irclog2html for #wowace on 20061214

00:00.10cheersKirre: I bet o.O
00:00.16Kirrebtw kirre = goraxes
00:00.17yacoobiphoto slideshow for example, or itunes visualisation...
00:00.20cheersah
00:00.22yacoobor wow ;)
00:00.26cheers>.<
00:00.32yacoobWell Known Bug on pcintosh :)
00:00.41BS|triflyin game /tar raid3 for example work now.. in a lua file if i set raid3 in variable any fction can target this unit ?
00:00.41cheersiTunes visualization, you're not missing much.
00:00.45cheerswow, a bit more ;)
00:00.49thalieit can work as a display, yes, but you cannot cast a spell based on the click of that frame
00:01.15thaliesmartbuff/smartdebuff is as good as it gets right now i think
00:01.21yacoobcheers, exactly ;>
00:01.32dreamsswell
00:01.41yacoobcheers, so as much as I liked it, I fall back to debian +win32, and later changed debian to ubuntu
00:01.45dreamssim having trouble finding out who needs what in the first place
00:01.46TuX_BuBlingwhat's tekSupport?
00:01.52TuX_BuBlingand addon or what?
00:01.57TuX_BuBling!tekSUpport
00:01.59GoogleSearch~GoogleSearch
00:02.02purlhmm... googlesearch is a Google Search Bot. Type !googlehelp to display commands.
00:02.02cheersyacoob: I've heard good things about unbuntu
00:02.08BS|triflyyes smartdebuff work fine you clik on a name and it automaticall dispel the unit
00:02.12TuX_BuBlingok
00:02.13kergoth~google for teksupport
00:02.15yacoob(cedega won't cut it as well in my case, I have very unique bug in my setup, which makes some textures just...dissapear :)
00:02.20cheersbut you should give it a try w/ some apple hardware, so you get a good experience ;)
00:02.21*** join/#wowace sbu_ (n=sb@dslb-084-056-144-042.pools.arcor-ip.net)
00:02.27TuX_BuBling!googlehelp
00:02.34TuX_BuBling!google tekSupport
00:02.37yacoobcheers, I think about it, but macs are tearfully expensive here in .pl
00:02.51dreamssBS|trifly, will it display who needs what tho?
00:02.52yacoobit's better a bit with laptops but desktops are one hell of pricey
00:02.53KaeltenAway!google KC_Items
00:02.56yacoobPoland :P
00:02.59cheersaaah
00:03.01haarmland of pos
00:03.01cheerstry ebay?
00:03.02KaeltenAwaycheers: its  a perl file
00:03.08cheersshush KaeltenAway :P
00:03.11dreamsscause i have problem finding ppl in the raid window
00:03.18cheerssee, if OW had a polish localization, I'd know that ;)
00:03.19TuX_BuBling:(
00:03.19yacoobcheers, I'm in no hurry, and my mortgage credit comes first unfortunatelly
00:03.21KaeltenAway!google helpme!
00:03.24KaeltenAwaylol
00:03.29cheersdreamss: bliz loves having us play whack a mole, so... get used to it :/
00:03.33CIA-1703rabbit * r20432 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Changing items while adding a set works again.
00:03.37cheersyacoob: I hear ya
00:03.38kergothKaeltenAway: there is no google bot. that factoid was clearly created in one specific channel that had it
00:03.43TuX_BuBling!google why don't you find something interesting??
00:03.47kergoththey must not have realized that factoids are accessible in numerous channels
00:03.50yacoobcheers, I was thinking about asking a friend to bring me ibook from .jp, it could be as much as 50% cheaper
00:03.57cheersthat would work
00:04.01*** part/#wowace GoogleSearch (n=pb_ee1@rob92-8-82-242-12-147.fbx.proxad.net)
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00:04.14cheersif you're looking for new hardware, wait'll the 2nd week of Jan
00:04.16cheersMW's coming up ;)
00:04.26GoogleSearchAha it seems there is a bug
00:04.31Kirreok... lets see if i can be a lil more specific on my question....
00:04.34yacoobbut perhaps I'll simply change the dwelling place to someplace where ones like me are paid more, and everything will come ;>
00:04.34cheersthe support manager just IM'edme... "lalala write more bugs, we're bored!"
00:04.38yacoobcheers, MW?
00:04.42Amadeoyacoob: Cheaper from Japan?
00:04.45cheersMacWorld
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00:04.50cheersbig geekfest
00:04.55cheersapple likes announcing new hardware there
00:04.56GoogleSearch!google KC_Items
00:04.57yacoobAmadeo, it appeared so.
00:05.01Amadeointeresting
00:05.07KirreI am using Yata (totem bar mod for shamans)... i want to add 2 more Menu's to it and put more spells on it.  anyone able to help?
00:05.09thalie!google KC_Items
00:05.12GoogleSearchxD
00:05.16thaliegooglesearch, you fail.
00:05.18kergotha template library containing only a function returning hello, world took 0.8 seconds to build with gnu libtool, and 0.1 with jlibtool
00:05.19thalieFAIL, I SAY
00:05.22GoogleSearchI do today
00:05.29thalie~mock Googlesearch
00:05.30purlACTION pulls Googlesearch's pants down and shows the world Googlesearch's pink spotted underwear
00:05.31GoogleSearchI should reboot today
00:05.32yacoobof course 1/ comparing to .pl 2/ without customs duty, which makes your warranty null and void
00:05.34kergothhrm
00:05.42Amadeoyacoob: ahh, I see
00:05.42yacoobcheers, will have to check it out...
00:05.54yacoobcheers, I was laughing so hard, when I watched presentation of 10.5
00:06.10cheersyacoob: the one from hte developers conference?
00:06.11GoogleSearch!google KC_Items
00:06.13GoogleSearchWoWInterface Downloads : KC Items ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4040 )
00:06.16GoogleSearchAha :D
00:06.20yacoob"See? It's called spaces. Now, we told you you're stupid when you asked us about virtual desktops but it's different... look here... shiny..."
00:06.29cheershehe yeah
00:06.35cheershave to admit playing w/ that dev seed was fun though
00:06.42GoogleSearchDo you know what means the error "* No such connection id: 2"?
00:06.48GoogleSearchThis creates this bug on GoogleSearch
00:07.17GoogleSearchKaelten, you should type !addon KC_Items instead of !google KC_Items
00:07.22cheersyacoob: http://www.macworld.com/expo/index.php
00:07.28thalie~google googlesearch
00:07.34thalie!google googlesearch
00:07.44yacoobchuckg, nooo, I have to go to sleep... have mercy... no new urls or I'll be zombie tomorrow ;D
00:07.53cheershaha
00:07.59cheersthat one's not that exciting to keep you out of bed
00:08.01tlund!google just fucking google it
00:08.11tlund:)
00:08.15GoogleSearchIf you are not voiced, your search won't display on the chat ;)
00:08.27CIA-1703sayclub * r20433 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridLocale-koKR.lua): Grid - Added koKR translation.
00:08.30TuX_BuBlinglol
00:08.37TuX_BuBling!google tekSupport
00:08.37GoogleSearchJust type !googlehelp to have a list of commands, it's quite simple to use ;)
00:08.45thalieok bot, stop talking
00:08.51thalie~muzzle googlesearch
00:08.52purlACTION puts a muzzle on googlesearch so that googlesearch can't bark, much less bite
00:08.52GoogleSearchOk, going back on WoW :p
00:08.58TuX_BuBlingTeksupport ( http://www.teksupport.net.au/ ) << what a result ....
00:09.17kergothmeh
00:09.18GoogleSearch!files Teksupport
00:09.21GoogleSearchIndex of /files/tekSupport/ ( http://www.wowace.com/files/tekSupport/ )
00:09.29GoogleSearch!addon teksupport
00:09.31GoogleSearchWoWInterface Downloads : Vráins Compilation ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5231-Vr%C3%A1ins_Compilation.html )
00:09.33GoogleSearchCall of Elements » World of Warcraft Addons and UI Mods ( http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3407-call-of-elements-v23.html )
00:09.35GoogleSearch[Google] No results found for: site:ui.worldofwar.net teksupport.
00:10.14thaliestop spamming :p
00:10.21GoogleSearchI stopped :p
00:10.27*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
00:10.28thalie~punch googlesearch
00:10.30purlACTION hits googlesearch like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist
00:10.36thaliehaha
00:10.41thaliepurl's english needs some work
00:10.56BS|triflythalie ^^' ?
00:11.17kergoth~emulate chris
00:11.19purlOne day I got caught with my hand down my pants at school, and I had to keep it there all week...What a week!
00:11.22kergothhehe
00:11.34JoshBorkehaste: ping
00:11.44xgravixGazzmik Fizzwidget
00:11.47thalie~thalie
00:11.48purlACTION casts psychic scream.  the channel flees in terror.
00:11.57GoogleSearchrofl
00:12.19CIA-1703rabbit * r20434 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Just set the frame scripts when the frames are created, no sense in resetting them for every create.
00:12.22thalietrifly: whats up?  sorry, did you ask another question?
00:12.41BS|triflyyes
00:12.49Q6portraits no longer work in aguf?
00:13.11tlundQ6: i get them for player/target/tot/tott, but not for group members
00:13.18TuX_BuBlingmmmmh how does it work Oo
00:13.39Q6I noticed its eaither a question mark or a gray box for group mates
00:13.39hasteJoshBorke: pong
00:13.40CIA-1703rabbit * r20435 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: I'm just a fan of declaring stuff.
00:13.46*** join/#wowace sergio (n=sp@unaffiliated/sergio)
00:13.51BS|triflyi have remplace targetunit in lua by self:Print(best) best is a variable for exemple raid7 ok and i try in raid that work
00:13.57TuX_BuBlingdon't have teksupport in fubar...
00:13.57tlundQ6: exactly.
00:14.01JoshBorkehaste: did you get a chance to check on oCB? or do i need to do some testing?
00:14.27*** join/#wowace ggilbert (n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net)
00:14.28BS|triflythat print the raid number of the member who need heal in first
00:14.36hasteI haven't :(
00:14.42hasteIt's planed for tomorrow
00:14.47hasteor later today :)
00:14.55thalieit can display, but you can't take action based on that result - it's like detox/decursive/any other emergency monitor.  those functions are all blocked.
00:14.57JoshBorkeok, i'll leave it in your capable hands then
00:15.15thalieheck, if you can get it working i'll use it
00:15.31phyberKaelten: I've reset my KCI recently, and noticed that it's crap at auction prices.  there are 2 golden pearls on the AH now for 32g each.  so, KCI has seen this and gone "oh, 32/2 = Buyout price 16g".  that's not right :/
00:15.41Soullesshaste: has ocb been updated to take into account interupts and cs effects? >_>
00:15.44BS|triflyin game i writte /tar raid7 and i target the member it s ok
00:15.55thaliekci=toast
00:15.57JoshBorkeBS|trifly: that's because you did it
00:15.59hasteSoulless: it hasn't
00:16.01thaliewhich version are you using
00:16.08thalieie when did you get it
00:16.13TuX_BuBlinghow does teksupport work??
00:16.16Soullessokies
00:16.19phyberthalie: SVN, earlier.
00:16.28BS|triflyheu .... echo "/tar "best for exemple lol
00:17.10Aileen_where should we report bugs for oFoo addons, the oAddOns site?
00:17.15thalieyep
00:17.19BS|triflywhere can i find a list of the foction whish i can use in a lua file ?
00:17.36CIA-1703phyber * r20436 10Fence/modules/Fence_Bookmarks.lua:
00:17.36CIA-17Fence:
00:17.36CIA-17- Added credits line to Bookmark module.
00:19.01TuX_BuBlingit fuckin doesn't load :(
00:19.07thalierelax
00:19.21JoshBorkeBS|trifly: you can use lots of functions in lua
00:20.10tlundBS|trifly: www.lua.org
00:20.15BS|triflythx
00:20.18TuX_BuBlingi must go to sleep i think :)
00:20.44tlundBS|trifly: more specificly http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/
00:21.31tlundBS|trifly: you might also want to check out http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API
00:21.38cheersnight, TuX_BuBling
00:22.15TuX_BuBlingnite all and thx for help
00:23.10Goebbigwigs revision counter moves faster than my garbage collection
00:23.21thaliethat's because rabbit rules.
00:23.42cheerslol
00:23.43Goebthere should be an activity counter on the site that measures updates in revisions per second just for him
00:23.56thalieheh
00:24.43thalie~vhaarr
00:24.44purlsilly rabbit, closetgnome is for kids.
00:24.50thaliebah
00:25.05CIA-1703uruloke * r20437 10ArcHUD2/Rings/EnergyTick.lua:
00:25.05CIA-17ArcHUD2:
00:25.06CIA-17* Fixed EnergyTick ring triggering on anyone's energy updates
00:25.20kergothphyber: dunno who the official maintainer is, but Fence's sort module is useless.
00:25.26thalie~vhaarr
00:25.27purlsilly rabbit, closetgnome is for kids.
00:25.28kergothcreates a column header that doesnt sort when you click
00:25.31kergothheh
00:25.34thaliepurl i hate you
00:25.36purlYou hate you?
00:25.40thalie:p
00:25.51BarbanusAnother noob question ... is anyone having honor print in chat twice for every kill for honorfu?
00:26.14Barbanusprobably my libraries or soemthing .. but yea
00:26.36thalienight folks
00:27.16CIA-1703nymbia * r20438 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
00:27.16CIA-17GrindStatus:
00:27.16CIA-17- Fixed nil error in tooltip when session time is greater than 1 hour.
00:27.53snurre-goddamnit.. 9 SM library runs in a row, no dagger
00:27.57CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20439 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Added clickable invite "links". [default off]
00:28.04CIA-1703nymbia * r20440 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
00:28.04CIA-17GrindStatus:
00:28.04CIA-17- Removed debuggy :Print()'s
00:28.27*** join/#wowace ZeusJuice (n=zeus@pool-68-237-213-214.ny325.east.verizon.net)
00:28.54cheerssnurre-: bet you have enough illusionary rods to build a log cabin though ;)
00:29.14*** join/#wowace rw3 (i=rw3@GMMMCCXLVII.dsl.saunalahti.fi)
00:30.16ZeusJuiceanyone know what may cause WoW to lag for a half second whenever I put anything in my bags?
00:30.19CIA-1703prandur * r20441 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/FuBar_ItemBonusesFu.toc: FuBar_ItemBonusesFu: updated for latest ItemBonusLib
00:30.30*** join/#wowace Fridgid (i=Fridgid@24.96.171.248)
00:30.38ZeusJuiceI don't have itembonuses installed
00:30.49renchapsylvanaar: thx for this feature :)
00:37.13vid`damnit
00:37.13vid`lol
00:37.17vid`fubar keeps gettin me killed
00:37.23vid`the addon popups go over y hotkeys :)
00:37.26vid`the ones i click
00:37.27vid`hehe
00:37.33vid`and i cant click hotkeys omg
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00:46.55Gngskyou should just die by default for clicking action bars
00:47.14Gngskor, buttons omg
00:47.20JoshBorkehaste: where in oCB do you set the casting?
00:47.21cheersaw
00:47.23cheersI click buttons
00:47.29Gngskdie!
00:47.33hasteJoshBorke: hmm?
00:47.34cheersno!
00:47.40cheerswhen i had my pots key-bound I'd drink em on accdient
00:47.44kebinusangnsk I do both
00:47.54Gngskyou're a warlock right?
00:47.58kebinusanyeah
00:48.03kebinusanstuff I use all the time is keybound
00:48.04Gngskk, warlocks and hunters can do 1/2
00:48.14AmadeoWhat addons are good for a Priest?
00:48.16kebinusanother stuff is clickeh
00:48.21Gngskanyone else should be able to bind all their actions to keys
00:48.21AmadeoPriest-specific type
00:48.27cheersAmadeo: to do what?
00:48.31Gngskwall, druids can prolly get some slack too
00:48.32hasteJoshBorke: be fast, I was just heading towards the bed :D
00:48.34Gngskbut other than that!
00:48.39Amadeocheers: Help my girlfriend play better
00:48.41Amadeohaha
00:48.49cheersAmadeo: that's a loaded question
00:49.02JoshBorkeself.casting
00:49.07JoshBorkei can't even find where you register for events!
00:49.49Amadeocheers: That just makes it more fun
00:49.51JoshBorkehm
00:50.00hasteJoshBorke: events are registered in core/ocb.lua, while the events are in core/casting.lua
00:50.13hasteJoshBorke: and with that I'm going to bed, so good night :)
00:50.18JoshBorkehaste: you never set oCB.channel or oCB.casting, do you?
00:50.20JoshBorkeok, nn
00:50.34cheersAmadeo: you guys levelling, or 60?
00:50.38Amadeo60
00:50.41hasteJoshBorke: I'm not really sure about anything anymore :( *afk*
00:51.27cheers:shrug:  I can tell you what I use, but that's not necessarily gonna make her play better, or anything, and if it's not what she likes, well, it'll just be worse.
00:51.30KirkburnHahaha! Warp Stalkers create Soulwells! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOm7Y6uWWyg
00:51.46cheersKirkburn: yeah, saw that this morning... too amusing :D
00:52.53*** join/#wowace Jakobud (n=Jakobud@sceapdsd42-130.989studios.com)
00:53.01Amadeocheers: She just needs to dispel me faster :P I think losing Decursive/Detox owned her
00:53.18cheersAmadeo: practice is gonna be the thing for that
00:53.27Amadeodoesn't work, I've tried!
00:53.48cheersAmadeo: she can try clique to dispel, which seems like it'll help with large scale dispelling
00:54.07Amadeodoes Grid have something like that in it, also?
00:54.17cheersdon't think so
00:54.26cheersbut you can use clique & grid in conjuction i believe
00:54.43Amadeoyeah, maybe Clique is the best bet
00:55.28cheerschanges dispelling from mashing the /decursive macro, to clicking on the frame to cast the spell :shrug:
00:55.47cheersstill gotta see the debuff & decide to do something about it
00:55.47AmadeoI remember on my Priest, I used to use stuff like...um...damn, I forget the name, but it made buttons that appeared under each unit frame, you could customize the spells there
00:55.54Amadeothat was a long time ago
00:56.02cheersthat's, um...
00:56.06cheerscastParty?
00:56.13cheersbut i don' t think it's being maintained anymore
00:56.16JoshBorkegroup buttons?
00:56.21cheersthat's the one
00:56.27Amadeomaybe!
00:56.31Amadeonot cast party though
00:56.41cheersI've always  been a button-pusher
00:56.45cheersso I wouldn't know
00:57.05AmadeoI do a little of both
00:57.12AmadeoI hate multiple key presses to do stuff
00:57.17Amadeolike shift-x
00:57.19Amadeobleh, hate it
00:57.21cheerswhat class are you, Amadeo?
00:57.30cheerslol
00:57.31AmadeoI have a few...my Priest is old, prior to most of the good addons
00:57.36cheersyou could do like my BF & bind up his whole keyboard
00:57.38AmadeoWarlock and Warrior also
00:57.56AmadeoI have most of the left side bound, stuff I can reach fast
00:58.06cheersyeah, him too
00:58.08Amadeoother side is for less used things
00:58.23cheersso weird to lay his rogue while he's getting dinner orsomething, and having to hit Q to attack things >.<
00:58.40Amadeohaha, Q is my attack too
00:58.51AmadeoI didn't know you were my girlfriend
00:58.56cheerslol
00:59.10cheersand now I know you think my priesting sucks! *sob* ;)
00:59.28AmadeoNope, as long as you're fast, I don't care what you do :)
00:59.58cheersQ is fireball, and Q is mutilate and Q is I think it's MS on the warrior
00:59.58cheershehe
01:00.05AmadeoI wish I had a Rogue and Mage
01:00.15Amadeoin that order
01:00.20cheerslol
01:00.23cheersthe mage was first
01:00.29cheersthe rogue's the most recent
01:00.38Solerogue is fun :)
01:00.43AmadeoI hate leveling...I just like the level 60 stuff
01:00.45cheersI didn't like mine
01:00.45KarlThePagananyone else having a problem recieving individual emails from the WowAce google group?
01:00.49AmadeoI have a Shaman in the making though
01:00.51AmadeoI can't wait to DW
01:00.51cheerswhich is why mine's languishing away at lv 35
01:01.31AmadeoI'm the opposite...I can't stand mana
01:01.53AmadeoRun out of mana and you're useless...I'd rather just worry about health and have people run out of mana to save me :D
01:01.59cheerseh
01:02.12cheersso I don't run out ;0
01:02.21KarlThePaganthings die before I go oom
01:02.25cheersexactly
01:02.28Amadeobah
01:02.30Amadeo:P
01:02.35KarlThePaganunless it's like... 10 horde
01:02.35cheersand if they don't, I just get juan to come kill them for me ;)
01:02.47AmadeoDon Juan?
01:02.51cheerslol
01:03.01cheersonly to me ;)
01:04.05Amadeohaha
01:04.24CIA-1703antiarc * r20442 10Sanity2/ (SanityDisplay.lua SanityItemCache.lua): Sanity2: Fixed a problem that caused the FuBar stuff to throw an error on login.
01:04.40KarlThePaganso i've gotta see what they did to the priest zg trinket
01:04.46cheers?
01:05.00cheerswasn't worth getting  before, I'm sure any changes they made havne't improved it.
01:05.01KarlThePaganthey changed all the trinket scalability
01:05.16KarlThePaganwell it is sorta worth it to me without buffs
01:05.20KarlThePagani like having a 42 yard smite
01:05.28AmadeoThere's a trinket you get from an easy TBC quest that's pretty nice
01:05.29cheersdon't need the trinket for rhat
01:05.31cheersfor that
01:05.38CIA-1703sole * r20443 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2: Added "Find Weakness" incl icon. English only.
01:05.43KarlThePaganah but if you want to maximize your +dmg you do
01:06.00KarlThePagantrinket, neck, wrist - these slots have the lowest item budget
01:06.10cheerseh
01:06.15cheersthe gain isn't worth the cost
01:06.22cheerslong and short of it is the priest set bonus' suck.
01:06.24KarlThePagannot that hard
01:06.46KarlThePaganif you're a smiter... you'll love having supreme range in group pvp
01:07.04KarlThePaganif you're not well then there's gonna be a communication barrier here ;)
01:07.14cheersI smite
01:07.23KarlThePagannot really
01:07.27KarlThePagan32/19/0
01:07.30cheersI'm not SPECCED for smiting
01:07.36cheersbut i don't really have another option
01:07.44KarlThePagansry heh
01:07.49cheersbut even disc specced i wouldn't wear ZG healing peicees over the oraccle & whatnot in my bags
01:08.01Solegrr I hate people committing to my fucking addon
01:08.06KarlThePaganyou should try it
01:08.20cheerskinda locked in, atm
01:08.20KarlThePaganget 3pc zg, plus all the +dmg you can get
01:08.34KarlThePaganthen play group pvp like you normally would, but also kill stuff
01:08.38cheerslol
01:08.44KarlThePagan;)
01:08.50cheerswhat'sthe range from the ZG set...
01:08.52cheersit's not that much
01:08.52ZeusJuiceanyone know what may cause WoW to lag for a half second whenever I put anything in my bags?
01:08.56KarlThePagan5 yards
01:09.01KarlThePaganwith holy reach it's 42 total
01:09.20cheers5 yds vs my rockfury bracers, and either my ZHC or my PvP trink?
01:09.27cheersI'll let hte 5 yrd sgo, easy.
01:09.28JoshBorkeuh oh
01:09.36JoshBorkedon't load a fubar plugin while you have teh fubar menu open
01:10.02KarlThePaganyea you gotta try it :P
01:10.10JoshBorkeit bugs it out :-(
01:10.45KarlThePaganat any rate if you don't wanna give up rockfury go with the sholders or the belt, but I've got much better bwl pieces there now
01:10.57KarlThePaganat any rate... i'm goin to see if they made the ZG trinket a general spell haste item
01:11.14CIA-1703sole * r20444 10Antagonist/ (Antagonist.lua Data/Buffs.lua):
01:11.14CIA-17Antagonist
01:11.14CIA-17- Optimized target casting code.
01:11.14CIA-17- All target casts should now be shown. Even spells not in the data files.
01:11.14CIA-17- Commented out debug messages in target casting code.
01:11.14CIA-17- Added 'Find Weakness' buff.
01:11.14KarlThePaganheh yea
01:11.23KarlThePaganrockfury is weak compared to those
01:11.25cheersseriously, i'd have to take of something on the order of 70 dmg to pick up that 3 piece. not worth it.
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01:11.47KarlThePaganseriously you can't understand what outranging mages and hunters does to keep you safe in pvp
01:11.48cheersesp when the pieces I'd put on wouldn't help me any, in and of themselves
01:11.54KarlThePaganesp with good teammates
01:12.07cheersyeah, like they aren't going to take that step forward to shoot you back, though
01:12.27KarlThePaganoh they will, but they won't know wtf to do when you smite them back for 1.2k
01:12.33cheersheh
01:12.37cheerssure they do
01:12.41cheersthey fireball me back for 3k
01:12.57cheersPvP's gotten MEAN lately
01:13.02KarlThePaganyea mages have :P
01:13.10cheersif I take dmg off, it'll be for stam, not range
01:13.11KarlThePaganmages and hunters both i suppose
01:13.13AmadeoPvP sucks lately :P
01:13.15cheersand rogues
01:13.16cheersand palis
01:13.22cheers(and god, I never thought I'd say THAT)
01:13.27KarlThePaganbut a lot of them still try to outrange you and by the time they figure out they can't they're at 20% life
01:13.35Eternally777Kaelten, :Ping
01:14.00KarlThePagani used to play that way ;)
01:14.01Amadeoyep
01:14.04Amadeothat's the best way to do it
01:14.06Amadeocharging in
01:14.06cheershunters don't often know what to do when you run straight at them.
01:14.07Solemy rogue is fun in pvp now
01:14.16Solemutilate is evil
01:14.19cheersoh god
01:14.20KarlThePaganscattershot? lol
01:14.22cheersMutilate *cry*
01:14.39cheersKarlThePagan: yeah, and then you come back & fear him AND fluffy
01:14.51Soleheh Ive lost count of how many people Ive 100-0 with mutilate
01:14.56Arrowmasteranybody else notice the enemycastbars attached to the nameplates seem to be broken
01:14.59KarlThePaganice trap cheers
01:15.10Solearrowmaster: thats why you use Antagonist :P
01:15.13cheersKarlThePagan: there's counters for every move
01:15.14KarlThePaganthey'll stand on top of it after their SS goes
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01:15.23Arrowmasteri do
01:15.43CIA-1703antiarc * r20445 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: Added a menu item (with confirmation) to wipe Sanity's databases.
01:16.19AmadeoBeast Mastery is insane now
01:16.24AmadeoMy Warrior might as well just lay down and die
01:16.27Amadeocan't snare them
01:16.32cheersit got nerfed in t he beta, didn't it?
01:16.42cheersdown to 10%?
01:16.43Amadeoyeah, but the snare/root thing still exists
01:16.49cheersyeah, well
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01:17.03cheersthey got PvP buffs they didn't need, instead of PvE ones
01:17.07KarlThePaganbah i need more rep
01:17.16cheersthat said, our 3 sound happy so...
01:17.32AmadeoI'm sure they'll do great in PvE with the new gear though
01:17.37cheers:shrug:
01:17.53cheerswho knows, DM meters aren't picking up their auto-shots
01:18.16AmadeoI expect the meters to totally change by 70
01:18.25cheersoh yeah, and all the way up
01:18.26AmadeoI think Blizzard wants to rearrange DPS
01:18.46AmadeoSince Kalgan says Mages will lead them now
01:18.53cheersthey do now
01:19.04cheersdepending on the  fight
01:19.26CIA-1703rabbit * r20446 10ClosetGnome/ (10 files in 3 dirs):
01:19.26CIA-17ClosetGnome:
01:19.26CIA-17<PROTECTED>
01:19.26CIA-17<PROTECTED>
01:19.39SoleIm wondering wtf is the purpose of a rogue if mages will be lead single target dps?
01:19.40cheerslol
01:19.52cheersSole: same thing they are now...
01:19.57Amadeohighest melee DPS
01:20.00cheersmages & rogues trade off
01:20.04cheersdepending on the fight.
01:20.18Solehmm
01:20.43Solethis just better not be like the first days of MC
01:20.51cheers:shrug: who knows
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01:21.08Amadeoyou mean when you went in, and the first pull wiped your whole raid?
01:21.15Barbanus~seen Takadi
01:21.23purltakadi is currently on #wowace (3d 4h 29m 16s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 2d 29m 43s, last said: 'Vanish: yes, and I'm actually not sure why the arcane int / brilliance button isn't showing :)'.
01:21.25zoktaranyone know a mass msging addon ?
01:22.27BarbanusI guess reporting a bug in henge to him ... wont work eh? :P
01:22.27SoleAmadeo: I mean guilds only brang 2-4 rogues to a raid because they had to purpose but to pick up loot
01:22.28cheersSole: oh, you mean like our hunters now?
01:22.28Solehah
01:22.28AmadeoI dunno Sole, I imagine Rogues will be brought along
01:22.28Solecheers: your hunters just dont know what to do
01:22.28Amadeocheers: I have a feeling your boyfriend is a Hunter :P
01:22.28cheerswe carry 2, with a spare for tranq shots on grobb
01:22.30Solecheers: one of our hunters has figured out the new cycles
01:22.31cheersAmadeo: nope
01:22.34cheershe flings fireballs
01:22.42Amadeohah
01:22.43cheersSole: I can't say post-patch
01:22.44haarmwe used to bring hunters just for tranq shot
01:22.44Solecheers: and he beat out most people in naxx last night
01:23.04Bverdoes MountMe use your bug mounts when in AQ??
01:23.13Bverand normal outside ot it
01:23.16Bver?
01:23.18Solehunters are still very good in both PVP/PVE, in fact probably even better now
01:23.27cheershunters are  crazy in PvP
01:23.39Soleonly one hunter has figured out the correct pve cycle though
01:23.42Soleand hes not sharing lol :P
01:23.48cheerscruel
01:23.51cheersdinnar time!
01:23.55Solehe wants the other hunters to think
01:24.00Amadeosure... :P
01:24.07Solewell he showed it alright
01:24.20Soleby being top 5 on patchwerk
01:24.22testifyIn all of the newer UnitFrame addons that have come out they have a thing called a focus frame. What is this frame used for?
01:24.30Q6okay, after playing with the ui for the pass 4 hrs, this is what i came up with. All ace2 mods besides KTM which btw when will become a acemod? :)
01:24.33AmadeoSole: What classes were above him?
01:24.35Q6http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1645/wow2006121320053565wt2.jpg
01:24.36Solebut then again, hes probably the best hunter Ive met in game so Im not surprised
01:24.48SoleAmadeo: rogues/fury wars
01:25.17ZeusJuicereally wish swstats had built-in threat meters
01:25.22KarlThePaganlol 5% smite dmg bonus
01:25.24KarlThePaganT4
01:25.49Amadeolooks good, Q6
01:25.53SoleSWStats is already huge
01:26.00Soleand KTM is huge also
01:26.04Soleimagine those 2 addons in one
01:26.05Soleno thanks
01:26.17Soleunless some serious recoding happened
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01:26.31KarlThePaganktm requires heavy client to client communication
01:26.55ZeusJuicewell ktm has no sync feature right
01:27.05KarlThePaganno it constantly synchs
01:27.08SoleIm curious, where did KTM get the aggro values?
01:27.10Solefor all the abilities?
01:27.17KarlThePaganfrom the client
01:27.17Arrowmastertesting
01:27.21KarlThePaganwell yea
01:27.30BarbanusTesting, the client, and from blizz
01:27.30Solebut theyre EXACT values
01:27.33vhaarrHas KTM fixed their excessive spam of the addon channel?
01:27.37Solehmm
01:27.39KarlThePagana lot of testing
01:27.45BarbanusBlizz has given ALOT of info on it
01:27.49Barbanusjust check wowwiki
01:27.50Arrowmastermost agro values are perty basic
01:27.53AmadeoI'm still hoping for a lightweight AutoBar addon
01:28.00SoleAmadeo: XAD?
01:28.13Amadeois it lightweight? still being developed?
01:28.14SoleAmadeo: AutoRack too I think
01:28.16Q6hmm ktm.. such a cheat lol
01:28.19AmadeoI didn't like AutoRack
01:28.26Amadeonot for that, anyway
01:29.13Solewell Ill begin work on EpeenMeter soon
01:29.19Soleas soon as I plan it out fully
01:29.36Soleand finalize the Antagonist target cast code
01:29.44CIA-1703sayclub * r20447 10FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu/ (Rules.lua StunTimerFu.lua):
01:29.44CIA-17FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu:
01:29.45CIA-17- add Korean localization to .lua
01:29.50KarlThePagani'm deffinately interested in seeing if MSBT's parsing code is usable by other addons
01:30.00CIA-1703antiarc * r20448 10Sanity2/Sanity.lua: Sanity2: Changed the stacking code so that items in different locations (ie, bank and mailbox) don't get condensed into a single stack.
01:30.07SoleIll look at the possibility of adding threat tracking to EpeenMeter
01:31.01KarlThePaganand do the synching right
01:32.04Arrowmastersyncing right?
01:32.15KarlThePaganother than using acecomm - keyframes with detailed information needed for statistics and individual threat values as updated is needed (minimal updates between keyframes)
01:33.10KarlThePagansince it serves 2 purposes - examining statistics etc after the fight, and communicating threat data very quickly
01:33.19KarlThePaganboth goals are at odds with each other
01:35.52AmadeoWas Detox changed to remove all the code besides the live list, or does it all still exist and just currently only function as the live list?
01:36.04de|kipis there a ace2 based addon that shows me timer bars for bunker and graveyars in alterac valley?
01:36.17KarlThePagande|kip - "Capping"
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01:36.19KarlThePaganit's awesome
01:36.24de|kipah, ty :)
01:36.31jalexhigginsanyone know what the blizzard underwater breath timer frame is called?
01:36.51jalexhigginsis it just a castbar?
01:36.58KarlThePaganbreath bar
01:37.02KarlThePagansomething like that
01:37.19KarlThePagani've seen it referred to as the "mirror bar" by castbar mods
01:37.48AmadeoKarlThePagan: Does Capping plug into FuBar?
01:37.51jalexhigginsMirrorTimer.xml?
01:38.03jalexhigginsthx
01:38.55Amadeooh, it's bars, neverminds
01:38.57KarlThePaganAmadeo nope :/ but it's more like Chronometer
01:38.59KarlThePaganyea
01:39.47Kaeltengot a questions for the authors, how often do you find yourself localizing things that could very easily be in other programs?  or identical strings in multiple addons?
01:39.59Amadeois there any addon that removes or allows you to move that damn objectives thing inside BGs and stuff...that shows you resources in AB and such?
01:40.15KarlThePaganVisor
01:40.23KarlThePaganor "MoveAnything!"
01:40.29KarlThePaganI haven't figured out Visor yet
01:40.56Amadeohehe
01:41.17KarlThePaganneeds a frame-finder gui... even a minimal one
01:41.36KarlThePaganjust to click on something and say "this frame is named X parent Y"
01:41.37KaeltenAmadeo: KC_Mobility also
01:41.42KarlThePaganoo
01:41.43KarlThePagani should
01:41.50KarlThePaganace2'd tho?
01:42.16CIA-1703jncl * r20449 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned EngBags
01:42.18KaeltenKarlThePagan: ya
01:42.19KarlThePaganmeh i guess i'll install Ace again... very few mods that I use need it tho
01:42.27KarlThePaganah cool
01:42.31AmadeoKaelten: Is that new?
01:42.46KaeltenAmadeo: nymbia helped me by fleshing out some code I wrote during the alpha
01:42.52Amadeocool!
01:43.07Kaeltenit allows you to move anything on the screen
01:43.25KaeltenKarlThePagan: write a quick fubar program
01:43.58Kaeltenhave it display the name of the frame object on the bar and use tablet to display detailed info
01:44.13KarlThePaganhmmm
01:44.46KarlThePaganI will... add it to the list of things I want to do
01:44.55Kaeltenhehe, I hear ya
01:44.56Kaelten:P
01:45.00KarlThePaganI'm suffering from "shoemaker's children" syndrome
01:45.03Kaelten?
01:45.11KarlThePaganthe shoemaker's children have no shoes
01:45.21CIA-1703antiarc * r20450 10Sanity2/ (SanityDisplay.lua SanityItemCache.lua): Sanity2: Fixed a couple of errors that occur on first login, and fixed a race condition that could result in bank items not updating properly.
01:45.22KarlThePaganhe's too tired of making shoes at work all day
01:45.49ggilbertgo to the shoe store?
01:45.51KarlThePaganthen one day he loses his job and his children have the most beautiful shoes in the town
01:45.59CIA-1703kaelten 07Ace2 * r20451 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
01:45.59CIA-17KC_Items (Ace 2) -
01:45.59CIA-17- Periodic commit
01:45.59CIA-17- All the files had a red ! and I wanted green check marks
01:46.10KarlThePaganlawl
01:46.17KaeltenKarlThePagan: hehe
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01:47.48UrulokeOoh, Ace2 version of KCI?
01:48.02CIA-1703pastamancer * r20452 10Grid/ (GridLocale-deDE.lua GridLocale-frFR.lua GridLocale-zhCN.lua): Grid: Updated strings in translations.
01:48.07UrulokeHow far along is it? :)
01:49.10KaeltenUruloke: I got sellvalue data collection done
01:49.17Kaeltenand am currently working on AuctionSpy
01:49.28KarlThePagansweeeet
01:49.31UrulokeNice
01:49.50UrulokeLooking forward to the release-ready version :)
01:50.20UrulokeKCI is the only addon I got left that depends on Ace
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01:51.37Kaeltennew one wont
01:51.59Kaeltenits Ace2 :)
01:52.06Kaeltenand is going to look a lot better
01:52.06UrulokeYeah, I figured by the (Ace2) tag :)
01:52.12Kaelten:P
01:52.49KarlThePaganI should fill your head with problems i've had with auctioneer
01:52.57KarlThePaganbut i haven't used KCI very much
01:53.03Kaeltencatch me on gtalk or msn
01:53.05Kaelten:)
01:53.09KaeltenI'm always happen to listen
01:53.11KarlThePagan;) i'll play with KCI some
01:53.59SachsG'damn..
01:54.20AmadeoSo everyone uses agUF these days?
01:54.27SachsAmadeo, the cool kids do.
01:54.39AmadeoWhat do the unpopular kids use?
01:54.43KaeltenI'm using IceHud
01:55.04AmadeoI can't get used to HUDs...I tried :(
01:55.04SoleBlizz frames
01:55.07kergothi still want a hud with focus support
01:55.08UrulokeI'm using ArcHUD... surprise eh? ;)
01:55.10kergothnever use aguf on my rogue
01:55.13KarlThePagani'm still temped to go back to a pearl-based frame
01:55.16SachsAmadeo, they use WootSauce.
01:55.17SoleagUF cuases a crash to desktop for me and I cbf figuring out why
01:55.22Urulokekergoth: ArcHUD got focus support now :)
01:55.23MimesisCan anyone comment on the progress of RosterLib-2.1?
01:55.26kergothdoes it?
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01:55.33kergothhmm
01:55.35Soleyerp it does
01:55.38UrulokeI've added focus health and mana at least
01:55.48AmadeoI've wanted an agUF feature for so long...but it doesn't have it, so I can't use it :(
01:55.49kergothusing metahud currently
01:55.50Cynyris there a ace mod to watch honor not tied to fubar?
01:56.12haarmHonorFu
01:56.19haarmyou can run it standalone i think
01:56.20haarm;)
01:56.30Cynyryou can?
01:56.32Amadeodoesn't Blizzard calculate honor for you now?
01:56.44Cynyryes but it's laggy.. not instant
01:56.45haarmnot bonus honor
01:56.52Amadeoyeah
01:56.54haarmit calculates the kills, and bonus at 1am
01:57.01AmadeoI can wait!
01:57.02Amadeo:D
01:57.14Cynyryea.. most of my honor is bonus, from AV and such....
01:57.20UrulokePatience is a virtue ;)
01:57.35AmadeoUruloke: I like the surprise too!
01:57.38haarmnot when you only need like 4k honor and want to grind just enough
01:57.43UrulokeAmadeo: Hehe
01:57.54Cynyractully it's not a big deal, but just trying to figgure out when i can get my GM dagger
01:57.56Amadeowhich BG is best for solo honor gain now?
01:58.02Mimesisab
01:58.09Mimesiser not solo sorry
01:58.11haarmnone? .. i miss solo, i used to get so much
01:58.18CynyrAV still seems the best if you win/come close
01:58.31haarmAV if you get it right
01:58.40UrulokeAV is just zerg rush nowadays...
01:58.43haarmnext WSG 5min 3flags deal,
01:58.44haarmthen AB
01:58.53Amadeoit takes like 15 minutes to get in AV on my server :(
01:59.02haarmsince AB is inherantly harder to get 5 nodes
01:59.02Cynyror you get in my last group and 25 minutes in you still don't have IB
01:59.14MimesisThere is a non ace honor counter that works fine, Called HKCounter, Author: Torrid
01:59.28haarmCynyr, its because the defense tactics started at the base, then they slowly moved closer and closer to the middle
01:59.34haarmand then everyone is back fighting in the middle
01:59.50Mimesisab was best if you 5 capped with a good group, i had my 2x gm daggers in 2 days
01:59.55Cynyrnah it was all of us at SP
02:00.20haarmit was like.. gank them as they come past sp, then gank them as they come past the tower, and eventually you are in the middle again
02:00.22CynyrMimesis: they nerfed honor gains
02:00.27Mimesisyes they did
02:00.41UrulokeI wish they'd nerf it more
02:00.49UrulokePeople get stuff waaay too fast
02:00.50GngskI wish they'd remove pvp from the game
02:00.50Mimesissolely to nerf guild groups like mine who 5 capped every game zz
02:00.52Cynyrnt too too bad, but cause people had 50K+ honor in 2-5 days
02:01.03haarmi got 45k in 3
02:01.08Mimesisi got 30k on wed after the patch
02:01.14Mimesisjues from wed
02:01.17Mimesisjust*
02:01.19Amadeobleh
02:01.24AmadeoI get like 3k a day
02:01.32haarmMimesis, that can only have been AB premades for like 20 hours
02:01.36AmadeoI'm so glad they nerfed Honor gain because of PvP groups
02:01.37MimesisYes
02:01.38Cynyrsame here.. i have 8444 + todays
02:01.40Mimesisexatly 20 hours
02:01.52haarmsince it was AB weekend ;P
02:02.10Mimesishrm it was thursday not wed
02:02.13Mimesisso ya ab weekend
02:02.40Cynyrohh i have a question about the saved varuables files.. can i put what ever i want in there?
02:02.47haarmwell the hardest part about these new weapons, is getting the reagents for enchants! :(
02:02.54Mimesisbut ive gotten my 2x gm daggers and gm pants, so i slowed down a bit
02:03.09CynyrMimesis: you a rogue?
02:03.11UrulokeIf anyone feel like localizing ArcHUD, go right ahead. Those localizations needs to be updated. ;)
02:03.14kergothwhich bg weekend is it this weekend?
02:03.20haarmAV i think
02:03.25cheersick
02:03.29haarmzerg madness
02:03.38cheershehe
02:03.39Cynyri kindda like av....
02:03.51Cynyrnot guild gruops vs my pug
02:03.53cheerswe were getting a group of like... 6 people into AV games & winning em this weekend *grin*
02:03.57UrulokeYikes! It's 3 am! Night people :)
02:04.06cheersnight Uruloke :)
02:04.09Gngsknite
02:04.10Cynyrnight
02:04.17*** part/#wowace Uruloke (n=uruloke@ua-83-227-171-14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
02:04.19MimesisSo, ive got a quick question about diff files, how do i patch them, the merge feature in tortoise Svn is saying the versions don't match. Yet it wont retrieve me the correct version.
02:05.01[VM]AusomeSo did Autobar just...stop working for anyone else?
02:05.05sylvanaarag`: ping
02:05.08[VM]AusomeI cant click any of the buttons on it QQ
02:05.18tlundMimesis: man diff ; man patch ; man svn
02:05.35tlundsorry, "svn help" instead of reading the manpage i guess.
02:05.36Cynyronly if he is on a *nix box
02:05.41haarmtlund: hint -> tortoise svn = no man
02:05.57MimesisOk so, i am now even more confused
02:06.14Cynyrtlund: tortoise == windows
02:06.22haarmhe was trying to be clever and get you to look up things on *nix systems, but failed to notice you're running windows :)
02:06.28CynyrMimesis: short answer read the help
02:06.29MimesisI see
02:06.45tlundfriends dont let friends use windows :)
02:07.05CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r20453 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Fixed typo making all trainer notes show the misc icon.
02:07.09cheersis there a patch utility for windows? /me can't think of one
02:07.11haarmwith all the hype about people getting banned for running wow on linux, i'll sacrifice a few things
02:07.20Cynyrtlund: i try not to... cept find my   a nix version of autocad/solidworks/proE/catia
02:07.23MimesisOk well, i was reading the help files in tortoise and it doesnt seem to want to patch the file regardles of what hoops i jumped through
02:07.31haarmcheers, try the win32 binary of the diff and patch tools :)
02:07.32tlundsoo, TortoiseSVN is a graphical frontend?
02:07.35Cynyrhaarm: noone got banned for just that
02:07.44cheershaarm: I'm comfortably on Mac OS
02:07.49cheersjust wondering
02:07.53Cynyrtlund: intragration into explorer i think i read
02:07.59tlundCynyr: ok
02:08.00haarmtry the <binary format of that os> binary of the diff and patch tools
02:08.02kergothCynyr, yes, they did, but it was accidental, related to their ram scanner and cedega, afaik
02:08.07kergothnot intentional on their part
02:08.11kergothmeh
02:08.19cheershaarm: no need for binary...
02:08.27Cynyrkergoth: they did unban them as well and refund the time
02:08.30kergothnote to self: remember to take chapstick out of pocket before doing laundry
02:08.37cheerskergoth: eeeew
02:08.41kergothchapstick on clothes is a royal pain in the ass
02:08.43cheerskergoth: bet the gf's gonna love that ;)
02:08.53tlundCynyr: my windows box runs more or less only wow, i do everything elseon my laptop that runs debian
02:08.59kergothyeah... she washed my clothes for me, i'd forgotten it in the pocket and she didnt check
02:09.01tlundCynyr: including my day-time work
02:09.08cheers>.<
02:09.16kergothi now have one pair of pants and 2 shirts total without chapstick on them :P
02:09.26cheersMimesis: are you trying to apply a patch, or just update your source?
02:09.27Cynyrtlund: desktop runs gentoo, the lappy dual boots it an winXP for CAD
02:09.38tlundspeaking of which, i have to get up to get for work in about 4 hours, soo ill try to get some sleep now
02:09.50MimesisIm trying to apply a rosterlib patch that is linked in one of Jerry's posts on the wowace forums
02:09.50haarmdual booting is for poor people
02:09.59cheerslol
02:10.13Cynyrhaarm: the lappy is "free", rolled into my tution
02:10.22haarmyou have no possible argument, you have a mac
02:10.23cheersMimesis: aah.
02:10.33cheershaarm: huh?
02:10.35Cynyrhaarm: i do not have a mac...
02:10.41cheersCynyr: no, I do
02:10.43MimesisSee the current rosterlib is giving me 170kb/s increasing mem rate during raids, and he says his version has fixed the problem
02:10.48Cynyrohh okay then nm
02:10.49cheersbut I'm nto sure I would be arguing something
02:11.07haarmabout dual booting :P if you can afford a mac you can afford 2 pcs
02:11.24cheershaarm: shows how much I have you fooled ;)
02:11.36haarmno i just like to generalise
02:11.40haarmit usually winds people up
02:11.43cheerseh
02:11.54cheersit's time to go home, It's gonna take more'n that ;)
02:12.20haarmactually, it's time for a cheese sandwich
02:12.32cheersMimesis: so, you have a couple options. you can find a patch utility on windows
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02:12.46cheersCynyr: enjoy my worldly riches of a buck 25 in quarters
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02:12.53cheersMimesis: if the patch is small you can apply it by hand
02:13.02Cynyrthe macbook is suspoested to be in there
02:13.05cheerssvn merge isn't really for merging diffs
02:13.10cheersCynyr: nah it's @ home, sorry :D
02:13.20Cynyrdamn
02:13.35Mimesisthanks
02:13.42cheersMimesis: :)
02:13.47cheersCynyr: sweet :D
02:13.47Mimesisill try patching it by hand i suppose
02:13.59cheersMimesis: know how to read patch files?
02:14.02cheerser diffs
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02:14.10Mimesisno sir
02:14.16cheersma'am
02:14.18cheersthey're easy
02:14.20Cynyrcheers: it's gonna be a long while.. i have 2-3 semesters left and a 5 month old
02:14.21haarmthey're pretty logical, open one up in notepad
02:14.26haarmi'm sure you'll get it
02:14.28cheersCynyr: good luck!
02:14.29Mimesisim assuming its -- to remove lines
02:14.32Mimesisand ++ to add them
02:14.33haarmyup
02:14.34cheersMimesis: and + to add em
02:14.37haarmcorrect :)
02:14.39cheersand it'll give you line numbers & some context
02:14.53cheersyou're on your way! good luck :D
02:15.00Cynyrcheers: thank :)
02:15.15cheersk, the bf is nagging me & I have a raid, g'night all!
02:15.20Cynyrnight
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02:15.40Mimesisalthough im not sure im going to apply this patch just yet, as the author says that it requires manual patches to every addon the uses rosterlib
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02:15.55Mimesisill most likely wait for rosterlib to be officially fixed
02:16.14Cynyrcan a savedvariuble file contain anything i want? or just lua stuff>
02:16.15CIA-1703nymbia * r20454 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
02:16.15CIA-17Manufac:
02:16.15CIA-17- Squish more lack-of-WDB errors.
02:16.16Cynyr?
02:16.32haarmanything you want as long as you surround it in lua comments ;)
02:16.55Cynyrhaarm: so i could for example dump a html file there>
02:17.17haarmas long as it has lua style comments around it so you don't break the parsing, why not
02:17.23Cynyrhmmm
02:17.40haarmor as long as you have it in lua variables, properly escaped ofc
02:17.48AmadeoI miss old MiniGroup :(
02:18.14Cynyrcause unless someone knows an updated guildtools bankscan that i can already use...
02:18.38haarmwell all that will do is parse the savedvariables and output html
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02:19.20Cynyrwell i need the bankscan part.. to either output to gts's format or just right to html...
02:19.28alcaras_anyone know what the 'Interface\FrameXML\Cooldown.lua:4: attempt to call method 'SetCooldown' (a nil value)' might be caused by?
02:19.44haarmalcaras_, get bugsack
02:19.49haarmand buggrabber
02:20.08alcaras_how will they help?
02:20.15haarmthey'll tell you what called it
02:20.24alcaras_ah
02:20.28alcaras_excellent.
02:20.41CIA-1703Tristan * r20455 10RaidSpy/ (. Core.lua Localization.lua RaidSpy.toc):
02:20.41CIA-17RaidSpy:
02:20.41CIA-17- Initial Commit
02:20.45haarmbrbm im still sans-sandwich
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02:21.55CIA-1703toadkiller * r20456 10AutoBar/ (10 files): (log message trimmed)
02:21.55CIA-17AutoBar:
02:21.55CIA-17- Switch to PeriodicTable-2.0
02:21.55CIA-17- mana & hp thresholds now based on PT so wont get out of sync again
02:21.56CIA-17- Set header framestrata to DIALOG so popups dont popunder
02:21.58CIA-17- Booze category added. Temporary until buffs are overhauled.
02:23.07alcaras_ah thanks haarm
02:23.12alcaras_told me the error is in bongos
02:23.23CIA-1703Tristan * r20457 10RaidSpy/:
02:23.23CIA-17RaidSpy:
02:23.23CIA-17- Set externals
02:23.40alcaras_how do i turn off bugsack's sound?
02:23.42alcaras_it's _really_ annoying
02:23.49nymbiaalcaras: right click -> mute
02:23.55alcaras_ah
02:23.56alcaras_thanks
02:24.03alcaras_i was looking for 'Sound Off' and scanned right over mute
02:24.08nymbiahehe yeah
02:24.16alcaras_<feels noob>
02:24.40alcaras_sigh, still no 2d portraits integrated in aguf
02:24.45alcaras_have to apply the patch each time :-/
02:24.57Amadeoare the 3D portraits working right in agUF yet?
02:25.01Amadeo(no more lag?)
02:25.03alcaras_they are now
02:25.12alcaras_were gray boxes last time i tried earlier today
02:25.14alcaras_so not sure what's up
02:25.29kebinusanhmm keybindings for assing MT
02:25.31alcaras_i think you have to load with them online
02:25.36Nickenyfikenis partypets working in aguf now?
02:25.37kebinusanhmm keybindings for assing MT's get removed from oRA?
02:26.24Amadeoalcaras_: When I switched targets, the 3D image wasn't updating very fast before, so I'm curious if it is now
02:27.59alcaras_not sure amadeo, there's a 1s lag on portrait updates
02:28.12Amadeohm
02:28.13alcaras_i edited my old version of aguf (when i added in 2d portraits) to get rid of that
02:28.20alcaras_but it cycles over 1s
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02:34.38CIA-1703evilelvis * r20458 10eeMon/core.lua: eeMon: removed left-over Compost reference
02:36.31alcaras_stupid question: how do i get rid of the ugly map button that blizzard added?
02:36.51Vegeta]BT[if you find the Answer, PLEASE TELL ME :)
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02:37.56Vegeta]BT[i try to get rid of this damn button for some time now, but nothing i've tried worked :(
02:38.31kebinusanHeh: Passwords are like underwear. You shouldn’t leave them out where people can see them. You should change them regularly. And you shouldn’t loan them out to strangers.
02:38.56Vegeta]BT[lol
02:39.11ToadkillerOk noob svn question (the wiki is down so I cant get to the instructions):  I need to update PeriodicTable-2.0, what do I need to do on my (PC) end with tortoise?
02:39.35Vegeta]BT[Use the WinAceUpdater
02:40.01Vegeta]BT[this Program automatically can update all of your installed Libs and Ace Addons
02:40.02ToadkillerEr no, I need to upload changes to the svn not download them
02:40.24Vegeta]BT[ah ok, then i've got you wrong, sry :)
02:41.05ToadkillerI was ambiguous.  Its some complicated series of checkouts & deletes & stuff I just can nto recall ;-/
02:42.51Vegeta]BT[a have no idea sry
02:43.31alcaras_toadkiller: anyway to get rid of the little red/green drag handle on autobar?
02:43.41vid`yea options
02:43.45vid`you can turn it off
02:43.48alcaras_that doesn't work..
02:44.00alcaras_it's checked to hide drag handle... and it's still there.
02:44.06vid`got latest version?
02:44.10vid`it was broke for awhile for me too
02:44.14alcaras_off of wowi
02:44.17vid`ah thats why
02:44.29vid`use winaceupdater and get newer revision
02:44.38vid`its been fixed for me since yest
02:44.53alcaras_it isn't showing up on winaceupdater?
02:45.32alcaras_or rather, 'wowaceupdater'
02:46.15alcaras_this might have something to do with autobar being listed under a _future_ date on wowace.com/files
02:46.19alcaras_AutoBarr204562006-12-14 01:34:55 -0500
02:46.23alcaras_today is dec13...
02:46.57AmadeoHorde winning AV in 3 minutes and 40 seconds - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR2n4XhRQ58
02:47.25alcaras_i'll grab it from ther
02:47.36alcaras_thanks vid`
02:47.57AmadeoToadkiller: How big is AutoBar on Warmup without the LOD options?
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02:49.28alcaras_is there anyway to get elksbuffbar to grow 'upwards'?
02:50.22Nickenyfikenstring.match(trainer.type, "Trainer") or string.match(trainer.type, "Expert") <-- can this be merged into one match?
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02:54.52CIA-1703xuerian * r20459 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.lua: XLootMaster: Prevent errors when mousing over Random menu once the owner of a cached roll no longer exists.
02:55.14CIA-1703toadkiller * r20460 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc Core.lua libs/):
02:55.15CIA-17AutoBar:
02:55.15CIA-17-Fix externals properties for PeriodicTable-2.0
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02:56.04alcaras_http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6489-HideMapButton.html
02:56.19SogekingThanks.
02:57.53CIA-1703Tristan * r20461 10RaidSpy/Core.lua:
02:57.53CIA-17RaidSpy:
02:57.53CIA-17- Added some debug code (so you can test on yourself)
02:58.00kebinusana constant 25KiB increasing in raids really seems to suck my performance down
02:58.14CIA-1703rophy * r20462 10ParserLib/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
02:58.14CIA-17ParserLib:
02:58.14CIA-17- Removed PreLoadPatternInfo().
02:58.14CIA-17- Removed mini-compost since ParserLib only need 2 fixed tables.
02:58.14CIA-17- Merged optimizer tables into main file.
02:58.16CIA-17- Removed optimizer files.
02:58.18CIA-17- Removed FixGlobalStrings.
02:58.20kebinusanomg
02:58.32kebinusan<PROTECTED>
02:58.37CIA-1703toadkiller * r20463 10AutoBar/Readme.txt:
02:58.37CIA-17AutoBar:
02:58.37CIA-17-Update Readme. (Really just trying to get it to update a new rev).
02:58.50Rophyjust some clean up
03:00.04Nomad_WandererHey.. Can someone recommend a casting bar mod?
03:00.10haarmoCB
03:00.21Nomad_WandererThanks
03:00.27haarmno problem
03:00.28kebinusanI wish I knew whats causing this huge increasing rate since 2.0
03:00.37haarmkebinusan me too
03:00.45haarmI thought it was parser lib, but now i'm not sure
03:00.49kebinusanmy ui normally sits at 26mib but right now its at 42.5 and I dont have swstats
03:01.06Rophydo you mean total mem or mem increase rate?
03:01.06haarmi was getting a grow rate of 35kb/s at patchwerk
03:01.15ToadkillerAlcaras: the config has a checkbox which works in latest version which I am trying to upload.  Meanwhile curse has latest version.
03:01.17CIA-1703nymbia * r20464 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.toc:
03:01.17CIA-17MobMitigation:
03:01.17CIA-17- Removed entries from toc of removed ParserLib files.
03:01.29kebinusanmy increasing rate is 16KiB idle right now
03:01.30kebinusanin naxx
03:01.44RophyParserLib used to be generating tables on each event, when CompostLib removed its functionality, then soon someone fixed that.
03:02.12haarmyea it was still happening after it got a compost heap, which made me think it was something else
03:02.35kebinusanrophy yeah I disabled chronometer, witchhunt and scl and was still having issues
03:03.00haarmkebinusan, have you been getting freezes, and booted back to the logon screen?
03:03.06Toadkilleruhm wth with the date thing?
03:03.17kebinusanhaarm:  not so often
03:03.23kebinusantypically no
03:03.24RophyI'm not sure if KB/s actually affects anything though, since lua5.1 now uses incremental GC?
03:03.28Nomad_Wandereranyone heard of massive lag when people in the same raid as you zone in to an instance? like after a wipe?
03:04.06haarmNomad_Wanderer you need to create a cache dir
03:04.07alcaras_Toadkiller: thanks :) i got the latest version, just wasn't showing up on wowaceupdate b/c of the date
03:04.10haarmWorld of Warcraft\Cache\WDB\enGB  or enUS
03:04.21haarmor whatever language you are
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03:04.37Toadkillerdamn how do I fix this date thing though
03:04.38kebinusanRophy: but my ui memory usage going up from a normal 30MiB in a raid to 46 and growing is an issue if thats accurate
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03:05.33haarmwell i managed to stop myself getting booted to the login screen by doing a GC every 30 secs or so during really event intensive fights
03:06.15haarmbut i have still been getting kicked in really low bandwidth situations, but it seems to be exactly on an event, like.. mounting up, as soon as the casting bar gets to the end, kicked off
03:06.51Nomad_Wandererhmm... other ideas? the people who have really bad zone lag do have a cache dir like you stated.... But it's empty..
03:06.58KirkburnPerhaps setting your allowed UI usage to unlimited is a problem?
03:07.08kebinusanKirkburn: hmm
03:07.09Nomad_WandererThey are saying it's ora2, and i know its not ;(
03:07.12haarmNomad_Wanderer, is it for the right locale ?
03:07.15kebinusanyou know that is an interesting idea
03:07.34kebinusanworth a shot to change it to a cap
03:07.39KirkburnYeah
03:07.40haarmthe fact that it's empty means it's not correct
03:07.59nymbiaif they set up a cache dir and it's empty after quitting the game, they entered the directory names wrong.
03:08.26kebinusanI'll try it after this pul I guess
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03:13.20Mimesisguys
03:13.37Mimesisthe huge increasing rates of mem in raids is rosterlib
03:14.00Funkeh`how do you know?
03:14.16Mimesisbecause i get 170kb/s with it on, and 5 without it
03:14.21ToadkillerAmadeo: AutoBar is 562 kB with warmup
03:14.32Nomad_WandererConstantly forcing gc seems to work as a workaround
03:14.44Funkeh`Mimesis: is this with the latest version that ckknight put up today? and optimized?
03:14.53kebinusanrosterlib eh
03:15.00Mimesisi just downloaded the new rosterlib 5 minutes ago
03:15.09Mimesisit does not seem to be optimized in any way
03:15.18kebinusanlemme go dig what addons Ihave that use rosterlib
03:15.23Funkeh`maybe that is the problem
03:15.24Mimesisat least the change notes said nothing about it
03:15.30Funkeh`since oRA2 uses rosterlib
03:15.51Mimesisit makes tables for every addon that uses it
03:15.52rw3any API function to get spell damage?
03:15.54Mimesisor something
03:16.00Nomad_Wanderergrep -r *.toc rosterLib
03:16.08Nomad_Wandereroops wrong window
03:16.12Soullesslol
03:16.13kebinusanheh just did that too
03:16.39Nomad_Wandereryou need a -i in there too.. :p
03:16.45Funkeh`maybe you should have a word wiht ckknight about it
03:17.30Mimesishrm so
03:17.44Mimesiskust looked at the toc and it says its using a chache now
03:18.02Nomad_WandererANy ideas why the rez monitor in Ora2 is flakey in2.0?
03:18.12Mimesisi havent had a chance to raid exactly with the new version, but i just disabled it anyways
03:18.23FryGuy-isn't it grep -ri rosterlib *.toc?
03:18.31Funkeh`Nomad_Wanderer: your lucky its working
03:18.36Funkeh`ctra one doesn't work at all
03:18.46FryGuy-mine doesn't work though :(
03:18.46FryGuy-F:\World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons>grep -ri rosterlib *.toc
03:18.46FryGuy-grep: *.toc: No such file or directory
03:18.50Mimesisi disabled ora2 because of rosterlib issues
03:18.50Funkeh`the only problem with the ora one is when someone cancels a res, they all cancel
03:19.06kebinusangrep -ri rosterlib */*.toc
03:19.16Funkeh`but if no one cancels it wil be working fine
03:19.28Mimesisis it even that usefill
03:19.36kebinusanerr probably dont need r then
03:19.43Mimesisusefull*, just get your healers to make a rez macro
03:19.53kebinusanjust grep -i rosterlib */*.toc
03:19.54Funkeh`err no
03:19.55Funkeh`noooo
03:20.02Funkeh`not going back to the days of macros thanks
03:20.09Funkeh`the ol dark days
03:20.29CIA-1703Tristan * r20465 10Tankalyze/Core.lua:
03:20.29CIA-17Tankalyze:
03:20.29CIA-17- Lifegiving Gem is no longer working so commented that part out for now
03:20.49Mimesismacros work just fine imo
03:21.05Mimesisim just glad cooldown timers still work in ora2
03:21.18Funkeh`wether they work or not isn't the question, wether they suck is :)
03:21.50Mimesisheh
03:22.08Caer-oozlingdoes oCB feature the enemy casting bar yet?
03:22.28Mimesisi suppose, id actually prefer to just look at chat to see whos rezzing who rather than take up space with rez bars for every rezzer
03:22.59kergoththat isnt oCB's job.  use antagonist
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03:23.22Funkeh`its taste really
03:23.27Funkeh`id rather not have my chatbox spammed
03:23.35Funkeh`and most of my guild would find it irritating
03:23.44Funkeh`its nice to have a box in the corner you cna look at when you need
03:23.51Funkeh`can*
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03:26.13ToadkillerThe new macros are quite usable though.  After /unmount support in the next patch they will be perfect for druid stances anyway
03:26.13VelkynIs the ace-updater currently working?
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03:26.52kebinusanyeah definately rosterlib it seems, my increasing rate ooc is 0.6 kib atm
03:27.09Funkeh`using the latest kebinusan?
03:27.11Qshadowpyour topic has http://www.wowace.com/files in it, twice.
03:27.19Qshadowp:(
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03:27.22kebinusanFunkeh`: should be yas
03:27.29Funkeh`:/
03:27.33kebinusanjust did a svn up like an hour ago
03:28.01Funkeh`wheres ck when you need him, dc'ing again?
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03:28.06Solehi
03:28.14Funkeh`hey
03:28.25CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r20466 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/ (DemonTrainer.lua Trainer.lua TrainerNotes.lua): FuBar_TrainerFu: Notes for any trainers should be added when you talk to them, even if you can't train anything. (i.e rogue talking to a warlock Trainer)
03:30.42navvis fubar
03:30.47navv's honorfu fixed for new honor?
03:30.52VelkynAnyone know if WowAceUpdater is going to work?
03:31.29VelkynNavv:  Seems to be working for me.  Its not dead, but its deffinantly calculating the honor earned based off the messages recieved in game.
03:31.53navvmmk, thank you
03:31.55Mimesiswhy do you need /unmount?
03:32.17CrisCr0ssisnt bagnon ace?
03:32.19Mimesis./cancelaura works fine doesnt it
03:32.19VelkynNavv:  Err... I meant to say "its not dead on"
03:32.28TullerCrisCr0ss: no
03:32.34CrisCr0ssdang
03:32.42CrisCr0ssui central is all fishy right now
03:32.44TullerCrisCr0ss: that's not to say its not efficient :P
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03:32.54CrisCr0ssoh no i use bagnon i love it :P
03:32.57CrisCr0ssi was jus wondern
03:33.03CrisCr0ssgrats on the wrk tull :P
03:33.07ckknighthey all
03:33.15TullerCrisCr0ss: its on all three major mod sites
03:33.16kebinusan'llo
03:33.24CrisCr0ssi know but i like easy quick upating
03:33.31CrisCr0ssui central + winaceupdater make life easy
03:33.36CrisCr0ssbut uicentral is fuckd
03:33.43CrisCr0ssdoesnt detect installd mods
03:34.01Mimesishi ckk, are you the person who updated Rosterlib todya
03:35.09ckknightyes.
03:35.40kebinusanseems to still be alot of increasing KiB while idle in raids
03:36.06ckknightall I did was make it use a proper cache for tables
03:36.13ckknightI didn't change the structure of it to be better
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03:36.34ckknightand it's possible that it's not Roster-2.0 that's causing the increase
03:37.23Xueriankebinusan: Watch it with LuaProfiler :p
03:37.41CrisCr0ssum guys what does one do now that reagent data doesn't wrk?
03:37.50kergothuse mendeleev
03:37.56CrisCr0ssit better?
03:38.01kergothmuch
03:38.06CrisCr0ssreallly
03:39.30CrisCr0sshmm ne AceReplacement for enhancd QuestLog
03:39.34CrisCr0ssit seems it has gotten bloated
03:39.48AmadeoQuestsFu for FuBar
03:39.55Funkeh`well if anyone has time to test, disable all your rosterlib addons, turn off rosterlib lod. see if that affects anything
03:39.58haarmhey it's my turn for a question!!
03:40.01CrisCr0sslol
03:40.03kergothmonkeyquest/monkeyquestlog works well too, though it isnt ace
03:40.04haarmwe have any tradeskill libs ?
03:40.17kergothhaarm, Stitch-1.0, its what StitchUI uses
03:40.23CrisCr0sslastly any replacement for MasterTradeSkills
03:40.24Amadeokergoth: What about QuestIon? That was my favorite before all these new mods
03:40.25kergoththough i havent looked at it much
03:40.31ckknightFunkeh`, it's possible that it's an addon using Roster-2.0 but not Roster-2.0 itself
03:40.33haarmok, I'm working on an Ace version of RecipeRadar
03:40.38CrisCr0ssor does mendeleev do that?
03:40.42ckknighthaarm, k
03:40.50haarmjust researching some tradeskill stuff
03:41.14Funkeh`ckknight: i mean doing that, if the kbps is standard with only rosterlib enabled, and the rosterlib addons disabled, that would prove it was not rosterlib
03:41.27ckknighttrue
03:41.35Amadeokergoth: I used to use this a long time ago, looks like it's still being updated - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6476-Quest-I-OnWoW2.0update.html
03:42.08kergothtalk to crisscross, he's the one looking for a replacement for enhancedquestlog.  i'm already happy with monkeyquestlog, wont be switching :P
03:42.08Funkeh`if it is not rosterlib though its most likely oRA2. since the few people that have this problem say its fixed by disabling that
03:42.22XuerianDoes rosterlib monitor the 'roster' without any addons requesting it?
03:42.29CrisCr0ssrecipieradr is nice
03:42.36CrisCr0ssid like to try an ace version :P
03:42.41ckknightyes, Xuerian
03:42.52Xuerianckknight: Hm... learn something new every day.
03:43.02Amadeokergoth: Bah, Monkeyquest!
03:43.08kergoth:)
03:43.21kergothmonkeyquest alone is soso, but i really like monkeyquestlog
03:43.28CrisCr0ssdoes mandeleev replace > http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2146
03:43.38Amadeo242k compressed!
03:43.41Amadeowhat's the log do?
03:44.08Amadeoor is that just the frame with quests in it?
03:44.10kergothCrisCr0ss, mendy covers almost all of that
03:44.29kergothits the monkeyqeust version of the quest log, never pull up the blizzard one at all
03:44.32kergothnothing fancy, just basic
03:44.43kergoththough it highlights important things in the text like locations, which is useful
03:44.47AmadeoI see
03:44.55AmadeoI used MonkeyQuest for a long time a very long time ago
03:45.03kergothsame
03:45.03Amadeoswitched to QuestIon for reasons I now forget
03:45.11Amadeoand now I use nothing
03:45.12Amadeohaha
03:45.14kergoththen i went eql3 and uberquest and..
03:45.21kergothand somehow ended up back
03:45.27kebinusanI just use questfu
03:45.34AmadeoI got used to pressing L in beta, so I'm back to defaults
03:45.37ckknightquestfu works for me
03:45.44kergothAmadeo, http://www.toctastic.net/wp/wp-images/media/mkql_alpha_big.png
03:45.52kergoththough that doesnt show the highlighting
03:45.55Amadeooh that's really neat
03:46.12CrisCr0ssEQL3 is kinda bloated with the monkeyquest feature
03:46.13haarmoh, who was looking at tokenised strings for item data instead of tables ?
03:46.26haarmwould like to hear how that turned out
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03:46.37ckknighthaarm, Kaelten
03:46.42kergothAmadeo, http://www.toctastic.net/wp/wp-images/media/mkql_alpha_big2.jpg is better, showing some of the highlighting
03:46.45kergothside by side comparison
03:46.55AmadeoI admit, that's pretty sweet
03:47.08haarmKaelten: ping :)
03:47.10kergoththats why i never open the blizzard quest log anymore.  wish i could free up whatever ram its using :P
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03:47.16Funkeh`ckknight: and what if it turns out to be rosterlib? :/
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03:47.27Amadeohaha
03:47.29MimesisOh
03:47.34Mimesisi forget to mention
03:47.35AmadeoI wish you could do that with all Blizzard addons
03:47.37ckknightFunkeh`, then the internal structure will need to change or something
03:47.46AmadeoIn fact, why don't they let you?
03:48.04Mimesisim running stanalone libs, disabling rosterlib in my addons menu fixes the ui mem problems
03:48.20ckknightMimesis, but is it Roster-2.0's fault or the addons which use it?
03:48.35Funkeh`great
03:48.39Mimesiswell to be honest i couldnt say from my testing approah
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03:48.50Funkeh`now to sift through all my addons, find which use roster, and turn them off :P
03:49.01Funkeh`cya next year
03:49.07ckknightgrep -r Roster-2.0 *
03:49.15Mimesisbut it is definately and addon using abusing rosterlib or rosterlib itself
03:49.17kebinusanfunkey  grep -i roster */*.toc
03:49.22AmadeoI was having so much problems with performance that I got rid of probably 80% of my addons
03:49.35CrisCr0ssim so addon dependent
03:49.41CrisCr0sslol i cannot function w/o em
03:49.45ckknightmaybe I should write a quest addon.
03:49.48CrisCr0ssi hate defualt UI
03:49.51ckknightwith strippers
03:49.54CrisCr0ssckknight do it :P
03:49.55ckknightand blackjack!
03:49.58CrisCr0sslol
03:50.01[Liquidor]<3 default ui
03:50.05Amadeockknight: No, RIM will sue you
03:50.09ckknightRIM?
03:50.20ckknightlikely, I'd manipulate the default UI to my whim.
03:50.28ckknightlike I like to do
03:50.35[Liquidor]ckknight: create a package
03:50.43ckknightpackage of what?
03:50.55ckknightcandy?
03:50.55[Liquidor]Addons (like Photek and others)
03:50.58ckknightoh
03:50.59ckknightwhy?
03:50.59AmadeoRIM (BlackBerry) is suing Samsung for trying to name a cell phone "Blackjack" because it sounds too much like "BlackBerry" :P
03:50.59[Liquidor]A compi.
03:51.12[Liquidor]Dunno, because you're looking for something to do.
03:51.18kergothAmadeo, hahah, what the hell are they smoking
03:51.20ckknightno, I have stuff to do
03:51.21kergoth~emulate bender
03:51.23purlBite my shiny, metal ass!
03:51.23[Liquidor]Make it 100% Ace
03:51.24ckknightCartographer's not finished.
03:51.28Amadeokergoth: I know, it's hilarious!
03:51.30Velkyn<--- noob here:  I am trying to use the ace_updater and I am unsure of what it means w/ w/o externals.. can someone help?
03:51.36ckknightand I already kinda have a compilation
03:51.41Xueriankergoth: Don't you just love IP fights?
03:51.45ckknightevery week, I zip up my addons folder and send it to my brother
03:51.49AmadeoI'm trying to find the link
03:51.56ckknight;-)
03:51.56CrisCr0ss@ckknight i know how u feel
03:52.05CrisCr0ssi do same thing with my cousin
03:52.10CrisCr0ssAddon folder + saved variables
03:52.13CrisCr0sssince i use his account
03:52.13Amadeohere it is - http://www.betanews.com/article/RIM_Sues_Samsung_Over_BlackJack/1165883828
03:52.19Rophyis there any good way to find out if it is safe to hook a certain Blizzard function ?
03:52.24nymbiaVelkyn: without externals means the embedded libraries will not be included.
03:52.38CrisCr0ss@rophy post on blizz site?
03:52.46nymbiatry it and see imo ;)
03:52.51RophyI'm using the trick of "summon a pet during combat"
03:52.54VelkynSo should I go with or without them?
03:52.56Rophywonder if there is better ones
03:53.18CrisCr0ssi wonder if there is a bandage/smartrestore addon replacement
03:53.46Mimesis"petactionbarframe" 43kb/s
03:53.46CrisCr0sshttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2863
03:53.48VelkynWow!  Whoever put together this auto-updater thing is the shit!
03:53.52MimesisWTF is that
03:53.58VelkynI think I just cried a tear of joy.
03:54.01CrisCr0ss@velkyn yes they are <3
03:54.08CrisCr0ssthe SVN thing was a pain in the ass
03:54.09Mimesiswtf is peractionbar frame doing 43kb/s on my rogue
03:54.45kergothckknight, you should do what i do, just shovel it all into svn and let them update from it.  or have them use WAU.  either way it should reduce manual work :P
03:55.07ckknightmaybe I should get him to use WAU
03:56.54CrisCr0ssne 1 know of a http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2863 replacement..
03:57.00CrisCr0ssthats the last 2.0 mod in eed to replace :P
03:58.24Velkyn"SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 requires Gratuity-2.0"?
03:58.40Benumbedcriscr0ss unsure that will work when in combat anymore
03:58.56CrisCr0sswhy not?
03:59.01CrisCr0ssits just like a macro to cast bandaid
03:59.03CrisCr0ssor drink a pot
03:59.06Mimesispretty sure that mod is impossible
03:59.15Benumbedcause in combat, things are locked
03:59.20CrisCr0ssall things?
03:59.22Benumbedand if/then/else got nerfed
03:59.30CrisCr0ssim sure u can use bandaids in combat
03:59.46Benumbedyou cant pick spells depending on lvl no more, so I would guess you cant do that
03:59.50CrisCr0ssbasically i want a macro that will use the best bandaid based on my health
04:00.05VelkynI dont think its a matter of being able to use bandages, its having a macro/ui make in-combat decesions for you.
04:00.05Benumbedlike I said, think its impossible
04:00.14CrisCr0ssnooooo
04:00.22Benumbedyeah what velkyn said, its making a decision for you
04:00.26CrisCr0sswhy?
04:00.28Viper_0000anyone know am od that adds the xp bar under your portrait, under the hp + mana?
04:00.29CrisCr0ssthats soo gay
04:00.33VelkynThe basically nuked anything that would choose "this or that" for you.
04:00.35Benumbedbecause your letting it choose which bandage
04:00.36Viper_0000i had it before, but can't remember anymore
04:00.45CrisCr0ssPerl Unit frames?
04:00.57CrisCr0ssor X perl not sure
04:01.11CrisCr0sswow thats gay... why would they nerf?
04:01.15Legoroldecursive
04:01.24Viper_0000http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/small1037.jpg - kind of like that
04:01.25Benumbedbecause they want you do make decisions, not the mods
04:01.32Benumbeddo=to
04:01.32LegorolLet me try and explain:
04:01.44LegorolThe UI system and AddOns were *meant to* aid you in displaying information in creative ways
04:01.53CrisCr0sswell is there ne way to make keys to eat food/drink/use bandaid
04:01.55LegorolIt wasn't intended that AddOns make *decisions* for you based on the available information
04:02.18Benumbedyeah you keybind things, but cant make it make the decision or change the keybind on the fly
04:02.29Legorolfor over 2 years, Blizzard couldn't come up with a good way of retaining the existing flexibility of AddOns, whilst stopping them from being able to make decisions
04:02.32Legorolbut finally they have
04:02.35CrisCr0sshow would i keybind it w/o puttin on action bar?
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04:02.51Benumbednot sure, I know nurfed found a way
04:02.55LegorolCrisCr0ss: there is an API for that, currently no default UI way of doing it
04:02.57VelkynI believe the macros for using bag slots still work.
04:03.03Benumbeddunno of another mod or havent seen rather
04:03.10VelkynDont they?
04:03.17CrisCr0sslook like ima need to use autobar..
04:03.29Legorolyou can do /script SetBindingItem("KEY", "itemname")
04:03.30Benumbedyeah think so
04:03.39GoogleSearch~GoogleSearch
04:03.45purlmethinks googlesearch is a Google Search Bot. Type !googlehelp to display commands.
04:03.45Legorolthat will directly bind a particular key to the use of an item
04:03.59Funkeh`just put it in a macro /use major healing potion
04:04.01Funkeh`etc
04:04.05Benumbedspeaking of which, did they nerf feed pet?
04:04.09Funkeh`then stick it on your Ui
04:04.11Benumbedi noticed its still broke in autobar
04:04.11LegorolFunkeh`: you still need to bind a key to the macro ;-)
04:04.23Benumbedwont feed pet when I right click on the feed pet on autobar
04:04.26CrisCr0ss@lego will i need to put that on actionbar
04:04.28LegorolFunkeh`: in that case, might as well drag the healing pot directly on the action bar
04:04.33CrisCr0ssor can i leave it in macro menu
04:04.39LegorolCrisCr0ss: no, you type that command once
04:04.49CrisCr0sso in chat..
04:04.52Legorolthat sets up the binding, just like you would bind a key to an action button then it stays
04:05.04Funkeh`Legorol: im talking about mutiple actions
04:05.08CrisCr0ssah an then i can overwrite by retyping it..
04:05.10Funkeh`multiple*
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04:05.22Funkeh`i thought that was the subject of conversation was
04:05.42Zerylhi, does anyone know if the [button:x] modifiers work for bartender 3?
04:05.51Legorolno, CrisCr0ss asked if there is a way to bind a key to an item's use without having to drag the item on the action bar
04:05.55Benumbedfunkeh` did feed pet get nerfed since on same topic? =P
04:06.07CrisCr0ss*/script SetBindingItem("ctrl+c", "Raw Snapjaw")
04:06.11CrisCr0sswould that be right
04:06.15Legoroltry it ;-)
04:06.16CrisCr0ssor would the item b a link?
04:06.26Legorolno, it should work fine with just the name
04:06.30Legoroli never used it, so i don't know
04:06.42CrisCr0ssi guess ill giv it a go
04:06.50CrisCr0ssi jus need 1 for bandaid/food
04:06.56Funkeh`Benumbed: excuse me?
04:07.20CrisCr0sshes talkn bout those auto feed pet addons
04:07.24Benumbedyou know how on autobar there was feedpet and it would list food like you could eat
04:07.29CrisCr0sso
04:07.31CrisCr0ssnvm
04:07.32Benumbedbut if you clicked on it, it would go to pet
04:07.43Benumbeddoesnt work no more, I sit down and eat
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04:07.59Benumbedjust wondered if bug in autobar or that function got nerfed
04:08.03CrisCr0sshttp://www.techweb.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196603918&cid=RSSfeed_TechWeb
04:08.09CrisCr0ssomg skype all over north america 30$ a year
04:08.34Zerylcan anyone tell me why -- /cast [button:1, target=target] Abolish Poison; [button:2, target=target] Remove Curse -- wouldn't work?
04:08.44Funkeh`Benumbed: ive never used that addon, but i think thats an example of the addon making the decision for you, wether you eat it or the pet
04:08.55Benumbedyeah true
04:09.57LegorolZeryl: does [button] take 1, 2, 3 etc. or Left, Right, Middle
04:10.11ZerylI think it's supposed to be 1 2 3
04:10.12Legorolanother random guess: is 2 the middle or the right button?
04:10.23Zerylit doesn't work on any button press on the button
04:10.42Benumbed2 is right, 3 is middle
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04:11.48ZerylThe default button is 1, the Left Mouse button. Note that when you activate a macro via a keybinding, it treats it like a Left Mouse button click. The numbered buttons are: 1 or LeftButton 2 or RightButton 3 or MiddleButton 4 or Button4 5 or Button5 ... or any of the buttons remapped by the secure state headers. I don't know what this last bit means, to be honest, I'm simply quoting slouken.
04:12.03Zerylthat's in the wiki, is it posisble that bartender3 doesn't register them or something?
04:12.18BenumbedI dont think button1 has to be labled either
04:12.33Benumbedits the ending action and button1 takes that action
04:13.29Benumbed./cast [button:2, target=target] Remove Curse [target=target] Abolish Poison;
04:13.32Benumbedtry that
04:13.55Zerylit alwayscasts abolish, no matter which key i press
04:14.07Benumbedsec I test on mage with spells
04:14.41Zerylthanks.  i wrote it, and it didn't work, so i checked the druid forums, and it says the exact same thing i had wrote :(
04:15.24Mimesisbutton modifiers have not been working on bartender3 for me
04:15.28Mimesisif you are using that
04:16.06Zerylok, it's bartender 3 then
04:16.19Mimesis:P
04:16.34Zerylanyone know how to fix it *boggle*?
04:16.36Arrowmasteri think you have to know the special names to use with any actionbar addon
04:17.27TainThis is probably my favorite Mac/PC commercial.  "Please be a C++ GUI Programming Guide!"
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04:17.58FreedonDamn, PerfectRaid nor oUF are updated yet.
04:18.04FreedonMy UI feels so uncomplete!
04:18.06Freedon:O
04:18.23Benumbedhenge not updated and broke still making me qq
04:18.27Freedonbtw, anyone know if a Visor2GUI is being in the works?
04:18.56TainHaven't seen nor heard anything myself, Freedon
04:19.09CIA-1703beerke * r20470 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua:
04:19.09CIA-17KingOfTheJungle :
04:19.09CIA-17- Check if pet is dead before bringing up feed button
04:19.12TainHowever I did just learn of the existance of this and am giddy.  http://store.valvesoftware.com/productshowcase/productshowcase_HL2HeadCrabHat.html
04:19.16FreedonTain, why'd you stop developing Visor?
04:19.31FreedonROFL
04:19.38TainI lost my smile.
04:19.44Zeryloh, that's sweet
04:19.49Benumbedheh
04:19.58Benumbedacegui seems broke still also
04:21.13Mimesisdoes everyone else cpu run at 100% in wow, ive been getting some strange game hiccups all day
04:21.22Freedonhttp://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/ui/24112006.png
04:21.28FreedonDamn, haste's ui is so sweet
04:21.36Arrowmastermine always runs at 100% in wow
04:21.47Mimesisi dont like his ui
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04:22.17Mimesishrm is there a damagemeters skin file in skinner
04:22.20haarmmmm, a fixed width font.. why didn't I think of that
04:22.32haarmty haste :D
04:22.58Solehaste ebays!
04:23.01Solelook at his gold!
04:23.15[Liquidor]Whenever we get a new patch do they update the addon kit then?
04:23.27Benumbedrl friend has 27k gold =\
04:23.28Q6are fubar mail and gmail mod that different that you need both?
04:23.29Freedon:O
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04:24.05TainMailFu and gmail are completely different, aren't they?
04:24.05Benumbedgmail is like mass mail, fumail just estimates mail
04:24.22Freedonoh shit
04:24.24Freedondamn
04:24.26Benumbedestimates as in estimates whats in your mailbox via what it sees in chat
04:24.28Freedonlook at the time
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04:29.49kebinusanwhats TrainerFu do exactly?
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04:33.13CIA-17Antagonist
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04:34.41Soleyo ck, whats tablet look like?:
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04:36.56haarmyou mean what does it literally look like sole?
04:37.44haarmor the code for one
04:37.50Soleliterally
04:38.17haarmyou know something like oRA2, where you hover over the fubar icon, and it drops down a list of maintanks, and you can hover over them and click to set them
04:38.21haarmlike that :)
04:38.27Solehmm
04:38.34[Liquidor]Any of you ever noticed and maybe know of the MinigameFrame ?
04:38.59haarm[Liquidor] not yet implemented, if it's ever going to be implemented at all
04:39.10haarmthere's API functions for it too
04:39.31[Liquidor]ye I noticed some patches ago but never really questioned it
04:39.45ckknightnymbia, do anything fun with the side tablets yet?
04:40.22Nickenyfikenckknight: hmm i only get errors when im using  Cartographer_Notes:IterateNearbyNotes()
04:40.31ckknightwhat errors?
04:41.22nymbiackknight: i stopped last night after i ran into the showing problem and havent had time to do anything but some quick tests so far tonight.  were you thinking of changing something with them?
04:41.28Nickenyfikenckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/3538
04:41.39ckknightnymbia, the showing problem is fixed.
04:41.42ckknightafaik
04:41.56ckknightjust wanted to know progress
04:42.21nymbiackknight: yeah it's working great. I've got it pulling a list etc, all i really need to do now is flesh out the lines.
04:42.40ckknightthe scrolling isn't working 100% yet.
04:42.40SachsAnyone know a site that has a list of how much the PvP gear costs?
04:42.51ckknightbut if you make < 44 lines, you should be fine
04:43.10ckknightcurrently it overflows a bit
04:43.28[Liquidor]TicTacToeFrame is also present in the API :S
04:43.35Arrowmasteranybody know if they nerfed patchs of elemental water? they dont seem to be respawning for me
04:43.40[Liquidor]Could it be they test the API with that game?
04:43.55Solenymbia: can you show me a screenshot of some tablets youve made? I wanna see the full potential of it, currently Im looking at the API and it looks tantalizing
04:44.08ckknightthanks, Nickenyfiken
04:44.10haarmquick question about AceLocale, does it nil out unused locales so memory is saved at the next GC?
04:44.18ckknightyes, haarm
04:44.24nymbiaSole: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Image:GrindStatus1.jpg
04:44.25haarmty :)
04:44.27ckknighthaarm, unless debugging is enabled
04:44.37Nickenyfikenckknight: the coordinates i pass is kinda long... like 16 decimals
04:44.45ckknightthat isn't an issue.
04:44.46nymbiaSole: but that one's pretty simple.
04:44.52CIA-1703ckknight * r20477 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - fixed global `height` typo
04:45.01Nickenyfikenckknight: oki
04:45.04ckknightNickenyfiken, lua is accurate up to 17 decimal places
04:45.33Solehmm
04:45.51Soullessanybody know a lot about anchoring?
04:46.05Solethanks nymbia
04:46.31CIA-1703devla * r20478 10SimpleCombatLog/ (. config/):
04:46.31CIA-17SimpleCombatLog:
04:46.31CIA-17-Removed obsolete Config folder
04:47.06Soullessanybody know if you can anchor to 0x0 objects?
04:48.15ckknightnot sure about that
04:48.23Soullesslike if i have it setup for 2 rows of buffs, and 2 rows fo debuffs, each anchored to the line above it, and the target has zero buffs, can you set the size of the buffs to be 0x0 and it anchors will still function (and move the debuffs flush with what the buffs were attached to)
04:48.26Soullessif that makes sense
04:48.31Soullessshould prob make a picture
04:48.56ckknightyou could set it to 1e-5 and it'd work
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04:48.59ckknightI know that
04:49.00CIA-1703funkydude * r20479 10Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: remove babble from toc
04:49.11Viper_0000finally, the sexi titan stuff is updated for BTS 2.0
04:49.17Soullessthanks ckknight
04:49.19Stavmarnymbia are you there?
04:49.20Viper_0000lol, /me deletes fubar
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04:49.24ckknightViper_0000, ...
04:49.35[Liquidor]script to message() the frame name of the frame you're hovering?
04:49.44Viper_0000fubar looks... t3h fugly, and it's mostly made up of half asses addons, lol
04:49.45ckknight[Liquidor], /print GetMouseFocus()
04:49.58Soullessfubar shits on titan panel
04:49.59ckknightViper_0000, you do realize I'm the author, right?
04:50.08Eternally777ckknight; is it possible to add a feature to AceEvent that calls a function the next time a specific even happens?  Almost like scheduling an event, but not scheduling by time.
04:50.09[Liquidor]Will print which and how many variables, ckknight ?
04:50.09ckknightand you can skin it however you want
04:50.12CIA-1703devla * r20480 10SimpleCombatLog/ (. Libs/ SimpleCombatLog.toc):
04:50.12CIA-17SimpleCombatLog:
04:50.12CIA-17-Updated TOC
04:50.12CIA-17-Redid Externals
04:50.12Stavmartwo times it shits on titan
04:50.24Viper_0000im keeping it rhough >.<
04:50.26KirkburnJust two?
04:50.27ckknightEternally777, sorry, already in
04:50.28Viper_0000i need it for a bunch of other ace plugins
04:50.33ckknight[Liquidor], a bajillion.
04:50.35Eternally777Aww man :(
04:50.38Eternally777Are you sure?
04:51.01ckknightEternally777, AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):RegisterEvent("SomeEvent", function() --[[ do something ]] end)
04:51.04ckknightthat what you mean?
04:51.23Kirkburnckknight, is it possible to do simple FuBar backgrounds? i.e. block colours, without textures?
04:51.40ckknightKirkburn, you could make a black texture...
04:51.42Stavmaryou there
04:51.51StavmarNymbia?
04:52.04KirkburnOkay, suggestion then - gif the ability to pick colours from a colour chart :)
04:52.14ckknighthrm
04:52.15Soullessckknight: 1e-5 is that exact syntax for that number? i've never messed with numbers like that in lua
04:52.25Kirkburnckknight, so basically have an option for no texture
04:52.27nymbiaStavmar: ?
04:52.31ckknightSoulless, yea, it's equivalent to 1 * 10^-5
04:52.38ckknightKirkburn, hrm, doable
04:52.38KirkburnAnd to turn on a background colour
04:52.40kebinusanping ag
04:52.45Stavmaryeah i was playing around with your mod all night
04:52.45kebinusanwho ag
04:52.47kebinusanbleh
04:52.50kebinusanno ag
04:52.52Soullessright, just wasn't sure if you had to do something funky for it to work, ty
04:52.55Kirkburnckknight, I would love if you could =)
04:53.02ckknightlove me?
04:53.03ckknightdown there?
04:53.04ckknighthrm?
04:53.11kebinusanI need something to filter debuffs on a target so I can make sure raid curses are up
04:53.17kebinusan40 debuff slots its too hard to tell
04:53.21KirkburnYes, I would kiss your shoes, ckknight.
04:53.30ckknightthat's all I ever ask for.
04:53.36Kirkburnhehe
04:53.44Stavmarnymbia: and I got only one error when i started in Bg's on line 633 in teh .lua file from Grindstatus. when i hovered over teh fubar area it mentioned something about arithmatic error
04:53.48[Liquidor]Haha oh yeah: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3172/wowonid-minigame/
04:53.51Funkeh`ckknight: what about the time wiht the cookies?
04:53.56Funkeh`with*
04:54.01ckknightoh, that's true
04:54.01haarmckknight, probably a quick fix, but if you detach a fubar while autohide is on, it dissapears, and you have to turn off autohide and reload your ui to find it
04:54.02Viper_0000i just wish fubar, looked a little nicer :(
04:54.18ckknighthaarm, lemme test
04:54.22StavmarNymbia: I was in AB with the Arathor reputation being collected if that matters
04:54.22ckknightViper_0000, get FuTextures
04:54.26Viper_0000i have it
04:54.34Viper_0000still doesn't look as nice, and the icons aren't as nice looking either
04:54.43nymbiaStavmar: yeah i ran into that pvping today too.  It's fixed. ;)
04:54.49Stavmarok thanks
04:54.51nymbiasure
04:54.53ckknightmaybe you're just one to cry for sour grapes?
04:55.20StavmarI will get the latest, I can tell you that in the expansion your mods will rise above many others, so great work, I t is already helping me now
04:55.28haarmwell not sure about havign to turn autohideTop off first, but my sequence of events was... right click top fubar, detach it... notice it's missing... /fubar off the autohdeTip... reloadui, and then it was back on screen
04:55.49nymbiaStavmar: thanks :D
04:55.55haarmand it's time for bed because i'm fucking up words left right and center
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04:56.08ckknightdo they fuck back?
04:56.31haarmno they just lay there, cold and clammy
04:58.28ckknighthaarm, reproduced
04:59.04haarmyea it's probably just going to be a line somewhere so that after detaching you make it default to a certain position
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04:59.51CIA-1703devla * r20481 10RangeRecolor/ (RangeRecolor.lua RangeRecolor.toc):
04:59.51CIA-17RangeRecolor:
04:59.51CIA-17-Updated for 2.0
05:01.48KirkburnHigh quality TBC intro vid (in case SP|Sorren didn't post it earlier) http://www.spiketv.com/events/vga2006/simulcast.html :D
05:02.00CIA-1703devla * r20482 10/branches/RangeRecolor/:
05:02.00CIA-17RangeRecolor: TBC branch
05:02.00CIA-17-Deleted
05:02.00ckknighthaarm, actually, I'm making it not autohide if the menu's open instead.
05:02.19Eternally777Anyone have any experience with clickbinder?
05:02.20haarmalright
05:02.59KirkburnViper_0000, the icons are more down to the authors rather than anything to do with FuBar :/
05:03.20KirkburnGo up to them and say "eww, eww, eww, ewww, ewwwwww!"
05:03.27Viper_0000heh
05:03.36KirkburnGuaranteed success :P
05:04.04Viper_0000fubar is better, but titan just looks so sexi
05:04.09Viper_0000i miss it's sexy points
05:04.58KirkburnAnd I just don't see how it's different :P
05:05.33KirkburnOooh, ckknight, what about an option to font boldness on and off?
05:05.38KirkburnAh no wait
05:05.41KirkburnI'm going crazy :P
05:05.51ckknightKirkburn, no rebuttal from this direction
05:05.52KirkburnThat's *my* end of the deal :/
05:06.16Nickenyfikenckknight: when using  Cartographer_Notes:SetNote(), old notes only get replaced if coords is identical?
05:06.20ckknightyes.
05:06.41Nickenyfikenok
05:07.18CIA-1703ckknight * r20483 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar_Panel.lua): FuBar - now doesn't autohide when Dewdrop is open
05:07.31kergothckknight, first time pvp'ing in a long time.. the cart groupcolors module certainly does kick ass :)
05:07.38ckknight;-)
05:07.45kergothi, on the other hand, dont kick much ass at all. i'm awfully rusty at pvp :)
05:08.19CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20484 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/Interview.lua: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: Changed the default channels uses on a no-unit relationship unit
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05:08.55SkorcherXso... quick poll... horde or alliance??
05:09.01Arrowmasterhorde
05:09.04Nickenyfikenso, anyone know how far away in yards you can interact with npcs? ;-)
05:09.17ckknight5 or so?
05:09.17SkorcherX<----Horde (but has a NE priest lvl60)
05:09.27PigBenishey guys have all the files under http://www.wowace.com/files/ work under 2.0 or no?
05:09.28Viper_0000horde dance better
05:09.37ckknightNickenyfiken, I'd recommend iterating within 10 yards and seeing if the name is the same.
05:09.37Nickenyfikenoki
05:09.54ckknightyes, PigBenis
05:09.56Nickenyfikenhmm well yeah
05:09.58PigBenisgreat
05:10.06Funkeh`whichever has the sexier race
05:10.18SkorcherXwell... blood elf = teh sex
05:10.21Soulless!purl lua
05:10.23PigBenisman it's hard to find useful addons for a warrior
05:10.29SkorcherXwhat do you need?
05:10.30Funkeh`have you not seen dranei ?
05:10.34SkorcherXI play a warrior
05:10.38Soulless~purl lua
05:10.42purl[lua] a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications.  It is often used as a configuration language.  See http://www.lua.org/.
05:10.57SkorcherXI mean.. warrior specific? you only need one.. and thats tauntwarn
05:11.12PigBenisi dunno lol, i looked around and couldn't really find anything useful for warriors
05:11.15SkorcherXthe rest i use are interface addons
05:11.16Arrowmasteralthough im going to make a belf palidan im going to be a total asshole to all belf casters and hunters
05:11.25SkorcherXbecause its a pretty strait forward class
05:11.31PigBenisyeah
05:11.36SkorcherXget sct/d and tauntwarn then the rest of the UI is up to your taste
05:11.38PigBenisi had like 40 for my priest lol
05:11.53PigBenistauntwarn let's people know when taunt fails?
05:11.54SkorcherXsct/d is nice for telling you when to use overpower or when execute is available
05:11.59SkorcherXright
05:12.01SkorcherXme too
05:12.05PigBenisyeah, i seen that one
05:12.13SkorcherXmy priest had a ton, but i havnt played her since like 1.8
05:12.14PigBenisi'll give it a shot
05:12.22SkorcherXyeah
05:12.27PigBenis2.0 made playing my priest no more fun
05:12.44SkorcherXyeah 2.0.1 makes my warrior not alot of fun
05:12.50SkorcherXworking on a druid
05:13.12SkorcherXwatched a lvl 70 druid vid and it was amazing
05:13.24SkorcherXcrow form is the pwnage
05:14.03PigBenisthe main reason i liked my priest is because it was sooo easy to get a group with him, i don't have enough play time for a guild so it's all about gruping
05:14.14PigBenisi have a 60 rogue and finding a group can be very hard sometimes
05:14.32PigBenismy priest it's one right after the other
05:14.51SkorcherXahhh well... i havnt used the LFG tool, but maybe that would help with non healing classes
05:14.57haarmthe favourite thing to do on my priest is go shadowform and complain when I die because nobody healed me
05:15.10SkorcherXhahah
05:15.16PigBenislol
05:15.22Nickenyfikenckknight: but how can i get the note from the db? ie if there is a bunch of rogue trainers in the same spot and they all use the same registered icon...
05:15.36SkorcherXi actualyl enjoyed healing.. it was fun to follow around a warrior (when they raped face) and see how long i could keep him up.
05:15.40ckknightjust iterate through the nearby notes
05:16.04SkorcherXbut now... if i played a healer i would follow around a hunter and heal both the pet and player
05:16.42haarmjust play a priest and do damage and inherantly heal yourself at the same time
05:16.56SkorcherXright that too... but thats what im leveling a druid for
05:17.15haarmvampiric embrace > imp. leader of the pack
05:17.16SkorcherXand there is almost always a spot in a raid for battle rez and inervates
05:17.30haarmyea, you'll be innervating the shadowpriest ;)
05:17.31Nickenyfikenckknight: yeah but i dont get the name of the trainers only the icon name, zone and coords or?
05:17.41PigBenisso were warriors nerfed this patch?
05:17.51haarmno, they were normalised ;)
05:18.05ckknightNickenyfiken, oh, you access it by doing db[zone][id]
05:18.09ckknightthat's how you get the table
05:18.10PigBenisaka less dps? hehe
05:18.17haarmyea
05:18.32PigBenishumm
05:18.33SkorcherXomg
05:18.36SkorcherXwhere have you been?
05:18.37Nickenyfikenckknight: yup, but when i iterate how do i get the id?
05:18.40SkorcherXwhat level is your warrior?
05:18.55ckknighthrm, does it not return the id?
05:19.13SkorcherXcrap ass lvl 50-ish warriors wearing greens... felt like they got buffed lvl 60 BWL warriors (ME) got nerfed to shit.
05:19.59PigBenishey what does TLDR mean?
05:20.08ckknighttoo long, didn't read
05:20.09Arrowmastertoo long didnt read
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05:20.18PigBenisahh, thanks
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05:21.54Nickenyfikenckknight: im either to tired or too stupid :-P API doc says "zone, x, y, icon, db"
05:21.59Gngskis it possible to check for unit creature type in a macro?
05:22.10ckknightNickenyfiken, I'm gonna add a return value that returns the table.
05:22.31Nickenyfikenckknight: ok nice :-)
05:22.38Gngsklike /cast [unitcreaturetype=undead] Shackle Undead; [unitcreaturetype=humanoid] Mind Soothe
05:22.50rw3Can a table element in Lua that's got a key and a value also be predictably indexed by a number?
05:23.25rw3As in I'd want to insert stuff like SM = false, DEV = 5 in a specific order in a table
05:23.29rw3and read them by their index
05:23.39Nargiddleyno
05:23.54vid`goddamnit
05:23.57vid`3x in a row disco'd in ony
05:23.58vid`lol
05:24.00Benumbedckknight will cartographer later show in minimap (like gatherer), I know its still beta (just asking)
05:24.05ckknightyes.
05:24.13Benumbedk sweet, trashing gatherer
05:24.17ckknightI've been adding a whole bunch of stuff in preparation
05:24.24ckknightsuch as yardage measures to Tourist
05:24.29ckknightand notes
05:24.57Benumbedacegui was only thing to make gui's right?
05:26.35ckknightBenumbed, now we typically use Blizzard's CreateFrame
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05:26.52Benumbedoh
05:27.02Benumbedwas looking how autobar did it but got lost
05:27.07zoktaranyone know how to color crits in MSBT?
05:27.56haarmhmm, is there a library for CreateFrame? so you can pass a table and have it create a frame? that would be handy
05:28.08Benumbedyes it would
05:28.24Antiar1haarm: What kind of stuff are you wanting to pass it?
05:28.25CIA-1703funkydude * r20485 10ViewAddonMessage/ViewAddonMessage.toc: ViewAddonMessage: toc update for wiki
05:28.28Antiar1Like, properties to set on it?
05:28.51haarmwell, you know how now you have to set the parent of each element, blah blah, lots of repetition
05:29.05haarmyou could just pass a table containing frame details and it sets it all up
05:29.11Benumbedmaking a mod to show addons in game (like mcp) but do other things with it, better in gui than tooltip crap =x
05:29.27Antiar1I guess I'm confused-ish, because I've not had much problem with it. *shrug*
05:30.16haarmwell for complicated frames you're going to have an insane amount of code, was just thinking a well formatted table could do the job nicely and make code editing so much easier
05:31.09Antiar1Or you could...use XML. :P
05:31.24Antiar1Which is kinda the point of the whole XML frame description format to begin with :P
05:31.55haarmyea I dunno why people started doing static frames in lua only, maybe the xml parsing added a huge amount of overhead, who knows
05:31.56Nargiddleylimited if you need an arbitrary number of a type of frame tho
05:32.29Antiar1Nar: Not at all, since you can inherit frames when you create them in code.
05:32.53Antiar1For example, in Sanity, I have some stupidly complex frames that I need an arbitrary number of, so I defined it in XML and just create frames that inherit my complex frame, then tweak them.
05:33.12Antiar1The result is complex frames and fairly clean frames.
05:33.14ckknightlua allows you to make frames on-demand
05:35.56CIA-1703ckknight * r20486 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua:
05:35.56CIA-17Cartographer-Notes - added data return to :GetNote, :GetNearbyNote, :IterateNearbyNotes
05:35.56CIA-17also changed all string.method(str,...) into str:method(...)
05:36.43Soullesshow do you get the name of a frame if its mouse enabled?
05:36.56Soulless<PROTECTED>
05:37.01ckknight<PROTECTED>
05:37.05Soullessty
05:37.10Funkeh`..right
05:37.24Funkeh`there was about 300+ porn links etc in the BigWigs wiki page
05:37.54Antiar1It's not uncommon for wikis to get crapped up like that by people looking to boost their page's pagerank
05:37.58ckknightFunkeh`, odd
05:37.59Antiar1They get reverted pretty quickly though
05:38.04Funkeh`i removed it
05:38.09Funkeh`but it was hidden
05:38.21Funkeh`the code was there but it wasn't being displayed
05:38.27Funkeh`:S
05:38.37Antiar1Yeah, justsomeone looking to improve google's estimate of their site.
05:39.38ckknightNickenyfiken, wikified and all now.
05:42.08Funkeh`ck can you ban people on the wiki?
05:42.42Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=BigWigs&diff=prev&oldid=12505
05:43.38Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=BigWigs&diff=next&oldid=12505 is easier
05:44.04Funkeh`B.Gates nice contrib
05:44.45Garoun|Loupanahmm weird mod idea :P
05:45.22Garoun|Loupanaability to click 2 points on the battlefield minimap and have a chat message sent to raid saying inc <x> from <y>
05:45.26KirkburnWoWWiki gets it all the time
05:49.43CIA-1703nymbia * r20487 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0/PeriodicTable-InstanceLoot-2.0.lua:
05:49.43CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0:
05:49.43CIA-17- Removed a nonexistant item on Onyxia's loot table.
05:52.13ckknightKirkburn, want to guess which feature I'm about to commit?
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05:53.06KirkburnMmmm, something good I bet =)
05:53.15thalie~emulate xuerian
05:53.17purlXLoot is driving me crazy.
05:53.34ckknightKirkburn, oh yes
05:53.37CIA-1703ckknight * r20488 10FuBar/ (8 files): FuBar - now supports non-texture flat colors as a background.
05:53.43XuerianAh'v bin pinged <.<
05:53.45CIA-1703antiarc * r20489 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua SanityItemCache.lua): Sanity2: Added toggles for the various bags, including the keyring. This will be useful for hunters and warlocks that want to toggle off ammo/shard bags. Also re-arranged and categorized the main menu.
05:53.50ckknightKirkburn, test
05:53.53thaliei never!
05:53.56Kirkburnckknight, shall do!
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05:54.57haarmok, so until Blizzard_TradeSkillUI is loaded, the built in tradeskill API functions return incorrect values... wtf...
05:55.01anenigmadoes peroidictable list vendor prices?  so i can see which quest reward vendors for the most, or which grey is worth the most?
05:56.06rw3how do I insert an apples = "bananas" element into an existing table? :l
05:56.22haarmtable.apples = "bananas"
05:56.53Antiar1or table["apples"] = "bananas"
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05:56.58haarmor look up tinsert
05:56.59XuerianOf course you didn't, thalie. <.<
05:57.16ckknighthaarm, no, that wouldn't work
05:57.29Antiar1tinsert only works for arrays, not hash tables, IIRC
05:57.33ckknighttable.insert only works for numbered indexes
05:57.44haarmtrue
05:57.49rw3Yeah I tried table.insert and it didn't work
05:57.53haarmnow solve the tradeskill ui problem, AHA!
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06:00.06ckknightKirkburn, tested yet?
06:00.23Kirkburnaaugh, gimme a sec!
06:00.24thalie~dance
06:00.26purlACTION tries to breakdance, but runs into Tem and knocks him flat!
06:00.38ckknightyou requested the feature, it's your responsibility to test it
06:00.40ckknightthat's my policy.
06:00.47Xuerian~console tem
06:00.48purlACTION gives tem the consolation moose
06:00.48nymbiahaha
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06:00.50KirkburnYes, but at the same time, I was fighting something :P
06:00.57Funkeh`nn folks
06:00.59thalielol consolation moose?? :)
06:01.01TemSO
06:01.03TemMANY
06:01.04TemPINGS
06:01.06XuerianXD
06:01.11thalie~love tem
06:01.13purlIf you love tem so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
06:01.19nymbiaso this one time tem was like
06:01.33Tem<PROTECTED>
06:01.38thalie~wrists
06:01.40purlRemember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg
06:01.49XuerianI don't plan to ever follow that link <.<
06:01.53thalieme either x
06:01.55ckknightit's funny.
06:02.01ckknightnot bad.
06:02.05thaliedamn you ck
06:02.07thalielooking now
06:02.13XuerianHmm...>.>
06:02.22Kirkburnckknight, waiting for it to zip atm :/
06:02.26thalielol
06:02.27ckknightah.
06:02.43Xuerian:P
06:03.17KirkburnIt's up to r20486 ^^
06:05.25thalie~wrists
06:05.28purlYou think you're getting blood on my carpet?  Get outta here!
06:05.39ckknight~literal wrists
06:05.40purl"wrists" is "(<reply>Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg|<reply>You think you're getting blood on my carpet?  Get outta here!)"
06:05.43thaliedon't worry ck
06:05.46ckknightseems good to me
06:05.46thaliedidn't erase anything :p
06:06.08thalielol
06:06.09thaliety
06:06.21thalievariety is the spice of life
06:06.37Xuerianthalie needs a award for "Most purl quotes added during three workdays"
06:06.40Xueriano.o
06:06.55thalieunless you're blizz, in which case every encounter is the exact same every time you run it
06:06.59thaliehaha xuerian
06:07.27thalieeven chromaggus ... oh no ... time laps zzzzzzz
06:07.54ckknightit would be kinda neat if there were random occurances
06:08.02ckknightor slightly random spawnings
06:08.18thalieadding alternates seems to make it more fun and "random"
06:08.28ckknightalternates?
06:08.40thalie~wrists
06:08.41purlYou think you're getting blood on my carpet?  Get outta here!
06:08.41Gngskrandom = fun
06:08.49thalieblah
06:09.01KirkburnRandom also = takes ages to make and balance :(
06:09.13thalieoh you mean in game ;)
06:09.16thaliehaha
06:09.17Gngsknobody cares about balance
06:09.43thalietell that to all the pvp nubs
06:09.46thalie(no offense)
06:09.59kergoth~remulate
06:10.00purlSpace. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
06:10.00KirkburnI don't think many girlfriends would agree with "variety is the spice of life", thalie :P
06:10.02Xuerianthalie: Lies, all lies. "thalie: Immune to Failure". I've seen it. =O
06:10.31XuerianNo, see, Kirkburn...
06:10.37XuerianVariety isn't ...
06:10.52kergothmeh, went from combat swords to hemo/CoS so i can pvp to better daggers to go mutilate.  changing playstyles much..
06:11.37jalexhigginsi love that Futurama, lol
06:11.47ckknightyays.
06:11.47kergoth~emulate fry
06:11.49purlMy folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. What am I, the pope?
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06:11.52kergothhehe
06:11.57smoke_hey guys, anyone here use gotwood?
06:12.09KirkburnOnly problem I see is the BT3 and agUF icons aren't transparent :(
06:12.11jalexhiggins;)
06:12.22KirkburnEverything else works awesomely, ckk
06:12.30ckknightyay
06:12.36KirkburnAnd then I got disconnected
06:12.41KirkburnHmm, what just happened to the beta?
06:12.48Arrowmasterwhen you have a tooltip for an item open is there a way to get the itemlink for it?
06:12.48KirkburnCan't even log in
06:12.59thalieyou killed it
06:13.19XuerianKirkburn: You tried to give it too much variety.
06:13.24thaliehahaha
06:13.24KirkburnIt was evidently ckknight, I was just quietly sitting next to a dragon cave :(
06:13.33smoke_i just need some direction, what library i would use to add a functionality to GotWood that when i click on the specific totem it would drop that totem?
06:13.43smoke_like TotemTimers? or is that not possible?
06:14.05Kirkburnckknight, how does it interact with textures? It's a layer underneath?
06:14.15ckknightKirkburn, how does what?
06:14.16CIA-1703ckknight * r20490 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fix nil bug
06:14.25ckknightthe color?
06:14.30Kirkburnja, ja
06:14.38ckknightI just do :SetTexture(r,g,b) instead of :SetTexture("tex")
06:14.46ckknight;-)
06:14.51Kirkburn:)
06:14.56Temsmoke_, it's not doable without using specific buttons to cast the spells to begin with
06:15.06KirkburnSmall, but perfectly formed
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06:15.51ZeusJuiceClosetGnome_Mount is complaining about not finding GratuityLib cuz it has been taken out of ClosetGnome
06:15.52smoke_tem, so how totem timers worked is now impossible to replicate?
06:16.00Temthey don't work anymore
06:16.07thalie~remulate
06:16.08purlI never knew anyone who went crazy before, except for my invisible friend, Col. Schwartz.
06:16.11KirkburnThe entire beta just died ...
06:16.16KirkburnI can't even access the website
06:16.20XuerianKirkburn: You really are blurring the lines between addons and females <.<
06:16.45XuerianOr... males... for that matter.... /shudder
06:16.47KirkburnPardon, i was just coding some hips
06:17.01ckknightlol
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06:20.07AelielUh, I just got the latest SimpleCombatLog off /files and there's libs folders in the main folder (and not under libs/whateverlib)... should I just delete those, or move them inside /libs (though inside /libs there's lib folders already) or what?
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06:23.39kergoth~emulate chris
06:23.41purlIf I had a hole in my throat, I'd put pennies in it
06:25.47thalieyeah, simplecombatlog's libs are messed up
06:26.25Aelielso what should I do? :) (while waiting for them to get fixed)
06:26.49thaliei would leave them where they are, isn't going to hurt anything is it
06:26.50Kirkburnckknight, possible problem - just logged in - the bg colour didn't load
06:26.57KirkburnGoing to try again
06:27.00Icerothif you are running multiple ace mods, there's a good chance you have the required libs and can safely delete the folder
06:27.16Soullessok, i've never worked with tables before in lua, anybody got a good guide for them?
06:27.17ckknightKirkburn, odd
06:27.24ckknightSoulless, if you can, avoid them
06:27.25Aelielthalie: they hurt my innate sense of tidiness? ;) but yeah, good point
06:27.29ckknightif you can't, recycle them
06:27.31CIA-1703ckknight * r20491 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (5 files): FuBar_HonorFu - added option to have smaller HK text.
06:27.34Soullessright
06:27.37ckknightthat's all.
06:27.47ckknighttables aren't bad
06:27.49ckknightbut overuse is
06:27.53ckknightlike a drug habit.
06:27.57KirkburnYup, logged in, no background loaded
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06:27.59Soullesswell, if you got a second, i can show you a snippet and show you what i need to do, im sure theres a cleaner way
06:28.09KirkburnAs soon as I select the option "Colour" ... it appears
06:28.24Soullessbut yeah, my friends tell me for everything you create, have a way to destroy it or clean it up
06:28.55ckknightwell, I think your problem is that it's spelled "Color", not "Colour"
06:28.59ckknightso that could be it.
06:29.09CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20492 10Prat/modules/Buttons.lua: Prat: Use the same textures that the chat scroll buttons use. (contributed by Xirtron)
06:29.14KirkburnRawr >.<
06:29.39thalieoh, american spellings
06:29.46IcerothAeliel, if the SCL won't work as it is now, move the libs to the libs/ folder, that's where it tries to load them from (check the .toc file for more info)
06:29.53thaliei support kirkburn on this one
06:29.56ckknightah, I see, Kirkburn
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06:30.01ckknightenUS ftw.
06:30.04Kirkburn=)
06:30.12XuerianAmen, brother.
06:30.24KirkburnI just said "Colour" cause that's what i want it to be
06:30.31KirkburnBtw, you can enGB locales, can you not
06:30.43Soulless_lol
06:31.22ckknightthere's no point.
06:31.28KirkburnDarn americans :P
06:31.34thaliehere here
06:31.44thaliei have to use enUS even though i am clearly not in the US
06:31.49AelielIceroth: yeah, I know, and there actually -are- libs in the libs/ folder - was just puzzled by the double lib presence
06:32.08thaliebin 'em
06:32.12thalieleave the ones in libs
06:32.33Aelielokay
06:33.00Iceroththe toc file usually tells what there should be - if it's not mentioned in toc, wow won't load it
06:33.07thalie~wave
06:33.15Xuerian<3 XD
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06:42.52*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/files/ | TBC Guilds: PvE - CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | It's Ace, not ACE. Ace is not an acronym
06:42.54Soulless_its probably in a table somewhere, but i know dick about tables sooooo
06:42.57XuerianI really don't want to get you up, Kirkburn.
06:43.03Xuerian~xuerian
06:43.05purlACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random.
06:43.09Kirkburn\o/
06:43.17CIA-1703ckknight * r20494 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - now shows color textures properly on load
06:43.18Xuerian:3
06:43.22ckknightSoulless_, you could save it on the button itself
06:43.28ckknightbutton.oldX = button:GetWidth()
06:43.33KirkburnI found this awesome vendor too :(
06:43.46XuerianAww. What was it selling? :p
06:43.48KirkburnGave me an "orb of the blackwhelp"
06:43.55Xueriano.0
06:43.57Soulless_alright, i'll give that a shot
06:43.58Aeliela what now? o_O
06:44.14KirkburnTransforms you into a whelp for 15 mins :P
06:44.28Kirkburn2g50 a shot, 3 charges
06:44.42XuerianBlah
06:44.48XuerianI hate transformation items now =(
06:44.56Kirkburnaww
06:45.08XuerianThey completely ruined them for druids
06:45.14Aelieloh, yeesh, don't remind me
06:45.15Kirkburn(a helpless Blackwhelp)
06:45.21Aelieldispelling on shift = blah
06:45.24Kirkburnwhy so?
06:45.49Aelielanything you use that changes your look - noggenfogger, anything - drops when you shift
06:45.56XuerianBecause it was fun as all get out to tank instances as a miniaturized skeleton, and now shifting breaks ANY visual transformation effect
06:46.03Aeliel^ yeah
06:46.15AelielI loved tanking as a skeleton :(
06:46.29Soulless_yeah, i missed holding the flag in wsg as a miniature skeleton whiel i was in bearform :(
06:46.33Aelielbet you they did it for PVP
06:46.38Soulless_^^^^
06:46.38Gngskomg, seriously?
06:46.51Gngskshifting to stealth will break noggenfogger ?
06:46.52Aeliel"omg you can't see what shape they're in! nevermind that if they're in bearform they use rage and in cat energy!"
06:46.59XuerianThey did it because of whiny pvp assholes who couldn't tell the difference between a feral druid attacking and a restro druid healing
06:47.01Aeliel"people are not observant! let's help!"
06:47.06Dekuna~flee
06:47.07purlACTION runs away screaming
06:47.10Soulless_nor the sould effects
06:47.10Dekuna<3
06:47.13Kirkburnaha, and the server returneth
06:47.26XuerianAw, damn. There goes my captive audience.
06:47.27Kirkburnor noteth
06:47.30AelielKirkburn: nevertheless, where's this vendor? :p
06:47.32XuerianWoo.
06:47.32Arrowmasterbut how would i ever know to banish trees if they looked like skeletons?
06:47.54SP|Sorrenanyone written a mod to get rid of that world map icon?
06:47.57XuerianArrowmaster: Because they're moving slowly?
06:48.02DekunaSorren: SimpleMinimap
06:48.11Arrowmasterbut umm you dont move while casting
06:48.12Dekunait
06:48.12SP|Sorrenoh?
06:48.15Dekunayup
06:48.19SP|Sorreni shall try it, thanks
06:48.21Dekunait's in the wowace/files
06:48.23KirkburnBlade's Edge, you have to collect Costume Scraps to make a disguise, then go into a cave
06:48.23XuerianArrowmaster: ..... tree form is HOT based, isn't it?
06:48.37KirkburnA provisioner in the cave sells stuff :)
06:48.42Arrowmasteri thought you could still cast regrowth
06:48.47Aelielyou can
06:48.49Soulless_yeah, its only regrowth rejuv and swiftmend
06:48.54Aelieland lifebloom
06:48.58Soulless_well yeah
06:49.06Aelieland tranquillity iirc
06:49.13Dekunawho casts tranqility though
06:49.17DekunaNOBODY
06:49.17XuerianAnyway, people still move between casts
06:49.18Aelieltrees? ./shrug
06:49.19neeneeI do :)
06:49.22Dekunalies
06:49.24XuerianUh, now that it does 1500 a tick?
06:49.26Soulless_tranq is so terrible
06:49.27XuerianQuite a few
06:49.27neeneein battlegrounds around the flag it's quite nice
06:49.30Aeliel10min CD tho
06:49.37neenee1600 a tick, and not yet in live
06:49.49Aelielheard that treeform got changed btw?
06:49.51Soulless_it costs like 1/4 of your manabar for a crappy group hot
06:49.53Dekunadid they up the manqa cost?
06:49.54Aelielnow it buffs healing -taken- by your group
06:50.09Soulless_wow, thats huge
06:50.21ckknightnymbia, so you know, I'm hacking your code pretty harshly now
06:50.24DekunaAeliel: that would really, really suck
06:50.31[Liquidor]What would be the correct name to use: Battlefield vs Battleground ?
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06:50.35Soulless_i had my rejuv tick for 900 the other day in a pug ony with a gorup fo 5 trees
06:50.36XuerianArrowmaster: That's actually the only logical argument I've ever heard about shifting popping you out of visual transformations.
06:50.45AelielDekuna: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=33891
06:50.51Dekunai've been loving my 4 druids and a shaman with tranq air, mana spring and mana tide groups
06:50.55XuerianArrowmaster: But it would be much more reasonable to just remove the buffs/block the items in the BG
06:51.01SogekingHi.
06:51.02Aeliel"Transforms the Druid into the Tree of Life Form. While in this form you increase healing received by 25% of your total Spirit for all party members within 45 yards, your movement speed is reduced by 20%, and you can only cast Swiftmend, Innervate and healing over time spells, but the mana cost of these spells is reduced by 20%."
06:51.10Aeliel(apologies for bold/underline)
06:51.13Soulless_omg.....
06:51.15Arrowmastergay
06:51.20ArrowmasterGAY
06:51.25SogekingHow do I get Auf_range to work?
06:51.35Soulless_druids already suck, and now they beat the piss outta them with the nurf bat WEAK
06:51.35neeneeThere's nothing in there about sexual preference Arrowmaster.
06:51.54nymbiackknight: that's perfectly fine :)
06:52.01Dekunagod, that's a really annoying nerf
06:52.09XuerianThat almost makes me want to go restro. I already mostly only cast hot's :P
06:52.17Dekunawhy don't they make it so the aura doesn't stack?
06:52.21XuerianArrowmaster: What's homosexual?
06:52.25Dekunaif they are worried about it being powerful
06:52.33Dekunaugh :(
06:52.42XuerianDekuna: What was it before?
06:52.53Dekunait increased healing done
06:52.54Aeliel"while in this form you increase healing done" or somesuch
06:53.02Xuerianbah
06:53.10Dekunaeach druid in the party (in my guild anyways) added about +100 healing
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06:53.14SogekingSorry, anyone can get Auf_range to work?
06:53.32Dekunaso 4 druids and a shaman and i was up to +1420 healing
06:53.38Dekuna:(
06:53.38XuerianWhat scares me is the amount of damage mobs are going to put out to keep up with this healing potential
06:53.53AelielI think they wanted to make people have one tree druid, in the MT group, for the +healing received - and have other spec druids in the other groups :p feral druid + melee/MT + tree druid is interesting for instance
06:53.58AelielSogeking: sorry, never used it, can't help :/
06:54.29Dekunaso a MT group for horde would be something like tank warlock shaman druid
06:54.33Dekunahmmm
06:54.57Aelieltank lock shaman paladin treedruid possibly
06:55.04Aelieldepends if the lock stamina bonus is still worthwhile
06:55.05Dekunai guess for five-mans it's exactly the same
06:55.12Aelielotherwise, me, I'd stick a shadowpriest with VE in the MT group, too
06:55.14Dekunabut that's a huge nerf for raiding
06:55.39Dekunamakes me sad :(
06:55.52Dekuna~cry
06:55.54purlACTION cries and sobs until he nearly drowns in his own tears
06:56.17AelielI'm more grouchy they changed the idols of brutality and ferocity, myself... but then I'm feral :)
06:56.27Arrowmasterthey did?
06:56.31Arrowmasterto what?
06:56.32SogekingThanks!
06:56.35Aelielto +damage dealt
06:56.36Dekunamade them scale less
06:56.39Dekunabasically
06:56.44Aelielhttp://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=1676
06:56.45Arrowmasterfucking stupid
06:56.47Dekunathey want people to use shiny new gears
06:57.04Dekunabut no one has seen any upgrades yet
06:57.13Dekunaso it's just pointless
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06:57.30Aelielferocity -> savagery I guess
06:57.31Aeliel:|
06:57.35Dekunaalso: very dissapointed in tier 4 and 5
06:57.37BS|triflyniark niark !
06:57.48Dekunastats are lackluster, set bonuses are weak
06:57.48Arrowmasterif i actually used it i would be angry about the black book nerf
06:58.01Aelielagree...
06:58.07Aelieland where the hell is the tanking set :|
06:58.11XuerianThe idols aren't that bad
06:58.12DekunaArrowmaster: I support that nerf, given that i was cleaved by a felguard the other day for 1.2k
06:58.25Icerothdruid t5 2 set bonus rocks for pvp
06:58.28XuerianThe worst nerf is the +25% health instead of +40% to bear form
06:58.36Aelieltrue
06:58.38Dekunaword
06:58.51FryGuy-<Aeliel> I think they wanted to make people have one tree druid, in the MT group, for the +healing received - and have other spec druids in the other groups :p feral druid + melee/MT + tree druid is interesting for instance
06:58.56ArrowmasterDekuna: the nerfed one looks to be nerfed too much
06:59.00FryGuy-tree is healing *by* the people in the group afai
06:59.02FryGuy-faik
06:59.05BS|triflyi have found a tips to remplace targetunit in the add on i used before 2.0 :D
06:59.18XuerianFryGuy-: Point is that just got changed
06:59.24DekunaFryGuy: it got changed in beta
06:59.44AelielFryGuy-: read up, got changed
06:59.48Dekunalol
06:59.59Dekunathe departmend of redundancy department
07:00.08Aelielhehe
07:00.29XuerianDepartment of departmental redundancy <.<
07:01.18FryGuy-oh really
07:01.21FryGuy-sorry didn't know :p
07:01.46FryGuy-all i know is that priests need to get buffed
07:01.49FryGuy-cause they suck :/
07:02.13XuerianDo pallies still outheal them with the downrank nerf?
07:02.14BS|trifly<-- priest spé disc
07:02.30FryGuy-i stopped playing my priest cause it was so stupid
07:02.35FryGuy-i play my mage now
07:02.46BS|triflyi have mage too
07:02.48BS|triflyand hunt
07:02.55BS|triflyall full epik
07:03.05[Liquidor]Lib for Battlegrounds?
07:03.14XuerianGloryLib?
07:03.17ckknight[Liquidor], Glory-2.0
07:03.22[Liquidor]k
07:03.34FryGuy-especially how the talents are compared to the hybrids
07:03.38Kirkburnlol, there are SIX people playing on the beta server atm
07:03.48XuerianFeelin' special today, Kirkburn?
07:04.12ckknightKirkburn, I'm on
07:04.12Kirkburn(Alliance)
07:04.12KirkburnNo NPCs though
07:04.14Kirkburn(oh yeah, and Tempest Keep EU)
07:04.15ckknightKirkburn,  oh, you're EU
07:04.18XuerianDetails, details.
07:04.37Kirkburnckknight of all people should know that :)
07:04.56ckknight:-P
07:05.21BS|triflymage fire ball 3600 crit dot 600 ---> os all ^^'
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07:14.22Kirkburnnymbia, you know how AtlasLoot deals with non-cached item links?
07:14.54nymbiaKirkburn, I'd guess it has a name list. lemme check,
07:15.02KirkburnFirst click it outputs a chat msg saying click this again to try it
07:15.44KirkburnI think first try it 'ignores' the click, then allows it the next
07:15.47nymbiahm
07:16.12KirkburnThat way people don't have to click thru windows if they know the item is definately seen
07:16.19KirkburnThey just spam click the items
07:17.30TemAtlas loot also keeps a table of item names, ids, and textures
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07:17.49Temit has files that are 10,000 + lines long
07:17.55Temwhere every line defines a new table
07:18.03ckknightthat seems icky, imho
07:18.06Temit must take AGES to load
07:18.12Temand it must take up b
07:18.17TemBOATLOADS of memory
07:18.28Kirkburnwell, you need to to store the drop info somehow
07:18.47nymbiaPT does it well :D
07:18.55DeviadDoes anyone know how to get cryolysis internal beta?
07:18.58ckknightokay, for Dewdrop's guiNameIsMap, which will cycle through two values, changing the dewdrop's text, it seems like it should be checked, but I don't want to use the normal check. Anyone have any ideas?
07:20.01KirkburnTem, fair enough, PT is pretty condensed :)
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07:20.57nymbiaatlasloot defines everything globally O.o
07:21.29Temsrly?
07:21.47nymbiayeah
07:21.54ckknight:'(
07:21.59ckknight^--- crying
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07:22.28nymbiaa single item in atlasloot: { 16920, "INV_Gauntlets_14", "=q4=Handguards of Transcendence", "=q1=#m1# =ds=#c5#",   "6.01%" },
07:22.40nymbiathat's just out of control.
07:22.40KirkburnWhy is it that Light Feathers show as a Quest Item for me?
07:22.44ckknightnymbia, now show me PT's
07:22.57ckknightomg, why is "6.01%" a string?
07:23.05ckknightwhy isn't it 0.0601?
07:23.14nymbiaan entire boss in PT: ["InstanceLoot - Baron Aquanis"] = "16782:856 9451:333 4299:9 15527:9 7070:9",
07:23.32ckknighthrm
07:23.40ckknightI just know that can be condensed more.
07:23.45ckknight"inside"
07:24.07Temit doesn't really need to be condensed more
07:24.14Ominousis the branch for beta versions of an addon that arnt ready for trunk
07:24.21nymbiacompression of some sort, maybe. but that'd make it harder to edit.
07:24.24ckknightbasically, Ominous
07:24.33ckknightyea, it's probably fine as it stands
07:24.36KirkburnOminous, in general, depends though
07:24.41nymbiaPT does things pretty well.  doesnt expand the strings into tables until they're requested.
07:24.44Tekkubhttp://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/12/11/nightowls_hum.html?category=human&guid=20061211111500&dcitc=w19-502-ak-0000
07:25.15KirkburnHow do you organise drops into sets then?
07:25.27ckknightKirkburn, it's per-boss
07:25.31nymbiaTekkub: lol :)
07:25.49KirkburnSo my point will be AtlasLoot provides far more functionality, hence the extra info
07:25.59nymbiawhat more functionality?
07:26.14Kirkburn"How do you organise drops into sets then?" <-- infer something? :)
07:26.32nymbiawhat kind of sets?
07:26.56KirkburnTier 1 Warlock, Tier 2 etc
07:26.59KirkburnPvP sets
07:27.04KirkburnAll that jazz
07:27.12DeviadIs any alpha of the new cryolysis out?
07:27.14Kirkburnit also shows the icons for the item even when the link isn't 'active', and drop rates
07:27.19DeviadIs any alpha of the new cryolysis out?
07:27.37Kirkburn(And shows the item name for unseen items so you know what you're clicking)
07:27.38Elkanockknight, why not use PT for instance loot?
07:27.53ckknightElkano, take guess what nymbia just added and I'm hacking on now
07:27.58ckknightyou have 3 chances to get it right.
07:28.03nymbialol
07:28.03Kirkburnhehe
07:28.17KirkburnElkano, why'd you think the convo started, silly :P
07:28.46jalexhigginsif you are using fubar_Plugin does it not allow you register console commands with RegisterChatCommands
07:28.46jalexhiggins()?
07:29.20Elkanowell, I missed the start ^^ but when I read AtlasLoot abig "don't do it that way" raised in my head
07:29.22Temwell, one of the bonuses of BC is that a lot of items are vendord now
07:29.23Kirkburn(all that stuff allows AtlasLoot to work standalone, too)
07:29.38jalexhigginsI dont seem to get any console optioins when I try to port my addon to Fubar
07:29.39KirkburnYeah, so items are always seen
07:29.41Temwhich means as long as the vendor is alive, the link is valuid
07:29.53nymbiaKirkburn: for 'sets', i'd argue that they aren't needed, but the data is there in PT if we wanted to go that route.  textures for unknown items is just fluff and pt has all the droprates always
07:29.54Temvalid*
07:29.58Kaeltenwow
07:30.12Kaeltenthey are using cloning techs to make tequila
07:30.16ckknightyou can, jalexhiggins
07:30.32ckknightjalexhiggins, um, pastey your addon
07:30.46Kirkburnnymbia, k, but lots of people want to just look at and admire the sets rather than search through bosses to find it individually
07:30.56jalexhigginsUm, im new. what is pastey?
07:31.07KirkburnThat's what many of the people I know use AL for :)
07:31.25ckknightjalexhiggins, ace.pastey.net
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07:32.44Kemayockknight: The transparancy on your spiffy new Instance Loot thing seems to be jumping all over the place.  ;_;
07:32.53nymbiaKirkburn: fair enough.  but i'd argue that that doesnt belong in cartographer itself.  PT has all that data available, though, for any addon to grab. and it's far, FAR more efficient than atlasloot's data.
07:32.54KirkburnAnyway, I would love to have an AtlasLoot replacement as part of Cartographer, it would appeal to many people
07:33.01ckknightKemayo, what do you mean?
07:33.04jalexhigginsckknight, what part should i post on pastey
07:33.12ckknightjalexhiggins, the lua
07:33.16jalexhigginsthe whole thing?
07:33.17Kirkburnnymbia, I don't disagree :P
07:33.25KemayoIt jumped from being fully visible when I first opened it to being the same alpha as the rest of the map after I'd clicked on it a few times.
07:33.44nymbiackknight: the parenting thing again, probably.
07:33.44ckknightKemayo, hrm, I'll look into it.
07:33.51ckknightyea, I bet.
07:33.59KirkburnKemayo, it's so exciting, it wants you to notice!
07:33.59jalexhigginsdone, http://ace.pastey.net/3546
07:34.29nymbiackknight: oh, another thing that seemed a little unnatural is that the side tablet is at a higher frame level than the ItemRefTooltip
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07:34.53ckknightnymbia, hrm, okay
07:35.01TenraiMornin.
07:35.03ckknightnot for me, nymbia
07:35.11Kemayockknight: It does look pretty awesome so far, though. :D
07:35.21jalexhigginsckknight, cartographer is a wicked addon.
07:35.28ckknightvote it up on wowinterface
07:35.36nymbiackknight: odd.  i'll check again next time i'm on.
07:35.42KirkburnAnd vote up ClearFont while you're at it =)
07:35.51Valleriuscan anyone think of anything that might have changed with 2.0 to cause my OnEnter handlers to stop firing?
07:35.53Elkanobtw: could anyone request a GetNumFactions(true) from slouken, that would return the total number of faction lines that can be queried with GetFactionInfo(id)? (so its easier to also inclued those lines not counted by GetNumFactions due to their header being collapsed)
07:36.27nymbiaElkano: LOL did you see the number of times i had to change that damn function in GrindStatus?
07:37.06nymbiaended up using the description field, since GetFactionInfo(60000) returns a name "Other" for some characters.
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07:37.41ckknightyea, vote up clearfont
07:37.46ckknightjust no higher than my mods
07:37.51nymbiahehe
07:38.03Kirkburnaww
07:38.32KirkburnI think it would be a miracle if I managed it
07:39.00nymbiadear god.. atlasloot is 1.7 megs
07:39.19Temnymbia, it's gotta be 10-20 once you load it in game
07:39.19nymbiano textures either.
07:39.24nymbiayeah.
07:39.47Elkanonymbia: WTF? :/
07:39.56Temthere are litterally files 10,000 and more lines long
07:40.07Temwhere EVERY SINGLE LINE creates a new table
07:40.56Soulless_and people wonder why their in-game memory jumps from 25 mb to 50
07:41.11Kaeltenlol
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07:41.37nymbiaTem: i'm a fan of their localization method.  they define 400 lines of global strings, then overwrite them if the client's not enUS
07:41.51DrDreanyone on blades edge horde a lock able to summon me past this damn gate. I run a lvl 6 lock to blasted lands and it wont let me through the gate :(
07:42.03Temnymbia, that sounds like a FANTASTIC idea
07:42.23Soulless_DrDre what gate?
07:42.29DrDreOutlands lol
07:42.37Soulless_>_<
07:42.54SP|Sorrenif i do for k,v in pairs({"green"] = true, ["blue"] = true, ["red"] = true, }) do v = false; end
07:42.56nymbiaeven if all the PT loot data were expanded, it'd probably be a tenth of the memory of this behemoth.
07:43.03SP|Sorrener
07:43.13SP|Sorrenpretend that {} is some already declared table
07:43.20SP|Sorrenwith those values ;o
07:43.24[Liquidor]tempTable = { [1] = {44,66}, [2] = {66,44} } -- How do I order tempTable by [ ] = {xx, } ?
07:43.28SP|Sorrenis that table.blue == false now?
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07:43.52[Liquidor](either desc or asc, doesn't matter)
07:44.07Soulless_wowace forums hit my head
07:44.10FryGuy-give me a sec [Liquidor]
07:44.15[Liquidor]k
07:44.34Elkano[Liquidor]: table.sort(tempTable, function(a,b) return a[1] < b[1] end)
07:44.35DrDrewow BE male dance is horrible
07:44.37Soulless_there is so many threads
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07:44.48FryGuy-bah you beat me!
07:44.52Elkano:P
07:44.55[Liquidor]Thanks :)
07:45.10[Liquidor]Erhm
07:45.23[Liquidor]< = asc or desc?
07:45.44FryGuy-yes!
07:45.50[Liquidor]haha :P
07:45.55Soulless_Elkano: istheelk is there an ebb for 2.0?
07:46.01FryGuy-should be asc
07:46.14[Liquidor]...: is < = asc or is it desc?
07:46.18[Liquidor]ok I'll find out
07:46.19Soulless_i need to stop hitting esc and thinking it clears the textbox like im in wow
07:46.25ArrowmasterElkano: earlyer ebb was showing "Weapon 16" when i had a bauber on my fishing pole
07:46.41Soulless_Arrowmaster: so i take it there is a 2.0?
07:47.00Arrowmasteryes its on the svn
07:47.28Soulless_you happen to know if Elkano switched to textures or are they still true statusbars?
07:47.31[Liquidor]Elkano: what if I got 3 values ? -- tempTable = { [1] = {44,66,99}, [2] = {66,44,99} }
07:47.45[Liquidor]Elkano: Just to get an idea of how it works
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07:50.27GamefaqKaelten are you around?
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07:52.18Gamefaqsomeoneelse getting error that his comit note is wrong?
07:52.47nymbiaaddon name should be the first thing in it
07:52.56Gamefaqi typed: Fubar: Updated deDE TRanslation
07:53.06nymbiacapital "b"
07:53.15Gamefaqi cna also type: Fubar - Updated deDE TRanslation
07:53.38nymbia"FuBar"
07:53.51GamefaqO.o why
07:54.09ElkanoSoulless_: ElkBuffBar from svn or wowace.com/files works with 2.0
07:54.27Gamefaqcase sensitiv? -_-
07:54.27ElkanoSoulless_: I still use status bars, but they are textured, too...
07:54.34Soullesshmmm
07:54.54Elkano[Liquidor]: still table.sort(tempTable, function(a,b) return a[1] < b[1] end)
07:55.25Gamefaqahh now...
07:55.30Gamefaqthx
07:55.33nymbia:)
07:55.34[Liquidor]Elkano: Erhm that confuses me :-/
07:55.36Soullesswell because in previous versions i played aroudn with making them vertical or filling from left>>right before i realized they were statusbars and not textures >_>
07:55.47Gamefaqdon´t now it´s case sensitive :/
07:55.53Soullessi got the awesome star that day
07:56.06Elkano[Liquidor]: the syntax is table.sort(yourtable, sortfunction) where sortfunction will be called with two values from yourtable and should return if the first arg is considered smaller than he 2nd.
07:56.17[Liquidor]Elkano: oh it's the [x] that fixes it?
07:56.34[Liquidor]nvm I get it now and thanks :)=
07:56.39Elkano[Liquidor]: since yourtable contains tables in your case and you want to sort based on ther first value you'll compare a[1] and b[1]
07:57.20[Liquidor]btw this will sort my table aight? So if I just need a temporary ordered list I should create a new variable aight?
07:57.48Soulless_if (button.desch) and (button.descw) then       will this still run if button.desch or button.descw = 0? or even ~=0?
07:58.07Nargiddleyyes
07:58.15Soulless_if they're 0 they return false right? or does it just have to exist?
07:58.23Nargiddleyonly thing that will come out false is false or nil
07:58.23Elkanoyes, this will sort the given table, so if you also want to maintain your old table make sure to do a 1:1 copy. And note that newtable = oldtable won't do a 1:1 copy
07:58.34Soulless_Nargiddley: ty
07:59.03[Liquidor]Cause what I'm conserned about now is that MyTable = { [1] = {44,66}, [2] = {55,77} } can't be reordered or? Is it okay for my table to become MyTable = { [2]..., [1]... } when using table.insert() ?
07:59.35[Liquidor]...to insert data following.
08:00.03ckknight[Liquidor], it's essentially the same table.
08:00.49[Liquidor]Hmm so MyTable = { [2]..., [1]... } -- table.insert(...) is valid?
08:00.54Nargiddleysorting { [1] = 2, [2] = 1, [3] = 3 } would give { [1] = 1,[2] = 2,[3] = 3 } wouldnt it
08:00.54Solehmm
08:01.08Elkanobut iirc if you use numeric keys, better use table.insert(t, data) for new data than t[#t + 1] = data
08:01.19Soleif youre only in a party then the raid unitids dont exist huh?
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08:01.25[Liquidor]Elkano: That's what I'm talking about
08:01.34Soleso I can use raid1 to reference a guy in my party if Im not in a raid
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08:01.52SoleI know its a far off question but Im not sure about it
08:02.01[Liquidor]Elkano: Does Lua then know that [3] is the next key?
08:02.08Soullessits not possible to get data from outside of wow into wow is there, like you can't edit wtf files and have them up ingame can you
08:02.09Elkanoso as long as you use numeric keys and don't care about the keys but only the order, don't touch the keys and let lua handle them ^^
08:02.29Soullessupdate*
08:02.43KemayoSoulless: You can edit the SavedVariables for an addon.  They're just lua files, after all.
08:02.45[Liquidor]Soulless: not while playing
08:02.53Soullessyeah
08:02.57KemayoBut, as Liquidor says, not while the game is running.
08:02.59Soleping ckknight
08:03.01Elkanowell, as Nargiddley said it will reassign data to the keys when sorting, so your table is still {[1] = ..., [2] = ...} but sorted
08:03.08Nickenyfikenckknight: thanks thanks! ;-)
08:03.10Soullessdoes wow lock the files?
08:03.13Nargiddleyas far as table sorting and treating a table as an array, [1] is always the first key, [2] is always the 2nd
08:03.17ckknightSole, hrm?
08:03.25jalexhigginsckknight, i got the console commands working with FubarPlugin. thx
08:03.28ckknightNickenyfiken, what'd I do?
08:03.31ckknightjalexhiggins, yay
08:03.57[Liquidor]Soulless: in order to read/write data to/from Soulless you need to do a reload of your UI (or relog/login) and doing that will overwrite your savedvariables file
08:04.08Soullessright
08:04.12[Liquidor]to/from SavedVariables*
08:04.18Soullessisnt there a mod that does shoutcasting inside wow?
08:04.24jalexhigginsI get a weird error message when reattaching to the fubar panel from the minimap.
08:04.38MoonWolfIt's easier to hide the nerf weapons under a kilt
08:04.40[Liquidor]Soulless: you can edit the addon itself and its content with new content
08:04.52Soleckknight, question about AceComm,  the documentation mentions I can only send up to 20 values ...does a table count as 1 value or does each index inside the table count as a value also?
08:05.02Nickenyfikenckknight: hehe added data return value to cartographer notes
08:05.13Nickenyfikenlike 2 hours ago
08:05.15ckknightSole, ah, that needs to change. you can send infinite values now. tables count as 1 value
08:05.20ckknightNickenyfiken, ah, right.
08:05.22[Liquidor]Soulless: Could be of a file called Broadcasts.lua within the addon which you reload while playing
08:05.31StylpeSay, would anyone like to lend me their account for addon dev purposes? :D
08:05.38Soleckknight: doesnt really need to change so long as everything inside the table is sent Im happy :P
08:05.41CIA-1703ckknight * r20495 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - alter tooltipTitle when guiNameIsMap
08:05.49ckknightomg, CIA's slow.
08:05.54Soleyeah
08:05.58Soullesswell, there was a mod i saw that supposedly you could listen to shoutcasts while playing wow, i was just wondering if that was possible
08:06.04nymbia~comfort CIA-17
08:06.12purlThere, there, CIA-17.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
08:06.12Solestill waiting for my commit to show up lol
08:06.15CIA-17ow
08:06.20nymbialol
08:06.21[Liquidor]Soulless: 3rd party software which is against the  EULA (or the other one)
08:06.22ckknightSole, should be fine. Don't send over the whisper stream
08:06.37Soullessyeah, lemmie see if i can't find that mod
08:06.41Solenaw Ill be sending over  PARTY or RAID
08:06.44Soullessmaybe i read it wrong
08:06.46ckknightokay, that'll work.
08:06.47nymbiathe whisper stream eats babies.
08:06.54ckknightyea, whisper's broken in 2.0
08:06.57[Liquidor]Soulless: Can't be a mod/addon :)
08:07.10Soleactually, ck Id like your input on this concept before I code it
08:07.13[Liquidor]Soulless: Gotta be an executable file
08:07.19[Liquidor]or similar
08:07.50ckknightSole, k
08:07.52SoleEPM will parse only your code, but if it detects that someone in the raid/party doesnt have the module running then it will compile their data also,  to detect whether someone is running the module I have 2 options
08:07.57Sole-------
08:07.57SoleHave a list of all the people in the raid in a table. Each one is flagged, whether the module is enabled or not for them. When the party/raid roster updates, send an addon message such as "EPM_CHECKMODULE DMGDONE [name][name]", each name represents a person whose flag is false. If it returns false then compile info for each person who returns false.
08:08.04Soleidea 2: Every party/raid member has a flag for each modules (true/false), this is intially set to false. When the party/raid roster updates, everyone's flag is set to false and each person sends out an addon message such as "EPM_MODULE_DMGDONE TRUE" to reactivate their flag.  
08:08.21Soulless_http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6450.html i like
08:08.22[Liquidor]Woot you're fast at typing *giggle*
08:08.28Solekekek
08:08.39sylvanaarwhats EPM
08:08.43SoleEpeenMeter
08:09.02Soullessis that gonna be a dmg meter type mod?
08:09.07Soleindeed it is
08:09.17[Liquidor]Soulless: what about that addon you linked?
08:09.21jalexhigginsCan anyone suggest a good ace2 action bar mod. ie toggles, dragging, resizing?
08:09.26Soullesscuz i'd be intrested in one that didn't consume your entire god damn memory like sws
08:09.30Solejale: bartender3
08:09.35ckknightSole, um, I don't know the better way. I'd say make it work first *shrug*
08:09.40Soulless[Liquidor]: i just liked it, i really miss the enchant highlights
08:09.47SoleSoulless: I know what ya mean :)
08:10.01Soleckknight, youre no fun :(
08:10.12[Liquidor]Soulless: oh sorry I missed your "i" word in that sentence and thought you were talking about the prio thing :)
08:10.18Solealright make it work it is
08:10.29sylvanaarI still dont know what people mean when they say SWS eats memory, i use it and my memory use is very stable
08:10.31Soullessi really don't need to be able to recalculate my dmg vs the mob or how much fire dmg vs frost dmg he took and other shit, i just want numbers with a few options
08:11.05Soullesssylvanaar: my memory goes up about 15 megs after 4-6 hours of raiding
08:11.09Soullessuntil i "nuke"
08:11.16Arrowmasterdoesnt sws save everything even if you clear it?
08:11.36[Liquidor]SWS using Ace?
08:11.40andremarSole: one really cool feature of recap that I hope you can get in there somewhere are teh personal stats
08:11.42Soullessnot sure
08:11.42sylvanaaryou have do delete the timeline segments or wait 2 days
08:11.42Arrowmasterno
08:11.44[Liquidor]Well that explains it *giggle*
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08:12.02Arrowmasterno it doesnt
08:12.37sylvanaaror if you use the fubar plugin it deletes the data on logout
08:12.55Soulless_0.00001 and 1e-5 are the same in lua no?
08:13.03ckknightyes, soulless
08:13.07Soulless_even in comparsions?
08:13.08Soulless_k
08:13.11ckknightlikely
08:13.19ckknightI do local epsilon = 1e-5 at the top
08:13.35Soulless_alright
08:13.40MoonWolfckknight, are you going to keep the rank information in honorfu
08:13.52ckknightI don't know.
08:13.55Soulless_whats the precision of lua?
08:13.57ScoTTiewill babble-zone/glory be updated with the arenas ?
08:14.01ckknightsoulless, 17 digits
08:14.12ckknightScoTTie, are you volunteering?
08:14.15Soleandremar: I actually plan to include stats for everyone atm and also the damagetaken module will contain what elements did how much damage to the unit
08:14.33SoleThe reason Im going to use that functionality like in SWStats is because my guild likes it
08:14.35ckknightI don't play WoW, I wouldn't really know how to pursue the arena stuff
08:14.39ScoTTiei could have a go
08:14.40Solelol ck
08:14.49andremarSole: ok
08:15.21Solehow much frost dmg, nature dmg, fire dmg, etc the tank took  helped my guild figure out the best gear combos on some boss fights
08:15.22[Liquidor]local isArena, isRegistered = IsActiveBattlefieldArena(); --  that's all apart from what it is now
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08:15.47SoleIm trying to think of a way to keep it optional though but yet keep it accurate
08:15.56andremarSole: magic/non-magic to figure out if using Dampen or Amplify would be cool
08:16.19Tekkuband we have a nekkid guy
08:16.22Tekkubugh
08:16.23SoleAndremar: currently it will be Physical, Fire, Frost, Nature, Shadow, Frost, Arcane  
08:16.26Tekkubthe people I work with
08:17.03Soulless_if not (button.oldh) or not (button.oldh == epsilon) then
08:17.03Soulless_if not ((button.oldh) or (button.oldh == epsilon)) then
08:17.08Soulless_they're the same thing no?
08:17.12ckknightew.
08:17.16ckknightuse ~=
08:17.21Soulless_>_>
08:17.25ckknightand no, it's not true
08:17.33[Liquidor]Oh and teamSize is now in GetBattlefieldStatus(index); for the queues: 2,3,5 or 0 if not an arena queue
08:17.35Soulless_use first one?
08:17.40naeneeSole: Holy?
08:17.47Soleoh yeah and Holy
08:17.48ckknightnot (alpha and bravo) => not alpha or not bravo
08:18.03ckknightI forget who came up with that proof
08:18.07ckknightalso,
08:18.15ckknightnot (alpha or bravo) => not alpha and not bravo
08:18.26[Liquidor]both true?
08:18.42sylvanaarthats the all logic is expressable with nand/nor proof
08:18.44ckknightit's a transformation, the answer is equivalent
08:18.49[Liquidor]bah that one makes my head blow :S
08:18.53KirkburnOoh, I think I've found a 'bug' in WAU
08:19.04ckknightKirkburn, direct it to PProvost
08:19.05Arrowmaster[Liquidor]: that IsActiveBattlefieldArena() is a builtin function now?
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08:19.30KirkburnBy default it try's to open the 'Addons' folder, when it should properly be the "AddOns" folder ... at least that's what I'm told
08:19.37[Liquidor]Arrowmaster: according to http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsActiveBattlefieldArena
08:20.03[Liquidor]What is WAU?
08:20.04sylvanaarits a windows program
08:20.11sylvanaarit doesnt matter
08:20.12SoleWinAceUpdater
08:20.15KirkburnWowAceUpdater
08:20.17naeneeWowAceUpdater
08:20.22Solesame shit
08:20.25[Liquidor]WinAppleUpdater?
08:20.41[Liquidor]:)
08:20.46renchap[Liquidor]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Morgan%27s_laws :)
08:20.52ckknightthat's it, renchap
08:20.54naeneeOoh! WAU beta is out :D
08:21.01sylvanaarwhat error does it cause
08:21.23SoleOnEnable is fired after all files are loaded, correct?
08:21.39ckknightyes, sole
08:21.42Solekk ty
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08:22.37[Liquidor]uhm weird stuff renchap
08:23.50Kirkburnsylvanaar, was that aimed at me?
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08:25.31[Liquidor]so.... not (A and B) = (not A) or (not B) ... not (A or B) = (not A) and (not B) ... so it could as well be ... not (A and B) = (not A) and (not B) ... or?
08:25.51[Liquidor]Don't hope B and ) will give you smilies as in my client - how stupid -.-
08:25.53ckknightno, [Liquidor]
08:26.09ckknightyour last statement is false
08:26.16renchapnot (A and B) = (not A) or (not B)
08:26.18ckknightjust read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Morgan's_laws
08:27.20Soulless_sorry i asked >_>
08:27.44[Liquidor]Ye I just did but don't get it anyway :>
08:28.06[Liquidor]I don't see where the word "law" comes into this.
08:28.28[Liquidor]1 + 1 = 2 -- Liquidor's Law if I was first to say that then? o.O
08:28.33KirkburnLaw means something that is unbreakable
08:29.00KirkburnThat which De Morgan describes is "the truth"
08:29.11Solehmm dammit ck
08:29.23SoleI want "GROUP" to exclude "BATTLEGROUND" but keep "PARTY" and "RAID"
08:29.28ckknightoh
08:29.29ckknightum
08:29.30Solein AceComm
08:29.32ckknightI don't know.
08:29.40KirkburnThe name is irrelevant, it's just named after the guy who wrote it down, I guess
08:29.43Solehaha
08:29.54evlLOL
08:29.58evli enjoy the new autobar
08:30.06evlfreezeaz up my game for 10 secs when i use a hotkey :)
08:30.08evll2test
08:30.20[Liquidor]l2report
08:30.28sylvanaarKirkburn: yeah
08:30.38Solefuck testing, drycoding ftw
08:30.42evl:D
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08:30.58evlthe amusing thing is that there's nothing in that slot
08:31.25Kirkburnsylvanaar, hmm, thinking about it, it shouldn't have any effect. The updater only works on Windows, and windows doesn't care for capitalisation
08:31.52ckknightproof by exhaustion proving `not (A and B) = (not A) or (not B)`
08:31.52ckknightA=0, B=0 : not (0 and 0) = not 0 = 1 => (not 0) or (not 0) = 1 or 1 = 1
08:31.53ckknightA=0, B=1 : not (0 and 1) = not 0 = 1 => (not 0) or (not 1) = 1 or 0 = 1
08:31.53ckknightA=1, B=0 : not (1 and 0) = not 0 = 1 => (not 1) or (not 0) = 0 or 1 = 1
08:31.53ckknightA=1, B=1 : not (1 and 1) = not 1 = 0 => (not 1) or (not 1) = 0 or 0 = 0
08:31.57KirkburnOn Linux, however, it'd probably complain
08:31.58ckknightthere, [Liquidor]
08:32.00ScoTTiewith alternate translations
08:32.00ckknightbelieve now.
08:32.10KirkburnPastey!
08:32.15ckknightnah.
08:32.17Kirkburnbiotch
08:32.21[Liquidor]You're a fast typer
08:32.27ckknightyou don't own me
08:32.29[Liquidor]Liek matrix
08:32.36ScoTTieso they need entrys in their RegisterTranslations() for things that arnt translated yet ?
08:32.40ScoTTiedo*
08:32.55ScoTTieor does it fallback
08:32.59ckknightScoTTie, falls back
08:33.04ckknightnice, eh?
08:33.08ScoTTievery ;)
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08:33.23ScoTTieonly started playing with Ace lastnight
08:33.31ckknightah, fun
08:33.36ScoTTieyou've got a mod for everything
08:33.39ScoTTiemakes life simple
08:33.41ckknightnot true
08:33.49ckknightwe still need Epeen Meter
08:33.50sylvanaaragree
08:33.53ckknightand a Quest log dealy.
08:33.54nymbiahehe
08:33.56ScoTTiehah ;p
08:34.01sylvanaarwith the not simple part
08:34.03renchaphttp://www.spiketv.com/events/vga2006/simulcast.html wow tbc opening
08:34.14Temrenchap, <3 polymorph
08:34.15ckknightas soon as I'm done the damn minimap notes...
08:34.15nymbiarenchap: i saw that.  pretty cool. :)
08:34.27Temckknight, why not use Astrolabe?
08:34.41Deviadckknight, I'm sorry, isn't that simple math logic?
08:34.49TemDeviad, not really
08:34.55ckknightDeviad, it is, it's De Morgan's Law
08:35.02Deviadlike 0 and 0 = 0
08:35.14Deviadnot (0 and 0) = 1
08:35.23Temthe mapping functions are a tangled mess of evil crap
08:35.28DeviadI studied it at modern algebra's course
08:35.29Deviad:D
08:35.58DeviadIt seams that sometimes that crap can be useful good
08:35.59Deviad:D
08:36.52DeviadWhere can I get a lua on-line book to learn the basics and start developing some basic stuff?
08:37.36ckknightDeviad, the pil
08:37.40Solewtf Im stupid, I cant see a way to easily figure out if the player is in a party or in a raid or neither
08:37.50ckknighthttp://www.lua.org/pil/
08:37.58[Liquidor]ckknight: not sure he knows what pil is if he asks a question like that :)
08:38.06Nargiddleysole, GetNumPartyMembers, GetNumRaidMembers
08:38.10DeviadI guess to learn like the "our lord pray" (padre nostro in Italian) the macro system
08:38.11ckknightSole, GetNumPartyMembers() > 0
08:38.15ckknightyea, Nargiddley's
08:38.15SoleO_O
08:38.19SoleI missed that :P
08:38.29lassizciIsn't it possible to hide targets from oRa PT list? :(
08:38.32Deviadwhat about the gui part? Is that embedded in lua?
08:38.49[Liquidor]Deviad: xml
08:39.09[Liquidor]or wait
08:39.12Deviad[Liquidor], I read somewhere with 2.0 you can do all by lua, does it require more efforts?
08:39.18[Liquidor]no xml
08:39.21[Liquidor]forget what I said :)
08:39.28Deviad:P
08:39.32[Liquidor]don't ever use xml, there yougo :>
08:39.43DeviadOK
08:39.53[Liquidor]first you learn how to use lua then you learn the API
08:39.59DeviadOK
08:40.06naeneeFirst you learn to walk, then you learn to run :P
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08:40.28DeviadOK, since I can handle c++ a lil bit I hope lua won't be harder
08:40.29Deviad:P
08:40.31[Liquidor]Deviad: lua first, then http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API
08:40.31renchapand then to mount a mecanostrider
08:40.48naenee;)
08:41.04[Liquidor]Deviad: to being with you can always use wowwiki as your ressource
08:41.09[Liquidor]resource* (whatever)
08:41.26DeviadOK, thx
08:41.39[Liquidor]Why can't we all just speak the same language, and I'm talking about the Danish lang. !!
08:41.41DeviadI wanna see how hard it is to program something like cryolysis, that's my final projectwork
08:41.41Deviad:D
08:41.59MoonWolfdeviad, some parts, not all that hard.
08:42.03MoonWolftimers are the tricky part.
08:42.13[Liquidor]timers? o.O
08:42.18[Liquidor]I find metatables the worst
08:42.24DeviadI suppose they can't be read with a loop
08:42.39Deviadlike they teach us at uni
08:43.26MoonWolf[Liquidor], how many metatables would be required for a project like cryolysis, none i would think.
08:43.30[Liquidor]Deviad: timing isn't that hard as MoonWolf claims. Everytime you have a frameupdate ingame (new frame) you just check wherether the current time excess the stored time + length
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08:43.39Wobin...
08:43.42[Liquidor]I was just talking in general :)
08:44.05MoonWolfWobin, ?
08:44.07DeviadIs there any gui or something to implement into eclipse
08:44.14Deviador any other thing like that to work with lua and debug?
08:44.20Wobinnah, xchat simply decided not to rejoin channels on reconnect
08:44.22Wobinit was odd
08:44.31MoonWolfah
08:44.36Deviadsorry for the wrong use of gui I meant IDE
08:44.37MoonWolfIt happens at times.
08:44.40Wobinoh and who griefed the german fubar translation?
08:44.42NickenyfikenDeviad: there is a lua plugin for Eclipse i think
08:44.46Wobinthere's an extra "
08:44.55Deviadmmm cool, I'll check it later
08:45.08Deviadeclipse has lots of plugins, I used it a bit for creating a compiler with ANTLR
08:45.13naeneeneenee
08:45.15naeneenaenee
08:45.19Deviadwas funny after all :D
08:45.26[Liquidor]Try google ;)
08:45.45Arrowmasterfor some people timers do seem to be tricky, ive lost count of the number of debuff timing mods ive tried that have always been off by a second or two
08:46.01Kaelten!google why me
08:46.04GoogleSearchWhy Me & Sherry's House ( http://www.whyme.org/ )
08:46.14[Liquidor]Woot a google bot
08:46.15Kaeltenlol
08:46.25[Liquidor]!google Kaelten goat sex
08:46.42DeviadDo I need to download lua's web book site with webzip or something or is there a pdf version?
08:46.44[Liquidor]:(
08:46.58Kaeltenit sends a pm if your not a voice or op
08:46.59Arrowmaster!google this wont work because im not oped or voiced
08:47.02[Liquidor]Deviad: pil (Programming in Lua) is all web
08:47.12[Liquidor]Kaelten: ye I found out
08:47.15sylvanaarArrowmaster: thats probably due more to varying skills or spell ranks no?
08:47.30Arrowmastersylvanaar: no
08:47.44[Liquidor]Deviad: but you can prolly find it in pdf or buy the book. afterall it _is_ a book :>
08:47.55ckknight!google goat sex
08:47.57GoogleSearchThe Sun Online - News: Man's sex with goat ( http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002050329,00.html )
08:48.03ckknighthrm
08:48.12[Liquidor]ckknight: you forgot a name !!
08:48.32ScoTTieanyone know if the Eye of the Storm zone is called just that ?
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08:48.58[Liquidor]ScoTTie: look in Babble-zone I guess?
08:49.14ScoTTieyeah im asking because its not there yet
08:49.14Arrowmastersylvanaar: when a timer is incorrect about banish, which is either 20 or 30 seconds, i consider it the fault of the mod not being coded properly when i find other mods that are exact on the time
08:49.30[Liquidor]["Eye of the Storm"] = true,
08:50.00[Liquidor]Arrowmaster: that must be
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08:50.31[Liquidor]ScoTTie: if you didn't like that then use ["Eye of the Storm"] = "Auge des Sturms", -- I don't care :)
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08:50.45ScoTTieyeah missed that ;p
08:50.52sylvanaarArrowmaster: ah i see, shrug
08:50.59ScoTTieill blame whoever didnt put the BC stuff in alphabetical order ;)
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08:51.26[Liquidor]ScoTTie: you should see the Babble-Boss one *rofl*
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08:51.39pastamancer~seen vhaar
08:51.56purli haven't seen 'vhaar', pastamancer
08:51.56[Liquidor]I think they've given up on ordering it
08:51.56[Liquidor]purl is gone eh?
08:52.03anenigmacan mendeleev (w/ periodictable) show vendor prices for stuff in tooltips?
08:52.05pastamancer~seen vhaarr
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08:52.21naeneetest
08:52.21naeneeok
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08:54.15[Liquidor]rofl what a nice convo you had in #curse-lua ckknight haha
08:54.19Deviad[Liquidor], good, I got all the website with flashget. So I can read it offline too :p
08:54.34lassizciHmm.. sRaidFrames's range check is nice, gief that to ctra
08:54.47Wobin[Liquidor]: what happened?
08:54.55ckknightyea
08:55.00ckknightthat guy was lame
08:55.03[Liquidor]Deviad: If/when you already know of C#/C++ you won't need more than a night reading PIL
08:55.09MoonWolfanenigma, no, it cannot.
08:55.32Barbanus~seen Barbanus
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08:55.48ckknightWobin, guy wanted to write an IRC client in WoW, I explained how he couldn't
08:55.48anenigmadamn.  thanks anyway moonwolf.
08:55.48MoonWolfTo be very honest, if I modified it to do so I might as well develop an entire now mod.
08:55.49DeviadYeah, I have to see the primary tipes
08:55.52Deviadint,long, double, short and so on
08:55.56Barbanus241 messages? wow
08:56.01Deviadloops, binary condition all that shit
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08:56.39Deviadhow to get input and print it
08:56.41[Liquidor]The conversation between ckknight  and the other guy: http://pastey.net/3547
08:56.58Deviadand print output*
08:57.47[Liquidor]Best part:
08:57.49[Liquidor]21[08:21] <devo> I can make the irc client do the talking
08:57.51[Liquidor]22[08:21] <devo> and the addon do the walking
08:58.12nymbiaholy jesus.  they upped gnome weapon scaling in 2.0.3
08:58.34DeviadThe fact that arrays are with no fixed size means that there is no way to create new data types like in Javascript?
08:58.46naeneeEr, gnomes do better depending on the size of the adversary?
08:58.57ckknightDeviad, um, ?
08:59.18[Liquidor]Deviad: not following you
08:59.34nymbiawell, the width of the hilt of my 1hand sword is now 3/4ths of my gnome's height.
08:59.43naeneeOh I see.
08:59.44Deviadckknight, Javascript is called a not tightly tipified language because it doesn't let you create new data types
08:59.48Barbanusckknight, but lua should allow me to communicate with the moon! The moon can then talk to the irc server, and then I'll just read the output!
08:59.58Deviadand in order to provide something like a list gives you non fixed arrays
09:00.00ckknightDeviad, you can sorta make new "types" in lua
09:00.04[Liquidor]It's all about variables, functions, tables, metatables, and the WoW API
09:00.14ckknighttables can become anything
09:00.21ckknightlol, Barbanus
09:00.23Deviadckknight, mmm OK
09:00.23Barbanusckknight, I can make the addon do the walking on the moon!
09:00.36Barbanus:P
09:00.52Soulless_us opers over at wowirc were talking about something like that
09:01.07[Liquidor]Soulless: walking on the moon?
09:01.09Soulless_since the ingame chat is already a pusdoirc network
09:01.11Soulless_nah
09:01.19Soulless_connecting irc >> wow chat
09:01.44Soulless_obviously, you'd need blizz support for anything like that to fly, but still
09:01.48nymbiahttp://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8233/wowscrnshot121406015942aw9.jpg
09:01.49Soulless_i'd be an intresting idea
09:02.03[Liquidor]nymbia: fake
09:02.08nymbiahttp://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5941/wowscrnshot121406015949ai7.jpg
09:02.12Temthis isn't the first time that's been suggested
09:02.49Soulless_well of course
09:02.52naeneenymbia: wow. That's crazy
09:02.54Barbanusfirst off .... thats mage gear .. hes duel wielding ... lol
09:03.00evlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4897
09:03.01evlfunny :)
09:03.05BarbanusSo yea .. thats fake :P
09:03.13evlJewelcrafting trinkets you can buy in Live
09:03.17BarbanusSomeone edited the data files :P
09:03.23TemBarbanus, actually, that looks like a Held In Offhand item
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09:03.38TemBarbanus, which is totally doable
09:03.46nymbiaBarnabus: that's MY mage.  it's an offhand from anub.
09:04.01Sroshmornin'
09:04.26Arrowmasternymbia: is that the aq gate questline sword?
09:04.31naeneeevl: yup, that black one is a nice addon to my instance-stealthing set :)
09:04.37Soulless_TIER 7 PICTURES LEAKED www.totallyawesomeness.com/tier7.jpg.exe !!!!
09:04.44Soulless_>_>
09:04.44nymbiaArrowmaster: yup
09:04.46MoonWolfWell, a interesting althoug useless project could be to implement irc in wow over addon communication channels.
09:04.47naeneeUm, no exes please :P
09:05.07Arrowmasternymbia: i want that sword.....
09:05.09[Liquidor]MoonWolf: done already
09:05.14nymbiaArrowmaster: :D
09:05.16Soulless_i just love all the hype that goes with wow
09:06.07Soulless_MoonWolf: there already exists an irc like network
09:06.17MoonWolflink ?
09:06.20Soulless_<PROTECTED>
09:06.35Soulless_you can join channels, ban people, password things
09:06.36Wobinoh man, I miss poisonfu
09:06.45MoonWolfno, i ment, implement the irc protocol not simply using the default channels.
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09:06.53Soulless_yeah
09:07.03Arrowmasterevl: hehe i found that black pearl panther trinket the night after the patch on live
09:07.21evlHas anyone read about Leatherworking in TBC? I only see Armorsmithing and Weaponsmithing are getting the goodies
09:07.38nymbiasomeone in my guild a while back was making a barebones wow chat client, that'd log in and let you chat text-only.  that'd be very illegal, though.  blizz would be pissed.
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09:07.44andremarArrowmaster: you are getting drums :p
09:08.00GngskWobin, I miss oApplication
09:08.13Arrowmasterandremar: i think you ment that for evl
09:08.21andremarArrowmaster: indeed I did
09:08.22benjdrguys i just updated barternder3, and i cant see how to set keybindings any more from the fubar menu. am i being blind?
09:08.24evlDrums.
09:08.25andremarevl: you are getting drums :p
09:08.49andremarbenjdr: go to Keybindings on your main menu
09:08.53xgravixdoes bartender make drinks for me?
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09:09.03Gngskonly for the cool kids
09:09.16andremarbenjdr: some are set as the multiaction bars that are standard blizz bars, the rest in special bartender section
09:09.44benjdrandremar: bar 1 doesn't appear to be in there. should i not be using bar 1?
09:09.46andremarevl: yeah, like 30 charges stuff that increases party AR and spelldmg for 2mins or something, with a cooldown
09:09.53andremarbenjdr: its the standard bar 1
09:10.00andremarall the way up towards the top
09:10.07andremarcant remember the exact name
09:10.20xgravixguys do you know why autloot only works once when you are disenchanting?
09:10.30nymbialooks like they changed container ids in 2.0.3 as well
09:10.36benjdrandremar: Action Bar :)
09:10.37Soulless_aqua teen is so awesome
09:10.38benjdrthanks very much
09:10.50benjdrwhy has it gone from the menu? that was a really nice feature
09:10.52andremarbenjdr: sounds about right :)
09:11.08andremardunno, I hated the menu myself
09:11.18andremarhaving all keybinds in one place = great
09:11.27andremarbut now autobar has gone and moved it into it own interface
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09:12.09benjdralso, can you change it bars are verticle or horizontal?
09:12.15benjdrcan tsee that functionality any more either
09:12.32andremarbenjdr: change the number of rows from 1 to 12
09:12.39benjdroh stupid me
09:13.39benjdrfor some reason when i upgraded all my bindings moved from bar 1 to 3, and from 2 to 4
09:14.01andremarsounds nice :)
09:14.09benjdryes lovely :)
09:16.17benjdrright lets go try solo hive regal
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09:16.30[Liquidor]Does the Arena WorldState frame have any custom columns?
09:17.42benjdrandremar: something else. Im using cyCircled, works fine, but when i cast a spell, the background of the button shows outside the cirlcle again.
09:17.50benjdrmuch like if i was using dreamlayout with cyCircled
09:19.12benjdrmaybe because i cant set the bar style to Default for some reason
09:19.19benjdralways stays on zoomed
09:21.17[Liquidor]Do I have to make a record of the session time or is there a function for that?
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09:25.10naenee:)
09:25.10Gngskget a job!
09:25.11naeneeI am at work
09:25.11shiftoslo, any t "Ace Admins" awoken?
09:25.23naeneeIt doesn't mean I can't listen to music
09:25.24benjdrace admins dont sleep
09:25.33naeneeThey hibernate :)
09:25.55shiftos:P
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09:26.43ElkanoOur name is legion since we are many... ;)
09:27.26naeneeIsn't it 'I am Legion'?
09:27.57shiftosthat wasn't  a Matheson's book? :P
09:28.56Soulless_how do you print something to the chatlog inside a script?
09:28.56naeneedum dee dum
09:29.16Soulless_like a /script version of /print?
09:29.17GngskChatFrame1:AddMessage("Hello World!")
09:29.24Soulless_ty
09:30.02GngskDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME is a global that refers to whichever ChatFrame happens to be the default, usually ChatFrame1
09:30.25Soulless_yeah i'm just playing with lua inside the game, i don't need to be particular
09:30.52Soulless_i suck with it, so im just playing inside the game to dbl check my syntax
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09:35.27benjdrbest ace quest addon?
09:35.45snurre-questfu?
09:36.03benjdrsdoes it change the quest from to make it not look like ass?
09:36.08benjdrframe*
09:36.29snurre-quest frame? hm, not really..
09:36.42[Liquidor]ckknight: http://pastey.net/3549
09:36.46snurre-get FramesResized tho
09:36.57benjdrok cheers
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09:38.24MoonWolfshiftos, what did you need ?
09:39.09shiftosMoonWolf: I'd need a SVN account, I'm actually translating almost everything in wowace into spanish
09:39.28MoonWolfemail Kaelten
09:39.51shiftoswell, already sent a mail to the "wowace admins", as stated in the SVN rules page
09:40.08shiftosanyway, no response so far, so I tried here to speed up things a bit
09:40.40[Liquidor]shiftos: spam Kaelten I guess
09:40.47shiftoshehe
09:41.08MoonWolfspamming gets you nowhere, a small nugde might.
09:41.16odtanyone know an ace addon to move the bg score frame?
09:41.34shiftosanyway, at least I've got a name now
09:41.45shiftosI'll try to talk to Kaelteen when he comes back
09:42.02nymbiaodt: Visor2 or KC_Mobility
09:42.34odtty
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09:43.13Kaeltenwhat did I do?
09:43.24shiftosoh, hi, Kaelten :)
09:43.25nymbia~blame Kaelten
09:43.35purlACTION blames Kaelten (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
09:43.38Kaeltenum... blame.... sedatedChipmunk
09:43.54Soulless_is !~= a valid comparison string?
09:44.00MoonWolfi doubt it
09:44.07nymbia~blame sedatedChipmunk
09:44.11purlACTION blames sedatedChipmunk (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
09:44.55[Liquidor]~blame purl
09:44.57purlACTION blames purl (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
09:45.16naenee~hug naenee
09:45.18purlACTION sneaks up on naenee and suddenly hugs naenee tightly
09:45.20naeneeaww
09:45.24naeneeOh well.
09:45.26naeneeyay
09:45.26[Liquidor]awww cute
09:45.28naenee:)
09:45.28nymbiahehe
09:46.08MoonWolf~botsnack
09:46.08purlthanks, MoonWolf
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09:49.08[Liquidor]making a variable local, is it called in file-only or addon-only?
09:50.04Nargiddleyfile
09:50.16Soulless_anybody bored and wanna tell me why http://ace.pastey.net/3550 won't work?
09:50.48Soulless_i'm trying to make my buffs/debuff slots shrink to 0x0 when they contain nothing
09:50.56MoonWolf[Liquidor], that or function or loop or block only.
09:51.18MoonWolfbut a local is alway's limited to the scope of the file.
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09:56.24Solehmmm
09:56.34Solewell it seems like I might have a basic module check done
09:56.48Solegoddam that was slightly more complicated then I thought it would be
09:57.13nymbiahehe
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09:57.25xgravixeverything is more compl
09:57.30abbat_wmorning guys
09:57.31[Liquidor]How do I set a varable over several lines?
09:57.42Soleyou mean a table?
09:57.43Nargiddleyhow do you mean ?
09:57.46[Liquidor]uhm
09:57.53MoonWolfif it is a string value you can use [[ ]]
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09:57.57[Liquidor]var = "xxxxxxx
09:57.59[Liquidor]xxxxxx";
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09:58.06MoonWolfvar = [[ xxxxxxxx
09:58.07Solethats one long string
09:58.09MoonWolf<PROTECTED>
09:58.14snurre-anyone know when cyCircled will work on petbar? :/
09:58.15[Liquidor]Thanks :)
09:58.27MoonWolfnp
09:58.31[Liquidor]It's only within lua aight? I won't have any new line on output?
09:58.39GeGGood Morning
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09:59.03MoonWolfeeeuh, it will have a new line in output if that is supported in the way you are outputting it.
09:59.22[Liquidor]ehuhuehehehhe ok
09:59.24[Liquidor]:-(
09:59.29[Liquidor]:-/*
10:00.25[Liquidor][[ ]] instead of " " or "[[ ]]" ?
10:00.45MoonWolf[[ ]] instead of it " "
10:00.55MoonWolfWe can delimit literal strings also by matching double square brackets [[...]]. Literals in this bracketed form may run for several lines, may nest, and do not interpret escape sequences. Moreover, this form ignores the first character of the string when this character is a newline. This form is especially convenient for writing strings that contain program pieces; for instance,
10:01.24GeGi have a question regarting bartender3 ... the bag and stance bar are not visible ...  
10:01.48MoonWolfsounds like a statement to me
10:01.49[Liquidor]MoonWolf: ignoring indenting?
10:02.05MoonWolfhmmm
10:02.12MoonWolfnever actually used it, i assume not.
10:02.25[Liquidor]never used indent?
10:02.46MoonWolfnever used [[ and ]]
10:02.49[Liquidor]Can't imagine how your files look like then :) *kidding*
10:03.08[Liquidor]You prolly don't use newline when coding either, aight? :P
10:03.12MoonWolfi can show you.
10:03.15[Liquidor]like the entire file in one line
10:03.32MoonWolfhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Mendeleev/
10:03.33MoonWolfthese are my files.
10:03.38[Liquidor]It's ok, I get it. Just needed to know about the brackets
10:04.35Soleckknight, ping
10:04.55Solealright maybe someone else knows the answer
10:05.16Soleessentialy Im stuck with only 1 prefix when using AceComm, correct?
10:07.25Soledamn
10:07.45Soleguess the silence means gtfo :)
10:07.57oxmanwhat the name of standard pet frame ?
10:08.02oxmanPetActionFrame ?
10:08.23oxmanA friend have a bug, the bar is hide, He wants use something like /script PetActionFrame:Show()
10:09.11SolePetActionBarFrame
10:09.15oxmanthanks
10:09.21Sole:)
10:09.23oxman:)
10:09.30Sole:) :)
10:10.01MoonWolfSole, personally, i know absolutly nothing about acecomm or the comm protocoll.
10:10.49Soleheh intially I thought it was a small, simple thing but turns out its not ;(
10:11.06SoleI need my ck here :)
10:11.28Soleso many questions
10:11.51Solelike does IsUserInChannel only return people who are running AceComm?
10:12.50Soleoh well I guess Ill try to make this whole thing work first and then worry about using the most efficient approach
10:13.17Sun\Netherotravi : refill flash powder = 40 doesn't work :p
10:14.18abbat_wbtw guys. are parts of UI (BT3 buttons for example) is global? Can i address it directly?
10:14.24Sun\Netherhaste: otravi, refilling flash powder to 40 doesn't work, it refilled me to 27 ...
10:15.09abbat_wFor example i want to change font of BT3 hotkeys but won't change bt3 source code. Can i do it from my own mod?
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10:15.30Nargiddleyframes have a global the same as thier name pointing to them
10:16.18abbat_wAh, thanks
10:16.42Nargiddleyunless someones done something weird like create lots of frames with the same name heh
10:17.01abbat_wBtw it is possible to create ui elements with object scope? Like private methods in objects?
10:17.11[Liquidor]Is [" "] nescesary in this case? MyTable = { ["SubTable"] = { ["Alpha"] = 1, ["Beta"] = 2 }, ["SubTable2"] = { ["Alpha"] = 1, ["Beta"] = 2 } }
10:17.34Nargiddleyyes abbat_w
10:17.55abbat_wOh, nice
10:18.04Nargiddleygive createframe nil as a name, you'll have the only reference to it
10:18.25Nargiddleywill still be in the list of frames that bliz keeps tho, cant get around that afaik
10:18.32Nargiddleybut wont have a global
10:19.08abbat_wAnd another question. If i make hooking some events, this events also already was hooking. WoW create queue for hooks and execute it in order?
10:19.32Nargiddleyhooking with what ?
10:20.00abbat_wIn other words if 2 mods hooks same event, wow process each hook in order?
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10:20.32Icerothyou hook functions, you listen events, which one are you doing?)
10:20.40Nargiddleyhooking how ?
10:20.42CIA-1703shiftos * r20520 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.toc: BanzaiAlert - added a note in spanish to the .toc (shiftos)
10:21.15abbat_wOk. ModA listen event A. ModB listen event A
10:21.53CIA-1703shiftos * r20521 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert - updated spanish translation (shiftos)
10:21.57Iceroththe order is not guaranteed
10:22.04Icerothwhich can be a pain in the ass at times
10:22.09abbat_wDamn ;(
10:22.13KaeltenIceroth: you make IceHud?
10:22.18Iceroththat's me
10:22.22BarDwellrIceroth: you hook functions, you listen events, you hang around in bars ?
10:22.29abbat_wIceroth, thanks. Thats all what i want ot know
10:22.39Icerothbars are cool
10:23.01abbat_wAnd no way to do some order?
10:23.14SoleIMO shiftos should do a spanish localization of Antagonist
10:23.21KaeltenIceroth: is their an exp bar that I'm missing somewhere?
10:23.28Solewait, do we even have a spanish table in BabbleSpell?
10:23.31shiftosSole, lol
10:23.33[Liquidor]Anyone know the acronym of the upcomming Eye of the Storm bg?
10:23.39Icerothwell you could hook to the function in mod B that handles the event, that way you know the order for sure
10:24.02IcerothKaelten, no exp bar, FuXPFu(?) ftw :)
10:24.02shiftossole, I'm working in babble right now, mainly just bosses and spells are left (the big ones)
10:24.30KaeltenIceroth: hehe I know its just... i... want one on the hud :(
10:24.35IcerothO.o
10:24.42Kaeltenlol
10:24.46Kaeltencall me anal
10:24.51Icerothwhy would you want an xp bar in the hud :p
10:25.20Icerothi mean, it would probably be the easiest thing to implement but why why why?
10:25.28Solelol
10:25.34Kaeltenhrm, because I like to keep an eye on my exp
10:25.42Kaeltenplus I'm used to having KC_PlayerFramePlus
10:25.47Kaeltenwhich put it on my playerframe
10:26.11Kaeltenso, this has been replacing my playerframe , and I miss the corresponding xp meter
10:26.27Kaeltenthat and fubarxp doesn't put a % amount in a easily readable place
10:26.38Soleshiftos, have fun :)  I added all the spells for BC to Babble-Spell and that was a fairly long process
10:27.03Icerothhmh.. well ok, i'll take a look at it once i get home, as i said, it shouldn't really be a problem to add one
10:27.38KaeltenIceroth: deciding on a position is probably the hardest thing
10:27.46shiftossole, i love you too :P
10:28.01Iceroththat's why you can move them yourself :)
10:28.07Sun\Netherthe "xxx has been blocked from an action only available to the blizzard ui" thing seems to happen a lot with ace2
10:28.14Sun\Nethershould i update the libraries or something ?
10:28.28Icerothi haven't had that in ages
10:28.39Sun\Netheri'm looting mob and the bg addon capping is spamming that to me each time i loot
10:29.29Sun\Netherlet me try to disable "xloot" just in case :p
10:30.21Sun\Netherok it's xloot not capping :)
10:30.32Nargiddleythat reminds me
10:30.51NargiddleyXuerian, you there ?
10:32.21odtFuBar\\FuBar-Locale-deDE.lua:17: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 2) near 'Hintergrund'
10:32.39Kaeltenwho liked the estimated time display in auctioneer?
10:33.13Sole<
10:33.28Icerothi want an AH mod that shows price per unit! damnit!
10:33.38KaeltenIceroth: ok
10:33.42SoleKC_Items?
10:33.45KaeltenI'm in process of rewriting KC_Items
10:33.50Soleyay
10:33.56andremaryes, thats what I missed the most with auctioneer as well
10:34.00Kaeltenand the auction app is getting a major overhaul
10:34.02MoonWolfme
10:34.04Miles|zzzgiev rundown ktnx?
10:34.09Icerothi had some really simple one which did just that but broke skinner in the process
10:34.14MoonWolfi liked being able to walk away and know when to return.
10:34.15andremarI missed it so bad that I hacked up the Fizzwidget shoppinglist addon to show me price per unit
10:34.35Kaeltenlol
10:34.57andremarand the shoppinglist addon was cool
10:35.12Kaeltenwell KC_Auction is getting renamed AuctionSpy and is bundling the functionality of the old broker module in as well
10:35.13[Liquidor]Is tbl = {} -- tbl = { ["subtbl"] = {1,2} } okay to do or do I have to do it like this: tbl = {} -- tbl["subtbl"] = {} -- tbl = { ["subtbl"] = {1,2} } ?
10:35.33Kaelten[Liquidor]: either works
10:35.50Kaeltenbut the first one causes a complete resignment of the table
10:36.11[Liquidor]erhm
10:36.17[Liquidor]explain please
10:36.25Icerothdoesn't the 2nd one too? tbl = {}
10:36.30Soletbl = {}     makes the ttable empy
10:36.32Soleempty*
10:36.39MoonWolftbl = {} ; causes a new empty table to be created in tbl
10:36.42Kaeltenif you tbl = {} tbl = { subtable = {1,2} } and then went back on and tbl = { subtable2 = {3, 4} }
10:36.49Kaeltenyou erase the tbl value each time
10:36.49[Liquidor]ye but isn't it needed to "create" the table before storing data into it?
10:37.06Kaelten[Liquidor]: any of those three statemetns I put down is valid
10:37.12Kaeltenby itself
10:37.14Soleonly if it will have a table nested inside it
10:37.30snurre-meh, wtb cyCircled on my petbar :(
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10:37.47Kaelten[Liquidor]: if you did tbl = {} tbl.subtable = {values} you can too
10:37.48odtsnurre-: that will eventuall happen
10:37.51MoonWolfsnurre-, feel free to make it do so in a branch
10:37.54[Liquidor]tbl = {} tbl = { subtable = {1,2}, subtable2 = {3,4} } then (for the example above)
10:37.56[Liquidor]or?
10:38.00snurre-i can't make it :p
10:38.05Kaeltendrop the first assignment
10:38.08andremarsure you can, go go go!
10:38.08andremar:p
10:38.10[Liquidor]anyway, is it needed to "create" a table before inserting?
10:38.12MoonWolflocally then.
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10:38.24Kaelten[Liquidor]: depends on the method of inserting
10:38.34Soleyou dont need the fist assignment unless you wanna clear the table before assigning those values
10:38.41Kaeltenif you do tbl = { stuff } you're creating a whole new table
10:38.44MoonWolfdepends, but you do need to if you try it like this tbl.value = "stuff".
10:38.57Kaeltennow if you to tbl["key] = value
10:39.02[Liquidor]I know that !!! woot I'm talking about the VERY first time I'm TOUCHING the table
10:39.05Soulless_anybody here use vim?
10:39.12Soledepends
10:39.20Soledo you want the table to have intial values?
10:39.27Kaeltentbl = { subtable = {1,2}, subtable2 = {3,4} }
10:39.28Solebecause you just do  tbl = {values}
10:39.35Solewhat Kael said
10:39.50[Liquidor]Okay
10:39.51Kaeltentbl = { subtable = {1,2}, subtable2 = {3,4} } creates a table with those inital values, it does not require any pre creation of the table
10:40.16MoonWolfindeed
10:40.20[Liquidor]What if I want to do it with OO ?
10:40.28Soledont touch the beast
10:40.35IcerothOO isn't a beast :)
10:40.39Sole:P
10:40.46[Liquidor]func alpha:bravo() end -- is alpha needed to be created here?
10:40.56MoonWolfyes.
10:40.57[Liquidor]"created"*
10:41.01Soleyer
10:41.10MoonWolfAlpha will have to be a table before you can do that.
10:41.17Kaelten[Liquidor]: well it either has to be created or be in scope
10:41.20Solealpha is a class, bravo the method  or am I stupid?
10:41.26[Liquidor]Okay, that was my final goal of this convo :)
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10:41.34Solefor that to work the class has to be created first
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10:41.55KaeltenSole: well all classes/objects in lua are fancy tables :)
10:42.00MoonWolfAlpha is a table and bravo a function. default lua does not have classes or methods.
10:42.14Soleok
10:42.17Icerothuse the AceOO, it's neat :)
10:42.20[Liquidor]alpha is a class, bravo the method or am I stupid? -- usually "1 or 1 = true" :>
10:42.22Solemakes sense
10:42.27[Liquidor]...to SoL
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10:42.32Sole=]
10:42.35[Liquidor]wtf who's named SoL?
10:42.39[Liquidor]-.-
10:42.40Solesome fag
10:42.53[Liquidor]usually 3 letters are enough for tabbing, argh
10:43.14Kirkburn|afkThere's too many people in these channels nowadays ...
10:43.26[Liquidor]Kaelten>Sole: well all classes/objects in lua are fancy tables :) -- that's why I got it a bit mixed up
10:43.26Kirkburn|afkIt's unseemly!
10:43.45[Liquidor]~seen SoL
10:44.15purlsol <n=sol@unaffiliated/sol> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 67d 16h 19m 55s ago, saying: 'I'm off'.
10:44.15SoleIceroth: Id use AceOO if I were working on an addon which had a whole lot of the same different thing
10:44.15[Liquidor]purl dead or am I doing it wrong?
10:44.23Sole~poke purl
10:44.25purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
10:44.25Sole~whalestab purl
10:44.26purlACTION stabs purl with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
10:44.30Icerothlol, he's really off :p
10:44.38Solelol
10:44.49[Liquidor]67d way to go
10:45.01Solebleh I need ck
10:45.09Soleor someone who has worked with AceComm :(
10:45.26[Liquidor]well let's ~seen everyone in here and see who we can kick *yarr*
10:46.03Solethe documentation for AceComm seems to be missing some parts on how to set up a table of methods for recieving comm messages
10:46.24Icerothgah, 3 restaurants at the campus area and none of them serves any edible food.. _that's_ the reason i'm never here
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10:47.29CIA-1703kaelten * r20526 10Ace2/ (AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua):
10:47.29CIA-17Ace2 -
10:47.29CIA-17Patch on the Spanish translations.
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10:48.13[Liquidor]Any of you got a scoreboard screenshot?
10:48.57SP|Sorrenof any battlefield scoreboard?
10:49.22[Liquidor]ye
10:49.29SP|Sorrensec
10:49.49Soullesswww.fridgid.com/patch/error1.jpg maybe
10:50.28phyberthat's a picture of an IIS 404 page.
10:50.37Icerothno, it's really the error page :)
10:50.44phyber;)
10:50.56Soullesslemmie check my ftp
10:51.00Soullessthat was going from memory
10:51.06Soullessi said maybe >_>
10:51.18Soullesswww.fridgid.com/patch/error001.jpg
10:51.31Soullessarg thats not it
10:52.11Soullesshttp://www.fridgid.com/patch/prat4.jpg
10:52.13Soullesstheres one
10:52.15CIA-1703shiftos * r20527 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster-esES.lua: ErrorMonster - updated spanish translation (shiftos)
10:52.15CIA-1703shiftos * r20528 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.toc: ErrorMonster - added note in spanish to .toc(shiftos)
10:52.30Soullessand shush about my ui or i'll kill you all
10:53.01andremaromg the colors! :p
10:53.04SP|Sorrenhttp://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8097/scorein3.jpg warsong screen
10:53.06SP|Sorren;o
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10:53.40Soullessoh shit, you wanted the actual scoreboard lol, i suck >_>
10:54.14SP|Sorrenthe colors aren't natural though, i think that's honorfu
10:54.22SP|Sorrenor maybe battlegroundfu
10:54.32chuckgHonorFu.
10:54.45[Liquidor]It's fine that img
10:54.47[Liquidor]thanks
10:54.48Soullesshonorfu needs an update <_<
10:55.22MoonWolfSoulless, why ?
10:55.34SP|Sorrenworks well enough for me
10:55.41naeneeFor me too
10:56.07Soullessit doesn't really, i just want the click target stuff back
10:56.27naeneeSoulless: which font are you using?
10:56.43Soullessfor what? you mean clearfont?
10:57.03naeneeYes, is that just the standard one included?
10:57.12Soullessnot sure lemmie check
10:57.19Soullesspretty sure im using a font form an older version
10:57.34naeneeoki
10:57.36phyberyeah, looks like the crappy "almost Calibri_v1 but not quite" font.
10:57.48Soullessim using a font called perspectivesans for everything except for my chat log
10:57.52phyberor it's an older version of Calibri
10:57.57naeneeWell, a font isn't good just because it has a certain name :P :)
10:58.01naeneeplo
10:58.23Soullessi couldn't use it for my log b/c i use timestamps
10:58.27CIA-1703shiftos * r20529 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-esES.lua: ag_UnitFrames - added spanish (esES) translation (shiftos)
10:58.29Soullessand the numbers aren't fixed width
10:58.37naeneeThat's okay.
10:58.45Soullessmy chatlog is set to use lucidagrade if it matters
10:58.56naeneeI was mainly looking at the Fubar font
10:59.08Soullessyeah its PS for everything else
10:59.21naeneeBut mine might look bad because I have that many plugins on it, resulting in me setting a smaller fontsize to make them fit
10:59.22CIA-1703shiftos * r20530 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames - added a note in spanish to the .toc (shiftos)
10:59.25naeneethanks :)
10:59.41Soullessthats slightly scaled down but not much
10:59.57SP|SorrenSoulless: what's that error frame? ;o
11:00.10Soullessrdx6's error handler
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11:00.28Soullesswell actually, its from VFL which is the library addon for rdx
11:00.35SP|Sorrenah
11:00.42Soullessi believe VFL is open to everybody
11:00.49Soullessrdx6 is not
11:00.55CIA-1703shiftos * r20531 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames - spanish translation now included in the .toc (shiftos)
11:01.59SoullessSP|Sorren: ckk didn't like that error frame >_>  he told me I had to get bugsack lol
11:02.16SP|Sorreni like bugsack ;P
11:02.30SP|Sorreni love that it uses the worms sound
11:02.35SP|Sorrenseals the deal right there.
11:03.17Soullessmeh, mods don't need sounds imo well most anyways
11:03.17vhaarrWhat kind of crap error display is that?
11:03.17markvthanks for reminding me, i had to mute that stupid bugsack sound.
11:03.17vhaarrBugSack pwns it hands down.
11:03.31SP|Sorrenmarkv, why :(
11:03.45Soullessw/e
11:03.55Soullessthe display for bugsack is shit
11:03.55SP|Sorreni would miss a lot of errors if that sound was muted :/
11:04.17vhaarrSoulless: What's wrong with it?
11:04.17Soullessits prob just skinner not loving it enough, but frames overwrite each other
11:04.28Solethe info from bugsack is hella pro though
11:04.30vhaarrWorks fine with Skinner here.
11:04.38Soullessi'll show you a screen sec
11:04.42Soullesslemmie break something
11:05.00Soleanyway gnite guys
11:05.01markvi am going to learn some lua this weekend i think, i really wish battlegroundfu had an autojoin when the queue msg comes up, i miss that from honor+ for titan panel
11:05.14markvso i think i'll learn lua by modding that persons mod!
11:05.23SP|Sorrenhave fun :)
11:05.36Soullessmarkv: it sucks, or maybe its just me
11:05.41markvwhat sucks?
11:05.49CIA-1703kaelten 07Ace2 * r20532 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:05.49CIA-17KC_Items (Ace 2) -
11:05.49CIA-17- Incremental Commit
11:05.50markvbattlegroundfu?
11:05.53Soullesslearning lua by editing other peoples shiz
11:05.55markvoh
11:06.02xgravixwhy
11:06.22markvi dunno, automaton already has the queue stuff in it, and so i'm just gonna look at splicing it in for a starting point.
11:06.22Soullessi dunno, i always seem to spend a lot of time doing stupid shit
11:06.37xgravixlua is ez
11:06.38markvbut automaton just automates way too much shit
11:06.40Soullessi've been playing with like 20 lines of code for the past two hours and i can't get it to work
11:06.44Soullessim a noob thou
11:06.53markvyeah lua looks pretty straight forward, no more difficult than what telix scripting was like back in the day
11:07.13markvand i used to script in telix non-stop, i had some awesome tw2002 scripts
11:07.14CIA-1703shiftos * r20533 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Class-2.2/Babble-Class-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2 - updated spanish translation in Class (shiftos)
11:07.14xgravixif you ever used a scripting language it is very similar
11:07.36Soullesswww.fridgid.com/patch/trash.jpg
11:07.37[Liquidor]Does ranking even exist any longer? You know, Private to Grand Marshal ranks?
11:07.38markvthe script would map out sectors and priem trade routes for me while i was exploring
11:07.45CIA-1703shiftos * r20534 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2 - updated spanish translation in Zone (shiftos)
11:07.51markvwithin a week i'd have the best margins mapped and off to making a fortune over the ofllowing week
11:07.54SP|Sorren[Liquidor]: sorta
11:08.01SP|Sorrenyou're permanently stuck at your highest lifetime rank
11:08.02SP|Sorreni hear
11:08.08markvand by week 3 i was dominating the low # sectors and holding the game hostage
11:08.17CIA-1703shiftos * r20535 10Babble-2.2/Babble-SpellTree-2.2/Babble-SpellTree-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2 - added spanish translation to SpellTree (shiftos)
11:08.20[Liquidor]Okay but it isn't for any use any longer aight?
11:08.27SP|Sorrenand your rank on bg score boards is permanently stuck at whatever rank you on the day of the patch
11:08.34SP|Sorrennot for anything but your title ;P
11:08.46CIA-1703shiftos * r20536 10Babble-2.2/Babble-2.2.toc: Babble-2.2 - added spanish note to .toc (shiftos)
11:08.46markvthank god i was saved at rank 3 or higher!
11:08.49Soullesssee that? it the stuff at the top doesn't line up with bugsack there
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11:09.09vhaarrhow horrible
11:09.27Soullesslol, im just sayin
11:09.40Soullessi dunno, both work fine tbh
11:09.50vhaarrLooks good here, I don't have that problem.
11:10.05Soullessyou see what im talking about thou?
11:10.13vhaarrI see it, yes.
11:10.42Soullesswhy does my shit never look like your shit lol
11:11.00Soullessit doesn't matter thou
11:11.24Soullesscuz bugsack gets run first, well the grabber anyways, so vfl doesn't ge toe set itself as the error handler
11:11.27CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r20537 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Removed debug message ugh...
11:14.02Kaelten<PROTECTED>
11:14.10Soulless_if (not (button.oldh ~= button:GetHeight())) then
11:14.10Kaeltenor very very few
11:14.24Soulless_that if statment will work no?
11:14.50Kaeltenum it will
11:14.53Kaeltenbut its a double negative
11:15.13SroshRophy, latest rev of SCL no longer suppresses Blizzard's combat log (and the toggle for it is gone from the menu)
11:15.17Kaeltenif button.oldh == button:GetHeight() then would be the same thing
11:15.40Soulless_wait ~= means not =?
11:15.50Kaeltenin lua it does
11:15.55Kaeltenor am I going crazy
11:15.57Kaelten....
11:15.57[Liquidor]Date, ZoneName, IsArena, CharLevel, Players, KillingBlows, HonorKills, Deaths,  Honor,  BonusHonor, DamageDone, HealingDone, DamageCrits, HealingCrits, Winner, TimePlayed, TimeElapsed, TimeSprit
11:15.57Soulless_well shit, thats my prob
11:16.02Soulless_ty
11:16.03vhaarryes, ~= means not
11:16.06Kaeltenyep
11:16.09[Liquidor]Any other ideas of data to record? I'm kinda clueless now
11:16.17Soulless_how do you say like roughly equal
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11:16.31Soulless_like how would you compar 4.99999 to 5 and have it return true
11:16.40vhaarrmath.ceil(x) == 5
11:16.51SP|Sorrenwell
11:17.01Kaeltenbut I'm guessing you'd want 4.2222 and 4 to be true as well
11:17.25SP|Sorrenif you want a range then just do if math.abs(x-y) < 0.5 then return true etc;
11:17.27Soulless_well, lua seems to create weird epsilon numbers past like the 5th digit
11:17.39Soulless_so i just wanted to make sure that they'd still be equal
11:17.57Kaeltenlua is weird in many regards
11:17.59Kaeltenbut its fun too
11:18.04Soulless_like if i set something = 14
11:18.08Soulless_and then have it print it
11:18.13Soulless_it does like 14.000000002353282
11:18.17Kaeltenhrm.
11:18.18Kaeltenit does?
11:18.20SP|Sorrenreally?
11:18.20[Liquidor]eh?
11:18.23SP|Sorreni've never had that happen
11:18.31[Liquidor]how would you know btw?
11:18.35Soulless_maybe im doing something else wrong lol
11:18.39[Liquidor]hehe
11:18.50RophySrosh: yes, I removed it.
11:18.52Soulless_i was playing around with /script commands
11:18.56vhaarr14 = 14, not 14.0000000whatever.
11:19.02Soulless_right
11:19.02KaeltenSoulless: I can't reproduce it either
11:19.04vhaarryou're doing something weird
11:19.08[Liquidor]so far the only number I got with that many digits is the time event
11:19.25SroshRophy, why?
11:19.36Kaeltennow If you're going by the numbers /print spits out
11:19.38vhaarrSrosh: You can remove the default combat log yourself.
11:19.45Soulless_Kaelten: i am
11:19.46RophyBecause I still can't figure out a way to do it without tainting.
11:20.15KaeltenSoulless: I had something like that happen too, but it wasn't accurate values
11:20.19KaeltenI think it has a bug in it
11:20.26Soulless_ok
11:20.50Soulless_well my lua is really shit, so i read other code, try to understand it, and when i want to do something i'll test it ingame first
11:20.52RophySrosh: you can disable the default combatlogs with the built in Blizzard chatframe options, or create another chatframe to show SCL messages.
11:21.08Soulless_i was using /print so show me memory values
11:21.17Kaeltenya
11:21.25Kaeltenits a newer feature so it probably has a kink out of it
11:21.26Kaeltenlike
11:21.30Soulless_ah
11:21.30Kaelten<PROTECTED>
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11:21.32Sroshby deselecting all filter options I guess?
11:21.35Kaeltenprints three bad vlaues
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11:22.05[Liquidor]People....
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11:22.14[Liquidor]...what do you call, nvm found out
11:22.17[Liquidor]lol
11:22.19Soulless_like Nurfed_targetbuff1.oldh should be setting itself to 14
11:22.21Soulless_but its not
11:22.28Soulless_its returning 14.0000000023432
11:22.39SP|Sorrenhow is it setting itself?
11:23.06Soulless_inside the buff iterator
11:23.16Soulless_it reads a layout.lua file
11:23.27Soulless_and creates the frames based on what it finds
11:23.47Soulless_no worries, i'm pretty sure the ~= was what was screwing me up
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11:26.32Soulless_so what comparison operators are there in lua
11:26.44Soulless_like == ~=
11:26.49Soulless_is != valid?
11:27.01Soulless_>= > etc
11:27.05Kaeltenhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.1
11:27.05CIA-1703uruloke * r20538 10ArcHUD2/Core.lua:
11:27.06CIA-17ArcHUD2:
11:27.06CIA-17* Fixed error when changing configuration
11:27.17Kaeltenthere ya go soulless
11:27.35Soulless_ok, i totally looked thru that before and couldn't find that >_<
11:27.47Kaeltenhehe
11:27.51KaeltenI've had more practice
11:28.07Soulless_ps remake MG >_> <_<
11:28.30KaeltenMG?
11:28.40Soulless_minigroup
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11:28.49Kaeltenhrm there was a Minigroup2
11:28.53Kaeltennot sure what happened to it
11:28.58vhaarrag_UF is the continuation of MG2.
11:29.03Soulless_meh
11:29.03Kaeltenah
11:29.11Soulless_i think ag_uf is a great addon
11:29.11KaeltenI'm workin on KCI
11:29.15Soulless_but i liked MG2 a lot better
11:29.24vhaarrI think someone tried to convert it to 2.0
11:29.27vhaarrgo dig
11:29.35Kaeltenbeating my head against auction scanning again
11:29.46Soulless_i dunnno, i'm pretty happy with nurfed uf
11:29.48Kaeltenyou'd figure after writing the auction scanning code 3 times I'd be good at it by now
11:30.20UrulokeThe old auction scanning code had some issues...
11:30.24Soulless_i like custom ufs, but discord was way too tedious, i like nurfed b/c i cna just edit one file and import it and bam
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11:30.49naeneeKaelten: Hm. The version I tried had no problem with scanning, though I did not complete the scan at the time.
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11:32.21Soulless_if i were to make a list of the top 5 things i hate about browsing the internet: layerd "popups" would probably be #1
11:32.37Kaeltennaenee: actually a few other users are helping maintain the old KCI
11:32.45Kaeltenwhile I work on the new one
11:32.49naeneeAh, okay
11:32.59naeneeThen I must have tried the one you are not working on at the moment.
11:33.02Kaeltennaenee: I think they got some of that stuff fixed
11:33.16evlWouldn't it be nice if AutoBarConfig was a module in AutoBar?
11:33.17CIA-1703shiftos * r20539 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
11:33.17CIA-17AutoBar:
11:33.18CIA-17- added spanish (esES) translation (shiftos)
11:33.21evlI really hate those double folders!
11:33.55CIA-1703shiftos * r20540 10AutoBar/AutoBar.toc:
11:33.55CIA-17AutoBar:
11:33.55CIA-17- added spanish file to the .toc (shiftos)
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11:34.10naeneeKaelten: okidoki :)
11:34.18vhaarrevl: Then it couldn't be LoD.
11:34.47evlIsn't it possible to make the modules system also adhere to LoD?
11:35.04Soulless_LoD?
11:35.12UrulokeLoad on demand
11:36.32Soulless_Kaelten: god, i can't believe i've been stairing at this for like 2 hours and it was that stupid, ty for the ~= info lol
11:36.57Xelarany one know if there is a addon like forgotenchat that works with v2 ?
11:37.07phreakyWhat does it do Xelar? =)
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11:37.20SP|Sorrenis there an ace AllInOneInventory type mod?
11:37.26Mahiroanybody has a huge lag when av is finished an everybody leaves?
11:37.31SP|SorrenXelar: WIM
11:37.37SP|Sorrenwarcraft instant messanger ;o
11:37.45naeneeI like wim :)
11:37.50SP|Sorrenits pretty
11:37.51phreakySorren: Try OneBag
11:37.56phreakyand OneBank
11:37.56CIA-1703shiftos * r20541 10FuBar/FuBar-Locale-esES.lua: FuBar - added spanish (esES) translation (shiftos)
11:37.57naeneeBut it produces an error when I do something with the AuctionHouse
11:38.01SP|Sorrencool
11:38.03SP|Sorrenit does?
11:38.09XelarSP|Sorren: hmm
11:38.12UrulokevBagnon is awesome bag/bank addont oo
11:38.14Uruloketoo*
11:38.20phreakyOneBank/Bag > All! :)
11:38.29Xelaris it on the wowace site ?
11:38.35phreakyyea
11:38.40CIA-1703shiftos * r20542 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: FuBar - spanish (esES) translation added to the .toc (shiftos)
11:38.41naeneeI find myself choosing Ace addons over other addons simply because they're so easily kept up to date :)
11:38.49phreakythey are indeed =)
11:39.26SP|Sorren<3 WAU
11:39.40Xelarthat mod was like uber sweet ;D
11:39.48Xelarfound it on curse-gaming :D
11:39.53UrulokeWAU?
11:40.00Xelareven sweether then forgotenchat :P
11:40.07XelarWIM
11:40.08naeneeI used Forgottenchat before it :)
11:40.14SP|Sorrenme2
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11:40.22naeneeI do think the WIM windows are a bit big though
11:40.31naeneeI was hoping disabling the class logo would remove that hump
11:40.47naeneeMaybe I can try to edit the graphics and make it just have a slim border
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11:41.00KaeltenSoulless_: np
11:41.02Kaelten:)
11:41.19phreakyAny1 know why my settings for my chatwindows keep resetting.. each time i login i have to enable raidchat and bg chat to see it
11:41.40Xelarget prat addon
11:41.50phreakyI got Prat
11:41.52phreaky=)
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11:41.54Xelarah
11:42.00Xelari have same problem :P
11:42.00phreakyI think that might be the problem :)
11:42.04CIA-1703shiftos * r20543 10AuldLangSyne/locals/esES.lua: AuldLangSyne: added spanish (esES) translation (shiftos)
11:42.13Xelarbut somehow when they are not marked i can still se it :D
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11:42.37Soulless_Xelar / phreaky i used to have a similer problem a few days ago til i updated
11:42.50KinkxIs there any addon that changes the borders on your buffs? To say blue or green? Using Buffalo, and thought it would add some borders, but I was wrong :)
11:42.57Kaeltennight guys
11:42.57Soulless_even between sessions it wasn't saving, but it works now so i dunno
11:42.59naeneehttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3646 <-- I wish there was something like that using Ace
11:43.06Kinkxnn Kaelten
11:43.16naeneesweet dreams Kaelten
11:43.18phreakyI had the same problem with prat settings of the editbox, but that owrks now at least
11:43.26CIA-1703kaelten 07Ace2 * r20545 10KC_Items/KC_Items/ (AuctionSpy/AuctionSpy.lua KC_Items.lua):
11:43.26CIA-17KC_Items (Ace 2) -
11:43.26CIA-17- Pre bedtime periodic commit
11:44.00Soulless_naenee: that looks neat
11:44.15naeneeYup, I do not like playing without it.
11:44.22Xelarnaenee i think prat can do it
11:44.30naeneeI've not seen that feature yet though
11:44.49Xelari mean the ace addons rocks
11:44.54SP|Sorrenit does not seem very hard to write
11:44.56Xelarand the wowace updater is like uber nice ;D
11:45.07SoullessXelar: linky?
11:45.10naeneeSP|Sorren: Hence I hope someone will make something like it sometime :)
11:45.26SP|Sorreni'd make it, but then i'd have to maintain it ;P
11:45.30naenee:)
11:45.37Xelarhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
11:45.54SP|Sorrenonebag is very nice.
11:46.15naeneeI wish the slots didn't have a white border though
11:46.21SP|Sorrenyah
11:46.22Soullessanybody know of a bar mod a la discord :(
11:46.28Soullesswtb more power than bongos
11:46.30naeneeDiscord has been updated
11:46.33yacoobkc_items for ace2? wohoooo!
11:46.36SP|Sorrenim trying to figure out how to mod that away atm >.>
11:46.41naeneeOr, if you want an Ace addon, get Bartender3
11:46.49Soullessnaenee: like by loz or you mean just converted to 2.0
11:46.50XelarSoulless u should trye out that updater
11:47.06Xelarit feels like heaven ;D
11:47.10Soullessyeah im giving it a shot now
11:47.13Soullessi liked the svn
11:47.27naeneeSoulless: Hm. I fear the latter.
11:47.30Soullessbut im a slut for clean folders, and all the extra files it creates no es bueno
11:47.43Soullessnaenee:  yeah i avoid those like teh plague lol
11:47.47naenee:)
11:48.09naeneeI think a lot of Discord things can be done with other addons anyway :)
11:48.24Soullessbongos is fine really, i just don't feel like editing a few smalls things i'd like
11:48.55yacoobSoulless, bongos *will* be fine once it gets back friendly/enemy switching
11:49.12Soullessactually come to think, i guess my only complaint is the borders which i can prob edit out pretty easily
11:49.32Soullessi never liked reactionairy bindings
11:49.57naeneeI really like the dream layout :)
11:50.01naeneeI even use it for my buffs :)
11:50.31Soullessanybody here know if wow can be run on a unix comp with close to min specs?
11:50.32naeneeI just wish that other autobar-like mod (I lost the name for a moment), could use dreamlayout too.
11:50.36naeneeHm
11:50.41naeneeI would not recommend it
11:50.47UrulokeOneBag doesn't have item categories... thus vBagnon > OneBag :P
11:50.49naeneeLinux still does not run WoW as well as Windows does.
11:50.55Soullessright
11:50.55naeneeYou lose 10 or more fps.
11:51.02Soullessid care about fps
11:51.07Xelarhehe
11:51.09Soullessit'd only be for two boxing
11:51.30Soullesswhich i can always look at my mian comps screen, its just my main comp is a laptop and, laptops + two boxing = gfg
11:51.33naeneeWell, it's still a hassle each time a patch comes out, as that often breaks something.
11:51.37Mahiro5138anyone has extreem lags when changing weapons infight or a everybody leaves the raidgroup your in?
11:51.39Soullessaye
11:51.54naeneeIf WoW ran well on linux, I'd still be using it ;
11:51.56andremarI've been playing under linux for about as long as wow has been out
11:51.57naenee:(
11:52.03Soullesslol
11:52.06Xelarlinux is nice
11:52.10andremarhardly ever had any problems with patches
11:52.19Xelarrember some while back , gentoo linux was the thing then
11:52.23andremarthere has been a few issues, usually cedega gets fixed within a day or two
11:52.24Soullessi've got 4 comps within an arms reach and a swivvle chair >_>
11:52.27Xelarduno what its the thing now a days doh
11:52.27CIA-1703shiftos * r20546 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_ClockFu - added spanish (esES) translation (shiftos)
11:52.47UrulokeGentoo linux > all *nod*
11:52.49naeneeandremar: Which kernel (+patches), fps in orgrimmar/ironforge, addons used, system specs?
11:52.50Soullesstwo are linux one xp laptop and this comp is another xp matchine
11:52.53CIA-1703shiftos * r20547 10FuBar_ClockFu/FuBar_ClockFu.toc: FuBar_ClockFu - added spanish file to the .toc (shiftos)
11:52.57anenigmaUruloke: agreed
11:53.02naeneeand which wine or cedega version are you using?
11:53.06Xelarso its still good :)
11:53.22UrulokeUse Gentoo on both my server and my laptop
11:53.23Xelarnice to hear  :)
11:53.24naeneeand which resolution / which graphics settings did you tone down/disable
11:53.33Xelari used 2 school days on remote install
11:53.36Xelarhehe was kinda nice
11:53.42andremarnaenee: stock ubuntu-kernel, fps around 20, addons too many to name (bt3, fubar + aobut 30 plugins, prat, archud ag_uf), xp3400+, 1gb ram, nvidia 7800gt or something
11:53.45Xelar2 fun days at school :P
11:53.55andremarnaenee: latest cedega, 4.4.8 or something I think
11:53.56renchapshiftos: can you try to commit all the addon in the same time ?
11:54.00andremarno, 5.something
11:54.02andremarcant remember
11:54.03anenigmanaenee: wine 0.9.25 atm, 1280x1024, fairly high settings?  6600gt.  runs well enough, drops to 10fps in naxx tho
11:54.13naeneehm
11:54.17Soullessugh, 10 fps lol
11:54.22andremarnaenee: I play at 1920x1200, most settings yanked far up
11:54.32shiftosrenchap: yep, I'll try to add all the files in one commit from now on
11:54.33Soullessreminds me of playing daoc on {shudders} 28.8
11:54.40renchap:)
11:54.41Soullessi'd pretty much look at the ground and hit tab and nuke
11:54.54naeneeandremar - and your framerates and which kernel/patch-set/patches, gfx-card/cpu/ram?
11:55.04andremarnaenee: stock ubuntu-kernel, fps around 20, addons too many to name (bt3, fubar + aobut 30 plugins, prat, archud ag_uf), xp3400+, 1gb ram, nvidia 7800gt or something
11:55.09anenigmayeah i'd like to have more fps.  but i'm on lcd, so i'm not going below 1280x1024
11:55.09andremaras I already said :p
11:55.13naeneehm
11:55.27andremarbut I havent tried to up my fps at all
11:55.32andremarit's nice enough
11:55.37andremarit stays constant at that fps
11:55.42andremarno matter where I am or what I do
11:55.58Soullessanybody else have lag at login/char screens since 2.0.1?
11:56.01naenee7800gt here too (agp), 2gb ram, xp3800+, I tried gentoo and debian and cedega and wine and for some reason I did not get good performance :| I tried many guides, asked others how they did it, didn't give up until after some months :(
11:56.13Zodiacwhat's the difference between aUF_BarFade and aUF_RangeCheck?
11:56.21andremarnaenee: hms
11:56.46andremarSoulless: I get some "jerking" motions once in a while
11:56.55ZodiacSoulless: ye I get that too sometimes during peak hours
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11:57.05Mahiro5138Soulless you have lags when you logged in or in the char screen?oO
11:57.12Soullesschar screens
11:57.19Soullessand yes jerking motions soemtimes
11:57.20naeneeWoW loaded a lot quicker on linux though, I did like that ;)
11:57.22Mahiro5138hmm strange
11:57.30Soullessyeah, fight thought was keylogger
11:57.35Soullessbut nothings coming up
11:57.43Soullessand i didn't change anything
11:57.46Mahiro5138do you have lags when changing weapons infight?
11:57.49Soullessstock ui, nothing funky
11:57.54Soullesshmm no
11:58.10Soullessi do get the same jerky shit when i goto huts in wsg thou
11:58.24Soullesslike zerker huts and resto huts i get really weird lag
11:58.37Mahiro5138ok so im the only one with that infight weapon chanig lag thing^^
11:58.40Soullessso bad i have trouble steering myself out of the huts sometimes
11:58.48SP|Sorrenwoohoo
11:58.52SP|Sorrenwhite borders on onebag, begone!
11:58.55Soullesslike its the strangest shit ever
11:59.00Soullessmy fps is sitll 20-40
11:59.05Soullessping still <100
11:59.12naeneeSP|Sorren: ? You edited or is there a new verison
11:59.12Soullessbut the client just lags i dunno
11:59.13naenee*version
11:59.15Soullessits hard to explain
11:59.17SP|Sorrenedited
11:59.25naeneeO
11:59.30naeneeoki
11:59.33naeneebbs, meeting.
11:59.33CIA-1703shiftos * r20548 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/ (DurabilityFuLocale-esES.lua FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc): FuBar_DurabilityFu - added a spanish (esES) translation and updated the .toc (shiftos)
11:59.45SP|Sorrenciao
11:59.52Mahiro5138well when i change weapons infight the game freezes for about 5-10s.. thats not very funny^^
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12:00.05SP|Sorrenit'd be nice if you could specify custom colors item qualities
12:00.46Soullessis there such thing as a esUS client?
12:00.57SP|Sorreni dont think so.
12:01.39Mahiro5138whats es?oO
12:01.57Soullessespanol
12:02.06Mahiro5138ahh ok
12:02.30SP|Sorrenis there a fubar tracking plugin?
12:02.43Soullesstrackfu i think
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12:03.38SP|Sorrendon't see it on WAU :(
12:03.45[Ammo]afternoon
12:04.13phyberMahiro5138: I get that, but my pause isn't as long.  It's REALLY annoying when you're using ClosetGnome_OhNoes :/
12:04.53phreakyI get it to with Wardrobe2
12:05.02phreakyBut only for a few sec
12:05.03phreakybut still
12:05.05Mahiro5138phyber: do you also get such a lag when alterac is finished and everybody leaves the group?
12:05.11UrulokeAny other modules for Cartographer in the works?
12:05.27UrulokeI just tried it out last night and wow, it's great
12:05.40phyberMahiro5138: only time I get a pause now is when I change weapons in battle, and if someone in a raid group goes offline/online in combat.
12:07.00Mahiro5138phyber: can you test if you get the same lage when using a macro like:
12:07.11[Liquidor]nn folks
12:07.12Mahiro5138uups
12:07.41Mahiro5138_/equipslot 16 "weapon1" _
12:08.01phyberno idea.  but i can't test, since i'm at work ;)
12:08.47Mahiro5138ok, well let me know if you tested it^^
12:08.56[Ammo]did you try without addons?
12:08.59[Ammo]see if it lags then too?
12:09.16[Ammo]could be an evil addon causing the lag
12:09.40Mahiro5138*disabling all addons*
12:10.15UrulokeHey [Ammo], any plans on updating Necronomicon?
12:10.15phyber[Ammo]: not yet.  I'm going to later.  I suspect some addon is scanning a bunch of stuff when the equipment is changed.
12:10.35[Ammo]Uruloke: I had my hopes set on Henge
12:10.41[Ammo]it's coming along nice but slow
12:11.09UrulokeOoh, what's that?
12:11.09[Ammo]it's necronomicon styled circular thing for all classes
12:11.10UrulokeOoh, sounds nice
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12:11.12[Ammo]since chronometer does the DoT timings good
12:11.25[Ammo]I might do a small version of necronomicon
12:11.28Stinkfotpure orgasm :P http://www.spiketv.com/events/vga2006/simulcast.html
12:11.30[Ammo]I've been working on a small shard counter
12:11.34[Ammo]and healthstone trader/user
12:11.41Mahiro5138hmm without addons the lag is about 0.1s... so lets find out which addon causes the lag
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12:11.49[Ammo]Mahiro5138 :)
12:12.09Mahiro5138could take some time^^
12:12.14Uruloke[Ammo]: I'll have to check it out :)
12:13.07[Ammo]but I doubt I'll do anything on it soon
12:13.12[Ammo]I'll just fix bugs in oRA2
12:13.15[Ammo]and manage bigwigs a bit
12:13.27[Ammo]I became a father 24 hours ago, so my time is limited :)
12:13.27Silviu-shiftos
12:13.37shiftosyup
12:13.37dafiregrats ;)
12:13.38UrulokeOh really? Congratulations!
12:13.54Silviu-One sec i upload a screen for u
12:13.59shiftoskk
12:14.02Mahiro5138gratz:D
12:14.17Mahiro5138boy or girl?
12:14.30yacoob[Ammo], what updates you expect in your new baby addon? :D
12:14.36yacoobCongratulations :)
12:14.39UrulokeHehe
12:14.43Silviu-shiftos http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot121406141341li1.jpg :)
12:14.44phyber[Ammo]: better start prepping the kid for writing oRA XVIICXVIXIV for us.
12:15.23Soullessgratz ammo
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12:15.40shiftosSilviu-: oops :) I'll fix it inmediatly
12:16.19UrulokeHey shiftos, wanna do translations for ArcHUD while you're on it? :)
12:17.04shiftosUruloke: lol, sure, just let me finish this huge list of TODO stuff first :)
12:17.16Urulokeshiftos: Hehe, no rush :)
12:17.25[Ammo]it's a Boy
12:18.31CIA-1703shiftos * r20549 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - fixed an opened string in the esES translation (shiftos)
12:18.36shiftosSilviu-: should be fixed now
12:18.48Mahiro5138o_O the lag comes when i activate buggrabber and bugsack:/
12:19.01renchapiam searching for an addon that counts the number of jumps i made
12:19.10Mahiro5138lol
12:19.22Mahiro5138are u a n811?
12:19.31Urulokerenchap: Trying to cut down on the jumping, eh? ;)
12:20.31KirkburnAmmo, congrats!
12:20.33MoonWolfcan you posthook  the jump movement ?
12:20.49Silviu-thank u shiftos
12:20.56shiftosyw :)
12:21.00renchapi dunno MoonWolf
12:21.33[Ammo]MoonWolf you can do SecureHook("jump")
12:21.37[Ammo]that should work well enough
12:21.42[Ammo]or Jump whatever it's called
12:22.04MoonWolfthen i could make a small fubar plugin to do it.
12:22.06MoonWolfeasy.
12:22.14renchapinteresting !
12:23.25MoonWolfMahiro5138, nighteleven ?
12:23.44ven"neighteleven"
12:24.26renchapMoonWolf: is it easy to do ?
12:24.29Mahiro5138MoonWolf: oh in german 11 is spoken like elf:D
12:24.44MoonWolfprett easy.
12:24.50MoonWolfi'll do it when i get home.
12:24.51renchapi think i can try to do this, but i need to learn the api before :)
12:24.55renchapthx !
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12:30.15phyberMahiro5138: have you tried enabling everything else that isn't BugSack/Grabber?
12:30.27phyberto see if it really is them (just to make sure multiple don't cause it)
12:30.59Mahiro5138phyber: im on it^^ takes some time
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12:32.19Soullessf blizzard, they broke tradedispencer, and i'm qqing
12:32.58UrulokeIs Timex used at all nowadays?
12:33.06vhaarrUruloke: no
12:33.12JoshBorkewhat's the other version of EavesDrop?
12:33.23vhaarrSoulless: "cry" is 1 more letter than "qq". Just FYI.
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12:34.40Soullessvhaarr: lol, fine, i'm crying hardcore b/c playing a mage is relegated to being waterboy which sucks since i can't have a mod accept trades for me anymore
12:35.09Soullessanybody getting a conflict with thelowdown and prat, both updated?
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12:36.29noha^i cannot scoll in the chat windows if prat and theLowDown are installed the same time
12:36.39Soullessyeah, thats whats happening
12:36.49Soullessguess im scrapping thelowdown til something gets fixed
12:37.01noha^did that too
12:37.18noha^i want TheLowDown included in prat xD
12:37.29Soullessit meshes into it, but yeah lol
12:37.43phyberSoulless: tell people to go to the Caverns of Time for their water.
12:37.53CIA-1703rabbit * r20551 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (ClosetGnome_Mount.toc libs/): ClosetGnome_Mount: Add Gratuity now that CG doesn't package it.
12:38.19Soullesslol
12:38.25haarmi think I prefered it when prat was still id2, and it was modular, I don't like the fact there's so much stuff I just have turned off and it's still taking up memory
12:38.26Soullesstheres no water in CoT
12:38.50haarmidChat2
12:38.50vhaarrhaarm: idChatLegacy
12:38.55Soullessprat is modular
12:39.08SoullessPrat/modules
12:39.11haarmi mean speperate load on demand addons
12:39.17Mahiro5138there is 5k water at cot
12:39.19Soullessif you don't want to run something, just edit ti from the toc
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12:39.21Soullessyeah
12:39.28Zodiacexactlæ
12:39.31Zodiacehhh
12:39.43Zodiacexactly what does ora2lod.bat do in th oRA2 addon?
12:39.46haarmediting the toc every time you update, is a pain in the arse
12:39.54Zodiacdo I gain anything by running it?
12:39.56vhaarr.svnignore the toc
12:40.00Zodiacmore functions?
12:40.17haarmactually i'm using wua so i don't stress the svn server ;)
12:40.17dafiremaybe prat should split up into a core package with most common features and one or two extension addons ;)
12:40.24haarmso we need some .wuaignore
12:40.36haarmbut vhaarr, that would also inhibit any new modules being loaded
12:40.42haarmor being seen at all
12:40.52Soullessunless its written really funky i think you could do that now
12:40.54noha^haarm: the read only frag within your file system :)
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12:41.00Soullessor even make every module a seperate addon
12:41.39Mahiro5138everything enabled exept buggrabber and bug sack and the lag is gone....
12:41.58anenigmawhat was that hook, that stops DE'ing/picking locks etc, from bags?
12:42.18haarmmm, maybe bugsack was causing my obscene grow rates with so many buggy addons :p
12:42.22haarmnever thought of that
12:42.27anenigmasomething is still stopping me, but vbagnon is uptodate, and it seems like others don't have the issue
12:43.01vhaarrMahiro5138: Do you have many old addons?
12:43.33vhaarrBugSack doesn't just cause lag for the heck of it.
12:44.31Mahiro5138vhaarr: what do you mean with "old"addons?
12:45.00CIA-1703shiftos * r20552 10AuldLangSyne/ (AuldLangSyne.toc locals/esES.lua): AuldLangSyne: fixed a couple bad strings in the spanish translation (shiftos)
12:45.31Maranathaque?
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12:46.03JoshBorkeUGH!  stupid thing getting something tainted
12:46.53Mahiro5138vhaarr: all ace addons are updated and the other addons are the latest versions
12:47.15vhaarrMahiro5138: okay
12:47.59Mahiro5138is there a way to find out why it produces such a lag?
12:49.16evlSmart man who translated Autobar
12:49.28evlYou just made every static string spanish no matter the locale you're using
12:50.01evlseriously, when you "fix" others addons (haste can probably talk at length about that) make sure you test.
12:50.10shiftosyes, just saw that
12:50.12MoonWolfrant on!
12:50.19shiftosanyway, it worked ok in my local tests
12:50.29evlYou might be running spanish? :)
12:50.39MoonWolfevl, he tested it, found it was completly spanish and was pleased ?
12:50.40shiftosidd :)
12:50.53evlMoonWolf :D
12:51.11shiftoskk, my bad, I'm new to this
12:51.41Mahiro5138vhaarr: is there a way to find out why bugsack causes such a lag when changing weapons?
12:52.03JoshBorkeis it saying fatality?
12:52.10vhaarrMahiro5138: It shouldn't cause any lag at all unless there's an error.
12:52.28evlshiftos: line 95: if (GetLocale() == "esES") then
12:52.29evli think
12:52.31vhaarrMahiro5138: Turn off the filter in its options and try again.
12:52.37vhaarrMahiro5138: "Filter addon mistakes"
12:52.38vhaarrturn that off
12:52.55shiftosevl: kk, let me fix this
12:53.04Mahiro5138vhaarr: will try that
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12:53.51Niemand_qry_onlyhi @ all
12:54.08anenigmahi Niemand
12:54.15Mahiro5138o_O there they go errors all over the place :/
12:54.33Niemandhey ... the same prob i have ^^
12:55.05Soullesshow do you move skinner gradient frames?
12:55.12Soullesslike how do i center the bottom frame
12:55.20Soullessif its not as wide as my screen
12:55.29Mahiro5138vhaarr: 100 errors from trinitybuttons, no wonder there is such a lag^^
12:55.32haarmMahiro5138, so fix the errors :)
12:55.36Niemandanyone who works @ Detox here ?
12:55.39vhaarrMahiro5138: hehe, there you have it :)
12:55.42CIA-1703shiftos * r20553 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
12:55.42CIA-17AutoBar:
12:55.42CIA-17- fixed the spanish file that created havok
12:55.42vhaarrNiemand: me
12:56.01haarmshiftos is on a mission :)
12:56.18Mahiro5138vhaarr: is that filter option enabled by default?
12:56.24vhaarrMahiro5138: yes
12:56.31vhaarrMahiro5138: It would spam a lot if not, as you can see.
12:56.43shiftosevl: problem was I copied it from the US file, I overlooked that part, sorry
12:57.03Mahiro5138vhaarr: better if it spams it as if you dont know why you get such lags and things
12:57.14vhaarrMahiro5138: Although the errors that would be spam are there, some addons work despite the spam.
12:57.41vhaarrhm
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12:57.51vhaarrI guess it could be off by default
12:59.06ne0-hi guys! is there a way to read the complete changelog of a acemod atm?
12:59.50CIA-1703rabbit * r20554 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: BugSack: Turn the addon mistake filter off by default.
12:59.58vhaarrMahiro5138: there :P
13:00.19CIA-1703rabbit * r20555 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: type is nil-safe.
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13:01.12Soullessis there a way to hide chatbox borders?
13:01.51Niemandtransparency setting ?!
13:02.29Soullessthat just hides the background
13:02.52Niemandi dont see the Chatbox ... only the Letters
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13:03.10Niemandno chatbox = no Borders
13:03.15Mikmais svn a little slow today? :)
13:03.46Mahiro5138vhaarr: nice one:D
13:05.38SoullessNiemand: but when i go over tabs the border still flashes up
13:05.47Soullessi have about 7 tabs lol
13:06.53Niemandmmh right @ Soul ... sek i remember some you are searching ...mom
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13:07.56CIA-1703rabbit * r20556 10AuldLangSyne/ (7 files in 3 dirs): AuldLangSyne: It's "locales", not "locals".
13:08.44Josh_Borkemorning
13:09.42Tekkubhttp://www.pvrwire.com/2006/12/14/over-a-third-of-broadband-users-in-australia-download-pirated-tv/
13:10.15Josh_Borkehaste: ping
13:10.50hasteJosh_Borke: pong
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13:11.49CIA-1703rabbit * r20557 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar.toc FuBar_Panel.lua): FuBar: Remove Compost OptDep.
13:12.14CIA-1703Tristan * r20558 10FuBar_TinyPadFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_TinyPadFu.toc):
13:12.14CIA-17FuBar_TinyPadFu:
13:12.15CIA-17- Initial Commit
13:12.25Josh_Borkehaste: http://wowace.pastey.net/3552 is what you need for oCB to work with channeling, i'm pretty sure
13:12.39Mikma~borked
13:12.41purlborked is, like, "has been touched by josh_borke"
13:13.21hasteJosh_Borke: I'll have a look soon
13:13.22Iceroth[Ammo], ping
13:13.28Josh_Borkelol Tekkub
13:14.40Niemandvhaarr?
13:14.48vhaarrNiemand: yes?
13:14.59Niemanddo u read querrys ?
13:15.12vhaarrNiemand: Not from people that are not registered.
13:15.16vhaarrSince they don't show up.
13:15.25Deviadhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kOu1FM43.html
13:15.27Deviadcheck this pls
13:15.28Niemandgreat -.-
13:15.47vhaarrNiemand: I'm leaving for work in 1 minute, so it's too late now for me, hopefully someone else can help you.
13:15.55vhaarrNiemand: If not, I'll be back in 7-8h.
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13:16.04Niemandkk ... Have fun ^^
13:16.07CIA-1703Tristan * r20559 10FuBar_TinyPadFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_TinyPadFu.toc):
13:16.07CIA-17FuBar_TinyPadFu:
13:16.08CIA-17- Externals set
13:17.20Niemandanyone who has great knowledge of "Detox" ?
13:18.00CIA-1703Tristan * r20560 10T_Tracking/Core.lua:
13:18.01CIA-17T_Tracking:
13:18.01CIA-17- No More Changing Track through AddOns so added a chatreminder instead of casting :/
13:18.29nevcairieldetox is deprecated
13:18.57Niemandi know ... im working on it
13:19.07Niemandbut i have some probs
13:19.19nevcairielso what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
13:19.48Niemandi translate alle into german ... now i got an Babble class erro
13:19.51Niemand+r
13:20.16nevcairielwhats the point in even translating it ? its not useful anymore :D
13:21.14Niemandi thougt that this is the prob
13:22.42Aileen_what?  no more changing track through addons? :\
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13:32.45CIA-1703shiftos * r20561 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
13:32.45CIA-17AutoBar:
13:32.45CIA-17- updated spanish translation
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13:34.54CIA-1703shiftos * r20562 10FuBar_FriendsFu/ (FuBar_FriendsFu.toc FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.esES.lua):
13:34.54CIA-17FuBar_FriendsFu
13:34.54CIA-17- added a spanish translation (esES) and .toc updated
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13:37.10dafiredoes anyone know fisheye ? might it be useful for wowace svn ? ;) http://www.cenqua.com/fisheye/
13:38.24rw3Anyone have any tips how to generate text on actionbar buttons? (DPS/avg. dmg)
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13:39.37DiakonHey
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13:41.59neeneeGood afternoon again ;)
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13:46.20CIA-1703toadkiller * r20563 10AutoBar/ (8 files):
13:46.20CIA-17AutoBar:
13:46.20CIA-17- Fixed illegal use of Show();
13:46.21CIA-17- Right Click self targets
13:46.21CIA-17- Removed obsolete option to disable popups
13:46.21CIA-17- Popup on shift is broken for now
13:46.51hasteJosh_Borke: two of those changes are dupe code :)
13:47.07hasteJosh_Borke: self.casting = oCB.casting in those cases
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13:51.29CIA-1703toadkiller * r20564 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
13:51.29CIA-17AutoBar:
13:51.29CIA-17-Espanol or something! Tx shiftos
13:51.29CIA-17-Deleted obsolete item
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13:53.04shiftosToadkiller: kk
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13:54.32Dhragaany ora2 developer around ?
13:54.57Soullesswhat event when you lose a buff?
13:55.13nevcairielUNIT_AURA ?
13:55.52Soullessthat for anything? including players, mobs npcs pets etc?
13:56.02CIA-1703toadkiller * r20565 10AutoBarConfig/ (AutoBarConfig.lua AutoBarConfig.xml):
13:56.02CIA-17AutoBarConfig:
13:56.02CIA-17-Remove Popup disabling checkbox
13:58.09nevcairielSoulless: yes, arg1 will be the unit and you have to scan the buffs/debuffs to get the changed debuff
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13:58.39Mahiro5138is there a simple enemy castbar addon to replace the blizzard castbar?
13:58.39Soullessnevcairiel: ty
13:58.44evlToadkiller: a lot of wierd stuff is happening with my buttons if i run the latest ver, they get a border even when they are plain and the spacing is fubear
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14:06.57MikmaGIEF Warlock leveling-build
14:07.16nevcairielaffliction with dark pact
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14:11.23Mikmanevcairiel: wtf is dark pact
14:11.29nevcairiel31 talent
14:11.36nevcairielin affliction
14:11.40nevcairielat least it used to be
14:11.41nevcairiel:D
14:11.50Soullessit still is
14:11.51Mikmaoh right
14:11.59Soullesssaps mana from your pet
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14:13.15HjalteIs there a simple addon to move the BG counters? Like in wsg, the flag score count.
14:13.31Soullessvisor can
14:14.39CIA-1703shiftos * r20566 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (FuBar_LocationFu.toc LocationFuLocale-esES.lua): FuBar_LocationFu - added spanish (esES) translation and .toc updated
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14:14.52yacoobheh, warlock truly looks nice in this trailer
14:15.06kenlyricdie bad murlocs die
14:15.13HjalteSoulless: Can i uninstall visor afterwards?
14:15.21MoonWolfi still think that is a mage
14:15.29kenlyricI thought it was too.
14:15.33MoonWolflooks like a blastwave to me.
14:15.54Soullessnot that i know of, since addons taht move things like have have to be run at the start to move them back to where you set
14:15.56yacoobnah, warlock
14:15.59kenlyricdoes seem strange they would have two.
14:16.01Eternally777Wouldn't that leave Warlocks unrepresented?
14:16.14Eternally777I thought it looked like Warlock gear, too though :\
14:19.41CIA-1703toadkiller * r20567 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua:
14:19.41CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0:
14:19.41CIA-17-Merge in PTLib changes
14:20.17kenlyricgnomes are unrepresented, and druids too.
14:20.35kenlyricand the priest noob needs better gear.
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14:20.53phyber> gnomes
14:21.03phyberblizzard don't want people to see that horror on TV
14:21.16andremarhttp://msdewey.com/
14:21.18kenlyricgnomes > *
14:21.31kenlyricwell, unless you want to see the gear they are wearing.
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14:24.50Eternally777Anyone ever have an experience where 'GetItemInfo()' returns nil for some extremely common item?
14:24.54Eternally777like a mana stone?
14:26.38Josh_Borkeany ace svn mirrors here?
14:27.45Josh_Borkehaste: where do you set self.casting?
14:27.56HjalteEternally777: Hey. Any plans on introducing cooldown timers on eg fear ward for SacredBuff?
14:28.06thaliesacredbuff rules as is :)
14:28.07CIA-1703otravi * r20568 10oCB/core/ (casting.lua frame.lua mirror.lua ocb.lua): oCB - The channeling bar is no longer hidden when attacked while channeling.
14:28.41Eternally777No cooldown timers :\
14:28.53andremarI couldnt even move sacred buff
14:28.57andremarlet alone use it for anything
14:29.08Josh_Borkeah, i see it now
14:29.14haste:D
14:29.21Eternally777I have some stuff I want to change.. I want to make it so if you have 2 major talents in the same tree (Shadowform + Vampiric Touch) you can use your scroll wheel while hovering over the button to switch between the two
14:29.23Eternally777same with mounts
14:29.40Eternally777andremar, you couldn't move it?
14:30.00thaliei have had nothing but good experiences with sb, eternally
14:30.06kenlyricdraenei paladin, blood elf priest, Orc Rogue, troll hunter, human mage, tauren shaman,  undead lock. No gnomes, elves, druids. So between the two trailers, only gnomes have never appeared. Blizzard hates gnomes, which is why they are the only race without a healing class. :)
14:30.08thalieit does exactly what it's supposed to do
14:30.43Eternally777Glad to hear it, thalie.  I was kinda surprised to see negative comments about it on curse-gaming.  But those were from people who are used to Serenity
14:30.59andremarEternally777: nope
14:31.17andremartried alt.-shift, ctrl- left/right
14:31.23andremarlock'ed it had a black background
14:31.27andremarunlocked that went away
14:31.30andremarneither state let me move it
14:31.35Eternally777andremar, when did you try this?
14:31.37andremarbut could be a bugged revision I guess
14:31.46CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20569 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: tuned some of the event handles, should possibly run smoother now
14:31.48andremarbefore the weekend I think
14:32.07nevcairieldoes anyone know if _alot_ of setalpha calls can actually affect performance?
14:32.30Mikmanevcairiel: do a test
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14:32.45nevcairielmy pc is too fast or something, i couldnt reproduce the lag
14:32.56Mikmawhat lag
14:33.20CIA-1703thalie * r20570 10KC_Items/ (KC_Items.toc broker/broker.lua core/common/math.lua): KC_Items: Some minor fixes to math.lua and broker.lua per user requests.
14:33.21thalieomg, my first commit.
14:33.22thaliehahaha
14:33.35neenee:) Congratulations
14:33.37Josh_Borkenevcairiel: what mikma said, do a test
14:33.38thalielol
14:33.55thaliehahaha mikma
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14:34.35neeneeIs there a way to decrease the size of chat windows to less than the minimum size set by Blizzard?
14:35.15haste-## Notes: Mod pack that covers (or will cover) just about all possible item functionality. This mod has been commandeered by thalie! Avast, ye scriptlubbers!  << sup with that diff :D ?
14:35.22thalieremoved it
14:35.27thaliexuerian put it in on my last fix
14:35.31thaliethe hacker
14:35.32hasteoh
14:35.36Mikmahehehee
14:35.45Mikma~emulate haste
14:35.50purlmethinks emulate haste is (<reply> :---------( | <reply> odt: damn douchebag!)
14:35.50CIA-1703shiftos * r20571 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc PerformanceFuLocale-esES.lua): FuBar_PerformanceFu - added spanish translation (esES) and .toc updated
14:35.53phyberscriptlubbers :o
14:35.54kenlyricso, in general I want to turn on Smart auction pricing?
14:35.58hasteaaw, borked
14:36.03thalie~borked
14:36.05purlrumour has it, borked is "has been touched by josh_borke"
14:36.09Mikma~literal emulate haste
14:36.11purl"emulate haste" is "(<reply> :---------( | <reply> $randnick: damn douchebag!)"
14:36.11Josh_Borkei hate you haste :-P
14:36.23Mikmapurl: no, emulate haste is (<reply> :---------( | <reply> $randnick: damn douchebag!)
14:36.25purlMikma: i already had it that way
14:36.30hastefail Mikma
14:36.33Mikmainteresting
14:36.56hastepurl: no, emulate haste is <reply>:---------( || <reply>$randnick: damn douchebag!
14:36.57purlokay, haste
14:37.02haste~emulate haste
14:37.03purl:---------(
14:37.16thalie~emulate fry
14:37.18purlPeople said I was dumb, but I proved them.
14:37.18odtwow, i got highlighted by a script
14:37.49nevcairielanyone in here noticed having lag or freezes when switching items with Bartender3?
14:37.53Mikmapurl: no, emulate haste is <reply>:---------( || <reply>$randnick: damn douchebag! || <reply> who really needs to emulate haste while we got him here already emulated
14:37.54purlokay, Mikma
14:38.22Mikmanevcairiel: Minibar?
14:38.24thalieemulating haste emulating haste
14:38.29thaliehm
14:38.39nevcairielMikma: no time
14:38.46hastepurl: no, emulate haste is <reply>:---------( || <reply>$randnick: damn douchebag! || <reply> who really needs to emulate haste while we got him here already emulated || <reply>You're doing it wrong!
14:38.49purlhaste: okay
14:38.58Mikmanevcairiel: awwwww
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14:39.49thalieno, emulate haste is <reply>:---------( || <reply>$randnick: damn douchebag! || <reply> who really needs to emulate haste while we got him here already emulated || <reply>You're doing it wrong! || <reply>If you commit to one of my addons again I will hunt you down and kill you
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14:40.23thalie;)
14:40.26Talyn600mnevcairiel: no, but it *might* be lagging with the countdowns recently.  can't quite confirm though but i keep my pet skills / food on bar2 and shift-# to change and it's not lagging
14:41.00Mikmapurl: no, emulate haste is <reply>:---------( || <reply>$randnick: damn douchebag! || <reply> who really needs to emulate haste while we got him here already emulated || <reply>You're doing it wrong! ||<reply> abomination!
14:41.02purlokay, Mikma
14:41.08boone_hey guys, got a question about topstatsfu one of you might know something about.. why does my topstats still count healingspells, when the option for it isn't checked?
14:41.09hastehaha
14:41.25Mikmapurl: no, emulate haste is <reply>:---------( || <reply>$randnick: damn douchebag! || <reply> who really needs to emulate haste while we got him here already emulated || <reply>You're doing it wrong! ||<reply> abomination! ||<reply> No, oUF is not done!
14:41.26purlMikma: okay
14:41.28neeneeWow. lots of errors with RaidGroup now :|
14:41.34neeneeNot in Ace addons though I think
14:41.41Hjalteandremar: Sacredbuff is *un*locked when you see the black border :) And with the newest revision from svn I'm able to move it.
14:41.42nevcairielhrm
14:41.57nevcairieli think MCP was tainting my raidgroup frames, does anyone know if it was updated or something?
14:42.03andremarHjalte: ok, perhaps I should give it a new go
14:42.08Pkekyog'mornin all
14:42.13neeneeHi Pkekyo
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14:42.41thalie~emulate haste
14:42.43purlYou're doing it wrong!
14:42.54Mikma~evacuate haste
14:42.58thalieahah
14:43.03sbu~emulate Mikma
14:43.04purlTeomyr|off is an assclown.
14:43.09sbu:)
14:43.14thalie~dance
14:43.15purlACTION dirty dances with Ardbeg ... oooooh
14:43.18Pkekyoanyone remember the name of the fubar-plugin that kept track of most damage done with certain attacks etc?
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14:43.24thalietopscore
14:43.25kenlyricmeh... why is this trying to sell silk cloth for 26s a stack?
14:43.25odttopscorefu
14:43.26sbuTopScoreFu?
14:43.40thaliethat is "this", ken
14:43.44thaliewhat, even, is "this"
14:43.55kenlyrickc_items
14:43.58thaliehaha
14:44.01kenlyrictrying to tinker with the different modes.
14:44.05Mikmapurl: evacuate $1 is <action> throws $1 into small rubberboat without paddles
14:44.06purlokay, Mikma
14:44.11thaliegod, don't tinker
14:44.13Mikmadid i fail?
14:44.19thalieyes
14:44.32nevcairielwhat do people use nowadays to turn off addons in game?
14:44.36kenlyricwell, the default mode doesn't suggest a price at all.
14:44.38Mikma~tryme
14:44.39purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click.
14:44.55thalieit shows in the tooltip... at least it did last night
14:45.14Mikma~evacuate thalie
14:45.16purlACTION throws thalie into small rubberboat without paddles
14:45.24Mikmano i didn't fail :)
14:45.31thaliepurl, you fail
14:45.40Mikmapurl: hug me gently
14:45.42purlACTION jumps into me gently's lap and huggles and *hugs* me gently
14:45.42Pkekyotopscorefu? anyone know if it've been updated yet?
14:45.56Mikmaok then
14:45.58Mikmapurl: assclown
14:46.00purlMikma: you.
14:46.07nevcairiellol
14:46.12kenlyricyeah, it shows it in the tooltip. The tooltip is wrong :)
14:46.14Mikmapurl: monkey
14:46.18purlThis problem, like many others in the computer industry, can be solved by the application of monkeys.
14:46.31^^sunthere is a prb with prat
14:46.33thaliepurl fails
14:46.35purlI fail?  I FAIL?  NO, YOU FAIL!!!
14:46.46^^sunevery invite word are in bracket []
14:46.52^^sunand i'm spammed by guild motd
14:46.54Amadeodamn, I need a new monitor so bad
14:48.24Sun\Nethersylvanaar : about prat, guild motd are spammed to me and every "invite" workd are in brackets [], clicking on it gives an error message
14:48.51thalie~evacuate mikma
14:48.52purlACTION throws mikma into small rubberboat without paddles
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14:49.18CIA-1703shiftos * r20572 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (FuBar_VolumeFu.toc VolumeFuLocale-esES.lua): FuBar_VolumeFu - added spanish (esES) translation and .toc updated
14:49.33Sun\Netherhow do u get a previous release
14:49.36Sun\Netherno more possible?
14:49.47Pkekyoanyone know if TopscoreFu has been updated to 2.0.1?
14:49.54thalieyes it has pkekyo, i use it
14:50.10boone_ooh it has? wonderful, just need it to get on wowace then ;D.
14:50.35thalie## Interface: 20000 :)  yep
14:50.41AmadeoWhere can I get a monitor for cheap? Something decent though
14:50.58Mikmapurl: no, evacuate $1 is <action> throws $1 into small rubberboat without paddles || <action> pushes $1 into deep hole and covers it with concrete
14:51.00purlMikma: okay
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14:51.43Uruloke_~evacuate mikma
14:51.44purlACTION throws mikma into small rubberboat without paddles || <action> pushes mikma into deep hole and covers it with concrete
14:51.49Mikmaaww
14:51.51thalief a i l
14:51.57thaliehehe
14:52.23Mikmanow wtf is wrong with that one
14:52.53Mikmai blame [Ammo]
14:52.56thalie~evacuate mikma
14:52.58purlACTION throws mikma into small rubberboat without paddles
14:52.58boone_thalie, do you know where i can get 2.0.1 of topscorefu? it's not on wowace.com
14:53.01Talyn600myeah it is
14:53.01thaliefixed it mik
14:53.42Mikma~karma ckknight
14:53.42purlckknight has karma of 6
14:54.01Mikma~karma ckknight
14:54.01purlckknight has karma of 6
14:54.21Miles|zzz~karma purl
14:54.22purlpurl has karma of 8
14:54.25Miles|zzzcheat
14:54.35andremar~top10
14:54.37andremar~top 10
14:54.54Mikma~inflatable dildos
14:54.55purlOh yea, stretch that hole!
14:54.58thalieomg
14:54.59thaliehahaha
14:55.14thalie~thalie
14:55.16purlACTION is the Spirit of Redemption.
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14:57.22Mikma~noob
14:57.23purlACTION has died.
14:58.16neeneewow.
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14:58.34neeneewow /quit no longer works in WoW for me
14:58.44aE|neXtertry /exit
14:58.59Mikmaneenee: /camp
14:59.00Josh_Borkebah! what's up with !!!Standalone Libraries?
14:59.17neeneeI killed the process
14:59.58Gnarfozhttp://www.spiketv.com/events/vga2006/simulcast.html !
15:00.07thalieyeah just saw that ... kewl
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15:00.18Mikmaneenee: btw, lol you are a a noob
15:00.23Mikma<1658> <neenee> wow.
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15:00.35CIA-1703toadkiller * r20573 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-2.0.lua:
15:00.35CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0
15:00.35CIA-17- function lib:GetMultiSetTable(set)
15:00.35CIA-17- Gets the superset
15:00.35CIA-17- Works with Multi Sets
15:00.36neenee:P Yea, I know
15:00.46neeneeI accidentally typed it at the start of the sentence
15:00.58GnarfozToadkiller: hey, you around? :)
15:01.22Miles|zzzlol best application ever: "Why you wish to join our guild and what you can bring to it:I'm exceptionally perceptive.  Whenever I take damage I hearth and wait for my summon again.  I approach every encounter as if I'm playing Diablo 2 hardcore mode.  I've yet to die although I can't speak for life pre 60.  Someone of my stature doesn't level, I paid for the service. "
15:02.14thalie"Someone of my stature doesn't level"?  jeez
15:02.14neeneeegh.
15:02.20thaliethat's avoiding the best part of the game lol
15:02.30Josh_Borkewtf
15:02.34Josh_BorkeKaeltenAway: ping!
15:03.21Mikmawell you should reply to him : someone at your stature should also pay for their epix
15:03.21thaliehaha
15:03.21thaliebecause they probably bought GOLD too
15:03.22neeneeIt's probably just a joke anyway.
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15:11.16CIA-1703ag * r20574 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
15:11.16CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
15:11.16CIA-17<PROTECTED>
15:11.29Grineag`, around?
15:11.44neeneetest
15:11.45neeneeok
15:12.10neeneehm. I am getting ag_UnitFrames errors :|
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15:13.32neeneehttp://pastebin.ca/278926
15:15.33SoLoRthis is not necessery ag_unitframes bug...
15:15.38Icerothyeah, i'd like to catch that addon too what's doing it
15:15.47Icerothi get the message from AutoTurnin libs
15:15.56SoLoRdo text search thrue addon folder for MultiBarBottomLeft
15:16.04SoLoRmaybe you are lucky :<
15:16.35Josh_Borkeanyone have a problem with MobHealth being blocked when you click a skill from the spellbook?
15:16.52SoLoRagain not mobhealt fault
15:17.08SoLoR*h
15:17.09Josh_Borkei know
15:17.14Josh_Borkebut i'm not exactly sure how to trace it
15:17.23Josh_Borkebecause it is intermittent
15:17.48Josh_Borkei suspect it has to do with tekSupport, but i'm not sure
15:17.48Toadkillergnarfoz yep im here
15:18.15neeneeOh
15:18.36GnarfozToadkiller: the recent autobar versions do a lot of :Show()'ing in combat
15:18.39neeneeHm. What's a good tool to search through all files / subdirs, though the contents?
15:18.49neeneeI can't grep on this windows system :|
15:19.18Gnarfoznoticed because of the ActionBlocked addon which spits those "transgressions" out into the chat frame... it's not like that acutally seems to break anything, I'd just thought I'd let you know
15:20.07CIA-1703otravi * r20575 10oCB/core/casting.lua:
15:20.08CIA-17oCB:
15:20.08CIA-17- Changed how delays are done.
15:20.08CIA-17- Should display the time left and delay on channeled spells (drycode).
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15:20.22ToadkillerGnar:  Yeah through a strange set of circumstances I was not able to update PeriodicTable-2.0 till just now.  It still seems maddeningly one rev behind the times but whatever.  Soon as I next touch AutoBar it should actually work again,
15:21.18haste<PROTECTED>
15:22.00Toadkillertest what haste?
15:22.05hasteoCB
15:22.29Josh_Borkehaste broke it again :-P
15:22.36hasteI did?
15:22.42Josh_Borkei'm just hypothesizing :-P
15:22.51hasteIt worked with bandages!
15:22.55hastenot that I can test delay or anything :D
15:23.08Josh_Borkedid you have some hit you while bandaging?
15:23.13Sun\Netherhow i can i acces previous version ?
15:23.20Sun\Netherof an addon
15:23.45Josh_Borkeuse svn to check out an earlier revision
15:23.50Sun\Netherand why did the history txt of the addons is totally deleted now ?
15:23.57Sun\Netherexcept the laast change
15:24.02hasteSun\Nether: already checkouted or not?
15:24.09Sun\Nethercheckouted?
15:24.17hasteoh, without the SVN :D ?
15:24.20hastethen I don't know :3
15:24.21Josh_BorkeSun\Nether: what version?
15:24.30Sun\Netherprat previous version
15:24.33Sun\Netherthe last one is broken
15:24.38Sun\Netherfor example
15:25.52CIA-1703toadkiller * r20576 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc AutoBarItemList.lua Core.lua):
15:25.52CIA-17AutoBar:
15:25.52CIA-17-If this zips AutoBar should be gtg
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15:34.52thalieit's not hard, just go to the files directory and download the revision you want ...
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15:36.49CIA-1703shiftos * r20577 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFuLocale-esES.lua FuBar_BagFu.toc): FuBar_BagFu - added spanish (esES) translation and .toc updated
15:37.08thalie~emulate xuerian
15:37.10purlI have no idea why it's broken.
15:37.28XuerianIt's true =O
15:38.34CIA-1703shiftos * r20578 10FuBar_AmmoFu/ (AmmoFuLocale-esES.lua FuBar_AmmoFu.toc): FuBar_AmmoFu - added spanish translation and .toc updated
15:39.17Uruloke_Hehe
15:40.16BarDwellris xloot / xloot-group author about ?
15:40.26Xuerianno.
15:40.56BarDwellroh well, thinking of tweaking xloot to add a switch to disable need/greed buttons on BoP loot
15:41.01thaliexloot?  what a hunk of crap
15:41.12XuerianAye! I BE HERE!
15:41.14thalielol
15:41.21BarDwellrits the wizard of oz all over again
15:41.47thalie~evacuate bardwellr
15:41.57Xuerian<.<
15:42.00BarDwellranyways.. dunno bout ur guilds, but ours operates a strict 'pass on BoP' rule..
15:42.01thaliepurl, wake up
15:42.03purlACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
15:42.27Eternally777purl: oh, I see what you did there.
15:42.29purlYou see what you did there.?
15:42.32thalieyeah
15:42.37Eternally777purl: yeah, I see it.
15:42.41thaliepurl, wake purl
15:42.42purlACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on purl and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
15:42.42XuerianBarDwellr: If you know how to do that without scanning tooltips, tell me :P. Otherwise I just need to get my ass in gear and impliment gratuity like I've been saying.... I do need to do something about bop/boe items
15:43.33BarDwellrXuerian: I dont know how.. yet =) I started looking at the code this morning.. figured that xloot group is deferring creation of the nice bar to Xloot, which is using the xloot bar utils stuff to create the bar
15:44.31BarDwellrand that somewhere it knows the quality of the item, to color the bar green/blue etc.. I was going to work from there if possible to see if I couldnt query the bind type.. failing that, yes, scanning the tooltip would be viable
15:44.45XuerianBarDwellr: Since Monitor and Group use the same rows, I moved the functions to create basic rows into XLootRowTools.lua. The rows are actually handled by AnchorsAway (AA).
15:45.52XuerianYou might want to look .. hm
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15:47.35BarDwellrIm just fed up with being an accidental ninja ;-)
15:47.47XuerianAre you wanting to do this yourself, or just want it done? :P
15:47.59BarDwellrBoth are acceptable ;-)
15:48.37BarDwellrof course if its done, Im not going to be complaining, but otherwise Im more than up to sort it myself =)
15:49.09XuerianEhh, I'll do it then. I need to figure out exactly how to use gratuity anyhow, and I've been nagged to put a indicator for bop/boe on the rows themselves.
15:49.17BarDwellrtotal experience in lua to date.. umm.. about 2 files ;-)
15:50.03XuerianWell, if you want to, go right ahead. Send me your version or a patch, and I'll merge the resulting code. Or any other ideas for that matter.
15:50.09BarDwellrhowever, I can do java / c / c++ / z80 / x86 / m68k / perl / php without any probs.. (and oddball non procedural stuff too)
15:50.15kenlyricthe last lua I messed with was in phoenix....
15:50.28Lopenheh
15:50.33ag`http://www.zen56980.zen.co.uk/lemon_party.gif
15:50.41Xuerian.....
15:50.54Xuerian\block ag`
15:51.03BarDwellrrighto.. i'll haxor about.. expect the worlds worst bit of code later =) i'd advise that knowing Im messign with it probably shouldnt cause you to not do it ;-)
15:51.30BarDwellrthe last mod I was asked to write .. was for UT2004.. it was supposed to be a scrolly text motd mod.. and somehow I wrote a laser trip mine instead
15:51.50BarDwellrthe laser trip mine was waaaay cooler, but somehow didnt display scrolly text
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15:52.51XuerianBarDwellr: I'm gonna start on using gratuity to scan tooltips for info, and that'll be included. And haha, well I came from php too, and... laser trip mine? XD awesome.
15:53.17AntiarcI'm starting to think that I might need to add a feature to Sanity that lets you drag an item category out onto the UIParent, which will create a dynamic "bag".
15:54.17BarDwellrI started with speccy basic ;-) .. then went to z80, then m68k, then x86, then c, c++, java.. and thats kinda where I've spent the last 9 years or so coding enterprise java middleware & applications
15:54.20XuerianThat would be nice o.0
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15:54.45BarDwellrsanity is the loot sorting thing right? can it sort stuff into destruction too ?
15:54.51Uruloke_Antiarc: Like vBagnon?
15:56.04XuerianBarDwellr: Heh.... Well I learned everything en-route when I decided I wanted to make websites... then work on game mods... So html, then php, then torquescript (Odd amalgamation of... java and basic and.... other things)... nwscript (Java and basic...) and now lua XD
15:56.06AmadeoHm, I'm unimpressed with the Burning Crusade's cinematic
15:56.16Amadeoit doesn't have any point or flow to it
15:56.19Amadeoit's just random stuff
15:56.20kenlyricyou were not prepeared for it.
15:56.31kenlyrichave you ever watched the wow cinematic?
15:56.33odtlol
15:56.33AntiarcUruloke_: I guess I haven't played with vBagnon :)
15:56.36AntiarcI should try it out
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15:56.51Uruloke_It got item categories and you can drag them out to create new "bags"
15:56.54kenlyricthis one at leasts tells you blood elves are wicked nasty :)
15:56.58hugohello
15:57.00Amadeokenlyric: Yeah, that one's much better
15:57.09BarDwellrbloodelves are cute and fwuffy .. shhhh
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15:57.41AmadeoThis one's just like, "You're not prepared!" then at the end it's said again...but the voiceover is horrible and the demon looks the worst of all the characters
15:57.45Amadeohe looks out of proportion
15:57.51BarDwellranyone thought about a geocaching addon for warcraft?
15:57.57AntiarcI was under the impression that vBagnon didn't allow for custom categories
15:58.02kenlyricI'm still torn between oneview and sanity.
15:58.07Uruloke_BC cinematics? Give links!
15:58.15Amadeohttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/movies.html
15:58.17Antiarchttp://www.spiketv.com/events/vga2006/simulcast.html
15:58.18Uruloke_Antiarc: It very much does
15:58.26odthttp://media.worldofwarcraft.com/bc-cinematic/en_US/bc-cinematic-en.avi
15:58.27AntiarcWell then, no need to reinvent the wheel.
15:58.29Antiarc*grin*
15:58.37BarDwellrmy oneview is borked.. stuff viewed through oneview doesnt have the right name (dimly opalescent ring of fire resistance becomes dimly opalescent ring)
15:58.53hugois the winaceupdater 1.6beta useable?
15:59.06CIA-1703shiftos * r20579 10Wardrobe2/ (Wardrobe2.lua Wardrobe2.toc Wardrobe2Fu.lua): Wardrobe2: - added spanish translation
15:59.32Toadkillerman shiftos is a translating machine!
15:59.41shiftoslol
15:59.45Uruloke_Hehe
15:59.49Amadeothis is funny, I think WMP11 broke
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16:00.04Uruloke_You use WMP??
16:00.06beerkehmm can anyone fix the spanish bagfu locale ? Line 16 errors
16:00.11AntiarcThe spikeTV link is a flash stream
16:00.12XuerianSpanish translations? Hmm... Now we've got quite a band of them, don't we? XD
16:00.13AntiarcFWIW
16:00.34XuerianUruloke_: WMP11 isn't actually -that- bad.
16:00.44XuerianThough I still don't use it <.<
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16:00.54AmadeoWMP11 is decent for a video player
16:01.00AmadeoI wouldn't use it for much else
16:01.07Amadeobut it's breaking on AVI files for me right now
16:01.09Amadeojust crashes
16:01.13Amadeomaybe it's a codec issue
16:01.23BarDwellrtried videolanclient ? (vlc)
16:01.33Necrathexis there an easy way in ace to convert rgb values to hexadecimal?
16:01.33AmadeoI'm not a fan of VLC
16:01.40kenlyricwell, there's is a critical security flaw in 10 and 11
16:01.43AmadeoDecent program, just not for me
16:01.51Amadeokenlyric: I thought it was just 10
16:01.53XuerianMPC :3
16:02.13Amadeodoes MPC have its own codecs, or is it just a light player? I used to use it
16:02.14AntiarcNecrathex: There's a library that does that. Crayon, I think?
16:02.28Necrathexhm
16:02.33GnarfozAmadeo: MPC doesn't bring its own codecs
16:02.36AntiarcThough, the actual conversion isn't too hard. Just take the RGB value, multiply by 255, convert to hex, concat r ..g .. b
16:02.43AmadeoI see
16:02.49Gnarfozuses the ones present on your system... is a really great player though
16:02.55XuerianNecrathex: string.format("%2x%2x%2x", c.r*255, c.g*255, c.b*255)
16:02.56GnarfozI like and use it very much ^^
16:02.57NecrathexAntiarc: is there a lua fuction that does the actual hex conversion?
16:02.58Amadeoyeah, I used it years ago
16:03.06kergothmorning
16:03.12nevcairielmorning kergoth
16:03.13Xuerian'morning kergoth :P
16:03.15NecrathexXuerian: cool, thanks :)
16:03.31thaliemorning kergoth!
16:03.34kergothAmadeo: try media player classic.  thats what i use for videos
16:03.36kergoth~mornings
16:03.41purlMornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)
16:03.56kergothi need a destroy mornings coffee mug
16:04.40Amadeokergoth: Yeah I might go back to it
16:04.40GnarfozToadkiller: :Show()'s are gone in the current build ^^ seems fine (although the "Plain Buttons" checkbox acts a little weird (used to just show square buttons, texture only, now seems to hide the NormalTexture. and when you change the button size with that option on, the texture gets resized, but the normaltexture doesn't (or it's anchored somewhere else - they don't fit right in the end, anyways)
16:04.57Amadeokergoth: Though I just heard about this GOMPlayer, which is supposed to be similar to VLC as far as codecs
16:05.24Uruloke_MPC ftw I say :)
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16:06.00kergothwell, if the codecs are installed properly, as whatever, directshow filters, it wont matter what player you use, no?  every codec i have insatlled works fine in wmp and mpc
16:06.43AmadeoYeah, I've had a few problems at times on strange codecs, but they might have had bad installs too
16:06.43XuerianYep.
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16:07.25Toadkillergnar: yeah i want to rewrite all that so it behaves like bartender3 visually
16:07.51BarDwellrkergoth: almost right, except media player classic can have overrides to ignore or prefer given codecs.. great if u have a dumb app that requires 'its' codec to be the default, but want to use a different one yourself.
16:08.14Antiarckergoth: I updated kEnergy last night and it seemed far better behaved than it had been previously.
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16:09.46Xuerian~mjc
16:09.47purlACTION is ferally goodness
16:10.04XuerianHm. Not quite what I wanted to know, but duly noted... >.>
16:10.08Xuerian~seen mjc
16:10.45purlmjc <n=mjc@72-17-187-154.ftl.fdn.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 32m 49s ago, saying: 'ckknight: first thing blizz tells you to do'.
16:10.45kergothAntiarc: okay, thats good.  there's definately issues though, it resets on unit_energy unconditionally.  the implementation was naive.  i'd be willing to bet that a combat potency tick would reset the tick :P
16:10.45Amadeobrb
16:10.49kergothBarDwellr: ah, neat
16:11.03AntiarcI'm currently specced mutilate, so I can't say ;)
16:11.03Uruloke_kergoth: You only need to update it when energy is increasing, I'd say
16:11.23DeviadEternally777, hi, is there any torrent for cryolysis?
16:11.33kergothUruloke_: indeed, and even then, only if it increases by what we know is the correct tick amount, i'm sure
16:11.54kergothbah, damn self signed certificates making me have to click things
16:12.03Uruloke_kergoth: I have to deal with it myself in my EnergyTick module for ArcHUD
16:12.13NecrathexXuerian: can you tell me if there's an easy way to convert a hex string back to a number?
16:12.20Xuerianuh.
16:12.27kergothtonumber(foo, 16) -- :P
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16:12.35kergothreading the manual for the win
16:12.49Necrathexi was doing that :x
16:12.51Xueriankergoth: I'm thinking he means ###### -> r g b
16:13.16Necrathexthat's what i'm trying to do yes :)
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16:14.04toddBagFuLocale-esES.lua:16
16:14.05todd["Herb Bag"] = "Bolsa de Hierbas,
16:14.09toddmissing a " there :P
16:14.11Xuerianr, g, b = string.sub(hex, 1, 2)/255, string.sub(hex, 3, 4)/255, string.sub(hex, 5)/255 ?
16:14.33Xuerianoh hm
16:14.42NecrathexXuerian: got that, but i get an error because a number is expected
16:14.52Silviu-todd slap shiftos :)
16:14.54Necrathexarithmetic on string
16:14.55Xueriantonumber(..., 10) should be around each of those >_>
16:14.59Xuerianor... something
16:15.09Tullertonumber(hex, 16)
16:15.18Xuerian^
16:15.26Necrathexkk
16:15.42AntiarcThe second parameter is the source base, destination base is assumed to be 10?
16:15.44shiftosTodd: idd
16:16.08AntiarcOny dropped Ten Storms for us last night :(
16:16.22kergoth"destination base" doesn't make any sense.  a number is a number, regardless of how lua stores it internally
16:16.32kergothmeh, need caffeine
16:17.08Necrathex"An optional argument specifies the base to interpret the numeral. The base may be any integer between 2 and 36, inclusive."
16:17.17Tullerthe answer is yes, it returns base10
16:17.21Necrathextonumber(hex, 16) should work
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16:17.50Tullerit does work, because that's how bagnon does quality border coloring :P
16:18.00Gnarfoznevcairiel: ping
16:18.31CIA-1703shiftos * r20580 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_BagFu - fixed a string in the spanish file
16:18.43shiftosTodd: should be fixed now
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16:20.04Tullera better solution for localizing herb bag:
16:20.06Tuller['Herb Bag'] = select(3, GetAuctionItemSubClasses(3))
16:20.09nevcairielGnarfoz: pong
16:20.22Gnarfoznevcairiel: is your rewrite of the BT3 paging system complete? ;)
16:20.35Gnarfozstill using 19746 because that's the last one that had the old paging in
16:20.45nevcairielyeah should be working again
16:20.52kergothTuller: hehe, cheater
16:21.00Gnarfozgreat, I'll try updating then
16:21.00Gnarfoz:)
16:21.08AntiarcI did an update from SVN last night and paging worked nicely.
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16:22.12Tullerkergoth: the only subtypes I can't get that way are Devices, Junk, Key, Parts, Explosives, and Gems :)
16:22.19AntiarcHahahah, WOW.
16:22.21Gnarfoz(actually I'm only in need of correct stance based paging, the other neato stuff like enemy based paging (which was the reason for the rewrite, IIRC) I don't care about ^^)
16:22.32Antiarc"Looks like the new calculation is -30% for bonus honor, then another - 30% at the end of the day. Total nerf =-51% honor. "
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16:22.50Tullerhrm, enemy based paging?
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16:22.56krunk-Morning
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16:23.02nevcairielits not complete yet
16:23.03Tullerto the svn!
16:23.12nevcairieli only rewrote my paging system to allow it
16:23.15nevcairielits not in
16:23.16nevcairiel:)
16:23.55nevcairielTuller: ive had complaints about people having lag spikes when changing equip with BT3, is there anything you would know about that?
16:24.14ToadkillerTuller: are you the bagnon guy?
16:24.18Gnarfozchanging equip via bt3? or while having bt3? :D
16:24.19TullerToadkiller: yes
16:24.28nevcairielGnarfoz: both
16:24.35nevcairielapparently
16:24.38sylvanaarBenumbed: ping
16:24.39Gnarfozlike... dragging an item into a bt3 bar?
16:24.40nevcairieli couldnt reproduce any
16:24.41Tullernevcairiel: it should have been minimized if you cache GetPagedID
16:24.43vid`did something change with right click self cast btw?
16:24.58GnarfozI'll try that, too then ^^
16:25.01vid`i havent been able to get right click self cast to work in BT3/rSelfCast/RightWing for last several days
16:25.08nevcairielhm
16:25.12nevcairiellogging in right now
16:25.14nevcairiellet me test
16:25.16vid`only way it works is if i use blizzards modifier key~
16:25.21Tullernevcairiel: Shadowform also switches on Spirit of Redemption
16:25.29nevcairiellol
16:25.32nevcairielwell
16:25.38krunk-Is there a nice tutorial on using ace to make the gui components of an addon? I did the WelcomeHome tutorial and was looking for the next step up in tuts?
16:25.43nevcairieli dont think people who actually have shadow form have the spirit
16:26.11Tullernevcairiel: I know, but for all two people who want to change on spirit :)
16:27.04nevcairielhehe
16:27.25CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20581 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Missing conditional to prevent hilighting of invite links when the feature is disabled
16:27.50CIA-1703elkano * r20582 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.lua:
16:27.50CIA-17FuBar_FriendsFu
16:27.50CIA-17- beware of nil...
16:27.53CIA-1703elkano * r20583 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.lua:
16:27.53CIA-17FuBar_GuildFu
16:27.53CIA-17- beware of nil...
16:28.48kenlyricactually, you can get a pretty decent healing/shadowform build going at level 66 that includes spirit of redemption.
16:29.04FtH|eagleTuller: how long will it take until enemy/friendly paging will be again in bongos? It's one of those features I don't want to miss :P
16:29.27TullerFtH|eagle: next thing on my list
16:29.34TullerFtH|eagle: but its part of a probably large update
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16:30.24FtH|eagleyeah :D
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16:31.32kebinusanag`, in ag_uf could you add an option to prioritize raid curses so they always show up in the first debuff slots or something so they are easy to see
16:32.09Tullerin that, if stance issues are finally fixed with the update I put out today, it should be the next thing I doish
16:33.23Tullerfriendly/enemy paging would be really easy if the unitcheck in secureactionbutton defaulted to target in the event unit is not set
16:34.25Vegetawhat is the latest Revision of ELKBuffBar ?
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16:35.53Vegetadoes anyone know ?
16:36.02markvi'm kind of confused why there is 'elkbuffbar' and 'elkbuffbarS' on the wowace.com/files
16:36.18Gnarfozthe one with S is just a test/dev version
16:36.33Vegetai cant look by myself cause my browser does not open the ace website :(
16:37.11markvebb is r18941, ebbs is 19637
16:37.18Vegetathanks
16:37.20CIA-1703fenlis * r20584 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua: ag_UnitFrames : Update locales 'koKR'
16:37.25markvi'm using ebb
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16:38.14Vegetame too
16:38.15kenlyricebb was updated before the patch... does it still work?
16:38.21Vegetayes
16:38.35kenlyricwell, now I know why it wasn't working when I loaded up ebbs :)
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16:40.10[CyberToast]did blizz already add more debuff slots to mobs?
16:40.36Josh_Borkethey are up to 40
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16:41.13[CyberToast]what about players?
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16:41.22boone_grmbl, why can't my TopScoreFu stop recording healing..
16:41.33kenlyricdid you turn on healing recording?
16:41.43boone_no, it's disabled, but still recording
16:41.46Josh_Borke[CyberToast]: same
16:41.49boone_really weird
16:41.55[CyberToast]ok good
16:42.06kenlyricI think it still records it but doesn't display it.
16:42.11CIA-1703shiftos * r20585 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (FuBar_HonorFu.toc HonorFuLocale-esES.lua): FuBar_HonorFu - added spanish translation
16:42.35boone_well, i don't want it to record at all, one bg and the window is filled with <x's <insert healing spell here>>
16:42.39kenlyricis wowace fleeing to spain? ;)
16:42.49CIA-1703shiftos * r20586 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ (ExperienceFuLocals-esES.lua FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc): FuBar_ExperienceFu - added spanish translation
16:43.02kenlyricwell, you don't hit new records very often :)
16:43.28boone_kenlyric, every time a new person throws a new healingspell, it's added to the list
16:43.31boone_the window gets quite big after a few minutes
16:44.32[CyberToast]id do a mirror of wowace
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16:44.45[CyberToast]i mean what the hell why not
16:45.26Barbanusboone_ I used to have the same issue, where it recorded other peoples healing spells... but I dont have the problem anymore .. not sure what changed.
16:45.40boone_Barbanus, if you ever figure out what you did to stop it, let me know ;)
16:47.11BarbanusWell I force updated all of my ace mods the other day using WAU, and it fixed lots of quirks ... might of been some outdated libs .. not sure if thats what fixed this one too
16:47.44boone_i updated all my ace-addons & fubar-addons i use to latest version today aswell, but the problem remained unfortunately
16:48.14Barbanusdid you ignore version number, and force them all to update anyways?
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16:48.43krunk-What is this AddOn Kit and why/would/should I install it?
16:48.51Josh_Borke~addonkit
16:48.54boone_hmm, i've updated all mine manually, is WAU some automated updater?
16:48.54cncfanaticsyo all
16:48.57Josh_Borkei don't think that's the right one
16:49.02Barbanusboone_, yea
16:49.02cncfanatics~seen ckknight
16:49.25purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 49m 4s ago, saying: 'lol, Barbanus '.
16:49.25BarbanusWowAceUpdater
16:49.25boone_that's something i've totally missed then, i'll check WAU out, thanks
16:49.25Necrathexwtf, string.sub has start and end as params, not start and lenght :S
16:49.25Barbanus~wowaceupdater
16:49.36Necrathextook me a while to find that out :x
16:49.43krunk-should I install both art and data? How do I use it? Why is the sky blue? Should I start smoking hash before noon?
16:49.48krunk-I really need some answers here! :P
16:50.11Toadkilleru dont need art unless u need to look at the textures & stuff
16:50.11Antiarcart = BLPs and the like. Data = FrameXML contents, including XML and Lua for all of Blizzard's frames.
16:50.38Barbanuspurl wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
16:50.40purlokay, Barbanus
16:50.44Barbanus~wowaceupdater
16:50.46purli heard wowaceupdater is http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
16:50.49krunk-I basically want to make a mod that works somewhat like necrosis..but not bloated
16:51.07[CyberToast]krunk-: i would have your children if i could if you pulled it off
16:51.08deltronwhat's necrosis do?
16:51.11CIA-1703shiftos * r20587 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_BagFu - included accents in the spanish translation
16:51.13[CyberToast]its warlock mod
16:51.20deltronah
16:51.20[CyberToast]only thing ir ewally use it for is a shard counter
16:51.23[CyberToast]spelltimers
16:51.27[CyberToast]which are really accurate
16:51.32CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20588 10Prat/ (Prat.toc modules/ChatTabs.lua): Prat: Adds new module ChatTabs, defaults to disabled. Will need some tuning i think, and most likely needs to be merged into the ChatFrames module.
16:51.34[CyberToast]and healthstone soulstone creation
16:51.37krunk-I use my shard bag as a counter. if it says 24, I'm good
16:51.48krunk-mostly what I want is spell consolidation
16:51.51[CyberToast]i overfill my shard bag
16:51.54[CyberToast]all the time
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16:52.03[CyberToast]so it helps me out knowing exaclty how many i have across my bags
16:52.03sylvanaarSoLoR: ping
16:52.09BarbanusNecrosis is like Henge, it creates a cicular menu for all of your warlock spells, and the extras that [CyberToast] said
16:52.14ToadkillerSay is there a good ace replacement for Gatherer?
16:52.20krunk-me too, when my bag says 23...I should start trying to drain :P
16:52.23[CyberToast]exactly barbanus
16:52.27deltronheh most of our locks have like 60 shards per raid
16:52.32HjalteToadkiller: Try cartographer and the herbalism and miner plugins
16:52.36krunk-deltron: fuck that bullshit
16:52.45deltronkrunk-: eh why?
16:53.00krunk-deltron: I wouldn't have room for crap and I have all ony bags
16:53.03[CyberToast]krunk-: what are you thinking of tho... i mean what type of features you thinking of
16:53.27deltronkrunk-: you give out healthstones like crazy though?
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16:53.38TheKarnhenge doesnt do anything
16:53.40krunk-deltron: nah
16:53.46[CyberToast]deltron: which self respecitng warlock does
16:53.47deltronkrunk-: that'd be why :P
16:53.52BarbanusTheKarn, depends on your class ...
16:54.03krunk-deltron: health stones are only there to supplament lazy raiders since they made them on the same cooldown as tubars
16:54.05BarbanusMost of our locks have 20ish per raid, and just make them during the raid.
16:54.12TheKarni've tried it on priest, rogue and druid
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16:54.15Barbanus^^ what krunk- said
16:54.25deltronhard to make them in BWL :P
16:54.34BarbanusTheKarn, its functional on a warlock, mage, uhhh not sure what else
16:54.35kenlyricnah, putting them on the same cooldown just means you don't have to collect tubers anymore.
16:54.36sylvanaarag`_: ping
16:54.47ag`_yeah=
16:54.50[CyberToast]I AM NOT A WALKING STAM BUFF!
16:54.50ag`_?
16:54.58krunk-deltron: if you wipe so much you've used all your tubars (assuming you farmed them) then you've probably used all the other regeants to keep the raid going smoothly...call it a night
16:55.00thalieyou are so
16:55.02kenlyricyes you are.
16:55.05kenlyricas am I.
16:55.05thalienow buff me
16:55.06[CyberToast]*sniff*
16:55.12krunk-I purposefully don't get imp imp
16:55.19[CyberToast]yeah i dont anymore either
16:55.23johAny cyCircled people here? Why is the border showing on buttons with no actions assigned to them?
16:55.26Barbanusdeltron, no its not .. :P Raz = mages, Vael = goblins, After vael = dragon trash, suppression room, drake trash ...
16:55.29kenlyrichmmm.. can I restack items in Sanity?
16:55.29ag`_sylvanaar: what?
16:55.38krunk-because I got it once as a ds/ruin lock and I turned into a gimp damage tank monkey
16:55.41kenlyricI can't seem to just drag and drop two incomplete stacks.
16:55.46krunk-'place your imp krunk'
16:55.51Barbanusif you cant make soulstones in BWL, there is something wrong.
16:55.51deltronkrunk-: I don't use tubers :P
16:55.56sylvanaarag`_: is it possible for you to incorporate a change similar to the one I posted in the agUF thread. so that the blizz unit menu is shown on alt-ctrl instead of alt or ctrl
16:56.01deltronwhatever those are
16:56.07[CyberToast]krunk-: i went ds/ruin when i was gearless and my damage output was increased a lot
16:56.14krunk-deltron: they are a health stone for people who can't summon them ;)
16:56.18ag`_sylvanaar: I would suggest you use a click addon for that
16:56.18[CyberToast]but after i got gear it became a little crappy
16:56.19ag`_clique
16:56.29sylvanaarag`_: thats the problem
16:56.44boone_Barbanus, don't know if WAU will fix the problem, but it sure was a lifesaver when it comes to updating addons, thanks ;).
16:56.49CIA-1703usz * r20589 10TooltipExchange/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
16:56.49CIA-17TooltipExchange
16:56.49CIA-17- Compost no more
16:56.57Barbanusboone_, no problem :)
16:57.02kergothdeltron: whipper root tubers, from the felwood.  they're on the same cooldown as healthstones as they mentioned above.  fairly easy to farm
16:57.05krunk-deltron: takes about as long to farm a tubar as it does to farm a shard...cept they stack
16:57.17sylvanaarag`_: you cant because aguf is intercepting ctrl and alt for its own menus by default
16:57.27kebinusananyone know why rosterlib mods are causing a huge increasing rate in raids?
16:57.33Antiarckenlyric: You should be able to
16:57.36deltronah, nice
16:57.53AntiarcYou might try turning off the stack condensing
16:57.54deltroni can heal myself, so I never really have to worry about that kinda stuff
16:58.00Grineag`_, !!!! please add my compact.lua with portraits ;)
16:58.05kenlyricI did do that, figuring it was the problem.
16:58.05krunk-deltron: that being said, I give HS to friends and I'm never stingy with them.. you just got to keep people in check or they'll have you out farming shards 2 hours before a raid so they don't have to fly to felwood and farm tubers
16:58.10AntiarcThere are a few problems there that I am looking to fix tonight. Stuff isn't updating when it should - optimizations are too aggressive.
16:58.14kenlyricI was able to successfuly split a stack up.
16:58.23Barbanusmeh, if your raid needs pots or tubers, or healthstones, then your healers suck
16:58.37ag`_Grine: I didn't get a mail :(
16:58.38AntiarcWhen stacks are condensed, it represents the entire however-many stacks as the slot of the first instance of the item it finds
16:58.38[CyberToast]Barbanus: true true
16:58.41kenlyricnever mind, I was just clicking the wrong way.
16:58.42Grineomg...
16:58.44deltronwe primarily give the healthstones to the rogues
16:58.51krunk-Barbanus: I wasn't going to go there hehe
16:58.51GrineI sent you one, guess it got lost along the way
16:58.51Barbanus<<== Healer
16:58.56AntiarcSo, if you have a stack of 1, then a stack of 6, it'll take the bag/slot of the 1, and you can't split a stack of 1.
16:59.02[CyberToast]we just shove a shadow priest with the rogues
16:59.05kenlyricI was trying to go icon to icon, but when I went name to name, it worked.
16:59.08[CyberToast]if they go down oh well
16:59.10krunk-deltron: I have a 60 rogue, so I say this with all sincerity: fuck rogues. tell them to farm tubers
16:59.18deltronkrunk-: lol
16:59.25AntiarcYeah, the icon's click events are special. I use those to pull up the category/tagging menus.
16:59.33ToadkillerLazy bitches: go farm shards so u can give me healthstones!
16:59.36deltronbecause tubers restore 1400 health right? :P
16:59.36Grineandreas at n a b o l a g e t dot o r g?
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16:59.43AntiarcAnd yeah, rogues shouldn't need healthstones except maybe for new boss fights.
16:59.51BarbanusTell your healers to watch the rogues ... rogue dps is important.... I never got the whole "not healing rogues" thing
16:59.53krunk-deltron: neither do my health stones
16:59.57AntiarcThey're good for places like Anub, where nobody can die.
17:00.08deltron1330, 1200, whatever
17:00.10AntiarcBut for the most part, bandages, tubers, and pots should cover them where the healers slack.
17:00.15[CyberToast]well most people that play rogues do this in a raid
17:00.21ToadkillerNot healing rogues is for when u still suck in MC
17:00.26BarbanusEvery time we do thaddius, the melee group beats the caster group by 10-15%
17:00.30[CyberToast]"Why didnt i get any heals!?!?!?! i was jumping in front of you yelling the whole time to heal me!"
17:00.33kenlyricwe only joke about not healing rogues.
17:00.38kenlyricIt's paladins we don't heal.
17:00.58sylvanaarag`_: clique can only tell the frame to show the unit menu, agUF decides which one it will show
17:01.01BarbanusI like the new paladin, getting mana from getting heals :P
17:01.06deltronheh paladins :P
17:01.08[CyberToast]why would you heal a pally tho
17:01.09Barbanus*spell*
17:01.15krunk-kenlyric: when I was a raid leader I used to be like "and fuck you rogues, get out and bandage if your hurt" then I'd say in healer chat "make sure the idiots don't die"
17:01.17[CyberToast]if they can't take the time to heal themselves then wtf
17:01.19Barbanus[CyberToast] cause it gives them mana!
17:01.28[CyberToast]oh screw their mana
17:01.31[CyberToast]tell em to reroll
17:01.32Barbanus[CyberToast] then they can heal more ppl! :P
17:01.35[CyberToast]lol
17:01.39[CyberToast]i didnt know that
17:01.41[CyberToast]dont play alliance
17:01.43kenlyrickrunk, well sure... that's why we lie about rogues... don't want them getty comfy. On lots of fights, they take damage they shouldn't.
17:01.53AntiarcYeah, new paladin "tanking" talent gives the paladin mana when someone else heals him.
17:01.59BarbanusIts awesome
17:02.01[CyberToast]what?!
17:02.02AntiarcYup.
17:02.05[CyberToast]omg
17:02.06[CyberToast]thats hot
17:02.09AntiarcWait, it's not a talent, is it?
17:02.12AntiarcIt's a trained skill
17:02.13krunk-kenlyric: exactly, say they'll never get healed and you can count on them bandaging once or so in a fight :P
17:02.14AntiarcI don't remember
17:02.17Barbanusso a paladin should never heal themself.
17:02.19BarbanusSomeone else should
17:02.20kenlyricwell, I'll heal a druid or another priest... they might be busy healing someone important. But  a paladin has no excuse.
17:02.20GnarfozToadkiller: more NormalTexture weirdness: on a button that is created after I checked the "plain buttons" checkbox (i.e. I bought new potions, thus a new button was created because i didn't have any before) shows the normaltexture
17:02.21[CyberToast]its a skill?
17:02.23Antiarc<--- has a 50 paladin that he can't bring himself to play.
17:02.24Toadkilleroh man I can't wait to roll up my hot blood elf paladin!
17:02.24Barbanusmore raid mana efficient that way
17:02.24AntiarcI think so.
17:02.27BarbanusIts a base spell
17:02.32[CyberToast]thats hot
17:02.39BarbanusIts passive too
17:02.56[CyberToast]so lets say uberdrood over here crit heals pally for 8k
17:03.00GnarfozToadkiller: and: the fourth (or fifth?) pop-up button in my healing potions category also has a normaltexture around it, although at the wrong scale. the first 3 don't have it
17:03.00AntiarcPally gets 800 mana.
17:03.06[CyberToast]wow
17:03.06BarbanusIts 8%
17:03.11Barbanusso like 600, but yea
17:03.13TheKarnofftopic: anyone know a way to rip a region1 dvd in a region2 drive?
17:03.13AntiarcOh, is it 8? I thought it was 10%.
17:03.16AntiarcBut still, it's hotness.
17:03.18Barbanusoverheals count too
17:03.23cohuthere is rank 2 with 10%
17:03.23[CyberToast]overheals count too?
17:03.30cohuyou get it in the mid 60's
17:03.30Barbanusso if I get overhealed for 6k, I get that mana still
17:03.32[CyberToast]ok so you can just hot the pally like mad
17:03.36cohuyes overheals do count
17:03.36[CyberToast]and have him regen mana the whole fight
17:03.39AntiarcHoTs don't count as overheal
17:03.42[CyberToast]o
17:03.48AntiarcThey don't tick if you're at full health
17:03.48Barbanusyea, hots dont tick
17:03.55[CyberToast]oh thats boo
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17:04.00BarbanusYea, lol
17:04.01[CyberToast]see how much i know about healing
17:04.08Amadeolol
17:04.08BarbanusI could use a tree as a battery
17:04.09AmadeoWelcome to The Lord of the Rings Online™: Shadows of Angmar™ (LOTRO) Beta Program! We appreciate you taking the time to sign up for the Beta Program and we are pleased to invite you to join us for this phase.
17:04.16AmadeoI don't even remember signing up
17:04.22krunk-deltron: tubers heal for 900, or 300 less then a HS. No raid wiped due to a 300 diff in a consumeable heal. Warlocks have quit because they're guild required ridiculous shard farming :P
17:04.23kenlyricAmadeo... they invited everyone they could.
17:04.23[CyberToast]i got that too
17:04.27[CyberToast]and i didnt sign up
17:04.30kenlyricSince, you know, no one will be playing their actual game.
17:04.31Grineag`_, if you still want the file, tell me the email addy again :)
17:04.34kergothkrunk-: heh, as a rogue, i always assume i'm not getting heals and bandage.  if i get one, thats just a bonus
17:04.37Amadeohaha, yeah I bet
17:04.45AmadeoTurbine though...I liked old AC :)
17:04.48[CyberToast]rogues should always have bandaids
17:04.48ag`_Grine: yes please
17:04.49[CyberToast]and pots
17:04.54[CyberToast]and thistle tea for gods sake
17:04.56kenlyricyes, but they fucked up every game after AC
17:04.56neeneeHm. can anyone recommend me some good bitmap/monotype fonts for windows?
17:04.56AntiarcI tend to take responsibility for my health, but rogues really need healing support. We take a fleckton of damage and we can't help it.
17:05.01krunk-kergoth: that's how I play my rogue. . . but then my fiance is a priest. Lot's of bonuses
17:05.07ag`_Grine: andreas at nabolaget dot org
17:05.10AntiarcMy potion and bandage timers are constantly on cooldown, so yeah, need a little love sometimes.
17:05.14haarmkrunk- warlocks need to do something that requires a little effort, even if it is farming
17:05.17[CyberToast]like on what fights antiarc?
17:05.17kenlyricAntiarc, depends on the fight... if you pull  aggro and take damage, I have no sympathy
17:05.24kenlyricif it's aoe damage, then yeah.
17:05.25cohudoes this new rogue talent with +20% heal work with pots and bandages?
17:05.30Antiarccohu: Yes
17:05.32cohunice
17:05.33AntiarcI'm not talking about pulling aggro. Just splash damage
17:05.39[CyberToast]o
17:05.39AntiarcCleaves, stomps, AoE, etc.
17:05.46[CyberToast]most of those you can time tho
17:05.50[CyberToast]well a few
17:05.50kenlyricbut, like when rogues take damage on the Thorns mobs at the beginning of AQ40, I just let them die.
17:05.51BarbanusLast night on Thaddius, we went right into the enrage (cause people cant fucking swap properly), I was #1 on healing, and 70% mana at the end of the fight.  I beat all other healers by 40k healing :P
17:05.52krunk-haarm: but they do, they farm for themselves. That's the point, farming for shards and whippers take about the same time. Thus, why should the lock farm for someone else
17:05.55BarbanusCan't say Paladins cant heal
17:05.56Amadeowow
17:05.56AntiarcAnub, for example, rogues tend to eat impales like crazy.
17:06.01Amadeoare the LOTR graphics this good? http://lorimages.turbine.com/files/38/41/98/88/796.jpg
17:06.07GnarfozToadkiller: correction on the pop-up thing: it's the fourth pop-up button, thus the fifth button in the category (including the non-popup one), and it looks like this: square texture at the right scale, with a normaltexture at the wrong scale (creating a gap between both of them)
17:06.11AntiarcI pop potions and bandages every time I can, but chances are good that I'll get impaled twice in under a minute.
17:06.23kenlyricthe graphics are good, but it feels more like a cartoon than wow does.
17:06.23haarmkrunk-, because they don't pay repair costs
17:06.28Amadeokenlyric: Have you tried it?
17:06.29[CyberToast]do you back out of away from combat to bandaid?
17:06.30krunk-haarm: um ok
17:06.35AntiarcYes.
17:06.40BarbanusI have this thing about watching rogues and warlocks ...
17:06.43kenlyricAmadeo, yeah. I wasn't impressed.
17:06.45AntiarcBut after I bandage and charge back in, and eat another impale...
17:06.46Amadeobah
17:06.49AmadeoI'll check it out anyway at some point
17:06.51[CyberToast]oh that blows
17:06.53Amadeo:)
17:06.54krunk-haarm: my last repair was 10g. Bout the same as a rogue eh?
17:06.58AntiarcI have no self-healing recourse and have to camp in a safe spot until I get a heal.
17:07.07Barbanuskrunk-, my repair last night was 22g :(
17:07.08haarmi dunno, i play priest mainly
17:07.10kenlyricI'm a big fan of LotR, but it just kinda feels like playing wow in middle earth.
17:07.12[CyberToast]krunkt-: last night mine was 14
17:07.20krunk-ouch
17:07.23kenlyricexcept I'm a goddamn minstrel in the game, which is the worst class name ever.
17:07.26Grineag`_, I remembered something else, is it possible for you to add a oUF like bufflayout? with debuffs under, buffs on top of frame?
17:07.29haarmmy last repair bill was 17g
17:07.29[CyberToast]about 3 sets of gear tho
17:07.32krunk-need to get on tht hellfire timing :)
17:07.35[CyberToast]that i switch constantly
17:07.37haarmand i get to hearthstone out every hour
17:07.39Grinemail sent btw
17:07.44thalieken: i am in the beta too... haven't logged in yet
17:07.49Barbanushaarm, what class?
17:07.52haarmpriest
17:07.58Barbanushehe
17:08.03[CyberToast]krunk-: does your hellfire hit harder each tick now?
17:08.06AntiarcI had a 29g repair bill all told in Naxx a couple of weeks ago.
17:08.07[CyberToast]since the patch i mean
17:08.09Aileen_nekkid FD ftw ;)  my repair bills are usually 5-10g, although if it's been a rough night in Naxx, maybe like 20-25
17:08.23haarmaka, the class still trying to keep people alive while other motherfuckers are hellfiring and running away ;)
17:08.32krunk-cyber yeah, but I was sm/ruin before and now I'm full destro..kinda hard to judge why
17:08.39kenlyricwait, you hit 20g as a hunter?
17:08.52kenlyricand they're usually 5-10g?
17:08.55haarmsome bosses you can't feign at
17:08.57Barbanus[CyberToast] want to hear the 2nd best paladin talent?  ever crit heal I have, refunds 100% of the mana from the spell.
17:09.01haarmliiike, gluth for example
17:09.08Barbanuss/ever/every
17:09.09[CyberToast]omfg
17:09.12[CyberToast]thats insane
17:09.23krunk-sometimes when the raid is red and we drop a repair bot I'm still at 50% 'sh
17:09.53AntiarcHunters should take a 2% durability hit for using FD >:(
17:09.57Antiarc<--- disgruntled rogue
17:10.08[CyberToast]hunters shouldnt be pulled out of combat for fd
17:10.13krunk-Antiarc: vanish *cough*
17:10.14Aileen_yeah sometimes it fails or it doesn't fail but I don't get out of combat to swap gear and I die from something ticking away
17:10.15[CyberToast]and they should lose half hp
17:10.23thaliekrunk: lol i was going to say the same
17:10.25Antiarckrunk-: Vanish isn't worth crap in instances.
17:10.29Antiarcgg combat pulses.
17:10.39haarmlike i've been saying for over a year... the whole hunter problem can be solved, simply by removing the class restriction from tranq shot
17:10.46krunk-Antiarc: if you time it right, you can live. It's not 100% but neither is FD or Hellfire
17:10.50Grine<PROTECTED>
17:10.51AntiarcA rogue will not avoid a wipe with vanish unless he is the very last person on the aggro list.
17:11.09AntiarcAnd rogues aren't often last on the aggro list unless they recently used Vanish :P
17:11.23Grinekrunk-, with vanish you only have one chance though :P
17:11.24[CyberToast]im usually right behind the tanks
17:11.31[CyberToast]rogues under me
17:11.37krunk-Antiarc: I believe FD suffers the same problem doesn't it? Me and hunter take turns trying to get the other killed first so we can drop
17:11.39AntiarcAnd yes, it's an aggro dump, but that's not the point. We're talking about repair bills. :P
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17:12.09GrineI know Antiarc ;) though you said it's useless in raids! omglol newb!
17:12.09AntiarcI don't believe it does. After every wipe, our huntere pop right back up, regularly.
17:12.09kergothhttp://openmoko.com/ - nifty
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17:12.26AntiarcSorry, poor wording on my part.
17:12.31GrineAntiarc, 30 sec cooldown is the great diff
17:12.33AntiarcIt isn't worth crap re: avoiding death in instances.
17:12.36kenlyricI think FD shouldn't keep you from dying in an instance, and suicide should cause item damage. Damn cheaters.
17:12.52[CyberToast]ya know
17:12.56[CyberToast]death shouldnt cause item damage
17:13.01[CyberToast]getting beat on should
17:13.05[CyberToast]and they should lower the repair cost
17:13.06haarmit does
17:13.09[CyberToast]but make you repair more often
17:13.11[CyberToast]i know it does
17:13.13[CyberToast]but not enough
17:13.25[CyberToast]ok i die so i loose 10%
17:13.26[CyberToast]wtf is that
17:13.27kenlyricit's supposed to be a deterrent to dying.
17:13.37kenlyricbut... there are plenty of those anyway.
17:13.47banditronwhy do my boots regularly need repairing? are mobs stomping on my toes?
17:13.48AntiarcRepair costs are mostly just a minor annoyance.
17:14.02kenlyricwhy does my staff need repairing?
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17:14.05haarmimagine wow with hardcore mode, just like diablo 2 :D
17:14.05AntiarcIt's an economy drain, really. That's the only reason it exists.
17:14.12banditronyou may parry w/ the staff
17:14.15[CyberToast]that would be a much different place
17:14.21kenlyricI don't even hold the staff.
17:14.24kenlyricit sits on my back.
17:14.32Antiarc[CyberToast]: No one would get past their first murloc encounter
17:14.33banditronhaha. then your back parries
17:14.37[CyberToast]lol
17:14.37haarmit has woodworm
17:14.46kenlyricand let's not even talk about my pants, which are completely under my robe.
17:14.46Antiarc[1. General] LF38M for murloc quest, PST
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17:14.55kergothlol
17:14.56[CyberToast]lol antiarc
17:15.14Antiarcbanditron: You can't parry attacks from behind >_>
17:15.28banditronlol it's not prison!
17:15.42[CyberToast]thats bad
17:15.51[CyberToast]noone should even take attacks from behidn
17:15.53[CyberToast]thats just wrong
17:16.38kenlyricman, informant is completely hosed. It's trying to tell me a linen bag vendors for 2g ;)
17:16.43Barbanusrofl, speaking of taking attacks from behind ... we had our 6/8 DN prot tank run the flag in WSG last night
17:16.44nevcairielSo i do have a CheckButton, and every time i click on it, wow shows its normal texture, anyway i can avoid that?
17:16.49krunk-I love when hunters parry when I ambush from behind while they're mounted
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17:16.55krunk-Now you should have fun with that one guys
17:16.56BarbanusSome rogue was crit BS'in him for 200
17:17.13banditronyou're right tho. repair should go to the things that get hit. not just some distributed dmg thing.
17:17.39AntiarcIt annoys me like none other that we get dodged/parried positional attacks against other players, when you're not supposed to be able to dodge/parry attacks from behind.
17:17.41krunk-banditron: it does, except on death which is a gear wide -10%
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17:18.02krunk-banditron: doesn't it? Seems so
17:18.14kenlyricarmor is random.
17:18.14banditronthen how does kenlyric's staff get damage when he has it holstered as a caster
17:18.15Barbanusit definately does
17:18.25krunk-Antiarc: btw, that is now a verified bug that is being worked on
17:18.26Barbanusa tank can have 0 deaths, and be at 80% dura
17:18.31kenlyricweapons take more damage if they are used.
17:18.43Barbanuskenlyric, remember rag?
17:18.52Antiarckrunk-: seriously? They actually acknowledged it after TWO YEARS?
17:18.52Barbanusrag melts your weapon, and it takes a fuckton of dmg
17:18.54Barbanusdura*
17:18.58krunk-banditron: when someone attacks, there's a random roll that determines what is hit if I'm not mistaken
17:19.03AntiarcThat's a specific debuff though
17:19.04kenlyricI rarely melee rag, as  priest.
17:19.06krunk-Antiarc: yeppers
17:19.11banditronlike a murloc hitting me in the head....
17:19.11AntiarcYAYS.
17:19.16neeneehm
17:19.29kenlyricit's sad that I have to say "rarely" in that context, instead of never...
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17:19.29neeneeok
17:19.36banditronor a giant swinging at my feet
17:19.45krunk-Antiarc: now if we can just get them to admit that 100yd range heat seeking missiles that can see through stealth is just a tad bit unbalanced we're set (otherwise known as pets)
17:19.53haarmok, never saw it that dramatic before.. initial memory 18.2 .. current memory 13.6
17:19.53AntiarcYeah :/
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17:20.22Barbanuskrunk-, yea
17:20.23thaliemorning ckknight
17:20.25krunk-Antiarc: oh, and lvl 1's knocking tier 2 rogues out of stealth with auto attack
17:20.31AntiarcYes :(
17:20.36Barbanuspets seeing through stealth is HUGELY broken
17:20.45kergothhaarm: i've gone from 26-28 at login to 48 without loading auctioneer, just from k/s increase :(
17:20.48krunk-Antiarc: all the other ones I can deal with
17:20.49AntiarcThose sorts of things are the primary reason I don't think I will ever spec heavy sub.
17:20.53ckknighthey all
17:20.55AntiarcIt requires far too much reliance on stealth.
17:20.57IcerothBarbanus, they've always done that
17:20.59Barbanusset pet on aggressive .. watch a flag in AB ... win... MEH
17:20.59haarmkergoth, i disabled bugsack
17:21.02neeneekrunk-: Actually, I agree with that. Even an arrow fired by a 10-year-old can be deadly :)
17:21.05haarmand my grow rate is negative
17:21.12thaliehey ck - when are you going to be on wowradio?  tomorrow?
17:21.14Icerothand blizz response is that attack that is initiated before stealthing goes through
17:21.29BarbanusIceroth, always, or not, its still broken
17:21.36BarbanusIceroth, that is so not true.
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17:21.55BarbanusIceroth, an aggressive pet can see through stealth that has been up for 5 mins
17:21.56neeneeok
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17:22.05Icerothah, you mean like that
17:22.09krunk-Antiarc: I'm heavy subt right now...I can't see going any other way currently. 2x full magical dispells with 5s immuntiy to spells, 2x sprints blinds cheap shots vanishes, etc killer ambushes and starting a fight with 5 cb's is godly
17:22.10cncfanaticsckknight, ping
17:22.20haarmlol... if you vanish it breaks, if combat fades and you re-stealth, it doesn't.. even if you run for 10 mins the pet will still chase you.. its broken
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17:22.26Icerothi mean the old "hunter sets his pet from 60 yards away, you stealth, pet still comes"
17:22.31Antiarckrunk-: You won't get 2x the dispells once 2.0.2 hits, and you won't get two blinds.
17:22.50krunk-Antiarc: they took CoS off of the Prep wipe?
17:22.51cncfanatics~seen ckknight
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17:22.55AntiarcYes, and blind.
17:22.59krunk-Antiarc: fuck that shit
17:22.59AntiarcCoS is a 1 minute cooldown on beta though.
17:23.06AntiarcBlind is 3 minutes base
17:23.07krunk-Antiarc: ...but ok, I see why
17:23.08ckknightcncfanatics, *wave*
17:23.12AntiarcYou can talent it to 9 sec
17:23.12haarmit's also trainable, which is bullshit
17:23.19ckknightthalie, 1 week
17:23.25cncfanaticsckknight, I got some questions about AceOO
17:23.29krunk-Antiarc: I could get 10s of immunity with mages...kinda crazy
17:23.30ckknightk...
17:23.31AntiarcI played with Shadowstep in the arenas, and I just couldn't make it work for me.
17:23.43AntiarcIt destroys mages, but I had no punch once out of stealth
17:23.43cncfanaticsIs it efficient, both memory and performance wise, to have one object per button (for flexbar) like I want it to be ?
17:23.49AntiarcI am liking Mutilate for PVP a lot better.
17:24.00haarm41 combat still owns for pve :)
17:24.03cncfanaticscreates anywhere from 1 to infinite objects pottentialy
17:24.04kebinusanclos and blind arent on prep next patch
17:24.13CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20590 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: the NT is now no NT anymore but a T
17:24.19[CyberToast]brb
17:24.21nevcairielsomeone get blizz to reboot the beta servers :(
17:24.33haarmnev, what was NT? :D
17:24.40Gnarfozand what is T? ;D
17:24.41markvwait, did you just say rogues are getting a nerf??
17:24.44krunk-Antiarc: But even with that, with Hunters 2 shoting me, Mages one shotting me, if you let a warlock move he wtfpwns me with DC, Shadowfury, fear zomg zomg conflag, warrrios with 1600 ms's etc.....subt is the only way I'd go
17:24.51markvprep rogues that is?
17:24.57AntiarcFind Weakness + Imp KS + Cold Blood + Mutilate = death sentence for cloth.
17:25.03kergothcncfanatics: objects are very light, only one table per object. its the class thats heavy, but as long as you're not creating a ton of classes in a critical path, you're fine
17:25.13nevcairielhaarm: NT = NormalTexture, T = Texture
17:25.20haarmmarkv, no, they get buffed, CoS went from 41 point talent -> trainable + 1 min cooldown, nothing they can do can nerf rogues
17:25.23cncfanaticswell, I'd like to have every button to be totaly independant too kergoth
17:25.33AntiarcYeah, I know. Hunters are toned down a lot with the Beast Within nerf. Mages are about the same as they ever were - arcane mages are overpowered as hell in arenas. Warriors are pretty inconsequential now, actually.
17:25.35krunk-Antiarc: but how do you get around the mages blink jump spin IWIN macro?
17:25.39kergothwhat do you mean by "independent"?
17:25.43cncfanaticsso I'd have each class being a mixin of AceEvent, a Theme handler class, an event handler class, and a control class
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17:25.49AntiarcVanish, usually.
17:26.01AntiarcIf I'm chilled.
17:26.04HjalteIceroth: Any plans on introducing range checking, either like in metahud, or something like that mod that Sirow is proposing in the thread, in Icehud? :)
17:26.06krunk-ah, but if he launches the spell before you vanish....it still lands
17:26.12AntiarcNo it won't.
17:26.20cncfanaticskergoth, I want each button to be able to act on its own without relying on any functions outside the class (except blizz ones)
17:26.20AntiarcYou get a brief spell immunity when you hit vanish.
17:26.24AntiarcVery, very brief, but it's there.
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17:26.34AntiarcI've had no problem killing mages with a Mutilate build, really.
17:26.45AntiarcThe CP generation is so fast, I can throw in crazy damage very quickly.
17:26.48AntiarcYou just have to plan the blink.
17:26.51krunk-Antiarc: yep, confirmed working as intended. spells which have completed casting and are on way to target will land even if vanish is done mid way
17:26.54ckknightcncfanatics, one object = one table.
17:26.54kergothcncfanatics: that should be fine.  make them objects of that class you mentioned.  objects are like one table, classes are like 6
17:27.04ckknightso, efficient
17:27.07alcaras_hmm; suppose i want to keep my ag_uf frames up to date, but i also want to have my own slight changes in the code... any way to automate that with wowaceupdater? right now the updates are happily overwriting changes i made :-/
17:27.12Antiarckrunk-: I've observed the opposite on both the live and beta servers.
17:27.14ckknightkergoth, actually more like 3 now.
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17:27.25haarmbtw, we tested seal fate fist spec on a 70 rogue, it's naaaiiice :D
17:27.33cncfanaticsok, so I'm fine even with each object getting AceEvent inherited ?
17:27.41kergothcncfanatics: hm?
17:27.41kenlyricyeah, once they've been cast they cost mana. You can't run out of range of them, either.
17:27.43IcerothHjalte, some plans yea, haven't gotten around of making anything concrete yet though
17:27.48kergoththe class mixes in aceevent, not the object
17:27.51AntiarcI guess what I'm saying is that I've tried 41-point sub, assassination, and combat builds, and assassination is my favorite for PVP so far :)
17:27.51alcaras_e.g. right now i lose my custom layout and have to add it back into layout.xml
17:27.59cncfanaticsclass yea, sry :p
17:28.01krunk-Antiarc: they explained it as a coding thing. when a spell completes casting it's viewed as "completed' by the server...the rest is graphics
17:28.06kergoththe object just has a metatable pointing at the class, and that mt is shared amongst all objects of that class
17:28.09kenlyricon an epic mount, you can run a good long time away from a frostbolt cast a tmax range
17:28.13cncfanaticsok, lovely kergoth :)
17:28.21Antiarckrunk-: For some spells, and for the purpose of procs, yes
17:28.21krunk-if you vanish *mid cast* it'll interrupt
17:28.28AntiarcHowever, spells have projectile times, too
17:28.32AntiarcFor example, I have a frost mage.
17:28.42AntiarcI cast a frost spell, and frostbite can proc RIGHT when the spell finishes casting
17:28.49kergothckknight: 3 seems a bit light.. main table, prototype table, object's mt is 3 right there, not counting the mt for subclasses to use
17:28.52AntiarcHowever, the damage doesn't register till the projectile lands.
17:28.52kergothshould be at least 4, no?
17:29.03ckknightkergoth, could be, either way, I took it down from 6
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17:29.10ckknightalso, if it doesn't use interfaces, it doesn't have that table
17:29.13GnarfozI've yet to take damage from a frost/fire/shadow bolt that was already on it's way when I vanished
17:29.17ckknightif it doesn't use mixins, it doesn't have that table
17:29.18ckknightetc.
17:29.19kergothah, good, was curious about that
17:29.28AntiarcOver the past week, I PVPd like a madman, and multiple times I vanished, had spells hit me that were in the air when I vanished, and they neither damaged me or pulled me out of stealth.
17:29.40AntiarcThere's a brief moment where the rogue is immune. Very brief, but it's there.
17:29.51bindihm
17:29.52bindiwith prat
17:29.53cncfanaticsckknight,I use both interfaces and mixins :)
17:29.57Machine_lag related no doubt
17:29.59Gnarfozdoesn't show any "immune" message in the combat log, though
17:30.01ckknightthat's okay
17:30.12AntiarcIt shows immune to the person that cast the spell.
17:30.14Gnarfozanyway, it's intended that way afaik
17:30.15bindieverytime "invite" is in a sentence its between brackets and yellow oO
17:30.16ckknightdon't make a bajillion classes, is all.
17:30.24cncfanaticsI'd have one class per different theme
17:30.32GnarfozAntiarc: that'd make no sense, you just vanished :D where'd it display that ^^ (ok, in the combat log:D)
17:30.36Grineag`_, still around?
17:30.44cncfanaticsso thats 2 classes max for any normal user (I don't see why u shld have more then the default + a custom theme installed)
17:30.48krunk-So if I understand correclty, it's impossible to make a macro that checks cooldowns right?
17:30.51AntiarcGnarfoz: I'm trying to dig up a video. I know it's out there somewhere :)
17:31.00kebinusankrunk-: correct
17:31.06alcaras_q: how can i preserve my own custom layout in aguf when using wowaceupdater?  it keeps overwriting my layout.xml file and i have to edit back in my layout by hand
17:31.11GnarfozI don't even need a video, I'm playing both a warlock and a rogue :D I know what it looks like :D
17:31.17ag`_Grine: yeah
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17:31.26Grinedid you get the mail?
17:31.35krunk-kebinusan: I swear to god that some of these changes were put here solely to make warlocks have 100 more buttons ontheir screen
17:31.44ag`_Grine: yeah
17:31.51Grinegood
17:31.54ag`_:)
17:31.55Gnarfozkrunk-: nerf in disguise? :P
17:32.08kebinusanhuh, what are you trying to do that requires checking a cooldown
17:32.15krunk-Gnarfoz: it is, this patch turned me into a pointy clicky warlock. unacceptable
17:32.23alcaras_krunk-: keybind everything
17:32.24krunk-kebinusan: Trinkets
17:32.44vid`nevcairiel: you know of any issues with right click self cast not working with BT3 ?
17:32.46CIA-1703ckknight * r20592 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (7 files): FuBar_PerformanceFu - clicking on the plugin will now force a garbage collection
17:32.50alcaras_q: how can i preserve my own custom layout in aguf when using wowaceupdater?  it keeps overwriting my layout.xml file and i have to edit back in my layout by hand
17:32.52kebinusanthats not exactly a warlock specific problem
17:32.57Gnarfozi've never clicked action buttons before, and I won't start now :D even if it means I'll have to use shift-alt-ctrl+1 to cast something :D
17:33.04krunk-alcaras_: I'll get around to it, but you still need the buttons on your screen. Before I only needed one keybind/button for each spell. Now I need 3x
17:33.05nevcairielvid`: it works for me on beta, just tested it a few mins ago
17:33.06Antiarcalcaras_: Check it out from SVN.
17:33.12AntiarcThat way your updates won't get overwritten.
17:33.17nevcairielvid`: but will do some more tests
17:33.21alcaras_antiarc: ah, ok
17:33.21neeneealcaras - do you have a screenshot of your layout?
17:33.24kebinusanyou can still use trinkets in macros even if you dont check the coolodwn
17:33.24AntiarcJust svn up rather than updating with WAU
17:33.30kebinusanjust turn off error voices
17:33.53alcaras_antiarc: makes sense, i guess i have to uncheck aguf in wau
17:33.58alcaras_neenee: one sec
17:34.00Benumbedvid` disable self cast in interface options, then turn right click selfcast on in bt3
17:34.09krunk-And with 3x keybindings per spell, you quickly start moving into thte impractical realm...thus a pointy clicky solution
17:34.11neeneetest
17:34.12neeneeok
17:34.19neeneealcaras_: oki :)
17:34.25Antiarcalcaras_: WAU won't update a directory with .svn directories.
17:34.29alcaras_oh
17:34.32alcaras_excellent antiarc
17:34.46kebinusanEvery spell doesnt need a keybinding, I bind my basic stuff to keys and extended stuff I dont use every fight is sometimes clicky
17:35.05kebinusanI find its easier than trying to remember the keybindign for something I dont use very often
17:35.08alcaras_will it incorporate my changes into other modded files?
17:35.12alcaras_e.g. do a proper merge?
17:35.15vid`Benumbed: ill try it
17:35.20vid`thanks
17:35.26alcaras_e.g. if some new layout was added, would it not update my layout.xml and thus i would miss noticing?
17:35.26Benumbedit worked for me that way anyways
17:35.27Antiarcalcaras_: I think it'll just avoid updating files that have local changes.
17:35.28krunk-ok, serious now. Anyone got a link to a WoW 2.0 friendly gui addon tutorial? Walking me through making a button, onclick functions, spell bindings (I'm thinking babbelspell is what I want here)
17:35.30vid`i couldnt get it to work a few days ago but maybe im doing something wrong
17:35.35AntiarcYou'll need to manually do a merge where appropriate.
17:35.36vid`hehe
17:35.42vid`it worked right when 2.0 came out
17:35.46vid`and then stopped working a few days later
17:35.50vid`maybe its one of my other mods doing it
17:35.59cncfanaticskrunk-, making buttons urself ? if u want anything advanced I suggest u to use a Bar mod
17:36.05vid`when im not @ work ill try disabling everything but BT3 also
17:36.26Icerothuh, what addon is making every "invite" string in my chat yellow and surround it with []?
17:36.41krunk-cncfanatics: I'm trying to learn how to make addons...my main goal, my warlock asddon project is just somethign to focus on
17:36.43alcaras_neenee: here's a screenshot: http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/1492/wowscrnshot112006225508qh3.jpg
17:36.48sylvanaarag`_: did that change seem doable?
17:37.06cncfanaticskrunk-, then the best tutorial you can get is reading existing addon code imo
17:37.13alcaras_i haven't been able to get it working like that again though, updating my aguf screwed over my entire layout and i'm rebuilding it from the ground up
17:37.14cncfanaticstake a look at bartender3 for button creation
17:37.34krunk-cncfanatics: cool, I'm actually using that now that discord broked
17:37.38AntiarcIceroth: Prat
17:37.45AntiarcThere's an option to toggle that off somewhere
17:37.50cncfanaticsdiscord sucks dicks krunk-
17:38.02cncfanaticsway too inefficient in the world of ace efficiency
17:38.03sylvanaarIceroth: jsut update
17:38.07krunk-cncfanatics: I liked it, it did what I wanted without the headache of flexbar
17:38.08ag`_sylvanaar: what?
17:38.18neeneethanks alcaras :)
17:38.18Antiarckrunk-: There's a brief overview of the secure frames stuff here: http://www.wowwiki.com/SecureFramesOverview
17:38.23thaliedon't start on discord again... mikma might lose it
17:38.28AntiarcIt's not comprehensive, but it explains how to bind spells to buttons and the like.
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17:38.36sylvanaarag`_: the change i asked you about just a minute ago
17:38.47cncfanaticskrunk-, u realize I'm the flexbar author ? :)=
17:38.51restoredQuick question.. is it possible to change the class colours in Prat ?
17:39.02restoredshammies are grey in mine.
17:39.07restorednot purple
17:39.10krunk-Antiarc: excellant. For that advise, my lock will allow one rogue to live tonight that otherwise would have gotten a conflag to the face
17:39.19Grineag`_, there's no way to sort a raid group right?
17:39.21sylvanaarrestored: shammies are blue
17:39.23kergoththe class color changed, restored, afaik
17:39.26alcaras_hrm, wowace.com is _really_ slow atm
17:39.27kergothlight blue / aqua now afaik
17:39.32AntiarcI actually like warlocks now. None of them use succys anymore. >_>
17:39.34restoredack
17:39.44ckknightcncfanatics, it's funny when someone disses your mod and then shuts up quickly when revealing that you're the author
17:39.46AntiarcTheir DOTs usually kill me, but at least I can kill them first. :D
17:39.49markvyeah they just hit you with 3 dots and ride away
17:39.50krunk-cncfanatics: hehe nope, it's a good mod. I used it, but it took me a long time to set up...and then when stuff broke I was fucked
17:39.59Silviu-ckknight http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot121406193816rh1.jpg
17:39.59restoredgonna have to learn which of guildmates that are mages/shammies then :D
17:40.00kenlyricAntiarc, any plans (or ability) to have the normal bags supressed when visiting the bank/vendor?
17:40.18markvwarlocks are about as challenging to play in pvp right now as getting a glass of water from a working sink.
17:40.20cncfanaticsindeed ckknight :)
17:40.23sylvanaarrestored: yeah, it looks alot like the mage blue
17:40.27Antiarckenlyric: I think that was in 1.5.8. I probably just missed it in the port over. I'll see what I can do about it.
17:40.30krunk-cncfanatics: discord was not as powerful, but quick to reset up and such.
17:40.31Silviu-ckknight and tooltip won`t work anymore
17:40.32UrulokeIs it possible for Clique to do the res-if-dead action with clicking?
17:40.33cncfanaticsand on a side note krunk-, I agree flexbar1 kinda sucks and is too much of a headache
17:40.35Silviu-with latest update
17:40.59krunk-I didn't shut up, I explained why I went with discord.
17:41.03markvwasn't flexbar included in the original cosmos ui waaaaaay back when? not sure if it still is or isn't, but i think that's the only time i used it
17:41.04vid`i hate the new shaman color
17:41.07vid`it looks like Mage color
17:41.13vid`its like a couple shades off mage one
17:41.15vid`lol
17:41.16Urulokevid`: Agreed!
17:41.20cncfanaticskrunk-, ckknight said that before u had time to reply, assuming u were shutting up I think
17:41.22ckknightSilviu-, slow...
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17:41.23krunk-my experience (as a developer) is that feedback is generally a good thing :)
17:41.48cncfanaticsagreed :)
17:41.52CIA-1703shiftos * r20593 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (FuBar_MoneyFu.toc MoneyFuLocale-esES.lua): FuBar_MoneyFu - added spanish translation
17:41.53alcaras_err wtf... PROPFIND request filed on 'wowace/!svn/bin/20592/' no such revision 20592
17:42.01thalie...
17:42.13alcaras_i have no idea what that means
17:42.23krunk-cncfanatics: I'll read up on flexbar2 and what you've done with it. It seemed like the scripting mods like flexbar and discord have lost a lot of their power with this patch
17:42.26renchapalcaras_: which server do you use ?
17:42.35thalieworking as intended
17:42.39cncfanaticskrunk- , imo flexbar will have gained some after a good rewrite
17:42.39CIA-1703ckknight * r20594 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - :AddHint => :SetHint
17:42.48cncfanaticsits really way too inefficient
17:42.52Nickenyfikenhehe all spanish Ace lovers most love shiftos
17:42.53cncfanaticsI'm not ready at all though
17:42.57Stinkfotmweee wau did it again!!
17:43.27kergothwhat bugs me about user feedback is that so many users just drop the addon (or whatever other project) and look for something else that meets their needs, without reporting the problems / lacks to the author of hte first
17:43.29Stinkfotor cartographer is fubar on the files dir :P
17:43.30cncfanaticsactualy, I was, but I started over cuz I didn't like the way I made things work
17:43.34krunk-cncfanatics: hm, I mainly used them for conditionally appearing floaters, collapsable/expandable (in combat) grouped menus, and such. I macro'd conditional spell casting
17:43.52alcaras_renchap: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ag_UnitFrames/TBC/
17:43.52markvthe authors need to put their feedback email in the about section of their mods
17:43.56alcaras_oh
17:43.57alcaras_TBC
17:43.59alcaras_is dead now
17:44.00alcaras_gg.
17:44.02cncfanaticsflexbar can do all of that too :) and it'll be much less of a headache with fb2 (when its ready)
17:44.04krunk-...oh and bar fliping for shapechanging...my understanding is that's all impossible now
17:44.11markvi wanted to give some feedback to a couple of mods but i'm too lazy to go look them up on wowinterface.com
17:44.13cncfanaticsall is possible krunk-
17:44.15renchapalcaras_: when checkout ?
17:44.22vid`is there anyone to show a mana bar on the PerfectRaid Agunitframes layout?
17:44.25shiftosNickenyfiken: heh, I'm doing it more for me than for the rest of spaniards tho :p
17:44.28krunk-cncfanatics: you mean you can hide and show menus/buttons in combat?
17:44.30vid`like the real perfectraid used to do?
17:44.32alcaras_renchap: my bad, i needed to switch back to trunk
17:44.35cncfanaticsu can on stance changes
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17:44.44cncfanaticsand on some other stuff too, the one that blizz decided
17:45.02renchaptry svn1.wowace.com
17:45.06renchapworks
17:45.12alcaras_does anyone know if something changed in aguf layouts?
17:45.12krunk-cncfanatics: but not like "if currentTarget() == Priest; showButton(5)"
17:45.14alcaras_this used to work for me:
17:45.15alcaras_http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/1492/wowscrnshot112006225508qh3.jpg
17:45.17alcaras_but now breaks horribly
17:45.19renchaphum, no
17:45.19renchap:(
17:45.31cncfanaticsnope krunk-, only on a very limited set of events
17:45.31sylvanaarag`_: reply 619: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2441.600
17:45.32renchap*checking whats wrong with the server config*
17:45.43alcaras_renchap: i was using a TBC branch after everything had been moved to trunk
17:45.45cncfanaticsthe one I know are target being friendly or hostile and shapeshifting
17:45.48krunk-cncfanatics: yeah, that's the kinda stuff I did
17:45.51Stinkfothmm aint mcp updated for 2.0?
17:46.01renchapok
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17:46.08alcaras_ratingsbuster needs to get in the ace repository imo
17:46.32alcaras_http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/ this worked for me
17:46.46sylvanaarStinkfot: i made a version for developers/non-users to use, its in a branch of the svn
17:46.48alcaras_err no
17:46.49alcaras_it didn't
17:46.50alcaras_wtf
17:46.51alcaras_same error
17:47.12alcaras_trying svn1 now
17:47.36GrineStinkfot, mcp?
17:47.41sylvanaarStinkfot: maybe the author updated it on one of the UI sites
17:47.53Stinkfotsylvanaar i'll look it aint on the files place though :(
17:47.57Stinkfotonly the fubar plugin
17:48.08bindihmm with prat (updated) i cant see the top menu anymore on my chatframe, i mean, i can't click to combatlog or whatever anymore
17:48.23kergothbindi: its the new chattabs module, i'd say. turn it off
17:48.27HjalteHeh. Sylvanaar, are you also tired of having to change every ag_unitframes update? ;)
17:48.34bindikergoth thanks mate :)
17:48.40sylvanaarStinkfot: its not on files, because i dont want people downloading ti
17:48.51kergothbindi: methinks they should make that not default to on :)
17:48.58thalieit's not supposed to
17:48.58alcaras_svn1 worked i think
17:49.00Stinkfotsylvanaar heh oke
17:49.13bindiidd :p
17:49.14Silviu-ckknight thank u works now
17:49.18krunk-oh sweet, the AddonExtractor comes with a tutorial
17:49.22GnarfozReplaceEnchant() is protected... anyone know why? ;D
17:49.38thalieso you don't re-enchant your gear in combat :)  hehe
17:49.42Fiskeromfg
17:49.48AntiarcGnarfoz: I ran into the same thing. I couldn't refresh poisons on my weapons, but fortunately, you can right-click weapon buffs off now.
17:49.49Gnarfozerr
17:49.51GnarfozI mean...
17:49.55Gnarfozoutside of combat to
17:49.57Gnarfoz*too
17:50.00sylvanaarHjalte: i dont mind keeping my own branch, but im trying to discuss it with ag`_ so that isnt necessary
17:50.02StinkfotGnarfoz could that be a reason as why i get bla bla blocked when i try to rebuff my weapon spell?
17:50.13AntiarcStinkfot: That's it exactly
17:50.22AntiarcCancel the spell with a right-click and then reapply it
17:50.22GnarfozI tried to apply a "better" armor kit to my chest armor
17:50.27Gnarfozoverwriting +24 with +32
17:50.30sylvanaarbindi: bug reports of any kind need a version number
17:50.32alcaras_blah
17:50.33Gnarfozcouldn't get it to work
17:50.52nevcairielsuch functions only work with user input
17:50.56alcaras_what am i doing wrong: i keep getting PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bin/20594' -- No such revision 20594 when i try to check out ag_uf
17:51.02alcaras_checking out from http://svn1.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/
17:51.13renchapalcaras_: i think there is an error on the svn master
17:51.16Gnarfozhuh? what more user input does it need than me glowy-cursor-clicking the armor part I want to enchant?
17:51.19Machine_alcaras_: The mirror is out of sync
17:51.29alcaras_it happens on svn.wowace.com too
17:51.38renchapsvn.wowace is a round robin
17:51.44alcaras_so i should just wait?
17:51.44nevcairielGnarfoz: weird, you have some addon that hooks the replace enchant ? :)
17:51.50alcaras_or am trying the wrong svn
17:52.02Gnarfoznone that I know of, although I did not try with all addons disabled
17:52.09krunk-any suggestions on a warlocky sounding name for my addon?
17:52.19krunk-maybe IMBA
17:52.20GnarfozI'll quickly grep accross all my addons to see, if any addon does indeed hook that
17:52.40krunk-or EZMODE
17:53.05bindisylvanaar: not rly a bug report :) but its in 20588, chattabs module should be default off :p it pretty much freaks you out :)
17:53.19Gnarfoznope, no addon hooks it
17:53.38Dekunazomg, Cartographer is taking 394573957 years to update
17:53.45alcaras_same here Dekuna
17:53.53alcaras_using WAU?
17:53.56vid`hehe yea cart takes the longest with WAU :)
17:54.00vid`must be big
17:54.03Dekunaprobably because everyone in the world is updating it
17:54.12GnarfozDekuna: because it tries to usurp Atlas' throne on the instance map thing
17:54.17alcaras_does it include mining/herb preset nodes?
17:54.19Gnarfozand thus... is kind of fat. :P
17:54.19Dekunahaha, yeah
17:54.26alcaras_or only the ones i find myself?
17:54.30DekunaCartographer needs slimfast imo
17:54.50vid`cart is 12.4MB
17:54.52Gnarfozatlas itself includes more maps and higher quality maps, too
17:54.53vid`damn
17:54.54vid`no wonder
17:54.55kergothdisk usage is high, ram usage is not.  cart is only like 550K with all the maps and everything in game
17:55.10kergothsmaller than atlas and like a 6th the size of metamap
17:55.12Dekunaword
17:55.15ckknightvid`, those are mostly textures.
17:55.15kergothso i can confidently say, fuck atlas
17:55.17vid`no wonder it takes awhile for cart to update ;)
17:55.20vid`yea i know ck
17:55.27Gnarfozkergoth: atlas has better quality textures... why fuck atlas? :p
17:55.30vid`thats why it takes a bit to leech it though
17:55.47alcaras_does cart include mining/herb preset nodes?
17:55.48Dekunaoh, here's the problem. Cart is only 3 MB, but it's downloading at 3 kbps, LOL
17:55.48Stinkfotdoooh cartographer takes so long to dl
17:55.56Stinkfotalcaras_ no
17:55.58vid`hehe
17:56.03vid`cart takes like 10 seconds to download for me
17:56.03Gnarfozalcaras_: no it does not, like Gatherer never did ;)
17:56.07vid`i get like 1MB/sec
17:56.08alcaras_what's Cart_Mining and Cart_Herbs do?
17:56.19ckknightalcaras_, Gatherer replacement
17:56.20alcaras_Gnarfoz: it always pissed me off that gatherer never did
17:56.21Dekunavid: not from wowace/files you don't
17:56.22Gnarfozthey are the modules that show/record mining/herb notes
17:56.24kergothalcaras_: map notes for mining and herb notes, like gatherer.  they're LoD addons, loaded if you have that profession
17:56.39Stinkfothow's the gatherer import comming along btw? :P
17:56.41leech2kcart looks so sexy
17:56.42Gnarfozalcaras_: lazy? :p
17:56.44alcaras_but they don't come with all nodes prelocated? i have to go out and refarm them myself? :-/
17:56.52alcaras_Gnarfoz: no, just tired of losing all my data
17:56.53vid`Dekuna: i have no idea
17:56.58Gnarfozconvert the data
17:57.03alcaras_Gnarfoz: it's been lost
17:57.09CIA-1703solor * r20595 10Prat/modules/ChatTabs.lua: Prat: Minor bug fix with "default" individual mode, now resets properly
17:57.17Gnarfozif you've still got your Gatherer.lua, it's not
17:57.27vid`i thought everything got wiped on 2.0
17:57.28StinkfotGnarfoz how do one convert the data? :D
17:57.32vid`i lost all my mapnotes :(
17:57.34Gnarfozthere's a perl script about that converts old format Gatherer data to cartographer format
17:57.39alcaras_where
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17:57.46Gnarfozvid`: huh? why should savedvariables get wiped ;>
17:57.51Stinkfothmm pelr script.. erm can i run that localy?
17:58.00Gnarfozif you've got a perl interpreter, yes
17:58.00Stinkfotor how does it work?
17:58.05Stinkfoti dont :S
17:58.05leech2kvid`: Most my mods kept their settings.
17:58.07alcaras_and why not just include all herb/mine locations :-/
17:58.07vid`no idea, i lost all my mapnotes data though. i used alphamap w/ mapnotes addon
17:58.16alcaras_would save everyone the trouble of updating
17:58.20vid`and all my mobhealth info
17:58.32Gnarfozalcaras_: many reasons
17:58.34leech2kalcaras_: It would be a lot of maint for the developer.
17:58.35vid`most of my mods kept their settings though
17:58.37sylvanaarbindi: just got fixed thanks
17:58.46renchapalcaras_: works now
17:58.47bindithank you instead :)
17:58.50kergothnot to mention adding bloat on initial login, unless the pre done notes were a seperate LoD addon
17:59.00kergothmeh, headache
17:59.05KirkburnYeeah, what's happened to /files? It's as slow a molasses atm
17:59.06alcaras_oh well, at least this is lighterweight than gatherer
17:59.22Gnarfozalcaras_: and it doesn't show stuff on the minimap
17:59.43alcaras_renchap: retrying
17:59.43Gnarfozit'll still grow, yet
17:59.43Gnarfozblizzard doesn't like it, nodes get moved/fixed by blizzard all the time, the author would have to maintain it, it's bloaty
17:59.43KirkburnAnd, do you know, for these molasses, it's ... like ... wintery 'n' all
17:59.43alcaras_Gnarfoz: ah nodes get moved? didn't know that
17:59.52Gnarfozalcaras_: sure, never had a node inside a tree? :D
18:00.11markvunder the world mining nodes really irk me
18:00.14alcaras_renchap: still getting that error
18:00.30alcaras_Gnarfoz: yes, i've seen the same inside a tree herb nodes in hinterlands... they're still there and were still there when i reported them in beta
18:00.38Kirkburnmarkv, normally a hidden tunnel solves that =)
18:00.41alcaras_so thus i didn't know blizzard moved nodes :p
18:01.03alcaras_err renchap: new error actually
18:01.04markvkirkburn: yeah these aren't shaded to show being inside a tunnel, they're under the ground back of a bad z axis point.
18:01.05KirkburnNot as a normal matter of course, it just sometimes occurs
18:01.15markvback = because
18:01.18markvjesus i can't type today.
18:01.19Gnarfozalcaras_: try reporting them again ^^ nothing else I can say about that, but I noticed a school of fish I reported has been moved (near south shore, it was half in the ground)
18:01.23Kirkburnmarkv, ah, then you're excused ;)
18:01.25DekunaKirkburn: i'm getting about 3kbps at the moment
18:01.29Dekunasloooow
18:01.35boone_Barbanus, looks like WAU-update fixed the problem, thanks again
18:01.35alcaras_renchap: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bc/20595/trunk/Ace2/AceHook-2.1' No such revision 20595
18:01.49Dekunalike, dialup slow
18:01.50Stinkfotok i orgasmed like 10 times today now.. by watching the tbc vid :P
18:01.54nevcairielKirkburn: i got lots of blocked errors today which were blamed on ClearFont, anything known? :)
18:02.06alcaras_Cartographer's download timed out on me :p
18:02.08Grineag`_, where do you want feature requests?
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18:02.12Kirkburnnevcairiel, using UI site version or the one I linked?
18:02.17Gnarfozyou have a !ClearFont folder, it thus gets loaded first, all erros blamed on it? :D
18:02.17alcaras_System.Net.WebException: The operation has timed out. using WAU
18:02.21KirkburnIf the one I linked, get the UI site version
18:02.21kenlyrichmmm.. I have a mod showing me how many recipes an item is used in, the source it comes from, and how many I have in bank/bags... but I can't figure out which one, since I diszabled characterInfo and kc_items
18:02.23nevcairielKirkburn: er, wowi
18:02.27nevcairieli think
18:02.27leech2kI just use mapwow.com to get an initial path down then they get loaded into cart :-)
18:02.38KirkburnGnarfoz, no I don't, I have a "ClearFont" folder now :)
18:02.38alcaras_leech2k: probably the best idea
18:02.45alcaras_they need to update mapwow.com with outland herb/mining locs
18:02.48kergothkenlyric: mendeleev is likely showing most of that, if you have it
18:02.50GnarfozKirkburn: not you, him :p
18:02.51leech2kya
18:02.52Antiarckenlyric: The how many in bank/bags is Sanity. There's an option to turn that off.
18:02.54Kirkburnnevcairiel, there were blocked errors with raids for the normal version
18:03.08AntiarcThe recipe info is Tradeskill[something]
18:03.09leech2kkk an aguf pros here?
18:03.09alcaras_and outland herbs
18:03.12nevcairielnot sure if i updated my beta copy as well
18:03.12Kirkburnuh, take that back
18:03.13Barbanusboone_, no problem
18:03.17DekunaIs there some other mirror site that has Cartographer on it so i can actually finish this update?
18:03.21kenlyricoh, tradeskill info shows all that? cool.
18:03.37KirkburnThey occured for the version before I uploaded to the UI sites. nevcairiel, just dl from WoWI again :)
18:03.51alcaras_sigh
18:03.53sylvanaarHjalte: i guess ag`_ is busy or something
18:04.04alcaras_what does this mean: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bin/20595'
18:04.06leech2khm m
18:04.28thalieit means a mirror is out of sync
18:04.32thaliegenerally
18:04.41alcaras_how do i fix it? or what can do to fix it?
18:04.44thalieyou don't
18:04.46HjalteSylvanaar: I hope you convince him. I'm not very programmer-ish, so i just go and change the or to an and when i update. And i update often.
18:04.47uszyou can wait
18:04.53alcaras_Dekuna: http://www.wowace.com/files/Cartographer/Cartographer-r20505.zip try there
18:05.00alcaras_manual update ftl
18:05.07Dekunaalcaras_: 3 kbps
18:05.09Dekunatoo slow
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18:05.15sylvanaarHjalte: thats what i am doing right now also
18:05.21alcaras_at least it won't timeout as WAU does
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18:05.39KirkburnHow about you all stop stressing the system for a few mins? =)
18:05.46sylvanaarwhats the difference between Perl Unit frames and agUF?
18:05.51Stinkfothow about getting a better system? ;P
18:05.56Kirkburnsylvanaar, the name?
18:05.57thalieperl is not ace2
18:06.02alcaras_perl has party targets and 2d portraits, aguf doesn't
18:06.05Funkeh`hey all
18:06.13alcaras_any plans on cartographer notes appearing on the minimap?
18:06.17sylvanaarlink?
18:06.23leech2kone thing I dont like about aguf and was hoping I could adjust
18:06.37leech2kit doesnt select the target until u click and release
18:06.46leech2kinstead of just click
18:06.54leech2kso if u drag a little it doesnt select
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18:07.53Teomyrdoes anyone know if/when SpellStatusLib is going to be updated? :/
18:08.00kergothTeomyr: doesnt need to be
18:08.37sylvanaarI see Nymbia's perl unit frames and x-perl unit frames
18:08.42sylvanaarwhich is which
18:09.12Teomyrkergoth: doesn't it? the most recent version is throwing hook errors at me because it tries to hook protected functions
18:09.13alcaras_two different branches of perl
18:09.19alcaras_sylvanaar: i'd use nymbia
18:09.26alcaras_but i prefer aguf b/c it allows custom layouts
18:09.43alcaras_wtb location of gatherer->cartographer conversion lua
18:09.47Funkeh`i saw the mas spanish updates today
18:09.47alcaras_err perl script, not lua
18:09.53Funkeh`nice work shiftos
18:09.59kergothTeomyr: whatever addon is using it should be updated.  2.0 provides api functions for the stuff spellstatuslib provided.
18:10.10kergothTeomyr: so again, doesnt need to be :P
18:10.40Dekuna~kergoth
18:10.41purlextra, extra, read all about it, kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for Openedhand Ltd (o-hand.com), remotely, from AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSlib.  Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware.
18:10.53Teomyrkergoth: uh, i must have totally missed that part :D
18:11.17sylvanaaralcaras_: using aguf means i have to code stuff myself
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18:11.54Barbanusis the author of ocb here?
18:12.03alcaras_sylvanaar: i'll be happy when aguf supports 2d portraits and partytargets
18:12.19alcaras_sylvanaar: i haven't seen a perl unitframes that has partytargets and enemycastbar working in 2.0
18:12.19XuerianHm..... I need some textures, now...
18:12.26XuerianWhere's Mikk when you need him.
18:12.32alcaras_and mEnemyCastBar gives me enemycastbar for aguf
18:12.35kergoth~botsnack
18:12.35purlkergoth: thanks
18:12.40alcaras_and since enemycastbar is more important than partytargets, i use aguf atm
18:12.42kergothi need to update that factoid
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18:13.27Benumbedspeaking of mEnemycastbar, anyone else notice that sometimes when party is hidden (in raids) the castbar bleeds thru and shows
18:13.29Barbanus~seen otravi
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18:13.43Toadkillerjust use oRa for the tank targets?
18:13.43kergothpurl: no, kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for CSC, Inc. in Phoenix, AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib.  Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass.  Newbies and the clueless beware.  Email at clarson@kergoth.com.
18:13.45purlkergoth: okay
18:13.45Funkeh`erm could you not turn off chattabs by default in prat? :P
18:13.52hasteBarbanus: Hello!
18:13.55sylvanaaralcaras_: i just need party pets and accessable unit menu's + a non-commandline confuration option
18:14.02sylvanaarFunkeh`: what
18:14.04thaliebarnabus - otravi=haste
18:14.08Funkeh`i think default off would make more sense
18:14.12Barbanusahh
18:14.16Silviu-Sole are u around ? :)
18:14.17thalie~haste
18:14.19purlrevered as a god in some countries.
18:14.19Dekuna~seen haste
18:14.24purlhaste is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 32s, last said: 'Barbanus: Hello!'.
18:14.27hasteBLIND!
18:14.31Funkeh`the chattabs are gone from my chatbox
18:14.35Silviu-~seen Sole
18:14.37purlsole <n=no@203-118-186-231.bliink.ihug.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 9m 37s ago, saying: 'anyway gnite guys'.
18:14.37sylvanaarFunkeh`: it is
18:14.40Kemayovhaarr: Thanks for fixing that directory.  I never noticed that it had been checked in misspelt.  Shows how much I pay attention to localization, eh... :)
18:14.50Funkeh`i just logged on and their gone so it can't be
18:14.55Barbanushaste, not sure if you knew, if you get interrupted when casting a spell, ocb still continues thinking its casting (the bar continues)
18:14.57sylvanaar<CIA-17> solor * r20595 Prat/modules/ChatTabs.lua: Prat: Minor bug fix with "default" individual mode, now resets properly
18:14.59Silviu-~seen bhattu
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18:15.11hasteBarbanus: yes, that's the only bug left :)
18:15.18Barbanushaste, ahhh cool :)
18:15.19Funkeh`ok
18:15.25Barbanushaste, not a big one
18:15.28Dekunahaste: oSkin :(
18:15.35thalie~oskin
18:15.38MikmaoForeskin
18:15.42Barbanusrofl
18:15.44alcaras_Toadkiller: oRA tank targets -- would that work for my party in an 5v5 arena battle?
18:15.45hasteBarbanus: I don't play a caster myself, so most of the channeling code is drycoded, and some of the casting
18:15.55DekunaoRly
18:16.23Toadkilleralcarus: no idea, i just started using oRa + Grid for unit frames
18:16.27shiftosFunkeh`: thanks :)
18:16.32Barbanushaste, yea, it doesnt really make much difference, only time I have noticed it really is when healing in pvp, and wondering why my heal didnt go off, and then finding out I got earthshocked (DIRTY SHAMANS!!)
18:16.34thalie~skinner
18:16.36purlskinner is the mod which completely ruined Haste's perfectly good and efficient OSkin.
18:16.40Dekunalol
18:16.43sylvanaari cant adapt to grid
18:16.46thalieheh
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18:17.02sylvanaarim old
18:17.25sylvanaarFunkeh`: just toggle the module on and off
18:17.30hasteBarbanus: well, if you can supply me how the events fire when you get silenced that would help a lot :)
18:17.44ToadkillerMan grid is freaking awesome
18:17.50Barbanushmmm, I'll do that when I get home tonight
18:17.52Dekunagrid FTW
18:18.13ToadkillerIt does need some tweaking to get it into good shape tho
18:18.21sylvanaari like grid too, i just cant adjust to it
18:18.39BarbanusI like sRaidFrames, since its a nice transition from when I used to use ctraid
18:18.45BarbanusIts what I'm used to :P
18:19.00sylvanaarIm using agUF for party and raid frames
18:19.01thaliei like grid because i can see the screen
18:19.02thalielol
18:19.09ToadkillerAll it is missing is some buff indicators.  But hacking it + the sidegrid mod is almost there
18:19.17Barbanusthalie, you a healer?
18:19.21thalieyep, priest
18:19.37Barbanusthalie, do you have a screenshot of your UI?
18:19.41thalienot on hand, no
18:19.51sylvanaarbut there are issues with aguf and i either have to make my own branch to fix them or find another mod
18:19.54leech2komg svn sucks again
18:19.59todd[11:15:59] <shiftos> Todd: idd
18:20.00toddidd?
18:20.02Aileen_I haven't adjusted to anything yet (played hunter for 2+ years as my main and my alt, a druid, has been feral and now balance) so I'm hoping when it comes time to lern2heal with the druid, since I have no previous experience, it will be easy to adjust to Grid :)
18:20.09BarbanusAnyone have a screenshot of grid with a full healer raid type UI?
18:20.14shiftostodd: indeed
18:20.39kenlyricI had one with the RDX grid... looks exactly the same, but I
18:20.43kenlyric'm not finding it
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18:20.49sylvanaari cant see the screen with grid if its big enough for me to see the information i want
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18:21.03leech2kBarbanus: I might let me check
18:21.05kenlyricthe rdx grid has a mole textures in it.
18:21.07Toadkilleri can screen mine just tell me how to post it.  er nm im not in a raid raight now
18:21.08Barbanusleech2k, thanks :)
18:21.10thaliescale it then sylv
18:21.17chrisaXuerian: Does that latest changelog mean the blocked actions are gone? :)
18:21.20kergothToadkiller: there is a gridstatusmissingbuffs, if thats what you mean
18:21.32Xuerianchrisa: For most everyone
18:21.33sylvanaarthalie: lol then i cant see the information
18:21.39Toadkilleroh man ima dl that right now
18:21.49chrisaXuerian: hurray, thanks
18:22.03thalie~emulate xuerian
18:22.05purlACTION cries.
18:22.18thaliejeez, purl's got you pegged, x
18:22.28XuerianT.T
18:22.44todddoes fubar_honorfu work with the new honor system?
18:22.44kergoth~remulate
18:22.45purlaww, my bees...
18:22.45ToadkillerKergoth: not seeing it.  is it a mod?  Or something built in?
18:23.02sylvanaari kinda want to do a fubar for SSPVP
18:23.18kergothToadkiller: seperate addon.  http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6075-GridStatusMissingBuffs.html
18:23.37sylvanaari still havent found a replacement for that PVP tool
18:23.48StavmarTOadkiller: When using autobar and i run out of food or water and teh button becomes blank becuase I have no items i get an error. I sthis something you have seen?
18:23.52Tullerhrm, if my theory is correct, the only remaining people with stance issues are those who don't know the menu :)
18:24.03chrisaLast time I grinded honor I used Asmo, I have no idea what all the cool kids are using these days
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18:27.10vid`hey can someone whip up a mod real quick to put the minimap icon from guildeventmanager onto Fubar and hide the minimap icon? :)
18:27.18leech2kgrid ss http://www.deathgrab.com/~leech/pics/gui0.jpg
18:27.32leech2kat loatheb so lots of other crap on the screen too
18:27.46chrisaanother grid ss http://www.nullcode.org/~chris/wow/grid.jpg
18:28.35Barbanusthanks leech
18:28.59thalieleech - in that layout do you actually use it??
18:29.01thaliecurious
18:29.10Barbanusleech, you need elkbb :P
18:29.11leech2kI dont actually use grid much
18:29.23leech2khmm ss?
18:29.24leech2klol
18:29.34Barbanusleech so you have 2 raid frames? grid and aguf?
18:29.34Aileen_how do you see anything o.O
18:29.38leech2kI just dispell party and let pallies cover raid :-)
18:29.49chrisaI've used elkbb and the problem I always had was that I couldn't find a good place to put it
18:29.51thalieaileen: that's normal for priests
18:29.53Dekunazomf, cartographer finished
18:29.55MikmaNOEEEEEES a grid
18:30.03Stinkfotwoohoo 48 minutes to dl cartographer :S
18:30.03leech2kBarbanus: ya I hope to drop grid sometime though
18:30.04chrisaand I don't need an insane amount of screen space giving to just buffs
18:30.05thalie~emulate mikma
18:30.07purlI love copypaste
18:30.15Barbanuschrisa, heh, I moved my minimap to the top left, and put it in the top right
18:30.24leech2kis elkbb the huge buff bar thing?
18:30.30cncfanaticsdoes AceAddon trigger OnDisable() at player logout too ? anyone knows ?
18:30.33chrisaMy screenshot is a bad example, my ui looks nothing like that now
18:30.34Aileen_I need a buff mod that actually shows me all my buffs, but EBB was too much space
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18:30.43chrisaI now use bindpad and cooldowntimerbars instead of actionbars
18:30.45kenlyricelkbb makes your own buffs smaller.
18:31.07chrisaOn Sapphiron and Kel I break 16 buffs easily, can Elk show beyond the 16?
18:31.09kenlyricthe new CT buff mod is a complete ripoff of it.
18:31.18thalienow now
18:31.19vid`i like buffalo
18:31.23vid`http://www.saecula.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=114
18:31.25Stinkfotchrisa buffalo ÅÅ
18:31.27Stinkfot^^ even
18:31.30kenlyricwell, it probably can now, since buffs go beyond 15.
18:31.32thaliebuffalo might be a good option for leech
18:31.34kenlyric16
18:31.43Stinkfotbuffalo like 40 buffs :D
18:31.44vid`my UI is a mess atm t ho
18:31.46Elkanochrisa, EBB shows as many as it can get data about
18:31.57vid`i need perfectraid
18:31.58vid`!
18:32.00leech2kas soon as they fix selfcast I drop an entire row of buttons I cant wait
18:32.03chrisavid`: Looks like it resized them and added timers?
18:32.04sylvanaar~seen ckknight
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18:32.18vid`aguf takes up too much space
18:32.19Stinkfotvid` get grid! :D
18:32.19Aileen_my Grid:  http://static.flickr.com/117/309691207_6bd688f923_o.jpg
18:32.19Elkanoso if the API would return data for 100 buffs it would show 100
18:32.19UrulokeGrid ftw ;)
18:32.19vid`i cant get into grid
18:32.19thalie~point ckknight
18:32.20purlACTION points at ckknight with snickers and giggles
18:32.22kenlyricwhich row of buttons do you drop?
18:32.24Rophyanyone know a mod which shows quest level on quest log window and is untaint? ct_core taints Bz UI.
18:32.25chrisaI started using grid for decursing with clique, I'm pretty fond of it
18:32.27sylvanaarckknight: ping
18:32.32Stinkfotvid` no reason to get into grid..install and use
18:32.33kergothElkano: hows elkbuffbars coming? looks promising :)
18:33.05vid`i use ag_uf with clique
18:33.07chrisaThe day I realized I don't care about the health of my raidmembers was a good day
18:33.08ckknightsylvanaar, not here, busy
18:33.08vid`i dunno i just dont like look of gtid
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18:33.10vid`grid*
18:33.11Elkanowell, got do get back to coding ;) wrote ItemListFu and tweaked FactionsFu meanwhile ;)
18:33.13vid`i like perfectraid
18:33.15Stinkfotvid` ur ui makes me wanna barf :P
18:33.18kenlyricI'' eventually need to get a click-casting mod, but that'll wait until I raid again.
18:33.18sylvanaarckknight: ok me too
18:33.26vid`yea i know
18:33.26Dekuna~run
18:33.28purlACTION runs around in circles screaming "My pants are blue!!!"
18:33.29thalieperfectraid is too small for healers to click... okay, it's too small for ME to click
18:33.31chrisaGrid is a godsend for fights like Sapphiron where decursing out of group for whoever is nearby is important
18:33.32vid`my raidframes take up too much space
18:33.38vid`:)
18:33.42vid`and i run such a low res
18:33.47vid`so my UI looks bloated
18:33.48vid`hehe
18:33.54vid`i play in a window
18:33.55chrisaI don't think your iceblock/icebarrier buttons need to be that huge
18:33.55cncfanaticsckknight, ping ?
18:34.23sylvanaari use aguf + clique because i have always used something like that (well for almost a year and a half)
18:34.32BarbanusAileen_, what do you use to add the dark area at the bottom?
18:34.38chrisaLets discuss you having the AV trinket equipped in MC :)
18:34.41phyberRophy: SimpleCombatLog is broken.  It's no longer suppressing the regular CombatLog.
18:34.42Aileen_skinner
18:34.47ckknightcncfanatics, no.
18:34.56Stinkfotppl using bars to click need to l2p ;P except for clique + grid that is ;P
18:35.00Rophyit is not broken, I removed suppressing of default logs.
18:35.02chrisaphyber: Is this as of a recent commit? Mine works fine
18:35.04cncfanaticsanything triggered at player logout, reload UI, etc ?
18:35.05vid`yea im gonna get rid of iceblock/ice barrier
18:35.14vid`cause i just use hotkeys
18:35.17thalieaileen that looks a lot like my ui :)
18:35.20vid`i had that their when i clicked it :P
18:35.23vid`there*
18:35.31phyberRophy: oh? Why? :/
18:35.41Stinkfotgah i need a darn totemui!!! tooo many buttons
18:35.46Rophybecause I still can't figure out a way to do that without tainting Blizzard UI.
18:35.48chrisaMy ice barrier is a /castsquence reset=24 Ice Barrier, Mana Shield, Mana Shield bind, mainly for arenas
18:35.57Silviu-~seen devla
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18:36.05Funkeh`ive found it
18:36.08sylvanaarhonestly, i need to see bars, names etc
18:36.12kergothStinkfot: callofelements works well
18:36.13vid`yea same
18:36.16vid`i dont like how grid cuts off name
18:36.26thaliei could care less about names
18:36.26Funkeh`ive been disabling most of my addons and its definately not rosterlib causing the big kbps increase
18:36.26sylvanaarmaybe if grid werent squares
18:36.28thalieeveryone needs heals
18:36.28chrisaHonestly, why do you need the whole name?
18:36.29Stinkfotwhy u need to know the name of someone?
18:36.38vid`shrug grid is good for some people
18:36.40Aileen_heh I click buttons all the time... I can only really do 1-6 with keybindings :)
18:36.40Funkeh`its grid thats causing the kbps increase
18:36.42kenlyricit wouldn't be much of a grid if it was trapezoids
18:36.43StavmarAileen_: what tank boxes are you using there?
18:36.45chrisaIf my raid has someone named Arioch I think it's pretty obvious that "Ario" is him
18:36.55leech2kyeah I dont like grid to much
18:36.55vid`exactly grid is geared towards people wh o like that kind of thing
18:36.56phyberRophy: what was it tainting?  it was working fine yesterday. :/
18:36.59sylvanaari said squares
18:37.05vid`im not mocking it, i think grid is really neat
18:37.09sylvanaartrapezoids are fine
18:37.15vid`just not for me, ill use ag_Uf until perfectraid is done :)
18:37.22Funkeh`some kind of memory leak in grid or something?
18:37.24Aileen_that screenshot is a few weeks old, that was the pre-2.0 oRA2 MT windows
18:37.24chrisaMy only complaint with grid is that it doesn't resize to the number of groups you have
18:37.28kenlyricgrid is great if you're a paladin, druid, or mage and it's job to remove debuffs.
18:37.31thaliei wonder if the new praid is going to use ace... probably not
18:37.33sylvanaarrectangles would be ideal
18:37.34chrisaIt seems to stay 8 parties wide even if you're in a raid with 2 parties
18:37.34Dekunavid: sRaidFrames
18:37.38sylvanaarfor me
18:37.38vid`new praid is not ace
18:37.39Rophyphyber: I was hooking ChatFrame_OnEvent to suppress the combatlog, and it does taint Blizzard UI (pet bar wont show up in combat).
18:37.43vid`sraidframes takes up too much space
18:37.46Stavmarcan you use oRA2 MT windows without have oRA
18:37.50vid`for my UI layout
18:37.56Aileen_I miss the numbers next to the MT frames in the latest oRA2
18:37.59Dekunavid: new monitor? haha
18:38.09vid`yea i need to get a 20" lcd
18:38.11vid`i only got a 19
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18:38.14Dekuna:(
18:38.20vid`and i play windowed 1024x768
18:38.20sylvanaarRophy: are you sure, because that taint happens with no addons running
18:38.25thaliemorning cheers
18:38.29cheersmornin' :)
18:38.29Dekunavid: yeah, it's more about the resolution
18:38.33leech2kI use dueal 19"
18:38.34phyberRophy: ahh. lame :/
18:38.35Stavmardoes anyone have a suggestion for MT windows that sync with CTRa? Is main assist still working?
18:38.36cncfanaticsRophy, pet bar doesn't EVER show up in combat
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18:38.37UrulokeI got a 20.1" widescreen lcd :D
18:38.39cncfanaticseven without addons
18:38.41leech2k1280x1024 windowed mode
18:38.41cncfanaticsits a blizz bug
18:38.43Dekunai play at 1680x1050
18:38.45vid`yea im gonna get a 20.1" wide
18:38.47cheersStavmar: oRA2
18:38.48vid`so i can run 1680
18:38.50UrulokePlaying at 1680x1050
18:38.51Rophysylvanaar: ya, removed the hook on ChatFrame_OnEvent and pet bar shows.
18:38.51leech2kI would prefer to play a higher rez
18:39.02vid`my UI would look clean enough @ 1680
18:39.04vid`but @ 1024
18:39.04RophyWhen I say something, I did try it.
18:39.07vid`it looks like a clusterfuck
18:39.12vid`hehe
18:39.12Dekunalol, agreed
18:39.14markvi couldn't go back to 1024 for wow
18:39.27Dekunahonestly, the FPS hit doesn't bother me
18:39.27Stavmarcheers: oRA2 will sunch with CTRA tanks windows also
18:39.28leech2k1280 is min imo
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18:39.30vid`yea i may start to play fullscreen 1280
18:39.35vid`and just alt tab out when i need
18:39.36Stavmarsynch*
18:39.36sylvanaarRophy: it always shows after a a reloadui
18:39.38cheersStavmar: eh?
18:39.39markvi'm loving 1680 a lot
18:39.42cheersStavmar: ya
18:39.49vid`or i could just buy a 20.1" wide after xmas
18:39.51E-RaZoR``does "finderreminder" still work with 2.0?
18:39.57Urulokemarkv: Same!
18:39.59vid`and run multimon
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18:40.01markvvid: what are you using for a monitor right now?
18:40.03sylvanaarRophy: you have to go in and out of combat a few times to taint it
18:40.05Rophysylvanaar: not when I was hooking ChatFrame_OnEvent. What I mean is "summon a pet during combat"
18:40.08vid`samsung 940b
18:40.18markvyou'd probably ike the upgrade then
18:40.26markvgoing WS really is a huge improvement from 4:3
18:40.29vid`yea
18:40.30E-RaZoR``or is there some decent replacement for it (maybe an addon that doesn't always remind you to turn on herbalism after dying in a battleground :D)
18:40.35markvi used to play on a 21" crt
18:40.36Sun\Nethersylvanaar : /prat playernames, there is a prb with the display of the linkinvite option, i think it is replacing the invite with itself (kinda like a loop)
18:40.44vid`well my computer also is like my multimedia center
18:40.44markvthen i got this 21" WS and i'm like wow, huge difference
18:40.46vid`i watch tv/movies on it
18:40.49vid`:)
18:40.54vid`cause my tb sucks
18:40.55Rophysylvanaar: reloadui, starts the combat with no pet, then summons pet. Pet bar shows up only when I'm not hooking ChatFrame_OnEvent.
18:40.55kenlyricE-RaZoR``:  I've been looking up and down for a mod like that :)
18:40.55vid`tv*
18:41.09markvyeah i need to pick up a 2nd lcd so i can FS wow again and watch moves on the 2nd monitor
18:41.11kenlyricbetween turning on herbalism and casting inner fire, I miss autobuff in a bad, bad way.
18:41.15sylvanaarRophy: i had the same problem with mind control
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18:41.36E-RaZoR``finderreminder used to work, haven't tested it with 2.0 but it hasn't been updated :(
18:41.43E-RaZoR``and it was kinda annoying in bg
18:42.00sylvanaarRophy: but im sure you are right
18:42.01CIA-1703cncfanatics * r20596 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2.toc: FlexBar2: Set main coding layout
18:42.10vid`plus i have an x-fi using optical out to logitech z5500's with DTS
18:42.14E-RaZoR``i wondere why there is no better addon for that .. i don't wanna know howmany herbs i missed cause i forgot to turn on "find herbs"
18:42.17vid`so it sounds better than my home theater
18:42.29sylvanaarRophy: my case must be different
18:42.49markvi was looking at the 5500s then i found the 5300es on sale for $130 cdn
18:42.51Rophysylvanaar: anyway I try my best to avoid hooking Blizzard functions directly until someone has a better solution to this whole tainting problem :\
18:43.00markvand i was like damn i can't pass that deal up
18:43.11Dekunaholy shit, by the time this stuff finishes updating i'm going to have to run WAU to catch all the new updates... and the cycle continues
18:43.14sylvanaarRophy: me too, but its hard to avoid sometimes
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18:43.28sylvanaarDekuna: use the mirror
18:43.38Dekunasylvanaar: omg where
18:43.59Rophysylvanaar: agree, but at least I let my mods not be the one tainting.
18:44.20sylvanaarhttp://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/
18:44.30Dekunathanks a ton
18:44.31sylvanaaryou can set WAU to use that
18:44.32CIA-1703cncfanatics * r20597 10FlexBar2/ (4 files): FlexBar2: Set main coding layout
18:44.58sylvanaarRophy: yeah, i try to use SecureHook whenever possible myself
18:45.03Dekunasylvanaar: how fast does the mirror get updated?
18:45.13sylvanaarmaybe, hourly
18:45.19Dekunaokay, thanks
18:45.34sylvanaarSun\Nether: ill look
18:45.42Sun\Netherk
18:45.57BarbanusHere's my UI, I wanna make some tweaks to it yet .. anyone have any suggestions? :) http://wow.tecnobrat.com/images/raidui20061214.jpg
18:46.06sylvanaarSun\Nether: the person who requested it didnt stick around to help test
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18:46.12cheersneeds more cowbell?
18:46.12Sun\Netheri'm here to test
18:46.16Sun\Netherif u need
18:46.22sylvanaarSun\Nether: awesome
18:46.24cheersholy cwo, that's a lot of stuff on thescreen Barbanus
18:46.29Sun\Netherjust ding me
18:46.38Barbanuscheers, yea :(
18:46.47cheersBarbanus: what's the class icons w/ the 0's next to them?
18:46.47UrulokeBarbanus: How can you live with all that stuff on screen?!
18:47.02Barbanuscheers, thats pallypower
18:47.10Sun\Netherugly ui :)
18:47.13Sun\Nethercan't see shit
18:47.15Rophysylvanaar: securehook doesn't work on suppressing the blizzard combatlog :\   I have found another Blizzard function to hook, which the pet bar does show up after hooking, but still I'm so scared to hook anything directly :X
18:47.20CIA-1703neriak * r20598 10Fence/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fence: - fixed UnHook typos (IMANOOB)
18:47.27BarbanusSun\Nether, hense why I asked what I did :P
18:47.31sylvanaarRophy: i hook addmessage
18:47.44BarbanusUruloke, I can't, lol
18:47.51cheersBarbanus: is that 2 chat windows? seems like you could squeeze some space outta tht section
18:47.54nevcairielfor anything chat related, hook ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler
18:47.55UrulokeBarbanus: Thought as much :P
18:47.58nevcairielits safe to hook.
18:48.05cheersand your Palipower is taking a HUGE amt of room w/ no (obviously) useful info
18:48.05E-RaZoR``Baraius: get a nicer fubar texture
18:48.19Barbanuscheers, yea, its two separate ones
18:48.24Rophysylvanaar: and how do you confirm that it doesn't make anything fail to work?
18:48.33E-RaZoR``i always ask myself why fubar has had that fugly texture for ages
18:48.55cheersBarbanus: can you combine them, or tab them?
18:48.58Barbanuscheers, its loot uptop, and chat down at the bottom .. not sure why I have always done that tho
18:49.08sylvanaarRophy: i read the code to see where i was in teh execution path
18:49.17cheersBarbanus: put loot in it's own tab... you don't need to see that while you raid
18:49.30nevcairielRophy: hook ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler, it was implemented to be hooked by addons, afaik
18:49.31Barbanusthat leads me to a question, does anyone know of a good mod that allows you to have chat tabs like irc, where it notifies you on messages?
18:49.34cheersBarbanus: then you can move your parties into 2 columns of 4, possibly, nad get a lot of space on the left ;)
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18:49.52Rophysylvanaar: from the Blizzard code, I don't see ChatFrame_OnEvent has anything to do with the pet bar?
18:49.58Barbanuscheers, good suggestion
18:50.00BarbanusI'll try it
18:50.14Sun\NetherBarbanus : clean ui -> http://sunofwisdom.net/sun_ui.jpg
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18:50.18Rophynevcairiel: yes, that's what 'the other blizzard function' I mentioned, how do you know it was implemented to be hooked by addons?
18:50.19cheersBarbanus: those're the CT frames, ya?
18:50.28BarbanusE-RaZoR``, any suggestion on a texture?
18:50.35Barbanuscheers, its sRaidFrames
18:50.38cheersah
18:50.43cheersnot familiar w/ that one
18:50.59nevcairielRophy: i think it was stated in some post by slouken, because we couldnt get the simplest chat stuff to work
18:50.59E-RaZoR``i pretty much stole the titanpanel texture
18:51.01sylvanaarRophy: it doesnt - the pet bar thing is a blizz bug afaik, but yours may be different like i said
18:51.10nevcairielRophy: i will try to find it again
18:51.25BarbanusSun\Nether: "The connection has timed out"
18:51.37E-RaZoR``although i recently switched to just making the fubar panel transparent and using skinner's topframe for the background
18:51.38Sun\Netherit works ;)
18:52.06BarbanusSun\Nether, you dont count! you are a rogue :( :P
18:52.07Rophynevcairiel: that would be helpful. But still I am hoping to figure out a way to know if hooking a function is safe or not, other than having to rely on the blue post or trial an error:\
18:52.20Barbanusmy rogues UI is super clean .. lol
18:52.29cheersrogues can do that
18:52.33cheers<PROTECTED>
18:52.57cheersBarbanus: here's what I was doin' before I found oRA & ditched ctmod
18:52.58cheershttp://bob.kicks-ass.org/files/pictures/wow/noth_ui.jpg
18:53.06BarbanusWell, henge is no longer on my screen, its broken ... so its gone
18:53.11nevcairielRophy: from looking at the messageventhandler function, it doesnt seem to actually call anything that would need to be secure anymore
18:53.15Sun\NetherBarbanus i'm a warlock :p
18:53.23nevcairielbleh, text search in blizz forums is disabled
18:53.26Sun\Netheri was on my rogue that's all, but it's the same ui
18:53.27kenlyricwhat do rogues need? 1 button, for lazyrogue? ;)
18:53.30CIA-1703shiftos * r20599 10FuBar_SpeedFu/ (FuBar_SpeedFu.toc SpeedFuLocals.lua): FuBar_SpeedFu - added spanish translation
18:53.53Barbanuscheers, what raid frames are those? aduf?
18:53.57Barbanusaguf*
18:53.58cheersyeah
18:54.32Rophynevcairiel: from my understanding, ChatFrame_OnEvent calls that MessageEventHandler, and so in theory, if some Blizzard code actually calls ChatFrame_OnEvent, it ends up calling MessageEventHandler, and thus taints the execution path?
18:54.34cheersI can't bleieve i don't have anything more recent thn that...
18:55.00Barbanushaha
18:55.58Silviu-Sun\Nether http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot121406205243nr8.jpg cleanui :P
18:56.03sylvanaarRophy: they are missing a securecall
18:56.11cheersnope, doesn't look like I've snagged one in awhile
18:56.12Sun\Nethernot bad
18:56.19Sun\Netherbut i like default playerframe :)
18:56.28Silviu-;)
18:56.29Dekunaugh
18:56.31GrineoRA2 assist keybindings got pwned by blizzard?
18:56.36Rophybut from MessageEventHandler being placed as the last function in ChatFrame_OnEvent, I can see that it is likely to be 'designed for hooking'
18:56.39Dekunai can't stand default anything, hehe
18:56.44Rophybut I can't be so sure, unless I see that blue post :p
18:57.06Rophytext searching in wow forum is disabled :\
18:57.09BarbanusSilviu-, where are your raid frames?
18:57.26Silviu-For what ? ;)
18:57.29thaliehe's a shadow priest
18:57.30Silviu-I`m shadow ^^
18:57.32thalie:)
18:57.36Barbanusblah :P
18:57.39Silviu-With this char is my gf`s char
18:57.39thalielove it
18:57.43thaliei'm going shadow
18:57.48Silviu-Usually i play my warlock
18:57.48Barbanusdps chars have it easy for clean UIs :P
18:57.54Dekuna~thalie
18:57.56purlACTION casts psychic scream.  the channel flees in terror.
18:58.01Josh_Borkeas a healer, my ui is clean :-)
18:58.03Silviu-But setup is the sa,e
18:58.10Silviu-same*
18:58.10BarbanusJosh_Borke, post?
18:58.15Josh_Borkeno recent screenshots
18:58.25BarbanusI'm stealing UI ideas :P
18:58.28sylvanaarhooking addmessage will taint the chatframe, but that doesnt matter
18:58.31vid`i dont mind having a lot of info in the UI
18:58.39vid`im a big fan of lots of flashy stuff
18:58.40Josh_Borkesylvanaar: tainting the chat frame prevents macros
18:58.43vid`but i need a big res
18:58.48vid`to shove it all off to side :P
18:58.53sylvanaarJosh_Borke: no it doesnt
18:58.56Barbanusthe only problem I have .. is all of the "dancing" in Naxx, a cluttered UI sucks
18:58.56Josh_Borkeyou sure?
18:58.58Silviu-Something strange about latest simplecombatlog it shows both messages
18:59.01markvmy raidframes are all disgusting right now on my ui because i'm too lazy to set them up until i perfectraid update comes out.
18:59.04Rophysylvanaar: I hope they'll add better support for hooking, but for now I try to avoid hooking anything unless it's officially stated by Blizzard that it is safe to hook a certain function.
18:59.07vid`i know i run too much tho
18:59.11phyberSilviu-: read up, that's what all of this is about
18:59.11BarbanusI noticed it on Haegan and Thaddius
18:59.21vid`cause i have 60kib/s on raids
18:59.22Rophysylvanaar: since I don't know a way to test, other than the 'call pet in combat' method :\
18:59.25E-RaZoR``http://www.abload.de/img/ui6u97.jpg my current ui .. non-raiding, though ;)
18:59.25Silviu-And plus that devla modified toc a little wrong have 2 copyes of libs in ?libs folder and in Simplecombatlog folder :>
18:59.37vid`and my mem climbs up to 90MB in raids
18:59.39sylvanaarJosh_Borke: the edit box is really a separate frame
18:59.43vid`and thats with all ace mods
18:59.47Silviu-phyber hmm yes ?
18:59.48Aileen_I used to use praid but I got tired of not being able to read the fonts (they would go all wacky after a while)
18:59.49vid`i run maybe 3 non ace mods :)
18:59.49AntiarcI have a question!
18:59.53Silviu-phyber it should be so ?
18:59.58AntiarcI am working on a Python script the delete extraneous externals
19:00.10markvjesus vid
19:00.13AntiarcWould anyone care to test it for me against a live WoW addon setup? It doesn't delete anything at the moment.
19:00.16markvwhat mods are you runing to bring it that high?
19:00.23Sun\Nethersylvanaar : http://sunofwisdom.net/pratlinkinvite.jpg <- see the guild motd and the text in the console invite being replaced like a variable
19:00.30AntiarcIt just reports "this is what I'll delete, this is what you have, this is what you're missing"
19:00.44phyberRophy: couldn't you just add it back and make it print a nice big warning like "WARNING YOU MIGHT SCREW UP YOUR PET BAR WITH THIS"
19:00.54phyber(if the suppression option is enabled)
19:00.58leech2kwow I panic when I get 50mb
19:01.08leech2kstupid sw stats does that sometimes
19:01.11sylvanaarSun\Nether: oh yes i know, it doesnt care where the text comes from right now
19:01.18Sun\Netherok
19:01.20markvleech: i'm assuming you don't have a lot of ram on your system?
19:01.21Rophyphyber: why not just turn off the messages by Blizzard ChatFrame menu, or create another ChatFrame3 and set it to show the default theme?
19:01.36leech2kmarkv: Just a gid
19:01.39leech2k*gig
19:01.50markvleech: ahh
19:01.55sylvanaareven though Rophy doesnt believe me, the pet frame gets tainted anyways
19:01.56leech2kmarkv: But there really is no reason for it to take that mcuh
19:02.05phybersuppose I could, again.  but I got rid of that once ;)
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19:02.35Rophysylvanaar: at least not on my testing when I turned off all addons and only SimpleCombatLog.
19:02.38sylvanaarer, petactionbuttons
19:03.23BarbanusOhhhh Ora2 bug ... when you do an /rainvite, it does level 70 chars and higher, and you cant change it
19:03.30markvhey phyber you got a second?
19:03.33cheers*nod*
19:03.46phybermarkv: sure
19:04.07vid`mark
19:04.08vid`hmm
19:04.11vid`way too much?
19:04.11vid`:D
19:04.14vid`im a modwhore
19:04.23Rophyanyway, I'm trying to make sure that MessageEventHandler is safe to hook, if it is, then the suppress combat log option will be back.
19:04.59vid`my 3 non ace mods are Auctioneer / KTM / SWStats
19:04.59Mygoreis it possible to combine a cast sequence macro and stance dependent macro together?
19:04.59vid`those 3 are very memory heavy to start with so
19:04.59leech2kvid`: yep
19:05.17vid`and i run a combination of about 100 ace mods
19:05.25BarbanusNot sure if anyone saw my question before .. does anyone know of a mod that allows you to have chat tabs like irc, where it notifies you on messages?
19:05.26leech2kI would ditch SW Stats myself but its so cool...
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19:05.38cheersBarbanus: default UI does that
19:05.44vid`barn, default ui
19:05.45vid`yea
19:05.46vid`hehe
19:05.48Barbanuscheers, it glows the tabs?
19:05.51cheersyup
19:05.52Barbanussince when...
19:05.53kenlyricBarbanus, the default UI highlights the chat tab if there is talking in it.
19:05.56cheerssince always
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19:06.09Barbanuswtf ..
19:06.12vid`:)
19:06.15cheershaha
19:06.16leech2kbut since u always had them transparent probably :-)
19:06.21kenlyricit doesn't highlight on action, events, stuff like that, but it does on talking
19:06.28Barbanusleech2k, ahhh thats probably what it is
19:06.43cheersdunno how you can stand not having them visible anyway
19:07.06leech2kalways had mine clear and like it
19:07.06Barbanuscheers, cause right now the only tabs I have are chat and combat log :P
19:07.08kenlyricthe tabs?
19:07.14Rophyis there any website which tracks blue posts and can be searched? searching by text is disabled in official forum.
19:07.16chrisaThe tabs only glow on tells though, don't they?
19:07.25cheerschrisa: yes
19:07.25chrisaI'd love for my private channels tab to light up if someone said something
19:07.26cheersno
19:07.28kenlyricno.
19:07.33kenlyricthey glow on any speaking.
19:07.38chrisano, they don't
19:07.40Silviu-Rophy can u check the externals on scl ? it makes one time in /Libs then in mainfolder 1 copy of all libs ;)
19:07.49Barbanusthey glow on private channels? cause thats what I am looking for
19:07.55Silviu-This is from devla`s modify yesterday
19:07.57BarbanusI want to separate out my class channel windows
19:07.59cheersvery first thing i  do on a fresh UI is darken the chat background
19:08.03chrisaI have 6 tabs. Only one has tells, it's the only one that lights up
19:08.34vid`i love prat / simplecombatlog
19:08.34Mygorerophy http://blue.cardplace.com/ ?
19:08.38Barbanusokay
19:08.39cheersbut you might be right chrisa
19:08.42RophySilviu-: someone else updated the externals, I'll check it up.
19:08.45leech2khmm what is prat again?
19:08.47Barbanuschrisa, do you have prat?
19:08.51vid`prat is a chat mod
19:08.55vid`pretties up chat :)
19:08.56chrisaBarbanus: yes
19:08.56TheKarn~prat
19:09.06leech2khmm always though default was fine
19:09.07Barbanusprat = sex
19:09.14vid`indeed
19:09.19vid`and simplecombatlog!
19:09.19chrisaI never looked if prat could do something for the highlighting though
19:09.19vid`;D
19:09.21cheershow pretty can it be...
19:09.26Barbanusvid`, yea and SCL
19:09.33RophyMygore: that looks exactly what I wanted, thanks
19:09.37leech2kI guess I never care much about mods if they dont help me own noobs
19:09.39chrisahttp://nullcode.org/~chris/wow/ui/
19:09.43nevcairielRophy: yes it taints the execution path. BUT, the OnEvent handler ends after that line. and its directly called from the OnEvent script, so nothing after that line which actually could get the taint.
19:09.43chrisaThat shows prat/simplecombatlog
19:09.57leech2knot really into chatting it up
19:10.00Barbanusprat does lots of cool things .. tab name completion, buncha other stuff I couldnt live without
19:10.09cheerslol
19:10.13chrisaSo back to the subject, is there a way to make private channels light up?
19:10.27leech2ksee simplcombatlog is cool
19:10.28Barbanuschrisa, hehe yea, thats what I want to know too!
19:10.30cheersoooooh blessings... your buffs look so crowded!
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19:10.37thaliepurl, prat is british slang for 'A fool, idiot or objectionable person.'  It's also a pretty cool chat mod.
19:10.39purlokay, thalie
19:10.40leech2kcan u do timestamps with defaultui?
19:10.42thalie~prat
19:10.45purli guess prat is british slang for 'A fool, idiot or objectionable person.'  It's also a pretty cool chat mod.
19:10.47thaliehehe
19:10.58cheersleech2k: dont think so
19:11.00thaliekirkburn would appreciate that
19:11.17Barbanuschrisa, my first reaction looking at that pic is .. WHOA BIG
19:11.27Barbanuswhen looking at your target/unitframes
19:11.27chrisaWhat's big?
19:11.35hastescorch
19:11.35leech2khmm timestamps would be cool for screenshots though
19:11.39Rophynevcairiel: yes I personally think it really looks like safe to hook too, just really wants to found that blue post so that I can be even more sure. the search for "MessageEventHandlder" in http://blue.cardplace.com/ returned 0 results :\
19:11.45chrisaoh, yeah. I have those scaled up in that screenshot
19:11.48chrisaIt's kinda old now
19:11.48cheersooooh Chrisa -- what castbar are you using?
19:12.05chrisaI don't remember what that was :(
19:12.10cheers>.<
19:12.14cheersI had one, but i don't remember it's name
19:12.15chrisaecastingbar maybe
19:12.19cheersand now it's gone
19:12.36thaliemage anyway, not like you need to see raid health etc - fire and forget ;)
19:12.40cheerswhere hte healthbars she's watching are
19:12.51chrisayeah, that was back when I used aguf to decurse
19:12.52nevcairielRophy: before that change everything was handled in the OnEvent function, and they splitted it into three functions, so that you could hook the MessageEventHandler without tainting the system events etc.
19:12.56chrisaSo I just showed raid health
19:12.58leech2kchrisa: the Power Surge timer is that from bigwigs?
19:13.01Barbanuscheers, use oCB
19:13.02nevcairieljust hoping to find the post
19:13.08chrisaleech2k: mmhmm
19:13.11Barbanusyou can move the castbar anywhere, change the size, etc
19:13.12cheersleech2k: yeah
19:13.19leech2kI just use the casting bar build in icehud wroks for me
19:13.23cheersBarbanus: that might be what i was using
19:13.25leech2kcool
19:13.47Rophynevcairiel: I agree it really looks like so.
19:13.47cheers<3 bigwigs
19:13.47cheersvictory music makes raiding fun! ;)
19:13.47vid`thalie: it helps to see raid health in world pvp
19:13.47kenlyricoCB and eCB are pretty close to each other,e xcept ecb has an enemy casting bar.
19:13.49vid`:)
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19:14.01thalieand oCB is sexeh
19:14.02E-RaZoR``and ocb looks a bazillion times better
19:14.04E-RaZoR``..
19:14.09kenlyricthey both look exactly the same.
19:14.16zoktaranyone have there chatframe tabs removed?
19:14.16cheerslol
19:14.16E-RaZoR``since when?
19:14.26Barbanuscheers, oCB works perfectly, except for a spell interrupt bug (the bar keeps moving when you are interrupted), but I'm gonna try to get the event for haste tonight for that
19:14.27vid`i like oCB
19:14.29cheersso long as there's a little colored bar that goes ------>|
19:14.31cheerswho cares ;)
19:14.32vid`the only thing i hate is that the bar jumps now
19:14.33thalieo c b  o c b
19:14.34vid`its not smooth
19:14.45chrisaAt this rate I'm going to look into what event triggers the tab highlighting
19:14.49chrisaand make a mod to do it
19:14.51vid`but i still love the mod
19:15.01vid`did that change for better performance?
19:15.08Goebocb is ace2... ecb ain't
19:15.12kenlyricand I use antagonist for an enemy casting bar, but it doesn't pick up events very well... especialy if you are rapidly switching targets.
19:15.20vid`its most noticable with a fast cast spell,. like scorch
19:15.22thalie~ocb
19:15.24purlfrom memory, ocb is the best castingbar replacement ... ever.
19:15.24kenlyricin fact, I think antagonist doesn't pick up enemy casting if you aren't the target.
19:15.27Barbanusvid` haste would be the guy to ask .. as I have found out :)
19:15.30chrisaHonestly, whether something is ace2 or not doesn't affect my decisions much anymore
19:15.35vid`the cast bar jumps like a quarter of the entire bar at once
19:15.47vid`almost like its not updating every millisecond
19:15.47chuckgThat's probably more client side than anything else.
19:15.48cheersaw heck. I hate localization bugs >.<
19:15.49vid`or whatever
19:15.53chrisaEspecially after the whole externals buggery that had half my guild asking me why mod _____ didn't work
19:16.03kenlyricso anyway, what enemy casting bars do other people use?
19:16.05hugoanyone know if its possible in Grid make health deficit on value instead % ?
19:16.07vid`NECB
19:16.08leech2kwe had issues with big wigss at 4h so guild switched back to la vendeta :-(
19:16.12thalieAntagonist
19:16.15vid`oh damn i forgot so i use 4 non ace mods :)
19:16.15Barbanuschrisa, people who dont keep mods up to date FTL
19:16.18cheersleech2k: ick.
19:16.20thaliemEnemyCastBar
19:16.21leech2kand la vendeta had a better loatheb frame
19:16.27gnorlishantagonist has a flag called "selfrelevant"
19:16.30CIA-1703phyber * r20600 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc TopScoreFu.lua):
19:16.30CIA-17FuBar_TopScoreFu:
19:16.30CIA-17- Added patch from TheKarn to support clicking specific scores to paste to chat.
19:16.32chrisaHm? BW worked fine at 4h as long as you have the combatlog range at 200 yards
19:16.33kenlyricand that works no matter who they are targetting?
19:16.38chrisaIf it's 30 it can't catch all the mark events
19:16.40leech2kbut meh dont matter to me now I quit raiding
19:16.41gnorlishthat lets you choose whether to only alert things targeting you
19:16.50chrisaWe use an in house mod for 4h though
19:17.01zoktaris anyone having the chat tabs dissapere?
19:17.07leech2kchrisa: mayeb that was it it kept getting 1 mark off for us
19:17.14cheerswe're hung up on loatheb :/
19:17.18chrisaJust mark timers and rotation updates
19:17.23zoktarbuggrabber shows no buggs
19:17.34leech2kcheers: loatheb is harder since patch
19:17.38chrisaeh
19:17.40CIA-1703shiftos * r20601 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (FuBar_GuildFu.toc FuBar_GuildFuLocals.esES.lua):
19:17.40CIA-17FuBar_GuildFu
19:17.40CIA-17- added spanish translation
19:17.41*** join/#wowace mirco (n=moonblad@0x3e42d166.adsl.cybercity.dk)
19:17.41cheersleech2k: comforting, eh? ;)
19:17.44leech2kcheers: just get world buff though and it cake
19:17.46chrisaLoatheb was significantly easier I thought...
19:17.47chrisaSorry
19:17.54hasteso many highlights
19:17.56thalielolatheb?
19:17.57leech2kcheers: zg and zanza pot
19:17.58hasteso little information
19:18.01chrisaUnless your raid is primarily melee dps
19:18.08CIA-1703rophy * r20602 10SimpleCombatLog/ (. Libs/):
19:18.08CIA-17SimpleCombatLog:
19:18.08CIA-17- Fixing externals.
19:18.13cheerschrisa: yeah, we're melee heavy, actually
19:18.17leech2kwhen ur tank has 12k hp u have room for error :-)
19:18.20cheersnot primarily, by any means, but :shrug:
19:18.23cheersgeeze leech2k
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19:18.32cheersw/ a tauren we're not getting above 10.9
19:18.37chrisaRoom for error is having a shadow priest in your MT group
19:18.39*** join/#wowace Meiun|| (i=asd@h142n1fls31o883.telia.com)
19:18.42cheerswtb BElfs :P
19:18.47nevcairielRophy: parser-1 or 2.0 now?
19:18.49chrisaNow that Vamp Emp is a magic effect he no longer wipes it
19:18.56Antiarc"The high-energy physics team's demonstration of "High Speed Data Gathering, Distribution and Analysis for Physics Discoveries at the Large Hadron Collider" achieved a peak throughput of 17.77 gigabits per second (Gbps) between clusters of servers at the show floor and at Caltech."
19:18.58AntiarcGood lord.
19:19.03cheerschrisa: yeah, I'm trying to decide how hard I wanna push that
19:19.08*** part/#wowace mirco (n=moonblad@0x3e42d166.adsl.cybercity.dk)
19:19.11Rophynevcairiel: what do you mean?
19:19.24leech2kcheers: our 2 mts have 8/9 t3 now I think so with rumsey rum, chops, zg buff, zg pot they are around 12k
19:19.30nevcairielRophy: is parserlib-2.0 ready for use or is it sill 1.1 ?
19:19.33cheersleech2k: alli side?
19:19.40leech2kcheers: ya
19:19.46cheersyeah BoK's helps with that ;)
19:19.47leech2ko we got kings :-)
19:19.51chuckgBOK...
19:19.55chuckgBlessing of Easy.
19:19.56chuckg=D
19:20.01Barbanus<= BoK bot
19:20.04leech2klol horde said same thing about salv
19:20.15cheersoh man... threat is owning us so hard right now
19:20.26Rophynevcairiel: still 1.1, Parser-2.0 mainly stuck on the fact that I couldn't make a decision on the API to be released.
19:20.33cheerszombie chow was slaughtering healers left and right the other night >.<
19:20.47cheersthen I hear on TS "should we give the healers Tranq Air?"
19:20.49ToadkillerOh man I can not wait for easy mode play with my BLood Elf paladin
19:20.49leech2khmm the only thread problems we ever have is hunters once in awhile
19:20.54cheers*sigh* ya think?
19:21.00leech2kI guess they feel like getting on the dps meter or something
19:21.04BarbanusI get so mad when some dps'er bitches about spec'ing to raid, and I'm stuck spec'ing 40, 11, 0 for raiding
19:21.28leech2keveryone once in awhile a fury warrior gets piece and fight continues like normal :-)
19:21.33chrisa0/0/51, good for raid and pvp. I win
19:21.35Gnarfozso, can someone with an US account ask on the US forums about ReplaceEnchant() being protected? can't over-enchant anything :\
19:21.42thalietoadkiller: many people feel the same about our draenei shammies
19:21.47chrisaI do use more consumables because of it though
19:21.47cheers...51 frost?
19:21.53cheerso.O
19:21.59chrisayes, clearcasting is unnecessary
19:22.04leech2kI am shadow and my guild didnt give me much grief about it
19:22.04chrisaand tier 1 arcane is a wasteland
19:22.06thaliefull arcane F T W
19:22.09Toadkillerlol shammies are not anywhere close to as usefull as paladins
19:22.15leech2keven went shadowform for cthun :-)
19:22.18cheersI was thinking more, you know, combustion, emp Fireball & the like
19:22.18Barbanusleech2k, we have a shadow priest, 1 :)
19:22.24chrisauh Toad, don't start this :)
19:22.30Toadkiller0 0 512 resto Druid <--
19:22.35Barbanusleech2k, he comes in use, ALOT
19:22.36leech2kBarbanus: Yeah, I was only one, but always just healed in raids.
19:22.40Rophynevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1732.msg64792#msg64792
19:22.42Toadkillerer make that 51
19:22.46Barbanusleech2k, yea, same with ours.
19:23.00cheersblech. if all I'm gonna do is heal, I may as well be holy
19:23.01leech2kBarbanus: Ya just most guild dont' have the spare healers. And don't really know how to use a sp
19:23.05Barbanusleech2k, except he dps's on like Thaddius, and others
19:23.08cheersif I'm shadow, i wanna be in form, nuking
19:23.13cheersbut leech2k has it right
19:23.19chrisaWe have our priest dpsing, it makes a big difference on Thaddius and Loatheb, and we keep him with the locks so it gives them health and mana via the vamps
19:23.20thalienot all guilds are as accomodating as that cheers ;)
19:23.32cheersthalie: thats a reason I'm holy ;)
19:23.33ToadkillerWait, I take that back, there is some boss where shammies make it easy.  Huhu?
19:23.34thalieif i shadowform i am toast, chrisa... srsly :)
19:23.37zoktaranyone know wich addons breaking chat frames?
19:23.39leech2ko yeah vamp embrace does insance damage at thaddius :-)
19:23.42cheersToadkiller: not any more
19:23.47sylvanaarzoktar: ALL OF THEM
19:23.47cheersgrounding totem doesn't work on her dot
19:23.56cheersToadkiller: viscidius supposedly
19:23.58Rophyis the svn slow as hell only to me or everyone else? I can't even do an update to one mod properly.
19:24.04chrisaToadkiller: It's not like chain heal is the single most powerful heal in the game and nearly the most efficient, while earth shield is the single most powerful healing buff for any sort of tank
19:24.07leech2kshadoform is really good for vael to if u still do bwl :-)
19:24.16chrisaBut it's ok, lets get into a mindless faction balance argument. That's productive
19:24.32ToadkillerAh yeah thats right, insta 5 man depoison by placing the totem
19:24.54chrisaPoison Cleansing Totem is hilarious on Viscidus
19:25.00cheerswe never got the NR gear set up right to do visc
19:25.01chrisa"This guy poisons? I didn't notice"
19:25.02leech2kI am alliance and I think pallies > shamans. But I bet a shaman is like 10x more fun to play.
19:25.13ToadkillerThere is no argument, everyone is getting the same class types...
19:25.17thaliei am alliance and i found paladins unplayable until recently
19:25.18Barbanusour shadowpriest was outhealing most healers on thaddius with vamp, lol
19:25.21cheersleech2k: I'd say that a lot og my guildies would disagree
19:25.27cheersBarbanus: I bet o.O
19:25.42Barbanusthalie, I totally disagree
19:25.44leech2kcheers: I dunno in pvp pallies just chase people all day it sucks
19:25.51zoktarif anyone cares it was prat ;P
19:25.55Barbanusthalie, its better now... but it was fine before too :PO
19:25.56thaliethats cool barnabus, i played one to 60 and into MC
19:26.04leech2kshamans can go all crazy spell damage and cast chain lighting
19:26.04cheersleech2k: theey got mean this patch
19:26.08leech2kthat right there is worth it
19:26.09cheershaha
19:26.14leech2kcheers: very true
19:26.21Barbanusthalie, my main is a pally :)
19:26.22cheersI don't think I've seen one cast CL in quite awhile, honestly...
19:26.22Mikmaok, anyone can tell me how is the !!!StandaloneLibraries supposed to work?
19:26.31AntiarcPaladins are a phenominal support character in PVP
19:26.35thalieyeah i changed from pally, to hunter, to mage, now priest
19:26.35thalie;)
19:26.41Barbanushaha
19:26.42thalieall 60
19:26.43thaliehehe
19:26.45leech2kcheers: o man I still shiver from the dual trinket days and chain lightning
19:26.46AntiarcStick a paladin or two into a group in AB and the node becomes damned near impossible to crack.
19:26.47BarbanusAntiarc, they sure are.
19:26.54cheersyeah...
19:27.01BarbanusI've been pvping for the last week straight
19:27.04ToadkillerIf you have to ask Mikma then they are not for you.  Basically if u use them it is up to you to make sure you don't break any mods
19:27.05cheersalthough I got a 1500 pt MB yesterday w/ a trinket PI *grin*
19:27.15BarbanusWe have lost 4 games out of over 150 games
19:27.18leech2kpallies are the strongest 1v1 class in the game imo though
19:27.18thaliehey toadkiller, autobar question for you
19:27.21cheerswish I had a few more points to slip into divine fury or whatever the extra 10% on smite is
19:27.22leech2kjsut take a decent player
19:27.30thalieis it a known issue that the buttons on the bar change as you mouse over?
19:27.31AntiarcI'd argue warlocks, leech2k ;)
19:27.37sylvanaarzoktar: waht was
19:27.40kenlyrichmmm,, my chat tabs are gone now too.
19:27.41Barbanusleech2k, well .. depending on spec .. you cant kill anything .. but you dont die either
19:27.44Mikmawell i thought the folders were supposed to be empty
19:27.47chrisaR.I.P Autobar's usefulness
19:27.48leech2kAntiarc: I know a few pallies that never lose to warlocks
19:27.56Antiarc*shrug*
19:28.00Barbanusi can get zerged by 6 guys, and live until my friends get there
19:28.17cheersa good affliction lock can own me 'cuz of UA, but other than that... they aren't causing me that much trouble
19:28.18leech2kBarbanus: low dps but insane surviability.
19:28.25MikmaThis package contains NO CODE, only empty folders.
19:28.29Barbanusleech2k, exactly
19:28.32leech2kslow and steady wins the race :-)
19:28.33Mikmaso why is my svn getting externals
19:28.44ToadkillerThe only benefit of the standalone libraries is that you take up less HD space, and avoid redundant loading of some libraries (ie slightly longer startup).  It has zero effect on memory in game so there is really not much point to it unless u want to constantly break mods
19:28.51leech2knaw the best dueler on our server is a pally
19:29.02AntiarcMikma: svn:externals set on the "empty" folders perhaps? ;)
19:29.04MikmaToadkiller: i'm not talking about the usage of it
19:29.07leech2ksecond best is probaly  a soul link lock
19:29.17MikmaAntiarc: no, they set to the correct folders
19:29.20leech2k7500 hp 4tl
19:29.27cheerslol
19:29.38AntiarcI'm confused
19:29.38leech2khe stacked all stam gear
19:29.42AntiarcGuess I'd have to see it.
19:30.18Toadkillerthalie: That happenned quite a number of revs ago.  If it is happening in the latest version then it is a bug
19:30.19leech2khe wears the tank/stam ring from bronze dragonflight and nef head ring lol
19:30.20Amadeocheers: You should be able to outheal most Warlock DoTs without worrying about dispelling...unless they're uber-geared
19:30.32cheersAmadeo: and where do you find ones that aren't? ;)
19:30.35thaliei update from svn on a regular basis - i will try again tonight and let you know
19:30.37thalietyvm
19:30.41Amadeocheers: Well, if you have competitive gear...then you should be fine :)
19:30.47cheersAmadeo: it's usually a situation of a 2v2 w/ a FF
19:30.50cheersAmadeo: ha!
19:30.59AntiarcThe problem starts in when the warlock is in ur cast range burning ur manaz.
19:31.10cheersya know, I've only seen 1 do that, ever.
19:31.13cheersand it was DEVISTATING.
19:31.21AmadeoYou have to do it to some Priests
19:31.25Amadeothey're too good to beat without it
19:31.25AntiarcI honestly don't know why more people don't manaburn more paladins
19:31.31cheersI just couldn't figure out how to make him stop o.O
19:31.38BarbanusAntiarc, heh
19:31.39*** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuOHEP@h54.ciscom.ru)
19:31.40cheersand i couldn't kill him w/ what I had left
19:31.42AntiarcOn my priest, I manaburn paladins right off the bat, and they're left high and dry. I can just throw on a renew and outheal their damage.
19:31.43AmadeoAntiarc: I used to mana burn any of the retnoobs
19:31.49leech2kAntiarc: T2 and better pallies have so much regen its almost pointless sometimes
19:31.56cheershaha
19:32.08AmadeoBut then again, the days when I played my Priest were different
19:32.15BarbanusNot to mention stun
19:32.17AmadeoNobody beat good Priests then...ever :P
19:32.18Barbanusand bubble
19:32.20leech2kit works on all dps/crit geared pallies though :-)
19:32.24kenlyricheh... scl is showing compact damage message and the default damage message.
19:32.25AntiarcOne school of magic + stupidly high mana dependency is the biggest downfall there.
19:32.51zoktarsylvanaar prat broke the chatframes....
19:32.51leech2kAmadeo: soul link warlocks are my problem on my priest
19:32.51zoktarsylvanaar well the tabs anyway
19:32.51kenlyricnah, they didn't break.
19:32.54sylvanaarzoktar: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
19:32.59kenlyricthey just got toggled off.
19:33.06leech2kif they use the felhunter its like gg
19:33.06Amadeoleech2k: I gave my Priest account away ages ago...so I can't tell you how I do now...but back then Warlocks were easy :)
19:33.08kenlyricgo down to ChatTabs, and Toggle them back on.
19:33.26Antiarc"back then", warlocks were a free kill for anyone that felt like it, depending on how far back we're talking ;)
19:33.29cheerseh... the big trick...
19:33.29leech2kAmadeo:  I can take every build of warlock except soul link
19:33.35cheersstay next to the guy w/ hte big sword.
19:33.45thaliezoktar - please submit a proper buf report with revision # and exact problem, not "broke the chat frames"
19:33.52leech2ksoul link = easy mode
19:33.56cheerslol
19:34.01cheersmy lock is specced soul link
19:34.08Amadeoleech2k: I can't even remember my tactic back then...Soul Link was 50% at that time, and Felhunters didn't have the high resists then either
19:34.09kenlyricmy favorite role as a priest in pvp is "easy target"
19:34.09leech2ku have to do like 12k damage to kill them
19:34.12AntiarcBlade Flurry + Soul Link lock that tries to burn you down without fearing you = party :D
19:34.15Gnarfozhurrgh
19:34.17krunk-I've seen the multiple assignement syntax of lua: x, y = getCoords() for example. Sometimes I see this: _, y = getCoords(). I assume the _ is like a null assignment.
19:34.24Gnarfozwhere do I get an older version of SimpleCombatLog?
19:34.26Rophykenlyric: I removed the suppress default log option, disable the blizzard events manually (or use another ChatFrame) for now.
19:34.28krunk-Would I be right?
19:34.29leech2kfelhunter with 315 all rests ... and remove debuffs/buffs
19:34.31Antiarc"_" is just a placeholder-by-convention
19:34.32thaliepriests in pvp?  they assume the form of the HONORWELL.  touch me for free honor.
19:34.40BarbanusI'm sitting at 5k health, 6k mana, and 10k armor in my pvp support gear ..
19:34.41cheersthalie: nah
19:34.43Amadeoleech2k: Yeah...they still had high resists, but not 300+
19:34.43AntiarcIt doesn't mean anything special in the langauge, IIRC.
19:34.46cheersthalie: just takes having a team with you
19:34.47Amadeothey normally resisted fears
19:34.51cheersthalie: solo, well...
19:34.54CIA-1703phyber * r20603 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (TopScoreFu.lua TopScoreFuLocals.lua):
19:34.54CIA-17FuBar_TopScoreFu:
19:34.54CIA-17- Call the SpamSingleScore function in a nicer way.
19:34.54CIA-17- Updated the hint to point out new functionality.
19:34.54thaliecheers: yeah, solo
19:34.57kenlyrici just pop renew on everyone. Free honor.
19:35.05krunk-Antiarc: ah ok, so your actually assigning the value to _
19:35.06cheersthalie: that's a COMPLETELY different situation
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19:35.11Amadeoleech2k: I was also a Night Elf, with lots of useless Magic Buffs which I used for "dispel fodder" against Warlocks with a Felhunter out
19:35.11CIA-1703shiftos * r20604 10FuBar/FuBar-Locale-esES.lua: FuBar - updated spanish translation
19:35.13leech2kAmadeo: it might be a set bonus thing
19:35.16cheersand one that take a lot more skill to live through
19:35.20Antiarckrunk-: Correct. _ just conventionally means "this is a throwaway value".
19:35.30krunk-Antiarc: interesting thanks
19:35.53kenlyricthis game can't really be measured solo 1vs1.
19:36.14kenlyricjust read the post about why they won't ever make 1 man instances to understand that they can't ever balance this game for 1vs1 pvp
19:36.20leech2k1v1 doesnt really mean a thing... except how well u can defend farm/stables lol
19:36.30AntiarcRogues can stunlock other rogues 100-0. Rogues are obviously broken! Buff the stunned rogue, and nerf the stunlocker!
19:36.36AmadeoI was a really good PvP Priest back then...but to be honest, I sucked at healing in PvP...I did well healing in PvE though :P
19:36.58Rophynevcairiel: do you remember how long ago did you see the blue post about ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler? I really can't seem to find it :X
19:37.07leech2kits hard to tell if I was ever good usually always had a gear advantage. I am glad everyone has gm gear now to even it up
19:37.13Amadeohaha
19:37.15AmadeoI don't
19:37.20Machine_I'm actually working on a (shadow) priest atm. All I'm hoping is that I won't suck completely at pvp with him
19:37.21vid`jej
19:37.23vid`heh
19:37.23AmadeoI don't have any PvP teams, so I get like 3k honor a day with a LOT of work
19:37.26vid`honor is slow as hell
19:37.29leech2kmeh more fair = better fights
19:37.31Amadeoand with the nrf, probably more like 1.5k
19:37.31vid`i made 700 honor last night
19:37.32vid`in 1/5h
19:37.33vid`:(
19:37.35RophyI'll update SCL as soon as I find any proof of the blue post about ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler.
19:37.36vid`er 1.5h
19:37.38kenlyricmy priest is shadow, but I don't let anyone else know that in pvp. They might want me to do damage.
19:37.43AntiarcI was pulling ~7k honor per evening running with a team last week.
19:37.45leech2kI run pvp teams on our server and we get 15k plus a day
19:37.51vid`yea last wee
19:37.54leech2k6 min abs 4tw
19:37.56vid`they nerfed honor
19:37.58vid`bad
19:38.00AmadeoAntiarc: Yeah, my server blows, I want to transfer :(
19:38.00GnarfozRophy: got any old versions around? they worked beautifully :\
19:38.04Machine_fuck premades
19:38.05AntiarcGranted, that was just for PVPing on the alliance side in the evening, with associated queues.
19:38.05vid`all the tier3 people hog honor
19:38.15Machine_pardon my language
19:38.19vid`the tier3 people run premade AB's and roll our tier1 groups :P
19:38.22leech2kmeh my group is all alts of t3 peolel so greens / blues
19:38.25Amadeovid`: Yeah
19:38.26vid`and the tier3 people get honor points they dont need
19:38.31leech2kcoordination plays a big role though
19:38.33AmadeoEvery BG I join, I'm against a premade with Tier3+
19:38.33vid`and the tier1 people get screwed again
19:38.38AntiarcMy group is mostly tier 2 gear, and we've held our ground (and beaten) tier 3 teams.
19:38.39RophyGnarfoz: you mean the suppress blizzard log? no they don't beautifully, it taints the blizzard UI.
19:38.42vid`casuals FTL again!
19:38.45leech2kwe have maybe 5 max with t3
19:38.52AmadeoDon't look at it that way
19:38.59AmadeoYeah it sucks for casuals, but it's still a hell of a lot better than before
19:39.02AntiarcI mean, heck, we have a lot of people in MC gear at best.
19:39.03vid`well we've massacred tier3 teams too
19:39.05leech2krest are greens / blues and whatever gm gear they have picked up :-)
19:39.07AmadeoYou at least have the possibility to get gear now
19:39.10vid`still though
19:39.10GnarfozRophy: didn't experience any problems? o_O
19:39.13vid`its just slow
19:39.16Amadeoyeah, very
19:39.18kenlyricmeh, none of this matters now.
19:39.21vid`and so much harder then the guys who can roll groups in 5 mins
19:39.24leech2kya new server stuck in battle groups with old servers would suck
19:39.25kenlyricall your gear is become crap.
19:39.25AntiarcApparently the actual honor nerf was 51%, not 30%.
19:39.29vid`but yea it wont matter in a month
19:39.31AmadeoI heard, Antiarc, lol
19:39.33Antiarc-30% on all direct honor gains, and -30% on your daily total.
19:39.34[Ammo]nice nerf
19:39.34Gnarfozso, anyone besides Rophy with an older version of SCL that can hide the normal combat log entries? :D
19:39.41vid`yea
19:39.46vid`well now you get 1-5 honor a kill in pvp
19:39.49vid`lol
19:39.50RophyGnarfoz: just update svn to an older version.
19:39.53leech2kthere is a bug my friend found last night
19:39.58vid`i killed a tier 3 field marshal paladin 1 on 1
19:39.58[Ammo]doesn't really matter
19:40.02[Ammo]you still get honor
19:40.05vid`on my tier 1 mage with +250 spell dmg
19:40.08GnarfozRophy: hm, how do I find out which older versions exist?
19:40.08leech2khe bought the swifblade for ~20k and it didnt deduct his honor
19:40.09vid`and got 10 honor
19:40.12AmadeoMy f'ing Combat Log disappears EVERY time I log in
19:40.14Amadeopissing me off
19:40.16leech2kso he bought the shield with the same 20k honor
19:40.20Sarozvid`, ehhh T3 paladin?
19:40.24Sarozthat's healing gear, grats man
19:40.25kergothi need to pvp my ass off, i'm so out of practice, got my ass kicked in ab last night
19:40.25Sarozgrats
19:40.26*** join/#wowace mirco (n=moonblad@0x3e42d166.adsl.cybercity.dk)
19:40.26kenlyricpriest pvp gear sucks ass, even for soloing.
19:40.29kergothforgot how to play a subtlety rogue
19:40.32kenlyricno spirit makes me a sad panda.
19:40.40vid`shrug, he hit me for 2k
19:40.40RophyGnarfoz: use tortoiseSVN?
19:40.41vid`hehe
19:40.45cheerssoo much juicy stat on those legs :)
19:40.45Amadeocheers: Have a cookie, you'll feel better
19:40.48leech2kya I only use 2 peices of gm gear
19:40.51Antiarckergoth: If you have some halfway decent daggers, give Mutilate a shot. It's just sexy in PVP.
19:40.52vid`i got a lucky counterspell off and unloaded on him
19:40.52cheersAmadeo: yaaay
19:40.58leech2kchest and gloves and that is just for stam
19:40.59Amadeocheers: I'm not an old lady though
19:41.03vid`and got 2 nasty crits before he could bubble
19:41.07cheersAmadeo: i'm lost now
19:41.11[Ammo]I'm levelling my pally alt up to 60
19:41.13[Ammo]for some pvp gear
19:41.15DekunaSimpleCombatLog is not suppressing default combat text
19:41.16vid`paladins are rough though
19:41.18leech2kits easy to get better gear from nax /bwl that mages and locks dont want
19:41.18[Ammo]6.5 levels to go
19:41.19*** join/#wowace bhuddleston (n=bhuddles@66.219.47.226)
19:41.24cheersgood luck [Ammo]
19:41.25kergothAntiarc: i use mutilate on my rogue on beta, i love it, he's 65 so far.  but him on the main realm is still using dal rends, was a combat build :P
19:41.28vid`Dekuna: turn off the default combat logf
19:41.33RophyDekuna: I removed that functionality.
19:41.33vid`close the window
19:41.34AntiarcHehe, fair enough.
19:41.35kergothgonna CoS/hemo it up till i get some pvp daggers
19:41.37vid`and its supressed
19:41.38vid`!
19:41.38Amadeocheers: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Matrix_oraclesitsandtalkstoneo.gif
19:41.47[Ammo]and with the guild it's easy to get the honor for the weapons
19:41.48cheersaaah
19:41.49vid`i dont keep it up :)
19:41.58AmadeoADD FTW!
19:41.58cheersI'm such a failure as a geek
19:42.25leech2kmy current shadow gear  http://ctprofiles.net/1211982
19:42.27AmadeoMy Shaman is 36, I want him to be 40-41 so badly
19:42.43cheersgeeze
19:42.44beerkehmm seems ora2 and ctraid main tanks do not get along
19:42.58[Ammo]again?
19:42.58beerkei have people that say that they don't see tanks with latest version
19:43.00Amadeoleech2k: Here's my Priest - http://www.warcraftrealms.com/charsheet/1132131
19:43.01[Ammo]they should go along
19:43.01Amadeohaha
19:43.02AntiarcIs everyone up to date on both ends?
19:43.04cheersI couldn't get ebony flame gloves... we were cyclingwarlocks through the guild like 2dollar whores
19:43.15AntiarcCTRaid broke backwards compatibility recently.
19:43.15beerkei updated ora2 today and the ctmod users today as well
19:43.18Machine_i'm just hoping to reach 60 and pvp enough for the rare set before the expansion
19:43.25*** join/#wowace Iff (n=asmdel@zux165-058.adsl.green.ch)
19:43.26kenlyricso, I watched a warlock level to 40 last night, and I /cheered and /danced and said "grats on your free mount"... and he had no idea what I was talking about.
19:43.45AntiarcMain tanks worked fine for me yesterday, FWIW. I was using oRA2, and we have several people with CTRaid
19:43.55cheersMT's were fine for me too
19:44.04beerkehmmm
19:44.18cheersthis's noth: http://ctprofiles.net/132244
19:44.33cheersPvP's my shadow gear
19:44.42AntiarcHahahah, awesome, you have the offhand :D
19:44.51cheersAntiarc: the MDO?
19:45.00AntiarcNoth's Frigid Heart
19:45.03cheersoh yeah
19:45.05cheersgot the first one
19:45.05AntiarcAppropriate for the name :)
19:45.06kenlyricI miss my t2 gear... I'm kinda glad that set bonus got nerfed so I don't miss it quite as much.
19:45.09Machine_has anyone seen any trinkets like toep in the beta?
19:45.10cheersexactly
19:45.31cheers"PVP" is the shadow gear
19:45.50[Ammo]beerke: people need to be up-to-date on both ends
19:45.53KarlThePaganMachine_ they give you a toep-like trinket as a quest reward for finishing the first instance
19:45.53[Ammo]it works fine then
19:46.01beerkewell he had v1.6 ctraid
19:46.04KarlThePaganand you get another not as good one in the 2nd zone
19:46.08KarlThePaganquest reward
19:46.09[Ammo]1.621 is the lastest
19:46.13beerkesome had 1.66 so i told him to update
19:46.16cheersKarlThePagan: which, of course don't stack, I assume
19:46.16[Ammo]so he's not up-to-date
19:46.29KarlThePagancheers shared cooldown of course
19:46.30Machine_KarlThePagan: Awesome, thanks
19:46.44cheersbetter than a mind-tap for pure dmg, I guess, but... meh.
19:46.45KarlThePagan"vengance of the illidari" and "glowing insignia" or something like that
19:46.51Dekunackk: having some issues with the loot frame display in cartographer
19:46.57leech2kman I have wanted cape of the trinity forever but we never do bug trio anymore
19:47.00Machine_I'm trying hard to decide how to gear up once I hit 60 before the expansion. It's bloody hard
19:47.15cheersleech2k: it's SOOOOOOOO  ugly
19:47.20KarlThePaganwhat class machine?
19:47.23leech2knice stats though for sp
19:47.28cheersyeah
19:47.29Gnarfozoh hell :\ why does this have to be broken
19:47.32Machine_KarlThePagan: Priesrt
19:47.36nevcairielRophy: maybe it was a green post. i cant find it either, maybe in one of the older concise list threads .. still looking
19:47.37cheersdon't get me wrong, I'm enjoying it ;)
19:47.38Gnarfozsvn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/20603' <-- what do I do if I get this?
19:47.39Machine_minus an 'r' or so
19:47.40kenlyricMachine, me too.
19:47.41leech2kAmadeo: How do I get gear from that link?
19:47.48[Ammo]Gnarfoz: wait a few mins
19:47.59[Ammo]updating while another person commits is a bad idea
19:48.04KarlThePaganget your tier 2 stuff if you can, if not go for pvp gear
19:48.10*** join/#wowace Beor (n=opera@178.81-166-220.customer.lyse.net)
19:48.12Gnarfozhm
19:48.24AntiarcHas there been any more info on the alternate-color Tier 2 sets?
19:48.29kenlyricI was actually thinking about ZG gear.
19:48.37cheerskenlyric: the ZG gear's pretty quality
19:48.38Rophynevcairiel: really appreciate the help, I'll hook it anyway, to shut people up.
19:48.41cheersthat's what my 'lock is dressed in
19:48.42KarlThePaganactually broodlord hits rediculously hard now so you might just stick with pvp gear
19:48.44AntiarcLast I heard, they were basically non-class-restricted update tier 2 that dropped in Outland, but that was pretty shaky info.
19:48.48Machine_I'm not in a raiding guild so T2 is out. I'm trying to decide wether to buy the rare pvp set or go for the warlord dagger and book
19:48.52KarlThePaganand yea zg / aq20 gear has always been great for offspec priest
19:48.57cheersAntiarc: whaaa?
19:49.05AmadeoRophy: Do you think SCL will make my combat log stop disappearing? :P
19:49.09Machine_basically get a full set of something i'll easily replace or a few pieces of something that might last longer
19:49.10KarlThePaganbut for healing gear... t2 > zg/aq20
19:49.12AntiarcThere are data files for recolored tier 2 sets in the data files, cheers
19:49.13kenlyricfinding a pug group/guild group willing to take someone in quest gear is going to be pretty hard.
19:49.14cheersKarlThePagan: that's why I still have bloodtinged gloves ;)
19:49.21kenlyricerrr, take to BWL>
19:49.24cheersyeah, t2 > ZG for the most part... definately for 3 piece
19:49.34cheersbut there's a progression ;)
19:49.39kenlyric3 piece is nerfed.
19:49.40AntiarcI'd heard a rumor that they were something or other that dropped in Outland, and someone said they weren't class restricted, but these are just rumors
19:49.40RophyAmadeo: I think that's a known Blizzard bug about the guild recruitment channel option.
19:49.48cheerskenlyric: I'm in denial ;)
19:49.52AntiarcWhich is why I'm wondering if anyone has anything more solid.
19:49.55kenlyricI don't care about progression. This is my second priest :)
19:49.58AmadeoRophy: But I'm in a guild :( I don't use SCL right now, I'm wondering if using it would fix it, lol
19:50.11KarlThePagancheers not the reward gloves from "The Calling" ?
19:50.12cheersreally, though, we're gonna be levelling & getting decent stuff in outlands (I hope)
19:50.15cheersso this close I wouldnt worry
19:50.23cheersKarlThePagan: took the fuckign pants :/
19:50.26Antiarchttp://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1702
19:50.31KarlThePaganyou get both now
19:50.34cheersKarlThePagan: turned out kay though, 'cuz I need the hit for MC
19:50.35KarlThePaganI guess they changed it
19:50.38cheersKarlThePagan: ??
19:50.40kenlyricupi
19:50.41Gnarfozand I can't even download tortoise
19:50.42cheersKarlThePagan: I might've just burned em then
19:50.45KarlThePaganyea
19:50.47kenlyricyou've been able to get both for a while now.
19:50.47GnarfozSCL hates me :\
19:50.50kenlyricI vendored the gloves.
19:50.50BarbanusAmadeo, turn off the auto join guild recruitment channel option in interface options ... that will fix it.
19:50.54Amadeocheers: My Warlock is 64 and has a bunch of TBC greens...I think around 550 spell damage and 6500-ish HP...haven't played in a while
19:51.02RophyAmadeo: I don't think SCL is the cause of it, and SCL won't fix it at all if you're having the problem.
19:51.05AmadeoBarbanus: Woot, thanks
19:51.14Amadeo:)
19:51.26KarlThePaganI cried because I got a nice mace in Bloodfurnice that replaced my aurastone hammer... 3 hours into playing TBC
19:51.29AmadeoRophy: Yeah, I'm not pointing fingers at SCL, just bored :)
19:51.35Rophy:p
19:51.36cheersoh god that yellow
19:51.36Barbanusfor some reason having it on .. when you are in a guild .. screws up
19:51.39cheerspoor paladins
19:51.57kenlyricKarl.. how long have you had the aurastone hammer?
19:52.03cheerslol
19:52.04kenlyricsee, I'd cry if I still *had* that damn thing ;)
19:52.06Machine_Amadeo: how much of your gear on your warlock have you replaced in the beta?
19:52.11cheerswe JUST  replaced our last aurastone
19:52.12KarlThePagan2 months or so
19:52.16cheerswith widow's remourse
19:52.20KarlThePaganwe haven't had a hand of nef drop yet
19:52.23BarbanusWTF are with those t2 sets?
19:52.23KarlThePagani'll probably get the first one
19:52.30kenlyricI was all excited about TBC because the damn benediction i'd had for a year would finally go away... now I'm happy because all my gear will be an upgrade :)
19:52.48AntiarcBarbanus: New stuff in the TBC data files.
19:52.49cheerskenlyric: hahaa, fuking bene
19:52.50KarlThePaganhaven't replaced bene yet... need to instance more
19:52.56cheersworst part was... I couldn't burn the damn thing!
19:53.00KarlThePaganit got buffed...
19:53.02BarbanusAntiarc, for what tho?
19:53.03AntiarcI like to replace Benediction by turning it into Anathema occassionally.
19:53.07KarlThePagancrit rating to all spells not just holy
19:53.10AntiarcBarbanus: that's what I was wondering ;)
19:53.13cheersKarlThePagan: sweet
19:53.22Barbanus"So this could be somewhere along the lines of the CoT sets. "
19:53.27KarlThePagani want them to change our zg trinket too
19:53.30Barbanusahh caverns of time .. that would make sense
19:53.30AntiarcOh, that's not a bad theory.
19:53.37KarlThePagan400 spell haste rating I'll take that plx
19:53.41kenlyricI just want like a 5 piece t 1 and 3 piece t2, but not actually have to raid another 6 months to get it  :)
19:54.11cheershah
19:54.16cheersyou're in for a let down ;)
19:54.25hugopastamancer you here ? :)
19:54.29GnarfozRophy: have got TortoiseSVN now, but I can't find a way to get older revisions that I don't know the revision numbers of :\
19:54.33KarlThePagant2 3pc got nerfed to hell
19:54.35Toadkillerlucky for you you wont have to raid another 6 months cuz tbc is 1 month away
19:54.38hugoi have big problem with grid cant select target when holding shift/ctrl ;x
19:54.42cheersGnarfoz: svn log?
19:54.47KarlThePagani personally lost 10mp5 on it
19:54.57cheersKarlThePagan: I hit 400 spirit...
19:55.00cheersit's like halved for me.
19:55.03KarlThePagannice
19:55.04AmadeoLOL, my Combat Log vanished *as* I was dragging it
19:55.16cheers(well I did... I'm out of halloween apples :(_
19:55.20Gnarfoza-ha
19:55.23Gnarfozcheers: cheers.
19:55.25Barbanusstupid question .. is there some weird buff with thaddius and spell crit rate?
19:55.28CIA-1703rophy * r20605 10SimpleCombatLog/ (core.lua opt_gui_core.lua):
19:55.28CIA-17SimpleCombatLog:
19:55.28CIA-17- Suppress default combat log is back (by hooking ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler instead of ChatFrame_OnEvent).
19:55.39kenlyricKarl, remember that regen mods show you mana per tick, not mana per 5 seconds.
19:55.41RophyGnarfoz: ok now shut up :p
19:55.47GnarfozRophy: will do :D
19:55.56KarlThePagankenlyric yes i realize
19:55.58*** part/#wowace mirco (n=moonblad@0x3e42d166.adsl.cybercity.dk)
19:56.06KarlThePaganI calculated this based on the "priest mana regen model"
19:56.19KarlThePagannot based on observation / mods
19:56.29kenlyricIf I still had tier 2, I'd be very upset... when I got the 3 piece bonus it was like 40 or 50 mana/5s
19:56.49grzesieqhow much is it now?
19:56.53Saroz20
19:56.54KarlThePaganyou don't have 500 spirit ;)
19:56.55kenlyricit's a flat 20.
19:56.59grzesieqheh
19:57.18grzesieqdid the same happen to SR?
19:57.22KarlThePagansee the priest forum post ;)
19:57.27AmadeoBarbanus: It's not fixing it :(
19:57.38BarbanusAmadeo, did you relog / restart wow?
19:57.40kenlyricI mean, I understand why they did it, but they should have made it equal the output you'd get from 300 spirit.
19:57.58kenlyricyes, it happened to all the 3 piece healer bonuses.
19:58.10Rophynevcairiel: from the FloatingChatFrame.xml you can see that its OnEvent handler calls ChatFrame_OnEvent AND THEN FloatingChatFrame_OnEvent. So the execution path didn't finish right after ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler.
19:58.36Rophynevcairiel: anyway, pet bar shows after hooking ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler so I'm gonna hook it until anyone actually got problems.
19:58.59kenlyricit just means priests won't feel trapped into keeping that set bonus as they get to 70.
19:59.03AmadeoBarbanus: If I have it unchecked, my Combat Log will appear back on my main window every time I log in...if I check it, the Combat Log vanishes if I move it
19:59.04KarlThePagankenlyric - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11893046&sid=1
19:59.10AmadeoBarbanus: With relogs, yep
19:59.33KarlThePagan15% regen while casting - while entirely in the 5-sec rule -- 1 mp5 == 10.67 spirit
20:00.40Gnarfozis there a way to 'svn up' without externals?
20:00.51KarlThePaganso 20mp5 is 200 spirit not 300 :/
20:00.51kenlyricit was around 15 mana per tick, so I guess that's around 37?
20:01.01BarbanusAmadeo, try deleting your chat-cache.txt file, WTF\Account\<account name>\<realm name>\<character name> directory
20:01.12Barbanus(exit wow first)
20:01.13kenlyricwell, that's my point. It should be a flat 30-35 m/5s
20:01.20KarlThePaganit should be higher yes
20:01.35KarlThePagani think by the time ppl get 3pc trans they have 250-300 spirit
20:01.39KarlThePaganin buffs
20:01.45KarlThePaganwhich the new bonus doesn't care about
20:01.45kenlyricmeh, I got reborn as a total spirit whore.
20:01.49AntiarcGnarfoz: If the repository was checked out with externals, it'll ignore externals on subsequent updates.
20:01.54leech2kI can tlive wihtout my 3 piece trans
20:01.56leech2kI tried
20:02.00kenlyricI have 236 at level 46.
20:02.03leech2kI would need like 20+ mp5 to replace it
20:02.12GnarfozAntiarc: I was never able to check out any externals... or just one and then it would break :\
20:02.19HjalteAnyone else getting this error when trying to press the feedback submission buttons in the tbc beta? http://ace.pastey.net/3560
20:02.23kenlyricleech.. uh, that's what the set bonus gives now :)
20:02.30leech2kya
20:02.42kenlyricwas that sarcasm? I'm a bit sleepy today.
20:02.45Antiarcsvn co http://your.repo/here --ignore-externals
20:02.46leech2kthats what I mean I would need atleast that for it to worth repalceing
20:02.57kenlyricah.
20:02.59AntiarcThat works for update, too
20:03.02GnarfozAntiarc: thanks. I tried putting --ignore-externals before the repo name
20:03.03Antiarcsvn up --ignore-externals
20:03.11AntiarcMake sure your copy of SVN is up to date too.
20:03.17leech2kI have 103mp5 and still keep on 3 piece trans
20:03.19Josh_Borkebut externals are good for you!
20:03.20leech2kdoes well imo
20:03.20Gnarfozit is :)
20:03.22XuerianIt's because of bad mirrors...
20:03.29GnarfozXuerian wins.
20:03.39Gnarfozexternals are ok and stuff, but not if I can't fetch em at all
20:04.00Xuerian65.110.63.200   svn.wowace.com
20:04.02GrineExternals: Gotta catch 'em all!
20:04.03XuerianMap that <.<
20:04.27*** join/#wowace [1]Ominous (i=HydraIRC@88-109-67-134.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
20:04.32Gnarfozactually
20:04.41Gnarfozby now /files/ has updated. I'll get it from there.
20:04.43Gnarfoz-.-
20:04.50Antiarcheheh
20:05.16kenlyrici swear regenfu doesn't adjust during combat to show my mana regen is 0
20:05.27leech2khmm mine does
20:05.53leech2kwell it show my mp5 at work :-)
20:05.54kenlyricright now I get 72 per tick outside of fsr, and it just stays at 72, whether I'm casting or not.
20:06.03leech2kwierd
20:06.40leech2k72 per tick is bad are u a hunter?
20:06.42leech2klol joke
20:06.47kenlyriclevel 46.
20:06.50leech2ko
20:06.56cheershehe
20:06.59kenlyricit's pretty freaking good for level 46 :)
20:07.00cheersgood excuse ;)
20:07.08leech2kya it is
20:07.11yacoober...
20:07.16leech2kI never wored about regen until 60 lol
20:07.20yacoobwinaceupdater or wowaceupdater?
20:07.20kenlyric236 spirit, without spirit buff.
20:07.25yacoob(the latter is newer, so...)
20:07.31kenlyricit makes a huge difference grinding in shadowform.
20:07.37Antiarcwinaceupdater, I believe - wowaceupdater is a depricated name, IIRC
20:07.42leech2kI only have 244 spirit with nax gear :-)
20:07.53leech2kheavy mp5 gear though
20:07.55cheersdamn shadow priests  ;0
20:08.02yacoobAntiarc, judging by timestamps, it's the other way around
20:08.07leech2knaw that is with my heal gear though
20:08.10kenlyriclevelling = shadowform.
20:08.10Antiarc*shrug*
20:08.19kenlyricI am a healer-through and through.
20:08.26cheersjust raid buffed i sit at like 360 spir
20:08.29cheersand ~70 mp5
20:08.48Grinesomeone link meto the updater page please? :)
20:08.52Grinelink me to
20:09.01leech2khmm raid buff I owuld be ~300 spirit ~150mp5
20:09.10cheersbeefy
20:09.23leech2kthen 30% regen while csting
20:09.29leech2kfrom spirit
20:09.30kenlyricfirst time through the game I had no idea what spirit did... I use to flee from it.
20:09.40cheerslol
20:09.49leech2kspirit is still gimp imo
20:09.58cheers:shrug: it has it's place
20:10.00Gnarfozhm
20:10.03leech2keven more so that no one will have 3 peice trans anymore
20:10.08cheersbut yeah
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20:10.13cheersmp5 keeps getting better and better
20:10.28leech2kthere is just so much good mp5 gear out there and so little good spirit gear
20:10.35cheerseh
20:10.47cheersI feel like i've picked up some good pieces... faith gloves, my frigid heart...
20:10.50Stinkfotwho makes bartender again
20:10.55kenlyricmp5 gear is balanced against spirit based on some assumption of time spent in fsr.. If you can do better than that assumption, spirit is better.
20:11.24leech2krobes of the guardian saint, faith sandals, grasp of the old god....
20:11.25kenlyricI've never been able to successfully math out that assumption.
20:11.40kenlyrichmmm.. out of those items I had none of them on my old priest.
20:11.45cheersyeah, I'm firmly of the opinon my pure faith boots are better than the faith ones
20:11.53cheersand teh guardian saint dropped twice, ever for us.
20:11.54DekunaStinkfot: nevcairiel
20:11.56kenlyricI had like one piece of gear that *just* had mana regen :)
20:11.57cheersance once was on a priest who gquit
20:12.01leech2kthe had and gloves out of aq40 also have insane mp5
20:12.07StinkfotDekuna thx
20:12.09leech2komg we have had those robes drop like 20 times
20:12.12Stinkfotnevcairiel u around?
20:12.15leech2kalways for min dkp now
20:12.19cheersleech2k: lucky
20:12.27StavmarTekkub, is the low down going to work again, or is it already included in Prat or some other mod
20:12.30leech2kcheers: yeah they are pretty much as good as t3
20:12.34nevcairielStinkfot: eh?
20:12.39cheersI got my trans robes like 3 weeks ago.
20:12.40cheerso.O
20:12.42kenlyricthe neck that dropped from vael... I think I hovered around 25m/5s
20:12.46leech2ktrans never dropped for me
20:12.49cheersafter i had 2 piece faith & thaddius was on farm
20:12.51leech2kI waited months and months....
20:12.54rappoI like monkey quest as a quest objective tracker, is there any good Ace2 replacement someone can suggest?
20:12.57Stinkfotnevcairiel you getting the latest bug out soon? ;P
20:13.00leech2knever did get htem
20:13.01kenlyric5 piece bonus to trans is underrated.
20:13.08Hjalterappo: Questsfu
20:13.08nevcairielStinkfot: which?
20:13.10cheerseh
20:13.10kenlyricit + fankriss = god.
20:13.11leech2k5 piece trans in still awesome
20:13.15cheersI waer it for gluth
20:13.17cheersthat's about it.
20:13.21rappoHjalte, thanks
20:13.21leech2kI wear it for gothik
20:13.22sylvanaarStavmar: its in Prat
20:13.26Stavmarthanks
20:13.33Stinkfotnevcairiel still showing buttons in bt3 after locking them ie if i dont have anything in them
20:13.36leech2kall our priests wear 5 pieces trans for gothik
20:13.45cheersnot all our priest HAVE 5 pieces :/
20:13.50kenlyricsigh... I never made it to naxx.
20:13.59KarlThePagankenlyric - it looks like by that assumption (how much of the FSR) is based on 33%
20:14.01leech2khmm our guild pretty much requires full t2 or better to app
20:14.22KarlThePaganjust look at item budget (http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Item_Values) vs the regen model thing I posted earlier
20:14.24cheershah, we don't hve that luxury
20:14.28leech2kwe are on an old server though
20:14.34cheersBoneChewer's pretty sparce
20:14.42leech2ka release server
20:14.47KarlThePaganat least assuming priest is the baseline for that stat
20:14.47sylvanaaris there a way for an ace-module to be off by default, without calling ToggleActive in Onintitialize?
20:14.48nevcairielStinkfot: that shouldve been fixed already
20:14.56cheersyeah, but when the transfers opened up, everyone left
20:14.58Stinkfotgot the last update it's still there
20:15.07leech2ko man we get so many transfers
20:15.11cheersno way to get ahead w/ VM on the alli side
20:15.18leech2kso many people want naxx loot lol
20:15.19cheerswe're the only raiding guild horde side that didn't collapse
20:15.34Stinkfotnevcairiel this is the one i got Bartender3 - Already at rev 20590 - Skipping
20:15.35leech2kcheers: yeah guild all over have been falling apart
20:15.46kenlyricour sserver did the sensible thing... All raiding collapsed at the same time :)
20:15.50leech2keveryone figure better gear in a a month I guess
20:15.56Espastinkfot: wasn't there a "show grid" option that did that? maybe "show button" i'm not sure
20:15.56cheersyeah, but it was just horde side
20:16.05kenlyricnot a single new boss dead since december 4.
20:16.16AmadeoMy recommendation is not to spend honor at all unless you really need the upgrade to do anything
20:16.24Stinkfotespa that one should be off if it's still there
20:16.29Espaok
20:16.34nevcairielStinkfot: so whate exactyl do you do to reproduce that error?
20:16.34cheersthere's only 4 horde guilds w/ Naxx kills on the server... we're teh only ones with significant progress :/
20:16.34leech2kAmadeo: why?
20:16.42leech2kAmadeo: for the higher level stuff?
20:16.47Stinkfotnevcairiel i just logged on and it was like that
20:16.51Amadeoleech2k: There are level 70 rewards in game, and I think Blizzard has plans to add more stuff as well
20:16.53Amadeoyeah
20:16.55cheerslast kill was 12/13
20:16.55AmadeoPlus
20:16.57leech2kah
20:17.07Stinkfotalthough after unlocking and locking again all showed up, at first it wasnt quite all
20:17.12AmadeoThe greens you get early on will be almost as good, or just as good
20:17.20leech2kWe have both a horde guild and an alliace guild on our server that has cleared nax
20:17.33leech2kAmadeo: mmm... so depressing
20:17.38cheersone of the few, I guess
20:17.46ggilbertkenlyric: Hehe, we had been doing well up until now. I think we may basically be dead for the holidays
20:18.02leech2kwe are on sapphirron though no serious attempts yet
20:18.04sylvanaarnobody know?
20:18.09Amadeoleech2k: Well, not as good as Naxx gear and stuff
20:18.17Stinkfotnevcairiel gonna try something so i'll be right back
20:18.24Amadeobut better than most MC stuff, equal to some BWL stuff
20:18.29leech2kAmadeo: I hear t3 wont be replace until 70 thats a slight releif
20:18.37Amadeoyeah, for some classes anyway
20:18.48leech2kbut crafted 1h hammer with 300 +heal ....
20:18.55leech2klol
20:19.00kenlyricand that's kinda questionable. You'll keep them more for the set bonuses than the actual stats.
20:19.03CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20606 10Bartender3/ (5 files):
20:19.03CIA-17Bartender3: Keybindings
20:19.03CIA-17- back to dewdrop, people just did not find the options in the UI .. well whatever :)
20:19.03CIA-17- additionally to the dewdrop, there will be a comfy click binding tool like trinity or bongos have it, but its not done yet.
20:19.07Amadeoiirc, those items require raiding to create anyway
20:19.12kenlyricwith the stam buffs on TBC gear, I don't see how warriors can stay in t3.
20:19.12KarlThePaganI'm heaing similar... lv 67-69 you might find something to replace various naxx pieces
20:19.16Rophyhow do I log into blizzard forum? after I entered id/pw it shows a "Select Character" page but I can't do anything there.
20:19.18KarlThePaganno direct experience with it tho
20:19.27ggilbertReally, Tier2 is staying pretty useful as well.
20:19.28Stinkfotack getting that update then lol :P
20:19.36AmadeoRophy: It should show pictures of characters to click
20:19.41leech2kmeh atleast I wont have to worry about gear for atleast the first 5 levels
20:19.43Rophyit doesn't show anything to me :\
20:19.51TullerO
20:19.52Rophytired IE6 and Firefox
20:19.55ggilbertI got to 70 and only had a handful of items that were clear upgrades, even discounting bonuses.
20:20.00AmadeoRophy: Strange...
20:20.03TullerI'm glad I don't have to wait until 70 to upgrade my characters :)
20:20.06leech2kggilbert: What class?
20:20.08ck|ganniaUF Range Check works as designed, doesn't it?
20:20.09kenlyricpeople are lamenting that t1 gear gets replaced right at the beginning, but it's not like *every* piece gets replaced at once.
20:20.10ggilbertMage
20:20.21leech2kwhat does auf range check do?
20:20.29Amadeokenlyric: No, but pretty fast if you have crappy gear :)
20:20.36kenlyricTuller, yeah, that's the best thing about my new priest... every freaking quest will be an awesome upgrade :)
20:20.40AntiarcT1 gets replaced pretty quickly.
20:20.41ck|gannileech2k
20:20.43AntiarcT2+, not so much.
20:20.50leech2kck|ganni: ?
20:21.02ggilbertThere were several pieces that were about equivalent, but most of the stuff I ran into was comparable to my gear or more of a sidegrade
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20:21.05ck|gannileech2k: fading units that are out of range (sorry for first post)
20:21.07cheerskenlyric: lol
20:21.14XuerianAny suggestions as to how to visually indicate BoP/BoE/BoU in XLoot and XLoot Group?
20:21.24leech2kck|ganni: thx I will have to try taht one too :-)
20:21.33CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20607 10Bartender3/Defaults.lua: Bartender3: woops, forgot defaults for bindings
20:21.42AmadeoFor example, my Warlock is wearing most of these in TBC - http://www.thottbot.com/beta?set=555
20:21.45ck|gannileech2k: tell me if it works for you... ^^
20:21.57leech2kck|ganni: wont be for anouter 5 hours lol
20:22.05kenlyricgod, that's sex.
20:22.09kenlyricis there a priest version?
20:22.12ck|gannibetter start raiding earlier then. ;)
20:22.20Amadeokenlyric: Those are for anyone
20:22.24nevcairielStinkfot: i just logged in with a char which never had BT3 running before, and i dont see anything weird.
20:22.26Amadeokenlyric: Just cloth, no requirements
20:22.32kenlyricmeh.
20:22.40kenlyricstamina can bite my shiny metal ass
20:22.43leech2kAmadeo: so mcuh stam
20:22.46Stinkfotnevcairiel hmm wierd
20:22.46Amadeoyeah, haha
20:22.51Stinkfoti'll look into it a bit more
20:22.53kenlyricthat's warlock gear, and only warlock gear.
20:22.54leech2kgogo soullink
20:23.05AmadeoStamina is good for everyone :)
20:23.07leech2kmeh good for shadowpriest pvp too
20:23.18leech2kbut there is probaly better
20:23.23Amadeothough Warlocks need it more, for mana
20:23.28leech2kyep
20:23.30kenlyricyeah, until he casts one spell and has no mana left.
20:23.36phyberdear god.  this is pissing me off.
20:23.36phyber[2006/12/14 20:23:20-1071-x5]: Tablet-2.0: Cannot call method SpamSingleScore on a non-table:
20:23.43AmadeoNetherweave Cloth drops like CRAZY
20:23.49ggilbertyes
20:23.57phyberbut that function exists, and I've called functions like this a ton of times before >_<
20:24.22[Liquidor]How do I totally massacre, destroy, ruin, remove, garbage a table?
20:24.41kergothremove all references to it
20:24.58kenlyricis the netherweave crafted?
20:25.09[Liquidor]Hmm it's local within a function but what should I write at the end to remove it?
20:25.15kergothnothing
20:25.19[Liquidor]ok
20:25.44leech2khmm so what is the correct way to make externals work again with svn?
20:25.55leech2ksince all my external on svn.wowace.com seem to be broke
20:26.20CIA-1703sorren * r20608 10SorrenTimers/ (. Core.lua abilities-hunter.lua):
20:26.20CIA-17SorrenTimers:
20:26.20CIA-17- Shoulda fixed a small error that pops up every now and then
20:26.20CIA-17- Should be pointing at AceLocal-2.2 instead of 2.0 for externals
20:26.26AmadeoWhat's the best PC-to-PC VoIP software? I'm not all that crazy about Skype anymore
20:26.39leech2kI just use teamspeak :-)
20:26.41leech2kor vent
20:27.04vid`vent pretty much has the best voice quality
20:27.09SachsAgreed.
20:27.14vid`teamspeak isnt bad either, but vent has much better VQ
20:27.17kergothwhat codec is vent using?
20:27.20leech2kteamspeak allow free servers though
20:27.21kergothspeex?
20:27.23vid`i used to use TS back int he day for UO and shadowbane
20:27.23cheersdepends
20:27.26leech2kvent has more codec and options though
20:27.27cheersit can use speex
20:27.31cheersand has to if you want mac users to have access
20:27.32vid`speex/gsm/etc
20:27.34leech2komg shadowbane ruled!
20:27.34cheersbut it can use others
20:27.41leech2kvid what server u on?
20:27.51CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20609 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Core.lua): Bartender3: fixed random errors with profile changing
20:27.53AmadeoI don't like the way Vent handles transmit/not transmitting on automatic
20:28.15leech2kcheers u on mac?
20:28.18cheersyup
20:28.20leech2kah
20:28.26leech2kteamspeak 4tw lo
20:28.28leech2klol
20:28.30cheersindeed
20:28.46leech2knaw mac just need better codec support probaly some copyright/ip thing
20:28.52AmadeoI like Teamspeak so much more than Ventrilo
20:28.58Amadeobut I agree that Vent sounds better
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20:29.16cheersI dunno how it all works, so I couldn't say
20:29.24leech2kthere needs to be a nice opensource teamspeak/vent clone
20:29.37leech2kI thought about writing one but I am to lazy
20:29.41ggilbertAsterisk? :p
20:29.49leech2klol thats more of a pbx...
20:29.50kergothhehe
20:29.52cheershehe
20:29.52AmadeoYou can set Teamspeak up to Speex 25.9 Kbit
20:30.00AmadeoI'm not sure what Vent uses
20:30.13leech2kya not sure but I think it something slightly better
20:30.23ggilbertIt seems like it'd be reasonably simple to set up ventrilo like functionality with it.
20:30.25leech2kmaybe why vent isnt free
20:30.45leech2kggilbert: it would be just about writing a nice ui for wow noobs :-)
20:30.51leech2kclient side
20:31.10kergoththere are plenty of voip clients that could connect to asterisk for that, plenty of whicha re easy to use, i'm certain
20:31.25leech2kyeah I havent' really looked into it
20:31.58phybercan anyone who knows Tablet please take a look at TopScoreFu.lua and see why I can't call "SpamSingleScore" as a 'func' from my tablet anymore.
20:32.08leech2kI ran asterisk at home for a little while  on my linux ansering machine :-)
20:32.12vid`yea i liked teamspeak better
20:32.13AmadeoI'm googling and reading a few people say that Ventrilo uses the GSM codec
20:32.13phyberI'm really not getting it, and I can't spot any typos.
20:32.20vid`but again SQ isnt as good
20:32.28vid`i also like how vent has builtin support for logitech g15 keyboard
20:32.36vid`it shows who is talking in the vent chan on the LCD
20:32.38vid`:)
20:32.41vid`good in full screen games
20:32.45yacoobgaaa!
20:32.49leech2kI like how vent lets u adjust volume in its config seperate from windows
20:32.50ggilbertThe thing I like the most about teamspeak is their licensing
20:32.54yacoobI want 'get parent frame' from visor-gui back! :(
20:33.02leech2kso u dont change ur settings for every piece of software at once
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20:33.05Solehi
20:33.08vid`yea leech
20:33.20yacoobhow do I find what is the parrent of active frame? :/
20:33.33kergothggilbert: is the oe source mirror still up?
20:33.37kergothif so, whats the url
20:33.50Goebmaybe /print GetMouseFocus():GetParent():GetName()
20:33.56ggilberthttp://oesources.org. It's not been updated recently thogh
20:34.08ggilbertRP told me about a new feature that should make it easier to maintain
20:34.12ggilbertI just need to get unlazy
20:34.16kergothwhat feature?
20:34.28Goebyacoob- or... just /print GetMouseFocus() and it'll list everything about the frame under the mouse
20:35.09ggilbertkergoth: There's apparently a flag to tell it to fetch all source and touch anything source files that are needed, but didn't need fetching
20:35.09Sole~seen ckknight
20:35.39purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 52s ago, saying: 'cncfanatics, no.'.
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20:36.05ggilbertI just built a copy of monotone, haven't tried i yt
20:36.44AmadeoMaybe I'll go old school and start using Roger Wilco
20:37.46Stinkfotnevcairiel nope still there :/ and i made sure i got the latest from files
20:38.11Stinkfotcould it be some other addon that does something? i did install like 2 new ones
20:38.28kergothroger wilco.. reminds me of space quest
20:39.18yacoobGoeb, that does the trick.
20:39.20yacoobThanks
20:39.30yacoobnow, why does hiding BuffFrame doesn't hide BuffFrame1..n?
20:39.32yacoob:)
20:39.45kergothmm triple venti hazelnut cappuccino makes me happy
20:40.19Stinkfottesting the newly upped version now
20:40.34Amadeokergoth: I miss Space Quest
20:40.35thaliecappuccino? i hate you ... now i want one
20:40.45kergothAmadeo: me too :(
20:40.50thalie~smite kergoth
20:40.55purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves kergoth from crown to sole.
20:40.56Heriolets all go to get a coffee
20:40.58AmadeoPolice Quest was fun, too
20:41.01kergoththe narrator in space quest 4, the talkie version, was hilarious.  occasionally i hear him doing stuff on the radio
20:41.03Amadeoand early Kings Quest
20:41.24kergothhehe, police quest.. in map mode your car was like 3 pixels long and one pixel wide
20:41.34Amadeohahaha yeah
20:41.52AmadeoI remember that part where the cop pulls you over and you're drunk
20:42.40thalielol
20:42.42AmadeoNobody wants to admit it, but Leisure Suit Larry in those days was hilarious :)
20:42.49kergothhell yes
20:42.50kenlyricI'll admit it.
20:43.07Stinkfotnevcairiel nope still there :( and every setting is as it should be
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20:43.22thalie~ping haarm
20:43.23purlpong haarm
20:43.48kergothi remember the dog pissing on larry's leg out in front of the bar in larry 1
20:43.49nevcairielStinkfot: disable all addons except BT3
20:43.53Stinkfotk
20:43.57thaliehaha me too kergoth
20:43.58haarmsi[
20:44.01haarmoops
20:44.02haarmsup?
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20:44.11thalieaperture, is it working ok in 2.01?
20:44.14haarmsure
20:44.16thalieok
20:44.16thalie:)
20:44.17haarmi use it :)
20:44.20thaliesaw an error report on forum
20:44.24haarmoh ?
20:44.25thaliedunno if someone is on crack or what
20:44.27thaliehttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2056.0
20:44.28haarmlink meh
20:44.32thaliealready done amigl
20:44.34thalieamigo
20:44.52haarmdunno how there can be an error, tbh, it's so basic
20:44.54thaliei dunno, wtf ever - i wanna get rid of skinner... freakin abomination
20:45.11AmadeoI also miss Descent :(
20:45.16thaliei want the old oskin back
20:45.19thalie~beg haste
20:45.20haarmAperture.lua:1: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: AceDB-2.0: AceDB-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0
20:45.35haarmaha, externals! i asked these veteran mofos, but they said it was fine
20:45.39haarmblame everyone else, not me
20:45.43haarmi'll update
20:45.47thaliekewl
20:46.09kergothAmadeo: i had a spaceorb, one o fthose 6 axis controllers.. sooo nice in descent
20:46.18CIA-1703neriak * r20610 10Fence/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:46.18CIA-17Fence:
20:46.18CIA-17- added auto-buyout option
20:46.18CIA-17- centralized some locales to Core
20:46.18CIA-17- fixed defaults to not override existing settings
20:46.29thalie~beg haste
20:46.30purlACTION drops to his knees and pleads with haste
20:46.35Stinkfotnevcairiel hmm went away now.. hmm could it be cycirkled?
20:46.39Stinkfoti'll test
20:46.46hasteshrugs...
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20:46.49thalielol
20:47.51cncfanaticssomeone pinged me ?
20:48.06haarmError: Commit failed (details follow):  
20:48.06haarmError: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/4d845dc6-f6b0-8148-a73f-a2d921e495e5': Could not parse response status line. (http://svn.wowace.com)  
20:48.16haarmok..
20:48.17Stinkfotnevcairiel sorry it's cycirkled screwing up :P
20:48.27vhaarrKemayo: hehe, you're welcome :)
20:48.49haarmanyone else having commit problems?
20:49.02phyberhaarm: commit to the right place, it helps.
20:49.06phyberdev. not svn.
20:49.07thaliehehe
20:49.08haarmwhich is the right place
20:49.15haarmwell i committed to dev last time
20:49.37krunk-Is there an incombat event? I see in bartender he uses PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED as an in combat marker. Is this because a specific one doesn't exist? (I didn't see it right off hand on wowwiki list)
20:49.54haarmwhere can i edit the commit url?
20:50.51krunk-ah found it
20:51.02krunk-wonder why the bartender guy uses regen :P
20:52.15Benumbedhaving brain fart, how do I call function with variable, like test_variable();
20:52.32krunk-test_variable(myVar)?
20:52.53nevcairielkrunk-: because regen is the last even fired before the lockdown. as stated by slouken on the forums.
20:53.05BenumbedI have 3 functions, test_1, test_2, test_3
20:53.08nevcairieldunno if its true tho
20:53.11krunk-nevcairiel: I just found that answer too :P
20:53.32Benumbedvariable changes numbers right but cant call that function =x
20:53.35Mavackquestion UseContainerItem() is blocked by the UI what can be used instead?
20:53.46krunk-nevcairiel: too much learning today, I'm going to have to kill some brain cells tonight to restore balance
20:54.25CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20612 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/SWStatsFu.lua: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: Hide profile sharing when not grouped
20:54.25CIA-1703rophy 07Rophy * r20611 10ParserLib/Parser-2.0/Parser-2.0.lua:
20:54.25CIA-17Parser-2.0 (don't use it, explodes):
20:54.25CIA-17- Changed back to 'passing a table' approach, which passes a read-only table.
20:54.25CIA-17- Reverted back to the old TestPatterns() method.
20:54.53Benumbedtest_variable(myVar) didnt work =\
20:55.39Aelielthis is probably a daft question, but, what does Fence actually -do-? "An AddOn to make the life of each fence easier." doesn't tell me much
20:55.51Benumbedvariable is called channel and in which it should be test_channel(); but it trys to call that function instead of the variable
20:56.48grzesieqanyone got that wowace portage to work?
21:01.07nevcairielStinkfot: okay i will try to fix the cyCircled plugin
21:01.47sylvanaarok a more specific question, if you have a module with a prototype OnInitialize, do you hvae to explicitly call it with self.super.OnInitialize(self)
21:02.02thaliewhat's the name of the mod which replaces the combat log with little numbers and icons like a simple SCT?
21:02.38Miles~wtf FCOL
21:02.39AelielEavesDrop?
21:02.44thalieeavesdrop!  thank you
21:02.44kergothsylvanaar: prototype oninitialize? then you wouldnt want to call the superclass's oninitialize, you'd want to call the superclass's prototype's oninitialize, no?
21:03.03kergothmeh, sleepy
21:03.56CIA-1703haarm * r20613 10Aperture/:
21:03.56CIA-17Aperture:
21:03.56CIA-17- The people in #wowace lied to me about which externals I needed :(
21:04.09CIA-17ow
21:04.16[Liquidor]How do I detect that a BF has ended?
21:04.19thaliebtw ... looks like a mirror is out of sync
21:04.30haarmthalie, try it now
21:05.18Josh_Borkepastamancer: ping
21:05.21Aelielrofl, nice comment :p
21:07.23pastamancerJosh_Borke: ping
21:07.36Deviadany news on cryolysis?
21:07.38Josh_Borkeanyone have info on this unit=mouseover business that lets you sort frames while in combat and use a unit=mouseover macro?
21:07.40Deviadis it ready?
21:07.47Josh_Borkepastamancer: you wrote the current zip script, right?
21:07.53kenlyricJosh_Borke... expect blizz to nerf it :)
21:07.57kenlyricbut yes, it's true.
21:07.58Josh_Borkekenlyric: as they should
21:08.05kenlyricyou essentially have emergency monitor again.
21:08.09CIA-1703Tristan * r20614 10FuBar_TinyPadFu/Core.lua:
21:08.09CIA-17FuBar_TinyPadFu:
21:08.09CIA-17- Modified handling of clicks on the tablet
21:08.21kenlyricand a decursive dropdown list.
21:08.26Josh_Borkeso non-secure frames allow a unit attribute to be set? or is unit=mouseover translating to TargetByName?
21:08.36kenlyricthe question is... will the nerf target=mouseover, or dynamic lists?
21:08.50CIA-1703Tristan * r20615 10RaidSpy/ (Localization.lua RaidSpy.toc):
21:08.50CIA-17RaidSpy:
21:08.50CIA-17- Edited toc
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21:09.00Josh_Borkethey'll nerf neither.  they'll make is so that unit=mouseover isn't evaluated for non-secure frames
21:09.04kenlyricit's not unit-mouseover. iit's target=mouseover.
21:09.06[Liquidor]Does CT got a bugtracker?
21:09.09Josh_Borkeerm, yes, that too
21:09.34pastamancerJosh_Borke: I did
21:09.34kergoth[Liquidor]: the obvious question is, why are you asking that in here? :P
21:09.45Josh_Borkepastamancer: still have the link for it?  i'd like to use it for my own svn
21:09.45[Liquidor]Where else to ask? :>
21:10.12Josh_Borke[Liquidor]: try #wowi-lounge, cide hangs out there
21:10.13kergoththe curse channel, the wowi channel, the worldofwar.net channel (though its on another network), ....
21:10.16Josh_Borkealso, did you check their website?
21:10.52[Liquidor]They "run in low bandwidth mode"
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21:11.00[Liquidor]Not much to check
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21:12.12DeviadAny news from the author of cryolysis?
21:12.50DeviadI mean the remaker
21:13.21pastamancerJosh_Borke: http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/makemirror.pl.txt
21:13.34Josh_Borkepastamancer: thanks
21:14.05thaliejosh - i don't think you can use something like eemon to target, even with that target=mouseover thing
21:14.16AntiarcYou can't.
21:14.47Josh_Borkethen what's the hub-bub about on the forums?
21:14.47thaliethen why are you saying "we essentially have emergency monitor again", kenlyric
21:14.59kenlyricbecause you can.
21:15.00thalieit's just like clique
21:15.13kenlyricmake a window that sorts by health.
21:15.19thaliehave you done this
21:15.22kenlyrichover your mouse over the top, and spam your macro.
21:15.27AntiarcYou can't do that.
21:15.31Josh_BorkeAntiarc: have you tried?
21:15.36AntiarcYou can't change a frame's unit attribute once you enter combat.
21:15.40thaliei agree with antiarc, you cannot do that - it's still a target
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21:15.40kenlyricit's all over the forums that's exactly what you can do.
21:15.43Josh_BorkeAntiarc: they are non-secure frames
21:15.51kenlyricyou cannot click on them.
21:16.03AntiarcHuh. How's that work with non-secure frames?
21:16.09kenlyricbut you can use a target=mouseover macro
21:16.42pastamancerheh, I'm sure that'll get fixed quickly
21:16.46thalie"it's all over the forums" - lots of things are all over the forums
21:16.47AntiarcForums link please?
21:16.49kenlyricyes, I'm sure.
21:17.14Talyn600myeah my raid group is using a mouseover decurse macro now
21:17.23thalienothing wrong with that
21:17.24thalieimho
21:17.29sbuTalyn600m: wtf? :o
21:17.45sbuTalyn600m: source?
21:17.52thalieit's not like you're auto-selecting using lua
21:17.57Josh_Borkehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218778&sid=1&pageNo=2
21:18.12kenlyricyou don't do that with emergency monitor, either.
21:18.24kenlyricand i never did that with decursive... i used that little drop down list.
21:19.49kenlyricDayne's post sums it up pretty nicely.
21:19.55Talyn600m<PROTECTED>
21:20.30kenlyricessentially, they'll just need to disable target=mouseover for non-secure windows.
21:21.38AntiarcOr disable the whole attribute system for non-secure stuff.
21:21.45AntiarcIs there a reason to use attributes for non-secure frames?
21:21.46CIA-1703shiftos * r20616 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (ClosetGnome_Mount.lua ClosetGnome_Mount.toc): ClosetGnome_Mount - added translation to spanish
21:23.15Josh_Borkehm
21:23.33Josh_Borkei agree antiarc
21:23.41kenlyricthat's beyond my field of experience :)
21:23.53Josh_Borkethat's why i was curious about more specifics
21:24.02Josh_Borkeif it's that you can SetAttribute on the frames then it is an easy fix
21:24.10kergothso with that macro you can use eemon/squishy to heal?
21:24.11kergothinteresting
21:24.14Josh_Borkeif it's something else, seems it'll make it much harder
21:24.16thalieyeah
21:24.16thalielol
21:24.17Josh_Borkekergoth: yep
21:24.21thalieis squishy actually working in 2.01?
21:24.25thalieie displaying
21:26.20thaliewell that's a major oversight for sure
21:26.21thalieahha
21:26.30thalieknew they'd make one somewhere, didn't take long to find it
21:26.37Josh_Borkepastamancer: does your zip script include externals?
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21:27.07kenlyricI just figured people would have to work a littler harder to bypass it :)
21:27.09thaliehaha
21:27.29[Liquidor]Elkano: ping
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21:27.43Elkanopong?
21:27.44kenlyricBlizz tends to overreact to stuff, which is why I'm slightly afraid they'll just zap target=mouseover.
21:28.47cheers|lunchkenlyric: what're you using mouseover for?
21:29.15thaliedecursing
21:29.18kenlyricnothing, yet, but I intend to use them primarily in  a pvp/world setting.
21:29.28kenlyrichovering over player avatars and casting.
21:29.32pastamancerJosh_Borke: it's magic
21:29.54Josh_Borkepastamancer:  i see it says they must be checked-out with --ignore-externals :-P
21:30.02pastamancerJosh_Borke: yes
21:30.17Josh_Borkeblah, i can just ignore that
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21:31.12Silainhi mates, can someone help me with paging feature of bartender3? is not a bug, I need help :)
21:31.32Mikmano, we can't :(
21:31.53SachsSilain, you're that guy from that place, right?
21:31.59Silainlol
21:32.06thaliewtb: someone to beat up svn.wowace.com mirrors
21:32.22SilainI configured my bar1 to switch to bar 6 when I'm in shadowform and that works
21:32.32Xuerianthalie: Problems with externals?
21:32.42thaliethat should be my emulate.
21:32.53thaliepurl, emulate thalie is the externals are fucked again...
21:32.54purlthalie: please, watch your language.
21:32.56thaliehaha
21:32.57Elkano~poke [Liquidor]
21:32.59purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind [Liquidor], pokes [Liquidor] repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
21:32.59Xuerian:P
21:33.01CIA-1703rabbit * r20617 10BigWigs/ (14 files in 5 dirs): BigWigs: Add a new ValidateEngageSync to the core module prototype that validates a BossEngaged sync against reverse translations as well.
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21:33.10thaliepurl, emulate thalie is the externals are f***ed up again... help!
21:33.11purlthalie: okay
21:33.16Silainwhat I want is having bar 1 shown and bar 6 hide while I'm not in shadowform, and bar 1 hide and 6 shown while I'm in shadowform. any suggestion? :)
21:33.19[Liquidor]Elkano: Need some info about Glory
21:33.20Josh_Borkepurl, forget emulate thalie
21:33.20purli forgot emulate thalie, Josh_Borke
21:33.25XuerianAdd                   65.110.63.200   svn.wowace.com                  to windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
21:33.45Josh_BorkeSilain: don't think it's possible while in combat
21:33.49thalie:p josh
21:33.57[Liquidor]Elkano: string.find(string.lower(text), string.lower(VICTORY_TEXT0)) -- where is VICTORY_TEXT0 and 1 set?
21:34.22cheersJosh_Borke: shouldn't it be possible to switch based on stance, like warriors & rogues do?
21:34.25Stavmardoes anyone else see an error with autobar when you have a button that nothing fills? It seems to be a GetItem Count error?
21:34.32Silainit is a stance for bartender 3 :09
21:34.34Silain:)
21:34.34snirkswhich addon looks the most as PerfectRaid atm`?
21:34.43Josh_Borkewell, if it's a stance, then it should be doable
21:34.47Elkano[Liquidor] maybe GlobalStrings.lua?
21:34.56rw3Anyone have any tips how to generate text on actionbar buttons? (DPS/avg. dmg)?
21:35.04snirksTuller: are you here mate?
21:35.05Silainye, but I really don't know how this paging feature works
21:35.10Tullersnirks: yes
21:35.12[VM]AusomeOh no :(
21:35.21cheersJosh_Borke: yeah, SF counts as a stance for macros so I assume it would for this
21:35.21Josh_Borkerw3: why on an action bar button?
21:35.22[VM]AusomeDid they broke double-binding with Bartender3? :(
21:35.34Hjaltesnirks: ag_unitframes has a raid layout that looks somewhat like perfectraid
21:35.48nevcairielSilain: do /bt3 bar1 paging stance shadowform 6
21:35.49snirksTuller: do you think you can incorporate cooldown on your bars?
21:35.52snirksHjalte: thanks
21:35.57thalieomnicc works fine
21:36.02rw3Josh_Borke like TheoryCraft.. so you can see average damage on the tooltips
21:36.03rw3of spells
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21:36.12Tulleromnicc works on everything :P
21:36.13Josh_Borkerw3: you want that put on the buttons?
21:36.17kergothrw3: perhaps look at how lern2count puts its counts on the buttons
21:36.19Tullerat least, everything with a cooldown
21:36.20rw3yeah
21:36.29Silainnevcairiel thanks I think I've got it
21:36.31Silainonly 1 thing
21:36.37snirksTuller: it shows the cd on the bars?
21:36.38Silainnow the bars switches by themselves
21:36.41thalieya snirks
21:36.44Tullersnirks: yes
21:36.47Silainit is possible to have 1 hide and one shown?
21:36.48snirksok, ill give it a try
21:37.09nevcairielSilain: no thats not possible
21:37.14nevcairielSilain: is changing so bad?
21:37.15rw3Well imo it's pretty nifty to have the buttons display AVG dmg.
21:37.21rw3kergoth: will check it out then
21:37.29Silainhmm nev maybe I got it...
21:37.32snirkshowever, im a tank (fairly new, but gotten t2 equivalent gear and tanked in aq40 now - used to be shaman). anyways back to point, as a warrior, do you think only cd as number on the bars is enough?
21:37.36kergothdont suppose its possible for bar1 to switch pages based on shift/ctrl being held, the way bartender2_pagemaster used to
21:37.46snirksor should i use something like coolDown (which im using atm)
21:37.48SilainI think I'm lacking of explaining correct myself or what I want tho :P
21:37.50nevcairielkergoth: it is
21:38.02snirksim thinking of omnicc to get less clutter on my screen
21:38.05NeriakTuller: nice job on vBagnon. however there's one thing major annoying: when you for eg. split a stack, the bag slots are moving dynamically so that you always have to move back to the slot you were splitting the stack from. it wanders :)
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21:38.08Pkekyoanyone know what might've caused the sudden dissapearance of all my FuBar plugin during a relog?
21:38.09kergothcool, is that functionality built in?
21:38.14nevcairielkergoth: /bt3 bar1 paging modifier shift <target-page>
21:38.17kergothneat
21:38.19kergoththanks nev
21:38.22rw3kergoth: Looks pretty simple. Thanks :P
21:38.40TullerNeriak: add empty slots to your bag :P
21:38.41NeriakTuller:I can't remember the original Bagnon was doing that
21:38.57vhaarrPkekyo: Are you on a taxi?
21:39.27EyeOfHellAny experience LUA programmer who can hint me with usage of 'this' keyword? Have tried LUA 5.1 help, no luck :(. What exactly does it refers to ?
21:39.28kenlyricin case anyone wondered :) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56218778&pageNo=2&sid=1#29
21:39.34NeriakTuller: hm I'll see. it's hard to configure anyway since only 2 categories are working on german clients :)
21:39.48TullerNeriak: get the new version :P
21:39.48Josh_BorkeEyeOfHell: it refers to the object that is currently executing
21:40.01TullerNeriak: the majority of categories in it should be localized
21:40.05Neriaktuller: downloaded it, but didn't activate yet hehe
21:40.07XuerianEyeOfHell: Most often seen in widget event handlers, like OnClick.
21:40.14NeriakTuller:trying now
21:40.40Stavmarweird question can you run oRA MT windows with CTRA?
21:40.42EyeOfHellXuerian: Like this: object = {}; object.func = function() this.a = 1; end ?
21:41.09Pkekyono, I'm not vhaarr
21:41.10XuerianEyeOfHell: Listen to Josh_Borke, I was just adding onto his statement :p
21:41.29vhaarrPkekyo: There's a failsafe that they should appear after 10 seconds if they did not initially.
21:41.31XuerianEyeOfHell: Anyway, when using AceOO it's self.a = 1 (semicolon not required)
21:41.35vhaarrPkekyo: are they still not showing?
21:41.52NeriakTuller: thanks god, it's all fixed :) not sure if all the categories are working but at least stuff don't jump around hehe
21:41.57EyeOfHellJosh_Borke: Like this: object = {}; object.func = function() this.a = 1; end ?
21:42.01Pkekyowas sitting around in stonard afk when it logged out, when I logged back in half a minute later they were gone...that's 10min ago
21:42.03cheersace renamed 'this'?
21:42.09Josh_BorkeEyeOfHell: not quite.  'this' is defined (possibly by blizzard) when each function is called, referring to the object (almost always a frame) that is responsible for the function
21:42.12yacoobto 'that', yes :)
21:42.18vhaarrPkekyo: alright, then there's probably a bug blocking it from loading
21:42.19Silainthank you guys I got it :) nice job with these mods, they're imba.
21:42.23vhaarrPkekyo: /bugsack show session
21:42.27cheers:P
21:42.30TullerNeriak: you've got 93 to mess around with :)
21:43.06Pkekyovhaarr: "Type '/help' for a listing of a few commands." was the result of that
21:43.12vhaarrPkekyo: /buggrabber
21:43.21EyeOfHellAh. So if object is mine, it's like: object = {}; object.func = function() this = object; this.a = 1; end ?
21:43.29vhaarrPkekyo: I'm assuming you have both BugGrabber and BugSack, obviously.
21:44.03Josh_BorkeEyeOfHell: except tables won't have 'this' defined
21:44.03Pkekyoapparently not
21:44.21kergoththis discussion with EyeOfHell is exactly why i think people should learn lua outside of wow first
21:44.27Pkekyonever even heard of it before
21:44.31vhaarrPkekyo: Then I have no idea :)
21:44.47cheerskergoth: 'this' isn't a language construct?
21:44.56kergothcheers: right
21:44.56cheerser, I mean it's not a native lua thing?
21:45.07EyeOfHellJosh_Borke: Thanks. I was misleaded that 'this' is something language-given, like in C++ :). Must i care about pointers or references while doing object.this = object ? Or is LUA take care about optimization for me?
21:45.09krunk-is there a way to make my error frames larger so I can see the whole error message?
21:45.09Pkekyomeh, the bar itself is still there, but the plugins are simply not active, and I can't activate them
21:45.14kergoththis in wow is just a global that blizz code sets
21:45.22cheerskergoth: aaah
21:45.31cheerskergoth: is there a 'self' type thing, in lua?
21:45.32Xuerianlike "arg1" and "arg2"
21:45.38kergothyes, and event.. disgusting
21:45.39Josh_Borkebtw, anyone come up with a use for the new threads?
21:45.39krunk-cheers: self
21:45.47kergothyou mean coroutines?
21:45.49cheerskrunk-: too easy ;)
21:45.50Xuerian~xuerian
21:45.52purlACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random.
21:45.52Josh_Borkeyes!
21:45.58kergothcoroutines are not threads
21:46.04Josh_Borkewell, i know
21:46.12krunk-cheers: the WelcomeHome tut will clear up some easy questions like that :)
21:46.16kergoththey're useful for lots of things
21:46.19Josh_Borkebut they are threadlike to me, and you knew what i was talking about :-D
21:46.20kergothyou can use them for custom iterators
21:46.23kergothchunked processing
21:46.25kergothetc
21:46.27kergothbut they're so heavy :(
21:46.35cheerskrunk-: I'm elbow-deep in Obj-C right now... i was just interested in the conversation ;)
21:46.44cheersyou're right though, I should RTFM first ;)
21:46.46kergothhere's a good example.. if you wanted to recursively traverse the entire global env table
21:46.52kergothyou get disconnected before you'd ever finish
21:47.02kergothcoroutines would be a good easy way to halt and resume processing
21:47.06Josh_BorkeEyeOfHell: what do you mean about caring about pointers or references?
21:47.12TullerTekkub: I'm guessing your googlecode stuff is about as good as I'm going to get for usage of dongle, isn't it? :)
21:47.47EyeOfHellJosh_Borke: I mean, if i do object.this = object, it will not create a COPY of an entire object as it's field ? :)
21:47.59Josh_BorkeEyeOfHell: no, it's just a reference
21:48.00krunk-or maybe is error output dumped into some kind of log file I can tail? The ui error frame cuts off the errors
21:48.08XuerianEyeOfHell: It's a reference until proven copy.
21:48.13EyeOfHellJosh_Borke: Good. Thanks a lot.
21:48.19cheersit seems ... wrong, to assign to a this object o.O
21:48.28EyeOfHellXuerian: 'Proven copy' ?
21:48.35Josh_Borkei believe strings, tables, and frames are the only things that actually take up lots of space  someone please correct me if i'm wrong
21:48.39XuerianEyeOfHell: I was joking. "Innocent till proven guilty" :p
21:48.42thaliedont listen to xuerian
21:48.48thalie~emulate xuerian
21:48.50purlI have no idea why it's broken.
21:48.50XuerianHush you <.<
21:48.53Xuerian>.<
21:48.57thaliesee?  even purl knows
21:49.02cheerslol
21:49.10kergoth"frames" -> table and userdata.  strings, tables, userdata would be more correct
21:49.12EyeOfHellcheers: Why ? If object has some non-conflict long global name like MyAddon_MiniMapButton, 'this' would shorten the code a lot. And it's self-commented too.
21:49.55cheersEyeOfHell: my background is all C-based stuff. you can't reassign self... it's just the instance of the object you're writing the method on
21:50.02Josh_Borkeindeed kergoth :-)
21:50.08cheerswell
21:50.13krunk-I would think assigning to a this object could get you in trouble
21:50.20cheersexactly
21:50.35kergoth'this' is weak blizzard crap.  use self.
21:50.38krunk-depending on how the this pointer is handled.
21:50.46EyeOfHellcheers: As i just discovered, LUA don't have a 'this' keyword. So, basically, it's a variable inside an object that works as a short and self-expalining aliace.
21:50.49kergothfoo:bar() passes foo as the first argument, named self.
21:50.49Josh_Borkeexcept self isn't defined for not oo code, right?
21:51.01kergothEyeOfHell: ehh
21:51.03XuerianWhy would it need to be?
21:51.12XuerianSelf -> Reference to the object.
21:51.12kergothclearly you're assuming that lua's lack of this means it lacks a self in general
21:51.15Xueriano.0
21:51.15kergoththats not correct, eye
21:51.19kergothXuerian: :)
21:51.20thalie'this' is weak blizzard crap.  <cheer>
21:51.26cheershaha
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21:51.51cheersworld
21:51.56AntiarcEyeOfHell: I think you're looking for "self"
21:51.57cheersand with that i"m going to rowans office to watch the wow trailer
21:51.58Antiarchttp://ace.pastey.net/3565
21:52.01krunk-sounds like someone in bliz was having aneurisms over not having a this pointer and stuck some ad hoc alias in
21:52.04Josh_Borkeoh dear, another female coder
21:52.06thalie~wave cheers
21:52.07purlBye, cheers
21:52.11XuerianCheers, cheers!
21:52.18thaliegroan
21:52.22Xuerian:3
21:52.26thalieahha
21:52.26EyeOfHellkergoth: you mean to use just a variable name 'self' becouse it's more oblivious / explaining, or is it some predefined stuff called 'self' in WoW LUA? Or is it some non-conflict stuff ?
21:52.28krunk-whose a female coder?
21:52.34kergothit isnt WOW LUA
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21:52.35krunk-They don't exisst
21:52.35kergothits lua.
21:52.39kergothperiod
21:52.41kergothfunction foo:bar() end
21:52.50kergothhas a first argument "self" due to the :
21:52.54krunk-Female coders especially don't exist on irc
21:53.03Antiarcfoo:bar() is syntactic sugar for foo.bar(foo)
21:53.05Josh_BorkeEyeOfHell: have you read the lua manual?
21:53.08kergothif called as foo.bar(), it wont pass self automatically, : is a convenience to pass it automatically
21:53.11kergothclearly he has not
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21:53.15AntiarcIn this case, the first parameter is the calling object and is set to "self"
21:53.18Benumbedwhats correct syntax on "SC_Alert(channel_LABEL);" if channel is a variable
21:53.25AntiarcI said that poorly, but yeah.
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21:53.49EyeOfHellAh, really. Seems 'self' is what i'm looking for -_-. I have read it, but i'm new to LUA, so just don't have all it's up remembered yet -_-
21:53.51kergothSC_Alert(getglobal(channel.."_LABEL")) perhaps is what you want
21:53.57Benumbedthx
21:54.00Funkeh`cya later folks
21:54.55Josh_Borkeok, bye all
21:55.00Xueriancya Josh_Borke :p
21:56.31cheerskrunk-: yes, female, coder, AND in IRC. shocking, isn't it ;)
21:57.00krunk-cheers: I call bluff
21:57.01EyeOfHellAntiarc: btw, http://ace.pastey.net/3565 not working :(. It's 'attempting to index local 'self' : a nil value' O_O
21:57.04snirkscan bongos_bars be vertical?
21:57.15thaliecheers: you're not leah culver are you
21:57.17thalielol jk
21:57.22AntiarcEyeOfHell: I ran it fine using the lua 5.1 binary...
21:57.23BarbanusWe were talking this morning about having tabs highlighted when new messages come in ... I have my tabs "faded" how do I unfade them? so they are always there?
21:57.25cheershehe
21:57.35cheersBarbanus: can you?
21:57.38krunk-cheers: can I give you free stuff?
21:57.41EyeOfHellAntiarc: i'm using WoW right now
21:57.43snirksthalie: Tuller: can bongos_bars be vertical and more than 1 button? :p
21:57.50cheerskrunk-: um.... depends
21:57.50AntiarcYou copy/pasted that verbatim?
21:58.00cheers:p
21:58.13Tullersnirks: yes :P
21:58.18Antiarcie, you used MyLongObject:DoStuff(), not MyLongObject.DoStuff() ?
21:58.33snirksTuller: could you tell me how?
21:58.38cheersoh betas, shall I never be done with you???
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21:58.51EyeOfHellAntiarc: checking right now
21:58.56cheersthat HAS to be uncomfortable, Zealot...
21:59.01Tullersnirks: set your actionbars settings to not 120
21:59.02krunk-I'm filling out the scaffolding for my ace2 mod. I noticed that other ace2 mods have -Ace2- out beside their name...but mine doesn't. Any reason why? (I'm loosely following the setup/layout of other addons for ace2)
21:59.19ZealotOnAStickEnh, you get used to it after a while.
21:59.27krunk-I have: OptionaDeps: Ace2
21:59.31LoSti|Afkarg going crazy with this Ace2 Error -.-
21:59.32krunk-in my toc
21:59.58cheerskrunk-: obviously you just need to kick it ;)
22:00.02EyeOfHellAntiarc: Oops. Object.Function() :((
22:00.22snirksTuller: its 10 right now
22:00.22AntiarcHeh, yeah. If you want a reference to "self", you need to invoke your table methods with :
22:00.23Benumbedkergoth I have channel = CH1; then SC_Alert(getglobal(channel.."_LABEL")); but not working =x
22:00.26krunk-o.O
22:00.34EyeOfHellAntiarc: Not used yet for the different references about variables and functions :)
22:00.37vhaarrkrunk-: You need to put it in the Name field in the TOC.
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22:00.47Tullersnirks: even more weird, /bongos reset :)
22:00.57krunk-vhaarr: doh, too simple
22:01.06*** join/#wowace Nappy (n=chatzill@pD9FFED30.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:01.13krunk-vhaarr: name or title?
22:01.31krunk-I see now, title
22:01.32vhaarrkrunk-: you have 200 examples on the SVN, why are you asking me?
22:01.35AntiarcGeneral rule is ". is for variables and function references, : is for function invocations". There are exceptions, but that'll work until you start doing anything really fancy.
22:01.37vhaarrthank you
22:02.16krunk-vhaarr: because your name is sexy
22:02.24krunk-I like typing it
22:02.42vhaarrkrunk-: Okay .. you are forgiven.
22:02.45vhaarr^^
22:02.46ZealotOnAStickOk, question . . . (and yes, I did try and find this first on the WoWAce SVN thread on the forum, though I've failed at finding things before) . . .
22:02.46LoSti|Afk*lol*
22:02.49Barbanus~seen [Ammo]
22:03.07purl[ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 2h 15m 8s, last said: 'updating while another person commits is a bad idea'.
22:03.10vhaarrBarbanus: there's a good chance someone else in here can help you, just ask.
22:03.21ZealotOnAStickIs there somewhere or some way I can view the changelogs of various revisions of addons on the SVN lately, since the .zip script is only reporting the latest change in the zipped changelogs?
22:03.31NappyTekkub: Do you know why the twin emporers teleport warn is corrupted?
22:03.43vhaarrZealotOnAStick: svn log
22:03.45cheersZealotOnAStick: svn log? ;)
22:03.47AntiarcZealotOnAStick: svn log
22:03.50vhaarr:P
22:03.53AntiarcDammit, people.
22:04.00vhaarrNappy: Blizzard fucked up.
22:04.02*** join/#wowace Neebler (n=BuM@ppp-209-77-228-49.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net)
22:04.03ck|ganniGuess the reason. -.-
22:04.03AntiarcI was beaten, not once, but twice. :(
22:04.04thaliestop typing so fast :)
22:04.07AntiarcI am le slow.
22:04.10ZealotOnAStickOK.  How do I go about accessing/reading that?
22:04.15vhaarrZealotOnAStick: cmd
22:04.20CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20618 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: added limiter to the invite link generation
22:04.21Neriakuh bartender3 isn't hiding my empty buttons anymore :(
22:04.23Barbanusvhaarr, well, its just a simple bug ... the rainvite command in oRA2 doesn't properly take an option .. for example, /rainvite 60 will do "invite all players level 70 or above", and there is no way around it.
22:04.25AntiarcInstall SVN. Navigate to a SVN working copy. svn log
22:04.37vhaarrBarbanus: okay, let me fix it
22:04.48cheersZealotOnAStick: check out the source youre interested in, and then type svn log. it'll print out all the change logs for whatever point in the source you're at
22:05.04ZealotOnAStickam I going to be able to do that with RapidSVN, or do I need a different client?
22:05.09Kirkburn|afkNeriak, since when?
22:05.19cheersZealotOnAStick: should be able to do it w/ any client
22:05.31cheersZealotOnAStick: it's a base svn command. I can't imagine one unable to cope w/ log
22:05.39cheerss/base/basic/
22:05.48Antiarc"svn log http://svn7.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Sanity2/" returns the full log for Sanity2
22:05.58AntiarcWhich is what you are looking for, I suspect.
22:06.06cheersah, right, log takes urls, huh
22:06.08vhaarrBarbanus: Done.
22:06.10CIA-1703rabbit * r20619 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Fix /rainvite.
22:06.19BarbanusI abuse the trac on svn1
22:06.22BarbanusThanks vhaarr
22:06.28Barbanushttp://svn1.wowace.com/Trac/log/trunk/oRA2 for example
22:06.37krunk-Soooo I have heard rumors that there is a way to make error messages fully visible.
22:06.45sylvanaarSun\Nether: still able to test?
22:06.53Sun\Netheryeh
22:07.00Sun\Netherbut i'm on raiding party right now :)
22:07.04vhaarrkrunk-: BugSack and BugGrabber.
22:07.07vhaarrkrunk-: Both on SVN.
22:07.13sylvanaarSun\Nether: cool
22:07.14NeriakKirkburn|afk: my last update was like 3 hours ago
22:07.22krunk-I think I'll use BugSack, cause it made me laugh
22:07.32nevcairielyou need both
22:07.34ZealotOnAStickThanks.  Seeing if I can get that to happen now.  Thanks for tolerating my noobishness with SVN stuff.  
22:07.50CIA-1703rabbit * r20620 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Clean up some console command names.
22:07.52cheersZealotOnAStick: there's a book online, that'll help a lot w/ svn if you're new to it
22:08.27cheersZealotOnAStick: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
22:08.31Sun\Netheru got an update playername.lua ?
22:08.35CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20621 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: added channel messages to the whitelist for links
22:08.47ZealotOnAStickIt's more a matter of rather limited time and entirely too many projects in the fire.  I tend to really only learn what I feel I need to at a time to get what I need done.  Horrible habit, I know.
22:08.55cheerslol
22:09.04AntiarcI tend to be the same way :/
22:09.06cheersZealotOnAStick: that's what I'm sayin'... bookmark that & hit up the command references whe nyou need em
22:09.12ZealotOnAStickThe SVN book is sitting in my Firefox bookmarks from a couple of months ago . . . largely untouched.
22:09.18cheershaha
22:09.21cheersshame on you, then! :p
22:09.27thaliesvn is so easy.
22:09.30phyberbah, where is ckk when you need to ask about Tablet :/
22:09.40cheersoh geeze it's still raining... someone tell god the weather effects are stuck
22:09.43Azurewrathmhm.. anyone know a 2.0 Version of the old "TimerBuff" Mod? The standard Bufftimers drive me crazy..
22:09.44vhaarrphyber: Me and Elkano have touched Tablet as well.
22:09.44Pkekyohas anyone else experienced problems with Bartender3 and keybindings?
22:09.45krunk-svn >>>>>>>> then CVS
22:09.49vhaarrphyber: "just ask".
22:10.22phybervhaarr: I'd like to know if there is a reason behind it only taking 3 args for a function
22:10.29ZealotOnAStickIf you don't want to use Buffalo, Telo's BuffTimers was updated.  
22:10.31phyberwhen one of those is self, it kind of sucks.
22:10.32vhaarrphyber: what function?
22:10.43phyber'func', "SpamSingleScore", 'arg1', self, 'arg2', spell, 'arg3', normal.amount,
22:10.48phyber'arg4', crit.amount
22:11.01syerenWho is Sylvanaar in here :P?
22:11.06thaliei am
22:11.14phyberbut in :SpamSingleScore, 'crit' is nil, because it's not passed :/
22:11.16syerenThanks for fixing that fucking buh.
22:11.18syeren*bug/.
22:11.18thalieno, xuerian is
22:11.22vhaarrphyber: surely you can get around that anyway
22:11.23thalieno, sylvanaar is
22:11.23syerenWhell whomever, thanks :P
22:11.34thalie~point sylvanaar
22:11.43purlACTION points at sylvanaar with snickers and giggles
22:11.43phybervhaarr: could probably pass a table or something, but that means I have to make a table :p
22:11.43syerenVhaarr, ag_Range check isn't :P
22:11.45syerenworking :(
22:11.47vhaarrsyeren: isn't what?
22:11.49vhaarrworked for me
22:11.54syerenStrange :/
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22:11.55vhaarrin a group with 1
22:11.59vhaarrhaven't tested it in raid
22:12.01syerenI'll take a couple of screenshots after :(
22:12.12Xuerianwhat now?
22:12.13syerenMy character is level 38, I don't exactly raid on her yet :)
22:12.20vhaarrphyber: well where should the limit go, then
22:12.26vhaarrphyber: it has to end somewhere
22:12.31vhaarrphyber: 6 args?
22:12.38vhaarr10?
22:12.43ZealotOnAStickOk, everything I'm trying to do on SVN (the distro/mirror one of course, not the dev) I'm getting nothing but PROPFIND requests failing.
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22:12.57vhaarrsyeren: screenshots are useless
22:13.03vhaarrsyeren: unless they contain an error
22:13.12CIA-1703shiftos * r20622 10ClosetGnome_Banker/ (Banker.lua ClosetGnome_Banker.toc): ClosetGnome_Banker - added translation to spanish
22:13.25AntiarcZealotOnAStick: you probably have the wrong URL in that case
22:13.28AntiarcOr it's stuck between commits
22:13.37Urulokeshiftos just keeps going and going and going and... :P
22:13.43thalieantiarc: there is a mirror out of sync somewhere
22:13.48AntiarcThat'd be it.
22:13.50CIA-1703shiftos * r20623 10ClosetGnome_BigWigs/ (ClosetGnome_BigWigs.lua ClosetGnome_BigWigs.toc): ClosetGnome_BigWigs - added translation to spanish
22:13.51vhaarrphyber: I'm sure ckk will be happy to add a few more args, like 1-2, but I'm busy with BW atm.
22:13.53thalie~emulate thalie
22:13.54purlthe mirrors are out of sync again
22:13.55ZealotOnASticknot svn.wowace.com/wowace ?
22:13.57phybervhaarr: is there no way to let the user define it somehow when they make a category?
22:14.01neeneeevening
22:14.03syerenWell there is no error :(
22:14.05AntiarcTry svn7, for example
22:14.06vhaarrphyber: define what?
22:14.08phyberor is that jsut stupid? ;)
22:14.08AntiarcRather than just svn
22:14.09syerenEven checked my Buggrabber :(
22:14.14syerenIt just doesn't fade it out :(
22:14.18phybervhaarr: the number of args that should be allowed.
22:14.20vhaarrphyber: the number of arguments? that's just stupid :P
22:14.27CIA-1703shiftos * r20624 10ClosetGnome_Gatherer/ (ClosetGnome_Gatherer.lua ClosetGnome_Gatherer.toc): ClosetGnome_Gatherer - added translation to spanish
22:14.29phyberk
22:14.30phyberheh
22:14.47CIA-1703shiftos * r20625 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ (ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc Localization_esES.lua): ClosetGnome_OhNoes - added translation to spanish
22:14.56Pkekyowhat's the difference between svn.wowace.com and wowace.com/files?
22:15.02vhaarrphyber: since the introduction of the ... thingy, I'm guessing ckk will convert Dewdrop and Tablet to support it if you just poke him about it
22:15.04thaliedownload from files
22:15.11thaliedon't mess with the svn unless you know what you're doing :)
22:15.28Pkekyowhat's the svn stuff then?
22:15.35CIA-1703shiftos * r20626 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ (ClosetGnome_Zone.toc ClosetGnome_ZoneLocale-esES.lua): ClosetGnome_Zone - added translation to spanish
22:15.40XuerianPkekyo: /files are snapshots from svn
22:15.50vhaarrphyber: which would allow an arbitrary number of arguments, obviously
22:15.51phybervhaarr: ok.  ... = args1-gazillions?
22:15.53vhaarryes
22:15.54phyberok :)
22:15.55renchapthere is a problem with the master svn server
22:16.00renchapi have errors when i sync
22:16.01Pkekyoerr...Xuerian please translate? :)
22:16.14ZealotOnAStickthanks, svn7. seems to be working.
22:16.15XuerianPkekyo: Think of snapshots. Literally.
22:16.31UrulokeHmm, EQCompare always errors out when closing an item tooltip. EQCompare\EQCompare.lua:290: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
22:16.38Pkekyosoeh...they're basically the same?
22:16.40Xuerianlike pictures. They're taken/made every so often (20 minutes -> 2 hours, it depends)
22:16.56XuerianExcept they're static files. Getting something off the SVN implies a lot more load on the servers.
22:17.08Pkekyoah
22:17.19Pkekyodidn't know...been using addons from svn for months now
22:17.32TuX_BuBlinghello
22:17.36kergothmore load, but more bandwidth consumption too, as its all the content, not diffs.  tradeoffs
22:17.42thaliegenerally it's easier to grab the zips from the files directory, or by using winaceupdater
22:17.47kergother, s/more/less/ -- for zips
22:17.52kergothsilly fingers
22:18.10Neriakbah anyone using HydraIRC? I get this spamming in queries: /SET VERBOSELEVEL is only valid for channel windows
22:18.29ZealotOnAStickPkekyo wowace.com/files is basically there as a download source for the tens of thousands of people who've started living with Ace2 mods in the last couple of months, as the stuff gets more and more popular, and a lot of Ace2 stuff was (mostly) working patch day.
22:18.53Pkekyocool
22:18.59ZealotOnAStickthe svns are intended for development usage, not mass file distribution.
22:19.05Pkekyoah
22:19.08ZealotOnAStickthought that doesn't deter many.
22:19.12ZealotOnAStick-t
22:19.18Pkekyothen it all suddenly makes sense...kinda...
22:19.24XuerianZealotOnAStick: Problem is, the SVN was promoted heavily a few months ago as the premiere way to go
22:19.42XuerianThen a 180 followed with "ZOMG GET OFF THE SVN!!@#%$!"
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22:20.11ZealotOnAStickI'm only trying to muck with the SVN itself now because since about last Wednesday, I've more or less fallen into maintaining a private addon archive/mirror for my raiding guild . . .
22:20.32CIA-1703rabbit * r20627 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs: C'Thun: Half-assed 2.0 update.
22:20.33ZealotOnAStickand with /files zips only showing the last commit notes in the changelog, I'd like to see which updates actually frigging matter for anything.
22:20.34Barbanusvhaarr, that fix worked perfect, thanks.
22:20.45vhaarrBarbanus: what fix?
22:20.46XuerianZealotOnAStick: Reasonable usage, most definitely. =)
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22:20.47vhaarrah
22:20.51vhaarrBarbanus: oRA2?
22:20.52TuX_BuBlingis it possible to load FrameXML directory in Interface dir?
22:20.55Barbanusvhaarr rainvite one :)
22:21.00Barbanusvhaarr yar
22:21.01vhaarrokay
22:21.04UrulokeTuX_BuBling: No
22:21.12TuX_BuBling:(
22:21.18TuX_BuBlingwas nice like it was in the past
22:21.22ZealotOnAStickNot anymore TuX.  They killed that back . . . 1.10 or so?
22:21.30kergothgood riddance, imo
22:21.32UrulokeWas removed along with all the other override stuff
22:21.49UrulokeOnly thing you can override now is fonts
22:22.14ZealotOnAStickGrr.  Anyone with recommendations on a good SVN client?  RapidSVN seems exceptionally kludgy to me.
22:22.21Pkekyodamnit, for some reason I have to bind this actionbar function every time I log in...
22:22.21Pkekyousing Bartender3...anyone know what might cause this?
22:22.22UrulokeTortoiseSVN ftw!
22:22.33TainI don't think anyone should have used the overrides in addons, but I liked that I could do it for myself.
22:23.15TainAlthough you can probably do just about everything (if not everything) without overrides now.
22:23.47TuX_BuBling:(
22:24.45AntiarcTortoiseSVN is fantastic.
22:25.13nevcairielyay found a bug in FBP-2.0
22:25.20nevcairielwonder where ckk is to bug him
22:25.21vhaarro_O
22:25.29TuX_BuBlinganyone know a good addon to move frames?
22:25.30vhaarrexplain
22:25.32neeneehm. DeuceCommander just broke for me
22:25.57neeneehttp://pastebin.ca/279270
22:26.15nevcairiel|Bartender3.independentProfile = true| was not working for Bartender3 .. for some weird reason .. i did some research in FBP where its used
22:26.20nevcairieland i found a bugged line :)
22:26.23rw3nevcairiel: Can I query BT3 for the spell name and rank corresponding to the ID?
22:26.28vhaarrnevcairiel: wut?
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22:27.24krunk-temp is a global var?
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22:27.57krunk-odd choice of global names hehe
22:28.01thaliebtw, slouken replied to the unit=mouseover issue on the forums ... "This should already be fixed in the beta. "
22:28.15nevcairielvhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/3567 .. that v.independentProfile needs to read self.ind....
22:28.39nevcairieli think :)
22:28.40nevcairielat least it fixed my bug :D
22:29.24vhaarrno
22:29.33vhaarrit needs to read v.handler.independentProfile
22:30.20vhaarrnevcairiel: Following? :)
22:30.22nevcairieli was wondering if self makes sense there, but it worked so at least i knew that something is fishy with that line
22:30.30nevcairielyeah makes perfect sense now :)
22:30.39vhaarrnevcairiel: Replace it with v.handler.independentProfile and try again.
22:30.42vhaarrnevcairiel: If that works, just check in.
22:30.53nevcairielok
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22:31.13Mikmabored.
22:31.38nevcairielseems to work :)
22:31.42vhaarr^^
22:32.16nevcairielthe weirdest thing is
22:32.19nevcairielit works on live
22:32.21Sun\Nethersylvanaar : the linkinvite seems to work fine now
22:32.23nevcairielbut didnt work on BC beta
22:32.34nevcairielfor whatever reason
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22:32.55sylvanaarSun\Nether: im about to make a big change, can you test after i commit?
22:33.02Sun\Netherok
22:33.06Sun\Netherwhat big changes :p
22:33.23Sun\Netherjust ding me
22:33.32CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20628 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0: fixed a bug with independentProfile not being processed correctly
22:33.42nevcairielanyway, i can go to sleep now .. fixed my BT3 bug with profiles, finally :)
22:33.51rw3nevcairiel: Can I query BT3 for the spell name and rank corresponding to the ID?
22:34.08rw3Or any fancy trick to do it
22:34.12nevcairielrw3: sure, why not?
22:34.22nevcairielrw3: what are you trying todo?
22:34.37rw3add avg. damage/DPS texts to actionbar buttons
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22:34.46rw3Like theorycraft but a lot simpler
22:34.58nevcairiel(the button action id would be in BT3Button<id>.class:PagedID()
22:35.07DeviadAny news about cryolysis?
22:35.28rw3local id = ab[i].object:PagedID()
22:35.30rw3I'm that far
22:35.31rw3:P
22:35.44CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20629 10Prat/ (26 files in 2 dirs):
22:35.44CIA-17Prat: Quite a large change. It seems that the way Prat was handling module
22:35.44CIA-17enabling was not correct. This is should correct issues with modules being
22:35.44CIA-17enabled when first seen. Every module changed to tell Prat what the setting of
22:35.44CIA-17its 'on' variable is during the OnIntialize method.
22:35.47nevcairielhehe
22:35.56nevcairielwhat else do you need?
22:35.59nevcairielyou have the action ID there
22:36.30nevcairielblizzard API can operate on the action id
22:36.34rw3Just need to get the corresponding spell then, yeah
22:36.40TuX_BuBlinganyone know a good addon to move frames?
22:36.48TuX_BuBlingvisor is not that convenient ....
22:37.00rw3After that it gets a bit trickier to get the texts done (started working with addons yesterday)
22:37.03Barbanussylvanaar, heh I think i just experienced that bug like 2 mins ago
22:37.11sylvanaarSun\Nether: committed - the note above explains the change
22:37.32CIA-1703rabbit * r20630 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: .AceDebug-2.0: Reword the command description.
22:37.55sylvanaarBarbanus: yeah, im not sure what provision AceModuleCore has for the initial enabled state of a module
22:38.11sylvanaarneither is anyone else for that matter it seems
22:39.02sylvanaargrep is my friend today
22:39.20CIA-1703rabbit * r20631 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Toggle debugging on all modules along with the core.
22:39.24vhaarrModules are enabled initially.
22:39.35Barbanussylvanaar, I bet, lol
22:39.36TuX_BuBling<sylvanaar> grep is my friend today << grep is allways your friend :)
22:39.49sylvanaarvhaarr: yeah, that much i know
22:39.56vhaarrsylvanaar: what is the question then?
22:40.16sylvanaarBarbanus: yeah, im not sure what provision AceModuleCore has for the initial enabled state of a module
22:40.21cheersTuX_BuBling: except when it's not ;0
22:40.26cheerser, ;)
22:40.46TuX_BuBlingit can't
22:40.47sylvanaar*: yeah, im not sure what provision AceModuleCore has for the initial enabled state of a module
22:40.54TuX_BuBlingit's allways
22:41.01vhaarrsylvanaar: none
22:41.12cheersTuX_BuBling: your regex foo must be stronger than mine
22:41.24sylvanaarvhaarr: thats what i have found
22:41.43TuX_BuBlingcheers: it's not a grep problem so :)
22:41.52cheerslol, point
22:42.01TuX_BuBlinggrep is just nice
22:42.06TuX_BuBlingnot as nice as sed :)
22:42.08thaliebtw, just asked slouken and target=mouseover will be disabled on non-secure frames in 2.02
22:42.09TuX_BuBling^^
22:42.15cheersoh, now you're just talkin' crazy
22:42.22sylvanaarRegexBuddy is you best friend
22:42.26TuX_BuBlingi'm just a linux addict ;)
22:42.27BarbanusAnyone know any easy way to figure out WTF is causing this? http://ace.pastey.net/3569
22:42.29CIA-1703rabbit * r20632 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: BW Core iterates and toggles debugging on its modules now, we can remove the code.
22:42.38cheersi could never have guessed ;)
22:42.42cheersesp w/ a name like Tux
22:42.51TuX_BuBlingdamn i'm spotted :p
22:43.00cheerslol
22:43.19neeneeIs anyone elses' Deucecommander broken?
22:43.27cheersoh nice, we're expecting 60 mph wind gusts this evening
22:43.28sylvanaarJGSoft is your find-a-friend connection
22:43.36TuX_BuBlinga tux**** layong around on freenode.... how strange it is ;)
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22:43.45cheershehe
22:43.48vhaarrneenee: Don't just say that, give us an error or a screenshot, and we'll fix it.
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22:43.50TuX_BuBlinglaying*
22:43.52vhaarrhey ckk
22:44.12neenee+vhaarr: I did, but no one replied :) http://pastebin.ca/279270
22:44.29CIA-1703otravi * r20633 10oCB/core/casting.lua: oCB - Temporary fix for the counterspell/earth shock issues.
22:44.30sylvanaarI vote we put purl into intercept mode
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22:44.37vhaarrneenee: So Fence broke it.
22:45.02neeneeOh egh, I really have to learn to read.
22:45.11neeneeThanks, I'll check out what I can do to fence.
22:45.14vhaarrthat's Neriak
22:45.20vhaarrneenee: whalecrit him
22:45.53ckknighthey all
22:46.07sylvanaarmake her send tells or say things like "when reporting an error - remember to indicate the version number"
22:46.10ckknightin X-Chat, how do I set it to auto-join a channel that is passworded?
22:46.12nevcairielhey ckknight
22:46.40Kirkburn|afkOooh, is that oCB fix is what I think it is, wooo!
22:46.51Barbanusooo, I was about to give you the event for the counterpsell / earthshock issue
22:46.51Kirkburn|afks/is/if/
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22:47.04Barbanusor try to :P
22:47.11vhaarrckknight: that's pretty obscure
22:47.23vhaarrckknight: #channel1,#channel2,#channel3 ,,,password
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22:47.34vhaarriirc
22:47.49CIA-1703wmrojer * r20634 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (GarbageFu.lua GarbageFu_Sell.lua):
22:47.49CIA-17FuBar_GarbageFu :
22:47.49CIA-17- More debug code to track down the wrong item bug. Warning, complete item check every 60 seconds that could cause lag.
22:48.16nevcairielckknight: i discovered a small bug in FBP-2.0 and commited a fix. it should be what was meant to be there in the first place. at least it made sense to me after vhaarr got me going in the right direction :D
22:48.24ckknightnevcairiel, what was the fix?
22:48.52Neriakvhaarr: what did Fence broke?
22:49.04ckknightthanks, vhaarr, lemme test
22:49.07vhaarrNeriak: ask neenee
22:49.08nevcairiel|if type(v) == "table" and v.args and AceOO.inherits(v.handler, FuBarPlugin) and not v.independentProfile then| does read |if type(v) == "table" and v.args and AceOO.inherits(v.handler, FuBarPlugin) and not v.handler.independentProfile then| now
22:49.20Neriakneenee: what's broken?
22:49.41nevcairielit was causing my independentProfile on BT3 not to work :)
22:50.21ckknightah, good, nevcairiel
22:50.21Feathrenhi guys, i have a question depending bartender3. :) how can I bind keys to mousewheel up and down?
22:50.46BarbanusWhats the easiest way to track down ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED events to the offending mod?
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22:51.03cheersFeathren: there's not an option in the keybinding panel?
22:51.07neeneeHm. Is there an Ace Inspect addon?
22:51.11vhaarrBarbanus: There is none; BugSack gives you all the info available.
22:51.12ckknightbrb
22:51.13Neriakckknight: do you know why DeuceCommander hates numbers? args.Interface_Enhancements.args.Fence.args.autofill.args.duration: "validate" values must all be strings
22:51.30ckknightDewdrop hates numbers, my guess
22:51.40Neriakneenee: ask ckk!
22:51.41Barbanusvhaarr, meh, it claims it is Ace2, but I doubt it .. http://ace.pastey.net/3569
22:51.42nevcairieluse "number" ? :)
22:51.42Neriaklol
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22:52.28nevcairielckknight: can mousewheel up/down be bound using the dewdrop key binder?
22:52.40ckknightnevcairiel, lemme add it in.
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22:53.20Feathren2(cheers2): it's possible to bind any key there, but when I wheel up or down, it's not possible
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22:53.32Mikmalol
22:53.34nevcairielFeathren: give it some time
22:53.35cheersFeathren: weird... I have zoom set to scrool up & down
22:53.38Mikmaall the npc's missing at Tempest Keep
22:53.38nevcairieli just requested it :)
22:53.40cheersscroll even
22:53.49nevcairielMikma: all day already
22:54.16vhaarrFeathren: colors = nuke
22:54.16Feathrenok thanks
22:54.56Bver[Ammo] you there?
22:55.04vhaarrjust ask, Bver
22:55.17CIA-1703neriak * r20635 10Fence/modules/Fence_AutoFill.lua: Fence: fixed DeuceCommander error ... Dewdrops hates numbers - I hate Dewdrop
22:55.31Neriakneenee: there you go .. should be fixed
22:55.53BverAre you gonna put the option back in for MT's to have the Main Tanks Target to the left or the right of the MT frames like you used to have in 1.12?
22:56.20Bver<3'd that option
22:57.04sylvanaarnevcairiel: you fixed independant profiles? thats great
22:57.11nevcairielyup
22:57.15vhaarrBver: Give Ammo a few days and come back next week.
22:57.21vhaarr"you"?
22:57.24vhaarr:(
22:57.27nevcairieli found the bug
22:57.31nevcairielyou helped with the fix :)
22:57.34vhaarrye, and I fixed it :P
22:57.35sylvanaarthank god, people have been reporting that forever
22:58.08sylvanaari looked myself for a while even
22:58.46sylvanaaryou 2 are my heroes
22:58.51Neriakis the author of cycircled here?
22:58.52vhaarr\o/
22:58.58vhaarrNeriak: not now
22:59.01vhaarr~seen sairen
22:59.31purlsairen <n=Miranda@p549E78A8.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 5h 43m 5s ago, saying: 'Groll: mh cyCircled is on the svn and well, there wasn't much more ^^'.
22:59.31nevcairielI still dont get why it was working on the Live servers, but wasnt working on Beta
22:59.32CIA-1703ckknight * r20636 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - mousewheel should now work as a keybinding
22:59.32Neriakhmm cyCircled is the culprit. it's skinning empty bartender3 buttons and don't hide them
22:59.44Neriaks/don't/doesn't
23:00.01Barbanus"you fixed independant profiles" what was broken with them?
23:00.20nevcairielthe option to change profiles was hidden from the chat command menu
23:00.21Fiskernice
23:00.25Fiskerinstructor is easy
23:00.27Sun\Nethersylvanaar: prat 20629 load fines, no obvious error so far
23:00.35nevcairielin some cases
23:00.42cheersFisker: razuvious? we actually had a bit of trouble w/ him last night o.O
23:00.51Fiskerjust cleared for him first time
23:00.56Fiskercause we didn't have time to try on faerlina
23:01.00Bverdid they ever fix teh twin teleport timer in bigwigs?
23:01.03Fiskerthink we had 5 tries then we killed him
23:01.09FiskerIt can't be fixed Bver
23:01.11cheersFisker: yeah, it's not too bad a fight
23:01.11vhaarrBver: Blizzard fucked up, we can't fix them.
23:01.15sylvanaarSun\Nether: awesome - the errors will manefest as modules not turning on, or one module turning on another, but the change looks clean so far
23:01.15FiskerBlizzard screwed it
23:01.23Barbanushow did they fuck it up?
23:01.25Bverwow that sucks :(
23:01.29Sun\Nethersylvanaar: yep
23:01.34Bveri was calling it manualy
23:01.35Barbanuswe havent done emps in like 2 weeks
23:01.53Jakobuddid blizz change the teleport timer or something?
23:02.01Fiskerjust the way it's done
23:02.07vhaarrJakobud: no
23:02.08FiskerIt's a buff now, and it's very hard to detect
23:02.17Jakobudah
23:02.23vhaarrBver: As the raid leader, do /bwcb 30 Teleport!
23:02.30vhaarror officer
23:02.34Fiskeryou took my idea vhaarr !
23:02.38CIA-1703ckknight * r20637 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - fix typo
23:02.38Bverok
23:02.39vhaarrFisker: yeah
23:02.40Barbanusis it a random start time or something?
23:02.45vhaarrI am teh ninja
23:02.48Barbanusor random from combat start?
23:02.50vhaarrBarbanus: yeah
23:02.52Bveri was just looking for the secong uppercut tbh
23:02.52vhaarrrandom
23:02.53Barbanusmeh
23:02.56Barbanusthat sucks
23:03.12Barbanusdo you cant even do like 30 secs after combat starts
23:03.13Bverhe usually ports 5-10 secs after it
23:03.15Jakobudthere is nothing in the combat log or anything that says when they teleport?
23:03.17sylvanaarYAY profile copy in Prat works
23:03.44Bverhey vharr
23:03.54DeviadAny news about cryolysis?
23:03.58beerkeCan the meteor warning at 4HM have a counter with it, like the number of marks does ?
23:04.05DeviadI read it was going to be out at midnight
23:04.06Bverthat  /bwcb could i use it for PI timers on priests??
23:04.09Bver:))
23:05.06vhaarrBver: /bwcb is broadcasted to the raid
23:05.07vhaarrBver: /bwlcb is not
23:05.07Bveroh i mistook it for a time  :p
23:05.07vhaarrBver: /bwlcb 600 Pizza done!
23:05.07CIA-1703ckknight * r20638 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - fix another typo
23:05.07Bvertimer*
23:05.07vhaarrit is a timer ..
23:05.16KarlThePaganlooks like the decursive workaround is being fixed
23:05.28cheersKarlThePagan: did you think it wouldn't be?
23:05.30vhaarrbut /bwcb starts a global one (for everyone in the raid with BW), and /bwlcb starts a local one
23:05.39Bverok sweet
23:05.49Bveradding that to my pi macros
23:05.51Bver:P
23:06.09cheersso, /bwlcb 120 PI up! ?
23:06.17vhaarrit's seconds
23:06.21CIA-1703solor * r20639 10Prat/modules/ChatTabs.lua: Prat: ChatTabs - typo fixed & currently there is almost impossible to have hidden tabs by default because of module, but on module disable you need mouseover chatframe to get "default" settings back...
23:06.22vhaarr120 is 2 minutes
23:06.22KarlThePagan180
23:06.26cheersyeah I can't count
23:06.27cheersdon't mind me
23:06.28vhaarr:P
23:06.30KarlThePagan;)
23:06.36cheers6x3=12, didn't you know?
23:06.40vhaarrah ok
23:06.49*** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no)
23:06.53KarlThePaganis there a reason that the wowace group can't send individual emails?
23:06.55KarlThePagangoogle's fault?
23:09.00smoke_hey guys, would it be possible to add click casting onto candybar?
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23:09.32phyberhah.  Ashkandi dropped from Nef, and one of our mages is like "Can I roll on that, uhh, my mum needs it to.... uhhh, clean the carpets."
23:09.50Pedrolol
23:10.01Xuerianrofl.
23:10.07Mikmaroflcopter
23:10.11Mikmaand lollerskaters
23:10.24Xuerian-need to be shot.
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23:10.38Dekuna~shoot
23:10.43purlbang!
23:10.43Dekuna?
23:10.43XuerianOver, and over, and over.
23:10.44XuerianAgain.
23:10.48Dekunarock
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23:10.59CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20640 10Prat_FuBar2/Prat_FuBar2.toc: Prat_FuBar2: updated version to 2.0 (just so the zip would get rebuilt really)
23:11.17pdpiis there any auctioneer style addon based on ace?
23:11.20vhaarrsylvanaar: ZIPs are rebuilt every 20min now, regardless of commits.
23:11.46sylvanaarvhaarr: oh
23:12.23Neriaknevcairiel: how do I bind mousebuttons in b3?
23:12.39Neriaknevcairiel: you ruined my whole game right now ^^
23:12.48sylvanaari even suggested doing it that way, lol silly me
23:13.02Barbanusyou /wrists and /cry!
23:13.31krunk-the addon I'm using for a reference is calling CreateFrame(arg1, arg2) and some of it's methods. Which API contains info on this method?
23:13.43E-RaZoR``does anyone know what the default value for script memory is and what a preferable size is? :o
23:13.53Antiarchttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame
23:14.14Xuerianwowwiki.com/Widget_API is a good reference for that kind of thing, in addition to the actual page :p
23:14.54krunk-awesome
23:14.56BarbanusIs there any way you can make it so Prat highlights chat tabs when you get a message in a custom channel on that chat tab?
23:15.10BarbanusAparantly the default UI doesnt do this :(
23:16.03AntiarcPersonally, I'd like the UI to stop all tab highlighting all together. ;)
23:16.10JoshBorkeanyone here not play enUS or enGB?
23:16.16AntiarcI use alternate tabs as filters, and keep all my chat in the main window
23:16.23AntiarcSo I have a whispers tab, officers' tab, raid tab, etc.
23:16.24BarbanusI'd love it to work like irc :(
23:16.26AntiarcThen filter as necessary.
23:17.01sylvanaarBarbanus: i have a request for that, but I really dont understand how it differs from the default UI
23:17.41sylvanaarBarbanus: so the active tab doesnt flash?
23:17.57Barbanussylvanaar, from what I understand, the default UI highlights the tab if you get a guild message, whisper, etc .. but not on chat channel messages
23:18.01CIA-1703shiftos * r20641 10ArcHUD2/ (ArcHUD2.toc Locale_esES.lua): ArcHUD2 - added translation to spanish
23:18.03sylvanaarAntiarc: i think that is already added
23:18.09Barbanussylvanaar, lemme test it
23:18.14Antiarcsylvanaar: as a prat module?
23:18.27sylvanaarAntiarc: yeah, ChatTabs
23:18.32vid`anything in this game similar to what EQ had in /RT /TT
23:18.34AntiarcOh, awesome. I must have missed it. Thanks!
23:18.38vid`/TT is tell your current target
23:18.46AntiarcPrat does that.
23:18.47vid`/RT is target the last person who sent you a whisper
23:18.55vid`ah really?
23:18.58AntiarcYou can't implement /rt, I think
23:19.02vid`doh :(
23:19.06AntiarcBut /tt works
23:19.06vid`yea i always wondered
23:19.09vid`oh neat k
23:19.32sylvanaarim not implementing /rt thats a bit much
23:19.41XuerianCan you still ctrl+click the names to target? :P
23:19.55sylvanaarjust press F and then do /tt
23:20.15sylvanaarXuerian: no
23:20.23XuerianHeh.
23:20.37sylvanaarXuerian: chat frames are not secure
23:20.56Xueriansylvanaar: I was curious, since blizzard used to do that by default :P
23:21.07sylvanaarXuerian: they still do
23:21.19sylvanaarXuerian: for secure frames
23:21.39XuerianAnd names in chat frames aren't secure, right? :P
23:21.52sylvanaarXuerian: but im not making secure chat frames F that
23:21.58Xuerianhaha.
23:22.20Barbanussylvanaar, it looks like the blizz UI only does highlighting of tabs if it is a whisper sent to that tab, all other chat messages dont cause it to highlight
23:23.09sylvanaarhmm...so now we gotta add a menu for all the chat types so peopel can choose which they want
23:23.28Barbanusif its possible ... heh
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23:23.47Bverso, someone should make a healthstone trading mod, since i have to hand out 8347839749837 every night
23:23.52alcaras_hrm, did something change in the latest (today's) bartender3 release? all my keybindings no longer show :-/
23:23.56alcaras_bver: just make a soulwell
23:24.04Bveri wish
23:24.09cheerslol
23:24.10alcaras_isn't that new for warlocks?
23:24.12sylvanaari wrote one over a year ago
23:24.15alcaras_i've been using soulwells for years now
23:24.16alcaras_err
23:24.18alcaras_months*
23:24.19Bvercarrying 70 shards to a raid is the suck
23:24.23alcaras_in beta, at least
23:24.26alcaras_not sure what the min level on soulwell is
23:24.31Bveryeah i stopped leveling at 65
23:24.49vid`Bver: tradeDispenser
23:24.50cheersBver: could be worse... you could ahve to res & buff em ;)
23:24.52vid`on wowinterface.com
23:24.56vid`its not ace
23:24.58vid`but it works good
23:24.58Bveri had this sweet HSTrader mod, but it doesnt work anymore with the new changes
23:24.58anenigmaBver: that's why rogues are awesome.  we don't bring _anything_ to raids cept ourselves, have zero buffs, zero utilty.  we just dps random targets, and collect phat epix
23:25.04vid`i use it for food/water @ raids
23:25.18vid`it autoputs items you specify in windows
23:25.23vid`and you can set it up per class, by mana user, etc
23:25.24Barbanusanenigma, then you are a crappy rogue :P
23:25.28Barbanusdps pots ftw
23:25.32alcaras_anenigma: poisons, pots?
23:25.35alcaras_warriors have it easy
23:25.36alcaras_just bring gear.
23:25.37sylvanaaranenigma: rogues make raids go faster, i like them
23:25.39Bvervid
23:25.42vid`and then it pops up a big ACCEPT button in the middle of the window to accept the trade
23:25.46vid`its nice
23:25.48Barbanusalcaras_, except on patchwerk ...
23:25.53pdpianenigma: Yeah, even my hunter has to keep Trueshot Aura up
23:25.58Bverdoes it have a q'ing system
23:25.59Bver?
23:26.01alcaras_Barbanus: never done patch, what do warriors bring there?
23:26.02cheersrogues are smartasses :P
23:26.07AntiarcI think what anenigma meant is that rogues don't have to hand anything out or buff people or anything.
23:26.10cheersalcaras_: a TON o dmg
23:26.11anenigmaalcaras_: ok, well, i still carry poisons+pots, but that's nothing 'special' for raids.  i carry them during pvp/grinding as well
23:26.17AntiarcWe just stab stuff and play with tonks when we aren't stabbing things.
23:26.29alcaras_so... anyone know what happened in the last bartender3 update?  my keybindings no longer show
23:26.29Barbanusalcaras_ stoneshield, flask, agility, armor pots
23:26.34vid`Bver: no dont think so
23:26.36vid`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4702
23:26.39vid`not that ive seen
23:26.41alcaras_Barbanus: that's naxx, land of consumables
23:26.41anenigmai love our ony raids.  rogues sit outside the cave duelling till the '30 seconds to ony' call comes :D
23:26.45Bveryeah the one i had was amazing,
23:26.49AntiarcBasically.
23:26.51vid`yea i had one too that had queuing
23:26.52vid`before 2.0
23:26.54Bvera guy im my old guild made it
23:26.56cheersalcaras_: hopefully they were buffing before naxx...
23:26.56Barbanusalcaras_, yep
23:26.57vid`forgot name of it
23:26.58AntiarcI have been handing out tonks to all my rogues
23:27.06vid`not whispercast but something like it
23:27.11AntiarcThe hunters curse us, because they can't use tonks because "they already control a summoned pet"
23:27.13AntiarcIt's awesome.
23:27.15Bverbut since he doesnt play anymore, he doesnt wanna update it to 2.0
23:27.27Barbanusanenigma, heh only is cake, we 15 man her on a regular basis
23:27.36alcaras_Hrm, so it appears the last patch to BT3 to fix 'profiles' now has completely screwed up keybindings
23:27.38Barbanuss/only/ony
23:27.47alcaras_they work but they don't show anymore :(
23:27.59anenigmaBarbanus: that's our regular showup too.  we only do it for gold+shards.  ~8g for like 10mins work,
23:28.05alcaras_the thing i loved about bt was it would just use blizzardbar's keybindings
23:28.10alcaras_so you don't have to rebind everything if you stop using bt
23:28.15cheersmy guys don't have enough brain cells to do ony low on bodies
23:28.27cheersit's damn embarassing
23:28.43AntiarcWe do Ony better with fewer people than more, ironically.
23:29.05AntiarcI think that it boils down to "more people = higher chance that some idiot gets feared into the whelp caves"
23:29.08CIA-1703shiftos * r20642 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc): FuBar_NameToggleFu - added translation to spanish
23:29.28cheersAntiarc: yeah, but when it inevitably happens at leat there's people to deal w/ it
23:29.43wallendoes anyone get 15-25 KiB/s memory increase in AV ?
23:29.43Bveris there anyway to see what action is being blocked, when you get the "This action is being Blocked..." message?
23:29.48alcaras_mm, so no knows what's up with bartender3?
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23:30.17XuerianBver: AddonBlocked on WoWI
23:30.20Barbanusso does anyone else find this the most useless error ever? http://ace.pastey.net/3569 -- or am I missing something
23:30.30Bverthanks
23:30.37Bvermaybe i can update the mod myself
23:30.38Bver:P
23:30.47vid`wallen
23:30.55vid`i have 60 KiB/s
23:30.57alcaras_what happened to sairen's site at http://sairen.wind-force.net/ ? it appears to be down :(
23:30.57vid`in BG/raids
23:31.11wallenugh
23:31.22vid`10-20 outside raids
23:31.34ZealotOnAStickhmm.  Well, you can tell there's an error!  Not a frigging clue with what . . . yeah.
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23:33.20XuerianBarbanus: This calls for.... Addon Whackamole!
23:33.31BarbanusXuerian, yea :(
23:33.49CIA-1703phyber * r20643 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
23:33.49CIA-17FuBar_TopScoreFu:
23:33.49CIA-17- Fix so that it doesn't break quite as horribly. However, your crits won't be reported when you click.
23:37.54alcaras_how long does it generally take for the svn mirror to sync up?
23:38.31ckknightalcaras_, 2 million
23:38.51alcaras_2 million what? seconds? milliseconds? dollars?
23:39.00ckknightyep
23:39.04alcaras_<3
23:39.29[Liquidor]Does true exist as a value or should I go for nil and 1 ?
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23:39.40ckknightuse true and false.
23:39.45ckknightalmost always
23:39.46[Liquidor]Great
23:39.52ckknightsometimes you'll use true and nil, though
23:40.01ckknightbut not always
23:40.06[Liquidor]difference?
23:40.16[Cu]Werika lot
23:40.17[Cu]Werik:)
23:40.25Bverdoes this function not work anymore ??
23:40.27BverCastSpell(spellID, "bookType")
23:40.28[Liquidor]false ~= nil ?
23:40.39ckknighttrue, [Liquidor]
23:40.42[Liquidor]ok
23:40.57ckknightfalse and nil are not equal
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23:41.08ckknight(not false) == (not nil)
23:41.09[Liquidor]false can be taken as a value actually
23:41.13[Liquidor]..?
23:41.20alcaras_nil is the absence of a value
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23:41.22ckknight(not false) == true
23:41.23AntiarcFalse is a value, nil is "no value"
23:41.25ckknight(not nil) == true
23:41.28[Liquidor]ye thought so
23:41.37ggilbertBver: nope, it's gone the way of the dodo
23:41.40CIA-1703phyber * r20644 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
23:41.40CIA-17FuBar_TopScoreFu:
23:41.40CIA-17- Infact, let's change how the function works for now. Crits will report again.
23:41.50alcaras_false is that which not is, nil is that which is not
23:42.22phyberckknight: vhaarr was saying you might be able to make Tablet use ... so that it wouldn't be restricted to 3 args, or some other random amount of args.
23:42.36phyberis it possible, or just a pain in the ass?
23:42.39ckknightI'm working on it
23:42.42ckknightdoing Dewdrop now.
23:42.43phybercool :)
23:42.55ckknightso it'll support a bajillion args
23:43.05phyber\o/
23:43.24phyberI'll have to think of what to use the others for then.  I only need 4 ;)
23:43.59Arrowmasterphyber: does topscorefu ignore certain mobs yet?
23:44.09[Liquidor]What is the difference in creating a function with Alpha = function() end and function Alpha() end ?
23:44.40ckknightno difference, [Liquidor]
23:45.02[Liquidor]And is function Alpha:Bravo() end valid as Alpha:Bravo = function() end as well?
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23:45.27ckknightno, [Liquidor]
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23:45.34Arrowmasteri think you use Alpha.Bravo = function() end
23:45.35ckknightAlpha.Bravo = function(self) end
23:45.43[Liquidor]I see
23:45.46ckknightbut do it the proper way.
23:45.49ckknightfunction Alpha:Bravo() end
23:47.12CIA-1703Tristan * r20645 10RaidSpy/RaidSpy.toc:
23:47.12CIA-17RaidSpy:
23:47.12CIA-17- Changed OptionalDeps
23:47.25[Liquidor]Hmm
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23:48.15[Liquidor]"if not Alpha then end" and "if Alpha == nil then end" -- both true?
23:48.51kergoth'not Alpha' is true if alpha is either false or nil, and only then
23:49.18[Liquidor]So better to use 'not Alpha' or does that matter?
23:49.37CIA-1703jerry * r20646 10RosterLib/ (Roster-2.1/ Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua RosterLib.toc):
23:49.37CIA-17RosterLib:
23:49.37CIA-17_ Committed Roster-2.1, the update of RosterLib-2.0.
23:49.37CIA-17_ Modified the TOC to point to it, so people running disembedded beware of breakage.
23:49.51TheKarnit depends if your wanting to check if Alpha is nil or false
23:50.17[Liquidor]function Alpha:Bravo(str) if str == nil then end -- or -- function Alpha:Bravo(str) if not str then end ?
23:50.20TheKarnif Alpha is false, then "if Alpha==nil then end" will not run the statements
23:50.52TheKarnfunction Alpha:Bravo(str) if not str then return end end
23:51.19ckknightif not str then end is faster than if str == nil then end
23:51.52Arrowmastersomebody slap jerry
23:51.56TheKarnhowever if not isstring(str) then return end would check that str is infact a string... i think.
23:51.57[Liquidor]what if noting is sent to Alpha:Bravo? Is str then nil or both nil and false?
23:52.05TheKarnjust nil
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23:52.15TheKarnit cant be nil and false because false is a value
23:52.17TheKarnand nil has no value
23:52.19Arrowmasteris jerry in irc?
23:52.20TheKarnother then 0x00
23:52.39cheerswhat's a meta-socket?
23:53.04[Liquidor]Is it possible to use functions on variables with nil? Like 'not isstring(str)' if str is nil?
23:53.30markvoh hey karn phyber updated topscorefu today with your update that you did !
23:53.38CIA-1703pettigrow * r20647 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (BossBlock.lua RaidWarn.lua Sound.lua): BigWigs: fix french locale
23:53.44alcaras_hrm
23:53.49alcaras_i hate blocked actions.
23:53.51alcaras_i really do.
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23:54.23alcaras_right click duel on unitframe = blocked; /duel = not blocked... wtf.
23:54.40phyberTheKarn: yeah, thanks for that little feature. meant to do something like that since it's on the request list ;)
23:54.41leech2kya I get that with aguf too
23:54.43smoke_click casting is pretty much impossible with candy bars in combat
23:54.44smoke_?
23:54.48Arrowmasterits because the menu isnt secure
23:55.17leech2kwell why not! :-)
23:55.21Arrowmastercandy bars doesnt use secure frames
23:55.31alcaras_leech2k: ugh, so it's not just me?
23:55.38alcaras_leech2k: which means it's porbably a bug in aguf
23:55.40alcaras_<weep>
23:55.43Arrowmasteralcaras_: its happening for almost everybody
23:55.46leech2kalcaras_: nope aguf has been like that since patch
23:56.02Arrowmasterits fixed in 2.0.2
23:56.10alcaras_oh it's a bug with blizz?
23:56.14alcaras_when is 2.0.2 coming out?
23:56.16Arrowmasterkinda
23:56.19leech2ksweet everything is fixed in 2.0.2
23:56.22leech2klol
23:56.22cheerslol
23:56.23Arrowmasterjanuary
23:56.24CIA-1703ckknight * r20648 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - now supports an arbitrary number of args provided to functions
23:56.24ckknightArrowmaster, actually, it's fixed in 2.0.3
23:56.27cheersit's the holy grail of patches ;)
23:56.28alcaras_i've been putting off an AlcUI release update for _2 months_ because i refuse to release a ui that has blocked actions :p
23:56.29tlundBC servers are running 2.0.3 now
23:56.35alcaras_tlund: i'm getting it on BC
23:56.44Arrowmasterckknight: ui forums say its fixed in 2.0.2
23:56.44leech2kI really hope 2.0.2 hits live servers before tbc
23:57.02alcaras_right click duel is still happening on tbc
23:57.03ckknightArrowmaster, wasn't fixed in 2.0.2 before the 2.0.3 patch.
23:58.58hugoanyone know if theres some alternative addon like CCWatch? it has 3 colums of bars 1-dots 2-crowd control(you-rogue/frostnova/sheep etc) 3-debuffs
23:59.06hugocause ccwatch has ugly bars ;p
23:59.12kergothhugo: chronometer
23:59.18hugonoo..
23:59.25hugochronometer puts all in one
23:59.30hugotoo confusing
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23:59.59alcaras_see? http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9634/wowscrnshot121406185344hh1.jpg

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