`So it wont pop up the ag_uf menu anymore?`
`19:58.54`	`Antiarc`	`Mikma: It's an empty box.`
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`19:59.01`	`Antiarc`	`As per the item description.`
`19:59.09`	ag`	`Hjalte: I don't know, it works for me`
`19:59.22`	`Mikma`	`haha`
`19:59.39`	`Mikma`	`Antiarc: owned.`
`19:59.42`	`Antiarc`	`Indeed.`
`20:00.13`	`CIA-17`	`03ag * r22229 10Click2Cast/Click2CastMenu.lua:`
`20:00.13`	`CIA-17`	`Click2Cast:`
`20:00.14`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`20:07.19`	`Nakas`	`Should the RegiserDB call be enough for a SavedVariables file to be created?`
`20:08.19`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`20:08.28`	`nevcairiel`	`you need the Variable name in your .toc`
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`20:09.01`	`Nakas`	`Aye, I have that, and the AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new(... call`
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`20:10.20`	`Nakas`	`MyAddon = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceDB-2.0") to be precise`
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`20:11.01`	`Antiarc`	`MyAddon:RegisterDB("MyTOCSavedVarsVar", "MyPerCharacterTOCSavedVarsVar")`
`20:11.03`	`phreaky`	`Any1 using a-stray-cat's cooldowntimers2 ? And can tell me how to increase the font size like on the screenshots on wowi ? =) He seems to got a bit of a problem with his internet :)`
`20:11.40`	`Nakas`	`Aye, I've got that RegisterDB line also`
`20:11.58`	`Nakas`	`With names matching those in the .toc`
`20:12.11`	ag`	`ckknight: I worked around it by checking the name of the parent frame for the dewdrop menu`
`20:12.20`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`20:12.26`	`ckknight`	`I'll get a proper fix later today`
`20:12.27`	`Antiarc`	`It should work then, Nakas`
`20:12.31`	`ckknight`	`I'm kinda at work now`
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`20:14.42`	`Nakas`	`And I should see the file created in WTF\Account\MyCharName\MyRealm\MyCharName\SavedVariables\MyAddon.lua?`
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`20:17.55`	`Nakas`	`Now, the RegisterDB() and RegisterDefaults() should be done outside of any function, at the top of the addon, right?`
`20:18.32`	`ckknight`	`right, Nakas`
`20:18.42`	`ckknight`	`Nakas: pastey your toc`
`20:18.55`	`ckknight`	`Nakas: also, did you fully exit wow after editting the toc?`
`20:19.03`	`Nakas`	`!!`
`20:19.10`	`Nakas`	`Dang! I didn't!`
`20:19.21`	`Nakas`	`That's gotta be it`
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`20:20.30`	`ckknight`	`yep.`
`20:20.45`	`ckknight`	`toc editing and addition of files requires a WoW restart`
`20:20.56`	`Hjalte`	ag`: Woohooo, I love you!
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`20:22.18`	`Nakas`	`Thanks guys, it's working now`
`20:23.59`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`20:25.28`	`Boobies4u`	`dogchow!`
`20:26.33`	`ckknight`	`I don't think anyone's coming in today...`
`20:26.33`	`ckknight`	`I'm the only one in the office`
`20:26.33`	vid`	`i took day off from work`
`20:26.33`	vid`	`:P`
`20:26.33`	`ckknight`	`I wasn't aware this was a holiday`
`20:26.33`	vid`	`cause none of our employees wanted to work`
`20:26.33`	vid`	`so i said fuck it`
`20:26.33`	`ckknight`	vid`: what do you do?
`20:26.33`	vid`	`its not but its a christmas recovery`
`20:26.33`	vid`	`:P`
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`20:26.40`	vid`	`i run a vinyl window sales and installation company`
`20:26.45`	`ckknight`	`ah, okay`
`20:26.51`	Funkeh`	`heya`
`20:26.54`	vid`	`far cry from the IT work i used to do`
`20:27.03`	`ckknight`	`I don't have the key to the bathroom :-(`
`20:27.17`	vid`	`i may go take the superchips custom tuning classes`
`20:27.20`	vid`	`and go work on cars`
`20:27.23`	vid`	`if this window thing doesnt work out`
`20:27.27`	vid`	`i always loved tweaking cars`
`20:27.37`	vid`	`my too favorite hobbies together :P`
`20:27.43`	vid`	`computers and cars`
`20:27.52`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`20:27.56`	`ckknight`	`sounds cool`
`20:28.06`	vid`	`it is till you blow up someones car`
`20:28.10`	vid`	`:P`
`20:28.15`	`Mikma`	`boon`
`20:28.56`	vid`	`http://www.sctflash.com/images/pr_ss_1_LRG.gif`
`20:29.33`	`mjc`	`BLAH`
`20:30.18`	`mjc`	vid`: whomever designed that photo is colorblind
`20:30.25`	`mjc`	vid`: "red" == "orange'
`20:30.33`	`ckknight`	`yea.`
`20:30.38`	vid`	`haha`
`20:30.50`	vid`	`it probably goes from orange->red`
`20:30.50`	`ckknight`	`mjc: I bet it was red once, and then they changed the color but not the text.`
`20:30.50`	`mjc`	`seriously.`
`20:30.50`	vid`	`but yea`
`20:30.53`	vid`	`orange = warning`
`20:30.58`	vid`	`red = danger`
`20:31.02`	vid`	`prob`
`20:31.10`	`mjc`	`or they're just retarded`
`20:31.12`	vid`	`or that`
`20:31.13`	vid`	`:D`
`20:31.24`	vid`	`but hey thats the PR people`
`20:31.26`	vid`	`:P`
`20:31.31`	vid`	`god i love emoticons`
`20:31.37`	vid`	`why oh why`
`20:31.38`	`mjc`	`pretty nice compression ratio`
`20:32.16`	`Dekuna`	`does agUF have an option to hide its fubar plugin?`
`20:32.18`	`ckknight`	`mjc: the emoticons?`
`20:32.35`	`nevcairiel`	`Dekuna: agUF doesnt event have a fubar plugin`
`20:32.46`	`Dekuna`	`O.o yes it does.... i'm using it now`
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`20:32.53`	`Kemayo`	`...the default Blizzard UI taints "color" when you add something to the quest tracker.`
`20:32.55`	`mjc`	`fubar_aguffu`
`20:32.55`	`Dekuna`	`Evil Elvis wrote it`
`20:33.00`	`ggilbert`	`It doesn't ship in the aguf tree, but it exists :)`
`20:33.01`	`nevcairiel`	`you instaleld the standalone FuBar_agUFFu ?`
`20:33.02`	`mjc`	`Kemayo: woot`
`20:33.30`	`Dekuna`	`oh, i'm not paying attention, i thought it was built in`
`20:34.56`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r22230 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: stop changing the encoding!! use UTF-8 with signature`
`20:35.16`	`ckknight`	`gah, this svn co is taking forever.`
`20:35.20`	`Kemayo`	`Hmm. GetDifficultyColor has the side-effect of setting the global 'color' to whatever the difficulty color returned is. :D`
`20:35.32`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: hrm.`
`20:35.35`	Funkeh`	`svn co?`
`20:35.45`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: I'd make a forum post about it.`
`20:35.50`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: svn checkout
`20:35.57`	Funkeh`	`oh :p`
`20:36.01`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: checking out my work's SVN
`20:36.06`	`ckknight`	`apparently, it's over a gig.`
`20:36.12`	Funkeh`	`fuck :p`
`20:36.32`	`nevcairiel`	Funkeh`: your encoding changes killed all chinese translations, so i changed it to real utf-8, whats wrong with it?
`20:36.50`	`ckknight`	`and it's way too cold in here`
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`20:36.57`	`ckknight`	`and I don't know how to change the AC`
`20:37.02`	`ckknight`	`or if it's even possible to`
`20:37.07`	`nevcairiel`	`or did someone change it back to ansi with utf-8 inside again ? :O`
`20:37.13`	Funkeh`	`nevcairiel: it should be UTF-8 with signature`
`20:37.24`	Funkeh`	`or chinese symbol appear wonky`
`20:37.35`	`nevcairiel`	`i think thats what i changed it to`
`20:37.40`	`nevcairiel`	`but did someone change it again?`
`20:37.40`	Funkeh`	`its been changed back`
`20:37.47`	Funkeh`	`aye`
`20:37.59`	`nevcairiel`	`oh my`
`20:38.05`	`ckknight`	`maybe a third, evil party changed it`
`20:38.08`	`nevcairiel`	`they will keep killing their own translations`
`20:38.22`	Funkeh`	`no, 'sayclub' doesn't seem to know what a good editor is`
`20:38.31`	Funkeh`	`and i cannot believe someone changed it to ansi the other day`
`20:38.32`	`mjc`	`~seen sayclub`
`20:39.05`	`purl`	`mjc: i haven't seen 'sayclub'`
`20:39.05`	Funkeh`	`thats just lol`
`20:39.05`	`mjc`	`lawl0r`
`20:39.05`	Funkeh`	`idd`
`20:39.06`	`nevcairiel`	`it was marked as Ansi with UTF-8 Encoded chars by my editor`
`20:39.16`	Funkeh`	`also ive been working on babble boss not spell :p`
`20:39.36`	Funkeh`	`but some poor guy who translates zhTW apparently had to re do the whole thing cause of it`
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`20:39.52`	`nevcairiel`	`everything except koKR was lost in Babble-Spell`
`20:39.56`	`ckknight`	`revert to when it was right and figure out who was at fault`
`20:40.08`	Funkeh`	`i plan on doing that from now on me thinks`
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`20:40.39`	`nevcairiel`	`lets check trac when it actually was right.`
`20:40.53`	Funkeh`	`i usually check what people are commiting on my laptop at google etc, i get very upset when it all starts changing to '??'`
`20:41.23`	Funkeh`	`but as far as i can see its this 'sayclub' person`
`20:41.59`	`mjc`	`be thankful it's not &amp;amp;amp;`
`20:42.16`	`Kemayo`	`Is there an explaination somewhere of what exactly can cause taint?`
`20:42.24`	Funkeh`	`hehe`
`20:44.29`	`nevcairiel`	`it was correct back in 20751`
`20:44.32`	`nevcairiel`	`lets see where it went wrong`
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`20:45.30`	`nife`	`The latest version of bartender doesn't have the keybindings showing up.`
`20:46.05`	`nevcairiel`	`You dont have your bindings right.`
`20:46.14`	`nevcairiel`	Funkeh`: you are right, sayclub did it
`20:46.27`	`nevcairiel`	`his revision 22089 broke everything`
`20:46.47`	Funkeh`	`nevcairiel: so, let the damage be done, and fixed, or start reverting any future breakage?`
`20:46.51`	`kenlyric`	`nife: I'd say that just about every other revision of bartender removes display of the keybindings :)`
`20:47.03`	`kenlyric`	`I always just assume it will come back.`
`20:47.40`	`nife`	`kenlyric: Yea. Still like to come give a bug report just incase the author is on and will fix it. Hehe`
`20:47.42`	Funkeh`	`theres a lot of commits since that, i think maybe we should let it recover and keep an eye on it from now on`
`20:47.45`	`nife`	`raiding never stops`
`20:47.46`	`nevcairiel`	Funkeh`: i'll check the working revision out and insert the asian parts from that into the current, and revert future breakage
`20:48.18`	`kenlyric`	`for like a whole week they didn't even accept the default keybinding and made you rebind, even bar 1. But somebody came to their senses, I assume.`
`20:48.56`	`kagaro`	`bwt ckknight get yourself Textmate for the mac .. it rocks`
`20:49.08`	`ckknight`	`using Smultron`
`20:49.32`	`kagaro`	`does it have lua sytax highlighting?`
`20:49.33`	`ckknight`	`TextMate is shareware and annoying`
`20:49.36`	`ckknight`	`yes, kagaro`
`20:49.40`	`kagaro`	`Textmate is commerical ware`
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`20:50.07`	`ckknight`	`Smultron seems to be working for me`
`20:50.17`	`ckknight`	`I don't see how TextMate is better...`
`20:50.24`	`nife`	`Ahhhhh they completly re-did the mindings so they are in the interface keybindings. Even though the old ones still work I have to re-do them... Ok`
`20:50.33`	`kagaro`	`smultron have svn builtin?`
`20:50.48`	`kagaro`	`am jsut curious`
`20:50.50`	`kagaro`	`*just`
`20:51.04`	`ckknight`	`no`
`20:51.11`	`ckknight`	`it doesn't`
`20:51.45`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`20:52.28`	`yacoob`	`hm`
`20:52.40`	`kagaro`	`ctrl + shift + a in textmate opens up svn commands`
`20:52.42`	`yacoob`	`how can I move MT frames of ora? they seem to be stuck on the center of screen`
`20:52.52`	`kagaro`	`that is the biggest reason i use it`
`20:52.56`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`20:53.02`	`ckknight`	`I'll try it out`
`20:53.27`	`nevcairiel`	Funkeh`: meh, screw reverting, i cant make it work. lets hope they recover and revert future breakage.
`20:53.42`	Funkeh`	`hehe`
`20:53.59`	Funkeh`	`thats what i was thinking, but then you volunteered, so i thought gl :P`
`20:54.19`	Funkeh`	`alt+drag moves the mt frames`
`20:55.04`	`nevcairiel`	`i should prolly take the time and comment all broken lines`
`20:55.08`	`nevcairiel`	`( so all lines )`
`20:55.44`	`yacoob`	Funkeh`, thanks. Wonder why it didn't move earlier...
`20:56.06`	Funkeh`	`:>`
`20:56.52`	`nevcairiel`	`but then, why do i care about asian translations`
`20:57.12`	`kagaro`	`http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/washu214/Picture1.png`
`20:57.45`	Funkeh`	`nevcairiel: i thinik i hold the record in this channel for saying i hate locales`
`20:58.02`	Funkeh`	`global language i say`
`20:58.07`	`yacoob`	`what a lovely cluttered desktop :)`
`20:58.31`	Funkeh`	`omg a MAC aaaaaaaa`
`20:58.42`	`yacoob`	Funkeh`, breathe!
`20:58.48`	`Tain`	`Sorry I don't speak Mac`
`20:58.54`	`kenlyric`	`one of those screens looks like LCARS`
`21:00.00`	`ckknight`	`kagaro: does look pimp`
`21:00.47`	Funkeh`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2951.msg69668#msg69668 lol`
`21:00.52`	`kagaro`	`I use it when ever i do any coding except java (I stick to eclipse for that)`
`21:01.57`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r22231 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Make some of the logic for leaderboard sharing a bit smoother.`
`21:04.01`	`ckknight`	`kagaro: interesting`
`21:04.10`	`ckknight`	`kagaro: did you pay for it and all?`
`21:04.13`	`kagaro`	`yeah`
`21:04.54`	`kagaro`	`39 euros`
`21:05.20`	`ckknight`	`lousy foreigners`
`21:05.28`	`kagaro`	`rofl`
`21:06.08`	`kagaro`	`making macros is trivial, when doing rails migration they make it go soo mcuh faster`
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`21:11.04`	`CIA-17`	`03nimbal 07Nimbal * r22232 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Buffalo: Fixed importing of frame position. Now let's see if we can make this usable`
`21:11.12`	`jkw`	~seen ag`
`21:11.30`	`purl`	ag` <n=ag`@0x57317a46.bynxx19.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 59m 19s ago, saying: 'ckknight: I worked around it by checking the name of the parent frame for the dewdrop menu'.
`21:12.40`	`yacoob`	`Now this is disturbing: http://www.mameworld.net/pacman/`
`21:13.05`	`deltron`	`yacoob: it's true really`
`21:13.16`	`deltron`	`one of the ghosts stop following after you go right and such`
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`21:13.34`	`yacoob`	`deltron, it's disturbing that you're able to verify that 8)`
`21:14.24`	`deltron`	`yacoob: i'm a classic gaming nerd :)`
`21:14.46`	`yacoob`	`deltron, 8)`
`21:15.03`	`yacoob`	`(still, how many braincells wasted, I can harness that power... :)`
`21:15.26`	`deltron`	`it's never a waste`
`21:15.48`	`yacoob`	`let's say we can get better return rate :)`
`21:16.43`	`deltron`	`we could step up to ms pac-man`
`21:16.45`	`deltron`	`lol`
`21:21.19`	`yacoob`	`shrimps?`
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`21:26.09`	`jkw`	`nes > wii`
`21:26.14`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol`
`21:26.27`	`jkw`	`:]`
`21:26.43`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Game & Watch > wii`
`21:26.59`	`jkw`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9136575504838642038&q=wii`
`21:27.02`	`jkw`	`<3`
`21:27.07`	`jkw`	`^^`
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`21:33.02`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hehe`
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`21:41.17`	`kergoth`	`who here works on fence?`
`21:41.27`	`kergoth`	`its sort by buyout is completely non-functional`
`21:43.43`	`Nickenyfiken`	`it's working for me`
`21:43.58`	`Nickenyfiken`	`atleast it worked before`
`21:44.11`	`kergoth`	`hmm, odd`
`21:44.32`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Neriak is the author`
`21:45.07`	`Neriak`	`kergoth: it doesn't work in TBC, but it works in vanilla`
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`21:45.21`	`Neriak`	`phyber wrote this module of Fence`
`21:45.33`	`kergoth`	`ahh`
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`21:46.01`	`kergoth`	`fence is nice though, good job. the bid display and single price display is nice`
`21:46.15`	`Neriak`	`I don't know what Blizzard changed in TBC but buyout sort is broken there .. tried to peek at auctionhouse.lua and xml but didn't find anything wrong`
`21:46.22`	`Nickenyfiken`	`and its also in KCI branch :-)`
`21:46.24`	`Neriak`	`thanks, yeah it's sexy :)`
`21:46.27`	`Nickenyfiken`	`awsome work`
`21:46.28`	`Neriak`	`hehe`
`21:46.39`	`kergoth`	`though i think the means of showing the bid used by some other addons (greying out the bid price on the right if it has no bid) is in some ways nicer visually`
`21:47.08`	`phyber`	`Neriak: :o`
`21:47.38`	`phyber`	`kergoth: sort by buyout works fine. you got some other mod screwing with the AH at the same time?`
`21:47.41`	`Neriak`	`kergoth: didn't know about other addons doing it like this .. i'm all open for feedback np`
`21:47.58`	`Neriak`	`phyber: no he's right .. it's definitely broken in TBC`
`21:48.03`	`phyber`	`oh, in TBC.`
`21:48.11`	`Neriak`	`phyber: but all other sort filters are working well`
`21:48.25`	`Gngsk`	`I was trying out fence yesterday and checking out the alt click behaviour, put up a 100 stack of encrypted twilight text for 1s buyout D:`
`21:48.32`	`phyber`	`maybe blizzard removed the buyout sort in TBC? I hope not, because it would suck.`
`21:48.47`	`Neriak`	`however the arrow in name sort button isn't changing in vanilla version, but that's only happen to me I guess`
`21:49.09`	`Neriak`	`phyber: I already looked through their code, everything is looking normal`
`21:50.08`	`phyber`	`well, it calls some blizz code to do the sort. the module doesn't sort the stuff itself. just accesses a function blizzard didn't give us in the plain ui.`
`21:51.29`	`Neriak`	`phyber: does it help when I send you the blizzard files of the TBC client (auctionhouse.xml and.lua) ?`
`21:51.37`	`phyber`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:51.43`	`phyber`	`this is the function that does the sort.`
`21:51.52`	`phyber`	`maybe blizz got rid of, or renamed the "buyout" option`
`21:52.21`	`Neriak`	`no it's still there .. I've queried it and got 'true' .. hrm`
`21:52.29`	`Neriak`	`have to go afk for 2 hours, laters`
`21:52.43`	`Neriak`	`phyber: send me your email when you like to have the blizzard sourcecode`
`21:52.44`	`phyber`	`well, the function might exist, but does the buyout argument?`
`21:52.57`	`Neriak`	`in query I meant`
`21:52.57`	`phyber`	`I can extract the code from my beta client later :)`
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`21:53.02`	`Neriak`	`oh ok, fine`
`21:53.06`	`Neriak`	`laterz mates`
`21:53.11`	`phyber`	`ok, later.`
`21:53.14`	`phyber`	`:)`
`21:54.06`	`phyber`	`kergoth: you could test this. go to the AH in TBC, and do /script SortAuctionItems("list", "buyout")`
`21:54.10`	`phyber`	`see if it works.`
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`21:54.55`	`Nickenyfiken`	`damn i want a TBC account :-/`
`21:55.19`	`jkw`	`It's not long until it's released.`
`21:55.28`	`jkw`	`Don't know if I'll get it the first month though.`
`21:55.39`	`kergoth`	`yea, does nothing at all phyber, like "buyout" is no longer valid :\|`
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`21:56.00`	`phyber`	`that sucks.`
`21:56.03`	`phyber`	`grrrr.`
`21:56.12`	`phyber`	`kergoth: can you post in US and ask for it back? :(`
`21:56.33`	`phyber`	`they probably just removed it because they don't use it.`
`21:58.58`	`Fisker-`	`couldn't you do it in a mod still?`
`22:00.36`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r22233 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:`
`22:00.36`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2:`
`22:00.36`	`CIA-17`	`- koKR fixes from RidRayburn on the forums`
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`22:06.22`	`phyber`	`infact, I'll post that in EU beta forum, see what happens.`
`22:06.34`	`nevcairiel`	`most likely nothing`
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`22:07.12`	`Saroz`	`signed`
`22:07.25`	`phyber`	`true :/`
`22:09.11`	`phyber`	`I'll /bug it in beta.`
`22:09.22`	`Xogxog`	`I'll tell my dad.`
`22:09.36`	`kenlyric`	`i'm confused. buyout is still an option.`
`22:09.59`	`kenlyric`	`meh, maybe I missed something critical in the scrollback. time for home`
`22:10.11`	`Xogxog`	`kenlyric, yeah, but can you sort the results after buyout. ;P`
`22:12.42`	`Q6`	`What was the aguf enemy casting bar mod called?`
`22:13.25`	`Hjalte`	`Q6: menemycastbar`
`22:13.33`	`Xogxog`	`Q6, mEnemyCastbar (Miles' Enemy Castbar): http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5488-mEnemyCastbar.html`
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`22:14.12`	`jkw`	`err`
`22:14.27`	`Q6`	`Thank you`
`22:14.34`	`jkw`	`my ftp server has a life of its own`
`22:14.45`	`jkw`	`._.`
`22:15.12`	`jkw`	`bleh, ut2k4,l`
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`22:17.27`	`Health`	`What did they change 60->61 exp to?`
`22:17.35`	`Health`	`I know it was decreased not too long ago`
`22:18.07`	`nevcairiel`	`its 415500 now`
`22:18.42`	`Health`	`Nice`
`22:18.55`	`nevcairiel`	`what was it before?`
`22:18.56`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`22:21.02`	`nevcairiel`	`i only know that 69-70 is like 1 million`
`22:21.02`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
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`22:21.25`	`Health`	`ouch :p`
`22:21.52`	`CIA-17`	`03nimbal 07Nimbal * r22234 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`22:21.52`	`CIA-17`	`Buffalo:`
`22:21.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Attempt on table recycling`
`22:21.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed tooltip`
`22:21.52`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed application display`
`22:21.52`	`CIA-17`	`- modified dynamic button creation`
`22:21.54`	`CIA-17`	`- added Sandbox layout for fun and debugging`
`22:22.34`	`phyber`	`has the survey button gone from beta?`
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`22:26.28`	`Azurewrath`	`phyber: yes, they removed it with 2.0.3 or something, guess that was the time when the "500 keys contests" on all the sites showed up..`
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`22:33.22`	`phyber`	`reported that SortAuctionItems() buyout thing on EU beta bugs now. it will never be seen. :/`
`22:37.23`	`CIA-17`	`03Tristan * r22235 10RaidAgent/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`22:37.23`	`CIA-17`	`RaidAgent:`
`22:37.23`	`CIA-17`	`- Some updates, parts are beginning to be localized \o/. Also added a AutoLoot option for stuff like Scraps in Naxx, Coins in ZG when you run ML (experimental yet as it is not tested very much)`
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`22:45.01`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.travian.com/`
`22:45.08`	`Nickenyfiken`	`looks funny ^^`
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`22:49.06`	`Neebler`	`can anyone tell me whats wrong with this macro: /equipslot [equipped:Fist Weapons] 16 Perdition's Blade`
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`22:50.12`	`Neebler`	`basically it equips a dagger if I have fist weapons on`
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`22:52.10`	`Nickenyfiken`	`dunno, my Macro skill is like 5/300`
`22:52.31`	`Xogxog`	`Neebler, what's not working?`
`22:52.46`	`Neebler`	`I'm getting this error from that macro: Bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expect, got nil)`
`22:52.47`	`Neebler`	`it works tho`
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`22:58.21`	`Prophy`	`bt3 is broken again..no keybindings anymore`
`22:58.32`	ag`	`then revert`
`22:58.33`	`Prophy`	`that shit always happens after some updates..lol`
`22:58.40`	`nevcairiel`	`its not a bug`
`22:58.46`	`nevcairiel`	`its user stupidity`
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`22:59.03`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol`
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`22:59.04`	`Prophy`	`who the coders?`
`22:59.18`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol`
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`23:00.14`	`Xogxog`	`I was using BT3 'til my stupidity got the best of me..`
`23:01.20`	`nevcairiel`	`if you choose to use updates from SVN, you will have to live with changes in the way addons work`
`23:01.26`	`nevcairiel`	`if you cannot do that, dont use svn updates.`
`23:02.06`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r22236 10Bartender3/Core.lua: Bartender3: fixed kb conversion code ( so thats why it wasnt working )`
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`23:02.54`	`Kemayo`	`I did like the previous menu-thing for keybindings, though.`
`23:03.08`	`Kemayo`	`I'm just not a fan of the main keybindings menu.`
`23:03.09`	`Nickenyfiken`	`me2`
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`23:04.16`	`nevcairiel`	`Generally, people are to stupid to use that menu as well. they dont understand how it works, demand two binding options, so everyone has to live with this way now. complaints can be send to /dev/null, answers will come from /dev/random`
`23:04.59`	`Nickenyfiken`	`haha`
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`23:06.35`	`nevcairiel`	`Ive told people that they cannot expect support from the SVN versions, but they still use it and complain when it deletes all their bindings. so what :)`
`23:06.58`	`Zicon`	`People suck. All hail /dev/random`
`23:07.01`	ag`	`O H N OESI have to set my bindagain nevcairiel ??++`
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`23:08.04`	`nevcairiel`	ag`: if you did update and start your game somewhere between 5 minutes ago and this morning, yes, if you didnt, and update now, it _should_ convert your bindings.
`23:08.14`	`nevcairiel`	`but convertion code was broken :D`
`23:08.30`	ag`	`ok, I just did an update now`
`23:08.38`	ag`	`so it should have converted I guess`
`23:08.41`	ag`	`but it didn't`
`23:08.51`	ag`	`I don't care, I know the consequences`
`23:08.57`	ag`	`ah`
`23:09.01`	ag`	`I did convert my bindings!`
`23:09.07`	ag`	`It's just not on the buttons`
`23:09.16`	`nevcairiel`	`Its not?`
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`23:10.02`	`nevcairiel`	`(the old bindings tored in your bindings-cache.wtf will still call the "click" on the buttons, but wont actually be shown as a binding anywhere in the menu.`
`23:10.11`	`nevcairiel`	`s/tored/stored/`
`23:10.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Btw, SP\|Sorren and a-stray-cat need kicking`
`23:10.29`	`Kirkburn`	`They've in a dc/rc loop`
`23:10.34`	`Kirkburn`	`*they're`
`23:11.08`	Funkeh`	`whats the prat module called that hides join/leave messages`
`23:11.16`	Funkeh`	`can't find it for my life :/`
`23:11.30`	`steev64`	`hmm`
`23:11.33`	`Xogxog`	Funkeh`, Who.
`23:11.34`	ag`	`nevcairiel: ok, I just had to set my bindings again`
`23:11.37`	ag`	`no problem`
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`23:12.10`	Funkeh`	`Xogxog: thanks`
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`23:12.18`	`nevcairiel`	`If youve set them through the Blizzard Binding UI now, you will keep them forever, i am not going to change them again`
`23:12.29`	`nevcairiel`	`which would be the 10th time or so now anyway.`
`23:12.33`	`nevcairiel`	`But i am keeping them now`
`23:12.45`	ag`	`okay`
`23:13.01`	`steev64`	`hey all, i've finally gotten around to do some updating of my addons, and ocd, ocb and odeps aren't listed on the download page - are there replacements?`
`23:13.16`	`nevcairiel`	`there is no oCB ?`
`23:13.21`	Funkeh`	`its moved`
`23:13.21`	`nevcairiel`	`which version do i use ? :D`
`23:13.26`	`nevcairiel`	`oh right`
`23:13.28`	`nevcairiel`	`it moved`
`23:13.31`	Funkeh`	`haste moved them to hes site`
`23:13.42`	Funkeh`	`link is lieing about somewhere`
`23:13.52`	`nevcairiel`	`that reminds me to update my svn checkout`
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`23:15.37`	`nevcairiel`	`there isnt much in his google svn repos tho, or where did he move it to?`
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`23:16.25`	`steev64`	`anyone happen to have that url?`
`23:16.36`	`usz`	Funkeh`, may I paste you more errors in PT via priv?
`23:16.40`	`steev64`	`google pulls up lots of links, but im not seeing any`
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`23:17.00`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`23:17.20`	`nevcairiel`	`http://fuxsake.net/`
`23:18.10`	`steev64`	`thanks!`
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`23:21.29`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm so where is his SVN?`
`23:21.34`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hastes`
`23:22.03`	`Fisker-`	`not ready ter i believe`
`23:22.09`	`Fisker-`	`s/ter/yet`
`23:22.30`	`Eternally777`	`How can I count how many bags the player has equipped?`
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`23:22.36`	`Fisker-`	`s/ter/yet/`
`23:22.41`	`Fisker-`	`;(`
`23:22.44`	`Fisker-`	`QQ`
`23:23.17`	`Health`	`Anyone know where the honor caps at?`
`23:23.26`	`ZOAS\|away`	`90k`
`23:23.37`	`Health`	`Thanks! Smaert away guy!`
`23:23.45`	`Fisker-`	`was told it was 100k`
`23:24.10`	`Health`	`So.. what can you buy in TBC for honor? Checked wowhead a bit.. found blue "grand marshal" sets... anything else?`
`23:24.21`	`nevcairiel`	`wasnt it supposed to be the price of the bestest item? the cap i mean?`
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`23:25.03`	`Tekkub`	`meh?`
`23:25.11`	`Kirkburn`	`He's in a DC/RC loop`
`23:25.34`	`Tekkub`	`kay....`
`23:25.34`	`nevcairiel`	`dont you think he might get back after his next RC, even if you kick him?`
`23:25.40`	`Health`	`Kirkburn: http://85.230.24.178/img/dot.jpg - I got that with default clearfont2 settings, works well at 96% font size tho`
`23:26.02`	`Kirkburn`	`I know, Health, get a monitor with a different resolution :P`
`23:26.08`	`Health`	`:(`
`23:26.14`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`23:26.20`	`Health`	`1680x1050 ftw! Bought it yesterday :p`
`23:26.24`	`Kirkburn`	`Or change the scale, which you intelligently did =)`
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`23:26.45`	`Tekkub`	`so uh... what you want done to a-stray-cat? :P`
`23:26.49`	`Kemayo`	`Kirkburn... with ClearFont2 the first line of every Tablet has outlined text. http://kemayo.dyndns.org:8080/wow/tablet+clearfont.png`
`23:27.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Dunno, clad tried kicking him from #wowi, but he keeps coming back`
`23:27.24`	`Tekkub`	`you gotta ban if you don't want him back`
`23:27.39`	`nevcairiel`	`oooh`
`23:27.47`	`nevcairiel`	`ClearFont is causing that outline?`
`23:27.53`	`nevcairiel`	`i was wondering where it came from`
`23:28.00`	`nevcairiel`	`(ClearFont1 here tho)`
`23:28.17`	`Kirkburn`	`I think I can narrow it down further ... ckknight caused it, I bet`
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`23:28.42`	`nevcairiel`	`I have that as well with ClearFont1 :D`
`23:29.33`	`Kirkburn`	`nevcairiel, really?`
`23:29.33`	`nevcairiel`	`I still do need ClearFont2_Design, right?`
`23:29.34`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`23:29.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Then it must be a change with Tablet itself, hmm`
`23:29.41`	`nevcairiel`	`i didnt bother to update yet`
`23:29.42`	`*** mode/#wowace [+b *!n=astrayca@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] by Tekkub`
`23:29.46`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`23:29.48`	`nevcairiel`	`but i am now`
`23:29.49`	`Kirkburn`	`No to your question`
`23:30.00`	`Tekkub`	`he can ask for the ban to be lifted when he's fixed his reconnect`
`23:30.03`	`nevcairiel`	`## Dependencies: ClearFont2_Design`
`23:30.07`	`nevcairiel`	`you should remove that, then :D`
`23:30.24`	`nevcairiel`	`oh`
`23:30.25`	`nevcairiel`	`doh`
`23:30.27`	`nevcairiel`	`nvm me`
`23:30.42`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`23:30.48`	`Kirkburn`	`Useless, you are`
`23:32.16`	`Kirkburn`	`nevcairiel, the outline definately appeared with CF1?`
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`23:32.46`	`Kirkburn`	`Cause if so, the first tablet line must be using a subtly different fontstring`
`23:32.58`	`nevcairiel`	`yes it did`
`23:33.05`	`nevcairiel`	`i always wonderd where that came from`
`23:34.10`	`Tekkub`	`there any new stuff in the WV gifts under the tree?`
`23:34.26`	`Tekkub`	`(should I re-instate my Live acct just for gifts or not?)`
`23:34.53`	`Kirkburn`	`How long has the outline thing been going on for?`
`23:34.56`	`nevcairiel`	`there is a wand to make everyone laugh!`
`23:35.02`	`nevcairiel`	`dunno`
`23:35.04`	`Nickenyfiken`	`I picked up giftes with two chars and i didn't get anything good`
`23:35.45`	`Tekkub`	`well last year's were food/drinks, snowball minipets and that yeti`
`23:36.21`	`Zicon`	`nickenyfiken: What did you get, then?`
`23:36.30`	`nevcairiel`	`there is another yeti, more pets, and preserved holly :D`
`23:36.56`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea the shitty holly`
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`23:37.33`	`sylvanaar`	`is there a mod that will save the end of bg data?`
`23:37.50`	`CIA-17`	`03kagaro * r22237 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Note module now has an show notifications option to stop spamm from dums`
`23:38.51`	`Kirkburn`	`nevcairiel, I'll bring it up with ckk`
`23:39.02`	ag`	`does anyone know if the validate setting can be a menu?`
`23:39.19`	ag`	`bleh`
`23:39.23`	ag`	`I mean a function`
`23:39.25`	ag`	`in aceconsole`
`23:39.55`	`nevcairiel`	`try it ? :)`
`23:40.00`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Zicon: uh like crap i dont even remeber... eggnog and a raindeer mount and some of those things that turn your mount into a deer`
`23:40.01`	ag`	`I will now`
`23:40.03`	`Nickenyfiken`	`stuff like that`
`23:40.03`	`nevcairiel`	`but i dont think so`
`23:40.27`	`nevcairiel`	`Kirkburn: its not really bad tho, just looks funny on some tablets which dont have a real caption`
`23:40.27`	`Zicon`	`nickenyfiken: Uhm, a dedicated reindeer mount? o_O`
`23:40.34`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52363`
`23:40.45`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i dont remember the names of the other gift boxes`
`23:40.48`	`nevcairiel`	`only the preserved holly`
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`23:41.43`	`Tekkub`	`yea the gift suck donkey balls`
`23:42.02`	`nevcairiel`	`the stupid elixir of frostpower drop is way too low`
`23:42.08`	`nevcairiel`	`thats one thing i _would_ want`
`23:42.08`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`23:42.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Well those silly tablets should get a caption =)`
`23:44.12`	`Nickenyfiken`	`is there any "guide" on how to use/create/manage lua tables?`
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`23:45.33`	`kergoth`	`i assume you haven't yet read PIL, since you wouldn't need such a guide if you had. I suggest you fix that`
`23:47.05`	`Nickenyfiken`	`PIL?`
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`23:47.41`	`kergoth`	`programming in lua, the book on lua which is available on the lua site`
`23:47.44`	`nevcairiel`	`asking that proofes his point tho :D`
`23:47.48`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`23:48.04`	`kergoth`	`apparently going to www.lua.org and clicking on "Documentation" is beyond many users`
`23:48.37`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah well i have been using the reference manual some when i first started`
`23:48.46`	`kergoth`	`you must be so proud.`
`23:48.53`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol`
`23:50.47`	`Nickenyfiken`	`sorry for asking i was lazy i should have found that info on my own`
`23:51.49`	`kergoth`	`laziness is a programming virtue, just remember that the rest of us are just as lazy, so arent going to do your work for you :P`
`23:52.04`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i just wanted to rewrite my mod to be a good performer`
`23:52.10`	`Thrae`	`If you had read the manual in the FIRST place, then you would already know that you are always suppose to read the manual before asking questions! It's right there on Page 21, paragraph 3 -- "Always refer to this manual before asking questions on IRC."`
`23:52.12`	`Baraius`	`(Buying book from Amazon now...)`
`23:52.15`	vid`	`hmm`
`23:52.25`	`Baraius`	`(Because Kergoth is just that influential)`
`23:52.28`	vid`	`for some reason, every time i kill a mob in AQ, my chat log prints '43'`
`23:52.30`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
`23:52.30`	vid`	`and nothing else`
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`23:52.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`having no print() is retarded; who thought up that idea?`
`23:52.49`	`Nickenyfiken`	`and because it's using Ace and i dont want to destroy the reputation that all Ace mods is the best/fastest mods :-P`
`23:53.40`	`kergoth`	`hyperChipmunk, well, i can see not including it.. in the interpreter there is a definitive output mechanism -- stdout. in a graphical environment, theres no single definitive output mechanism, there are lots of chat windows and such`
`23:53.52`	`kergoth`	`but it would be handy to not have to define one ourselves all thet ime indeed`
`23:53.54`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`23:53.58`	`kergoth`	`god i hate perl`
`23:54.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, screw that`
`23:54.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage`
`23:54.22`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://worlds-highest-website.com/`
`23:54.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`who wants to type that`
`23:54.30`	`Thrae`	`People that claim "Ace Mods" are better then non-Ace are misunderstanding the circumstances. Ace is a framework that strives for performance without sacrificing usability. You can mangle usage of that framework and forgo anything it may have given you.`
`23:54.32`	`nife`	`perl's not nearly as bad as some languages`
`23:55.17`	`kergoth`	`i should say that i hate trying to maintain perl code, my own or otherwise. functionally its effective, just .. not as maintainable as others`
`23:55.31`	`Thrae`	`The reason Ace is touted is because it's a standard everyone can follow and adapt to, instead of everyone having their own standard. It's not suppose to make code better, it's suppose to make code-Rs better!`
`23:55.33`	`nife`	`TRUE. Very true.`
`23:55.47`	`kergoth`	`Thrae, well said`
`23:55.57`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Thrae: well what i meant was that if a end user use a mod that hase ace2 libs embedded and it knows i has ace2 libs it may think its slow because of using ace2...`
`23:55.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`maintaining perl code?`
`23:56.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i wasn't aware that was even possible`
`23:56.50`	`Thrae`	`Nickenyfiken: Try to argue filesize vs memory usage vs performance to people and watch their heads explode`
`23:56.54`	`kergoth`	`in a sense, ace is just another manifestation of the virtue of laziness. coded to reduce the overall unnecessary work of the programmers in the community`
`23:57.09`	`nife`	`better then maintaining smalltalk/squeak code`
`23:57.52`	`Thrae`	`"That latest revision doubled the filesize of TinyTip in Warmup!" "Yeah, but now it's faster and sleeker." "...But it's DOUBLE the FILESIZE!"`
`23:58.06`	vid`	`anyoine have any idea what mod is printing out 44 45 46 46 etc every time i kill mobs in AQ20? :P`
`23:58.18`	vid`	`before i start disabling stuff 1 by 1`
`23:58.36`	`Zicon`	`thrae: Yes, isn't it fun?!`
`23:59.01`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Thrae: hehe yeah`
`23:59.08`	`Thrae`	`Speaking of tooltips, I'm well anticipating the next patch. It seems to have some very nice things I've been waiting for, for a long time.`
`23:59.51`	`nife`	`like ?`

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