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| 00:05.46 | Makk | wtf. |
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| 00:05.47 | KarlThePagan | wii splitsville |
| 00:05.48 | KarlThePagan | hellooooooo |
| 00:05.48 | Jens | Meh meh meh. |
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| 00:37.05 | Kirkburn | heh, Barbanus |
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| 00:37.16 | Kirkburn | A little excitement for us all :P |
| 00:37.16 | kebinusan | Can you do show on mouseover bars in bt3? |
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| 00:37.43 | abyssichate | I see, that doesn't make sense though, they are supposed to be some kind of damaging spells |
| 00:37.56 | mjc | it is |
| 00:37.59 | abyssichate | one warlock was using those in this second part of karazhan video I've just watched |
| 00:38.00 | abyssichate | I see |
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| 00:38.31 | mjc | abyssichate: increase that spell by 15% is a set bonus |
| 00:38.37 | rw3 | pastamancer: that's an equally good option, but not the point of my question ;) |
| 00:39.03 | abyssichate | uhm |
| 00:39.20 | lobotomy | rw3, meh, private messages don't seem to work since i haven't registered (and cba to register ;) |
| 00:39.32 | lobotomy | rw3, now working on the next gen version! :D |
| 00:39.52 | rw3 | Ah-a. Mine is pretty cool now ;) |
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| 00:40.37 | Necrathex | doesn't it reduce cooldown by 15%? |
| 00:40.43 | abyssichate | Oh, mjc, got it. Todesmantel is deathcoil but it is also used for the ZG set as it means "demoniac" |
| 00:40.45 | abyssichate | http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=todesmantel&btnG=Search |
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| 00:40.52 | mjc | ah |
| 00:41.14 | abyssichate | and fluch der pein is curse of agony, I didn't think about using google images |
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| 00:41.25 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r21727 10InFlight/ (Defaults.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc): |
| 00:41.25 | CIA-17 | InFlight: |
| 00:41.25 | CIA-17 | - Removed checking for and removing old InFlight POI data |
| 00:41.25 | CIA-17 | - Now uses 8 yards to check for nearby notes |
| 00:41.26 | CIA-17 | - Removed math_mod compat and added Dismount() check |
| 00:41.36 | lobotomy | next thing to figure out is how to work with action bar buttons. was thinking of 1) calculating all the stuff for those spells and ranks that are found on the buttons and 2) displaying average spell damage on each button |
| 00:42.06 | lobotomy | but dunno how to do that... rw3's code has the latter but it seems to be bartender only |
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| 00:42.41 | Necrathex | Decreases the cooldown of Death Coil by 15%. |
| 00:42.49 | rw3 | I have DAB, bongos, nurfed and BT3 |
| 00:43.02 | lobotomy | do you have the standard action bar buttons tho? :p |
| 00:43.21 | rw3 | Let's say I'd know exactly how to do it |
| 00:43.26 | rw3 | But I cba |
| 00:43.32 | rw3 | The' |
| 00:43.36 | lobotomy | ideal imo would be something that would work with just any action bar mod |
| 00:43.47 | rw3 | *They're more painful to put in than any other custom AB |
| 00:43.58 | rw3 | well, I'll put it in eventually, not high priority :) |
| 00:43.59 | lobotomy | but i dunno if it's possible, it is if there's some underlying action button thing that you can hook and add data to it |
| 00:44.22 | rw3 | It will work with all that you've added support for |
| 00:44.36 | rw3 | There isn't a general solution unfortunately |
| 00:44.41 | lobotomy | well darnz |
| 00:45.26 | Xuerian | I was pinged earlier.... |
| 00:45.33 | rw3 | I've added target debuff scanning etc. |
| 00:45.36 | Barbanus | What does InFlight do? |
| 00:45.39 | Xuerian | WHO DARES DISTURB ME WHILST I CONSUME CREAM SODAS |
| 00:46.09 | mjc | Xuerian: XLootSync, so we can autopopulate Cartographer_InstanceNotes |
| 00:46.32 | Xuerian | buh.... what.... how.... why.... ..... whoaaaaaah? |
| 00:46.51 | mjc | with drop rate nifo |
| 00:46.53 | mjc | info |
| 00:47.04 | Xuerian | Oooh. |
| 00:47.46 | Xuerian | Hm. |
| 00:48.56 | lobotomy | rw3, could you give me some pointer on how to do stuff with standard blizz action buttons? :] |
| 00:48.58 | mjc | should be easy |
| 00:49.10 | mjc | Xuerian: but it shouldn't depend on XLoot itself |
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| 00:49.46 | mjc | Xuerian: maybe turn xloot's shareable code into a lib |
| 00:50.29 | Xuerian | mjc: LootMap? Something like that.... I want to write SEE-Loot first.... That might be part of it. The problem is determining what loot belongs to what corpse. |
| 00:50.45 | mjc | just bosses by name would be fine |
| 00:51.07 | mjc | the cartographer loot stuff is fine, just need to sync drop rate stuff, ntohing else |
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| 00:51.11 | Maxemus | i take it the ability to change a paladin aura after mounting would be considered casting a spell now? |
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| 00:52.38 | Xuerian | hmf. Well, bosses should be relatively easy, and xloot doesn't really need to be any part of it... Cartographer_Dropcatcher? |
| 00:53.19 | mjc | sure. |
| 00:53.33 | mjc | Cartographer_Leprosy |
| 00:53.46 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 00:53.55 | Xuerian | Syncing? |
| 00:54.24 | lobotomy | hmm, getglobal("ActionButton1"):GetText() returns nil... same for 2 - 12 |
| 00:54.36 | lobotomy | and BonusActionButton too |
| 00:55.13 | rw3 | it doesn't have text? |
| 00:55.24 | Xuerian | Well, have company over tonight and tomrrow, and I'll be gone this weekend..... Guess I'll start after christmas :p |
| 00:55.26 | lobotomy | well probably not :) |
| 00:55.38 | lobotomy | SetText("foo") doesn't seem to do anything either. dunno how these work |
| 00:55.52 | rw3 | you need to create a font string |
| 00:56.09 | rw3 | frame:CreateFontString( nil, "OVERLAY" ) |
| 00:59.27 | Makk | man this is fun :D |
| 01:01.53 | lobotomy | hmm, doesn't work with that overlay thing either |
| 01:02.13 | lobotomy | and even a macro button (which has the macro name written on it) returns just nil from GetText() |
| 01:02.23 | lobotomy | i mean an action button that has a macro on it |
| 01:02.29 | Gngsk | I have tekSupport enabled, but I can't find it |
| 01:02.36 | Gngsk | it's not on my fubar or warmup entry |
| 01:03.49 | rw3 | lobotomy: you need to set a number of other things too ;) |
| 01:03.57 | rw3 | I'll paste you |
| 01:04.45 | lobotomy | bah, i'd just need to get a working GetText() and SetText(), but i can't find too much docs about how to make those actually work |
| 01:05.34 | Xuerian | lobotomy- |
| 01:05.35 | Xuerian | ~framexml |
| 01:05.40 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 01:05.46 | Insa | Do i need to |
| 01:06.03 | rw3 | lobotomy: Pasted you in IRCNet |
| 01:06.04 | Insa | wrong channel sorry:) |
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| 01:08.00 | Insa | Do i need to do something special to have an icon at my fubar plugin, because 'self.hasIcon = "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_unused2"' doesn't seem to work? |
| 01:08.39 | Nargiddley | where are you setting that ? |
| 01:08.51 | Insa | OnInitialize() |
| 01:09.06 | Nargiddley | i had probs with mine not showing till i moved it from there to the top of the .lua file |
| 01:10.10 | ckknight | Insa, too late |
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| 01:10.14 | Insa | Aha |
| 01:10.15 | Insa | that works |
| 01:10.52 | Insa | thanks=) |
| 01:11.23 | ckknight | so whenever I plug power into my laptop, then my laptop crashes |
| 01:11.25 | ckknight | any ideas? |
| 01:11.54 | Daemona | 1. bad power supply 2. bad plug causing a short-cut 3. bad load-controller |
| 01:11.58 | Daemona | so in general |
| 01:11.58 | Daemona | bad |
| 01:12.20 | ckknight | :-( |
| 01:12.30 | ckknight | only started today |
| 01:12.35 | Daemona | cause in either way you get a short-cut or a voltage spike :/ |
| 01:12.57 | mjc | turn the lights off, and if you can, the screen backlight off |
| 01:13.05 | mjc | if you can see a spark somewhere, figure out hwere :P |
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| 01:16.19 | mjc | some mod is doing /mana now |
| 01:16.20 | mjc | blah |
| 01:16.20 | xgravix | could also be software problem but thats less likely |
| 01:16.36 | Maxemus | or it could be the power management driver for the laptop causing the crash |
| 01:16.41 | Insa | Is there any way to know the target of a spell of a unit? like say raid24 clickcast heals someone, can you get that target? |
| 01:16.45 | xgravix | more likely if you are using linux =P |
| 01:16.51 | Maxemus | when it switches from internal power to mains |
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| 01:17.09 | Insa | Because now i just assume they cast on whatever target they have |
| 01:19.00 | Makk | what's the best way to add text in a frame? |
| 01:20.15 | Arrowmaster | mjc: its probably automation |
| 01:21.05 | mjc | ah, good call |
| 01:21.40 | Makk | does anyone know? :S |
| 01:21.50 | Makk | I assume you do :/ |
| 01:21.51 | Arrowmaster | yeah it did a low health call for me in a bg early |
| 01:21.59 | Arrowmaster | frame:SetText("text") |
| 01:22.03 | mjc | whine is annoying |
| 01:22.05 | Makk | thanks :) |
| 01:26.57 | Funkeh` | nymbia: ping |
| 01:27.11 | nymbia | Funkeh`: pong |
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| 01:34.09 | Makk | hm |
| 01:34.28 | Makk | so if I have a statusbar (CreateFrame("statusbar", "backgroundwin", UIParent)) |
| 01:34.36 | kergoth | how hte fuck do i move the yata totembar? |
| 01:34.40 | Makk | how would I give this some text on it? |
| 01:34.41 | Tekkub | http://www.wowmatrix.com/ *cough* |
| 01:35.10 | sylvanaar | oh yeah what mod is coloring the playernames in the guild frame? |
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| 01:38.27 | sylvanaar | ah ok i figure it out |
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| 01:40.00 | sylvanaar | what is that |
| 01:40.07 | Karn | tekkub |
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| 01:40.10 | Makk | http://ace.pastey.net/3872 |
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| 01:40.16 | Makk | why doesn't this work? |
| 01:40.16 | Tekkub | what |
| 01:40.22 | Karn | whts the point in that site? |
| 01:40.29 | Karn | just a low bandwith addon host? |
| 01:40.40 | Kirov | Karn - make money |
| 01:40.42 | sylvanaar | make money on ads? |
| 01:40.45 | Tekkub | the point is, if your shit is on there and you don't want it to be you need to get bitchy with someone |
| 01:40.47 | Karn | ah ok |
| 01:41.10 | Makk | Tekkub: could you take a look at that for me? |
| 01:41.27 | Kirov | Makk - what are you trying to do? |
| 01:41.31 | Tekkub | what doesn't work? |
| 01:41.32 | Makk | text |
| 01:41.35 | Kirov | Makk - or, more to the point, what doesn't happen |
| 01:41.36 | Makk | on my statusbar |
| 01:41.40 | Makk | nothing appears |
| 01:41.53 | Kirov | because you did a set text before set font |
| 01:42.04 | Kirov | reverse the two, should fix it, I think |
| 01:42.14 | Tekkub | you *just* want text or you want soemthing you can click and shit? |
| 01:42.22 | Makk | nope, just text. |
| 01:42.32 | Kirov | oh |
| 01:42.49 | Kirov | er, you don't want a button? |
| 01:42.49 | Makk | I'm very new to this, sorry =/ |
| 01:43.16 | Makk | well, I could use the button frame to make the other frames dragable, right? |
| 01:43.18 | Karn | isnt it a fontstring or something that you want instead of a button? |
| 01:43.29 | Karn | makk you can just register the frame to accept drags |
| 01:43.40 | Makk | fontstring sounds like a good idea :P |
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| 01:44.19 | ckknight_ | couldn't figure out the issue with my power adapter |
| 01:44.41 | Karn | not plugged in? |
| 01:45.00 | ckknight_ | Karn, when I plug it in, my computer crashes. |
| 01:45.04 | kenlyric|home | ckknight_: not a cupholder. |
| 01:45.06 | ckknight_ | running on batteries right now |
| 01:45.31 | Karn | time to watch Eragon |
| 01:45.37 | Karn | i'm _that_ bored |
| 01:45.59 | kergoth | eragon's a good book imo. movie's not /too/ bad |
| 01:46.01 | ckknight | so I'm thinking of buying a new computer |
| 01:46.05 | ckknight | my price range is $2000 |
| 01:46.10 | ckknight | anyone have any advice/suggestions? |
| 01:46.17 | mjc | macbook pro :P |
| 01:46.24 | ckknight | that's what I'm thinking |
| 01:46.36 | Karn | ~whaleslap mjc |
| 01:46.39 | purl | ACTION beats mjc upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 01:46.48 | Karn | ewww ma |
| 01:46.49 | Karn | mac |
| 01:47.01 | Kirov | Get a macbook, install windows on it. |
| 01:47.07 | Makk | Kirov: pm? :) |
| 01:47.09 | mjc | ew windows |
| 01:47.14 | ckknight | if you want to make a legitimate suggestion, Karn, I'll be happy to hear it |
| 01:47.22 | Kirkburn | Wait until Vista is out |
| 01:47.31 | Karn | he doesnt have long |
| 01:47.33 | Kirov | Makk - didn't get it, are you registered with NickServ? |
| 01:47.36 | Karn | he cant charge his comp :P |
| 01:47.38 | Kirkburn | That's my legitimate suggestion .... if possible |
| 01:47.46 | ckknight | Kirkburn, but my computer is dying... |
| 01:47.46 | Makk | Kirov: 2 sec |
| 01:47.50 | Kirkburn | Then fair enough |
| 01:48.03 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, windows on a macbookpro == nice |
| 01:48.06 | Ordog | ckknight where does it crash? on boot or in windows? |
| 01:48.11 | Kirkburn | Don't know what's big out in Hawaii :/ |
| 01:48.13 | ckknight | Ordog, as soon as I plug in |
| 01:48.19 | ckknight | and if it's plugged in, it won't boot |
| 01:48.38 | Karn | imo macs arnt that spectacular hardware-wise now they are basically x86 |
| 01:48.39 | Ordog | so when you go to bios config and plug it in it crashes? 8/ |
| 01:48.41 | Kirkburn | Dell makes pretty good laptops |
| 01:48.51 | Karn | alienware? |
| 01:48.51 | Kirkburn | (yes, they do. Really) |
| 01:48.56 | ckknight | Ordog, I can guarantee it |
| 01:49.01 | ckknight | but haven't tested that |
| 01:49.09 | Kirkburn | Alienware is severly overpriced |
| 01:49.13 | mjc | apple's laptops are better constructed than any other, period |
| 01:49.16 | ckknight | I just want the best thing I can get for $2000 |
| 01:49.22 | Karn | mjc, thats bullshit |
| 01:49.32 | Kirkburn | mjc, that is a little extreme tbh |
| 01:49.35 | ckknight | and I don't want bickering, I want proo |
| 01:49.35 | ckknight | f |
| 01:49.51 | KarlThePagan | DO NOT buy a dell laptop unless you're buying alienware or XPS |
| 01:49.56 | KarlThePagan | poor upgrade path |
| 01:50.05 | Kirkburn | The Dell XPS is good |
| 01:50.16 | Kirkburn | Was exactly what I was going to suggest :P |
| 01:50.21 | KarlThePagan | i just had the worst fucking support experience ever lol |
| 01:50.31 | Ordog | "notebook" and "upgrade" doesnt fit that well together anyway |
| 01:50.33 | KarlThePagan | was specific to laptop upgrade options (under warranty) |
| 01:50.49 | KarlThePagan | no all notebook cpus and video cards should be somewhat upgradable nowadays |
| 01:50.55 | KarlThePagan | depending on model |
| 01:51.00 | Ordog | an upgrade for my pc is a cpu/mainboard/ram/gfx upgrade ... |
| 01:51.03 | KarlThePagan | dells should be |
| 01:51.09 | mjc | KarlThePagan: not the non-gaming ones.. |
| 01:51.18 | Kirkburn | http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1210?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs |
| 01:51.32 | Karn | mjc, what mac do you know that is upgradable, cheaply? |
| 01:51.42 | Kirkburn | The next two models are the XPS are out of ckk's price range :/ |
| 01:51.44 | mjc | mac pro :P |
| 01:51.51 | Kirkburn | *of, not are |
| 01:51.57 | mjc | they all have cpu upgrades too |
| 01:51.57 | ckknight | I need it to be a laptop |
| 01:52.06 | KarlThePagan | what "non-gaming" pc would you spend 2k on? |
| 01:52.19 | Kirkburn | ckk, this is the next up - $2299: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1710?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs |
| 01:52.34 | mjc | can get a refurb macbook pro for $1499 |
| 01:52.40 | kebinusan | Hmm any chance of getting mouseover bar options in bt3 |
| 01:52.48 | ckknight | that'd be sweet, mjc |
| 01:52.55 | ckknight | I'm not against refurbished |
| 01:52.58 | kenlyric|home | didn't dell buy alienware? |
| 01:52.59 | mjc | store.apple.com |
| 01:53.01 | Kirkburn | kebinusan, mouseover bar options? |
| 01:53.10 | Kirkburn | kenlyric|home, I think they may have |
| 01:53.26 | ckknight | basically: I want to play WoW really well and have it be $2000 |
| 01:53.32 | ckknight | and it has to have at least a gig of RAM |
| 01:53.32 | Kirkburn | kebinusan, do you mean like options where you can right--click on a bar and get options? |
| 01:53.52 | Kirkburn | Well, I'm damn impressed by my Dell 9300 |
| 01:53.58 | Karn | ckknight, you should easily be able to get 2gb ram with $2k |
| 01:54.16 | Kirkburn | kebinusan, because if you do - that's been in BT3 all the time |
| 01:54.38 | Kirkburn | Or do you mean bars which appears on mouseover? |
| 01:54.42 | kenlyric|home | Kirkburn: well, mouseover suggests... mouse over. Not mouse click. |
| 01:54.44 | KarlThePagan | who here would use a bitlib mod if I comitted it? (turns consts into bits) |
| 01:55.00 | KarlThePagan | and let's you easy and/or bool logic etc |
| 01:55.03 | ckknight | mjc, the third one here looks nice: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=D8593B5A&nclm=CertifiedMac |
| 01:55.04 | kenlyric|home | I know that's what one friend missed switing from dab, but many other bar mods miss that feature. |
| 01:55.16 | Kirov | btw, a tip for people browsing the dell site ... do it as a "small business" and it's a lot easier to navigate |
| 01:55.19 | ckknight | I need it to be < 17 inches |
| 01:55.27 | kenlyric|home | do it as a university and it's cheaper ;) |
| 01:55.29 | ckknight | since 17 inches is too big for my bookbag |
| 01:55.33 | ckknight | well, I could get a new one |
| 01:55.36 | mjc | 15 is excellent |
| 01:55.38 | Kirkburn | (I'm not saying don't go Apple btw, it's just because I have no experience of Apples. Go for an Apple if it's sensible!) |
| 01:55.39 | ckknight | as long as it's not too heavy |
| 01:55.50 | mjc | nice a refurb core duo |
| 01:55.50 | Karn | i like small portable notebooks |
| 01:55.51 | mjc | that's a steal |
| 01:55.53 | Kirov | ckknight - you need it less than 17 inches? |
| 01:55.53 | ckknight | Kirkburn, I'd be happy with any OS, honestly. |
| 01:55.56 | kenlyric|home | a real graphics card in a laptop means heavy.... heavier, at least. |
| 01:55.57 | Kirov | or more than |
| 01:55.59 | Karn | but then again i have dual 17" TFTs on my desk |
| 01:56.02 | ckknight | Kirov, less |
| 01:56.03 | Kirkburn | ckknight, good :) |
| 01:56.10 | kebinusan | kirkburn, I mean like bars that are hidden until you mouseover them |
| 01:56.16 | Makk | how is the rules concerning spelldmg and stuff? |
| 01:56.19 | Kirkburn | kebinusan, ah, then I don't know :P |
| 01:56.22 | ckknight | well, any OS that plays WoW and has media support |
| 01:56.25 | ckknight | so, Windows or Mac. |
| 01:56.31 | kenlyric|home | kebinusan: no, it's not possible in bartender3, that I know of. |
| 01:56.35 | mjc | macbook pro runs windows juts fine |
| 01:56.37 | Karn | ckknight, linux plays wow |
| 01:56.37 | Makk | if i have 1052.84 spelldmg on a certain spell, is it always rounded up or down? |
| 01:56.38 | kenlyric|home | bongos can't do it either. |
| 01:56.46 | ckknight | Karn, no, not without hacks. |
| 01:56.47 | Makk | or just rounded? |
| 01:56.52 | Karn | no hacks |
| 01:56.57 | Karn | just a peice of software to run it |
| 01:57.04 | ckknight | mjc, yea, I'll likely run all three OSes for my work |
| 01:57.11 | mjc | refit.sf.net |
| 01:57.13 | kenlyric|home | a piece of software that blizzard knows about now :) |
| 01:57.18 | mjc | grub done right |
| 01:57.24 | Karn | i personally think its bullshit that they can be bothered to port WoW to MacOSX (unix-based) but not Linux |
| 01:57.29 | Karn | really wouldnt take much effort |
| 01:58.06 | Tuller | I hear its some crazy conspiracy via MS to prevent people from using linux! |
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| 01:58.09 | kenlyric|home | linux on consumer desktop is a significantly more niche market than MacOS on the desktop |
| 01:58.14 | sylvanaar | up at 0.5 |
| 01:58.15 | ckknight | Karn, Wine is a hack. Cedega is a hack. |
| 01:58.22 | mjc | OSX's development environment doesn't suck |
| 01:58.33 | ckknight | yes, I want a "good" development environment |
| 01:58.42 | Makk | sylvanaar: replying to me? |
| 01:58.45 | mjc | blows the pants off VS2005... |
| 01:58.56 | Karn | VS2005 sucks anyway |
| 01:58.57 | kenlyric|home | if you develop in windows now, it can only improve :) |
| 01:59.17 | sylvanaar | yeah i guess |
| 01:59.29 | Makk | thanks :) |
| 01:59.36 | kenlyric|home | sorry, I died just a little inside. |
| 02:00.03 | Eej | Makk: it's rounded |
| 02:00.05 | kenlyric|home | developing in visual studio is like eating a bowl of glass. |
| 02:00.13 | Eej | wait |
| 02:00.15 | kenlyric|home | You *can* do it. But probably don't want to. |
| 02:00.15 | sylvanaar | usually you just add 0.5 then take off a decimal |
| 02:00.23 | Kirov | ckknight - if you don't want a mac, try http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=d820hi&s=bsd |
| 02:00.24 | Eej | they don't round up numbers |
| 02:00.30 | Karn | kenlyric|home, you dont have to develop in VS2005 to develop in windows |
| 02:00.43 | Karn | hell, notepad and a compiler works just as well |
| 02:00.47 | Eej | if there's a decimal you might get 1052 or 1053 spell damage on your spells |
| 02:00.47 | kenlyric|home | Karn: I know. |
| 02:00.53 | Eej | with a greater probability of 1053 |
| 02:00.56 | kenlyric|home | I develop in windows by SSHing to my linux box :) |
| 02:01.02 | Karn | haha nice |
| 02:01.08 | Makk | Damn =/ |
| 02:01.23 | Karn | VI and gcc i assume |
| 02:01.23 | Makk | what's the lua function to remove a decimal? |
| 02:01.35 | kenlyric|home | though "develop" is too fancy a word for it. |
| 02:01.42 | sylvanaar | *10 |
| 02:01.46 | Karn | Makk, cast it to an integer |
| 02:01.48 | ckknight | Kirov, honestly, I think the MacBook Pro's specs are better for cheaper |
| 02:01.49 | kenlyric|home | nah, I know it's not politically correct, but I've always been an emacs baby. |
| 02:01.53 | ckknight | from what I'm seeing |
| 02:01.58 | Makk | Karn: come again? |
| 02:02.05 | Kirov | ckknight - I'd aggree, just saying "if you don't want it" |
| 02:02.19 | ckknight | I have no issues with Macs |
| 02:02.25 | ckknight | I'm neither pro nor against |
| 02:02.46 | Karn | makk, i think tointeger(1052.523) should return 1052 |
| 02:02.48 | sylvanaar | +0.5 * 10 div 10 |
| 02:02.49 | Karn | if it exists |
| 02:03.34 | ckknight | Karn, math.floor(1052.523) |
| 02:03.47 | Karn | or math.ceil(1052.xxx) will return 1053 and math.floor(1052.xxx) will return 1052 |
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| 02:03.51 | ckknight | sylvanaar, I actually have a nice banker's rounding algorithm in Carto-Notes |
| 02:03.57 | Karn | ckknight, i was just typing that ;) |
| 02:04.17 | ckknight | 1234.5 => 1234, 1235.5 => 1236 |
| 02:04.35 | Makk | I'll just do ceil |
| 02:04.35 | CIA-17 | 03arjuna * r21728 10simpleMinimap/ (modules/movers.lua simpleMinimap.lua): |
| 02:04.35 | CIA-17 | simpleMinimap: |
| 02:04.35 | CIA-17 | - fixed smmCaptureMover (hopefully) |
| 02:05.38 | Karn | do people really use trillian to chat on irc?? |
| 02:05.45 | ckknight | hrm, yea, using Dell's personalization thing, to get the same spec as a MacBook Pro, it costs $300 more |
| 02:05.57 | mjc | warranty? |
| 02:06.10 | mjc | 3yr extra on the macbook is $249 I think |
| 02:06.29 | ckknight | not sure about that |
| 02:06.35 | mjc | the mac is lighter and has ab igger batter, plus the magnetic power cord so you can't have the issue you're having anymore :P |
| 02:06.36 | ckknight | how long is the standard for a macbook? |
| 02:06.41 | mjc | battery |
| 02:06.42 | mjc | 1yr |
| 02:06.46 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 02:06.52 | ckknight | I have about $1000 now |
| 02:06.55 | Ordog | 2yr in europe .. |
| 02:06.58 | ckknight | and am working over this winter |
| 02:08.51 | ckknight | well, gonna fiddle with my power adapter |
| 02:09.05 | ckknight | possibly goodbye... |
| 02:10.33 | Ordog | still no timeout :> |
| 02:11.15 | Ordog | tried removing the battery for stationary usage? better for the battery anyway |
| 02:11.31 | Karn | he cant plug in his charger without the laptop rebooting |
| 02:12.03 | mjc | he probably pinged out already |
| 02:12.05 | mjc | or he'd respond |
| 02:12.31 | Karn | either that or he's engrosed in his adapter |
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| 02:21.06 | ckknight_ | apparently it's not the power adapter |
| 02:21.10 | ckknight_ | but something in my computer itself |
| 02:21.17 | ckknight_ | basically, if it's tilted a certain way, it crashes when plugged in |
| 02:21.57 | Makk | 02:38 < Karn> makk you can just register the frame to accept drags |
| 02:21.59 | Makk | how do I do this? |
| 02:22.12 | Baraius | LoL I keep finding things that make Cartographer even cooler. |
| 02:22.31 | ckknight | Makk, :RegisterForDrag |
| 02:22.38 | Fudge | Baraius, like what? |
| 02:22.39 | ckknight | baraius, hoorah |
| 02:22.41 | Makk | lol, that easy? :D |
| 02:23.04 | ckknight | Makk, yea, it's :SetMovable(true) |
| 02:23.09 | ckknight | :RegisterForDrag("OnMouseUp") |
| 02:23.18 | Baraius | Just got the instance loot working |
| 02:23.26 | Baraius | That is friggin awesome. |
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| 02:23.55 | Baraius | Oh and the coloring by class on the party dots on the map. |
| 02:24.05 | Makk | Baraius: that one rocks |
| 02:26.02 | Baraius | That was sufficiently cool |
| 02:26.08 | Baraius | I had to alt-tab out and share |
| 02:26.09 | Baraius | LoL |
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| 02:26.45 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 02:26.48 | ckknight | glad you like it |
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| 02:28.37 | kergoth | does ora2 still have keybindings for assisting? |
| 02:28.53 | pastamancer | ckknight: I recommend the 15" MacBook Pro, the 17" ones are a bit unwieldy |
| 02:29.12 | ckknight | pastamancer, yea, I wanted the 15-incher |
| 02:29.17 | ckknight | you use a Mac? |
| 02:29.30 | pastamancer | work is a mac shop, everyone has powerbooks or macbook pros |
| 02:30.00 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:30.03 | ckknight | okay |
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| 02:30.47 | pastamancer | I'm still using a G4 powerbook, but the other people in IS with MBPs love 'em |
| 02:31.53 | pastamancer | and I have to wait until next year's budget for an intel xserve to play with |
| 02:33.09 | pastamancer | if you're still in college, you should be able to get an educational discount |
| 02:35.54 | pastamancer | also, I'd recommend getting AppleCare |
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| 02:37.00 | pastamancer | wb |
| 02:37.13 | ckknight | :-( |
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| 02:37.21 | ckknight | ^--- how I feel about my computer right now |
| 02:37.43 | pastamancer | were you looking at the 2.16 or the 2.33 GHz model? |
| 02:37.50 | ckknight | 2.16 |
| 02:37.57 | Prophy | theres a mod that spams "you have announced you are low on mana" like 10times...anyone know how i can disable this |
| 02:38.00 | ckknight | my price range is $2000 |
| 02:38.07 | ckknight | Prophy, Automaton module |
| 02:38.25 | pastamancer | I'd recommend AppleCare |
| 02:38.37 | pastamancer | that puts it at $2038 with student discount |
| 02:38.39 | ckknight | what does that entail? |
| 02:38.41 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:38.49 | pastamancer | 3 years anything gets fixed, no questions |
| 02:38.49 | ckknight | I am a student... |
| 02:39.23 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07v2.0 * r21729 10DKPmon/DKPmon/ (Roster/raid.lua main.lua): DKPmon: v2.0 move raid roster to SavedVariables to keep the data on a /console reloadui. |
| 02:40.12 | pastamancer | http://store.apple.com/1-800-780-5009/WebObjects/EducationIndividual?type=higherEd |
| 02:40.42 | weab | meh. i'm going to have to fix that |
| 02:41.09 | rw3 | How often are SVN access requests processed... on average? |
| 02:41.23 | mjc | ask kaelten, he seems to be the one to do it |
| 02:41.56 | rw3 | ~seen Kaelten |
| 02:42.31 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 6h 42m 18s, last said: 'porting what?'. |
| 02:43.39 | mjc | edu discount doesn't apply to refurb |
| 02:43.58 | CIA-17 | 03weab * r21730 10Automaton/modules/Whine.lua: Automaton: The whine module, quite understandably was annoying the crap out of people. Temporarily removed until it is set to default to disabled. |
| 02:43.58 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21731 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua: |
| 02:43.58 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable-2.0 |
| 02:43.58 | CIA-17 | -Added most (if not all) TBC food,drinks,statfood |
| 02:45.50 | snurre | hm, givf more xp |
| 02:45.52 | Makk | can anyone help me making a frame draggable? |
| 02:45.54 | Makk | =) |
| 02:45.57 | snurre | need lvl60 :( |
| 02:46.19 | pastamancer | mjc: hmm, true. I'm not surprised. |
| 02:47.14 | kergoth | weab, hehe |
| 02:47.48 | snurre | wonder if ill be able to do 57.6 to 60 tomorrow |
| 02:48.21 | weab | i think i underestimated how many and how often people update it :P |
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| 02:56.26 | ckknight_ | current mood: :'( |
| 02:56.52 | TheKarn | no luck? |
| 02:56.59 | Kinkx | Is FuBar_WhisperFu being maintained? |
| 02:57.52 | ckknight | TheKarn, it crashed again. |
| 02:57.56 | Kinkx | Cool addon, but it's a bit buggy and still trying to use TargetByName |
| 02:58.34 | abyssichate | I wonder which addon is now printing out a big "Killing Blow" on my screen by default :E |
| 02:59.27 | ckknight | hey, macheads: what's the difference between a MacBook Pro 15-inch Widescreen Display and a MacBook Pro 15-inch Glossy Widescreen Display? |
| 02:59.33 | ckknight | i.e. glossy and non-glossy |
| 03:00.36 | TheKarn | you'll get a richer black from a glossy screen |
| 03:00.42 | ckknight | do I want that? |
| 03:00.46 | ckknight | it appears to be free |
| 03:00.48 | TheKarn | its pretty |
| 03:00.50 | weab | glossy has more glare |
| 03:01.05 | TheKarn | but the problem is readability is reduced - especially in direct light |
| 03:01.11 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:01.19 | weab | but glossy does look pretty |
| 03:01.22 | ckknight | as a developer and a WoW player, do I want it? |
| 03:01.31 | weab | mine has glossy and it doesn't bug me |
| 03:01.52 | TheKarn | it really depends on a_ your preference and b_ you're location when using your lappy |
| 03:01.54 | weab | although i tend to prefer dark areas anyway so the glare issue never comes up |
| 03:02.02 | TheKarn | i personally prefer matte screens |
| 03:02.33 | ckknight | nah, I play in the library and such, where it can be light |
| 03:03.03 | TheKarn | if therse a light behind you it'll be irritating |
| 03:04.03 | Ordog | Cartographer-r29514\Modules\InstanceNotes\module.lua:35: Notes: Bad argument #3 to `RegisterNotesDatabase' (table expected, got string) |
| 03:04.03 | Ordog | <in C code>: ? |
| 03:04.03 | Ordog | AceEvent-2.0-21157 (FuBar):226: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 03:04.03 | Ordog | AceEvent-2.0-21157 (FuBar):857: in function <...face\AddOns\FuBar\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:850> |
| 03:04.05 | Ordog | ups sry |
| 03:04.06 | TheKarn | it's nice to have the blacker-black as such but the downsides really outweigh them |
| 03:04.13 | Ordog | that shouldve been a pastebin url -.- |
| 03:04.18 | TheKarn | Ordog, ace.pastey.net kthx |
| 03:04.47 | Prophy | whats the setting to enable "channel joins and leaves" in prat? |
| 03:04.48 | Ordog | ye sry my wireless keyboard sometimes messes up with key combos (like ctrl+c ...) |
| 03:05.54 | TheKarn | i've never seen the point in a wireless keyboard |
| 03:05.59 | TheKarn | its not as if you move it around much :P |
| 03:06.05 | Antiarc | I'm starting to think I might have an unhealthy love for the Blizzard UI design. |
| 03:06.17 | Antiarc | I just reimplemented the basics of it. In Python. |
| 03:06.31 | TheKarn | Antiarc, bored? |
| 03:06.42 | rw3 | wireless keyboard is a nice remote when watching movies |
| 03:06.50 | rw3 | that's about it |
| 03:06.52 | TheKarn | so does a remote :P |
| 03:06.56 | Antiarc | TheKarn: Well, I was working on a pet project to learn pygame, and it's turned into this massive undertaking |
| 03:07.03 | Antiarc | I'm basically writing a complete extensible 2d game engine. |
| 03:07.19 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21732 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua: |
| 03:07.19 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable-2.0 |
| 03:07.19 | CIA-17 | -Missed a couple of the lower level foods/drinks |
| 03:07.46 | Antiarc | http://70.184.82.98/tachyonsix/public_html/td/base.xml |
| 03:07.48 | Antiarc | Turns in to... |
| 03:07.50 | TheKarn | Antiarc, i wish i had the time to learn/write to code something huge |
| 03:07.54 | Antiarc | http://70.184.82.98/tachyonsix/public_html/td/layout.png |
| 03:08.04 | Antiarc | Heh, I just started this week |
| 03:08.18 | Antiarc | The blue dots with green boxes are the layout test |
| 03:08.31 | TheKarn | nice |
| 03:08.37 | TheKarn | that looks like Zelda :P |
| 03:08.46 | Antiarc | Well, I kinda borrowed the sprites >_> |
| 03:08.54 | TheKarn | i guessed |
| 03:08.59 | Antiarc | I got tired of looking at photoshop dot sprites. |
| 03:10.02 | ckknight | well, I have $1000 in my bank account and my dad's going to lend me the rest for my comp |
| 03:10.09 | TheKarn | gz |
| 03:10.13 | Antiarc | I'm actually halfway considering embedding Lua, because I think it does the scripts-in-XML embedded stuff better than Python. |
| 03:10.13 | TheKarn | now dont get a mac :P |
| 03:10.15 | ckknight | so looks like I'm getting a new computer tomorrow ;-) |
| 03:10.19 | ckknight | why not, TheKarn? |
| 03:10.26 | Antiarc | Which is...kinda crazy. Embedding a scripting language in another scripting language. |
| 03:10.28 | TheKarn | i just dont like MacOSX |
| 03:10.28 | ckknight | if you show me a better deal, I'll be _happy_ to take a look |
| 03:10.34 | ckknight | I just want the best deal |
| 03:10.38 | ckknight | I honestly don't care about the OS |
| 03:10.39 | TheKarn | yeah i know |
| 03:10.41 | ckknight | I can adapt |
| 03:11.07 | nymbia | i like os x. course, my mac blew up a year and a half ago.. |
| 03:11.14 | ckknight | oh, btw, macheads (pastamancer, mjc): for laptops, they come with one mouse button. How would I say, make it right-click? |
| 03:11.22 | mjc | ctrl |
| 03:11.23 | nymbia | ckknight: ctrl |
| 03:11.35 | ckknight | what about WoW? |
| 03:11.40 | weab | ckknight: buy a bluetooth travelmouse :> |
| 03:11.40 | TheKarn | how annoying :( |
| 03:11.40 | ckknight | ctrl as well or what? |
| 03:11.41 | nymbia | command |
| 03:11.51 | ckknight | weab, in the library, I prefer not to have a mouse |
| 03:11.57 | ckknight | at home and work, I'd use a real mouse |
| 03:11.58 | mjc | ctrl works |
| 03:12.00 | TheKarn | why can they not just implement a second button? |
| 03:12.14 | Ordog | forbidden by design |
| 03:12.17 | Antiarc | There's a design philosophy in the hardcore mac circles that says the second button is a crutch. |
| 03:12.17 | pastamancer | ckknight: option and control are your other mouse buttons |
| 03:12.37 | ckknight | pastamancer, hrm, but they're usable in WoW? |
| 03:12.50 | Antiarc | Personally, I think that a mouse with one button is "elegant" like playing WoW entirely through slash commands is elegant. |
| 03:12.52 | pastamancer | if you've ever done PC tech support, you'll know how hard some people find the concept of "right-click" |
| 03:12.56 | pastamancer | ckknight: totally |
| 03:13.04 | pastamancer | ckknight: and external mice work as expected |
| 03:13.06 | ckknight | pastamancer, okay, that's all I really care about. |
| 03:13.08 | TheKarn | pastamancer, i do PC tech support and i agree |
| 03:13.22 | ckknight | and yes, I wish my dad had a mac |
| 03:13.25 | TheKarn | but for people that would spend $2000 on a laptop i'd assume they'd understand the concept |
| 03:13.26 | ckknight | he has no concept of the right-click |
| 03:13.29 | weab | it actually does get confusing though |
| 03:13.47 | ckknight | what about if I boot into Windows? how would that work out? |
| 03:14.13 | ckknight | it's likely I'll run all three OSes some time. |
| 03:14.16 | pastamancer | not sure, I'll have to ask one of the guys at work who's playing around with bootcamp |
| 03:14.18 | weab | i actually never installed windows on mine. i thought that'd have to be the first thing to do |
| 03:14.19 | Ordog | you can get several *nix derivates to run on a macbook |
| 03:14.32 | Tain | Playing WoW entirely with the keyboard is sadly an elegance I'll never get because of the poor decision to make reliance on a mouse mandatory. |
| 03:14.37 | weab | but i just never found it necessary like i expected |
| 03:14.42 | ckknight | Tain, I agree. |
| 03:14.51 | ckknight | Ordog, just wondering about that mouse buttons. |
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| 03:14.56 | TheKarn | Tain, in my old guild our MT use to play just on keyboard |
| 03:15.00 | pastamancer | I'm fairly certain parallels handles mouse button translation properly |
| 03:15.08 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:15.10 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:15.25 | ckknight | well, worst case scenario I could return it if I hate it |
| 03:15.30 | Tain | You can't play without a mouse. |
| 03:15.45 | ckknight | also, do you recommend going to the apple store or buying it over the internet? |
| 03:15.57 | pastamancer | it seems like something that's too sensible to fuck up (right-click for mactops running windows) |
| 03:15.57 | Tain | There are certain functions that don't have direct keyboard equivilents. |
| 03:16.01 | [_Trimble_] | ckknight: having a problem with fubar.. is that yours? |
| 03:16.02 | mjc | you can't get refurb fro the store |
| 03:16.09 | mjc | and you can't get custom configs form the store |
| 03:16.09 | ckknight | [_Trimble_], yes, but I'm quite busy. |
| 03:16.20 | [_Trimble_] | ok, another time then ;) no biggie |
| 03:16.22 | mjc | pastamancer: works fine here |
| 03:16.27 | ckknight | mjc, hrm... |
| 03:16.33 | mjc | pastamancer: ctrl-click works in windows with the mac driver disk |
| 03:16.49 | pastamancer | mjc: ah, that makes sense |
| 03:16.53 | mjc | ckknight: if you don't mind not having either, go get it from the store |
| 03:17.09 | Makk | how do I make a slashcommand that only prints a text and does a function? |
| 03:17.19 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.25 | Makk | nono |
| 03:17.26 | Makk | like |
| 03:17.31 | Makk | /mdp lock |
| 03:17.43 | Makk | a toggle |
| 03:17.44 | nymbia | type = 'execute', |
| 03:17.48 | nymbia | ? |
| 03:17.52 | Makk | thanks <3 |
| 03:17.56 | nymbia | :) |
| 03:18.02 | DrZoot|ZzZz | is there any good way to tell if im in combat? a function call is kinda what im looking for |
| 03:18.10 | ckknight | mjc, well, I want the student discount |
| 03:18.13 | Nargiddley | InCombatLockdown() |
| 03:18.15 | ckknight | mjc, would that affect anything |
| 03:18.17 | ckknight | ? |
| 03:18.20 | mjc | ckknight: no student discount on refurbs |
| 03:18.22 | rw3 | DrZoot|ZzZz: or PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 03:18.31 | mjc | should be able to get it from the store |
| 03:18.35 | ckknight | mjc, not worrying about refurbs |
| 03:18.54 | mjc | refurb discount is more than student discount and isn't a one-time-per-year deal |
| 03:19.01 | Makk | nymbia: how do i set which function to execute? |
| 03:19.10 | ckknight | looks like I want a standard MacBook Pro, with student discount, and with the OneCare dealy |
| 03:19.16 | nymbia | Makk: func = function() |
| 03:19.19 | ckknight | Makk, func = function() blah end |
| 03:19.20 | DrZoot | thanks, rw3 and Nargiddley |
| 03:19.27 | Makk | :)) |
| 03:19.28 | ckknight | Makk, read the wiki... |
| 03:19.34 | Makk | ok, sorry. |
| 03:19.37 | mjc | ckknight: student discount is like $200ish, whereas refurb is nearly $700ish |
| 03:19.46 | nymbia | Makk: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table |
| 03:19.54 | ckknight | mjc, hrm, yea, but I can't find any refurbs the same quality |
| 03:20.01 | mjc | quality? |
| 03:20.25 | ckknight | hardware-wise |
| 03:20.27 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21733 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: forgot to switch to a temporary table for the cartographer db. |
| 03:20.34 | TheKarn | who cares about quality? it's a macbook, its "pretty"... :P |
| 03:20.56 | nymbia | ~flame TheKarn |
| 03:20.58 | purl | TheKarn, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 03:20.58 | ckknight | don't troll. |
| 03:20.58 | *** join/#wowace Gorlum (n=opera@82.207.37.202) |
| 03:21.02 | ckknight | it's okay to have you opinion |
| 03:21.02 | mjc | ckknight: memory, cpu, disk, video cards are upgradable |
| 03:21.05 | Gorlum | Hi everyone. |
| 03:21.11 | ckknight | hey Gorlum |
| 03:21.22 | mjc | very hard to find apple upgrades though |
| 03:21.50 | Gorlum | Is there is any Ace/Ace2 addon that can replace MetaMapKB? |
| 03:21.50 | mjc | cartographer* |
| 03:22.00 | Gorlum | mjc: Does it have NPC database? |
| 03:22.03 | TheKarn | "yey! eragon saved the day!" |
| 03:22.11 | ckknight | no, Gorlum |
| 03:22.13 | ckknight | not made yet. |
| 03:22.17 | ckknight | keyword yet |
| 03:22.38 | a-stray-cat | i hear eragon sucks |
| 03:22.38 | Gorlum | ckknight: Sad :( |
| 03:22.49 | Gorlum | ckknight: BTW you THE ckknight? :) |
| 03:22.53 | ckknight | yes. |
| 03:22.56 | nymbia | lol |
| 03:22.56 | ckknight | one and only |
| 03:23.34 | Gorlum | Wow! Great to see you alive! Just want to thanks for great FuBar addon! And not only FuBar :) |
| 03:23.49 | TheKarn | ~emulate ckknight |
| 03:23.51 | purl | file a bug. |
| 03:24.03 | ckknight | Gorlum, I also wrote Cartographer |
| 03:24.07 | ckknight | and a hefty chunk of Ace2 |
| 03:24.09 | ckknight | and other stuff |
| 03:24.16 | Gorlum | Yeah, I know. |
| 03:24.23 | TheKarn | but we ignore that |
| 03:24.28 | Gorlum | Great job you've done :) |
| 03:24.31 | a-stray-cat | its all about fubar, clearly. |
| 03:24.31 | ckknight | :-) |
| 03:24.32 | TheKarn | to us, he's just an annoying op. |
| 03:24.37 | *** mode/#wowace [-v TheKarn] by ckknight |
| 03:24.42 | nymbia | oh burn |
| 03:24.45 | TheKarn | lol |
| 03:24.48 | a-stray-cat | :O |
| 03:24.48 | Gorlum | LOL |
| 03:24.58 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21734 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: update Zul'Farrak loot, i love you nymbia |
| 03:25.07 | nymbia | :o |
| 03:25.15 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 03:25.18 | nymbia | :) |
| 03:25.27 | TheKarn | damn i feel abused |
| 03:25.29 | Gorlum | FuBar was just before Ace2 :P |
| 03:25.35 | TheKarn | ~emulate ckknight |
| 03:25.37 | purl | suck it, biatches |
| 03:25.45 | ckknight | yea, FuBar came before Ace2 |
| 03:25.46 | Gorlum | So you would be always remembered as FuBar creator :) |
| 03:25.48 | nymbia | lol how many of those are there |
| 03:25.54 | nymbia | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 03:25.55 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "(<action>quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>f*ck you, guy|<reply>You know why? Because you touch yourself at night|<reply>your mom's <foo>|<reply>file a bug.|<reply>pimpness.|<reply>suck it, biatches|<reply>Get me a full debugstack, puny mortal.|<reply>hrm)" |
| 03:26.20 | nymbia | rofl |
| 03:26.24 | ckknight | I never asked for a debugstack and called someone a puny mortal at the same time |
| 03:26.31 | ckknight | it's one followed by the other |
| 03:26.34 | nymbia | but you shouldve, obviously. |
| 03:26.47 | TheKarn | ~thekarn |
| 03:26.48 | purl | THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN! |
| 03:26.57 | Gorlum | ckknight: You would duplicate MetaMap functionality in Cartographer later? |
| 03:26.58 | ckknight | indoor voice. |
| 03:27.05 | ckknight | Gorlum, I stole almost all of it. |
| 03:27.10 | Gorlum | lol |
| 03:27.13 | ckknight | not the knowledge base though |
| 03:27.20 | ckknight | and I also stole a bunch of AlphaMap's features |
| 03:27.22 | nymbia | and made it about 12 times more efficient ;) |
| 03:27.23 | ckknight | and a few other |
| 03:27.31 | ckknight | yea, the efficiency's a big one |
| 03:27.32 | Gorlum | Alphamap is cool :) |
| 03:27.36 | ckknight | cause I never copied code |
| 03:27.43 | ckknight | I instead copied concepts |
| 03:27.46 | Gorlum | Would you implement KB functionality? |
| 03:27.54 | ckknight | and found ways to make em much more efficient |
| 03:27.58 | ckknight | Gorlum, maybe... |
| 03:28.01 | ckknight | later, though |
| 03:28.09 | ckknight | my current hurdle is dealing with instance textures |
| 03:28.16 | ckknight | and buying a new computer |
| 03:28.38 | Gorlum | Lol. |
| 03:28.44 | Gorlum | Did you have PayPal account? |
| 03:28.49 | ckknight | I think I do |
| 03:28.58 | pastamancer | ckknight: stitching together the minimap files? |
| 03:29.02 | ckknight | yes, pastamancer |
| 03:29.03 | Gorlum | address, please? I wish to help you a little with last task. |
| 03:29.07 | ckknight | I've done it with RFC. |
| 03:29.17 | ckknight | shiny |
| 03:29.46 | Gorlum | BTW is anyone knows when forums on WowAce would become alive? |
| 03:29.51 | ckknight | paypal confuses me |
| 03:29.52 | pastamancer | hmm, I'll poke at it with winmpq |
| 03:29.55 | ckknight | Gorlum, alive for me |
| 03:30.03 | ckknight | pastamancer, poke at the WMO files and texture positions. |
| 03:30.06 | ckknight | that's my current hurdle |
| 03:30.06 | nymbia | Gorlum: working here too |
| 03:30.11 | ckknight | I have no way to find texture positions. |
| 03:30.12 | Gorlum | Ups... Which URL please? |
| 03:30.15 | ckknight | it's in the WMO, though |
| 03:30.20 | nymbia | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php |
| 03:30.24 | ckknight | yep. |
| 03:30.39 | Gorlum | Oh.Thank you very much! |
| 03:31.00 | ckknight | hrm, how do I set up my paypal to accept donations? |
| 03:31.01 | Gorlum | Can anyone advice me some Ace/Ace2 replacement for some addons? |
| 03:31.03 | ckknight | confusing |
| 03:31.09 | ckknight | Gorlum, on the wiki, there's a list |
| 03:31.09 | ckknight | afaik |
| 03:31.13 | pastamancer | ckknight: whatever I come up with, it'll be in perl |
| 03:31.15 | TheKarn | ckknight i dont think you need to do anything |
| 03:31.21 | ckknight | pastamancer, no problem at all with that. |
| 03:31.24 | TheKarn | someone just pays your address some money |
| 03:31.30 | ckknight | how do I find my address? |
| 03:31.33 | Gorlum | ckknight: I think you just need to accept payment in paypal. |
| 03:31.33 | TheKarn | but you have to have a way to take the money out of your paypal account |
| 03:31.34 | Gorlum | That's all |
| 03:31.35 | mjc | email address |
| 03:31.39 | TheKarn | its your email address you signed up for |
| 03:31.43 | Gorlum | Yeah, TheKarn right |
| 03:31.45 | ckknight | Gorlum, ckknight at gmail |
| 03:32.44 | nymbia | Gorlum: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace_Alternatives_to_Common_Addons - but also just browse wowace.com/files |
| 03:33.52 | kergoth | quixote needs to stop going apeshit |
| 03:33.56 | kergoth | its up to 2100 errors now |
| 03:34.12 | Gorlum | ckknight: sent. Check paypal :) Not too much but all I can do... |
| 03:34.20 | Gorlum | nymbia: thanks |
| 03:34.36 | nymbia | sure |
| 03:34.56 | ckknight | woohoo, Gorlum |
| 03:34.58 | ckknight | you're a pimp |
| 03:35.05 | ckknight | um, want a feature? |
| 03:35.18 | Gorlum | BTW anyone has EQCompare working? Can't make it work with "show" key. |
| 03:35.22 | nymbia | that goes toward the ckknight's new computer fund ;) |
| 03:36.02 | Gorlum | ckknight: KB-one in cartographer :) However I sent money not for feature - just to support you in your great work. |
| 03:36.46 | ckknight | Gorlum, hrm, after I'm done with my computer woes and instance woes, I'll look into it. |
| 03:36.51 | nymbia | Gorlum: what does that do, anyway? creates a database of npcs, right? then does it show what vendors sell and trainers train, or is it not that in-depth? |
| 03:36.51 | ckknight | so, ETA 1 week or so |
| 03:38.50 | pastamancer | the metamap kb was just who, where, level range |
| 03:38.53 | Gorlum | Just NPC database with title. |
| 03:39.09 | Gorlum | So I can search for "trader" in, say, orgimmar. |
| 03:39.09 | nymbia | ah |
| 03:39.31 | *** join/#wowace Tomed (n=Tomed@c-68-45-74-114.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:39.40 | Gorlum | If you can make additional list who sale what it would be superb! Beyond all expectations. |
| 03:40.06 | Gorlum | However "who where" is enouph. |
| 03:40.07 | nymbia | my only concern is that even stored efficiently, that could get a bit on the hefty side |
| 03:40.56 | Gorlum | LOL. Look at Auctioneer. It stores huge amount of data and operates pretty well. |
| 03:40.58 | pastamancer | yeah, it was definitely on the hefty side since it picked up new mobs on mouseover |
| 03:41.55 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r21735 10MainAssist/ (MainAssist.lua MainAssist_enUS.lua): |
| 03:41.55 | CIA-17 | MainAssist: |
| 03:41.55 | CIA-17 | - Added tooltip to the FuBar plugin that shows every unit someone is targeting and who in the raid/party is targeting it |
| 03:42.08 | ckknight | pastamancer, hrm... maybe it could delete irrelevant mobs after a certain point... |
| 03:42.11 | ckknight | and such |
| 03:42.16 | Nargiddley | whoever was after a way to see who's not assisting a day or so ago, try that :D |
| 03:42.23 | *** join/#wowace Scion (i=SOY@l2-202-89-181-92.arach.net.au) |
| 03:42.47 | Gorlum | There is some problem with detection of "irrelevent" mob... |
| 03:42.51 | pastamancer | ckknight: well, afaik, it stored a mob name once and then had a bounding box of points seen and a level range |
| 03:43.05 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 03:43.26 | ckknight | well, I'm thinking that it doesn't have to store level range |
| 03:43.34 | ckknight | as that can be figured out through Tourist |
| 03:43.38 | pastamancer | the bounding box wasn't always as accurate as I would have liked |
| 03:44.05 | Gorlum | "Bounding circle" sounds better to me :) |
| 03:44.09 | pastamancer | well, it's just mobs[mobName].lowestlevelseen and mobs[mobName].highestlevelseen |
| 03:44.11 | Funkeh` | there should be 1 global language for the universe |
| 03:44.17 | Funkeh` | i hate locales |
| 03:44.37 | Makk | mm |
| 03:44.38 | pastamancer | or mobs.lowestlevelseen[mobname] |
| 03:44.40 | ckknight | pastamancer, hrm... so not just NPCs? |
| 03:44.46 | ckknight | pastamancer, that's what I was thinking. |
| 03:44.55 | Gorlum | Funkeh: English fits good enouph for you? |
| 03:45.03 | pastamancer | it picked up NPCs and creatures |
| 03:45.12 | Gorlum | ckknight: MOBs too. |
| 03:45.29 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:45.34 | ckknight | and you want position for mobs? |
| 03:45.47 | pastamancer | it was handy when I used it |
| 03:45.56 | pastamancer | saved me a lot of time alt-tabbing to thottbot |
| 03:45.58 | Gorlum | Yeah. Searching of mob or npc should mark it location on map. |
| 03:46.08 | Gorlum | Or their range on map. |
| 03:46.23 | Gorlum | This is sense of MetaMapKB functionality. |
| 03:47.09 | Gorlum | Just look at MetaMap functionality. |
| 03:47.40 | Gorlum | May be not one bouncing box as MetaMapKB but several smal boxes like ThottBot. |
| 03:47.46 | Gorlum | For greater accuration. |
| 03:47.51 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:47.53 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21736 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: rip the Zul'Farrak locales from cartographer |
| 03:47.58 | ckknight | seems both complicated and heavyweight |
| 03:48.06 | pastamancer | it was both |
| 03:48.06 | Gorlum | However realization is up to you :) |
| 03:48.32 | Makk | only thing missing now is actually saving where a frame gets locked |
| 03:48.40 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21737 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/ (enUS.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua): Cartographer: Remove Zul'Farrak locales |
| 03:48.48 | ckknight | good stuff, Funkeh` |
| 03:48.56 | Funkeh` | ty |
| 03:49.02 | mjc | good stuff |
| 03:49.04 | Gorlum | Why heavyweight? Divide map for x squares. Then just fill square which contains searhed mob/npc |
| 03:49.18 | Makk | can't figure out GetPoint(), though |
| 03:49.29 | ckknight | Gorlum, that's 1 table per square |
| 03:49.36 | ckknight | 32 bytes per square |
| 03:49.39 | Gorlum | With choosing proper x you can make lightweight DB with acceptable |
| 03:49.42 | ckknight | plus 32 bytes per mob-type |
| 03:49.59 | ckknight | assuming we have 100 horizontal squares, we have 67 vertical squares |
| 03:50.03 | ckknight | or 6700 total squares |
| 03:50.15 | pastamancer | it'll make auctioneer look svelte ;) |
| 03:50.21 | Gorlum | Yeah. |
| 03:50.23 | ckknight | so that's 214400 bytes per map with no mobs. |
| 03:50.24 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@66.225.8.145) |
| 03:50.26 | Gorlum | Does it fear you? |
| 03:50.28 | ckknight | icky. |
| 03:50.38 | Gorlum | You don't need 214400 bytes. |
| 03:50.56 | Gorlum | In mob's attributes you just list all squares where this mob is/are. |
| 03:51.07 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 03:51.10 | Gorlum | Something like: Giant Mob, squares 96,99,120. |
| 03:51.10 | ckknight | also doable |
| 03:51.21 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 03:51.21 | Gorlum | Am I saying something really stupid? :( |
| 03:51.24 | ckknight | no, actually. |
| 03:51.45 | Gorlum | Nice :) |
| 03:51.45 | pastamancer | throw a string.gmatch at it? |
| 03:52.04 | Gorlum | Pastamancer: Didn't knew LUA too good to answer... |
| 03:52.21 | pastamancer | as long as you're only showing one mob at a time and use a temp table after you parse the serialized locations it wouldn't be *too* bad |
| 03:52.38 | ckknight | pastamancer, or a string.split |
| 03:52.47 | pastamancer | oh, right. that's a new one |
| 03:52.49 | ckknight | but a gmatch would do as well |
| 03:52.54 | ckknight | probably better |
| 03:53.05 | ckknight | but that seems quite doable, actually. |
| 03:53.20 | ckknight | you could have zone = { mob = {} } |
| 03:53.20 | Gorlum | Pastamancer: I din't need to know exact location of every mob. Just suqare. |
| 03:53.22 | ckknight | that could work... |
| 03:53.23 | pastamancer | metamapkb "showed" mobs by creating a ton of mapnotes |
| 03:53.34 | pastamancer | and used "metamapkb" as the creatore |
| 03:53.39 | pastamancer | s/creatore/creator |
| 03:53.40 | Gorlum | MetaMap works wrong :) |
| 03:53.56 | pastamancer | and there was also a button to remove all notes created by metamapkb on the current map |
| 03:54.02 | ckknight | how should Carto show it? |
| 03:54.27 | ckknight | I mean, it could quite easily show by making map notes |
| 03:54.28 | Gorlum | Approximate location is enouuph in 99,99^ cases. |
| 03:54.28 | ckknight | and then deleting them soon after |
| 03:54.44 | Gorlum | I thinking about coloring squares by filters. |
| 03:54.54 | Gorlum | Map notes is OK for single NPC./ |
| 03:55.34 | Gorlum | Square filling is good for mobs. |
| 03:56.22 | Gorlum | You can choose different colors/alphas for different count of mobs. |
| 03:56.29 | Gorlum | Light for less, dark for more. |
| 03:57.12 | Gorlum | (It's all about "Ideal KB". Just MetaMapKB-like implementation would be fine) |
| 03:57.37 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Joshua@adsl-219-43-188.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:58.49 | pastamancer | I can't think of a good reason to show more than one mob |
| 03:58.52 | pastamancer | at a time that is |
| 03:59.26 | Gorlum | When one class of mob located in severals areas of map. |
| 03:59.41 | Gorlum | I like to know about all areas to select nearest. |
| 04:01.58 | pastamancer | that's still one mob at a time, is it not? |
| 04:02.44 | ckknight | yea, one mob-type at a time would be fine. |
| 04:02.51 | Gorlum | Ah, sure! |
| 04:02.54 | pastamancer | mob-type? |
| 04:03.01 | ckknight | pastamancer, mob name. |
| 04:03.04 | Gorlum | By filter. |
| 04:03.06 | Makk | yay |
| 04:03.07 | pastamancer | oh, yes |
| 04:03.08 | ckknight | multiple mobs, all with the same name |
| 04:03.14 | ckknight | easy to filter and such |
| 04:03.16 | ckknight | seems doable |
| 04:03.22 | ckknight | and more than that, could be efficient. |
| 04:03.26 | Gorlum | lol |
| 04:03.28 | pastamancer | simplifies the temp table usage |
| 04:03.32 | ckknight | yea. |
| 04:03.35 | ckknight | idea: |
| 04:03.54 | ckknight | "Mulgore:12,33,754;The Barrens:12,74,96" |
| 04:04.01 | Gorlum | Exactly. |
| 04:04.10 | pastamancer | x,y,? |
| 04:04.20 | Gorlum | Only for NPCs. |
| 04:04.22 | ckknight | pastamancer, no, those are just numbers |
| 04:04.28 | ckknight | represent squares |
| 04:04.33 | Gorlum | Yes. It shows squares. |
| 04:04.34 | Gorlum | lol |
| 04:04.46 | pastamancer | oh, I see |
| 04:04.48 | ckknight | since it's not accurate (i.e. accurate to ~250 yards) |
| 04:04.57 | ckknight | give or take. |
| 04:05.00 | Gorlum | For mobs it's more then enouph |
| 04:05.23 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:05.26 | Gorlum | However for NPC I'd rather prefer exact coordinates with MapNote |
| 04:05.33 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:05.45 | Gorlum | "Roaming NPC" however would be represented by squares. |
| 04:05.49 | Gorlum | It's OK |
| 04:05.49 | ckknight | for uniques (bosses, NPCs, etc) it could be a proper accurate one |
| 04:05.57 | ckknight | how would one tell if he's roaming? |
| 04:06.07 | Gorlum | For unique and stationary NPC, yes. |
| 04:06.11 | ckknight | complicated |
| 04:06.15 | Gorlum | Nope. |
| 04:06.29 | Gorlum | NPC is "roaming" if he meets in several squares. |
| 04:06.35 | Gorlum | For ex. Rexxar |
| 04:06.49 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 04:06.56 | ckknight | ah, I could make it accurate the first time |
| 04:07.06 | ckknight | then if it's different the second time, change to roaming |
| 04:07.08 | Gorlum | It's NPC. It's unique. It's roaming. So he would be represented as mobs - with list of maps/sqiuares |
| 04:07.15 | Gorlum | Exactly |
| 04:07.23 | ckknight | sounds workable to me |
| 04:07.55 | rw3 | Well for the second time you see him compare those coordinates to the original ones.. if the differnece is big enough in x,y then add a new location to the table in addition to old one? |
| 04:07.55 | Gorlum | However you should allow NPC some "delta" - slightly differ in coordinates. |
| 04:08.22 | Gorlum | rw3: No. Change records from "X,Y", to "Map Name: square, square, square..." |
| 04:08.27 | mjc | a synchronization feature would be really helpful in this kind of instance |
| 04:08.38 | Gorlum | MJC: It's prohibited AFAIR> |
| 04:08.48 | mjc | ? |
| 04:08.53 | mjc | how |
| 04:08.53 | Gorlum | It's just like Gatherer's DB of minerals/etc. |
| 04:09.06 | Gorlum | As long as you used your own gathered DB - - it's ok |
| 04:09.14 | Gorlum | If you share it - it' prohibited. |
| 04:09.23 | ckknight | meh, you can share with Cartographer |
| 04:09.24 | Gorlum | Look discussion at gatherer's homepage. |
| 04:09.26 | ckknight | I'm not taking it out |
| 04:09.33 | Gorlum | Good for us :) |
| 04:10.33 | mjc | not possible to disable that kind of thing... |
| 04:12.47 | mjc | where's the loot mod I saw fly by on cia earlier? |
| 04:13.34 | *** join/#wowace mjc_ (n=mjc@c-71-206-92-120.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 04:14.29 | mjc_ | blah |
| 04:19.00 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21738 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: fix ZF |
| 04:20.57 | mjc_ | kergoth: gd my .svk is huge |
| 04:21.03 | mjc_ | 1.2G uncompressed |
| 04:21.46 | kergoth | sheesh |
| 04:22.10 | kergoth | 1.1G here |
| 04:22.13 | mjc_ | kergoth: trying to reboot my only box capable of running wow. is BoD still floundering around in ZG waiting for me? :( |
| 04:22.42 | kergoth | still sitting here, filling the last couple spots slowly but surely |
| 04:23.03 | mjc_ | k, well I'm waiting on this piece of shite |
| 04:23.20 | mjc_ | windows is the suck, I don't know why I bother with it for two retarded apps |
| 04:23.22 | kergoth | k |
| 04:24.02 | mjc_ | checking my 750GB (mostly full) partition is even worse |
| 04:24.18 | mjc_ | cause macdrive isn't exactly zippy before the GUI loads for some reason |
| 04:24.55 | mjc_ | wish microsnot would provide a native HFS+ driver |
| 04:26.00 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan * r21739 10/branches/Bits/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:26.01 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 04:26.01 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.02 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21740 10FuBar_KungFu/ (6 files): FuBar_KungFu: Add vhaarr's spiffy hint-coloring. |
| 04:26.13 | Tain | Why would MS cater to a tiny amount of people running HFS+ |
| 04:26.17 | KarlThePagan | bah .swp file lol |
| 04:26.26 | KarlThePagan | fixing |
| 04:27.10 | mjc_ | their VFS layer is pretty shite-y, it's amazing macdrive works at all |
| 04:27.36 | mjc_ | but it does, pretty well at that |
| 04:27.56 | pastamancer | why bootcamp vs. parallels? |
| 04:28.00 | mjc_ | few minor bugs that hit me cause I use lots of ginormous files on a ginormous HFS+ partition |
| 04:28.01 | mjc_ | pastamancer: wow |
| 04:28.06 | Prophy | whats the setting to enable "channel joins and leaves" in prat? |
| 04:28.08 | mjc_ | I boot my bootcamp partition in parallels anyways |
| 04:28.25 | pastamancer | wow runs nicely on osx though |
| 04:28.25 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21741 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: add Sandfury Executioner(ZF) |
| 04:30.00 | KarlThePagan | well... good thing i checked into branch |
| 04:30.37 | mjc_ | pastamancer: ventrilo, innerspace |
| 04:30.48 | *** join/#wowace zoomjr (n=hrenvam@87.229.149.25) |
| 04:31.02 | pastamancer | ah, IS |
| 04:31.11 | Tain | Innerspace, that movie was funny. |
| 04:31.19 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r21742 10Bits/ (.Bits.toc.swp Bits-1.0/ Bits.toc): |
| 04:31.19 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 04:31.20 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.23 | pastamancer | is Lax still an asshole? |
| 04:33.09 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r21743 10Bits/Bits/ (. Bits-1.0/ Bits-1.0/Bits-1.0.lua Bits.toc): |
| 04:33.09 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 04:33.09 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.02 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21744 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: fix my last commit |
| 04:36.47 | Makk | dpbar:SetPoint(self.db.profile.point, self.db.profile.rel, self.db.profile.relpoint, self.db.profile.lockx, self.db.profile.locky) |
| 04:36.50 | Makk | how is that wrong? =/ |
| 04:38.14 | pastamancer | self.db.profile.rel |
| 04:38.23 | rw3 | it's supposed to be a frame |
| 04:38.25 | pastamancer | you can't save frames directly in savedvariables |
| 04:38.36 | pastamancer | store the frame name instead |
| 04:38.37 | rw3 | indeed-o |
| 04:38.43 | ckknight | actually, you can... but I don't recommend it |
| 04:38.49 | ckknight | since it only works with XML frames and such |
| 04:38.55 | Makk | ok |
| 04:38.58 | pastamancer | ckknight: it broke / will break soon |
| 04:39.00 | Makk | how do I do it then? |
| 04:39.10 | ckknight | pastamancer, hrm |
| 04:39.15 | pastamancer | frame:GetName() and getglobal(self.db.profile.relname) |
| 04:39.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:39.30 | ckknight | do that. |
| 04:40.04 | pastamancer | make sure the frame exists first though ;) |
| 04:40.44 | sylvanaar | nice job on the buggrabber coloring |
| 04:40.50 | ckknight | how early would the Apple Store open? |
| 04:41.02 | pastamancer | certainly by 9am |
| 04:41.04 | sylvanaar | apple - never before 10 |
| 04:41.08 | pastamancer | really? |
| 04:41.17 | Makk | i just set it to UIParent for now |
| 04:41.24 | sylvanaar | im kidding sory |
| 04:41.24 | Makk | still getting usage errors |
| 04:41.33 | ckknight | pastamancer, hrm, okay |
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| 04:41.45 | ckknight | cause I'll likely go down and get it tomorrow |
| 04:41.58 | sylvanaar | ~visor2 |
| 04:42.09 | Makk | oops, stupid me :P |
| 04:42.10 | Makk | nvm |
| 04:42.25 | pastamancer | ckknight: you're in Hawaii, right? |
| 04:42.31 | ckknight | sure am |
| 04:42.36 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r21745 10Bits/Bits/: |
| 04:42.36 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 04:42.36 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.36 | pastamancer | 9:30 |
| 04:42.37 | Gorlum | Does Tekkub looking forward to fixing Engravings? |
| 04:42.40 | ckknight | you sure? |
| 04:42.45 | ckknight | why would it be later? |
| 04:42.49 | pastamancer | http://www.apple.com/retail/alamoana/week/20061217.html |
| 04:42.56 | ckknight | oh |
| 04:42.56 | Tekkub | I'm working on all my stuff, bit by bit |
| 04:43.19 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, let me know if anything's wrong with my SVN structure - I think that's how the other branches work |
| 04:43.44 | ckknight | KarlThePagan, *shrug* |
| 04:43.46 | ckknight | seems fine |
| 04:43.53 | KarlThePagan | righto |
| 04:43.59 | Gorlum | Nice. Any ETA? |
| 04:44.08 | ckknight | pastamancer, ah, 8 AM tomorrow (holiday hours) |
| 04:44.16 | pastamancer | ah, nice |
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| 04:45.12 | Gorlum | ckknight: BTW does Cartographer supports import/export from Gatherer? |
| 04:45.27 | Gorlum | ckknight: Or is there any ready DBs? |
| 04:45.48 | mjc_ | kergoth: rez inc |
| 04:46.01 | mjc_ | cartographer_import might help you |
| 04:46.11 | Gorlum | mjc_: ThNks. |
| 04:47.35 | Gorlum | mjc_: Does it need Gatherer to bu started up or works with LUA files? |
| 04:47.43 | mjc_ | I have no idea. |
| 04:47.45 | mjc_ | jsut saw it on svn |
| 04:47.58 | pastamancer | ckknight: already have a laptop bag? |
| 04:48.05 | Gorlum | mjc_: Oh. Ok. |
| 04:48.51 | Gorlum | ckknight: Does cartographer_import need Gatherer to be started for import? |
| 04:49.54 | Ordog | Gorlum: No |
| 04:50.05 | Gorlum | Ordog: Thanks. |
| 04:51.06 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21746 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: add dead hero(ZF) |
| 04:51.43 | Ordog | have herbalism and mining enabled in cartograph before you log out to import (by loggin in with import addon loaded) |
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| 04:53.46 | Gorlum | Ordog: Thanks again. |
| 04:55.10 | ckknight | yes, Gorlum |
| 04:55.17 | ckknight | pastamancer, I use my backpack |
| 04:55.54 | pastamancer | ah, ok. I was going to recommend tom bihn if you didn't have a good bag already |
| 04:56.08 | ckknight | really, I need to keep books and my binder in it as well |
| 04:56.23 | ckknight | and it's less likely someone would steal a backpack than a laptop bag |
| 04:56.49 | pastamancer | oh, I like my targus backpack, but if I didn't live in cambridge, it would probably scream "mug me" |
| 04:57.03 | cheers | lol |
| 04:57.11 | kenlyric|home | i've been to cambridge. |
| 04:57.27 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21747 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer: add Sandfury Executioner(ZF) |
| 04:57.37 | kenlyric|home | you don't really need anything scream mug me. |
| 04:57.40 | pastamancer | you're wierd if you *don't* have an ipod in cambridge |
| 04:57.57 | cheers | hrm. thxfor the reminder |
| 04:57.59 | ckknight | Funkeh`, has InstanceNotes been converted to the DB version 2? (more accurate coords) |
| 04:58.13 | kenlyric|home | right. Everyone is equally mugable. |
| 04:58.30 | ckknight | I don't have an iPod |
| 04:58.30 | kenlyric|home | my ipod doesn't work anymore. |
| 04:58.35 | kenlyric|home | It didn't like the washer. |
| 04:58.36 | ckknight | I see no use for it, honestly. |
| 04:59.07 | kenlyric|home | yeah, what's with these kids today and their TEEVEE and musics. |
| 04:59.14 | cheers | my iPod has 1 use, and one use only. |
| 04:59.22 | cheers | to keep me from going nuts in SEATAC |
| 04:59.27 | kenlyric|home | the ipod is for porn. |
| 04:59.33 | cheers | it does it's job well. |
| 04:59.38 | Tain | SETAC Astronomy? |
| 04:59.42 | cheers | kenlyric|home: no it's not... it doesn't vibrate :P |
| 04:59.49 | cheers | Tain: Seatac airport |
| 04:59.55 | kenlyric|home | cheers, neither do dvds. |
| 05:00.06 | Makk | DewDrop is BRILLIANT |
| 05:00.14 | cheers | kenlyric|home: DVD's aren't hand-held, though |
| 05:00.50 | kenlyric|home | neither is the internet. |
| 05:00.54 | kenlyric|home | but it is also for porn. |
| 05:01.01 | ckknight | http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/new-hp/layout/christmas06/ne-center_02.jpg |
| 05:01.10 | pastamancer | your internet doesn't vibrate?! |
| 05:01.41 | cheers | ken's internet is obviosuly broken |
| 05:01.43 | sylvanaar | who is the visor dev anyone know? |
| 05:01.46 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 05:02.45 | kenlyric|home | and anyway, they have itunes phones now. Those vibrate. |
| 05:03.09 | Tain | It's a shame no one knows the reference to SETEC Astronomy off the top of their head. |
| 05:04.06 | kenlyric|home | my brain recognizes it, but can't connect it to anything. |
| 05:05.14 | Fetch | Tain: too many secrets |
| 05:05.20 | Fetch | Tain: did someone seriously not get that? |
| 05:05.30 | Daemona | tain |
| 05:05.34 | Daemona | too many secrets |
| 05:05.46 | pastamancer | ha |
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| 05:06.08 | Makk | YAY |
| 05:06.11 | kenlyric|home | one of the many movies I've never seen. |
| 05:06.11 | Tain | One of the only good "hacker" type movies, ever. |
| 05:06.12 | Makk | first addon made |
| 05:06.15 | Makk | feels niiice :D |
| 05:06.23 | Akinraze | anyone know the word on Praid status? |
| 05:06.24 | Fetch | what? _Hackers_ and _Antitrust_ were brilliant |
| 05:06.37 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.48 | kenlyric|home | only with a computer-generated definition of brilliant. |
| 05:06.49 | pastamancer | Fetch: The Net too :p |
| 05:06.53 | Tain | Hackers was bubblegum amusing at least. |
| 05:07.00 | kenlyric|home | zomg, the screen is melting! it's a virus! |
| 05:07.18 | kenlyric|home | any movie that kills Dennis Miller is alright by me.\ |
| 05:07.30 | Tain | The one thing I'll give to the movie Hackers is they reference stuff that was actually true in the early 80s. |
| 05:07.45 | kenlyric|home | too bad it was made in the early 90s :) |
| 05:07.50 | Tain | Yep! |
| 05:07.51 | Tain | haha |
| 05:07.59 | kenlyric|home | never seen hackers either. |
| 05:08.12 | pastamancer | it's kitschy |
| 05:08.16 | Makk | http://makken.info/mDarkPact.rar |
| 05:08.17 | Makk | :D |
| 05:08.18 | ckknight | Hackers was so realistic |
| 05:08.23 | ckknight | only one movie I know that's moreso |
| 05:08.26 | ckknight | Swordfish. |
| 05:08.27 | Tain | Hackers was a bunch of hacking cliches but they were cliches that had some basis in truth. |
| 05:08.33 | pastamancer | ckknight: lol |
| 05:08.40 | kenlyric|home | all movies will eventually arrive through netflix. |
| 05:08.40 | ckknight | I mean, coding with the seven monitors, how cool is that? |
| 05:08.51 | kenlyric|home | it worked in the Matrix. |
| 05:09.11 | pastamancer | more monitors = more leet |
| 05:09.12 | kergoth | i enjoyed hackers and swordfish both.. certainly not for their realism, but.. |
| 05:09.17 | kenlyric|home | somebody in my office uses four. |
| 05:09.17 | Tain | You know I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really struggle with The Matrix's place in movie history. |
| 05:09.20 | kenlyric|home | we're getting there. |
| 05:09.49 | kenlyric|home | Tain, we can hope that future generations will never see it. |
| 05:10.17 | kenlyric|home | maybe 2 and 3 will be destroyed in the second coming of jesus. |
| 05:10.17 | ckknight | honestly, I thought the first one was good |
| 05:10.26 | ckknight | second and third were just bad, though |
| 05:10.33 | Tain | The thing is Hackers was "realish" in so far as some of the things were true. There was a time where it was really easy to hack into credit reporting and screw with people. |
| 05:10.42 | kenlyric|home | I watched the first one recently and was reminded of how bad 2 and 3 are. |
| 05:10.48 | Tain | And you could get a HELL of a lot of information on people from grabbing their trash. |
| 05:12.10 | Tain | I'd be surprised if anyone recognized it but, "The basics of CBI" by Spiritwalker told you exactly how to get peoples credit information, way back when CBI was *the* credit reporting company. |
| 05:12.12 | Makk | ~seen Kaelten |
| 05:12.45 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 9h 12m 32s, last said: 'porting what?'. |
| 05:12.45 | kenlyric|home | all we want to do is eat your brains! |
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| 05:12.47 | kenlyric|home | Knight Rider really is an aweful show. |
| 05:13.00 | kenlyric|home | the car is the best actor. |
| 05:13.03 | xgravix | you leave kit alone. |
| 05:13.24 | kenlyric|home | I played with transformers and heman in the 80s, grandpa. |
| 05:13.26 | Tain | I almost bought Knight Rider Season 1 on DVD for my brother as a joke Christmas present. |
| 05:13.52 | Tain | Of course I also amost bought him Fraggle Rock season 1, and Danger Mouse season 1. |
| 05:13.54 | ckknight | I got my mom plumbing valves. |
| 05:13.56 | xgravix | god no, you would increase the sales numbers for the product by 10% |
| 05:13.58 | pastamancer | at least it's not airwolf |
| 05:14.13 | kenlyric|home | Fraggle Rock is awesome. |
| 05:14.36 | kenlyric|home | muppets with 'tude |
| 05:14.42 | Tain | Not to throw your world into a spiral, but a brand new live action Fraggle Rock movie is in the works right now. |
| 05:14.57 | pastamancer | ... live action |
| 05:15.05 | kenlyric|home | well, fraggle rock was live action. |
| 05:15.12 | pastamancer | -ish |
| 05:15.29 | Tain | Well same as the show. People and puppets. |
| 05:15.44 | pastamancer | oh, that's not bad |
| 05:15.45 | kenlyric|home | I can't see the point. |
| 05:15.54 | kenlyric|home | Now, new transformers might be good. |
| 05:16.01 | kenlyric|home | I don't have high hopes... but. |
| 05:16.01 | pastamancer | I was imagining something like the live action grinch, except with fraggles |
| 05:16.58 | Tain | I'm actually not looking forward to the Transformers movie. The bitter, jaded side of me tells me it is going to rape my childhood. |
| 05:17.06 | kenlyric|home | I'm trying to think of cartoons that turned into good live action movies. |
| 05:17.26 | kenlyric|home | Tain, what might help is to know that transformers was raping your childhood while you were a childhood. |
| 05:17.41 | kenlyric|home | ? |
| 05:17.48 | kenlyric|home | *child |
| 05:17.49 | Tain | Transformers the Movie was awesome. |
| 05:18.09 | TransformersTheM | don't worry Tain's childhood, I'll be gentle |
| 05:18.10 | kenlyric|home | Yes, but it was a very long commercial for new toys :) |
| 05:18.37 | Tain | Cartoons that turned into good live action movies... Masters of the Universe with Dolph? ahh.. maybe not so much. |
| 05:18.38 | cheers | how's the documentation comin' pastamancer ? |
| 05:18.40 | kenlyric|home | it's not as bad as pokeman, they were much better at hiding the fact that they were releasing a new toy :) |
| 05:18.52 | pastamancer | cheers: I updated the outline yesterday :) |
| 05:18.53 | kenlyric|home | I know there has to be one, somewhere, out there. |
| 05:19.06 | Tain | I never bought a toy after the movie so if that was its purpose it failed. |
| 05:19.10 | pastamancer | I've actually been doing work at work lately |
| 05:19.18 | Tain | However most of it was a great movie that I still enjoy watching today. |
| 05:19.19 | kenlyric|home | Tain: well, it did fail. |
| 05:19.25 | cheers | hehe |
| 05:19.31 | kenlyric|home | they did go away for many years. |
| 05:19.33 | cheers | yeah, i'm trying to work... not getting to o far though |
| 05:19.52 | Tain | Transformers never recovered because they did stupid things. |
| 05:20.24 | pastamancer | beastwars was the beginning of the end :( |
| 05:20.26 | Tain | Beast Wars was the closest to a good story to follow but they had to kill it because the toys weren't as good. Kids didn't want insects to robots. |
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| 05:20.33 | Daemona | damn is it just me or is alliance winning 90% of alterac valley |
| 05:20.40 | Daemona | if you dont bring like 20 man premade |
| 05:20.50 | kenlyric|home | since when could horde win 10% of AV? |
| 05:20.51 | kenlyric|home | http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-live-action-films-based-on-cartoons-and-comics |
| 05:20.58 | kenlyric|home | I've never seen horde win AV, ever. |
| 05:21.05 | kenlyric|home | well, post the AV nerf patch. |
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| 05:21.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 05:21.23 | cheers | kenlyric|home: it happens |
| 05:21.27 | *** part/#wowace slack0ne (n=slack0ne@p146-dialup.snap.net.nz) |
| 05:21.29 | cheers | kenlyric|home: it just takes coordination |
| 05:21.29 | Daemona | well only way i see myself win is with stinkyqueue and 20-30 ppl from the same server |
| 05:21.38 | cheers | Daemona: that's about it |
| 05:21.41 | Daemona | cheers thats a very optimistic description |
| 05:21.46 | ckknight_ | lua -e 'local q=string.char(39); local t = [[print("lua -e "..q.."local q=string.char(39); local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t .. q)]]; print("lua -e "..q.."local q=string.char(39); local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t .. q)' |
| 05:21.49 | cheers | Daemona: yup |
| 05:21.54 | kenlyric|home | nope, not a single good movie has ever come from a cartoon. |
| 05:21.59 | Daemona | the problem is, why can the alliance just zerg along |
| 05:22.04 | Daemona | and the horde cant |
| 05:22.13 | cheers | Daemona: 'cuz the instance isn't mirror-image |
| 05:22.18 | pastamancer | ckknight_: my eyes! |
| 05:22.23 | cheers | also, peraps we're dumbasses |
| 05:22.29 | kenlyric|home | here they are by box office http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-live-action-films-based-on-cartoons-and-comics |
| 05:22.29 | cheers | pastamancer: should i not copy/past that then? ;) |
| 05:22.41 | kenlyric|home | Daemona, because the horde never defend their chokepoint at the tower. |
| 05:22.45 | kenlyric|home | at least on my server. |
| 05:22.49 | Daemona | i know that, but both got that needle-hole right next to their buff bots |
| 05:22.50 | cheers | kenlyric|home: what choke point? |
| 05:22.53 | kenlyric|home | they just post on the forums boohoo that the bridge is boohoo. |
| 05:23.02 | ckknight | pastamancer, ;-) |
| 05:23.04 | pastamancer | pfft, hord has to defend IB if they want to win |
| 05:23.06 | Tain | Uh if you're going from that list then you're wrong. Batman and Batman Begins were both good. |
| 05:23.13 | Daemona | the bridge is lol |
| 05:23.19 | kergoth | i found batman begins to be very good, myself. and hellboy was entertaining. i enjoyed constantine, though most didnt |
| 05:23.24 | kergoth | the crow was good, the sequels blew |
| 05:23.26 | Tain | Well, Batman was good, Batman Begins was awesome. But! Really neither from a cartoon. |
| 05:23.28 | Daemona | i can go and solo tap the bunkers with my twink shadow priest |
| 05:23.39 | kenlyric|home | cheers: you have to ride through a tiny tower and up a slope to make it into the main horde area with their last graveyard and the boss. Horde never defends that. Ever. |
| 05:23.43 | kenlyric|home | (on my server) |
| 05:23.43 | Tain | Hellboy, Crow, Batman, all from comics, not cartoons. |
| 05:23.51 | kenlyric|home | Tain, yeah, that list has comic book movies too. |
| 05:23.58 | kenlyric|home | http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=basedoncartoons.htm this is a better list. |
| 05:24.10 | kergoth | okay, good opint |
| 05:24.17 | cheers | kenlyric|home: you're saying that the chokepoint half-way through our home base is a valid spot to defend? o.O |
| 05:24.32 | cheers | meh. honestly, I'm not interested in having this argument |
| 05:24.41 | Tain | Holy crap Scooby-Doo the movie made tha tmuch money? that's insulsting to me |
| 05:24.46 | cheers | lol |
| 05:24.52 | Daemona | cheers its the best |
| 05:24.56 | Daemona | its so narrow |
| 05:25.01 | Tain | Ok Popeye movie with Robin Williams I liked.. |
| 05:25.05 | Daemona | you can ae with any ae ability there |
| 05:25.12 | Daemona | you can stand on that open wood gate |
| 05:25.18 | Daemona | you can stand on the towers |
| 05:25.19 | kenlyric|home | cheers, any chokepoint is good to defend. It slows people up. Horde doesn't even *try*. |
| 05:25.21 | Daemona | and NUKE like mad |
| 05:25.37 | Gorlum | Is there any Ace/Ace2 replacement for TheryCraft? |
| 05:25.42 | cheers | by the time the alli's hvae pushed back that far, we're broken. :shrug: |
| 05:25.50 | Eej | yay exalted Silvermoon |
| 05:25.53 | mjc_ | kenlyric|home: depends on server group. the one I used to be on, the horde won every time |
| 05:25.54 | Eej | i no longer haev to do AV! |
| 05:26.07 | cheers | thing is, we shouldn't have to stop yu there. we should be able to keep a GY between there & the field of strife |
| 05:26.28 | kenlyric|home | oh god. |
| 05:26.30 | kenlyric|home | Speed Racer WB 5/23/08 |
| 05:26.50 | cheers | lol |
| 05:27.06 | ckknight | well, come 8 AM tomorrow, I'll be getting a new MacBook Pro |
| 05:27.17 | cheers | nice! :) |
| 05:27.32 | cheers | gogo compiling code! |
| 05:27.32 | pastamancer | be sure to buy it dinner before you sex it up ckk |
| 05:27.43 | ckknight | lol. |
| 05:27.52 | ckknight | I'm straight, sorry |
| 05:27.59 | cheers | ckknight: do you game on a mac, as well? |
| 05:28.07 | ckknight | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/apple |
| 05:28.08 | [Cu]Werik | Does anyone know if there is a way to change the default style of the VS2005 text editor? because this white background melts my face |
| 05:28.09 | Daemona | figured out that psu issue? |
| 05:28.12 | Eej | man gaming on a mac just sends shivers down my spine |
| 05:28.15 | cheers | also, you know your MBP is gonna be a sweet little lady |
| 05:28.17 | ckknight | cheers, it'll be my first mac. I only play WoW |
| 05:28.23 | cheers | ckknight: exciting :D |
| 05:28.59 | xgravix | i switched to windows cos of the gaming |
| 05:30.32 | pastamancer | cheers: what'cha working on? |
| 05:30.44 | cheers | pastamancer: atm? making webkit behave |
| 05:30.54 | cheers | in general, I'm the dev team for OmniWeb |
| 05:31.25 | pastamancer | oho, I love omnioutliner and omnigraffle, can't say I've used omniweb since NeXTStep 3.3 |
| 05:31.32 | cheers | aww |
| 05:31.36 | cheers | you should give it another try :) |
| 05:31.36 | kergoth | cheers, you know of any decent windows outliners? something on part with omnioutliner, say |
| 05:31.42 | cheers | kergoth: nope |
| 05:31.47 | kergoth | hrm |
| 05:31.52 | cheers | kergoth: time for you to switch ;) nothing rivals Omni |
| 05:32.05 | pastamancer | cheers: dunno, firebug is pretty sex |
| 05:32.17 | cheers | on a less arrogant note, I'm not aware of anything close to OO |
| 05:32.21 | kergoth | outlining fits my needs perfectly for all sorts of things, i practically think in a hierarchical fashion |
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| 05:33.18 | cheers | kergoth: we're workin' on a GTD deally too that might fit you well |
| 05:33.23 | pastamancer | cheers: what about objective-c? that's all smalltalk-y |
| 05:33.26 | cheers | kinda outliner meets plan |
| 05:33.28 | cheers | pastamancer: what about it? |
| 05:33.43 | pastamancer | it's OO |
| 05:33.58 | cheers | oooh |
| 05:34.00 | kergoth | i was thinking about getting the gtd book, might help |
| 05:34.02 | cheers | no, OO as in OmniOutliner |
| 05:34.04 | pastamancer | ooh |
| 05:34.11 | cheers | kergoth: some people like it... |
| 05:34.12 | pastamancer | that makes much more sense |
| 05:34.26 | pastamancer | yeah, there's nothing that compares to omnioutliner |
| 05:34.27 | pastamancer | well, except for emacs ;) |
| 05:34.35 | cheers | pastamancer: hehe, sorry :D |
| 05:34.36 | kergoth | methinks it may be overkill, i dont want to organize in a way that increases overhead substantially, but *shrug*, will have to try it |
| 05:34.47 | kergoth | (gtd, that is) |
| 05:35.07 | cheers | kergoth: I think it only adds as much overhead as you let it, but then, I'm a "set & forget" kind of person. |
| 05:35.09 | cheers | happily disorganized |
| 05:35.36 | kergoth | i do a lot more forgetting than setting |
| 05:35.44 | kergoth | say i'll do things, then forget to do them, a lot |
| 05:36.09 | cheers | *nod* |
| 05:36.13 | pastamancer | todo lists suck, I do set alarms in ical though |
| 05:36.23 | kergoth | without todo lists, i'm lost |
| 05:36.43 | kergoth | was thinking about setting up opengroupware on my server to keep my todos / alarms in one place |
| 05:36.59 | cheers | kergoth: ask purplecow about the don't forget the milk website, too |
| 05:37.11 | kergoth | rememberthemilk.com, works well |
| 05:37.14 | kergoth | i want a netvibes.com plugin for it though |
| 05:37.30 | cheers | right, that one ;) |
| 05:37.34 | cheers | ah |
| 05:37.36 | cheers | I dunno :shrug: |
| 05:37.57 | alcaras | kergoth: try voo2do.com |
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| 05:38.35 | pastamancer | oh god, I hate internets |
| 05:38.43 | cheers | lol |
| 05:38.49 | cheers | kergoth: juan finally installed cartographer, btw |
| 05:38.53 | cheers | he seem to be liking it |
| 05:38.54 | cheers | seems rather |
| 05:39.00 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:39.10 | pastamancer | I live out of my shell account |
| 05:39.36 | cheers | dear webcore.. .build FASTER |
| 05:41.44 | pastamancer | sweettalk work into getting you a Mac Pro? :) We just got a few in at work earlier this week, and I'm already in love. |
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| 05:43.11 | cheers | pastamancer: i'm @ home |
| 05:43.43 | cheers | 1.8 Ghz Intel Duo MBP w/1.5 gigs of ram, but WebCore is huge :shrug: |
| 05:43.51 | cheers | whatcha gonna do |
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| 05:44.11 | cheers | quad G5's are nice though ;) |
| 05:44.29 | pastamancer | quad xeon > quad g5 though :p |
| 05:44.30 | cheers | plus, it procrastniates my figuring out intel registers |
| 05:44.48 | cheers | yeah, but christmas bonus > quad xeons when I don't REALLY need em. |
| 05:44.56 | pastamancer | eww, inline asm? |
| 05:45.13 | cheers | no |
| 05:45.23 | cheers | but crash reports contain the contents of the registers at crash |
| 05:45.26 | cheers | which can contain useful stuff |
| 05:46.25 | pastamancer | EAX, EBX = temp/work, ECX = string ptr, EDX = also temp... |
| 05:46.28 | Kaelten | The XML guys are sitting up on the mountaintop like the Grinch, with his pile of stolen presents, wondering how Christmas still managed to happen: it came without specs! It came without hype! It came without angle brackets, envelopes or types! |
| 05:46.59 | cheers | hehe |
| 05:47.04 | ckknight_ | lol. |
| 05:47.29 | Kaelten | http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2006/12/21/i-cant-believe-its-not-xml |
| 05:47.31 | Kaelten | neat article |
| 05:48.33 | pastamancer | fuck Dave Winer |
| 05:48.48 | Kaelten | lol, I have no clue who he is |
| 05:49.04 | Kaelten | but his post was kinda bitchy and arrogant |
| 05:49.09 | pastamancer | he's the xml messiah |
| 05:49.18 | pastamancer | err RSS/OPML |
| 05:49.19 | kenlyric|home | he writes on the internet. |
| 05:49.19 | Kaelten | heh |
| 05:49.24 | kenlyric|home | It can have no other tone. |
| 05:49.38 | Kaelten | James Bennet managed to rip him a new one in a very polite fashion |
| 05:50.00 | pastamancer | I'm solidly on the s-expression side of the debate |
| 05:50.04 | cheers | mostly related to my hatred of all things non-functioning in OmniWeb |
| 05:50.11 | ckknight_ | do you have any idea how popular I am on the internet? |
| 05:50.19 | pastamancer | :) |
| 05:50.27 | ckknight_ | ;-) |
| 05:50.33 | ckknight_ | yay, new compy tomorrow |
| 05:50.37 | pastamancer | I think that beats "the lurkers support me via email" |
| 05:51.05 | Kaelten | ckknight: cool,what kind? |
| 05:51.12 | ckknight_ | Kaelten, MacBook Pro |
| 05:51.16 | ckknight_ | $2000 range |
| 05:51.29 | Kaelten | cool |
| 05:51.47 | Kaelten | I'm looking at getting a dell laptop |
| 05:51.47 | ckknight | I'm not even a machead, I just haven't found a better deal by the other OEMs |
| 05:52.02 | pastamancer | buy some windex, you'll spend the first week wiping fingerprints off the aluminum :p |
| 05:52.07 | cheers | haha |
| 05:52.22 | Fetch | cheers: hmm, I'm reading it, and now I'm going to have to read up on REST, because one of my job applicants claims to have used it or preached it or something |
| 05:52.24 | cheers | and, really, my lappy isn't grungy |
| 05:52.26 | pastamancer | well, the honeymoon is over with my g4 powerbook |
| 05:52.41 | Fetch | and if I can't rip a job applicant a new one, why even bother talking to them? |
| 05:52.55 | ckknight | pastamancer, oh, can I beat the shit out of my new macbook pro and still expect it to function? |
| 05:53.01 | ckknight | or do I have to treat it nicely? |
| 05:53.04 | ckknight | cause I don't do that. |
| 05:53.08 | kenlyric|home | First rule... I don't have to be smart. I just have to be smarter than you. |
| 05:53.12 | ckknight | I treat my laptops like I treat my women |
| 05:53.17 | pastamancer | hmm, it's no singapore whore |
| 05:53.19 | cheers | ckknight: i saw one dropped from the 3rd story & still functioning ;) |
| 05:53.19 | kenlyric|home | you don't have a laptop? |
| 05:53.31 | pastamancer | but it's not dainty |
| 05:53.36 | cheers | ckknight: that said, the MBP's are slightly more accident prone then the macbooks |
| 05:53.37 | ckknight | kenlyric|home, I have one, and I treated it like shit, now I need a new one |
| 05:53.49 | ckknight | hrm... I'm getting the OneCare dealy |
| 05:53.54 | cheers | the case'll bne if you bang it around too badly |
| 05:53.56 | kenlyric|home | ckknight: joke aborted. |
| 05:53.56 | cheers | applecare |
| 05:53.57 | ckknight | so hopefully that'll take care of my rambunctiousness |
| 05:54.01 | cheers | haha |
| 05:54.09 | ckknight | yea, AppleCare |
| 05:54.10 | ckknight | whatever. |
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| 05:54.52 | pastamancer | yeah, the last thing you want is to have to pay for a broken screen |
| 05:55.49 | ckknight | right |
| 05:58.00 | cheers | my lappy took a trip to Austin to get some love |
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| 05:58.53 | kenlyric|home | And like most things that visit Austin, did it come back with a virus? |
| 05:59.07 | cheers | lol no, it came back w/o the obnoxious buzz |
| 05:59.19 | cheers | also, http://json.org/ <-- aHA! someoen WILL tell me wtf json is! |
| 05:59.41 | Kaelten | first glance says lightweight alternative to xml |
| 05:59.47 | pastamancer | it's part of the web twopointoh circlejerk |
| 05:59.52 | ckknight | you didn't know what JSON is? |
| 06:00.04 | cheers | ckknight: I was woefully un-educated |
| 06:00.12 | ckknight | sad. |
| 06:00.22 | cheers | but, through persistance, and Reading The Fucking Article, I, too, found the path to enlightenment. |
| 06:00.24 | kenlyric|home | There are many things in the world not worth knowing. |
| 06:00.46 | kenlyric|home | Now that I know this, what practical information has been forever lost? |
| 06:01.40 | cheers | kenlyric|home: "lather, rinse, repeat"? |
| 06:02.21 | kenlyric|home | I lay claim to making the reference first. |
| 06:02.28 | cheers | lol |
| 06:02.45 | kenlyric|home | see, it's so simple! http://json.org/number.gif |
| 06:03.06 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:03.24 | pastamancer | why are they so afraid of parenthesis!?!?! |
| 06:03.30 | cheers | looks like a definition of a number to me |
| 06:03.42 | ckknight | lol: http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF207-Gingerbread_Man.jpg#197 |
| 06:03.48 | ckknight | pastamancer, they're frightening. |
| 06:04.05 | ckknight | kenlyric|home, that's actually quite simple. |
| 06:04.06 | pastamancer | ckknight: you take that back! |
| 06:04.28 | ckknight | pastamancer, I can't, I have to sleep under the covers because of the parentheses in my closet. |
| 06:04.46 | cheers | lol |
| 06:04.50 | pastamancer | hehe |
| 06:05.00 | mjc_ | ckknight: lisp? |
| 06:05.30 | pastamancer | (seriously (s-expressions give) (you everthing) that xml does) |
| 06:05.38 | ckknight | mjc_, hehe. |
| 06:05.43 | ckknight | pastamancer, my other car is a cdr |
| 06:05.46 | mjc_ | haha |
| 06:05.50 | pastamancer | ahaha |
| 06:05.51 | pastamancer | that's horrible |
| 06:06.12 | pastamancer | I miss mapcar the most |
| 06:06.50 | cheers | pastamancer: but we fear the parens |
| 06:07.35 | kenlyric|home | I used to have dreams where I couldn't find the open paren on a close. |
| 06:08.16 | cheers | haha |
| 06:08.38 | cheers | scheme gave me nightmares in my Programming Languages class |
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| 06:08.43 | kenlyric|home | i'd compile and there would just be an extra parenthesis at the bottom.. and I'd take it away, and some function would fail. |
| 06:09.04 | pastamancer | bah, that's because you use text editors that suck |
| 06:09.19 | kenlyric|home | mostly because mismatched parens turned out to be 95% of my programming errors. |
| 06:09.26 | ckknight | HOWTO Write Scheme: hold shift. Frantically, press 9 and 0 back and forth in a fervent rage. Finished! |
| 06:09.26 | pastamancer | I started using emacs *because of* lisp |
| 06:09.38 | kenlyric|home | agreed pastamancer. |
| 06:09.47 | cheers | ckknight: fer serious!! |
| 06:09.54 | cheers | emacs hates me. |
| 06:09.57 | cheers | I get into it |
| 06:10.03 | cheers | but I can't ever get ut |
| 06:10.04 | cheers | out |
| 06:10.12 | pastamancer | bah, if clad were around, he'd back me up |
| 06:10.18 | kenlyric|home | they just upgraded a machine at work at didn't bother with emacs. I cried a little. |
| 06:10.26 | cheers | lol |
| 06:10.38 | kenlyric|home | my choices are now vi or pico. |
| 06:10.43 | kenlyric|home | err, nano |
| 06:10.45 | cheers | to each their own, but I like vim, and i like xcode ,and i could evne grow to like whazzit, text mate |
| 06:10.48 | pastamancer | home is where your .emacs is |
| 06:10.54 | cheers | if it would stop stealing my file associations |
| 06:11.11 | kenlyric|home | I sitll hit Ctrl-S-Ctrl-X in nano, and it freaks out. |
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| 06:11.14 | cheers | nooo. home is where my .subversion is at |
| 06:11.27 | cheers | huzzah! I finally built enough to get to my error! |
| 06:11.30 | cheers | now, to break things s'more |
| 06:11.35 | kenlyric|home | apparently control X means "DIE IN A FIRE" to nano. |
| 06:11.39 | ckknight | new WoWI bbcode dealy: [paypal] -----BEGIN PKCS7----- and ----END PKCS7----- [/paypal] |
| 06:11.41 | cheers | lol |
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| 06:12.44 | Feldia | ckknight: I was messing around with cartographer earlier and had the strangest thing happen |
| 06:12.48 | Feldia | I zoned into naxx |
| 06:12.54 | Feldia | and there were map notes on my minimap |
| 06:13.27 | kenlyric|home | here's an intersting factoid. Do users feel safer with actual security, or if you name your website with the word "secure" in it? |
| 06:13.54 | ckknight | Feldia, yea, I need to make it so that it doesn't show those things in instances. |
| 06:13.59 | kenlyric|home | they don't know what a yellow lock icon means, but "secure" means./.. "security!" |
| 06:14.04 | ckknight | well, in outer-instances |
| 06:14.12 | Feldia | well like |
| 06:14.15 | Feldia | it was the notes from the full map |
| 06:14.20 | Feldia | somehow attached to the minimap |
| 06:14.23 | Feldia | obviously all out of position |
| 06:14.23 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:14.24 | kergoth | PKCS7, isnt that what CMS is based on? |
| 06:14.26 | kergoth | bleh |
| 06:14.27 | ckknight | yea, I'll fix that. |
| 06:14.31 | Feldia | and they moved with me type thing |
| 06:14.36 | Feldia | opening / closing map got rid of em |
| 06:14.38 | Feldia | it wa sjust weird |
| 06:17.38 | cheers | lol |
| 06:19.23 | ckknight | I'll just put in a check if Tourist:IsInstance(GetRealZoneText()) then -- clear minimap and such end |
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| 06:25.46 | CIA-17 | 03matini * r21750 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - update zhTW locale |
| 06:33.15 | ckknight | woo: http://www.wcradio.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4083 |
| 06:33.38 | nymbia | odange |
| 06:33.46 | nymbia | s/ge/g/ |
| 06:33.53 | Kaelten | heh |
| 06:34.21 | Kaelten | on the same note, I'll be on the holiday podcast of wowpodast.com |
| 06:36.12 | ckknight | I'll listen that that ;-) |
| 06:37.30 | CIA-17 | 03matini * r21751 10Cartographer_Hotspot/Cartographer_Hotspot.lua: |
| 06:37.30 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Hotspot: |
| 06:37.30 | CIA-17 | - Add zhTW locale |
| 06:38.36 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 06:38.43 | pastamancer | ~laziness |
| 06:38.47 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 06:39.01 | pastamancer | Kaelten: ;) |
| 06:39.13 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:39.35 | Kaelten | ok pastamancer tells me I need to be more lazy and find minions |
| 06:39.35 | kenlyric|home | can I get an amen on that? |
| 06:39.37 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:40.04 | ckknight | amen! |
| 06:40.17 | ckknight | Kaelten, you really should get minions |
| 06:40.26 | kenlyric|home | it's like I tell everyone. I'm not lazy. I'm efficient. |
| 06:40.36 | Kaelten | hallelujah~ |
| 06:40.39 | Kaelten | err ! |
| 06:40.44 | pastamancer | I keep trying to sucker people into writing documentation for Grid |
| 06:40.46 | ckknight | ~hallelujah |
| 06:40.50 | cheers | hehe |
| 06:40.50 | Kaelten | ckknight: they're expensive on ebay though |
| 06:41.01 | ckknight | Kaelten, lol. |
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| 06:41.05 | ckknight | breed em, I say |
| 06:41.12 | Dhraga | Morning |
| 06:41.13 | cheers | minions or grid documenters? |
| 06:41.19 | cheers | mornin' Dhraga |
| 06:41.23 | Kaelten | working on it but she's only 3 |
| 06:41.25 | kenlyric|home | minions should be crafted and then animated through dark forces. |
| 06:41.33 | kenlyric|home | otherwise, they're just slaves. |
| 06:41.36 | pastamancer | minions are what you have before you can field your own baseball team :p |
| 06:41.37 | Kaelten | problems with breeding minions is they take years to develop |
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| 06:43.13 | cheers | and they're expensive, too, Kaelten \ |
| 06:43.51 | ckknight | yea, those are the kind where you have to feed like at least once a day |
| 06:45.31 | cheers | HA try 3, or even more when they're just-hatched |
| 06:45.40 | cheers | little bastards don't let you sleep, either, and they puke a lot |
| 06:46.43 | pastamancer | it's billable! |
| 06:46.47 | cheers | lol |
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| 06:51.01 | CIA-17 | 03grayhoof * r21753 10sct_options/options.lua: sct_options: fixed color change saving. |
| 06:52.02 | ckknight | pastamancer, wait, so if I go to the normal Apple Store, would my student discount still apply? |
| 06:52.27 | pastamancer | ckknight: it should if you have a student ID. or at least I hope it would |
| 06:52.34 | ckknight | I do |
| 06:53.13 | nymbia | it should, just bring plenty of identification or proof of enrollment or whatnot |
| 06:54.00 | ckknight | maybe I can just call the store to double check |
| 06:54.48 | cheers | ckknight: should |
| 06:54.57 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@210.116.4.181) |
| 07:03.00 | ckknight | yep |
| 07:03.02 | ckknight | they will |
| 07:03.06 | cheers | :) |
| 07:03.08 | ckknight | and they have all models in stock |
| 07:03.16 | ckknight | so that works for me |
| 07:04.00 | cheers | w00t |
| 07:04.07 | cheers | so that she can get a new desktop |
| 07:04.34 | ckknight | mwsf? |
| 07:04.37 | pastamancer | I'm not drawing the connection |
| 07:04.51 | pastamancer | MacWorld SanFran I assume |
| 07:04.59 | cheers | mwsf is MacWorld San Francisco, which is a trade show that apple often announces new hardware at. |
| 07:05.27 | cheers | i'm gonna be royally pissed if I pick up a new tower 7 they bump hte processors in them 2 weeks later, ya know? |
| 07:05.34 | cheers | s/7/&/ |
| 07:05.49 | pastamancer | oh yeah, I've been holding off on getting a MBP from work until the next revision |
| 07:05.52 | ckknight | cheers, when is that being held? |
| 07:05.58 | cheers | ckknight: 2nd week of january |
| 07:06.01 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 07:06.19 | ckknight | I wonder, could I return my macbook pro, then buy a new one in a month? |
| 07:06.20 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 07:06.26 | ckknight | or is that not kosher? |
| 07:06.34 | cheers | um... i'm not sure what their policy is on that, honestly |
| 07:06.43 | ckknight | I think my old teacher did that |
| 07:06.59 | pastamancer | wtf, when did leopard get ZFS?! |
| 07:07.04 | cheers | lol pastamancer |
| 07:07.06 | cheers | what, last week? |
| 07:07.10 | ckknight | pastamancer, yea, last week or so |
| 07:07.19 | pastamancer | dayumn |
| 07:07.26 | pastamancer | so apple and sun are friends now? |
| 07:07.40 | Kemayo | ~seen vhaarr |
| 07:07.50 | purl | vhaarr is currently on #wowace, last said: 'self:Print(self.spells["Mage"]["Fireball"][12].school)'. |
| 07:08.02 | cheers | lol |
| 07:08.15 | cheers | juan's trying to run the flag as a rogue in WSG... hilarity ensued |
| 07:08.25 | cheers | pastamancer: dunno that they've ever been enimys |
| 07:08.30 | cheers | enemys |
| 07:08.31 | cheers | whatever |
| 07:08.39 | pastamancer | I didn't know that they were ever friends though |
| 07:09.00 | pastamancer | that is assuming that the ZFS in leopard is sun's ZFS |
| 07:09.13 | cheers | honestly don't know much about it, so couldn't say |
| 07:09.23 | cheers | of course, i I DID know, I probably couldn't say anyway |
| 07:09.47 | pastamancer | ;) |
| 07:09.59 | cheers | damn those NDA'S ;) |
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| 07:10.35 | pastamancer | hmm, I might hold out until leopard launches. My Al really only starts to drag when I have lotus notes open |
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| 07:11.20 | cheers | leopard had some cool stuff in the WWDC builds... but it had a lot of work to go yet |
| 07:11.55 | pastamancer | well, macrumors puts it at "Spring 2007" |
| 07:12.11 | cheers | yeah,that's what apple said |
| 07:12.16 | cheers | but it'll lbe late spring |
| 07:12.17 | pastamancer | and I really can't live without my virtual desktops (using desktop manager and it's not a universal binary) |
| 07:12.20 | cheers | like march or april |
| 07:12.36 | cheers | isn't it? i know Rowan still uses it |
| 07:12.41 | cheers | but i think he's still on a G5 |
| 07:13.04 | pastamancer | the developer stopped updating quite some time ago :( |
| 07:13.20 | cheers | ah |
| 07:13.23 | cheers | :/ |
| 07:13.39 | cheers | and magnetic power cords save the day again! |
| 07:13.43 | CIA-17 | 03jayhawk * r21754 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt/FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt.toc: |
| 07:13.43 | CIA-17 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt: |
| 07:13.43 | CIA-17 | - fixed ## SavedVariables: SkillsPlusFuLtDB |
| 07:13.46 | pastamancer | I really don't know how I'd survive without it |
| 07:13.47 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r21755 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ (ExperienceFuLocals-koKR.lua FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc): |
| 07:13.47 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ExperienceFu: |
| 07:13.48 | CIA-17 | - Add locals koKR. |
| 07:15.09 | Daemona | hmmm |
| 07:15.15 | Daemona | 8:15 am |
| 07:15.23 | Daemona | time for a shower |
| 07:15.42 | Daemona | and some last minute christmas shopping |
| 07:15.49 | pastamancer | I have notes/mail/ical/safari/ARD on one desktop, a bazillion xterms on another, emacs, timbuktu, and even more xterms on another, and non-work stuff on the fourth |
| 07:16.00 | cheers | lol |
| 07:16.35 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r21756 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: |
| 07:16.35 | CIA-17 | FuBar: |
| 07:16.35 | CIA-17 | - toc fix (koKR double line.) |
| 07:16.44 | Daemona | i prefer dual screen to virtual desktops |
| 07:16.55 | cheers | *nod* |
| 07:17.01 | pastamancer | and I just recently acquired a second monitor so I can poke at my test open directory servers and keep xterms to my linux servers visible at the same time |
| 07:17.14 | pastamancer | aha, that's how you cope! |
| 07:17.17 | cheers | (it's still not big 'nuff) |
| 07:17.25 | cheers | pastamancer: yeah,but I'm doin' okay here on the MBP too |
| 07:17.29 | pastamancer | 15" PbAl and a 17" external LCD |
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| 07:17.38 | Daemona | what res are u running`? |
| 07:17.47 | cheers | on which? |
| 07:17.47 | ckknight | in less than 12 hours, I'll have a new comp |
| 07:17.49 | ckknight | I'm excited. |
| 07:17.53 | cheers | :) |
| 07:18.06 | cheers | 1440x900 on the lappy, Daemona |
| 07:18.09 | pastamancer | I originally got the second monitor so I could watch the mail logs from 4 servers at once |
| 07:18.41 | Daemona | doesnt support 1920 native'? |
| 07:18.49 | ckknight | hrm, wonder what resolution the MacBook Pros are. |
| 07:19.11 | ckknight | ooh, 1440 by 900 |
| 07:19.12 | ckknight | shiny |
| 07:19.52 | cheers | Daemona: dunno? |
| 07:20.18 | cheers | don't look like it |
| 07:20.24 | ckknight | I'm intrigued, because it's 2^5*3^2*5 by 2^2*3^3*5^2 |
| 07:20.28 | ckknight | and I like numbers |
| 07:20.56 | ckknight | err, 2^5*3^2*5 by 2^2*3^2*5^2 |
| 07:21.12 | cheers | lol |
| 07:22.30 | haarm | wont get far in this life without liking powers of 2 ;) |
| 07:22.45 | CIA-17 | 03matini * r21757 10HealOrganizer/ (HealOrganizer-zhTW.lua HealOrganizer.toc): |
| 07:22.45 | CIA-17 | HealOrganizer: |
| 07:22.45 | CIA-17 | - Add zhTW locale |
| 07:22.46 | pastamancer | hmm, my PbAl is 1440x960 |
| 07:23.04 | cheers | pastamancer: evidently it's taller than my MBP by 60 whole pixels o.O |
| 07:23.34 | haarm | the things manufacurers do to save money these days eh :p |
| 07:23.36 | pastamancer | system preferences really says 1440x900? |
| 07:23.40 | cheers | fer real |
| 07:23.46 | haarm | i'm sure i'm missing a t there somewhere |
| 07:23.46 | pastamancer | zoikes |
| 07:23.47 | cheers | I can take a screenshot if you like |
| 07:23.53 | haarm | but i just woke up, so meh |
| 07:23.56 | cheers | manufacturers I think, haarm |
| 07:24.14 | cheers | lol |
| 07:24.17 | cheers | under my desk? |
| 07:24.19 | pastamancer | cheers: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21594 :( |
| 07:24.20 | haarm | shh, don't tell anyone i'm here |
| 07:24.21 | cheers | damn santa loves me |
| 07:24.25 | haarm | anyones desk |
| 07:24.31 | haarm | just somewhere to hide |
| 07:24.37 | cheers | pastamancer: aww |
| 07:24.56 | cheers | spaces will be here soon |
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| 07:25.30 | pastamancer | I was hoping to put off recompiling all of my fink packages anyways |
| 07:25.39 | cheers | haha |
| 07:25.41 | cheers | i gave up on fink |
| 07:25.58 | pastamancer | fink is sweet, it gives me sbcl and real emacs |
| 07:26.10 | CIA-17 | 03jayhawk * r21758 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt/ (3 files): |
| 07:26.10 | CIA-17 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt: |
| 07:26.11 | CIA-17 | - updated datamodel |
| 07:26.11 | CIA-17 | - fixed Purge issues |
| 07:26.22 | cheers | lol "purge issues" |
| 07:26.39 | cheers | and no, i have no idea why I find this funny |
| 07:26.51 | pastamancer | I think that's why |
| 07:26.58 | cheers | that'll work :) |
| 07:28.11 | ckknight | lol, pastamancer |
| 07:28.41 | haarm | just the thing to talk about while i eat breakfast ;x |
| 07:28.43 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07nymbia * r21759 10PeriodicTable_DataMiner/PeriodicTable_DataMiner/WoWHeadMiner.lua: PeriodicTable_DataMiner: Added searching and parsing for a number of set types. |
| 07:28.52 | haarm | ck, did those guys contact you about that thing? |
| 07:29.01 | cheers | haarm: that's what you get for eating breakfast at 11:30 pm |
| 07:29.13 | cheers | also, I have pad thai, just waiting for me to microwave. good idea :) |
| 07:29.30 | haarm | *ahem* |
| 07:29.43 | ckknight | haarm, which guys? the Atlas guys? |
| 07:29.46 | ckknight | they didn't |
| 07:29.52 | cheers | damn brits and their 8 AM at midnight crap :P |
| 07:29.56 | haarm | It's 7:30 in the morning, a perfectly reasonable time for breakfast |
| 07:30.01 | ckknight | it's 9:30 PM |
| 07:30.05 | ckknight | you should be getting to bed. |
| 07:30.12 | haarm | 9:30 is so yesterday |
| 07:30.13 | nymbia | lol |
| 07:30.44 | ckknight | your mom was so yesterday |
| 07:30.47 | ckknight | burn. |
| 07:31.09 | cheers | lol |
| 07:31.37 | ckknight | wait |
| 07:31.40 | haarm | of course she was... |
| 07:31.43 | ckknight | your mom was so yesterday, last night! |
| 07:31.44 | haarm | that's what happens when you get old |
| 07:32.00 | haarm | "was so yesterday", you mean she's not anymore? :D |
| 07:32.03 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:32.05 | ckknight | I went there. |
| 07:32.10 | haarm | i'll give her the good news |
| 07:32.11 | nymbia | humping.. noise..? |
| 07:32.13 | haarm | she's back in fashion |
| 07:32.19 | haarm | (she's single btw ck) |
| 07:32.25 | ckknight | haarm, lol. |
| 07:32.37 | ckknight | haarm, though I like older women, I tend to stick within 5 years of myself |
| 07:32.40 | haarm | hey, she's good looking for a 45 year old |
| 07:32.49 | ckknight | some are, no doubt |
| 07:32.59 | ckknight | but then it just seems like I'm the boy toy |
| 07:33.00 | ckknight | and I |
| 07:33.03 | ckknight | I'm not into that |
| 07:33.42 | haarm | it's too late, you already expressed an interest |
| 07:34.22 | cheers | not to mention the humping |
| 07:34.30 | haarm | CK! |
| 07:34.33 | haarm | you can be my father |
| 07:35.03 | ckknight | lol. |
| 07:35.09 | haarm | no go buy me some christmas presents you shit, you're getting socks ;) |
| 07:35.24 | haarm | now |
| 07:35.30 | ckknight | I got into your mom's socks last night, if you know what I mean |
| 07:35.31 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r21760 10simpleMinimap/modules/ (movers.lua skins.lua): |
| 07:35.32 | CIA-17 | simpleMinimap: |
| 07:35.32 | CIA-17 | - Updated locales koKR |
| 07:35.32 | ckknight | bam! |
| 07:35.54 | Kaelten | Your mom wasn't wearing socks last night, if you know what I mean |
| 07:35.56 | cheers | what locale is koKR? |
| 07:36.04 | cheers | Kaelten: um, no, what does that mean? |
| 07:36.18 | Kaelten | cheers: <shrugs> was having a who's line moment |
| 07:36.21 | haarm | she was wearing sandals |
| 07:36.24 | nevcairiel | cheers: korean |
| 07:36.28 | ckknight | cheers, koKRean |
| 07:36.31 | cheers | nevcairiel: ah, I should've guessed :) |
| 07:36.48 | cheers | OW doesn'st have a korean localization, so I hadn't seen the country code |
| 07:37.14 | ckknight | there's seven codes now: |
| 07:37.32 | nevcairiel | 4 of them weird asian |
| 07:37.34 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 07:37.35 | ckknight | enUS (the only real important one), deDE, frFR, esES, zhCN, zhTW, koKR |
| 07:37.40 | pastamancer | zhTW = taiwan, zhCN = chinese |
| 07:37.40 | cheers | lol |
| 07:37.41 | ckknight | 3 are weird assian. |
| 07:37.44 | nevcairiel | oh noes, i forgot esES |
| 07:37.44 | ckknight | asian* |
| 07:37.54 | haarm | noNB ? |
| 07:37.54 | ckknight | esESpanol |
| 07:37.55 | cheers | ah, different ones than I'm faimilar w/ then |
| 07:37.57 | haarm | or something |
| 07:38.05 | pastamancer | I'm still waiting for an esES translation for Grid |
| 07:38.07 | ckknight | haarm, norweigan, vhaarr invented it if I'm not mistaken. |
| 07:38.23 | nevcairiel | haarm: its not a real locale for wow, just a virtual one in One* stuff :D |
| 07:38.25 | cheers | pastamancer: do you have someone doing it? |
| 07:38.27 | nevcairiel | oh, that remins me |
| 07:38.35 | haarm | yes, so I want enGB, where we have colours etc :D |
| 07:38.36 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: got another bug in OV for you |
| 07:38.41 | cheers | haha |
| 07:38.57 | pastamancer | cheers: no, nobody uses the esES client :p |
| 07:39.03 | haarm | they do |
| 07:39.03 | cheers | pastamancer: aw |
| 07:39.10 | haarm | i have spanish links in my guildchat sometimes |
| 07:39.16 | pastamancer | the esES translations are worse than the deDE ones |
| 07:39.17 | cheers | pastamancer: I got a D in my Spanish 2 class, don't look at me :) |
| 07:39.29 | pastamancer | or so I hear |
| 07:39.48 | ckknight | haarm, you misspelled color |
| 07:39.58 | ckknight | you slipped in that extra u for some reason |
| 07:40.08 | cheers | LOL |
| 07:40.08 | ckknight | must've just mistyped. |
| 07:40.20 | cheers | ckknight: you used old OW's ya? doyou remember zaps? |
| 07:40.27 | ckknight | what's OW's? |
| 07:40.31 | nevcairiel | I am german, and i couldnt think of some good translations for the english terms most of the times ... well guess thats why i play with the enGB client :) |
| 07:40.31 | cheers | OmniWeb's |
| 07:40.32 | haarm | right, you must be speaking american, i was speaking english |
| 07:41.00 | ckknight | cheers, don't know what that is |
| 07:41.11 | cheers | ah, mustve been pastamancer, sorry :D |
| 07:41.31 | pastamancer | I used the nextstep versions :( |
| 07:41.35 | cheers | we had these little icons next to links in the origional omniwebs, and we actualy had an eastern canadian user complain |
| 07:41.45 | cheers | because the zaps looked like british Colombia |
| 07:41.59 | cheers | and we were discriminating against the rest of the canadian population |
| 07:42.12 | pastamancer | bah, canadians are uppity |
| 07:42.20 | cheers | hehe, got that right |
| 07:42.25 | haarm | what do you expect, they're part of the commonwealth |
| 07:42.40 | cheers | the british are uppity, too |
| 07:42.58 | cheers | griping 'cuz we send em money back 'cuz it's not in the right currency |
| 07:43.43 | pastamancer | ok, it's sleep time. I might actually go to work tomorrow. |
| 07:43.49 | cheers | night pastamancer :) |
| 07:43.52 | nevcairiel | nite |
| 07:43.54 | nymbia | night pasta |
| 07:44.05 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:Grid_User%27s_Documentation ! |
| 07:44.14 | ckknight | so where would I get good (free) software for the mac? like torrent, music player, etc. |
| 07:44.29 | alcaras | azureus, itunes? |
| 07:44.39 | haarm | hmm, interesting, britian spends 5x more on military than canada |
| 07:44.44 | cheers | ckknight: macupdate.com |
| 07:44.58 | nymbia | ckknight: i always used versiontracker.com, not sure if they're still any good since i havent used it in year or so, though. |
| 07:45.16 | cheers | also, google. |
| 07:45.29 | cheers | juan uses azerous for bit-torrent |
| 07:45.33 | cheers | for what that's worth |
| 07:45.47 | ckknight | juan? |
| 07:45.56 | cheers | juanvald1s: <-- my bf |
| 07:46.11 | cheers | also, about 2 feet away from me yelling "fucking hammer of justice!" |
| 07:46.16 | nymbia | lol |
| 07:46.22 | ckknight | I see |
| 07:46.31 | ckknight | you female or gay? |
| 07:46.47 | cheers | girl |
| 07:46.50 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 07:47.22 | ckknight | it's confusing, cause some people talk about their boyfriends and I thought they were female for a while, and then talk about having chest hair or something and it's just an odd situation |
| 07:47.27 | cheers | lol |
| 07:47.29 | alcaras | lol |
| 07:47.43 | cheers | haha, glad to clear the sitaution up for ya then ;) |
| 07:47.47 | ckknight | alright then |
| 07:47.49 | cheers | ack. pretend I can spell ..< |
| 07:48.04 | ckknight | my imagination doesn't stretch that far |
| 07:48.12 | nymbia | burn. |
| 07:48.13 | cheers | damn |
| 07:48.26 | ckknight | burnination! |
| 07:48.40 | nymbia | ~emulate trogdor |
| 07:49.00 | nymbia | c'mon purl, dont fail me now |
| 07:49.17 | Daemona | cheers tell him to CoS ;) |
| 07:49.42 | cheers | Daemona: he's mutilate |
| 07:50.05 | cheers | haha |
| 07:50.07 | cheers | his main's a mage |
| 07:51.06 | Daemona | on beta i kinda trained anyone who "tries" to hammer me, to better not cause "i know that they know that i know that..." get the point? i just CoS and got 5 moreseconds to beat the crap outa the paladin ;) |
| 07:51.31 | cheers | lol |
| 07:51.35 | ckknight | well, I'm like, shit, and all like, damn... |
| 07:52.18 | phreaky | When i change my font size for chatwindows, it does not save between sessions. Any1 know why? =/ |
| 07:52.29 | Daemona | phreaky using prat? |
| 07:52.42 | cheers | phreaky: in prat? juan was complaining about that too |
| 07:52.42 | phreaky | yup |
| 07:52.52 | phreaky | I'm using prat |
| 07:52.55 | Daemona | dont set it via the chat tab settings |
| 07:52.59 | Daemona | set it via prat? ^^ |
| 07:53.05 | phreaky | Okey.. |
| 07:53.08 | nevcairiel | yea set it with prat |
| 07:53.08 | nymbia | gotta set it in prat, since that overrides the windows. |
| 07:53.25 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 07:53.34 | ckknight | I wonder what'd be like to wear a lab coat everywhere |
| 07:53.40 | renchap | hop can i show/hide the part and join messages in prat ? cant find the option |
| 07:53.43 | renchap | *how |
| 07:53.45 | phreaky | thanks alot =P |
| 07:53.50 | haarm | ckknight, i have the same dream |
| 07:54.09 | haarm | except, getting off an aeroplane wearing a lab coat and making them all freak |
| 07:54.27 | haarm | and some lab goggles |
| 07:54.50 | ckknight | and then you gotta refer to yourself as a "Scientician" |
| 07:55.03 | haarm | and a bandolier with test tubes with various coloured liquids in it |
| 07:55.11 | haarm | hmm |
| 07:55.17 | haarm | starting to get an idea for a computer game |
| 07:55.41 | mjc_ | ckknight: I respecced balance heh, for pvp til expansion |
| 07:55.48 | ckknight | mjc_, good for you. |
| 07:55.55 | mjc_ | er sorry, I meant kergoth |
| 07:55.56 | mjc_ | :P |
| 07:56.01 | mjc_ | extra character |
| 07:56.54 | CIA-17 | 03matini * r21761 10kkbk/localization.lua: |
| 07:56.54 | CIA-17 | kkbk: |
| 07:56.54 | CIA-17 | - Add zhTW locale |
| 07:57.35 | Kaelten | maybe someone here can help me with this |
| 07:57.46 | Kaelten | I have a iso file on a fedora install that I want to mount |
| 07:58.23 | Kaelten | is it mount -t auto path/to/iso /tmpmount |
| 07:58.24 | Kaelten | ? |
| 07:58.37 | mjc_ | -o loop |
| 07:58.40 | mjc_ | at the end |
| 07:59.37 | lassizci | you don't even need to specify type |
| 08:00.08 | Kaelten | neat |
| 08:00.30 | Kaelten | will it stay mounted or do I have to manually mount it? |
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| 08:02.44 | lassizci | What do you mena? |
| 08:02.46 | mjc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.48 | mjc_ | to mount on reboot |
| 08:02.51 | lassizci | mean* |
| 08:02.58 | haarm | does linux have /etc/mtab too |
| 08:03.00 | haarm | ? |
| 08:03.13 | lassizci | yes |
| 08:03.50 | Kaelten | ah |
| 08:03.52 | Kaelten | k |
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| 08:05.37 | Kaelten | what I'm looking for really is a way to update the distro from the command line |
| 08:05.45 | Kaelten | doesn't seem to be an easy way |
| 08:05.53 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia 07nymbia * r21762 10PeriodicTable_DataMiner/PeriodicTable_DataMiner/WoWHeadMiner.lua: PeriodicTable_DataMiner: bugfix in bag set |
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| 08:06.08 | nevcairiel | thats never easy |
| 08:06.13 | andremar_ | Kaelten: what distro? |
| 08:06.17 | Gamefaq | hi |
| 08:06.32 | Kaelten | fedora |
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| 08:06.40 | haarm | i thought ferdora had an update thingy |
| 08:06.42 | andremar_ | install apt-get |
| 08:07.01 | Kaelten | haarm: it has yum I know |
| 08:07.03 | nevcairiel | isnt fedora rpm based? :D |
| 08:07.24 | sylvanaar | \ |
| 08:07.27 | sylvanaar | who |
| 08:07.33 | Kaelten | nev hrm, think so. |
| 08:07.38 | haarm | wasn't it called up2date? |
| 08:07.55 | andremar_ | but you still get apt-get for it :p |
| 08:08.10 | Kaelten | andremar_: I did yum install apt-get and it said it couldn't find it |
| 08:08.22 | andremar_ | hms |
| 08:08.36 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, I highly endorse debian or ubuntu |
| 08:08.37 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 08:08.37 | haarm | http://www.fedorafaq.org/#up2date |
| 08:08.44 | haarm | says use yum |
| 08:09.03 | Kaelten | ok how do I get yum to update my version of fedora though |
| 08:09.06 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r21763 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus-frFR.lua: GrindStatus: typo in frFR |
| 08:09.11 | Dhraga | is there anyone that could take pitey on this old fubar plugin and update it to 2.0...pretty please ? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5170-FuBar-GEMFu.html |
| 08:09.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahhh. |
| 08:09.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Long night, but good night. |
| 08:09.32 | Stryph | Hello, just a quick question. I recently switched from bongos to bartender but I am unable to bind mousebuttons to the hotkeys, such as button 4 and 5. I am wondering if this is a bug or if there was anyway around this? |
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| 08:10.27 | nevcairiel | thats a weirdness with ckk's dewdrop code |
| 08:10.34 | Dhraga | Stryph, why dont you use Clique for binding functions to your mouse ? |
| 08:10.35 | haarm | Stryph, i'm pretty sure it's a "not yet implemented" feature |
| 08:10.49 | ckknight | nevcairiel, hrm, that should work... |
| 08:11.09 | nevcairiel | well it doesnt :) |
| 08:11.25 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r21764 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0: Big data update with the dataminer, let's hope nothing breaks. |
| 08:11.34 | nevcairiel | bah my stupid webserver is too slow |
| 08:11.50 | nevcairiel | i am running a full backup and its still sitting there :( |
| 08:12.00 | Stryph | Well I use my mouse button for quite a few things, I usually have 3 buttons then shift and those 3 again. And most of them are macros |
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| 08:13.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Had our 4th Loatheb kill, finally killed Gothik, and 1 shot him in doing so, played with the 4 Horsemen a bit, and then had some guild group AV matches. |
| 08:13.27 | anenigma | Stryph: i can bind mouse4 and mouse5 to buttons w/ bartender3. haven't tried with shift/alt/ctrl though |
| 08:13.47 | Stryph | Hmm.. then it might be my mouse? Don't have a problem with Bongos though |
| 08:14.22 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r21765 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-frFR.lua: Bartender3: errors in frFR translation |
| 08:14.57 | alcaras | i have bound shift-M5 and shift-M4 using bt3 without issues |
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| 08:15.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
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| 08:16.21 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 08:16.38 | renchap | ^^ |
| 08:16.42 | Stryph | Hmm.. doesn't seem to work. Going to try to change the saved variables manually then |
| 08:17.10 | nevcairiel | you always can type /bt3 <bar> keybindings <button> SHIFT-BUTTON5 |
| 08:17.12 | nevcairiel | if you want to |
| 08:17.20 | nevcairiel | i should finish my binding ui |
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| 08:17.52 | Stryph | Ok thanks, will try that |
| 08:18.39 | alcaras | silly question: what's not equal in lua |
| 08:18.43 | alcaras | it's not != is it? |
| 08:18.47 | Kaelten | ~= |
| 08:19.00 | alcaras | ah, thanks |
| 08:19.24 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: Any chance of getting an option in bt3 to show/hide bars on mouseover |
| 08:19.52 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: my choices are freebsd centOS and fedora |
| 08:19.55 | nevcairiel | maybe sometime |
| 08:19.55 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:20.15 | nevcairiel | i cant ls -ls in one directory on my linux .. it complains one file in there is too big :o |
| 08:20.16 | SP|Sorren` | http://ace.pastey.net/3887 |
| 08:20.23 | SP|Sorren` | can anyone tell me why that's happening :( |
| 08:20.45 | alcaras | hrm, x~=0 apparently lets x through if x is nil |
| 08:20.53 | alcaras | maybe i need if not x |
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| 08:21.07 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 08:21.14 | SP|Sorren | allo |
| 08:21.26 | Kaelten | alcaras: try if x and x ~= 0 then |
| 08:21.41 | alcaras | if x will let x ==0 through? |
| 08:21.54 | Kaelten | both have to be true |
| 08:21.54 | evl | Anyone figured out what the AV weekend multiplier is? |
| 08:22.00 | alcaras | right but if x alone? |
| 08:22.02 | Dhraga | Hmm how to send msg's to offline users ? |
| 08:22.06 | alcaras | will let x == 0 through? :( |
| 08:22.09 | Kaelten | yes |
| 08:22.13 | cncfanatics | ofc alcaras :p |
| 08:22.14 | alcaras | it doesn't in C++ :( |
| 08:22.16 | cncfanatics | just use and :p |
| 08:22.35 | Kaelten | alcaras: 0 ~= false or nil in lua |
| 08:23.05 | alcaras | k thanks :) |
| 08:23.18 | alcaras | that solves that! |
| 08:23.22 | Kaelten | alcaras: if toboolean(x) then might work |
| 08:23.32 | KarlThePagan | oh shi wtf... 144mb patch from blizzard |
| 08:23.38 | KarlThePagan | background downloader |
| 08:23.43 | Kaelten | not sure how it would evaluate exactly |
| 08:23.48 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: fucking a |
| 08:23.51 | Kaelten | turn it off! |
| 08:24.06 | KarlThePagan | lol no i'll download it :) |
| 08:24.14 | KarlThePagan | so i can send it to guildies |
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| 08:25.52 | cheers | KarlThePagan: theyr'e gonna patch us up to2.0.3 |
| 08:25.56 | cheers | it's up on the PTR's |
| 08:25.58 | Stryph | Can they be downloading the patch for the expansion release this early or is there going to be another patch before then.. |
| 08:26.29 | cheers | see above |
| 08:26.32 | Stryph | Yeah I saw they put 2.0.3 on the ptr but they said the next patch was going to be on release |
| 08:26.38 | Kaelten | might be delivering us some of the content at a time to stop us from choking on it when the expansion hits |
| 08:26.54 | Stryph | Yeah, luckily I have a fileplanet subscription |
| 08:26.58 | Kaelten | me too |
| 08:27.02 | Kaelten | have it for wow patches |
| 08:27.02 | cheers | Stryph: hrm. I'm thinking we'll get a patch beforethen, but you could be right |
| 08:27.05 | Kaelten | don't care about anything else |
| 08:27.10 | cheers | :D |
| 08:27.12 | [Ammo] | ~seen devla |
| 08:27.35 | purl | devla <n=Devla@69.49.158.29> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 252d 8h 13m 19s ago, saying: 'hai!'. |
| 08:27.35 | nevcairiel | i never had any download problems with the patches, always had them in time without any subscription :o |
| 08:28.05 | [Ammo] | hmm |
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| 08:28.21 | [Ammo] | he disabled the one feature I completely loved in Chronometer |
| 08:28.28 | [Ammo] | the 5 minute paladin blessings! |
| 08:28.34 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 08:33.39 | Stryph | does anyone know of an alternitive to druidbar that only shows my mana in forms? Don't really need it for anything else |
| 08:37.02 | evl | BTW! |
| 08:37.16 | evl | What was the result of the GMail debacle yesterday |
| 08:37.18 | abyssichate | What is the lightest addon I could use to display cursor coordinates upon the normal map? |
| 08:37.32 | evl | Was there Sue'age in search of Truthiness? |
| 08:38.13 | evl | x,y=GetPlayerMapPosition('player') |
| 08:38.14 | evl | frame.somestring:SetText(string.format('%s,%s', floor(x*100) or '', floor(y*100) or '')) |
| 08:38.20 | evl | and stuff that frame on the map |
| 08:38.45 | evl | Or you can use Cartographer, I think it also juices |
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| 08:40.58 | alcaras | hrm, how can i parse a socket bonus, but only if it's active? |
| 08:41.04 | alcaras | i.e. how can reveal the actual color codes? |
| 08:41.08 | alcaras | so i know what to parse for |
| 08:41.55 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: you cannot link items out of the OneView frame on BC Beta, havent tried on live tho. Works fine with OneBag or OneBank |
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| 08:43.53 | ZealotOnAStick | evl - late response, but double bonus honor |
| 08:44.05 | evl | thanks |
| 08:44.27 | Stryph | Are there any good ace2 quest tracking mods? |
| 08:44.39 | kebinusan | QuestFu |
| 08:45.08 | ZealotOnAStick | we used the group join script with about 30 people from my guild and a couple of other good ones on my server, and we did like 6 games or so, all of them were 20 minutes or less, for about 500 per game. |
| 08:45.48 | Stryph | Yeah I tried that but I like the mods that are configured through the quest log, such as uberquest. I was kinda looking for something similar to the default quest tracker but allows more than 5 quests |
| 08:47.45 | Daemona | Stryph last time i checked all were limited to 5 quests, the one that i liked best that was close to blizzard quest log -> extended quest log or somesuch |
| 08:48.00 | alcaras | EQL3 |
| 08:48.03 | alcaras | not sure if it's been updated though |
| 08:49.13 | alcaras | hrm |
| 08:49.17 | alcaras | do sockets even appear in the tooltip? |
| 08:49.36 | alcaras | if so, how do you rip them out :-/ |
| 08:49.40 | alcaras | trying to see the 'real' tooltip text |
| 08:50.21 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: and this error happend again, or still, http://ace.pastey.net/3888 |
| 08:51.01 | `-FISKER_Q\ | YES |
| 08:51.10 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i was just offered 10 free gold from peons4hire!1 |
| 08:53.31 | Daemona | with that jingles and laughter 4 line spam? |
| 08:54.06 | mjc_ | those fuickers |
| 08:54.26 | cheers | `-FISKER_Q\: lucky you |
| 08:54.41 | mjc_ | I guess they didn't get it the first time |
| 08:54.51 | mjc_ | I yelled at them in person |
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| 08:59.29 | Kemayo | Stryph: QuestsFu |
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| 09:02.58 | vhaarr | morning |
| 09:03.00 | vhaarr | Kemayo, haarm: hey |
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| 09:04.40 | haarm | hey hey |
| 09:04.53 | haarm | wassup fluffy bunny? |
| 09:05.57 | haarm | vhaarr, dont ding me then give me the silent treatment! |
| 09:06.15 | haarm | or i'll turn you into a pie |
| 09:06.21 | vhaarr | haarm: You dinged me. |
| 09:06.27 | haarm | when? |
| 09:06.41 | vhaarr | 2 hours ago |
| 09:06.43 | vhaarr | <ckknight>{#wowace} haarm, norweigan, vhaarr invented it if I'm not mistaken. |
| 09:06.59 | haarm | that was ck? |
| 09:07.04 | haarm | :D |
| 09:07.08 | vhaarr | sure but it was really you |
| 09:07.11 | nymbia | lol |
| 09:07.12 | ckknight | hehe. |
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| 09:07.41 | alcaras | when parsing a tooltip, how can i reveal escape codes embedded in the tooltip? |
| 09:07.43 | haarm | ck, I called my mum knightrider and she had no idea what I was talking about |
| 09:07.58 | haarm | so I call your bluff! |
| 09:08.04 | ckknight | lol. |
| 09:10.09 | haarm | did you know, 1 in 10 people suffer from some form of mental health problem |
| 09:10.13 | haarm | I had no idea it was so low |
| 09:11.22 | CIA-17 | 03next96 * r21766 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (6 files): |
| 09:11.22 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 09:11.22 | CIA-17 | - Separate localization files |
| 09:11.23 | CIA-17 | - toc update (Separate localization update) |
| 09:11.23 | CIA-17 | - Add locals koKR (by techys) |
| 09:12.17 | vhaarr | local*E*s |
| 09:12.23 | markv | hooray for mental illnesses? |
| 09:12.32 | vhaarr | When will they ever learn, sigh. |
| 09:12.39 | mjc_ | ? |
| 09:12.48 | alcaras | when parsing a tooltip, how can i reveal escape codes embedded in the tooltip? e.g. i'm trying to parse a tooltip for socket bonuses, but don't want to know about the socket bonus if it isn't active... |
| 09:13.04 | Kemayo | Oh, right. Vhaarr, I wanted to ask you whether it would be possible to get a set editing option for ClosetGnome, along the lines of alt-clicking on a set name to equip it and prepopulate its name in the dialog. |
| 09:13.14 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: what do you think would be a good tag for Heroic marked dungeon quests ? [70h] looks so weird imho :D |
| 09:13.24 | vhaarr | Kemayo: yeah, I've been thinking about that. |
| 09:13.29 | alcaras | vhaarr: i also wish we could rename sets and assign icons after the fact |
| 09:13.31 | markv | [70GLWT] |
| 09:13.33 | vhaarr | Kemayo: I'll probably add it. |
| 09:13.35 | markv | good luck with that! |
| 09:13.41 | Kemayo | [70OHSHIT]? |
| 09:13.47 | nymbia | alcaras: /dump it |
| 09:13.50 | haarm | 70h immediately looks like 112 ;x |
| 09:14.03 | nevcairiel | [70d+] ? :D |
| 09:14.03 | vhaarr | alcaras: well that would be in the edit portion. |
| 09:14.19 | markv | [70notforcasuals] |
| 09:14.27 | alcaras | nymbia /dump? |
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| 09:14.32 | Kemayo | [70d+] is pretty consistent and meaningful. I like it. |
| 09:14.34 | alcaras | i am not familiar with /dump, can you elaborate? |
| 09:14.40 | markv | of course after the first pull you'll be going QQ |
| 09:14.46 | nymbia | alcaras: yup. as long as you've got aceconsole loaded |
| 09:15.12 | alcaras | what does /dump do? |
| 09:15.22 | nymbia | literal print of whatever you give it |
| 09:15.24 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Coolness, thanks. |
| 09:15.28 | haarm | you use + for elites? use ++ for heroic? :D |
| 09:15.29 | alcaras | nymbia: how can i give it a tooltip? |
| 09:15.39 | alcaras | [70qq] imo |
| 09:15.47 | nevcairiel | haarm: + is only non-dungeon elits |
| 09:16.10 | nevcairiel | and, they renamed Elite to Group in TBC |
| 09:16.11 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 09:16.16 | haarm | ok what about 70! |
| 09:16.30 | markv | i like QQ |
| 09:16.35 | haarm | or 70d! ... an exclaimation about the number of dimensions |
| 09:16.36 | nymbia | alcaras: iterate the lines of the tooltip |
| 09:16.38 | markv | because that is what you're gonnab e diong a lot of while you learn it |
| 09:16.47 | Kemayo | I haven't seen a heroic quest in the log yet -- does it just have "Heroic" as the tag on the right of the line? |
| 09:17.03 | alcaras | nymbia: but i'm typing /dump from the game, right? |
| 09:17.25 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: yea |
| 09:17.26 | ZealotOnAStick | They're still working on even tuning most of the dungeons for Heroic, so . . . |
| 09:17.29 | alcaras | ooh, /dump GameTooltip apparently works |
| 09:17.37 | haarm | here's another interesting statistic |
| 09:17.43 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: i added tag[DUNGEON_DIFFICULTY2] = 'd+' to quixote and it works |
| 09:17.44 | alcaras | doesn't do what i want but hrm |
| 09:17.52 | haarm | 39 out of 40 people, don't see the funny side of "Morning Glory Dew" |
| 09:17.56 | nymbia | alcaras: probably more output than you need, but what you're looking for should be in there. |
| 09:18.56 | markv | are those 39 people part of the mental illness group you talked about before? |
| 09:18.57 | alcaras | nymbia: it cuts off instead of being scrollupable |
| 09:19.08 | alcaras | nvm |
| 09:19.10 | alcaras | it is |
| 09:19.13 | alcaras | just a huge gap |
| 09:19.28 | haarm | at least 3.9 of them markv |
| 09:19.43 | alcaras | hrm |
| 09:19.51 | alcaras | how can i get a particular region? |
| 09:20.05 | alcaras | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.29 | Gnarfoz | <haarm> ok what about 70! <-- ! is used for rares by some tooltips (tinytip e.g.) |
| 09:20.40 | markv | my doctor thinks i have a mental illness of some sort, i told him he's the crazy one, not me! |
| 09:20.52 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 09:21.06 | markv | he laughed but seriously thinks i should take meds |
| 09:21.21 | Gnarfoz | mine just told me I have conjunctivitis |
| 09:21.22 | markv | it's so depressing |
| 09:21.37 | Kemayo | Ooo. There's a DUNGEON_DIFFICULTY3 defined already. |
| 09:21.38 | markv | well stay away from me please |
| 09:21.41 | markv | i don't want that pinkeye |
| 09:21.53 | abyssichate | Is there anything else close to Theorycraft apart Spelltips? |
| 09:21.59 | markv | i've had enough medical issues in the past year, pinkeye is something i don't need |
| 09:22.06 | Gnarfoz | heh indeed |
| 09:22.07 | haarm | Kemayo, in alpha there was 3 difficulties |
| 09:22.15 | haarm | normal, hard, and another one |
| 09:22.24 | haarm | now there's just normal and heroic |
| 09:22.25 | markv | unless if you want to trade medical maladies? |
| 09:22.29 | Gnarfoz | I have to keep my fingers on the keyboard... have to resist the itching :D |
| 09:22.46 | Kemayo | Epic, says globalstrings. |
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| 09:22.49 | markv | i've got a few things i can trade with you |
| 09:22.58 | nymbia | alcaras: /dump GameTooltipTextLeft3 (etc) |
| 09:23.10 | markv | red rover red rover send your pinkeye over! |
| 09:23.17 | Gnarfoz | http://zakuria.de/~smallbrain/wow/bc/bc_dungeonui.jpg <- yep, Elite, Hard and Normal |
| 09:23.33 | alcaras | nymbia: it isn't giving me the codes |
| 09:23.37 | Gnarfoz | markv: naww thanks, I'm fine with what I've got :\ |
| 09:23.37 | alcaras | i tried /dump getglobal("GameTooltipTextLeft1"):GetText() |
| 09:23.42 | alcaras | just shows up in green |
| 09:23.43 | markv | cmon |
| 09:23.46 | alcaras | (even though the item is blue) |
| 09:23.57 | nymbia | hmm |
| 09:24.04 | ckknight | alcaras, green with quotes around it? |
| 09:24.04 | markv | i'll trade you something that doesn't even irritate me right now |
| 09:24.08 | nymbia | maybe its not an escape code? |
| 09:24.09 | alcaras | yes ckknight |
| 09:24.15 | markv | you owuldn't be itchy then |
| 09:24.17 | ckknight | alcaras, that's code coloring. |
| 09:24.25 | ckknight | alcaras, GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetTextColor() |
| 09:24.31 | Gnarfoz | hmm maybe later. ;p I can throw in a sore throat, though |
| 09:24.35 | markv | ok |
| 09:24.45 | ckknight | alcaras, as a test, do /dump 1, 2, "alpha", true, nil, {} |
| 09:24.46 | markv | do we have a deal? |
| 09:25.03 | alcaras | ah, alpha is green |
| 09:25.19 | ckknight | and the others are their own colors based on type |
| 09:25.53 | Gnarfoz | deal. |
| 09:25.58 | markv | ok |
| 09:26.02 | markv | congrats on acquiring cancer! |
| 09:26.06 | Gnarfoz | yay! |
| 09:26.07 | markv | thanks fory our pinkeye and sore throat in exchange |
| 09:26.17 | Gnarfoz | You gain Cancer. |
| 09:26.35 | markv | i have some more stuffi can trade off |
| 09:26.45 | markv | WTT - medical maladies! |
| 09:27.31 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Anyone else got the problem where spelleffects stay on the landscape until you close the game? |
| 09:27.53 | `-FISKER_Q\ | in this av i have frost nova, tranquillity and whatever around the landscape |
| 09:27.55 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:28.10 | alcaras | ckknight: here's what i'm trying to do: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/315/okpw2.jpg basically i wnat to figure out the code to determine if that Socket bonus is active or not, so i can parse it |
| 09:28.12 | abbat_w | Fisker, are you already see 5k pyro crit on you landscape? :) |
| 09:28.22 | cheers | `-FISKER_Q\: Ive had that problem |
| 09:28.22 | alcaras | i'd also like to see what's the code for the sockets themselves |
| 09:28.31 | `-FISKER_Q\ | something like that abbat_w |
| 09:28.35 | cheers | `-FISKER_Q\: but no i don't know how to fixit. it comes and goes :/ |
| 09:28.42 | ckknight | alcaras, :GetTextColor() |
| 09:28.45 | `-FISKER_Q\ | same here :( |
| 09:28.52 | alcaras | ckknight: that doesn't give me hex |
| 09:28.56 | `-FISKER_Q\ | I'm almost inclined to think it's a serverside problem |
| 09:28.59 | alcaras | see the 0.999 stuff above |
| 09:29.03 | ckknight | alcaras, super easy to convert |
| 09:29.04 | haarm | alcaras, it's just as good |
| 09:29.34 | alcaras | also, what about the socket icons? |
| 09:29.46 | ckknight | local r,g,b,a = fs:GetTextColor(); return ("%02x%02x%02x%02x"):format(r*255,g*255,b*255,a*255) |
| 09:29.49 | alcaras | gettextcolor is returning white there |
| 09:29.56 | ckknight | not sure about that, alcaras |
| 09:30.04 | `-FISKER_Q\ | but it's pretty annoying since performance goes down the drain after 1 or 2 av's :( |
| 09:31.23 | cheers | :/ |
| 09:31.41 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21767 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: |
| 09:31.41 | CIA-17 | Quixote: |
| 09:31.41 | CIA-17 | -Add tagging/sorting for the new heroic difficulty quests. |
| 09:31.41 | CIA-17 | -Quick shot at catching the name-change to "group" from "elite" in TBC. |
| 09:31.41 | CIA-17 | -Trying out replacing hand-translated DUNGEON with LFG_TYPE_DUNGEON from globalstrings; see if people complain about it breaking... |
| 09:31.48 | alcaras | kk, thanks ckknight |
| 09:32.16 | haarm | Kemayo, what did you decide on? |
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| 09:32.29 | Kemayo | I'm going for d+ for now. |
| 09:33.46 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r21768 10oRA2/Participant/Item.lua: oRA2: nolonger scan bags for /raitem, just use GetItemCount. |
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| 09:34.44 | Velkyn | Anyone know which mod from ace might be preventing me from getting the "gear-icon" right-click symbol? |
| 09:35.21 | abyssichate | around the minimap? |
| 09:35.30 | Velkyn | no no, like.. |
| 09:35.33 | a-stray-cat | is it bad that my options portion of my addon is bigger than the work portion of my addon? :( |
| 09:35.34 | mjc_ | over lootable objects |
| 09:35.36 | Velkyn | Quest object, lying on the ground. |
| 09:35.56 | Velkyn | When I mouse-over nothing happens, wont let me right-click |
| 09:36.07 | Velkyn | GM suggested it was UI related, I removed everything and was able to get them |
| 09:36.18 | Velkyn | Would obviously like to NOT remove everything.. |
| 09:37.02 | Velkyn | mjc: "over lootable objects" whatcha mean by that? |
| 09:37.19 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21769 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Make sure the tag is always returned as a string. |
| 09:37.24 | mjc_ | trying to clarify what you said |
| 09:38.51 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21770 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (6 files): FuBar_QuestsFu: Just use Quixote's tags. |
| 09:39.10 | Kemayo | And now... sleep! |
| 09:39.28 | nevcairiel | good night |
| 09:39.35 | Mikma | mm |
| 09:42.16 | Velkyn | Any ideas? |
| 09:42.47 | haarm | Velkyn, only thing i can think of would be one with a transparent frame on the screen somewhere |
| 09:43.07 | Velkyn | *hmm* |
| 09:43.10 | haarm | try moving the camera angle and hovering over the object from a different area of the screen |
| 09:43.22 | haarm | like to the extreme top/bottom/left/right |
| 09:43.31 | Velkyn | But then it would stand to reason I could move my pov around so the "item" was no longer under the transparent frame, yes? |
| 09:43.47 | haarm | that's what i'm asking you to test ;) |
| 09:44.03 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :O |
| 09:44.17 | `-FISKER_Q\ | will be cool if blizzard can do maintanence without taking servers offline |
| 09:44.29 | Velkyn | No dice Haarm :( |
| 09:44.38 | haarm | fisker, with such large databases, really can't do live backups |
| 09:45.10 | haarm | or optimisations |
| 09:45.30 | `-FISKER_Q\ | well they're going to try anyways :P |
| 09:45.36 | cheers | lol |
| 09:45.41 | cheers | they're going to live updates (hopefully) |
| 09:45.59 | haarm | gonna be huge amounts of fun |
| 09:46.11 | haarm | can't wait to test duping with instance zoning again :) |
| 09:46.16 | cheers | lold |
| 09:46.19 | Gnarfoz | wasn't there (veeeery long ago) a post on the US forums stating that weekly maintenance was supposed to be a 'temporary measure'? |
| 09:46.34 | `-FISKER_Q\ | This tuesday they will not take down the servers |
| 09:46.54 | nymbia | Gnarfoz: nah. at release it was nightly, then they scaled it back from there. |
| 09:47.04 | Gnarfoz | oh. |
| 09:47.07 | Gnarfoz | < EU |
| 09:47.08 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 09:47.15 | Gnarfoz | never had daily/nightly maintenance ^^ |
| 09:47.18 | haarm | well I guess... if their db servers are somehow in a cluster that syncs, they could take a secondary server offline to do backups at least, if they don't already |
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| 09:47.45 | haarm | then it would just catch up when it was brought back online |
| 09:47.56 | Arrowmaster | aha omfg perfect fucking timing while killing vandar in AV, got 30% damage buff from drek, 10% from battle standard, 20% from powerinfusion, 13% from guildmembers CoS, poped bloodfury for +123 dmg, poped toep for +175 dmg...... |
| 09:47.57 | Arrowmaster | and got a 3346 shadowbolt HIT |
| 09:48.01 | `-FISKER_Q\ | backups are for pussies anyways |
| 09:48.22 | haarm | riiight, fiskers account got hacked, we can't give you back your stuff, we have no record of it, records are for pussies |
| 09:48.31 | Neebler | does anyone know if kc_mobility remembers window positions after logout? |
| 09:48.53 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: nerf warlocks |
| 09:49.00 | `-FISKER_Q\ | my account doesn't get hacked. |
| 09:49.11 | nymbia | Neebler: yup, cept for uipanels and bags. |
| 09:49.25 | haarm | fisker.. click this link.. :D |
| 09:49.47 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i won't |
| 09:50.03 | haarm | it contains freely bouncing breasts |
| 09:50.10 | nymbia | lol |
| 09:50.37 | yacoob | keyword spoted. Boobies where? |
| 09:50.47 | `-FISKER_Q\ | even if it contained muddy dicks i wouldn't click it |
| 09:51.02 | haarm | oh right, got the sexual preference wrong :x |
| 09:51.24 | yacoob | (.)(.) |
| 09:51.44 | haarm | I have a novelty inflatable hammer |
| 09:51.56 | evl | If you want wierd |
| 09:52.00 | evl | I got this paste today: http://www.riechmichund.com/ |
| 09:52.03 | vhaarr | haarm: those things are smashers at parties |
| 09:52.06 | evl | It's vagina smell in a bottle. |
| 09:52.26 | haarm | and it comes as a paste? |
| 09:52.30 | haarm | like a sandwich paste? |
| 09:52.51 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 09:52.57 | evl | in a bottle, 20€ for a tiny vial |
| 09:52.58 | Velkyn | umm....eww |
| 09:53.02 | cheers | o.O |
| 09:53.11 | Gnarfoz | that domain literally translates to: smell me and .cum ;D |
| 09:53.42 | evl | Well, it's the internet, enough space for wierdness |
| 09:53.56 | yacoob | evl, you betcha |
| 09:54.03 | yacoob | I found a map of sexual deviations one day |
| 09:54.08 | evl | hoho :) |
| 09:54.11 | yacoob | it was most educating entering keywords to google |
| 09:54.17 | yacoob | imagine... |
| 09:54.26 | yacoob | pedal pumping fetishists gallery |
| 09:54.58 | haarm | so is it some artificial smell replica, or is some bint just peddling pussy juice ? |
| 09:54.59 | evl | heh, you should downloa Dexter |
| 09:55.04 | evl | best wierdest TV show ever |
| 09:55.13 | yacoob | Dexter, the boy genious? |
| 09:55.16 | evl | No :) |
| 09:55.16 | yacoob | genius? |
| 09:55.30 | evl | He's a forensics blood spatter specialist during the day and serial killer during the night :D |
| 09:55.43 | yacoob | CSI spinoff? |
| 09:55.47 | evl | much better |
| 09:56.03 | yacoob | I don't like CSI, so it's not much of recomendation for me :D |
| 09:56.09 | yacoob | or rather |
| 09:56.17 | evl | Here's a trailer |
| 09:56.17 | evl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UJz0O2NjOo |
| 09:56.17 | yacoob | i'm indifferent to it :D |
| 09:56.22 | evl | Really gives you the feeling of the series :D |
| 09:56.28 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07Rabbit * r21771 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFu.lua: FuBar_ReagentFu: Use GetItemCount. |
| 09:56.58 | kebinusan | I cant believe I still watch naruto after like 100 episodes of filler |
| 09:57.09 | Arrowmaster | me too.... |
| 09:57.20 | evl | <kebinusan> I cant believe I watch naruto <- corrected |
| 09:57.22 | yacoob | kebinusan, good. Look here, exclusive crappy naruto merchandise *wave*wave* |
| 09:57.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Dexter is awesome. |
| 09:57.56 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm so glad there's going to be a second season. |
| 09:57.57 | evl | Dexter is the best series since... |
| 09:58.01 | evl | Anything |
| 09:58.12 | kebinusan | You know, at least when bleach when into filler episodes there was an arc there... naruto is just animed diarrhea |
| 09:58.12 | evl | It's brilliant because it doesn't have to fill itself up with internal drama like LOST crap |
| 09:58.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm sad to lose Deadwood, but Dexter is an even better replacement. |
| 09:58.29 | evl | never seen deadwood :P |
| 09:58.35 | evl | But I'm only on episode 9 of dexter |
| 09:58.39 | ZealotOnAStick | You should. |
| 09:59.08 | ZealotOnAStick | yacoob - Dexter is nothing like CSI. |
| 09:59.30 | Gnarfoz | anyone with some apache knowledge around? |
| 09:59.33 | Srosh | mh, did Blizz skip 2.0.2? -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59665995&sid=1 |
| 09:59.48 | kebinusan | Gnarfoz: my friend google has tons of apache knowledge |
| 09:59.49 | yacoob | Gnarfoz, a bit here. |
| 09:59.56 | Gnarfoz | kebinusan: :p |
| 10:00.23 | cheers | Srosh: it was probably internal only |
| 10:00.25 | Arrowmaster | Srosh: kinda, 2.0.2 was going to be what TBC was going to be but it seems they decided to move to 2.0.3 |
| 10:00.29 | Gnarfoz | I get tons of 'overlapping virtual host' errors :\ |
| 10:00.29 | cheers | we do that sometimes |
| 10:00.40 | Srosh | interesting |
| 10:01.03 | yacoob | I watched Heroes last week, but it was only interesting till ep. 5 |
| 10:01.34 | haarm | Gnarfoz, are you using the mass vhosting module ? |
| 10:02.03 | evl | yacoob: it picks up again very fast |
| 10:02.16 | Gnarfoz | hmm no. 'tons' was actually more of a relative term: I get one error for almost every vhost I have (which somewhere around 20) |
| 10:02.23 | yacoob | evl, no, I watched it till 11. |
| 10:02.33 | haarm | using name based i guess? |
| 10:02.34 | yacoob | evl, but on 5th something made me go 'Oh, please...' |
| 10:02.36 | Gnarfoz | it says 'maybe you need a NameVirtualHost' directive |
| 10:02.44 | Gnarfoz | but I have one :\ |
| 10:02.54 | haarm | have you declared you're using name based vhosting, not ip based? |
| 10:02.57 | Gnarfoz | yes, name based, just two IPs on the box |
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| 10:03.07 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 10:03.14 | [Liquidor] | How do I hook the whisper channel and return (hide) it if needed? |
| 10:03.24 | [Liquidor] | I know how to do it without Ace, but with? |
| 10:03.25 | haarm | i havn't set up an apache for ages, but im sure there is the option somewhere :D |
| 10:03.27 | Gnarfoz | not explicitly beside just using NameVirtualHost and then <VirtualHost domain.de>? |
| 10:03.28 | vhaarr | [Liquidor]: BigWigs\Plugins\RaidWarn.lua |
| 10:03.39 | [Liquidor] | What? |
| 10:03.41 | [Liquidor] | Oh |
| 10:03.42 | [Liquidor] | Thanks |
| 10:07.03 | haarm | Gnarfoz, all you need is NameVirtualHost ip:80 then each declaration of <VirtualHost ip:80> |
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| 10:07.59 | Gnarfoz | hm. my web based vhost management thingy writes the config file, and it uses <VirtualHost domain-name.de:80>, which I have used for my hand-created VHosts as well... doesn't that work anymore? o_O |
| 10:08.30 | `-FISKER_Q\ | does the new "northrend" forums have voice in them? |
| 10:09.46 | `-FISKER_Q\ | ah QQ |
| 10:09.55 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Blizzard knows about my issue with the spell effect |
| 10:09.55 | `-FISKER_Q\ | s |
| 10:10.01 | `-FISKER_Q\ | but they can't repro it :( |
| 10:10.17 | `-FISKER_Q\ | and no fix available other than relogging |
| 10:10.35 | cheers | :( |
| 10:10.56 | `-FISKER_Q\ | gonna try to download these massive nvidia drivers :P |
| 10:14.57 | ckknight | im in ur serverz splittin ur netz |
| 10:14.57 | nymbia | ohnoes |
| 10:14.58 | cheers | lol |
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| 10:14.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 10:14.58 | Kaelten | geez bad netsplit |
| 10:14.58 | ckknight | im in ur serverz splittin ur netz |
| 10:14.58 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 10:14.58 | Kaelten | im in ur acountz shardzn ur purplz |
| 10:16.21 | [Liquidor] | =) |
| 10:16.21 | [Liquidor] | the split killed me ingame |
| 10:16.56 | [Liquidor] | Is WhisperHandler(event) an even I have to register or hook or nothing or? |
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| 10:17.39 | ckknight | [Liquidor], rephrase |
| 10:17.56 | [Liquidor] | Goal: To hide incomming/outgoing whispers. |
| 10:18.01 | [Liquidor] | Don't know how to with Ace |
| 10:18.38 | ckknight | you hook ChatFrame_MessageHandler |
| 10:18.40 | [Liquidor] | Without ace you hook the event but with Ace I got no clue what to write |
| 10:18.46 | ckknight | and check for event == "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER" |
| 10:19.07 | ckknight | [Liquidor], look up AceHook-2.1 |
| 10:19.14 | [Liquidor] | Ye will do |
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| 10:23.45 | [Liquidor] | Arh okay |
| 10:24.05 | [Liquidor] | so if I get this right self.hooks is the standard return aight? and not providing that one will hide the message?! |
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| 10:27.03 | ckknight | yes |
| 10:33.36 | Garoun|Loupana | too early |
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| 10:42.27 | haarm | all you fuckers left me on the other server |
| 10:43.28 | haarm | anyway, I was commenting on how it's stupid with the new PTR how they don't let beta participants copy their lvl 70s over |
| 10:44.34 | haarm | then we could actually get together and make some dungeon transcripts |
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| 10:56.43 | Kaelten | oneview has been updated for those who care |
| 10:56.59 | Kaelten | sincs CIA is missing |
| 10:57.47 | Kaelten | anyone who's having the 7th bank bag problems with OneView present? |
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| 11:03.33 | Kaelten | hey your back! |
| 11:03.33 | Kaelten | :) |
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| 11:03.33 | andremar_ | :) |
| 11:04.18 | add\\Leialyn | hi, anyone knows what happend to GMail ? |
| 11:04.32 | Kaelten | add\\Leialyn: we had to remove it from the svn at Cide's request |
| 11:04.49 | add\\Leialyn | not developed anymore or not aced anymore ? |
| 11:04.52 | Kaelten | it had large portions of code that was pretty close to a copy paste |
| 11:05.01 | Kaelten | no cide wrote CT_MailMod |
| 11:05.10 | Kaelten | which Gmail seems to have borrowed a lot of code from |
| 11:05.20 | Kaelten | I'm hoping someone will rewrite gmail to fix this issue. |
| 11:05.27 | add\\Leialyn | I hope as well |
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| 11:05.55 | add\\Leialyn | I hated ct_mailmods dependency on ct_mastermod (or core now) |
| 11:06.02 | add\\Leialyn | thats why I used Gmail |
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| 11:06.44 | kebinusan | try expressmail I think thats supposed to be somethin like that |
| 11:07.02 | SoLoR | add\\Leialyn or just use old version and dont update gmail... |
| 11:07.08 | ZealotOnAStick | CT_Mailmod isn't dependant on core/mastermod. |
| 11:07.13 | add\\Leialyn | it was |
| 11:07.19 | Nickenyfiken | i still got my gmail copy and i have no issue with it so i will stick with it :-) |
| 11:07.20 | add\\Leialyn | before 2.0 |
| 11:07.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Never has been. Uses CT_Library . . . |
| 11:07.27 | kebinusan | I miss bulkmail |
| 11:07.33 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 11:07.36 | SoLoR | ye now it has 50k+ library... |
| 11:07.41 | abbat_w | any 'hidden' links to gmail? ;) |
| 11:07.42 | SoLoR | only for mail mod! yay |
| 11:07.52 | add\\Leialyn | hehe yea Solor |
| 11:07.55 | ZealotOnAStick | The only CT mods I've used for over a year were MailMod, Viewport, and CTRA, and have never used/had Core/Mastermod |
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| 11:08.46 | Kaelten | abbat_w: no comment |
| 11:08.51 | SoLoR | ^^^^ |
| 11:08.55 | Kaelten | ZealotOnAStick: at some point there where |
| 11:09.20 | Kaelten | CT_Master whatever is part of the thing that fucks with bank bag buying or at least did |
| 11:09.34 | add\\Leialyn | " just use old version and dont update gmail..." <- I always update via svn and the tool deleted my files :x |
| 11:10.05 | Kaelten | update to revision xxxxx |
| 11:10.10 | Sun\Nether | fubar: the bar is autoadjusted in detached mode, it should'nt :) |
| 11:10.15 | add\\Leialyn | humn... :> |
| 11:10.17 | SoLoR | and then erase .svn from gmail folder |
| 11:10.40 | Sun\Nether | ckknight: fubar, the bar is autoadjusted in detached mode, it should'nt :) |
| 11:10.50 | CIA-17 | 03gits * r21778 10Acolyte/ (. Acolyte.toc): |
| 11:10.50 | CIA-17 | Acolyte: |
| 11:10.50 | CIA-17 | - Initial Release |
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| 11:11.40 | Ani| | hehe, it works :c |
| 11:13.03 | Ani| | http://www.wowace.com/files/ will be updated all 20 mins ? |
| 11:13.40 | Kaelten | yep |
| 11:13.56 | Ani| | k :) |
| 11:14.07 | Kaelten | script should starting in about 5 mins or so |
| 11:14.10 | Kaelten | takes 3-5 mins to run |
| 11:14.24 | Ani| | ok thanks ^^ |
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| 11:18.15 | CIA-17 | 03sorren * r21779 10CooldownTimers2/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:18.15 | CIA-17 | CooldownTimers2: initial commit |
| 11:18.15 | CIA-17 | - Cooldown Timers re-written using Ace. Creates groupable bars displaying the status of your item/ability/pet cooldowns. |
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| 11:22.50 | CIA-17 | 03sorren * r21780 10CooldownTimers2/ (. group-presets.lua): |
| 11:22.50 | CIA-17 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 11:22.50 | CIA-17 | - Set up externals. Is there a way to do that on the initial commit? Also removed useless file I forgot about. |
| 11:31.45 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r21781 10Lute/ (. Lute.lua Lute.toc): |
| 11:31.45 | CIA-17 | Lute - |
| 11:31.45 | CIA-17 | - Clamps the loot frame to screen |
| 11:31.45 | CIA-17 | - Makes the loot frame movable |
| 11:31.58 | zoktar | would it be hard to "make" bartender3 barslots to be separateable ? |
| 11:32.38 | a-stray-cat | goodnite all. |
| 11:35.03 | Mikma | zoktar: what? |
| 11:35.05 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r21782 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Don't allow empty buffs |
| 11:37.33 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r21783 10Lute/ (. Lute.lua Lute.toc): |
| 11:37.33 | CIA-17 | Lute - |
| 11:37.33 | CIA-17 | - Removed unneeded lib |
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| 11:39.20 | Gnarfoz | <@Kaelten> it had large portions of code that was pretty close to a copy paste <-- yeah and SCO has a copyright on the linux kernel... >_> |
| 11:39.58 | [Liquidor] | quickly, how does the loop look like to go though all splitted values of a variable? |
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| 11:40.20 | Gnarfoz | Grennons forum thread for GMail explicitly calls it a 'take apart and put together again' rewrite :\ |
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| 11:41.14 | SoLoR | Gnarfoz ye he(we?) seperated functions, renamed, used acehooking and put back together :) |
| 11:42.01 | SoLoR | only thing that was written on his own was item stacking as far as i saw |
| 11:42.04 | Gnarfoz | .oO( my guess: there are lots of other 'aceified' addons like that around ) |
| 11:42.29 | CIA-17 | 03sorren * r21784 10CooldownTimers2/ (Core.lua fubar-plugin.lua): |
| 11:42.29 | CIA-17 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 11:42.29 | CIA-17 | - Killed a zombie group that wouldn't die. |
| 11:42.49 | Worf | can anybody help me with the UnitPopup menue? I can't eaven insert a entry to the UnitPopupMenus table without getting errors. How can i extend the menue correctly? |
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| 11:44.10 | Worf | it seems that writing to the table allready compromises the whole menue |
| 11:44.16 | CIA-17 | 03kaelten * r21785 10cgProfiler/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 11:44.16 | CIA-17 | cgProfiler - |
| 11:44.16 | CIA-17 | - Added properties |
| 11:45.34 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r21786 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: Lets not remove the Load All option for the Other menu when it doesn't need to be removed. |
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| 11:48.00 | Worf | i don't get it... i do a "table.insert(UnitPopupMenus["FRIEND"], table.getn(UnitPopupMenus["FRIEND"]),"NOTE")" - and if i klick on the "target" entry ingame ( a entry i didn't touch at all ), WoW tells me "disable or ignore" |
| 11:48.21 | Nargiddley | that'll be due to tainting |
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| 11:48.58 | Worf | hmm |
| 11:49.29 | Worf | damn |
| 11:49.54 | Worf | any solution to that problem? |
| 11:50.30 | Worf | or some docu that could help me understand... |
| 11:50.56 | Nargiddley | i dont think theres a way around it :/, can't be sure tho |
| 11:51.47 | Kirkburn | For some reason the template on this page is broken: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/%21%21%21StandaloneLibraries |
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| 12:13.22 | Worf | sigh. everytime i start to get used to the new restrictions i run into a new problem that ruins my day |
| 12:14.44 | [Cu]Werik | My day is already ruined and it hasn't even started yet |
| 12:23.11 | xgravix | but the restrictions make the game more fun for everybody... <gag> |
| 12:25.27 | Daemona | xgravix: like ... no raidframe changes in combat? so you cant switch around those mana-tide shamans? |
| 12:25.47 | kenlyric|home | man, I wonder what vael is like now. |
| 12:26.17 | Daemona | uuh |
| 12:26.26 | Daemona | still the mob that causes most casualities? |
| 12:26.55 | kenlyric|home | well, AV causes more, now, since a lot less people have been raiding. |
| 12:27.05 | Fisker- | i love this av |
| 12:27.11 | kenlyric|home | but I know our strat was to keep priests in groups with five alive people as long as possible. |
| 12:27.21 | Fisker- | 900 silvermoon rep |
| 12:27.43 | kenlyric|home | so there was someone constantly moving people into dead groups, making sure the rogues/warriors always had priests. |
| 12:29.09 | nuOHEP | Fisker-: how do you gain rep in av? storm crystal / scraps etc turn ins? |
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| 12:29.21 | kenlyric|home | what i love about those most dangerous mob reports is that tamed hunter pets retain their identity. So you can pretty easily see which are the most popular pets. |
| 12:30.09 | CIA-17 | 03flutia * r21787 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: Temporary update koKR (crashes on Korean client) |
| 12:30.29 | kenlyric|home | though I imagine over time the number of broken Tooth's will drop. |
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| 12:36.44 | [Liquidor] | How do I make a loop and a split? |
| 12:36.56 | [Liquidor] | I've tried everything but error on all of it, yes I've RTFM |
| 12:37.01 | krka | vague questions FTW |
| 12:37.14 | [Liquidor] | well I want to loop through the values in a split |
| 12:37.15 | krka | while condition do <code> end |
| 12:37.35 | [Liquidor] | okay so how do I make a split then, that's the part where I get an error everytime |
| 12:37.57 | [Liquidor] | string.???(variable, seperator) |
| 12:38.00 | krka | have you really RTFM? |
| 12:38.03 | [Liquidor] | yes |
| 12:38.19 | [Liquidor] | gsub, gfind, gmatch, find, tried em all but seems to get an error on all |
| 12:38.23 | phyber | Toolbox has a split function. |
| 12:38.24 | krka | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.gmatch |
| 12:38.26 | [Liquidor] | anything im missing? |
| 12:38.33 | krka | even has an example |
| 12:38.40 | krka | though it needs slight modifications |
| 12:38.51 | [Liquidor] | uhm then the error must be from something else |
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| 12:39.56 | [Liquidor] | what if I just need a seperator as pattern? |
| 12:40.01 | dafire | hi ? |
| 12:40.06 | dafire | :) |
| 12:40.15 | [Liquidor] | I'm not good at patterns yet |
| 12:40.18 | dafire | who is adding zul'farrak bosses to babble-boss ? |
| 12:40.44 | krka | you could use "[^, ]" as seperator |
| 12:41.37 | phreaky | Is there an addon that u can add words to ignore whispers that include them? For example ignore http or www to ignore whole whispers that include that? |
| 12:41.49 | krka | hmm... |
| 12:42.00 | krka | "[^, ]+" is better |
| 12:42.12 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric|home: from what i remember that 'most dangerous mob report' said 'cat' with a comment that it was refering to cat hunter pets that still had the default name of 'cat' |
| 12:42.32 | neenee | hehe |
| 12:43.40 | kenlyric|home | well, they don't go by name anymore. |
| 12:43.48 | kenlyric|home | the reference the animal they were before taming. |
| 12:43.58 | kenlyric|home | *they |
| 12:44.44 | Srosh | ~seen cladhaire |
| 12:45.48 | purl | cladhaire is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 44m 4s), last said: 'okay, i'm going to bed'. |
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| 12:49.10 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r21788 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Core.lua RulesDot.lua RulesStun.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - SHOULD now work on deDE |
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| 12:50.28 | CIA-17 | 03dafire * r21789 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 12:50.28 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:50.28 | CIA-17 | - emergency fix... removing bugging zul'farrak entries from other languages |
| 12:51.31 | [dRaCo] | Am I really the only one who's got problems with sRaidFrames? |
| 12:52.13 | phyber | what problems? |
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| 12:52.24 | Codayus | Is there a relatively simple way to add a line to all item tooltips? |
| 12:52.44 | [dRaCo] | It sometimes just stops updating, the range check doesnt always work |
| 12:53.17 | [dRaCo] | And everytime I start the game and join a bg, I get weird graphic bugs |
| 12:53.31 | [dRaCo] | the frames are there, but just the textures |
| 12:53.37 | [dRaCo] | No colors, no text |
| 12:54.30 | [dRaCo] | already asked saroz, but he couldn't reproduce it :/ |
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| 12:56.46 | alcaras | Codayus: gratuitylib, but i am just looking into learning how to use it now |
| 12:56.55 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro * r21790 10ArkInventory/ (18 files in 13 dirs): |
| 12:56.56 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: initial commit |
| 12:56.56 | CIA-17 | - bag, keyring, bank display mod |
| 12:57.06 | Codayus | alcaras: Hmm, alright. |
| 12:57.42 | Arrowmaster | gratuitylib is for reading tooltips not adding to them |
| 12:57.49 | Codayus | alcaras: That seems to be ...yeah, what Arrowmaster said. |
| 12:58.00 | alcaras | err |
| 12:58.00 | Neebler | arkinventory eh? screenshot! |
| 12:58.11 | alcaras | well for what i'm doing i need to read them and then add to them |
| 12:58.16 | alcaras | i just hook them and then add to them |
| 12:58.44 | alcaras | for a nice (but complex) way of hooking, ratingbuster has nice code |
| 12:58.53 | alcaras | for a dead simple way of hooking, look at warmath on wowinterface |
| 12:58.56 | Arrowmaster | theres some big changes to how tooltips are done in 2.0.3 vs 2.0.1 |
| 12:59.58 | dafire | there are new functions coming .. i think the ptr is there := |
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| 13:02.26 | alcaras | i just code on beta :p |
| 13:02.29 | alcaras | which has 2.0.3 |
| 13:02.59 | Gnarfoz | as long as you don't release that stuff for live usage afterwards... ;) |
| 13:03.19 | alcaras | i don't release private code, but i do release compilations |
| 13:03.33 | alcaras | i presume stuff off of wowace.com/files is live+beta friendly if it works on beta |
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| 13:07.49 | Gnarfoz | kind of weird presumption, seeing that beta has newer code than live;)^ |
| 13:09.07 | alcaras | well wowace.com/files is supposed to be live friendly |
| 13:10.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, so if you code on beta only, and it works there... who knows if it works on live also ;) |
| 13:10.39 | alcaras | Gnarfoz: right, but who cares since i only code for myself (for now) and don't plan on renewing live until tbc comes out :p |
| 13:10.52 | Gnarfoz | heh good point ^^ |
| 13:11.21 | dafire | i think we'll see 2.0.3 on live a week before tbc comes out |
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| 13:12.34 | [Cu]Werik | I thought TBC is vaporware:P |
| 13:12.58 | alcaras | i just wish people would pvp on beta :( |
| 13:13.15 | alcaras | arenas are dead, bgs are dead, world pvp is dead |
| 13:13.20 | alcaras | even the entire pvp server is dead |
| 13:13.32 | alcaras | i can only take so much pve before i can't take it anymore |
| 13:13.52 | dafire | beta is for testing .. not for playing ,9 |
| 13:14.43 | [Cu]Werik | I think you are confused dafire, that's the live one you are talking about |
| 13:15.12 | alcaras | i want to test arena point earnings |
| 13:15.13 | alcaras | but i can't |
| 13:15.16 | alcaras | no one wants to play |
| 13:15.30 | alcaras | and yeah, pushing 2.0 to live was interesting |
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| 13:15.38 | alcaras | bugs i had reported a month ago went live :-/ |
| 13:16.00 | dafire | because the code that went live was a month old .) |
| 13:16.05 | [Cu]Werik | Paladin bug I reported in us beta is still live |
| 13:16.21 | [Cu]Werik | since what? two and a half years? |
| 13:16.57 | Kirkburn | What bug? |
| 13:17.06 | [Cu]Werik | SoC bug |
| 13:17.26 | [Cu]Werik | when it stucks and you have to use another rank |
| 13:19.08 | Fisker- | they don't care |
| 13:19.11 | Fisker- | it's that simple |
| 13:19.13 | Fisker- | they got their own QA |
| 13:20.21 | Kirkburn | "On Tuesday, December 26 there will be no scheduled downtime for weekly maintenance" |
| 13:20.50 | Daemona | goddamn dont ever dare mentioning blizzards Raid instance QA team .... |
| 13:20.54 | Kirkburn | Of course they don't care, which is why they have a PTR and a beta? |
| 13:21.20 | sbu | wtb ArkInventory ss |
| 13:21.37 | Fisker- | they have them for user satisfaction |
| 13:21.38 | Neebler | ditto |
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| 13:22.10 | Fisker- | pretty much all bugs and feedback on ptr has been ignored for live |
| 13:22.10 | Daemona | 3 steps to arkinventory screenshot: 1. Download 2. extract 3. start wow |
| 13:22.10 | Daemona | :D |
| 13:22.10 | Fisker- | they themselves have said the only way to report bugs is using the us bug report forum on beta |
| 13:22.13 | sbu | heh ;p yep... |
| 13:22.19 | Fisker- | that leaves feedback out of the loop as well |
| 13:22.19 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, you have an extremely cynical view for some reason |
| 13:22.29 | sbu | hmm |
| 13:22.34 | Daemona | no, Fisker- is realistic |
| 13:22.39 | Kirkburn | No, he isn't |
| 13:22.40 | sbu | externals broken |
| 13:23.03 | Daemona | <- german raid guild, we did like all available content, including that nightbane quest line of karazhan, raid gruul and magtheridon |
| 13:23.09 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, do you have any experience of the TBC beta? |
| 13:23.16 | Kirkburn | Because if you did, you'd know you are completely wrong |
| 13:23.17 | Daemona | we posted bugs, we reported em |
| 13:23.22 | Daemona | some are still around |
| 13:23.25 | Kirkburn | *some* |
| 13:23.31 | Kirkburn | The important word there |
| 13:23.33 | Fisker- | i am in the beta |
| 13:23.37 | Kirkburn | You can't fix everything immmediately |
| 13:23.38 | Daemona | some as in "all that we reported" |
| 13:23.39 | Fisker- | and the same Daemona |
| 13:24.00 | Kirkburn | What? Now you're changin what you said! |
| 13:24.14 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro * r21791 10ArkInventory/: |
| 13:24.15 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 13:24.15 | CIA-17 | - externals added |
| 13:24.16 | Daemona | the rest was just SO obvious that we assumed the QA team would see them on first time doing an encounter |
| 13:24.27 | sbu | heh... :p |
| 13:24.31 | Daemona | well 3 patches later its still around |
| 13:24.52 | Fisker- | and i'm so pissed about being ignored as a rogue |
| 13:24.56 | Kirkburn | So? It's a beta, things are getting fixed, but not in the order you wish |
| 13:24.58 | Fisker- | everything just makes it harder |
| 13:25.14 | Fisker- | and every feedback any rogue has ever made has been blindly ignored |
| 13:25.20 | Daemona | Fisker- do you know from mind how many blue-posts the rogue forumst got during beta? |
| 13:25.27 | alcaras | warrior forums got 1. |
| 13:25.32 | alcaras | tseric saying hi to aedak |
| 13:25.35 | alcaras | which says everything |
| 13:25.35 | Kirkburn | 60-70 content is higher priority than 70 raid instances, and if you don't get that, I don't think you'll get anything |
| 13:25.38 | Fisker- | 1 pretty much |
| 13:25.39 | nuOHEP | around 0 imo :) |
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| 13:26.22 | Daemona | yeah, i think its the sticky telling us to give feedback and report bugs in the class forum isnt it? |
| 13:26.27 | Kirkburn | Oh ffs, blue posts on a forum is NOT indicative of how much work a class is getting |
| 13:26.35 | Fisker- | we got a thread where kalgan said weapon skill was imba, it got nerfed, deal with it, thought we might buff it(TO AN ASTOUNDING 1% CRIT vs. higher level PVE MOBS) |
| 13:26.49 | Fisker- | like i want to go down 6 tiers to get 1/5 of malice |
| 13:26.52 | Daemona | 1 crit for 10 points ;) |
| 13:27.24 | Daemona | and you know what? |
| 13:27.37 | Daemona | rogues grp utility is the same as pre-60 in retail |
| 13:27.49 | Fisker- | ? |
| 13:27.54 | Fisker- | you mean none? :P |
| 13:27.55 | Daemona | only bring a rogue if you cant bring anything else |
| 13:27.57 | sbu | looks like enginventory replacement |
| 13:27.58 | Daemona | yep |
| 13:27.58 | Fisker- | heh |
| 13:27.59 | sbu | yay |
| 13:28.16 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know |
| 13:28.24 | Fisker- | they didn't even have the courtesy to remove the throwing weapon REPEATABLE quest now that they made throwing weapons durabillity based instead |
| 13:28.24 | Kirkburn | Wow, you are two severely jaded guys |
| 13:28.32 | sbu | *sort* |
| 13:28.36 | sbu | screenshot coming soon ;p |
| 13:28.40 | [Cu]Werik | Rogues are still the only class which can sustain its damage for unlimited amount of time |
| 13:28.47 | [Cu]Werik | their* |
| 13:28.48 | Kirkburn | sbu, oh yes? |
| 13:28.51 | Daemona | if i wasnt in a guild that wanted to test raid encounters i wouldnt have seen any instance i guess, i still havent seen 2 of 3 hellfire citadel instances from the inside |
| 13:28.55 | Fisker- | warriors can as well |
| 13:29.15 | [Cu]Werik | aaaa, not that well imho |
| 13:29.17 | Fisker- | and ulimited is irrelevant when encounters aren't unlimited |
| 13:29.23 | Daemona | [Cu]Werik how much infinite dmg do you need in a 5man instance ? |
| 13:29.24 | Kirkburn | Warriors aren't able to bandage in combat as easily though |
| 13:29.38 | [Cu]Werik | You wont play 5 man instances more than 5 times:P |
| 13:29.45 | Daemona | you WILL |
| 13:29.45 | Kirkburn | Plus much of the time they're in danger of death |
| 13:29.58 | Fisker- | Unless bosses have infinty HP this argument is irrelevant |
| 13:29.59 | Daemona | due to reputations mainly being upped by running instances |
| 13:30.01 | Kirkburn | What? |
| 13:30.03 | Daemona | doing quests |
| 13:30.11 | Kirkburn | Daemona, how you play is not how everyone else must play |
| 13:30.13 | Fisker- | cause more mages = more damage = less time = more damage over time |
| 13:30.30 | Kirkburn | An awful lot of rep quests are OUTSIDE instances |
| 13:30.40 | [Cu]Werik | I usually care like |-| this much about reputation |
| 13:30.41 | Kirkburn | Whcih you should know, given that you obviously know so much about all this |
| 13:30.45 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r21792 10Capping/ (8 files): |
| 13:30.45 | CIA-17 | Capping |
| 13:30.45 | CIA-17 | - Random code cleaning (lots of it), put options in a separate file |
| 13:30.45 | CIA-17 | - AV auto quest turnins now uses itemID and GetItemCount! Localization removed for those quest items. |
| 13:30.46 | CIA-17 | - Added queue wait timers (disabled by default) |
| 13:30.46 | CIA-17 | - Added deplete/fill option for statusbars |
| 13:30.48 | CIA-17 | - I know I'm forgetting something |
| 13:30.48 | alcaras | i have completed every instance in beta, except karazhan (only 4 bosses, but several times); gruul (never zoned in), magtheridon (wiped once in october with a pug :P), arcatraz (still getting key), world tree raid (is that even available?) |
| 13:31.18 | Daemona | k, then tell me how you want to reach exalted cenarion expidition without running coilfang instances repeatedly for the armaments? |
| 13:31.29 | alcaras | you don't |
| 13:31.35 | Daemona | werik, the problem about reputations is, you need em |
| 13:31.36 | Fisker- | can't you do the plant quest over? |
| 13:31.43 | [Cu]Werik | they will come with time:) |
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| 13:31.44 | Fisker- | i believe one our druids did that |
| 13:31.45 | Kirkburn | Everyone wants exalted Cenarion rep? |
| 13:31.48 | Daemona | e.g. best known melee head enchant is from repu atm |
| 13:32.02 | Kirkburn | I didn't say all rep is outside instances, but you have options |
| 13:32.05 | Grine | Anyone here working on Prat? |
| 13:32.06 | alcaras | you could do plant quest |
| 13:32.07 | Daemona | best leg enchant -> guess -> repu grind |
| 13:32.24 | alcaras | daemona: rep grinds are much faster than the old cenarioan circle rep |
| 13:32.26 | [Cu]Werik | Yeah well, I just hate even the idea of grinding for reputation 24/7 to get a head enchantment |
| 13:32.37 | nuOHEP | umm... bets legs is leatherworking imo |
| 13:32.41 | sbu | ok - many bugs in arkinventory |
| 13:32.43 | Kirkburn | I hate the idea of playing for anything other than fun =) |
| 13:32.46 | alcaras | i play for fun |
| 13:32.49 | sbu | but looks very promising |
| 13:32.50 | Fisker- | heh |
| 13:32.50 | [Cu]Werik | yeah Kirkburn |
| 13:32.50 | alcaras | if i get exalted while doing so |
| 13:32.51 | sbu | *screenshot* |
| 13:32.52 | alcaras | so be it |
| 13:32.55 | Fisker- | i'm grinding reputation 24/7 for silvermoon exalted |
| 13:32.56 | Daemona | alcaras dont try to educate me please, i spent far too much time in the beta |
| 13:33.06 | Kirkburn | sbu, not heard of that before |
| 13:33.41 | alcaras | Daemona: i'm not trying to educate you, just commenting that the rep grinds aren't as bad as they used to be |
| 13:33.42 | alcaras | i'm not saying they're not still grinds |
| 13:33.42 | Fisker- | I don't even play the beta anymore :( |
| 13:33.42 | Fisker- | Noone needs me for instances anyways |
| 13:33.45 | Daemona | nonetheless they still are bad if you cant do the associated instances to make it in a reasonable timeframe |
| 13:33.53 | alcaras | why would not be able to do the instances? |
| 13:34.02 | Daemona | class: rogue |
| 13:34.05 | alcaras | steamvaults is ~1 hr run |
| 13:34.16 | alcaras | rogues can't do instances? |
| 13:34.17 | Daemona | preferable replaced by class: warrior / mage / hunter |
| 13:34.24 | [Cu]Werik | you know you can always start forming a group |
| 13:34.24 | Daemona | due to utility reasons |
| 13:34.30 | Fisker- | The last time i was in an instance it disbanded cause they couldn't use me :/ |
| 13:34.30 | alcaras | i've done steamvaults as dps warrior |
| 13:34.32 | [Cu]Werik | instead of looking for one:) |
| 13:34.32 | Kirkburn | Really? I have nothing against rogues |
| 13:34.43 | alcaras | and i think dps warrior is harder to get a group as than rogue :p |
| 13:34.46 | hugo | hi |
| 13:34.48 | Fisker- | why take a rogue when a mage is better? |
| 13:34.55 | Daemona | you will laugh, i once made a grp, said i needed to afk a mom, they left, grabbed a mage and started without me NO LIE |
| 13:35.07 | alcaras | druids want to tank on beta |
| 13:35.09 | alcaras | so do paladins |
| 13:35.12 | alcaras | i'm like uh ok i'll dps |
| 13:35.23 | Kirkburn | Well, what role do you want rogues to be then? |
| 13:35.25 | [Cu]Werik | I'm a paladin but I dont want to tank:P |
| 13:35.31 | Fisker- | DPS |
| 13:35.35 | Fisker- | but not replaceable DPS |
| 13:35.37 | Fisker- | as it is now |
| 13:35.38 | [Cu]Werik | Wouldnt touch tanking spec with a stick |
| 13:35.38 | alcaras | esp. since tanking as a warrior sucks without points in defiance |
| 13:35.48 | sbu | Kirkburn: uhm - heard of what? arkinv.? |
| 13:35.48 | Fisker- | or atleast the same amount of utility has other classes bring |
| 13:35.53 | Kirkburn | sbu, yeah |
| 13:35.58 | alcaras | rogues are awesome, if well played |
| 13:35.58 | sbu | Kirkburn: svn commit was ~1h ago ;p |
| 13:35.58 | Fisker- | perhaps stealth in combat and resapping and such |
| 13:36.01 | Daemona | the problem is |
| 13:36.04 | alcaras | bad rogues give rogues a bad name |
| 13:36.09 | sbu | (init import) |
| 13:36.16 | Kirkburn | Oh yes |
| 13:36.16 | alcaras | people should learn to stop judging a class by 95% of its players |
| 13:36.19 | Kirkburn | Screenshot dammit |
| 13:36.19 | Daemona | they cant give us self-buffs or group buffs, we would be oh so overpowered in pvp |
| 13:36.34 | [Cu]Werik | you wouldnt be a rogue then |
| 13:36.36 | Fisker- | It isn't about judging the class |
| 13:36.37 | [Cu]Werik | simple as that |
| 13:36.41 | Fisker- | It's about the class being useless |
| 13:36.49 | Fisker- | You can seriously bring a mage instead of a rogue |
| 13:36.51 | Daemona | Fisker- not useless |
| 13:36.52 | alcaras | what are the "pure" dps classes? rogue, warlock, mage, hunter |
| 13:36.53 | sbu | Kirkburn: 1-2min |
| 13:36.53 | Daemona | replaceable |
| 13:36.54 | renchap | 95 of warlocks are overpowered |
| 13:36.57 | renchap | but dont nerf warlocks |
| 13:37.00 | Fisker- | yeah Daemona :) |
| 13:37.03 | renchap | 95% |
| 13:37.03 | Kirkburn | It's not as if warlocks have group buffs either |
| 13:37.07 | Fisker- | and you will have added CC, Buffing, Water/food |
| 13:37.09 | Daemona | warlock mage and hunter have utility |
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| 13:37.16 | nuOHEP | Kirkburn, coe |
| 13:37.16 | Daemona | warlock can banish / seduce |
| 13:37.19 | alcaras | mage cc > rogue cc, warlock cc, utility (hs, ss) > rogue cc, uility... hunter has a pet, rogue doesn't |
| 13:37.33 | Kirkburn | Curse of the elements? |
| 13:37.36 | alcaras | shrug, rogues still can do cool things |
| 13:37.37 | nuOHEP | yeah |
| 13:37.39 | DrZoot | blood pact? |
| 13:37.43 | Kirkburn | That's not a group buff |
| 13:37.44 | Daemona | mage can sheep, provides int buff and dps superior to rogues cause its RANGED |
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| 13:37.53 | Locorl | are you really saying that a hunter pet can tank? |
| 13:37.54 | alcaras | rogues generally outdps mages |
| 13:37.58 | Fisker- | Locorl yeah |
| 13:38.00 | Fisker- | you want to see? |
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| 13:38.12 | Dranor | no i did |
| 13:38.15 | Kirkburn | nuOHEP, I know what you mean by it, but it's not a *real* one :P |
| 13:38.25 | Dranor | but you must bm specced with intimidation |
| 13:38.25 | alcaras | i bring a rogue for dps |
| 13:38.29 | nuOHEP | that a dps buff... and rogues have none. every ability we have increases only our own dps |
| 13:38.33 | Kirkburn | (hmm, I should probably use it one day, CoE) |
| 13:38.33 | [Cu]Werik | it doesnt matter Fisker-, one month after the release of TBC, the nerfbat will hit everyone in the face |
| 13:38.48 | Fisker- | including us |
| 13:38.48 | alcaras | i am actually pondering whether or not reroll as warrior (again) or rogue |
| 13:38.52 | alcaras | i'm interested in pvp primarily |
| 13:38.52 | Dranor | and not all the mobs can be "intimidated" |
| 13:38.54 | [Cu]Werik | They will change fundamental game rules twice a week |
| 13:38.56 | Fisker- | http://web.telia.com/~u96003206/tjoho/Anubpet.jpg |
| 13:38.59 | [Cu]Werik | with live maintenance |
| 13:39.02 | Daemona | alcaras Warlock |
| 13:39.05 | alcaras | and mortal strike warriors _seem_ to be fading out compared to say, wound poisons rogues |
| 13:39.06 | Kirkburn | Rogues can tank too =) |
| 13:39.07 | [Cu]Werik | resetting instances while you are in them |
| 13:39.10 | Kirkburn | Evasion tank, that is |
| 13:39.28 | Fisker- | Dodge rate has gone down a lot in TBC |
| 13:39.39 | Fisker- | when i evasion tank i still get hit once or twice usually |
| 13:40.03 | nuOHEP | dont worry t5 has dodge rating :D |
| 13:40.05 | Daemona | *laughs* i am down from 40+ dodge to like 25-27 dodge at 70 with karazhan gear :/ |
| 13:40.05 | Fisker- | But if it's nothing important then we can sustain a couple of hits |
| 13:40.07 | DarkImakuni | greetings earthlings |
| 13:40.19 | Kirkburn | DarkImakuni, hullo |
| 13:40.24 | Daemona | there is nothing like sustaining some hits |
| 13:40.28 | alcaras | for pvp: MS warrior or Rogue? |
| 13:40.34 | alcaras | (5v5 arena, specifically) |
| 13:40.39 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 13:40.39 | Daemona | trash will just cut through us with 4k auto-hits |
| 13:40.55 | alcaras | dps warriors have even LESS utility than rogues |
| 13:40.58 | alcaras | we can't cc... |
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| 13:41.13 | Grine | alcaras, you can buff, offtank |
| 13:41.17 | Fisker- | neither can we really |
| 13:41.24 | Dranor | drop melees, bring rangeds, a hunter > cloth in arena |
| 13:41.27 | Fisker- | cause ~all mobs have stealth detection |
| 13:41.28 | Grine | stunlock is ok, sap is situational |
| 13:41.35 | alcaras | for pvp, Grine? |
| 13:41.39 | Fisker- | yeah stunlock i agree |
| 13:41.43 | Dranor | specially if you have imp, barrage |
| 13:41.49 | Grine | thought we were still talking instances :P |
| 13:41.50 | alcaras | a well played rogue seems like he could do much more than a warrior in a 5v5 pvp situtation |
| 13:41.53 | Fisker- | WE're not talking pvp |
| 13:41.53 | Grine | sorray ;) |
| 13:41.54 | DarkImakuni | lol me thinks Kaelten is a Fire Emblem fan :) |
| 13:41.54 | Dranor | it's insane |
| 13:42.00 | Fisker- | so don't excuse pve problems with pvp |
| 13:42.02 | alcaras | Grine: np, i agree for instances |
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| 13:42.06 | alcaras | but i am trying to figure out what to reroll as |
| 13:42.08 | Daemona | gosh, dont talk hunter in pvp please, i am still in pain from twinking my shadow priest... those hunter with ZG trinket just kill me like.... instant? |
| 13:42.11 | alcaras | and i primarily play wow for pvp :) |
| 13:42.16 | kenlyric|work | reroll all of them. |
| 13:42.31 | Fisker- | roll anything else than warrior or rogue imo |
| 13:42.38 | Daemona | agreed |
| 13:42.42 | Dranor | you don't need that trinket anymore: readyness |
| 13:42.46 | alcaras | if warriors could be blood elves, i wouldn't have this problem :p |
| 13:42.50 | Grine | someone should add Ctrl-click->target into Prat :) |
| 13:43.03 | Daemona | well anyway |
| 13:43.06 | Daemona | enough rambling |
| 13:43.13 | alcaras | not even sure what race to make my warrior |
| 13:43.17 | alcaras | if i make a warrior |
| 13:43.19 | Daemona | i will gather up my stuff and drive home for christmas :) |
| 13:43.23 | Daemona | bye peeps |
| 13:43.33 | kenlyric|work | uh, tauren or human. :) |
| 13:43.35 | Dranor | but uh... you need to waste more thant 20 points to get something that's not worth it |
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| 13:43.36 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 13:43.36 | CIA-17 | - deleted directories for libraries from commit so i hope this finally works |
| 13:43.38 | Grine | as long as it's horde or gnome it's all good alcaras :P |
| 13:43.38 | DarkImakuni | bye Daemona. have fun |
| 13:43.41 | alcaras | kenlyric|home: as horde |
| 13:43.59 | kenlyric|work | which is why I said Tauren or Human, to cover both bases. |
| 13:44.17 | alcaras | grine: horde... tauren are too big for my tastes, female tauren too ugly, male orcs too broad, female orcs too ugly, undead males too gangly and female undead too falling-apart-ish |
| 13:44.19 | alcaras | :p |
| 13:44.25 | tyron | i need a barthender 3 professionel^^ |
| 13:44.27 | [Cu]Werik | I just cant take you rogues seriously tbh. I was starving for a miracle since like 2 years with my paladin, watching tv and spamming cleanse+flash heal every damn day. And now, you loose a little power and cry the heavens down |
| 13:44.29 | Stephmw | taurens make splendid targets |
| 13:44.30 | [Cu]Werik | It makes me smile |
| 13:44.38 | kenlyric|work | aclaras, sounds like you need to roll alliance. |
| 13:44.40 | Stephmw | .. or so says my tauren wife ;) she hates it |
| 13:44.41 | Grine | alcaras, well then it's hard ;) |
| 13:44.50 | Dranor | alcaras: be troll my friend :P |
| 13:44.56 | Grine | Orcs look mean, I like meanlooking warriors |
| 13:44.56 | kenlyric|work | you know, health regen during combat isn't such a bad racial for troll warriors. |
| 13:44.57 | alcaras | trolls have two toes. |
| 13:45.05 | alcaras | and i'm rolling for pvp |
| 13:45.07 | Fisker- | [Cu]Werik we've been "crying" from start |
| 13:45.09 | alcaras | so racials come into play |
| 13:45.16 | Fisker- | so it's not exactly a new thing |
| 13:45.28 | Fisker- | now we actually had a chance to affect things |
| 13:45.28 | alcaras | wotf vs. warstomp v. 15% stunresist |
| 13:45.31 | alcaras | is how i see it |
| 13:45.34 | sbu | Kirkburn? :o |
| 13:45.36 | Fisker- | but we found out that blizzard didn't care |
| 13:45.46 | Fisker- | and the only way to have a remote chance is by having US access to the beta |
| 13:45.51 | alcaras | i think i'll just decide jan 16 :p |
| 13:45.58 | alcaras | i wish blood elves could have been warriors tho :( |
| 13:46.05 | Necrathex | escape artist best racial |
| 13:46.11 | [Cu]Werik | its a shame belves cant be warriors |
| 13:46.18 | [Cu]Werik | 2h weapon animations are the best from all classes |
| 13:46.22 | alcaras | yup. |
| 13:46.25 | Fisker- | That and other people gaining even more power just makes our problems even bigger and more firm than they were |
| 13:46.34 | alcaras | leaning female undead right now for the backflip |
| 13:46.44 | alcaras | but not sure how i feel about the skanky warrior plate on a corpse |
| 13:46.45 | Dranor | just imagine a BE warrior |
| 13:46.51 | [Cu]Werik | bloodelf warlocks looks juicy too |
| 13:46.53 | Dranor | it's unballanced |
| 13:46.56 | Necrathex | roll BE rambodin? |
| 13:46.56 | kenlyric|work | belves can be warriors. They're called paladins. |
| 13:47.08 | Fisker- | Just to say that i'm glad that druids and paladins are finally getting better in feral and tanking but it still shouldn't be better than a warrior |
| 13:47.12 | krka | why would BE warrior be imba? |
| 13:47.29 | [Cu]Werik | I dont think retribution paladins are better than warriors |
| 13:47.29 | Necrathex | pally with prot/retri can be nice in melee i thitk |
| 13:47.34 | alcaras | draenei wouldn't have a class to compensate |
| 13:47.39 | Fisker- | probably because of arcane torrent krka |
| 13:47.40 | [Cu]Werik | but they are definately good |
| 13:47.46 | Stephmw | Fisker-: my druid friend feels a bit inadequate in pvp - any advice? she's mostly in blues, tier 0 and a few greens |
| 13:47.49 | Dranor | manatapx3 + arcane torrent |
| 13:47.49 | Fisker- | replenishing rage would probably be very useful in pvp |
| 13:47.52 | Dranor | boom |
| 13:47.52 | alcaras | neither warlock, rogue nor druid really fit draenei |
| 13:47.58 | krka | ah... it would generate rage instead |
| 13:48.03 | alcaras | Fisker-: if the racial was imba, they could nerf it for that class |
| 13:48.05 | Fisker- | not a druid Stephmw :P |
| 13:48.06 | Necrathex | Stephmw: druids are masters in pvp atm :o |
| 13:48.13 | krka | i was thinking it would only work for mana |
| 13:48.18 | krka | can BE be rogues? |
| 13:48.20 | Fisker- | yes |
| 13:48.21 | [Cu]Werik | yes |
| 13:48.22 | alcaras | yes krka |
| 13:48.26 | Fisker- | and it replenishes energy for them :) |
| 13:48.28 | krka | does it regenerate energy then? |
| 13:48.29 | krka | i see |
| 13:48.29 | Dranor | you got more rage than you could get with a simple charge |
| 13:48.30 | alcaras | complete with the energy restore |
| 13:48.30 | Stephmw | Necrathex: so all she needs is to learn a few new skills - but which ones? |
| 13:48.37 | Dranor | brb |
| 13:48.41 | alcaras | and you need to have charges to get energy back |
| 13:48.45 | alcaras | so it's not practical in arenas |
| 13:48.54 | Kirkburn | sbu, v cool |
| 13:48.56 | Fisker- | true |
| 13:48.58 | alcaras | unless you spend 90 seconds 'charging up' on enemies :p |
| 13:49.02 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 13:49.04 | kenlyric|work | hahaha, you're considering a warrior for arena pvp? |
| 13:49.06 | kenlyric|work | hahahaha. |
| 13:49.08 | Necrathex | Stephmw: i never played the druid class, but i know from feral/oomkin/healbot druids in my guild they got a big boost in pvp |
| 13:49.10 | Fisker- | perhaps you can do it in the preperation part |
| 13:49.11 | alcaras | yes, i'm considering warrior for 5v5 arena pvp |
| 13:49.18 | Necrathex | and i'm finding it hard (as rogue) to kill them |
| 13:49.22 | alcaras | i already wrote it off for 2v2 and 3v3 |
| 13:49.29 | sbu | Kirkburn: well - except for some annoying bugs :/ |
| 13:49.32 | alcaras | and have very little 5v5 experience |
| 13:49.35 | alcaras | since no one does 5v5s on beta |
| 13:49.36 | kenlyric|work | you will all die to the 5 warlock teams that all warlocks will join :) |
| 13:49.36 | Fisker- | rogue = faerie fire + entagle |
| 13:49.38 | Fisker- | = we lost |
| 13:49.39 | alcaras | i think i've done 15 in 3 months |
| 13:49.40 | sbu | you cant right-klick to equip |
| 13:49.48 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 13:49.54 | Necrathex | Fisker-: escape artist ^^ |
| 13:49.55 | Daemona | before i am outa here... BE female stealth animation > all |
| 13:49.55 | sbu | and if you want to drag something (if already sorted) - it picks up the original item |
| 13:49.57 | Fisker- | it's so retarded that druids can just FF us and entagle us and we're outta luck |
| 13:49.57 | Daemona | and bye :D |
| 13:50.01 | Fisker- | hehe not gnome Necrathex :( |
| 13:50.08 | sbu | instead of the one you just clicked on |
| 13:50.08 | Necrathex | Fisker-: improved sprint |
| 13:50.09 | kenlyric|work | meh, I think wowhead lied about my beta invite. |
| 13:50.16 | Kirkburn | sbu, yeah but when it's _not_ buggy ... :) |
| 13:50.17 | Fisker- | not an idiot Necrathex :P |
| 13:50.18 | sbu | so it doesnt re-calc the item-position yet :o |
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| 13:50.29 | Necrathex | Fisker-: i have fleet footed talent atm, it's great |
| 13:50.31 | sbu | Kirkburn: yah, then it would be _really_ nice :) |
| 13:50.32 | Fisker- | kenlyric|home blizzard are slow in adding people :P |
| 13:50.45 | Kirkburn | Every tuesday evening |
| 13:50.57 | Fisker- | ah |
| 13:50.58 | kenlyric|work | Fisker, or I just replied to the email too late. |
| 13:51.02 | Fisker- | didn't know there was a schedule :o |
| 13:51.13 | Kirkburn | Yeah, they send them all at once :) |
| 13:51.38 | kenlyric|work | it's not like it matters much, char transfer takes what, a month now? |
| 13:52.02 | [Cu]Werik | Yes, a month |
| 13:52.31 | kenlyric|work | I'll be really helpful and roll a new dwarf priest. |
| 13:52.33 | kebinusan | wow a new ptr up |
| 13:52.42 | kenlyric|work | since I'm fairly sure not a single one will ever be created again. |
| 13:52.52 | alcaras | draenei have fear ward |
| 13:53.00 | alcaras | blood elves have... yeah. nothing worth mentioning. |
| 13:53.05 | kenlyric|work | right, and a party mana regen racial. |
| 13:53.17 | alcaras | Dwarves are still better for pvp |
| 13:53.21 | alcaras | desparate prayer :) |
| 13:53.24 | kenlyric|work | so I guess selfish folks might pick dwarf for desperate prayer. |
| 13:53.24 | Necrathex | stoneform is imba |
| 13:53.36 | [Cu]Werik | belves have fashion:P |
| 13:53.37 | alcaras | botn gets +heal 100% |
| 13:53.54 | kebinusan | Alliance has weak racials |
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| 13:54.07 | kenlyric|work | hah, I have +10% spirit. |
| 13:54.19 | Necrathex | part of the lore tbh, horde has aggresive racials, alliance protective ones |
| 13:54.22 | kenlyric|work | IMBA! |
| 13:54.26 | [Cu]Werik | Humans have good racials |
| 13:54.33 | kebinusan | not really |
| 13:54.41 | Necrathex | +reputation gain ftw? ;) |
| 13:54.44 | alcaras | 10% winning the game -- i mean rep gain |
| 13:54.48 | kebinusan | diplomacy is weak |
| 13:54.50 | kenlyric|work | if I had wanted to wait, I would have picked draenei. But human is pretty good too. |
| 13:54.58 | kebinusan | perception is somewhat lackluster and no real pve usefulness |
| 13:54.59 | alcaras | my war is human, but that's b/c escape artist sucked once |
| 13:54.59 | [Cu]Werik | diplomacy is very good |
| 13:55.04 | Necrathex | diplomacy is gonna be so nerfed in xp, you'll be exalted with every faction soon |
| 13:55.09 | alcaras | now i would be gnome in a heartbeat, insta escape artist is good |
| 13:55.16 | kebinusan | alcaras: its the only racial that becomes useless once you get exalted |
| 13:55.28 | alcaras | kebinusan: i enjoyed it |
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| 13:55.40 | alcaras | let me get exalted with all 3 bgs that much faster |
| 13:55.43 | kenlyric|work | yeah, because once you get exalted they will never add another faction.... |
| 13:55.47 | alcaras | then be amazed that blizzard didn't add ... |
| 13:56.01 | kenlyric|work | and still, 10% spirit > * |
| 13:56.09 | kebinusan | not for warlocks |
| 13:56.11 | sbu | hm Kirkburn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6488-ArkInventory.html |
| 13:56.12 | Necrathex | how about 10% int? |
| 13:56.14 | kenlyric|work | true. |
| 13:56.20 | Necrathex | int > spi |
| 13:56.24 | kebinusan | + weapon skill sucks |
| 13:56.25 | alcaras | purely for 5v5 arena pvp: wotf/cannibalize v. hardiness/bloodfury v. warstomp/endurance? |
| 13:56.30 | kenlyric|work | int... is that some sort of stat? |
| 13:56.34 | kebinusan | diplomacy is lackluster |
| 13:56.55 | Fisker- | i like diplomacy |
| 13:57.01 | krka | int > float |
| 13:57.03 | Fisker- | i'd trade it for will of the forsaken |
| 13:57.04 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 13:57.14 | Kirkburn | Diplomacy is good for SOME people, I think we can all agree |
| 13:57.38 | kebinusan | Diplomacy becomes ineffective as soon as you hit exalted with whatever rep |
| 13:57.39 | kenlyric|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.59 | kenlyric|work | kebinusan: it only becomes ineffective when you hit exalted with all the reps. |
| 13:58.04 | Kirkburn | kebinusan, indeed. But exalted isn't a state most people are in |
| 13:58.13 | alcaras | at least you have desparate prayer |
| 13:58.23 | kebinusan | except that rep gains are a hell of alot easier in TBC |
| 13:58.34 | Fisker- | only makes diplomacy better imo |
| 13:58.39 | [Cu]Werik | diplomacy can yield gazillion of money if you are the first one on the server you can make xy enchantment or item |
| 13:58.41 | kenlyric|work | alacaras. yeah, It's nice. I didn't choose human because if it, but it's nice to have a free extra potion timer. |
| 13:58.49 | kebinusan | makes it worse |
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| 13:59.04 | Fisker- | gazillions of money = win |
| 13:59.10 | kenlyric|work | if you're someone who likes grinding for rep, you might not see diplomacy as a bonus. |
| 13:59.11 | Kirkburn | The rep gains are easier, but not simple |
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| 13:59.38 | kenlyric|work | I'm fairly sure you won't be able to hit exalted with anyone just doing quests. |
| 13:59.43 | kebinusan | honestly I think the one thing blizzard should have done in TBC is give all classes racial specific spells |
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| 14:00.00 | kenlyric|work | kebinusan: yeah, because the priests don't complain about it enough. |
| 14:00.08 | kenlyric|work | we really need all classes to join in :) |
| 14:00.13 | Kirkburn | It'd be cool, but _extremely_ hard to implement and keep balanced |
| 14:00.14 | kebinusan | priests complain about everything |
| 14:00.22 | TheKarn | kebinusan, try rolling one ... |
| 14:00.37 | yacoob | just make gnome priests |
| 14:00.38 | TheKarn | morning all btw |
| 14:00.38 | kebinusan | yeah you can tell blizzard care about balance when they give alliance another fear ward |
| 14:00.44 | yacoob | and sit back, watch the mayhem |
| 14:00.58 | kebinusan | TheKarn: Yeah standard response I get from priests |
| 14:01.06 | yacoob | kebinusan, what gave you this crazy idea blizzard does anything to keep the balance? :D |
| 14:01.08 | kebinusan | doesnt fly |
| 14:01.11 | kenlyric|work | second alliance race with fear ward + TBC fights which use fear mechanic = blizzard hates the horde. |
| 14:01.37 | kebinusan | horde have better overall racials |
| 14:01.41 | TheKarn | kebinusan, you can tell they care about balance when they give priests one CC ability that all classes can dispell but give every other class 2 or 3 CC abilities |
| 14:01.43 | Fisker- | they actually said they were going to put in racials for all at some point |
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| 14:02.07 | kenlyric|work | not all classes can dispel mind control :) |
| 14:02.15 | yacoob | *whine*whine*whine* |
| 14:02.23 | TheKarn | mindcontrol is NOT a CC |
| 14:02.26 | TheKarn | its a toy |
| 14:02.36 | TheKarn | if i wanted to escape from combat i cant MC and run away |
| 14:02.42 | Kirkburn | Can I ask one thing - can people realise that you are stating OPINIONS not facts. |
| 14:02.44 | Fisker- | no but you can run him away |
| 14:02.46 | yacoob | mind stupor would be better |
| 14:02.49 | TheKarn | kirk that is a fact |
| 14:02.50 | Fisker- | and then you can run away yourself |
| 14:02.50 | kenlyric|work | I do it all the time. |
| 14:02.57 | kenlyric|work | exactly Fisker. Run him away from me :) |
| 14:02.58 | yacoob | aoe blast attack, foes stand around and drool, while priest runs away |
| 14:03.02 | kenlyric|work | or off a cliff. |
| 14:03.07 | kebinusan | TheKarn: huh? |
| 14:03.10 | Kirkburn | Argh, I'm talking generally |
| 14:03.20 | yacoob | kenlyric|work, you need a cliff in your backpack :) |
| 14:03.32 | TheKarn | lol yacoob |
| 14:03.39 | Werik|ZZz | yeah, pocket cliff |
| 14:03.48 | yacoob | I'd settle for acme portable hole |
| 14:03.49 | Kirkburn | Just saying "Horde racials are better" does not make it true. You may prefer them, but that's down to your play style not any deeper 'truth' |
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| 14:04.10 | TheKarn | [Pocket Cliff] Use: Sings "Candle in the Wind" |
| 14:04.12 | kebinusan | Um WOTF is 100x better than perception |
| 14:04.22 | yacoob | TheKarn, :DDDD |
| 14:04.24 | Kirkburn | And who exactly said the two should be compared directly? |
| 14:04.34 | Fisker- | it dpeends on your perception kebinusan |
| 14:04.36 | Fisker- | (HOHO) |
| 14:04.43 | Fisker- | <-funny guy |
| 14:04.48 | Kirkburn | For PvE people like me I don't care at all about WOTF |
| 14:04.50 | kebinusan | What even comes close to 25% stun resist |
| 14:04.53 | kebinusan | and Blood Frenzy |
| 14:04.59 | kenlyric|work | you'll find that very rarely consider PVP at all when considering classes :) |
| 14:05.05 | Fisker- | it's not 25% anymore kebinusan |
| 14:05.07 | Necrathex | stun resist gets nerfed anyway |
| 14:05.18 | Silv | Can anyone point me in the right direction where I can find some examples and documentation on safe hooking coding practices? |
| 14:05.20 | TheKarn | Kirkburn, the only time i've used WOTF in PvE is on Nef fight when i was too close to nef and got feared |
| 14:05.39 | Kirkburn | TheKarn, you newb ;) |
| 14:05.41 | Fisker- | i use it on kri |
| 14:05.43 | Kirkburn | What class? |
| 14:05.46 | Fisker- | aka yauj |
| 14:05.57 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, that's true, didn't think of that |
| 14:05.57 | TheKarn | priest ofc |
| 14:06.03 | Kirkburn | Uh yeah |
| 14:06.12 | Necrathex | bug family is horde easy mode |
| 14:06.14 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, although you can only use it once of course |
| 14:06.16 | Fisker- | not really |
| 14:06.18 | kenlyric|work | TheKarn: you don't mean you get to close. You mean the tank brings him too close to you :) |
| 14:06.21 | Kirkburn | TheKarn, what was a rpiest doing so close to Nef? |
| 14:06.22 | Fisker- | just keep Kri out of range |
| 14:06.27 | TheKarn | the nub MT was standing in the wrong place ... couldnt reach without going closer to nef |
| 14:06.37 | TheKarn | yeah kenlyric|home, basically |
| 14:06.42 | Kirkburn | ouch |
| 14:06.54 | yacoob | Kirkburn, answer for 'what was a priest doing so close to Nef' is 'crazy dps' :) |
| 14:07.10 | kebinusan | Devouring plague >> feedback or starshards |
| 14:07.14 | kenlyric|work | best part of every nef fight is when you have to run through nef to the other side because there is no more balcony left. |
| 14:07.17 | Kirkburn | yacoob, lol |
| 14:07.29 | Kirkburn | I've not done a raid past UBRS myself |
| 14:07.41 | kebinusan | I actually prefer nef w/o fear ward |
| 14:07.47 | kenlyric|work | if you've ever been kicked in shadowform, you know the beauty of starshards. |
| 14:07.49 | kebinusan | Its way too borning whwen we have a dworf in the raid |
| 14:07.50 | yacoob | kebinusan, starshards is so completely useless noone would think bringing this up |
| 14:08.04 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 14:08.05 | Fisker- | it's good |
| 14:08.15 | yacoob | where? :> |
| 14:08.24 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 14:08.36 | yacoob | ...exactly :P |
| 14:08.38 | kenlyric|work | starshards is great for people running away. Building up the damage means the last bit hits them unexpectdly. |
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| 14:09.17 | yacoob | surely I don't see any people running *away* from priest |
| 14:09.21 | yacoob | it's the other way |
| 14:09.26 | yacoob | "look! free honour!" |
| 14:09.28 | TheKarn | yacoob, :) |
| 14:09.35 | kebinusan | unless you're feared |
| 14:09.46 | TheKarn | and with benediction on their back it's "woo look! free honor is blowing bubbles again!" |
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| 14:09.48 | kenlyric|work | I am not free honor. |
| 14:09.49 | yacoob | ...fear breaks, they boomerang back to you |
| 14:09.55 | kenlyric|work | I am bait. |
| 14:10.15 | yacoob | well, perhaps something changed, but when I was playing my ne priest at 1.11, it was more or less like that. Teamwork or die. |
| 14:10.16 | TheKarn | i'm gunna transfer to another realm just to change my name |
| 14:10.21 | TheKarn | it may take 3 months to get back |
| 14:10.25 | kenlyric|work | I'm what you try to kill while my friends kill you :) |
| 14:10.25 | yacoob | Or shadowform, kill one, get stomped by second. |
| 14:10.28 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 14:10.29 | TheKarn | but i think a priest called "FreeHonor" would be pro |
| 14:10.34 | kebinusan | Im too tired to continue this class balance discussion |
| 14:10.35 | Fisker- | spread the word about buffing rogues |
| 14:10.37 | Fisker- | we need it |
| 14:11.07 | yacoob | I'll read all wowwiki! |
| 14:11.08 | kebinusan | nah |
| 14:11.10 | kebinusan | you're fine |
| 14:11.11 | kenlyric|work | I would never actually pick night elf again (which is why I didn't) but the racials weren't useless. |
| 14:11.20 | kenlyric|work | 10% spirit > * |
| 14:11.23 | Necrathex | Fisker-: agree |
| 14:11.24 | Fisker- | lol |
| 14:11.35 | Fisker- | 3 winter gnomes with OEB running around |
| 14:11.40 | Necrathex | nightelves suck |
| 14:11.45 | Necrathex | and they are gay |
| 14:11.45 | TheKarn | i wonder if wow performs any better with my 7950GT now |
| 14:11.54 | kenlyric|work | shadowmeld was such an awesome utility levelling up. |
| 14:12.03 | Codayus | What's a vaguely amusing name for an addon that sticks DKP prices into tooltips? :-/ |
| 14:12.07 | kenlyric|work | I come back afk and am dead nearly every time now. |
| 14:12.09 | Necrathex | shadowmeld is nice in AB |
| 14:12.23 | TheKarn | Codayus, StickDKPToYaTooltips |
| 14:12.25 | kenlyric|work | I actually prefer not to be melded in AB guarding a node. |
| 14:12.31 | kenlyric|work | *preferred. |
| 14:12.32 | Codayus | Okay, that may be TOO vague. |
| 14:12.33 | Codayus | :-) |
| 14:12.37 | Necrathex | when you're a hunter you do |
| 14:12.41 | Necrathex | hunter pwns all |
| 14:12.46 | kenlyric|work | they saw squishy priest, didn't think about the other stealthed people around me. |
| 14:12.49 | Fisker- | how the hell are chinese keke farmers spamming other zones? |
| 14:13.05 | kenlyric|work | Magic. |
| 14:13.07 | Fisker- | mega annoying |
| 14:13.09 | Necrathex | Fisker-: they have a deal with blizz and get GM clients |
| 14:13.19 | Fisker- | awesome! |
| 14:13.24 | Necrathex | :p |
| 14:13.30 | yacoob | nah, it is possible to send message across |
| 14:13.34 | Necrathex | why you think they aren't removed? |
| 14:13.35 | yacoob | just can't remember how ;)) |
| 14:13.51 | Necrathex | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:13.55 | kenlyric|work | it used to be easily possible, just join the channel. |
| 14:14.00 | kenlyric|work | but you can't do that anymore. |
| 14:14.40 | Kirkburn | yacoob, ? |
| 14:14.43 | Necrathex | wow is a lifestyle man, no need to actually play it |
| 14:15.13 | yacoob | Kirkburn, in all discussions referring to the current state of the game/api I'm lagging behind :D |
| 14:15.18 | Codayus | A state of mind... |
| 14:15.32 | Kirkburn | Quitter and newb, that's what you are |
| 14:16.43 | Fisker- | i love quitters and newbs |
| 14:16.47 | Fisker- | thats our avs |
| 14:16.52 | Fisker- | gives me lot of silvermoon rep |
| 14:17.01 | Fisker- | noone turns in shit |
| 14:17.11 | Fisker- | i just loot every corpse and go back and cash in 1000 rep |
| 14:17.18 | Necrathex | what do you turn in for rep? :s |
| 14:17.25 | Necrathex | i only get IF rep |
| 14:17.27 | Fisker- | everything |
| 14:17.34 | Fisker- | you need to be exalted i think |
| 14:17.44 | Necrathex | exalted with IF/Org? |
| 14:17.55 | Necrathex | i'm exalted with av |
| 14:18.05 | Fisker- | with if/org yeah |
| 14:18.13 | Necrathex | meh |
| 14:18.24 | Necrathex | wish i had diplomacy >< |
| 14:18.54 | Fisker- | same |
| 14:18.54 | yacoob | Kirkburn, just bored with the game :) |
| 14:19.53 | CIA-17 | 03arkayenro * r21794 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.txt ArkInventory.xml): |
| 14:19.53 | CIA-17 | ArkInventory: |
| 14:19.53 | CIA-17 | - bug fix: corrected logic in xml file so that edit/offline mode now works properly |
| 14:20.04 | Fisker- | oh and btw i'm grinding rep |
| 14:20.04 | kenlyric|work | man, chronometer is nice. |
| 14:21.41 | boone | hmm, how do i get bartender3 to actually unlock my bag bar so i can switch bags, they refuse to be moved |
| 14:21.42 | Fisker- | 3400 rep now |
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| 14:21.58 | boone | button lock is off, won't budge |
| 14:22.00 | kebinusan | Its like what? 48000 rep from neutral to exalted? That means that diplomacy saves you like 4800 rep... thats really not alot |
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| 14:22.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Suntiger] by ChanServ |
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| 14:22.17 | Fisker- | in av turnins it is |
| 14:22.21 | Fisker- | that's like 10 av's |
| 14:22.35 | TheKarn | is skinner broken? |
| 14:22.41 | kenlyric|work | or 2000 furbolgs |
| 14:23.27 | Tornhoof | it's not a lot if you get 1k rep per mob, it's alot if you get 5rep per mob ;) |
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| 14:24.19 | kenlyric|work | i wonder if anyone ever hit exalted with wildhammer clan. |
| 14:24.27 | alcaras | yes, people have |
| 14:24.35 | kebinusan | probably |
| 14:24.38 | alcaras | there are crazy people out there exalted with steamwheedle _and_ bloodsail |
| 14:24.40 | kebinusan | people hit exalted with shen'dralar |
| 14:24.41 | kenlyric|work | that's sick. |
| 14:24.53 | kebinusan | but wildhammer faction was removed in the last beta push |
| 14:25.10 | kenlyric|work | oh, good thing I didn't grind to honored on this toon then. |
| 14:25.24 | kenlyric|work | that was such a nightmare the last time around. |
| 14:25.31 | Necrathex | alcaras: how is that possible? |
| 14:25.58 | Necrathex | bloodsail and steamwheedle are exclusive :/ |
| 14:25.59 | alcaras | Necrathex: it's possible to get steamwheedle rep without losing bloodsail |
| 14:26.28 | Necrathex | hm |
| 14:26.30 | kebinusan | Theres a bug / feature that if someone kills something while you're in a group with them you get the rep gain but not the rep loss |
| 14:26.38 | kebinusan | something like that I forget the details |
| 14:26.47 | kenlyric|work | I see the exact opposite happen. |
| 14:26.53 | kenlyric|work | well, when I'm not grouped. |
| 14:27.04 | Necrathex | guildie of me killed the CH flightmaster once |
| 14:27.09 | Necrathex | -12000 rep or something |
| 14:27.16 | kenlyric|work | I throw a renew on someone fighting bloodsail, and I'll get the negative rep but not the positive. |
| 14:27.47 | boone | Necrathex, no christmasgift for him i presume |
| 14:28.08 | kenlyric|work | it was fun on the ptr when the npcs in CH would hit you even if you were attacking them. |
| 14:28.12 | kenlyric|work | free weapon skill training :) |
| 14:28.36 | Fisker- | wouldn't? |
| 14:29.36 | kenlyric|work | uh, yeah, wouldn't. |
| 14:31.41 | Fisker- | lol |
| 14:31.54 | Fisker- | a druid ambushed me after i took a paladin |
| 14:32.02 | Fisker- | "evasion tanking, lol" |
| 14:32.17 | Fisker- | *druid runs off when almost killed" |
| 14:32.27 | Fisker- | but he didn't heal |
| 14:32.29 | Fisker- | so shoot bow :D |
| 14:32.37 | kenlyric|work | it'd be hard for a druid to evasion tank without... er... evasion. |
| 14:32.54 | Fisker- | it was me who used evasion |
| 14:33.02 | Fisker- | cause then he couldn't hit shit :P |
| 14:33.03 | nuOHEP | im really looking forward to deadly throw |
| 14:33.24 | alcaras | rogues get lots of love in the xpac |
| 14:33.35 | alcaras | cloak of casterkill -- err shadows |
| 14:33.37 | Fisker- | hohohoho |
| 14:33.38 | nuOHEP | not lots, some |
| 14:33.55 | alcaras | and all cooldowns reset when you zone into an arena |
| 14:33.56 | Fisker- | cloak of shadows is the only good thing imo |
| 14:34.01 | alcaras | which means... hi2u prep rogue |
| 14:34.04 | Fisker- | everyone gets that anyways? |
| 14:34.21 | Fisker- | and they removed the only useful skills from prep because of it |
| 14:34.27 | Ordog | shaman > all |
| 14:34.32 | alcaras | Q: how to factor resilience in for pvp gear? how to value it? |
| 14:34.33 | Ordog | :> |
| 14:35.06 | nuOHEP | http://www.wowwiki.com/Resilience |
| 14:35.29 | alcaras | mm, ni know what it does |
| 14:35.33 | alcaras | i want to know how to value it relative to stamina |
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| 14:35.55 | alcaras | it's hard :-/ it reduces my chance to be crit, which is both good and bad |
| 14:36.07 | alcaras | since if chance to be crit gets reduced too far... then no more enrage procs |
| 14:36.26 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21795 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 14:36.26 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:36.26 | CIA-17 | - Update koKR |
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| 14:36.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 14:37.06 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21796 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 14:37.06 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:37.06 | CIA-17 | - Update koKR |
| 14:37.07 | CIA-17 | 03codayus * r21797 10PriceTag/ (6 files): |
| 14:37.07 | CIA-17 | PriceTag: initial commit |
| 14:37.09 | CIA-17 | - Uses a perl script to scrape prices from eqDKP |
| 14:37.11 | CIA-17 | - Then displays them on a variety of tooltips. |
| 14:37.13 | CIA-17 | - Probably not working yet. |
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| 14:44.30 | kenlyric|work | meh, i dislike buttons that say "Okay" |
| 14:44.51 | alcaras | what's the resilience item budget value? |
| 14:46.12 | alcaras | ah, all combat ratings are apparently one |
| 14:46.20 | Tem | 1x[asston] |
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| 14:47.38 | yacoob | kenlyric|work, would you like a little bit unsure button labeled 'Okay...?' |
| 14:47.48 | alcaras | hmm, stamina seems like it's better than resilience |
| 14:48.01 | kenlyric|work | No, i'd rather it actually use a real word, like OK. |
| 14:48.38 | alcaras | [Maybe] [Maybe Not] |
| 14:48.51 | alcaras | [Maybe] [Maybe Not] [I Don't Know] [You Tell Me] |
| 14:48.59 | alcaras | fun with interfaces |
| 14:49.08 | yacoob | [Ook.] [Ook?] [OOK!] |
| 14:49.21 | yacoob | (ui for Librarian :) |
| 14:49.27 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 14:49.31 | alcaras | interesting, resilience has a _weird_ curve |
| 14:50.13 | TheKarn | yacoob you seen The Hogfather? |
| 14:50.19 | Kirkburn | kenlyric|work, you're saying "Okay" isn't a word? |
| 14:50.36 | Kirkburn | Mind explaining me how OK is a word then? |
| 14:50.39 | Soulless | http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twindragonhudsn1.jpg |
| 14:50.57 | Soulless | ....and you guys said my layout was clutered/gross |
| 14:51.13 | Kirkburn | What's yours? |
| 14:51.20 | yacoob | TheKarn, not yet. |
| 14:51.30 | yacoob | but it's in my schedule |
| 14:52.04 | Soulless | http://www.fridgid.com/patch/error001.jpg |
| 14:52.04 | Soulless | thats decently close |
| 14:52.04 | alcaras | Soulless what's the WarsongGulch window? |
| 14:52.04 | Soulless | a bits changed since that, but i don;t have any SSes of it uploaded |
| 14:52.10 | Soulless | rdx |
| 14:52.27 | CIA-17 | 03codayus * r21798 10PriceTag/ (. PriceTag.toc): |
| 14:52.27 | CIA-17 | PriceTag: |
| 14:52.27 | CIA-17 | - Attempted to set externals |
| 14:52.27 | CIA-17 | - Added X-Embeds and X-Credits to the TOC |
| 14:52.27 | aE|neXter | alcaras: you have a graphic of the curve somewhere? |
| 14:52.35 | DrZoot | I think the dragon hud layout was designed more around "Oooohh look pretty stuff" rather than any sort of interface utility value |
| 14:52.45 | Soulless | yeah |
| 14:52.45 | alcaras | aE|neXter: working on it, depends on two assumptions: incoming enemy crit chance + crit multipler |
| 14:52.57 | Soulless | huds CAN be good (thought mostly just crap) but that shit .... lol |
| 14:52.57 | yacoob | TheKarn, is it any good, btw? |
| 14:53.02 | alcaras | where can i download rdx? |
| 14:53.09 | TheKarn | http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/thekarn/WoWScrnShot_121206_014104.jpg |
| 14:53.12 | aE|neXter | alcaras: ah, k. would be nice if you could post it when you're done |
| 14:53.16 | TheKarn | yacoob i'm in the same state as you |
| 14:53.20 | yacoob | ah :) |
| 14:53.27 | TheKarn | i have it sitting ready to play but havent got round to it |
| 14:53.28 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r21799 10PriceTag/getPrices.pl: |
| 14:53.28 | CIA-17 | PriceTag: |
| 14:53.28 | CIA-17 | - Cleaned up perl script a bit. |
| 14:53.37 | alcaras | aE|neXter: it's worse than stamina if you don't have much of it, but better than stamina if you have lots of it, which is a bit strange |
| 14:53.57 | alcaras | but yeah |
| 14:54.00 | alcaras | working on a curve now |
| 14:54.07 | TheKarn | how are we meant to run this perl script when most people dont ahve perl installed? |
| 14:54.09 | boone | hey phyber, gotten any closer to solving that hunter auto shoot issue with topscore? |
| 14:54.16 | Kirkburn | TheKarn, which bag mod is that? |
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| 14:54.19 | phyber | boone: haven't looked. |
| 14:54.24 | alcaras | what are decent assumptions for incoming crit rate and incoming crit multipler? |
| 14:54.29 | alcaras | turns out how hard the crits are don't matter |
| 14:54.29 | krka | perl comes installed by default on most distros |
| 14:54.55 | TheKarn | onebag |
| 14:55.00 | TheKarn | krka most people run windows |
| 14:55.02 | DrZoot | ActiveState do a good windows perl dist |
| 14:55.09 | CIA-17 | 03codayus * r21800 10PriceTag/: |
| 14:55.09 | CIA-17 | PriceTag: |
| 14:55.09 | CIA-17 | - Fixed typo in externals :-( |
| 14:55.16 | krka | most people are r-tards |
| 14:55.16 | alcaras | i'll assume '2.0' for a crit multipler, melee starts at that and most casters are 1.5 (mod to 2.0 with talents, but not for everything) |
| 14:55.16 | aE|neXter | alcaras: depends on the gear level of your opponents.... |
| 14:55.24 | aE|neXter | alcaras: i'd be working with 25% or something like that |
| 14:55.31 | yacoob | great attitude, krka |
| 14:55.34 | yacoob | :/ |
| 14:55.38 | alcaras | aE|neXter: k |
| 14:56.19 | phyber | TheKarn: if they really want to use it, they'll install ActivePerl or something ;) |
| 14:56.48 | CIA-17 | 03codayus * r21801 10PriceTag/: |
| 14:56.48 | CIA-17 | PriceTag: |
| 14:56.48 | CIA-17 | - Fixed the OTHER typo in the externals. |
| 14:57.07 | aE|neXter | alcaras: 25%-30% is the crit rate of a t1 rogue, but i really don't have any idea of the crit rates of mages, 'lock, etc. |
| 14:57.09 | Codayus | Why can't computers just read my mind? :-( |
| 14:57.30 | cncfanatics | aE|neXter, depends on spec |
| 14:57.40 | cncfanatics | firemages got much more crit then frostmages for example |
| 14:57.44 | cncfanatics | cuz fire is a crit spec |
| 14:58.05 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21802 10/PallyPower/ (24 files in 4 dirs): |
| 14:58.05 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: Initial commit |
| 14:58.05 | CIA-17 | - Adds a interface with which you can configure what buffs paladins in your raid are casting on which classes, and gives the paladin a quick view of time remaining and how many players need each buff. |
| 14:58.16 | aE|neXter | ah, finally PP from SVN! |
| 14:58.50 | alcaras | err hrm, maybe not expoential scaling |
| 14:58.50 | aE|neXter | cncfanatics: can you give example numbers? t1 fire mage fire spell crit rate e.g.? |
| 14:58.56 | alcaras | need to double check something :p |
| 14:59.17 | cncfanatics | aE|neXter, 20ish max for t1, it barely has any crit |
| 14:59.21 | cncfanatics | same for t2 |
| 14:59.31 | phyber | whoever committed that, you failed. |
| 14:59.33 | cncfanatics | its nonset stuff that has lots of crit on it, not really tiers :/ |
| 15:00.10 | DrZoot | phyber: svn notes arent meant to be stories? :P |
| 15:00.12 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r21803 10/PallyPower/: |
| 15:00.13 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 15:00.13 | CIA-17 | - put it in trunk, not the svn root. |
| 15:00.36 | cncfanatics | roflmao |
| 15:00.57 | alcaras | aE|neXter: nvm, resilience is always strictly worse than stamina for increasing survivability |
| 15:01.10 | alcaras | it's about 4 health per item budget point, vs 15 health per item budget point for stamina |
| 15:01.17 | cncfanatics | something relying on chances always is and always will be except for very high amounts imo |
| 15:01.39 | cncfanatics | I can immagine that over 20% resilience wld be uber against rogues |
| 15:01.46 | aE|neXter | so we should see it as some kind of bonus, not something to max out |
| 15:01.51 | alcaras | pretty much |
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| 15:02.16 | Fisker- | i believe there's something about that if you decrease a persons crit beyond his actual crit he also loses hit |
| 15:02.25 | alcaras | you're not going to get that much resilience |
| 15:02.35 | alcaras | 400 resilience = 10% less crit |
| 15:02.43 | alcaras | and good luck getting 400 resilience with the way itemization is atm |
| 15:02.55 | Soulless | <alcaras> where can i download rdx? www.rdx-raid.com its not free thou, theres a derivitive work done by a guy named cidan from the same server as the original author who makes a free version http://rdx.emoemu.com/ |
| 15:02.57 | Fisker- | pvp gear got that much |
| 15:02.58 | alcaras | so yeah, resilience is a waste of item budget points |
| 15:03.04 | Fisker- | arena gear of course |
| 15:03.09 | alcaras | arena gear would be better to have just stamina |
| 15:03.32 | alcaras | except of course being the "hidden" benefit of crit-reactive abilities |
| 15:03.34 | Fisker- | you wouldn't get as much stamina |
| 15:03.34 | alcaras | e.g. reducing a chance for flurry |
| 15:03.38 | alcaras | true, b/c of the way item budgeting works |
| 15:06.00 | Soulless | ace needs a dick-in-a-box mod |
| 15:06.48 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21804 10/trunc/ (25 files in 5 dirs): |
| 15:06.48 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: Initial commit |
| 15:06.48 | CIA-17 | - Adds a interface with which you can configure what buffs paladins in your raid are casting on which classes, and gives the paladin a quick view of time remaining and how many players need each buff. |
| 15:07.06 | kenlyric|work | i guess I don't need hottimer if I have chronometer. |
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| 15:07.13 | Soulless | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-5grqhj1b8 |
| 15:07.51 | CIA-17 | 03necrathex * r21805 10RainbowEnchants/ (. RainbowEnchants.lua RainbowEnchants.toc): |
| 15:07.51 | CIA-17 | RainbowEnchants: Initial commit |
| 15:07.51 | CIA-17 | - Set custom colors for both permanent and temporary enchants in item tooltips |
| 15:10.24 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21806 10PallyPower/ (24 files in 4 dirs): |
| 15:10.24 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: Initial commit |
| 15:10.24 | CIA-17 | - Adds a interface with which you can configure what buffs paladins in your raid are casting on which classes, and gives the paladin a quick view of time remaining and how many players need each buff. |
| 15:11.56 | Saroz | YES BABY |
| 15:11.59 | Saroz | PALLYPOWER IN SVN |
| 15:12.01 | Saroz | for teh win |
| 15:14.13 | TheKarn | Soulless, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLb0w8-HG_0 |
| 15:14.24 | TheKarn | ah damn |
| 15:14.26 | TheKarn | it was removed |
| 15:15.43 | Fisker- | what was it? |
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| 15:17.51 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21807 10PallyPower/PallyPower.toc: |
| 15:17.51 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 15:17.51 | CIA-17 | - toc update |
| 15:19.36 | CIA-17 | 03necrathex * r21808 10RainbowEnchants/: |
| 15:19.36 | CIA-17 | RainbowEnchants: |
| 15:19.36 | CIA-17 | - updated externals |
| 15:19.56 | Necrathex | meh |
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| 15:21.58 | CIA-17 | 03necrathex * r21809 10RainbowEnchants/: |
| 15:21.58 | CIA-17 | RainbowEnchants: |
| 15:21.58 | CIA-17 | - externals typo <_> |
| 15:24.05 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21810 10/trunc/PallyPower/: |
| 15:24.05 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 15:24.05 | CIA-17 | - oops |
| 15:24.12 | Necrathex | rofl |
| 15:24.19 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21811 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.lua: XLootMaster: Fixed RW always getting announced to. |
| 15:24.21 | Necrathex | commit spammers ftw |
| 15:25.49 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 15:25.54 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r21812 10/trunc/: .This too. |
| 15:26.03 | Fisker- | trunc ftw |
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| 15:29.18 | Gorlum | Hello anyone. Please advice addon for automatic turnins? Automaton shows error... |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-17 | 03necrathex * r21813 10RainbowEnchants/: |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-17 | RainbowEnchants: |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-17 | - externals happy now? :) |
| 15:29.33 | Fisker- | autoturnin |
| 15:29.44 | aE|neXter | Capping for BG Turnins |
| 15:30.35 | TheKarn | how would i access FuBar_FactionsFu.factions from another addon? |
| 15:31.05 | Fisker- | i don't think you can't |
| 15:31.08 | Necrathex | http://fun.drno.de/pics/new-firefox-logo.jpg |
| 15:31.17 | Fisker- | unless it uses ace to enable it for you |
| 15:31.46 | Fisker- | deceptions Necrathex |
| 15:31.52 | Fisker- | that image is photoshopped |
| 15:32.34 | Necrathex | good logo nonetheless :P |
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| 15:34.14 | phyber | Gorlum: how about reporting the automaton error so that somebody can fix it so that it doesn't make an error? :p |
| 15:34.29 | phyber | original thinking, in the house! |
| 15:34.45 | TheKarn | ~emulate ckknight |
| 15:34.47 | purl | Get me a full debugstack, puny mortal. |
| 15:34.54 | TheKarn | perfect :) |
| 15:35.11 | TheKarn | ~thekarn |
| 15:35.13 | purl | THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN! |
| 15:35.13 | Fisker- | What bugsack produces is a "debugstack" right? |
| 15:35.22 | Fisker- | ~Fisker |
| 15:35.23 | purl | i guess fisker is hardware, software, all the same, I have no idea |
| 15:35.29 | Fisker- | ~emulate fisker |
| 15:35.30 | purl | less talking and more fisting please |
| 15:35.33 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 15:35.43 | TheKarn | ~literal emulate fisker |
| 15:35.45 | purl | "emulate fisker" is "<reply> less talking and more fisting please" |
| 15:36.37 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@72-17-187-154.ftl.fdn.com) |
| 15:36.44 | kenlyric | The Girl Scouts are the terrorist arm of the Freemasons. |
| 15:36.45 | mjc | http://www.cocotron.org/Tools/ |
| 15:39.16 | Necrathex | how often does wowace.com/files/ update? |
| 15:39.25 | Fisker- | when a commit is made |
| 15:39.31 | Fisker- | it will take a couple of minutes though |
| 15:39.37 | Necrathex | Last updated Fri Dec 22 14:28:38 2006 |
| 15:39.43 | mjc | 20 mins |
| 15:39.47 | mjc | they changed it |
| 15:39.57 | Necrathex | hm, what timezone is that :P |
| 15:40.16 | Fisker- | gemt -1 |
| 15:40.40 | Fisker- | gmt* |
| 15:40.55 | Fisker- | why it would be that though i don't know |
| 15:41.01 | Necrathex | hmm |
| 15:41.07 | Necrathex | who lives in gmt-1? |
| 15:41.11 | mjc | probably where the box is located |
| 15:41.24 | Necrathex | on the Azores? |
| 15:41.40 | Necrathex | Cape Verdian isles? |
| 15:42.02 | Necrathex | weird :P |
| 15:42.36 | Fisker- | could be gmt if it's really an hour since it updated last |
| 15:43.24 | Necrathex | it's updated now |
| 15:43.31 | Necrathex | cos my addon is there :) |
| 15:43.45 | Fisker- | well the servertime is of then |
| 15:43.49 | mjc | hey don't knock the azores |
| 15:43.50 | Fisker- | off* |
| 15:43.51 | Necrathex | yes |
| 15:43.52 | Mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=70811412909ab46dd4e19e222fddb405&id=6488 |
| 15:44.30 | mjc | I like vB |
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| 15:45.07 | abbat-w | Meekma! |
| 15:47.29 | doktoreas | is there any news for perfect raid? |
| 15:47.52 | Fisker- | who the hell made that? |
| 15:47.58 | mjc | cladhaire |
| 15:48.08 | Fisker- | arkinventory? |
| 15:48.13 | mjc | no |
| 15:48.17 | Fisker- | :o |
| 15:48.18 | mjc | check the author name... |
| 15:48.19 | Fisker- | ah |
| 15:48.36 | mjc | arkayenro |
| 15:48.38 | Fisker- | was more in the sense of who that person is :P |
| 15:48.45 | Fisker- | he sounds new to me |
| 15:48.46 | Fisker- | :P |
| 15:48.49 | mjc | enginventory dude |
| 15:49.01 | Fisker- | ah |
| 15:49.05 | mjc | it's a rename |
| 15:49.13 | Fisker- | looks different though |
| 15:49.19 | Fisker- | or i just remember like a n00b |
| 15:49.38 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r21814 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (ItemBonusLib/ README.txt TableTopLib/ VectorLib/): |
| 15:49.38 | CIA-17 | !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 15:49.38 | CIA-17 | - removed VectorLib (not in /files) |
| 15:49.38 | CIA-17 | - added ItemBonusLib |
| 15:49.39 | CIA-17 | - added TableTopLib |
| 15:49.45 | Fisker- | or as a 4channer would say "FUKKEN SAVED" |
| 15:49.58 | Necrathex | is perfectraid updated for wow2.0? |
| 15:50.11 | mjc | no |
| 15:51.34 | Necrathex | any replacement that comes close? |
| 15:55.08 | alcaras | praid style aguf raid unit frames? :P |
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| 15:57.29 | KarlThePagan | Necrathex, I like Grid |
| 15:57.43 | KarlThePagan | grid with class layout |
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| 16:00.53 | Necrathex | KarlThePagan: thx |
| 16:01.00 | KarlThePagan | np |
| 16:01.32 | Fisker- | fuck |
| 16:01.37 | Fisker- | people are turning in, in this av |
| 16:01.52 | Fisker- | gloated to much about my progress ;( |
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| 16:05.13 | Fisker- | Whos "TotalPackage"? |
| 16:05.49 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r21815 10RaidAgent/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:05.49 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 16:05.50 | CIA-17 | - Initial commit, work in progress but complete enough to be useable |
| 16:08.44 | Prophy||Work | it'll be nice if grid provided profiles for each classes..preset profiles.. |
| 16:08.50 | mjc | grid + the layout by interface size thing |
| 16:09.02 | mjc | Prophy: it autodetects some stuff |
| 16:09.52 | Prophy||Work | like some of the standard stuff..if a priest then they just need diseases/magic to appear |
| 16:10.03 | Prophy||Work | for druids curses/poisons. |
| 16:10.07 | Mikma | so, how's thing? |
| 16:10.17 | Mikma | any new interesting addons released? |
| 16:10.17 | Prophy||Work | stuff like that would help customization downtime lol |
| 16:10.26 | mjc | LootMap |
| 16:10.26 | Prophy||Work | takes like 20-30mins to setup grid =( |
| 16:10.27 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21816 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 16:10.27 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 16:10.27 | CIA-17 | - added debug info, cleanup |
| 16:11.11 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r21817 10RaidAgent/ (. RaidAgent.lua RaidAgent.toc): |
| 16:11.11 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 16:11.11 | CIA-17 | - Externals |
| 16:11.54 | Fisker- | is tristan on irc? |
| 16:12.03 | Fisker- | or should i say mirc lol |
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| 16:12.41 | kenlyric | good thing, because, DIAF! |
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| 16:14.59 | alcaras | hrm, in pvp what would you say, on average, is the ratio of melee (armor-reduced) and magic (armor-ignoring) damage to a warrior? (just give a general estimate) |
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| 16:16.18 | beerke | 60% for melee roughly i bet |
| 16:16.27 | beerke | maybe a tad to high |
| 16:16.29 | beerke | make it 50% |
| 16:16.36 | beerke | on my hunter i got 43% |
| 16:16.38 | alcaras | 50/50? k, that was what i was thinking |
| 16:16.50 | beerke | and that is with 4.5k armor |
| 16:17.11 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r21818 10RaidAgent/RaidAgent.lua: |
| 16:17.11 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 16:17.11 | CIA-17 | - Finalized externals |
| 16:17.15 | beerke | magic dmg i dunno, hardly much resists running around anymore |
| 16:17.40 | alcaras | i'm trying to write a "PvPPoints" a la TankPoints for warriors |
| 16:17.41 | beerke | most likely near to 0% |
| 16:17.51 | alcaras | and thus need to discount armor/dodge/etc. |
| 16:17.59 | beerke | Pff extract data from spell and base stat tab |
| 16:18.11 | beerke | you get the mitigation/resist chance from there |
| 16:18.14 | alcaras | i'll ignore resists since most casters have spell penetration |
| 16:18.24 | alcaras | beerke: right, but i want to know how many opponents are going to be even going through armor |
| 16:18.28 | alcaras | thus needed the ratio |
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| 16:18.41 | alcaras | so that armor only applies "half the time," whereas stamina "always works" |
| 16:18.43 | alcaras | see what i mean? |
| 16:18.44 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r21819 10RaidAgent/RaidAgent.lua: |
| 16:18.44 | CIA-17 | RaidAgent: |
| 16:18.44 | CIA-17 | - Removed my TODO list from the lua file ;) and put it on a file outside the SVN |
| 16:19.05 | beerke | luv hunters that can do physical and magical ^^ |
| 16:19.07 | Amadeo | My Shaman finally hit 40 last night, got some DW weapons, he really rips stuff up now |
| 16:19.20 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21820 10PallyPower/PallyPower.toc: |
| 16:19.20 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 16:19.20 | CIA-17 | - corrected revision |
| 16:19.22 | aE|neXter | paly's do to, melee and holy dmg |
| 16:19.51 | beerke | pff shamans too |
| 16:20.08 | beerke | even priests ! |
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| 16:21.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+v GoogleSearch] by ChanServ |
| 16:21.14 | GoogleSearch | Heya ;) |
| 16:21.55 | GoogleSearch | Does anybody know if the CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_SAY ever trigger? |
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| 16:22.13 | GoogleSearch | I don't remember of a named who whispers to players |
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| 16:26.53 | Tornhoof | cthun |
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| 16:27.10 | Azurewrath | Bloodlord Mandokir.. or am i wrong? |
| 16:28.05 | [Ammo] | he yells |
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| 16:28.06 | Soulless | hakkar does too |
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| 16:28.16 | GoogleSearch | Ok, thanks :)) |
| 16:28.16 | Soulless | they will whisper you with stuff too |
| 16:29.43 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r21821 10DrDamage/ (. DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc ReadMe.txt SpellData.lua): |
| 16:29.43 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: initial commit |
| 16:29.43 | CIA-17 | - TheoryCraft light for casters. Currently in heavy developement and only warlocks spells/talents. |
| 16:29.44 | Gnarfoz | but their whispers are gray by default |
| 16:29.51 | Gnarfoz | not pink-ish, like player whispers |
| 16:29.58 | Gnarfoz | don't know if they really are 'whispers' |
| 16:31.53 | Azurewrath | They can't be, cause otherwise you would be able to click the name or something.. so it must be it's own text type |
| 16:32.07 | Soulless | yeah, its grey text |
| 16:32.14 | DrZoot | for the function SetTexCoord the arguments 0,1,1,0 would be the normal right? (as in would return the texture to normal) |
| 16:33.15 | [Ammo] | 0,1,0,1 I think |
| 16:33.16 | Saroz | Ag_uf so needs party casting bars |
| 16:33.16 | Saroz | -.- |
| 16:33.28 | alcaras | mEnemyCastBar |
| 16:33.30 | Saroz | I almost want to switch back to nurfed just because of that |
| 16:33.36 | alcaras | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5488.html |
| 16:33.42 | alcaras | party cast bars for mEnemyCastbar |
| 16:33.44 | alcaras | err |
| 16:33.45 | alcaras | for aguf |
| 16:33.53 | [Ammo] | only mEnemyCastbar |
| 16:34.26 | Saroz | [Ammo]? |
| 16:34.37 | [Ammo] | only for enemies I mean |
| 16:34.38 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 16:34.40 | [Ammo] | so hard to type |
| 16:34.41 | alcaras | no |
| 16:34.42 | alcaras | it works for party |
| 16:34.45 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 16:34.47 | alcaras | yes |
| 16:34.48 | [Ammo] | sweet |
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| 16:34.57 | Saroz | the nurfed ones are freaking nice |
| 16:35.08 | Clashen | anyone know how these murloc pets works? |
| 16:35.42 | [Ammo] | mEnemyCastbar looks sweet too :p |
| 16:35.49 | [Ammo] | but it uses CandyBar's scaled to the agUF frames |
| 16:35.53 | [Ammo] | so they have to be sweet :p |
| 16:36.04 | aE|neXter | yeah, but the position is kind of fixed... |
| 16:36.13 | [Ammo] | should be changeable |
| 16:36.14 | aE|neXter | which makes it difficult to build custom layouts.... |
| 16:36.14 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 16:36.22 | [Ammo] | screw custom layout |
| 16:36.33 | Ominous | or just manually edit the code :P |
| 16:36.34 | [Ammo] | some people want everything and the kitchen sink |
| 16:36.41 | [Ammo] | they can go use Discord |
| 16:36.43 | pastamancer | that's fer sure |
| 16:36.43 | aE|neXter | no, i didn't mean agUf custom layouts |
| 16:36.48 | aE|neXter | you missunderstood me |
| 16:36.51 | [Ammo] | I didn't |
| 16:36.56 | [Ammo] | you want the bar completely customizabl;e |
| 16:36.59 | [Ammo] | position et all |
| 16:37.12 | aE|neXter | completly isn't neccesary |
| 16:37.16 | Saroz | have you seen the nurfed ones? |
| 16:37.26 | aE|neXter | but it's a pain in the ass to change position via lua editing |
| 16:37.38 | [Ammo] | I haven't seen the nurfed ones |
| 16:37.38 | aE|neXter | if you're the "ace guy" if your guild |
| 16:37.50 | [Ammo] | I'm the asshole in my guild |
| 16:37.53 | aE|neXter | and everybody want's you to guide them... |
| 16:37.56 | [Ammo] | I tell people to go use CTRA |
| 16:38.05 | TheKarn | i tell people i dont like to use CTRA |
| 16:38.11 | Ominous | lol |
| 16:38.13 | aE|neXter | isnce 2.0 i've 'converted' about 50% to ace2 based addons |
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| 16:38.31 | [Ammo] | even though I wrote oRA2 I point people to please use CTRA because they're dumbfucks :p |
| 16:38.37 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21822 10PallyPower/: |
| 16:38.37 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 16:38.37 | CIA-17 | - touch |
| 16:38.45 | Ominous | i am 100% ace apart from KLH threat and guild ads |
| 16:38.51 | aE|neXter | there are a few ppl who put their eguf frames at their very bottom, thus not seeinf the mECB |
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| 16:39.01 | aE|neXter | klh is bs |
| 16:39.11 | Gnarfoz | is not. |
| 16:39.16 | [Ammo] | klh is overrated and not needed |
| 16:39.21 | Gnarfoz | that maybe |
| 16:39.23 | aE|neXter | yeah, it is. /sign ammo |
| 16:39.25 | Gnarfoz | but it does what it says |
| 16:39.28 | Ominous | but my guild require it |
| 16:39.37 | Ominous | i dont use it, jsut have it minimised |
| 16:39.38 | [Ammo] | lucky I have a say in my guild :p |
| 16:39.41 | Clashen | makes fights easier |
| 16:39.42 | aE|neXter | well, then your ppl should l2p :( |
| 16:39.44 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r21823 10Bits/Bits/Bits-1.0/Bits-1.0.lua: |
| 16:39.44 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 16:39.44 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.44 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.59 | TheKarn | ckk got bashed |
| 16:40.01 | aE|neXter | i think, ktm is same thing as decursive, takes away the "skill" |
| 16:40.03 | TheKarn | http://bash.org/?715285 |
| 16:40.17 | KarlThePagan | TheKarn, orly |
| 16:40.27 | Fisker- | nah |
| 16:40.31 | Fisker- | you still have to react on the info |
| 16:40.32 | Ominous | well guild ads and KLH take ages to load |
| 16:40.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I guess raids who use klhtm maximise their damage a bit more than raids without, because they can actually SEE it and not only 'have a feeling for it' acquired by learning2p |
| 16:40.45 | Fisker- | decursive also removes the element of playing |
| 16:40.48 | aE|neXter | react to a table, which tell you to stop spamming ss? |
| 16:40.51 | KarlThePagan | KTM is good IMO ONLY if everyone who uses it knows how aggro works |
| 16:40.58 | Saroz | http://www.fridgid.com/nurfed/fridgidrandom.jpg |
| 16:41.07 | Fisker- | i agree KarlThePagan |
| 16:41.10 | Necrathex | ktm meter is often wrong |
| 16:41.12 | aE|neXter | if everybody know how aggro works, they don't need ktm |
| 16:41.15 | Gnarfoz | it's not wrong o_O |
| 16:41.20 | Gnarfoz | what are you talking about :D |
| 16:41.23 | KarlThePagan | they maximize it after their dps learns what "onyxia knockbacks and then you die" means to their aggro numbers |
| 16:41.33 | Saroz | http://www.fridgid.com/nurfed/fridgidrandom.jpg | http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sapphiron2bb6.jpg |
| 16:41.47 | Necrathex | Gnarfoz: we did a 10 man onyxia the other day |
| 16:41.52 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 16:41.52 | Necrathex | everybody had the same version of ktm |
| 16:41.59 | Necrathex | and mt was 5th place or so |
| 16:42.00 | Necrathex | not losing aggro |
| 16:42.06 | KarlThePagan | aE|neXter, not true... unless you have some magical brain that parses combat logs and adds up your threat (modified by talents) vs your tank's threat (again modified by talents) |
| 16:42.09 | Fisker- | because of knockback |
| 16:42.13 | Gnarfoz | and did you RTFM about onyxia and klhtm? :p |
| 16:42.19 | Fisker- | noone has taken the time to check what knockback does |
| 16:42.21 | [Ammo] | Saroz where is hte castbar in the first one? |
| 16:42.22 | KarlThePagan | Necrathex, 30% |
| 16:42.27 | Eej | there are fights where it's very difficult to keep track of your own aggro in yoru head along with the tank's |
| 16:42.32 | KarlThePagan | you need to overtake tank by 30% to gain aggro |
| 16:42.36 | aE|neXter | KarlThePagan: well, if you know your class you get "the felling for your aggro" and therefore don't need ktm |
| 16:42.39 | KarlThePagan | or 10% if in melee |
| 16:42.41 | Necrathex | with 'wrong' i mean there's a difference between real aggro and ktm list |
| 16:42.46 | Saroz | [Ammo] on the left of the frames |
| 16:42.54 | Necrathex | KarlThePagan: a paladin had twice the aggro and he was meleeing |
| 16:42.56 | KarlThePagan | aE|neXter, hard numbers > intuition |
| 16:43.02 | Saroz | [Ammo], small vertical bar, looks niiice |
| 16:43.07 | KarlThePagan | ok nec... that does sound wrong I admit :) |
| 16:43.07 | Necrathex | yes we had a nub tank >< |
| 16:43.08 | Soulless | Saroz / [Ammo] what you asking? thats my layout |
| 16:43.14 | Necrathex | but maybe it's onyxia |
| 16:43.16 | [Ammo] | oh the party castbars |
| 16:43.18 | Saroz | party castbars, from nurfed |
| 16:43.19 | aE|neXter | KarlThePagan: fun playing > doing what a table tells me |
| 16:43.21 | kergoth | i think ktm can be a useful informational aid if everyone is running it, but it's by no means required or the only means of making decisions |
| 16:43.22 | Necrathex | she's known to have weird aggro mechanics i guess |
| 16:43.22 | Gnarfoz | aE|neXter: I call bs. although I've never used klhtm for managing my aggro, 'a feeling' can never be as accurate as something that simply watches what you are doing |
| 16:43.24 | Soulless | ahhh, its nurfed |
| 16:43.26 | Saroz | yea |
| 16:43.31 | [Ammo] | I don't like the look, they're like humongous on the second one |
| 16:43.36 | Soulless | yeah, sorry i didn't fancy ag too much |
| 16:43.39 | [Ammo] | I think I'll go with menemy since I use aguf :) |
| 16:43.44 | Saroz | [Ammo], the first one is nice |
| 16:43.45 | KarlThePagan | aE|neXter, that's a personal preference not an objective evaluation |
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| 16:44.00 | kergoth | whats raidagent do? |
| 16:44.06 | kergoth | notes are kinda vague |
| 16:44.10 | [Ammo] | frmo what I see |
| 16:44.12 | Silviu- | [2006/12/22 18:44:44-67-x1]: Capping-2.11\options.lua:230: attempt to index field 'bar' (a nil value) |
| 16:44.13 | [Ammo] | easy setting ML |
| 16:44.14 | [Ammo] | removeing etc |
| 16:44.16 | [Ammo] | and adding |
| 16:44.17 | Necrathex | i've seen tons of times in raids a lock taking over aggro instead of the mage who's higher in threat |
| 16:44.20 | [Ammo] | of players |
| 16:44.21 | aE|neXter | well, where's the fun in just having to do, what an addon is telling me? |
| 16:44.25 | Necrathex | or other way round.. |
| 16:44.27 | *** part/#wowace Lopen (n=Lopen_@207.74.131.208) |
| 16:44.38 | [Ammo] | we tried klhtm |
| 16:44.38 | aE|neXter | there has to be some kind of individuality, playstyle, effort, learning curve |
| 16:44.39 | KarlThePagan | aE|neXter, you were talking about "needs" my needs aren't subject to personal whims |
| 16:44.40 | Soulless | is there a reagentfu type mod for fubar 2.0? |
| 16:44.44 | [Ammo] | but it causes more problems than it solved |
| 16:45.06 | [Ammo] | since people think they can dps harder than neccessary |
| 16:45.07 | Gnarfoz | which is |
| 16:45.07 | KarlThePagan | you can say you don't like it and I'll agree with you, but you can't say it's not useful |
| 16:45.09 | aE|neXter | KarlThePagan: ok, then it's my personal opinion then, but it's like that |
| 16:45.12 | Gnarfoz | a Layer 8 problem. |
| 16:45.13 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 16:45.23 | kergoth | it doesnt help that people dont watch the damn thing. what good is an aid like ktm if people areng paying attention to it |
| 16:45.27 | Ominous | i have just added LOD tags and Supply and demand tags to mine so i only load it when i am asked to so it isnt a pain the rest of the time, |
| 16:45.27 | [Ammo] | time to try those party castbars |
| 16:45.33 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 16:45.38 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: Layer 8 problem, again ;D |
| 16:45.46 | Saroz | uhhhmmm |
| 16:45.52 | Fisker- | "But the OSI layer only has 7 layers" |
| 16:45.52 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 16:45.57 | Gnarfoz | heh : |
| 16:46.02 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r21824 10DrDamage/DrDamage.toc: |
| 16:46.02 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 16:46.02 | CIA-17 | -.toc update |
| 16:46.13 | Gnarfoz | also called 'PEBKAC' |
| 16:46.15 | Garns | Soulless: There is reagentfu :> |
| 16:46.19 | Soulless | ....please don't mention the osi layers.... lol |
| 16:46.30 | Soulless | gams does it work?> i thought it was dated like 8/12/06 |
| 16:46.49 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21825 10PallyPower/PallyPower.toc: |
| 16:46.49 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 16:46.49 | CIA-17 | - version update |
| 16:46.51 | Soulless | erm, Garns |
| 16:47.03 | CIA-17 | 03solor * r21826 10PallyPower/libs/: |
| 16:47.03 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 16:47.03 | CIA-17 | - correctly set externals |
| 16:47.13 | pastamancer | nono, the 8th layer in the OSI model is political |
| 16:47.46 | DrZoot | I have a texture on a frame, it is one of many frames that I have textured in exactly the same way but for some reason when I call SetTexCoord(0,1,1,0) it flips it (in place) along the x axis, any ideas? none of the other frames are doing this |
| 16:47.49 | Ominous | btw in pattens in enGB they are %s gains %s but in deDE they are %$1s gains %$2s are they different in any other locale in a differnet way? |
| 16:48.08 | FtH|eagle | pastamancer: did you get my query? |
| 16:48.21 | Soulless | DrZoot: did to read the wowwiki notes on settexcord transformations? |
| 16:48.24 | Garns | Soulless: http://www.wowace.com/files/FuBar_ReagentFu/FuBar_ReagentFu-r21048.zip (2006-12-17 10:33:37) |
| 16:48.28 | DrZoot | Soulless: yes |
| 16:48.33 | pastamancer | FtH|eagle: if you have somethng to say, just say it |
| 16:49.05 | Soulless | gams ty |
| 16:49.12 | Garns | np :D |
| 16:49.15 | DrZoot | Soulless: 0,1,1,0 should do nothing to the texture, but instead it flips it |
| 16:49.21 | FtH|eagle | Because it's easier to discuss things in queries sometimes? |
| 16:49.37 | Gnarfoz | FtH|eagle: registered with freenode? |
| 16:49.42 | Gnarfoz | otherwise you can't send private messages. |
| 16:49.47 | FtH|eagle | sure I am |
| 16:49.56 | Gnarfoz | just checking ;0 |
| 16:50.40 | pastamancer | just saying "hi" or "hello" isn't going to get a response from me. |
| 16:50.54 | FtH|eagle | not? Oh I'm sorry |
| 16:51.01 | FtH|eagle | just forget it |
| 16:51.09 | Soulless | DrZoot: i tried to do some vertical bars earlier with settex but i sucked sorry :( |
| 16:51.37 | Gnarfoz | heh, I don't react on simply 'hi' either... just annoying ^^ |
| 16:51.41 | DrZoot | Soulless: lol, np. thanks anyways |
| 16:52.19 | Soulless | did you check any existing mods that use them, and see how they worked, thats usually where i start once i finish reading a wiki |
| 16:53.20 | add\\Leialyn | Saroz there? |
| 16:53.41 | Saroz | ye |
| 16:53.42 | Saroz | sup |
| 16:53.43 | Soulless | did you try (0,1,0,1)? |
| 16:53.53 | DrZoot | well the thing is, Ive actually got about 8 of these bars working fine, but for some reason these last four are doing something very odd |
| 16:54.44 | add\\Leialyn | sere seems to be a localization bug in sRaidframes since last few revisions ^^ |
| 16:54.48 | DrZoot | yeah I did try that and it does work *BUT* it shouldnt, and im not going to make an exception in my code for it, something strange is going on I just cant think what it is |
| 16:54.54 | Saroz | add\\Leialyn, oh? |
| 16:55.15 | add\\Leialyn | everytimes I stealth, I get unknown status buff_verstohlenheit with german wow |
| 16:55.34 | Saroz | ahh shit |
| 16:55.45 | alcaras | any advice? trying to use gratituity lib to figure out the damage range of an item... using this atm: Gratuity:SetInventoryItem("player", GetInventorySlotInfo("MainHandSlot")); local _, _, low, top = Gratuity:Find("^(%d+) - (%d+) Damage") |
| 16:56.13 | add\\Leialyn | and everytimes some else stealthed T_T annoying in alterac :o |
| 16:56.22 | add\\Leialyn | omg chatspam ^^ |
| 16:56.51 | *** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuOHEP@h54.ciscom.ru) |
| 16:56.53 | add\\Leialyn | same for shadowform, so seems to be something you changed with the statusdisplay ^^ |
| 16:56.54 | sylvanaar | good morning |
| 16:58.04 | alcaras | any experienced gratuity people know why this code always says 'No weapon equipped'? http://ace.pastey.net/3895 |
| 16:58.12 | Saroz | add\\Leialyn, yea, will fix it tonight |
| 16:58.31 | add\\Leialyn | Saroz nice ^^ |
| 16:59.11 | add\\Leialyn | ah and btw, did you know of the short fps lags when lots of ppl join or leave grp? Noticeable at beginning and end of battlegrounds |
| 16:59.30 | sylvanaar | i have |
| 16:59.42 | Saroz | secure frames are not the most optimized thing in the world |
| 16:59.43 | nuOHEP | alcaras im using thisand it works fine gratuity:Find("(%d+) %- (%d+) Damage", 4, 5, nil, true) |
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| 16:59.45 | Saroz | *shrug* |
| 16:59.47 | CIA-17 | 03pb_ee1 * r21827 10ChatLog/ (6 files): ChatLog: Adding logging of monster/NPC's emotes, yells, whispers and says. |
| 16:59.53 | alcaras | nuOHEP: ah, %- |
| 17:00.01 | alcaras | nuOHEP: is - something special in string.finds ? |
| 17:00.08 | nuOHEP | yeah |
| 17:00.15 | alcaras | range. right |
| 17:00.23 | add\\Leialyn | Saroz I did not have this with ct_raid :x |
| 17:00.23 | alcaras | thanks, that should fix my problem! :) |
| 17:00.41 | sylvanaar | ~seen pb_ee1 |
| 17:01.18 | purl | pb_ee1 <n=pb_ee1@rob92-8-82-242-12-147.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 1h 38m 15s ago, saying: '!addon wow model viewer'. |
| 17:01.18 | alcaras | yup, it worked! |
| 17:01.31 | alcaras | !addon wow model viewer |
| 17:01.39 | Barbanus | add\\Leialyn, from my understanding its a blizz bug, its really not optimized, ctraid has written a workaround, but its still not sRaidFrames's fault ... at least that is my understanding on the matter anyways. |
| 17:02.11 | Barbanus | ctraid did the same thing when 2.0 released |
| 17:02.55 | sylvanaar | is it lag or clicks and lag |
| 17:03.19 | add\\Leialyn | I don't mean the clicks |
| 17:03.41 | sylvanaar | it usually has to do with interacting with the scoreboard |
| 17:04.01 | sylvanaar | least - thats how it seemed to me |
| 17:04.20 | Barbanus | it happens when our naxx raid was disbanded |
| 17:04.28 | sylvanaar | o |
| 17:04.30 | Barbanus | it has to be an extreme number of joins/leaves |
| 17:04.42 | Barbanus | using /rainvite or /radisband will cause it |
| 17:05.02 | Barbanus | but its like a 2-3 sec pause on my computer, so it doesnt bother me :P |
| 17:05.03 | sylvanaar | well - thats an extreme case |
| 17:05.22 | add\\Leialyn | yeah not really "this" annoying but I'm just wondering why ct_raid is not lagging ^^ |
| 17:05.49 | sylvanaar | it avoids it? |
| 17:06.24 | sylvanaar | are you certain |
| 17:06.59 | add\\Leialyn | hmmm gonna test it now |
| 17:07.30 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r21828 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua SpellData.lua): |
| 17:07.30 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 17:07.30 | CIA-17 | -Debug code cleanup |
| 17:09.18 | add\\Leialyn | No noticeable fps lags this time with ct_raid groups enabled |
| 17:09.19 | Fisker- | Does Tristan exist in here? :P |
| 17:09.22 | Fisker- | ~seen Tristan |
| 17:09.56 | purl | tristan <i=tristan@ppp120-43.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 148d 14h 20m 50s ago, saying: 'it's tomcat tomcat-5.5.17-r1 running under gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 with sun jvm 1.5.0_07-b03'. |
| 17:10.10 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:11.26 | CIA-17 | 03solor * r21829 10PallyPower/libs/: |
| 17:11.26 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 17:11.26 | CIA-17 | - fixing up my mess since you found other solution (sorry) |
| 17:11.27 | Mahiro | hi |
| 17:11.50 | nuOHEP | can someone with svn commit rights apply a fix for capping? http://www.pastey.net/3896 |
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| 17:11.57 | Mahiro | everytime i join a raid i get the following error: Error: table index is nil |
| 17:11.57 | Mahiro | any idea why this happens? |
| 17:12.23 | sylvanaar | if you see that its been fixed / make a diff to see what he did |
| 17:12.43 | phreaky | Benumbed: Tried your MusicStream, nice addon :) I was just wondering if there is an option to list channels to choose a certain channel to play :) |
| 17:13.03 | Fisker- | Devla violated it phreaky :O |
| 17:13.15 | phreaky | Fisker-: huh? =) |
| 17:13.46 | pastamancer | Mahiro: It is a bug in Blizzard's code which should be fixed in 2.0.2. |
| 17:13.46 | CIA-17 | 03sano * r21830 10LoggerHead/ (LoggerHeadLocale-enUS.lua Loggerhead.lua): LoggerHead: Modified to log any zone not just instances. |
| 17:13.52 | Fisker- | originally it had like 9 channels :P |
| 17:13.56 | Fisker- | devla added like 20 :O |
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| 17:14.00 | Mahiro | ahh ok, thx |
| 17:14.02 | phreaky | Fisker-: ah okey.. |
| 17:14.12 | Fisker- | but no option to list channels yet |
| 17:14.16 | Fisker- | but i think he's working on it |
| 17:14.20 | phreaky | sounds nice :) |
| 17:14.44 | phreaky | Though u can add channels in the lua file or so but would be nice to be able to ingame also :) but i guess it's all beeing worked on =) |
| 17:15.27 | Barbanus | woot, no more weekly maintenance? |
| 17:15.40 | Soulless | o_O |
| 17:15.47 | Barbanus | ooooo PallyPower moved to wowace.com? This is a wonderful day indeed! |
| 17:16.08 | Necrathex | any way to move the mEnemyCastbar ? |
| 17:16.14 | Barbanus | No weekly maintenance: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/59665994.htm?posts=1 |
| 17:16.22 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 17:16.27 | Fisker- | already old news man! |
| 17:16.37 | Soulless | need more pallypower spam imo |
| 17:16.54 | Barbanus | pallypower spam? |
| 17:16.54 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:16.57 | Fisker- | pallypower ftw |
| 17:17.10 | Fisker- | he's been doing a lot of commits today Barbanus :P |
| 17:17.38 | Barbanus | hehe cool |
| 17:17.45 | Barbanus | Thats my favourite mod :) |
| 17:17.54 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r21831 10Capping/options.lua: |
| 17:17.54 | CIA-17 | Capping |
| 17:17.55 | CIA-17 | - Options typo |
| 17:19.21 | alcaras | is there an API command to get naked damage? |
| 17:19.32 | alcaras | UnitDamage applies all the stats :-/ |
| 17:20.04 | Gnarfoz | don't think so, just undress :\ |
| 17:20.12 | Barbanus | like just base dmg of your weapon? |
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| 17:20.18 | alcaras | i can get base damage of weapon |
| 17:20.25 | alcaras | but i want base damage of no weapon as well |
| 17:20.30 | alcaras | the 'base weapon', if you will |
| 17:20.35 | alcaras | without factoring in gear |
| 17:20.39 | Barbanus | the "punching damage"? :P |
| 17:20.42 | alcaras | yes |
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| 17:22.03 | alcaras | no way to get it from the api, is there? |
| 17:22.14 | mupp | I guess this has been asked alot, but what's with gmail on svn? |
| 17:22.17 | alcaras | i guess i'll have to reverse engineer it |
| 17:22.29 | alcaras | what's wrong with gmail on svn? |
| 17:22.30 | pastamancer | mupp: read the forum thread |
| 17:22.49 | Fisker- | it was removed because someone had comitted copied code |
| 17:23.07 | mupp | meh |
| 17:23.25 | mupp | i updated through the svn, and it deleted all the files for me :p |
| 17:23.31 | mupp | need it back |
| 17:23.39 | Fisker- | get ct_mailmod |
| 17:23.41 | Fisker- | it was the same thing |
| 17:23.45 | Gnarfoz | wasn't |
| 17:23.45 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 17:23.46 | axxo | bah, can't find a working inspect addon that adds up stats |
| 17:23.55 | Gnarfoz | ct_mailmod does not use ace2, does it? -.- |
| 17:23.57 | Fisker- | no gmail was technically worse than ct_mailmod |
| 17:24.12 | Gnarfoz | worked faster than ct_mm for me |
| 17:24.13 | Fisker- | because every ace implementation was crappy and ineffecient |
| 17:24.14 | Fisker- | apparently |
| 17:24.26 | Gnarfoz | and I've been using ct_mm for since it existed before using gmail :\ |
| 17:24.38 | aE|neXter | use BulkMail instead if you want to send multiple items... |
| 17:24.43 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 17:24.43 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:24.52 | Gnarfoz | and if i want to open multiple items? |
| 17:25.01 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r21832 10Bits/Bits/Bits-1.0/Bits-1.0.lua: |
| 17:25.01 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 17:25.02 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.05 | aE|neXter | well, i guess ... click multiple time :( |
| 17:25.09 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 17:25.11 | Gnarfoz | you lose ;) |
| 17:25.15 | Fisker- | expressmail |
| 17:25.17 | Kemayo | I use ExpressMail for that, though it's not a direct multiple items thing. |
| 17:25.17 | Barbanus | whos "code" did it have in it? CTs? |
| 17:25.25 | KarlThePagan | Gnarfoz, GMail didn't really use Ace2 |
| 17:25.31 | Gnarfoz | that was the point ct_mm, both functions in one addon ^^ |
| 17:25.39 | KarlThePagan | it was a blatant copy of ct_mm |
| 17:25.42 | Gnarfoz | of course I will go back to ct_mm in the case it ever gets any new functions |
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| 17:25.52 | Kemayo | Barbanus: It was a very straight rip of ct_mailmod. |
| 17:25.52 | Fisker- | ask tekkub :O |
| 17:26.00 | CIA-17 | 03elkano * r21833 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: |
| 17:26.00 | CIA-17 | FuBar_FactionsFu |
| 17:26.00 | CIA-17 | - fixed posting data to chat |
| 17:26.18 | Gnarfoz | whatever constitutes a 'rip' in your definition |
| 17:26.34 | KarlThePagan | copy/pasting large sections of code and changing the varialbe names |
| 17:26.38 | KarlThePagan | which is exactly what it was |
| 17:26.52 | alcaras | rofl, someone just turned in onyxia's head on ... beta |
| 17:27.01 | KarlThePagan | noone who codes lua who was here talking to Cide disputed that fact |
| 17:27.09 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: Starting with CT_Mailmod's code, and lightly aceing it. |
| 17:27.11 | Gnarfoz | but alas, I've participated in that discussion several times now, for different topics (UI themes e.g.) :\ |
| 17:27.13 | KarlThePagan | there are diffs out there |
| 17:28.02 | Fisker- | alcaras seen both nefs and onyxias head up a lot of times on bloodmyst |
| 17:28.08 | Kemayo | It wasn't until a few revisions in that it stopped referring to CTMod in the error messages. :-P |
| 17:29.25 | SoLoR | gmail was never "new" mod, it was allways ct_mailmod with different variables put/aced and put on SVN |
| 17:29.43 | SoLoR | ONLY function that was ever different from ct_mailmod was itemstacking |
| 17:29.45 | SoLoR | and thats it |
| 17:30.24 | SoLoR | until i changed it a bit it actualy where using same localization files then old ct_mailmod |
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| 17:31.09 | SoLoR | just hate reading "until someone copy/pasted blah blah", because it was like that from start |
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| 17:32.17 | Fisker- | sorry SoLoR :o |
| 17:32.30 | Fisker- | didn't really get into the last part so didn't know he actually had done that from the start |
| 17:32.44 | Kemayo | Yeah, I'm not sure where the misconception came from. |
| 17:33.18 | SoLoR | everytime someone writes "until someone copy/pasted" i feel bad like shit :D |
| 17:33.28 | SoLoR | like its all my fault :D |
| 17:33.30 | SoLoR | :( |
| 17:33.31 | Kemayo | I saw people talking about "reverting it to before SoLoR got at it" during the Cide!Drama yesterday, which was a sure sign of people not doing their damn research. |
| 17:33.37 | kergoth | dont feel bad, i'm sure most blame grennon |
| 17:33.41 | kergoth | i certainly do :) |
| 17:34.03 | mupp | i always figured it was a ripoff with minor ace modification, but i thought I thought the stuff that was added overtime was his own |
| 17:34.18 | Iceroth | ermh... i did svn update * like 2h ago, now joined a raid: "BugSack: 2414 erros have been recorded." and wow froze for ~5s totally |
| 17:34.28 | Fisker- | sounds awesome |
| 17:34.32 | kergoth | that said, grennon certainly isnt the only one with this "lets ace everything, since just being ace makes it better!" mindset |
| 17:34.38 | kergoth | foolishness |
| 17:34.42 | kergoth | Iceroth: ouch :| |
| 17:35.11 | SoLoR | well i do admit "i borowed" that function that broke in 2.0 from ct_mailmod to make it work, and tryed to acelocale it but that was about it :) |
| 17:35.29 | SoLoR | but just because i saw this as common practice in this mod :) |
| 17:35.32 | Iceroth | here we go again |
| 17:35.49 | Codayus | What happened was Cide posted some code which had been commited by SoLoR. Suggesting that it be reverted the revision prior to that made sense...until you notice that the every revision was just a very lightly aced copy of CT_MailMod. :-) |
| 17:35.52 | Iceroth | now |
| 17:35.59 | Iceroth | that's over 15s :s |
| 17:36.17 | SoLoR | Codayus ye that was true |
| 17:36.19 | Iceroth | 2750 errors |
| 17:36.22 | SoLoR | he copy pasted my code :) |
| 17:36.30 | SoLoR | well that fucntion ;> |
| 17:36.58 | SoLoR | and hm "my"... dont take it literaly :D |
| 17:37.15 | Codayus | To be honest, I don't really understand the point of GMail, but then, I use CT_MailMod myself. :-) |
| 17:37.34 | kergoth | is bulkmail usable in 2.0 yet? i miss it |
| 17:37.48 | SoLoR | Codayus my point was more or less - that crap library and on SVN |
| 17:38.00 | Codayus | I suppose... |
| 17:38.24 | SoLoR | but i also used ct_mailmod until i found SVN :) |
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| 17:39.50 | aE|neXter | kergoth: yeah, with 2.0 ace1 and 2.0 acegui, works for me |
| 17:40.01 | aE|neXter | kergoth: bulkmail had his 2.0 update last week or so |
| 17:41.18 | kergoth | cool, sucks that ace1/acegui have to come back, but at least it works |
| 17:41.38 | [Liquidor] | 0,9 - 0,10 = ? |
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| 17:41.54 | Kemayo | kergoth: Yeah, it works. I updated it most of the way, then someone fixed alt-clicking. :D |
| 17:41.54 | Gnarfoz | [Liquidor]: 0.8? |
| 17:42.26 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:42.37 | Ani| | got a problem... trying to commit a new version of my addon, but tortoise always says at a specific image "400 bad request (http://dew.wowace.com)" |
| 17:42.39 | Ani| | anyone knows why? :< |
| 17:42.57 | axxo | learn to type |
| 17:42.58 | aE|neXter | try dev instead of dew |
| 17:43.00 | Kemayo | Now, someone just needs to rewrite it to not use AceGUI, and... |
| 17:43.02 | Silviu- | Ani| it is dev.wowace.com |
| 17:43.33 | Ani| | just a type in irc, in tortoise its dev ^^ |
| 17:43.55 | Ani| | miss*type |
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| 17:45.39 | Kemayo | I still have Ace1 and AceGUI installed purely for BulkMail. It's sad. |
| 17:45.46 | Ani| | tried it now 4 times, always the same error |
| 17:45.48 | alcaras | i reversed engineered naked damage! :P |
| 17:45.48 | alcaras | ftw |
| 17:46.04 | alcaras | http://ace.pastey.net/3898 |
| 17:47.12 | kergoth | i think i've lost my old addon release python script :\ |
| 17:47.15 | kergoth | damnit |
| 17:47.39 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r21834 10Bits/Bits/Bits-1.0/Bits-1.0.lua: |
| 17:47.39 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 17:47.39 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.59 | Ani| | no one knows why this stupid image won't upload? :/ |
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| 17:50.25 | KarlThePagan | comment on the usefulness of "Bits" here - http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3689.0 |
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| 17:52.08 | mjc | Ani|: you need to format your commit message |
| 17:52.13 | mjc | Ani|: AddOnName: foo |
| 17:52.31 | mjc | kergoth: doh |
| 17:52.51 | mjc | kergoth: still wanted a script to actually svk cp the externals into the appropriate libs folders (not as standalones) |
| 17:53.10 | pastamancer | Ani|: try again |
| 17:53.15 | mjc | so that I can make zip releases where all mods that arent ModName_* will work wihtout dependencies if the person decides to pick and choose |
| 17:53.37 | mjc | currently doing a svn co before I 7zip and ignoring .svn dirs |
| 17:54.12 | Ani| | still won't work |
| 17:54.42 | mjc | Ani|: shrug, talk to KaeltenAway |
| 17:54.43 | beerke | With cartographer mining, can tooltips be merged if 2 differnet veins can spawn at the same spot ? Now i got a mithril vein and a dio vein on the smae spot |
| 17:55.38 | pastamancer | Ani|: are you going through a proxy? |
| 17:56.20 | Ani| | nope, committed other files succesfully, only this stupid file won't work |
| 17:57.00 | kergoth | mjc: addonco -should- be working |
| 17:57.08 | pastamancer | SoulTransfer.tga? |
| 17:57.10 | kergoth | i'm gonna combine the addon set tools into one with real fucking commandline options |
| 17:57.31 | Ani| | SoulTRansfer.tga sould be deleted, it's renamed to SoulKeeper.tga |
| 17:57.40 | Ominous | in a local _, _, name, tname = string.find("Name (Target's Name)","(.+) ((.+))") how do you make it so the first variable is only 1 word |
| 17:58.22 | axxo | change .+ with [^ ]+ |
| 17:58.35 | Neebler | I sent in an application to become a member to the Optimist's Club...but I don't think they'll accept me |
| 17:58.52 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@72-17-187-154.ftl.fdn.com) |
| 17:58.52 | kergoth | or better yet, [^%s]+ |
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| 17:59.04 | yacoob | do all hexes stack? |
| 17:59.17 | Ominous | axxo: thanks |
| 17:59.18 | yacoob | er, sorry, wrong # :D |
| 17:59.29 | Ominous | thanks |
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| 18:00.24 | kergoth | Ominous: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 18:00.41 | Gnarfoz | Neebler: clever ;) |
| 18:01.41 | Ominous | kergoth: thanks, can never find that page when i need it |
| 18:03.00 | kergoth | lua.org -> documentation -> reference manual -> String Manipulation |
| 18:03.03 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:03.11 | pastamancer | Ani|: for some reason it's not showing you as authenticated for those copy attempts |
| 18:03.46 | Soulless | anybody here use firefox 2.0? |
| 18:03.50 | kergoth | yes |
| 18:03.54 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r21835 10Acolyte/Images/ (SoulKeeper.tga SoulTransfer.tga): Acolyte: for some reason, gits is unable to rename SoulTransfer.tga to SoulKeeper.tga |
| 18:04.34 | Amadeo | AdBlock Plus is what keeps me using Firefox |
| 18:04.36 | Amadeo | that's it |
| 18:04.58 | pastamancer | adblock and firebug do it for me |
| 18:05.17 | Soulless | kergoth: is it buggy? cuz im thinking of upgrading all my 1.5.0.9 ones |
| 18:05.40 | nevcairiel | its working fine |
| 18:06.14 | kergoth | its solid, and performs better |
| 18:06.16 | Soulless | aight |
| 18:06.28 | Soulless | do 1.5 extensions work with it? |
| 18:06.40 | kergoth | no, but pretty much everything has been updated |
| 18:06.51 | Soulless | hmmm, ok |
| 18:06.54 | Garoun|Loupana | 2.0 has built in spellcheck on type.. that alone is worth the update |
| 18:06.57 | kergoth | itll go out and find newer versions of them all when you first run it |
| 18:07.30 | Amadeo | Lots of people seem to like spellcheck lately |
| 18:07.32 | sylvanaar | an anchor defined in a frame which doesnt include a relative-to, or relative to point, that implies the parent frame and the same framepoint - correct? |
| 18:07.44 | JoshBork2 | sylvanaar: yes |
| 18:07.48 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 18:07.52 | kergoth | anyone tried nRaidTracker? it any good? |
| 18:09.14 | Ominous | hmm i cant get it to work, if i use axxo or kergoth's solution it jsut comes out as (targets name) (targets name) as both vatiables |
| 18:09.55 | mjc | kergoth: it updates, but it doesn't put stuff in libs |
| 18:09.56 | mjc | :( |
| 18:10.07 | kergoth | thats odd, it does for me |
| 18:10.37 | Garoun|Loupana | slyv: it's helped my typing considerably :P |
| 18:11.14 | kergoth | Ominous: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
| 18:11.19 | CIA-17 | 03gits * r21836 10Acolyte/ (10 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:11.19 | CIA-17 | Acolyte: update |
| 18:11.19 | CIA-17 | - added Felguard to minion list |
| 18:11.20 | CIA-17 | - added check if the player got a specific spell (if not the spellname will be in red color) |
| 18:11.20 | CIA-17 | - added option to let the popups drop down to the left side |
| 18:11.20 | CIA-17 | - added option to chance the number of shards Acolyte will warn you |
| 18:11.22 | CIA-17 | - renamed SoulTransfer to Soulkeeper (canceled some ideas...)Acolyte: |
| 18:11.52 | Ani| | ah.. now it works |
| 18:11.56 | kergoth | mjc: did you change the Config.standalones to False in kergsvk/config.py? if not, itll be making sure you have standalones rather than copying into libs |
| 18:12.06 | Ani| | thanks pastamancer :) |
| 18:12.09 | mjc | yes I did |
| 18:12.34 | kergoth | dunno then, i use it every time i release an addon without trouble. addonco //mirror/wowace/trunk/kEnergy = a local checkout + external libs for release |
| 18:12.34 | vid` | hmm |
| 18:12.38 | Ominous | put an option not to show the name on my stun bars and therefor split the text which is StunName (targer) into 2 parts of StunName and Taget |
| 18:12.39 | vid` | anyone used Combat Hide Tooltip ? |
| 18:12.49 | pastamancer | Ani|: no problem :) |
| 18:12.50 | vid` | and know if it works with fubar to hide the popup fubar tooltips in combat? |
| 18:13.34 | Ani| | needed to delete al, donwload from server and then commit new... (it was saying my folders are out of date after your change) |
| 18:14.22 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r21837 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_DropdownMenu.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): |
| 18:14.22 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 18:14.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.14 | JoshBork2 | ag`: woohoo! |
| 18:16.26 | alcaras | now just party targets! |
| 18:16.33 | alcaras | and aguf is perfection incarnate |
| 18:17.02 | ag` | don't really know how I should impliment party targets |
| 18:17.12 | alcaras | optional add in? |
| 18:17.14 | ag` | because I can easily do it as just another 5 unit frames |
| 18:17.19 | alcaras | how perl_party targets does? not sure |
| 18:17.26 | ag` | but I think that would be way too resource hungry |
| 18:17.39 | alcaras | optional add in so folks who don't want it can disable it, i would say |
| 18:17.52 | ag` | all 5 frames would have to be updated at an interval |
| 18:17.55 | ag` | I don't like that |
| 18:18.02 | alcaras | not sure |
| 18:18.06 | sbu | hmm partytargets - just use ora2 PTs? |
| 18:18.10 | alcaras | might be worth taking a look at perl party targets |
| 18:18.18 | pastamancer | yeah, it would be just like the tot and totot frames |
| 18:19.48 | kergoth | ora2 pts rock |
| 18:20.04 | alcaras | kergoth: can i use it with ora2? |
| 18:20.11 | sbu | kergoth: ack! |
| 18:23.16 | alcaras | err without* |
| 18:23.17 | sbu | err - no? :p |
| 18:23.17 | alcaras | are they MT frames? |
| 18:23.17 | alcaras | or do they auto set up? |
| 18:23.17 | alcaras | or would i have to set it up somehow for every party i join? do they work outside of raids? |
| 18:23.17 | alcaras | wtb ora screenshot |
| 18:23.17 | sbu | hmm yep, i think ora2 MT copy&paste |
| 18:23.17 | sbu | no auto setup |
| 18:23.17 | sbu | you set them just like MT targets |
| 18:23.17 | alcaras | then yeah, that wouldn't work very well as party targets |
| 18:23.17 | sbu | but only for you - not shared/something else |
| 18:23.17 | alcaras | the benefit of party targets is mostly in pvp |
| 18:23.18 | alcaras | did perfecttargets ever get 2.0'd? |
| 18:23.18 | alcaras | it's a decent holderover until party targets come about |
| 18:23.18 | alcaras | ag`: i know you are busy, just wondering if the diff file i attached here (not my work, someone from ace forums) might bump up the arrival time on 2d portraits: http://code.google.com/p/agunitframes/issues/detail?id=75&can=2&q= |
| 18:23.43 | Ominous | Kergoth: any ideas to my problem? as i cant work it out |
| 18:23.56 | kergoth | perfecttargets works in 2.0, but as with most similar addons, can not be clicked on to target anymore, since it isnt secure |
| 18:24.21 | alcaras | kergoth: ah, that is useful for notification but defeats the point of easy assisting |
| 18:24.26 | alcaras | unless you can /assist on a variable? |
| 18:24.27 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:24.32 | kergoth | dont think so |
| 18:24.36 | alcaras | aye, nor do i |
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| 18:24.47 | kergoth | Ominous: give me an example of the text you're trying to match and what you expect to get out of it |
| 18:25.27 | kergoth | i've been having a hell of a time dealing with assisting sanely since 2.0, used ot use smartassist and/or perfecttargets, but now i'm back relegated to a crappy assist macro |
| 18:25.30 | kergoth | ah well |
| 18:25.34 | Ominous | kergoth: ohh just worked it out, but ty |
| 18:25.38 | kergoth | np |
| 18:25.47 | SoLoR | anyone from tempest keep EU beta? |
| 18:26.11 | Ominous | solor : yea |
| 18:26.18 | Ominous | but the beta client isnt on this pc |
| 18:26.22 | SoLoR | :( |
| 18:26.31 | SoLoR | nvm then :P |
| 18:26.40 | SoLoR | gathering pro pug for grull :) |
| 18:26.46 | SoLoR | "pro" :( |
| 18:26.52 | Ominous | hehe |
| 18:27.15 | Ominous | what server do u normally play on? |
| 18:27.19 | SoLoR | kazzak |
| 18:27.21 | Fisker- | oh man |
| 18:27.24 | Fisker- | if only i had my forum account |
| 18:27.34 | Fisker- | Could've made the BEST troll post ever |
| 18:27.57 | Fisker- | "Who are these Silvermoon folks, and why the fuck am i exalted with them?" |
| 18:27.58 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:28.15 | KarlThePagan | lol |
| 18:28.17 | Fisker- | 14000 rep to go btw |
| 18:28.18 | KarlThePagan | yay for AV |
| 18:28.29 | Kirkburn | SoLoR, you're on Tempest Keep EU? |
| 18:28.32 | Fisker- | 15000 if we consider max exalted as well :P |
| 18:28.46 | Ominous | is anyone here from stormrage eu? |
| 18:28.52 | CIA-17 | 03gits * r21838 10Acolyte/Modules/ (SoulKeeper.lua SoulTransfer.lua): |
| 18:28.52 | CIA-17 | Acolyte: |
| 18:28.52 | CIA-17 | - just forgot a file... |
| 18:29.15 | Fisker- | anyone got a torrent for a dummy file? |
| 18:29.23 | Fisker- | need to check some download |
| 18:29.23 | SoLoR | Kirkburn ye |
| 18:31.03 | pastamancer | Saroz: ping |
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| 18:32.49 | xlvii | when i have no one to talk to, i come to #wowace |
| 18:32.49 | xlvii | always some decent conversation going on here. |
| 18:33.24 | Fisker- | give me all your raep |
| 18:33.48 | vid` | ooh wow nice someone is working on an ace'd theorycraft |
| 18:33.53 | vid` | drdamage |
| 18:35.00 | Fisker- | caster only though :( |
| 18:35.28 | Ominous | i know this is a nooby question but in lua is there a way to do not equal without not variable == strubg as i know in java there is != |
| 18:35.36 | alcaras | ~= |
| 18:36.08 | Ominous | thanks |
| 18:36.46 | Fisker- | damn i knew that one :( |
| 18:36.57 | Fisker- | my epenis shrunk a bit |
| 18:37.03 | alcaras | i asked it only this morning :p |
| 18:37.04 | ggilbert | Ominous: I highly recommend checking out http://www.lua.org/pil/ if you're new to the language |
| 18:37.07 | alcaras | so was glad to answer :) |
| 18:37.38 | xlvii | does anyone have a wii? if so, are they worth buying? i have never been hardcore into nintendo games. |
| 18:37.49 | Ominous | i have read through that but i was tired when i did it and missed some parts |
| 18:37.56 | kenlyric | we just had one at my festivus party. |
| 18:37.58 | kenlyric | a lot of fun. |
| 18:38.25 | kenlyric | very much a party gaming system. |
| 18:38.41 | alcaras | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus |
| 18:38.53 | Fisker- | lol you can kick an aimed shot? |
| 18:39.04 | odt | a friend of mine bought it |
| 18:39.08 | odt | the wii i mean |
| 18:39.21 | odt | was somewhat disappointed with the graphics compared to xbox 360 |
| 18:39.25 | odt | and also the lack of fun games |
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| 18:39.46 | kenlyric | screw that... boxing is fun :) |
| 18:40.18 | odt | so is tekken on a ps2 |
| 18:40.23 | odt | :) |
| 18:40.41 | vid` | http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4443&Itemid=2 |
| 18:40.42 | vid` | wow |
| 18:40.57 | vid` | microsoft ups 360 warr to 1 year and is refunding everyone who's paid for repairs already? :P |
| 18:41.01 | vid` | damn thats gotta be a lot of money |
| 18:41.18 | alcaras | microsoft doesn't lack for money... |
| 18:41.39 | vid` | still though |
| 18:42.42 | mjc | they were already selling the machines at a loss last I Checked |
| 18:43.48 | vid` | cant wait for stalker, coming out soon FINALLY |
| 18:43.50 | vid` | http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/480/480467/img_3868136.html |
| 18:43.52 | vid` | looks pretty sick |
| 18:44.38 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: ping |
| 18:45.00 | KarlThePagan | yo |
| 18:45.14 | pastamancer | ipairs({...}) is bad :( |
| 18:45.14 | KarlThePagan | yo pastamancer |
| 18:45.24 | KarlThePagan | yea iriel gave me a tip |
| 18:45.30 | pastamancer | for i = 1,select("#", ...) do |
| 18:45.50 | Amadeo | festivus, rofl |
| 18:45.57 | KarlThePagan | v = select(i-1,...) ? |
| 18:46.05 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork2 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 18:46.25 | pastamancer | v = select(i, ...) |
| 18:46.41 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 18:46.41 | pastamancer | lua starts at 1 |
| 18:46.50 | KarlThePagan | yea docs on select are confusing then |
| 18:46.57 | KarlThePagan | says "after index" |
| 18:46.59 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 18:47.41 | vid` | h mmm |
| 18:47.44 | vid` | 144MB patch |
| 18:47.44 | KarlThePagan | she also said use tail recursion in DeHash - in lua is tail recursion that effective? |
| 18:47.52 | pastamancer | ohgodyes |
| 18:47.57 | KarlThePagan | sweet |
| 18:48.08 | pastamancer | tailcall = no stack overhead |
| 18:48.50 | KarlThePagan | longjump... i did that stuff in assembly and operating systems ;) |
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| 18:49.07 | KarlThePagan | if java had vararg return... bleh |
| 18:49.16 | KarlThePagan | it's varargs is just an array hack anyways |
| 18:49.18 | Kirkburn | vid`, for what? |
| 18:49.20 | KarlThePagan | lua's is much much better |
| 18:49.25 | vid` | no idea |
| 18:49.26 | vid` | for wow |
| 18:49.28 | pastamancer | return new Vector( :p ); |
| 18:49.28 | KarlThePagan | Kirkburn, blizz background downloader |
| 18:49.32 | vid` | its downloading 144mb |
| 18:49.34 | vid` | for something |
| 18:49.37 | Kirkburn | oh |
| 18:50.01 | ggilbert | Hopefully it's downloading my fixed shoulder art :p |
| 18:50.02 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, ick arraylist at least :P |
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| 18:50.25 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: I only abuse java, not actually develop in it |
| 18:51.13 | KarlThePagan | yea I'm the anti-abuser at work ;) |
| 18:51.13 | pastamancer | you should see the horrible things I've done with jpcap |
| 18:51.21 | sergio | anyone know offhand which ace mod has av timers |
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| 18:51.27 | KarlThePagan | Capping sergio |
| 18:51.29 | KarlThePagan | it rules |
| 18:51.29 | sergio | thanks |
| 18:51.52 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, oh i'm scared... but jpcap is an interesting project |
| 18:51.55 | Grine | AKX, plix fix the namebug in chattr >.< |
| 18:51.58 | sergio | I assume bg stuff is out of Chronometer's scope |
| 18:52.01 | KarlThePagan | are you connected to it in any way pasta? |
| 18:52.14 | AKX | Oh yeah, I should, Grine. :D |
| 18:52.23 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: no, I just abuse it - http://eqitems.13th-floor.org/download/src/ |
| 18:52.28 | KarlThePagan | I've just recently started working on methods to have zerocopy data transfer from C libraries to the JVM |
| 18:52.33 | KarlThePagan | ah |
| 18:52.45 | Grine | AKX, :) also get a release version of DreamChat done! |
| 18:52.52 | Grine | (could've worked) |
| 18:53.08 | pastamancer | and I'm serious when I say "abuse" |
| 18:53.16 | KarlThePagan | lol |
| 18:53.16 | sylvanaar | oh i have another anchor question. If you anchor using a side like top, given no other anchors are the two elements centered horizontally? |
| 18:53.32 | Grine | sylvanaar, HUH!? |
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| 18:54.16 | KarlThePagan | hey pastamancer how could I redo Bits:Get to avoid all table creation? |
| 18:54.18 | AKX | Yeah, btw... I do need a working SVN account too. |
| 18:54.32 | sylvanaar | if i put a frame on the screen ans set an anchor TOP to another frame's BOTTOM how are the left and right points of my frame determined |
| 18:55.08 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: hmm, lemme look |
| 18:55.10 | VII|Beherit | any shaman could help me |
| 18:55.19 | VII|Beherit | need an itemrack event for shaman ghost wolf |
| 18:55.54 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, OH i think i know |
| 18:56.07 | KarlThePagan | do a select and start at the end working forward thru the stack |
| 18:56.24 | KarlThePagan | hmm |
| 18:56.35 | KarlThePagan | err forward thru varargs |
| 18:57.00 | pastamancer | yeah, select and ... kinda let you fake a linked list |
| 18:57.14 | sylvanaar | or did i misunderstand the meaning of TOP. is TOP TOPLEFT and TOPRIGHT |
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| 18:57.56 | alcaras | top is not topleft nor topright |
| 18:58.18 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, would getting local references to all the bitlib functions that I use be more efficient? |
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| 18:58.35 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: yeah |
| 18:58.41 | KarlThePagan | k that's an easy fix |
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| 19:00.24 | odt | what's the command to configure coolDown? |
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| 19:00.54 | KarlThePagan | ... what do I do on my day off? I code... lol |
| 19:01.17 | alcaras | KarlThePagan: i finished exams the other day |
| 19:01.23 | Bver | whats the mapmod called that removes the fog? |
| 19:01.24 | alcaras | and decided to code today |
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| 19:01.27 | alcaras | go ... figure? |
| 19:01.34 | alcaras | Bver: cartographer can |
| 19:01.39 | Bver | ok |
| 19:01.41 | Bver | thanks |
| 19:02.03 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: http://ace.pastey.net/3899 something like that |
| 19:02.11 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r21839 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (Core.lua StunTimerFu.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - added option to not show target name |
| 19:03.38 | Bver | blizzard is ok with mods that remove the fog of war type discovery? |
| 19:04.00 | KarlThePagan | thx pasta |
| 19:04.04 | alcaras | yes, in so far that they haven't blocked it |
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| 19:04.24 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: there's room for improvement there, but I don't have lua 5.1 handy atm |
| 19:05.03 | KarlThePagan | no problem... i get the idea |
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| 19:06.04 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer - I'm using scite with 5.1 |
| 19:06.29 | KarlThePagan | if you want details of the particulars I put it up on the scite download on wowi |
| 19:06.48 | ruinna | anyone know how i might update my dev svn password? seems as though i've lost access.. |
| 19:06.58 | pastamancer | I don't use scite |
| 19:07.12 | KarlThePagan | kk ;) |
| 19:07.26 | kergoth | VII|Beherit: isnt there an addon to add itemrack events for any buff? ghost wolf is a buff. use that |
| 19:10.16 | VII|Beherit | sec |
| 19:11.15 | Mikma | nevcairiel: LOL http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5501/bartender3/ |
| 19:11.47 | sbu | Mikma! \o/ |
| 19:11.57 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: you'll probably want to benchmark the recursive Bits:Get vs. one using a temp table |
| 19:12.00 | Mikma | no word mentioned about nevcairiel there |
| 19:12.17 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, yea |
| 19:12.18 | sbu | wtf is nevcairiel? :p |
| 19:12.32 | Fisker- | well he doesn't really take credit for it himself |
| 19:12.49 | Mikma | he doesn't have to since he wrote the fucking addon |
| 19:13.33 | Fisker- | i'm talking about the curse guy not nevcairiel |
| 19:14.05 | VII|Beherit | kergoth: i cant find a documentation how to script things in itemrack |
| 19:14.12 | Mikma | Fisker-: putting it with your account and not saying that "this dude did it" is taking credit |
| 19:14.47 | Mikma | well, let's just see what nevcairiel says when he wakes ujp |
| 19:14.50 | Mikma | nevcairiel: right? |
| 19:14.50 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:15.12 | yacoob | Nevcairiel begins to cast Holy Wrath (Rank 666) |
| 19:15.12 | Amadeo | I agree with Mikma, that's pretty lame |
| 19:15.33 | Fisker- | not in the way he does it Mikma |
| 19:15.35 | Mikma | nevcairiel: good morning |
| 19:15.44 | nevcairiel | its 8 pm |
| 19:15.47 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: although, a temp table would mean that Bits:Get wouldn't be reentrant |
| 19:15.56 | Mikma | Fisker-: i can't see "nevcairiel coded this addon" anywhere |
| 19:16.24 | pastamancer | as such: http://ace.pastey.net/3900 |
| 19:16.40 | Fisker- | he links to nevcairiel 's site |
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| 19:17.11 | nevcairiel | i am still going to have it removed. |
| 19:17.15 | Mikma | Fisker-: and? people don't click links to other sites that often |
| 19:17.21 | Mikma | nevcairiel: good. |
| 19:17.41 | Fisker- | people don't read that shit that often either |
| 19:17.52 | nevcairiel | if those curse guys just wake up |
| 19:18.00 | pastamancer | heh, people don't read |
| 19:18.04 | Werik|ZZz | I can see it, sec, i'm writing a mail:) |
| 19:18.14 | Amadeo | "You have entered too many instances recently" |
| 19:18.15 | Amadeo | wtf is that? |
| 19:18.18 | Fisker- | you're sleeping damnit |
| 19:18.22 | Fisker- | instance limit Amadeo |
| 19:18.24 | Gnarfoz | Amadeo: more than 5 instances per hour |
| 19:18.26 | Fisker- | 5 an hour |
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| 19:18.34 | Amadeo | are you f'ing serious? |
| 19:18.36 | Fisker- | yes |
| 19:18.39 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:18.41 | Fisker- | f'ing serious indeed |
| 19:18.42 | Amadeo | that's really stupid |
| 19:18.42 | nevcairiel | you didnt know? |
| 19:18.45 | Gnarfoz | been like that for about a year now? |
| 19:18.45 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 19:18.46 | Amadeo | no, never heard of it |
| 19:18.58 | Amadeo | a year? no it hasn't |
| 19:19.08 | nevcairiel | not that much |
| 19:19.09 | Fisker- | the reason they did it is because it had a great effect on the server performance |
| 19:19.10 | kovi | more than 9 months at least |
| 19:19.13 | nevcairiel | but half a year at least |
| 19:19.14 | yacoob | half a year more like it. |
| 19:19.31 | Amadeo | that's really lame |
| 19:19.35 | kovi | i remember they put that in cause ppl farmed dm for that quel'serrar book like crazy |
| 19:19.37 | kovi | :O |
| 19:19.38 | Fisker- | it was some months after DM was released |
| 19:19.48 | Fisker- | perhaps only a month or so |
| 19:19.59 | Fisker- | but i don't think it made the patchnotes since it was a hotfix |
| 19:20.00 | KarlThePagan | pastamancer, how would Get need to be reentrant? |
| 19:20.04 | kovi | na longer than a month after dm |
| 19:20.05 | Amadeo | I see |
| 19:20.09 | kovi | but can't remember when exactly |
| 19:20.10 | kovi | :x |
| 19:20.11 | Werik|ZZz | mkay |
| 19:20.12 | KarlThePagan | coroutines? |
| 19:20.31 | pastamancer | KarlThePagan: magic? *shrug* |
| 19:20.33 | alcaras | what's a good ace addon to see which trinkets are currently equipped? |
| 19:20.47 | KarlThePagan | multithreaded WoW UI's GO! |
| 19:20.59 | alcaras | closetgnome got rid of itemrack's little bar so... |
| 19:21.32 | pastamancer | actually, coroutines have their own lua state, so the second version is probably going to be faster |
| 19:22.01 | pastamancer | and I always forget that lua is single-threaded |
| 19:22.01 | KarlThePagan | you mean temp table eh? |
| 19:22.05 | pastamancer | yeah, 3900 |
| 19:22.21 | pastamancer | 3899 is prettier though |
| 19:26.18 | sylvanaar | ok so i dont really see any docs which explain the meaning of binding only one side then |
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| 19:28.58 | sylvanaar | also, can i access the fontstrings in SMF |
| 19:29.07 | sylvanaar | never tried before |
| 19:29.40 | Gnarfoz | anyone using smartsvn? |
| 19:30.24 | Kirkburn | Btw, just a general notice - if you've not found out already, the WoWWiki has it's own IRC channel these days - #wowwiki :) |
| 19:30.50 | sylvanaar | you telling me cause i just added something |
| 19:30.53 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, are they singing The Sound of Music? |
| 19:30.53 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 19:32.58 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn: teh hills are alive ! |
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| 19:33.29 | CrisCrOss | Helloo, |
| 19:33.36 | CrisCrOss | is the Creator of Bagnon here? |
| 19:33.43 | kergoth | VII|Beherit: i was talking about http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4726-ItemRackBuffEventMaker.html |
| 19:33.52 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, roughly translated from chirrup chirrup chirrup? |
| 19:34.02 | Kirkburn | CrisCrOss, Tuller |
| 19:34.28 | CrisCrOss | ye is he in.. |
| 19:34.30 | Tuller | CrisCrOss: hrm? |
| 19:34.38 | CrisCrOss | hello.. |
| 19:34.45 | CrisCrOss | im curious regarding your addon |
| 19:34.55 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: I love smartsvn |
| 19:34.56 | CrisCrOss | you know how you have those little thing Quest/Trash/Weapon |
| 19:35.05 | CrisCrOss | is it possible to add our own? |
| 19:35.13 | Tuller | little thing being... |
| 19:35.21 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: is it normal that it does not 'get' if an addon has externals defined? |
| 19:35.24 | CrisCrOss | consumable |
| 19:35.35 | CrisCrOss | like food/potions/bandages |
| 19:35.47 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: I'm not sure I understand |
| 19:36.04 | CrisCrOss | is it easy to add? |
| 19:36.13 | Tuller | CrisCrOss: right click one of the categories |
| 19:36.30 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: it fetches them fine, but afterwards if I go into the menu to 'edit externals', it does not show any externals as defined |
| 19:37.11 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: externals show up just fine for me. are you sure you're editing the properties on the right folder? |
| 19:37.40 | Gnarfoz | hm, I will check on that as soon as it's finished building the log cache |
| 19:37.44 | CrisCrOss | ohh thanks Tuller |
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| 19:37.55 | CrisCrOss | thats very nifty |
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| 19:40.31 | Tuller | the categories should have had tooltips to tell you about that :P |
| 19:47.00 | markv | hmm, anyone know what lvl you need to be to tame the rathe in mulgore? |
| 19:47.41 | markv | or is it not worth bothering to go there to tame that guy anymore with all the pet chnges? |
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| 19:52.08 | KarlThePagan | damn these horde... they interrupt my coding |
| 19:52.20 | yacoob | They're NOT PREPARED! |
| 19:52.42 | kenlyric | markv, what kind ofpet is rathe and what does he do special? |
| 19:53.01 | Kirkburn | Your mom was not prepared! |
| 19:53.22 | Kirkburn | Rake |
| 19:53.28 | Kirkburn | I think he means The Rake |
| 19:53.37 | yacoob | In russia preparation isn't you! |
| 19:53.45 | yacoob | ...wait, no... |
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| 19:53.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:54.05 | ckknight | what IRC client should I use for Mac? |
| 19:54.08 | pastamancer | irssi! |
| 19:54.12 | ckknight | srsly? |
| 19:54.27 | ckknight | btw, I got a new mac |
| 19:54.28 | pastamancer | well, I use it via ssh -> screen |
| 19:54.29 | ckknight | it's shiny. |
| 19:54.41 | pastamancer | but I still think irssi is one of the best irc clients out there |
| 19:54.50 | kenlyric | ok, what does The Rake do? |
| 19:54.55 | pastamancer | you could also run xchat if that's more your thing |
| 19:54.58 | kenlyric | is he pretty? |
| 19:55.11 | Amadeo | Isn't there a Mac client based on irssi that has a GUI? |
| 19:55.13 | yacoob | ckknight, you can try Colloquy |
| 19:55.18 | Amadeo | that's it |
| 19:55.20 | yacoob | Amadeo, there was, it failed miserably |
| 19:55.25 | Tain | Man Friday before Christmas weekend at work sucks. |
| 19:55.26 | yacoob | no, it isn't based on irssi |
| 19:55.29 | kenlyric | ircII all the way, baby! |
| 19:55.33 | yacoob | (AFAIK) |
| 19:55.41 | yacoob | ckknight, besides, http://osx.iusethis.com/user/yacoob |
| 19:55.41 | ckknight | U kujed XChat when I ran Windows... |
| 19:55.46 | ckknight | gah |
| 19:55.48 | ckknight | I liked* |
| 19:55.53 | yacoob | ckknight, nice site to find osx apps |
| 19:55.53 | pastamancer | then go get xchat |
| 19:55.55 | KaeltenAway | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.11 | Amadeo | yacoob: I think it used to use irssi, maybe not anymore |
| 19:56.17 | pastamancer | KaeltenAway: yo |
| 19:56.18 | KaeltenAway | pastamancer: I got intellitxt to disable the cookie part of their script |
| 19:56.25 | Kirkburn | kenlyric, http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Rake |
| 19:56.26 | pastamancer | KaeltenAway: woot |
| 19:56.41 | KaeltenAway | pastamancer: so if you want to take another stab at setting up squid, go far it :) |
| 19:56.46 | Tain | I like irssi but it was going to be so much work to figure out how to comfigure it the way I have bx configured over the years. |
| 19:56.56 | ckknight | yacoob, so what IRC client do you use? |
| 19:56.56 | pastamancer | KaeltenAway: after the holidays :) |
| 19:57.04 | KaeltenAway | pastamancer: kk :) |
| 19:57.18 | yacoob | ckknight, irssi :D |
| 19:57.26 | yacoob | ckknight, I was using OSX for, like, 2 weeks |
| 19:57.33 | pastamancer | KaeltenAway: squid will make things so sexay |
| 19:57.44 | Grine | squid? O_o |
| 19:57.56 | yacoob | ckknight, but if I had osx, I'd be using Colloquy, connecting to my session of irssi, via ssh tunnel |
| 19:57.59 | Amadeo | I'm trying to find some Win32 builds of irssi |
| 19:58.02 | yacoob | (that was practical application of applescript :) |
| 19:58.11 | ckknight | okay, brb |
| 19:58.25 | pastamancer | Grine: reverse proxy caching php generated pages for non-authenticated users ;) |
| 19:58.40 | kergoth | yacoob: pfft, use bip. great irc proxy with ssl and replay and stuff |
| 19:58.41 | Grine | pastamancer, you lost me at reverse... |
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| 20:03.20 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/files/ | TBC Guilds: PvE - CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | It's Ace, not ACE. Ace is not an acronym | Everyone should get !BugGrabber and BugSack |
| 20:03.27 | Kemayo | I tried irssi... but I realized that I was going to spend several weeks tweaking it until it behaved about how weechat does, so... |
| 20:03.42 | ckknight | WeeChat? |
| 20:03.54 | Kemayo | It's one of the console-mode irc clients. |
| 20:03.59 | ckknight | ah |
| 20:04.06 | Amadeo | brb |
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| 20:04.43 | Ordog | a tcl scripted client is really nice |
| 20:05.23 | Kemayo | pastamancer: I also keep gaim-text running under screen. :D |
| 20:05.52 | Ordog | any of those capable of perl or tcl are fine if you ask me, put a prise of easy menu config on top and im happy :) |
| 20:05.52 | yacoob | what's nice in tcl? :D |
| 20:06.05 | Ordog | hehe |
| 20:06.30 | Kemayo | (Actually, that said, for IMs Adium in OSX is truly awesome. I would use it more if I could.) |
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| 20:07.24 | yacoob | it is nice, yeah |
| 20:07.40 | yacoob | the only problem I've got with it, it wasn't able to change its icon. |
| 20:08.08 | pastamancer | time to flee |
| 20:08.21 | kenlyric | sorry if I missed earlier, but yeah, unless you like his look, there is no reason to train the Rake over any other cat. |
| 20:08.37 | Soulless | anybody know if warden is in the osx client?> |
| 20:08.42 | ckknight | brb |
| 20:08.52 | kenlyric | yes, it is. |
| 20:08.54 | alcaras | kenlyric: 1.3 atk spd got normalized? |
| 20:09.00 | alcaras | it is 2.0 for all pets now? |
| 20:09.02 | kenlyric | all attack speed got normalized. |
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| 20:09.08 | kenlyric | yes, all pets are 2.0 |
| 20:09.39 | Amadeo | I was disappointed with that change |
| 20:09.41 | Kemayo | So there's now no reason to hunt down any of the rare pets for reasons beside looks? |
| 20:09.49 | kenlyric | right. |
| 20:10.01 | kenlyric | And the rare pets that don't have rare looks, like broken tooth, nobody could want. |
| 20:10.04 | Amadeo | but there are more pets with new abilities now, at least |
| 20:10.11 | kenlyric | though, rare pets generally can get you new skills earlier. |
| 20:10.12 | Amadeo | like Warp Hunters (soon) |
| 20:10.17 | Amadeo | those are insane |
| 20:10.39 | Amadeo | My pick as best PvP pet I've seen so far |
| 20:10.40 | kenlyric | I like the change... it opens up your options a little more. |
| 20:10.56 | kenlyric | like, for grinding, it was silly to get any other pet besides broken tooth. |
| 20:11.26 | Kemayo | I'm all for it not being practically required to camp some rare pet to be as effective as possible. |
| 20:11.27 | Tain | I can't remember how many times I killed Broken Tooth while levelling as a non-hunter. |
| 20:11.44 | kenlyric | so now you can get any color style cat and have it be as effective. |
| 20:12.23 | Tain | Even mauve? |
| 20:12.27 | kenlyric | I'd say now that a vulture is the best pet for grinding. |
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| 20:12.51 | phyber | anyone know the name of the boxes (or how i'd find them) that the items are in in the Inspection Frame? (Can't check wdb.wowi since it's down) |
| 20:12.51 | Neebler | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6007-Nexii.html |
| 20:12.57 | phyber | s/wdb/wdn/ |
| 20:12.59 | Neebler | woot another game addon |
| 20:13.10 | ckknight | ah |
| 20:13.14 | ckknight | now this is nice |
| 20:13.54 | Amadeo | What's that, ckknight? |
| 20:13.56 | Mikma | ckknight: what? |
| 20:14.03 | ckknight | Colloquy |
| 20:14.08 | ckknight | with the tabbed interface dealy |
| 20:14.21 | ckknight | one thing is that I can't seem to find a way to colors your names distinctly |
| 20:14.23 | ckknight | you're all orange |
| 20:14.36 | Mikma | some irc-software? |
| 20:14.41 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:14.45 | ckknight | I got a mac, Mikma |
| 20:14.51 | ckknight | it is strange and confusing |
| 20:14.56 | Mikma | ckknight: what? you + mac? :D |
| 20:15.01 | ckknight | yep. |
| 20:15.27 | Mikma | ckknight: http://mikma.reaktio.net/osx/ :) |
| 20:15.55 | ckknight | cool |
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| 20:18.20 | phreaky | Anyone knows if there is an addon that u can add words to ignore whispers that include them? For example ignore http or www to ignore whole whispers that include that? |
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| 20:19.57 | sylvanaar | maybe /dev/null im not sure |
| 20:20.34 | phreaky | okey |
| 20:20.34 | Gnarfoz | hmm I can't seem to find the SVN sandbox... there _was_ such a thing and I'm not just imaginging things, right? |
| 20:21.04 | sylvanaar | maybe not |
| 20:21.13 | sylvanaar | there are some on curse i guess |
| 20:21.19 | sylvanaar | i have seen a few |
| 20:22.35 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: it exists |
| 20:22.45 | sylvanaar | ckknight: is there any way to add scoping to aceevents? ie limit their availability |
| 20:22.55 | Gnarfoz | it's neither in trunk, branches or tags... :\ |
| 20:22.55 | ckknight | sylvanaar: what do you mean? |
| 20:23.09 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: it's in sandbox, up one level from wowace |
| 20:23.17 | Gnarfoz | argh ^_^ |
| 20:23.20 | kergoth | Gnarfoz: its a seperate repo, not in the wowace repo |
| 20:23.21 | sylvanaar | ckknight: easy case would be AceModuleCore derived objects |
| 20:23.24 | kergoth | intentionally seperated to avoid damage |
| 20:23.53 | Soulless | ckknight: you ever tried xchat? |
| 20:24.03 | ckknight | Soulless: on Windows |
| 20:24.05 | ckknight | is it nice on Mac? |
| 20:24.09 | ckknight | I might just go to it |
| 20:24.13 | ckknight | for familiarity's sake. |
| 20:24.30 | sylvanaar | ckknight: if i trigger an event in a module i dont want it to be listenable from non-modules |
| 20:24.37 | ckknight | sylvanaar: oh... |
| 20:24.38 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 20:24.44 | ckknight | I think that can be done with namespacing. |
| 20:24.46 | Soulless | ahh, i dunno about mac never owned one, but i know it runs, but runs and doesnt-look-like-shit are a long ways appart |
| 20:24.51 | ckknight | I'd prefer not to deal with that |
| 20:25.03 | sylvanaar | ckknight: allright |
| 20:25.06 | ag` | ckknight: colloquy is the best IRC client imo |
| 20:25.12 | ckknight | ag`: using it now |
| 20:25.20 | ag` | xchat for mac OS X is discontinued/broken/using bad HIG |
| 20:25.29 | ckknight | why doesn't it color people's names distinctly? |
| 20:25.44 | ag` | it depends on the theme |
| 20:25.58 | ag` | you're talking about colloquy right? |
| 20:26.01 | ckknight | ag`: yes |
| 20:26.09 | ckknight | how do I change it so it will color distinctly? |
| 20:26.22 | Mikma | ckknight: irssi <3 |
| 20:26.25 | ag` | I thought mine did but it doesn't right now actually |
| 20:26.28 | ag` | let me find out |
| 20:26.44 | sylvanaar | doesnt it reuiqre some scripting |
| 20:26.45 | ckknight | k |
| 20:26.53 | ckknight | so how many macheads are in here? |
| 20:27.10 | sylvanaar | i have never seen an irc client that didnt require you to script eventually |
| 20:27.10 | Mikma | ckknight: atleast 3 now :D you, me, ag` |
| 20:27.34 | ckknight | I bought this mac because it was the best deal I could find |
| 20:27.37 | ckknight | not because of the OS |
| 20:27.38 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:27.57 | sylvanaar | been 10 years since i turned my mac off for the last time |
| 20:28.05 | Soulless | ok, somebody enlighten me, if you've ever played tribes 2 they have a very handy voice comms menu (similer to this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6125-DynamicsChat.html) which you can use to quickly say just about anything you need to in 4 key combos or less |
| 20:28.18 | Soulless | would it be possible to take that addon and make it work for things like actions |
| 20:28.52 | ag` | I'm not a mac fanatic |
| 20:28.53 | Soulless | eg you would do a combo like v v g h and it would do something and v v g g would do something else etc |
| 20:29.02 | ag` | I've always been interested in different OSes |
| 20:29.11 | Mikma | ag`: fanatic? :P neither am i |
| 20:29.30 | ag` | been using Linux a lot, and got interested in unix, programming and command line stuff |
| 20:29.43 | Kirkburn | This known? 2.0.3 PTR up: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59665995&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 20:29.48 | ckknight | I like the magnetic power dealy. |
| 20:29.50 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 20:29.57 | ag` | I do like good UIs though and usability, which Linux doesn't really have |
| 20:29.58 | Mikma | ckknight: damn you, a new mac :P |
| 20:30.02 | ag` | so that's why I like macs a lot |
| 20:30.05 | Amadeo | ckknight: I'd say mjc is the biggest Mac fanatic in the channel, if you need info :P |
| 20:30.05 | kenlyric | yes, that's know kirkburn. |
| 20:30.10 | Mikma | i have the older, crappier powercord that takes damage alot |
| 20:30.12 | kenlyric | priest, druids, and shammies are crying. |
| 20:30.20 | ckknight | they are? |
| 20:30.22 | ckknight | how come? |
| 20:30.23 | Iceroth | what did they nerf now? |
| 20:30.24 | ag` | kenlyric: about what |
| 20:30.29 | kergoth | http://chandler.osafoundation.org/ looks interesting |
| 20:30.33 | kenlyric | 3 piece tier 2 set bonus is dead :) |
| 20:30.39 | Iceroth | ah |
| 20:30.40 | ag` | I have a priest, I haven't seen anything |
| 20:30.40 | ag` | oh |
| 20:30.42 | ag` | link |
| 20:30.48 | Mikma | aww fuck |
| 20:30.54 | kenlyric | well, not dead, but it no longer scales with spirit. |
| 20:31.01 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Where are the patch notes? |
| 20:31.04 | kenlyric | (as in, they want you to upgrade it, which isn't so bad) |
| 20:31.06 | sylvanaar | why are they crying |
| 20:31.14 | ag` | well, if they didn't change it everyone would be wearing tier2 at level 70 |
| 20:31.20 | sylvanaar | oh yeah |
| 20:31.26 | kenlyric | no idea. This was a change on the beta a few weeks ago. |
| 20:31.33 | Amadeo | Does that mean the Warlock resists are dead too? |
| 20:31.34 | ag` | but link to changes |
| 20:31.36 | kenlyric | ag`: right. Doesn't mean they won't cry about it :) |
| 20:31.55 | Fisker- | haha |
| 20:32.00 | kenlyric | yeah, because I keep links to three week old news in my head. |
| 20:32.03 | Fisker- | i had my healers in av whisper me while they were healing |
| 20:32.05 | sylvanaar | they just made everything not scale so you would have to replace it |
| 20:32.15 | Fisker- | "Thanks i might had died in about a couple of minutes there" |
| 20:32.21 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: right, not a big shock. They will still cry :) |
| 20:32.27 | kenlyric | If I still had it, I'd be crying :) |
| 20:32.37 | sylvanaar | kenlyric: everyone cries |
| 20:32.41 | Soulless | -Priest and Durid tier 2 bonus changed to "Restores 20 mana per 5 second" from "allows 15% of your mana to contuie while casting" |
| 20:32.43 | Soulless | qqqqqqqqqqqqq |
| 20:32.59 | sylvanaar | ok im ab out to qq |
| 20:33.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Crying spider? |
| 20:33.09 | Fisker- | well atleast blizzard have learned the lesson :P |
| 20:33.09 | kenlyric | immediately, it's about a 20mana/5s nerf for tier 2 priests. |
| 20:33.16 | sylvanaar | cause thats not even what i get now |
| 20:33.19 | Iceroth | hah, EU char copy page has no target reals available |
| 20:33.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Iceroth, it's not up yet :) |
| 20:33.37 | kenlyric | sylvanaar, you probably get closer to 20mana per *tick* from that set bonus. |
| 20:33.48 | Iceroth | then how come it's 8h wait time?) |
| 20:33.52 | sylvanaar | lemme calculate it |
| 20:34.00 | Soulless | -nongenfogger(Yes its spelt wrong) is now on a 2 minute cooldown. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 20:34.02 | VII|Beherit | re |
| 20:34.07 | VII|Beherit | kergoth sounds nice |
| 20:34.10 | ckknight | wow, macs are shiny |
| 20:34.12 | sylvanaar | 300/4.5 is what |
| 20:34.13 | VII|Beherit | but isnt 2.0 compatible |
| 20:34.15 | ckknight | why isn't Windows like this? |
| 20:34.20 | ckknight | I mean, it doesn't seem that complicated. |
| 20:34.32 | Fudge | sylvanaar, 66ish. |
| 20:34.43 | Amadeo | Vista might be shiny, but I haven't used it and probably won't be for quite a long time |
| 20:35.15 | sylvanaar | purl: can you do math? |
| 20:35.18 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 20:35.20 | ag` | ckknight: get the application Quicksilver now |
| 20:35.34 | ag` | I wouldn't use my Mac without |
| 20:35.58 | ag` | http://quicksilver.blacktree.com/ |
| 20:36.25 | sylvanaar | i guess its only 15 |
| 20:36.31 | sylvanaar | so its a buff |
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| 20:36.47 | ckknight | doing it now, ag` |
| 20:37.05 | sylvanaar | meh i messed up |
| 20:37.07 | haarm | MoneyFu doesn't correctly calculate items bought back from vendors! |
| 20:37.09 | Neebler | Soulless could you link to where you're reading these patch notes please? |
| 20:37.19 | Soulless | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59427560&sid=1 |
| 20:37.39 | sylvanaar | its 25 |
| 20:37.55 | Mikma | ag`: what's so good about quicksilver?! i don't get it |
| 20:38.02 | sylvanaar | 25 mana/5 i5sr |
| 20:38.19 | sylvanaar | oh well w/e |
| 20:38.33 | kenlyric | sylvannar, I think it's 15 mana per tick. |
| 20:38.35 | Fudge | Uhm.. |
| 20:38.40 | kenlyric | that's 37 mana /5s |
| 20:38.41 | Fisker- | omg |
| 20:38.43 | Fisker- | i love this lag |
| 20:38.56 | Fisker- | We kited vanndar outside the bunker because lag didn't make him reset rofl :P |
| 20:38.57 | Fudge | "-Epic Mount training cost reduced to 540g with honored discount. " Que? There's no damn honored discount anymore, is there? |
| 20:39.06 | Fisker- | of course there is |
| 20:39.11 | Fudge | Oh nevermind. |
| 20:39.32 | Fudge | I was thinking PvP. |
| 20:39.47 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@roar.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:39.49 | ckknight | what do people recommend: using Safari, Firefox, or something else? |
| 20:40.00 | kenlyric | yay! |
| 20:40.07 | kenlyric | so it's 600g. |
| 20:40.24 | Fisker- | internet explorer |
| 20:40.24 | Feldia | firefox |
| 20:40.27 | Fisker- | or opera |
| 20:40.31 | Fisker- | dunno about safari |
| 20:40.44 | ag` | Mikma: it's good because you can launch everything |
| 20:40.56 | ag` | you don't have to have every app you ever use in your dock |
| 20:40.57 | ckknight | I'm on Mac, Fisker- |
| 20:40.57 | Mikma | ag`: i can launch everything with plain os too |
| 20:41.11 | Fisker- | i think they had IE for mac :P |
| 20:41.17 | sylvanaar | kenlyric: 37? |
| 20:41.20 | ag` | Mikma: yes, by opening finder and looking through your applications directory |
| 20:41.29 | ag` | but that sucks |
| 20:41.46 | Mikma | well i use like 5 apps anyway :D |
| 20:41.50 | ag` | quicksilver is simply the best since sliced bread |
| 20:41.53 | Mikma | mail, adium, firefox, terminal, wow |
| 20:41.55 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: I think my calc is working from closer to 350-400 spirit, which is what I had raid buffed. |
| 20:42.10 | ag` | Mikma: lets say you wanted to use terminal |
| 20:42.13 | sylvanaar | kenlyric: i just used 300 which is normal for druids |
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| 20:42.18 | ag` | but don't want it in your dock all the time |
| 20:42.32 | sylvanaar | kenlyric: unbuffed |
| 20:42.32 | ag` | you simply press command+space, type "te" and press enter |
| 20:42.41 | ag` | boom, terminal is open |
| 20:42.54 | ckknight | I like it |
| 20:43.00 | ckknight | oh, btw |
| 20:43.04 | haarm | i press windows key + d, then double click putty |
| 20:43.04 | Mikma | ag`: what about the resources it uses? |
| 20:43.08 | haarm | boom terminal |
| 20:43.08 | ckknight | how do I make the terminal not look like ass? |
| 20:43.13 | ag` | I only have 7 apps in my dock, for everything else I use quicksilver |
| 20:43.19 | kenlyric | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59427560&sid=1 |
| 20:43.19 | CIA-17 | 03gnarfoz * r21840 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: |
| 20:43.19 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Herbalism |
| 20:43.19 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.19 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.23 | sylvanaar | kenlyric: 400 on my priest, priest get the same as druid on the 3pc = 20 mana5? |
| 20:43.27 | ag` | Mikma: I don't think it uses much |
| 20:43.28 | kenlyric | this is unofficial changes noted in the 2.0.3 patch. |
| 20:43.31 | Maxemus | ckknight: what the likely hood of being able to adapt the Mining addon for Carto to work for fishing, i was thinking about trying :) |
| 20:43.41 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: yup. it's a base amount. |
| 20:43.46 | ckknight | Maxemus: I don't see why not. |
| 20:43.51 | kenlyric | they did that with all sorts of gear. |
| 20:44.01 | ckknight | Maxemus: it'll be easy, just copy-paste and change the names. |
| 20:44.02 | sylvanaar | honestly, its good cause i wont be as compelled to wear sr |
| 20:44.13 | Maxemus | ckknight: i'll give it a try |
| 20:44.43 | Maxemus | ckknight: well i'm about to see if it works since i kinda already done it :P |
| 20:44.47 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:44.48 | ag` | ckknight: what looks wrong with your terminal? |
| 20:44.50 | ckknight | okay, then |
| 20:44.51 | sylvanaar | im wearing 8/8 for the rejuv, they better not nerf that |
| 20:44.56 | *** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net) |
| 20:44.56 | ckknight | ag`: it looks icky... |
| 20:45.02 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip68-227-128-41.br.br.cox.net) |
| 20:45.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 20:45.03 | ag` | like how? |
| 20:45.10 | ckknight | ag`: bad font? |
| 20:45.14 | Mikma | mm |
| 20:45.42 | Mikma | i use the default font |
| 20:45.42 | ag` | oh |
| 20:45.42 | sylvanaar | though the sorta did since you get 100% +heal to rejuv now even w/o 8/8 |
| 20:45.43 | ag` | font looks ok to me too |
| 20:45.43 | ckknight | ah, found the fonts menu |
| 20:45.43 | ag` | but I guess you can change it |
| 20:45.49 | Mikma | ckknight: cmd+t :D |
| 20:46.08 | CIA-17 | 03gnarfoz * r21841 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Artwork/ (40 files): Cartographer_Herbalism - Should have probably added the images, too. -_- |
| 20:46.08 | Mikma | i have pressed that too many times in terminal (it's new tab in firefox) |
| 20:46.10 | ckknight | can the terminal have tabs? |
| 20:46.12 | CIA-17 | 03karlthepagan 07Karl * r21842 10Bits/Bits/Bits-1.0/Bits-1.0.lua: |
| 20:46.12 | CIA-17 | Bits: |
| 20:46.12 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.12 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.24 | KarlThePagan | ~pat CIA-17 |
| 20:46.26 | purl | ACTION pats CIA-17 and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 20:46.35 | ag` | ckknight: not unless you use one of the 3rd party terminals |
| 20:46.38 | KarlThePagan | pretty fast lately |
| 20:46.40 | Mikma | ckknight: hmm not sure, use other terminals? cmd+ arrows <- -> |
| 20:46.50 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:46.52 | kergoth | Gnarfoz: got svn eh, cool :) |
| 20:46.55 | Mikma | cmd+n and cmd+<- -> |
| 20:46.59 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: yay! :) |
| 20:47.13 | Mikma | ckknight: remember, ctrl+d quits terminal :D |
| 20:47.18 | kergoth | well, not on beta anyway |
| 20:47.18 | KarlThePagan | Bits is shaping up very nicely... good suggestions so far :D |
| 20:47.20 | kergoth | meh |
| 20:47.30 | kergoth | anyone play with 'remind'? as a console junkie, a scriptable calendar server that relies on a dotfile appeals to me |
| 20:47.40 | Gnarfoz | I tend to get tangled up in updating my addons... and not leveling ;D |
| 20:47.58 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: I concur, smartsvn is sweet ;) |
| 20:48.16 | ckknight | what SVN client should I use? |
| 20:48.34 | Mikma | ckknight: commandprompt <3 <3 <3 |
| 20:48.38 | ag` | command line client |
| 20:48.52 | ckknight | but I liked tortoise, cause it showed me visually :-( |
| 20:49.03 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:49.13 | Mikma | there were some graphical svn's |
| 20:49.16 | markv | ok are there any must have hunter mods out there like necrosis for warlocks? |
| 20:49.17 | KarlThePagan | tortois is nice |
| 20:49.18 | Gnarfoz | I don't use windows explorer at all, so smartsvn is a godsend :) |
| 20:49.26 | KarlThePagan | i think it crashes vista sometimes |
| 20:49.41 | ckknight | okay, how do I install lua? |
| 20:49.56 | ag` | I know, unfortunately there's no tortoise clone for Mac |
| 20:49.58 | ckknight | the binary site has PPC executables |
| 20:49.59 | Mikma | ckknight: install fink, then apt-get install lua or so |
| 20:50.07 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: http://www.syntevo.com/smartsvn/ < if you want to take a look - there's versions for mac os of that :) |
| 20:50.08 | ag` | there is one, but development stalled and it is unfinished |
| 20:50.18 | Mikma | ckknight: http://fink.sourceforge.net/ <- that one is the bomb! |
| 20:50.22 | *** part/#wowace Bver (n=Bver@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 20:50.25 | ckknight | I installed fink |
| 20:50.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:50.29 | ckknight | doesn't have apt-get |
| 20:50.31 | ckknight | weird... |
| 20:50.34 | Mikma | ckknight: after that you can use the 'apt-get install lua5.1' or so |
| 20:50.44 | Mikma | ckknight: it's in ... wait |
| 20:50.58 | Mikma | ckknight: /sw/bin |
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| 20:51.25 | ckknight | got it, had to run path setup in the fink installer |
| 20:51.30 | Gnarfoz | weird, the server time seems totally off? |
| 20:51.41 | Tornhoof | it usually is |
| 20:51.42 | KarlThePagan | new machine ck? |
| 20:51.48 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: got a mac. |
| 20:51.50 | Tornhoof | between 5 and 10mins |
| 20:51.52 | KarlThePagan | sweeeeeet |
| 20:51.54 | KarlThePagan | GPU? |
| 20:51.56 | Mikma | ckknight: apt-cache search <name> is really nice too |
| 20:52.01 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: 128 MiB |
| 20:52.02 | KarlThePagan | yay for fink! |
| 20:52.05 | Gnarfoz | shows my commit as 19:59, while it was actually 21:46 (depending on time zone of course, but the minutes... oO) |
| 20:52.08 | Maxemus | metamap and carto not the best of friends i c :P |
| 20:52.10 | ckknight | Mikma: I'm used to debian |
| 20:52.11 | KarlThePagan | which model ck? |
| 20:52.12 | ckknight | can't find lua. |
| 20:52.16 | ckknight | Maxemus: don't mix em |
| 20:52.24 | Maxemus | hehe just found that out :P |
| 20:52.47 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: MacBook Pro, 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo 2, 1 GiB RAM, 128 MiB video |
| 20:52.52 | Maxemus | bit like beer and wine :P |
| 20:52.54 | Mikma | ckknight: oh right, that's right lua needs to be downloaded from lua.org |
| 20:53.34 | Mikma | ckknight: http://luabinaries.luaforge.net/download.html |
| 20:53.37 | Soulless | grep kicks ass on so many levels |
| 20:54.04 | ckknight | Mikma: the sources? |
| 20:54.17 | *** join/#wowace Alieto (n=hardc0re@ANancy-153-1-71-119.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:54.27 | Alieto | Hello |
| 20:54.29 | Mikma | mikma@[~/Desktop/World of Warcraft/Blizzard Interface Data/FrameXML]: grep Hack * |
| 20:54.32 | Mikma | :D |
| 20:54.42 | ckknight | grep -ir Hack . |
| 20:54.42 | *** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@67-40-142-199.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 20:54.53 | Alieto | YOYYOOYYOYO |
| 20:54.55 | Mikma | ckknight: don't know anything from that point on since i don't use lua :D |
| 20:54.55 | Alieto | YOOYOYOOY |
| 20:54.56 | Alieto | oYOOYOYOOYOYOYO |
| 20:54.57 | Alieto | OYOYOYOYOOYOY |
| 20:54.59 | Alieto | OOYOYOYOOYOYOOYOY |
| 20:55.01 | Alieto | YOOYOYOYOOYOYOY |
| 20:55.02 | Alieto | YOYOOYOYOYOYOOYOY |
| 20:55.02 | Mikma | "has been kicked" |
| 20:55.04 | Alieto | YOYOOYOYOYOOY |
| 20:55.05 | Alieto | OYOYOYOOYOYOYOYO |
| 20:55.06 | Alieto | ^^ |
| 20:55.10 | Alieto | I need kICk ! |
| 20:55.13 | Alieto | TOOYOYOYYOY |
| 20:55.16 | Mikma | oh i know |
| 20:55.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*=hardc0re@*.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] by kergoth |
| 20:55.16 | *** kick/#wowace [Alieto!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (fuck off.) |
| 20:55.30 | Mikma | noooo! /mode * +m and /voice Mikma |
| 20:55.31 | ckknight | ugh. |
| 20:55.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikma] by ckknight |
| 20:56.02 | Mikma | heh thanks ckknight |
| 20:56.27 | ag` | I need kICk ! |
| 20:56.32 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:56.40 | kenlyric | heh, i'm in general a fan of banning wanadoo.fr. |
| 20:56.44 | Amadeo | that was pretty random |
| 20:56.47 | Mikma | --Set Dummy text to get text width *SUPER HACK* |
| 20:56.55 | kenlyric | god do they have a lot of owned computers on their ISP. Like I think all of them. |
| 20:57.19 | Fisker- | more a case with the germans |
| 20:57.38 | Fisker- | and his identd was banned as well so it isn't .fr |
| 20:57.49 | [dRaCo] | hey. not all germans are. |
| 20:57.56 | [dRaCo] | *are bad. |
| 20:57.57 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 20:58.02 | Mikma | lies |
| 20:58.06 | *** join/#wowace Famex (n=beckham9@verhoeven.speedxs.nl) |
| 20:58.07 | Mikma | they have lederhosen |
| 20:58.10 | ag` | kenlyric: owned computers? You mean like botnets and zombies?:( |
| 20:58.18 | [dRaCo] | only the bavarians do. |
| 20:58.18 | sylvanaar | if i /dump data (awesome by the way), does it support dumping the values in a list |
| 20:58.23 | Mikma | ag`: admin / 1234 |
| 20:58.24 | kenlyric | ag`: I think the whole thing is a botnet :) |
| 20:58.31 | [dRaCo] | we here don't. |
| 20:58.32 | Famex | where can i turn the option which let me see the spell info? |
| 20:58.55 | *** join/#wowace Saladin (i=Saladin@084202018043.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 20:59.24 | Saladin | Trouble with aguf: The arty frames are stickied to each other |
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| 20:59.54 | Saladin | party* |
| 20:59.58 | Hjalte | kemayo: I just found a rare in ZF, but no notice from silverdragon..? |
| 21:00.04 | ag` | that's not a problem Saladin |
| 21:00.18 | Mikma | ag`: OH NOES FIX IT! |
| 21:00.25 | ag` | I don't need to fix it |
| 21:00.27 | Saladin | lawl |
| 21:00.29 | kenlyric | fixitfixitfixitfixit |
| 21:00.31 | Mikma | ~borked |
| 21:00.36 | purl | rumour has it, borked is "has been touched by josh_borke" |
| 21:00.42 | Saladin | no, how do I unsticky the sick little btard bars? :P |
| 21:00.45 | ag` | you can set the distance between each party member Saladin |
| 21:00.53 | ag` | so you don't need to ungroup them |
| 21:00.59 | Sparhawke | how? |
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| 21:01.06 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (n=koaschte@p548D515A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:01.08 | ag` | in the configuration menu |
| 21:01.33 | Saladin | I only see layout, text, width and auras :S |
| 21:01.36 | Daemona | g'evening |
| 21:01.40 | Famex | when i mouse over my spell bar i dont see the info, onyone who knows how to turn this option on? |
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| 21:01.56 | ag` | Saladin: unit groups |
| 21:02.39 | Saladin | ag`: love you <3 |
| 21:02.49 | Mikma | Saladin: that's gay. we others hate him |
| 21:02.55 | ag` | I think I need to move the location of that menu |
| 21:02.55 | Fridgid | nick timeout is so damn long on this network |
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| 21:03.23 | cheers | ag`: it was confusing at first for me,too. |
| 21:03.27 | Saladin | aye ag`, aye |
| 21:03.50 | Famex | no one who knows how to fix it? |
| 21:04.29 | sylvanaar | YES: I LOVE WOW |
| 21:04.32 | cheers | Famex: kinda a vague problem description... |
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| 21:05.26 | Famex | when i mouse over on my casting button i dont see the info about the spell, i know that you can turn in on, but can find how anymore |
| 21:05.38 | cheers | bah. stupid VPN |
| 21:05.52 | ckknight | ag`: ever figure out how to color names distinctly? |
| 21:06.11 | ag` | ckknight: I think it is in the themes |
| 21:06.14 | Amadeo | could just put a border around them |
| 21:06.17 | *** join/#wowace Fluid (i=Fridgid@24.96.171.248) |
| 21:06.19 | ag` | there's one of the themes that does it ckknight |
| 21:06.29 | ag` | I think you need to modify the theme files |
| 21:06.37 | ag` | must be a setting of some sort |
| 21:07.01 | Amadeo | I love my Shaman! Woohoo |
| 21:07.03 | sylvanaar | any people good at making icons? |
| 21:08.32 | Famex | Any one who can tell me how that i can see the info about a spell when i mouse over? |
| 21:09.28 | ag` | ckknight: take a look at the style file for DecafBland, see how it colors names and apply that to the standard theme |
| 21:09.41 | ag` | or eventually see if you can find it on colloquy.info/extras |
| 21:09.42 | Ominous | am i mad for not liking HUDs? |
| 21:09.45 | ckknight | ah |
| 21:09.47 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:09.49 | cheers | Ominous: I'm nto fond of em either |
| 21:10.17 | cheers | Famex: if you're missing info that's in the default UI, it's probably a mod removing that information... |
| 21:11.03 | ag` | ckknight: styles seems to be defined in CSS |
| 21:11.08 | Famex | but a know that there is an option who turn the spell info on but doesn t know how anymore... |
| 21:11.12 | ckknight | ag`: path? |
| 21:11.24 | cheers | Famex: I don't understand what you mean by spell info. |
| 21:11.26 | Amadeo | Ominous: I don't think most HUDs have good default layouts...I like having one side dedicated to myself, the other to targets |
| 21:11.41 | cheers | I had a mod at one point called theorycraft that put extra spell information in mytooltip... is that what you're talking about? |
| 21:11.45 | ag` | ckknight: I might take a guess that they're inside your app package |
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| 21:12.39 | Saroz | pastamancer, pong |
| 21:12.42 | ag` | yep |
| 21:12.44 | Famex | yeh the info that is displayed in your tooltip, thats what im missing. |
| 21:13.08 | ag` | ckknight: /Applications/Colloquy.app/Contents/Resources/Styles/ |
| 21:13.28 | cheers | Famex: and is it there if you disable all your add-ins? |
| 21:13.29 | Amadeo | Speaking of TheoryCraft, I saw a commit today of "DrDamage", a TheoryCraft Lite that's in the words |
| 21:13.37 | cheers | s/ins/ons/ |
| 21:14.00 | cheers | Amadeo: sweet :) |
| 21:14.45 | Amadeo | I remember using Theorycraft when it was first released, everytime you would mouseover a spell, your PC would freeze up while it loaded info |
| 21:14.53 | cheers | o.O |
| 21:14.55 | ag` | ckknight: as for text editor I suggest bbedit, it can do SVN stuff for you too |
| 21:15.02 | cheers | ckknight: textmate |
| 21:15.05 | Famex | found it, its in bartender, then button tooltip. |
| 21:15.14 | Amadeo | That and it took the guy months to add Warlock spell info |
| 21:15.22 | ag` | not sure textmate does SVN / diff stuff |
| 21:15.24 | cheers | Famex: #wowace helps those who help themselves? ;) |
| 21:15.27 | cheers | ag`: oh yes it does |
| 21:15.34 | cheers | textmate does EVERYTHING. ;) |
| 21:15.34 | ag` | cool, I will take a look at it then |
| 21:15.41 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21843 10Prat/modules/CopyChat.lua: Prat: first commit, module to allow you to copy chat text |
| 21:16.01 | cheers | ooooh sylvanaar |
| 21:16.02 | Amadeo | This channel has a lot of Macs in it, does that mean I'm next? |
| 21:16.11 | cheers | Amadeo: you TOO could be next! ;) |
| 21:16.14 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:16.15 | ckknight | guess so, Amadeo |
| 21:16.24 | Amadeo | Awesome, so who's going to buy me one? :D |
| 21:16.52 | cheers | Amadeo: haha my whole christmas bonus is goin' towards a new one fer me |
| 21:17.01 | rw3|Gagorian | Amadeo: Yeah I'm working on that addon |
| 21:17.03 | snurre- | hm, i wonder wtf im eating |
| 21:17.09 | cheers | and mine is getting passed to juan... nad HIS, his is going in the parking lot so I can go office-space on it |
| 21:17.23 | rw3|Gagorian | Started about a week ago for only personal use... and I decided to polish it up a bit |
| 21:17.36 | cheers | ckknight: how ya likin' the new box? |
| 21:17.44 | Amadeo | Gagorian: Awesome :) |
| 21:17.44 | ckknight | cheers: it's shiny, but alien |
| 21:17.56 | snurre- | random libanese food in packaging with only french words.. :p |
| 21:17.59 | ckknight | and I want to be able to minimize from the dock |
| 21:18.00 | cheers | ckknight: you'll get more comfy with it... have you gone & futzed w/ everything in sys-prefs? |
| 21:18.05 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:18.17 | cheers | ckknight: hide the app |
| 21:18.27 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r21844 10Capping/ (7 files): |
| 21:18.28 | CIA-17 | Capping |
| 21:18.28 | CIA-17 | - fixed externals and toc |
| 21:18.28 | CIA-17 | - added experimental AV sync function |
| 21:18.28 | CIA-17 | - added "Eye of the Storm" to localization |
| 21:18.28 | CIA-17 | - added faction to chat messages |
| 21:18.35 | Amadeo | cheers: I'm bad about buying new hardware in general...I'm always afraid to upgrade because I don't want something new to come out righta fter I get it! |
| 21:18.38 | Amadeo | :P |
| 21:18.43 | ag` | We mac users do not use minimize |
| 21:18.46 | ag` | we do command+H |
| 21:18.51 | cheers | Amadeo: see that's whats nice about macs... you know when shits comin' out ;) |
| 21:18.56 | cheers | WWDC and the MW's! |
| 21:19.03 | Fisker- | I'm just about sick and tired about pvp right now |
| 21:19.05 | cheers | amen, ag` |
| 21:19.14 | Amadeo | cheers: I thought you said CES too! |
| 21:19.24 | cheers | CES? |
| 21:19.25 | *** join/#wowace BankZ (i=BankZ@c-68-41-47-8.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 21:19.29 | Amadeo | Maybe not |
| 21:19.31 | Amadeo | Some expo coming up! |
| 21:19.43 | Amadeo | I don't even know when they are, I just like the new shit |
| 21:19.46 | cheers | MacWorld |
| 21:19.47 | *** join/#wowace Lox (n=Lox@207.250.72.2) |
| 21:19.52 | cheers | is 2nd week in Jan |
| 21:19.54 | Amadeo | I see |
| 21:20.05 | BankZ | Is sRaidFrames the best raid frame to use with oRA2? |
| 21:20.14 | Amadeo | cheers: As a booth babe? :P |
| 21:20.23 | cheers | Amadeo: not quite |
| 21:20.27 | Amadeo | haha, I know, but I had to |
| 21:20.42 | Lox | BankZ: It works well for me |
| 21:20.45 | ag` | some mac event happening in January |
| 21:21.08 | cheers | BankZ: I like aguf showing raid frames, personally |
| 21:21.19 | cheers | but i haven't tried sRaidFrames so... :shrug: |
| 21:21.32 | ckknight | brb |
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| 21:21.53 | BankZ | The only thing I cant get sRaidFrames to do that I want is to show how long someone was been offline |
| 21:21.53 | Lox | cheers: can you get aguf to show raid frames by group number? I couldn't the last time I looked |
| 21:21.59 | Gagorian | If you prefer CTMod Raidframes then sRaidFrames is the ace2 choice for you |
| 21:22.09 | BankZ | anyone know how to do that? |
| 21:22.11 | cheers | Lox: you can group em by group number, or class,or group of classes or whatever |
| 21:22.12 | snurre- | givf praid2 |
| 21:22.53 | Saroz | wha wha |
| 21:22.59 | BankZ | praid2? |
| 21:23.01 | cheers | Lox: i think it's set up that way by default even |
| 21:23.11 | Saroz | BankZ, why do you need that? |
| 21:23.36 | BankZ | so I know how long someone has been offline, and if they need to be replaced |
| 21:23.44 | BankZ | sometimes you dont notice right away |
| 21:23.51 | BankZ | or dont keep track of it |
| 21:23.56 | Saroz | hrrrm |
| 21:24.00 | cheers | BankZ: doesn't default UI show that? |
| 21:24.04 | Lox | BankZ: sRaidFrames will show if they are off line and such |
| 21:24.13 | Saroz | Lox, I know, I wrote it :p |
| 21:24.19 | cheers | haha |
| 21:24.22 | BankZ | yeah, but it doesnt show for how long |
| 21:24.28 | BankZ | like CTRA does |
| 21:24.34 | Lox | hehe |
| 21:24.43 | Saroz | indeed BankZ |
| 21:24.51 | Lox | Saroz: well thank you :) |
| 21:24.53 | BankZ | besides that, it rocks |
| 21:25.08 | Saroz | Lox :p |
| 21:25.12 | BankZ | ohhh |
| 21:25.17 | BankZ | one other suggestion |
| 21:25.29 | Kemayo | Hjalte: Silverdragon currently punts the whole "rares in instances" thing. No coordinates, etc. |
| 21:25.39 | BankZ | it would be nice to have debuff change the frame color |
| 21:25.56 | Kemayo | I could rearrange the logic so you still get the notification, I suppose. |
| 21:25.58 | Hjalte | Kemayo: punts = does nothing in instances? |
| 21:26.04 | BankZ | to make it easy to see debuffs and buggs |
| 21:26.05 | Kemayo | Hjalte: Yup. |
| 21:26.12 | Saroz | BankZ, working on it, but it changs the background |
| 21:26.27 | Kemayo | It seems like more of a place for the instance notes addons. |
| 21:26.29 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, that Prat module sounds awesome |
| 21:26.46 | Saroz | Can someone add Gift of Life to Babble Spell? |
| 21:26.47 | Saroz | plx |
| 21:26.48 | BankZ | Saroz: so if someone is cursed, it changes the background color? |
| 21:26.52 | Saroz | BankZ, yes |
| 21:27.02 | Saroz | like CTRA |
| 21:27.06 | BankZ | can you configure it? |
| 21:27.17 | BankZ | what changes and the colors? |
| 21:27.24 | BankZ | so it only does the ones I want? |
| 21:27.26 | Saroz | you can change the colors |
| 21:27.39 | Saroz | and you can change if it should show all debuffs or only the ones you can dispell |
| 21:28.02 | BankZ | yeah, all I want is to change the background color of ones I can debuff |
| 21:28.05 | Lox | Yeah, that is really nice |
| 21:28.09 | BankZ | and show buff icons |
| 21:28.19 | Saroz | BankZ, ye, there is an option for that |
| 21:28.32 | BankZ | Saroz: musta missed it, where can I find? |
| 21:28.57 | Saroz | "Filter dispellable debuffs" |
| 21:28.59 | BankZ | loading wow now |
| 21:29.06 | ckknight | how do I install gcc/make/etc and all that fun stuff in OS X? |
| 21:29.08 | BankZ | thats greyed, I believe |
| 21:29.17 | ckknight | basically, build-essential in Debian |
| 21:29.18 | Saroz | then you havn't set it to show debuffs |
| 21:29.24 | ag` | ckknight: install Apple's Xcode distribution |
| 21:29.50 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r21845 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: |
| 21:29.50 | CIA-17 | sRaidFrames: Unbreak ability notification for non-english clients |
| 21:29.50 | CIA-17 | Someone add Gift of Life in Babble-Spell, please |
| 21:29.58 | BankZ | Saroz:loading now and checking it out |
| 21:30.03 | Saroz | kk |
| 21:30.06 | BankZ | Saroz: also how do you delete a profile? |
| 21:30.21 | Saroz | dunno, that's all ace |
| 21:31.12 | BankZ | ok, but now if someone gets debuffed, I cant see buffs |
| 21:31.14 | BankZ | hmmm |
| 21:31.16 | BankZ | right? |
| 21:31.24 | Saroz | right |
| 21:31.42 | BankZ | hmmm |
| 21:31.46 | BankZ | not what I want |
| 21:31.48 | Barbanus | which you shouldnt be buffing in combat anyways :P |
| 21:31.49 | BankZ | ohhh, well |
| 21:31.52 | Saroz | let me ungray it |
| 21:31.59 | BankZ | very nice mod |
| 21:31.59 | cheers | haha Barbanus |
| 21:32.16 | BankZ | HoTs |
| 21:32.25 | Barbanus | Ahh good call |
| 21:32.27 | cheers | bubbles |
| 21:32.33 | BankZ | and you cant debuff in Tree |
| 21:32.34 | cheers | blessings |
| 21:32.41 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r21846 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Allow the change of debuff filtering, even if debuffs are not set to be displayed - because it still affects the background color |
| 21:32.42 | Saroz | done BankZ |
| 21:32.46 | Barbanus | Paladins should use pallypower :P |
| 21:32.55 | Saroz | agree Barbanus |
| 21:32.59 | Barbanus | Checking the raid windows is dumb, pallypower is so much easier :P |
| 21:33.03 | cheers | :shrug: |
| 21:33.04 | Saroz | I don't use the buff display feature myself :p |
| 21:33.08 | cheers | i'm not a pali, just sayin' |
| 21:33.11 | Barbanus | Saroz, neither do I :) |
| 21:33.18 | Barbanus | Saroz, what class do you play? |
| 21:33.19 | Arrowmaster | hehe i remember when somebody casted gift of the wild right as we pulled flamegor |
| 21:33.21 | Saroz | paladin |
| 21:33.22 | BankZ | Saroz: u da man |
| 21:33.25 | cheers | our guys often don't give us time to buff so I'm often tossing a final fort or two while we're in combat |
| 21:33.33 | Saroz | BankZ :p |
| 21:33.37 | Barbanus | Saroz, that much be why I like sRaidFrames so much :P |
| 21:33.38 | BankZ | Saroz: How bout the offline counter? |
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| 21:33.45 | BankZ | Saroz: And maybe dead counter |
| 21:33.58 | Saroz | dunno, not really something I'm that interested in adding tbh |
| 21:34.03 | [dRaCo] | sRaidFrames is cool, but it still is buggy for me :/ |
| 21:34.20 | Saroz | [dRaCo], you should try and nuke all settings etc, in savedvariables |
| 21:34.26 | Saroz | you have a very odd problem :p |
| 21:34.34 | [dRaCo] | yeah, I know |
| 21:34.43 | Barbanus | Does anyone know if the new clique will cast res on a unit if they are dead, and you are out of combat when you try to cast any of your heals / whatever on them? (might not be able to do in the new 2.0 restrictions, I dunno) |
| 21:34.55 | Lox | after the patch I wiped everything and started over with mostly Ace2 stuff |
| 21:35.01 | Lox | been very happy |
| 21:35.07 | Barbanus | BankZ, deadcounter, get XRS |
| 21:35.09 | Saroz | dont think so Barbanus, sadly |
| 21:35.13 | kenlyric | barnabus, that is possible. |
| 21:35.15 | BankZ | Saroz: I would love it if you added it :) |
| 21:35.18 | ag` | Baraius: Impossible yes |
| 21:35.21 | kenlyric | you can do anything you want pretty much out of combat. |
| 21:35.31 | Saroz | yea thats what I thought kenlyric |
| 21:35.36 | Saroz | I really miss that feature |
| 21:35.40 | Barbanus | I do too |
| 21:35.41 | Saroz | Dead units out of combat, WTB |
| 21:35.47 | ag` | though you might want to ask in wowi-lounge Baraius, Clique isn't related to wowace |
| 21:35.47 | [dRaCo] | I already deleted the sRaidFrames.lua in SavedVariables, didn't work |
| 21:35.52 | [dRaCo] | Anything else I can delete? |
| 21:35.56 | Barbanus | I used to just cast a heal on the dead unit, OOC, and it would res :) |
| 21:36.05 | BankZ | Saroz: are there any other libs I should download with sRaidFrames? |
| 21:36.05 | kenlyric | not sure how you'd code it compared to the old way, but it should be possible to change the action of a button based on the state of the target. |
| 21:36.08 | kenlyric | while out of combat. |
| 21:36.17 | Saroz | BankZ, they should all be in the libs folder |
| 21:36.26 | Saroz | [dRaCo], hrm, tried a new profile? |
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| 21:36.33 | kenlyric | just don't know if "isDead" is a valid state. |
| 21:36.36 | Saroz | exactly kenlyric |
| 21:36.49 | Barbanus | ag`, who's the author again? |
| 21:36.50 | [dRaCo] | tried both default and char profile |
| 21:36.54 | [dRaCo] | same bugs |
| 21:37.00 | BankZ | <Saroz>: I know there was one I downloaded that gave more textures |
| 21:37.08 | Saroz | BankZ, Surface |
| 21:37.13 | BankZ | yeah |
| 21:37.17 | kenlyric | in general, I'd trust ag` opinion over mine, as he might have researched this mor than me :) |
| 21:37.18 | BankZ | anything else like that? |
| 21:37.27 | ag` | Baraius: cladhaire |
| 21:37.31 | Saroz | not really BankZ |
| 21:37.46 | BankZ | <Saroz>: k, but I am gonna keep buggings ya about that timer |
| 21:37.53 | Saroz | [dRaCo], what bug is it again, the empty frames? |
| 21:37.55 | Saroz | BankZ, ok :p |
| 21:37.59 | cheers | lol |
| 21:38.19 | [dRaCo] | the frames with just textures w/o text |
| 21:38.29 | [dRaCo] | and srf sometimes just stops updating |
| 21:38.37 | Saroz | freaky, english client? |
| 21:38.50 | [dRaCo] | german client with english language pack |
| 21:38.59 | [dRaCo] | but that shouldn't matter |
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| 21:39.02 | [dRaCo] | does it? |
| 21:39.08 | Saroz | dunno |
| 21:39.20 | Saroz | it shouldnt I guess |
| 21:40.22 | Saroz | [dRaCo], tried renaming the WTF folder and entering the game with clean settings? |
| 21:40.37 | Saroz | maybe only enable sRF -.- |
| 21:40.45 | [dRaCo] | nope, but I can try to |
| 21:40.49 | [dRaCo] | gimme a moment |
| 21:40.51 | Saroz | sure |
| 21:41.02 | Saroz | pastamancer!! |
| 21:41.09 | Saroz | ~seen pastamancer |
| 21:41.45 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 33m 37s, last said: 'time to flee'. |
| 21:41.45 | Saroz | -.- |
| 21:41.58 | Saroz | heh |
| 21:42.29 | ag` | r |
| 21:42.38 | ag` | ~seen vhaar |
| 21:42.41 | purl | ag`: i haven't seen 'vhaar' |
| 21:42.54 | ag` | :S |
| 21:42.55 | Saroz | ~seen vhaarr |
| 21:42.58 | purl | vhaarr <n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 39m 29s ago, saying: '[Liquidor]: BigWigs\Plugins\RaidWarn.lua'. |
| 21:43.00 | Maxemus | hmm when localising do u need to include enGB and enUS? |
| 21:43.02 | Barbanus | Saroz, forgive the stupid question (im at work at the moment), is there a way in sRaidFrames to decrease the transparancy of the background highlighting for debuffs .. I'd like the poisoned, magic debuffed, etc units to glow a much brighter color. |
| 21:43.23 | Kirkburn | Maxemus, if no enGB is present it will use enUS |
| 21:43.26 | Saroz | Barbanus, yes, you can set the alpha and color for each debuff in the latest version |
| 21:43.31 | Barbanus | awesome |
| 21:43.37 | Barbanus | I'll have to update and do that tonight |
| 21:43.40 | Saroz | :p |
| 21:44.00 | Barbanus | Makes playing wack-a-mole easier |
| 21:44.11 | Maxemus | Kirkburn: ty |
| 21:44.12 | Saroz | maybe, default should be fine though |
| 21:44.22 | sylvanaar | wow, people must not validate thier xml |
| 21:44.32 | Saroz | framexml.log |
| 21:44.39 | Kirkburn | Maxemus, much to my chagrin. Authors should be forced to use "colour" and "armour" :P |
| 21:44.59 | Barbanus | oh default is fine for normal raids, I'd like to change it for debuff heavy fights (read: chromagg), just to make my life easier then :P |
| 21:45.19 | Saroz | k, let me know how it turns out :) |
| 21:45.45 | [dRaCo] | alright... now I've gotta wait til that AV opens |
| 21:45.53 | Saroz | cya in there [dRaCo] |
| 21:46.46 | [dRaCo] | I'll report back as soon as I've got some information about srf's behaviour with new settings |
| 21:46.58 | Barbanus | Kirkburn, damn rights, colour is better than color :PP |
| 21:47.22 | ckknight_ | you misspelled color, Barbanus, you must've slipped a u in accidentally |
| 21:47.26 | ckknight_ | it's okay, we all make mistakes |
| 21:47.29 | Barbanus | lol |
| 21:47.34 | Maxemus | damn my fishing idea didn't work |
| 21:47.39 | Kirkburn | I want Blizz to localize the enGB copy of WoW properly |
| 21:47.54 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21847 10SilverDragon/ (Core.lua Locale.enUS.lua Locals.enUS.lua SilverDragon.toc): |
| 21:47.54 | CIA-17 | SilverDragon: (Drycode!) |
| 21:47.54 | CIA-17 | -Rename Locals.enUS.lua to Locale.enUS.lua. |
| 21:47.54 | CIA-17 | -Store and announce rares in instances, too. Just don't add them to Cartographer. |
| 21:48.00 | Kirkburn | If they're gonna call it enGB and not enEU, then they should damn well use ENGLISH |
| 21:48.26 | Maxemus | lol coming from the uk, center and centre which looks like the correct spelling |
| 21:48.28 | Barbanus | Saroz, gotta say the range detection in sRaidFrames has saved so many people in my guild :P |
| 21:48.34 | Saroz | yea it's nice |
| 21:48.36 | Maxemus | we all know its center :P |
| 21:48.37 | Kemayo | Hjalte: That should address your concern, I think. |
| 21:48.37 | Saroz | credit to pastamancer :p |
| 21:49.12 | Hjalte | Kemayo: thanks :) |
| 21:49.27 | ckknight | I don't have my WoW CDs |
| 21:49.31 | ckknight | so I have no WoW... |
| 21:49.41 | Barbanus | Download the trial |
| 21:49.45 | Kemayo | ckknight: Use the trial? |
| 21:49.49 | Barbanus | patch, login, you are good. |
| 21:50.08 | ckknight | Kemayo: ah, good point. |
| 21:50.23 | snurre- | LAWL, i just wiped a raid trying to kill nathanos blightcaller |
| 21:50.26 | Maxemus | ckknight: http://download.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=7050 |
| 21:50.29 | Kemayo | It's great -- at ComicCon this year they were giving out trial DVDs. So I now have a WoW dvd instead of that 4-cd set that comes with the box... :D |
| 21:50.33 | ag` | snurre-: you bad man |
| 21:50.34 | Barbanus | ckknight: https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/index.htm |
| 21:50.38 | KarlThePagan | ohshi... my life is over... |
| 21:50.41 | KarlThePagan | horde won an AV |
| 21:50.47 | Kirkburn | Haven't we been over this before? Use the bloomin' trial install |
| 21:50.53 | snurre- | KarlThePagan: impossible! |
| 21:50.54 | Silviu- | sylvanaar CopyChat is not working yet right ? |
| 21:51.06 | cheers | lol |
| 21:52.01 | Barbanus | I need a quotes mod, that I can store quotes from my guild members just to spam them with later |
| 21:52.19 | cheers | I have to say, that sounds particularly obnoxious :P |
| 21:52.32 | Barbanus | I mean, things like this are classic! http://wow.tecnobrat.com/images/funny-mc.gif |
| 21:53.22 | Ominous | lmao my guild accuse me of selling ace |
| 21:53.30 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 21:53.36 | Barbanus | selling ace? wtf? |
| 21:53.48 | Kirkburn | It's another word for "himself" |
| 21:53.48 | Ominous | as in being paid to make everyoen use it |
| 21:54.13 | Kirkburn | (see? "himself") |
| 21:54.17 | Maxemus | lol there saying your a window sales man but for ace :P |
| 21:54.38 | ckknight | Ominous: explain that we don't make money off of it |
| 21:54.42 | Ominous | i know |
| 21:54.50 | Barbanus | I make everyone use it |
| 21:54.58 | Barbanus | and they thank me |
| 21:55.02 | Barbanus | I get paid in thank yous |
| 21:55.17 | Barbanus | now, anyone want to buy some thank yous? |
| 21:55.28 | Kirkburn | Nah, but can I have some pound sterling? |
| 21:55.31 | Fisker- | nice |
| 21:55.35 | Fisker- | just got my 3rd pvp mount |
| 21:56.00 | Barbanus | I'm like 18k honor away from my 2h mace! :( |
| 21:56.13 | Tain | You can ride three mounts at once now? Cool! |
| 21:56.24 | Fisker- | about 1k from another hwl weapon |
| 21:56.27 | Fisker- | oh yeah Tain |
| 21:56.40 | Tain | Gotta mount 'em all! |
| 21:56.41 | [dRaCo] | Saroz: guess it's working fine now |
| 21:56.47 | Fisker- | i'm using them to dump marks though :P |
| 21:56.50 | [dRaCo] | what do you think? |
| 21:56.54 | Saroz | dunno |
| 21:56.57 | Saroz | try enabling all mods |
| 21:57.01 | [dRaCo] | some addon screwing up? |
| 21:57.11 | KarlThePagan | snurre-, INCONCIEVABLE! |
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| 21:58.07 | Gandharva | hm, I still get the nil error in OneView :( |
| 21:58.09 | Barbanus | Fisker-, yea this is my 2nd |
| 21:58.34 | Fisker- | gonna get 2 more |
| 21:58.39 | Gandharva | I think it´s my shield (King´s Bulwark). It´s shown as Bag :) |
| 21:58.42 | Fisker- | (kodo and hawkstrider) |
| 21:58.56 | Fisker- | and also only 14000 rep from exalted with silvermoon |
| 21:59.19 | Gagorian | Anyone who's well versed in mage spells and what coefficients they have for spelldamage calculations? |
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| 21:59.34 | Barbanus | [dRaCo], play "find the broken addon!" ... enable them 1 or 2 at a time |
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| 21:59.41 | cheers | Gagorian: I'm relatively well versed & sitting next to an "expert" ;) |
| 21:59.58 | Gagorian | Can you recieve/send PMs? |
| 22:00.02 | Gagorian | And.. willing to help? |
| 22:00.33 | cheers | yeah I'm authed, and my build'll take naother 10 or 15 so ask away |
| 22:01.21 | Barbanus | Gagorian, normal spells are casttime / 3.5 as the co-efficient, spells with slowing effects, or aoe have more modifiers |
| 22:01.32 | Fisker- | Silvermoon City:8083/21000 (38.49%) Currently Revered with 12917 to go |
| 22:02.16 | Barbanus | Gagorian, http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Plus_damage_and_Plus_healing |
| 22:02.42 | cheers | that too |
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| 22:03.51 | Cvijo | hi all |
| 22:03.52 | Barbanus | I'm a stat-whore ... I calculate everything.. |
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| 22:05.12 | Cvijo | can anyone help me with Grid addon, when i uprade to new version i cant get Center Text 2 enabled, it is disabled and cant make it usable |
| 22:05.12 | Mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pf3z935R37E |
| 22:10.39 | [dRaCo] | Enabled 'em all, works fine now o0 |
| 22:10.45 | cheers | haha |
| 22:11.39 | Amadeo | Gagorian chants |
| 22:12.25 | [dRaCo] | so I guess I've got to start all over again with creating my interface |
| 22:12.27 | Barbanus | [dRaCo], what was it doing? |
| 22:12.50 | [dRaCo] | not showing up properly and not updating |
| 22:12.53 | Barbanus | [dRaCo]. you can just delete the sRaidFrames savedvariable file ... |
| 22:12.55 | Barbanus | and try that |
| 22:13.22 | Barbanus | I'd do that before redoing everything ... but then again my UI takes like 45 mins to setup the way I want between bartender, etc |
| 22:14.11 | Fisker- | nice |
| 22:14.23 | Stephmw | anyone have a screenie of Grid in all its glory? |
| 22:14.23 | Fisker- | it took 1,5 minutes for belinda in av to perform 5 attacks on me |
| 22:14.41 | [dRaCo] | I did that, didn't work |
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| 22:16.29 | markv | ok i've got a question, if yu're a hunter learning skills from pet do you need to learn rank 1 before you can go tame a pet with rank 2, or will teh rank 2 pet automatically give you both? |
| 22:16.39 | cheers | markv: both, I believe |
| 22:17.41 | markv | ok thanks |
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| 22:19.10 | neenee | no |
| 22:19.24 | neenee | you will only learn the one your pet has |
| 22:19.26 | neenee | not the lower rank |
| 22:19.37 | markv | so do you need the rank 1 to learn the rank 2? |
| 22:19.41 | neenee | nope |
| 22:19.45 | markv | ok cool |
| 22:19.51 | Fudge | Pewpage. [2006/12/22 16:19:18-302-x1]: Capping-2.14\AV.lua:24: AceComm-2.0: Cannot call `SetCommPrefix' more than once. |
| 22:19.52 | markv | i forgot to get bite |
| 22:19.54 | neenee | You can learn rank 2 without knowing rank 1, but you won't get rank 1 when you learn rank 2. |
| 22:20.04 | neenee | :) |
| 22:20.31 | markv | and i'm already on to the next area and too lazy to go back |
| 22:21.27 | markv | are there any must have hunt mods similar to necrosis for warlocks? |
| 22:21.30 | markv | er hunter mods |
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| 22:22.36 | ckknight | what music player do people recommend for Mac? I used foobar 2000 before on Windows |
| 22:22.48 | kergoth | my hunter isnt very high level, but i find huntershelper and feedomatic useful |
| 22:22.54 | kergoth | and bigtrouble |
| 22:23.13 | Maxemus | ckknight: winamp for mac? |
| 22:23.36 | kergoth | most people dont use foobar like winamp, its unlikely he'll find winamp meets his needs |
| 22:23.50 | jkw | markv: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3304 |
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| 22:24.26 | yacoob | ckknight, there's little if no competition to itunes :( |
| 22:24.33 | markv | awesome, thanks guys. |
| 22:24.36 | yacoob | (which is neat, but poorly written) |
| 22:24.43 | Maxemus | how about using vlc then? |
| 22:24.44 | ckknight | yacoob: I'm not really a fan of iTunes |
| 22:24.48 | yacoob | ckknight, if you can launch up amarok, then I'd recommend it. |
| 22:24.49 | ckknight | had too many issues in the past |
| 22:24.58 | yacoob | unless you're against any library-oriented player, then dunno :D |
| 22:25.01 | ckknight | isn't amarok a KDE thing? |
| 22:25.14 | yacoob | it is |
| 22:25.20 | nymbia | itunes is much faster and more efficient on a mac than a pc, but it's still on the bloated side. |
| 22:25.32 | yacoob | but it's possible to compile it, at least my friend did it. |
| 22:25.50 | Maxemus | ckknight: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ video/mp3 and more type thing |
| 22:26.00 | ckknight | yea, I've used vlc on windows |
| 22:26.03 | ckknight | liked it for video |
| 22:26.09 | ckknight | 3.0? |
| 22:26.12 | Maxemus | theres a max ver |
| 22:26.12 | yacoob | kergoth, happy bleeding edge :D |
| 22:26.16 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:26.16 | Maxemus | mac * |
| 22:26.18 | Fisker- | typically blizzard |
| 22:26.25 | kergoth | lets see how fast it goes boom, thats always entertaining |
| 22:26.25 | Fisker- | when the lag disappears alliance is winning anyways |
| 22:26.31 | [Cu]Werik | its like available since a month:) |
| 22:26.37 | [Cu]Werik | and pretty stable |
| 22:26.43 | Mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=1SUiG81oak8 |
| 22:26.49 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:26.59 | [Cu]Werik | I had no stability issues yet :) |
| 22:27.28 | kergoth | rendering seems nice, dont notice the switch to cairo, and thats a good thing given the cairo performance problems i've heard about, methinks |
| 22:28.54 | Fudge | What's this I hear about that you can group-queue for AV again? |
| 22:29.37 | ckknight | btw, I have my radio interview in an hour and a half |
| 22:29.51 | cheers | hehe :) |
| 22:30.28 | markv | what radio station? |
| 22:30.52 | ckknight | wowradio |
| 22:30.56 | yacoob | 'Wow coders, and women who love them - facts and fiction'? :D |
| 22:31.02 | markv | ah which host? |
| 22:31.19 | markv | calwellian? |
| 22:31.30 | ckknight | Cadwallion |
| 22:31.30 | cheers | haha |
| 22:31.33 | markv | lol |
| 22:31.48 | markv | i heard that guys interview with the CTmod writer |
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| 22:31.52 | markv | it's so painful listening to him |
| 22:31.55 | markv | cadwallion that is |
| 22:32.02 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 22:32.15 | markv | i've just never found him to make an interesting radio host |
| 22:32.19 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:32.23 | ckknight | wonder what people will ask... |
| 22:32.27 | markv | I'm not sure |
| 22:32.29 | [Cu]Werik | Keylime was cute though:) |
| 22:32.36 | markv | but hopefully you'll be more lively than the ctmod guy |
| 22:32.36 | [Cu]Werik | With her chainsaw voice |
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| 22:32.58 | Neebler | keylime was in my guild |
| 22:33.12 | [Cu]Werik | Was?:) |
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| 22:33.21 | Neebler | yea it fell apart |
| 22:33.33 | [Cu]Werik | :| |
| 22:33.37 | ckknight | markv: I'm lively |
| 22:33.39 | ckknight | and American |
| 22:33.56 | markv | wlel i'll d/l it later on then to listen to |
| 22:34.09 | ckknight | not gonna listen live? |
| 22:34.24 | markv | when's it on at? |
| 22:34.30 | ckknight | hour and a half |
| 22:35.48 | markv | alright i'll have to remember to turn it on then |
| 22:35.53 | markv | ok feedomatic rocks |
| 22:36.06 | Neebler | post shoutcast url in here before it starts :P |
| 22:36.12 | Neebler | rather, spam it so noone misses it |
| 22:36.36 | markv | ckknight: if you're curious about what people ask you should listen tot he ctmod guy interview |
| 22:36.45 | markv | should give you an idea of what to expect |
| 22:36.47 | ckknight | I already did |
| 22:36.59 | ckknight | like "what's your motivation" and such |
| 22:37.17 | ckknight | and I'll be like :"Titan was a steaming pile of horseshit, and I felt I could do better" |
| 22:37.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:37.29 | markv | also see if you can get cadwallion to be spark more of a discussion isntead of just asking each question one after the other |
| 22:37.38 | markv | i think that's what kills the guy |
| 22:37.45 | Barbanus | "steaming pile of resource intensive horseshit" fixed |
| 22:37.47 | Neebler | "motivation?" "to gain peoples trust and eventually release a keylogger and become rich beeyotch!" |
| 22:37.52 | markv | lol |
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| 22:38.23 | markv | he's like a drone when he's on the air when he's interviewing someone |
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| 22:38.31 | ckknight | blah |
| 22:38.40 | markv | 04[16:38] markv: 01he's like a drone when he's on the air when he's interviewing someone |
| 22:38.55 | kergoth | color! my eyes! |
| 22:38.58 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21848 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.lua PallyPowerValues.lua): |
| 22:38.58 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 22:38.59 | CIA-17 | - moved defaults options to PallyPowerValues.lua |
| 22:38.59 | CIA-17 | - Added PallyPower:OnEnable and PallyPower:OnDisable |
| 22:39.13 | markv | hmm does agUF show the pet happiness at all? |
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| 22:41.36 | Barbanus | does aznamir hang out here? |
| 22:42.14 | Neebler | ~seen aznamir |
| 22:42.38 | purl | i haven't seen 'aznamir', Neebler |
| 22:42.38 | Neebler | I don't like you purl |
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| 22:43.02 | Barbanus | well either he has a diff name .. or he doesnt :P |
| 22:44.26 | odt | markv: the pet bar is colored based on happiness |
| 22:44.38 | odt | and you can put the happiness value on the pet bar if you like aswell |
| 22:45.23 | markv | hmm |
| 22:45.57 | markv | i can't seem to find that option |
| 22:46.40 | odt | not an option per se, just choose a custom healt status text, and add [pethapinessvalue] or such |
| 22:46.45 | Neebler | [happycolor] |
| 22:46.53 | Neebler | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrames |
| 22:49.40 | ckknight | brb |
| 22:50.34 | Kemayo | Hey, ckknight, any plans for "region" notes in Cartographer? |
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| 22:53.06 | Kinkx | /note [x,y] <notes>, and if "x,y" not included use the players current location as x,y |
| 22:53.15 | Kinkx | That would be nice :) |
| 22:53.30 | Kinkx | (in Cartographer) |
| 22:53.33 | axxo | /note on this epic morning, there where i slayed the boar |
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| 22:54.13 | Barbanus | Holy RP! |
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| 22:55.11 | Kinkx | /note spawn location, /note npc location, etc. it would be nice to have :) |
| 22:56.03 | kergoth | thatd be cool, make it pop up the usual note creation dialog with that text filled in, so you can pick the color and icon |
| 22:56.25 | markv | awesome, all caught up on abilities, i can take delilah out of her pig pen now |
| 22:56.26 | Kinkx | Yea, that would be awesome :D |
| 22:57.03 | Neebler | WhiteboardNG needs to be uploaded to more addon websites and advertised! it's the greatest addon ever and more people need to use it |
| 22:57.14 | kergoth | what is it? |
| 22:57.29 | cheers | oh geeze, last thing i need is therogues to play tic-tac-toe while we raid :P |
| 22:57.30 | Neebler | it is what it's called. A giant whiteboard that you draw on |
| 22:57.37 | Neebler | it syncs with your raid |
| 22:57.49 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 22:58.18 | Ominous | is it just me that gets nterface\FrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:816: table index is nil:? |
| 22:58.18 | kergoth | someone should do tetrinet in wow |
| 22:58.31 | vhaarr | TetriNET <3 |
| 22:58.47 | anenigma | Ominous: me too |
| 22:58.50 | Teomyr | vhaarr: agree :D |
| 22:58.55 | CIA-17 | 03aznamir * r21849 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: |
| 22:58.55 | CIA-17 | PallyPower: |
| 22:58.55 | CIA-17 | - added a check for null unit.unitid for ScanClass function |
| 22:58.55 | CIA-17 | - InventoryScan will not broadcast Symbol of Kings info in not in group |
| 22:59.20 | Saroz | omg |
| 22:59.21 | Saroz | so nice |
| 22:59.24 | Saroz | give give pallypower |
| 22:59.26 | Barbanus | omg tetrinet on wow? |
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| 22:59.39 | kergoth | tetrinet in wow would kick ass |
| 22:59.43 | ckknight | sure would. |
| 22:59.45 | Teomyr | need tetrinet |
| 22:59.47 | vid` | thats a splendid idea |
| 22:59.56 | ckknight | doable, too |
| 22:59.59 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:00.04 | Barbanus | Someone made poker already |
| 23:00.12 | ckknight | there's Texas Holdem... |
| 23:00.15 | kergoth | tetris would be pretty easy to implement, actually |
| 23:00.16 | Barbanus | yar |
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| 23:00.23 | kergoth | there already is one, but one in ace2 with acecomm |
| 23:00.26 | Barbanus | there is already a tetris nod |
| 23:00.28 | Barbanus | mod* |
| 23:00.31 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 23:00.35 | cheers | yo |
| 23:00.46 | Neebler | There is a tetris addon, but it's not multiplayer |
| 23:01.02 | Amadeo | too bad |
| 23:01.03 | kergoth | multiplayer would be pretty easily done |
| 23:01.03 | Barbanus | yea, go steal the logic :P |
| 23:01.10 | kergoth | just need to get all the effects for tetrinet implemented |
| 23:01.15 | Amadeo | Log into WoW to play multiplayer Tetris |
| 23:01.15 | kergoth | gravity, bomb, etc |
| 23:01.18 | Amadeo | ... :P |
| 23:01.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:01.26 | kergoth | itd be fun while fishing |
| 23:01.33 | Amadeo | incorporate it into Fishing! |
| 23:01.35 | Teomyr | or raiding |
| 23:01.36 | Barbanus | or waiting for the raid |
| 23:01.38 | Mikma | eventho this is old as mammoths: http://youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg |
| 23:01.49 | Barbanus | hey, you just need to make it not fuck with my clique bindings |
| 23:01.51 | kergoth | "raid starts... uh.. whenever the mt finishes his game of tetrinet" |
| 23:01.58 | Barbanus | then I can heal and play tetris! |
| 23:02.02 | Amadeo | make come competitive game where you can win each others loot |
| 23:02.03 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:02.04 | kergoth | hahah |
| 23:02.05 | cheers | that's the way it'd be too, kergoth |
| 23:02.50 | Neebler | I remember playing tetrinet about 5 years ago. it was super addictive |
| 23:03.13 | Amadeo | I was never a huge Tetris fan, though I played it at work and stuff on my cell phone :P |
| 23:03.18 | Mikma | http://www.judson.tv/ ... he got his own "show" |
| 23:03.21 | Teomyr | yes, i played it for a while too. a wow version would rock :D |
| 23:03.27 | Neebler | yea good idea amadeo. no more /randoming for loot. Tetrinet competition for it! |
| 23:03.31 | kergoth | hahah |
| 23:03.39 | Amadeo | Neebler: Exactly! |
| 23:03.46 | phreaky | Benumbed: Isn't music streamer supposed to override the ingame music? I got both at the same time =( |
| 23:03.51 | kergoth | "goddamn blockbomb, i needed that dagger :(" |
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| 23:03.57 | Teomyr | lmao |
| 23:04.19 | Amadeo | TWP - Tetris Win Points |
| 23:04.26 | Teomyr | one issue might be that it'd require a (trusted) host |
| 23:05.13 | Amadeo | "Guild Leader wins again...hm..." |
| 23:05.18 | kergoth | yea, otherwise i could send whatever spiffiness i want in my copy |
| 23:05.29 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:05.52 | kergoth | i've got the catchphrase |
| 23:06.01 | kergoth | "TetriWOW, because WOW just isn't addictive enough." |
| 23:06.21 | Funkeh` | tetris is not addictive |
| 23:06.30 | Funkeh` | it just makes you want to smach the screen when you loose |
| 23:06.36 | Funkeh` | smash* |
| 23:06.40 | kergoth | tetrinet can be |
| 23:07.09 | Barbanus | tetrinet is addictive |
| 23:07.31 | kergoth | why the hell am i still at work, i cant concentrate anyway... oh yeah, getting paid to sit here.. still.. |
| 23:07.34 | Barbanus | actually, its the devil! |
| 23:07.35 | Funkeh` | haven't played that :p |
| 23:07.45 | Barbanus | kergoth, code up tetrinet! |
| 23:07.51 | Funkeh` | i just remember the old tetris and getting very fristrated |
| 23:07.58 | Barbanus | great use of the workplaces time IMO |
| 23:08.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:08.12 | Funkeh` | its like those cubes, supposed to ease stress, but they do the complete opposite |
| 23:08.16 | kergoth | we need wowbench for lua 5.1 / wow 2.0 |
| 23:08.18 | Barbanus | Funkeh`, multiplayer tetris, where you can fuck your opponents |
| 23:08.27 | Funkeh` | oh dear god |
| 23:08.31 | Funkeh` | i won't even try that |
| 23:08.31 | Barbanus | give them extra blocks, bombs, etc |
| 23:08.34 | cheers | lol |
| 23:08.36 | kergoth | you get bonuses to help yourself or nail them |
| 23:08.38 | kergoth | its awesome |
| 23:08.41 | ruinna | does anyone use eclipse to code lua? |
| 23:08.41 | jkw | Is there any none-painful way to make own layouts to agUF? :] |
| 23:08.45 | cheers | DS tetris does that |
| 23:08.51 | kergoth | does it? nice |
| 23:09.09 | cheers | kergoth: yeah... there's one that locks the position of the blocks so they cant be rotated |
| 23:09.10 | Funkeh` | jkw: take a texture change its colour and name it something else! :p |
| 23:09.11 | *** join/#wowace wereHamster (n=wereHams@neopsis.com) |
| 23:09.20 | cheers | and another that makes them fall at like 10x speed |
| 23:10.05 | jkw | Funkeh`: err, most layouts come from ~200 rows of code. |
| 23:10.30 | Funkeh` | jkw: i was fooling around ;) |
| 23:10.40 | Teomyr | i don't know, but i find tetris DS a bit easy in marathon mode, with that block caching and the way you can move the tiles even when they're already on the bottom |
| 23:10.58 | jkw | Funkeh`: :P |
| 23:11.24 | Amadeo | I hate how slow Youtube is |
| 23:12.47 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21850 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: |
| 23:12.47 | CIA-17 | SilverDragon: |
| 23:12.47 | CIA-17 | -Reorganize the announcing function to make spamming less likely. |
| 23:12.47 | CIA-17 | -Make sure that nameplate:IsVisible() before considering its data. |
| 23:14.49 | Fudge | They haven't fixed the Horde AV exploit in 2.0.3 either? |
| 23:14.59 | cheers | exploit? |
| 23:16.43 | Barbanus | I dreamt last night that there was a new exploit for horde that they can leave the cave early ... I think I need to AV less. |
| 23:16.51 | cheers | lol |
| 23:16.57 | kergoth | hahah |
| 23:18.41 | Fisker- | there technically is |
| 23:18.53 | Fisker- | When the server lags it doesn't spawn the gate quick enough |
| 23:18.57 | Fisker- | but it's for both sides |
| 23:21.03 | cheers | o.O |
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| 23:24.17 | Barbanus | I also dreamed I tanked patchwerk on my pally ... heh |
| 23:24.35 | Neriak | hi |
| 23:24.42 | Barbanus | hey |
| 23:24.53 | [dRaCo] | fudge: which exploit? |
| 23:25.33 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r21851 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 23:25.33 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:25.33 | CIA-17 | - fixed german locales so that Cartographers' instance notes doesn't bug out |
| 23:25.33 | CIA-17 | because of nil. PLEASE don't comment out foreign locales. also use character |
| 23:25.33 | CIA-17 | codes instead of umlauts .. and why the fuck the file is encoded in utf-8 |
| 23:25.33 | CIA-17 | again?! |
| 23:26.13 | Silviu- | Neriak Nice commit :) |
| 23:26.17 | Neriak | sorry for the rude tone, i'm major pissed ;) |
| 23:26.20 | Barbanus | LOL |
| 23:27.12 | cheers | would never have guessed ;) |
| 23:27.17 | Neriak | it was quite some c'n'p work .. |
| 23:28.03 | xgravix | comment out foreign locales lol |
| 23:28.23 | cheers | meh, germans don't play wow anyway ;) |
| 23:28.31 | ckknight | brb |
| 23:28.54 | Neriak | cheers: you never know ;) |
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| 23:29.08 | nevcairiel | commenting locales shouldnt actually break stuff |
| 23:29.12 | cheers | Neriak: I know germans have the most ridiculous words for things, I can tell you that ;) |
| 23:29.14 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dyndsl-091-096-074-233.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 23:29.15 | nevcairiel | if its not properly translated anyway |
| 23:29.16 | Neriak | yeah but it does |
| 23:29.22 | Neriak | table is nil .. blabnla |
| 23:29.27 | Gnarfoz | guess it was utf-8 encoded because the wow client understands utf-8 files? |
| 23:29.28 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:29.28 | nevcairiel | its a flaw in AL then |
| 23:29.31 | nevcairiel | not in the locale |
| 23:29.39 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21852 10Prat/frames/pratcc.xml: Prat: Borrowed the bugsack frame for use with CopyChat module. Changed names and got it to validate against the schema, removed buttons at the bottom |
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| 23:30.09 | Neriak | bigwigs suffered the same problem .. to be honest it's better to have wrong locales than getting nil errors that break the whole addon |
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| 23:30.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:30.36 | Kirkburn | sylvanaar, "borrowed" ... I love when people use that term ;) |
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| 23:30.43 | cheers | :) |
| 23:30.51 | Neriak | I can live with a module that doesn't get triggered, but i can't live with a raid addon that's broken when I wanna raid ;) |
| 23:31.29 | ckknight | woot |
| 23:31.32 | Kirkburn | I'm just going to borrow some food from the fridge :P |
| 23:31.32 | sylvanaar | Kirkburn: well, might as well credit the source |
| 23:31.33 | ckknight | interview in half an hour |
| 23:31.40 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r21853 10Cancellation/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 23:31.40 | CIA-17 | Cancellation: |
| 23:31.40 | CIA-17 | - Added another option (Cancel and log to chat, in case Paladins are screwing around with BoP ;) |
| 23:32.05 | Kirkburn | ckknight, yay |
| 23:32.14 | Neriak | what station, ckknight? |
| 23:32.27 | ckknight | Neriak: WoWRadio |
| 23:32.41 | Gnarfoz | wcradio |
| 23:32.43 | Gnarfoz | .com :) |
| 23:32.51 | ckknight | http://wcradio.com:8000/listen.pls |
| 23:32.53 | Kirkburn | I bet you sound like a preteen girl |
| 23:33.06 | Neriak | sometimes i love tekkubs way to only answer by pasting URL's ;) |
| 23:33.08 | ckknight | nah, I don't |
| 23:33.10 | Neriak | thanks ckknight |
| 23:33.12 | ckknight | I'm all growed up |
| 23:33.30 | Kirkburn | All that hormone treatment, I guess? ;) |
| 23:33.56 | ckknight | Kirkburn: stop while you're behind |
| 23:34.06 | Neriak | ckknight: do you see any way to stop addons getting nil when locales are commented out ? |
| 23:34.22 | ckknight | Neriak: it falls back to enUS |
| 23:34.30 | Neriak | no it doesn't |
| 23:34.34 | ag` | ckknight: when is it on? |
| 23:34.36 | Neriak | at least it didn't ibn the past |
| 23:34.39 | Kirkburn | I think they should change the file format to plz. Listen.plz =) |
| 23:34.43 | ckknight | ag`: half an hour |
| 23:34.56 | ag` | sorry yeah, I could read that by scrolling up |
| 23:35.00 | Funkeh` | Neriak: theres nothing wrong with using characters that are in ascii, as in the french/german ones |
| 23:35.01 | sylvanaar | can someone tell me (without getting defensive) why the locales were implemented using string literals, or why that use is so common? |
| 23:35.16 | Gnarfoz | Kirkburn: hah? it already is 'please' in shortened form |
| 23:35.17 | Funkeh` | you don't HAVE to have codes for them, since most editors work fine now |
| 23:35.17 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 23:35.36 | Kirkburn | oh shush :) |
| 23:35.43 | Kemayo | sylvanaar: Why do you hate freedom? |
| 23:35.58 | sylvanaar | ... |
| 23:36.00 | Gnarfoz | follow-up question: are you a terrorist? |
| 23:36.01 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 23:36.05 | xgravix | rofl |
| 23:36.09 | sylvanaar | d i a f |
| 23:36.13 | ckknight | sylvanaar: what do you mean, like L["monkey"]? |
| 23:36.41 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 23:36.46 | Kirkburn | Such lovely music on atm |
| 23:36.54 | Silviu- | Lovely ? :/ |
| 23:37.00 | Groll | what is it? |
| 23:37.03 | Kirkburn | Okay, no, it's just shouting |
| 23:37.21 | Silviu- | Heavy metal |
| 23:37.27 | sylvanaar | why not: STR_MONKEY |
| 23:37.28 | Groll | ah |
| 23:37.32 | Kemayo | I think that technically you can use anything that's a valid table key as your locale-thingy. |
| 23:37.54 | Kemayo | I have one in QuestsFu that's still just L[TOOLTIP_HINT], after all. |
| 23:38.22 | sylvanaar | yeah, i just used what was in use - but i wondered why its so common |
| 23:38.30 | Kemayo | It's very readable. |
| 23:38.46 | Kemayo | Would be my theory. |
| 23:38.59 | ckknight | sylvanaar: because it pollutes the global table. |
| 23:38.59 | Neriak | Funkeh`: I always see asian people breaking crap because of changing the encoding method .. so I found out it's best to use character codes instead |
| 23:39.18 | Kemayo | You don't have to switch back and forth between your locales and core code to see what's going on. |
| 23:39.22 | Funkeh` | then they should use a decent f editor ;_; |
| 23:39.23 | ckknight | essentially, the point of doing L["monkey"] is that it basically turns into "monkey" when you're in enUS |
| 23:39.36 | ckknight | but if you're in deDE, it'll properly turn to "Affe" |
| 23:39.50 | sylvanaar | yeah, isnt there a way to do the substituion before the table access? |
| 23:39.52 | MentalPower|PC | L[TOOLTIP] indexes the L table with whatever is in the TOOLTIP variable, whereas L["TOOLTIP"] indexes the L table with the "TOOLTIP" string-key |
| 23:39.54 | Funkeh` | most of the 'usual' asian translators use good editors and it works fine |
| 23:39.55 | ckknight | and it's a lot easier to comprehend than STR_MONKEY |
| 23:40.04 | ckknight | sylvanaar: substitution? |
| 23:40.16 | Kemayo | MentalPower: That's what I meant, really. :) |
| 23:40.25 | sylvanaar | ok - my thing is that if i change 1 letter i have to go back and edit the locale file |
| 23:40.36 | MentalPower|PC | not if you use tokens |
| 23:40.40 | Fisker- | yay |
| 23:40.43 | Fisker- | 12k until exalted |
| 23:40.46 | sylvanaar | right |
| 23:40.49 | sylvanaar | was my point |
| 23:41.07 | MentalPower|PC | oh literals, right. tokens FTW! |
| 23:41.13 | Kirkburn | The WCRadio music makes me feel like I'm watching a crappy YouTube video of a rogue/warrior/mage killing stuff and being REALLY COOL IN BIG LETTERS! |
| 23:41.19 | Neriak | Funkeh`: it happened a lot of times and i won't discuss this any further. you have your opinion and i have mine. simple :) |
| 23:41.39 | Neriak | lol Kinkx |
| 23:41.45 | Neriak | aeh kirkburn |
| 23:41.52 | [dRaCo] | Saroz: I guess I found the evil addon |
| 23:42.12 | [dRaCo] | Most probably it was LitheToolTipDoctor |
| 23:42.14 | sylvanaar | am i missing something? |
| 23:42.34 | Saroz | haha |
| 23:43.08 | Neriak | Funkeh`: babble-boss for eg. is encoded in utf-8 actually .. normally one changes to utf-8 .. types in umlauts and special chars and change back to 8bit |
| 23:43.09 | Kirkburn | It just just so cute, I stole it away =) |
| 23:43.23 | Kirkburn | a/just/was/ |
| 23:43.33 | Neriak | s |
| 23:43.42 | Kirkburn | Okay, I need word replacement therapy MOO! |
| 23:43.53 | Neriak | =) |
| 23:44.15 | Funkeh` | burn locales |
| 23:44.20 | Neriak | ckknight: please tell them the music sux |
| 23:44.26 | Neriak | Funkeh`: :P |
| 23:44.51 | CIA-17 | 03gagorian * r21854 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc ReadMe.txt SpellData.lua): |
| 23:44.51 | CIA-17 | DrDamage: |
| 23:44.51 | CIA-17 | -Beta mage spells and talents added |
| 23:44.52 | CIA-17 | 03cinedelle * r21855 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (FuBar_FactionsFu.toc Locales/FuBar_FactionsFu.frFR.lua): |
| 23:44.52 | CIA-17 | FuBar_FactionsFu |
| 23:44.52 | CIA-17 | - frFR localization added |
| 23:44.54 | CIA-17 | - toc modified to use it |
| 23:45.03 | ckknight | Neriak: done |
| 23:45.09 | Neriak | lol |
| 23:45.19 | ckknight | btw, join #wowradio on irc.wowirc.com |
| 23:45.23 | ckknight | then you can ask questions there |
| 23:45.29 | ckknight | and they'll be fed to me |
| 23:46.03 | Neriak | k, i'll fed them with annoying questions about annyoing AceLocale ;) |
| 23:46.14 | ckknight | ... |
| 23:46.17 | ckknight | how is it annoying? |
| 23:46.21 | Neriak | nah :) |
| 23:46.36 | Fisker- | http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4581/makeitstopji9.jpg <-wish i had diplomacy :( |
| 23:46.59 | Neriak | j/k .. but sometimes it does suck when an addon gets broken because of the damn locales .. i can tell you. you americans don't have this kind of problems ;) |
| 23:48.17 | Neriak | oh at least they're playing metallica ;) |
| 23:48.39 | cheers | why the push for Silvermoon rep? |
| 23:49.36 | Fisker- | then i don't have to pay a lot for runecloth (already paid it, damn lol) |
| 23:50.21 | Fisker- | btw on the image i got 3 more mounts than usual :/ |
| 23:50.24 | Fisker- | 3 pvp mounts |
| 23:50.29 | Fisker- | 20 marks from the 4th |
| 23:52.00 | Kirkburn | madman :P |
| 23:52.22 | Kirkburn | Why do you have a dash after your name btw? |
| 23:52.29 | Fisker- | Fisker's taken i think |
| 23:52.36 | Fisker- | or else i regged it and can't remember :P |
| 23:53.04 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 23:55.30 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r21856 10Cartographer_Mining/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:55.30 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Mining |
| 23:55.30 | CIA-17 | - Dark Iron now shows the correct icon |
| 23:55.30 | CIA-17 | - added Lesser Bloodstone |
| 23:55.30 | CIA-17 | - added Incendicite |
| 23:55.32 | Neriak | magic people .. voodoo people! |
| 23:55.35 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 23:55.41 | Fisker- | actually funny that you mention it |
| 23:55.42 | Groll | ooh i'm soo about to watch trolltyg i tomteskogen!! :D |
| 23:55.57 | Fisker- | cause i was listening to that some minutes ago |
| 23:56.06 | Fisker- | prodigy = win |
| 23:56.16 | Neriak | Fisker-: me? it's playing on WoW radio right now |
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| 23:56.23 | Neriak | aye |
| 23:56.30 | Fisker- | :o |
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| 23:56.48 | Barbanus | Kirkburn, wow you d/c a lot |
| 23:56.51 | Barbanus | ... |
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| 23:57.01 | Barbanus | ... Kirkburn, wow you d/c a lot |
| 23:57.11 | Fisker- | he's getting pwned by nickserv |
| 23:57.17 | Kirkburn | Yes. Yes I do. |
| 23:57.31 | Barbanus | I think he is pwning himself with nickserv |
| 23:57.35 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 23:57.35 | Barbanus | I could be wrong :P |
| 23:57.41 | Neriak | btw: has anyone enough energy to make radio stations in MusicStream addon selectable by a Tablet menu? :) I don't want it make myself .. but I'm absolutely adoring this feature. |
| 23:57.43 | Kirkburn | It auto pwns me |
| 23:58.15 | Kirkburn | The router seems to do it randomly |
| 23:58.17 | Neriak | s/it make/to make it |
| 23:58.20 | Neriak | s/it make/to make it / |
| 23:58.21 | Neriak | grr |
| 23:58.27 | ckknight | woo it's starting in 2 minutes! |
| 23:58.36 | ckknight | 3* |
| 23:58.38 | Neriak | I'm listening |
| 23:59.00 | Silviu- | good luck ckknight ;) |
| 23:59.12 | Kirkburn | Yeah, gl |
| 23:59.12 | Barbanus | how does musicstream work? |
| 23:59.35 | Neriak | start with "It's Ace, not ACE. Ace is not an acronym." lol |
| 23:59.41 | ckknight | lol. |
| 23:59.58 | ckknight | I was considering talking about how wowace is fueled by hatred... |
