irclog2html for #wowace on 20061225

00:00.55NirekFinally.
00:00.56CIA-1703nirek * r22062 10Evpsets/EvpSets.toc: Evpsets: foo
00:02.04CIA-1703ckknight * r22063 10ClearFont2/ (Core.lua Design.lua):
00:02.04CIA-17ClearFont2:
00:02.04CIA-17- now shows scale as percentage.
00:02.04CIA-17- now goes through all fontstrings and updates their font (not their scale or style). This makes special fontstrings such as on FuBar and Tablet to update their font without reloading.
00:02.13ckknightplztest
00:02.32Nireknow watch that wasnt the reason :p
00:02.50ckknightit's slightly hackish, but it works quite well
00:02.58ckknightgranted, ClearFont is a hack in and of itself
00:03.08Kirkburnheh
00:03.21navvoh, clearfont2 is actually working and stuff?
00:03.35navvthought it was some sort of developmentversion
00:03.39Amadeockknight: Captain Kirk is not a hack!
00:03.43ZealotOnAStick~seen Neuro
00:03.49purlneuro is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 17h 46m 13s). Has said a total of 71 messages. Is idling for 12h 38m 20s, last said: 'now I'll never find out how to do it!'.
00:04.48Kirkburnhaha
00:04.51Nirekhrm, would having it as .Lua in the toc screw things up?:p
00:04.57Kirkburnnavv, yup ClearFont2 is released
00:05.08KirkburnIt's not 'final' or anything, but it works better than CF1 :)
00:05.13ckknightand now it works shinily with FuBar and Tablet!
00:05.24navvcf1 seems to work just fine, only issue i at one point had was the ... thing
00:05.27navvbut ui scale fixed that
00:05.36KirkburnClearFont2 has in-game options
00:05.39Kirkburnckknight, can't test myself right now, plus going to bed for Xmas and all that :P
00:05.48ckknightKirkburn, ah, okay
00:05.49ckknightit works
00:05.55ckknightit didn't break anything
00:05.57KirkburnI believe you =)
00:06.05ckknightI tend to update mods I use
00:06.09ckknighteven if they aren't mine
00:06.15ckknightjust how I am
00:06.20KirkburnCan you update the tooltip for the options though? It still says scale factor :P
00:06.27hasteso.... I 'need' to have fubar and friends to use clearfont now?
00:06.39ckknightKirkburn, technically a percentage can be used as a factor
00:06.39Kirkburnhaste, well obviously, duh :)
00:06.44ckknightno, haste
00:06.53navvi would hope fubar and wahtnot are optional
00:06.54ag`_haste: no, you've never had to have fubar to use a fubar addon
00:07.01hasteag`_: I know that
00:07.04tlund<PROTECTED>
00:07.06UE|Daemona*grumbles*
00:07.08tlundoops :)
00:07.08hasteI was more thinking without fubar-plugin
00:07.24UE|Daemonai know i had stuff in gatherer, but it doesnt get imported :/
00:07.34KirkburnAh, I thought you were joking
00:08.05ZealotOnAStickUE|Daemona - current gatherer dev alpha, or pre-2.0 gatherer?
00:08.16UE|Daemonadev-alpha
00:08.24ckknightyea, won't work
00:08.24ZealotOnAStickI suspect that's why.
00:08.39UE|Daemona*grumbles more and tries with the pre-2.0 with hacked toc
00:08.58CIA-1703nirek * r22064 10Evpsets/Evpsets.toc: Evpsets: bleh typo, I quit heh
00:08.59KemayoWell, you used to need to have FuBar to use the addons.  That changed sometime in 2.0, though.
00:09.09ZealotOnAStickThough if you're wanting to supplant Gatherer's userbase, ckknight, having the importer figure out which version the savedvars is and then import accordingly is probably not unwise.
00:09.45ZealotOnAStickKemayo - I thought it was FuBar 1.2 that made it possible for addons to function without FuBar without, docking to the minimap and all?
00:09.46Kirkburnckknight, thanks for looking at it. You are authorised to continue ;) I shall get back to looking at it after Xmas
00:09.59ZealotOnAStickor am I once again wrong and it was just with 2.0?
00:10.08KemayoI may be misremembering. :)
00:10.16ZealotOnAStickone of us is.  ;)
00:10.27ckknightZealotOnAStick, I talked to norganna, he doesn't even know
00:10.35UE|Daemonawhy cant it simply go and read from the gatherer.lua savedvaribale file?
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00:10.42Nirekwell damn, its there now :p
00:10.48ckknightUE|Daemona, something has to load the SV
00:11.02UE|Daemonalet the importer load it? :X
00:11.04KirkburnNirek, cool
00:11.25KirkburnI'm off now ... see ya'll soon. Merry Xmas!
00:11.34UE|Daemonai could even be told to rename it cartographer_import.lua to make it work ;)
00:11.39Kirkburn(hit midnight about 10 mins ago for me)
00:11.40ZealotOnAStickNot a bad idea.  Perhaps include an optional set of dummy .tocs with the importer module in a sub-dir that can be moved out to yank in xxx addon's data?
00:11.40Nirekit was either the filename, or the typo in the toc, with a capatilized .Lua, bleh picky stuff, yay, now to christmas crap
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00:14.55ckknighthrm, it might be worthwhile to just do the rename deal.
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00:16.00ZealotOnAStickckknight - Norganna doesn't know what?  How to distinguish the versions, or why the new one doesn't work, or what?
00:16.17CIA-1703ag * r22065 10Click2Cast/Click2CastMenu.lua:
00:16.17CIA-17Click2Cast:
00:16.17CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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00:17.21Fisker-so excited i left the channel lol
00:17.24Fisker-exalted with silvermoon
00:18.25CIA-1703funkydude * r22066 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: add The Stockade
00:18.41ckknightZealotOnAStick, how to distinguish
00:18.48ckknightbecause the upgrading is a manual process
00:19.14CIA-1703funkydude * r22067 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/ (enUS.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua notes.lua zhTW.lua): Cartographer: InstanceNotes: check babble for The Stockade
00:19.15ag`_ckknight: is there a way to prevent CT from controlling my fonts?
00:19.34ag`_like, some string I'd like to ignore CT settings
00:20.47UE|Daemona*grumbles some more*
00:20.55AmadeoBT3 has some scale issues
00:21.03*** join/#wowace markv (n=markv@wnpgmb06dc1-184-176.dynamic.mts.net)
00:21.25UE|Daemonacartographer + herbalism + importer + toc-hacked pre2.0 gatherer -> no import
00:22.09Fisker-http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5413/exaltedbr1.jpg
00:22.45Amadeonevcairiel: You around?
00:23.43ckknightag`_, yea, don't use CT
00:23.44ckknight:-P
00:23.50ckknightI don't know, though
00:24.03ZealotOnAStickWell, there's the perl converter script . . .
00:24.08ag`_well, aguf has layout files where the themes define the font type
00:24.35ZealotOnAStickIf you just want your herb db, and don't care so much about getting the import module to do it, dcc me the old gatherer.lua file and I'll send you back the herbalism one.
00:25.36bindigz Fisker-
00:25.45ag`_ah yes
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00:25.57Fisker-thx bindi :P
00:26.05ag`_an option to disable the logic that iterates all font objects
00:26.05UE|DaemonaZealotOnAStick just let me quickly find out if i can dcc through this proxy ;)
00:26.10ag`_that would be nice
00:26.50ZealotOnAStickargh.
00:27.02ZealotOnAStickBeta wants everything with a 20003 toc?
00:27.06ckknightyea
00:27.15ZealotOnAStick*mutters*
00:27.18UE|Daemonazealot, got the dcc?
00:27.18CIA-1703kagaro * r22068 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer: changed comm channel to GROUP from RAID so bg raids work, and stopped firing the NoteSet event when a note is received via comm message
00:27.43ZealotOnAStickno.
00:27.50ZealotOnAStickYou have DCC set to passive mode?
00:27.54UE|Daemonak, brb fuxxing around with the proxy ;)
00:27.57ckknightkagaro, hey, the noteset thing is supposed to fire.
00:28.11ZealotOnAStickcan do e-mail as an option too.
00:28.21kagarowhen a note is sent if something is listening for it and rebroadcasting it loops
00:28.35ckknighthere's a solution for both of us.
00:28.56ckknightyou add another argument to the NoteSet function, a boolean that dictates whether it came from Comm
00:29.01ckknighttada.
00:29.09ckknightthen you just check the boolean.
00:29.13ckknightsound reasonable?
00:29.39kagaroyeah i did it a round about way .. added a self.puaseVent that is set before the call is made, then unset after
00:29.51kagaroin OnCommReceive
00:29.52ckknighthrm.
00:29.59ckknightlemme just mess with it
00:30.26kagaroi just wanted to take the hack out i had in the share module to stop the event it was ugly
00:31.02CIA-1703kagaro * r22069 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: removed ugly oncomm hack
00:31.08*** join/#wowace Daemona (i=bqgqze@ns20322.ovh.net)
00:31.38DaemonaZealotOnAStick *pokes with a dcc send*
00:32.00DaemonaAmadeo i know my ip changed
00:32.09Daemonano need to send me a query for that
00:32.53AmadeoSorry, I forget that some people are stuck in the 80's :)
00:33.12Daemonawhy?
00:33.13ZealotOnAStickstill no.
00:33.36Daemonathat used to work :/
00:34.02Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=102050424&sid=1
00:34.03Fisker-win
00:34.15CIA-1703ckknight * r22070 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - now instead of not firing SetNote on comm, it appends an argument which tells whether the note is set from comm or not.
00:34.29ckknightkagaro, you'll want to update your Noteshare mod
00:34.32KemayoCartographer_Mining/Herbalism thought.  Given that it is obviously possible to translate points on the minimap into coordinates, could notes be auto-added by examining the positioning of the Detect Herbs / Ore dots?
00:34.51ckknightKemayo, problem is figuring out the positions of the dots
00:34.57AmadeoFisker-: What'd you do to get exalted?
00:34.58ckknightthe game doesn't want the API to see them.
00:35.11ckknightI've tried messing with it
00:35.23Fisker-Amadeo av's lots of it
00:35.27KemayoAh, okay.  I figured they'd just be unnamed children of the map. ;_;
00:35.31Amadeohaha
00:35.43CIA-1703ag * r22071 10ClearFont2/ (Core.lua Design.lua):
00:35.43CIA-17ClearFont2:
00:35.44CIA-17<PROTECTED>
00:36.19ag`_ckknight: I simply made an option for cf2 to iterate through font objects or not to
00:36.19Ordoggn8
00:37.08ckknightag`_, okay, sounds good.
00:37.59ckknighthrm
00:38.04ckknightmaybe I have another solution!
00:38.35ckknightbtw, you said CT, not CF
00:38.52ag`_thought of microsoft cleartype
00:38.57ag`_I meant CF
00:38.59AmadeoI don't think all compliations should be allowed on WoWI
00:39.04ckknightI thought Cide/Ts
00:39.13ag`_yeah I know
00:39.14ag`_:P
00:39.15AmadeoOnly compliations where the author actually does something other than put other peoples addons in a zip file
00:39.56AmadeoClearType is bad on my old CRT :P
00:39.57CIA-1703quetz * r22072 10Q_FWG/ (Q_FWG.lua Q_FWG.toc Q_FWG.xml):
00:39.57CIA-17Q_FWG:
00:39.57CIA-17- Now uses Cartographer for Map notes (if available)
00:39.57CIA-17- Some DB and code clean-up
00:40.11kagaroahh I see what your saving ck, i miss understood, thought you meant add another param to SetNote function not the event
00:41.18Neeblerquetz I love you
00:41.44Quetziahh, theres 1 at least xD
00:42.15AmadeoWhat's Q_FWG do?
00:42.26Quetzifelwood plant timers
00:42.29Amadeoahhh
00:42.55Daemonaformerly known as FelWoodGatherer
00:42.56Daemona;)
00:43.00Quetziidd
00:43.16Daemonabut since you cant use whiper and nightdragon parallel anymore it sucks :(
00:43.19AmadeoI'm too lazy to farm Felwood
00:43.29Daemonai just keep those 10 per week i need for loatheb
00:43.33AmadeoPlus I'd rather beat the potion chuggers in PvP without them
00:43.49AmadeoSome people run around with a potion in each hand, I think
00:44.06Funkeh`i think it needs a new name
00:44.14Quetzime too ;)
00:44.16Funkeh`or it won't get recognised and used by the majority
00:44.25Daemonai am a rogue, but with raid inventory i am more chingy then a alchemy laboratory *cling clang*
00:44.27Quetzibut i'm lacking inspiration
00:44.35CIA-1703kagaro * r22073 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: adjusted code for new event variable
00:44.49Funkeh`whats wrong with FelwoofTimers?
00:45.00Funkeh`nice basic, to the point, says what it is in teh title
00:45.09Funkeh`-f+d even
00:45.12CIA-1703ckknight * r22074 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2 - only dynamically update fonts when they are equal to the last font, therefore special fonts such as user-set addon-specific fonts will not be touched.
00:45.12AmadeoFunkeh`: Your version makes me think of dogs!
00:45.17kagarook that fixes my loop problem
00:45.20Funkeh`lol
00:45.22Funkeh`^^
00:45.25ckknightag`_, test?
00:45.31kagaroand note to raid work in BG's now
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00:46.10ag`_I will ckknight, now
00:46.30ag`_also ckknight please say if the hack I did to change action text name is bad
00:46.35ag`_in c2c
00:47.13ckknightlemme check
00:47.56ag`_wierd thing I noticed with CF2
00:48.02ag`_if I open a dewdrop from fubar
00:48.13ag`_the text gets bolder after 1 sec
00:48.32ag`_you change seems to work on aguf ckknight
00:48.39ag`_good good
00:48.51ckknightyea, I saw that
00:49.00ckknightdon't know what the issue was with the bolding deal
00:49.36ag`_if you disable "apply to all addons" it doesn't happen
00:49.49ckknightyour hack is fine for C2C
00:49.56ag`_ok
00:50.05ag`_was just a bit worried when you said it couldn't be done
00:50.07AmadeoDoes tekkub still work on MountMe?
00:50.11ag`_and I made it happen anyway
00:51.35hasteAmadeo: post-poned to 2.0.3 afaik
00:52.59Amadeohaste: thanks :)
00:55.01CIA-1703ckknight * r22075 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast.lua Click2CastMenu.lua): Click2Cast - update menu on profile change
00:57.50ag`_ckk
00:57.55Amadeonight
00:58.00Amadeojust finishing it
00:58.15CIA-1703quetz * r22076 10FelwoodFarmer/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
00:58.15CIA-17FelwoodFarmer:
00:58.16CIA-17- Initial Commit (New name for Q_FWG)
00:58.41ag`_I need an iterator that goes mouse1-no modifier to mouse1-shift mouse1-alt mouse1-ctrl, then mouse2-no mod mouse2 shift and so on, for the tablet
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00:59.29ag`_I have the tablet done now, I just need it sorted like that
01:01.15SP|Sorren(pssst, who's rabbit?)
01:01.23Amadeovhaarr
01:02.28SP|Sorrenim curious why he added surfacelib to my mod, added options for it an all, and didnt make it do anything :O
01:03.34waffleanyone else have a problem with clearfont2 making everything bold?
01:04.08Daemona(01:49:00) (@ckknight) don't know what the issue was with the bolding deal
01:05.24CIA-1703quetz * r22077 10FelwoodFarmer/ (. FelwoodFarmer.toc): FelwoodFarmer: Update externals+keywords
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01:15.17CIA-1703funkydude * r22078 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: Fix 'Mr. Smite' at The Deadmines
01:15.29Amadeohaha, Mr. Smite
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01:15.38CIA-1703funkydude * r22079 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: add The Deadmines
01:15.51AahzEvening Folks.
01:16.23CIA-1703funkydude * r22080 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/ (enUS.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua notes.lua zhTW.lua): Cartographer: InstanceNotes: check Babble for The Deadmines
01:16.46Funkeh`another instance bites the dust
01:16.54AahzAre basic ace style mod use questions acceptable here, or developer questions only?
01:17.20vhaarrSorren: Looking at the code now, I just forgot about it, since I don't use your mod myself.
01:18.10SP|Sorrenim trying to figure out if you implemented it anywhere
01:18.16vhaarrSorren: You have a lot to learn about Ace2 and the available libraries, your code is a jungle.
01:18.18AmadeoAahz: Probably anything you want, within reason :)
01:18.21SP|Sorrenbecause i spent a good amount of time adding pretty much just that :(
01:18.27SP|Sorrenvhaarr :P
01:18.38AahzExcelent, just want I wanted to hear.
01:18.41vhaarrSorren: And figuring out how to use SurfaceLib should be the easiest task in the world.
01:19.01hasteIt even has API docs!
01:19.13hastebut reading the code is probably 10x faster
01:19.16vhaarrSorren: Making your mod actually use the setting is one line of code, and 12 bytes of text changes.
01:19.33vhaarrSorren: Even explaining it to you here takes longer than fixing it and committing the fix.
01:20.05SP|Sorrenwell, its time for dinner
01:20.07AahzI'v been playing with various bar mods and was giving Bartender3 a try, mostly because I heard it had a target context bar option (ie the bar changes on if your target is hostile or friendly).  Dose anyone know about this feature, or did I just get some misinformation about it?
01:20.08SP|Sorrenill tinker with it later
01:20.14vhaarrSorren: You need to read up on FuBarPlugin-2.0 and AceOptions.
01:20.32vhaarrSorren: Your mods code could be cut to 70% of its current size in minutes.
01:20.32SP|Sorrenmy aceoptions table is terrible, and i didnt write the fubar plugin lol
01:20.42SP|Sorrenoh?
01:20.56SP|Sorrenwell i do plan to redo the fubar part
01:21.03vhaarrLike I said, you need to read and learn.
01:21.13AmadeoAahz: That I'm not sure of, I'm not using BT3 right now, but someone else in here might know...just have to wait and see if they're reading :)
01:21.16SP|Sorrenoh well, i need to go
01:21.20SP|Sorrenciao~
01:21.33AahzKay, thanks for trying though Amadeo. :)
01:21.43AmadeoI didn't know about that feature, personally
01:22.08AmadeoBut it's a good addon, one of only two I'd personally use
01:22.28HjalteAahz, that feature isn't implemented as of today.. I hope it will be later.
01:22.30AahzI read it in a feature discussion on the forums, but it was dated in november, so I'm not sure if it made it in or not.  This has been the hardest feature to find in any mod lately.
01:22.45AahzAh, so i'm not going crazy.  Thanks Hjalte.
01:23.02HjalteAahz, the old bartender2 had that feature :)
01:23.24AahzI used Discord Group Buttons back then for the functionality. :)
01:24.00AahzNow i'm tring to be all cool and aced now... with a few exceptions.
01:29.22AmadeoJust use whatever is best for you :)
01:29.22AahzWell the ACE route has worked well for me so far.
01:29.22AmadeoI have quite a few Ace2 addons that I can't live without, fewer non-Ace, but I normally just choose the best for me regardless of what it uses
01:34.59Fisker-so i think this was about the last time i EVER visited AV again
01:34.59[Cu]WerikWhat happened?:)
01:34.59Fisker-i got exalted with silvermoon city
01:34.59hasteFisker-: oh, may I ask how?
01:35.04Fisker-av
01:35.09haste:O!
01:35.21hastetell me more
01:35.35[Cu]Werikhe handed it stuff
01:35.35Fisker-refer to my friends troll post
01:35.36Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=102050424&sid=1
01:35.38Fisker-yeah
01:35.45[Cu]Werikhe handed in stuff
01:35.55[Cu]Werikbut you will need AV tokens in tbc
01:35.59[Cu]Werik;]
01:36.23Fisker-not intending on getting pvp rewards
01:36.29Fisker-http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1643/maxexaltedqj9.jpg
01:36.42Fisker-although i might get the gems
01:36.43hasteFisker-: how long did it take?
01:36.45Fisker-but they're only honor
01:36.53Fisker-about a week
01:36.59[Cu]WerikYea, its not a big deal
01:37.07[Cu]Werikand it rises other factions too
01:37.17Fisker-i probably did ~80ish av's
01:37.26Fisker-and i was already exalted with org so i got more rep(or so i was told
01:37.27Fisker-)
01:37.38[Cu]Werikyup
01:38.02Fisker-but the quests gives loads of org rep so exalted with them should be easy
01:38.10[Cu]Werikwell, reputation is not such a big issue in the expansion as in the old client
01:38.22[Cu]Werikactually, I think they implemented the new reputation schemes in 2.0.0
01:38.26Fisker-they did
01:38.27Fisker-:)
01:38.47[Cu]Werikso basically you are honored with your faction around lvl10:)
01:38.54Fisker-yeah :<
01:38.59GarounI actually just got stuck in an av that alliance hadn't even capped IB tower at the 20min mark... sigh
01:39.14Fisker-also read about some guy who was almost exalted with everything as level 45ish
01:39.24Fisker-if only it was that easy back then :/
01:40.44navvwell outside of honored the factions are pretty meaningless
01:41.05Fisker-still mount, but that's also somewhat negated since you can get pvp mounts easy
01:41.14Fisker-although i think we'll see less faction grinding for mounts
01:41.21Fisker-which makes our faction grinding somewhat worth it :P
01:41.25navvyeah i suppose there's the mounts now
01:41.32[Cu]Werikwell I'm rerolling from human paladin to bloodelf
01:41.47[Cu]Werikand i'm thinking of stopping with the powerleveling at 60 and pick up the AV elite mount
01:42.09[Cu]Werikits a day of pvp basically:)
01:42.34Amadeonot on my server
01:42.39[Cu]Werikand I could save 600ish gold
01:42.39Amadeo15 minute queues for AV
01:42.44Amadeo1-2 hour games
01:42.46[Cu]Werikeven if its 2 days
01:42.51Fisker-<PROTECTED>
01:42.56Fisker-see you guys
01:42.58AmadeoYou can't save that much anymore :(
01:43.04[Cu]Werikoutlands is killer without epic mount:)
01:43.06AmadeoBecause they require 150 riding skill
01:43.29[Cu]Werikthey lower elite mount costs in tbc
01:43.34Amadeoby how much?
01:43.52[Cu]Werikits around 540 with the rank10 and faction bonus
01:43.56[Cu]Werikerm, rank3
01:44.15Amadeothat's still a lot!
01:44.21Amadeoa mount itself is like 80g?
01:44.23Garounrank 10?
01:44.35Garounwhen did they say anything about rank 10?
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01:44.57Garounrank 3 bonus is gone thoguh :/
01:45.19Garounor at least I haven't seen anything about a way to acheive it now
01:45.25[Cu]Werikah, right
01:45.49[Cu]Werikwell, its still around 540g , dont know exactly, thoug I might just go and check it now:)
01:46.30GarounI still wish they would have made flying mounts ground based  for non-expansion lands
01:46.53[Cu]Werikthat would look utterly stupid you know that
01:47.15Garounyeah, but it'd be fiscally better :)
01:47.25[Cu]Werikthey are like 3 times bigger than the actual mounts
01:47.53GarounI already find it dumb that the 2 flying mounts are both only acheivable at 70, but both cost a ton
01:48.07Garounthe non-epic version should have been at 68 like druid flight form
01:48.21[Cu]Werikwell yeah
01:48.26[Cu]Werikthough from my point of view
01:48.35[Cu]Werik68 vs 70 is 2 days of gameplay:)
01:48.41[Cu]Werikmaximum:P
01:48.50Garounyeah, but at least it would 'look' worth it :P
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01:49.40[Cu]WerikI probably wont buy the normal flying mount, it looks ugly:P
01:51.27Garounit's not worth it, granted I'm also a druid and my bc toon will be a lock, so it wont' matter anyway
01:51.42CIA-1703arkayenro 07v1.25 savepoint 1 * r22081 10ArkInventory/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
01:51.42CIA-17ArkInventory:
01:51.42CIA-17- v1.25 before trying something i probably shouldnt
01:52.42[Cu]Werikwell
01:52.55[Cu]Werikyou know, lvl60 mount quests are a pain in the ass
01:53.06Amadeoawesome, he's still working on ArkInventory
01:53.13Garounyeah, but not with some >60 toons :)
01:53.15[Cu]WerikAnd they cost more than 630 gold:)
01:53.35Garounalready have friends with the majority of the costly items
01:53.40[Cu]Werikwell, not sure if they cost more, but they are about that value
01:54.11Garounbut you also get the mount and the epic riding, so cna't complain
01:54.53Garounnot to mention the current price of a lot of the quest ingredients are going to drop after TBC because people won't care about them
01:54.59[Cu]Werikand as I said
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01:55.11[Cu]Werikyou can get pvp mounts a lot easier than before
01:55.53Garounguess it depends on how you like to get them, I'd rather do the quests then sit in the BGs forever :/ and the pvp mounts don't give riding skill
01:56.44ZealotOnAStickDaemona - sorry, got a phone call that took a while I had to take.
01:56.52Garounjust comes down to what you prefer perieved or otherwise :)
01:57.07ZealotOnAStickthe perl convert script is producing nothing from the gatherer.lua you sent me.  Is that a new version of it?
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01:57.52[Cu]WerikJourneyman Riding: 540g
01:57.56[Cu]Werikepic mount 90g
01:57.59[Cu]Werikchecked it:)
01:58.18Amadeoso you save 90g
01:58.32[Cu]Werikits 720g now
01:58.36Garounwhen did they up the epic mount cost
01:58.37AmadeoUnless Time = Money!
01:58.42Garounit's like 10g on live right now
01:58.51[Cu]Werikno;)
01:59.23SarozAnyone tried this DKPmon?
01:59.59ag`_Someone with skills help me out
02:00.03ag`_I need to sort a table
02:00.28mjcag`_: ok
02:00.41ag`_{mouse4,mouse2,mouse3,mouse1,mouse5}
02:00.42mjcag`_: numeric sort or index sort
02:00.46mjcah
02:00.49ag`_how do I sort it by number?
02:01.01ag`_I suck hard at iterators, next, pairs() and so on
02:01.13ag`_Can't grasp how it works
02:01.16uszag`_, are those strings?
02:05.30DaemonaZealotOnAStick np :)
02:05.40ag`_usz: yes
02:06.08uszag`_, normal table.sort(...) would sort it
02:06.19ag`_that string is the index
02:06.27uszso its key?
02:06.30ag`_yes
02:06.51uszwell the table you shown few lines above got number indexes ^^
02:07.15ag`_let me clarify it
02:07.15uszin general table.sort(table, function) works for values only iirc
02:07.44uszand in the process keys are lost
02:08.03ag`_{mouse4 = "poly",mouse2 = "somespell",mouse3 = "dispel",mouse1 = "flash heal" ,mouse5 = "renew"}
02:08.16uszok, what do you want to be outcome of sorting?
02:08.23ag`_I need an for k,v in something do
02:08.33ag`_that returns it in the correct order
02:09.05Nargiddleyit'll always just be mouse1..5 ?
02:09.10ag`_yes
02:09.13uszok, think you would have to create temp table, into witch you would insert keys
02:09.15uszthen sort it
02:09.25uszand then when it comes to iterator function, just get next from it
02:09.36uszreferring to original table
02:09.38ThraeAlright -- what does everyone use to extend their macros past the 255 character limit?
02:09.40Nargiddleyjust use a counter 1 to 5, then do somthing with table["mouse"..counter]
02:09.54uszyou know how to do it, or shall I make some draft code?
02:10.20ag`_sure, I haven't really figured out iterators so I'd like to see some example code
02:10.29ThraeTinypad is having issues.
02:11.04hasteThrae: an add on called: Dumps, basicly just a lua file with X number of functions I use in some macros
02:12.12Thraehaste: Yeah, that's what I did pre-2.0 myself, but the new macro system is strict enough it doesn't make sense for the extra effort.
02:12.30hastethen you use more buttons
02:13.06ThraeErm, one macro can't call another, right?
02:14.02uszag`_, belive this would do http://ace.pastey.net/3980
02:14.05hastenot that I know of
02:15.41ThraeHmmm.
02:16.37Thraehaste: Exactly how does putting it in an addon fix the 255 character limit? I thought you couldn't do if (foo) then CastSpell() else CastAnotherSpell() end, anymore.
02:17.09hasteYou can still do other stuff :)
02:17.27ThraeAh wait, maybe you can send all the same conditional casts through a different function?
02:22.29ThraeHmm, lemme check MacroUI.
02:33.55Xogxogag`_, agUF doesn't seem very happy with my shapeshifting. :/ My manabar's gauge doesn't update. I've got 100% mana, the numbers are right, but the gauge's stuck at like.. 8%
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02:35.26ag`_I think there's some event I missed registering perhaps
02:40.05tlundag`_: when I am both the raid leader and master looter, are the crown and bag icons supposed to overlap?
02:40.38ag`_maybe they're pretty close, I don't remember, take a look at the theme file
02:40.52ag`_in layouts/abf.lua (or whatever theme you use)
02:42.08tlundim at my parents house for xmas, dont have the stuff here now :/
02:44.13tlundbut let me rephrase: with the layout i use, the crown and bag icons overlap. :)
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02:44.33toddag, when I'm party leader, then leave the group, the crown icon stays
02:44.34tlundbut right now, im not even sure what the name of the layout i selected is :)
02:44.35toddit makes me sad :(
02:44.51ag`_todd: the crown is bugged yep
02:45.06ag`_tlund: tell me :)
02:45.51tlundag`_: ill get a SS for you in about .. 18 hours :)
02:46.15KarlThePaganpastamancer, ping
02:48.17ag`_tlund: sure, you can catch me here
02:48.30ThraeHmm, very annoying. Not even ChatFrameEditBox:SetText + ChatEdit_SendText is unusable with 2.0 for conditional macros.
02:48.37ag`_eventually send link to my forum account if I am unresponsive
02:48.39Thraes/unusable/usable/
02:48.51tlundag`_: sure
02:49.51tlundhaha
02:49.56tlunds/haha/hehe/
02:50.08tlundintersting bot :)
02:50.18tlunddoes it do advanced regexps? :)
02:51.14tlundabcd
02:51.15tlunds/[aA].*/test/
02:51.27tlund:(
02:58.11[Cu]WerikIs there a version of QuestLevel which works on the current TBC build?
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02:58.22packetlssoh no, tlund is here aswell :)
02:58.33Thrae[Cu]Werik: I use QuestsFu, which has Quest Levels.
02:58.46[Cu]Werik!
02:59.07ThraeFubar_QuestsFu is based off MonkeyQuest.
02:59.44[Cu]Werikugh I dont need those fancy windows
03:00.09ThraeIt's Fubar -- you don't have to detach the "windows" (they call them tooltips) unless you want to.
03:00.23ThraeAnd QuestsFu is very minimalistic.
03:00.32[Cu]Werikhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5688.jpg?
03:00.37[Cu]WerikYou call this minimalistic?
03:00.51[Cu]Werik:P
03:01.28[Cu]Werikhttp://web.t-online.hu/oro18/wowinterface.jpg I call this minimalistic
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03:01.51[Cu]Werikbut it doesnt work on the current tbc build, it doesnt show the questlevels in the questlog:(
03:03.15Thrae[Cu]Werik: Uh, it's setup just like the normal quest log. You can tell it to hide quests per zone, hide completed quests, only show quests in your current zone, etc.
03:03.35[Cu]WerikI dont want those
03:03.40[Cu]Werikbtw that was my screenshot
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03:03.53[Cu]WerikAll I want is the quest level to appear in the quest log
03:04.15ThraeTo show QuestsFu, you mouse-over its icon in your FuBar panel. It doesn't show until you do that.
03:04.31[Cu]WerikWhy load it if I dont need it:)
03:04.34tlundhej hej packetlss :)
03:04.39ThraeI fail to see how this is less minimalistic then the Quests Log.
03:04.53[Cu]WerikI tell you
03:05.32[Cu]WerikQuestlevel is 9kb, questfu is 48
03:05.38Thrae[Cu]Werik: Because it also adds objectives to the tooltips. IE, you need to kill 5 Boars, you've killed 3, so when targetting a Boar it will say "Boar Quest (3/5)"
03:05.58[Cu]WerikBut as I said, I dont need those:P
03:06.07ThraeWell then use QuestLevel.
03:06.24[Cu]WerikI think I'm intelligent enough to know how much boars do I have to kill :)
03:06.49[Cu]WerikAs I also said, QuestLevel doesnt work. That's why I asked if there is an updated version or something:)
03:07.29Hjalte[Cu]Werik: Tsk tsk, once you've tried the objectives in tooltips feature you'll realize how much you missed it. Like.. um.. One of your other addons you love.
03:07.51ThraeI don't think QuestLevel was Ace'd to begin with. Anyway, I realize that, hence I gave you an alternative.
03:08.22[Cu]WerikI doubt it. I need this only so I can see the quest levels in the questlog, which makes it easier to make my powerleveling route for the 1-20 bloodelf zone:P
03:08.34[Cu]WerikI know the quest by heart, I dont need any fancy tooltip magic
03:08.44Xogxog[Cu]Werik, which actionbar mod is that?
03:08.47ThraeThen you can disable it.
03:09.19[Cu]WerikIt's bongos with cyCircled
03:09.35ThraeQuestsFu adds quests levels to the existing Quest Log. Use it until QuestLevel is updated. Never mouseover its icon in FuBar. There you go, an alternative.
03:10.08[Cu]WerikAh, thanks anyway. Guess I will just try to fix QuestLevel:)
03:10.11ThraeYou never need to actually use QuestsFu's interface -- it automatically adds Quest Levels to the existing Quest Log interface.
03:10.23ThraeWell, you could just steal the code from QuestsFu.
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03:11.20[Cu]WerikI just have to figure out what changed between 2.0.1 and 2.0.3
03:12.10Thrae[Cu]Werik: So start with looking at QuestsFu's code for adding quest levels to the Quest Log, since I know that works.
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03:16.50Hjalte[Cu]Werik: What's that casting bar you'ew using, if you dont mind me asking? :)
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03:17.31CIA-17Click2Cast:
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03:17.45[Cu]WerikI think it's the part of the bongos package
03:19.53hastenice!
03:20.03hasteJncl's solution to a skin problem: change your UI Scale!
03:20.08haste"all problems solved"
03:20.10hasteshrugs
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03:24.17ag`_who's jncl?
03:25.17kergothag`_, the guy doing Skinner
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03:25.33CrisCrOssMRRY XMAS!!
03:26.29ag`_so is skinner still an abomination?
03:26.43kenlyricbefore the lord.
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03:35.38Kemayo[Cu]Werik: QuestLevels would be very easy to fix, for what it's worth.
03:35.45HjalteWhat addon can i use to move the mail icon? Prefferably an ace addon..
03:35.49[Cu]WerikNot for me:)
03:36.07[Cu]WerikBut if you have any ideas, I'm completely open for suggestions:)
03:36.58KemayoQuestsFu handles it by securehooking the QuestLog_Update function.  After the log updates it loops over the currently visible quests in the window and adds the level to their text.
03:38.18KemayoIf you look at the function on line 268 of QuestsFu.lua, that's essentially why needs to be done.  Just switch it to using the blizzard questlog functions instead of the Quixote interface, and... :D
03:38.26Kemayos/why/what/
03:39.43CrisCrOssCan someone commit a tweak to honor_fu so that it no longer shows rank etc, since its irrelevant
03:39.49ThraeKemayo: Why, that sounds like a novel idea!
03:40.20[Cu]WerikYeah well Kemayo, at the moment I'm like watching lua code the first time ever;)
03:40.37[Cu]WerikWhich might sounds funny, but true:)
03:41.00ThraeYes, yes, listen to Kemayo. Thrae is just a stupid head.
03:41.48KemayoThrae: Well, we didn't want to bring it up, but since you said it...
03:41.49Kemayo:D
03:43.27KemayoI'm actually very happy about the brokenness of questlevels.  The old way of doing it, by hooking GetQuestLogTitle and messing with its output, made coordinating quests between two users difficult.
03:45.09[Cu]Werikstill, its a cute little addon
03:46.43Thrae[Cu]Werik: He means the method of adding quest levels, not the addon QuestLevels.
03:46.50[Cu]Werikdoh:P
03:47.20Kemayo[Cu]Werik: Also, QuestsFu can be a lot more minimalist than the screenshot you posted.  http://kemayo.dyndns.org:8080/qfu_min.png
03:48.01ThraeKemayo: I already explained that to him, but he's also comparing filesize too.
03:48.04[Cu]WerikWell, you wont convience me. Just look at that frame
03:48.15[Cu]Werikwith that black background and border and all those colored names
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03:49.06[Cu]Weriknot to mention those 3 lines at the bottom
03:49.13[Cu]Werikits a true space waster
03:49.22ThraeI already told him, QuestsFu adds the Quest Levels to the existing Quest Log interface. QuestsFu's interface doesn't replace the Quest Log interface, and with the way FuBar works, it doesn't exist unless you mouse-over the icon in the FuBar panel.
03:49.40KemayoSure, that's why you only bring up the tablet when you want all the details. :-P
03:49.52[Cu]WerikAnd I told you I wont load 37 Kbs of useless functionality:P
03:50.41KemayoHere's how I normally deal with it... http://kemayo.dyndns.org:8080/qfu_tracker.jpg
03:51.31Thrae[Cu]Werik: Remember, filesize is only part of how much an addon takes up in memory. It could have been the case that QuestLevels took up more space then QuestsFu.
03:51.34[Cu]Werikyeah but I dont need any of this, all I need is one number in front of the quest name in the quest log, I dont even need those numbers on the quest tracker:P
03:52.24ThraeYour constant use of emoticons to end every sentence tells me you're just trying to be difficult instead of actually listening.
03:52.37[Cu]WerikIt's just a bad habit
03:59.25cynyris there something special i have to do to get AGUF to display party pets, the frames are not hidden. is there a reset position option?
03:59.28ag`_http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3729.0
03:59.37ag`_cynyr: Wow 2.0.3
04:01.01cynyrahh, pettest seems to work..
04:01.11cynyrag`_: is that tuesdays patch?
04:01.28ag`_not exactly sure when it is out actually
04:01.44ag`_but in 2.0.3 the secure code by blizzard will support pets
04:01.59ag`_until then pets kinda sucks, and will only be available through /aguf pettest
04:02.17cynyryea.. :( stupid blizard
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04:09.44Gamefaqanyone now if arJUna (author of simpleMinimap) joins irc from time to time?
04:10.20CIA-1703kemayo * r22085 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Adjust the position of the checkmark for watched quests if levels are being added.
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04:26.29[Cu]Werikhttp://web.t-online.hu/oro18/tatamm.jpg
04:26.42Q6whats click2cast?
04:27.42ag`_http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3729.0
04:28.12[Cu]Weriklooks like the guy skipped a like accidently that was the problem
04:28.31[Cu]Werikline*
04:29.08Q6so a new clique? :/
04:30.08AahzYeah, an ACE click cast mod.  Looks nice, I might give it a try lator after I get though all this bar configuration.
04:32.39XogxogHow do I hide the Blizzard casting bar? Any tiny-ass mod out to only hide the original casting bar?
04:34.04Gamefaqhide no, only replace
04:34.39AahzJust the casting bar?  Not tiny, you need a frame modifier or a casting bar replacement.
04:37.08XogxogPewP.
04:38.03HjalteActually, an addon to hide different things would be much appreciated - Examples could be casting bar (!), buffs and so on..?
04:40.03HjalteKemayo, you around?
04:50.39AahzYou could probably do it in Visor2
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04:53.09XogxogArgh
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04:53.36XogxogIs there a mod to globally, for all my Aced mods, set the profile I want to use? :/
04:54.41Stavmarckknight: i just heard your podcast with WoW Things considered, enjoyed it greatly. I am glad you are one of the ones in charge of this massive AddOn project. Greatly appreciated.
04:54.59ThraeHeh, another NPR fan.
04:55.25Tricksta_Ckknight is the OWN
04:55.35Tricksta_Yeah, I am a FanBOI
04:55.50ag`_I'm a fan too
04:57.10Funkeh`nn folks, merry christmas
04:58.11ckknightStavmar, :-)
04:58.15ckknightTricksta_, :-)
04:58.27ckknightyou all realize that I am an arrogant, cocky asshole
04:58.34ckknightbut in quite a few cases, I tend to be right.
04:58.54ckknightAahz, it's Ace, not ACE
04:58.58Benumbedthat wording was right, should be if anything goes wrong, its not my fault
04:59.09Benumbederr right=wrong
05:00.08Stavmaractually when i heard your first comments i thought you were an A-Hole then i heard how you dealt with some interesting questions. You are very well versed in dealing with people with intersting questions like that
05:00.57ckknightwell, the show in and of itself is rather boring
05:01.00Stavmarckknight, it was a pleasure to listen to i just wish the audio was a little better, have a good holiday, if you ever take one.
05:01.01ckknightI wanted to spice it up
05:01.06Stavmaryou did
05:01.22AahzAce is'nt an acronym? :P
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05:01.27ckknightno, Aahz
05:01.35Stavmaryeah i was just interested in what you had to say about the project, i find the most fascinating thing about the game itself is the addons
05:02.05ckknightStavmar, the fires of hatred fuel our desire. Without competition, without the need for superiority, Ace could not be where it is today
05:02.14ckknightAce is a rather reactionary movement
05:02.22Stavmarvery cool
05:02.24ckknightbut it seems to be working quite nicely
05:02.48Stavmarwell i am a loyal end user and will continue to be until the game crashes
05:02.54ckknight:-)
05:02.55ckknighthehe
05:03.04ThraeA.C.E. -- Amazingly Creative Engine
05:03.14AahzAce should be an acronym.... um... could stand for Atypical Coding Engine
05:03.22Kebinusanugh
05:03.25ckknightit used to be an acronym
05:03.32ckknightAce Coding Environment
05:03.36ckknightbut I don't like that
05:03.42ckknightand I think recursive acronyms are horrid
05:03.46Kebinusannice recursive acronymn
05:03.52ckknightso it's just Ace
05:03.56AahzHow can an the acronym be used in its self... is'nt that a 'nono'?
05:03.59ckknightAce is Ace is Ace
05:04.00Thraeckknight: But WINE Is Not An Emulator!
05:04.01ckknightit is nothing more
05:04.17ckknightThrae, and Gnu's Not Unix
05:05.07KarlThePaganI named the WSU networking lab - SANDS is Advanced Networking and Distributed Systems
05:05.20Thraeckknight: Contractions are cheating!
05:05.28KarlThePaganit's traditional to have a recursive algorithm in comp-sci terms
05:05.41KarlThePaganand it lets you cheat
05:07.18ThraeMerry Christmas for America!
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05:08.10ckknightclosing my laptop lid makes my computer go to sleep
05:08.22Thraeckknight: You can change that functionality under Power Management in Windows.
05:08.27ckknightMac.
05:08.37ckknight(new)
05:09.02Thraeckknight: Well then wherever the APCI control system. Your BIOS most likely supports it, you just need to find it.
05:09.11ag`_ckknight: The OS settings doesn't allow for closed lid operations
05:09.14ag`_afaik
05:09.23ckknightsrsly?
05:09.24ag`_you need a 3rd party application for that
05:09.27ThraeIf that's true, then that's stupid.
05:10.38ag`_actually this link mentions closed-lid
05:10.39ag`_http://www.apple.com/support/macbook/care/
05:10.44ag`_so I guess it is supported
05:11.06Thrae3rd Party Applications required...seems Apple went the way of hybrid BSD/proprietary so people could more easily add stuff they should have there in the first place...
05:11.27ThraeWell, I guess that's better then making you fudge around in Windows.
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05:15.49CIA-1703ckknight * r22088 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - fix issue where profiles would change to their lowercase non-localized version.
05:16.03ckknightag`, I don't get the link
05:16.10ckknighthow do I change it to not sleep?
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05:16.57CIA-1703sayclub * r22089 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
05:16.57CIA-17Babble-2.2:
05:16.57CIA-17-Update locals koKR(Babble-Spell-2.2)
05:19.30ag`ckknight: I think you need something called Sleepless
05:20.41CIA-1703ckknight * r22090 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - bugfix
05:23.27ag`anyway I have added a tablet and sorting for click2cast
05:23.31ag`and created a forum post
05:23.36ag`with screenies
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05:29.10ckknightcool
05:29.48ag`one thing I don't know though
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05:30.14ag`when c2c iterates through the db table containing the saved clicks
05:30.37ag`what prevents it from displaying a menu for the ["*"] entry?
05:30.41Dekunahappy holidays all
05:32.27Xogxogag`, my guess would be.. 'magic'.
05:36.06Xogxogag`, since you're sort of around.. where can I find some documentation on the whole 'unit groups' thing for agUF?
05:36.42XogxogTrying to figure out if there's any spiffy things I can do with it..
05:42.14ag`Xogxog: I will probably write some details later
05:42.26ag`but you can put anything in there really, seperated by commas
05:42.39ag`classes for example
05:42.54ag`PRIEST,WARRIOR,MAGE
05:42.58ag`is an example
05:45.08XogxogI was hoping I could group the target and ToT frames and such. Is it only for classes and the like?
05:47.45ag`yes
05:47.58CIA-1703sayclub * r22091 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-koKR.lua: Click2Cast - Update locals koKR
05:48.56XogxogFair enough.
05:49.17ag`gotta sleep, 7 AM
05:49.25ag`nn
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06:25.56Benumbedanyone around? =P
06:26.34hyperChipmunkno
06:26.50Benumbedbleh
06:27.24Benumbedyou wouldnt happen to know how when you do a hook, to do the original function + what you tell it to do in the hook would you?
06:28.00Benumbedits hooking it and only doing what I tell it to do after the hook, not doing the original function
06:28.17hyperChipmunkcall the original function at the start of the hook
06:28.27Benumbeddoh
06:29.27hyperChipmunkI'm a bit rusty, but I'm pretty sure all versions of acehook have an easy way to call the original function; .orig() probably
06:30.43Benumbedyeah just calling the original function makes wow freeze 5 secs then error in bugsack, stack overflow
06:31.10hyperChipmunkyea, that's because you hooked it
06:31.23hyperChipmunkif you call it normally, it gets hooked
06:31.30hyperChipmunkand goes into your function
06:31.37hyperChipmunkwhere it gets called...and hooked
06:31.41Benumbedohh I see what your saying, its repeating it self over and over
06:31.41hyperChipmunk...and goes into your function
06:31.53hyperChipmunkat which point, it gets called...and hooked again
06:32.02hyperChipmunkyep
06:32.19hyperChipmunkit gets stuck in that infinite loop and eventually bombs
06:32.50Benumbedk will look in api for acehook then
06:32.52nuOHEPself.hooks.<namehooked>(...)
06:33.19nuOHEPthats how you sjould call the original function
06:33.25nuOHEPshould*
06:33.50BenumbedWhen hooking, you should almost always call the original hook. This is done with
06:33.50Benumbedself.hooks["functionName"](...)
06:33.55Benumbed=x
06:34.25hyperChipmunkyea, normally you do it at the end
06:34.46hyperChipmunkbecause others might have need of the function
06:34.57hyperChipmunkso you do your stuff, and pass it on
06:35.12hyperChipmunkat which point, it may be hooked by another addon
06:35.37hyperChipmunkthat's why Ace provides an entire library to deal with the technique
06:39.08Benumbedwell its my own mod, just making modules to add things (can be disabled)
06:39.49Benumbedself.hooks.MS_playmusic();
06:40.09Benumbedwas correct way to make it do original hook
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06:51.01CIA-1703jayhawk * r22092 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc PetInfoFu-readme.txt PetInfoFu.lua):
06:51.02CIA-17FuBar_PetInfoFu:
06:51.02CIA-17- changes for Warlock
06:51.06Azurewrathckknight: you there? I had some major Client freezes with your ClearFont2 additions, reverted to 21700 for now.. just wanted to report
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07:15.38SapiensHmm.
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07:38.33ckknightAzurewrath, seriously?
07:38.35ckknighthrm
07:38.49Azurewrathckknight: jep, it was gone after reverting
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07:39.00ckknightfunny
07:39.07ckknightthat can be allayed.
07:39.41Azurewrath100% cpu load, client freezing for like ~10 seconds.. guess it has something to do with the dynamic addon font thingie you made
07:40.01Smeltnanyone have a .png of the wowace image?
07:40.30CIA-1703laotseu * r22093 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua: AllPlayed: Now display the location of toons
07:41.55ckknightAzurewrath, yea, I'll make it split across several OnUpdates
07:46.32SapiensHmm.
07:46.45SapiensDoes EnhancedColorPicker allow you to specify numerical values in the color wheel window?
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07:50.46xlviiis anyone else noticing large amounts of memory used since the patch? >_>
07:51.04SapiensNot since I converted over to using mostly Ace addons.
07:51.10xlviibut still..
07:51.16SapiensThen again my item database addon and Auctioneer are out of order.
07:51.20xlviiwith the addons i currently have, i had them before the patch
07:51.32xlviii used to only have about, 19mb of memory usage
07:51.39xlviinow mine is normally around 40mb+
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07:52.30SapiensI have around 55 addon folders not counting the Blizzard defaults and I launch at around 25-30mb.
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07:54.58nuOHEPSapiens, looking at the lua it has edit boxes for colors and alpha
07:55.14SapiensHotness.
07:55.17SapiensThankyou. :)
07:55.37SapiensI'm too lazy at this hour to install, load up to check, then remove if it doesn't do what I want. :P
07:55.38CIA-1703ckknight * r22094 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2 - for dynamic font setting, it now splits up across many OnUpdates.
07:55.45ckknightokay, Azurewrath
07:55.49ckknightwould you please test for me?
07:56.26SapiensGrr, I need longer descriptions.
07:56.36SapiensMrPlow sounds like AutoProfit in that it sells crap greys but I can't tell.
07:56.52SapiensThat or it's a UI mod, heh.
07:57.03ckknightMrPlow doesn't sell stuff
07:57.09ckknightit just moves things around in your bags
07:57.14SapiensAh.
07:57.20SapiensI need a replacement for AutoProfit.
07:57.30SapiensTrolling through WowAceUpdater descriptions atm.
07:57.43ckknightSe?or Plow no es macho, es solamente un gurracho
07:59.36ckknightbrb
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08:00.50Azurewrathckknight: gimme a sec
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08:08.29ckknighthey all
08:17.21SapiensHmm.
08:17.29SapiensFramesResized hasn't been updated since the patch it seems.
08:17.58SapiensNo, it has...
08:18.09SapiensSomething else must be breaking it.
08:18.59SapiensOdd.
08:19.05SapiensWorks for the quest frame but not tradeskills.
08:19.44Azurewrathckknight: mhm k, ~15min alterac zerg and it didn't appear, seems to be fixed
08:19.55ckknightdidn't appear?
08:20.05ckknightchange the font
08:20.09ckknightsee if it freezes on you
08:20.44Azurewrathlike 0.5secs or something, works fine
08:20.50ckknightalright then
08:20.51ckknighthooray
08:21.24Azurewrathhehe
08:24.28ckknightokay, back to using Colloquy
08:24.32ckknightgot a good style I like
08:24.48ckknightanyone know how to make it so I can put the tabs at the top instead of the buttom?
08:28.46XogxogButtom!
08:28.53ckknightbottom*
08:29.09XogxogHilarious. That just made my day.. what little's left of iit.
08:29.12Xogxog-
08:31.29Kaeltenmerry christmas guys :)
08:31.39ckknighthappy solstice, Kaelten
08:31.51ckknightoh man, funny thing happened at church
08:32.02ckknightmy dad mentioned that I got a new Apple laptop
08:32.11ckknightand this one guy got all zealous on me
08:32.28Kaeltenpro or against apple?
08:32.30ckknight"Yea, they recommended my daughter get a mac, but I thought it was a bad idea"
08:32.32XogxogPC zealous or Mac zealous?
08:32.35XogxogAh.
08:32.48ckknight"I didn't want her picking up any bad habits"
08:32.52Xogxoglol
08:32.56XogxogYou gotta be kidding. ;P
08:33.12SapiensMacs are notorious for porn.
08:33.23ckknightlol, Sapiens
08:33.26ckknightI'm not, Xogxog
08:33.36XogxogIf I heard people say something like that I'd punch 'em in the teeth. :o
08:33.53ckknightdon't be a zealot.
08:34.08XogxogJust 'cause I like hitting people I'm a zealot?
08:34.10Xogxog:/
08:34.20ckknight...
08:34.21XogxogThat hardly seems fair.
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08:44.40TrickyGrinchHum Bah!
08:44.40ckknighthehe, TrickyGrinch
08:44.58TrickyGrinchHave a good one Ckk ......merry new year...I am off to bed!
08:45.06ckknightcya later
08:48.06SapiensAnyone know if BanzaiAlert downloads BanzaiLib as an external or if they're both required?
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08:48.55SapiensAnswered my own question.
08:52.06ckknightanyone know if there's a way to make a popup from the command line in Mac OS X?
08:52.15ckknightsomething like xenity for gnome and such.
09:06.37KemayoHjalte: I'm around now!
09:10.28Kemayockknight: osascript -e 'tell application "Finder"' -e "activate" -e "display dialog \"hello\"" -e 'end tell'
09:11.12KemayoApplescript is very useful for gui automation type tasks, too.
09:11.14Kemayohttp://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/11/07/scripting_osx.html
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09:18.58ckknightyou're a pimp, Kemayo
09:19.06ckknightI'm playing with Smultron now as an editor
09:19.14ckknightwhat do you use?
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09:21.50abbat_wmorning
09:22.13ckknightmorning, abbat_w
09:23.02ckknightalso, is there some way to set a global keybinding to play/pause iTunes?
09:23.03abbat_wckk, it's you mod make map on bg with circles colored by class and group number?
09:23.13ckknightyes, abbat_w
09:23.28abbat_wthats damnd nice
09:23.35ckknight:-)
09:23.40ckknightefficient, too
09:23.42abbat_wtonight i understand this feature ;)
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09:32.21Kemayockknight: I've tended to use TextWrangler.
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09:32.56Tekkubwhat' the newest TBC TOC?
09:33.05Tekkub20300?
09:33.14Tekkub20003?
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09:35.59nevcairiel20003
09:39.01Elkanobtw: I heared that there is a new PTR, is that right and is there a change log?
09:39.24nevcairielthe 2.0.3 PTR
09:39.27abbat_wnew ptr?
09:39.29nevcairielits basicly beta changes
09:39.29abbat_wfor bc?
09:39.42nevcairielno bc content
09:39.49abbat_wah
09:39.49nevcairieljust the changes which made it in beta
09:40.00abbat_wbut first off i hope blizzard fix wall climbing
09:40.13abbat_wit's insane to plays on bg with cheaters ;(
09:41.30Fisker-err Tekkub ?
09:41.34Fisker-i thought it didn't change
09:41.41Fisker-only on major version
09:41.44Tekkubwell my addons are out of date
09:41.50CIA-1703elkano * r22095 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.lua:
09:41.50CIA-17FuBar_GuildFu
09:41.50CIA-17- one does not simply disable Roster-2.1 in OnDisable
09:41.50Tekkubso it had it
09:41.57CIA-1703elkano * r22096 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.lua:
09:41.57CIA-17FuBar_FriendsFu
09:41.57CIA-17- one does not simply disable Roster-2.1 in OnDisable
09:42.11Fisker-must be because 2.0.3 has some major changes as well then
09:42.12Fisker-:P
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09:42.57ElkanoI think there had been a few changes to there secure templates and thus they bumped the TOC
09:43.37abbat_wbtw, are secure templates paradigm better then old way?
09:44.01nevcairielif you know howto use them right, it saves you alot of work
09:44.17nevcairielif you dont, it will make you cry
09:44.23abbat_w:)
09:44.28abbat_wheh
09:44.43Nargiddleyyeah, takes alot of figuring out
09:45.01Nargiddleybut once you get them its mostly easier, some things take a bit more work
09:45.30nevcairielbut with 2.0.3 most requests have been covered as well
09:45.31nevcairiel:)
09:46.22markvhooray airport time in an hour
09:47.31abbat_wTo hot countries?
09:47.46markvno, but at least i'll be going someplace warmer than where i currently am
09:47.58abbat_wheh
09:48.11Silviu-hooray bus time in 30 mins ^^
09:48.12abbat_wNY weekends? Or by work?
09:48.15markvgoing back home for xmas, haven't been there in 4 years.
09:48.20abbat_wah
09:48.31abbat_wI forget about you xmas ;)
09:48.52Silviu-30h drive :/
09:48.57Silviu-Will be nuts
09:48.58markvi dunno, all i know is when i get there on the 27th i'm seeing the canucks vs calgary nhl game and who knows what else
09:49.04markvlol that sucks ass
09:49.12markvif i took the bus it would probably be that long
09:49.24Silviu-markv from where to where u go ?
09:49.27markvbut i'm flying back home first class and get to enjoy the comforts of th air canada lounge!
09:49.33markvgoing from winnipeg to vancouver.
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09:49.47abbat_wWe have xmas on 7 jan
09:49.53Silviu-i go from Romania to Germany :)
09:51.05markvi made sure i rencoded and copied over about 10 hours worth of tv shows to watch
09:55.39markvplus i think i have about 2 weeks worth of podcasts to listen to, so i should be good for the next 2 weeks!
09:56.05Kaeltenin search of the perfect editor
09:59.22CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22097 10Bartender3/locales/ (5 files): Bartender3: changed locale files to real UTF-8, we dont want the same fate as Babble
10:03.18nevcairielpoor asians
10:03.29nevcairielmost of their babble translations are totally messed up
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10:04.31nevcairielbabble-spell anyway, all other look good
10:06.48CIA-1703nevcairiel * r22098 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
10:06.48CIA-17Babble-2.2:
10:06.49CIA-17- Converted Babble-Spell-2.2 to a real UTF-8 file, wont bring back the lost translations, but probably preserve the koKR which looks in tact.
10:06.50markvhooray the presents are out!
10:07.34GngskLF1M need warrior to help set presents out
10:08.12nevcairielhehe
10:09.23markvcool they addeed in the wand of holiday cheer
10:09.41markvtoo bad it's on a 10 day duration
10:09.45KemayoI once picked up my SO from the airport holding a sign reading "LF1M [60+] Freeway".  >_>
10:09.50nevcairielmine isnt
10:09.55nevcairielat least it doesnt show
10:10.37nevcairielhaha
10:11.52KemayoNow, I need to work out which addon is causing this memory leak.
10:16.59Sun\Netherthe thing that makes my memory jump to 42mb usage
10:17.06Sun\Netherwhen i start with a 20mb one ? :p
10:17.21KemayoMine starts at 20-ish and is up to 60+ at the end of a session...
10:17.38Sun\Nethermy feelings tell me it's in the libs :)
10:17.58markvyeah mine gets up to about 50mb after a couple of hours.
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10:18.35Sun\Netheror maybe there is no automatic garbage checkup ?
10:18.41KemayoI think Clearfont is the old thing I installed recently.
10:18.44Kemayoonly
10:18.45Sun\Netheris it an automatic function in wow ?
10:18.54Sun\Netherwell i don't have clearfont :p
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10:20.41KemayoI guess I'll try disabling the recent Auctioneer beta.  Only other thing I can remember installing recently.
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10:22.06Kemayo(Though since I'm running an updater I guess it could be absolutely anything that's been updated in the last few days.)
10:22.41nevcairielonly the WAU or a more general updater?
10:23.48KemayoMy own version of WAU. :D
10:24.59KemayoAny addons out there that might be helpful for tracking this down?
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10:40.43Fisker-hmm
10:40.47Fisker-you to Kemayo ?
10:40.56Fisker-too*
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10:41.42KemayoMe too.
10:46.14Fisker-awesome
10:47.21KemayoI guess we could triangulate.  Rule out addons that aren't common to those of us experiencing the problem.
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10:49.23KemayoI've never had the patience for disabling things one by one.
10:50.11Fisker-same here :(
10:50.19Fisker-well i got clearfont2 as well :P
10:51.40Sun\Netheri dont have clearfont
10:52.01kebinusanwhats the prob?
10:52.18Sun\Netheri think there is no automatic garbage collection
10:52.26Sun\Netherthat's all
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10:52.30Fisker-we're getting 0wned by memory leaks
10:53.16kebinusanYeah Ive had a few problems with that
10:53.30Fisker-my addonlist: http://ace.pastey.net/3984
10:53.41Fisker-all make one and then let us do a diff on it
10:53.56Fisker-dir /b >> addons.txt in the addons folder via cmd
10:53.57kebinusanmine is only increasing at 1.5 kib idle atm though
10:55.45Sun\Netherhttp://sunofwisdom.net/addons.txt
10:56.33Fisker-gogo kebinusan and Kemayo
10:56.40Fisker-then we need someone to figure out how to do a diff :P
10:56.44Kemayohttp://ace.pastey.net/3985
10:57.01Sun\Nethermaybe it's fubar performance fu
10:57.03Sun\Netherhahaha
10:57.07Sun\Netherthat would be funny
10:57.16Fisker-especially if it's only a display problem
10:57.36Kemayo:D
10:57.49Sun\Netheri think it's a garbage collection problem, no more automatic
10:58.31Sun\Netherwas it ever automatic :)
10:58.35Sun\Netherthat's the question
11:00.38kebinusanmy addons folder has way too many addons I dont have loaded
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11:04.23kebinusanyou can click on performance fu to force a gc
11:06.15KemayoHere's what's shared between the three of us: http://ace.pastey.net/3986
11:07.11Elkanowhat do you all have your UI memory set to?
11:07.21Fisker-i think we can rule out the libs to start with?
11:07.41Elkanoiirc setting it to 0 will prevent the GC that occures when hitting the limit ^^
11:07.51Fisker-not 0 :)
11:07.55Fisker-55 or 60 i think
11:08.11KemayoMine's set to 64.
11:08.27Fisker-was set to 60
11:08.27[Ammo]you can not rule out the libs
11:08.31KemayoCan't necessarily rule out a lib -- one could be holding on to old table references.
11:08.31Elkanowell I used to get a GC when the set limit is hit
11:08.32Fisker-but i'm setting it to 40
11:08.40Fisker-no [Ammo] but as a start point
11:08.52Fisker-The libs aren't updated that much
11:08.57Fisker-although babble has been updated a lot recently
11:09.17Elkanowell, babble is only data put into an AceLocale
11:09.49nevcairielis parserlib behaving good again?
11:09.57Elkanobut for me, I get larger mem increase during fights so parserlib & co could be still having issues
11:10.53Fisker-mine is around 2kiB when dead
11:11.31Elkanocould also be sth wrt SEE
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11:12.24Fisker-50kiB/s in combat
11:12.27Fisker-82
11:12.32Fisker-jumping a lot :o
11:13.08Fisker-now 12kiB/s
11:13.19KemayoHere's the list with everything that's been updated since 12/22 highlighted: http://ace.pastey.net/3987
11:13.26nevcairieli have SEE as well
11:13.31nevcairieland no problems
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11:16.45kebinusanMy combat doesnt seem that much higher, at least when its with a lil wolf
11:17.04Kemayokebinusan: You using MSBT as well?
11:17.29kebinusanyes
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11:17.41kebinusanhowever something I just enabled is annoying the hell out of me
11:18.34hanzzonhi, when using the standalone ace2 and ace, should I delete the "libs" dir in all ace compatible addons? saw that as a note here and did not know about it? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5442-EQCompare.html
11:18.53kebinusanimproved RWF enables nameplates over mobs whenever you enter combat for some reason
11:19.09Gngskautomaton does that, not iRWF
11:19.34kebinusanhmm ok maybe Im mistaken
11:19.40kebinusanis that a 'feature' in automation?
11:19.46Gngskyes
11:20.06Gngsk/auto plates
11:20.29kebinusanguess I enabled more than I thought
11:20.41kebinusanI should really read all the features before I download mods
11:20.41Kemayohanzzon: You can delete the Ace2-related folders from within the libs directories.
11:20.48kebinusanthat thing annoyed me so much
11:21.06hanzzonKemayo; ok, but is there any benefit seen in doing that?
11:21.40neeneeMerry Christmas one and all :)
11:21.42KemayoThere's a slight benefit when you start the game -- less stuff gets loaded.  Once things are running you won't see much difference, though.
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11:21.46Kaeltenello :)
11:22.00hanzzonKemayo; thnx
11:22.02nevcairielmorning Kaelten
11:22.18Kaeltennevcairiel: :) I'be been awake since 2:30 so
11:22.44nevcairielheh
11:22.50kebinusantry disabling roster and/or parserlib see if that makes your increasing rate behave
11:22.53nevcairieli just woke up two hours ago
11:23.06nevcairieltimezones ftl
11:23.16Kaeltenhehe
11:25.06kebinusanKemayo: why does your common list have compost, wasnt that depreciated?
11:25.12Kaeltenhow bad is it that its 5 am on xmas morning and I just commited some code for my job?
11:25.46kebinusanKaelten: that depends, if the commit message was in rhyme its ok
11:25.58Kaeltenkebinusan: damn, I guess I'm not ok
11:26.23nevcairiellol
11:27.34Kaeltenanyone actually playing around with the new KC_Items yet?
11:27.38kebinusanI was sleepy earlier then I realized I was listening to aqualung and coldplay., as soon a switched to something a bit more up tempo it woke me up
11:27.55Kaeltenlol
11:27.58KaeltenI got Ra playing atm
11:28.40kebinusanGnarls Barkley here
11:29.10Kaeltenwhat kinda music is that?
11:30.35Kemayokebinusan: I haven't cleaned out the libraries in a while...
11:30.50Kaeltenok, anyone up to thought?
11:30.55ZealotOnAStickHeya Kaelten
11:31.06ZealotOnAStickIs the new KCI still just on branches?
11:31.09kebinusanhmm Im not sure how I would describe it
11:31.11KaeltenZealotOnAStick: yep
11:31.27ZealotOnAStickAlso, what sort of response time can usually be expected on SVN access requests?
11:31.28Kaeltenok, I'm going to subdivide data into strings.
11:31.41KaeltenZealotOnAStick: depends but right now should be fairly quick
11:32.10KaeltenI'm looking at a data set of ~7k items, I'm thinking 50 strings should be enough to store them all in in a timely fashion
11:32.16kebinusanI think I have ludwig loaded but I never link crap and I always just end up alt tabbing and looking items up on other sites
11:32.52Kaeltenis auctioneer still broken?
11:33.02nevcairieli thought the alpha was working
11:33.06nevcairielbut havent tried it
11:33.16ZealotOnAStickit's to wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com correct?
11:33.22KaeltenZealotOnAStick: ya
11:33.31Kaeltenoh you mean access requests?
11:33.31ZealotOnAStickThe last dev alpha I downloaded about a week and a half ago is somewhat working.
11:33.42KaeltenZealotOnAStick: ewe you use aucitoneer?
11:33.43Kaeltenlol
11:33.47ZealotOnAStickdid I send to the wrong address?
11:34.00Kaeltenno I just don't think I've processed em  yet
11:34.02Kaeltenlet me lookie
11:34.19ZealotOnAStickI investigate a lot of mods that I know my guildmates look for.
11:34.30ZealotOnAStickand I was curious to see what this "bottomscan" was about.
11:34.46Kaeltenbottomscan?
11:35.15nevcairielsee? go try auctioneer to find out :D
11:35.34ZealotOnAStickThere's a new pane it sticks under the auction house labelled "BottomScan" . . .
11:35.49kebinusanKaelten: any chance of getting a plow button added back into onebag/bank
11:36.05ZealotOnAStickI may need to get a newer alpha, I don't think the version I had did -anything- but I've read something about it supposedly being there to point out particularly good deals or something.  I'm not clear on that.
11:36.52nevcairiel1234 beta looks the latest revision
11:36.58nevcairiel1243*
11:37.13hanzzonyes, that is what btmscan is for "Notes: Allows you to monitor new auctions for bargains."
11:37.27kebinusanAuctions are going to be annoying when TBC goes live, I dont think people will be going back to azeroth quite as frequently to check the AH
11:37.53nevcairielyou can get to the major cities pretty fast from Shattrath
11:37.57nevcairielits one mouse click away
11:37.58ZealotOnAStick"BottomScanner allows searching and analysis of the auction contents for specific good buys.  When it identifies something that is a 'good buy' according to the rules you set, it will alert you and give you the choice to buy the item."
11:38.17KemayoIt also increases your memory usage by something like 10MiB.
11:38.26ZealotOnAStickI thought they were putting AHs in Shattrath?
11:38.34nevcairielthey didnt yet
11:38.42nevcairieland i havent seen empty buildings either
11:39.00kebinusanyeah you have easy access via shatt, but in effect they are instancing the auction houses in azeroth for performance reasons
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11:39.25kebinusanI dunno Id much prefer they toss an auction instance up in all major cities or something... you know something like the deeprun tram
11:39.36ZealotOnAStickDaemona, ever get a working import?
11:39.47nevcairielhrm
11:39.52Daemonasorry just got up. gonna check my mail :)
11:39.56nevcairielauction houses arent instanced on beta yet tho
11:40.10nevcairielat least last time i checked
11:40.15Daemona*looks at clock* lunch time again :/
11:40.21Gnarfoz<Kemayo> It also increases your memory usage by something like 10MiB. <-- so? for the functionality I get, that's a good tradeoff ^^
11:40.29Kaeltenkebinusan: it should have a plow button under the menu
11:40.36kebinusannevcairiel: I meant effectively instanced, they are only available in the azeroth contient
11:40.42nevcairielah.
11:40.53KemayoYeah, it just kinda bugs me.
11:41.03Gnarfozis there a way to determine if the player is currently a ghost?
11:41.11nevcairielUnitIsGhost?
11:41.24Gnarfozgonna have to try that
11:41.39Gnarfozannoys the hell out of me that FinderReminder's popup pops up when I die
11:41.40nevcairielUnitIsGhost("player")
11:41.45Gnarfozinstead of only when I resurrect
11:41.54Gnarfozthanks :)
11:41.55kebinusanhmm Kaelten Im not seeing one, I just switched back from trying vbagnon for a couple weeks lemme make sure I have both from the svn
11:42.12Kaeltenkebinusan: ya its there
11:42.26nevcairielkebinusan: but isnt Azeroth split onto two "instances" already? eastern kingdoms and kalimdor?
11:42.52Gnarfozit is
11:43.13KaeltenZealotOnAStick: password sent
11:43.14Gnarfozthey run on different servers, even (quite noticable when one goes down and the other does not :D)
11:43.28|Pixel|and outland will be a third
11:43.32Gnarfozindeed
11:43.34Gnarfozinstance 530
11:43.39abbat_wheh, nuce if a third
11:43.48Gnarfozcompared to 0 for kalimdor, 1 for eastern kingdoms
11:44.00abbat_wor we have 'world server down' after bc release ;)
11:44.10Gnarfozwe'll see all kinds of stuff, I guess ^^
11:44.14KaeltenGnarfoz: just an example about auciton data though KC_Item's auction data is ~400kb of memory per realm/faction combo
11:44.17Gnarfozlike overloaded acc management pages :D
11:44.21kebinusanyeah outland is its own server as well, except there is no auction house or trainers which is kind of annoying
11:44.24Daemonaif they dont have some kind of bottle-neck event... that will be what happens i guess
11:44.27|Pixel|Gnarfoz: well
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11:44.41|Pixel|the AMP is hopefully fixed :P
11:44.41ZealotOnAStickGot it, thanks Kaelten
11:44.53|Pixel|three weeks before the BC release, that's great ^_^
11:45.03Gnarfozfixed, yes
11:45.06ZealotOnAStickKaelten: in your opinion, is my posting a branch of LogFu working under 2.0 acceptable?
11:45.11abbat_wNo ah on outlands?
11:45.27Daemonaabbat_w yes no AH and NO class trainers
11:45.29Gnarfozbut will it be stable enough for the onslaught that will be millions of BC buyers? :D
11:45.35abbat_wPfff....
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11:45.39|Pixel|Gnarfoz: there was a problem with the authentification page
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11:45.49KaeltenZealotOnAStick: is the original author still active?
11:45.49|Pixel|I actually spent the christmas eve fixing it :P
11:45.51DhragaMerry X-Mas all
11:46.20Gnarfozdidn't know about that, I'm just guessing at the sheer number of people who will use it
11:46.23ZealotOnAStickNot as far as i can tell.  I've attempted to contact him (as has Rabbit on GroupFu).  
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11:46.32kebinusanhmm Kaelten weird OneBag ver 2.0.19304 and MrPlow r21399 I dont seem to have the button
11:46.33|Pixel|hehe
11:46.49Kaeltenkebinusan: let me update too and try
11:46.50|Pixel|well, before, the auth page wasn't able to handle the load of more than 6000 people trying to auth simultaneously
11:47.06DhragaCartograph Error : http://pastey.net/3988
11:47.09Gnarfozwhich is a lot, already
11:47.10Gnarfoz:D
11:47.16|Pixel|hehe
11:47.33|Pixel|well, now, I have like, increased that number by times 1000
11:47.48Gnarfozthat sounds good :>
11:47.56Gnarfozhmmm I love my new keyboard :D
11:48.07|Pixel|indeed, especially that the same auth code is used into the account upgrade page :D
11:48.09ZealotOnAStickhis wowinterface portal also doesn't show any activity since October.
11:48.26KaeltenZealotOnAStick: whats his name?
11:48.33nevcairiel|Pixel| do you know if it will be possible to continue to use the closed beta client?
11:48.43ZealotOnAStick"Etten"
11:48.45|Pixel|we have no idea
11:49.15nevcairieli dont want to install my german copy again to install the german expansion :ugly:
11:49.17|Pixel|but there is a high probability that it won't be the case
11:49.18Ordogim still using the wow closed beta client
11:49.21Gnarfozshould work? it's the same, basically, is it not?
11:49.22Ordogpatched all the way up
11:49.50Gnarfoznevcairiel: before you go through that agony, I'd recommend getting the 10-day trial client and patching that one up instead
11:49.54Gnarfozgerman client ftl
11:50.14ZealotOnAStickKaelten: seperate topic - just exported the Ace2 branch of KC_Items, giving it a try on my AH mule.
11:50.19Ordogthe german client can now be found in the comedy section of any store
11:50.29abbat_wHehe, are germal client have german emotes? Or it's english?
11:50.31nevcairieli have the english client and all, but i am not sure that there will be a enGB BC client for download in time
11:50.40Ordogthe translated EVERYTHING
11:50.46abbat_w;)
11:50.47Ordogeven "undercity"
11:50.49|Pixel|Ordog: same for french
11:50.54GnarfozDie Unterstadt <3
11:50.55Ordogso hillarious
11:50.55Gnarfoz:\
11:50.56abbat_wAhah ;)
11:50.59Gnarfozthe best part is
11:51.04KaeltenZealotOnAStick: k, right now all it does is gather data I'm working on the data display stuff now.
11:51.05abbat_wDie Unterstadt == Undercity? :)
11:51.06Gnarfozthey even include the old names in parentheses xD
11:51.06nevcairielIronforge -> Eisen Schmiede
11:51.10Gnarfozabbat_w: yes xD
11:51.15abbat_wAhah, lol ;)
11:51.17|Pixel|the french translation for Undercity or Thunder Bluff or even Razorgore are just stupid
11:51.17Kaeltenkebinusan: :( its working for me
11:51.20nevcairielGnarfoz: thats only temporary to get people to adapt
11:51.26Ordogdunno if they really renamed Thrall
11:51.30Elkanonevcairiel, I hope so since I still don't know if I'll get a CE and if I get one if it will be deDE or enGB :/
11:51.32abbat_wIt's must be fun to play with german voices and names ;))
11:51.39Ordogmust be sklave (slave) now
11:51.43abbat_wDie Unterstadt ;))))
11:51.43|Pixel|it's been a while since I switchedback to the english client :P
11:51.48Gnarfoznevcairiel: yes, figures. but it looks a bit like they are not sure enough of themselves to just rename the cities
11:51.54Elkanobut being able to play using TBC beta would be even better :)
11:52.03Gnarfozanyway, enGB client > deDE
11:52.07|Pixel|FYI, "Undercity" is "Fossoyeuse" in french
11:52.12nevcairiellol
11:52.13Gnarfoz|Pixel|: o_O
11:52.17|Pixel|which is... err.... welll
11:52.29nevcairielprobably a direct translation
11:52.30|Pixel|I really have no idea what there were thinking about
11:52.31nevcairiellike the german oens :D
11:52.33|Pixel|not at all
11:52.42Ordogpeople shall shout "WTB port to US" in german now Oo
11:52.48|Pixel|a "Fossoyeur" is a guy who digs tombs
11:52.57|Pixel|so "Fossoyeuse" is the feminine of it
11:53.01ZealotOnAStickKaelten: the Scan/Targets box to the right - what happens to it if I dressing room an item from AH?
11:53.04neeneecool
11:53.04Mikmarip james brown
11:53.08neeneeFemale grave digger ;)
11:53.18neeneekinky
11:53.26nevcairiellol
11:53.33Gnarfozweird, at least
11:53.51abbat_wHeh
11:53.51phreakyIs there a like %-something that is location .. like %t is target
11:53.52Gnarfozif (not UnitIsGhost("player")) then ...   <-- should do the following stuff only if I'm not a ghost, right?
11:54.09abbat_wBut blood elves in french client must have very sexy voices ;)
11:54.26|Pixel|hahahahaha :D
11:54.33abbat_w'Je m'apelle Aladriel' ;)
11:54.50abbat_wor something like ;)
11:55.07Gnarfoz<abbat_w> Hehe, are germal client have german emotes? Or it's english? <-- all german :|
11:55.08|Pixel|two p for appelle, but it's that :)
11:55.17kebinusanGnarfoz: yea you may want UnitIsDeadOrGhost though depending on what you are trying to do
11:55.21Gnarfozsome are even (still, after two years) translated wrong
11:56.45Gnarfozkebinusan: FinderReminder checks what I'm currently tracking on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, PLAYER_ALIVE and PLAYER_UNGHOST... because PLAYER_ALIVE also fires when I release my spirit from my corpse (after that, I'm still not alive, but a ghost), the popup of FinderReminder pops up then, which does not work at all because I'm dead ^^)
11:57.52Gnarfozso actually, UnitIsDeadOrGhost might be even better :)
11:58.23Ordogwhats the ZeppelinMaster Addon for Fubar called?
11:58.57KaeltenZealotOnAStick: good question hadn't thought about that at all
11:59.58phreakyAny developer of dev/null here?
12:00.01ZealotOnAStickok, what happens is the dressing room pop-out covers the scan/target box.
12:00.08ZealotOnAStick(just checked)
12:00.23Kaeltenand then when you close it the scan button should still be fine
12:00.24Kaelten?
12:00.25Kaeltenright?
12:00.29CIA-1703neriak * r22099 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_Clicks.lua):
12:00.29CIA-17Fence:
12:00.29CIA-17- simplified item search in Clicks module. it's now way faster and it also should find every auctioned item.
12:00.31ZealotOnAStickIt's still there, yes.
12:00.54KaeltenZealotOnAStick: any thoughts on removing it from the frame like I did there?
12:00.57Gnarfoz~seen tem
12:01.13purltem <n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 21h 14m 53s ago, saying: '1x[asston]'.
12:01.13ZealotOnAStickI can see people getting confused at "losing" the frame under the dressing room.
12:01.54ZealotOnAStickNot really sure what else to suggest, perhaps having the frame under the AH . . . but I'm not overly happy with how that'd work.
12:02.00kebinusanbleh class leader sent me a stack of elixirs of shadow power as a gift... and I didnt get him anything
12:02.10KaeltenZealotOnAStick: well I could move it to be under the frame
12:02.21axxokebinusan: send the same ones back
12:02.27ZealotOnAStickI ran a scan . . . I can reload or log out and check SV size . . . anything else I can test on what there is to it currently?
12:02.32kebinusanaxxo:  lol yeah I thought about doing that
12:02.56kebinusanI think I'll just send him a lumpof coal and tell him he was bad this year
12:03.19ZealotOnAStick1 single blackhand horde scan (at admittedly perhaps not the best timing for auction volume) results in a 95k SV file.
12:03.49ZealotOnAStickIs it tracking sellvalues yet?
12:03.54KaeltenZealotOnAStick: yes
12:04.09ZealotOnAStickok, I didn't think to visit a vendor on my mule.
12:04.22Kaeltenya I'm actually tweaking support for that right now though
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12:07.00CIA-1703kaelten 07Ace2 * r22100 10KC_Items/KC_Items/SellValues/SellValues.lua:
12:07.00CIA-17KC_Items (Ace 2) -
12:07.00CIA-17- Implemented bucketed storage to help maintain speedy memory access.
12:07.00Mileshmm... AceDB + units = { 'target', 'focus', 'player', 'party1', 'party2', 'party3', 'party4' }, = trouble
12:07.34Milesregister that as default and removed elements gets inserted again
12:07.36KaeltenZealotOnAStick: ok the data gathering on that one is updated.
12:07.42ZealotOnAStickhrm, how so?  with mECB? (which I love, BTW, and why isn't it on the SVN?)
12:08.45Milesit's going to be integrated... no eta
12:08.55Ordogcould somebody be tempted to make an ace2 port of ZeppelinMaster?
12:08.58ZealotOnAStickoh, good then.  That's better.
12:10.14Gnarfozmecb rocks. I even modified mine for positioning and size streamlining ^^
12:10.29abbat_wmecb?
12:10.31kebinusanyeah I love mecb
12:10.39Gnarfozmiles' enemy castbar for ag_UF
12:10.43abbat_wah
12:10.43Milespvp i win thing ^^
12:10.49abbat_wi use antagonist
12:10.59kebinusanI like it for the new pve cast bars
12:11.07Gnarfozyes, very much :D
12:11.08abbat_wand btw oCB have own bar for reflect cast bar
12:11.24Gnarfozyeah, thats the reason haste pulled his addons from the SVN, though :p
12:11.38Gnarfozbecause it was not him who implemented that :\
12:11.39ZealotOnAStickwhile it's occasionally handy for PvP, I've loved it for PvE more personally.
12:11.55abbat_wBut with Antagonst you can define different places for casts, cooldowns and buffs
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12:12.01abbat_wVery usefull in PvP
12:12.24Gnarfozit's very nice in PvE to finally see everything a mob casts, especially those nasty 10min duration heavy debuffs like -10% hit or something. makes it easier to interrupt the right spell ^^
12:12.33Milesheh, mecb is just a mini mod for your unitframes, when that unit casts stuff, you see it
12:12.35CIA-1703elkano * r22101 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/Trainer.lua:
12:12.35CIA-17FuBar_TrainerFu
12:12.35CIA-17- made sure that trainer.name and trainer.type are strings
12:12.42abbat_wbtw
12:13.18abbat_wMage can reduce cast time for fireball by .5 sec with talents. Are blizzard native enemy cast bar know about target talent spec?
12:13.33Milesyea
12:13.53abbat_wheh
12:14.01Milesit sends an absolute end time for spell cast
12:14.04abbat_wnice and not nice ;(
12:14.32Milesi love it when my pet manages to put a +3.0s on another hunter's aimed shot ^^
12:14.52Gnarfozyay, normalized attack speed for all pets, Miles :D
12:14.52Milesthe new API + pvp = godmode
12:15.11Milesno wai, bt + frenzy = win
12:15.39abbat_wHmm.. i just look, antagonist uses hardcoded constants for cast spell durations
12:15.43Miles0.8s talented, 0.64 after first crit
12:15.48Mileslol nubs
12:16.00Milestoo lazy to convert to the new api I guess
12:16.07abbat_wyep ;)
12:16.16Grollstop coding damnit.. it's x-mas :P
12:16.19Grollor it was for some
12:16.33axxoGroll: your on irc to nub
12:16.45Grollya on irc.. but i'm drinking cider :P
12:16.59Grollon my way to drunkedness :P
12:17.22abbat_wbut in pvp i don't need to see cast time. just which spell target cast and maybe cooldowns (like divine shield, vanish etc)
12:18.03abbat_winformation which ward i must use for protect self i see on visual cast detail ;)
12:18.19Milesmaybe. But it's statisfying to see the target getting +duration because you pwn them :p
12:18.49abbat_wYes. And it's more accurate i think
12:18.50Milesor silencing a mage on 1s left of a pyroblast
12:19.33abbat_wOn my server we have some lag and spellinterrupt worked if you use cs in 1.5 - 2 sec before spellcaster finish spell
12:19.40MilesoO
12:19.54ZealotOnAStickI'm pretty sure Antagonist being rewritten for the new spellcasting events is planned, just hasn't been done/finished yet.
12:19.56ZealotOnAStickanyway . . .
12:20.04abbat_wOr cs hit caster after spell land you ;)
12:20.42Milesdamn... so you guys are walking punchbags in the cross realm bg's?
12:20.55Mikmadid everyone get the gifts in ironforge? :)
12:21.08Gngskthey the same as last year?
12:21.10abbat_wnot on time
12:21.12Gngskthose pets
12:21.22abbat_wnot all time. sometimes all work ok
12:21.39abbat_wmasks, pets and costumes
12:21.50Grinehow does the /use command work?
12:22.27abbat_wGrine, this command use item in inventory slot. For example /use 13 - will use item in upper trinket slot
12:22.46Grinecan I use stuff from bags too?
12:23.25kebinusanIts abit annoying that putting /use in a macro though doesnt use the item if its cooling down.. so you end up creating another button or just turrning off all error messages
12:23.39kebinusangrine yes, like  /use [target=player] heavy runecloth bandage
12:23.48kebinusanwill always bandage yourself
12:24.13abbat_wyeh. you can use item-by-name with /use
12:24.14Grinekebinusan, can I get it to use item by bag slut? like usecontaineritem did?
12:24.29kebinusanyes  /use bagid slotid
12:24.32kebinusanshould work
12:24.58Fisker-as far as i know /use itemname works too right?
12:25.03Fisker-bleh
12:25.04kebinusanyes
12:25.06Grinethanks kebinusan :)
12:25.12Fisker-my attentionspan is limited i see
12:25.25Grineperfect combo with Kennel :P
12:25.44abbat_w/use <itemname>, /use <slot>, /use <bagid> <bagslot>
12:25.49abbat_wthis is syntax
12:25.54kebinusanI wish you could turn off the annoying warlock pet vocals
12:26.06abbat_wHere is some info about macros: http://www.wowwiki.com/Most_Used_Macros#2.0_Macro_Guide
12:26.30Grinethanks abbat_w, sorry for being annoying...
12:28.55kebinusanI like the new macro system I really just wish wish there was a [cooldown] function or something
12:29.27Gngskwon't happen
12:29.50kebinusanwell its stupid that it tries to use activated items that are cooling down
12:30.33Gnarfozstill, that kind of is exactly one of the things they wanted to disable
12:30.34Gnarfoz:D
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12:30.46kebinusanEh not exactly
12:30.59kebinusanIt doesnt change the function in anyway
12:31.38kebinusanYou can do it right now with just /use 13  /cast whatever
12:31.52kebinusanbut if the item in 13 is cooling down then you get annoying vocal error messages
12:31.53abbat_w/stopcasting before /use ;)
12:31.56kebinusanbut it still works
12:32.22abbat_wyep
12:32.37abbat_wBtw
12:32.37Gnarfozyeah but... would it work with two abilites? instead of item+ability
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12:33.00abbat_wit you make macro like /cast [target=focus,harm] Polymorh; Polymorh
12:33.01kebinusanyes if the ability doesnt use the GCD
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12:33.29abbat_wAnd you have focus which are out of range for polymorph, macro just stopped and you don't poly current target ;(
12:33.38KaeltenI've been trying to decide what to do
12:33.51Kaeltena guy sent me code a while back to incorporate OneBag with Khaos
12:34.30abbat_wGnarfoz, yes. You can use as many /use as you need in macro (if i correct understand you question)
12:34.35NickenyfikenKhaos hmm
12:34.43Fisker-isn't khaos some icky cosmos thing  you don't like? :P
12:34.52kebinusanwtf does khaos do
12:35.06KaeltenI'm not sure, I know it has something to dow ith cosomos
12:35.16Kaeltenand rather it integrates OneView instead of the OneViewButton for fubar
12:35.21NickenyfikenKaelten: so onebag config stuff will show up in khaos?
12:35.24nevcairieli think khaos is a addon management thing
12:35.29KaeltenNickenyfiken: I think so
12:35.31Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Khaos
12:35.36Nickenyfiken"Khaos is a universal configuration registration system. It allows you to create configurations for addons or addon-groups and cluster them together."
12:35.52NickenyfikenAce should have something similar
12:35.56Nickenyfikenthat would be sweet
12:36.07nevcairieljup
12:36.10nevcairielwith a nice gui
12:37.01MikmaArkInventory is nice
12:37.02kebinusanI guess I really dont see the use of that
12:37.18KaeltenMikma: whats the deal with it I know its been a buzz lately
12:37.25ElkanoNickenyfiken, hope you don't mind the fix I just commited for NPCs with gothip buth with no 2nd line in NPC tooltip
12:37.31Fisker-i like the whole commands ace is using
12:37.33Gnarfozabbat_w: don't think so... I'd very much like a macro that does Heroic Strike whenever Bloodthirst is on cooldown (to cut down on buttons used), but I think that's not possible anymore
12:37.38MikmaKaelten: it can sort items in different slots, and it COLORS THE RARITY! YAY!
12:37.53Kaeltenum, onebag colors rarity
12:38.03kebinusanyea
12:38.07Mikmayes but it does not sort them hehe
12:38.17Kaeltenlol, I've been using MrPlow for that
12:38.18abbat_wGnarfoz, macro stop if first condition can't be processed (cooldowns, out of range or something else)
12:38.31MikmaKaelten: i'll show you a SS soon
12:38.46abbat_wMaybe [cooldown] can help but i don't know how to use it
12:38.59nuOHEPGnarfoz, you can do smth like /castsequence reset=<btcd> Bloodthirst, Heroic, Heroic, Heroic, Heroic, Heroic
12:39.00Fisker-i think arkinventory is cool too
12:39.05kebinusanoh its like eng inventory
12:39.32MikmaKaelten: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3695.msg69070#msg69070
12:39.33Fisker-but i'd like it to finish it's sorting better
12:39.33GnarfoznuOHEP: yes, but that won't work if I mash the button
12:39.33Gnarfozwhich I will xD
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12:39.33nuOHEPit will
12:39.39nuOHEPjust insert more Heroics in there
12:39.43nuOHEP:D
12:39.47Gnarfozhrm.
12:39.50Gnarfozgotta try that
12:39.51NickenyfikenElkano: No not at all. Thank you for fixing it :-)
12:39.52kebinusannuOHEP:   just use castrandom instead of castsequence
12:39.55Gnarfozbecause there's several posts on the UI forum saying it won't
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12:40.10kebinusancastrandom doesnt break when an ability is cooling down it just moves to the next I believe
12:40.12Kaeltenhrm neat
12:40.14Gnarfoznah, castrandom does not guarantee that one of either spells goes off
12:40.32Fisker-/castrandom does what it says :P
12:40.36Gnarfozindeed
12:40.37Gnarfoz:)
12:41.13MikmaKaelten: was the neat for the screenshots or something else? :)
12:41.17Elkanobtw: got my note on the fishing trainer in BootyBay that isn't marked?
12:41.27KaeltenMikma: the screenshot, I'm not sure I like the layout though
12:41.31Kaeltenbut its neat
12:41.34Nickenyfikenhehe right now i use OneBag/Bank/View + Sanity2 + ArkInventory and i like them all but and they are all usefull but in different ways
12:41.44MikmaKaelten: it can be changes a bit, not much but atleast the rows
12:41.49Elkanoand pls find the time to reorder your DB table to share trainrs and skills between chars ^^
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12:42.19MikmaKaelten: it is neat and it's Ace2 :)
12:42.27KaeltenMikma: cool, so is OneBag :P
12:42.29Elkanothe one in BB is called "Superior Fisherman" which isn't cached by TrainerNotes
12:42.46MikmaKaelten: yes but it needs to get that sort of sorting :)
12:42.46KaeltenNickenyfiken: lol, you REALLY got your inventory under controll
12:42.50MikmaKaelten: TODO TODO!
12:43.02abbat_w=)
12:43.03Kaeltenactually I have designs for a OneBag3 in the back of my mind
12:43.07Mikma:D
12:43.24Kaeltenbut its a little ways down the list
12:43.27Kaeltengot KCI1.0
12:43.28Milesgiev enginventory v2
12:43.36ElkanoI don't use any bagmods :/
12:43.42Milesthe default bags are horrible
12:43.42kebinusanIsnt Ark Inventory basically enginventory?
12:43.44KaeltenI really want to redo the whole web site
12:44.16abbat_wI try ArkInventory but don't understand this mod. Don't sure what i need bagmods
12:44.18MikmaMiles: use ArkInventory :)
12:44.20NickenyfikenElkano: yup i got that note and the whole note module need a rewrite. You mean you want to have the same list of trainers/skills for all your chars?
12:44.21kebinusanI tried vbagnon but I wasnt sure what exactly its sorting was useful for
12:44.37Mileslol @ google
12:44.37MilesDid you mean: "orainventory" wow
12:44.41NickenyfikenKaelten: yeah :-P
12:44.48MikmaMiles: haha
12:44.49Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3695.msg69070#msg69070
12:44.59kebinusanhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6488-ArkInventory.html
12:45.00MikmaMiles: there's screenshots and the addon can be gotten from svn
12:45.15Milesooh shiny
12:45.43Elkanowell, atm it stores a list of all skills a trainer can teach per char and it stores all trainers per char. So if my leatherworker finds an alchemy trainer, my alchi won't benefit of the knowledge atm
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12:46.16Gnarfoz<Miles> giev enginventory v2 <-- basically ArkInventory is that, Arkanyero is the maintainer of EngInventory
12:47.06Milesugh
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12:47.33Milespeople that embed 8 Ace2 libs should just external the whole thing and load the modules in the toc
12:48.04Elkanoso why not give a browser for all trainer learned skills in game (since you have the data anyways), trainers by class/profession and sth like the current dispaly with what can be learnd atm/next 2 levels/next 5 or 10? skill points
12:48.50NickenyfikenElkano: ah yeah. I was thinking of makeing a rewrite that share the same DB for all chars but it only loads the trainers/skills that the character is interested in. So your Mage tailor/enchanter will load mage, tailoring and enchanting but no other trainers. Would that be better?
12:49.22Elkanowon't work since the full DB is the loaded anyways
12:50.01kebinusanNickenyfiken: get a chance to look at that demon trainer thing I posted about?
12:50.13Nickenyfikenhmm hmm yeah
12:50.33Elkanobut you could have settings stored per char which trainers to show as notes and have the tooltip only show known profession and usefull trainers
12:50.59Elkanoand add sth to brows the whole list of trainers/skills
12:51.15KaeltenJames brown died :(
12:51.21kebinusanyeah  /mourn
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12:51.34Elkanosince trainers will learn you everything up to level/skill x it shouldn't be that bad to handle
12:51.37nahkissaye, /kneel /mourn
12:51.44NickenyfikenElkano: yup, i think i made it so the information is stored for each character to have a smaller DB loaded
12:51.45ElkanoKaelten: yes :(
12:52.47Nickenyfikenkebinusan: hmm the dreadlord thing?
12:52.53kebinusanfelguard yea
12:53.03Nickenyfikenah yeah
12:53.16kebinusanhe's a 41 pt talent but you get the grimoires in the trainer list even if you arent spec'd for him
12:53.35Nickenyfikenis it the only demon that requires a talent?
12:53.44kebinusanyeah the rest are all level based
12:55.53nahkiss10 imp, 20 Voidwalker, 30 succubus, 40 felsteed, 50 infernal ?, 60 dreadsteed
12:56.32Elkanohmm... may be right for the skill data, though having it shared would give other classes the oportunity to browse it; but for the traner locations I think they should be shared
12:56.51Nickenyfikenyeah i guess i can add a check
12:57.17kebinusanYeah just check and see if they have the 41pt demonology talent before showing felguard grimoires or somethin
12:57.17NickenyfikenElkano: but atleast the notes is shared :-P
12:57.48NickenyfikenElkano: and as it now trainer location name and data is stored in two places wich is a bad thing
12:59.02kebinusanIts not alot of data whats the harm in storing it globally?
12:59.34kebinusanI mean hell, look at what somethign like lootlink or damage meters stores
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13:00.13Nickenyfikenthey are bloated :-P
13:00.59Elkanokebinusan, having things like ItemDB or Ludwig, LootLink/ItemSync are bad ideas anyways ;9
13:01.18Nickenyfikenthe biggest problem with changing the DB is that many users want to convert all data from the old format
13:01.31Nickenyfikeni should have never released it :-P
13:01.51Elkanowrite a converter or tell them to stfu
13:02.34NickenyfikenWould it be a good idea to have it come with a trainer/skill DB out of the box?
13:02.43Nickenyfikenwith atleast trainers in the main citys
13:05.28kebinusanNickenyfiken: couldnt hurt
13:05.44kebinusanjust make a library to hold all that nasty trainer info or something
13:06.09ElkanoNickenyfiken, in that case, make your data language independant
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13:06.47Nickenyfikentheres alot that has to be done
13:07.10Nickenyfikenhmm well kodewulf already has written School
13:07.47Elkanowell, I switched from school to TrainerFu ^^'
13:08.00Nickenyfikenwell language independant how?
13:08.02Nickenyfikenhehe
13:09.12Elkanowell, store englich strings or some unique identifiers and when displaying them to the client, localize them. That way one version fits all locales
13:13.09kebinusanhmm I have some sort of auctioneer bias
13:13.24Nickenyfikenah yeah
13:13.26kebinusanI always use the one on the left of the IF AH
13:13.33MikmaNickenyfiken: assclown, TrainerFu gives me errors when i take gifts :D
13:14.24NickenyfikenMikma: cus you are running the finnish localized wow :-P
13:14.50Nickenyfikenwhat error and why and how do i fix it? :-P
13:15.21kebinusanyeah no errors here
13:15.25kebinusanjust picked up my gifts
13:15.35kebinusanno maintenence either yay
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13:17.43Nickenyfikenjust wait for the not scheduled 10 hour maintence on saturday
13:18.08kebinusanNickenyfiken: heh, 10 hours? isnt that a bit optimistic
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13:23.06LordRhysMerry Christmas all
13:23.50Nickenyfikenthanks!
13:24.06MikmaNickenyfiken: i need to get back to you about the errors when i test it next time, gotta run now
13:24.12MikmaNickenyfiken: and enGB here :)
13:24.38Mikmalaters
13:24.38NickenyfikenMikma: okidoki, if you find a easy fix for it just commit it :-)
13:24.48MikmaNickenyfiken: roger, thathaa
13:27.29NickenyfikenKaelten: KCI2 is still just gathering data. not showing anything right?
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13:34.53KemayoMutter.  I just had to reboot because my RAID array split up again.
13:37.09KemayoAlso, the Pope wishes you all a merry Christmas: http://www.theferrett.com/pictures/tidings.jpg
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13:39.52Nickenyfikenlol
13:40.27abbat_wMikma run finnish localized wow? :)
13:40.54abbat_wHeh, interesting, how be Undercity in finnish
13:41.39NickenyfikenUnnendereniccittyy
13:41.46Nickenyfikenor something like that
13:41.51abbat_w;))))
13:41.53abbat_wyep ;)
13:43.26navvfinnish localizzed wow would be nice!
13:43.33NickenyfikenPaljon lunta mutta eikä taskulamppu
13:43.47Nickenyfikenthat is "Much snow but no flashlight" in finnish
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13:43.56navvclose
13:43.58abbat_wI know only one finnish word. And don't know what he matter. It's 'perkelle'
13:44.22NickenyfikenPerkele voivittu or something
13:45.32abbat_wBut i like finnish togue. While you listen finnish looks like this language have only vowel sounds
13:45.59navvyeah, thats what people say
13:46.19navvlots of vowels, long words
13:46.30abbat_wyeah
13:47.00navvstructurally tho, it's a decently complex language
13:47.18abbat_wyou are finnish?
13:47.20navvyea
13:47.49abbat_w<- bloody russian
13:48.02navv:/
13:48.04Nickenyfikennavv: what exactly is Paljon lunta mutta eikä taskulamppu?
13:48.12navvwell, it's nothing really
13:48.18navva lot of snow but not flashlight
13:48.20navvmaybe
13:48.37Nickenyfikenhehe well it's a quote but...
13:48.41Nickenyfikenfrom a swedish movie
13:48.46navvpaljon lunta, mutta ei taskulamppua
13:48.59Nickenyfikenok
13:49.14Nickenyfikenyou know swedish?
13:49.31navvsomewhat yea, we have to
13:49.53navvenglish is definately my second language tho, not swedish
13:50.02Nickenyfikenwell in the movie he say "Mycket snö men ingen fickplampa, fast på finska"
13:50.13Nickenyfikenah ok
13:50.23navvyeah
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13:52.14xlviiuhmm..
13:52.20LordRhysCan anyone give me some suggestions to look at, I'm trying to read the data in my Database for other characters to display alt char data that user wants to look at
13:52.20xlviido the otravi rogue addons work/
13:54.06Neriakfuck GetItemCount() ... it does always give me the total count of all items of a type in my inv ... what's the sense of it? I want to know how many items are on my actual stack :(
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13:54.42NickenyfikenLordRhys: you mean from AceDB?
13:55.39NickenyfikenNeriak: well don't you have to add together the amount in each stack you have?
13:56.06Gngskdid blizz add some mobs in scholo recently? the room before the viewing room seems a bit more populated than normal
13:56.21Gngskoh nvm, I see
13:56.24LordRhysyes, I have my DB set with RegisterDefaults('char',{TrackItems{....},...,} what I want to do is go into char for a particular char name besides current player to read the data
13:56.36xlviidoes anyone know of an addon that allows me to right click on a poison then select which hand to apply it to?
13:56.40GngskI must've just gotten a really rare spawn setup, usually there's 2 spiders roaming but only 1 and an extra group with ghoul/corpse
13:56.58Grinexlvii, oApplication did that
13:57.05NeriakNickenyfiken: I want to split the current amount of an item on my cursor to let's say the half ... GetItemCount() does return 490 and not 20, because I have 490 Dreamdust in my inventory ..
13:57.13xlviiGrine, I know.. but that's not around anymore.. wondering if there is somehting else to do it
13:57.37LordRhysxlvii all the addons I've tried lately are still broke, need to be updated for new protected actions
13:57.40NeriakNickenyfiken: but I only want the amount of the item on my cursor .. GetItemCount() doesn't understand that ;)=
13:58.43Neriakand GetItemInfo only returns the maximum size of possible stack
13:59.20Nickenyfikenah
14:00.53NeriakIn Fence I have a function that does split a stack into one item each strg-click .. and I wanted a shift-click to always split the current stack into a half ... that would be freaking nice.
14:00.56Aileenooh I hadn't had a chance to look at the API stuff, GetItemCount is useful to me in that form ;)
14:01.06LordRhysI use the following for itemcount: local texture, itemCount = GetContainerItemInfo(bag, slot)
14:01.33NeriakLordRhys: that does work? hmm gonna test it :)
14:01.35Aileenmaybe you want GetInventoryItemCount
14:01.48NeriakAileen: didn't see this one
14:01.53NeriakHell, I want it!
14:01.54NickenyfikenNeriak: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo maybe
14:01.54Neriakhehe
14:02.10Aileenalso http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInventoryItemCount
14:02.21Nickenyfikenah no nvm my link
14:02.31Aileenoh wait, that's not inventory i'm thinking of
14:02.43Aileenthat's what you're wearing, oops
14:02.59Neriakhm maybe it does work though
14:03.15NeriakI gonna try all of your suggestions, thanks for the support :)
14:04.16LordRhysGetItemCount may be easier for me also since I actualy want total count
14:04.33AileenI think Nickenyfiken was thinking of GetContainerItemInfo
14:04.56Aileenwhich is what I think I use now, and add them all up
14:05.08Nickenyfikenyup
14:05.52Neriakok GetInventoryItemCount() does really only work on worn items
14:05.56LordRhysI do the same Aileen I get the individual slot totals and add them all up
14:06.08NickenyfikenInventory = equipped i guess
14:06.27NeriakLordRhys: GeItemCount() does that for all of your items, so for you it's an optimization
14:06.59Nickenyfikenlol you have it mixed up guys... swap functions and you get what you need :-)
14:07.35Aileenyeah... same here, time to rewrite FarmerFu after doing the family stuff today :)
14:08.03Nickenyfikendamnit i unbinded open menu (esc)
14:08.10Nickenyfikenhow the hell do i open it now?
14:08.19Nickenyfikenor open the key bind interface
14:08.35NeriakNickenyfiken: happened a thousand of times to me too
14:09.13NeriakNickenyfiken: I had FuBar_MicroMenuFu ^^
14:09.19Neriakthat helped me hehe
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14:09.26Nickenyfikenyeah i dont have the micromenu :-P
14:09.32Nickenyfikenor wait BT3 has one i guess
14:09.38Neriakthen hang on, I'll look at the code
14:09.47Neriakah yeah bt3 has it
14:10.29Aileenhrm, I was hoping OneStorage made like a shared repository of bank stuff, but it doesn't look like that's the case
14:11.11Nickenyfikenyeah all ace mods that store information about characters items should use the same lib
14:11.15Nickenyfikenthat would be sweet
14:12.49Neriakhow do I get the slot of an item when I clicked it?
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14:15.13KemayoKaelten: KC_Items minibug -- the ? for filters doesn't go away when you change to other tabs.
14:17.02kenlyricAileen, yeah, i can't figure out what onestorage does :)
14:17.50NeriakLordRhys: woot, thanks .. your solution really does work well for me :)
14:18.01Neriakthanks to everyone again, though :)
14:18.02KaeltenKemayo: hrm
14:18.22Kaeltenkemaya on another note what do you think of that method for usage hints?
14:18.23Kaelten?
14:18.35LordRhysnp, glad I could help
14:18.35CIA-1703xinius * r22102 10FuBar_ShardCountFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): .Fubar_ShardCountFu: Initial Commit
14:23.58GrineKaelten, KC_Mobility can't remember framepostitions anymore?
14:25.08axxoany addon i can type /script stuff in and that remembers history though /rl?
14:25.29Grinehmm I just noticed...  should make a new acc on wowace.com, don't have the same name as here
14:26.31KaeltenGrine: not yet
14:27.04GrineKaelten, okay :)
14:27.55KemayoKaelten: It seems fairly workable for hints.  The particular shade of blue doesn't stand out very much, though.
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14:32.13xlviihas otravi stopped producing addons now?
14:32.44Kemayoxlvii: haste removed his addons from the wowace svn because he was tired of other people committing to them.
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14:33.12CIA-1703xinius * r22103 10FuBar_ShardCountFu/Libs/: FuBar_ShardCountFu - Updated Externals
14:33.22AmadeoMerry Whateveryoubelievein
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14:36.07Fisker-does tristan visit irc?
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14:37.08KaeltenKemayo: hrm well if you could suggest a better color to stand out I'd use it
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14:38.06ThraeKaelten: Merry Christmas!
14:38.38CIA-1703neriak * r22105 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_Clicks.lua):
14:38.38CIA-17Fence:
14:38.38CIA-17- changed shift-right click to always split the item's stack to the half eg. Stack of 20 into 10,5,2,1. 5 will split into 2, of course ;)
14:39.38KaeltenThrae:  :) same to you
14:40.33NickenyfikenNeriak: does Fence have a option to click a item to search for it?
14:40.41Neriakyes it does
14:40.46Neriakstrg-right click
14:40.54KaeltenNeriak: whats fence?
14:41.45NeriakKaelten: hm sort of only the best from every auction addon I know .. but no tooltip support, it never will .. that's waht KCI for eg is for :)
14:41.45Neriakit's completely modular
14:41.46StephmwMerry Christmas everyone!
14:41.46Neriakcheck the wiki
14:41.54CIA-1703kaelten 07Ace2 * r22106 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
14:41.54CIA-17KC_Items (Ace 2) -
14:41.54CIA-17- New Frame for the auction house commands. Thanks to haste for the basic design.
14:41.54CIA-17- Moved the new from below the auction house frame
14:41.54CIA-17- Fixed bug where the ? hint would show up on all the pages of the AH
14:42.07Neriakhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Fence
14:42.52NickenyfikenKCI + Fence will be a good combo
14:43.18Neriakyeah, but you would have to watch what modules you're using .. there could be conflicts, I'm afraid
14:43.51KaeltenNeriak: hehe, neat
14:43.54Nickenyfikenlike what?
14:43.56Neriakeg: using KCI's broker and Fence's Auto fill module would be a bad idea
14:44.01KaeltenNeriak: I got a proposition for ya :)_
14:44.20NeriakI don't know which one gets the priority since we both hook the same functions :P
14:44.45xlviiKemayo, do you know where they are hosted now?
14:45.20NeriakKaelten: go on, what? :)
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14:45.32Kaeltenwould you object to me embed some/all of fence inside of the new KCI
14:45.50Nickenyfikenjust what i was thinking :-P
14:45.57KaeltenI was about to have to go and recode a large chunk of that
14:46.00abbat_wbtw
14:46.06NeriakKaelten: that would be totally awesome!
14:46.20abbat_wany addon which can automatic remove unwanted mark of honors from bg's? :)
14:46.21cncfanaticsyo all
14:46.28NeriakAlso we could get rid of eventually conflicts between both addons
14:46.29Kaeltencool I'll work on integrating it in tonight
14:46.40Nickenyfikenabbat_w: why would the be unwated?
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14:46.52NeriakKaelten: great. and if you wanna add stuff to Fence, feel free .. it's totally easy
14:46.54Kaeltenya, we can work towards that
14:46.56abbat_wNickenyfiken, because i already have 100 wsg, 100 ab and 100 av marks
14:47.15Kaelten:)
14:47.16Nickenyfikenabbat_w: well you just get them in the mail instead right?
14:47.21NeriakBoth addons combined will be like world domination, lol
14:47.24Dhragamerry x-mas and all that... and anyone using a 'watch your back' addon that flips the camera 180 degrees while the button is pressed only ?
14:47.26KaeltenI'll use externals to import the portions of fence I want to put in to KCI
14:47.46abbat_wNickenyfiken, yep. 2-3 pages with marks
14:47.52Kaeltenthat way it'll stay up to date fairly easy :)
14:48.24NeriakKaelten: yup, crazy idea .. I like that hehe .. Ok, have to prepare dinner ... later mates
14:48.39NeriakKaelten: btw: nice interview, I enjoyed it :)
14:48.44Nickenyfikenabbat_w: ah damn you have to play BGs alot
14:48.53Nickenyfikenwhat interview?
14:49.09abbat_wSure. Everytime i play on bg
14:49.25Nickenyfikendamn i have to eat something too... :-(
14:49.33abbat_wwe stop raiding till NY ;)
14:49.41Nickenyfikeni hate cooking
14:49.42Nickenyfikenah ok
14:49.43abbat_wor till BC
14:49.57Stephmwabbat_w: same here pretty much
14:50.07Stephmwabbat_w: how much honour are you racking up per day?
14:50.17xlviiabbat_w, for the horde?
14:50.17xlvii;p
14:50.18Nickenyfikeni get so pissed off when i try to play... non is raiding/doing instances and BGs is too laggy
14:50.30abbat_wxlvii, yeah ;)
14:50.40StephmwI'm in battlegroup8... it's well named 'Misery'...
14:50.53abbat_w<- bg1
14:50.59Stephmwbg8 horde just don't seem organised at all :(
14:51.26Stephmwyou have the: a) SP rushers, b) Balinda fanciers, c) FoS idiots
14:51.40Nickenyfikeni dont know what group im in but i can tell you horde sucks
14:51.42xlviiabbat_w, us?
14:51.54abbat_wno
14:51.57abbat_wwarsong@eu
14:52.10NickenyfikenShatterd Hand@EU
14:52.20xlviiThaurissan@US
14:52.25KaeltenNeriak: Thanks :)
14:52.27StephmwNickenyfiken: http://wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/battlegrounds/battlegroups.html
14:52.31abbat_wStephmw ;) Every bg group have same guys ;)
14:52.59Stephmwabbat_w: true enough - it's really frustrating when everyone just cockblocks at SH gy
14:53.01Nickenyfikenmy BG stats is like one win in 10 matches or even worse in AV
14:53.21StephmwNickenyfiken: over the past 4 days, mine are almost 50-50
14:53.38Nickenyfikennice
14:53.49Arrowmasterim 20-80 in AV
14:54.16Stephmwif the other side isn't defending too much (ie, 5 or 6 defending) it only takes one premade group to change the course of AV... AB I've given up on
14:54.33AmadeoI'm closer to Arrowmaster's too, but probably worse
14:54.41Amadeoas Alliance
14:54.54abbat_wok. now time for corporate xmas
14:55.03Nickenyfikeni still think Alliance has a advantage in AV... i would like to see some stats on how the factions perform
14:55.14abbat_wi hate corporate party but....
14:55.21abbat_wcya guys
14:55.22AmadeoHorde has the final pull advantage by far
14:55.25Stephmwwe have to work harder in our bg - 2/3rd  of it are pvp servers... mine's a pve server :)
14:55.27abbat_wmarry xmas for you all ;)
14:55.58StephmwAmadeo: aye, but getting there can be a real struggle
14:56.10StephmwAmadeo: it takes just 8 alliance defending to halt any push
14:56.41Q6any ace mods like super inspect?
14:57.04Nickenyfikeni hate that damn bridge... everyone in horde just stays on that fucking thing and they day everyone could push over the bridge at the same time horde would win alot more
14:57.14NickenyfikenQ6: not that i know
14:57.14AmadeoQ6: Not that I know of
14:57.17Amadeohaha
14:57.18Nickenyfikenlol
14:57.20Q6:D
14:57.31Nickenyfikenwrite one :-P
14:58.28Nickenyfikennow time for food/show in preparation for this evenings beer drinking wich is a preparating for tomorrows hangover
14:58.35Nickenyfikenshower*
14:58.43Nickenyfikendamn i cant type :-P
14:58.59StephmwNickenyfiken: that bridge can be overcome if you have SP, 2 mages and a healer :)
14:59.11StephmwNickenyfiken: ... oh, and those players don't mind about 4 suicide runs
14:59.53xlviidoes anyone know how i can see all the herbs in cartographer?
15:00.02xlviilike, a full database of all herbs? ;p
15:00.24StephmwAmadeo: I naturally hate Paladins (me being Horde), but I can't wait for alliance to have to fight Paladins ;-)
15:01.25AmadeoStephmw: In TBC it's not that bad, lol
15:01.46AmadeoDamage has gone up so much
15:02.01AmadeoI can't wait to fight one on my Shaman, I want to see how it is
15:02.19AmadeoI was highest DPS in our SM group last night, and I was just autoattacking
15:02.29Amadeoby about 15%
15:03.38xlviidoes anyone know how i can see all the herbs in cartographer? a full database of all herbs? ;p
15:03.44ThraeAmadeo: The other people in your group must have sucked :D
15:03.50xlviiamadeo, beating rogues too? ;_;
15:04.49AmadeoNo Rogue
15:04.52Amadeobut I'm level 40 :P
15:05.08AmadeoWe had two Warlocks, a Priest and a Warrior (who was DPSing with his WW axe)
15:05.20AmadeoThrae: They did, actually, haha
15:05.27AmadeoPriest kept PW:S me
15:05.31AmadeoI told him to stop, but he didn't
15:05.44AmadeoHe wasted all his mana the whole time
15:05.53AmadeoI'm picky about Priests though, since I used to be one
15:06.23AmadeoBut let me tell you, Shaman DPS is crazy with dual wield
15:06.28Amadeoat least at my level
15:06.32ThraeHeh, I usually out-DPS'd Shamans on my Resto Druid...bad players are no indication of how powerful a class is ;)
15:06.46AmadeoI'm almost in constant Windfury
15:06.56Thraes/a class/another class/
15:07.02Amadeoat what level, Thrae?
15:07.17ThraeTrue. I am looking forward to making a Dranei Shaman.
15:07.36ThraeI stopped my Horde Druid at Level 49, I have a Level 55 Night Elf Druid as my main now
15:07.41AmadeoThere was a level 70 Shaman who said he was #6 on Patchwork or something, maybe it was another mob
15:07.56AmadeoI don't expect to be the best DPS class or anything, but I'm really happy with him so far
15:08.05AmadeoI just have no mana :(
15:08.13xlviidoes anyone know how i can see all the herbs in cartographer? a full database of all herbs? ;p
15:08.40ThraeFeral Druids can also top the DPS charts with decent gear, the right talents, and most importantly, skill.
15:09.50AmadeoYeah, Feral Druids are a bit overpowered in TBC, at least in my opinion :P
15:10.04ThraeDPS TBC Shaman vs DPS TBC Druid would be an interesting fight
15:10.11ThraeYeah, and about DAMN time!
15:10.31AmadeoDruids were always powerful, but most people weren't very good at utilizing everything they have
15:10.43Amadeothe only time they sucked was way back before they had Feral Regeneration and such
15:10.52ThraeFrenzied Regeneration
15:11.04ThraeAnd before 1.8, our melee damage was laughable
15:11.50ThraeBefore our talent tree review in 1.9, we couldn't kill worth squat unless we had 4x more time then anyone else needed (except Paladins, we tied with Paladins on how long our fights lasted)
15:11.52AmadeoI dunno, I've been hit by Ravage for over 2200 damage a long time ago too
15:12.30AmadeoYeah, I agree that a lot of fights took more time
15:12.43Q6how about any mods that help with AV turn-ins? or other repeated quests
15:12.47Amadeobut you could still beat anyone with that time
15:12.49xlviidoes anyone know how i can see all the herbs in cartographer? a full database of all herbs? ;p
15:13.03AmadeoNow you have the DPS to beat people straight up, PLUS the ability to utilize that time
15:13.08AmadeoI think that makes the class overpowered :)
15:13.17Amadeobrb
15:13.19Stephmwxlvii: if you've not yet got an answer, it means nobody currently online knows...
15:13.26Stephmwxlvii: post on the UI mod forums
15:13.40nuOHEPThrae, you think a feral druid will outdps a combat-dagger rogue (with equal gear)?
15:17.02LordRhysNeriak: Will GetItemCount also get total from Bank if Bank is open?
15:21.24AmadeoI think Feral Druids can out-DPS Rogues in PvP
15:21.29Amadeothey have more burst than Rogues now
15:21.37Amadeowell, in TBC at least
15:22.08nuOHEPim not talking abot pvp :p
15:22.26Stephmwuntil tbc, pve doesn't count :)
15:25.20Amadeothis is really sexy, I just wish it had a standard layout - http://www.diatec.co.jp/en/det.php?prod_c=344
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15:29.50neeneeis there a way for Arkinventory to not open the backpack when visiting a bank, mailbox, etc?
15:30.31Amadeono, he didn't put the hooks in
15:30.54neeneeok
15:32.21neeneetoo bad
15:32.38neeneeHe did mention 'customisable auto open/close hooks for everything (bank, mailbox, marchant, auction house, trade) are functional in my working copy of 1.24'
15:34.41Amadeoyeah, it opens for all of that
15:34.41Mikmahi folks
15:34.43MikmaNickenyfiken: alive?
15:34.48Amadeobut it won't replace the bags yet
15:35.06neeneeAh okay
15:35.09neeneeOh well.
15:35.20neeneeI like the bags so far. I just wish it grew up instead of down.
15:35.53NickenyfikenMikma: almost
15:36.01MikmaNickenyfiken: good. checking the errors now
15:37.16Nickenyfikenok
15:37.49Nickenyfikengonna eat and then go out so i probably dont have time to fix anything today
15:38.55Mikmaoes
15:39.53Mikmadidn't get any errors now hehehehee
15:40.00Mikmatesting with other chars
15:42.31mjchappy holidays, noobs.
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15:43.30AmadeoNoobs!?
15:44.06AmadeoIs there a Ubuntu 6.10 Live CD? I can't find it on the damn site
15:45.13mjchttp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/6.10/
15:46.01Amadeowhich is live?
15:46.15Amadeoor is it just an install option on the normal disc?
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15:48.15Fisker-doesn't seem to be a 6.10 live cd yet
15:48.22Amadeobut people talk about it if you google it
15:51.27packetlssare there dvd isos for ubuntu? (i have no CDRs at home :) )
15:53.03CIA-1703Tristan * r22107 10RaidAgent/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
15:53.03CIA-17RaidAgent:
15:53.03CIA-17- Loads of spells put into Census
15:54.14Thraepacketlss: Ask on #ubuntu
15:54.50Amadeomaybe I'll try the Fedora Live CD
15:54.51Amadeoit's new!
15:55.03Amadeo"This Live CD contains a cool and unique wallpaper just for this special occasion."
15:55.56mjchaste: :(
15:56.19mjcpacketlss: silly to use a dvd
15:56.50mjcpacketlss: better to do the regular install and apt-get your way to whatever you want instead of using the outdated shite on the disk
15:57.00AmadeoI don't even have a DVD drive :(
15:57.06mjchaha
15:57.21mjcdvd-rw are like $20-30US
15:57.29AmadeoI know, I really should get one
15:57.36Amadeobut then again, I probably burn a CD once a year
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15:58.01CIA-1703gamefaq * r22108 10simpleMinimap/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
15:58.01CIA-17simpleMinimap:
15:58.01CIA-17- Added deDE Translation
15:58.01CIA-17- Fixed Error in English Base Translation
15:58.09AmadeoI always wait too long to get new technology
15:58.15AmadeoDVD came out, I just ignored it since it was like $500
15:58.17Amadeo:P
15:58.19Fisker-~seen tristan
15:58.46purltristan <i=tristan@ppp120-43.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 151d 13h 9m 40s ago, saying: 'it's tomcat tomcat-5.5.17-r1 running under gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 with sun jvm 1.5.0_07-b03'.
15:58.46Amadeonow it's dirt cheap
15:58.46Amadeoso by the time I get one, it'll be phased out
15:58.46Fisker-so noone knows tristan? :(
15:58.46hastemjc: hmm?
15:58.47mjcAmadeo: HD-DVD and bluray will suck for a long time
15:58.53mjchaste: put your stuff back and lock it :(
15:59.01NeriakLordRhys: sorry, I don't have an anwer for your question :)
15:59.12AmadeoYeah, I'm not too happy with what HD/Bluray looks like right now either
15:59.59AmadeoI hate format wars
15:59.59mjcfuck format wars, copy prot is the big deal
16:00.23KaeltenAwayoff for xmas celebration guys
16:00.28KaeltenAwaybe back in a little while
16:00.31Amadeohave fun Kaelten :)
16:00.53AmadeoI imagine everything being severely locked down sometime in the future, as far as copy protection goes
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16:01.01Amadeonot near future though
16:01.07Amadeoeveryone will have to go Linux to avoid it :P
16:01.18mjcnah
16:01.27mjcall the linux dvd copying stuff works fine in OSX :)
16:01.45mjccf. handbrake or DVD2OneX or any of the random perl shite
16:01.49AmadeoI'm talking about 15-20 years though
16:01.55mjcshrug
16:02.09mjcnobody knows that far in advance
16:02.28AmadeoYeah, but you can see how a lot of companies are already being strong-armed by stuff like DRM, etc
16:03.30mjcthey might get a clue in the future, it happens sometimes
16:03.35Amadeohehe
16:03.46mjcman I need to buy some 16x disks, I have like 150 8x ones to go through though :/
16:03.49AmadeoI like how Bill Gates says he hates DRM, but the Zune sucks because of it
16:04.03mjczune sucks period, has nothing to do with DRM
16:04.11mjcsure the DRM sucks too but
16:04.17mjceven without it the zune is a failure
16:04.27AmadeoI don't know if I'd go that far, because the Zune supposidly has some of the best audio quality of any portable player in a long time
16:04.52mjcsame decoder as the ipod video, so htat's a crock of shit
16:05.07AmadeoIt's more than the decoder, because iPods are low quality unless you use the line-out
16:05.07NeriakAmadeo: huh, will he make 320 kbs file out of a 128 kbs quality? ;)
16:05.40Amadeomjc: Just check out head-fi.org , people over there are crazy about audio quality
16:05.47mjcmost of them are retards
16:05.47AmadeoThey won't say a product is good just because of a name on it
16:06.06AmadeoWhy is that?
16:06.10mjchydrogenaudio has some smart people doing ABX tests, but other than that, they're all retards
16:06.11Neriakmaybe because of money^^
16:06.27AmadeoI've noticed most posts on hydrogenaudio tell people to go to head-fi
16:06.51mjcthey're retards because audio is a subjective thing, and 90%+ can't tell the difference in an ABX test
16:07.03mjcabout 90%+ of things
16:07.19mjcmulti-channel is about the only thing missing from current audio stuff
16:07.26mjcI'll be back in a sec, switching boxen
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16:07.58Amadeoit's subjective, but you can still measure the difference with the right equipment...I agree that the Zune sucks, but it's for reasons other than audio quality
16:08.15Amadeothere are a lot of portable players which have horrible audio quality, since there are so many available now
16:08.29mjcthose sort of issues fix themselves over time anyways
16:08.52AmadeoThere's only so much you can do if the company cuts costs in internal hardware
16:08.55MikmaKaeltenAway: so, what shall we use now that GMail is gone?
16:09.06Amadeothat's why there are iPod modifications to replace some of it, to make it sound better
16:09.07mjcAmadeo: market weeds that shite out
16:09.18mjcAmadeo: most of those are a crock of shite also
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16:10.00Amadeomjc: This is one of the popular iPod modifications for audiophiles - they only do it to certain iPods, though.. http://www.redwineaudio.com/iMod.html
16:10.06mjcI've seen it
16:10.15mjcmass ABX test it and come back with real results
16:10.25AmadeoBut as you see, it's more than just a decoder
16:10.30AmadeoThere's more to it than software :)
16:10.40mjcthe decoding on embedded players is hardware
16:10.58AmadeoDoesn't software control it?
16:11.12mjcstop/start/whatev, but it's all done on the chip
16:11.47CIA-1703gamefaq * r22109 10simpleMinimap/localization.lua:
16:11.47CIA-17simpleMinimap:
16:11.47CIA-17- small deDE tweak
16:12.08AmadeoI'm checking if anyone's done tests
16:13.16Amadeoslow connection from downloading
16:13.22AmadeoI need FiOS
16:13.25mjclimit your upload to 75%
16:13.27mjc:P
16:13.47Amadeowon't that slow down my downloads?
16:14.04hastedepends on how well seeded it is
16:14.08AmadeoI'm not on BT or anything, just a normal download
16:14.11hasteif it's badly seeded, it will most liekly increase it
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16:15.26mjcAmadeo: learn to QoS
16:16.03Elkano~seen wobin
16:16.20purlwobin <i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4d 3h 9m 42s ago, saying: 'Have they changed GetFactionInfo?'.
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16:16.23mjc100mbit here, using 99.5, still have a ping to google of 20ms..
16:16.41Amadeohow much upstream is used to just download a file?
16:16.47mjc25%
16:16.52mjcsometimes more
16:16.58mjcTCP ACK
16:16.58Mikmaag`: "Discord stole my bike" :)
16:17.13Amadeo25% shouldn't be slowing me this much
16:17.39mjcuse QoS
16:17.46BarbanusGood morning everyone, Merry Christmas
16:18.47mjcAmadeo: also increase number of half-open connections and tell your browser to make more conns.
16:19.28mjcbut a good QoS setup should make that unneccessary
16:20.49Amadeohow much should I reserve?
16:21.05mjc25%, minimum
16:21.11mjcof your upload
16:21.43mjcbut you should have control over what packets are classified as what priority and how to handle TCP state changes and stuff
16:22.01mjcshower time.
16:22.03mjcbe back shortly
16:22.07AmadeoI just see Limit Reservable Bandwidth
16:22.33AmadeoI wonder if it lets me add stuff
16:26.41Amadeobrb
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16:29.05CIA-1703Tristan * r22110 10RaidAgent/common/ (Census.lua FuBarHandling.lua Toolbox.lua):
16:29.05CIA-17RaidAgent:
16:29.05CIA-17- An error snuck in preventing correct display
16:32.16mjcsomeone tell amadeo when he gets back: get a linux or cisco router and configure it all yourself based on your actual usage.
16:32.19mjcbbl.
16:33.09Nickenyfikenckknight: listening to your wowradio interview now. good stuff
16:33.46Gngsklink?
16:33.55Nickenyfikenhttp://www.wcradio.com/archive/farmstatus/wow-wtc-12-22-2006.mp3
16:35.23Gngskthx
16:35.37Sarozsweet
16:35.38Sarozdownloading
16:36.35CIA-1703arjuna * r22111 10simpleMinimap/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
16:36.35CIA-17simpleMinimap:
16:36.35CIA-17- autozoom now hooks SetZoom
16:37.49CIA-1703arjuna * r22112 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.toc:
16:37.49CIA-17simpleMinimap:
16:37.49CIA-17- version conflict resolution
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16:38.23CIA-17Click2Cast:
16:38.23CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:38.24CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:39.25CIA-1703Tristan * r22114 10RaidAgent/common/FuBarHandling.lua:
16:39.25CIA-17RaidAgent:
16:39.25CIA-17- Added Shift-Ctrl-Click for full printout of Census data
16:40.48nahkissHey could anybody guide me with this, I'm trying to do a GUI-extension for already existing addon which has only slash commands and I was just wondering how I could execute those slash commands of the other addon from my addon? or could I directly call the other addon's functions from my addon?
16:40.55nahkissKinda new with these things :l
16:43.16CIA-1703arjuna * r22115 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.lua:
16:43.16CIA-17simpleMinimap:
16:43.17CIA-17- cruft from version conflict
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16:48.27AmadeoI must have broken my CDR drive somehow
16:48.28Amadeohaha
16:48.34Amadeoit wont' burn
16:48.36Amadeojust spins up and down
16:49.50AmadeoI hate when stuff doesn't work
16:51.09CIA-1703arjuna * r22116 10simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap.lua:
16:51.09CIA-17simpleMinimap:
16:51.09CIA-17- third time is the charm ;)
16:51.40Amadeowhoa
16:51.45Amadeoit spun up and down about 25 times
16:51.47Amadeothen started burning
16:52.07Elkanoshould we call fire fighters?
16:52.23AmadeoYes! Help!
16:52.24Amadeohaha
16:52.45AmadeoWhat's the best burning software for Windows these days? Maybe that's the problem
16:53.02nahkissI guess it's still nero
16:53.21AmadeoI was afraid of that
16:53.24XogxogHmm..
16:53.25AmadeoNero has turned into a huge app
16:53.38Elkanobtw: anyone from Grid team online? any chance that clicking the FuBar plugin forces an update of Grid in cases it didn't show up when eg entering BGs?
16:53.40nahkissyea it's kinda bloated these days
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16:54.25Arrowmasterwhen i installed the the newest nero, i think it was 7, i just used advanced install and only installed the burning rom and cd cover creator
16:54.40XogxogAnyone know why my Bartender3 bars are showinig the wrong keybindings?
16:54.45Xogxog*showing
16:55.08axxobecause you need to redo them
16:55.37AmadeoArrowmaster: I'll have to check that out
16:56.45Xogxogaxxo, redo them where? Through the Blizzard keybindings or through Bartender3.. 'cause I already set 'em for the bars in Bartender3..
16:57.50CIA-1703ag * r22117 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua:
16:57.50CIA-17FuBar_HonorFu
16:57.51CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:00.52CIA-1703Tristan * r22118 10RaidAgent/common/ (Census.lua FuBarHandling.lua):
17:00.52CIA-17RaidAgent:
17:00.52CIA-17- Temporarily added option to output census reports to raid so I don't have to type it all the time for someone to check if it's correct :)
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17:05.03neeneeDon't drink and drive. You might hit a bump and spill your drink.
17:07.20Amadeobrb - again
17:09.19CIA-1703Tristan * r22119 10RaidAgent/common/FuBarHandling.lua:
17:09.19CIA-17RaidAgent:
17:09.19CIA-17- one of my "Shift/Ctrl/Alt"-Shortcuts was hijacked by windows allready had to change it ;)
17:10.24Mikmanevcairiel: using (almost latest) BT3, keyring doesn't work properly. it keeps appearing eventho it is being hidden
17:10.28Fisker-Anyone else having trouble with copying another profile in FuBar?
17:11.09Fisker-or is it just normal for profiles to not contain all the fubar settings(position, locks, and so on)?
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17:15.17xlviidoes anyone know if i can download a complete herbalism database for cartographer?
17:16.44Mikmano
17:17.47Fisker-anyone know tristan and how to get a hold of him?
17:18.08Mikmano, no
17:19.17ag`Mikma:
17:19.35Mikmaag`: :D
17:19.39ag`Click2Cast
17:19.51ag`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3729.0
17:20.07Mikmaag`: yeah installed it some time ago but can't actually use it with warlock :D
17:20.21ag`bind /violin macro to middle mouse
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17:23.44Mikmahmm
17:23.53Mikmawhat was the ace2 addon called that had undress etc in it?
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17:28.45Sarozwth
17:28.48SarozCide on wowradio aswell
17:28.51Sarozmust download
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17:31.12GngskSaroz, link?
17:31.45Sarozhttp://www.wcradio.com/downloads.php
17:33.35Gngskword
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17:38.03Fisker-Any of you others seen a multiline guild name before?
17:40.12xlviiI have
17:40.18xlviiI was wondering how they do it!
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17:40.31Fisker-know where it was or what it was called?
17:40.53xlviiIt's on Frostmourne
17:40.55xlviiCARE
17:40.56xlviiBEARS
17:41.04xlvii;p
17:41.08xlviiTwink PvP guild.
17:43.00nahkisshow's that possible? :l
17:43.12xlviiDon't ask, but I saw it
17:43.40nahkissI guess that the guild name editbox accepts somekind of line break characters then
17:44.59Fisker-perhaps you could make an addon that makes the editbox multiline?
17:45.00cncfanaticsyo all :) g'evening
17:45.17Fisker-we need to figure this out
17:45.36Fisker-how do you do linebreaks in lua?
17:45.47Stephmwthey probably use a unicode char
17:46.58xlviiask on a blizzhacking site?
17:47.04[Cu]Werikmaybe they just used ctrl+enter?:)
17:47.25Tornhoof\n maybe?
17:47.29Fisker-hardly considered hacking :P
17:47.31Fisker-i hope
17:47.36Tornhooflike "Care\nBears"
17:47.44nahkisstry it
17:48.27nahkissif it really works and you can add more line breaks than one .... heck things will go crazy when ppl find it out
17:48.51Fisker-gonna try on my unguilded alt
17:48.59Fisker-then i'll ginvite all chinese farmers on the server
17:49.11xlvii;p
17:49.22xlviido you have a lot on your server?
17:49.57Fisker-I think the horde side is somewhat empty
17:50.03Fisker-but a lot of chinese i think
17:50.45Fisker-invalid chars Tornhoof :(
17:53.17Fisker-perhaps it is possible to see the character if you read the guildname lua wise?
17:55.09ckknighthey all
17:56.10Fisker-ckknight how can i make a linebreak in lua? :P
17:56.12Fisker-you must know
17:56.18ckknight\n
17:56.24Fisker-we're trying to h4x and stuff
17:56.25Fisker-damn
17:56.32Fisker-ui doesn't accept it :(
17:56.38ckknightwhere you doing it?
17:56.48Fisker-trying to make a multiline guild
17:56.54Fisker-:P
17:56.55ckknightoh
17:56.59ckknightsorry, can't do it
17:57.09Fisker-thought it might be a linebreak character or something they used
17:57.10ckknight:-(
17:59.04Fisker-we must find out of the mystery ckknight
17:59.06axxotry alot of spaces
17:59.18axxoor reading it from an addon
17:59.22Fisker-not allowed
17:59.31ag`I can't remember, do I have to unregister an event myself or does Ace2 do it when you disable an addon?
17:59.42ckknightag`: does it for you
17:59.48ag`ok
17:59.52ag`it's because imagine this
17:59.56ag`In C2C
18:00.07ag`The user disables the addon in combat
18:00.07Fisker-how can you read it from an addon?
18:00.10XogxogAnyone know if oCD is borken?
18:00.44ag`but as it unregisters events, I can't queue the setattribute stuff to remove itself after the player leaves combat
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18:01.03axxoqueue the disable ;x
18:01.13ag`I can't
18:01.31ag`ckknight: got any solution for that?
18:03.09ckknightag`: I'm adding :ScheduleOutOfCombatAction(func, ...)
18:03.24ag`you rock my boxors
18:03.31ag`when will it be in?
18:03.40Xogxogckknight, Ace2 is infamous? ;P
18:03.45ckknightI'd say 30 minutes, but I'm gonna need breakfast
18:03.50ckknightXogxog: *shrug*
18:03.53ag`fine with me
18:04.11LordRhysmight want to make that Brunch
18:08.20ckknightLordRhys: ?
18:09.10xlviiXogxog, well.. there were questions about it on the WoW US forums.. like.. heaps of questions
18:09.16xlviiI just redirected people to wowace.com
18:09.25xlviiLike, people were asking how to fix their AddOns
18:09.34xlviiI told them to get Ace addons ;S
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18:13.18mjcLordRhys: ckknight lives in hawaii
18:13.58LordRhysohh ok, he mentioned Texas in his wowradio interview
18:14.01Gnarfozag`: don't know if the wiki is up to date, so I thought I'd ask the guy who'd know... is there a Attack Power watchdog tag for agUF?
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18:16.19ag`Gnarfoz: I can't remember actually
18:16.28ag`but the watchdog tag system is incomplete actually
18:16.42Gnarfozhm.
18:16.44ag`I need to redo the event system for it
18:16.51GnarfozI'll have a look at the code then ^^
18:17.02ag`Clad who wrote it made it for OnUpdate interval strings
18:17.06ag`I'd rather register events
18:17.09Gnarfozyeah
18:17.11Gnarfozfigures
18:17.13Gnarfoz:)
18:17.24ag`so tags currently only update on health value updates
18:17.30ag`those happen often, but
18:17.41axxoregen_disable best way to detect combat?
18:17.45ag`yes
18:18.05ag`but use InCombatLockdown() to see if you can do anything
18:19.05hyperChipmunkremakes are good
18:19.06hyperChipmunkmis
18:19.33Daemonauuh watchdog stuff? i want one for attack speed in % :D
18:20.20ag`on the unit frame? o_O
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18:20.54Mikmaag`: wassup?
18:23.10ckknightLordRhys: I said Nagrand was the most beautiful country in the world next to Texas
18:24.00Daemonaag` sur
18:24.11Daemonas/sur/sure
18:24.37Hjalteag`: Do you think you could let us use bandages on our unitframes, and let them override the default left click? That would be much appreciated :)
18:24.42Daemonaafter all i am a rogue, i need to know if i attack with 100 130 or 154% ;)
18:25.15DaemonaHjalte why? blizzard selfcast works with aguf?
18:25.32HjalteDaemona: Hmm.. Yea..?
18:26.28HjalteI don't like blizzard selfcast. Bartender has all the selfcast functionality i need, but i can't rightclick bandages
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18:30.44AmadeoI don't know if it's my PC or what, but that Live CD hardly runs right at all
18:30.52AmadeoTakes 5 minutes to do any single tasks
18:30.56Amadeoor longer
18:30.59Amadeostuff locks up
18:31.18hanzzonckknight; in Azshara the eastmost ilands disappear when you enable transparency in Cartographer...
18:31.30ckknightokay
18:31.35ckknightcan't really help that...
18:31.38hanzzonokies
18:32.27hanzzonalso sometimes both a herb and a mine can be at the same loc (almost) then it's difficult to see the herb/mine because the icon for the herb/mine is shown instead... if you catch my drift :P
18:33.09Gnarfozupdate
18:33.22Gnarfozcartographer shows transparent circles for nodes
18:33.39Gnarfozif under 100y
18:33.39ag`Hjalte: click to bandage will be possible through Click2Cast when item support is added
18:34.28Hjalteag`: That's nice, but being able to click my bandage on my actionbar and then with the glowing hand cursor click my unitframe would be really good also
18:34.46hanzzonGnarfoz; I have the latest version... what I mean is that the circle is covered by a mine if you are looking for herbs for example
18:35.04Gnarfozah
18:35.13Gnarfozthey only turn into circles for the current tracking?
18:35.43Gnarfoznever experienced that, don't have a char that is both miner and herbalist
18:35.44Gnarfoz^^
18:36.14hanzzonexactly...
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18:40.39add\\Leialynwhats that new Skinner module that skins the battleground frame ? Wanna disable it
18:40.59Mikmackknight: yo, does c2c have "max" rank in it?
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18:42.31ag`Mikma: yep
18:42.38snurreyeah, the latest skinner borks with bg scoreboard
18:42.46ag`if you do not punch in a rank number it uses max rank Mikma
18:43.52Mikmacool!
18:44.00Mikmaag`: what about mana vs. rank?
18:44.21add\\Leialynsnurre: how can I disable skinning of bg scorebord ?
18:44.32add\\Leialynu know? ^^
18:45.37add\\Leialynbut guess I just use yesterdays revision
18:47.43ag`Mikma: Blizzard doesn't allow for selecting spell according to free mana
18:51.09snurreadd\\Leialyn: dunno, sorry
18:51.22snurrehaving the same problem here, but cant be arsed reverting.. its just visual anyway
18:51.51add\\Leialynused last revision, hope its fixed soon
18:53.38add\\Leialynah and btw... anyone knows a solution how I can cast all my Managems with only 1 actionbar button (makro or so) ... assumed to be working only out of combat
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18:55.32Daemonause /castsequence ?
18:55.35Gngskadd\\Leialyn, you could setup an autorack button for your managems
18:56.57Daemonaor just use a macro that check for click, alt+click, shift+click and strg+click to cast the stuff? ;)
18:57.13Gngskhe said one button
18:57.18Gngskautorack can do it
18:57.35add\\Leialynhumn
18:58.01add\\Leialynbefore 2.0 I had a selfwritten addon/makro checking my inventory and then castspellbyname but that crap issn't even working ooc now
18:58.57add\\Leialynso can u use Items conditional ooc but not cast spells ?
18:59.10add\\Leialynlike the new autobar
18:59.35Gngsknot sure about autobar, but autorack just takes control of a bag slot and moves the items you setup into that slot
19:00.02Gngskworks fine in combat
19:00.20add\\Leialynyes I know but messes up my own bag item order
19:00.28GngskQQ
19:00.32add\\Leialyn;p
19:00.40add\\Leialynand I want to conjure em
19:00.43add\\Leialynnot use
19:01.05Gngskeh, you just want to conjure them all at once in order?
19:01.18Gnarfozdoes anyone know off hand the color code for the 'normal' blizzard text yellow?
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19:01.49add\\Leialynno Gngsk... conjure depending on which one is missing
19:02.25add\\Leialynor ... have a popup menu like autobar
19:03.11add\\Leialynhumn
19:05.07add\\Leialynwhere can I get castsequence? ^^
19:06.28Daemonayou could juggle with /cast [modifier:shift] ruby; [modifier:ctrl] ...; ...
19:06.39Daemonaerhm /castsequenze is a wow command ;)
19:06.41CIA-1703xinius * r22120 10FuBar_ShardCountFu/ (FuBar_ShardCountFu.toc Fubar_ShardCountFu.toc): FuBar_ShardCountFu: File renamed (cause of case sensitive mistake)
19:06.43HjalteHow do i cast a spell with the new macro system?
19:07.19Daemona./cast Greater Heal
19:07.23HjalteUh, mispelled the spell name.. >.<
19:07.33Daemona^^
19:07.35HjalteYea, found out, thanks daemona ;)
19:08.00HjalteWarlocks should have their immolate renamed immolation imo..
19:10.56AmadeoI still want green fire
19:11.10Amadeothere are mobs in SM that have green fire
19:11.13Amadeoand it's called Fel something
19:11.26add\\LeialynFel Fireball ?
19:11.30Amadeothat may be it
19:11.37AmadeoWarlock fire spells should be green
19:13.14Amadeoit makes sense
19:13.25Amadeoat least with the other stuff in the game
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19:16.12neeneeagreed
19:16.29neeneepurple/green
19:16.55Q6im done, im done playing a priest.
19:17.01Q6im sick of everyone using me lol
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19:17.46Amadeough, wtf is wrong with my CDR drive
19:19.36Amadeospins up and down when trying to burn
19:19.39Amadeodoesn't burn..
19:19.39Gnarfozfire is red/yellow. not green >_>
19:20.01AmadeoGnarfoz: There are Draenei in real life
19:20.20Gnarfozthere are oO
19:20.27Amadeohaha
19:20.51Q6anyone got photoshop cs2? i have 8.0cs not sure if upgrade worth it
19:21.20Gnarfozps9 vs ps8? not a big difference I'd say... but then, I'm not a professional graphics dude
19:23.16SarozRatingBuster has to be a god damn poor example of an Ace2 mod
19:24.49Gnarfozy?
19:25.09Sarozcause it sucks bad codewise?
19:25.19Gnarfozhow?
19:25.20Gnarfoz>_>
19:25.33SarozIt's not optimized, at all
19:25.54neeneechemical burns can be colored
19:26.03neeneeI do Q6, but I am not sure how it compares.
19:27.14CIA-1703kagaro * r22121 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: Added a zone level broadcast for herb/ore notes to guild and raid/party
19:29.38Amadeomaybe my CDR drive is doing this because of media it doesn't like
19:29.52Mikmanoteshare?
19:29.53Mikmawhat's that?
19:32.44kergothmy question would be, do those notes which are broadcasted end up in the herbalism notes db, or the main one?
19:32.47kergothmerry xmas all
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19:35.01neeneeAnd to you as well :)
19:38.08Fisker-y helo thar?
19:38.56XogxogAnyone know if oCD is borken?
19:39.38Fisker-borken ftw
19:39.42Xogxog'Cause it's not seeing my cooldowns. :/
19:39.43kergothXogxog, seems to be at times, the other day it was showing a timer for kidney shot when i hit evasion and shit, but other times it seems fine
19:39.44XogxogTruly.
19:39.58kergothmake sure you have those items on your actionbars, it doesnt scan the spellbook
19:41.09XogxogI do. :/
19:42.15XogxogOn my hunter it works for my pet's ablities.. but not for my own.
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19:43.02Argolasan ace version of lootlonk exist?
19:43.09Argolaslike ludwig
19:43.19Argolasand ludwig sellvalue
19:43.30kergothludwig is not like lootlink. lootlink maintains its own database, ludwig browses the client item cache
19:43.30XogxogLike ludwig but not ludwig?
19:43.37kergothand ludwig sellvalue works fine, as does ludwig
19:43.39kergothyou dont need to replace them.
19:43.56HjalteHmm. is it an addon or the game that blocks me from killing myself with life tap on my lvl 7 warlock?
19:44.06Argolasludwig don't work in wow 2.0
19:44.13GngskHjalte, the game
19:44.14XogxogLudwig works fine for me.
19:44.14kergothyes, it does.
19:44.17kergothi use ludwig daily
19:44.25Hjaltegngsk: umm, you can't kill yourself?
19:44.27kergothdid you create the cache dir per the instructions on various forums?
19:44.34snurrenerf ckk's lag on wcradio :p
19:44.36GngskHjalte, lifetap requires life to be cast it's like an invert of mana
19:44.43kergothif you didnt, the client probably isnt creating its cache at all, so ludwig's list will be small
19:44.49GngskHjalte, so if you don't have the life, you can't cast it
19:44.52sergiowhen you don't have health it says fizzle
19:44.57HjalteAh.. Thanks gngsk
19:45.09sergioyou can kill yourself with hellfire though
19:45.12Argolascan u link me a downloadable version of ludwig
19:45.15Argolas?
19:45.33XogxogAren't you able to kill yourself with Lifetap if you have the exact amount of health required to cast it, though? ;P Say 45 health and lifetap costs 45.
19:45.41basssehey guys does anyone have some time to help med with ace?
19:45.45kergothmake sure your wow dir has a Cache\WDB\[your locale] dir, like Cache\WDB\enUS
19:46.25XogxogArgolas, what kind of problem are you having with ludwig in 2.0 that makes you say it doesn't work, btw?
19:46.51Argolasyes in the addons page ludwing is "incompatible"
19:46.58Hjaltebassse, you ask
19:47.41bassseeuhm
19:47.46bassseI just want to output text
19:47.46Gngskdoes Ludwig_SellValue give you prices for quest items so you can see which one you should get if you're going to v3ndor?
19:47.47bassseonscreen
19:47.59basssebut have no idea of which function to look for
19:48.06XogxogArgolas, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5174-Ludwig.html
19:48.16Argolastnx mate
19:49.04KemayoHjalte: I think that error you put in pastey should be fixed.  Haven't tested it, though.
19:49.04XogxogGngsk, I think it does if you've tried to sell 'em before.. so.. I guess that'd be a 'not really'.
19:49.45HjalteKemayo: I'm still getting errors with my warlock after updating an hour ago or so.. I'm not sure if they also apply to other classes.
19:50.54HjalteKemayo: http://ace.pastey.net/3990
19:51.30Gngskweab, ping
19:52.19CIA-1703kemayo * r22122 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Try to get rid of nil indexing error on 276.
19:53.07HjalteKemayo: Any plans to add support for adding quests to the tracker when you get them?
19:53.16kergothhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6584-DorjesHealingBars.html that looks nice
19:53.56ArrowmasterHjalte: thats built into the default interface
19:54.27HjalteArrowmaster: No, i think what is built-in is adding the quest to the tracker when an objective is attained. Not when getting the quest :)
19:54.35Arrowmasterah good point
19:55.07sTw`InsaOFFI'm working om something similar as those healing bars, except it's not required to have everyone to have it, just using target of targets
19:55.18SarozError: Target path does not exist  
19:55.21SarozSVN error
19:55.22Sarozwth?
19:56.07kergothhmm, do we get spellcast events for raid members, or just party members?
19:56.19sTw`InsaOFFraid too
19:57.02kergoththen its silly that those healing bars would require everyone to have it, no?
19:57.05kergothjust rely on the events
19:57.19InsaWell, for targetting stuff
19:57.20kergothmeh, headache
19:57.22Insalike c lickcasters
19:57.59kergothah good point
19:58.42InsaBut might be better to show what you can show imo, and when you get something different than expected, like with clickcasting, THEN you synch
19:59.46CIA-1703Tristan * r22123 10RaidAgent/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
19:59.46CIA-17RaidAgent:
19:59.46CIA-17- svn:keyword
20:00.02kergothtrue, if you know that person is assigned to healing the mt, then the bar would still be useful even if its target is technically unknown
20:00.08kergothmost likely anyway
20:02.44snurreok, this wcradio clip is a bit annoying :/
20:04.07Gngsksnurre, ckknight interview?
20:04.17snurreyeh, the stuff theyre talking about accounts being banned for no reason etc
20:04.23snurresadly they have no clue
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20:08.59Amadeothe Ubuntu Live CD worked for the most part, but eventually froze up
20:16.23SarozJust heard the Ace and CT interviews
20:16.24Sarozheh
20:16.44ag`I'd like to hear the CT interview
20:17.14Sarozit's there for download
20:17.44Gngskag`, is it not possible to hide aUF frames with :Hide() even when out of combat?
20:18.08GngskaUFplayer:Hide() isn't doing anything
20:18.52ag`Gngsk: no
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20:18.58AmadeoI want to hear the CT interview also
20:19.06Amadeowhere is that?
20:20.37Gngskag`, any particular reason why that is and how I should hide it if I want to with a 3rd party addon?
20:20.57CIA-1703Tristan * r22124 10RaidAgent/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
20:20.57CIA-17RaidAgent:
20:20.57CIA-17- svn:keywords again
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20:26.09axxobah, any good working mailmods except ct one?
20:26.32Kemayoaxxo: Bulkmail + ExpressMail.
20:26.53packetlssaxxo: i use gmail (rolled it back to when it existed)
20:27.39cynyri'
20:27.56axxothanks
20:27.56cynyri'm using bulkmail and expressmail, only miss the open all button
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20:28.26XogxogArgh.. why is Bartender3 not showing the right keybindings on the buttons? :/
20:29.07Gngskwhat's it showing?
20:29.10Gngsknothing or wrong thing?
20:29.54ckknighthey all
20:30.15ckknightso for Christmas, I got $450, 2 shirts, peanuts, and a sweater I had previously given away to the Salvation Army
20:30.16ckknightgood times
20:30.58axxobetter then what i got
20:32.05KemayoI got a Logitech G-15 keyboard. :D
20:32.17GngskI got the recipe for Greater Arcane Elixir!
20:32.23ckknightcool, Kemayo
20:32.35XogxogGnarfoz, showing the wrong thing.
20:32.39XogxogGngsk, even
20:33.24Gngskodd
20:33.26nevcairieli got a g15 last year
20:33.30KemayoDo paladins get any sort of attack bonus from intellect?
20:33.31nevcairielyou guys are behind :P
20:34.08Xogxognevcairiel, hilfe.
20:34.39Xogxognevcairiel, BT3's showing the wrong keybindings on my buttons, how do I fix eeet? ;P
20:34.47CIA-1703ckknight * r22125 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - now uses caching for most things (used before, but now it does moreso)
20:37.07ckknightanyone use Colloquy?
20:37.31Amadeonevcairiel: also some strange scaling with BT3...my Bar1 at 85% scale is a pixel or so larger than all the rest of my bars at the same scale (default UI scale)
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20:38.18jkwKemayo: No.
20:39.07HjalteKemayo: I havent gotten the errors since updating to newest questsfu
20:39.09jkwKemayo: Only Mana and spell critical rating, just as every mana user.
20:41.38KemayoI'm trying to work out why, on several swords, the one with the lowest dps in its tooltip but with +int is causing the character screen stats to show the highest dps.
20:44.16neeneeHm. I wonder if an addon to confirm spending honor/tokens would be easy to do
20:44.30neeneeAs it might be quite useful.
20:45.00jkwKemayo: A bug maybe?
20:46.08jkwneenee: Go a head and try it out. :-) Myself I've never gotten the guts to try LUA. The language looks so dirty, compared to what I'm used to in PHP. ><
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20:46.58kergothjkw, hahah, are you kidding?
20:47.08mupphmm
20:47.09kergothperl and php are disgusting compared to lua
20:47.10muppmight have been asked before
20:47.12muppbut what happend to all the otravi addons?
20:47.14muppoCD, oCB and oTweaks
20:47.16muppremoved from svn
20:47.31neeneejkw: Hm. I can try, I've used lua before, but not with World of Warcraft.
20:47.53kergothmupp, people other than haste/otravi were screwing with his addons, adding major features he didnt agree with and stuff, so he removed them.  he really shouldve just reverted and had clad adjust the write permission on them..
20:47.56kergothafaik
20:48.04muppah
20:48.05muppso drama
20:48.07mupphehe
20:48.09kergothyeap
20:48.13muppit even happends outside of wow
20:49.36Xogxogkergoth, what 'feature' was that?
20:49.54AmadeoI don't know if it belongs in oCB or not, but I did need a casting bar that was moveable :)
20:49.56kergothit gained enemy casting bar
20:50.13kergothpersonally i liked it being in antagonist, but antagonist's casting bar was flaky, didnt always pick it up
20:50.13XogxogOh yeah.
20:50.14neeneehm. EvPsets doesn't do much yet, does it?
20:50.57sergiowas the ecb poorly implemented
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20:51.56kergothsergio, in ocb? i highly doubt that was the issue, its just outside of ocb's intended scope, methinks
20:52.15kergothand regardless was a major feature implemented without asking the author, which is never good policy
20:53.17sergioshrug
20:53.24sergioi just want to see it
20:53.35sergioi don't want to debate the politics
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20:54.33jkwneenee: No.
20:54.46kergothhttp://www.lolitron.org/2006/12/24/mom-offers-250-and-a-blowjob-for-a-wii/
20:56.26ggilbert_Thank god I didn't get a wii for christmas.
20:57.04kergothhehe
20:57.23[Cu]Werikwts 2 wiis pm me
20:57.54Amadeodecent ass for a mom
20:57.56Amadeo;)
20:58.20[Cu]Werikeh, you mean you really checked that link?:)
20:58.23jkwEew.
20:58.35Stephmw[Cu]Werik: his crime was to admit it
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20:58.55sergiowhat do you mean eew
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20:59.06AmadeoOf course I did
20:59.13Tekkubdamnit I want my xmas Dr Who
20:59.22AmadeoTekkub: That new chat addon messes my chat up!
20:59.25Tekkubyou UK bastards, it aired yet?
20:59.29ggilbert_has it aired yet?
20:59.35Tekkub"messes up"?
21:00.10Amadeofirst it removed one of my chat windows, then it wouldn't let me unlock my main chat window...finally I was able to move my combat log again, but the tab was in the wrong place
21:00.29Amadeo:)
21:00.43*** join/#wowace Dekuna_ (n=masanbol@rrcs-24-173-35-93.sw.biz.rr.com)
21:01.24Tekkubfunny... it doesn't touch anything except setting the borders' :EnableMouse()
21:01.39jkwI could kill a wabbit for BT3's keybinding functions and more agUF themes.
21:01.44Amadeomaybe it's having some conflict with my main chat addon, I'll check it out later
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21:02.03Tekkubmaybe, try it without that
21:02.17Tekkubseriously, my mod's like 33 lines of code :P
21:02.21Tekkubit doesn't do much
21:02.28Amadeohehe ok
21:02.33Tekkub:P
21:02.38AmadeoI was just surprised
21:02.43Amadeoeven the borders looked darker on my frames
21:02.56Tekkubnow back to the real issue
21:03.02Tekkubwhere's my fucking Who?
21:03.04AmadeoDr. Who is on, but it's a rerun :P
21:03.06Amadeobrb
21:03.24ggilbert_Well is it a rerun of the Runaway Bride? :p
21:03.26Tekkubdamnit bobby
21:03.44Tekkubcan't you brits get anything right?
21:04.32Fisker-sup
21:08.45jkw114 addons, my ui never use more than 30mb. :]
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21:12.03ckknightjkw: lemme guess, using Ace?
21:12.57Amadeothere any addons like Prat, but not quite as big?
21:13.02AmadeoI miss idchat
21:13.10ckknightAmadeo: chop out some modules?
21:14.04nevcairieljust delete the files
21:14.07nevcairieland the functions are gone
21:14.15nevcairiel(at least that should happen)
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21:16.13Amadeowhat's with the mp3 file? lol
21:17.52jkwckknight: Trying to use 100% Ace'd AddOns.
21:18.02ckknightthat's what I use ;-)
21:18.04ckknighthehe
21:18.27jkwckknight: It's like 3-4 AddOns that I would really like to be Ace'd.
21:18.51Dranorhalf addons jkw, 50mb under high stress
21:19.02jkwThey dont really eat RAM though, buut still, they aren't Ace'd. ><
21:19.09Dranorsw_Stats user
21:19.29kergothi dont get this blind ace evangelistic crap.  if an addon is small and efficient, theres no point rewriting it, for ace or otherwise
21:20.08jkwkergoth: That was my point.
21:20.27Dranori'm not bound to the "everything must be ace" thing
21:20.31kergothreally? cause i saw you saying they should be ace'd
21:20.33ckknightkergoth's completely right
21:20.42kergothmaybe you should say what your point is, rather than saying things that dont reinforce your point, then
21:21.04jkwkergoth: Would be nice, yes. But they aren't eating RAM so they are usable anyway
21:21.14Dranorin fact it's absolutely silly
21:21.14kergothwhy would it be nice?
21:22.08ckknightso developers are going to get two new methods from AceEvent, :ScheduleLeaveCombatAction(func or "method", ...) and :ScheduleEnterCombatAction(func or "method", ...)
21:22.52jkwkergoth: It just would be nice?
21:23.04jkwAre you reading what I'm typing?
21:23.10kergothhere's an idea.  have some actual valid reasons for making assertions
21:23.16kergoththen you won't sound like you're talking out your ass.
21:23.24kergothcrazy idea, i know
21:24.16jkwerr
21:24.23jkwI'll just shut up.
21:25.04kergoththere are actual reasons to want something made ace2  even if it wont gain any explicit benefits, like gaining acedb's profiles or the ease of configuration that aceoptions/aceconsole/deucecommander gives you
21:25.11kergothso for next time someone asks, there you go, reasons
21:25.31kergothnot necessarily reasons with much merit in most cases, say ludwig, no real benefit to ace2 profiles for something like that
21:26.10ckknightit's quite possible that Ace2 _won't_ make your addon more efficient
21:26.16ckknightbut, it may make it easier to write
21:26.19AmadeoToo much holiday spirit in here!
21:26.27ckknightsuch as handling events for you and things like that
21:26.45ckknightand some things you wouldn't want to use Ace
21:26.50ckknightexample: !BugGrabber, TaintChecker
21:27.09kergothif you're gonna rewrite it -anyway-, to make it suck less, by all means use ace2 to make it easier, but there's no point rewriting every addon out there, quite a few are solid as is
21:27.19Dranori still remember ReagentCount
21:27.30Dranora simple addon that had less than 30 lines of code
21:27.38Dranorand worked flawessly
21:28.35Amadeo233 KIB with Prat
21:28.42Amadeonot too bad, that's with almost all the modules deleted though
21:28.42Dranorwhat would be the benefeit of being Ace'd?
21:29.06Amadeobut 114 KIB with ChatBox, and I like the features ChatBox has :)
21:30.34Amadeoafter having consolidated enchant frames, it's hard to live without it
21:30.59Pkekyodoes the autounstuck-system still exist?
21:31.31Amadeobah, company, bbl
21:32.11Gnarfoz'course, why wouldn't it, Pkekyo ^^
21:33.10PkekyoI can't find it anymore
21:33.22Pkekyoand I'm stuck inbetween two bloody frickin trees!
21:33.54CIA-1703ckknight * r22126 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua:
21:33.54CIA-17.AceEvent-2.0:
21:33.55CIA-17- added :ScheduleLeaveCombatAction(func or "method", ...)
21:33.55CIA-17- added :ScheduleEnterCombatAction(func or "method", ...)
21:33.55CIA-17- added :CancelAllCombatSchedules()
21:34.50CIA-1703Tristan * r22127 10RaidAgent/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
21:34.50CIA-17RaidAgent:
21:34.50CIA-17- Added so it selects a default talent to show rather then empty
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21:35.53GnarfozPkekyo: it's in the GM menu
21:36.13Gnarfozskip the FAQ, click 'open a ticket' on the bottom left, first category is 'stuck'
21:36.15Gnarfozit's in there :)
21:36.35hyperChipmunkStuck() used to work
21:37.05Mikmamoo
21:44.04CIA-1703nirek * r22128 10Evpsets/Evpsets.lua: Evpsets: adding data, ty Shadowmx, Overfiend
21:46.41CIA-1703ckknight * r22129 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua:
21:46.41CIA-17.AceEvent-2.0:
21:46.42CIA-17- :ScheduleLeaveCombatAction will now call the method instantly if out of combat.
21:46.42CIA-17note: :ScheduleEnterCombatAction will error if called in combat
21:48.55Mikmahah good ol' ckknight
21:49.10Mikma"fuck the christmas, let's code shit!"
21:51.29snurrehttp://www.wowinsider.com/media/2006/12/sebspeakerwg2.jpg  <3
21:52.39ckknightlol, Mikma
21:53.58Gngskheh, the AE one is my fav
21:54.10Mikmawell it's the truth :)
22:01.05CIA-1703Tristan * r22130 10RaidAgent/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
22:01.05CIA-17RaidAgent:
22:01.05CIA-17- Update dewdrop and FuBar rightclick menu
22:05.30MikmaWhat's that evpsets?
22:05.42Gngskshows junk you can buy with honor points
22:06.16Mikmaoh, that's useless
22:06.56XogxogArgh..
22:06.57Mikmaso... What's that Focus-frame everyone is talking about?
22:07.00XogxogCan anyone recommend a good actionbar mod?
22:07.31kovibartender3 trinity and bongos are the big ones :>
22:07.53XogxogBT3's not behaving, os I'm trying to find a replacement. :/
22:08.18koviworks fine for me
22:08.27kovibut lot's of people like trinity
22:08.29GngskMikma, /target Mikma /focus
22:08.30kovinever tried it though
22:09.10Mikmanot behaving?
22:09.16Mikmayou must do something nasty :P
22:09.31XogxogI'm switching form to Cat and it won't change the actionbar. ;P
22:09.49XogxogBear works fine.. Cat doesn't. Checked the settings and Bear's set to bar 9.. cat's bar 7..
22:09.55Xogxog'Cept.. it won't.. switch.
22:10.05XogxogAnd the keybindings it's showing on the keys are wrong. :/
22:10.09XogxogSo yeah.. not behaving.
22:10.27nevcairieli really dont understand why people dont do their aquatic form quest
22:10.43MikmaWTB freaking GMail / something
22:10.55Xogxognevcairiel, I just did the first half of it. ;P
22:11.02nevcairieldo the second half
22:11.05nevcairieland your cat form will work
22:11.22XogxogWhat about the keybindings showing?
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22:11.39nevcairieldefine wrong
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22:11.52CIA-1703Tristan * r22131 10RaidAgent/common/Localization.lua:
22:11.52CIA-17RaidAgent:
22:11.53CIA-17- Clarified that Special is a menu for what to show in tooltip in the menu, hopefully it makes more sense now :)
22:11.54nevcairieltechnically, it cannot be wrong
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22:12.19nevcairielsince it scans for "CLICK BT3ButtonXX" .. and that button receives the click
22:12.52Heriofubar plugin library's auto detection of simple minimap's square config is broken =(
22:13.13CIA-1703ckknight * r22132 10Cartographer/Modules/Coordinates.lua: Cartographer-Coordinates - show distance between cursor and player in yards (or meters for you crazy foreigners)
22:13.24Mikmahaha
22:13.26Mikmagooo ckknight
22:13.26ckknightHerio: fix it
22:13.38ckknightbasically, I just check LOCALE_enUS
22:13.40Herioi don't have SVN access
22:13.46ckknightif it's true, you use yards
22:13.48ckknightelse, use meters
22:13.53XogxogWell.. I got a button bound to '1' but it's showing 'q'. I look in my keybindings and I haven't go 'q' bound to anything (I had before, though). ;P
22:13.54ckknightHerio: make a patch, I'll commit it
22:13.58Heriok
22:14.01Xogxognevcairiel, so I've no idea.
22:14.13CIA-1703kagaro * r22133 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: Cartographer_Noteshare: Added support for POI sharing
22:14.15Herioso a diff file?
22:14.24ckknightyea
22:14.29nevcairieldoes pressing q click that button tho?
22:14.32mjcdiff -ru
22:14.55Heriosounds simplisticly complicated
22:14.56Xogxognevcairiel, yeah, it does.
22:14.58Herioi'll get right on it
22:15.23Mikmackknight: what's noteshare? :D
22:15.24mjcPOI has a thingy in deucecommander
22:15.25CIA-1703ckknight * r22134 10Cartographer/Modules/Coordinates.lua: Cartographer-Coordinates - yards is yd, not y
22:15.27mjclooks pointless
22:15.27FryGuyckknight: is there a way to conveniently add a note at the current player position?
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22:15.37ckknightMikma: talk to kagaro
22:15.48ckknightFryGuy: /note x, y
22:15.51Mikmackknight: i meant have you tested it?
22:15.52Gngsk/note ftw
22:15.56ckknightMikma: nope
22:15.57FryGuythat's not convenient :p
22:16.02ckknightFryGuy: guess not.
22:16.03Gngskpfft, it's quite convenient!
22:16.04nevcairielXogxog: its not really wrong then, is it ? :D rebind Q to something else, or unbind it, and it will disappear
22:16.07ckknightFryGuy: meh.
22:16.22FryGuycould it just default to the current position if you leave them blank?
22:16.53mjcand I see instanceloot on the thing but there is no loot
22:16.54ckknightFryGuy: leaving em blank shows the usage
22:17.11Gngskwhat about like /note char
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22:17.23Gngskor /note player
22:17.28nevcairieldefault to current position with some argument would be good tho
22:17.34FryGuyyes i know
22:17.36Gngskyea, that's what I'm getting at
22:17.37Mikmackknight: and i don't have courage to test it, since i think it will nuke me out from game all the time like sharing notes does :D
22:17.42Xogxognevcairiel, it is wrong 'cause nowhere in my BT3 options or the Blizzard keybindings option menu is that key bound to 'q'. :/
22:17.49FryGuybut i said is there a convenient way to make the notes where the player is :p
22:18.02ckknightMikma: *shrug*
22:18.09mjcMikma: ckk doesn't write shitty code
22:18.09SarozSomeone needs to make a freaking mod to remove the world map button, cartographer could do it maybe?
22:18.14XogxogBut yeah, binding some other button to 'q' 'fixes' it.. but there's a lot of buttons and I'm getting grumpy. ;P Fudge it.
22:18.17ckknightno, Saroz
22:18.26nevcairielSaroz: Squeenix can do it :)
22:18.29Sarozoooooh
22:18.30Saroznice
22:18.32Saroznp then
22:18.33Mikmamjc: he doesn't? *shocked*
22:18.47mjcoh!
22:18.53mjcinstancenotesloot wants PT-2
22:18.59Gngskwhat about a fubar plugin that can show/hide put it on the panel, etc
22:19.07Gngskthe map button that is
22:19.16ckknightmjc: it's not my code.
22:19.21nevcairielwho needs the stupid button anyway
22:19.26nevcairieljust press M
22:19.27nevcairiel:D
22:19.28mjcah
22:19.41GngskM is bound to a macro that does /naked /dance
22:19.42Saroznevcairiel, uhm, how
22:20.22ckknightis there some I way I can turn off on macs the Ctrl-mousewheel zoom thing?
22:20.28mjcyeah
22:20.34mjcsec
22:20.47Saroznevcairiel, found it -.-
22:20.58mjckeyboard and mouse pref pane
22:21.15mjcno, sorry
22:21.38ckknightthanks, mjc
22:21.45Teomyrum
22:21.47ckknightnow it's cmd-mousewheel
22:21.59ckknightbtw, mjc, do you use Colloquy?
22:22.09Teomyrwho's in charge of the german localization of Cartographer's InstanceNotes?
22:22.10mjcckknight: occasionally
22:22.13mjcuse irssi more
22:22.15mjchttp://quicksilver.blacktree.com
22:22.24ckknightI use QS
22:22.36ckknightI detached a window from Colloquy, don't know how to reattach
22:22.54mjcgrab the tab
22:23.02mjchave to ahve always show tab ba
22:23.04mjcbar
22:26.31MikmaIrssi <3
22:28.05mjcckknight: get macports also, and don't forget to edit the sources list :)
22:29.37KemayoAny way to make a macro cast something if it's not cooling down, or something else if that's not ready yet?
22:30.05Gngsknope
22:30.23nevcairielnop
22:30.27MikmaWTB KCMail
22:30.33MikmaKaelten: make us a KCMail :D
22:30.47Teomyrwouldn't /cast Spell1 followed by a /cast Spell2 work?
22:30.48CodayusKemayo: Best you can do is /castsequence with a reset clause.  For a few things, that's enough.  :-)
22:35.17snurre23:30:03: You create [Alterac Valley Mark of Honor]x3
22:35.27snurre23:33:53: You create [Alterac Valley Mark of Honor]x3
22:35.29snurre:p
22:35.32snurrethat was sweet
22:36.23Mikmahah
22:36.27Mikmafast
22:36.38Mikmayou got some addon that logs chat?
22:36.57snurrenah, just typed it from the loot log
22:37.23Mikmaokie
22:38.14tlundsnurre: what does "snurre" mean in french? :)
22:38.20snurrein french? uh
22:38.22snurreno clue
22:38.24Mikmahey, dudes, what's a good addon to replace GMail?
22:38.31AmadeoCT_MailMod
22:38.31Amadeohaha
22:38.33snurrectmailmod?
22:38.41Amadeosame addon
22:38.42tlundsnurre: you are connected to the IRC-server from a french internet connection? AVelizy-153-1-75-89.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr
22:38.42Amadeoapparently :P
22:38.49snurretlund: yea, i live in france
22:38.58tlundsnurre: ah, ok, but not from there? :)
22:39.07Mikmai said GOOD addon damnit Amadeo!
22:39.15snurretlund: no, norwegian
22:39.19AmadeoMikma: But Gmail == CT_MailMod :P
22:39.21kergothMikma, gmail was a copy of ct_mailmod, few differences :P
22:39.36Mikmakergoth: yes but it was ace2 mehehe
22:39.43Amadeonow you've done it
22:39.43tlundsnurre: that explains it. :) a friend of mine has "snurre" as his nickname, and we are swedish..
22:39.48kergothdont get me started
22:39.51Amadeorofl
22:39.52tlundsnurre: thats the reason i asked, heh
22:40.15Mikma~emulate mikma
22:40.18purlNivFreak is an assclown.
22:40.18snurremore and more people are ninjaing my nick :(
22:41.33Mikmakergoth: don't worry, if i say "but it's ace2" it's propably a joke :)
22:41.38Mikma~literal emulate mikma
22:41.40purl"emulate mikma" is "(<action>is an assclown. | <reply>I like cake. | <reply>$randnick is an assclown. | <reply>Industrial loves manboobs! | <reply>$randnick: Make it Ace2 |<reply>$randnick: It's broken, fix it! |<reply>I love copypaste|<reply>with penis sized as firehose)"
22:41.40snurrei feel ive missed some drama? :p
22:41.49kergoththat was amusing, i was eating a sandwich with one hand and typing kergoth into google with the other, so typoed it as kergotj, and found an irc log of someone typoing it as kergotj
22:41.51Mikma<PROTECTED>
22:41.56Mikmagah!
22:41.59Mikmaspoiled :(
22:42.07Mikma<reply>$randnick: Make it Ace2 .. <-
22:42.13Mikmathis is what i meant to paste
22:42.13kergothhehe
22:42.16Amadeokergoth: I'm more interested in what type of sandwich it is
22:42.31kergothpeanut butter and jelly ftw, hadnt had one of those in a long time
22:42.38Amadeobest sandwich there is
22:42.40Mikmaclassic sandwitch
22:42.49kergothhhe, i need a personal web site
22:42.59kergothall the first google results are my user pages on various other sites
22:42.59Mikmawww.kergothowns.us
22:43.20kergoththen it starts into the irc logs, gods there are lots of those
22:44.16Mikmaso CT_MailMod you say...
22:44.29Gngskkemayo said something about BulkMail + ExpressMail
22:44.35Gngskmaybe you should check that out
22:44.35Amadeothat works too, probably
22:44.47Gngsk~seen tem
22:45.05purltem <n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 7h 58m 45s ago, saying: '1x[asston]'.
22:45.05Mikmai tried some of ace2 mailmods some time ago. didn't like em
22:45.06ZiconBulkmail is <3
22:45.15ckknightTeomyr: no, it halts on the first failure
22:45.24Gnarfoz<tlund> snurre: you are connected to the IRC-server from a french internet connection? AVelizy-153-1-75-89.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr <-- velizy? aint that where blizzard europe is located? oO
22:45.56snurreyeah, but i live in versailles
22:46.01snurremy isp has hq in velizy i think
22:46.45mjcwanadoo is the source of 99.7% of all spam attacks on my company's mailservers :P
22:46.56snurrewanna do is SHIT
22:46.56Mikmackknight: i got a nice project for you
22:47.02kenlyricwanadoo is a giant bot nework.
22:47.04Mikmackknight: knightmail!
22:47.10snurrei want to change isp, but i dont know the language, so im stuck :p
22:47.21ckknightMikma: I don't like attaching your name to a project, it makes it seem pretentious.
22:47.27mjchahah
22:47.31tlundGnarfoz: velizy is just a part of paris
22:47.31kenlyricburn!
22:47.38snurrei guess the consolation is that every single french isp sucks goat balls
22:47.43Mikmackknight: yeah i know, you've always been like that :)
22:47.44ckknighte.g. CT, o, id, KC
22:47.45ggilbert_s/french//
22:47.46Amadeosnurre: You should just get someone to help you :)
22:47.48KaeltenMikma: whats wrong with gmail?
22:47.48tlundGnarfoz: and yes, two of the five europeean datacenters are in paris
22:47.58MikmaKaelten: it doesn't exist? :O
22:47.58snurreAmadeo: i know, i know.. but still
22:48.00snurreit's effort :p
22:48.02Gnarfoztlund: (never said anything about velizy not being a part of paris :D)
22:48.10KaeltenMikma: sure it does :P
22:48.16kenlyrici'm with you on that one snurre. Effort is FTL.
22:48.25ckknightmjc: how do I turn off the close button deal on the tabs? I keep pressing it accidentally (Colloquy)
22:48.43MikmaKaelten: i thought it was deleted?
22:48.43KaeltenMikma: didn't you know that?
22:49.07KaeltenMikma: ya the files where deleted off the svn at whatever revision which caused the link to disapear off the files page
22:49.09snurretlund: you seem to know an awful lot about this place? :p
22:49.30mjcshrug I just never use the mouse
22:49.32tlundsnurre: i work for a big ISP (no, not telia)
22:49.33MikmaKaelten: interesting workaround
22:49.42mjccmd-arrows
22:49.48snurreah, that explains it
22:49.57MikmaKaelten: so what revision should i get to use it?
22:49.58ZOAS|zzzzzmailmod name ideas: Dispatch.  Postal.  LetterBox.  RingTwice.
22:49.59tlundGnarfoz: i think one of the sites is telecity in Courbevoie, but i am not sure :(
22:50.04AmadeoDo addons have to be coded differently for use on a Mac?
22:50.06tlundGnarfoz: they dont really want to say :)
22:50.10mjcAmadeo: fuck no
22:50.13Gnarfozheh they don't ^^
22:50.14Amadeowhat about keys?
22:50.18Gnarfozbut it's obvious one is in Frankfurt, too
22:50.19mjc?
22:50.25KaeltenZealotOnAStick: g'mornin
22:50.27tlundZealotOnAStick: RingTwice is good! :)
22:50.39AmadeoI thought Apple had some different keys, I don't even know which they have and don't as far as Control/Alt, etc
22:50.39tlundZealotOnAStick: maby even "ring2" then? ;)
22:50.48snurreeven i dont know exactly where in paris they are, but i dont really care as long as im sitting at <30 ping
22:50.54mjcoption = alt, cmd = meta
22:50.54ZealotOnAStickI like "Postal" myself, but just throwing out ideas.
22:51.00Amadeoah ok
22:51.12KaeltenMikma: I'm going to asssist/do the rewrite if I have to.
22:51.32ZealotOnASticktlund - yeah.  I thought of typing "Deuce-spatch" but thought it was entirely too hokey.
22:51.44MikmaKaelten: well that would be great :) since there are no files in GMail trunk and i don't know the revision i need a new mailmod now :P
22:51.44Gnarfozlol
22:52.14CIA-1703ckknight * r22135 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua:
22:52.14CIA-17.AceEvent-2.0:
22:52.14CIA-17- removed :ScheduleEnterCombatAction, use PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED instead to make changes.
22:52.24AmadeoI might try Bulkmail and ExpressMail, since people keep talking about them
22:52.58GngskI'm using GMail, don't plan on switching :)
22:52.59ZealotOnAStickI'd give a GMail/CTMailMod replacement a try myself, if I was insane and totally oblivious of the fact that it'd be entirely too ambitious a project for me at my novice stage.
22:53.27snurrewhy are everyone so eager to get rid of gmail all of a sudden?
22:53.42ckknightsnurre: copyright violations
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22:53.47Gnarfozsnurre: you could just use CT_MailMod and there'd be no difference
22:53.48ZealotOnAStickCan anyone point me to a summary of how precisely I set externals on SVN?  I've clearly missed something somewhere.
22:54.17AmadeoGngsk: I used to use Gmail, but I wasn't aware that it was just copy/pasted code from CT_MailMod
22:54.25snurreim content with what im using, but im just wondering why everyone wants a replacement, as ctmailmod isnt good enough
22:54.29Amadeothough I never thought it was better or worse, I just used it
22:54.46snurrethings you can update through WAU > anything else
22:54.48snurreeod.
22:55.05Gngskin the original gmail thread it was quite obviously stated that it was a CT_MailMod port to Ace
22:55.13AmadeoWell, honestly, while I can understand why Cide was angry, I didn't like how he handled things in here, so that's one reason I don't want to use CT_MM :)
22:55.38ckknightAmadeo: note: he never contacted grennon about it first.
22:55.47ckknightthat's what I'd do first
22:55.58Gnarfozso... you used ct_mm while it was called gmail, but you don't want to use ct_mm now? that's weird :p
22:56.06ckknightthen if he didn't remove it by himself, talk to wowace and such
22:56.12Amadeockknight: I agree
22:56.16ckknightGnarfoz: ideology's sake
22:56.38AmadeoGnarfoz: At the time, I wasn't aware it was just a code copy
22:56.50Gngskit's not like grennon ported it posted it on all the UI sites, it was just kinda chillin' and people used it
22:56.56snurrewell, the copy i have of gmail still works so ill just continue to use it until it breaks
22:57.16Kaeltenit'll have a new version before it comes to that snurre :P
22:57.28snurreim sure it will
22:57.38snurreas long as its updated through WAU i wouldnt notice anyway :p
23:02.16snurrehttp://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9182/avft8.jpg
23:02.34Amadeohah
23:02.35Amadeoawesome
23:02.39ckknightsnurre: you got 6?
23:02.45snurretwo AVs
23:02.50snurrewon, entered a winning, won again
23:02.55ckknightlol.
23:03.02AmadeoI love that
23:03.11CIA-1703mikma * r22136 10/trunk/ (FuBar_PerfectRaidFu/ Fubar_PerfectRaidFu/): FuBar_PerfectRaidFu: Fubar -> FuBar
23:03.26snurreused to happen quite often back in "the days", but now horde almost never win at all, so
23:03.39Gngsksnurre, is that henge? how'd you move the buttons like that?
23:03.59snurregot 92% wins in AB, 72% in WSG and 12% in AV
23:04.05snurrewhat buttons?
23:04.10Gngskhealthstone etc
23:04.27snurrethe ones on left are necrosis, the ones on top are bt3 with cycircled
23:04.35Gngskahh, k
23:04.54snurretoo bad cycircled doesnt work for my petbar :(
23:05.27Gngskmeh
23:05.31Gngskdreamlayout ftw
23:05.36neeneeagreed ;)
23:05.49AmadeoI like zoomed buttons the best
23:06.04snurreused square, borderless, zoomed buttons
23:06.15snurrebut after 2.0 i tried cycircled and loved it
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23:06.36Mikmawell, i too did like cycircled with pre 2.0
23:06.42Mikma(when it worked with bt2 perfectly)
23:07.01Gngskall I need is dreamlayout for itemrack and autorack
23:07.46Mikmameh
23:07.51Mikmawhy don't you code it then? :)
23:08.17AmadeoI'm not sure what AutoRack does...it just looks like bag buttons that I could set up on my own
23:08.36ckknightbrb
23:08.43Gngskit's like autobar
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23:08.52Amadeobut you have to put specific items in
23:08.59Amadeoright?
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23:09.03Mikmackknight: that was fast
23:09.07Gngsknot really
23:09.13GngskI use it exactly the way I used autobar pre-2.0
23:09.16ckknightMikma: changing IRC settings
23:09.23Amadeohm
23:09.33Karnmerry xmas all
23:09.37Karnexcept ckknight
23:09.38AmadeoGngsk: Can you send me your SV file for it? :)
23:09.44Karn:P
23:09.55Gngskuh
23:09.56Karnhey ... i'm feeling generous, even ckknight deserves some love today
23:10.16Gngskit's not that hard to setup, /autorack opt
23:10.22Gngskthen drag the junk you want into the spot
23:10.30AmadeoGngsk: The problem is having the junk in your bags to set it up with :P
23:10.31Gngskit's missing some things autobar had though
23:10.43ckknight... Karn :-(
23:10.44Gngsklike, categories for all food/drink etc
23:10.53Karnyou know i love you really ckk
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23:11.23Fisker-anyone remember the command to print out a mouseovered frame?
23:11.33MikmaGetMouseFocus?
23:11.47Gngsk/print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
23:11.55AmadeoGngsk: How does it select one item over another? Such as a Healthstone over a Health Potion?
23:12.09GngskThe order in the option window, I believe
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23:12.13AmadeoI see
23:12.24ckknightbrb
23:12.26AmadeoI just wish it didn't use bag slots
23:12.30Fisker-winner Mikma
23:12.30AmadeoI like to plow my bags
23:12.31Gngskyou can click on an item and move it using some arrows
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23:12.41GngskAmadeo, it has to otherwise it wouldn't work
23:12.45TheKarnwelcome back ckknight
23:12.47Gngskit's an awesome workaround though
23:13.02AmadeoGngsk: I'll have to play with it more then
23:13.11Gngskcan't you tell MrPlow to ignore a bag?
23:13.14AmadeoI don't really like the new AutoBar
23:14.03MikmaHaha! Cartograpgher_Hotspot Semi-crashes wow on Mac :D
23:14.21AmadeoYou have a Mac too, Mikma?
23:14.35MikmaAmadeo: yeah, been playing wow with if for almost 2 years
23:14.46Amadeodamn, everyone has a Mac now
23:14.56ckknightwho all has a mac?
23:15.18ckknightI do, Mikma, ag` does
23:15.34TheKarnif i did i'd use it as a doorstop
23:15.41Amadeomjc has one, I know that :P
23:16.12ckknightTheKarn: lol
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23:16.33TheKarnspeaking of macs ... you ordered yours yet ckk?
23:16.59ckknightTheKarn: it's on my lap
23:17.05ckknightkeeping me warm
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23:17.19Fisker-can i change the property of a staticpopup on the fly?
23:17.35ckknightyea, Fisker-, but you have to reshow it to show the change
23:17.36Mikmahttp://www.partanen.net/perjantai/060/ <- wait for the video, not the commercials :D
23:17.55Fisker-so how would i go about doing that?
23:18.39Gnarfoz_Mikma: further proof that the internet is full of absolutely weird shit :D
23:18.53MikmaGnarfoz_: did you look at the ass or the video? ;)
23:18.58Gnarfoz_video, of course
23:19.08Kirkburnckknight, did you do any more to CF2?
23:19.27ckknightKirkburn: yea, I made the dynamic font changing run across several frames
23:19.38ckknighti.e. no freezing that way
23:19.45KirkburnYou bin busy!
23:20.26Aileen_I have 2 Macs :)
23:20.34ckknightKirkburn's a machead too...
23:20.44AmadeoThe last time I used a Mac, it was in Elementary school
23:20.45Mikmatekkub had brainfart
23:20.50Amadeoand it wasn't even a Mac yet!
23:20.52ckknightokay, weird, Kirkburn, it's not working anymore...
23:20.53Amadeoit was just an Apple IIe
23:21.07Aileen_one of them is my work server though
23:21.12Kirkburnckknight, what's not working?
23:21.29Aileen_I work at home and I use a Mini as my web/database server :)
23:21.31ckknightKirkburn: the dynamic font deal
23:21.32ckknighthrm
23:21.37Kirkburnack
23:21.44KirkburnPlease =)
23:22.11AmadeoI want to see what Apple announces at MacWorld
23:22.53MikmaArkInventory needs to get some hooking-love
23:23.02Fisker-indeed
23:23.06Fisker-needs lot of love still :P
23:23.19Fisker-looking forward to new releases though
23:23.38Mikmayeap
23:24.22Mikmadoesn't even recognize Soul Shards atm :P
23:25.47Kaeltenckknight: so after a few days should I buy a apple?
23:26.03ckknightKaelten: really, I'm quite pleased with my Mac
23:26.12MikmaKaelten: an apple in a day keeps the doctor away ;)
23:26.18ckknightboth price-wise and usability-wise
23:26.40Kaeltenwhich one did youg et mac book pro?
23:26.44Mikmaonce you get the hang of it, it's quite fast without mouse too
23:28.28Kaeltenoh ckknight do we have a server profile yet?
23:28.56ckknightKaelten: server profile?
23:29.13ckknightI got the MacBook Pro 2.16 GHz, 1 Gig RAM, 128 MiB video
23:29.16ckknightyou know what's so amazing?
23:29.20ckknightWoW runs smooth
23:29.25ckknightI can actually "play"
23:30.07Kaeltenckknight: ya we talked about the server profile a few days back for non factioned realm data
23:30.25ckknightoh, right
23:30.26ckknightwill add
23:30.57*** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net)
23:31.10Kaeltenhehe, k
23:31.30Kaeltenckknight: did you buy it from apple?
23:31.34neeneeHm. Is 'Lute' like 'FruityLoots'?
23:31.37KemayoThe memory leak does seem like it might be RosterLib-related.  I disabled everything using Roster, and it's not happening any more.
23:31.46ckknightKaelten: went down to the Apple Store in person and just bought it there
23:31.57Kaeltenah, where at?
23:32.03CIA-1703dafire * r22137 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
23:32.03CIA-17Babble-2.2:
23:32.04CIA-17- updated deDE of spell Silencing Shot
23:33.07MikmaMBP has such an powerful GFX card :(
23:33.08ckknightKaelten: at the mall
23:33.19navvmy MBP arrives wednesday :/
23:33.31navvoriginally was supposed to come last week but they had some hiccup at the store
23:33.35Gnarfoz_http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe xD
23:33.35Kaeltenckknight: hehe, I don't think they have one of those anywhere near me
23:33.42ckknightKaelten: :-P
23:33.47ckknightoh well
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23:37.05Heriockk
23:37.05KirkburnUseless router ... any luck ckk? =)
23:37.13KirkburnStop copying me!
23:37.19Heriopre emptive
23:37.23MikmaStop copying me!
23:37.23Heriolike the bush i am
23:37.23Kirkburnstrike
23:37.26Mikmastrike
23:37.31KirkburnMikma
23:37.34MikmaMikma
23:37.43KirkburnamkiM
23:37.55Kirkburnhah!
23:38.01Kaeltenhah!
23:38.18DrZoothas anyone else noticed that the background blizzard downloader kills there router after a couple of hours?
23:38.21Kaelten:P
23:38.22KirkburnKaelten smells
23:38.32KaeltenKirkburn smells
23:38.41KirkburnNo, Kaelten smells
23:38.45Mikmakenlyric smells
23:38.57Kirkburnpurl, Kaelten really smells
23:39.06KaeltenNo, Kirkburn likes to wear flowers in his hair
23:39.14Heriogawd
23:39.15ckknightKirkburn: yea, I got it working
23:39.20KirkburnHey, it makes me look refined!
23:39.20Heriogo back to #preschool
23:39.22Mikmahah! hippie Kirkburn!
23:39.23ckknightKirkburn: fault on my side, didn't revert a change
23:39.26ckknightbut I found a fix anyway
23:39.29KirkburnWoo
23:39.44KaeltenHerio: :P
23:40.14Mikmasomeone sohuld punish Herio, hard.
23:40.15CIA-1703ckknight * r22138 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2 - optimization
23:40.25Heriockk: did you get my /msgs?
23:40.31Kirkburnlol, "optimization"
23:40.43Heriopunish, what for?
23:40.45Mikmaoptimization as deleting?
23:40.53ckknightMikma: no
23:40.56ckknightHerio: no
23:41.00Heriok
23:41.02Herioi have the patch
23:41.06ckknighthooray
23:41.08ckknightace.pastey.net
23:41.12Heriokk
23:41.15CIA-1703progman * r22139 10HealOrganizer3/ (3 files):
23:41.15CIA-17HealOrganizer3:
23:41.15CIA-17- Added some code so far...
23:41.27Herioit was pretty simple, but i did it whilst scrubbing up some PVP
23:41.34Heriothen my account expired, so all was well!
23:41.45ckknightexcuses, excuses
23:42.18*** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net)
23:42.34KirkburnSodding thing!
23:42.35CIA-1703saroz * r22140 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Set self.enabled to false when disabling the mod, so we re-register events upon re-enabling.
23:43.04ckknightpurl sucks
23:43.06purlonly if you ask nicely and pay well.
23:43.08Heriohttp://ace.pastey.net/3992
23:43.12KirkburnI knew, just as I typed my 'praise' of ckk, I was gonna dc :/ Lag rising, rising, rising, rising, rising, oh, there we go
23:43.20ckknightlol
23:43.33Herioif the diff isn't proper, then i can make a new one, it's my first diff ever lol
23:43.38KirkburnMy XChat doesn't like praise of ckk ;)
23:44.10ckknightHerio: I know your name now!
23:44.10ckknighthaha
23:44.16ckknight"Kevin"
23:44.20ckknightnow I have the power!
23:44.26Herioyeah yeah
23:44.31ckknightKirkburn: I'm quite liking Colloquy....
23:44.43KirkburnTook me all of two seconds to find his name ckk
23:45.00KirkburnRight click --> whois =)
23:45.30ckknightright click -> your mom
23:45.31jkwColloquy looks like Gaim. :D
23:45.44Heriogaim is pretty win imo
23:45.50KirkburnColloquy?
23:45.57evl_Audium > *
23:45.59evl_tbh
23:46.03evl_and I'm on windows :P
23:46.11KirkburnSimen!
23:46.20packetlssanyone know if there is still diminishing returns on honor from kills?
23:46.23CIA-1703ckknight * r22141 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - fix square minimap dealy (thanks, Herio)
23:46.24Gnarfoz_Herio: you don't seem to be registered to freenode services - other people won't get your private messages this way ^^
23:46.35Heriooic
23:46.39evl_George!
23:46.42KirkburnOh I could spend all day reading out people's names
23:46.44ckknightevl_: Adium
23:46.49Kirkburnof the Jungle, no less
23:46.58ckknightKirkburn: Colloquy is a Mac IRC client
23:47.05KirkburnAh, cool
23:47.09Kirkburnwhat did you use before?
23:47.16ckknightXChat on Windows
23:47.23ckknightthen I tried XChat on Mac and didn't like it
23:47.26jkwirssi <3
23:47.46MikmaircII <3
23:47.58evl_Gaim is open sores
23:48.03lhunathcapitals--
23:48.14kenlyricI <3 irciI
23:48.18kenlyricircII
23:48.24KirkburnLondon! ... um ... Paris ... no, Madrid!
23:48.44CIA-1703sayclub * r22142 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
23:48.44CIA-17Babble-2.2:
23:48.44CIA-17- Update locals koKR(Babble-Spell-2.2)
23:49.05lhunathconsole++
23:49.11CIA-1703kaelten 07Ace2 * r22143 10KC_Items/KC_Items/tga/otravi-semi-full-border.tga: KC_Items (Ace 2) - Updated graphic for new frames,
23:52.07KirkburnAh, isn't it nice how even presents don't deter people from coding :P
23:52.34Kirkburn(and also wide religious and societal generalisations are fun!(
23:52.50Gamefaqmhh wow, everytime i look around vhaar was here, now i need him he isnīt here O.o
23:53.01KirkburnGone on holiday :)
23:53.02ckknightKirkburn: I got peanuts, clothing, and money for Christmas
23:53.13ckknightwe're already done...
23:53.15ckknightso why not code?
23:53.22Mikmahah
23:53.22Kirkburn<PROTECTED>
23:53.31ckknightpeanuts and cashews
23:53.43ckknightokay, macheads: how do I make a global keybinding to play/pause iTunes?
23:53.43KirkburnI have a box of mixed nuts next to me :)
23:53.55ZiconPeanuts for the code monkey?
23:54.09Mikmackknight: global? that's...something that i don't know hehe
23:54.19KirkburnI throw them across the atlantic and pacific every now and then to ckknight's gaping maw
23:54.29ZiconWhat a brilliant idea!
23:54.32ckknightwell, I don't like having to open iTunes to pause it
23:54.44Mikmackknight: use help?
23:54.48KirkburnOmg, ckknight is advocating globals!
23:55.10ZiconYou wanna know what I got for christmas?
23:55.36ckknightsure.
23:55.42Kirkburnwhy not. :P
23:55.43ZiconI got knives.
23:55.48neeneeHm.. For some reason when I run WoW now, my system process uses 50% cpu
23:55.54KirkburnSharp?
23:55.58ZiconVery.
23:56.02KirkburnAwesome
23:56.07Mikmapoked yourself already+
23:56.09Mikma+=?
23:56.11Cheadshmm is there a nice note ace addon?
23:56.11KirkburnPractise your stabbing arm
23:56.21Fisker-i heard something about sharp knives?
23:56.55Mikmackknight: cmd+? -> Setting custom global keyboard shortcuts
23:57.04Mikmackknight: that should help you, i think
23:57.25Mikmackknight: cmd+? as "open help" :)
23:57.52ckknightcan't find the link
23:57.53ckknightgah
23:58.12Mikmackknight: ok, apple menu -> system preferences -> keyboard & mouse
23:58.13Mikmathere :D
23:58.14Kirkburnckknight, out of interest, do you changes make the CustomDesign file somewhat ... uh ... harder?
23:58.26ckknightKirkburn: don't know, didn't touch that file
23:58.33Kirkburn=)
23:58.34Mikmackknight: there's a tab "Keyboard shortcuts"
23:58.42ckknightcool
23:58.53Mikmabut notice, you need to add the itunes keys in
23:59.02Mikmathere might be some info around about it
23:59.17CIA-1703fenlis * r22144 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
23:59.17CIA-17Babble-2.2:
23:59.18CIA-17- Updated locales koKR

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