| 00:01.51 | Daemona | beta realm patch DL up yet? |
| 00:02.03 | *** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net) |
| 00:02.48 | yakujim | vhaarr: i'm sorry m8, but it doesn't seem to work for me - i replaced the AceAddon-2.0.lua file in \BigWigs\Libs\AceAddon-2.0\ |
| 00:03.05 | Sachs | Moo |
| 00:03.07 | yakujim | and the "ThaddiusArrows" is still not showing up under the Extras bit |
| 00:03.08 | Fudge | Moo |
| 00:03.11 | vhaarr | yakujim: If you're running other Ace2 mods, the AceAddon will be replaced. |
| 00:03.19 | vhaarr | yakujim: With the most recent version. |
| 00:03.22 | yakujim | lol |
| 00:03.25 | yakujim | okay |
| 00:03.32 | yakujim | so i replace the file in all addons :) |
| 00:03.33 | vhaarr | So all your AceAddon instances must be downgraded. |
| 00:03.43 | vhaarr | *all* of them. |
| 00:06.20 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21488 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway-1.0/AnchorsAway-1.0.lua: AnchorsAway: Defaults now respect stored false boolean values. |
| 00:07.31 | yakujim | vhaarr |
| 00:07.34 | yakujim | thanks m8 : |
| 00:07.35 | yakujim | :D |
| 00:07.59 | Ominous | what causes Invalid capture index? |
| 00:08.21 | Ominous | in a string.gmatch |
| 00:09.09 | ZealotOnAStick | so, when is AceAddon being fixed, then? |
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| 00:10.55 | vhaarr | now |
| 00:11.08 | vhaarr | I have to head for bed, so I just reverted the last checkin. |
| 00:11.16 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21489 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: |
| 00:11.16 | CIA-17 | .AceAddon-2.0: Reverting because the last checkin caused a bug: AceAddon doesn't |
| 00:11.16 | CIA-17 | call OnInitialize on AceModuleCore modules loaded with LoadAddOn after the first |
| 00:11.16 | CIA-17 | one. So if you load 3 LoD addons containing modules for the core, OnInit is only |
| 00:11.16 | CIA-17 | called on the first one. This prevents BigWigs externals from working at all, |
| 00:11.17 | CIA-17 | for example. |
| 00:11.33 | vhaarr | Someone point ckk to that when he comes, please. |
| 00:11.46 | Silviu- | good night vhaarr |
| 00:11.49 | vhaarr | nn |
| 00:13.19 | Xuerian | o/ |
| 00:14.34 | Xuerian | hm, vhaarr, if you're still in ping range, mind if I branch idchatlegacy? I don't want to add any bloat to it, but I'd like to add a couple small tweaks like /tt and pageup/pagedown :p |
| 00:15.14 | vhaarr | Xuerian: Probably just you and me using it anyway, just modify trunk. |
| 00:15.29 | Xuerian | most excellent. nn. |
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| 00:20.44 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r21490 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (RulesDot.lua RulesStun.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: -attempt to fix a Invalid capture index bug |
| 00:22.37 | SkorcherX | WTB new Prat icon for the minimap. (super stoked its there now, just.... hideous though, no I dont have the capacity to contribute one) |
| 00:23.57 | Silviu- | Wtb someone to modify Babble :P |
| 00:23.58 | Silviu- | [2006/12/20 02:14:01-37-x1]: Chronometer-0.10\Data\Warlock.lua:46: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Nether Protection" does not exist. |
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| 00:27.11 | ag` | mm |
| 00:29.37 | ZealotOnAStick | uhm. |
| 00:29.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I seem to have both Prat and Prat_FuBar2 icons on my Fubar now, whereas I didn't before. |
| 00:29.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Something change? |
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| 00:30.32 | Silviu- | ZealotOnAStick i think u can delete fubar pluggin from your addon folder, Prat got one inside |
| 00:31.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Why do we have a Prat_Fubar2 in trunk then as well? |
| 00:31.39 | Silviu- | Don`t know :) |
| 00:31.48 | Silviu- | Maybe they didin`t had time to delete it |
| 00:32.00 | ZealotOnAStick | And, Yay, CF2 fixed my Grid not using the right font. |
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| 00:33.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Kirkburn, CF2 fixed my Grid not using the right font. |
| 00:34.37 | ZealotOnAStick | font size changes require a reload, or are they done dynamically? |
| 00:37.15 | Kirkburn | Have you tried to scale the fonts? |
| 00:37.39 | ZealotOnAStick | very slightly. |
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| 00:37.47 | ZealotOnAStick | like 1.02 - 1.04 |
| 00:38.06 | Kirkburn | If you set it to 1.4, it would answer your question :P |
| 00:38.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Things other than in my chat frames are just -slightly- smaller than I was used to with the old CF |
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| 00:39.01 | Amadeo | Am I blind, or does agUF not group frames anymore? I can't find the option |
| 00:39.14 | ag` | uh, it only groups frames |
| 00:39.24 | ag` | you can't have them seperate anymore |
| 00:39.25 | CIA-17 | 03arjuna * r21491 10simpleMinimap/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:39.25 | CIA-17 | simpleMinimap: |
| 00:39.25 | CIA-17 | - removed all XML files |
| 00:39.25 | CIA-17 | - added new thin square (light) skins.lua |
| 00:39.25 | CIA-17 | - fixed an issue with disabling modules |
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| 00:39.47 | Amadeo | ag`: Ok, so it's a forced group now, that's why the option is gone :) |
| 00:39.50 | Amadeo | that's fine with me |
| 00:39.54 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21492 10Prat/PratFu.lua: Prat: even though you didn't say please |
| 00:40.25 | ag` | Kirkburn: any thoughts on the latest post in the ClearFont thread on wowace? |
| 00:40.36 | Amadeo | that's all I needed, bbl! |
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| 00:43.01 | Dhraga | whats the correct code for checking if your out of combat ? |
| 00:43.04 | Kirkburn | ag`, please don't bring that up. If it becomes a problem, it becomes one |
| 00:43.42 | Kirkburn | I've had a year of trying to 'cope' with it by looking for alternatives and producing 'fontless' versions :/ |
| 00:44.14 | ag` | Hm, no problem. Just wanted to know if you were aware or not |
| 00:44.24 | Kirkburn | I am indeed aware :) |
| 00:44.34 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21493 10idChatLegacy/ (idChatLegacy.toc idChatScroll.lua idChatTellTarget.lua): idChatLegacy: Added Pageup/Pagedown on ctrl-scroll, ultra-simple TellTarget /tt |
| 00:46.00 | ZealotOnAStick | is there a way in game, probably with a / command, to tell the specific version of an Ace2 library loaded into memory? |
| 00:46.27 | Kirkburn | (I'm specifically trying not to give any pretence to be 'distributing' it for general use anyway, by never suggesting using it elsewhere or mentioning it by name) |
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| 00:52.31 | Xuerian | I really don't see why they'd go after this particular usage, especially seeing that it promotes non-commercial usage. /shrug. |
| 00:55.19 | Kirkburn | indeed |
| 00:55.30 | ZealotOnAStick | is there a way in game, probably with a / command, to tell the specific version of an Ace2 library loaded into memory? |
| 00:56.04 | Xuerian | Doesn't seem like it, ZealotOnAStick. |
| 00:56.35 | ZealotOnAStick | dammit. |
| 00:56.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Still got something with 21377 |
| 00:56.42 | Kirkburn | I'm off to bed ... g'night all! |
| 00:56.43 | ZealotOnAStick | And, actually, yes. |
| 00:56.47 | Xuerian | 'night Kirkburn |
| 00:56.56 | ZealotOnAStick | with /ace2 list libs |
| 00:57.04 | Xuerian | ZealotOnAStick: But that would make too much sense. |
| 00:57.36 | Xuerian | ZealotOnAStick: Why not just disembed and use the latest ace2? vhaarr reverted it |
| 00:57.56 | Gandharva_ | use !!!StandaloneLibraries. Then you always have the latest version. |
| 00:58.18 | Xuerian | Or a specific version :p |
| 00:58.53 | Gandharva_ | jepp |
| 01:00.11 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21494 10Automaton/modules/AutoRepair.lua: Automaton: Update locals koKR |
| 01:00.50 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21495 10/tags/Prat_FuBar2/: Prat_FuBar2: |
| 01:01.49 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07last-version * r21496 10Prat_FuBar2/: Prat_FuBar2: last trunk version |
| 01:01.52 | Ominous | can something be DissableOnDemand? |
| 01:02.21 | Xuerian | Any addons using AceDB can be put into standby... but that doesn't unload them |
| 01:02.36 | Xuerian | Well, any that use it properly |
| 01:02.49 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21497 10Prat_FuBar2/: Prat_FuBar2: Moved off trunk - last version tagged |
| 01:02.51 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: you around? |
| 01:03.44 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: im only my rogue and half afk and kenergy is now ticking like 5x slower than the ticker in icehud |
| 01:04.15 | ZealotOnAStick | My primary machine is stupidly powerful, and it's generally far easier for me to run with embeds on it. |
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| 01:06.23 | Eternally777 | Anyone hear of a lib called ClickBinder? |
| 01:06.31 | Dhraga | nn all |
| 01:06.44 | Ominous | i put the LOD tag into the toc of my FuBar mod but when i loaded it fubar hadent loaded the mod and it wasent in the fubar list, but looking ag other fubar mods which are LOD they dont seem to have anthing in the lua to load it |
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| 01:07.10 | sylvanaar | Fubar has its own loader |
| 01:07.34 | Ominous | yes but it didnt load my FuBar mod |
| 01:07.35 | sylvanaar | it looks for um a dependancy on fubar or something |
| 01:07.49 | usz | Ominous, maybe you missed some X-tag ? |
| 01:08.25 | usz | nvm, i have no idea why it didnt without look at your .toc |
| 01:09.32 | sylvanaar | Dependancy on FuBar? |
| 01:10.39 | Ominous | yea from looking at them every LOD fubar plugin has a dependency on fubar not an optional dep |
| 01:11.32 | sylvanaar | you need to set a depancy for fubar to act as your LoD loader |
| 01:11.44 | sylvanaar | it checks for it |
| 01:11.45 | Silviu- | ~seen Devla |
| 01:12.05 | purl | devla <n=Devla@69.49.158.29> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 250d 57m 49s ago, saying: 'hai!'. |
| 01:12.14 | usz | 250d ^^ |
| 01:12.15 | ag` | wow, a ducktruck! http://junk.niffux.org/DuckTruck2.jpg |
| 01:13.31 | Silviu- | Lol :) |
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| 01:19.08 | SkorcherX | any of you guys in the beta? |
| 01:21.02 | vid` | hmm |
| 01:21.14 | vid` | anyone hve probs with prat not showing colored names with levels now in general chats like /bg etc |
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| 01:25.40 | sylvanaar | ~bugz |
| 01:25.41 | purl | bugz is, like, "Does this happen on the lastest version? What version are you using?" |
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| 01:27.16 | Klazar_ | where do I post updater errors? |
| 01:27.31 | sylvanaar | ~roulette |
| 01:27.32 | purl | ACTION watches sylvanaar pull the trigger: Click! |
| 01:28.17 | Dekuna | Klazar: in the darkest pits of Dis, seventh circle of hell and home of accountants and lawyers |
| 01:28.52 | Dekuna | ~hypnotoad |
| 01:28.54 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
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| 01:30.01 | Q6 | Any mods that show raid member targets? |
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| 01:30.22 | Q6 | i wana know whoese not assisting |
| 01:31.04 | Nargiddley` | i'm a little bit of testing away from commiting something like that to MainAssist |
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| 01:32.01 | Q6 | That would be awesome. im a raid leader and instead of yelling i just wanna see who it is and remove em from the raid |
| 01:32.12 | Codayus | Q6: PerfectTargets shows the number of people assisting, but not who. |
| 01:32.45 | Q6 | Hm yes. I would need to know who. Most healers dont assist would becomplicated to track that down |
| 01:33.03 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 01:33.18 | Nargiddley` | MainAssist currently shows the number, about to add a tooltip thing showing whos on the assists target |
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| 01:35.25 | Codayus | Q6: *nod* Tanks too. |
| 01:35.47 | Nargiddley` | harder to track down who isnt assisting yeah :/ |
| 01:35.50 | Codayus | And I suppose casters could use focus or clickcasting too, although that'd be a bit odd. :-) |
| 01:35.59 | Ominous | is anyone else having trouble with bartenders paging for stelath |
| 01:36.19 | Q6 | When will you have this wonderful update in place? |
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| 01:36.42 | Nargiddley` | i can commit it now, not 100% tested tho |
| 01:36.46 | Codayus | You can set TinyTip to list who is targeting a mob when you mouse over it...that can lead to MASSIVE tooltips in a 40 man raid, and it's still tricky to work out who ISN'T targeting. |
| 01:36.51 | Nargiddley` | seems to be working |
| 01:37.04 | Kaelten | network installs of linux are fun.... |
| 01:37.05 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 01:38.40 | Ominous | nevcairiel: are u here atm? |
| 01:38.41 | CIA-17 | 03nargiddley * r21498 10MainAssist/ (MainAssist.lua MainAssist_enUS.lua): |
| 01:38.41 | CIA-17 | MainAssist: |
| 01:38.42 | CIA-17 | - Added tooltips to the tank windows showing who's targeting the same thing. Needs Testing |
| 01:39.20 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21499 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 01:39.20 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 01:39.21 | CIA-17 | -Spell- Added Nether Protection (Warlock), needs translations |
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| 01:53.47 | Ominous | what is the other option to sct? |
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| 01:54.58 | Fudge | Any reason oCD isn't showing me the cooldown for my shots and stings anymore and just my pet's abilities? |
| 01:55.23 | ZealotOnAStick | What's a good mod for buying multiple stacks of stuff (mainly for helping Rogues with poison stuff)? |
| 01:55.32 | Ominous | oTravi |
| 01:55.54 | Ominous | haste: you here? |
| 01:55.58 | haste | yes |
| 01:56.43 | Ominous | haste: would it be possible to add an option to refill to 60 to otravi or could i commit my version which has it |
| 01:57.11 | haste | Ominous: Right now it's: oUF -> oCB -> X |
| 01:57.23 | haste | Ominous: all mods will get a quite major change |
| 01:57.27 | Ominous | ok |
| 01:57.32 | haste | Ominous: and oTravi will get a GUI |
| 01:57.39 | haste | Fudge: what actionbar add on? |
| 01:57.46 | Fudge | Bartender. |
| 01:57.49 | Fudge | 3. |
| 01:57.58 | haste | are the bars enabled? |
| 01:58.28 | Fudge | Nope, I hide that bar 'cause I don't need to see it. :/ |
| 01:58.37 | a-stray-cat | my slower oCD alternative is chugging along ;o |
| 01:58.43 | Silviu- | [2006/12/20 03:55:22-40-x1]: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0-r20687:196: table index is nil |
| 02:00.55 | haste | 'slower' alternative? |
| 02:01.13 | a-stray-cat | im guessing its slower |
| 02:01.17 | a-stray-cat | cuz it polls the spellbook |
| 02:01.19 | a-stray-cat | rather than your bars |
| 02:01.26 | a-stray-cat | so it will check every spell that has a cooldown whenever |
| 02:01.36 | a-stray-cat | well, one rank of every spell that has a cooldown |
| 02:01.48 | a-stray-cat | i never really peaked into how oCD worked |
| 02:02.03 | a-stray-cat | s/eak/eek/ |
| 02:02.50 | CIA-17 | 03arjuna * r21500 10simpleMinimap/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:02.50 | CIA-17 | simpleMinimap: |
| 02:02.50 | CIA-17 | - added binding to expand minimap |
| 02:02.50 | CIA-17 | - fixed some leftovers |
| 02:02.54 | Fudge | haste, so the bar needs to be shown for oCD to pick up the cooldown now? |
| 02:03.31 | haste | Fudge: I don't use Bartender3, so I can't really give a propper comment, but it when I tested it worked as long as the bar was enabled, didn't matter if it was hidden or not |
| 02:03.46 | Ominous | nevcairiel: are you here |
| 02:03.46 | Fudge | I know. :/ It changed recently. |
| 02:04.20 | CIA-17 | 03quetz * r21501 10Q_FWG/Q_FWG_Data.lua: Q_FWG:Removed file/folder |
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| 02:10.04 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21502 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 02:10.04 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:10.04 | CIA-17 | - update locals for koKR |
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| 02:17.01 | mjc | Xuerian: hey |
| 02:17.09 | deltron | mjc: ping |
| 02:17.37 | deltron | heh |
| 02:17.44 | kergoth | boo for queues |
| 02:18.11 | deltron | ya |
| 02:18.15 | deltron | suramar is wack |
| 02:18.17 | Xuerian | Mjc: oy |
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| 02:31.44 | Stavmar | i am getting an error with babble spell and chronometer: Warlock.lua ln 46, Translation"Nether Protection" does not exist. THis also is preventing my spell times with chronometer from working, anythoughts? |
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| 02:34.36 | DrZoot | Photoshop seems to have some serious problems with TGA and Alpha channels |
| 02:34.43 | Xuerian | mjc: proper-case-ping |
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| 02:35.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Which version of Photoshop, DrZoot? |
| 02:36.59 | sylvanaar | speaking of queues, anyone have a circular buffer implementation coded somewhere |
| 02:37.26 | DrZoot | ZealotOnAStick: CS2 |
| 02:41.55 | CIA-17 | 03Tristan * r21503 10RaidSpy/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 02:41.55 | CIA-17 | RaidSpy: |
| 02:41.55 | CIA-17 | - Changed the dewdrop |
| 02:43.50 | Stavmar | I am getting the Warlock.lua ln 46, Translation"Nether Protection" does not exist error? Any thoughts if anyone is there? |
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| 02:47.24 | Silviu- | Stavmar update bable-spell |
| 02:47.31 | Silviu- | Devla fixed it |
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| 02:51.21 | Ominous | which addon auto enables master loot |
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| 02:58.59 | kergoth | are the beta realms down? |
| 02:59.08 | kergoth | stuck at handshaking |
| 02:59.18 | juanvaldes | I curse you and your beta-ness! |
| 03:01.30 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:01.43 | kergoth | who's the prat guy again? it needs a "hide fubar plugin" options |
| 03:01.44 | kergoth | s/s$// |
| 03:02.00 | kergoth | woot, yata kicks ass |
| 03:02.04 | kergoth | no more callofelements for me |
| 03:02.09 | ag` | funny, I don't think I can see my prat on my fubar |
| 03:02.23 | kergoth | the fubar plugin was added very recently |
| 03:02.30 | kergoth | before it was available in a seperate addon only |
| 03:04.36 | kenlyric | my prat is so awesome it has two fubar plugins. |
| 03:04.56 | kenlyric | NEITHER of which can be hidden without disabling the mod. |
| 03:05.07 | Silviu- | kenlyric delete Fubar_PratFu |
| 03:05.08 | Silviu- | :) |
| 03:05.25 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07v2.0 * r21504 10DKPmon/DKPmon/ (15 files in 9 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 -- Additions to design doc, and first commit of Logging class. |
| 03:05.30 | kenlyric | how did I get two mods, that's what I want to know! |
| 03:05.53 | kenlyric | it's a wonderful miracle, mods made babies. |
| 03:06.30 | mjc | deltron: pong |
| 03:06.35 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07v2.0 * r21505 10DKPmon/Bidder/ (Looting/lootitem.lua utils.lua): DKPmon: Bidder v2.0 -- Colour fixes in lootitem. |
| 03:06.56 | Silviu- | kenlyric sylvanaar added an Fubar pluggin incorporated |
| 03:07.00 | Silviu- | That is why u got 2 :) |
| 03:07.03 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07v2.0 * r21506 10DKPmon/DKPmon_FCZS/ (custom.lua fczs.lua): DKPmon: FCZS -- Fixes to licence. |
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| 03:07.32 | mjc | Xuerian: pong |
| 03:07.40 | Xuerian | mjc: you pinged me? |
| 03:07.47 | mjc | you messaged me |
| 03:07.56 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07v2.0 * r21507 10DKPmon/DKPmon_eqDKP/ (8 files in 2 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 import eqDKP export module. |
| 03:08.14 | Xuerian | mjc: oh yeah. |
| 03:09.01 | Ominous | eraslin: you here? |
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| 03:11.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 03:12.13 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:12.17 | deltron | mjc: heh been playing zelda |
| 03:12.28 | mjc | ew |
| 03:12.40 | mjc | rather be stabbed in the eye repeatedly |
| 03:12.42 | Xuerian | o/ ck. |
| 03:13.12 | mjc | ckknight: o/ \o o/ \o |
| 03:13.43 | ckknight | ? |
| 03:13.43 | Xuerian | I've been outdone <.< |
| 03:13.48 | mjc | :P |
| 03:13.51 | ckknight | what is o/? |
| 03:13.58 | Xuerian | o = head. / = arm. |
| 03:13.58 | mjc | raising hand |
| 03:14.51 | ckknight | ah |
| 03:14.53 | ckknight | I see |
| 03:14.57 | ckknight | don't do that to me |
| 03:15.01 | Xuerian | ... |
| 03:15.04 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 03:15.10 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.47 | ckknight | <(^^<) dance! (>^^)> |
| 03:16.56 | Silviu- | ckknight hello |
| 03:17.04 | Xuerian | (>.>) .... (<.<)..... (>^-^<) .... ( >^) ... >( );( )< ..... ( ( ( ( <( >^) |
| 03:17.23 | Silviu- | ckknight vhaarr moddifed AceAddon and told u to check it he made 1 revision back |
| 03:17.26 | ckknight | some of those are just odd |
| 03:17.39 | Xuerian | tehee. |
| 03:18.45 | ckknight | Silviu-, hrm, I'm at work right now |
| 03:18.48 | ckknight | I'm gonna go home |
| 03:18.53 | ckknight | cya in an hour and a half |
| 03:18.56 | ckknight | I'll check then |
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| 03:23.26 | DrZoot | Does anyone use anything other than Photoshop for Textures? Its TGA handling is really starting to shit me |
| 03:24.13 | Xuerian | cs2 works just fine |
| 03:24.26 | Xuerian | Make your image like any normal transparent image |
| 03:24.35 | Xuerian | Select a backdrop color that will flatter it the most |
| 03:24.48 | Xuerian | use ctrl-click on layers to select everything you want shown |
| 03:24.53 | Xuerian | new alpha layer (only one) |
| 03:24.55 | Xuerian | save |
| 03:25.59 | DrZoot | I know exactly how to use it, but its alpha handling is inconsistant |
| 03:28.06 | Kemayo | Anyone know off the top of their head whether there's a way to tell whether nameplates are currently enabled? |
| 03:28.08 | DrZoot | Ive created all of my textures in a vector graphics program and exported them as PNG (the only format i can export as). I open them in photoshop and do everything i want to with them (add some fancy filters and then add an alpha channel) then when I save, 9 times out of 10 the alpha channel doesnt save with them |
| 03:28.59 | DrZoot | It seems that PS wont save the alpha channel right unless the file has already been saved as a TGA' |
| 03:29.14 | Xuerian | Don't know what to tell you. I've done them just fine from png and bmp's. |
| 03:29.37 | mjc | DrZoot: sounds like your vector graphics app isn't writing correct alpha |
| 03:29.55 | mjc | or correct header of some kind |
| 03:30.03 | DrZoot | Im not using the vector graphics app for the alpha, Im doing that all in PS |
| 03:30.14 | Xuerian | Use the stroke test :) |
| 03:30.16 | mjc | then it's got corrupted headers or something |
| 03:30.29 | mjc | DrZoot: inspect it with graphics workshop or something like that. there are tons of tools for it |
| 03:31.02 | DrZoot | I suppose thats what you get for using open sauce :( Inkscape ftl |
| 03:31.24 | mjc | inkscape is nice but its windows versions are iff |
| 03:31.25 | mjc | y |
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| 03:32.22 | DrZoot | Looks like its time to downlo .... I mean buy Illustrator |
| 03:32.47 | mjc | heh |
| 03:32.54 | mjc | illi-gay-tor |
| 03:34.07 | Xuerian | And what do you use, mjc? :p |
| 03:34.39 | mjc | I don't do much vector stuff anymore, but inkscape used to work fine in linux back in the day |
| 03:35.32 | ag` | anyway |
| 03:35.36 | ag` | time for bed |
| 03:35.47 | ag` | here's something to cheer everyone up |
| 03:35.47 | ag` | http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/8/89/resistance.png |
| 03:37.31 | Ominous | nevcairiel: Are you here? |
| 03:41.12 | KarlThePagan | hey ag have you thought about doing focustarget or focustargettarget windows? |
| 03:41.21 | KarlThePagan | woulud be pretty useful imo |
| 03:41.48 | KarlThePagan | ag`, ^ |
| 03:44.15 | nymbia | mmm... sushi. |
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| 03:51.59 | Fudge | ag`, lol, thanks. ;P That picture's perfect for my guild.. we've a standing 'horsecock' joke going on.. |
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| 03:52.35 | Xuerian | Haha. Standing. |
| 03:52.37 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 03:52.40 | mjc | heh |
| 03:53.28 | Fudge | ;P |
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| 03:56.29 | kebinusan | If you somehow manage to get 20 druids so all 40 debuff slots are taken from just mangles and rips it would give a 190x multiplier to bleed effects, resulting in 50,000 per tick rips (assuming a normal tick of 263). With 20 druids that's 500,000 raid DPS. You could do loatheb without any consumables. Hell you could kill most bosses within the 12 second period of the first rip. |
| 03:56.47 | kebinusan | funny |
| 03:57.10 | Garoun|Loupana | I think they removed the stacking for druids and mangle |
| 03:57.35 | Xuerian | Rofl. |
| 03:57.53 | Garoun|Loupana | stacked druid mangle is brutal |
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| 03:58.28 | Xuerian | I haven't even used it yet.. |
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| 04:00.10 | Kemayo | Damn. I can't do my nameplate scanning thing while nameplates are disabled without making the plates flicker. |
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| 04:10.11 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21508 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Re-enable scan. Less functional than before -- will now check the targets of everyone in the party, and nameplates if they're enabled. |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r21509 10SilverDragon/ (Libs/ SilverDragon.toc): SilverDragon: Add AceHook-2.1 to toc and libs. |
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| 04:13.46 | nife | any idea when the bartender3 keybinding system is going to be more complete ? I ts stopping me from using the bliz keybindings menu and its menusystem only allows one binding per key. That SUCKS |
| 04:13.56 | Sparhawke | yea its bad :( |
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| 04:15.13 | nife | I'm contemplating picking lua back up just to fix that. Its gotten me killed so many times lately its not funny |
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| 04:16.09 | ZealotOnAStick | OMG . . . |
| 04:16.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Finally got to do Patchwerk with a shadow priest. |
| 04:16.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Other lock and I in the group were #1 and #2. |
| 04:17.37 | Daemona | hrhr |
| 04:18.01 | Daemona | guess the warlock did wet his pants becuase of all the vampiric touch and embrace |
| 04:18.04 | Daemona | *laughs* |
| 04:19.26 | ZealotOnAStick | It was nice. Been trying to get our guild leader to give us a permanent shadow priest for about 6 months now. |
| 04:19.37 | ZealotOnAStick | I was #6 on patch last week without a shadow priest. |
| 04:21.36 | KarlThePagan | i'm threatening my guild to go shadow |
| 04:21.50 | KarlThePagan | i think i have their blessing since we're not raiding |
| 04:21.54 | Fudge | My guild just let everyone spec whatever they wanted now 'til BC. ;P |
| 04:22.03 | Fudge | Got about six Shadow Priests on our raids now.. |
| 04:23.52 | kebinusan | hmm do I need to change something in thaddius arrows with the latest bigwigs it doesnt show up in the extras menu anymore |
| 04:24.34 | Silviu- | kebinusan update Aceaddon |
| 04:24.51 | kebinusan | it doesnt use aceaddon |
| 04:25.08 | Silviu- | Trust me :) |
| 04:25.10 | kebinusan | well as a dep of bigwigs I guess, lemme reloadui first |
| 04:26.06 | kebinusan | ding ding ding, danke |
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| 04:27.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Our guild is actually still raiding and trying to progress. We want to drop KT before BC, but the holidays are going to impede that. |
| 04:27.19 | KarlThePagan | yea... we said that about c'thun |
| 04:27.29 | KarlThePagan | too many tanks missing and broodlord owns us |
| 04:27.35 | KarlThePagan | hit a tank for 6k |
| 04:27.51 | kebinusan | I always forget what way to move rely too much on the arrows |
| 04:28.06 | kebinusan | I should add some message to ThadArrow |
| 04:29.20 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21510 10Chronometer/Data/ (Druid.lua Hunter.lua Mage.lua Paladin.lua Priest.lua): |
| 04:29.20 | CIA-17 | Chronometer: |
| 04:29.20 | CIA-17 | - Fixed some icons that were not showing up properly |
| 04:29.20 | CIA-17 | - Modified Priest 'Touch of Weakness', needs testing |
| 04:29.20 | CIA-17 | - Added Priest 'Armor of Faith', tx brotherhobbes |
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| 04:41.49 | kebinusan | I need a mod to block damage meter spam in raid and guild chats |
| 04:41.52 | kebinusan | so annoying |
| 04:42.18 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21511 10Prat/modules/ (ChannelColorMemory.lua ChannelSeparator.lua): Prat: Bugfixes |
| 04:44.58 | Funkeh` | wee someone made AoF work :p |
| 04:45.14 | Eternally777 | Whatever happened to that one guy who wanted to make an deuce'd DM that would allow users to filter that stuff out? |
| 04:45.44 | Eternally777 | Oh wait... nvm |
| 04:46.27 | Barbanus | Heh our first AQ40 clear since the patch |
| 04:48.14 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21512 10Prat/modules/Buttons.lua: Prat: Use a new arrangement for chat buttons displayed on the frame |
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| 04:49.52 | Eternally777 | sylvanaar: ping? |
| 04:50.33 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r21513 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus-frFR.lua: |
| 04:50.33 | CIA-17 | GrindStatus: |
| 04:50.33 | CIA-17 | - Added frFR. Thanks, leenadr! |
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| 04:51.33 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r21514 10GrindStatus/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:51.33 | CIA-17 | GrindStatus: |
| 04:51.33 | CIA-17 | - Commit all that frFR stuff, dammit! |
| 04:51.40 | Amadeo | Why am I getting stuff like this from vBagnon? |
| 04:51.43 | Amadeo | <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'vBagnon' tried to call the protected function 'TargetofTargetFrame:Hide()' |
| 04:51.51 | Amadeo | I can't imagine vBagnon does that |
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| 04:55.00 | kebinusan | its rpobably not vbagnon though it could be |
| 04:55.25 | kebinusan | disable vbagnon and see if it still happens |
| 04:56.50 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:58.19 | Amadeo | how can I even narrow it down? |
| 04:59.27 | Funkeh` | disable addons one by one |
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| 05:02.30 | Amadeo | oh boy |
| 05:02.36 | Amadeo | there really needs to be an alternative to that |
| 05:02.44 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:03.12 | nymbia | hey ck |
| 05:04.12 | Funkeh` | hey ck |
| 05:04.40 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 05:04.52 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21515 10MusicStream/MusicStream.lua: MusicStream: gotta add pulsradio, popular station |
| 05:05.06 | Funkeh` | bored, servers off :/ |
| 05:05.16 | ckknight | Funkeh`, hehe, taking advantage of PlayMusic? |
| 05:05.25 | Funkeh` | love it :) |
| 05:05.38 | ckknight | wonder, will they "fix" it? |
| 05:05.52 | Funkeh` | i thought that was the fix :P |
| 05:06.09 | Funkeh` | urls ftw |
| 05:06.24 | pastamancer | I'm still waiting for PlayMusicDKP |
| 05:06.47 | ckknight | why, pasta? |
| 05:07.02 | Fudge | :o |
| 05:07.03 | pastamancer | because it's the only way in/out of the sandbox that I know of |
| 05:07.05 | Fudge | MusicStream? |
| 05:07.21 | ckknight | tomorrow I get my wisdom teeth out |
| 05:07.46 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 05:07.46 | Fudge | ckknight, all of 'em? :o |
| 05:07.47 | pastamancer | ckknight: make sure they give you percoset, and enjoy drooling on yourself for the next couple of days |
| 05:07.57 | Funkeh` | how come? |
| 05:08.03 | ckknight | pastamancer, I think nitrous oxide actually |
| 05:08.09 | ckknight | Fudge, yep, all 4 |
| 05:08.18 | pastamancer | ckknight: nox is during, percoset is for afterwards |
| 05:08.20 | ckknight | Funkeh`, my mouth is crowded and they'll come in at a funny angle |
| 05:08.21 | Fudge | I had mine surgically removed, it was fun.. painkiller munching is happy time! |
| 05:08.23 | ckknight | pastamancer, hm |
| 05:08.32 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 05:08.53 | pastamancer | you'll get a painkiller perscription of some sort, be it percoset or tylenol-3 or gigantic ibproufen |
| 05:09.27 | Fetch_ | pastamancer: *snicker* play a bit too much KoL? |
| 05:09.32 | Fudge | But painkillers are for wussies. |
| 05:09.42 | pastamancer | Fetch: I have no idea what you're talking about! ;) |
| 05:09.48 | kebinusan | heh I got vicodin when they removed my wisdom teeth, thing like passing out with a bag of frozen peas on your face |
| 05:09.50 | Fudge | Kingdom of Loathing? |
| 05:09.58 | Fetch | Fudge: yeah |
| 05:10.06 | Fudge | Fetch, DIAF! |
| 05:10.51 | pastamancer | ckknight: also, I hope you like ice cream |
| 05:10.58 | ckknight | pastamancer, I don't |
| 05:11.11 | pastamancer | ckknight: that's a shame. you'll be off solid food for about a week |
| 05:11.23 | Fudge | Bah, that's not true. ;P |
| 05:11.24 | ckknight | not from what I've heard... |
| 05:11.30 | Fudge | I was having solids after one or two days. |
| 05:11.31 | pastamancer | that's how it was for me |
| 05:11.36 | pastamancer | 4-5 days |
| 05:11.38 | ckknight | well maybe you suck more? |
| 05:11.41 | pastamancer | haha |
| 05:11.45 | Fudge | He shoots, he scores. |
| 05:12.03 | pastamancer | they had to put me out completely when they removed my wisdom teeth, so mine could have been worse than yours |
| 05:13.41 | ckknight | how old were you? |
| 05:13.41 | kenlyric | depends on how far they have come out already. |
| 05:13.51 | kenlyric | they gave me 8 shots and took mine out. |
| 05:13.53 | ckknight | kenlyric, one has come out partially |
| 05:14.05 | pastamancer | hmm... I think I was 19 at the time |
| 05:14.07 | kenlyric | my friend went under general to get hers out. |
| 05:14.38 | kenlyric | I was eating normal by the next day, though I had to watch for the dreaded dry sockets! |
| 05:14.52 | kenlyric | NO SUCKING! |
| 05:14.53 | DrZoot | Dry Sockets? |
| 05:15.00 | pastamancer | had to get stitches to close up the holes |
| 05:15.18 | kenlyric | you know what mod really needs to come back? autobuff? has autobuff come back yet? |
| 05:15.42 | kenlyric | I'd have sex in an uncomfortable place for autobuff. |
| 05:15.42 | DrZoot | yeah, I miss autobuff |
| 05:16.07 | DrZoot | If only all of us were willing to make such sacrifices |
| 05:16.10 | DrZoot | :P |
| 05:16.35 | pastamancer | I can kinda guess, but what exactly did autobuff do? |
| 05:16.43 | CIA-17 | 03weab * r21516 10Automaton/modules/AutoQueue.lua: Automaton: AutoQueue will now always use the delay feature if the player is inside a battleground |
| 05:16.55 | kenlyric | I forgot mindlessly annoying it was to apply battleshout without it. |
| 05:17.00 | ckknight | Funkeh`, why do you use semicolons and unneeded parentheses? |
| 05:17.01 | ckknight | icky |
| 05:17.13 | Funkeh` | ckknight: its not my mod |
| 05:17.16 | kenlyric | it did self buffs automatically. |
| 05:17.18 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:17.20 | ckknight | whose is it? |
| 05:17.30 | Funkeh` | some unkown guy :P |
| 05:17.36 | kenlyric | so it would turn on your tracking after you died, and keep battle shout and inner fire up on you. |
| 05:18.01 | pastamancer | oh, it sounds like it wouldn't be usable in combat then |
| 05:18.13 | ckknight | it's not even Acey at all |
| 05:18.29 | kenlyric | probably wouldn't, which is why it hasn't been updated. |
| 05:18.38 | kenlyric | but I don't really need it to work in combat for most stuff. |
| 05:18.38 | Funkeh` | its a foobar plugin, so its somewhat |
| 05:18.46 | ckknight | Funkeh`, fubar |
| 05:19.15 | Funkeh` | fubar, sorry, too tired |
| 05:19.38 | Funkeh` | too much driving test studying |
| 05:19.43 | kenlyric | x = foo, y = bar |
| 05:20.13 | CIA-17 | 03weab * r21517 10Automaton/modules/AutoQueue.lua: Automaton: Wrong AutoQueue file version was committed. Oops, I suck. |
| 05:23.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Autobuff died essentially when they disallowed addons to do stuff from picking up movement keys. |
| 05:23.19 | ZealotOnAStick | there was a recode that tried to use the mouse wheel . . . |
| 05:23.25 | ZealotOnAStick | but I found it too annoying. |
| 05:23.26 | Gngsk | it worked |
| 05:24.35 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21518 10Prat/modules/ChannelRenumbering.lua: Prat: Fix for channels 1-3 being empty when sorting. |
| 05:27.51 | kenlyric | they changed it after that patch, where it worked witha whole slew of events other than the mouse wheel. |
| 05:29.19 | anenigma | getting an error in XLoot/XLoot.lua:111 : attempt to index local 'err' (a nil value) |
| 05:29.35 | Xuerian | anenigma: Got a debug stack? |
| 05:30.11 | anenigma | ooh. i do. pastey-fying. one tic |
| 05:31.21 | anenigma | http://ace.pastey.net/3788 <-- metrognome, archud2, buggrabber, xloot |
| 05:32.15 | Xuerian | Woo I get the big ones. Ookay, when did this sucker happen |
| 05:34.44 | anenigma | all the time it seems |
| 05:34.45 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21519 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Avoid errors on nil bugs. (Drycode) |
| 05:35.09 | Silviu- | anenigma ? i did not get one :( |
| 05:35.15 | anenigma | anywhere from fighting, looting, riding through the grass (aka autorun) |
| 05:35.32 | Daemona | grmbls |
| 05:35.41 | Daemona | beta realms are up again |
| 05:36.00 | Daemona | they raised the cost of scryer/aldor enchants from 1/5 to 2/8 marks |
| 05:36.02 | Silviu- | Daemona did u also had to download a 540 MB patch ? :/ |
| 05:36.11 | Daemona | 15mb |
| 05:36.21 | Silviu- | Ahm |
| 05:36.35 | Daemona | europe beta server |
| 05:36.38 | Xuerian | anenigma: Should work |
| 05:36.42 | Silviu- | I missed one patch, and maybe that is why |
| 05:37.06 | anenigma | Xuerian: yeah it's good so far (been going 2 mins without an error at least) |
| 05:37.21 | Daemona | Silviu- you must have missed more then one |
| 05:37.36 | Daemona | my last 3 patches are like 15 51 and 36 mb |
| 05:37.51 | Silviu- | Daemona last was that 51 MB |
| 05:37.57 | Silviu- | and i did not want to download it |
| 05:38.16 | Silviu- | And today when i wanted try something in BC, ups 540 MB download :) |
| 05:38.27 | Silviu- | Then got mad and deleted BC client |
| 05:38.30 | Silviu- | :/ |
| 05:38.42 | Daemona | lol :) |
| 05:39.59 | Daemona | ghosh |
| 05:40.12 | Daemona | something with aceevent.20 is wrong with the latest beta client |
| 05:40.19 | Daemona | i get an error every tick... |
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| 05:42.58 | Daemona | time to run wau on the beta client i guess :/ |
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| 05:47.21 | Velkyn | Anyone out there able to help me with the command to make pets use their skills? |
| 05:47.42 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.10 | Velkyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.33 | Velkyn | .. /cast petability(#)? |
| 05:53.42 | nymbia | ./cast whateverpetskill |
| 05:53.51 | nymbia | ie /cast Firebolt |
| 05:54.04 | Gngsk | that won't work for frostmage's elemental pet |
| 05:54.09 | Gngsk | Frost Nova and Frost Nova |
| 05:54.10 | Gngsk | QQ |
| 05:54.17 | nymbia | Gngsk: its named freeze now |
| 05:54.32 | nymbia | on the elemental |
| 05:54.39 | Daemona | any1 can tell me were to report bugs concerning 2.0 addons used on closed beta? |
| 05:54.42 | Gngsk | not on live servers. |
| 05:55.53 | Velkyn | so .. /cast Seduction %t should work? |
| 05:56.24 | nymbia | why %t? |
| 05:56.36 | Velkyn | For my target, or is that assumed? |
| 05:57.08 | sylvanaar | ok skinner looks cool, but whats the point of all the options in it? |
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| 05:57.36 | nymbia | its assumed. and for times that it isnt. you wouldnt use %t, you'd use [target=target] |
| 05:58.03 | Velkyn | Ah okay, thanks. |
| 05:58.25 | Velkyn | Is there some way to like [target=diamond] to target specifically raid-marked mobs? |
| 05:59.01 | sylvanaar | i think they actually said they wouldnt do that - maybe im wrong |
| 05:59.14 | Velkyn | interesting. |
| 06:00.24 | CIA-17 | 03jayhawk * r21520 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (. FuBar_PetInfoFu.toc PetInfoFu-readme.txt PetInfoFu.lua): |
| 06:00.24 | CIA-17 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 06:00.24 | CIA-17 | - added sorting on when first stabled pet. |
| 06:00.24 | CIA-17 | -- tried to reduce event triggering (UNIT_HAPPINESS) |
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| 06:13.51 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21521 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/FuBarPlugin-1.2/: !!!StandaloneLibraries: remove old fubarplugin |
| 06:14.07 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21522 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/BabbleLib/: !!!StandaloneLibraries: remove old babble |
| 06:14.17 | ckknight | anyone have a diff of the beta patch? |
| 06:14.26 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07v2.0 * r21523 10DKPmon/ (24 files in 14 dirs): DKPmon: v2.0 -- Fixes to logging, eqDKP export. Updated docs. Removed character guild attribute (wasn't working right). |
| 06:15.15 | Funkeh` | nope |
| 06:15.21 | Funkeh` | the one just today yeah? |
| 06:15.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:16.18 | Funkeh` | no idea, yet |
| 06:16.32 | Funkeh` | we don't use spellcache and satus lib anymore do we? |
| 06:16.37 | Funkeh` | status* |
| 06:17.02 | ZealotOnAStick | a diff of it? |
| 06:17.35 | CIA-17 | 03ricowan * r21524 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc): |
| 06:17.35 | CIA-17 | RicoMiniMap: |
| 06:17.35 | CIA-17 | - |
| 06:17.35 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Grr. Hogfather Part 2 needs to download faster. |
| 06:17.59 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick, diff of the framexml |
| 06:18.01 | CIA-17 | 03jayhawk * r21525 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/FuBar_SkillsPlusFu.toc: |
| 06:18.01 | CIA-17 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 06:18.01 | CIA-17 | - fixed typo in authorname |
| 06:18.23 | Funkeh` | both 11200 so i guess not |
| 06:19.42 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21526 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/SpellStatusLib/: !!!StandaloneLibraries: remove spellstatuslib |
| 06:19.58 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21527 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/SpellCacheLib/: !!!StandaloneLibraries: remove spellcachelib |
| 06:20.34 | CIA-17 | 03jayhawk * r21528 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt/ (7 files): |
| 06:20.34 | CIA-17 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt: initial commit |
| 06:20.35 | CIA-17 | - Shows all skills in a tool tip and allows you to quickly select/reselect one of them. |
| 06:21.10 | pastamancer | my kingdom for a technical writer |
| 06:22.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:22.19 | ckknight | I was one of those once |
| 06:22.47 | pastamancer | who knew there was lots of reading involved in learning how to write good documentation! |
| 06:23.16 | ckknight | oh, totally |
| 06:23.26 | ckknight | but good docs are important |
| 06:23.32 | pastamancer | oh, absolutely |
| 06:23.33 | ckknight | just view the reader as incompetent |
| 06:23.44 | ckknight | and write for said incompetent reader |
| 06:23.57 | ckknight | at least preliminarily |
| 06:24.02 | pastamancer | heh, you're leaving a lot unsaid there |
| 06:24.06 | ckknight | when outlaying a specification, you could get into details |
| 06:24.46 | pastamancer | I'm leaning towards task-based, generally progressing in complexity and then a (separate) general reference |
| 06:26.30 | pastamancer | I need good verbage for "Hey, try this at home" sections where the user is supposed to follow along and try changing settings in-game. |
| 06:26.49 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21529 10/tags/FuBarPlugin-1.2/: FuBarPlugin-1.2: tagged |
| 06:26.51 | pastamancer | a catch title for those sections would be a big help |
| 06:26.54 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 06:27.05 | pastamancer | s/catch/catchy/ |
| 06:27.47 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21530 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/: Removed file/folder |
| 06:27.47 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21531 10SpellBinder/ (4 files): |
| 06:27.47 | CIA-17 | SpellBinder: |
| 06:27.47 | CIA-17 | - add Korean localization |
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| 06:28.17 | cheers | pastamancer: what're you documenting? |
| 06:28.22 | pastamancer | Grid |
| 06:28.27 | cheers | oooh fun |
| 06:28.48 | pastamancer | heh |
| 06:29.07 | pastamancer | that's why it needs to be broken up into tasks |
| 06:29.13 | cheers | right, but that's my point. |
| 06:29.30 | cheers | if I install grid, I want to do something, in particular, most likely, and i'm looking for that one thing |
| 06:29.31 | pastamancer | like "Grid for Druids > Showing Regrowth on units" |
| 06:30.04 | cheers | or rather, if I open grid's documentation, I want one particular thing. |
| 06:30.04 | Funkeh` | my solution to my guild asking 'how do i do this?' is usualy, read the menu |
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| 06:30.15 | Funkeh` | and it works |
| 06:30.29 | Funkeh` | they want an easy way out, so force em to learn it |
| 06:30.45 | cheers | Funkeh`: you overestimate the intellegence of users ;) |
| 06:30.53 | pastamancer | vastly so |
| 06:30.55 | Funkeh` | true |
| 06:31.00 | cheers | (and i say that with the utmost affection for the people who pay my company to let me code all day) |
| 06:31.47 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21532 10/tags/SpellCacheLib/: SpellCacheLib: tagged |
| 06:32.07 | cheers | pastamancer: I'd say something like "follow these steps to do <foo>" |
| 06:32.15 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21533 10/tags/SpellStatusLib/: SpellStatusLib: tagged |
| 06:32.18 | DrZoot | I tried to get my guild to convert from RDX to Grid, no dice. Theyre terminaly addicted to "flashy stuff". |
| 06:32.24 | cheers | lol |
| 06:32.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I usually take the approach of "I dunno, check play with the menus." then do that, find it myself, tell them, and say "See, I figured that out from the menus that fast." |
| 06:32.48 | Funkeh` | thats why i took 2.0 with every advantage i had and converted basically my whole guild to ace2 mods |
| 06:32.51 | cheers | we're big on "do whatever the hell you want, just show up ready to go" with us |
| 06:33.03 | Funkeh` | thaddius runs are so much smoother |
| 06:33.08 | cheers | lol |
| 06:33.16 | DrZoot | The stupid thing about it is with the 2.0 patch RDX is really badly broken and yet they still insist on trying to use it |
| 06:33.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I tried for nearly a month to tell people "Look, Grid + Clique, start using them now, you're going to be doing this after the patch" |
| 06:33.39 | pastamancer | heh |
| 06:33.45 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21534 10SpellCacheLib/: Removed file/folder |
| 06:33.50 | Xuerian | And of course, the "How to find the menu" tutorial is always fun |
| 06:33.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I wrote nice posts with images of how to use them, tried to keep it informative yet concise enough that I didn't get "tldr" responses . . . |
| 06:33.54 | cheers | so, I'm looking @ this pre-2.0 mod (someone else's code origionally), and I've got it all working except that i get the "bad mod!" dialog when it calls 'UseContainerItem' |
| 06:34.03 | pastamancer | cheers: I'll probably end up going with something like that |
| 06:34.03 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21535 10SpellStatusLib/: Removed file/folder |
| 06:34.07 | cheers | I've looked around & info on whehter there's a way around it is slim... |
| 06:34.20 | kergoth | cheers, you cant call usecontaineritem anymore. |
| 06:34.24 | pastamancer | I wish it were easier to do sidebars in wiki pages |
| 06:34.37 | ZealotOnAStick | and then when we finally get into Naxx after the patch, and people are crying because CTRA is borked, I repeat as a mantra "Give grid a serious try with Clique." |
| 06:34.47 | ZealotOnAStick | and then 80% of them are like "Hey, this Grid thing is pretty cool!" |
| 06:34.54 | ZealotOnAStick | which resulted in my wanting to murder them. |
| 06:34.58 | pastamancer | haha |
| 06:35.06 | Xuerian | Timon and Pumba, I'm telling you |
| 06:35.32 | pastamancer | It seems that anyone willing to spend at least 3 minutes figuring out what grid does and how it is organized tends to really like it. |
| 06:35.48 | Funkeh` | is there a wiki page or guide to standalone libraries? |
| 06:35.51 | ZealotOnAStick | There's one I've written off as a hopeless cause. |
| 06:35.54 | cheers | ZealotOnAStick: sounds familiar |
| 06:35.57 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: Two |
| 06:35.59 | ZealotOnAStick | He keeps saying "Grid is too ugly." |
| 06:36.03 | pastamancer | but there's always people that go "omg squares wtf?!?!?!" |
| 06:36.04 | cheers | lol |
| 06:36.11 | ZealotOnAStick | I respond with "It's not meant to be pretty, it's meant to be useful and efficient." |
| 06:36.12 | DrZoot | I have a guy in my guild who cant be assed actually learning grid so he uses Ag unit frames for his healing frames and uses Grid as his dispelling frames |
| 06:36.13 | cheers | squares are scary, pastamancer! |
| 06:36.22 | cheers | lol DrZoot |
| 06:36.35 | pastamancer | cheers: I know! Perhaps we need CyCircled for Grid :p |
| 06:36.35 | Funkeh` | got direct links? :P |
| 06:36.46 | ZealotOnAStick | But then . . . |
| 06:36.52 | cheers | pastamancer: see, if they were bar shaped like us silly little priests are used to... |
| 06:36.54 | Fudge | pastamancer, I want one that changes the shape of the boxes to dollar signs.. |
| 06:36.54 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: justfuckinggoogleit.com |
| 06:36.56 | cheers | it wouldn't be so scary! |
| 06:36.57 | ZealotOnAStick | what would it be, if it wasn't arrangement of rectangles? |
| 06:36.59 | Xuerian | ^really works |
| 06:37.03 | Funkeh` | i hate you.. |
| 06:37.05 | ZealotOnAStick | You can make them rectangular really easily. |
| 06:37.09 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 06:37.12 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 06:37.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I played with it to do that. And hated it. |
| 06:37.17 | cheers | ZealotOnAStick: but they don't start that way |
| 06:37.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Then didn't remember what the default height/width setting were. |
| 06:37.33 | kergoth | oh noes, people having to configure things.. whatever will they do! |
| 06:37.44 | pastamancer | yeah, I added the second text indicator and the height/width settings just so people would shut up about them and see what a bad idea they were |
| 06:37.56 | Fetch | really, someone needs to come up with a healing grid that takes about 3/4 of the screen, changes the cursor to a mallet, and pops up a mole head for people at dangerously low health values |
| 06:37.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I like the second text indicator, actually. |
| 06:37.59 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: Links coming up in a minute, google fails |
| 06:38.06 | Funkeh` | <3 |
| 06:38.14 | pastamancer | I still need a good mole graphic for the low health indicator |
| 06:38.14 | DrZoot | I didnt mind the second text, but didnt like the default settings for it |
| 06:38.20 | pastamancer | s/indicator/status/ |
| 06:38.41 | Xuerian | http://wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons |
| 06:38.42 | Fetch | pastamancer: the guild webserver went dead-hooker, otherwise I'd shoot you a good URL to use |
| 06:38.58 | cheers | o.O |
| 06:39.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Too bad it's not a gopher thing. |
| 06:39.18 | ZealotOnAStick | If it was, I'd so be ripping Caddyshack for you. |
| 06:39.19 | cheers | kergoth: you'd be surprised how valueable a GOOD set of defaults is |
| 06:39.24 | cheers | actually you probably wouldn't |
| 06:39.29 | Fetch | ZealotOnAStick: man, that would be awesome too |
| 06:39.31 | cheers | but still... the more familiar something looks by default... |
| 06:39.41 | kergoth | i worked tech support :P |
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| 06:39.45 | pastamancer | yeah, good defaults go a long way |
| 06:40.16 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm tempted to replace them in the next raid pack I zip up for my guild. |
| 06:40.21 | Funkeh` | fetch take your idea and burn it |
| 06:40.23 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 06:40.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Just to see what kind of reactions it gets on vent. |
| 06:40.40 | ZealotOnAStick | but I haven't figured out something quite funny and yet offensive enough. |
| 06:41.01 | Fudge | Fetch, make it the Benny Hill theme. |
| 06:41.07 | DrZoot | Ive stopped helping/advising people on mods, they always expect me to work out all of their problems |
| 06:41.10 | cheers | foo |
| 06:41.24 | cheers | blech. stupid fn button |
| 06:41.35 | Xuerian | DrZoot: Then they insult your addon because it doesn't look as good at initial loadup as the other one. |
| 06:41.41 | cheers | nooooo i like the FF victory music!! |
| 06:42.00 | pastamancer | Fetch: DJ Format |
| 06:42.19 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21536 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix koKR range check |
| 06:42.41 | DrZoot | Xuerian: Exactly. |
| 06:43.02 | cheers | DrZoot: it all depends. I'll provide a link, and if there's something i've managed to figure out they haven't, I'll share |
| 06:43.10 | cheers | but, "how doyou use it?" is...well scary. |
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| 06:43.35 | Fetch | Fudge: Benny Hill theme would be for the encounter itself. "I'm All Right" would be the post-fight music |
| 06:43.42 | cheers | lol |
| 06:43.50 | cheers | Benny Hill would be suitable for a few fights... |
| 06:43.54 | DrZoot | Im talking about stuff like "Yeah I kinda like it but I want all the Health bars to be pink and then shade into bright orange when the health is low, how do i do that?" |
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| 06:44.02 | cheers | someone should slip it into the Thaddius Arrows plugin :D |
| 06:44.12 | Fetch | cheers: everthing after BWL ;) |
| 06:44.22 | cheers | Fetch: yeah |
| 06:44.23 | pastamancer | DrZoot: haha, those "feature" requests kill me |
| 06:44.45 | sylvanaar | people like to interact and feel special |
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| 06:45.00 | neenee | Everyone wants to feel special. |
| 06:45.01 | ZealotOnAStick | People in my guild have enough problems with Thaddius Arrows, I'm not going to do anything to further confuse them and then end up with the blame. |
| 06:45.08 | markv | ok man that's lame, copied my warrior over to the beta, been 60 for 2 years now and i don't have full rested xp! |
| 06:45.18 | DrZoot | pastamancer: Those sorts of requests and 4 hour long AV's tend to destroy my belief in humanity |
| 06:45.24 | Arrowmaster | they reset everybodys reseted xp |
| 06:45.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah. That's going to piss off a lot of people who don't read up on those things. |
| 06:45.43 | Ceriwaen | Can anybody help me with some AceComm-2.0 issues? |
| 06:45.48 | Fetch | gah, I don't remember where I read it, but an author wrote about people's tendency to do that as the "barn color" process. People might not feel qualified to give an opinion on how to build a barn, so they make up for that by giving their input on superficial crap like the color |
| 06:46.00 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21537 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/!!!StandaloneLibraries.toc: !!!StandaloneLibraries: update toc |
| 06:46.15 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/!!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 06:46.21 | Funkeh` | ill update it when i wake up :P |
| 06:46.27 | Xuerian | lol, Fetch. |
| 06:46.52 | cheers | ZealotOnAStick: aww |
| 06:47.02 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 06:47.05 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: the whole concept of bla |
| 06:47.06 | Xuerian | wait a minute |
| 06:47.09 | Xuerian | not done railing you |
| 06:47.11 | Xuerian | sit down, boy |
| 06:47.20 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 06:47.39 | Xuerian | the whole concept of !!!StandaloneLibraries as the magic bullet is out of hand. |
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| 06:47.57 | Xuerian | It's just zips that make it easier for you to put a checkmark by all the addons in WAU |
| 06:47.58 | Ceriwaen | Anybody know anything about getting disconnects when using any AceComm channel other than guild? |
| 06:48.00 | pastamancer | Xuerian: agreed. I wish it would go away |
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| 06:48.12 | Funkeh` | thats what the page will explain |
| 06:48.37 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: In addition to the two pages that detail the proper usage of the addon in the proper places they should be? (WAU's page, and updating addons page) |
| 06:48.37 | Funkeh` | but its nearly 7 am and im in no mental state to type properly |
| 06:48.43 | Xuerian | nyyyyrrr |
| 06:48.49 | Xuerian | >.<... o/ |
| 06:49.43 | Funkeh` | i will make something decent out of it |
| 06:49.50 | Xuerian | Go to bed. :P |
| 06:49.55 | Funkeh` | but for now, good night :) |
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| 06:55.02 | cheers | k, the BF's giving me the "you stole the laptop" look, so I'd better give it back. good luck w/ the documentation, pastamancer |
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| 06:55.46 | pastamancer | it's on the wiki, you're more than welcome to help out :) |
| 06:56.14 | juanvaldes | apparently she does not hate herself. but I'm not so sure.... |
| 06:56.23 | pastamancer | heh |
| 06:56.59 | pastamancer | it's a good cause |
| 06:57.07 | juanvaldes | lol |
| 06:57.24 | juanvaldes | I think your winning. link? |
| 06:57.45 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:Grid_User%27s_Documentation |
| 06:57.56 | pastamancer | that's the discussion page |
| 06:58.17 | pastamancer | just think, formal documentation for a wow addon, it's revolutionary! :p |
| 06:58.30 | juanvaldes | lies |
| 06:59.05 | juanvaldes | thats a myth like class balance and fairies! |
| 06:59.21 | pastamancer | haha |
| 07:00.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I like Blizzard's concept of class balance. But then, you've got to play the game long enough to get it. |
| 07:00.38 | ZealotOnAStick | It's simple: everyone gets their turn to be powerful, and everyone gets their turn to suck. |
| 07:00.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Some classes . . . just get more turns of one or the other. |
| 07:00.57 | Xuerian | Haha |
| 07:01.05 | juanvaldes | some classes turn seems to go on forever ;) |
| 07:04.15 | DrZoot | imho warlocks need a bit of a buff atm |
| 07:04.17 | DrZoot | :P |
| 07:04.27 | juanvaldes | hunters too |
| 07:04.35 | juanvaldes | just not within a mile of pvp ;) |
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| 07:05.57 | anenigma | is it possible that archud2 is automatically enabling nameplates somehow? or another mod? cause something is, and it's freakin annoying |
| 07:06.27 | Arrowmaster | automation? |
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| 07:06.46 | anenigma | ooh |
| 07:06.48 | ckknight_ | can someone on beta zip up the new framexml and send it to me? |
| 07:06.50 | anenigma | that's probably it |
| 07:07.08 | anenigma | thanks :) |
| 07:07.12 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: Sure. How? |
| 07:07.16 | pastamancer | ~framexml |
| 07:07.18 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 07:10.59 | ZealotOnAStick | their support site seems to be borked. |
| 07:11.48 | pastamancer | ckknight_: http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/Blizzard%20Interface%20Data%20(enUS)%202.0.3.6244.zip |
| 07:12.12 | ckknight_ | thank you |
| 07:12.24 | ZealotOnAStick | the whole framexml folder? |
| 07:12.30 | ZealotOnAStick | bah |
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| 07:13.15 | Greywind | hooray for a ton of errors in TBC >.< |
| 07:14.12 | ckknight_ | who wants a diff? |
| 07:14.44 | pastamancer | anything exciting in the diff? |
| 07:15.12 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/3792 |
| 07:15.45 | ckknight | no longer using TEXT(), apparently |
| 07:16.23 | sylvanaar | sounds like n nightmare |
| 07:16.35 | ckknight | ## Interface: 20003 |
| 07:16.36 | ckknight | wtf |
| 07:17.13 | Greywind | seems like they changed the tooltips again >.M |
| 07:18.14 | Greywind | imma just go to bed, i was looking forward to getting my lock to 63 but bleh, no addons = no fun |
| 07:19.15 | pastamancer | groupingOrder = [STRING] - specifies the order of the groupings (ie. "1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8") |
| 07:19.25 | pastamancer | maxColumns = [NUMBER] - maximum number of columns the header will create (Default: 1) |
| 07:19.35 | Arrowmaster | why do they use ; everywhere |
| 07:19.36 | pastamancer | unitsPerColumn = [NUMBER or nil] - maximum units that will be displayed in a singe column, nil is infinate (Default: nil) |
| 07:19.57 | pastamancer | !!! that'll shut some people up |
| 07:20.17 | Xuerian | Why do they do things so redundantly =| |
| 07:20.40 | pastamancer | I (don't know); What (you mean);;;;; |
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| 07:21.45 | Xuerian | Bahahaha... I snorted with that one XD... There goes the witty response. Anyhow, nn. |
| 07:21.55 | pastamancer | it looks like they just run all their lua code through an in-house lint/indent "beautifier" |
| 07:21.59 | ckknight | hang on, got a better version |
| 07:22.04 | Elkano | wobin: ReverseEngineering\\ReverseEngineering.lua:41: AceHook-2.1: \"OnClick\" already has an active hook from this source. |
| 07:22.09 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/3793 <--- better diff |
| 07:22.18 | Wobin | Elkano: hum |
| 07:22.19 | pastamancer | -u this time? |
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| 07:22.27 | Wobin | Elkano: I'll have a look at it |
| 07:22.31 | pastamancer | yay |
| 07:22.39 | Arrowmaster | ah thats more readable |
| 07:23.01 | ckknight | yea, pastamancer |
| 07:24.19 | |s|Sparhawk | this is stupid |
| 07:24.27 | |s|Sparhawk | mt |
| 07:24.32 | Xuerian | Easier to read is a relative term |
| 07:24.41 | Xuerian | Sure it's easier to see, but it reveals more of the horror that is the default ui |
| 07:24.45 | Xuerian | :P |
| 07:24.47 | pastamancer | heh, all the TEXT() changes make it hard to find what actually changed |
| 07:26.14 | ckknight | I'm looking through it to find anything major |
| 07:26.32 | pastamancer | SecureRaidGroupHeader got some nice changes |
| 07:26.38 | ckknight | GetMouseButtonClicked() |
| 07:26.45 | ckknight | GetRunningMacroButton() |
| 07:26.49 | ckknight | didn't know about those |
| 07:27.06 | ckknight | oh woot: function IsSecureCmd(command) |
| 07:27.10 | ckknight | Tem, :-) |
| 07:27.20 | Wobin | hehe |
| 07:27.35 | Wobin | you know you're downloading a popular torrent when seeders = 2232 |
| 07:27.44 | Greywind | o.0 |
| 07:27.58 | Xuerian | ckknight: As in if IsSecureCmd(LootSlot) do blizzard:kill() end ? |
| 07:28.26 | ckknight | Xuerian, no, if IsSecureCmd("/cast") then don't tab-complete end |
| 07:28.39 | Wobin | Greywind: Hogfather |
| 07:28.42 | Xuerian | Well.... That makes more sense... I stand by my example, though. |
| 07:29.13 | ckknight | added /dismount |
| 07:29.29 | Xuerian | hardware sound acceleration options |
| 07:29.53 | Arrowmaster | you need to find out if Dismount() requires a hardware event |
| 07:30.18 | Xuerian | IsRealPartyLeader/GetRealNumPartyMembers/GetRealNumRaidMembers? Did I miss fake raids? |
| 07:30.20 | Greywind | Wobin: ahh, interesting. |
| 07:30.27 | Iceroth | Arrowmaster, it really shouldn't.. |
| 07:30.34 | Iceroth | since it's only cancelling a buff |
| 07:30.56 | Arrowmaster | Iceroth: yeah i know im going to laugh when somebody gets there ass killed by an addon dismounting them in the air tough |
| 07:31.06 | Iceroth | :D |
| 07:31.13 | Iceroth | what a perfect idea :D |
| 07:31.44 | Arrowmaster | but i dont want to see CancelPlayerBuff() get protected any so i can make sure i get misdirection off me asap |
| 07:32.55 | Iceroth | if (UnitName("mouseover") == "Iceroth" or UnitName("target") == "Iceroth") and IsFlying() then Dismount() end |
| 07:33.09 | Iceroth | what an innocent piece of code buried somewhere deep in some common addon ;) |
| 07:33.32 | ckknight | fixes to FloatingChatFrame.xml apparently |
| 07:33.48 | Arrowmaster | ill laugh when you press F1 then |
| 07:34.04 | Iceroth | :p |
| 07:34.12 | Iceroth | well it needs some fine tuning ;) |
| 07:34.28 | Iceroth | but that should provide some good laughs at outlands though :) |
| 07:34.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Wobin - it needs to download FASTER dammit! |
| 07:34.57 | pastamancer | Xuerian: no idea, that would be interesting |
| 07:35.09 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm only getting about 45k down on it. |
| 07:35.30 | ckknight | GameTooltip.xml looks changed: OnTooltipSetUnit replacing event == "UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT" apparently |
| 07:35.32 | Xuerian | pastamancer: It just makes me curious why the sudden and complete change to "Real" everything |
| 07:35.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Xuerian - is it for having a real raid and a BG raid both at the same time? |
| 07:35.56 | pastamancer | Xuerian: indeed |
| 07:36.29 | Arrowmaster | interesting |
| 07:36.48 | Xuerian | ZealotOnAStick: Kindof hard to tell without having the framexml myself, and only seeing what was changed. Not gonna do it tonight either. Just food for thought :P (And thus my "Complete" might be erroneous) |
| 07:38.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Arrowmaster: is the mod I requested be written to ditch Misdirection and alert you to who used it on you still viable in beta, or does it need alteration to work right? |
| 07:38.04 | Iceroth | what changes are you talking about btw? new beta push or did US get an update to live? |
| 07:38.13 | ZealotOnAStick | beta patch today |
| 07:38.19 | Arrowmaster | no clue im not in beta |
| 07:38.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. I'll have to go find a hunter and test it then. |
| 07:39.29 | ckknight | -<Texture name="$parentBanner" file="Interface\PVPFrame\PVPBanner"> |
| 07:39.29 | ckknight | +<Texture name="$parentBanner" file="Interface\\PVPFrame\\PVP-Banner-2"> |
| 07:39.30 | ckknight | odd |
| 07:40.36 | Wobin | Elkano: You about? |
| 07:40.36 | Arrowmaster | 779 in the diff, did they make it so you can only be in 3 bg queues at once? |
| 07:42.00 | Arrowmaster | why didnt they use MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES on 779 instead of 3???? |
| 07:42.20 | Arrowmaster | that seems like a 'bug' |
| 07:42.46 | Elkano | hmm? |
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| 07:50.08 | Gngsk | is there a slash command to make a temporary mapnote with cartographer? |
| 07:50.16 | ckknight | Gngsk, /note |
| 07:50.21 | Gngsk | nice |
| 07:50.26 | Elkano | WTF? http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/12/15/interview-with-xzin-the-man-with-ten-arms/ |
| 07:50.37 | ckknight | Gngsk, not really temporary, though |
| 07:50.42 | ckknight | you can always delete it |
| 07:50.48 | Gngsk | yea, that's what I mean |
| 07:51.05 | Gngsk | can I make it show up on minimap ? |
| 07:51.28 | ckknight | does by default |
| 07:51.43 | Gngsk | ah, I meant with like a waypoint if it's not in range of minimap |
| 07:52.12 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:52.12 | ckknight | no |
| 07:52.58 | Stavmar | I am trying to use henge as a lock with no success, another lock is stating an error that indicates: core.lua:128:attempt to concantenate field 'icon' (a nil value). He cannot get the shard counter to work nor can i. |
| 07:53.02 | Stavmar | any thoughts |
| 07:53.21 | CIA-17 | 03uruloke * r21538 10ArcHUD2/ (17 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:53.21 | CIA-17 | ArcHUD2: |
| 07:53.21 | CIA-17 | * Moved certain update bits to the ModuleCore since all rings use it |
| 07:53.21 | CIA-17 | * Fixed nameplate not hiding when disabled |
| 07:53.22 | CIA-17 | * Hopefully fixed most of the ADDON_BLOCKED messages |
| 07:53.22 | CIA-17 | * Added additional events to the Blizzard targetframe so it gets restored better |
| 07:53.24 | CIA-17 | * Added option to show/hide combopoints display |
| 07:54.35 | Arrowmaster | bliz added movable minimap icons??? line 2500 |
| 07:54.57 | Arrowmaster | oh wait no |
| 07:55.02 | ckknight | Tekkub, Gratuity-2.0.Lua:45:<unnamed>:SetOwner(): Can't set owner to self |
| 07:55.18 | Tekkub | yea that cropped up just this patch |
| 07:55.37 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:55.43 | ckknight | I was sent a bug report about it |
| 07:56.56 | Tekkub | I honestly don't know what "Owner" is for |
| 07:57.05 | Tekkub | having never used a "real" tooltip for display |
| 07:57.31 | Tekkub | so I don't know what is "safe" to set owner to that won't dislodge the tip |
| 07:57.54 | haarm | Elkano, and the guy says "I have far better things to do with my time." :p |
| 07:58.09 | ckknight | Tekkub, hrm... fake frame? |
| 07:58.15 | ckknight | dummy frame, I mean |
| 07:58.35 | Tekkub | guess that could work |
| 07:58.51 | Tekkub | or the WorldFrame might be safe |
| 07:58.56 | Wobin | btw Tekk, I was trying FuzzyLogic on beta |
| 07:58.57 | Tekkub | I don't think you can hide it ever |
| 07:59.09 | Wobin | and all it would do is try and cast revive pet |
| 07:59.15 | ckknight | Tekkub, honestly, I'd say a dummy frame would be better |
| 07:59.16 | Tekkub | yes I know |
| 07:59.22 | Tekkub | the "trick" I fould doesn't work |
| 07:59.28 | Tekkub | I havn't fixed it yet |
| 07:59.38 | Wobin | kk |
| 07:59.46 | Tekkub | I intend to fix it right |
| 07:59.55 | Tekkub | make it track your pets livingness |
| 08:00.03 | Tekkub | instead of just relying on that error |
| 08:01.27 | Fudge | http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/bshaftoe00/sebspeakerwg2.jpg :o |
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| 08:04.41 | Elkano | haarm, it takes him 2min to clear SM cath :/ |
| 08:05.22 | SkorcherX | FINALLY |
| 08:05.28 | SkorcherX | got in on the beta! |
| 08:05.36 | SkorcherX | and into outland |
| 08:08.46 | SkorcherX | Fudge: thats hilarious |
| 08:09.05 | haarm | SkorcherX, what server? |
| 08:09.16 | SkorcherX | Hellfire |
| 08:09.24 | SkorcherX | PvE cause im chicken |
| 08:09.36 | SkorcherX | you? |
| 08:10.11 | haarm | europe |
| 08:10.19 | haarm | fudge, that guy sounds like me :D |
| 08:10.21 | SkorcherX | doh! |
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| 08:11.24 | Arrowmaster | ohh whats this... how long has IsInInstance() returned inInstance, instanceType |
| 08:15.10 | CIA-17 | 03weab * r21539 10Automaton/ (Automaton.toc modules/Unshapeshift.lua): Automaton: Add Shadowform to Unshapeshift; Bump to 1.2.2 |
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| 08:16.51 | haarm | haha "shout it right up his ass" |
| 08:18.01 | andremar | automaton? |
| 08:18.21 | weab | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Automaton |
| 08:18.36 | weab | automates various smallish things |
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| 08:26.49 | Barbanus | This is a ROFL link http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/bshaftoe00/sebspeakerwg2.jpg |
| 08:27.16 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21540 10Automaton/modules/Unshapeshift.lua: Automaton: Update locals koKR |
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| 08:27.40 | andremar | man, some of theese translators are quite quick |
| 08:27.43 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 08:27.53 | Arrowmaster | ckknight! ckknight! ckknight! |
| 08:27.59 | Arrowmaster | i found something =) |
| 08:28.00 | weab | <3 sayclub |
| 08:28.49 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: while inside AV..... /print IsInInstance() .... 1, "pvp" |
| 08:29.10 | Arrowmaster | time to finally fucking fix locationfu |
| 08:29.11 | ckknight | Arrowmaster, k |
| 08:29.15 | ckknight | alright |
| 08:29.18 | ckknight | good times |
| 08:29.34 | Arrowmaster | cart too |
| 08:29.52 | ckknight | k |
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| 08:31.19 | Dwellr | Xuerian: morning.. how's nwn ;-) |
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| 08:34.24 | Arrowmaster | fuck i need to go in an arena and test IsInInstance() now |
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| 08:35.05 | ZealotOnAStick | "Is Annette Bening made of leather? A local tanner has a surprising revelation!" |
| 08:43.09 | Arrowmaster | hmm IsInInstance() in arenas returns 1, "none" |
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| 08:53.47 | CIA-17 | 03elkano * r21541 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/ (. FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua FuBar_ItemDBFu.toc Libs/): |
| 08:53.47 | CIA-17 | FuBar_ItemDBFu |
| 08:53.47 | CIA-17 | - updated for WoW2.0 |
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| 09:06.26 | haarm | does anyone know a tool i can use to just un-zlib some raw data? |
| 09:07.09 | dreamss | automaton is nice |
| 09:07.49 | dreamss | if it changed stances, it would be godly |
| 09:07.54 | dreamss | but wow its nice |
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| 09:09.37 | CIA-17 | 03arrowmaster * r21542 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu: Coordinates finally update correctly in battlegrounds! |
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| 09:15.51 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r21543 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.deDE.lua sRaidFrames.toc): sRaidFrames: Fix deDE. It was a zip, imagine that |
| 09:16.17 | ZealotOnAStick | o_o |
| 09:17.35 | Gngsk | o_O |
| 09:18.04 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r21544 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 rescans units when the roster changes, so we don't need to |
| 09:18.43 | dreamss | anyone could give em a pointer for visor2? like how do i find out the frames names and the cords |
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| 09:23.19 | Fisker- | lol |
| 09:23.34 | Fisker- | Blizzard put in a "rogue academy" npc in strattath |
| 09:23.45 | axxo | lol |
| 09:24.57 | Fisker- | "The new generation of rogues will learn such staples as the gouge'n grin, combat looting, blaming someone else for breaking polymorph, and who can forget the central rule of roguery --- real rogues don't feint" |
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| 09:28.44 | kebinusan | Fisker-: thats great, got screenshots? |
| 09:28.57 | Fisker- | sec |
| 09:29.25 | Fisker- | oh lol it's randomized |
| 09:31.06 | kebinusan | he in the lower city somewhere? |
| 09:31.07 | naenee | (screenshots of what? I just entered, but I'd like to see screenshots of something that is great) |
| 09:31.24 | Fisker- | britney spears getting pounded! |
| 09:31.30 | kebinusan | DVDA |
| 09:31.32 | naenee | .. |
| 09:31.34 | Fisker- | she is in world end's tavern |
| 09:31.44 | Iceroth | in where?) |
| 09:31.54 | kebinusan | ~inflatable dildo |
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| 09:32.23 | kebinusan | ~inflatable dildos |
| 09:32.26 | purl | Oh yea, stretch that hole! |
| 09:32.27 | kebinusan | :-( |
| 09:32.30 | kebinusan | there we go |
| 09:32.39 | kebinusan | ~botsnack |
| 09:32.39 | purl | thanks, kebinusan |
| 09:34.28 | Tekkub | http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20061220 |
| 09:34.32 | Tekkub | BEDTIME! |
| 09:35.50 | Fisker- | http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8485/rogueacademykt5.jpg |
| 09:38.26 | dreamss | lawlalwlalwl |
| 09:38.32 | Iceroth | good stuff :p |
| 09:39.12 | Iceroth | if the avarage rogue would be bright enough to realize how they are being insulted, i'm sure there would be tons of wtf posts at general forums ;) |
| 09:39.38 | Fisker- | i don't care anymore |
| 09:41.06 | dreamss | dude remember "frostshock and you" came out after all those QQ posts on teh shaman forums |
| 09:41.24 | dreamss | or the flavor items in av, blizz is allways mocking ppl |
| 09:41.28 | CIA-17 | 03cncfanatics * r21545 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua FuBarPlugin.lua): |
| 09:41.28 | CIA-17 | FlexBar2: |
| 09:41.28 | CIA-17 | GenButtons is now a table which contains the button names to generate instead of a number. |
| 09:41.28 | CIA-17 | Added a :Startup() method which contains everything needed for FlexBar2 to startup both on login, reload and profile switching. |
| 09:41.28 | CIA-17 | Changing profiles is now supported without having to reload WoW |
| 09:41.29 | CIA-17 | the :SetDefaults() method no longer supports a wildcard attribute |
| 09:41.33 | CIA-17 | The Dewdrop menu can now Generate, Create, Show, Lock and Set positioning of buttons |
| 09:41.35 | cncfanatics | spam ! |
| 09:41.52 | cncfanatics | since when did CIA stop trimming messages ? |
| 09:42.11 | MoonWolf | no clue |
| 09:42.35 | cncfanatics | my commit messages are always kinda massive (this is a small one), u shld try to put it back :p |
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| 09:50.27 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r21546 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-frFR.lua: Bartender3: frFR translation update |
| 09:50.38 | Mikma | cncfanatics: cia usually announces that much log |
| 09:51.26 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, it used to truncate after the 3rd line usualy for me |
| 09:51.34 | cncfanatics | cld be cuz the first few lines used to be longer though :p |
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| 09:52.43 | Elkano | btw: is there an ace2 addon that will show you timer bars in bgs using candybar? I think I've seen such an addon on a screenshot but I wonder what it's name might be. |
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| 09:53.07 | Hjalte | Capping |
| 09:53.13 | Mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=pvp&i=996 |
| 09:53.21 | cncfanatics | bigwigs with the BG module enabled maybe ? Elkano ? I'm not sure I never go BGs :p |
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| 09:54.06 | Hjalte | Elkano: Capping does what you want, i think |
| 09:55.06 | evl | Elkano: I made one called PublicPanic, dunno if it's updated anymore |
| 09:55.19 | evl | Elkano: I prefer BattlegroundFu with detached tooltip |
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| 09:56.08 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 09:56.08 | Elkano | well, the candybars looked nice ^^ |
| 09:56.33 | Fisker- | fail |
| 09:56.49 | Fisker- | one of the undead mobs in UC are using common language |
| 09:56.55 | Fisker- | those were the time *sigh* |
| 09:57.11 | Fisker- | times* |
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| 10:00.14 | [Ammo] | Elkano: that is called PublicPanic |
| 10:00.28 | [Ammo] | Elkano: it is not and will never be a part of bigwigs |
| 10:00.38 | [Ammo] | bigwigs = pve addon not some all in one lets do everything for raids addon |
| 10:01.00 | [Ammo] | oh damn |
| 10:01.05 | [Ammo] | I shouold learn to read further than the question :) |
| 10:01.08 | [Ammo] | others already answered |
| 10:01.23 | *** join/#wowace abbat_w (i=abbat@moo.efnet.org) |
| 10:01.27 | Elkano | here's the screenshot I was seeing it on: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6286/wowscrnshot121406152039ku3.jpg |
| 10:01.46 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 10:01.53 | cncfanatics | its 11 sharp and I can't login to wow :( |
| 10:02.01 | cncfanatics | damn login server |
| 10:02.05 | Elkano | but capping sounds promissing |
| 10:02.06 | abbat_w | Heh, Elkano is priest |
| 10:02.30 | Elkano | abbat_w, you failed :P |
| 10:02.46 | Elkano | if it was my screenshot, would I ask for an addon shown on it? |
| 10:02.57 | abbat_w | Ah ;) |
| 10:03.16 | Elkano | (besides trying to do a stealth marketing campaign for my own ones ;) ) |
| 10:03.20 | Nickenyfiken | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3744745583185878960 |
| 10:03.41 | Mikma | Elkano: capping |
| 10:03.50 | Elkano | Nickenyfiken, TrainerFu misses PortalTrainers as notes |
| 10:04.52 | abbat_w | Also trainerfu produces an errors if you at Gnomeregan wan't to learn discombulator scheme and recombulator scheme ;) |
| 10:04.55 | Nickenyfiken | oh, damn how many different trainers is there :-P |
| 10:05.07 | syeren | Curse gaming is a terrible site to navigate :/ |
| 10:05.12 | Fisker- | yes |
| 10:05.13 | Fisker- | YES! |
| 10:05.21 | cncfanatics | syeren, old curse > new curse :p |
| 10:05.21 | Fisker- | let the hate flow through you |
| 10:05.31 | cncfanatics | but new curse > old curse when u learned how to use it :) |
| 10:05.55 | Fisker- | old curse always > new curse ;( |
| 10:06.19 | cncfanatics | neh |
| 10:06.40 | syeren | It's like they think people go to their website for more addons. |
| 10:06.58 | Nickenyfiken | abbat_w: ok, so there is a trainer you can learn that from in there? (had no idea) |
| 10:07.17 | cncfanatics | The Area of Effect damage for "Seed of Corruption" and "Blizzard" has been properly capped. GRRRR |
| 10:07.24 | cncfanatics | now blizzard gets the nerfbat too ffs |
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| 10:07.36 | dreamss | what hapen? |
| 10:07.40 | DrZoot | Is there some programatic way to achieve the same effect as /dump ? like AceDump(varname) |
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| 10:08.08 | abbat_w | Nickenyfiken, yeah. You learn 2 schemes at Gnomeregan from machines which give you access cards |
| 10:08.13 | Herio | ~seen fwip |
| 10:08.33 | purl | fwip <i=splinter@fwip.rh.rit.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12d 6h 5m 18s ago, saying: 'I remember thinking "Oh, I'll have to try that out" but forgot the name >_<'. |
| 10:08.34 | syeren | UI threads are getting really old, it's just fucking 100000 generic or slightly modified Photeks... |
| 10:08.35 | syeren | -_- |
| 10:08.51 | cncfanatics | photek is meh |
| 10:08.53 | cncfanatics | I dont like it |
| 10:09.04 | syeren | Neither do I. |
| 10:09.14 | Herio | wtf is a photek? |
| 10:09.17 | Herio | and why should i care? |
| 10:09.19 | DrZoot | The problem with most UI's is some strange perception that more is better |
| 10:09.19 | cncfanatics | an UI pack |
| 10:09.23 | syeren | http://syeren.opposed.net/ui_161206.jpg |
| 10:09.27 | cncfanatics | LESS is better |
| 10:09.29 | syeren | An Ace UI that doesn't use Photek! |
| 10:09.30 | cncfanatics | and not the god damn opposite |
| 10:09.33 | syeren | "OMG." |
| 10:09.34 | DrZoot | Less is the new black |
| 10:09.47 | cncfanatics | I can live with a single addon |
| 10:09.52 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2 all I need kinda |
| 10:10.14 | DrZoot | I liked Autobar but its a bit broke atm so im learning to live without it |
| 10:10.18 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r21547 10Capping/ (. AV.lua Capping.lua Capping.toc WSG.lua localization.lua): |
| 10:10.18 | CIA-17 | Capping |
| 10:10.18 | CIA-17 | - phase 1 of de localization support (Added Babble-Class) |
| 10:10.30 | Herio | wow |
| 10:10.39 | Herio | what was this guy thinking with photek |
| 10:10.46 | Herio | the minimap on the left side? |
| 10:10.47 | Gngsk | DrZoot, try AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(varname) |
| 10:10.50 | Herio | yeeeesh |
| 10:10.53 | Herio | =) |
| 10:11.43 | DrZoot | Gngsk: Thanks Ill give that a go |
| 10:11.58 | syeren | Oh my fucking god. |
| 10:11.59 | syeren | syeren says (10:10): |
| 10:12.01 | syeren | http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2893/thisuisucksballsmz6.jpg |
| 10:12.02 | Vegeta]BT[ | is there a slashcommand available for the herbsradar of WoW ? When i try to use the button in my spell & Abilitybook, there comes a message, that Ace2 has been blocked due to the fact that this action is only available to blizz ui |
| 10:12.03 | syeren | I bet you could go to any UI screenshot thread and find 100000000 screenshots just like that. |
| 10:12.04 | Vegeta]BT[ | ? |
| 10:12.05 | syeren | All use the same addon pack. |
| 10:12.07 | syeren | Reece says (10:11): |
| 10:12.09 | syeren | the bar at the bottom, what is that called |
| 10:12.11 | syeren | syeren says (10:11): |
| 10:12.13 | syeren | Eugh. |
| 10:12.15 | syeren | Skinner. |
| 10:12.19 | syeren | Everyone loves skinner :( |
| 10:12.30 | syeren | "I LIKE A BIG BLACK BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF MY SCREEN YAY." |
| 10:12.59 | cncfanatics | TOO MUCH SPACE USED |
| 10:13.11 | cncfanatics | I have a row of bars at the bottom, and thats it -.- |
| 10:13.19 | syeren | I have zero bars! |
| 10:13.38 | Neebler | http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/motivation/women.jpg |
| 10:13.41 | cncfanatics | no actionbars ? :( |
| 10:14.24 | [Ammo] | you don't really need them |
| 10:14.30 | [Ammo] | if you're good at remembering keybindings :) |
| 10:14.37 | kebinusan | Neebler: somehow I knew it was going to be sexist, but wow |
| 10:14.39 | [Ammo] | I think I barely use my bars |
| 10:14.41 | [Liquidor] | Anyone got a link to a tabard builder? |
| 10:14.43 | [Ammo] | I have them on screen |
| 10:14.46 | syeren | cnc, http://syeren.opposed.net/ui_161206.jpg = My UI. |
| 10:14.58 | syeren | I have no need for action bars, used the same keybindings for over a year :p |
| 10:14.59 | Mikma | I LOVE BIG BLACK COXK IN BOTTOM OF MY BODY |
| 10:15.06 | cncfanatics | oh hehe |
| 10:15.07 | ZealotOnAStick | I really miss Sprocket. |
| 10:15.08 | [Ammo] | syeren: that's one messy ui |
| 10:15.14 | ZealotOnAStick | I've had to put so much crap back on buttons since I lost it. |
| 10:15.15 | cncfanatics | I like actionbars for visual display of cds |
| 10:15.25 | [Ammo] | syeren: if you scale things more similar and put them more on one line it'll look a lot better |
| 10:15.26 | cncfanatics | but I mainly use my bindings too |
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| 10:15.45 | syeren | Ammo, I like having my stuff on the left, and the enemy stuff on the right ;) |
| 10:15.52 | [Ammo] | no that's not what i mean |
| 10:15.56 | Mikma | [Ammo]: hi. wassup |
| 10:16.01 | [Ammo] | I don't care what you're showing :) |
| 10:16.05 | [Ammo] | it's the basic visuals that suck |
| 10:16.16 | [Ammo] | you need to scale things the same way so bars are the same thickness etc |
| 10:16.26 | [Ammo] | and make sure stuff is on the same horizontal or vertical line |
| 10:16.31 | [Ammo] | so everything 'fits' together better |
| 10:16.33 | [Ammo] | it's a mess now |
| 10:16.48 | [Ammo] | hey mikma |
| 10:16.51 | [Ammo] | everything fine :) |
| 10:16.52 | odt | cncfanatics: how come flexbar is the only addon you would need? i find that pro's don't need any bars :) |
| 10:16.55 | syeren | They're not on the same Horizontal line in compensation for the coolDown mod. |
| 10:16.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Soloing UIs can also get away with a lot less stuff on screen than Raid UIs |
| 10:17.04 | cncfanatics | I like bars odt :) |
| 10:17.09 | syeren | If I knew how to fucking scale that mod, Problems would be solved Ammo, but I do not. |
| 10:17.12 | cncfanatics | and flexbar can also hide the ugly default UI |
| 10:17.15 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:17.20 | odt | i actually play a lot with the ui switched off, when grinding |
| 10:17.21 | syeren | I would love it if I could put it in two collumns. |
| 10:17.22 | [Ammo] | I would have put my own unitframe left of the HUD |
| 10:17.25 | syeren | But it just puts a big line ;p |
| 10:17.34 | [Ammo] | it's way off on the topright |
| 10:17.40 | Mikma | [Ammo]: good good. i don't know that do you care, but my wife was in little car-accident. my car, RIP is pretty much gone now :P |
| 10:17.40 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
| 10:17.42 | [Ammo] | and put the cooldown stuff directly below the hud or something |
| 10:17.50 | syeren | Need my debuffs there :P |
| 10:17.53 | [Ammo] | ouch mikma |
| 10:17.54 | syeren | Hate diverting my eyes ;p |
| 10:17.54 | [Ammo] | wife alright? |
| 10:18.05 | odt | is that icehud anyway on that minimalistic ui? |
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| 10:18.25 | syeren | Ammo, go mod coolDown so I can change the scale and how it is organized, and it's done :P |
| 10:18.32 | syeren | Unfortunatly I do not know how to do so :( |
| 10:18.33 | kebinusan | isnt it a bit redundtant have all the unit frames and icehud |
| 10:18.48 | Mikma | [Ammo]: http://edu.joroinen.fi/~mikma/polo/gallery2/images/IMG_0355.jpg <- BEFORE, http://mikma.reaktio.net/pusu/PICT1710.JPG <- now |
| 10:19.05 | syeren | I need the enemy unit frames for their debuffs and the big totototoot line ;) |
| 10:19.09 | odt | which do you guys prefer - ocd or cooldown? |
| 10:19.17 | Mikma | [Ammo]: she had to stay the night at hospital because she hurt her neck in the crash, but everything seems to be fine now :) |
| 10:19.32 | Vegeta]BT[ | Mikma, what did you do with thix car ? Oo |
| 10:19.34 | syeren | coolDown is an amazing mod, just needs customization options :( |
| 10:19.39 | ZealotOnAStick | personally, OmniCC. |
| 10:19.42 | kebinusan | aguf needs debuff sorting, its hard to find important thigns like raid curses amoung 40 debuffs |
| 10:19.54 | Mikma | Vegeta]BT[: a young laddie crashed at the tail at 60km/h |
| 10:20.04 | Vegeta]BT[ | ouch :( |
| 10:20.30 | odt | ZealotOnAStick: but omnicc only puts cooldowns on your bars, doesn't it? and when you have no bars, its kinda useless? |
| 10:21.12 | syeren | Anyways Ammo, absolutly everything shares the same texture on my screen, it's just a bit hard to posistion things when addons give me a fucking 3 second window to move them into posistion before the anchor/test decides to dissapear :( |
| 10:21.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I have bars. I've got enough damn timer bars on screen from other things. |
| 10:21.26 | Mikma | anyway, gotta go and return some papers so i get some christmas money. bbl :) |
| 10:21.29 | syeren | *absolutely |
| 10:22.17 | syeren | And getting pixel perfect posistion with a 2000 DPI mouse in 3 seconds isn't so easy, it actually gets me frustrated :P |
| 10:22.18 | kebinusan | are there any good chat mods for a minimalistic ui , I like to seperate some of my chat channels out to different windows so I dont miss important stuff but it takes a fair amount of realestate |
| 10:22.24 | Elkano | Mikma, good idea :) it's cristmas soon so donate to your favourite addon authors <3 |
| 10:22.47 | ZealotOnAStick | And there's enough stuff that I have to keep around for situational use that I could afford a button for, but I wouldn't want to try to remember 50 different keybinds. |
| 10:23.55 | ZealotOnAStick | I use probably . . . *counts in head* 35ish keybinds as is. Like I said, I really miss Sprocket. |
| 10:24.06 | dreamss | anyone could clue me in on how to use kc_mobility? |
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| 10:26.58 | cncfanatics | anyone on EU able to connect to his server ? |
| 10:27.16 | odt | nop |
| 10:27.19 | syeren | No, because Blizzard EU Tech Team are fucking failures at their job. |
| 10:27.25 | cncfanatics | idd heh :/ |
| 10:28.21 | Nickenyfiken | cncfanatics: i can't get through authentication |
| 10:28.31 | cncfanatics | I got thru that already |
| 10:28.38 | cncfanatics | just cant connect to my server |
| 10:28.45 | Elkano | anyone living near paris and having some spare time? |
| 10:28.53 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 10:29.04 | cncfanatics | I live at 2h from paris Elkano, if thats what u mean :p |
| 10:29.04 | renchap | Elkano: me ^^ |
| 10:29.07 | SoLoR | cncfanatics i got in but then i reloged and no luck :( |
| 10:29.28 | cncfanatics | renchap, want to join a raid to blizz HQ ? |
| 10:29.30 | Elkano | well, get over to Blizzard, kick some asses and fix that stuff ^^ |
| 10:29.36 | Toddde | invite |
| 10:29.44 | Elkano | can you port? |
| 10:29.52 | Toddde | mmz |
| 10:29.53 | renchap | no shards :/ |
| 10:30.02 | cncfanatics | <--- mage |
| 10:30.07 | Elkano | there's got to be some stone around there ;) |
| 10:30.46 | Fisker- | Blizz HQ France or US? |
| 10:30.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm, Fisker-, is Paris in france or US? :) |
| 10:31.01 | Fisker- | didn't see your portal text :P |
| 10:31.28 | Fisker- | i'm wondering |
| 10:31.49 | Fisker- | why is it that no matter what ui site i use it's impossible to find any auto turn-in mods |
| 10:31.50 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 10:32.12 | cncfanatics | la vendetta does good auto-turn in |
| 10:32.24 | Elkano | www.wowace.com/files/Automaton/ ? |
| 10:32.30 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=54015645&sid=1 <-btw |
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| 10:32.38 | Fisker- | I know a friend from another guild |
| 10:32.48 | Fisker- | their guild bank got banned for having 80k gold on it |
| 10:32.53 | Toddde | imba im shaking hands |
| 10:33.12 | DrZoot | Is there anyway to have multiple types of modules with AceModuleCore ? |
| 10:33.25 | ZealotOnAStick | AutoTurnin? |
| 10:33.52 | phyber | update accounts set disabled=1 where money > 50g; |
| 10:33.54 | Fisker- | ~seen nymbia |
| 10:34.17 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@67-40-142-199.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 36m 41s ago, saying: 'its assumed. and for times that it isnt. you wouldnt use %t, you'd use [target=target]'. |
| 10:34.17 | CIA-17 | 03annihilation * r21548 10FuBar_CheckStoneFu/CheckStoneFu.lua: |
| 10:34.17 | CIA-17 | FuBar_CheckStoneFu: |
| 10:34.17 | CIA-17 | - Fixed a typo in the search string |
| 10:34.17 | Fisker- | something like that phyber |
| 10:34.20 | phyber | "we deleted 11 million golds from teh ecomonies!" |
| 10:34.23 | dreamss | so yeah.. i cant figure out how to use kcm |
| 10:34.46 | Fisker- | some guy with over 300.000 gold(yeah wtf) on the us servers were apparently also banned |
| 10:34.53 | dreamss | anyone could give me a hand? |
| 10:35.02 | Mikk | humm maybe i should start spending then |
| 10:35.10 | Mikk | only got like 3k gold but still :> |
| 10:35.29 | cncfanatics | 3k ~= 300k |
| 10:35.36 | [Ammo] | damn login servers |
| 10:35.37 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 10:35.40 | Mikk | no but closer to 80 |
| 10:35.45 | Mikk | and what's the cutoff? |
| 10:35.48 | Fisker- | the login servers are fine *blizzard mind trick* |
| 10:35.55 | cncfanatics | I managed to login |
| 10:35.55 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 10:35.59 | cncfanatics | but the server won't let me connect |
| 10:36.11 | [Ammo] | well we have somme people in the guild with over 40k gold |
| 10:36.17 | [Ammo] | they're damn addicts |
| 10:36.21 | Fisker- | can't even go to their forums and complain since the forums seem to be down |
| 10:36.24 | ZealotOnAStick | "These are not the Wii remotes you're looking for." "Uh, yeah, you're not a jedi." "Move along." |
| 10:36.33 | Mikk | how the hell do you amass 40k gold to begin with? |
| 10:36.40 | [Ammo] | easy |
| 10:36.41 | Mikk | live eat and shit in tyr's? |
| 10:36.46 | [Ammo] | not even that |
| 10:36.49 | cncfanatics | boooooring |
| 10:36.53 | ZealotOnAStick | 300 skill in Auction House Mastery. |
| 10:36.56 | [Ammo] | just kill kill kill oh and did I mention kill? |
| 10:36.58 | Fisker- | also that |
| 10:36.59 | [Ammo] | and use the AH |
| 10:36.59 | Toddde | like raid and dont whipe |
| 10:37.04 | haarm | twilight texts 6 months ago |
| 10:37.07 | [Ammo] | yeah raiding and not wiping helps |
| 10:37.14 | Mikk | raiding != cash |
| 10:37.18 | Mikk | even if you're not wiping |
| 10:37.19 | cncfanatics | I raid too often :) |
| 10:37.19 | [Ammo] | raiding = cash |
| 10:37.21 | cncfanatics | got 48g |
| 10:37.23 | Fisker- | kicking people from the group after bosskills and looting helps too |
| 10:37.27 | cncfanatics | raiding and not wiping is cash |
| 10:37.31 | [Ammo] | a 2 hour BWL clear nets 50gold |
| 10:37.36 | [Ammo] | and epix |
| 10:37.40 | Toddde | idd |
| 10:37.41 | ZealotOnAStick | raiding in Naxx has reached the point of slightly better than breakeven for us, if you only consider repair costs. |
| 10:37.43 | syeren | Ammo, screenshot of your UI ;) |
| 10:37.51 | [Ammo] | my UI sucks :) |
| 10:37.52 | ZealotOnAStick | However, once consumables costs are factored in . . . way negative. |
| 10:37.53 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
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| 10:37.58 | haarm | ammo, problem with that is, usually you have to spend 2 hours with 39 people you think are idiots ;x |
| 10:38.08 | Mikk | idd :> |
| 10:38.11 | Mikk | well |
| 10:38.15 | Mikk | 20 odd idiots anyway |
| 10:38.20 | Toddde | this is true |
| 10:38.24 | [Ammo] | depends |
| 10:38.27 | [Ammo] | if you do a run in 2 hours |
| 10:38.31 | kebinusan | most of the time I make more money from the BWL poker table than the mob drops |
| 10:38.32 | [Ammo] | there are likely little idiots |
| 10:38.44 | Mikk | true |
| 10:38.46 | kebinusan | you can make a ton of gold if you are persistent at playing the AH |
| 10:38.50 | cncfanatics | if u do a run in 2 hours and no priests cry about you not having iceblock there won't be lots of idiots |
| 10:38.51 | Mikk | anyway. |
| 10:38.56 | Mikk | bwl = once or twice a week |
| 10:39.04 | kebinusan | hell I made 200g selling small eggs in one day |
| 10:39.06 | Mikk | i make like ~80g daily if i just killkillkill |
| 10:39.09 | Soulless | can text strings contain newlines? |
| 10:39.23 | kebinusan | never underestimate the laziness of people |
| 10:39.38 | ZealotOnAStick | I need to rethink my UI layout. Something a bit less cluttered but still functional . . . |
| 10:39.45 | waffle | hey, the popular poker mod, is it nlhe? or lhe? |
| 10:40.15 | Nargiddley` | i've got most of my layout ok |
| 10:40.18 | kebinusan | I was trying to find a good mod to handle my chat channels/windows |
| 10:40.27 | [Ammo] | syeren: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/myui.jpg |
| 10:40.27 | Nargiddley` | where to stick all the timer bars in raids gets a problem tho |
| 10:40.33 | Fisker- | wouldn't blizzard technically consider poker gambling against the rules? |
| 10:40.44 | [Ammo] | from last night doing ony prequest on my alt :p |
| 10:40.45 | Mikk | they sould |
| 10:40.46 | Mikk | would |
| 10:41.02 | waffle | [Ammo]: that's set up with a viewport, correct? |
| 10:41.14 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:41.21 | haarm | i hope it's my one! |
| 10:41.24 | [Ammo] | no |
| 10:41.24 | syeren | Your Elk is a bit out of posistion :P |
| 10:41.24 | Neebler | http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/hl2.jpg |
| 10:41.28 | haarm | :p |
| 10:41.28 | syeren | Like in the middle of nowhere ;p |
| 10:41.39 | haarm | it's a bit overkill don't you think? |
| 10:41.43 | haarm | huge black mass |
| 10:41.45 | kebinusan | eh, we hold a weekly guild 50/50 raffle and generally have poker games in bwl |
| 10:41.46 | waffle | your paladin is named "bubblehearth"? lol |
| 10:41.49 | [Ammo] | yeah he is |
| 10:41.59 | dreamss | guys could recomend any adons that can move frames otehr than kc_mobile or visor? |
| 10:42.06 | waffle | kebinusan: is the poker game nlhe? |
| 10:42.14 | dreamss | could they really aint working out |
| 10:42.15 | Toddde | nerf the trio i say |
| 10:42.26 | [Ammo] | my EBB is there because I require space above it for various buttons in a riad |
| 10:42.29 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:42.47 | [Ammo] | and it's aligned with the minimap |
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| 10:43.01 | ZealotOnAStick | http://yggdrasil.net/gallery/wow/raidooc.jpg |
| 10:43.12 | ZealotOnAStick | http://yggdrasil.net/gallery/wow/gnometheb.jpg |
| 10:43.28 | syeren | Now that's fucking messy ;p |
| 10:43.34 | waffle | i spot abominationmod |
| 10:43.47 | phreaky | ZealotOnAStick: What's that with alot of squares in it? on the right side? =) |
| 10:43.49 | dreamss | sighs |
| 10:43.54 | syeren | Your FuBar is packed Zealot ;p |
| 10:43.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Grid. |
| 10:43.59 | kebinusan | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3757/wow-texas-holdem/ |
| 10:44.15 | ZealotOnAStick | syeren - yeah. I don't want it to expand to 2 bars. |
| 10:44.18 | [Ammo] | abominationmod? |
| 10:44.20 | [Ammo] | what's taht |
| 10:44.23 | waffle | Skinner |
| 10:44.27 | [Ammo] | ah yeah |
| 10:44.40 | syeren | Zealot, why the hell do you as a DPS class have grid? |
| 10:44.41 | phreaky | What's Grid good for? =) |
| 10:44.42 | [Ammo] | I'm waiting for haste to fix his new one :p |
| 10:44.44 | syeren | It just isn't needed ;p |
| 10:44.48 | waffle | kebinusan: is the betting amount fixed each round, or do you get to choose how much you bet? |
| 10:44.50 | syeren | Only thing DPS needs is XRS :P |
| 10:45.00 | [Ammo] | I use raidframes |
| 10:45.04 | [Ammo] | as my warlock |
| 10:45.09 | [Ammo] | just because I need to know who are noobing |
| 10:45.12 | [Ammo] | and in what group |
| 10:45.19 | Codayus | Raid leaders/officers can benefit from grid on any class... |
| 10:45.20 | Nargiddley` | http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/544/nargui20ef7.jpg |
| 10:45.22 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:45.24 | kebinusan | waffle: we do a table buy in at the start of the night |
| 10:45.24 | Nargiddley` | is mine atm |
| 10:45.29 | waffle | bluegreen = new shaman color? |
| 10:45.37 | waffle | kebinusan: oh, so they're tournaments? |
| 10:45.48 | ZealotOnAStick | I use Grid as my raid frames, and I used to be Raid Officer, habits die hard. |
| 10:45.58 | dreamss | new shaman color is retarded |
| 10:46.05 | phreaky | http://img315.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lurkoriq8.jpg |
| 10:46.06 | kebinusan | just for fun and a little gold, we keep the buy in small.. .like 25g mostly |
| 10:46.07 | ZealotOnAStick | waffle: abominationmod? |
| 10:46.13 | waffle | ZealotOnAStick: skinner |
| 10:46.26 | kebinusan | yeah skinner is a bit out of control, it needs to be renamed metaskinner |
| 10:46.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. Yeah. With my all of . . . like 4 or 5 addonskins. |
| 10:46.56 | syeren | To those of you with rank 13 shoulders, I swear down you better have rank 12 gloves. |
| 10:46.59 | syeren | They're amazing for locks. |
| 10:47.00 | dreamss | any chance u guys could help me out instead of ignoring me.. plz |
| 10:47.11 | syeren | Much better than the shoulders ;p |
| 10:47.12 | Codayus | dreamss: It's possible. |
| 10:47.36 | Nargiddley` | yes i have the gloves :P |
| 10:47.49 | Codayus | dreamss: What's your problem, anyhow? |
| 10:47.57 | dreamss | with kt_mobility your supposed to move frames with alt+right mouse? |
| 10:48.05 | Codayus | No idea, I just use visor2. |
| 10:48.08 | dreamss | i been asking for an hour now,, |
| 10:48.13 | kebinusan | the 50% chance to avoid interrupt from searing pain? |
| 10:48.14 | dreamss | lol |
| 10:48.22 | Codayus | Sorry, never used kt_mobility. :-) |
| 10:48.30 | kebinusan | phreaky: I like what you've done |
| 10:48.45 | phreaky | kebinusan: thank you =) |
| 10:48.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I want more plagueheart, but the cloth shoulders haven't dropped the last 2 weeks, and we had people disconnected all over the place on Thaddius tonight, so we'll have to kill him tomorrow, and I see if I get the hideous mask. |
| 10:48.56 | kebinusan | whats the fubar plugin with all your professions on it? |
| 10:49.06 | syeren | Mask is sick, disable it. |
| 10:49.19 | syeren | Zealot, for raiding you only need 2 pieces of Plagueheart anyways ;p |
| 10:49.24 | kebinusan | I keep mine enabled because I lost a bit |
| 10:49.24 | ZealotOnAStick | never used KCM |
| 10:49.28 | Nargiddley` | i've only got plagueheart sandals, had to miss alot of raids lately |
| 10:49.29 | kebinusan | *bet |
| 10:49.32 | syeren | 5/5 Doomcaller is still best raid DPS set going for a Warlock ;p |
| 10:49.32 | Codayus | Mask = ugliest armor ever made? I think so! |
| 10:49.39 | Nargiddley` | and now the guilds wound down for the holidays |
| 10:49.42 | Gngsk | phreaky, what casting bar is that? |
| 10:49.48 | kebinusan | I told my guild if I got the zg enchant on a particular run Id always keep my helm enabled |
| 10:49.52 | DrZoot | Does anyone know a decent IRC client for windows? I liked Konversation on KDE but since im on windows atm ive reverted to mirc and its not very good |
| 10:49.54 | dreamss | patcher is great and all but some kind of readme might help |
| 10:49.55 | phreaky | Gngsk: ecastingbar |
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| 10:49.56 | kebinusan | so they all passed the enchant to me |
| 10:49.56 | dreamss | u know? |
| 10:49.59 | ZealotOnAStick | eCB |
| 10:50.08 | Groll | crap internet |
| 10:50.20 | ZealotOnAStick | DrZoot - if you find a better one, lemme know. |
| 10:50.24 | cncfanatics | is there a table copy method hidden somewhere in ace ? |
| 10:50.32 | DrZoot | ZealotOnAStick: Will do |
| 10:50.35 | Codayus | DrZoot: I recommend ssh to a *nix box, and then run irssi. :-) |
| 10:50.38 | xgravix | X-Chat 2 |
| 10:50.44 | Codayus | (Inside screen, of course.) |
| 10:50.55 | dreamss | nnscript and mirc drzoot |
| 10:50.59 | waffle | Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 10:51.10 | Codayus | irssi > * |
| 10:51.21 | cncfanatics | hmmm, i'm gonna try |
| 10:51.23 | waffle | irssi v0.8.10 - running on CYGWIN_NT-5.2-WOW64 i686 |
| 10:51.28 | waffle | BOOM :> |
| 10:51.36 | Elkano | I'm still stuck to mIRC ^^' |
| 10:51.54 | cncfanatics | is there a table copy method hidden somewhere in ace ? |
| 10:51.59 | dreamss | i googled,read the source,checked the slash commands and so far i cant work this simple addon.. i must be stupid |
| 10:52.34 | ZealotOnAStick | wow ammo . . . and I thought the bottomframe on my UI was on the largeish side. |
| 10:52.36 | Codayus | Oh, hey, v0.8.10 is out... |
| 10:52.44 | dreamss | i guess u cant leave cosmos when u want addons that work :( |
| 10:52.52 | waffle | the patch has ruined AB pugs on my battleground/faction. my winrate after pugging ~60 AB games is 14%. lol. |
| 10:53.23 | dreamss | pugs are retareded waffle... dont pug |
| 10:53.43 | DrZoot | Codayus: Lol, all my nix boxes are dead :( |
| 10:54.17 | dreamss | even when u take a grp into ab u end up covering for most tards that dont know how to d.. even when u 5 cap |
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| 10:55.30 | cncfanatics | aaaah, who doesn't love internet failures ? |
| 10:55.53 | cncfanatics | ~seen Sephyx |
| 10:56.12 | purl | i haven't seen 'sephyx', cncfanatics |
| 10:56.35 | kebinusan | is there a simple viewport mod on the svn? |
| 10:56.41 | Codayus | Apature? |
| 10:56.46 | kebinusan | thnx |
| 10:57.05 | syeren | Cnc, what are the chances of EU players being able to play WoW the day TBC is released judging from Blizzard EU's Tech Team's amazing record ;)? |
| 10:57.06 | Hjalte | I use chatzilla for irc.. but when i have to restart firefox entirely, chatzilla goes down too. Besides that, i like it. |
| 10:57.09 | Codayus | (Haven't tested, but I think it's supposed to be one, anyhow.) |
| 10:57.21 | haarm | yar |
| 10:57.23 | haarm | Aperture |
| 10:57.26 | Codayus | Oh |
| 10:57.27 | Codayus | Wait. |
| 10:57.28 | Codayus | SPELLING |
| 10:57.33 | cncfanatics | ehm, 0.0000001% |
| 10:57.44 | haarm | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.47 | cncfanatics | it'd go up to 99.999999% if they wld let ppl on this channel handle it though, syeren |
| 10:57.48 | Codayus | It helps, no? :-/ (Sorry, it's 6am here.) |
| 10:59.33 | ZealotOnAStick | The chances of WoW USA players playing WoW on TBC release day isn't so hot . . . |
| 10:59.43 | cncfanatics | at least u got 1% |
| 10:59.58 | cncfanatics | we cant even play wow after a maintenance without patch |
| 11:00.15 | Codayus | I have a dream. |
| 11:00.20 | cncfanatics | btw, does anyone know if there is a tablecopy method somewhere in ace ? |
| 11:00.22 | Codayus | My dream...is being able to play TBC the week it launches. |
| 11:00.42 | haarm | ZealotOnAStick, if that's the case, the chances are they wont tell europe it's even released until someone copies and pastes from the US forums ;) |
| 11:00.43 | Codayus | I'm not going to bet anything I can't afford to lose that it'll happen. I forsee...serious server issues. :-) |
| 11:01.38 | syeren | EU players have never ever had a smooth week after a patch :P |
| 11:01.40 | kebinusan | Codayus: I wish they'd offer TBC delivery via download and online account upgrade instead of having to buy a retail box |
| 11:01.40 | odt | hmm, you make me worry |
| 11:01.45 | syeren | This last patch was the worst ;p |
| 11:01.49 | Codayus | kebinusan: Seriously. |
| 11:01.49 | odt | i was planning to take a 2 week vacation |
| 11:02.09 | Iceroth | kebinusan, indeed |
| 11:02.11 | Fisker- | kebinusan that would obviously fail on release day though |
| 11:02.16 | kebinusan | I think its going to be pretty bad as everyone tries to squeeze through the dark portal |
| 11:02.17 | haarm | kebinusan, if they announce that, Amazon is gonna be so pissed ;) |
| 11:02.32 | odt | yeah, i'd like an "upgrade account to tbc" option on the management page aswell |
| 11:02.34 | haarm | Fisker-, nah, they offer the download from the time the CDs go gold, loads of time |
| 11:02.46 | Codayus | Although speaking of distribution WTFs, the artifical limit on collectors editions comes to mind. |
| 11:03.15 | BarDwellr | syeren: for my server.. Im expecting them to say.. 'it'll go down at 5am.. and be back at 11' then at 11.30 they'll put out a msg 'sorry these realms will be down until 2' .. then at 3pm, the western kingdoms will come up.. but the eastern kingdoms wont, they'll ignore this for 2 hours, then repeatedly restart the server while putting no reason on realm status, and leaving the status display as 'realm green'.. around 11pm both kingdoms will c |
| 11:03.15 | BarDwellr | ome up, and promptly crash under the load. Around 3am, once everyone has gone to sleep, the realm will quietly limp back into existence, and blizz eu will go and delete all the complaint threads from the forum. |
| 11:03.20 | kebinusan | There will be a patch on release day anyway, the gold cd's will just be the last beta push they can possibly get before it hits the shelves |
| 11:03.21 | Codayus | Honestly, you'd think they were selling consoles the way their going out of their way to not sell people something they want... :-p |
| 11:03.28 | Mikk | heh. all EU realms suddenly down again according to realm select. |
| 11:03.37 | Elkano | WTB my server |
| 11:03.43 | odt | wru al'akir |
| 11:03.48 | Codayus | BarDwellr: Yes, sounds right. |
| 11:03.50 | Mikk | Paying 1s more than Elkano for my server |
| 11:03.50 | Elkano | kek |
| 11:04.05 | kebinusan | It seems like they would make more money doing an online delivery since there isnt any of that retail overhead |
| 11:04.13 | Mikk | No shit |
| 11:04.17 | Codayus | BarDwellr: You missed out on the inexplicable bugs which will plague the game for the next week. |
| 11:04.37 | haarm | I'm gonna camp exactly on the dark portal, so hopefully I can slip into Outlands as one of the first people before eastern kingdoms goes down |
| 11:04.43 | Codayus | I'm guessing...all bank bag slots will be unpurchased. Just a feeling. |
| 11:04.47 | kebinusan | but yeah, Im not too thrilled about the prospect of the bulk of my realm squeezing through the dark portal on the same day |
| 11:04.50 | Elkano | A: WTB [whatever] - B: I pay twice as much as A - I would pay 100g :P - B: ups |
| 11:05.00 | Mikk | hehehe |
| 11:05.03 | BarDwellr | Codayus: and the one where they introduce a bug that accidentally taints their own core code, leading to any addon being randomly reported as non compliant.. oh wait.. they've got that |
| 11:05.21 | Codayus | Mail and AH will be down for two weeks, naturally. |
| 11:05.23 | Mikk | no shit. i still can't dismiss pets :< |
| 11:05.27 | kebinusan | 'click' |
| 11:05.38 | Codayus | The *real* question is, will they wipe the friends list again? They've done that to our server twice so far. |
| 11:05.42 | syeren | BarDwellr, sounds normal. |
| 11:05.46 | Codayus | I'm guessing no. Three times would start to be predictable. |
| 11:05.49 | syeren | Anyone from Earthern Ring here? |
| 11:05.51 | kebinusan | Mikk petdismiss and duel are on the list to be fixed at least |
| 11:05.56 | syeren | Best Realm ever. |
| 11:06.04 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r21549 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-frFR.lua: Bartender3: Fixing frFR translation... |
| 11:06.06 | haarm | I had a char on earthern ring, but I got tired of people walking everywhere |
| 11:06.09 | BarDwellr | and the old 'stuck in loot mode bug' will return.. except the new code will mean that while waiting to loot you'll now be disconnected if you dont loot within 15seconds. |
| 11:06.10 | syeren | The realm was failing for a week and Blizzard said nothign was wrong with it. |
| 11:06.22 | syeren | Even though 90% of the time it had no NPCs or was down. |
| 11:06.23 | Toddde | sliding while looting ftw |
| 11:06.25 | Toddde | bb style |
| 11:06.33 | Codayus | Oh, of course! |
| 11:06.34 | Toddde | is like yes i lag |
| 11:06.42 | Toddde | nolstalgia as i slide about for 10 mins |
| 11:06.44 | Codayus | Lots of random DCs. |
| 11:06.46 | Codayus | That's a given. |
| 11:07.12 | kebinusan | From what Ive seen on Hellfire every time they push new beta keys... its going to be a hell of a lot of fun |
| 11:07.27 | kebinusan | Im planning on hiding inside instances for the first 5 days |
| 11:07.38 | Dhraga | morning al |
| 11:07.42 | Dhraga | +l |
| 11:07.47 | syeren | It's sad thet the EU Tech Team actually get paid to do what they do now :( |
| 11:08.01 | Toddde | They have chicken. |
| 11:08.10 | haarm | syeren, drink coffee? |
| 11:08.16 | odt | well, considering it's in france... they don't get paid that much |
| 11:08.28 | kebinusan | syeren: EU gets better CM's than us though at least you guys get information |
| 11:08.33 | odt | and they can go on strike if they get shouted at by their managers |
| 11:08.47 | syeren | Still... getting paid to fail is pretty fucking awesome, even if it isn't much odt. |
| 11:09.05 | Elkano | kebinusan, you have slouken so stfu, k? :( |
| 11:09.10 | BarDwellr | heh.. I was in scholo last time the eastern kingdoms died.. the party raised a ticket.. we heard nothing until an hr later they restarted the server |
| 11:09.28 | Toddde | We have Tseric though |
| 11:09.42 | syeren | He's a moron ;p |
| 11:09.44 | Elkano | we have Vanec or how he's spelled :/ |
| 11:09.50 | Toddde | excactly! |
| 11:09.58 | syeren | But then again, I don't read any official WoW forums unless the realms go down. |
| 11:09.58 | Toddde | just pop enrage |
| 11:10.04 | syeren | EJ all the way. |
| 11:10.39 | PsiShadow | Has anyone noticed any weird behaviour from AceComm lately? It's started lagging badly sending data. |
| 11:10.49 | kebinusan | Elkano: ok yeah Slouken is good , but cmon do you know how many times I read people questioning if Shadow Embrace only affects the warlock or not because of an incorrect post tseric made and never corrected |
| 11:10.53 | yacoob | er... was it this way around? |
| 11:11.05 | Fisker- | Slouken is the only good blizzard employee! |
| 11:11.27 | Fisker- | he atleast interacts and listens to the community |
| 11:11.28 | yacoob | s/good // :) |
| 11:11.29 | Fisker- | unlike everyone else |
| 11:12.50 | Dhraga | quick question: If adding |
| 11:12.51 | Iceroth | half of the time the "response" is "devs are looking into/considering it" and the latest lameness regarding druids is that the range bug that has been there since release gets no response except "i'm sure the devs are looking into it but are really busy right now" |
| 11:12.55 | Dhraga | aaagh... oops |
| 11:14.18 | yacoob | Iceroth, Blizz simply lacks middlefolks |
| 11:14.25 | Dhraga | Quick question (seccond try): If adding PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED() to the following line like this, will that only be used in combat then ? |
| 11:14.26 | Dhraga | original = if(percent < PetMonitor_Config.AlertPercent and PetMonitor_LastAlert < time() - PetMonitor_Config.AlertInterval) then |
| 11:14.28 | Dhraga | modified = if(PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED() and percent < PetMonitor_Config.AlertPercent and PetMonitor_LastAlert < time() - PetMonitor_Config.AlertInterval) then |
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| 11:14.41 | Toddde | that fecking range bug makes me cry |
| 11:14.52 | Dhraga | And is that the correct way of adding it ? |
| 11:14.55 | Toddde | "I'm not in range" OH WAI YESH I AM |
| 11:15.02 | yacoob | people that interact between board and devs |
| 11:15.26 | Fisker- | only important thing is buffing rogues |
| 11:15.34 | Fisker- | and a bit warriors |
| 11:15.44 | Nargiddley` | Dhraga, InCombatLockdown() is the function you'd want i think |
| 11:16.05 | Iceroth | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=84108466&sid=1&pageNo=18#344 |
| 11:16.28 | syeren | WoW Europe forums are dying as always ;p |
| 11:16.32 | Dhraga | Nargiddley, ah and I just put that into the line where I now have the PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED() then i suppose ? |
| 11:16.34 | yacoob | speaking of which, did they fixed poisons across zone yet? |
| 11:16.38 | Nargiddley` | yeah |
| 11:16.43 | yacoob | they persist? |
| 11:16.53 | Nargiddley` | PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED is an event, cant use it as a function like that |
| 11:17.00 | Fisker- | nah they bugged them even more |
| 11:17.08 | Dhraga | Nargiddley, okies most kind :) |
| 11:17.10 | Fisker- | They do persist but for some reason they just disappear sometimes |
| 11:18.21 | yacoob | brilliant, that's at least some suspense for rogues. |
| 11:18.30 | yacoob | zone... tadam! poisons gone! |
| 11:18.48 | yacoob | but, it could be worse |
| 11:19.01 | yacoob | in eve even the interface is laggy and choppy ;) |
| 11:19.20 | Codayus | Mmm, the bug where applying mana oil and zoning would remove enchantments was fun, I thought. |
| 11:19.34 | Codayus | They seem to have real issues with weapon buffs and zoning. :-) |
| 11:20.43 | Fisker- | they have real issues with rogues |
| 11:21.14 | DrZoot | They have real issues |
| 11:22.07 | yacoob | Issues they have. |
| 11:22.16 | Tornhoof | and they are real |
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| 11:24.46 | odt | hmm, at least they are working diligently |
| 11:24.54 | odt | as the login screen message lets us know |
| 11:25.04 | kebinusan | Meh any development is going to have issues, and it amazes that people act like QA is going to catch half of them |
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| 11:25.16 | Tornhoof | we're the QA |
| 11:25.32 | yacoob | tirelessly! omnipotently! diligently! overwhelmingly! |
| 11:25.48 | Codayus | I don't mind...just so long as the servers remain up. I try not to think through what this implies about me. |
| 11:26.01 | Codayus | Addiction is an ugly word, no? :-) |
| 11:26.05 | phyber | kebinusan: but it's a product, and we're customers and we pay 8p/day for this. we deserve so much! |
| 11:26.12 | odt | i just qq because i don't have any work to do atm |
| 11:26.13 | kebinusan | heh |
| 11:26.41 | yacoob | phyber, you deserve nothing! You're just drone! Go, click some herbs! |
| 11:26.42 | yacoob | :) |
| 11:26.46 | kebinusan | Alot of th eproblems come down to issues of scale, it works fine when there are 200 users, but scale that up to 2000 and things start not act very nice |
| 11:26.46 | phyber | actually, I was wrong. ~29p/day. damn, getting ripped off here |
| 11:27.11 | Toddde | shobokking |
| 11:27.22 | phyber | <homer> incase you can't tell, I was being sarcastic </homer> |
| 11:27.32 | Fisker- | haha |
| 11:27.35 | Fisker- | we're not the QA |
| 11:27.46 | yacoob | phyber, to be honest, I can give you better service for the money. I'll send you some emails describing how diligently I'm working on the issue. |
| 11:27.52 | cncfanatics | OMG |
| 11:27.53 | Codayus | Uh oh. |
| 11:27.57 | Fisker- | cause if we were rogues wouldn't be fucked in the ass day in and day out by stupid design decisions and bugs |
| 11:27.57 | Codayus | I'm out of gummi worms. |
| 11:27.58 | cncfanatics | REALMS ARE GETTING UP |
| 11:28.00 | Codayus | This is bad.... |
| 11:28.09 | yacoob | Codayus, breathe, breathe... |
| 11:28.11 | kebinusan | rogues are fine |
| 11:28.15 | Fisker- | not even close |
| 11:28.16 | yacoob | l2play? |
| 11:28.19 | Codayus | :-( |
| 11:28.24 | phyber | Codayus: you should eat gummi bears instead. if you can catch them. |
| 11:28.25 | Fisker- | blizzard don't even care about feedback anyways |
| 11:28.33 | yacoob | Codayus, try chewing on something. |
| 11:28.36 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 11:28.36 | renchap | eu servers comes back |
| 11:28.38 | odt | yeah, not from average joe anyway |
| 11:28.43 | kebinusan | Fisker-: Nerf warlocks is not feedback |
| 11:28.44 | yacoob | Fisker-, as every healthy company, they care about profit |
| 11:28.48 | [Cu]Werik | Of course they do Fisker- |
| 11:28.58 | kebinusan | besides the 2.0 pushed live is alot different from rogues in TBC |
| 11:29.01 | Fisker- | "Hey EU guys, we don't give a shit about the report tool, and you know what? If you get posting rights on the us boards we MIGHT just look at your bug reports" |
| 11:29.05 | kebinusan | cloack of shadows trainable at 66, shadowstep |
| 11:29.16 | Fisker- | shadowstep is useless |
| 11:29.27 | Fisker- | cloak of shadows is nice and i still don't give a shit about pvp |
| 11:29.31 | kebinusan | such wonderful feedback |
| 11:29.32 | yacoob | but as any companny selling addictive stuff, they don't care much about people's opinion |
| 11:29.39 | Fisker- | We're main dps dealers and that role has been removed |
| 11:29.41 | Codayus | Cloak of shadows is pretty cool. |
| 11:29.51 | Fisker- | And no my feedback is not "omg nerf warlocks" |
| 11:29.59 | [Cu]Werik | They are just unprofessional. They keep making mistakes, from week to week |
| 11:30.00 | yacoob | 'omg nerf shamans'? |
| 11:30.09 | Codayus | And if you want to sit around and whine... *cough*priest holy tree*cough*. :-) |
| 11:30.10 | Fisker- | been writing some feedback on the eu beta forums but since i know they don't give a shit i don't even want to try posting there |
| 11:30.14 | kebinusan | 'Warriors pwnt me |
| 11:30.28 | xlvii | is anyone getting fuckin' HUGE memory usage after 2.0? |
| 11:30.32 | yacoob | I suggest we all switch to Tibia. |
| 11:30.35 | xlvii | mine used to always be 19 mb |
| 11:30.39 | xlvii | now it's up to fuckin' 43 |
| 11:30.46 | odt | xlvii: same |
| 11:30.47 | Elkano | yesterday, my druid has beaten a mage on damage ^^ he was so pissed since he was the one spamming his damagmeter stats ^^ |
| 11:30.47 | [Cu]Werik | thats hugh indeed |
| 11:30.50 | Toddde | 48 here |
| 11:31.01 | [Cu]Werik | 3954mb left |
| 11:31.02 | odt | probably something buggy in the new lua implementation, my guess |
| 11:31.08 | Fisker- | exactly Elkano |
| 11:31.11 | Toddde | hehe yeah Elkano i came 2nd in zg when i went feral for a bit, people cried |
| 11:31.17 | phyber | xlvii: try doing some garbage collection? since 2.0 my memory usage is lower than ever. |
| 11:31.29 | Codayus | Heh, last week, a shadowpriest came first for dps in MC. So, yeah, it was MC...nobodies really paying that much attention. Pissed some mages and rogues off anyhow though. :-) |
| 11:31.31 | phyber | well, lower than it ever has been with all my mods loaded. |
| 11:31.34 | Fisker- | Blizzard needs to get a grasp at hybrids and they need to get a grasp on dps vs. utility |
| 11:31.40 | Groll | my mem usage is higher than ever |
| 11:31.54 | Fisker- | Our only utility is at best disarm trap or pick lock. |
| 11:31.57 | Elkano | only think druids suffer from: 3 sets in bags |
| 11:32.05 | Toddde | mmm |
| 11:32.08 | Fisker- | Yet our dps has to be below other classes who have far greater utility |
| 11:32.11 | Elkano | (well, 2 + 1 on body) |
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| 11:32.12 | Toddde | only ever have like 3 spots in my bag if that |
| 11:32.28 | Codayus | The supression room in BWL always makes me laugh. Such an obvious attempt to make rogues not seem like they have no utility beyond DPS. :-) |
| 11:32.46 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 11:32.56 | BarDwellr | i like the aoe-madness room at the end of brd =) |
| 11:33.03 | DrZoot | is there a call in AceModuleCore that I can use to find out the name of the module? like self:MyName() -> 'AceModName' |
| 11:33.10 | [Cu]Werik | You can pass that room without rogues;) |
| 11:33.26 | Fisker- | probably |
| 11:33.33 | Fisker- | might just be slow though :P |
| 11:33.36 | [Cu]Werik | yea;) |
| 11:33.44 | Codayus | I view that room as the "Look, Holy Nova isn't completely uesless!" room. (And yes, I know the room design predates Holy Nova by, like, forever. |
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| 11:34.15 | Codayus | It's still the only good use of Holy Nova I've found, apart from AoEing the bug packs in DM North... :-) |
| 11:34.32 | cncfanatics | is there a table copy method somewhere in ace ? |
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| 11:34.42 | Mikk | Welpz.. at least one good thing came out of the server downtime.... I actually got around to shaving. |
| 11:34.43 | BarDwellr | holy nova is handy in Scholo getting to jandice |
| 11:34.57 | BarDwellr | 2 priests holy nova the skellies while the dr00d heals them for a change |
| 11:34.58 | Mikk | On a related note, Gilette Sensor Excel doesn't work on ~1cm stubble. |
| 11:35.07 | Mikk | If that can be called stubble. |
| 11:35.13 | Codayus | BarDwellr: Hrm, never really tried it. Then again, I'm usually the only healer there. |
| 11:35.22 | phyber | cncfanatics: check TopScoreFu, I have a copyTable function in there. |
| 11:35.34 | DrZoot | I remember my guild leader screaming at healers for using Holy Nova to heal the first part Vael, for two reasons 1. its mana inefficient (yes hes an idiot) 2. "you morons are pulling aggro with that nova crap" (maybe idiot isnt a strong enough word |
| 11:35.40 | cncfanatics | tnx phyber, shld get implemented into acelibrary :p |
| 11:35.47 | Codayus | DrZoot: That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. |
| 11:35.53 | Groll | DrZoot lol |
| 11:35.57 | Codayus | Well, the saddest thing I've heard TODAY, anyhow. |
| 11:36.02 | cncfanatics | DrZoot, I would have left my guild |
| 11:36.07 | cncfanatics | along with the rest of the guild probably |
| 11:36.11 | odt | lol, gl |
| 11:36.17 | Toddde | dear god |
| 11:36.18 | phyber | cncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/3798 |
| 11:36.21 | Toddde | he was completely wrong |
| 11:36.27 | Mikk | No shit? :> |
| 11:36.38 | Codayus | I use PoH on Vael anyhow though. |
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| 11:36.45 | cncfanatics | phyber, does that work for tables in the table you're copying too ? |
| 11:36.48 | waffle | mana inefficient and too much aggro? lol |
| 11:36.50 | cncfanatics | or will it use the reference for those? |
| 11:36.52 | DrZoot | It gets worse, he used to tell us (after the patch that prevented this, about 2 months after) that if you stand far enough away from a hunter when he pulls a boss you wont go into combat |
| 11:36.58 | Fisker- | well DrZoot there was the rumor that holy nova didn't cause threat on the healer but instead on the targets it hit |
| 11:37.00 | Mikk | It's actually possible to outaggro MT#1 with PoH on Vael though. One of our priests tried :> |
| 11:37.01 | Codayus | Since I'm usually in a tank group, and holy nova lacks the range. :-/ |
| 11:37.18 | Codayus | Mikk: Ooooh. |
| 11:37.23 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 11:37.27 | phyber | DrZoot: why are you still in that guild? :/ |
| 11:37.30 | Codayus | Come to think of it, I might have seen a wipe caused by that. |
| 11:37.40 | Mikk | Well he was omfguberhealing of course |
| 11:37.43 | Mikk | Did it on purpose |
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| 11:37.50 | Mikk | But.. point is.. it IS possible =) |
| 11:37.52 | Codayus | Priest drew aggro and wiped the raid. He claimed he lacked salvation. <shrug> |
| 11:37.56 | odt | last vael we wiped cause of hunters |
| 11:37.57 | [Cu]Werik | uber healing? |
| 11:38.02 | Mikk | overhealing even |
| 11:38.05 | Mikk | wtb more coffee |
| 11:38.07 | [Cu]Werik | fire away a lay on hands in the first 5 seconds |
| 11:38.07 | DrZoot | phyber: im just waiting to get out, there arent alot of choices for good horde guilds on my server |
| 11:38.10 | [Cu]Werik | and its a wipe |
| 11:38.15 | odt | without mana problems hunters do a shitload of dmg |
| 11:38.17 | phyber | ah |
| 11:38.43 | Mikk | pff.. all classes suck at vael damage except for rogues. end of story. |
| 11:38.44 | kebinusan | I think every class bitching about every other class sounds pretty balanced to me |
| 11:38.47 | cncfanatics | phyber: http://ace.pastey.net/3799 |
| 11:38.50 | Mikk | or possibly soulstoned warriors :> |
| 11:38.54 | cncfanatics | that wld do better :) |
| 11:38.57 | Codayus | Hmm, haven't seen hunters wipe raid. Saw a rogue do it. "Why the hell didn't you vanish?" "Uh...I was just about to...honest..." |
| 11:38.57 | Worf | some TinyTip dev around? i have some requests... actually i could implement them maybe myself, but i'd like to hear other peoples opinion... |
| 11:38.58 | yacoob | kebinusan, not really. |
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| 11:39.05 | Fisker- | lol |
| 11:39.15 | Fisker- | one of our shamans fell asleep during a bossfight |
| 11:39.19 | DrZoot | lol, ive seen hunters wipe plenty of raids |
| 11:39.22 | Toddde | same actually |
| 11:39.26 | Codayus | I meant, on Vael. |
| 11:39.26 | Toddde | flamegor |
| 11:39.29 | phyber | cncfanatics: maybe, but my tables don't have tables in them ;) |
| 11:39.31 | kebinusan | yacoob: There are alot of extremely uneducated posts crying about other classes |
| 11:39.35 | Toddde | just dissapeared |
| 11:39.39 | Toddde | was bizarre |
| 11:39.42 | syeren | Realms are coming up on EU. |
| 11:39.43 | waffle | How do I nuke my fubar config and startover? |
| 11:39.44 | syeren | About time ;p |
| 11:39.45 | kebinusan | Every nerf warlock post Ive seen reads like we have 143 talent points |
| 11:39.48 | odt | Codayus: have you done vael after the patch? |
| 11:39.54 | Codayus | odt: Yeah? |
| 11:39.58 | Mikk | syeren: Yeah, but stuck on "retreiving character list". joy. |
| 11:40.06 | DrZoot | kebinusan: You didnt get those extra points? :P |
| 11:40.11 | Mikk | hehe |
| 11:40.12 | Codayus | Once...first week we couldn't get past FRICKING Razorgore. |
| 11:40.22 | Mikk | We all have UA and FG.. and conflag. |
| 11:40.25 | odt | well, hunters can wipe the raid easily now, especially if you have 7 of them there |
| 11:40.28 | Toddde | we wiped on him once :< |
| 11:40.29 | Mikk | And that omfguber aoe thingy at the top of destru ofc |
| 11:40.36 | renchap | 41x3 tallent points are enouth |
| 11:40.42 | yacoob | kebinusan, but it's due to the popularity of the game |
| 11:40.43 | renchap | imba aoe, imba pet, imba curse |
| 11:40.43 | Codayus | Toddde: Ah, hmm. I guess I could see that. |
| 11:40.44 | Toddde | cos of the raidassist and hunters right clkcing |
| 11:40.45 | renchap | nerf us ! |
| 11:40.50 | cncfanatics | pbyber, mine do, a lot ! |
| 11:40.52 | yacoob | lots of people playing -> lots of dorks and whiners playing |
| 11:41.05 | Mikk | on a related note, affli really sucks arse for aoe |
| 11:41.05 | Worf | i missed the part of the discussion - why do hunters wipe raids now? |
| 11:41.18 | kebinusan | I blame pets |
| 11:41.21 | Worf | i mean - every class can wipe raids... :) |
| 11:41.24 | odt | Worf: was talking about vael though |
| 11:41.24 | yacoob | kebinusan, and I saw pretty constructive and detailed descriptions, suggestions and stuff like that, being posted by people |
| 11:41.28 | yacoob | kebinusan, with NO |
| 11:41.29 | Mikk | but hunters should never |
| 11:41.33 | Mikk | but they do |
| 11:41.33 | Toddde | well ours forgot about t he right click autoshoot thingy and prematurely pulled |
| 11:41.33 | yacoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.35 | Codayus | Worf: Properly specced hunter DPS is very high if you have infinite mana. So, on Vael.... |
| 11:41.36 | yacoob | FROM BLIZZ |
| 11:41.37 | odt | just that arcane/aimed/silence all have different cd's now |
| 11:41.42 | Toddde | the packs after vael |
| 11:41.44 | odt | multi aswell |
| 11:41.45 | yacoob | Whatsoever, even 'No, we won't do that, thanks for your feedback' |
| 11:41.59 | Mikk | response to what yacoob? |
| 11:42.39 | Worf | i've not been at vael since the patch, but imho a hunter who draws aggro is a idiot... they are the only class with a full aggro reset skill |
| 11:42.40 | kebinusan | yacoob: I dunno Alot of people seem to be hung up on the pvp aspect of the game and compare characters within a pvp setting |
| 11:42.53 | waffle | Kirkburn: quick question about CF2. When I change the font using the fubar plugin, I see the new font everywhere except for two places. Inside the chat window, and over peoples' heads. Why is this? Is this because I replaced the font files in the Wow\Fonts directory? |
| 11:42.57 | kebinusan | which is only a part of the overall game dynamic |
| 11:43.38 | Mikk | kebinusan: yeah but pvp is the balancer |
| 11:43.42 | SoLoR | waffle because some of font changes needs reloadui |
| 11:43.45 | kebinusan | And very often things are compared in a 1v1 situation instead of looking at larger group dynamics |
| 11:43.59 | greylock | i wonder, do other ppl have the same issues with agUF? Concnerning getting quite a few "addon blocked" messages, for example when trying to trade someone? |
| 11:44.10 | Mikk | if some class is unbeatable in 1vs1 (and i mean by other classes correctly specced for dealing with it), it will be nerfed. |
| 11:44.15 | waffle | SoLoR: this is after a /console reloadui |
| 11:44.23 | cncfanatics | Mikk, warlocks ? |
| 11:44.28 | abbat_w | =) |
| 11:44.30 | Mikk | haha |
| 11:44.32 | abbat_w | lol |
| 11:44.41 | Codayus | greylock: Not I |
| 11:44.45 | SoLoR | waffle ohh dunno then :( im using default so never really tryed ;> |
| 11:44.46 | abbat_w | not locks |
| 11:44.55 | Fisker- | kebinusan well as Blizzard says it's not based on 1v1, but it's still balanced against it |
| 11:44.55 | abbat_w | but mage vs warr, look at this ;) |
| 11:44.57 | Mikk | yeah i do see the danger of a nerfbat getting swung towards locks now |
| 11:44.57 | Fisker- | or something like that |
| 11:44.59 | SoLoR | waffle try compleat relog or something |
| 11:45.04 | Kirkburn | waffle, that's odd ... I don't recall that problem when I tried it |
| 11:45.14 | Fisker- | cause they fail to see when they contradict themselves |
| 11:45.14 | greylock | Codayus: ok, thanks for the info. You using newest version? |
| 11:45.15 | kebinusan | Fisker-: Dueling is not PVP |
| 11:45.20 | abbat_w | warlock not imba |
| 11:45.26 | Codayus | Usually. I haven't played today... |
| 11:45.29 | abbat_w | in any spec |
| 11:45.32 | Fisker- | No, but you're not dueling in 1vs1 |
| 11:45.37 | waffle | Kirkburn: hrmm.. any ideas how I can further diagnose the problem? |
| 11:45.39 | greylock | kk, cheers |
| 11:45.39 | Codayus | But yesterday I was using the then-latest revision...no issues. |
| 11:45.56 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, lock vs most classes is MUCH worse then mage vs warrior |
| 11:45.59 | abbat_w | And doesn't matter which class beat some other class 1 vs 1 |
| 11:46.04 | greylock | hm ok, had the issue even a few days ago |
| 11:46.06 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, ur a lock ? :) |
| 11:46.14 | Mikk | there's always going to be cases of Class A > Class B |
| 11:46.19 | abbat_w | cncfanatics, i play by mage and usually have no problems with locks |
| 11:46.21 | Kirkburn | waffle, this is from a clean install of CF2? No CF2_Design folder? I'm just about to go out, so I can take a look later |
| 11:46.21 | Mikk | But if it's Class > Class BCDEFGH .... |
| 11:46.41 | cncfanatics | I'm a mage too abbat_w :p |
| 11:46.41 | kebinusan | And here is the other aspect, all things are not equal |
| 11:46.42 | cncfanatics | and to beat most good locks I need to burn lots of cd's |
| 11:46.45 | abbat_w | Yep |
| 11:46.47 | cncfanatics | while they usualy only burn a single 3 min one (deathcoi) |
| 11:46.48 | waffle | Kirkburn: yeah. ok. |
| 11:46.54 | abbat_w | Lock need to burn they cd too |
| 11:47.00 | cncfanatics | what cd except dc ? |
| 11:47.03 | kebinusan | people go up against my lock in 7/9 plagueheart and pretty much all naxx gear then complain when while they're wearing lawbringer |
| 11:47.13 | Makk | If I want to update something everytime my pet¨s mana changes |
| 11:47.16 | cncfanatics | thats nubs kebinusan :p |
| 11:47.18 | Makk | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.20 | Makk | ? |
| 11:47.28 | Fisker- | kebinusan my responses to this should only be kept in context with blizzards contradictions and so on |
| 11:47.36 | Fisker- | I don't care about PvP |
| 11:47.40 | abbat_w | Mage have some long cd (depends on spec). It's AP, PoM, Ice block, Coldsnap |
| 11:47.41 | Fisker- | but here's some facts |
| 11:47.53 | kebinusan | against an equally geared player and equally skilled player its still an even playing field in pvp |
| 11:47.56 | abbat_w | Lock as class designed w/o spells with same cd |
| 11:48.11 | Fisker- | Rogues are designed to be the best DPS dealer, as they have no utility, this is not true anymore. |
| 11:48.18 | Fisker- | Warriors are not the best tanks anymore |
| 11:48.30 | Fisker- | This needs to be fixed |
| 11:48.38 | Arrowmaster | i still want to know where that bullshit comes from |
| 11:48.40 | Kinkx | Who are the best tanks? |
| 11:48.42 | kebinusan | where do people get this idea that rogues are designed to be the best single target dps |
| 11:48.50 | abbat_w | Fisker-, depend on side. If you have wf totem - yep. If you play by alliance, try to beat mages ;) |
| 11:48.51 | Mikk | because they have no other dps? =P |
| 11:49.03 | Mikk | mages? high raid dps? |
| 11:49.04 | Mikk | hahahaha |
| 11:49.07 | Fisker- | kebinusan blizzard of course |
| 11:49.15 | Makk | thanks >_> |
| 11:49.17 | abbat_w | Yep, Mikk |
| 11:49.19 | abbat_w | Mages |
| 11:49.38 | Fisker- | abbat_w mages can still beat us in damage even if we have wf totems |
| 11:49.42 | Mikk | funny that. why do i see rogues, warlocks, hunters above mages all the time? :> |
| 11:49.45 | Arrowmaster | i want to know why people keep saying warriors are not the best tanks anymore |
| 11:49.50 | Fisker- | the problem here is that mages do not have invisbillity yet |
| 11:49.55 | Fisker- | So aggro is a major concern |
| 11:49.59 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:50.05 | kebinusan | Arrowmaster: because warriors lack a good multitarget tanking ability |
| 11:50.09 | nuOHEP | Mikk, your mages suck :p |
| 11:50.11 | abbat_w | agree |
| 11:50.18 | Mikk | possibly :> |
| 11:50.25 | abbat_w | But anyway, rogue is best dps class ;) |
| 11:50.31 | abbat_w | Best melee dps class |
| 11:50.31 | Arrowmaster | how is multitarget tanking ability needed for raid bosses |
| 11:50.38 | Mikk | it isn't |
| 11:50.49 | [Cu]Werik | the game is not all about raid bosses though;) |
| 11:50.50 | kebinusan | its needed for other things like 5 mans and trash |
| 11:50.50 | Mikk | but then again raiding isn't 100% of wow |
| 11:51.02 | Mikk | and yeah i bloody love my druid for tanking 5mans |
| 11:51.04 | Worf | do tell :) |
| 11:51.06 | Mikk | swipe swipe swipe swipe |
| 11:51.06 | Fisker- | a druid should be able to outdps a rogue |
| 11:51.27 | odt | Fisker-: why? |
| 11:51.33 | abbat_w | why druid should? |
| 11:51.35 | odt | because a rogue can act as a healer? |
| 11:51.43 | kebinusan | a feral druid is not a good healer |
| 11:51.50 | Mikk | but he CAN heal. and go bear. |
| 11:51.58 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:51.58 | odt | with healing gear, any healers is an ok healer |
| 11:52.04 | kebinusan | sure at a cost of like 700 mana, form his 3k mana pool |
| 11:52.15 | abbat_w | yep |
| 11:52.31 | Mikk | fwiw, i play a healerdin and a feral druid. and saying that feral druids can heal is a bloody overstatement :> |
| 11:52.39 | cncfanatics | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=98169921&sid=1 this guy wins the retard of the millenium award ! |
| 11:52.43 | Mikk | for any sane definition of "heal" anyway |
| 11:52.54 | yacoob | *rawr* |
| 11:53.01 | [Cu]Werik | Paladins are still the best class in WoW. |
| 11:53.03 | cncfanatics | Mikk, in that definition a lock can heal too :p |
| 11:53.03 | kebinusan | hell as a warlock I have plenty of ways to 'heal myself', they all suck |
| 11:53.04 | yacoob | OMG bear! |
| 11:53.05 | abbat_w | feral druid can heal but restor druid can heal better ;) |
| 11:53.10 | Arrowmaster | and most feral druids will probably have the the talent for reduced HT casting time now since it also has natural weapons rolled into it |
| 11:53.13 | odt | Mikk: hmm, i'm leveling a feral druid aatm, and haven't had a problem healing 5mans up til brd |
| 11:53.18 | kebinusan | except for healthstones, and fel armor |
| 11:53.22 | odt | but ofc i also have a blue set of healing gear |
| 11:53.32 | Mikk | odt: yeah, true. but shit starts happening at the end of brd and past that |
| 11:53.44 | Soulless | how do you set a multiline string with " in it? |
| 11:53.45 | syeren | Paladins are the best healers in WoW, fucking stupid shit -_- |
| 11:53.54 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:53.55 | [Cu]Werik | THey have good dps in the expansion |
| 11:54.01 | [Cu]Werik | pretty good |
| 11:54.01 | Mikk | not true. paladins are the best RAID healers in wow. |
| 11:54.05 | Mikk | they aren't as much fun in 5mans at all. |
| 11:54.09 | [Cu]Werik | yea |
| 11:54.12 | syeren | They not only scale the best with healing gear, their MPH is the best if the target has the BOL on it . |
| 11:54.21 | syeren | :( |
| 11:54.21 | Makk | http://ace.pastey.net/3801 |
| 11:54.21 | Makk | right way to do it? |
| 11:54.21 | Soulless | anybody know how i would set { type = "FontString", layer = "OVERLAY", Font = { NRF_FONT.."framd.ttf", 15, "NONE" }, JustifyH = "LEFT", ShadowColor = { 0, 0, 0, 0.75 }, ShadowOffset = { 1, -1 }, Anchor = { "TOPRIGHT", "$parent", "TOPLEFT", 2, -3 }, |
| 11:54.25 | Soulless | to one string? |
| 11:54.35 | Fisker- | btw they have of course edited their sites to reflect new nerfs and so on |
| 11:54.38 | yacoob | see, that's another problem |
| 11:54.42 | DrZoot | Soulless: escape the " with \ ex. " bla bla bla \" bla bla bla" |
| 11:54.44 | Fisker- | so now they actually list rogues as the "primary melee dps" |
| 11:54.49 | [Cu]Werik | you just better go dps on 5mans, it worth more than fooling around with healing:) |
| 11:54.50 | yacoob | noone at blizz actually runs the changes through any simulation ;) |
| 11:54.53 | Fisker- | but i don't care |
| 11:54.54 | yacoob | (at least it looks like it) |
| 11:55.05 | Kaelten | hey guys good buf display mod? |
| 11:55.05 | Fisker- | Rogues are designed to be the best dps class, if they don't want that, we want utility back |
| 11:55.09 | Soulless | aight |
| 11:55.14 | kebinusan | you have plenty of utility |
| 11:55.19 | yacoob | like, last 'too much honor' problem ;> |
| 11:55.22 | Fisker- | nothing |
| 11:55.36 | Fisker- | and i don't want to go through the whole supression room thing |
| 11:55.38 | [Cu]Werik | you can still do things noone else can with a) stealth, b) vanish |
| 11:55.43 | Makk | =/ |
| 11:55.45 | Kaelten | in the venue of CT_BuffMod or whatever its called, but was going to try to get a ace version |
| 11:55.46 | kebinusan | Sap is utility, stuns are utility, poisons are utility, in a pinch evasion tanking is utility |
| 11:55.54 | Fisker- | mages can vanish, and feign death is better than vanish |
| 11:55.58 | Makk | kebinusan: ElkBuffBar? |
| 11:56.00 | Fisker- | sap is worse than polymorph |
| 11:56.02 | Makk | * Kaelten |
| 11:56.04 | abbat_w | Kaelten, try ElkBuffVarr |
| 11:56.09 | abbat_w | Bar even |
| 11:56.11 | Fisker- | stuns cannot be used in almost any boss fights, and paladins are better anyways |
| 11:56.28 | [Cu]Werik | paladins cant stun every 5 seconds;) |
| 11:56.35 | Fisker- | poisons are extra damage for ourselves and in rare fight usable with the "utility poisons" |
| 11:56.37 | Fisker- | neither can we |
| 11:56.38 | Kaelten | elkbuffbar or elkbuffbars? |
| 11:56.41 | Makk | elkbuffbar |
| 11:56.54 | phyber | Bars is the incomplete Ace2 version, i think. |
| 11:57.08 | Kaelten | so is Bar ace1 version? |
| 11:57.08 | phyber | maybe you want to use that and help complete it ;) |
| 11:57.14 | Fisker- | Our stun have a 20 second cooldown |
| 11:57.17 | phyber | Bar is just an addon, no ace. |
| 11:57.21 | Kaelten | ah |
| 11:57.23 | [Cu]Werik | but you have 2 stuns |
| 11:57.24 | Fisker- | and it's melee as well |
| 11:57.27 | [Cu]Werik | and a gouge |
| 11:57.30 | Fisker- | cheap shot can only be used as an opener |
| 11:57.33 | Fisker- | gouge is not a stun |
| 11:57.43 | Fisker- | hammer of justice cannot be dodged, parried, whatever |
| 11:57.43 | [Cu]Werik | i didnt say its a stun:) |
| 11:57.52 | [Cu]Werik | it can be resisted |
| 11:58.02 | Fisker- | yes, but so can ours |
| 11:58.23 | [Cu]Werik | but it has a minute cooldown without talents, while you can dish out an opener, and 2 kidney shots |
| 11:58.24 | odt | well, still things to do besides dps |
| 11:58.25 | [Cu]Werik | and gouges |
| 11:58.27 | odt | occasionally |
| 11:58.38 | Fisker- | If we're up against an orc with 30% stun resistance, 30% dodge, 30% parry our chance to miss our kidney shot is 90% |
| 11:58.47 | Fisker- | if a paladin does hammer of justice his chance is 30% |
| 11:59.00 | Fisker- | these values are of course only examples |
| 11:59.13 | kebinusan | umm, so thats one example when its not as useful |
| 11:59.18 | krka | wtf it's additive? |
| 11:59.19 | krka | that's stupid |
| 11:59.28 | Fisker- | i dunno |
| 11:59.29 | [Cu]Werik | I doubt its additive actually:) |
| 11:59.30 | kebinusan | you cant dodge when you're stunned |
| 11:59.31 | krka | should be 1-(1-0.3)^3 |
| 11:59.40 | krka | or something |
| 11:59.45 | yacoob | hush |
| 11:59.49 | Mikk | idd |
| 11:59.51 | Fisker- | the main point is to illustrate that a paladins stun is still more likely to hit than a rogues |
| 11:59.54 | yacoob | Fisker feels like whining, let him. :) |
| 12:00.00 | Toddde | ROAR AT BLIZZ |
| 12:00.00 | [Cu]Werik | :)) |
| 12:00.09 | Fisker- | as i said the values were only examples |
| 12:00.13 | yacoob | OMG BLIZZ! |
| 12:00.17 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 12:00.18 | yacoob | *rawr* |
| 12:00.21 | Mikk | I SEE A LOADING SCREEN! |
| 12:00.25 | abbat_w | Paladins do stunlock... ;) |
| 12:00.27 | Mikk | I've seen it for 3 minutes but... |
| 12:00.32 | Fisker- | our server isn't up yet :( |
| 12:00.36 | Toddde | same |
| 12:00.45 | yacoob | LOLADIN SCREEN? |
| 12:00.50 | [Cu]Werik | ok, Fisker-, lets say you are right, our stun is lets say 3 times more likely to hit, but still we can do it only once a minute:) |
| 12:00.51 | Toddde | what the heck are they doooing |
| 12:01.00 | Mikk | Hmm yeah there's actually a loladin on it |
| 12:01.01 | Mikk | A belf loladin |
| 12:01.09 | abbat_w | I read thread on wow forums. Someone say what they can't be do something while rogue stun him. They just die in stunlock and cry at forums ;) |
| 12:01.09 | Fisker- | Yeah, but you can talent it down to 30 |
| 12:01.10 | yacoob | Mikk, aha! Conspiracy! |
| 12:01.11 | Fisker- | i believe |
| 12:01.11 | Mikk | Then again I don't mind the easter kingdoms loading screen |
| 12:01.13 | Fisker- | 30 seconds |
| 12:01.15 | [Cu]Werik | 30? |
| 12:01.16 | kebinusan | And you dont think casters face problems with damage reduction on our spells? We have all the same problems that rogues do w/o the mitigation |
| 12:01.21 | abbat_w | I never see what someone say same for paladins stuns ;) |
| 12:01.21 | [Cu]Werik | hardly:) |
| 12:01.45 | [Cu]Werik | More like 45 |
| 12:01.58 | kebinusan | There are plenty of talents and changes in TBC that increase a rogues survival rate and dps |
| 12:02.20 | Fisker- | survival yes, dps no. |
| 12:02.21 | [Cu]Werik | It's a never ending whine circle;) |
| 12:02.22 | [Ammo] | just not against felguard (till it gets nerfed) |
| 12:02.28 | Mikk | Now, here's what I want to know... Why does the UD chick in the loading screen have nicer boobs than the nice-looking human female that's wearing a flimsy dress? |
| 12:02.45 | [Ammo] | Mikk: silicones! |
| 12:02.47 | [Ammo] | it's all fake |
| 12:02.49 | Mikk | ah |
| 12:02.51 | yacoob | Mikk, because she's filthy and rotten, she just needs to be punished ;) |
| 12:02.52 | [Ammo] | they're actually rotten of |
| 12:02.53 | kebinusan | The felguard has been nerfed his dps is about the same as the succubus now (well before cleave) and his armor was reduced quite a bit as well |
| 12:02.53 | [Cu]Werik | Mikk, thats all they have left;P |
| 12:03.10 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: I know, but it'll get nerfed further methink |
| 12:03.11 | Fisker- | Any good rogue just recieved a 30% dps nerf last patch |
| 12:03.21 | Fisker- | and i see no talents to even remotely make up for that chanc |
| 12:03.22 | Kinkx | Every class has some weaknesses, you're not suppose to be able to have it all.. this is a multiplayer game, you're suppose to play with other people and complment each other |
| 12:03.25 | kebinusan | If you |
| 12:03.26 | Fisker- | 30% white dps nerf* |
| 12:03.35 | kebinusan | Fisker-: if you're talking about the weapon skill nerf it wasnt just rogues |
| 12:03.42 | yacoob | Kinkx, lies! |
| 12:03.48 | Kinkx | :[ |
| 12:03.49 | yacoob | :) |
| 12:04.00 | Fisker- | i know, but neither warriors, druids, shamans or paladins are main dps |
| 12:04.07 | [Ammo] | warriors were top dps for us |
| 12:04.10 | Mikk | Bah, gifv Bloodhoof. Or I'm going to have to go looking for pr0n on teh intarweb or sometinhg... |
| 12:04.18 | [Ammo] | on a lot of naxx fights |
| 12:04.19 | Fisker- | And our only pve buff in 1.12 (or whatever the rogue patch was) was the weapon skill buff |
| 12:04.23 | kebinusan | Our fury warriors top our dps most of the time |
| 12:04.28 | [Ammo] | but not anymore |
| 12:04.33 | [Ammo] | postpatch warriors are a joke |
| 12:04.40 | syeren | They're best in PVP. |
| 12:04.41 | [Ammo] | spec protection, tank and never look back is the motto |
| 12:04.43 | syeren | "NOT ENOUGH RAGE." |
| 12:04.45 | syeren | NOT ENOUGH RAGE |
| 12:04.47 | syeren | YAY. |
| 12:05.00 | kebinusan | Well it was silly that edgemaster handguards were one of the best fury gloves in the game |
| 12:05.01 | Mikk | Reroll beartank and get free rage on crits :> |
| 12:05.16 | [Cu]Werik | thats true kebinusan:) |
| 12:06.02 | yacoob | furry warriors |
| 12:06.17 | usz | NEED MORE RAGE, who called me? ^^ |
| 12:06.37 | Dhraga | Anyone knwo if the SafeDistance plugin to bigwigs works ? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5063-SafeDistance.html |
| 12:07.01 | kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54940459 |
| 12:07.30 | usz | anyway about warriors, Arms tree is better than ever for PvP now and Fury was imba anyway, ofc I loved topping meters, yet it was too good to last ^^ |
| 12:07.52 | kebinusan | well before as fury you couldnt really dump rage as fast as you were generating it |
| 12:07.59 | usz | yea |
| 12:08.08 | usz | fury was limited by global cooldown only with top gear |
| 12:08.13 | [Cu]Werik | yep, fury warriors had crazy dmg output |
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| 12:08.19 | cncfanatics | yeeeey, my server is up |
| 12:08.28 | Mikk | have you actually logged in? |
| 12:08.33 | usz | wtb my shithole server up |
| 12:08.35 | Mikk | i've seen char select screens, loading screens ... but no wow |
| 12:08.37 | cncfanatics | I'm in the game now |
| 12:08.40 | cncfanatics | !!! |
| 12:08.41 | Mikk | O.O |
| 12:08.42 | Toddde | -_- |
| 12:08.47 | Makk | I'm on a german rp server |
| 12:09.02 | Fisker- | same here |
| 12:09.03 | Kinkx | my server aint even on the list yet :[ |
| 12:09.06 | kebinusan | I do think they need to change some things about warriors though, a naxx geared warrior is useless as a tank in a 5man instance because of his inability to generate rage and hold aggro on multiple targets |
| 12:09.07 | usz | ow its up :) |
| 12:09.12 | MoonWolf | how does a troll accent in german work ? |
| 12:09.21 | kebinusan | If I were running shattered halls Id rather have a paladin or a druid than a prot warrior |
| 12:09.27 | Toddde | vurst mon |
| 12:09.29 | Toddde | wurst* |
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| 12:10.26 | Toddde | this is damn annoying |
| 12:10.28 | Mikk | kebinusan: Bs. Put on more dps gear and you're fine. |
| 12:10.36 | Toddde | they'ce taken the message down, not updated it or anything |
| 12:10.40 | kebinusan | mikk still mutlitarget tanking is a problem |
| 12:10.48 | Mikk | aye |
| 12:10.50 | usz | yea, T.5 + shield is fine for 5man |
| 12:10.50 | [Ammo] | yeah it is |
| 12:10.55 | kebinusan | Make thunderclap usable in defensive stance would be a good start |
| 12:10.55 | usz | T2.5 * |
| 12:11.05 | usz | kebinusan, yes plx make it ^^ |
| 12:11.06 | Mikk | remove the cooldown on cleave ftw perhaps? |
| 12:11.08 | [Ammo] | although you could zerkertank |
| 12:11.17 | Mikk | yeah zerkertank sounds good also |
| 12:11.22 | Mikk | dual wield tanking |
| 12:11.25 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:11.28 | usz | current 5man instances you can actually DPS tank |
| 12:11.34 | [Ammo] | we're not talking current 5mans |
| 12:11.40 | usz | bah |
| 12:11.41 | [Ammo] | current 5mans my warlock can tank |
| 12:11.46 | Mikk | haha |
| 12:11.49 | usz | ^^ |
| 12:11.51 | Mikk | true dat :> |
| 12:11.55 | Jygga | the german client is now to be listed under "comedy" in stores |
| 12:12.06 | Mikk | my warlock does tank more mobs than joe warrior in current 5mans :> |
| 12:12.08 | Jygga | the translation is rediculous :) |
| 12:12.10 | Mikk | just slap life drain on everything and take the punishment :> |
| 12:12.18 | Kinkx | kebinusan - it was like that prepatch as well, probably worse now though, but it's like that.. the better tank gear a warrior has, the harder it gets to hold aggro in a 5 or 20 man instance |
| 12:12.21 | [Ammo] | dot it all up and suck the life out of one |
| 12:12.23 | Jygga | ridiculous even or whatever |
| 12:12.39 | axxo | you don't need tanks for 5/10 mans |
| 12:12.45 | kebinusan | Kinkx: well the main thing is yes it hasnt changed, but paladins and druids are both pretty good at multitarget tanking now |
| 12:12.52 | kebinusan | axxo, you do in TBC |
| 12:12.55 | Mikk | druids always were |
| 12:12.56 | [Ammo] | atm I'm having fun with my pally though |
| 12:13.02 | [Ammo] | healed a full BRD clear |
| 12:13.03 | Mikk | well at least post the druid lovepatch |
| 12:13.10 | [Ammo] | 3 pallies, shadowpriest and rogue |
| 12:13.13 | Toddde | swipe ftw |
| 12:13.13 | [Ammo] | kinda funky |
| 12:13.18 | Mikk | Toddde: exactly |
| 12:13.20 | Jygga | ive seen 5man mage teams clearing strat |
| 12:13.25 | axxo | seen 1 rogue solo brd |
| 12:13.27 | [Ammo] | yeah easy |
| 12:13.37 | kebinusan | 67 paladin solo baron run in under 45 minutes |
| 12:13.38 | [Ammo] | but I am level 55 |
| 12:13.42 | renchap | latest fubar is a bit buggued :/ |
| 12:14.30 | kebinusan | Another decent suggestion I read was to allow devistate to affect all sundered mobs |
| 12:14.49 | kebinusan | so you could sunder tab target and spam devistate to hold aggro on multiple targets |
| 12:14.54 | Mikk | Kinkx: However, the aggro problem is true for druids as well as warriors. I've been gearing up my druid alt and now i'm closer to 20% dodge and 9k armor. Starting to have aggro problems suddenly. |
| 12:15.06 | Mikk | Against the target being nuked that is |
| 12:15.10 | Fisker- | btw [Ammo] |
| 12:15.15 | Fisker- | does ora's autoinvite only work in raid? |
| 12:15.28 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:15.31 | [Ammo] | form a raid with 2 people |
| 12:15.34 | [Ammo] | and invite the rest |
| 12:15.36 | Fisker- | Do you hear me crying? :( |
| 12:15.40 | [Ammo] | since oRA is only active in a raid |
| 12:15.47 | Fisker- | ah |
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| 12:15.52 | kebinusan | It seems kinda silly to give warriors massive mitigation and then tell them, oh you you only get rage if something actually hits you |
| 12:16.02 | [Ammo] | design flaw |
| 12:16.02 | Kinkx | hehe ^^ |
| 12:16.09 | Mikk | nah, it's sane if you ask me |
| 12:16.30 | [Ammo] | that's why warriors have to spec prot |
| 12:16.34 | Mikk | having one character be able to walk through the instance without needing healing, and keeping everyone else from being hit = wrong |
| 12:16.35 | [Ammo] | or they don't get enough aggro generation |
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| 12:17.02 | [Ammo] | mainly for naxx encounters though |
| 12:17.10 | [Ammo] | and the tricky ones like Noth with the blinking |
| 12:17.53 | Mikk | speaking of blinking.. wouldn't a bear tank on the aoe blinky guy in MC be kinda imba? (not that i care about MC anymore but ..) |
| 12:17.58 | Mikk | thinking of feral charge when he blinks off |
| 12:17.58 | usz | Noth is where you hug your Major Rage Pot |
| 12:18.06 | Kinkx | I think it's kind of silly that a full naxx geared prot warrior, could be beat by a prot specced warrior in valor when it comes to holding aggro in say Strat or Scholo. Of course the valor guy gonna need more healing, but he gonna have so much more rage then you that you don't stand a chance unless you take off your pants and shield or something |
| 12:18.13 | usz | Mighty even |
| 12:18.15 | kebinusan | heh how we do noth is retarded |
| 12:18.34 | kebinusan | We just have one of our destro locks spam searing pain on the blinks and bring him back to the tank |
| 12:18.41 | Mikk | Kinkx: So replace the shield with an offhand sword, outaggro him, AND take less damage. Problem solved. |
| 12:18.43 | [Ammo] | we use a paladin |
| 12:18.45 | [Ammo] | with excorsism |
| 12:18.46 | axxo | Kinkx: the naxx geared on can just put up his dps gear, and have the same effect |
| 12:18.53 | Iceroth | Mikk, i don't understand how you can have aggro problems, i can pull mobs from our tanks (non-prot though) easily without taunting and with BoS on (though, the quality of some of our tanks leaves a lot to hope for) |
| 12:18.56 | ZealotOnAStick | we use a hunter with distracting shot. |
| 12:19.01 | kebinusan | yeah I wish we'd use a paladin, noth hits kinda hard on cloth |
| 12:19.09 | ZealotOnAStick | if the searing totem doesn't get him. |
| 12:19.38 | Azurewrath | ya, searing totem on noth ftw :) |
| 12:19.48 | Mikk | Iceroth: Well, it's not a bad problem or anything. It was just a lot easier when I had less armor and dodge. |
| 12:20.03 | Fisker- | weab ? |
| 12:20.05 | Fisker- | ~seen weab |
| 12:20.12 | purl | weab is currently on #wowi-lounge (13h 20m 48s) #wowace (13h 20m 48s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 3h 52m 12s, last said: '<3 sayclub'. |
| 12:20.18 | Mikk | And remember we're talking 5mans where everyone just omfgnukes and doesn't exactly wait for sunders etc |
| 12:20.38 | Iceroth | sunders? is that someting edible? |
| 12:20.43 | Mikk | hehe |
| 12:20.46 | kebinusan | I dont fire at something I cant tank w/o 3 sunders or so |
| 12:21.05 | axxo | tell your tank to open with taunt |
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| 12:21.07 | Mikk | well that's the problem. everyone can tank everything in e.g. scholo except for possibly the butcher :> |
| 12:21.07 | Fisker- | anyone know if blizzard has said that expansion rep will be reset on the day of the TBC release? |
| 12:21.08 | Kinkx | Yea, that would "solve" it, but don't you think it's a bit silly? You have worked hours on getting this gear, THE best -tank- gear in the game, that is useless to wear as a tank in a 5 -> 20 man instance |
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| 12:21.36 | Kinkx | Like someone said, it's a design flaw |
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| 12:22.19 | kebinusan | yeah, you can tell them to take off a shield, but that renders half the abilities in defensive stance useless, so you might as well tell em to take off half their gear so they get hit for more |
| 12:22.19 | Mikk | Kinkx: It still makes sense to me. *shrug* |
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| 12:22.54 | kebinusan | mikk, why does it make sense that you're better off wearing valor in scholomance than dreadnaught |
| 12:23.31 | odt | u're not supposed to go to scholo in dreadnaught i guess |
| 12:23.33 | Mikk | Because you wouldn't need a healer otherwise? =P |
| 12:23.41 | Mikk | Nicely autobalancing factor there imo |
| 12:23.49 | Kinkx | I was just thinking that the best tank gear in the game would show the same benefit in a 5 man instance as say a full t3 mage has in a 5 man instance.. but thats not the case, thats all i'm saying |
| 12:24.01 | [Ammo] | I agree with Kinkx on that one |
| 12:24.31 | Teomyr | ckknight: ping |
| 12:24.40 | kebinusan | Nod |
| 12:25.13 | Mikk | Then again you can't really make full use of T3 anything in 5mans. Unless you want aggro. Even from a valor tank. |
| 12:25.23 | [Ammo] | no Mikk |
| 12:25.30 | kebinusan | mikk, what does it matter, as a warlock it dies before it gets to me |
| 12:25.32 | [Ammo] | the warrior should be able to perform just as well |
| 12:25.33 | Mikk | hehe |
| 12:25.43 | [Ammo] | my warlock == godmode in current 5 mans |
| 12:25.49 | [Ammo] | warrior in t3 == crapola |
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| 12:26.56 | Mikk | so where's the problem? let the warrior sit on everything not begin nuked without taking any damage whatsoever. everything else dies :> |
| 12:26.57 | [Ammo] | the problem is t3 warrior gear with the current rage normalization that they've done is only useful in the high end instances |
| 12:27.29 | kebinusan | We had one warrior that liked to pull one of the little neutral bugs in AQ20 and let it beat on him most of the instance.. he called it his rage battery |
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| 12:27.30 | [Ammo] | Mikk: because some shadowpriest will probably get aggro with healing from vamp etc |
| 12:27.45 | Mikk | kebinusan: rofl |
| 12:28.00 | phyber | Mmmm, VE. |
| 12:28.14 | Necrathex | healers didn't pull the neutral off him? |
| 12:28.30 | Groll | bah i will have to run teksupport for like an hour now :/ |
| 12:28.41 | phyber | when we did Taerar the other day, 4 warlocks and a shadow priest in one group. even with all of our life tapping, we had full HP. VE heals are sweet. |
| 12:28.57 | kebinusan | god ve+vt on loatheb is so damn sexy |
| 12:29.19 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:29.23 | [Ammo] | on thaddius it owns too |
| 12:29.33 | [Ammo] | it basically owns on everything :) |
| 12:29.39 | kebinusan | except noth |
| 12:29.44 | kebinusan | blink, there goes a shadow priest |
| 12:29.58 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 12:29.59 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:30.06 | [Ammo] | on Noth our shadowpriest isn't allowed to do it :p |
| 12:30.24 | Teomyr | when we wipe to a boss in bwl, like half of the raid starts to whine about the shadow priests, while they don't mind off-specced warriors, moonkin/feral druids or retribution pallys :/ |
| 12:30.38 | Toddde | hmm yeah |
| 12:30.53 | [Ammo] | it's because you stand out in your black cloud |
| 12:30.54 | Toddde | i find it more attractive to moan at the shadowpriests for some reasn |
| 12:30.56 | Toddde | cant explain it |
| 12:30.57 | kebinusan | Teomyr: *shrug* our shadow priests know before fights if they're expected to heal or not so there isnt any confusion |
| 12:31.11 | rw3 | Hmm, any advice on how to go about in getting all buffs that affect spelldamage (or any school) and keeping it refreshed? Worth incorporting SpecialEvents? |
| 12:31.22 | [Ammo] | grrr at blizzard not having started my server yet |
| 12:31.24 | Codayus | And if you can possibly get away with it, 1 shadow priest with VT can dish out enormous mana regen to another 4 healers. Mmmm. |
| 12:31.24 | MoonWolf | Can we keep class balance / raid drame discussions to a minimum please ? |
| 12:31.25 | Groll | hmm how long until something is commited until it ends up on the files place? |
| 12:31.46 | [Ammo] | 20 mins tops groll |
| 12:31.47 | DrZoot | Ok, I have a variable k with the string name of a function I want to create on self, is that possible? if so any clues? |
| 12:31.50 | Necrathex | MoonWolf: why? it's interesting :P |
| 12:31.53 | Groll | [Ammo] oke thx |
| 12:32.02 | kebinusan | MoonWolf: its been mostly civil |
| 12:32.04 | Groll | 10 more min then :D |
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| 12:32.24 | Ominous | what causes invalid capture index? |
| 12:32.34 | MoonWolf | kebinusan, i know, i want to keep it that way, and this discussion is 2 comments away from flaming. these discussion alway's are. |
| 12:32.35 | Toddde | oh wow trollbane us up |
| 12:32.39 | odt | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=100000008&sid=1 |
| 12:33.21 | Groll | anyone has any idea what this could be? after like playing for 30 min to 1 hour my mem has gone up to almost my garbage limit, after that it more or less stays at that even if i do a garbage collection. |
| 12:33.33 | kebinusan | The one thing Im honestly interested in is seeing how hybrids shake out after TBC, I mean you wont be able to say, oh need me to tank lemme go respec |
| 12:33.39 | Groll | i dont really have to do any fighting it seems but just mainly run around |
| 12:34.18 | phyber | odt: might be a good post if they had 2 years experience of applying the same patch over and over again. unfortunatly, it's different content each time. |
| 12:34.40 | odt | well, still. |
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| 12:35.03 | Groll | kebinusan well shammys will do decent dps with enhancement and provide a good buff, resto will be as usuall except we do NO damage what so ever :P and well elemental is not really worth it |
| 12:35.16 | odt | i for example patch often customer software, each release is different |
| 12:35.26 | odt | still we give realistic downtime figures for the patch progress |
| 12:35.35 | odt | usually even a couple hours longer, just incase |
| 12:35.50 | odt | and if you're done earlier, all fine and dandy |
| 12:35.56 | [1]Ominous | bah dced, does anyone know what invalid capture index means |
| 12:35.56 | kebinusan | yeah, I got to group with a shaman for the first time on beta |
| 12:36.02 | Groll | agree on that one odt |
| 12:36.03 | kebinusan | <3 wrath of air totem |
| 12:36.10 | Makk | how do I include a variable in a print("")? |
| 12:36.19 | Groll | kebinusan well actually it aint very good :P |
| 12:36.26 | Makk | "text" . var . "text"? |
| 12:36.33 | Teomyr | Makk: two dots |
| 12:36.36 | Makk | ok |
| 12:36.37 | Makk | thanks |
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| 12:37.00 | cncfanatics | any nice DoT timer on wowace somewhere ? |
| 12:37.04 | kebinusan | odt: Under promise and over deliver... wow fails because they try to give arent conservative enough in their downtime estimates |
| 12:37.07 | Makk | Chronometer, cncfanatics |
| 12:37.08 | kebinusan | cncfanatics: chronometer |
| 12:37.10 | Necrathex | feral druids with good gear are amazing tanks, can dish out damage almost to rogue levels and can still heal if needed |
| 12:37.16 | DrZoot | isnt there another way to do it? like "test %x",var not sure about the %x bit |
| 12:37.16 | Teomyr | Makk: that is, two dots each, just to clarify: "text" .. var .. "text" |
| 12:37.20 | Makk | yep :) |
| 12:37.39 | odt | kebinusan: i don't think that's their issue tbh |
| 12:37.41 | Mikk | DrZoot: string.format("Foo %s bar %d", "string", 123) |
| 12:37.45 | odt | usually it seems like they are done at the right time |
| 12:37.48 | kebinusan | bleh not completing thoughts, but yes I do feel that when engineers at blizzard miss a deadline they fail to give an update |
| 12:37.51 | odt | but then some weird things start happening |
| 12:37.59 | DrZoot | Mikk: ahh kk |
| 12:38.11 | Makk | hmm |
| 12:38.25 | Makk | could you take a look at some code for me? |
| 12:39.15 | odt | could be a sign of trying to deliver at the promised time, and forgetting to follow the proper procedure |
| 12:39.25 | Teomyr | Makk: http://ace.pastey.net |
| 12:39.30 | Makk | i know |
| 12:39.32 | odt | but that couldn't happen for 2 years in a row, could it? |
| 12:39.43 | Teomyr | Makk: well then, link it ;) |
| 12:39.57 | Makk | http://ace.pastey.net/3804 |
| 12:40.07 | kebinusan | odt: well really makes you question their change control process if they have this many problems |
| 12:40.12 | Makk | I hear UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED has loads of processing hooked to it |
| 12:40.15 | odt | yeah |
| 12:40.27 | Makk | UNIT_MANA too.. can I narrow it down? |
| 12:40.37 | Makk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.44 | odt | and i'm positive that the US patches have gone _a lot_ smoother |
| 12:40.50 | Makk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.58 | odt | not that there isn't plenty of bitching and whining going on there aswell |
| 12:41.57 | kebinusan | yeah, the 2.0 patch was pretty poorly handled |
| 12:42.21 | odt | not trying to sound racist or anything, but i'm 90% sure, that if the WoW EU team was german, not french - it would be much better :P |
| 12:42.23 | Teomyr | Makk: no, that's not possible, as far as i know |
| 12:42.32 | Makk | ok. |
| 12:42.40 | Makk | anyway |
| 12:42.50 | Teomyr | Makk: but you could reduce the overhead by checking if the UNIT_MANA event was for your pet everytime it is called |
| 12:43.00 | Makk | ok, how would I do that? |
| 12:43.09 | kebinusan | Id just be happy if they treated us like paying customers instead of addicts |
| 12:43.21 | Teomyr | Makk: change the function to: function mDarkPact:UNIT_MANA(unitID) |
| 12:43.23 | Makk | this is the first time I'm writing an addon, sorry if I'm asking stupid questions |
| 12:44.06 | Teomyr | Makk: and then, at the beginning of the function, add: if unitID ~= "pet" then return; end |
| 12:44.15 | DrZoot | whats a good generic name for rage/mana/energy considering that there all basically the same |
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| 12:44.37 | DrZoot | ive been calling it rme but thats a bit unreadable for other people |
| 12:44.50 | Teomyr | DrZoot: not sure, but i think blizzard calls it "power" in the ui code |
| 12:45.04 | DrZoot | Teomyr: power it is then :D thanks |
| 12:45.23 | Necrathex | focus :p |
| 12:45.24 | Makk | Teomyr: return closes the function? |
| 12:45.26 | zoktar | any alt to auto bar? |
| 12:46.04 | yacoob | Too bad wow doesn't look like its trailer. |
| 12:46.11 | yacoob | That is, the style is more cartooney. |
| 12:46.15 | Makk | I mean, it stops executing the function from there and down? |
| 12:46.16 | odt | would be fun to have a making-of DVD on the TBC collectors edition where they show a "patching of US servers" and the "EU version", so we could really have a look behind the scenes |
| 12:46.16 | CIA-17 | 03ominous * r21554 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (RulesDot.lua RulesStun.lua): FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - attempt to fox error |
| 12:46.19 | yacoob | Still, warlock scene rocks. |
| 12:46.31 | Makk | and "~=" is the same as "!="? |
| 12:46.59 | Makk | in other languages |
| 12:47.04 | Teomyr | Makk: yes, return quits the function, and it can also give a return value to the function that has called it. |
| 12:47.26 | Makk | I know PHP, so i understand some of this |
| 12:47.29 | Makk | :) |
| 12:47.49 | Teomyr | Makk: ok, well then ;) ~= is the lua equivalent of != |
| 12:47.56 | Makk | ok. cool |
| 12:48.22 | Makk | now, how do I add support for the ace textures? |
| 12:48.38 | Makk | what's the library? |
| 12:49.42 | Iceroth | sufrace? |
| 12:49.53 | Makk | ahh |
| 12:52.01 | Kirkburn | Hey, wait ... ominous just "foxed" an error in RogueTimerFu? :D |
| 12:52.35 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r21555 10Henge/Modules/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Henge: fixes for icons |
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| 12:53.13 | Ominous | kirkburn: oops! |
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| 13:01.11 | Ominous | nevcairiel: you here? |
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| 13:01.59 | Iceroth | huh Mikk? |
| 13:04.15 | [Cu]Werik | heh:) |
| 13:04.50 | DrZoot | is there any way to copy one table over another? superimpose rather than delete what im after |
| 13:04.58 | DrZoot | s/delete/replace |
| 13:06.25 | Soulless | do you have to type something special for lua to treat a string as a string and no a number? |
| 13:06.51 | Soulless | like abc = "something" is all you need right? |
| 13:07.03 | DrZoot | Soulless yeah |
| 13:08.42 | Soulless | is there a substitue function in lua |
| 13:08.48 | Soulless | like $xxx type |
| 13:08.57 | Soulless | or just string.sub |
| 13:15.35 | Ominous | how come bigwigs takes so long to load, it takes 1.7 secs on my pc and i have seperated out the modules into the LOD addons |
| 13:16.36 | kebinusan | hmm what was the name of that mod that hides the minimap if you dont have any tracking skill enabled |
| 13:17.13 | Necrathex | hehe, evil |
| 13:17.39 | Iceroth | "Hell no. FuBar plugins are for nubs, seriously. PerfectRaid 2.0 has its own configuration GUI." <- what's gone into clad? |
| 13:18.05 | Makk | how do I use surfacelib to give an addon textures and stuff? |
| 13:18.08 | kebinusan | Ominous: are you running embeded libraries, cause it could take so long because its loading those |
| 13:18.10 | Makk | it has no wiki page =/ |
| 13:18.19 | Ominous | kebinusan: noop |
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| 13:18.49 | kebinusan | Iceroth: I dunno he seems to like taking pot shots |
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| 13:19.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Actually, there uis some sense to it - drop down lists are not always the best way of doing a GUI |
| 13:19.50 | krka | yes they are! |
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| 13:20.05 | Groll | eep someone give me 15 gig!! Stanley.Kubrick.Collection-Tbytes.Xmas.Stocking.torrent :P |
| 13:20.09 | Fritti | no, but defining "drop down lists" == "fubar plugin" is dumb too |
| 13:20.13 | Iceroth | well ofc but the way he said it - and besides, i still don't know why he abandoned ace |
| 13:20.25 | Fritti | some fallout between him & ckk, I've heard |
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| 13:21.17 | Kirkburn|afk | It's probably best not to go into this, these kind of convos often end badly |
| 13:21.26 | Fritti | yup |
| 13:21.35 | Kirkburn|afk | People are allowed their opinions :) |
| 13:21.37 | [Androx] | hi..someone can help me with AoFDKP? |
| 13:21.49 | Fritti | still, it's too bad - clad is a good coder |
| 13:21.57 | DrZoot | swap the somone and the can around |
| 13:22.22 | Iceroth | ah, Kirkburn, just switched to CL2 - would you mind considering adding an option to use bold version of the font as the default font? |
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| 13:22.51 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r21556 10GratuityLib/ (Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity-2.0.lua Lib/GratuityLib.lua): GratuityLib - fixed SetOwner error |
| 13:23.08 | Kirkburn|afk | DrZoot, what wrong with sentence the is? |
| 13:23.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Iceroth, easily done |
| 13:23.50 | Kirkburn|afk | By editing it, not by me changing something :P |
| 13:24.08 | DrZoot | ..... |
| 13:24.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Probably easiest would be to make yourself a little font pack plugin? |
| 13:24.17 | DrZoot | :P |
| 13:24.46 | Iceroth | i'll take that as a no :) |
| 13:24.47 | Kirkburn|afk | That way updates to ClearFont2 probably won't break your change |
| 13:24.57 | Kirkburn|afk | um, yeah =) |
| 13:25.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, that is an idea though |
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| 13:26.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Currently I specify normal, bold, italic, bolditalic and number options. I suppose it would be possible to make each of those a font choice |
| 13:27.34 | kebinusan | Is there a working Tracking fubar plugin floating around somewhere |
| 13:27.40 | DarkImakuni | Guys, may I have permission to deuce VisorGUI if it hasn't already been done? |
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| 13:29.42 | yacoob | it hasn't, and you have my blessing for that ;) |
| 13:29.54 | MoonWolf | Is there a list of all ui templates ? |
| 13:31.18 | Health | "all ui templates" ? |
| 13:31.29 | Health | that blizzard use? |
| 13:35.51 | Teomyr | how do i use AceEvent inside my own library? "local MyLibrary = AceLibrary:GetInstance('AceEvent-2.0')", add my own functions to MyLibrary and then register it? |
| 13:36.17 | Teomyr | since it's a mixin |
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| 13:37.42 | greylock | hmm, some addon is breaking my dropdown menu in guildcharter. I can rightclick a player, but if i select whisper (or invite or whatever) i always get an error This a known problem? |
| 13:37.59 | CIA-17 | 03laric * r21557 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.lua AoFDKP.toc): |
| 13:37.59 | CIA-17 | AoFDKP : |
| 13:37.59 | CIA-17 | -Switched to using RosterLib_UnitChanged instead of RosterLib_RosterUpdated. |
| 13:38.00 | CIA-17 | -Fixed a case error in .toc |
| 13:39.39 | DrZoot | is there anyway i can have to types of Ace modules in a single mod? I want to have two different prototypes |
| 13:40.04 | CIA-17 | 03laric * r21558 10AoFDKP/AoFDKP.lua: |
| 13:40.05 | CIA-17 | AoFDKP : |
| 13:40.05 | CIA-17 | -Remember to turn off debugging on commit. |
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| 13:40.23 | DrZoot | s/to types/two types/ |
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| 13:41.54 | Laricwork | you mean you want two aofdkp = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("FuBarPlugin-2.0") or ? |
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| 13:43.26 | haste | Iceroth: well, fubar plugins are a growing problem |
| 13:44.33 | DrZoot | Laricwork: I searched a bit more and read the API docs for AceOO a bit more, Im fairly sure AceOO is what I want. |
| 13:45.16 | Iceroth | fubar plugins are annoying if there's no "hide plugin" option |
| 13:45.36 | kebinusan | hmm could someone do me a favor and look at the externals on T_Tracking, it seems its creating direcotories named 'libs\AceAddon-2.0\' instead of the subfolder structure |
| 13:46.02 | kebinusan | so is T_TrackingFu |
| 13:46.07 | kenlyric|work | Iceroth. I am interested in your ideas. Where do I sign up? |
| 13:46.19 | Iceroth | huh? |
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| 13:46.55 | kenlyric|work | I was agreeing with you about fubar plugins. |
| 13:47.12 | Iceroth | ok... O.o |
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| 13:51.35 | kenlyric|work | hmmm..t hat's fun. |
| 13:51.36 | Makk | ehm |
| 13:51.41 | Makk | my textures are acting wierd |
| 13:51.49 | kenlyric|work | all my fubar plugins are all on top of each other. |
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| 13:53.26 | Nickenyfiken | yeah i hate all fubar plugins i cant hide without disabling the addon |
| 13:53.53 | Makk | http://img.makken.info/upload/mDarkPact.jpg |
| 13:54.08 | kenlyric|work | prat is beating up on it, I guess. |
| 13:54.22 | Makk | http://ace.pastey.net/3806 |
| 13:54.33 | Makk | there's the code snips |
| 13:55.23 | Makk | ah, it doesn't stretch otu |
| 13:55.25 | Makk | out |
| 13:55.26 | Makk | hm |
| 13:55.49 | Makk | how do I make it stretch? =/ |
| 13:56.49 | DrZoot | <Anchor point="TOPLEFT" relativePoint="BOTTOMRIGHT"/> :P |
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| 13:57.16 | Laricwork | Nickenyfiken wouldnt that mean that one have to write one plugin and then add a fubar plugin to control the addon? iirc you cannot do it any other way? |
| 13:57.43 | DrZoot | makk: sorry, that was me being an ass, that wont help you. I havent used surface lib before so Im not much help sorry |
| 13:58.09 | DrZoot | Makk: what is the mod supposed to do? just out of interest? |
| 13:58.31 | Makk | It's bar that shows (graphically) how much mana you will get from Dark pact |
| 13:58.52 | Makk | I just need the background texture to stretch now, gif info on how to! |
| 13:59.21 | Jygga | is there some addon like "defend yourself" available for 2.0 ? |
| 13:59.24 | Jygga | i guess not 8/ |
| 13:59.24 | DrZoot | Makk: right. wont you pretty much always get the same amount of mana for each tap? |
| 13:59.42 | Laricwork | wont stretching it make it look awful? isnt it better to tile it? |
| 13:59.54 | DrZoot | Makk: unless your +dmg changes fairly drastically between pacts |
| 14:00.03 | Iceroth | uh, CloseGnome doesn't swap idols in combat? |
| 14:00.04 | Makk | tileSize Number - Control how large each copy of the bgFile becomes on-screen |
| 14:00.14 | Makk | DrZoot: depends on your imp mana |
| 14:00.16 | Makk | I can tap like |
| 14:00.19 | Makk | 2,5 times |
| 14:00.19 | Makk | :) |
| 14:00.29 | DrZoot | Makk: yeah same here |
| 14:00.38 | Makk | it's just a toy and my first addon project, just wanted to try something |
| 14:00.48 | DrZoot | Makk: ahh kk. |
| 14:00.58 | Makk | well |
| 14:01.01 | Makk | do i stretch the bar? |
| 14:01.06 | Makk | i don't get it... |
| 14:01.16 | Makk | it works fine with the statusbartexture |
| 14:01.21 | Makk | but not with the background. |
| 14:01.43 | Makk | shit, gtg. |
| 14:01.53 | DrZoot | cya |
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| 14:07.12 | Nickenyfiken | Laricwork: yeah well what i meant was that alot of addons that is not a FuBar plugin ONLY has a module or something to show up on FuBar... like prat, bartender etc but they dont really depend on FuBar to work |
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| 14:07.31 | Nickenyfiken | so in the end i will end up having each of my installed ace addon as a icon on the bar |
| 14:07.37 | Nickenyfiken | just to pop up a config menu |
| 14:13.02 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r21559 10Visor2GUI/ (9 files): |
| 14:13.02 | CIA-17 | Visor2GUI: |
| 14:13.02 | CIA-17 | - Initial commit |
| 14:13.02 | CIA-17 | - A deuce'd version of the original VisorGUI, written by Tain, Rowne, Eraphine and Stylpe. |
| 14:16.51 | Dhraga | simpleminimap gave a error in the coords module |
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| 14:17.02 | DrZoot | How do mixins work with AceOO? Ive created a class and called :new("mixin1","mixin2 |
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| 14:17.08 | DrZoot | ") but no dice |
| 14:18.12 | Dhraga | simpleminimap error : http://pastey.net/3810 |
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| 14:21.43 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r21560 10Visor2GUI/ (. Desktop.ini): |
| 14:21.43 | CIA-17 | Visor2GUI |
| 14:21.43 | CIA-17 | - Setting properties. |
| 14:21.43 | CIA-17 | - Removed desktop.ini file. Why it was uploaded is beyond me. |
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| 14:25.07 | kenlyric|work | hahaha. |
| 14:25.11 | kenlyric|work | lousy windows :) |
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| 14:28.03 | snirks | hi |
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| 14:34.03 | snirks | XArt |
| 14:34.42 | snirks | does anyone know if XArt changes the viewport (thus giving less area to render), or does it only provide a background texture? |
| 14:36.37 | DrZoot | does anyone know what tostring() does? does it call the :tostring() function of the given argument? |
| 14:37.35 | DrZoot | An AceOO object is spitting out a huge line of garbage as its name, which is being aquired with tostring() but I cant work out what tostring is supposed to be doing |
| 14:39.33 | vhaarr | DrZoot: AceOO classes, interfaces and mixins should return something like MAJOR, MINOR for ToString. |
| 14:39.53 | FtH|eagle | snirks: only provides the background texture |
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| 14:41.01 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21561 10DeuceLog/ (DeuceLog.lua DeuceLog.toc): DeuceLog: Use local variables where appropriate and remove the old parser optimizers from the TOC. |
| 14:41.27 | abbat_w | Btw guys someone expirienced in new macro system? I want to make macro like /cast [target=focus,harm] Polymorh; Polymorph. It's work ok if i in range of my focus. But if i OOR i can't cast polymorph on my current target. Any way to fix it? I want to skip polymorph focus if i OOR on it |
| 14:41.49 | Fisker- | yay |
| 14:41.52 | Fisker- | first pvp mount |
| 14:41.52 | DrZoot | vhaarr: yeah I worked it out, the AceOO-2.0 Tutorial on the wiki has a typo, it calls it :tostring() rather than :ToSTring(), so tostring(AceOOObject) was returning garbage because :ToString() didnt exist |
| 14:41.53 | Fisker- | 4 to go :( |
| 14:42.34 | DrZoot | s/:ToSTring()/:ToString() |
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| 14:43.30 | vhaarr | DrZoot: AceOO objects automagically print something meaningful if you do tostring(object), I believe. |
| 14:43.45 | vhaarr | Maybe that's what the tutorial means. |
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| 14:44.40 | DrZoot | vhaarr: well, its sort of meaningful, if <Sub-Class(list of mixins)> helps you out :D |
| 14:44.48 | vhaarr | right |
| 14:44.56 | vhaarr | It's better than a table handle ID. |
| 14:45.11 | vhaarr | or, well, maybe not. |
| 14:45.12 | vhaarr | :P |
| 14:45.17 | DrZoot | lol, :D |
| 14:45.42 | Fisker- | Seriously vhaarr |
| 14:45.48 | vhaarr | srsly |
| 14:45.49 | Fisker- | it's not rocket surgery! |
| 14:45.50 | vhaarr | sup |
| 14:45.51 | Fisker- | http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/bshaftoe00/sebspeakerwg2.jpg |
| 14:51.26 | vhaarr | haha |
| 14:52.25 | DrZoot | thats gold |
| 14:52.34 | Fisker- | lol a troll on this server named Xart |
| 14:54.33 | FtH|eagle | -_- |
| 14:54.47 | vhaarr | SorrenTimers really need some work, the code is pretty bad. |
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| 14:55.26 | Codayus | Fisker-: That's AWESOME. |
| 14:56.22 | kenlyric|work | people like this generally suck beyond the telling of it. They're too busy noticing how much everyone else sucks to see it. |
| 14:56.45 | Codayus | I knew a raid leader like that...he organized UBRS speed runs to try and teach people how to be better in MC. |
| 14:56.49 | kenlyric|work | though, amen to the penultimate comment. "If you're not read then don't fucking click ready" |
| 14:56.59 | waffle | haha. "I could 40 box dps better than that" |
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| 14:57.27 | Codayus | ....we failed to down Drak in a 15 man, after he got punted off the bridge before Drak's room. TWICE. Some people would stop trying to tank a mob that punts you in the MIDDLE of the bridge after the first fall. |
| 14:57.40 | kenlyric|work | anyone here using fubar and prat and finding prat completely hosing fubar? |
| 14:57.53 | Codayus | (Some people wouldn't try and tank a mob with knockback in the middle of a bridge even once...) |
| 14:58.13 | waffle | earlier today my fubar got completely hosed. i deleted my fubar.lua from saved variables, resetup everything, and now it's ok. |
| 14:58.19 | kenlyric|work | yeah, you only need to do very stupid things once. |
| 14:59.03 | kenlyric|work | all of my fubar plugins are on top of each other in the left center of the screen. |
| 14:59.21 | Codayus | The raid leader I knew thought he was a genius, and he'd developed the Best UBRS Strategy EVAH. Admitting failure was out of the question, and changing strategies would be admitting failure. :-) |
| 14:59.39 | waffle | yeah, mine was something like that. all overlapping and nonresponsibe. |
| 14:59.45 | waffle | no idea why it happened. |
| 15:00.08 | Burton | hi there, my oCB doesnt show casting interruptions, is this a known bug? (I always keep it updated) |
| 15:00.16 | kenlyric|work | oh, PratFrame:SetPoint() is trying to anchor to itself. So, trying to screw itself and screwing everyone else instead. |
| 15:00.20 | waffle | also amen to "I don't care how you did it in your guild" |
| 15:00.27 | kenlyric|work | burton, works for me. |
| 15:01.04 | Codayus | Oh, wow, there's some good lines in that. "There's not a bus big enough to run over all the people I hate." "Not even a double decker?" |
| 15:01.08 | kenlyric|work | guess there was a bug somewhere along the line with the new fubar plugin that's built into prat. |
| 15:01.43 | kenlyric|work | because it appeared after I removed fubar_pratfu |
| 15:02.21 | waffle | hm. I also noticed I had two "prat" entries when I rightclicked in an empty fubar space and navigated to the plugins list. |
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| 15:02.54 | kenlyric|work | well, prat has a fubar hook built in now, so if you have the fubar_pratfu plugin, you'll see two. |
| 15:02.59 | neenee | woo, I was sent a second TBC key :) |
| 15:03.01 | kenlyric|work | I think that just happened last night. |
| 15:03.35 | waffle | No, no fubar_pratfu |
| 15:03.39 | waffle | just Prat and Prat_Fubar2 folders |
| 15:03.51 | kenlyric|work | oh, ok, had the name wrong. |
| 15:04.02 | kenlyric|work | remove prat_fubar2... you don't need it anymore. |
| 15:04.03 | waffle | so the second one isn't needed anymore? |
| 15:04.06 | Burton | kenlyric|work, I meant casting delays, does that work too on yours? |
| 15:04.06 | waffle | ok. |
| 15:04.17 | kenlyric|work | Burton, yes, like when I get hit and it adds a second? |
| 15:04.25 | Burton | yup |
| 15:04.39 | kenlyric|work | that works on my oCB... get a little red number above the right upper corner. |
| 15:04.47 | vhaarr | o_O 24 season 6 |
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| 15:05.38 | Burton | my ocb casting bar just fades and I'm still casting... it's frustating :) |
| 15:06.13 | waffle | I noticed that bug for a while now, I don't know if it's still happening because I've been playing my rogue recently |
| 15:06.33 | kenlyric|work | that can happen if you're at the *very* tail end of a cast. |
| 15:06.55 | kenlyric|work | I figured that was just a limitation of server/client latency. |
| 15:07.13 | waffle | it was happening for any interrupt. you'd never see the +1 thing, the bar just completely disappears. |
| 15:07.38 | kenlyric|work | meh... grrr, this sell price tainting bug hurts my brain. |
| 15:07.47 | kenlyric|work | because it happens in both informant and KC_Items... |
| 15:08.10 | kenlyric|work | don't they both keep their own database of items? |
| 15:08.19 | Burton | btw I'm playing with a french wow client, but I don't think its related... |
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| 15:11.56 | rw3 | When I hook SetSpell the game doesn't display the original tooltip at all. How do I make the original tooltip display? |
| 15:12.13 | vhaarr | You securehook it. |
| 15:12.32 | rw3 | Do I have to? |
| 15:12.40 | vhaarr | Well, if you don't, you won't get a tooltip. |
| 15:12.57 | Tornhoof | atleast not in combat |
| 15:12.58 | rw3 | Alright :P |
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| 15:13.41 | rw3 | Does SetAction have to be securehooked as well? |
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| 15:16.45 | snirks | i have a problem with !!!standalonelibraries |
| 15:17.01 | kenlyric|work | that's redundant. |
| 15:17.04 | snirks | all the folders inside it are empty, even after updating with and without externals |
| 15:17.37 | rw3 | extract the folders directly into \addons\ |
| 15:17.47 | rw3 | not addons\!!!standalonelibraries\ |
| 15:18.09 | Kirkburn|afk | read the bloomin' readme |
| 15:18.15 | snirks | ive read it 100 times |
| 15:18.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Not enough? |
| 15:18.43 | DrZoot | lol |
| 15:18.48 | Kirkburn|afk | It seemed pretty plain english to me ... |
| 15:18.49 | snirks | will it remove the already existing embedded libs from the addons that have libs? |
| 15:18.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope |
| 15:19.02 | snirks | to collect them in 1 spot? |
| 15:19.17 | DrZoot | one ring to bind them all style |
| 15:19.26 | Kirkburn|afk | To do that you'll need to do a full 'unembedded' WAU install |
| 15:19.27 | Grine | if you have the folder !!!StandoaloneLibraries in your addon folder it won't do anything |
| 15:19.33 | rw3 | Ok, another question. Gratuity:SetAction( slot ) in SetAction( frame, slot ) works but Gratuity:SetSpell( bla, slot ) doesn't? |
| 15:19.37 | Kirkburn|afk | i.e. turn off version checking and make it delete before extracting |
| 15:19.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Then do a without externals update |
| 15:19.59 | snirks | Kirkburn|afk: that is what i want. i want to save some space in my addons folder by having all libs in 1 place and not in each addon |
| 15:20.05 | rw3 | Gives error Invalid spell slot in SetSpell. Any ideas why? |
| 15:20.05 | kenlyric|work | seems like a lot of work. |
| 15:20.17 | snirks | Kirkburn|afk: i read here that that will shorten down first-login-loadingtime |
| 15:20.21 | Kirkburn|afk | You only have to do it once =) |
| 15:20.28 | Kirkburn|afk | snirks, indeed it can |
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| 15:21.38 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 15:21.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Hullo |
| 15:22.04 | rw3 | Ermm let me rephrase: Gratuity:SetSpell( slot ) where slot is spellbook_id number gives an error of "Invalid spell slot in SetSpell". Ideas? |
| 15:22.08 | Kirkburn|afk | (you may find using standalones *may* cause problems with addons that aren't updated that frequently, but such problems are rare) |
| 15:22.21 | dafire | Saroz ? |
| 15:22.23 | Tornhoof | you forgot somethign rw3 |
| 15:22.27 | Kirkburn|afk | (I use about 80 Ace addons and rarely if ever find a problem) |
| 15:22.47 | Tornhoof | SetSpell( spellid, "spell" ); |
| 15:22.57 | Kirkburn|afk | (And I'm on the beta where stuff changes all the time =) |
| 15:23.01 | Tornhoof | or BOOKTYPE_SPELL or similar |
| 15:23.03 | rw3 | BOOKTYPE_SPELL? |
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| 15:24.37 | rw3 | Tornhoof: Mmyeah, figures. I was too concentrated on that 'the slot was wrong' so I didn't check what the function accepts. |
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| 15:27.13 | Dhraga | Hmmm why have buggrabber suddelny started to give loads of blocked msgs ? |
| 15:27.45 | Xuerian | icehud iirc |
| 15:27.56 | Xuerian | try updating |
| 15:32.01 | Iceroth | huh? |
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| 15:32.38 | Mikma | Iceroth: http://mikma.reaktio.net/pusu |
| 15:33.06 | Iceroth | now was that a smart thing to do? |
| 15:33.16 | Mikma | dunno, we didn't do it ;) |
| 15:33.33 | fathom | is there a new version of cyArt around anywhere? Sairen's page seems to be down. :( |
| 15:35.40 | Dhraga | Ace2 - v21489 error : http://pastey.net/3816 |
| 15:37.04 | Iceroth | Xuerian, what about icehud? |
| 15:37.14 | vhaarr | Dhraga: Some addon is giving you that error, it's just trapped by AceAddon. |
| 15:37.22 | vhaarr | Dhraga: So that other AceAddons can continue working. |
| 15:37.39 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r21562 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/FuBar_DebuggerFu.lua: FuBar_DebuggerFu : fixed problem with collapsed tree nodes |
| 15:37.42 | Dhraga | okies, so I have to scout out the culprit then =) |
| 15:37.47 | Xuerian | Iceroth: Dhraga said he was getting loads of blocked addons, I thought I saw a changelog for icehud having lots of blocked message problems earlier, so thus I said icehud iirc :p |
| 15:37.54 | vhaarr | Dhraga: RegisterNotesDatabase sounds like Cartographer or similar to me. |
| 15:38.03 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r21563 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/ (FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua FuBar_PotHerbFu.toc readme.txt): FuBar_PotHerbFu : converted to patch 2.0 also minor improvements |
| 15:38.12 | Dhraga | ah thanks, I'll look into it |
| 15:38.26 | Xuerian | Iceroth: But of course at that point he hadn't pastied the error |
| 15:39.27 | Silviu- | haste, around ? |
| 15:39.50 | Dhraga | Xuerian, I'm not using icehud |
| 15:40.06 | snirks | could someone with skillz write a roundup on addons and how to improve performance and which addons are best "performance-wise", and then link to it on some popular site so that it gets spread and I'll eventually find my way to the link? |
| 15:40.08 | Xuerian | Dhraga: There. My point is completely moot :P |
| 15:40.37 | Iceroth | hmm, there's no action blocked problems beyond the dual thing in 2.0 compatible release that i know of :) |
| 15:41.14 | haste | Silviu-: yes |
| 15:42.28 | Dhraga | Thanks for the help, my ace2 error above was from the School addon when selected to add carto notes |
| 15:42.51 | Silviu- | haste how did u skin your damagemetters like so ? ;) |
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| 15:42.59 | Saroz | dafire? |
| 15:43.27 | snirks | is Prat spewing out an error message atm? |
| 15:43.35 | snirks | trying to anchor to itself? |
| 15:44.17 | dafire | Saroz: i attached a german localisation file in forum with escaped umlauts |
| 15:44.23 | Saroz | ty man |
| 15:45.24 | dafire | haste: did you encounter any unforseen problems with oUF ? any new eta ? :) |
| 15:45.26 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r21564 10sRaidFrames/localization.deDE.lua: sRaidFrames: deDE, now with proper escaping |
| 15:45.33 | snirks | "Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:937:FuBarPluginPratFrame:SetPoint():trying to anchor to itself" |
| 15:46.07 | kenlyric|work | snirks, you have to delete your fubar saved variable. |
| 15:46.19 | kenlyric|work | and make sure you remove Prat_Fubar2 addon, if you have it. |
| 15:46.50 | kenlyric|work | though, now prat and fractionsfu are both throwing errors on mouseover. But it doesn't screw up the rest of fubar, at least. |
| 15:47.27 | Funkeh` | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=58796664&sid=1 |
| 15:48.06 | Funkeh` | who uses IE anyway? ;) |
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| 15:48.21 | Iceroth | dual = duel ofc |
| 15:48.35 | haste | dafire: Only frame positioning and target's target left |
| 15:48.54 | sylvanaar | um prat had no errors yesterday |
| 15:49.16 | dafire | haste: cool :) |
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| 15:49.59 | sylvanaar | fubarplugin been changed this am? |
| 15:50.14 | kenlyric|work | fubar plugin integrated sometime last night. |
| 15:50.26 | kenlyric|work | so you don't need prat_fubar2 anymore. |
| 15:50.30 | sylvanaar | no |
| 15:51.05 | Funkeh` | i think he means the library |
| 15:51.10 | sylvanaar | but you can actually run both as long as the separate one has the old name |
| 15:51.15 | haste | dafire: oh, and there are no options |
| 15:51.15 | sylvanaar | new name |
| 15:51.30 | kenlyric|work | oh,t he error I'm getting now? FuBar\FuBar.lua:1367: attempt to index a nil value. |
| 15:51.49 | sylvanaar | the one in prat says "Prat", the old separate one says "Prat_FuBar2" |
| 15:51.57 | kenlyric|work | yeah. |
| 15:52.08 | sylvanaar | but neither should cause errors |
| 15:52.16 | kenlyric|work | but I removed prat_fubar2 last night, and this morning I got that error that snirks describes. |
| 15:52.33 | sylvanaar | did he discribe it? |
| 15:52.43 | sylvanaar | ah i see |
| 15:52.58 | sylvanaar | was working all day yesterday |
| 15:53.12 | dafire | haste: that' |
| 15:53.13 | kenlyric|work | for me too. |
| 15:53.20 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 15:53.33 | dafire | thats ok .. I like default settings .. or enabling it in .lua like the old one in the beginning :9 |
| 15:53.56 | dafire | i just need debuffs on targettarget so i know when to taunt a mob from the other tank ;) |
| 15:54.31 | Saroz | Need example of usage of DebuffIter() |
| 15:54.31 | Saroz | plx |
| 15:55.16 | Saroz | or any Iter |
| 15:56.25 | sylvanaar | what version |
| 15:58.06 | Saroz | nm :p |
| 15:58.49 | vhaarr | Saroz: Detox. |
| 15:59.34 | Saroz | yea, found it |
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| 16:00.07 | Saroz | Not having ShowOnlyDispellable in SEEA2-0 is a problem -.- |
| 16:00.17 | Saroz | (and showOnlyCastable for buffs) |
| 16:00.39 | sylvanaar | who ever is having issues with prat's fubar which is built in = what version of Ace2 are you using - or if you are using embeds, what version of prat |
| 16:02.21 | sylvanaar | oh he was using not even the latest |
| 16:03.39 | haste | dafire: well, it doesn't have any options in the code either yet :) |
| 16:04.34 | sylvanaar | kenlyric|work: yeah, version? |
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| 16:05.04 | dafire | haste: ok ok .. just give us anything to play with ;9 |
| 16:05.08 | kenlyric|work | 21518 |
| 16:05.24 | sylvanaar | standalones or embeds |
| 16:05.34 | kenlyric|work | embeds. |
| 16:05.51 | haste | dafire: or it has one option coded, how many rows the buffs /debuffs should be |
| 16:06.21 | vhaarr | Saroz: Maybe it could be added to the iterator as a toggle, like pets with Roster. |
| 16:06.37 | kenlyric|work | fubar is 21027. |
| 16:06.51 | Saroz | vhaarr, the problem is you dont know which buffs the option applies to, unless you run the functions with the argument |
| 16:07.02 | Saroz | so you basically need 2xUnitDebuff and 2xUnitBuff |
| 16:07.04 | dafire | ah .. this reminds me on something... is it new in the default ui that debuffs change their size on the target frame depending on how many debuffs the target got ? |
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| 16:07.14 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21565 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (LocationFu.lua LocationFuLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 16:07.14 | CIA-17 | FuBar_LocationFu: |
| 16:07.14 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.14 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.14 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.14 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.16 | CIA-17 | 03iceroth * r21566 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: Added a sticky message option for MSTB output |
| 16:07.30 | Baps | sylvanaar: I still have one feature request for you... a means within prat to bind a channel name to a given channel number |
| 16:07.48 | sylvanaar | Baps: thats in there already |
| 16:08.04 | Baps | it is? I looked last night for it and didn't see it |
| 16:08.08 | Baps | what's it called? |
| 16:08.10 | sylvanaar | Baps: channelrenumbering module |
| 16:08.15 | Gngsk | Iceroth, <3 |
| 16:08.29 | Baps | ok. disabled by default? that might be why I missed it |
| 16:08.30 | Iceroth | :) |
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| 16:08.58 | sylvanaar | kenlyric|work: were you using both plugins ? |
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| 16:10.05 | kenlyric|work | I was, but I removed prat_fubar2, and also deleted my fubar.lua file because of the other errror with it trying to anchor itself. |
| 16:10.16 | kenlyric|work | I wonder if maybe I should delete the prat SV too. |
| 16:10.25 | sylvanaar | kenlyric|work: honestly i havent tried embeds, since ace2 got reverted. |
| 16:10.26 | Iceroth | [Ammo], are you around? got a question about ClosetGnome |
| 16:10.37 | kenlyric|work | I don't know what that means :) |
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| 16:10.46 | haarm | didn't vhaarr write closetgnome? ;p |
| 16:10.53 | kenlyric|work | <--- noob. |
| 16:11.01 | vhaarr | Iceroth: Feel free to ask him, but haarm is correct. |
| 16:11.12 | Iceroth | :o |
| 16:11.19 | sylvanaar | kenlyric|work: i run standalones - and im running fine atm |
| 16:11.39 | Sykgaffel | im setting up agUF - but i have a problem |
| 16:11.40 | Sykgaffel | Resting icon needs to get removed from agUF |
| 16:11.45 | VII|Beherit | hi there i got fubar error since last update. so it just hides some of the plugins: |
| 16:11.48 | VII|Beherit | [2006/12/20 17:11:19-267-x1]: FuBar-2.0.20557\FuBar_Panel.lua:937: FuBarPluginPratFrame:SetPoint(): trying to anchor to itselfFuBar-2.0.20557\FuBar_Panel.lua:937: in function `Update'FuBar-2.0.20557\FuBar.lua:1349: in function `Plugin_StopDrag'FuBar-2.0.20557\FuBar.lua:1153: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:1151> --- |
| 16:11.49 | Iceroth | i'm confused, i thought ammo == rabbit |
| 16:11.51 | haarm | I did have a problem with ClosetGnome the other day actually, but I've forgotten it already |
| 16:11.54 | VII|Beherit | thats the errot |
| 16:11.57 | VII|Beherit | ^r |
| 16:11.58 | vhaarr | Iceroth: Ammo = Ammo. |
| 16:12.08 | kenlyric|work | I thought about that, but was told it was unsupported, so I didn't want to go into it yet. |
| 16:12.16 | Iceroth | who's the white bunny then : |
| 16:12.19 | sylvanaar | i hate that error |
| 16:12.22 | vhaarr | Iceroth: I am :) |
| 16:12.25 | dafire | vhaarr: i noticed with closetgnome when changing from my tanking to my damage set i have to select it twice .. on the first one it don't change the shield to the second weapon .. |
| 16:12.26 | VII|Beherit | is it known? |
| 16:12.30 | Iceroth | i'm so confused :) |
| 16:12.32 | haarm | with pink eyes and a fluffy tail |
| 16:12.40 | Iceroth | anyway, CC doesn't swap idols for some reason in combat |
| 16:12.44 | dafire | vhaarr: maybe it's because my tanking weapon goes to my offhand in my damage set |
| 16:12.46 | vhaarr | dafire: yeah, I know, I have to rewrite the equip engine. |
| 16:12.58 | vhaarr | Iceroth: I didn't know that was possible. |
| 16:13.09 | Iceroth | it is |
| 16:13.10 | haarm | can you write it to compare stats so I don't lose so much hps when it changes equips :D |
| 16:13.15 | sylvanaar | VII|Beherit: yeah its known - its happening to alot of fubar plugins today |
| 16:13.20 | vhaarr | haarm: lol, no, never. |
| 16:13.24 | vhaarr | Iceroth: alright |
| 16:13.35 | VII|Beherit | sylvanaar ok thanks just wanted to let you guys know |
| 16:13.36 | haarm | it seems to unequip all the high sta stuff first, then equip all the new high sta stuff last, so I have a huge defecit :( |
| 16:13.40 | Iceroth | eta on fix, 4mins? |
| 16:13.45 | sylvanaar | kenlyric|work: did you drag it off the panel by chance? |
| 16:13.47 | vhaarr | Iceroth: lol |
| 16:13.49 | vhaarr | Iceroth: No :) |
| 16:13.51 | Saroz | vhaarr, didnt you delete BigWigs_AQTimers? |
| 16:13.56 | Iceroth | whoa, only 3mins? |
| 16:14.02 | vhaarr | Saroz: No, I asked the author to delete it. |
| 16:14.11 | vhaarr | Saroz: Why? |
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| 16:14.31 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 16:14.34 | vhaarr | let me delete it now |
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| 16:14.47 | Saroz | :p |
| 16:15.22 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21567 10BigWigs_AQTimers/: BigWigs_AQTimers: Use BigWigs_RespawnTimers or something if you want timers. |
| 16:15.23 | sylvanaar | VII|Beherit: did you drag it off the panel? |
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| 16:16.22 | sylvanaar | i recall having this error once - and it started once i had dragged the plugin off the fubar to put in on the other bar |
| 16:16.30 | BarDwellr | Xuerian_Ctrl .. Xuerian_AltGr .. ? |
| 16:16.31 | sylvanaar | but it was long time ago |
| 16:16.42 | sylvanaar | month at least |
| 16:17.01 | BarDwellr | Xuerian_StillPlayingNWNandNotCheckingInFixors ;-) |
| 16:17.30 | Saroz | Prat autocomplete crashed my wow, sweet |
| 16:17.47 | haarm | Saroz, the coloured tab complete? |
| 16:17.59 | haarm | I had it break my chat frame, but not crash wow :D |
| 16:18.07 | Saroz | ./w f[tab] |
| 16:18.08 | BarDwellr | Saroz: cool.. isolate the bug, and wrap it into code that executes only if the player is ally, paladin, and has just cast his bubble =) |
| 16:18.12 | Elkano | anyone checked FactionsFu, FriensFu or GuildFu since my commit a few hours ago? any problems? |
| 16:18.33 | sylvanaar | Saroz: im just joing to take it out then |
| 16:18.56 | BarDwellr | loladin auto-quit addon =) |
| 16:19.25 | Saroz | sylvanaar, I think it's because there is too many matches |
| 16:19.34 | sylvanaar | yes, that is the issue |
| 16:19.36 | Saroz | ye |
| 16:19.42 | Saroz | maybe add a max limit? |
| 16:19.50 | Xuerian | Dwellr: Implementing that anti-ninjamabobbit |
| 16:19.58 | BarDwellr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.19 | BarDwellr | Xuerian: sorted =) |
| 16:20.19 | Saroz | funny BarDwellr, now shoo |
| 16:20.31 | dafire | i think this won't work as guild leader := |
| 16:20.50 | BarDwellr | can you not /gquit as gl ? |
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| 16:21.02 | dafire | you have to give away leadership first .) |
| 16:21.44 | BarDwellr | how many loladins are likely to be guild leaders tho? |
| 16:21.45 | dafire | does anyone knows how much data you can store in the guild information thingie ? |
| 16:22.08 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21568 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Added debugging to tooltip scanning code, enable debug messages if you're having problems to see what's happening. |
| 16:22.28 | Worf | any TinyTip dev around? |
| 16:23.17 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21569 10XLootGroup/ (XLootGroup.lua localization.enUS.lua): XLootGroup: Added Lock BoP rolls option (Formerly Anti-Ninja mode). Drycode, since my nice little one-man testing raid finally borked. |
| 16:23.20 | Xuerian | blah |
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| 16:23.22 | Xuerian | forgot something |
| 16:23.37 | [Cu]Werik | is there anything similar to CT_Viewport ? |
| 16:23.44 | sylvanaar | Saroz: dont see why AceTab is allowing that |
| 16:24.15 | Saroz | [Cu]Werik, skinner |
| 16:24.21 | [Cu]Werik | thx |
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| 16:25.09 | sylvanaar | for that matter why is AceTab still using OnTab and not Custom_TabComplete? |
| 16:25.19 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21570 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.lua: XLootGroup: Ooops. Forgot to make it set the bind value to the row. |
| 16:25.34 | sylvanaar | ah its not, i see |
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| 16:26.14 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21571 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu: I don't think this repeating updater is needed - if anyone can prove me wrong, let's add it back in. |
| 16:26.14 | Xuerian | BarDwellr: Lacking the frFR translation you had, but pm me them or something and I'll add them. Should work, so long as tooltips don't wig out again (tell me what the debug messages say if they do) |
| 16:27.11 | BarDwellr | um,.. Mode du AntiNinja |
| 16:27.44 | BarDwellr | Desactiver les boutons du (Need & Greed stolen from tool tip above) pour BoP loot. |
| 16:27.48 | CIA-17 | 03duglum * r21572 10ClearFont2/ (ClearFont2.toc libs/): ClearFont2: added AceOO-2.0 to toc and externals, it's needed for AceConsole-2.0 |
| 16:29.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I bow to duglum's better judgement :) |
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| 16:34.10 | vhaarr | Iceroth: Idols are in the ammo slot? |
| 16:35.29 | Xuerian | Is there any specific event that's fired when a party is converted to a raid? Or is it just plain joining a raid? |
| 16:36.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21573 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Only register for the events if we care, that way Banzai can stop running when not needed. |
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| 16:38.35 | dafire | Xuerian: you should get RAID_ROSTER event :) |
| 16:38.51 | Saroz | Xuerian, sadly, either system message or RRU |
| 16:38.52 | Saroz | -.- |
| 16:39.06 | Sykgaffel | still cant find out how to remove the ZZZ icon from agUF :( |
| 16:39.10 | Xuerian | Hm... Wonder which would be cheaper. |
| 16:39.15 | Saroz | system message prob |
| 16:39.20 | [dRaCo] | vhaar: no, Idols, Librams and Totem are equipped as a ranged weapon |
| 16:39.20 | Saroz | RRU fires a lot |
| 16:39.29 | Xuerian | Yep.... probably. Simple text match, no formatting even. |
| 16:39.31 | vhaarr | Xuerian: CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM. |
| 16:39.45 | vhaarr | But it's not sufficient. |
| 16:39.45 | Xuerian | dafire: , Saroz, vhaarr: thanks :p |
| 16:39.54 | vhaarr | Xuerian: What do you want to do? |
| 16:40.05 | Saroz | I tried CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM, seemed unstable |
| 16:40.07 | Saroz | now i use RRU |
| 16:40.10 | kenlyric|work | damn... same error again. FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:937:FuBarPluginPratFrame:SetPont(): trying to anchor to itself. |
| 16:40.22 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21574 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: No more spam on tab complete! |
| 16:40.22 | Xuerian | Optional "Automatically enable ML on raid group creation" |
| 16:40.24 | Saroz | but I need to check when a raid is formed, so dunno |
| 16:40.36 | Xuerian | Seeing if it's worth bothering with |
| 16:40.43 | vhaarr | Xuerian: CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM should be enough then. |
| 16:40.56 | Saroz | Xuerian, you could hook RRU with a bucket event, and unregister it once you detect a raid is formed |
| 16:41.00 | vhaarr | nah |
| 16:41.19 | Xuerian | Not worth it, just want it on when someone see's that "You've joined a boring group" :P |
| 16:41.20 | sylvanaar | You can use rosterlib |
| 16:41.21 | vhaarr | CMS is better, the only problem with it is that it doesn't fire after a reloadui if you're in a raid. |
| 16:41.24 | Saroz | yea indeed Xuerian |
| 16:41.25 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: No, you can't. |
| 16:41.27 | sylvanaar | why |
| 16:41.28 | Saroz | sylvanaar, same thing |
| 16:41.28 | [dRaCo] | Hey Saroz, I'm once again having problems with sRaidFrames not updating... any helpful information I can provide? |
| 16:41.44 | Xuerian | sylvanaar: I don't wanna include anything else, hehh |
| 16:41.53 | Saroz | [dRaCo], dunno works like a charm here |
| 16:42.06 | sylvanaar | wait for the first raid_roster_update |
| 16:42.16 | kenlyric|work | sylvanaar: Ok, I got that error I just posted above. Then I moved Prat on my fubar. Fubar restored the proper placing of mods, and now I get that Fubar.lua:1367 attempt to index a nil value error. |
| 16:42.19 | Saroz | yea, one option |
| 16:42.32 | Saroz | CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM should be better, but seems a bit.. unstable |
| 16:42.45 | Saroz | I tried it and it didn't work all the time, didnt look that much into it though |
| 16:43.30 | Xuerian | I could care less if it works 100%, I'm just filling a request that's been made a few times by lazy sobs :p |
| 16:43.48 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21575 10FuBar/FuBar_Panel.lua: FuBar: Attempt to fix the problem with setting the plugin parent to its own frame. |
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| 16:45.11 | kenlyric|work | hmmm. |
| 16:45.18 | kenlyric|work | might have to wait for that one :) |
| 16:48.09 | Saroz | sooo |
| 16:48.12 | Saroz | this clearfont2 |
| 16:48.15 | Saroz | is it usable? |
| 16:48.26 | Silviu- | Saroz yes |
| 16:48.27 | Silviu- | :) |
| 16:48.28 | fathom | yes and it's awesome |
| 16:48.33 | Saroz | mmmkay |
| 16:48.34 | sylvanaar | im not sure what makes CMS better - but its prolly a matter of opinion |
| 16:48.49 | waffle | hey kirk |
| 16:48.51 | Saroz | need calibri_v1 though |
| 16:48.59 | waffle | I deleted my CF2 folders and lua from savedfiles |
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| 16:49.09 | waffle | that fixed the chat window problem |
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| 16:49.37 | fathom | Saroz, http://www.wowace.com/files/ClearFont2_FontPack_1/ClearFont2_FontPack_1-r21424.zip <-- is it not in that? |
| 16:49.39 | waffle | I still can't change the fonts of the nameplates, but that's not a big deal to me |
| 16:49.44 | sylvanaar | cf2 is like visual crack |
| 16:49.52 | Saroz | no idea |
| 16:49.54 | waffle | Calibri v1 should be in the CF2 folder |
| 16:49.57 | fathom | it's in my list of fonts |
| 16:49.58 | Saroz | sweet |
| 16:50.00 | Saroz | getting it then |
| 16:50.01 | waffle | sylvanaar: it is |
| 16:51.47 | sylvanaar | Saroz: plz try Prat autocomplete fix |
| 16:51.52 | Saroz | kk |
| 16:52.27 | Kemayo | waffle: It should be possible to change the nameplate font. |
| 16:52.43 | Kemayo | I mean, theoretically. |
| 16:52.45 | Silviu- | ClearFont2 already has Calibri |
| 16:53.01 | sylvanaar | kenlyric|work: it will get fixed - its not a prat bug imo |
| 16:53.42 | kenlyric|work | yeah, I just saw the checkin to fubar that is an attempt to fix it. |
| 16:53.47 | BarDwellr | Xuerian: have you tested the new self:msg(line) stuff u've added to ItemBindType ? |
| 16:53.56 | waffle | are others able to change the nameplate font w/ CF? |
| 16:54.05 | Xuerian | BarDwellr: Throwing a error? |
| 16:54.19 | Kemayo | I'm fairly sure that CF doesn't implement it. I'm just saying it's probably doable. :) |
| 16:54.21 | BarDwellr | Xuerian: as I seem to remember when I tried that I got a big red error dialog telling me I'd attempted to dump a table value or something (cant test now.. no wow here) |
| 16:54.57 | Xuerian | BarDwellr: I used to add a message to the default chat frame. I just changed it to use self:Print() which handles table values |
| 16:54.57 | Sykgaffel | cyCircled isnt making my bartender3 petbar round |
| 16:54.59 | Xuerian | or should |
| 16:55.57 | fathom | Sykgaffel, it doesn't mine either, but it also lets the borders of whatever "theme" bt3 had on it show through the back as well. so like dreamlayout is showing behind cycircled. |
| 16:56.13 | Saroz | hrrm |
| 16:56.18 | Saroz | CF2 doesnt apply to chat frames |
| 16:56.30 | Sykgaffel | i fixed the showing behind part fathom |
| 16:56.40 | Sykgaffel | you have to change the Defaults.lua file |
| 16:56.51 | Sykgaffel | change everything to defualt instead of dreamlayout |
| 16:57.23 | waffle | Saroz: i had the same problem |
| 16:57.28 | Kemayo | waffle: Actually, looking at the code, it seems to at least imply that it's styling the nameplates. |
| 16:57.42 | waffle | Saroz: i deleted my CF2 files, reinsstalled, and went into WTF, and delted ClearFont2.lua from savedfiles |
| 16:57.47 | waffle | fixed it right up |
| 16:58.10 | Saroz | od |
| 16:58.12 | Saroz | d |
| 16:58.33 | Kirkburn|afk | waffle, that sounds like a good idea |
| 16:58.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21576 10BanzaiLib/Banzai-1.1/Banzai-1.1.lua: .Banzai-1.1: Access the oldBanzai table by name, in case the raid shuffles. |
| 16:58.44 | waffle | Kirkburn|afk: is CF2 supposed to style nameplates? |
| 16:58.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, it should work for nameplates |
| 16:58.59 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
| 16:59.02 | Kirkburn|afk | (I think) |
| 16:59.09 | waffle | ok. well, i still can't get nameplates to change |
| 16:59.13 | Saroz | I dont see why i need to delete a fresh savedvar file though |
| 16:59.14 | Saroz | seems odd |
| 16:59.38 | sylvanaar | Saroz: have you tried the buttons option to show the chat buttons on the chat frame? |
| 16:59.43 | sylvanaar | or anyone for that matter |
| 16:59.47 | Saroz | yea |
| 16:59.49 | Saroz | worked fine |
| 16:59.57 | Kirkburn|afk | I will look later ... currently I don't have the beta installed, I just have a mirror of it on my external hard drive |
| 17:00.10 | sylvanaar | yeah it works, just wondering how you think it looks |
| 17:00.16 | Kirkburn|afk | My 'beta' PC is quite a distance from me =) |
| 17:00.28 | Saroz | sylvanaar, the tab thing works now |
| 17:00.34 | Saroz | very very nice |
| 17:00.41 | Groll | hmm anyonw having problems with gmail? |
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| 17:02.22 | Groll | i only get it to open a few mails and then it halts |
| 17:03.26 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21577 10aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.lua: aUF_Banzai: Can be enabled/disabled with aUFBanzai:Enable()/Disable(). |
| 17:03.29 | Saroz | lol, FuBar.kya, nill error |
| 17:03.29 | Saroz | wtf |
| 17:03.34 | snirks | kenlyric|work: thanks |
| 17:03.58 | snirks | IFrameManager, can anyone tell me which addons are using this? (if its not too many) |
| 17:04.08 | snirks | I disabled it, but no other addons complained about missing dependencies |
| 17:04.15 | snirks | so im kinda thinking i dont need it |
| 17:04.43 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21578 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Control aUF_Banzai if available. |
| 17:06.55 | Saroz | someone fucked up fubar |
| 17:07.17 | Kirkburn|afk | waffle, for now use the "Step Two" thing? |
| 17:08.08 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21579 10/tags/Visor/: Created folder remotely |
| 17:08.33 | snirks | Saroz: sec let me find something for you |
| 17:08.52 | snirks | 18:02 < kenlyric|work> snirks, you have to delete your fubar saved variable. |
| 17:08.52 | snirks | 18:02 < kenlyric|work> and make sure you remove Prat_Fubar2 addon, if you have it. |
| 17:08.59 | Saroz | ohhh |
| 17:09.04 | vhaarr | Saroz: probably me, give me an error. |
| 17:09.14 | Saroz | Removing fubar2 |
| 17:09.17 | Saroz | wait wait |
| 17:09.33 | Saroz | ok |
| 17:09.46 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 071.12 * r21580 10Visor/: Created folder remotely |
| 17:09.56 | vhaarr | No, no, you shouldn't have to remove the saved variable, FuBar should handle it. |
| 17:09.59 | vhaarr | Give me the error. |
| 17:09.59 | Saroz | Fubar_Panel 940, PratFrame:SetPoint is dependant etc etc |
| 17:10.19 | Saroz | dont have an error handler mod -.- |
| 17:10.27 | rw3 | Anyone know if there is any buffs that the blizzard API doesn't handle well regarding spelldamage, crit etc |
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| 17:10.43 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 071.12 * r21581 10Visor/Visor/: tagged: Visor |
| 17:11.25 | Saroz | vhaarr, removing prat_fubar2 worked |
| 17:11.35 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 071.12 * r21582 10Visor/VisorButtons/: tagged: VisorButtons |
| 17:11.38 | vhaarr | okay |
| 17:11.56 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r21583 10Prat/modules/Buttons.lua: Prat: Allow setting button alpha |
| 17:12.10 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 071.12 * r21584 10Visor/VisorEditBox/: tagged: VisorEditBox |
| 17:12.41 | snurre- | whoever designed ungoro was a fucking retard,... not only is there just one single graveyard in the entire zone, but it's located on the edge, far away from the areas you always get ganked in |
| 17:12.48 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 071.12 * r21585 10Visor/VisorGUI/: VisorGUI: tagged |
| 17:12.58 | snirks | but does anyone know why i have IFrameManager? And why no addons complain about it being disabled? |
| 17:13.02 | sylvanaar | snurre-: been to RFD? |
| 17:13.31 | sylvanaar | snirks: or RFK |
| 17:13.49 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21586 10Visor/: Removed file/folder |
| 17:13.53 | snurre- | thats shorter |
| 17:13.56 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21587 10VisorButtons/: Removed file/folder |
| 17:14.04 | sylvanaar | snirks: no way |
| 17:14.05 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21588 10VisorEditBox/: Removed file/folder |
| 17:14.06 | snurre- | and you dont get chainganked |
| 17:14.15 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21589 10VisorGUI/: Removed file/folder |
| 17:14.37 | sylvanaar | snurre-: heh - rogues all over ungoro |
| 17:15.22 | snurre- | 3x 60 rogues vs 1x 52 warlock *sigh* |
| 17:15.43 | Groll | Kirkburn|afk does one need to keep the old fonts folders in the wow dir? |
| 17:15.45 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 07branches * r21590 10Visor/: Created folder remotely |
| 17:16.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Groll, you can still do that, it's an neccessary as it ever was (i.e. not particularly, but it can help) |
| 17:16.25 | sylvanaar | snurre-: yeah, i know - warlocks have been complaining about that since i can remember |
| 17:16.28 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 07branches * r21591 10Visor/Visor/: Copied remotely |
| 17:16.40 | Kirkburn|afk | *as neccessary |
| 17:16.45 | Burton | anyone having bongos actionbars modifier:shift problem? |
| 17:16.50 | Kirkburn|afk | I probably still spelt necessary wrong :P |
| 17:16.54 | Groll | Kirkburn|afk okies |
| 17:17.02 | Groll | i'll keep it then :D |
| 17:17.07 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 17:17.13 | sylvanaar | snurre-: rogues have always been overpowered |
| 17:17.17 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude 07branches * r21592 10Visor/VisorButtons/: Copied remotely |
| 17:17.41 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21593 10/branches/Visor/: Removed file/folder |
| 17:17.46 | SoLoR | Groll it helps with addons that are forcing default fonts (ag_uf, sct....) |
| 17:17.50 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r21594 10/branches/VisorButtons/: Removed file/folder |
| 17:17.52 | Groll | ah ok |
| 17:17.52 | snurre- | not about being overpowered or not.. it's the fact that 3 60s have nothing better to do than corpsecamp a 52 who's only trying to do some quests in peace |
| 17:18.09 | Groll | roll a pve server |
| 17:18.10 | Groll | :D |
| 17:18.14 | Saroz | yea |
| 17:18.16 | snurre- | a bit late now |
| 17:18.17 | snirks | sylvanaar: i had nothing to do with RFD |
| 17:18.20 | Groll | hehe |
| 17:18.36 | Groll | or get ur friends to come help ya and then corpsecamp them |
| 17:18.57 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21595 10aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.lua: aUF_Banzai: Specifically unregister for the banzai events, since it seems UnregisterAllEvents doesn't trigger the correct events to disable Banzai-1.1. |
| 17:19.06 | snurre- | theyre all busy BG'ing |
| 17:19.18 | haste | So much spam |
| 17:19.45 | Baps | I recently got my warrior up to 60 and went to WSG.. that was a bad idea |
| 17:20.07 | Kirkburn|afk | SoLoR, perfect explanation :) |
| 17:20.12 | kenlyric|work | Baps... lol... find a priest :) |
| 17:20.26 | Baps | three premades that were sooo much better geared that moonfires were doing 800+ a tick, 8000 point warlock firebolts, etc |
| 17:20.32 | SoLoR | Kirkburn|afk well i just lost nerves today so i made it ;) so thing is still clear in my memory ;) |
| 17:20.40 | Baps | they farmed us for honor for about 5 minutes |
| 17:20.42 | Baps | it was pathetic |
| 17:20.53 | sylvanaar | snirks: yes but tab complete on my irc client isnt very smart |
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| 17:25.08 | DrZoot | hrmm, im using AceOO, ive declared a var like this Bar.prototype.color = {min = {r=1,g=1,b=1}, max = {r=1,g=1,b=1}} but for some reason, if i change the values in min/max for one of the instances of my object it changes them all |
| 17:25.12 | DrZoot | any ideas? |
| 17:25.44 | kergoth | of course it does. |
| 17:25.46 | kergoth | a = {} |
| 17:25.48 | kergoth | b = a |
| 17:25.52 | kergoth | b.a = true |
| 17:25.55 | kergoth | a.a is now true |
| 17:26.21 | DrZoot | ok ... you lost me :( |
| 17:26.26 | vhaarr | You're declaring it on the prototype. |
| 17:26.45 | kergoth | every instance of the object has a .color element which is the same table. |
| 17:27.08 | kergoth | if you want them all to hae their own, define it in the constructor |
| 17:27.32 | DrZoot | ahh, ok. i followed that, cheers |
| 17:27.38 | sylvanaar | thats one of the odd things about lua |
| 17:27.43 | kergoth | it isnt odd |
| 17:27.48 | kergoth | many languages work by reference |
| 17:27.53 | sylvanaar | its just not obvious |
| 17:28.03 | kergoth | depends on your assumptions about behavior |
| 17:28.10 | DrZoot | it was throwing me off becuase Bar.prototype.mincolor = {r=1,g=1,b=1} works as i expected |
| 17:28.11 | sylvanaar | OO assumptions |
| 17:28.47 | Groll | ok gmail is fubared |
| 17:28.49 | Groll | :( |
| 17:28.51 | kergoth | DrZoot: because you arent changing r, g, or b in that table. if you did, itd affect all the objects. |
| 17:29.03 | sylvanaar | because the table is unqualified it makes it confusing |
| 17:29.47 | sylvanaar | that unnamed table is actually the same as a static member variable of a class |
| 17:30.24 | kergoth | indeed. you assumed it wasnt static. i fail to see how your assumptions causing confusion is an issue with lua or the system |
| 17:32.00 | kergoth | meh, need caffeine |
| 17:32.01 | DrZoot | hangon, Bar.prototype.mincolor = {r=0,g=1,b=0}, gives each instance its own copy of the table, i can change r,g and b independantly |
| 17:32.02 | Groll | hmm ok it aint gmail hmm it's somethign else hmm |
| 17:32.10 | kergoth | DrZoot: it does not. |
| 17:32.40 | DrZoot | well then something very odd is going on because it does on my client |
| 17:33.04 | kergoth | no, it does not. if its behaving differently, its something else you're doing in your code thats deceiving you about that. |
| 17:33.11 | sylvanaar | kergoth: its just quirky coming from other languages - name another language which allows unnamed/unqualified static tables inside class definitions |
| 17:33.40 | kergoth | name another language where you have to implement OO yourself, so its impossible to define new qualifiers to describe behavior |
| 17:33.45 | sylvanaar | C |
| 17:33.58 | DrZoot | i think its AceOO, if I dump the object before changing it it dumps minus the mincolor sub table, if i dump after changing it the object now has a mincolor sub table |
| 17:34.04 | kergoth | right, so go bitch about C and leave me alone. |
| 17:34.09 | Tem | DrZoot, I verymuch doubt that |
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| 17:34.47 | Tem | kergoth, you gotta admit that implementing OO yourself in lua was hella fun |
| 17:34.51 | sylvanaar | kergoth: i wasnt bitching - just said it was odd |
| 17:35.01 | Tem | where it would have been a NIGHTMARE in C |
| 17:35.06 | DrZoot | meh I think it would be a very safe assumption to say that Im doing something odd/wrong/stupid so ill work it out |
| 17:35.18 | Tem | DrZoot, in this case, no |
| 17:35.25 | Tem | that's not a safe assumption |
| 17:36.45 | kergoth | yeah, i've seen object models implemented in C, mainly glib and the sort of oo that raster uses in the EFL. ends up pretty ugly under the hood |
| 17:39.00 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21596 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 17:39.00 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:39.00 | CIA-17 | -Added DE "Blessed Resilience" and "Nether Protection" (Dragooner) |
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| 17:39.03 | kergoth | sylvanaar: imo, it isnt confusing. in C++ it wouldnt have allowed you to assign anything into the variable in the class definition at all if it was unqualified. the fact that you can here makes it pretty obvious that the implications may be something other than you expect |
| 17:40.59 | sylvanaar | yeah - but then theres java and C# |
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| 17:42.37 | kergoth | so if you're confused, it isnt due to OO based assumptions, its based on the language you're familiar with, no? |
| 17:42.59 | Silviu- | Xuerian |
| 17:43.18 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21597 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Refresh the dewdrop when deleting a set. |
| 17:45.23 | DrZoot | I learnt programming with java, i kinda wish i hadnt of now |
| 17:45.25 | sylvanaar | hard to say, i suppose, its why i asked if there was another language that did something similar |
| 17:47.54 | BarDwellr | hmm.. well.. you can get close with eiffel, or smalltalk |
| 17:48.33 | BarDwellr | both of those allow dynamic class declaration & modification at runtime |
| 17:49.07 | kergoth | besides, if you have a solid understanding of lua before using aceoo, again there's no confusion. you're creating teh table with {} at prototype creation time, not at object creation time. its obvious that it would be shared amongst the objects. if the code copied everything from proto to object under the hood, then you'd lose the ability to share data amongst the instances outside of the class, which would break numerous use cases |
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| 17:51.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 17:52.02 | sylvanaar | you installed it last |
| 17:52.04 | kergoth | there's a registry entry that wow creates when you run it with the location, perhaps it checked that |
| 17:52.17 | Kirkburn|afk | I see |
| 17:52.22 | sylvanaar | im guessing |
| 17:52.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Was just surprised, cos I've only run it from that location once, just now :P |
| 17:52.35 | sylvanaar | you can make the setting within WAU though |
| 17:55.01 | PProvost | Hey guys, how goes it today? |
| 17:55.38 | kergoth | Kirkburn|afk: each time you run wow, it checks for the registry entry and adds it if it doesnt exit |
| 17:55.41 | kergoth | exist, too |
| 17:55.56 | Kirkburn|afk | I guess that's about the only registry entry WoW has? |
| 17:56.01 | PProvost | Since I've mostly been focusing on WAU and on leveling my main lately, I kinda fell behind on the API changes, so I have a question that I suspect is easy... |
| 17:56.05 | sylvanaar | maybe its the lack of strong typing |
| 17:56.07 | snirks | Is there a viable alternative to bigwigs? Or is bigwigs the "fastest" mod of that kind? |
| 17:56.10 | kergoth | i think theres an uninstallation entry from the installer too, but not sure |
| 17:56.15 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21598 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone: Cleanup. |
| 17:56.17 | PProvost | How do I use my hearthstone from code? CastSpellByName is gone, right? |
| 17:56.33 | sylvanaar | snirks: why do we need alternative |
| 17:56.39 | CIA-17 | 03ricowan * r21599 10RicoMiniMap/ (5 files): |
| 17:56.39 | CIA-17 | RicoMiniMap: |
| 17:56.39 | CIA-17 | - Added option for moving the coordinates text, and added a frame background to the coordinate text for when it's outside the minimap. |
| 17:56.39 | kergoth | PProvost: you don't, unless you have a secure button the user can click on to do it, afaik |
| 17:57.05 | PProvost | Really? Even Out of combat? |
| 17:57.10 | snirks | sylvanaar: im just working on optimizing performance, and i wondered if there was a better alternative resourcewise |
| 17:57.31 | axxo | there are others, wouldn't call em better tho |
| 17:57.40 | kergoth | could be wrong *shrug* |
| 17:57.49 | PProvost | Bummer... |
| 17:57.55 | DrZoot | snirks: it sounds kinda like you need a new computer if you are this focused on squeezing every drop of performance you can |
| 17:57.57 | snirks | axxo: ok, thanks |
| 17:57.58 | sylvanaar | snirks: 8 bit cpu? srsly bigwigs doesnt do anything much that you could call resource intensive |
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| 17:58.17 | snirks | ok |
| 17:58.32 | snirks | no need to get hostile, i simply have time during xmas to nitpick |
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| 17:58.34 | DrZoot | A healer in my guild has his mod memmory allocation set at 512, and he uses most of it |
| 17:58.44 | waffle | lol |
| 17:58.45 | vhaarr | He's insane. |
| 17:58.46 | axxo | gkick |
| 17:58.48 | kergoth | what has you looking at bigwigs as the cause of your performance issues? have you used teksupport or something to isolate? |
| 17:58.52 | kergoth | or are you just guessing? |
| 17:58.52 | snirks | i use <25 MiB |
| 17:58.54 | snirks | is that ok? |
| 17:58.58 | kergoth | DrZoot: ack |
| 17:59.00 | vhaarr | snirks: yeah, that's fine. |
| 17:59.01 | snirks | i was aiming for 20 |
| 17:59.05 | axxo | i used 40ish |
| 17:59.07 | PProvost | You are fine snirks |
| 17:59.07 | snirks | but hard |
| 17:59.16 | PProvost | I'm between 20-40 depending on situation |
| 17:59.18 | sylvanaar | snirks: dont mess with kergoth today |
| 17:59.41 | snirks | kergoth: i was just guessing, i come in peace |
| 17:59.45 | Kirkburn|afk | DrZoot, please be joking |
| 17:59.47 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r21600 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone: Properly update when sets are deleted. |
| 17:59.48 | snirks | kergoth: are you the dev? |
| 17:59.49 | axxo | mod memory should be set on 0 anyway :) |
| 18:00.02 | DrZoot | Kirkburn|afk: sorry, cant say that I am |
| 18:00.05 | Kirkburn|afk | axxo, are you mad? \o/ |
| 18:00.08 | waffle | i can't even imagine using 512? |
| 18:00.14 | axxo | Kirkburn|afk: no, try i |
| 18:00.46 | Kirkburn|afk | How is that possible! |
| 18:00.46 | kergoth | snirks: no |
| 18:00.47 | PProvost | I have mine set to 128, but I never use that much. |
| 18:00.47 | snirks | download curse-gaming.com, put it in your addons folder |
| 18:00.47 | kergoth | ~kergoth |
| 18:00.52 | purl | you are probably Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for CSC, Inc. in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. Email at clarson@kergoth.com. |
| 18:00.52 | Soulless | ok, who can tell me why this function sucks, and do it seminicely (without laughing much) http://ace.pastey.net/3823 |
| 18:00.52 | PProvost | That is just left over from when I ran a lot of bad addons. :) |
| 18:00.52 | Kirkburn|afk | axxo, but if I had a leak, I'd eventually run out of space |
| 18:00.55 | DrZoot | I quote "ive got 2g of memmory so I dont see the problem with mods using 512, its not like thats going to make a difference to WoW anyways" |
| 18:01.23 | kergoth | Soulless: local frame = getglobal("framez"..i) |
| 18:01.30 | sylvanaar | if you set it high it raises the gc threshold |
| 18:01.41 | Soulless | i tried that and it still throws that error,hmm, lemmie check again |
| 18:01.42 | vhaarr | GC threshold? |
| 18:01.52 | Kirkburn|afk | It means it'll never GC |
| 18:01.57 | DrZoot | i aim for about 30 and usually hover between 25 - 40m used |
| 18:01.59 | snirks | if something is LoD, why does it produce alot of garbage when logging into world? |
| 18:02.04 | snirks | yes, i have been using !!warmup |
| 18:02.04 | vhaarr | There's no threshold now, it's incremental? |
| 18:02.15 | snirks | and bigwigs happened to produce alot of garbage |
| 18:02.16 | vhaarr | snirks: Because of all the localizations it spits out. |
| 18:02.18 | kergoth | it isnta threshold anymore, but there are factors affeecting the incremental gc that it could be changing to make it more or less aggressive |
| 18:02.41 | Kirkburn|afk | I think if you make it unlimited it'll probably just never bother GCing |
| 18:02.43 | PProvost | So what setting do you guys use for mem alloc? |
| 18:02.48 | Kirkburn|afk | 30 |
| 18:02.54 | vhaarr | snirks: It sees you don't need frFR, deDE, koKR, zhTW, esES and that last locale, so it dumps all that data. |
| 18:03.01 | DrZoot | whats the default? 32? |
| 18:03.02 | Soulless | kergoth: i still get an attempt to concatenate global 'framez' |
| 18:03.11 | sylvanaar | why would it gc at all if memory was infinite |
| 18:03.16 | Kirkburn|afk | PProvost, but that's because I know my usage starts at 20 |
| 18:03.16 | sylvanaar | what would be the point |
| 18:03.17 | kergoth | then you didnt look at the line i gave you closely enough |
| 18:03.21 | kergoth | i said "framez"..i |
| 18:03.23 | kergoth | not framez..i |
| 18:03.28 | snirks | vhaarr: possible to remove those dir without bugging stuff? |
| 18:03.33 | snirks | vhaarr: dirs* |
| 18:03.33 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: The GC is incremental. |
| 18:03.45 | vhaarr | snirks: They're not directories, the locales are embedded in the individual bossmods. |
| 18:03.50 | snirks | vhaarr: ok |
| 18:03.54 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: i understand - perhaps its just the term i used |
| 18:03.54 | Kirkburn|afk | vhaarr, kergoth just gave a good retort to that |
| 18:04.04 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: To what? |
| 18:04.07 | Kirkburn|afk | " there are factors affeecting the incremental gc that it could be changing to make it more or less aggressive" |
| 18:04.18 | vhaarr | snirks: If you run the LoD BAT file, that helps. |
| 18:04.23 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: Yes, and? |
| 18:04.24 | kergoth | afaik you cant retrieve those current factors though, so we couldnt find out directly |
| 18:04.27 | kergoth | only via watching behavior |
| 18:04.32 | kergoth | it will still be gc'ing, just less aggressively |
| 18:04.45 | snirks | vhaarr: can you tell me what that batfile just did? |
| 18:04.48 | kergoth | mine is set to unlimited |
| 18:04.50 | snirks | vhaarr: i simply want to learn |
| 18:04.52 | Soulless | kergoth: ty :) |
| 18:04.56 | kergoth | and my ram usage goes from 28 megs at login to 78 in a 5 man |
| 18:05.02 | kergoth | so methinks its wayyy unaggressive |
| 18:05.07 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:05.09 | Kirkburn|afk | yeah, so effectively not at all :P |
| 18:05.14 | sylvanaar | yeah, no designer would want gc's to occur when there was alot of free memory |
| 18:05.25 | vhaarr | snirks: It moved all the zones bigwigs have bossmods for to their own addons, which means you won't load those bossmods until you enter that zone. |
| 18:05.33 | vhaarr | snirks: So when you enter MC, it loads the MC bossmods. |
| 18:05.39 | snirks | ok |
| 18:05.45 | kergoth | snirks: bigwigs itself is not LoD |
| 18:05.45 | snirks | how often should this bat be run manually? |
| 18:05.50 | sylvanaar | unless the gc was benificial in some other respect |
| 18:05.55 | snirks | batfile |
| 18:05.56 | vhaarr | snirks: Every time you update. |
| 18:06.09 | snirks | vhaarr: ok thanks |
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| 18:06.25 | vhaarr | snirks: But it's not really necessary, it's just static memory consumption. |
| 18:06.35 | DrZoot|Zzzzz | nite all |
| 18:06.49 | vhaarr | snirks: There should be no performance impact of having it all loaded at once like you used to. |
| 18:06.52 | kergoth | yea, people put too much emphasis on the static ram usage |
| 18:06.58 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 18:07.00 | kergoth | its the continual leaking that sucks |
| 18:07.41 | snirks | the fact that im thinking about this shows that i care tho |
| 18:08.01 | vhaarr | I'm constant at 0.2 increase when I'm miles from the nearest player with no chat or combat log activity and no mouse movement. |
| 18:08.03 | vhaarr | >< |
| 18:08.24 | Kirkburn|afk | 0.2 KB? |
| 18:08.32 | sylvanaar | set your scripte memory to 48MB and run |
| 18:08.32 | vhaarr | yes |
| 18:08.37 | Kirkburn|afk | That's nothing! |
| 18:08.47 | Kirkburn|afk | I got about 10-20 recently :P |
| 18:08.59 | vhaarr | Well, in combat I get that as well. |
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| 18:09.09 | kergoth | i've seen 200 recently |
| 18:09.09 | vhaarr | But with absolutely no activity, I get 0.2. |
| 18:09.10 | kergoth | need to fire up teksupport |
| 18:09.12 | vhaarr | ouch |
| 18:09.14 | kergoth | 200 in combat is bad |
| 18:09.16 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:09.16 | Kirkburn|afk | vhaarr, 0.2 from monitoring stuff possibly? |
| 18:09.22 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: Monitoring what? |
| 18:09.27 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: It's from OnUpdates. |
| 18:09.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Dunno. Stuff =) |
| 18:09.39 | vhaarr | There's *nothing* happening and I get 0.2. |
| 18:09.44 | vhaarr | There's nothing to monitor. |
| 18:09.45 | kergoth | i love ck's change to bugsack to show revisions |
| 18:09.53 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 18:10.02 | vhaarr | I think the revisions need coloring though ;) |
| 18:10.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Well _something_ must be happening ;) |
| 18:10.10 | sylvanaar | now just need - logsack |
| 18:10.13 | kergoth | vhaarr: yeah thatd be nice |
| 18:10.13 | Zodiac | does anyone know a working Windfury addon for 2.0? |
| 18:10.14 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: No. OnUpdates happen. |
| 18:10.17 | kergoth | maybe a yellow or something |
| 18:10.29 | vhaarr | I'll look at that later if noone else does. |
| 18:10.47 | Kirkburn|afk | vhaarr, okay, but then how can you be getting 0.2 if nothing is happening. Surely the two things are mutually exclusive |
| 18:10.56 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: OnUpdates. |
| 18:11.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Stop saying that at me :( |
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| 18:11.15 | sylvanaar | onupdates are always happening so you can see the 0.2 |
| 18:11.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Haha!? |
| 18:11.32 | kergoth | you'd think the onupdates being executed wouldnt be doing anything, so wouldnt allocate any ram, but what the hell |
| 18:11.47 | vhaarr | indeed, but some of them must be allocating something. |
| 18:12.07 | Kirkburn|afk | The mere act of monitoring it with PerformanceFu perhaps? |
| 18:12.15 | vhaarr | Kirkburn|afk: For example. |
| 18:12.25 | PProvost | Can I call a slash command from the new API? |
| 18:12.45 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm going to watch Hogfather and actually be true to my afk tag now :P |
| 18:12.55 | vhaarr | yeah, dinner time, afk as well |
| 18:13.05 | sylvanaar | PProvost: yeah, but theres no real reason to |
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| 18:13.33 | PProvost | Just trying to figure out how to do /use hearthstone from code. :) |
| 18:13.37 | sylvanaar | plus - you will get blocked trying to call a secure one |
| 18:13.50 | kergoth | /media/crydee/f/Games/tbc/Interface/AddOns$ /bin/ls -p|grep /|grep -Ev 'Blizzard_'|wc -l |
| 18:13.53 | kergoth | 246 |
| 18:13.56 | kergoth | ow |
| 18:13.56 | kergoth | i need to go through my set again |
| 18:14.41 | sylvanaar | PProvost: you must press a key to initiate htat |
| 18:14.43 | PProvost | Hey kergoth, you posted a URL to your addons list the other day but it didn't work. Got that handy again? |
| 18:15.02 | PProvost | sylvanaar, okay thanks. |
| 18:15.10 | CIA-17 | 03iceroth * r21601 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc modules/PlayerMana.lua modules/TargetInfo.lua): IceHUD: Version "Whiny rogues who file feature requests as bugs" |
| 18:15.43 | kenlyric|work | heh |
| 18:15.45 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 18:15.53 | kergoth | PProvost: http://covenant.kergoth.com/svn/kergwow/trunk/AddOns is the svn link, you can browse it with your browser |
| 18:16.57 | Necra | damn, this Bongos is giving a lot of errors |
| 18:17.01 | sylvanaar | the majority of users you hear from aren't fun to deal with - nature of the beast i guess |
| 18:17.06 | Necra | how good is bartender these days? |
| 18:17.13 | kergoth | kicks ass |
| 18:17.16 | sylvanaar | ~bugz |
| 18:17.20 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, bugz is "Does this happen on the lastest version? What version are you using?" |
| 18:17.29 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 18:17.29 | purl | :), kergoth |
| 18:17.56 | sylvanaar | purl: double espresso this morning? |
| 18:18.10 | Necrathex | does bartender allow to move castbar etc? |
| 18:18.18 | Necrathex | meh, i'll just try it myself |
| 18:18.20 | kenlyric|work | bartender is very good if you need something simple and efficient, like I do. |
| 18:18.29 | kergoth | bartender is a bar addon, i dont see why it would screw with the casting bar |
| 18:18.34 | kergoth | if it did, i'd remove that code locally |
| 18:18.40 | kergoth | but *shrug* |
| 18:18.42 | kergoth | maybe it does |
| 18:18.47 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:18.49 | Necrathex | because bars will be placed on top of it? |
| 18:19.05 | kergoth | you could put an actionbar on top of your player frame too |
| 18:19.14 | kergoth | does that mean bartender3 should have unitframe moving? |
| 18:19.23 | kergoth | users never seem to have a grasp of scope. |
| 18:19.31 | Necrathex | ... |
| 18:20.03 | Necrathex | are you still unable to disable the cooldown counters? |
| 18:20.12 | kenlyric|work | I have a friend who can't use bartender because it's limited to 10 bars. He uses a lot of single buttons floating all around the screen. |
| 18:20.22 | snirks | flexbar2 |
| 18:20.38 | axxo | kenlyric|work: and thats a bad thing because? |
| 18:20.47 | kenlyric|work | yeah, he was using DAB, but that's broken, and he can't get stance changes on his warrior to work in bongos. |
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| 18:22.49 | Necrathex | so, talking about scope, bartender has cooldown counters built-in and you can't disable them |
| 18:22.51 | KarlThePagan | i can tell by the attention paid to the priest DPS T5 socket bonuses they really care about us |
| 18:23.14 | Neriak | peACE! |
| 18:23.14 | KarlThePagan | brb |
| 18:23.19 | kenlyric|work | heh. |
| 18:23.24 | kenlyric|work | +agility? |
| 18:23.36 | Necrathex | no! let's start teh 1st bar war |
| 18:23.51 | kenlyric|work | yes you can. |
| 18:23.52 | Neriak | b3 is > all! |
| 18:23.56 | kenlyric|work | there's an option right on my window. |
| 18:23.59 | kenlyric|work | errr, menu |
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| 18:24.19 | Necrathex | :o |
| 18:24.28 | kenlyric|work | and it does indeed work. |
| 18:24.50 | kenlyric|work | it was only recently even added in. |
| 18:25.04 | kenlyric|work | I know, because I had omnicc installed and was getting two counts. |
| 18:25.09 | Necrathex | idd |
| 18:25.15 | Necrathex | had that too before |
| 18:25.33 | Necrathex | this BugGrabber sound is cool :P |
| 18:25.50 | sylvanaar | This is a collaborative environment vs a drive through addon dispenser - i must be cranky too |
| 18:26.17 | sylvanaar | i read my back buffer - thats never good |
| 18:26.30 | cheers | lol |
| 18:26.38 | kenlyric|work | scrollback is a friend to nobody. |
| 18:26.39 | cheers | is there a way to drop wow add-ons into a debugger, otu of curiosity? |
| 18:26.57 | cheers | I was looking @ one last night w/ the bf, and I wanted nothing more than to put a breakpoint in the code >.< |
| 18:27.07 | Necrathex | okay, another question about bartender, it hides my lag-o-meter, anyone know how to get it back? |
| 18:27.28 | cheers | lol "lag-o-meter" :D |
| 18:27.36 | kenlyric|work | no clue on that one. It only recently got an xp bar. |
| 18:27.39 | sylvanaar | my Prat scrollback, hours after fixing the hiding for the fubar people are in irc throwing tantrums |
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| 18:27.50 | sylvanaar | good think i wasnt here |
| 18:27.51 | vhaarr | Necrathex: Get FuBar and FuBar_PerformanceFu. |
| 18:28.04 | Necrathex | vhaarr: i don't want to, i want my lag-o-meter |
| 18:28.12 | Necrathex | ah yes, where's my xp bar :P |
| 18:28.52 | kergoth | i'm sure there are addons for standalone xp / latency display |
| 18:28.52 | vhaarr | I don't care what you want, get FuBar and FuBar_FuXPFu. |
| 18:28.52 | Necrathex | ah in the menu |
| 18:28.53 | kenlyric|work | uh, I think the point is about scope. |
| 18:28.53 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r21602 10Fence/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:28.53 | CIA-17 | Fence: |
| 18:28.53 | CIA-17 | - omg! here comes teh pr0n!!1 |
| 18:28.53 | CIA-17 | - added three different styles for Single Price |
| 18:28.53 | CIA-17 | - added an option to show if there's already a bid on an item |
| 18:28.53 | CIA-17 | - fixed DeuceCommander issue in Bid Watch, now there's an extra GUI option for the bid command |
| 18:28.53 | Necrathex | yeah kenlyric|work |
| 18:28.57 | Necrathex | think i made my point, i'll just shut up now, not making friends i think ;0 |
| 18:29.26 | kenlyric|work | you can't make pissy comments about mods and scope when mods don't even keep the proper scope. |
| 18:30.43 | kergoth | hm? bar shouldnt control the casting bar, and if it were up to me, it wouldnt do cooldown counts either, so i'll make as many comments as i like, thanks. |
| 18:30.54 | sylvanaar | ok - we need help around here with the wiki pages - how about helping us too (not directed at anyone in particular) |
| 18:30.54 | kergoth | s/bar/bar3/ |
| 18:30.56 | kenlyric|work | yes, but it should control the latency bar. |
| 18:31.00 | kenlyric|work | since it removes the latency bar. |
| 18:31.06 | kergoth | indeed |
| 18:31.12 | eagle|afk | sylvanaar: define "help with the wiki pages" |
| 18:31.27 | axxo | kenlyric|work: nobody in there sane mind wants the latency bar |
| 18:31.37 | kenlyric|work | that's not really the point. |
| 18:31.40 | Necrathex | still, i think you should be able to move the castbar around too when the mod allows you to move the stancebar, petbar, xpbar |
| 18:31.41 | axxo | it is. |
| 18:31.53 | axxo | Necrathex: get a castbar mod. |
| 18:31.57 | Necrathex | most of the time when you move them around you need to move the castbar too |
| 18:32.10 | Necrathex | axxo: i will indeed do that :p |
| 18:32.18 | Aeliel | I wouldn't want a bar mod giving me the ability to move the castbar... bar mod = moving bars, castbar mod = moving the castbar |
| 18:32.24 | kergoth | Necrathex: casting bar is not a group of buttons, nor is it something that bartender3 hides, like the xpbar |
| 18:32.37 | kenlyric|work | so, you want an xpbar mod too for moving the XP bar? |
| 18:32.38 | sylvanaar | we need people to help update them |
| 18:32.45 | Neriak | lololo |
| 18:32.49 | Neriak | s/lololo/lol |
| 18:33.00 | abyssichate | that's nerdish |
| 18:33.03 | Neriak | purl doesn't know me anymore? :( |
| 18:33.04 | Necrathex | hm okay, maybe you're right, i might be preoccupied by the workings of bongos |
| 18:33.11 | Necrathex | (if that's correct english) |
| 18:33.13 | axxo | the xpbar is linked to the button bar in the default blizzard ui |
| 18:33.14 | axxo | castbar is not |
| 18:33.22 | kergoth | casting bar is obviously outside its scope. there are things that are at least arguable, but that one is not |
| 18:33.28 | kenlyric|work | and what about the latency bar? ;) |
| 18:33.46 | Necrathex | ok, casting bar doesn't get touched, fine, but the latency bar is nice |
| 18:33.57 | kenlyric|work | no, they are right. |
| 18:34.01 | Necrathex | when i'm lagging i can easily see if it's my connection with WoW server or something else |
| 18:34.02 | kenlyric|work | nobody needs to see the latency bar :) |
| 18:34.10 | Necrathex | :( |
| 18:34.12 | Aeliel | sylvanaar: anything in the specific, and do I need much of a clue about code or anything? =P |
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| 18:34.22 | kenlyric|work | get fubar and performancefu :) |
| 18:34.26 | Necrathex | fubar is full |
| 18:34.32 | Necrathex | no space for performancefu |
| 18:34.35 | axxo | Necrathex: and with performancefu you can se actual numbers instead of a random color coded brick |
| 18:34.37 | kenlyric|work | you ahve a minimap. |
| 18:34.42 | sylvanaar | Aeliel: you just need to learn how to edit the wiki, and theres an area to practice in |
| 18:34.52 | kenlyric|work | my minimap is a sea of circles. |
| 18:34.59 | Necrathex | axxo: you can see the numbers when you mouse it over |
| 18:35.10 | Eej | performancefu is depressing |
| 18:35.10 | Soulless | ok, i have a bunch of names saved as frame1, frame2, frame3 etc, how would i call them in a for loop with i? like frame..i isn't right |
| 18:35.14 | Eej | it never shows me under 200ms ping |
| 18:35.21 | cheers | sylvanaar: what needs updated? |
| 18:35.33 | kergoth | i like a standalone performance display myself. makes it easier to disable every other addon, including fubarplugin, and enable them one by one to isolate problems |
| 18:36.06 | odt | anyone know BIOSes and stuff? |
| 18:36.35 | odt | what's the problem when the computer seems to be spamming the b key continuosly, even with the keyboard physically removed |
| 18:36.48 | sylvanaar | long list of things im sure - Prat does, perhaps you can read the wiki pages for the mods you use most and see if you think anything could be added |
| 18:36.52 | Neriak | kergoth: do you know why purl doesn't correct me anymore? |
| 18:37.02 | Neriak | perl sux |
| 18:37.07 | Neriak | s/perl/purl |
| 18:37.09 | kergoth | Neriak: you didnt complete your replacement |
| 18:37.13 | kergoth | s/didnt/foo/ |
| 18:37.16 | kergoth | trailing / |
| 18:37.17 | Neriak | s/perl/purl/ |
| 18:37.21 | Necrathex | is Visor any good for moving frames? |
| 18:37.21 | Neriak | doh |
| 18:37.24 | Neriak | thanks :)) |
| 18:37.32 | Aeliel | sylvanaar: basically, go through mod pages, and if anything looks out of date / missing anything, update it? |
| 18:37.45 | sylvanaar | Aeliel: yeah, basically |
| 18:37.56 | Aeliel | ok cool... that I can at least try help with :] |
| 18:38.08 | kergoth | stuck at work bored |
| 18:38.12 | kergoth | methinks i'll write rrdtool for lua |
| 18:39.07 | sylvanaar | I couldnt think of one developer who would object to adding documentation for them |
| 18:39.34 | cheers | sylvanaar: there's nothing devs love more than someone else writing the documentation ;) |
| 18:39.44 | sylvanaar | you prolly make lotsa friends that way |
| 18:41.15 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r21603 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua: FuBar_PotHerbFu : corrected error in text display |
| 18:41.21 | sylvanaar | 99% of developers find docuementation as difficult as users find programming |
| 18:42.43 | Dhraga | nevcairiel or anyone that knows.... Does BT3 support the petbar for CD's now ? |
| 18:42.46 | Trancer | documentation, wooo, hate it, grr. |
| 18:42.47 | sylvanaar | im really bad, because i make too many assumtions when i explain something to someone |
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| 18:43.10 | kergoth | sylvanaar: i think thats probably the most common issue |
| 18:43.17 | kergoth | onc eyou know a system, you cant look at it from the right perspective anymore |
| 18:43.25 | cheers | sure.. we understand our stuff... why shouldn't everyone else! ;) |
| 18:43.41 | kergoth | its obvious! silly users and their not grasping whats so obvious |
| 18:43.43 | kergoth | tisk |
| 18:43.44 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:44.37 | Trancer | many development companies do not allow their programmers to write the documentation |
| 18:44.46 | sylvanaar | yeah, its like telling someone to right-click, and they dont know what a mouse is |
| 18:44.55 | Trancer | it should be the same for interface design, programmers shouldn't dare to touch it with a ten foot stick |
| 18:44.55 | kergoth | the only docs i write are design docs |
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| 18:45.01 | Trancer | kergoth: \o/ |
| 18:45.11 | kenlyric|work | well, many programming companies don't allow their programmers to design user interfaces at all :) |
| 18:45.23 | vhaarr | Even that sucks, if you ask me, at least when you know in your head how it's going to work anyway. |
| 18:45.25 | cheers | LOL |
| 18:45.48 | cheers | but not w/o the UI guy over her shoulder |
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| 18:45.54 | cheers | s/her/my. |
| 18:45.57 | Trancer | kenlyric|work: the way it should be |
| 18:46.01 | kenlyric|work | you probably go through usability testing too. |
| 18:46.03 | Trancer | kenlyric|work: programmers make horrible UI's :/ |
| 18:46.33 | cheers | kenlyric|work: only in that the whole company uses the alphas, but that's 'cuz we're small |
| 18:46.45 | cheers | QA's tripled in size since I was hired... to 3 people. |
| 18:46.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:46.59 | sylvanaar | ui design is a seperate facet of development - which by the way is why wow uses xml + lua (or at least its why i used xml in my apps for the ui) |
| 18:47.14 | KarlThePagan | cheers - test-driven development? |
| 18:47.20 | Trancer | it's a pitty there are hardly any good studies for interface design ;/ |
| 18:47.25 | kergoth | i dont mind xml, it has its place |
| 18:47.29 | kergoth | does get overused at times though |
| 18:47.29 | Trancer | MIT had one, but it shutdown aswell :S |
| 18:47.49 | KarlThePagan | if not then slap your managers |
| 18:47.50 | kenlyric|work | the school at work at has an excellent program. |
| 18:47.56 | cheers | lol managers |
| 18:47.59 | cheers | that's cute ;) |
| 18:48.02 | kergoth | meh, to do this rrd the way i want to, i'm gonna have to take AceOO and make sure it works smoothly outside of wow again, and do some further tweaking |
| 18:48.03 | sylvanaar | its just easy to use because everyone agrees on how to parse it |
| 18:48.04 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 18:48.04 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 18:48.10 | kenlyric|work | Informatics degrees in human/computer interactions. |
| 18:48.23 | cheers | the CEO is the other guy who works on my project, to give you an idea of hte structure here ;) |
| 18:48.30 | Trancer | kenlyric|work: yeah, it gets close |
| 18:48.34 | KarlThePagan | excellent cheers |
| 18:48.40 | kergoth | sylvanaar: what drives me bonkers is people that dont accept that its a data description format and exchange format, not a fucking database format |
| 18:48.48 | kergoth | they used XML for PIM data on the sharp zaurus stock software |
| 18:48.51 | xlvii | #wowace, i need your help! |
| 18:48.51 | KarlThePagan | when you do your next rewrite look into TDD ;) |
| 18:49.00 | cheers | xlvii: we'll save you! |
| 18:49.03 | xlvii | i've been having trouble sleeping for the last few days ;p |
| 18:49.04 | yacoob | cheers, you're reading Joel's? |
| 18:49.06 | Trancer | hehe kergoth, but you can store stuffs in it! |
| 18:49.10 | cheers | yacoob: I'm sorry? |
| 18:49.13 | vhaarr | ~help xlvii |
| 18:49.18 | vhaarr | bah |
| 18:49.27 | xlvii | just then i lay in bed for close to 4 hours.. with my eyes closed, and i couldn't even get to sleep |
| 18:49.29 | xlvii | >_> |
| 18:49.31 | kergoth | Trancer: and rewrite the whole file for every modification, so nice on FLASH media iwh al mited lifetime :) |
| 18:49.31 | yacoob | cheers, I'm refering to your previous lines about ui designing. You read Joel Spolsky's blog? |
| 18:49.35 | xlvii | what should i do, wise old #wowace |
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| 18:50.01 | Trancer | now you know why they got so big in selling NEW flash media ;) |
| 18:50.10 | cheers | ah, no i haven't, but it's not particularly my forte... I do some because I'm the only one who's really ON my project right now, except Ken who, well, is often busy |
| 18:50.16 | Fisker- | weab ? |
| 18:50.23 | weab | Fisker-: ? |
| 18:50.32 | cheers | ooooh |
| 18:50.34 | cheers | THIS guy! |
| 18:50.35 | Trancer | xlvii: drink coffee, keep on rocking for another 20h |
| 18:50.37 | Fisker- | got a request for automaton :) |
| 18:50.38 | cheers | I've seen a few of his posts |
| 18:50.39 | yacoob | cheers, if you haven't read Joel's, take a peek. I'm not a programmer, but I find it interesting to read. |
| 18:50.47 | weab | Fisker-: sure, shoot. |
| 18:50.56 | xlvii | trancer, but.. i heard you can die from staying awake so much. lol. |
| 18:50.58 | yacoob | Once you get through the presentation layer, which is sometimes very... very... arrogant :) |
| 18:51.02 | xlvii | trancer, i've been awake for close to 36h |
| 18:51.02 | Fisker- | invite keyword for parties/raids :P |
| 18:51.03 | xlvii | >_> |
| 18:51.08 | kergoth | joel's has good stuff, i have a printout of his article on everything one needs to know about character sets on my desk |
| 18:51.09 | Trancer | joelonsoftware \o/ |
| 18:51.16 | Trancer | xlvii: you need to be awake for 12days for that ;) |
| 18:51.18 | cheers | haha |
| 18:51.23 | Trancer | xlvii: so you still have 11 days to go, hop hop |
| 18:51.24 | sylvanaar | kergoth: yeah, its heirarchical - not meant to be relational |
| 18:51.27 | xlvii | joels articles? |
| 18:51.36 | xlvii | give me a link.. i want to read something interesting. ;p |
| 18:51.41 | cheers | xlvii: don't take a nap today. don't go to bed early. stay up till normal time, maybe a bit later. (that's how I get my clock reset, anyway) |
| 18:51.47 | weab | Fisker-: I've got it on my list, it's certainly something I've been meaning to do |
| 18:51.51 | cheers | xlvii: and DON'T sleep in t'morrow |
| 18:52.01 | kenlyric|work | yes. The best solution to insomnia is to not lie in bed forever. |
| 18:52.21 | cheers | http://www.joelonsoftware.com/ <-- that's the general link |
| 18:52.28 | Baps | if you're not asleep in 20 minutes, get up and do something until you feel tired |
| 18:52.39 | kenlyric|work | 20 minutes... lol.. woudln't that be nice. |
| 18:52.39 | cheers | Baps: last time I did that Iwas up till 6 AM :( |
| 18:52.50 | Trancer | I got nothing to do this evening for the first time since 6 days, I am shit bored.. trade xlvii? :o |
| 18:52.53 | kenlyric|work | I usually take over 30 mins to fall asleep. |
| 18:52.59 | kergoth | i'm usually aasleep less than 2 minutes after hitting the pillow |
| 18:53.12 | kenlyric|work | my wife is like that. I hate her a little |
| 18:53.14 | Fisker- | ok cool |
| 18:53.14 | cheers | haha, to hear john tell it I'm out before i'm under the blankets |
| 18:53.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:53.17 | Trancer | kergoth: same in train tho :o |
| 18:53.24 | sylvanaar | my cat's been sick - so i have been sleeping like 1-2 hours a day |
| 18:53.26 | KarlThePagan | xlvii, whatever you do don't make any financial decisions until you've had 8 hours of sleep lol |
| 18:53.33 | Trancer | oversleeping the rail stations sucks tho :( |
| 18:53.34 | xlvii | i need to find some sort of 'zaping' alarm.. i sleep so deeply, my stereo is set to turn on at 8:00 am every morning, at half volume (close to 80db [soundproof room]).. it doesn't even wake me up. |
| 18:53.36 | kenlyric|work | they have those new commercials for that sleep medicine, and I think maybe I might need it. |
| 18:53.41 | kergoth | Trancer: yeah... i was having trouble at work earlier this week, nothing to do, staring at the screen... hard to stay awake :| |
| 18:53.50 | xlvii | karlthepagan, my girlfriend wants to go shopping.. |
| 18:53.56 | KarlThePagan | NO NO NO |
| 18:54.02 | Trancer | kergoth: I got the same now kinda, worked my ass off the whole week, 12h a day and now.. *void* |
| 18:54.04 | kergoth | shopping this week? death wish much? |
| 18:54.06 | xlvii | that's happening in about 10 hours. |
| 18:54.06 | Trancer | so I am like *gah* |
| 18:54.07 | xlvii | >_> |
| 18:54.10 | KarlThePagan | heeh dementia will set in and you'll be all "uh yea we do need that thing" |
| 18:54.18 | cheers | lol kergoth |
| 18:54.19 | xlvii | kergoth, i have $200 in my wallet. |
| 18:54.25 | xlvii | that's all she's getting. |
| 18:54.26 | cheers | *sigh* |
| 18:54.33 | Trancer | xlvii: just say you'll visit Hastens to "test a bed" |
| 18:54.37 | cheers | xlvii: so cruel! |
| 18:54.53 | kergoth | you'll get trampled by a crazed soccer mom or something, malls are dangerous this time of year |
| 18:54.53 | Trancer | "wihle you are visiting the blabla store I will just check out the bed shop real quick, kk?" |
| 18:54.56 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:54.59 | xlvii | rofl. |
| 18:55.06 | cheers | haha, I HAVE read joels lately, i just hadn't realizd that's what i was reading.. the rant on the shut-down menu in longhorn |
| 18:55.08 | xlvii | i probably would fall asleep testing out beds :P |
| 18:55.13 | sylvanaar | has anyone written a generic frame modifier? that lets you set all of the attributes for arbitrary frames? |
| 18:55.30 | Trancer | xlvii: my point exactly |
| 18:55.48 | kergoth | sylvanaar: someone was starting one, dewdrop based clique like thing, but more generic |
| 18:55.52 | kergoth | dont remember who though |
| 18:55.56 | sylvanaar | the blue pill is your friend for life |
| 18:57.10 | sylvanaar | yeah, what might be handy is something that would generate an aceoptions group when given a frame name |
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| 18:57.28 | weab | kergoth: you said something a week or two ago about making a change to automaton but I forgot what it was, and I said you could go ahead and do it so I didn't write it down anywhere. |
| 18:57.42 | kergoth | umm let me think... |
| 18:57.46 | kergoth | my memory sucks |
| 18:57.47 | cheers | weab: brilliant plan ;) |
| 18:57.52 | kergoth | wait, i remember |
| 18:58.00 | weab | but I don't remember what it was now and I'm pretty sure you didn't do it :P |
| 18:58.06 | kergoth | i wanted the thing that autodeclines guild invites to have an optoin to autoaccept them from people on your friends list |
| 18:58.12 | kergoth | i did it locally but forgot to check it into wowace svn |
| 18:58.29 | weab | ah, right. |
| 18:58.29 | cheers | kergoth: is that something that comes up often? |
| 18:58.32 | cheers | the auto-accept? |
| 18:58.36 | renchap | is it a function in the wow or ace api to get time ? or to set a timer ? |
| 18:58.47 | cheers | none of my chars has had a ginvite in like... a year |
| 18:59.00 | weab | perhaps kergoth jumps back and forth between guilds. who knows! |
| 18:59.10 | kergoth | cheers: well, if you're autodeclining always, like i normally do to avoid random solicitation, its nice for when you do finally want in a guild to just add them to your friends list, rather than disabling the feature and re-anbling it |
| 18:59.10 | cheers | indeed |
| 18:59.14 | kergoth | if that makes any sense |
| 18:59.31 | cheers | kergoth: yeah it does, I guess... I just guild my alts so people don't bug em |
| 18:59.34 | kergoth | its a little thing, but *shrug* |
| 18:59.41 | cheers | only people IN the guild are me & john, for the most part ;) |
| 18:59.49 | sylvanaar | you do get them - mostly the charter sign spam though |
| 18:59.58 | kergoth | i dont like going into optoins of addons and toggling them unnecessarily |
| 19:00.00 | cheers | oh that shit annoys me |
| 19:00.00 | Trancer | cheers: it's needed or you go mental |
| 19:00.08 | Trancer | cheers: especially if you are a DURID or a preist |
| 19:00.28 | Trancer | I don't want to imagine what a guildless horde paladin will soon endure |
| 19:00.30 | cheers | Trancer: I'm a priest |
| 19:00.36 | sylvanaar | yeah, those are the 2 chars i play mosty druid/priest |
| 19:00.40 | cheers | and yeah, it was annoying. So, I got guilded |
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| 19:00.46 | Necrathex | does anyone know a good addon to move around blizzard frames? |
| 19:00.57 | Trancer | was guildless for 3 days, went banana's (priest) |
| 19:01.01 | cheers | lol |
| 19:01.02 | Aeliel | I'm a druid, epic'd out, just moved to a new server. 27 unwanted guild invites / charter requests in the first day =_= |
| 19:01.05 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r21604 10XLootGroup/XLootGroup.lua: XLootGroup: Let's not forget kiddies, self applies to something else when you're changing what table calls it. |
| 19:01.13 | Trancer | Aeliel: :p |
| 19:01.17 | sylvanaar | i have a guild on every server which houses my chars - same name on all 5 servers |
| 19:01.19 | Trancer | sounds like EU-SovietMaul |
| 19:01.22 | cheers | Aeliel: probably not the guilsd your loooking for though |
| 19:01.30 | Aeliel | mostly from level <20 people |
| 19:01.30 | Gandharva | Gnaforz: are you here? |
| 19:01.32 | Aeliel | so no :p |
| 19:01.42 | cheers | lol |
| 19:01.45 | Trancer | Aeliel: you are so selfish |
| 19:01.46 | Feldia | errm stupid question |
| 19:01.56 | Feldia | what's the difference between ElkBuffBar and ElkBuffBars |
| 19:02.00 | Aeliel | I'm not even looking for a guild right now... moved to the server to play with a friend and my boyfriend, will look into a good raiding guild again when I'm level 70 :P |
| 19:02.00 | Trancer | Aeliel: you could at least boost them through SM |
| 19:02.08 | Aeliel | Trancer: rofl |
| 19:02.16 | cheers | yeah, seems the way to go, atm |
| 19:02.30 | Trancer | if you look for a raiding guild now you must be desperate |
| 19:02.31 | Iceroth | ok, is it prat that hid my channel leave/join messages? |
| 19:02.32 | cheers | whereas, with 2 weeks of raiding left till xpac, my guild FINALLY realizes we could use a shadow priest *sigh* |
| 19:02.37 | Trancer | chances you'll be kicked out at TBC are like what, 90%? |
| 19:02.39 | kergoth | Feldia: elkbuffbars is a rewrite, and isnt functional yet |
| 19:02.41 | sylvanaar | Aeliel: i had the same problem when i moved servers, so the next time i moved i paid for sigs the minute i signed in |
| 19:02.42 | Trancer | all of those guilds need to slim down anyway |
| 19:02.46 | kergoth | Feldia: you'll want to switch to it eventually, but not today |
| 19:02.52 | Feldia | ok, ty |
| 19:02.58 | cheers | *nod* |
| 19:03.05 | sylvanaar | Iceroth: probably |
| 19:03.05 | cheers | I'm guessing that ours is gonna split in half |
| 19:03.09 | renchap | is it a function in the wow or ace api to get time ? or to set a timer ? |
| 19:03.10 | Aeliel | sylvanaar: I might end up doing that... something like <Already Guilded> or something :P |
| 19:03.16 | Iceroth | how can i get them back? |
| 19:03.23 | cheers | we absorbed another guild when everyones were crumbling, and they didn't mesh too well |
| 19:03.25 | fathom | i asked this a while ago but not as many people were around. Did cyArt get updated at all? Sarien's site is down. |
| 19:03.29 | Trancer | ours already did, the "elite hardcore raiding group" buggered off, happy so, they were annoying :p |
| 19:03.30 | sylvanaar | Aeliel: Mine is called "Collecting Dust" |
| 19:03.33 | Aeliel | lol |
| 19:03.36 | fathom | er Sairen |
| 19:03.44 | cheers | haha |
| 19:03.46 | sylvanaar | its for unplayed toons mostly |
| 19:04.09 | Trancer | cheers: I expect that spinoff (hardcore) guild to die soon ;) |
| 19:04.09 | Aeliel | makes sense :) |
| 19:04.14 | Trancer | cheers: then I am going to snigger |
| 19:04.20 | Trancer | do you play on EU btw? |
| 19:04.24 | cheers | nope |
| 19:04.35 | Trancer | oh, lucky bug, then you don't know how Macedonian internet is |
| 19:04.40 | Necrathex | hm Aeliel, what's your old realm? |
| 19:04.45 | Trancer | half of our server is eastern european.. |
| 19:04.45 | sylvanaar | Its always funny when I am asked if my guild raids |
| 19:04.57 | Aeliel | used to be on EU-Azjol-Nerub, now am EU-Silvermoon |
| 19:05.01 | Trancer | twin emps attempt and then "oops, macedonia offline", boom, 50% of the raid gone ;) |
| 19:05.03 | Necrathex | thought so :) |
| 19:05.04 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: around? :) |
| 19:05.06 | cheers | Trancer: sounds like a time-zone nightmare |
| 19:05.08 | hugo | hi |
| 19:05.12 | hugo | hello vhaarr you here ? |
| 19:05.15 | Aeliel | Necrathex: do I know you? =P |
| 19:05.18 | Necrathex | Aeliel: i'm on AN still :p |
| 19:05.23 | Necrathex | seen you around yes |
| 19:05.24 | hugo | don't you know if the AceAddon lin is fixed now ? |
| 19:05.27 | Trancer | cheers: the TZ is bareable, it's crappy internet/netcafes/power horrors |
| 19:05.30 | sylvanaar | Iceroth: who module |
| 19:05.31 | hugo | lib |
| 19:05.32 | cheers | Trancer: eww, we have a bit of that... about 6 or 7 of our crew is in SF |
| 19:05.37 | xlvii | http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/172601243.html ROFL |
| 19:05.40 | cheers | and another chunk are in arizona |
| 19:05.45 | Iceroth | sylvanaar, ty |
| 19:05.46 | cheers | so when something happens, we lose chunks o people |
| 19:05.54 | Aeliel | Necrathex: ahh :) on the other hand I have no idea who you are, lol - name is mildly familiar but more people know me than I know, probably, as I used to run the unofficial server forums |
| 19:05.55 | kergoth | Gnarfoz: somewhat |
| 19:06.00 | Trancer | yeah, we got the same, kinda, it's rather annoying ;) |
| 19:06.17 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: did you have a look at the TGAs for C_H? ;) |
| 19:06.18 | Trancer | ah well, at least got rid of EU-Skullcrusher |
| 19:06.21 | cheers | Trancer: at leat you don't have aussies ;) |
| 19:06.28 | Trancer | cheers: hahaha, okay, you got me |
| 19:06.31 | Necrathex | Aeliel: i think so yes, your name reminded me of your avatar with the catform druid :p |
| 19:06.31 | Feldia | anyone know when this "advanced mode" is going to be added to bt3? |
| 19:06.33 | Trancer | cheers: that's a valid point ;) |
| 19:06.33 | sylvanaar | Iceroth: i changed some of the meanings in the options - personally id just disable who - im not a fan, but its part of the original mod |
| 19:06.37 | cheers | lol |
| 19:06.37 | kergoth | Gnarfoz: i tried, but the beta realms were down and there was a long queue on my normal realm, didnt play much last night :P |
| 19:06.43 | Gnarfoz | heh ok |
| 19:06.44 | cheers | Trancer: their latency is AWFUL all the time |
| 19:06.59 | Aeliel | Necrathex: hehe. amusing thing is that avatar is from a screenshot I took way back at level 20 when I first got catform :D |
| 19:07.02 | Trancer | cheers: yeah, its like the russians on Sovietmaul (Stonemaul) |
| 19:07.13 | Necrathex | best screenshots :) |
| 19:07.16 | cheers | lol |
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| 19:07.29 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.31 | Aeliel | come to think of it. anybody know of an addon / way to reroute all "can u boost me through [instance] plx" whispers to a separate window or something? >_> |
| 19:07.41 | Trancer | Aeliel: to looking for group! |
| 19:07.57 | Trancer | so you can help out the poor lowbies with SM ^^ |
| 19:08.06 | Trancer | and autoaccept aswell |
| 19:08.09 | Aeliel | lol |
| 19:08.12 | Necrathex | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.13 | sylvanaar | Aeliel: well, probably some ignore mod |
| 19:08.48 | cheers | I mostly get "ok, thanks"... |
| 19:08.51 | cheers | :shrug: |
| 19:08.54 | Aeliel | lucky :) |
| 19:08.59 | cheers | lol |
| 19:09.08 | Trancer | hrmz, reminds me, got to add that BT3 request to do "barswapping" at OnHostile etc. |
| 19:09.18 | cheers | I've done my share of begging for people for groups, i can understand it... |
| 19:09.34 | cheers | but, really, I don't need to run BRD. |
| 19:10.01 | Trancer | I liked DM:N Tribute run with the new talent specs :o |
| 19:10.08 | cheers | ewww |
| 19:10.13 | Trancer | 32 minutes clear ;) |
| 19:10.19 | Trancer | including some slacking |
| 19:10.34 | Trancer | most of those lower instances are just funny with the new talents |
| 19:10.34 | cheers | oh wow |
| 19:10.51 | cheers | we cleared live-side twice, collecting orbs |
| 19:10.53 | cheers | which was nice |
| 19:11.03 | cheers | but it was late & we were goofy so it took awhile |
| 19:11.04 | Aeliel | I don't mind running people through instances, as long as it's people I know and know they have a clue about the class they're playing... if not they get to learn it the hard way |
| 19:11.56 | sylvanaar | man i can heal live in tree form without ever running out of mana |
| 19:12.04 | kenlyric|work | I just hit 50 on my new priest today, and it's like the floodgates have opened. |
| 19:12.08 | cheers | sylvanaar: yeah, I DPS'ed most of hte run |
| 19:12.13 | kenlyric|work | I can't wait *sarcasm* until 60. |
| 19:12.59 | sylvanaar | my favorite live runs have been the 5 priest or 4 priest 1 druid runs |
| 19:13.18 | cheers | eesh |
| 19:13.30 | Trancer | at level 45 or so a shadow priest gets totally imbalanced, to become rebalanced at 60 ;) |
| 19:13.37 | cheers | Trancer: yeah |
| 19:13.43 | waffle | 49 shadow priest pvp ROCKS |
| 19:13.54 | cheers | It was about then I started slaughtering juan w/ my priest to his mage |
| 19:13.58 | sylvanaar | hands down the most entertaining strat runs for sure |
| 19:14.08 | kenlyric|work | yeah, i'm starting to find it a bit pressing to be the sole healer in a group. The 270 spirit helps, though. |
| 19:14.10 | cheers | and then, we hit 60. I've been playing catchup ever since |
| 19:14.11 | Trancer | sylvanaar: mmhhmh in stratholme, go to the big square |
| 19:14.16 | Trancer | sylvanaar: try to AoE all groups at once ^^ |
| 19:14.21 | Trancer | with a level 50 shaman healing you |
| 19:14.31 | Trancer | alcohol wasn't nice for us :( |
| 19:14.35 | Aeliel | lol |
| 19:14.36 | cheers | lol |
| 19:14.47 | sylvanaar | we had 5 priest using HoNo |
| 19:15.02 | sylvanaar | it was just silly |
| 19:15.04 | Trancer | that's also fun ;) |
| 19:15.10 | Trancer | + extra holy water :p |
| 19:15.11 | sylvanaar | hono outside |
| 19:15.17 | sylvanaar | then MC inside |
| 19:15.21 | sylvanaar | gg |
| 19:15.27 | Necrathex | ok, anyone know an addon to move frames around? |
| 19:15.43 | Necrathex | this visor is driving me insane (: |
| 19:16.03 | sylvanaar | did you learn nothing from earlier |
| 19:16.03 | Trancer | I also really enjoyed the tankless scholo runs |
| 19:16.30 | Trancer | nice chaos ensured |
| 19:16.37 | sylvanaar | priests make great tanks |
| 19:16.48 | Trancer | they do now with reflective shield and pain suppression |
| 19:16.52 | Trancer | I got it, it's insane |
| 19:16.55 | Xuerian | Mage mage warlock druid priest XD |
| 19:17.08 | sylvanaar | yeah i have it on beta since i can respec for 1 copper |
| 19:17.11 | Trancer | it's so lovely to stand in the middle of a group of crap and they are not able to kill you |
| 19:17.25 | Aeliel | Necrathex: I seem to recall seeing a MoveAnything! updated for this patch over on wowinterface.com - also, I think KC_Mobility works, too (wowace.com/files) - but haven't tried either, so I can't recommend |
| 19:18.00 | Pkekyo | possible to get more room in friends or/and ignorelist? |
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| 19:18.17 | sylvanaar | i think i am going to play wow for a bit |
| 19:18.22 | Necrathex | Aeliel: i tried KC_Mobility earlier but no succes, will give MoveAnything a try, used that before the patch |
| 19:18.26 | waffle | Pkekyo: IgnoreMore |
| 19:18.29 | Gnarfoz | anyone with a beta account around? |
| 19:18.37 | Gnarfoz | can someone please tell me if the icon for "Ancient Lichen" (herb) is working fine ingame? or perhaps even show me a screenshot of it? (preferably as large as possible, i.e. 64x64) |
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| 19:19.29 | kergoth | what do you mean by "fine"? the icon certainly shows up |
| 19:20.49 | Gnarfoz | weird |
| 19:20.54 | Gnarfoz | because wowImage can not convert it |
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| 19:21.06 | Gnarfoz | every two lines there are 2 lines of white pixels |
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| 19:22.07 | Gnarfoz | another question, is BLP (or PNG24+alpha) lossy compression? |
| 19:22.18 | sylvanaar | or who is this Terak guy on the prat thread |
| 19:22.34 | sylvanaar | ~roulette |
| 19:22.41 | purl | ACTION watches sylvanaar pull the trigger: Click! |
| 19:22.41 | Necrathex | ah! |
| 19:22.41 | Necrathex | visor has keybindings |
| 19:22.42 | Necrathex | nobody told me :p |
| 19:22.51 | sylvanaar | ~rtfm |
| 19:22.52 | purl | well, rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
| 19:23.13 | cheers | there WOULD be a wiki page about RTFM |
| 19:23.29 | Necrathex | sylvanaar: where is tfm of visor? |
| 19:23.57 | cheers | Necrathex: there's usually usage info in a readme in the mod, or on the page you dl'ed it from... |
| 19:24.02 | cheers | those're good spots to start ;) |
| 19:24.11 | Necrathex | there isn't |
| 19:24.12 | sylvanaar | ~roulette |
| 19:24.13 | purl | ACTION watches sylvanaar pull the trigger: Click! |
| 19:24.19 | Necrathex | i started htere ofc |
| 19:24.19 | cheers | Necrathex: there's also likely information on the wiki |
| 19:24.24 | Necrathex | there isn't |
| 19:24.37 | Necrathex | wasn't able to find on google either |
| 19:24.53 | kergoth | meh, i go to start writing rrdlua, but get distracted by poking at aceoo, and now i find myself wanting to hack up a better version of luadoc to document aceoo |
| 19:25.07 | cheers | kergoth: look, shiney! |
| 19:25.14 | kergoth | ooh! |
| 19:25.22 | cheers | haha |
| 19:25.24 | Xuerian | rrdlua? o.0 |
| 19:25.43 | kergoth | http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/index.en.html |
| 19:25.52 | kergoth | "RRD is the acronym for Round Robin Database. It is a system to store and display time-series data (i.e. network bandwidth, machine-room temperature, server load average)." |
| 19:26.25 | Xuerian | Oo. |
| 19:26.30 | kergoth | does interpolation of values if it receives them at a different time than expected and stuff |
| 19:26.33 | kergoth | quite nice |
| 19:26.41 | kergoth | i want to use it to analize things like the network latency in wow over time |
| 19:26.45 | kergoth | among other things |
| 19:27.04 | Xuerian | Shiny. I Network monitor would be cool, I always had the nifty detailed one up in tribes2. >.> |
| 19:27.10 | Xuerian | s/I/A/ |
| 19:27.41 | cheers | Necrathex: from the wowi page that you can dl visor from "Type /"vz help" for a rundown on the various options that can be used to modify frames" |
| 19:27.58 | Xuerian | "Visor2 GUI? /beg /plead /grovel New" Guuhhh.... |
| 19:28.12 | kergoth | rrdtool is very cool, its used by most open source network usage monitoring tools (i.e. the spiffy pretty graphs on webpages) |
| 19:28.41 | cheers | now, if only I could win at the stuff I'm SUPPOSED to be working on |
| 19:28.46 | Xuerian | XD |
| 19:28.52 | kergoth | i'd like to win at staying awake |
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| 19:28.54 | kergoth | i'm losing atm |
| 19:29.00 | cheers | Xuerian: I'm unsure if you're pickign on me, or telling me to quit bothering to help the stubborn people ;) |
| 19:29.07 | Xuerian | Neither. |
| 19:29.13 | cheers | whew ;) |
| 19:29.15 | Xuerian | Insulting the nubs and applauding you :p |
| 19:29.37 | cheers | see that's your problem, you have to tease them along, show them the error of their ways ;) |
| 19:29.39 | Necrathex | cheers: i know that, but it doesn't mention the keybindings |
| 19:29.59 | Xuerian | cheers: But, but, it's so fun to tease them without the along part :(( |
| 19:30.10 | cheers | Necrathex: I don't use the mod, I can't tell you more abouti t, but between /vz help and /vz config i bet everything's there. |
| 19:30.21 | cheers | whoop |
| 19:30.23 | cheers | not config |
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| 19:30.27 | cheers | whatever it is for that mod. |
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| 19:31.11 | alcaras_ | anyone else getting a ton of errors with the last patch? |
| 19:31.30 | cheers | dear WebKit. Behave now, or I shall taunt you a second time. Love, Rachael. |
| 19:31.45 | Gandharva | alcaras_: nope |
| 19:31.47 | alcaras | yesterday's patch broke a ton of ace stuff :( |
| 19:32.03 | Gandharva | not for me |
| 19:32.21 | alcaras | Gandharva: on beta? |
| 19:32.38 | kergoth | i wonder if itd be useful to make a more modular version of aceoo, from a code standpoint. so that things like mixins and interfaces, or a change in inheritence, could be plugged in to alter behavior for whatever custom use is in mind |
| 19:32.55 | alcaras | location and performancefu simply disappeared :( |
| 19:33.08 | alcaras | err hrm |
| 19:33.10 | alcaras | they're lod |
| 19:33.13 | alcaras | and not loading now for some reason |
| 19:33.14 | Gandharva | jepp, on beta |
| 19:33.33 | alcaras | but yeah, lots of errors for me |
| 19:33.36 | Gandharva | only error was from Gratuity-2.0 |
| 19:33.48 | Gandharva | but thats fixed |
| 19:33.49 | Arrowmaster | so type /script LoadAddOn("FuBar_LocationFu") |
| 19:33.57 | alcaras | i'm seeing errors in gratuity, sanity, simpleminimap |
| 19:34.07 | alcaras | aceevent, aceaddon |
| 19:34.14 | Gandharva | did you update to the latest versions? |
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| 19:34.25 | alcaras | yes, using wau one minute ago |
| 19:34.28 | Gandharva | if not, do so. |
| 19:34.32 | kergoth | i presume theres no changelog for the new beta patch |
| 19:35.09 | Gandharva | kergoth: there are patchnotes at the forum |
| 19:35.10 | alcaras | gratuity is fixed? where? didn't get it on the wowaceupdate i just ran 1 min ago |
| 19:35.19 | Arrowmaster | kergoth: http://ace.pastey.net/3793 have fun |
| 19:35.22 | Gnarfoz | and unofficial notes on WoR |
| 19:35.29 | alcaras | bartender3 is throwing errors too :( |
| 19:35.32 | Gandharva | i commited the fix today in the afternoon |
| 19:35.35 | Gnarfoz | http://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2482 <- both, combined (offical + unofficial) |
| 19:35.42 | alcaras | where should i post these bugs? |
| 19:35.49 | alcaras | i don't know where the official ace bugtracker is nowadays |
| 19:35.54 | alcaras | wowace.com/trac doesn't work |
| 19:36.25 | Amadeo | I need more headset recommendations, guys :) |
| 19:37.09 | Arrowmaster | i cant wait for that hardware sound, i hope it fixes my sound problem where certain types of sounds randomly stop working because i think something else is using the same sound channels |
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| 19:37.35 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats what im about to ask - google groups anyone familiar with how to set up issue tracking |
| 19:37.54 | alcaras | cause yeah, my ui still works but is throwing tons of errors :( |
| 19:37.58 | Gnarfoz | Amadeo: Sennheiser PC-160 |
| 19:37.59 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:38.13 | alcaras | 15 unique ones |
| 19:38.35 | sylvanaar | vxi parrot |
| 19:38.37 | Amadeo | Gnarfoz: Do you have a pair? |
| 19:38.45 | kergoth | " * Fixed a freezing error when running two windowed clients at once. " |
| 19:38.46 | Gnarfoz | Amadeo: I do |
| 19:38.47 | Gandharva | AKG should sell headsets... |
| 19:38.48 | kergoth | that one bit me last night |
| 19:38.51 | haste | Amadeo: Steel sound 5H or something |
| 19:38.56 | Gnarfoz | AKG sells headsets, Gandharva, do they not? |
| 19:39.05 | Amadeo | haste: Those good too? |
| 19:39.18 | haste | I've used them for quite some time now at least |
| 19:39.27 | cheers | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.27 | Amadeo | oh, you have them? |
| 19:39.29 | Pkekyo | what battlegrounds gives the most honor nowadays? |
| 19:39.29 | Gandharva | no, they |
| 19:39.32 | alcaras | Gandharva: what revision is gratuity lib fix? |
| 19:39.37 | sylvanaar | Amadeo: vxi parrot |
| 19:39.38 | alcaras | i have r21556 atm |
| 19:39.48 | cheers | Pkekyo: AB if you're rollin' w/ a group |
| 19:39.53 | Amadeo | parrot!? |
| 19:39.56 | Amadeo | man you guys have lots of brands |
| 19:39.58 | Gandharva | http://www.akg.com |
| 19:39.59 | cheers | AV absolutely sucks, so I bet even pugging AB will be better |
| 19:39.59 | alcaras | it's possible that externals for xloot aren't updated yet |
| 19:40.03 | cheers | thx Gandharva |
| 19:40.04 | dreamss | rrdlua? reinventing the weel with sticks and rocks? |
| 19:40.08 | CIA-17 | 03nabucco * r21605 10NabuFiveSec/Libs/: |
| 19:40.08 | CIA-17 | NabuFiveSec: |
| 19:40.08 | CIA-17 | - fixed externals |
| 19:40.27 | alcaras | hrm |
| 19:40.32 | cheers | o.O audio stuff |
| 19:40.33 | alcaras | that's the latest revision of gratiutiy lib on wau |
| 19:40.37 | alcaras | stil getting errors :( |
| 19:40.47 | haste | Amadeo: http://www.hardware.no/tester/lyd/seks_hodesett/25324/3 << even thought you don't know norwegian, you can listen to a sound test of the mic and see images! |
| 19:40.52 | Pkekyo | cheers: no premade |
| 19:41.01 | Amadeo | haste: Awesome :) I don't know Norwegian, but I like Vikings! |
| 19:41.12 | cheers | Gandharva: do you know if there's such a thing as USB, wireless headsets? |
| 19:41.17 | *** join/#wowace Nabucco (n=chatzill@80-218-149-185.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:41.19 | Gandharva | K240 Studio - my headphone |
| 19:41.24 | Amadeo | cheers: I think just Bluetooth |
| 19:41.28 | cheers | >.< |
| 19:41.48 | alcaras | Q; where do i post bug reports? |
| 19:42.01 | Amadeo | haste: "Frekvenshull" mellom 3 og 4 kHz - what's that mean? |
| 19:42.16 | Soulless | http://ace.pastey.net/3827-14fb |
| 19:42.22 | haste | Amadeo: frequensy hole between 3 and 4 kHz |
| 19:42.26 | Amadeo | I see |
| 19:43.02 | Amadeo | sound quality is pretty good |
| 19:43.11 | Gandharva | alcaras: r21556 |
| 19:43.31 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21606 10MusicStream/ (. MusicStream.lua): |
| 19:43.31 | CIA-17 | MusicStream: |
| 19:43.31 | CIA-17 | -Reorganized and added a number of channels, see WoWAce Forums for channel list |
| 19:43.35 | *** join/#wowace Meltzer (n=Heron@81.193.7.136) |
| 19:44.41 | alcaras | Gandharva: same i'm running... still getting this error: and variations of it: http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5745/wowscrnshot122006143912qr9.jpg |
| 19:44.53 | Amadeo | Gandharva: AKG make good headphones |
| 19:45.08 | Amadeo | but those headsets look expensive :) |
| 19:45.08 | alcaras | attempt to index field 'Rlines' (a nil value) |
| 19:45.24 | Gandharva | mine was 130€ |
| 19:45.30 | Gandharva | but its woth it |
| 19:45.31 | cheers | yeah that's what I was thinking Amadeo |
| 19:45.33 | Fisker- | BEST AV EVER |
| 19:45.34 | Gandharva | +r |
| 19:45.43 | Amadeo | cheers: They look like something helicopter pilots use! |
| 19:45.48 | Fisker- | it started out with gates not being down due to lag |
| 19:45.56 | Fisker- | that was fucking win :P |
| 19:45.57 | Amadeo | Gandharva: Yours isn't a headset though, is it? |
| 19:45.58 | cheers | 170 bucks!?? geeze |
| 19:46.22 | alcaras | Gandharva: Gratuity-2.0-r21556:62: attempt to index field 'Rlines' (a nil value) is the error i'm getting |
| 19:46.29 | Gandharva | no, just a headphone. i use a standalone mic. |
| 19:46.38 | cheers | erm. |
| 19:46.50 | sylvanaar | will someone send me a gmail invite |
| 19:46.53 | Gandharva | alcaras: i don´t geht this error |
| 19:47.01 | alcaras | Gandharva: where should i report it? |
| 19:47.08 | cheers | sylvanaar: sure, msg me where to send it |
| 19:47.16 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.17 | Gandharva | forum?! |
| 19:47.24 | alcaras | no official bug posting thingie anymore? |
| 19:47.38 | alcaras | i.e. flyspray, trac all gone forever? |
| 19:47.41 | alcaras | ok, will post on forums then |
| 19:48.10 | sylvanaar | im a town in TBC - i lost my name |
| 19:48.17 | cheers | oh no! :( |
| 19:48.23 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 19:48.38 | haste | http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/casual/gchat.png << more guildchat madness :D |
| 19:48.42 | dreamss | bgfu does autojoin? |
| 19:48.48 | cheers | k sylvanaar, check your email |
| 19:48.48 | Fisker- | nope |
| 19:48.51 | Fisker- | automaton does though |
| 19:50.13 | dreamss | i guess av makes reading the chat frame harder |
| 19:50.25 | groll | lol ownded mom http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/99710064.htm |
| 19:51.03 | cheers | ohs nos! i only have 99 more gmail invites! |
| 19:51.07 | cheers | what shall I do! *sob* |
| 19:51.24 | Gandharva | hehe |
| 19:52.29 | kergoth | meh, why doesnt clearfont seem to chang ethe chat font for me, something odd is going on |
| 19:52.32 | kergoth | must be an addon interfering |
| 19:52.59 | Dekuna | haste: oSkin? :{ |
| 19:53.24 | Amadeo | kergoth: I've had a ton of addon problems ever since 2.0 :( |
| 19:53.36 | CIA-17 | 03Heron * r21607 10FuBar_HerbTracker/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:53.36 | CIA-17 | FuBar_HerbTracker: initial commit |
| 19:53.36 | CIA-17 | - Keep track of all your herbs |
| 19:54.33 | haste | Dekuna: .... |
| 19:55.15 | Amadeo | I hate how much spam I get in my Gmail account |
| 19:56.03 | Amadeo | Nothing I can do about it either...I get spam because of idiots who think my email account is their own |
| 19:56.08 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21608 10Chronometer/Data/Paladin.lua: |
| 19:56.08 | CIA-17 | Chronometer: |
| 19:56.08 | CIA-17 | - Removed "Lasting Judgement" (Paladin) since it doesn't exist anymore |
| 19:56.30 | Dekuna | haste: i'm getting tired of skinner and its abominations :( |
| 19:56.56 | cheers | Amadeo: me too >.< |
| 19:56.59 | alcaras | err wtf... apparently i have both Gratuity-2.0-r19201 and r21556 installed |
| 19:57.02 | alcaras | b/c i just got errors from both |
| 19:57.07 | cheers | found a guy who's name is the same as my fathers though ;) |
| 19:57.09 | sylvanaar | cheers: cheera thanks! |
| 19:57.14 | cheers | sylvanaar: welcome :D |
| 19:57.31 | CIA-17 | 03Heron * r21609 10/trunk/ (FuBar_HerbTracker/ FuBar_HerbTrackerFu/): Renamed remotely |
| 19:57.35 | Amadeo | cheers: Yeah...it's ridiculous, how do people screw up so bad? |
| 19:57.57 | cheers | Amadeo: rstanton could be richard, rachael, rebecca... and that's just in MY immediate family |
| 19:58.07 | cheers | it's pretty easy to goof |
| 19:58.10 | *** join/#wowace Tinhay (n=tinhay@85-124-111-187.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 19:58.47 | Amadeo | cheers: I don't mean just that...for example, someone will go get an insurance quote and put my email address in...or they'll order something from an online store, and they put my email address in... I get the mail |
| 19:59.05 | haste | Dekuna: yes, and I'm getting tired of you asking about it |
| 19:59.06 | cheers | Amadeo: dunno. you have to figure some of that is phishing |
| 19:59.47 | Dekuna | sorry |
| 20:00.05 | cheers | Amadeo: and some of it's typoes, and people not paying attention |
| 20:00.08 | Dekuna | i'm half joking anyways, but it would be nice |
| 20:00.14 | Amadeo | cheers: I dunno, I'm pretty good at weeding that out |
| 20:01.32 | haste | If it's something I truly hate, it's when people repeatidly ask when a new version of X is done and so on |
| 20:01.32 | *** join/#wowace Velkyn (n=sm@c-68-58-69-83.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 20:01.32 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=najklord@83.145.59.23) |
| 20:01.32 | Velkyn | Anyone know how to make pets use abilities from macros without using script? |
| 20:01.32 | Amadeo | cheers: I get lots of forwards from families and stuff |
| 20:01.32 | cheers | Velkyn: I can use /cast Intercept in a macro for my felguard, if that helps |
| 20:01.43 | rw3 | is there API for getting the type of Pet? |
| 20:01.53 | cheers | i haven't been able to remake my 1-button instructor MC macro though :( |
| 20:02.05 | cheers | rw3: there's a sticky in the mods & addons forum that says how i think... |
| 20:03.52 | *** join/#wowace kov` (i=x@81.209.175.31) |
| 20:03.53 | Velkyn | Well what I am trying is.. |
| 20:04.05 | rw3 | cheers: Uhm, what forum? :P |
| 20:04.05 | Velkyn | Before fight /focus seduce target |
| 20:04.09 | alcaras | anyway to force wau to get new externals? |
| 20:04.10 | Velkyn | Then in my seduce macro |
| 20:04.21 | Velkyn | ../target [target=focus] |
| 20:04.23 | alcaras | it's not updating gratuitylib in some addons :-/ |
| 20:04.34 | Velkyn | ../cast Seduction |
| 20:04.46 | Velkyn | ../p %t is seduced! |
| 20:04.55 | Velkyn | ../targetlasttarget |
| 20:04.59 | Velkyn | ../startattack |
| 20:04.59 | cheers | rw3: world of warcrafts forum in the macro & addons forum whatever ti's called |
| 20:05.02 | xlvii | can someone explain to me what this new 'focus' thing is? |
| 20:05.04 | Eej | uh |
| 20:05.04 | xlvii | >_> |
| 20:05.08 | Eej | why not just /cast [target=focus] Seduction |
| 20:05.09 | xlvii | is it basically, your target? |
| 20:05.10 | cheers | Velkyn: you can't be seduced AND attacking another target |
| 20:05.12 | Trancer | focus is like "Player Targets" |
| 20:05.25 | *** join/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 20:05.28 | Trancer | just for one player only and you can use it in a macro |
| 20:05.30 | Velkyn | ../startattack is for me, not for the suc |
| 20:05.40 | cheers | I see |
| 20:05.44 | cheers | sorry, :) |
| 20:05.50 | Velkyn | no worries there :) |
| 20:05.58 | cheers | can't you just do /cast [target=focus] seduce ? |
| 20:06.00 | Velkyn | I mean if thats whats making it not work right I can easily remove it |
| 20:06.01 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva_ (n=chatzill@dslb-088-065-132-088.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:06.04 | Eej | that's what i just said :| |
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| 20:06.17 | *** part/#wowace Velkyn (n=sm@c-68-58-69-83.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 20:06.21 | cheers | Velkyn: I'm not sure, my macro experence is limited to what I was reading trying to set up pet macros for MC |
| 20:06.25 | *** join/#wowace Velkyn (n=sm@c-68-58-69-83.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 20:07.29 | Velkyn | Damn DC'd |
| 20:07.31 | Velkyn | Anyhow.. |
| 20:07.42 | Velkyn | its the /targetlasttarget that isnt always working. |
| 20:07.46 | Eej | /cast [target=focus] Seduction |
| 20:07.57 | cheers | lol sorry Eej |
| 20:08.08 | Eej | :< |
| 20:08.57 | xlvii | can anyone hook me up with a macro that will target any target |
| 20:09.01 | xlvii | and shoot a crossbow? |
| 20:09.21 | cheers | xlvii: uh... why not just click the shoot button? |
| 20:09.23 | cheers | ;) |
| 20:09.34 | Eej | I don't understand the request |
| 20:09.36 | Dwellr | why doesnt /castsequence conjure water, conjure water, conjure water work? it only casts conjure water once |
| 20:09.36 | cheers | xlvii: but what you want is /target <whatever> /use Crossbow |
| 20:09.46 | cheers | Dwellr: you have t o hit it 3x I think... |
| 20:09.50 | alcaras | Dwellr: are you pressing it multiple times? |
| 20:09.52 | xlvii | cheers, i'm leveling my mates crossbows.. |
| 20:09.59 | alcaras | Dwellr: it's one button press per step of sequence |
| 20:10.01 | xlvii | cheers, i want to make it as simple as possible |
| 20:10.05 | Velkyn | So using the /cast [target=focus] seduction, how can I send the %t to the group? |
| 20:10.06 | Eej | uh |
| 20:10.06 | cheers | Dwellr: the way castsequence works is each time you hit it, you cast the next spell |
| 20:10.11 | Eej | go to Blasted Lands |
| 20:10.14 | cheers | xlvii: it doesn't get much more simple than <tab> hit shoot |
| 20:10.14 | Eej | find a Servant of whatever |
| 20:10.21 | Eej | kill it, run away, then spam crossbow |
| 20:10.21 | xlvii | cheer, true that |
| 20:10.43 | Aeliel | or if you're alliance, you can - yeah that |
| 20:10.45 | *** join/#wowace Tazmanyak (n=chatzill@ken66-1-82-242-249-106.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:10.50 | yacoob | spam crossbow. |
| 20:10.51 | yacoob | Ouch. |
| 20:10.58 | cheers | haha |
| 20:11.03 | kergoth | dinty moore beef stew ftw |
| 20:11.05 | yacoob | Imagine a crossbow making large cans of spam go at high speed at your target. |
| 20:11.09 | Aeliel | lol |
| 20:11.25 | cheers | Velkyn: next line is /p seducing %f (is f focus? t is target) |
| 20:11.42 | Velkyn | Now that might work! |
| 20:11.50 | cheers | Velkyn: :) |
| 20:11.56 | Velkyn | Nope :( |
| 20:11.56 | Dwellr | cheers / alcaras: no way to make it do all 3 ? |
| 20:11.59 | cheers | Velkyn: and then you don't lose YOUR target |
| 20:12.02 | cheers | Dwellr: no. |
| 20:12.03 | Arrowmaster | if not post on the UI forums requesting %f be added |
| 20:12.08 | cheers | Dwellr: that's exactly what blizz is trying to avoid. |
| 20:12.16 | cheers | Dwellr: 1 button press per watter summon |
| 20:12.31 | cheers | yaaay, new beta's in the wild :D |
| 20:12.37 | Dwellr | cheers: sigh, i kinda figured that it'd be sommat like that.. guess Im doomed to 20 pointless casts every login |
| 20:12.45 | cheers | Dwellr: it's not THAT bad :P |
| 20:12.47 | weab | waaah |
| 20:12.50 | cheers | if it was pointless, you wouldn't do it |
| 20:13.24 | cheers | Dwellr: what you reallyu want is something that cast water 3x, then drank, or something like that ;) |
| 20:13.35 | weab | i'll gladly take your water/food summoning ability since it's such a burden to you. |
| 20:13.38 | kenlyric|work | screw that. Waterwell |
| 20:13.42 | cheers | lol |
| 20:13.54 | cheers | kenlyric|work: they can't do that, then no one would take mages anywhere! ;) |
| 20:14.04 | Dwellr | cheers: every time i login, join up to lbrs/ubrs, have to summon 200+ water, 60+ food, mana ruby, mana citrine, arcane brilliance, mana shield, etc.. takes a fair while |
| 20:14.06 | kenlyric|work | uh. the mages would cast waterwell. |
| 20:14.20 | sylvanaar | yeah, i think using google for issue tracking may well work out, i suppose any other open-source site would too. is there a free-hosted tracker anywhere? |
| 20:14.29 | cheers | Dwellr: the bf's a mage. I know how it is. it's not THAT bad. |
| 20:14.30 | kenlyric|work | there's already lolwell and soulwell. |
| 20:14.35 | alcaras | Dwellr: one of the reasons i stopped playing my mage :p |
| 20:14.45 | weab | isn't waterwell redundant |
| 20:14.45 | cheers | kenlyric|work: hehe me & em were playing hide-the-lolwell the other night in naxx :D |
| 20:15.00 | Feldia | why would you waste even a single talent point on that shitty spell |
| 20:15.07 | kenlyric|work | I saw a lolwell once. |
| 20:15.15 | Feldia | I spam click them anytime I see them |
| 20:15.17 | kenlyric|work | I did lol, so it worked. |
| 20:15.19 | cheers | Feldia: it's not so bad after this last update |
| 20:15.20 | snurre- | hm.. it should be possible to choose skin for bars in Skinner, so I can get Smooth instead of the Glossy thingy |
| 20:15.21 | Feldia | just to teach the shortbus priest to respec |
| 20:15.27 | cheers | Feldia: and noth just raids |
| 20:15.31 | cheers | so it's useful |
| 20:15.31 | kenlyric|work | wait, there was a change in 2.0? |
| 20:15.37 | cheers | kenlyric|work: to lolwell? yeah |
| 20:15.42 | Dhraga | FuBar - Factionfu Error on mouseover : http://pastey.net/3829 |
| 20:15.42 | cheers | now the healing is done over 2 big ticks |
| 20:15.47 | cheers | so less chacne for it to get knocked off by dmg |
| 20:15.50 | cheers | and the cooldown's shorter |
| 20:15.50 | kenlyric|work | spirit of redemption got better, but I didn't see anything to lightwell. |
| 20:15.53 | cheers | and i THINK it got cheaper |
| 20:15.55 | kenlyric|work | hmmm. |
| 20:16.02 | cheers | and SoR got decent, finally |
| 20:16.07 | Feldia | all I do is raid as well |
| 20:16.09 | Feldia | it isn't worth speccing |
| 20:16.12 | Dwellr | cheers: heh.. not too bad no.. just a real pita.. not like Im trying to automate combat spells, or cash .. just get me setup to avoid dying.. =) |
| 20:16.15 | cheers | so I get to giggle over turning into a purdy angel every time i die |
| 20:16.21 | kenlyric|work | my primary problem was with the several ticks. |
| 20:16.26 | cheers | kenlyric|work: exactly |
| 20:16.34 | cheers | dropping it to 2 ticks makes it worthwhile, in my opinion |
| 20:16.41 | cheers | Feldia obviously disagrees, but :shrug:' |
| 20:16.45 | Feldia | how? it's still just a glorified bandage |
| 20:16.55 | sylvanaar | a |
| 20:16.58 | cheers | Feldia: on as eperate cooldown |
| 20:17.02 | kenlyric|work | a heal is a heal. |
| 20:17.06 | cheers | exactly. |
| 20:17.12 | kenlyric|work | it's a VERY efficient heal.. if it works. |
| 20:17.23 | cheers | kenlyric|work: know if you can drop em before the loatheb fight starts? |
| 20:17.25 | Eej | wait what |
| 20:17.28 | Eej | what's bad about Lightwell |
| 20:17.28 | sylvanaar | well, im going to play wow now (for real this time). see you guys later |
| 20:17.28 | Feldia | yes you can |
| 20:17.32 | kenlyric|work | of course, pre 70 it takes away from divine spirit, so screw it. |
| 20:17.41 | cheers | lol |
| 20:17.50 | Eej | it's pretty good for a lot of things |
| 20:17.59 | Feldia | like what? |
| 20:18.00 | kenlyric|work | cheers, can I come to your server? I only ever got to instructor razuvious :) |
| 20:18.01 | Eej | like Loatheb, Patchwerk and Thaddius |
| 20:18.09 | kenlyric|work | *spirit bitch. |
| 20:18.11 | Eej | 4horsemen too if you put one down in the middle |
| 20:18.18 | Feldia | empowered healing and clearcasting are good for everything |
| 20:18.20 | kenlyric|work | I'm more properly termed spirit whore. |
| 20:18.21 | Feldia | light well is garbage |
| 20:18.25 | kenlyric|work | I have 270 spirit at level 50. |
| 20:18.39 | cheers | empowered healing is... meh. |
| 20:18.41 | Eej | well, I was talking pre 2.0 anyhow |
| 20:18.49 | Eej | since that was the only time our priests had lightwell |
| 20:18.50 | kenlyric|work | clearcasting is only useful if you are getting hit. |
| 20:18.53 | Feldia | empowered healing is "meh" if you're a flash heal spammer |
| 20:18.53 | cheers | I'll sac a point out of that for added utility, easly |
| 20:19.00 | kenlyric|work | wait, am I thinking of the right talent? |
| 20:19.05 | Eej | and it was pretty amazing for Warlock DPS on PW |
| 20:19.05 | cheers | kenlyric|work: no |
| 20:19.08 | Feldia | no you are not kenlyric|work |
| 20:19.09 | cheers | kenlyric|work: you're not ;) |
| 20:19.23 | cheers | kenlyric|work: clear casting is the 6% chance for free spell |
| 20:19.28 | Feldia | warlock dps? are your healers not capable of hitting locks with renews / rejuvs? |
| 20:19.28 | cheers | for a free flash or Gheal rather |
| 20:19.31 | kenlyric|work | it's been a month since I've had to worry about those two trees. |
| 20:19.36 | cheers | Feldia: how many healers d o you run with? |
| 20:19.42 | Feldia | 14-15 |
| 20:19.44 | cheers | we carry 10-13 |
| 20:19.49 | Feldia | patchwerk dies in <5 minutes |
| 20:19.56 | Eej | back in the day when we were learning Naxx, no, they didn't have time |
| 20:19.58 | Feldia | typically 4:30 |
| 20:20.02 | Eej | except for when 8/8 Wrath bugged out kek |
| 20:20.18 | Feldia | 4h we run as high as 17 heales I believe |
| 20:20.28 | cheers | :shrug: to each their own. |
| 20:20.31 | rw3 | cheers: humm forums seem down :( |
| 20:20.36 | cheers | we find uses for it, so we spec it now and again |
| 20:20.39 | cheers | rw3: sucktasmal :( |
| 20:20.54 | cheers | rw3: I'm sorry, I even knew that |
| 20:20.59 | cheers | I just didn't think of it when I sent you there |
| 20:21.21 | cheers | dude.. adium... |
| 20:21.24 | cheers | no more with the crashing. |
| 20:21.29 | rw3 | Mmyeah. Anyone else know how to get pet types with API? |
| 20:21.35 | rw3 | Specifically warlock pets |
| 20:21.54 | Eej | but then again no one is healing specced anymore so i dunno |
| 20:23.04 | Soulless | how do you truncate a string? |
| 20:23.15 | Soulless | string.sub? |
| 20:23.19 | Arrowmaster | rw3 its on wowwiki under the unit functions |
| 20:23.24 | kenlyric|work | holy crap they buffed lightwell. |
| 20:23.32 | alcaras | Gandharva: i fixed my problem btw |
| 20:23.47 | alcaras | Gandharva: had an older version of GL loading because WAU didn't update externals inside addons that didn't have updated :-/ |
| 20:23.47 | Arrowmaster | rw3: UnitCreatureType() i think |
| 20:24.02 | Teomyr | rw3: UnitCreatureFamily("pet") |
| 20:24.10 | cheers | kenlyric|work: told you ;) |
| 20:24.27 | Gandharva | alcaras: :) |
| 20:24.27 | Teomyr | rw3: returns "Voidwalker", "Imp", "Succubus" etc. |
| 20:24.31 | Xuerian | Soulless: local truncated = string.sub(string, start[, end]) |
| 20:24.31 | kenlyric|work | my problem.. I have 28 points in holy... have no idea how to get 2 more useful ones :) |
| 20:24.45 | Trancer | kenlyric|work: remove all 28 ^^ |
| 20:24.50 | cheers | lol |
| 20:24.57 | Arrowmaster | improved divine spirit > * |
| 20:25.06 | Teomyr | rw3: but it's localized, therefore "Leerwandler", "Wichtel", "Sukkubus" in deDE client for example |
| 20:25.11 | Trancer | yeah, with the inner focus bug it's very pleasant Arrowmaster :D |
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| 20:25.28 | Feldia | kenlyric|work: you're leveling holy specced? |
| 20:25.31 | kenlyric|work | yes, at 60 I will have 23/28. Just trying to figure out beyond that. |
| 20:25.34 | Feldia | do you enjoy pain? |
| 20:25.37 | alcaras | did live get a patch yesterday? |
| 20:25.38 | kenlyric|work | no, I'm all shadow now. |
| 20:25.47 | Arrowmaster | now that i actually have a reason to like spirit on my warlock ill actually try and get spirit buffs |
| 20:26.05 | Trancer | Arrowmaster: if your priest refuses to give it, tell him he sucks :o |
| 20:26.06 | Feldia | Arrowmaster: how much spirit does your warlock have? like 120? |
| 20:26.18 | Feldia | with raid buffs you get at most what, 200? |
| 20:26.21 | weab | Trancer: that'll definitely ensure you get it. |
| 20:26.23 | Feldia | that's an extra +10 damage |
| 20:26.24 | Feldia | wow! |
| 20:26.27 | Gandharva | alcaras: thats why i use standalonlibraries |
| 20:26.31 | Arrowmaster | 20 |
| 20:26.40 | alcaras | Gandharva: aye, i just switched to using standalonelibs |
| 20:26.41 | Trancer | Arrowmaster: inner focus is bugged, if the priest activates it, he can cast divine spirit on the whole for free.. and keep his IF :S |
| 20:26.41 | Feldia | oh yea 2 points |
| 20:26.42 | Feldia | 20 |
| 20:26.44 | Trancer | weab: yeah :P |
| 20:27.01 | alcaras | Gandharva: sorry for the false alarm, turned out well in the end (i found out and started using standalonelibs!) |
| 20:27.02 | Arrowmaster | and i was even begging for mistletoe buffs for an extra 2 spell damage, thats how much of a +dmg whore i am |
| 20:27.07 | Gandharva | np :) |
| 20:27.31 | Trancer | well if your gear has 0 +dmg and you got 120 spirit, any bit of +dmg is a boost ^^ |
| 20:28.11 | Arrowmaster | i was up to 703 +dmg because of imp ds, with my toep still equiped and not activated |
| 20:28.41 | Feldia | +damage or +shadow damage |
| 20:28.44 | Arrowmaster | shadow |
| 20:28.53 | kenlyric|work | I'm thinking holy reach for those last two points, or maybe spiritual healing. |
| 20:28.58 | Arrowmaster | im at 681 right now in the exact same gear |
| 20:29.09 | Feldia | meh, weak imo |
| 20:29.15 | Feldia | for a warlock anyway |
| 20:29.28 | Arrowmaster | 0 aq40 or naxx gear |
| 20:29.38 | Arrowmaster | and still one of the best geared locks on the server =) |
| 20:29.39 | Feldia | ctprofile? |
| 20:30.15 | Arrowmaster | http://ctprofiles.net/71260 |
| 20:31.16 | Feldia | oh I see, you're trying to be a shadow mage |
| 20:31.17 | Feldia | heh |
| 20:31.24 | CrisCr0sss | why isnt auditor_fu added to the SVN? |
| 20:31.36 | Feldia | barely more hp than priests! |
| 20:31.47 | Arrowmaster | im not a shadowmage |
| 20:31.51 | Arrowmaster | im affliction spec |
| 20:31.59 | kenlyric|work | uh, My priest had more HP than that. |
| 20:32.21 | kenlyric|work | or maybe it was 3000.... |
| 20:32.24 | Feldia | yea I kinda doubt that kenlyric|work |
| 20:32.28 | kenlyric|work | what th hell is HP? ;) |
| 20:32.46 | Feldia | 4k hp on a warlock makes me sad |
| 20:33.05 | Arrowmaster | 4.5k |
| 20:33.16 | Tornhoof | still sad ;) |
| 20:33.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 20:33.29 | Feldia | 4084 |
| 20:33.30 | Feldia | not 4.5k |
| 20:33.31 | Arrowmaster | i used to break 7k with raid buffs |
| 20:33.36 | Arrowmaster | 4.5k with imp |
| 20:33.36 | kenlyric|work | and 681 shadow damage. |
| 20:34.40 | Feldia | http://ctprofiles.net/1982460 almost 5k hp, and nearly 800 shadow damage :P |
| 20:34.53 | Arrowmaster | i could increase my hp by putting on other gear like more nemesis but im a damage whore |
| 20:35.17 | kenlyric|work | yeah, and also in Naxx gear. |
| 20:35.21 | Feldia | ;) |
| 20:35.44 | kenlyric|work | Atiesh. I officially envy you. |
| 20:35.44 | Mikma | can anyone give me a good leveling-build for warlock in 2.0? |
| 20:35.51 | Feldia | it isn't me, that's a guilded warlock |
| 20:35.55 | kenlyric|work | that staff clearly needs +20 spirit on it. |
| 20:36.12 | Arrowmaster | Mikma: affliction |
| 20:36.13 | Feldia | now he is a +dmg whore! |
| 20:36.37 | Arrowmaster | i want those pants |
| 20:36.39 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: more specific please, talentpoints would be appreciated :) |
| 20:36.49 | Arrowmaster | Mikma: darkpact |
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| 20:37.17 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: even more specific please... like, www.wowhead.com or so |
| 20:37.23 | phyber | Kirkburn|afk: does CF2 not need the main Fonts dir anymore? |
| 20:37.27 | phyber | WoW/Fonts |
| 20:37.27 | Arrowmaster | here checkout my talents http://ctprofiles.net/71260 |
| 20:37.46 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:38.04 | kenlyric|work | my predicted 70 spec. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=bxT0zhxzbZfxtcc0qcuc I don't really like having unfinished talents, but I don't see any other way to do it. |
| 20:38.10 | Gnarfoz | hey ckk |
| 20:38.45 | ckknight | my mouth hurts |
| 20:39.01 | Feldia | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=dxG0zhZfExccMqVhV |
| 20:39.04 | Feldia | that will be my 70 spec |
| 20:39.09 | Feldia | provided my role in raids doesn't change |
| 20:39.11 | Kirkburn|afk | phyber, "<SoLoR> it helps with addons that are forcing default fonts (ag_uf, sct....)" |
| 20:39.50 | Kirkburn|afk | It's as neccessary as it ever was (i.e. not particularly, but it can help) |
| 20:39.58 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r21610 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_BidWatch.lua): |
| 20:39.58 | CIA-17 | Fence: |
| 20:39.58 | CIA-17 | - allowed a higher amount (99g = 990000) |
| 20:40.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Just waiting for Hogfather Part 2 to finish atm : |
| 20:40.28 | Kirkburn|afk | :P |
| 20:40.30 | phyber | Kirkburn|afk: ahh, ok :) just that I saw nothing about it and there used to be the "Main fonts dir" directory. |
| 20:40.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, I might get around to doing some info updates later |
| 20:41.39 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21611 10PlayerMenu/PlayerMenu.lua: |
| 20:41.40 | CIA-17 | PlayerMenu: |
| 20:41.40 | CIA-17 | - Disabled Guild Invite due to Errors |
| 20:41.45 | Nickenyfiken | someone create a Help section on the forum |
| 20:42.06 | Nickenyfiken | and maintain a FAQ :-P |
| 20:42.19 | tlund | is playermenu something that pops up when you right-click someones name in the chatframe? |
| 20:42.26 | Nickenyfiken | tlund: yup |
| 20:42.32 | Arrowmaster | Mikma: i can give you a wowhead link if you tell me an estimated level |
| 20:42.33 | tlund | Nickenyfiken: cool, thanks. |
| 20:43.05 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: lol, 20 :P i'll just look at your build :D |
| 20:43.15 | Arrowmaster | heh ok |
| 20:43.39 | Feldia | kenlyric|work: you might want to rethink putting those points into mental agility, absolution is vastly superior in most situations |
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| 20:44.29 | kenlyric|work | are you horde? |
| 20:44.32 | Feldia | no |
| 20:44.35 | kenlyric|work | hmmmm. |
| 20:44.36 | Feldia | why is that a factor |
| 20:44.41 | kenlyric|work | what would you be doing abolishing disease? |
| 20:44.42 | ckknight | somebody drugged me and stole my wisdom teeth. It hurts |
| 20:44.48 | Feldia | and dispelling...? |
| 20:44.49 | ckknight | I should play WoW... |
| 20:44.52 | kenlyric|work | and dispelling. |
| 20:45.06 | Feldia | just list off the instant cast spells that you cast often in raids |
| 20:45.09 | kergoth | ckknight: yes, killing things always helps |
| 20:45.16 | Feldia | and then prioritize them |
| 20:45.17 | kenlyric|work | renew and sw:p |
| 20:45.25 | kenlyric|work | Renew and shield. easily. |
| 20:45.26 | Feldia | oh yea, sw:p has a huge impact on the raid |
| 20:45.28 | Feldia | take that shit off your list |
| 20:45.29 | Feldia | heh |
| 20:45.31 | ckknight | I figure that WoW's a good distraction as any |
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| 20:45.42 | ckknight | and I don't want to do any major thinking, so no addon development for me |
| 20:45.45 | ckknight | at least not now |
| 20:45.47 | kenlyric|work | a heck of a lot more than dispel magic. |
| 20:45.51 | ckknight | and everything is pretty much in place |
| 20:45.57 | Feldia | are you serious....? |
| 20:46.01 | ckknight | Cartographer is practically complete |
| 20:46.13 | snurre- | is there a mapnotes thingy for carto? |
| 20:46.16 | ckknight | yes. |
| 20:46.20 | snurre- | sweet |
| 20:46.27 | Feldia | nvm I guess, come back to me when yo'uve actually raided on a priest |
| 20:46.36 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r21612 10Capping/localization.lua: |
| 20:46.36 | CIA-17 | Capping |
| 20:46.36 | CIA-17 | - fixed base localization error |
| 20:46.39 | kenlyric|work | um, have you heard of a paladin? |
| 20:46.47 | Arrowmaster | Mikma: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzrV0b to http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzrVRfkVz, use dots and drainlife |
| 20:46.50 | Feldia | what about them? |
| 20:46.57 | kenlyric|work | my dispel magics rarely succeed. |
| 20:47.01 | Feldia | just because paladins exist doesn't mean you don't dispell all of a sudden |
| 20:47.06 | kenlyric|work | because they've already gotten to them. |
| 20:47.09 | Feldia | nvm I guess, come back to me when yo'uve actually raided on a priest |
| 20:47.30 | Feldia | no point in debating with someone who has zero experience |
| 20:47.33 | kenlyric|work | I have raided on a priest. |
| 20:47.57 | Feldia | on your level 50 priest? |
| 20:48.04 | kenlyric|work | I also dispelled on that priest. It just didn't succeed frequently. |
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| 20:48.28 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: thanks :) |
| 20:48.35 | kenlyric|work | yes, I raided AQ40 on my level 50 priest. I am teh uber! |
| 20:48.45 | Feldia | w/e I guess I don't know anything |
| 20:48.52 | Feldia | 180d played on my priest, and raided every zone in the game |
| 20:48.55 | Arrowmaster | Mikma: and dont put more than 1/5 in shadow embrace |
| 20:49.08 | kenlyric|work | I'm not quite sure why you decided to be an ass about this. |
| 20:49.35 | Mikma | Arrowmaster: okiedokie :) |
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| 20:55.18 | kergoth | sleeeeepy |
| 20:55.25 | cheers | wakey wakey kergoth ;) |
| 20:57.38 | Feldia | winner for the wowhead contest was chosen, for anyone who cares |
| 20:57.48 | Feldia | "phaydre" won |
| 20:58.02 | kergoth | mmm coffee, i walk up to starbucks |
| 20:59.15 | kergoth | cept i'm down to under $500 in the bank, trying to stall all expenses until my first paycheck (including presents.. :\) |
| 21:00.09 | cheers | kergoth: they don't have coffee @ your place? |
| 21:00.29 | kergoth | crappy stuff, i'm a picky bastard |
| 21:00.48 | weab | starbucks = picky? |
| 21:00.50 | cheers | lol no bitching then :P |
| 21:01.21 | Gnarfoz | ~coffee kergoth |
| 21:01.23 | purl | ACTION steals some of Pkekyo's special coffee and gives it to kergoth on a silver platter. |
| 21:02.16 | kergoth | http://beefinthecity.blogspot.com/2006/12/wrapture.html - some people have too much time on their hands |
| 21:02.23 | kergoth | weab: well, somewhat :P |
| 21:02.27 | kergoth | not as much as many |
| 21:03.23 | weab | it was mostly intended as a jab at starbucks. i'm the opposite of picky |
| 21:03.50 | cheers | lol |
| 21:03.54 | Aeliel | I remember seeing photos of somebody doing that (to an entire flat, IIRC) with tin foil |
| 21:04.02 | cheers | much love for barista's.. making espresso's a pain |
| 21:04.36 | ckknight | Interface\FrameXML\FloatingChatFrame.lua:890: attempt to index global 'SELECTED_DOCK_FRAME' (a nil value): |
| 21:04.37 | ckknight | <string>:"UIParent:OnUpdate":4: in function <[string "UIParent:OnUpdate"]:1> |
| 21:04.38 | ckknight | blah |
| 21:04.52 | rw3 | is there a fancy way of preventing updates due to multiple event triggers in succession? |
| 21:05.11 | kergoth | i want an espresso machine, but i'm too lazy to put tha tmuch work into it, so i'd need one of those $600 "press one button" ones |
| 21:05.34 | rw3 | I need all the events that I've registered but sometimes three run in a row which uses resources that wouldn't need to be used |
| 21:05.37 | AKX^ | What was the index PHP script /files/ used before the current system? |
| 21:05.49 | weab | i hope that idiot taped up all the fanholes too. |
| 21:06.09 | Mikk | rw3: just get the timestamp when the last one happened and don't run all the code again if it's too soon? |
| 21:06.35 | Aeliel | http://www.blacktable.com/elder040114.htm - for the "too much time on somebody's hands" file |
| 21:06.44 | kergoth | rw3: see aceevent's event bucket registration |
| 21:06.44 | AKX^ | AKX^: snif, http://www.bitfolge.de/snif-en.html |
| 21:06.47 | AKX^ | AKX^, thanks ^^ |
| 21:06.48 | kergoth | rw3: afaik its for exactly that |
| 21:07.03 | Mikk | kergoth: tbfh, a plain old espresso machine with a manually loaded handle is _not_ much work. less than a regular coffee maker (imho) and gets the job done a lot quicker. |
| 21:07.23 | Mikk | plus, of course, it's espresso :> |
| 21:07.28 | kergoth | hmm, maybe i'll pick one up then |
| 21:07.33 | rw3 | Mikk: hmmh, that's a bit tricky since sometimes the first event will suffice but during some other events that trigger in succession only the last event will have the updated info.. grr. |
| 21:07.43 | kergoth | course the heavenly smell will annoy the hell out of my gf, who hates coffee |
| 21:07.45 | kergoth | but.. :) |
| 21:07.56 | rw3 | Like.. after combat player_target_changed procs but I will need player_regen_enabled before all the info is correct |
| 21:08.12 | rw3 | :X |
| 21:08.28 | Mikk | rw3: pick up changed info in events, process on the next OnUpdate |
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| 21:09.35 | Mikk | kergoth: of course, i'm talking about ready-ground coffee here. it's more work if you're actually going to grind fresh beans for each damn cup you're making. and that's too much work for me too :> |
| 21:09.43 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 21:10.29 | Mikk | i just buy lavazza. people keep telling me that it'll not taste as good at the bottom of the can since "it will be exposed to air for too long" |
| 21:10.35 | Mikk | but tbh, that's never a problem for me + my gf. |
| 21:10.44 | Mikk | we never let it sit around unused for that long :> |
| 21:10.47 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:10.49 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:10.52 | hypergear | what causes simplelogcombat to disappear sometimes? |
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| 21:11.59 | kergoth | i need to do something about my soda and caffeine intake, its insane. 6 sodas (of which some are likely mt dew) and a couple coffees a day if i can pull it off. damn soda isnt helping the old spare tire |
| 21:12.03 | kergoth | empty calories ftl |
| 21:13.03 | cheers | kergoth: I got a water bottle that I set at my desk and fill out of the cooler once or twice a day |
| 21:13.19 | kergoth | thats a good way to go |
| 21:13.22 | cheers | drinking soda's mostly a nervous fidget for me, so the bottle works just as good & is less... awfultastic |
| 21:13.33 | kergoth | water's so boring though, i like those fruit2o or propel things, but they're overpriced |
| 21:13.50 | cheers | :shrug: |
| 21:13.53 | cheers | speaking of which |
| 21:14.52 | kergoth | unfortunately its not just a fidget for me, i get a dry throat and dehydrate if i get less than 4 or 5 drinks a day |
| 21:15.13 | cheers | sodas won't help that, though |
| 21:15.55 | kergoth | yeah.. need caffeine to stay awake but its problematic otherwise |
| 21:17.02 | Fisker- | who needs caffeine to stay awake? |
| 21:17.05 | Fisker- | Go do some more av's |
| 21:17.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:17.18 | Fisker- | oh nors durnk on teh internet |
| 21:17.25 | kergoth | i'm a programmer, caffeine is my lifeblood |
| 21:17.40 | Fisker- | i'm a programmer |
| 21:17.45 | ckknight | kergoth, so am I, but I don't drink caffeine |
| 21:18.30 | kergoth | well, i do my best coding in the right mood, in a contiguous period of time, and if that time is late at night, which it often is... |
| 21:18.36 | yacoob | beware of programmers who carry screwdriver.. |
| 21:18.42 | Dhraga | Xuerian, have you got a sec ? |
| 21:19.42 | Dhraga | Hmmm maby not here |
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| 21:21.41 | Fisker- | bah |
| 21:21.44 | Fisker- | my WoW is bugged again |
| 21:21.46 | Dhraga | A question then to anyone that might know... If I'm to call open the XLootOptions frame from a Fubar plugin, wich id the line / lines I should use ? Xloot.lua=http://pastey.net/3830 |
| 21:21.48 | Dhraga | I have tried the dewdrop:Open(UIParent, 'children', XLootSetupFrames, 'cursorX', true, 'cursorY', true) |
| 21:21.49 | Dhraga | but I think I'm missing something... anyone know ? |
| 21:21.54 | Fisker- | av's are like 10FPS now because spell effects persists |
| 21:22.04 | Fisker- | pisses me off |
| 21:24.31 | kergoth | gotta love polls. "83 percent -- believe that a typical 12-year-old knows more about the Internet than their member of Congress" |
| 21:24.47 | Aeliel | rofl |
| 21:24.51 | juanvaldes | lol |
| 21:25.54 | Aeliel | now I'm curious about what would happen if somebody went and asked internet-related questions to typical 12-year-olds and members of Congress |
| 21:26.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:26.19 | kergoth | i dont think i want to know |
| 21:26.22 | juanvaldes | tubes! |
| 21:26.30 | kenlyric|work | define "knows about the Internet". |
| 21:26.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:26.33 | CIA-17 | 03weab * r21613 10Automaton/ (31 files in 4 dirs): Automaton: Renaming modules - prefixing all of them with Auto started to seem silly now that there are so many |
| 21:26.34 | waffle | you can't just dump it on something. |
| 21:26.37 | kenlyric|work | what does a 12-year old know beyond myspace? |
| 21:26.42 | waffle | AIM |
| 21:26.46 | ckknight | yea, AIM |
| 21:26.55 | Aeliel | depends on the 12-year-old |
| 21:26.56 | kenlyric|work | ask them about IPSec. |
| 21:26.58 | ckknight | you know what? Congress might not know as much as that. |
| 21:27.04 | kenlyric|work | they'll all glaze over. |
| 21:27.18 | kenlyric|work | oh, Congress knows all about AIM :) |
| 21:27.22 | kenlyric|work | well, they do now. |
| 21:27.25 | waffle | haha. |
| 21:27.26 | kergoth | my bro at least knew what ftp was and how to use an ftp app at 12, thats something |
| 21:27.27 | juanvaldes | I'm sure they know that their aids print out their email....I hope |
| 21:27.43 | ckknight | kergoth, I knew how to write a mIRC script to download porn at 12. |
| 21:27.50 | CIA-17 | 03weab * r21614 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/ (AutoGossip.lua AutoGossipData.lua Gossip.lua GossipData.lua): Automaton: Second commit, since a directory needed renamed along with files within it. |
| 21:28.08 | Aeliel | ckknight: I wonder if that would be considered "a typical 12-year-old" ;) |
| 21:28.15 | ckknight | doubt it |
| 21:28.25 | Aeliel | maybe the "download porn" part of it... >_> |
| 21:28.29 | juanvaldes | maybe in this channel...but not america |
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| 21:28.45 | Saroz | ok |
| 21:28.52 | Saroz | I need a mod to stack my bags and shit |
| 21:28.55 | Saroz | guild bank is a mess |
| 21:28.57 | Saroz | any mod? |
| 21:29.05 | waffle | MrPlow |
| 21:29.08 | waffle | it will change your life |
| 21:29.09 | Aeliel | ^ what he said |
| 21:29.13 | STiAT | a script for downloading porn? that's actually something with 12 :D |
| 21:29.14 | ckknight | hrm, is anyone a developer that's not in #wowace-dev? |
| 21:29.19 | Saroz | doesn't it sort? |
| 21:29.29 | waffle | it stacks and sorts |
| 21:29.34 | weab | i suppose i am. I didn't know it existed |
| 21:29.35 | Saroz | k |
| 21:29.46 | STiAT | i'm developer, just not of ace2, but of ace addons :p |
| 21:30.07 | cheers | ckknight: about to make a big announcement or smething? |
| 21:30.14 | ckknight | no |
| 21:30.14 | Aeliel | not me, just random user / addon fangirl :p |
| 21:30.30 | Saroz | drama! |
| 21:30.42 | ckknight | STiAT, I don't remember seeing you before... |
| 21:31.37 | weab | by developer you mean authors rather than actual ace2 developers i presume? |
| 21:31.37 | STiAT | well, started addon development late, ace2 since about 2 month, never have taken my ass to wowace, usually, i program on archlinux |
| 21:31.56 | ckknight | yes, weab |
| 21:31.58 | STiAT | just made ~6 addons at all |
| 21:32.09 | ckknight | for any addon developers that use Ace2 or the Ace philosophy |
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| 21:32.51 | STiAT | i like ace2, it's addon making plug&play |
| 21:33.04 | KarlThePagan | new OutfitterFu feature - "Hide Missing" will hide outfits in the tooltip that are missing items |
| 21:33.07 | ckknight | hehe |
| 21:33.09 | ckknight | yep |
| 21:33.12 | KarlThePagan | will commit as soon as i'm hope |
| 21:33.16 | KarlThePagan | *home |
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| 21:40.07 | Takorou | hi |
| 21:42.21 | cheers | hi :) |
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| 21:50.58 | Hjalte | Is there an ace2 mod that can display the item icon in it's tooltip? Mendeleev? |
| 21:51.56 | waffle | idcard i think? |
| 21:52.04 | waffle | I know mendeleev doesn't |
| 21:52.12 | MoonWolf | idcard does. |
| 21:52.19 | MoonWolf | its not in mendeleevs scope. |
| 21:52.41 | Hjalte | Oh, okay. I'll try out idcard. Thanks guys. |
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| 21:56.23 | Eternally777 | Is there a way to access a function's local variable index? Kinda like what getfenv(0) lets you do? |
| 21:56.33 | kergoth | you mean like getfenv(1)? |
| 21:56.35 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:56.37 | kergoth | rtfm |
| 21:56.41 | Eternally777 | I did |
| 21:56.45 | Eternally777 | And I'm trying that in game |
| 21:56.53 | UE|Daemona | damn, sometime i wished i knew what going on in a blizz dev head when they create an encounter like Nightbane -- |
| 21:56.56 | Eternally777 | But it's returning the same as getfenv(0) |
| 21:57.00 | cheers | UE|Daemona: ? |
| 21:57.07 | kergoth | of course it is. |
| 21:57.18 | kergoth | each function doenst get its own environment unless you give it one |
| 21:57.28 | Eternally777 | Oic |
| 21:57.33 | UE|Daemona | what makes a person create an encounter where it spawns 6 non-tankable mobs that have 1k aoe immolation |
| 21:57.37 | UE|Daemona | in a 10man instance |
| 21:57.49 | UE|Daemona | in a room like 20x10 yards |
| 21:58.00 | Aeliel | somebody who wants people to learn to pay attention to their surroundings? *shrug* |
| 21:58.00 | Eternally777 | And would doing that cause any negative impact in performance? |
| 21:58.23 | UE|Daemona | you cant avoid it, you cant tank it and range dps is ... is a big brain fart |
| 21:58.41 | kergoth | 1) ram usage, 2) every global you try to call from that function will fail, unless you've put those things in the function environment too, or made your function env inherit the global one via __index |
| 22:00.06 | cheers | UE|Daemona: osunds... pleasant ;) |
| 22:00.19 | Amadeo | Any new AutoBar replacements besides Gello or Toadkiller's? |
| 22:00.50 | Aeliel | sounds like an encounter that will be fun :] |
| 22:00.51 | cheers | lol |
| 22:00.51 | kergoth | i like toadkillers myself |
| 22:00.51 | kergoth | works well |
| 22:01.08 | Amadeo | I have to do a lot of configuring with it, I miss old simple AutoBar |
| 22:01.13 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r21615 10Skinner/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned Hadar_FocusFrame & Converse; Fixed Clique bug; Fixed SuperMacro bug; Reworked skinning of StanceSets |
| 22:01.24 | STiAT | hmh, i like cooldowncount, waiting for an update gets annoying this days :D |
| 22:01.52 | kergoth | Amadeo: click on profile tab, click the reset button next to "standard layout" |
| 22:01.57 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:02.08 | Amadeo | Yeah, but it still has categories for like 20 buttons |
| 22:02.11 | UE|Daemona | cheers well we did report that the encounter was well tuned, just that the immolation dmg was a bit high (it was 500dmg/tick) well they patched it... upped to 1k |
| 22:02.21 | cheers | lol |
| 22:02.38 | kergoth | if you dont want things on those buttons, go clear them out, i dont see why you would actually want less flexibility |
| 22:02.40 | cheers | that's a kick in the pants ;) |
| 22:02.42 | kergoth | but suit yourself |
| 22:02.57 | kergoth | Daemona: hah |
| 22:03.40 | cheers | yaay another storm tonight! |
| 22:03.53 | kergoth | good luck |
| 22:04.03 | cheers | heh |
| 22:04.12 | kergoth | i'm wondering how ourpuppy will take to a storm, havent had one since getting him |
| 22:04.26 | cheers | probably badly ;) |
| 22:05.21 | Daemona | its just like changing the trash respawn linked to a boss from 2 hours down to 1hour when clearing the trash takes roughly 40 minutes |
| 22:05.22 | cheers | funniest thing is, the weather warning pretty much says "dear Seattle-ites. please quit committing unintended suicide via Carbon Monoxide. thanks!" |
| 22:05.26 | Daemona | and a corpserun takes 5 |
| 22:05.41 | cheers | Daemona: damn. I hate that crap |
| 22:05.49 | cheers | Daemona: let us talk strat, take a piss for god sakes |
| 22:08.17 | Daemona | my favourite is though, a non-los check, min range 40yards fireball barrage that hits for 3k+ so you cant avoid that aoe immolation that ticks for 1k ^^ |
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| 22:08.47 | Daemona | but well i wonder why i play karazhan in beta anyway if they change stuff in the opposite way that my grp suggests ^^ |
| 22:09.57 | Daemona | guess i'll just go and play my shadowpriest and do some AV :D |
| 22:10.00 | juanvaldes | Because blizzard functions on a few basic laws. 1) players will try to make it easy 2) Players can not see balance 3) Players are idiots |
| 22:10.30 | Daemona | yeah and the player assumes 1) there is no logic behind an encounter |
| 22:10.36 | Daemona | because some encounters are just stupid |
| 22:10.41 | Daemona | (at least in beta) |
| 22:10.51 | juanvaldes | you have played live right? ;) |
| 22:10.51 | Quetzi | Sometimes I wonder if Players even |
| 22:11.00 | Quetzi | enter their mind |
| 22:11.12 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r21616 10TinyTip/ (. TinyTip.lua): |
| 22:11.12 | CIA-17 | TinyTip: |
| 22:11.12 | CIA-17 | -Hotfix for Compact Tooltip errors |
| 22:11.46 | juanvaldes | I think for the most part they run a few numbers. expected "ideal" dps / healing. if they like the numbesr it's declared "balanced" and "done" and they move on to the next encounter. |
| 22:12.14 | Daemona | let me quote tigole "we did AWESOME changes to ...." |
| 22:12.30 | cheers | lol |
| 22:12.33 | Daemona | awesome change we were able to notice was said respawn timer down to 1hour |
| 22:13.03 | Tornhoof | usually the awesome changes aren't the ones which break the encounter, the "no changes were made to" changes are |
| 22:13.11 | Daemona | and if you didnt know... blizzard has a "raid encounter quality assurance team" DOING all encounters with CHARS |
| 22:13.13 | Daemona | o.O |
| 22:13.20 | Daemona | i bet they are decked in t5 |
| 22:14.14 | Aeliel | I would think it depends on the encounter... aren't you being a bit pessimistic now? :) |
| 22:14.16 | juanvaldes | I lol at the idea of blizzard testing the content |
| 22:14.51 | Daemona | Aeliel honestly i have seen a lot encounters in BC Beta, all where somewhat managable |
| 22:15.00 | Daemona | but that one is plain impossible |
| 22:16.40 | Aeliel | can only hope they'll realize and fix then... but yeah, on that I agree, Blizzard's fixes to encounters tend to come late-ish |
| 22:17.35 | Aeliel | was thinking of the same |
| 22:17.44 | Arrowmaster | lol and all the while they said 'its not broken' |
| 22:17.44 | Aeliel | and the day they hotfixed him he went down :P |
| 22:17.55 | cheers | *nod* |
| 22:18.22 | Aeliel | "whups, sorry folks, guess it was broken after all" |
| 22:18.28 | Quetzi | wwell, they gotta leave a few broken encounters in to slow down the progress ;) |
| 22:18.43 | Aeliel | I'd rather they stick in gearchecks :P |
| 22:18.43 | juanvaldes | I think Patchwerk is a great example. the player base has been screaming about that one for months to be fixed. nothing. few days later "oh yeah...guess we should change that huh?" |
| 22:19.10 | Arrowmaster | huh? what was wrong with patchwerk |
| 22:19.12 | Daemona | *confused* what wasbroken? |
| 22:19.22 | juanvaldes | they changed how armor works |
| 22:19.29 | cheers | they made some change 'cuz the armor change caused him to hit like a tank |
| 22:19.31 | juanvaldes | so his 9K hateful strikes were hitting for anohter 1K |
| 22:19.33 | Aeliel | o_O |
| 22:19.43 | juanvaldes | so they turned the strikes down a little |
| 22:19.46 | Daemona | aah you are referring to the 2.0 patch |
| 22:19.46 | Aeliel | that I hadnt heard |
| 22:19.51 | cheers | *nod* |
| 22:19.57 | juanvaldes | yes 2.0 |
| 22:20.05 | Daemona | they enabled the TBC formulas and Patchwork played unfair ;) |
| 22:20.08 | cheers | yeah Daemona, we're not cool 'nuff to be in beta ;) |
| 22:20.28 | cheers | juanvaldes: you need to type faster so you don't look like you're repeating me ;) |
| 22:20.35 | kergoth | http://www.worlddominationbattle.com/play.htm |
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| 22:20.37 | juanvaldes | bah :P |
| 22:20.46 | kergoth | whee, fighting bush as castro, mortal kombat style |
| 22:20.51 | kergoth | bush keeps shooting missles out his mouth :( |
| 22:20.58 | Daemona | i only got a key cause i am in the guild that got horde first europe nefarion kill or something like that ;) joined the guild late AQ40 ^^ |
| 22:20.58 | cheers | omg kergoth you're BAD for my productivity :P |
| 22:21.04 | juanvaldes | lol |
| 22:21.09 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:22.18 | kergoth | "Wouldn't the world be a better place if the leaders of men had to settle their national differences one-on-one a la Mortal Kombat, instead of resorting to actual mortal combat? The creators of World Domination Battle think so. The game lets you match up Great Men past and present, complete with secret moves and weapons. I always knew Gandhi could beat up Silvio Berlusconi if he ever got the chance." |
| 22:22.40 | Aeliel | I'm torn on whether I would've liked a beta key, myself |
| 22:22.44 | Aeliel | on one hand, yay seeing content :D |
| 22:22.53 | juanvaldes | on the other...wasted time |
| 22:22.55 | Aeliel | on the other hand, boo releveling when TBC hits live D: |
| 22:22.56 | Aeliel | yeah |
| 22:23.09 | kergoth | plus it ruined regular wow, i hate playing it now |
| 22:23.13 | juanvaldes | I can pass. but cheers over there wanted it bad |
| 22:23.19 | cheers | but yeah, it took awhile |
| 22:23.36 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: http://zakuria.de/~smallbrain/C_H+HQ_TGAs.zip <- most current rev C_H with replaced paths and all TGAs in a sub-folder (most likely just need to commit), even Ancient Lichen is in now, thanks to some TBC tester's help ^^ |
| 22:23.41 | waffle | so, is it true that 60-70 takes about as long as 1-60? |
| 22:23.51 | kergoth | Gnarfoz: ah nice |
| 22:23.53 | Gnarfoz | someone already commited the same thing for C_Mining |
| 22:23.53 | Aeliel | that's what they said |
| 22:23.58 | Gnarfoz | < no SVN acc ^^ |
| 22:24.07 | Aeliel | otoh in beta xp rates were sped up, afaik, to ease testing |
| 22:24.55 | juanvaldes | waffle: they played with both ends of the formule. xp needed and how much we got. |
| 22:24.58 | kergoth | really not looking forward to how packed outland is gonna be |
| 22:25.07 | juanvaldes | ugh yeah |
| 22:25.16 | juanvaldes | and the new starting areas |
| 22:25.19 | Aeliel | speaking of beta... what's the deal with the grand master trainers? I've heard they have recipes that in non-TBC WoW are rare drops / rare vendor patterns, is that true or? trying to determine whether I should grind for some rare patterns or not >_> |
| 22:25.21 | cheers | juanvaldes: no worries, we'll just go to the Belf area! |
| 22:25.26 | cheers | it'll be spacious! ;) |
| 22:25.32 | juanvaldes | yeah right ;) |
| 22:26.03 | Aeliel | I feel sorry for the horde, it'll be their turn now to get Legolas-clones and such ;) |
| 22:26.36 | kergoth | Aeliel: thats true, yes. things like the aq20 backstab book, thats at the rogue trainer |
| 22:26.36 | juanvaldes | its' okay the allis already took all the names ;) |
| 22:26.47 | CIA-17 | 03weab * r21617 10Automaton/modules/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Automaton: Minor cleanup across nearly all modules |
| 22:26.48 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:26.51 | cheers | Aeliel: yeah... we'll be okay |
| 22:26.53 | Aeliel | kergoth: that much I know, I was thinking more of professions |
| 22:27.14 | kergoth | ah, not sure on that |
| 22:27.21 | juanvaldes | or have spines that somehow show through clothing? |
| 22:27.35 | Aeliel | and don't forget fashionably ripped elbows and knees :p |
| 22:28.13 | cheers | juanvaldes: yes, and having all my bones stay inside my body |
| 22:28.16 | cheers | ooooh and my gear not shredding itself when i put it on! |
| 22:28.23 | cheers | and REAL hips! |
| 22:28.26 | juanvaldes | lol |
| 22:28.50 | juanvaldes | having easy mode will be nice |
| 22:28.52 | deltron | lol |
| 22:28.53 | Gnarfoz | one day I will implement the gliding animation for statusbars in agUF :\ until then... fading ;D |
| 22:29.07 | deltron | fading works fine for me |
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| 22:29.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I re-implemented that before I noticed aUF_BarFader's description was just wrong and it already did that |
| 22:31.03 | Gnarfoz | although it does it in quite a different way, don't know which is 'better' :\ |
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| 22:31.51 | groll | hmm who is the webpage/designer guy on wowace? :) |
| 22:32.02 | Famex | i can use left and right mouse to walk anymore, has this something to do with my ui? |
| 22:32.24 | [_Trimble_] | famex - do you mean when using mouselook? |
| 22:32.24 | deltron | Famex: change your keybindings? |
| 22:32.31 | wallen | oh god, how do you select stuff? |
| 22:33.28 | Ominous | what causes invalid capture index? |
| 22:34.07 | [_Trimble_] | Famex? |
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| 22:34.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 22:34.58 | [_Trimble_] | Hey Tekkub :) |
| 22:35.04 | Tekkub | :P |
| 22:35.13 | Famex | hmmm doesnt help Trimble |
| 22:35.21 | [_Trimble_] | I recently discovered your ModMenutufu |
| 22:35.26 | [_Trimble_] | impressive :) |
| 22:35.28 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r21618 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Fire UpdateUnit when CTRA res events are received. |
| 22:36.01 | [_Trimble_] | famex, I was asking if you used to use a mouselook lock program of some sort |
| 22:36.08 | vid` | oh thank god |
| 22:36.21 | vid` | clad posted on wow-interface that hes close to releasing perfectraid |
| 22:36.27 | vid` | yay |
| 22:36.56 | Famex | not that i know... |
| 22:37.19 | [_Trimble_] | Tekkub: I was going to recommend, if possible, to add another menu option to ModMenuTuFu - By Status - so that you can group mods together and see all disabled together, all loadable together, etc. |
| 22:37.52 | [_Trimble_] | Famex - ok, how di dyou mean you want to use left and right mouse to walk? as in hold down both buttons to walk forward? |
| 22:38.09 | [_Trimble_] | famex - or, did you want to use left button to move backward and right button to move forward? |
| 22:39.16 | Famex | hhmmm strange but it works now, although i didnt change anything, thnx for the hup though. |
| 22:40.08 | [_Trimble_] | famex - ok dude, as long as you're happy :) |
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| 22:44.52 | snirks | the bid watch module in Fence bugs out |
| 22:47.27 | Neriak | snirks: elaborate please |
| 22:48.19 | Neriak | snirks: are you using DeuceCommander? which version are you running .. I fixed some stuff in the two latest revisions of today |
| 22:48.49 | Neriak | snirks: c'mon hurry, I'm short on time ;) |
| 22:50.02 | Neriak | snirks: ok, just post it in Fence thread .. I'll look into it, but before please get the latest version and test it again ... good night |
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| 22:51.34 | snirks | neriak, sorry was in AV |
| 22:51.37 | snirks | its a version from today |
| 22:51.44 | snirks | you're not reading this |
| 22:52.31 | Gnarfoz | most likely, as he's not here anymore |
| 22:52.31 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 22:52.42 | snirks | just saw |
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| 23:02.12 | Hjalte | If any of you are using worldofwar.net you might want to check out this link about a keylogger http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=100000187&sid=1 |
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| 23:03.24 | waffle | ugh |
| 23:03.27 | Famex | When i mouse over my barbuttons and dont see the info of the spell, cant find a way to turn this on. Anybody who can help me with this? |
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| 23:08.18 | Eej | halp |
| 23:08.28 | Eej | why does SkillsPlusFu not work D: |
| 23:10.00 | cheers | thanks for the heads up Hjalte |
| 23:12.58 | snirks | Does anyone know if you can show/hide chatwindows with a macro? |
| 23:12.59 | kebinusan | Could someone do me a favor and fix the externals on T_Tracking and T_TrackingFu |
| 23:13.12 | kebinusan | They are using a \ instead of a / in the paths |
| 23:14.35 | PProvost | Hey kergoth, I see HealPoints in your list... what is it? I can't find it listed anywhere? |
| 23:16.08 | Eej | oh that's why |
| 23:16.18 | Eej | he didn't include the libraries :| |
| 23:16.28 | cheers | lol |
| 23:18.04 | Ominous | does anyone know what causes invalid capture index |
| 23:18.09 | PProvost | nm, kergoth, I found it on curse. |
| 23:19.12 | Soulless | whats the script to queue for av as a group? |
| 23:19.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:19.41 | ckknight | I'm not sure why so many people told me that getting my wisdom teeth out would be so bad |
| 23:20.05 | Eej | well that's annoying |
| 23:20.05 | ckknight | I got em out all of 3 hours ago and I'm pretty much fine now |
| 23:20.10 | cheers | ckknight: it wasn't that bad... but then I was high on pain meds for quite a bit afterwards |
| 23:20.20 | Eej | the new skillsplusfu only shows one tradeskill at a time... that's so useless :| |
| 23:20.25 | ckknight | I took 2 advil |
| 23:20.27 | ckknight | that's about it |
| 23:20.33 | Eej | ckknight: different people have different reactions |
| 23:20.33 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 23:20.35 | [DiE]Celeb^ | Soulless; JoinBattlefield(0,1) or something |
| 23:20.36 | Funkeh` | i have a taint |
| 23:20.40 | Funkeh` | i ran taintchecker |
| 23:20.48 | Funkeh` | any way to find what is causing the taint? |
| 23:20.49 | Eej | yeah it's JoinBattlefield(0,1); |
| 23:20.53 | renchap | kebinusan: there is no libs provided with T_Tracking and T_TrackingFu |
| 23:20.57 | cheers | ckknight: lol i was on vicoden. juanvaldes just kept drugging me when I woke up, & I slept for like 24 hrs |
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| 23:21.11 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:21.19 | ckknight | I don't want to take vicodin |
| 23:21.23 | ckknight | I have a prescription for it |
| 23:21.28 | cheers | then don't :shrug: |
| 23:21.29 | ckknight | but I don't like to take drugs |
| 23:21.29 | kebinusan | renchap: they're defined as externals |
| 23:21.31 | ckknight | it's addicting |
| 23:21.32 | Funkeh` | i have a list of waht is tainted but no way to find what is causing the taint? |
| 23:21.34 | kebinusan | but they're defined wrong |
| 23:21.44 | cheers | ckknight: lol you should be okay |
| 23:21.53 | cheers | ckknight: but if you dont' need it, don't take it :shrug: |
| 23:21.59 | ckknight | yea, pretty much |
| 23:22.03 | ckknight | oh well |
| 23:22.04 | cheers | if you're hurtin', or maybe when you try to sleep, maybe pop one |
| 23:22.10 | renchap | hum ok |
| 23:22.28 | ckknight | I have a very high pain tolerance |
| 23:22.29 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 23:22.34 | renchap | lets try to fix this :) |
| 23:23.07 | ckknight | it wouldn't stop bleeding for like 3 hours, though |
| 23:23.13 | ckknight | now that it has, I feel fine |
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| 23:23.43 | cheers | good :) |
| 23:24.00 | Baps | ckk: some people have good wisdom teeth experiences.. others suck |
| 23:24.10 | cheers | I'm quite impressed you're chatting coherently |
| 23:24.10 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 23:24.19 | Baps | goeb was having burgers for dinner the day he had his out.. |
| 23:24.19 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:24.21 | Famex | when i mouse over my spell buttons i dont see the info about the spell, any one who can tell me how i put this on again? |
| 23:24.23 | cheers | I was stoned out of my mind comin' out hte docs office, and then on pain killers |
| 23:24.25 | Baps | I was a wreck for 3 weeks |
| 23:24.25 | ckknight | it's a little sore |
| 23:24.27 | ckknight | that's all |
| 23:24.42 | Baps | and I still sometimes feel like I have food in the pockets.. 15 years later |
| 23:24.59 | Baps | also, I can't chew gum anymore |
| 23:25.00 | ckknight | lol, baps |
| 23:25.04 | Baps | they screwed my jaw up |
| 23:25.07 | cheers | :( |
| 23:25.10 | cheers | that sucks |
| 23:25.11 | ckknight | it does feel like I have food in one of my wisdom teeth |
| 23:25.11 | Aeliel | Famex: at a guess, advanced tooltips in interface options? |
| 23:25.15 | ckknight | despite it not being there |
| 23:25.32 | Fisker- | we're the winners of AV |
| 23:25.36 | ckknight | grats |
| 23:25.45 | Fisker- | :P |
| 23:25.52 | Fisker- | I like alliance sometimes |
| 23:26.21 | Fisker- | usual wins avs, but get some stupid guy to watch the relief hut flag and horde wins on getting the relief hut back when they're doing battlemasters |
| 23:26.23 | cheers | haha Fisker- |
| 23:26.38 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: all four of them at once? |
| 23:26.45 | ckknight | yep |
| 23:26.47 | ckknight | all at once |
| 23:26.54 | Fisker- | 3rd time today i ninjacapped relief hut and won the game cause of some guy being afk at the flag :P |
| 23:26.57 | Baps | if you're going to have it done.. all at once is the way to go |
| 23:27.02 | Famex | no there i cant find any options, im pretty sure it is an option in deuce commander |
| 23:27.03 | Gnarfoz | had that done 6 years ago... |
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| 23:27.14 | Gnarfoz | hurt like a bitch when I woke up ^^ |
| 23:27.20 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r21619 10T_Tracking/ (. libs/): T_Tracking: Fixing externals |
| 23:27.48 | juanvaldes | stupid question. the wowace wiki does not run inline ads right? |
| 23:28.02 | renchap | kebinusan: should be ok |
| 23:28.13 | ckknight | they gave me Nitrous Oxide while operating on me |
| 23:28.15 | ckknight | made it go okay |
| 23:28.33 | Gnarfoz | what... you were awake? |
| 23:28.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:28.42 | ckknight | whole time |
| 23:28.44 | Gnarfoz | shit o_O |
| 23:29.03 | ckknight | the NO2 stopped any pain, really |
| 23:29.08 | kebinusan | lol wow |
| 23:29.09 | cheers | ick. |
| 23:29.12 | ckknight | though I did feel a little when they were grinding |
| 23:29.17 | kebinusan | I cant believe that worked |
| 23:29.18 | Gnarfoz | I had general anesthesia for that one. :> |
| 23:29.18 | Xuerian | Oooopen flaaaameee |
| 23:29.20 | Fisker- | i apparently was about to bite one of my doctors finger off when i was really young |
| 23:29.28 | cheers | put me under, thankyouverymuch |
| 23:29.28 | kebinusan | Apaprently they only removed join as group from the ui for the AV battlemaster |
| 23:29.44 | ckknight | Fisker-, they put a stopper in my mouth to keep it open |
| 23:29.44 | kebinusan | ./script JoinBattlefield(0,1) will still join as group to AV |
| 23:29.47 | Fisker- | was told i had been given drugs that just didn't work so my nerves made my mouth shut |
| 23:29.48 | cheers | kebinusan: yeah, you can still do it evidently by doing that. |
| 23:30.29 | Fisker- | well i was 6 back then so i don't really remember it |
| 23:30.44 | ckknight | what did you get done, Fisker-? |
| 23:30.59 | ckknight | Wisdom teeth don't typically start developing until puberty |
| 23:31.31 | CIA-17 | 03renchap * r21620 10T_TrackingFu/ (. libs/): T_TrackingFu: Fixing externals |
| 23:31.41 | Baps | they dislocated my jaw.. and it's never been the same since. :-/ |
| 23:32.07 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:32.12 | Gnarfoz | general anesthesia is fun. |
| 23:32.14 | ckknight | well, glad mine went smoothly |
| 23:32.19 | Fisker- | it was something about me biting through my mouth |
| 23:32.27 | ckknight | Fisker-, ah |
| 23:37.29 | Eej | ckknight: were you given penicillin as well? |
| 23:37.32 | Funkeh` | any ideas? :p |
| 23:37.36 | ckknight | Eej, nope |
| 23:37.40 | Eej | weird |
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| 23:37.51 | ckknight | Eej, just local anasthetic and nitrous oxide for the operation |
| 23:37.55 | ckknight | and I took 2 advil afterwards |
| 23:38.00 | Eej | I mean after the operation |
| 23:38.04 | ckknight | just ate a bowl of soup |
| 23:38.17 | Eej | when I got my 4 (and a half) wisdom teeth taken out i was given tylenol-3 and penicillin |
| 23:38.22 | ckknight | no, they gave me a prescription for extra-strength vicodin |
| 23:38.27 | ckknight | which I'm not going to take |
| 23:38.29 | Eej | weird |
| 23:38.53 | Eej | they probably should've given you penicillin, dental surgery introduces a shitload of bacteria (from an already bacteria filled place) into your bloodstream |
| 23:38.55 | Eej | o well |
| 23:39.01 | ckknight | well, tylenol and vicodin both have Acetaminophen in it |
| 23:39.29 | xgravix | poison |
| 23:39.30 | Eej | guess you don't have to worry too much cause you're not an old fogey |
| 23:39.45 | cheers | *shudder* pennicilin |
| 23:39.58 | ckknight | xgravix, poison? |
| 23:40.10 | Eej | nothing wrong with penicillin, unless you're allergic anyhow |
| 23:40.15 | cheers | eyup |
| 23:40.23 | cheers | <-- allergic |
| 23:40.51 | xgravix | makes red spots come out on every inch of skin |
| 23:40.53 | xgravix | itch like hell |
| 23:40.59 | xgravix | murder i tell ye |
| 23:41.14 | Eej | and for us normal people, it's awesome ;) |
| 23:41.25 | cheers | lol "us normal people" :P |
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| 23:41.36 | ckknight | I don't think I fall into that category either |
| 23:42.29 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 23:42.31 | Eej | well, you don't really need to take antibiotics unless a) you've had surgery b) you're sick |
| 23:42.39 | Eej | or c) you're really afraid of traveller's diarrhea |
| 23:42.58 | xgravix | don't let them give it to you |
| 23:43.01 | ckknight | it seems like nowadays every mother is asking for antibiotics for their child |
| 23:43.03 | ckknight | and such |
| 23:43.14 | ckknight | an overdependence on it |
| 23:43.18 | cheers | ckknight: it's necessary for some things... |
| 23:43.30 | ckknight | cheers, some things, but not most things. |
| 23:43.38 | cheers | only time I wasn't sick was when i was on the antibiotics |
| 23:43.42 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:43.43 | cheers | (most likely, thus the allergy) ;) |
| 23:44.09 | ckknight | either way, I'm freaky healthy normally |
| 23:44.14 | cheers | hehe, well enjoy it |
| 23:44.17 | cheers | being sick sucks :P |
| 23:44.21 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 23:44.25 | ckknight | no denying |
| 23:44.32 | cheers | so does getting your tonsil's out over Thanksgiving |
| 23:44.33 | ckknight | I've been sick before |
| 23:44.35 | ckknight | just not often |
| 23:44.41 | ckknight | also, fun story |
| 23:44.43 | cheers | "want some cold mashed potatos?" |
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| 23:44.45 | ckknight | I broke my collarbone |
| 23:44.57 | ckknight | and I waiting 4 days before I told my mom |
| 23:45.01 | Xuerian | o.o |
| 23:45.04 | ckknight | figuring it'd go away |
| 23:45.14 | Eej | haha |
| 23:45.24 | ckknight | turns out it didn't, so I got a sling and it was better in 3 weeks |
| 23:45.29 | Xuerian | I did that with my toe, but.... collarbone? Geez. o.0 |
| 23:46.06 | Dekuna | anyone here using the Visor2 GUI? |
| 23:46.27 | kergoth | one of my toes is still hokey, never got it looked at when it happened |
| 23:46.36 | kergoth | broke it on a coffee table, stubbed it running for the phone |
| 23:46.36 | Eej | "man this broken bone will go away if I leave it alone right?" |
| 23:46.49 | ckknight | Eej, I didn't know it was broken |
| 23:47.25 | Eej | you mean the pain wasn't an indication? :P |
| 23:47.45 | ckknight | no |
| 23:47.58 | ckknight | how was I supposed to know what a broken bone was like? |
| 23:48.04 | Fisker- | http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6466/clearlyoutplayedhx9.jpg |
| 23:48.05 | Fisker- | btw |
| 23:48.07 | Fisker- | clearly outplayed |
| 23:48.17 | [Cu]Werik | do you guys know the console command for dismissing your demon? |
| 23:49.17 | ckknight | Fisker-, you're foreign |
| 23:49.23 | Trancer | Fisker-: be happy, wasn't a 7.2k soulfire ;) |
| 23:49.59 | Trancer | Fisker-: how is that timer mod on the right called? |
| 23:50.08 | cheers | Fisker-: juanvaldes his fireballs like that ;) |
| 23:50.18 | Eej | be happy it wasn't a 5544 Pyro :P |
| 23:50.24 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r21621 10Automaton/modules/LootBOP.lua: Automaton: Update locals koKR |
| 23:50.59 | Trancer | and wtf do you need 4375g for :S |
| 23:51.09 | xgravix | to buy epix |
| 23:51.14 | Trancer | dirty repair cost evader! :p |
| 23:51.16 | cheers | mounts! |
| 23:51.25 | Kemayo | [Cu]Werik: Isn't that just /cast Summon (Voidwalker) |
| 23:51.25 | Kemayo | ? |
| 23:51.36 | Kemayo | (Or, you know, whichever one you have out.) |
| 23:51.46 | [Cu]Werik | oh |
| 23:51.47 | [Cu]Werik | thanks:) |
| 23:52.07 | kergoth | Fisker-: i hate you and your 4375g |
| 23:52.10 | kergoth | Fisker-: :) |
| 23:52.13 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 23:52.25 | Fisker- | Trancer yeah pyroblast isn't that much worse than fireball |
| 23:52.41 | cheers | that was supposed to be "hits" not "his" btw |
| 23:52.54 | [Cu]Werik | oh btw |
| 23:52.59 | [Cu]Werik | no its not summon again:) |
| 23:53.03 | Trancer | biggest soulfire crit for now is around 4.7k |
| 23:53.09 | Kemayo | Darn. |
| 23:53.16 | Trancer | without trinkets + funnies |
| 23:53.19 | Trancer | was on a warrior tho |
| 23:53.57 | kergoth | i need more moneys skills in wow |
| 23:54.07 | Fisker- | only 4300 rep until revered with silvermoon :P |
| 23:54.09 | kergoth | my 65 rogue only has 700g |
| 23:54.10 | kergoth | damn |
| 23:54.11 | Trancer | you need a decent server for that kergoth |
| 23:54.12 | Fisker- | gonna be awesome |
| 23:54.31 | Fisker- | our twilight texts went for 2g a piece for a long time here |
| 23:55.05 | anenigma | dang, 2g. ours were lucky to go for 1g |
| 23:55.44 | Trancer | hmm.. not bad |
| 23:56.06 | Trancer | on a DS lock you can easily net 40-50 texts an hour |
| 23:56.19 | Fisker- | and i usually camped the princess so i got a lot of texts easily |
| 23:56.20 | cheers | geeze |
| 23:56.20 | Trancer | grinding machine, guess it's the same for rogue |
| 23:56.21 | cheers | how? |
| 23:56.26 | Trancer | 0 downtime |
| 23:56.28 | Trancer | prophet is a joke |
| 23:56.45 | cheers | how do you get any kills though |
| 23:56.54 | cheers | like 50 farmers per spawn down there |
| 23:56.56 | Fisker- | yeah prophet not princess :P |
| 23:57.00 | Dhraga | nn all |
| 23:57.02 | Fisker- | not here O_o |
| 23:57.04 | cheers | night Dhraga |
| 23:57.09 | Trancer | just nuke the living crap out of them, I used to farm my rep at 3 at night, that was long long ago tho, before AQ came out even |
| 23:57.15 | Fisker- | usually i'm timing the prophets so accurately that i'm the first one on them |
| 23:57.22 | Trancer | yeah, they are just timed, easy peasy |
| 23:57.27 | Trancer | easy kill as priest aswell |
| 23:57.34 | Trancer | mindcontrol, kill adds, kill her, tadaa |
| 23:57.55 | cheers | heh |
| 23:58.09 | cheers | I was all excited when juan & I duoed the maroders the first time |
| 23:58.17 | Trancer | hehe |
| 23:58.32 | Fisker- | i just go in, adrenaline rush, when prophet is down do blade flurry for the rest |
| 23:58.47 | Trancer | myeah works aswell :) |
| 23:59.05 | Trancer | on lock it's voidwalker on an add, cast shadowbolt while in travel, shadowbolt lands as aoe taunt goes off |
| 23:59.17 | Trancer | pull of the mean lady on you, nuke her to shit, sac vw, take a hike |
