irclog2html for #wowace on 20061219

00:00.15markvhttp://www.topthat.net/webrock/hbshows.htm that's a list of the shows they did
00:00.53Amadeodamn
00:00.57AmadeoI'm sick of IM clients these days
00:01.05Amadeowell, not clients..the service I guess
00:01.06kergothhaste: possibility... given the assumption that energy is being gained at a fixed energy per second on the server side, and that there is latency, time taken from the event being sent to when your client receives it... if, if the client were smart, it could consider how much energy we'd have gained during the time that passed in transit... say the latency is 120ms, you'd gain some fractional amount of energy during that time
00:01.37kergothso if the latency was high, you could (due to rounding) end up with 21
00:01.44AmadeoYahoo's always broken, AIM's always broken, MSN's always broken...do any services work anymore?
00:01.53Bver__also, im getting alot of various addon_action_blocked messages for different frames. ie BongosActionBar2:SetPoint(), things like that
00:01.54hastethe tick regen is fixed, I'm almost 100%
00:01.55JoshBork1Amadeo: IRC
00:01.55kergothlots of assumptions there, you'd have to do lots of measurement ot see if thats actually the case or if i'm just talking out my ass
00:02.00AmadeoJoshBork1: haha, yeah...
00:02.02vhaarrAmadeo: Jabber works fine.
00:02.11markvi just use trillian, amadeo, that way at least something will be connected at one point or another
00:02.34kergothhaste: i'm not arguing that the tick isnt fixed, i'm arguing that perhaps on the server end its seen as a "energy per second", a rate, not a fixed "this amount every X seconds"
00:02.37hastekergoth: there was someone who slapped out an add on to check how much energy you regened, might want to extend it into time also
00:02.39Amadeovhaarr: I've never tried Jabber...I know I need offline messaging, but aren't there a billion Jabber servers with different features on each? How do I know which ones are legit and not reading all my messages or not?
00:02.55vhaarrAmadeo: You don't.
00:02.58Amadeohaha
00:03.30ArrowmasterAmadeo: then use gtalk
00:03.37vhaarrWhich is also Jabber.
00:03.43Arrowmasteryup
00:03.50vhaarrHow do you know Microsoft doesn't read your MSN?
00:03.50kergothhaste: just an oddball idea, like i said, might be out in left field, just conjecture about possible causes of the oddities
00:03.55AmadeoGoogle Talk claims to have offline messaging, but it doesn't work
00:04.15Amadeovhaarr: They probably do, but I don't use it since it sucks :)
00:04.26Arrowmasteri know microsoft doesnt read my msn because my trillian hasnt been able to keep a connection to msn for like over a year
00:04.32Amadeohahah
00:04.34markvim in ur akount readin ur msgz
00:04.41kergothhaste: does UnitEnergy() always return an integer?
00:04.45vhaarrAmadeo: Maybe you should just encrypt your messages.
00:04.48vhaarrIf you care.
00:04.49Barbanuskergoth, are you watching the UNIT_ENERGY event?
00:05.13kergothyep, and keeping an average t o try to compensate for the network latency
00:05.24Amadeovhaarr: I don't know if I care that much about it, but I'd rather not have some kid running a private server to read them :)
00:05.37AmadeoI'd use Google's Jabber server if the offline messaging worked
00:06.04vhaarrThere are tons of jabber servers run by all kinds of different people, Google is not unique.
00:06.21BarbanusHmmm you could easily watch when UNIT_ENERGY fires, check the net lag at the time, and see if it has any corrilation .. but I guess there is processing lag too on the server .. which doesnt get updated in network latency....
00:06.30CIA-1703ckknight * r21325 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (HonorFu.lua HonorFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_HonorFu - added option to not color the score frame
00:06.39kergothwait wait wait a second.. if it was truly network latency in a server side tick, itd still be 2 seconds per tick on the client, just offset, assuming fixed latency.. so any differences in timing are due to the difference in latency between the start and end of the tick
00:06.41KarlThePaganTrillian says they can do some kind of secure IM between trillian clients
00:06.42ArrowmasterAmadeo: from what i understand of jabber, the messages only go from the server you use to the server the person your talking to uses, but i havent actually looked into jabber that much so i could be wrong
00:06.46KarlThePagannever tried it out tho
00:06.55Amadeovhaarr: Yeah, I know...just feels more trustworthy, since I don't really know any of the others
00:07.04kergothBarbanus: indeed, thats probably the factor i was missing, the lag on their end
00:07.07kergoth:)
00:07.10vhaarrArrowmaster: Obviously it would be possible for the server admin to read unencrypted messages.
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00:07.25vhaarrAmadeo: If you talk to Jabber people on other servers, Google can't protect you.
00:07.27Arrowmasteryes but some kid running a private server would not
00:07.33Barbanuskergoth, I'm sure you have experienced the 2 sec loot lag, where you have a 100ms ping :P
00:07.34vhaarrsure he could
00:07.45vhaarrThe Jabber format is remarkably easy to digest.
00:07.50kergothBarbanus: hehe, indeed
00:07.52Amadeovhaarr: True, I didn't think of that part
00:08.02kergothi just didnt correlated it, thats my mistake, its obviously not just latency in the mix
00:08.13kergothso the average i'm doing now is probably the best bet, or something similar
00:08.20BarbanusSpam email: "watching Cats, feline bloody invasion are everywhere naked."
00:08.23BarbanusI'll take 12!!
00:08.42Amadeovhaarr: Do you use Jabber?
00:08.49vhaarryes
00:09.01Barbanusgaim is FTW
00:09.01Amadeowhat server?
00:09.09vhaarrjabber.no
00:09.10Amadeogaim's a client
00:09.13AmadeoI see
00:09.24markvi couldn't get in to gaim for some reason
00:09.26BarbanusOh, I'm aware :P
00:09.26kenlyricgaim's the only one that does jabber and irc.
00:09.31markvi preferred trillian more
00:09.32vhaarrNo, it's not.
00:09.38markvno it's not
00:09.40markvtrillian does
00:09.40kenlyrictrillian you have to pay for to get jabber support.
00:09.51kergothhaste: the thing is, if energy is gained truly at 20 every 2 seconds, rather than being considered as a rate by the server, than the situation i described above with adrenaline rush would be an oddity.  say i'm 1.5 seconds into the 2 second tick, and fire AD (cutting tick time to 1 sec).  when is my next tick? immediately? in 0.5 seconds? in 1 second? in 2?
00:09.55Barbanustrillian sucks IMO
00:09.56kenlyricunless that changed in the last year.
00:10.28hastekergoth: I think there is a very good reason for people not trying to add AR into this already :)
00:10.33kergothhehe
00:10.42AmadeoMiranda IM is my favorite for Windows
00:11.06kergothif my assumption about tick behavior on the server end is corerct, then i can predict the actual next tick in that situation, since we determine how much of the 20 energy we've accrued so far, then consider at the new rate when we'll hit 20
00:12.00BarbanusI'm sure its server-side .. otherwise it would be open to way too many hacks
00:12.37kergothits definately server side, but i have two questions, one is how they calculate it on the server side, and 2 is if the client is able to adjust for latency
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00:13.51hasteI guess I can do some testing, I have fairly low latency towards the server
00:13.55BarbanusIt may be even something like the client requesting "how much energy do I have now?" every 2 secs.
00:13.57haste40ms to be exact
00:14.46hastejust something basic like clearing RFC to find the average of it all
00:15.04markvhmm miranda looks pertty neat.
00:15.12kergothif the server tracks your energy more granularly than 20 per 2, and the client has to ask the server for its energy, than it could easily return a value other than 20 due to the latency involved
00:15.16nymbiaBarbanus, i'm pretty sure all health/mana/energy events are sent down by the server
00:15.26Barbanusbecause if it was the server telling the client "you now have x energy", then it should always be exactly 20 energy.
00:15.53Barbanusnymbia, they most definately are. You ever been in an instance when the server is crashing, and your health / mana isnt going up? I have.
00:16.35Barbanuskergoth, yea thats what I was thinking
00:17.06kergothnymbia: the events are, but the event doesnt likely carry your current energy.  you have to call UnitMana(), which could easily be asking the server, or the client couldve asked upon receipt of the event before your handler is called, but after their event, either way theres a possibility for change between the event and obtaining the energy
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00:17.19Amadeomarkv: It's very ugly by default, but you can make it look nice without really bloating it up
00:17.52sylvanaarkergoth: its new - havent enabled it in the toc but feel free to try it and the channelrenumbmering
00:18.00kergothcool
00:18.08Barbanussylvanaar, what does that do?
00:18.31sylvanaarBarbanus: rejoins your channels to the same number
00:18.42hastewell, I'm going to bed now :)
00:18.46BarbanusI've had this issue with the patch, I used to have channels 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 .. but now its moving 5,6,7 to 4,5,6 ... that will fix that?
00:18.46hastegood night
00:18.46kergothnight haste
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00:18.59Barbanusnight haste
00:19.06sylvanaaryeah
00:19.14Barbanusawesome, I'll try it when I get home
00:19.18CIA-1703rabbit * r21326 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: .CandyBar-2.0: Break on nil, not non-nil for gradient colors.
00:19.21sylvanaarplease do
00:19.25Barbanusso far I made a channel called "FUBAR" as channel 4 :P
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00:20.01Barbanusits habbit, cause 4 was my LFG channel (not diplayed of course), so it screws me up :P
00:20.44sylvanaaryeah, check it out, you have to enable it in the toc because i didnt want to deal with forum posts if it deleted peoples channels
00:20.52Barbanushaha
00:21.01de|kipis there a ace2 kos-list addon?
00:21.01BarbanusYea, if it deletes my channels, whoopdie
00:21.09Barbanusits 6 commands to get em back :P
00:21.49sylvanaarheh yeah, takes longer to make a post
00:22.16BarbanusYea, that boggles my mind sometimes :P
00:23.12sylvanaarwell, you only hear bad news usually, you get a skewed perspective
00:26.36CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21327 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Enable chatlog module
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00:30.14sylvanaari also collapsed the disabled modules into a submenu, that will make prat look less overwhelming
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00:36.28Barbanuscool
00:36.29Ominouswhere can i download a font to view koKR locals
00:36.36AmadeoWhy do I get random "BLocked by UI" messages?
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00:36.46Amadeoit's a different addon every time
00:37.23CIA-1703evilelvis * r21328 10eeMon/credits.txt: eeMon: zip update
00:37.24Barbanusis it the RaidGroupX thing?
00:37.30Amadeonope
00:37.57Barbanusmessage?
00:38.16BarbanusDo you have a BugSack report?
00:39.37CIA-1703evilelvis * r21329 10FuBar_agufFu/credits.txt: FuBar_agufFu: zip update
00:41.18Kinkxsylvanaar - there is an small error on line 22 in ChatLog.lua, just missing a ", giving an error on load though
00:42.50AmadeoBarbanus: Nah, just the popup...been getting rid of addons lately
00:43.42Neeblerhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=s6nipE5NWZ4
00:44.08sylvanaarsob
00:44.52vhaarr~whalecrit evilelvis
00:44.53purlACTION crits evilelvis with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. evilelvis dies
00:45.23sylvanaaro.O
00:45.45vhaarrevilelvis * r21329 FuBar_agufFu/credits.txt: FuBar_agufFu: zip update <- doesn't work any more, and he'd know that if he ever was on IRC
00:45.58vhaarr~seen evilelvis
00:46.17purlvhaarr: i haven't seen 'evilelvis'
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00:47.25uszwhat happened to idea of allowing commits to ppl who stay on irc?
00:47.40vhaarrhard to enforce
00:47.59sylvanaarwas ist los mit Prat
00:48.21sylvanaarich kann es uberhaupt nicht sehen
00:48.27uszpre-commit hooks or whatever it was called coudlnt check user name vs irc bot dumped list or something like that?
00:48.54Amadeovhaarr is like the addon caretaker
00:49.00sylvanaarwo soll die komma setzen
00:49.01vhaarrusz: indeed it could, but we would need some mapping table.
00:49.44uszlike rabbit <--> vhaarr ?
00:49.48vhaarryes
00:49.51ckknightrabbit = vhaar
00:49.58JoshBork1or is it rabbit == vhaar?
00:50.07vhaarrrabbit ~= vhaarr ?
00:50.32vhaarrmaybe he's some kokrean guy and I just claim his commits
00:50.33ckknightwell, maybe vhaarr ~= vhaar, but they are equivalent
00:51.14vhaarrAnyway, I'd welcome such a restriction.
00:51.52vhaarrmight lose us commits from people like Devla, I don't think he has ever been here.
00:52.11sylvanaarhabs gefunden!
00:52.41uszvhaarr, if you would have to implement mapping table, then you could also add whitelist on the way
00:52.55Aelielum. I updated Chronometer (and a few other addons, can give a list) and now every time a chronometer bar pops up on my screen, my chat frame gets a "-------" line... what gives? o_O
00:52.55vhaarrtrue, good point
00:53.05CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21330 10Prat/modules/ChatLog.lua: Prat: hast die " vergessen
00:53.12Kinkx;D
00:53.20JoshBork1why must you commit in german? :-P
00:53.40JoshBork1btw, would that be: warum must du auf Deustch <insert world for commit>
00:54.10ckknightkommit
00:54.30sylvanaarbecause the german loalization had a missing "
00:55.02sylvanaarit was supposed to be funny
00:55.36sylvanaareine witze
00:55.48sylvanaaror whatever
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00:56.29Azurewrathyou mean "Ein Witz" ;)
00:56.48sylvanaarschtimt doch!
00:57.06sylvanaarbeen >10 years, im doin good
00:58.26Azurewrathhehe, "stimmt doch"
00:58.57vhaarrNo, no, all german words with "s" in them have "sch", everyone knows that.
00:59.43ckknightwas gibt?
00:59.48Azurewraththey do?
00:59.59vhaarryeah, it's a lot funnier that way
01:00.12Azurewrathschounds schilly ;p
01:00.15JoshBork1ckknight: you mean: wasch gibt
01:00.48CIA-1703quetz * r21331 10Q_FWG/ (. Q_FWG.toc): Q_FWG: TOC update
01:01.39CIA-1703ominous * r21332 10FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu/ (Core.lua StunTimerFu.lua):
01:01.40CIA-17FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu:
01:01.40CIA-17-removed un-needed locals
01:01.40CIA-17-added option to change bar color if a static color is set
01:02.15sylvanaarah, yes, i totally mispelled it
01:02.40Arrowmastersylvanaar: did you see my message about telltarget being bugged with xrealm?
01:02.41Azurewrathwhat?
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01:06.04sylvanaarArrowmaster: yes
01:06.28sylvanaarArrowmaster: i put in a fix this am, can you confirm it
01:06.53Arrowmasterill check next time im in a bg
01:07.11sylvanaarcool
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01:09.45CIA-1703Tristan * r21333 10FuBar_RLAssistFu/Core.lua:
01:09.45CIA-17FuBar_RLAssistFu:
01:09.45CIA-17- Now correctly spam /rw if you are promoted on pull :)
01:10.13JoshBork1bye all
01:11.04sylvanaaralso fixed the keybind as well
01:12.27Grollanyone got any idea why the heck i cant attack a rare spawn that is yellow to me? :P i get the "i cant attack that" speech :P
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01:12.38Grollsome owl in felwood
01:12.55sylvanaarplay the other faction
01:13.06Barbanusbecause you arent at war with them.
01:13.26Grollaaah doh
01:13.32BarbanusThey are neutral, same as the guards in BB when you first start your character. cant attack them either
01:13.34Grollit's cenarion i see now lol :P
01:13.38sylvanaarloves me some clearfont btw
01:13.41Barbanuslol
01:13.45CIA-1703rabbit * r21334 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Can disable in battlegrounds if Tourist-2.0 is available.
01:13.54Grollbah he dropped crap anyway :P
01:13.56Barbanussylv, I'm gonna test the channel thing now
01:14.10BarbanusAfter I update ... heh
01:14.26sylvanaarBarbanus: cool, remember to uncomment it in the toc
01:14.31BarbanusYep :)
01:15.07BarbanusMan, like every mod updated since I used WAU 2 days ago ... lol
01:15.40AelielUsing Chronometer, I get a "-------" line added to my chatframe every time a bar appears on my screen (every time I cast a HoT / DoT / other timed ability), any ideas?
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01:15.47vhaarrAeliel: I fixed that already.
01:16.16Barbanuslol ironic, right after I said "like every mod updated since I used WAU 2 days ago" :P
01:16.16CIA-1703rabbit * r21335 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Reset inBattleground when we disable the option.
01:16.51Aelielvhaarr: ok, will get the update then
01:17.19Barbanussylvanaar, Just need to uncomment "modules\ChannelRenumbering.lua" right?
01:19.36abyssichateFor those who are using OneBag/OneBank, does it happen that as soon as you load your UI and let's say you open your bags, the memory increase goes to the stars with 150ish KiB/s ?
01:20.29sylvanaarBarbanus: yes
01:20.31CIA-1703ominous * r21336 10FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu/Core.lua:
01:20.31CIA-17FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu:
01:20.31CIA-17-added popup about rename of mod due to the fact its mroe a rogue timer not a rogue stun timer
01:20.38BarbanusMeh, i get a crapload of mem usage when I login regardless.... force a GC, and it drops down a ton.
01:20.58vhaarrYou're probably running with embedded libs.
01:21.05BarbanusAnd, I sure am!
01:21.06abyssichateThat's because you are using externals for every addon
01:21.12BarbanusWhich is why I dont care :)
01:21.24abyssichateI wasn't speaking about allocated memory though
01:21.27vhaarrIt doesn't matter, as you say, on the first GC, it's all cleaned up.
01:22.46BarbanusIs it just me ... or is garbage held onto A LOT longer now than before?
01:22.52Barbanus(its possible its just me :P)
01:23.00abyssichateI noticed that too
01:23.15abyssichatebut then again I've set a larger memory available for AddOns, so that might be why
01:23.23sylvanaarwell, that would do it
01:23.54BarbanusI'm not sure I've changed that ... but I am not sure TBH.
01:24.54sylvanaari dont care if it uses alot of memory as long as it runs fast
01:24.58Barbanussylvanaar, okay, so I enabled the module, saved my channels, and then relogged. They all got pushed to the front again (EG: channel 5 gets pushed to 4, 6 to 5, etc. When I want 4 to be nothing)
01:25.16sylvanaardo a sort
01:25.21CIA-1703rabbit * r21337 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Reword stuff so the logic is easier to comprehend.
01:26.51Barbanusooo, that did it .. however the sort on load just ordered them alphabetically
01:27.16sylvanaar>< really?
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01:27.27BarbanusLemme try it again
01:27.39BarbanusOnce this guild member finishes saying goodbye :P
01:27.47CIA-1703rabbit * r21338 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0: Fix tabbing through AceOptions where .hidden is a function.
01:27.54sylvanaarit runs the same function
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01:28.50kenlyriclol... if he has to finish it, it's already too long.
01:29.14ZenhamHi, I'm sorry if this is an FAQ but I've searched and haven't found much online, I was wondering what developer tools would be a good base set to start with for someone wanting to develop with Ace2.
01:29.26ZenhamI've got ImprovedErrorFrames, but I'd really like some more... useful... tools :)
01:29.33vhaarrZenham: cream.sf.net, DevTools, BugSack, !BugGrabber and the wiki.
01:29.56CairennZenham: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat35.html
01:30.24Zenhamah, thanks. Yes, the wiki rocks... been reading much over the past week. And thank you for there references, I'll go look
01:30.25vhaarrExcept you should get BugSack and BugGrabber from the SVN.
01:30.42vhaarrSince I've yet to update them on wowinterface, but I plan to later today.
01:31.06vhaarrZenham: Other than that, AceConsole comes with a very powerful /print command.
01:31.13kergothBarbanus, the gc is incremental... and it might not be aggressive enough to free up increments as fast as stuff is being allocated
01:31.16vhaarrIt's like the /dump in DevTools, just better.
01:31.20ZenhamFunny you should mention that, I just put the updater on my machine.... *checkbox*
01:32.07BarbanusUhhh weird ... the autosort moved my general, trade, and LocalDef to 8, 9, 10. My channels that are supposed to be 5, 6, 7, 8 are 2, 3, 4, 5
01:32.52BarbanusSeems its getting confused with the order the channels are autojoined in ... like its running the sort before you join general, trade, localdef, etc
01:32.55ZenhamAh, excellent, thank you. I've written code for years, Lua is new to me (but the syntax is quuickly becoming familiar), so hopefully these references and frequent googling/wiki'ing will keep me from asking too many stupid questions.
01:33.25Tekkubhttp://www.furaffinity.net/view/331364/
01:33.43vhaarrZenham: Ace is actually a lot easier to learn than standard WoW addon development, I suggest you start with Ace and when you're confident, you move to a non-Ace environment, if you ever will.
01:33.47Barbanuskergoth, ahh is that changed from before?
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01:34.22vhaarrZenham: I don't think you ever will, but that's another story.
01:34.54BarbanusIf I let it load, and manually run the sort, its perfectly fine.
01:35.34Barbanus(I'm pretty sure its a problem with it sorting before I join General, Trade, LocalDef, etc. on the sort on load)
01:35.50ZenhamCream is a new one on me (although I'm vim/vi-comfy). Does it happen to have Lua syntax bindings, or is it just that it's a nifty editor? :)  And yup, I quickly decided that I'd rather use a framework, and Ace quite happily seems to fit the bill. I'm not planning on anything truly major, but you never know.
01:36.02sylvanaarBarbanus: hm...
01:36.18vhaarrZenham: It supports Lua, but I just gave you the link because I like using it when I'm on windows.
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01:36.56ZenhamFair enough :)  I'm a linux/unix geek by trade, so I like vi-alikes :)
01:37.16vhaarrZenham: A lot of the people in here run WoW through wine/cedega.
01:39.56Barbanuswoot, cashwinglair tonight
01:39.57CIA-1703sayclub * r21339 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
01:39.57CIA-17Babble-2.2:
01:39.57CIA-17- update locals for koKR
01:40.00ZenhamUnfortunately my linux desktop here isn't in posession of a video card to make WoW really possible, but my kvm is my friend. Now, I actually have a reason to upgrade the linux box though... hmm
01:40.27ZenhamThank you for the answers and suggestions, I've chatlogged and I'm making bookmarks now for the parts I don't already have installed.
01:40.47xgravixWarden doesn't work too good on linucks
01:40.50vhaarrZenham: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
01:40.51BarbanusZenham, almost everyone here is pretty friendly
01:41.16BarbanusQuestions usually are welcome :P
01:41.26Barbanus~kergoth
01:41.28purl[kergoth] Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for CSC, Inc. in Phoenix, AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib.  Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass.  Newbies and the clueless beware.  Email at clarson@kergoth.com.
01:41.38Barbanus^^ watch out for him :P
01:42.02xgravix~bofh
01:42.03purlfrom memory, bofh is Bastard Operator From Hell - see http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/
01:42.07xgravixnice
01:43.00sylvanaarBarbanus: ok, you want me to commit a fix or can you edit your copy?
01:43.21CIA-1703ominous * r21340 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/:
01:43.21CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
01:43.21CIA-17-formerly FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu, renamed due to mod expanding
01:43.29BarbanusI can edit
01:43.49sylvanaarBarbanus: line 209: self:ScheduleEvent("Sort", self.Sort, 1, self)
01:45.13sylvanaarBarbanus: replaes self:Sort()
01:45.19Pkekyoexactly what is Babble?
01:45.28sylvanaar~babble
01:45.33Barbanuskk, testing it now
01:46.02Barbanuswoot, that did it
01:46.18sylvanaaryay
01:46.50BarbanusAwesome addition :) Thanks
01:47.20sylvanaarwhat did it do when you first ran it - was it in the disabled section?
01:47.28BarbanusYep, it was
01:47.34sylvanaarcool
01:48.17Aelielget the following errors when trying Prat with the chatlog module (latest release off /files): http://ace.pastey.net/3759
01:48.45CIA-1703rabbit * r21341 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: No sense in having 1 submenu, move all the options up one level.
01:48.58BarbanusI had a problem the other day with disabling the channelnames module, and the channel names stayed changed
01:49.07BarbanusNot sure how to reproduce it tho
01:49.11abyssichateIs there any alternative to OneBag ?
01:49.20Barbanushappens on my mage, but none of my other characters.
01:49.26sylvanaarAeliel: argh regression errors
01:49.29CIA-1703ominous * r21342 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/ (8 files):
01:49.29CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
01:49.29CIA-17-Update due to name change
01:49.51BarbanusI know, that was the worlds worst bug report :P
01:50.18AelielBarbanus: that happened to me too, fwiw - a relog fixed it and it's not happened since, so I forgot about it
01:52.04ZenhamThanks for the kind welcome Barnabus, I'm always a little cautious when I ask questions of busy people who know far more in a realm than I do :)  
01:52.14BarbanusAhh okay so I can reproduce it ... set a channel to replace .. then disable the module ... then enable it ... unset replace .. and its still replaced.
01:52.15CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21343 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules/ChannelRenumbering.lua modules/ChatLog.lua): Prat: Bugfix for chatlog + enable the channel numbering module (default off)
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01:52.17ZenhamThat's experience triumphing over hope
01:53.01CIA-1703ominous * r21344 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Core.lua:
01:53.01CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
01:53.01CIA-17-little change
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01:53.41sylvanaarhm what
01:53.53BarbanusLOL
01:54.07CIA-1703quetz * r21345 10Q_FWG/Q_FWG.toc: Q_FWG: TOC update
01:54.11CIA-1703sayclub * r21346 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: update locals for koKR
01:54.42BarbanusK, so enable the channelNames module. Set guild Replace to on ... then disable the module. Re-enable the module ... set guild replace to off ... it will still replace guild with [G]
01:55.39PkekyoWTB [Sleep] in large quantities!
01:56.24Aeliel[Sleep]: unknown item. You may click this link to try and get a tooltip from the server, but you may get disconnected.
01:57.04Zenham[Sleep] can be temporarily be overriden by the coffee buff
01:57.37Pkekyosomeone buff me with coffee please
01:57.53Pkekyoshite, school in three hours
01:58.08sylvanaarBarbanus: trying
01:59.03sylvanaarBarbanus: kek ok
01:59.12Barbanusits a weird one eh?
01:59.39Pkekyobarbadus: what addon is this all about?
02:00.10BarbanusPrat
02:00.26Pkekyoah
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02:00.49Pkekyodo you remember if it replaces Battleground with BG or only B?
02:01.30Barbanus[BG] by default
02:01.36Barbanus[BL] is the bg leader
02:02.02Pkekyook
02:03.29Pkekyowell, sod this, I'm off for school...
02:03.29Pkekyog'nite everyone!
02:03.38Barbanuslater
02:03.48Ominouskaelton: you here?
02:04.18ckknightOminous, jeeze, spell people's names correctly
02:04.59Ominousoops, i am tired, its middle of the night here xD
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02:05.47Barbanusmy guild members "misspell" my name Barbedanus .. all of the keys must be stuck together or something
02:05.58CIA-1703ominous * r21347 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/FuBar_RogueTimerFu.toc:
02:05.58CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
02:05.58CIA-17-touch up the toc
02:07.13Gnarfozhm
02:07.27BarbanusOminous, are you touching the toc to get the zip built?
02:07.32Barbanusif you are ... you dont need to
02:07.40Gnarfozkergoth: Felweed seems to be defined twice in Cartographer_Herbalism
02:07.41Ominousnope, that was to get the .toc data populated
02:07.54BarbanusAhhh k :)
02:08.01Ominousi know 20mins
02:08.07BarbanusThe new cron is great now :)
02:08.40Gnarfozhttp://i12.tinypic.com/30agtqv.jpg < hurr hurr :D
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02:14.14Gnarfoztook the time to re-create transparent graphics for all herbs :\ they look nice now ^^
02:19.47sylvanaarBarbanus: no luck reproducing it
02:20.29sylvanaarBarbanus: i did however notice that it will let you make settings on the disabled modules which will just be ignored
02:20.40XuerianGo a little crazy there gnarfoz?
02:21.20GnarfozXuerian: no wai? ^^
02:21.30Xuerianlol.
02:22.08GnarfozI've been using Gatherer for 2 years now, can't stand the look of Blizzards own icons used for that purpose (with their black background and border, normally intended for use in inventory slots)
02:22.18sylvanaarBarbanus: oh damn, wait, my version has a change in it
02:22.22Barbanushaha
02:22.26BarbanusMaybe you fixed it? :P
02:22.30Gnarfozgatherer had it's own icons, also, but theirs are only 16x16 o_O they don't scale at all :D
02:25.08sylvanaarBarbanus: no still cant recreate it
02:25.27sylvanaarBarbanus: reload your ui
02:26.12sylvanaarBarbanus: wait, are you using the fubar?
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02:26.33[Cu]Werikvhaarr, you are late, off I go :P
02:26.33kebinusanI started using altnerativeblips I like the little dots on my minimap better than herb icons
02:26.35[Cu]Weriknn
02:26.41vhaarr[Cu]Werik: nn :P
02:27.00Gnarfozkebinusan: is that an addon?
02:27.15kebinusanyea
02:27.26zoktarah chartographer is sort of like metamap or alphamap?
02:27.34kebinusanIts part of epoxy ui pack on wowi, I dunno if its seperate
02:27.49kebinusanthe dots look alot better imo
02:28.10ckknightzoktar, yes
02:28.25zoktarnice cus metamap today leaked to 70mb ;P
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02:28.51Gnarfozerrr but, kebinusan, those icons only get used by blizzards UI, right?
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02:29.31kebinusancart herbalism needs an option to turn off the minimap circles
02:30.04Gnarfozhuh? what should it do instead of the circles then?
02:30.11Gnarfoz(i.e. if they are turned off)
02:30.17zoktari saw an addon that pinged your minimap when a herb or mine shows up on it
02:30.24zoktaranyone have a addon like that?
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02:30.44kebinusanGnarfoz: Not sure what you mean, it just uses a custom texture for minimap blips
02:31.25kebinusanI generally dont care to see herb icons on my minimap, if Im gathering I pick anything that shows up
02:31.28Gnarfozkebinusan: yeah, but you said you started using it because you like the dots better than herb icons - but that addon does not change any herb icons :D
02:31.44GorlumHello everybody.
02:31.54Gnarfozhi Gorlum
02:32.04kebinusanno, the herb icons are kinda new, I think they were added yesterday, probably why there isnt an option to disable them
02:32.18zoktarwell most of the time i dont bother gathering cus i cant be botherd to watch the minimap, but if it pinged when it showed up i might go grab it
02:32.21Gnarfoznow it's getting confusing :D
02:32.28GorlumIs it known when forums would be up?
02:34.34GorlumOr may be can just help me with some ace's addons? I'm curious about EQCompare.
02:35.25sylvanaarBarbanus: i see it now
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02:46.01CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21348 10Prat/modules/ChannelNames.lua: Prat: Fiz not preserving channel name replacement options through a module disable
02:46.09Ominousohh didnt know u cld join av as a grp using JoinBattlefield(0, 1);
02:46.17sylvanaaryep
02:47.58CIA-1703rabbit 07Rabbit * r21349 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: The code no longer makes purl cry.
02:49.59CIA-1703damjau * r21350 10FruityLoots/FruityLoots-koKR.lua: FruityLoots - update koKR locals
02:53.53Ominousckknight: do you mind if i add to bable spell to add the icon for cloak of shadows, which is Spell_Shadow_NetherCloak
02:54.40vhaarrno
02:55.58CIA-1703sayclub * r21351 10Q_FWG/ (Q_FWG.toc localisation.koKR.lua): Q_FWG: Added locals koKR(by turtl)
02:56.11vhaarrOminous: Go ahead.
02:56.29CIA-1703rabbit * r21352 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: koKR mistake.
02:57.05vhaarrCairenn: Hey, any chance we'll get co-maintainer functionality at wowinterface?
02:57.15vhaarrCairenn: So that more than one login can modify an addon.
02:57.27Cairennvhaarr: something we've been working on for a while now, just pure lack of time on Dolby's part
02:57.48vhaarrCairenn: Nice, that'll be sweet, I whipped curse into adding it recently.
02:58.23CIA-1703ominous * r21353 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
02:58.23CIA-17Babble-2.2:
02:58.23CIA-17-added Cloak of Shadows icon
02:58.34vhaarrThey were going to add it anyway, but I whined every day until they did :P
02:58.35CIA-1703nargiddley * r21354 10MainAssist/ (MainAssist.lua MainAssist.toc Readme.txt):
02:58.35CIA-17MainAssist:
02:58.35CIA-17- Readme + version numbers updated for releasing version 2.3
02:58.47CIA-1703xuerian * r21355 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway-1.0/AnchorsAway-1.0.lua: AnchorsAway: Lingering fixes to iteratetable, menu refreshing, safe options upgrades, and, scale for stacks.
02:59.02kebinusanis it possible to do a /target mobname macro that wont target dead mobs
02:59.06Cairennif he had more time or more help, it along with a lot of other things, would already be there, but since he has to do it all himself around his "real" job and is doing it for more than just the one site ... things take time, unfortunately
02:59.39CIA-1703ominous * r21356 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Core.lua:
02:59.39CIA-17FuBar_RogueTimerFu:
02:59.39CIA-17-tweak to get new BS lib
03:00.16vhaarrCairenn: I'm guessing "help" implies several days if not weeks to get to know the site code and then even longer to actually produce any results - I'd help, but not with anything this huge.
03:00.17KemayoIs there an example of doing radio buttons with an aceoptions table out there somewhere?
03:00.23vhaarrKemayo: Several.
03:00.48vhaarrKemayo: Basically, you make a type="text" with a validate = table.
03:01.04XuerianKemayo: If you just need a simple menu, use the text method
03:01.05vhaarrvalidate = {table}, that is.
03:01.11Cairennvhaarr: heh, yeah, you could say that ... we've had people volunteer to help before, they've gotten one look at the code and gone "holy shit, this is way the hell over my head" ...
03:01.20vhaarrCairenn: right
03:01.39Dranorhm... i'm familiar with that situation
03:01.55XuerianKemayo: If you want those radio buttons in a menu with something else, then you want 'isRadio', true
03:02.00Xuerian(on toggles)
03:02.12KemayoXuerian: Gotcha.
03:02.34CairennI'd love to have the money to have him on the site full time programming with another person at least part time, if not full time as well, but we don't, so we don't, so we just do the best we can and keep on trucking along
03:03.02XuerianAnd you all have done a excellent job, Cairenn =)
03:03.09vhaarrindeed, it's no biggie, I've got Ammos login to update BigWigs, but it doesn't work for everyone.
03:03.29vhaarrs/it/that/
03:03.37vhaarrheh
03:03.43Cairenn:)
03:06.06abyssichateWhy isn't ShardAce in the SVN by the way
03:06.08abyssichate+?
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03:08.09vhaarrYou'd have to ask the author.
03:08.43abyssichateRIght
03:09.12CIA-1703antiarc * r21357 10Sanity2/ (6 files):
03:09.12CIA-17Sanity2:
03:09.12CIA-17- Fixed the filled_slots error in the FuBar plugin
03:09.12CIA-17- Fixed a problem with the bank not updating properly.
03:09.12CIA-17- Fixed a problem that prevents you from linking alts' inventories.
03:09.13CIA-17- Fixed a problem that caused the keyring's 32 slots to count in your total bagspace.
03:09.15CIA-17- Overhauled the interface, reparented basically the entire view, and reorganized the UI.
03:09.35Daemonahey purl, interested in transcriptor logs? for bigwigs implementation?
03:09.43Daemona(closed beta)
03:09.52Antiar1I suspect purl is very interested.
03:15.28DranorAntiarc: any plans on including all alts when searching?
03:15.49kergothmeh, the chronometer find weakness support is weak
03:16.14AntiarcDranor: Yup, that's next on the todo list :)
03:16.24Dranorcool
03:16.34AntiarcMy computer blew up Thursday and I just got it put back together last night, so no Sanity dev all weekend :(
03:16.46zoktarcan u check items in bank when not at bank in sanity2 now?
03:16.48Ominousare any bigwigs authors here?
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03:17.28vhaarrOminous: yes?
03:17.42Ominousmaybe it would be good to not make it load when in a raid grp in BGs
03:18.27Antiarczoktar: Yup
03:18.28Kirkburn|afkOooh, follow up to something I posted earlier: the flying mount falling change is a BUG. It will be fixed!
03:18.36vhaarrI'm guessing ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA fires before you join the actual raid group, in which case it'd be .. not hard, but annoying to fix.
03:18.36AntiarcI think I've got the last of those bugs worked out. If not, please lemme know :)
03:19.11vhaarrOminous: In any case, only the core enables, it doesn't actually do anything.
03:19.36vhaarror, well, that's not true,.
03:19.46vhaarrIt monitors target changes and mouseover targets.
03:20.18Ominousoki
03:20.43vhaarrhm, but it only does that if you're in a zone that has a registered boss
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03:20.56vhaarrso unless someone makes a bossmod for the AV guy, BW won't do anything in a BG
03:20.57abyssichateOuch, ShardAce now comes with the to-cursor positioning, I can finally trash shardtracker resurrection/3g and stuff, yay
03:21.03Ominousoki
03:21.20abyssichatevhaarr: do you use OneBag by any chance ?
03:21.24vhaarrno
03:21.34abyssichateNo bags addon at all?
03:21.40Amadeovhaarr: I just noticed there's an Orc NPC named Vharr in Grom'Gol :)
03:21.40vhaarrbagnon
03:21.48vhaarrAmadeo: really? o_O
03:21.49Amadeoyeah
03:21.50Amadeohaha
03:21.52vhaarrrofl
03:22.02Ominoussue blizz
03:22.14abyssichateThe new version is the one called vbagnon, isn't it?
03:22.15AmadeoSuperior Weaponsmith
03:22.25Kirkburn|afkabyssichate, yes
03:22.27vhaarrThat's me, no doubt.
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03:23.14boobies4uguys
03:23.33boobies4uwhy do i get that popup message sometimes when i loot corpses, that a function bla bla bla ignore or disable box
03:24.01abyssichateoh, I tried that too. I happen to have an instant and rapid memory increase valued for about 130 KiB everytime I open a bag when using either vbagnon or onebag. I just wanted to know if that is only me or a common behaviour of bag addons
03:24.04Daemonaboobies4u no idea, but i only get it if a corpse has only gold in it and i use xloot ,)
03:24.13boobies4udamn
03:24.15Xuerianboobies4u: ...
03:24.27Xuerianboobies4u: Have you updated said XLoot in the last ... day or so?
03:24.36boobies4ui dont use any loot addons
03:24.52XuerianOh.
03:24.53XuerianBlah.
03:24.53XuerianThen Daemona, have you?
03:24.56Nargiddleyi'm not seeing any memory spikes with vBagnon right now
03:25.01zoktarAntiarc lol didnt see the arrow on the left side
03:25.11Xuerianboobies4u: As for you, whenever a addon hooks StaticPopup, it will throw those errors
03:25.23abyssichateNot even the first time you open your bags after a reaload UI command, Nargiddley?
03:25.23boobies4uXuerian, how can i "fix" this?`
03:25.29boobies4ui use only ace2 addons
03:25.35Nargiddleynot sure
03:25.36Tekkubanyone know a good (free) ISO image masterer?
03:25.37boobies4uand i update them with WAU every night
03:25.44Nargiddleyi'll try
03:25.56Nargiddleybut even opening and closing really fast added maybe 2k/s
03:26.10DaemonaXuerian, my xloot is at least from this afternoon, as i ran wowaceupdater while playing beta ,)
03:26.13Xuerianboobies4u: do a text search on your addons folder for STATIC_POPUP or StaticPopup_ and see what uses it? >.>
03:26.19XuerianDaemona: ..... <twitch>
03:26.28abyssichateIf you could try reloading the UI and repeating the procedure I'd be grateful, Nargiddley, thanks
03:26.41XuerianDaemona: So you're playing on the beta server, right?
03:26.59Daemonano on beta i use plain blizzard ui ;)
03:27.07Nargiddleyspiked to 80k/s as i opened them first time, not again after
03:27.13Daemonabut currently i dont get xloot errors while in av :P
03:28.06XuerianDaemona: Good, because I fixed that problem. Fixed, fixed, worked around, jumped around, snuck around, knocked out then walked by, kidnapped, executed, eliminated vaporized, teleported and otherwise removed that bug... >_>
03:28.11Xuerian~xuerian
03:28.20purlACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random.
03:28.42abyssichateok, thanks for hte test, Nargiddley
03:28.45abyssichate*the
03:28.48Daemonapurl? read that up there about transcriptor logs form closed beta stuff? ^^
03:29.50zoktarwhat was that barmod called that had round bars like actionbars in a circle?
03:30.00XuerianTrinity?
03:30.07zoktarah thnx
03:30.07KemayoTekkub: On Windows?  I like burnatonce.
03:30.24Tekkubdankido
03:32.02abyssichatejust tried to repeatedly close and open my bags, duh http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7121/wowscrnshot121706151749hl5.jpg
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03:32.52KemayoI am deeply disappointed that "%s%d":format("foo", 1) doesn't work.
03:34.26kergothbecause you have to use parens
03:34.45kergoth{1,2,3}[1] isnt valid
03:34.49kergoth({1,2,3})[1] is
03:34.53kergothsame is true for indexing strings
03:35.05KemayoHuh.  Okay.
03:35.42KemayoI remain disappointed that the parens are necessary, though.
03:36.14boobies4ui find NO files in my Addon folder, and subfolders containing StaticPopup
03:36.22boobies4uand im not searching with case sensitive
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03:37.49SkorcherXmy AG unitframes... the party frames.. are unclickable. Is there a setting im missing?
03:41.43CIA-1703kemayo * r21359 10ColaLight/ (ColaLight-enUS.lua ColaLight-koKR.lua Core.lua): ColaLight: Option to choose style of non-coin price text.
03:42.17CIA-1703prandur * r21360 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fixed pattern for en CR_SPELLHIT and CR_SPELLCRIT
03:42.24zoktarcan u check your dkp from a eqdkp list with dkpmon bidder or dkpmoninit ?
03:42.29CIA-1703rabbit 07Rabbit * r21361 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (GroupFu.lua GroupFuLocal-enUS.lua): FuBar_GroupFu: More cleanup, fix some bugs.
03:43.33CIA-1703kemayo * r21362 10ColaHeavy/: ColaHeavy: Delete, for this branch is now pointless.
03:43.52CIA-1703ricowan * r21363 10RicoMiniMap/ (13 files):
03:43.52CIA-17RicoMiniMap: initial commit
03:43.52CIA-17- Changes the shape and position of the minimap, hides parts of the standard minimap, etc.
03:43.53zoktarhmm seems u can only query rl for current points
03:46.47KemayoRight.  Now... delving into the innards of the quest log.
03:48.26Prophyycan we delete RosterLib-2.0 folder?
03:49.13Kemayovhaarr: Do you know something offhand that reliably replicates the jumbled text on expansion thing?  (I get no-levels on expansion, but the names are all in the right places.)
03:49.41vhaarrKemayo: I have two categories that appear twice.
03:49.51vhaarr"Auchindoun" and "Tempest Keep"
03:50.09zoktarwhat addon u guys use to check your dkp ingame?
03:50.24KemayoThat's the weird Blizzard bug, right?
03:50.29vhaarrKemayo: probably
03:50.50vhaarrKemayo: I used to just have "Tempest Keep" x2, but now I got Auchindoun as well.
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03:51.20vhaarrProphyy: No, why would we do that?
03:51.32KemayoI don't have any characters high level enough to go through the portal in the expansion and pick up those quests.  So it's hard to debug.
03:52.01vhaarrKemayo: They're long quest chains as well, you can't just "pick them up".
03:52.14KemayoFigures, I say.
03:52.19vhaarr:/
03:52.54vhaarrIt's definetely a Blizzard bug, and it pains me that they haven't fixed it. I reported it like 2 patches ago.
03:57.46KemayoAnd QuestsFu only shows the quests for one of those headers, right?
03:58.13vhaarryes
03:58.20KemayoI'll have a shot at fixing that.
03:58.21vhaarrbut it shows both headers
03:58.29vhaarrjust the same quest in both
03:58.29Kemayo...
03:58.37KemayoOh, right.  I know why that is.
04:00.03CIA-1703rabbit 07Rabbit * r21364 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Yay for GetThresholdHexColor and its magic.
04:00.52CIA-1703kemayo * r21365 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua:
04:00.52CIA-17Quixote:
04:00.52CIA-17-Quick fix for Vhaarr's *interesting* dual-zone expansion dungeon bug. (It's Blizz's fault, but hey, might as well make it work.)
04:00.52CIA-17-Flesh out the library header.
04:01.03vhaarr:D
04:01.06Kemayovhaarr: I think that will make it show all the quests under one header in QuestsFu.
04:01.36CIA-1703ricowan * r21366 10RicoMiniMap/:
04:01.36CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
04:01.36CIA-17-
04:01.36CIA-17First commit
04:01.54KemayoI even checked to make sure it didn't break anything before I committed.  Am I not merciful?
04:02.07vhaarrKemayo: works!
04:02.11KemayoYay!
04:02.12vhaarrlol
04:02.40vhaarrThis is great, working around Blizzard bugs that make the default Blizzard component useless.
04:03.00GorlumIs it any chance to update Ace2 with WowAceUpdater from SVN?
04:03.37KemayoI could *probably* hack the questlog into not doing that, too.  But it's far too much work.
04:04.02kebinusanyou know I can never remember what quixote is supposed to do
04:04.07Ominousgorlum what do u mean
04:04.17zoktaris there a fubardkp ? =P
04:04.26kebinusanah quests thats right
04:04.29Kemayokebinusan: Quest log functions.
04:04.37CIA-1703ricowan * r21367 10RicoMiniMap/RicoMiniMap.toc:
04:04.37CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
04:04.37CIA-17-
04:04.37CIA-17fixed AceLibrary reference
04:04.44KemayoIt also shares quest completion information between users.  :D
04:04.49vhaarr~seen ricowan
04:04.57purlvhaarr: i haven't seen 'ricowan'
04:04.59GorlumOminous: When I trying to update Ace2 with WowAceUpdater it said "It's appear to be a subversion working copy"
04:05.02vhaarr~whalecrit ricowan
04:05.06purlACTION crits ricowan with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. ricowan dies
04:05.11GorlumOminous: And no updates
04:05.27KemayoGorlum: Delete Ace2, create an empty folder called Ace2, and run WAU again.
04:05.37DaemonaNaN = Not available Number? ^^
04:05.42Ominouskemayo: ur too quick
04:05.46kergothnot a number
04:06.34GorlumKeemayo, Ominous. Ah, "svn" folder! :)
04:06.49kebinusan~whaleambush kergoth
04:06.50purlACTION ambushes kergoth with Giovanni, a whale that's a bit too big to be a dagger
04:06.58Gorlum*Kemayo
04:07.03Ominousbasically if u get an addon by checkout from svn you cant use WAU to update it
04:07.07sylvanaaranyone know how to make x-perl raid frames wider?
04:07.28CIA-1703rabbit * r21368 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Beautify the tablet hint, phew.
04:07.34a-stray-catis there any way to get item ids offa thottbot?
04:08.21GorlumKemayo: Thanks, it helps.
04:09.03Kemayovhaarr: Ooo.  Colors.
04:09.15vhaarrKemayo: Aye, I've started introducing them as a standard.
04:09.16Daemonaa-stray-cat non but you can go to alakhazam and let it show xml -> that includes item id
04:09.57vhaarrKemayo: No linebreaks, use |cffeda55f for the clicks and Camel-Case them.
04:10.00a-stray-catcurses
04:10.38vhaarrKemayo: damn, forgot to add a '.'
04:10.41vhaarrat the end
04:11.06a-stray-cati wonder if i can script a small robot to use the shared cooldown info from thottbot and grab the proper item ids offa allakhazam
04:12.18Ominousplease can somone say my name
04:12.22CIA-1703sayclub * r21369 10GridSideIndicators/ (GridSideIndicators.toc GridSideIndicatorsLocale-koKR.lua): GridSideIndicators: Added locals koKR
04:12.36a-stray-catOminous: hi
04:12.43Ominousbah, thanks tho
04:12.47a-stray-catnp
04:13.06CIA-1703rabbit * r21370 10BugSack/ (6 files): BugSack: Color the tablet hint.
04:14.22CIA-1703rabbit * r21371 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-enUS.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Forgot a '.'.
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04:14.44CIA-1703kemayo * r21372 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: OnInitialize check for old-style watchedQuests and dump 'em.
04:14.45KemayoJust beat me to it, vhaarr.
04:14.52vhaarr^^
04:15.07Ominousplease can some say my name again
04:15.20KemayoAw, ckknight isn't here.  I can't bug him to fix AceComm. :(
04:15.25KemayoOminous: no.
04:15.28Ominousyay
04:15.29Ominousthanks
04:15.35vhaarr:P
04:15.38vhaarrKemayo: hooks?
04:16.42KemayoLibraries that embed AceComm have difficulty upgrading, because you can't reregister your prefix.
04:16.51vhaarrah
04:17.19Ominoushmm, is it better to make a frame in lua or in xml?
04:17.31vhaarrlua
04:17.37KemayoOminous: Depends what you're more comfortable with.  I like lua.
04:17.47KemayoIf you're learning for the first time, lua. :D
04:17.47Ominousoki
04:18.33nymbiaand the frame doesnt start taking up memory til it's drawn, whereas xml frames are always there -- helpful in some situations, not others ;)
04:18.40Ominousoki
04:18.51Kemayonymbia: You have an addon that embeds Quixote, right?
04:18.59nymbiaKemayo: yup
04:19.04KemayoWhich one is it?
04:19.08nymbiaGrindStatus
04:19.33zoktarbah cant find a simple addon to check your eqdkp :(
04:19.42KemayoOkay.  I'm thinking of hitting on the API a bit soon, so I wanted to work out whose addons I'd need to fix when I did that. :D
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04:20.09nymbiaKemayo: sounds good. ;)
04:20.54Arrowmaster40KB/s during panther fight in zg, some mod is going to die soon because i have 3fps
04:20.56KemayoAnything you particularly want in there which it currently lacks, by the way?
04:21.23GorlumPlease, advice me some replacement for MailTo, AutoBuff/Smartbuff addon. Of course, ace or ace2-based. In MailTo I'm mainly interested in quick-take option. MailExpress didn't fit 'cause it's opens mail window and slows mailbox looting.
04:21.36nymbiaKemayo: the API actually works pretty perfectly for what GrindStatus uses it for
04:22.16KemayoGorlum: I've never used MailTo... it sounds similar to BulkMail, though.
04:22.30CIA-1703ricowan * r21373 10RicoMiniMap/ (. RicoMiniMap.toc):
04:22.30CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
04:22.30CIA-17-
04:22.53KemayoNow *that's* an informative commit!
04:23.00nymbiahell yes.
04:23.10nymbianot that i havent done that once or twice.. ;)
04:23.31Ominoushehe
04:23.31vhaarrnymbia: I bet you didn't spam 3 useless lines when you did.
04:23.38vhaarr2, at most, but probably just 1.
04:23.43nymbiavhaarr: true enough
04:24.09Ominoushow do you make the second line stay on the first
04:24.15Arrowmasterdamagemeters 5.5.3 needs to DIAF for fucking spamming me with ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED messages about DamageMetersFrameBar1:Show()
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04:24.37Daemonahmmm
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04:25.06Daemonausing agUF with showgroups in AV is a real nice frozen screen generator upon BG end ^^
04:25.59GorlumKemayo: Thanks, I'll check.
04:27.53[Liquidor]Could you name me the addons used for developing? You know BugSack and some others.
04:28.28KemayoAll I'm using is: BugSack+BugGrabber, tekProber, and tekSupport.
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04:28.47Daemonalol? when did they serverside fix the Alterac Valley snowballs?
04:28.53[Liquidor]today =)
04:28.54Daemonai cant hit friendlyplayers anymore:(
04:28.56[Liquidor]or this night
04:29.09[Liquidor]heh I found out 2 hours ago
04:29.12Daemonawas SO nice to get rid of afk players at the entrance
04:29.15[Liquidor]shame :(
04:29.27Ominous:D
04:29.36Ominousas in good to get rid of afk ers
04:30.24Daemonai bet 100g that it was disabled because the alliance whined
04:30.33[Liquidor]ye ofc
04:30.44[Liquidor]we shoot ppl down into the valley of stormpike GY :>
04:30.44Ominousapparently they were according to a guild mate, they wanted them dissabled fully
04:31.34Ominoushow do you make it so that your addon commit only appear on one line instead of 2/3
04:32.06CIA-1703devla * r21374 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
04:32.06CIA-17Babble-2.2:
04:32.06CIA-17- Icons for ALL spells = finis
04:33.21NargiddleyOminous, have only one line as the comment
04:35.04Arrowmasterso yeah every 2 seconds my screen is freezing for 1 second
04:35.18Ominous:S
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04:42.41CIA-1703devla * r21375 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer.lua Data/Rogue.lua Textures/Steel.tga):
04:42.41CIA-17Chronometer:
04:42.41CIA-17- Added Steel Texture
04:42.41CIA-17- Added Cloak of Shadows (Rogue)
04:42.42CIA-17- Moved Shadowstep (Rogue) from Event to Spell
04:42.42CIA-17- Modified Find Weakness (Rogue), needs testing
04:43.09ckknighthey all
04:43.16Daemonare ckknight
04:43.23nymbiahey ck
04:43.38vhaarrhey
04:43.45Daemonadamn, at least the snowballs work on opp. faction
04:44.06Daemonai just fired a mage from a tower down into the gorge and *splat*
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04:46.38Ominoushmm think ill start looking at tablet tomorrow, any tips?
04:47.54[Liquidor]Sub Addons possible? Etc ../AddOns/addon_name/sub_addon_name/sub_addon_name.toc ?
04:48.41gngsk|like a module?
04:49.07[Liquidor]Dunno what it is, I just keep seing a lot of addons having .toc files further down the path
04:49.17gngsk|BigWigs/BigWigs.toc
04:49.23gngsk|BigWigs/AQ20/AQ20.toc
04:49.32Ominousthat is so they can be seperated into seperate addons when the are finished i think, maybe?
04:49.48zoktaranyone know a nice ingame dkp viewer that supports eqdkp ?
04:50.13Nargiddleythats for after they are seperated into seperate lod addons
04:50.19Nargiddleytheres a .bat that does it
04:51.24Ominousohh nice
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04:51.34Ominousdidnt no it did that, i just left it be :p
04:54.28kebinusanliquidor, if you run the bigwigslod.bat file it breaks out the boss mods into load on demand modules
04:54.55kebinusanso instead of bigwigs/Naxxramas you have addons/bigwigs_naxxramas
04:55.16CIA-1703ckknight * r21376 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory-2.0 - fix nil bug
05:03.14[Liquidor]kebinusan: okay
05:03.23[Liquidor]So it isn't a function for WoW directly
05:03.51nymbianope
05:07.07Ominoushow do u make a .bat file remove a directory with things in
05:09.17Noseyopen the batch file in notepad and take a peek :)
05:11.11Ominousi just worked it out /s and /q
05:13.05CIA-1703ckknight * r21377 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua:
05:13.05CIA-17.AceAddon-2.0 - now only runs OnInitialize if it is the addon's proper ADDON_LOADED and not another's.
05:13.05CIA-17This solves the issue of calling LoadAddOn() after declaring an addon but before declaring its OnInitialize.
05:14.24CIA-1703rabbit * r21378 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Fruitless attempt to cut down on load times.
05:18.53CIA-1703sano * r21379 10LoggerHead/ (7 files): LoggerHead: Initial Import. Automatically starts/stops the combat log for selected instances.
05:20.43vhaarr~seen sano
05:21.04purlsano <n=sano@mol92-4-82-227-96-95.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4d 19h 29m 17s ago, saying: '\_o< ~ coin !'.
05:21.04CIA-1703sano * r21380 10LoggerHead/FuBar_AceWardrobeFu.toc: LoggerHead: Removed file/folder. Doh, how'd that get in there
05:24.12CIA-1703ckknight * r21381 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: .Glory-2.0 - added methods :GetDamageDone([name]) and :GetHealingDone([name]) (Thanks, Liquidor)
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05:35.59slack0nehey, quick question, i'm sure it's something really simple
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05:36.21slack0nei've got a pretty tidy ui going, but the default unit frame for myself is showing overtop of things
05:36.28slack0nehow would i get rid of it?
05:37.02[Liquidor]Which addon are you using for your UF?
05:37.18slack0neag uf
05:37.30[Liquidor]ag_uf should hide the default ui
05:37.36[Liquidor]by default
05:37.42CIA-1703antiarc * r21382 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua SanityItemCache.lua):
05:37.42CIA-17Sanity2:
05:37.42CIA-17- Fixed the "menuItem" bug when mousing over the categories submenu of the search dropdown
05:37.42CIA-17- Fixed a couple of over-aggressive optimizations that caused old data to remain in the view
05:37.42CIA-17- Added the ability to set a tag to display its contents in the FuBar tooltip (search box dropdown -> Manage Tags)
05:37.43[Liquidor]uf*
05:37.49slack0neis there a settings somewhere?
05:38.01[Liquidor]well look in /aguf config
05:38.07[Liquidor]long time no use
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05:38.22slack0neyeah i've been all through the config
05:38.34[Liquidor]If not then you got some other addon interfering and showing your orig. UF
05:38.46[Liquidor]try update your ag_uf
05:38.53slack0neyeah it's fully recent
05:39.07[Liquidor]hmm addons?
05:39.21slack0nephotek, with a few others
05:39.25slack0nemainly the photek set though
05:40.14[Liquidor]isn't photek a compilation ?
05:40.21slack0neyup
05:40.49[Liquidor]hmm what do you got except from photek stuff ?
05:41.03[Liquidor]anything related to party, player, raid or frames at all?
05:41.09slack0nenope
05:41.16slack0nenecrosis, trinket menu
05:41.21slack0negrid
05:43.01slack0nei might just roll back from photek
05:43.14slack0nei have a backup from before i updated luckily
05:43.29[Liquidor]or just start a fresh one :)
05:43.50[Liquidor]delete everything and install addons again :> note that it's your own choice. I didn't force you
05:44.05slack0nehehe yeah
05:49.40CIA-1703rabbit * r21383 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
05:49.40CIA-17BigWigs:
05:49.40CIA-17<PROTECTED>
05:49.40CIA-17<PROTECTED>
05:49.57SkorcherXso hunted around www.flexbarforums.com and cant seem to find any info if it is at a working state, with button remaps and everything.  Any one have any info?
05:51.47CIA-1703rabbit * r21384 10BigWigs/Extras/Extras.toc: BigWigs: Extras: Fix deps.
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05:54.54CIA-1703sayclub * r21385 10Grid/ (12 files): Grid - Update locals koKR
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05:56.49XuerianSkorcherX: The author you're looking for is not here at the moment. Please put your finger on your nose, say "HIJIBBITY" three times ten times fast, then go sit on your thumbs till cncfanatic arrives.
06:01.27CIA-1703matini * r21386 10PlayerMenu/Locale.lua:
06:01.27CIA-17PlayerMenu:
06:01.27CIA-17- Add zhTW locale
06:03.23zoktaris it even possible to make a mod to bind chat tabs ?
06:07.30haarmwhere's a good place to grind some gold these days? I just worked out I need to start grinding around 60g per day now... if I want to come close to getting an epic flying mount at 70
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06:10.12neeneeThe best way to get gold is by buying items from the AH and re-selling them.
06:10.25Xuerianzoktar: people don't want to mess with chat frames due to tainting :P
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06:10.54neeneeI use 'bindchatkeys', an addon to for instance, bind 'alt+enter' to /p :)
06:11.23neeneebbs, shower.
06:11.24Xuerian\p is almost as fast for me to type o.o
06:14.01zoktaryeah but who has all the same channels in one tab?
06:14.57XuerianI have everything but /g in one tab =(
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06:22.55Arrowmasteranybody know if chatmats or something similar has been updated for 2.0, im getting so pissed off at these fuckers who keep asking for somebody to craft something and when i tell them i can make it the first thing they say is 'mats?'
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06:27.24ZealotOnAStickI think Manufac can link required mats?
06:27.52neeneezoktar: many people do, but I can't agree that's useful :P
06:28.31chuckgZealotOnAStick: cgCrafty can!
06:28.33chuckg=D
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06:30.13CIA-1703ricowan * r21387 10RicoMiniMap/ (5 files):
06:30.13CIA-17RicoMiniMap:
06:30.13CIA-17- Libraries should be fixed
06:30.13CIA-17- Added different minimap shapes
06:30.26neeneeWho can take my trash out... stomp it down for youu.. shake the plastic bag and do the twisty thingy too...
06:30.35neeneeThe garbage maaaan, yes the garbage man caan
06:30.41neenee:D
06:31.19ckknightgreat song
06:31.22neeneeyup
06:31.23neenee:)
06:31.28Xuerianpurl, awards neenee is "<replyneenee has the 'Most random garbage-collection related statement' award"
06:31.29purlokay, Xuerian
06:31.30Arrowmasteroh it can, thanks blindchuck
06:31.47neeneeWell that was quite anti-climactic purl
06:31.56Xuerian~awards neenee
06:31.58purl[awards neenee] "<replyneenee has the 'Most random garbage-collection related statement' award"
06:32.02Xuerian...
06:32.07Xueriannot even going to bother at this point.
06:32.11neeneehehe
06:32.14ckknightpurl, no awards neenee is <reply> neenee has the 'Most random garbage-collection related statement' award
06:32.16purlokay, ckknight
06:32.21ZealotOnAStick~awards Xuerian
06:32.23ckknight~awards neenee
06:32.24purlneenee has the 'Most random garbage-collection related statement' award
06:32.24Xueriandamnit ck.
06:32.26XuerianStop being right >.<
06:32.29neeneepurl, hug Xueran
06:32.30purlACTION hugs Xueran tightly until Xueran turns slightly blue
06:32.32neeneeyay ;)
06:33.19XuerianYeah I'm gonna go venture into the great continental icebox that is the outdoors now.
06:34.13[Liquidor]haarm: how much does a flying mount cost?
06:35.25XuerianThanks, neenee >.>
06:36.46neenee:)
06:37.02neeneeCatch enough gold-plated vendorfish with that and you'll have your mount in no time.
06:37.36neenee*Goldenscale vendorfish even
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06:40.57CIA-1703sayclub * r21388 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/POI.lua): Cartographer - Update locals koKR
06:42.08CIA-1703sayclub * r21389 10Cartographer_Import/Import.lua: Cartographer_Import - Added locals koKR
06:43.27XuerianThe one thing that really keeps me from wanting to use Cart is that the instance files are (were) in the core addon =\ 2mb download sucks. :P. Didn't really expect any less though. /random.
06:44.53ckknight3 megs now
06:45.08ckknightand they're still in there.
06:45.08Xuerians/2mb/3mb/
06:45.14ckknightI may split it out later
06:45.14Xuerian:P
06:45.29Xuerianlern2minimap
06:45.32ckknight3 megs isn't much.
06:45.51XuerianGeez I hate that phrase and I use it now. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME, WoW?!?! </outdoor voice>
06:45.54Arrowmasterhmm i think durabilityfu might be doing some tainting
06:45.58syerenckknight, would doing something like adding the otravi skin set to Chronometer be hard?
06:46.07ckknightsyeren, no idea
06:46.08SkorcherXwoot got my beta key today
06:46.11syerenThe only addon on my screen without it :/
06:46.13Xuerianckknight: Yeah, I know. :P
06:46.21ckknightand I sent a message to Niflheim about how he made the maps, but he hasn't responded
06:46.47XuerianMm, ah well
06:47.01neeneeCongratulations SkorcherX
06:47.31SkorcherXim stoked
06:47.35SkorcherXinstallingnow
06:47.44SkorcherXtook all day to download the client
06:48.04SkorcherXWish I would have gotten one earlier.
06:49.35Arrowmasterckknight: mind taking a look at this http://ace.pastey.net/3765
06:50.20ckknightah, I see
06:50.24syerenckknight, Are you speaking about the maps of the instances?
06:50.30ckknightsyeren, yes
06:50.44syerenGet me an updated MyWarcraftStudio and I'll give you all the maps.
06:50.45syeren:P
06:51.06syerenThey're just files in the patch.mpq ;P
06:51.20syerenI Save them asa .png, convert them to whatever you want them, and done.
06:51.30CIA-1703ckknight * r21390 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - no longer calls DurabilityFrame_SetAlerts, so should stop tainting
06:51.42ckknightsyeren, what I want instead is the links to the images in the mpq itself
06:51.53syerenIcan deliver you that then :P
06:52.02Arrowmasterit takes more than just extracting them, the ones in metamap are fugly compared to the atlas ones, the cart ones are good but i still think the atlas ones are the best
06:52.03syerenJust save the file path and give it you.
06:52.03syeren;p
06:52.23syerenArromaster, the ones from Atlas are simply zoomed and blurred.
06:52.26syerenRecolored a bit, and done.
06:52.27syeren;p
06:52.30syeren*Arrowmaster.
06:52.33Arrowmasterbut they look good
06:52.55Arrowmasterthe metamap ones are all jaged around the edges
06:53.38ckknightArrowmaster, if I get the blp paths, they will be pristine.
06:53.53ckknighttheoretically
06:53.58haarm[Liquidor], including discounts, 5400 for epic
06:54.12ckknightomg, that's how Atlas 2 does it
06:54.17[Liquidor]There's a non-epic and epic difference?
06:54.21haarmyes
06:54.22SkorcherXomg
06:54.22ckknightbut steals in such a way not to create copyright conflicts.
06:54.27SkorcherXinstallation error
06:54.28ckknightdamn GPL
06:54.32SkorcherXjesus christ!
06:54.34ckknightSkorcherX, I got that.
06:54.36ZealotOnAStickcan't you get into them with WinMPQ?
06:54.39ckknightI installed on my mom's comp
06:54.39SkorcherXyeah?
06:54.40haarmepic = 280% flying speed, non epic = 60% .. aka lvl 40 mount speed
06:54.43ckknightand copied over
06:54.54ckknightZealotOnAStick, yea, but Bliz obfuscates the path names
06:54.55SkorcherXwtf?
06:55.04SkorcherXthats retarded... well i dont have that luxary
06:55.11[Liquidor]hmm i don't have enough for an epic :-/
06:55.12Arrowmasterhaarm: how much does the non epic cost for the actual mount?
06:55.19[Liquidor]but you need level 70 for epic aight?
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06:55.29SkorcherXhow do i uninstall it and try again?
06:55.30[Liquidor]should be possible to get 1 or 2k at levle 70 i guess?
06:55.41Arrowmasteryeah
06:55.57ZealotOnAStickYou need L70 for flying mounts period, unless you're a Druid.
06:57.08SkorcherXWell do you think it has anythign to do with my upgrading my accoutn today and it not going into effect until maintenence?
06:57.35FeldiaI need to write a filter to catch everything CIA-17 says and send it to a different window
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07:00.51SkorcherXckknight: what directory did you install it in?
07:01.24ckknightjust the normal one
07:02.00ckknightgah
07:02.01ckknightKemayo
07:02.02ckknightFuBar_QuestsFu-2.0.21372\QuestsFu.lua:275: attempt to index a nil value
07:02.03ckknight(tail call): ?:
07:02.03ckknight<in C code>: in function `QuestLog_Update'
07:02.10ckknightI get that a few times
07:02.18neeneewoo! opera 9.1 is here :)
07:02.34ckknightneenee, yea, I've been using it for a while
07:02.37SkorcherXim re installing into "program files..."
07:02.39Mikmamoo
07:02.57neenee:)
07:03.10neeneeI'm just waiting for an update of opera usb now ;)
07:03.10haarmArrowmaster, 180 including discount
07:03.24haarm720 for the riding skill, with discount
07:04.11Barbanusrofl, 171 AB wins, 12 losses
07:04.15BarbanusI love guild groups
07:04.22haarmor was it just 80 for the mount, might have been
07:05.07zoktaranyone us comix here?
07:05.48CIA-1703antiarc * r21391 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua Sanity.xml SanityDisplay.lua):
07:05.48CIA-17Sanity2:
07:05.48CIA-17- Added a special "All Characters" character index. You can now use this to search across all your characters' inventories.
07:05.48CIA-17- Added tags to the category list on the right.
07:07.51zoktarwhere can i checkup on wow "secure" functions
07:07.52zoktar?
07:09.12zoomjrhttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p141/Papaya_07/endgamehh2.jpg?t=1164324024
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07:09.57Xuerianzoktar: The biggest pitfall isn't secure functions themselves
07:10.24Xuerianzoktar: It's functions in blizzard code that are effectively but not apparently secure, that somewhere down the line, complain about being tainted.
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07:10.40zoktarhmm
07:10.51zoktartrying to get this shake screen to work
07:11.13ckknightthat is awesome, zoomjr
07:11.23ckknightzoktar, maybe move UIParent?
07:12.36Xueriannn. o/
07:14.19zoktarit doesnt like WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints();
07:15.00zoktaror WorldFrame:SetPoint
07:15.33XuerianMight want to take a peek at the various addon threads on the forums about making viewports
07:15.43XuerianThey seem to mess with the rendering frame.
07:16.52zoktarhmm know any viewport that works?
07:17.07XuerianI don't use viewports.
07:17.12XuerianThus me pointing you at the forums ;)
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07:17.27Xuerianpurl, point at the forums
07:17.30purlACTION points at at the forums with snickers and giggles
07:17.30ZealotOnAStickSkinner has working viewport code.
07:17.46Xuerian~skinner
07:17.47purlskinner is the mod which completely ruined Haste's perfectly good and efficient OSkin.
07:18.23XuerianAnyway, I said nn. Must zz.d
07:18.27ZealotOnAStickWell, we've yet to see the new oSkin yet . . .
07:18.53zoktarah
07:18.57zoktareven have skinner installed
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07:24.19CIA-1703damjau * r21392 10Bartender3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: update kokR locals
07:25.23ElkanoOhayô gozaimasu! Tadaima!
07:25.39GamefaqO.o
07:26.23zoktarif i got it right u need some protected line with functions using wow functions right if they are protected
07:26.25zoktaror secure
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07:40.26zoktaris there a volume for outside loaded audio ?
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07:40.44axxobe hip use tinytip
07:40.48Wobin=(
07:41.04Wobinxchat is hopeless past the buffer with notifications
07:41.45doktoreashi to all
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07:44.17haarmhmm, someone wanted a viewport? :P check Aperture
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07:44.35zoktarhaarm was a shake screen addon i was messing with
07:45.01haarmsame principle i guess
07:46.19haarmjust make a function that takes an x and a y param, and offsets all the worldframe points by those amounts, stick it in an onupdate, and call it with 0, 0 when you're done shaking
07:47.21[Ammo]morning
07:47.46haarmgood moaning
07:48.09CIA-1703kemayo * r21394 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: :GetText() can return nil.
07:48.30Kemayo_Now, to see if I can live without a userlist.
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07:49.38CIA-1703antiarc * r21395 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua Sanity.xml): Sanity2: Added bags->bags and bags-> bank compression. Will add a Dewdrop menu that allows you to pick your compression direction soon.
07:50.52ckknightgah, I want to know how Atlas makes its maps in its Alpha version
07:51.07Kemayo_What's it doing?
07:51.18ckknightcause stealing their data and tweaking it to be about half the size, I got it to work in Cartographer
07:51.30KemayoOoo.
07:51.59ckknightbasically, instead of images, it has tables listing blizzard minimap textures
07:52.03haarmckknight, did you ever think about accessing the actual blizz textures, now there's an md5lib you can generate all the filenames no problem
07:52.04ckknightI had the same idea
07:52.05haarmhaha
07:52.06haarm;)
07:52.13CIA-1703antiarc * r21396 10Sanity2/SanityItemTemplate.xml: Sanity2: Small fix to address stack splitting behavior. ~= isn't the same as ==, kids!
07:52.22ckknightbasically, {"fde51cbfd79de810805ce500b6aa571a", 001, 00, 00, 256, 128, -50.0414, 44.3728}
07:52.36ckknightthat's part of Maraudon
07:53.00haarmwell you can get all the texture names from the trs file in the mpq
07:53.04haarmbrb toast popped
07:53.21ckknighttrs?
07:54.11ckknightfound it
07:54.56ckknightthis is great, but it doesn't list x/y position
07:55.50CIA-1703fenlis * r21397 10Prat/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Prat: Updated locales koKR
07:55.59haarmckknight, possibly in the dbc files
07:56.07Icerothhttp://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Telal2/UIFinished.jpg <- what's that battle field map in bottom right?
07:56.08ckknightknow a path?
07:56.14haarmi say possibly, i mean probably
07:56.38ckknightyes, haarm
07:56.43haarmDBFilesClient
07:56.49haarmanything in that directory
07:58.26NargiddleyIceroth, Capping i think
07:59.27IcerothO.o
07:59.32Icerothcan't find any addon named that
07:59.50Icerothdoh
07:59.50Icerothnvm me
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08:00.17[Ammo]ckknight: yatlas also does something with the minimap textures
08:00.22ckknightI know
08:00.26[Ammo]ok
08:00.36ckknightI have it working in Cartographer
08:00.48ckknightI just don't know how the data was retrieved in the first place
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08:01.23[Ammo]my guess: walking over the minimap and checking which texture is set
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08:01.32a-stray-cathey ammo, is there a way to get bars not to collapse on eachother?
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08:01.51[Ammo]a-stray-cat: all depends on the coder
08:01.52a-stray-catrather, not sort and not collapse, just have it fill in blank spots with new bars?
08:02.00a-stray-catoh?
08:02.03[Ammo]you'd have to code specifically for that
08:02.07[Ammo]and not use a candybar group
08:02.14[Ammo]but just name your bars and anchor them at the correct spot
08:02.22[Ammo]seperately
08:02.28a-stray-catah
08:02.29[Ammo]don't fireandforget em, but reuse em
08:05.03a-stray-cater, how do i directly access a candybar from my mod to anchor it?
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08:07.36SoLoRKemayo [2006/12/19 09:04:05-537-x4]: FuBar_QuestsFu-2.0.21394\QuestsFu.lua:276: attempt to call method 'GetText' (a nil value)(tail call): ?:<in C code>: in function `QuestLog_Update'Interface\FrameXML\QuestLogFrame.lua:58: in function `QuestLog_OnEvent':<string>:"QuestLogFrame:OnEvent":2: in function <[string "QuestLogFrame:OnEvent"]:1>  ---
08:09.11CIA-1703kemayo * r21398 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: 276: attempt to call method 'GetText' (a nil value)
08:09.42[Ammo]hehe
08:09.56[Ammo]a-stray-cat: read the API
08:10.37[Ammo]a-stray-cat: you register a bar with name 'foo' then you do: myblah:SetCandyBarPoint("foo", "CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 10, 10)
08:10.41[Ammo]for instance
08:10.42CIA-1703fenlis * r21399 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Fixed validate - forward, backward.
08:10.45[Ammo]eh voila
08:11.08a-stray-catoh blah
08:11.13a-stray-cati completely missed that one
08:11.40[Ammo]if you don't start it with fireandforget
08:11.46[Ammo]it'll be there and you can restart it etc
08:11.51a-stray-catnice
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08:17.38[Ammo]SoLoR: I checked out those Karazhan logs briefly, haven't had time to do anything with them, but I tossed them to Vhaarr as well
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08:18.09ZealotOnAStickAmmo, any particular BC transcripts you're looking for?
08:18.10SoLoRok dunno if they are really usefull to find some patterens
08:18.16shaq`emochoo choo
08:18.26ZealotOnAStickI can probably get a few folks in OMG Zone Out to run it.
08:18.44[Ammo]ZealotOnAStick: well, get lots of Karazhan or other 25 man logs
08:18.49SoLoRmoroe maybe for gouge/vanish rest is so so
08:18.54[Ammo]ZealotOnAStick: get /combatlog logs and Transcripts
08:19.05ZealotOnAStickwant both?
08:19.12[Ammo]ZealotOnAStick: both is best
08:19.23[Ammo]some events might be missing from transcriptor
08:19.32ZealotOnAStickok, will talk with some of them this week and see what I can manage.
08:19.35[Ammo]dunno if it has been updated to be fully 2.0 compliant eventwise
08:19.36frixionhaving real problems getting groups on Bloodmyst, did try and get some transcripts
08:19.44ZealotOnAStickif I wasn't miserably behind in levels on my Lock on beta I'd do it myself.
08:19.48[Ammo]hehe
08:19.52[Ammo]I'm not even level 62
08:19.59SoLoRfrixion same on tempest keep
08:20.04ZealotOnAStickI was in closed alpha.
08:20.10SoLoRwe bearly got kharazan pug up...
08:20.11ZealotOnAStickand my lock is still shy of 63
08:20.11[Ammo]and most likely won't get higher either
08:20.24[Ammo]SoLoR: vhaarr is on tempest keep as well
08:20.30[Ammo]he has a 70 priest
08:20.38SoLoRoh -.-
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08:20.52SoLoRname? maybe i played some :)
08:21.00[Ammo]see privmsgs
08:21.28frixionyea I got a 70 priest on Bloodmyst.. and I'm holy spec at the moment, and I still can't get a group :p
08:21.34ZealotOnAStickI spent a lot of time playing with my Draenei and BE . . . and supporting Naxx consumables on live for my Warlock, and consulting . . . leads to weird schedules and little effective free time for beta play
08:22.25evlWhich spells/talents reset cooldowns?
08:22.32evlPremeditation, Coldsnap?
08:22.43ZealotOnAStickPreparation
08:22.48SoLoRfrixion well our guild got 40 keyes everyone was like ZOMG BETA BETA blabla
08:22.56SoLoRnow we have like 6-7 lvl70...
08:23.25frixionthey need to open transfers so bloodmyst 70s can migrate to tempest keep and we'll actually get some groups going
08:23.28ZealotOnAStickDespite being the #1 ranked horde guild on a launch-day US server, my guild didn't get a guild beta invite (though the top alliance one did)
08:23.41ZealotOnAStickBut I got 4 keys, so it was ok.
08:24.51SoLoRZealotOnAStick you ar the one that got baned? :D
08:25.10ZealotOnAStickNo. . .
08:25.20ZealotOnAStickWhat story is this you're referring to?
08:25.30DrZootTextures for wow have to be sized in multiples of 8 right?
08:25.50ckknight2^x
08:25.53SoLoRsome US horde guild (cant remember name atm) got baned for skiping 3/4 of aq40 ;)
08:26.00ZealotOnAStickOh.  Overrated.
08:26.02SoLoRye
08:26.02SoLoR!
08:26.04ZealotOnAStickNo, not us.  Different server.
08:26.10SoLoRok
08:26.11ZealotOnAStickI'm in Warfare on Blackhand US
08:26.12DrZootckknight: Cheers
08:26.22frixionhow long does it take for something to time out on this server
08:26.50ZealotOnAStickWhile we're not stupid enough to do something like that which could get you banned . . .
08:26.55frixionD:
08:27.01ZealotOnAStickI can understand why they did it, the post-emps trash in AQ40 is a major pain.
08:27.08SoLoRye :s
08:27.20SoLoRaltho they shouldnt risk of destorying name like that :)
08:27.29SoLoRotherwise more power to them!
08:27.33SoLoRthat they had guts :)
08:27.46ckknightDrZoot, yea, minimum 8, maximum 512, always 2^x where x is a subset of ZZ
08:27.47evlI was thinking of trying to fix oCD so it works with Preparation, Coldsnap, Rentaki's Charm of Beasts etc.
08:28.01ZealotOnAStickDid you see the video up of some time after they got banned for that, the remnants of the guild swarmed Yojamba Isle to grief some other guild's loatheb buffs?
08:28.48syerenNerf Alliance Flight Paths :(
08:29.08SoLoRZealotOnAStick ye
08:29.12SoLoRkinda funny :)
08:29.16SoLoRwell
08:29.23ZealotOnAStickYeah, I can see both ways.
08:29.25SoLoRthat wasnt nice tho but vid is funny :D
08:29.40ZealotOnAStickIt was funny, but if it had happened to me, I'd be a tad murderous.
08:29.47SoLoRye ;(
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08:31.26evlWhat item fires everytime you use an ability that generates a cooldown?
08:31.33evls/item/event
08:33.16ZealotOnAStickHrm.  Torchwood Ep 10.  Nice, but I want Series 3 to hurry up.
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08:39.29a-stray-catpssst, anyone know the default candybar width?
08:40.39ckknighta-stray-cat, look at the top of CandyBar.
08:40.45ckknightlocal defaults =
08:40.50a-stray-catwhy thank you <3
08:41.41evlDoes any event fire when a spells cooldown changes?
08:41.56evlas in, does SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN fire when say a spell gets it's cooldown reset?
08:42.40a-stray-cati believe so.
08:42.47HealthNice name
08:43.01WobinHe just wanders in and out of the channel =(
08:49.53CIA-1703nevcairiel * r21400 10Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: .toc changes
08:51.50DrZootDoes anyone know where I might be able to find a new version of the Development Tools mod
08:52.47ZealotOnAStickI think Iriel's DevTools was updated within the last couple of days, should be on WoWInterface somewhere.
08:53.29DrZootOk, Ill have a look there, thankyou
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08:56.48ckknightDrZoot, jw, what
08:56.57ckknightdo you use it for?
09:01.22DrZootUm, nothing in particular, Ive just found it a nice tool to have around, The framestack part is nice occasionaly and also the /dump command that it provides.
09:01.51nuOHEPaceconsole has /dump
09:02.20DrZootReally? I didnt know that.
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09:03.16DrZootWhat about the framestack tool? is there an Ace alternative for that?
09:03.31krkadevtools > all
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09:08.16DrZootActually on second thought, the Framestack portion of Devtools is very nice, Its probably what I use it for the most.
09:08.19kebinusanheh, looks like you made bash ckknight http://www.bash.org/?715285
09:08.26kebinusannice one too really made me laugh
09:09.30ckknighthehe
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09:14.14CIA-1703saroz * r21401 10sRaidFrames/localization.frFR.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix frFR range check
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09:18.52CIA-1703ammo * r21402 10Henge/Modules/StoneHenge/StoneHenge.lua: Henge: StoneHenge updated with working shardcounter.
09:20.13Silviu-ckk
09:20.14Silviu-2006/12/19 10:38:43-37-x7]: Cartographer-r29514\Modules\Notes.lua:2783: Trying to set a note with an unknown zone: "Nagrand Arena"
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09:24.38Silviu-Thx
09:27.02SkorcherXckknight: i got it installed
09:27.07ckknightyay
09:27.12SkorcherXjesus christ it sucked
09:27.24SkorcherXany how.. character rename is broken and it doesnt liek any of my 60['s names
09:27.59SkorcherXso i made a dranaie and a bloodelf to tide me over.. waiting for maintenence to get done to see if the renaming bug is fixed.
09:33.18kebinusanBlizzard should just sell TBC keys online and torrent downloads of the client
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09:34.01andremarI think they do it to throttle how many access outlands at once
09:34.05tlundkebinusan: you already downloaded the client (via torrent), it was patch 2.0.1
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09:34.23andremarnah, it's still missing everything related to outlands I think
09:34.29|Pixel|10:33 < kebinusan> Blizzard should just sell TBC keys online and torrent downloads of the client
09:34.29tlundandremar: no, its in.
09:34.35|Pixel|that's basically what's gonna happen
09:34.38kebinusanIm in the beta though, so I did already download it though
09:34.58naeneeI prefer the tangible version of WoW though :)
09:35.39Kirkburn|afkOoh, I didn't know the pet dismissing tainting issue is fixed for the next patch ... woo :D
09:35.46sergiodid they announce a non-retail version of TBC or something
09:36.15Kirkburn|afk|Pixel|, you've intrigued us!
09:36.17Kirkburn|afkDon't leave us hanging :(
09:36.34tlundsergio: no, not yet.
09:36.36kebinusanyeah I havent seen any announcement of a non retail release of TBC
09:36.38naeneeIndeed. We like clarity and black-on-white stuff :)
09:36.50|Pixel|haven't you notice that, since a week now, you can buy the WoW key online ?
09:36.58Kirkburn|afkUm, no
09:37.03kebinusanumm no
09:37.11|Pixel|so, there :)
09:37.12naeneePlease give a link to where you can buy it online.
09:37.43sergioyou've been able to buy wow online from gamespy's online store direct2drive for weeks
09:37.50|Pixel|easy: signup.wow-europe.com/promotion.html  <--  register for a free trial first, then in the account administration, you can upgrade it to a normal key for 20 euros
09:38.06|Pixel|s/key/account/
09:38.50Kirkburn|afkOoh, I did not know that
09:39.02|Pixel|this is functionnal since one week :)
09:39.24kebinusantrial accounts were added sometime after retail release of wow, like 1.6  ish I think
09:39.36kebinusanthe downloadable ones anyway
09:40.23ZealotOnAStickDownloadable ones maybe . . . but trial codes were in the release of the game.
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09:40.41Kirkburn|afkThe ability to upgrade them is new, is the point
09:40.47naeneeStill, the feature of getting the full game without registering for a trial and with that mentioned separately would be better.
09:41.11Kirkburn|afkThis may be a precursor to that appearing
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09:41.31naeneeMaybe.
09:42.07Kaeltenhi guys
09:42.09|Pixel|indeed
09:42.12Kirkburn|afkIn any case, I've ordered the CE, so I don't want a dl in the first place :P
09:42.24naeneeSame here :)
09:42.27Kirkburn|afkCiao Kaelten
09:42.28naeneeHi Kaelten.
09:42.41tlund[10:39] #wowace <kebinusan> trial accounts were added sometime after retail release of wow, like 1.6  ish I think
09:42.50tlundtrial accounts wher included from day one in europe
09:43.05tlundif you got the collectors edition, you got a trial acccount to give to a friend
09:43.11tlundthis was at patch 1.2
09:43.23Kaeltenlol
09:43.31kebinusanah mkay
09:44.01Kirkburn|afkThey just weren't freely available
09:44.06naeneeI only wondered that, but not aloud Kirkburn. But since you're already afk..
09:44.11Kirkburn|afkheh
09:44.27Kirkburn|afkCiao means both hello and goodbye
09:44.39uszKirkburn|afk, actually italians in my guild say ciao as a hi aswell
09:44.46Kirkburn|afk(which sounds like it would make for a very short conversation)
09:45.03naenee:)
09:45.15Kirkburn|afkYay, edumacashun wurkz!
09:45.19axxociao & ciao
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09:48.30Kaeltenawstats is aggrivating me
09:49.15ZealotOnAStickI was never overly fond of awstats.
09:50.04KaeltenI like it but its started to crash anytime I parse a log
09:50.04ZealotOnAStickI used to use some "commerical" thing that was a bundled perk with a previous web host.  But that was work and I got lazy.
09:50.04Kaeltenso I'm stuck after a certain date
09:50.05Kaeltenheh
09:50.12KaeltenI need to find a good parser that won't crash
09:51.08DrZootWhat sort of logs?
09:51.54Kaeltenlighttpd
09:52.01KaeltenI also have some squid logs I want to parse
09:52.31Kaeltenwould be nice if Ic ould find one to do them both
09:52.36ZealotOnAStickWell, I know awstats is just the most popular or whatever.  There's competition right?  Or do the other OSS ones suck?
09:53.31KaeltenI honestly don't know as I can't remember the name and a google on it is not turning up a good result
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09:54.55CodayusReally depends how detailed an analysis you want.  There's lots of OSS ones which will tell how many people visited yesterday.  If you want more complex analysis...awstats is about as good as it gets, and it's pretty weak.
09:55.00FISKER_Q\~seen grennon
09:55.09purlgrennon <n=jeramy@user-0cdv8vd.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 59d 9h 53m 5s ago, saying: 'and i used it to do some of the work serious buff timers was doing with formatting'.
09:55.31FISKER_Q\:O
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09:56.01DrZootI used to use sarg a little bit, I know it does squid logs and I *think* it might do apache logs.
09:57.49ZealotOnAStickAnalog, Webalizer . . .
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09:58.21ZealotOnAStickWebTrends was the commercial one I used to use.
09:58.46FISKER_Q\anyone know if Grennon goes under another nickname?
09:58.51a-stray-catif i do self.defaults  = self.db.char.defaults self.defaults references self.db.char.defaults right?
09:58.57ZealotOnAStickI'm sure it'd be easily aquirable if your ethics permit such
09:59.10a-stray-catwhat're ethics?
10:02.46Silviu-Xuerian every time i start my game Xlootgrp shows the anchor and i must disable it, why ? :P
10:03.24DrZootDamnit, My textures look really nice in Photoshop but as soon as I get them in WoW they turn to crapola
10:03.37HealthLies
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10:09.56Kirkburn|afkHmm, I'm going to commit ClearFont2 to trunk now
10:10.23a-stray-catdoes it work :P
10:10.28Kirkburn|afkYes :)
10:10.33a-stray-catwoo!
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10:12.22CIA-1703kirkburn * r21404 10ClearFont2_Design/ (. ClearFont2_Design.toc Core.lua libs/):
10:12.22CIA-17ClearFont2_Design:
10:12.22CIA-17- Initial commit. Required by ClearFont2!
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10:13.25CIA-1703kirkburn * r21405 10ClearFont2/ (56 files in 14 dirs):
10:13.25CIA-17ClearFont2:
10:13.26CIA-17- Initial commit to trunk. Includes a couple of fonts, requires the ClearFont2_Design addon too!
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10:13.51a-stray-cat:O
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10:15.19KaeltenKirkburn|afk: actually aceing it or just a major update?
10:16.05Kirkburn|afkYes, it's Aced
10:16.15Kirkburn|afkI'm about to set externals :P
10:16.36Kaeltenhehe cool
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10:23.08CIA-1703kirkburn * r21406 10ClearFont2_Design/libs/: ClearFont2_Design: added externals
10:23.19FISKER_Q\haha
10:23.25FISKER_Q\almost honored with silvermoon city now
10:23.51CIA-1703phyber * r21407 10FuBar_NetStatsFu/NetStatsFu.lua:
10:23.51CIA-17FuBar_NetStatsFu:
10:23.51CIA-17- We don't need to grab a local copy of dewdrop here.
10:24.26CIA-1703kirkburn * r21408 10ClearFont2/libs/: ClearFont2: set externals
10:29.18CIA-1703phyber * r21409 10ClearFont2/libs/:
10:29.18CIA-17ClearFont2:
10:29.18CIA-17- Fix FuBarPlugin-2.0 external path.
10:30.25Kaeltenlol
10:30.36Kirkburn|afkOooh, too quick for me!
10:30.42Kirkburn|afkI had just noticed that
10:30.45phyber;)
10:31.21Kirkburn|afkI plead innocence :P
10:31.59Kaeltenhey guys there is 1 addons who is pulling externals from svn7.wowace.com
10:32.00Wobin<3 Kirkburn
10:32.03Kaeltenits ~ the n's
10:32.07Kaeltenanyone have an idea which one?
10:32.09WobinYou save my eyes
10:32.17haarmnevcairiel: ping
10:32.26Icerothoffs! someone shoot ie7 - i can't find a way to allow activeX content from local computer without those fucking annoying "this might be not safe" piece of shit popups </rant>
10:32.40Wobin~shoot ie7
10:32.42purlACTION shoots ie7 in the head with a quantum singularity weapon!
10:32.46Wobinha!
10:32.50Iceroth:p
10:32.51Kirkburn|afkOooh, and ClearFont2 is already on /files :)
10:32.52KaeltenIceroth: granted
10:33.21Icerothwhy can't there be an option "yes, i do have 5 fingers and the thumb isn't in my ass"
10:33.23WobinKaelten: I don't understand what you're saying
10:33.34Wobinirt the addon
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10:33.46KaeltenWobin: someone setup a addon with an external coming directly from a mirror
10:33.54Wobinoh
10:34.09Wobinwell if I had the repository checked out, I'd grep for the string....
10:34.13Wobinbut I don't =\
10:35.05Kaeltenaha, its nRaidTracker
10:36.40Wobinhas anyone used that btw?
10:37.25Kaeltenno clue
10:38.03ZealotOnAStickOooh. Live Action Terry Pratchett stories!
10:38.38phyberunless there's a guy in a Luggage suit, it's uninteresting. ;)
10:39.02WobinI do want to see that tv show of Hogfather
10:39.07ZealotOnAStickHogfather.  Seems to be a BBC TV movie.
10:39.11ZealotOnAStick'sgot David Warner.
10:39.16BarDwellrtivo'd it
10:39.20CIA-1703wobin * r21410 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Fixed a missing frame reference bug
10:39.20ZealotOnAStickPretty good production values so far.
10:39.27BarDwellrwas on sky1 sunday/monday night
10:39.34BarDwellrdont think it was bbc ?
10:39.44ZealotOnAStickPerhaps not.
10:39.48WobinSky?
10:39.48ZealotOnAStickNot very far into it yet.
10:40.07ZealotOnAStickDon't get that here, so I have to resort to the next best thing.
10:40.08BarDwellrhaven't watched it yet.. will drag it outta tivo later & convert to dvd
10:40.34BarDwellrheh.. u too far round the world to get 28e ?
10:41.20Wobinyay
10:41.20Wobinhttp://www.torrentz.com/search?x=0&y=0&q=hogfather
10:42.25BarDwellrlol =)
10:42.28ZealotOnAStickyeah.  Next best thing, as I said.
10:42.52ZealotOnAStickand yes, I'm in Indiana.  British Satellite here isn't so easy to come by.
10:43.03BarDwellrsee it all works out.. the uk leeches hidef lost & stargate from the us, and the us leeches umm.. terry pratchet from us ;-)
10:43.35ZealotOnAStickI usually order the new pratchett books from amazon.co.uk months before they're in print here.
10:44.16BarDwellryeah.. dont think indiana stands much chance of getting 28e.. I can see about 36e to 30w here
10:44.39BarDwellrbut I need a bigger dish, 30w is a bit weak
10:46.32haarmwobin, dunno what one that is, but there's a HDTV one on eztv
10:47.26Kirkburn|afkZealotOnAStick, indeed not a BBC movie. And dammit, I missed it!
10:47.27haarmoh, thats a list of all
10:47.29haarm:D
10:50.30Kirkburn|afkWow, popular torrent
10:50.41Kirkburn|afk(s)
10:51.10ZealotOnAStickApparently there's something for Soul Music too.
10:51.11haarmapparently the eztv one is the best, high definition + ads removed etc
10:51.35Kirkburn|afkZealotOnAStick, they made cartoons for some of the books
10:51.36BarDwellrheh.. my tivo version isnt hidef .. only normal 720x576
10:51.52BarDwellrtivo only ever released series 1 in uk.. [gah!]
10:52.04ZealotOnAStickone I have is HDTV-XVid-SFM from eztv
10:52.27haarmyea mine is still incoming
10:52.40haarm2000 seeds and 70kb/s download :/
10:52.44KaeltenI got a 14 day trial of Urchin5, heh.  to bad the full one costs like 800 bucks
10:54.17Kirkburn|afkUrchin = Google Analytics?
10:55.37CIA-1703kaelten * r21411 10nRaidTracker/:
10:55.37CIA-17nRaidTracker:
10:55.37CIA-17- Fixing external to point to svn.wowace.com
10:55.42haarmits some web traffic analyser i thought?
10:57.38KaeltenKirkburn|afk: ya kinda  google analytics is based on one of urchin's old services
10:57.50Kaeltenya urchin5 is a local copy that actually parses logs
10:58.08Kaeltengoogle's analytics is a web service that collects data via a javascript file
10:58.44Kaeltenthe problem with g's analytics is it only catches traffic for pages that have that js file embeded
10:58.50Kaeltenwhich is only about  1/3 or so of our traffic
11:00.17haarmand of course, only browsers that support javascript
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11:00.35Kaeltenyep not to mention pages that I can't embed stuff in
11:00.41Kaeltenor that aren't html pages at all
11:00.48Kaeltenlike the files, and svn access ect
11:01.00haarmwhat's limited in the trial? purely the amount of time you can use it for?
11:01.07Kaeltenyep
11:01.29Kaeltenit also has some minor limitations about only being able to handle single servers, so I can't input multiple log sources
11:01.48Kaeltenbut the stats that its spost to generate are spost to be full featured
11:01.50haarmcan't imagine it hasn't got a crack floating about
11:02.39KaeltenI think it validates via their webserver so ...
11:02.41Kaeltenit might not
11:03.01ZealotOnAStickOk, a bit disappointed with the voice of Death.
11:04.39haarmstop spoiling it!
11:04.44haarmlalalalalala
11:08.39WobinuTorrent...
11:08.47Wobinway way waaay better than azureus
11:08.56Wobinsmaller, lighter, less memoryhogwidth
11:08.59Kirkburn|afkWhateva :P
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11:09.05Wobin=)
11:09.21CIA-1703jayhawk * r21412 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (8 files):
11:09.21CIA-17FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: initial commit
11:09.21CIA-17- Shows all skills in a tool tip and allows you to quickly select/reselect one of them. Also keeps track of cooldowns and skills for other toons..
11:09.26Wobintbh, I don't think I could ever be happy with any TV Death voice
11:09.56ZealotOnAStickas a recent uTorrent convert myself, I'm pleased with it.
11:10.00WobinIt'd have to be so deep, so all encompassing and so... nonvocal, it's impossible to portray on tv media =)
11:10.22ZealotOnAStickWell, they had an ok voice for death in one of the PC games, and a different but ok one in a couple of the audiobook versions.
11:10.32Wobinsee?
11:10.37WobinIt's never a 'good' voice =)
11:10.49ZealotOnAStickBut I think this one is too subdued.
11:11.02WobinDeath speaks softly with all caps =P
11:12.07yacoobLIKE THAT, YOU MEAN?
11:12.22Wobin^^
11:12.37waffleboo to extended maintenance
11:12.45yacoobTHIS IS NOT A TOPIC FOR ENJOYMENT, YOU KNOW, MORTAL.
11:13.30wafflealso boo to snowball hotfix.
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11:13.49haarmwhat are they doing to snowballs ?
11:13.50Wobinnow how do we deal with AFK AVers?
11:13.54Kirkburn|afk"I meant," said Iplsore bitterly, "what is there in this world that makes living worthwhile?" Death thought about it. "CATS," he said eventually, "CATS ARE NICE."
11:13.57wafflewobin, did you write mrplow?  that addon rules.
11:14.11WobinThey stopped the hardened snowballs from being aimable at your faction
11:14.16Wobinwaffle: yeh =) Thankee =)
11:14.17haarmoh :(
11:14.19waffle:D
11:14.22haarmwell it did piss me off
11:14.29KaeltenWobin: one question did you ever update it to use the specialized bags properly?
11:14.31haarmalways some tosspot throwing them at me when i'm mounting up
11:14.33markvi'm kind of annoyed with that :(
11:14.36WobinTrue
11:14.39markvi liked snowballing people off the bridge
11:14.43Kirkburn|afkMaybe they should reduce the afk time in BGs?
11:14.44markvor in to a pack of alliance
11:14.48markvit was like here you charge them instead of me
11:14.49wafflei mean, it really makes a big difference, i love the organization.  i've had a weird experience trying to sell it to friends/guildies though.
11:14.52WobinBut I was so looking forward to booting some AFK AVers
11:15.06markvwobin: i used to follow the guys booting the afkers and then boot the guys doing the booting
11:15.07wafflethey always resist, saying "But I LOVE my unorganized mess!" wtf?
11:15.11haarmknocking them back through the portal?
11:15.14Wobinby snowballing them out of the instance..
11:15.19haarm:D
11:16.01Wobinhey Kaelten, is the itemlinking db converted across yet?
11:16.05Wobinfor KCI
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11:17.01Nemesis\Vagashey all
11:17.13Nemesis\Vagashave a few questions
11:17.15WobinKaelten: I -think- it has issues with two or more profession bags
11:17.17KaeltenWobin: which one?
11:17.28WobinBut I never had enough money to buy more than one profession bag =P
11:17.40Wobintwo or more as in number, not necessarily type.
11:17.44Nemesis\Vagassomeone know if there is a similar addon to "GroupFu" as its not updated yet ?
11:18.04KaeltenWobin: you mean the database for chatlink?
11:18.08Wobinwaffle: lol =)
11:18.11WobinKaelten: yeah
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11:18.22Kaeltenit pulls the data from GetItemInfo
11:18.28Silviu-Nemesis\Vagas it is in Rabbit`s branch
11:18.35Soullessargh, servers down
11:18.42Silviu-http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FuBar_GroupFu/Rabbit/
11:18.57WobinKaelten: but surely you need the itemdb to type in $[Heavy runeclo<tab>?
11:19.06Nemesis\VagasSilviu-: ah thx :)
11:19.38WobinKaelten: I actually have absolutely no idea what state KCI2 is in atm =\
11:20.04KaeltenSoulless: what servers?
11:20.08KaeltenWobin: nope
11:20.13Nemesis\Vagasok next thing hehe :) someone knows a similar addon like FollowTheLeader ? i thought it was a very simple and useful addon, but also didnt get an update :(
11:20.23KaeltenWobin: it simply does a bunch of GetItemInfo calls
11:20.29SoullessKaelten: all us ones >_>
11:20.39KaeltenSoulless: oh it is tuesday isn't it
11:20.41Soullessits tuesday maintence
11:20.42Kaeltenlol
11:21.11Soullessyou play deEU?
11:21.24Kaeltennope
11:21.25Kaeltenus
11:21.37Soullessoh im thinking so sarien
11:21.42Soullessyar
11:21.51Soullessits so annoying when you editing something and servers go down
11:21.53Soulless<PROTECTED>
11:22.07Kaeltenlol
11:22.27KaeltenI've been tempted to buy a uk version so I can keep deving while the servers are down, but its no biggy
11:22.39Wobinoh wow
11:22.49WobinI never realised you could GII with a itemname
11:23.00waffleGII?
11:23.20WobinGetItemInfo
11:23.41WobinHow do you get more than one return though?
11:23.44Kirkburn|afkUK WoW ftw, Kaelten :P
11:23.44KaeltenWobin: new in the patch I think
11:23.51KaeltenKirkburn|afk: :P
11:23.52Soullessis there a patch today?
11:23.58KaeltenSoulless: not to my knowledge
11:24.16Soullesshmmmm
11:24.23Soulless6:30 am......good time for a beer
11:24.29KaeltenWobin: I actually was doing for i=1, 40000 do GetItemInfo(i) end or some such similar
11:24.36Wobin... oh =)
11:24.40KaeltenSoulless: I'm thinking about left over pizza
11:24.47KaeltenWobin: ya GetItemInfo is just stupid fast
11:24.49Soullessholy crap, 40k iterations?
11:25.02KaeltenSoulless: ya takes < 1 sec most times
11:25.03WobinThen stringmatching? =)
11:25.08Soullesssounds like lag up the ass
11:25.10Soullessreally?
11:25.11KaeltenWobin: yep
11:25.14Soullessthats crazy
11:25.15Wobinrofl
11:25.19KaeltenSoulless: ya STUPID fast
11:25.38KaeltenWobin: I'm probably going to short circuit in the next version so that if there is a direct match it'll do that
11:25.47Nemesis\Vagashey ... someone is good in AG_UnitFrames ?
11:25.51WobinThat's problematic though
11:25.54KaeltenWobin: new Linkview is going to use it too :P
11:26.03FISKER_Q\honored with silvermoon yaaaaay
11:26.07WobinI had an instance when I -couldn't- link a specific item
11:26.13Kaelten?
11:26.17Wobincause the name was longer than another item with the same starting bit
11:26.30WobinAlthough I think I had the autocomplete on.
11:26.37Kaeltenhrm
11:26.38WobinI should have turned on safe bracketing to test
11:26.50Kaeltenwell I'm going to use AceTab in the new KCI
11:27.02Kaeltenso its going to be [Health P<tab>
11:27.19Soullessok, who knows how to filter this icon http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Temp.jpg in enemy castbars
11:27.22Kaeltenproblem is I need to hack some more functionality into AceTab to get it right
11:27.55Soullesslike when i open things or things that shouldnt have icons, my enemycast bar shows that
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11:28.09Wobin??
11:28.12Nemesis\Vagasi have a Prob with aG_UnitFrames ... it dont shows the PEt Windoes :-(( ... and it dobt prioritize buffs from debuffs, but i read that it still in the to do list... but biggest prob is it dont show petwindow ;/
11:28.26Necrathexit shows my pet
11:28.47Nemesis\Vagasso i have no pet
11:28.53Nemesis\Vagasit dont show party pets
11:29.06Nemesis\Vagasand i dunno why
11:29.32Soullessanybody here well versed with UnitCastingInfo?
11:29.51KaeltenWobin: ???
11:30.23WobinKaelten: !
11:30.48KaeltenWobin: !!?!?!!!
11:30.56WobinKaelten: ....
11:31.05KaeltenWobin: ..!
11:31.06Soullessdrugsrbad mmkay
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11:34.14Nemesis\Vagashm thats crazy...
11:34.21Nemesis\Vagasi just dont see any petwindow of party members
11:35.20KaeltenWobin: #@$&!
11:35.22Kaelten:P
11:35.42WobinKaelten: ><
11:36.46WobinInteresting
11:36.52WobinThey don't sync the authentication servers
11:37.02WobinWhen live is down, I have to use my old password to log into beta
11:37.09Kaeltenlol
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11:39.56Soullessoh shit
11:40.03Soullessso beta servers don't go down the same time?
11:40.44Wobinnope =)
11:40.58Soullesswell i can find friends with beta accounts
11:41.06Soullessfinding friends with eu accounts it another story
11:41.09SoLoRbtw US geting 2.0.2 today?
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11:41.20Soullessdon't think so, lemmie check
11:41.22Wobingod I hope so
11:41.29WobinIt -is- extended maint
11:41.50anenigmahaha! success!  my xbox controller works with WoW
11:41.59SoLoRwell if they are working on patch for like last 2 weeks already i think its about time :)
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11:44.53Soullesshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=529BB88D791CA42DBD661776A7F88697?topicId=54983701&sid=1
11:45.13Soullesslol, BAN A MOD THAT LETS PEOPLE QUEUE AT THE SAME TIME, NURF PREMADES
11:46.06WobinQQ
11:46.36naeneeI agree though.
11:46.46Soulless.....
11:47.03Soullessits stupid
11:47.31naeneeIf AV was meant for premade groups, it would have 'join by group'. AV is much more fun without knowing you'll lose or win beforehand to me.
11:47.54anenigmafunny thing is, you can join as group if you know the API.  but the queue doesn't recognise it, and splits you up anyway
11:48.08anenigmai tested it myself last week
11:48.12naeneeWhich, effectively, doesn't allow you to join as group :P
11:48.22Soullessmeh, w/e
11:48.39naeneeOh well. To each their own :) I just disagree with that addon.
11:49.46Soullesstheres a snowball thread >_>
11:49.46anenigmado you disagree with guildies coordinating with each other over vent, as to when to press 'queue'?
11:50.01naeneeI disagree with people trying to do things which were clearly intended not to be done.
11:50.46Kirkburn|afk(especially it being done *for* them)
11:51.17Wobinpremades are the only way I ever play AB anymore
11:51.43naeneeWell, that's your choice and you have that choice thanks to the ability to join as group :)
11:52.15Soulless<PROTECTED>
11:52.15Soulless--"Hardpacked Snowballs" -- specific to Alterac Valley -- can only be used against enemy targets. Again, the reason for this was due to negative player issues caused between teammates in Alterac Valley.
11:52.18Soullessdie blizzard
11:52.36CIA-1703jayhawk * r21413 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (6 files):
11:52.37CIA-17FuBar_PetInfoFu: initial commit
11:52.37CIA-17- Overview of pet attributes and combat values. Will optionally track your pet history. Remake of Corgi's PetInfo.
11:52.49naeneeAw, I enjoyed hitting my girlfriend with snowballs as she was summoning her mount or one of her minions :
11:53.23Soullessim gonna miss snowballing afkers out of av
11:53.28Soullessman that was good justice
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11:54.26Silviu-Nemesis\Vagas partypets don`t work yet
11:54.31WobinIt's true
11:54.51Soullessnothing about a patch on general forums
11:54.57Soullessjust extended maintence
11:55.02naeneeSoulless: Is that a blue message for a hotfix? Or just a suggestion
11:55.10naeneeThe snowball-thing
11:55.13Soullessblue for hotfix, its alread done
11:55.16naeneerats.
11:55.25Soullesshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=57519793&sid=1
11:55.39Soullessit was fixed between 16 and 12 hours ago
11:55.46Soullesssince i was a pretty avid snowballer
11:56.28naeneeSame here.
11:56.45naeneeNow there's not much fun to it
11:57.00andremarwell, now we just need to comunicate with horde, let one of them into our tunnel to knock out AFK'ers
11:57.06Soullessi agree get snowballedd of the bridge was just lam,e but yeah
11:57.08andremarand one alliance go down and do the same for them
11:57.10Soullessafkers piss me off
11:57.22andremarthey piss of everyone
11:57.24andremaras much as bots
11:57.28phyberI love it when people that cry at premades.  a) get some friends.  b) form a group.  c) join some battleground.  *) problem solved!
11:57.38phyberoooo, he card read good.
11:57.39Soullessyeah
11:57.58Soullesspremade fun is way more challenging/fun than just pugging for shit
11:58.34AzurewrathAV with premade groups was fun.. it's just a brainless zerg without group join..
11:58.42naeneeIt's not challenging if your opponents are not a premade.
11:58.57phyberit's just like they should nerf all those premades that raid naxx.  they're making it difficult for the PUGs to keep up :/
11:59.06Soullessi agree phyber
11:59.11Soullessthis should become a fps
11:59.18Soullessand we all have the same stats
11:59.23Soullessand abilities
11:59.29naeneeOh well.
11:59.31andremarbut they could make it so that premades fought against premades for instance
11:59.43Azurewrathit's not challenging nor fun if 80% of your "Teammates" are green-equipped lvl 55 dumbheads who don't care for graveyards..
11:59.49naeneeI suppose there are always people who turn it into something silly :)
12:00.18Soullessbut then youre makign it harder for people who work together to success
12:00.23Soullessesp if they have shit gear
12:00.30yacoobwell, just split the queue
12:00.40yacoobpremade vs premade, pug vs pug, and everything is golden
12:00.45Soullessqueue system is fine, aside you should be able to group queue av with 15
12:00.47yacoobdon't want to wait in pug queue? go team up.
12:01.16Soullessthats stupid, then only naxx teams would queue up for premades, since lesser teams won't have gear
12:01.40andremarI'm pretty sure some premade pvp groups would also sign up for the premade queue
12:01.44Soullesssegregation queues would be dumber than buffing warlocks
12:01.51yacoobSoulless, but that's totally different problem :>
12:02.01Soullessso whats the fic\x?
12:02.05Soullessmaking everything equal?
12:02.13Soullessits stupid, its a damn mmo, nothing equal
12:02.16yacoobthere is none, if you want to satisfy both hardcore and casual gamers
12:02.48Soullesspretty sure with the advent of raiding instances that blizzard favors teamwork as it makes people want to contine to play
12:02.54phreakyIsn't Necronomicon (ace version of Necrosis) beeing developed anymore? Or is there another alternative for it?
12:02.57yacoobSoulless, I'm checking out guildwars right now, trying to see how things look there ;>
12:03.09Soullessgw was cool
12:03.17yacoobwhy 'was'? :>
12:03.18Elkanothere are most likely ways to calculate at least some value for a player based on gear (and maybe past performance), that would give better matchmakings...
12:03.42Soullessphreaky: theres a similer mod called henge, but its still in development, its class neuteral, and allows you to put the buttons you want on it
12:03.44Kaeltenphreaky: I know it hasn't been updated for wow2.0 yet
12:04.20Necrathexisn't this bg problem exactly what's being fixed in the new arena's?
12:04.25yacoobElkano, I just realized... premade of ebayers!
12:04.35yacoobbut anyway
12:04.50yacoobwhen I took a wider look, it's not wow problem, it's blizz problem
12:04.53phreakyKaelten: okey =)
12:04.57Necrathexin the expansion battlegrounds will be more or less obsolete, arena system makes matches based on score right?
12:05.00yacoobsome decisions seems to be made basing on pure guesses
12:05.00phreakySoulless: ok thnks :)
12:05.27yacooblike, last patch that gimped amount of honour points (or whatever it's called) after 2.0 introduction
12:05.33yacoobbecause people climbed up ranks too fast
12:05.43Elkanoyacoob, in this case, the gear counts and the player who is most likely not as good as the one wo premade the char, will have to go against better players as punishment
12:06.01Azurewrathyacoob: played Guild Wars in beta.. gets boring very fast.. it's simply no mmorpg. The only Place you can be together with all the people are those Big Towns, everything else is an 'instance' limited to 8 Players or something..
12:06.02yacooblike, noone actually took the freedom of performing some CALCULATIONS to estimate how fast people would get points?
12:06.09yacoobThat's what's stupid.
12:07.08Azurewraththey should have removed like 200% honor, not only 30%...
12:07.08yacoobAzurewrath, well, they do not claim it's mmorpg :>
12:07.30Azurewrathyacoob: ya i know, but many players do ;)
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12:07.41yacoobAzurewrath, my heart bleed for them :D
12:08.08yacoobanyway, gw seems to be more "controlled" environment than wow
12:08.21Wobinyurgh
12:08.25WobinI hated GuildWars
12:08.40yacooblike, more folks inbetween board of directors being poked by customer service and your plain developers that just do what they're told to.
12:09.44Azurewrathhehe
12:11.38Kirkburn|afkyacoob, how exactly do you propose calculating a *future* event?
12:11.58Kirkburn|afkNot only that it's in the future, but one that depends on people's opinions
12:12.12yacoobKirkburn|afk, come on
12:12.24yacoobKirkburn|afk, people been playing bgs very very long
12:12.30yacoobyou have whole history of it
12:12.41Kirkburn|afkAnd this is a completely new system
12:12.48yacoobyou can now match new rewarding system to AVOID situations like that
12:13.00yacoobyou only need to ANALYZE things you already have
12:13.08yacooband not throw some arbitrary values
12:13.23vhaarrKirkburn|afk: Why does CF2 require that _Design crap?
12:13.42yacoobKirkburn|afk, it's my very impression they didn't thought about that much
12:13.53phybervhaarr: I was wondering the same thing.  it could just be design.lua in the CF2 main directory ;)
12:14.01vhaarrphyber: indeed
12:14.05Kirkburn|afkyacoob, I think you're being pretty unfair. Would you have predicted that nearly everyone would go absolutely mad with PvPing over anything else?
12:14.15vhaarrKirkburn|afk: I'll move the design code to ClearFont2 if you don't mind.
12:14.25Kirkburn|afkBecause that way the base code can be updated without messing with the design code
12:14.36Kirkburn|afkIt's to get around the problems posed by WAU
12:14.54yacoobKirkburn|afk, of course
12:15.02yacoobnew pvp thingy? 7 million subscribers?
12:15.10yacoobconnect dots :)
12:15.11phyberKirkburn|afk: but users are idiots.  they'll overwrite their _Design anyway and come complain.
12:15.27wafflewhy wouldn't they switch to PvP, if you could get some of the best weapons in the game in less than a week of playing?
12:15.29phyberarms flailing and everything!
12:15.40Kirkburn|afklol, that's not the point.
12:16.01yacoobwaffle, you must start all your assumption that your statistical wow user is dumb
12:16.09waffle??
12:16.09Kirkburn|afkWith WAU if I update the base code, WAU won't do anything to the design code
12:16.14yacoob(it's not an insult, please :)
12:16.24AzurewrathKirkburn|afk: users will update both.
12:16.37Kirkburn|afkThat's not how WAU works!
12:16.43waffleif the statistical wow user is dumb, why do most people avoid PvP in AV?  it's pretty smart/efficient.
12:16.48AzurewrathThat's how users work ;)
12:17.08Kirkburn|afkargh, cope with it, or show me how to do a big database for it :P
12:17.35Kirkburn|afkAV is the long game, puts many off
12:17.47Azurewrathwaffle: as i said, having lvl 55 green-shit-equipped teammates who never care about defending is NOT smart :p
12:17.53waffleactually it is.
12:18.02waffleto maximize your honor per hour, don't defend.
12:18.16wafflegetting a fast loss is fine as long as you go kill NPCs cap towers etc.
12:18.19Azurewrathwho cares about honor, i want to win.
12:18.23vhaarrKirkburn|afk: I added a CustomDesigns.lua to the TOC, so users can do whatever they want.
12:18.30wafflethe players care about honor because that's the reward for playing.
12:18.31odtwhy, u don't have a 100 mark's all the time?
12:18.37vhaarrKirkburn|afk: Want me to SVN remove the ClearFont2_Design directory?
12:19.24Kirkburn|afkEither you're completely confused about how it works, or I'm not getting what you're saying ...
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12:20.58vhaarrKirkburn|afk: I've moved the _Design addon into ClearFont2 as Design.lua, and I've added a new path in the TOC to a file called CustomDesign.lua that does not exist - it can contain one function called "ApplyCustomClearFontDesign". If this exists, it will be called after applying the stuff from Design.lua.
12:21.00Kirkburn|afkI'm confused, why is ClearFont2 coming up 'oddly' in WAU? It's under an "SVN" heading
12:21.34Kirkburn|afkOh, I seee what you're saying now
12:21.34vhaarrSo users can simply create this file and it won't be touched by anything, even SVN.
12:21.37KaeltenKirkburn|afk: the SVN heading is for addons that have svn folders in them
12:21.48Kirkburn|afkAh, crap, I didn't remove them all
12:22.09vhaarrKirkburn|afk: So, good to commit?
12:22.17Kirkburn|afkvhaarr, yeah, if it works :)
12:22.25vhaarrof course it works :)
12:22.28Kirkburn|afkhehe
12:22.42Kirkburn|afkGood idea btw, I would never have thought of that
12:22.50mjcyou guys are freakin nuts
12:23.23Kirkburn|afk(although if you turn on 'delete before updating' on WAU it could be a problem, but custom designers should just keep a copy of the file around)
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12:24.51SoLoRi think 99% of wau users are using wau with default settings so i think that with deleating and updating everything...
12:24.58SoLoRrest are using svn :)
12:25.04vhaarrKirkburn|afk: Committed, and I deleted the _Design addon.
12:25.13Kaeltenheh we had more than 25million hits during the month of nov.
12:25.16Necrathexbtw, is there any alternative to kc_items, itemsync, lootlink?
12:25.37DrZoottooltip exchange
12:25.42KaeltenNecrathex: whats wrong with kc_items? :P
12:25.52Necrathexit can't relink
12:25.57Kaeltenrelink?
12:26.13Necrathexi get disconnected when letting kc_items generate an item link
12:26.29Wobinaye that happens to me too, come to think of it
12:26.33Kaeltenah thats probably because its generating a link based on a 4 part system instead of the new 8 part system
12:26.37Necrathexidd
12:26.43Kaeltenit'll be fixed in 1.0
12:27.05Necrathexwhat's the eta of 1.0? :)
12:27.08Gandharvaupdating without externals in tortoisesvn seems to work only once. is there a way to always update without?
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12:27.53Kirkburn|afkvhaarr, did you check for any svn files?
12:28.00KaeltenNecrathex: hehe hard to say exactly. but *soon*
12:28.01vhaarr"svn files"?
12:28.21SoLoRGandharva use update to revision, check head revision & omit externals
12:28.28Kirkburn|afk"<Kaelten> Kirkburn|afk: the SVN heading is for addons that have svn folders in them" <-- ClearFont2 appears under an SVN heading on WAU
12:28.44GandharvaSoloR: Thanks!
12:28.55vhaarrKirkburn|afk: I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
12:28.56Kirkburn|afkWhich it shouldn't be under :P I forgot to delete all the svn info folders before importing to trunk
12:28.59KaeltenKirkburn|afk: all checked out copies are going to have that in them
12:29.28CIA-1703rabbit * r21414 10ClearFont2/ (5 files):
12:29.28CIA-17ClearFont2: Moved the ClearFont2_Design addon into ClearFont2 as Design.lua, and
12:29.29CIA-17I've added a new path in the TOC to a file called CustomDesign.lua that does not
12:29.29CIA-17exist - it can contain one function called"ApplyCustomClearFon tDesign". If this
12:29.29CIA-17exists, it will be called after applying the stuff from Design.lua.
12:29.29CIA-1703laric * r21415 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.lua AoFDKP.toc dkp.bat dkp_list.lua libs/):
12:29.33CIA-17AoFDKP :
12:29.35CIA-17- Code cleanup
12:29.37CIA-17- Fixing some chat hook errors
12:29.39CIA-17- Change to Roster-2.1
12:29.42Kirkburn|afkWhen I imported it originally it imported *with* svn folders that shouldn't have been there :P I shall check it ...
12:34.37Kirkburn|afkDammit, it's still showing wrong in WAU and I can't see how to fix it
12:35.05KaeltenKirkburn|afk: do you have it checked out from the svn?
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12:36.15Kirkburn|afknope afaik
12:36.41Kirkburn|afkIn WAU it comes up as saying "it appears to be a Subversion working copy"
12:37.06andremarperhaps your directory under AddOns in wow-dir is a svn working copy?
12:37.44mjcKirkburn|afk: it is a working copy, there is no other explanation
12:37.57Kirkburn|afkoooh, I feel stoopid now :P
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12:38.24Kirkburn|afkYou were all right =)
12:38.57yacoobspeaking of various mmorpg, anyone played eve online here?
12:39.04netcurseyep
12:39.21mjcew
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12:40.35CIA-1703duglum * r21417 10ClearFont2/ClearFont2.toc: ClearFont2: removed "## Dependencies: ClearFont2_Design"
12:48.13Wobinyep
12:48.17WobinI did the 10day trial at least
12:48.30Kirkburn|afkI've thought about it a few times
12:50.02CIA-1703rabbit * r21418 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: .SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0: Check if we're already mounted before triggering another event.
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12:50.38Kirkburn|afkCIA is 4 revisions behind atm :/
12:50.48phyberyeah
12:51.20phyberKirkburn, I added a note about that ApplyCustomClearFontDesign() and CustomDesign.lua to the ChangeLog.txt.
12:51.28Kirkburn|afkta
12:51.34phyberso people don't start downloading it and reading about CF2_Design ;)
12:51.46Kirkburn|afkYou keep preempting me :P
12:53.39Gngskanyone got a screenshot of oLightsUp?
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12:54.52CIA-1703phyber * r21420 10ClearFont2/Changelog.txt:
12:54.52CIA-17ClearFont2:
12:54.53CIA-17- Added a note about the new ApplyCustomClearFontDesign and overriding the defaults using it.
12:55.50CIA-1703kirkburn * r21419 10ClearFont2/ClearFont2.toc: ClearFont2: Changed OptDep FuBarPlugin-2 to FuBarPlugin-2.0
12:57.47yacoobhow do you rate eve then?
12:57.53CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21421 10Prat/modules/ChatLog.lua: Prat: decorated module and locals names to prevent collision with addon "ChatLog"
12:57.53CIA-1703rabbit 07Rabbit * r21422 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFu.lua: FuBar_ReagentFu: Remove lua51 check.
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12:58.00yacoobI've got the trial yesterday, but the tutorial is horrible :)
12:59.20phyberisn't it just: find asteroid -> mine asteroid -> avoid pirates -> sell ore -> repeat ?
12:59.42phyber(insert something about a ship upgrade after you sold a million ore or so)
12:59.51phreakyAny1 using KC_Items? =) And can tell me how to link for example [Runecloth] (only) and not getting it to be [Runecloth Belt] :)
13:01.34DhragaMorning, or should I say afternoon =)
13:02.16phyberphreaky: tried hitting Tab?  see if it goes through the Runecloth* stuff
13:02.39Kirkburn|afkK, i've also committed Evil Elvis' font pack now
13:02.49phreakyphyber: i got a nick completition on tab =/
13:02.59phreakyoh.. Kc_Items disconnect me on ANY item i link with it also =)
13:03.12waffleThe MSBT dude needs to add a system where I can upgrade and not lose my custom fonts
13:03.14phreakyTried to link Runecloth Belt .. disconnected from server.. tried Soul Shard .. disconnected from server
13:04.29SoLoRKirkburn|afk btw does this fonts actualy have any influence on preformance if they are not loaded?
13:04.39andremarphreaky: its a known bug I think, its targeted for fixing in 1.0 or something
13:04.50SoLoRbecause if they dont why making "packs" in 1st place, just add everything under same roof :)
13:04.53phreakyandremar: oh okey.. hehe
13:05.13Kirkburn|afkSoLoR, nope, they shouldn't
13:05.22SoLoRye tought so
13:05.23Kirkburn|afkAnd packs to keep down download size :)
13:05.29SoLoR;)
13:05.45SoLoRye my addons folder is ~85MB... :(
13:05.47Kirkburn|afkClearFont is one of, if not the largest addon on the Ace SVN now :P
13:06.19phreakyDo Prat got nickname completition or is it some other addon that does that for me? =)
13:06.36phreakyAh, prat had it :) nvm
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13:13.16haarmHogfather Part 2 up for download
13:13.27haarmhttp://www.eztvefnet.org/
13:13.48FISKER_Q\anyone knows if blizzard is going to make a pvp blood elf mount obtainable like other pvp mounts?
13:14.36CIA-1703kirkburn * r21423 10ClearFont2_FontPack_1/ (16 files in 6 dirs): ClearFont2_FontPack_1: Initial commit + minor name change
13:15.16boone_-_is there any page on on wowace.com where i can submit bugreports?
13:15.29vhaarrboone_-_: TRAC, but what bug?
13:15.50boone_-_vhaarr, TopScoreFu not reporting hunters auto shoot
13:16.09yacoobphyber, this way you can describe wow as well ;)
13:16.14vhaarrboone_-_: phyber is right here.
13:16.19vhaarrhe made it, afaik
13:17.24phyberboone_-_: tried it with "Trivial Scores" on?
13:17.40phyberif you're hitting grey mobs.
13:17.53boone_-_haven't tried with trivial, but i'm not hitting anything below green
13:18.20boone_-_i'll try with trivial on for a few shots
13:18.53boone_-_nope, doesn't work with trivial on eithe
13:22.25boone_-_i'm also having problems with other peoples healingspells still counting, even though "include healing" isn't checked
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13:22.34boone_-_mainly renew's
13:26.04Gnarfozif something's defined this way, is there any way to access (accurately: overwrite) the table mod.icon from another mod?
13:26.05Gnarfozlocal mod = Cartographer:NewModule("Herbalism", "AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0")
13:26.05Gnarfozmod.icon = {
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13:33.02vhaarryes
13:33.13vhaarryou can get a reference to the mod from the AceModuleCore
13:34.20Soullessoh fuck this, i'm done with ace mods http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5386/high-five/
13:34.30Soulless>_<
13:35.34vhaarr?
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13:35.59Codayuslol
13:35.59cncfanaticsyo all !
13:36.04CodayusCoolest addon ever?  I think so.
13:36.04Soullessvhaarr: im kidding lol
13:36.12SoullessHigh gives for all!
13:36.22vhaarryes but I didn't get the joke :(
13:36.25CodayusAnd by "coolest" I mean "I just lost 10 iq points reading the description".  :-/
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13:37.12Soullessi guess i should typed im done with ace mods for until this gets rewritten with ace
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13:37.30sylvanaarphreaky: what do you mean by nick completion
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13:37.52Codayusvhaarr: The joke is, if High Five isn't an ace mod, then clearly ace mods have no point.  :-)  (Or that's how I interpreted it.)
13:37.59vhaarraha
13:38.05Soullessyes, sorry >_>
13:38.08vhaarr:P
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13:39.45odti read: ace mods are pointless. link to proof.
13:39.52vhaarrme too
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13:40.02Codayusodt: Well, yeah.  But if you follow the link...
13:40.09odtlol yeah
13:40.12odthigh five
13:40.13CIA-1703rabbit * r21425 10BigWigs/Docs/ (. Leader.txt Participant.txt): BigWigs: Add some docs, not finished yet but it's a start. We need a FAQ and stuff as well, any volunteers? ^^
13:40.20waffleno high five changelog? wtf
13:40.33odthigh five with 2 hands
13:40.34CodayusYour only conclusion would be that A) Soulless has partaken of an extremely high grade of crack, or B) He wasn't being fully serious.  :-)
13:40.45vhaarrI went with A
13:40.51vhaarrhence the '?'
13:40.53CodayusYa
13:40.59Codayus...zomg, maintance already?
13:41.23CodayusHmm, guess I won't log on after all.
13:41.25Necrathexhm, i'm not the only one who got d/c+ :p
13:41.48Codayus....well, nuts.
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13:42.27Soullessi don't do crack :(
13:42.27sylvanaarwhat a stupid mod - everyone will be running it in a week
13:42.32kenlyricis there a way to easily view all the changelog for a mod? other than opening up each zip file?
13:42.48CodayusDo you use WAU?
13:42.57Soulless<PROTECTED>
13:43.19sylvanaaryeah - gonna spread like cancer
13:43.24Codayus....must resist the temptation to teach purl a new trick
13:43.58kenlyricme? i use wau, but I could switch to svn... wau is just lazy and surly.
13:44.13Necrathexhm, Tooltip Exchange pwns :)
13:44.14CodayusRight click on a mod in WAU and you can get a changelog.
13:44.42kenlyricoh, duh. I'm an idiot. Thanks :)
13:44.59CodayusHeh, it seems obvious in retrospect, but I had to ask someone too.  :-/
13:45.19odthmm, the lua from that mod actually makes sense to me
13:45.22krkagreat success! high five!
13:45.29vhaarr~highfive
13:45.39odtback at ya!
13:45.54WobinWhat's it do?
13:45.57WobinTooltip exchange that is
13:46.16yacoobone tooltip goes abroad, to study at the other mmorpg.
13:46.27vhaarrhaha
13:46.32odtlol
13:46.35vhaarrclassic
13:46.44sylvanaar~sylvanaar
13:46.46purlACTION expires
13:46.51phybersomeone should make a mod called "Too Slow!" that responds to that high five stuff by laughing at the person and whispering then with "TOO SLOW!"
13:47.13vhaarrit should just be included in Ace2 imo
13:47.24vhaarrpack it in AceComm, it does so many other things
13:47.29phyberhehe
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13:47.33sylvanaaroh no, lol too funny
13:47.49sylvanaarprat imo
13:47.56Wobin=(
13:48.03WobinPeople want MrPlow to sort by set
13:48.15sylvanaarhow does it sort now?
13:48.18kenlyricawww... the login server is down too... they must be putting the patch into place.
13:48.21evlalpha + quality :P
13:48.27sylvanaarah
13:48.28WobinAnd by set, they mean sets defined by Wardrobe et al
13:48.39sylvanaaralways wondered what it was doing, but never looked at the code
13:48.39kenlyricsounds complicated, but useful.
13:48.51WobinSomewhat beyond the scope of the addon I think =P
13:48.58odtkenlyric: patch?
13:49.03vhaarrWobin: indeed
13:49.05WobinI don't think I'll go around making it work with every single outfitting mod out there =P
13:49.17kenlyricthey rarely start maintenance two hours earlier without a patch.
13:49.19vhaarrWobin: If you make it, make it only work for closetgnome of course.
13:49.22vhaarr:P
13:49.24WobinNaturally =P
13:49.34vhaarrmy data format is simple I tells ya!
13:49.37WobinBut how will it sort if two sets have the same item?
13:49.40sylvanaarclosetgnome needs the ALT key function from itemrack
13:49.43Wobin!!
13:49.47vhaarrsylvanaar: SwapMagic.
13:49.56vhaarrWobin: autodelete item
13:50.02WobinPerfect
13:50.07WobinNo more conflicts =P
13:50.10vhaarr^^
13:50.24WobinMrPlow: I'm in ur akkount shardin ur purplz
13:50.31vhaarrhaha
13:50.37yacoobwhatdoyoumean no more conflicts?
13:50.41sylvanaarvhaarr: sm you can hold alt on your inventory slots and it will show popup of all your items for that slot?
13:51.10FtH|eaglesylvanaar: exactly
13:52.09phyberWobin: it will use some texture trickery and split the item in two.  informing the users that they get to keep both halves.
13:52.26WobinJust like that wise orc King! Solomon somthing or other
13:52.58vhaarrIf the player is a mage, you conjure up some water and replace its texture with the item in question, so it looks like he has 2.
13:53.32WobinOr split a stack of something else and use that
13:53.43vhaarrgood idea
13:53.59WobinOr just replace everything with that texture
13:54.04Wobinand say omg dupe bug
13:54.05vhaarrhehe
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13:54.48vhaarrWobin: what MrPlow needs is a d'oh sound that it plays randomly when the player dies.
13:54.53sylvanaarSwapMagic = ps2 copy protection bypass
13:54.58Wobinhehe
13:55.06Wobinor when they get knocked down
13:55.17Wobinit randomly shifts something around in the inventory
13:55.25vhaarrhaha evul
13:55.30sylvanaarjust go doh, and hide all the textures in the inventory
13:56.08phyberput the icons for the items all over the screen and make them "pick up" the crap that they dropped.
13:56.23sylvanaarlol
13:56.29phyberif the item is more important, scale the icon down, so they can't find it.
13:56.33vhaarrhaha
13:56.35sylvanaarunfortunately that'd be a useful feature
13:56.36phyberand hide them behind bartender, etc.
13:58.07sylvanaaranyone know how rdx's decurse support works?
13:58.20phreakysylvanaar: Same as i type sylv and press Tab in mirc :)
13:58.49boone_-_phyber, figured anything out? i can get topscorefu to count pretty much anything but auto shot
13:59.02phyberboone_-_: I'm at work.  so i haven't even looked at it.
13:59.10phyberand i don't have a hunter.
13:59.21boone_-_phyber, ah, okay
13:59.32sylvanaarphreaky: ok your response came right after i asked another question - lol
13:59.49phyberboone_-_: there will just be some combat text that I'm not looking at.
13:59.54Kirkburn<Codayus> Right click on a mod in WAU and you can get a changelog. <-- only one problem with that. It downloads the entire zip to do it. So it takes an age with Cartographer or ClearFont ^^
14:00.02boone_-_phyber, okay
14:00.07CodayusHeh, interesting.
14:00.16CodayusMakes snese, I guess.
14:00.17phyberboone_-_: did it work before 2.0?
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14:00.34KirkburnMakes sense, but took me a while to work out why the hell it was so slow :P
14:00.34boone_-_phyber, i actually didn't use fubar prior to 2.0, so i don't know
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14:00.45boone_-_i'm a converted titanbar-ist
14:00.48phyberah, ok :)
14:01.26sylvanaarphreaky: tab completion of names is done by the playernames module
14:01.28boone_-_but just fyi, i've tried purging all data, check/uncheck all damage/healing calcs, and removing the savedvariables, but still no reporting
14:02.31kenlyricKirkburn, is there another way to see the changelog?
14:02.48KirkburnBrowse the SVN
14:03.06Kirkburnsvn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk
14:03.26Wobinomg
14:03.27Wobin* NEW: link = GetInboxItemLink(index)
14:03.27KirkburnNot exactly perfect, of course :P
14:03.33WobinFinally!
14:03.33sylvanaarboone_-_: i think there is a known issue with autoshot
14:03.35Wobinyay!
14:03.44phyberboone_-_: what does the Auto Shot hit/crit line look like?
14:03.53phyberif you could type some into ace.pastey.net or something
14:04.01boone_-_phyber, there is none, it doesnt appear at all
14:04.01phyberso I can try to find the string that the game's using.
14:04.15Kirkburnkenlyric, you do have one other option, the Trac
14:04.21phyberboone_-_: so autoshot doesn't put anything in your combatlog?
14:04.28odtit does for me lol
14:04.35odtor how else does sctd pick it up
14:04.47boone_-_oh, yeah it does in the combat log, like "Your Auto Shot hits X for X."
14:04.56Kirkburnkenlyric, www.wowace.com/trac/log/trunk, and you can browse by addon
14:04.56GngskImprovedRWF should recognize Prat's playername colors like it does Teknicolor
14:05.16phyberboone_-_: go in game and hit something with it.  need the exact text ;)
14:05.37boone_-_Phyber, "Your Auto Shot hits Commander Duffy for 377."
14:05.43yacoobhttp://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?productID=91
14:05.45yacoob:>
14:06.20vhaarryacoob: haha, the back side was cool
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14:06.51phyberboone_-_: thanks.  checking now.
14:07.00boone_-_phyber, np
14:07.34odti think i have only the simple combat log format visible, so i can't check for the exact text
14:08.02odtbut i think for crits, it's the same text, but "critically hits"
14:08.20phyberstrange.
14:08.22beerkeno
14:08.28phyberit should be captured by: spell, target, amount = deformat(arg1, SPELLLOGSELFOTHER, RESIST_TRAILER)
14:08.32beerkehits == crits incase of a crit
14:08.40kenlyricI believe it uses the word "crits"
14:09.39odthmm, how do i get a "normal" combat log in addition to scl?
14:10.11kenlyricwell, you can restore your chat options to default, create a new chat tab and put the scl messages in there.
14:10.36kenlyricor you can... ug... recreate the combat log in a new chat tab.
14:10.46phyberboone_-_: could you try something for me?
14:10.52boone_-_phyber, sure
14:11.07phyberon line 327 of TopScoreFu.lua, change 'spell, target, amount = deformat(arg1, SPELLLOGSELFOTHER, RESIST_TRAILER)' -> 'spell, target, amount = deformat(arg1, SPELLLOGSELFOTHER)'
14:11.20sylvanaarSPELLLOGOTHEROTHER
14:11.20sylvanaarSPELLLOGCRITOTHEROTHER
14:11.20sylvanaarto the event
14:11.20sylvanaarCHAT_MSG_COMBAT_PARTY_HITS
14:11.22phybersee if that works.
14:11.41boone_-_alright, testing
14:12.19phyberI'm not sure how deformat works with the trailers.  like, does it check if the string has a trailer, and if it doesn't does it drop the trailer and test it again? :/
14:12.44phyberactually, reading some more.  it doesn't
14:12.56phybersince the version without RESIST_TRAILER is a few lines up
14:12.59phyberbah.
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14:14.16sylvanaarGngsk: how does it recognize Technicolor's?
14:14.43boone_-_phyber, no go
14:16.06phyberyeah, I know.  I realised the version without it was already yhere.
14:16.15phyberthere.
14:16.29phybermaybe it's because of the space in "Auto Shot" ?
14:16.38phyberSPELLLOGSELFOTHER = "Your %s hits %s for %d.";
14:16.42Wobin=\
14:16.47boone_-_phyber, shouldn't be, Arcane Shot and similar counts
14:16.54phyberweird.
14:17.03boone_-_very.
14:17.07phyberI would think it had to be: Your %s %s hits %s for %d.
14:17.09sylvanaaryou need to check those 2 before the others for that event
14:17.10phyberfor something with a space in it.
14:17.39sylvanaar"Foo's Auto Shot hits Twilight Geolord for 374"
14:17.52sylvanaarmatches with COMBATHITOTHEROTHER which is: ^(.*) hits (.*) for (.*).
14:18.30phyberCOMBATHIT isn't Spell damage though
14:18.49sylvanaarhows that relevant
14:18.57phyberthey're different events, apparently.
14:19.04phyber<PROTECTED>
14:19.07phyber<PROTECTED>
14:19.23phybereach is being checked in a different function
14:19.28sylvanaarCOMBATHIT is a pattern
14:20.09phyberyeah, and I'm not checking for COMBATHIT in my Spell function.
14:20.24phyberso it won't have been matched by combathit before going to the spell stuff.
14:21.21sylvanaarthe issue i have seen was with CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_PARTY_HITS
14:21.58phyberwhen do hunters get auto shot?  if it's in the early levels, I could roll one later to test all this properly.
14:22.03sylvanaarso, the details may not match with your cast
14:22.24phreakyphyber: they always got autoshot dont they?
14:22.34phyberphreaky: I don't know, I haven't played one before ;)
14:22.38phreakyI think so :)
14:22.51boone_-_phyber, level 1
14:22.52phreakyJust shoot the bow/gun and it keeps shooting
14:22.53phyberI'm a Warlock/Priest/Mage/Druid, currently.
14:23.10phyberbecause squishy armour is cool.
14:23.11sylvanaaris it a bug that topscore has "Foo's renew" in the list of data that it collects?
14:23.22kenlyricyes, hunter bow works like wand.
14:23.28phybersylvanaar: I'd say so.
14:23.34kenlyricstupid rogue/warrior ranged weapon should too.
14:23.45AzurewrathKirkburn: mhm.. what font is being used for bufftimers? line 86 in Design.lua?
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14:24.10phybersylvanaar: I have to come up with a way to stop that at sometime :)
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14:24.28KirkburnHuh, that wasn't supposed to happen ...
14:24.36KirkburnAnyway, dunno =)
14:24.42KirkburnProbably GameFontNormalSmall?
14:25.02sylvanaaryeah, the way its been done is by moving all the 's off using a space
14:25.20KirkburnBest not to reference line numbers, btw, I don't have a line numbery editor :P
14:26.16KirkburnIf anyone finds specific instances of font use, please *please* add that info to Core.lua. Please :)
14:26.31boone_-_phyber, and when you're done with that bug, i have another one for you ;).
14:27.03phybersylvanaar: hmm.  so at the beginning of the function so a s/'s/ 's/ ?  to stick a space in there?
14:27.39phyberboone_-_: what's the other bug :)
14:27.43Trillany mods looking for programming help?
14:28.03vhaarrTrill: Like what?
14:28.04boone_-_phyber, i can't seem to get rid of hot's. renew's, rejuvs etc count on my list, even though i'm filtering heals
14:28.10sylvanaarthen you have to do the same with the patterns so they will match
14:28.22Trillvhaar: anything, just looking to donate some time to help with mods programming/wiki etc.
14:28.42vhaarrTrill: BigWigs' Karazhan modules needs a lot of work.
14:28.53WobinIf you want to help me write wiki pages for my addons, feel free =)
14:28.56sylvanaarPrat needs wiki verbage
14:28.57KirkburnWhat part of Ace adds /rl as an alias?
14:29.06vhaarrTrill: And we also need docs.
14:29.19vhaarrTrill: Like some docs on how to write boss modules, a general FAQ.
14:29.21vhaarretc
14:29.21WobinCore Ace, I think
14:29.25Wobinprobably Console
14:29.30vhaarryes
14:29.30Trillok
14:29.52vhaarrTrill: There's plenty of stuff to go around, I think you have to decide what you want to do.
14:31.02Trilli agree, i just see most of the modules I would have wanted to write are already written , so I figured I would donate some time to help :)
14:31.19grzesieqHm, anyone using macros with [button:2]?
14:31.24WobinOh man =P Red Sauce on Pasta =P
14:31.37Soullessgrzesieq: no, but isn't that just right click?
14:31.41vhaarrbah now I have to make dinner Wobin
14:31.52phyberTrill: if you feel like it, you can read up on these TopScoreFu bugs ;)
14:31.59Wobinnono vhaarr
14:32.36Wobinhttp://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/jknevitt/redsauce.gif
14:32.36grzesieqWell, they seem to be broken with Bartender3 :/
14:32.36vhaarrWobin: wtf, haha
14:32.36Wobingrzesieq: You'll need to use S02
14:32.37phyberas an additional bug, people tell me that Druid's Mangle isn't captured.
14:32.37Trillok will look around at all this right now :)
14:32.37Wobinand S01
14:32.44Wobinvhaarr: I have no idea... I just can't stop snickering
14:32.54AzurewrathKirkburn: mhm yes, was GameFontNormalSmall.. i set it to 12 from 11 locally, 11 was a bit to small for me, but i guess thats just a personal favor :)
14:32.57grzesieqWobin: uh?
14:33.01Soullessphyber: its not, well i dunno
14:33.05Soullessit does weird things
14:33.09Wobingrzesieq: [button:S02]
14:33.12Wobinfor the macro
14:33.14grzesieqoh, ty
14:33.14Wobinin bartender
14:33.17KirkburnAzurewrath, feel like adding that to the lua? :)
14:33.34Soullessit shows up sometimes as "a (Cat)" and "a (Bear)"
14:33.40AzurewrathKirkburn: like where and what? ;)
14:34.05Wobinwoo
14:34.06Soullesswhen it should be Mangle (Cat) and Mangle (Bear) but i dunno
14:34.10Wobin3 minutes til Christmas present =P
14:34.23Wobin--> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220062698381
14:34.27grzesieqWobin: wee, ty
14:34.37Wobingrzesieq: np =)
14:34.48SoullessIM BIDDING
14:34.49KirkburnMmm, nvm Azurewrath, I'll look at it later, got another thing I gotta add, but packing to go home-home right now (rather than Uni-home where I am atm)
14:35.05grzesieqTrying to set up the UI with as few buttons as possible is damn hard as a lock :/
14:35.19WobinSure you are, Soulless
14:35.24Pkekyodoes anyone know how I can identify wether it is HORDE or ALLIANCE that is capturing a flag in AV?
14:35.28Wobin(You grinch you)
14:35.29SoullessWobin: you just got sniped....get smoked
14:35.36AzurewrathKirkburn: ok, i'd be glad to help, just tell me when you're home or something
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14:35.46KirkburnWobin, you're a Wonder Dog? Surely you should be called Gaspode!
14:36.11WobinKirkburn: I started the nick on the Discworld MUD... so Gaspode was already an NPC =)
14:36.20Kirkburnheh
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14:36.28KirkburnHome-home to Uni-home is over 4 hours by train :/ *sigh*
14:36.57Groll/join #wowi-lounge
14:37.00Grolloops :P
14:37.04Groll/j #wowi-lounge
14:37.06Grollmeh
14:37.25Wobinwoohoo!
14:37.34Wobin*plays FFIX Victory music*
14:37.36KirkburnHow ... how are you managing to type a / without it trying to execute it?
14:37.37WobinOMG BEAR
14:37.46Wobin/say?
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14:38.00GrollKirkburn i pasted it or well typed /join #wowi-lounge
14:38.07Grollbah
14:38.13Grolltyp /join and after that the paste
14:38.15alcaras_any experienced aguf layout editors know what FrameHeight and FrameWidth do in ThemeData?
14:38.18DrZootAnyone used the Oxygen XML editor for WoW XML? Its really damn good.
14:38.27Kirkburn/moo
14:38.34alcaras_e.g. FrameHeigh is 25, but then it later specifies the portrait has height 27, which confooses me
14:38.39Kirkburnoooh, I thought you were just being silly, Wobin :P
14:38.41kenlyric/my irc client only interprets correct / commands.
14:39.00Kirkburn(I just wrote "/say /moo")
14:39.14hasteI can write / /hello
14:39.27DrZootGrats on the mixer Wobin :D
14:39.32Wobinyay =)
14:39.49tlundkenlyric: thats a problem when you do /mgs tlund i love you
14:39.52KirkburnThou shalt have many years of fun with thy mixer
14:40.03Grollgotta check laundry brb
14:40.20kenlyric/w tlund I want your body.
14:40.23alcaras_anyone know what FrameHeight actually _Does_ in a layout lua file for aguf?
14:40.23kenlyricjust like that ;)
14:40.42krka/irssi ftw
14:40.53alcaras_ooh, it specifies defaults for all frames in the category apparently?
14:41.06alcaras_unless otherwise overwritten
14:41.10alcaras_zomg that makes a difference
14:41.19alcaras_i thought it specified the frame size itself
14:41.47alcaras_i think
14:41.54alcaras_gah, this is confusing and http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrame_Themes is very sparse
14:42.14cncfanaticsis there a destroy method in AceOO ? that destroys an instanced object, much the oposite of :new
14:42.37krkathere is no destroy in lua
14:42.41krkajust garbage collection
14:42.56krkasimply remove all references to the object
14:43.04cncfanaticswell, if I nil an object out and then call a garbage collect it has the same effect pretty much
14:43.15cncfanaticsjust wanted to know if AceOO supports that directly
14:43.23krkahow could it?
14:43.45krkait would need to know about every other variable that might refer to the object
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14:44.40Pkekyodoes anyone know how I can identify which faction is capturing a flag in AV/AB/EPL?
14:45.07WobinSince there's no way to mark an object for deletion, AceOO can't specifically handle it
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14:45.27AzurewrathPkekyo: isn't there a "by the Horde" etc. in every string?
14:45.57Soullesshttp://talents.unleashedgaming.net/?p=vt&i=3434  lol priest talents
14:46.08Pkekyomight be...haven't thought of that, actually
14:46.51PkekyoI'm not really that experienced when it comes to coding addons though soeh...don't actually know where to look for it
14:47.14Necrathex~ckknight
14:47.23purlckknight is awesome.  Ace2 developer, author of Fubar and the incredibly f***ing cool Cartographer.
14:47.33cncfanaticslolz
14:47.35cncfanatics~cncfanatics
14:47.37purl[cncfanatics] the flexbar2 author
14:47.40cncfanaticswonder if there's still the asshat one :p
14:47.42cncfanatics:o, nope
14:47.51Necrathexasshot?
14:47.52hastenothing beats:
14:47.53Necrathex:p
14:47.54haste~haste
14:47.56purlrevered as a god in some countries.
14:48.06hasteaw, it's not as much fun when that one was added
14:48.44haste~literal haste
14:48.45purl"haste" is "<reply>revered as a god in some countries. || <reply>a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo."
14:48.56PkekyogAzurewrath: got any ideas when it comes to where to look for that string?
14:49.20hastepurl: no, haste is "<reply>a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo."
14:49.21purlhaste: okay
14:50.42nuOHEP~haste
14:50.44purlwell, haste is "<reply>a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo."
14:50.53hasteah damn
14:51.27hastethere, fixed
14:52.29cncfanatics~seen PProvost
14:52.54purlpprovost <n=PProvost@pool-71-112-36-154.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18h 16m 48s ago, saying: 'Not perfect, I know, but that is where it is. Dig in the menus, its there.'.
14:52.54phyberSoulless: Improved Shadowform is nice ;)
14:53.00Soullessthere are some pretty funny ones in that
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14:55.38KirkburnMr. Teatime!
14:56.07Necrathex~Capper
14:56.27Necrathex~Capping
14:56.40Pkekyowhat you need to know 'bout Capping, Necrathex?
14:57.25CIA-1703rabbit * r21427 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: Options: Put the FuBar options in a submenu as well.
14:57.25CIA-1703damjau * r21428 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - update koKR
14:57.25hastenote to self: never use a kitchen towel to fetch the pizza out of the oven
14:58.03Soullessphyber: did you read the holyform thing?
14:58.41Pkekyoanyone know if the author of Capping comes in here now and then?
14:59.24WobinTehAhTimEh, thankyouverymuch MrKirkburn
14:59.25Kirkburn~Kirkburn
14:59.26purlwell, kirkburn is "<reply>Kirkburn is the author of the funky font switchers, ClearFont and ClearFont2!
14:59.39Wobinneed a space there guv
14:59.47Kirkburnkay
15:00.00phyberSoulless: yeah
15:00.25Kirkburn~emulate Kirkburn
15:00.27purlWould you like some cheese?
15:00.40alcaras~alcaras
15:00.43alcaras:-/
15:00.46KirkburnArgh
15:00.48krka~krka
15:00.49purl[krka] a semi-retired addon coder. made stuff such as AutoTravel, MapLibrary, ... not much else really
15:00.49alcaras~emulate alcaras
15:01.23krkapurl, no krka is a retired addon coder. made AutoTravel, MapLibrary and FAIAP
15:01.24purlkrka: okay
15:01.43krka~emulate krka
15:01.44purlfor concave 4 sided polygons, there is only ONE correct triangulation
15:01.46alcaraspurl, alcaras is the author of Warmath and maintains AlcUI @ http://subcreation.net/alcui/
15:01.48purlokay, alcaras
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15:02.02alcaras~emulate alcaras
15:02.11alcarasnot sure how to get an emulate
15:02.16alcarasi guess you talk a lot and purl wil pick it up?
15:02.18alcaras~alcaras
15:02.19purlsomebody said alcaras was the author of Warmath and maintains AlcUI @ http://subcreation.net/alcui/
15:02.19krkano
15:02.22KirkburnYou'll have to make one :P
15:02.26KirkburnOr not
15:02.27alcarashow do you make one?
15:02.44krkapurl, emulate alcaras is <reply> i suck
15:02.45purlkrka: okay
15:02.49krkaor something
15:02.52Kirkburn~Kirkburn
15:02.55purlI hear he's very fond of kittens. Buy him one. "
15:02.55krka~emulate alcaras
15:02.56purli suck
15:02.57Wobinoh man
15:02.58alcaraslol
15:03.02krkaoh, i got it right
15:03.03krkacool
15:03.07WobinI'd so 41 point Holy just for the Circles of Hell
15:03.38alcarason a serious note, does FrameWidth actually do anything of consequence in aguf layouts?
15:03.43alcarasor is it just overwritten by the user option Framewidth?
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15:04.55Kirkburnk, fixed my emulate and normal ones now :P I l teh uber
15:05.28Kirkburn*r  :)
15:05.33krka~emulate Kirkburn
15:05.35purlYes, Microsoft! Harder!
15:05.42Kirkburnhehe
15:06.02CIA-1703rabbit * r21430 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Move the prototype back to core, too much hassle.
15:06.48Kirkburnkrka, I must say I prefer the kittens one :P
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15:08.58Kirkburnlol:
15:09.01Kirkburn~sex
15:09.03purlupdatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/
15:09.36alcaras...
15:09.45Wobinrolf
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15:09.50KirkburnHarris?
15:09.51malrethholy crap... make clean?
15:10.00malrethi knew i kept forgetting something
15:10.07Kirkburnmalreth, is this why you smell like mildew?
15:10.27malrethi just keep leaving her there covered in--
15:10.31malrethwait, nm
15:10.37KirkburnMildew.
15:10.41malrethyah
15:10.43malrethmildew
15:11.03trhhi guys, i'm looking for a way to use AceConsole-2.2 in .xml files within the text="" property, but couldn't find something in the wiki, and text="L[\""my text\"" doesn't work
15:11.06krkawhere is tar xfv?
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15:12.02Wobintrh: I don't think you -can- in the xml file...
15:12.12WobinBut then again I've never used xml files
15:12.19Kirkburnkrka, where, or indeed, what?
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15:12.29trhWobin: so i have to use FrameNameText:SetText()? :/
15:12.46Wobintrh: possibly
15:12.57Wobintrh: I'm not sure about functionality within the XML
15:12.59krkado it in the <OnLoad> i guess
15:13.14hastetrh: aren't you mixing AceConsole with AceLocale now?
15:13.16krkathis:SetText(L["my test"])
15:13.53Wobinkrka: Would that work?
15:13.58WobinAceLocale isn't a mixin
15:14.09malrethif acelocale loaded before the xml file was processed
15:14.13malrethi don't see why not
15:14.14Wobinit's a local reference though usually
15:14.39malrethassuming a global variable, yah
15:14.48Wobinyeah, you could try that
15:14.59malrethhint... don't make single character global variables. :)
15:15.27Wobinhehe yeah =)
15:15.35WobinI was thinking it could lead to... issues
15:15.40malrethyah
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15:20.40Pkekyodoes anyone here know the lua of the addon Capping?
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15:21.22malrethis that like the tao of piglet?
15:21.34Pkekyotao? piglet? -confused
15:21.55beerkeAnyone knows how to create a scrollframe with CreateFrame ? Currently i derive from UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate. Then add several childrens/buttons to that frame. But the buttons will just og out of the frame boundaries instead of turning into a scrollframe
15:24.14Pkekyoanyone with knowledge of the wow lua willing to take 5 minutes or so and help me out with this addon?
15:25.06trhkrka: works with this:SetText, if i define a global variable in the .lua to use... not the best way, but it does i guess :)
15:26.48malrethPkekyo: what's the problem?
15:29.15AmadeoI seriously need a new headset for my PC, but I don't know what's good anymore
15:29.43krkai usually go for stereo
15:29.48krkamono feels flat
15:30.27Gnarfozplantronics, sennheiser -> ftw
15:30.28Gnarfoz:>
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15:31.11AmadeoSennheiser headsets?
15:31.13phyberI agree on the Plantronics.
15:31.22Pkekyomalreth: trying to figure out how I can have the text output change from what the value of a backdrop-parameter is
15:31.26Trillanyone know if FuBar SummonFu (not on wowace) is being updated?
15:31.52krkahm, would this be good? http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=64901
15:31.59malreththat sounds a bit... general
15:32.02AmadeoI have an older DSP-500 now, while it works well still...it's half-broken, and it hurts my ears after wearing a long time
15:32.15malrethtext output of what?
15:32.53rw3-sennheiser is otherwise good but I've had problems with the cables
15:34.12Pkekyowell, the text output is *random flag in BG* and time left until capture etc, I also want this to tell which faction is capturing it.
15:34.13Pkekyoas the addon also has bars showing this, with blue backdrop for alliance and red backdrop for horde, I was thinking I might be able to make the text say which faction is capturing it by the color of these bars
15:34.15hastehttp://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7649/cancelledpx8.gif ;3
15:35.27Pkekyohaha, great one haste
15:35.30malrethPkekyo: do the relevant chat events for the BG give you the information necessary?
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15:36.22Pkekyosorry, but I'm a dummy when it comes to the wow LUA...
15:36.22PkekyoI guess it does though
15:36.23Trillanyone know Cilraaz?
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15:37.03Pkekyoyou mean " *randomnick* has captured bullcrapflag for The Alliance " or something like that?
15:37.08malrethwell then. register for the proper events and take action based on the message you get
15:37.12malrethyep
15:37.32Pkekyoproblem is, I'm still so fresh with this that I'm not sure on how to do this
15:38.40malrethare you using Ace2 to develop your addon?
15:39.19Sachsmalreth, he's trying to edit the Ace2 addon 'Capping'.
15:39.21trhPkekyo: that's pretty easy, load aceevent, in your OnEnable: self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_THE_CORRECT_MESSAGE_CHANNEL1", "MyMessageHAndler");
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15:39.44trhthen the function MyMessageHAndler will he called everytime a message appears on the given channel
15:39.53TrillOK what is the "ethics" for grabbing an addon like SummonFu which on WowInterface hasn't been updated since the new patch and reworking it and adding to wowace etc?
15:40.03TrillShould I ask the current author first?
15:40.22trhTrill: i'd try to
15:40.28malrethah... ok.
15:41.32malrethwell, i don't know exactly what you're trying to do so I can't really say anything more specific
15:41.40malreththe relevant BG events are at http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Battleground
15:41.44Pkekyomalreth: thanks
15:41.44Pkekyoyou too, trh, I'll try to figure that out
15:42.16malrethCHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_ALLIANCE, CHAT_MSG_BG_SYSTEM_HORDE, and UPDATE_WORLD_STATES
15:42.43malreththose are the most likely events that you're interested in
15:43.09Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
15:43.28malrethcorrect
15:43.54PkekyoI'll try to find it and figure out a solution then...thanks for the help so far
15:44.32malrethyou've also got the API functions that you can call: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Battlefield_Functions
15:44.38Pkekyo"-- - color: paintchips color" <--- should that mean anything to me?
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15:47.09Pkekyo~ArcHUD
15:47.53kenlyricthis is a completely random question, but are the colors used by mods to indicate class something blizzard uses, or just something the community has agreed on?
15:48.03Gngskblizz
15:48.10Pkekyoblizzard's decision
15:48.13Gngsk/print RAID_COLOR_CLASS
15:48.18kenlyricand have they done anything in TBC for paladins/shamans?
15:48.22Gngskyes
15:48.23Pkekyoyes
15:48.27BarDwellrhot pink !
15:48.29kenlyricwho get sto stay pink?
15:48.34Gngskpallies
15:48.37Pkekyochanged shaman to a blue-green thing, loladin is still pink
15:48.39kenlyrics/get sto/gets to/
15:48.57kenlyricoooh, fancy bot work.
15:49.00Bapspallys are officially gayer than shaman.  =)
15:49.02tlundtwo in the ping, one in the stink?
15:49.10Pkekyohaha, quoted, Baps
15:49.10kenlyricok, that's been bugging me for a while.
15:49.10Bapsthey are the blizzard pink class
15:49.17BarDwellrnew foot wear for pallys .. 5" plate stilleto's, and pvc effect plate miniskirt.
15:49.34kenlyricwell, thta will work if I play a blood elf male named "Prettiest"
15:50.00Pkekyoawesome
15:50.14PkekyoI'd die if I saw that
15:50.15malreth"Why do I gotta be Mr. Pink?"
15:50.16Bapswhich is a bit of a change for blizzard.  previously, if anything between shammy or pallys was considered "good" the pallys kept it and the shammys got shafted
15:50.43Tornhoofthe new shaman color is bad
15:50.46Tornhooflooks like mage
15:51.11Gnarfozkergoth: ping
15:51.12Bapsyeah, it needs to be tweaked a bit
15:51.28PkekyoTornhoof: the difference between shaman and mages are quite distinguished, allthough they might seem a bit similar, it's easy to tell them apart
15:51.34Bapsof course, the talent changes for shaman show that blizz wants them to be mages in chainmail
15:51.35BarDwellrcan wowace modify the colors?
15:51.40Bapsso perhaps it's appropriate
15:51.46kenlyricchainmail?
15:51.47BarDwellrvia a nice 'wowace class color configurator'
15:51.48KirkburnWow, I've had twice the visits to clearfont.co.uk so far this month than I've ever had in any month previous :O
15:51.54kenlyricoh, never mind, I was thinking of oomkin.
15:52.13Tornhoofeasy to tell apart?, ever put a shaman into a mage group? and used smaller raidframes?
15:52.25BarDwellrKirkburn: hmm.. i really should remove that link from "Hot britney spears pvc images" that goes to clearfont.co.uk ;-)
15:52.27Tornhoofthe turquise is way too much blue ;)
15:52.34malrethyou can't modify the RAID_COLOR_CLASS variable without tainting it
15:52.39KirkburnBarDwellr, lol
15:52.41malrethwhich would then taint everything that uses it
15:52.52BarDwellrmalreth: doh
15:52.54PkekyoClearFont2 looks promising :)
15:52.59kenlyricin case you wondered, http://www.ealasaid.com/misc/vsd/legolas.html  "Still the prettiest."
15:53.14KirkburnPkekyo, why thank you =)
15:53.31PkekyoI just hope you'll get it out soon, been dying to try it out the last days tbh
15:53.45KirkburnPkekyo, it *is* out ;)
15:53.51KirkburnCheck /files
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15:54.20Pkekyoit is?
15:54.25Pkekyoaaaaaaaaaawsum
15:54.31KirkburnYo, peeps! Word up! ClearFont2 is out! Use it, like!     (there we go, release annoucement ;)
15:54.44Pkekyohaha, ace
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15:55.30BarDwellrClearfont 2 is out.. we always suspected it was a little bit that way inclined.. especially when it began hanging out with the pink pally club, but we didnt wanna say anything
15:55.31Pkekyohmm...should I get closetgnome allthough I've scrapped all my tanking and resistance gear after the patch?
15:56.35BarDwellrwith a closetgnome?
15:56.50PkekyoKirkburn: should I just unzip the ClearFont2 FontPack like any other addon, or should I put it somewhere special?
15:57.02KirkburnIt's just like any other addon
15:57.28AmadeoKirkburn: You can switch fonts on the fly now?
15:57.31KirkburnVia the awesomeness of codage, it slots itself into the ClearFont2 options list :P
15:57.35KirkburnAmadeo, yes indeed
15:57.37Amadeoawesome :)
15:57.38Pkekyosweet
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15:57.52Pkekyogotta register my new gamecard now, just to check it out
15:58.00KirkburnHowever, atm some addons won't pick up the changes without a /rl, but the default UI is fine with it
15:58.38sbu~mikma
15:58.39purlmethinks mikma is an agitator but i love him anyway
15:58.59malrethinstantiating an ace addon just for a font pack seems... superfluous...
15:59.15Kirkburnmalreth, what do you want? Blood?
15:59.25malrethno... meat
15:59.39Ominoushmm how do you get tekProber and tekSupport to load?
15:59.40evlmy font addon just runs a lot of SetFont statements :D
15:59.53PkekyoKirkburn: possible to add fonts myself without any hassle?
16:00.28Mikma~me
16:00.30purlrumour has it, mikma is an agitator but i love him anyway
16:00.36CIA-1703gandharva * r21432 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - fixed Arthas' Tears (deDE)
16:00.39wafflehey. does CF2 not have an easy way to change the fonts in the WoW\Fonts folder?
16:00.45Pkekyowell, doesn't matter anyways...think Vera Sans Mono will keep me entertained for a while anyways
16:01.55malrethwell, ideally you shouldn't have to replace the wow/fonts folder... CF2 could have an interface for specifying font overrides for specific frames of specific addons
16:03.06Pkekyomeh, can't really tell who's offline or not since I installed AuldLangSyne
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16:03.47malretheven better, an interface that sets an override binding for the mouse click... you click the "change font" button, then click on the text that you want changed, CF2 picks up the frame name automagically and then adds it to the list...
16:03.51CIA-1703jah * r21431 10/branches/HealOrganizer/: Created folder remotely
16:03.55malrethbut i'm just tossing out ideas
16:04.27malrethand it'd be tough to figure out overlapping frames...
16:04.31KirkburnYou can do the WoW/Fonts folder override yourself, I don't see the point in providing for it any more. Partly because the SVN doesn't work that way, and partly because it's trivial, and not entirely neccessary
16:04.43malrethit's probably not as automagic as I'd want it to be
16:04.44waffleok
16:04.51KirkburnPkekyo, it's very easy to add new fonts
16:05.10PkekyoKirkburn: do you know anything about ClearFont2's compatability with Prat?
16:05.11KirkburnHave a look at the FontPack code, you will understand it immediately I'm sure
16:05.13vhaarrPkekyo: Heh, just turn off the name coloring, then.
16:05.14KirkburnWorks fine
16:05.31Pkekyook, I'll try that Kirkburn
16:05.44CIA-1703jah 07Jah * r21434 10HealOrganizer/: Created folder remotely
16:05.44CIA-1703jah 07Jah * r21435 10HealOrganizer/HealOrganizer/ (. HealOrganizer.lua HealOrganizer.toc):
16:05.44CIA-17branche creation (autofill by group)
16:05.44CIA-17untested
16:05.45waffleprat + namecoloring + clearfont = ?
16:05.46sylvanaarI know it makes prat look slick
16:05.57Kirkburn= win? :)
16:06.00waffle:>
16:06.02sylvanaarmethinks
16:06.02Pkekyocan't get ClearFont2 to replace the font in my chats...
16:06.05Pkekyobrb
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16:06.41malrethlater all...
16:07.07KirkburnDammit, well I was gonna say malreth had cool ideas, but implementation would be hard
16:07.26Kirkburn(for me)
16:08.18Kirkburnwaffle, good thing you reminded me, I shall add a txt file about the WoW/fonts thing later
16:09.38SoullessKirkburn: you the original clearfont author?
16:09.38waffleok, that's good.  cause i saw the lack of docu and i was kinda confused if i needed it or ont.
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16:09.54Amadeois wowwiki down, or is it just me?
16:10.19vhaarrit's both down and up, it seems.
16:10.26KirkburnSoulless, yes
16:10.37SoullessAmadeo: i think its up, but its just slow
16:10.45Amadeoargh! hehe
16:10.47vhaarrSome refreshes it does nothing, other refreshes it gives me data fast.
16:10.51KirkburnIt has slow moments due to script problems
16:11.06Soullessits halfloading pages, prob high access since servers are down
16:11.20KirkburnSoulless, yep, that's often a problem
16:11.32Amadeoplayer_enter_combat doesn't work for autoshot, so I need the event that corresponds with it
16:12.00Amadeoand it's deceiving, because combat doesnt' mean +/- combat, it means if you're attacking or not
16:12.34KirkburnI'm off home now ... see you in several hours!
16:12.36vhaarrAmadeo: PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT is a melee event only.
16:12.50KirkburnRedirect all ClearFont questions to, er ... that guy over there!
16:12.53vhaarrAmadeo: You want PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED.
16:13.00vhaarrlol
16:13.03vhaarro/
16:13.13KirkburnBall rolling up hill?
16:13.24vhaarrKirkburn: It's a head and an arm, waving
16:13.31Kirkburn\o
16:13.32vhaarrKirkburn: Like \o/ now he's cheering.
16:13.37vhaarr"yay"
16:13.48Amadeovhaarr: regen disabled? that sounds strange
16:13.52Kirkburnkenlyric has "issues"
16:14.04vhaarrAmadeo: Strange as it might sound, you know I'm right.
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16:14.11kenlyricthat's the what the police called it.
16:14.14grzesieqHmm, what was the name of the aguf-styled enemy castbar mod?
16:14.37vhaarrmEnemyCastbars or something?
16:15.09Amadeovhaarr: I don't want +/- combat though, I want the +/- attack equivalent to PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT :)
16:15.17KirkburnSee ya'll
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16:15.33vhaarrAmadeo: ah, then. For gun fire?
16:15.40Amadeoyah
16:15.51vhaarrAmadeo: You'll have to use the UNIT_SPELLCAST events, then.
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16:16.10Amadeothis is getting more complicated than I had hoped!
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16:17.51Dekunamorning all
16:18.10Trillmorning
16:18.19Xueriano/
16:18.36Dekuna~hypnotoad
16:18.38purlAll glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP.
16:18.45GandharvaI will do some rework for the icons in Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Herbalism. Remove black background and so and then upload it. Any doubts?
16:19.34GandharvaTested it with Khorium and it looks much better.
16:20.27Soullessok, i have a casting bar that shows the icon of the spell i'm casting next to it
16:20.40Soullessbut some "spells" don't have icons proper
16:20.48Soullesslike open chest, or av flags etc
16:20.54Soullesshow do i hide that icon
16:21.02Azurewrathmhm.. sometimers i love the chinafarmers.. just sold a Golden Rod for 30g.
16:21.09Azurewrath-r
16:21.23Soullessmoreover, does anybody know the texture name of the face of that guy
16:21.40vhaarrSoulless: Wrap it in |if BS:GetSpellIcon(...) then|
16:22.06Soullesswhats ... mean?
16:22.25Soullessbut i will play around with it
16:23.04Dekunahttp://youtube.com/watch?v=S-5grqhj1b8 <--- why SNL is king
16:23.25Soullessi get the info from UnitCastingInfo(this.unit)
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16:25.02Pkekyokirkburn still around?
16:25.50XuerianSoulless: "..." is a quick psudo-representation the spell name you're trying to get the icon for, if I'm guessing right :p
16:26.00Xuerians/the/of the/
16:26.17Soullessaight
16:26.17Pkekyomeh, this lua stuff confuses me -_-
16:26.28SoullessPkekyo: he left
16:26.48Pkekyook, but I'm still frickin confused ^^
16:26.54kergothGnarfoz: pong
16:27.09XuerianKoffy yet Cergoth? :P
16:27.17Gnarfoz~coffee kergoth
16:27.18purlACTION steals some of Baraius-Phone's special coffee and gives it to kergoth on a silver platter.
16:27.30XuerianAw. Isn't she cute.
16:27.38Xuerian~pet purl
16:27.40purlACTION reaches over and pets purl on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"
16:28.08XuerianKeep it up purl. Eventually the pink pythons won't chase you anymore.
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16:29.34Gnarfozkergoth: I (re-)created all the herb graphics used by Cartographer_Herbalism in 'Gatherer style', that is, freed from their button-esque look as alpha-transparent TGAs - looks a lot better than the default icons IMHO. would you like to integrate/replace them in C_H? (screenie: http://i12.tinypic.com/30agtqv.jpg )
16:29.58AmadeoI'm sick of "image verification" on forums and shit these days
16:30.06Amadeohalf the time *I* can't even read the letters
16:30.06Gnarfoz(could have used Gatherer's, but those are only 16x16, they start to look blurry even if resized to 32x32)
16:30.13Soullessi had a mod before that would change the icons when i went to my world map to numbers (which were group numbers) colored by class
16:30.17GnarfozAmadeo: captcha's are fun ;P
16:30.22Soullesswhat mod was that? cartographer?
16:30.27axxoSoulless: carto could do it yeah
16:30.27kergothGnarfoz: ah nice.. hmmm
16:31.04kenlyrichalf the time?
16:31.19kenlyricI can never read those image verification things... what the fuck is with using a lower case "l"?
16:31.26GnarfozI was already trying to make it some kind of optional mod (like... C_H_HQ or something), but I fail at getting that to work in any reasonable way that does not include modifying C_H's files
16:31.32kenlyricat least use letters that don't look exactly like numbers.
16:32.06kergothGnarfoz: i wonder what the difference is in ram usage.. wouldnt think itd be too bad
16:32.39Gnarfozi can tell you the file size of all the TGAs, don't know how that compares to wow uncompressing it's own BLPs, tho
16:33.11GnarfozBLPs have mip levels, DXT compressed stuff and whatnot, I wouldn't think they'd be a lot smaller in decompressed in memory than 32bit tgas
16:34.29Gnarfozby the way, "Ancient Lichen" is the only one missing, wowImage does not properly convert it to PNG (every other line is just white, either damaged or some new BLP format feature wowImage does not know to handle)
16:35.02kergothGnarfoz: its too bad we cant set the alpha channel, just have it use the black in the blp as it or something, though i guess that could still have issues with black in the icon proper
16:35.52GnarfozI don't think I'm getting you ;) - you mean with Blizzards icons?
16:36.03kergothyep
16:36.03Prophy"MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- A priest whom former Rep. Mark Foley reportedly accused of molestation almost four decades ago said Thursday that he fondled the lawmaker as a teen, but the priest said it wasn't abuse because Foley "seemed to like it.""
16:36.26kergothah well
16:36.55Gnarfozyeah, guess that's why Gatherer did it with TGAs, too, the Blizzard ones are most likely not very well suited for the purpose
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16:38.09BarDwellrProphy: how do you get a num pregnant... dress her up as an altar boy!
16:38.29BarDwellrs/num/nun
16:38.41Xuerian|if not bag then self:TriggerEvent("SPECIAL_WTF", "No bag!") return end| ... tehe.
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16:45.10CIA-1703neriak * r21437 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (8 files): FuBar_MoneyFu: changed HONOR_THISWEEK globalstring to a locale, because it isn't any longer supported by the game client
16:45.54Xuerianckknight_: I take it you're the one that made Roster-2.1 radiate so much clean-code voodoo I can't sink my teeth into it? :P
16:46.15XuerianOr just the caching <.<...
16:46.37Xuerianblah
16:46.58BarbanusThe only thing better than coffee in the morning is coffee with eggnog in it .. the only thing better than that is ... coffee, eggnog, and a shot of rhum in the morning :P
16:47.24trhBaraius: um.. what about a bj? :)
16:47.30trher.. Barbanus
16:47.35Barbanuslol
16:47.38XuerianYou offering, trh?
16:47.42trhnope :)
16:47.48XuerianBah
16:47.49Gnarfozkergoth: they are here, if you want to use them: http://zakuria.de/~smallbrain/C_H_with_TGAs.zip (with a rev. 21245 C_H with modified path= lines; read: working)
16:47.53Fisker-does grennon still exist? :P
16:47.57Barbanuswow, that went downhill in a hurry :P
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16:49.14kergothGnarfoz: okay, thanks much, i'll poke at it when i get home from work tonight
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16:49.35Gnarfozok :)
16:49.46trhdamn.. i hate acedb2 - i don't find a way to represent my old db-structure ("self.db.realmname.<playername>" and if it exists additional attributes after <playername>)
16:49.57GnarfozI'll go leveling (and gathering herbs :P) now ^^ got some levels to push before BC release
16:50.26kergothhehe
16:50.55kergothi need to get my beta rogue to 70, and need to pvp my ass off on normal :|
16:50.58kergothnot enough time in the day
16:52.45Gnarfozindeed, WTB 72 hour days
16:52.46Gnarfoz:D
16:52.55Elkanotrh: self.db.char ? self.db.realm.<player>?  self.db.account.<relam>.<player>? the latter two if you want to acces other player's data
16:53.04trhElkano: the problem is the <player>
16:53.39trhElkano: you'll get a error message - the workaround i tried with self.db.realm.player[<playername>] isn't a good approach
16:53.52trhbecaus i cant check for existance of it nicely
16:54.05Elkanowhy? self.db.realm[UnitName("player")]
16:54.51trhumm.. never tried that..
16:55.31Elkanoif you player is named eg Ulf this will result in self.db.realm["Ulf"] which is equal to self.db.realm.Ulf
16:56.13Elkanobut maybe you want to cache UnitName("player") in a local variable since it wont change after login ^^
16:56.41trhwell it's for a koslist =)
16:56.51trhso it isn't unitname(player) anyway ;)
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16:57.53Pkekyoanyone familiar with customizing ag_unitframes here?
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16:59.16Pkekyowondering if it's possible to show health in this format using aguf:
16:59.16PkekyoPercantage                  Current HP                  Total HP
16:59.16Pkekyoanyone know how?
16:59.29kergothfuck, i cant find a script i need :|
16:59.43axxokergoth: its on the left, across the street
16:59.48kergoththanks!
16:59.49kergoth:P
17:00.03axxonp :)
17:00.05kergothit was in an old svn of my addon set, i wiped that repo when i restructured, dont think i ever readded it to the new version :(
17:00.18Elkanook, in that case, self.db.realm is the correct place to store data, but I'd doo so in a subtable so you would en up with self.db.realm.player[<player>], where <player> is the name as string, eg "Ulf". To check for existance of eg a player stored in kosplayer simply do: if self.db.realm.player[kosplayer] then
17:00.37kergothwas a python script that parsed .toc metadata of my addon set, breaking the set up into logical chunks (raid, etc) and zipping up addons into those groups, dumping readmes of addon name, description, and slash command from the .tocs..
17:00.44axxokergoth: restore a backup (i always get killed for suggesting this for some reason)
17:00.45Elkanothe datafield behind that place can hold any data, eg a table with lastseen, times killed, ...
17:00.47kergothi hate rewriting things unnecessarily :|
17:01.08kergothaxxo: personal code, my only backups are old revisions in svn :P
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17:01.43axxo:-)
17:01.53trhElkano: the actual place i use is self.db.realm.koslist.players - then if a player exists, i want self.db.realm.koslist.players.<playername> and in that .level, .reason, .whatever
17:04.10kergothgod i love the IE Tab firefox plugin
17:04.34trhkergoth: try noscript and adblock :)
17:04.49kergothuse them both :)
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17:05.19trhkergoth: web developer toolbar is also great if you develop websites :)
17:06.05vhaarrkergoth: firebug.com
17:06.11trhElkano: seems to works now :)
17:06.18trhElkano thanks
17:06.22vhaarrerr
17:06.26vhaarrkergoth: getfirebug.com
17:06.41kergothhttp://covenant.kergoth.com/ffplugins.html is my current setup (infolister ftw)
17:07.03yacoobfirebug is great.
17:07.10kergothhave noscript disabled atm, need to re enabled it
17:07.15Elkanotrh, well, if you add a player to kos (kosname, koslevel, kosreason var storing data), simply do (...)koslist.player[kosname] = {level = koslevel, reason = kosreason, (...)}
17:07.18yacoobif you're doing any web developement, that is
17:07.19pastamancerfirebug makes me wet
17:07.37kergothhuh, firebug looks nice
17:07.37Elkanoand if you want to remove him, do (...)koslist.player[kosname] = nil
17:07.45CIA-1703sano * r21438 10LoggerHead/Loggerhead.toc: LoggerHead: Added .toc keywords
17:07.48kergothi need to try that extension that uses vim for text boxes in forms :D
17:07.50yacoobkergoth, IEtab + firefox = decent memory leakage, if I recall corectly
17:07.58vhaarrI wouldn't paste it if it was crap :P
17:08.00yacoobbah s/firefox/fasterfox/
17:08.05trhElkano: ya, i tried to use default values, but that made every player listed, so i just removed it, and its fine :)
17:08.46yacoobkergoth, if you want I can look up the page about that
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17:09.15kergothif you have it handy thatd be nice, but dont waste a ton of time looking for it
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17:09.55XuerianAlright, I'm writing up a loot events lib, should I bother Tekkub about getting it into SEE or just do my own ? :P
17:10.18vhaarrXuerian: SpecialEvents-Loot ?
17:10.24yacoobkergoth, I'll summon some del.icio.us for that :D
17:10.25kergothi'd pester tek, i'm sure he'd be fine with it
17:10.28kergothyacoob: :)
17:10.29Xuerianvhaarr: Does that exist? >.>
17:10.30vhaarrindeed
17:10.35kergothgod the del.icio.us bookmarks plugin is god
17:10.37vhaarrXuerian: No, but I think it's a good idea.
17:10.43kergothusing it sucked before that :P
17:10.53XuerianPestering tek it is. :3
17:10.58XuerianOOooh Tekkub....
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17:12.34yacoobkergoth, http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/04/04/reducing-your-memory-usage-in-firefox/
17:12.56yacoobkergoth, and what is your del.icio.us username, if you don't mind? :)
17:13.19yacoobkergoth, and my memory tricked me, it's ietab itself, and fliterset.g+flashgot
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17:15.38Ominousis there a tablet remove line command?
17:15.54vhaarrOminous: You have to :AddLine on every refresh.
17:15.57vhaarrSo there's no need for it.
17:16.06KemayoDarn, vhaarr beat me to it.
17:18.24KemayoCan anyone think of a function that isn't protected, and lets you know something about nearby mobs by name?
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17:19.01vhaarrKemayo: The combat log :)
17:19.03TemKemayo, UnitName is not protected
17:19.20Temalso, you could scan the nameplates for names
17:19.33Tembut the user has to have them enabled for that to be of any use
17:19.47vhaarrThe nameplates are available to enumerate?
17:19.52vhaarrwow, I had no idea.
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17:20.33XuerianThe nameplates are available to manipulate o_0
17:20.46Temvhaarr, they are unnamed children of the WorldFrame
17:20.49XuerianSomeone wrote a addon to use them as a nearby-unit monitor with little crosshairs and such
17:20.54Temthey move by magic
17:20.55vhaarrTem: interesting
17:21.14Pkekyoholy jumping fucking jesus
17:21.14PkekyoHonorfu is more than 2.7k honor off according to blizz
17:22.05Pkekyoa tad excessive maybe?
17:22.18kergothXuerian: that addon looked neat, ever try it?  i never did
17:22.21cncfanaticsckknight
17:22.55Xueriankergoth: Never did try it myself either. I was in one of those tunnel-vision-coding months. :p
17:23.26cncfanaticsckknight, ping :)
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17:24.00XuerianI suspect it might be a little less useful now without the ability to click on them, but interesting nonetheless
17:24.32Fisker-seriously stupid idiots :(
17:24.42Fisker-lost all the mood i had to play wow
17:24.45cncfanatics~seen ckknight
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17:25.14Fisker-some hunter reset vanndar on 20%
17:25.14vhaarrWho's Vanndar?
17:25.14cncfanaticsdamn, where is purl ?
17:25.14toddmaintanence ftl
17:25.28cncfanaticsargh, why do I miss him by 6 mins :(
17:25.31Fisker-the AV general
17:25.35Fisker-alliance side
17:25.50Fisker-we were on vanndar and the alliance were on drek'thar
17:25.52vhaarrah
17:25.58ckknightcncfanatics, what?
17:26.00Fisker-at 20% the hunter pulls agro and resets
17:26.09Fisker-2 minutes after alliance wins
17:26.24cncfanaticsgot some question about dewdrop, might be a bug
17:26.28ckknightbusy
17:26.36AmadeoWAU keeps freezing up on ClearFont2
17:26.47cncfanaticsdamn, well, just tell me when u got time i guess, ckknight
17:27.13vhaarrcncfanatics: Or you could just ask in the off chance that someone else can answer your question.
17:27.35cncfanaticswhy does dewdrop check the get value if a toggle, text or whatever is disabled
17:27.48cncfanaticskills me cuz I have to do sanity checks both on get and disable cuz of that
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17:29.44kergothooh the aging tabs ff extension rocks
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17:30.01markvsanta is a cylon, i have proof
17:30.08Temkergoth, aging tab?
17:30.14Amadeofrack
17:30.21markvhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRN1gpPHZXU that is your proof
17:30.29vhaarrcncfanatics: For a toggle, it has to do a get to see if the toggle mark should be set or not.
17:30.33kergothTem: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3542/
17:30.46cncfanaticswell, vhaarr, it shouldn't if disable is set to true
17:30.49kergothhttps://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3542/previews/
17:30.50cncfanaticscuz it won't check it anyway :p
17:30.54cncfanaticsas the toggle is disabled
17:30.55kergoththe top picture in that image is the default scheme
17:30.58vhaarrcncfanatics: Sure it will, based on the default setting.
17:31.03kergothgreatly increases visibility of hte current tab
17:31.06Temhmm
17:31.08kergothand fades out tabs you havent used in a while
17:31.10vhaarrcncfanatics: Disabled just means you can't toggle it. It still has a default.
17:31.12evlWhat's the quickest way to check if a key exists in a table?
17:31.14TemI haven't updated to 2.0 yet
17:31.18Temshould I?
17:31.23kergothyep :)
17:31.47cncfanaticsdamn, ur right :p
17:31.50CIA-1703ominous * r21439 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: -fix for dewdrop and deleting modules
17:32.09vhaarrevl: if tbl[key] then will check that it's non-nil.
17:32.15evlvhaarr: thanks
17:32.40pastamancerI think I fixed [code][/code] for firefox on the forums
17:32.53cncfanaticsvhaarr, tnx :)
17:32.54vhaarrpastamancer: yay, thanks.
17:32.58vhaarrcncfanatics: yw
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17:34.07pastamancerps. firebug is very sexy
17:34.13vhaarrindeed
17:34.24vhaarryou didn't know about it?
17:34.34pastamancerI never bothered installing it until today
17:34.36vhaarrit's fairly new
17:34.37vhaarrright
17:34.40vhaarrit rocks
17:34.47pastamancerfound and fixed the css problem with [code] real quick
17:34.48CIA-1703neriak * r21440 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_BidWatch.lua): Fence: fixed BidWatch toggle
17:35.01pastamancerwere there any other firefox css problems?
17:35.10vhaarrOn the forums? No.
17:35.16vhaarrThere are javascript problems, though.
17:35.26pastamanceryeah, those are next on the list
17:35.32vhaarrPeople who write javascript usually suck at it.
17:35.42pastamancermuch like php
17:35.45vhaarryep
17:35.46KemayoTem: UnitName wouldn't do what I want, I think.  Unless UnitName("Defias Pillager") returns something meaningful.
17:35.49axxothats because nobody sane would use javascript
17:35.53vhaarrI have extensive experience if you need any help, pasta.
17:35.55axxoexcept the google nerds
17:35.58vhaarrBut you'll figure it out.
17:36.04TemKemayo, UnitName returns a unit's name
17:36.13Tempassing it a unit's name would have no meaning
17:36.18Fisker-i thought javascript would be the new coke!
17:36.19vhaarrKemayo: You need a unit id.
17:36.20KemayoThat was my thought.
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17:36.36pastamancerwell, I'm going to fix mark all read and the go to new post links first
17:36.41NeriakPeACE! :P
17:37.03KemayoI'm just sad, for my rare-tracking mod is less useful now.
17:37.26vhaarrKemayo: Didn't you hear? You can enumerate the name plates.
17:37.47vhaarrIt can even tell you if the mob is dead or not based on the color.
17:38.06Kemayovhaarr: Yeah... but doesn't that rely on the nameplates being enabled?
17:38.26vhaarrKemayo: Of course it doesn, but that's 90% better than the alternative, which is no functionality at all.
17:38.31vhaarrs/doesn/does/
17:38.32KemayoWell, true.
17:38.57beerkeace.pastey.net is down
17:39.03beerkeany other place i can post code ?
17:39.04KemayoHmm.  I wonder if the function to toggle the nameplates on and off is protected...
17:39.04CIA-1703pb_ee1 * r21441 10Percent/Percent.lua: Percent: Removed an UnregisterEvent() call that was causing an error.
17:39.09vhaarr!google pastebin
17:39.13GoogleSearchpastebin - collaborative debugging tool ( http://pastebin.com/ )
17:39.30GoogleSearchHehe :D
17:39.33CIA-1703grayhoof * r21442 10sct/sct.lua: sct: Fixed damage font issue caused by lib changes
17:39.41CIA-1703elkano * r21443 10ColaLight/Core.lua:
17:39.41CIA-17ColaLight
17:39.41CIA-17- fixed possible nil bug in line 129 if the item was just obtained from server
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17:40.31Elkano~seen wobin
17:41.20purlwobin <i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1h 54m 16s ago, saying: 'night =)'.
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17:41.20beerkehmmm pastebin gives me errors as well when trying to submit code ...
17:41.25KemayoOkay, this may be horribly hacky.  But I'm thinking that unless the nameplates are there all the time but hidden, I can enable them, scan them, then hide them again.
17:41.41vhaarrKemayo: Wow, that is hacky indeed. And cool.
17:41.51vhaarrbeerke: Maybe you should search google for "pastebin", it was a freaking hint.
17:42.07vhaarrThere are hundreds of pastebins around.
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17:42.59KemayoI just need to track down the details of reading the nameplates.  Anyone know what that addon that was mentioned that uses them as a nearby unit-monitor is called?
17:43.08beerke...
17:43.44CIA-1703jah 07Jah * r21444 10HealOrganizer/HealOrganizer/HealOrganizer.lua: HealOrganizer (branche Jah) : thinking of something to do about innervates
17:43.46Kemayo(Could I work it out on my own?  Sure.  Would I rather just read someone else's implementation first?  Hell yeah!)
17:44.19Hockhahaa.
17:44.21Hockhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA
17:44.26Hock(NSFW)
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17:45.59xgravixrofl
17:46.20vhaarrSomeone pasted that like 2 hours ago :/
17:46.28pastamancerok, new post link in recent unread topics page should work now
17:46.46trhpretty hard to understand for a non-native-speaker :(
17:46.51trhneed subtitles ;)
17:47.43beerkeanyways, i am trying to make a scrollable frame based on FauxScrollFrameTemplate, http://pastebin.ca/285200 . Problem is that the frames added to the scrollframe go out of the scrollframe and it does not create a scrollable frame.
17:48.13beerkelemme see if i can dump a SS
17:48.44KemayoOkay, I think I've found the addon tem was talking about.
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17:48.56TemI was talking about an addon?
17:49.05KemayoThe nameplate thing.
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17:49.42Prophywhats the difference from RoguetimerFU and Roguestuntimerfu ?
17:50.00hugohello pastamancer can i have quick q about grid ? :)
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17:50.49beerkeaa here i got a ss http://www.xs4all.nl/~simenon/scrollframe.jpg
17:51.01beerkeAnyone can see what i am doing wrong ?
17:51.21Zodiacis it true that Casting Bar replacement addons causes a slight lag when you attempt to interupt a cast?
17:52.00a-juror-catZodiac: i don't see why they would
17:52.05Zodiacok
17:52.20cncfanaticsis there a method to check if a table is a valid AceOO object
17:52.20ZodiacI'll try to install oCB then ;)
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17:54.09TemKemayo, I wasn't talking about an addon at all
17:54.22TemI was just saying that the nameplates are unamed children of the worldframe
17:54.28vhaarrSomeone else was.
17:54.47vhaarrSaid something about an addon trying to provide proximity alerts based on name plates.
17:55.04a-juror-catthat'd be interesting
17:55.12a-juror-catif only you could access those nameplates ;(
17:55.19vhaarrheh
17:55.34KemayoAh, right.  Xuerian said it!
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17:56.03vhaarra-juror-cat: Maybe you should read what has been said before jumping in. That's the whole point - you CAN access them.
17:56.24a-juror-catmaybe i wasn't here then :(
17:56.40a-juror-catapologies
17:57.06a-juror-cathow, by the way?
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17:57.30vhaarrThat was said at 18:52, were you not here then?
17:57.39vhaarrIt's like 3 minutes ago in my time zone.
17:57.43a-juror-cati was not
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17:58.00vhaarr<Tem> I was just saying that the nameplates are unamed children of the worldframe
17:58.01a-juror-catat least, if i was, i had hit backspace without this java irc client being in focus
17:58.04a-juror-catand its gone
18:00.21Elkanocncfanatics, maybe some inheritage check?
18:00.32Barbanuswowwiki is slooooow for me :(
18:01.35Sarozpastamancer, the "???" krKR translation?
18:02.20pastamancerSaroz: get a browser that supports unicode :p
18:02.27Sarozfirefox
18:02.41pastamancerit shows up as korean glyphs for me
18:02.45Sarozhrm
18:02.59pastamancerjust grab it from grid's locale files
18:03.25vhaarrRemember that Firefox has to guess the encoding.
18:03.28CIA-1703dafire * r21445 10Omnibus/Omnibus.toc: Omnibus: updated toc. noticed no problems in 2.0
18:03.28CIA-1703saroz * r21446 10sRaidFrames/localization.deDE.lua: sRaidFrames: deDE translation, ftw!
18:03.29KemayoIn the new lua order, #tableName would return the number of items in tableName, right?
18:03.36Temkergoth, how does this aging thing work?
18:03.38vhaarrWhich is why unescaped locales get fucked up some times.
18:03.45Temkergoth, it doesn't seem to be aging any of my tabs
18:03.50vhaarrKemayo: Only in the cases where table.getn used to.
18:04.25CIA-1703saroz * r21447 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Add deDE to .toc
18:04.36KemayoOkay.
18:06.07kergothTem: by default it ages tabs each time you switch tabs
18:06.16kergothso as you're moving between tabs, ones you ahvent clicked on recently will fade
18:06.20kergothyou can change it to be time based though
18:06.20Temmayhaps I have something conflicting with it
18:06.23kergothits in the options
18:06.26kergothits affected by theme
18:06.26pastamancerugh, these SMF theme files make me want to gouge my eyes out
18:06.29kergothyou have to run a compatible one
18:06.31kergothso make sure you are
18:06.34TemI'm using the default theme
18:06.48TemTab Mix Plus, perhaps?
18:08.38kergothi'm using tab mix plus too
18:08.40kergothhttp://covenant.kergoth.com/images/tabaging.jpg
18:08.53kergothnote how the first tab is the most faded, followed by the 4th, while 2nd and third are most bright
18:08.55CIA-1703rabbit * r21448 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua LoadOnDemand.lua): BigWigs: Better at removing the "Load All" menu item when it's no longer needed.
18:09.03kergoth2nd and 3rd i clicked on most, switching back and forth quickly to show the behavior
18:09.21Saroz<3 new bigwigs menu
18:09.50vhaarrSaroz: I moved the FBP options to its own submenu as well, like that?
18:10.05Sarozlet me update
18:10.48vhaarrIf anyone running a German/French whatever WoW could update BW and try the menus, that'd be great.
18:10.55Sarozyes
18:10.59SarozI like that, it's nice
18:11.03vhaarryay
18:11.05Sarozbut you should rename the item
18:11.17Saroz"fuBar menu"
18:11.20Sarozor something
18:11.29vhaarrI know "or something", but not FuBar.
18:11.38vhaarrEssentially, they are menu options.
18:11.41Sarozhrmm
18:12.07SarozMenu options
18:12.10Sarozmeh
18:12.12Sarozdunno
18:13.26Sarozperfecttargets suck so much memory
18:13.29Sarozit's not even funny
18:14.47waffleUS servers up
18:14.55wafflesome of them, at least
18:15.21Temkergoth, *boggle* the only feature that appears to work for me is highlighting the current tab
18:15.34CIA-1703jerry * r21449 10ItemBonusLib/ (ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua ItemBonusLib.toc):
18:15.34CIA-17ItemBonusLib:
18:15.34CIA-17_ Slight change to the debugging API.
18:15.35CIA-17_ Corrected a few french patterns.
18:15.35CIA-17_ Added and fixed some german patterns, thanks to Rashkaldo
18:15.40kergoththats screwed up
18:15.41kergothhmm
18:16.38wafflemy chatbox fonts seem to use my wow\fonts files, and not clearfont 2's setting. :|
18:16.43wafflei use prat, if that matters.
18:16.55kergothstill works here...
18:17.06kergothare you clicking enough? its fairly subtle at first, a nice gradual change
18:17.21Temweird
18:17.26TemI got it now
18:17.42[dRaCo]Hey Saroz, the new update method you implemented into sRaidFrames sometimes doesn't update till a new player joins the raid
18:17.45Temso, it ages the tabs that aren't my current tab
18:18.02waffleoh, aging tabs? i use it. it rules :>
18:18.06Temok yeah, this is pretty cool
18:18.08vhaarrhttps://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3810/ is a very nice tab addon as well.
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18:18.34vhaarrAfter a while using it, you just "get it" without noticing and using FF without it becomes tedious.
18:19.06kergothvhaarr: interesting
18:19.08kergothhmm
18:19.17TemI need to think of better colors for it
18:19.26vhaarryou don't configure anything
18:19.29kergothi usually use foxpose when i need to find an old tab
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18:20.08AmadeoMiniPerfsFu doesn't work :(
18:20.10waffleI use #FFF aging to #000
18:20.16Amadeowell, it works...just doesn't update
18:20.18vhaarrAmadeo: Works fine here.
18:20.40Amadeovhaarr: It doesn't update for me...when I log in, says 1000fps, etc...if I change text back and forth from short to normal, it'll update once, and stay that way
18:20.44Gandharva_what do you think? http://www.directupload.net/images/061219/4V2huuxv.jpg
18:21.08vhaarrAmadeo: hm, okay, let me take a look.
18:21.17Amadeovhaarr: Sweet, thanks :)
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18:26.21CIA-1703kemayo * r21450 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: *Commented out* version of nameplate scanning. Because *holy crap* could this be broken.
18:26.23KemayoI look forward to getting home so I can find out whether or not that works. :D
18:28.44pastamancerah, fixed the header of nested quotes
18:28.51KemayoThank you, Tem, for revealing this possibility.
18:28.57CIA-1703rabbit * r21451 10FuBar_MiniPerfsFu/MiniPerfsFu.lua: FuBar_MiniPerfsFu: Should fix the framerate getting stuck at 1000.
18:29.47Amadeochecking it out :)
18:30.03waffleanyone use kenergy successfully?
18:30.49Amadeowaffle: I was going to use kEnergy, but it only got a 1 on WoWI
18:30.57CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21452 10Prat/modules/ChatLog.lua: Prat: missed one
18:31.10waffleseems broken
18:32.15hasteAmadeo: and I guess it has one vote only also?
18:32.16kenlyriccool... informant thinks I can sell this mystery meat for 16g a piece.
18:33.01MikmaKemayo: does it work now without errors? ;)
18:33.01Amadeohaste: last I looked, haha, I just remember kergoth complaining about it so I had to tease him
18:33.28KemayoMikma: It will work without errors, for absolutely eveything I changed is commented out! :D
18:33.30Mikmahaste: LOLOLOO U SUXX!!!
18:33.32AmadeoI don't have a Rogue right now, so I don't have a use for any energy addons...though when TBC is out and I make my sexy BE, I'll probably use it :)
18:33.33hasteAmadeo: It's always like that, first vote is always 1... no idea why :D
18:33.45wafflewoah, does the new cart. show group members that have aggro on the map? that RULES!
18:34.00MikmaKemayo: silverdragon gave me error when i tried it with 2.0 :P i mouseovered the rare in BRM and it whined about the cart plugin
18:34.09Amadeohaste: Strange...my personal biggest gripe about WoWI is it has the absolute worst search system
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18:34.34KemayoThat should be working now.
18:34.49Mikmayou think so or you know so?
18:35.48KemayoI do not get the bugs.  Ergo, it works.
18:35.52pastamancerhmm, did I just break the forums?
18:36.52KemayoBut yeah, I've  seen rares recently without problems.  And I recall fixing the Cartographer integration, because ckknight changed the setnote api.
18:37.17GnarfozGandharva_: what does that screenshot show? ^^
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18:37.57Gandharva_new Cartographer_mining icons
18:38.01kergothwow, google has multiple stop directions now?
18:38.01kergothkickass
18:38.17Gnarfozlol
18:38.25Gnarfozkergoth: *points at Gandharva_*
18:38.52DwellrXuerian: evenin dude ! how long till I can resync xloot group without losing my antininja mode ? ;-)
18:38.53GnarfozGandharva_: I just did that for _Herbalism ^^ http://i12.tinypic.com/30agtqv.jpg
18:39.05kergothhahah, nice
18:39.11hillbillyok hope this isnt to noob, been playing WoW for a month stock UI and now been playing with differnet compiles, I'll try this one tonight afterwork. My question,  is it possible to save bar layouts for each of my charactors, that is, warrior/warlock/priest ?
18:39.32Gandharva_hehe, fine
18:39.32vhaarrwith Bartender3, it should be
18:39.43XuerianDwellr: Well, I was going to work on things this morning, but the server was down :P. Playing nwn at the moment, hopefully today, or thursday. Either way, it'll be in the next update :p
18:40.02hillbillyk bartender 3 is what i was looking at on the wowace page
18:40.04DwellrXuerian: damn.. if ur playing nwn.. ur lost to the world.. oh noes ;-)
18:40.17Amadeovhaarr: It's working now, thank you :)
18:40.25Gandharva_I will put them into a directory "Artwork" and upload them later today
18:40.27hillbillyactually its bartend2
18:41.05hillbillythis bartender talk made me thirsty
18:41.21Dwellrmmm acai berry smoothie
18:41.29Mikmahmm cola
18:41.53Dwellrgot me a nice chicago town 5 cheese pizza cooking away =)
18:42.18AmadeoOh yeah? Name all the cheeses!
18:42.31Dwellrall? or just the ones on the pizza?
18:42.40AmadeoAll, in the entire world
18:42.41Necrathexdoes aguf support blizz enemy casting bar?
18:42.44Amadeo...on the pizza :P
18:42.57pastamancerapplaud and smite are working again
18:43.18KemayoNecrathex: Use mEnemyCastbar.  It works with agUF.
18:43.26Hjaltenecrathex: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5488-mEnemyCastbar.html
18:43.26Hockanyone here on Scilla?
18:43.27AmadeoMenemy!
18:43.42Dwellri=world.getCheeses().iterator(); while(i.hasNext()){ out.println(i) }
18:43.54Amadeohehe
18:43.58kenlyricwhen your enemy is a mangina...
18:44.17kergothsomeone should do a new ups/fedex packaging tracking with google maps dealy, using tehe new multihop directions stuff
18:44.37GnarfozI guess someone will, rather sooner than later
18:44.37Gnarfoz;>
18:44.41hillbillycan I ad mods that are not listed in the downloader?
18:45.08Amadeokergoth: I'm afraid of Google Maps
18:45.16DwellrAmadeo: otherwise.. mozarella, monterey jack, medium cheddar, emmental, and 'medium fat soft cheese'
18:45.26CIA-1703weab * r21453 10Automaton/modules/ (AutoDismount.lua AutoRepair.lua): Automaton: AutoRepair: Insult the user if they're pathetic and too poor to repair; AutoDismount: Fix weird bug with dismounting when the player has debuffs
18:45.30kergothi love it, but sometimes their data is out of date :(
18:45.36kergothend up going to stores that dont exist and shit
18:45.38Amadeokergoth: Remember the aliens? :(
18:45.42kergothhehe
18:45.51Amadeodid they ever figure out what that was?
18:46.01Dwellrreal aliens probly
18:46.09Necrathexthanks Kemayo, Hjalte
18:46.27AmadeoDwellr: You never know! They just found (probably) water on Mars!
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18:47.03Dwellrmmmm mars.. the snack you can eat between meals..
18:47.17Dwellrclass action anyone ? ;-)
18:47.17AmadeoYou're from the UK aren't you?
18:47.21Dwellrindeed
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18:47.27AmadeoI bet you fry them!
18:47.33CIA-1703saroz * r21454 10sRaidFrames/ (libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc):
18:47.33CIA-17sRaidFrames:
18:47.33CIA-17- Converted more to Roster, fixes a ton of update problems
18:47.33CIA-17- Converted some functions to Special-Event-Aura
18:47.33CIA-17- Introduction of a priority system for background and border colors - more to come
18:47.33CIA-17It's all pretty stable :)
18:48.42Dwellrlol.. ok.. yes, Im damn sure that'd taste lovely, but the fact that a) i play wow, and b) have enough intelligence to code lua, and c) I'm able to be here in this channel typing, rather than being in hospital awaiting my heart bypass, should be a fairly decent indicator that not everyone in the uk eats deep fried marsbars regularly.
18:49.05AmadeoDwellr: Well that sucks, I know I'd eat them if I could buy them!
18:49.21Dwellru'd probably like my ultimate toasted sandwich =)
18:49.27Amadeohaha
18:49.32AmadeoAre you Jamie Oliver?
18:49.37trhdeep fried marsbars.. that sounds tasty ;)
18:49.37Mikmahehe
18:49.39Drelazok noob question people but i can't look it up since the wow API is down for me, i'm trying the WelcomeHome tutorial but it seems that the event ZONE_CHANGED() isnt being triggered when i enter Ogrimmar. Is this correct?
18:50.14Drelazworks fine when i enter Durotar from Orgrimmar
18:51.01trhDrelaz: it doesn't work when you enter orgrimmar, but it works when you do from durotar?
18:51.19Dwellramadeo: melt butter & sugar in a pan, soak the bread in it.. remove bread, allow to cool, then spread bread with butter on outsides, and inside put 75% cocoa solids dark chocolate & nutella, add some sliced banana, and a little brown sugar.. & golden syrup... cook until golden, serve drizzled with cream =)
18:51.31Drelazthats correct trh
18:51.49kenlyricwhat's the point of the bread in that dish?
18:52.04xgravixi'll take 5
18:52.05Dwellrumm.. stops the goopy calories from rolling off the plate before u can eat em
18:52.06kenlyricjust so you can claim it comes from one of the food groups?
18:52.11CIA-1703jerry * r21455 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu: update french locale
18:52.16AmadeoDwellr: Sounds good :)
18:52.21Drelazow no sorry, it never works when i enter orgrimmar. But it does work when i enter durotar from orgrimmar
18:52.53DwellrAmadeo: see .. i was thinking about deep frying lard.. but thats gotta be tricky.. mebbe if u freeze the large, and batter it before frying it, you can prevent it melting
18:53.17hillbillyIs ClosetGnome used for "weaponswap" that is, can I use it to switch from battlestance to defense and switch wepons at the same time?
18:53.21Amadeothat freaks me out a bit
18:53.22Amadeohaha
18:53.23kenlyricwaffle batter, caramels, liquid smoke, wrapped around a stick of butter.
18:53.29Elkanowho to blame for problems with xloot?
18:53.34*** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-237-5-116.starstream.net)
18:53.35Xuerian>_>
18:53.42XuerianNot me
18:53.57Silviu-:)
18:54.10XuerianDamn you.
18:54.22Silviu-Xuerian, btw why i still get that XlootGroup anchor everytime i login/relog ? :(
18:54.22Elkanowell, XLoot Roll anchor keeps showing on login
18:54.23XuerianYou and your little dog, too
18:54.23trhkenlyric: sounds like an instant how-to-weigh-5-kilograms-more;)
18:54.31Silviu-Hah !
18:54.32Fisker-like
18:54.37Fisker-Best SG:A episode evar
18:54.40kenlyricIt's homer simpson's space age moon waffles.
18:54.56SarozFisker-, ye
18:55.07XuerianBoth of you: I messed with Anchors Away, I'll see what I did later. In nwn now :p
18:55.36kergothhahah
18:55.37Barbanusanyone heard if using the join as group for AV is considered an exploit? (calling the function directly, bypassing the fact that teh button is hidden in the UI)
18:55.37kergothYour system policy has denied access to the requested URL.
18:55.41kergothYour request was categorized by Blue Coat Web Filter as 'Computers/Internet'.
18:55.45kergothoh noes, teh internet!
18:56.17AmadeoThe Blue Coats are coming! The Blue Coats are coming!
18:56.24RoyalAnyone know if theres any plans for server-side dmg meters in instances? Like in BG's?
18:56.40BarbanusRoyal, I highly doubt that
18:56.46RoyalToo bad
18:57.09Barbanusthe BGs was to make healers "feel needed" to heal ... which is dumb :P
18:58.43*** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net)
18:58.46Dwellrthey should give extra honor to a healer and its target if healed during combat in a bg
18:58.47CIA-1703kemayo * r21456 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Quick fix for showing whether or not a rare is elite.
18:59.08KarlThePaganQFT
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18:59.20BarbanusDwellr, heh, thats not really required ... any good group knows that healers are the key to winning
18:59.31kenlyricif your joy from bg comes out of those number, I don't really want you on my team anyway.
18:59.33BarbanusI got 7K honor in like 3 hours last night rolling AB with my guild
18:59.40KarlThePaganbut that doesn't encourage healers to participate
18:59.45DwellrBarbanus: ok.. on our server.. u get a heal.. if ur in a group with a guildy
18:59.53Hocki normally have double the number two healing in bg.
18:59.54BarbanusIf you heal, you win .. you get more honor ...
18:59.56Hockit's rather depressing
19:00.01kergothi'm sick of losing bg, need to do more guild groups instead of pugs methinks
19:00.06kergoth:|
19:00.42KarlThePaganI participate because I want my team to win, but the dpsers easily end the day with 40% more honor than me.
19:00.42CIA-1703devla * r21457 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
19:00.42CIA-17Babble-2.2:
19:00.42CIA-17-Added Icons for Quick Shots & Snake Trap Effect
19:00.43CIA-17-Added Snake Trap Effect, check FR & DE, needs zhCN, zhTW, koKR
19:00.43Dwellrotherwise, forget it... its all.. 'RUSH TO STORMPIKE>> DONT TAKE OTEHR FALGS!"
19:00.46Barbanuslol
19:00.47Hockjust get renew-happy
19:00.48KarlThePaganI could just afk in AV and get the same honor I do...
19:00.48Hockrenew everyone
19:00.49kenlyricI always start out healing in BG. until people don't bother to protect me.
19:00.56BarbanusKarlThePagan, yea
19:01.00KarlThePagandoesn't matter... renew or no renew just by being in range of the kill you get the same credit
19:01.07Hockoh
19:01.08Barbanusyou dont have to heal them .. you just need to be in range
19:01.19BarbanusYou can AFK under the bridge at SP
19:01.21Dwellryup.. zerg with the losers =)
19:01.26kenlyricyou can get the honor out of range.
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19:01.27Barbanusand get as much as actively defending
19:01.30kenlyricif you renew.
19:01.37KarlThePaganthere should be an additional bonus for healing... I should be getting 1:1 the honor the dpsers do while I keep them alive
19:01.57DwellrI wasnt aware dps got any more honor?
19:01.57KarlThePaganrenew is 15 seconds
19:02.01Barbanushonor is equal between all raid members who were in range....
19:02.03KarlThePagantry it and see
19:02.10BarbanusI have ... its the same
19:02.11Dwellrin the forced raid group.. honor is equal.. dps doesnt make any difference
19:02.12kenlyricyou can get pretty far away with a renew.
19:02.25Hockeh, i don't really care tbh
19:02.32kenlyricand it only has to tick while they are in combat with the person...
19:02.35Barbanusif me and a dps are standing next to a guy when he dies, the dps does 100% dmg, and I sit and look pretty .. we get the same honor.
19:02.44waffleyeah.
19:02.49Dwellrbefore the forced raid you would get a percentage of the honor from the kill based on the dmg u did
19:02.49Barbanussince we are in the same raid.
19:02.53kenlyricunless the dps dies.
19:03.00KarlThePaganor you die
19:03.00BarbanusDwellr, yea.
19:03.02axxoXuerian: anchor displays every time i log
19:03.03BarbanusWell yea.
19:03.06KarlThePaganlol
19:03.17KarlThePaganin theory you're right
19:03.21Xuerianaxxo: I'm aware of the bug. When I'm done being lazy I'll fix it.
19:03.26Xuerianaxxo: Thanks for reporting it :p
19:03.28KarlThePaganbut in practice you're at the spirit healer and missing out
19:03.31BarbanusXuerian, haha
19:03.39BarbanusPfft, I am not!
19:03.44BarbanusI'm a paladin, I don't die.
19:03.49KarlThePaganthen the people you play suck
19:04.00KarlThePaganoh well... nef u
19:04.03KarlThePagannerf
19:04.10Dwellrnowadays.. I get same honor for going nutso aoe.. as going /follow on a priest
19:04.15KarlThePaganhad a paladin #1 dps and #3 heaing in ubrs last night
19:04.17KarlThePagan41 holy :P
19:04.20BarbanusDwellr, indeed, lol
19:04.32BarbanusYea, I'm 40 holy, 11 prot ..
19:04.38kenlyricthat rarely means anything good...
19:04.38BarbanusBoKings FTW
19:04.39KarlThePagannerf
19:04.44Dwellr41 fire =)
19:04.53KarlThePaganexcept we had 4 healers
19:05.05DwellrI dont get to see much of MC / BWL
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19:05.23KarlThePaganbut I've seen the light... or rather the darkness
19:05.27KarlThePaganI'm rolling shadow pretty soon
19:05.41axxoXuerian: thanks for xloot :)
19:05.46kenlyricI can't wait to spec out of shadow.
19:05.49Xuerianaxxo: <3
19:05.52KarlThePaganI will... at 70
19:06.00kenlyricI will at 60.
19:06.15CIA-1703devla * r21458 10Chronometer/Data/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
19:06.15CIA-17Chronometer:
19:06.15CIA-17- Added lots of new spells
19:06.16CIA-17- All spells should use Babble-Spell for icons now
19:06.16CIA-17- Many of these additions are untested, but should work. Post bugs on the WowAce forums
19:06.16CIA-17-Hunter- The Beast Within
19:06.18CIA-17-Mage- Dragon's Breath, Blazing Speed
19:06.21kenlyricscrew soloing any content in the expansion. They're making it painful.
19:06.29wafflei'm 10/0/41, but thinking of switching to my rogue for tbc.
19:06.47KarlThePaganI found it pretty easy soloing stuff spec'd 10/0/41
19:07.08KarlThePaganit's pretty easy soloing quests as 32/19/0 but I have to spend 30% of my time drinking
19:07.13DhragaI noticed that miles had updated the agUF, anyone kow if the partypet's have been fixed ?
19:07.24Azurewrathmhm.. anyone done Fankriss after 2.0?
19:07.31Dwellrooooh partypets? pls !! ;-)
19:07.40kenlyricexept that you get better xp/hour in a group in xpac
19:07.44KarlThePaganyes
19:07.46vhaarrDhraga: Probably not.
19:07.51Dhragaack
19:07.51KarlThePagani'll let the druids heal
19:08.04KarlThePaganor my VE/VT
19:08.13axxoAzurewrath: pain isn't it :(
19:08.28Dwellrhunters & warlocks all over the world let out a cry as if their pets were suddenly .. silenced...
19:08.28kenlyricdid they change fankriss?
19:08.38DhragaIsnt there anyone that could fix the agUF partypets ? (if ag and miles needs a hand)
19:08.40Azurewrathaxxo: dunno, just arrived there.. do the new drones respawn?
19:08.51axxoAzurewrath: no
19:08.56Barbanuskenlyric, did you use the supertank strategy before?
19:09.08KarlThePaganthey changed battle shout
19:09.10axxoAzurewrath: aoe does less damage when it hits more then 10target, and warrior aoe taunt is gimped, its annoying :)
19:09.10kenlyriconly successful kill I saw had 8 priests.
19:09.27Barbanusyou mean demo shout :)
19:09.32kenlyricwe didn't kill the spawns until fankriss was dead (apart from the snakes, of course)
19:09.36Hockwe killed fankriss
19:09.46hillbillyso whats the differance with Ace and Deuce?
19:09.48Barbanuskenlyric, yea, aggro from demo shout got nerfed
19:09.50Hocknot really anything different.  i think we had 5 priests.
19:09.59KarlThePaganwere they tanking?
19:10.07Barbanuskenlyric, so the supertank, tank all of the small adds, is harder now.
19:10.08Hockthe priests? no
19:10.11KarlThePaganlol
19:10.15kenlyricwe never used that method. But yeah, nef got harder.
19:10.34KarlThePaganwe don't have enough geared tanks to get past broodlord now :/
19:10.34kenlyricwe were using demo shout for that fight.
19:10.44KarlThePaganvacation + mitigation change owns us
19:10.51kenlyricwe had 8 priests on the fankriss kill... fear fear fear fear.
19:10.53Barbanuswe still did it with spamming demo, thunderclap, and had ret aura and thorns up.
19:11.30Necrathexis there a way to make ag_uf config icon on the minimap without the fubar plugin?
19:11.33Barbanuswe really didnt change much
19:14.03DhragaNo still no partypets in agUF, just tested it (you where right Vhaarr)
19:14.44CIA-1703devla * r21459 10AuctionSort/ (. AuctionSort.toc Libs/):
19:14.44CIA-17AuctionSort:
19:14.44CIA-17- Fixed Externals
19:17.10kenlyrictemporarily I use focus when there is only one pet in the party.
19:19.02BarbanusYou heal pets?
19:19.03Barbanus:P
19:19.12haarmis it true, honor wont be reset for tbc.. so you can grind now and buy stuff at 70?
19:19.18Aelielhealing pets depends on what the pet is doing :P
19:19.28Barbanushaarm, yes
19:19.46haarmok wtf, i need to go check lvl 70 epic pvp shizzles
19:20.29Azurewrathaxxo: mhm.. what changed? The fight was exactly the same as always, no prob
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19:26.14SkorcherXomg this is so weak... I finally get a Beta key and I cant play my 60's, because it makes me rename my characters and they wont rename, it just hangs.  Ughggh how frustrating, who wants to play 1-10 BE or Draenai anyhow... I was so excited to play post 60 content.
19:27.18evlSo you can play it over again when the expansion is actually out? :P
19:28.36BarbanusHeh, I've never been lucky enough to get a key :P
19:28.50NabuccoIs it important in which order I include the Ace2 librarys in my .toc file?
19:28.54vhaarryes
19:29.18vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
19:30.23Fisker-oh noes
19:30.27Fisker-should've been hello world
19:30.37boone_-_hey haarm, which server are you on?
19:30.49Gandharva_PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/21459
19:30.55haarmwhich which server?
19:30.58haarmlive or beta
19:31.03boone_-_ah, live
19:31.06haarmkor'gall
19:31.26boone_-_heh, thought i recognized your name.. don't know if you remember me, but i was on kor'gall a long time ago aswell, shee from gd2d
19:31.41haarmah, migrated somewhere right?
19:31.48haarmdragonmaw, or executus or something ?
19:31.53boone_-_yeah, went to executus after gd2d died
19:32.12haarmhow's it going there?
19:32.25boone_-_pretty crappy, most good guilds are disbanded/on break ;).
19:32.37haarm:P sounds like Unknown
19:32.55haarmexcept transendence is doing the old silence thing... recruit everyone
19:32.59boone_-_i'd move back to kor'gall, but the cost is too high for several 60's
19:33.09haarmyea, I'd move away, but the same problem :p
19:33.43Fisker-oh yeah
19:33.45Fisker-if this is accurate
19:33.52Fisker-blood elf pvp mount > *
19:33.59haarmblack chicken?
19:34.18Fisker-nope
19:34.19Fisker-white :)
19:35.51SkorcherXyeah so i can play it again when its live
19:35.56haarmdoesn't sound accurate
19:36.07Fisker-already honored with silvermoon
19:36.09SkorcherXand race to 70...
19:36.36haarmSkorcherX, first people to 70 will be the first people bored with nothing to do ;)
19:36.40Fisker-btw the mount is the only "unused" colour of the mounts in the datafiles
19:36.46Fisker-only the white mount remains
19:36.52Fisker-and there's a war hawkstrider in the mpqs
19:37.37CIA-1703rabbit * r21460 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist: Add Surfaces to OptDeps.
19:38.20haarmwhat's this X-License stuff i've seen cropping up?
19:38.37*** join/#wowace Vouilloz_d (n=Vouilloz@81.13.194.119)
19:38.59vhaarrPerhaps you should be more specific.
19:39.34haarmtoc file variable I noticed magically appearing where one there was none :P
19:39.53vhaarr!google what is a license
19:40.00Fisker-^^
19:40.04GoogleSearchGNU General Public License - GNU Project - Free Software ... ( http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html )
19:40.06Kaelten<PROTECTED>
19:40.09Fisker-like if it's freebsd, gpl or whatever
19:40.11haarmI know what a license is
19:40.12Kaeltenthats for this month to date
19:40.21vhaarrhaarm: Then perhaps you should be more specific.
19:40.50Silviu-Kaelten mirrors are out of sync
19:40.59Silviu-At least svn2
19:41.05Silviu-And svn is looping
19:41.07renchapsvn1 is synced
19:41.38haarmok, here, specifically, from the BugSack .toc
19:41.39haarm## X-License: CC-BY-NC-SA-2.5
19:41.51haarmwhat the hell is all that about
19:41.57vhaarr!google CC-BY-NC-SA-2.5
19:42.01GoogleSearchCreative Commons ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/legalcode.it )
19:42.03axxocreative commons
19:42.04axxobah
19:42.10KaeltenSilviu-: fixing
19:42.13vhaarrlern2google
19:42.17Silviu-Kaelten thank u :)
19:42.25haarmlern2document, that variable occurs nowhere
19:42.30haarmwell not you specifically
19:43.38hillbillyAce have anything like AutoProfit? Icon on teh vendor screen that autosells all grey items in inventory?
19:43.50AelielGarbageFu has that
19:43.56Kaeltenhillbilly: Automan does it without prompting
19:44.04hillbillyk thnx
19:44.29vhaarrhaarm: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Metadata
19:44.56haarmin which case, Kaelten, fix the wowace search
19:45.20Kaeltenhaarm: whats wrong with it?
19:45.39haarmsearching for "X-License" doesn't bring up the page vhaarr linked ;)
19:46.02Kaeltenhehe thats because it just searches wowace and wowwiki
19:46.11bindianyone has a clue how nRaidtracker works?
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19:46.29haarmthe page was from wowace...
19:46.31vhaarrKaelten: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Metadata is on wowace.com.
19:46.33haarm:D
19:46.49SachsD:
19:47.02Kaeltenhrm odd
19:47.08haarmhave fuuun :D
19:47.10[1]ClovenhoofDoes anyone know if there are any known problems with the savedvariables for Wow in Windows Vista?
19:47.34Sachs[1]Clovenhoof, there's problems with it?
19:47.49[1]Clovenhoofwell basically not a single addon is saving its settings
19:48.19haarmi havn't been following windows development... is vista released yet?
19:48.19BarbanusBlame google
19:48.20Barbanusgoogle does the caching
19:48.35Barbanusand it seems they dropped 90% of the pages because of the downtime from 2.0
19:48.36kenlyrictechnically, yes, but wouldn't consider it gaming ready until the consumer release at the earliest.
19:48.36[1]Clovenhoofafaik it is release for businesses
19:49.01haarmgood enough reason not to support it in my books :)
19:49.03[1]Clovenhoofwell wow actually runs better under it for me
19:49.24kenlyricme too. But wow is a three year old game. It didn't like newer fare...
19:49.37kenlyricnot with the ram I had, at least.
19:49.45haarmBarbanus, must be a way to force a re-index
19:49.55Barbanushahahahaha
19:50.01[1]Clovenhoofso basically noone has tested it yet :(
19:50.08Barbanusthis is google we are talking about :P
19:50.12kenlyricyes, I tested it.
19:50.31kenlyricI ran wow on vista enterprise edition for a week. Ran just fine. mods ran just fine.
19:50.36kenlyricthis was pre 2.0, though.
19:50.44haarmBarbanus, have you ever used googles services? i know for certain you can force it to reindex using the sitemap service
19:51.08[1]Clovenhoofthe mods run fine as well but the savedvariables arent weing written on reloadui or logout
19:52.11kenlyrichmmmm... I had strange issues with ownership of folders. I don't remember it affecting wow.
19:52.42CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21461 10Prat_FuBar2/Prat_FuBar2.lua: Prat_FuBar2: Renamed "Prat_Fubar2"
19:52.45kenlyricin any case, no vista until SP1, at the earliest :)
19:53.37[1]Clovenhoofhehe I have to use it , bought a DX10 card ;)
19:54.01kenlyricyes, for all the games that use DX10.
19:54.15[1]Clovenhoofyeah, Supreme Commander :)
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19:54.34kenlyricwell, prepare for pain, especially before the consumer release.
19:54.55haarmclovenhoof, although, if my memory serves me correctly, someone did mention something about symbolic links, and wow + vista messing up things
19:55.24Sachs[1]Clovenhoof. I was playing the beta of SC, it wasn't that hot. :/
19:55.25CIA-1703rabbit * r21462 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
19:55.25CIA-17Babble-2.2:
19:55.25CIA-17- Added Blessed Resilience.
19:55.35CIA-1703rabbit * r21463 10Chronometer/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
19:55.35CIA-17Chronometer:
19:55.35CIA-17- Use SurfaceLib for textures.
19:55.40CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21464 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat.toc PratFu.lua icon.tga libs/): Prat: Built in FuBar module. Tested on TBC.
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19:55.51CIA-1703gandharva * r21465 10Cartographer_Mining/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer_Mining - shiny new icons :)
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19:56.02[1]Clovenhooflol , SC is the best thing to ever happen to RTS games since total annihilation :)
19:56.15Sachs[1]Clovenhoof, nah.
19:56.20SachsThat was Company of Heroes. ;P
19:56.22haarmTA rocked
19:56.24CIA-1703saroz * r21466 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: deDE is fucked, removing for the time being
19:56.31SachsTA rocked, I agree. ;P
19:56.32CIA-1703rabbit * r21467 10Chronometer/Chronometer.toc:
19:56.32CIA-17Chronometer:
19:56.32CIA-17- Saner Notes.
19:56.37vhaarrTA > *
19:56.47nifeAny else having troubles with bartender and it showing the wrong keybinding
19:56.52haarmTA Kingdoms rocked less
19:56.53[1]Clovenhoofyeah company of heroes great as well
19:56.53Sachs[1]Clovenhoof, you've been playing the beta?
19:57.02[1]Clovenhoofyeah lots
19:58.54pixLSo, I have a slight problem. I don't seem to be able to open most config windows for my ace2 addons... trying both SCT and Tinytip now and both keep saying "MISSING" whenever I try to open them in-game. Thinking I might miss some sort of library but I was under the impression that all ace2 addons came with everything included, and the addons seem to work well aside from the fact that I can't change anything if I don't do it by console commands.. any i
19:59.02toddI just started a hunter, what's the command to dismiss the pet? I get an error when I do it with aguf
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19:59.36[1]Clovenhoofsome addons need a separate addon for the configuration pixL
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20:00.05[1]Clovenhoofand if im not mistaken tinytip and SCT are some examples
20:00.24pixLAny clue about which ones those two could require? It's a fairly long list in /files/ and right now the wiki isn't saying a lot about dependencies.
20:00.35[1]Clovenhoofsince they are configure once then forget about the configuration
20:00.40vhaarrpixL: I think we need a screenshot, or get the addons mentioned in the topic.
20:01.02pixLhuga... gimme a sec.
20:01.32[1]Clovenhoofprobablt tinytipoptions for tinytip
20:01.35SachspixL, sounds like you're missing the optional config menu mods for those two. ;P
20:01.36AelielTinyTip needs TinyTipOptions and sct needs sct_options, that much I remember off the top of my head
20:05.50CIA-1703ominous * r21468 10FuBar_RogueTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_RogueTimerFu: - Improved the tablet for when modules are deleted
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20:06.13pixLoh
20:06.17vhaarrOminous: Want me to delete FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu from the SVN?
20:06.35pixLI guess those two... would... help... lemme look into that and I'll wear this gigantic hat saying "l2read"
20:06.42Ominousi will in a few days when people have seen the change as in the origional i have made a popup saying
20:06.44pixL*blushes*
20:06.53vhaarrOminous: Ah, excellent.
20:07.20Tekkubpropaganda is fun! http://badvista.fsf.org/
20:07.39Ominousit will be thursday afternoon incase my pc messes up when i take it to grans
20:08.32Ominouswhere is a good place to get documentation on making frames with lua?
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20:09.10vhaarrsvn.wowace.com
20:09.41Ominous? there is documentation there?
20:09.44CIA-1703jncl * r21469 10Skinner/ (29 files in 2 dirs):
20:09.44CIA-17Skinner: Skinner KnowledgeBaseFrame( as far as I can atm); Fixed MiddleFrame
20:09.44CIA-17Alpha bug; Added 4 more MifddleFrames and moved their options; Changed how
20:09.44CIA-17DropDown Lists are skinned; Fixed MetaMap bug; Fixed UberQuest ScrollBar bug;
20:09.44CIA-17Fixed BonusActionBar bug; Fixed SuperInspectUI bug; Fixed CT_RaidAssist bug
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20:11.02Ominousgreat my isp is forcing me to elave now
20:11.09Ominousor soon i will ahve to
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20:14.33CIA-1703nabucco * r21470 10NabuFiveSec/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
20:14.33CIA-17NabuFiveSec: initial commit
20:14.33CIA-17- Displays remaining time of the five seconds before mana regeneration is fully activated after casting a spell. (Like the one in FuBar_RegenFu, but movable and sizable.)
20:18.01CIA-1703rabbit * r21471 10Skinner/AddonFrames.lua: Skinner: Fix nil error.
20:18.08pastamancervhaarr: lol
20:18.19vhaarrpastamancer: wut? :P
20:18.31pastamancervhaarr: exactly ;)
20:18.39Sachsvhaarr, he's laughing at you. Are you just gonna sit there and take it?!
20:18.50vhaarr~smite pastamancer
20:19.02purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves pastamancer from crown to sole.
20:19.02SachsFAIL!
20:19.03vhaarrnah, lag
20:19.09vhaarr^^
20:19.14pastamancerheh
20:19.27vhaarrpastamancer: what's funny?
20:19.50Silviu-[2006/12/19 22:18:26-33-x1]: Chronometer-0.10\Data\Warlock.lua:46: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Nether Protection" does not exist.
20:19.57pastamancervhaarr: jncl making a commit to skinner and you committing a bug fix within minutes
20:20.04vhaarrpastamancer: hehe
20:20.06Silviu-On english client
20:20.50vhaarrso .. what's with this nabucco guy?
20:20.52CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21472 10Prat/ (Prat.toc libs/): Prat: I'm in your SVN, fixing your externals
20:21.06vhaarrNabucco: Maybe you could just make the RegenFu frame movable instead of creating a whole separate addon for it?
20:21.21sylvanaarvhaarr: srsly, that would be a nice addition
20:21.27vhaarrIndeed.
20:21.54axxobut then you touch someone elses addon and get yelled at :)
20:22.05vhaarrHe's here, sylvanaar is here, he can ask.
20:22.35sylvanaaryou do the - branch and ask = anyhow, i think it would be good if it were an option
20:23.20vhaarror just do it, it's a revision control system, backing out stuff is possible.
20:23.22vhaarrand in fact, quite simple.
20:23.27lassizcifeature requests for oRA2: option to remove background transparency from MT and PT lists and option to hide target on pt list :)
20:24.13Sachslassizci, hide target on PT list?
20:24.22lassizciYup
20:24.31lassizciPlayer's target
20:24.32Sachslassizci, clear your target and 'set' it to the PT?
20:24.46lassizciTarget of a player on the list
20:25.01sylvanaari want a fram for mouseovertarget
20:25.04SachsAh, you don't want ToT?
20:25.19lassizciNope, not usually on PT list
20:25.31lassizciThere's option to hide tartettarget though
20:26.04lassizciI actually modded it some time ago and updated and lost my mod :)
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20:26.13CIA-1703nabucco * r21473 10NabuFiveSec/:
20:26.13CIA-17NabuFiveSec:
20:26.13CIA-17- added externals and log template
20:26.45lassizcibackupping is for those who make mistakes :P
20:27.49Tekkubor buy cheap hardware :)
20:28.40Daemonalassizci
20:28.45DaemonaOnly wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
20:28.57Daemona- Linus Torvalds
20:29.16CIA-1703nargiddley * r21474 10MainAssist/MainAssist.lua: MainAssist: Fixed Transparency not applying when new tank frames are created
20:29.57sylvanaarits good to branch tho - even if you are making changes just for yourself. So other people can see the code.
20:30.54sylvanaardoes skinner skin the chat frame?
20:31.29lassizciWell.. my mods are probably not worth of branching :P
20:31.35bindihmm anyone has a clue, i rly need a decent raidtracker :s
20:31.51vhaarrsylvanaar: It can.
20:32.09lassizciI would just end up to dailywtf :P
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20:33.18Mikmahehe
20:33.25MikmaBefore: http://edu.joroinen.fi/~mikma/polo/gallery2/images/IMG_0355.jpg
20:33.26sylvanaarneither are mine, but i do it anyways, its an important part of open development
20:33.29MikmaNow: http://mikma.reaktio.net/pusu/PICT1710.JPG
20:33.34MikmaWhat's the difference? :D
20:33.50vhaarrThe wheel caps.
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20:34.57sylvanaarvhaarr: cause people ask for prat features that would be better implemented in a skinning type addon - i can suggest they use that
20:35.08vhaarrsylvanaar: indeed
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20:36.48sylvanaaranyone have a chat frame already skinned?
20:37.16Hocksylvanaar - get that string replacement in prat yet?  ;-)
20:37.31Hock(i was not aware that you could skin a chat frame)
20:37.31nifeAnyone else having trouble with the latest bartender.  I can't seem to get it to display the correct button bindings
20:37.53Hocki miss shift-scrolling to change main casting ber.
20:37.54Hockbar*
20:38.11Sachs"<Mikma> Before: http://edu.joroinen.fi/~mikma/polo/gallery2/images/IMG_0355.jpg" There's a fuckin' squiggly ghost in the back of this image! D:
20:38.31vhaarr~seen sorren
20:38.55purlvhaarr: i haven't seen 'sorren'
20:38.55CIA-1703rabbit * r21475 10SorrenTimers/ (. Core.lua SorrenTimers.toc SorrenTimers_FuBar.lua):
20:38.55CIA-17SorrenTimers:
20:38.55CIA-17- Uses SurfaceLib.
20:38.56MikmaSachs: booo! are you scared now? :D
20:39.00vhaarrreally
20:39.48CIA-1703takadi * r21476 10Henge/ (Core.lua Modules/TotemHenge/TotemHenge.lua Sphere.lua): Henge: Misc. changes and fixes.
20:39.52sylvanaarHock: no, i put the fubar plugin back into prat thats going to be enough drama for one day
20:40.14Hockheh, understood
20:40.38SachsHej alla glada manniskor ifran staden Goteborg!
20:40.50Hockjesus this is addicting: http://www.jeannettevejarano.com/tower-defence.swf
20:40.54Hock<PROTECTED>
20:40.56Hockwhatever
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20:42.07[dRaCo]just got an error from ora2
20:42.40[dRaCo]one tank went offline and I got a nil error
20:43.27sylvanaarthats actually quite humorous if you think about it
20:43.49Hockthat's what i was thinking
20:44.02[dRaCo]hehe, yeah.
20:44.41Hockso may i ask: What is !BugGrabber / BugSack?
20:45.01Tekkubhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2006/12/19/wow-moviewatch-the-gnomish-crusade/
20:45.06Bapshock: it collects lua errors and stack traces
20:45.08hugowhadius arrows dont work ? ;o
20:45.08[dRaCo]"oRA2\Optional\PlayerTarget.lua:1493 attempt to concatenate a nil value"
20:45.17hugothe addon disapeart from extras when i come to thaddius
20:45.21hugo;x
20:45.27Bapsso that the problems can be more easily found and fixed
20:45.33Hocki see
20:45.35sylvanaarits so that you can report bugs usefully
20:45.37Hockokie dokey
20:45.51sylvanaaravoids "
20:45.55Bapsit's also useful if you just want to not have the annoying error boxes pop up in the middle of combat.  =)
20:45.56sylvanaar~bugz
20:45.59purlbugz is, like, "Does this happen on the lastest version? What version are you using?"
20:46.08NabuccoIf I have a module for Prat... should I add it to a new branch or right into the current revision?
20:46.11Hockwhat, "omg prat has a bug it shows letters left to the right of where it should be please help" isn't sufficient?
20:46.29Bapshock: different kind of error
20:46.35Hockoh
20:46.49Hockway to shoot down my humor, baps.  :(
20:46.57Bapsany time.  =)
20:47.12[dRaCo]~addon sRaidFrames
20:47.23sylvanaaryeah, chatframe copy is really what you need in that case
20:47.58Hock(i was joking, btw)
20:48.02Hockno such bug with prat.
20:48.10Hocki was just using it as an example.
20:48.11sylvanaarI know
20:48.19Hockalright.
20:48.40sylvanaarNabucco: well, what is it
20:50.17trhhttp://kqe.de/pruell/fireboob.jpg <- sweet ;)
20:50.29Nabuccoit was a module that targets the player you Shift/Alt/Ctrl(cant remember which one)+Click on in the chat.
20:51.41Nabuccobut that was preWoW2.0.... would have to update it.... but i was just curious how i should add a new module (new Branch or not new branch :D)
20:52.05Dranorheh
20:52.22Dranormy guild has officially given up on pve
20:52.45Hockit's sad how much that is happening...
20:52.53sylvanaarbasically, if you are just adding a simple feature like AddonMessages or EventNames - id say just put it in - default off. If you are adding something which requires changes to the externals or adds textures, sounds, fonts, or changes the default behaviour of existing modules you should braxh
20:53.01Hockwho care score higher than 57?
20:53.03Hockhttp://www.jeannettevejarano.com/tower-defence.swf
20:53.04trhDranor: mine too, but i don't care.. t2 completed :)
20:53.23Dranori do care, since i haven't completed nax
20:53.41trhwell.. in 6 weeks nobody cares about naxx anymore
20:53.44NabuccoSylvanaar: k thx... i'll keep that in mind.
20:53.51hugodamn thadius arrows
20:53.52hugo;x
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20:53.57Dranori don't care about the loot, my objectives were unreal...
20:54.11trhya.. its nice to have some bosses down, but in the end.. who cares :)
20:54.11Dranorthaddius arrows > any other thaddius mod
20:54.17Aelielnobody cares about Naxx even now, except for saying "lawlz but you aren't in naxx newb" to anybody saying anything they disagree with
20:54.18Aeliel;P
20:54.29hugoDranor doesnt work for half peeps
20:54.35hugowho have latest versions
20:54.38hugothe older version works
20:54.53hugoit just load when they come to thaddius, and it disapear from the "extras" menu
20:54.55sylvanaari dont mind personally, as long as it doesnt require me to do anything
20:55.03hugobut mouseover says module thaddius arrows loaded
20:55.06Dranori've been using latest version on the last run
20:55.07hugobut it doesnt show arrow.
20:55.10Dranorand it worked for me
20:55.16hugowell' were the atm and it dont
20:55.20hugothere*
20:55.44sylvanaari failed miserably on my Thaddius attempt - was so sad to seee
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20:57.12Dranorwe got caught in the middle of a lack of motivation current and a huge lag problem with one of the major isps, ono
20:57.34Dranorso doing thaddius was like playing the russian roulette
21:00.31BapsHock: I've gotten as high as 77
21:00.53Bapsand I can do it consistently, but I can't get any higher
21:01.03hugook we found it
21:01.06BapsI don't think 90 is possible anymore
21:01.06hugoLooks like
21:01.14hugothaddius arrow dont work cause latest Fubar libs
21:01.25hugoif we disable fubar it works
21:02.51hugoor not.. ;o sec
21:03.28sylvanaarare you LoD
21:04.48vhaarrhugo: Have you updated in the last 4 hours?
21:04.55hugoyes
21:05.03hugoand like 10other peeps
21:05.05vhaarrokay, and it's still not working
21:05.12hugostill figuring out how ot make thadius arrow work
21:05.25hugoyeah for like 30peeps it works for 10 not
21:05.33hugoand it looks like its some updated library
21:05.44vhaarrdoes it enable?
21:05.56hugoit says thaddius arrow module loaded in bigwings icon
21:06.03hugobut it's not in "extras" and it dont show arrow
21:06.38vhaarrhugo: /print BigWigsThaddiusArrows:IsEventRegistered("BigWigs_Message")
21:08.04hugofalse,nil
21:08.14vhaarrokay, that's not good
21:09.25Gastro"filter dispelable debuff" in sraidframes seems to be broken :(
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21:11.11PProvostCan someone tell me what the ora2lod.bat and ora2lod.sh scripts accomplish? I see what they do, but I want to understand why.
21:11.19vhaarrhugo: Working on the problem now, but I don't know how long it will take.
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21:11.50hugo654vhaarr i got disco so if you writed something, i didn't read it ;x
21:11.55vhaarrhugo: Working on the problem now, but I don't know how long it will take.
21:11.57hugo654after i said the false, nil;
21:12.19hugo654so it's in arrows or in fubar ?
21:12.25vhaarrit's BigWigs
21:12.39kergothPProvost: what do you mean why?  does it not make sense to only load the modules for the zone when you're in that zone?
21:12.48kergothoh, ora
21:12.50PProvostI don't know what it is even for. :)
21:12.51hugo654i see
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21:12.58PProvostI don't know what the modules do. :)
21:13.00kergothin that case, it lets you easily disable the addon for, say, leadership if you arent ever a raid leader
21:13.03kergothafaik
21:13.07hugo654vhaarr i downloaded old version from peeps that got it working, but it dont work anyway ?
21:13.17kergothmeh
21:13.22vhaarrhugo: "OK"
21:13.25vhaarrhugo: let me fix it
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21:13.34hugo654thanks vhaarr
21:13.35PProvostkergoth,   It looks like it just copies some of its internal parts out into the addons folder.
21:13.47PProvostI just want to understand better what is happening.
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21:14.01PProvostSomeone asked me to get WAU to do it for them. :)
21:14.22PProvostAnd I'm not sure I'm gonna do that, but I want to understand what they are asking for.
21:14.38Tornhoofreducing memory size
21:15.39PProvostOkay, so when they are in the oRA2 folder, they load when oRA2 loads, even if you don't need them.
21:15.50PProvostWhen they are "out there" they LOD themselves as needed.
21:15.51PProvostYes?
21:16.15Tornhoofas far as i understood that?
21:16.16Tornhoofyes
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21:16.51Rhidon"autorun lod batchfiles" or so would rock in wau :)
21:17.01CrisCr0sssHey im curior did anyone update DamageFu for damagemeters?
21:17.15vhaarrPProvost: BigWigs has one as well.
21:17.36PProvostYep. I know.
21:17.45PProvostThanks
21:17.45CrisCr0ssswho maintains MountMe?
21:17.53Tornhoofwell it clutters your addon directory even more
21:17.57Rhidondo lod addons get parsed at login time or only on load time?
21:18.01PProvostI don't care about that Tornhoof
21:18.28CrisCr0sssanyone maintain mountme?
21:18.56Tornhoofwow startup time
21:19.02Tornhoofnot every login
21:19.05PProvostThat one matters.
21:19.06ZealotOnAStickJust some sort of a configurable "run after update" that's off by default but users could toggle on and provide a list of filenames to run would be handy.
21:19.24PProvostCrisCr0ss, what does it say in the TOC?
21:19.30CrisCr0sssnvm its tekkub
21:19.36PProvostTekkub, ping.
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21:21.23vhaarrhugo: It's a AceAddon problem.
21:21.49hugo654vhaarr
21:21.53hugo654we figured out
21:21.56hugo654i got it working now
21:22.01hugo654< disabled all ace2 addons
21:22.01vhaarrHow?
21:22.02hugo654LOL
21:22.10hugo654gota ctra now instead ora and grid
21:22.13hugo654ctra+bigwings
21:22.16hugo654nothing else ;d
21:22.22hugo654just to kill thaddius 66
21:22.24hugo654:P
21:22.38vhaarrhugo: It's a AceAddon problem, hopefully ckk can take a look later.
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21:23.56hugo654i see
21:24.03hugo654so i need older version of AceAddon
21:24.21vhaarrYou need r21157
21:24.31Eternally777So I'm working on this project with Lomig, the author of Necrosis.  We have our own little googlesvn, and have been working hard to make Cryolysis an Ace2 mod... We're at revision 120(+) now, and I just NOW found out that since revision 1, he's been adding semi-colons to lines that are missing them, and I've been removing them from lines that have them...
21:24.33Eternally777-.-
21:24.46vhaarrrofl
21:25.00Iceroth:D
21:25.17kenlyricwhich one of you is right? ;)
21:25.18Rhidonhehe
21:25.28vhaarrEternally777 is right, semicolons ftl.
21:25.31Tornhoofyou might want to specify a few coding conventions ;)
21:25.53a-juror-catno way, semicolons ftw
21:26.08a-juror-catnot that it matters either way ;)
21:26.09Tornhoofi like semicolons
21:26.16a-juror-catsame
21:26.25a-juror-catbut some people absolutely despise them
21:26.25Eternally777Just one more character that doesn't have to be there imo.
21:26.31vhaarr~whalecrit a-juror-cat
21:26.33purlACTION crits a-juror-cat with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. a-juror-cat dies
21:26.33NabuccoNabuFiveSec: invalid external http//svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0!... hmmm
21:26.40a-juror-cat~whaleparry
21:26.45vhaarrtoo late
21:26.47a-juror-cataww :(
21:26.52Gnarfoz<Hock> who care score higher than 57? <-- 66!
21:26.54CIA-1703wobin * r21477 10ReverseEngineering/ (Libs/ ReverseEngineering.toc): ReverseEngineering - Fixed a missing library
21:27.07a-juror-catstupid laggy jury assembly room connect
21:27.42sylvanaarsemicolons are nice if you have to go to work in the morning
21:28.21sylvanaari find myself leaving them out of my c++ code
21:28.49sylvanaaror using "then" or "end"
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21:28.55kenlyricwhat are the semicolons used for in lua?
21:28.58a-juror-cati always forget then
21:29.00a-juror-catnothing
21:29.01sylvanaarnothing
21:29.09a-juror-catthey're there for people that code in languages that have them
21:29.12kenlyricthen what purpose would they serve?
21:29.22kenlyricso lua ignores them?
21:29.24rw3then is annoying
21:29.34a-juror-catpretty much
21:29.44rw3and I'd prefer {} instead of end
21:29.44a-juror-cati think theres one special rare case that a semicolon matters
21:29.47a-juror-catbut i dont know what it is
21:29.53kenlyricyou know, other language saren't so forgiving.
21:30.18Wobin<PROTECTED>
21:30.35a-juror-cathey :)
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21:31.00WobinI use semicolons
21:31.01sylvanaaryou can look at the grammar and see if its specialcased in one of the productions
21:31.07Wobinonly so I don't forget to use them at work
21:31.19Wobinotherwise it gets confusing
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21:31.26sylvanaaryeah
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21:32.32sylvanaaralso for editors that do additional parsing - it may enable feature in them meant for other languages
21:32.47Soulless<a-juror-cat> i think theres one special rare case that a semicolon matters
21:33.02Soullessdon't you have to end /script commands with them in macros or they throw errors?
21:33.12sylvanaarno
21:33.28CIA-1703nabucco * r21478 10NabuFiveSec/ (. Libs/):
21:33.28CIA-17NabuFiveSec:
21:33.28CIA-17- external fixed ... I hope so :(
21:34.27a-juror-catSoulless: they don't matter there either ;)
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21:34.37Soullesshmmm
21:34.59a-juror-cattem knows what it is, but he seems to be afk
21:35.01Soullessdon't you have to use them in single line loops?
21:35.06a-juror-catnah
21:35.08TemI know what?
21:35.16a-juror-catthe super special rare case for the semicolon
21:35.19WobinI'd use them in single line functions that have more than one command
21:35.24Wobinbut that's not necessary again
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21:35.43Temto clarify the syntax with parenthesis
21:35.45Soullesslike if xxx then something; somethingelse end
21:35.52BarbanusAnyone aware if using /script JoinBattlefield(0, 1); when you have a window open to the AV npc is considered an exploit of a bug?
21:35.55BarbanusIt group queues you.
21:35.56TemI can't remember the one now
21:36.08SoullessBarbanus: it doesn't work correctly
21:36.15BarbanusIt didnt work pre-2.0, but works now aparantly.
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21:36.30Barbanusdefine "correctly"?
21:36.50TemIt has something to do with function call syntax
21:36.50Soullessit randomly puts you all in queues
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21:36.56sylvanaarthere are 2 places they appear in the grammar, in chunks and in field separators
21:36.58Soullesslike, its not the same as an ab queue
21:37.06Soullessit just puts you all in the queue at the same time
21:37.13Soullessit doesn't mean you'll all join the game
21:37.22Soullessif that makes sense
21:37.22BarbanusSoulless, thats not what a friend was telling me :)
21:37.33BarbanusHe did it with 40 people, and all 40 got in, every time.
21:37.39Soullessnah, its serverside code that does it
21:37.44BarbanusJust like an AB group queue.
21:37.46Soullessid have to see it
21:37.46Wobinoh there you go
21:37.49Ominousin FuBar is it safe to call tooltipupdate at the end of tooltipupdate to make times be updated with the tooltip open
21:38.02Soullessbut i'd say its considered an exploit
21:38.02ArrowmasterBarbanus: ive used it and we ended up in different games
21:38.03sylvanaarthey are optional in chunks, and interchanable with comma in fields
21:38.04WobinYou need to use semicolon in the require function to separate components in the path
21:38.13BarbanusSoulless, yea I dunno, last patch you would just get an error.
21:38.19nifeThere's an addon that uses it and they say its like 90% effective
21:38.29Soullessconsidering its not open to stupid people, and they'd have a button there if they wanted people using it
21:38.33WobinOminous: Sounds infiniteloopy
21:39.17sylvanaaro.O
21:39.39sylvanaarOminous: Ominous: Ominous: Ominous:
21:39.42Barbanusnife, thats Stinkyqueue, and it doesnt use it :)
21:39.49ArrowmasterSoulless: my av queue window has a button there =)
21:39.55BarbanusIt uses a comm channel, and gets everyone to queue at the same time.
21:40.03BarbanusIts totally different
21:40.17Ominousthought som min = math.floor(mainHandExpiration /60 /1000)
21:40.17Ominoussec = math.floor(mainHandExpiration/1000 - math.floor(mainHandExpiration /60 /1000)*60)
21:40.18Ominousoops
21:40.19Arrowmasteractually i think stinkyqueue does but the author doesnt realize it
21:40.20Ominoussorry
21:40.21sylvanaarstinkyq can q peopl using the groupq bug
21:40.25Ominouswrong button
21:40.30BarbanusArrowmaster, I just read the code, it doesnt.
21:40.38WobinOminous: did you look at ClockFu?
21:40.42BarbanusIt does single queues
21:40.44Soullessyeah
21:40.48Ominousjust downloading to to look at it
21:40.50Soullessits just like being on vent
21:40.54Soullessand doing ti all at the same time
21:41.02Wobinyeah
21:41.09WobinThat's how I always did it =P
21:41.32Wobinhowever, I dunno if a 40 man premade would be any fun
21:41.32nifeI wonder which is more accurate
21:41.39sylvanaarwell, yesterday my friend was q'ing me while i was in strat
21:41.41Wobinexcept maybe against another 40 premade
21:41.45nifeI would love a 40 man premade
21:41.56CIA-1703rabbit * r21479 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Trigger a BigWigs_ModuleRegistered when a module has registered successfully.
21:41.57WobinYou would steamroll over a pug 40
21:42.07Soullessyeah
21:42.10CIA-1703rabbit * r21480 10BigWigs/LoadOnDemand.lua: BigWigs: LoadOnDemand: Trigger ModulePackLoaded with the actual addon name.
21:42.10Arrowmasteri made this in tinypad http://ace.pastey.net/3748
21:42.11Soullesspretty hard
21:42.18Barbanussylvanaar, yea
21:42.25nifeI'm alliance we always stream roll.  At least that way I could get some fun outta it
21:42.26Soullesswe had a 20 man premade come into av the other day, and down our general in 5 minutes
21:42.31CIA-1703rabbit * r21481 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: Listen for the new events and process the new details.
21:42.31Arrowmasterits what ive been using to queue
21:42.41ArrowmasterSoulless: are you horde?
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21:42.45Wobinwhy is it horde seem less likely to win in AV?
21:42.48Soullessthey capped nothing, just ran to him, kited generals, and pwned him
21:42.51SoullessArrowmaster: no
21:42.55Arrowmasterlol
21:42.55Barbanusace.pastey is borked for me :(
21:42.56Wobinwhile they do so much better in AB WSG?
21:43.01BarbanusCould not connect to MySQL server!
21:43.06SoullessArrowmaster: well, sometimes, but not when that happened
21:43.13sylvanaarthey dont know how to play thier cards - they dont defend enough
21:43.19Soullessi've got 4 60s, and i switch around a bit
21:43.19WobinHorde?
21:43.23Wobinit's true
21:43.26Wobinbut why?
21:43.34sylvanaardunno
21:43.37Arrowmastermost horde are stupid in AV when to win you need everybody doing the correct thing
21:43.37Soullessav is biased fro alliance with the layout
21:43.43WobinI've only ever been zerged a few times at a gy
21:43.44a-juror-cathorde are more likely to defend points in AB imo
21:44.25a-juror-catin av though, its really hard to defend frostwolf
21:44.25Wobinand then it tended to be a gy behind one we were already controlling
21:44.26a-juror-catcompared to stormpike
21:44.26Soullessthere are a lot of difference in the base layouts in av
21:44.26Wobinyeah
21:44.26Soullessyeah, the bridge is an amazing choke point
21:44.26Wobinstormpike is really... landscaped
21:44.26a-juror-catand the north and south towers
21:44.27Soullesshorde towers are piss easy to cap
21:44.27a-juror-catcan shoot the aid station flag
21:44.31Soullesswhile alliance ones, you actually have to kill a few bowmen
21:44.39a-juror-catwhile you can cap the horde aid station without worrying about the towers
21:44.39Wobinhorde you have to too
21:44.43a-juror-catno you dont
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21:45.02Wobinalthough I've stood next to a horde bowman npc while she continued to fire at people below her
21:45.06Wobinthen hit her a couple of times
21:45.13Wobinand she still shot at passing people
21:45.15a-juror-cattwo druids can cap the horde aid station
21:45.26Wobintwo druids can cap anything =P
21:45.26BarbanusWobin, yea, the npc logic is "shoot first, melee second"
21:45.32Barbanusand they have a deadzone.
21:45.36Wobingoddamn trees
21:45.43a-juror-catbecause the bowmen can't hit the aid station :/
21:45.43Wobinomg
21:45.44Tema-juror-cat, afaik, it only ever happens when you have 2 statements on the same line
21:45.47Wobinnpcs with a deadzone?
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21:45.54Barbanusyea, heh
21:45.57a-juror-catTem: really?
21:45.58Arrowmastersince pastey is down http://arrowmaster.tehh4x.org/~arrow/wow/AVBattlefieldFrameGroupJoinButton.txt
21:46.00Barbanusthey are rooted, and have a deadzone :P
21:46.07Arrowmasterthats what i made to queue into AV
21:46.08Wobinfinally =P
21:46.14a-juror-cati thought you didnt need it even for the same line
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21:46.32Tema = b ; ("something"):sub(1,2)
21:46.42sylvanaaryeah, i admit the bowman are pretty lame
21:46.43Soullesslols, http://youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA
21:46.43Wobin"a=womble b=frog" is the same as "a=womble;b=frog"
21:46.48BarbanusArrowmaster, it just unhides the button?
21:46.53CIA-1703gandharva * r21482 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - tbc stuff + fixes (deDE)
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21:46.58TemWobin, aye, they are the same
21:46.59Arrowmasterno i made a new button
21:47.13Arrowmasterthat has reverse logic of the normal button
21:47.14WobinSo it's not -necessary- =)
21:47.25TemWobin, it is _necessary_ in my example
21:47.25Barbanushaha
21:47.27WobinJust useful to visually separate lines
21:47.29BarbanusYea, I see now
21:47.31Wobinhm
21:47.34BarbanusI was confused at first :P
21:47.37Wobinaha
21:47.41Wobinaye prolly =)
21:47.43TemWobin,  a = b ; ("some string"):stringMethod()
21:47.44sylvanaarw
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21:47.47Arrowmasterit shows when CanJoinBattlefieldAsGroup() isnt true and hides when it is true
21:47.57TemWobin, without the `;` the parser tries to call b
21:48.08WobinI didn't know you could a (b)
21:48.30Temaye you can
21:48.35Wobina
21:48.39Wobin(b)?
21:48.42Soullessfuggin bookstore, i sent 220 bucks on books today, for leisure reading
21:48.51sylvanaarcan you relate it back to the grammar
21:48.52a-juror-catjeez
21:48.54a-juror-catyou read books?
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21:49.06Soullessnot really, but sometimes
21:49.09kenlyrichalf price books PTL!
21:49.17sylvanaaror is it an bug in in the parser
21:49.23Soullessgot a regex book so i can l2p
21:49.32TemWobin, no newlines seperate statments
21:49.35haste<PROTECTED>
21:49.36Temwell, sort of
21:49.41a-juror-cattheres a website that explains regex really well, for free :P
21:49.59Soullessyeah, but learning from a website and learning from a book are different
21:50.02BarbanusOkay, SUPERNOOB question ... how would I go about modifying the tooltip on the BG scoreboard ... I'd like to lookup the player name from my opium db, and then have it show the guildname... I can sort out the opium part .. just dont know how i would go about adding to the scoreboard tooltip
21:50.17kenlyricbooks are for learning, websites are for reference :)
21:50.35Soullessi can't decide if it was a good thing that nobody gives a fuck about lua b/c no bookstores carry books on it >_>
21:50.38Wobinkenlyric: speaks truth
21:50.46Soullessnot sure if i really WANT a book on lua
21:50.51kenlyricso you read the book and graps the concept, then constantly refer to the website when you're actually trying to make them.
21:50.53WobinSoulless: All you need is pil
21:50.54Soullessbecause its used for .....like nothing
21:51.02Wobinand that's free
21:51.03a-juror-catBarbanus: i hook gametooltip's OnUpdate script and do the modifications in there
21:51.08a-juror-catnot sure if thats the best way though
21:51.10Wobinso noone sells it =P
21:51.10a-juror-cator even a good way
21:51.37Soullessi know basic programming, and how shit works, but i don't know the little things, and proper syntax on a lot of things escapes me
21:51.39Wobinlua is an amazingly flexible language, though
21:51.52Soullessi dunno, i like it so far, its pretty straightforward
21:51.55a-juror-catpil's good for that
21:51.59Wobinyeah
21:52.04Wobinpil will teach you the tricks
21:52.11Wobinand the basics, but mostly the tricks
21:52.29Soullessi dunno
21:52.36Soullessi can only learn so much from books
21:52.55Soullessi've taken a fair amount of programming classes and i don't remember dick b/c it was all for stupid school shit
21:53.00Wobinhehe
21:53.01Wobinwell
21:53.06Sarozvhaarr, Emeriss auto-activation doesn't work
21:53.13Soullesswriting mods that i'll actually use, i remember things
21:53.13Wobinthere are currently 370 projects on SVN
21:53.22kenlyricthat's true of everything you learn. If you don't apply it, you won't remember it.
21:53.24vhaarrSaroz: You mean mouseover doesn't enable the mod?
21:53.27Sarozye
21:53.29Saroznothing did
21:53.31Soullessright
21:53.34vhaarrSaroz: Running LoD?
21:53.36Sarozno
21:53.44vhaarroh
21:53.56Soullessi've taken 6 hours of vb back when i was in hs
21:54.03vhaarrSaroz: There's a AceAddon bug currently that prevents OnIntialize from running on AceModuleCore modules.
21:54.03Sarozworked on kazzak though, but might be because someone with older version sent sync
21:54.10vhaarryes
21:54.14Sarozk
21:54.22Wobinyey bleeding edge =)
21:54.26vhaarrSaroz: Could you try to downgrade your AceAddon revision and try again?
21:54.35Soullessand my teacher last week asked me to do some shitty program and i had to goto a bookstore and reada book while i was doing it b/c it was so strange to me
21:54.35ZealotOnAStickwhat is "pil" ?
21:54.36Sarozhe's dead :p
21:54.36vhaarrSaroz: You need r21157.
21:54.38Sarozkk
21:54.39vhaarrgah
21:54.55sylvanaarvhaarr: bah@! i was wondering about that
21:54.57vhaarr!google lua pil
21:55.00GoogleSearchProgramming in Lua - contents ( http://www.lua.org/pil/ )
21:55.03vhaarrsylvanaar: indeed, nasty bug.
21:55.10ZealotOnAStickthanks
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21:55.51sylvanaarvhaarr: wow wonder if prat is gonna break when its fixed
21:56.01kenlyricI'm weird. I like tech manuals. I learn from them, even not sitting at a computer.
21:56.09Soullessok vhaarr, i suck and didn't write down what you told me earlier today, whats the wrapper you told me to use on opening casting bars so that the stupid face icon doesn't show?
21:56.31vhaarrSoulless: BC:HasSpellIcon ?
21:56.33vhaarrerr BS
21:56.46Soullesswhats BS?
21:56.50vhaarrBabble-Spell
21:57.01Soullessahh, ty
21:57.14vhaarr*GetSpellIcon probably.
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22:00.16SoullessGetSpellTexture, hmmm, ok
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22:02.34Eternally777Returns nil if the player doesn't know that spell
22:02.46CIA-1703rabbit * r21483 10BigWigs/BWL/Firemaw.lua: BigWigs: Firemaw: Fix frFR triggers.
22:02.51Eternally777Interesting.  Would that be more efficient than doing a loop through the spellbook?
22:03.56anenigmadoes Bartender3 support 2 keybindings for one button?
22:04.03HjalteWhen using Gmail the mail icon often doesnt want to dissappear after using the loot all option :-\
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22:06.20GnarfozHjalte: that server lag, try leaving the mail window open a bit longer after you 'loot all'. have been experiencing that with CT_MailMod for... like... since I began using it over 1.5 years ago :D
22:07.15Gnarfozor get fubar+mailfu, mailfu seems to check itself if there is still mail in the box and then simply sets itself to 'no mail' if there's no mail, regardless of what the server says
22:08.38HjalteGnarfoz, it still wont go away. I might try mailfu later. Thanks.
22:16.16sylvanaarsvn doesnt have a pin function does it
22:16.24vhaarrlock
22:16.36Nickenyfikenhmm
22:16.51Saroz:SetAttribute("sortMethod", "NAME") is so fucking broken
22:16.57Nickenyfikenwhere is andreasg and what is going on with agUF?
22:17.05sylvanaaryeah pin is shared, is lock?
22:17.27sylvanaarNickenyfiken: i think hes overwhelmed
22:20.54Nickenyfikenok :-/
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22:26.24sylvanaarwhat is that
22:27.29MakkI wanna learn to make addons... any tips, anyone?
22:27.44nifelearn the language first
22:27.53KarlThePagancan anyone here recommend a mouse lock mod? (LookLock etc)
22:28.03vhaarrnife: Nah.
22:28.43CIA-1703saroz * r21484 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix reverse sorting
22:28.43[dRaCo]there's an article in the wiki
22:28.43vhaarrMakk: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
22:28.43Makkfor instance.. Would it be hard to make an addon that shows how much mana my imp has in a floating frame?
22:28.44[dRaCo]that one
22:28.44Makkmy pet*
22:28.45[dRaCo]shouldn't be that hard
22:28.49Makkcool :)
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22:29.03[dRaCo]easiest way to do that would be an FuBar plugin
22:29.16Makkok...
22:29.21Makk<3 fubar ;P
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22:29.25vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon first.
22:29.33[dRaCo]yeah, read that one
22:30.38Makkthanks :)
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22:36.22KarlThePagannope... can't install cosmos again
22:36.27KarlThePagan:P
22:36.31KarlThePagannot gonna do it
22:37.12bjarvisanyone know of any good howto/tutorials on working with UI frames?  I'm reasonably competent with lua and xml and the WoW API but I feel I'm sort of missing the big picture when it comes to actually making frames.
22:37.18Nickenyfikeneh why install cosmos?
22:37.45Xuerianbjarvis: Ever done html?
22:37.46KarlThePaganthottbot and damagemeters
22:37.54KarlThePaganand a mouselook addon
22:38.04XuerianPort them to ace.
22:38.07KarlThePaganbut ... buggy installer :P
22:38.30KarlThePaganwell damage meter parsing stuff is a pretty big project to take on
22:38.37KarlThePaganI may be ready for it some day soon, but not today
22:38.47bjarvisxuerian: sure, though CSS and all the crazy extra stuff added since the 90s kind of blows my mind :)
22:38.54KarlThePagannot satisfied with ParserLib or DM really but DM works nicely
22:39.15Xuerianbjarvis: Doesn't matter. css would be more like secure headers which can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned
22:39.27Xuerianbjarvis: Anyway, think of a frame like a html page, pretty much.
22:40.00KarlThePaganalso can't seem to find a mouselook addon
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22:40.00Xuerianbjarvis: local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "name", parentframe)
22:40.21KarlThePaganI might do that one after i'm done with the 2 other addons I have to finish
22:40.24Eternally777s/parentframe)/parentframe, template)/
22:40.49XuerianEternally777: template is optional, and in lua it's generally easier to avoid templates alltogether unless you're using a blizzard template
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22:40.53XuerianEternally777: But yes.
22:41.32haarmactually I found it quite handy to create a template in an xml file and then create dynamic frames from it
22:42.00Xuerianhaarm: Exactly why I said 'generally', it allows for plenty of people liking to do xml templates :p
22:42.35Eternally777:-)
22:42.36XuerianAnd before anyone else punches holes in my argument, s/generally/to me/
22:42.37CIA-1703sylvanaar * r21485 10Prat/modules/ChatLog.lua: Prat: wtb namespaces for modules
22:42.38Xuerian:p
22:43.17haarmpersonally, I don't see the point of doing 50 lines of lua to make a frame, when you can do it in 10 lines of xml
22:43.26sylvanaarit really depends on what you are doing
22:43.29XuerianAnyone else I can push my pure lua propaganda on or is the fun over?
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22:43.39Xuerianhaarm: I've written a 100-line (guesstimate) XML in 20 lines of lua :P
22:43.42Funkeh`hey
22:43.54sylvanaaryeah, probably using loops
22:43.55haarmdepends entirely on the frame :p
22:43.59XuerianBut sylvanaar is right
22:44.20haarmframes with repeated elements, sure, complex frames, no chance
22:44.49XuerianWon't argue there.
22:44.52LomigHaarm : I actually did with a 15line loops in lua what I was doing in 1200 lines in a xml file
22:45.13Eternally777Thou speaketh blasphemy.
22:45.14XuerianI was just going to go off on a tangent about how blizzard better fix the lootslot tainting and I realized I didn't care anymore. hah. -- and lol, lomig. :P
22:45.47haarmI actually used xml for a template, and then lua to do the dynamic stuff exactly for loot slots
22:46.13haarmway back, I made much more friendly replacement master looter windows
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22:46.31sylvanaarlua isnt special tho - you could use xslt or that xml script
22:47.32haarmfunny, my mod was called LootMaster, which is in no way related to XLootMaster :p
22:47.42Xuerianheh
22:47.53MakkI'm moving too fast for myself :P
22:47.54sylvanaarheh
22:48.03Makkerror on line 1 ftw :P
22:48.55hypergearis there an ace2 addon with auto-join bg?
22:49.03haarmhad a scrolling window instead of a paged window for loot, and a roll catcher that displayed guildmembers dkp, and then you just selected a loot item from 1 list and a member from the other, and hooray, easy master looting
22:49.09sylvanaarnow though with secure frames doesnt that push things more towards using xml again
22:49.31KarlThePaganmakk hey that's progress ;) the best way to make software when you don't know what to do is to code a little bit and test your changes, and try to fix what breaks ;)
22:49.53Eejman what the hell happened to my ocb
22:50.00Eejthe bar lags now :|
22:50.18KarlThePaganI figured the lag was wow's fault
22:50.31KarlThePagandoes it look better with the default cb?
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22:51.08Xuerianhaarm: Nice. Give up keeping it updated?
22:51.15haarmyea
22:51.25haarmwas considering a revamp for tbc, but i'm too lazy
22:51.39XuerianHeh.
22:52.02haarmwas pretty bespoke too, integrated with the guild site to download dkp and stuff
22:52.14haarmsimple http dump to an lua file, and a /rl updated the dkp in game
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22:52.54Eejdunno haven't tried yet
22:53.07haarmneeded an external binary to do that though, so never even considered it for release outside the guild
22:53.26XuerianHm. Duno, might try something like that after I do se-loot
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22:53.51haarmwell the concept for simplifying the loot process worked really well, i got much praise about it
22:54.27XuerianWell, so long as it uses default events it should work with xloot just fine. It'd be neat to see it implimented
22:55.32CIA-1703rabbit * r21486 10DeuceLog/DeuceLog.lua: DeuceLog: No more critter reports, only reports people you've targetted or moused over.
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22:56.38sylvanaarswapmagic cant move the toolip - what do i use for that
22:56.49vhaarrYou fix SM so it can.
22:56.59haarmfeel free to look at the code, it's not 2.0 compatible though http://www.unknown-guild.com/mods/LootMaster_2.0.0_beta_2.zip
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22:57.43BarbanusHmmm deucelog eh?
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22:58.40BarbanusAnyone know of a mod that uses Deucelog's db to show the guid name of characters on the BG scoreboard? (or should I make one :P)
22:58.56vhaarrYou should code it into DeuceLog.
22:59.00vhaarrJust give me a diff.
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23:00.31XuerianWhat is Deucelog anyway...
23:00.58Barbanus"Logs when you kill enemy players or they kill you."
23:01.07Xuerianah.
23:01.10BarbanusI use opium, but I'm sure this is much better :P
23:01.12vhaarrPvPLog replacement.
23:01.30Barbanusopium isnt maintained tho either
23:01.37XuerianHm... I wanna make a compressed multipurpose log lib/handler or something anyway. Woo more projects
23:02.31Barbanusvhaarr, it logs when you just mouseover/target characters now too tho right?
23:02.39BarbanusXuerian, hehe
23:03.29vhaarrBarbanus: What?
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23:03.46vhaarrYou just said it yourself.
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23:03.58vhaarr"Logs when you kill enemy players or they kill you."
23:04.22Ominousis there an api to useitembyname or can you only do it by /use, cant find it in the list on wowwiki
23:05.21a-juror-catOminous: if it exists, its probably protected
23:05.38Ominousoki
23:06.10BarbanusAhh so its not exactly like opium. Opium tracks when you mouseover/target a character, and then just updates your wins/losses on kills.
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23:08.47Nickenyfikendamn will agUF ever get party pet frames back? :-/
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23:17.25Makkwhy won't the chat commands work? =/
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23:23.29CrisCr0ssstekkub*
23:23.46Tekkubmeh?
23:24.24CrisCr0sss[2006/12/17 12:29:25-22-x1]: <string>:"Mount Up":2: attempt to call method 'Now' (a nil value)
23:24.31CrisCr0ssserror when binding a key to mount
23:24.51CrisCr0sssalso it possible to add this feature > "auto-dismount when you try to mine/herb" ?
23:25.11TekkubMM is on hold till 2.0.2/3 goes out on live
23:25.31CrisCr0sssah
23:25.39CrisCr0ssswill you be adding the feature though?
23:25.52CrisCr0sssfor unmount when mining
23:26.06CrisCr0sssand also unmount when you right click enemy/monstor
23:26.13CrisCr0ssskinda like EzDismount
23:26.28CrisCr0sssit would be bringing the best of both worlds :D
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23:26.46Tekkubtry reading the feature list before you ask for shit
23:26.46Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/MountMe
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23:28.53Tekkubalso... http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
23:33.22Feldiaerrm
23:33.28Feldiawhy do I have 2 prat icons on my fubar now
23:33.35Feldiadid new version have built in fubar support?
23:33.48Hjaltekemayo: ping
23:34.38Hjalteindeed it had, feldia
23:35.18Feldiayea I checked the change log
23:35.19Feldiadecent
23:37.21CIA-1703neriak * r21487 10Fence/ (Core.lua Fence.toc modules/Fence_SinglePrice.lua): Fence: yeaahh! sexy single price view available - you gotta love this shit!
23:38.07vhaarr~seen ckknight
23:38.31purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 12m 3s ago, saying: 'busy'.
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23:39.39silvAnyone by chance know of any raidtemplate-esque mods floating around? (or even the latest raidtemplate itself, the curse site is telling me no mirrors are available and by googling its never been uploaded anywhere but curse)
23:40.13[Cu]Werikif you have no mirrors then it wasnt updated to 2.0 most probably
23:40.27Makkthis is kinda cool :)
23:40.37Makkjust finished WelcomeHome :P
23:40.53yacoobhm, anyone here played Matrix Online perhaps?
23:41.00vhaarraah, curse-gaming people
23:41.10vhaarr[Cu]Werik: Checkboxes no worky-worky! :(
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23:41.27Makkif I now wanted to show the contents of a string on screen, how would I do that?
23:41.44vhaarrMakk: Do you have AceConsole mixed in?
23:41.47Makkyes
23:41.47silveven though there arent any 2.0 mirrors, its still usable in 2.0 if you change the TOC
23:41.56vhaarrMakk: self:Print(...) then
23:41.56silvwould love to have this mod ><
23:41.58yakujimquestion: is there any known issue with the latest version of BigWigs in combinations with BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows?
23:42.14vhaarryakujim: No, it's a problem in AceAddon-2.0.
23:42.24vhaarryakujim: If you downgrade that, BW+BWTA will work.
23:43.13GoogleSearch~GoogleSearch
23:43.18purlextra, extra, read all about it, googlesearch is a Google Search Bot. Type !googlehelp to display commands.
23:43.30GoogleSearchGood night all ;)
23:44.04vhaarryakujim: The latest change to AceAddon-2.0 broke it, you just have to downgrade one commit.
23:45.06Neriakgood night guys
23:45.22uszvhaarr, i see you explain it for the n-th time, you could have fixed it zillion times by now, if only ckk let you do it ^^
23:45.40vhaarrusz: I could've fixed it if I knew what was going on.
23:46.05uszbah
23:46.05vid`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6561
23:46.06vid`lol
23:46.08vid`i like that :P
23:46.14vid`its tacky but i like
23:46.15vid`:D
23:46.28vid`i love the clip when entering instances hehe
23:50.32KirkburnHey, beta patch!
23:50.50KirkburnWhat have I missed? :)
23:50.54XuerianKirkburn: LootSlot in notes? >_>
23:51.16KirkburnOne might hope so ...
23:51.46XuerianOne certainly does >.<
23:52.20yakujimvhaarr: so any version of ace-addon older than rev. 21377?
23:52.59vhaarryakujim: Yes, 21157 works fine, for example.
23:53.57KirkburnXuerian, one also hopes that the pet dismissal blocked thing is fixed too =)
23:54.09vhaarrBeta patch? I'm not getting any patch :(
23:54.09XuerianKirkburn: Indeed =P
23:54.22Kirkburnvhaarr, ah, but can you log in?
23:54.27vhaarrno
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23:54.39KirkburnThen it's not up for download yet :P
23:54.41vhaarrI get the realm selection thing.
23:54.50sylvanaarbeta is offline yeah
23:54.57Kirkburnhttp://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1950247&sid=1
23:55.12AndyGvhaarr: located it norway, yes?
23:55.19vhaarryes
23:55.40AndyGsame issues for all norwegian users again

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