irclog2html for #wowace on 20061213

00:00.26KirkburnArjor, aUF_RangeCheck. It doesn't appear to be updated for 2.0 (thus not on files), but it works anyway
00:00.48KirkburnOn that subject - can someone please update aUF_RangeCheck's toc?
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00:01.05Solehi
00:01.16Solewhy doesnt pinpoint have any embedded libs?
00:01.28Gngskcuz it's deprecated!
00:01.37Soleoh snap
00:01.40KirkburnFunkeh`, I feel I should mention - TBC is now on 2.0.3
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00:01.56Soleso whats in place of PinPoint?
00:02.00Solea cartographer module?
00:02.05Gngskyea
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00:04.28CIA-1703nylith * r20302 10nRaidTracker/ (. Core.lua Libs/ nRaidTracker.toc):
00:04.28CIA-17nRaidTracker: initial commit
00:04.29CIA-17- A simple raid tracker that tracks attendees and loots periodically, for later extraction from SavedVariables.
00:05.01CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20303 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: added caching of the actual action id for performance purposes ( thanks Tuller )
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00:07.16CIA-1703alastair * r20304 10FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu/FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu.toc:
00:07.16CIA-17FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu:
00:07.16CIA-17-spelling mistake caused saved variables not to be saved
00:08.43XuerianWhat's worse than swallowing a pepper that's too hot?
00:08.46DCUI2anyone know of a good bag mod that makes your bags movable ?
00:08.53Sarozone that's too cold?
00:08.55Viper_0000vbagnone
00:08.57Tenderheartswallowing 2 peppers that are too hot?
00:08.59XuerianNope
00:09.03XuerianCoughing one up your nose
00:09.10Sarozthats dumb
00:09.15Viper_0000lmao
00:09.31AzurewrathXua: only a really hot pepper is a good pepper. :)
00:09.40XuerianTell that to my nose >.<
00:09.41AzurewrathXuerian i meant
00:09.42Gnarfoz_there are non-hot peppers?
00:09.44GandharvaSole: use Cartographer_Mining oder Cartographer_Herbalism
00:10.22Soullessprats playernames module isn't saving settings anymore, anybody know if its been fixed?
00:10.48DirtySanchanyone know much about cycircled?
00:11.02SoullessDirtySanch: sarien does
00:11.36DirtySanchhe isn't here tho
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00:11.51DirtySanchseems to have grey outlines of the bar
00:12.04ZeusJuiceF3: you ever get that layout working?
00:12.05DirtySancheven though the buttons are in the circles
00:12.17AzurewrathXuerian: try a Golden Sun Habanero Chili, enjoy the pain. :)
00:12.17CIA-1703saroz * r20305 10sRaidFrames/ (4 files): sRaidFrames: My god I hate localization, someone fix it
00:12.36Eej...Fallout MMO
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00:13.36Azurewrathbah, gotta reboot, windows patches
00:13.44XuerianAzurewrath: I'd rather not x.x
00:15.03sylvanaarSoulless: playernames saves its settings just fine afaik
00:15.32AzurewrathXua: Habanero Chilis only have up to ~400-450000 scoville units.. (Tabasco Pepper Sauce has about ~2500) :D
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00:15.46Xueriano.o;
00:15.50Azurewrathgaa... i wrote Xua again..
00:15.54XuerianI don't care XD
00:15.58DirtySanchanyone have any idea how to fix the grey bars with cycircled?
00:16.23XuerianAzurewrath: So after I eat this mythical pepper... How do I reform my melted tissue?
00:16.30thalie~emulate xuerian
00:16.41purlLet me see if I can help you fix that.
00:16.47CIA-1703nylith * r20306 10nRaidTracker/ (. Core.lua):
00:16.48CIA-17nRaidTracker:
00:16.48CIA-17- Externals setup in SVN
00:16.52thalieboo
00:16.56Xuerian<.<
00:16.57thalieperl fails
00:16.57AzurewrathXuerian: you don't.. i guess.
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00:17.11XuerianAzurewrath: o.o
00:17.30Soullesssylvanaar: are you using 20279?
00:17.43thaliepurl FAILS
00:17.44purlrumour has it, fails is <message> I fail? I FAIL? NO, YOU FAIL!
00:17.50thaliedamn you
00:17.57Azurewrathi own a Sauce called Vicious Vampire, which has about 125k scoville Units.. and it burns _really_ good. Not very fun to consume it pure though
00:19.07thalie~kiss xuerian
00:19.08purlACTION forces xuerian to give hugo a big kiss on the ear
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00:19.34XuerianSorry, hugo. >.< <Wipes hot sauce from mouth>
00:19.47thalierofl
00:20.41Azurewrathhaha
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00:22.24thalie~fear
00:22.26purlFear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.  I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.  Only I will remain.
00:22.34thaliewonder who put that in?  hm
00:22.44krunk-~caffeine
00:22.45purli heard caffeine is the nectar of the gods in concentrated form or the jiuce which runs through our veins
00:23.09krunk-should replace that with the: Caffeine is the mind-quickener. . . spin off
00:25.02thalie~dance
00:25.04purlACTION dances a slow dance with you
00:25.07alexgiegHello! Please, would someone be so kind as to give me a little hand with Ace1? I'm trying to use MyBags, but I found a bug: when I try to use an item inside MyBags, WoW says Ace tried to do something it isn't allowed, offering me the option to disable it. :(
00:25.16thalieace1?
00:25.20alexgiegYes.
00:25.38ckknightback
00:25.46ckknightmade a Gingerbread house
00:25.50thaliecool c
00:25.50thaliek
00:26.06ckknightAce1 is no longer supported
00:26.30alexgiegWell, it's been updated to WoW 2.0.1.
00:26.49alexgiegAnd the updated MyBags still works with it.
00:26.57alexgiegAnd KC_Items.
00:27.17Kirkburnckknight, it is supported to an extent
00:27.20alexgiegSooo...
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00:27.30ckknightmeh, Kaelten can support it, I choose not to.
00:27.35alexgieglol
00:27.41CIA-1703nylith * r20307 10nRaidTracker/:
00:27.42CIA-17nRaidTracker:
00:27.42CIA-17- Externals update
00:28.15krunk-I'm running through some tuts, but it seems  some of the even handlers aren't working for me. Such as ZONE_CHANGED() and BAGS_OPEN()
00:28.42krunk-function MyAddon:ZONE_CHANGED(); self:Print("Changed"); end; does nothing
00:28.50Jakobuddoes anyone know anything about OneBagSorter, like if its gonna get updated?  I fixed the new LUA 5.1 changes in the addon and I'm not getting errors anymore, but it doesn't seem to really sort anything...  I never used it before though, so I'm not sure what its supposed to do exactly
00:28.54ckknight~literal ckknight
00:29.05purl"ckknight" is "(<reply>ckknight is awesome.  Ace2 developer, author of Fubar and the incredibly f***ing cool Cartographer.|<reply>ckknight LOVES pie and your mom, not necessarily in that order|<reply>ckknight makes awesome gingerbread houses.)"
00:29.05thaliehaha
00:29.06krunk-~caffeine
00:29.08purlIt is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.  It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.  It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
00:29.10ckknightkrunk-, are you registering properly?
00:29.23[sleeping]Trimbldamnit, why do i keep getting a bigwigs error .. grr
00:29.40krunk-I'm following the Welcome tutorial...copy pasted when my code didnt' work to make sure it wasn't some weird typo
00:30.33krunk-I must solve the quandary or the Mother of All Warlock AddOns will never be made!
00:30.50thalie~dance
00:30.52purlACTION dances a slow dance with navv ... ooooooh
00:31.04markvkrunk-: the answer is 42
00:31.41krunk-markv: so it is, though fish tend to make comprehension easier. . fish and mice
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00:31.44Xueriankrunk-: pastey your code
00:32.37Xuerianace.pastey.net
00:32.37krunk-ik sec
00:32.37markvok battlegroundfu needs an autojoin feature, i hate coming back from being afk and find out i've almost missed joining a bg, heh
00:32.37CIA-1703nylith * r20308 10nRaidTracker/Core.lua:
00:32.37CIA-17nRaidTracker:
00:32.38CIA-17- Revision SVN tag in Core.lua
00:32.38wallenmarkv: get automaton
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00:32.55nevcairielwasnt BG autojoined banned by blizz?
00:32.55nevcairiel-ed
00:32.59markvnot that i know of
00:33.12nevcairielthere was some reason it was removed from BGFu
00:33.41markvhonor+ for titan panel still had it, but i switched to wowace because of the memory footprint
00:33.43krunk-http://ace.pastey.net/3487
00:33.50markvand i think automaton has it in it
00:34.31gxamit does
00:34.31krunk-refresh it, I updated it to include the toc
00:34.40markvi got thekarn to mod bgfu a bit so you can broadcast to the raid the time remaining on node capture points.
00:35.09krunk-oh! I also used \ instead of / even though I'm on mac...I believe I saw that's how you do it from Loth's discord mod scripts I made
00:36.44kebinusanhmm is skinner kicking up aceaddon errors for anyone else?
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00:39.52nyviaanyone around who can help me with miles enemycasting bars for ag_uf?
00:39.55krunk-Xuerian: any glaring 'hey idiot, you mistyped xyz' findings?
00:40.06Xueriankrunk-: Sorry, doing someone else's homework -_-
00:40.35krunk-Xuerian: fuck all that.
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00:40.55krunk-btw I have the mouth of a sailor, should I keep it clean in this chan or no?
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00:41.39XuerianEh, fuck that :P
00:41.57krunk-oh shit, it worked this time
00:42.08krunk-but not that time
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00:42.16Xuerian:P
00:42.57krunk-that makes no sense. It works leaving Org, but not entering...
00:43.14Soullessanybody getting this c stack overflow
00:43.27KirkburnBeta servers are up
00:43.28Xuerian~devtools
00:43.39purlmethinks devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta
00:43.39krunk-anyway, at least I know the syntax is right now :P
00:43.40Xueriankrunk-: Watch the event monitor on beta devtools to see when it should fire
00:43.50krunk-back to the mother of all warlock mods
00:44.02alexgiegSince the forums aren't up, I posted a more detailed description of what's happening with the new MyBags here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6486#cmnt21249 . If someone can help, thanks. If not, well, I'll wait the forums come back to live and post it there. :)
00:44.16kebinusankrunk sounds scary
00:44.18alexgieglife*
00:45.07rw3<event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'RaidGroupButton5:SetPoint()'.
00:45.07rw3<in C code>: in function `SetPoint'
00:45.13rw3hmmh?
00:45.29XuerianNot my fault this time! XD
00:45.32KirkburnI'm getting a Tourist bug
00:45.36ZeusJuiceanyone try PerfectTargets yet? Is it me or you can't click to target?
00:45.56ggilbertIf I understand what perfect targets is, that would make sense
00:46.08rw3I got that error for RaidGroupButton up to 40
00:46.21Gngskdo I gots ta do anything special for buttons to swap when I go stealth with bt3?
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00:47.34ggilbertZeusJuice: Yup, clicking isn't supposed to work in PerfectTargets any more
00:48.05nebulissomeone can tell me how detox work ??
00:48.11Grogglesis there any way to make main tank target windows go away in ora2?
00:48.25banditronby hiding via the options?
00:48.48ZeusJuiceggilbert...aww cuz of secureframes?
00:49.04ggilbertyeah
00:49.04ZeusJuicedamn...well what's the point of it now
00:49.51ggilbertNoticing when half of the raid doesn't know how to follow the MA? :p
00:50.13ZeusJuiceheh
00:50.24ZeusJuicedoes XRS tell you stats like that?
00:51.11ggilbertI've never used XRS myself
00:52.07kebinusanPriests may not have been changed, but transcendance 3pc was nerfed from 15% regen while casting to a hard Mp5
00:52.12kebinusanhawt
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00:52.23kebinusanlatest beta patch notes btw, not on live
00:52.30kebinusanerr unofficial patch notes
00:52.41Azurewrathlink?
00:52.44ggilbert*fears the notes*
00:53.03testify...
00:53.03kebinusanhttp://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1861019&sid=1&pageNo=2
00:53.03kebinusanmost OP stuff in live got nerfed
00:53.07Azurewrathkebinusan: Thanks
00:53.18kebinusanlifegiving gem, eye of diminuation, fetish of the sandreaver
00:53.30Soullessckknight: www.fridgid.com/patch/error001.jpg www.fridgid.com/patch/error002.jpg www.fridgid.com/patch/error003.jpg www.fridgid.com/patch/error004.jpg www.fridgid.com/patch/error005.jpg www.fridgid.com/patch/error006.jpg www.fridgid.com/patch/error007.jpg
00:53.31kebinusanan interesting shaman change though
00:53.47kebinusan<PROTECTED>
00:53.47kebinusanRequires Level 30
00:53.47kebinusanReturns your totems to the earth giving you 25% of the mana required to cast each totem destroyed by Totemic Call.
00:53.59Soullessi don't know if the glory error is related to the blizzard one, but they happen at the same time every time i exit a bg
00:54.00kebinusanbleh too spammny
00:54.33ckknightSoulless, your GloryLib is out of date
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00:56.04krunk-How many of you guys used lua before moding for wow?
00:56.07ckknightSoulless, the overflow cut off.
00:56.16ckknightkrunk-, not me. I learned by modding.
00:56.39krunk-yeah, I'd never heard of it before...oo think if you could mod with ruby or perl
00:56.51KarlThePaganperl would drive me nuts
00:57.03krunk-hehe I liked perl, but ruby is growing on me
00:57.15banditronbut think of all the awesome maps and greps u could do in perl!
00:57.23ckknightlua is very powerful, krunk-, don't knock it.
00:57.34krunk-oh I'm not...dont' even know it yet.
00:57.48KarlThePaganmeh... you have maps in lua and lua's pattern stuff isn't bad
00:58.01krunk-lua looks ruby'sh to me
00:58.24banditronyah, i'm impressed w/ lua. the oo is hard to see at first, but it is very much there
00:58.32KarlThePaganperl is overrated - it's great for small scripts, but if you try to build too big a system with it you will be hurt badly
00:58.40Soullessckk its not cut off its empty after that
00:58.44ckknightbanditron, the oo isn't ther. We added it.
00:58.45Soullessi dunno why
00:58.49ckknightSoulless, get BugSack.
00:58.53Soullessits the strangest error ive ever seen
00:58.55Barbanusmods with ruby ... oooooo I wish
00:59.19Soullessok lol, but would any ace mods be causing the battlemap error?
00:59.32rw3AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:404: ...ace\AddOns\RosterLib\RosterLib-2.0\RosterLib-2.0.lua:294: Usage: GetRaidRosterInfo(index)
00:59.34rw3:X
00:59.43banditronckknight, and such a good job u seemed to do too.  the metatables are designed for objects only, right?
00:59.52krunk-ckknight: and thank you for that, I was fucking around making a couple of simple mods before and was like..whatever, I'll just go bg
01:00.00alexgiegA bug in oCB. Try typing this: /ocb mirrorbar font spell 12
01:00.35ckknightbanditron, well... it depends.
01:00.37ckknight;-)
01:01.04krunk-KarlThePagan: one could say the same for most interpreted languages
01:01.05ckknightbanditron, I use metatables for all sorts of crazy stuff.
01:01.07testifyYay Saroz fixed the grow up bug! REJOICE!
01:01.23ckknighthere's a fun use of caching with metatables:
01:01.26Xuerianbanditron: Don't  underestimate ckknight's statement.
01:01.34banditronlol
01:01.52banditronthey are a gray box to me.
01:02.02Soullessanybody else notice when you get interupted while casting that oCB keeps progressing the bar?
01:02.07alexgiegBugSack says this about the oCB error: core\frame.lua:47: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
01:02.09KarlThePagankrunk- pretty much...
01:02.21ckknightlocal fibonacci = setmetatable({[0]=0,[1]=1}, {__index = function(self, i) local x = self[i-2] + self[i-1]; self[i] = x; return x end})
01:02.24krunk-KarlThePagan: but they still rock!
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01:02.26ckknightfibonacci sequence, right there.
01:02.39ckknightit's an example of caching/dynamic programming
01:02.42ckknightuses a top-down approach
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01:02.45krunk-ruby is slow as hell :( Luckily slow as hell on todays system is pretty damn snappy
01:02.47ckknightbut is very efficient in doing so
01:03.03JaxonThis channel is huge since I last came in here.
01:03.08ckknightyes, Jaxon
01:03.08banditronwow yep. pretty hot.
01:03.14ckknightsince patchday the pop doubled
01:03.28banditronhaha maybe someone should write a haskell interpreter for wow
01:03.57ckknightbanditron, local t = [[print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t)]]; print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t)
01:03.58JaxonI just came in to ask if someone could recommend a decent damage tracking addon for a party/raid.
01:04.35banditronwhoa wait. what is that doing.
01:04.42XuerianCONFUSING YOU.
01:04.45ckknightthat's a quine.
01:04.45banditronlol
01:04.52Soullesssws works but.....its bulky, and makes your memory goto hell
01:04.56ckknightit outputs itself.
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01:05.05ckknightself-replicating code
01:06.30JaxonSoulless: yeah, resources is something I'm trying to keep to a minimum
01:06.50CIA-1703nymbia * r20309 10MobMitigation/ (3 files):
01:06.50CIA-17MobMitigation:
01:06.50CIA-17- Added frFR, thanks Thetra!
01:06.55Benumbedis it not possible to show party targets with ag unitframes?
01:07.23CIA-1703rabbit * r20310 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Fix GetLevel for AV.
01:07.48SoullessJaxon: i don't know of a low memory stat tracker, it would seem it would be easy to make one, just keep totals not the all the data like sws does but i don't know of one
01:08.28JaxonYeah, I'm trying to compare my pre-patch post-patch damage.
01:08.49Soullessi use sws for long raids, but disable it for everything else
01:09.02KarlThePagantempted to gain "inspiration" from MSBT's parser ;)
01:09.04KarlThePaganand make one
01:09.05Soullessand even then i clear it ever boss so it doesn't add 20 megs to my stuff
01:09.08banditronJaxon, if you figure out the new formulas gimme a shout
01:09.13KarlThePaganbut I gotta finish LHCP
01:10.01banditronJaxon, or if you make a table of your findings that would be good too
01:10.16Jaxonbanditron: new formulas?  I'm just looking to find a decent enough way to spec now that my RAP and agility were thrown in a loop.
01:10.38banditronoh oh. i'm trying to deal with the new spell damage modifiers
01:10.54banditronthe formula they gave in the notes doesn't seem to be true (surprise)
01:12.00KarlThePaganbanditron which spell?
01:12.13banditron+healing and +damage modifiers
01:12.21banditronfor all spells
01:12.43KarlThePaganwell here's the problem... not only did they change the downranking, but they also changed spell cast time coefficients
01:12.50Nomad_WandererWeird Grid error about secure Templates.. anyone else seeing this?
01:13.31KarlThePaganit is pretty wierd... I did a 1700 smite crit the other day on live... and I'm not sure how
01:13.31banditronohh, did they! do you have a link to some info?
01:13.48TheKarnKarlThePagan, in av?
01:13.51KarlThePaganjust old beta.worldofwarcraft.com posts
01:13.59KarlThePaganTheKarn dueling in searing gorge
01:14.10KarlThePagan450 +dmg plus ZHC
01:14.12KarlThePaganplus PI
01:14.18KarlThePaganerr 470 +dmg
01:14.22TheKarnthat would just about do it with the right spec
01:14.30ckknightalright, I have another instance of caching with lua and metatable, banditron
01:14.57KarlThePaganTheKarn yea I was expecting to be able to hit somewhere around 1500 but that's a little more than I expected
01:15.27ckknightbanditron, http://ace.pastey.net/3491 <-- Binomial Coefficient (i.e. the choose function)
01:15.30banditronckknight, hehe hit me
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01:15.56krunk-in method declarations, can I: function self:MyMethod(); end; instead of function MyAddon:MyMethod(); end;?
01:16.10krunk-or this
01:16.12ckknightkrunk-, if you do local self = MyAddon
01:17.18krunk-would that screw up referencing self from within methods?
01:17.28krunk-e.g. return self.message
01:17.40ckknightit uses the innermost variable
01:18.00ckknightso `local self = "monkey" function MyAddon:Thing() return self.boom end` all works
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01:18.47krunk-cool
01:18.55CIA-1703rabbit * r20311 10RosterLib/RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua: .RosterLib-2.0: Prevent nil error when not in raid.
01:19.20CIA-1703rabbit * r20312 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Support more than 100 errors.
01:19.28Arrowmaster`vhaarr: how did you fix getlevel for AV?
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01:19.45CIA-1703rabbit * r20313 10BugSack/BugSack.lua: BugSack: Support more than 100 errors.
01:19.53vid`hmm
01:19.58vid`i get 18 fps in BG now
01:20.00vhaarrArrowmaster`: |return 51, 60| ?
01:20.04vid`used to get 60
01:20.15vid`there any way to see how much load a single mod is?
01:20.24vid`wondering whats doing it
01:20.25Arrowmaster`what was wrong with it?
01:20.29vhaarrArrowmaster`: You can read diffs at google groups.
01:20.36Arrowmaster`k
01:20.41Arrowmaster`those are working again?
01:20.51KarlThePaganvid` tekSupport helps, but it will taint a few things
01:22.24Soullessi take it all these babble errors i'm getting with acelocale-2.0 mean i need to update my babblelibs?
01:22.44ckknightAceLocale-2.0 or AceLocale-2.2?
01:22.49Soulless2.0
01:22.58ckknightBabble-2.0 and AceLocale-2.0 are deprecated
01:23.01Azurewrathuse 2.2 :)
01:23.03ckknightuse Babble-2.2 and AceLocale-2.2
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01:23.21Soullessalright
01:23.39Soullessi guess its a stupid question to ask if i need to save older versions of libs
01:23.49Soullesslike i have ace locale 2.0 2.1 and 2.2
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01:24.02vhaarrTuller: ping
01:24.13Tullervhaarr: hrm?
01:24.15ckknightyou only need 2.2
01:24.17vhaarrTuller: [2006/12/13 02:22:56-435-x1]: vBagnon_Forever\foreverStore.lua:74: ContainerIDToInventoryID(): invalid container ID
01:24.28vhaarrTuller: In TBC 2.0.3.6213
01:24.31TullerI'm aware, blame whatever stupid thing blizz did :P
01:25.07vhaarrTuller: They removed the ability to query ContainerIDToInventoryID for container ID -1.
01:25.15vhaarrthat is to say, the API validates input
01:25.26vhaarrI think it's my fault: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51915488&postId=517108898&sid=1#0
01:25.33vhaarr:P
01:26.29ckknightThey changed the WorldMap icon on the minimap
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01:26.40vhaarrindeed
01:26.46vhaarrit still doesn't have the correct parent, though
01:26.49AntiarcNo rogue changes that I've seen.
01:26.54vhaarrdoes not move with the minimap
01:28.02CIA-1703sayclub * r20314 10rSelfCast/core.lua: rSelfCast: add Korean localization to .lua
01:28.38Arrowmastervhaarr: that diff makes it look like AV is always going to be listed as 51-60, isnt there a 61-70 av?
01:28.42snirkswhats with the post on us war forum about lifegiving gem?
01:28.47Bveranyone know what SecureUnitWatchFrame is?
01:28.48vhaarrArrowmaster: There is not.
01:28.56Bverits raping my mem usage
01:28.56Arrowmasterahh
01:28.58nymbiakergoth: ping
01:29.02Antiarcsnirks: All the trinkets like that got nerfed
01:29.05AntiarcThey scale with level now
01:29.25AntiarcFor example, Renataki's scales with level now, so it's +40 energy at860, rather than 60.
01:29.31nymbiacept the black book. it gets better with level instead of worse. ;)
01:29.33snirksis it still 15% 20sec on 60?
01:30.10AntiarcLikely yes.
01:30.21snirkscan you direct me to where i can read about this change?
01:30.40Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=56116336&sid=1 is a starting point
01:30.57snirksthanks
01:31.04Bveranyone know what SecureUnitWatchFrame is????
01:31.25CIA-1703matini * r20315 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - Add zhTW locale, TBC ore need update
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01:32.08Tullervhaarr: it used to be that the slots returned via ContainerIDToInventoryID would at least be valid :P
01:32.20Tullervhaarr: at least valid enough for me
01:32.38vhaarrTuller: yeah, I've no idea what trouble I've caused :P
01:33.09CIA-1703rabbit * r20316 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0: Don't call event methods twice.
01:33.13TullerI just had to write a function to do it properly Bagnon_GetInvSlot(bag)
01:33.15vhaarrckknight: ^
01:33.28ckknighthrm
01:33.30vhaarrTuller: give me the meat
01:33.32ckknightlemme check
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01:34.09Tullerhttp://ace.pastey.net/3492-17a6
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01:34.53ckknightoh
01:34.55ckknightwhoops, vhaarr
01:35.01vhaarrindeed
01:35.04ckknightthanks for catching.
01:35.35vhaarrwell it wasn't hard to track down once I noticed my functions were actually called twice :P
01:35.58ckknighthrm
01:35.59ckknightokay
01:37.25vhaarrckknight: have you seen the raid icon menu?
01:37.32ckknightno
01:37.52CIA-1703nymbia * r20317 10GrindStatus/ (GrindStatus.toc libs/):
01:37.52CIA-17GrindStatus:
01:37.52CIA-17- Added AceComm embed, as Quixote requires it.
01:37.58ckknightdid it change?
01:38.08vhaarrckknight: It's on player frame right-click if you are officer/leader of a raid, where you have a list of all the raid icons and a toggle icon on the left side and the actual raid icon on the right side of the menu
01:38.15vhaarrI don't think it changed, no.
01:38.38vhaarrckknight: Can I replicate it with AceOptions? I don't think 'icon' is valid on a type="toggle".
01:38.52ckknightvhaarr, hang on, lemme check it out...
01:39.13vhaarrI'm on tempest keep EU if you need a raid.
01:40.28KirkburnHe knows
01:40.33Kirkburnargh
01:40.37KirkburnScrolled up again :/
01:41.03KirkburnI need a giant luminous sign saying "scroll down, fool!"
01:41.43Benumbedanyone running ag_unitframes?
01:42.35lhunathnope, nobody.
01:42.37ckknightvhaarr, hrm... currently you can't do that in Dewdrop
01:42.50Benumbedass =P
01:42.51vhaarrokay
01:43.22Benumbedhaving probs with last few versions showing party targets and /focus frame
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01:44.23KirkburnBenumbed, for how long?
01:44.29Soleheya
01:44.37SachsBenumbed, party targets? :o
01:44.52Benumbedcouple days
01:44.57KirkburnI use ag_UF, but haven't noticed a problem with the focus frame, haven't partied recently though
01:45.00KirkburnErrors?
01:45.05Solehmm so it appears as if UnitCastingInfo  only works when used in a handler for the UNIT_SPELLCAST_START event
01:45.09Benumbedjust doesnt show
01:45.15Benumbedi type /focus and no frame shows
01:45.19KirkburnCould be off the screen?
01:45.37Benumbeddoubtful dunno tho
01:45.57Benumbedand party targets = showing what each target in the party is targetting =x
01:46.15GngskTuller, you around by chance?
01:46.26TullerGngsk: yes
01:46.35Benumbedcant show party pets either, just noticed qq
01:46.49GngskI had a question about bongo action bar, but I can't seem to really figure it out
01:47.00GngskI want an action bar with some things I use often but I don't want to see it
01:47.20Gngskit seems like, if it's not visible in options and I reload UI then I can't use the keybindings
01:47.28KirkburnAnyone need the 2.0.3 enGB patch?
01:47.47BenumbedKirkburn any way you know to reset all frames ?
01:47.53TullerGngsk: the keybindings thing was half fixed in 6.12.07, but there's still some issues with it right now
01:47.54Benumbeddeleted the savedvariables but no go
01:48.27TullerGngsk: either my code or the UI's code does not belive that stances and hidden buttons can exist
01:48.32Gngskk, any quick way I can tell which version I'm running?
01:48.39GngskTuller, ahh ok
01:48.39KirkburnBenumbed, not sure. ag` will know, being the author and all, but ... is he around? Will he respond to my subtle poke? Who knows ...
01:49.50Gngskk, I'm using 6.12.05, I'll try 07
01:50.52Gngskor, 10, since that's what's on wowi :D
01:51.22KirkburnHe just updated WoWI?
01:51.40Gngskdunno
01:51.50Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA&mode=related&search=
01:52.15BarbanusHmmm okay. really strange thing, curious if anyone can help me ... in the dead center of the screen I have some sort of invisible button, that makes my mouse turning not work, its about 10x10 square (like a deadzone that I can't mouselook in), anyone know how I can find out what it is?
01:52.26vhaarrBarbanus: It's ag_UF.
01:52.39vhaarrBarbanus: /print GetMouseFocus()
01:52.51KirkburnGngsk, wait, what WoWI are *you* looking at?
01:53.05SachsAnyone having issues with oRA2 and the MTs never populating the MT frame? :/
01:53.17Gngskhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4744-Bongos.html
01:53.19Gngskthat one
01:53.25Kirkburnaaah
01:53.28Barbanusvhaar, whats that supposed to do?
01:53.31KirkburnI thought you meany vBagnon
01:53.34TullerI updated a typo today
01:53.41Tulleron the page for bongos
01:53.42Kirkburn*meant
01:53.45Tullerbut not the download :)
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01:54.00Gngskwell, eastern kingdom just died on my realm
01:54.01KirkburnI await a fixxored vBagnon with anticipation =)
01:54.09BarbanusI get (table: 1198AD28)
01:55.04Gngsktry /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()
01:55.06krunk-I'm looking for a list of valid values for the type field of the AceOptions table
01:55.42krunk-wait found it :)
01:55.46ckknightor just /print GetMouseFocus() ;-)
01:55.57vhaarrckknight: I just said that, but he must have an old AC.
01:56.07ckknightboo :-(
01:56.07BarbanusAC?
01:56.08vhaarrSince he said "I get (table: 1198AD28)"
01:56.10ckknightAceConsole
01:56.10vhaarrAceConsole.
01:56.27ckknightBarbanus, upgrade your AceConsole, the new /print stuff is shiny.
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01:56.45Benumbedthe 10x10 square is agufgroupframe12
01:56.51Gngskcan I use /print to do all the things I used to /dump ?
01:56.52vhaarrLike I said.
01:56.54Benumbedjust lookeded on mine
01:56.54vhaarrIt's ag_UF.
01:57.01BarbanusHeh, I didnt even know I had AceConsole :P
01:57.08Gngskit's a library
01:57.18ckknightGngsk, yes.
01:57.26Gngskckknight, spiffy
01:57.49Gngskhooray, that is shiny
01:57.56ckknightsure is.
01:58.11GngskTuller, updating to the latest seems to have fixed my issue
01:59.34Benumbedplaying a pet class and my pet not showing with ag is qq =x
01:59.35BarbanusHmmm, so I have the latest version of Ace2 installed, anything specific I should do to upgrade AC?
01:59.46BarbanusSorry, I'm a noob
02:00.10XuerianThat should give you the latest AceConsole, in theory.
02:00.19KirkburnLatest version from /files?
02:00.25BarbanusKirkburn, yea
02:00.37BarbanusProbably some other addon with an out of date external I guess?
02:01.38CIA-1703ckknight * r20318 10Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: .AceHook-2.1 - added in donothing function instead of function() end created every time. Also, when a script is unhooked and the orig is donothing, it will now nil it instead.
02:01.45CrisCr0ssxue is xloot fixed
02:01.48CIA-1703rabbit * r20319 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: Sound: Can turn individual sounds on and off.
02:01.54XuerianCrisCr0ss: Yes
02:02.01CrisCr0sswot
02:02.04CrisCr0sswoot*
02:02.08CrisCr0ssne idea wat prb was
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02:03.40CIA-1703rabbit * r20320 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: .AceDebug-2.0: Fix CustomLevelDebug, thanks Jncl.
02:03.54vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3404.0;topicseen
02:04.18XuerianCrisCr0ss: The way the StaticPopUp killer was matching popups.
02:04.47XuerianCrisCr0ss: Read: The only thing I didn't look at, since I didn't write it.
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02:05.19thalie~dance
02:05.21purlACTION dances a slow dance with [Liquidor] ... ooooooh
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02:06.38Solebleh
02:07.08thalie~dance
02:07.09purlACTION dances a slow dance with axxo_ ... oooooh
02:07.13thalieckewl
02:07.27vhaarrckknight: I see crayon doesn't account for |if worst == best and quality ~= worst then|, but I'll leave it to you.
02:08.01ckknightoh
02:08.01ckknightodd
02:09.58vhaarrbut what used to be green (my FPS display), is now grey for some reason
02:10.01Soleso its confirmed,  UnitCastingInfo  only works inside a handler for UNIT_SPELLCAST_START
02:10.14xlviican anyone crack md5? E87D4CF8D12F6752F4541E4ABF470CD084AFE6C1
02:10.24Solehmm that makes things harder for me
02:10.24thaliecan't purl do it
02:10.54thalieapparently not
02:10.59Barbanusvhaarr Yea, so its aUFgroupAnchorgroup12
02:11.00vhaarr.. crack?
02:11.02lhunathxlvii: what are you talking about?
02:11.03vhaarrit's just a hash.
02:11.17lhunathxlvii: do you have any idea what md5 is?
02:11.25xlviii know it's encryption..
02:11.31lhunathguess you don't
02:11.37xlviimeh..
02:11.38vhaarrit's not encryption.
02:11.48CIA-1703ckknight * r20321 10CrayonLib/Crayon-2.0/Crayon-2.0.lua: .Crayon-2.0 - bugfixing
02:11.55ckknighthashing != encryption
02:13.50vhaarrckknight: pretty strange, my FPS display is still gray where it should've been green.
02:14.27vhaarrhrm
02:14.28vhaarrcrayon:GetThresholdHexColor(framerate / 60)
02:15.38ckknightodd
02:15.38ckknightoh
02:15.38ckknightwhoops
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02:15.39KirkburnOh yeah, my 100% durability went grey too :P
02:15.39rw3mine's green
02:15.39KirkburnHow recently did you update though?
02:15.39CIA-1703ckknight * r20322 10CrayonLib/Crayon-2.0/Crayon-2.0.lua: .Crayon-2.0 - whoopsie doodle.
02:15.39ckknightthat should fix it
02:15.40vhaarr^^
02:15.54rw3Kirkburn yeah maybe it's more than 10 minutes ago
02:15.58KirkburnDammit, spawn mobs on Tempest Keep! :(
02:16.17vhaarrstill grey here
02:16.58ckknightvhaarr, your FPS?
02:17.11vhaarryeah
02:17.11vhaarr~70
02:17.19thaliehave i mentioned that i hate you
02:17.19vhaarrckknight: But what color should this return: crayon:GetThresholdHexColor(framerate / 60) ?
02:17.20thalie70 fps?  srsly.  :)
02:17.22ckknightgreen, vhaarr
02:17.27vhaarrright
02:17.30xlviidoes wow cap fps?
02:17.30vhaarrit's grey
02:17.32vhaarrgray
02:17.33vhaarrwhatever
02:17.48xlviii heard it was something to do with my processor. (amd x2)
02:17.57Soullesslibrary location doesn't matter so long as it gets loaded correct?
02:18.05vhaarrSoulless: correct
02:18.29Soullessand i don't need to update the links in the toc files either correct?
02:18.51Soullessaka if i remove the embedded libs
02:19.00thalie~dance
02:19.02purlACTION dances the macarena with snirks
02:19.15vhaarrckknight: In the DurabilityFu tooltip, it seems the green values (my items range from 70-100% durability) are sharper towards 70 and dimmer towards 100.
02:19.17Soullessdo i need to delete the reference in that files toc or does it not matter so long as the lib get loaded somehow
02:19.26vhaarrckknight: which is opposite of what I'd expect.
02:19.28ckknightvhaarr, check the durabilityfu code
02:19.40ckknightwhether it gets the trivial or non-trivial threshold color
02:19.50Neriakckknight is stealing the game's colors ...
02:20.00Neriakgood night ;)
02:20.57vhaarrckknight: local r, g, b = Crayon:GetThresholdColor(percent)
02:21.08ckknightweird
02:21.21thaliesvn is out of sync again?
02:21.29vhaarrckknight: want a screenshot, or did you understand my description?
02:21.33ckknightI do
02:21.39ckknightunderstand, that is
02:21.44vhaarrexcellent
02:22.32Makkhttp://irc.istoleyour.info/
02:22.35Makkmihihi
02:22.40ckknightcommit coming
02:22.57CIA-1703ckknight * r20323 10CrayonLib/Crayon-2.0/Crayon-2.0.lua: .Crayon-2.0 - streamlined percentage-checking algorithm
02:23.29thaliepurl fails
02:23.30purlI fail?  I FAIL?  NO, YOU FAIL!!!
02:23.40vhaarrckknight: Better :)
02:23.44XuerianNice :P
02:23.49ckknightvhaarr, does it work now?
02:23.58Benumbedscrewed around with ag for an hour, looking in code...still cant show party pets =x
02:24.04vhaarrckknight: It would seem so, yes.
02:24.08ckknightyays
02:24.32thalie~hug zicon
02:24.34purlACTION sneaks up on zicon and suddenly hugs zicon tightly
02:24.46thaliemouahahha
02:25.28Soullessparserlib-1.1 and parser-2.0 are two different things?
02:25.48Soullesswhere can i download parser-2.0
02:25.58Soullessnm, svn
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02:26.53thalie~dance
02:26.54purlACTION dirty dances with Jens ... oooooh
02:27.11Barbanusvhaarr, do you know any work around for this aguf issue?
02:27.19vhaarrBarbanus: I do not.
02:27.21thaliemaybe you should ask ag, he wrote it
02:27.29thaliejust a thought, like
02:27.30Barbanuskk, thanks
02:27.37Barbanusits annoying, lol
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02:27.52SachsGief RSS feed of the SVN updates. ;P
02:27.53vhaarrckknight: |/script for i = 1, 100 do local r,g,b = AceLibrary("Crayon-2.0"):GetThresholdColor(i / 100); DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tostring(i), r, g, b) end| prints from red to green :)
02:28.08ckknighthooray
02:28.33nymbia_Sachs: there is one ;)
02:28.52nymbia_http://groups-beta.google.com/group/wowace/feeds?hl=en
02:29.03SachsSuhweet.
02:29.13vhaarrThere are 2, actually.
02:29.18vhaarrCIA provides their own feeds.
02:29.37nymbia_ah, neat.
02:29.39vhaarrThere used to be 3 with TRAC.
02:29.49Barbanusthalie, I dont believe ag is currently here .. haven't seen him talk in awhile
02:30.11thalie~seen ag`
02:30.45purlag` is currently on #wowi-lounge (6h 8m 20s) #wowace (6h 8m 20s), last said: 'I posted the error there... It happens when you exit a BG ckk'.
02:30.45Soullesswhere can i find parser-2.0? its not on http://www.wowace.com/files/
02:30.45nymbia_Soulless: svn branches.  i'm not sure it's even close to usable.
02:30.45vhaarrSoulless: You don't need it.
02:30.46Soullessgood enough :)
02:31.21SachsoRA2 needs an option to turn of MTTT.
02:31.42vhaarrIt does, you need to update.
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02:31.57Sachs:o
02:32.00SachsIt does?
02:32.01SachsWhere!
02:32.06SachsAnd when was this added? :o
02:32.15nymbia_last night
02:32.19SachsRev?
02:32.54nymbia_just grab latest
02:33.08thalie~dance
02:33.15purlACTION dirty dances with kergoth ... oooooh
02:33.15SachsThat's too easy.
02:35.49CIA-1703rabbit * r20324 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFu.lua: FuBar_ClockFu: Prevent odd error where COLOR is nil.
02:36.21Rophyhttp://ace.pastey.net/3494
02:36.45Rophywhen I try to include AceOO-2.0 in lua5.1 binary, it seems to replace the dot with a slash, am I doing something wrong?
02:38.05ckknightRophy, use loadfile, not require
02:38.20RophyI tried "module = loadfile "./Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua"  module()
02:38.26ckknightand put .lua on the end
02:38.35ckknightyou don't call it.
02:39.04RophyIf i don't call it it seems to not actually executing the file.
02:40.01Rophyloadfile("Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua")
02:40.01Rophyif( AceLibrary ) then print("YES") else print("NO") end
02:40.09Rophythe result is "NO"
02:40.42Rophyand if I do "module = loadfile "./Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua"  module()" then it worked, but there are errors on AceOO when loading so I think may be I did the wrong thng.
02:41.04ckknightdid you get any errors?
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02:41.19ckknightwhat errors did AceOO get?
02:41.35Rophylua5.1: ./Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua:71: attempt to index local 'arg' (a nil
02:41.35Rophyalue)
02:41.35Rophystack traceback:
02:41.36Rophy<PROTECTED>
02:41.36Rophy<PROTECTED>
02:41.36Rophy<PROTECTED>
02:41.38Rophy<PROTECTED>
02:41.40Rophy<PROTECTED>
02:41.41ckknightthe main issue I bet is that AceLibrary was made for use within WoW. It probably doesn't work outside of WoW
02:41.43Rophyoops sorry for the spam
02:42.15thalie~rophy
02:42.16purlrophy is probably a spammer
02:42.16banditron~stab rophy
02:42.18purlACTION runs at rophy with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
02:42.48Rophyhttp://ace.pastey.net/3495
02:43.08ckknightanyone know much about maps, and specifically the creation of maps from minimap textures?
02:43.09Rophythis is the code from AceOO, the error comes from the line arg[i] = getlibrary(select(i, ...) )
02:43.31Rophylooks like the arg = {} outside function cannot be seen by the function.
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02:43.38nymbiackknight: not much.  i think that mod that does it will probably be your best reference.
02:43.46ckknightwhich mod?
02:43.50ckknightyatlas?
02:43.53nymbiayeah
02:43.55ckknightI can't use that, doesn't have instances.
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02:44.19FryGuyckknight: can you rephrase your question? I know about mipmaps
02:44.30FryGuyer crap
02:44.33nymbiaoh you're just looking to replace the instance .blps with the minimap textures?
02:44.35FryGuyi thought you said mipmaps :x
02:44.38FryGuyignore me :p
02:44.39ckknightFryGuy, WoW has a shitload of minimap textures, and I don't know which ones go to where.
02:44.47ckknightnymbia, if I can
02:45.01SachsIs there any way to dim down the colors oRA2 uses?
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02:45.11kergoththere must be some sort of system, a mapping of name/path in the mpq to coordinates in the minimap.  i wonder what it is
02:45.34Kaeltenback
02:45.36banditronit's CoRE
02:45.37Kaeltenhows it goin guys?
02:45.42ckknightkergoth, could be in the C, though
02:45.48kergoth:(
02:45.48thalie~dance
02:45.49purlACTION dances a slow dance with frus ... oooooh
02:45.51ckknightKaelten, map issues :-(
02:45.56thalieits goin good kael ;)
02:45.59Kaeltenckknight: what kinda map issues?
02:46.01Rophyso anyone actually tried running Ace2 with lua binary, outside WoW?
02:46.06KaeltenI just got my main xmas present
02:46.17RophyI see that there are test suites in the svn so I think it should work.
02:46.18nymbialikely that the yatlas author pulled all the data from the mpqs..
02:46.22Kaelten19" flat panel
02:46.27ckknightKaelten, WoW has a shitload of minimap textures. I want to somehow create instance maps from those.
02:46.28nymbiaKaelten: nice :D
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02:46.54kergothRophy, of course people have run ace2 outside of wow.  i've certainly done it in wowbench.. but i doubt anyone has -since 2.0/lua51-
02:47.04Kaeltenthanks has a 4ms response time so it should be pretty good
02:47.05nymbiaKaelten: in case you weren't aware, [code][/code] is broke in the new forum
02:47.14ggilbert__kergoth: Check out the Dell e207 WPF
02:47.14Kaeltennymbia: nope wasn't aware
02:47.19Kaeltenwhat did you do to it?
02:47.29nymbiaonly bits of the text show up
02:47.31nymbiait's funky
02:47.31kergothwow may have some of the COMPAT_ flags set in their lua interpreter that your standalone one doesn't
02:47.35kergothggilbert__, hmmk
02:47.56Rophyhmmm....
02:47.58ggilbert__kergoth: Looks to be a 2005 without the extra bells and whistles and about 290 bucks
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02:48.12kergoth290 bucks.. damn
02:48.13nymbiakergoth: have you started anything with the cartographer loot tables at all?
02:48.21kergothnaw, been busy with my new/old job
02:48.27kergothand slacking before that
02:48.29kergoth:P
02:48.46nymbiaok.  i was thinking of starting on it, just wanted to make sure i wasnt gonna be reinventing the wheel ;)
02:48.53ckknightnymbia, I made API to help with it
02:49.20nymbiackknight: anything other than the side tablet functions?
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02:49.30ckknightwhat else do you need?
02:49.55nymbiathat should be it, really.
02:51.20thalie~dance
02:51.22purlACTION dances the samba with renchap
02:51.39[CC]Sleepne 1 hav winamp
02:51.43[CC]Sleep5.2+?
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02:51.59CIA-1703sayclub * r20325 10kEnergy/ (Locale/koKR.lua kEnergy.toc): kEnergy: Added locals koKR
02:52.02vhaarrhttp://winamp.com/
02:52.11CrisCr0ssno i dun wanna reinstall i jus want 1 filee
02:52.16CrisCr0ssml_pmp.dll and ml_ipod.dll
02:52.17nymbiajust off the top of my head before looking at it, is there OnMouseUp stuff in the notes that i should hook or something else?
02:56.08ckknightnotes?
02:56.16ckknightnymbia, you can have OnClick.
02:56.24nymbiaok
02:57.07ckknights/have/override
02:57.24CIA-1703rabbit * r20326 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0: Nuke some remnants of AceCoreAddon-2.0.
02:58.10ckknightAceModuleCore-2.0?
02:59.03vhaarr?
02:59.25ckknightAceCoreAddon-2.0 isn't real.
02:59.43ckknightcan someone extract their 2.0.3 FrameXML and email it to me?
03:00.03nymbiasure
03:00.08Baraius<PROTECTED>
03:00.09nymbia~framexml
03:00.20purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip
03:01.28ckknightyea, doesn't work for me, nymbia
03:01.40vhaarrckknight: Exactly, which is why I removed references to it.
03:01.46nymbiayeah i was just getting the link since i had deleted mine
03:01.50ckknightah.
03:01.52ckknightfair enough.
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03:02.32nymbiackknight: address?
03:02.38ckknightckknight at gmail
03:03.10nymbiaon the way
03:03.59Soullessdoes the order of librarys loading matter?
03:04.08nymbiaSoulless: generally, yes.
03:04.30Soullessyeah, so alphabatizing my libs toc was prob a bad call lol, prob explains why my shit just exploded
03:04.40nymbiathat'd do it ;)
03:04.41ckknightprobably.
03:04.47ckknightthere's a tree to follow
03:04.58Soullessace library needs to be at the top
03:05.01Soullessor somewhere close
03:05.09ckknightAceLibrary, AceOO, all other Ace* stuff, other libs
03:05.10ckknightbasically.
03:05.14thalie~dance
03:05.16purlACTION dances the macarena with andremar
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03:05.18Soullessalright, thats what it was but lol
03:05.44Soullesswell it looks pretty inside the toc this way hah >_>
03:06.18Antiar1CC is back in queue land >_<
03:06.27Boobies4uckknight, is it you that made the honorfu for fubar?
03:06.31ckknightyes
03:06.55Boobies4uis it updated yet? cause i get some crystal-2.0 lib error when i exit a bg
03:07.02Boobies4uor something similar :P
03:07.11Soullesssorry i asked this earlier, but can anybody confirm that you can get the info for 40 debuffs and 32 buffs with current api?
03:07.20Soullessi tried it earlier and no dice
03:07.41ckknightno such thing as Crystal-2.0
03:07.56Boobies4uwell um
03:07.59Boobies4uit was something on C :P
03:08.04Boobies4ua lib thing
03:08.10Boobies4uil check after this warsong
03:08.14Boobies4uand print screen it
03:08.53ckknightget !BugGrabber and BugSack.
03:09.10ckknightyour printscreen won't help me
03:09.16Boobies4uwell
03:09.21Boobies4ui dont know much about this
03:09.29Boobies4ui basicly just know where to put an addon to install it heh
03:09.55[sleeping]Trimblhey CKk... you gonna do interview on WowRadio
03:09.56[sleeping]Trimbl?
03:10.01ckknightyes, [sleeping]Trimbl
03:10.05thaliethat will be awesome
03:10.05[sleeping]TrimblUber :)
03:10.13ckknightit'll be live
03:10.16Boobies4uand in warsong gulch there is also a bug when you click theh onor fu to select the enemy flag carrier, something about "GetTargetByName" thing
03:10.17ckknightand I expect all your support
03:10.28thaliei will be there ck
03:10.30ckknightBoobies4u, yea, can't help with that.
03:10.35[_Trimble_]Clad interviewed too, and completely forgot to talk about Clique.. i was so disappointed
03:10.35thalieto ask what happened to cladhaire - live on the air
03:10.36thaliejk
03:10.37ckknightBoobies4u, WoW 2.0 stopped that
03:10.46Soullessyeah
03:10.52ckknight[_Trimble_], when did clad interview?
03:11.00[_Trimble_]a couple weeks ago
03:11.01Soullessit was a great feature, but the mod targeting this got quashed
03:11.04Soullessrip
03:11.04thaliewhich show trimble?
03:11.05ckknighthrm, okay
03:11.06[_Trimble_]they did Cide the other day
03:11.17thaliei don't remember clad interviewing
03:11.27Soullessanybody know which network cide is on?
03:11.28[_Trimble_]I dunno, I'd have to check if I still have the archive... if not, it should be on WCRadio's archives
03:11.46ckknightCide was on WoW Things Considered
03:11.49thaliecide is normally on wowi-lounge if he's on
03:11.51ckknighta week and a half ago
03:11.55thalie~seen cide
03:12.16purlcide <n=Cide@81-226-233-5-no60.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 9m 49s ago, saying: 'in fact, I got my ass handed to me by a level 60 warlock... at level 67'.
03:12.17[_Trimble_]Clad was on...   damn, I can't remember.. user interface?  
03:12.36thaliei'll check the archives anyway
03:12.39Boobies4uckknight, its Glory-2.0, the lib that errors heh
03:12.50ckknightBoobies4u, I know, did you get BugSack?
03:13.05Boobies4uno
03:13.09Boobies4uwhat is it heh
03:13.37[_Trimble_]clad may have been on a different one.. maybe world of warcast.. I can't find it
03:13.37ckknightget !BugGrabber and BugSack, you'll be able to give me a real error
03:14.01ckknightI dunno, Cide was on WoW Things Considered, so I asked to be on, and they said sure
03:14.08[_Trimble_]cool :)
03:14.09ckknightI didn't pay too much attention
03:14.14[_Trimble_]w
03:14.21TheKarnis that a "real error" for a "real boy"?
03:14.33ckknightlook, mommy, wow. I'm a big boy now
03:14.56nymbiackknight: did he talk about how bad it was to use english names in map note storage/communication?
03:15.10ckknightlol, no
03:15.14nymbiarofl
03:15.19ckknighthe was quite non-hostile, actually.
03:16.14ckknightnot sure what approach I should really take :-P
03:16.24[_Trimble_]found it.. Clad was on World of warcraft video podcast
03:16.24Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Wow_Shop :)
03:16.27Boobies4uckknight, now i have installed the 2 mods, and restarted wow, now what do i do
03:16.41[_Trimble_]http://www.podcastalley.com/podcast_details.php?pod_id=43358
03:16.43ckknightBoobies4u, go and reproduce the error.
03:16.44AntiarcBoobies4u: Produce the error and check BugSack
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03:16.53Boobies4uok
03:16.56nymbiaKaelten: neat
03:16.57AntiarcIt'll give you a full stack trace that is a billion times more useful than "IT BLEW UP"
03:16.58Antiarc:)
03:17.09Boobies4ublew up works for george bush
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03:17.41banditronstay the course, Boobies4u
03:17.47ZeusJuiceAnyone finding Closetgnome lagging when changing sets?
03:17.57ckknightlol, banditron
03:18.04ckknightmmm... yellow cake
03:18.05nymbiackknight: i'd say just discuss the advantages of Ace2, shared libraries, that sort of thing.  And Cartographer, of course ;)
03:18.05thaliethe first rule of closetgnomes is that we do not complain about closetgnome
03:18.20ckknightnymbia, well, my perspective isn't from that of an addon author
03:18.23ckknightI'm a framework author
03:18.33ckknightquite different
03:18.47thalie~emulate xuerian
03:18.52purlI have no idea why it's broken.
03:18.59Kaeltennymbia: it shouldn't be editable by anyone  confirm?
03:19.07Xuerianthalie: I'm going to win "Most Emulated", thanks to you.
03:19.14thaliehe sure says that a lot
03:19.22ckknightbut yes, I plan to talk about Ace2, FuBar, Cartographer, and whoever wants a shoutout
03:19.28Xuerianzomg, I should sue for copyright infringement! o.o
03:19.31Boobies4uckknight, what was that other bug mod i installed, what is that for?
03:19.35Boobies4uthe !bugtrace
03:19.40ckknight!BugGrabber
03:19.44ckknightBugSack uses it.
03:19.48ckknightit's a library, essentially.
03:19.51Boobies4uok
03:19.52vhaarrZeusJuice: Do you have something like ItemBonusesLib installed?
03:19.57ckknightBugSack is just the GUI
03:19.57Boobies4uso its not an irc thing
03:19.58Boobies4uheh
03:20.02nymbiaKaelten: yeah i'd say lock it down
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03:20.35PProvostI need a couple of beta testers for WAU 1.6.
03:20.38Boobies4uckknight, i could need a shoutout
03:20.43Boobies4uil give you 100 gold
03:20.55vhaarr:P
03:20.57ckknightlol, gold means nothing to me
03:20.59ckknightI don't play WoW
03:21.05[_Trimble_]lol
03:21.23thaliemake sure to say that in the interview ck
03:21.24vhaarrckknight: Shout out to BugSack and Big Wigs, like I poked you about initially.
03:21.28CIA-1703antiarc * r20327 10Sanity2/ (5 files): Sanity2: Fixed a problem that caused Sanity to not be able to populate bank data when using mods that replace the BankFrame (BankFrame:IsVisible() no worky), and fixed linking/splitting items from the Sanity window.
03:21.32[_Trimble_]make sure NOT to mention that, CK lol
03:21.37thalieno, mention it
03:21.41[_Trimble_]hehe
03:21.42XuerianSee, Boobies4u, authors are a special breed. We pay 14$ a month to write addons. Actually playing the game is a foreign concept.
03:21.49PProvostInterview?
03:21.57thaliemention WHY you do it - that you aren't doing it just to make your own experience better
03:22.04ckknightvhaarr, oh, totally
03:22.06Boobies4uok, whatever
03:22.07thalieck is going on wowradio
03:22.09ckknightI plan to shout out to the major Ace2 mods
03:22.18XuerianDevTools can't go without a shout.
03:22.20chuckgPour one out for your peoples.
03:22.24ckknightXuerian, yes it can.
03:22.27XuerianLies.
03:22.28ckknightI will vanquish it, Xuerian
03:22.30ckknightI'm so close.
03:22.30XuerianFilthy, dirty lies.
03:22.38nymbiaeveryone knows about devtools anyway
03:22.46ZeusJuicevhaarr: no itembonuses installed
03:24.16ckknightwhat all does DevTools provide?
03:24.44SachsPProvost, I'll do eet.
03:25.02ckknightmeh
03:25.07PProvostOne sec... Sachs
03:25.45ckknightoh well
03:25.51ckknightI have vanquished /dump
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03:27.37CIA-1703xuerian * r20328 10KC_Items/ (KC_Items.toc core/common/math.lua):
03:27.37CIA-17KC_Items: Update to KC_Common:Median as per ultra-secret request. You do not see any other files updated, this is not the mod author you are looking for. <Waves hand>
03:27.37CIA-17~flee
03:27.39purlACTION runs away screaming
03:27.51thaliehahaa
03:27.55Boobies4uckknight, will you remove the rank and rating info on honorfu aswell
03:27.58Boobies4unow that ranks are gone
03:28.03Boobies4uits in the way :P
03:28.08nymbiarofl Xuerian
03:28.38thaliei couldn't commit the fix myself lol
03:29.03Xuerian<3
03:34.24kergothjesus the  markup on some shit is crazy.  go to best buy yesterday to buy a usb cable, they want $35 for a 6 foot
03:34.36kergothhop on pricewatch, order a 6 foot usb 2.0 cable for $2.95 with free shipping
03:34.54AntiarcWow, amazing set bonuses on the rogue Tier 5
03:34.58ZeusJuicemonoprice.com has great cable
03:35.00BarbanusBoobies4me!??
03:35.03Antiarc(2) Your Evis and Envenom cause an additional 40 damage per CP
03:35.04BarbanusALL FOR ME!?!
03:35.06Barbanus:P
03:35.13Antiarc(4) Your attacks have a chance to make your next finisher cost zero energy
03:35.23kergothooh
03:35.23thaliekc_items works now
03:35.24PProvostWowAceUpdater v1.6-beta1 is now available for download and testing at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. Please report any bugs or suggestions to the forums at the project site or to me here. Thanks
03:35.31Xueriankergoth: You can get a 6ft usb cable at dollar tree for... one dollar.
03:35.43kergothaw
03:35.52AntiarcThey "buffed" WEx so it's +10 skill for 2 points, so you get...+1% crit on +3 mobs.
03:35.55AntiarcUtter trash.
03:36.05anenigmaYeah
03:36.11kergothwheres the 2.0.3 patch notes?
03:36.11NickenyfikenPProvost: !
03:36.17Kirkburnkergoth, there aren't any
03:36.22kergoth:(
03:36.23AntiarcRenataki's took a nerf.
03:36.27KirkburnMainlu bug fixes and quests additions
03:36.34BarbanusHeh, I love the bugged 40 pnt pally talent :P
03:36.44[_Trimble_]did blizzard change the MAxxnea timers?
03:36.53Xueriankergoth: They changed most %+ items to set amounts.
03:37.08Xueriankergoth: In addition to nerfing druids.
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03:37.23anenigmaAntiarc: isn't it like "+1% of your crit rating" or something weird like that?  weapon skill, that si
03:37.27[_Trimble_]Bigwigs was 5 seconds late on maexxna timers.. got us all killed... sigh
03:37.43Solehmm
03:37.47Barbanuslol maexxna is the easiest fight in the world
03:38.07[_Trimble_]yeah, if you time it right.. lol
03:38.08BarbanusI'll tell you in about 20 mins if LaVendetta has the right ones
03:38.17[_Trimble_]ok
03:38.20Antiarcanenigma: Something like that. It's utter trash, regardless.
03:38.24BarbanusWe are on grand widow atm :P
03:38.38AntiarcWe had serious problems with the sac on Faerlina last night
03:38.46AntiarcThe priests were claiming it had a 3 sec cast time now.
03:38.52Soleanybody here know if I can use UnitCastingInfo in a handler for the event UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP  to find out which spell was stopped?
03:39.05BarbanusAntiarc, it has a casttime .. not sure what it is tho
03:39.06Solejust asking here before I test it myself
03:39.24NickenyfikenPProvost: i would like to see that the "Show Group" setting is saved between sessions
03:39.44PProvostYeah. I forgot that one.
03:39.54AntiarcWhatever it was, our priests couldn't hit her with it last night. Really frustrating.
03:40.00[_Trimble_]my priest says Sac was an instant tonight
03:40.19[_Trimble_]weird
03:40.59Nomad_WandererWe had a ton of trouble with it last night it was variable.
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03:41.22PProvostNickenyfiken, have you filed that to the tracker?
03:41.43NickenyfikenPProvost: nope
03:41.45TheKarnpurl, i'm bored
03:41.47purlgo touch yourself thekarn
03:41.49Barbanusmeh, our priests are having resist issues
03:41.54[_Trimble_]we had some animation problems with maexxna.. she wouldn't turn for some reason
03:42.06thalie~dance
03:42.08purlACTION dirty dances with CIA-17 ... oooooh
03:42.15Gngskanyone else have issues with mobhealth being blocked when trying to focus someone?
03:42.22Xuerianlol
03:42.29XuerianBot-on-bot action o.o
03:42.59thaliecool, autobar is skinning properly with cycircled now
03:43.05zoktarany simple addon to detach the chatbutton ?
03:43.38Boobies4uckknight
03:43.44Boobies4uwhen i use bugsack, do i still get up the error frames
03:43.48Boobies4uor is they hidden now
03:43.57ckknightno, click on the bugsack plugin
03:44.05Boobies4uclick?
03:44.08Boobies4uwhere is icon? :P
03:44.17ckknightit's a green bag on FuBar, likely
03:44.20ckknightor around the minimap
03:44.30Barbanusthats the best feature of it!
03:44.35ckknightor type /bugsack show session
03:44.39BarbanusNothing worse that fucking popups in the middle of teh raid
03:45.05vhaarrBugSack shouldn't pop up.
03:45.07vhaarrDoes it?
03:45.11Boobies4uah
03:45.14Boobies4ui see it
03:45.18TheKarn~thekarn
03:45.19purlTHOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN!
03:45.23Barbanusvhaarr, it doesnt :)
03:45.25Hockanyone have any henge screenshots?
03:45.28vhaarrgood
03:45.45TheKarnhock, imagine a circle with your health in the middle
03:45.50TheKarnthats all henge is useful for atm.
03:45.55Barbanusvhaarr, which is the best feature of it :)
03:46.01Hockoh, ok
03:46.03vhaarrlol
03:46.04Hockthanks
03:46.13vhaarrIf that is the best feature of it, it needs work :P
03:46.15TheKarn~thekarn
03:46.19purlTHOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN!
03:46.29TheKarn~thekarn
03:46.30purlTHOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN!
03:46.33TheKarnhmm
03:46.39TheKarnwhy isnt it using the others?
03:46.47vhaarr~literal TheKarn
03:46.48purl"thekarn" is "(<action>lolsmitecrits $who for 1337|<action>dies a little inside.|<reply>THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN!)"
03:47.10Soulless3/3 maybe just dumb luck
03:47.20Barbanus~thekarn
03:47.21purlACTION dies a little inside.
03:47.31TheKarnthats better
03:47.36TheKarn~thekarn
03:47.38purlACTION dies a little inside.
03:47.41TheKarndamnit
03:47.43thalie~vhaarr
03:47.45purlsilly rabbit, closetgnome is for kids.
03:47.45TheKarnlolsmitecrit me
03:47.55BarbanusI swear the random in that bot isnt really random
03:47.56vhaarr:(
03:48.00Barbanusit seems to cache or something
03:48.09thalieyou don't like that vhaarr?  :)  aww
03:48.23kergoth~emulate peter
03:48.24purlYou know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you.
03:48.24TheKarn~thekarn
03:48.25purlACTION lolsmitecrits thekarn for 1337
03:48.48thalie~emulate xuerian
03:48.50purlXLoot is driving me crazy.
03:48.50TheKarn~emulate thekarn
03:49.27PProvostWow... 36k downloads of WAU 1.5
03:49.54SachsPProvost, what's new in 1.6? ;P
03:50.20PProvostIncluded bugfixes submitted by sylvannar for sorting and for when the files server is down or broken.
03:50.32Boobies4uckknight, when i find the bug in bugsack, what do i do
03:50.38PProvostBut I can't test the sorting thing, so I need someone to test it on WIndows XP
03:50.39Boobies4ucopy paste into a text file?
03:50.41SachsCoo', coo'.
03:50.47SachsDoin' it. ;P
03:50.51ckknightBoobies4u, you copy it, then paste it to ace.pastey.net
03:50.57SachsSorted it fine on start up.
03:51.16Funkeh`PProvost, progrss bar? :P
03:51.34Funkeh`progress*
03:51.38PProvostFunkeh`, not yet. :)
03:51.42Funkeh`aww :(
03:51.50CIA-1703nymbia * r20329 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
03:51.50CIA-17GrindStatus:
03:51.50CIA-17- Fix for problems getting rep data at load.
03:51.53PProvostLemme see what I can do. :)
03:51.57Funkeh`yey!
03:52.01Funkeh`:p
03:52.20Funkeh`server shutdown in 9 minutes :/ give more honour!
03:52.23PProvostWith everyone bitching about the sorting and claiming that it was "unusable without sorting" I figured that mattered more.
03:52.38ckknightfeature I think would be useful in Tourist: how many yards a zone is
03:52.51Funkeh`hmm?
03:53.02Funkeh`what would be the advantages fo that
03:53.07Funkeh`of*
03:53.56Funkeh`vhaarr: nice with the sound options :)
03:54.01vhaarr^^
03:54.12Nickenyfikenhehe
03:54.14vhaarrhm
03:54.15vhaarrI'll make it even nicer.
03:54.21CIA-1703sayclub * r20330 10SliceWatcher/SliceWatcher.lua: SliceWatcher: -add Korean localization to .lua
03:54.30ckknightFunkeh`, knowing how big a zone is.
03:54.32TheKarnheh i could just imagine DrDre rolling a warlock
03:54.43DrDreO.o
03:54.50CIA-1703ag * r20331 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua:
03:54.50CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
03:54.50CIA-17<PROTECTED>
03:54.51DrDrewhy you say that lol
03:55.01Funkeh`ckknight: but in what kind of situation would it be used
03:55.11ckknightFunkeh`, positioning minimap icons in Cartographer.
03:55.23Funkeh`ok :)
03:55.44ckknightor finding the amount of yards from one point to another
03:56.19CIA-1703rabbit * r20332 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: Sound: Ctrl-Click a sound to preview.
03:56.19CIA-1703ag * r20333 10QlickSilver/QlickSilver.lua:
03:56.19CIA-17QlickSilver
03:56.19CIA-17<PROTECTED>
03:56.41TheKarn~qlicksilver
03:57.07TheKarnag`,what is qlicksilver
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03:57.21ag`It's going be like
03:57.33ag`a frontend for unit frame attributes
03:57.43ag`kinda like clique
03:57.48ag`but without the huge gui
03:58.02ag`just a dewdrop / aceconsole whatever
03:58.20KirkburnNice name
03:58.29kergoth~emulate chris
03:58.33purlWhen I stick this army guy with the sharp bayonette up my nose, it tickles my brain. Hah hah hah ... ow. Oh, now I don't know math.
03:58.36ag`I know my reasoning is lame, but, I like having the addons I use on the SVN
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03:59.07TheKarnArdbeg, crymore?
03:59.09ag`Sure, I don't mind, clique is a great addon
03:59.13TheKarn~seen ardbeg
03:59.31purli haven't seen 'ardbeg', TheKarn
03:59.31syerenHow do I use !!Warmup? Since my latest WAU Rev update, my Load time on world loading screen has gone from around 8 seconds to 50+
03:59.31CIA-1703rabbit * r20334 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: Sound: Meh.
03:59.31syerenWhich is obviously not so cool :(
04:00.07vhaarrag`: Gah, you beat me to it.
04:00.25vhaarrag`: I was going to make DoctorWhack.
04:00.26Sachssyeren, got the whole Cache directory structure fixed?
04:00.32Boobies4uah well ckknight, screw this
04:00.37Boobies4utoo advanced for me
04:00.46ag`vhaarr: I don't care about what name we use
04:00.49AntiarcIs there a library for fading between colors?
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04:01.01Antiarcie, I want to fade from red to green based on an input [0..1]
04:01.06syerenYes Sachs, maybe it was writing new files or something :/
04:01.14Funkeh`syeren: did you actually read the description?
04:01.16syerenCache\enGB\
04:01.22vhaarrag`: Oh, you haven't actually made any code yet?
04:01.28Sachssyeren, Cache\WDB\enGB\
04:01.36syerenI have WDB :p
04:01.39syerenI forgot the whole path :p
04:01.40ag`vhaarr: no, I plan to within this week
04:01.44vhaarrag`: aha
04:01.45SachsGood, then. ;P
04:01.45Makkrealms down :)
04:01.54syerenFunkeh, of WAU?
04:01.58ag`I just formed the project now
04:02.01syerenThe same thing I have been using for a few months :P?
04:02.03Funkeh`syeren: of warmup
04:02.05syerenAnd had no problems with :p
04:02.27syerenTracks how long between loadup events (Tekkub Stoutwrithe)
04:02.35syerenWhere does it put the data it tracks :P?
04:02.41syerenIf anywhere.
04:02.43vhaarrag`: Well, I was going to make a Clique replica, you said something about unit attributes and stuff?
04:02.55kergothsyeren, both on chatframe2 and on its own chat frame.  see /wu or /warmup
04:02.56Funkeh`it put it another way
04:03.07ag`vhaarr: I'd go real simple from the start
04:03.09Funkeh`do you read the changelog?
04:03.22vhaarrag`: I want it simple as well, did you ever use AceHeal?
04:03.29kergothbah, login to hellfire and the npcs dont show up
04:03.30ag`yeah for a while
04:03.30vhaarrag`: That's what I want.
04:03.39syerenNo Funkeh, I just leave the WAU to do it's thing.
04:03.42vhaarrag`: A simple FuBar plugin with a few options.
04:03.44syerenApart from on BarTender3.
04:03.46ag`exactly
04:03.51vhaarrag`: So then we agree?
04:03.54ag`yeah
04:03.54syerenBecause people who have been updating that lately are idiots ;p
04:03.56vhaarrcool
04:04.01syerenAnd getting something wrong every single update.
04:04.03ag`but I would do the menu like this:
04:04.05BarbanusHow long does it take for /files to update after a commit?
04:04.19Barbanus20 min cron?
04:04.20Funkeh`syeren: everything on svn is technically beta, you use it at your own risk, by coming here and complaining after you didn't even read the changelog is just ..
04:04.26ag`button1, button2, button3, button4, button5
04:04.31ag`and then in each button
04:04.36ag`shift, alt, ctrl
04:04.42syerenI wasn't complaining Funkeh, I asked if anyone knew of any problems.
04:04.46vhaarrag`: .. I know, that's just like AceHeal.
04:04.52Funkeh`syeren: read the changelog
04:04.58kergothinsulting a developer because you're too fucking stupid to use a release instead of svn is whats idiotic
04:05.08kergothdamn users these days
04:05.09syerenI do use a release...
04:05.11ag`vhaarr: yeah, and I think it would be real easy to make
04:05.15vhaarrag`: yep
04:05.20vhaarrag`: I just haven't been arsed yet.
04:05.26kergothwowace.com/files are not releases.
04:05.28ag`using the metatable stuff clad suggested
04:05.35ag`you know, the click cast table
04:05.36Barbanuskergoth, heh yea
04:05.36syerenKargoth, but WoWinterface is.
04:05.38syerenSo try again.
04:05.39syeren!!
04:05.40vhaarrag`: yes
04:05.54vhaarrag`: I was thinking about naming it DoctorWhack or similar, to be honest I don't like the current name.
04:05.56Funkeh`syeren: read the CHANGELOG
04:05.59kergothand? calling the developer idiotic for updating his addon in his free time?
04:06.02kergothgrow up jackass.
04:06.11kergothwhen you pay for it, then you've got room to talk
04:06.14kergothuntil then, go fuck yourself
04:06.17syerenI'd rather stick to my elitist standards.
04:06.27syerenOf updating something and not breaking the rest of it ;)
04:06.28Xuerian'night all :p
04:06.29kergothThen code it yourself, get off yoiru fat ass.
04:06.31[_Trimble_]Maexxna down.  my guild's first time :)
04:06.33Funkeh`nn
04:06.37TheKarnsyeren, one thing. STFU. when you can code it yourself then you can comment. till then stfu. if it doesnt work don't use it.
04:06.38Funkeh`grats
04:06.49Smeltnhmm so no update to mageFu
04:06.52Smeltnthat sucks
04:06.53BarbanusGrats [_Trimble_]
04:07.03syerenThat's the problem Karn, I do :(
04:07.13syerenSo I have permission to talk now?
04:07.15syeren;p
04:07.15TheKarnthen stop bitching about it
04:07.18kergothif you continue to insult the developers, you won't be allowed to continue to stay in this channel.
04:07.20thalie~love Xuerian
04:07.22purlIf you love Xuerian so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
04:07.22ag`Well I came up with the really cheesy idea of it being a "surfed" version of clique, and there's a surfer brand named quicksilver and I took it from there
04:07.22kergothperiod
04:07.27AntiarcSVN carries no promise of 100% working-ness. If you want stability, use an official release.
04:07.28Xuerian<3
04:07.31Nomad_Wandererwhats the difference between hotcandy and Chronometer?
04:07.32Funkeh`seriously syeren: don't get me wrong we do appreciate bug reports/prolem reports. but what you did is not get the right information before telling us
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04:07.39kergoththis channel is a developers lounge, not a user support forum
04:07.58KelbenI take it that is an automated greeting?
04:08.00syerenFunkeh, I have no error problem or anything in a changelog about "Increased load at the start by over 40 seconds."
04:08.02syeren;P
04:08.06Funkeh`if you wish to make a proper report, read the changelogs, use the latest revisions, get together proper info or a bug report
04:08.15syerenBut it probably my cache as you suggested !
04:08.23Kelbenor did I stumble into a conversation
04:08.27Funkeh`that can also contribute to the problem
04:08.36AntiarcConvo, Kelben
04:08.42Kelbenah
04:08.48*** mode/#wowace [+o kergoth] by ChanServ
04:08.53ag`anyway vhaarr I'll probably throw together some code on saturday
04:08.54Funkeh`lol kergoth
04:09.08Funkeh`i just re-read that, good motd
04:09.20vhaarrag`: hrm, okay, I'll probably be doing some work before that.
04:09.33Barbanusanyone else have an issue with ocb if you get counterspelled, earthshocked, etc, the bar still continues?
04:09.35ag`hehe
04:09.35syerenUnfortunatly I can't log on at the moment due to the European downtime Funkeh :P
04:09.37vhaarrag`: well either we agree to a new name or we'll be developing two projects
04:09.41vhaarrag`: so, suggestions?
04:09.43syerenBut I'll do a /wu next time :p
04:09.48ag`I don't care about the name
04:09.58KelbenI had some questions about several mods, more suggestions maybe? I'm not sure, maybe I'm totally gimped and am missing the feature already but figured it was worth coming here
04:10.00ag`I think the most important part is that we do something together
04:10.07ag`instead of reinventing
04:10.11vhaarrindeed
04:10.21Funkeh`well just FYI the increased load times is not a bug, like explained in the changelog
04:10.41Funkeh`wether you use it or not is still up to you
04:10.43kergothwe need a good lua/wow code snippets collection somewhere
04:10.43syerenVhaarr, if you make a clique mod, make sure there is an option for it to automatically update the latest rank spells if possible :P
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04:10.57syerenIt's getting quite annoying having to change everything while leveling my new priest :(
04:11.08TheKarnlearn2spell syeren
04:11.14AntiarcKelben: Fire 'em off :)
04:11.18ag`afaik you don't have to pass a rank to the attribute system
04:11.21Kelbenheh alright
04:11.30gxamclique will cast maxrank
04:11.32vhaarrindeed you do not
04:12.06Kelbenautobar, is it broken in combat? As when I use an item in combat it doesn't trigger the cooldown timer nor does the item actually disappear until i drop combat
04:12.10ag`anyway vhaarr, the easiest place to start would be just having an edit box / slash command where you type the name of the spell
04:12.11Boobies4uhttp://ace.pastey.net/3497 what error is this? anything i need to worry about?
04:12.18Kelbenie mana gem in combat, remains on autobar after use
04:12.20syerenGxam, if it's in my spell book to cast Heal Rank 3 and I just got Heal Rank 4, it will still cast Heal Rank 3 for cntrl + left mouse untill I update it :P
04:12.22kergothKelben, thats expected
04:12.25kergothafaik
04:12.26vhaarrag`: Like we've already established; AceHeal for WoW 2.0/Ace2.
04:12.29vhaarrag`: perfect.
04:12.41Kelbenso its a bug then?
04:12.42AntiarcThe autobar thing can't be avoided due to the combat locking in place with 2.0
04:12.44gxamsyeren: theer's a button labeled max in the clique ui you can push that'll take the rank off
04:12.52AntiarcNo, it's just a "can't do better" with the new restrictions
04:12.52Kelbenah I was unaware of that
04:13.07ag`vhaarr: I don't know if you want a feature like where you click on the spell in the book and then you take it
04:13.09syerenAh awesome :P
04:13.10kergothgxam, there you go, assuming users can read again.  tisk.
04:13.16vhaarrag`: no
04:13.29ag`I don't think that's needed really either
04:13.32vhaarrag`: I'm perfectly capable of typing the name of spells.
04:13.35vhaarr:P
04:13.38syerenI haven't really looked into the options, on my last priest I just had the max ranks and never really had the problems due to low ranks being key-binded :P
04:13.51Boobies4uag, is it you that make AG UF?
04:13.56ag`I am thinking that it is going to be more like a frontend to SetAttribute
04:13.59ag`boobies4u: yeah
04:14.13ag`So it could do some really powerful stuff
04:14.14Boobies4uag, http://ace.pastey.net/3498  is this also one of those cant do better
04:14.17Boobies4urestriction stuff
04:14.25Funkeh`lololololololol
04:14.32Funkeh`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=55975614&sid=1
04:14.35Kelbena small suggestion really for oRA2, one the tanks was asking if possible to show tank cooldowns (shield wall, last stand) on the cooldown monitor, I realize that isn't a feature but would it be difficult to add in? I've seen the new paladin LOH timer
04:14.56ag`boobies4u: I think I fixed that one on the latest SVN
04:15.01syerenag`, have you included ToToT in your unit frames yet :P? Or do you still have to use the set up from the forum thread?
04:15.07Kelbenand for that matter, would it be possible to set which cooldowns you want to monitor or is that outside the goal of oRA2
04:15.10ag`syeren: there's a totot frame yes
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04:15.59vhaarr"... during today's maintenance we’ve applied a hotfix ..."
04:16.06vhaarrHow can it be a hotfix if the servers were down?
04:16.13ag`honor gain -30% :(
04:16.13Smeltnlol
04:16.14CIA-1703antiarc * r20335 10Sanity2/ (Libs/ Sanity.lua Sanity2.toc SanityDisplay.lua): Sanity2: Added FuBar support. Yay!
04:16.18Funkeh`KelBen: its been requested in the past, but it won't be added. the cooldownmonitor is like the tooltip on ctra. ctra only uses rebirth and soulstone. DI was added, but thats about it as far as Ammo is concerned
04:16.27Smeltnis there a list for other fixes in todays "hotfix"?
04:16.29Boobies4uwho works on ace2 here?
04:16.33Funkeh`vhaarr: blizz make the rules
04:16.34Boobies4uall of u? :P
04:16.35kebinusanApparently assist via keybind is broken in oRA, [2006/12/12 23:16:20-362-x1]: <string>:"Assist MT1":2: attempt to call method 'BindingAssist' (a nil value)
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04:16.53Boobies4uag, whats SVN :P
04:16.59Nomad_Wandererhow do you squelch in irc?
04:17.05thaliethe files directory
04:17.10Boobies4u?
04:17.13Kelbenfinally, I guess this one boarders more on user support, but I have read the wowace forums on this topic and it was never resolved
04:17.25Kelbenbut closetgnome
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04:17.54Boobies4uafter i installed bugsack i never managed to regenerate the damn honorfu error about glory-2.0 lib, pisses me off, i want bug
04:17.56Kelbenvery nice and simple itemrack style mod, but the main thing I'm concerned with is swapping in a evocation staff on evocation
04:17.57Smeltnlol
04:18.17SmeltnKelben the biggest thing that makes me lol at closetgnome is the sounds
04:18.21ag`boobies4u: just check wowace.com/files instead
04:18.39Boobies4uag, i use WAU
04:18.41Kelbena macro to swap the staff in was suggested but it failed and the question was never answered :S
04:18.44BarbanusAnyone know if bartender has the same issues with pet bars that the blizz default ones do?
04:18.46kergothhellfire is messed up atm
04:18.47Boobies4uis WAU always up-to-date?
04:18.51ag`yeah
04:18.52vhaarrKelben: Making a mod for that, like ClosetGnome_Aura, would be very, very easy.
04:18.52thalieevery 20 minutes
04:18.52kergothempty worlds ftl
04:19.10syerenag`, do you have any plans to include Range Checking in your unit frames :P, or are you going to leave it to Sairen?
04:19.21vhaarrFunkeh`: you don't understand
04:19.24Kelbenheh, I'm totally clueless when it comes to making mods
04:19.35vhaarrFunkeh`: "hot" means it shouldn't have to be restarted.
04:19.47vhaarrFunkeh`: it's not a hotfix if the servers are down, it's just a fix then.
04:19.56Boobies4uWAU is the best invention since the cheese slicer
04:19.59Boobies4ugood for noobs like me
04:20.04ckknightback
04:20.08Funkeh`vhaarr: hehe :p
04:20.16Barbanusvhaarr, blizz are retards, the "hotfix" for patchwerk required a server reboot
04:20.18Boobies4uckknight, i never managed to regenerate that god damn bug, pisses me off
04:20.19Kelbenand unforunately the aura mod that does exist out there is for druids and warriors stance swapping and is rather, well, buggy
04:20.38Boobies4uckknight, iv gotten it everytime i have ended a bg, since patch
04:20.39vhaarrBarbanus: I'd call that a "fix" as well, but whatever.
04:20.59BarbanusYea, they called it a hotfix ... like I said ... retards :)
04:21.01Boobies4uckknight, ok i dident have latest honorfu, maybe its fixed now :P
04:21.02Smeltn<PROTECTED>
04:21.02SmeltnPlayers must run their launcher in order to receive this new fix.
04:21.18vhaarrKelben: Whine whine whine whine. FINE, let me MAKE one right now.
04:21.22Funkeh`is taintchecker supposed to log the taint to savedvars?
04:21.33Barbanusag`, thanks for the quickfix on that invisible frame ... it was driving me nuts, lol
04:22.21Boobies4uag, is there like other "themes", that can be downloaded for AG UF? like, more detailed and fancy :P
04:22.29Boobies4uor is it only possible to use the one that comes with it
04:22.38Boobies4ui want Photek look :P
04:22.39Fiskerhaha
04:22.43Kelbenvahaarr - sorry to come off sounding whiney but it would be amazing if you did that
04:22.45Fiskerthey didn't buff rogues
04:22.47Fiskerwhat a surprise
04:22.51syerenYou tried changing the skin texture Boobies4u?
04:22.52syeren:P
04:22.56Boobies4uyes
04:22.56syerenMakes it look a ton better :p
04:23.02Boobies4uiv tried all the stuff that comes with it
04:23.21syerenWhat exactly would you want to achieve to make it more "detailed and fancy?"
04:23.26TheKarnare there more skinner themes?
04:23.28Boobies4uim used to "Photek" skin that is for nurfedui, but now im all ace so i dont use nurfed anymore
04:23.43Boobies4usyeren, i like pretty stuff
04:23.45syerenI don't see what you need to know more than what is currently displayed O_o;
04:23.45Boobies4ulike skinner
04:24.05Boobies4ulike, all girls has a vagina, i just want the girls look more prettyer
04:24.20TheKarnincrease your budget then Boobies4u
04:24.40vid`any way to color ag_uf unitframes when someone is out of range?
04:24.42vid`like fade em
04:24.44SmeltnBobbies4u, you know there is a aced photek?
04:24.49syerenI don't like Skinner :P
04:24.55Boobies4uthere is?
04:24.55[_Trimble_]:(  I need #@!$% idols and scarabs
04:25.01syerenvid`, I just asked ag` about that, but he is busy :P
04:25.04Merentarguys I had a question. In bartender is there a way to disable the red Out of Range on bars ?
04:25.09vid`ahh
04:25.11vid`:P
04:25.12Boobies4usyeren, just the UF?
04:25.13[_Trimble_]I need a mod that will make me some idols and scarabs :( lol
04:25.15vid`lol
04:25.17Merentarbeen checking in the options without success :(
04:25.24Smeltnsorry guys dont kill me
04:25.25Smeltnhttp://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3459/photekui-v6-1/
04:25.30Smeltnposting a cursed link
04:25.32Smeltn: P
04:25.46syerenMerentar, do you have RedRange?
04:25.47Boobies4uchrist i dont want whole photek
04:26.00ag`vid`, syeren, it's not currently possible using the addon itself only but there is a plugin for it
04:26.01syerenBoobies4u, my ui: http://syeren.opposed.net/ui_131206.jpg
04:26.03Smeltnyou asked for photek
04:26.04MerentarNot that I know of
04:26.08MerentarJust Bartender3
04:26.20ag`I can't remember where it is though or if it still works after 2.0
04:26.32Smeltnand mine http://www.wreckoning.org/ftp/Smeltn/myui2.jpg
04:27.06Boobies4usyeren, i never got the model thing at the UF working
04:27.08vhaarrKelben: When you're evocating, do you get a buff that says "Evocation" ?
04:27.10syerenag`, any chance you could make a Plug In for it ;)?
04:27.12Boobies4ulike, never shows up
04:27.14syerenOr going to leave it to Sairen?
04:27.22Kelbenyes
04:27.24TheKarnis there some sort of CalendarFu?
04:27.25Kelbenevocation
04:27.29vhaarrKelben: good
04:27.37syerenReally nice and organized Smeltn, but mages only have a few spells to use :(
04:27.48ag`I think Sairen did a good one, but if he doesn't update his I might take a look at it, I dunno
04:27.58ag`anyway it is bedtime for me
04:28.02ag`buhbai
04:28.02Kelbenhttp://www.thottbot.com/?sp=12051
04:28.17Kelbenthe thottbot description of the spell
04:28.17Smeltnnite nite ag
04:28.21Boobies4uSmeltn, pretty UI
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04:28.26Kelbenapplies two auras
04:28.30Smeltnsyeren, I actually have 4 more bars
04:28.30Boobies4uSmeltn, is that bartender with skinner?
04:28.31KelbenApply Aura: Mod Power Regen % (Mana)
04:28.37Smeltnthat are autohidden until mouseover
04:28.38KelbenApply Aura: Mod Interrupted Mana Regen
04:28.40syerenYou need to turn off Hotkey display anyways :P
04:29.21TheKarnhttp://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/thekarn/WoWScrnShot_121206_014104.jpg
04:29.22SmeltnBobbies4u, as much as I wish it was bongos its Trinitybars with skinner and eepanels
04:29.23TheKarnmy pretty ui
04:29.39CIA-1703rabbit * r20336 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/Mage.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Add Mage for Evocation.
04:29.44syerenKarn, your Bag addon is weak :P
04:29.44ag`Smeltn: that 00:00 PW:S counter to the right of your character
04:29.50ag`is that for cooldowns?
04:29.50syerenUse EngBags.
04:29.53syerenBest bag addon ever :P
04:29.55TheKarnsyeren, no.
04:29.59CIA-1703rabbit * r20337 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.toc: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Aaaand TOC it.
04:30.00ag`sorry, syeren
04:30.02vhaarrKelben: try it now then
04:30.22syerenYes AG, I have multiple things displaying cooldown due to Psychic Scream and shield cooldown being stupidly vital to me.
04:30.22Kelbenalright
04:30.24ZeusJuiceAnyone using Closetgnome with Bartender 3?
04:30.29ZeusJuiceI think Bartender 3 is causing lag when changing weapons
04:30.36vhaarrKelben: I don't have a mage with Evocation, so I can't test it.
04:30.44syerenThe only downfall of that addon is that I can't actually move the damn mini button, whch sits in my map :(
04:30.47vhaarrKelben: So don't go apetit if it b0rks out.
04:31.15ag`syeren, that 00:00 PW:S counter to the right of your character, is that for cooldowns? And what addon is it?
04:31.17Boobies4uTheKarn, there are more buttons on your UI then in the cockpit on a space shuttle
04:31.26syerenI already answered!
04:31.28TheKarnBoobies4u, i play priest.
04:31.32syerenYes it is, it's called coolDown :P
04:31.34Smeltnsyeren, tried DetachedMiniButtons
04:31.36syerenAnd it's on the SVN.
04:31.42ag`ok
04:31.45syerenI have done Smeltn, DMM cannot touch it :(
04:31.51KelbenHave to wait a minute due me blowing the cooldown to double check the evocation buff
04:31.58syerenYou need IframeFactory to work with it ag`.
04:32.12ag`goodie
04:32.15ag`anyway gotta go
04:32.46Boobies4uanyone know if its possible to search in a chat window? in mirc
04:32.49syerenIt's quite annoying Smeltn as you can imagine, if you look at my screenshot you can see the button just in the right hand corner of my Map.
04:32.59syerencntrl + f.
04:33.01Smeltnyeah
04:33.14syerenAnd DMM has never ever been able to move it :(
04:33.15FiredancerI use bt3 and closetgnome, but I switch outfits from the fubar plugin. I don't have lag issues
04:33.22Smeltnwhat about moveanything?
04:33.26Smeltnnew version if it?
04:33.30syerenI don't really think it's worth alerting the author of it though.
04:33.34Firedancerthe my oRA2 MT frames didn't want to move at all tonight :(
04:33.42Firedancers/the/tho
04:33.49syerenNot tried it Smeltn, I think getting something like MoveAnything just so I can move a button is a bit overkill ;D
04:33.56SmeltnI had a problem with trinitybars
04:34.03Smeltnthe minimap icon I could move with dmm
04:34.14Smeltnbut whenver I got out combat or loading
04:34.17ZeusJuicefiredancer...try running around and move your gear from your char to your inventory...lemme know if you get like a one second lag
04:34.24Smeltnit would move to some random spot on my screen everytime
04:34.24TheKarnwhich minimap icon?
04:34.33CIA-1703ckknight * r20338 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - added method :GetZoneYardSize("zone")
04:34.37SachsFiredancer, holding down alt, clicking the 'MainTank' text and dragging it around?
04:34.39syerenThe new Map Icon I would aimagine Karn.
04:34.43SmeltnI finally had to move it with moveanything
04:34.45syerenI have disabled it using Squeenix.
04:34.45syeren;p
04:34.56AntiarcThere isn't a "next loop" construct in Lua, is there?
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04:35.03Antiarclike continue
04:35.04TheKarnset a macro to /script MiniMapWorldMapButton:Hide()
04:35.10Smeltnno
04:35.14TheKarnor it might be /script WorldMapMiniMapButton:Hide()
04:35.28SmeltnI was meaning my trinitybars minimap button
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04:35.36syerenYou don't use Bar Tender?
04:35.41FiredancerSachs: Yes I tried alt cause that's how I used to do it and I tried every other click/key combo I could think of, both on the titlebar and on the frames and they wouldn't move
04:35.42Smeltnno
04:35.46markvhey karn i have a question for ya
04:35.49Sachs[2006/12/12 22:04:15-271-x1]: AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:654: Interface\AddOns\FuBar_FriendsFu\FuBar_FriendsFu.lua:79: attempt to compare two nil values
04:35.55TheKarnthis could be interesting markv :P
04:36.04FiredancerZeus: a little runnign around, then again I'm in IF on a very overpopulated server
04:36.25syerenIs the latest version of Bar Tender 3 on the SVN fully working? With Button Paging and all :P?
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04:37.17Antiarcsyeren: Check the commit notes
04:37.21Smeltnhmm
04:37.25Boobies4uckknight, are you here
04:37.26AntiarcThose will usually tell you if a feature's been fixed recently
04:37.33ZeusJuicefiredancer...yeah I disabled Bartender and the lag went away while changing gear
04:37.44Smeltnnow you got me wanting to hide my keybindings syeren.. but I dont think I can with Trinity
04:37.45Smeltnlol
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04:37.50ZeusJuicereenabled....there it was again
04:38.03TheKarnmarkv, what is this question?
04:38.10markvyou didn't get my tell?
04:38.14TheKarnnope
04:38.22Firedancerzeus: i generally only change gear while standing still (rebuffing before boss pulls) so I never noticed :o
04:38.56markvtry sending me a msg, karn
04:39.22ZeusJuicesec...I just got the latest update of Bar3. Lag is still there but not as bad now with the caching
04:40.00vhaarrAnyone know a free repository of short sounds?
04:40.26markvdid yo uget my response?
04:40.37vhaarrmarkv: You have to register.
04:40.38syerenVhaarr, how many you planning on putting up :P?
04:40.44TheKarnmarkv, try registering with nickserv
04:40.44Boobies4uif o then     <-- whats wrong with that line, when o is a local assigned right over? cause that line is giving a  "attempt to index local "o" (a nil value)" error
04:40.46vhaarrsyeren: ?
04:40.48Boobies4uwhat does that basicly meen
04:41.14syerenI have my own server, I will enable the HTML Public Upload on my page if you would like ;p
04:41.25vhaarrno, no
04:41.31syerenLooking for something then :P?
04:41.33vhaarrI need sound samples.
04:41.35vhaarryes
04:41.36syerenAh.
04:41.46PProvostckknight, is it time to kill the post on forums called "Pre-2.0 WoWers - don't update from SVN or use WAU"??
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04:42.13vhaarrWhy kill it?
04:42.15vhaarr2.0 has hit.
04:42.29Boobies4uvhaarr, could you help me with the question?
04:42.31Boobies4uplease :P
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04:42.47vhaarrBoobies4u: What question?
04:42.50Boobies4uif o then     <-- whats wrong with that line, when o is a local assigned right over? cause that line is giving a  "attempt to index local "o" (a nil value)" error
04:42.53ckknightPProvost, yea.
04:42.57Boobies4uhttp://home.online.no/~a-anhole/files/glorylib.jpg <---
04:43.07kevin1024o isn't set when you try to access it, boobies
04:43.08ckknightBoobies4u, it means you have an out-of-date version of Glory-2.0
04:43.17Boobies4uoh
04:43.17Boobies4uk
04:43.24Boobies4uso updating honorfu solves it?
04:43.28MerentarBobbies: I get that error everytime myself
04:43.29ckknightI don't know.
04:43.33ckknightI gotta go
04:43.40Boobies4uwell, glory comes with honorfu so
04:43.43Boobies4uthought you whould know
04:43.44Boobies4u:P
04:43.47MerentarI took manually the latest GloryLib on top of HonorFu
04:43.50Merentarsame story
04:44.01Boobies4uye, i get it everytime i exit an bg
04:44.04Firedancerargh. still getting session verification failed errors on the forums. can't jump straight to new posts or mark all read >_<
04:44.21MerentarI'll try deleting whole folder dunno and give it a go later
04:44.35Merentarmaybe SavedVars is corrupted
04:44.55Boobies4uin the account char folder?
04:48.43CIA-1703laotseu * r20339 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc: AllPlayed: Try to generate the correct TOC entry for the Wiki
04:48.52Nickenyfikenhmm anyone tried http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ ?
04:49.57Barbanuswho was it that said bigwigs timers were off for maexxna?
04:50.11GngskKemayo, you around by chance?
04:50.26BarbanusThey were right on for LaVendetta, so I dont know if bigwigs is different
04:50.51Kelbenlast time I did maexx they were bang on
04:51.07GngskBarbanus, it was [_Trimble_]
04:51.20BarbanusGngsk, you are right, it was.
04:51.35vhaarrNeither the LAV or the BW mod has changed, so they should either both be right or both be wrong.
04:51.39Kelbenfunny start as she didn't wall wrap anyone until after the first raid wrap
04:51.52Kelbenanyhow vhaarr are you still there?
04:51.55vhaarryes
04:52.33KelbenMaybe I'm appoarching this wrong for CG, but I created a set called Evocation Set (since thats what you called it in the mage file)
04:52.35syerenHmm, Sairen's website has dissapered from the face of the Earth :(
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04:52.44syerenHope she makes a new range checker though.
04:52.48Kelbenand nothing happened when i hit evocation
04:52.51vhaarrKelben: that's wrong
04:52.56Boobies4ushe?
04:52.58Kelbenheh figured
04:52.59Boobies4uis here a she?
04:53.10vhaarrKelben: rightclick the CG icon and expand Switcher ->
04:53.20vhaarrKelben: then assign a set to Default and Evocation
04:53.23vhaarrand you're done.
04:53.31syerenLike hell I know, I refer to people by the gender of their character before I actually know them :P
04:53.42Boobies4uhaha
04:53.44Boobies4uroger
04:54.03TheKarni know it might seem shortsited to say but do we have any female mod devs?
04:54.13Boobies4uthought here was an actual girl in the irc channel
04:54.28FryGuy-tekcub is afaik
04:54.34Arrowmasterno
04:54.35TheKarntekkub?
04:54.45Tekkubmeh?
04:54.57FryGuy-and person that runs wowi is female
04:55.06Tekkubfuck you :P
04:55.10vhaarrsomeone give me a free wav to mp3 thing that doesn't give me 10000 options and just does it
04:55.11Boobies4uTekkub, wanna cam
04:55.12vhaarrplease
04:55.13FryGuy-huh? :/
04:55.13Boobies4ujk
04:55.20Arrowmasterhaha
04:55.26Kelbenoh I found the bug on switcher I was talking about, if you uncheck enable it creates double enteries for all switcher sets
04:55.26Arrowmasternow thats funny
04:55.28TheKarnvhaarr, try LAME
04:55.32TheKarnand run it from the commandline
04:55.33Funkeh`i heard Tekkub has sexy boobs
04:55.47Funkeh`aybe jsut rumours
04:55.54Funkeh`maybe just* :/
04:55.57thalielet's see what purl things
04:56.02Funkeh`lol
04:56.11thalie~tekkub
04:56.18purlfrom memory, tekkub is a furry pervert
04:56.20Funkeh`oh dear
04:56.26Funkeh`lol
04:56.27thaliegoodness gracious.
04:56.56Nomad_WandererYou had me going earlier on the 2.0.2 thing for a little bit funkeh
04:56.57syerenvhaar, I'm pretty sure you would receive much love from healers everywhere if you was to make a new ag_RangeChecker plug-in!
04:57.06syeren*vhaarr
04:57.06FryGuy-[2006-05-18 17:21:46] <Tekkub> Ama: TortoiseSVN, it's easy enough for my moron husband even
04:57.08TheKarn~tekkub
04:57.09purl[tekkub] a furry pervert
04:57.09FryGuy-lol :p
04:57.19vhaarrsyeren: blah
04:57.20DekLOL
04:57.28Funkeh`LOLOLOL
04:57.31Arrowmasteri cant stop laughing at this
04:57.37vhaarrKelben: alright let me take a look at that
04:57.48TheKarn~tekkub
04:57.50purl[tekkub] a person with great breasts. if female, they are known as "boobs". if male, "manbreasts". Sex unknown.
04:58.08Viper_0000anyone know of a volume plugin for fubar that will let me click it once and change volume? like in titan
04:58.09Funkeh`leave the poor guy/girl alone
04:58.12Boobies4u~boobies4u
04:58.21Viper_0000i dont like volumefu, it have to go through like 3 menus to change master volume
04:58.22Boobies4u:(
04:58.30Deklol
04:58.34Dek~[Ammo]
04:58.36purlrumour has it, [ammo] is the author of CandyBars, oRA2, BigWigs, WitchHunt, Necronomicon, and EgoCast
04:58.44TheKarn~boobies4u
04:58.45purlsomebody said boobies4u was in love with the cock.
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04:58.51Boobies4uwtf
04:58.51Boobies4urofl
04:58.52Funkeh`oh dear
04:58.53Dek:o
04:59.02Dek~Xuerian
04:59.03purlACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random.
04:59.08Deklol
04:59.09Funkeh`lolol
04:59.17Dek~flee
04:59.18purlACTION runs away screaming
04:59.18TheKarn~thekarn
04:59.19purlTHOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN!
04:59.23DekLOL
04:59.26Kaelten~kaelten
04:59.28purlyou are probably spilling be champien
04:59.34Kaeltenslap purl
04:59.35syerenVhaarr, you know you want to make the plug-in ;D
04:59.35Tekkubthis make my choice not to play on live till TBC even more justified
04:59.35Deklololol
04:59.36Tekkubhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2006/12/12/server-first-shaman-ring-drops-to-a-pally/
04:59.42Kaeltenkick purl
04:59.48CIA-1703rabbit * r20340 10BigWigs/Sounds/Info.mp3: BigWigs: Sounds: New Info sound, the old one was awful.
04:59.48Kaeltenpurl lies
04:59.50purlNo, YOU lie.
04:59.55Boobies4uyes
04:59.57Boobies4upurl is rude
05:00.04CIA-17ow
05:00.09KaeltenBoobies4u: na whoever programmed him is rude
05:00.11Deklol
05:00.20Boobies4uit must be TheKarn
05:00.33Barbanus<= not a bigwigs user ... what was that sound of? lol
05:00.45zoktarman what should u do when the servers are down
05:00.47Funkeh`oh god vhaarr
05:00.55Dek~vhaarr
05:00.56purlsilly rabbit, closetgnome is for kids.
05:01.00xlviiis there anyway to change the action bar with bartender3? i used to be able press shift and use my mousewheel to change it.. now it doesn't work after updating.
05:01.04Boobies4uzoktar, like me, listning to iron maiden and try to get under the geeks minds in here
05:01.05Funkeh`that sound, is, muuuuch better
05:01.15CIA-1703rabbit * r20341 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Fix menu.
05:01.16Boobies4ui dont quite get how they think, but, im trying
05:01.19vhaarrFunkeh`: wut?
05:01.20vhaarrKelben: fixed
05:01.27Funkeh`i hated the old one
05:01.31Kelbensigh, I'm feeling really dense today, I rightclick on closetgnome, go down to the switch plugin, it has two options Default and enabled (enabled is checked) under default i have 4 options (none, set one, set two, evocations set) I can click on each to change which one is selected but it doesn't seem to remember which one i selected for each set
05:01.32zoktarBoobies4u music doesnt cut it for 6 hours straight ;P
05:01.42vhaarrFunkeh`: Was it used in any modules?
05:01.53Funkeh`i don't think so
05:01.58vhaarrme neither
05:02.00vhaarrthank god
05:02.00Boobies4uzoktar, discovery channel and bed, better then opiats for sleep
05:02.01Funkeh`my sounds are screwed anyway
05:02.03Dek~orly
05:02.04purlYARLY
05:02.16xlvii<PROTECTED>
05:02.17zoktarBoobies4u i desperatly need weed!
05:02.29Boobies4uwell cant help you there :P im not into that stuff :P
05:02.41vhaarrKelben: please update and try it again, I have to leave soon
05:02.47Dekpurl, Boobies4u is the weed dealer of #wowace
05:02.49purl...but boobies4u is already something else...
05:02.54Boobies4upfff
05:02.58Boobies4u~boobies4u
05:03.00purlyou are, like, in love with the cock.
05:03.04Boobies4uwtf
05:03.34zoktarwhats that other wow channel for random talk ?
05:03.37Funkeh`ok guys and girls, good night, sleep well
05:03.39thaliepurl, forget boobies4u
05:03.39Kelbenheh if i double click on each set in the switcher tab it switches to that set but nothing changes when I hit my evocation button
05:03.57vhaarrKelben: double click?
05:04.01thalie~boobies4u
05:04.03purl[boobies4u] lame
05:04.04vhaarrswitcher tab?
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05:04.18Kelbenright click CG
05:04.28CIA-1703sole * r20342 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua:
05:04.28CIA-17Antagonist
05:04.28CIA-17- Now uses new spell casting events to parse CASTS for the player's target. These run alongside parserlib (parserlib parsing just ignores casts from the player's target now). All in all...new events = hawt secks.
05:04.28CIA-17- When a bar is stopped it will now have a 1 second fade and the color will be changed to red.
05:04.31vhaarrKelben: double click?
05:04.32vhaarrswitcher tab?
05:04.41Kelbenit brings up a menu
05:04.43Dekpurl, Boobies4u is the weed dealer of #wowace
05:04.44purl...but boobies4u is already something else...
05:05.00Kelbenwhich has things like always equip weapons, quips and then switcher
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05:05.19Soleok
05:05.21vhaarrKelben: and then the Switcher menu has Default, Enabled and Evocation.
05:05.21Kelbenswitcher has a little -> so i can go over which open the default and enabled options
05:05.28Boobies4udek, comon, im already blowing all my money on chinese gold, i could never afford to smoke that stuff
05:05.36vhaarrKelben: not Evocation?
05:05.38CIA-1703weab * r20343 10Automaton/modules/AutoLootBOP.lua: Automaton: Fixed AutoLootBOP, however confirming appears to require a hardware event so this is of limited usefulness -- it simply supresses the confirmation box.
05:05.42Kelbenno
05:05.47vhaarrerr
05:05.51vhaarrokay, that's wrong
05:05.52Kelbenunless i download the wrong file
05:05.53DekBoobies4u: that's why you sell it
05:06.02Boobies4u:(
05:06.04Kelbenhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClosetGnome_Switcher/
05:06.13vhaarrhttp://wowace.com/files/ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher-r20337.zip
05:06.17vhaarryes, that's correct
05:06.29vhaarrbut you don't *download* it from SVN like HTTP
05:06.30KelbenClosetGnome_Switcher.lua
05:06.30KelbenClosetGnome_Switcher.toc
05:06.35TheKarnomg Stargate SG1 S5E22
05:06.36TheKarnftw
05:06.41Kelbenand the mage file
05:06.57Dek~boobies4u
05:06.58purlboobies4u is, like, lame
05:06.59vhaarrKelben: you downloaded it from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClosetGnome_Switcher/ using your browser?
05:07.08xlvii<PROTECTED>
05:07.09vhaarrKelben: that's not how you do it
05:07.11Kelbenyes, i take that is wrong
05:07.15vhaarrKelben: http://wowace.com/files/ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher-r20337.zip
05:07.20vhaarrdownload that
05:07.28Kelbendone
05:07.29Boobies4ua guy on my realm got banned last night for shouting "heil hitler" in an alterac valley, no i dont fancy adolf, or anything, but i DO wonder what "paragraf" that ban went under. Blizzard said racism tho, wich sounds a bit weird. But then again, i dont realy care
05:07.35vhaarrKelben: unzip and restart
05:07.45vhaarrKelben: the Switcher menu should have a submenu called "Evocation"
05:07.47Dek~whaleslap Boobies4u
05:07.48purlACTION beats Boobies4u upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
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05:07.56vhaarrKelben: if it doesn't after unzip and restart, something is wrong.
05:08.05Kelbeni was under the impression that you could download directly from SVN but you had to save each file to the correct folder
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05:08.12vhaarrno, you can't
05:08.23ArrowmasterTheKarn: what about Revelations?
05:08.30weabi got suspended for two hours for calling an enchant with a black aura a negro enchant :(
05:08.34TheKarnwatching it now Arrowmaster
05:08.43Boobies4uhah weab
05:09.03Boobies4uweab, the heil hitler guy got suspended for 3 days
05:09.36weabit's to be expected really, it's the society we live in.
05:09.38Boobies4uand he says he is gonna "complain" on it, even tho, i doubt blizzard will undo it
05:09.48Boobies4uye weab, but the reason on the suspension was "racism"
05:10.17weabdoesn't matter what they call the reason
05:10.25Dekpurl, no Boobies4u is the weed dealer of #wowace
05:10.26purlokay, Dek
05:10.29Dekwerd
05:10.30weabit says in the eula they don't need a reason
05:10.36Kelbenalright there is an evocation tab
05:10.40Arrowmasterblizzard can do whatever they want
05:10.44xgravixi didn't even know there was a 2 hr suspension lol
05:10.48Boobies4uhaha
05:10.51Kelbenbut something isn't right (reloading wow again)
05:11.10Boobies4uwhy aint they banning people buying gold etc? iv never heard of anyone gotten banned for buying gold.
05:11.16Boobies4ueven tho it ruins the realms economy
05:11.24thalie~thalie
05:11.26purlACTION casts psychic scream.  the channel flees in terror.
05:11.28weabok, first of all you're misusing the term ban
05:11.39Boobies4ususpension then
05:11.39vhaarrKelben: the zip files are not regenerated instantly, so the version you downloaded now does not contain the menu fix I just checked in.
05:11.39weabthe guy was suspended for three days
05:11.42weabthat is not a big deal
05:11.54xgravixban = account baleeted
05:11.57weaband they DO ban the farmers and sellers
05:12.03Boobies4uwhat about the buyers?
05:12.09weabmuch less frequently the buyers
05:12.13BarbanusFucking wiping on monstrosities because some idiot got too close ftl
05:12.37Kelbenhmmm i grabbed 20341
05:12.45Kelbenr20341 | rabbit | 2006-12-13 04:14:18 -0500 (Wed, 13 Dec 2006) | 1 lineClosetGnome_Switcher: Fix menu
05:12.53vhaarrokay
05:12.53Kelbenis the comment
05:12.59vhaarrgood
05:13.01Boobies4uwhen i was in orgrimmar this morning, i asked in the general chat when the realms went down, and a GM whispered me 2 sec after and said "5am as usual."  are they randomly "peeking" on the chats?
05:13.02vhaarrbut that doesn't matter
05:13.04Boobies4ulike an agent?
05:13.30vhaarrKelben: that has no impact on the Mage module working or not.
05:13.34weab"peeking"?
05:13.42Kelbenalright but i cannot seem to assign a set for evocation as the tab after evocation is missing
05:13.44Boobies4ulike, undercover looking
05:13.46phreakyIf they are logged into the game i guess they see the general chat as any1 else .)
05:13.49phreaky:)
05:13.57xlviiis there anyway to change the action bar with bartender3? i used to be able press shift and use my mousewheel to change it.. now it doesn't work after updating.
05:14.01vhaarrKelben: what tab?
05:14.19Kelbeni'm calling each of the little windows that pop open when you go over a tab
05:14.28vhaarrthey are submenus
05:14.44Kelbenalright the submenu after the evocation set is missing
05:14.47BarbanusBoobies4u, they watch randomly
05:14.49Kelbenor isn't displaing properly
05:14.54vhaarrKelben: okay
05:15.07vhaarrKelben: does ClosetGnomes "Wear" submenu show correctly?
05:15.16Kelbenyes
05:15.20vhaarrhrm
05:15.26BarbanusBoobies4u, they see all of the city chats when they are logged into that realm, IIRC
05:15.52Kelbenthe submenus after the switcher sub menu are broken all you see is
05:16.02Kelben|___|
05:16.06xlviican someone answer my question? ;p
05:16.22Tainxlvii the answer is banana.
05:16.25Barbanusxlvii, I updated today, and it works again
05:16.30Barbanusit was broken yesterday
05:16.33Barbanusdid you update today?
05:16.59xlviinot yet, but thanks.
05:17.12KelbenI guess a better way to decribe it is you see the top and bottom border of the submenu stack on top of each other
05:17.27vhaarrKelben: I get it, I see the bug.
05:17.30vhaarrKelben: let me fix it
05:17.30Barbanusxlvii, before demanding an answer to a question, you may want to make sure you have the most recent version first :P
05:17.46TainI demand bananas.
05:17.47Barbanusseems logical to me that way
05:18.08CIA-1703caldar 07caldar * r20344 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/MicroMenuFu.lua: MicroMenuFu - fixed saving of map button toggle state.
05:18.29xlviibarbanus, that'd be a good idea.. thanks for your help anyway
05:18.29Boobies4usucks that their account sharing thing is so stict, me and a real life friend wants to trade chars, with no money involved, and we are not able to. We are both damn bored of our mains and wanna trade. Sucks its not then possible to legaly trade the chars to eachother and talk to blizzard and change the account owner info etc
05:18.38TheKarni've been given an account
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05:19.00xgravixit's not like they are going to know if you trade
05:19.02TheKarnand i'm thinking of making it my main but i dont want to put my other chars on the backburner just because they are on another account
05:19.11TheKarnhe means char transfer
05:19.18xgravixoh
05:19.19xgravixmy bad
05:19.50Boobies4uyes i know they wont notice, but like, i wish we could legaly trade account, and change account ownership.
05:20.06xgravixalas, some things are not meant to be =(
05:20.07CIA-1703rabbit * r20345 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Menus work now.
05:20.10vhaarrKelben: there
05:20.20Kelbenalright grabbing it
05:20.25Boobies4ubut guess they are too scared of real life money involving trades
05:20.41Kelbenonce it updates
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05:21.40vhaarrKelben: will take a while, grab http://ace.pastey.net/3500 and put it in ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua
05:21.55vhaarrKelben: there is a text field at the bottom you can Ctrl+A Ctrl+C from
05:23.07Kelbenalright
05:23.33TheKarnor click the download link? :P
05:23.55vhaarrshh
05:23.58vhaarr:P
05:24.07TheKarn<PROTECTED>
05:24.18TheKarnthe plus means "download it biatch"
05:24.58TheKarnafaik
05:25.25Kelbenuse to be into gfx modding for morrowind... but never tried scripting :S
05:25.56Kelbenyup works perfect vhaarr
05:26.02vhaarrexcellent
05:26.04KelbenThank you
05:26.08vhaarrKelben: now spread the word
05:26.19KelbenIf I could post on the wow ace forums i would :S
05:27.04anenigmai should try closetgnome
05:27.44SkorcherXag_unitframes has a problem with changing forms with a druid
05:29.11SkorcherXrage to mana... mana cmoes out not showing full, even though it is
05:29.18Boobies4uanyone ever changed the account email on their wow account? if so, is it a bitch to do? you need to snail mail ID and shit to blizzard?
05:30.03Soleok so just putting it up here, if you use Antagonist then update to the new version and gimme feedback
05:30.19KelbenAre you an author for antagonist?
05:30.31Solethe new code covers a lot of possibilities and I mightve overlooked something
05:30.39SoleIm THE author of Ant
05:31.05BarbanusWhat does it do? (I've never heard of it)
05:31.13Kelbenlol alright, I'll admit I've tried your mod many times but I keep going back to NECB due to some limitations :S
05:31.19Soleenemy cast bar addon
05:31.29KaeltenI'm THE author of KC_Items
05:31.32SoleKelben: what limitations?
05:31.33Kaelten:P
05:31.38Sole^_^ <3 KAel
05:31.44hasteSole: Ant gave me a bad rumour!
05:31.46xlviiI'm THE author of nothing.
05:32.03Solehaste: wha?
05:32.09KelbenWell the main thing I use necb for is cooldowns tracking I need to know when someone's cooldowns are up
05:32.25Kelbenunforunately (unless you've updated it since) yours doesn't cover that
05:32.32Soleheh
05:32.39Solecooldowns have been tracked since the first revision
05:32.46Solemaybe you disabled them? :P
05:32.56Kelbengrumble, I'll load it up again
05:32.58hasteSole: It's true, but the person who said it said it during WoW 2.00, based on a 1.x post :)
05:33.02SoleIm pretty sure cooldowns were tracked back when it was called Soap...thats 2 namechanges ago :P
05:33.02thalie~haste
05:33.08purl[haste] revered as a god in some countries.
05:33.14Kelbenbut i didn't think it showed things like pally shield cooldown time
05:33.21haste~iterate haste
05:33.22Kelbennot the cooldown until the shield is gone
05:33.24Soleuhm
05:33.26Solehang on
05:33.30Kelbenbut the cooldown until it is back up
05:33.44Soleoh it does
05:33.46Boobies4uThe following details will only be changed by us under exceptional circumstances:
05:33.46Boobies4uFirst name
05:33.46Boobies4uLast name
05:33.46xlviiokay, this is probably just a lost cause, but i'm wondering.. can i edit / get a fubar plugin that will show my performance stats as - <fps> <ping> <memory usage>, with no units shown.. also for my money: gold.silver.copper (with no coins, or units shown, just the amount i have)?
05:33.51Soleyou just have to up the cooldown threshold
05:33.54haste~literate haste
05:33.59Boobies4uso it looks like they CAN change the account name holder, in SOME cases
05:34.03Boobies4ui wonder what kinda case that has to be
05:34.12SoleKelben: /ant config -> Cooldown Limit -> Pump it to full
05:34.40haste~literal haste
05:34.42purl"haste" is "revered as a god in some countries."
05:34.49hasteaaw, you removed the old one !
05:35.07hasteSole: "The comments I've seen from otravi seem to indicate he hates new functionality making his addon bigger, and points people to Antagonist for the enemy cast."
05:35.21hasteposted on december the 7th :p
05:35.29AntiarcOther than table creation, what culprits should I look at in regards to bloating memory usage?
05:35.31hastebased on a post from July
05:35.36AntiarcGetglobal? Iterators?
05:35.39AntiarcSetText()?
05:35.39Solehaste: lol
05:35.49Kelben5 mins to finishing mara soloing :S
05:35.52Kelbenand I'll check it out
05:36.06KelbenI think that was the only thing I missing
05:36.09Solehaste: wanna add a reset to oCD when an arena is entered?
05:36.41Solehaste: I can do it myself but its your addon so I wanna run it by you first :)
05:37.08hastepurl: no, haste is <reply>revered as a god in some countries. || <reply>a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
05:37.10purlhaste: okay
05:37.28hasteSole: as long as you send me a diff and don't commit it's okey :)
05:37.49SoleKelben: Antagonist has a cooldown threshold built in, as some people wanted to show long cooldowns and others only wanted short CDs...so I just let people set a number for the max duration of cooldowns they wanna show
05:37.49hasteI have a couple of days after today were I can work on add ons however
05:38.19Solehaste: well its a pretty quick thing, takes about 10-20 min tops
05:39.06hasteSole: well, I don't PvP, but I've been meaning to fix the bug with talents that reset cooldowns
05:39.15hasteshould be a easy change as you say tho'
05:39.15Soleoh that too
05:39.30Soleso you need to write a StopAll method either way
05:39.35Solethis way itl have 2 uses :P
05:39.57AntiarcDoes getglobal() incur a heavy memory cost or something?
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05:40.04vhaarrno
05:40.07TainWoah crazy Dutch!  Killed analog television transmissions nationwide!
05:40.22AntiarcI'm trying to nail down what's causing massive memory-per-second increases when I am scrolling a FauxScrollFrame, and I can't seem to find anything likely.
05:41.21hasteSole: if I remember right the function actually fires with a cooldown on 0
05:41.22CIA-1703sole * r20346 10Antagonist/Antagonist-Options.lua: Antagonist: - "Cooldown Limit" will now step in increments of 5 instead of 1.
05:41.33SoleIve been getting higher than usual kb/s since 2.0 as well but oh well
05:41.52Kelbenhmm solo since i'm waiting on a cooldown - are you familiar with the chimarocks on the isle of dread?
05:42.41Gngsk~seen Kemayo
05:42.57purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 10h 51m 21s) #wowace (1d 10h 51m 21s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 8h 26m 32s, last said: 'Bwahaha!'.
05:42.57[_Trimble_]Chimarocks.. yummy
05:43.33Kelbenanyhow the blue ones have a rather nasty magic reflection shield
05:43.36CIA-1703rabbit * r20347 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ (ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc): ClosetGnome_OhNoes: Working with the latest ClosetGnome database upgrade.
05:43.37SoleKelben: yeah I know em, feralas, right?
05:43.42Kelbenyeah
05:43.57Kelbenthe shield does have a cooldown
05:44.05SoleAntagonist is mainly a pvp addon and so not a hell of a lot of creature spells are supported
05:44.09Kelbendoes ant cover stuff like that too?
05:44.14Kelbenah
05:45.54[_Trimble_]I always had an idea for an addon that would create a hidden chat channel, and if you get grey ganked while leveling, it would broadcast the name, level, loc, etc of the ganker to all PKK's who have the addon loaded :)
05:46.16CIA-1703rabbit * r20348 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Check that some slots were actually active before adding sets.
05:46.24hastevhaarr: I have a feeling that your sleep habbits are close to the once I had last year
05:46.31[_Trimble_]and once a PK gets marked for bounty, anyone else with the addon who sees, mouseover, tracks, or whatever the PK, it would re-transmit their location until they get ganked abck.
05:46.32vhaarrhaste: they're fucked up
05:46.35vhaarr:(
05:46.38SoleTrimble: what I do when that happens more than once by the same guy is get on my rogue and proceed to kick his ass over and over and over
05:46.43hastevhaarr: like: 4-6 hours of sleep per day?
05:46.47vhaarryeah
05:46.50hasteand once in a while a 20min power nap
05:47.02hastevery common during school
05:47.03syerenhttp://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/patch/shaman/totemic_call.jpg
05:47.07syerenNow that's pretty damn nice.
05:47.08syeren;p
05:47.10[_Trimble_]Sole: I imagine there are lots of PKK's who would enjoy avenging people for the sport of it
05:47.20Solehehe
05:48.01Solewell one time I camped a 60 druid and rogue because they killed my little shaman twice
05:48.18SoleI couldnt stop laughing at their crappyness
05:49.06[_Trimble_]I'd like to see a system whereby if a ganker grey-ganks someone, they should get the wrath of bounty hunters on them.  It's not sporting to gank a grey, but it can be fun to hunt the bastard for breaking a code of honor :)
05:49.25Solelol code of honor :P
05:49.49SoleI stopped caring about being nice on a pvp server after playing on FFA pvp servers in other games
05:49.51nymbiackknight: do i need to do anything special to get the side tablets to show up? OnCartographer*TabletRequest() is calling, but adding lines and categories doesnt make the tablet appear.
05:49.54[_Trimble_]do you not think it dishonorable to gank a lowbie?  blizzard won't do anything about it, but the players can
05:50.07SoleI do it all the time if I see em
05:50.19[_Trimble_]I don't gank greys. :(
05:50.27Solewell my server is a bit harsh
05:50.31[_Trimble_]well, unless they're grabbing my dreamfoil.. LOL
05:50.36Solehaha
05:50.37[_Trimble_]then it's open season
05:50.41[_Trimble_]muuwahaha
05:50.54Soleblackrock isnt a nice server
05:50.54hasteI have a 'cute' image of that!
05:50.59hastelet me see if I can find it :)
05:50.59rw3If it's red, it's dead.
05:51.12CIA-1703rabbit * r20349 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: Small frFR update from Lokhy and koola.
05:51.31Tem[_Trimble_], you talking an addon that puts out the APB on people who gank greys?
05:51.34Temthat would be awesome
05:51.45[_Trimble_]absolutely
05:51.45Soleeven your own faction will mock and laugh at you if you start crying about being ganked
05:52.00rw3is there an addon that can make tab targeting ignore pets?
05:52.04Sole"l2p nub LOL" is the response youd get from most people :P
05:52.06Temrw3, no
05:52.12[_Trimble_]the problem, tem, is the addon would have to be used by both those who are leveling (the gankees) and the bounty hunters (PKK's)
05:52.17Temrw3, it's nopt possible
05:52.21Solerw3: we could do it pre 2.0 but not anymore
05:52.24rw3Used to be?
05:52.26phreakyWould be nice seeing in the tooltip how many times that horde has grey ganked ^^
05:52.27rw3Yar, figured.
05:52.35syerenSomeone should just make a new version of ag_RangeCheck :(
05:52.50Tem[_Trimble_], you don't apply a penalty to someone's karma when killing a ganker
05:52.56[_Trimble_]the range check in sRaidFrames seems to work nicely :)
05:52.59Temthat's up to the addon to manage
05:53.04TheKarnsyeren, do it yourself ;)
05:53.13TheKarnits more entertaining
05:53.18TheKarnand feels good when its done
05:53.22Tem[_Trimble_], the new IsSpellInRange is hotness
05:53.24NivFreakif ganking bugs you, play on a PvE server ;)
05:53.35TemNivFreak, I enjoy my pvp toons
05:53.44rw3Yeah crying about ganking is so 2005 :(
05:53.55[_Trimble_]Tem, I know there is no 'in game' system for dealing with grey-gankers, but if a grey ganker suddenly finds themselves hunted by every pkk in a zone, they might stop doing it
05:53.59TemI'd just like it if there were a higher system of 'justice' for those who are dicks for the point of it
05:54.13Tem[_Trimble_], EXACTLY
05:54.13NivFreakit's a cycle
05:54.16NivFreaklowbies get ganked
05:54.17NivFreakthey level
05:54.18[_Trimble_]I liked the system in UO  hehehe
05:54.19NivFreakthen they do it
05:54.27NivFreakif I catch someone ganking lowbies
05:54.28EejI don't think there should be a system punishing people from killing grey people at all
05:54.30NivFreakI kill them
05:54.32phreakyI don't :) I never gank :)
05:54.32NivFreakand corpse camp
05:54.42NivFreakthat really makes them bad
05:54.44NivFreakmad even
05:54.53NivFreakthen 4 or 5 of their buddies show up
05:54.55Tem[_Trimble_], the problem is that you don't know who was the agressor
05:54.58NivFreakthen I call some more out
05:55.00NivFreakand fun comes ;)
05:55.00Eejdoesn't matter
05:55.10Eejjust kill anything that moves if they make any aggressive movement
05:55.12[_Trimble_]Tem, the addon could be writen to do a little of that ;)
05:55.20syerenWhen I get ganked I just log on my warrior and let my Gankee say hello to my Severance ^_^
05:55.23syerenTends to do the trick!
05:55.27Tem[_Trimble_], take, for example, I took a trip to the barrens on my level 60 mage
05:55.33Eejwhat if they make you say
05:55.37Eejhello to Might of Menethil
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05:55.49Temthere was a group of 7 20ish hordies
05:55.58syerenI'll just have some guild mage / warlock / shadow priest come along and own them.
05:56.00Eejsorren trying to steal my thunder
05:56.11NivFreakdot dot dot...
05:56.14syerenEej from EJ by the way :P?
05:56.14SP|Sorrenyour thunder's been stolen.
05:56.19Tem"nurr, the 7 of us can take on that level ?? who's wearing T2 armor"
05:56.31[_Trimble_]Tem - ok, so the level 20 dudes have the addon loaded.  If you strike first, the addon can figure that out.  If their group attack first, same.
05:56.34TemI have no plans to kill them, but they attack me
05:56.35Eejin any case i've had that happen before, some tier 2 hunter ganks my lowbie alt, I show up in my Cryptstalker/Eye of Nerub and teach him a lesson melee styles
05:56.53Temso I fire off like, 2 arcane explosions and they lie in a pile at my feel
05:56.54Eejyeah I hang out at EJ
05:56.55Temfeet*
05:56.59syerenSo I guess you are Eej from 4GJ And EJ forums :P
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05:57.12Tem[_Trimble_], I spose
05:57.15SP|Sorrenhe's the only eej, imo.
05:57.18hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/casual/giefherb.png so much work for a single herb
05:57.19Eeji screwed up and now I'm stuck with Dragonstalker shoulders :|
05:57.21Tembut it still seems hard to determine
05:57.22syerenTem, don't forget to /roar after that :D
05:57.27Temsyeren, lol
05:57.35SP|Sorrensucker.
05:57.39Eejyesterday T3 shoulders dropped and I could have gotten them but i was too busy fiddlingwith SWs Stats i didn't see the call for tells and it went to a shaman app :|
05:57.46TemI wish there was a "tisk tisk" emote
05:57.59Eejand Patch/Grobb today dropped cloth shoulders 2x, that makes me qq
05:58.05SP|Sorrenby the time that drops again xpack will be out.
05:58.06[_Trimble_]Tem - keep in mind that even without such an addon, those level 20 suckers could still spam barrens general (buuwahaha!!) that they got gankes, and lie about it and bring down the wrath of any 60 hordies who are in the area and bored
05:58.07Eejgood thing BC is coming soon
05:58.21Eejthat and i can just get pvp shoulders
05:58.23Kelbenalright solo
05:58.26SP|Sorreneej, want to try my icu psuedo replacement?
05:58.26Tem[_Trimble_], mm, good point
05:58.29Kelbenerr sole
05:58.29Eejand make up for the minor loss of stamina and AP with just skill
05:58.39Eejno I've never used an ICU mod
05:58.45TemI still find it funny that they think they can take on a level 60
05:58.47Kelbenstill around?
05:58.48SP|Sorrenbut this one is cool
05:58.53Temit's not like my level isn't clear
05:58.55Eeji'll use it
05:58.57TemI'm riding an epic mount
05:59.20TemI'm CLEARLY in epic gear
05:59.20Eejonly if it cures cancer and gives me a blowjob
05:59.20[_Trimble_]My addon idea is more for the PKK community who wants to avenge lowbies.  maybe even make it keep a scoreboard (transmitted ont he addon channel) of who's killing who, how many times, etc.
05:59.20Temsounds nice
05:59.35[_Trimble_]yeah.. i'm just too lazy to make it.   I never learned to code for the UI. :(
05:59.39SP|Sorrenmy addons only give the people you dislike cancer :(
05:59.45hasteYou can't really transmit that information on the add on channel
06:00.09syerenTem, I know you use Savoury Deviate Delight just to fool them!
06:00.12[_Trimble_]not the "addon channel", but a hidden chat channel that all users could join (like the cta channel)
06:00.21OvrLrd-Qhaste: where do you find pinpoint from the screenie and does it work with 2.0 :D
06:00.23Eejthere really needs to be a Huntercraft mod
06:00.27Temsyeren, you caught me
06:00.28syerenAnd don't equip your weapon untill '+Combat"
06:00.34[_Trimble_]i am aware that the addon channel only works within groups/raids
06:00.34Kelbenheh update my theorycraft :(
06:00.39hasteOvrLrd-Q: pinpoint has been replaced by Cartographer_Herbalism
06:00.45Eejlike some sort of uber version of Theorycraft that takes into account IAotH, GFTT, EW, MT, mana regen, the whole works
06:00.47CIA-1703rabbit * r20350 10aUF_RangeCheck/ (aUF_RangeCheck.toc core.lua libs/):
06:00.47CIA-17aUF_RangeCheck:
06:00.47CIA-17- Half-assed, drycoded, untested attempt at 2.0 compability, only works on priests if it works at all.
06:00.48OvrLrd-Qaaah cartographer
06:00.53syerenOH MY GDse[fa
06:00.54syerenfwf\afn[anf
06:00.55syeren!
06:01.11syerenBeen asking all night, hope it works!
06:01.25Eejthe math would be easy but ui would be D:
06:01.36SP|Sorrenwrite it eej
06:01.39GngskSP|Sorren, I saw that last night in the lounge, got a nice laugh out of it. Even thought about posting it on bash
06:01.40syerenAlthough judging from the desription, it doesn't sound too hopeful :(
06:02.05syeren*description
06:02.08Eeji don't know a single thing about writing ui mods for wow
06:02.09SP|SorrenGngsk: glad you approve :)
06:02.15SP|Sorrenwrite me the maths, imo
06:02.19SP|Sorrenand ill do the gui
06:02.22[_Trimble_]I want to add a feature to sRaidFrames - if a raid member gets Web Wrap (maexxna), give their frame a bright flashing alert, similar to the green/pink of poison/curse...
06:02.44Eejwhy would you need that
06:02.46SP|Sorrenim too lazy to do complex theorycrafting.
06:02.48syerenTrimble, that works in Grid.
06:02.48Eejit's not like Maexxna Web Wraps anymore anyways
06:02.50GngskSP|Sorren, http://pastey.net/3428
06:02.52Eej(lololo)
06:02.57syerenBut not tried it in sRaidFrames :P
06:03.01[_Trimble_]Eej, she still web wraps
06:03.05*** part/#wowace Kelben (i=Kelben@residence-232-115.mschaffer.ualberta.ca)
06:03.14*** join/#wowace Kelben (i=Kelben@residence-232-115.mschaffer.ualberta.ca)
06:03.24Eejyeah like
06:03.25Eejtwice a fight
06:03.25[_Trimble_]it's the Web Spray that is now trivial with stacking HoTs
06:03.45[_Trimble_]wtf?  Maexxna web wraps 3 people every 40 seconds
06:03.46syerenIs Maex still awesome when she web wraps people in how she makes them OOLOS for healers 90% of the time?
06:03.50syerenOr did she get fixed :P
06:03.53EejI dunno
06:03.58Eejlast time I did Maexxna (last week) we had like
06:04.02Eejone person get web wrapped
06:04.06Eejthen no one for like 2 minutes
06:04.08[_Trimble_]we did Maexxna tonight.
06:04.11Kelbenyeah
06:04.12Eejthen when we hit 30% she started wrapping again
06:04.16syerenMy guild kind of fell apart since 2.0.1 was released :(
06:04.21Kelbensimiliar case here, nothing at start
06:04.22Eejand we were like O WELL and blew her up stupidly easy
06:05.05KelbenSole, are you still watching chat?
06:05.16[_Trimble_]Well, I'm sure there are other encounters where people need special attention in certain ways similar to web wrap... just need a system to add more colored background alerts with definable debuffs
06:05.28SoleKelben: sorry was afk
06:05.50Kelbenalright poking at ant again
06:05.52SoleKelben: I still havent registered on freenode so I cant use private c hat :P
06:05.59phreakyAny1 know an addon that automaticly buys reagents at a reagent vendor?
06:06.00Kelbenlol
06:06.14kergothphreaky, freerefills
06:06.19kergothworks well
06:06.20Kelbenanyhow, yeah i don't know how I missed the cooldown timers :S
06:06.28phreakykergoth: oh didn't work last time i tried that one
06:06.36SP|Sorrenis there an addon that automatically buys arrows?
06:06.37Kelbenbut some of the other things that stopped me from using was a lack of sheep timer
06:06.50Eejsorry Sorren there isn't an addon that makes you good at the game :<
06:06.53phreakykergoth: i couldn't add stuff to the buylist i just got errors, but maybe that has been fixed nwo =)
06:06.58SoleKelben: as in lack of the duration of your sheeps?
06:07.02Kelbenyes
06:07.05[_Trimble_]what I REALLY want, as a druid, is a way for my raid frames to indicate if I have rejuvinated someone myself (so i can tell if my rejuv has expired even if they stil have rejuv)
06:07.06Kelbenboth for pvp and pve
06:07.07SoleKelben: Chronometer
06:07.10SP|Sorrenit was so embarssing, two nights ago i joined an arena game
06:07.18SP|Sorrenand had 3 arrows left
06:07.19Eejdid you afk during it
06:07.23syerenTrimble, why not just use Chronometer?
06:07.29Kelbenalright, does chrono cover scorch debuffing?
06:07.30ckknighthey all, back
06:07.33[_Trimble_]because I haven't heard of it?  hehehe
06:07.33SP|Sorreni only managed 2000 damage with those 3 arrows :(
06:07.39syerenGo get it quick!
06:07.42[_Trimble_]where?
06:07.44SoleKelben: Chronometer + Antagonist  fully replace NECB ...except for boss timers which are covered by BigWigs
06:07.53SP|Sorrenomg try my mod :P
06:07.55syerenhttp://www.wowace.com/files/Chronometer/Chronometer-r19209.zip
06:07.56SoleKelben: not sure, pretty sure it should
06:07.58Eejomg no
06:08.03SP|Sorrenit times sheeps now!
06:08.12Eejsince when can i cast sheeps
06:08.15SP|Sorrennot u
06:08.17KelbenNever used chrono before, alright taking a look at it
06:08.18syerenSole, the latest version of NECB Is pretty nice :P
06:08.19nymbiackknight: i'm having some odd trouble with the side tablets
06:08.27Eejpretty sure Natur > you, Sorren
06:08.31SP|Sorrenfeh
06:08.32syerenIs Antagonist + Chronometer a better set up yet?
06:08.38[_Trimble_]is there a page that describes/screenshots chronometer?
06:08.39Eejso go make my huntercraft mod
06:08.44syerenTrimble.
06:08.47SP|Sorrensend me maths, imo
06:08.54syerenhttp://syeren.opposed.net/ui_131206.jpg
06:08.57syerenThe thing on the left.
06:08.59SoLoRchronometer is fucked up since 2.0
06:09.06syerenShows my shield and my weakend soul effect ;p
06:09.11Gngsk[_Trimble_], http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5530-Chronometer.html
06:09.16phreakyi guess http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Chronometer got info about it
06:09.22SP|Sorrenwow, are you a female dwarf syeren?
06:09.25SoLoRand SP|Sorren your mod is nice ye ;)
06:09.29ckknightnymbia, hrm, pastey?
06:09.36nymbiackknight: it's calling OnCartographerLeftTabletRequest() and OnCartographerRightTabletRequest(), but setting categories and lines in there doesnt make it show the tablet.
06:09.36SoleSoLoR: how is it fucked up?
06:09.47syerenSorren, my fucking UD Raiding priest got banned forever in the last ban-wave :P
06:09.53SoLoRSole options doesnt working :<
06:09.56syerenI botted on my Warlock to get raiding money :(
06:10.01SoLoRlike "self" and "kill"
06:10.06SP|Sorren:<
06:10.09[_Trimble_]ok, let me make it clear - I don't want another enemycast bar type deal.  I want something that attaches to the unit's raid frame to show me.  it's a pain in the @#$% ass to try to correlate NECB bars with raid frames when you're using Clique.
06:10.19syerenSo I got a warrior and decided that warriors are the most lame class in the game apart from huntards, so made a new priest :P
06:10.22SoleSoLoR: heh I actually havent used Chron options since the patch, Ive always had it set up perfectly for me so I dont need to fiddle with it
06:10.37Eejhunters are awesome
06:10.38SoLoRSole well its only some classes
06:10.44Eejdiaf imo
06:10.49SoLoRwarrior is bugged, paladin is ok...
06:10.50syerenHunters require about as much skill as breathing.
06:10.52SoLoRits wierd
06:10.53SP|Sorrenhunters are almost too awesome.
06:10.57Gngsk[_Trimble_], so you want a raid frame that only shows your HoT effects?
06:10.58nymbiackknight: at the moment i'm just trying to get it to build a simple little tablet: http://ace.pastey.net/3503
06:11.07SoLoRand cant be arsed to fix so i downloaded sorrentimers :)
06:11.21Eejif Hunters require as much as skill as breathing
06:11.23nymbiackknight: no errors at all
06:11.24Eejwhy are there so many terrible hunters
06:11.25Kelbenbah chrono's not what i'm looking for
06:11.34*** join/#wowace noha^ (n=noha@p50810393.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
06:11.38SoleKelben: what are you looking for then?
06:11.39rw3SoLoR: You did some work on Buffalo, right?
06:11.46syerenBecause hunter require no skill to play Eej.
06:11.48Kelbenit doesn't differentate between pve and pvp
06:11.50[_Trimble_]Gngsk - not exactly.. I want to see all the hots on my target.. but, an example of an idea indicator would be to make the white frame around the unit turn purple for 12 seconds if I myself cast rejuv on that unit.  
06:11.55SoLoRrw3 ye make it work with 2.0
06:12.08*** join/#wowace mirco (n=moonblad@0x3e42d166.adsl.cybercity.dk)
06:12.09syerenSo if you have a no skill vs no skill show down, someone is bound show no skill more than the other!
06:12.14SoleKelben: so it doesnt take into account diminishing returns?
06:12.21[_Trimble_]if my rejuv gets dispelled, I'll worrry about that on my own.  simply turn it purple for 12 seconds if I cast rejuv would be enough.
06:12.28kergoth[_Trimble_], there's a grid module for that
06:12.29Eejon a side note, i still die to SL warlocks, kind of annoying
06:12.30kergothheh
06:12.31rw3SoLoR: Yeah, thanks for that. There's a glitch after locking the frames making the debuff backdrops remain until reloadui
06:12.31syerenAs for my experience on a warrior, I love hvaing my equipment dictate how well I do in PVP and PVE :P
06:12.39syeren*having.
06:12.49[_Trimble_]grid is ok, but it's still a separate frame.  
06:12.52Eejhowever, i can "stun"-lock a fire mage now, it's quite hilarious
06:12.56SP|Sorrenlies eej, i dont lose to SL warlocks, you musn't either.
06:12.57rw3SoLoR: The buff grid backdrops I mean, not debuff ones.
06:13.05Eeji can kill them
06:13.06Kelbenwell for example on a sheep in pvp it still reports the full 45 seconds vs the 15 second sheep
06:13.07ckknightnymbia, looks right. Are you registering it properly?
06:13.08Eejthey soulstone
06:13.10Eeji kill them again
06:13.11Eejbut i die to dots
06:13.15Kelbenand it doesn't account for deminishing returns either
06:13.26xlviihas anyone gotten wowmodelview working with 2.0?
06:13.27[_Trimble_]I tried using grid, and it let me down - not showing me who was poisoned.  I tried to set up everythign to show poison and it ddidn't work.
06:13.28SP|Sorreni miss TBC food
06:13.33Eejthe felguard intercept screws me up
06:13.39SoLoRrw3 i know! because i interated dreamlayout and backdrop from layout stays on screen until you gain/lose 1st buff for some reason (works fine with debuffs weapon/bufffs) ;)
06:13.39SP|Sorrengaradar sharp doesn't save you from warlock dots
06:13.40[_Trimble_]and I can't type worth crap tonight..
06:13.48syerenckknight, the SVN Needs updating, a new version of ag_RangeCheck is out!
06:13.50SoleKelben: damn bhattu said he was gonna do it a long time ago, Ill poke him about it
06:14.02ckknightsyeren, how does this apply to me?
06:14.11syerenNo idea, you seem important enough!
06:14.12syeren:P
06:14.14[_Trimble_]who wrote sRaidFrames?  I should send my suggestions
06:14.15SP|Sorrenmy dones diminishing returns! </shameless plug>
06:14.16Solelol
06:14.19rw3SoLoR: Hmmh.
06:14.19SP|Sorrendoes
06:14.24nymbiackknight, :AcquireSideTablet() handles the tablet registration, right?
06:14.25SP|Sorren>.>
06:14.28vhaarrsyeren: It doesn't work, give me a minute.
06:14.32Kelbenheh since your online any other mods your working on?
06:14.36ckknightnymbia, it should.
06:14.41syerenvhaarr, you're fixing it :o?
06:14.44SoLoRrw3 but since nimbal is suppose to do version 2 & not like we unlock buffs every 2 min and its minor cosmetic issue does it really matter?
06:14.55Eejsee i told you no one cares sorren
06:15.01SP|Sorrensrsly
06:15.03nymbiackknight: and it'd be erroring on me for trying to add lines in a non-children function.
06:15.14rw3Not really, but some of the people I introduced Buffalo to were all up in arms about it.
06:15.16ckknighttry the right side?
06:15.20vhaarrsyeren: trying
06:15.23nymbiak
06:15.27SoLoR-.-
06:15.28Eejstick with hunters they speak your name as though you were some giant titan made of gold, shitting out pomegranets to feed the downtrodden
06:15.28syerenAwesome :D
06:15.30rw3So had to explain to everyone how to get rid off it :P
06:15.33SP|Sorreni get strange comments on the hunter forums though :/
06:15.43SP|Sorrenyeah what's up with that, it's creepy
06:15.46*** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuOHEP@outer.test.e-larek.ru)
06:15.54syeren"zomg its that sorren dude who makes all my addons."
06:15.56Solelol
06:15.59*** join/#wowace LOLOVERPOWERED (n=volotani@c-71-226-73-164.hsd1.ms.comcast.net)
06:16.01Eejand i'll be damned if I ate your crap sorren
06:16.12syerenMy Huntard friend who is playing GOW behind me just asked "Is that the Sorren dude who made my timers?"
06:16.16syerenYou're famous indeed!
06:16.31MavackSorrens timers = very handy :)
06:16.32Kirkburn"Ace2" is preventing me from dimissing my pet :/
06:16.34Soleaimed shot -> multi -> auto -> arcane -> silencing ->  I think he died after the auto
06:17.11SP|SorrenAimed+Multi is enough for most casters these days :/
06:17.15SP|Sorrenthey seem to have no health
06:17.18CIA-1703rabbit * r20351 10aUF_RangeCheck/core.lua: aUF_RangeCheck: Closer to working.
06:17.22Soleyaha
06:17.24vhaarrsyeren: I can't fix it now, leaving for work.
06:17.24Eejthat's kind of depressing
06:17.27Eejconsidering your terrible gear
06:17.30SP|Sorrenit really is
06:17.36Mavacki love silencing and watching them trying to run away
06:17.37LOLOVERPOWEREDMost mages I've seen lately have been running around with like 3200 hp.
06:17.39LOLOVERPOWEREDIt's sad :(
06:17.49Solewell my guildy is almost fully naxx geared..7/9  and hes just funny to play with in BGs
06:18.01Sole"see that mage there? see that mage? BOOM SILENCING SHOT BITCH AWW YEAH!"
06:18.06OvrLrd-Qlol
06:18.09syerenSorren, a lot of casters these days are so insane about +dmg they forget they need enough stamina to actually cast the spell in the first place ;D
06:18.13Solethats vent for me every day ^_^
06:18.22Eejsilencing - multi - scatter - run away for a bit - renataki - multi - arcane usually kills most mages without taking any damage at all
06:18.25syerenOkay vhaar :P
06:18.27CIA-1703rabbit * r20352 10aUF_RangeCheck/core.lua: aUF_RangeCheck: WTS: Debug code.
06:18.40SP|Sorreni need renataki :(
06:18.45syerenWhy isn't Rabbit in here :(?
06:18.46Solei need renataki :(
06:18.49SoleIm a freekin mutilate rogue
06:18.51vhaarrsyeren: It's me.
06:18.52Eejthis is why you're a terrible hunter sorren
06:18.55SoleI need it pretty bad
06:18.56syerenOh ;D
06:19.01Eejtoo bad they nerfed renataki
06:19.01SP|Sorrenill see if inty and co will help me 5 man it 70
06:19.03Kirkburnvhaarr, you're rabbit? I never knew!
06:19.08Soleeven though I kill people 100-0 anyway O_O
06:19.09SP|Sorrenfeh, so it doesn't reset arcane shot anymore
06:19.10Eejnow it's only multi/aimed/volley
06:19.10VolaraIs mutilate doing ridiculous damage for you?
06:19.14Solemutilate is too good lol
06:19.15VolaraI've seen 1500 crits on plate.
06:19.16vhaarrKirkburn: yeh :P
06:19.20Eejand renataki for Rogues got nerfed hella hard haha
06:19.21VolaraThat seems a bit... much.
06:19.27Soleyeah it did get nerfed
06:19.28KirkburnThanks for updating RangeCheck
06:19.28Kelbenoh well short someone being able to write an accurate scorch debuff timer I'm kinda out of questions
06:19.34SoleIve had 2.1 and 2.2k mut crits
06:19.37vhaarrKirkburn: it's not working, I think
06:19.38SoleI dont CB evis anymore
06:19.39SP|Sorrenmultishot is the one you want ;o
06:19.39vhaarror maybe it is
06:19.41SoleI CB mutilate
06:19.45Eejno
06:19.48Mavackmulti FTW 50% crit rate atm lol
06:19.50Eejaimed shot is clearly the one i want
06:19.51syerenvhaarr, I can't even log on to check sorry :(
06:19.56VolaraDoes CB make both hands auto-crit?
06:20.00Eejyes
06:20.01KirkburnWell that's no good, make it work! ^^
06:20.02anenigmaSole: does CB mutilate guarantee both .. what volara said
06:20.05Gngskhow'd they nerf ranataki for rogues?
06:20.05VolaraWow.
06:20.05Solecheapshot mutilate kidney shot cb mutilate
06:20.06vhaarrsyeren, Kirkburn: I can't test now, I'm leaving for work.
06:20.10SoleYes it does guarantee both crits
06:20.11vhaarrso .. have fun.
06:20.12EejRentaki is 40 energy now
06:20.14Solethats why I use it :)
06:20.19Eejat level 70 wut wut
06:20.20VolaraThat's insane.
06:20.20Gngskghey
06:20.30syerenvhaarr, I'll test it later and give you any errors I get when you come back later :P
06:20.30anenigmaGngsk: renataki's drops 2energy per level
06:20.31Gngskthey nerfed tea too eh?
06:20.36Eejnice part about it is that on your CB Mutilate you have +19% damage
06:20.38anenigmaso 61 = 58 energy, 65 = 50 energy etc
06:20.40Sole<PROTECTED>
06:20.40Eejwell, +19.9% damage
06:20.47Kelbenwhat is so difficult about writing an a scorch debuff timer anyhow?
06:20.48anenigmathey nerfed tea as well?
06:20.51Soleyeah thats why I CB mut after KS
06:20.52Mavackcan someone with snv access fix touristlib line 1417 move the closing bracket to above the end statement
06:20.53vid`omg
06:20.53VolaraOne more question, as my rogue is lawlcombat: Are Imp KS and Find Weakness multiplicative?
06:20.54Eejthey nerfed tea before renataki
06:20.56vid`did i see auf_rangecheck!?
06:20.56Kaeltenthey nerfed my coffee
06:20.58vid`!!
06:21.04Kaeltenit doesn't keep me awake enough :(
06:21.06SoleKelben: Chronometer has a scorch debuff timer in it
06:21.07EejVolara
06:21.10Eeja good rule of thumb
06:21.13syerenVid, vhaarr is busy working on it, or was :P
06:21.14SP|Sorrenmy timer does scorch! <not thoroughly tested>
06:21.17syerenHe has to leave for work :P
06:21.22Eejall damage buffs are multiplicative unless they're the exact same type of buff
06:21.26KelbenSule: its still limited
06:21.34CIA-1703kemayo * r20353 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Throw in Gngsk's patch for a Chronometer icon.
06:21.35VolaraFigured as much.
06:21.39Eejso
06:21.41SoleKelben: its the best there is...no other way around it
06:21.44Kelbenit can only track the first 5 scorches and then it can no longer track the debuff
06:21.48vid`work? damn
06:21.55vid`i gotta sleep its 1:20am!
06:21.57vid`gnite
06:21.59syerenSole, does Antagonist have PVP CC and Normal CC in it :P?
06:22.01EejImp Kidney + Find Weakness should be 19.9%
06:22.04Kirkburn6:20 am for me
06:22.23Eejbut Rank 12 Hunter gloves + Barrage is 19% more Multi damage
06:22.24Solesyeren: Ant doesnt track your spells
06:22.37syerenOh yes, Enemy Caster bars :P
06:22.39syerenMy bad :P
06:22.48Solesyeren: enemy casts, cooldowns and buffs :)
06:22.50syerenWas thinking it had the dottimer effect you can enable in NECB :P
06:22.53xlvii\Interface\AddOns\devnull\libs\Tourist\Tourist-2.0.lua:1417: unexpected symbol near 'end'
06:22.59Eejno that's what DoTtimer is for
06:23.03SP|Sorrenso then eej, are ferocious inspiration and focused fire exactly the same?
06:23.09Mavackxlvii lol i just fixed that myself locally
06:23.09Eejno
06:23.10syerenI have Chronometer at the moment :P
06:23.18VolaraBah, ok, to the question I had: Anyone have time to answer a couple questions about chat message hooking?
06:23.18Eejbut 1.03 * 1.02 is pretty weaksauce
06:23.18Mavacki just can't update it on the svn
06:23.22SP|Sorrenbecause they are additive
06:23.23Eejabout the sam ething as 1.05 anyhow
06:23.29SoleI did that in HostelBar, I hated the way my code looked so I scrapped that crap when I wrote Ant
06:23.44Eej1.03 * 1.02 = 1.0506
06:23.55SP|Sorreno rry?
06:24.00syerenEej, do you use DoTimer/Chronometer + Antogonist or NECB :P?
06:24.00Eejyes sorren
06:24.06Eeji use none of those addons
06:24.12SP|Sorreneej hates timing mods.
06:24.14syerenWeak ass huntard!
06:24.26syerenHe doesn't need them, he just presses 2 buttons and wins :(
06:24.29SP|Sorrenhe's hardcore, and counts in his head
06:24.53AntiarcIs Button:SetAttribute() known to cause memory bloat?
06:25.09Eejman
06:25.14AntiarcBecause, uh, four calls boosted my UI memory usage by 3kb
06:25.15Eeji'm only at 2.1/6000
06:25.18Eejwith Silvermoon City
06:25.19Eejgotta do more AV
06:25.24Solelol I got a killing blow today in AB because of Antagonist
06:25.28Solesilly mage didnt break ice block early
06:25.35Soleso I mutilate him just as it runs out :)
06:25.48[_Trimble_]thanks guys, i'm off to bed ;)
06:25.59CIA-1703ckknight * r20354 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - fix missing comma
06:26.03Solethen remorseless kicks in and I raped the guy that came by lol
06:26.10SoleI still have to test remorseless and mutilate fully though
06:26.13Eejmutilate's gotta suck against dwarves though
06:26.34SoleEej: most dwarves are too shit to know what stoneform is
06:26.34neeneeIs there an Ace alternative to Scrolling Combat Text?
06:26.42Eejyes well
06:26.45Gngsk:o
06:26.49Gngskisn't SCT ace?
06:26.51SP|Sorrensct...is an ace mod now.
06:26.51SoleIm pretty sure remorseless only affects the mainhand mutilate :( so that makes me sad
06:26.57neeneeOh yea
06:27.00Solelol
06:27.04Eejthere's gonan be a geared out Ret Paladin with a Claymore of Unholy Might that'll Stoneform out of your poisons and tear you a new asshole, I guarantee it!
06:27.06Kirkburnnewb :P
06:27.13Solehaha
06:27.18neeneeEgh. Hm.. Let's see what I meant.. I think it's early, as I already have sct and sctd from wowace.com/files :P
06:27.37Eej15% Vengeance + 6 second Crusader Strike was a brilliant idea
06:27.57OvrLrd-Qscrew that, i just wanna throw shields at people
06:27.58Eej35 holy talent boosting weapon damage was also a great idea
06:28.09Eej(it's bugged)
06:28.13SoleEej: I usually roll with my guild in pvp...our healers actually heal us in pvp lol ^_^
06:28.17Soleanyway later
06:29.50neeneeCan SCT do "Merge AoE data into one event with cumulative damage/healing done with number of normal and crits specified"?
06:30.16KaeltenI went to officedepot and they had a dvi-d cable for my monitor I got for $70.00
06:30.37KaeltenI went to ebay and I got it for .99 cents
06:30.44Kaeltenor rather 99 cents
06:30.51Gngskhrm, how do I get rid of these rogue aguf group anchors that are hidden yet keep you from mouse looking?
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06:32.08VolaraCan someone take just a second to explain a bit of code to me? I've having a bit of trouble wrapping my brain around something. (I'm new).
06:32.37SP|Sorrenill give it a shot
06:34.07ckknighthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=52716496&sid=1 <--- this is a really nice, positive thread about Ace2, with seemingly no trolls
06:34.24VolaraAn Ace thread that didn't get trolled? World first?
06:34.36Gngsktime to troll!
06:34.48Volaraserious, brb, need to find a low-level alt to hide behind.
06:35.05KirkburnI just stopped some raven-creatures from summoning a mob that looked like C'thun :/
06:35.37Tekkubwhat minipet is sond in BE land?
06:35.44Tekkuband where at exactly?
06:35.48Tekkub*sold
06:35.50KirkburnDragonhawk Hatchling
06:36.06KirkburnFarstrider retreat, I think
06:36.09KirkburnTop of the building
06:36.17KirkburnI *think*
06:36.24KirkburnCould be Fairbreeze
06:36.31Tekkubi'll thott it
06:37.11Kaeltenlol
06:37.11KaeltenYou NEED ACE2 in ur mod folder -
06:37.11Kaeltenu see Ace was developed by Linux people...
06:37.11KaeltenIf u have ever used linux in any way - there are 2 types of programers..
06:37.34Tekkub10 types?
06:37.51Mavackum cknight i think you fixed Touristlib wrong :P
06:38.31Mavackyards variable should be inside brackets
06:38.32nymbiackknight: its definitely got control of the tablet when it should, and calling the child function when it should.. it just doesnt want to appear.
06:38.43ckknight:-(
06:38.45syerenWhy would anyone want to troll on Ace2 anyways O_o;?
06:39.02KirkburnYards .... yards! It's WoW's fault for using such a stupid measurement!
06:39.12ckknightnymbia, this works: http://ace.pastey.net/3505
06:39.23ckknightMavack, no?
06:39.42Mavackwell look at every other function and it is
06:39.43nymbiackknight: ok, thanks :)
06:40.06ckknightMavack, wait, what line?
06:40.12Mavack1417
06:40.23ckknightoh, wow
06:40.24ckknightyea
06:40.26ckknightyou're right
06:40.51Mavacki know fuck all about ace coding atm just learning it but i know several programming langs
06:40.55CIA-1703ckknight * r20355 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - fix typo
06:40.59Mavacki fixed it locally when i saw the error :)
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06:46.47banditronhey... why does ckknight get ops?
06:46.56nymbiackknight: lol there's the problem.  side tablets don't show when you're looking at an instance map.
06:47.05nymbiatheir parent's hidden isn't it.
06:47.06ckknight_banditron, because I deserve it?
06:47.14ckknight_nymbia, hrm, quite possible.
06:47.24ckknight_I'll fix that
06:47.46Soullessckknight gets ops b/c he sleeps with the ops
06:47.49ckknightbanditron, why wouldn't I have ops?
06:47.50Soullesstrue story
06:47.53banditroni haven't written any addons. shouldn't i at least get +v?
06:48.00*** mode/#wowace [+v banditron] by ckknight
06:48.03banditronwoohoo
06:48.13Krayakini think he meant +b...
06:48.27Krayakinyou know, they're right beside each other, sometimes one slips up
06:48.27banditronyah my bad. they so close togehter..
06:49.22Soullessits not liek you need voice or anything in thsi channel anyways
06:49.39banditronyah but now i'm higher in the alphabetical list
06:49.54Soullessgratz
06:50.28ckknight+b is doable, too
06:50.41banditronno no, ckknight, i dont want to trouble you
06:50.48ckknightno, no, it's my honor
06:50.51ckknightI'll be glad to
06:50.55banditrondomo domo
06:50.59*** mode/#wowace [+b *!n=banditro@c-68-32-164-58.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] by ckknight
06:51.04Soulless+b is better banditron, its what all the cool kids get, don't you wanna be cool?
06:51.05ckknightsee, now you're one of the cool kids
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06:51.27nymbiaoh burn
06:51.38banditroni am shamed
06:51.50Soullessbtw that glorylib update fixed all my errors ckknight, ty
06:51.54ckknightyay!
06:52.19Soullessdo you have to be an author to be able to d/l from the svn?
06:52.47Soullesstook a while to update all my libs, theres a lot >_>
06:55.05kergothsigh, itd be nice if fence's sort module actually functioned
06:55.19kergothit adds a column header buyout, that when clicked on, does absolutely nothing
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06:57.05DCUI2*Yaaawn... Morning all
06:57.14CIA-1703ckknight * r20356 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - added use_yards argument to :IterateNearbyNotes and :GetNearbyNote, which will make the radius be in yards instead of points.
06:57.22ckknighthey DCUI2
06:58.06SP|Sorrenwhat's DCUI2 stand for?
06:58.11DCUI2*Stretches head back and takes a zip of coffe... almost awake
06:59.18DCUI2DCUI stands for 'Dhraga's Compiled User Interface' I maintain a compilation for several guilds on our server Azjol-Nerub
06:59.56DCUI2<-- addicted to addons ;)
07:00.21ckknightso you're Dhraga?
07:00.35DCUI2Aye
07:00.41ckknightthen why not /nick Dhraga?
07:00.53dhragaBecause it's taken :)
07:00.56ckknightah.
07:00.56dhraga:P
07:00.59DCUI2LOL =)
07:01.01Soullessi read your name and keep thinking dci as in drum corps intl, back from marchin band >_>
07:01.17DCUI2soulless... haha =?)
07:01.23neenee:)
07:01.23neeneethere.
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07:01.35ckknightDCUI2, you use my mods in your compilation? ;-)
07:01.57Dhragack, of course
07:02.01Dhraga:D
07:04.15DhragaI can tell you that the guilds I maintain the compilation for have from not knowing ace come to love ace over time
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07:05.14Soullessckk, what made you decide to build ace?
07:05.17DhragaAnd I must thank you all in this channel, for beeing extreemely helpful and nice with code helping etc
07:05.35Soullesssick of repetative code?
07:05.39ckknightSoulless, well, I'm not the original creator of Ace, Turan is, who is no longer with us (no longer plays WoW)
07:05.48ckknightthe torch was passed to Kaelten as the leader
07:06.07Soullessthats the original MG guy/girl right?
07:06.08ckknightbut when writing FuBar, I rewrote many Ace parts to make things easier
07:06.10DhragaAye, Turan, was a long time ago that... How long after Rowne did turan leave ?
07:06.31Soullessim sure you know this, but fubar shits on titan panel pretty hard
07:06.34Soullessbut contine
07:06.43ckknightand then Ace2 started getting hyped up, but it was a dream in the future
07:06.51ckknightso I ended up getting frustrated
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07:07.01ckknightand started hacking on it
07:07.05ckknighton AceLibrary, specifically
07:07.15Soullessso youre not an addon writer per se
07:07.20ckknightthen soon after, kergoth was done the preliminary version of AceOO
07:07.26Soulless<PROTECTED>
07:07.29ckknightI'm a framework author more than an addon author.
07:07.41Soullessintresting concept
07:07.41ckknightand so I hacked on AceLibrary and AceOO
07:07.57ckknightand slowly but surely me and a few others created library-by-library
07:08.10ckknightI at the time (and probably still do) have the most time to donate to the project
07:08.22ckknightso a very significant portion of the code is from my fingertips
07:08.22Soullessrich gf? >_>
07:08.35ckknightno, I'm just very frugal
07:08.38ckknightI'm not seeing anyone
07:08.45Soullesswell thats cool, theres a shitload of librarys
07:08.59ckknightI've made more libraries outside of the Ace2 core
07:09.10Soullessim not much of a coder for lua, but i know enough to be dangerous
07:09.12Soleback
07:09.12ckknighte.g. Abacus, Babble, Crayon, Dewdrop, Tourist, Tablet
07:09.14oxman^ ^
07:09.53ckknightso that's basically the history of Ace2, or at least the role I played in it
07:09.53Dhragawb  sole
07:09.53ckknighthey Sole
07:10.03Kaeltenckknight: can you get me one that writes everything for me? so I can go to sleep and have it update my mods for me?
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07:10.13ckknightget you one what?
07:10.16Dhragahaha
07:10.30ckknighta code monkey?
07:10.42Dhragano better, make it 100 mokeys
07:10.42ckknightthose are expensive nowadays
07:10.44Kaeltenno a library to do that
07:10.48ckknightunless you outsource
07:10.54ckknightbut the quality goes down then
07:11.07ckknightKaelten, I thought that was the point of Ace2
07:11.22ckknightit writes the crappy, albeit important parts of code for you
07:11.32ckknightsuch as event handling or hooking
07:11.44Soullessis there a hex library? or some sort of compression library
07:11.57DhragaWhat was that strange thing on CG, lua 5.0 to 5.1 thingy, they wanted you to download and run a exe file so I guess someone have tried to create a monkey
07:12.12ckknightSoulless, yes, there is
07:12.21Soullesscompression?
07:12.26ckknightLZW or something
07:12.34kergothnymbia, dunno if you know, but there seems to be a sort of an off-by-one error in stitch/stitchui.  i queue up 2 of an item, it makes them, then the queue pauses and theres still one of that item in the queue. if i click it, it makes a third of that item,e ven though i only ever started creating 2.
07:12.34Soullessby wenge?
07:12.34ckknightdon't know what you mean by hex library
07:13.00Soullessconverting strings of data to hex for transfer between players
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07:13.05Soullessover like an addon channel
07:13.20ckknightAceComm.
07:13.25nymbiakergoth: probably related to the stack reduction stuff I added with the new spell events.  i'll check it out, thanks :D
07:13.30kergothnp
07:13.34kergothstitchui kicks ass btw :)
07:13.42ckknightbut if you want to encrypt, there are encryption libraries
07:13.52nymbiakergoth: thanks :D
07:13.58Soullessnah just compression
07:14.04Soullessjust wanted to play with it a bit
07:14.18ckknightfrankly I don't consider compression worth it for sending messages
07:14.24ckknightif I did, it'd be in AceComm by default :-P
07:14.33ckknightsince the messages are so small already
07:14.37Soullesseven very large files?
07:14.46oxmanyes you can send a divx with that
07:14.48ckknightand it already compresses non-strings and it compresses strings through memoization
07:14.58Solehey, someone give me an idea for an addon
07:15.04ckknightSoulless, most people don't send large files to another player.
07:15.08Solemy brother wants to use my rogue to run himself through SM
07:15.11Soullessyeah
07:15.13nymbiasole, lemme look at my list.
07:15.23ckknightSole, someone needs to write E-Peen Gauge
07:15.29Soleso Im gonna code something while hes doing SM a couple times
07:15.33SachsSole, I need a QQMeter mod.
07:15.38Sole:O
07:15.42ckknightif by the time I'm done Cartographer and no one's picked that up, I may have to :-P
07:15.52SachsTo keep track of all the QQing during raids.
07:15.53ggilbert__If it's used on me it should return 36 inches.
07:16.01kergothi want haste's deadly poison / find weakness addon
07:16.06Soullesssomebody stole your cloudsong?
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07:16.25Solehmm
07:16.33SoleEpeen Gauge huh?
07:16.39ckknightSole, damage meters
07:16.45ckknightit measures your e-peen
07:16.46SoleOH
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07:16.51Solehahah
07:16.59Solehmm thats a big ass undertaking
07:17.06ckknightyes, and I believe I have skillz.
07:17.10SachsWant something smaller?
07:17.13Solehahah
07:17.17ckknighthttp://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF206-Game_Boy.jpg#195 <-- does anybody get this? I don't
07:17.28KinkxCartographer is awesome, it's missing two things though!
07:17.36Iceroth'bout damn time someone would write a decent one.. i had some hops for minnastats but when i checked the source, all 4k lines in 1 lua file, i stopped
07:17.37KinkxThat mapnotes had
07:17.38Solealright Sachs, lets hear your idea
07:17.59SoleIceroth: I cringe at the code of some addons :(
07:18.03Kinkx/qnote and /mntloc
07:18.12Sachsckknight, uhmm, no idea.. maybe he's switching rooms with his brother?
07:18.27Soleck, he makes a lego puzzle...but its not funny..its gay
07:18.33SachsSole, I still say QQMeter!
07:18.43Solehah
07:18.47Soullessmaybe somebody did a little crack and wrote a comic, who knows it the internet...
07:18.56KinkxHe stacks his room like Tetris, pretty lame
07:19.02Dhragack, He organizes the crap in his room as he organizes the Tetris blocks, booring though
07:19.12Dhragakinkx, :)
07:19.16Kinkxand his little brother got stacked in the middle of the tetris mess
07:19.23Soleand if you look at the 2nd and 4th pick...the yellow baby represents the yellow tetris block in the 2nd pic
07:19.25Dhragalol
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07:19.44Soullessckknight: you d/c like a mofo
07:19.52Soledamn art history makes me overanalyse images
07:19.58DhragaKinkx, Aye lol your right... not it got funnier
07:20.02Soleglad to be done with it lol
07:20.02ckknight_your mom d/c's like a mofo
07:20.13Dhraga*now it got even
07:21.05Dhragabtw, eemon.. it dont allow clique to click directly on the bars does it ?
07:21.21Solewow Im not even LOOKING at SW Stats to see what theyve done
07:21.28Sole28 files :O
07:22.09Soleok lets plan this out
07:22.29SoleFirst things first, create folder "EpeenGauge"
07:22.33[Ammo]morning
07:22.41Dhragamorning ammo
07:22.44Solehi ammo
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07:23.03Solehmm
07:23.18Kinkxckknight - want to add something to Cartographer which would be cool ? a slash command to add a note at your current location and with the text you specify, i.e. /cnote <interesting location text>, and another one, /cloc 46,21, marks the x,x location on your map, so it's easier to find and head to.
07:23.34DhragaIf any of you are bored and havent read this mmog webcomic, I can strongly recommend it as it will make you laugh :D http://thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip001.html
07:23.50KinkxWould be nice to have, well imo anyways
07:24.01ckknightKinkx, yea, was planning to
07:24.02Soleck, do you have any specific things about EPG that you want to share with me?
07:24.04ckknightnot really hard to do.
07:24.10KinkxAwesome! :D
07:24.17ckknightSole, no, it's just complicated
07:24.29SoleI know its complicated :(
07:24.51Solebut I know 1 thing
07:24.55Soleit just hit me actually
07:25.04Soleeach different type of data could be a seperate module
07:25.15Soleso Damage done, healing done could be seperate modules
07:25.38Dhragahave anyone heard how it goes for poor ag`I heard that he had to do some big work to get the party pets up and running again
07:26.26Dhraga*that he would have to do... that is
07:27.11Soleck: are you happy with the name EpeenGauge ?  
07:27.27Soleck: makin sure before I begin the code :P
07:27.38Kaeltenhot damn fixed that stupid graphical error
07:27.41Kaeltenon the site
07:28.07ckknightSole, seems cool with me.
07:28.14ckknightEpeenMeter is also doable
07:28.26ckknightprobably better
07:28.32Soleyaha
07:28.41SoullessMeasureUp!
07:28.52Kaeltengod IE fucks up the WoW_shop appearance
07:29.16Kaeltenit does not like IFrames
07:35.52Solehmm
07:36.00CIA-1703antiarc * r20357 10Sanity2/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
07:36.00CIA-17Sanity2: Massive performance increases. Sanity's a lot more aggressive about
07:36.01CIA-17caching and not re-doing work where possible now. Be on the lookout for things
07:36.01CIA-17that don't properly update. Made a number of small bugfixes, and added a stack
07:36.01CIA-17compression toggle, which allows you to switch between stacked mode (multiple
07:36.01CIA-17stacks show as a single line item) and individual mode (one line item per
07:36.05CIA-17stack). Also added a "stacks" column that is available from the table header
07:36.07AntiarcAnd with that, goodnight, everyone.
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07:44.09Dhragackknight, I see that micromenufu is back, thank you :)
07:46.20Dhragaregarding the class changes in the patch, so what class do you think is up for a comming and well deserved nerf then ?
07:47.47xgravixpally
07:48.10Fisker-none
07:48.16phreakywarlocks :)
07:48.19CIA-1703nargiddley * r20358 10MainAssist/MainAssist.lua: MainAssist: Attempt to prevent non-string values from getting into the tank lists.
07:48.25Mavackpeople will sook about hunters
07:48.28Fisker-as the people deserving doesn't get nerfed, and the people not deserving does get nerfed
07:48.28Dhragapally ? that's the first I've heard anyone wanted to nerf pallys
07:48.48CartasHm?
07:48.49CartasReally?
07:48.51xgravixpally heal better than priest in instances
07:48.52xgravixoh well
07:48.54CartasPaladins of course need a nerf.
07:48.58phreakyhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5846925477964878498&q=Paladin+dps+working+as+intended
07:49.09phreakyCheck that Dhraga :)
07:49.16DhragaDoing now... semi afk
07:49.26xgravixpally <- nerf nerf nerf
07:49.38DhragaLOL!
07:49.57phreakyIt's crazy tbh :)
07:50.05DhragaHaha, Phreaky LOL awsome
07:50.21phreakyyeah it's something not seen very often :)
07:50.28Dhragaalmost makes me think of 'Khazak does Stormwind' lol
07:50.50phreakyI wonder how much spelldmg and shit he has though :)
07:51.00phreakyDon't think you'll meet many pala's doing that dmg :)
07:51.16phreakyfortunatly..
07:51.58xgravixworking as intended L O L
07:52.10phreakypaladin of DOOM
07:52.16phreakyor maybe a palaDOOM
07:52.27Tekkubhrm... I need a network file server program that I can use many drives without all the bothersomeness of RAID and such
07:52.40Tekkublike, no file structure, just tags :)
07:52.42KirkburnLol, one of my quests is telling me to go to Stonebreaker hold. Pity I'm alliance and it's a horde base ...
07:52.51Tekkubit throws files on whatever drive is handy
07:53.15TekkubI add a HDD, add it to the "pool"
07:53.27Tekkubthen it starts putting files on it as need be
07:54.49CartasPaladins had good DPS pre-patch! :(
07:54.52CartasWhy did it get buffed?
07:55.43phreakyhaste: what are "Assassination timers" ? =)
07:55.43xgravixbecause that's how blizz revises talents, DUH
07:55.58xgravixsee what is overpowered and buff it a bit
07:56.10CartasMy talents weren't revised like that! :(
07:56.25xgravixyou probably had underpowered talents
07:56.28xgravixthey nerf those ones
07:56.34Cartas:(
07:56.42CartasWhy oh why did I pick a warrior?
07:56.54DhragaI'm over all happy with the patch and talent changes, are there any class you think have been 'left behind' and needs to be a bit buffed when Bc comes ?
07:56.56phreakyI did have a warrior once, stopped playing it when i got to 60..
07:56.58xgravixlrn2playwarlock/pally
07:57.08xgravixlol PRIEST
07:57.13SP|Sorrenshaman need some help imo
07:57.17xgravixshaman too
07:57.17phreakyPriests? hell no :)
07:57.21CIA-1703nymbia * r20359 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua:
07:57.21CIA-17Stitch-1.0:
07:57.21CIA-17- Fixed problems with event handling and items not getting properly removed from queue.
07:57.21CartasDhraga: Shammies and Warriors! :P
07:57.23nymbiakergoth, ^fixed
07:57.28Noekoewell my mage is lvl 66 now and i see nerf us :P
07:57.43NoekoePOM + Pyro is very deadly
07:57.46DhragaCartas, dps or prot Warriors ?
07:57.49CartasEither: Nerf hunters/mages/warlocks/paladins OR buff warriors/shaman :P
07:57.51phreakyi got a 70 mage, boost plz =( Considering rerolling warlock in tbc tbh
07:57.54Noekoewhen added COmbustion even more ;)
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07:58.05CartasProt. is okay as far as a I know, now, Dhraga. So DPS.
07:58.07Noekoei eat any lock for breakfast
07:58.08SP|Sorrencartas, nerf rogues too
07:58.14CartasYeh :P
07:58.17Noekoei eat any class for breakfast
07:58.22phreakyNoekoe: 5-6k pyroblast doesnt matter on a hunter with 9k hp =( then they kill u anyway =)
07:58.28KirkburnHeh, I just got address as "imba warlock" by someone on beta :P
07:58.28Noekoei kill mobs 1 level higgher with one pyro
07:58.36DhragaCartas Aye I agree, about raising the few left behind instead of nerfing all
07:58.45Noekoephreaky, wanna bet? ;)
07:58.49SP|Sorrenthat's why i carry a flame reflector.
07:58.59phreakyNoekoe: If i had something to bet, yea ^^
07:59.00nymbialol
07:59.03CartasI got pyroblasted for 6.5k the other day :(
07:59.11phreakyI really disliked pvping as a 70 mage..
07:59.13NoekoeSP|Sorren, your fire reflector has no use when ur sheeped
07:59.13Cartasand it wasn't even in BG's, so no 'zerk buff! :(
07:59.26SP|Sorrensheep is of no use against LOLIMTHEJUGGERNAUGHTBITCH.
07:59.27Noekoeget hit with a pyro and right after that another one = instant dead
07:59.47nymbiarofl
07:59.49phreaky1 kill every third minute when cd's are out =)
08:00.17Noekoebut imo PVP = da sucks :)
08:00.24CartasSix thousand and five hundred damage from a single pyroblast!!!!!!!
08:00.25Noekoeremove it from game pls
08:00.28DhragaCartas, we have had a dps warrior at the no1 top dmg on all our raids, and he dies quite frequently due to massive aggro, so I would pressume that he's missing out on about 10% dmg... but still he was undisputed no1 before 2.0... he did silly dmg
08:00.30phreaky<- pve
08:00.30CartasC'mon guys, look at that!
08:00.31Noekoewant pvp play CSS ffs
08:00.59Soullessi pyroed a sham for 5.2k 5 mins ago on live servers
08:01.01CartasWell, yeh...
08:01.08DhragaNow our dps warrior is still in the top 3, but is more even with the rest
08:01.09phreakyCartas: You were a warrior in zerkstance and recklessness? =)
08:01.25CartasThe problem is, they didn't just nerf our PvEing capabilities, they crushed us in PvE, and that meant we were even worse in PvP! :(
08:01.34CartasYes, Phreaky!
08:01.39Cartas:P
08:01.40phreakyCartas: That explains the dmg :)
08:01.43nymbiaNoekoe: so you're playing on a pve server and using pyro in only pve situations, and you're talking about how powerful it is in pvp?
08:01.46CartasThat explains the OVERPOWREDEREDness
08:01.52Noekoeuhm
08:01.58Noekoei never ever will play on a PVE server
08:02.01SoullessLOLTRINKETMAGE
08:02.10Dhraga<-- carebear here (PvE
08:02.12phreakyCartas: How much more dmg taken does that do? =) +30% or more? =)
08:02.23Soullesszerker stance is 10
08:02.27Soullesszerker buff is 10
08:02.38phreakyRecklessness then? Do that increase dmg take?
08:02.39Noekoethat i dont like PVP doesnt mean i never PVP
08:02.40phreakytaken*
08:02.56CartasNoekoe, can't people on PvE realms PvP? :o
08:03.04Soullessrecklessness is 20%
08:03.04Noekoethey can
08:03.06CIA-1703sayclub * r20360 10Automaton/modules/ (8 files): Automaton:Update locals koKR
08:03.15Noekoebut not anywhere they like at any time
08:03.24phreakySoulless: ok, so that means +30% dmg on a warrior in both zerkstance and with recklessness
08:03.24CartasWell, they can just go into BG's :p
08:03.35Soullesshmm
08:03.35NoekoeBG = even more sucky
08:03.39CartasOn my so-called PvP realm, pretty much 95% of PvPing I find is in BG's.
08:03.40Noekoegime tarren mill!!
08:03.45Noekoeoutdoor pvp ftw..
08:03.46Soullessdont forget deathwish
08:03.49CartasI agree! :O
08:03.50Dhragaafk
08:03.55Soullesswhich is 5%
08:03.59CartasJust a shame that I can't find any anymore :(
08:04.04CartasI don't have Deathwish, Soulless :P
08:04.11Soullessso thats what, 1.1*1.1*1.2*1.05
08:04.12phreakyI play on a pvp realm but almost never pvp outdoors if not attacked first..
08:04.18CartasIt's a shame that one of the best warrior abilities, with a 30min cooldown, makes us be one-shotted.
08:04.23Noekoesame phreaky
08:04.45phreakybut it's nice to be on a pvp realm .. then u at least CAN attack a horde anoying you =)
08:04.48Soulless1.1*1.1*1.2*1.05?
08:04.51Noekoeyeh
08:04.54phreakyBut it can be anoying questing in STV when lvling :)
08:04.54CartasHorde FTW.
08:04.55Soullesslame you guys need an infobot >_>
08:05.01Noekoewell you have a bit more of excitement on a pvp realm :)
08:05.13Noekoeyou have to watch your back always :p
08:05.15CartasIt's the best when levelling, that's true :D
08:05.18Soulless152% if you pop all that shit
08:05.20Gngsk~purl 1.1*1.1*1.2*1.05
08:05.23purl1.5246
08:05.25CartasWhen the whole server is at the same point as you, NoeKoe! :P
08:05.33phreakyI'd love to be pvp disabled when lvling, to enable it when hitting 60 :)
08:05.34CartasThen if you make a new char, it's pretty much empty.
08:05.40Noekoeyeh will be fun when outland opens :p
08:05.43Cartas:)
08:05.51CartasMe and my brother will own all once again! :P
08:05.53Noekoe5k people of both factions landing in Hellfire :P
08:06.02Noekoewill be massive pvp war
08:06.02CartasUnless there's an alliance mage/hunter/warlock/paladin logged in...
08:06.04CartasThen I'm dead :(
08:06.09phreakyI wonder how much outdoor pvp there will be when thousands of ppl start questing in hellfire and fighting about the quest item drops... yay..
08:06.12nymbiai think i'll go start in zangarmarsh to be honest, lol.
08:06.24phreakyI'm gonna start the first two lvls or so in instances for sure =)
08:06.29Noekoewell
08:06.35Noekoegood thing is mobs respawn after 5mins
08:06.39CartasI'll level up in Tyr's Hand, I bet no-one is there then!
08:06.45Soulless~purl 1.5226*1.3*1.3
08:06.47purl2.573194
08:06.47Noekoebut i will be sure first day hellfire opens
08:07.02Noekoei do all quests in one day and in zngramrsh too so i have a bit of a head start
08:07.48Noekoethey have put like 30+ quests in Nagrand tho
08:07.51Noekoethat will be sucky
08:07.59Noekoesince nagrand is pvp arera
08:08.05Cartas:|
08:08.07phreakylvling fast is good.. then I'll pick up my black book with names of ppl that ganked and corpsecamped me earlier.. mouaha
08:08.11CartasSays Mr."PvE realms suck".
08:08.17CartasStop whining about PvPing! :o
08:08.23Noekoeno lol :)
08:08.30Noekoei just love this game :P
08:08.42Cartaslol, phreaky.
08:08.51CartasJust go into Outland, and crush any opposition you find.
08:09.01oxmanwe can do that /cast [target=targettarget;harmfull] spell
08:09.04phreakyCartas: I just gotta hit 70 before my mortal enemies! :)
08:09.06CartasThat's the way the game is meant to be played!
08:09.15CartasThey can't level up if they're dead, can they?
08:09.19oxmanWhen the target is not harmfull we cast on target ? or the macro is stopped ?
08:10.50nymbiaoxman: /cast [target=targettarget;harm] spell; [target=target] spell
08:11.06anenigmaoxman: a, you mean [target=targettarget;harm].  also, that will cast 'spell' on your targets target, if it is not 'green' to you, aka not allied
08:11.38Elkano~jif
08:11.56oxmanok nymbia and anenigma
08:11.58Elkano~tal
08:11.59purlAligns common trailing characters. URL: http://home.pages.de/~jensen/tal/
08:12.01oxmanbut is it possible to do that in addon ?
08:12.05oxmanit seems to be impossible
08:12.14oxmanHum forget its possible
08:12.24Elkano~tal-0
08:12.26ckknight[target=targettarget,hram]
08:12.28ckknightharm*
08:12.34ckknightit's a comma, not a semicolon
08:12.43oxmanindeed
08:12.48nymbiaoops, that it is.
08:12.48anenigmahehe, yup.  ckknight wins
08:12.55oxmanand about a selfcast on rightclick how have one to all addon ?
08:13.47oxmanbecause rightwing do that for main bar, but not for all bars addon
08:14.02oxmanthen I dunno where the author of rightwing have find the doc about "unit2" I found nothing about that
08:15.53Noekoegusy is there another mod for castbars liek oCB?
08:16.52phreakyeCastingbar ?
08:16.58KirkburnWhat's wrong with oCB? :)
08:17.11phreakyLast time i tried oCB it didnt have enemy cast bar
08:17.13phreakylike eCastbar did
08:17.32phreakyI missed that
08:17.33KirkburnThis is true
08:17.46Kirkburnhaste, add an enemy castbar pwease :)
08:17.47phreakySo i changed to eCastingbar
08:17.58phreakyYes please do that so i can use oCB again :)
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08:18.20NoekoeKirkburn, my locks get errors when making shards
08:18.27Noekoethey cant loot them or so
08:19.28KirkburnNo errors here
08:19.34KirkburnWhat kind of errors?
08:19.37Noekoeyou are a lock?
08:19.47Noekoecause im a mage and oCB works fine with me also
08:20.08Noekoewell the error is they cant loot shards from mobs cause oCB gives some error
08:20.24Noekoedunno exactly but 5 locks say the same thing
08:20.27KirkburnWell, I don't know what's up with your version of oCB, but it doesn't
08:20.37Noekoeas said mine works fine :)
08:20.48KirkburnAh
08:20.50Kirkburnheh
08:20.57Noekoejust locks have troubels with it
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08:21.11Noekoeill ask them again for the precise error
08:21.12KirkburnNot this one ^^ ... I doubt it's oCB's fault anyway
08:21.20Noekoeyeh me too
08:21.21KirkburnProbably something else interfering
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08:21.58[VM]AusomeHas anyone got a link to somewhere that might explain the paging feature in bongos?
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08:26.19oxmanI find nothing about "unit2" when I scan file provide by the blizzard extractor
08:27.29CIA-1703nymbia * r20361 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
08:27.29CIA-17GrindStatus:
08:27.29CIA-17- Fixed GetRealNumFactions for characters without an 'inactive' header.
08:29.39Mavacki can't believe opera IRC client i've been in this channel for like 3 days now
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08:33.47DhragaI'm using the latest version of oCB and I'm a lock, and havent noticed any problem
08:35.41oxmando to a selfcast I must made something like clique ? I mean do a :SetAttribute for each bar frames ?
08:35.48Solealright so Im gonna do something noob right now
08:36.48nymbiaSole: ?
08:37.04Solewhat is the purpose of metatables?
08:37.08andremaroxman: just turn on auto-selfcast in blizzard options?
08:37.15SoleI cant find any documentation about them
08:37.17Solebut I see them used
08:37.20SP|SorrenoCB's supposed to show interrupts right?
08:37.21oxmanThere is not right click selfcast
08:37.21oxman;)
08:37.26oxmannot/no
08:37.44andremaraha
08:38.00oxmanslouken plan to add it or no ?
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08:39.57andremardont know
08:40.31oxmanMinigameFrame in blizzard file ?!
08:40.36oxmanWhat's that ? :D
08:42.38Elkanoit's been around since 1.11 or so and never worked ;) maybe they use it internal to play TicTacToe ;)
08:42.49oxman:p
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08:43.58oxman2:RightButton "map any button to right button in state 2"
08:44.03oxmanwhat does mean "in state 2" ?
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08:50.06PProvostWhat does priority mean in grid?
08:50.47Elkanonymbia, you have writen some advanced fection handling stuff for Grinder, haven't you?
08:51.54HjaltePProvost: It means, that if you bind two features to one corner, the one with the higher priority will be shown instead of the other, if both is active
08:52.38PProvostOkay. Cool.
08:52.41PProvostThanks
08:52.53PProvostI'm learning to love it.
08:53.03PProvostWasn't sure at first, but I think I love it now. :)
08:53.07nymbiaElkano: yeah, some.  why do you ask?
08:53.09HjalteJust play around with it and you'll understand it quickly :)
08:53.51Elkanowould you mind exprting it to a lib and add SetWatchedFactionByName? :)
08:55.03ElkanoI have some code pending for FactionsFu to change watched faction based on zone but collapsed faction groups keep me from putting it live :/
08:55.47nymbiaElkano: hm.  i'm not sure if there's really enough reason to make it a lib -- there's only like 2 functions it's got as far as data access that the API doesnt have, and you're welcome to put em in your code.  lemme pastey 'em, one sec.
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08:57.21KirkburnI just caused 5 infinite spawn mobs to appear ... in Shattrath :D
08:57.22Elkanowell, you are doing GetRealNumFactions or sth like that so you most likely keep track of all factions
08:58.08Dhragaanyone using the eemon ?
08:58.14oxmannop
08:58.28nymbiaElkano: it's actually just an iterate at loadtime (and whenever a faction is added) to determine the REAL max faction index, since GetNumFactions() is bad.
08:58.32Dhragaox, any other em `?
08:58.47nymbiaElkano: http://ace.pastey.net/3506
08:59.35Elkanohmm... suggest a good faction library name ;)
08:59.35nymbianote that realnumfactions is a local defined at the top so that the iterate will only run once if the number of factions hasnt changed
08:59.40nymbiahmmmmmm
08:59.54DhragaCorrect me if I'm wrong, but the emergency monitors cant be clicked to target or clickheal players after 2.0 or have anyone found a way around it ?
09:00.23nymbiaDhraga: correct, there's no way around it.
09:00.44Solehmm
09:00.50Soleckknight, you around?
09:00.51nymbiaElkano: Plod.
09:00.51Dhragaah great, then I wont have to add one... Iäm totally satisfied with grid
09:01.00Sole~seen ckknight
09:01.16purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'it's a comma, not a semicolon'.
09:01.16oxmangrid + clique = perfect combo
09:01.17oxman:)
09:01.17ckknightSole, I have never left you, child
09:01.17ElkanoPlod?
09:01.17DhragaOx, Aye agree
09:01.18Soleyay
09:01.20nymbiaPlod.
09:01.23nymbialol
09:01.23Soleok ck
09:01.30SoleIve got a design decision to make
09:01.33ckknightk
09:01.40SoleIm splitting up all the parsing into seperate files
09:01.49Solesuch as damage done, healing done, damage taken
09:01.52Elkanosorry, I don't get it
09:01.53ckknightParserLib ftw?
09:01.57Solenow the question is whether to make them modules
09:02.00Soleyes parserlib :)
09:02.05ckknighthrm
09:02.08ckknightmaybe...
09:02.09Solesee
09:02.26Soleif they are modules then they can be disabled to reduce cpu usage
09:02.28tekkub1okey this is driving me nuts
09:02.33CIA-1703nymbia * r20362 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
09:02.33CIA-17GrindStatus:
09:02.33CIA-17- Fixed a check for those sneaky non-headers.
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09:02.41Solebut then data for raids might not be as accurate because someone might be out of range
09:02.44nymbiatekkub1: ?
09:03.04tekkub1you think someone would have a server software somewhere that would allow you to pool free space from many HDDs/computers into one big distributed file system
09:03.05Solebut if the module is enabled for all 40 people in the raid then its all good, if its not then there might by inaccuracies
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09:03.12nymbiaElkano: like.. plodding along.. or something.. lol
09:03.34Tekkubmake it so that the actual data location is transparent
09:03.51TekkubI.E. all my network's free space becomes one big file server
09:04.07nymbiathat'd be handy
09:04.14PProvostTekkub, you mean NFS?
09:04.25DarkCursehey guys im new to the channel - would here be the appropriate place for troubleshooting info?
09:04.29PProvostOhh... automatic free space gravving.
09:04.34Soleck, any input?
09:04.34ckknightyes, DarkCurse
09:04.36ckknightdepending.
09:04.38DarkCurseheh
09:04.38oxmanSole split ? about which addon ?
09:04.43SoleDarkCurse, usualy yeah
09:04.44PProvostDarkCurse, yes, but be persistent if someone acts like a twit. :)
09:04.47Tekkubdoes NFS work like that?
09:04.55ckknightSole, try to go modular if possible
09:04.57DarkCurseok well i always used to be a CT mod fanboy, and just recently found these ace addions
09:05.01Tekkubcan each client contribute space to the system
09:05.03nymbialol, twit.
09:05.03PProvostNFS would make you configure it in advancem but you wouldn't know where things were.
09:05.04Soleoxman: new addon...a damage meter addon to rule them all
09:05.05ckknightDarkCurse, go on.
09:05.06DarkCurseand they work and look great, but...
09:05.09Tekkubor is it all just on the sever?
09:05.11PProvostbut...
09:05.21ckknightbut you want to thank us for the awesome?
09:05.22DarkCurserecently ive been trying to right cick and drag so that my character would move a certain way
09:05.25PProvostTekkub, many servers... all over the network... you don't know where they are?
09:05.32Tekkubbut... I couldn't dynamically add space in could I?
09:05.35DarkCursebut now i have to click and re click in order to get the dude to comply
09:05.36PProvostDarkCurse, which addons are you using?
09:05.38PProvostTekkub, sure you can.
09:05.39TekkubI know where they are
09:05.44Tekkubthey're all in my apt
09:05.44DarkCurseuh gimme a sec il tell u them all
09:05.57SoleDarkCurse: I had that issue this morning..but it sorted itself out
09:05.58oxmanSole oh ok
09:06.01SoleI thought it was my mouse
09:06.06TekkubI just want to take all the free space I have and make full use of it, from on unified interface
09:06.10PProvostSole, did you update somethign?
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09:06.13ckknightdon't spam the channel
09:06.17Tekkubfuck having a fileserver, and raid, and all that shit
09:06.25DarkCurseag unit frames, minimalist, elkbuffbar, bartender3, mobhealth3, antagonist, inflight
09:06.25PProvostMeh
09:06.26DarkCursethats all
09:06.34Tekkubhalf my unused storage is on each computer's local drive
09:06.41andremarTekkub: just create a circular route on the internet, and store stuff in the loop :p
09:06.52nymbialol
09:06.54PProvostHmm... I don't see anything odd there DarkCurse. Perhaps just refresh them... you may have gotten a bum version.
09:07.08SolePProvost: I mightve :P
09:07.14DarkCursehmm yeah maybe - but is that a frequent problem - i see sole saying the same thing kinda
09:07.20DarkCurselike u guys understand what i mean right?
09:07.21andremarSole: are you creating a recap-kinda addon?
09:07.22PProvostTry disabling them one at a time untilt eh problem goes away. Then holler at us which one it is. :)
09:07.26SolePProvost: Are you saying this might be a WinAceUpdater thing?
09:07.31Soleandremar: possibly
09:07.46PProvostI don't think WAU is causing it, but you may have had a bum version earlier inthe day that went away Sole.
09:07.47nymbia~blame PProvost
09:07.50purlACTION blames PProvost (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
09:07.51nymbia;)
09:07.53Soleandremar: Im trying to find a way to not make it completely wtfown mem usage
09:08.00PProvostFunniest part is that I'm Canadian. :)
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09:08.07Solehahahahah (and Canada)
09:08.07andremarSole: aha, sounds good :)
09:08.10Tekkubgod damnit Mikk
09:08.29Solehmm
09:08.36PProvostSo Dark, is it intermittent? Predictable? Can you identify which addon caused it?
09:08.43PProvostRepro steps helps a lot.
09:08.51DarkCurseuh i have no clue at this point i guess i go thru trial and error
09:09.06DarkCurseits kinda predictable like i can say one out of 10 clicks would cause it
09:09.28DarkCurseand idk if its like because a frame or something is over where i am clicking
09:09.38PProvostHmmm... I run aguf, bar3, mobhealth3, antagonist and haven't seen it.
09:09.41DarkCurseor if its just totally random
09:09.44PProvostSole, you see any overlap with your list and his?
09:09.45ckknightPProvost, you're Canadian?
09:09.49ckknighthow could you?
09:09.55ckknightafter all we've been through...
09:09.57PProvostCanadian who's been living inthe US since I was 3.
09:10.00nymbiarofl
09:10.07PProvostGreen card since I was 7
09:10.07ckknightsame here, only since I was 4
09:10.20Soleok guys (really just ck), design decision time again:   should EPM modules only track your own info (as in only read events relating to the player) or should they track info from all surrounding players and then compile it all
09:10.30PProvostSole, you see my question?
09:10.35ckknightSole, mmm... compile it all
09:10.52Solebecause as I see it, in a perfect setup everyone will be running their own instance of the addon and when it syncs then they will all have saved a shitload of mem usage by only parsing their data
09:10.55andremarcompile it all, but sync with others so each event only gets aggregated once
09:11.10PProvostDarkCurse, sorry I couldn't help more. Try to troubleshoot it a bit and get back to us.
09:11.12PProvostI gotta go.
09:11.13PProvostNight all.
09:11.15DarkCurseyeah i def will
09:11.18andremaror only compile for people not running the addon sole
09:11.19DarkCursethx man peace
09:11.29PProvostWAU 1.6 beta 1 is out! Get it and test it and report bugs at the sf.net site!
09:11.37[VM]AusomeAnyone around who's fairly proficient with Bartender3 page swapping?
09:11.40SolePProvost: yea I did sorry, I run bt3, antagonist
09:11.43nymbiaPProvost: nice, thanks :D
09:11.44oxmanPProvost wau ?
09:11.50PProvostWowAceUpdater
09:11.56DarkCurseok yeah thanks everyone for their help - im gonna go to sleep its 4am here
09:11.56[VM]AusomeShould be a fairly straightforward question ^^
09:12.03PProvostNight Dark
09:12.06oxmanok
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09:12.27Soleandremar: that sounds like a good idea
09:12.41Soleonly compile data for others if they arent running the addon
09:12.45Soleotherwise just stick to yourself
09:12.55odtanyone know a way to have aguf display druid mana in feral forms?
09:13.03odtin addition to rage/energy
09:13.03waffle^_what's new in 1.6?
09:13.26odtor some other mod that can be styled using standard ace textures
09:13.30andremara dingo
09:14.50PProvostwaffle^_, the sorting bug is fixed.
09:14.51PProvost:)
09:14.59waffle^_sweet :>
09:15.07PProvostIt has a new user-agent string to Kaelten can track usage. :)
09:15.19PProvostAnd fixes those bugs that happen when the files server doesn't answer right.
09:15.27PProvostAnd has a new zip library which should work better
09:15.40nymbianeato
09:16.31Solewow this is gonna be a hell of an interesting project :P
09:16.55ckknightSole, :-)
09:17.07PProvostNight all
09:17.10Dhragaguys 'n gals, what happend to the !!StandaloneLibraries on the /files/ ?
09:17.16nymbianight PProvost
09:17.23Dhragann pprovost
09:17.54nymbiaDhraga: it's filtered out because it doesnt have a .toc file.  speaking of, Kaelten, you still around?
09:18.10Dhragaok
09:19.57Kaeltenum, I try not be, loosing weight is good
09:20.34ckknightthat's not always true
09:20.57Mikmai just explained to my wife how did our dog poop and what was the poop like
09:21.15ckknightgood times had by all.
09:21.19ckknightespecially the dog
09:21.24Dhragaheh
09:21.39nymbiaKaelten: !!!StandaloneLibraries isn't getting zipped because it hasn't got a .toc file -- is there a way to get around that or should we just add a dummy toc so it'll zip?
09:23.07Mikmasundday monday happy poop
09:25.14Mikmaabbat's happyday!!!!!!http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5207/discord-action-bars-v3-18-beta/
09:26.17ckknightew discor
09:26.18ckknightd
09:27.22Solehmm
09:27.52Soleck, I feel a bit daft but what are the advantages of AceComm over simply using the addon communication functions?
09:28.02naeneeNow all the people who tried Ace as a temporary solution can go back to their beloved Discord :P
09:28.05Soleall I can see is it has built in channels already
09:28.26ckknightSole, automatic serialization/deserialization, encoding/decoding, etc.
09:28.33ckknightall transparent, too
09:28.43ckknightnaenee, :-(
09:29.47naeneeckknight: Well, it does feel like that to me.. Various people in my guild were very happy a new Discord was out and they're going back very quickly, to their old interface :| Some are staying with Ace though and ora2/bigwigs seems to have taken over the place of ctra after the patch :D
09:29.56ElkanoSole, it reduces the sice of data sent so you can put more data through the channels without risking a disconnect due to flooding
09:30.20ckknighteventually we shall conquer
09:30.36ckknightuntil then, the eternal struggle rages on
09:30.54Elkano"The American will shoot. Will you?"
09:31.06naeneeWell, the Ace community has definitely grown and isn't stopping anytime soon :)
09:31.28naeneeElkano - It depends on if he killed me. Then again, I do not have a gun.
09:31.47naeneePerhaps I can shoot a picture of him :)
09:32.18Elkanowell, I played an educational HL² mod yesterday and there were some WWII wallpapers(?) in it
09:32.31naeneeAh.
09:32.47naeneeYes, WWII created some interesting propaganda.
09:33.34Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3631 <- neat
09:33.39Elkanoever seen the disney cartoons from back then?
09:34.12Mikmayeah
09:34.20Mikmadonald duck vs hitler ;)
09:35.10naeneeThere are some very bad disney cartoons, many with sexual references too, Freud would have a field day.
09:36.06Mikma~emulate Thalie
09:36.12purlShut the f*** up, sbu
09:36.28Mikma~emulate ckknight
09:36.30purlACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
09:36.34Mikma~emulate Mikma
09:36.36purlBenumbed: It's broken, fix it!
09:37.33CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20363 10Bartender3/ (3 files):
09:37.33CIA-17Bartender3:
09:37.33CIA-17- fixed an error in button class
09:37.33CIA-17- changing the number of buttons per bar should work again
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09:39.40Mikmanevcairiel: petbar? :)
09:39.53Kaeltenis there a fubar module that'll show me the name of the xml object my cursor is over?
09:39.55nevcairielcosmetic issues have the lowest priority of all
09:40.31Mikmanevcairiel: so if i add my superduper-code in you'll marder me?
09:40.38ElkanoKaelten, maybe DevTools framestack does that
09:42.01ckknightKaelten, /print GetMouseFocus()
09:42.03ckknight:-P
09:42.27Soleanyway gnite guys
09:42.37SoleIll try get an alpha of EpeenGauge tommorow
09:42.44Soleprobably wont but Ill try
09:43.10andremarSole|sleep: cool :)
09:43.16odtMikma: can you send me your diff for the petbar fix? :)
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09:44.16Mikmaodt: i COULD if i had it :)
09:45.10Mikmai'm too afraid to fix it because nevcairiel is a bitch
09:45.24odt:D
09:45.41naeneeodt: A ag_UnitFrames petbar fix?
09:45.51odt.oO ( yeah, can you believe that disclaimer :P )
09:45.52Mikmano, bartender3 petbar fix
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09:46.02naeneeOh
09:46.06naeneeokay, good too :)
09:46.13CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20364 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_BarStates.lua): Bartender3: teh right-click selfcasting is teh back
09:46.24Mikmanice one bitch
09:46.27naeneeNice :)
09:46.28Silviu-thx nevcairiel
09:46.33Silviu-Finnaly ^^
09:46.42andremarMikma: whats bugged with petbar?
09:46.52nevcairielits showing the background texture -.-
09:47.03nevcairielthats all what he means
09:47.08andremarok :p
09:47.17andremarI have another petbar issue: no cooldown counter :/
09:47.27andremarthat swiping thingy is so hard to see
09:47.41nevcairieli have no idea if i actually could hook into their cooldown
09:47.42ck|gannia raid-list as perfect-raid has however would still be great (again) for aguf. ;-)
09:47.47andremark
09:47.48nevcairieldid OmniCC do that, actually?
09:47.55andremardont know
09:48.01andremarnever had waterelemental with omnicc
09:48.13odtomnicc did it
09:48.19odti used it before 2.0
09:48.25nevcairielokay, then its possible
09:48.35odtat least i remember that i saw the cooldown on furious howl
09:48.49Mikmayeah. PetBar uses NormalTexture2
09:49.10nevcairieljust hiding it wouldnt help tho mikma, it comes back when the blizz code updates the button
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09:49.24Mikmanevcairiel: SetTexCoord like others?
09:49.54HealthGrid supports onmouseover yet!?
09:50.00Healthmacro
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09:50.23nymbiaalways has..
09:51.13Kaeltenwhats the damned color format?
09:51.15Mikmanevcairiel: you know what i noticed with BT3 + petbar?
09:51.15KaeltenI can't remember
09:51.22Kaeltenis it |caarrggbb?
09:51.26nymbiayes
09:51.47Kaeltendamn the things I can't remember
09:52.01Mikmanevcairiel: the buttons are draggable :D (this is not doable with blizz bar)
09:52.17Kaeltendo I need to put a second | after that?
09:52.27MikmaKaelten: hmm, nope
09:52.37Kaeltenk, didn't think so but the memory is fuzzy
09:52.54Kaelten:)
09:52.55MikmaKaelten: like local RED = |c11110000
09:53.02Mikmathat's how i did it some time ago
09:53.05Kaeltenbeen working on websites and other stuff for too long
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09:54.57Elkanohmm... LocationFu or RecZone?
09:55.10Mikmagotta run, school waits. see ya noobs + ckknight_
10:00.15CIA-1703nymbia * r20365 10GrindStatus/modules/!!NewFactionTemplate.lua:
10:00.15CIA-17GrindStatus:
10:00.15CIA-17- Updated new faction template
10:00.48ck|ganniDoes someone has a working version of agUF_RangeCheck from Sairen? http://sairen.wind-force.net/download/ seems to be down for like a week now. :-(
10:02.18Elkanohttp://www.wowace.com/files/agUF_RangeCheck/ ?
10:02.36ck|ganniNope, it is not hosted on wowace.com
10:02.47nymbiait isnt?
10:02.51odtbecause it doesn't have a 20000 toc probably
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10:03.05nymbiai remember a commit on that earlier tonight
10:03.28Elkanovhaarr did some changes tody but they most likely haven't been enought ;)
10:03.34ck|ganniAt least I cannot find it there. Every link I had points to the URL mentioned above.
10:03.45ck|ganniAnd http://www.wowace.com/files/agUF_RangeCheck/ gives 404. ;)
10:04.03Elkanohttp://www.wowace.com/files/aUF_RangeCheck/
10:04.19ck|gannierm... *blush*
10:04.21DhragaI think the nonace HealingRangeAlpha addon supports all secure frames
10:04.42ck|ganniNo that's to easy, isn't it? -.-
10:04.59ck|ganniSomeone should update the link within the aguf-FAQ. *cough*
10:05.17ck|ganniBut thanks! :-)
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10:07.08abbat_wmorning guys
10:07.54SoLoRckknight_ zoneinfo in cartographer doesnt work if map is locked... future or bug?
10:08.21Sroshpast
10:08.46odtpresent
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10:10.01CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20366 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: cooldown count for the petbar, kinda ugly-ish right now, might need to improve at some point
10:10.28SoLoR:(
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10:14.23naeneedum dee dum
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10:15.45oxmanwhy everything is nil SecureFrameTemplate, SecureActionButtonTemplate, etc
10:16.51Nargiddleythey're templates, dont exist in lua as far as i know
10:17.35oxmanbecause I want do GetChildren()
10:17.50oxmanto know which addon use "SecureActionButtonTemplate"
10:18.05Kirkburnnevcairiel, cool update, shall have to test
10:18.05CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20367 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: cleaned redundant cooldown code, its better now :)
10:18.08Nargiddleythey arent a frame with children, just a template that frames can inherit
10:18.09nevcairielits not actually a child of that frame
10:18.13nevcairielits inherited
10:18.26oxmanSo I can't know which frame inherite from this one ?
10:18.34Nargiddleynot that i know of
10:18.36nevcairieli dont think so
10:18.40oxmanSo bad :(
10:18.47odtnevcairiel is on a roll
10:19.20nevcairieli should probably do my stupid tic tac toe game for programming class tho
10:19.24oxmanI can't do my foreach allFramesInheritfromSecureActionButtonTemplate; bla:SetAttribute("unit2", "player")
10:19.25oxman;/
10:22.07anenigmais there a new theorycraft=ish mod out yet?
10:23.13SroshKaelten, there's still sth fishy with the forums... I keep getting Session verification failed errors on clicking "mark as read" and the "new" button next to threads doesn't work either
10:23.23Teazlenevcairiel im having a prob with b3, bar10 refuses to show the hotkey assigned to it, currently on r20364
10:23.54lassizciAre the stancepages back in bt3 already?
10:24.00nevcairieloh right i had a fix for that
10:24.15CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20368 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: bar10 will show keybindings as well
10:24.24lassizcior what were they called..
10:24.27Teazleyeay! tyvm
10:24.58nevcairieleverything that ever was in BT3 should be back now
10:25.20lassizciok, nice
10:25.26odtnevcairiel: there's a small issue i discovered yesterday with stanceswitching. it doesn't work for catform, if you haven't gotten the aquatic form before
10:25.31odtjust some minor oddity
10:25.34nevcairielodt: i know
10:25.52CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20369 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Added support for Alt-Invite. If you alt click on the player name (like you would for a whisper) they will be invited to your group
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10:26.03nevcairielodt: the mechanism to fix that is already in, but i didnt add the option yet so that players can tell BT3 that they skipped aquatic
10:26.20odtk :)
10:26.21nevcairielcomeone, on lvl 60 that quest takes about 30mins .. just do it :P
10:26.37nevcairielif its even that long
10:26.43odti did it, at level 21
10:27.07nevcairielare the stances in the wrong order then ? :o
10:27.11naeneeWhy would people skip the aquatic form anyway?
10:27.29Teazlecause it could potentially be a pain
10:27.41nevcairieli wouldnt want to miss my aquatic form
10:27.49naeneeMe neither
10:28.06nevcairielodt: if you do the aquatic form after you got your cat form, is aquatic 2 or 3 then?
10:28.17naeneeHow can it be a pain to have the ability to swim faster and without having the breathe?
10:28.31Teazlehm, i cant remember my googlelogin, so i can post on ag's codebase for ag_uf :/ think ive found a bug, though i guess i might not be the first
10:29.00odtnevcairiel: 2 still
10:29.05odti guess
10:29.13odti don't have the stancebar enabled
10:29.16nevcairielhehe
10:29.37nevcairielok so if you do the quest afterwards it reorders them correctly
10:29.38odtgonna check it if the realms come up
10:30.28sylvanaaryou know, people asking for feature changes ought to at least try to be helpful
10:31.25sylvanaar<oxman> I have a little patch about playernames
10:31.46sylvanaar<sylvanaar> do you know how to creat a diff?
10:31.51oxman:)
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10:31.55sylvanaar<oxman> I don't want create one sorry
10:32.14oxmanIts not a feature
10:32.18oxmanbut a bug fix
10:32.21oxmanyou don't want fix it
10:32.21sylvanaari dont care what it is
10:32.23oxmanI fix it locally
10:32.25oxmannevermind
10:32.25oxman:)
10:33.18CIA-1703elkano * r20370 10lern2count/Default/Bongos_Buttons.lua:
10:33.18CIA-17lern2count
10:33.18CIA-17- fixed support for Bongos
10:33.57naeneeright..
10:34.14oxmanIt seems to be hard to have a list of inherits frame from securetemplate :|
10:34.21odtnevcairiel: yes, aquatic will still be nr. 2
10:34.26nevcairielokies
10:34.37nevcairielso i dont need to worry about weird reordering :D
10:34.49nevcairieljust toggling the aquatic to off
10:34.50Teazleuhm, anyone happen to be able to link me to ag's codepage on google?
10:34.56sbuheh Mikma, whay did you do to purl :/
10:35.30Teazlenvm, ofc i found it now
10:36.36CIA-1703nymbia * r20371 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
10:36.36CIA-17GrindStatus:
10:36.36CIA-17- Scratch using names for GetRealNumFactions(), it returns "Other" for invalid indexes, but only on some characters! /sigh. Using the second return, description, now. I'll cry if it doesnt work.
10:37.15Elkanoanyone playing a shaman on beta realms?
10:37.23naeneetest
10:37.24naeneeok.
10:38.02dreamss22no but why u ask elk?
10:38.14ElkanoI would need so testing a small thing
10:40.00dreamss22i have a shaman in retail
10:40.28nevcairieli have a lvl 7 draenei shaman on beta :P
10:40.32Elkanowell, I do, too. But I need to know if the 'bug' is already fixed
10:40.55ElkanoI need one with Sentry Totem
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10:41.09Elkanowhich is 30 or 40+ iirc
10:41.10nevcairielcopy yours?
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10:46.19xlviiExternal: C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\FuBar_LocationFu\libs\AceLibrary  
10:46.19xlviiError: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/20371'  
10:46.19xlviiError: No such revision 20371  
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10:46.48Kirkburn(cross posted from #wow-lounge) Oooh, btw - the netherdrake mount quest chain has begun in the beta! http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1861109&sid=1&pageNo=1
10:48.27odtanyone know what the druid mana option in archud2 is supposed to do?
10:48.43odti thought it add's another ring that shows druid mana regardless of form
10:48.56odts/add's/adds
10:48.57naeneethought or hoped? :)
10:49.08odtwell, that would be logical, wouldn't it
10:49.15naeneeHm. Yup :)
10:49.29odtit doesn't seem to do anything at all for me
10:50.07naenee:|
10:50.28odtanyone here using archud2 as a druid?
10:50.36CIA-1703nymbia * r20372 10GrindStatus/modules/OutlandNeutral.lua:
10:50.36CIA-17GrindStatus:
10:50.36CIA-17- Added Netherwing faction.
10:51.01Arjorguys can anyone recomend me a good raid frame. i'd really like for it to change color for ppl out of range of healing ?
10:51.58naeneeag_Unitframes has such a feature, but I am not sure if it still works.
10:52.24Elkanogrid?
10:52.31naeneeAh, it does :) Get aUF_RangeCheck with ag_Unitframes :)
10:52.38naeneeAh, if grid does that too, sure :)
10:52.51Arjorkk
10:52.54Arjorthanx guys
10:53.04ElkanoI think it should, at least there is an option
10:54.05naenee:)
10:54.06odtallright, i give up... archud confuses the shit out of me in combat
10:54.53odtso back to the original question: anyone know a way to display druid mana while being in cat/bear form in ag_UF?
10:55.34naeneeHm. I thought your question was about archud, not ag_Unitframs. Or did you just try archud as it was said to have that feature?
10:56.32odtye
10:56.39odtthat's why i tried it out in the first placew
10:56.47naeneeOkidoki
10:56.49Arjorpraid doesn't work anymore right?
10:56.55odtArjor: it does actually
10:57.03odtoh, sorry
10:57.07odtread that as prat
10:57.07naeneeI know of no way to display mana when shapeshifted.
10:57.14odtnaenee: :(
10:57.14naeneePrat works
10:57.16naeneeAh
10:57.21Arjorno no
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10:57.24Arjorperfect raid
10:57.38naeneeOh I see. An update is being worked on :)
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11:01.24sylvanaarnaenee: there was an addon druidbar that did that
11:01.30naeneeYup, I know :)
11:01.32naeneeIt was great
11:01.40odti remember that aswell
11:01.48naeneeIt even integrated with linoleum, a lovely text-only unitframes
11:03.08waffle^_elkbuffbar has no profiles? :(
11:03.16Elkano´no
11:03.32waffle^_how to i set it to char profile? or is that default?
11:03.42Elkanobut change the toc's SavedVariables to SavedVariablesPerCharacter will do
11:03.48waffle^_OK
11:03.52ElkanoEBB isn't ACE2 based
11:04.04xlviiElkano, Ace, not ACE
11:04.10waffle^_ok, makes sense. i always thought the config menu looked odd :>
11:04.22nymbiadont let ck catch you saying 'ACE' ;)
11:04.55naenee:)
11:04.55naeneeAce is ACE
11:04.55naenee:P
11:04.55Gngsk~purl ACE
11:05.00purli guess ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind.  See http://www.wowace.com/
11:05.00waffle^_## SavedVariables: ElkBuffBarOptions  -> ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: ElkBuffBarOptions
11:05.01waffle^_?
11:05.12GngskACE is Awesome Chocolate Eclairs!
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11:07.06evl_<3 Antagonist
11:07.21evl_thanks for leaving out the debug toggle and spamming my screen with crap :/
11:07.21Tekkub"YAOI, My anti-drug"
11:07.26Tekkub*snicker*
11:07.27naeneeA very politically correct answer. Instead of saying 'to keep CPU-usage, memory-sage, and GC churn the lowest possible level', it keeps it 'in mind', not stating that it's more efficient. So anyone using Ace with performance-related problems due to Ace, can not blame Ace :P
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11:08.37naeneeI am aware of your problem citizen. I am keeping it in mind. This does not mean I will change or improve the situation though :)
11:10.26nymbiawell like.. for a feature request that you dont think is very good, it's easier to say 'i'll keep it in mind' than 'ur idea sux' ;)
11:10.39naeneeYup :)
11:11.12naeneeOr 'I will look into it'.
11:11.58waffle^_Blizz likes to say, "We are not currently planning to do 'X' _at this time_"
11:12.35naeneeWhich is a bit more direct
11:12.40waffle^_yeah
11:14.16Soullessaddon action blocked, raidgroupbutton10:setpoint() <in C code> in function SetPoint
11:15.10naeneeHm. I wonder, if I would install 'Assister', and delete the modules I would not use, would using WinAceUpdater to update my addons, re-add the modules I deleted?
11:15.33naeneeI assume the answers is 'Yes', as WinAceUpdater just deletes the dir and extracst what is on wowace.com/files
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11:19.08CIA-1703nymbia * r20373 10MobMitigation/ (MobMitigation-frFR.lua MobMitigation.lua):
11:19.08CIA-17MobMitigation:
11:19.08CIA-17- Updated frFR.
11:19.08CIA-17- Added more debug statements to aid with tracking down french client problems.
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11:20.13CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20374 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Cleaned up a little. Now when you alt invite, the chat edit box will no longer pop up
11:21.17Silviu-Latest Antagonist keeps spamming my chatbox ^^
11:21.23Silviu-And no bars of course :)
11:22.06nymbia~blame Sole
11:22.11purlACTION blames Sole (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
11:22.31naeneeIs there an addon which auto-releases in Battlegrounds?
11:22.36sylvanaaryay, PProvost applied my WAU fixes: Download v1.6-beta1 from http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater/
11:22.39Silviu-Fubar_Honourfu
11:23.53naeneeSilviu-: That was directed at me/
11:23.55naenee*?
11:25.08naeneeI'll check.
11:25.35HjalteSylvanaar: Would it be possible to introduce targetting the player with eg ctrl-click on their name, or is that no longer possible in 2.0?
11:25.39Silviu-naenee yes
11:25.50naeneeYup, it does. Thanks :)
11:25.56Silviu-No problem
11:26.10naeneeNow to figure out if I want BattlegroundFU or HonorFu, they seem to overlap a bit.
11:26.22odtnot really
11:26.25odti use both
11:26.29odtbgfu has timers and stuff
11:26.44Silviu-odt i was just wanting to ask u what it does
11:26.45naeneeHm. I use BattlegroundFu now and used both before the patch. I'll try both then :)
11:26.56Silviu-For timers i use Capping
11:27.03Silviu-Verry verry nice little addon
11:27.05naeneeSame here :)
11:27.06odtjust make sure you end up with 1 instance of glorylib
11:27.18Tekkubmerf
11:27.20Tekkubwhat to do
11:27.23naeneeI like seeing the names/classes of the flag-carriers :)
11:27.52Silviu-Tekkub jump around and dance ? :/
11:27.56Tekkubat work
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11:28.18Silviu-Hmm .. actually, "work" ? *hide*
11:28.21naeneeDo a little dance with only your legs, beneath your desk.
11:28.36naeneeOr make some origami animals :) I have some here on my desk.
11:29.13TekkubI don't have any work to do
11:29.30naeneeThen shred/delete some of the work you did and start over :)
11:29.39sylvanaarHjalte: i think that it maybe be possibnle out of combat - im not sure though.
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11:30.36sylvanaarnaenee: i was using SSPVP
11:30.45Breannehello
11:30.55sylvanaargood morning
11:31.01naeneesylvanaar: I haven't used that in a long while :)
11:31.19sylvanaarnaenee: there's a new release just in the past couple days
11:31.46naeneeAh, well, I'll stick with some Ace addons, as I like having my addons updated using WinAceUpdater.
11:32.20Breanneexcuse me if I go straight at the point... does AceComm works with the current client version? I'm trying a simple addon and self.IsCommRegistered(self.commPrefix, "GUILD") is false just after RegisterComm(self.commPrefix, "GUILD", "CommHandler")
11:32.36naeneeAnd I forgot to turn off auto-join a few times, when heading for, or in, an instance, which was annoying.
11:32.44oxmanWow, How you do /cast [target=targettarget,harm] spell with SetAttribute ?
11:32.46sylvanaari thought about integrating some of the SSPVP chat modifications into Prat
11:32.51Breanneand I'm not receiving any event (I even get disconnected using the WHISPER distribution)
11:32.53oxmanSetAttribute("unit:harm", "targettarget") ?
11:33.29naeneesylvanaar: Hm. Do not make Prat too bloated please. There are too many all-in-one addons already.
11:34.00naeneeThen again, I suppose it could be done in a modular fasion, not loading the BG-bits if the user doesn't want them.
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11:34.09sylvanaarnaenee: prat is an opt out framework, yeah
11:35.19nymbiayou can even delete the files if you REALLY dont like a module ;)
11:35.26^^sunonebag, onebank, oneview suggestion : color the slot border to black, will look much better than the whitegrey thing
11:35.49KirkburnThey're not exactly intensive modules in Prat anyway
11:35.55nymbiayeah
11:36.12naenee^^sun: Agreed.
11:36.12evl_Silviu-: I'm commiting a small fix to Antagonist now so it uses :Debug instead of :Print, i'll say when it's ready
11:36.17odthmm, someone make the onebag bagbreak feature actually start a new row, and not add an empty space
11:36.18sylvanaarseriously, there is nothing about prat that is bloated, most modules are 90% about setting up the aceoptions table
11:36.29naenee:)
11:37.06naeneesylvanaar: It was just me worrying out loud about so many addons seem to add more and more features nowadays :)
11:37.10sylvanaarIt could use a reorganization of its menu
11:37.15naenee*seeming to
11:37.25sylvanaarnaenee: thats normal
11:37.40sylvanaarnaenee: its even got a term 'feature creep'
11:37.47naeneeHm. I wonder if TheLowDown works now.
11:37.51naeneeSee? Creepy.
11:37.53naenee:)
11:38.41Silviu-evl_ ok thank u
11:39.18SoLoRneenee it doesnt
11:39.20sylvanaarI looked at TheLowDown code, but i have never used it
11:39.22SoLoRif you are using prat :>
11:39.43CIA-1703evl * r20375 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - Changed :Print statements to :Debug so normal users won't have to see the spam
11:39.51sylvanaarthey arent compatible i guess
11:39.57SoLoRsylvanaar i integrated lowdown code in to prat today but it gave some errors with with mousescrolling in prat
11:40.12sylvanaaryeah, thats why i was hesitant to add it
11:40.16SoLoRso i just erased everything ;)
11:40.34naeneeI used Prat and TheLowDown together before the patch, but afterwards it has not worked for some reason. That said, I have not tried it in a few days.
11:40.52SoLoRi think it has something to do with hooks
11:40.59sylvanaarcan you integrate is so that its off SoLoR? that way it can be enabled and tested
11:41.04abbat_wHeh
11:41.17abbat_wAntagonist should be extended with some new cooldowns
11:41.33SoLoRsylvanaar sure
11:41.39abbat_wRogues talent with 90% resists of all spells etc
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11:42.06SoLoRneed to go somewhere right now but ill send you patch later
11:42.24sylvanaarSoLoR: thanks
11:42.27haarmlf lvl 70s on bloodmyst :x
11:42.47^^sunabout the alt invite function in prat
11:42.51^^sunis it enabled by default ?
11:42.57^^suncoz it doesn't seems to work :)
11:43.00Tinhaylf kharazan hey >_>
11:43.02Tinhaykey*
11:43.03sylvanaarit is not
11:43.12^^sununder what option is it
11:43.26sylvanaarPlayerNames
11:43.33^^sunthx
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11:44.18haarmTinhay, that needs faction now ?
11:44.31Kinkxsylvanaar - whats new in the WAU 1.6 beta? :o
11:44.41sylvanaarjust 2 bugfixes
11:44.53KinkxAh okie :)
11:44.55sylvanaarthe initial sorting
11:45.26haarmoh sylvanaar, not sure if it's a bug or intentional, colouring of cross realm names in battlegrounds
11:45.31haarmin prat
11:45.48sylvanaarhaarm: what about
11:45.55haarmit wasn't happening :D
11:46.08sylvanaaryeah
11:46.29sylvanaarsupport wasnt added
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11:46.42haarmok, didn't know if it was intentional :)
11:47.23sylvanaaractually, i want to see if i can uses Shadowd's SSPVP stuff
11:48.22Kinkxwhat kind of stuff is that? Not familiar with SSPVP
11:48.44sylvanaarhe does thins [Name-PM:PvE]
11:49.08KinkxAh, yea, that would be pretty cool ^^
11:49.14sylvanaarSSPVP is an awesome mod for organizing all that info
11:49.52Tekkubhttp://www.pvrwire.com/2006/12/12/my-movies-2-2-now-including-barcode-scanning/
11:50.03Tekkubbarcode scannign via a web cam, that's fuckig creative
11:50.19Tekkuband I fuckig hate this laptop keyboard
11:50.27Tekkubstupid qwerty
11:50.30sylvanaarTekkub: im surprised its not Symbol doing it
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11:55.47sylvanaarhere is what reformatting SSPVP does: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3106
12:01.04KinkxNice feature :)
12:03.23sylvanaarI usually just use his mod, for the bg's
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12:10.45naeneeBack, had a meeting.
12:11.06naeneeooh, interesting links *looks*
12:11.23Tekkubbleh
12:11.35naeneeBleh? Are you bored?
12:12.47naeneeThat reformatting the BG bits looks interesting :)
12:13.02Tekkubhttp://www.theonion.com/content/node/56294?utm_source=onion_rss_daily
12:13.05Tekkubthat's good
12:13.07Tekkub#2
12:13.16naeneeLooking
12:13.43naenee"God, I hope the father is black."?
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12:14.17sylvanaarnaenee: he has 2 libraries SSReformat and SSBattleGroundLibrary, seems like good stuff
12:14.18ElkanoI hate the wildleather quests...
12:14.28oxmanwhy MainMenuBarArtFrame:SetAttribute("harmbutton1", "nuke1");MainMenuBarArtFrame:SetAttribute("unit-nuke1", "player") don't work ?
12:15.02naeneesylvanaar: :)
12:17.04sylvanaarnaenee: You could make some really neat addons with those libraries for sure
12:17.27naeneesylvanaar: Well, someone could :)
12:17.43sylvanaarnaenee: yeah, thats what i mean
12:17.46naenee:)
12:17.58naeneeI like clean chats, interfaces.
12:18.24naeneeThough I have four chat windows on my screen at all times :
12:18.26oxmanno one know ?
12:18.34naeneeoxman: I do not.
12:18.47oxmanthe doc is very strange xD
12:19.21Tekkubare there even any branch-specific trade recepies in TBC?
12:19.25TekkubI havn't seen any
12:19.32TekkubI hope they did away with that mess
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12:19.58sylvanaarwhats that code supposed to do
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12:23.03naeneeOh Oh! I finally found the Autobar-lookalike I was looking for. XAD :) But it's not updated :
12:23.05naenee:(
12:23.20Gngsknaenee, have you tried autorack?
12:23.26naeneeNope :)
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12:23.29naeneeSearching for it now :)
12:23.30Gngskgive it a whirl
12:23.39naeneeDoes it support dreamlayout?
12:23.50Gngskyou can find it at gello's wowi portal I'm sure
12:23.53Gngskuh, I don't think so
12:23.59Gngskbut it prolly wouldn't be too hard to do
12:24.05Gngskisn't there a dreamlayout for itemrack?
12:24.19naeneeHm. Itemrack is something akin to wardrobe
12:24.27Gngskyea
12:24.33Gngsksame author wrote an autobar type addon called autorack
12:24.35Tinhayhttp://break.com/index/george_bush_whos_on_first.html <- this is awesome!
12:25.16naeneeAh okay :)
12:25.50naeneeGngsk: It looks interesting :)
12:29.35[Liquidor]Ehm is the Diablo game an RPG game?
12:29.39anenigmahmm.  ora2 (latest from svn) is giving errors 'CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "oRAOMainTankTemplace".  guessing it's because i only did reloadui(), not a full restart, after an svn update
12:31.21JoshBorke[Liquidor]: Diablo is like single player wow?
12:31.59naeneeNo
12:32.25naeneeDiablo is more like an isometric FPS game, with a fantasy setting and RPG elements.
12:32.44JoshBorkeand there you have the proper definition :-D
12:33.24naenee:)
12:34.30Tekkubgood god
12:34.39Tekkublistening to stupid hics
12:34.56TekkubI want to stab my brain with a qtip
12:35.17KirkburnThe music in Diablo is very veyr similar to some of the Outland music
12:35.27KirkburnBlade's Edge is very Diablo-ish
12:35.43KirkburnAwesome nostalgia :D
12:36.08CIA-1703sayclub * r20376 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua: ag_UnitFrames : Update locals koKR(by Next96)
12:37.47JoshBorkewhere's my teksupport! rargh!
12:39.25sylvanaar"this calls for an angry letter"
12:41.16Tekkubwhat the hell are you people smoking lately?
12:41.23TekkubtS has been updated for days
12:41.30JoshBorkei need an LoD for it
12:41.44JoshBorkeace should have a /loadaddon command :_/
12:41.50Tekkubit does
12:42.08JoshBorkeoh, it does...
12:42.09JoshBorke:_D
12:43.06JoshBorkeand this is why i don't like LoD :-D i'm too stupid to figure it out
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12:44.15Tekkubnot my fault
12:44.23JoshBorkenever said it was :-)
12:47.22oxmanwhy MainMenuBarArtFrame:SetAttribute("harmbutton1", "nuke1");MainMenuBarArtFrame:SetAttribute("unit-nuke1", "player") don't work ?
12:47.43JoshBorkeis the ArtFrame a button? o.O
12:47.52sylvanaarTekkub: how can i add TLD functionality to Prat? Can you give me the overveiew of what each of the 2 code sections are meant to do?
12:48.11Tekkuboro?
12:48.16Tekkubit should be fairly simple
12:48.20sylvanaarTekkub: i understand at a high-level
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12:48.30Mikmahttp://www.hilavitkutin.com/2006/12/11/kannianimaatio-sammuneella/ <- in finnish but you'll get the idea when you look the video
12:48.31oxmanindeed it can be the problem JoshBorke, thanks
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12:48.55Tekkubgrab the latest off WoWI though, it's more up to date
12:49.13Tekkuball it does is hook the scroll functions...
12:49.30Tekkuband start/restart a delay timer every time one is called
12:49.49Tekkubthen that timer starts a second timer that scrolls one line at a time till it hits the bottom
12:50.03MoonWolfMikma, that was awesome.
12:50.16MikmaMoonWolf: yeah :)
12:50.40sylvanaarTekkub: yeah, that bit timer starting timer, i wanted to understand why you did that so when i move it i dont break it
12:51.13Tekkubyea, delay so that the frame doesn't instantly scroll down
12:51.17oxmanJosh_Borke don't work better with ActionButton1
12:51.20Tekkubsecond timer is for "effect"
12:51.28Tekkubinstead of just scrolling to bottom
12:51.42sylvanaarit scrolls line by line
12:52.34sylvanaarok, thats what it looked like when i read it. Also, did it scroll per chat frame or all frames at once
12:53.19Tekkubper frame
12:53.32Tekkubit hook each frame seperatly
12:53.37Tekkubmakes timers for each
12:53.46Soullesswhats the name of the other dev channel? wow-isomeething?
12:54.01sylvanaarok, and what reset the timer
12:54.13MoonWolfSoulless, #wowi-lounge
12:54.20SoullessMoonWolf: ty
12:55.07naeneeWoo, time to head home and play some WoW :) Well, tinker with addons, as that's almost more enjoyable :)
12:55.09naenee*poof*
12:55.17naenee*pokes neenee* Wake up!
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12:55.52neeneeYea yea, just cycle home already you schizo.
12:55.59naeneeOki.
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12:57.50sylvanaarTekkub: i see, those strings at the top are the function names that you are hooking, so calling those would reset the countdown
12:58.15Tekkubsee you're figgering it out
12:58.30Health*theehee*
12:58.55sylvanaarTekkub: mostly double-checking, i dont want to spend 2 days fixing bugs
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12:59.53hastekergoth: it's on the SVN as oDEPS
13:00.40HealthSounds scary!
13:00.45HealthAre you scary haste!?
13:01.09hasteThink so
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13:02.46JoshBorkehaste!
13:02.57JoshBorkefix oCB!
13:03.09hasteWell fuck you :)
13:03.12JoshBorkeit's broken for channeling :-P
13:03.18hasteI finally have some free time now
13:03.28hasteonly one exam left, and that's on monday
13:03.32JoshBorkeyou call UnitCastingInfo instead of UnitChannelInfo
13:03.53hasteYou know, I don't have a single character which uses channeling spells :D
13:04.02hasteIt's all drycode
13:04.11JoshBorkewant me to fix it up for you?
13:04.17tiggwould it be possible to add somem <GEM...>-Spam blocker to prat?
13:04.20hasteyou can send me a diff :D
13:04.29JoshBorkecan do
13:04.35JoshBorketime for work, i'll look at it there
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13:06.20Gngskanyone notice msbt not showing wand damage?
13:07.42KinkxAre you using MSBT 4.01? I think 4.01 was suppose to fix that
13:08.10Gngskyea, still using 4.0
13:08.14GngskI'll update real swiftly
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13:09.35Necrathexis there an addon that allows you to move the bags windows?
13:14.17Josh_Borkemorning!
13:14.27hastehello
13:15.01Josh_Borkehaste: bandage yourself ;-)
13:15.15hastethat works
13:15.27oxmanX:SetAttribute("harmbutton1", "harm1");X:SetAttribute("unit-harm1", "player");X:SetAttribute("spell-harm1", "Renew") work when X = aUFtarget, but not when X = ActionButton1. Do you know why ?
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13:15.49Josh_Borkedo the action buttons inherit the securebutton template?
13:15.59oxmanit seems to be :D
13:16.02oxmanI dunno ;'p
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13:17.00oxmanit seems not, but how i can change that ? ^^
13:17.07Josh_Borkeoxman: it doesn't appear that they inherit (according to the ActionButtonTemplate)
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13:17.10Josh_Borkeuse a macro
13:17.23oxmanI want make an addon for all bars, not macro
13:17.24oxman:p
13:17.34Josh_Borkecreate your own buttons
13:17.43oxmanI want my addon work with default bar
13:18.44Josh_Borkeoxman: i really don't think you can.  that's why bartender3 creates its own buttons
13:19.01oxmanI think there is an answer
13:19.10oxmanbecause you can do what I want in maccro ^^
13:19.13oxman:p
13:19.46Josh_Borkea macro ~= attribute changing
13:20.02SoLoRsylvanaar here?
13:20.21CIA-1703jncl * r20377 10Skinner/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned vBagnon; Included a FuBar plugin; Standardised many option descriptions
13:21.23neeneeHello again
13:22.06oxmanJosh_Borke but what i want, i can do in maccro ;)
13:22.06Josh_Borkethen do in macros instead of an addon?
13:22.06oxman<PROTECTED>
13:22.06oxmanI have already explain why I don't want.
13:22.07Josh_Borkecan't macros live on all bars?
13:22.23oxmanI dunno, and it don't interest me, I don't want use macro
13:22.42Josh_Borkewell, i'm almost positive that you cannot set attributes on the blizzard action buttons
13:22.54Josh_Borkebut there are smarter people than me that should know the definite answer
13:23.10oxmanAnd I think its a stupid thing, I'll kick the ass of slouken xD
13:23.15oxmanOr maybe its a mistake of him :)
13:23.44Josh_Borkethe blizzard buttons are already secure so there is no reason to make them inherit from the secure template, is there?  everything that you can do with attributes should be doable with macros
13:24.02Josh_Borkethat being said, i wish they inherited also :-)
13:24.02oxmanYes but in ActionButton it use SetAttribute
13:24.11oxmanso I think it inherit from all secure templates
13:24.12oxman:)
13:24.42oxmanline 83 in ActionButton.lua
13:24.48Josh_Borkeyea, i see it, hm
13:24.49oxman:SetAttribute("type", "action")
13:24.53oxmanetc..
13:25.28Tekkubgod
13:25.33Tekkubfuckign southerners
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13:25.38Josh_Borkeo.O
13:25.44CIA-1703mikma * r20378 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc libs/): Bartender3: adding missing AceHook in libs and .toc
13:25.48Tekkubit gets foggy out and suddenly the heat's on 80deg+ here
13:26.04MassaimahAfternoon
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13:26.39phyberif I'm making a dewdrop menu using dd:AddLine(), and then do an :InjectAceOptionsTable() at the end of it, does the injected table just add itself onto the end of what I've already created?
13:26.53sylvanaarSoLoR: yeah
13:28.17sylvanaartigg: maybe, but but thats a touchy subject
13:28.56oxmancan you post on USA board Josh_Borke ?
13:29.00SoLoRsylvanaar private ;)
13:29.04Icerothcan anyone recommend me a simple addon that would show the 'unit price' for items in AH? for example, if a stack of 10 costs 1g, it would show that one item costs 10s
13:29.06Josh_Borkeyea
13:29.21oxmanmaybe you can ask Slouken about that Josh_Borke
13:29.26Mikmaoh god damn
13:29.48Josh_Borkemikma should know!
13:30.38CIA-1703mikma * r20379 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc Core.lua libs/): Bartender3: AceHook-2.0 to 2.1, also added it to be loaded
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13:30.58Necrathexis there a reason why every ace addon has its own libs directory?
13:31.10oxmanits more proper ? :)
13:31.15Josh_BorkeNecrathex: that's where embedded libs are usually put
13:31.15HealthSo that they can be downloaded seperatly?
13:31.35Necrathexcan't i just put all libs in one directory and install the addons without them?
13:31.42Josh_Borkelol
13:31.51HealthYes, there is even an addon that does just that!
13:32.02neeneeBut why would you want to?
13:32.10neeneeThere's no benefit
13:32.14HealthTo speed up the initial load time? :)
13:32.27Necrathexbecause i'm downloading the same libs 10 times when updating
13:32.30Josh_Borkeyes, the INITIAL load time only
13:32.45TainIf you do it just don't ever come asking for support from anyone as people are constantly breaking things by doing it.
13:32.55neeneeWell, I doubt you're on dialup Necrathex :)
13:33.01TainBut yes it will work.
13:33.18Necrathexhm, so it's not a good idea :p
13:33.31TainThe whole idea of using the libs inside of each addon is to not have to rely on external dependancies (which people bitch all to high hell about for a year+).
13:33.34odtis it possible to use [agcurrenthp] [agpercenthp] together, but not have DEAD DEAD display twice?
13:33.42Necrathexso i just tell wau to download with externals
13:33.53TainSo now people are complaining about having everything you need included with each addon.
13:33.56NecrathexTain: ok lol
13:34.20oxmanwhat do you think about a topic on this problem Josh_Borke ?
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13:34.27Mikmaoh god damn again
13:34.34Mikmai should not touch other peoples code haha
13:34.40Josh_Borkeoxman: i don't think it's that big of a deal
13:34.41Health*hehe*
13:34.56kenlyricdoesn't it also allow some mods to not necessarily update their libs in case something causes an error in their mod?
13:34.59CIA-1703jncl * r20380 10Skinner/: Skinner: Fixed externals :(
13:35.02oxman:|
13:35.05Josh_BorkeMikma: did you/nev ever ask slouken why you can't setattribute the blizzard buttons?
13:35.08Gngsk:[
13:35.18MikmaJosh_Borke: don't know
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13:35.58HjalteNevcairiel: Great job on bartender3! <3
13:36.04oxmanyou can set some attribute Josh_Borke :p
13:36.12oxmanlike "SetAttribute("unit2", "player")"
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13:36.32TainBartender3 ate all my cereal and left stains on my couch
13:36.37Josh_Borkeare you sure what you're doing is correct based on the attributes it already has?
13:36.59oxmanthere is not attribute "unit2" by default
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13:37.10oxmantry /print ActionButton1:GetAttribute("unit2")
13:37.25Josh_Borkei'm not in game and won't be for another week ;-)
13:37.36IcerothMikma, Bartender3\Core.lua:2: unexpected symbol near ','
13:38.03Josh_Borkelol mikma, way to fubar bartender3 ;-)
13:38.11MikmaIceroth: that's why i'm cursing out loud
13:38.12Iceroth<PROTECTED>
13:38.17Mikmaalso i have a typo in .toc
13:38.27Mikmafixing them now and testing before new commit
13:38.32Icerothfix it already, my ui is blown up >.<
13:38.56MikmaIceroth: same here that's why i started to fix it
13:38.58Josh_Borke<3 bleeding edge
13:39.08Icerothbleeding edge makes me bleed
13:39.09Josh_Borkeyou mean you didn't test before committing? o.O
13:39.35CIA-1703mikma * r20381 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc Core.lua): Bartender3: Mikma flees from nevcairiel. AceHook should work now properly
13:39.59Mikmano i didn't, because the externals were not in BT3 that was needed
13:40.08Mikmaafter commit and checkout they are in :)
13:40.40kenlyricusing wau there's really no other option than to be bleeding edge, is there?
13:40.54Josh_Borkeyes, don't use WAU
13:41.19kenlyricbut I'm so laaaazy.
13:41.22oxmanI confirm Josh_Borke, unit2 attribute don't exist by default
13:41.31TainThat's ok kenlyric, so are the authors!  :D
13:41.51Josh_Borkeoxman: i believe you.  i don't have any experience with secure buttons
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13:45.37Icerothhow does the skinner middle frame work?
13:45.40oxmanAnd I think its not ap roblem of experience Josh_Borke :D
13:47.03tiggsylvanaar: touchy it might be, but it would be nice ;)
13:47.57CIA-1703phyber * r20382 10Fence/modules/Fence_Bookmarks.lua:
13:47.57CIA-17Fence:
13:47.57CIA-17- Fence_Bookmark: Adds a menu for your favourite AH searches.
13:47.57CIA-17- Not yet complete.
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13:51.36abbat_w=)
13:51.51abbat_wbored...
13:52.03yacooblog off ;)
13:52.05abbat_wMaybe it's right time to talk with Mikma about discord?... )
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13:52.19Grollanyone got any idea why skinner aint saving my settings? it's just on some stuff like editbox, tooltip and one more spot i forgot
13:52.38Mikmaabbat_w: or try what does Beratta 9mm do to your head
13:52.49abbat_w;)
13:52.54yacoobwhat's Mikma doing with discord?
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13:53.02abbat_wMikma, bloody russian can't buy weapon ;)
13:53.10abbat_wyacoob, he hate it ;)
13:53.13Mikmawell robe someone
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13:53.18Mikmathat's what russians are good at
13:53.21yacoobah, so just casual stomping?
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13:53.51abbat_wyep
13:54.42CIA-1703sylvanaar * r20383 10Prat/modules/Scroll.lua: Prat: Support for TheLowDown. Thanks to SoLoR for doing the integration work.
13:54.53Garoun|Loupanacool, they added 2 more sec to mangle
13:54.55Healththelowdown?
13:55.06Bveranyone know what SecureUnitWatchFrame is? It was raping my mem usage last night
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13:55.16haarmvhaarr, gonna try and get you some logs from Magtheridon :)
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13:56.30IcerothGaroun|Loupana, bear or cat or both?
13:57.27sylvanaartigg: can you be more specific then, i doing know if i understand
13:58.16tiggwell this GEM addon uses channel messages to distribute stuff, it uses "normal" channels
13:59.05tiggso if I am in a channel and some other people in this chan use it as GEM-Channel I get to see those GEM-Messages
13:59.20tiggunless I also install GEM
13:59.28Garoun|Loupanaboth
13:59.36Garoun|Loupanait's at 12 sec now
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14:00.08Icerothnice
14:00.18phreakyi HATE blizzard for destroying ConsoleMage ;((
14:00.19Garoun|Loupanaonly thing is, that usually means they nerfed something else
14:00.19Iceroththough the bear hp nerf hurts :'(
14:00.35tiggso it would be nice to have a small filter addon that filters chat messages beginning with <GEM.*>
14:00.40Hockdoes anyone have any henge screenshots?  i hear it's like necrosis but for all classes.
14:00.41sylvanaartigg: i see, and GEM doesnt have an updated version that uses the ADDON channel?
14:00.44Garoun|Loupanawhat was teh hp nerf?
14:01.01tiggno, it hasn't
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14:01.21tiggwasn't this addon-channel raid-specific?
14:01.31Hockhow are people coping with the loss of detox / decursive?
14:01.44Garoun|LoupanaI think the addon channel was for any data/chat parsing of mods
14:01.52tiggGEM is used out-of-raid as a guild calendar
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14:02.28Josh_BorkeHock: they aren't! it's the end of the world!
14:02.32Hocklol
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14:02.46sylvanaarthe addon channel has a GUILD channel in it
14:02.58Garoun|Loupanayeah, I use to use it tigg :)
14:02.58Hockwell, whereas we had bwl on a 3 hour clear before ... last night we wiped 3 times on chromaggus.
14:03.02Josh_Borkesylvanaar: i believe GEM supports cross-guild, that's why it uses a channel
14:03.09GngskHock, /cast [target=mouseover] Remove Lesser Curse
14:03.09Garoun|LoupanaI'm pretty sure you can use that channel outside of raid also
14:03.15sylvanaarGUILD, RAID, PARTY (maybe BATTLEGROUND)
14:03.21Josh_BorkeHock: tell people who to prioritize
14:03.49Garoun|Loupanawhat Josh said, you need to actually assign people rolls for a change
14:03.57Garoun|Loupanarather then spamming one button :)
14:04.03Hockyeah, i know all that ... the change in play style (and perhaps more importantly the fact that they have to actually pay attention) will take a bit of time
14:04.06MassaimahOr people can simply start thinking by themselves?
14:04.17Garoun|Loupanagive each person a set of groups/people to decurse and you'll be fine
14:04.34Josh_Borkemouse-over macro or clicking works well
14:04.36Hockbut we LIKE button mash spamming
14:04.39tiggsylvanaar: ah, i think GEM is meant for cross-guild use, so it won't be converted
14:04.47Hock=D
14:05.03tiggevil thing this GEM
14:05.04Josh_BorkeHock: use the mouseover macro.  button mashing+hovering = win
14:05.22Hockyeah.  i'll probably just continue to use clique myself.
14:05.30sylvanaartigg: and it reuses existing chat channels, doesnt make its own?
14:06.06Garoun|Loupanawriting for my own use: Mangle rank 2: cat-37e/180%/216/25% over 10, bear-15r/156%/164/25% over 10
14:06.15haarm12/13 14:01:24.171  Hellfire Warder hits Bisounours for 5248. (crushing)
14:06.19haarmmagtheridon trash :(
14:06.25haarmon our tank
14:06.32sylvanaarso chat and data are muxed
14:06.51Hockhas anyone ever seen a spreadsheet that shows base stats for all races / classes?
14:07.23tiggwell, you can setup a custom channel for GEM, but as you have to join it, and the number of concurrent chans is limited people tend to use chans for both GEM and communication
14:07.25Garoun|Loupanathere's one on most every website that has the races/classes listed
14:07.26Hockcurious as to what it will be like up through the 60's
14:08.05Hocknot like level 1 stats, i mean like what int, sta, spi, agi are for all races, classes, at all levels ... so they can be graphed
14:08.26deltronhaarm: ouch
14:08.32Garoun|LoupanaIceroth: I just noticed somethign else about mangle
14:08.55Garoun|Loupanathey upped it 2secs AND increased the bleed bonus by 5% (25-> 30)
14:08.55Icerothhmm?
14:09.03Icerothoh, nice
14:09.13Icerothand it still gives the 30% to shred too?
14:09.25Hocki had a 5300 crit heal last night and i'm not even specced down too far into holy on my priest.
14:09.31MassaimahGEM creates a default channel on first launch. If you keep using that one you get all possible events people will broadcast. Else you configure a specific guildGEM channel to see only events your guild organizes. In both cases hide the channels as it will spam your chatbox.
14:09.33Garoun|Loupanayes
14:09.35sylvanaartigg: you are correct, a filtering module in prat would be useful, but to do it generically would take some time. Just making a fix for GEM would open the door to other such things.
14:09.44Garoun|Loupanathe cat form Rank 1 is also now 192% normal dmg
14:10.02Garoun|Loupanawhereas it's 180% on live 2.0.1
14:10.42Icerothnice nice, moar dmg for cat :)
14:10.54Garoun|Loupanawhat was Bear form originallys
14:10.58Garoun|Loupana-ys
14:11.01Icerothcat is still quite a roadkill in pvp, useful only for the opener
14:11.09tiggsylvanaar: well, I dont see any way to fix this GEM thing so that users without GEM installed don't see the spam
14:11.16Garoun|Loupanait's at 25% on beta right now
14:11.23CIA-1703moonsorrow * r20384 10GotWood/views/CandyBarView.lua:
14:11.23CIA-17GotWood:
14:11.23CIA-17- changed width step to 5
14:11.59Icerothbtw, does rip tick every 2s or 3s?
14:12.31Garoun|Loupana122+agi, 25%
14:12.32sylvanaartigg: its a GEM issue really. thats what im getting at. If we add a feature to Prat, i want it to be for Prat first and foremost
14:12.35Garoun|Loupanaone sec, loading up live :P
14:12.52Massaimah12«11tigg12» Just curious but can't there be channel restriction added to GEM? say all default WoW channels are no go for the addon?
14:13.07deltronmein eyes
14:13.22Garoun|Loupanaactually Iceroth I'm not sure if there really is a nerf to bear form
14:13.30Garoun|Loupanathey actually made it so it'll scale now
14:13.53Icerothwell scales yea but 40 > 25
14:13.57deltronheh unicode stuff breaks my terminal :(
14:13.57tiggMassaimah: well actually it is no default channel that gets spammed, some mates in my raid-group use it, so it is just limited to our custom-raid-channel
14:14.02Garoun|Loupanait's +25%  health on beta, 1240 on live
14:14.06Garoun|Loupanait's not a percent
14:14.11Garoun|Loupanait's a fixed number
14:14.12Icerothi actually lose some hp with my current stam now with the change
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14:15.06Tekkubman, people are sure fucked in the head
14:15.08Tekkubhttp://blog.wired.com/biotech/2006/12/loon_devil_food.html
14:15.13tiggsylvanaar: ok, I can understand your concerns about that
14:15.26Massaimah12«11tigg12» Best thing then is to ask them to create a separate window.
14:15.39Massaimahchannel i mean
14:16.00TainSoy is making kids gay.
14:16.10Garoun|LoupanaIce: do you use the fury/pounce/mangle/rake/rip combo for starters in cat form?
14:16.15tiggMassaimah: yep, but due to limitations on concurrent chans this is not possible
14:16.19kenlyricwe need more gay kids.
14:16.38Icerothyea but i usually skip the fury part, too lazy :)
14:16.46Massaimah12«11tigg12» they already use all their possible channels?
14:16.54TainYeah but did you see how that soy was dressed?  It was asking for it.
14:16.55Garoun|Loupanathat combot alone can chop off a ton of health on the target
14:16.59Garoun|Loupana-t
14:17.01IcerothMassaimah, you really need to fix your client :p
14:17.11waffle^_Has anyone here sent their witchhunt messages to MSBT4, and then seperated those out into a new scroll area?
14:17.13TainWho's ?tigg?
14:17.22tiggMassaimah: some of them, yes
14:17.27Icerothyeah i've noticed, they are down to 50% with just that most of the time
14:17.28deltronTekkub: lol
14:17.29Massaimahk
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14:17.44Garoun|LoupanaI killed a hunter with just bleed for his last 15% health 2 days ago
14:17.47Garoun|Loupana:P
14:17.50Icerothwaffle^_, only to the default message frame
14:18.01Icerothif you know how to get them to separate frame, do tell :)
14:18.03Garoun|Loupanahe tried to walk me onto his trap, so I just stood there and watched hm die
14:18.10waffle^_Iceroth: yeah. that's what i'm trying to figure out.
14:18.46Massaimahiceroth in what way?
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14:19.06Icerothannoying colors
14:19.25Massaimahoh sorry... invision standards... i'll deactivate em.
14:19.29Kirkburn|afkTekkub, that article makes me want to hit someone
14:19.51Tekkubit makes me laugh
14:19.52Kirkburn|afkWell, Jim Rutz, mainly
14:20.07Tekkubto think that not only is someone crazy enough to think that shit up
14:20.20Tekkubbut believes it so much he has to share it with the world
14:20.30Massaimahlol
14:20.40Kirkburn|afkYeah :/
14:20.47abbat_wbtw
14:21.07abbat_wtonight i found color picker with copy/paste buttons. on wowace btw ;)
14:21.15Kirkburn|afk(side note: there is no "infertility epidemic", it's pretty much an urban myth)
14:21.56kenlyricbabies suck, that's all.
14:22.32abbat_wbut it's static frame, can't be moved ;(
14:22.35Garoun|Loupanathat link is just um, yeah, tek :P
14:22.45Tekkubsoy is evil
14:22.49TekkubI knew it was
14:23.04Tekkubbut the scrawny fucks that live off it usually can't put up a fight
14:23.20Garoun|LoupanaI have no problem with soy, I just don't want it pretending to be beef like turkey does
14:23.23Garoun|Loupanagag :)
14:23.49Tekkubground turkey is better'n ground beef in lotsa stuff
14:24.00Tekkubnot burgers... buffalo makes the best burgers
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14:24.09kenlyricyou know that vegan soy taco meat tastes exactly like taco bell meat? true story.
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14:24.31Garoun|Loupanawell taco bell meat was delivered to the world directly from hell :P
14:24.35Garoun|Loupanait's still good though
14:24.46kenlyricall the good things are evil.
14:24.48Tekkubyou know I don't eat taco bell cause I like to eat things that actually resemble meat
14:25.20SyKDunno if this is already known, but i got an error with the current bartender3 rev
14:26.09Kirkburn|afkSyK, Mikma just fixed a bug with it
14:26.18Kirkburn|afkUpdate again :)
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14:27.06Deviadwe
14:27.10Deviadhello
14:27.19DeviadIs there any news about the new cryolysis?
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14:27.29DeviadI'm waiting for it so bad :P
14:27.38phyberhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2077439385682384318&q=leeroy
14:28.09SyKBartender Rev 20384 throws error: Library "AceHook-2.1" does not exist
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14:31.44Gngskyou mean r20381?
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14:32.04vhaarrhaarm: excellent
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14:33.08SyKgngsk: nope... svn is at 20384 ...
14:33.10Datuxhello
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14:34.13Gngsk20384 was a GotWood commit according to CIA
14:35.17Datuxdo you find normal that a 90% ace addon based UI takes 35MB and more of memory?
14:35.42yacoobDatux, it depends, but 35 is not much
14:35.43Kirkburn|afkIn any case, SyK - you're missing a lib so it seems
14:35.43haarmvhaarr, not excellent
14:35.48haarmthe group is retarded
14:35.50Sykgaffel?
14:35.51yacoobalso, force a GC and check afterwards
14:36.02Datuxyes i have to
14:36.08haarmwe wont make it past the first trash mobs
14:36.12Datuxunless i encounter some lags
14:36.17yacoobalso, check increase speed
14:36.33Datuxi went to 46MB
14:36.44abbat_wmy aced ui have 20-22mb
14:36.49Kirkburn|afkSyK and Sykgaffel, how confusing
14:36.49vhaarrhaarm: ^^
14:36.54abbat_wand about 25-27 in raids
14:36.54Datuxincrease speed goes high right after boot
14:37.08Datuxwhen i open addon windows
14:37.15abbat_wafter i remove discrod i free about 10-12mb
14:37.28Kirkburn|afkomg discord \o/
14:37.29Datuxright after that load i do a GC
14:37.32haarmvhaarr, I just went to summon someone at the meeting stone, and it said the target does not meet the level requirements, which is when I noticed half the group isn't even 70
14:37.40Datuxbut it's still around 30MB
14:37.46vhaarrhaarm: hehe
14:37.47Kirkburn|afkSyK, gonna update and have a look myself
14:37.52Datuxi don't have that much addons
14:37.53haarm20 mins to buff after a wipe, 5 offline, they wont listen to tactics and just want to zerg
14:37.53yacoobDatux, the problem with ace2 are libs, which get loaded many times, and are purged on first GC.
14:38.06Datuxmmmh ok
14:38.11yacoobso basically, you need to see what is the minimum footprint, and how fast does it increase
14:38.17yacoobthere are three risks
14:38.23yacoob1/ you run out of memory ;)
14:38.23haarmbtw, first trash mobs are locks, they do unstable affliction + random rain of fire, and shadow bolt volley :D
14:38.36yacoob2/ you trigger gc, which can freeze your client for a moment
14:38.40Datuxmust be a big increase :D
14:39.09yacoob3/ some addon is leaking/misbehaving, and thus causes 1/
14:39.10Josh_Borkeyacoob: memory freeze due to GC shouldn't be so large anymore
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14:39.25Datuxyacoob, that was what i thought
14:39.25yacoobJosh_Borke, keyword being "shouldn't" :D
14:39.26Kirkburn|afkSyK, looks fine to me - do you use embedded libs?
14:39.28Datuxthe leak
14:39.37Datuxmaybe you want me to show you my addon list?
14:39.41SyK@Kirk: yea .. fixed it
14:39.48Kirkburn|afkAwesome
14:39.49Datuxmaybe you know one that is known to leak
14:39.51yacoobDatux, get tekSupport, and you can peek at the top fatso list
14:39.57SyKu need to copy the hook2.1 from the ace2 rev
14:40.00Datux??
14:40.08yacoobDatux, I doubt it, I haven't been playing since two months
14:40.14Datuxoh ok :)
14:40.14Kirkburn|afkWas ist das "tekSupporten"?
14:40.37yacoobKirkburn|afk, eine gizmo nicht fur fingerpoken
14:40.39Josh_BorkeKirkburn|afk: :-P
14:40.41Kirkburn|afklol
14:41.11phreakyhttp://img.7chan.org/gif/src/1164906825863187.gif
14:41.13phreakypwned
14:41.18Boobies4uguys
14:41.25Kirkburn|afk7chan?
14:41.27neeneeHm. I wish there was a layout repository for ag_UnitFrames, I'd be interested in what others are using and want to try everything :)
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14:41.56Boobies4uwhen i try to put portratin on the Player frame on AG UF, its not showing, but it shows if i put portrait on the Target frame, why is this?
14:42.07Tekkubit's 3 better than 4chan
14:42.11Kirkburn|afkI'm sorry, your name is too distracting
14:42.53Datuxbut hey
14:43.03Datuxis there really Boobies4us??
14:43.23yacoobnot only for us, for everyone!
14:43.31Datuxdamn
14:43.33Boobies4uwhat?
14:43.38Boobies4uwhen i try to put portratin on the Player frame on AG UF, its not showing, but it shows if i put portrait on the Target frame, why is this?
14:43.40Datux^^
14:43.47neeneeIs there a way to group ag_Unitframes?
14:43.47Boobies4ui dont get portrait on the Player frame
14:43.55yacoobsounds like a bug
14:43.55KirkburnBewbs, it may depend on your layout choice
14:43.56Boobies4uit just doesent show up
14:44.04Icerothwaffle^_, seems like WH would have to provide the correct scroll area name for MSBT
14:44.04DatuxBoobies4u, i don't have any portraits at all
14:44.09yacoobor portret-aware-less layout ;)
14:44.23Datuxbut i don't care cause i'm not enabling target and player frames :)
14:44.46KirkburnNot all layouts support portraits iirc
14:45.02Mikmagod damn
14:45.09Iceroth[Ammo], you around?
14:45.14Datuxabbat_w, could you give me your addon list please?? to see what you're using that is onli 20megs
14:45.15Mikmaaguf semicrashes my game when someone join party in combat or so
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14:45.31Josh_Borkedon't use lootlink!
14:45.33CIA-1703solor * r20385 10Prat/modules/Scroll.lua: Prat: TheLowDown is using SecureHook now
14:45.37abbat_wDatux, i'm at work now
14:45.43Datuxoh ok
14:45.48Kirkburnyacoob, you're sooooooo unoriginal
14:45.53neeneeSoLoR: does that mean TheLowDown works with Prat again?
14:45.59sylvanaarYou know what I really need in aguf, is when i use clique, i have no way to access the blizzard menus
14:46.01Datuxhehe you need distant access :)
14:46.02yacoobKirkburn, you face wrath, you know it.
14:46.06sylvanaarneenee: it is embedded in prat
14:46.10KirkburnI knows it.
14:46.15Gngsksylvanaar, that's easy to get
14:46.16Datuxabbat_w, you want me to show you mine?
14:46.19Boobies4uyes
14:46.21Datuxor you don't give a fuck
14:46.22neeneesylvanaar: Ah, nice :)
14:46.29KirkburnDatux, what are you offering to show him!?
14:46.34Boobies4uit was the layout thing
14:46.37Boobies4ugot portrait now
14:46.39kenlyriccan we all see?
14:46.40CIA-1703usz * r20386 10MD5Lib/ (MD5-1.0/MD5-1.0.lua MD5Lib.toc):
14:46.40CIA-17MD5Lib
14:46.40CIA-17- Updated for 20000
14:46.40CIA-17- Renamed internal library to MDFive
14:46.41sylvanaarGngsk: how
14:46.44KirkburnAwesome boobies
14:46.45Datuxmy addon list
14:46.50Datuxnothing sexy indeed :p
14:46.58abbat_wDatux, sure
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14:47.10sylvanaarGngsk: if i hold down alt (the bypass key for clique) i get the aguf menu
14:47.13yacoobon the other hand, portraits are one of those oh so redundant things to have...
14:47.18Grinedamn I hate updating mods and losing my own modifications ;)
14:47.19Gngsksylvanaar, gimmie a sec to dig it up
14:47.21Kirkburnuh, I meant "Awesome, Boobies4u"
14:47.51Hjaltesylvanaar: Bind the menu to a button combination within Clique :)
14:47.57KilrooDoes anyone here remember the problem where AUF and AUF-based frames would not update target HP correctly in combat (at least for rogues) and then would suddenly update correctly when out of combat (such as after a gouge)...and can any such person tell me whether this has been fixed yet?
14:48.18KilrooI do not know why I care, since I still can't afford to reactivate my account...I guess I'm just cur'us
14:48.23sylvanaarthats not an option that i am aware of
14:48.25KirkburnKilroo, how long ago was this problem?
14:48.32KilrooUm.
14:48.45KilrooProbably almost a year.
14:48.56KirkburnUhm, yes. Yes it is fixed.
14:49.18KilrooSweet. :-)
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14:49.37KirkburnWell, if it isn't I'll eat my foot :)
14:49.52HjalteSylvanaar: Clique -> Custom -> Show Menu
14:49.52CIA-1703usz * r20387 10TEALib/ (TEA-1.0/TEA-1.0.lua TEALib.toc):
14:49.52CIA-17TEALib
14:49.52CIA-17- Updated for 20000
14:49.54yacoobshall we start cooking?
14:50.00haarmMikma, Spirit of Redemption is being treated as a paging stance, and messing up my action bars when I die ;)
14:50.03sylvanaarHjalte: let me look again...maybe i am blind
14:50.06KilrooI keep thinking maybe I could afford to reactivate for just one month...
14:50.23Mikmahaarm: :)
14:50.24KilrooNot to PLAY, just to try out all the new Ace stuff since I ran out of moolah.
14:50.36KirkburnKilroo, isn't that a bit ... odd?
14:50.37haarmbut it's not listed under stances, intentional or bug?
14:50.41KilrooYes.
14:51.06KilrooBut I honestly enjoyed messing around with addons as much as anything else besides instance runs.
14:51.08KirkburnAs long as you realise that ^^
14:52.36kenlyricI'm not sure "a bit" describes the oddness.
14:52.54Mikmahaarm: i think it's blizz bug actually
14:52.57sylvanaarHjalte: nope, i dont have those options
14:52.59Josh_Borkemy account is mainly kept active so i can develop mods...
14:53.19sylvanaarim going to make sure im updated
14:53.22HjalteSylvanaar: Hmm? What about "Unit Menu"?
14:53.24Gngsksylvanaar, it used to be Clique:UnitMenu() but I guess that's been removed with 2.0
14:53.37Josh_Borkedid you try right-clicking on the custom function editbox?
14:53.48CIA-1703usz * r20388 10PrivateChat/ (Core.lua PrivateChat.toc):
14:53.49CIA-17PrivateChat
14:53.49CIA-17- Updated for 20000
14:54.43sylvanaarhold down ALT, bypasses clique - but the click ends up on agUF's frame
14:54.52sylvanaarhow do i bypass agUF
14:55.21HjalteSylvanaar: If you're nice, you'll help me try and convince the author to allow turning off the 'menu' on ctrl and alt + right click ;)
14:55.34Xelarhmm any way to get the circel look on bartender3 ?
14:55.37Xelarlike bartender2 had
14:55.46Gngsksylvanaar, check this thread out http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7106&page=2&pp=10&highlight=Clique+Unit+Menu
14:55.54HjalteXelar: Get Cycircled from wowace.com/files
14:56.10[CyberToast]man i wanna be at the top of the list too
14:56.18[CyberToast]i feel better now
14:56.25XelarHjalte thx
14:56.29Xelaril trye that ;D
14:57.07HjalteXelar: Remember to change the style to default or zoomed on all your bars. Dreamlayout and circle-buttons dont match.
14:57.08Boobies4uguys, where the hell has tbe hotkey configuration gone for bartender3?
14:57.16Boobies4ui cant set a hotkey for keys on a bar anymore
14:57.22Boobies4ui dont see that option in the menu, where is it?
14:57.41Grineit's in the standard keybinding sboo
14:58.05Xelar:D
14:58.06KirkburnHono(u)rless target - was it always 30 secs? I think it's been increased from 10?
14:59.24steev64it was increased
14:59.56Datux<yacoob> on the other hand, portraits are one of those oh so redundant things to have... << the first thing i remove :)
15:00.16SykgaffelHjalte: Cycircled kept bugging
15:00.29yacoobDatux, it's just... so unnecessary ;)
15:00.37HjalteSykgaffel: It works fine here..?
15:00.52sylvanaarhrm, i updated to the latest clique, the unit menu option is there now, but i still get the agUF menu instead of the unit menu
15:00.59Gngskyep
15:01.50Sykgaffeleverytime i used power word shield i got a square icon outside the cirlces
15:02.01CIA-1703rabbit * r20389 10aUF_RangeCheck/ (aUF_RangeCheck.toc core.lua libs/):
15:02.01CIA-17aUF_RangeCheck:
15:02.01CIA-17- Working :)
15:02.17Datux<yacoob> Datux, it's just... so unnecessary ;) << i still don't understand people that wants to have their portraits in 3D....
15:02.21HjalteSylvanaar: It's because you get the ag_unitframes menu on ctrl and alt rightclick instead of what we've bound with clique. I've written a post in one of the ag_unitframes threads on the wowace forum about it and i hope the author codes in some sort of switch.
15:03.25HjalteSykgaffel: Did you change the style from dreamlayout to one of the other styles in the bartender3 bar options?
15:03.30HjalteFor _each_ of the bars
15:04.00Datuxabbat_w, did i flood you too much?
15:04.19Datuxabbat_w, omg my nick not registered ;D
15:04.27abbat_wno, my pvt empty
15:04.45Datuxsure private from unreg users forbidden
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15:06.14TuX_BuBlingwill be better now :)
15:06.53sylvanaarHjalte: its an ag_unitfram bug you mean right?
15:07.37HjalteSylvanaar: Indeed. I think it is meant as a feature, but it is irritating when you have bound the combinations for something else with eg Clique.
15:08.55SykgaffelHjalte: i did, but it kept going back to dream
15:09.48vhaarrrofl
15:09.49vhaarrSykgaffel?
15:09.54vhaarrCoolest nick ever.
15:09.58HjalteSykgaffel: Hmm. You should start checking that you have the latest revision of Bartender3. Then try changing one bar to eg zoomed style, reload the ui and see if it works.
15:10.16sylvanaarHjalte: i see it
15:10.40TuX_BuBlingabbat_w, a little of flood, but that's not a big list :)
15:11.27abbat_wyep i see
15:12.09abbat_wi have more mods but my ui have much small memory usage
15:12.22CIA-1703usz * r20390 10TooltipExchange/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
15:12.22CIA-17TooltipExchange
15:12.22CIA-17- Updated for 20000
15:12.22CIA-17- Works, but still requires additional fixes
15:12.34sylvanaarHjalte: agUnitClass.lua line 1337 change 'or' to 'and'
15:14.12sylvanaarHjalte: to access the agUF menu, use ctrl-alt-rightclick, otherwise it displays the unit menu if only ctrl or alt are held down
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15:14.26HjalteAh, great. Thanks Sylvanaar.
15:15.16kenlyricI'm slowly going insane trying to sell stuff on the AH without a mod.
15:15.34TuX_BuBling<abbat_w> i have more mods but my ui have much small memory usage << that's why i think of a leak somewhere...
15:16.28Gngskif you want clique unit menu to work with ctrl+click on aguf there's two places where you need to remove checks for IsControlKeyDown()
15:16.42TuX_BuBlingi upgraded fubar at first days patch
15:16.49TuX_BuBlingmaybe there's new versions now
15:17.01TuX_BuBlingand maybe a problem with my versions....
15:17.46TuX_BuBlinganother evening testing addons instead playing....
15:17.48Gngskoh, nvm
15:17.50TuX_BuBling^^
15:17.54Barbanuswhy would you come report any kind of error without updating first?
15:17.58Gngskjust saw what sylvanaar said about or and the ctrl-alt-click
15:18.26HjalteGngsk: Thanks for the suggestion, but sylvanaars modification works great also :)
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15:22.54SykgaffelHjalte: is bartender3 able to shift bar 1 if i go shadowform? didnt check before i removed
15:23.03pb_ee1!addon wow model viewer
15:23.20HjalteSykgaffel: Yes it is
15:23.30Sykgaffelkewl
15:25.04sylvanaarIdeally, id like to be able to click on the aguf portrait and have it show the unit menu - i think the portraits are separate frames
15:27.51Grollwho is it that makes skinner?
15:29.08haarmSykgaffel, /bar bar1 paging stances
15:29.22Sykgaffelthanks
15:29.28haarmnp :)
15:29.45haarmoh it has a fubar plugin now, i forgot, use that instead
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15:32.17Grinea fubar plugin you can't remove...
15:33.11sylvanaargrine, which?
15:33.25Grineskinner
15:33.26koviyou can hide it, you know
15:33.32kovioh
15:33.46kovihm nvm :<
15:33.56Azurewrathnewest Skinner revision is completely broken for me.. i reverted back 2 revisions or something..
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15:34.57PkekyoAny recommended enemy castbar addons out there for 2.0.1?
15:35.17UrulokeArcHUD got one *coughs* ;)
15:35.28Pkekyoreally?
15:35.34UrulokeYep
15:35.36sylvanaarwhose mod is skinner?
15:35.39abbat_wguys, are all addons in wowace.com/files/ have description in wowace.com/wiki/ ?
15:35.51Pkekyosec, Uruloke, gonna log in and see if I can find it...
15:36.05Hjalteabbat_w: Most of them have descriptions, but not all
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15:36.45sylvanaarGrine: Edit Fubar_SkinnerFu.toc, and change LoadOnDemand = 0 to 1
15:36.59GoogleSearchabbat_w: No, only if its developer (or someone else) wrote a page for it
15:37.02kenlyrici'm using antagonist, but it doesn't seem to pick up casts very well, especially when changing targets.
15:37.13PkekyoElkano here atm?
15:37.14abbat_weh ;(
15:37.15sylvanaarGrine: then exit wow
15:37.33Elkanono ;)
15:37.46Grinesylvanaar, where?
15:37.51Grinecan't find the .toc...
15:37.53Pkekyogot an error messag from FriendsFu, something about comparing two nil values...any idea why this might happen? (or even what it means in plain english)
15:37.54Elkano~seen wmrojer
15:38.18purlElkano: i haven't seen 'wmrojer'
15:38.18Josh_BorkePkekyo: it means there's a bug
15:38.18sylvanaarin the Fubar_SkinnerFu folder
15:38.18Elkanono, I don't have an Idea :/
15:39.22Pkekyohehe, ok
15:39.32Antiarc_Morning folks.
15:39.52abbat_wHeh
15:39.56abbat_wspellbinder is nice
15:40.03abbat_wcan save actionbar slots
15:40.17Grinesylvanaar, there aint one ;) the fubar stuff is inside the skinner.lua...
15:40.30Sykgaffelwtb perfectraid ^_^
15:40.36sylvanaarGrine: oh, no wonder
15:40.44phreakyspellbinder rocks, but it does not work with oCD =(
15:40.53Grinesylvanaar, this is skinner you konw...
15:41.13Elkanook, FuBar_RecZone is broken on non-en systems due to changes to UnitFactionGroup
15:41.29abbat_wphreaky, i plan to use spellbinder only for macros
15:41.45phreakyok.. :)
15:42.03abbat_wi have alot of macros like /ant stop, /grid standby etc
15:42.17phreakyWell oCD works with spellbinder, but u still gotta put out all spells on a bar (hidden or not) to get the cd's on the bar =/
15:42.31[Ammo]healthy little spawn
15:42.37abbat_wHeh
15:42.39abbat_wAmmo ;)
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15:43.49sylvanaarGrine: add to skinner.lua: Skinner.cannotAttachToMinimap = true
15:43.54kenlyricwhat *does* ocd work with? I haven't found it yet.
15:43.54Pkekyorefresh my memory, anyone: was SpellAlert ace-based?
15:44.03Grineooh nice :) thanks alot sylvanaar
15:44.39GrinePkekyo, don't think so
15:44.42abbat_wPkekyo, WitchHunt
15:44.49abbat_waced spellalert
15:44.50Gngsk~seen neronix
15:45.03purlneronix <i=neronix@user-514c5185.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22d 16h 5m 47s ago, saying: 'Are they made of friggin' antimatter or something? -_-'.
15:45.07Pkekyotried witchhunt last night abbat...filled my screen with faggoty spam
15:45.39abbat_whmmm.. i use it. all ok
15:45.50abbat_wbut some spammy in av ;)
15:46.01CIA-1703antiarc * r20391 10Sanity2/ (Libs/ Sanity2.toc): Sanity2: Dry commit. Moved externals from the TBC branch in SVN to the trunk. Added AceDebug.
15:46.01Pkekyowell, can't handle having half my screen filled with yellow and green tbh... (I PvP much)...
15:46.13sylvanaarpersonally i like putting the fubar mixin in the main addon - but it always seems to cause issues when you disable it from fubar
15:46.21GngskPkekyo, do you use SCT or MSBT?
15:46.21Jokiewhat about NECB pkekyo?
15:46.39abbat_wnecb much spammy mod what i see ;)
15:46.57Pkekyono, Gnsk (memory reason)
15:46.57PkekyoJokie: what's NECB?
15:47.00Jokiei know it's now Ace, but you can have it only show your current target's action
15:47.04Jokienatur's enemy cast bar
15:47.09kenlyricis wand damage not showing up in MSBT a known problem?
15:47.10Jokieer not* ace
15:47.10Pkekyoah
15:47.19Gngskkenlyric, update to the latest it's fixed
15:47.26abbat_wnecb uses ace now?
15:47.50Pkekyoused to have that one...like it, but I'm looking for something with just a message when the spell is being cast...SpellAlert had such a little discrete red writing on the top of my screen...I miss it...
15:47.54Pkekyono it doesn't, abbat
15:47.58abbat_wi read last read me and see what this mod have special options for force gc calls ;)
15:48.32abbat_wit's nice in description "use it before you have important fight" :)
15:48.57Jokieabbat_w, it was a typo.. meant to say necb is not Ace based
15:49.16Pkekyogc calls?
15:49.24abbat_wI think he now monstous mod ;(
15:49.32abbat_wpvp/pve monster
15:49.45Pkekyowho? me?
15:49.56abbat_wPkekyo, necb have special option for force garbage collection call
15:49.56Pkekyo...confused...
15:50.02Pkekyoah
15:50.20abbat_wtipically if you have gc call it's look like small lagspike
15:50.37Pkekyoyou know where there's a 2.0.1 version of it abbat_w?
15:50.44Icerothkenlyric, from 4.01 patch notes: Fixed the problem induced by the 2.0 patch where wand damage was not showing up.
15:50.52abbat_wnot a fun to take gc after nova for example
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15:51.03Icerotherm.. patch.. anyway..
15:51.05abbat_wPkekyo, curse-gaming.com should have
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15:51.30Pkekyomeh, I hate their new front end
15:51.35Pkekyowas so much easier before..
15:51.59Pkekyocan't find it there though
15:53.14Pkekyodoes SCT have a SpellAlert-function?
15:53.26Silviu-Pkekyo get WitchHunt
15:53.43Pkekyotried it, hated it...filled my whole screen with huge letters in ugly colors
15:53.50Silviu-Works with SCT and msbt
15:53.58Silviu-U didin`t hook it in mbst then
15:54.01Silviu-Or sct
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15:54.05Silviu-depends what u have
15:54.06Silviu-:>
15:54.08Pkekyodon't have either of them
15:54.51Pkekyowhat's the difference?
15:54.58Silviu-I usewd to have sct but fel in love with mbst
15:55.00Silviu-:)
15:55.03Silviu-msbt
15:55.05Silviu-*
15:55.11Silviu--w
15:55.16Silviu-Hmm i`m tired
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15:55.41Silviu-Hmm difference between sct and msbt ?
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15:55.59kenlyricwell, you can make it much less spammy.
15:56.07Pkekyowas thinking about with or without msbt and sct...
15:56.11Silviu-kenlyric yes
15:56.12kenlyricespecially if you have lots of dots...
15:56.17Pkekyoabout the witchhunt stuff, that is
15:56.19Silviu-and i`m awarlock :)
15:56.28axxosct is the famous one, msbt is the good one
15:56.29Silviu-So it`s more nice for me
15:56.32Stavmarquestion about ag_UF
15:56.35kenlyricyeah, you pop dots on 4 or 5 targets in pvp/pve, and you'll notice a huge difference.
15:56.36Pkekyo<<< warrior, victim of thousands of dots
15:56.45kenlyricaxxo... nice description :)
15:56.54Stavmaris there a mod to show Combo points on the UF or another mod to help compensate for them not being there
15:56.57Silviu-Pkekyo i don`t dot warriors i one hit them *drool*
15:57.00Silviu-;p
15:57.08Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
15:57.10Pkekyosoeh...where to get msbt?
15:57.18Silviu-wowinterface.com
15:57.22Icerothhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-MikScrollingBattleText.html
15:57.27Silviu-Or so
15:57.27Silviu-:)
15:57.34Pkekyoouh, haven't been there before
15:57.35axxothere is a cool video that shows the feature
15:57.43Silviu-Yes u can watch the video
15:57.44Silviu-:)
15:58.16Pkekyocba to check the vid tbh...I'll just download it for the hell of it :)
15:59.40Pkekyowasn't really after an SCT equivalent though, just wanted some red text to let me know that the lock I'm targetting is going to dispatch me next
16:00.07axxoa felguard
16:00.18GngskPkekyo, did you try the witchunt option for target only?
16:00.43Pkekyoaye, got spammed into oblivion as I keep changing targets constantly
16:00.51Pkekyofelguard = warrior pet taken from the early betas of wow
16:01.10Gngskyea, using sct/msbt makes the messages fade a lot quicker, which keeps the spam down
16:01.50Gngskanyone know how to move around antagonist bars? can't seem to find an option to show anchor
16:01.59Pkekyowell, guess I'll reenable witchhunt and try it out again then...
16:02.08Gngskugh, lock
16:02.10kenlyricthere is, because I just did it.
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16:02.37kebinusanping ammo
16:02.40Stavmaranyone know of a good combat point mod for rogues
16:03.07Gngskhaste made a ace version of the good old rogue helper
16:03.26Gngskshows combo points as 5/5 and energy as 100/100 in a small box
16:03.47Stavmardo you know the name
16:03.53Pkekyoif you're looking for a more complete package, ArcHUD got a buildt-in one
16:03.54Gngskuhm
16:04.04Silviu-Gngsk /ant lock
16:04.05Stavmarwe dont want huds
16:04.25Gngskit's not a hud, just a frame with numbers
16:04.44GngskoRogueHelper
16:04.48Stavmarso everything else can be turned off like mana and health
16:05.20Stavmarthanks for the tip
16:05.29SykgaffelHjalte: bartender and circle is still bugging with new versions
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16:07.39Sykgaffeland when i change styles it get stuck to Zoomed
16:08.08Pkekyomsbt was great, thanks guys
16:08.20Boobies4uguys
16:08.24Boobies4uAce2 mods > *
16:08.28Boobies4ukthx
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16:08.35kenlyricnowai
16:08.40TuX_BuBlingjust a question
16:08.42thalie~thalie
16:08.50purlACTION is the Spirit of Redemption.
16:08.54TuX_BuBlingif i'm loading Ace2 libs as an addon
16:09.14TuX_BuBlingi could remove all Ace2 libs given with addons that are using it
16:09.16TuX_BuBlingisn't it?
16:09.17Boobies4ukergoth, dont make me take out the cosmos!
16:09.27thalietheoretically tux, yes
16:09.41thalieit will only keep one instance of each library
16:09.42TuX_BuBlingloading Ace2 + addons libs/ace2* could lead to use more memory
16:09.46Pkekyosykgaffel: you use to hang around on some norwegian design forums?
16:09.49thalieincorrect.
16:09.53TuX_BuBlingah
16:09.57Sykgaffelyeah Pkekyo
16:10.08Pkekyothought I reckognized the nick
16:10.10thalielike i said, it will only load one instance of each library
16:10.16Sykgaffel:)
16:10.16TuX_BuBlingmmmh ok
16:10.18Boobies4uSykgaffel, Kjersti Grini er HOT
16:10.25TuX_BuBling100%?
16:10.52TuX_BuBlingok ok i trust you ^^
16:10.55thaliehow do you think some people use a !!!Libs folder with all their libraries stored there?
16:11.07snurre-meh, oCB still disappears when youre getting interrupted while channeling :/
16:11.18Boobies4u~boobies4u
16:11.21purlfrom memory, boobies4u is the weed dealer of #wowace
16:11.28HjalteSykgaffel, exactly how are they bugging?
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16:11.57Pkekyogah, just got nuked in AB, insane spam from MSBT
16:12.10TuX_BuBlingthalie, i'm not sure about the loadondemand stuff
16:12.25TuX_BuBlingbut if you tell me this is ok i trust you ;)
16:12.37thalielook, if you are concerned about it or are not sure what you are doing, leave the libs in.
16:12.39Sykgaffeli can take a screen
16:12.40thalieit won't hurt performance in-game.
16:12.41Sykgaffelgive me a sec :)
16:12.50TuX_BuBlingok
16:12.57thalieit might take a bit longer to load, but that's it.
16:13.02TuX_BuBlingthat's what i'm looking for :)
16:13.07Grogglesis there any quick way to turn off all options in Skinner so I could enable just the ones that I want?
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16:13.23TuX_BuBlingthe addon that's eating too much of memory ^^
16:13.32thaliegroggles: start deleting files in "AddonSkins"
16:13.37CartasHm...
16:13.45CartasThere is an option, right, Thalie? :o
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16:13.58thaliei believe so, but they still "load" don't they?
16:14.02Grogglesok
16:14.19Silviu-snurre- as i noticed default cast bar disapear too
16:14.21CartasI don't think he meant memory-wise, just graphically :P
16:14.24HjalteSykgaffel: If you install buggrabber and bugsack you will have some very precise error messages that is easy to understand for the developers
16:14.35GngskStavmar, http://tinyurl.com/ya32y7
16:14.51thalienever bothered disabling anything in skinner, not sure if that abomination has a config menu or just / commands
16:15.21Lopengngsk, are you blind? ;)
16:15.37GrogglesI just want the bottomframe and topframe on and everything else off really...
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16:16.00CartasGroggles: /skinner ui none
16:16.01CartasEnter that
16:16.03thaliei believe someone else created a mod which did just those two things
16:16.13GngskLopen, what exactly do you mean?
16:16.27Lopenyou're chat windows are huge, with a large font size
16:16.54Gngskmost of the time they're empty
16:17.03Grogglesawesome, thanks
16:17.08thalie~skinner
16:17.09purlskinner is the mod which completely ruined Haste's perfectly good and efficient OSkin.
16:17.09Lopenah
16:17.22thaliepurl is so wise.
16:17.31kenlyriclopen has like laser vision. His fonts are tiny tiny tiny
16:17.42thalie~cartas
16:17.44purlcartas begs for maps.
16:17.51Silviu-Gngsk nice 10 ms with server
16:17.51Silviu-:D
16:18.20Gngskheh, yea off peak hours ftw!
16:18.30Sykgaffelimageshack bugged xD want me to send it Hjalte?
16:18.38Lopenhttp://www.ctscreens.net/1850 ... fonts aren't that small :P
16:18.50Hjaltesure, you can send it to hjalte@hjalte.com
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16:21.26Sykgaffelsent now hjalte
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16:22.40BS|triflyhello
16:22.52shiftosevening
16:22.58thaliemorning
16:23.04thalie~ugt
16:23.05purlwell, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
16:23.37shiftos...
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16:25.55neeneeegh
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16:28.00Sykgaffelfixed it now
16:28.32HjalteSykgaffel: Oh, you found a solution?
16:28.59Sykgaffelwent into the .lua filed and changed it to default
16:29.06Sykgaffellooks like it's working now
16:29.21SykgaffelStylpe: i am
16:31.12Sykgaffelbecause im not registered xD
16:31.23Stylpeah lol
16:31.26PProvostMorning all
16:32.09Stylpe<PROTECTED>
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16:35.16neeneeHm. I wish DeuceCommander was called 'DC' in fubar, it takes too much space.
16:35.23neeneeAnd I am not fond of the icon
16:35.31Antiarc_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOm7Y6uWWyg
16:35.33Antiarc_Hahahahah
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16:38.34thalielol that's awesome
16:39.03Sarozag_uf debuffs sometimes miss the texture
16:39.04Sarozgg
16:39.15Gngskyea, I noticed that
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16:39.35Sarozon all non-type debuffs
16:39.45GngskI had it happening with curses too sometimes
16:39.54Sarozzzz
16:39.58Sarozhow hard can it be
16:40.16thaliefix it yourself if it's so easy
16:40.29Gngskimpossibly difficult
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16:42.32Stavmaris there  qagood soulstone counter or shard counter in Ace that is working?
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16:42.39Stavmaris there a good*
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16:45.03Miles|zzzSaroz: file a bug
16:45.23PProvost_nenee, you can hide the text and just push the icon somewhere else
16:45.33thaliedefinitely post it on the thread or ping ag if he's around
16:46.00Antiarc_http://www.sendspace.com/file/7ixbqk is awesome.
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16:46.13phyberStavmar: ShardAce.
16:46.25phyberStavmar: you don't find it on the SVN, but it's on WoWInterface
16:47.15DeviadIs there any way to make space between the frames of the party unit frame in "ag unitframes"?
16:47.43BS|triflyi need help please i m editing my first add on ^^' ,i need a debug to find where the mod bug
16:47.50waffle^_deviad: /aguf config, unit frames, unit groups, party, growth distance
16:48.02AzurewrathBS|trifly: !BugGrabber+BugSack
16:48.10Deviadmmm OK I'll check it now thx
16:48.37BS|triflywhere can i find buggrabber and bug sack ?
16:48.41waffle^_man, I can't ever settle on a bar texture
16:48.43kenlyricstill can't figure out why the party frames have to be stuck together.
16:48.47waffle^_wowace.com/files
16:48.49PProvostBS|trifly, www.wowace.com/files
16:48.51PProvost:)
16:48.52Gngskwaffle^_, bantobar
16:48.53kenlyricno other UF mod in the world forces them to be stuck together.
16:49.23BS|triflyThx u =)
16:49.23Gngskthey have to be stuck together?
16:49.23Gngsksince when?
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16:49.23kenlyricI can't find any way to seperate them.
16:49.27PProvostkenlyric, aguf?
16:49.30kenlyricyeah.
16:49.47PProvostalt-right click on party frames... there is an option there to stop them grouping together
16:49.55PProvostOr dig through the top level config menu
16:50.08kenlyricI dug through the entire menu, saw no such option for that.
16:50.11PProvostThe don't "have" to be stuck together.
16:50.14waffle^_yeah, I don't see it either
16:50.19waffle^_I thought it was there, but I can't find it
16:50.20PProvostHmmm...
16:50.24kenlyricI'll admit that I probably didn't try that particular clicking combination.
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16:50.33WebGuesthi
16:50.37PProvostIt was there... if it went away, it went away recently. I'm not logged in now, so I can't look.
16:50.38Gngskalt-click brings up the menu
16:50.47WebGuesti want to report a bug
16:50.51PProvostI know I used to move mine custom.
16:50.57PProvostWebGuest, what mod? what bug?
16:51.01thalielol
16:51.12WebGuesteverytime i go in the arena and enter combat i disc instant
16:51.21WebGuestso i installed bugsack to see why
16:51.22thaliethis is a bug with an ace2 mod?
16:51.25thalieah
16:51.26WebGuest2006/12/13 17:47:37-4-x1]: AceEvent\AceEvent-2.0.lua:296: ...bs\SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0\SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua:225: Usage: UnitBuff("unit", index [,raidFilter])
16:51.38Stavmarhey does anyone know why itembonuses Fu is not including +30 to spell power in the spell damage calculation?
16:51.38WebGuestis the only error it tracked
16:51.41thaliei went into the arena yesterday
16:51.54WebGuestdunno why....i can disable all addons...i still disc
16:51.55PProvostWebGuest, are you up to date with your addons and libs?
16:51.58CIA-1703jncl * r20392 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/vBagnon.lua Skinner.lua): Skinner: Hide Plugin without disabling Skinner; Skin all vBagnon frames
16:52.07PProvostYou can disable all addons and it still disconnects?
16:52.10neeneeHm. For some reason /xlm qualitythreshold does not work for me.
16:52.11PProvostThen it isn't an addon.
16:52.20WebGuestdownloaded them yesterday from wowace.com and wowinterface.com
16:52.33thalieif you disable them all and it still discs, it's not an addon causing it
16:52.34PProvostMight be a server problem or a client patching problem.
16:52.37PProvostagreed
16:52.47WebGuestthe only way
16:52.49BarbanusWebGuest probably your network card.  I would check the official wow tech support forums .. there is a post about it
16:53.00WebGuestnot to disc is to delete wtf interface and wdb folder
16:53.05Barbanusyou can make some changes to your net card settings, and it will fix it
16:53.12WebGuestbut as soon as i install the addons again i disc
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16:53.24WebGuestso i think addons are the reason for it
16:53.28PProvostHmmm... strange.
16:53.31PProvostHave you tried this...
16:53.44BarbanusI'm confused .. you said "[08:51] <WebGuest> dunno why....i can disable all addons...i still disc"
16:53.44thaliebtw, there should be no wdb folder
16:53.50cncfanaticsyo all
16:53.52WebGuestits in the cache folder
16:53.55WebGuestthe wdb..
16:54.03thaliecheck
16:54.06PProvostHave you logged in and out a few times w/ addons disabled?
16:54.12WebGuestyes
16:54.18WebGuest3times
16:54.19PProvostIt might be something int he client and it might be what Barbanus reported.
16:54.33WebGuestbut i will try again
16:54.36WebGuestone moment please
16:54.37TheKarn~vbagnon
16:54.56TheKarn!ace vbagnon
16:55.13thaliehttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3197
16:55.28thalietuller wrote it
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16:56.34WebGuestso i disabled all addons again
16:56.42WebGuestand then logged in and out 3 times
16:56.45thalie~vbagnon
16:56.46purlextra, extra, read all about it, vbagnon is a group of addons that improve the way the player manages his or her inventory, authored by Tuller.  See http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3197
16:56.50WebGuestnow i am in arena queue
16:57.35evl_Wasn't there a similar Sanity addon before 2.0?
16:57.35WebGuesti think its the same bug that makes me lag in arathi and alterac
16:57.47WebGuestlag stops after about 10minutes bg
16:57.48Xuerian'morning, all. Still at it thalie? :P
16:57.49evl_PlowKing?
16:58.40TheKarnevl_, there was a similir Sanity before 2.0, and now there is Sanity2.0
16:58.58BarbanusWebGuest, try this http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01686p3
16:59.17Grollpurl if tuller put all those windows into one window i might consider using it but 5+ windows on my screen no thanks :P
16:59.19thalie~emulate xuerian
16:59.20purlXLoot is driving me crazy.
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16:59.38BarbanusWebGuest, is it only the arena then?
16:59.46thalie~dance
16:59.47purlACTION tries to breakdance, but runs into gix and knocks him flat!
16:59.53XuerianXD
17:00.03Antiarc_There was indeed a Sanity pre-2.0 ;)
17:00.05XuerianNice, lol.
17:00.07thalieheh
17:00.14thalierandnick ftw
17:00.21BarbanusWebGuest, are you a warlock?
17:00.25Antiarc_Though vBagnon and Sanity serve different purposes.
17:01.25WebGuestpprovost?
17:01.32XuerianHehe, that too-obvious thing I couldn't figure out :P. Was going to implement it in the stabbing, but I figure having purl stab something anonymous would be safer for my health <.<
17:01.34PProvostYes?
17:01.44WebGuestno disc this time
17:01.46thaliehaha
17:01.57WebGuestafter relogging 3 times with addons disabled
17:02.03WebGuestwhat could be the reason?
17:02.20thaliecan i be blizzard support please please please
17:02.20PProvostMy only suggestion would be to enable them one at a time and see when it goes wonky.
17:02.34thaliedelete your interfaces, WTF and WFB folders.  that should solve the problem.  have a nice day.
17:02.35PProvostOtherwise it is very hard for us to help figure it out remotely.
17:02.36WebGuestabout 3 times after entering combat
17:02.40PProvostthalie, be nice
17:02.43thaliewhy
17:02.44Xuerianhehehe...
17:02.46BarbanusWebGuest, is it only happening in the arena, is it happening when you get stunned, and are you a warlock? cause there are a buncha warlocks getting d/c in the arena when they get stunned.
17:02.55evl_TheKarn: so what's the difference between Sanity and MrPlow? :)
17:02.59Stavmarphyber, looks interesting how is it memory wise? Is it as bad as necrosis?
17:03.00WebGuesti am a warlock
17:03.01BS|triflyi looking for a lua editor i just want the line number
17:03.06thalieit's called a sense of humour, i'm pretty sure you have one pprovost ;)
17:03.13BarbanusWebGuest, check this out, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54857134&sid=1
17:03.14phyberStavmar: it's just a few buttons on the minimap, that's all.
17:03.14snurre-has praid been fixed yet?
17:03.19WebGuestdont see a connection between stun and disc
17:03.19thalieask cladhaire
17:03.20phyberStavmar: it's nice.
17:03.26hasteStavmar: oRogueHelper isn't on the forum as it's not done, it however works under WoW 2.0, but the only option you have is to move it atm
17:03.30WebGuestgot stunned 3 times in the last arena and didnt disc
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17:03.55PProvostsnurre-, clad has talked in his wowi page for praid that he will be updating it, but it hasn't been yet.
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17:04.21snurre-:(
17:04.26WebGuestthx i will read through the whole thread again barbanus maxybe i missed something
17:04.34PProvostWebGuest, I think you should look at those posts that Barbanus  linked to and also try a bit of playing around with going one addon at a time.
17:04.41PProvostIt sucks I know, but it is the only way.
17:04.44Antiarc_evl_: Sanity doesn't actually rearrange your inventory - it just lets you sort and filter a view of it.
17:04.45WebGuestand yeah its just happening in the arena
17:04.54PProvostOdd.
17:04.55Xueriansnurre-: At a random guess, PRaid has reached the "I Really don't want to mess with this, but everyone wants me to... <sigh>" stage for Clad, at least :p
17:04.59StavmarHaste, ok thanks i was looking at NugieComboBar as an alternative becasue the dots for my guildimates will function better then text, they have difficulty reading
17:05.07BarbanusYea, thats a post of all warlocks, all getting d/c in the arena lots
17:05.08WebGuestbut like i said its very laggy for about 10minutes in arathi and alterac
17:05.10Antiarc_Sanity does do the stack compression that MrPlow does, but MrPlow goes in and rearranges items in your inventory, which Sanity doesn't.
17:05.15Stavmarseemd pretty simple to use and looks good
17:05.15PProvostWebGuest, It sill seems like it might not be a bug in the Wow client...
17:05.18BarbanusSeems related to your problem .. hehe
17:05.45PProvostI haven't done any arenas yet, but I do AB and AV all day and haven't seen what you describe.
17:05.51PProvostWhich Ace adddons are you usign?
17:05.55WebGuestand after this 10minutes dlay disappears
17:05.59WebGuestuff a lot
17:06.09WebGuestshould i post a screenshot of my addons folder?
17:06.15Stavmarmadmax30
17:06.21snurre-Xuerian: that kinda sucks.. the addon owns so much, but the author don't want to fix it :(
17:06.45thaliehe will fix it eventually
17:06.46Stavmarmt sorry
17:06.47PProvostWebGuest, ummm... no. :)
17:06.49snurre-it's the only thing i have left in my UI
17:06.57snurre-left to add*
17:07.07Barbanuslol 9 pages of warlocks getting d/c in the arena
17:07.08PProvostsnurre-, I switched to grid
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17:07.13Xueriansnurre-: Yep. thalie is right most likely, anyway... That's just what I'd be like ;P
17:07.14Barbanusguess warlocks are nerfed in the arena eh?
17:07.28PProvosthehe... as I said... sounds like it might not be an addon problem
17:07.39PProvostby that I mean, the arenas might break with ANY addons running
17:07.42PProvostfor warlocks.
17:07.51snurre-PProvost: i prefer praid.. the layout fits so well for my setup
17:07.52PProvostLovely
17:07.56XuerianAbout time they got nerfed :P
17:08.05thalieno kidding
17:08.13WebGuesthmm
17:08.23PProvostsnurre-, yeah I loved PRaid + Squishy, but since squishy got nefed, grid seems to fill the gap nicely
17:08.26BarbanusWebGuest, these people are also claiming it doesnt happen on other characters .. do you have an alt you could try it on?
17:08.38BarbanusA non-warlock alt :P
17:08.43WebGuestnope i sold my old account to play warlock like a god ;=)
17:08.48Barbanuslol
17:08.54WebGuestneeded money for new pc
17:08.54WebGuest:>
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17:08.58snurre-PProvost: well, im not healing very much with my warr, so. .:p
17:09.10sylvanaarIs !!!StandaloneLibraries hidden?
17:09.58PProvosthehe
17:10.22WebGuest500euros were a big help...one moment i'll up the screenie ;)
17:10.24PProvostSince my main is a Druid I kinda need it.
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17:10.42Silencer_hello
17:10.42sylvanaarMine is a druid too
17:10.44PProvostI suppose I might want Praid back for my rogue
17:10.50BarbanusWebGuest "I get random disconnects even if i haven't engaged an enemy yet, it only seems to happen if i have summoned something that requires a soulshard. Also, it says that the soul shard cost isn't supposed to apply when in the arena, apparently that'd bugged."
17:11.01PProvostsylvanaar, thanks for the patches. They worked great!
17:11.09Silencer_can some1 tell me why in aguf when I click Duel i have problems that blizzard say something to disable addon or ignore :?
17:11.12sylvanaarPProvost: cool
17:11.14XuerianHeya, Silencer_.
17:11.28PProvostSilencer_, I've seen that on lots of strange things.
17:11.30BarbanusWebGuest, it would make sense these bugs are related in theory :)
17:11.47PProvostEssentially it is caused by something, somewhere in the chain of events calling a protected function.
17:12.23sylvanaaranyone know the fate of !!!StandaloneLibraries?
17:12.29thalieunsupported isn't it
17:12.40PProvostBarbanus, I agree. Seems too likely
17:12.59sylvanaaro.O
17:13.12PProvostsylvanaar, looks like it has been killed.
17:13.28sylvanaar^.^
17:13.29WebGuesthttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1467/untitledmc7.jpg my addons
17:13.29thaliei thought there was a forum thread about it,.
17:13.31PProvostNo idea why.
17:13.32sylvanaar<.<
17:13.35BarbanusProbably the client/server trying to give you the pet for free, having a bug somewhere, getting stuck in some sort of loop, and eventually giving up and d/c you
17:13.36sylvanaar>.>
17:13.51sylvanaarX.X
17:14.40PProvostWebGuest, at least your addon list is fairly small. Shouldn't be hard to do the divide and conquer.
17:15.21WebGuesty...deleted a lot with the patch...mhhh
17:15.38WebGuestcan you recommend me an alternative to http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1942 ?
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17:16.12HjalteWebGuest: Try Prat
17:16.47thalie~sylvanaar
17:16.49cubicoolIs there anything in the wowace SVN repo that allows you to change the location of the tooltip popup? Preferably, follow the mouse cursor? Gypsy used to do this, but it's pretty dead and not 2.0.1 compatible as far as I can tell.
17:17.05thalie~sylvanaar
17:17.07purl[sylvanaar] in shock
17:17.07sylvanaarpurl doesnt like me
17:17.13Mahirohi
17:17.18thaliepurl knows all
17:17.20purland don't you forget it
17:17.27Mahirosomeone here who works on prat?
17:17.35sylvanaarMahiro: me
17:17.50Xuerianlol.
17:18.17thalieok fine
17:18.18thaliepurl sucks
17:18.20purlonly if you ask nicely and pay well.
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17:18.39Mahiroaha:D i noticed that with the original interface im able to "target" someone over the namemenu, is that possible with prat?
17:18.52sylvanaar! /2 WTB [!!!StandaloneLibraries] PST
17:19.14WebGuestokay thanks for your attention i'm out to eat now
17:19.33^^sunsylvanaar: about the editbox texture thing, http://ace.agamemnon.net/wowace/trunk/VisorEditBox/VisorEditBox.lua
17:20.02sylvanaarMahiro: please be more specific
17:20.11WebGuesthave a nice day dudes...first blizzard kills my ui then it stuns me to death....where is this train going ? ^^
17:20.27kenlyriclol.
17:20.27WebGuest<WebGuest> have a nice day dudes...first blizzard kills my ui then it stuns me to death....where is this train going ? ^^ bye
17:20.32cncfanaticshmmm, does AceOO support abstract classes ?
17:20.37PProvostcubicool, LitheTooltipDoctor moves the tooltip and does nothing else. TinyTip moves it and does lots of other things too.
17:20.52Silencer_how to move in prat button to right side on channel4 for exemple
17:20.57Silencer_the main I want to be on left
17:21.01Mahirothere is a menu when you click the name in the chat, and there is an option to target that person....
17:21.08Silencer_and the forth channel i want it to right :/
17:21.15cubicoolPProvost: Thanks. :)
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17:22.16PProvostcubicool, if you want it on the mouse pointer, then you want TinyTip. LTD doesn't do that.
17:22.16snurre-WebGuest: blizzard kills your ui? or you just using incompatible addons?
17:22.17sylvanaar^^sun: have you tried using a skinning mod?
17:22.17cubicoolAnother quick question: does ag_UnitFrames support the new enemy casting bar? I've never been able to see it... :)
17:22.28thaliethere is another mod called mEnemyCastBar which shows it cubicool
17:22.37PProvostcubicool, I use Antagonist
17:22.40^^sunthere is no skinning mod for the editbox apart from DFM that i know of
17:22.42thaliei use BOTH
17:22.46HjalteSylvanaar: I think he means that he would like to see an option like the alt- invite feature, but with eg ctrl leftclick --> target another player.
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17:23.13^^sunsylvanaar: and dfm doesn't work :)
17:23.24cubicoolPProvost: is Antagonist a full framework like ag_UF?
17:23.32^^sunsylvanaar: but the editbox texture thing looks a bit more complicated than it appears :)
17:23.40PProvostcubicool, no it is just cast bars
17:23.46cubicoolAhh, cool. :)
17:23.55sylvanaarCan Skinner replace the chat editbox textures?
17:24.01CIA-17ow
17:24.09^^sunyeh
17:24.16^^suni think it does that
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17:24.34^^sunmaybe it's not up to prat to do it :)
17:24.45Dekunais Antagonist working?
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17:25.06sylvanaar^^sun: yeah, i think that would be best from a skinning mod
17:25.15^^sunu're right :)
17:25.27Mahirosylvanaar: http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chatrb3.jpg
17:25.27Mahirothats what i was talking about
17:25.31^^suni thought it was just a settexture thing but it is not
17:25.38^^sunthe editbox got more parameter than that :p
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17:27.14sylvanaarThe answer to silencer's question is that Prat doesnt support moving the scroll buttons to the right/left of the chat frame on a per-frame basis
17:27.44BarbanusMahiro, I dont believe that is possible anymore, because the edit box is not a secure frame (so therefore, cannot do targetting), I could be wrong however.
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17:27.59sylvanaarMahiro: yeah, thats from another chat mod
17:28.29Mahirothats in the original chat...
17:28.44sylvanaarMahiro: no, it isnt
17:29.14Mahirohmm then why do i have this option without prat...oO
17:29.14sylvanaarMahiro: thats ChatBox i think
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17:29.44Mahiroi  have no other chat mod... chat log is installed but i doubt its from that one
17:30.12packetlsssylvanaar: it actually is in the original UI
17:30.17sylvanaarreally?
17:30.25packetlsswas added some while ago
17:30.42sylvanaari hvaent used the default ui in so long
17:30.49sylvanaarone moment
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17:32.06HjalteMahiro: Playermenu maybe?
17:32.19sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
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17:33.30CIA-1703jncl * r20393 10Skinner/options.lua: Skinner: Changed to use AceOptions 'color' type
17:33.39packetlssthink it was added in 1.10, but it was rather obscurely noted in the changelog
17:33.41CIA-1703jerry * r20394 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:
17:33.41CIA-17ItemBonusLib:
17:33.41CIA-17_ more fixes to french locale
17:33.41CIA-17_ fixed a bug when removing color tags from enchantment lines.
17:33.45Mahirohmm whats playermenu?^^
17:34.01Pillibut not available wit any chatmod ?
17:34.02sylvanaarMahiro: ok, so what is the issue again
17:34.06Mahiroi will check that on a toon without addons
17:34.30sylvanaarMahiro: i agree that it is in the default UI
17:34.37Mahirowould be nice if thta option would exist in prat:D
17:34.42sylvanaarI just tested it on prat it works
17:34.56packetlss1.10 patch notes: If a /who search brings up few enough names that those names are displayed to the chat interface, those names will be right clickable for invite/whisper purposes.
17:35.01sylvanaarMahiro: when doesnt it work for you
17:35.11packetlssit also worked on everything within []
17:35.26sylvanaarMahiro: can you disable things until it does work
17:35.38Mahiroit does not show up in prat... there is no target option
17:36.05BS|triflyADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED: tried to call the protected function TargetUnit() someone can help me ?
17:36.05packetlssno menu at all?
17:36.49sylvanaarok, i dont see target on the prat version you are right
17:38.33cncfanatics~seen ckknight
17:38.51purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 56m 48s ago, saying: ':-P'.
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17:40.23Mahirois someone here who works on buffalo?^^
17:40.32ckknighthey all
17:40.36vhaarrevening ckk
17:40.41vhaarrMahiro: Just ask.
17:40.43Stylpehey ckk
17:40.45ckknightvhaarr, ugt
17:40.48Mahirohuhu
17:40.48ckknight:-P
17:40.50vhaarr^^
17:40.52ckknightmorning for me
17:40.58vhaarrI know :P
17:41.13Barbanussylvanaar, I'm almost positive it probably has to do with not being a secure frame, and you could make that target work for any unit (and be exploitable)
17:41.40ckknighthow's everyone doing?
17:41.49Barbanusckknight, good, yourself?
17:41.55ckknightI'm alright
17:42.19BarbanusJust alright?
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17:42.34neeneeVery well, thanks :) And you?
17:42.37ckknightyep
17:42.38ckknightjust alright
17:42.51vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3431.0 I can't make sense of it.
17:43.00Mahirook without buffalo im able to remove weapon buffs like windfury when rightclicking on the buffs. would be handy to do that with buffalo^^
17:43.05vhaarrckknight: The line in question is |return IsAddOnLoadOnDemand(self.folderName)|
17:43.39Barbanusckknight gets slammed as soon as he gets here :(
17:43.49BarbanusNow I know why he is just "alright"
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17:44.11Fisker[Ammo]
17:44.14Fiskeri have to whine
17:44.15Fisker(again)
17:44.24vhaarrDon't whine at Ammo today.
17:44.38Fiskeri won't then :O
17:44.53Fiskerany of you other guys fixes bugs with ora2?
17:45.00vhaarrTry me.
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17:45.45Barbanusheh, I loved that last night with ora2, my res monitor worked perfect, people with CTRA could see my res's, but theirs wasnt working at all .. they were all like "WTF, how'd you get the res monitor to work", heh
17:45.52Fisker[2006/12/13 18:46:06-422-x12]: <string>:"Assist MT1":2: attempt to call method 'BindingAssist' (a nil value)
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17:46.00Fiskerone my guildies is getting that
17:46.16Fiskerwhen using the keybind for assist
17:46.51kergothmorning
17:47.00Barbanusmorning kergoth
17:47.15CIA-1703ckknight * r20395 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - now uses a backend variable for storing folderNames.
17:47.17wrathamushey, could someone tell me where/how i could get ace profiles so that i can set up diff configs for my alts ... so far i have skinner viewport set up on my main but i want a diff set up for my warrior alt .. how can i do that?
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17:48.09ckknightwell, off to class
17:48.19Barbanuswhat are you taking ckknight?
17:48.25Urulokewrathamus: /addon profile should yield some results if it's an Ace2 addon
17:48.28ckknightBarbanus, well, it's finals week
17:48.32Barbanusyikes
17:48.34XuerianHave fun, ckknight.
17:48.38ckknightno big deal for me, honestly.
17:48.41Barbanusgood luck with that then
17:48.48Barbanuswhats your major? comp sci?
17:48.52ckknightI do have to go and confer with my teachers, though, and the dean
17:48.55ckknightyea, Barbanus
17:49.06Barbanushave fun :)
17:49.09ckknightcya
17:50.05UrulokeIs there any known issue with Ace2 getting blocked when you try to dismiss your pet?
17:50.10UrulokeAs a warlock
17:50.26cncfanaticsthats an addon using ace getting blocked probably Uruloke
17:50.28cncfanaticsnot ace itself
17:50.31AmadeoI think the developers figured that Warlocks were overpowered, and since Blizzard wouldn't nerf them, Ace would!
17:50.36AmadeoMuhahah
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17:51.03cncfanaticsimo we shld all do this at the OnInitialize method:
17:51.06wrathamusi cant duel or dismiss a pet with custom unitframes either :(
17:51.06Amadeohehe
17:51.07UrulokeHmm, maybe so. I use Ace2 as a standalone addon...
17:51.19cncfanaticsif(PlayerClass() == "WARLOCK") then die(); end
17:51.28Amadeolol
17:51.40cncfanaticswish die(); rly existed :p
17:51.44Urulokehehe
17:52.03TheKarni want to /script if(UnitClass("target")=="WARLOCK") then InstaGib(); end
17:52.16UrulokeThat'd be nice, wouldn't it ;)
17:52.21cncfanaticsthat exists TheKarn
17:52.27Antiarc_"Smokers trying to quit the habit were mistakenly prescribed anti-impotence drug Viagra by doctors."
17:52.27cncfanaticsu need to be AP POM Pyro specced though
17:52.29Antiarc_Ahahahahah.
17:52.32cncfanaticsas a mage
17:52.43sylvanaar-- We don't want to show a menu option that will end up being blocked
17:52.43sylvanaarif ( InCombatLockdown() or not issecure() ) then
17:52.45sylvanaargg bliz
17:53.02cncfanaticswhere's that in ?
17:53.03AmadeoAntiarc_: "mistakenly" ;) Doctors have fun, too!
17:53.08cncfanaticspet bars sylvanaar ?
17:53.18Zodiaclol Amadeo
17:53.19Antiarc_Malpractice lawsuits for everyone!
17:53.21sylvanaarthat is in bliz's code
17:53.32AmadeoThey figured..."You won't need to smoke if you're having sex!"
17:53.32cncfanaticsyea, I know, but what does the code its in normaly do ? :p
17:53.40Antiarc_Shouldn't that be "and" rather than "or"?
17:53.44Zodiachmm what about after sex then?
17:53.44sylvanaarBarbanus: you are correct
17:53.52cncfanaticsI think it should be "and" instead of "or" indeed
17:53.53Antiarc_Amadeo: See, way I figure it, that would just make smokers want to smoke more after sex.
17:54.09Barbanussylvanaar, haha, yea, figures.
17:54.09AmadeoThat's true, but hopefully with enough Viagra, there would be no "after"
17:54.10Amadeo!
17:54.17Zodiac:O
17:54.34sylvanaarthats in the dropdown you get from clicking on someone's name in chat
17:54.46sylvanaarblizzards removes the "target" option
17:55.01cncfanaticsblizzard are a bunch of retards, nothing new :p
17:55.07Barbanusbecause you have changed the edit box, tainting it
17:55.12cncfanaticsI'm sure a lot here code better then blizz's coders
17:55.15AmadeoWarriors getting nerfed again
17:55.16Amadeorofl
17:55.23Mikmaif IsAddOnLoaded("Bartender3") then
17:55.24Mikmafor i=1,10 do _G["PetActionButton"..i.."NormalTexture2"]:SetTexCoord(0,0,0,0) end
17:55.26BarbanusAmadeo, mace spec?
17:55.27Mikmaend
17:55.27Amadeoyeah
17:55.29Mikmayay for Mikmisc.lua
17:55.44BarbanusHeh, there is a wicked paladin bug right now
17:55.50sylvanaarMahiro: at this time Prat cannot support the 'target' option from there until a suitable workaround can be found if any
17:55.57AmadeoBarbanus: I agree it goes off too much, but my god, Warriors without the best gear in the game are worthless right now
17:56.03Antiarc_cncfanatics, you have to remember that Slouken has to maintain both the C-Lua interface as well as the actual Blizzard UI code.
17:56.04Amadeobig deal if we stun a lot
17:56.05Antiarc_That's a lot to keep a handle on.
17:56.07Amadeodiminishing returns anyway
17:56.16cncfanaticstrue Antiarc_, but still
17:56.18Barbanusthe 40 pnt holy talent that adds 35% of your intellect as spell dmg/healing, it adds that as weapon damage also
17:56.19[_Trimble_]paladin bug?
17:56.22sylvanaarthe text in the chat frame
17:56.28BarbanusI'm getting 100 extra dmg on my melee attacks
17:56.30AmadeoBarbanus: Don't submit it! lol
17:56.36BarbanusThey know about it
17:56.40Barbanusits been fixed in beta
17:56.42Amadeo:(
17:57.06Barbanusa really fast 2h weapon hits really hard now
17:57.52BarbanusAmadeo, yea, with mace spec it is a non-diminished stun .. so it really can get OP with 2 1H maces
17:57.58Barbanusit procs 32% of the time now
17:58.11AntiarcErr, what? Mace spec stuns are diminished
17:58.16AntiarcThey just are on their own timer
17:58.20AmadeoBarbanus: It's diminished
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17:58.35BarbanusAFAIK, proc stuns are not diminished... that was changed several patches back
17:58.43AntiarcI'm a mace rogue. They are.
17:58.52AntiarcThey are just on a different DR timer than controlled stuns.
17:58.56AmadeoI think they don't get diminished by like Charge and stuff now
17:58.57haarmrogue mace spec stuns definitely are
17:59.02Amadeobut they diminish their own
17:59.05haarm(without looking at the whole conversation)
17:59.17Benumbedspeaking of prat, is it possible to bracket [invite] allowing it to be clicked to invite that person to group like chatmod?
18:00.06sylvanaaryeah, it is, i just added the ability for you to ALT-CLICK on the persons' name to invite them
18:00.19Grollhmm skinner went fubar :P
18:00.24Benumbedsweet, was only feature missing =P
18:00.26Grollie not fubar fubar but buggy fubar :P
18:00.27Barbanushttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch1p9.html
18:00.33Barbanus"Mace Specialization - The stun effect's duration no longer diminishes or is diminished by controlled stun abilities and spells (e.g. Cheap Shot, Hammer of Justice, Charge etc...)."
18:00.33[_Trimble_]I wish prat would color toon names (by class) when I do a /chatwho 4
18:00.35Benumbednow close to being best mod =P
18:00.46AntiarcBarbanus: -controlled- stun abilities.
18:00.56AntiarcKidney Shot and Mace procs have their own DR timers
18:01.05AntiarcIf you proc maces 3 times in 15 seconds, your target is immune.
18:01.10Benumbedis there an ace'd mod to show addons in game and disable/enable them with reloadui (not having to log completely off) before I write one?
18:01.40sylvanaar[_Trimble_]: thats alot of extra who() logic
18:01.56kergothhehe, metalua looks sick (on a non-wow note)
18:01.58BarbanusAntiarc, well that is horible wording on the patch notes IMO
18:01.59kergoth-{ mlp.expr.add_postix{ keyword = "!", prec    = 90, builder = |a| +{factorial( -{a[1]} ) } } }
18:02.12AntiarcEh, it's pretty clear, IMHO.
18:02.17kergoth^^ generates a ! postfix operator for factorial for use in the lua script
18:02.19kergothfun stuff
18:02.20AntiarcEspecially considering context
18:02.31sylvanaarBarbanus: can you live with alt-invite for now
18:02.41AntiarcMace rogues complained that maces were a very bad spec, because proccing a 3-sec mace stun halved your 6-sec Kidney shot
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18:03.05AntiarcThen they changed it and said "ok, mace procs don't diminish controlled stuns now" and the way they did it was just to put it on its own DR time.
18:03.06Antiarctimer*
18:03.14Benumbedsylvanaar its liveable but brackets would be nice also, but thats up to you =P
18:03.37sylvanaarwell there are brackets, its on their name at the start of the chat
18:03.52sylvanaar[player]: invite me
18:03.53Barbanussylvanaar huh?
18:04.08sylvanaaralt-click on player
18:04.20Barbanussylvanaar, I wasnt the one complaining about it :)
18:04.46sylvanaaroh sorry
18:04.52Benumbedyeah i understand that but requires using my keyboard and dont use my keyboard when playing =x
18:04.56Barbanushehe, it was Mahiro
18:04.58sylvanaarBenumbed: ^^
18:04.59Benumbedno biggie, will bind alt to my n52
18:05.39Mahiroi wasnt complainig, just asking if its possible to add:D
18:05.43BarbanusBenumbed, you're a clicker?
18:06.02Benumbedno spells are binded to n52
18:06.54sylvanaaryou are want ing chat-cast like functionality
18:07.00cncfanaticsckknight, what happens when using mixins when multiple mixins have a method with the same name ?
18:07.10Benumbedbut reason was asking cause had to type to invite said person, but alt click is fine
18:07.12cncfanaticsare they both called after eachother, do they override eachother or does it error out ?
18:07.25sylvanaaryou can right click their name
18:07.50sylvanaarbut, let me see what i can do
18:07.58Benumbedyeah always had something interferring with rightclicking name
18:08.07cncfanatics~seen ckknight
18:08.24purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19m 15s ago, saying: 'cya'.
18:08.24kergothcncfanatics: it'll error.
18:08.25Benumbedi end up rightclicking wrong person, etc
18:08.29cncfanaticstnx kergoth
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18:09.20Barbanuscncfanatics, he went to school
18:09.24cncfanaticskay
18:09.30cncfanaticsargh, I hate  this, I can't think straight while coding
18:09.35cncfanaticsdamn exams tire me too much
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18:10.13Benumbedso asking again to make sure before i write it, no mod (other than nurfed) allows addon disable/enable in game without total relog
18:10.31Barbanusuhhh yes.
18:10.37mjcdeltron: ping
18:10.46UrulokeAce1 does :P
18:10.53mjcBenumbed: ace2 does
18:10.58mjcBenumbed: also MCP
18:11.07mjcfubar_mcpfu is a nice fubar version of it
18:11.08mjcetc.
18:11.12Benumbedhmm not seeing that option must be missing something
18:11.15Benumbedkk
18:11.21mjc<PROTECTED>
18:11.23mjc<PROTECTED>
18:11.26Urulokewhat's MCP?
18:11.30mjc<PROTECTED>
18:11.33mjcUruloke: master control program
18:11.44Benumbedcause wanting to have that and have like profiles, raid mods, etc and disable/enable all that I put in a category etc
18:11.45mjcputs an addon button on the escape menu
18:11.46UrulokeOooh
18:11.51mjcBenumbed: MCP does that
18:11.51kergothBenumbed: you want mcp
18:11.56Mahirohttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2198
18:11.58UrulokeKinda like the old MyAddons?
18:12.02kenlyricis this a good time to say mcp?
18:12.08mjcdeltron: pingping
18:12.19Benumbeddoh kk
18:12.35CIA-1703antiarc * r20396 10Sanity2/Libs/: Sanity2: PROTIP: AceEvent is not the same as AceDebug.
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18:14.27AntiarcIs oRA going to get the option to turn of the MT's Target-of-Target off? That's a regular complaint among the non-healers in my guild.
18:14.36UrulokeAlready got it
18:14.54kenlyricscrew the non healers.
18:14.57AntiarcHm. Is that a recent re-addition, or is it oddly named, or...?
18:15.02AntiarcI know it was there pre-2.0
18:15.06UrulokeKinda recent
18:15.13Tornhoofhi, anyone good with those new secureactionbuttons?, trying to get leftclick to cast one spell and rightclick to cast another working
18:15.20kenlyricwrite all mods for healers... the others just have one target anyway.
18:15.52BarbanusAntiarc, yesterday?
18:16.07AntiarcI haven't updated since yesterday, but I will check it. Thanks!
18:16.43leech2knon healers should be watching it to see if they get aggro anyways
18:16.55leech2kand to assist
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18:17.37AntiarcI generally just watch my personal target of target as a rogue.
18:17.39Barbanusleech2k, and to stop attacking if the tank looses it
18:17.59leech2kRoger that.
18:17.59AntiarcI use the MT boxes for a) finding my assist target (though this is depricated with /focus now), and little else.
18:18.26BarbanusI need to make some macros for the new focus frame
18:18.38UrulokeHaven't really understood what's so good about the focus target yet
18:18.51leech2kI haven;t messed with /focus yet. Should probaly play with it.
18:18.53Barbanusespecially for like last night when it was my job to keep up wisdom on patch, and spot heal the 3rd offtank
18:19.22kenlyrichmmm... for sheeping, fearing, healing, etc...
18:19.23Barbanusso I can target patch, hit a macro that heals my focus, without stopping targetting patch, lazy mode!
18:19.35AntiarcIn other news, I declare that tonks are the best thing to happen to non-buffing classes in raids ever.
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18:19.47AntiarcAfter a wipe, all the rogues pull out their tonks and blast each other till the ready check hits.
18:19.49AntiarcIt's awesome.
18:19.53Barbanustonks? lol
18:19.55leech2kfocus is different than mouseover?
18:19.55BarbanusLOL!
18:20.01AntiarcYeah, the new engineering-made tonks
18:20.07UrulokeOnly thing I've done with focus is to add indicators to the target frame of ArcHUD ;)
18:20.08Barbanusleech2k focus is a new frame
18:20.13leech2khmm
18:20.14BarbanusYou have target .. and focus
18:20.21leech2kI guess I havent seen this frame yet
18:20.22Barbanusso you can target one .. and "focus" on another
18:20.22SykgaffeloCD loose a lot of options? not able to remove the oCD text and background box
18:20.25vhaarrUruloke: Indicators?
18:20.33Barbanusleech2k, target someone and type /focus
18:20.35Urulokevhaarr: Yeah, like the Blizz frame does
18:20.45Aileen_if the MT frame would just get the numbers back, it would be perfect now that the option to grow upwards was put back in again :)
18:20.45AntiarcagUF has a focus frame, too
18:20.45vhaarrUruloke: Focus needs its own frame.
18:20.51AntiarcThough a focustarget frame would be sauce.
18:20.58kenlyricfor instance, you can set the mob you sheeped as your focus, go kill other things, then come right back and sheep him again, without needing any special mods to keep track of that.
18:21.01Urulokevhaarr: I haven't seen any focus frame with the Blizz UI
18:21.07leech2kthats nice
18:21.13vhaarrUruloke: Probably because you haven't set the focus target.
18:21.19vhaarrUruloke: focus is not target.
18:21.20BarbanusAntiarc, wonder if that is possible, I was thinking the same thing
18:21.21leech2kI have a question about aguf
18:21.26Urulokevhaarr: I did earlier... didn't get a new frame
18:21.27kenlyric<PROTECTED>
18:21.37AntiarcI don't see why it wouldn't be. It would be phenominal for setting up assist stuff.
18:21.42vhaarrUruloke: Blizzard sucks, then, you need a separate frame for focus.
18:21.46AntiarcPlus, it would allow you to change your MA in combat if necessary.
18:21.55leech2kit acts different then other unit frams as in it doesnt change target on mouseclick(down) but on mouseclick(up)
18:22.02leech2kso if u click move a bit and unclick
18:22.06leech2kit doenst select
18:22.06Urulokevhaarr: Only thing I saw that changed was that the target frame got a white glowing border when you target your focus
18:22.11vhaarrUruloke: I'm just telling you ArcHUDs handling of focus is fucked, deal with it or not, I don't care.
18:22.14BarbanusAntiarc, from my understanding, that is the purpose of the focus frame, an alternative to that
18:22.24Fiskery helo thar
18:22.32Urulokevhaarr: Hehe, the current version on SVN doesn't even handle focus at all
18:22.42AntiarcWell, it's useful for a lot of things. For DPS classes, yeah, it would be best for assisting
18:22.44Sykgaffelhow do you remove the 'zzz' icon from agUF when resting?
18:22.53SachsSykgaffel, lose a lot of options? Shouldn't /ocd lock take care of what you described?
18:22.58AntiarcFor healers, /focus your primary heal target and go spot heal as necessary
18:23.28leech2kAntiarc: but my primary healer target is always on the mt list :-)-
18:23.36Sykgaffelnope Sachs
18:23.47BarbanusAntiarc, yea, for healers (especially paladins), its great to autoattack something (like patchwerk), and use a /cast [target=focus] Holy Light
18:24.03kenlyricyes, but if you use the MT window, you have to change your target to do something to them.
18:24.10kenlyricwith focus you don't change your target.
18:24.17leech2kI am going to setup a [target=mouseover] macro I think for spot healing
18:24.21Barbanuswhat kenlyric said
18:24.32Sachskenlyric, there are healers that don't use clickcasting mods? :o
18:24.43kenlyricclickcasting mobs still change your target.
18:24.44leech2kI dont use click casting :-)
18:24.54leech2k<-- priest
18:24.58Barbanuskenlyric, no they dont :P
18:24.59Sachskenlyric, no it duesn't. ;P
18:25.02RoyalSince patch, when I hold down alt, certain actions are blocked, like moving items around in bags. Any way to unmap the alt-key or smth?
18:25.04Sachs*doesn't
18:25.18BarbanusClique, alt +leftclick to FoL heal = SEX
18:25.37SachsBarbanus, whack-a-mole!
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18:25.43kergothgoddamn the perl buildsystem is the DEVIL
18:25.43mjcpaladin = homosex
18:25.55leech2kLOL
18:26.04BarbanusSachs, yea, thats what it feels like sometimes heh
18:26.05ggilbertkergoth: welcome to 2004?
18:26.23kergothyeah, saying that bought back unhappy memories
18:26.27UrulokeDo focus get all the events that target get?
18:26.28Barbanuswhack-a-mole with a 1.5 sec cast
18:26.32AntiarcA nice trick night be to, as a healer, /focus a boss, then set up a macro to /cast [target=focustarget] Some Heal
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18:26.41BarbanusUruloke, I believe so, yes
18:26.53BarbanusAntiarc, yea that works well too
18:26.54AntiarcThat way, in encounters where bosses wipe aggro or whatever, you have one button to heal whoever has aggro.
18:27.08ggilbertkergoth:   would you like to go play with libtool for a while?
18:27.12leech2kcan u click cast on player models too?
18:27.16kergothactually
18:27.22kergothi saw a C implementation of libtool on some project's svn last week
18:27.27kergothmight be worth playing with
18:27.31Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
18:27.40kergothi dont particularly give a shit that its C, but its a reimplementation, so maybe it su cks less
18:27.44ggilberthehe
18:27.58ggilbertMy personal fear is still X licensing
18:28.06Feldiaanyone know when the advanced bar paging features are going to be added to bartender3?
18:28.50BarbanusAntiarc - /cast [target=targettarget, help] Greater Heal; [help] Greater Heal
18:28.54kergothportableapps.com is my new best friend
18:28.58mjcdeltron: blah
18:29.03AntiarcNice.
18:29.04BarbanusAntiarc that would do both :)
18:29.06kergothhurray for not having to pollute work's windows box with the tools i need
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18:29.41leech2khmm I need selfcast to work again
18:29.51kenlyricbuilt in selfcast actually works now.
18:29.55leech2knope
18:29.59kenlyricuh huh.
18:30.02leech2knot until 2.0.2
18:30.10kenlyricwhat doesn't work about it, for you?
18:30.16leech2kit doesnt work with multiple modifieres
18:30.20Sykgaffelhow do you change the elkbuffbar texture? :)
18:30.36leech2kfor example if u se shift-2 to cast a spell
18:30.42kenlyricthe thing before 2.0.1 was when I had an enemy targeted, I couldn't dispel magic myself, and if I had a friendly unit targeted, I couldn't heal myself, even with Alt.
18:30.54kenlyricah, yes, I guess those wouldn't work.
18:30.59SachsSykgaffel, replace BarTexture.tga in the addon directory with your texture of choice. ;P
18:31.13kenlyricthey fixed all the stuff I need :)
18:31.13Sykgaffelthanks
18:31.13leech2kalt-shift-2 (alt for selfcast) it will activate whatever is bound to 2
18:31.27leech2kit is a bug that is strips all modifiers when activating selfcast
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18:31.52Aileen_can anyone recommend a "hey dumbass recast your buffs" addon now that CorkFu is busted?  the buff addons category in the wiki doesn't seem to have anything else
18:32.21kenlyricthe one big mod I miss (besides auctioneer) is autobuff.... ug... I never remember to recast inner fire.
18:32.38kergothwhy would you miss auctioneer?  the alpha does work in 2.0
18:32.39Aileen_same, but it's trueshot aura for me :)
18:32.53Dekuna~boobies4u
18:32.54purlsomebody said boobies4u was the weed dealer of #wowace
18:32.57kenlyricyeah, the last time I tried an auctioneer alpha... um... yeah.
18:33.08kenlyricI'll wait until a release, and suffer.
18:33.22kergothi've been using auc unstables and alphas for about 6 months
18:33.29kergothmaybe once a month or two i get a non-fatal error
18:33.35kenlyricso, I read the description for KCI, and it seems like it would do what auctioneer does, but it doesn't actually work.
18:33.53kenlyric"this is broken" should really be included in the patch notes ;)
18:34.31AmadeoI need to buy a portable audio player
18:34.45ggilbertI'm happily using the alpha as well, but I'm doing it under the assumption that if it breaks I get to keep both of the pieces. :)
18:34.47CIA-1703saroz * r20398 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix error when toggling lock
18:34.50kergothi couldnt live without my mp3 player at work
18:34.52kergothggilbert: same :)
18:35.03kergothor perhaps put the pieces back together with chewing gum
18:35.10AntiarcI need to install auctioneer. It's basically my only income source, and I've spent 400g since the patch.
18:35.30Amadeokergoth: I just can't decide if I want/need a large capacity player or just a flash player
18:35.33kenlyricwell, I'm going to have to breakdown soon.. I need space badly, and selling stuff manually on the AH just takes too long.
18:35.34ggilbertThat's the one annoying thing about Naxx
18:35.38ggilbertso freaking expensive
18:36.00kenlyricwhat, 2.0 patch didn't completely break raiding for your server? ;)
18:36.14FeldiaI made 23g in naxx last night!
18:36.15GoebI was gonna say, you can still raid?
18:36.17Feldia:P
18:36.24AntiarcIt set us back, but that just means it's more expensive as we lern2play again.
18:36.26Feldiawhy wouldn't you be able to raid
18:36.34kenlyricmy server didn't see a single new boss drop last week. from any guild.
18:36.59Feldiaraiding has, for the most part, gotten easier
18:37.00Feldianot harder
18:37.05Feldiaas most people seem to believe
18:37.08AntiarcRaid DPS is definitely up.
18:37.09ggilbertHehe our first raid after 2.0.1 was Naxx and we ended up doing a Keystone Kops impression
18:37.17kenlyricyes, but you atually have to get people togethere first.
18:37.24AntiarcWe haven't had problems filling raids.
18:37.33Feldianor we
18:37.34AntiarcBut then, we have like a billion people that raid.
18:37.35kenlyricyeah, and I want to know what alternate universe that is.
18:37.50Feldiawe did our full clear last week, as per our regular schedule
18:37.57Feldiawith both patch problems
18:37.59Feldiaand people doing exams
18:38.01Feldiaso meh
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18:38.19AntiarcAn alternate universe with...128 accounts that actively raid with us :)
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18:38.34Feldiawe have 50 accounts in guild
18:38.39Feldiaand a further 3 applicants out of guild
18:38.46Feldiamaybe 2
18:38.47FeldiaI can't remember
18:38.56ggilbertThe turnout is pretty much the same as it was pre-patch. Naxx is a bit borderline on signups because it's expensive. MC is low because no one wants to go, and BWL is fairly full.
18:38.57AntiarcYeah, I can see how it'd be hard to fill a raid then.
18:39.01Sarozwe have 44 accounts
18:39.02Sarozgg
18:39.11FeldiaAntiarc:  we don't have a problem filling raids
18:39.21SoLoR<kenlyric> what, 2.0 patch didn't completely break raiding for your server? ;)
18:39.27Feldiayea saroz, pretty sure this is the largest my guild has ever been
18:39.35SoLoRwe just cancled all raids till further notice...
18:39.41Saroz2.0 made us stop raiding
18:39.42SoLoRprolly wont raid till TBC
18:39.42Sarozsame SoLoR
18:39.51Feldiawhy? what happened?
18:39.54kenlyrichow do you make a 128 active raiders happy?
18:39.56Feldiajust attendance issues?
18:40.00SoLoRye
18:40.02SoLoRPVPing
18:40.02ggilbertkenlyric: you don't :)
18:40.06SoLoRlost interest
18:40.07SoLoRetc
18:40.09Sykgaffelelkbuffbar still bugged ><  wont lock into one place
18:40.09Antiarckenlyric: Multiple tiers of raiding, but you can't make everyone happy.
18:40.13Sykgaffelgoes back after relog
18:40.13ggilbertkenlyric: But most of them can be rather satisfied
18:40.24Mikmahmm
18:40.31Mikmai need some good talent-tree for warlock
18:40.32AntiarcWe have a progression system, where you can do ZG/AQ20/MC about as soon as you hit 60, but have to be cleared by your class leader to sign up for BWL/AQ40/Naxx
18:40.41kenlyriclots of guilds are using this time for natural attrition anyway, to pare down for TBC raid sizes.
18:40.42Mikmaanyone has one?
18:40.49Feldiayea that's how we handle alts in raids antiarc
18:41.05Feldiavery similiar system
18:41.06Feldiavery effective
18:41.13AntiarcThat keeps instance populations sane, and people tend to gear up and stop needing to go to an instance
18:41.30AntiarcWe have lots of heavily geared people that are available to help out, but generally just sit once they have what they need to make room for new people.
18:41.33Feldiaand also stops from bring assholes in greens / blues to TAQ
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18:42.18kenlyricdamn, I need to go :)
18:42.37kenlyricerrr, from greens to AQ40 gear.
18:42.53Feldiathat's kinda the point
18:42.54Feldiawith our system
18:42.56Feldiathat doesn't happen
18:42.59MikmaKirkburn: YO?
18:43.09Feldiaso raid standards are kept higher, and our clears don't slow down because of alts
18:43.14AntiarcFor the most part, we just want to be sure that people a) have the experience needed for an instance, and b) have the gear to contribute.
18:43.21ggilbertThe other thing that is kind of different is that our recruitment is pretty much a separate from our raiding turnout
18:43.29AntiarcYeah.
18:43.41kenlyrici've got the A, just not the B (damn reroll)
18:43.47mjckergoth: posted the LoD version of oRA2 and BW in the mod section on sanc forums
18:43.57mjcwe'll see how it goes ;)
18:44.11mjcthey are using oRA2 instead of CTRA now hehe
18:44.23kenlyricass backwards.
18:44.35neeneemjc: My guild is too :D
18:44.40BS|triflyit possible to reload add on in wow and not restart the game ?
18:44.47mjc<PROTECTED>
18:44.53AntiarcBS|trifly: /rl or /reload or /script ReloadUI()
18:44.55Feldiaas long as you aren't installing a new addon
18:45.03KarlThePagan<PROTECTED>
18:45.27mjcif /rl doesn't work, you don't ahve any ace1/2 mods installed, and you should not be here
18:45.31mjc:P
18:45.42Goebright, then you should use /wrists
18:45.48mjc<PROTECTED>
18:46.03BS|triflyyes i have found thx u all
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18:46.14waffle^_does /rl do the same thing as /console reloadui ?
18:46.18mjcyes
18:46.20Goebno problem, the harassment's free :)
18:46.26waffle^_have i been typing like 30000 extra characters for no reason? /cry
18:46.31AntiarcHahahah, wow. We have 262 characters in the raid tracker, Greg.
18:46.35BS|triflyi m beginner i try to edit a add on for the first time ^^'
18:46.53ggilbertSo Antiarc, is that including people who quit/got booted
18:47.12AntiarcWell, that's active characters since the changeover to the new system.
18:47.17BS|triflyyes that do the same /rl and /console reloadui
18:47.29ggilbertHmmm. I could see that
18:47.31AntiarcOh, that includes sub-60s.
18:47.36ggilbertsome people put all of their level 2 alts in
18:47.51mjclevel 1 ankle fuckers
18:47.57mjc~ding
18:48.06purlhmm... ding is dong
18:48.06mjc~zing
18:48.18Sykgaffelnobody able to help with the Elkbuffbar not locking itself into place ? :)
18:48.21Antiarc206 level 60s, I think.
18:49.02BarbanusWe have 79 raiders, 64 active.
18:49.11CIA-1703pastamancer * r20399 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusAuras.lua):
18:49.11CIA-17Grid:
18:49.11CIA-17- Added "X-Do-Not-Use-Email-For-Reporting-Bugs-Or-Asking-For-Help: yes, emphatically" header to toc.
18:49.11CIA-17- Scan unit auras when unit joins raid/party.
18:49.11CIA-17- made a few changes to help with localization ("foo " .. "bar" -> string.format("foo %s", "bar") )
18:49.18Barbanusactive as in raiding in the last month
18:49.30kergothhahah, nice .toc field
18:49.39vhaarryeah
18:49.52Feldia262 raiders? jesus
18:50.06Antiarc206 raiding 60s, including alts.
18:50.13ggilbert262 is all of the people who signed up for our raid site.
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18:50.20Antiarc262 including sub-60 characters.
18:50.23BarbanusLOL my 64 includes alts :(
18:50.30ggilbertI for example have a level 2 named Willychomper in that count.
18:50.33Feldiahttp://www.team-surge.net/dkp/listmembers.php
18:50.34Feldia55 for us
18:50.48Feldia55 people
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18:51.19Feldiabut there are still a few applicants in there who have since been rejected
18:51.45Barbanuswe just had a jackass rogue apply
18:51.50Barbanushis app pisses me off
18:51.52[dRaCo]Anyone here who know how to use mobhealth with the blizz frames since the patch?
18:51.57kenlyriclink it!
18:52.11Talyn600m_[dRaCo]: i just changed to .toc to 20000 and it works fine
18:52.14kergothtotally offtopic, but does anyone know of any decent online primers on encryption technologies?  i know jack about encryption and need to get up to speed on the basics fast for work
18:52.21kenlyricthere's a new mobhealth.
18:52.38[dRaCo]a new one?
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18:52.49kenlyricwell, I have one.
18:52.58Barbanuskenlyric: http://progenyguild.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=946
18:53.05[dRaCo]got the one from /files, doesn't work with blizz frames
18:53.13[dRaCo]and the blizzframes mod is gone
18:53.18kenlyricoh, ok.
18:53.22Talyn600m_i use the new MobHealth3, but i took the old MobHealth3_BlizzFrames and changed the .toc
18:53.25Barbanuskenlyric Keep in mind, we brought this guy to a nef fight cause he was buying gear from us
18:53.26Talyn600m_works perfect
18:53.59Pkekyoerr...what should I use to open an ISO file? daemon tools?
18:54.04[dRaCo]isobuster
18:54.13[dRaCo]if you want the files without mounting it
18:54.14Barbanuskenlyric, and his guild grifed us on a world dragon by having 2 paladins taunt him off of our tank, and then breathe on the raid
18:54.21kergothdaemon tools can mount it, lots of compression tools can extract it (winrar, others)
18:54.23Barbanuskenlyric, and these are his alts
18:54.36Feldiaat least that guy is honest in his application
18:55.25Pkekyothanks for the tip on winrar, kergoth...appreciated!
18:55.38kenlyric7zip friend good.
18:55.46kenlyricthough didn't winrar recently become free?
18:55.47BarbanusFeldia, heh, I guess you could give him that .. but we already knew it anyways :P
18:56.13Pkekyoit did, kenlyric?
18:56.13Pkekyowanna get rid of that bloody trial version-popup
18:56.27mjc7-zip good
18:56.28kenlyricmy brain might have made that up.
18:56.32kenlyricI use 7-zip.
18:56.35neeneeInstead of WinRAR, get 7-zip
18:56.37neeneeyup :)
18:56.39neeneeIt's great.
18:56.49KarlThePagankergoth google "alice bob encryption" ;)
18:56.51Pkekyonah, I've been using WinRAR since I was 11 years old...I'll stick to it :)
18:57.11kenlyricyeah, and I used cracked versions of winzip for a decade... I learned to adapt :)
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18:57.20KarlThePagan7zip is free software
18:57.31waffle^_7zip is awesome
18:57.41KarlThePagansupport free software not software piracy :P
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18:57.51Pkekyowell, the trial version of winrar satisfies me sufficiently :)
18:57.52KarlThePaganunless you pay then I'm sorry you paid too much for that ;)
18:57.56CIA-1703phyber * r20400 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/MicroMenuFu.lua:
18:57.56CIA-17FuBar_MicroMenuFu:
18:57.56CIA-17- Made the Help button open the Knowledge Base frame instead of the GM Ticketing window. This brings the addon back inline with what Blizzard's buttons do.
18:57.57cubicoolIs the bug fixed in Ace/FuBar where you can't right-click and dismiss pets? I haven't updated in about a week...
18:58.04kergothBrief Introduction to Digital Signatures and Public Key Encryption - afongen.com/writing/pke/
18:58.09Deviadwaffle^_, what is the name of the mod that displays a guy who needs to be healed?
18:58.12kergoth"Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL - Your request was categorized by Blue Coat Web Filter as 'Adult/Mature Content;Computers/Internet;Blogs/Newsgroups'. "
18:58.16kergothi fucking hate filters
18:58.24waffle^_Deviad: that was squishy, but squishy is DEAD now.
18:58.29KarlThePaganlolol kergoth
18:58.35Deviadwaffle^_, with /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() I get tablet20detached frame
18:58.37Mahirohmm why cant i start a duell without getting a msg that Ace2 has been blocked?
18:58.38kergothKarlThePagan: it was really funny...
18:58.42Deviadsomeone here suggested me a new one
18:58.43kergothKarlThePagan: they blcoked wikipedia for a week
18:58.46Deviadbut I don't remember it
18:58.48Feldiayou can start a duel with /duel
18:58.51DeviadI don't remember the name I mean
18:58.52Feldiathe right click is blocked for somer eason
18:58.52waffle^_Deviad: grid?
18:58.56Deviadyeah
18:58.57Deviadgrid
18:58.59Deviadthx
18:59.10KarlThePaganI have the ultimate web filter - my wife and female ceo can watch my web url's at any time
18:59.26KarlThePagan(2 different ppl there)
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19:00.06Goebssl web proxy FTW :)
19:00.10*** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ
19:00.13KarlThePaganlol tru
19:00.22KarlThePagana lot of proxies blacklist those
19:00.37[dRaCo]Talyn600m_: thanks, got the blizz mod of the svn and changed the number, it works :D
19:00.41DeviadEternally777, hello
19:00.46DeviadEternally777, any good news?
19:00.53GoebI got me a sprint broadband card and browse thru that!
19:01.20Barbanuswireless USB ftw :P
19:01.36Barbanuspick up some random open wireless connection
19:01.37Scre3mi use an ssh tunnel to my linux box at home as a web proxy
19:01.56*** join/#wowace Jakobud (n=Jakobud@sceapdsd42-130.989studios.com)
19:01.57Scre3mworks like a charm
19:01.58Goebscre3m- yeah, that's the route I'd recommend
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19:04.21BapsI run the firewall.. so there's no issue there.. but the company I work for develops network analysis tools.. which does limit things somewhat
19:04.22Barbanusor just work for a company that doesnt block :P
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19:04.56KarlThePagananyone else using Windows Vista yet?
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19:05.08Eternally777I am
19:05.23KarlThePagani wanna setup some logon scripts to mklink my WTF/Screenshots directory to my home
19:06.00Eternally777gl
19:06.00Eternally777hf
19:06.01KarlThePaganoh i figured it all out
19:06.01KarlThePaganexcept...
19:06.09KarlThePaganhow to MKLINK to the wow directory without admin priviledge
19:06.16kenlyricwindows vista was fine with wow. It hated Hl2:EP1
19:06.28KarlThePaganorly? I should try that
19:06.30Goebyou usin a beta or the release?
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19:06.54KarlThePaganRC i believe
19:06.55KarlThePaganchecking
19:07.05kenlyricheh, that thing is broken.
19:07.15Goebapparently the gold release has been pirated already...
19:07.19KarlThePaganlolol
19:07.25kenlyricwell, i'd hope so.
19:07.26KarlThePagannot by me i swear
19:07.28kenlyricit's been out for a month.
19:07.32Bapsgoeb: well, it's been released to corp customers
19:07.39Bapsit's just not available retail until Jan
19:07.48Goebthey even hacked the authentication servers :)
19:08.13vhaarrubuntu.com, fedora.redhat.com, gentoo.org .. what's that, FREE operating systems? o_O
19:08.17vhaarrCan't be true.
19:08.18kenlyricthe server authentication is sex... 20k computers, instantly authorized when they join the ads domain
19:08.28kenlyricyeah, those run half life 2 *really* well ;)
19:08.36KarlThePaganI gotta use vista for work... so ... trial by fire
19:08.39Goebactually, they do...
19:08.41vhaarrHL2 works fine here.
19:08.47SoLoR<KarlThePagan> anyone else using Windows Vista yet?
19:08.49vhaarrSo does the rest of Steam.
19:08.50SoLoRye RTM
19:08.57Goebvharr- you run wow in linux?
19:09.05vhaarryes
19:09.05GoebI've been meaning to try it... someday...
19:09.10vhaarrRuns fine under WINE.
19:09.12SoLoRfor about a month now... no biger problems except few drivers still as beta :<
19:09.13Goebvharr- which wine you use?
19:09.19Talyn600m_i do, works fine with WINE and Cedega both
19:09.20vhaarrGoeb: git trunk.
19:09.30vhaarrlightly patched
19:09.32kenlyriccedega worked, but it was a memory hog... almost as bad as vista.
19:09.36GoebI don't really wanna pay for cedega...
19:09.44Goebmight as well pay for vista ;)
19:09.45thaliepurl, hate you
19:09.47purlbut ... but ... i love you!
19:09.47vhaarrWINE works, like I *just* said.
19:09.51vhaarrWINE is *free*.
19:10.02DeviadEternally777, is there any news about Cryolysis?
19:10.15kenlyricyour definition of works and my definition of works is very, very different.
19:10.18kenlyric;)
19:10.39Goebvharr- you use ubuntu? (I noticed you listed it first)
19:10.43KarlThePagani like the stuff vista stole from mac... it's funny
19:10.48KarlThePaganso obvious
19:10.53vhaarrGoeb: I do
19:10.57kenlyricyou mean the stuff mac stole from vista but released faster?
19:11.09KarlThePaganyea my vista is the RTM ver
19:11.39SoLoRlinux is crap imo as desktop system ;> to complicated for "simple" things like configuring things etc...
19:11.46Goebvharr- blizzard ever fix the map crashing thing?
19:11.58kenlyricif I had to pay for windows, I'd switch to linux in a heartbeat. But we get windows free here.
19:11.58KarlThePaganSoLoR depends which linux you're using
19:11.59vhaarrGoeb: I've never had any crash bugs
19:12.00mjcwhat map crashing thing
19:12.14Goebsolor- "linux" is complex... get a nice desktop package like ubuntu... you'll be surprised...
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19:12.25paranoidiwould anyone happend to know wow 2.0 mod that has options screen with tabs .. the new system screwed my tab handing code for good ;P
19:12.25Goebthat would be a yes
19:12.26KarlThePaganyes... I endorse debian/ubuntu
19:12.31Goeblast time I tried wow in linux was in beta
19:12.36SoLoRKarlThePagan well had double install with gentoo for few months went nuts and erased it :)
19:12.51vhaarrSoLoR: You're a nubcake, then.
19:12.51Talyn600m_i use PCLinuxOS, ubuntu is nice if ya like GNOME
19:13.01KarlThePaganyea well... make-based *nix systems make me cry
19:13.03vhaarrStarting with Gentoo is a lost cause.
19:13.07Talyn600m_it's the only debian distro i ever liked
19:13.16vhaarrIt's like flying a helicopter before you can walk.
19:13.21KarlThePaganI know it's tradition but debian's got really great QA and standards
19:13.23SoLoRnoo i started with redhat years ago ;D
19:13.33xgravixnah you can start with gentoo
19:13.35SoLoRalso only for few months
19:13.44kenlyricgentoo was more fun when they focused more on stage 1 builds.
19:13.45KarlThePaganredhat also makes me cry
19:13.51KarlThePaganit's rc.d is backwards
19:13.52kenlyricnothing like building your very own C compiler ;)
19:14.16SoLoRwell back in old day was admin on school server never saw past shell
19:14.28SoLoRso i never managed to get used to xwin
19:14.50yacoobdebian got too religious last days :/
19:15.04yacooband due to lack of time, I moved to debian integrators, ubuntu ;D
19:15.13ggilbertGoeb: I'm quite satisfied with 0.9.25's performance with WoW
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19:15.42KarlThePaganmeh... I like that debian keeps their core pure-GPL clean
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19:15.52yacoobKarlThePagan, question is, who cares... :)
19:16.11KarlThePaganpeople who publish software
19:16.17Miles|zzz[2006/12/13 20:15:36-142-x3]: AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:296: Interface\AddOns\Detox\Detox.lua:659: attempt to index local 'a' (a nil value)
19:16.18yacoobKarlThePagan, like, they removed one app, because author said 'if you like this app, go and stroke a cat' :)
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19:16.28thaliedetox is broken ... what a shock
19:16.41KarlThePaganlol which?
19:16.41yacoobKarlThePagan, while I find uses for debian, it has lost its appeal to me.
19:16.51yacoobKarlThePagan, can't remember, it was in bo times I think
19:17.02yacoobKarlThePagan, from recent developements: iceweasel
19:17.03Miles|zzzit's updated, works as live list
19:17.25KarlThePagandetox filters... coming to raid frames... some day
19:17.29thaliebah.  smartdebuff actually works.
19:17.36yacoobKarlThePagan, plus, the second bad thing - debian is lagging badly
19:17.54yacoobyou either have to accept unstable/testing, or become a museum clerk with stable
19:18.05KarlThePaganagain... people who publish software care
19:18.08yacoobdon't get me wrong, for some stuff, debian stable is perfect
19:18.20neeneeI tried WoW on linux for many months, but it ran drastically less wel than in windows. I've tried wine, cedega, gentoo, debian.. Oh well. I prefer windows for gaming.
19:18.40yacoobKarlThePagan, but I don't ;) I have different objectives, and while I understand debian community does great job, it's not very usable for me
19:19.00yacoobespecially when you combine it with dead-brain fglrx driver... :)
19:19.10ggilbertIt's a bit slower for me than it is in windows, but it runs acceptably fast and doesn't require me to reboot. :)
19:19.24KarlThePagank your wall of text crit me for "i don't like it" fair enough ;)
19:19.38kenlyricI honestly don't know how people pay for windows.
19:19.40KarlThePaganuse ubuntu if debian is too slow ;)
19:19.55KarlThePagan(slow in release sense I mean)
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19:20.32yacoobkenlyric, inertia ;)
19:20.49kenlyricyes, but it's pretty damn expensive.
19:21.58yacoobwell... that's those folks problem
19:22.05yacoobtoo bad when public money gets wasted :/
19:22.17Zodiachmm, does anyone know why I can't move my MT targets in oRA2 (got rev. 20087)
19:22.36renchapupdate ora
19:22.40Zodiacok
19:22.50Zodiacthx
19:22.51kenlyricdoes Informant have an Ace-mod equivalent?
19:22.55Bapsken: either they get it OEM for a lot less than retail or they don't pay
19:23.53KarlThePagankenlyric KC_Items
19:24.08KarlThePaganis it finally 2.0 compatible tho?
19:25.08KarlThePaganlooks like toc was updated
19:25.13KarlThePagani should read diffs
19:25.24KarlThePaganbut wowace group isn't sending me mail
19:25.59deltronmjc: ping
19:26.22mjcdeltron: check mod section on forums
19:26.28deltronsaw
19:26.39lassizciIs there any way to disable transparency in sRaidFrames?
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19:26.43kenlyrickc_items is broken in several ways. AH scan doesn't work... and it doesn't know the vendor price of stuff until I got to the vendor, which is too late.
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19:26.57mjcdeltron: thoughts?
19:27.02Ominoushey, what is a name of an xp bar mod which is ace2
19:27.10mjcfubar_fuxpfu
19:27.28deltronmjc: we are probably pretty set on oRA2 as our ctra replacement, we are more than likely staying with lvbm instead of bigwigs though
19:27.32ckknightalso, XPBarNone
19:27.48mjcdeltron: that oRA2 is a LoD version, saves a bit of memory
19:27.53ckknightdeltron, but BigWigs is so shiny
19:27.55UrulokeIsn't there a function that simply returns true/false based on if the unit is stealthed or not?
19:27.57Talyn600m_speaking of, is there an ace2 that will auto-change the watched rep to whatever rep you're currently getting?  i thought tekkub made one pre-2.0
19:27.59mjcdeltron: and lvbm is rusty
19:28.00Zodiacrenchap: didn't help :/ still can't move it
19:28.00Ominousckknight; bah was looking under x and being blind
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19:28.07AzurewrathBigWigs has rape jokes!
19:28.15deltronmjc: ahh
19:28.25kenlyricrdx > your puny implementation.
19:28.27Grinemm I love ripping mods apart
19:28.33mjcdeltron: very, very rusty
19:28.34deltronlvbm doesn't like to reset itself sometimes
19:28.36ckknightkenlyric, stop while you're behind
19:28.54mjcdeltron: it's got bolts falling out of it, worse than cosmos :p
19:29.01deltronlol
19:29.02Goebis TheLowDown built into prat now?
19:29.44neeneeI think so
19:29.55Goebwhere'd solor go...
19:30.11GoebI used cosmos in beta :)
19:30.12neeneeYup, it works for me
19:30.15Goebcuz... it was all there was
19:30.18deltronmjc: big issue we have with oRA2 is that people keep on losing their MT windows
19:30.24Goebok so it's time to nuke TheLowDown :)
19:30.27neeneeI used cosmos too :)
19:30.44AntiarcCosmos was really ahead of its time, but it just fell behind too quickly.
19:31.06KarlThePaganTBC installer is NOT Vista friendly
19:31.07UrulokeCosmos was the first pack of addons I used
19:31.17mjcdeltron: the new version of oRA2 would cause that, not everyone's upgraded. same thing as CT
19:31.18KarlThePaganyet somehow the original wow installer set permissions ok
19:31.31mjcdeltron: oRA2 was upgraded to match the new CTRA communication structure
19:32.02mjcdeltron:  /ora version should show more info about that, guarantee you half the raid is using the old one and half is using the new one
19:32.04kenlyricI *installed* cosmos, then fled screaming.
19:32.24SoLoRGoeb ?
19:32.26kenlyricso, just push out the update to everyone. You can do that in oRA, right?
19:32.53DeviadI'm asking myself how cryolysis can be so buggy if necrosis is not
19:33.02deltronmjc: that makes sense then
19:33.05mjckenlyric: you can't write to anywhere other htan a savedvar in WoW Lua
19:33.07Eternally777Deviad, give us a few more hours ;)
19:33.08SoLoRGoeb and ye lowdown in part of prat now a bit changed tho, no animation but code is smaller bacuse of it! :)
19:33.09yacoobkenlyric, while it would be possible to write self-updatable addon, it'd be quite a monster ;)
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19:33.15AntiarcI used Cosmos in beta, then used it for a little while in Live until I realized that I'd get a better result with my own custom package. :)
19:33.16mjckenlyric: if you are storing all your code in savedvars, you are dumb
19:33.25deltroncosmos was awesome like a year ago hehe
19:33.31thalie" kc_items is broken in several ways."
19:33.31Eternally777Deviad: the author of Necrosis has been working on it to make it 2.0 compatible, that's why
19:33.34thaliewhen did you update last ?
19:33.44kenlyricumm... yesterday?
19:33.54thalieyesterday evening i commited a fix to the scanning
19:33.57mjcKarlThePagan: both like to not give the current user permission to write to its own directory on OSX
19:34.27KarlThePaganmjc interesting, yea I'm writing a vista howto on it
19:34.46kenlyricso, I just need to live bleeding edge and be done with it.
19:35.00KarlThePaganI actually still like the Cosmos updater... it does a pretty good job now that they fixed the "nuking other addons" issue ;)
19:35.02ckknightmjc, you could theoretically store an addon in an SV, then somehow update it.
19:35.12ckknightgranted, there are vast security issues with that model
19:35.17mjcckknight: fucking stupid
19:35.31ckknightmjc, I don't see how it's stupid outside the security issues.
19:35.32UrulokeHmm... can you use the stealth conditionals that you got in macros in lua as well?
19:35.40Scre3mi've been using ubuntu for years, i love it, no complaints at all
19:35.43kenlyricscrew security. Getting 40 dumb people to update their raid assist mod is like a nightmare.
19:35.44thaliekenlyric: i would update and be prepared to go back if the new version is borked
19:35.50Scre3mhowever, i play pc games on windows xp
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19:36.17kenlyricI don't think i've seen an option to roll back to previous versions, but I guess I could do it manually.
19:36.26ckknighthrm, you could do a thing with public + private keys
19:36.28thalie~borked
19:36.29purlit has been said that borked is "has been touched by josh_borke"
19:36.29mjcckknight: delete your savedvars and you lose most everything?
19:36.33mjcckknight: still retarded
19:36.40ckknightwhere the GM has a private key, and all the users have public keys
19:36.50kenlyrici haven't actually used RDX since the 2.0 patch, so many of the things I liked so much about it are probably broken now anyway.
19:37.01KarlThePaganPKI with lua would be freakin sweet
19:37.25ckknightmjc, normal users don't delete their SVs.
19:37.31Scre3mi tried RDX as a priest last night, i like the list but it doesnt show buffs and i dont see a way to sort by group
19:37.33ckknightand this isn't a normal environment anyway
19:37.36KarlThePaganuntil blizzard staff tells them to
19:37.51AntiarcHonestly, self-updating mods = not worth the trouble.
19:37.56MaranathaI need a solution that will force an addon folder upgrade to 40 dumb people..in game..on the fly : )
19:37.56mjcckknight: first thing blizz tells you to do
19:38.00ckknightprobably quite true, antiar
19:38.01ckknightc
19:38.11AntiarcSocial solutions such as "If I don't see you running version x.xxx by 8 PM, you're getting kicked from the raid"
19:38.15ckknightAntiarc, get rid of your evil twin Antiar1
19:38.15Antiarcwork much better.
19:38.23KarlThePaganlol yea
19:38.24AntiarcHe's at home and I can't ghost him :(
19:38.29ckknightwhy not?
19:38.35AntiarcUnregistered nick, gaim auto-rejoined :/
19:38.36ckknight<PROTECTED>
19:38.38ckknighthrm.
19:38.40ckknightokay
19:38.49ckknightbut it messes with my Anti<tab>
19:38.59AntiarcHeheh, you can call me Antiar1 and I'll respond to it ;)
19:39.10AntiarcMy word match matches "anti" anyhow.
19:39.12ckknightno, it turns into antiar
19:39.20AntiarcOh, heh.
19:39.24AntiarcUh..
19:39.30NotAntiarcThere you go.
19:39.39antigergNow Antiarc is screwed.
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19:40.15TainI got a Christmas tree!  http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=9352&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=1054&iProductID=9352
19:40.23NotAntiarcOh, I love it.
19:40.51kenlyricthat's awesome
19:41.25deltronwoot auctioneer works in 2.0 now :D
19:41.27Scre3m$24!!
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19:41.53deltroni need a festivus pole
19:42.19Scre3mserenity now!
19:42.21kenlyricflying to a big city to give kc_I a try with an auction house.
19:42.55deltronkc_I?
19:43.02kenlyricKS?
19:43.07kenlyricI'm new at these names.
19:43.14thaliekc_items
19:43.33thalieit's just a hack job, i can display prices in tooltips and scan now so i'm happy with it
19:43.35TainIt's ok, the old-timers around here know it as kci
19:43.39thalieya, np
19:43.53TainAnd why don't you kids get off my lawn!
19:44.05ckknightdeltron, the festivus pole would be awesome
19:44.08Grollis jncl in the channel under some other nick? :P
19:44.17Grollie skinner author
19:44.17NotAntiarc~seen jncl
19:44.41purlNotAntiarc: i haven't seen 'jncl'
19:44.41TainActually if you do it right you could use it as a stripper pole for the rest of the year and celebrate every day.
19:44.41deltronckknight: i went to a festivus celebration last year
19:44.42NotAntiarcThis nick sucks.
19:44.42Arrowmasterhe doesnt come on irc
19:44.42ckknightdeltron, really?
19:44.42kenlyricI don't need complicated profit calculations.. I just want to know how much goes for in the AH and sell for about that mcuh.
19:44.50deltronckknight: yeah, i'm surprised we had it here in st. louis :P
19:45.24deltronhttp://www.festivusstl.com/site/  <-- heh
19:46.07ckknightFestivus is December 23, though
19:46.27deltronthis city is wack
19:46.40kenlyricwe have festivus here at work, but none of can do feats of strength. So we have video games. Last year it was an atari. This year it's a Wii.
19:47.03TainI'm unboxing my Wii right now.
19:47.07deltronI wish i could find a wii
19:47.15deltroni have 1.5 wiimotes so far though :P
19:47.36TheKarnlol
19:47.42TheKarn~wii
19:47.48purlThe toilet is thataway ...
19:47.48deltronit's all I can find
19:47.48TainI'm still waiting for component cables though.
19:48.00deltroni should have picked up the component cables I saw in best buy last night
19:48.01AntiarcTain: I am killing you with internet bullets. Please send me your address so I can pick up the Wii after you die.
19:48.08kenlyricmeh, I want all ace mods. Why don't more mods save to a default profile and use that profile?
19:48.22Antiarckenlyric: Because it's a PITA to do from scratch, likely.
19:48.33kenlyricthey should all build on ace, then ;)
19:48.36TheKarn~iteral wii
19:48.40TheKarn~lteral wii
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19:48.43deltronlol
19:48.46AntiarcAnd many do.
19:48.54kenlyricI signed on to an alt yesterday and I was amazed... half my mods were already setup, in the right place.
19:48.57kenlyricstupid bongos.
19:49.14deltroni need a new bar replacement
19:50.00deltronanything new in bartender3?
19:50.14CIA-1703prandur * r20401 10FuBar_InnboundFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_InnboundFu: initial import
19:50.24CIA-1703devla * r20402 10FuBar_NavigatorFu/ (. FuBar_NavigatorFu.toc):
19:50.24CIA-17FuBar_NavigatorFu:
19:50.24CIA-17- Slowly caress the TOC
19:50.50kenlyricLOL
19:50.50[CyberToast]bartender3 is nice
19:50.50KarlThePaganbartender3 supports 10 bars <3
19:50.50[CyberToast]i use it
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19:50.53UrulokeIs there any way to add translations after a :RegisterTranslations() is called with AceLocale-2.2?
19:50.53[CyberToast]and im quite happy with it
19:51.15AntiarcI'm happy with Bartender3.
19:51.28deltronI fell in love with bartender2
19:51.33deltronafter using bongos for a while
19:51.35kenlyricbongos and ksbt are the two major non-ace mods I use right now. and ksbt doesn't really need any kind of setup for me.
19:51.53deltroni use lvbm :P
19:51.54kenlyricI only used bongos because that's the first thing I found after the patch and discord was horked.
19:51.55SykgaffelI use bartender3 and cyCircled - but when in shadowform i get an extra ring around shadowform on my actionbar
19:52.03deltroneww dab
19:52.21deltronmajor non-ace mod I use is call of elements
19:52.27HjalteSykgaffel: Cycircled will display an extra ring around actions that are active
19:52.41SykgaffelAny way of removing? doesnt look good
19:53.15HjalteHmm. I suppose you could revert to an earlier version where it wasnt it. I'm not sure you can remove it, but i havent checked. I like it.
19:54.07hugohi
19:54.15hugoanyone know what raidframes are these please > http://wow.taskman.se/WoWScrnShot_121106_194513.jpg
19:54.21kenlyricis there a place to easly track the revision notes of a particular mod?
19:54.22hugoi love them.. i neeeed them :DD
19:54.44AntiarcThat's Grid, hugo.
19:55.07hugoit's calle Grid? thanks man ;]
19:55.07Grollcould someone give me some quick help with a macro option.. i want to show x spells icon but i cant seem to get the command right
19:55.10SykgaffelSet up prett nice
19:55.15Hjaltehugo: No, thats the raid frames
19:55.17Sykgaffelpretty*
19:55.48FiskerHas anyone found a solution to twin timers?
19:56.07hugoyes i mean the raid frames
19:56.12hugoits pretty pretty ;)
19:56.36deltrongrid is nice
19:56.44KarlThePaganGroll I think make the first line of your macro #show (Spell or Item Name)
19:56.44kenlyrichmmm.. that is nice.
19:56.48kenlyricI might renounce my love of RDX.
19:56.51hugocan i setup it like on the screenshot without a lua modification ?
19:56.56hugo;d
19:57.06GrollKarlThePagan yep but i'm making soem misstake somewhere :P
19:57.13KarlThePaganpastebin it
19:57.18CIA-1703nevcairiel * r20403 10Bartender3/Core.lua: Bartender3: for what do we need AceHook in the core? /me kills Mikma
19:57.39Josh_Borkelol
19:57.41deltronkenlyric: the party looks like it's perl-x or something
19:57.45Josh_Borkeyou show him nev!
19:57.54kenlyricyeah, I wasn't looking at the party.
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19:58.11kenlyricjust the whack-a-mole window that all healers/decursers must now have.
19:58.11deltronyeah grid is ftw
19:58.28deltronit shows debuffs on there also
19:58.32CIA-1703prandur * r20404 10FuBar_InnboundFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_InnboundFu: added externals, keywords and set eol-style
19:58.52Grollkarl comming
19:59.12deltronanyone here ever make an image of a thumb drive?
19:59.15Antiarc"(4) Set: Each time your Shadow Word: Pain deals damage, it has a chance to grant you up to 100 spell damage and healing for 15 seconds."
19:59.16deltronto clone that is
19:59.16Antiarc:O
19:59.35Josh_Borkethat's hawt
19:59.37deltronwhoa, a shadow priest armor set?
19:59.38KarlThePaganAntiarc O.o tier 4 or 5?
19:59.41AntiarcTier 5.
19:59.44KarlThePagannice
19:59.47Grollhttp://ace.pastey.net/3516
19:59.49AntiarcAvatar Rainment (Healing Set)
19:59.49Antiarc(2) Set: If your Greater Heal brings your target to 100% health, you gain 100 mana.
19:59.50Antiarc(4) Set: Your Renew spells also increase all Resistances by 15.
19:59.59AntiarcAvatar Regalia (damage/healing Set):
19:59.59Antiarc(2) Set: Each time you cast a offensive spell, there is a chance for your next offensive spell to cost 150 less mana.
19:59.59Antiarc(4) Set: Each time your Shadow Word: Pain deals damage, it has a chance to grant you up to 100 spell damage and healing for 15 seconds.
20:00.09deltronlol @ tier 5 pally
20:00.10Grollhehe shammy set right? :P
20:00.13KarlThePagannice.....
20:00.19Grolloh its' pally hehe.. check the shammy ones :P
20:00.20KarlThePaganpriest set finally not shitty
20:00.22Grollit's droolage :D
20:00.23deltronshaman don't have renews
20:00.31kenlyrict2 is not shitty.
20:00.35Grollatleast enhancement :D
20:00.36KarlThePaganwell no
20:00.36deltronwhere you getting that from?
20:00.37kenlyricit's the antithesis of shit.
20:00.42AntiarcTransc is friggin' amazing.
20:00.45*** join/#wowace Daelomdel (n=sm@c-68-58-69-83.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
20:00.51kenlyricI miss mine in a bad, deep way.
20:00.53KarlThePaganbut t2.5 is mreh for dps
20:00.53Antiarcdeltron: A friend who is in beta and is standing at the vendor ATM :)
20:01.09deltronI mostly wear 3/8 TS, hardly any earthfury anymore
20:01.13kenlyricwell, yeah, if you want dps for priests, your sets are shit :)
20:01.20GrollKarlThePagan any idea what i did wrong? :P
20:01.27kenlyricme roll priest cause me like heal.
20:01.27Grollhttp://ace.pastey.net/3516
20:01.30KarlThePaganGroll nope... that looks right
20:01.34Grollargh :P
20:01.38KarlThePaganyea :(
20:01.45AntiarcSum preests r for fite?
20:02.07kenlyricthose are called warlocks.
20:02.07KarlThePagan<--- PRIEST IS 4 SMYTE
20:02.20AntiarcShadow priests are insane in raids now, actually.
20:02.24kenlyricsmite? Ok, you get out now.
20:02.24DaelomdelAnyone able to take the time to assist me with some / commands?
20:02.27KarlThePagan1700 smite crit on live... no stacked debuffs
20:02.27kenlyricexactly.
20:02.32kenlyricshadow or heal or go away.
20:02.32ggilbertAntiarc: are those like the non dps mages?
20:02.32*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=najklord@83.145.59.23)
20:02.42AntiarcVamp Touch + Vamp Embrace + a billion shadow talents + warlocks = :O
20:02.47KarlThePagankenlyric DIAF
20:02.56deltronvamp touch is soooo awesome
20:02.58kenlyricyour smite is small and pathetic.
20:03.00Antiarcerr, +shadow damage talents.
20:03.10KarlThePaganmy smite 2-shots shadow priests
20:03.33deltronKarlThePagan: i'll roll my resto shammy against your holy priest :P
20:03.33KarlThePaganwhile they're still running towards me to try to get silence off
20:03.35AntiarcMy Mutilate two-shots holy priests. >_>
20:03.35kenlyricit only hits for 1200... how could it 2 shot?
20:03.44Goebdeltron- I hear that
20:03.46kenlyricwell, stupid priests, sure.
20:04.01Sykgaffelshadow > disc
20:04.08kenlyrichealing > *
20:04.20Josh_Borkei gotta say, the dwarf priest in t5 is FUGLY
20:04.21deltronthe new disc spirit buff is ftw
20:04.23kenlyricit just requires friends.
20:04.35deltronugh, crap, brb, gotta shut down laptop to disconnect usb drive
20:04.36deltronlames
20:05.28GoebI have to admit, the new improved spirit is real nice to have on all the casters in a raid
20:05.57Sykgaffeli managed to get the glossy texture, but how do i make grid show class color?
20:05.57Sykgaffelhttp://wow.taskman.se/WoWScrnShot_121106_194513.jpg
20:06.30SkorcherXwhat raidframes are those?
20:06.42Sykgaffelgrid
20:06.57SkorcherXahhh
20:07.01SkorcherXi always wondered
20:07.05kenlyricI can't wait to get back to my healing spec when I hit 60 again.
20:07.09SkorcherXany how what unit frames are those?
20:07.22kenlyricthough things do die nicely fast.
20:08.30paranoidihmm.. how to get all current FrameXML extracted? I'm having problems since they're not in one MPQ anymore ;P
20:08.52Sykgaffelits Grid SkorcherX
20:08.58Sykgaffelwith different texture
20:09.15Antiarcparanoidi: Use the blizzard addon kit
20:09.23KarlThePagankenlyric lololol you were saying about trans 3-pc bonus?
20:09.24SkorcherXthe whole thing? i didnt know...
20:09.25AntiarcThat extracts both the FrameXML and the various art for you.
20:09.27KarlThePaganNERFED
20:09.32HjalteSkorcherX: The raid frames is grid, i dont know what the unit frames are.
20:09.35kenlyricwhat? who? when!
20:09.39KarlThePagan2.0.3
20:09.43AntiarcIt's now a flat 20 mp/5, I believe.
20:09.47paranoidiAntiarc: oh .. I thought it was something completely different
20:09.56kenlyricI don't have those bonuses anymore, so it's not directly affecting me, but could in the future.
20:10.02kenlyricwait, what happened to 2.0.2?
20:10.18KarlThePagannew beta patch
20:10.19kenlyricand where do you get these advanced patch notes.
20:10.20Antiarc2.0.2 is what was on beta before yesterday.
20:10.25Antiarc2.0.3 is on the beta realms today.
20:10.30kenlyricmeh, beta patches day to day.
20:10.32AntiarcAnd there are no patch notes, just user-compiled notes.
20:10.52kenlyricwhat's the change to t2 3piece?
20:11.06Josh_Borkecan you get the different types of T4/T5 armor?
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20:11.15Josh_Borkeor once you pick a version that's it?
20:11.17kenlyricyes, you can.
20:11.27kenlyricunless they change that, of course :)
20:11.31AntiarcJosh_Borke: Yes, some classes ahve different sets for different roles
20:11.44AntiarcYou can redeem a token for either piece, I believe
20:11.52KarlThePaganso... I have 400 spirit... that nerf basically takes me down 20mp5 while casting
20:11.54Josh_BorkeAntiarc: i know.  i was curious if once you pick a role, are you stuck with it?
20:11.56AntiarcSo I can get shadow DPS pants, then a healing chest, then a shadow hat.
20:12.03kenlyricwhat's the nerf?
20:12.13Josh_BorkeAntiarc: so i can't have both the healing chest and the shadow chest?
20:12.19KarlThePaganflat 20 mp5 according to antiarc, but I need to see it
20:12.19AntiarcI think you can
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20:12.23AntiarcYou just need two turn-in tokens
20:12.24KarlThePaganhell i'll log on right now
20:12.25Josh_Borkei hope they keep it that way
20:12.56paranoidiAntiarc: but where can one find working one .. downloaded from official site but it does not work at all ;P
20:13.09KarlThePaganI notice the t5 dps set would be pretty good for smiters too
20:13.15KarlThePagantho it does proc off swp
20:13.17AntiarcHm, it worked for me. Maybe try through the launcher.
20:13.39Antiarchttp://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2268
20:13.47AntiarcThere's about as comprehensive a list of changes as you'll find.
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20:14.09kenlyricman, sucks, but it will mean you won't feel forced into keeping that set bonus.
20:14.11*** join/#wowace chuckg (n=chuckg@66-237-5-116.starstream.net)
20:14.24KarlThePaganyea that's good
20:14.24[dRaCo]does anybody feel like coding something like architotem for ace2? ;)
20:14.49KarlThePaganI still need to try shadowfiend
20:14.52kenlyricstill doesn't take away from a hard spirit build for healbotting.
20:14.58Josh_Borkewb Kaelten
20:15.00KarlThePaganI hope PI+trinket applies for the duration that the fiend is up
20:15.10Kaeltenello :)
20:15.37KarlThePagankenlyric - confirmed... 20 mp5 :(
20:15.41ckknighthey, Kaelten
20:15.46DaelomdelIs there a / command to clear target?
20:16.04kenlyricdamn, you know when I gto the 3 piece bonus on my priest I got like 30mana per *tick*
20:16.16KarlThePaganDaelomdel /cleartarget... lol looks like one of my ace2 mods tainted it tho
20:16.18kenlyricthat's what you call a big giant fucking nerf :)
20:16.33DaelomdelTaint!  Thata bd
20:16.59KarlThePaganI probably just need to update
20:17.33CIA-1703prandur * r20405 10FuBar_InnboundFu/FuBar_InnboundFu.toc: FuBar_InnboundFu: updated toc
20:17.50AntiarcLifegiving Gem got nerfed, too.
20:18.01KarlThePaganabout a 50% nerf for me
20:18.25CIA-1703miles * r20406 10aUF_BarFader/: Created folder for import
20:18.26Mikmanevcairiel: you fucknut, you DO use AceHook in BT3 :P so it's needed
20:19.16paranoidiwell ffs .. I need blizz codes and the dumb addon kit is failing ;P
20:19.16nevcairieli dont
20:19.30Josh_Borkeparanoidi: wdn.wowinterface.com for raw lua files
20:19.30nevcairielMikma: i use it in the barclass, and its included there. the core does not need it.
20:20.01Mikmanevcairiel: well it wasn't in anywhere when i added it, and it was giving errors before that :P
20:20.01phyberis it RosterLib causing shit while raiding?
20:20.15phybereverytimes something changes, I get a huge jump in increase rate.
20:20.20CIA-1703miles * r20407 10aUF_BarFader/ (aUF_BarFader.lua aUF_BarFader.toc): aUF_BarFader - Initial checkin of Status Bar Fader for agUF.
20:20.23nevcairielMikma: prolly when using externals it might error because i didnt add a lib
20:20.25paranoidiJosh_Borke: nice site.. thanks
20:20.26phybera few people died, big pause + 700KB/s increase.
20:20.27ckknightphyber, does RosterLib not recycle yet?
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20:20.51TuX_BuBlinghey again
20:21.18Mikmanevcairiel: it wasn't loaded anywhere, and externals were not added
20:21.45snurre-wts warlocks overaggroing all the fucking time
20:22.09neeneeHm. apparently EmoteFu is broken :(
20:22.23kergothneat, http://metalua.luaforge.net/samples/sugar.lua.html shows the things you can do with metalua.. as examples, they implement -- and ++ postfix operators and stuff
20:22.44ckknight-- and ++ are icky.
20:22.57nevcairielMikma: check the top of barclass lua, its loaded
20:23.19nevcairielMikma: Bartender3.Class.SpecialBar = AceOO.Class(Bartender3.Class.Bar, "AceHook-2.1")
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20:23.38Mikmanevcairiel: well it is now lol
20:23.59kergothckknight: well, i'm not a big fan either, i'd be happy with += and -=, which i think would be nice to have, just because currently we have no standard mechanism to add/remove in a fashion that mutates the object, afaik
20:24.19DaelomdelWhat is the / command to target last target?
20:24.23ckknightagreed, kergoth
20:24.34kergothooh, they also implement [import format, match, gsub from string]
20:24.36kergothlike python
20:24.50kergoththat makes locals for format, match, and gsub that are the fields of the string table
20:25.02ScoTTieis string.find(x, y, 1, true) the best way to do string compares ?
20:25.24kergothlocal format, match, gsub = string.format, string.match, string.gsub is bleh
20:26.09kergothfail safe dot operator.. that wouldve been handy in certain circumstances
20:26.20kergotha?.b?.c?.d evalutes to nil if b is nil :)
20:26.22TuX_BuBlingyacoob: you here?
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20:28.06FiskerI do believe C# is superior
20:28.12KarlThePagankergoth = a and b and c and d and a.b.c.d or true
20:28.17FiskerAny other inferior beliefs will be destroyed
20:28.19KarlThePaganerr or false
20:28.30FiskerOr i will be banned like hell as i have no power in here
20:28.38Dekunalol
20:28.40KarlThePaganactually forget the or
20:28.48KarlThePaganbecause you want nil
20:28.59AntiarcC# is a nice language.
20:29.09AmadeoSpeaking of C#, I think I read that Java is getting streamlined
20:29.10Amadeohehe
20:29.49KarlThePaganJava 6 performs much better than 5 on the desktop
20:30.08KarlThePaganless gui overhead finally
20:30.14AmadeoThat's good news, I hate how Java performs
20:30.26paranoidiwell the 5 was significantly faster too
20:30.36KarlThePaganlike any VM language... it's easy to screw up
20:30.39AntiarcI avoid Java apps like the plague where possible, because they just slaughter my system
20:30.44AmadeoSame, Antiar1
20:30.44AntiarcThough, it's gotten better in past years.
20:30.47Amadeo-1 +c
20:31.06AmadeoI have no problem with the quality of Java apps, just the fact that they feel so bloated
20:31.13kergothKarlThePagan: i think you mean a ~= nil and a.b ~= nil and a.b.c ~= nil and a.b.c.d
20:31.17kergothor so
20:31.31kergothstill ugly :)
20:31.41KarlThePagankergoth but that's how references are evaluated in logical statements
20:31.43kergoth?. isnt needed, but i can see why someone might want it for certain niche's
20:31.53kergothhm?
20:32.05KarlThePagannil and false evaluate to logical false
20:32.08kergothyes.
20:32.15KarlThePaganand the and operator is funny ;)
20:32.23KarlThePaganoh wait
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20:32.26KarlThePagani'm dum
20:32.42KaeltenUptime1 days 23 hours 3 min 22 s
20:32.43KaeltenStarted at2006-12-11 20:24:44
20:32.43Kaeltenabsolute (since start)
20:32.43KaeltenRequests5 Mreq
20:32.45KaeltenTraffic132.76 Gbyte
20:32.52KarlThePaganyou're right i got tripped up by it again... :P
20:32.54kergothat any rate, i'm just anal about comparison against nil to avoid false causing issues
20:33.10kergothtake function isempty(t) return not next(t) end
20:33.17phyberckknight: fyi, it seems that people in the raid who go on/offline in combat causes it.
20:33.21kergoththat breaks if the first element is false
20:33.29ckknightphyber, yea, I can see, this code is very, very inefficient
20:33.31kergothnot an issue here, was just habit
20:33.31Grinefinally! I'm not getting the static page anymore :P
20:33.37KarlThePagankergoth a and b returns a if it's nil, or b if a is non-nil
20:33.45KarlThePaganso yea
20:33.47KarlThePaganthat's right
20:34.04phyberckknight: cool :)  not sure if it would happen OOC, people only seem to DC when we fight Razorgore ;)
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20:34.50kergothtechnically we should probably test type(a) to properly report to the user in the case where a table elemnt got replaced by something other than a table, but we're taking a hypothetical a bit far :P
20:35.06kergothcourse you could be lazy and pcall it
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20:36.13thalie~dance
20:36.14purlACTION dirty dances with Dekuna ... oooooh
20:36.22kergoth~factinfo dance
20:36.22purldance -- last modified 18h 11m ago  by thalie!n=no@S0106000c41b73b37.vs.shawcable.net; it has been requested 9 times, last by thalie, 8s ago.
20:36.28thalie:)
20:36.30kergothah
20:36.30kergoth:)
20:36.33thalieyay!
20:36.38kergoth~emulate chris
20:36.40purlI never knew anyone who went crazy before, except for my invisible friend, Col. Schwartz.
20:36.52kergoth~listkeys CMD:
20:36.55AntiarcHow does emulate work?
20:37.02kergoth~burninate Antiarc
20:37.03purlACTION burninates Antiarc and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm.
20:37.06Antiarc:(
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20:37.10kergothAntiarc: its just another factoid
20:37.14kergoth~literal emulate chris
20:37.16purl"emulate chris" is "<reply> see emulate chris part 1 || <reply> see emulate chris part 2 || <reply> see emulate chris part 3"
20:37.21sylvanaarBenumbed: ping
20:37.22thalie~thalie
20:37.24purlACTION is the Spirit of Redemption.
20:37.24kergoth~literal emulate chris part 1
20:37.25purl"emulate chris part 1" is "<reply> It's partially an expression of my teenage angst...but mostly, it's a moo cow!||<reply> I never knew anyone who went crazy before, except for my invisible friend, Col. Schwartz.||<reply> There's this game where you put in a dollar and you win four quarters. I win every time!||<reply> I'm so hungry I could ride a horse. I don't ...
20:37.34thalieomg, that's a huge emulate
20:37.37Antiarc~emulate antiarc
20:37.40kergothnote the ...
20:37.43thalieyou have to write it yourself antiarc
20:37.43AntiarcSee, I have no idea how this works >_>
20:37.45AntiarcAha.
20:37.46kergothit couldnt fit the factoid into a single irc message
20:37.52thalie~emulate xuerian
20:37.54purlAh crap, I broke it again.
20:37.55kergoth~emulate kergoth
20:37.57purlACTION wields a mean spiked metal cluebat
20:38.00kergothhehe
20:38.00thaliehaha
20:38.02kergoth~botsnack
20:38.02purlaw, gee, kergoth
20:38.12thalie~dance
20:38.13purlACTION tries to breakdance, but runs into Groll and knocks him flat!
20:38.36PigBenishey guys i'm looking for a good tank addon that will display targets that aren't being tanked by a warrior
20:38.46AntiarcDear lord. I've had 21 comments on Sanity today alone. O_O
20:38.54PigBenisit will help pick up targets that aren't being tanked
20:39.04kergothmy energy ticker got rated a 1 :'(
20:39.04sylvanaar~sylvanaar
20:39.06purlyou are probably in shock
20:39.08PigBenisand maybe the target that the target is beating on
20:39.22AntiarcWhich one's that, kergoth?
20:39.24thalie~emulate mikma
20:39.25purlwith penis sized as firehose
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20:39.44kergothkenergy, the one that uses candybars
20:39.50Antiarcthat one has issues for me.
20:39.53sylvanaar~Nymbia
20:39.59kergothi wonder if stdlib has been updated recently
20:40.06AntiarcIt's all jumpy and doesn't display energy when I'm at full energy, which makes it mostly useless for timing ticks on your opener.
20:40.10CIA-1703ckknight * r20408 10RosterLib/RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua:
20:40.10CIA-17.RosterLib-2.0 - drastically improved memory issues by using a cache, properly.
20:40.10CIA-17A few other slight optimizations.
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20:40.18PigBenisdoes anyone know of an addon that will perform this functionality for me?
20:40.22ckknightphyber, please test
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20:40.31sylvanaardo i have to type emulate?
20:40.43ckknight~emulate nymbia
20:40.47Amadeokergoth: How did you get kEnergy to be accurate?
20:40.51sylvanaarlowercase ah
20:40.52kergothhmm, jumpy?  not sure what you mean by that.  i know it doesnt display when at full energy, thats in the description of the addon on wowi, not implemented yet
20:40.55dafirehi all...
20:41.01Amadeoso many factors in Energy ticks it seems
20:41.01kergothi'll play with it and see if i can reproduce the jumpiness
20:41.02AntiarcWell, it fills 20% of the way, then resets.
20:41.03ckknightsylvanaar, case doesn't matter
20:41.06ckknight~listkeys nymbia
20:41.14AntiarcI can take some FRAPS of it tonight if you'd like.
20:41.15ckknightthat'd do it, sylvanaar
20:41.19sylvanaarah
20:41.20thalieyeah, no info
20:41.25dafireanyone a idea what could change my targets in combat ? I know no addon should be able to do it but sometimes i have suddenly a friendly target
20:41.30AntiarcThe ticker just resets randomishly
20:41.40Mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7156cWnvxo <- holy f...
20:41.41kergothcurrently kenergy is rather simple, didnt want it needlessly complex, its probably naively so
20:41.51kergoththanks for letting me know the issues, hadnt gotten a real bug report
20:41.59phyberckknight: ok, will take a few minutes.  hopefully I'll see something on vael.
20:42.06ckknightokay
20:42.23kergothanyone played with lposix (not in wow, obviously)
20:42.25ckknightdid anything else get rid of its cache in the false anticipation of lua 5.1?
20:42.37Mikmastfu all and watch the video i pasted!
20:42.39AntiarcI'll try to take specific notes for you tonight, kergoth
20:42.47AntiarcIs there a preferred way you'd like bug reports made?
20:43.10thalie~love mikma
20:43.11purlIf you love mikma so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
20:43.11sylvanaarhoming pidgeon
20:43.14thalie~love thalie
20:43.16purlIf you love thalie so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
20:43.19thalieboo
20:43.48KarlThePaganMikma ... could it be a bad pseudorandom?
20:43.49kenlyricmeh, those things aren't exactly high tech. He probably just memorized it.
20:43.58Amadeohaste: hahah, the only way he could have done that is to play it enough to memorize it
20:44.01kenlyricspeed mario isn't all that fascinating for the same reason.
20:44.01sylvanaaras purl can attest i was in shock earlier - waht happend to !!!StandaloneLibraries
20:44.13sylvanaar~emulate sylvanaar
20:44.20thalie~sylvanaar
20:44.22purli heard sylvanaar is in shock
20:44.36hasteAmadeo: hmm?
20:44.49kergothAntiarc: not particularly, pestering me via irc is fine :)
20:45.01kergothmeh, too much blood in my caffeine stream
20:45.01AntiarcAlrighty. Will do.
20:45.39hastekergoth: energy regen is between 19.7 and 20.1 afaik
20:45.44MikmaKarlThePagan: who knows
20:45.49Antiarc:O
20:45.50AntiarcGrand Marshal's Maul. 45k Honor, 40 AV tokens.
20:45.50Antiarc2h Mace. 268-404 damage. 3.6 Speed
20:45.50Antiarc28 Strength/42 Stamina/Requires Level 70
20:45.51Antiarc+18 Hit Rating/+28 Crit Strike rating/+19 Resilience rating/+423 Attack Power in Cat, Bear, Dire Bear, or Moonkin forms only.
20:46.02hasteit's not 20 flat, so the chance of the regen time being dynamic is also high
20:46.06kergoth+423? jesus
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20:46.36AmadeoAntiarc: I'm not even spending my honor on the 60 stuff
20:46.37TuX_BuBlingdoes someone as noted growing memory usage with sea lib loaded?
20:46.38Amadeojust saving it for 70
20:46.55PigBenisis Tekkub around?
20:47.37yacoobTuX_BuBling, not really.
20:48.07CIA-1703jncl * r20409 10Skinner/ (Skinner.lua options.lua): Skinner: Fix error with Tooltips, GroupLott and ChatEditBox not remembering their settings; Changed Viewport and Middleframe color options
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20:48.53kergothChunkBake is a Lua 5 binary chunk assembler written entirely in Lua, with output customizable for different platforms. -- iiinteresting
20:49.03hasteoh noes, he edited the GroupLott frames!
20:49.07kergothi presume it lets you code at the lua vm instruction level
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20:49.46mAydieH
20:49.49hasteH
20:49.49mAydieHi*
20:49.52mAydie:p
20:50.07ckknightkergoth, luaJIT is a pretty interesting project, imo
20:50.28kergothagreed
20:50.39KarlThePagancoolness
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20:51.00kergothi find it more interesting from the perspective of the optimization pipeline than the fact that it does JIT compilation
20:51.05PigBenishey guys PerfectTargets says, 'MT's initials are appended to the end of the frame' I haven't been able to get this to work. Do I need to be using oRA for this function to work, does anyone know?
20:51.09kergothperformance improvements there
20:51.12thalie~bday thalie
20:51.13purlACTION jumps out from his hiding place and screams HAPPY BIRTHDAY thalie!!!
20:51.21KarlThePaganwell that's what JIT *is*
20:51.47KarlThePagana compiler that turns things into native code when they're frequently used
20:51.55KarlThePaganerr VM interpreter
20:53.01Josh_BorkeAntiarc: this tokenizer returns a function ><
20:53.03thaliecrush deltron
20:53.07thalie~crush deltron
20:53.08purlACTION crushes deltron with a full height scsi disk
20:53.13TuX_BuBling<yacoob> TuX_BuBling, not really << my memory problem, comes from the Sea library from Cosmos to make MobileFrames working
20:53.20deltronoh noes
20:53.36deltronhehe i had a few full height scsi disks
20:53.41deltronthey were like 4lbs each
20:53.48AntiarcJosh_Borke: If I read it right, then you get the function via tokenize() and then each call to it will return the next token from the string.
20:54.08Josh_Borkehm
20:54.10AntiarcSo if you have "this is a string" and tokenize on space, then tokenize(str) returns a function, let's say assigned to "foo"
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20:54.18Antiarcprint foo() -- "this"
20:54.20Antiarcprint foo() -- "is"
20:54.23Antiarcprint foo() -- "a"
20:54.24kenlyricoh blessed, kc_items just recommended an auction price. I'm in heaven.
20:54.26Antiarcprint foo() -- "string"
20:54.29AntiarcLike so.
20:54.29dudevon~xloot
20:54.30purlXLoot is the source of Xuerian's insomnia, and incidentally, a complete replacement for blizzard's loot frame, info @ ss's http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6347-XLoot.html ... Snapshot at http://wowace.com/files/XLoot/XLoot.zip
20:54.33nevcairiel(21:46:05) (@kergoth) +423? jesus <-- there is a 1h mace with over 500, cenarion expedition exalted.
20:54.41ckknightAntiarc, can't you do that with gmatch?
20:54.44Josh_BorkeAntiarc: i love you
20:54.49Josh_Borkefiguratively that is ;-)
20:54.56Antiarcckknight: Sure, but Josh was asking about http://wowi.pastey.net/2143-240t
20:55.02AntiarcWhich is a quote tokenizer, I think.
20:55.12ckknightfor str in ("this is a string"):gmatch("[^%s]+") do print(str) end
20:55.24CIA-1703rabbit * r20410 10Grid/GridStatusAuras.lua: Grid: GridStatusAuras: Syntax love.
20:55.28ckknightand no closures needed
20:55.34AntiarcBut that's for strings
20:55.41Josh_Borkeckknight: can you make it work for quoted strings too?
20:55.45AntiarcNot quoted substrings, which is what Josh's code does
20:55.50ckknightJosh_Borke, I've done that before
20:55.59ckknighthard to do with lua's patterns
20:56.09AntiarcWhich is probably the reason for the closure solution ;)
20:56.13Josh_Borkeyea
20:56.53ckknightactually, that's pretty cool
20:57.06ckknightbut you can't have two closures at once, it seems
20:57.15Aeliel[20:55:01] <nevcairiel> (21:46:05) (@kergoth) +423? jesus <-- there is a 1h mace with over 500, cenarion expedition exalted. <--- there's also a staff that's higher than that mace (which is 2h mace btw) :p
20:57.28ckknightseeing as the locals are used in the function
20:57.29nevcairielhm
20:57.35nevcairieli am pretty sure it was 1h
20:57.41ckknightphyber, tested Roster-2.0 yet?
20:57.48Aelielhttp://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=13907 - the mace
20:57.56Josh_Borkeckknight: it's a modified version that doesn't create a closure every call?
20:57.57Vegetadoes anyone know if the Bartender3 Issues were fixed ?
20:58.06phyberckknight: yeah, just finished the fight, nobody got disconnected though.
20:58.06ckknightJosh_Borke, that doesn't make a closure every call.
20:58.07Aelielhttp://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=16303 - the staff I was thinking of
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20:58.10kergothKarlThePagan: you clearly missed the point.  i won't bother acting surprised.
20:58.21ckknightJosh_Borke, it returns itself, not a copy of itself
20:58.25phyberckknight: so far so good though.  after the fight, I noticed GCInFu was counting backwards.  haven't seen that before.
20:58.36phybergarbage was being collected, it looked funny ;)
20:58.37Josh_Borkeisn't that why it can only be used one at a time?
20:58.41ckknightphyber, ah.
20:58.50ckknightJosh_Borke, right.
20:58.59ckknightJosh_Borke, it can be "fixed" if need be
20:59.00thalie~borked
20:59.01purlmethinks borked is "has been touched by josh_borke"
20:59.01ckknightwith madness.
20:59.32Mikma:D
20:59.54AntiarcHas anyone experienced issues with SecureActionButton:SetAttribute() incurring a heavy memory cost?
21:00.07Josh_Borkeckknight: http://wowi.pastey.net/2109 is the original
21:00.20AntiarcFour calls to it bumped my gcinfo() by 2kb, and then do that in a loop 20 times...
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21:00.45Eternally777you mean your 'collectgarbage("count")
21:00.46Fiskercan anyone get blizzard to change twins back? LL:I
21:00.54axxoFisker: what changed?
21:00.55Eternally777since 'gcinfo()' is deprecated
21:00.59AntiarcOh, is it?
21:01.00Antiarc>_>
21:01.03Fiskernot a spellcast but a buff
21:01.05[GsoZ]Bordeausanyone here who have unsed lua2il any time?
21:01.07kergothchunkbake is cool.  quite nice being able to test manual optimizations at the vm instruction level without having to do it programmatically from C
21:01.10Fiskerand is barely detected by anyone
21:01.10AntiarcIgnore that, and I'll check into it tonight :D
21:01.17Eternally777:)
21:02.58Fiskermy brain is like melting from timing it myself
21:05.29hasteah, guild vent. The raid leader goes: "My mother came in and said the funniest thin.." then another member goes: "Are you the same size as your dad?"
21:05.56FiskerHEHE
21:07.23thalieahahahha
21:08.21Amadeorofl
21:08.22Amadeohttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7097932503017430512&q=arena+pvp&hl=en
21:12.02Tullerbleh, they apparenly made PickupBagFromSlot secure
21:12.07Amadeogood thing they nerfed Mace spec
21:12.09Grinebleh I need a guide to RGB colors...
21:12.11Q65k hit??
21:12.15Amadeothat Warrior might have killed the Mage
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21:12.35Q6i got a 4800 frosbolt cir in bg the otherday i was grr i hate mages
21:13.08BapsI'm a decently geared mage and the biggest crit I've ever gotten on a frostbolt is around 2100
21:13.18BapsWTF am I doing wrong?!@?  =)
21:13.50Q6thus why im rerolling my priest.
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21:14.47Silviu-I crit a soulfire for 5k and i`m shadow specced with my warlock
21:14.50Silviu-coe and trinket
21:14.56Silviu-no zerk buff etc or warri
21:14.58Silviu-:)
21:15.11thaliedid someone say that auctioneer had been updated to 2.0?
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21:15.27cheersthalie: they're intending to update... I thought it would be another week or so, though?
21:15.36kenlyricthe alpha seems to work.
21:15.44thalieah, ok its only an alpha
21:15.45thaliekewl
21:15.47kenlyricbut I got what I want out of kc_items, so fudge it!
21:15.57thalieken: glad to hear it ;)
21:15.57cheerslol
21:16.08Kaelten:P
21:16.13thaliei guess my fix worked lol
21:17.03deltronthalie: yes, grab the alpha
21:17.04kenlyricyes indeedy.
21:17.11deltronoops
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21:17.28kenlyricI still miss knowing how much quest rewards are worth before I choose, but that's a small thing.
21:17.38snurre-lol, beat all rogues on anub'rekhan.. as prot
21:17.55[dRaCo]I need a decent totem mod. :/
21:18.01deltron[dRaCo]: call of elements
21:18.01phyberckknight: it's still there.  MT disconnected in the Supression Room and it happened.
21:18.18Kongohlep, i'm using ag_unitframes and can't see my rage bar, just the text
21:18.18deltron[dRaCo]: i used to use about 3 totem mods before I got that one
21:18.24cheersmy guys use gotWood or something like that
21:18.29ckknightphyber, that doesn't make sense, maybe it's not Roster-2.0 doing it then.
21:18.29deltronKongo: silly, warriors don't generate rage
21:18.40Kongo:(
21:18.42deltronlol
21:18.42ckknightsince I keep a very strict watch on table creation there
21:18.49Goebdeltron- coe works in 2.0?!
21:18.52[dRaCo]I tried gotWood, I didn't like it
21:18.58phyberckknight: maybe :/  I also get an increase of 15-17KB/s when doing nothing at all in a raid, since the patch.  wish i knew what caused it.
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21:19.01Sole|sleepghi
21:19.04deltronGoeb: yes, it's a "continued" version
21:19.06uszckknight, are you aware if anyone got problems with AceComm and sending whisper messages that cause instant DC?
21:19.12ckknightyes, usz
21:19.12[dRaCo]used ArchiTotem before, but there's no v2 so far
21:19.23ckknightusz, currently unfixable.
21:19.28Goebdeltron- wow... works fine?  I'm there...
21:19.31deltroni used to use architotem and totemtimers
21:19.31uszow k, thought i am only one, thanks for the info
21:19.33Goebcoe is the best
21:19.34ckknightmaybe I should just disable that.
21:19.52uszkk, will remove all whisper routing from my addons temporary
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21:20.14Mikmahttp://www.strangepuzzle.com/download.php?videoName=master-magic%20JimmyColl%202.47.wmv
21:20.19[dRaCo]call of elements is to bloated imo
21:20.25[dRaCo]and not ace2 ;)
21:21.19kergothcoe is bloated, but its the best totembars i've seen to date
21:21.19kergothhttp://covenant.kergoth.com/printf.lst :) i love chunkspy
21:21.19Bapsit's certainly quite flexible
21:21.19cheers[dRaCo]: did you see the new shammie spell to dismiss your totems?
21:21.35[dRaCo]no, I didn't o0
21:21.38kergothooh, dismissing totems?
21:21.39[dRaCo]what's its name?
21:21.50deltroncheers: whoa where
21:21.54cheershaha
21:21.56cheershang on lemme get a link
21:22.13deltron[dRaCo]: trust me, call of elements is 100% worth it
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21:22.29cheershttp://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1861019&sid=1
21:22.38[dRaCo]I don't like the idea of the advisor... can it be disabled?
21:22.44cheersTotemic Call -- returns your totems to the earth giving you 25% of hte mana back
21:22.44kergothyes
21:22.47kergothit can, draco
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21:23.03kergothcheers: sweet, no more totem aggro from old ones left behind
21:23.08cheerskergoth: tell me about it ;)
21:23.20cheers"omg abev, recast earth!! you're gonna pull more drakes on us!"
21:23.26kergothhehe
21:23.52deltronhehe
21:23.56deltronkergoth: you got a shammy too?
21:24.31deltronehh
21:24.36Q6check out this movie, good storyline. won awards. http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=32962
21:24.37kergothyeah, my shammy was my first 60
21:24.37kenlyricuh, does that scale with how long the totems have been out?
21:24.45deltronoh nice
21:24.48cheerskenlyric: not that it says.. just 25% of the casting cost
21:24.55kenlyriccould you just cast that on every single totem just as it's dying?
21:24.57cheersso theoretically you could nuke em just before they expire
21:24.59deltronkergoth: on suramar?
21:25.02cheersi think it's a mass nuke.
21:25.06cheerszaps all your totems.
21:25.13kergothyup, he's still in my old guild currently, BoD.  almost never play him
21:25.13cheersthat's what the wording implies anyway
21:25.21kergothwith the expansion i'll probably start though
21:25.27deltronah
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21:25.41cheerskergoth: earthen shield is some kind of crazy
21:25.42deltronkergoth: 2.0 made playing a shaman fun again
21:25.48dreamss22word
21:25.52dreamss22dw is fun too
21:25.52navvearth shield is imba
21:25.55kergothi was the grownup guild shammy class officer back before the guild fell apart
21:25.57deltroni <3 earth shield
21:26.00deltronwtf is imba?
21:26.03cheersimbalanced
21:26.05kergothimbalanced
21:26.06deltronoh
21:26.28kergothi was astounded the first time i played with a 68 shammy in beta, busting out elementals and shit
21:26.31kergothgood stuff
21:26.33dreamss22i hear of 600-700 es ticks with zhc
21:27.05cheersdreamss22: one of the guys in my guild, his favorite trick is to zhc stream of life... he's gotten the thing ot tick for over 100
21:27.06deltronI need a new 1h before I try DW on my shammy
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21:27.22deltronzandalarian hero charm?
21:27.23dreamss22im using hwl set
21:27.24cheersyeah
21:27.27thaliemorning ag
21:27.29dreamss22wl set and 2x cleavers
21:27.31dreamss22is nuts
21:27.35cheerslol
21:27.36dreamss22my wf rits for 1000 dmg
21:27.41cheersgeeze
21:27.44dreamss22and my swing timer is down to 2.2
21:27.47ag`vhaarr:
21:27.48cheersyeah I had a PALADIN like 3-shot me the other day
21:27.51deltronhah nice
21:27.54cheerscouldn't believe it
21:27.54ag`thought of a good name yet? :P
21:27.55deltrondude
21:27.56vhaarrag`:
21:27.59thaliepallies lay it down
21:28.00vhaarrag`: DrWhack
21:28.02deltroni'm stunlocked by paladins now :(
21:28.04deltronit's not cool
21:28.08cheersdeltron: yeah
21:28.20cheersthe stun went from "only thing making them playable" to "bloody ridiculous"
21:28.21cheers:/
21:28.25LoSti|AfkHmm...when i Join a BG my Combatlog (Simplecombatlog) is gone and comes back after a Relog wtf is that any ideas? :)
21:28.27Mikmahmm now that's a good talent, call off your totems
21:28.27vhaarrag`: thoughts?
21:28.42Mikmathere has been several times that my shamans totems have aggroed more mobs that was needed hehe
21:28.47[dRaCo]is there a date for 2.0.3 yet?
21:28.49cheersMikma: looks like it's a base ability?
21:29.06Mikmacheers: yes
21:29.09Mikmalvl30
21:29.19dreamss22i need a totem timer addon
21:29.20dreamss22:(
21:29.20deltronMikma: I aggro'd vael with my totems :(
21:29.21cheersoh I see. I misunderstood what you meant by "talent" there :)
21:29.28cheersdeltron: damn, that's leet
21:29.30cheers;)
21:29.36deltronI think it's wipe #20 or so i've caused hehe
21:29.37Bapsdreamss: chronometer or gotwood
21:29.44ckknight[dRaCo], when TBC comes out, afaik
21:29.46cheershaha
21:30.02dreamss22i think (dunno for sure) but candybar was making me disc
21:30.03deltrondreamss22: get call of elements
21:30.04dreamss22dunno
21:30.08deltronsrsly
21:30.20vhaarrag`: Want me to check in?
21:30.31ag`I did a base addon
21:30.41ag`I can't do anything yet
21:30.53dreamss22well im still fuckin with my interface
21:31.00vhaarrag`: Want another name?
21:31.03Mikmaoh yeah sorry, skill not talent
21:31.03dreamss22i log in and the blizz bars are all over the screen
21:31.06cheerssounds scary, kergoth
21:31.10Grineag`, add my compact.lua ;)
21:31.20PProvostckknight, I'm getting asked about !!!StandaloneLibs wrt WAU. Are they gone? Is there a post about it somewhere?
21:31.28ag`vhaarr: I like your name
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21:31.32ckknightKaelten, deal with !!!StandaloneLibs
21:31.42vhaarrag`: okay, cool
21:31.45thalieag: name for what :)
21:31.46PProvostI just need it explained so I can explain it.
21:31.51Mikmaag`: aguf semicrashes my wow if player joins party while in combat :( FIX IT!
21:31.56[dRaCo]alright, I'll give CoE a try... the continued version is the only usable version, isn't it?
21:31.59ckknightPProvost, Kaelten controls all that
21:32.05PProvostCool. Thanks ckk
21:32.09ag`Mikma: Mmm
21:32.20Mavackall standalonelibs is was a heap of folders
21:32.24ag`scale problem Mikma ?
21:32.28Mikmaag`: while I'M in combat I mean
21:32.32ag`vhaarr: did you make some code yet?
21:32.37cheersag`: while we're talking about aguf -- you know anything about priest MC while using aguf & not getting pet bars?
21:32.40PProvostMavack, yes and it worked perfectly for the WAU users.
21:32.42Mikmaag`: didn't have time to look at it, was in combat :P but will test it tomorrow
21:32.57vhaarrag`: yes
21:33.06ag`cheers: I have a priest myself but I haven't tested it yet
21:33.11cheersag`: I have
21:33.14ag`I rarely mind control
21:33.15cheersag`: no pet bars.
21:33.20Mavackif you learn your libs it's easy to just select them if need be else you can pull the old standalonelibs from the svn
21:33.25cheersI killed us earlier this week
21:33.28ag`action bars or unit frame
21:33.33cheersag`: unit frames
21:33.37cheerswait
21:33.38cheerswha?
21:33.44Mavackpet bars is a bliz problem
21:33.56ag`vhaarr: commit it
21:34.05cheersMavack: any work arounds? or am I boned?
21:34.20vhaarrag`: I'd rather not, do you have a private SVN somewhere? I know pasta and maia did for Grid.
21:34.21cheers(my current work around involves disabling my unit frames for grand widow  & instructor :/
21:34.25Mavacklearn the keyboard shortcuts for the skillz and setup macros
21:34.33ag`vhaarr: afraid not :(
21:34.47vhaarrag`: well it's not ready yet by far anyway, so there's nothing to see.
21:34.48ag`google projects vhaarr ?
21:34.58thalieteh svn ees broken
21:35.00ag`I know, but I would like to be able to code tomorrow
21:35.01cheersMavack: yeah... that's how I wiped us,  ctrl-4, which is default to teh skils is rebound to holy nova on my setup ;)
21:35.03ag`:)
21:35.07kergothwhy would you want a private svn?  so people dont whine about it when it doesnt work?
21:35.18cheerskergoth: exactly! ;0
21:35.39kergothi just tell them to fuck off and continue coding
21:35.40kergothbut thats me..
21:35.40cheerslol
21:35.40andremarany way to get character info to not show everything in one bank and one bags window, but split it up into bags?
21:35.49Mavackcheers keybindings should be in the keybindings setup as well so you can set them up
21:35.51nevcairielhide it in some funny branch
21:36.00[dRaCo]CoE needs chronos :/
21:36.00cheersMavack: yeah, I found em, eventually
21:36.05CIA-17ow
21:36.29cheersit just kinda sucks, ya know?
21:36.30Mavackcheers: macro it up on a 2nd bar or something if u really need buttons :)
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21:36.41Grine./sigh I hate moving frames with /reloadui...
21:37.08cheersMavack: nah, it was just a matter of not having anythign to click & the key being unbound 'cuz i use the combo for other stuff, soI had no way to blow up my worshipper
21:37.22Mavackcheers: i know it's a pain in the arse, i'm a hunter and my pet frame randomly appears and vanishs when it feels like it
21:37.28cheersoooooh
21:37.30cheersterrible
21:37.42kenlyricis the pet frame in the party also a blizzard problem?
21:37.54Mavackpet unit frame?
21:37.56cheers*nod*
21:37.58Q6anyone else have  a bug with aguf when moving a frame, it gets stuck to your cursor and the only way to unstuck it is to /reloadui or relog?
21:38.03kenlyriccurse you blizzard!
21:38.07cheersQ6: Iv'e seen that one
21:38.13Mavacki dont have a prob with the pet unit frame
21:38.18Lopenq6, i had that happen last night
21:38.20cheerskenlyric: I was agreeing w/ Mav
21:38.31cheersMavack: I don't see pet frames in party, nor is there an option to show them
21:38.32Q6I think it only happens when people enter/leave raids
21:38.47cheersQ6: that could explain it
21:38.52Mavackcheers using ag?
21:38.59cheersMavack: yessir
21:39.19Mavackcheers: works fine for me you sure you have pets enabled under yourself?
21:39.20kenlyricI don't see pets for party members at all.
21:39.32kenlyricI turn it off and on, and nothing shows up, anywhere.
21:39.37cheersMavack: I'm @ work, so I can't check, but that may be the issue...
21:39.46PProvostAnyone have a link to changes in the TOC format?
21:40.39Arjorguys am i the only one who's getting an error with agu_rangecheck ?
21:40.40Arjorhttp://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot121306223807jg1.jpg
21:41.00Mavacki still have a problem with aguf you can't right click and duel people calls protected function that blizz blocked
21:41.16cheersyeah
21:41.22cheers./duel works though
21:41.24cheersso meh
21:41.27Arjorye
21:41.29Mavackyeah thats what i've been doing
21:41.30Arjor./duel
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21:41.48Mavacki forget every 2nd day thou
21:41.52cheerslol
21:42.03Q6Arjori dont think rangecheck works for 2.0 yet
21:42.13Mavackand i have a tendency not to read dialogs and just go to click ok which is disable in this case
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21:42.29cheerslol
21:42.31cheersoops ;)
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21:42.49[dRaCo]coe lost. no "bottom cast"
21:43.03Sizzanyone know how to fix bartender to make it work with the bagbar and stance bar? everytime i try to change style i get an error in Cycircled (which isn't skinning either of them)
21:43.06JakobudGrid's buildin rangecheck works great
21:43.18Azurewrathyou mean like.. "Do you want to install BigTits.exe?" -> OK *click*
21:43.18Stavmararjor: what font are you using in your UI?
21:43.19cheersgrid is intimidating...
21:43.35Jakobudno its simple
21:43.40kergothgrid is sexy and sleek
21:43.43Jakobudon frills healing window
21:43.47Jakobudno* frills
21:43.49cheershehe
21:43.53Arjorclearfont
21:43.56cheersI fear change, sue me ;)
21:44.04kergothhehe
21:44.08Q6i try to get use to it.. but i still like srf better
21:44.09Jakobudyou should try it out man, its good i'm telling you
21:44.11cheersI like long skinny health bars
21:44.15Stavmarwhat font specifically
21:44.19cheersand the abliity to read the names
21:44.30Q6yes name reading is a life saver.
21:44.32cheers'cuz when my boyfriend is yelling "save me" and i can't figure out which little blue square is his...
21:44.33Jakobudlol cheers, you know you can change the height and width and layout of the Grid healthbars right?
21:44.35kergothcheers: afaik grid has a horizonal mode
21:44.36Q6some people i just dont like.
21:44.41cheerskergoth: ah?
21:44.50cheersQ6: that too ;)
21:44.51kenlyricso, i'm the only one with this pet problem... maybe an update in the past couple days caused/fixed it.
21:45.08kergothalso, theres a grid module to highlight certain individuals somewhere.. i know theres a guild one, not sure if theres one for other stuff
21:45.12kergothyou'd think so
21:45.15kenlyriccheers, just make your boyfriend your focus target :)
21:45.20Q6dang my ui is at 40mb i mod to much
21:45.28DaelomdelIs there a comprehensive list somewhere of all of the available / commands?
21:45.37cheerskenlyric: reading up on macro stuff I see mention of /focus, but I don't understand what it is, or what it does...?
21:46.09kenlyricjust type /focus boyfriend and see what happens.
21:46.10kergothcheers: its another unitframe, not unlike target.  you can set your focus to the person you're healing and your target to the mob, or vice versa, or set focus to the mob you're keeping sheeped/seduced while you target the enemy, or whatever
21:46.13StavmarArjor: which font within Clearfont are you using?
21:46.29cheerskergoth: ooooooh
21:46.34cheersso I can /focus the dude I'm shackling
21:46.38kergothindeed
21:46.39cheersand de-target to heal?
21:46.42ArjorStavmar: i got it working by restarting the game
21:46.52cheersand then, when the guild trys to assassinate me, i can retarget it, easy?
21:46.59cheers(and they do try to assassinate me *cry*)
21:47.02CIA-1703pprovost * r20411 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (!!!StandaloneLibraries.toc README DAMNIT.txt README.txt): !!!StandaloneLibraries - Created 'dummy' TOC file and updated/renamed the readme file.
21:47.09kergothfocus is very nice for CC
21:47.10JakobudFocus is like being able to 'save' a unit frame up on the screen and target other things in the meantime, but always be able to see the focus's health/mana and use him in any sort of scripts or macros without changing your current target
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21:47.19Q6i just use clique, no need to have a target.
21:47.22cheerssexy
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21:47.30StavmarArjor: huh?
21:47.34kergothhmm
21:47.43kergothwhy dont i have write access to stdlib cvs on luaforge yet
21:47.46ArjorNM m8
21:47.47kergothi should fix that
21:47.53cheersclique is growing on me, but I/m not 100% sure about it
21:47.55Aelielcheers: /cast [target=focus] Shackle Undead (or whatever the spell is) will always shackle your focus target, without detargeting whatever you're targeting currently
21:47.57cheersdefinately for decursing
21:48.04cheers!!!
21:48.15StavmarArjor: RangeCheck was updated today and seems to be working fine as of right now?
21:48.15jalexhigginsIs there a way to set focus using lua and not a macro script?
21:48.29Q6i have 5 mouse buttons + shift. makes it 10 mosue buttons i can assign for healing. To me. I love it. I dont have to keep my hand on the kb
21:48.38Jakobudthere is a hotkey in the default keybindings "set focus"
21:48.54thalieas a priest i have a macro to focus and shackle
21:49.11cheersthalie: I'll have to make one up :)
21:49.14Arjori got it working
21:49.14thalieit's not hard
21:49.25cheersnah
21:49.36PProvostcheers, I use it for all my druid healing/decurse/depoison stuff. It is great.
21:49.39thalieand if focus exists, use existing focus and shackle
21:49.48Jakobudi just have a hotkey "SHIFT-F" to set my focus, if I press SHIFT-F while having something targeted it will make that target my focus, if I dont have anything targeted, SHIFT-F will remove my focus
21:50.16Q6you all think 40mb is too much for an ui? and i dont even have lootlink/auctioneer.
21:50.26PProvostSounds like a lot
21:50.32Jakobudmine is 17 megs
21:50.34PProvostI only go over 40 when I load Auctioneer
21:50.34andremarthalie: mind sharing?
21:50.39Q6my ui folder is only 21mb, but in the game it says 40
21:50.47PProvostIgnore folder side
21:50.48kergothmine starts at 26 or so, spiking to like 50 when auc loads
21:50.49PProvostsize
21:50.52PProvostThat doesn't matter
21:51.15PProvostI'm a little less than kergoth but basically the same
21:51.22Q6im not even sure whats taking it all up
21:51.24PProvostAnd I run almost 100 mods
21:51.35Q6i was running 25mb before the patch
21:51.57kergoth/media/crydee/f/Games/tbc/Interface/AddOns$ /bin/ls|grep -v Blizzard_|wc -l
21:51.57kergoth251
21:51.58kergoth:(
21:52.03kenlyricI was at about 90 before the patch.
21:52.21neeneemine is 40-50-ish, but I run Auctioneer
21:52.23kenlyricwith a full lootlink and auctioneer loaded, during a raid I'd push over 100.
21:52.33CIA-1703alastair * r20412 10FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu/ (Core.lua StunTimerFu.lua):
21:52.33CIA-17FuBar_RogueStunTimerFu:
21:52.33CIA-17-Now dosent load if not a rogue, toggable option
21:52.33CIA-17-Now should only do your stuns and have stopped an error when others around you stun
21:52.33neeneeI use linkerator instead of lootlink though
21:52.47Q6What would be better for sake of memory? / Load times? Libs within the addon/ folder or libs with in the addonnames folder addons/ag_unitframes/libs
21:53.10kergothQ6: wont make a difference.  either way the libs that are needed get loaded.
21:53.23PProvostUltimately one of your addons is allocating an ass load of memory
21:53.37PProvostAddons that keep large SVs are a good first look.
21:53.42Q6I like it clean, before the patch I had all the libs in !!!libs now everything is in addons/ making it a huge folder.
21:53.46PProvostThose with leaks are harder to find...
21:53.54PProvostIgnore the folder size
21:53.56PProvostIt doesnt' matter
21:53.57Jakobudit doesnt matter Q6
21:53.57yacoobkergoth, holy! 251?!?
21:54.09kergothstandalone libs
21:54.10kenlyricyeah, any mod with a 10mb SV is just going to play hell when it loads.
21:54.12kergothLod bigwigs modules
21:54.14kergothetc
21:54.15PProvostYeah, I wanna see kergoth's addons list
21:54.34Goebdamn, I'm down to 182 :)
21:54.35JakobudQ6: if you have 20 different copies of the same library in your addons folder, that library will only get loaded once
21:55.19vhaarrthat's not true
21:55.23vhaarrIt will get loaded 20 times.
21:55.31Goebsorta
21:55.33Jakobudthe 'size' of an addon doesn't matter, its how much information it loads into memory that matters, ie. the info it saves for you in your WTF folder, but still folder size still has nothing to do with how much memory an addon is going to use
21:55.35snirkswont it juts get read 20 times?
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21:55.40Goebthe stub will get loaded 20 times
21:55.41snirkslike, parsed
21:55.50Q6mk:)
21:56.05snirksfolder size only matters when you log into the world
21:56.07kergothGoeb: hm? in the case of ace2 libs, the stub is acelibrary.
21:56.09Jakobudyes true it will get read 20 times, but for 19 of those times its going to say "oh this is already loaded? okay I'm skipping this one then"
21:56.16Goebkerg- yar
21:56.17snirkscutting down folder size should improve 1st time logging in
21:56.27vhaarrJakobud: no
21:56.27snirksbut not performance when in the game
21:56.41vhaarrafaik, Lua doesn't load line by line.
21:56.48vhaarrSo it loads the entire file.
21:56.48Jakobudisnt that why at the beginning of each library it checks to see if it exists?
21:56.55Goebembedded libs take forever to load when you have 200 addons...
21:57.00yacoobJakobud, it will get loaded 20 times, then purged on first gc
21:57.02vhaarrAnd then, at the next GC, it will be thrown away if not in use.
21:57.09kergoththe entire file will be read into ram, compiled into a function, and executed.  that function will exit right away in 19 of the cases, and the chunk will then be freed
21:57.13kergothyea
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21:57.26cheerslol
21:57.28vhaarr"then" can be a little while later
21:57.30vhaarryacoob: :P
21:57.31Goebkerg- oh... crap I didn't realize it went all the way with it
21:57.42Barbanusso the initial mem usage will spike?
21:57.45vhaarryes
21:57.47Barbanusand then the GC will chuck it
21:57.48Goeboh yeah
21:57.50Barbanusand it will fall?
21:57.51vhaarrConsiderably.
21:58.01BarbanusYea, that makes sense.
21:58.19cheershey kergoth: have you heard of anything to keep track of how long your hot's have been on a target?
21:58.27kergothsomeone should write a gc monitor addon that attempts to detect if the incremental gc is failing to be aggressive enough to keep up with the allocations
21:58.45PProvostcheers, you mean Chronometer?
21:58.48kergothcheers: chronometer shows timer bars for your hots, i'm sure there are others
21:58.58PProvostChron works foem
21:59.01cheersPProvost: I dunno if that's what I mean ;)
21:59.01PProvost*for me
21:59.03snirksis there a way to get a list of addons
21:59.03CIA-1703ckknight * r20413 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
21:59.03CIA-17.AceTab-2.0 -
21:59.03CIA-17changed string.method(str, ...) into str:method(...)
21:59.03CIA-17When hooking the ChatFrameEditBox frame, it instead hooks ChatEdit_CustomTabPressed, as well as not doing any tab completion unnecessarily at the beginning.
21:59.05kergothfor those curious about my addons, see http://covenant.kergoth.com/projects/kergwow/browser/trunk/AddOns
21:59.10kergothbrowser for the trac for my addon set svn
21:59.12DaelomdelIs there a slash command to target last target?
21:59.20snirksis there a way to get a list of addons' resourcehogging from most to least?
21:59.21PProvostcheers, Chronometer is timer bars for YOUR *OT casts
21:59.25ckknight<PROTECTED>
21:59.29snirksa visual presentation
21:59.44snirkssoy ou could see which uses most resources
21:59.51PProvostsnirks, not really
21:59.56cheersPProvost: sweet. doe sit handle things like VE that aren't exactly dots or hots, but still havea duration on a target?
21:59.58kergothadd sorting to warmup
21:59.59tlundis Moonsorrow here in the channel, under some other nick?
22:00.07PProvostVE?
22:00.11Grogglesanyone know of a good enemy castbar mod?
22:00.12cheersVamperic Embrace
22:00.19*** part/#wowace Lopen (n=Lopen_@207.74.131.208)
22:00.20PProvostNot sure. I'm not a priest. :)
22:00.20Bapscheers: it handles things like sunders and totems..
22:00.23Bapsso I'd expect it to
22:00.25kergothcheers: chronometer shows justa bout everything. as a rogue, it shows my stuns, rupture, s&d, etc
22:00.29PProvostYou can look in the spells file and see if it is there.
22:00.31cheers<3
22:00.35Barbanussnirks, the best option I think to that is !!Warmup
22:00.37PProvostIt probably is
22:00.42snirksBarbanus: thanks
22:00.44snirksProphy: thanks
22:00.44BarbanusShows you memusage, and loadtime per mod
22:00.46PProvostAnd if it isn't, you should add it.
22:00.54snirkskergoth: thanks
22:01.01cheersPProvost: aw, you wnt me to learn lua? but i'm lazy! ;)
22:01.04snirksPProvost: thanks to you i mean
22:01.13PProvostBut as Tekkub reminds us all... Warmup can be misleading if you don't understand how Ace2 stuff loads.
22:01.19tlundI was looking at XRS, but i feel that one thing is missing, that rdx5 has, its the "here" bar, where you can see how many people have arrived back at the pull-place after a whipe, and are not standing inside the instance entrance slacking off...
22:01.27BarbanusPProvost, of course :)
22:01.31kergothlua's easy, thats why so many gaming companies adopt it.  easy for their UI folks to script behavior with it
22:01.54cheerskergoth: yeah yeah :P
22:01.59Bapslua also presents a pretty good sandbox
22:02.11Bapsso you can't easily crash the overall app from within it
22:02.18snirksPProvost: im not so concerned about the ace2 stuff, its more the nonace stuff i have i want to chart
22:02.33kergothmy assigned task at work atm is to.. research.  fun fun
22:02.42cheerskergoth: :P
22:03.07cheerskergoth: I'm still the only engineer on my project >.<
22:03.31kergoth:(
22:03.38cheershehe tell me about it
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22:03.54kergothomniweb uses taht apple thingy based on khtml, doesnt it?
22:03.58kergothmy memory fails me, as usual
22:03.59cheerswebkit
22:04.00cheersyeah
22:04.07PProvostsnirks, sometimes the best way is to get a baseline, then disable it and relog and see where you stand.
22:04.09kergothwebkit, thats what i couldnt remember
22:04.10kergothcool
22:04.24CIA-1703neriak * r20414 10Fence/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
22:04.24CIA-17Fence:
22:04.24CIA-17- added missing string.format's in Clicks options
22:04.24CIA-17- each module now unhooks its stuff when disabled
22:05.17Mavacklua is great i just dont think blizz relised the extend of some players inginuity
22:05.18kergothheh, i bet i forgot, with kenergy, to consider exactly how much energy was received in the UNIT_ENERGY (the starting point of the tick), so its resetting from combat potency :P
22:05.20PProvostI would love to see what the heck kergoth and you others are running that get you up to near (or over) 200 mods.
22:05.23kergothi knew it was naive
22:05.25BarbanusIs the Henge author around?
22:05.28CIA-1703nymbia * r20415 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua:
22:05.28CIA-17GrindStatus:
22:05.28CIA-17- Fix for faction scanning problems. Again. ...Often.
22:05.29snirkswarmup only measures ace2 stuff?
22:05.33snirksace/ace2
22:05.38Mavackwarmup measures all
22:05.41kergothPProvost: http://covenant.kergoth.com/svn/kergwow/trunk/AddOns
22:05.50snirkshm i cant find auctioneer in the list
22:05.57cheersMavack: yeah I was surprised at first that they were just opening up the UI like that
22:06.10PProvostThanks kergoth
22:06.14PProvostLooking now. :)
22:06.19kergothi'm something of an information addict
22:06.24PProvosthehe
22:06.25PProvostme too
22:06.32PProvostI wanna see what you know that I don't. :)
22:06.47cheershaha
22:07.03PhroonI find that when Chronometer displays my HoTs on other targets, the bars don't always reach full duration.  Are the HoTs being knocked off or is it a bug in Chronometer?
22:07.08cheersag`: any hope you'll add enemy castbars into ag_uf, like there are in the default UI?
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22:07.32CIA-1703usz * r20416 10PrivateChat/Core.lua:
22:07.32CIA-17PrivateChat
22:07.32CIA-17- Disabled whisper routing
22:08.24thaliecheers: download menemycastbar off wowi
22:09.37kergothi need to put my addon set release script back into my addon set svn
22:09.55kergothbreaks up the set into logical chunks via .toc metadata, then outputs descriptions and slash command reference into a readme for group group
22:09.58kergoths/group group/each group/
22:10.06kergothmakes it a bit easier to sift through
22:10.27mAydieis there a way to cast spells or abilities on buttonpush instead of buttonrealease?
22:10.35CIA-1703neriak * r20417 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua:
22:10.35CIA-17BulkMail:
22:10.35CIA-17- fixed Alt-Clicks
22:10.35CIA-17- changed gfind to gmatch
22:10.37cheersthalie: is "menemycastbar" what you really mean? wowinterface comes up no hits
22:11.12kergothcheers: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5488-mEnemyCastbar.html
22:11.19cheersI fail
22:11.20thalie;)
22:11.20kergoth:P
22:11.21thalieFAIL
22:11.24cheers:P
22:11.26thalie(thanks kergoth)
22:11.27BarbanusTakadi, ping? :)
22:11.29kergoth~emulate peter
22:11.30purlNOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying?
22:11.46thalielol that reminds me of vhaarr ;)
22:11.48thalie~vhaarr
22:11.49purlsilly rabbit, closetgnome is for kids.
22:11.53kergothhehe
22:11.54vhaarr><
22:11.56kergoth~emulate peter
22:11.57purlYou know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you.
22:13.10snirksim using around 25mib
22:13.27snirksis that good for having 55 addons?
22:13.32thaliepurl, you love me
22:13.34purlof course i do, silly.
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22:13.57kergothhehe
22:14.01kergoth~remulate
22:14.02purlGood? Bad? I'm the one with the gun.
22:14.07kergothyay ash
22:14.11kergoth~emulate ash
22:14.12purlGimme some sugar, baby!
22:14.13deltronsomeone's been having fun with an infobot
22:14.28thalieremulate is "random emulate"?
22:14.33kergothyeap
22:14.36kergoth~factinfo remulate
22:14.37purlremulate -- created by kergoth <n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> at Wed Dec 14 04:27:21 2005 (364 days); it has been requested 117 times, last by thalie, 14s ago.
22:14.39kergoth~literal remulate
22:14.41purl"remulate" is "<reply> see emulate stewie || <reply> see emulate chris || <reply> see emulate gir || <reply> see emulate ash || <reply> see emulate zim || <reply> see emulate fry"
22:14.41thalieomg.
22:14.44thalie"(holding a rubber condom) Dad, they even have games you can play in the bathroom!  Look, I won a balloon!"
22:14.45kergoth:P
22:14.53deltron~emulate fry
22:14.54purlWords. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears.
22:15.03kergothhehe
22:15.09deltron<3 fry
22:15.21kergoth~emmulate bender
22:15.23kergoth~emulate bender
22:15.24purlBite my shiny, metal ass!
22:15.45deltron~emulate bender
22:15.47purlBite my shiny, metal ass!
22:15.50deltronaww
22:15.53thaliethere are more
22:15.53kergoth:(
22:15.56kergoth~emulate bender
22:15.57purlBite my shiny, metal ass!
22:15.57Barbanus~factinfo emulate
22:15.57purlthere's no such factoid as emulate, Barbanus
22:16.04kergoth~emulate zim
22:16.05purlIt's like you said!  They try to end the hunger for sweetness.. in their.. RUMBLING.. UNDEAD.. _bellies_!
22:16.10kergoth~emulate gir
22:16.11purlyay!
22:16.17kergothpft, boring factoid
22:16.18thalie~emulate vhaarr
22:16.19purl^^
22:16.19deltronaww you can't flood the bot :(
22:16.25kergoth~emulate gir
22:16.26purlmy walnuts!
22:16.35deltronlol ^^
22:16.41kergothinvader zim ftw
22:16.44kergoth~emulate dib
22:16.45purlSee Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then...
22:16.50vhaarr~emulate homer
22:16.52purlBart! Get back here!
22:16.56Goebdeltron- whats your spec on your shammy
22:16.59thalie~emulate xuerian
22:17.01purlLet me see if I can help you fix that, chuckg
22:17.03deltronGoeb: 0/0/51
22:17.06kergoth~emulate kergoth
22:17.08purlACTION hacks on OZ, OE, bitbake, and other projects.
22:17.08deltron:)
22:17.10kergothbah
22:17.13thalieheh
22:17.20kergothsome of my emulates are boring
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22:17.23kergoth~emulate kergoth
22:17.26purlHmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something.  I wonder what it was.
22:17.26thaliei made an emulate for myself but erased it.  it was quite offensive.
22:17.26thaliehehe
22:17.27chuckg~emulate chuckg
22:17.29Goebdeltron- 0/7/44 :)
22:17.30kergothhehe
22:17.31kergothi love that one
22:17.33kergoth~botsnack
22:17.33purlkergoth: aw, gee
22:17.40deltronGoeb: 7 for imp gw?
22:17.47Goebyeah and 5% mana *shrug*
22:17.50deltronyeah
22:17.51thalie~dance
22:17.53purlACTION tries to breakdance, but runs into Tenderheart and knocks him flat!
22:17.54Goebwas better than improved reincarnate
22:17.54deltronguessed as much
22:17.59Goeband I like running away :)
22:18.05kergoth~emulate brian
22:18.07purlGosh, I'd like to help you, Peter, but I've got to go out in the hall and chew on the back of my ass for about five minutes.
22:18.08deltroni always get improved reincarnate
22:18.20Goebdelt- it's... eh... situational
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22:18.23thalie~thalie
22:18.24purlACTION is the Spirit of Redemption.
22:18.33Goebbut I'm gonna move some stuff around and get it when I respec again
22:18.34cheershehe
22:18.46Goebor when I level a few times in tbc
22:18.55deltronGoeb: all I do nowadays is raid on my shaman
22:19.05deltronnow i'm definitely not going resto for TBC
22:19.15sylvanaarPProvost: btw the reason i was asking about standalonelibraries was i was going to submit a patch that would let wau handle it automatically. where are you on 2.0, is it worth doing?
22:19.21Goebwhat you have in mind for tbc?
22:19.22deltronyou can be shadow now :P
22:19.28PProvostHmmm...
22:19.30deltronshadow is now raid viable
22:19.30kergothdeltron: evilmonkeys has been playing my shammy on my account on beta, elem
22:19.31cheersdeltron: I'm in a raiding guild that's short on healers.
22:19.32cheersno I can't
22:19.40kergoths/he/evil/
22:19.40thaliecheers: my guild asked me to spec shadow last week :)
22:19.42PProvostsylvanaar, what do you mean automatically?
22:19.47Barbanus~seen Takadi
22:20.17purltakadi is currently on #wowace (3d 1h 28m 10s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 1d 21h 28m 37s, last said: 'Vanish: yes, and I'm actually not sure why the arcane int / brilliance button isn't showing :)'.
22:20.18deltronkergoth: lucky!
22:20.18cheersthalie: they asked me to spec holy when we had a bit of a healer exodus & haven't let me return.
22:20.18PProvostsylvanaar, and the other answer is I'm working on it right now. :)
22:20.18deltronkergoth: i guess that's why we've not seen him raiding much hehe
22:20.18cheersso, instead I become a purdy angel when I die. ;)
22:20.25thalieyeah, i think they are scared though, they don't know what shadow priests can do
22:20.32cheersyeah...
22:20.32Goebdelt- what you have in mind for tbc?  we don't get much new in tbc for elemental... no that it's bad as it is...
22:20.33kergothi might start raiding with zeb again, but its gonna suck
22:20.37kergothi want mutilate, but zeb is swords currently
22:20.44cheersand it's not like the gear-gap between me & the mages is that big ,either.
22:20.58deltronGoeb: i'm gonna be elem/enh, or elem/resto more than likely
22:21.05deltronI got the gear to support both
22:21.10cheersmissing a few key pieces but :shrug:
22:21.18deltronkergoth: zeb doesn't have any daggers?
22:21.22Goebdelt-  yeah, hard getting enh gear
22:21.25thalieyeah i don't have very good gear for shadow but i don't care
22:21.30cheerslol
22:21.33thalienobody else wanted to go
22:21.46[dRaCo]It's become a lot easier now
22:21.52cheersthalie: funny thing is, they make a warrior swing nightfall, but don't accept I could do thet same thing w/ a R1 SW:P
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22:21.58kergothdeltron: i think he has one crappy one out of scholo, thats about it :P
22:22.03Goebit's funny, all the shaman are full resto now... so the priests are all going shadow
22:22.06thalieyea - i practically jumped at the chance to respec
22:22.08kergothmaybe a julie's dagger from when i was low level
22:22.10cheerskergoth: time to PvP for HWL weapons ;)
22:22.17deltronkergoth: ouch :( you gonna try MC tonight?
22:22.19kergothhehe, not a bad idea
22:22.20deltronor is it tomorrow night
22:22.29Talyn600m_if BigWigs_KLHTMTarget doesn't work (according to it's text) why does it get updated?
22:22.30deltronthe HWL weaps are easy to get
22:22.33cheersthalie: healing is... stressful. I miss just mindflaying things
22:22.37thaliehaha
22:22.39Maranathaanything replace PoisonFu yet?
22:22.59cheersI'd miss meditation though...
22:23.13thalieyeah i have mostly healing gear so my mana efficiency should still be ok
22:23.16thaliewent 0/10/41
22:23.18thaliehehe
22:23.24cheersno imp fort?
22:23.28thalieoh
22:23.30thalie10/0/41
22:23.32cheershaha
22:23.33cheers:D
22:23.38thaliehehe
22:23.48thaliethinking of changing realms after the expansion though
22:23.52Stavmarnymbia are you there?
22:23.55thaliebtw, i hate the priest clearcast.  i think it is so overrated.
22:24.00Barbanusthalie, to where?
22:24.02cheersI like it, actually
22:24.04kergothhmm, suppose i will try for the hwl weaps indeed.  blow the dust off my rogue and actually spec him finally
22:24.07cheersI'm annoyed when it procs in agnel form
22:24.09cheersbut it's a nice perk
22:24.11thaliei dunno barb, somewhere else
22:24.14cheersnothing t ocount on, but... eh
22:24.17deltronok i'm heading out
22:24.17thaliecheers: i hardly EVER had it proc
22:24.20cheerskergoth: talk to juan
22:24.22Barbanusthalie, what realm you on now?
22:24.25cheersthalie: it is only 6% ;)
22:24.27thalieuther alliance
22:24.27thaliepve
22:24.30Stavmaranyone using GrindStatus
22:24.39cheerskergoth: he's got like 3 pieces of the gear &  a wewapon already ;)
22:24.40kergothcheers: why, he pvp'ing a lot?
22:24.43kergothah, damn
22:24.44cheersyou could say that
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22:24.55Barbanuskorgath pvp ftw :P
22:25.12cheersCH has been rolling WSG & AB since the patch landed.
22:25.24kergothi don't have a ton of time to invest just now, with the new job, the relatively new puppy to train, and the gf to spend time with.  will have to make some time
22:25.25cheerson off nights
22:25.29nymbiaStavmar: what's up
22:25.44cheersit's kinda funny, we're all PvE specs and still beating the  crap outta teams
22:25.54Barbanuscheers, haha
22:26.01Barbanuswe do that too
22:26.08Barbanuswe had our prot tank with 6/8 DN in AB
22:26.09deltronGoeb: http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/wow-gm/char.cfm?char=Diode@US-Suramar  <-- my stuff, i've not updated it in a couple weeks though
22:26.10Aileen_get gf to play WoW, kill 2 birds with one stone ;)
22:26.10cheersBarbanus: me & a warrior won a 2v5 'cuz of improved dying
22:26.12kergothhmm
22:26.15BarbanusHe literally tanked the horde
22:26.18cheershaha yeah
22:26.21cheerssean was doin' that a bit
22:26.23Stavmari am tryin gto use grindstatus, and the total numbers it shows in teh fubar dont make sense it hought you could clear things up for me
22:26.28kergothmaybe i'll go with a Hemo build and use that with my swords to get the hwll daggers
22:26.34nymbiaStavmar: sure
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22:26.37cheerskergoth: hemo rogues man...
22:26.42cheersthey've gotten mean
22:27.00kergothi used to have one, they're fun in pvp
22:27.01cheersI didn't think hemo was set up for stunlocks, but I had one lock me down full -> death the other day
22:27.02deltroni need to get a gf first to kill that bird :P
22:27.23nymbiaStavmar: which numbers?  just the 'Total:' one?
22:27.27PigBenisi swear doing finals when you're dead tired is bad news, sleep > studying
22:27.29thaliehang around EB, delt, and wait for a chick to pick up the box for TBC
22:27.33Barbanuscheers, I had 3 rogues, and 2 fury warriors beating on me last night in AB (I'm a holy spec pally), they couldnt kill me :P
22:27.34Stavmari am looking my zandal tribe rep and i am nearing exalted, but the amount reaminaing on my Rep Bar is not the same that is shown by your mod. What am I doing wrong
22:27.46deltronthalie: hah
22:27.47Stavmaraye the total one nymbia
22:27.49deltronok
22:27.53cheersBarbanus: yeah  I'm looking forward to rollin' a 2nd one up, now that I know how to play ;)
22:27.54deltroni'm off, leaving work finally
22:28.10nymbiaStavmar: is it including any items?  they'd show up as blue lines in the tooltip.
22:28.12kergothpally is the only class i've never played, not even to level 2
22:28.35Stavmari actually got Exodar rep today form a weird quest in WPL and the frinedly bar ends at 6000 but your shows 9000
22:28.44Stavmaranother thing i sthat i am not seeing the tooltip
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22:29.06Stavmarok i just got the latest form teh WAU and am seeing the tooltip
22:29.12Barbanuskergoth, I cant kill anything, but I can sure heal in pvp :P (and pve, but yea)
22:29.16nymbiayeah that was an annoying bug ;)
22:29.33kergothi have always hated pallies with a passion
22:29.36leech2kwell I just gquit my nax guild :-) I can have my life back
22:29.41kergothcourse, as a rogue that quite enjoyed ganking, i dont mind being hated
22:29.44kergothso what the hell
22:29.52Barbanus10k armor, +900 healing, 100mp5 ... yea :)
22:29.54thalieleech: thinking of doing the same thing soon, transferring
22:30.18CIA-1703ckknight * r20419 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua: .AceTab-2.0 - now also checks SecureCmdList for matches on the ChatFrameEditBox
22:30.18CIA-1703sano * r20418 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ (5 files):
22:30.18CIA-17ClosetGnome_Zone: Updated interface. All functionality moved to the
22:30.18CIA-17ClosetGnome FuBar menu. Added delete assignment capability. Added mount
22:30.19CIA-17handling. Jiggered the localization file layout. Korean and Chinese
22:30.22CIA-17translations need to be updated.
22:30.34leech2kthalie: I will miss raiding but atleast I will see my wife now :-)
22:30.39Stavmarok so the tooltip states from start of my grind which is revered to the end of my grind which is exalted is form 21000 to 42000
22:30.43thalieleech2k: i hear that
22:31.07thalieleech2k: i might transfer and start something really casual on another server
22:31.24CIA-1703sano * r20420 10ClosetGnome_Zone/Localization_zhCN.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone: Removed Localization_zhCN.lua. Superceded by ClosetGnome_zoneLocale-zhCn.lua
22:31.29BarbanusStavmar, that is kinda correct ... its 21000 rep to get to revered. (from neutral, or whatever)
22:31.46Stavmarand the 42000
22:31.52Barbanusthen its another 21000 to get exaulted
22:31.55ckknightalright, time to leave
22:31.57ckknightcya all later
22:31.59Barbanus21000 + 21000 = 42000
22:32.08thalienight ck
22:32.21thalie~wave ckknight
22:32.23purlBye, ckknight
22:32.51ckknightmaybe I can get one last fix in...
22:32.53Stavmarthanks for the math lesson
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22:33.14nymbia42000 is the 'absolute' value of exalted, and 9000 is honored.  i use those because since the mod factors in items and etc, it's more intuitive to display a total based on sheer rep than relative to your current rep level.
22:33.25Barbanus^^^
22:33.37Barbanuswhich is what I was trying to say ... but he said it better :P
22:33.57nymbiaStavmar: to get a feel for the kinds of values there are, right click on the display and look at the alphabetical list -- it'll show all your faction's standings in absolute rep.
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22:34.35anenigmakergoth: i tried adding find weakness to chrono.  my 5min quick fix failed.  so i might look into it more after work tonight
22:34.50Stavmarok, i guess i am used to seeing the diffs, and witha  rep bar that i have on my screen only showing the diff from revered to exalted the percentage representations do not match
22:34.50nymbia-42000 is an empty hated bar, 42999 is a full exalted bar, so a rep value is anywhere between those two points.
22:35.01Stavmari understand
22:35.27kergothanenigma: same here.  i tried and failed as well.  i presume its due to the fact that it can be caused by any of the finishing moves, not one specific one or an ability of its own. *shrug*
22:35.36ckknightalright, cya later
22:35.40ckknightnymbia, hope you enjoy the commit
22:35.43nymbiaStavmar: if you have the grind start set at 21000 and the end set at 42000, then the percentage should match, aside from item inclusions
22:35.47CIA-1703ckknight * r20421 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - side tablets now show in instances
22:35.51nymbiackknight: awesome, thanks :D
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22:35.59Stavmari really like your tooltip it is very nice and access to the rewards is even nicer, so than you for the hard work
22:36.10Stavmarthank*
22:36.14CIA-1703funkydude * r20422 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gothik.lua: BigWigs: possible fix for gothik mod re-enabling after death
22:36.24nymbiaStavmar: on the tooltip, does it have blue lines of items that it's adding to your rep total?
22:36.34anenigmakergoth: yeah i just tried looking for the 'Find Weakness' buff, but probably screwed it up
22:36.39Stavmaryes from the tokens i have and idols as well
22:36.41anenigmait also won't catch refreshes i guess
22:37.03kergothanenigma: pester haste, he staretd his own standalone deadly poison / find weakness addon, afaik
22:37.07kergoth:)
22:37.15Stavmarin the green i have a value in parentheses what does that represent
22:38.05nymbiaStavmar: that's probably the difference.  the green number in parenteses at the top of the tooltip is your absolute rep before including those items, and it should match your rep bar and rep screen; the yellow number that says "Total" is the same number after including those items.
22:38.22hastekergoth: It doens't correctly prevent the bar from display if the finisher moves fails tho'
22:38.26Stavmarok thank you for the clarification
22:38.27hastedue to how I detect stuff
22:38.39Benumbedsomething wrong with winaceupdater recently? not updating even tho mods I have checked have been updated (manually looked), just started about 12 hrs ago
22:38.57thaliehaste: lol - i read that wrong, i thought you were asking "how do i detect stuff" :)
22:39.15nymbiaStavmar: sure.  let me know if you have any problems, or think of anything that should be added.
22:39.16nymbiaafk a few
22:39.25hastethalie: Only thing I've found slightly annoying is detecting if a buff is renewed
22:39.31hastefor Slice and Dice my solution is 100% perfect
22:39.37hastebut it's not for Find Weakness
22:39.57Solehaste, which addon?
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22:40.08hasteSole: oDEPS
22:40.15kergothis there an event when an effect like that is renewed, or only when it starts initially?
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22:40.17Solehmm whats it do? :P
22:40.23hastekergoth: there isn't
22:40.37hastekergoth: I think PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED fires, but I'm not sure yet
22:40.41Solekergoth: Find Weakness is renewed after a finisher
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22:40.45hasteI need to do some testing first
22:40.48hasteSole: a finisher can fail
22:40.55Solewell make sure it lands :P
22:41.07hasteSole: Nothing is sure in WoW
22:41.20Solewhat does oDEPS do? I cant give advice on something I dont know :P
22:41.47hasteSole: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/oDEPS/core/odeps.lua
22:41.49Arrowmasterhow would you detect if rupture or expose armor land if your renewing them before they expire?
22:41.57Solehmm
22:42.36hasteArrowmaster: check if they don't hit the target
22:42.46Arrowmasteryup
22:42.50Arrowmasterbut i think thats kinda ugly
22:43.04kergothnice, i didnt notice debian has all sorts of lua libs now
22:43.09kergothsqlite, socket, posix, filesystem, etc
22:43.18hastewtb that in portage!
22:43.21Solehaste, add Envenom to the list of finishers
22:43.26thaliekewl, i got in the lotr beta
22:43.35hasteSole: that's TBC isn't it?
22:43.43Solehaste: plan for the future :P
22:43.54kergothwhat do people think of envenom?
22:43.55SkorcherXthere should be epic poisons
22:44.00Arrowmasteri think you can skip envenom, its not like anybody would use it
22:44.11SkorcherXgotta fish for deadly fish to apply there oils to your blades
22:44.18kergothi find it useful on certain high armor mobs in instances, but i'm only 65
22:44.34Soleenvenom is iffy
22:44.41Arrowmastertell the warrior to sunder
22:44.43Soleneeds some tweaking I think
22:44.58kergothit helps if you have that talent, not imp poisons, the one that increases poison damage
22:45.03kergoth5/5 in there makes it slightly less horrible
22:45.49Solehaste: line 143   if(unit ~= "plyer") then    >  "player"    typo :)
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22:50.57Solewth are all these errors I get when I try to commit?
22:51.08hugoanyone know where to get the icons addon for grid ?
22:51.08Arrowmasterwhat addons automaticly update the skills on your actionbars when you learn new ranks?
22:51.14hugoit doesnt show the debuff icons at all to me
22:51.29cheersArrowmaster: that's default now, i thought
22:51.46Arrowmasteri think it is too now
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22:54.22Benumbedit updates all except few like conjure spells etc
22:55.21BarbanusHmm ... am I retarded, or can you not move the bartender3 fubar plugin?
22:56.14Benumbedcan move mine fine
22:56.30BarbanusI try to drag it .. and it doesnt drag .. hmmm
22:56.35BarbanusI'm probably retarded
22:56.50[dRaCo]right click or something?
22:56.53[dRaCo]maybe alt?
22:56.55andremarman, why arent all users like that :p
22:57.09Dweller_lol.. ok.. so eastern kingdoms has gone down in my server.. and my group just wiped in scholo.. oops
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22:57.46cheersscrewed ;)
22:57.57Goraxeswow alot more people here then i thought
22:58.05thalie~dance
22:58.07purlACTION tries to breakdance, but runs into BarDwellr and knocks him flat!
22:58.10Barbanusandremar, well thats cause I havent been able to do it since version 3, so chances are, its me being an idiot, and not a bug :P
22:58.15Benumbedbarbanus, well i was able to move it
22:58.18CIA-1703uruloke * r20423 10ArcHUD2/ (10 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:58.18CIA-17ArcHUD2:
22:58.18CIA-17* Fixed 3D model issues
22:58.18CIA-17* Fixed nameplates. Right-click menus should work again
22:58.18CIA-17* Fixed issue with TargetCasting causing spells to get stuck
22:58.18CIA-17* Fixed Blizzard frames reenabling properly after going into standby
22:58.20CIA-17* Added FocusHealth and FocusMana ring
22:58.25Benumbednow not able to since I got a few updates...not sure when it started
22:58.36Benumbedso your not retarded after all =P
22:58.39BarbanusBenumbed, ahhh okay .. good to know
22:59.18Goraxesso at the risk of sounding like another typical n00b.   I am trying to make/edit a bar mod, and read that dewdrop can do what i am lookin for.  Any chance anyone is willin to help me out with a fast example/lesson? (i learn best this way)
22:59.30Makkhow do custom bars in bigwigs work`?
22:59.37Benumbedwill have to move other modules to make it go where you want it i gues
22:59.40Benumbedguess
22:59.40Makkwhat are the parameters+
22:59.41Makk?
22:59.52kergothum, its not exactly rocket science makk
22:59.58Makk^^
23:00.03kergothuse the commandline, it tells you the synatx
23:00.10Makkah.
23:00.15kergoth:)
23:00.25kergothimo the menu for it needs to be less crappy
23:00.26kergothbut whatever
23:00.29CIA-1703nymbia * r20424 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua:
23:00.29CIA-17MobMitigation:
23:00.29CIA-17- Database logic tweaks for locale compatibility.
23:00.43cheerskergoth: the bigwigs menu?
23:00.58kergothyeah, for the custom bars, it expects you to type the arguments into a text box
23:01.04cheersaah
23:01.06kergothrather than showing a slider for time and such
23:01.40leech2klol
23:01.58Solehaste: oDEPS doesnt seem to do jack for me :(
23:02.03leech2kso I work for a local government and one of the cops just told the craziest tazer story
23:02.25leech2khe just tazerd some got guys "hotdog"
23:03.12hasteSole: non-english client?
23:03.12leech2kman that would suck
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23:03.40cheersleech2k: eek
23:03.53Goraxescan anyone possibly help out? I jjust want a basic run around... there is no tutorial, etc on the site...
23:04.02Goraxesfow what i am lookin to do
23:04.21cheersGoraxes: what was your question?
23:04.33AmadeoiPod Shuffle finally has some real competition (assuming the price on the S7 is competitive)
23:04.42Goraxeswell i downloaded Yata (Yet another totem addon)... i am a shammy
23:04.57Goraxesits kool and all, but i want to expand on it a lil, and it uses dewdrop
23:04.57leech2kthats nice
23:05.13cheersAmadeo: what's that?
23:05.16Goraxescould not find a tutorial on basic's of dewdrop....
23:05.27Amadeocheers: iRiver S7 - http://www.asia.cnet.com/i/r/2006/mp/39727580/sc018.jpg
23:05.39leech2k~dewdrop
23:06.00PProvostI love my gen 1 shuffle
23:06.01cheershttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Dewdrop-2.0
23:06.03Goraxesi want to make a Menu sorta like Yata, but more custimizable
23:06.07leech2khttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/DewdropLib
23:06.11AmadeoPProvost: The big one!
23:06.11cheersAmadeo: cute
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23:06.26Amadeothe S7 has "skins" you can put over it, so it doesn't look like ass by default
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23:06.33Feldiahas anyone encountered an issue with chat windows disappearing?
23:06.42Amadeosuch as... http://www.asia.cnet.com/i/r/2006/mp/39727580/sc003.jpg
23:06.49leech2kso tired of ipods
23:06.54cheershehe
23:06.56AmadeoI'm loyal to whatever's good, I don't care if it's iPod or anything else :)
23:06.59leech2kand their proprioty software
23:07.02cheersI have a video work got me last year
23:07.07cheersI use it when I fly  &that's it
23:07.07StylpeSay, is there a command to find out if someone's been looking for me or mentioned me?
23:07.13PProvostFeldia, I saw that back on patch 1.12 but not since
23:07.20Feldiayea...
23:07.23leech2kseen stylpe
23:07.25FeldiaI've been experiencing it since 2.0.1
23:07.26leech2k~seen stylpe
23:07.37purlstylpe is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 58m 40s) #wowace (5h 58m 40s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 30s, last said: 'Say, is there a command to find out if someone's been looking for me or mentioned me?'.
23:07.37Goraxesbeen there....
23:07.38leech2kI dunno
23:07.38cheersI have tn owonder what's up w/ the dog & the cvhicken for + & -
23:07.43leech2kthere
23:07.47FeldiaI have a window that tends to disappear when I open and close my world map
23:07.51Feldiabut... it doesn't always happen
23:07.56Amadeocheers: Yeah...that's the default skin I guess...kind of silly.. haha
23:07.57Goraxesgawd i feel like a n00b... lol have not done any scripting since EQ1....
23:08.00Stylpeleech2k, that's kinda the opposite of what I wanted
23:08.02Goraxesumm
23:08.04Feldiaso it's very difficult to isolate what mod, if any, is causing it to happen
23:08.22Amadeocheers: Plus that chicken is really strange looking :P
23:08.31cheersAmadeo: it might be a goat
23:08.33PProvostStylpe, some irc clients do that for you...
23:08.33cheersi haven't decided ;)
23:08.40Amadeohahaha
23:08.43leech2kStylpe: whoops I dunno then
23:08.52cheersbut yeah, and the dog looks like it's peeing,
23:08.54cheersso ;shrug:
23:09.02AmadeoIt does!
23:09.05AmadeoOr it just has three legs
23:09.09Amadeo"Lucky"
23:09.11Goraxesbetter way to put this... if i can manage...
23:09.13cheershaha
23:09.43GoraxesIs there an example or tutorial that just shows how to make 1 bar, with 2 boxxes... drops down into say 3 boxxes each?
23:10.02PProvosthehe 1500 downloads of WAU 1.6beta1 yesterday.
23:10.08Amadeo1.6 beta!?
23:10.18AmadeoIt's about to be 1501
23:10.26PProvostAmadeo, announced in all the normal channels...
23:10.53PProvostCan someone running Windows XP confirm that the sorting is fixed in 1.6?
23:11.15PProvost(Someone other than sylvanaar who did the fix. :))
23:11.28Amadeohaha
23:11.39cheersPProvost: picky ;)
23:11.45PProvostlol
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23:12.17Srosh~cia
23:12.20purl[cia] a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.navi.cx/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;)
23:12.35Sroshindeed it is
23:12.44cheershehe
23:13.00AmadeoPProvost: Since I redid my addons, 1.5 sorting started working for me again...so I don't know if I can confirm it for ya
23:13.09PProvosthaha
23:13.42Amadeo:)
23:15.31Goraxesguess not :S narf
23:15.35SvendSvinIf i used CallScript in Ace, what would i use in Ace2 instead??
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23:16.46leech2kGoraxes: I have not found any good or uptodate gui tuts
23:17.12Goraxesi would be happy with a blank table in notepad lol
23:17.22Goraxes1x2x3 lol
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23:18.29kergothSvendSvin: "CallScript"?
23:19.36SvendSvinYeah, i'm trying to update an old Ace addon to Ace2 and it uses a function called CallScript..
23:19.41Tullergrr PickupBagFromSlot does not belive me
23:19.46CIA-1703rabbit * r20425 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Translate the pre-filled zones.
23:19.55Goebview changelog in WAU 1.6 does wierd things...
23:20.06kergothnever heard of callscript.  you sure you dont mean RunScript?
23:20.38Goeboh, nm.. it downloads the latest zip, unzip's and shows the changelog...
23:21.18SvendSvinWell, it says callscript and it used to work.. I dunno since this is the first time using Ace..
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23:24.50CIA-1703nymbia * r20426 10Manufac/Manufac.toc:
23:24.50CIA-17Manufac:
23:24.50CIA-17- Poke so people's WAU will pull library fixes.
23:26.23KaeltenAwayWowAceUpdater
23:26.48Goraxes.
23:27.52lassizcioRa2 doesn't have option to hide target on PT list?
23:27.53PProvostcheers, it might become WowAddonUpdater in v2 though...
23:28.33cheersPProvost: close 'nuff
23:28.33haarmif you havn't already, make WAU tidy up changelog files ;)
23:28.46PProvost"tidy up"??
23:29.26haarmwell after 10 or so updates, AddOns with 200kb revision histories are using an extra 2mb of disk space
23:30.06xgravixapprox 0.001% of available hard disk space
23:30.37haarmlucky you, i can't afford huge drives, and with with 70 or so AddOn directories, it soon adds up
23:30.53vhaarrIt will be a problem eventually indeed.
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23:31.02vhaarrBetter fix it now than later.
23:31.14haarmwell just having a look, seems the changelog size actually got nerfed
23:31.15[dRaCo]just add a button like "sweep history"
23:31.18yacoobfix early, fix often, fail anyway, vhaarr :)
23:31.25vhaarr^^
23:31.34haarmBigWigs was a problem before but changelog-r19918.txt is now 0kb :P
23:31.51haarmwhen it was having really big changelogs before
23:32.02haarmguess kaelten did it in the zip script
23:32.27haarmonly including the last change, hm
23:33.00haarmwell that's also no good, if you miss a revision you don't know what's changed..
23:33.23renchapan unique chagelog.txt
23:33.26DirtySanchis there a ace damage meter and healing meter?
23:33.29renchap*changelog.txt
23:33.35renchapremoved before each update
23:33.38TuX_BuBlingyacoob: what must be a standard increase memory rate?
23:33.46renchap(and zipped ?)
23:34.09dreamssone question
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23:34.41yacoobTuX_BuBling, as low as possible ;)
23:34.44CIA-1703usz * r20427 10TooltipExchange/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
23:34.44CIA-17TooltipExchange
23:34.44CIA-17- Disabled whisper routing
23:34.44CIA-17- Added item socket handling
23:35.00PProvostYeah, the current zip script makes 0 byte changelog files. :)
23:35.16dreamsscan ctra/raid addons be made so the when u have the raid groups open, player windows will change color when they low healt/posion/etc?
23:35.16haarmwell, it makes 1liners
23:35.33haarmbut if you want to know changes between revisions, i guess you'll need to go back to the SVN
23:36.03TuX_BuBling<yacoob> TuX_BuBling, as low as possible ;) << my game start a 35MiB, fall at 23.7 after GC then the increase rate stay between 1kib and 10kib
23:36.15TuX_BuBlingwas at the temple
23:36.22TuX_BuBlingdid 2 GC
23:36.32TuX_BuBlingmemory usage increased to 37mib
23:36.39TuX_BuBlingand still continue to increase
23:36.51TuX_BuBlingthe rate never stay at 0
23:36.52TuX_BuBling:(
23:37.48TuX_BuBlingi don't want to imagine what it'll be in a 40 man raid :(
23:38.31cheersoh damn.
23:38.35yacoobit's rather impossible to keep it at 0
23:38.39cheersI was all excited about something to keep my mods up to date
23:38.43cheers& it's windows
23:38.50kergothhehe
23:38.52yacoobbut if you're idling, and it's >10KB... something is playing up
23:38.56TuX_BuBlingi aggree with this
23:39.12cheerskergoth: make a platform independent one! ;)
23:39.19TuX_BuBlingwindows sux
23:39.21renchapcheers: there is a perl script to update ace mods
23:39.43kergothcheers: i have a bunch of python scripts that rip apart the downloaded zip (if release), import to my addons svn, tag it there, star merge it from addons to kergwow trunk.  or in the case of an svn, it just syncs and directly smerges from upstream svn to kergwow svn with svk
23:39.48kergoth:P
23:39.58yacoobthere are just so many things addon author can fsck up ;)
23:39.58cheersoh geeze
23:40.01kergothonly thing it doesnt do it process wowi or something and download the zips
23:40.07yacooblike, this LFG parser mod, "back then"
23:40.13yacoobit wasn't purging it cache
23:40.25cheersmaybe I'll just do it by hand when patches land, like i normally do ;)
23:40.26yacoobsoon it was eating up 10MBs of ram, bigger than my auctioneer ;D
23:40.35cheerssilly kergoth & tracking his mods in svn
23:40.35TuX_BuBlingi mean if i allready start at 30Mib how could it stay low
23:40.37cheers:P
23:40.38tlund~seen Saroz
23:40.56purlsaroz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 160 messages. Is idling for 5h 1m 14s, last said: 'same SoLoR'.
23:40.56kergothi track everything in svn :P
23:40.56tlundops only?
23:40.56DirtySanchhmm can anyone recomend a good damage meter?
23:41.03tlundah, just slow :)
23:41.05kergothhttp://covenant.kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/timeline
23:41.06SkorcherXSW_Stats
23:41.09TuX_BuBlingstrange to see some that have double number of addons staying under 20Mib
23:41.11TuX_BuBlingOo
23:41.36SkorcherXare all of your addons ace2?
23:41.58TuX_BuBlingno
23:41.58cheersDirtySanch: my guys are slowly migrating to... aw whazzit... SWStats
23:42.02TuX_BuBlingcan't
23:42.08TuX_BuBlingmore than half
23:42.11TuX_BuBlingare
23:42.18cheersDirtySanch: the config's a bit... eh, though once you get it worked out, it's not too bad
23:42.21SkorcherXyeah SWstats is awsome
23:43.12SkorcherXour guild lives on the DM's
23:43.21SkorcherXwe always fight for top spot..
23:43.24cheersexactly.
23:43.28Q6sw stats doesnt sync
23:43.35TuX_BuBlingyes
23:43.37cheersQ6: eh?
23:43.39SkorcherXthe trick is to use KLH TM to control yourself
23:43.41TuX_BuBlingthat's pretty unacurate
23:43.42Q6it does now?
23:43.47Goebcheers- like what?
23:43.54TuX_BuBlingyes it is
23:44.00Q6im sorry, im thinking about Recap. which dosent and i like the moest ;./
23:44.01TuX_BuBlingbut that's not really acurate
23:44.02cheersGoeb: like what, what?
23:44.10Goebcheers- what kinda changes have you seen?
23:44.14cheersQ6: right, recap doesn't & isn't being maintained last I've seen
23:44.37cheersGoeb: like, it being used to place blame
23:44.47thaliewe aren't allowed to sync meters, which is the biggest copout ever
23:44.47Antiarc*headdesk*
23:44.57AntiarcSo I just got out of a product delivery time estimate meeting.
23:45.08thalieoh antiarc, don't start with work ;)
23:45.10AntiarcMarketing figures "This should be easy" and "It should take about 20 hours to develop"
23:45.10Goebcheers- ah... sometimes people put too much faith in damage meters... but... sometimes they're right too
23:45.27cheersGoeb: yeah... I just don't like the kinds of pressure I feel when i watch them
23:45.28AntiarcWe just came up with a 6 month+ estimate figure, and that's based on only the roughest draft of a design doc.
23:45.29TuX_BuBlingAntiarc: what's your job?
23:45.36cheersso when the 2.0 patch landed i Just declined to reinstall it ;)
23:45.49Goebcheers- oh, I minimize it... if anything I keep KLH up
23:45.50AntiarcProgrammer, primarily a web developer, but I do other mostly anything related to programming, scripting, etc.
23:45.53cheersAntiarc: eek
23:45.58TuX_BuBlingok
23:46.02thalieantiarc: we just landed a beta client and have to have a complete "application" to them in a month
23:46.03AntiarcWeb application developer, not one of them HTML coders ;)
23:46.10cheerssomething to be said for a 1-man marketing dept ;)
23:46.13thalieantiarc: we're barely 1/3 of the way into the requirements
23:46.32TuX_BuBling<Antiarc> Web application developer, not one of them HTML coders ;) << are HTML coders?
23:46.34TuX_BuBling;D
23:46.52Q6nobody cares about a healing meter, ooo i spam gheal faster than you tehe^
23:46.55cheersHTML is a language, tehcnically ;)
23:46.58Antiarc"HTML coders" is something of a perjorative for people who think HTML is a programming langauge
23:47.02cheersQ6: you'd think that...
23:47.03thaliewell healing meters only measure one thing - who slacks the most
23:47.04AntiarcHTML is a markup language, not a programming langauge.
23:47.10Goebhtml is a markup language... saying html authors are "coders" is like saying people who use bold and italics in word are coders :)
23:47.16yacoobAntiarc, come over to my place tomorrow, I have some autocompleters to mash up ;)
23:47.17thaliethey also catch overheal which is nice to know
23:47.19AntiarcCookie for Goeb
23:47.24cheersAntiarc: markup languages are a type of programming language ;)
23:47.30AntiarcNo they aren't.
23:47.37BS|triflyquelqu un parle le francais ?
23:47.39AntiarcWrite me a control structure in HTML ;)
23:47.42yacoobGoeb, nowadays by 'html' most of the folks understand 'html + css + js'
23:47.51yacoobcheers, no loops, ifs, and so on. Your move ;)
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23:48.08cheers:P
23:48.10thalietrifly: parle en englais s'il vous plait
23:48.13Goebthe term markup language came from the print industry where markups were used to indicate changes in typefaces
23:48.24GngskI am l33t c0d3r
23:48.27cheersit's been awhile since my programming langguages class but i remember losing this argument on the other side, distinctly
23:48.27TuX_BuBlingHTML is a programing language only for people whoom their job :)
23:48.41cheers;)
23:48.45thalie1337 h4x0r
23:48.45Goraxesanyone willin to help me out with somthin basic? Dewdrop menu.  1 Row, 2 colums, say... 3 boxes when you highlight either button in the row?
23:48.46Goebyacoob- oh, agreed... there's more to it...
23:48.48yacoobC!
23:48.55BS|triflyyes i can try but it difficult ^^' i looking for help i m trying to update a add on but i m beginner :/
23:49.00GoebI was an orly license place
23:49.04Goebs/place/plate/
23:49.06cheersyacoob: even worse... C with *square brackets*!
23:49.20yacoobI'm not afraid anymore!
23:49.24yacoob...or am I?
23:49.41cheershehe
23:49.45yacoobc'mon, crit me with your braces!
23:49.48Goraxesanyone?
23:50.07Goeb][  ?
23:50.10cheersGoraxes: I think you're gonna have totake the documentation & make a try at it  & come  back with specific questions
23:50.18thalietrifly: which addon, and what are you trying to update it for?
23:50.19Goeb]|[
23:50.26Goraxesyellow hurts lol
23:50.31yacoobit's only a flesh wound!
23:50.36cheerslol
23:50.49AntiarcBuuuuut anyway. We're looking at at LEAST 6 months to get this thing into alpha.
23:50.51cheersNSString *fileExtension = [[[[[webView mainFrame] dataSource] response] suggestedFilename] pathExtension]; <-- Bam!
23:50.56AntiarcMarketing. ;_;
23:51.01Vegeta]BT[does anyone know some things about Skinner ?
23:51.02BS|triflyi used easypriest before tbs this addon use ace2 library
23:51.09GoraxesAll i have to work with at the moment is Yata (i learn scripting based of examples...)... and Yata has alot of stuff in it i could use ripped out lol.  It places specific spells in the slots etc...
23:51.14yacoobhm
23:51.18yacoobI thought I know C
23:51.28cheersyacoob: Objective-C ;)
23:51.31dreamssumm
23:51.31Vegeta]BT[is it normal, that changes made via the menu are not direktly shown ?
23:51.32AntiarcWe decided we need to make a request to Marketing to do $2mil in sales by end of month. It should be easy! I mean, pssh, all you have to do is email some people and make a phone call or two.
23:51.36dreamssshould i repat my question
23:51.39yacoobcheers, it's very subjective, it seems
23:51.40dreamssor is not posible?
23:51.47BS|triflyi have change interface version in the toc file but i have a error with targetunit
23:51.50cheerslol
23:52.04thalieeasypriest is likely not able to work in 20000 without some major functional changes
23:52.04yacoobcheers, ok, jokes aside, what are you writting in it?
23:52.05CIA-1703nymbia * r20428 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
23:52.05CIA-17Manufac:
23:52.06CIA-17- Fix for resetting groups when none have been set.
23:52.06CIA-1703rophy * r20429 10SimpleCombatLog/ (core.lua opt_gui_core.lua):
23:52.06CIA-17SimpleCombatLog
23:52.06CIA-17- Hooks FCF_Tab_OnClick securely.
23:52.08CIA-17- Removed hooking on ChatFrame_OnEvent.
23:52.14dreamsscan ctra/raid addons be made so the when u have the raid groups open, player windows will change color when they low healt/posion/etc?
23:52.17cheersyacoob: I'm the (only) dev on OmniWeb
23:52.23cheerswhich is a Mac OS X webbrowser
23:52.47cheerslol
23:52.50yacoobyou're the lone bastion that stands up to a waves of firefoxes? :)
23:52.54dreamssis it psoible with the enw lua?
23:52.58cheersyacoob: and safari's ;)
23:53.08thalietrifly: stuff like simplecast and besttarget, those will never work under 20000
23:53.19yacoobheh
23:53.22BS|triflyi just use besttarget
23:53.22Vegeta]BT[hm
23:53.29yacooband I did used omniweb, even if for a moment...
23:53.45cheersholy crap, I llove it when bugs fix other bugs
23:53.48cheersyacoob: sweet :D
23:53.50thaliebesttarget automatically targets, right?
23:53.53cheersyacoob: long ago?
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23:54.02BS|triflyit s impossible to update besttarget ?
23:54.16thaliethat is not possible - they removed this functionality to prevent decursive from target selecting
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23:54.33BS|triflyautomatically target the member who need heal with some priority
23:54.36dreamsswell
23:54.40dreamsshow about what i asked
23:54.40thalietrifly: never work in 20000
23:54.45AntiarcYou can't programatically target people.
23:54.52dreamsscan ctra/raid addons be made so the when u have the raid groups open, player windows will change color when they low healt/posion/etc?
23:54.53dreamssthat
23:54.55thaliecorrect antiarc
23:54.56thalie:)
23:54.56TuX_BuBlingyacoob: with Moveanything and MobilFrames activated, i'm iddling at 15.1kib
23:54.58thaliehehe
23:54.59TuX_BuBlingO_O
23:55.05Antiarcdreamss: Sure, Grid does it, for example.
23:55.05thaliei hate to say it, but l2p
23:55.08dreamssu have to click on each one and decurse
23:55.12CIA-1703rabbit * r20430 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua ClosetGnome.toc libs/):
23:55.12CIA-17ClosetGnome:
23:55.12CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:55.12CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:55.12CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:55.18yacoobTuX_BuBling, get tekSupport and hunt the greedy bastard
23:55.19dreamssbut it be easier to find out which one needs what
23:55.21dreamssu know?
23:55.26cheersdreamss: I don't think the guys here have anything to do with ctra specifically, but I seem to remember  the bars in it changing colors.../
23:55.29yacoobcheers, not really, it was like, 3 months ago? 2?
23:55.41TuX_BuBlingwhat's tekSupport?
23:55.42cheersyacoob: good deal :D
23:55.43dreamsscheers, well im using it as example
23:55.51yacoobcheers, I decided to give osx a go on my pc, my hw is pretty similar to apple's
23:55.55thalietrifly: sorry to be the bearer of bad news
23:56.08cheersyacoob: got it running on 3rd party hardware?
23:56.10cheersyacoob: leet ;)
23:56.43yacoobcheers, there were some quirks, but it was running sufficient good enough to test it
23:56.49Antiarc~tekSupport
23:56.59yacoobif only wow would work, I'd perhaps stay with it
23:56.59cheerso.O
23:57.03cheerswow works fine for me @ home...
23:57.21cheersbut then I'm running approved hardwareâ„¢
23:57.23BS|triflyit is impossible to target a raid member or party in add on now ?
23:57.30TuX_BuBling???
23:57.42Q6Are there any working range check mods with aguf?
23:57.52CIA-1703rabbit * r20431 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: type is nil-safe.
23:58.00AntiarcBS|trifly: You mean do it from code? No.
23:58.01cheersBS: you can't have a mod decide who you should cast a spell on anymore, I don't think
23:58.02yacoobcheers, it was strange, tbh
23:58.28yacoobcheers, like, cd in, mounts, launches installer and... well... hello? anything? no window? no action? no nothing?!?
23:58.40yacoobeverything is fine, except it doesn't install ;>
23:58.45cheersyacoob: that's not right... o.O
23:58.57yacooband the very same thing was happening with unpacked wow client from the other mac box
23:59.02cheersyacoob: if you hvae a friend w/ amac & it installed you can just copy the folder form his Applications dir
23:59.11cheerss/form/from
23:59.28cheersdunno, that is weird. :/
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23:59.36yacoobcheers, and there was a minor gfx glitch, which wasn't problematic in day use, but it was in gaming
23:59.39dreamssok, if u make an addon that makes frames for everyone in the raid, and then set transparency to 0, and change it when one of the raid remembers becomes hurt or needs decurse
23:59.50dreamsscant that work as an emergency monitor?
23:59.55Kirretrying to script somthing u don't fully understand how to do, sucks when the power goes off lol
23:59.59yacoobafter exiting from any fullscreen 3d application, cursor's sprit was "shattered" to pixel static :/

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