irclog2html for #wowace on 20061207

00:00.05Higdurusing Bartender3
00:00.09waffle^_cnet editor, was stranded w/ family in car, left for help after 5 days, resucers found his family but he died
00:00.18Amadeoyeah, it's sad :(
00:00.24boobies4uah well
00:00.26boobies4uhe got owned
00:00.31waffle^_o_O
00:00.39ckknightwell, I found a way to increase Deformat's efficiency and ease of use by quite a bit.
00:00.40DrDrehttp://defconbots.org/defcon15/rules.php wtf lol
00:00.43ckknighthooray for ... and string.match
00:01.06VII|Beherithow can i setup xloot + master for 2.01 / same question for XRS
00:01.18Jagobahxloot isn't updated yet, XRS is
00:01.18waffle^_dhraga: also "squeenix"
00:01.23DrDreif its not updated, then you cant :P
00:01.24leech2kso anyone going to defcon this year?
00:01.30Dhragathanks waffle
00:01.31VII|Beherityeah but it was said
00:01.31KarlThePaganwaffle^_ - http://stage5.divx.com/members/261578/videos/1050056
00:01.48*** join/#wowace todd (n=todd@69.245.116.254)
00:02.02KarlThePaganagh typo
00:02.04vhaarrckknight: Did you see the Dewdrop bug?
00:02.06KarlThePagan2 machines ftl
00:02.09ckknightno, vhaarr
00:02.12vhaarrckknight: In case you didn't see it; Bug in Dewdrop: A dewdrop with 4 type="color" and one type="range" 1-4 that when dragged controls the "hidden" parameter o fthe 4 colors, so that when the range is at 1, only one color is shown. Moving this slider causes an error at line 1605: "Attempt to index field level, a nil value."
00:02.37JagobahGrid is on ftp
00:02.47KarlThePaganwaffle^_ ah ok here - http://stage6.divx.com/members/261578/videos/1050056
00:02.49KarlThePaganthat works
00:02.54KarlThePaganMSBT video ^^
00:02.54ckknightokay
00:03.01vhaarrhaarm: I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no idea how to prevent that. I've looked through the API listing on wowwiki but can't find anything.
00:03.07DrDrecan someone with devtools or something sim give me the framename of the minimap button for worldmap ;x
00:03.08vhaarrhaarm: Got any ideas?
00:03.24DrDreor a script to print it :P
00:04.01TheKarnDrDre thats a fucking annoying frame :P
00:04.23DrDreyeah im trying to hide it but dont got the name and nor any updated moveanything :(
00:04.27vhaarrckknight: The offending code is in BigWigs\Plugins\Colors.lua, but I changed |hidden = function() return self.db.profile.num > # end| to |disabled = ...|, since that prevents the error.
00:04.35kergothKarlThePagan, :) msbt4 rocks
00:04.48KarlThePaganwoo MSBT sexy
00:04.57KarlThePaganevent merging! nice
00:05.04nevcairielmerging rocks
00:05.25nevcairieldo AE and it displays total dmg and how many targets hit <3
00:05.27waffle^_yeah it's so nice, i don't know why it's not more popular
00:05.31DrDresite makes me install a player to view video, fux that :(
00:05.33KarlThePaganoh that's sweet it's kinda sexy like the "combo hits" mod i've seen
00:05.36KarlThePaganbut mostly for aoe
00:05.49FiredancerDrDre: MiniMapWorldMapButton
00:05.55DrDrethx
00:06.02Firedancernp
00:06.03JoshBorkeKaelten: did you get the ram upgrade?
00:06.10DrDre./script MiniMapWorldMapButton:Hide() ftw
00:06.11Grollok sct just went out the window :P
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00:06.30KarlThePaganlol yea
00:06.32TheKarnDrDre: <3 for you :)
00:06.33HigdurServer shutdown in 15 \o/
00:06.34KarlThePaganbye bye sct
00:07.08kebinusannew msbt?
00:07.15KarlThePaganyea lol
00:07.16nevcairielyeah 4.0
00:07.18KarlThePaganvid
00:07.20kebinusanlinkage?
00:07.24KarlThePaganhttp://stage6.divx.com/members/261578/videos/1050056
00:07.34kebinusandont want a video I want a download
00:07.43Firedancergrr this tinytip/eqcompare error is irritating. tinytip works but contantly pumps out the same error
00:07.51waffle^_http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-MikScrollingBattleText.html
00:07.54KarlThePaganwowi is fux'd but http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-MikScrollingBattleText.html
00:09.06KarlThePaganah customizable dmg colors... <3
00:09.36sbuyay, server shutdown
00:09.41sbuhm
00:09.43leech2kmsbt isnt ace2 though is it?  :-(
00:09.44sbumsbt > sct?
00:09.49waffle^_are they bringing the arena battlemasters up?
00:09.59sbuwaffle^_: hehe - good question :o
00:10.01waffle^_leech2k: it isn't, but the author has a pretty convincing explanation as to why it's not
00:10.07leech2ko cool
00:10.17sbuperhaps incoming reboot is abotu battlemasters
00:10.31leech2khmm ya it is a pretty advanced mod actually
00:10.41KarlThePaganwhat's that waffle^_?
00:11.33vid`wow
00:11.37vid`msbt is sweet
00:11.53Tril_is perfect raid frames working with the patch?
00:12.05waffle^_his explanation is on the WOWI site, but he basically said that efficiency/speed was his #1 priority, and he dropped ace2 for a slight speed increase.
00:12.26wallenIs henge memory consuming or ?
00:13.22MerentarOnly reason MSBT is sweet is cause he stole the code from SCT
00:13.26Merentarperiod
00:13.30KarlThePaganouch
00:13.43kergothMerentar, i suggest you pull fewer statements out of your ass.
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00:13.51kergothpeople might take you a bit more seriously then
00:13.56snurre<waffle^_> are they bringing the arena battlemasters up?   <-- no they are not.. arenas are outland-only, so there's no point having them atm
00:13.58Barbanusrofl
00:13.58KarlThePaganshow us a diff Merentar
00:14.05DrDrewrong snurre:
00:14.08waffle^_snurre: incorrect
00:14.11DrDreyou can still play them
00:14.16DrDreyou just cant earn arena points
00:14.23JagobahI have a few popular mods on ftp://67.19.139.94/ if the wowace servers are too slow
00:14.26JagobahIncluding MSBT
00:14.36snurrewell, in any case they won't be brung up just yet
00:14.37sylvanaarthere is an arena in gurubashi
00:14.39snurreneed another patch for it
00:14.45snurreso 2.0.2 earliest
00:14.47DrDrethey said they should be up
00:15.05Barbanusthey were supposed to be up yesterday
00:15.10nevcairielJagobah: replace your BT3 with http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/bt3/Bartender3-r19413.rar .. it has all the libraries and is more recent :P
00:15.13Barbanusbut they were screwing up the servers
00:15.17Barbanusso they took the npcs out
00:15.21Barbanusand brought up the servers
00:15.26thaliei'm still waiting for the diff on what MSBT copied from SCT
00:15.28Barbanusthey wanted them back in today.
00:15.29thalie;)
00:15.39snurrearena masters made it possible to group with opposite factions
00:15.53snurrethats why they were taken out
00:16.32Jagobahrgr
00:16.56sbuheh
00:16.57sbuwtf
00:17.01sbucant assign 1-10 with trinity
00:17.05pastamancersnurre: lol
00:17.07Firedanceranyone know why the first highlit line (TinyTip) errors when EQCompare is enabled (next two highlit are the given stings from BugSack)? http://ace.pastey.net/3143
00:17.13sbualt-1, shift-1 works
00:17.13KarlThePaganthalie ;) even with a few lines duplicated I say all's fair - if the execution of the mod is better good on him
00:17.17leech2kit funny that they never fixed spell penetration on the character screen before live
00:17.20ag`nevcairiel: did you notice that bug?
00:17.22sbubut not w/o modifier
00:17.22ag`:o
00:17.35KarlThePaganit's not like you can make a serious claim that your lua code is trade secret (tho giving credit is good)
00:17.40nevcairielag`: which?
00:17.54anenigma_Firedancer: I have a fix, i believe
00:17.57ag`stance change on holding down modifier
00:17.58anenigma_Elkano showed me
00:18.25anenigma_Firedancer: change line 183 to         self.hooks[object].OnShow(object)
00:18.29leech2kWhy reinvent the wheel. Use another mod as a starting point and make it better or just the way you prefer it.
00:18.36anenigma_in EQCompare.lua
00:18.40leech2kAnd yes giving credit is a good thing :-)
00:18.43nevcairielag`: i fixed the bug with modifiers not working at all, if you mean that .. or something new?
00:19.15ag`no, that was the one I meant
00:19.19Firedanceranenigma_: thanks :) my server is being restarted atm but I'll give it a test when it comes back up
00:19.20pastamancerFiredancer: just a guess, but try self.hooks[object].OnShow(object)
00:19.37Firedancerand to pastamancer as well :D
00:19.43Jagobahbartender3 is up on the ftp, in zip format (thanks to nevcairiel)
00:19.46anenigma_pastamancer: yeah that fixed the issue for me
00:19.48Feidanag`: you made ag_UnitFrames, right?
00:19.50KarlThePaganand you know what ... the WORST mod environment ever is the Quake 3 one... everyone is paranoid about sharing their shitty code... so there are 100's of mods and noone really learns from anyone else and 99% of them suck
00:19.53Higdurhm, switching bars with stances in Bartender3 works fine when I switch to bear, but not when I switch to cat
00:19.53thalielol
00:19.56thalieno it was a different ag
00:19.58Firedancermany things I can figure out myself to make fixes but I didn't think of that ;)
00:20.03pastamancerheh, wasn't watching the channel while I was typing
00:20.27VII|Beheritwhy could it be that i cant leftclick on aguf to target someone. it simply doesnt change :(
00:20.31VII|Beheritcould it be clique
00:20.50therealagshadymmhmm
00:20.54Goebevery download from wowace.com stops at 99%
00:21.11JagobahI have a few popular mods on ftp://67.19.139.94/ if the wowace servers are too slow
00:21.12TheKarnWAU going strong
00:21.12therealagshadyI have gotten SVN to work like 3 out of 5 tries today.
00:21.14TheKarnslow but strong
00:21.35thaliethekarn: careful, you may not be getting externals
00:21.44VII|BeheritBAM my EU server down again
00:21.45thalieif you wanted them, that is
00:21.48DhragaHello all, could any nice person please take a quick peek on this FuBar-KTM2Fu and change it to be 2.0 compatible... It's only got 44 lines ;)  http://pastey.net/3144
00:21.58VII|Beheritlol
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00:22.15vhaarrDhraga: That should be compatible.
00:22.41DhragaNo, it reports AceLibrary 2.0 is not used or something like that
00:22.57Dhraga*is not supported in 2.0
00:23.00vhaarrChange |local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("KTMFu");| to |local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("KTMFu");|
00:23.24TheKarnthalie, i'm grabbing all the main libraries
00:23.29TheKarnand any that dont come down i'll add later
00:23.46DhragaI tried that vharr and it reported L is not a blabla value or something
00:24.14DhragaI dont have the bugsack lines cause my sever went down again
00:24.18Goebdo you have the AceLocale-2.2 lib?
00:24.20TheKarnblizzard have really fucked up patchday in EU
00:24.27DhragaGoeb yes
00:24.28TheKarnall servers have been shutdown for the 6th time today
00:24.29leech2kUS wasn't much better
00:24.31Amadeowow
00:24.35Amadeothey found water on Mars
00:24.36KarlThePaganwaffle^_ ooo I like searching for events in MSBT
00:24.40anenigma_TheKarn: they did the same in the US, don't feel that special :)
00:24.44*** part/#wowace Tovort (n=patrick@xdsl-213-196-227-81.netcologne.de)
00:25.06waffle^_yeah, that's pretty neat.  i haven't played around w/ it too much yet. (working right now)
00:25.24leech2kUS Server were down for 29 hours up for 30 minute and down for 2 more houts
00:25.31leech2kwell alteast my server
00:25.33KarlThePagandeffinately needed for all the stuff that's chainging in 2.0 new abilities, procs, items etc
00:27.16anenigma_haha
00:27.23anenigma_server restart in 14mins (US realm)
00:27.44DrDrejus got a 15m on SH
00:27.47kebinusanIm trying to zip up each individual addon in my addons folder for some guildmates, anyone have some suggestions on how to do this quickly in linux, I cant seem to figure out the syntax to do each directory seperately
00:27.53NickenyfikenEU serverns rebooting now
00:28.27sbuhe
00:28.31sbukeybinding fucked up
00:28.32pastamancerkebinusan: for i in *; do zip -r -9 $i.zip $i; done
00:28.34sbui dont get it
00:28.41anenigma_kebinusan: for i in * ; do zip -r $i $i/ ; done
00:28.42KarlThePagan^ pasta beat me :(
00:28.43KarlThePaganheh
00:28.52kebinusanheh thnx guys
00:28.53anenigma_lol pastamancer :)
00:29.05sylvanaarthats painful to look at
00:29.11pastamancerpshaw
00:30.29sbuyeah, need some `` find -d etc.
00:30.30sbu:)
00:30.54KarlThePaganyea yea maybe for i in `find . -maxdepth 0`
00:31.00Funkeh`rofl
00:31.06AmadeoI'm pretty happy with the new honor system, other than the fact that none of the rewards are worth getting
00:31.18Funkeh`NO MORE DKS! :)
00:31.24pastamancersylvanaar: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html
00:31.25KarlThePaganlevel 65 guards :(
00:31.31KarlThePagancrushing blows hurt bad!
00:31.33Funkeh`wtf?
00:31.34Funkeh`really?
00:31.36sbuKarlThePagan: find . -maxdepth 1 -type d
00:31.36sbu:o
00:31.38Funkeh`not 55 anymore?
00:31.38KarlThePaganyes
00:31.41Funkeh`wow
00:31.45KarlThePagansbu -maxdepth 0
00:31.47Amadeothe DK thing doesn't matter though, PvP in TBC is going to be sick...if you're on a PvP server, expect it to be very hard to level
00:31.54KarlThePaganoh wait
00:31.56sbuits 1
00:32.00KarlThePaganyea
00:32.05sbuhm and excluding "."
00:32.08KarlThePagani see my mistake ;)
00:32.09Funkeh`you sure this is on 2.0.1 live karl?
00:32.23KarlThePaganFunkeh` i haven't looked but I'm 95% sure
00:32.37KarlThePaganseen a few blue posts on it
00:32.44KarlThePaganand guild has been talking
00:33.04KarlThePaganlong long ago we had dreams of killing thrall
00:33.11leech2kya I think the patch file was called 2.0.1
00:33.16leech2k2.0.2 is on beta now
00:33.16Jagobahtouristlib is on ftp
00:33.25sbuok its find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | grep -v '^\.$'
00:33.27sbu%-)
00:33.42AmadeoIf you want, you can keep grinding honor and get one of these: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=38111 *or* you can do a 3 minute quest at level 60 in TBC and get one of these http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=360
00:33.48KarlThePaganlol sbu
00:33.55Mikkwoohoo all european servers down again
00:34.29sbuyah, reboot
00:34.33Eternally777Is there any news on a 2.0 TinyTip?
00:34.35KarlThePaganwtf Amadeo horde only?
00:34.38KarlThePaganQQ
00:34.39sbui hope they are enabling arena-guys now ;p
00:34.45sbuEternally777: its working
00:34.50TheKarnhttp://thottbot.com/beta?i=927
00:34.52Eternally777The latest is?
00:34.57sbuhmm at least for me
00:35.00ArrowmasterAmadeo: but that staff has always sucked, what about the the spellblade
00:35.09Mikkthen again... http://thottbot.com/beta?i=927
00:35.10Jagobahtinytip is 2.0
00:35.12sbubut i had to disable TinyTipExtras which throws some errors (icon stuff)
00:35.28Jagobahextras is a bit buggy atm
00:35.33sbuand EQCompare throws a lot of TT errors :/
00:35.46AmadeoArrowmaster: Not sure, I've never looked, let me see if I can remember what I got in TBC..
00:35.46sbuerr lots of evtn
00:36.02pastamancersbu: find . -type d -maxdepth 1 \! -name . -exec zip -r -9 \{\}.zip \{\} \;
00:36.04sbubut i have to fix my *$U(@#!)( keybinding...
00:36.24sbuhm :)
00:36.49johJeez, checkout took around 1hr :/ of a single project.
00:36.51KarlThePaganlol moar unix in the wowace channel
00:37.26ckknightupdated Deformat-2.0
00:37.31ckknightmuch cleaner now
00:37.36pastamancerKarlThePagan: I try not to bring my work home, but I can't resist a good one-liner
00:37.37kergothsbu, you dont have to disable all of extras, just hte raid icon display afaik
00:37.39kergothhmm
00:37.40vid`joh lol yea ive beent rying to update 3 addons for last hour
00:37.43vid`so i can login and raid
00:37.49vid`i think im gonna give up for a week
00:37.49sbukergoth: oh ok
00:37.50Funkeh`ckknight: cool
00:37.53MikkKarlThePagan: That's not unix. That's standard text tools. I have them under win32 also ;)
00:38.03vid`go play some xbox360
00:38.05ckknightmore efficient and optimized and all that, too
00:38.07vid`gears of war~
00:38.27johvid`: Hehe, yep, it sucks :P
00:38.28Mikkraid? on patch day? who does that :-P
00:38.40johvid`: New server ftw...
00:38.40Mikksomething's always busted :-P
00:39.05vid`people raided last night too :)
00:39.07johMikk: Well, BGs are in raids so :P
00:39.35vid`i just need a mage mod for ports/conjuring/mana gems~
00:39.44vid`need like another 20 hotkey slots without it
00:40.16vid`cycircled work yet with 2.0? I saw it was updated for bartender3
00:40.28beerkeIs ther esomewhere a summary of what functions and stuff is added or deprecated with this patch ?
00:40.57KarlThePaganbeerke - see forums.worldofwarcraft.com - UI forum "Concise changes" post by Iriel
00:41.03KarlThePagansitckied
00:41.51ggilbertvid`: There's a fubar mod in SVN
00:41.58ggilbertI think it was called Fubar_ConjureFu
00:42.00KarlThePaganAmadeo that staff makes me cry... I don't see where allies get anything at all comprable to it :( maybe http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=2083
00:42.14ggilbertit isn't working atm, but it might not be too hard to fix
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00:42.23abyssichateCan you get something that looks like to the old versions of Shard Tracker Resurrection - in case anyone used it - by using Henge?
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00:44.37bollerTinyTip updated?
00:44.50beerkeKarlThePagan, thanks i will find it as soon US forums decide to work again
00:45.19ThraeThe base of TinyTip works in 2.0, just some of its "extra features" do not.
00:45.37KarlThePaganbeerke you can also check out the Lua 5.1 manual at lua.org if you feel like reading a lot
00:45.52KarlThePaganwww.lua.org/manual/5.1/
00:45.57VII|BeheritMikma, ag` ?
00:45.58beerkeYeah got that
00:45.59VII|Beheritanyone there
00:46.10beerkeBut that does not say what functions blizzard added though
00:46.15KarlThePagannope
00:46.17toddanyone know if there's an updated clearfont?
00:46.17boobies4uis there an updated "honorfu" addon?
00:46.21boobies4uor something similar?
00:46.23KarlThePaganthat's why iriel rocks
00:46.26boobies4uto keep track of honor points earned
00:46.33waffle^_i have battlegroundfu and honorfu both workin'
00:46.39KarlThePagantodd I heard that the latest clearfont was still working
00:46.39waffle^_from WUA
00:46.40pastamancerbeerke: http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/WoW%202.0%20changes.txt
00:46.55KarlThePaganis it broke?
00:47.06ckknightsomeone in live WoW right now?
00:47.11gnorlishyes
00:47.15ckknightgnorlish, /print UNIT_SKINNABLE_HERB
00:47.27beerkethat link works better then us forums ^^, thanks pastamancer
00:47.28sbuno - server down ;p
00:47.32haarmsorry vhaarr, was afk, no ideas yet
00:47.37ckknightIs it "Requires Herbalism" or nil?
00:47.45haarmi don't understand why it's not working
00:47.46gnorlish"Requires herbalism"
00:47.46Firedanceraneigma_ & pastamancer: that fix works great! thanks for the assist :)
00:47.50pastamancerbeerke: it's copy 'n pasted from the cached copy of the forum thread
00:47.52ckknightgreat.
00:48.52toddkarl, the latest clearfont is working, but there are a ton of things where the font isn't changed anymore
00:48.54todd=/
00:49.01VII|Beheritgot an ag_Unitframes problem. i cant click on frames to target someone. (in and out of combat) could this be an clique problem?
00:49.08KirkburnReally?
00:49.13haarmvhaarr: could just inconditionally ClearCursor() ?
00:49.20vhaarrhaarm: I do.
00:49.21haarm*un
00:49.24vhaarrhaarm: It doesn't help.
00:49.36haarm:(
00:49.41toddkirkburn :o
00:49.44KirkburnThere shouldn't be any *default UI* places where ClearFont v11200-2 doesn't  cover
00:50.19Jagobahno clearfont makes the fonts look smaller
00:50.21boobies4udoes AG_UF show combo points for rogues?
00:50.22Jagobahwhich isn't so bad imo
00:50.39vhaarrboobies4u: Would be pretty stupid if it didn't.
00:50.44boobies4uwell
00:50.46boobies4unever know
00:50.54Eternally777One of my addons keeps making the sound like I'm moving something from bagslot to bagslot and it's kinda getting annoying.  The game kinda jerks when it happens too
00:50.55KarlThePaganI had to stop using clearfont... didn't like what it did with a few mods
00:51.15KarlThePaganand i run at crazy resolution so i'm fine
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00:51.21anenigma_pastamancer: you able to upload that fix to svn, for EQCompare?  
00:51.26pastamancerEternally777: does it happen whenever someone joins/leaves the raid?
00:51.32Firedancerchange    if (CanSetFont(PVPInfoTextFont)) then CombatLogFont:SetFont      to    if (CanSetFont(PVPInfoTextFont)) then PVPInfoTextFont:SetFont to fix the (Alliance Territory) thingie while zoning
00:51.36toddon the blizzard unit frames, my name font isn't replaced, also, the tabs in things like the character information window, and social window
00:51.38haarmEternally777, hook PlaySound and do a stack trace? :D
00:51.41ThraeKarlThePagan runs at 3568x16!
00:51.47Firedancerand tinytip is erroring again after changing some of its default settings ><
00:51.48Eternally777pastamancer: nope
00:52.09KarlThePagan1440x900 ;) big enough
00:52.19KirkburnI also run at that
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00:52.26ThraeFiredancer: Then don't do that.
00:52.27KarlThePaganinspiron 9300?
00:52.32KirkburnYup
00:52.43KarlThePaganfuck dell.. hope you got the nvidia
00:52.50KirkburnWhat mods? Not had any problems with it on the beta (which isn't on my Inspiron)
00:52.52pastamancerEternally777: hm, I remember reading about that bag sound on either pt.o or the ej forums
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00:53.01KarlThePagani had to spend 6-8 hours on the phone to get them to PAY to upgrade my vid
00:53.08ToastTheifhello
00:53.12KirkburnI got the 6800 Go version
00:53.17KirkburnHi
00:53.20KarlThePaganyea I paid for the upgrade
00:53.22CIA-1303ckknight * r19426 10OneBag/OneCore.lua: OneBag - removed lua51 check in OneCore.lua
00:53.34ToastTheifHow is everyone?
00:53.36pastamancerToastTheif: i *before* e
00:53.55ToastTheifexcept after c!
00:53.57Kirkburnheh, the one comment you can guarantee when toast joins :)
00:54.11ToastTheifyeah, I get it everytime when people don
00:54.11haarmso its either ToastTheif or ToastThceif
00:54.16ToastTheifdon't know me*
00:54.19ckknighthey ToastTheif
00:54.19haarmoops, damnm i did the ei too
00:54.23ThraeKarlThePagan: Took me ~15 minutes to get a replacement for my AC Adapter out of warrenty after I ran over it with a chair multiple times. They took 80% off my purchase, making it $14 w/ shipping. And that was long before I started working as a contractor which also does Dell warrenty replacement.
00:54.34ToastTheifI obviously haven't been in here for so long, I see a lot of new people
00:54.36Kaethelol, speaking of onebag I sort of lost a bunch of stuff today into that 7th bag slot that onebank knows nothing about :P
00:54.38ToastTheifhey Ckk
00:54.50KaetheI was like "where is my feral set!?"
00:54.50KarlThePaganwell that's good thrae
00:54.52ThraeKarlThePagan: Some people have bad experiences, some people have good. It's the luck of the draw if you get an apathetic CS/TS rep or one who cares.
00:54.54KirkburnI did wonder where you'd gone
00:55.03ckknighthere's a fun fact: #wowace has more people than #wowi-lounge and #curse-lua combined.
00:55.05ThraeKarlThePagan: I used to work in TS for another company.
00:55.14KarlThePaganKirkburn - a lot of mods... here was my 1.12 setup http://www.nightelfcollective.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1428
00:55.14KirkburnJagobah, it certainly shouldn't make any fonts smaller :/
00:55.19VII|Beheritehm.... is there an addon that places a wireframe (grid) over the whole ui. so for arranging addons that you know the right places? :D
00:55.27KarlThePaganyes that really is 102mb
00:55.28Thraeckknight: That's because you guys don't respond to PMs or emails ;)
00:55.34ToastTheifI didn't really go anywhere, I just stopped starting Xchat up =P
00:55.34kergothVII|Beherit, there is one yes, on wowi, snaptogrid or somesuch
00:55.36KarlThePagani'm down to about 95mb now
00:55.36[Cu]Werikckknight, not much more:P
00:55.39ckknightThrae, meh.
00:55.50ckknight[Cu]Werik, :-P. we still have more.
00:55.50VII|Beheritkergoth nice thanks will take a look :D
00:55.59Thraecurse-lua has what, 20 people?
00:56.04ckknight50
00:56.04[Cu]Werik50 now
00:56.05KirkburnI'm using loads of Ace2 mods - all of them seem to take the ClearFont settings so far (except the ones which specifically come with their own fonts)
00:56.16KarlThePaganThrae my problem with dell is that they never escallated me... and transferred me so many times they had to drop my call
00:56.17ToastTheifBongos is borked on the newest patch :(
00:56.25Jagobahnot for me
00:56.32JagobahI hear thestances part is a little buggy
00:56.47ToastTheifWhat version are you using?
00:56.52Eternally777pastamancer: I think the bag sound is something with Grid
00:56.57KarlThePagani seemed to slip thru their policy cracks so they just threw my problems over the fence
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00:57.00Eternally777It seems to happen if someone in the raid logs on
00:57.05haarmKarlThePagan, what's that trafficlight thing ?
00:57.08ThraeKarlThePagan: Ya gotta know the ropes -- always write down everyone's badge number and the case number. If you feel you're getting the run around, scream for a manager. Don't call after 5pm EST for less chance to get someone from out of the US.
00:57.15KarlThePaganyea
00:57.16Eternally777It may happen more than that, but I'm not sure
00:57.20KirkburnKarlThePagan, I guess part of the problem is - I haven't been able to put the original font in ClearFont for a while. With the next version I'm putting it back in :)
00:57.25Eternally777It's definitely when someone in the raid logs on though.
00:57.28KarlThePaganhaarm that's cosmos's channel manager
00:57.32pastamancerEternally777: grid doesn't make any sounds :/
00:57.36ToastTheifIm using Bongos 6.10.29, maybe I missed a patch =/
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00:57.46waffle^_I think these annoying sounds are coming from the wow core.
00:57.50Eternally777Bummer.
00:57.52waffle^_Everyone gets them.
00:58.18TullerToastTheif: the latest is 6.12.05, but yeah there's issues still :)
00:58.26Kemayockknight: You pinged?
00:58.37ckknightKemayo, QuestFu is broken in beta
00:58.41ToastTheifoh, alright
00:58.46[Cu]WerikIs WAU available somewhere atm?
00:58.58ToastTheifBugSack's FuBar thingy also seems to be borked
00:59.08vhaarrHow?
00:59.17vhaarrDon't just say "it's broken lol", paste an error.
00:59.24ckknightKemayo, the tooltip shows all the quests as zones. I figure that somewhere, the args aren't being caught properly
00:59.37vhaarrckknight: Did you update?
00:59.46vhaarrckknight: It has been fixed, afaik.
00:59.54CIA-1303ckknight * r19427 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - remove lua51 check
00:59.54ckknightI updated in the past hour
01:00.07ckknightunless it's Quixote's fault...
01:00.14vhaarrIt is Quixote.
01:00.22ckknightokay then
01:00.40ToastTheifwell
01:00.45ckknightKemayo, unping.
01:00.50ToastTheifif I could get in to any server
01:00.51CIA-1303ckknight * r19428 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - removed lua51 check
01:00.53ToastTheifI'd post an error
01:00.58KemayoYeah, I briefly broke Quixote in TBC, then went back and added a version check to it to fix it for the beta.
01:01.15vhaarrToastTheif: If you can't paste an error, your information is useless.
01:01.35vhaarrGet an error before making claims next time.
01:01.48haarmeu servers are coming back up at the moment, by the way
01:01.53ToastTheifBugSack\BugSackFu.lua:11: Cannot find a library instance of Tablet-2.0.
01:01.53ToastTheif<in C code>: in function `error'
01:01.53ToastTheifAceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:419: in function `AceLibrary'
01:01.53ToastTheifBugSack\BugSackFu.lua:11: in main chunk
01:02.01kergothckknight, that change you did did fix that notes error btw, thanks
01:02.05kergoth(to cart)
01:02.14vhaarrToastTheif: That's not a BugSack problem. You're simply missing TabletLib.
01:02.16ckknightkergoth, awesome.
01:02.16haarmToastTheif, did you try installing TabletLib? :D
01:02.25ToastTheifI tend to make statments without any back up a lot
01:02.31ToastTheifusually Im just talking to my self
01:02.34ToastTheifso, sorry
01:02.43ckknightbad.
01:02.47Neeblerthis not having the libraries in the /libs/ directorys after downloading a .zip from wowace.com/files/ is getting out of hand
01:02.47ckknightgimme back my toast.
01:02.48ToastTheif:)
01:02.52vhaarrToastTheif: Problem is that I care, since I code BugSack stuff, so making those claims gets me going.
01:03.09ckknightKaelten, do we know why /files/ no longer includes externals?
01:03.13haarmvhaarr, bugsack is ugly
01:03.17vhaarr:P
01:03.21FiredancerIs there a dewdrop interface for configuring grid? all these slash commands are making my head hurt >_<
01:03.24ToastTheifI just click the little box next to BugSack in WinAceUpdater and go on about my business
01:03.35pastamancerFiredancer: check yo minimap or fubar
01:03.36ToastTheifand after the patch it wasent working, so I figured something was wrong
01:03.47vhaarrFiredancer: Yes, there is, it's a icon with 4 different colored boxes in it, should be on your minimap or FuBar.
01:03.48haarmhmm, what we need, is a ScrollingBugSackText
01:03.51Firedancerooh i forgot about fubar. i think i turned off the icon for some reason
01:03.54Firedancerty
01:04.23Kemayo[Ammo]: Thank you for fixing that.  It was a dumb drycoded error. :)
01:04.32vhaarrSo, I was testing BigWigs with CTRA, and so I had to install it, and I noticed that it seems /rs is broken, can anyone confirm?
01:05.03haarmmaybe they expect you to use /rw ?
01:05.10vhaarrThen it should error.
01:05.13ToastTheifSo Vhaarr, I assume it's just a bug with the server that Tablet wasen't included in the libs? or is that something I hvae to download seperately?
01:05.19vhaarrToastTheif: Yes.
01:05.39ToastTheifto the latter? or?
01:05.40haarmToastTheif, the zip script isn't including externals, just download the standalone with WUA if thats what you know how to use
01:05.49pastamanceranenigma_: EQCompare r19429 has the fix
01:05.51vhaarrToastTheif: I read from left to right.
01:05.58ToastTheifok heh
01:06.29kergothi wish people would get decent fucking editors and stop changing indentation in files i maintain
01:06.39kergothnote to everyone: conform to the indentation/coding style of files you modify
01:06.55haarmohh, intentaion and trailing whitespace is one of my fetishes too
01:07.06haarmusually someone puts spaces in amongst my tabs :x
01:07.12pastamancerclearly we need a post-commit beautifier!
01:07.17kergothi dont care about one style vs another in files i dont maintain, but failing to conform to the standards of someone elses code is just bad manners
01:07.20kergothplain and simple
01:07.27johSlowest svn checkout ever *cry*
01:07.48vid`yea getting 1k/sec from wowace.com
01:07.51vid`sustained
01:07.53vid`:P
01:07.54haarma post-commit obfuscator to give all the variables meaningless names and put it all on 1 line :D
01:08.00vid`theres probably 5 million people hammering it
01:08.07johNice, I have 0b/s atm...
01:08.07Soulmagaecant even use WAU :)
01:08.22vid`0.1k/sec now
01:08.43Soulmagaecheckout at 6am it is for me :D
01:08.48pastamancerhaarm: that's kinda how SEE-Aura used to look :p
01:09.08haarmit's what I imagined Skinner to look like
01:09.19BarbanusHomeNeed a mirror system for wowace.com/files
01:09.53johSo... why was it decided not to use sourceforge? :P
01:10.04BarbanusHomecause SF sucks?
01:10.09vhaarrSF would die as well.
01:10.11vid`well wowace.com is holding up better than curse etc
01:10.12vid`lol
01:10.12vhaarrNo doubt.
01:10.16vid`even tho its crawling its still up
01:10.17ggilbertSourceforge is this unstable every day of the week :)
01:10.20ggilbertand not just on patch days
01:10.22DrDreFuBar_CRDelayFu toc is fux0red lol... TOC is 112100
01:10.34haarmwell there was always opensvn
01:10.41haarmnever had problems with that
01:10.43BarbanusHomeAnyone know how much bandwidth wowace.com ends up using?
01:10.48johSF has way better hardware + bandwith than wowace.com...
01:10.49VII|Beherit<PROTECTED>
01:10.49VII|BeheritDie Realms sollten um 01:15 MEZ wieder verfügbar sein. Wir danken für Eure Geduld.
01:10.54VII|BeheritSORRY FC
01:10.56VII|BeheritOMG OMG
01:11.01kergothdamn those expansion alchemy pots are sexy
01:11.01sbuhm
01:11.10KarlThePaganwoah alternate hosting... y not googlecode?
01:11.20Eternally777How do we control the focus frame?
01:11.23haarmkergoth, thats what you get for using god damn expensive vials :)
01:11.42haarmEternally777, I saw Focus in aguf, and I still don't know what it is
01:11.55waffle^_It's like a secondary target
01:11.58KarlThePaganEternally777 macros
01:12.13haarmwaffle^_, as a shadowpriest :P how can i see / use it ?
01:12.14KarlThePaganand i think secure frame headers, but i'm a noob at those
01:12.19Soulmagaebtw is it normal that if u use AGUF, and u try to duell somebody it tells u it cant do that, and wants to disable AGUF ? :D
01:12.21ckknightVII|Beherit, keep it to English...
01:12.31ToastTheifI think Im gonna just take a small weekend break from WoW until this whole patch thing blows over heh
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01:12.36*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
01:12.40ggilbertSoulmagae: yeah. You need to use /duel for the moment.
01:12.47ToastTheif./wave Tem
01:12.52Soulmagaethat's just sooo lame of blizz :D
01:12.58waffle^_say you're in scholo, and you want to keep mob X shackled.  you can have a button that shackles your focus instead of your target.  set your focus to the undead, melt faces and heal however you want, and if the shackle breaks, press the 'shackle focus' button to reshackle without losing your target.
01:13.14haarmoh right
01:13.15haarmcool
01:13.17KarlThePaganyea
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01:13.26TemToastTheif, you guys can go fuck off
01:13.30KarlThePaganlike /cast [target=focus] Shackle
01:13.36TemToastTheif, you finally lose a fucking game, and it fucks us
01:13.45waffle^_yeah
01:13.46ToastTheifhm?
01:14.01BarbanusHomeI've got a dedicated box with 1TB of monthly bandwidth, but I'm sure wowace.com eats through that much easily.  I would be willing to setup a file mirron tho
01:14.03KarlThePaganlol college football
01:14.07TemUSC loses to UCLA, LSU goes to the Sugar bowl
01:14.09haarmhm, is it possible to query the focus? so like first click = set focus, afterwards only target it ?
01:14.20ToastTheifoh you're complaining about football again haha
01:14.20Temhad USC won that game, LSU would be in the rose bowl
01:14.24abyssichateWhat shall you do to hide the party frames when in raid ? Ticking "Hide Frames in Raid" is not working :E - using AG_UF
01:14.32KarlThePaganhaarm agUF shows the focus unit pretty nicely
01:14.40ToastTheifwell
01:14.45ToastTheifI wish USC would have won too
01:14.51TemToastTheif, no, I'm complaining about the loss of my vacation in LA
01:15.00ToastTheifbut instead I get to see my hometown team, vs my 2nd favorite team
01:15.05waffle^_haarm: i think it's possible with the new macro system, but i don't know how.
01:15.14ToastTheifUSC vs Mich, can't complain too much from my point
01:15.23BarbanusHomeHow do you set your focus?
01:15.33waffle^_<PROTECTED>
01:15.57BarbanusHomewhile targetting something I assume?
01:15.57ToastTheifNot trying to piss anyone off here with a random statement of another bug I encountered but when I right click on spells in my spellbook I get one of those annoying popups about how Blizzard has blocked an action by Ace2 and whatnot
01:15.57KarlThePaganwell /focus target to use it like that
01:16.01ToastTheifkinda odd
01:16.12ToastTheifand I couldnt copy it since it was a popup
01:16.19Temhere's a clue, it's not Ace2
01:16.19ToastTheifjust thought I'd throw that out there
01:16.23steev64im attempting to update an addon that hasn't been updated in a while, and currently, it complainsa bout a nil value on line 12 - well, 12 is a blank line - so, does it not count lines starting from the top? or does it not like blank lines now?
01:16.44johToastTheif: Yeah, we know :P
01:16.49ToastTheifalright
01:16.59ToastTheifanyway, back to USC
01:17.05ToastTheifI can't believe they went and lost...
01:17.09CIA-1303pastamancer * r19429 10EQCompare/EQCompare.lua: EQCompare: yes, OnShow really does want the object passed to it.
01:17.13BapsTem: you go to LSU?
01:17.17ToastTheifI mean, UCLA and Oregon St of all teams
01:17.18johHoray! SCN checkout 2 done.
01:17.21TemBaps, I do
01:17.26steev64or rather, line 12 is a line full of -'s
01:17.29johDoes this mean EQCompare + Tinytip = Good now?
01:17.31BapsTem: univ paid vacation to LA?  or on your own dime?
01:17.41ToastTheifI was actually rooting for LSU this season Tem
01:17.41TemBaps, I'm in the band
01:17.43joh*SVN
01:17.47BapsTem: that's what I suspected.
01:17.50TemI go to the bowl game for free
01:17.55VII|Beherithow can i get the fuckin blizz worldmap (minimap) button away there?
01:17.58haarmamagad, this focus shit kicks ass
01:18.08waffle^_VII|Beherit: check squeenix options
01:18.08ToastTheifmy best friend had them winning it all, unfortunately you guys have an undersized line =/
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01:18.09BapsI was in the Marching Illini, 1990-1995 and was a Graduate Assistant in 2001 for the Sugar bowl season
01:18.10KarlThePaganheh ... i was in wsu marching band the year they finally went to rose
01:18.15TemToastTheif, what baffles me is that they lost to two UNRANKED teams and are still ranked 5th in the BCS
01:18.26KarlThePaganwsu can't march... the parade was a joke lol
01:18.36VII|Beheritwaffle^_ THX
01:18.38vid`woohoo
01:18.42vid`just got a speedboost on WAU :)
01:18.46KarlThePagancoming from eastcoast band program... it was pretty bad
01:18.48vid`flying now
01:19.01TemThough, the Sugar bowl is probably the least stress bowl possible for us
01:19.14ToastTheifwho are you playing?
01:19.16BapsTem: it's a friggin home game for you guys.. what.. 80mi from campus?
01:19.22TemNotre Dame
01:19.24ToastTheifah
01:19.25TemBaps, less
01:19.29ToastTheifyou'll win
01:19.32TemWe will
01:19.33ToastTheifND is overrated
01:19.45TemPot/Kettle
01:19.47Gnarfozhuh
01:19.48ToastTheifOSU will crush Flordia...
01:19.51TheKarni thought XLoot was 2.0 compatable...
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01:20.00ToastTheifand the best game will be USC vs Mich
01:20.01Bapsthe 2001 SugarBowl was about 80% LSU to 20% Illinois
01:20.11mjcTheKarn: blizzard bug
01:20.21TemBaps, and the 2003 Sugar Bowl was even more LSU heavy
01:20.26TemToastTheif, I think you're right, but I still want to see Florida win
01:20.36ToastTheifI kinda like tebow
01:20.39ToastTheifhe's funny
01:20.42TemEspecially because we're having to miss the rose bowl for them to go to the championship
01:20.57ToastTheifheh
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01:21.16BapsTem: we were disappointed to be in NO instead of LA in 2001 as well
01:21.42ToastTheifhaha
01:21.48Gnarfozpastamancer: that thing you just commited to EQcompare, I get a very similar error from TinyTip - could you shed some light on what exactly that error was? (TinyTip just hooks a function at the corresponding line, so ... confused)
01:22.02Bapswin the big ten and not go to the rose bowl.. just Illinois' luck
01:22.11ToastTheifWell I can't say Im all that dissapointed with either of my teams this year, both are in the Rose Bowl :)
01:22.12Bapsof course, we've won a total of like 5 games since then
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01:22.51Temhehe
01:22.59GildedWhat's the best alternative to Looto?
01:23.01TemToastTheif, *grumble*
01:23.06ToastTheifBig Ten is such a harsh conference
01:23.11ToastTheifalthough SEC is the worst
01:23.30ToastTheifSEC just beats up on each other like crazy
01:23.48kebinusanwow
01:23.52kebinusanthis new msbt is sexeh
01:23.56Gnarfozoh and... that build is again without externals :<
01:23.57TheKarnwhat is the simplest way to make a mod that runs MiniMapWorldMapButton:Hide() on startup?
01:23.57Temthe SEC has the most good teams
01:24.03Bapstoast: the big ten was relatively down this year.. the top three really good (Wisconsin got screwed) and the rest are not as good as most years
01:24.05ToastTheifyeah, they do
01:24.14ToastTheifI agree, Baps
01:24.20TemWest Coast is so fucking cupcake compared to the SEC
01:24.29TemI wish LSU had USC's schedule
01:24.29ToastTheifPenn St was weak for one
01:24.41Bapsalthough, bad as Illinois was this year, we played a number of teams really close.. including Wisconsin and tOSU
01:24.49ToastTheifUSC had a tough schedule, granted only one SEC team
01:25.58Temwe played FOUR teams in the top 10
01:25.58Temall on the road
01:25.58ToastTheifI hate OSU, being from Michigan and all
01:25.58DrDreEnjoy: http://fanetworks.net/wowace.html - Everything updated to 2.0 according to toc #'s >_>
01:25.58Temwe lost one to a bullshit call, and the other we just weren't in the game
01:25.58pastamancerGnarfoz: this vs. self in OnShow
01:25.58TemI really wish we had been given a rematch with UF
01:25.58ToastTheifbullshit call was that Oregon Oregon St game haha
01:25.59SachsHoly crap this stupid 'member joined/left/change spot in the raid' sound is annoying.
01:26.01mjckergoth: around?
01:26.36johThanks, DrDre! :D
01:26.42ToastTheifI find it funny that the one SEC team USC played, they killed ;)
01:26.58DrDretook like 15 mins to generate that list lol, i got a php script that does it for me :P
01:27.08DrDreill try to update it daily or so
01:27.25Gnarfozpastamancer: hm, from what I see at line 183 (the one you fixed), eqcompare might actually have been the culprit :>
01:27.28Gnarfozthanks :))
01:27.42ToastTheifI just got a mental image of the real Dr. Dre sitting in front of a computer trying to write some crazy program, I laughed
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01:28.26pastamanceroddly enough, OnShow isn't in iriel's list, but "Script handlers defined in XML are implicitly wrapped with a function declaration (and trailing end) as follows (NOTE: AddOns that hook script handlers must now pass these parameters)"
01:28.32KarlThePaganstupid lua crap... man where's slim shady i should make him do this
01:28.46ToastTheifheh
01:29.00TemToastTheif, I didn't watch the game because I didn't realize that ARK was a decent team at the time, but if I had to guess, I'd say that USC broke McFadden's legs... And their passing game is shit
01:29.02DrDrelol ToastTheif:
01:29.26ToastTheifFiddy! help me with this code mayne!
01:30.50snurrewhats the difference between oSkin and Skinner?
01:31.13DrDre2 diff ppl do them, i think skinners more up to date and has a nifty fubar plugin to it
01:31.31mjcoskin was a nice lightweight app that didn't suck before it turned into skinner, so otravi took back oskin and split off all the hairy crap into the disgusting whore now called Skinner
01:32.11snurreuhm, ok.. so oSkin=good, Skinner=bad?
01:32.15DrDrei thought skinner was nicer >_>
01:32.23DrDredidntn otice any difference O.o
01:32.25ToastTheifwow
01:32.29mjcmemory usage
01:32.36DrDrebesides easier config and better options
01:32.42ToastTheifI seriously thought for a minute you were making a reference to the song, What's the Difference
01:33.49ToastTheifI blame it all on you, Dre
01:34.08DrDrelol
01:34.19ckknight~blame DrDre
01:34.26purlACTION blames DrDre (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
01:34.26Jakobudanyone know of an Ace equivalent to Confab?
01:34.26vid`anyone having problems pulling up the menu with escape? :P
01:34.29DrDre./cry
01:34.31ToastTheif:O
01:34.34vid`i hear the sound but dont see the menu
01:34.43DrDre~emulate drdre:
01:34.45vid`man now i gotta go through mods 1 by 1
01:34.45vid`lol
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01:36.03Funkeh`ehm
01:36.15ToastTheifWhat's the difference between oSkin and Skinner?
01:36.15ToastTheifSkinner is the good one, but oSkin don't do what it posed to do... anymore ;)
01:36.17Funkeh`whats the new function to cancel a spell
01:36.41ckknightCancelBuff, I think
01:36.45Krayis anyone else getting obscenely slow speeds off wowace? (i'm talking like 700bps)
01:36.50ckknightyes, Kray
01:36.55Funkeh`script SpellStopCasting(); is 'blocked'
01:36.59ToastTheifyep
01:37.04pastamancer<PROTECTED>
01:37.06ckknightit's caused by people like you hogging all the bandwidth.
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01:37.12Funkeh`ty pasta
01:37.22mjchmm, bt3 currnetly isn't hiding the blizz buttons
01:37.35Kraywell i wasn't sure if it was the site or my comp because i'm getting a bad ping to my guild's vent server as well
01:37.36TheKarnmjc, it doesnt need them to be shown any more
01:37.37DrDresave bandwidth and only check the addons that are updated! :P http://fanetworks.net/wowace.html
01:37.44mjchave to uncheck them by hand, how gay :P
01:38.07TheKarnmjc, bt2 needed them shown to modify them, bt3 shows its own buttons
01:38.10TheKarnmjc, afaik
01:38.13mjcah
01:38.27mjcanyone around that can reset my svn pass? :(
01:38.37ckknightmjc, Kaelten
01:38.48mjcKaelten: <3
01:40.12AmadeoClearFont sure makes fonts readable...except when they hang out of tooltips/windows or get replaced by "..." when they don't fit
01:40.35KirkburnThanks
01:40.45KirkburnAs I have said many many many many times, the ... is NOT my fault
01:40.58vid`found the broken mod
01:40.58vid`onebag
01:41.17AmadeoKirkburn: I'm not blaming you for anything, just saying what I see :)
01:41.23KirkburnI've done a little reducing in size for the former problem in the next version anyway :)
01:41.28vid`driving me ntus cause ic ant pull up menu with esc :P
01:41.31vid`and bags dont open
01:41.33vid`:P
01:41.47steev64onebag works fine here
01:41.55vid`it was working :(
01:42.00vid`till i did last svn update 15 mins ago
01:42.03KirkburnAmadeo, just please don't bring up the '...' thing :P Hmm, I wonder if that's ever been fixed
01:42.05DrDrefor _, bb in ActionBars do
01:42.11DrDrewhat would the new format be for that?
01:42.17Temin paris(..) do
01:42.20DrDretrying to fix rogue counts
01:42.44steev64DrDre: is that similar to roguetracker?
01:42.55DrDreadds the regeant count for flash/vanish
01:42.57DrDreto buttons
01:43.17steev64roguetracker does similar, also allows a button to go up to apply poisons to the blades
01:43.22DrDrewith green/yellow/orange/red text
01:43.28AmadeoKirkburn: What's the ... thing anyway?
01:43.31DrDrei dont want a new button, i want it on the actual ability on my bar :P
01:43.38mjcAmadeo: lua5.1 thing
01:43.55steev64i prefer a minibutton on my map, keeps it outta the way, and one less button to show
01:44.07KirkburnAmadeo, an odd bug that affects a certain resolution
01:44.11AmadeoI see
01:44.16DrDreroguecounts doesnt add ANYTHING to the screen :P it puts a label on the button
01:44.25DrDrehttp://kergoth.com:1980/images/wow_060.jpg < like that
01:44.26steev64yes - on what button
01:44.27mjcminimap buttons are retarded
01:44.35DrDrelook at his blind button
01:44.39KirkburnExplanation here: http://www.clearfont.co.uk/readme.html#KnownIssues
01:44.53Kirkburn1680x1050 is the affected res
01:44.56AmadeoKirkburn: I'm 1280x960
01:45.21KirkburnWell, er *seomtimes* it can be due to other factors such as the font being too large =)
01:45.22Kirkburnuhh
01:45.25KirkburnYeah.
01:45.32steev64DrDre: ahh, ok
01:45.34Amadeohehe :)
01:45.53steev64did blizz fix the Config.wtf screenshotFormat with 2.0.1?
01:46.23mjcfix?
01:46.32kergothDrDre, try lern2count, should work as is
01:46.36johTo this day I still find it funny that blizzards config is called "WTF"...
01:46.44steev64with 1.12 i had it set to png and it would still write to tga
01:46.44DrDredoes it have the color coding like roguecounts?
01:46.51mjcyes
01:46.57sergiosteev64 pretty sure that's a macosx feature
01:47.03steev64sergio: ahh
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01:47.57mjcanyone have a link to the latest KLHT
01:47.58mjc?
01:48.11kergothTuller, i've got inventory slots slightly sticking off the edge of the vbagnon frame :)
01:48.26johOneBag is bugged btw.
01:48.31Tullerkergoth: bleh :P
01:48.42steev64DrDre: what is that raid display thing he's using?
01:49.10mjckergoth: where's GridHideBlizzFrames.lua again?
01:49.11DrDreask kergoth: its his pic
01:49.12vid`yea
01:49.18vid`onebag is hosed
01:49.19vid`bad
01:49.19vid`lol
01:49.22Bapstuller: I have a suggestion for the tab buttons.. instead of under the "Baps's bags", can they be put to the right.. between the text and the close button?  =)
01:49.25vid`gonna use bagnon for now
01:49.29mjcvid`: vbagnon
01:49.31steev64kergoth: what's that raid display (i think its a raid display) above the threat meter
01:49.35kergothmjc, 18.7 is in my set at http://covenant.kergoth.com/svn/kergwow/trunk/AddOns/KLHThreatMeter
01:49.37kergothsteev64, Grid
01:50.05TullerBaps: yes, but then the window would end up really long :)
01:50.08kergothmjc, http://kergoth.com:1980/GridHideBlizzFrames.lua
01:50.23Bapstuller: I tend to have columns set to 16 or 18
01:50.24kergothmjc, should work, just stole the code from aguf :P
01:50.29Bapswidescreen monitor..
01:50.29kergothworks for me
01:50.40toddhas anyone had any luck with cycircled and bartender3?
01:50.45toddit's a little messed up
01:50.48TullerBaps: I have mine set at like uhh....7 :)
01:50.49Bapsor an option to put 'em on that same line..
01:51.00BapsI'd be plenty happy with an option
01:51.15deltronmjc: tonights raid should be fun :P
01:51.43mjcgoing to post my addon pack shortly ;P
01:51.46dr|dranorany raid on noth can be fun
01:51.48deltroncool
01:51.53deltroni'm trying to find mods that work
01:51.59deltronso many that we used to use are borked
01:52.07deltrongetdkp is borked
01:52.14Funkeh`anyone having problems with BT3? bars 1-5 keep hiding for me every time i relog
01:52.19dr|dranorspecially when your mages don't know what is decursing by hand
01:52.22[Cu]WerikCurse should be up and running in a few minutes.
01:53.46Krayanyone know why the cartographer button wouldnt attach to the map properly? (i have squeenix and my map is in a different position)
01:53.55DrDreanyone else notice something retarded about this guys compilation pack >_> http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=listyz9.jpg
01:54.28SachsBossmods and BigWigs?
01:54.32DrDreyeah lol
01:54.36DrDrewhy the hell would you have both
01:54.47pastamancerLaVendetta is in there too
01:54.50SachsBagnon and OneBag?
01:54.53TheKarnbigwigs is complaining it cant find Babble-Zone-2.2
01:54.58mjcLV is retarded :P
01:55.11DrDreoh i didnt even see CT Boss mods i was going off fact of LVBM and BigWigs lol
01:55.15johBartender3 complains about the Library "FuBarPlugin-2.0" does not exist. Even though I installed it... Any ideas?
01:55.34TheKarnjoh i had that problem not 3 mins ago
01:55.39TheKarnand ive forgotten how i resolved it
01:55.45dr|dranor[DrDre] because your raid leader may force him to use LVBM for a boss
01:55.46johO.o
01:55.56DrDrecheck of FubarPlugin-2.0 is set as an optional dep
01:56.02beerkeresult = IsSpellInRange(spell, [unit]) , does Unit refer to the player trying to cast it or to the target it is casted on ?
01:56.02dr|dranor*your=his
01:56.04johIn the toc?
01:56.18mjckergoth: your svn hates me, trying to update from 539->852 w/ svk sync
01:56.20kebinusanSachs,  Im using bagnon at the moment, but its a personal preference
01:56.25TheKarnget Ace2, DewdropLib, Justle and there is one more
01:56.27mjcdoesn't even get 1 rev
01:56.28TheKarncant remember how
01:56.33DrDredr|dranor: including 3 boss mods? Someone who wants to manage turning addons on and off wouldnt be using peoples compilations :P
01:56.57johFuBarPlugin-2.0 is set as an optional dep yes.
01:56.58dr|dranorlol
01:57.02ckknightclasstime
01:57.02Sachskebinusan, I was commenting that screenshot DrDre posted. ;P
01:57.15Jakobudis BabbleLib depreciated?  (use Babble-2.2 instead?)
01:57.21johAnd the libs directory is empty - is that intentional?
01:57.22kebinusanoh
01:57.23BapsI believe so
01:57.23dr|dranordid not notice ctra bossmods
01:57.27johi.e. Bartender3/libs
01:57.29kebinusanthats what I get for coming back from being afk
01:57.39vhaarrJakobud: yes
01:57.43Jakobudty sir
01:57.45toddthe only thing I use skinner for is the bottomframe, is there an addon that does just that?
01:57.45DrDrefor no externals yes it should be empty, use standalones :P
01:58.31johDrDre: I believe SVN checked out *with* externals but...
01:58.35dr|dranorvhar: you are Rabbit isn't it?
01:58.46DrDresvn is borking with externals today
01:58.49Funkeh`hmm
01:58.52Funkeh`this 'focus'
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01:59.00Funkeh`is like a PlayerTarget in oRA?
01:59.05johUhm, I just discovered that I didn't use svn - I used the zip.
01:59.09vhaarrdr|dranor: yes
01:59.24kergothmjc, oh, do an svn mirror relocate, use covenant.kergoth.com rather than just kergoth.com.  switched kergoth.com to my local server, the other still runs the svn
01:59.49mjcI am
02:00.07sbuWTB 2.0 improvedrwf :)
02:00.24dr|dranorthere's a little issue with bw and ctra users, in bossblock module bw tries to hook ctra message frame but it fails and spits a hook error
02:00.31sbumahhhhh
02:00.38johDrDre: So the zip is missing some files or?
02:00.40vhaarrdr|dranor: With the latest CTRA?
02:00.43BapsI believe that the zips aren't being built properly at the moment.. you're quite right that they're not including the libs they should be (the "externals")
02:00.59Greywindpoor poor mod sites hehe, getting slammed hard this patch since nothing will work and people are forced to update thier addons >.<
02:01.02vhaarrdr|dranor: Give me a BugSack error on pastey.
02:01.06Bapsthe way to get things working right now is to get the libs separately
02:01.18dr|dranorapparently, could not test myself, but several guildies complained about it
02:01.36dr|dranorworked by adding a true at the end of the hook call
02:02.04johI still get the error about FuBarPlugin-2.0 :-/
02:02.05dr|dranorwill try now that my server is up
02:02.05vhaarrdr|dranor: I can imagine - I'll just do that now as a temporary workaround.
02:02.19DrDreyes joh: externals arnt being included properly on alot of things, grab the standalonelibaries and just use those :P
02:02.21vhaarrdr|dranor: Do you have BugSack?
02:02.33vhaarrdr|dranor: If not, get it.
02:02.36dr|dranornope, but i can get it if you tell me where
02:02.43Bapsjoh: right.. so go to http://www.wowace.com/files/ andget the FuBarPlugin from there.. and Ace2 and the other libs it's missing
02:02.53vid`any way to hide the party members when in raid with agunit_frames?
02:03.03DrDrewww.wowace.com/files bugsack and buggrabber
02:03.08johDrDre: Baps, DrDre: And drop them in Bartender3/libs?
02:03.15vhaarrdr|dranor: http://fanetworks.net/wowace.html, get BugSack and !BugGrabber.
02:03.19DrDreno in your addons folder
02:03.19vid`addons root dir
02:03.20Bapsjoh: no, directly in your addons dir
02:03.26johBaps: Ok, thanks.
02:03.28DrDrethey are blank folders you gotta use WAU to update them
02:03.39DrDreor manually update them
02:03.55DrDreso each libary is its own addon
02:04.15Bapssomeone should update standalonelibs such that it doesn't include the obsolete libs
02:04.42Temsomeone should purge SAL from the svn
02:04.48DrDreeh?
02:04.54DrDrewhy would you do that lol
02:05.05Tembecause you shouldn't do that
02:05.16DrDrepff nothing wrong with standalones :P better imo
02:05.22johBaps: Ok, did that and still get the same error.
02:05.28DrDreonly way addons are even working currently >_>
02:05.34Temno, there is nothing wrong with standalones
02:06.06TemI have an issue with using SAL to load EVERYFUCKINGLIBRARYPOSSIBLE even when you might not need them all
02:06.08Bapstem: standalonelibs just has empty dirs for each of the libs.. so you can easily populate wowaceupdater
02:06.27Temoh?
02:06.30Bapsand since none of the zips are being built with externals at the moment.. that's handy
02:06.38kebinusanhmm alt+right click to move the oRA frame isnt working for me cause of a silly windowed mode issue, what file do I edit to change that binding?
02:06.45Temah ok
02:07.16Bapsjoh: are you quitting out each time?  it's a new addon.. so you can't just reload the UI
02:07.17DrDreand they are LOD tem: so if they arnt needed they wont be loaded :P
02:07.26Temmeh
02:07.28TemI spose
02:07.34johBaps: Yep, I quit wow each time.
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02:07.38sbuHEH
02:07.48johBaps: I downloaded FuBarPlugin-2.0 and put it in my AddOns directory. Same error.
02:07.51vid`hmm
02:07.57vid`Hide party frames in raid isnt working
02:07.59sbuwtf - all servers on execpt mine
02:08.00beerkebigwigs zip file misses balbble-zone-2.2
02:08.01vid`with aguf and ora2
02:08.04sbu(and 3-4 others)
02:08.05vid`anyone else have that prob?
02:08.19Bapsjoh: did you get all of the ones listed as optional deps in the toc?
02:08.34Bapsfubar needs 3-5 libraries
02:08.40johBaps: Just discovered that FuBarPlugin-2.0 are missing some deps...
02:09.06DrDreif u jus get all the libs from standalone libaries itll work fine :x
02:09.07Bapsyeah.. you need to go all the way down the chain... sorry
02:09.10johCan I just install the !!!StandaloneLibraries package or do I have to install them manually?
02:09.18johBaps: Yeah, thanks.
02:09.28Bapsyou can use standalonelibraries.. but they are just empty dirs
02:09.40beerkeDrDre, that is just a workaround imo, not a solution
02:09.43Bapsafter you unzip it.. you have to use wowaceupdater to actually get the libs
02:09.55beerkeMods are missing libraries that should be included with the mod
02:09.58DrDreyes it is, alot of us use that method as normal updating means
02:10.05johAh ok, can I install standalonelibraries through wowaceupdater aswell?
02:10.10Bapsbeerke: yes.  the zips are not being made correctly at the moment
02:10.19Bapsjoh: unfortunately, no
02:10.23DrDreyou gotta manually place the folders in addons first then use WAU
02:10.28johBaps: Hmm ok...
02:10.30VII|Beheritmhm my XRS is buggy, i cant make buffbtns or bars. no function like on which classes is clickable
02:10.31VII|Beherit:(
02:10.35mjcmother fucker
02:10.46mjcno addons, no cache, no WDB or WTF, and I can get on one account but not hte other
02:10.59toddwhat's the advantage to using the standalone libs?
02:11.28Bapstodd: normally, not much IMHO.. but at the moment, it's easier than manually fixing the embeds
02:12.17mjclast time I lever log out in a fucking BG
02:12.19mjcfuck
02:12.35VII|Beheritbut standalone isnt up2date or is it?
02:13.08Bapsthe zip doesn't actually include anything except empty dirs for all the libs so that wowaceupdater knows what to get
02:13.28VII|Beheritah ok
02:13.29Bapsand it's not even up to date in that it includes a number of obsolete libs still
02:13.48VII|Beheritso btw WTF is with ag_uf? no more group raid by (healer tank dps)
02:14.18VII|Beheritand whats the "focus layout" for
02:14.27Bapsit can only sort in bliz allowed ways now
02:14.37VII|Beheritomg
02:14.37Bapssince it's the bliz code doing the sorting in the secure header
02:14.40vid`man
02:14.43vid`i need perfectraid
02:14.45vid`this isd riving em nuts
02:14.46vid`lol
02:14.47johMe too :/
02:14.51vid`raid frames take up 3/4 of my screen
02:14.54VII|Beheritand "focus layout"?
02:14.57vid`i was trying to get ag_unitframes to look like perfect raid
02:15.00vid`but i dont think its possible :P
02:15.03vid`unless you run a huge res
02:15.24Funkeh`onebag/bank/view are bugged to hell btw, spammed about table_setn
02:16.00mjcthey are not 2.0 ready
02:16.06vhaarryes they are
02:16.15vhaarrckknight just borked them, I think.
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02:16.16johAccording to http://fanetworks.net/wowace.html they are.
02:16.18vhaarrwith his latest commit.
02:16.18mjcah
02:16.41Kaeltenwhats goin on?
02:17.04vhaarrKaelten: ckk removed some lua51 checks from a One* thing and it broke.
02:17.05mjcKaelten: need my svn pass reset ;P
02:18.07[FH]Birdemanianyoen got a wau linky for me please?
02:18.11mjckergoth: where's homefiles
02:18.24mjcnm got it
02:18.43joh[FH]Birdemani: google.com
02:18.49[FH]Birdemani:(
02:19.00joh[FH]Birdemani: Dude, it's the first match.
02:19.15[FH]Birdemanik
02:19.31snurredoes ludwig work in 2.0?
02:19.40Tullersnurre: yes
02:19.46Eternally777There's a 2.0 version, but yes it does unmodified
02:19.51snurresweet.. now i just need to find a dl of it :p
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02:21.47johYay, Bartender3 :)
02:22.15Funkeh`yes
02:22.23Funkeh`onebag/bank etc totally borked
02:22.29Funkeh`even hitting escape doesn't work
02:22.30johAnd it includes a cooldown count! <3
02:22.33snurrenerf the size on cartographer o.O
02:22.34SachsFuckin' awesome.
02:22.36Funkeh`give me a onebank error lol
02:22.39Krayakingot an error in bartender3 http://ace.pastey.net/3146 was trying to bind mousewheel up i to a button.
02:22.45VII|Beheritgrml i am gettin crazy, ag is best but i need to know what focus layout is used for :D
02:23.11SachsOur ML can't deal out the loot 'cause all the groups are 'greyed out'. :o
02:23.33SachsGG Blizzard. :(
02:23.51VII|Beheritand why does "Create new grp" dont work?
02:23.54TheKarnis there any way to hide Sanity2.0's bag button?
02:24.03Eternally777I'm getting spammed with clique's
02:24.22Eternally777errors :( "attempt to index field 'cc'"
02:25.50Krayakinare there any plans to add in the "target friendly" page switching to bartender3?
02:26.14vhaarrEternally777: Clique isn't Ace.
02:26.47mjcKrayakin: bt3 is not done yet
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02:26.57snurrenecronomicon not compatible :/
02:27.02kebinusanvhaarr, getting this upon zonein to naxx:  BigWigs_HealbotAssist\SEEA-2.0-Events-Only.lua:243: Bad argument #3 to `Register'. Must be in the form of "Name-1.0". "SEEA-2.0-Events-Only" is not appropriate
02:27.12dr|dranor[vhaarr] i tested myself that, but could not get the error, but i have foun the screenshot from my guildie http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/6927/errsj3.jpg
02:27.24TheKarnanyone know of a mod that allows you to scroll chatframes using mousewheel (and hides the up down buttons?)
02:27.29vhaarrkebinusan: ... great, thanks.
02:28.28vhaarrdr|dranor: Okay, thanks, it should be fixed now.
02:28.30dr|dranorbut i did not install ctra bossmods, going to try now
02:28.31Bapskarn: prat
02:28.36Bapsdoes all that and more
02:28.54snurrebt3 doesnt work? :(
02:28.56johAnyone good with Visor2 here? :)
02:29.31nevcairielsnurre: not?
02:29.34mjckergoth: RA layer request failed: REPORT request failed on '/svn/kergwow/!svn/bc/852': REPORT of '/svn/kergwow/!svn/bc/852': 200 OK (http://covenant.kergoth.com)
02:29.51snurrenevcairiel: im getting errors at least
02:30.02snurre[2006/12/07 03:26:04-1-x1]: Bartender3\Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua:3: attempt to index global 'Bartender3' (a nil value)
02:30.26nevcairielare you sure you have all files ? :P
02:30.39snurrewell
02:30.45Funkeh`is /focus raid wise?
02:30.50snurrei sure hope so, just took it straight off the site
02:30.51kergothmjc, hmm thats odd
02:30.55snurrehow can it lack files?
02:31.03mjckergoth: svk sync --skipto HEAD
02:31.05nevcairieldunno
02:31.08mjckergoth: uses the svnsync stuff
02:31.13nevcairielbut that error somply cannot happen
02:31.21vhaarrkebinusan: Should be "fixed". Silly rule IMO.
02:31.22nevcairieltry http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/bt3/Bartender3-r19413.rar
02:31.26Bapsa lot of the zips aren't getting their embedded libs included
02:31.46johIn Visor2, how do I find the name of a frame on the screen?
02:32.07Funkeh`does anyone know if /focus is for the whole raid or just you?
02:32.12kebinusanjust you
02:32.12nevcairieljust you
02:32.16Funkeh`ty
02:33.31FFOS|Darcliteai who updated one bag before?
02:33.37SachsWhat's /focus?
02:34.19snurreit's to set a "default" target
02:34.29snurreso you can instantly retarget your focused target
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02:35.12snurrei hate logging in with the "fitality!" sound
02:35.33VII|Beherithas anyone an link to an ctraidtracker + eqdkp export?
02:35.54dr|dranorthere's one in wowi
02:36.22snurreseems AceLibrary is causing a ton of errors here :(
02:36.24johAnyone familiar with Visor3 here?
02:36.27johErr, Visor2
02:37.12Krayakinnevcairiel: not sure if you saw my pastey error, but its http://ace.pastey.net/3146
02:37.49vhaarrKrayakin: That's a AceConsole bug.
02:37.56vhaarrKrayakin: So poke ckk about it.
02:38.19vhaarrOr, hm, no.
02:38.57vhaarrDepends, since he invokes the keybindingValidateFunc directly, he might want to validate the input in BT3.
02:39.20Tricksta_Hey
02:40.14Eternally777a friend of mine says she has sRaid turned on, but it's not showing up in FuBar's plugin menu.
02:40.20Eternally777Anyone experiencing this issue?
02:41.06Krayakinalso have a question about agUF. I'm getting an "ag_UnitFrames has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI." whenever I try to duel someone, no error occurs when someone tries to duel me
02:41.08dr|dranor[VII|Beherit] http://www.dark-requiem.com/mods/CT_RaidTracker_1.3.3.zip get it and tell me when you're done
02:41.55Goebhurm... oCD doesn't seem to work ...
02:42.16Bapsgoeb: sounds like a personal problem :-p~
02:42.28Goebbut I used protection :(
02:42.38BapsI don't remember if it was working for me last night or not.
02:42.56BapsI'll check on it shortly.. bout 3 minutes left on the clock in the game
02:43.00snurreuhm
02:43.08Tricksta_Ummmm
02:43.09snurreare the folders in !!!StandaloneLibraries supposed to be empty?
02:43.16Tricksta_So whats fixed?
02:43.17Tricksta_hehe
02:43.23Bapssnurre: yes.  now use wowaceupdater to populate 'em
02:43.25Tricksta_Yes SNurre
02:43.35Tricksta_Now update with WowaceUpdater
02:43.41snurreBaps: that's what i just did
02:43.42Tricksta_It will fill em up
02:43.46snurreused WAU
02:43.46Tricksta_Go here
02:43.49snurreand theyre still empty
02:44.00Tricksta_http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons
02:44.13Tricksta_It shows how to do it step by step
02:44.19FryGuyis there a wowace.com/files mirror?
02:44.26Bapsthe wiki is down at the moment
02:44.32snurretheres no info there
02:44.34Bapsdue to load
02:44.55GoebAddOn 'MailTo' tried to call the protected function 'MailTo_InvUse_Save()'.
02:44.55GoebMailTo\MailTo.lua:435: in function `UseContainerItem'
02:44.58snurreWAU -> check !!!StandaloneLibs -> SkipVersionCheck False -> Installed marked addons with externals
02:45.00snurrethat should work, right?=
02:45.07johNobody here is using Visor2?
02:45.24Tricksta_Are all the empty dirs in the ROOT of your addons folder?
02:45.36snurreno, inside !!!StandaloneLibs
02:45.37Tricksta_http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons <----------------- Serious step by step it works
02:45.40FryGuyhttp://72.14.203.104/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=zaT&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowace.com%2Fwiki%2FHow_To_Update_Beta_Addons&btnG=Search
02:45.43FryGuytry that
02:45.44snurreFFS, wiki DOES NOT WORK
02:45.45snurregeez
02:45.48FryGuyworks :D
02:45.58Tricksta_Take all folders inside Strandalones and put em in the ADDON folder root
02:46.17FryGuymy question is where is the wiki to update your own mods to beta
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02:47.21Bapsfry: you might be better off at wowwiki.com for that
02:47.31Tricksta_C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns
02:47.44Tricksta_All the folders under !!standalones should be in that directory
02:47.52Tricksta_You have to move em there
02:48.05Tricksta_Then go to WAU
02:48.11Heriosomeone in my guild just said that curse's release of bartender and ... another ace2 mod, i forgot which were detected as containing keyloggers
02:48.13Tricksta_and make sure that
02:48.26[Cu]Werikhmm
02:48.43[Cu]WerikLet's take a look into that rumor:P
02:48.53Herioyes...
02:49.04Tricksta_sheet
02:49.11johAny easy way to align a bar horizontaly in bartender3?
02:49.19Tricksta_Delete Before Extracting is checked to TRUE
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02:49.25snurreHerio: unless you actively run something within those downloads, i find that hard to believe
02:49.33Tricksta_for fucks sake the wiki is down, sorry I did not see that
02:49.59Tricksta_Snurre I can dcc the current libs to ya to unzip into - C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns
02:50.05Tricksta_I just updated them this morning
02:50.12Tricksta_if that makes it easier
02:50.21snurreupdating now to see how it goes
02:50.24TheKarncan we not use trinkets from macros now?
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02:50.26Tricksta_ok
02:50.35johHmm, can't say cyCircled seems to work that great :P
02:50.50Tricksta_for fucks sake Wow Patch shuts all the flickin servers down, even ace wiki
02:50.56Tricksta_and my phone wont stop rining!
02:51.13mjcleave it off the hook
02:51.21ZyphrL2wau?
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02:51.47[Cu]WerikHerio, no way you can remember the other addon, Bartender2 is not infected
02:51.50JagobahI have a few popular mods on ftp://67.19.139.94/ if the wowace servers are too slow
02:51.59Tricksta_I am so pissed off that getting an addon right now is like trying to get laid by a Alien Hooker
02:52.06sbuhm
02:52.09Zyphrlmao
02:52.09Tricksta_Thanks Jago
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02:52.20sbuKaelten? :)
02:52.26Tricksta_Anon login Jago?
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02:53.00VII|Beheritis there a way to reset skinners settings?
02:53.12Zyphrdelete saved variable
02:53.14VII|Beheritto default
02:53.22Tricksta_Delete the settings in WTF folder
02:53.22Zyphrskinner.lua / skinner.kua.bak
02:53.26VII|Beheritmhm k thought there would be a cmd
02:53.28Tricksta_ooops
02:53.40Zyphreasiest way is to just delete shit
02:53.51VII|Beheritkkthx
02:54.12Tricksta_Brb I am gonna go beat up my neighbor to get out my anger
02:54.15sbuKaelten: OneBag needs 1 more bank slot
02:54.19vid`anyone have a prob with MT window in ora2?
02:54.24vid`as in its not showign
02:54.37[Cu]Werikhttp://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4966/bugsack/
02:54.37[Cu]Weriklook look
02:54.52VII|Beheritlook server error?
02:55.04[Cu]Weriknooo
02:55.14VII|Beheritwhat then?
02:55.50dr|dranoryou released too soon new portal
02:55.59Firedancerhrm. anyone else that uses vBagnon that can't move their bank window even when it is unlocked?
02:56.14Zyphri tried that crap, cant sort pots =(
02:56.27[Cu]Werikwe changed the layout
02:56.30haarmdefinitely a server error werik
02:56.38haarmchanged the layout of the error?
02:56.47DrDrelogged in with skinner/fubar plugins disappeared :(
02:56.47[Cu]WerikI have no error :O
02:56.51Firedancererr nvm
02:57.01Firedancernow it's working. lol
02:57.01haarmServer Error
02:57.02haarmWe are sorry, there was an error processing your page. This is probably due to a server restart, hopefully, the website should be running again in a few minutes
02:57.06[Cu]WerikDid you try to refresh?
02:57.27dr|dranorrefreshing 2 times helps
02:57.33Zyphrbtw whos in charge of the svn?
02:57.35haarmok, it's thinking about it, but it's not doing anything
02:58.20Tricksta_Anyone have a fast FTP shell somewhere where full WoWAce Addons can be posted, then the channel topic can be changed for that site? I am working on a shell on a supercray right now, just waiting for a call back from my friend at UNLV
02:58.35JagobahI have a fast FTP
02:58.41Jagobahbut I'm not hosting all the addons
02:58.52Tricksta_Thanks Jago
02:59.04sbuuhm
02:59.10anenigma_dunno how fast it is
02:59.10sbuag`: hide frames in raid doesnt work
02:59.20JagobahI have a few popular mods on ftp://67.19.139.94/ if the wowace servers are too slow
02:59.21anenigma_but i got a webhost w/ ftp access
02:59.24Zyphrdo u understand the bandwidth hed get pwnt with?
02:59.27Tricksta_Connecting to you now
02:59.32TheKarnJagobah you dont have outfitter :P
02:59.41haarmmy ftp i use from the shell prompt is really fast, I type ftp, and as soon as I hit enter it's there
03:00.10Tricksta_Any Ops on that think these nice ppls ftps can be posted on chan topic since wiki is down and such or am I pushing it?
03:00.21Jagobahoutfitter isn't updated
03:00.28haarmuse ClosetGnome
03:00.29mjcclosetgnome.
03:00.36TheKarnclosetgnome SUCKS
03:00.53haarmit sucks your brains out and turns them into an attractive broach
03:01.07TheKarneither that or half the features are hidden
03:01.15kergothargh
03:01.16Tricksta_ooops your site does not support PASV...sec changing settings
03:01.17Zyphryou need other addon parts
03:01.18TheKarni want to be able to generate outfits
03:01.18haarmdid you try clicking the icon?
03:01.24Zyphrok
03:01.26kergothi forgot to disable closetgnome_ohnoes before this run
03:01.29Zyphrright click it on fubar
03:01.32Zyphrand choose add
03:01.40waffle^_I'm using outfitter in 2.0
03:01.40kergothi was the last dpser up on the end boss in underbog and couldnt do the final evis to finish him
03:01.45haarmno no Zyphr, now you just double click it :D
03:01.46kergothdue to my weapons being in my inventory :P
03:01.52Zyphrboth work
03:01.55Zyphrmeh
03:01.57TheKarncan i create an outfit that maximises my +dmg? or +healing?
03:01.58Tricksta_Btw - Bartender 3 = THE OWN
03:02.14Zyphron its own?
03:02.16haarmat least paging is working now, that's all i really ever wanted from bartender
03:02.18Tricksta_Jagobah: I am getting list failure and disconnect on your site
03:02.19mjckergoth: sorry :(
03:02.22kergothhehe
03:02.24Jagobahok most of closetgnome isup
03:02.26kergothmy own fault for not disabling it
03:02.32kergothi should do a little module to disable it automatically when in instances
03:02.34kergothor so
03:02.55abyssichatejesus, grid rocks
03:02.55haarmhm, what does it do, unequip weapons at low health?
03:02.56TheKarnand does closetgnome have the quickswap drawers in the char window?
03:03.14Tricksta_My two favorite WowAce addons atm = Cartographer / Bartender 3
03:03.14haarmTheKarn, it has a quickswap whatsit on the fubar
03:03.18Zyphrdoes anyone know where i can get the svn script to zip up shiz
03:03.23abyssichatehaven't tried cartographer
03:03.38TheKarnhaarm i'll try it again...
03:03.46abyssichateat the moment I can't understand why ag_unitframes still displays my party unit frames when I am in raid even if I've checked the "Hide frames when in raid"
03:03.49haarmactually, you can make it even quicker by binding any key you like to a costume :D
03:03.51Tricksta_Ckk Wrote it, it is gonna blow away Mapnotes,Metamap, Atlas, etc etc
03:03.52vid`abyss
03:03.53vid`i think its a bug
03:03.58vid`just hide the party frames when in raid
03:03.59vid`:P
03:04.02vid`thats what im doin atm
03:04.08Krayakinonebag errors: http://ace.pastey.net/3151
03:04.09abyssichateI am hiding them 24/7 and keeping grid up
03:04.21haarmyea i like grid too
03:04.36abyssichateI wonder if you can get indicators for who is soulstoned and such
03:04.41abyssichatein grid, that is
03:04.46haarmwho remembers that song by The Grid - Swamp Thing
03:04.52SachsI do.
03:04.58pastamancerabyssichate: Status -> Auras -> Add new Buff -> "Soulstone Resurrection"
03:05.04SachsWhat was that? 1995? ;P
03:05.06abyssichateAwesome
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03:05.22haarmsomething like that
03:05.26ToastTheifDon't worry guys, Im back!
03:05.31haarmdance banjo track or something
03:05.33netcursehttp://wow.curse-gaming.com anyone geting server error still?
03:05.46anenigma_ToastTheif: \o/
03:05.49Tricksta_[L] PORT 192,168,1,100,10,2
03:05.49Tricksta_[L] 200 Port command successful.
03:05.49Tricksta_[L] LIST
03:05.49Tricksta_[L] 150 Opening data connection for directory list.
03:05.49Tricksta_[L] 425 Cannot open data connection (10060).
03:05.49Tricksta_[L] List Error
03:05.52abyssichateUhm, pastamancer: there is no Auras menu - and neither is there something similar
03:05.54Krayakinand another onebag error: http://ace.pastey.net/3152
03:05.55waffle^_netcurse: works for me
03:06.19pastamancerAuras is under Status
03:07.01Tinhayhmm, is there an option to get the "old" Grid look back, with the square being filled with one line of text (just the name) instead of two?
03:07.15SachsTricksta_, what'cha doin'? ;P
03:07.21ToastTheifhow's wowace.com doing? any faster?
03:07.27Bapstinhay: no, but it wouldn't be too hard to write a plugin that did that
03:07.30SachsTricksta_, do some portforwarding or use PASV mode! :D
03:07.42Tinhayi see
03:07.59haarmor don't list the directories and guess the filenames :D
03:08.01abyssichatepastamancer: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2299/wowscrnshot120706040654rg3.jpg
03:08.13Tinhayi just compared the new 2.0.1 grid with my old 1.13 screenshots and it somehow looks completely different, might just be the setup though
03:08.14Tricksta_odd server does not support PASV
03:08.27Tricksta_and let me check port forwarding but it should be fine
03:09.05kebinusanI do have to say wow.. a guildmate just complained because Grid has '
03:09.10kebinusantoo many options
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03:09.19Bapsheh
03:09.27Bapsit's certainly very flexible
03:09.41haarmi want grid to put the buttons in a circle
03:09.43waffle^_well, 'too many options' can overwhelm the user.
03:09.44Tricksta_got it, thanks!
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03:09.49SachsKickass.
03:10.03abyssichateI can't find that Auras menu indeed :s
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03:10.18haarmwaffle^_, i think that's why it is now broken down into an "Advanced" menu
03:10.28waffle^_Jeol Spolsky wrote about Vista's shutdown menu having too many options.  http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/11/21.html
03:10.33Tricksta_Nice speed on that FTP
03:10.57waffle^_.Schwartz, drawing extensively on his own work in the social sciences, shows that a bewildering array of choices floods our exhausted brains, ultimately restricting instead of freeing us. We normally assume in America that more options ('easy fit' or 'relaxed fit'?) will make us happier, but Schwartz shows the opposite is true, arguing that having all these choices actually goes so far as to erode our psychological well-being..
03:11.06Tinhaysomething must have changed with the alpha of out of range/offline units in the recent revisions, i just can't get it to look the way it did ~1 week ago
03:11.10pastamancerabyssichate: I'm not sure how you managed that
03:11.16abyssichateuhm
03:11.17Tricksta_Nice one you have Perl on there also!
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03:11.24abyssichateI just downloaded grid and installed it, that easy
03:11.25Tricksta_Is that the latest release?
03:11.38pastamancerabyssichate: http://grid.13th-floor.org/zip/Grid-r19326.zip
03:11.40abyssichateusing WAU
03:11.45haarmwaffle^_, what do we assume outside of america?
03:11.53leech2komg someone update archud
03:11.54abyssichatechangelog-r19334.txt
03:11.58abyssichateI think I've got that release
03:11.59rw3Unable to remove MTTT box from oRA2 :(
03:12.05Arrowmasterhaha this is so much fun, our xrealm bgs are broken and were doing server only avs now
03:12.28Bapsleech2k: I heard a rumor that wowinterface has a beta that should work..
03:12.36Bapshaven't tried it myself yet 'tho
03:13.17leech2khmm kk
03:13.32johIn Bartender3, how do you remove the semi-transparent black square behind each button?
03:13.32anenigma_icehud isn't too bad
03:14.07Goebok, so ocd doesn't seem to do anything anymore... and chronometer shows global cooldowns for things with multi-minute cooldowns
03:14.16mjcFUCKING fuck. I logged in a BG and it won't let me back on
03:14.29Tricksta_Awesome FTP site with some of the more well known addons is up at : 67.19.139.94 (Thanks for setting it up)
03:14.38leech2kthx baps
03:14.48Bapssure thing
03:14.52waffle^_do all the addons on that ftp work in 2.0?
03:14.55abyssichateShardtracker 3G is such a failure duh
03:15.41Sachswtf.. :/ increasing rate: 40kb/s
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03:17.25Tricksta_Whats that Sachs?
03:17.26Silvi'm getting ridiculous increasing rate as well
03:17.31LiddaPardon, but I am having trouble with some Ace addons and was hoping I could get a poke in the right direction here. :)
03:17.58Tricksta_How did you update them Lidda?
03:17.58LiddaI used to use the no-ext versions of BigWigs, etc.
03:17.58LiddaIt was just drag and drop.
03:18.09FeidanAnyone else being unable to execute /cast commands while running ace addons?
03:18.19LiddaBut now... !!!Libs is gone. So I used the normal version, and get error messages about missing libs nonstop now...
03:18.34LiddaDid I miss a step?
03:18.36SachsTricksta_, my UI.
03:18.45Bapslidda: easiest way to do it at the moment is with wowaceupdater
03:18.51LiddaWhat is that?
03:18.54Tricksta_Oh fark Sachs......runaway Addon?
03:19.00SachsIs that normal in Patch 2.0 'cause of the LUA 5.1 stuff?
03:19.02SachsNo idea.
03:19.10SachsIncreasing rate.. 75kb/s
03:19.11Tricksta_yeah Wow Updater, want me to Dcc it to ya Lid?
03:19.16Silvi actually hit 73kb/s
03:19.19Silvyeah, same Sachs
03:19.21LiddaBaps: Is it an application?
03:19.22Tricksta_Ugh crap thats not good
03:19.23Silvmy UI was at 62mb
03:19.26rw3joh: From the right click menu
03:19.28Silvin raid
03:19.31Bapslidda: yeah.. you can get it from sourceforge
03:19.39LiddaOk... is there a Mac version? :/
03:19.41VII|Beheritmhm need an raidtracker 2.0 compatible
03:19.42VII|Beherit:X
03:19.46Firedancerargh. so hard to see if things are bugs in addons when you can't get to the sites to view the comments >.>
03:19.49rw3joh: More specifically style -> default for example
03:19.50Silvoutside of raid was 21kb UI
03:19.51Bapsprobably not.. it's a .net app
03:19.53VII|Beherithow should i track our raid tmrw
03:19.54Silver 21mb
03:20.00LiddaOk... so the not so easy way then? :(
03:20.01Bapsso I guess you'll need to do it the hard way
03:20.06LiddaGo get all the addons it asks for?
03:20.13Bapswell, go to www.wowace.com/files and get the libs it's missing.
03:20.18Tricksta_Did someone post a link to a fix for ONEBAG...WAU did not fix it
03:20.20Bapsace2, etc
03:20.21kebinusanSilv, been having a similar issue
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03:20.39Silvnot sure what the culprit mod is
03:20.40Silv:(
03:20.41Tricksta_I knew that I should have ripped the page content
03:20.47Lidda(is there a way to find those all at once? Some way to see which they are, instead of downloading one, adding, starting, writing down what was missing... downloading... etc)
03:20.52FryGuygrr wau is bugged out cause of the server messing up :(
03:21.05Bapsyou can look at the toc files of the mods and look at the optionaldeps line
03:21.13LiddaHmm
03:21.20TheKarnwhat's wrong with onebag? i havent had any errors yet
03:21.35abyssichateme neither
03:21.42PigBenishey guys some of my addons aren't working
03:21.46abyssichateI've been having some random error with autobar but that is it
03:21.48LiddaOkay, I found it, I'll have a go at that, thanks. ;)
03:21.55Tricksta_Lidda : Download
03:21.57Tricksta_http://www.wowace.com/files/
03:21.59Tricksta_and get
03:22.05Tricksta_!!!StandaloneLibraries/
03:22.14Bapstricksta: she's on a mac
03:22.17Bapsno wowaceupdater
03:22.20Tricksta_ooops
03:22.22Lidda:(
03:22.25Tricksta_cry
03:22.27mjcuse svn, if you're on a mac
03:22.33Tricksta_Lidda can you unrar on mac?
03:22.36LiddaYes
03:22.41mjcuse svn
03:22.55PigBenisis something going on? some of my addons aren't working
03:22.56LiddaUm..
03:23.06LiddaI'll have a look at svn.
03:23.10Tricksta_Sec let me update libs and I will Send the libs to you to unrar to : C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns
03:23.24LiddaWell, the path will be different, but that sounds great. :)
03:23.49Tricksta_ok whatever the main folder is for your addons
03:23.58Lidda:)
03:24.42Eternally777is there something opposite to 'unpack()'?
03:25.03pastamancerEternally777: do you mean { }?
03:25.54Sachs"Increasing Rate: -1234.5 KiB/s" fnu.
03:26.05Eternally777heh.  I guess so.
03:26.33kergothlocal f ={...} -- :P
03:26.49pastamancerkergoth: ewwww :p
03:26.58kergothgenerally bad policy, but he asked :P
03:27.11snurreanyone have ludwig? wowi is a bit iffy
03:27.12leech2kwhat are u guys using for raid bars now?
03:27.13Eternally777So that's how you access the values in ...?
03:27.17pastamancerselect
03:27.19leech2kperfectraid doesnt seem updated
03:27.21kergothpastamancer, http://kergoth.com:1980/GridHideBlizzFrames.lua
03:27.24Eternally777select?
03:27.24kergothEternally777, no
03:27.26pastamancerkergoth: I saw
03:27.30kergothselect(4, ...) returns values 4 on up
03:27.37kergothselect('#', ...) returns the # of elements
03:27.41Tullersnurre: http://tullamods.googlepages.com/
03:27.55kergothpastamancer, might want to include it or something similar, perhaps disabled by default
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03:28.41pastamancerkergoth: nah, if I include that then people will start asking for target and focus frames :p
03:28.46Eternally777anyway to iterate through them?
03:28.53snurrehm, while im asking.. is oCB available anywherE?
03:28.53Eternally777Or.. I guess there would be no need
03:28.55TheKarn-seen Ruinna
03:28.56kergothhehe
03:28.57Eternally777nvm, I figured it out
03:29.02kergothi thought about asking for those :P
03:29.09kergothbut i'm happy with my HUD, wishing it had focus
03:29.17pastamancerfor i=1,select("#", ...) do local v = select(i, ...)
03:29.21Bapssnurre: it is, but it's reportedly not working
03:29.24Eternally777yep
03:29.32mjckergoth: I still can't get on, stuck in the fuckin BG
03:29.34snurreBaps: that's what i thought :(
03:29.35Tricksta_Lidda can you accept DCC?
03:29.37kergoth:(
03:29.38Eternally777that's exactly what I figured out lol
03:31.17LiddaYes.
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03:31.23LiddaHmm.
03:31.27Goebocb works, ocd dun't
03:31.35LiddaTricksta_: Did you send it?
03:31.42LiddaMy Firewall might be playing tricks if you did..
03:32.36Tricksta_Sending it my SENDSPACE all libs up to date as of 2 mins ago
03:32.38Tricksta_Sec
03:33.02Goebhenge fall down go boom!
03:33.13GoebI'm just havin all kindsa luck t'nite ;)
03:33.14Lidda:O
03:33.15kergothi hate it when new gear makes me look like a jackass
03:33.37kergothmiss my set stuff
03:33.54pastamancerkergoth: it's a shame there isn't all sorts of obnoxious-looking armor in WoW
03:33.56Tricksta_http://www.sendspace.com/file/6ej253 = Latest Libs Updated 7:29 PST
03:34.01Codayuswtf, OneBag broke?  :-(
03:34.04mjcI hate it when I can't log in
03:34.10Tricksta_Seems OneBag is broke on my end
03:34.17kergoth15 people in my guild stuck in bg
03:34.19kergothguess theres no bwl tonight
03:34.21LiddaTricksta_: Thank you! :)
03:34.22haarmag` ag` ag`
03:34.26mjckergoth: RAQ
03:34.39Tricksta_Welcome Lidda hope it helps your addon issues, downloading from SVN can be a pain in the ass
03:34.45Lidda:)
03:35.33haarmcan someone who is registered here paste http://ace.pastey.net/3155 to ag` in a pm so he sees it :)
03:35.37pastamancerkergoth: http://kyle.13th-floor.org/images/sangerin-eyesore.png  everquest was great before armor dyes made everyone look boring :p
03:35.48kergothhahah, ow
03:35.51mjcpastamancer: hahaha
03:35.58rw3Any tips to make 'ESC'-key work again? Nothing happens!
03:36.43CodayusArg.  Anyone know what revision of OneBag buggered it?
03:36.48Herioreload ui?
03:37.03Tricksta_Oh well half my guild is not online so no raid, gonna go read all the complaining about Decursive type addons being removed on msg boards ..lol
03:37.23Tricksta_Cody: OneBag is giving me an error also, no idea..it was working great last night
03:37.28CodayusYeah
03:38.10ToastTheifsame
03:38.13rw3Herio: As if I haven't tried ;)
03:38.31Tricksta_Awesome FTP site with some of the more well known addons is up at : 67.19.139.94 (Thanks for setting it up)
03:38.44vid`hmm weird
03:38.47vid`i lost my pet bar
03:38.52vid`for the mage water ele
03:39.18toddin AV?
03:39.50mjcwhatever you do don't log out in a BG you'll get stuck
03:40.07ToastTheifyea ><
03:40.10ToastTheifmy mage is stuck in AB
03:40.17vid`ahhh i see
03:40.18ToastTheifand OneBag has like 13 errors lol
03:40.36Tricksta_Wtf, it was working ...sigh
03:41.40CodayusTry r19304 for OneBag
03:41.46CodayusSeems to fix it.
03:41.54snurreonebag and dewdrop seems to be generating tons of errors for me
03:41.56LiddaHmm, one more question, of a mostly curious nature; Why are addons on the "OptionalDeps" list throwing these errors? Shouldn't they be... optional? :/
03:42.18kergothLidda, its optional to have them standalone
03:42.24LiddaOh.
03:42.27kergothlibs are required in one form or another, either embedded or not
03:42.29LiddaI follow now. :)
03:42.39Bapsthey're normally included in the addon.. but it's broken at the moment
03:42.39ToastTheifIm just gonna wait
03:42.44toddif they are standalone, are there performance improvements?
03:42.47ToastTheifno addons, no WoW, lol
03:43.02LiddaBroken? Thank you... this seemed unusualyl unintuitive.
03:43.09LiddaI hope it improves. :)
03:43.16Bapsit's the load, I think
03:43.25toddyeah, that's what I was thinking
03:43.30LiddaThat would make sense...
03:43.36Bapsso many people hammering the servers
03:43.36Tricksta_Lidda just make sure they all in the root addon folder and you should be good to go
03:43.47Tricksta_gosh damn one bag
03:43.57pastamancerabyssichate: do you have an aura menu now?
03:43.58kergothuse vbagnon
03:44.00kergothvbagnon is happiness
03:44.02LiddaI'll toss them all in...
03:44.05abyssichateYes pastamancer
03:44.13abyssichateI was missing some libs Ithink
03:44.13Tricksta_Thanks Ker
03:44.18DrDrewhyd they remove the searc hfunction of vbagnon
03:44.19Tricksta_Will do
03:44.27kergothvbagnon is bagnon, but with support for categorization like enginventory and stuff.  quite nice
03:44.30kergothDrDre, its ar ewrite
03:44.34kergothDrDre, he hasnt added it back in
03:44.35kergothyet
03:44.35TullerDrDre: /find <name>
03:44.44kergoth<PROTECTED>
03:44.48Silvwtb EngBags!
03:44.49kergothi need to use it more
03:44.57DrDreand good lord outfitter freezes up alot when changing gear :(
03:45.19DrDreis that part of bagnon or new wow command?
03:45.20kergothoutfitter has a few issues. it used to cause 450K ram usage spikes whenever i'd loot :|
03:45.33TullerDrDre: its part of bagnon, and spot is being added back eventually
03:45.39TullerDrDre: but I have to worry about bongos first :)
03:45.46DrDrelol
03:46.11DrDrei didnt use search much but find works :P i was jus curious where it had went lol
03:46.23anenigma_Tuller: where do you want me to post feature requests for vBagnon?
03:46.49Tulleranenigma_: yell at me here, or on wowinterface when its back up
03:47.08abyssichate165 K/S increasing rate, this is no good :E
03:47.09Tricksta_Vbagnon on curse or where might I find it?
03:47.20anenigma_Here will do then.  just looking for a way for the 'dragged out' virtual bags to be sticky, so when you log, they stay
03:47.41anenigma_atm they all close, but the categories for my custom bags stick
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03:48.11TheKarnwtf? i'm sure touch of weakness worked on ranged aswell...
03:48.48DrDrewoo new informant rocks gives more details on ZG coins
03:48.48Tulleranenigma_: right now, the temporary frames are temporary
03:48.56TullerTricksta_: curse, wowinterface, ui.worldofwar
03:49.16LiddaThanks again everyone. :P I'll be back sometime probably... errors stopped and addons work again. :) /cheer
03:49.25anenigma_Tuller: yeah, i realise.  i want them to have an option 'not temporary' or something :D
03:49.32Sachsabyssichate, yeah, I've noticed those kind of increasing rates too.
03:50.02SachsI'm wondering if it's 'normal' since Patch 2.0. :/
03:50.10anenigma_Tuller: it'll be a simple autobar replacement, that doesn't select 'which' potion to use, but displays them all, etc
03:50.43Tulleranenigma_: eventually I hope to make something similar to the bag frame, but with virtual categories
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03:51.29Heriowhy do authors update their TOC and post new versions that DON'T WORK
03:51.52toddI used WinAceUpdater to download some addons without externals. Is there a way to quickly see a list of libs that are required?
03:51.54pastamancerto confound you
03:52.01HerioI AM CONFOUNDED
03:52.07HerioTHEY HAVE WON
03:52.15nymbiaHerio: which ones?
03:52.22anenigma_cool, blazing speed procs while mounted
03:52.32Herioitemrack, pcuf, and autobar
03:52.43Heriotwo of these are not ace, i realize =)
03:52.58HerioCTRA was janking too
03:54.43nymbiawhat's pcuf?
03:55.22PigBenisman what's going on with all my addons? Since the patch they've been really messed up
03:55.43kergothPigBenis, i hope you're joking
03:55.49Herioperl classic unit frames =/
03:56.11PigBenisi am, teehee
03:56.14anenigma_PigBenis: latrov?
03:57.01Amadeohahaha
03:58.15johcyCircled is having trouble hiding what's outside the circle it seems.
03:58.40AmadeoI think MSBT might be lagging me, but I'm unsure
03:58.58abyssichateSecureTemplates.lua:816: table indes is nil
03:59.04abyssichatedoes anyone get that ?
03:59.17SachsBah.. :/ "AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'aUFgroupAnchorparty:Hide()'."
03:59.18abyssichatein \Interface\FrameXML
03:59.36pastamancerabyssichate: it's a blizzard error.  http://ace.pastey.net/3154 if you're really interested
03:59.57abyssichateThanks
04:00.56Tricksta_vbagnon is seperate addon or part of the bagnon package?
04:01.12Tullervbagnon is bagnon :)
04:01.13Bapsits the replacement for bagnon
04:01.20Tricksta_ahhh ok
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04:02.50Nomad_Wanderercan someone offer some assistance on ora2?
04:03.21abyssichateI'll deffo replace necrosis with henge I guess, necrosis is like a memory sink
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04:03.54Tricksta_Isnt there an Addon that tracks addons that are trashing up your memory, for those who see KiBs and MiBs growing?
04:04.03MikkZzzthere is
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04:04.14MikkZzzwell, it's educated guesses, but ..
04:04.17Tricksta_Cause people reporting issues
04:04.25Cairennnight MikkZzz
04:04.34MikkZzzerr that is, there WAS one pre 2.0 but no idea if it's been updated =)
04:04.37MikkZzzgnite cair ;)
04:04.41Tricksta_<abyssichate> 165 K/S increasing rate, this is no good :E
04:04.54abyssichateI unloaded autobar and it is looking a lil better now
04:05.02SachsYeah.. I'm seeing those crazy increasing rates too. :/
04:05.08Tricksta_<Sachs> "Increasing Rate: -1234.5 KiB/s" fnu.
04:05.10abyssichateare you using autobar by any chance, Sachs?
04:05.51Tricksta_hrrrm
04:06.11SachsTricksta_, yeah that was after the fight when I stood still for a while. ;P Guess it decided to reclaim some memory.
04:06.16Sachsabyssichate, nope.
04:06.19SachsNo Autobar.
04:06.35kebinusanTricksta_,  if you find out what it is, lemme know
04:07.21Tricksta_Yes I am trying running around in city right now
04:07.28SachsSince Patch 2.0 my addons are using a lot more memory even though I'm running a lot fewer of 'em.. and most of 'em are the same, just updated version. :/
04:07.35kebinusanI was going to guess simple combat log, but I havent tried disabling it
04:07.50SachsUsing it.
04:08.01SachsAlso, MSBT.
04:08.27kebinusancould be a number of things though
04:08.31Tricksta_Sachs are you running libs in main addon dir and using ace addons without externals, or are you running addons with externals?
04:08.47Tricksta_right now I am running strictly ace material
04:08.59Tricksta_winace addons I mean
04:09.04TheKarnanyone know where the arena masters are?
04:10.27SilvNYI
04:10.36kebinusanmy guess would be something that does combat log parsing just cause it seems to go really high in combat for me
04:10.54SachsTricksta_, I'm running libs in main addon dir and ace modes without externals.
04:10.56FryGuy[2006/12/06 20:09:08-380-x1]: BugSack\BugSackFu.lua:16: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Cannot explicitly inherit from the same mixin twice
04:11.02FryGuywhat does that mean :/
04:11.21Tricksta_Samehere Sachs
04:12.10FryGuyBugSackFu = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceDB-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0")
04:12.13FryGuythat's line 16
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04:12.49FryGuybut it only happens when my own addon is messing up :(
04:13.24FryGuygrr this is frustrating :(
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04:13.45Tricksta_I think TekSUpport
04:14.07TomeddAnyone know if there's a working GetLink or Ludwig?
04:14.16Tricksta_r19187 | rabbit | 2006-12-05 12:02:57 -0500 (Tue, 05 Dec 2006) | 1 line = TekSupport
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04:14.37FryGuyGRR WHY DOESNT MY ADDON WORK /CRY
04:15.17AmadeoAnyone know if Tem is here?
04:15.24TullerTomedd: there's an updated ludwig on wowinterface
04:15.33AmadeoI keed, I keed
04:15.48Tricksta_Sachs: Grab TekSupport from WAU
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04:17.16Tricksta_- Shows memory use or execution time totals and averages for implemented options
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04:17.30AmadeoI need that
04:17.48Tricksta_Then Grab tekSupport from WAU
04:17.50Amadeoyeah
04:17.51SilvSachs, let me know how that works out - i'm having the same issue and will grab TekSupport as well
04:17.51Amadeoworking on it :)
04:18.14Tricksta_Its up to date so thats a good thing
04:18.16Tricksta_:)
04:18.40[FH]Birdemanican autoattack be fixed to work on 2.01?
04:19.11toddanyone having problems with serious buff timers?
04:19.23kergoth[FH]Birdemani, afaik AttackTarget is completely locked down, period
04:19.40TheKarnpriest is the most unviable pvp class there is
04:20.11AmadeoNot at all
04:20.17AmadeoPriests rock!
04:20.19kergothshadow priests kick ass in pvp imo
04:20.19toddit's a small mod and the line causing the problem is this:
04:20.20todd<PROTECTED>
04:20.35todd"attempt to call field 'mod' (a nil value)"
04:20.38pastamancermath.mod -> math.fmod
04:21.32kergothor use %
04:21.32Prophyyanyone getting very low FPS??
04:21.39toddawesome, thanks
04:21.42Nomad_WandererAre you using CTRA?
04:21.45toddwho maintains seriousbufftimers?
04:21.48Prophyyusing ORA2
04:21.49Nomad_WandererThere's some really bad CTRA code floating around
04:21.52TheKarnok, let me put it like this, it takes 3 times as long to kill someone as a priest then it does to kill a priest
04:22.04Prophyyhearing all these clicks
04:22.22Prophyydisabled ora2 same stuff bad fps lag
04:22.51AmadeoTheKarn: You may need better gear, or you're fighting people who outgear you
04:22.59haarmwhat can i use to see what's causing my memory usage to increase?
04:23.07Prophyywarmup
04:23.24haarminitial memory 20mb, current memory 25mb, increasing rate 15kb/s
04:23.28haarm*35mb
04:23.38abyssichatehow do you load up tekSupport once you install it ?
04:25.12toddany mages experiencing a high amount of resists?
04:25.34Prophyyhow do u repliace icons in bartender? ctrl and drag item?
04:26.24snurreexcept for shadowpriest you mean
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04:26.55FryGuyhmm
04:27.04FryGuyis there an addon like tinypad but aced
04:27.20FryGuyi would look on wiki but broken :(
04:27.29johWhat's tinypad?
04:27.30FryGuynot aced, but on forums
04:27.34FryGuygrr
04:27.40FryGuyon wowace.com/files
04:27.47TainWhy?  Tinypad is... pretty tiny.
04:27.54johRight :P
04:27.54FryGuyya it is :p
04:28.06Silvhrm, cant seem to get tekSupport working ><
04:28.09johI have no idea unless you tell me what Tinypad does :P
04:28.36FryGuyit's an editor window that lets you run scripts in it
04:28.56johOh... Sorry, don't know :P
04:30.04Tricksta_TekSUpport is not loading in Fubar anymore..aye
04:30.32abyssichateyou have to load it manually
04:30.38abyssichate/ace2 load teksupport
04:30.41Silvyep got it
04:30.45Silvthanks anyhow
04:31.35Krayakinanyone know what's up with aguf and /duel not working?
04:31.35abyssichateSpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 is taking up HUGE quantities of memories
04:31.35kergothor use supply & demand
04:31.35abyssichateI don't know what addon uses that events
04:31.36SilvI actually get a frameXML error in tekSupport when trying to monitor onUpdate
04:31.36Amadeoabyssichate: Do you use MountMe?
04:31.40abyssichateno
04:31.48abyssichateI get that error too Silv
04:33.00Prophyycan't ungroup party/raids bars for AGUF...
04:33.05Prophyyno option lol
04:33.24Amadeoabyssichate: Do you use agUF?
04:33.27abyssichateyes
04:33.31Amadeomaybe it's in that
04:33.31abyssichatehttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1489/wowscrnshot120706053207fx8.jpg
04:33.34abyssichateI think so
04:33.47abyssichateit is when it parses units auras
04:34.29SachsEesh.. 47KiB/s increasing memory. :/
04:34.49abyssichateare you using ag_uf, Sachs?
04:34.49AmadeoI had 90KiB/s in AB
04:35.03Amadeoand tons of GC
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04:35.12AmadeoI'm not using agUF though
04:35.46SachsYou don't suppose it's 'normal' with the Lua 5.1 changes and stuff?
04:36.26AmadeoI doubt it's normal, it may be a bug though..I dunno
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04:39.04Funkeh`hmmm
04:39.31Silvi simply cast a few spells on myself just now in IF and mine went up
04:39.42Silvadmittedly i'm not sure what i should be looking for in tekSupport thuogh
04:39.46ggilbert_hmm, am I missing something or was CastSpell supposed to be working outside of combat?
04:39.48Silvhighest time?
04:39.54Silvmem/exec?
04:39.59Tricksta_TekSupport right click in WAU = r19187 | rabbit | 2006-12-05 12:02:57 -0500 (Tue, 05 Dec 2006) | 1 line
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04:40.12sergiohas anyone else experienced extreme fps lag when using bt3 and switching weapons using /equipslot
04:40.19Tricksta_However the changelog on download is only up to 10-19
04:40.27sergioif i disable the addon it goes away it seems
04:40.39Funkeh`oRA2_Participant/resurection.lua:259: unkown unit token: 'name@ from oRA2 replace 'name' with any name you type /tar 'name'
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04:41.26Funkeh`type the name of an unkown unit or out of range unit
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04:43.09PigBenisso are the new lua changes pretty extreme?
04:43.59AmadeoPigBenis: LUA was #1 on Animal Planet's "The Most Extreme"
04:44.31AmadeoThey showed some dude jumping over a house holding 600 books
04:44.46PigBenisthat's extreme
04:45.24kergothlua 5.1 isnt hugely different, its blizz's api thats changed more greatly
04:46.20banditronare there functions to get the bonus damage/healing shown on the char page?
04:47.06FryGuygrr i can't find a mirror of the new msbt :(
04:47.55SachsFuck..
04:48.00Sachs116 KiB increasing
04:48.15SilvSachs: i'm not sure what i'm looking for
04:48.26kodewulfcan anyone direct me to a download link for WAU?
04:48.36SachsNo idea, Silv
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04:48.38SilvSachs: but i notice that when I cast a handful of spells on myself, SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 is blowing up like woah in TekSupport
04:48.42PProvostsf.net/projects/wowaceupdater
04:48.54PProvosthttp://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater
04:49.00Silvthe only two things that stood out were durabilityfu and specialevents-aura
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04:49.24kodewulfPProvost: thx... :)
04:49.28PProvostnp
04:49.39ckknighthey all
04:49.43PProvosthey ckk
04:49.56banditronso the only new spell stat functions are crit chance?
04:50.45Tricksta_Silv, how do you get TekSupport working? It is not showing as an option in FuBar?
04:51.03Silvi did /ace2 load tekSupport
04:51.15Tricksta_Thanks for the info Silv
04:51.19Silvanyhow, I disabled specialevents-aura
04:51.27ckknightgot a microphone, hoorah
04:51.29Silvi'm still jumping up to 43kb/s+ when casting a spell
04:51.38Silvbut tekSupport isnt seeing the culprit
04:52.00Tricksta_hmmm
04:52.13banditroncasting bar?
04:52.19Tricksta_Shows memory use or execution time totals and averages for implemented options
04:52.21toddhow do I sort addons in WinAceUpdater
04:52.30Tricksta_Group then ungroup
04:52.34Tricksta_Todd
04:52.35ggilbert_Does anyone who is familiar with the fubar plugin api know if I'm onto a loser trying to get make it work witha SecureButtonTemplate?
04:52.41ckknightyes.
04:52.43toddoh thanks tricksta
04:53.00ckknightI recommend leaving that to me to implement when I get time, ggilbert_
04:53.04nymbiait'll explode in a big way, ggilbert.
04:53.18zoomjrAce2 has been blocked from an action only aviable to blizzaed default ui ..... wtf?
04:53.28zoomjr*blizzard
04:53.29nymbiazoomjr: what were you doing?
04:53.33ggilbert_ckknight: Then I'll take your word for it there. :)
04:53.38Krayakinckknight: quick question about carto, the minimap button is not attaching to the minimap (i'm using squeenix) and i can't move it either
04:53.49ggilbert_Was experimenting with ideas on fixing TransporterFu :)
04:53.50ckknightKrayakin, that's not Cartographer.
04:53.50zoomjrclick main menu icon on mod FuBar_MicroMenuFu
04:53.59Tricksta_btw Carto is gonna blow all other map programs out the water
04:54.06Tricksta_no sucking up intended
04:54.07ckknightTricksta_, I know
04:54.10PProvostMentalPower, I think I heard you say the Auctioneer alpha mostly works, is that right?
04:54.14ckknightvote it up at wowinterface
04:54.21Tricksta_k k
04:54.25MentalPowerPProvost: right
04:54.29ckknightonce it comes up.
04:54.30ckknight:-(
04:54.32Krayakinckknight: any ideas what could be causing it?
04:54.39PProvostThanks
04:54.40nymbiaKrayakin: that's not cartographer's, it belongs to the default UI.  i added an option to squeenix to hide it, /squeenix hide worldmap
04:54.40MentalPower#norganna for bug reports
04:54.45ckknightKrayakin, oh, Squeenix probably hasn't implemented the capability.
04:55.23Sachsomfg
04:55.27SachsWe kill Chromaggus.
04:55.29Krayakinahh, ok thanks :)
04:55.31SachsAlliance-side.
04:55.35PProvostMentalPower, got it.
04:55.39SachsAnd two Epaulets of Ten Storms drop.
04:55.41Sachs...
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04:55.43Krayakinlol
04:55.44SachsSeriously. ;P
04:55.45SachsWTF
04:56.03Freedonfreedon is a tree
04:56.05Freedon:D
04:56.12ckknightFreedon, ?
04:56.18SachsFreedon the Druid!
04:56.22FreedonYES>
04:56.25SachsEverybody knows Freedon~
04:56.27FreedonFREEDON THE TAUREN DRUID
04:56.29Freedon:DD
04:56.40Freedongod, i've been feral my entire druid life
04:56.46Freedonand damn, I've never healed that good.
04:56.58snurredoes CyCircled work?
04:57.28Freedoncheck the toc
04:57.28Eternally777What's the /command to stopspellcasting
04:57.31Freedonif its 2000
04:57.32Freedonfirst
04:57.34Freedonif its not
04:57.39nymbiaEternally777: /stopcasting
04:57.39Freedontest on the servers?
04:57.43ckknight20000, Freedon
04:57.49PProvostsnurre, it runs... but it seemed to not make Bar3 look quite right.
04:57.59PProvostThat was yesterday. Haven't tried it yet tonight.
04:58.04Freedonckknight, whatever
04:58.09FreedonDon't code, don't care :D
04:58.22FreedonI've only hacked one addon in my life, and that was cyArt
04:58.46Freedonchanged it from bottom to top :D
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04:59.44FreedonAnyone know if Superinspect was updated
04:59.48Freedonand where it would be located?
05:00.18snurrenoes! neither bt3 or cycircled has any effect on my petbar :(
05:00.56Freedonwtf?
05:01.04FreedonBartender3 is not fuctioning?
05:01.06Freedon:O
05:01.11snurrewell
05:01.16Sachssnurre, yeah, the pet bar's keeping that annoying border..
05:01.17snurreit kinda works
05:01.23snurrebut doesnt change the looks
05:01.37FreedonBTW, someone updated CooldownCount
05:01.52Freedonor does it just need a .toc change?
05:02.07Goebwhats the macro to use bottom trinket?
05:02.31snurrei can get used to these round buttons :p
05:02.43snurrehttp://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4462/overnukeruiwh7.jpg
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05:03.21Freedonhacks
05:03.24Freedonno way you can get
05:03.29Freedon-1566.0 kib/s
05:03.32Freedon:P
05:03.35snurre:p
05:03.52Freedonand ew to necrosis
05:03.53restoredanyone able to get pageswapping to work in bartender3 ?
05:03.54Freedonhenge?
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05:04.09Freedonbtw, I want your computer
05:04.13Freedon60 FPS I wish.
05:04.22FreedonI only get like 46 FPS when im out in the open
05:04.32Freedon10ish in raids
05:04.34Freedonso choppy
05:04.43snurremy comp is over a year old :(
05:04.54Freedonand you get 60 fps,
05:04.55Freedonspecs?
05:04.56snurrewtb my friend's comp.. he's running at 60fps in naxx while we're aoeing trash
05:05.04Freedonomfg
05:05.15Freedonwtb ram and a video card
05:05.52snurreamd64 3800+, 2gb corsair ram, geforce 6800ultra is my setup
05:06.05snurrekinda crap really, but it runs wow well enough to survive
05:06.29Freedon2bg of ram
05:06.31FreedonWTB
05:06.34Freedon512 here...
05:06.36Freedonnubsauce
05:07.01snurreouch
05:07.07PigBenismy motherboard just died the other day, it was an old agp setup, i need a complete new system now =/
05:07.15Eternally777Want to talk about oldskool?  P4 Northwood, 3.06GHz with good ol' HT
05:07.44SilvAMD Semperon 3100 ftl :(
05:08.10PigBenisi've got a P4 Northwood 2.6 lol, well i had anyway
05:08.19snurrecycircled is cute btw.. just wtb it to work on petbar! :p
05:08.20PigBeniswith a 6800gt, but it actually ran wow pretty well
05:08.26Freedon30 inch monitor
05:08.28Freedonnow that would be
05:08.30Freedonsweet
05:08.57snurre22" widescreen here
05:09.11Freedonrunning like an 18'' here
05:09.17Freedonplaying at like .5 ui scale
05:09.31Freedonto even fit the stuff needed for raiding
05:09.38Freedonand still seeing what we are doing
05:10.19pastamancerI can add the mini-compost back to SEEA, but that's just trading cpu time for GC time.
05:10.24snurre1680x1050 gives a little bit extra space compared to my old 1280x1024 at least
05:10.44snurrebut the biggest diff is the size.. it's soo big now :D
05:11.17Nomad_WandererHim.. I'm looking for a mana saver.. Ie. a spellcanceler I mash while I'm casting that cancels the spell if someone else heals up the target I'm healing.
05:11.33Nomad_WandererIs that still possible under the 2.0 api?
05:11.35Freedonthey used to have an addon
05:11.36Freedonthat did that
05:11.38Freedoni believe
05:11.58Nomad_WandererDo you remember any thing about it? like a name or something?
05:12.32Freedonnope
05:12.33Freedonit was nerfed
05:13.01FreedonGod if they ever made a bot that raided for you
05:13.04Freedonwow, I would use it
05:13.05leech2kare there issues with agUF raid frames?
05:13.07Freedon:D
05:13.35Nomad_WandererI'm not looking for a bot, just something to help me stare at barcharts less.
05:13.48FreedonNah, I'm just dreaming right now
05:13.58FreedonGod, it raids for you, bids for you,
05:14.00johYay, is OneBag fixed?
05:14.01FreedonWowo.
05:14.03PProvostIs One* very broken right now?
05:14.27Freedonimagine logging onto the game and finding out you won 10+ epics
05:14.29Freedonrofl
05:14.30Freedon:O
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05:14.49PProvostrestored, no. I haven't been able to get it to work in bar3.
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05:15.13Freedon?
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05:15.37PProvostDammit. I still can't scroll my chat window. With or without Prat installed.
05:15.42PProvostIt has to be something else...
05:15.48FreedonYou missing the arrow buttons?
05:16.00Freedonor check blizzar'ds ui?
05:16.03PProvostClicking the arrow button doesnt' scroll either.
05:16.09PProvostDisable prat... arrows don't work.,
05:16.09toddyou guys know a lot about how well addons are coded, what do you think of KLH threat meter?
05:16.15toddpersonally, I don't like the interface
05:16.19toddbut is it coded well?
05:16.23FreedonKLHThreatmeter looks like poop
05:16.26toddyeah
05:16.39Freedondon't know aobut coding
05:16.51toddis there an alternative, perhaps?
05:17.44Freedonnot that i know ofg
05:18.09pastamancerhmm, it looks like files isn't as horribly slow as it was earlier
05:18.11Freedonhttp://www.ckgunslinger.com/images/WoWScrnShot_120606_UI_v2.jpg
05:18.13FreedonWTF
05:18.19Freedonworking cycircled + bartender 3?
05:18.39Eternally777What's the "SecureAnchorButtonTemplate" for?
05:19.04toddthat's cycircled?
05:19.07Nomad_WandererCan someone name afew of the ace2 raid unitframe mods? I can think of Grid,.. but that's about it.
05:19.16Nomad_WandererThere's also perfectraid once its updated..
05:19.18pastamancersRaidFrames
05:19.18toddsraidframes
05:19.30pastamanceraguf has raid frames too
05:19.40Nomad_WandererThanks.
05:19.51Nomad_WandererI had a huge win tonight with the rest of the guild in AQ40
05:20.30Nomad_WandererCT_RA fell apart, and I had people over to Grid and clique quickly.
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05:20.38FreedonCT mods are remade
05:20.39Nomad_WandererI'd like to be able to suggest ora2 as a ct_RA replacement. And I'm writing up a forum post that talks about who the ace2 concept allows different raid unit frames.
05:21.00Nomad_WandererYes. but there was still problems even as of 8pm est tonight.
05:21.02ckknightcool, Nomad_Wanderer
05:21.05FreedonoRA2 + Bigwigs + Grid + Clique = CTRA + CTBossmods + Decursivev
05:21.14Nomad_WandererHuge lag problems with people  leaving and joining.
05:21.16ckknightthere's Grid for Raids, agUF for parties
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05:21.27Freedonthats 2.00 ace2 raidng compared to 1.12 raiding
05:21.39FreedonClique looks fun
05:21.41FreedonLeft mouse = Abolish
05:21.44Nomad_WandererIf only the right click could be bound :)
05:21.46Freedonor something
05:21.50FreedonShift Left = Abolish
05:21.57FreedonCtrl Left = Decurse
05:21.58Azurewrathckknight: did the syntax in Deformat-2.0 change?
05:22.04Freedongive me ideas
05:22.13ckknightno, Azurewrath
05:22.18Freedonfor Regrowth, Rejuv, Swiftmend, Abolish Poison, and Decurse
05:22.22PigBenisdoes detox work btw?
05:22.23ckknightjust made it more efficient
05:22.25ckknightand fixed bugs
05:22.29ckknightno, PigBenis
05:22.32PigBenisdamn
05:22.39PigBenishope it gets going, if possible
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05:22.54Azurewrathweird... using NanoStats2 without problems in tbc.. but it throws errors in live 2.0
05:23.04ckknightit won't, PigBenis
05:23.09FreedonDetox works
05:23.16Freedonyou cannot click anything on it
05:23.17Freedonjust shows who needs the crap
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05:24.09AzurewrathNanoStats2_Damage\NanoStats2_Damage.lua:280: in function `obj_method' and Deformat-2.0\Deformat-2.0.lua:204: in function <...NanoStats2_Damage\Libs\Deformat-2.0\Deformat-2.0.lua:201>
05:24.21Azurewrathline 280 says if ( not damage ) then _, _, damage, _ = deformat(arg1, SPELLLOGSELFOTHER, BLOCKED_TRAILER)
05:24.59Freedonbtw, is EPGauge or EPMeter ever going to be continued?
05:25.03Freedonnever worked for me.....
05:25.50ckknightAzurewrath, what's the actual error?
05:25.52PigBenisman i just can't imagine playing my priest anymore =(
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05:25.52Azurewrathckknight: [2006/12/07 06:23:02-611-x1]: <unknown>:<in C code>: in function `join'Deformat-2.0\Deformat-2.0.lua:204: in function <...NanoStats2_Damage\Libs\Deformat-2.0\Deformat-2.0.lua:201>NanoStats2_Damage\NanoStats2_Damage.lua:280: in function `obj_method'AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:285: in function `TriggerEvent'AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:846: in function <...\AddOns\MobHealth\Libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:839>
05:25.52ckknight...great
05:25.52FreedonPigBenis, Priest review sucked ballz, spec shadow, Druids and Shaman got decent reviews
05:25.55Freedonhealing wise.
05:25.57Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page
05:25.58Kaeltenback up, slow, but back up
05:26.23ckknightAzurewrath, BLOCKED_TRAILER is nil.
05:26.39nymbia_thanks for all the work on it over the last couple days, Kaelten :)
05:26.58Kaeltennot sure I won't have to turn php back off we'll see but connections are down so I'm hoping it'll be stableish
05:27.16FreedonYES KAELTEN
05:27.18FreedonTHE FORUMS ARE UP:D
05:27.18Azurewrathckknight: mhm.. so i could just remove it from the args?
05:27.30Eternally777Freedon: Highly doubtable.  Unless someone else picks it up.
05:27.33ckknightindoor voice, Freedon
05:27.40ckknightAzurewrath, I suppose so
05:27.42Freedonckknight, sorry :*(
05:27.51FreedonEternally777, why'd you stop developing it
05:27.53Azurewrathsame for RESIST_TRAILER?
05:28.20Kaeltenya I have the other conf file saved so I can turn it off quick lol
05:28.25ckknightRESIST_TRAILER still exists
05:28.33Azurewrathok, thanks.. will run some tests
05:28.40ckknightI bet BLOCKED_TRAILER was just renamed
05:29.00Eternally777Freedon: Lack of experience.  It taught me a lot, and gave me a much better understanding of Lua and modding in general.  But I'm still not ready to undertake something of that proportion.
05:29.02Nomad_WandererIs there a big wigs zip that has everything in it? all bigwig addons
05:29.13Kaeltensomeone ping me if we start getting 500 errors
05:29.28Freedoneternally77, damn I was really looking forward to it, it was going to be a leet damage meter correct?
05:29.35ckknightAzurewrath, it was changed to BLOCK_TRAILER
05:29.44ckknightAzurewrath, so replace BLOCKED_TRAILER with that.
05:29.47ckknightand commit
05:29.54Azurewrathok
05:30.21Eternally777Freedon: It was to be a damagemeter.  Whether it was leet or not is up to the potential users :P
05:30.38Freedonhehe
05:31.16sylvanaardamage meters are huge projects once you get down to the nitty gritty
05:31.59Eternally777Yeah.  I was too naive in thinking that I could accomplish such a project.
05:32.56sylvanaarnot saying you couldnt...just that it would be your new life if you did lol
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05:33.11FreedonI wish i could make a ui
05:33.13Eternally777Heh, I'm the one saying that I couldn't.
05:33.28Eternally777I'm proud of SacredBuff.  It completes me.
05:33.31Eternally777It'll do.
05:35.20hasteaww, so you've stopped working epeengauge?
05:35.26todddoes anyone know the hex color code of that orange color you often get with |r
05:36.14Freedonhaste, it was Epeen METER
05:36.16Freedongosh :P
05:36.22Freedonand get back to work on oUF :D
05:36.23hastewhatever :D
05:36.36hastea comment like that made me stop yesterday
05:36.40rw3Gief possibility to remove MTTT's of oRA2 :(
05:36.42Freedonfavorite unitframe ever :d
05:36.47hasteit won't today however, as I actually have time to play
05:37.00Freedonhaste, please continue development of oUF
05:37.02FreedonI BEG YOU
05:37.04FreedonI LOVE THAT ADDON
05:37.12hasteI am...
05:37.14Freedonlike I love oRA2, and oCB
05:37.21Freedonand any other o addon
05:37.25Freedonyour work pwnz
05:38.03hastebut when I can't myself, it's not really motivating to sit for hours to work on something, just to get a "omg lolplx finish zoon?!" comment
05:38.19Freedonsorry haste
05:38.39rw3Is it intentional that you can't remove MTTT's of oRA2 maintank frames? And the backgrounds even with no MTTT persists.
05:38.46Nomad_Wandererany place to see screen shots of the  sRaidframes or AGUF?
05:38.49Freedonyou know on the fan version of oUF who added the silver health bar  to ouf
05:39.06BarbanusHomeAnyone suggest a good tooltip mod besides tinytip?
05:39.13Freedonany possiblity
05:39.15Freedonof adding it?
05:39.40GildedAnyone know if updated versions of GroupFu, ReagentFu or HeyFu are in the works? (Or if there are alternatives that are working w/ the patch?)
05:40.00IlendilBarbanusHome: What's wrong with tinyyip?
05:40.02Ilendil*tip
05:40.11hasteFreedon: right now, I want to complete a stripped down version of oUF that works under TBC
05:40.17FreedonTinyTip owns anything out here.
05:40.19leech2kAre there any mods that will show me a countdown on my hots and dots?
05:40.20hasteor rather, WoW 2.0.0
05:40.30Freedonhaste: sweet, stripped down = just ouF player frame?
05:40.39hasteno, regarding features
05:40.44Freedonleech2k, chronometer
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05:40.56NeeblerFreedon: aftt_extreme is better
05:40.58Freedonhaste: oh okay, that just good, no texture choice etc
05:41.10Freedonneebler, how so?
05:41.10hasteI'm also cleaning up the code
05:41.14johYay, One* is fixed it seems :)
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05:41.16hastefixing parts that neronix broke
05:41.25Freedonhaste, hahahaha we can all yell at him :P
05:41.26Neeblerlooks better. has nice big icons to show race/class
05:41.36BarbanusHomeI used to use tipbuddy, and it was way more customizable, first off, I cant move the tip to be relative to my mouse cursor (like, the top left of the tooltip attaches to the bottom right of the mouse cursor)
05:41.39FreedonNeebler, Code > Looks
05:42.37leech2kFreedon: sweet
05:43.21Neeblerwhat about functionality and purpose
05:43.37Freedonall i need to know is there name and level and guild
05:43.40Freedonwhat else do you need?
05:43.51Freedontheir race, class, faction?
05:43.58Freedonnot that to look up :P
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05:45.18BarbanusHomeIts more the fact that I either have to have the tooltip under my cursor, offset it by a set amount of pixels, or stick it on the edge of the screen, just preference I guess.
05:46.45Neeblerfreedon: http://neebler.tetro.net/images/afttextreme_vs_tinytip.jpg
05:46.49Neeblerwhich would you rather have
05:47.06Freedonright
05:47.08Freedonits called
05:47.11FreedonTinyTipOptions :D
05:47.24Neebleryea I configured tinytip
05:47.38Neeblerit doesn't make it look like the left one, in the least
05:47.52Freedonafft is what i used
05:47.55Freedonbefore tinytip
05:48.02Freedonif afft got constant updated
05:48.04Freedonand was ace'2d
05:48.07Freedoni would use it
05:48.20Freedoni'm biased agaist non-ace/ace2'd addons :DD
05:49.23xlviiis shaman duel-wielding that great?
05:50.24Grollxlvii for grinding yes
05:50.39Azurewrathoh btw. can anyone confirm an Error regarding TinyTip in live 2.0? I changed a Hook to SecureHook in line 822 and it's gone.. but i want to make sure if that is correct before i commit.
05:51.17Freedonno idea, I have not even touched ace'2d since the patch
05:51.23Freedondisable all
05:51.26Freedonplay with talents
05:51.30Freedonlife is good
05:51.55Azurewrathhehe, my UI works perfectly.. only some small errors here and there
05:52.26Krayakinthen its not "working perfectly" if there are errors...
05:52.35Freedonhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=53926036&sid=1
05:52.36Freedon:O
05:52.42Freedonace2 is a conspiracy :P
05:52.49FreedonFLEE I SAY
05:52.51FreedonFLEE
05:53.31KemayoCrap.  Do they know about the Winnebago?
05:54.01hasteFreedon: I was waiting for something like that, it happened back in 1.10 also :)
05:54.09Freedonhahaha
05:54.11Freedonhttp://pr0nstar.org/totem-lol.jpg
05:54.13Freedoneven more roflz
05:54.22TekkubI like my music like I like my men.... Dark and Long
05:55.15hastenothing new Freedon :)
05:55.17kergothweab, ping
05:55.19KemayoI like my men like I like my coffee.  Naked and in a burlap sack.
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05:56.45Grollhow was it one made a full download of all the addons with the updater? ie skip version check and get the latest of all? was it just to skip the version check in the preferences?
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05:59.56KemayoDamnit, someone rewrote oCB's "API".
06:00.08hasteI did
06:00.16haste'cause the things neronix added broke it
06:00.47KemayoI'm just very sad because now I have to work out how to hook into it again. ;_;
06:01.03hastenot much work to figure out
06:01.08hastecore/casting.lua
06:02.59TekkubKemayo, yea that was a lie... I don't think there's anything I like the way I really like my men... big and furry
06:04.03Tricksta_SO whats the UF of choice atm?
06:04.16TekkubbUF
06:04.21TekkubBlizzard UF
06:04.23Tricksta_also did anyone find out what is causing the memory spikes?
06:04.31Tricksta_Tek? You serious?
06:04.36Tekkub*shrug*
06:04.40Tekkubam I ever?
06:04.59Tricksta_Hey Tekkub your addon does not work with Fubar have to load it manual /ace2 load TekSupport
06:05.17Tekkubyes, it's LoD
06:05.29Tricksta_oh
06:05.41Tricksta_Missed that in the changelog
06:06.17Tricksta_Is there any /slash commands for TekSUpport or is all options covered on the bar?
06:06.24GrollCairenn any idea when the site will be up again?
06:06.28Tricksta_Alot of people getting major MiBs
06:06.34Grolloh seems it is up just slow :P
06:06.52Cairennas has been for the last 2 days
06:07.45Grollhehe :P
06:08.22Tricksta_Sites are gonna be horked for awhile..which reminds me...I need to go see if there is any bitch fest going on the Blizz boards about the removal of the Decur type addons
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06:09.08anenigma_course there is Tricksta_
06:09.39hasteI'm happy with it, they finally killed it
06:10.08pastamancerhm.  if BGs ever come back up, I'll test some changes to SEEA.  I added a mini-compost for the aura tables
06:10.11Tricksta_Yeah Haste but many guilds found that way of healing etc a feature
06:10.34hastehuh?
06:10.42Freedontekkub, you still here?
06:10.48Tekkubeh?
06:11.02Tricksta_You ignore my question Tek? hehe
06:11.02Freedonyour name is tekkub for your char?
06:11.27Tekkubyes it is, and I'm kinda not paying attention Tricksta_  :P
06:11.36Freedontekkub meet me in org :P
06:11.44Tricksta_Is there any /slash commands for TekSUpport or is all options covered on the bar? Tek ?
06:11.51Freedonyou'll die though :P
06:11.53Tekkuball bar
06:11.58Tricksta_Thanks Tek
06:12.00Tekkuball it does is hook and display
06:12.12Freedontekkub, i gotta meet you in game one time
06:12.20TekkubTBC :P
06:12.22Freedonim the tree ;)
06:12.29Freedonyou raid?
06:12.37minoJust an FYI to any developer...BigWigs isn't showing twin emps teleport timers
06:12.53Freedonmino :O
06:13.01Nomad_WandererJust an FYI.. Bigwigs AQtimers is incompatible
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06:13.06TekkubI don't raid in live, no
06:13.08Nomad_Wandereryou must have bumped the toc to get it to load
06:13.11TekkubI might in TBC
06:13.12Freedontekkub :*(
06:13.13Arrowmasterhmm i dont think SimpleCombatLog is picking up dispell damage from Unstable Affliction
06:13.16TekkubI hated 40-man
06:13.19Tekkubloved 25-man
06:13.22Freedonwhats your class/gear?
06:13.25rw3Arrowmaster: did for me
06:13.28Freedondo ZG and aq20 nubsuace :P
06:13.33Tekkubhunter, shitty
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06:13.48Tekkub2 pieces zandalar, 3 T1
06:13.56Freedoni thought you hated raiding?
06:14.00Arrowmasterim not seeing the damage done at all for when it gets dispelled
06:14.00leech2kmaexna is so easy now
06:14.06Tricksta_Hmmmm, curious. Will a mod like "Warrior" which you set up conditions IE - "If class=rogue"(hamstring)"
06:14.11leech2kwith stacking hots its like easy mode
06:14.18Tricksta_Then you just slap a hotkey in battle
06:14.34FreedonI've got my LOVELY Will of Arlokk, Zandalar bracers, cenarion head and cenarion bracers, jewled amulet of cairwyn :D
06:14.36Tricksta_ummm I meant is that functionality gone also?
06:14.47Freedonbtw, tekkub I hear Shock sucks.
06:14.58Tekkubhuh?
06:15.02Freedon:O
06:15.11Freedonyou don't know about teh SHock sucking?
06:15.20TekkubI just said I hated 40-mans and loved 20-mans
06:15.20Tricksta_IE - Addons like LazyRogue, etc?
06:15.28Tekkubshock?
06:15.28Freedon:O
06:15.32Freedonthe guild?
06:15.47Freedonare you on US or what?
06:15.50Tekkubdon't know that guild...
06:15.53Tekkubyes, US
06:16.06Tricksta_Blizzard never advertised WOW to be a game for oversized Uber guilds. I am glad raid sizes are being capped down.
06:16.23Tekkub40-man is just herding sheep
06:16.24Freedondo you even PLAY?
06:16.27Tekkubit's not fun
06:16.32Tekkubit's boring as hell :P
06:16.39TekkubI don't have a live acct right now
06:16.40hastehaha
06:16.43TekkubI code, I don't play
06:16.44Tricksta_Yeah that is what Everquest is for
06:16.48hasteI was wondering why my macro didn't work, when it shuld
06:16.52hasteshould*
06:16.56FreedonI see tekkub
06:16.59TekkubI hit 60, once, on a class I only took for the free bear
06:16.59hastethen I notice that I haven't specced yet
06:17.08TekkubI don't play solo, it's boring
06:17.09FreedonHAHAHA
06:17.16Freedonhaste, spec?
06:17.17TekkubI don't do 40-man raids, it's boring
06:17.24TekkubI... code
06:17.25FreedonI just started raiding
06:17.27Jagobahback from raid
06:17.28hasteFreedon: I haven't had time to log on before now
06:17.29Tekkubthat's enjoyable
06:17.32kergothwonder if weab would be fine with me checking in a modification to Automaton's AutoLoner module to have an option to accept guild invites from people on your friends list, rather than declining across the board
06:17.34Freedonhaste, spec homo!
06:17.36JagobahI have a few popular mods on ftp://67.19.139.94/ if the wowace servers are too slow
06:17.38hasteno
06:17.42Freedon:(
06:17.55Tricksta_Jago, thanks btw
06:17.56Freedonhomo is cool!
06:18.15leech2kwowace seems to be doing pretty good now
06:18.22Tricksta_Anyone use Perl Classic Unit Frames yet since patch?
06:18.31JagobahI am
06:18.32Tekkubsince the web server was basically taken offline, yes
06:18.38JagobahSo far no problems except when trying to duel
06:18.45Tricksta_How is it Jag? Your MIBs staying low?
06:18.54Tekkubjoe anyuser doesn't hit files or SVN usually
06:18.58JagobahIt's hard to tell.  GCInfo didn't get updated
06:18.59Tricksta_ahhhh cool deal
06:19.07KemayoHuh.  Jewelcrafting recipes are showing up now.
06:19.14Freedonin Live?
06:19.17KemayoYup.
06:19.17Freedonwow, blizz fucked up
06:19.18Tricksta_wth?
06:19.28Tekkubyou're surprized?
06:19.35JagobahRight now there's this clicking sound playing CONSTANTLY while playing the game and it's making it feel like huge GCs at once
06:19.39FreedonPali/Shaman droppings, jewelcrafting,
06:19.40Tekkubthey pushed 2.0 out, they didn't remove anything
06:19.41Freedonrofl
06:19.51Freedonexcept shaman/paladin
06:19.56Freedonand bloodelves/dranei
06:19.56Tekkubthe new content in TBC requires a key to access the new zones
06:20.02Tricksta_No idea what is causing the sound?
06:20.13Freedonyea i know
06:20.20Tekkubthey didn't remove shaman/pally
06:20.30Tekkubyou have to be BE or Draenei to play that class
06:20.39Tekkubwhich you don't have access to without a key
06:21.08nymbia_Jagobah: there were some people on the forums reporting that error too
06:21.09Freedonsomeone give me access to TBC
06:21.15Freedon:)
06:21.19xlviitekkub, so.. your telling me if my character had access to tbc, i could get a blood elf?
06:21.29Tekkubya all got what's been on the beta server, you just don't have access to the new zones were 90% of the new content is at
06:21.56ckknightFreedon, why do you need it?
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06:22.05Freedonckknight, to play of course :
06:22.08Freedoni mean
06:22.11Freedonto develop addons
06:22.15Freedonfor the good of mankind
06:23.34Freedonsrsly, I just want to see how tbc is looking like
06:23.41weabkergoth: feel free.
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06:25.46Nomad_Wandererany idea what ora2buff did?
06:25.58Nomad_WandererIt looks like it's not 2.0 compatible.
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06:26.19Tricksta_Sounds like ORA is horked from all the comments I heard tonight
06:26.36Nomad_WandererThe CT_RA integration is, but it worked fine for us
06:26.37deltronyeah ora was kinda meh
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06:26.51Nomad_WandererCT_RA was way hosed
06:26.56Dhragamorning
06:26.58deltroncan I use ora and ct_rt at the same time
06:26.59deltron?
06:27.06Nomad_WandererYou should try not to
06:27.07BarbanusHomeora was fine for me
06:27.13BarbanusHomebut ctra is screwed
06:27.14deltronct_ra was really weird
06:27.15Tricksta_Well I am sure Cosmos is working perfect ...
06:27.15BarbanusHomemajorly
06:27.18Tricksta_NOT
06:27.34deltronclicking and freezing when people left/joined raid
06:27.39deltronwas quite strange
06:27.55Jagobahso Xloot was updated, but it provides that illegal function thing when you close it
06:28.09Tricksta_sigh
06:28.10JagobahOh yeah
06:28.34JagobahHalf the people use oRA and other use ctra in my guild, and only people with ora could see their own MTs
06:29.11xlviidoes anyone if prat is compatible with 2.0?
06:29.11Nomad_WandererYes. the latest CT_RA changes have not been incorporated into Ora.
06:29.16Nomad_Wandereryes.
06:29.23Nomad_Wandererbut it may cause some macros to not work properly
06:29.27xlviinomad_wanderer, were you reffering to me?
06:29.34Nomad_Wandereryes
06:29.42xlviinomad_wanderer, thank you
06:29.46Nargiddleydid they change how the MTs are sent out ?
06:30.06Nomad_WandererI dunno. But I had to set my own MT's in Ora2 when someone in CT_RA did it.
06:30.15Nomad_Wandererbut not when someone led the raid with ora2
06:30.34deltronyeah i had that issue
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06:31.03deltronok nite all
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06:31.32Gamefaqgood morning :)
06:31.39Okimornings :)
06:32.07vid`i couldnt see MT window with oRA
06:32.13JagobahSo yeah, Xloot says that CloseLoot() is protected
06:32.15Nomad_WandererHmm. Latest Spellstatus - 1.0 is not using securehook?
06:32.15vid`but ctraid was freezing everyone
06:32.18hasteyes, let's all repeat the same sentence!
06:32.22Okianyone of u ppl have any news on icehud.. ?
06:32.49vid`mostly everything seemed to work
06:33.01vid`besides the damn blocked function errors
06:33.05vid`mostly from detox
06:33.14vid`but detox still comes in handy with clique
06:34.15Nargiddleyahh
06:34.37Tricksta_yeah well blizz needs to add back detox functionality. They might lose the hard core players...2 friends of mine said they will quit if it does not come back, 3 say they glad its gone. Me well ....dont matter I guess. Although I liked LazyScript
06:34.37Nargiddleyctra dosent send an id for the tank anymore from what i can see
06:34.47NargiddleySET <name>
06:34.54Nargiddleyinstead of SET 1 <name>
06:35.23Tricksta_Blizz is doing a typical SOny Move. Offering new content and putting in the BIG NERF
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06:35.55Tricksta_or as Blizz would put it - Working as Intended Now
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06:39.51xlviiokay, my friend is about to roll a shaman.. he's going to be grouping with me, a priest.. what stats does he want? agi/sta/str?
06:40.07xlviihe'll mostly be meleeing, dropping the occasional totem, and shocks.
06:40.23johThis is hardly the place to ask, no? :P
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06:41.55xlviiwell, it's the only 'wow' channel on any irc i've found with active people.
06:41.56ckknightjoh, lighten up. We're friendly, helpful people here.
06:42.11ckknightxlvii, spi is good for Shamans, I've found
06:42.15Grollckknight you are and most other, but some sure aint friendly :D
06:42.17ckknightdepending.
06:42.30Grolloh what is spi? or u mean spirit?
06:42.31ckknightI like to set a precedent, Groll
06:42.53gixmorning! why does the UI bitch when i want to click a button in macro with  /click <button>? the button was created with CreateFrame("Button","<button>",nil,"SecureActionButtonTemplate")
06:44.12Neeblerckknight, when is your wowradio interview?
06:44.23ckknightNeebler, Dec. 22
06:44.32ckknightI had to push it back a week cause of finals
06:44.44Nomad_WandererOk.. need an addon recomendation
06:44.52Nomad_WandererI love grid.. but I also want to see my mana numbers
06:44.59Nomad_WandererI think I might need unit frames.
06:45.07ckknightor a grid plugin to show mana.
06:45.14Nomad_WandererAre there grid plugins?
06:45.18Bapsyep
06:45.22Grollhmm ckknight i was asked by some dev here to post what ace addons i didnt have gotten updated  yet and such, but i dunno in what darn forum to post it in.. should i post it in teh dev or general u think? :P
06:45.22Nomad_Wanderer!!!!
06:45.24Bapsyou can't get at them easily right now
06:45.24ckknightyea, that's how grid works.
06:45.34Bapssince the wiki is toast because of the load
06:45.38Nomad_WandererYou don't understand how much grid has already impressed me
06:45.46Nomad_WandererI'm not bad at navigating branches..
06:45.55Nomad_Wandererwhere can I find some grid addons?
06:45.59ckknightGroll, dev, I'd say
06:46.02xlviianyone have screenshots of grid, i've heard it talked about a lot.
06:46.06Grollthere are some on wowinterface i think
06:46.22Grollxlvii just check wowace.com it's slow but it does load
06:46.34Nomad_Wandereris wowi still feigning death?
06:46.36Bapsnomad: you can find some grid addons at http://goeb.aquavitae.org/Addons/readme.html
06:46.58Nomad_WandererThank you so much Bpas!
06:47.00Nomad_Wandererbaps!
06:47.03Bapsthey might need their toc updated, but they should all work to one extent or another.  I know goeb hasn't had a chance to update them yet
06:49.25Nomad_WandererYes.. some of the initial complaints are addressed here.
06:49.57Nomad_WandererMore squares, better fades.. good stuff
06:50.28Bapsnomad: the side indicators is still a bit of a work in progress.  and corner size is part of grid now, so you don't need it
06:51.12Bapsthe main thing that sideindicators doesn't do right now is resize without reloading the UI when you change the corner size
06:51.19Bapsother than that, it's perfect.  =)
06:51.43Nomad_Wandererahh.. one of our droods immediately wanted a mosaic of squares aroudn each grid cell
06:51.57KemayoNooo!  MrPlow BankStack errors now!  ;_;
06:52.30haarmwtb: essential druid addons, (but no healing stuff), got shifter2, any recommendations ?
06:52.42Bapsyeah.. goeb's a shammy.. his wife is a druid (and a priest)
06:52.49Bapsso he's got a lot of the bases covered
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06:54.10pastamancerI'm still not convinced on the second text indicator.  I only added it when I added the frame-size options.
06:54.31haarmI think it's unnecessary pastaman
06:54.33pastamancerI doubt the extra side indicators will ever make it in the official grid
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06:54.56Bapspasta: I'd like to see the option to have one in the center so you can have one centered or two, one above the other.
06:55.02Bapsbut I'm a "lots of options" guy
06:55.12Bapspasta: and that's fine if you don't want to add it.
06:55.12pastamancerBaps: yeah, that's on my list
06:55.14Nomad_WandererYeah.. I missed an innervate tonight, because I was also poisoned.
06:55.20Nomad_WandererThe icon covered my name
06:55.41Nomad_WandererI twould be neat to somehow move the center icon? I dunno.
06:55.47BapsI prefer to have one icon in each location than have to figure out what it's trying to tell me.. other people might be different
06:56.00Bapsnomad: or turn it off
06:56.04Bapswhich you acn do
06:56.04Nomad_WandererBTW, Pastamancers suck, saucerors rule
06:56.14pastamancerdiscooooo bandit
06:56.17Nomad_WandererKOLFTW
06:56.35pastamancerI'll bet you played an accordian thief :p
06:56.54Nomad_WandererActually, I was a standard fighter.. I forget the name
06:57.00pastamancerhttp://grid.13th-floor.org/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_120306_231410.png is why I added the second text indicator (yes, that's grid)
06:57.05Grollaaaargh now my addons are not gettign the darn libs again!!!
06:57.20Grollwhat lib thingy should i get to use standalones?
06:57.51Grollpastamancer nice :D
06:57.53Nomad_WandererIs there any way to get mana numbers?
06:58.04Bapsnomad: you probably want percentages?
06:58.09Nomad_WandererI wnat to ditch the original blizz unit frames
06:58.14Nomad_Wanderereither or
06:58.34Nomad_Wandererpercentages would be ok.. raw numbers better. I use raw numbers for patch werk..
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06:58.37kebinusanwow those grid frames dont look like grid at all
06:58.39Nomad_Wandererwhen to pot and demonic rune
06:58.53Bapsnomad: you could a) do the three thresholds from goeb's page..  or b) just use ag_Unitframes's raid stuff
06:59.08Nomad_WandererAnyways. I want to take a moment and say ZOMG GRID@!!!@
06:59.18Bapsor c) write/find someone to write a module for grid to do it
06:59.21Nomad_WandererYou impressed alot of people new to 2.0 tonight
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06:59.27Nomad_Wandererwith grid.
06:59.50AxiumKTyay for patchwerk hotfix
06:59.58Nomad_WandererYay is right
06:59.59kebinusannomad, grid+clique is the sexeh
07:00.04Nomad_WandererI know.
07:00.05Grolla lot of ppl are scared of starting to use it though, atleast in my guild they say ohh it looks so advanced bla bla but i'm nagging on them :P
07:00.06haarmi've been pimping grid as a raidframes replacement, but people arn't buying it ;x
07:00.16hastehttp://adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
07:00.17Grollhaarm exactly
07:00.17pastamancergrid doesn't need mana numbers
07:00.18Nomad_WandererExcept clad didn't fix the right click thingy yet
07:00.29haarmit has a low mana warning
07:00.30haarmthat's enough
07:00.34Nomad_WandererI won't be able to ditch the original unit frames tho.
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07:00.38Grollbut can someone help me with libs? what standalone should i dl to use them?
07:00.39Nomad_Wandererwithout having mana numbers
07:00.45anenigma_I've been pimping Grid as an all-in-one household appliance.  It just doesn't appeal to some people though.
07:00.47Bapsif you want more, you can do multiple mana warning levels
07:00.53pastamancergrid isn't a replacement for unit frames
07:00.56kebinusandyeah, Ive been pimping grid alot too
07:01.09haarmanenigma, i don't find the vacuum to have enough power
07:01.10gixhm. SetBindingClick("J", "_MS") works, but /click _MS in a macro throws a security-error. why?
07:01.11Nomad_WandererI need 1500 and 2200... Shades of a color are tough...
07:01.13AxiumKTcan you make aguf's raid frames sort by class  once you've filtered it?
07:01.18haarmand the blender just doesn't
07:01.20kebinusanBut Ive had to help people to setup turning off debuffs they cant cure
07:01.21Nomad_Wandereranyways its late. thanks again for grid!
07:01.28Bapsnomad: but you have 4 more indicators now!  =)
07:01.58Nomad_WandererYeah.. but I still can't set it up to tell me when I've used 1500 mana and then again when I've used 2200 mana :)
07:02.07gixother buttons seem to be clickable with /click
07:02.10Bapsnomad: so keep your player up..
07:02.18Bapsor use archud2 or something
07:02.25Nomad_WandererYeah.. Duplication ftl
07:02.35kergothi like using a hud with grid
07:02.36Bapsuse like XRS to give overall raid status.
07:02.56Nomad_WandererI want the uber appliance gird thingy. I think
07:02.59BapsI used Mooghud for a long time.. and then archud.. and I'm missing it
07:03.08Nomad_WandererLiek pastamancer siad.. I want it to be something it's not
07:03.17AxiumKTclad mentioned anything about praid recently?
07:03.22Bapsanyone have a link to an updated archud2?
07:03.28Nomad_WandererYeah. it's not converted yet
07:03.37AxiumKTWell I gathered as much :P
07:03.39Nomad_WandererI hope he fixes right click with clique first imo
07:03.54AxiumKTyeah i'm sure clique's wher eit's at
07:04.01AxiumKTspeaking of, life w/o decursive not that bad
07:04.19haarmhavn't tried it yet
07:04.20kebinusantook us a few attempts to get people decursing on noth tonight
07:04.21Nomad_WandererThere's no way to bind the dropdown (that has trade/whisper/leave party), so if you bind right click, you can't trade/do any of those things
07:04.23kebinusanbut it wasnt that
07:04.31Nargiddleyhows raiding going ax ?
07:04.33haarmwe were gonna go to naxx, then we found out the armor mitigation formula was tits up
07:04.56haarmhad reports of razuvious adds being 2shotted, patchwerk offtanks being 1shotted, blah blah blah
07:05.41anenigma_haarm: 9-10k white hits from patchwerk, onto dreadnaught'ed main tanks, isn't normal?  :P
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07:07.01kebinusanbtw can you no longer remove the ToT windows from the ora mt frames
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07:07.37Bapslot of mods just weren't finished before the patch hit
07:08.12BapsI do expect a lot of updates in the next couple weeks
07:09.15Tricksta_I hope Blizz loses tons of customers for this stupid change in how the game interacts with addons
07:09.42Jagobahthat's a bug
07:09.46Tricksta_Yes Decursive was a crutch, and I did not use it....however for some it was how they raided
07:09.48Jagobahand Pwerk is getting hotfixed
07:10.14Icerothheh, thank god i got my the end of dreams last week :p
07:10.22kergothTricksta_, me too, since players who cant adapt are too worthless for me to want to play with
07:10.26kergothgood riddance
07:10.28hasteTricksta_: then that "some" is retarded, and I hope they die in a fire
07:10.36kergothhaste, :)
07:10.43hastesounds like we agree :)
07:10.52hasteone less stupid user = progress towards sanity!
07:11.25Fiskerhaha
07:11.40Fiskerpatch had to go live before they wanted to fix raidbosses
07:11.44Fiskertypically blizzard
07:11.51Fiskerthey've known this bug for months now
07:13.11vid`honestly it was fine tonight
07:13.13vid`i used clique and detox
07:13.16vid`and had 0 probs
07:13.31Icerothwhat do you gain from detox?
07:13.37vid`just a live list
07:13.39vid`thats all
07:13.51Iceroth*boggle*
07:13.52vid`dont really need it if you set up your unit frames right
07:13.58vid`but i didnt have time yet
07:14.13Icerothgrid is damn fine for that :)
07:14.19vid`i never saw grid
07:14.21BapsI'm planning to still use detox -- mainly as a big indicator/noise that means "decurse someone you idiot"
07:14.24vid`i heard its really intricate
07:14.26vid`so i havent touched it
07:14.27vid`lol
07:14.29AxiumKTyeah we had one "oh i guess we're gonna have to pay attention" w ipe on noth and that was about it
07:14.32vid`barely have time to raid @ night
07:14.37vid`let alone mess with mods for 2 hours
07:14.47kebinusanIm a bit disappointed that they put shaman loot in the game
07:14.49vid`i dont even know where to get grid
07:14.52kebinusanfor alliance players that is
07:14.57kebinusangg totem from noth
07:15.01vid`oh n/m
07:15.02Bapswww.wowace.com/files/grid
07:15.03vid`its on svn
07:15.04vid`hehe
07:15.05vid`yea
07:15.10Icerothofc it is ;)
07:15.11xlviiwtb buffalo 2.0 compatibility
07:15.18Icerothpretty much all the best mods are ;)
07:15.25vid`i miss perfectraid
07:15.42AxiumKTyeah
07:15.51vid`and also i need a mage mod so bad
07:15.52kebinusanWhy'd clad unace all his stuff anyway
07:15.58AxiumKTaguf will do for now but the nonclasssorting sucks sometimes
07:16.11vid`any range recolor mod yet?
07:16.13Bapsvid: what do you need from a mage mod?
07:16.15vid`rangerecolor is broke still
07:16.16Icerothi can't raid as a healer without class sorting :s
07:16.27vid`Baps: a mod to save me hotkeys :)
07:16.35vid`something has all the ports/etc
07:16.40vid`reagent counters
07:16.50BapsI used to use an ancient mod called totembar for my stones/ports/food/water
07:17.03vid`yea well i used one for titan
07:17.07vid`but now im using fubar
07:17.13xlviivid`, fubar_conjurefu -> i think it had compatibility.
07:17.14BapsI could theoretically use it still.. since it's all out of combat stuff
07:17.17xlviihas*
07:17.25xlviior try fubar_reagentsfu
07:17.34ckknightvid`, Bartender2 colors by range.
07:17.38ckknightBartender3*
07:17.39Bapsbut I want an updated mod.   TotemGarden has potential.. but it's not done
07:17.44vid`ah
07:17.47vid`i disabled bartender 3 before
07:17.49BapsI use bongos and omnicc for my range stuff
07:17.50vid`cause i was trying tor aid
07:18.03vid`and all the blizzard hotkeys were overlapping the bartender ones
07:18.08vid`so i didnt want to mess with it
07:18.09Icerothi kinda hate how the mods want to handle hotkeys themselves now... i liked how they were all in one place but now bongos and itemrack at least have their own binding interface
07:18.11vid`and then onebag broke
07:18.20vid`so i couldnt get into the menu to disable blizzard action bars lol
07:18.25vid`cause esc would throw onebag errors
07:18.28ckknightOneBag works for me
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07:18.35vid`yea i think it was patched again
07:18.38ckknightgranted, I may have fixed it.
07:18.39vid`it was broken like 3 hours ago
07:18.40vid`:)
07:18.43vid`ahh
07:18.44ckknightyea, my bad.
07:18.44Icerothonebag works, onebank was somewhat scetchy last night
07:18.45vid`lol
07:18.58vid`you wrote it? cool
07:19.12ckknightno, I didn't
07:19.13vid`oh
07:19.21ckknightI just tinker with random mods
07:19.25vid`im not a huge fan of vbagnon
07:19.30vid`i liked bagnon pre 2.0
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07:19.37BapsI turned off the v part of vbagnon
07:19.40JagobahWhat don't you like about v?
07:19.49JagobahIt's essentially the same mod
07:19.52Bapsvid: delete all the categories and add just "all" and it's just like it was before
07:19.52vid`just not my cup of tea
07:19.52xlviiany mods that work with 2.0 that allow you to move the buff / debuff icons?
07:19.56vid`i dont like the categories
07:20.03JagobahNEither do I
07:20.07Bapsit'll even delete the category tabs
07:20.07JagobahSoI got rid of them
07:20.15ckknightxlvii, ElkBuffBar ;-)
07:20.37Icerothyeah those were so damn weird first :p
07:20.38vid`last conjurefu update was nov13
07:20.40xlviickknight, i have to admit, i don't like the look of that..
07:20.41ElkanoOhayô gozaimasu. Tadaima!
07:20.50xlviii just want one that allows me to move the icons.
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07:22.47FelixTeCatHey ckknight I got a issue maybe you have a idea about
07:22.58ckknightspit it out
07:23.02FelixTeCat:P
07:23.11Fiskeryou shouldn't have said that
07:23.17FelixTeCatFubar doesnt show up on my GF mac
07:23.24FelixTeCatAt all but no errors
07:23.28xlviidoes anyone remember sairans website url for all her addons?
07:23.29ckknightthen I can't help you
07:23.32kergothvid`, so dont use the categories then
07:23.33xlviisairen, or something.
07:23.33ckknightlikely you didn't install it properly.
07:23.33Fiskeryour gf is a mac? :O(j/k)
07:23.54Grollxlvii website is kinda down at the moment
07:23.55xlviigroll, notice i said sairen's / sairan's
07:24.03Fiskeryou could check if the /fubar command works
07:24.15Grollxlvii yes and it's down
07:24.32Grollhttp://sairen.wind-force.net/interface/,
07:24.33FelixTeCatits in the proper directory and showing up on the addon screen and not giving any errors, but no / commands are working
07:24.36xlviigroll, okay then.. do you remember what he / she used to move buffs.
07:24.49Grollnope not a clue :P
07:24.52ckknightFelixTeCat, check framexml.log
07:24.52FelixTeCatAnd its not showing up on the screen
07:24.58FelixTeCatkk
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07:25.12gixi tried to create the button like this now: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ps31aw38.html - if i use SetBindingClick and can use a key just fine to run it, but when i want to click it in a macro with /click _MS it fails. any ideas? i'm confused why a security error pops up there.
07:28.52pastamancerboo, cia is missing
07:29.30pastamancerr19499 Grid: added option to disable "Center Text 2" indicator (defaults to disabled for that classic Grid look).
07:30.38Bapspasta: nice.
07:30.44Bapsthat should make everyone happy
07:31.10pastamancerI also cleaned up the code for the advanced options, so I'm happy too :)
07:33.10FelixTeCatckknight got the file, says ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.toc, Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\FuBar\
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07:33.52FelixTeCatI been trying for 6 hours almost
07:34.56FiskerDo you know if any kind of permissions is blocking the program from accessing it?
07:35.08waffle^_yeah, sounds like file system permissions
07:35.25FelixTeCatThat I couldnt tell you I am not a mac person its my GF computer I use windows :P
07:35.52Jagobahwhat's a good alternative to NeedyList?
07:37.13GildedOk, so I get how to update an aura and a frame to indicate a buff is on a toon... how do I do the reverse (Grid)?
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07:37.44FiskerFelixTeCat then i suggest your best guess is the mac forums
07:38.01FelixTeCatRoger that
07:38.53FelixTeCatThanks for all the help ckknight I love fubar dont know how I can live without it, keep up the amazing work. And thanks for all your help.
07:38.56Fiskerckknight are you guys committing without externals?
07:39.07ckknightno, Fisker
07:39.20hasteFisker: it's the zip script that didn't handle the pressure of yesterday
07:39.23Fiskerso just the server coughing up blood from the load?
07:39.28Fiskeryeah
07:39.28Grollhmm any idea why aceupdater totally refuses to install onebag for me? :P
07:39.32hasteoCB was zipped once with only half it files :D
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07:40.38andremarthe zip-generating script should probably fail to generate a zip unless it can include the externals
07:41.04hasteblame the SVN mirrors
07:41.33Grollstupid wowaceupdater!!! it totally refuse to install onebag :P
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07:47.41Azurewrathmhm.. anyone know if in the new macro system theres something like [isequipped]? [equipped:Trinket] does not what i want, to activate a Trinket only when it is equipped..
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07:49.03andremarhms, how can I get BT3 to show keybindings on buttons?
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07:49.18Fiskermine did as default :O
07:49.18nymbiaAzurewrath: /use TrinketName
07:49.57andremarFisker: have you set the keybindings trough BT3 config?
07:50.25Azurewrathnymbia: i currently use "/use [equipped:Trinket] TrinketName".. but if that trinket isn't equipped it gives me an error that i need to equip it first. I want to skip the whole /use if the trinket isn't equipped.
07:50.29Fiskeryeah
07:51.02nymbiaAzurewrath: unfortunately, i think you're stuck with the spam :(
07:51.17Azurewratha pity
07:52.11xlviican someone send me cyart?
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07:55.07AKXIs chatedit_sendtext protected too? ._.
07:55.34AKXOr ChatEdit_ParseText to be exact
07:57.00WobinTinyTiup is still not compatible is it? =(
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07:57.27gixworks for me
07:57.58anenigma_TinyTip works for me, the fubar part doesn't load atm for some reason
07:58.28WobinI'm getting TTExtras errors
07:58.40kergothdisable the raid icon display
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08:02.51Wobinkk I'll do that =)
08:03.08Nargiddley[Ammo], you there ?
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08:05.50evlWOW
08:05.51Azurewrathckknight: [2006/12/07 09:05:03-618-x1]: AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:244: C stack overflow .. i'll pastey the whole stack..
08:05.53evlI DO LOVE THE BALANCE
08:06.03evlcasters overpowered now, yes/no/punani?
08:06.05NivFreakhrmm
08:06.09NivFreakI had to disable OneBag
08:06.12NivFreakso sad
08:06.13kebinusanpunani for sure
08:06.15ckknightNivFreak, ?
08:06.22evlmages with sprint and scattershot.
08:06.23MoonWolfI would go for pineaplle myself evl
08:06.36evlf'ing bullshit patch for melee :(
08:06.39kebinusanevl, warrior?
08:06.48evlis also melee
08:06.51NivFreakckknight: when I click on something in my spellbook, WoW asks me to ignore or disable it
08:06.53evland has gotten nothing at all
08:06.57NivFreakand the action doesn't fire
08:07.00NivFreaksame with titan panel
08:07.01NivFreakhehe
08:07.19kebinusanwhat class are you
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08:07.27evlrogue
08:07.27AKXWhat's the Ace spell alert mod?
08:07.33evlrogue with 45 dots on him
08:07.34Azurewrathckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/3164
08:07.43kebinusancloak of shadows?
08:07.49NivFreakrogues have a hard time killing me now
08:07.51NivFreaksecond wind++
08:07.52evl41 point in sub = no damage at all?
08:08.07kebinusanwait till the beta then
08:08.12evlyou can bore people to death with cloak of shadows
08:08.14kebinusantrainable and shadowstep
08:08.16evland that's pretty much it
08:08.36Grollargh soon i'll blow somethign up!!! now i'm using standalone libs but now almost nothing works ANYWAY!!! *pulls hair*
08:08.44evlGroll: got Prat installed?
08:08.49evlI had somer problems with prat and standalone
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08:09.01ckknightAzurewrath, update Cartographer, it's already fixed (I think)
08:09.29lnicedoes mobhealth3 still use !!!libs
08:09.31Azurewrathckknight: have the most recent version
08:09.36Tekkubbest lyrics evar!
08:09.37Grollevl yep
08:09.45Tekkubo/~ Thank you for the tongue o/~
08:10.00ckknightAzurewrath, hrm
08:10.06Elkanoanyone having an idea why the googlegroup isn't updating anymore?
08:10.15Fiskerhalp my addons are not working!
08:10.25Azurewrathckknight: it appears every time i leave a Battleground, if that helps
08:10.39TekkubCIA updating and not the group?
08:11.03nymbiaTekkub: for a few days now
08:11.39vid`wow
08:11.41vid`no errors at all now
08:11.42vid`:D
08:11.48vid`got almost everythin working
08:11.53vid`bartender3 rocks
08:12.00vid`gnite
08:12.18lniceanyone using mobhealth?
08:12.22Grollbaah ok it's the libs that is screwing me over now instead
08:12.33TekkubCIA's not even loading
08:12.42nymbiaTekkub: not tonight, no
08:12.43WobinIt's true =(
08:12.43Fiskerjust checkout all libs :P
08:12.48ckknightAzurewrath, that's not the whole error...
08:12.54Tekkubno clue then
08:12.55ckknightAzurewrath, only part of it
08:13.00GrollFisker i'm using standalone libs now and it aint working anyway
08:13.00ckknightAzurewrath, have the whole thing?
08:13.08evlDisturbing, ag_UF doesn't have combopoint as text displayu
08:13.14Azurewrathckknight: that's all BugSack displays :/
08:13.33BarbanusHomeHeh, anyone know why I get a "C stack overflow" every time I leave a BG?
08:13.42wallenI used to get that
08:13.49BarbanusHomeWhat did you do to fix it?
08:14.16wallenI don't remember, changed so many stuff I can point you out :/
08:14.26Grollbah and wowace died again :(
08:14.37wallenDoes anyone understand what mod can possibly trigger so many events of that kind ? http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1489/wowscrnshot120706053207fx8.jpg
08:14.48PProvostSomeone told me the BGs are broken today for lots of people.
08:14.52Tekkubheh, clad typo'd on the commit email line of the post-commit hook and it's not been generating a log at all
08:15.32PProvostHey Tekkub, I've been away. Will Squishy get updated for 2.0?
08:15.33MoonWolfhmm, where would one be able to contact the author or chronometer ?
08:15.44evlMoonWolf: check forums, make a post
08:15.49Tekkubsquishy isn't mine
08:15.52MoonWolfso crude.
08:15.54PProvostOh. sorry.
08:15.58Tekkubsomeone commit so I get a log for the emails
08:16.17Fiskerprat does have inbuilt color and tab completion right?
08:16.27Tekkubevl, forums?
08:16.31zoomjrDisablepopup not working in autobar ?
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08:17.28Fiskercartographer is brilliant :o
08:17.35Sroshmornin'
08:17.41Sroshindeed
08:19.12Elkanock, what's better? self.hooks[object].OnShow(object) vs self.hooks[object]:OnShow()
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08:20.25wereHamsterElkano, :func() is only 'syntactic suggar'
08:20.31haarmthe 2nd one, because it saves a few bytes of wowace bandwidth! :)
08:20.43ckknightElkano, you can't use :
08:20.56ckknightself.hooks[object]:OnShow() => self.hooks[object].OnShow(self.hooks[object])
08:20.58ckknightwhich you don't want.
08:21.14Tekkubhum, no email log
08:21.17Tekkubdon't ask me
08:21.18wereHamsterargh.. -.-
08:21.32Elkanoah, k :)
08:22.28evlany alternative unitframes to ag_UF?
08:22.30evloUF updated yet?
08:22.42evlI sort of need to see how many combopoints I have as a rogue :P
08:23.35Tenraievl, kinda makes you wish Statusbars was still compatible.
08:23.37Sroshcount for yourself :p
08:23.51Elkanoevl, pcuf?
08:24.01Tekkubget bUF
08:24.12Sroshany guesstimate on when the forums will be back up?
08:24.13TenraiI've been having problems with Chronometer actually, the bar keeps fading on certain skills.
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08:24.23MoonWolfgetting anything if you do not have access to dev is hard right now.
08:24.32TenraiHas anyone else had problems with Chronometer?
08:24.46Cartashttp://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lmsec7.jpg
08:24.49Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/files/
08:24.52CartasWhat's the addon below KTM here, does anyone know?
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08:25.41Fiskerhttp://ace.pastey.net/3165
08:25.46Fiskerthat was the error i got when leaving bgs
08:25.50Fiskerfull bugsack report
08:25.50Fisker:o
08:25.51TenraiCartas, I have that one. Just can't remember the name.
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08:26.37Cartas:O
08:26.43CartasCould you check please, Tenrai? :)
08:26.46kergothCartas, looks like that one cooldown timer bars addon.. cant recall the name, something simple
08:27.08kergoths/bars//
08:27.42MoonWolfi could find the name, if people could stup kicking curse in the balls.
08:27.44Fiskerdefinately an ace addon
08:28.00Fiskerperhaps coolDown :P
08:28.01TenraiIt's used in the Remod compilation
08:29.58waffle^_anyone wanna give a shot at updating capping? i really miss my bg timers :|
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08:31.04pastamancerI have a couple-of-hour-old mirror of files
08:31.09kergothFisker, thats the one
08:31.16Fiskeri am the winner!
08:31.23kergothi said it was simple :) thats even simpler than i figured
08:31.24kergothhehe
08:31.29Fiskergreat success!
08:32.39WobinAnyone Grid people here?
08:32.40lniceanyone having a tweaked map in Bloodmyst Isle(cartographer)
08:32.48AKXDoh, where can I get AceHook-2.1 ?
08:32.54Fiskeryeah
08:32.59Fiskerbut didn't you read the patch notes?
08:33.02WobinA friend is having her grid pop back to it's original position every time she drags it
08:33.10Fisker"Various graphical flaws can now be seen in the map"
08:33.17Fiskermost hilarious patchnote ever
08:33.38lniceok thanks, awesome mod btw
08:33.51|Pixel|Fisker: most hilarious patch day ever as well
08:33.51Fiskerit was a joke :P
08:33.55Fiskerindeed
08:33.58pastamancerWobin: just us chickens
08:34.11WobinAny ideas Pasta?
08:34.18Fiskerlooks like the explored part is a bit off
08:34.40pastamancermoveanything/visor?
08:34.57pastamancersome other set of raid frames?
08:35.04CartasHm
08:35.11CartasMy agUF doesn't show buffs at all :o
08:35.40Wobinhm, I'm going to grab the addon pack she got to see what could be conflicting
08:36.05lniceis there a WIM type mod for ace?
08:36.33odtwtb tracking icon on fubar
08:36.51odtso someone please fix FuBar_TrackerFu :)
08:37.28Grollwho is it that codes wowaceupdater?
08:38.55MoonWolfPProvost does that.
08:39.10Grollokies
08:39.25Grollgot a slight problem with it :P
08:39.47evlyou're probably not aloen
08:40.02lniceI just wish it sorted the list(biggest complaint)
08:40.10MoonWolfill agree with evl when i find out what aloen is :P
08:40.15Grollheh prolly not, but it seems i have to mark just a few of my addons i have and update those and then mark a few more :P
08:40.28evlMoonWolf: lol, spelling funny!
08:40.38Grolllnice it does sort it u just need to know how :P
08:40.54Grollview show groups untick that and then select it again
08:41.24lniceahhh!!! thanks :)
08:41.55FiskerGroll it usually stops updating if the file has been removed
08:42.01Fiskeror addon
08:42.10Fiskersome addons have been removed but are still in the list
08:42.20Grollargh oke
08:42.22Fiskerit just goes to "Update Complete" when that happens
08:42.59Grollok
08:43.14Grollbut doesnt it like refresh that list itself each time
08:43.54Fiskerdoesn't seem like it
08:43.57Fiskerdunno how that list works
08:44.32lniceI just wanted to be able to see the list so I can look for the stuff I want to install
08:45.04Wobinfeh, have they changed the macro system?
08:45.11Wobin(like overnight?)
08:45.11Grolldoh :P
08:45.23Grollerm no those changes was announced weeks ago
08:45.39WobinI had macros that were working last night =(
08:45.42WobinThat no longer do so
08:45.46Wobinexcept for the castsequence one
08:46.16Grollheh wierd
08:46.16WobinThe one that used all the modifiers and a list of casts doesn't seem to do anything
08:46.31Grollah some modifier stuff is broken i thnk
08:46.54Wobinbah =(
08:47.11Grollcheck the blue cardplace thingy forum
08:49.59Fiskerhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/53926052.htm <-see
08:50.07FiskerThe hunter raises a valid point
08:50.19Fisker"I am a hunter Blizz not a warrior"
08:50.30FiskerEven the hunters thinks that warriors should be better dps than rogues
08:50.31Fisker:(
08:50.57Grollwarrs shouldnt have better dps than rouges
08:51.13Fiskeror rogues
08:51.18Grollit should be mages, warlocks,rogues, warrs..kinda
08:51.19Fiskerand rogues should have better dps than mages
08:51.22Fiskernooo
08:51.28Grollyaya :P rogues or rouges :P
08:51.30Fiskerrogues->mages->whatever i don't care
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08:52.08Grollrogues are not supposed to be glascannons.. mages are so mages first then rogue
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08:53.22Grollbut now i need a bit more sleep
08:53.24Grollso ta ta
08:53.30nuOHEPummm... rogues are glasscannons. even more then mages in pve
08:53.36Fiskeryeah
08:53.39Fiskeralthough
08:53.41MoonWolf~hug CIA-17
08:53.47purlACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs CIA-17
08:53.47Fiskermore like glass-peashooters
08:53.50Fiskerour damage doesn't qualify as a cannon
08:54.02nuOHEPtrue
08:54.27TenraiYes, let's make the rogues it's only utility.. Average!
08:55.07MoonWolfthere is enough drama around code as it is, lets keep class balance out of the channel for now.
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08:55.41FiskerLOOK I'M OPENING LOCKBOXES IN ORGRIMMAR
08:55.44Fiskeroh
08:55.46Fisker/cry
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08:56.21nymbiagmatch is underpowered, but i guess they needed to nerf gfind.  too bad they dont have a change against druids.
08:56.23nymbiawait.
08:56.33Fiskerthen codewise blizzard replaced some *'s with some /'s in our damage :P
08:57.12Fiskerwhy is my average increasing rate negative?
08:57.23nymbiagc'ing!
08:57.28nymbiai guess...
08:57.30MoonWolfyou have a memmory black hole in your pc!
08:57.35Elkanoblack hole in your PC
08:57.35Fiskeryeeeeees
08:57.47Elkano~poke MoonWolf
08:57.51purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind MoonWolf, pokes MoonWolf repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
08:57.56nymbiasome mod loaded up a billion tables on load and is slowly nil'ing them!
08:59.02abbatmorning guys
08:59.21abbatCan someone give me link to visor2 readme or help page with examples
09:02.03evlAnyone got the new PhotekUI 6.0 handy?
09:02.06xlvii<PROTECTED>
09:02.12evla friend is trying to get it but all the addon sites are down :P
09:02.51evlheh
09:02.59odtis there an addon that allows you to move the location of the bg scoreframe?
09:03.00evlthe new curse v3 deployment is a disaster
09:03.44lniceworst time to do it as well.
09:04.52nymbiaodt: not off the top of my head but you can just move AlwaysUpFrame1 with a generic stuff-mover mod
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09:05.48kebinusannevcairiel, ping
09:05.56Gamefaqmhh is in bt3 the switch between range and meele bar gone? in bt2 it was a plugins bt2_hunterbars
09:06.05kebinusancant do it anymore game
09:06.09odtnymbia: any of them working in 2.0?
09:06.12kebinusanapi changes preven tit
09:06.17kebinusan*prevent it
09:06.17Gamefaq:(
09:06.27Gamefaqthat was just perfect this switch
09:06.40nymbiaodt: no idea.
09:06.49MoonWolfkebinusan, you did that on purpose!
09:07.19xlviias far as i'm concerned, all this patch has done is raped addons..
09:07.34evland hunters :D
09:07.41PsykovskyHello, I have two questions... 1. Why in FuBar I can't get any bars, all Fu_add minibuttons shows around minimap, is there any slash command or something?    2. Does anyone suffer from the bongos error, when you enter stance, the key bindings stays on first action bars, while they should remap to stance ones? ...
09:07.45PsykovskyThanks in advance...
09:08.34Psykovskyoh, and yes I updated everything...
09:08.37kebinusanPsykovsky, my guess would be fubar is fubared or more correctly your download of it is, the fu addons will show around the minimap if fubar isnt running.
09:08.39nymbiaFuBar itself probably isnt loading
09:08.54Psykovskystrange...
09:09.04PsykovskyI'll see what could be wrong :/
09:09.05TenraiI believe the stance bar in Bongos is supposed to keep it's own binding-keys.
09:09.06kebinusanif you do the whole wowace.com/files thing you probably wont get a good zip with all the libs needed
09:09.35MoonWolfexternals are not reliably included in zips right now.
09:09.41PProvostYes, the update script for zips is not happy right now.
09:10.01nymbiakebinusan: i got one version with externals in the zip and it had a damn typo :(
09:10.02PProvostWhat I've been doing is pulling w/ WAU and then using svn export to catch it up.
09:10.08PProvostugh
09:10.13kebinusan:-(
09:10.26PsykovskyTenrai when I enter my Stealth (I'm rogue) first action bar changes with sixth one, the bindings of first bar should go to the sixth one...
09:10.32nymbiaPProvost: i'm just running standalone libs with no-ext WAUs for now
09:10.42PProvostI had issues with that too...
09:10.45Psykovskyin original Blizz action bars it does that, and in bongos before the patch it also did this
09:10.46Psykovsky:)
09:10.52PProvostBut I've heard that works for most people.
09:11.04kebinusanhmm, bt3 isnt showing the correct keybindings on the buttons for me
09:11.08TenraiHmm, I wasn't using Bongos before the patch.. Right now I just know thatit doesnt switch em.
09:12.46lnicemy bongos works fine (for warrior) not sure it's different for a rogue.
09:12.55PsykovskyOK, let's presume you are warrior with few stances, you fighting on your DPS stance and all bindings 1 to = keys are set to action panel 1, when you enter defencive stanse you must go to click&pray ?
09:13.14evlUhm
09:13.20MoonWolfuhm, no.
09:13.22evlAnyone else unable to duel people with ag_unitFrames? :)
09:13.28MoonWolfit behaves like default wow swapping for me.
09:13.38Psykovskyit swaps ok
09:13.45Psykovskythe bindings to action bars dont
09:13.45Psykovsky:/
09:13.50nymbiaevl: some guy in my guild couldnt but it works fine for me.
09:13.51odtevl: yes, someone said to use /duel
09:13.51Fiskeranyone know why oskin isn't even showing up on the addons screen?
09:14.07MoonWolfbecause oskin is outdated
09:14.16MoonWolfthe mod is called  skinner now.
09:14.33kebinusanevl, yes because for some reason /duel is protected ... apparently its a bliz issue, just target them and /duel for now
09:16.55ElkanoPsykovsky, you've got to set the button bindings via bongos config ui
09:17.19Psykovskyit changes bindings dynamicaly?
09:17.25Psykovskyor you set it for different stances?
09:19.00Azurewrathmhm.. anyone has a working mod to change the buff timers to 00:00? Hate the Blizz default layout..
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09:19.29PsykovskyI us CT_Buffmod I think
09:19.43Psykovskyit shows buff durations and buffs/debuffs in separate frame
09:19.44Psykovsky:)
09:20.19PsykovskyDamn it's hard to be dependant on mods, but default blizz UI just... sucks...
09:22.43ElkanoPsykovsky, yes, it will change tham as it changes bars :)
09:23.06Elkanoand try my BuffBars for Buffs :)
09:23.16PsykovskyI'll try that (with bars)
09:23.24Psykovsky(action)
09:23.25Psykovsky:)
09:24.51Psykovskyis Lua used in some other envinoirment?
09:25.05PsykovskyI mean I am programmer, would it be usefull to learn Lua?
09:25.06Psykovsky:)
09:25.19MoonWolfits used in a lot of things as an embedded scripting language
09:25.23MoonWolfgo figure :P
09:25.39ElkanoPsykovsky: EBB -> http://ui.worldofwar.net/lowbandwidth/ui.php?id=2787
09:25.46TenraiMoonWolf and I are working on a website / CMS in LUA even.
09:26.08PsykovskyTenrai web servers supports lua?
09:26.09Psykovsky:)
09:26.10Tenrai(He's sitting next to me in real life, if anyone wants him to.. feel physical pain. PM me.)
09:26.47TenraiKepler is a webserver that supports it.
09:27.12Psykovskynot so popular eh?
09:27.13Psykovsky:)
09:27.57MoonWolfoh the pain in my left shoulder, its killing me.
09:28.04TenraiIm on your right side, not the left.
09:28.11MoonWolfDon't you think I know that ?
09:28.16TenraiApparently not.
09:28.21MoonWolfnaab
09:28.50Psykovskyin my work I use TCL for scripting
09:28.50Psykovsky:)
09:29.06Psykovskynever thought of Lua
09:29.55ckknightit's a nice language
09:29.57sylvanaarsounds polynesian
09:30.12Psykovsky:)
09:30.17CartasHas any addon been released which removes the map icon from the minimap? And why is it even there anyway? :(
09:30.26PProvostSqueenix does
09:30.26MoonWolftry portugese
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09:30.44ElkanoTenrai, physical pain for MoonWolf? hmmm... :evilgrin: give him a hug from me :)
09:30.46sylvanaarits there cause there was no room for it on the menu bar
09:30.59MoonWolfcartas, they had to move the map icon to make room for the lfg button.
09:31.08OvrLrd-Qon autobars, the toc calls libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua
09:31.11TenraiElkano, I'd.. rather not. :(
09:31.11CartasWhy do they even need a map button anywhere? :(
09:31.18PsykovskyElkano now you cause physical pain to MoonWolf
09:31.19PsykovskyxD
09:31.20PProvostRegardless, squeenix has a command for getting rid of it.
09:31.21OvrLrd-Qerr bad example
09:31.24MoonWolfbecause some people can't find the m key.
09:31.41Psykovskyis this key even on the keyboard?
09:31.43MoonWolfI could crush Tenrai If he tried to hug me.
09:31.46Psykovsky*scraches his head*
09:31.57TenraiAh, yes.. I always typ /\/\ instead of the actual character.. As I cannot find it.
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09:32.19OvrLrd-Qlibs\AceLocale\AceLocale-2.2.lua except the folder structure in the zip is libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua, so there's some brokenness when you try to load it.
09:32.21PsykovskyThe big /\/\ Key
09:32.21PsykovskyxD
09:32.23Cartaslol
09:32.28sylvanaari use gestures
09:32.35odtanyone know if it will eventually possible to style the petbar with cycircled aswell?
09:32.49MoonWolfNO NEVER, sure ask him about it.
09:32.53odtthe builtin bartender3 styles seem to affect it
09:33.11sylvanaarit gets tainted alot
09:33.47nymbiamy girlfriend was having it taint on her hunter with no mods loaded whatsoever.
09:34.09nymbiai think it's better in some of the newer (beta) builds
09:34.14sylvanaarthats good to know
09:34.35PsykovskyThis package contains NO CODE, only empty folders.  Copy these folders into your WoW addon path, open WinAceUpdater and choose mark installed addons.
09:34.41Psykovskywhere I can get this?
09:34.42Psykovsky:)
09:34.47sylvanaarits going to suck for Razuvious
09:34.57sylvanaarMC then no pet buttons
09:34.58MoonWolf~seen cide
09:35.11purlcide <n=Cide@81-226-233-5-no60.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 9h 48m 17s ago, saying: 'removed for ages'.
09:36.25Psykovsky... WinAceUpdater ... where do I get one?
09:36.32Psykovsky:)
09:36.39MoonWolfsourceforge
09:36.56Psykovskycould you be a little more specific... URL would be great...
09:36.59OvrLrd-Qso when i start up it tells me cannot find library instance of AceLocale-2.2
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09:38.22PProvostPsykovsky, http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater
09:38.32Psykovskythank you
09:38.42PProvostyep
09:38.55OvrLrd-Qso should I edit the toc and add the 2.2? or renamed the folders so they dont include the -2.2?
09:40.46nevcairielkebinusan, pong
09:41.19kebinusannevcairiel, just wanted to ask you about bt3, I set the keybindings for the buttons and the bindings work, but the text on the buttons does not reflect the keybinding I set
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09:41.26OvrLrd-Qor who do I need to yell at so it's fixed in the release?
09:42.21kebinusanOvrLrd-Q, most likely an external was omitted in a zip of one of your addons
09:42.28OvrLrd-Qno it's not omitted
09:42.36nevcairielkebinusan: how did you set the bindings? using the dewdrop ?
09:42.44kebinusanyea the fubar thing
09:42.46OvrLrd-Qthe paths in the toc and the paths in the zip do not match up
09:43.26kebinusanOvrLrd-Q, ah, what addon?
09:43.43OvrLrd-QAutoBar
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09:45.10OvrLrd-Qin the toc it's listed as libs\AceLocale\AceLocale-2.2.lua, but the actual folder structure is libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua
09:45.54Psykovskyby the way, for those who use copy paste alot, only yesterday (don't laugh please) I found out the if you press Shift while pressing on "No" in windows dialog when it asks for overwrite (multi files) or delete, it counts as "No to All"
09:46.11Codayus...
09:46.17CodayusYou're kidding...
09:46.24CodayusHmm, good to know.  :-/
09:46.31Codayus(Can't believe *I* didn't know that...)
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09:46.47LaricworkI always wondered why there is a yes to all but no no to all
09:46.54Psykovskyyeah, I sat at work copying new files over new ones, and saving old data by pressing No
09:47.10kergothwow thats really good to know
09:47.13Psykovskymy colegue laughted half way of moving files, and then showed me this
09:47.14Psykovsky:)
09:47.17kebinusanheh wow
09:47.30Psykovsky*over old ones*
09:47.42kebinusanOvrLrd-Q, change the toc, and harass toadkiller I think
09:48.26abbatoh
09:48.31abbatvisor is damn'd nice
09:48.40abbatmuch better then DFM
09:48.50abbatbut command line...
09:48.57OvrLrd-Qand where might I find this killer of toads to harass :)
09:49.19Celtcan you display buffs/debuffs on party members with aguf?
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09:50.51evlCelt: right click and aura thingy
09:51.14Celti did, its showing no buffs/debuffs(tried aura in all 4 positions as well as 1/2 lines)
09:51.27Celtshows them on target though
09:51.57evlhmms, no clue then
09:52.05evla lot of options are shown that aren't implemented in agUF
09:52.08evllike combo points :)
09:52.57abbatHmm...
09:52.59waffle^_Celt:  turn off 'filter auras'
09:53.16nevcairieldid Kaelten activate php again or did his static webserver crash into 500s too ? :D
09:53.22Celtwewt
09:53.25Celtty waffle :)
09:53.30nymbianevcairiel: reactivated
09:53.34Worfcould one point me to some good makro guide? I'm just trying to rebuild some of my old UI's functionality but i have my problems... for example there doesn't seem to be something like /cast petattack, and /pettatack doesn't seem to work as intendend...
09:54.21aE|neXterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44757854&sid=1
09:54.24waffle^_is WAU slow right now?
09:54.29waffle^_or speedy
09:54.32aE|neXtersemi-official macro guide for 2.0
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09:55.49Celtwhat about: it's hiding mana bar on party member but still shows amount :o
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09:56.10waffle^_huh?
09:56.14waffle^_still shows amount?
09:57.08Celtim using compact layout so its health on one line mana below it, the health bars shows but mana bar/rage bar is blank
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09:58.18dafirehi all
09:59.19Celthello
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10:01.01waffle^_celt: is 'hide mana bar' checked, maybe that's it?
10:01.51Celtnope, if i hide manabar it hides the text as well as the bar
10:02.52waffle^_hrmm
10:02.52waffle^_weird
10:02.54WorfaE|neXter, thanks. am at page 14 now... quite some discussion... but after the first page the information value degrades rapidely :°)
10:02.57waffle^_i changed to compact style
10:03.06waffle^_then turned off 'show mana bar', and turned it back on
10:03.10waffle^_now i have the same problem as you
10:03.37Celtfun :)
10:03.50aE|neXterWorf: only the fgirst page is of interest
10:03.59aE|neXterWorf: the first 5-7 posts...
10:04.00waffle^_<PROTECTED>
10:04.10PsykovskyWinAceUpdater.exe doesn't seem to work at the moment...
10:04.33Psykovskyis there any zip or any location availible to download !!!StandaloneLibraries
10:04.40Celtwaffle: know if theres a way for me to seperate party frames individually so buffs listed below each partymember doesnt overlap on the party player frame underneath?
10:04.59PsykovskyCelt increase party frames spacing
10:05.14WorfaE|neXter, well, i hoped to find a example about pet attack... pet attack is no spell it seems, and "/petattack [target=unitid]" doesn't seem to work...
10:05.20waffle^_yeah, under "unit groups"
10:05.33waffle^_<PROTECTED>
10:06.37Psykovskyerm, folks, could you please someone pack a "!!!StandaloneLibraries" folder (with full folders inside) to a ZIP and send them somehow to me, or host it somwhere?
10:06.55Psykovskywould be gratefull..
10:06.58Psykovsky:)
10:07.09Sroshthat's no folder, read the readme
10:07.23SroshPsykovsky, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/!!!StandaloneLibraries/README%20DAMNIT.txt
10:07.38PsykovskyI've read it
10:07.42Psykovskyread what I wrote before
10:08.08Sroshyou on a mac?
10:08.34waffle^_player, target, ToT, ToToT, focus.  that's a lotta frames :o
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10:08.52abbatguys
10:08.54PsykovskySrosh sorry...
10:09.03abbatwhich mod can show frame name on mouseover?
10:09.04phyberPsykovsky: in the time you've been asking, you could probably have just created those directories manually.
10:09.27PsykovskyMy lack in english got me...
10:09.35Psykovsky:)
10:09.46Elkanolol? I've got an email of someone asking me, the author of FuBar, if there is a version for 2.0... Oo
10:10.02Sroshlol
10:10.04phyberElkano: haha
10:10.36kodewulfElkano: nice to see you're helping out ckk... you handling support now...?? lol
10:10.41kebinusanThats a good idea, everyone update their mods to have Elkano as the author
10:10.41KoffiemelkAceaddon Ace00-2.0: library"fubarplugin-2.0" does not exist    I got everthing in the interface folder, anyone has an idea?
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10:14.24Srosh~seen devla
10:14.53purldevla <n=Devla@69.49.158.29> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 237d 10h 37s ago, saying: 'hai!'.
10:14.57evlSomeone said AceLocale-2.2 should be backwards compatible with 2.2, however I'm getting an error trying to do L:GetTable, what's the new syntax?
10:15.34abbatHmmm... Something problems with TrainerFu
10:15.39Koffiemelkanyone knows there tto get "tablet-2.0" it's not in the files folder
10:15.50abbatThey recognize now as CrayonLib
10:16.07Sroshsomeone got FonTabulous working with WoW2.0?
10:16.11abbatI mean FuBar recognize TrainerFu as CrayonLib ;(
10:16.49phyberKoffiemelk: http://www.wowace.com/files/TabletLib/
10:16.49kodewulfKoffiemelk: http://www.wowace.com/files/TabletLib/
10:17.02kodewulfphyber: yeah... beat ya... :D
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10:17.13phybernegative peon, my screen is the correct one! ;)
10:17.20phyberby a whole second :p
10:17.25phyberdamn lag ;)
10:17.25nevcairielphyber is first on mine too
10:17.32nevcairiel:)
10:17.45kodewulfdamn... damn... damn... can't win at anything... *sulk*
10:18.05phyberyou win at toolboxes.
10:18.21kodewulfhehehe...
10:19.10kodewulfToolbox was a nice idea, then Blizzard went and put all that stuff in Wow... now I gotta come up with some new functions... :)
10:19.15CIA-1703Tristan * r19468 10Tankalyze/ (. Core.lua Localization.lua Tankalyze.toc):
10:19.16CIA-17Tankalyze:
10:19.16CIA-17- Updated for 2.0
10:19.49Elkano~wave CIA
10:20.04purlBye, CIA
10:20.10Koffiemelkthanks got it     damn deucecommander got it's own lib directory while i have them installed.. so you have to change the link
10:20.11MoonWolf~botsnack
10:20.11purlMoonWolf: thanks
10:20.39nevcairiel~moonsnack
10:20.58Elkano~ale
10:21.05Worfi just found what blizzard propably calls "Main Tank Targets"... i don't know if i should laugh or cry...
10:21.06Koffiemelkanyways fubar and deucecommander working finally with agunitframes as well yay
10:21.31nevcairielthe bug with the wrong chat window focused on login _still_ isnt fixed
10:21.33nevcairielgogo blizz
10:22.05sylvanaarmust be really difficult to fix lol
10:22.41sylvanaarthey been pretty busy breaking everything anyways
10:23.37aE|neXterWorf: where and how?
10:24.13nevcairielhrm
10:24.18nevcairielsqueenix moves the worldmap
10:24.26nevcairieleh the minimap
10:24.31nevcairielbut the worldmap icon still stays up there
10:24.32WorfaE|neXter, hold shift and drag a unit out of the raid interface... then klick "show target" in the popup of that frame ...
10:24.33nevcairielwtf :D
10:24.54aE|neXteromg
10:25.06WorfaE|neXter, exactely
10:25.09aE|neXternow that's very intuitive...
10:25.56waffle^_nevcairiel: squeenix has an option to turn off the worldmap icon
10:26.41nevcairielit should still move it :D
10:26.56nevcairielbut yeah i found that option :=)
10:28.51Worfany pet user around? what is wrong with "/petattack [target=unitid]" ?
10:29.46Koffiemelkanyone knows some nice actionbars without 543543643 options? looking for something basic that let's me remove the blizzard bar. I used to have nurfed actionbars for this
10:30.07Koffiemelkany comment or tips will be appreciated! ;)
10:30.56yacoobKoffiemelk, Bongos or Bartender3?
10:31.14Koffiemelklet me check them out. Damn nurfed really got nerfed!
10:31.15MoonWolfWat heeft koffiemelk hier nu weer mee te maken ?
10:31.29TenraiGeen flauw idee.
10:31.48MoonWolfWat is er met goede oude NORMALE nicknames gebeurd.
10:31.55TenraiJe vergeet een vraagteken
10:32.00MoonWolfnee.
10:32.18Jahithberdit is de nick van mijn broer, boeiend :>
10:33.00MoonWolfHeel erg, als industrial nu online kon komen kunnen we die wereld dominatie plannen ff bespreken.
10:33.27sylvanaarits so much like german
10:33.35MoonWolfBut not!
10:33.56sylvanaarje
10:36.27odttopscorefu isn't working either :(
10:36.32odtnot registering new records
10:36.42sylvanaarit works on beta at least
10:36.50CIA-1703evl * r19469 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBar.toc Localization_enUS.lua): GonffBar - Converted to AceLocale-2.2 for complete WoW 2.0 compliance
10:37.37evlCan I Gonff it, yes i can!
10:37.48haste:D
10:37.56hasteIRC at school, sucks to have to wait :(
10:38.07evlhaste: wtf man
10:38.16evlhaste: I'm dying in a pool of my own blood here
10:38.19evlhaste: Get one and :D
10:38.19evl[11:37] <haste> IRC at school, sucks to have to wait :(
10:38.22nymbiableh, WTB wiki up :(  need api docs!
10:38.34nymbianext best thing, i'll go to sleep and hope they're up tomorrow.
10:38.38nymbianight guys
10:38.39hastewell, I'm home in like... 1h and 30min or so
10:38.47Wobinahehe
10:38.50hastethen it's right back to working on oUF2 :)
10:38.50TenraiNight, nymbia.
10:38.52WobinI was about to commit that change
10:38.53evlhaste: Any alpha version of oUF anywhere? agUF just ain't doing it for me (could be something to do with the fact that it doesn't display combo points and I'm a rogue)
10:38.59Wobinthanks evl =)
10:39.08evlWobin: np :)
10:39.17hasteevl: hehe, I'll see if I can get into my "coding" mood
10:39.21Tenraievl, isnt there a perl one out there?
10:39.25hasteie. ignore everything for several hours while completing stuff
10:39.29evlew, perl is like ewwww
10:39.33hastehaha
10:39.48evlKill In Style™ is my motto
10:39.53hasteI get tons of whine regarding oUF, I Actually thought most people had dumped it in favour for agUF :D
10:39.56wallen22.5 increasing KiB/S, duh :(
10:40.03MoonWolfhaste, did i ever ask you to hav emy man babies ?
10:40.08hastewallen: using any addons that use CandyBars?
10:40.13wallenno
10:40.18wallenI am getting a lot of this event
10:40.18wallensec
10:40.18evlhaste: The theme system doesn't work for me, I like the one style approach of oUF
10:40.30evlhaste: and I don't really like any addons that use half XML/half LUA either.
10:40.31wallenhttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1489/wowscrnshot120706053207fx8.jpg
10:40.32Tenraievl, aguUF shows CP's to me in any case.
10:40.37hasteevl: I'm not sure what it is with oUF, but it feels funny
10:40.37dafirehaste: oUF2 ... YES :)
10:40.41wallencheck that, haste
10:40.43evlonly itty bitty combo point icons
10:40.48evlI need a big counter
10:40.56evlthere's an option for it in the theme files but it ain't implementede.
10:41.01TenraiHence why I was that Statusbars was still compatible.
10:41.16wallenthere is obviously one addon I am using that is kind of leaking memory
10:41.22Tenraiwish*
10:41.29hastewallen: well not really, compost was just hiding it earlier
10:41.34hasteor 'hiding'
10:41.52hastecompos = less incease, but more cpu usage, if I
10:41.59haste'm not wrong
10:42.08haste(I officially hate this keyboard)
10:42.14wallenI see
10:42.36evlhaste: it wouldn't be possible with a oUF that worked like the old one I suppose?
10:42.38hastethe reason we used compost was to prevent the GC spikes you would get without it
10:42.46evlI don't really need to click anything, as long as the display bit works :P
10:42.55hasteevl: worked like the old one?
10:43.02Sroshsomeone got FonTabulous working with WoW2.0?
10:43.07hasteevl: you know that oUF is like... one year old :D
10:43.08wallenso having a heavier memory usage is kind of normal now
10:43.13Elkanohaste, well, not prevent but making the occure less often (and not caused by us)
10:43.13evlhaste: I know but i <3 it
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10:43.27hasteElkano: yeh, that's a more correct way of putting it
10:43.39hastebut it did help tho' :)
10:44.15FtH|eagleAnyone else getting a strange error with bugsack/buggrabber and any ace2 addon?
10:44.21hasteevl: but anyway, like the old one? what was different?
10:44.35evlhaste: i just want oUF like oUF is in the SVN :P
10:44.42dafireFtH|eagle: what is a strange error ? is it showing up in rainbow colors ? ;)
10:44.52hasteevl: well, the only major change is that it's in one folder now
10:45.02evlhaste: oh nice :)
10:45.07hasteevl: I'll probably make use of AceModulecore, so  you can split it up if you want too
10:45.18MoonWolfyay
10:45.22hasteI've only fixed the 'core' parts so far
10:45.32MoonWolfwill it include long energy bars option ?
10:45.33evlSo it isn't that far away I suppose
10:45.42hasteMoonWolf: not at first I'm afraid
10:45.53hasteI will be adding a semi-theme system I think
10:45.54MoonWolf:(
10:46.01hastelike I planned
10:46.01FtH|eagleI call this a error: [2006/12/07 11:45:02-1533-x1]: <unknown>:AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:916: in main chunk ---
10:46.08FtH|eagle+strange
10:46.38hasteI'm thinking of making oUF my main focus again tho'!
10:46.50evlhaste: QFT!
10:46.53MoonWolfyay
10:46.55hastesince people seem to use it :D
10:47.01TenraioUF <3
10:47.12hasteand I've gotten a rumour about being against all features that change the addons site
10:47.13evlmy whole guild uses it afaik
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10:48.02haste"The comments I've seen from otravi seem to indicate he hates new functionality making his addon bigger, and points people to Antagonist for the enemy cast.
10:48.06haste:D:D:D
10:48.17evlWell less IS more
10:48.37hasteyes ofc, I don't think people will enjoy my approach on "oUF3"
10:48.38Fiskerhaste fix your addons!
10:48.44MoonWolfno less is NOT more less is less
10:48.54hasteIt's back to the good old 'FOLDERS!!!11'
10:48.56MoonWolfif less whas more people would call it more isntead of less.
10:48.57Silainhaste, are you planning an ouf3 then? :D
10:49.12hasteSilain: I\ve been writing on it for some time
10:49.25hasteI was hoping the 2.0 patch would be later, so I could finish it also
10:49.37hasteI also have a position library in my mind
10:49.49hastesince I _need_ everything to be perfectly aligned
10:49.55Silain:)
10:49.56Fiskermore oskin, otravi, oapplication and less ouf :P
10:49.56LaricworkI wonder that tofu is really doing since it breaks all fubar plugins
10:50.17Elkanobut if less == "more" and more == "more" then less == more
10:50.18hasteFisker: oApplication will take a little while I think
10:50.20Silainis there an ace2 mod that works like CT_ViewPort?
10:50.30hasteFisker: as two of the three functions it uses to work are now locked >D
10:50.36Fisker>:I
10:50.42SroshSilain, Skinner got that functionality
10:50.44hasteand this shit windows computer just switched to English keyboard
10:50.46MoonWolfSilain, i know skinner has that bult in.
10:50.47Fiskerwhat? Apply to offhand, and apply to mainhand? :D
10:50.50hastehow do I fix that :D _
10:50.58Fiskeralt+shift
10:51.01Silainnice :)
10:51.03evlHehe, ditto haste. Right now I use /msbt and bring up the scrolling area config dialog, then i put the information (0, 200) down to -350 and i can perfectly align and space my frames in one go! :)
10:51.03Silainty...
10:51.03hasteFisker: I kinda delayed the whole right clicking in the inventory
10:51.10hasteehey, that worked Fisker !
10:51.11Silainand do bartender3 includes cooldown count?
10:51.24hasteSilain: yes
10:51.30Silainthan you haste
10:51.33Silain*thank :)
10:51.35Fiskeromnicc is better though
10:51.36Fisker:P
10:51.37Elkanolol? is the WDB cache still broken on enGB client? ^^
10:51.39hasteno idea if it works tho'
10:51.50hastesince I don't have my actionbar up
10:51.57Fiskerlooks like it
10:52.04Fiskerblizzard doesn't care about EU peoplee
10:52.35Fiskerand eu cms don't care about eu people
10:52.41Fiskerand vivendi doesn't care about anyone
10:52.42TovortI can't log into my account - since last night - this "Version cannot be verified" issue ...
10:52.47Fiskerso we're pretty screwed
10:52.47hastehas to be lots of the eu cms
10:52.57hastesince we have four different replying on our realmforum
10:52.58ElkanoFisker, well, at least I know how to fix it ^^
10:53.20Fiskeryeah make a enUS directory right? :P
10:53.21MoonWolfcm's are people paid to troll forums.
10:53.23TovortElkano: enlighten us
10:53.23nevcairielElkano fix the loot bug in frames resized :/
10:53.26Fiskerindeed MoonWolf
10:53.59FiskerWords cannot describe what i feel about being banned for ascii when some retard cm has ascii in his sig
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10:55.12hasteFisker: isn't that quite normal, admins can do almost whatever they like, as long as it doesn't kill users :D
10:55.16Fiskeranyways haste otravi and oskin is my life :O
10:55.28sbumah
10:55.37nevcairielwhats otravi?
10:55.38ElkanoTovort, at least in beta, creating the folders where they would be on enUS solved the problem
10:55.38sbuneed to disable aguf in raid
10:55.39sbu:(
10:55.44nevcairielbeside hastes old name
10:55.52Elkanoso data\enUS\WDB\ should work
10:55.55Fiskernevcairiel some buypoison remake like stuff
10:56.06haste"The comments I've seen from otravi seem to indicate he hates new functionality making his addon bigger, and points people to Antagonist for the enemy cast.
10:56.10hastedamn it
10:56.12hasteI suck at windows
10:56.13TovortElkano: Thanks, i'll give it a try
10:56.20Fiskerdoesn't work anymore Elkano
10:56.22Fiskerjust tried ;(
10:56.23haste"Conclusion? CTRA is hurting - apparently NONE of these problems exist with oRA (we're likely to change entirely unless CTRA gets fixed shortly, and our mod guy is gone so we can't exactly fix it ourselves)."
10:56.27hastethere :D
10:56.33Wobinmuhaha
10:56.35hastenevcairiel: it means to poison, and it's Russian I think
10:56.43Wobinwhat problems are they encountering?
10:56.48WobinI know we're having issues with tankwindows
10:56.52hastenevcairiel: thinking of the addon?
10:57.03hasteWobin: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9516
10:57.15hastelist of issues there
10:57.33nevcairielhaste: yes the addon
10:58.40hastenevcairiel: it buys poisons, and it uses itemid's and not localized information like every other poison add on does
10:59.00hastenevcairiel: it also forgets to check the inventory as I didn't enable the feature by a mistake, so if you have 230 vials, it buys some more
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10:59.10nevcairiellol
10:59.12oxmanOy =')
10:59.15nevcairielmore vials!
10:59.20oxmanAny news about perfectraid on 2.x ?
10:59.49Fisker- Anub'rhekan: I CAN SEE THIS BASTARD FINALLY!  Otherwise not changed.  Seemed to take a lot longer than normal.  
10:59.49Fiskerhehe
10:59.55odtskinner bugs on inspectframe
11:00.06Silviu-[2006/12/07 12:59:50-4-x1]: Glory-2.0\Glory-2.0.lua:1238: attempt to index local 'o' (a nil value)
11:00.28nevcairielthey finally fixed the gfx bug on anub?
11:00.43restorednevcairiel: has the pageswitching been enabled in bartender3 ? Ican't get it to wrok :/
11:00.44hastenevcairiel: if you look at the code, you can see that the buy function has a third argument, which never is used :D
11:00.48restoredwork even
11:00.58hastenevcairiel: that arguments checks your bags for regeants before buying more :D
11:01.19nevcairielrestored: yes it has, which version do you use?
11:01.21wallenis anyone getting errors with Autobar by the way
11:01.21wallen?
11:01.41nevcairielhaste: and you cba to just activate it ? :D
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11:01.59restorednevcairiel: r19340
11:02.09nevcairielupdate
11:02.22nevcairieli think i fixed it in .. 4xx
11:02.24hastenevcairiel: something like that
11:02.38hastenevcairiel: remind me to do it when I get home
11:02.43hasteprobably leaving any minute now
11:02.49nevcairielnot that i care
11:02.53nevcairieli dont play a rogue
11:02.53nevcairiel:D
11:03.05haste:(
11:03.20hasteI play Rogue/Warlock, and my Shaman is retired :D
11:03.29nevcairieli can spec feral if you want, but thats as close as i can get
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11:04.26Fiskerrogue next then haste
11:05.13restorednevcairiel: worked like a charm :D Thanks a bunch.. Too bad Blizz removed the hostile/friendly autopageshift option :/
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11:05.56zoktarnice
11:06.01zoktarsvn at normal speed
11:06.52Fiskerso skinner = oskin now?
11:06.54Fisker:o
11:07.01wallenhaste, did you have any luck at finding some macro/Script that adapts your life tap rank to your current health ?
11:07.37ElkanoFisker, how abozt Cache\WDB\enGB\ ?
11:08.17Fiskerwhat's cache all about?
11:08.24Fiskerthat was just for the torrent downloader :O
11:08.32Fiskerbut i'll try
11:08.59zoktardotimers had nice feture of manatapping auto if u tried to cast a spell without mana
11:09.02phyberwallen: are you living in last week?  how would that work now?
11:09.09zoktarwasnt scalable but still nice
11:09.18zoktarlifetapping i mean
11:09.24nevcairielbeta is weird, i have a pretty high memory usage from addons there
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11:09.27nevcairielsame addons on live
11:09.31nevcairieland like 10mb less
11:09.32nevcairiel:o
11:09.47Fiskernone of it works Elkano
11:10.41SroshFisker, there's a \Data\enGB\WDB but it's empty for me
11:11.05Fiskeryup
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11:13.10sbugmpf damn
11:13.34Silainthere's a way to see keybindings on buttons in bartender3 ?
11:13.46zoktarhmm what should i replace necronomicon with?
11:13.52Silaingn
11:13.53Silainhm
11:13.54Silaindid it
11:13.55Silainsry :P
11:14.13Elkanowell, \Cache\WDB\enGB\ works for me on beta
11:14.28Fiskerdata\cache or cache\?
11:14.30ElkanoWorld of Warcraft\Cache\WDB\enGB\ works on live :)
11:14.42Fiskeri still have nothing in my folders
11:14.51ElkanoI do have :)
11:15.25Fiskerah
11:15.29Fiskerdid it now
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11:16.25johAny Squishy people here?
11:16.29CIA-1703pb_ee1 * r19470 10MultiSpellEffect/: MultiSpellEffect: Deleted from the SVN. This AddOn isn't needed anymore, thanks to the new macro system.
11:16.44dafirenevcairiel: i guess the wow binaries on beta are not optimized and have more debug stuff in it causing overhead on lua addons ;)
11:17.08yacoobI wonder whether I'd be able to update addons today...
11:17.42Wobinjoh: Squishy is no more
11:17.53yacoobLet's join in a minute of silence for Squishy.
11:18.04Wobin~silence
11:19.50Srosh~seen Iceroth
11:20.19purliceroth is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 219 messages. Is idling for 3h 59m 42s, last said: 'yeah those were so damn weird first :p'.
11:22.33Psykovskylook at this: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1354/wowscrnshot120706132058xk2.jpg
11:22.45Psykovskydidn't test bongos actionbar bindings yet
11:23.06Psykovskybut what addon could draw those odd looking action bars in top left corner
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11:23.31nevcairielthat looks like itemrack or something
11:23.36nevcairielat least something with items
11:23.37nevcairiel:;)
11:23.39Psykovskyno no
11:23.40Psykovskylower
11:23.46Psykovskythe top one is itemrack
11:23.52PsykovskyI mean the ugly square
11:23.55Psykovskybig one
11:23.59nevcairieloh
11:24.01nevcairielno idea
11:24.44aE|neXterflexbar with its full 120 btn out maybe?
11:24.55Psykovskyflex... lemme check...
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11:28.08CIA-1703moonsorrow * r19471 10XRS/ (5 files):
11:28.08CIA-17XRS:
11:28.08CIA-17- removed compost
11:28.08CIA-17- buffing now works again (only clicking on the specific buff)
11:28.09CIA-17- key bindings for every buff are coming soon
11:28.09CIA-17- removed Bindings.xml
11:28.46nevcairielFtH|eagle: buffing only ooc i assume?
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11:29.45evlhaste: times up, get working! :PO
11:29.55Fiskeranyone got some wiki about item links and what the different numbers mean in the itemlink
11:30.00Elkanoxrs was what?
11:30.03Fiskerlike itemid:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?
11:30.08nevcairielxraidstatus
11:30.21ElkanoFisker, only 8 numbers iirc ;)
11:30.24Mikmahttp://www.e-michael.jp/gallery.htm
11:30.33abbatMikma
11:30.45sbuhmm
11:30.48abbatHelp bloody russian plz :)
11:31.06abbatWhere i can get Align (mod which draw grid) for wow2.0
11:31.06sbu1-2s lag every time something in my raidgroup changes :/
11:31.08Fiskerwhatever Elkano didn't want to actually count them :P
11:31.10haarmMikkZzz, your shabby battletext told me to riposte when i don't even have the talent!
11:31.12sbu(leave, join, ...)
11:31.15zoktarhmm do i need to copy some libs to bt3?
11:31.19Mikmaabbat: from my supersecret warehouse
11:31.33abbatGive me url plz ;)
11:31.45Fiskerbtw
11:31.51Fiskerwhat about the 10% rank 3 bonus
11:31.53Fiskeron prices
11:31.58PsykovskyYes it was Flex, now when I disabled it FuBar addons aint showing anymore... :/
11:32.00nevcairielits gone Fisker
11:32.16abbatAnd Mikma, DMF much better then visor2, but visor2 is damnd nice
11:32.27Takadiabbat: just change the "## Interface: 11200" to "## Interface: 20000"
11:32.35Fiskerso any bartender 3 styles available besides the defaults?
11:32.45Mikmaabbat: http://pastey.net/3167
11:33.22nevcairielFisker: cyCircled supports BT3, so you get circled skins
11:33.25abbatTakadi, wow2.0 have differenet system to get heigh/width
11:33.56evlDual monitor at work with wow in windowed 800x600 coding ftw
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11:34.08Takadiabbat: I know, but changing the interface version worked on my system :)
11:34.23Silviu-This patch sux hard :/
11:34.24abbatYep
11:34.42Silviu-too many errors
11:34.44abbatbut grid drawing wrong
11:35.01FtH|eaglenevcairiel: sure
11:35.32FtH|eaglewas even easier to implement than I thought
11:36.07nevcairieli guess you simple edit the unit attribute
11:37.18Sroshnevcairiel, /please/ bring back sticky frames to BT3 =)
11:37.33FtH|eagleset the type to spell, the unit to your target and the actual spell to spell
11:38.28yacoobvisor2? cool.
11:38.41Fiskerhmm
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11:38.51Fiskerbartender3's selfcast doesn't work if you have a friendly target selected
11:38.54Fiskerpretty silly
11:38.59Fiskerwell the rightclick selfcast anyways
11:39.04nevcairielit doesnt?
11:39.17Fiskerdidn't here
11:39.24Fiskercould be because the bandage was out of range though
11:39.27nevcairieli only use alt selfcast
11:39.57Fiskerwell it tries to bandage my target with rightclick
11:40.05FiskerMy demands:
11:40.13Fiskeroh wait, i have no use for rightclick selfcast :/
11:40.38yacoob"Here, lady Onyxia, lemme apply this linen bandage to your wounds..."
11:40.58nevcairielworks for me
11:41.01nevcairielthe rightclick selfcast
11:41.04zoktarso is there a trick to get bt3 to load?
11:41.15nevcairielnot with bandages tho
11:41.15nevcairiel:D
11:41.24Fiskerhehe
11:41.30FiskerYOU MUST FIX VERY IMPORTANT STUFF
11:41.38Fiskeri never use autobar, _EVER_
11:41.39Fisker:P
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11:42.49JensWTB: Working addons :(
11:43.13zoktaris there like a error paste channel ? =P
11:43.25zoktarits the global nil value errors again
11:43.42Fiskerace.pastey.net
11:43.42wallendoes anyone get this while using autobar ? http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1092/wowscrnshot120706124155np8.jpg
11:44.07[Cu]Werikdoh!
11:44.13PsykovskyThe addon that stopped other FuBars to show up was FuBar-ToFu
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11:44.37Psykovskyatleast everuthing works with this one disabled
11:44.38Psykovsky:)
11:44.38Melisandrehi
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11:44.52yacoobugh, what a fat font, wallen.
11:45.20Silainhey guys, I can't found grid on WAU... is that normal?
11:45.27JensI envy you wallen... your Fubar works.
11:46.05nevcairielfubar didnt have any problems for me
11:47.05Silviu-ag_UF work with Mobinfo2 ?
11:47.07JensI need to rework my addons... add new, remove old. But it's uninteresting when no addon sites work.
11:47.23Silviu-Cause mobhealth generates way too many errors for me a lot of action block things
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11:47.41dafirehmm.. if i checkout bigwigs with externals from svn.wowace.com i get babble-boss-2.2 rev 15606 .. when i check out babble from dev svn i get revision 19042
11:47.47dafirethat's not that good .9
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11:49.07Silviu-Strange i have 19348 :)
11:49.11Silviu-babble-boss-2.2
11:49.28dafirehmmm
11:49.30snurremy Ace2 keeps getting blocked :(
11:49.37Silviu-Babble-2.2: (Babble-Boss-2.2) updated "Eye of C'Thun" frFR translation
11:49.45Silviu-This is latest
11:49.49Silviu-for me at least
11:49.56Silviu-i use svn2.wowace.com
11:50.25dafirei check my side again.. 9
11:50.39Mikmayay svn works now
11:50.40nevcairielthats the latest on the dev svn as well
11:50.48nevcairieldev svn always worked Mikma
11:50.49nevcairiel:)
11:50.55Mikmanot getting hammered that hard i guess
11:51.00Mikmanevcairiel: no it didn't :(
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11:51.12Nickenyfikenlalala
11:51.21nevcairieli kinda feel like i am missing some mods
11:51.23dafireok .. was my fault .99
11:51.24nevcairielbut i dont know which
11:51.28Nickenyfikenhmm is cyCircled 2.0 compat?
11:51.31Mikmanevcairiel: bigwigs and ora
11:51.34nevcairielhave those
11:51.57Mikmanevcairiel: clique and shifter
11:52.03nevcairielwtf is shifter?
11:52.11nevcairieland i dont use click-casting
11:52.34Mikma## Title: Shifter |cff7fff7f -Ace2-|r
11:52.34Mikma## Notes: Ace2 version of Swift Shift.
11:52.42nevcairielwhats Swift Shift?
11:53.04Mikma:O helps you with druid shapeshifts
11:53.05Nickenyfikenlol
11:53.14Nickenyfikenwhat is a Druid?
11:53.38Mikmaie. if you use f1 to transform into a bear, you can press ie. f4 (which could be traverform) to unshapeshift
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11:53.52nevcairieli click my forms
11:53.53nevcairielhehe
11:54.03Mikmayeah but with swifter it's so sweet
11:54.06evlHow do I call the original method from a SecureHook?
11:54.12evlself.hooks["InspectUnit"](unit) isn't working (index is nil)
11:54.12nevcairielevl: you dont
11:54.19Mikmayou can press the same button twice to get you into humanform and then get you into that form
11:54.21evlso that will never work?
11:54.38nevcairiela SecureHook automagically calls the orig function, before yours actually
11:54.42evlaha :)
11:54.51dafirei use my mousewheel to change stance... press it left for combat, press it down for def, and press it right for berserk .. (mx1000)
11:56.09noedwww.wowace.com down?
11:56.15nevcairieli dont generally switch too often in combat
11:56.16zoktaryay bt3 workin
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11:56.29mupphmm
11:56.31zoktaris there a fubar config for bt3 yet?
11:56.40evldoubtful
11:56.41muppIs there any working ace2 selfcast addon?
11:56.42Nickenyfikenzoktar: yes
11:56.47Mikmanevcairiel: after all the cba bitching you gave us you still fixed bt3 paging. thats love!
11:56.50noedwhere did you get it from zoktar? mine just give me some fubar error
11:56.53zoktarNickenyfiken pls tell ;P
11:57.08zoktarnoed i had to download the libs separatly
11:57.08evlmost "modern" ace2 addons use Dew menus
11:57.09Nickenyfikenmy BT3 have always had fubar config
11:57.11evlwhich works very nice
11:57.20Silainis there a way to remove buffs from player frame in ag_uf?
11:57.23Nickenyfikenas long as i have used it
11:57.30muppsilain: set auras to hide
11:57.30nevcairielMikma: yeah .. but self-casting isnt working on a bar switched to with <modifier> :D
11:57.39nevcairielMikma: right-click selfcasting, anyway
11:57.41noedso thats why no ace addon seems to work? you gotta sort out their libs yourself?
11:57.41dafirehmm.. bongos use bar 6,7,8 for stances on my warrior to show on bar 1 .. why don't it use the buttons from bar 1 on any stance ? thats a waste of that bar i think
11:57.42NickenyfikenSilain: alt+rclick frame and look at the options
11:57.56Mikmanevcairiel: lol who uses rightclick to selfcast anyway since there's selfcast in the game now :)
11:58.10aE|neXtertinytip2.0 on the horizont?
11:58.12Nickenyfikeni use right click for selfcast
11:58.13nevcairieldafire: thats default UI behaviour and nearly all action bar addons use that
11:58.16Sroshnevcairiel, I can't assign "Mousewheel Up" or "Mousewheel Down" as keybindings
11:58.20muppthe ingame selfcast is flawed
11:58.22Mikmatinytip works in TBC/2.0
11:58.26Nickenyfikentinytip is working in 2.0 here
11:58.27Silainty mupp, I didn't noticed the name aura meaning for buffs :)
11:58.31dafireaE|neXter: tinytip works on 2.0 .. there is just a bug with mobinfo2
11:58.39Sroshyep, tho I get hooking error on login with tinytip
11:58.42zoktarnoed yeh, download the libs separatly and disable any lib packages u have
11:58.42Nickenyfikenmobinfo2 sucks
11:58.44aE|neXterhmm, ok, then i'm gonna update it again...
11:58.50noedsince im a noob, someone can tell me how to find out what libs each addon uses?
11:58.52nevcairieltinytip works for me :o
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11:59.01aE|neXterSrosh: same with me here
11:59.07zoktarnoed like dewdroplib and tabletlib for example
11:59.44noedzoktar: yeah, but how do i find out what libs each addon use? can i read it in some .lua or toc file or something?
11:59.52aE|neXteryeah, toc file
11:59.57noedok, ty
11:59.59Mikmaonly thing i found broken in TinyTip was the ManaBar
12:00.27Psykovskyok guys, EVERYTHING is now working, still getting some error messages, but it seems to work OK...
12:00.30NickenyfikenMikma: found anything broken in TrainerFu? (if you still use it)
12:00.42MikmaNickenyfiken: no, yes :)
12:00.51Nickenyfikenok good :-)
12:00.51Mikmas/yes/(yes)/
12:00.56zoktarnoed im fixing my ui now aswell, buggrabber+bugsack helps alot
12:01.06Nickenyfikenhehe
12:01.20evlhaste: I've soon fixed oUF for 2.0 (from aprox r14857)
12:01.25noedgotta hate patchdays, and this seems to be the worst ever so far
12:01.38hasteevl: I'm not converting the old one
12:01.43hasteevl: I'm rewriting stuff :p
12:01.50MoonWolfits going to be new and improvededed
12:01.53Sroshno suprise with the scope of the changes :p
12:01.56evlhaste: I know but for me and others who are to impatient
12:02.08Mikmayay for oHaste
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12:02.21noedlibs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua  etc is just ace2 libs? i just need ace2 for all those right?
12:02.26NickenyfikenoHaste?
12:02.29hasteevl: do it as a branch then please, 'cause else you mess up my diff :p
12:02.37MikmaNickenyfiken: yes
12:03.09evlhaste: I won't commit it evert
12:03.17Mikmahaste: explain to Nickenyfiken what is oHaste
12:03.18MoonWolfbut i want a working ouf too
12:03.20evlhaste: It's against the purpose, filled with dirty hacks to make it "work"
12:03.23MoonWolfshare with the world evl
12:03.24Sroshnoed, yes
12:03.29noedgoodie =)
12:03.29hasteevl: haha :p
12:03.31evlnot via SVN, zip's max
12:04.03evlonly thing I need now is to make the clicking code not freak out :P
12:04.04Laricworkis there any safe way to hook the chat windows now?
12:04.17Laricworkthat doesnt taint?
12:04.28nevcairieli think ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler
12:04.33nevcairielor something like that
12:05.03wallenWhat is the command to trigger the "Follow" button for your pet ?
12:05.10vhaarrLaricwork: Yes, ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler, look at BossBlock in BigWigs\Plugins for an example.
12:05.11wallenI used to have a macro which now gets blocked
12:05.33hasteMikma: no idea :D
12:05.38SroshI want my FonTabulous back =/
12:05.41Mikmahaste: it's you, stupid!
12:05.59hasteMikma: aww, thought you had a deeper meaning
12:06.39Mikmahaste: ok ok, it's the back of your rectum
12:06.50zoktarwich addon site works now ?
12:06.53hastenarf narf
12:06.58hastewowace.com/files ?
12:07.05zoktarworldofwar and cursegaming seem fsked ;P
12:07.11zoktarwell besides that ;P
12:07.29Mikmahaste: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1165492895989.jpg
12:07.47noedwow got bt3 working =D thanks alot
12:08.12axxofor some reason i doubt that img is sfw
12:08.57Mikma~wtf sfw
12:09.26Nickenyfikenhmm whats up with agUF and glorylib?
12:09.32Nickenyfikenspamming my bugsack
12:10.00Laricworkthanks for the info vhaarr and nevcairiel
12:10.04axxopurl: sfw means safe for work
12:10.06evlWhat are people doing instead of TargetUnit  now?
12:10.09Silviu-Nickenyfiken mine too i disabled aguf monhealth clearfont
12:10.16Silviu-let`s see if i still get now ..
12:10.24Silviu-mobhealth*
12:10.27snurre[2006/12/07 12:16:43-15-x25]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'CloseLoot()'.
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12:10.41Silviu-That`s from Xloot i think
12:10.43axxosnurre: blizzard bug!
12:11.23GreywindI thought TBC was supposed to get a patch tuesday also so that Xloot would work but i guess i was wrong :(
12:11.45snurreseems xloot, bt3 and necrosis are all trying to fire blocked actions
12:11.58odtprobably the embeds
12:12.08Silviu-bt3 too ?
12:12.19odtmy bugsack only fills in bg's
12:12.20Silviu-Atm at me not
12:12.25Silviu-Yes mine too
12:12.32snurre[2006/12/07 12:19:29-15-x19]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'MultiBarRight:SetPoint()'.
12:12.45snurre[2006/12/07 12:19:29-15-x19]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'ShapeshiftBarFrame:SetPoint()'.FrameX
12:13.06nevcairielits not bt3s fault
12:13.11Mikmahaste: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1165488919372.jpg <- i has cat
12:13.11nevcairielsome other addon taints there
12:13.25hasteMikma: debugging my WoW right now, can't check D:
12:13.32hasteI have 2fps in-game =\
12:13.47Mikmahaste: aww, sucks 2 bu
12:13.53Silviu-My fps is a little lower too BUT my incresing rate is much much bigger
12:14.05boller_Is FuBar_DurabilityFu updated?
12:14.11Silviu-Before patch i had max increase 10 KB in fights
12:14.15vhaarrhttp://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/thesimpsonsmovie/ :D
12:14.19Silviu-Now, 30 when i stay :/
12:14.26nevcairielSilviu-: use duratek
12:14.28nevcairielehh
12:14.34nevcairielboller_: use duratek
12:14.42boller_ah ok thanks
12:14.42nevcairieldamn scrolling chat :D
12:15.58LaricworkChatFrame_MessageEventHandler does any of you know the args? Cannot find it on wowwiki
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12:16.24evlWill CreateFrame("SecureUnitButtonTemplate ", n, UIParent) work?
12:16.47nevcairielno
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12:17.09nevcairielyou need to do CreateFrame("Button", name, UIParent, "SecureUnitButtonTemplate")
12:17.25evlnevcairiel: I owe you a beer(s)
12:17.35hiflyerjust a quick question...bartender2 or 3?
12:17.42evl3
12:17.46vhaarrLaricwork: arg1 is the event, like CHAT_MSG_WHISPER, and arg2 is the text.
12:17.55Greywindyay Healwind is now 65
12:18.10Greywindgogo drooid pwer
12:18.14Greywind:P
12:18.19nevcairieli am 69 now :D
12:18.26nevcairielso close
12:18.28Greywindmy favorite number :P
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12:18.33nevcairiel:p
12:18.40Greywind:D
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12:19.36Greywindnevcairiel: do you have a druid too?
12:20.04nevcairielonly char i really play is a druid
12:20.40Greywindme too, although i'm seriosly liking my warlock i abandoned a year ago. I copied her over and now she is 63 hehe
12:20.41nevcairieland "she" is 69 :)
12:20.57Nickenyfikenhmm wtf 32mib initial mem use now and i had like 25 in 1.12 with many more addons
12:21.14muppwhat was the command to set a frame in visor?
12:21.16GreywindHealwind would probably be 67-68 if i would stop playing my warlock :P
12:21.34Laricworkvhaarr can I block my own outgoing whispers that way? I sure hope so :P
12:21.35evlnevcairiel: how do I "emulate" TargetUnit on a frame created from SecureButtonTemplate in 2.0?
12:21.36nevcairieli wanted to get 70 fast to get into the better instances
12:21.57GreywindI tried, i get bored leveling though :P
12:21.58vhaarrLaricwork: Take a look at Plugins\RaidWarn.lua for how to do that.
12:22.05Laricworknice :P
12:22.09nevcairielevl: SetAttribute("type", "target") and SetAttribute("unit", "whoever-you-want")
12:22.16Laricworkbigwigs have hooks everywhere? :P
12:22.18evlaha thanks
12:22.40vhaarrLaricwork: No, only to some chat handlers.
12:22.57Greywindgoodlord healwind has 1500g and i havent even been trying at all
12:23.11nevcairieli copied with like 700g
12:23.15Greywindi copied her over with only 230g, wow
12:23.15nevcairieland now i am on 2000
12:23.26mupp./vz set f=?
12:23.29CIA-1703moonsorrow * r19472 10XRS/ (XRS.lua XRS_BuffClass.lua):
12:23.29CIA-17XRS:
12:23.30CIA-17- keybindings are now working on a per buff basis
12:23.47CIA-1703rabbit * r19473 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Disable the Reboot command instead of hiding it.
12:24.00Greywindwoot I was missing XRS
12:24.08Greywindwell on live anyway
12:24.23Greywindin TBC havent raided once
12:24.38nevcairielthere is point before 70
12:24.38nevcairiel:D
12:24.45Greywindtrue
12:24.54nevcairielbut i hope to get 70 tomorrow .. and join some karazhan fun or so :)
12:25.15Greywindigues it will be like on live though where you get deperate and invite some 68s or 69s :P
12:25.16dr|dranori was kinda lost without xrs yesterday
12:25.35CIA-1703moonsorrow * r19474 10GotWood/ (GotWood.lua GotWood.toc views/CircleView.lua):
12:25.35CIA-17GotWood:
12:25.36CIA-17- removed spellstatus and spellcache
12:25.50Greywindhmm i must go back to leveling, cya :P
12:25.55FtH|eagleeverything should work as before in xrs, only group buffing won't until I talk to ckknight
12:26.07evlnevcairiel: seems I needed to use SetAttribute("type1", "target")
12:26.19nevcairielhm yea
12:26.27nevcairielmy mistake :D
12:26.30Greywindman im missing the Ace forums :`(
12:26.48MoonWolfno kidding
12:26.57boller_Buffalo still not updated?
12:27.21Nickenyfikenis Glorylib fixed or do i have a old version laying around?
12:28.03CIA-1703rabbit * r19475 10BigWigs/Plugins/Colors.lua: BigWigs: Colors: Copy/paste ftw, Shyva? Fix the reset description.
12:28.13Elkano"Bring your friends to Azoroth but dont forget to go outside of Azoroth with them as well." So go visit Outlands with them... ;)
12:28.28Nickenyfikenhaha
12:28.46snurreanyone got a link to msbt?
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12:29.17nevcairielsnurre: http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/bc/MSBT4_0.zip
12:29.34snurresweet, thanks
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12:31.07dr|dranorwtb sticky frames for bt3
12:32.01CIA-1703otravi * r19476 10ApplyToForehead/ApplyToForehead.toc: ApplyToForehead - Still works.
12:32.01oxmanIs it possible to know the server of someone in bg ? Something like UnitServer() ?
12:32.04dr|dranorit's a bit hard to align bars when you scale down to 75%
12:32.41nevcairielstickyframes is on the todo
12:32.44nevcairieljust be patient :)
12:32.46CIA-1703icetrain * r19477 10ClosetGnome_Gatherer/ClosetGnome_Gatherer.lua:
12:32.46CIA-17ClosetGnome_Gatherer:
12:32.46CIA-17- Now hides the gathering sets from the CG menu
12:33.28dr|dranorif i've been able to play tbc beta with trinity buttons i can wait for anything
12:33.57Greywindtrinity isnt that bad...just err quirky
12:34.08Greywindim glad bt3 is out though
12:34.40evlWoot i did it :D
12:34.45evlworking oUF for WoW 2.0
12:35.21Greywindnevcairiel: my brother thanks you for the paging in bt3, he puts all his heals on his pally on the shift page and he was having a hard time playing without it :)
12:36.10nevcairielhehe
12:36.12Greywindnow he beats my ass on his pally >.<
12:36.42oxmanIs it possible to know the server of someone in bg ? Something like UnitServer() ?
12:36.45Greywindmy only comfort is he will have to lvl the BE pally all over again while i will be 70 soon after launch :P
12:37.13Greywindoxman: yeah but its buggy last time i tried it
12:37.28dr|dranorbeware, you will have to rush him some instances :P
12:37.34oxmanand what is the name of the function ?
12:37.42Greywinderr 1 sec
12:37.46Greywindbeen awhile :P
12:37.53evlhttp://www.internetfriendsforever.com/ace/oUF-2.0-Hacked.zip <- Working oUF for WoW 2.0 (YMMV)
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12:40.14CIA-1703schelli * r19478 10FuBar_MCPFu/ (FuBar_MCPFu.lua FuBar_MCPFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_MCPFu : updated to patch 2.0
12:40.42Greywindoxman: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitName
12:40.53CIA-1703schelli * r19479 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/ (FuBar_DebuggerFu.lua FuBar_DebuggerFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_DebuggerFu : updated to patch 2.0 some minor problems still exist
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12:41.06Greywindif they arent in range the realmname var will return nil though :(
12:41.15carlahow do i install ace addons from zip files when the externals are not included?
12:41.17oxmanOh fine thanks Greywind
12:41.27oxmannot a problem for me this bug Greywind :)
12:41.35Greywindokies :)
12:42.49carlano one knows?
12:42.56Beherithas anyone seen the bug that warrior head/leg enchants doenst count (not FR enchants and even not zulgur) they are shown up that the helms are enchantet. but they arent counted at the charpannel
12:42.56dr|dranorgot keybinds working yay!
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12:43.24phybercarla: download the externals separatly! </rocket science>
12:43.42carlado i have to put them in the libs folder in each addon?
12:43.55phyberno, they'll load as separate addons and show up in your addons list.
12:44.27carlacan I download the externals as zip files?
12:44.54phyberyes, otherwise it would have been a pointless suggestion :p
12:45.08carlai cant find them on wowace :/
12:45.32phyberThey might be under slightly different names.  for instance, Tablet-2.0 is under TabletLib in the list.
12:46.01carlaand aceevent and all those?
12:46.09phyberThey are Ace2
12:46.33carlaokay
12:48.37carlacant load Bartender3.. get this error "Interface\ADdons\Bartender3\Core.lua:1: Aceaddon: AceOO-2.0: Libary "FubarPlugin-2.0" does not exist.
12:48.41CIA-1703rabbit * r19480 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0: Update the children when we scale, so headers and hints are positioned correctly.
12:48.56Nickenyfikenbah stupid zip script is causing 90% of the errors
12:50.41hasteMikma: you suck at pastebin-ing :D
12:51.51zoktarcarla download fubarplugin 2.0
12:51.57carlaalready did..
12:52.06zoktarwell did u get the libs for it 2?
12:52.08carlahmm sec
12:52.17carlai think it works now
12:52.17zoktartablet and dewdrop
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12:52.28carlait deactivated itself once i installed the libs, but now it works
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12:52.47carlathanks :)
12:53.08evlDoes orphaned/old files in SavedVariables have any impact on performance?
12:53.23yacoobno, unless something changed in 2.0
12:53.53zoktarshould i bother with the errors from autobar?
12:54.43dr|dranoryou will have to delete the entire wtf folder anyway
12:55.00odti didn't dr|dranor
12:55.01odtworks fine
12:55.16dr|dranori had to do it in order to get keybinds working
12:55.17Dhragaany news on a fix for tiny tip ? It's so hard to play witout it
12:55.38odtDhraga: not broken for me
12:55.41CIA-1703rabbit * r19481 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0: Really make Dewdrop optional, like it says it should be.
12:55.45DhragaOh ?
12:55.45evlDhraga: works for me, want me to zip mine up?
12:55.52DhragaYes please
12:55.58dr|dranorit's working atm
12:56.04Jahithbercant load Bartender3.. get this error "Interface\ADdons\Bartender3\Core.lua:1: Aceaddon: AceOO-2.0: Libary "FubarPlugin-2.0" does not exist.  << install the lib
12:56.09DhragaAre you using the version from 4dec ?
12:56.21carlaJahithber: i did, it works not, it was deactived >,<
12:56.27Laricwork"for iteminfo, itemname in string.gmatch(item, "|Hitem:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)|h%[(.-)%]|h") do " isnt working to find item name anymore.. what is the correct way to do it now?
12:56.28Dhraga18845 that it
12:56.32dr|dranorlatest, i think
12:56.35evlDhraga: here's mine that's working: http://www.internetfriendsforever.com/ace/TinyTip.rar
12:56.41Jahithbermaybe you have to isntall it not int he ace2 but in the lib from the addon
12:56.48Jahithberi had the same problem with deuce
12:56.54evlStandalone libs ofc
12:56.54Dhragaevl, thank you
12:57.15Dhragayes I'm also using standalone
12:57.35odtevl: nice domain you got :)
12:57.36evlthen it shoudl work
12:57.37Dhragagonna try it now
12:57.38Jahithberi moved it to deuce/lib and it was fine    just open the file and look at the line and you see where the addon will look for the library, chance the location or just cope it there and it will work
12:57.44evlodt: hehehe, yeah. It's my new guild
12:58.02evl<Internet Friends Forever>, we hope it will give us a PVP advantage when it's such a dorky name :P
12:58.06Jahithberi btw just fold my WOW account for US500 :(
12:58.09oxmanwhat's the good way to make a global selfcast with rigth click ? RigthWing work only with the blizzard bar
12:58.17odtlol
12:58.30Jahithberso no more wow for me :(
12:58.47odtbuy a new one
12:58.52odtfor 40 i think
12:58.55CIA-1703badhex * r19482 10SliceWatcher/ (5 files): SliceWatcher - Initial upload of mod.
12:58.58evlAnyone runninng Fu_BattleGroundFu in 2.0?
12:59.03odtevl: i am
12:59.08*** join/#wowace DrL|Gedgold (n=bla@213-156-52-122.fastres.net)
12:59.12Jahithberno i am quitting the game.. i had a TF and now i ahve nothing anymore! but i got 500$ yay
12:59.14evlodt: working? :)
12:59.21odtyes
12:59.22evlJahithber: 500 USD is nothing
12:59.22Silainguys, what's the mod photek used in his UI to clear the minimap?
12:59.36evlJahithber: it's 3 weeks at mcdonalds compared to the time you invested
12:59.42evlSorry but I'm just being realistic :)
12:59.43odtbut still got plenty of errors in the bugsack in bg's
12:59.44Jahithberwell with TBC coming it's not worth anything anymore
12:59.50odtbut from different addons
13:00.04odtall related to some bad embeds i think
13:00.08evlaha
13:00.09Grey|awayi actually find with TBC it has revitalized me and my brother's interest
13:00.25Grey|awaymy brother hardly ever played and now he on every night with me
13:00.32Grey|awaybut your opinion
13:01.02evlEverything in moderation
13:01.04odti have 3 lvl60 chars i want to give/sell away to new accounts
13:01.09oxmanthere is not doc about secure template on wowwiki ?
13:01.10evlit's like thinking you'll enjoy the game after grinding to R14
13:01.12evlyou won't.
13:01.25evl(in the old honor system that is)
13:01.28Grey|awaythats why i dont go on every raid
13:01.28DrL|Gedgoldhello, i can't find anymore in ora the option to turn off the MT life frame (i just wanna see his target) , is it definitively gone? should i modify the lua?
13:01.38Jahithberwell you come at a phase you wanna play casual and do some fun stuff, but now you will have to get gear again
13:01.50Jahithberi mean my teir3 and TF and such are worth shit in TBC
13:01.56Grey|awayweird, TBC seems way more casual
13:02.08odttier3 takes you to lvl70 very easily
13:02.12Grey|awayaye
13:02.20Jahithberyes but getting the best gear again will take ages once more
13:02.23odtit's like 2 levels rested exp compared to blue/greens
13:02.24Grey|awaywish i had gotten my tier 3
13:02.25dr|dranorreally easy
13:02.58odtgear alone shouldn't be the purpose of playing
13:02.59Grey|awayi just got a guild that actually raids when im on and we just now got to nef :(
13:03.05CIA-1703badhex * r19483 10SliceWatcher/ (. SliceWatcher.lua): SliceWatcher: - Added Externals.
13:03.25Grey|awayand it looks like i will never see naxx :(
13:03.28odti just quit and come back after some months, when i find it bores me
13:03.33Grey|awaywhich makes me sad
13:03.33Jahithberhaving good gear makes the game more fun. if i kill a rank14 warrior before the stun is even ended i laugh my ass off ;)
13:04.00Grey|awayi prefer a challenge, like killing a warrior in my healing gear :P
13:04.06odtit's like hitting "i win"
13:04.10Grey|awayi havent done it yet but i still try :P
13:04.11odtdoesn't turn me on
13:04.30Grey|awayall the warriors in my guild think im insane :D
13:04.40DhragaEvl, Tested your TinyTip version and it gives me 12 errors, any clue ? : http://pastey.net/3169
13:04.51carlai downloaded tinytip from wowace
13:04.54carlaand it seems to work
13:05.06Grey|awaywe have guild dueling on mondays and i duel everyone in my healing gear and 51 point resto druid :P
13:05.10Dhragais it some other addon that collides with mine then Hmmm
13:05.13dr|dranorbeating a resto druid is painful
13:05.21evlDhraga: Interface\AddOns\EQCompare\EQCompare
13:05.22Grey|awayi can drag that fight out :D
13:05.31dr|dranorspecially if he has feral charge
13:05.33Grey|awayit can last for 30 min or more :P
13:05.40Dhragaevl, I'll disable it and test again
13:05.51odtDhraga: eqcompare
13:05.59Silainguys do oSkin help with changing minimap texture and moving it?
13:06.04Nickenyfikenwtb Buffalo for 2.0
13:06.19NickenyfikenSilain: no
13:06.19Dhragareloadui atm...
13:06.28carlawhat is the difference between oskin and skinner?
13:06.53AzurewrathNickenyfiken: i just moved the standard bufficons with Visor2.. nearly the same and not bugged. I only miss the verbose bufftimers
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13:06.57SilainNickenyfiken, so what's the mod doing it? I saw in photek 5.6b :)
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13:07.22sbuag?
13:07.38NickenyfikenAzurewrath: uuh but i want them growing from down and up
13:07.39Dhragaevl & odt, thank you it was EQCompare that was causing the error
13:07.40odtcarla: oskin is o for old
13:07.48carlaokay so skinner is the same but newer?
13:07.48NickenyfikenSilain: Squeening and SMM
13:07.52odtDhraga: np, had to disable eqcompare myself
13:08.07odtyes, skinner works with 2.0
13:08.09odtmostly
13:08.19benjdris battleground fu working with 2.0?
13:08.37odtseemed to be working fine for me
13:08.38zoktarwtb mirror for worldofwar.net
13:08.49odttimers in tooltip etc
13:09.07Nickenyfikenbenjdr: yes, but there is old libs in the newest zip i think
13:09.22Nickenyfikenbenjdr: i had to upgrade glorylib manually
13:09.47benjdrso i download  with no-ext, will i be ok?
13:10.02sbubahh - i hate that stupid sound when raid-group changing
13:10.05odti removed all glorylib instances from all addons
13:10.09odtand downloaded the standalone
13:10.10hastehmm
13:10.14hastetekSupport broke UnitWatch
13:10.20benjdrok thanks
13:10.25Nickenyfikenjust download glorylib and but int in bgfu\Libs\
13:11.38IcerothSrosh, did you have something for me?
13:12.03odtphyber: topscorefu isn't updating new records
13:12.10odtshould i remove the old wtf?
13:12.48oxmanwhat's UnitWatch ?
13:12.50SroshIceroth, I had, but the problem solved itself - for a while enabling/disabling ToT and Target Info didn't remove the frames, but after disabling them and doing a ui reload the frames stayed invisible
13:13.06hasteoxman: blizzards thingy
13:13.28oxman? :)
13:13.36Icerothah hmm.. could be possible that there's a bug, i did the new hiding code in a bit of a rush..
13:14.25benjdris there any circled mods for bartender 3 yet?
13:14.26Noekoeguys is vchat updated?
13:14.51odtNoekoe: no, but it worked
13:14.57Noekoehm ity didnt with me
13:14.58odtmanually changed the toc
13:15.11Noekoehow you change it manual?
13:15.12odtwell, i had to disable thelowdown and some other stuff, to get it actually working
13:15.36odtopen the .toc file
13:15.40Noekoegot that
13:15.46odtand change to Interface: 20000
13:15.57Noekoedone
13:16.06odtthen it should be all well
13:16.09Noekoethat it lol
13:16.12Noekoethx
13:16.21Noekoethought of that my self2 2 days agao
13:16.27Noekoebut i guessed that wulcnt work :p
13:16.32evlhaste: oTravi works perfectly in 2.0 btw
13:16.35Noekoeyeh
13:16.35odtvchat seems pretty simple
13:16.37Noekoegot it working
13:16.41hasteevl: yeh, I kinda ported it
13:16.49Noekoeotrave pwns :)
13:16.53evlhaste: now that's crazy.
13:16.55phyberodt: no idea.  I've not been able to play yet to test it.
13:17.10Noekoethis svn is so nice
13:17.15odtphyber: EU?
13:17.18Noekoeall my guuildies strugeling to get there ui right
13:17.19phyberyeah
13:17.22DrL|Gedgoldhello, i can't find anymore in ora the option to turn off the MT life frame (i just wanna see his target) , is it definitively gone? should i modify the lua? (sorry if i repeat the question)
13:17.24odtmy realm was down til 2am cet aswell
13:17.26phyber25 hour maintenance win!
13:17.30Noekoei just pressed one button and i was done :D
13:17.34Skyboat`wish this stupid raid lag would go away...
13:17.35odtphyber: where you playing?
13:17.43phyberBloodhoof.
13:17.51odt<aláakir
13:18.03odtthink we're in the same bg group
13:18.23HjalteDoes anyone have a download link for the latest Clique?
13:18.36odtclique isn't ace anymore, someone claimed
13:18.46Sroshand that one claimed true
13:18.49HjalteThat's the problem :) It isnt on wowace.com/files
13:18.51Sroshlook for it on WoWI
13:18.56HjalteWOWI is down :(
13:19.04Sroshor click here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5108
13:19.43DrL|Gedgoldanyone have trouble with tinytip? i got an error on showing buff
13:19.54evlThe Curse of Curse Gaming? :P
13:20.06evlwts uptime of more than 3.4 seconds a time
13:20.55Silainanybody using FuBar_SwStats2?
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13:21.15kebinusanhmm if I want to make all the bigwigs zones LoD, how do I stop a svn up of BigWigs from restoring the zone subdirectories
13:23.14Silainnobody? :(
13:23.18benjdr_hm
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13:24.13Josh_Borkemorning!
13:24.20Laricworkkebinusan you cant
13:24.29kebinusanbleh thats a pain the arse
13:24.44Laricworkkebinusan if you use svn you use svn.. start using the release packages instead
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13:25.03Laricworkand why would you want lod anyhow?
13:25.05vhaarrYou can create a .svnignore.
13:25.14vhaarrAnyway, off to work.
13:25.24kebinusanthanks vhaarr I'll look into that
13:25.30Laricworkvhaarr then he will never get the sub dirs updated
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13:29.35odtsomeone got a link to quickloot or somesuch that can be used before xloot is working again?
13:29.35kebinusanodt, just enable autoloot in the default ui
13:29.36odtdont want to
13:29.48odtill ninja too much then
13:30.07odtthe "item under cursor" would work perfectly
13:31.23benjdr_anyone running bartender3 with cycirled here?
13:31.23kebinusanbenjdr, havent tried, no
13:31.24benjdr_the layout overflows around the back of the round part
13:31.24benjdr_cant figure out if there is a way not to.
13:32.41carlayay, 500 libs later and my UI works
13:32.53evl500? :P
13:32.59carlasmall exaggeration :P
13:33.03evlimpressive... YOUNG SKYWALKER...
13:33.13yacoobbut you're not lua developer yet
13:33.31carlatrue
13:33.44DhragaI do Silian
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13:34.02DhragaHmmm what did acceptance do ?
13:34.41Nickenyfikenmany things
13:34.41Dhragaodt, btw the new version of eqCompare is compatible with tinytip now
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13:35.59HealthDude! Anyone have a pretty recent screenshot of Grid? As the forum/wiki is down.
13:36.34carlahmm.. by not using externals, does the UI take up more mem? my ui uses 30 mb now, before it used 18
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13:36.44evlless afaik
13:36.50evlor the same but it loads faster
13:37.03FiskerIt starts off with more initial memory usage i believe
13:37.05noha^^hi, is a working version of TheLowDown available? :)
13:37.05kebinusanthe same after the first GC I believe
13:37.06evlif you got 3 of the same lib the last two are loaded, version checked and discarded
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13:37.31carlaokay because it uses 12 mb more now ;/
13:37.46koviit does for me too, and i still use embedded
13:37.47Grollmeeh wowace still down :(
13:37.48kovi-_-
13:37.54Silainanyone using grid here that can help me? I can't understand a feature
13:37.55Grolli need forums :D
13:38.03kebinusanSilain, maybe, ask
13:38.05benjdr_grid user here
13:38.06Josh_Borkewhat feature?
13:38.09noha^Silain: what feature?
13:38.14HealthI need a screenshot of Grid!
13:38.23Silainbuff
13:38.27SilainI mean
13:38.32edvthis has probably been asked countless times, but what's up with the zip files missing externals?
13:38.45Silainwith sraidframes I used to see little icons of buff I can cast on players boxes...
13:38.51Silainhow to handle this with grid?
13:39.01HealthXRS?
13:39.13Silainhm
13:39.23SilainI need to see which ppl in the raid have already that buff in a visual way
13:39.41HealthIf you mouse over a buff in XRS you see who is missing
13:39.46Grolledv i dunno but it's majorly annoying
13:40.04NoekoeSilain
13:40.06NoekoeXRS
13:40.17Noekoehttp://ltown.nl/awake/upload/images/ui.jpg
13:40.18carlahmm when i use MountMe, I got an error that Ace2 has been blocked from an action
13:40.23Noekoerigth side of my screen
13:40.33Noekoeyou can see the icons for specific buffs
13:40.35HjalteSilain: You can have Grid display buffs in the corner indicators and if you download the plugin for Grid called Missing Buffs or something like that you can have them shown only ooc
13:40.44Noekoeif you go over it with mouse you can see who needs what buff
13:40.54Noekoeand when you click it you buff that person(s)
13:41.04Icerothwho do i have to bribe to write a good lib to get druid mana in forms?
13:41.05SilainNoekoe opening your screenshot but it's kinda slow :(
13:41.10Noekoeshift click announce to raid
13:41.27Noekoeshould be fast 1gb pipe to outside :)
13:41.47edvany working rogue(ie poison) addons for 2.0 yet?
13:41.50Silainhm
13:41.53Silainnot working :(
13:41.57Silain(the jpg)
13:42.06nuOHEPThe image “http://ltown.nl/awake/upload/images/ui.jpg†cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
13:42.19Noekoelol i cant open it my self  :P
13:42.22Silain:P
13:42.26Noekoeah there it is
13:42.30Noekoeyep working :p
13:42.36carlahmm why doesnt Mount Me work :(
13:42.58Grollcarla i guess it aint updated
13:43.06Grolluse autobar :D
13:43.15SilainNoekoe I still don't understand :DDD menoob
13:43.32Noekoeyyou dont see the Raidstatus screen on right side?
13:43.38Noekoeerr left side
13:44.16xlviinoekoe, what about it?
13:44.16Silainye
13:44.17Silainhow to get it?
13:44.24Noekoewhen you go with your mmouse over the buff icons
13:44.32Noekoeyou see who needs buffs
13:44.38xlviisilain, http://wowace.com/files
13:44.41Noekoewhen you click the icon you buff those persons
13:44.49Dhragaevl, or anyone... the TinyTipExtras dont play well with agUF it seemes like, any easy fix for this ? http://pastey.net/3170
13:44.51Silainxlvii I have the mod, I mean how to get the behavior :)
13:44.58NoekoeXRS is fucking awesome so to say :P
13:45.10Noekoeright click the XRS window
13:45.45evltmp,tmp2 = _G.UnitBuff(unit, i, flag ~= 1) -> _, _, tmp,tmp2 = _G.UnitBuff(unit, i, flag ~= 1)
13:45.49evlshould fix it, on line 142
13:45.56Silainye
13:46.00Silainfound it thx
13:46.03Noekoe:)
13:46.05Silainanyway I'm still having troubles
13:46.07Silaini.e.
13:46.08Grollcan anyone tell me how i import libs to an addon that is missing them?
13:46.11Silainif I cast a renew on someone
13:46.14SilainI can't see it on grid...
13:46.52evlPoltergaist warning
13:46.55HjalteSilain: You have to tell Grid what to show in the corners.
13:47.13DhragaEvl, Thanks, ill try it
13:47.17Silainoh ok
13:47.22Silainis that top left,...
13:47.23Silainetc?
13:47.30Grollyep think so yes
13:48.05Silainok
13:48.07Silainthank you
13:48.14boller_My checkouts keep failing... is this just because of load?
13:48.30HjalteGroll: Go to the addons page on wowace.com/libs and find the latest version where the libs is including (the largest zip file genrally) and then download that zip and copy the libs folder
13:48.39Fisker"HALP"
13:48.49Fiskeri can't use disenchant HALP ME ;E
13:48.54noha^anyone here who knows the url of sairen's website. (autor of cycircled)
13:49.04Dhragaevl, *blush* in what file :P
13:49.13evlThe one the error comes from? :)
13:49.17evlTinyTipIcons.lua
13:49.18GrollHjalte hmm ok well that could work i guess but hmm what if the lib is updated too :P but ohwell i'll do it like that then
13:49.38Dhragahehe thanks :P
13:50.21GrollHjalte u mean wowace.com/files right? ;P
13:50.27Hjalteyea
13:50.36Grollhehe thought so :P
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13:50.46HjalteHaving problems with some libs myself atm, so thats why ;)
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13:51.51HjalteThe latest ag_unitframes is labeled [tbc] - can it be used on the live servers then? if it can, i just dont understand why he would suddenly mark them [tbc]
13:52.06noha^Sairen: *highligh* :)
13:52.49Redsunag_Unitframes doesn't work with group pet right?
13:52.52restoredHjalte: im using r19013 that works well for me.
13:53.15beerkeis there a working Casting Bar somewhere ?
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13:53.28hasteoCastingBar
13:53.30restoredmobhealth doesn't work though.
13:53.31haste!?!??!#!"¤%&
13:53.37hasteBERSERK!?=!!!
13:53.49HealthAre you drunk mr .no?
13:54.06evlhaste: you freaking out and doing the twist live here on the internet?
13:54.11GrollHjalte should be no problem to use it
13:54.21FiskerLOL IM DRUN;K N TEH INTENET
13:55.11HjalteGroll: It's just that i got an error when using r19453 with the libs from r19013
13:56.50hasteHealth: no not really, but I get pissed when people aren't able to check what's been complete for the past months
13:57.53odtphyber: http://ace.pastey.net/3172
13:57.55Healthword
13:58.39odtnevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/3173
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13:59.04odtbeen grinding for 20 minutes, only 2 errors in my bugsack, yay
13:59.31phyberwhat should be used instead of that table.setn thing?
14:00.00phyberhmm, actually, i think i have a simpler copyTable somewhere.
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14:00.39nevcairielodt: its not bartender3 causing this
14:00.46nevcairielsome other addon taints the functions
14:00.52nevcairieland bt3 get blammed
14:01.18Grollbt3 is tha devil!!! o_O
14:01.19Groll:P
14:01.32KaeltenAwayI got the wiki/forums back up but load is building up quickly
14:01.43KaeltenAwayI may have to kill em again
14:02.13Kaeltengood morning guys :)
14:02.17Grollmorning
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14:02.31nevcairielmorning
14:02.34Healthopcache?
14:02.34dafirehmm.. with vbulletin you can use several mysql servers for load balancing :)
14:03.18Kaeltendafire if we had several servers this may not be a problem :)
14:03.18Tekkubwhere's my post about the server on the o.forums?
14:03.22Tekkubit's proving true...
14:03.37HjalteIs it because of the huge load that lots of addons are missing libs on wowace.com/files?
14:03.37dafireor hosting all images and icons on a different server perhaps .9
14:03.48dafireso this one only servers the pages
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14:03.52KaeltenTekkub:  :P
14:04.11odtnevcairiel: can you help me find out which addon?
14:04.16KaeltenHealth: got xcache installed now, seems to do better than eaccelerator
14:04.18Grollnevcairiel was it you who asked me to post what addons wasnt updated yet? :P
14:04.35nevcairielhm nop wasnt me
14:04.51Grollhmm who was it then hmmm bah me and my goldfish memory :D
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14:05.18Healthmemcache?
14:05.34Healthhttp://www.danga.com/memcached/
14:05.45HealthIt roxxor soxxor
14:06.05KaeltenHealth: we don't have the spare ram, and I'm not sure smf could use it anyway
14:06.31NerD|Is there any font addon still working
14:06.31NerD|?
14:06.39dafireKaelten: could we get a file in files which contains the folders and the latest revision number from the addon in the folder ? this could save accesses with updaters :9
14:07.11phyberanyone able to tell me how this function would be fixed to not use table.setn?
14:07.12phyberhttp://ace.pastey.net/3175
14:07.16hastehmm
14:07.26hastewith bartender3: 7fps, without bartender3: 119fps
14:07.27Tekkubah yes, two minutes in the o.forums and I've had my fill
14:07.27GrollNerD| the one that always works :) clearfont
14:07.31hastedo I sence a connection?
14:07.35NerD|Yeah
14:07.35hastesense!
14:07.38Grollhaarm lol :P
14:07.38phyberor can I ust remove the setn because it's sensible and lua doesn't need it now.
14:07.41NerD|forgot to change toc ^^
14:07.43NerD|Thanks anyway :D
14:07.51hasteMikma: care to explain :D ?
14:07.53Tekkubreading people bitching about eyes bleeding from watching 40 unitbars makes my eyes bleed
14:08.25kebinusanheh
14:08.42kebinusanI had someone complain in our naxx raid because grid had too many options
14:08.51HealthHaha.
14:09.11nevcairielI love the voice emotes of the bosses in Sethekk Halls. Go Blizzard =)
14:09.12Grolllol he is prolly just to dumb to understand it :D
14:09.24Worfbefore i start doing everything myself: is there some addon that shows a (blizzard) unitframe fir the focus unit?
14:09.26Kaeltendafire: possibily in the future
14:09.28dafirewe need a dump user switch that hides most options ;)
14:09.31hastenevcairiel: so.. why does Bartender3 kill 110fps?
14:09.34kebinusanMy favorite posts on the forums right now are warlocks complaining about other warlock specs being overpowered
14:09.36Dhragais xloot working ?
14:09.38nevcairielhaste: it does?
14:09.40NerD|OmniCC is broken ? or i just need to change the .toc :p ?
14:09.50HealthTest?
14:09.53Goebworf- ag_uf does
14:09.54Kaeltenhaste: weird it doesn't do that to me
14:09.54hastenevcairiel: I enable it: 7fps, I disable it: 119fps
14:10.02dafireKaelten: thanks ;) and maybe something that removes old folders like mcp and cartographer_instances that are no longer in trunk
14:10.03nevcairielit doesnt for me either
14:10.05nevcairielno problem
14:10.05Goebworf- oh, blizzard frame?  nah
14:10.09hasteit does here for some reason =\
14:10.24WorfGoeb, well.. i should try that unitframes anyway :D
14:10.29hasteit doesn't give any increase however
14:10.29kebinusanThere was a gem of affliction locks complaining about nether protection.. but then I found one about a destruction lock complaining about fighting other locks with nether protection
14:10.36Goebworf- it's nice, you'll like it
14:11.11nevcairielhaste: beta or live?
14:11.13Goebkeb- as long as everyone's complaining, it's balanced :)
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14:11.13Dekunai got cleaved crit yesterday by a lock's felguard for 1.2k
14:11.19hastenevcairiel: live
14:11.31dafireDekuna: i guess he used "The Black Book" ;)
14:11.34Dekunai think he was using the Black Book, but still. 1.2k
14:11.36dafireit's coolk
14:11.37nevcairieli only logged in once on live today
14:11.44nevcairielbut still didnt notice any performance drop
14:11.53kebinusanheh you have 3 minute mages and 5 minute warlocks
14:12.08Dekunaoh, also, i'm getting this error a lot, i think it's from HonorFu
14:12.09DekunaGlory-2.0\Glory-2.0.lua:250: attempt to call global 'GetPVPLastWeekStats' (a nil value)
14:12.29hastenevcairiel: $Revision: 19340 $
14:12.36dafirehave you tried a disembedded glory-2.0 lib ?
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14:13.18Firedancerdoes bt3 have builtin range recolor or do we need a sep addon like with bt2? having issues getting it DLd or I'd look for myself >.>
14:13.26Prophyybuffalo buff mod isn't disabling the blizbuffs..anyone use buffalo instead of Elkbuffbar?
14:13.37Dekunadafire: where would i snag it? i though the libs were gone
14:13.38dr|dranornevcari: i've come with a little issue on bt3... how do i set alternate keybinds?
14:13.38HjalteFiredancer: I believe it has built in range recolour
14:13.52hastenevcairiel: I disabled Bar1, and the FPS drop went away
14:13.59Celtanyone else having a problem where when you right click someone to duel them it gives the warning message about disabling/ignoring an addon? think its AG_UF again
14:14.07hastenevcairiel: per bar I disable the fps goes up
14:14.15andremarand why doesn't bt3 show the keybinds set on the blizzard-bars, while they still work?
14:14.33hastenevcairiel: I _think_ there is a connection tehre :p
14:14.34Firedancercelt: use /duel for now. it's a known prob
14:14.39nevcairielhaste: weird, which class?
14:14.44kebinusancelt, yeah known issue you cant right click dismiss pet with custom unit frames either it seems, something silly blizzard needs to fix
14:14.46hastenevcairiel: Rogue
14:14.49Celtwas just checking if it was known, ty :)
14:15.17dafireDekuna: try http://www.wowace.com/files/GloryLib/GloryLib.zip
14:15.28Dekunadafire: thanks
14:15.48nevcairielhaste: any other addon that does anything remotely with actionbars?
14:16.01hastenevcairiel: it happens when it's loaded alone
14:16.06nevcairielbah
14:16.16hasteI wouldn't have whined if I hadn't done some testing first :)
14:16.22yacoobspeaking of known problems, is there a list of such anywhere?
14:16.28haste'cause I also thought it was something crashing it
14:16.34dafirenevcairiel: i heard something like that from other users in my guild .. but I'm at work I can't test :0
14:16.50Goebhaste- bongos works well, no fps drop that I noticed
14:17.00nevcairielive been leveling with bt3 for a while now on beta, and i didnt notice anything
14:17.07Kaeltenheh our log from yesterday is 65.5MB zipped
14:17.16dafirei also never had problems on beta with it
14:17.34Goebkaet- so how much was transfered yesterday?
14:17.44KaeltenGoeb: I can't download the log to parse it :(
14:17.50Goebheh
14:17.55hastenevcairiel: well, it's not problem really, 'cause I usually just play with all the bars hidden
14:17.59hastenevcairiel: now I just have to disable also
14:18.02phyberKaelten: you know what the replacement for table.setn() is in lua 5.1, or is it not needed now?
14:18.13Goebkae- what kinda connection is it on?  
14:18.17Kaeltenphyber: not needed
14:18.22phyberok.
14:18.35KaeltenGoeb: its in the FortressITX datacenter
14:18.44nevcairielhaste: it is a problem :)
14:18.45Goebwow, they throttling you then?
14:18.48Kaeltenphyber: although its not exactly behaving like it used to
14:18.55hastenevcairiel: yes, that's why I poked you :3
14:19.01dafireit's down again
14:19.10nevcairielprolly need to debug on live
14:19.22Worfcan one recommend a psychiatrist that is specialised on post-patch depressions?
14:19.25Goebkae- or it is all server related?
14:19.29phyberI have it used in one copyTable() function that ckk gave me a while back.
14:19.36evlWorf: LSD works
14:19.39KaeltenGoeb: its just traffic related
14:19.43cohwickmy tinytip is not working :( tinytip.lua:790 attempt to index local 'this' (a nil value)
14:19.47Kaeltenour box is not strong enough to handle this much
14:19.56cohwickanyone seen that before?
14:20.02Firedancercohwick: are you running EQCompare too? if so, update it
14:20.06Kaeltenback up
14:20.08Goebkae- got any mirrors?
14:20.13cohwicki dont...
14:20.15Firedancerhrm
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14:20.24Goebkae- or is that even possible...
14:20.30KaeltenGoeb: just svn mirrors
14:20.33nevcairielKaelten: cant you just limit connections and shut people out when its full?
14:20.35Firedancermy tinytip errors went away when I fixed a prob with EQCompare
14:20.38cohwickim back to af_tooltip now...works fine
14:20.44cohwickbut i want tinytip :)
14:20.59Firedancerbecause eqcompare wasn't playing nice with it
14:21.11hastenevcairiel: I can tell you this tho', I don't get any memory increase
14:21.16cohwickmaybe its rating buster or something...
14:21.17Firedancerbugsack should tell you what mod tinytip was erroring with
14:21.19dafirecohwick: don't use mobinfo2 until it's fixed
14:21.21hasteat least not on FuBar's Performancefu
14:21.40dafireit's a tinytip but with the implemention of mobinfo2
14:21.44nevcairielhaste: can you try tekSupport and see if it reports any bad cpu time?
14:21.45dafirebug
14:21.48Goebkae- I have a system in a major datacenter that we could hammer for a few weeks if you'd like
14:21.54cohwickah ok ill try that
14:21.58cohwicki have mobinfo
14:21.59cohwickthx
14:22.07hastenevcairiel: my tekSupport breaks UnitWatch
14:22.17KaeltenGoeb: unfortunetly until this is over we can't do much
14:22.18nevcairiellet it break, its only for testing :P
14:22.22CIA-1703phyber * r19484 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
14:22.22CIA-17FuBar_TopScoreFu:
14:22.22CIA-17- Comment out the table.setn(). Shouldn't be needed now.
14:22.35Goebkae- yeah, just getting everything off would be un-fun...
14:22.45cohwickany replacement for mobinfo2?
14:22.49KaeltenGoeb: also there is the proxy problem
14:22.54cohwickmobhealth would be good enough for me
14:23.01Goebkae- proxy?
14:23.06dafirecohwick: I'll put in a small fix that prevents the error
14:23.07Kaeltensince this server is the one that routes everything it'd make the mirrors slow
14:23.09andremarI also get a slight fps-increase by disabling bt3 bars
14:23.20andremargoing from about 19 to about 24 disabling 5 bars
14:23.23Kaeltenphyber: is the array its working with sequentially numerically indexed?
14:23.23Goebkae- ah...
14:23.53cohwicka nice dafire
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14:24.20cohwickwhere are you gonna update it?
14:24.40thaliejust watch for the commit
14:24.54odt101 errors in av
14:25.01phyberKaelten: I have zero idea. :)
14:25.07nevcairielTekkub: fix tekSupport so that haste can debug for me :D
14:25.18phyberI'm sure someone who PvPs with TopScoreFu will let me know if it breaks though ;)
14:25.18Tekkubyea in a few
14:25.20HjalteIs the author of ItemBonusesFu online?
14:25.22Kaeltenphyber: if it doesn't getn and the new # operator won't read the size properly
14:25.39odtmost look like these - http://ace.pastey.net/3176
14:26.29odtanyone know what could be the cause, i know it's not warmup
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14:27.50CIA-1703dafire * r19485 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: fix (or better hack) to not bug with mobinfo2 (small nil check)
14:28.10phyberKaelten: it's just a table like, t.level = 60, t.class = "Warlock", t.amount = 1760;  it seems.
14:28.16Grollerm is cartogrpaher supposed to be 2+megs? :P
14:28.28Grollok it was
14:28.33phyberand then I'm copying that 't' table into another table.
14:28.34dafireGroll: it contains maps (images) of instances
14:28.42kebinusanmost of it is the static mapinfo for inst.. what dafire said
14:28.46Goebit was 500k yesterday ;)
14:28.53thalieit was missing libraries yesterday likely
14:29.07Goeboh, I use the no-ext anyhow
14:29.18Grollyep i noticed :D
14:29.19Goebthat makes sense ;)
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14:29.41Goebso externals are all better now?
14:30.17restorednevcairiel: i get the same drop i fps with bt3 as well.
14:30.27NerD|Is this possible to hide the KeyBindins in BarTenDer3?
14:30.28Goebbtw, I highly recommend the no-ext / standalone arrangement... it's so totally worth whatever hastle it might be
14:30.29restoredfrom ~55 -> 20
14:31.46HjalteWhen using Cycircled with Bartender3 the black square behind the buttons are still there. It doesnt look good :(
14:31.47kebinusanI wish I knew where this shoutcast thing has been the past two years
14:31.52nevcairielrestored: class?
14:32.01restoredpriest.. shadowform atm.
14:32.03odtHjalte: use the "zoomed" style on the bars
14:32.11odtnot dreamlayout
14:32.26hastenevcairiel: okey, if you disable the bar - it doesn't change in cobmat :(
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14:33.11kebinusanI got a ton of errors with the latest trinity zip yesterday
14:33.32cohwickdafire: works fine now, thx :)
14:33.34nevcairielHjalte: turn of dreamlayout .. /bt3 bar1 style default
14:33.42nevcairielHjalte: for all bars you need
14:34.08thaliehey nev - just to offset everyone complaining
14:34.10thaliei love bt3
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14:34.37IcerothFrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:816: table index is nil, FrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:816: in function `SecureRaidGroupHeader_Update', <string>:"GridLayoutHeader1:OnShow":2: in function <[string "GridLayoutHeader1:OnShow"]:1>
14:34.58Hjaltenevcairiel: Default and zoomed layouts still has a square border.
14:35.07thaliereloadui
14:35.27Hjalteworks :) thanks
14:35.48phybernevcairiel: just to offset that compliment, I might have a screenshot of retarded bag/micro bar default placement for you later ;)
14:35.59nevcairieli know, its overlapping
14:36.14phyberyeah, and it's not right at the bottom of the screen either.
14:36.19NerD|Any Bartender3_Circled exist :p ?
14:36.23phyberthere is a bag bar sized gap under the bar ;)
14:36.26thaliecyCircled, nerd
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14:36.35NerD|Ok i'll try thanks :-)
14:36.36phyberlike,t eh bag bag should be there, but it moved above the microbar for some reason :)
14:36.39Fiskeranyone know if the modded ct_raidtracker has been updated?
14:36.49nevcairieli should really create a simple bug tracker
14:36.55nevcairielthat google thing i setup is weird
14:37.18FiskerQQ
14:37.26odtthe group leader status icon doesn't go away when i leave the raid...
14:37.34carlahaste: when i fort my self i get an oRA2 error
14:37.41carlai mean when I PW: Shield
14:37.42thaliehaste didn't write oRA2
14:37.42odtaguf
14:37.44hastecarla: [Ammo] is that way
14:37.58hastewhat's the LARGE dildo paladins pop all the time?
14:38.03DhragaFubar-KTMFu gives the following error : http://pastey.net/3177  : The 44 line long code can be seen here : http://pastey.net/3178
14:38.07carlaokay, thought you made oRA2
14:38.24carla[Ammo]: anny ideas?
14:38.38Icerothanyone got the texture "bleeding" from the corners with cyCircled and bt3?
14:38.55NerD|thalie, where i can dwl it i can't find it on http://www.wowace.com/files/ :<
14:39.13nevcairielhaste: their wings?
14:39.19DhragaAnyone that please can take a peek at the Fubar-KTM code above ?
14:40.00thalieit's there, nerd - http://www.wowace.com/files/cyCircled/
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14:40.09thaliesmall case at the bottom
14:40.12evlpeople need to learn to use Ctrl+F
14:40.12odthmm, how does honorfu decide which rank icon to display
14:40.14Qshadowpi found a bug in bartender3 :(
14:40.16evland google
14:40.19thalieevl: no shit
14:40.19phyberDhraga: use L["labelName"]
14:40.22zoktarIceroth just make all the settings u want , then relog
14:40.24odti have legionnaire as highest ever title, but it shows blood guard
14:40.27Dhragaphyber, thank you =)
14:40.28zoktarIceroth should look fine then
14:40.28Qshadowpbar 3, if i change it from 12 buttons to 11 buttons. it dissapears.
14:40.44hastenevcairiel: it's a large dildo above their char
14:40.46Qshadowpand if i set it to 12 buttons, enable and disable it it says that its showing 11 buttons but it shows 12 anyways.
14:40.47phyberdhasame where you have the tableHint too
14:40.50phyberfurther down.
14:40.53phyberDhraga:
14:40.57Icerothzoktar, yeah, just did that, still kinda weird
14:41.00thaliehaste: screenshots or it never happened
14:41.04Qshadowpand the 12'th one does strange things like if you tell it to go into 2 rows, the 12th button will be on the 3rd row
14:41.05nevcairielhaste: ah. thats the new animation for their crusader seal i think
14:41.15hastelol
14:41.17zoktarIceroth yeah one more thing , disable dreamlayout
14:41.26zoktarIceroth select style to default on all the bars
14:43.30zoktarwtb profile for cycircled ;P
14:43.43cohwickis there a reason for the latest oRA2 not allowing to chage the growth direction of mt-frames anymore?
14:44.06DhragaFubar-outfitter gives this error: http://pastey.net/3179 : the code can be seen at : http://pastey.net/3180 : anyone that can help ?
14:44.42boller_Anybody know if Buffalo is gonna be updated?
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14:45.30zoktaranyone know a non overloaded "mirrorsite" for most used addons?, atlas atlasloot enhanced etc?
14:45.49thalieask on wowi-lounge, wowace works fine now
14:45.59NerD|cyCircled Glossy kicks ass :o
14:46.18NerD|But is it possible to hide the keybindings on the button :( ?
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14:46.34Skyboatfixed OneBank yay
14:46.37Icerothgah, now what, some addon is pissing memory reeeaally fast now.. what did i do :'(
14:46.47Amadeowow, WoWI is still dead? that's nuts
14:46.48Skyboatnearly had a heartattack when my enchanting bag was empty
14:47.24lhunathskyboat: r18822?
14:47.29Iceroth10kb/s in bg doing nothing :s
14:47.32AmadeoIceroth: I think a lot of us are having that problem
14:47.36odtneed help with solving errors of this type - http://ace.pastey.net/3176 - i get hundreds of those in av
14:47.36Skyboatyes
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14:47.44lhunathlovely :)
14:48.04Skyboatjust needed some very easy code changes
14:48.23Beheritmh anyone knows if this is a bug
14:48.47Dhragahmmm I changed the acehook2.0 to 2.1 in fubar outfitter, and it starts up now and almost works
14:48.57Beheritsometimes i cant change my target with ag_uf or grid. if i click someone in the raid views nothing happens. so no target change
14:48.59lhunathI've had a massive load of updates for ace plugins using winaceupdater, can i assume most will work for wow 2 or is this mostly work in progress?
14:49.40DhragaFuBar-outfitter now gives the http://pastey.net/3181 error
14:49.44phyberlhunath: everything you get with winaceupdater is a work in progress.
14:50.06Dhragafubaroutfitter code at : http://pastey.net/3180 anyone that can help ?
14:50.07phyberlhunath: expect it to kill your first born child before sitting down and using the kids bones to stir it's tea.
14:50.52DhragaIs that fubar-outfitter error a tabletlib error ?
14:50.57thalielhunath: run with it, if things cause problems then disable them
14:51.01lhunathgranted. they're snapshots of the svn created upon each commit, I take it
14:51.17phyberyup.
14:51.38Dhragaphyber, so I should update tabletlib ?
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14:51.51thaliei think he was talking to lhunath
14:51.53Dhragaah nah, nm saw that you didnt answer me
14:51.54lhunathnot to be figgity or anything, but a stable-status might be a nice thing to implement some day :)
14:51.56DhragaYes lol
14:52.08Kaeltenhad to kill php again :(
14:52.18thalieif i were you dhraga i would live with what is there now and stop pestering people to help you fix mods purely for your own use
14:52.18phyber'stable-status' is the mods you find on the addon sites.
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14:52.42DhragaI'd love to upload the working ones if I know how =)
14:52.55lhunathphyber: which are a pain in the backside to keep up to date, especially with their near-impossible to parse versioning.
14:53.04lhunathno way of automating that
14:53.54lhunathphyber: but I must congratulate you on your talent for visual expression.
14:54.07Dhragagotta drive home, laters all and thank you verry much all for the help
14:54.14phyberthe My Favourites section on WoWI, has a nice version column ;)
14:54.31thalieit'd be easy to parse the versioning - just parse the toc for the ## Interface:
14:54.41Tril_what unit frames are there that work besides aguf ?
14:54.45thaliebut hell, im not doing it
14:54.50phyberlhunath: thanks.  I was going to go with using the kids head for a foot stool too.  got to relax more while having that tea, you know?
14:55.01thalietril_ blizz frames
14:55.03dafireTril_: nurfed unitframes or perl unitframes
14:55.10Tril_i mean ace ones
14:55.12thalienone
14:55.13phyber;)
14:55.28Tril_ah ok
14:55.34thaliewelcome to aguf
14:55.40Tril_been using it
14:55.42lhunathphyber: especially while having tea, it's one of those moments in a day one wants to be relaxed and undisturbed with other matters at hand
14:55.46dafirethere will be hastes oUF 2/3 soon :)
14:55.49Tril_just thought there might be something diff
14:56.00hastesoon, as in most likely today
14:56.03thaliecan i tell them to die in a fire haste
14:56.03hasteoUF2.5!
14:56.05dafireyay
14:56.06thalie;(
14:56.07thalieehehhe
14:56.16haste:D:D:D
14:56.30Tril_there a ss of oUF i can see on like worldofwar or anything?
14:56.31dafirei can test it for you on english and german wow ;)
14:56.56hasteTril_: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/ui/24112006.png
14:57.34thalieis that your original oskin in that SS, haste
14:57.39Tril_nice
14:57.45hastethalie: partly
14:58.21Tril_approx. eta haste?
14:58.30thalie<haste> soon, as in most likely today
14:58.34hasteTril_: 1200 lines
14:58.38Tril_hehe
14:59.00dafireyou can do that fast with c&p ;)
14:59.13hastehaha
14:59.19hastedafire: won't work then tho' :p
14:59.35thaliethe more you pester him here the less time he has to work on it ;)
14:59.56thalieoh god, that would be hell
15:00.00thalie"my addon is broken qq"
15:00.06boller_Anybody know anything on Buffalo?
15:00.11thalieyeah, the author
15:00.12sbuKaelten: hi?
15:00.33boller_thalie, and who is that?
15:00.37thalienimbal
15:00.43sbuKaelten: WTB 1 more OneBank bag space :o
15:01.13Kaeltensbu: hrm?
15:01.21kebinusanwe got a 7th bank bag
15:01.24Kaeltenoh
15:01.25kebinusanbut it doesnt show up in onebak
15:01.28KaeltenI didn't notice
15:01.29Kaelten:(
15:01.35KaeltenI'll fix it soon
15:01.36kebinusanonly cost 25g
15:02.54Icerothgogo Kaelten, i'm waiting :)
15:03.18DrL|Gedgoldhello, i can't find anymore in ora the option to turn off the MT life frame (i just wanna see his target) , is it definitively gone? should i modify the lua? (sorry if i repeat the question)
15:03.36*** join/#wowace dogg (i=dogg@dusk.theflux.no)
15:03.41kebinusanyeah, it looks like the option to disable MT Target target is missing
15:03.47kebinusanI had a guildmate ask about it last night
15:03.52cohwickit is missing
15:04.00cohwickthere is more missing ;)
15:04.09cohwicklike the growth direction of the frames
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15:04.33KaeltenIceroth: for you I'm going to wait an extra week :)
15:04.37DrL|Gedgoldok, is there any way to modify the frame editing the lua? :D
15:04.57thalieyou mean other than learning lua yourself
15:04.59cohwicki tried to use my old savedvariables file...didnt help
15:05.09cohwickso i guess the option is completely gone
15:05.10Tornhoofanyone happen to know how to disable the new secureactionbuttons temporarily to enable dragging?, my code always casts instead of dragging buttons around
15:05.12Iceroth:'(
15:05.18Kaeltenj/k
15:05.18Kaelten:)
15:06.01sbuand wtb ag :/
15:06.44Icerothuh oh, was a mistake to turn on onUpdate watcher in tekSupport :s
15:07.04Amadeoyeah...I did that too
15:07.11AmadeoBugSack scrolls indefinately
15:07.20Icerothaye
15:07.34Icerothbut i really really want to catch the sucker that's eating my memory
15:08.12sbumahhh
15:08.21sbunobody knows how to disable aguf party frames in raid? :/
15:08.27sbuoption doesnt work anymore
15:08.32sbu(disable = hide)
15:09.02NickenyfikenCurrent memory: 20.6 Initial memory: 31.2
15:09.03Nickenyfikenhehe
15:09.04Nickenyfikennice
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15:09.12xlviican anyone send me cyart?
15:09.24DrDreIPB2.2 is nice :o
15:09.28kebinusankael, a bug and a feature request, unchecking a soul bag doesnt hide my Core Felcloth Bag, and would it be possible to add a status line at the bottom of onebag that showed shard/ammo count/avail if the bag is hidden
15:09.31grzesieqso, mods tagged with [TBC] on the files page are for TBC only or is this tag a leftover?
15:09.34hasteDrDre: the forum?
15:09.37thalieleftover
15:09.40thalieuse the latest version
15:09.54DrDreyea
15:09.58hastethen it's not nice
15:09.59DrDrethey jus reelased 2.2
15:10.02hasteit's a monster in size
15:10.06DrDreand?
15:10.10DrDreits the best in market
15:10.17hasteno, that's PunBB
15:10.19DrDreits only 3mb lol
15:10.22nevcairielhaste: can you open the Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua and in the OnUpdate func comment the call to sefl:UpdateIcon() and see if that helps? should be around line 326 or so
15:10.24hastethe rest can go die in a fire
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15:10.30DrDrewtf is a punbb
15:10.31thaliehahahaha
15:10.40DrDreyou jus dont wanna pay for it :P
15:11.14hasteDrDre: I HAVE paid for IPB, so I know
15:11.30hasteI dumped it three weeks later for PunBB
15:11.35hasteso that was 1200NOK out the window
15:11.47hastethat was back when 2.0 was released
15:12.12DrDre2.0 is nothing like 2.1/2.2
15:12.23hastenevcairiel: it still drops
15:13.12hasteDrDre: it's what, one year since?
15:13.49dafirei own a vb license and i like it ;)
15:14.15dafirethe plugin system especially .. i have done nice plugins for my guild
15:14.18CIA-1703schelli * r19487 10FuBar_TradeCDFu/ (3 files): FuBar_TradeCDFu : updated to patch 2.0
15:14.22nevcairieli own an vb as well
15:14.46[Cu]WerikI like punbb:P
15:14.46Fiskera?
15:14.46hastenevcairiel: you're on the right track at least, if I kill the OnUpdate funciton, the lag goes away :)
15:15.12Fiskervb is pretty nice
15:15.22Tril_haste are you integrating the enemy cast bar into your uf?
15:15.24hastenevcairiel: you might want to throttle it a little
15:15.28Tril_like the blizz default one
15:15.31hasteTril_: not the unit frame
15:15.34nevcairielits throttled to 0.1s
15:15.40nevcairielmight increase that
15:15.54xlviidoes anyone know where i can get in contact with sairen?
15:16.00grzesieqcould someone throw me the link to haste's forum? :)
15:16.01Kaeltenwe're running smf atm
15:16.05Sairenxlvii: I'm here
15:16.10hastegrzesieq: http://fuxsake.net
15:16.13grzesieqty
15:16.29nevcairielif i would know where in the OnUpdate it creates so much lag
15:16.36Grolloh Sairen :D ur hiding here without me knowing :P u need to do some updates and get ur webpage up and running ;P
15:16.49hastenevcairiel: trying to figure that out myself
15:16.51SairenGroll: ^^ the whole guild server is down atm
15:16.59Grolloh that sucks heh
15:17.03hastenevcairiel: I enabled all bars now, and my fps hits 3!
15:17.03SairenGroll: so my own ui site too
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15:17.25Grolloke but i guess u got updates for ur stuff? like cyart etc :D
15:17.31aE|neXterchronometer author here? ore someone who could add some new spell timer?
15:17.57Eternally777Is any event fired when a spell cooldown ends?
15:18.00SairenGroll: mh in cyart you only need to change the interface version in the .toc file
15:18.03wallenhaste: do you play on Grim Batol ?
15:18.11Grolloh okies :D
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15:18.37hastewallen: yes
15:19.00wallenI was in murloc order back to Burning Blade :s
15:19.08wallenI recalled Valerius from the screenshot
15:19.10Fisker[Cu]Werik
15:19.23Fiskergiev access to your 1337 internal curse-site
15:19.39[Cu]WerikYou think we have an internal site?
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15:21.05nevcairielhaste: the OnUpdate is a aceevent schedule right now .. maybe it lags less when i do a real onupdate with my own throttling
15:21.06Tril_ok what ace enemy cast bars and summon addons are there?
15:21.17Nickenyfikenlol the BG serverns is overloaded
15:21.28hastenevcairiel: worth a try I would guess
15:22.36nevcairieltoo bad that i cannot reproduce the lag :/
15:23.33dafirethe world is changing... they don't want you to delete wdb folder anymore... guess all gm's have to update their macros
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15:23.45Beheritgrml everytime i goto "interface options"
15:23.56Beheritmy chatwindows (new created) go away
15:23.57Beherit:X
15:24.13Skyboatheh, I don't even have a WDB folder now
15:24.22Beheritits in data now
15:24.26dafireBeherit: try to disable the auto join lfg channel
15:24.47Skyboatlooked there too but nothing new
15:24.51Beheritk works dafire
15:24.53Beheritthx
15:25.10Beheritin europe BGS are so laggy
15:25.16Beheritgot damn servers
15:25.35BeheritAH
15:25.37hasteBeherit: no problem here
15:25.43Beheritnow i got the other bug again
15:25.55Beheriti cant target anyone with my unitframes (ag, grid)
15:26.04Beheriti only can /rl then it works again
15:26.15Beheritthat is so annoying
15:26.24Beheritand other ppl got that prob too
15:27.08JagobahI have a few popular mods on ftp://67.19.139.94/ if the wowace servers are too slow
15:27.10Jagobahwhat's a good alternative to NeedyList?
15:27.28jjungnickelcorkfu, xrs
15:28.05jjungnickel(for the buff portion of needylist)
15:28.33cohwickah one thing...if i try to duel someone with ag_uf (rightclick on target - duel) i get an error, blocked by blizzard
15:28.42Jagobahsame here with perl
15:28.46Goebthat's a blizzard bug
15:28.54cohwicknice
15:28.59Goebuse /duel
15:29.00cohwickoh well, /duel will work ;)
15:29.01cohwickyeah
15:29.03cohwicki do
15:29.51Braennandoes anyone know if theres a working version of superinspect?
15:29.53GoebI figure another week or two of addon mayhem and things will settle down a little and we can really figure out what's going on
15:29.55Mikmahaste: care to explain, what? :D
15:30.02Mikmahaste: that how u suxx lololoo?
15:30.05phyberhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=53986444&sid=1
15:30.07hasteMikma: Bartender3 gives me 2fps:D
15:30.10phyberlast post in that thread is a winner.
15:30.13Mikmahaste: haha! owned.
15:30.14odtBarbanusHome: yes, there is
15:30.14Jagobahthere's a working version on my ftp but it will cause some errors in BGs
15:30.14nevcairielhaste: update from svn and try
15:30.16hasteMikma: but when I disable bars, it goes back to 10
15:30.19nevcairielgoing to grab some food
15:30.20haste100*
15:30.20phyber(Re: BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows)
15:30.21odtBraennan: uyes, there is
15:30.30odtbut i got some errors in bg with it though
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15:30.45Braennanodt: thx for the info
15:30.47hastenevcairiel: doing it
15:30.55odtBraennan: i got mine from curse
15:31.25dafiredoes anyone know it there is a updated version of the modded ct_raidtracker for eqdkp usage ? ;)
15:31.31Jagobahon my ftp as well :)
15:31.45Mikmahaste: i didn't code it ;) nevcairiel did
15:31.53Tril_is perfect raid frames working or are they working on updating that?
15:31.57thalieexcuses excuses, mik
15:32.10Braennandafire: yeah, version 1.33 i believe
15:32.29dafireis it anywhere where i can get it ? :)
15:32.37hastenevcairiel: only drops a little now
15:32.39dafireah
15:32.41dafirenm
15:32.47hastenevcairiel: ~10 fps to be exact
15:32.53Amadeobleh
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15:33.03Amadeoall my addons work, but the game lags so bad now that it's not playable
15:33.20hasteAmadeo: bartender3?
15:33.24Amadeonope
15:33.30haste:D
15:33.32HjalteIn ItemBonusesFu i have 760 +healing, but in the old itembonusesfu and the current Blizzard character tab i see 896 +healing - How come?
15:33.34TheKarnanyone know why my chatframes keep disappearing?
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15:33.38TheKarnits really fucking annoying
15:33.49AmadeoI wish I could pick out the addon in question that easy :)
15:33.51MikkZzzbecause .. um.... blizz needs to l2code? =P
15:33.56thalielol
15:34.16nevcairielhaste: so its definately better now ?
15:34.32hastenevcairiel: well, from 2 fps til 83
15:34.32Skyboatanyone made progress on the lag problems in a raidgroup?
15:34.38nevcairielthats good
15:34.39nevcairielhehe
15:34.47nevcairieli guess i can throttle the onupdate even more
15:34.47hastethat's what you get for using AceEvent!
15:34.58hasteit didn't show any increase tho', that's almsot magic :D
15:35.12abbateu auth servers down
15:35.15Mikkorly
15:35.18hasteya ryl
15:35.23hastes/yl/ly/
15:35.36nevcairielit does update cooldown and outofrange indicators
15:35.48nevcairielguess its enough once every 0.5 or so
15:36.04hastenevcairiel: so... even when hidden, it updates?
15:36.09haste'cause all my bars are hidden :D
15:36.13abbatdamd
15:36.18hasteit shouldn't in other wrods
15:36.24Tril_ok when is the site coming back up so I can know what all these mods do?
15:36.24abbati replace all not working addons
15:36.26Tril_:)
15:36.26nevcairielwhen disabled, it doesnt
15:36.29nevcairielwhen hidden .. hrm
15:36.30abbatnow my ui is changed ;(
15:36.49dafiredon't disturb haste.. he has to code ;)
15:36.57nevcairielok now it doesnt when hidden either
15:37.05hastedafire: I haven't gotten a single thing done 'cause of the bartender lag :D
15:37.13abbatanother action basrs (trinity looks like my old bar but config is toooo sad), another player frames ;(
15:37.14hasteI had to make a macro to reload my ui
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15:37.25JuhoLeiIs Perfectraid updated?
15:37.39Tril_doesnt appear to be
15:37.58hastenevcairiel: tell me when you've committed :3
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15:38.23cohwicktrinity was causing bugs with grid and spellbinder for me...
15:38.29cohwickand prolly some more
15:38.40Mikmawhat's wrong with servers
15:38.42cohwickeverything is much smoother now without it ;)
15:38.45nevcairielcommit is uploading ...
15:38.58RyakGetting Jostle-2.0 error with fubar, any solutions for that?  I'm sure it has been asked a lot, I'm sorry
15:39.01nevcairielok
15:39.04nevcairielhaste: commited
15:39.13MikmaRyak: get externals / libraries
15:39.16cohwicklibs missing ryak
15:39.17hastenevcairiel: doing a checkout!
15:39.23hastereloading!
15:39.28abbatbut squeenix much better squareminimap
15:39.30dafireRyak: get jostlelib from wowace.com/files
15:39.38hastewee, 109 fps
15:39.40CIA-1703nevcairiel * r19489 10Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: update even less and not while hidden
15:39.44Ryakthanks gents/ladies
15:39.49nevcairieloh CIA-17 works
15:39.52abbatAnd i completly confused with grid as decurse ;)
15:39.54dafirehaste: and now back to work :P
15:39.55Mikkthere's no ladies here
15:40.01Mikkpossibly a few females
15:40.06Ryakhaha
15:40.06Greywindlol
15:40.09hastedafire: shrugs, comments like that just makes me sad
15:40.16nevcairiellol
15:40.18Ryakprobably no gents either :P
15:40.21dafirefemale in hearth at least ;9
15:40.32boller_Ok, last patch i could right click on a name and click "target".  Though I can't now.  Was that a mod, or has it gone?
15:40.33boller_:P
15:40.42CairennMikk: lol
15:41.06pastamancerif anyone is still having problems with grid's position resetting when you try to drag it, the problem appears to be caused by trinitybars
15:41.22Dekunapastamancer: grid rules. <3
15:41.25CairennMikk: to use a line I happen to love ... "The best part of being a woman is knowing when not to be a lady" ...
15:41.27TheKarnahh! disable Auto-join GuildRecruitment channel stops chat windows from disappearing
15:41.29TheKarnftw
15:41.56dafireTheKarn: yes.. really old bug (introduced with 1.12 i think)
15:42.10abbatpastamancer, yep. I have this problem
15:42.16TheKarndafire i know but i've only just found out how to stop it
15:42.22pastamancerabbat: are you using trinity?
15:42.29cohwickyes its definatelly trinity pasta
15:42.31[Ammo]afternoon
15:42.33abbattoday i setup it
15:42.35nevcairielhey ammo
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15:42.50cohwickeverything works fine now, as i switched over to bartender
15:43.05abbati try bt3
15:43.21abbatbut buttons won't be looks like on my old ui ;(
15:43.45nevcairielwhich look do you want?
15:44.02abbatw8, i show
15:44.35abbathttp://cow.efnet.org/~abbat/WoWScrnShot_112506_154314.jpg
15:44.37abbatthis one
15:44.53abbatwith borders and icons like on screenshot
15:44.57nevcairielisnt that default?
15:45.16nevcairielUI Default anyway
15:45.18abbatno, it was dab. but i don't change any textures
15:45.24nevcairielhrm
15:45.31leech2kso what is the best way to enable click casting with grid? Clique?
15:45.51MikmaAAAARGHT abbat + his discort ui
15:45.54nevcairielabbat: what if you just set Bartender3 to the "default" style?
15:46.04[Ammo]leech2k: clique yeah
15:46.05abbatbt3 have looks like this, but if i use scaling my buttons looks ugly for me ;(
15:46.05[Ammo]it pwns
15:46.13leech2k[Ammo]: thx
15:46.30abbatMikma, yep. I miss my discord mods ;)
15:47.26Mikmaabbat: /leave #wowace /join #discordfanbois
15:47.29yacoobahahaha :D
15:47.36yacoobjust read http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=1068
15:47.37cohwick:D
15:47.39Icerothc stack overflow from cartographer :|
15:47.41[Ammo]Mikma, seems we have found a target for common hatred
15:47.46abbatand my aguf now didn't show buff/debuff durations under icons
15:47.51yacoobthis means... more people coming to ace!
15:48.03yacoobMikma, [Ammo], please, don't pick on folks :D
15:49.21Tekkubare people coming to ace, or just so strung out for addons that they'll use any they can find that are updated and downloadable?
15:49.33nevcairielhehe
15:49.38jjungnickelis there any ace'd addon that displays questlevels next to the quests (and allows linking of the quest-names including the level)
15:49.42Mikma[Ammo]: goodie :)
15:49.44nevcairielwowace.com/files is the only place which wasnt down for the last day
15:49.45abbatand you say all what you want, but no one action bars have functionality like dab ;(
15:50.00yacoobTekkub, I think there will be more and more whining. But perhaps some will move to look for alternatives
15:50.05abbatTekkub, sure
15:50.05yacoobabbat, flexbar does have it.
15:50.24yacoobabbat, unfortunatelly, it doesn't have as much shiny controls as DAB has
15:50.32yacoobabbat, and believe me, I'm speaking from experience.
15:50.37Tekkubsee I see a lot of "is there an ace addon that..." questions as of late... might be a side effect of the lack of wiki/forums
15:50.46Tekkubor might be a flood of addon crack whores
15:50.55[Ammo]I think the latter
15:51.00Tekkub^^
15:51.08[Ammo]look at the users on the channel 193
15:51.10nevcairielKaelten: remember EU got patched yesterday and Asia today, dont be sad on the static pages :)
15:51.12[Ammo]198 actually
15:51.20cohwickgive it a week or 2 and everything will go back to normal
15:51.38Tekkubironic that or bearly-functional server with it's broken zip script is bringing in new people
15:51.47nevcairiellol
15:51.52[Ammo]most don't speak, they just lurk for info
15:51.55TekkubTAKE THAT WOWI!
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15:52.01[Ammo]typical addon crack whore behaviour
15:52.01abbatHeh, but Galencia make tutorial, how to update addons
15:52.11abbatNo one want to read it before asking?
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15:52.16wowiTekkub, nooo, have mercy!
15:52.33[Ammo]I dumped a zip of my addons on our guild forums
15:52.37[Ammo]they flocked like rabid dogs on it
15:52.45Iceroth:p
15:52.58Icerothi try to avoid that.. after that they'd just jump on me
15:53.06Icerothi get already enough whispers regarding addons :s
15:53.08[Ammo]I tell them: install it wholy, or not use it
15:53.12jjungnickelyes, it is the lack of forums/wiki which i would have researched upfront were they up.
15:53.13[Ammo]and I can be quite rude
15:53.20CIA-1703schelli 07Schelli * r19490 10IceHUD/ (11 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD : implemented 2.0 changes, not fully funtional, but mostly
15:53.28Mikmahehe
15:53.33MikmaIceHUD continued!
15:53.46IcerothO.o
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15:54.10Icerothi hope that went to brances :s
15:54.18cohwicki have been switching over to ace'ed mods since a few weeks now and with the addon-crackdown with 2.0 i see it was a good ide
15:54.36jjungnickeltrue.
15:54.42[Ammo]the main advantage of the ace addons is that most are well coded
15:54.45[Ammo]and modular
15:54.48HjalteIsn't Icehud updated for 2.0 already? oO
15:54.50cohwickyeah
15:54.52[Ammo]thus were very easy to convert to 2.0
15:55.06[Ammo]wheras for instance our good friend Lozareth will be eating his beard atm
15:55.14Amadeoin a BG, I'm practically constantly GCing now
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15:55.21Melisandrehi
15:55.26nevcairieldidnt he post that he didnt have time at all, and nothing was started for 2.0 on his part?
15:55.26Tril_is there a summon addon for Ace? Like a RaidSummon or anything?
15:55.32Prophydid anyone get really low FPS last night when raiding?  normal (outside of raid) was about 30fps while in raid it was 8-12fps??
15:55.33Melisandresorry if i ask... but is there any problem with ocb?
15:55.43jjungnickelyes. i see all the whining on guild/raid chats that shows me how non-ace users seem to experience the patch :)
15:55.44Tril_ocb was working for me yesterday
15:55.46Tril_the new one
15:55.57nevcairielyea haste fixed all oCB errors
15:56.00Melisandrethe one posted in wowace.net?
15:56.00cohwicki wish there would be something like a library for all addons to use...i had some troubles with missing libs i had to find and put into the right place etc
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15:56.12[Ammo]prophy: that question is a silly one. first off, what addon did you use that might cause it
15:56.20[Ammo]prophy: and no, I didn't have that problem in a raid
15:56.22Prophyall my mods are Ace..
15:56.23[Ammo]I had my normal FPS
15:56.27[Ammo]that says nothing.
15:56.29Prophymust be ora2 ?
15:56.32cohwickalso i dont see why there has to be the same files over and over in every addon/lib dir
15:56.40[Ammo]prophy: what makes you think it is oRA2
15:56.40Melisandrelet me dl ocb then :)
15:56.41Prophyora2 onyl one in raid.
15:56.41Dekuna.......
15:56.42nevcairielammo have fun :D
15:56.48Dekunacohwick: uhhh
15:57.01[Ammo]oRA2 is not some kind of CTRA abomination
15:57.03TheKarnanyone know the status of the arena skirmishes?
15:57.10nevcairielstill down afaik
15:57.17abbathttp://cow.efnet.org/~abbat/WoWScrnShot_120706_185503.jpg
15:57.23Mikkyay, eu auth servers up
15:57.24abbatnow my ui look like ;)
15:57.34cohwickwell give me something to read about dekuna, i just want to understand why :)
15:57.36IcerothHjalte, yea, icehud works just fine in 2.0
15:57.39Melisandreora + sraid is cool
15:57.47[Ammo]prophy: more clearly, oRA2 has no OnUpdate stuff,it only responds to the outside
15:57.52[Ammo]it should have no impact on your FPS
15:58.07[Ammo]the only update thing it has runs every 0.3 seconds
15:58.11FtH|eagleIceroth: I have a problem with the current icehud version, the targetoftarget module is not working correct
15:58.14[Ammo]which is for the MT and PT frames
15:58.16abbatbtw
15:58.19nevcairielOnUpdate stops running when a frame is hidden?
15:58.23abbat21mb instead 37mb
15:58.33Icerothcorrect?
15:58.43[Ammo]nevcairiel it should
15:58.47Tekkubsmall reminder, working on my update, you can find em here: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/tekkub-wow
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15:58.51FtH|eagleI can't deactivate it and it produces errors
15:59.00Tekkubtrying to ease the load on aceserver a tad
15:59.24cynyr_anyone having problems DE'ing things, with ace mods?
15:59.34Dekunacynyr: nope
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15:59.40nevcairielyeah stress the poor 160.000 google servers
15:59.42Prophyammo: can u send me a list of all your mods?
15:59.54Prophymust be one of my mods has a memory leak
16:00.00IcerothFtH|eagle, comment the module out from toc, i guess i have to go over all of the modules regarding enable/disable
16:00.01LaricTekkub filled your page with prOn? :P
16:00.07Tekkubyes
16:00.10Tekkubfurry porn
16:00.14[Ammo]Prophy: not really needed now is it?
16:00.15FtH|eagleyeah sure, just want to let you know :)
16:00.16DekunaLOL
16:00.18Tekkubto keep the stupid users away
16:00.18Icerothhad a real brainfart with casting things too, gotta fix it tonight
16:00.26Icerothbut what error are you getting?
16:00.28Dekunafurries rul3
16:00.32cynyr_Dekuna: cause when i go to DE it says addon is blocking this action would you like to disable it.. and goes through the whole list
16:00.49Dekunawhich addon says is performing the protected action?
16:00.58cynyr_Dekuna: they all do in turn
16:01.04Dekunahuh
16:01.12Prophyjust want to compare all the mods
16:01.19Dekunai've been de'ing things left and right since last night, no problems
16:01.36cynyr_Dekuna: it askes about one, and the i disable it and it asks about another one...
16:01.49[Ammo]Prophy: try disabling em all, and enabling one at the time until you get the fps drop
16:01.55[Ammo]most likely suspects are addons that watch units
16:02.00[Ammo]addons that update frequently etc
16:02.07Prophyswstats!
16:02.13Prophyeavesdrop?
16:02.21[Ammo]disable em and see if your fps is back
16:02.23Melisandrei wait to install swstats
16:02.32Dekunacynyr: no clue what could be causing that, try disabling everything and then enabling one by one till you find one
16:02.45Dekunait could also be a lib i guess
16:02.50[Ammo]get BugSack
16:02.55[Ammo]it'll give you a better clue probably
16:02.57Dekunamake sure you've gt bugsack
16:02.59Prophyanyone use Minnistats? can that sync with swstats? =)
16:03.07kebinusanammo, oRA2 seems to have had some options disabled like disabling MT targets target and such, was taht intentional?
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16:03.16[Ammo]kebinusan: that was intentional
16:03.28[Ammo]kebinusan: I ripped the MTs and PTs apart
16:03.33[Ammo]to put the secure stuff in
16:03.33odtnevcairiel: why is it that bt3 loses all keybindings when i go to blizzard keybinding menu?
16:03.39[Ammo]and couldn't figure out in time to get the options back
16:03.41Icerothwhoever finds the addon that is causing the massive GC in bgs, gimme a tell or something
16:03.45[Ammo]so I left it liek this
16:03.45kebinusanyeah np
16:03.51kebinusanI figured it might be somethin like that
16:03.53cynyr_Dekuna: kk gonna try that now
16:03.58[Ammo]it works. and I have no intention to fix it any time soon
16:04.15Tril_Interface\AddOns\Bartender3\Core.lua:1 attempt to call global AceLibrary a nil value
16:04.35cohwicki guess its the same reason the growth direction of the frames is gone, right?
16:04.42nevcairielodt: it shouldnt? :o
16:04.48[Ammo]cohwick: yes
16:04.51tumetomis there a working ouf version?
16:04.56Fiskerhaha Tekkub
16:05.00[Ammo]growth, horizontal layout all gone
16:05.00nevcairielodt: it does not for me either
16:05.02[Ammo]reverse gone
16:05.05[Ammo]ripped it out
16:05.05leech2kTril_: Did you download from SVN?
16:05.06Fiskeryour content is not for minors
16:05.07Tril_he is working on oUF right now
16:05.13boller_Anyone else having a problem with ClosetGnome and mounts?
16:05.16Tril_no, from zip file leech2k
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16:05.27Tril_and my wtf file was removed first before adding
16:05.27Melisandresorry to bother, abot ocb, is the 9181 working version?
16:05.29cohwickok :X
16:05.37leech2kTril_: Sound like you are missing a library.
16:05.46Melisandrecause it keeps telling me it's incompatible
16:05.49Tekkubr9181... I bet not
16:05.52Tekkubdot's old
16:05.54leech2kleech2k: Dir named AceLibrary should be under the libs dir
16:06.00Melisandreok.... i'll dl from svn then :/
16:06.07Tril_let me check the dir 1 sec
16:06.10odtnevcairiel: it doesn't do that for you?
16:06.19nevcairielodt: no
16:06.25cynyr_Dekuna: how do i use bugsack, or is it selfexplanitory?
16:06.28odthmm... i lose all keybindings after opening the blizzard menu
16:06.31odtexcept the main bar
16:06.33Tril_no libs in the libs dir for Bartender3
16:06.43odtand that i have bound using the blizzard way
16:06.44nevcairielstupid zipping script
16:06.51cohwickthat happens a lot actually
16:06.53leech2kTril_: Thats the problem. The zip is not complete.
16:06.55cohwickwith missing libs
16:07.05cohwickjust look at the filesizes
16:07.05Fiskeranyone seen an updated version of ct_raidtracker (modded)?
16:07.07nevcairielyeah the script doesnt manage with all the svn stress
16:07.15cohwickget one thats bigger, get the libs from there
16:07.20Tril_kk
16:07.36nevcairielyeah get an old version with the libs
16:07.42nevcairieland replace the other files with the new version
16:07.55Melisandre:) keep up the good work guys :)
16:07.59leech2kDang, I was able to access SVN okay last night. But, it seems hammered again.
16:08.06Melisandrei know it's harder for developers :)
16:08.10Melisandrebye
16:08.23nevcairielactually, we are having pretty much fun
16:08.26nevcairielah he left :D
16:08.32[Ammo]hehe
16:08.34kebinusanFisker,  there was one on wowinterface I think
16:08.52kebinusanFisker,  it wasnt done by freddy though
16:09.09Fiskergot   a link? :O
16:09.12Dekunathe zips are inert. :(
16:09.22kebinusannow, just somewhere in the wowinterface void
16:09.28kebinusanhave fun, I dont want to dig
16:09.32leech2kSo has anyone figure out how to make selfcast work with shit- and ctrl- bound buttons?
16:09.40leech2kerr shift*
16:09.48cohwick:D
16:09.51odtrightclick
16:09.54Mahirois vchat or idchat updated?
16:10.04Fisker[Ammo] is there any way you can customize target/tot/tott on the mt frames?
16:10.15hasteMahiro: just use Prat and delete all the crap
16:10.18Tril_fyi bartender 3 libs are broken ffrom 19340 forward
16:10.19cohwickprat works
16:10.24[Ammo]Fisker: yes, pay me big time
16:10.24Tril_so its multiple zip files that are missing
16:10.26[Ammo]I need a new PC
16:10.48nevcairielTril_: we know, but we cant do anything about it. Its a script which zips the files, and that scripts fails most of the time :)
16:10.50kebinusanis porn an accepted form of currency yet?
16:10.53leech2kTril_: The SVN (file repository) is to busy for the zips to buid correctly.
16:11.03leech2kTril_: Should get better soon.
16:11.08Tril_yeah just letting you guys know
16:11.13leech2kkk thx
16:11.13Tril_if someone else has the problem
16:11.23[Ammo]it's a known problem
16:11.26FiskerQQ [Ammo] :(
16:11.29[Ammo]for weeks already
16:11.31Fiskeri need one myself
16:11.40HjalteTril_, just download an earlier version of bartender3 and copy the libs
16:11.40nevcairielvery known, since every 5 minutes someone complains about it :D
16:11.45Tril_i did
16:11.54leech2ktime to set the channel topic?
16:11.56kebinusanknown since like 1.11? or earlier
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16:12.01Tril_maybe a nice rsync toa nother dir, that would then zip the files would solve the problem
16:12.02Josh_Borke[Ammo]: ping
16:12.09[Ammo]what?
16:12.12Fiskerobviously it would take you 1 to 10 seconds to add in an option that disabled mt/tot/tott respectively
16:12.16Fisker:P
16:12.24nevcairielTril_: thats basicly what it does, but with the way libraries are handles, it fails on them
16:12.30[Ammo]Fisker: if it would have taken me 10 seonds I would not have removed it from oRA2 now would I?
16:12.34Tril_gotcha
16:12.42Fiskeri guess not :(
16:12.48Josh_Borke[Ammo]: question about BigWigs on wowi.  any reason you split it out into multiple folders vs the svn setup with a single nested folder?  or just as preference?
16:12.58[Ammo]Josh_Borke: it's LoD
16:13.01[Ammo]it's better this way
16:13.09Qshadowpis it possible to have more than 12 buttons in a bar with bartender3?
16:13.10Josh_Borkeok
16:13.27[Ammo]Josh_Borke: releases will always be LoD
16:13.28cohwickrun the lod.bat and everything is fine, right? :>
16:13.30nevcairielQshadowp: no ( or not yet .. not sure yet :) )
16:13.36Qshadowp:(
16:13.39[Ammo]Josh_Borke: if you grab it from the SVN you have to run the bat
16:13.48Qshadowpim trying to set up my action bars like how they used to be
16:13.50Qshadowphttp://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9582/wow2006112519234681kx0.jpg like that
16:14.07Qshadowpbut i cant make a long line of buttons with bartender3 or bongos, and they both eat buttons if you make rows shorter
16:14.09cynyr_Dekuna: it was onebag ...
16:14.10nevcairielweird dualscreen setups
16:14.16kebinusanshould toss a shell script in there too :-)
16:14.19Qshadowpduelscreen setup for the win :)
16:14.25Josh_Borke[Ammo]: thanks.  was just checking
16:14.27cohwicksomeone likes to blink :>
16:14.34Qshadowpyea :>
16:14.41kebinusanclick
16:14.50kebinusanarg!
16:14.55cynyr_Dekuna: well they rest were already disabled...
16:15.03[Ammo]kebinusan: write me a proper shell script shrug
16:15.05cohwickwidescreen > dualscreen :)
16:15.13odtaddons must be killing me
16:15.27odtui usage was up to 40mb, and got random dc from bg
16:15.44Tril_random dc from bg isn't addons
16:15.49Tril_that was happening to me this morning too
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16:15.58Tril_and I was running straight wow ui
16:15.58Barbanusif you are d/c from 40mb of addons, you must be running on a calculator
16:15.58Fiskerbtw anyone seen if theorycraft has been continued/updated
16:16.24odtBarbanus: that's why i use ace, cause i got 512MB ram
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16:16.35odtused to the UI taking around 20MB
16:16.39Barbanusodt: hehe
16:17.05xlviinight
16:17.10BarbanusI dare go back to running wow on 512mb ram, lol
16:17.12kebinusanammo, http://ace.pastey.net/3182
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16:17.57cynyr_so how do i use bugsack?
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16:18.49[Ammo]kebinusan: it's committing now..
16:19.00CIA-1703ammo * r19492 10BigWigs/bigwigslod.sh: BigWigs: added bigwigslod.sh thanks kebinusan
16:19.01HealthNo more oSkin? Different name?
16:19.10BarbanusI like that bot
16:19.54cynyr_Health: skinner
16:20.02HealthI guessed
16:20.03HealthThanks
16:20.06Laric[Ammo] you there?
16:20.36Tril_do I need to d/l all the big wigs now or just the main one?
16:21.18Sarozsup peeps
16:21.22Lariclo
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16:21.36Sarozcurse still down?
16:21.50cynyr_hmm bugsack doesn't do anything when i get a blocked error
16:21.56Qshadowpsigh...why do both bongos and bartender3 have this bug
16:21.58Qshadowpits so irritateing
16:22.04Jagobahwhich one
16:22.06[Cu]WerikIt's up and down
16:22.12[Ammo]Laric: I am here
16:22.18Qshadowpif i make a bar with 6 buttons the other 6 buttons in that bar no longer exist
16:22.21Qshadowpand theres no way to show them again
16:22.31Laric[Ammo] will the option to turn on and off frames in the mt frames come back?
16:22.41CIA-1703ammo * r19493 10oRA2/ora2lod.sh: oRA2: added ora2lod.sh thanks kebinusan for the bigwigs original :)
16:22.41Qshadowpso i have 4 bars of 12, i make bar 1 6 buttons instead of 12, wheres the other 6 buttons gone?
16:22.41deltronhehe
16:22.42Laricthe target and targettarget?
16:22.44[Ammo]you are #4 to ask that
16:22.45Qshadowpthey don't go to bar 5 or bar 2 :(
16:22.47[Ammo]n o
16:22.53Saroz[Cu]Werik, did we ever make that bet? :p
16:22.55Laricok
16:23.02[Cu]WerikYea, we did :)
16:23.04[Ammo]I removed them for now
16:23.09Lariccan't ask on the forum as it doesnt work ;P
16:23.10[Ammo]because I could not get it to work properly
16:23.19Laricthanks for the answer
16:23.42Qshadowpbrrr i want discord :(
16:23.44Qshadowpor flexbar :(
16:23.52Tril_then go get em
16:23.59Qshadowpthey ain't updated yet
16:24.14Tril_then they are not worth having :)
16:24.32Tril_i think bartender3 kills discord anyway
16:24.36Qshadowpwell there the only action bars that don't have this stupid bug eating mod
16:24.39Qshadowpbartender3 eats buttons.
16:24.42[Liquidor]Heh are ppl busy updating their projects? :)
16:24.51cynyr_grrr WoW still wants me to disable just about every ACE mod just to DE
16:25.10[Ammo]cynyr_: you probably have one bad ace mod
16:25.42RyakWhich lib package is ACEOO-2.0 in please
16:25.44Qshadowpanyone know of a action bar mod that doesn't eat buttons? :(
16:25.45cynyr_[Ammo]: thats what it looks like, but how do i track it down?
16:25.49[Cu]WerikSaroz, Apparently I lost that bet :P
16:25.56Saroz:p
16:25.57[Ammo][Cu]Werik: :) :) :)
16:25.58pastamancerRyak: Ace2
16:26.03[Ammo]told you so! :)
16:26.06SarozI need access to curse
16:26.07Sarozffs
16:26.07Ryakthanks pasta
16:26.08Sarozneed mods
16:27.02[Cu]WerikThe traffic exceeded my expectations. If you remember, net was talking about 50k hits / hour before the patch
16:27.34Fiskerany idea why bugsack is insane? :O
16:27.34[Cu]WerikHe almost got it
16:27.39[Liquidor]Well I already suggested it to you [Cu]Werik: VIP ACCOUNTS FTW !
16:27.42Fiskerhave like 5 out of 5000 errors now
16:27.44[Cu]WerikWe were around 450k yesterday
16:27.45lassizciQshadowp: flexbar2 doesn't eat buttons afaik. Also there should be working one
16:27.54Tril_ok is there a summon mod for ace? (sorry gonna keep asking till someone answers) one that says who is being summoned in raid chat etc.
16:27.55lassizcicorrect me if I'm wrong
16:27.57[Ammo]BT3 also does not eat buttons
16:28.02nevcairielit does
16:28.08[Ammo]poh?
16:28.08nevcairielin some form
16:28.16[Liquidor]Tril_: try curse-gaming.com
16:28.22[Ammo]it does not for me :)
16:28.24cohwickeat?
16:28.25pastamancerbutton eating?  are they delicious?
16:28.27[Ammo]but then again I use BT3 like it is cardbars
16:28.32[Liquidor]What do you mean with eating btw?
16:28.33CIA-1703nevcairiel * r19494 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua Defaults.lua Options.lua):
16:28.33CIA-17Bartender3:
16:28.33CIA-17- You can overwrite the buttonlock by holding down shift now
16:28.33CIA-17- Added an option to toggle the display of hotkeys per bar
16:28.33nevcairielif you limit bar1 to 10 buttons, it eats the remaining 2 buttons and those cannot be reused
16:28.50Barbanus[Cu]Werik, I bet you use a crapload of bandwidth a month
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16:29.32FeidanIs it possible to show one of the small boxes in grid when someone does not have a buff instead of when he has it?
16:29.40[Liquidor][Cu]Werik: I'll send ya 5 buck. Now give me a private server at Cu !
16:29.44Qshadowpyea thats my problem
16:29.47cohwickGridStatusMissingBuffs
16:29.48Qshadowp9[04nevcairiel9-> is that fixed?
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16:29.54HealthNice colors.
16:29.59Qshadowp9[04Health9-> thanks
16:30.03haste1727.12| Ignoring ALL from Qshadowp
16:30.08hastefucking retarded shit
16:30.11nevcairielgood plan
16:30.12HealthHahah :)
16:30.15Qshadowplol
16:30.24[Cu]WerikI don't know, but we use a lot for sure. To be honest, I know just as much as you do. I'm doing the same, trying and trying. Sometimes I catch some info, but I'm not involved with the hardware/developing part.
16:30.29Qshadowpanyways, did they fix bartender?
16:30.30[Liquidor]What are the numbers haste ?
16:30.35boller_Right click self cast on bartender rules :)
16:30.38nevcairielits time
16:30.39nevcairiel:D
16:30.39haste[Liquidor]: hmm?
16:30.43Feidancohwick: can you explain a bit better?
16:30.55[Liquidor]haste: 1727.12...
16:31.05[Ammo]17h27m12s
16:31.12hasteoh!
16:31.15hastethose numbers :p
16:31.15cohwickits on wowinterface Feidan
16:31.21hasteit's the timestamp
16:31.26cohwickbut i dunno if its working on 2.0
16:31.28Feidancohwick: ok
16:31.33[Liquidor]funny timestamp you got there mate :>
16:31.39hasteused them for years :D
16:31.40[Liquidor]hahah *rofl*
16:31.45hasteeven use them in WoW!
16:31.47Qshadowplol
16:31.51lassizciPersonally I use binary timestamps
16:31.58phyberit's not that funny a timestamp.  it's the winning timestamp!
16:31.58cohwickright
16:31.59Sarozneeed curse
16:32.03phyber1630.02 <     haste> 1727.12| Ignoring ALL from Qshadowp
16:32.10phybertotal winrar.
16:32.13haste:D
16:32.13boller_what for saroz out of curiosity?
16:32.17Tricksta_Off to work!
16:32.18Sarozpallypower
16:32.19Tricksta_yay
16:32.20Qshadowp(16:31:45) (Qshadowp) thats my time stamp :)
16:32.25Sarozdamn all 3 UI sites are down
16:32.32[Liquidor]*I'm a robot and this is how I have my timestamps 1--.7/-,2'7...1,,-.2 (aka 17h27m12s)* :D
16:32.36Qshadowp9[04Saroz9-> yea they are :(
16:33.00Saroz_icetrain, ping
16:33.07Qshadowpdoes anyone know if there are any action bar mods updated that dont eat buttons?
16:33.14cohwicki looked at the .toc Feidan, it should work
16:33.33cohwicknow you just have to get on wowi and to the download :P
16:33.39Grollack my agunit frames are like gooone :(
16:33.48[Liquidor]update them then
16:33.50Barbanusdoes anyone know if Henge works?  I didnt run it before the patch, just downloaded it, but I cant seem to add any buttons to it.
16:34.06[Cu]WerikIf you ask me, three websites aren't enough to cover this big community
16:34.23[Liquidor]I'm already working on one [Cu]Werik :)
16:34.29Josh_Borkeand if you ask me, 3 websites are too much to put things in each place :-P
16:34.29[Liquidor]But that's Realm-Only
16:34.33phyberwow, we've broken 200 people. I remember the good old days when there were like 6 people and Rowne giving some LUA lessons ;)
16:35.02Groll[Liquidor] doh i aint stupid u know i did update them
16:35.03deltronhehe
16:35.33Tril_wow that zip script REALLY needs a re-vamp :D
16:35.41MikmaMikk: got your mail xD
16:35.42[Liquidor]Imho there should be ONE BIG MOTHERFOCKER HUGE and with thousands of Gbit to store all info/data related to WoW. Then we all be happy
16:35.52[Liquidor]website*
16:35.55Fiskerso anyone know why bugsack has 5 out of 30000 errors now? :P
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16:35.59muqqhmm
16:36.04muqqis sraidframes bugged?
16:36.08BarbanusTril_, I bet some people are doing mass checkouts on the SVN server
16:36.09muqqshamans arent showing up
16:36.11muqqin the list
16:36.17AmadeoFisker: Are you running tekSupport?
16:36.28Barbanusmuqq, I dunno, I'm alliance, paladins show fine.
16:36.52phyberFisker: check BugSack and you'll know!
16:37.01[Liquidor]How many more professions are we going to have in TBC?
16:37.06phyberone of those 5 errors will have [x30000] next to it, and then you know what's borked ;)
16:37.11cohwick[Liquidor]: you see how well worldofwarcraft.com or wow-europe.com performs, if there are "hot" times right?
16:37.12Fiskerno Amadeo
16:37.18Fiskerphyber there's only 5 bugs
16:37.27phyberyeah, 5 bugs, and one of them happened 30000 times.
16:37.28cohwicknow they have _money_ and still
16:37.29oxmanIn which .mpq i can find the secure file ?
16:37.32lhunathqshadowp: ew! What's with the colours on your nickname autocomplete
16:37.32Fiskerah
16:37.33[Liquidor]cohwick: No I don't cause I can't access them ;)
16:37.37phyberif you look in the tablet, you should see it.
16:37.39cohwickehe
16:37.47Fisker[2006/12/07 17:34:25-368-x5728]: FuBar_QuestsFu\QuestsFu.lua:897: Tablet-2.0: You must set title within a registration i guess then
16:37.48Fisker:o
16:37.53Fiskerhaha
16:37.55Fiskerx5728
16:37.55oxmanIn which .mpq i can find the secure file ?
16:37.56phybernice. :)
16:38.13cohwickquestsfu and tofu both get me some table error too btw
16:38.16cohwicki disabled them -.-
16:38.25lhunathoxman: what *are* you talking about?
16:38.26Fiskeri feel sorry for no fatality x50000
16:38.31[Liquidor]But I really doubt that the website server is any good !! I mean, Google can handle even more visitors, so yes it _is_ possible to keep a website up. *looking at [Cu]Werik*
16:38.48oxmanI must extract .mpq to get the secure template file, There is lots of comment into these files
16:38.53cohwickyou dont want to now, how big the server farm is
16:38.54[Cu]Werikgoogle has serverfarms all over the world
16:38.58cohwickgoogle's farm
16:39.02[Liquidor][Cu]Werik: Do that !
16:39.12lhunathoxman: use the tool provided by blizzard.
16:39.13Tril_yeah i get the feeling alot of people dont know how much it costs to have a site like this
16:39.16cynyr_[Ammo]: found it, it's onebag/onebank
16:39.20[Cu]Werikthey have sites in nearly every country
16:39.21Tril_with the amount of bandwidth that is used
16:39.29cohwickits insane
16:39.33[Liquidor]Well
16:39.38cohwickbut on the other hand, its a chance :)
16:39.38[Liquidor]I keep suggestions VIP Accounts
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16:39.53[Liquidor]suggestioning* (I think)
16:40.02cncfanaticsyo all
16:40.16[Liquidor]Well I was actually talk about WoW-Europe and Worldofwarcraft as well.
16:40.26[Liquidor]I mean, they got the money eh?
16:40.33[Cu]WerikI'm not sure what our problem is but it's not the http server
16:40.39[Cu]WerikProbably the SQL server
16:40.43cohwickthey are fine at like 95% of the time
16:40.44Tril_blizz wouldn't do anything they didn't make money on heh
16:40.56cohwickbut then there are those hot days like now or if the servers are down...
16:40.59[Liquidor][Cu]Werik: Why don't you make a low bandwidth version??
16:41.04cohwickand everyone and his mom are hammering them sites
16:41.04hasteKirkburn|afk: What is it that ClearFont does, that makes it HAVE to load before everything else? (I'm asking since your using the retarded ! in the folder name, and if it's there for no reason at all - I would like to flame you.)
16:41.06[Cu]WerikHow?
16:41.15[Liquidor]A page showing files only
16:41.19[Cu]WerikList 10000 addons on a single white page?
16:41.26phyber[Liquidor]: because if the problem is the SQL server, bandwidth has nothing to do with it ;)
16:41.31cohwickwowace.com/files?
16:41.32cohwick:P
16:41.40AmadeoI'm sure you can still organize them
16:41.42[Cu]WerikWe would loose the statistics
16:41.55[Liquidor]phyber: in this case it's called low bandwidth version, but referring to a lite site
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16:42.04Kirkburn|afkhaste, because no-one seem(ed) to know how the font system works
16:42.11[Cu]Werikbandwidth is not our problem
16:42.21[Liquidor]-.-
16:42.24Kirkburn|afkMainly I have to have it reload after any addon loads
16:42.33[Cu]Werikwe dont even use all the servers imho:P
16:42.54axxono connection pooling?
16:42.55[Liquidor]If you create a page only indexing files you will get rid of all the other features on the site (incl. the big wiki core)
16:42.59Mikmasvn dislikes me
16:43.01[Liquidor]aka reducing SQL connectionts
16:43.13hasteKirkburn|afk: well, what it does is making it load as one of the first, after the add ons that have deps have been loaded
16:43.18[Cu]WerikThe guys were working on the SQL cluster yesterday
16:43.19hasteKirkburn|afk: which makes no sence at all!
16:43.28[Cu]WerikI dont know if they finished it
16:43.36Kirkburn|afkYes, but there's code to reload it after every addon load
16:43.50[Cu]WerikActually, I barely know anything:)
16:44.09abbathhmmm
16:44.12Kirkburn|afkI would give up on making it load first if I could guaruantee that any changes ClearFont are retrospective
16:44.18[Liquidor]It's not like I'm stupid or something when it comes to webdesign, but at least I know EVERYONE in here belives that a blank page loads faster/takes less SQL bandwidth than a full community ;) That's my point
16:44.41AmadeoPages without banner ads load faster, too :P
16:44.49[Liquidor]Hehe good point :)
16:44.53cohwickit will do the same traffic to the sql server
16:44.54cncfanaticsany ace'd damage meter ?
16:44.54Kirkburn|afk(e.g. Font B inherits Standard Font A with changes. ClearFont loads after and changes B. Does A change?)
16:44.58[Liquidor]That's why I never visit allakhazam
16:45.01GrollAmadeo u pay for the curse site then :D
16:45.05hasteKirkburn|afk: well, you can just scan for that at PEW?
16:45.07[Liquidor]Their ads are just killing the site :-
16:45.23AmadeoGroll: I'd rather pay for a working site than a site that's down :)
16:45.27hasteno need to 'try' to load as the first add on, when you can use a better solution which will work for everyone
16:45.31[Liquidor]Groll: they won't let us :) There's no paypal or vip feature
16:45.32[Cu]WerikWho needed pallypower?
16:45.33Groll[Liquidor] that i can agree on, the ads make it a lot slower but they do need an income
16:45.34[Cu]Werikhttp://media3.curse-gaming.com/media/files/47-21068-pallypower-2-00-24.zip
16:45.44SarozTY!!!
16:45.50Kirkburn|afkhaste, but I need to know how the font system works first!
16:45.57Grollhmm that's true aswell. :P
16:46.05[Liquidor]Groll: I didn't relate to the adds at all about the files index :) They can have them there, I don't mind
16:46.10hasteKirkburn|afk: no, not really - you just change the font anyway right?
16:46.11Grollbah i need smartbuff to work! baah
16:46.11cohwickthere is a 25 of pallypower out
16:46.12Skyboatis there any way to fix the channeling bar disappearing after a second or two in oCB?
16:46.18cohwicki think i got it from wowi
16:46.27lassizciwhat was the function to hide default actionbar?
16:46.28[Cu]WerikThere, it's up again
16:46.35Kirkburn|afkhaste, but so do addons, I have to make sure they take up the ClearFont changes
16:46.43cohwick2.00.25
16:46.43cohwick- corrected display for dead people, (num) was missing
16:46.47aE|neXteranyone here with some knowledge of chronometer
16:47.02Saroz-.-
16:47.10Sarozcohwick :(
16:47.11Kirkburn|afkI would certainly make the change if I knew for certain it wouldn't mess up
16:47.18hasteKirkburn|afk: you could iterate the frames :)
16:47.28aE|neXteri'd like to add 2 new spells so the paladin timers
16:47.38oxmanI can't get the file  SecureActionButtonTemplate, where I can get it ? (For the comment within)
16:47.41cohwickSaroz: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/dl.php?id=6370
16:47.42aE|neXteri successfully added divine illumination
16:47.44Kirkburn|afkIf I, uh, knew how, or knew what it meant :P
16:47.49hasteKirkburn|afk: here at least, ClearFont loads last, not that it changes much for me however
16:47.52aE|neXterbut light's grace won't work
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16:48.04Kirkburn|afk"much", or anything?
16:48.35hasteit changes the default stuff, the rest I've hardcoded a font on, so that won't be changed by it anyway
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16:49.00Kirkburn|afkPEW is fired after all addons are loaded, no?
16:49.22oxmanI can't get the file  SecureActionButtonTemplate, where I can get it ? (For the comment within)
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16:49.52Kirkburn|afkAh, here's the problem
16:50.24Kirkburn|afkEven if I make it used PEW and LoD, later LoD addons which reference Fonts.xml will change it all back
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16:50.37Tril_wow just got soe wow message "submitting non-personal identification" heh
16:51.17Tinhayhi guys, does anyone happen to have a link to Clique for 2.0.0? I couldn't find it in the svn :/
16:51.26thalieit's not an ace mod anymore, so it's not on the svn
16:51.30thalietry wowinterface.com
16:51.36Kirkburn|afkhaste, if you can suggest a way around that problem, I'd be much obliged :)
16:51.43Tinhayi see, thanks
16:51.46aE|neXterhmm, so noone here with any knowledge of chronometer, damn
16:52.04lassizcierr.. how do I start configuring flexbar2? Can't find much documentation..
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16:52.23lassizciold slash commands doesn't seem to exist
16:52.24hasteKirkburn|afk: I don't fully see the problem, I might have a look at it tho'
16:52.33hastebut first I have some add ons that needs to be converted to wow 2.0
16:52.45Prophydid anyone get really low FPS last night when raiding?  normal (outside of raid) was about 30fps while in raid it was 8-12fps??
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16:53.14cohwickTinhay: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/dl.php?id=5108
16:53.23Kirkburn|afkThe Blizz LoD addons referenced Fonts.xml in their .toc (need to check if they still do), so it loaded it, and unless ClearFont loaded right afterwards, all the fonts would be changed back to normal
16:53.39DhragaQuestion, how would I do to submitt fixed addons to the svn, can I do that without beeing an author ?
16:53.52hasteDhraga: You ask the author
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16:54.05Tinhaywowinterface keeps timing out for me at the moment, ill just keep on trying. thanks for the direct link ;)
16:54.13Dhragaah ok haste
16:54.30hasteDhraga: there's nothing more annoying then people committing to your add ons without you knowing
16:54.47thaliehaste: more annoying than people asking you how to fix your own addons?  :)
16:55.05hastethalie: depends on how they ask
16:55.17sbuhaste: my clearfont crashes wow on logout :o
16:55.17SarozWhats the replacement for string.gfind ?
16:55.20Kirkburn|afkOooh, just noticed the most sensible change in Vista - when you create copies of files, rather than putting "Copy of", it appends "- Copy" ... thus stays in the same area :D
16:55.23nevcairielstring.gmatch
16:55.25nevcairielafaik
16:55.27sbuat least if i create that 'fonts' directory
16:55.36hastethalie: it's just as annoying as the: hello, NOW FIX X type
16:55.37Kirkburn|afksbu, what font are you using?
16:55.38HealthSoo.. I hear people say decursive and stuff still works?
16:55.40CIA-1703nevcairiel * r19495 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Core.lua Options.lua): Bartender3: rows option on the micromenu enabled again
16:55.50thaliedecursive works?  lol
16:55.54nevcairielfools
16:55.55thaliegod, that would be great.
16:55.56nevcairiel:)
16:56.00nevcairielit doesnt
16:56.10ElkanoKirkburn|afk, wrt CLearFont, why not re-set settings on ADDON_LOADED?
16:56.35Dhragayes I can understand that, just that I have gotten help from you guys n gals to fix some small errors... just wanted to share the fixed addons... but I see your point haste
16:56.46evlhaste: neeed... ooooufff
16:56.47nevcairielooh my GM ticket changed from "were expieriencing a high number of petitions" to "you will be serviced soon"
16:56.55hasteevl: didn't you fix a hacked version :D ?
16:56.57leech2kkeybinding text only shows up on 1 of my bt3 bars?
16:57.03Kirkburn|afkElkano, that's what I do do
16:57.15nevcairielleech2k: how do you do the bindings?
16:57.36leech2klike 3 rows of keys have blizzard built in bindings
16:57.42leech2kit only shows up on the main rows
16:57.46Mikmahaste: U SUXX LOLOLOO!
16:57.47leech2krow*
16:57.49nevcairielthats intendet
16:57.54leech2ko
16:57.59nevcairieluse the bt3 keybindings
16:58.00leech2kkk
16:58.08leech2kthx
16:58.12hasteKirkburn|afk: still don't need the ! then :)
16:58.57abbatGuys, someone know are some standalone cooldown count support Trinity Buttons?
16:58.57Kirkburn|afkAs I've been trying to explain for the last 30 mins, no-one has ever been able to give me a definite explanation of the fonts system
16:59.00JensBah... I wish the patch rush would end soon.
16:59.13cohwickabbat: OmniCC
16:59.16leech2kAny chance if I bind a bt3 button to say shift-1 alt selfcast will still work?
16:59.17Mikma[Ammo]: i kinda dislike abbat
16:59.18Kirkburn|afk"e.g. Font B inherits Standard Font A with changes. ClearFont loads after and changes B. Does A change?"
16:59.26abbatcohwick, thanks
16:59.30Mikma[Ammo]: he's in ace -channel and all he does is talk about non-ace addons
16:59.38Kirkburn|afkArgh, i wrote that wrong
16:59.48abbatMikma, and? :)
16:59.49Kirkburn|afk"e.g. Font B inherits Standard Font A with changes. ClearFont loads after and changes A. Does B change?"
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17:00.07Mikmaabbat: wowACE not wowDISCORD or wowTRINITY
17:00.32sbuKirkburn|afk: uhm that calibri thing
17:00.32abbatMikma, w8, i d/l Grid. I think you have time for me? :)
17:00.42Mikmano. i hate you.
17:00.46evlhaste: it's got some... issues :D
17:00.48Kirkburn|afkhaste, if the answer to that question is yes, I would be better served to use zClearFont as a folder name
17:00.53abbatAnd btw aced mods not required any explanation for me
17:00.58Kirkburn|afksbu, what OS?
17:01.05sbuwinxp
17:01.10Kirkburn|afkOdd
17:01.19Kirkburn|afkIt most certainly should not have that effect
17:01.30Kirkburn|afkGiven that I run on XP and use Calibri
17:01.43hasteKirkburn|afk: thing is tho', you should NEVER rely on load order
17:01.49abbatMikma, btw, i change trinity source and now my buttons looks like dab buttons :)
17:01.54hasteKirkburn|afk: heck, it's not even the same for everyone using Windows
17:01.59Kirkburn|afkI know, I know
17:02.05Mikmaabbat: and you can go drown in a bucket of pee
17:02.36hasteKirkburn|afk: regarding your question, ever thought about making a simple test-case?
17:02.40abbatNow i plan do the same with bt3 ;) Maybe after this they be nice for me ;)
17:02.41SachsWhat a way to go.
17:02.58Kirkburn|afkI'm really not that good at Lua
17:03.56hasteKirkburn|afk: I've noted your question at least, I might do a test of it this weekend
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17:04.10Kirkburn|afkhaste, thanks
17:04.17Kirkburn|afkGonna try removing the ! now
17:04.36haste!ClearFont is the second last add on to load here btw
17:04.39hastethen the LoDs
17:04.52Kirkburn|afkI'm sure it'll work, since I've not had hordes of Mac and Linux players having problems :P
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17:05.23Kirkburn|afkhaste, and no signs of the original fonts showing?
17:05.36hasteKirkburn|afk: not that I can see at least
17:05.40Kirkburn|afkWhat OS is that?
17:06.30oxmanI can't get the file  SecureActionButtonTemplate, where I can get it ? (For the comment within)
17:07.07hasteKirkburn|afk: That would be Linux
17:07.24ElkanoOMG... on deDE UI forums someone posted in japanese....
17:07.25Kirkburn|afkGlad that it works :D Looks to be fine here too
17:07.41Mikmaoxman: wdn.wowinterface.com?
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17:07.44boller_Does BT3 allow bar swapping on stance change?
17:07.59oxmanmerci Mikk
17:08.05boller_or was that blocked by the patch?
17:08.23leech2kboller_: I am pretty sure it does. But, I could be wrong.
17:08.39phyberoxman: you could have found that our hours ago with this new thing on the internet, called Google.
17:08.54phyberit even has a cache of the page since wowi is/was down!
17:08.56Sachshttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Tempest386/WHAT.jpg haha
17:08.57oxmanNo really ?
17:08.57oxman:p
17:09.26Mahiroomg has someone else that problem with bt3 that you get huge lags if you use keybindings?
17:09.40Kirkburn|afkSachs, that's ... unbelievable
17:09.48SachsKirkburn|afk, it is. ;P
17:09.59cncfanaticssvn buggy ,?
17:10.09cncfanaticssvn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default'
17:10.43Mikmaworks as intended
17:11.15SachsPoor servers.. :/
17:11.26Eternally777I knew I should've saved a local copy of the wiki pages
17:11.27SachsAww..
17:12.09Firedancer~whalecrit Sachs
17:12.11purlACTION crits Sachs with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Sachs dies
17:12.52SarozSkinner is so full of errors, hihi
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17:13.13Kirkburn|afkAww, thanks =)
17:13.15kergothhmm... the other day i saw this little addon that put a character level by each skill level in the professions/skills panel, to give you a ballpark of how you're doing currently.. so if i'm at 305 max but currently 295, itd show level 59
17:13.22Kirkburn|afkI'll put up the new versions soon, I promise
17:13.24kergothbut i cant for the life of me remember what its called or which addon site i saw it at
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17:13.43Firedanceri got fed up with all the crap in skinner and went back to a modified xart for a skinned bottomframe only
17:13.57zoomjronebank not support 7 bank bags?
17:14.07SilvWould anyone be able to help with a conditional macro question?
17:14.19pb_ee1*** www.wowace.com has been killed by its users ***
17:14.22pb_ee1;)
17:14.29SachsNo wai.
17:14.37toddi tried making an ace2 mod for just the bottomframe yesterday, firedancer
17:14.40toddit came out alright
17:14.44SachsWAU is slowly chugging along updating my mods..
17:14.50Kirkburn|afkzomg, I just realised - new versions of the fonts are on my Vista beta
17:14.54Saroz[Cu]Werik, let me browse your mirrors
17:14.56toddcouldn't get the border working, though
17:15.02SilvSachs: Did you figure out the culprit for the high increasing memory rate?
17:15.13pb_ee1Sachs: That's normal, there is a very huge load on the server
17:15.27Firedancertodd: neato :)
17:15.27SachsSilv, negative. :/ Didn't have time to fiddle with it since it was mid-raid.
17:15.33Silvah
17:15.47SilvDoes anyone know if there is a creature type modifier for conditional macros?
17:15.51Silvexample:  type=undead
17:15.53Silv?
17:16.13SachsHaha.
17:16.17CIA-1703werehamster * r19497 10CommChannel/ (CommChannel.toc Lib/CommChannel.lua):
17:16.17CIA-17CommChannel:
17:16.17CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:16.53kebinusansilv, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51896128&sid=1
17:16.54nevcairielSilv: no i dont think so
17:16.56SachsTrying to hit Curse-Gaming: "We are sorry, there was an error processing your page. This is probably due to a server restart, hopefully, the website should be running again in a few minutes. You may continue to our homepage (link to the page I was trying to get to)."
17:17.00HjalteAny *updated* ace2 mod for whisper managing?
17:17.03SachsI'm easily amused.
17:17.11Mahirocan someone tell me why i get lags if i use mouse keys for spells with bartender3?
17:17.16Silvyeah i have the concise list up on my screen atm
17:17.22Silvbut couldnt find it, figured i'd ask
17:17.40kebinusanprobably not, Im guessing they want that part to be decided by you
17:17.42cohwickHjalte: FuBar_WhisperFu?
17:18.01kebinusanotherwise you could like, if target=elementa/demon] banish; nuke
17:18.04Hjaltecohwick: yea, just found it on the svn. Thanks.
17:18.09CIA-1703werehamster * r19498 10HealSync/ (HealSync.lua HealSync.toc HealSyncButton.lua):
17:18.09CIA-17HealSync:
17:18.09CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:18.28leech2kWhat does HealSync do?
17:18.46nevcairielstupid game masters
17:19.06Amadeois BG rep gain slower than it used to be?
17:19.24leech2kHonor is. Not sure about rep.
17:19.27SachsHmm, someone say my nick. Testing highlight.
17:19.32Kirkburn|afkSachs ftw
17:19.32Amadeomy nick
17:19.34leech2kSachs is ghey.
17:19.36Sroshrep seems the same
17:19.41SachsAmadeo, DIAF. ;P
17:19.44Amadeohahah
17:19.49SachsThanks.
17:20.12leech2khmm so know one know what HealSync does?
17:21.13kebinusanleech2k, judging by the name ... it seem so obviou
17:21.17kebinusans
17:21.20leech2kreally?
17:21.23andremarleech2k: I'm gonna take a wild guess at it syncing heals somehow
17:21.24boller_insight us then
17:21.26CIA-1703werehamster * r19499 10HealSync/HealSync.lua:
17:21.26CIA-17HealSync:
17:21.26CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:21.40BarbanusI'm guessing it syncs heals through the blizz back raid channel
17:21.41kebinusanId guess its something like forecast
17:21.42leech2klol how do u sync heals? like a damage meter?
17:21.44SachsIs there a equipbyname command?
17:21.46kebinusan*shrug*
17:21.47Kirkburn|afklool, my ClearFont fonts folder has now reached 13.6 Meg and rising
17:21.55leech2khmm
17:22.04Kirkburn|afk(you want options? You GET options =)
17:22.08kebinusanopen the toc and see there is probably a short description there
17:22.15leech2kgood idea :-)
17:22.19leech2kif I can get to it
17:22.33cohwickno description in the toc
17:22.33cohwicki just checked :<
17:22.53wereHamsterleech2k, IMHO it would be faster to use google instead of asking in this channel.. for your convenience: http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:zCq_UW4bhpIJ:www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4191-healsync.html+HealSync&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5
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17:23.16cohwickgood old google cache
17:23.27BarbanuswereHamster did you just use logic?
17:23.37boller_Does that need all the raid to use it?
17:23.42MikmawereHamster: wanna bite my nuts?
17:24.00wereHamsterwhat did I do wrong now?
17:24.00gnorlishhe's a rodent, i'm sure he does
17:24.07kebinusanI wonder if the new castbars for party members would make that easier to do
17:24.10MikmawereHamster: hamsters like nuts
17:24.13thaliehahaha
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17:25.04leech2kahh I see what it does now
17:25.05kebinusanhttp://www.doyouwant2cds.net/
17:25.09kebinusannsfw
17:25.14leech2kkind of nifty
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17:25.33cohwicki guess everyone needs to use it tho
17:25.38thaliei would reckon so
17:26.03Amadeoeverytime someone joins or leaves a raid group, I get GC
17:26.08Mikmanuts <3
17:26.25hastehmm, tab-completion is fun stuff, when it goes wrong
17:26.47kebinusanhaste, yeah I got like 300 names by tabbing wrong in prat, but I suppose it could be worse
17:26.52Mikmahaste: U SUXX LOLOLOO!!
17:27.00hastef.Power.String:SetTextColor(string.format(self.strings[type], a1, a2, a3))
17:27.07haste"Why doesn't it work!??!?!"
17:27.27leech2kwereHamster: Does it sync with addon channel or just read the log?
17:27.39wereHamsterleech2k, addon channel
17:28.11leech2kwereHamster: Sweet nice work :-)
17:28.15wereHamsterMikma, your addon you posted yesterday won't let me scroll the chatframe with my mouse wheel
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17:28.57Tekkubhttp://www.pvrwire.com/2006/12/06/tivo-s-dropped-commercial-surfaces-on-youtube-tivo-taunts-netw/
17:28.59Tekkub^^
17:29.01MikmawereHamster: yeah i noticed the same. it was chatman that did the same for me but i'm planning on adding the chatscroll unless chatman gets updated
17:29.03Tril_so how would I cast a script now with a macro in WoW? since they are blocking everything?
17:29.05SachsWTB: Prat tab completion that only does party/guild/raid ;P
17:29.13Tekkubsad that they dropped that ad because of the TV networks
17:29.20Tril_if I wanted to do like CastSpellByName("Ritual of Summoning")
17:29.31Kirkburn|afkwtf, now I'm getting crashes on logout, sbu
17:29.34Sachs"/cast Ritual of Summoning" ?
17:29.45sbuKirkburn|afk: heh :)
17:29.51sbuKirkburn|afk: and dmg text + names are gone?
17:29.52sbuingmae
17:29.53sbuingame
17:29.59wereHamsterwhy does HealSync only work if all players use it? Simple.. the blizzard API doesn't provide a way to query the spell target and with the new '/cast [target=XXX]' it would be too unreliable to guess
17:30.06gnorlishkb, what the crap are you adding that makes cf 13 megs?!?
17:30.18MikmaTekkub: funny
17:30.23Kirkburn|afkAlso, changing !ClearFont to "ClearFont" was a failure for me
17:30.27Sachsgnorlish, my guess is different fonts. ;P
17:30.44Kirkburn|afkNo problem with names
17:31.00Kirkburn|afkgnorlish, they're not loaded :P
17:31.04Firedancertekkub: lol @ tivo comm :p
17:31.05Kirkburn|afkOnly the one you choose
17:31.08gnorlishright, i understand
17:31.28gnorlishi hadn't looked at filesize for fonts, that must be a bunch though
17:31.39Tril_so no way to cast a spell now on a target?
17:31.44Tril_with a macro is that what you are saying?
17:31.45Firedancertekkub: is FuzzyLogic dead due to 2.0 or is it salvagable?
17:31.55Kirkburn|afkHmm, not I changed it back to !ClearFont, I'm not getting crashes on logout
17:32.01Kirkburn|afkWhat the hell is going on
17:32.16Tekkubit'll be salvageable if /click gets put in
17:32.28Tekkubbut I havn't heard if slouken managed to save that yet
17:32.28Firedancergotcha
17:32.37boller_Bartender3 won't change bars automatically now will it?  In combat anyway?
17:32.40Kirkburn|afkGraagh, this is so messed up
17:32.46FiredancerI keep clicking my old FL keybind but nothign happens lol
17:32.46Tekkubsame goes with moutme right now it's kinda in the air
17:34.09Kirkburn|afkOh wait
17:34.09andremaranyone else have trouble with FuBar_QuestsFu, and more specificly, Quixote-1.0?
17:34.09Tekkubyou can do the "all in one" macro but it won't rez pet if it's dead and despawned
17:34.09Kirkburn|afkI know what I did :P I didn't change the lua files when I moved the folder
17:34.09Firedancerquixote was fixed yesterday IIRC
17:34.10Laricstill problems with it
17:34.10andremarI just grabbed latest rev
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17:34.10Kirkburn|afkHow does one put a comment in a toc file?
17:34.10andremarand I get spammed once a second in BugGrabber
17:34.10cohwickTril_ /cast [target=target] Cleanse
17:34.10cohwickfor example...that works for me
17:34.10Firedancerhm. I don't get any quixote errors and i updated this morning
17:34.40oxmanDo you know a version of PerfectRaid for the 2.x ?
17:34.40Tekkub[target=target] is the default action...
17:34.40Laricyou get quizote errors when inviting ppl to group/raid
17:34.40cohwickyeah sure
17:34.46Kirkburn|afksbu, it appears the error was from referencing the wrong folder for the fonts :P
17:34.57Somanisomebody here who can help me with ag_uf?
17:35.08cohwickjust for the use in a macro... put [target=player] or something
17:35.12cohwickdunno what he wants to do
17:35.32navv_hmm aguf showing me in combat and having rage
17:35.34navv_after exiting AV
17:36.17Somaniwhen i set up the Width of the aguf-raidframes the Playernames are hidden, any idea?
17:36.23Somani(pls highlight me :D)
17:36.48Grollok anyone have any idea why my ag unitframes totally refuse to show up? i did the reset stuff etc
17:37.04Grolland no error messages etc either
17:37.26sbuKirkburn|afk: hmmmm
17:37.54Firedancerso many aguf problems...
17:38.02Grollheh yep :P
17:38.04Prophydid anyone get really low FPS last night when raiding?  normal (outside of raid) was about 30fps while in raid it was 8-12fps??
17:38.17Kirkburn|afklol, and here's me using ag_UF without any problems whatsoever ...
17:38.30navv_only one problem that i have seen
17:38.34navv_which is a minor one!
17:38.34cohwickmine are working quite fine too
17:38.50Prophyprob with aguf u can't "Ungroup" ppl in your party
17:38.54Kirkburn|afksbu, I can't get the error again now that I fixed the filepaths
17:39.11Kirkburn|afkProphy, addon blocked?
17:39.14Prophyaguf doesn't give u the option to make all the party members horiztal
17:39.27Prophyinstead of display
17:39.42Prophyinstead of vertically i mean lol
17:39.46Kirkburn|afkWhat do you mean? You wish to move the party frames individually?
17:39.53Prophyyes
17:39.57oxmanDo you know a version of PerfectRaid for the 2.x ?
17:40.00Prophyu were able to do that in the past
17:40.02Prophybefore 2.0
17:40.02Kirkburn|afkEr, I can do that.
17:40.10Prophywhich version of aguf?
17:40.14Kirkburn|afkLatest
17:40.22Kirkburn|afkI just unlock the frames and drag them around
17:40.33Prophythe "party" frame?
17:40.40Kirkburn|afkYep
17:40.48Kirkburn|afkAt least, I thought I did
17:40.59Kirkburn|afkEarlier in the beta I certainly could
17:40.59cohwickparty frame is grouped
17:41.16Prophyyes before 2.0 therse an option "Group" ungroup, etc
17:41.24Prophynow party frame is always "grouped"
17:41.34Prophythe option isn't there
17:41.36evlHave they changed UnitExists ?
17:41.39Kirkburn|afkOdd :(
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17:43.31oxmanUNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT arg4 is nil on a corpse ='(
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17:44.02Barbanusman everyone bitching about ctra freezing, and the blizz ui sucking, they need to l2ora2 and grid or sraidframes
17:44.53oxmanor perfectraid
17:44.53oxman:'(
17:44.57Barbanusmy raid UI was perfect in naxx last night, had clickcasting from clique, all good
17:45.26boller_why don't you let them know about heaven then?
17:45.35Prophyanyone notice fps lag from SWStats ??
17:45.49BarbanusProphy its not from swstats, its a bug in the client, disable your sound.
17:45.52BarbanusI'm not even kidding
17:46.06oxmanI want perfectraid :'(
17:46.17pastamancerBarbanus speaks the truth
17:46.17Prophyso disabling sound will fix the fps lag?
17:46.23Barbanusyes.
17:46.28AntiarcOdd.
17:46.30AntiarcAnd annoying.
17:46.31Prophyinteresting!
17:46.33Barbanusvery odd
17:46.40Barbanusbut you get a BONUS!
17:46.44BarbanusNo clicking noise!!
17:46.45Prophywell no sound = NO aggro alerter lol
17:46.51CIA-1703neriak * r19500 10Fence/ (Core.lua modules/Fence_Clicks.lua): Fence: - fixed hooks, everything is working fine again.
17:47.03AntiarcTarget of Target?
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17:47.23Prophya sound noise helps alot! faster reaction times =)
17:47.26Firedanceri noticed that the buggy font stuff was back (at least for me)...anything over 1xAA makes my fonts look underlined...hasn't been like that in a long time :(
17:47.38benjdrguys, using grid, and layout by class
17:47.46benjdrmy grid does 9 rows
17:47.51AntiarcFiredancer: Same here.
17:47.55benjdr4 then a gap, then 4 again
17:47.59Prophyjust so happens i could be looking at my "debuff" area so not always looking at TOT...with sound aggro alert = fast reaction time..
17:48.00benjdrwhy is this?
17:48.07Mikmanevcairiel: 9 classes exist?
17:48.33benjdrMikma: err 8 per faction?
17:48.34evlHave they changed the way WoW reports when a unit dies?
17:48.46evlI can't seem to get it to trigger so that my frames hide
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17:49.35AntiarcYou can't hide unit frames while in combat
17:49.37AntiarcIf that's what you mean
17:49.44zoomjrCorkFu not will be working in 2.0?
17:50.03Tekkubnot currently
17:50.09evlAntiarc: aha, so how would I proceed then
17:50.14evlI'd like my dead targets to show up as dead
17:50.27zoomjrsomethink with similar function ?
17:50.33Tekkubstill undecided as to the future of cork
17:50.43Antiarcevl: What kinds of unit frames are you using? Or are you writing your own?
17:50.52TekkubGrid with that missing buffs stuff
17:51.00Mikmabenjdr: well grid counts shamans/paladins as classes too
17:51.44benjdrMikma: ok so riht now my grid looks like, Warriors, Prists, Druids, Paladins, Gap, Mages Warlocks, Hunters, Rogues
17:52.01TinhayTekkub: There's a plugin that makes grid show _missing_ buffs?
17:52.01Prophyis anyone using Minnastats instead of SWStats ??
17:52.02Mikmabenjdr: the gap must be shamans then
17:52.09Tekkubyes
17:52.19benjdrbut doesn't it see that you are alliance and think there will be no shamans?
17:52.33Tekkub<PROTECTED>
17:52.53boller_i cant get aguf to disappear in a raid :-/
17:53.01evlAndalia: using oUF hacked into 2.0
17:53.14MikmaTinhay: gridstatusmissingbuffs
17:53.26Tekkubyea, even /files is bogging down now
17:53.31HjalteAnyone know of a working Sacredbuff alternative for priests?
17:53.34Tekkubcrack whores the whole lotta ya
17:53.44TekkubWAY to dependant on your mods
17:53.45nevcairielMikma: in beta 9 yeah, why?
17:53.57cohwickthats what autobar is giving me: http://ace.pastey.net/3186
17:54.30Dhragachowick, yes same error here
17:54.57cohwickat least :>
17:55.01DhragaAutoBar code http://pastey.net/3185
17:55.01Mikmanevcairiel: well grid doesn't know the difference between TBC/2.0, so it shows shamans for alliances and paladins for horde
17:55.03Firedanceryea I get that too, but it is a beta :P
17:55.05Tinhaysounds awesome, may i ask where i can find this plugin now that the forums are down? somewhere in the svn?
17:55.08Tekkubcohwick is too close to cowlick
17:55.20Tekkuband that bitch still owes me Galka RSE
17:55.22cohwickmooo!
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17:55.30Tekkubyou're bringing back bad old memories!
17:55.34cohwicksry :(
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17:56.43DhragaAnyone that can see anything wrong in this line itself ?local start, duration, enable = GetItemCooldown(GetContainerItemLink(bag, slot));
17:57.24sbuhmmm
17:57.42sbu0.5s lag every time someone switches raid-grp/joins grp/is on/offline/...
17:57.43sbu:/
17:57.50sbuand this annoying 'click' sound
17:58.02nevcairielthe click sound is a blizz "feature"
17:58.03nevcairiel:D
17:58.08Tekkubget a new mouse
17:58.09nevcairieldunno about the lag
17:58.14sbuTekkub: huh? :o
17:58.20Tekkubyou heard me
17:58.32Skyboatproblem in RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE it seems
17:58.42JensWTB: GroupFu update.
17:58.43sbuhmm same with guild on/offline
17:58.43Skyboatrunning tekSupport and it takes 300-500ms per fire
18:00.11benjdrcan someone tell me the latest release of Grid please
18:00.11CIA-1703nevcairiel * r19501 10Bartender3/libs/: Bartender3: cleaned externals
18:00.19Skyboatbtw, do shamans and paladins get their own class colour in BC? xD
18:00.27nevcairielyeah
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18:00.38Skyboatso which got to keep the pink?
18:00.41nevcairielpaladins keep theirs
18:00.45Skyboathaha
18:00.46Firedancerlol
18:00.46SkyboatI knew it!
18:01.08kebinusanShaman get teal
18:01.14nevcairieland shamans get some Turquoise
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18:01.33AKXWhyyyy~~~ can't CastSpellByName work out of combat :[
18:02.08MikmaAKX: because you need to code DreamChat
18:02.08ggilbertAKX: I feel your pain :)
18:02.08AKXfu.
18:02.08oxmanah ah
18:02.08oxmanxD
18:02.13kebinusanhmm someone telling me thaddius_arrows doesnt work in 2.0 I guess I need to take a look at it :-/
18:02.26AKXggilbert - so much for my autobuff replacement script. FUCKERS.
18:02.44nevcairielkebinusan: tell them to l2p and only use default bigwigs messages
18:02.47AntiarcIt's times like this that I'm grateful I play a rogue.
18:02.54AntiarcNo buffs, portals, or anything like that to worry about.
18:02.56AntiarcI just stab stuff.
18:02.56kebinusanheh
18:03.20ggilbertAntiarc: Yeah, for the moment I have an extra 18 or so action buttons until I can figure out how to replace them
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18:03.36AntiarcI am making very extensive use of SetBindingSpell and SetBindingItem
18:03.36kebinusannew mod: take two post it notes, stick them on the sides of your monitor...
18:04.49Worfkebinusan: if blizz will detect that, you'll be in big trouble, because you use 3rd party apps for that mod ...
18:04.53sbuewww
18:05.09AntiarcATTN: Unauthorized attachments to monitor space.
18:05.10ggilbertAntiarc: For?
18:05.12AntiarcYour account has been terminated.
18:05.20Antiarcggilbert: All my skills and commonly-used items
18:05.26AntiarcI have -very- little bound through action buttons.
18:05.32ggilbertAntiarc: Ah, not binding them onto action buttons?
18:05.35AntiarcCorrect.
18:05.57ggilbertI was tempted to do that, but it would leave me high and dry if I needed to click on one :p
18:06.19ggilbertso I'm not sure.
18:06.21kebinusanso you cant do any frame moving, you can just show/hide and adjust the alpha in combat?
18:06.41kebinusanI totally havent looked at any of these changes
18:06.51Antiarckebinusan: You can't show/hide
18:06.56AntiarcBut you can adjust the alpha.
18:07.15kebinusanisnt alpha=0 the same as hiding
18:07.15nevcairielyou can move/hide/show normal frames
18:07.22AntiarcNo, a hidden frame isn't clickable
18:07.25nevcairieljust not Buttons or CheckButtons
18:07.28AntiarcAn alpha=0 frame is still clickable
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18:07.40VII|Beheritis server down`?
18:07.43kebinusanoh, well wtf the stupid arrow frame isnt interactive
18:07.57kebinusanI guess I'll have to login and let a wolf beat on me and test things
18:08.04AntiarcHahah, yes.
18:08.11ggilbertIs it not possible to hide a button at all in combat or just not through certain code paths?
18:08.15nevcairielthats what i do all the time
18:08.15nevcairiel:)
18:08.22AntiarcYou can't hide buttons in combat, I believe.
18:08.36AntiarcI suspect you can if Blizzard does it in protected code
18:08.43nevcairielBasicly you cannot, with like one or two exceptions
18:08.51AntiarcBut anything from a tainted code path ain't happening, which basically means anything you invoke.
18:08.55ggilbertBlizzard is trying to confuse the hell out of me. Seems like they were saying one thing and we ended up with something else :)
18:09.03Icerothholy fuck.. 1 mob and i'm getting 70kb/s increase rate in raid :s
18:09.27kebinusanIceroth, yeah theres some funky mojo going on.. does that happen with your addons disabled?
18:09.49FtH|eagleMy highest in the raid was 350 kb/s
18:09.52Barbanuslooks like wowace.com is totally down now :(
18:10.03Icerothhaven't tried
18:10.03SachsI had 150KiB/s increasing rate at one point. :/
18:10.08HjalteAnyone associated with Grid online?
18:10.38BarbanusIceroth, disable your sound
18:10.41Barbanusdoes it still happen?
18:11.02Barbanusthere is HUGGGGE fps and memory issues with sound enabled in a raid right now
18:11.04boller_Anyway of accessing grid plugins?
18:11.13Barbanusdisabled sound in naxx last night ... it was all good.
18:11.26Icerothmeh, still getting 20kb/s increase even though we are doing nothing
18:12.14FtH|eaglesee aura was going crazy with memory increase when I checked it
18:12.17AKXSeriously... Whyyyyyyyy can't CastSpellByName work out-of-combat...
18:12.22pb_ee1Iceroth: Did you try Ctrl+Alt+Del? (;p)
18:12.35AKXAlternately, gief us automatic self-buffing, Blizzard...
18:12.49pb_ee1AKX: Check your Interface Optiosn
18:12.54SachsAKX, what'cha need CastSpellByName for?
18:13.22pb_ee1AKX: There is a automatic self-buffing function in the Interface Options
18:13.23AKXSachs, I've a whispercast style script I've written, and also I just wrote a little something that'd replace the venerable AutoBuff addon. Alas, no luck.
18:13.31AKXpb_ee1, i'll check that.
18:15.50kebinusanIceroth, with or without your mods loaded
18:15.54Icerothwith mods
18:16.07SachsAwww.. WAU's been running for 3 hours now trying to update my mods, it's halfway through the FuBar list.
18:16.11Iceroth2300 times addon_action_blocked msg :s
18:16.24kebinusanhmm
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18:16.46kebinusanseems like quite a few
18:17.08Kemayoandremar: What was the quixote error?  (I can't do much without it...)
18:17.09Barbanuspb_ee1, you mean selfcast?
18:17.16Barbanusthats not what he means I dont think
18:17.34Icerothargh, and now bt3 giving the "blizz doesn't like you" box.. not really my day
18:17.52CranCranif I am writing an addon for WoW where I have graphical UI frames and such --- is there a way to restart the addon without logging on/off WoW or a way to test it offline or something?
18:17.53pb_ee1Barbanus: Yes, well I think, yes
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18:18.09AKXYeah pb_ee1, not that. I mean, I had AutoBuff which would automatically cast buffs I lacked on me when I changed targets
18:18.09BarbanusCranCran /console reloadui
18:18.24kebinusanIceroth, I havent seen one of those yet
18:18.27CranCranThat's the only option barbanus is to reload the ui  ...
18:18.31pb_ee1AKX: Aha, my bad then, it was not what I meant :/
18:18.36GtyrteShould I use ag_UnitFrames-r19453[TBC].zip  or ag_UnitFrames-r19013.zip ?
18:18.41BarbanusCranCran afaik, yea
18:19.00IcerothspecialEvents-aura-2.0 fired now 900 times, 3777kb mem, 900ms taken :s
18:19.13CranCranGreat thanks!
18:19.18BarbanusGtyrte, those both look old....
18:19.44SachsGtyrte, 19013!
18:19.57GtyrteThanks =)
18:20.00Sachs'Cause it's almost the Beverly Hills zip code..
18:20.08Barbanusrofl
18:20.29KemayoFisker: That QuestsFu error is because you have old tabletlib getting loaded somewhere.  It's a pain.  -_-
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18:20.53FtH|eagleIceroth: that's what I said, but there has to be something else, in this time where see aura took about 2-3 mb, I got about 6 mb more
18:21.27CranCranOne more question guys and I'll be outta your hair :) ---  Anyone have any parser for the SV .lua files that I can use C/C++ to generate reports & such for my guild
18:21.34TheKarnhow would i go about modifying a fontstring on the new honor page?
18:21.34sbuWTB RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE fix :/
18:21.51Sachssbu, que?
18:22.04sbu18:58] «Skyboat» running tekSupport and it takes 300-500ms per fire
18:22.35aE|neXterbtw, any chance of a 2.0 compliant Buffalo version?
18:22.36Skyboathe's right
18:22.44Skyboatthere's something SERIOUSLY wrong with that event
18:22.54Skyboatwhatever the hell Blizzard did in 2.0, they need a slap
18:22.55GtyrteBarbanus, was the two newest ones I found on wowace.com/files
18:23.12kebinusanwell someone intelligent post something about it on the ui forums
18:23.16kebinusanmaybe it'll help
18:23.22Skyboatbest workaround I've found so far is to disable all addons that use RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE
18:23.28Skyboateven Blizzard_RaidUI with MCP
18:23.39sbuSkyboat: err i cant remove sRaidFrames :p
18:23.39hasteSkyboat: Tekkub fixed tekSupport's OnUpdate yet?
18:23.46Tekkubyes
18:23.53pastamancersbu: RRU fix?
18:24.05sbuhmm
18:24.06sbuUpdate 3: (4:45pm PST) CT_RaidAssist has been updated with a fix that reduces some of the lag experienced on raid group changes.
18:24.13sbuthey found some workaround i guess
18:24.23kebinusanquick some diff the code
18:24.28kebinusan*someone
18:24.29CranCranthat's awesome news sbu
18:25.25nevcairielsbu: did you run CTRA when that lag appeard?
18:25.29Skyboatsbu: I'm running that version, and nothing changed whasoever
18:25.50Barbanushahaha
18:25.55Barbanussbu, it sucks still
18:26.06CranCranI used the CTRA version last night in MC and the UI would not update fast enough for healers to see that people needing healing before they were dead.
18:26.11BarbanusI had no issues with sRaidFrames tho
18:26.26CranCranHad to swap to the normal WoW UI raid interface to view and handle healing, was very akward for our healers :(
18:27.18CranCranAlso found that CTRA would show lilke 16% yet you target the person and look at WoW UI and they were already dead.   Took about 30s before the UI updated to reflect that particular raid member was indeed dead :(
18:27.19andremaranyone know of a way in a macro to figure out if you have a focus or not? I want to set the current target as focus if I dont have one, and cast polymorph if I have one
18:27.21BarbanussRaidFrames + oRA2 = no freezing for me :)
18:27.58Skyboatare you running BigWigs or any other raid-based addons?
18:28.04CranCranAs a priest, I have been very partial to ClickHeal addon; however still waiting for a 2.0 compliant release -- /cry
18:28.11thalieuse clique
18:28.27SachsCranCran, yeah, half our raid had to disable CTRA and play without it.
18:28.49CranCranI used that last night and it was good except for the issues with CTRA.   When we stopped and swapped to WoW UI raid boxes to avoid the lag, Clique was good for what we needed to get through the night, but was tough
18:29.16evlhaste: any ETA on the new oUF?
18:29.22steev64is there a way to turn off the show group names with sRaidFrames?
18:29.40hasteevl: +5h, *waves hello to the raid*
18:29.56TheKarnanyone got outfitterfu working?
18:30.02thaliehow many lines left haste ;)
18:30.19hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/ui/07122006.png << progress tho'!
18:30.25Mikmahaste: oh yea, /me waves goodbye for haste's raid
18:30.38Skyboatbtw Tekkub
18:30.47benjdrthat looks good haste
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18:31.01Skyboatis there an easier way to load tekSupport than my current method (which is loading it through MCP)?
18:31.11JensWTB: Working otravi_CastingBar.
18:31.16TekkubSupplyAndDemand :P
18:31.17Funkeh`hey all
18:31.17KarlThePaganTheKarn I was able to download the new outfitter from curse-gaming.com and as it seems noone is working on it I'll take a poke
18:31.18thalieit works fine jens
18:31.18CranCranany developers here ?
18:31.20hasteJens: oCB WORKS, so S T F U
18:31.28hasteJens: just that the zip script SUCKS
18:31.29thalienonnono haste
18:31.32JensHmm...
18:31.32thalie"die in a fire"
18:31.34thaliecome on
18:31.34andremardamn, this BT3 not showing my keybindings is driving me nuts :p
18:31.40andremaranyone know an easy fix?
18:31.47SachsJens, don't use otravi_CastingBar., use oCB. ;P
18:31.51kebinusanget some clear tape...
18:31.55Mikmaandremar: bind some keys
18:32.01Funkeh`andremar: are you hitting enter after you set the keybinding?
18:32.05SkyboatoCB is still buggy, if you are taking damage whilst channeling a spell, the bar disappears
18:32.07thalieor a felt tip, keb?  ;)
18:32.11Skyboatworks fine if you aren't getting hit though
18:32.19TheKarnKarlThePagan: its using the old AceHook afaik
18:32.21hasteSkyboat: well, I can't fix what I don't know is broken
18:32.25steev64Skyboat: so don't get hit :-P
18:32.29KarlThePagank starting with that
18:32.37Funkeh`when you set a keybinding in the menu you MUST hit enter
18:32.56Skyboatwas doing some testing in Silithus, and my findings were pretty consistent
18:32.58kebinusanmikma, well I have keybindings on my buttons.. they just arent what theys are actually bound to... like bar1 shows 7, 8, 9, 0 when its shift 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
18:33.03Skyboatas soon as you take damage when channeling, byebye ocB
18:33.12andremarMikma: I have, using the standard bars buttons
18:33.17andremarthey all work, just dont show up
18:33.17Barbanuslol its funny, people complain about mods, and they forget the author may be in here .. and they could just report the problem :P
18:33.19hasteSkyboat: well, thank you for notifying me before you whine
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18:33.23andremarkebinusan: not a bad idea :p
18:33.28CIA-1703otravi * r19502 10oCB/core/casting.lua: oCB - touchy touchy.
18:33.34Kirkburn|afkgnorlish, my ClearFont folder is now 16.9 MB :D
18:33.45Barbanusrofl @ commit message
18:33.46Funkeh`guys, please instead of spamming the channel msg the author with what you think is a bug
18:33.54kebinusanoh, but I kind of just figured that out
18:34.00Skyboatmmm wasn't really a whine, just an observation :)
18:34.01Funkeh`discuss it with them instead of just flooding this channel
18:34.03Mikmahaste: that otravi-guy sucks ass
18:34.16kebinusanit seems the key bindings for action button 1-12 override the text display of the actual key bindings on the bt bar
18:34.17Kirkburn|afkBarbanus, people keep doing that with me :P
18:34.20Mikmahaste: from the commit-messages it appears that he's gay and proud of it
18:34.29Azurewrath212 users.. haha
18:34.30Icerothi'm getting spammed with bt3 action blocked msges :s
18:34.40Funkeh`Azurewrath: its nuts
18:35.01BarbanusKirkburn|afk, haha yea
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18:35.21Kirkburn|afkhaste, sorry I would have mentioned the oCB channelling issue to you, but I thought it was known :(
18:35.37hasteright now, I thought oCB was completly bug free
18:35.42hasteand I thought so for the past days
18:35.45Kirkburn|afkheh
18:35.52hasteand least after the enemy channel bug was fixed
18:36.02hastethat's the only bug I known about since the TBC version was committed
18:36.05Kirkburn|afkWas your "touchy touchy" a possible fix for it?
18:36.24hasteno
18:36.32hasteit just bumps it for the zip script
18:36.37hastehopefully it was all zipped this time
18:36.38slider_is it intentional atm that you cannot disable oRA's maintank target (of target)?
18:36.41evlhaste: only bug with the old one is that i can't get it to hide when people die :P
18:36.42Kirkburn|afkI'll make sure to report *anything* else I find, hopefully nothing :)
18:36.59Kirkburn|afkevl, oCB or oCD?
18:37.08evloUF
18:37.23Kirkburn|afkOh well, I'll shush then :P
18:37.30GoeboCD doesnt' wanna show cooldowns for me anymore... it shows everything as a 1.5s global cooldown
18:37.31hasteevl: that I haven't experienced either!
18:37.44hasteGoeb: what action bar do you use?
18:37.47steev64(i'd like to report this issue, I just don't know which addon it is in) - every time i load out of a bg, i get a message box that simply says "C Stack Overflow"
18:37.49Goebbongos
18:37.52Goeband omnicc
18:38.15evlhaste: wierd, it seems it just doesn't register whne stuff dies :D
18:38.16Kirkburn|afkhaste, there was one thing regarding oCD - it stopped showing pet cooldowns - intentional?
18:38.16Funkeh`steev64: install buggrabber
18:38.21phyberI hope Tuller fixes this bullshit vBagnon and adds a mode that's like the old one
18:38.22Funkeh`get a real bug report
18:38.24Funkeh`and paste it
18:38.26phyberbecause this currently sucks ass.
18:38.39steev64Funkeh`: works for me
18:38.40LLoydBateswtb: update for FuBar_ReagentFu :\
18:38.42Kirkburn|afkphyber, there IS a mode like the last one
18:38.47Goebphyber- there is ...
18:38.48Arrowmasterphyber: modify the catagorys and add a new one with "all" checked
18:38.54Tekkubphyber... just make a single all items categry
18:39.02Goebjust delete all the catagories and make "all"
18:39.03phyberand it will put them in the order of the bags?
18:39.07Goebyeah, that they said
18:39.10Arrowmasteryou dont have to delete the old ones
18:39.20Arrowmasteryes
18:39.21Goebyou don't have to, but if you don't wanna look at them :)
18:39.24Tekkubyea you can just turn off the old ones
18:39.26Kirkburn|afkphyber, you just managed to do exactly what everyone was complaining about :P Whine before asking ...
18:39.30leech2kporting dgks to 2.0 pretty just involced editing the toc
18:39.30hasteKirkburn|afk: no, it isn't - raid now tho', and then oUF time
18:39.41Kirkburn|afkkk :)
18:39.50toddhaste, what do you use for your blue reputation bar thing? :o
18:39.52Arrowmasteri made a new catagory called "All" and checked all, then swaped it with "Items", and deleted "Empty Bags" and "Items"
18:39.54phyberKirkburn|afk: I do that with retarded defaults.  I also hate the green that he chose ;)
18:39.57Goebhaste- anything I should try to narrow it down?  
18:40.05Kirkburn|afkThen bloody well change it :P
18:40.08benjdrAnyone running Bartender3 + cyCircled?
18:40.09phyberWTB colour change plx!"
18:40.11hastetodd: Fubar_FuXPFu
18:40.14hasteGoeb: what down?
18:40.29Goebhaste- the ocd thing... you asked about which bars like you were on to something ;)
18:40.31Kirkburn|afkphyber, er, you *do* know you can change it, right?
18:40.35toddthanks :)
18:40.37zoktaranyone know whats up with that single map button in topright corner ?
18:40.40hasteGoeb: oh yeah, lot happening at once here :p
18:41.06zoktarbenjdr me
18:41.09phyberKirkburn|afk: yes ;)
18:41.11Goebnothing like a little insanity to put the rest of the world in perspective
18:41.14Arrowmasterzoktar, blizz removed the map button from the menubar
18:41.16Kirkburn|afkphyber, phew =)
18:41.21Arrowmasterso they added the minimap icon
18:41.23zoktarwell mines back
18:41.23pastamancerfyi, I have a mirror of the 2.0 compatible addons (just checking toc version) from /files http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/  .  The externals are kinda bludgeoned into place, but there isn't a zip if it couldn't find all of the libs
18:41.25zoktari wanna get rid of it!
18:41.33hasteGoeb: Bongos might have changed something for TBC compbat, that might have broken the support
18:41.37CIA-1703kergoth * r19503 10GonffBar/GonffBar.toc: GonffBar: remove silly '- Ace' from the addon description.
18:41.43Kirkburn|afkAn unmovable map icon, so far as I've noticed
18:41.54zoktarArrowmaster owh, so wait till squeenix has support for it then ?
18:42.03Arrowmasteri guess
18:42.27Barbanussqueenix will allow you to hide it
18:42.35Barbanusin the current version
18:42.48Goebhaste- I'll fiddle...
18:42.50Kirkburn|afkIt does? Argh, news to me
18:42.58TheKarn/script MiniMapWorldMapButton:Hide()
18:43.19Barbanusits in the squeenix options, like "hide world map button" or something
18:43.30Kirkburn|afkCoolio
18:43.31Icerothok, addons disabled, lag gone
18:43.45Iceroth<- sad panda
18:43.52Amadeoyeah
18:43.55CIA-1703kergoth * r19504 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar: use db.profile, not db.char.
18:43.56Goebice- put em back one at a time :)  
18:44.01axxoclicking a spell in my spellbook is making it block ace2 /me tries to figure out what addon that could be
18:44.01Amadeoaddons are screwed now :(
18:44.01Icerothyeah :s
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18:44.04Iceroththat's the sad part
18:44.05Goeband for every addon that drops your fps, you have to drink a shot
18:44.13thaliedamn, i'd be wasted
18:44.13Chrizohow can I reset ora maintank frame position?
18:44.28Tril_was oUF updated yet?
18:44.36thalieNO
18:44.41Goebchrizo- tyle /ora and look for the option to reset it
18:44.41Tril_ok just checking
18:44.45Tril_i know he is working on it
18:44.46Funkeh`if the toc is not at 20000 then probably no
18:44.47Bapsgoeb: i'm out of booze
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18:44.59Barbanusaxxo, do you use clique?
18:45.00thalieleave haste alone, except if it's to make jokes at his expense
18:45.05Goebbaps- peapod delivers!
18:45.16axxoBarbanus: possible, i'll disable it
18:45.35Barbanusor update it :) I think the first release after 2.0 had that problem for me
18:45.36ny_workdoes anyone know if timex works with wow 2.0, or is there an alternative i should use when developing my mod?
18:45.50Eternally777Metrognome?
18:45.52Goebmetrognome!
18:45.53Bapsit's amazing.. even with all of the mod sites putting massive bandwidth and mirrors up.. they're all totally hosed two days after tha patch
18:46.08axxoBarbanus: nope, allready disabled
18:46.21ny_workok, figured that there was something but its hard to find something like that when the addon sites are so hosed
18:46.23Goebbaps- 7 million people downloading addons... many of them downloading them over and over again trying to get newer and newer versions
18:46.45Bapsyeah.  I know.  makes a slashdotting or a digging look like child's play
18:46.56Barbanushaha, yea
18:46.58Goebaddons should be pushed out, not polled like that...
18:47.06Amadeonot all 7 million players in WoW even use addons :)
18:47.10thaliethat would be far too logical goeb
18:47.19Bapsit'd be damn hard
18:47.27GoebI don't care :) they're rich...
18:47.29Elkano\o/ it was just the fitrst time that an EBB_BarGroup has been draged around :)
18:47.33Skyboatsome kind of peer-to-peer network for addons, would be handy :)
18:47.35Goebif I can figure it out, they certainly can ;)
18:47.55Bapsgoeb: they don't care.   addon's aren't their problem.  =)
18:48.01Tekkubhttp://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20061207.html
18:48.02Goebsky- hm.... make winaceupdater a torrent thang?
18:48.11Laricanyone know what is causing that 'tick' noise when someone joins a raid?
18:48.14thalie\o/ elk
18:48.24CIA-1703kergoth * r19505 10GonffBar/ (6 files in 3 dirs): GonffBar: Kill remnant semicolons. Use SurfaceLib for managing the bar texture.
18:48.30Goeblaric- the blizzard default frame does it :)
18:48.32BarbanusLaric, an annoying bug blizzard put in
18:48.33Elkanobut it still looks crap :/
18:48.39kebinusanIs there a simple mod to pop up in sct/msbt when an ability has cooled down?
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18:49.09Goebkeb- itemrack has that functionality...
18:49.18GoebI think...
18:49.21kebinusanfor trinkets, but I mean like frostnova and such
18:49.21Eternally777Goeb, haha, that's actually not a bad idea.  Too bad that means people would complain about WAU as much as they complain about Blizz downloader
18:49.35BarbanusI think TrinketMenu has it too
18:49.37kebinusanLike just send a message to sct, frostnova ready
18:49.38Barbanusfor trinket cooldowns
18:49.40Goebyeah trinket menu
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18:49.49kergothhttp://kergoth.com:1980/images/wow_074.jpg - yay, no more ugly energy ticker :P
18:49.54Goebkeb- that's what it does
18:50.07kebinusan... but not for abilities
18:50.08Mahirohmm how can i remove the debuff textures in grid?
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18:50.15Goeband you can have it give you a 10 second warning for longer cooldowns
18:50.23thaliemahiro turn them off?
18:50.26Goebkeb- oh... right...
18:50.29Mikmakergoth: what version of MonkeyQuest is that? O_O
18:50.30thaliemorning ck
18:50.31SkyboatBlizz downloader is only sucky cos Blizzard made it, once you get the .torrent it uses and put it into your favourite torrent client (uTorrent <3) it goes way way faster
18:50.33ckknighthey all
18:50.42kergothkebinusan, i use oCD for my cooldowns myself.  there is a cooldown display to sct/msbt addon floating around too, though i dont recall what its called
18:50.45Goebthere was a cooldown mod... lesse... coolDown it was called?  maybe... old...
18:50.50benjdri was getting 200 off one seed the other day.
18:50.53Mikmackknight: hi boss
18:50.53leech2kso I want to click cast on agUF do I need another mod to do that?
18:50.56benjdrin the blizzard app i mean
18:51.03Goebleech- clique
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18:51.05thalieleech2k: try clique...
18:51.06leech2kkk
18:51.07kebinusanwell the main problem with the blizz torrent client is it doesnt leave the damn torrent open after its finished
18:51.08leech2kty
18:51.11kergothMikma, 2.4.3, with monkeyquesteui.. its a graphical interface to marsquestorganizer, so you can drag quests between groups and create custom ones and stuff
18:51.15Goebleech- off wowi
18:51.21thalieyea its not in the svn
18:51.24Mikmakergoth: that's neat
18:51.38hastenevcairiel: so, my actionbar doesn't change in combat now
18:51.39Barbanusclique needs to move to wowace!
18:51.46Goebit just moved off wowace
18:52.01hastenevcairiel: which kinda sucks as it's rather hard to ambush while unstealthed :p
18:52.17BarbanusGoeb, why? :(
18:52.28Goebit was all aceified... but clad got tired of having to update with every ace update
18:52.32Goebor something like that
18:52.39NerD|I got a question, on World Of Raid, we can this like " Increase your critical strike rating by XX ( XX% ) " Anyone got an idea about what addon give you the XX% :x ?
18:52.50ckknightGoeb, more complicated than that.
18:52.53ArrowmasterRatingBuster
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18:52.57Goebck- I'm sure it is :)
18:52.57benjdrcan someone remind me what ClosetGnomeis
18:52.57kebinusanNerD|, RatingBuster
18:52.59Bapsit's always more complicated
18:53.02NerD|We can this like = we can see things like thiss
18:53.04kergothratingbuster rocks
18:53.06NerD|Thanks :-)
18:53.13Arrowmasteryou can get it off of http://jax2.zenblue.net/wow2.0/?N=A if all the sites are still down
18:53.37Arrowmastertheres only one thing i think RatingBuster is missing if it doesnt have it already which i cant tell
18:53.51Fiskerlol?
18:54.00NerD|thalieanks :-)
18:54.01Fiskeryou can't view raidwindow when in combat?
18:54.02Arrowmastershow the %s for the min item level if its higher than your level
18:54.16benjdrcan someone remind me what ClosetGnome is?
18:54.22Bapsitemrack replacement
18:54.23Goebitemrack-like thing
18:54.41Goebhey now, It's my time to answer the easy questions :P
18:54.46benjdrso what does ClosetGnome_BigWigs do?
18:54.58Bapsbah.  I've got 5 minutes to waste while this builds
18:55.05Goeblinks with bigwigs to switch gear based on which boss you're about to fight
18:55.11benjdrah ok thanks
18:55.35BarbanusGoeb, you got one!
18:55.42GoebI feel special
18:55.43pastamancersomeone should write Grid_BigWigs ;)
18:55.51Goebto... do what?
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18:56.03pastamancerpick a saved profile
18:56.06Goebhmmmm
18:56.10Bapslayouts
18:56.11Bapshmm.
18:56.34leech2kis wowi down?
18:56.42pastamancerit would be easiest to just load an entire profile
18:56.43Bapsthey're all dying
18:56.50Goebyeah, makes sense...
18:56.50leech2klol
18:56.56nevcairielhaste: it doesnt ? :o
18:56.58Arrowmasterdoes closetgnome_bigwigs swap your gear after a bossmod is enabled?
18:57.06Goebyes
18:57.09hastenevcairiel: I just ambushed a spider in Naxx, and it didn't change
18:57.14Goebwhich isn't always the best time to do it :)
18:57.19Arrowmasteryeah really
18:57.21oxmanProximityLib can be improve a lots since 2.x, do you know how ?
18:57.37Arrowmasterafaik proximitylib is dead and unneeded
18:57.45hastenevcairiel: so I vanished, tried again - still didn't change
18:57.47oxmanwhy Arrowmaster ?
18:57.50nevcairielhaste: i have a lvl 2 rogue somewhere .. will try
18:57.52hasteit worked earlier today while poking some alliance tho'
18:57.58[Liquidor]How come ppl write 2.0.1 ? Has there been a minor patch already?
18:58.12Goebcuz that's what the patch notes said
18:58.12Arrowmasteroxman, it was listed as dead on one of the wiki pages along with compost
18:58.22nevcairielworks for my druid
18:58.33oxmanno new addon for range detection ?
18:58.39kergothmeh
18:58.41Arrowmasterits builtin
18:58.42haste[Liquidor]: it's 2.00.1 now
18:58.42kergothsomeone needs to fix antagonist
18:58.43kergothits hokey
18:58.45oxmanwith IsSpellInRange(spell, [unit]) we can do a nice library
18:58.51[Liquidor]haste: how come?
18:58.53lhunath[liquidor]: WoW-1.12.x-to-2.0.1-enGB-patch
18:58.59[Liquidor]Oh okay
18:59.00haste[Liquidor]: P T R
18:59.03[Liquidor]Didn't notice
18:59.05Tekkubbecause of IsSpellInRange we don't need a library
18:59.28Eternally777Is there an event that is triggered when a spell cooldown is finished?
18:59.39Arrowmastersvn out of sync
19:00.22CIA-1703phyber * r19506 10FuBar_GCInFu/GCInFu.lua:
19:00.22CIA-17FuBar_GCInFu:
19:00.22CIA-17- Now works correctly with WoW 2.0.
19:00.22CIA-17- Removed Threshold display, since threshold no longer exists.
19:00.27Icerothhmh.. only icehud, fubar and miniperfsfu running, boss fight, 0.2kb/s increase rate at max :|
19:00.35Icerothwtb numbers like that all the time :'(
19:00.43oxmanBut read that : We can make a library that read all your spells in book, take each range of spell, make an array with each different range, the library return the array with range/spellname, so an addon can have many range selection
19:00.45JakobudMan ag_uf was whacked out last night, can't wait for some good fixes
19:01.08hastenevcairiel: hmm, looks like there is some tainting going on here
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19:01.40KarlThePagan~seen Ruinna
19:02.05purlruinna <n=chatzill@c-71-206-215-191.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 49d 11h 15m 33s ago, saying: 'a friend of mine worked at a dolfin fertility clinic. did you know dolphin's have prehensile penises? they can wrap them around your arm if they like... amazing'.
19:02.05pastamanceroxman: I already wrote something like  that for grid
19:02.10pastamancerfeel free to library-ify it
19:02.15thalielol, purl
19:02.34thalieno wonder ruinna never came back after that gem
19:03.08oxmanI see that pastamancer in code
19:03.08BarbanusROFL
19:03.11oxmanbut it seems don't work here
19:03.14oxman(on a french client)
19:03.15KarlThePaganalright then... I guess I'm taking responsibility for OutfitterFu
19:03.20oxmani see NOTHING about range ;/
19:04.34Gtyrtehmm I see a detox version posted on Detox.zip2006-Dec-05 15:02:44  does this work or?
19:04.40pastamanceroxman: ["(%d+) yd range"] = "port\195\169e de (%d+) m.", <-- does that translation look right?  should match the range display on the tooltip
19:04.48oxmanYep its look right
19:04.50pastamancerGtyrte: it's display-only, you can't click
19:04.56JakobudDetox works but it can't really do much except tell you who is poisoned
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19:05.33pastamanceroxman: then if you turn on debugging for 'GridRange' it should spit out a list of spells and ranges
19:05.47jaxdahl2probably been asked already, but what's with a bunch of the files missing libs?
19:05.49TheKarnhttp://ace.pastey.net/3189 <--- ace2 bug
19:06.50Grollanyone know the command to get the options up for that sct replacement?
19:07.03Skyboatok
19:07.03axxoanyone know how i turn the raid party moving click sound off?
19:07.04jaxdahl2msbt ?
19:07.08TheKarn/msbt
19:07.12Skyboatanyone else not getting target unitframe showing when in combat?
19:07.16Skyboatusing agUF
19:07.28KarlThePaganMSBT4 rocks
19:07.36Grollskyboat i dont get anything to show with aguf :P
19:07.39MikmaTheKarn: not ace2 bug, some bug from some addon
19:07.40oxmanpastamancer in fact, when i turn on "unitée trop éloignée" for central text
19:07.43Josh_Borkewhat is it again?
19:07.44oxmani see the OOR perfectly
19:07.48boller_KarlThePagan, what is msbt4?
19:07.49hastenevcairiel: It was warmup I think
19:07.55Grollthx for the command
19:07.55hastenevcairiel: it get's the blame at elast
19:07.56Skyboatbah
19:08.02KarlThePaganMSBT4 is a scrolling battle text addon
19:08.06oxmanbut i don't want that, i want the nickname colored, i've tick the "enable filter range" for unitname, but it seems don't work
19:08.11SkyboatBlizzard did a fucking good job breaking all the good mods in the patch, good fucking game
19:08.14boller_KarlThePagan, better than sct?
19:08.14jaxdahl2'mik's scrolling battle text 4'
19:08.39KarlThePaganMSBT4 http://stage6.divx.com/members/261578/videos/1050056
19:08.40Eternally777Sigh.. why do people keep making outbursts like that...
19:08.45Icerothoh, hell... it's grid causing the insane mem increase :s
19:08.57Eternally777Blizzard doesn't build the game around mods.  Mods are built around the game.
19:09.04KarlThePaganQQ ohnoes not Grid
19:09.06SachsIceroth, no way.
19:09.15TheKarngrid is royally borked atm
19:09.16KarlThePaganverify that with tekSupport
19:09.16SachsIceroth, I wasn't using Grid last night and I still had insane mem increase. ;P
19:09.24Icerothwell some of the libs then
19:09.37Icerothbut i enabled only grid and i'm getting 20-80kb easily
19:09.46nevcairielhaste: works again?
19:09.53hastenevcairiel: not sure, hope so tho' :p
19:09.59thaliewhy do people make outbursts?  because 2.0 is a mess maybe
19:10.13kebinusan2.0 isnt a mess
19:10.16pastamancerIceroth: yeah, grid and seea aren't using compost because the 2.0 GC should be able to handle that
19:10.21Eternally777Mods weren't ready for 2.0
19:10.33kebinusanmods will never be ready
19:10.36kebinusanpeople are lazy
19:10.41leech2kPTR up was forever but all the mod developers are still busy in nax lol
19:10.51Elkanolies!
19:10.55kebinusans/lazy/busy/
19:10.58Eternally777Sure, there might be a few bugs in the game itself, but 99.99% (repeating of course) of these issues are mod based.  Not Blizzard's fault.
19:11.26leech2knice leroy ref
19:11.29KarlThePaganwell pastamancer in my experience incremental garbage collection helps memory usage, but *sometimes* object pooling still helps
19:11.30kebinusanno no Eternally777 logic isnt allowed here
19:11.40benjdrwho said grid was borked?
19:11.43benjdrgrid is fine
19:11.45_icetrainHow do i sort ag_UnitFrames raid display classwise (without using one gruop / class)?
19:11.53benjdricetrain:
19:12.02benjdri couldnt work it out either
19:12.03benjdrin new version
19:12.11kebinusanIceroth, so make grid an seea use compost see if you notice a difference
19:12.14KarlThePaganunless Lua 5.1's concurrent garbage collection is a really good generational one (nursery, mature, aged object pools) it will still look like it's leaking
19:12.26KarlThePaganworth investigating imo
19:12.35pastamancerit's mark-and-sweep IIRC
19:12.40_icetrainbenjdr: ok not just me begin stupid then, thx :-)
19:13.02KarlThePaganyea generational or not?
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19:13.17pastamancerchecking
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19:14.11KarlThePaganpastamancer looks like some people call it "ephemeral gc"
19:14.23pastamancerhow nebulous :p
19:14.30KarlThePaganyea
19:14.39Tril_is there a way to get the raid status icon or color in a macro?
19:15.04TheKarnanyone know if theres a way to hide the BG scores? or move them
19:15.25KarlThePaganI think that the jvm i'm using does mark&sweep with generational so i don't think they're exclusive
19:15.35KarlThePagandepends on implementation certainly
19:16.02axxoany HUD that works?
19:16.06thalieicehud
19:16.22axxoexcellent, thanks
19:16.24KarlThePaganand Lua 5.1 is most deffenetly incremental GC, but not sure if it's concurrent (looks like it's not)
19:17.18pastamancerI'd be hard-pressed to call anything in lua concurrent
19:17.35LLoydBatesdid ag_UF stop honoring the "[] Group disabled in Raid" option from default interace? (ESC -> Interface -> 2nd tab -> raidstuff)
19:17.40KarlThePaganyea... I even wonder if Ace2 is reentrant
19:17.43KarlThePagansome of the libs
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19:18.17_icetrainLLoydBates: doesnt work for me either, had to hide the group frames
19:18.19jaxdahl2Tril_, in a macro?
19:18.37jaxdahl2how do you plan on using it?
19:18.40KarlThePaganyea I think that's a known issue with agUF
19:18.48LLoydBates_icetrain: that sucks, i want it in 5-man, but hidden in raid :U(
19:19.04pastamancerKarlThePagan: "uses a three-color algorithm"
19:19.09_icetrainLLoydBates: just /aguf config and enable/disable the party when you need it until it's fixed
19:19.25KarlThePaganpastamancer oh nice yea that sounds generational
19:19.25Tril_jax yes, i was hoping to do like >> Banishing <raid target> <<
19:19.27LLoydBates_icetrain: hmkay
19:19.55KarlThePaganpastamancer found a pdf... i'll let you know what i think
19:20.08jaxdahl2Tricksta_, %t still works fine
19:20.14wallenis there anyway to make a macro which orders your pet to follow you ? My old macro is not working anymore
19:20.20jaxdahl2er, directed to Tril_
19:20.21KarlThePaganit may be that the colors are just alive/queued/dead
19:20.23LLoydBates_icetrain: even doing that does not hide the frame oO
19:20.26Tril_i want raid target
19:20.26KarlThePaganand that's not generational
19:20.32jaxdahl2ah
19:20.35KirkburnWhat does FSR stand for in relation to a Regen mod?
19:20.41SachsFive Second Rule
19:20.47jaxdahl2raid target?
19:21.00Josh_BorkeKirkburn: you don't know the 5 second rule!
19:21.02Josh_BorkeZOMG!
19:21.05SachsMana doesn't regen for five seconds after a spellcast, within thos five seconds you're in the Five Second Rule. ;P
19:21.05jaxdahl2like.. the MA's target?
19:21.06Tril_yes raid target, ie., diamond, triangle, star etc
19:21.08Tril_raid target
19:21.09thaliehe might not be a priest
19:21.10thalie;)
19:21.12KarlThePaganoh oh pastamancer yea that's Djikstra's "three-color algorithm" governs object reachability not object age :/
19:21.16Josh_Borkei know about it as a paladin!
19:21.18_icetrainLLoydBates: oh? worked for me :)
19:21.21jaxdahl2Tril_, gotcha. i don't think so
19:21.35_icetrainwallen: /petfollow?
19:21.48wallenhaven't tried that one, will do, thanks
19:21.53Emliis the autobar author around? there's a problem with the latest toc
19:22.13jaxdahl2Tril_, most certainly possible in an addon though
19:22.17Josh_BorkeEmli: what sort of problem with the toc?
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19:22.46EmliJosh: its pointing at the wrong directories for the externals ... AceAddon instead of AceAddon-2.0
19:22.47KarlThePaganpastamancer I would recommend continuing to use compost for very short lived tables
19:22.54pastamancerI guess I'll commit the SEEA changes I have at home, to add back the mini-compost
19:22.55KarlThePaganreading lua 5.1 gc stuffs at http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/talks/novelties.pdf
19:22.58LLoydBates_icetrain: tried it 5 times .. finally worked oO
19:23.18Josh_BorkeKarlThePagan: i'd argue to not use compost but a home-brew solution
19:24.11KarlThePaganpasta et al - any tables which are going to have many references should probably not use compost and rely on Lua 5.1's gc
19:24.51KarlThePaganJosh_Borke because compost uses a ref-count and such? it is a little advanced for just pooling objects
19:25.28pastamancerSEEA does a good job of keeping its tables to itself
19:25.28carlawhat do I type to hide the map button?
19:25.28KarlThePaganmaybe a homebrew object pool could help
19:25.28KarlThePaganbut effort >> reuse
19:25.28Josh_Borke<PROTECTED>
19:25.42KarlThePaganckknight time for compost 2 maybe ^^
19:26.22Josh_BorkeKarlThePagan: ckknight didn't write compost, tekkub did
19:26.30KarlThePaganXD lol sry
19:26.39Tekkubbeen over all this long before the patch went out
19:26.48Tekkubcompost is depreciated
19:27.20KarlThePaganunderstandably... but in my experience object pooling is still needed with a non-generational GC
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19:27.53Tekkubin-game testing shows GC is cheaper than table erasing
19:27.55steev64is it a known issue about sRaidFrames not hiding the group names?
19:28.13KarlThePaganthat may be... time for a new library
19:28.18kergothTekkub, thinking PaintChipsLib needs a ListColors() method, for populating validate tables in aceoptions tables.  what do you think?
19:28.25Tekkuband SE-Aura will be reworked to not need tables
19:28.31kergothmeh, need caffeine
19:28.54Josh_Borkehow is a library going to be faster than table erasing?
19:28.55Tekkubpeople use paintchips?
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19:29.01pastamancerTekkub: I'd be interested to see SEEA without tables
19:29.09[DiE]Celebanyone know any raid addons that cause immense mem. increase? been doing ab etc. all day averaging ~1kb/s and getting 100 doing trash in naxx >.<
19:29.19Tekkubpasta, it'll happen when I get to it :)
19:29.47kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:29.47kergoth8
19:29.48KarlThePaganEclipse (Cosmos Visibility Options) gives me huge memory issues
19:29.53pastamancercare to share your thoughts on re-working the datastructures?
19:30.43KarlThePaganother than that not many addons that work with 2.0 are too bad in pve situations
19:30.50Tekkubbasically... loop over the old auras testing if they are still on the unit, erasing and firing events as you do... then loop thru the auras on the unit testing for new ones, fire as you go
19:31.06Tekkubsince the unit has aura query method isn't needed anymore
19:31.29Tekkubthe whole idea with the tables was to have valid state info before you fired the events
19:31.49Tekkubbut blizzy's provided us that
19:31.55chuckgag_UnitFrames-r19453[TBC].zipshould work in 2.0 now too right?
19:31.55pastamancerI'll take a look at it if you don't get aroudn to it first.
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19:31.59kergothhttp://ace.pastey.net/3191 useful little function
19:32.02chuckgNo point having a different branch?
19:32.16Eternally777Can anyone tell me why I'm getting the error: http://ace.pastey.net/3190
19:32.18pastamancerlast I checed, GetBuff(unit, "Spell Name") wasn't working, just GetBuff(unit, index)
19:32.26Eternally777I never had a problem doing that before
19:32.41snurrehaste: does OCB work atm?
19:32.45hastesnurre: should
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19:32.54hastesnurre: but the zip script didn't include all the externals
19:32.58snurre:(
19:32.58Tekkubsomething with names works, I'm using it in MountMe...
19:33.07Arrowmastereverybody should stop bugging haste and just test things themselves
19:33.18pastamancers/GetBuff/UnitBuff/
19:33.19snurrepfft, ill never stop bugging haste
19:33.23Emliocb works for me as of this morning
19:33.35chuckgDoes anyone know hte answer to the agUF question?
19:33.39chuckgWhy is there a [TBC] branch still?
19:33.41Tekkuberm... the mountme on my laptop, lemme go get it
19:33.49KarlThePaganis there a commit policy about externals - same commit as code or separate?
19:33.51nymbiachuckg: no idea, who did the commit?
19:34.05chuckgI'm not braving the SVN changelog.
19:34.11chuckgLet me wait till I get a file list.
19:34.12chuckgD=
19:35.02paranoidiis GiveMasterLoot now secure function? ;P
19:35.04Eternally777Why would it error when I attempt to access a userdata value like it was a table?
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19:35.25CartasHm...
19:35.25KarlThePaganEternally777 needs pairs(table)
19:35.35CartasAre there any unitframes which fully work for WoW atm? (Besides the default ones)
19:35.51Arrowmasternothing in wow fully works anymore
19:35.51Gnarfozag_UnitFrames do fine
19:35.55thaxorag_UnitFrames were working fine for me
19:35.56CartasThey do? :O
19:36.01CartasThe buffs are always wrong...
19:36.02chuckgI get errors..
19:36.04steev64work fine here
19:36.07KarlThePaganEternally777 oh wait... that's an iterator my bad
19:36.07chuckgIn raids.
19:36.18steev64oh yeah buffs
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19:36.24Eternally777KarlThePagan: yeah, that just skips calling the pairs() function
19:36.27steev64i figured it was just WoW itself that was buggy wrt buffs
19:36.29chuckgAnd I still can't figure out what's going on w/ C Stack Overflow everytime I leavea  BG.
19:36.29Emliis there an easy way to replace AssistByName() or do you have to do it with an attached secure frame now?
19:36.45CartasIf I target someone, and they show the Inner Fire buff, if I move to another player who isn't a priest, it'll show that they have inner fire...
19:36.45HjalteEternally777: I'm getting lots of errors when trying the latest rev of Sacredbuff :(
19:36.46steev64chuckg: im working on looking that up now (i think its sRaidFrames)
19:36.59chuckgI don't have sraidframes.
19:36.59CartasSo... no unitframes work apart from the default then? :'(
19:37.03Arrowmastersteev64, it isnt
19:37.15Eternally777Hjalte: Yeah, the last time I uploaded was pre-patch
19:37.19steev64then ora2 or bigwig
19:37.23Eternally777I hope to have a working copy out by this afternoon though.
19:37.25abbatMikma!
19:37.27Arrowmasterim getting it too, it has something to do with the battlefieldminimap
19:37.34Mikmaabbat: monkey!
19:37.36Josh_BorkeEternally777: are you sure f isn't just a frame and that it has table data in it?
19:37.46abbatMikma, i setup and tune bt3 ;) Now you love me? :)
19:37.58chuckgHmm.
19:38.00pastamancerTekkub: back in 10, let me know what function that was
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19:38.13Barbanusclique used to automatically ressurect people when you tried to cast anything on them and they were dead, does anyone know if this is still possible to do?
19:38.23Josh_BorkeBarbanus: while out of combat
19:38.33TekkubGetPlayerBuffName(BS["Ghost Wolf"])
19:38.34Eternally777Josh_Borke: 'f' is a frame.  But f.icon is the texture :\
19:38.35NerD|How to move Player Traget Frame with oRA 2 o_O ?
19:38.36steev64well, hopefully, a few more minutes and ill get something from BugGrabber
19:38.37Tekkubpastamancer, :P
19:38.42Mikmaabbat: no. you're a discordfanboi
19:38.52NerD|I've tried everything, nothing is working :s
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19:39.01abbatergh ;(
19:39.03BarbanusJosh_Borke I tried to find an option for it last night, and I couldnt :(  Perhaps the feature hasnt been re-coded back in
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19:39.20Barbanusor, I'm an idiot
19:39.24BarbanusThats highly likely too
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19:39.51Gnarfozis Cartographer with Cartographer_Herbalism a suitable stand-in replacement for Gatherer until Gatherer is updated?
19:40.10Josh_BorkeBarbanus: not sure exactly
19:40.12abbatbt3 configuration much better then trinity ;)
19:40.28Josh_BorkeEternally777: pastecode you f creation code
19:40.32gix_is there a way to invert an indicator in grid? so you can show a border for example if someone is *missing* a buff, not if someone has it.
19:40.50KarlThePagangix_ there's a Grid plugin for that
19:40.51cohuuse GridStatusMissingBuffs
19:40.56KarlThePagan^^
19:41.14sbubaaahh
19:41.16sbuunplayable
19:41.16sbuin raid
19:41.19sbuwith that lag thing :/
19:41.19abbatok. now time to test UI in real mode. /me going to pvp
19:41.26sbuplayer dead -> lag
19:41.45abbatAh, forget to say. Grid icon is pretty nice ;)
19:41.48steev64well, since i am using !BugGrabber, its not popped up the error once
19:41.53Eternally777Josh_Borke: http://ace.pastey.net/3194
19:42.18steev64oh i secc
19:42.21steev64see*
19:42.22gix_ah, ok thanks
19:42.56KarlThePaganstupid f.... IE7 i hate you
19:43.31jaxdahl2cohu, where do you get grid plugins?
19:43.39KarlThePaganI have FuBar_OutfitterFu fixes... need to get my admin to fix my proxy again to commit tho :(
19:43.49KarlThePaganalready emailed Ruinna about the project
19:43.54NerD|[string "Assist PT1"]:2: attempt to call method " BindingAssist " (a nil value) << WTF ;x ?
19:44.05Josh_BorkeEternally777: that looks fine.  could the frame that is being put into self.frame not be created properly?
19:44.07NerD|I can't assist :(
19:44.10gix_and then i have another question. i create a button with createframe, but when i want to click it in a macro with /click a security error is raised, i don't get why.
19:44.20FiskerIE7 is nice
19:44.21Tekkubpastamancer, yea it only works for the player ATM, so my changes can't be done yet, bah
19:44.28Makkhttp://wow.istoleyour.info/
19:44.37Makk100 mb mirror of some ace addons...
19:44.38Makkmore coming
19:44.51steev64http://ace.pastey.net/3195
19:45.25oxmanwhere is GridDebuffMissing ? I see nothing on http://www.wowace.com/files/
19:45.26VII|Beheritmhm
19:45.32VII|Beherithas anyone got a link to:
19:45.33Eternally777Josh_Borke: I don't know how it couldn't be...
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19:45.42VII|Beherit1. lootmaster addon 2. ct raidtracker (eqdkp)
19:45.45BarbanusI have a 1TB, 100mbit dedicated box, probably eat through 1TB of bandwidth quick tho eh?
19:45.47steev64ideas anyone?
19:45.52cohuits on wowinterface oxman
19:45.57MakkVII|Beherit: how about ctmod.net?
19:46.10oxmanok thanks cohu
19:46.15Makk*what about
19:46.21Eternally777Meh, I'll just comment cooldowns out for now
19:46.28Eternally777I'll come back to them later.
19:46.42Josh_BorkeEternally777: one sec
19:46.50Wargathcould anyone answer mit a non ace related modding question?
19:47.12Eternally777Wargath: You might have better luck in #wowi-lounge
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19:47.34Wargaththanks
19:47.38Eternally777np
19:49.30NerD|[string "Assist PT1"]:2: attempt to call method " BindingAssist " (a nil value) << I got this error with oRA2 when i'm trying to assit my pt1 :(
19:49.36Eternally777Hi cairenn
19:49.39Cairennhi again
19:50.07paranoidiis there somewhere list of functions that are now protected, the consolidated changes list is not very helpfull ;P
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19:50.14Kaeltenhi Cairenn :)
19:50.20nevcairielhi :)
19:50.21Cairennhi again
19:50.25Kaeltenhi Cairenn :)
19:50.38Cairenn:p
19:50.52Josh_BorkeEternally777: http://ace.pastey.net/3196
19:53.19Eternally777Josh_Borke: Error: Attempt to index userdata value
19:53.40pastamancerTekkub: ok, glad I'm not going crazy
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19:54.03Josh_Borkeo.O
19:54.25axxocurrent ctra support mt windows?
19:54.29Tekkubyea someone whine at slow to get that fixed or removed from the changes thread :P
19:54.52pastamancerI'll do some testing with beta/live and then bitch at slouken
19:55.02TekkubI have a feeling he coded it but didn't change the argcheck to accept a string in the second arg
19:55.07Josh_BorkeEternally777: but, but, that's just not right.  if it is not a table then it shouldn't try to use it as one
19:55.43KarlThePaganthat's a function call on a member f:GetName()
19:55.43Eternally777I know :(
19:55.52KarlThePagan<PROTECTED>
19:55.57gix_why do i get a security error when i want to click my created button in a macro? i create it with: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7kfAQK28.html
19:56.40Eternally777Josh_Borke: I'm going to take a break from that part and come back to it later.
19:56.42TheKarnno spam from the svn bot?
19:56.43KarlThePaganmaybe that's how blizz implemented their security stuff
19:57.07Josh_BorkeKarlThePagan: i know what f:GetName() is really ;-)
19:57.11Tekkubgix... using /click?
19:57.53KarlThePaganwhere is the userdata coming from? heh blizz frame?
19:58.02Josh_BorkeKarlThePagan: yes
19:58.04gix_Tekkub: yes, /click _MS  (if that is the right syntax, i don't know)
19:58.05Arrowmasterhey Kaelten, i have a small problem my dev account password isnt working anymore and when i went to send another email from the address i originally emailed the google group from i found out the domain got stolen by cybersquaters
19:58.21KarlThePaganjosh - looks like it should have a metatable... maybe you can inspect that
19:58.23Tekkubgix_, slow ken knows about it, he's working on it
19:58.32Tekkubbut for the time being, can't be done
19:58.49CIA-1703saroz * r19508 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Please, please, get my god damn externals in the zip
19:58.51SarozWhoever wrote that zip script needs to rewrite it, cause it's nothing but trouble when it fails.
19:59.00TheKarney CIA where is my spam?
19:59.05SachsHAH HAHA HAHA, I see what you did there, Tekkub!!
19:59.06Tekkubit's not the script's fault
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19:59.13Sarozerror handling
19:59.13ArrowmasterKaelten, so im going to use my gmail account if your wondering why the address is different
19:59.23Tekkubit's the fact that externals point to the mirrors....
19:59.35Sarozsome SVN mirrors are super fast
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19:59.36Sarozuse that
19:59.42KemayoYeah, the problem is really with the mirrors being persistently out of sync.
19:59.42chuckghttp://chuckg.org/dump/2006/aguf_error.jpg
19:59.46chuckgNo one else seen that?
19:59.58SarozI have
20:00.03SarozCouldn't be arsed to fix it
20:00.11gix_Tekkub: ah ok, so it's a bug then.
20:00.17Tekkubyes gix
20:00.22Sarozchuckg: it happens when the groups change or people leave
20:00.57beerkeffs it is mod hell in guild today ...
20:01.07CIA-1703ammo * r19509 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: pairs() for 2.0
20:01.16benjdrwe normally 1 shot BWL
20:01.23benjdrcurrently on 6th try of razer
20:01.25benjdrfun
20:01.33SarozTekkub: Sorry but there is no point zipping broken data - all externals use svn.wowace.com, if that's the problem, I suggest the server running the script hard resolves to svn2.wowace.com, at least that server doesn't suck
20:01.42ggilbertWho's the admin of the wowace site?
20:01.53Tekkubbitch at clad, it's his script
20:02.07Josh_Borkehey! that script isn't easy!
20:02.08SarozI'm sure clad couldn't give a shit
20:02.14Mikmabingo
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20:02.39Tekkubwell I don't either, I prefer the standalone route :P
20:02.48Sarozhowever people expect good data when they download those files, and when they get mods that pop errors in their face, they get a poor experiance
20:02.53chuckgAlso this: http://chuckg.org/dump/2006/glory2.0_error.jpg
20:03.36zoktargot probs with honer pvp addons aswell
20:03.49Sarozckknight maintains HonorFu, iirc
20:03.52Tekkubpeople shouldn't expect "good data", these mods are beta....
20:04.08Sarozuhm
20:04.13pastamancerI blame WAU
20:04.13KalamadiWhen's Blizzard going to roll the right talents onto live?
20:04.18ggilbertI have access to some server resources and was wondering if there's anything I can do to help out with easing the load on the obviously overloaded servers.
20:04.19Gnarfozthey do, anyway, because there are so many good addons on there that will never reach "final"
20:04.21Sarozbeta means risking no externals are bundled?
20:04.26Tekkubyes
20:04.27dr|dranori'm used to betas
20:04.35Gnarfozbecause their betas are already so damn good that they are better than many other "released" mods
20:04.54Goebggil- maybe next patch... too late for this one
20:05.03SarozI suggest someone ask Clad if he's interested in maintaining that script
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20:05.13Gnarfoz(and because of that and the constant nagging of stupid users (and there's lots of THOSE) for support, many authors can't be arsed to "release" their mods :P)
20:05.14Sarozcause so far he's pulled everything else away from ace
20:05.17Josh_BorkeSaroz: he's not
20:05.22Josh_Borkewrite a better mouse-trap
20:05.26pastamancerI'll put some more work in on my mirror script.
20:05.34phyberKirkburn: do you have the latest clearfont anywhere to download that isn't an overloaded addon site?
20:05.42Tekkubif users don't get full release-quality version from the relesae sites, but instead pull from our dev server, they gotta deal with what they get :P
20:06.02Sarozsure, if the errors are in the code, but not a bundling script
20:06.10Gnarfozthere are next to no release-quality versions on the (overloaded or down) release sites anyway
20:06.15Gnarfozthat's the point, likely ;>
20:06.33KirkburnNot yet
20:06.41ggilbertGoeb: sure thing. :) Thanks.
20:06.45Tekkubbundling script was a hackjob solution to provide zips that lessened the strain on the SVN and gave users a bit easier access
20:06.51paranoidiis it possible to get linenumber out of secure code violation message? I have no idea why my addon does that ..
20:07.09restoredchuckg: [21:02] <chuckg> http://chuckg.org/dump/2006/aguf_error.jpg i got that too... When Raid was disbanded
20:07.16GnarfozI don't get externals if I use svn either, so the script is not really the ultimate culprit, is it?
20:07.17chuckgRight.
20:07.21NerD|Error: attempt to call method 'BindingAssist' (a nil value)
20:07.21NerD|String: Assist PT1
20:07.21NerD|Count: 2
20:07.22SarozTekkub, I understand that, but if it fails it only results in headaches and people thinking ace is shit
20:07.23TheKarnanyone know if theres a way skinner can update the ui when it changes an option?
20:07.28NerD|Anyone can help me :( ?
20:07.44Josh_BorkeSaroz: those people are idiots if they think that a dev distribution system reflects on teh quality of the mod
20:07.49restoredchuckg: was using ag's raidframes. have disable them now.. will see if error persists.
20:07.59Josh_Borkebut as we all know, most people are idiots
20:07.59chuckgI don't use the raid frames.
20:08.05chuckgSo yes, the error persists.
20:08.07SarozJosh_Borke, visit www.wowace.com
20:08.07Tekkubif you think it's such a problem, then get it fixed...
20:08.11pastamancerfiles and public svn should just go away :p
20:08.14restoreddang, was hoping that was it.
20:08.17Tekkubif you give clad a solution that works, he'll put it in
20:08.23Tril_so it appears that perfect raid frames is going to take a while to update?
20:08.28Tekkubhe just doesn't want to spend time fixing it
20:08.49SarozI don't have access to the SVN server
20:08.50Tekkubit's like giving me a diff patch instead of just telling me there's a bug... :P
20:09.06jaxdahl2Josh_Borke, a lot of people don't understand that files/ is bleeding edge
20:09.10Kemayo[Ammo]: Thanks for the fix. I've been jumping back and forth between Python and Lua of late, which leads to pairs() being forgotten here and there. :)
20:09.16SarozAnyone know how the SVN loadbalancing is done? round robin DNS?
20:09.22Tekkubyes
20:09.24MikmaTekkub: no, it's like telling you "your addon has a bug, fix it" and not giving out any extra info
20:09.47Tekkubwell, yea Mikma, but we do know the issue now
20:10.02SarozNo, it's like saying "Your addon has a bug, I'm willing to look in to it, but I don't have access"
20:10.06Tekkubbefore it was a kinda "I dunno why it's intermittent" thing
20:10.33CIA-1703TheKarn * r19510 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/FuBar_OutfitterFu.toc:
20:10.33CIA-17FuBar_OutfitterFu:
20:10.33CIA-17- Removed AceHook from .toc
20:10.46Tekkubdo you want the zip script Saroz?  I don't think you can fix it in the script unless you can overrid svn's externals with a commandline option
20:10.54Icerothokay, in case some is interested: i'm raiding aq40 atm with really minimum set of addons and have managed to test this so far: with either grid or ora2 enabled, i get up to 80kb/s mem increase in combat and without either of those, <1kb/s
20:11.38Goebanything that looks at the raid tables does that ice
20:12.21TekkubSaroz, http://ace.pastey.net/3198
20:12.25KarlThePaganGoeb I was thinking it was one of the libraries that tek/pasta were talking about
20:12.41pastamancerIceroth: but are you getting GC lag other than when someone joins/leaves the raid?
20:12.44KarlThePaganbut is there something other than SEEA which extercises that?
20:12.48Icerothi am
20:13.11Nickenyfikenhehe bigwigs is alwayse the mod where WAU hangs :-P
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20:13.27sylvanaarits big
20:13.34pastamancerIceroth: in combat too?
20:13.35Nickenyfikenyup
20:13.38Goebbigwigs is updated every 20 seconds it seems :)
20:13.41Icerothin combat especially
20:14.01pastamancerI'll be updating SEEA tonight.
20:14.07Nickenyfikenwell WAU really need to time out after like a min or so and continue with the next mod
20:14.40Goebit times out eventually
20:14.44SachsNickenyfiken, well.. it -eventually- times out. ;P Just not after a minute.. "System.Net.WebException: The operation has timed out."
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20:15.04sylvanaarlol thats the tcp connection timing out
20:15.05Goebit's just downloading a large zip at 0.2K/s
20:15.10Nickenyfikenyeah i never have time to wait that long
20:15.18sylvanaarthats a while
20:15.29Nickenyfikenit takes like 10 min (feels like atleast)
20:15.36Eternally777Here's another question: http://ace.pastey.net/3199 <-- This script sets the frame up to cast a spell on your target with left-click, and self-cast if right-click.  Right?
20:15.42SachsI think it takes a lot more than 10 minutes.
20:15.57KarlThePagan20 or 30 minutes default tcp timeout
20:15.59KarlThePagani forget
20:16.00Goebshould be 7 or 30 if it's a tcp timeout
20:16.05Nickenyfikenand WAU really need to cache the mod index
20:16.24Kaeltennikckenyfiken next version of wau is going to be a lot better :)
20:16.45hasteTekkub: tekSupport taints :(
20:16.57Tekkubthought it might, when?
20:17.03NickenyfikenKaelten: ah a new version in the works? awsome :-)
20:17.38Tril_is there a gui config for grid?
20:17.53Nickenyfikenshould get a nice list of mods instead of parsing a html file
20:18.02KarlThePaganTril_ if you use fubar
20:18.05hasteTekkub: BugSack reset the error list :(
20:18.10Tril_i do
20:18.10hasteTekkub: I can see if I have a backup hidden
20:18.28Tekkubfind out where :P
20:18.43KarlThePagancheck under your fubar addons Tril_ there is a Grid one somewhere
20:18.44Tril_i found it , just didn't see the icon :)
20:18.48Fiskerwhy can't bigwigs get teleport?
20:18.51KarlThePagan;)
20:18.59TekkubI might blacklist secure frames, or I might just tell people not to use it when tainting is gonna be a critical issue
20:19.19hasteTekkub: it reset it :(
20:19.48hasteI only saw events.lua from teksupport in the taint error
20:20.03hastewas in the middle of an encounter, so little time to do stuff
20:20.10sylvanaarNickenyfiken: when should WAU cache the index?
20:20.24sbuwaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg
20:20.33Tekkubwell as it stands, don't use tS when tainting can be an issue
20:21.31Nickenyfikensylvanaar: so its not loaded from server each time you start the program... i mean you can manually reload it if you are missing a addon in the list
20:21.37Sachssylvanaar, WAU could cache it, then have a button letting users 'update' it since new mods aren't added that often. ;P
20:21.55sylvanaarno way - they'd never press it
20:21.58Nickenyfikenmy crappy java updater do that but its not working anymore :-P
20:22.03sylvanaarat the right time
20:22.03Nickenyfikentheir loss :-P
20:22.36sylvanaari sent some patches for WAU, and my patched copy is on the SVN supersecretly
20:22.52sbufankriss add no longer tankable with demoshout :/
20:22.55Sachssylvanaar, so, make it update the index once per day/week/whatever. ;P
20:23.04Nickenyfikensylvanaar: a binary or source?
20:23.09kebinusansbu, Im wainting for the crying about bshout tanking the twins
20:23.12sylvanaarit binary
20:23.14kebinusanI havent seen any posts on it yet
20:23.22sbukebinusan: hm
20:23.29WeslockeWouldn't you think that the type of person to actually be running WAU would be the type to 'Update' almost every other time?
20:23.32vhaarrkebinusan: Hey, did the .svnignore trick work?
20:24.04sylvanaaryeah, there isnt much of a need to cache because it isnt run that often
20:24.04kebinusanI forgot about playing around with it
20:24.20kebinusanI fiddled a little bit but I need to google the syntax
20:24.24vhaarrkebinusan: Alright. I have no experience with .svnignore, only .cvsignore, but it should work.
20:24.39phyberanyone else had their talent button disappear?
20:25.04Nickenyfikenpress n :-P
20:25.08WeslockeDunno, I've run it about 10 times so far this afternoon.  Keeps timing out and bombing on me
20:25.21Kirkburnphyber, you're just so damn talented!
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20:25.24vhaarrKaelten: Site still getting slammed? I miss the forums :P
20:25.42vhaarr[Cu]Werik: wru curse-gaming.com
20:25.56Icerothhmm, did you say tekSupport taints?
20:26.10phyberKirkburn: Well, I am a Warlock.  Maybe it's so I can't overpower myself more.
20:26.12steinoThis cannot be!
20:26.24steinoCall tekPolice!
20:26.29vhaarrIceroth: It does.
20:26.36Icerothexplains a few things then...
20:26.41TheKarnanyone tried to get xlootmonitor working in 2.0?
20:26.52vhaarrIceroth: And it taints *everything*.
20:27.09Icerothno wonder i had trouble with bt3 :)
20:27.14Fiskerso anyone know why the twin teleport can't be found?
20:27.23vhaarrFisker: What?
20:27.37*** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@pD9E03CE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
20:27.38Fiskerit's not detected
20:27.49vhaarrFisker: Transcript?
20:28.00vhaarrFisker: Does it show in WitchHunt?
20:28.21Fiskernothing
20:28.28Fiskernot in natur enemy cast bar either
20:28.35vhaarrOkay, that's fucked up.
20:28.35Fiskerdoesn't even do *** teleport ***
20:28.48vhaarrFisker: And you have tried to get a transcript?
20:28.51vhaarrTry that, please.
20:29.17Nickenyfikenstupid crap now all BGs is unavailable
20:29.23Fiskertranscriptor?
20:29.29Nickenyfikenuh and no raid tonight
20:29.38vhaarrFisker: Yes.
20:29.56Nickenyfikentransistor?
20:29.59Tril_whoever wrote Grid .... nice job
20:30.10KarlThePaganwe wub grid
20:30.19Josh_Borkei personally hate it :-P
20:30.31NickenyfikenJosh_Borke: why?
20:30.35Josh_Borkeworst piece of junk ever
20:30.39sylvanaarbecause hes kidding
20:30.41KarlThePaganheh
20:30.43Nickenyfikenlol
20:30.45Fiskergonna try that if i can get it to download
20:31.02NickenyfikenGrid + XRS ftw
20:31.11vhaarrFisker: http://fanetworks.net/wowace.html
20:31.14Nickenyfikenand ora + bigwigs
20:31.17Josh_BorkeFisker: i've got a copy on my website.  http://fs.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/addons
20:31.18Josh_Borkeblah
20:31.38vhaarrJosh_Borke: No, you don't :P
20:31.58Josh_Borkevhaarr: don't what?
20:32.10vhaarrJosh_Borke: Have a copy of Transcriptor ...
20:32.11Fiskerteleport cooldown is 30 seconds right?
20:32.44sylvanaarwhats 'teleport'
20:32.45vhaarrFisker: yes
20:33.18sylvanaaroh lol seconds
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20:35.29Josh_Borkevhaarr: hrm, i thought he wanted grid...
20:35.52Prophyanyone use "buffalo" mod for their debuff/buff management?
20:35.58Mikmano
20:36.07vhaarrkebinusan: rofl, http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3870/amthaddius/
20:36.11vhaarrkebinusan: ripoff or not?
20:36.13vhaarr:P
20:36.20Mikmavhaarr: Server Error
20:36.23vhaarrkebinusan: Take a look at the screenshot.
20:36.27vhaarrMikma: Yeah, the site is unstable.
20:36.38Prophyi dont like ELKBuffbar...it shows it in bars! damnit..need a regular mod to move Buff/debuffs around like Buffalo...anyone got one??
20:36.38Mikmavhaarr: hit it with a sharpe axe
20:36.42vhaarr~whalecrit netcurse
20:36.51purlACTION crits netcurse with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. netcurse dies
20:36.56vhaarrProphy: Update Buffalo for 2.0.
20:37.07Prophybuffalo is broken in 2.0
20:37.21Prophy<3 buffalo but doesn't work in 2.0 =(
20:37.32vhaarr... hence the "update" part.
20:37.58Prophyusing the latest version already =(
20:38.29KarlThePaganhe's telling you to code it ;)
20:38.34Prophybuffalo-r18729[Nimbal].zip =(
20:38.57Prophynimbal!!! or Neriak!!! =)
20:39.35AmadeoI'm so confused about dual wield shamans
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20:39.46AmadeoI saw lots of them saying how it sucks so bad in PvP
20:39.55Amadeobut I'll tell you, they rip my Warrior up faster than when they have 2H weapons
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20:40.51Amadeowhoa
20:40.58AmadeoI just saw a Panasonic Toughbook commercial
20:41.35Azurewraththe 2.0 client is soooo fucked up.. click click click click..
20:42.07Amadeohaha
20:42.34AntiarcAnd it's probably not possible to kill the click, either, given that it's likely executing in protected code.
20:43.43Nickenyfikenluckely they released the patch some time before TBC... so they can patch it up or something
20:44.03Nickenyfikenupgrade their pentium2 servers maybe :-P
20:44.15AmadeoWhy are they performing an autopsy on James Kim?
20:44.26Prophywhat does DreamBuff mod do??
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20:44.54Solehello
20:45.09SarozAnyone got the eqdkp modded ct_raidtracker -.-
20:45.14Icerothey, any plans on updating SoleManax?
20:45.18SachsNickenyfiken, Pentium 2 is a bit of a stretch.
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20:45.28bindiis XRS updated? for 2.0
20:45.32SachsI'm convinced they're running them on clusters of TI-83 calcs..
20:45.47Josh_Borkeand i'm convinced there are over 7 million players world wide
20:45.54FtH|eaglebindi: yes
20:45.58bindihmm k
20:46.01SachsJosh_Borke, 7 million people are 'tards. :/
20:46.03bindii tried it but had an error :)
20:46.08bindiraiding now so i'll check it later
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20:46.24bindialtho i could use it :p
20:46.29FtH|eaglemind sharing the error?
20:46.33SoleIceroth: Im not the author of SoleMAnax
20:46.53bindiehm yeh just a sec :) going fankriss
20:47.14Icerothlol
20:47.20Icerothi thought you were :p
20:47.43rw3anyone else experiencing heavy errors with sRF?
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20:47.52rw3newest version
20:47.59Sarozno
20:48.09Sarozmake sure you got the libs
20:48.42zoktarwtb updated ktmfu
20:48.57Prophyanyone know a mod that allows you to move your Buff/Debuffs/weaponbuffs around freely?
20:49.14VII|Beheritcould someone explain my why bartender3 display me somethings an old keybinding even if i changed it to a different key?
20:49.23VII|Beheriton the button still the old one is displayed
20:49.29Sarozffs, silly UI sites
20:49.29JagobahI have a few popular mods on ftp://67.19.139.94/ if the wowace servers are too slow
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20:50.25SarozFile: sRaidFrames-r19412.zip
20:50.29Saroz49 KB
20:50.30Nickenyfikenhmm is dreambuff something like Buffalo?
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20:51.05Nickenyfikenhehe
20:51.26Josh_BorkeNow do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself about
20:52.18HjalteJagobah: sct and ora2 - the libs are missing from the zips on your server :(
20:52.24Fiskerso vhaarr
20:52.27Fiskerthat transcriptor log
20:52.29Fiskerteh how?
20:52.39vhaarrerr
20:52.45vhaarrInstall it, click the icon, engage the boss.
20:52.48Mikmashut down the public svn!
20:52.53Mikmawe need to update our addons
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20:53.12Prophyanyone know a mod that allows you to move your Buff/Debuffs/weaponbuffs around freely?
20:53.17Fiskeryeah i know
20:53.20Fiskerbut i'm done recording
20:53.22Fiskerwhat now? :P
20:53.30rw3Prophy: Buffalo when it works :D
20:53.37Prophylol damn
20:53.42Prophyneed it badly lol
20:53.58rw3So do I
20:54.06Mikmabah, useless
20:54.11Mikmastick with the default buffs :P
20:54.17rw3as... if.
20:54.21CIA-1703dafire * r19511 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed deDE herbalism and gather herbs
20:54.29Prophyi like to move my debuffs to a different place then top right lol
20:54.30rw3takes more space than my actionbars
20:54.31rw3-_-
20:54.36Mikmathen stop the whining
20:54.43Prophyelkbuffbars are too long and space wasting too
20:54.47rw3yup
20:54.56Prophybuffalo rocked
20:54.57MikmaDIY or wait for 2.0
20:55.06bindiFtH|eagle nvm :) i took the time to read the error :p
20:55.11rw3We are waiting aren't we Mikma?
20:55.17Mikmano
20:55.19ElkanoProphy: :(
20:55.21rw3You are allowed to be eager to get it, can't you?
20:55.21Mikmayou are whining like bitches
20:55.26Mikmaand you know what happen to bitches?
20:55.29bindiand fixed
20:55.34Mikmawe beat them, dress them and put them on the corner
20:55.43Prophyelk: it looks mighty cool though =)
20:55.46Saroz!devtools
20:55.48rw3Actually, you are whining. We're just stating we need it for our UI.
20:55.50FtH|eagleFtH|eagle: so you tell me the error that I can fix it?
20:55.54Saroz~devtools
20:55.57purlsomebody said devtools was Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta
20:56.07bindii didn't had crayonlib
20:56.11Fiskerhmm
20:56.22ElkanoProphy: current version only looks like that, next will be ^^
20:56.24Fiskerfor about 10 minutes nothing happens in the log
20:56.26Kaeltenhaving a sick 3 year old is sad
20:56.34Fiskerthen this
20:56.35Fisker[2826] = "<634.8> Emperor Vek'nilash gains Twin Teleport. -[spell_perCbuffs]-",
20:56.35Fisker[2827] = "<634.8> Emperor Vek'lor gains Twin Teleport. -[spell_perCbuffs]-",
20:56.41haarmdepends what kind of sick
20:56.42Fiskerbut it still doesn't register that
20:57.10Kaeltenshe has pink eye, and an ear effection, and a lot of congestion
20:57.22haarmthat's just unfortunate
20:57.25haarmcancer is sad
20:57.31vhaarrFisker: Thanks, then I can fix it.
20:57.50Fiskerbut i only get those events twice in the whole battle
20:58.24vhaarrFisker: Probably because you're too far away.
20:58.35haarmKael, it could be worse, cheer up, she'll be fine soon :)
20:58.36Fiskerwell wouldn't the other bigwigs mods get it? O_o
20:58.47Eternally777Hmm, I can make my action buttons work when I don't try to add the state suffix in.. ex: ("spell2", <spell>) works, but ("spell-S02", <spell>) doesn't.  Am I doing someting wrong?
20:59.14Eternally777s/someting/something/
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21:01.25LoStimy mem is insane >.< Inc Rate 19 kbs
21:01.32hasteI've seen 391 today
21:01.33Eternally777The examples being arguments of SetAttribute() of course.
21:01.45LoSti391 kbs?!^^
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21:01.49hasteduring zhe raid
21:01.53LoStiwow...
21:02.00LoStiwhat is that...?
21:02.04LoStiany idea?
21:02.16Icerothseea 80kb easily
21:02.18hasteraid  + 9 candybars running + the rest = weee
21:02.43LoStii hate it to push Force GC every 5min ^^
21:03.02noha^was automatic GC removed from the game?`oO
21:03.06Icerothwell mine GCs automatically all the time :s
21:03.18noha^i noticed the same thing.. 150kb/s during raid
21:03.30noha^but only with >30 ppl in raid
21:03.33Eternally777Memory peaks are higher now, but the GC is still working as intended.
21:03.41AmadeoI get constant GC, so much that my PC locks up
21:03.48noha^:)
21:03.51Eternally777Sure the numbers are bigger, but it doesn't studder like it used to on every collection.
21:03.59Amadeoit does for me
21:04.04noha^and an fps drop from 50 to 10 ...
21:04.06KarlThePaganwhat's your increasing rate ama?
21:04.23AmadeoKarlThePagan: It varies, I've seen as high as 90, but I see stuff like negative 1450 more
21:04.37LoStimine is 19 and after 5min my Client Says "Wee i crash now cause ur 48 MB Cache is full"
21:04.42Amadeoand each time a negative pops up, my PC locks/stutters/etc
21:04.54KarlThePaganwell that stutter would be the incremental
21:04.57noha^and this annoying tick sound all the time
21:04.58KarlThePaganhmm
21:05.15*** join/#wowace ny_work (n=nylith@dsl092-135-045.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
21:05.17Amadeoyou know how you stutter for a sec each time someone joins a raid now?
21:05.26Eternally777I'll take it no one has any idea how to solve my attributes issue then, eh?
21:05.28Amadeothat's what happens during combat for me, but for longer periods
21:05.35hasteso what add ons spams the chat with the slime messages? bigwigs?
21:05.54noha^"slime messages"?
21:06.04KarlThePaganAmadeo - try /script collectgarbage("setstepmul",$somenumberhere)
21:06.18KarlThePaganI would be interested if smaller/bigger numbers help you out ama
21:06.24NickenyfikenMorbid Angel - Where the lives
21:06.31hasteCHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_DAMAGE: You suffer 100 Nature damage from Slime.
21:06.35NickenyfikenMorbid Angel - Where the slime lives
21:06.39LoStilöl
21:07.02noha^:)
21:07.03Silviu-I won 10 more fps if i disabled completely all sounds
21:07.08hastein red, in the chat
21:07.16AmadeoKarlThePagan: At any time, or in a raid during a BG when I experience it normally?
21:07.17CIA-1703saroz * r19512 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Unbreak PVE buff display, damn :(
21:07.22ny_worki'm creating an ace2 addon.  i'm using an options table, in particular, a text option.  it calls the set function SetRaidName, which seems to work fine.  but inside that function i make use of self:print(), and when i do so I get a ui error saying method print is a nil value
21:07.45Sarozclique needs more options
21:07.46KarlThePaganAmadeo at any time it doesn't actually do a gc, but it controls the speed at which gc occurs
21:07.47Soleself:Print() ?
21:07.47ny_workdo I need to pass self into the function somehow?
21:07.58KarlThePaganAmadeo that number is 200 by default and numbers lower than 100 might not collect garbage fast enough
21:08.00SoleIVe always used a capital P
21:08.04FtH|eaglehaste: simplecombatlog, because it caught an event/pattern which isn't in parserlib
21:08.11hasteFtH|eagle: ah!
21:08.13ny_workhmm
21:08.17Solejust try it
21:08.17hasteFtH|eagle: thank you :)
21:08.20FtH|eaglenp
21:08.21AmadeoI see
21:08.30Soleif not then replace  self  with the name of the addon, so  Addon:Print()
21:08.31KarlThePaganAmadeo more detail in Lua 5.1 manual section 2.10
21:08.39HjalteI think some of the 7 million addon users has gone to bed. wowace.com/files is useable now! :)
21:08.45Soleno wai!
21:08.56ny_workok, will do
21:09.06zoktardont tell anyone but ui.worldofwar.net is slightly working
21:09.19FtH|eagleyou could add it yourself, search for the event in parserlib and the pattern in globalstrings.lua
21:09.39Icerothhmm.. sct light mode is kinda neat, went from 5-6kb/s to ~1kb/s
21:09.47KarlThePaganalso ama - "setpause" controls how often it collects - 100 means don't wait... collect until it's done (old method), 200 means wait until memeory is 2x what it was after last collection
21:10.16AmadeoI had no GC problems before 2.0
21:10.17Fiskerso vhaarr found anything about that teleport yet?
21:10.25rw3Saroz: If you disable sRaidFrames the headers remain floating around until you reloadui
21:10.26KarlThePaganmany things have changed unfortunately
21:10.27Nickenyfikenis anyone working on Buffalo?
21:10.30Amadeoyeah
21:10.36Sarozrw3: cool
21:10.45rw3:X
21:10.54noha^manual decurse at noth s*cks :(
21:10.56KarlThePaganthere was some discussion earlier about optimization... i think assumptions have been made that the new GC would be better than it is
21:11.01[Cu]Werik:D:D:DDDDD
21:11.21Nickenyfikenlol Eastern Kingdoms and all BGs is down on my realm
21:11.25*** part/#wowace zoomjr (n=vadkh@212.220.119.198)
21:11.51ny_workthanks Sole, that did it.
21:11.54Sole:)
21:11.56LoStiNickenyfiken: same here in Germany ;)
21:12.15HjalteWhen i try and use a spell from my spell book i get a message that bartender3 has been blocked bla bla
21:12.16AmadeoKarlThePagan: So if I set it to 100, it will behave like before the patch?
21:12.17ny_workquestion #2: is there a way to pass a variable to an execute option?
21:12.25Fiskermy head is spinning from all that manual twin timing :(
21:12.27KarlThePaganAmadeo the game will, but your addons won't
21:12.32Amadeoahh
21:12.44ny_worklike lets say i wanted the user to be able to "/nrt start Bob", and have the start function get the string "bob"
21:12.53KarlThePaganthat means one really long long pause and then it will gc again as soon as there is something to collect
21:13.07KarlThePagan100 is probably not the best thing to do
21:13.10Barbanussaroz, what does that mean? " Unbreak PVE buff display, damn :("
21:13.28vhaarrFisker: I'll fix it, but not right now.
21:13.36dafiredamn.. what a F****ing bug
21:13.59KarlThePaganAmadeo let me know if this helps I'm quite interested
21:14.14Amadeoyep, about to try it now
21:14.16Amadeotrying to get into a BG
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21:14.28KarlThePaganalso you may need to restart the game to set the defaults if they aren't 200/200
21:14.56CIA-1703TheKarn * r19513 10Grid/GridFrame.lua:
21:14.56CIA-17Grid:
21:14.56CIA-17- Error when inverting health-bar.
21:15.39bindiwhats the "blabla addon has been blocked from an action" anyway?
21:15.56TheKarnits when ... an addon ... has been blocked ... from an action.
21:15.58Nickenyfikenbindi: it is trying to do things that is no longer allowed by the game
21:16.11TheKarni.e. blizzard have decided addons can nolonger do something so its blocked from doing it
21:16.14bindiperl? :p
21:16.32bindiace2?
21:16.33LoStiu curse is comming back :P
21:16.42KarlThePaganbindi you want TaintChecker
21:16.44[Cu]Werikya!:)
21:16.54bindihm k
21:16.56dafirekergoth ? ;)
21:17.09LoStiBack but still laggy ;)
21:17.09evlAnyone hacked the old oUF like me?
21:17.11SarozBarbanus, that I broke the thing that shows Shield Wall etc
21:17.17KarlThePagandisable everything and re-enable them slowly, using taint checker to figure out which hooks cause the problem
21:17.31KarlThePaganor just wait for your addons to get updated ;)
21:17.46LoStiand u sayed it wouldnt happen to you :D
21:17.58Silviu-KarlThePagan "taint checker" ?
21:18.06KarlThePaganTaintChecker addon
21:18.12KarlThePaganit's in /files
21:18.37KarlThePaganit's more of a dev tool
21:18.46KarlThePaganbut will help reporting bugs
21:18.54Amadeoseems to be the same for me
21:19.04vhaarrFisker: Committing fix now.
21:19.14KarlThePaganAmadeo what were your settings for pause and mul?
21:19.19sbubindi: fankriss adds no longer tauntable with demoshout?
21:19.27bindinop
21:19.40Icerothyeah, we had a really messy fankriss too
21:19.46CIA-1703otravi * r19514 10oRogueHelper/ (libs/ moredots.lua oRogueHelper.lua oRogueHelper.toc): oRogueHelper - Win and diamonds.
21:19.46CIA-1703rabbit * r19515 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Twins: Update teleport trigger for 2.0.
21:19.46TheKarnwhy does my wow randomly decide to make noises
21:19.47bindiwiping like a baby
21:19.59bindiits when someone goes offline/dead/alive TheKarn
21:20.03bindiclick noises?
21:20.07TheKarnyeah
21:20.10TheKarndamn thats annoying
21:20.11bindicheck it
21:20.28bindiidd
21:20.30AmadeoKarlThePagan: Oh, I set the second one to 100, what's the first supposed to change to?
21:21.30KarlThePaganthe pause is how often it collects, the mul is how much collection it does at once
21:21.34kergoth~addonkit
21:21.41KarlThePaganchange one at a time is good... very scientific ;)
21:21.47kergothanyone have a link to the extractor for the beta?
21:22.07Amadeowhat are the defaults for both?
21:22.16KarlThePaganLua 5.1 says 200/200
21:22.22KarlThePaganbut who knows what blizz did
21:22.45TheKarnwhat is taint checker?
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21:22.56Grinewoah...
21:23.03Amadeooh ok
21:23.06GrineI just entered the Christian Gamers Alliance Forums
21:23.11Baps"because it checks for taint, Avi!"
21:23.12KarlThePaganaddon to scan hooks for taint changes in hopes of finding what taints were broken without reading all the code
21:23.21Saroz_icetrain, ping
21:23.28Sarozsomeone needs to setup an SVN browser
21:23.40KarlThePaganSaroz lol it's based on http...
21:23.43KarlThePagan;)
21:23.55Sarozhttp://search.cpan.org/dist/SVN-Web/
21:24.02KarlThePaganah
21:24.17KarlThePaganbut... what does it actually do?
21:24.25NerD|Is there any already knew bug with oRA2 when trying to assist a PT with a keybinding :x ?
21:24.25Sarozlets us see diffs and stuff
21:24.32jaxdahl2Saroz, used to be one up
21:24.35KarlThePaganwell that's useful i suppose
21:24.39SarozI know
21:24.41jaxdahl2Saroz, but i believe it created too much load
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21:24.46Sarozput it on a mirror
21:24.52Saroz_icetrain said he'd look into it
21:24.58gerber^Cavisty[AAny confab like mod working for 2.0?
21:25.04mjcwtf is confab
21:25.11Grinehmmz I need the updater >.<
21:25.14LoStiChatframe Modding
21:25.16NerD|Prat
21:25.21LoStiPrat..bah..
21:25.22NerD|LoSti > Prat
21:25.28Grinemanaged to remove it when I dumped my mods
21:25.30Saroz.....
21:25.44Barbanuswhat happened to trac?
21:25.54Barbanusthat has a svn browser in it too
21:26.20Sarozdunno
21:26.20Sarozdont need trac
21:26.21Sarozonly need the browser :(
21:26.21hastewe should go back to https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/ !
21:26.21haste</joke>
21:26.32Sarozjust put up http://search.cpan.org/dist/SVN-Web/
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21:26.47Sarozon a mirror, maybe even password protect it to developers
21:26.49Saroz*shrug*
21:26.53Saroznot getting diffs are a pain
21:27.09haste8month old oRA there :D
21:27.13Sarozor create a mailinglist and send commit mails to that
21:27.19steev64whats wrong with svn diff?
21:27.25noha^http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace/.rss <- oO
21:27.28noha^commit rss
21:27.29Sarozdoesnt show diffs
21:27.36noha^k :(
21:27.50hastegoogle groups shows diff!
21:27.59hasteand so does the svn command
21:28.30Sarozgoogle groups are on break
21:29.03KarlThePaganI kinda like google code
21:29.09KarlThePagandunno what the terms for it are tho
21:29.19KarlThePaganif svn hosting is an issue
21:29.31dafirekergoth? :(
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21:30.06steev64Saroz: http://ace.pastey.net/3201
21:30.06SarozI need to lower my memory limit
21:30.23Sarozofc
21:30.25Mikmai use 0 as limit
21:30.30LoSti0?
21:30.34Sarozmy memory just keeps raising
21:30.40Sarozno GC
21:30.45yacoobfloat above!
21:30.49Grineanyone know if PerfectRaid works in 2.0?
21:30.52Mikmayes, 0
21:30.55mjcSaroz: wtf are you using to check that
21:30.58Mikmait means "automatic"W
21:31.02KarlThePaganlol that's now "low"
21:31.05KarlThePagan;)
21:31.11LoStimjc: Performance Fu ?^^
21:31.16Sarozye
21:31.22KarlThePaganon windows that means "i want fragmented memory"
21:31.26mjcis your performancefu updated ?
21:31.29Sarozyes
21:31.33mjcKarlThePagan: fragmented memory is a myth
21:31.33LoStisure it is..
21:31.43LoStiBut i dont wanna see this Inc Rate..
21:31.54mjcSaroz: let me check it to see if it's accurate
21:31.59KarlThePaganwhatever you call it mjc reallocating blocks of memory is not something windows does well
21:32.06Sarozif I force GC it goes to 20MB, but now it's at 42MB
21:32.07mjcKarlThePagan: it takes just as long to access 000000 as it does FFFFFF
21:32.08Sarozand raising
21:32.18Sarozrising
21:32.21mjcKarlThePagan: and just as long to read any random address in the middle
21:32.25LoStiInitial : 18 MB after 5min 50 Mb...
21:32.29Sarozye
21:32.33Sarozno GC
21:32.35KarlThePaganmjc you trivialize the issue
21:32.35mjcKarlThePagan: defragmenting memory is a myth
21:32.39LoStiSign..
21:32.50mjcKarlThePagan: mjc@kernel.org
21:32.58KarlThePaganmjc explain how you would reallocate memory blocks
21:33.00mjcKarlThePagan: I helped write two different VMs for linux
21:33.08Sarozuff, owned
21:34.03mjcKarlThePagan: memory is used as it is needed
21:34.03Mikmamjc: scummvm?
21:34.03KarlThePaganand when a contiguous portion of memory is too small for the task needed
21:34.03mjcno, virtual memory
21:34.03mjclike, in-kernel stuff
21:34.03Mikmaboo :(
21:34.04mjcKarlThePagan: there is a page table that keeps track of what program owns what pieces of memory
21:34.04Mikmai keep thinking VM as Virtual Machine
21:34.04mjcKarlThePagan: page table lookups are trivial and are done every access
21:34.11mjcKarlThePagan: it doesn't matter
21:34.13KarlThePaganso the lua vm doesn't require contiguous addresses?
21:34.51mjcnope.
21:34.54mjcpage tables
21:34.56lhunathkarlthepagan: are you planning on making lua tables that take several tens to hundereds of MB of memory?
21:35.06mjche's talking about windows in general
21:35.13lhunathI see.
21:36.03KarlThePaganwell it's a mystery then... why windows swaps more for me when I set my UI memory to 0
21:36.03mjcKarlThePagan: the only ones that need to be contiguous are legacy crap and PCI IO crap, which isn't handled by the virtual memory system
21:36.12lhunaththe only way memory defragging seems useful to me is if you've used about 95% of all RAM and have no swap available.
21:36.40KarlThePaganI had much better experience at 128 or 256 than 0
21:36.40mjclhunath: in that instance the swap file size is increased or you oom once you've hit 100%
21:36.55lhunathindeed
21:37.04dafirekergoth?
21:37.17mjcKarlThePagan: that's probably because 5.0 uses more memory when it has to dynamically allocate
21:37.26kergothwhat?
21:37.29lhunathyou can set UI memory to 0 in wow?
21:37.35mjcyes, but you shouldn't
21:37.44lhunathas in, unlimited?
21:37.46TheKarnhow do i make wow always save screenshots in png or jpg?
21:37.50KarlThePaganmjc - actually I recently started working with large memory apps on linux 2.6 (vm overcommit turned off)
21:37.54mjcTheKarn: only the mac version can do that
21:37.57dafirekergoth: just wanted to know if you startet to change cart*_herbalism
21:38.02lhunathdoes lua base it's GC cycles on that value?
21:38.03Bapsmemory fragmentation can be an issue depending on what you mean.  If you have 2GB of memory free, but it's fragmented such that you have no areas bigger than 2k free, any attempt to allocate more than 2K of contiguous memory will fail
21:38.03mjcKarlThePagan: ok, what about it?
21:38.07kergothdafire, ?
21:38.16dafireit's not working anymore
21:38.26mjcBaps: depends on VM implementation
21:38.28Bapsbut because most systems use paging, that's not usually an issue except when you're doing your own memory management from a heap..
21:38.30kergothworks fine here
21:38.31jaxdahl2TheKarn, i belive a config option in config.wtf
21:38.35kergothi'll need more information than that
21:38.40KarlThePaganjust wondering if you had any insights on how to get a single application to work with 12 of 16 gigs without overcommit turned off ;)
21:38.41Bapsmjc: absolutely it does
21:38.44hastedafire: everytime I read your nick I think: die in a fire, die in a fire, die in a fire... is this intended?
21:38.47kergothdont assume i'm going to be doing something when i have heard zero reports of problems
21:38.50jaxdahl2TheKarn, your name sounds familiar.. did you ever play quake 2?
21:39.25dafirekergoth: the CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_BUFF has an other format then the old event.. it has the name of the herb in it
21:39.27mjcKarlThePagan: in that kind of an instance overcommit isn't desired, and should be turned off
21:39.40dafirekergoth: but it would need deformat to get it I think
21:39.43mjcyou just don't want it
21:39.56KarlThePaganyea that's pretty much what I figured, just have to bite the bullet and be very careful about telling my apps how much memory they can take
21:40.22mjcif your app is allocating more than 2^32 bits, you should be controlling it carefully
21:40.22dafirekergoth: the problem with the solution now is when you start to get the herb and mouseover something else it will not find the name of the herb in the tooltup
21:40.25dafirehaste :)
21:40.40TheKarnjaxdahl2 i did but not online ;)
21:40.41KarlThePaganof course ;)
21:40.58kergothdafire, wtf are you talking about?
21:41.07kergothonly mining is fully reliant upon the tooltip
21:41.14kergothherbalism uses the herb name out of the chat message
21:41.28CIA-1703nevcairiel * r19516 10Bartender3/ (5 files):
21:41.28CIA-17Bartender3:
21:41.28CIA-17- Changes to Self-Casting:
21:41.28CIA-17<PROTECTED>
21:41.28CIA-17<PROTECTED>
21:41.54Mikmanevcairiel: sweet update
21:42.01andremarnevcairiel: any chance BT3 can show the keybindings set for the blizzard bars?
21:42.19nevcairielandremar: no
21:42.26nevcairielif you want it to show, use bt3 keybindings
21:42.27andremardamn
21:42.28sylvanaarlol
21:42.35noha^nevcairiel: no right click self cast anymore?
21:42.43nevcairielright click is still in
21:42.43andremarwell, I would it they where configurable trough the keybindings interface
21:42.52dafirekergoth: Cartographer_Herbalism :9
21:42.52noha^*cheers*
21:42.53Saroz<3 svn2.wowace.com
21:42.57nevcairielthe dewdrop isnt too bad
21:42.59Nickenyfikensomeone explain how unit focus works
21:42.59kergothdafire, yes...
21:43.03andremarbut that setting it trough a million popupws with no overview, thats hard
21:43.24nevcairielmaybe i should switch back to gellos clickbinder
21:43.25jaxdahl2Nickenyfiken, you can /focus any uit
21:43.31nevcairielit was easier to handle
21:43.31Nickenyfikenaguf seems to have a unitframe for focus but it never shows up...
21:43.32kergoth"the solution now" implies that the code isnt making use of the combat log message at all, which has never been the case for herbalism
21:43.39jaxdahl2Nickenyfiken and if you have no target, /focus will clear it
21:43.47jaxdahl2and 'focus' becomes a valid unit ID
21:43.51Nickenyfikenjaxdahl2: ok
21:43.59jaxdahl2useful for macros
21:44.14kergothanyway, i'll look into it.  as i said, its working fine here, but i'm testing on beta, not live.  i'll test it on live
21:44.38dafirehm
21:45.22andremarnevcairiel: any chance of getting cooldown count on pet-bar?
21:45.32dafirei can test on beta also .. i already found 2 errors in babble-spell de translation
21:45.40CIA-1703badhex * r19517 10SliceWatcher/SliceWatcher.lua: SliceWatcher: - Fixed a bug with a combo point staying on the bar.
21:47.15Sarozmade my own SVN sync script now, using svn2.wowace.com: http://random-guild.com/mods/sRaidFrames.zip
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21:47.24Sarozftw
21:47.27dafirekergoth: ok i was wrong it's working now .. was only the babble-spell mistake
21:48.15dafirebut the mining version still not working on german client
21:48.38steev64Saroz: does that version get rid of the group names?
21:48.50Elkanohmm.. GarbageFu is broken :/
21:48.53Sarozno
21:48.57steev64:(
21:49.03Sarozhavnt looked at it yet
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21:49.18Sarozgroup names dont scale either
21:49.20Saroz*sigh*
21:49.42CIA-1703dafire * r19518 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: another deDE fix related to herbalism
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21:51.46lniceI'm sure this has been asked 100x already, but was having problems today with ace2 lib, and I updated it lastnight, not sure.  Seems to work normally then if I queue up for bg it comes up.
21:52.52Bapslnice: many of the addons aren't getting their embedded libs included in the zip files right now due to the load on the servers
21:53.50lniceI updated without externals
21:53.53Nickenyfikencan someone tell my why the PvP reward vendors show how much money you have when you dont buy the stuff for money?
21:54.03Nickenyfikenwe need a mod to show honor and marks instead :-)
21:54.05Bapsdo you have the libs as standalones then?
21:54.14jaxdahl2Nickenyfiken, great idea
21:54.20Sarozsolution: Write your own zip script :p
21:54.23jaxdahl2honor too
21:54.23TheKarnNickenyfiken: because blizzard fail at thinking
21:54.31jaxdahl2they should've implemented that in the default ui
21:54.36Nickenyfikenhehe yeah
21:54.39Nickenyfikensilly really
21:54.48jaxdahl2Nickenyfiken, it should show money too
21:54.59jaxdahl2combat potions cost money too
21:55.06Nickenyfikenah missed that
21:55.13Nickenyfikenwell it should show honor and marks too
21:55.36lniceI downloaded the standalone libs, then extracted the empty folders into my addons, then updated with the uploader, with the mods I have, I had empty folders as well,and updated those without externals
21:56.18TheKarnis there a battleground module for bigwigs?
21:56.46Bapslnice: you mean with wowaceupdater ?
21:56.53mjcTekkub: rawr needs a bump
21:57.21Tekkubmjc, http://groups-beta.google.com/group/tekkub-wow
21:58.06haste"adult content"
21:58.23mjcnice
21:58.26Grineargh where are my libs >.<
21:59.39KarlThePaganTheKarn I use Capping
21:59.50KarlThePaganit's got some really sweet bar timers for battlegrounds
22:00.29KarlThePagantho there are "bosses" in av... i'm sure a "GTFO Galv is whirlwinding!" message would help
22:00.51TheKarnlol
22:00.56Tekkubhttp://fchan.hentaiplanet.net/b/src/b_1157854688820_omfg.jpg
22:01.13KarlThePaganman... that would be a nice bigwigs module... AV bosses
22:01.38jaxdahl2KarlThePagan, i use spellalert for SCT
22:01.51KarlThePaganwell that helps, but what if there was a bar timer for them
22:01.55Bapsjax: is there an updated version of SpellalertSCT?
22:02.00BapsI haven't found it yet
22:02.22KarlThePagani wonder if MSBT has any of that built in yet...
22:03.33Icerothmeh, wtb forums back.. someone had problems with icehud tot module giving error
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22:03.58anenigma_Baps: I found one, somewhere.  Got dcc?
22:03.58lniceI get this error, over a bit of time...  Ace2 has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI.
22:04.07Grineanyone have a link to the updater?
22:04.19gerber^Cavisty[Aanybody have info on onebag?
22:04.24gerber^Cavisty[Ais it still not working?
22:04.36jaxdahl2To compensate players for any inconvenience caused by the downtime experienced as a result of this week's major content patch, we will be issuing a 24-hour time extension to all players who have accounts that are currently active.
22:04.51sbuhmmmm
22:05.28lniceahh it seems to be key bindings of some sort
22:05.29Bapsanenigma: I do, but the firewall might or might not allow it.  give it a shot
22:05.32Bapsyes.  =)
22:05.34anenigma:)
22:06.11Sarozseriously, why is sv2 so SUPER fast and svn.wowace.com is uber slow
22:06.12Goebit worked?  hell, I haven't seen a dcc work in eons
22:06.14Sarozloadbalance fails
22:06.17BapsircII 4.4 FTW.  =)
22:06.21CIA-1703iceroth * r19519 10IceHUD/ (7 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD: Fixes and patches
22:06.26Goebyay more icehud
22:06.33leech2kwait whats this sv2?
22:06.46Sarozsvn2*
22:06.49leech2ko
22:06.50Sarozsvn2.wowace.com
22:07.03Sarozme thinks teh round robin shit isnt working that well
22:07.07leech2kdidnt even know it existed
22:07.12hasteSaroz: 'cause svn.wowacecom is a mirror to svnX.wowace.com
22:07.16leech2kis there a dev2 also?
22:07.24Sarozno
22:07.26Sarozdev is master
22:07.29Sarozhaste, I know
22:07.30leech2kkk
22:07.48CIA-1703kergoth * r19520 10kEnergy/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
22:07.48CIA-17kEnergy:
22:07.48CIA-17* Initial commit.
22:07.49CIA-17* kEnergy is a simple energy ticker addon based on CandyBar, using
22:07.49CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:07.49CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:08.21Sarozhaste, 65.98.61.60 is uber slow, and it's always the server I get for svn.wowace.com
22:08.34hastedo what I did, edit your hsots :)
22:08.37TheKarnso how useful is icehud? :P
22:08.38SarozI did
22:08.38sbuSaroz: hm - then remap svn.wowace.com to dev.
22:08.45hasteSaroz: 65.110.63.200   svn.wowace.com
22:08.50SarozI did that haste
22:08.56Sarozmy point is, there must be something wrong
22:09.03sbuhmm
22:09.04Sarozor the load balance is crap :p
22:09.13sbuWTB .diff file for r16349
22:09.24IcerothTheKarn, it's the best, ofc
22:09.26Iceroth;)
22:09.27Grinesourceforge is teh slow!
22:09.30SarozWTB http://search.cpan.org/dist/SVN-Web/
22:09.47sbuahh google ftw
22:09.52chuckghttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/12/amazing-paintshop-work.html
22:09.54chuckgSo awesome.
22:09.54TheKarnbut ... why would i want to use it? sell it to me Iceroth
22:10.18Icerothwell, at least it's damn efficient, i had 0.1 kb/s mem increase in full combat with only that and fubar/miniperfsfu running
22:10.30nevcairielSaroz: i think svn.wowace.com is a proxy which forwards the requests, not sure why though
22:10.40SarozI thought it was round robin DNS
22:10.48leech2kI swtich to IceHUD yesterday becuase ArcHUD wasn't updated. Seems good so far.
22:10.53Icerothand i don't want to sell it to anyone, if you like huds, give it a shot :)
22:10.58nevcairielat least ATM, it isnt
22:11.06Saroz:(
22:11.06nevcairieldig only reports one hit
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22:11.10Sarozyea
22:11.14packetlssany ace:ed addon that handles enemy castbar yet?
22:11.20SarozI dunno, but tbh it seems flawed
22:11.22Sarozthe balance
22:11.35Saroz65.98.61.60 is getting all the action
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22:11.59nevcairielthats the only ip any DNS resolve gives me
22:12.09Sarozyup
22:12.10nevcairielbut i think its a proxy
22:12.14Sarozhrm
22:12.16packetlsssvn.wowace.com is proxy yes
22:12.29Higdurhm, my agUF have moved, any tip on how to move it back most easily?
22:12.34SarozRRDNS might work better atm :p
22:12.48Sarozthe proxy seems to be the bottleneck
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22:13.21SachsPsychokinesis, Higdur.
22:13.48sylvanaarit was misused into obscurity
22:14.19sylvanaardrats, once again, scrolled way back
22:15.20mjcdeltron: ping
22:16.07SarozI wanna be an SVN mirror
22:16.12Sarozso I can set up an SVN browser
22:16.14Sarozplx?
22:16.15mjcSaroz: it is round robin for CPU but not for bandwidth
22:16.47mjcrr dns would mean that they'd all have to have vhosts as svn.wowace.com which isn't possible on some of the mirrors atm
22:17.08Sarozthey do
22:17.12Sarozsvn2.wowace.com does anyway
22:17.19Sarozit answers for svn.wowace.com and dev.wowace.com
22:17.22mjcsome of the mirrors are not vhosted
22:17.37leech2kmeh I wouldn't worry about it to much not a single mod say is up stable
22:17.43leech2ksight*
22:17.46leech2ksite*
22:18.40Sarozwho do I talk to about becomming a mirror? :p
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22:19.19mircoOmg... Decursive is not gonna work where i can just decurse by pushing a button?
22:19.27leech2klol
22:19.27SachsWelcome to last month.
22:19.28nevcairielright.
22:19.30Saroz...
22:19.32Fiskeryou can't
22:19.37sylvanaaralt-f4
22:19.38Sarozdo /wrist
22:19.38steev64yes, you actually have to pay attention now
22:19.41AmadeoAddons are pissing me off in 2.0, time to get rid of tons of them
22:19.55leech2kmirco: It seems so far that grid + cliquie might be next closest thing.
22:20.01mircoMan.. gonna be tought to do some bosses in MC...
22:20.06leech2knaw
22:20.12Firedancerhaste: do oPen and oApplication work in 2.0 or are they still in need of tweaking? I haven't re-DL'd yet (decided to rebuild my interface from scratch when patch came) and was curious ^_^
22:20.13CIA-1703rabbit * r19521 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: Working :P
22:20.23Fiskera thing that's pissing me off is that for some reason my addons are up and using around 60MB of memory
22:20.28mircoDetox works?
22:20.31mjcno
22:20.33leech2klol
22:20.35mjcit just displays a list
22:20.36Fiskerand i'm not even using the same addons as i used to
22:20.39hasteFiredancer: shrugs, if it's not on the site, it's not ported yet
22:20.46Fiskerthe same = as many
22:20.47Firedancerah okie
22:20.50lniceuse grid, and clique
22:20.54anenigmahmm.  apparently 'Ace2 has been blocked' yada yada, when I try to DE stuff in vBagnon
22:20.58Firedanceri forgot about your site *blush*
22:21.02jaxdahl2or grid and [target=mouseover]
22:21.06mjcanenigma: any ace2 mod could cause that
22:21.06mircoFiredancer... where you from?
22:21.08sylvanaarits not hard with clique, i was using ct-raid and clique without decursive in 1.12 just fine
22:21.16TheKarnis there a mirror for wowace.com/files?
22:21.16Fiskeri had a similar problem anenigma but it went away after a relog
22:21.21Firedancerupstate ny is all you need to know ;p
22:21.44leech2kWe cleared most of nax last night fine. Inlcuding noth and heigan. They both take a lot of dispelling. And most of used defualt UI. It really not as bad as you would think.
22:21.54mircoYou didnt used to work with uo didcha firedancer...
22:22.00Sarozheigan? nah
22:22.13leech2kDisease a good amount.
22:22.14FiredancerI played UO...does that count?
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22:22.21mircoAh well.. a very good friend of mine had that name :P
22:22.22Firedancertuller!
22:22.23leech2kJust doesn't have to be removed as fast as noth.
22:22.24sylvanaari cant use the default ui to heal at all, i have been click casting for over a year
22:22.27mircoWell he still has it :P
22:22.35Tullerhello
22:22.36FiskerTuller owns
22:22.47Firedancerah :) I don't thjink I used this name while i was playing UO. this came about during my EQ years
22:22.49Silviu-We just killed heigan too
22:22.52Silviu-default ui`s
22:23.04leech2ksylvanaar: It was a bit of a shock to me also I had a single key squishy macro.
22:23.06Fiskeranyways blizzard has stated that encounters has been made with addons in mind
22:23.11leech2kI actually have to push buttons now.
22:23.13Fiskerthus encounters like noth and heigan should get nerfed
22:23.15Firedancertuller, i <3 vBagnon. I wish a site was up so i could post a suggestion :o
22:23.17Tekkuband people say you can't raid with default UI *eyeroll*
22:23.22leech2kMaxxna is so easy now though with stacking hots!
22:23.27mjcFisker: grid and clique make noth and heigan pretty easy
22:23.37Fiskeri dunno if it does
22:23.49mjcnot as easy as detox and decursive did
22:23.52AmadeoTuller: That's basically all I had in the early WoW days :)
22:23.59mjcbut not really hard at all though
22:24.00Fiskerbut i still think they either gotta "redesign" their encounters based on the current wow
22:24.01leech2kJust put a mage or druid in every group for Noth and its easy.
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22:24.08Amadeowoops
22:24.11FiskerOr atleast admit they were bullshitting when they said it
22:24.11AmadeoTuller = Tekkub
22:24.19Tekkubniet
22:24.23Tullerneit
22:24.25Fiskernein
22:24.27mjcFisker: they changed all the talents and such so that it's not as hard...
22:24.33Firedancerlol
22:24.33dafireha hi Tuller :) i have a question .)
22:24.36TullerI don't speak spanish
22:24.45Firedancernon (french) :p
22:24.48Tullerdafire: and that question is
22:24.50Amadeoargh, I meant to speak to Tekkub instead of Tuller, that's what I'm saying...my hands are frozen, can hardly type :P
22:24.51sylvanaarthe encounters have already changed due to the changes to the game mechanics
22:24.53KemayoI'm getting update notifications from WoWI.  Now if I could only reach it myself to put up a bugfix... ;_;
22:24.53Fiskermjc talents doesn't add auto-targetting and such :)
22:24.54leech2klol yeah our raid dps was atleast 10% higher after patch
22:25.08mjcFisker: you don't need auto targetting anymroe because shit doesn't kill you as fast
22:25.08jaxdahl2sylvanaar, maexxna = loot pinata squared
22:25.15sylvanaari bet
22:25.21dafireon bongos with my warrior .. it changes bars with stances on 6, 7 and 8, right ? why don't it use 1 for one stance ?
22:25.25FiskerI'd still say that there's something fishy in "We're testing all encounters without addons" and "Some encounters have purposely been designed with addons in mind"
22:25.30jaxdahl2one guild reported doing 18% damage in 6 seconds
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22:25.33mjcdafire: blizz barsa work that way
22:25.35mjc-a
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22:25.59mjcFisker: you are thinking too much into it, and as usual, have proven yourself a retard :)
22:26.00jaxdahl2which is nearly 300k
22:26.05Tullerdafire: because the deault interface does not
22:26.10Fiskernot really mjc
22:26.11leech2kI want to do cthun in one invlun
22:26.13_Alastair_hey what is the best way to get spell info using ace2, is there a lib for it?
22:26.15dafireand i tried to also change bar 2 on change of stance .. but i couldn't set it up
22:26.19leech2kvuln*
22:26.32sylvanaaryeah - this is the content nerf, you get to play in overpowered mode for a while until tbc
22:26.50Fiskeri just want some somewhat coherent responses from blizzard
22:26.56leech2kits free crappy loot time! because bc greens are better
22:27.08sylvanaarthey arent better
22:27.13Fiskerinstead of 1+1 = 2 one day and 1+1 = 3 the next day
22:27.13leech2kI know
22:27.29Firedancerwhenever I log in my warrior (I use bongos as well) I have to stance dance to get a bar to come up, then it wirks fine
22:27.33sylvanaarbut they are almost as good, sorta the same thing
22:27.39Firedancers/wirks/works/
22:27.41Fiskerso in closing, i didn't actually had anything in mind for the encounters just a witty remark about blizzard's responses
22:27.42nymbiai wish they were better.  my mage has gotten one sidegrade worth wearing through 66.
22:27.43Fiskerand designs
22:27.54TullerFiredancer: that's fixed in mine
22:27.59Firedancerah cool
22:28.12_Alastair_what is the best way to get spell info using ace2, is there a lib for it? say the rank of cheap shot used
22:28.13FiskerAnd as it seems even a retard(me) could get that reference
22:28.22Firedancerhm. wowi has a extremely low bandwidth site going now. i actually could get to it :F
22:28.24sylvanaarright - thats the thing if you have epics you wont enjoy tbc as much as someone who is getting new loot on day 1
22:28.24Firedancererr :D
22:28.28KemayoAnyone know whether TargetByName is protected now?
22:28.33mjcyes
22:28.45sbugm ok
22:28.45mjcBigWigs_KLHTMTarget is no more because of it
22:28.46Fiskeryou can target focus targets though i think
22:29.03KarlThePagani doubt it
22:29.17dafiredoes anybody know the mod healbot ?
22:29.30nymbiacan't automatically focus, no. it's all secure.
22:29.33dafirei heard it can still do forbidden things in chat but i don't know it
22:29.37Fiskernot what i meant nymbia :P
22:29.38TheKarnis there a way to change my SVN mirror?
22:29.49nymbiaFisker: ah
22:29.58Fiskerjust that you could target an already set focus target
22:29.59Fisker:P
22:30.02Fiskerand spellcast
22:30.11TullerFiredancer: I haven't released that version yet :)
22:30.12mjcTheKarn: svn help sw
22:30.16Tekkubhttp://player.clipsyndicate.com/player/play_clip/67030
22:30.20FiredancerTuller: I know vBagnon is a WIP, but is there a chance that at some point there will be a way to remove things from the "Items" view if they are being viewed as a separate category
22:30.21Fiskeri'm wondering though
22:30.28KarlThePaganTheKarn using Tortoise you want the Relocate item
22:30.37Firedancerand yah, i was trying to get there to post a comment with what i just said about vbaganon :D
22:30.40FiskerIf i was to set a focus target on Jindo's totem it wouldn't carry through to the next one right?
22:30.43Firedancervbagnon*
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22:31.01nymbiaFisker: right. it's a particular unit, not a particular name.
22:31.02Bapsfire: have you played with the exclude rules?
22:31.06TullerFiredancer: not in the near future
22:31.08Bapsyou might be able to do that now
22:31.41Nickenyfikenbah how come the SVN never works for me
22:31.44Firedancerhrm. I'll have to look into it. I tried to figure some stuff out but eventually just let it be one big blob of stuff ;p
22:31.56Firedanceri really like it tho
22:32.20Tullernext up is getting stances to work how poeple want to
22:32.21Bapsnot that I use the categories myself.. but it seems you ought to be able to make a "include items, exclude trade skill"
22:32.35Bapsfor example
22:32.43mircoCouldnt an addon just help me target the right people for decurse and i cast the spell by my self?
22:32.53Arrowmasterno
22:32.55Bapsmirco: nope.  that's not allowed anymore
22:33.11mircoBut mainassis can do that...
22:33.18lniceoRA2 broken?
22:33.40mirco'
22:33.45mircoMainassist
22:34.02Arrowmastercan do what?
22:34.36FiskerThere's no point in discussing this
22:34.36Nickenyfikenlalala
22:34.38Bapsmirco: if you just want the player frames, etc.. take a look at grid
22:34.48leech2klnice: Worked for me last night.
22:34.49mircoWell it can show me whos fighting what and then assist me..
22:34.51FiskerThere is no possibillity of full decursive functionallity
22:34.53Fiskerand that's that
22:35.00lniceI don't want it for that
22:35.01leech2klnice: Error?
22:35.06FiskerYou can get some addons like grid and clique to do it easier
22:35.09Fiskerbut that's about it
22:35.29KarlThePagan^ /signed
22:35.31lniceI have all my mods installed, if I use ora2, I get a ace2 blocking error
22:36.05VII|Beheritis this the only file in which Bartender3 Keybindings are saved? : \WTF\Account\INFINEON\SavedVariables\Bartender3.lua
22:36.17KarlThePaganwait fisker how would you change clique? (or does clique do more than just click-casting?)
22:36.19VII|Beheritalso if i delete all keybindings in this file they still stay
22:36.45leech2klnice: Hmm.. I haven't heard anything about that yet.
22:36.49Mikmahmm! seems like svn is starting to work
22:36.56Arrowmasterkeybindings are stored elsewhere
22:37.04VII|Beheritwhere pls
22:37.10VII|Beheriti need to delete them
22:37.15Fiskercurse-gaming also started working a bit
22:37.17VII|Beheritmy bartender is messed up
22:37.40VII|Beheriti got 2 keybindings for some actions
22:37.41Arrowmasterbindings-cache.wtf
22:37.43leech2klnice: try to catch ammo on he might know
22:38.07leech2klnice: [Ammo] actually I think
22:38.14anenigmaArrowmaster: are you sure bartender3 bindings are stored there?
22:38.16zoktarheh just started to bind keys aswell ;P
22:38.27zoktarall keys dissaperd just now ;P
22:38.28Nickenyfikenhmm tablet is buggy when using intendation and the tooltip is wide
22:38.32VII|Beheritanenigma they are stored in both files
22:38.33VII|Beherit:/
22:38.35steev64completely unrelated to addon development - whats with thrown weapons being broken?
22:38.36anenigmayeah they are
22:38.40anenigmamy bad :)
22:38.45lniceleech2k: thanks
22:38.49KarlThePagansteev64 repair em
22:38.54VII|Beheritthat sucks
22:39.02steev64KarlThePagan: tried last night, it wouldn't let me on my rogue or my warrior
22:39.03VII|Beheriti got different assignments in both files
22:39.27andremarsteev64: they use 1 durrability each throw, but are supposed to be repairable
22:39.41Fiskerbut boy do i hate that it's not even possible for autobar to update the current count in the frame
22:39.41KarlThePaganyea that's what i read... it must be a bug
22:39.42Arrowmastersteev64: are you talking about the thrown weapons that are named "Broken ...."
22:39.52FiskerI died on twin emperors because i thought i had a healing potion left :(
22:39.54VII|Beherithas anything changed in 2.0 on ouro. with the 1.5mins or 3mins timer?
22:39.58steev64Arrowmaster: yeah - the ones that i had before they patched
22:40.07Arrowmastertheyre trash now
22:40.08steev64that *weren't* "Broken ..."
22:40.09Arrowmasterbuy new ones
22:40.13steev64oh wtf
22:40.17steev64at least let me sell them back
22:40.21Arrowmasterbecause the itemes changed
22:40.23KarlThePaganoh... so if you acquired blue quality thrown weapons...
22:40.27KarlThePaganthey're garbage?
22:40.33steev64yep
22:40.41KarlThePaganlame
22:40.41CIA-1703eternally777 07TBC * r19522 10SacredBuff/SacredBuff/ (Libs/ SacredBuff.lua SacredBuff.toc UI.lua):
22:40.41CIA-17SacredBuff:
22:40.41CIA-17* Right-click isn't working on any button at the moment. Other than that, should be 2.0 compatible. Will trunk once I'm sure.
22:40.57anenigmagah.  damn mods using \ as directory seperator instead of /
22:41.03Arrowmasterotherwise you would have 200 different non stacking throwing weapons in your inventory each with 200 durabiility if they didnt make them "Broken"
22:41.22Eternally777Can someone give me a hand with that issue?  It's been driving me insane for 2-3 hours now
22:41.28steev64Arrowmaster: no, i get that
22:41.31KarlThePaganArrowmaster well if they had 0/200 durability what would be the harm?
22:41.32VII|Beheritso i deleted ALL keybindings from BT3 out of: bartender3.lua and from bindings-cache. but they are still there :X :X
22:41.33sbuewwwwwwwwwww
22:41.36steev64but what im saying is - let me SELL THEM BACK
22:41.37KarlThePaganyou can't disenchant them
22:41.47steev64or just sell em in general
22:41.48ArrowmasterKarlThePagan, they would takeup 200 inventory slots? which nobody has
22:41.55steev64all you can do is destroy them
22:41.58TainI got my HD-DVD player.  And movies.  Awww yeah.
22:42.03KarlThePaganmeh if you split the stacks before the upgrade that's your problem
22:42.16Arrowmasteryou dont get it
22:42.17Gnarfozhm, is there a way to have multiple keys bound to one button with bartender3? seeing it does not use Blizzards Key Binding dialogue
22:42.25andremaranyone made a waterlemental bar mod? :p
22:42.30KarlThePaganno arrow you don't get it i'm saying there was a more graceful way to do the upgrade
22:42.33KarlThePaganwithout exploits
22:42.41VII|BeheritGnarfoz ist not wanted but you can as i noticed now
22:42.49TekkubHD-DVD... *yawn*
22:42.50Arrowmasterbut requiring to scan everybodys inventory
22:42.51KarlThePagansince you can't disenchant thrown weapons
22:43.10KarlThePaganyou assume that would be required
22:43.15Arrowmasterit would
22:43.23TainYay movies!
22:43.36steev64and that doesn't happen any time you goto a vendor?
22:43.59steev64we just took 1/2 the work away from them
22:44.03sbuIceroth: still there?
22:44.23KarlThePaganhere's how it wouldn't - take away the item's quantity attribute, give it a durability attribute
22:44.39CIA-1703phyber * r19523 10SeriousBuffTimers/SeriousBuffTimers.lua:
22:44.40CIA-17SeriousBuffTimers:
22:44.40CIA-17- math.mod -> math.fmod. I missed one.
22:44.56Sachsphyber, what's'it'dooo?
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22:45.07phybernice format for buff timers
22:45.08Arrowmasterbefore the items stacked so you really had 200 different throwing weapons, so if they would have changed the item properties to have a durability (note that items with durabilitys never stack) then you would have 200 non stacking throwing weapons filling up all your inventory and your overflow inventory
22:45.10ckknighthey all
22:45.14nymbiahey ck
22:45.16TainNow that division by zero is possible everyone's going to have to update their math libraries.
22:45.20ckknightanyone wanna read a story about going on a rampage at work?
22:45.21Sachsphyber, got a screenshot? ;P
22:45.25HjalteEternally777: I know bartender3 has rightclick selfcast functionality. Maybe you could look at the code or have the author help you? I love your addon :)
22:45.32phyberSachs: moment...
22:45.41KarlThePaganarrow - but that's not 200 individual pieces of data on the DB... it's just 1 item with a quanitity attribute
22:45.45phyberSachs: http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_111606_194834.jpg
22:45.45Arrowmasterand then people would be like "why do these damn throwing daggers keep showing back up in my inventory every time i logon, i dont need more than 1"
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22:45.53phyberSachs: you can see it on Demon Armour on that shot.
22:46.08vhaarrhey ckk
22:46.17SachsAh, cool.
22:46.20vhaarrckknight: I checked in a Tablet-2.0 fix for scaling, if you want to check it.
22:46.27ckknightno, busy
22:46.33ckknightmaybe later
22:46.36Funkeh`anyone feel like stripping compost from simplecombatlog? :p
22:46.40KarlThePaganArrowmaster you're assuming that each item in the stack would magically explode into non-stacking items
22:46.41Arrowmasteryes so they would have to change 200 different items to be 1 item with a durability of 200, that would mean they would have to run a script on the entire inventory DB
22:46.43VII|Beheritphyber it looks same as ebb
22:46.45[1]Okiguys.. any of u have any news one IceHUD? :)
22:47.09KarlThePaganArrowmaster but that's just the definition of the item in how it behaves not changing massive amounts of data
22:47.15phyberVII|Beherit: I don't remember EBB formatting the time like that.  maybe it does in a recent version though :)
22:47.18leech2kphyber: looks nice
22:47.35CIA-1703kergoth * r19524 10kEnergy/ (frame.lua kEnergy.toc): kEnergy: fix silly bugs resulting from moving stuff from one file to another
22:47.37RyakThis is not a complaint, but a learning question, why do all of the mods now require seperate downloads of so many libraries?
22:47.46ArrowmasterKarlThePagan: but it is modifing the items players have and not just the items in general
22:47.49FiredancerBaps: thanks for reminding me that the cats had exclusiond...I think I can make it do what I want now :o
22:47.51VII|Beheritphyber time is 2m youre right
22:47.59Bapsfire: sure thing
22:48.03andremarRyak: its because the zip-generating script has problems fetching externals
22:48.06leech2kIcehud was update a bit ago....
22:48.08Bapsryak: it's because of the load.. it's having issues
22:48.25KarlThePaganArrowmaster not neccessarily - if there is a definition for the item and you take away the "quantity" attribute of it... then the stacks everywhere would just be individual items
22:48.25andremarsince most of the svn-mirrors are having troubles
22:48.26nymbiaRyak: the short answer is, because the site's hammered.
22:48.40vhaarrFisker: Did the Twins update work?
22:48.42KemayoIs there a list of now-protected functions anywhere?
22:48.44KarlThePaganwe're talking about a computer program not actual physical throwing knives
22:48.45RyakI see, so those are normally pulled in when I f12 the updater and put into the individual plugins library folder, but because of the current load it needs to be downloaded seperately
22:48.46Icerothsbu, barely
22:48.50ArrowmasterKarlThePagan, but items dont have 'quantities'
22:48.59nymbiaRyak: yup
22:49.03andremarphyber: is that perfect raid working in 2.0?
22:49.04Ryakthanks
22:49.08Bapsryak: yeah, they're not being packaged properly right now
22:49.11KarlThePaganevidence of this claim arrow? stacks have quantities on them... as well as maximum stack size
22:49.14Bapshopefully fixed soonish
22:49.22Baps(meaning when the rush dies down)
22:49.23Kaeltenfixed the stupid donation button :(
22:49.24Kaeltenlol
22:49.25ArrowmasterKarlThePagan, before the patch a stack of 200 throwing daggers was 200 different items
22:49.27leech2kanyone know why bigwigs counter for 4h marks get off by 1 a lot?
22:49.29Ryakno hurry, just thankful for all the hard work you guys do
22:49.31andremarRyak: just get the latest version thats bigger and then extract the latest into that dir afterwards
22:49.45phyberandremar: nah, that's a screenshot from a few weeks ago.
22:49.51andremaraha, ok
22:49.57KarlThePaganArrowmaster show me evidence that they were actually 200 separate pieces of data back on the servers that Blizzard operates
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22:51.04ArrowmasterKarlThePagan, i cannot but the fact that you can break up stacks and move them around or trade them indicates there is, unless they do things in some weird way
22:51.18AntiarcItem 1234, quantity 173
22:51.25AntiarcItem 1234, quantity 27
22:51.25KarlThePaganthat's how i see it...
22:51.28Bapsarrow: nah. it was one entry with a count on it
22:51.30AntiarcTwo rows in the DB
22:51.36KarlThePagansplitting a stack would actually create a separate item in the db
22:51.40AntiarcBingo
22:51.55Bapsand you could split it, which would make a new item with a count as well.. and the two counts would add up to the original count
22:52.05Bapsguarantee it
22:52.07KarlThePaganprobably transactional
22:52.08Arrowmasterok then so what happens when you have an item with a maxstacksize of 200 and now its 1
22:52.40KarlThePaganso that you can't exploit the splitting behavior like you could in SWG
22:52.40AntiarcFor all rows in the DB with item ID 1234, set the quantity to 1.
22:52.41KarlThePaganArrowmaster probably the others dissappear
22:52.41KarlThePagansince they actually never existed as real things
22:52.41Bapsyou change the definition of the item in the db and you alter the DB table
22:52.49KarlThePaganhave they ever decreased the stack size for an item in this game ever?
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22:52.57Bapsyou move them from the 'count' column to the 'durability' column
22:53.08AntiarcNot that I remember, Karl.
22:53.18KarlThePaganyea so the extras are probably gone
22:53.22AntiarcI know they've increased stack sizes, but that doesn't have the overflow problem.
22:53.23Bapsand max count to max durability
22:53.36Arrowmasterand all of those methods require running a command on the DB to modifiy everybodys inventorys
22:53.37Bapsit's not rocket science
22:53.42KarlThePaganwould be some work as baps suggested... i like that idea but i could understand if blizzard was a *little* lazy and just gave all of them 0 durability
22:53.46AntiarcArrowmaster: What do you think maintenance is for?
22:53.53KarlThePaganbut not as lazy as they are and just totally made the items worthless
22:54.03Arrowmasterhow big do you think that db is?
22:54.06AntiarcHuge.
22:54.10KarlThePaganAntiarc I'm betting maintenance is for database vacuum and such ;)
22:54.19AntiarcBut then, they were down for 18 hour or so.
22:54.20Arrowmasterand they would have to back it up before doing something like that
22:54.28AntiarcOf course.
22:54.30KarlThePagani do agree they probably don't have much time to mess with the db on a global basis
22:54.59Eejso uh, is bartender3 supposed to prevent me from using [button] in any of my macros?
22:55.03KarlThePagani wouldn't be suprized if they also backup the DB during maint
22:55.12Arrowmasteryeah all the smaller things they were doing during maintaince probably required the db to be pressent
22:55.22AntiarcI actually suspect that DB backups happen every few minutes.
22:55.30ckknighthttp://ace.pastey.net/3212-1b3c <-- someone read my English paper.
22:55.36AntiarcReason being that when you have a crash and rollback, you never lose more than 5-10 minutes worth of progress.
22:55.37KarlThePaganwell they could synch between local and SAN storage
22:55.53Arrowmasterit takes time to backup large ammounts of data and time to run a script on it all
22:55.56KarlThePaganstuff in the server's local memory vs transactions comitted
22:56.01ArrowmasterAntiarc, but those are saves not backups
22:56.07AntiarcNow if you do incremental backups like we do here at work, Arrowmaster :)
22:56.08Antiarcnot*
22:56.16AntiarcA full backup of our production DB takes ~36 hours
22:56.18BapsI'd expect that the databases are replicated live
22:56.28AntiarcAn incremental backup run every five minutes takes a few seconds
22:57.00KarlThePagandepends how much diffing to happen
22:57.16KarlThePaganand how they did the db
22:57.17AntiarcNaturally, but if you design the DB with incremental backups in mind, it's not hard to optimize.
22:57.23sylvanaarmost likely the rollbacks are just due to syncing
22:57.41CIA-1703kergoth * r19526 10kEnergy/addon.lua: kEnergy: Don't start the timer bar when we've got max energy (was ticking one too many times).
22:57.44KarlThePaganlol this whole discussion derailed the channel
22:57.52TainA small suggestion, a lot of people are getting addons from wowace.com/files or the svn, and there's been a lot of push from authors towards them getting updates there.
22:58.04Arrowmasterok given i havent had that much experience with different database systems i would still think that it would take a while to even do an incremental backup after changing character data for every single time any throwing weapon was found
22:58.08Arrowmasterthats a lot of data
22:58.10jaxdahl2check this out: http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9523 ... lag may be caused by cache folder not being created: Cache\WDB\enUS
22:58.17TainIt would be a nice thing to add a readme or something that explains what the addon does, and it's command options since people aren't actually updating at mod sites as muchc.
22:58.25AntiarcYou just have to do a one-time change during maint, really.
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22:58.37Bascohi
22:58.40AntiarcNo need to do it on the fly during playtime.
22:58.41nevcairielTain: thats up to the authors
22:58.58KarlThePaganjaxdahl2 nice find
22:59.04Bapsanitarc: depending on how they have it setup, it's often easier to do replication live
22:59.10TainYes nevcairiel, that's why I was offering a friendly suggestion to the authors.
22:59.12Eejso anyone know anything about my macro question? D:
22:59.12kergoththe script needs to watch for directory removals and move zips for addons that are no longer in svn into an archival dir
22:59.36AntiarcWell, I can only speak for my personal experience. We've found incremental backups to be faster, but Blizzard may do something differently. *shrug*
22:59.56KarlThePaganI'm not confident that they knew what they were getting into with an mmo
23:00.01Arrowmasteri think we all know that blizzard in general will always do something 'differently'
23:00.08TainNo one knows what they're getting into with an MMO.
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23:00.14Amadeohaha
23:00.16KarlThePagani'm not really confident there are many MMO teams who ... yea exactly tain
23:00.16Amadeotrue
23:00.17Bascoanyone got XRS working? it doesn't show errors for me, but even a /xrs shows "type /help...blah"
23:00.21TainIt is an evolving thing.
23:00.36AmadeoI don't even know if McQuaid knows what he's getting into with Vanguard :P
23:00.40AntiarcWasn't Blizzard hoping for something like...100k users after 1 year or something?
23:00.45TainYou don't go into it expecting you're going to have 7 million paying customers.  Hoping, sure.
23:00.52ckknightwhy are there so many people in here?
23:00.53AntiarcI remember reading something about how their expectations got utterly blown out of the water.
23:01.01Kaeltenckknight: don't complain lol
23:01.07TainThey heard you were here, ckknight
23:01.16KarlThePaganarmchair warfare > actual combat
23:01.16Arrowmasterbecause they all want to know when haste finishes updating each of his addons
23:01.20ckknighteveryone wants a piece of me.
23:01.21gerber^Cavisty[Aany viewport mod working in 2.0?
23:01.22wallenIt'd be D:\wow\Cache\WDB\enGB for the Europeans, right ?
23:01.26gerber^Cavisty[Aoskin isnt working =/
23:01.29hasteArrowmaster: kek?
23:01.45Arrowmasterhaste: joking answer to ckknights question
23:01.58hastewow
23:01.59Antiarcjaxdahl2: As far as the cache file goes, it hasn't been created in beta, either, and that didn't seem to lag me.
23:02.02haste215 !
23:02.04TainI am watching Batman Begins on HD-DVD!
23:02.10vhaarrGah, for fucks sake, I try to download Bandidas and I get some pr0n flick with the same name, rofl.
23:02.11hastewhen I started to hang here, there were like... 12
23:02.37AntiarcBut, it looks like those files weren't even being written in beta when the dir DID exist, so who knows.
23:02.38gix_hm, why are some dev-zips without externals, and some with? bug?
23:02.38KarlThePaganwoah.. yea my TBC client has a cache but not my live one
23:02.39Amadeovhaarr: Is it hot?
23:02.42KarlThePaganthose rat bastards
23:02.51kergothmy tbc client doesnt seem to have one :(
23:02.57Arrowmasterbtw the zip script thats been fubared so much recently, is it trying to pull externals from the same svn.wowace.com that everybody else uses?
23:03.10AntiarcKarlThePagan: what's the timestamp on your beta caches?
23:03.13vhaarrAmadeo: It's 01:28, there's bound to be something good in there somewhere.
23:03.29KarlThePaganAntiarc - 12/7/2006 9:17 am
23:03.32Amadeovhaarr: Maybe it's trying to tell you something
23:03.34KarlThePaganthat's when i was logged on this AM
23:03.50ggilbertOne of my guildies was having problem with the cache not being written either. I wonder if it's a missing config option now.
23:04.08mircoHmm i installed grid and ace 2... I get an error,, im missing a lib..
23:04.12Amadeowhere do you check for cache? what folder is it in?
23:04.21Bascomicro, which one?
23:04.23Grollread the link
23:04.28mircoSec...
23:04.29gix_it should be in the locale-directory
23:04.33Grollhttp://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9523
23:04.34mircoAnd its mirco :P
23:04.40Bascowhatever
23:04.45Arrowmasterggilbert, in an early ptr build WDB wasnt being writen at all, on a later ptr build WDB showed up in the cache dir, probably related to that
23:04.48mircoTabaso.. no :P
23:05.00AntiarcKarlThePagan: I guess they fixed it then. Huh.
23:05.04Bascoit's past midnight here and I am tired
23:05.07carlawhat do you recomend? that i install ace addons without the external libs and download the libs on their own and put them in the addons folder, or that I download all the addons with libs included?
23:05.09TainSpeaking of micro... BitTorrent bought out uTorrent. :/
23:05.18AntiarcNoooooooooooooooooooooooo
23:05.28_Alastair_does anyone have the api documentation saved for SpellStatusLib and parserlib?
23:05.33_Alastair_as wowace.com is down
23:05.38Taincarla: download the addons with the libs included in each directory.  IT's the better way.
23:05.38Amadeowow, I don't have a cache directory either
23:05.41AmadeoI'll try that
23:06.21TainTrying to maintain a separate Libs directory from the addons is more work, and does't have any benefit.
23:06.27mircorosterlib 2.0 I thinl..
23:06.29Grollwhuuut? bittorrent bought utorrent? noooooo :(
23:06.35mircoAnd instance of rosterlib 2.0
23:06.39KarlThePaganTain not using embed libraries is supposed to load faster
23:06.40Bascomirco: then download it
23:06.43KarlThePaganless code to parse
23:06.49mircoThanks tabasco :P
23:06.52AntiarcBut more problems to debug ;)
23:06.54sylvanaarplease dont incite a riot
23:06.55Bascoeasy :D
23:06.57GrollKarlThePagan it loads faster the first time you zone yes, after that no change
23:07.22KarlThePaganyea
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23:07.22KarlThePaganif it matters ;)
23:07.23CIA-1703neriak * r19527 10ClosetGnome/Locals/deDE.lua: ClosetGnome - fixed german locale, too lazy to translate all new stuff though .. maybe next days ;)
23:07.23mircoWell hard to get an overwiev of this with only a list of zip files :P
23:07.37carlaTain: thank you, I can only do that by downloading via SVN, right?
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23:07.46sylvanaarhow hard is translation?
23:07.53Sachsckknight, happy story. ;P You should write a kids book!
23:08.02ckknightSachs, it's for my writing class
23:08.09ckknightI had to write a fictional story about myself in the third person
23:08.20dafireKaelten: you could put a link to the irc channel on the offline page ;)
23:08.23ckknightso I talk about going postal on my coworkers and jumping off a skyscraper
23:08.23SachsLOL
23:08.23KemayoYay!  I managed to upload something to WoWI!
23:08.30nevcairiellol
23:08.35TainIdeally you want to download from a site like wowinterface.com, or curse-gaming.com, they'll have the most complete released version of an addon all together.
23:09.03TainBut sometimes you have to get it from the svn or wowace.com/files because addon authors around here are lazy and don't upload to sites.
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23:09.29sylvanaarProblem isnt laziness its the modularity
23:09.33Silviu-jaxdahl2 omg i love u !
23:09.39Bascotoo many sites
23:09.46sylvanaartoo many pieces
23:09.46TainToo many sites my ass.
23:09.47nevcairieli only upload to WoWI
23:09.48mircoYeah.. well with the bandwith problems on most sites.. cant say i blame me..
23:09.50jaxdahl2what did i do, Silviu-?
23:09.55Silviu-with that link
23:09.58Taintoo many pieces?  Where?
23:10.08jaxdahl2o ya
23:10.15Silviu-Actually works
23:10.31nevcairielits not lazyness .. well mostly .. but not every version an author uploads to SVN is a release
23:10.45nevcairielonly some versions make it onto release sites
23:11.04TainYes, but since it is so easy to point people at the svn some people do actual version releases a lot less.
23:11.21sylvanaarTain: stop antagonizing
23:11.44Tekkub"Iam wondering if galkas have more homo-erotic sex appeal than any of us realized when we first chose one"
23:11.48TainIt's not antagonizing, people can do updates however they want, they're not getting paid for it, it's a hobby.
23:11.57Tekkubfunny, galka were the whole reason I started playing FFXI
23:12.03Tekkuband thus playing MMOs
23:12.09TainIt's simply the truth, when a user goes looking for something that works sometimes they *have* to go to svn.
23:12.16sylvanaari never made it past level 12
23:12.29zoktardid someone find that addon that showed spell/skill cooldowns in SCT messages ?
23:12.30sylvanaarkept deleveling then i uninstlled it
23:12.53pastamanceryay, my mirror script actually handles externals properly now
23:12.57zoktar"bloodrage ready" or something like that
23:13.08Bascozoktar: isn't that in the options already?
23:13.12Bapspasta: yay!  now replace the one on the site with yours.  =)
23:13.17mircoStandalonelibraryes The rosterlib is in there.. But its empty.. Arg im so confused :P
23:13.35KarlThePaganREADME DAMNIT.txt
23:13.41Bapsmirco: read the readme dammit file
23:13.48pastamancerBaps: http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/
23:13.55pastamancerupdated once an hour
23:13.56mircoH,,
23:14.00KarlThePagan;)
23:14.21Bapspsata: and that's 200000 only, right?
23:14.27pastamancercorrect
23:14.34mircoMan... i gotta look closer before asking :P
23:14.40zoktarBasco not that i can find in sct i assume u meant
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23:14.49sylvanaarwhy not make it build a standalone zip with all the libs in it
23:15.00sylvanaarpastamancer: ^^
23:15.01dodgizzlahiya :D
23:15.10Bascozoktar: just checked..my bad
23:15.21pastamancersylvanaar: because I hate StandaloneLibraries
23:15.28restorednevcairiel: wonderful update fix :) Works perfectly now.
23:15.34sylvanaarpastamancer: ok
23:15.37restoredbt3 that is :D
23:15.37zoktarill need that now that i dont have lazyscript anymore ;P
23:16.35kergothhehe, kEnergy ticking away with the color set to itemqualityepic - http://kergoth.com:1980/images/wow_075.jpg
23:16.50zoktarBasco it can say when stuff fades, but not cds
23:16.52dafirei don't get castsequence working with the deDE client :(
23:17.15HjalteAny updates to kLagmeter? There's a tbc version in wowace.com/files, but it's not properly updated it seems
23:17.23Bascozoktar: then I don't know..using CoolDown here
23:17.43Grollhmm does one actually need ace2 if i use the libs that come with the addons?
23:17.49Sachskergoth, metahud?
23:17.52Grolljust somethign i kinda popped up in my head now :P
23:18.00kergothSachs, indeed
23:18.13zoktarBasco can it send to sct messages?
23:18.45kergothHjalte, grab ocblag off of wowi, i gave someone else maintainance of it.  should be functional
23:18.45dafirelooks like dhud
23:18.45Bascozoktar: no..it's purely a bars thingy
23:18.45zoktarhmm
23:18.55jaxdahl2soo apparently there's massive gold duping that was going on recently on the mannoroth server, but GMs are curtailing it, silencing and banning people
23:18.56zoktarguess ill try that meanwhile
23:19.42jaxdahl2http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9017/prettygooddealtk2.jpg http://ctscreens.net/1170
23:19.44gerber^Cavisty[Aviewport mods? any that work with 2.0/
23:19.57Grollpastamancer it aint possible to use aceupdater to access that site right?
23:20.09pastamancerGroll: I sure hope not
23:20.21Grolldarn :P
23:20.27Grollcause i tried but got an error hehe
23:20.56sylvanaarif he mirrors the index it would be
23:21.31pastamancerI'm building my mirror from the svn
23:22.08Grollah
23:22.11sylvanaarie. no index
23:22.24lnicegerber: you could use cr_viewport, but you have to edit manually.
23:22.49pastamanceroh, I see.  The 'descript.ion' file?
23:23.12Hjaltekergoth: thanks
23:23.14sylvanaarand the version files
23:23.20Goeb<PROTECTED>
23:23.39sylvanaarlatest.txt
23:23.41Goebwhat did they rename that to?
23:23.41KemayoGoeb: What addon?
23:23.42pastamancerah
23:23.52Goebkemayo- radar... don't ask ;)
23:24.07GoebI'm butchering it for 2.0
23:24.47Sachsgerber^Cavisty[A, I know CT_ViewPort works.
23:24.50GoebI know you can't target from an addon in combat... but is there a function that replaces TargetByName out of combat?
23:25.18BapsGoeb: try looking in the UI Addons and macros forum on the bliz site
23:25.28BapsI think it's dead dead.
23:25.29TheKarnsachs ... Skinner works for Viewport aswell
23:25.32Goebeek
23:26.41BascoI am off..nn to all whom it applies
23:26.58TainFor whom the Basco tolls.
23:28.35mirco!!!StandaloneLibraries doesnt contain a rosterlib-2.0
23:28.46mircoYeargh...
23:29.21gerber^Cavisty[ASachs, Well ya, CT_viewport, but i kinda wanted to stay in the ace region =)
23:29.22Mahirocan someone think of a reason why i get lag when i use mouse keys?
23:29.23sylvanaari think the name is still rosterlib
23:29.44mircoWell where do i get the winaceupdater..
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23:30.11LoSti:P at the moment...
23:30.26Jakobudsearch for 'wowaceupdater'
23:30.34TainCT_Viewport is so small it isn't really worth worrying about.  Ace wouldn't help that functionality at all.
23:30.49mircoLol.. so i really need all this to get grid to work?
23:31.08Eejwhat's a good ace buff display mod? just moved my minimap now my buffs are sort of hanging out in space all awkward-looking
23:31.17LoStielkanos buff bar
23:31.28vhaarrmirco: Would be pretty stupid to include it if it wasn't needed.
23:31.36Eejyeah i was just about to try that one out
23:31.47LoStibtw, the new Rogue Stealthanimation sucks hard :P
23:31.58Eejit looks hot on be females
23:32.03mircoWell vhaarr.. its not included.. im downloading all kinds of stuff
23:32.04kergothi must be blind, but i havent noticed a idfference in stealth animation on mine
23:32.05[ooth]AnessaSince 1.11 wow set the last joined channel as default channel for startup. With this command
23:32.05[ooth]Anessayou can set any channel as default channel. The specified <channelname> will be initialized at
23:32.05[ooth]Anessathe loading process.
23:32.05LoStinot realy...
23:32.08kergothdoes it not affect all racers?
23:32.24[ooth]Anessadoes prat or any ace mod have a fix for that in 2.0 ?
23:32.27LoStithink so?
23:32.28vhaarrmirco: It is included, it's just a bug that sometimes occurs that makes it not include stuff.
23:32.46LoStii only have a female nightelf *gna* and it looks like spasm...or sm
23:32.48mircoHmm.. so i gotta redownload grid?
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23:33.29Bapsmirco: get it from http://grid.13th-floor.org/wowace/Grid/Grid.zip
23:33.29pastamancermirco: if you can get to wowi, download it from there
23:33.43Bapsthat will have the embedded libs in it correctly
23:33.48Bapsthanks to pastamancer
23:33.58Jakobudwhat is Grid anyways, i keep hearing about it
23:34.08TainWhat is the matrix?
23:35.11SachsJakobud, it's whack-a-mole.
23:35.24vhaarrJakobud: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before bullet point 5.
23:36.14GrollJakobud it's a raid frame addon that kicks ass
23:36.24Mikmawho's ass
23:38.05SachsYour Moam's ass.
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23:38.26pastamancersylvanaar: try WAU on it now
23:38.47GildedHow do you get WAU to sort the list by addon name?
23:38.52sylvanaarrelink
23:38.58kergothhas anyone fixed antagonist to use the new spellcast events yet?
23:39.00pastamancer<PROTECTED>
23:39.16Mikmapastamancer: mirror?
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23:39.29pastamancerMikma: fancy mirror
23:39.30sylvanaargot the index
23:39.32mircoThanks.. that worked.. :)
23:39.39Mikmapastamancer: really really 100% working mirror?
23:39.45Eejstill sad that bartender breaks the [button] functionality of /cast
23:39.47Eej:<
23:39.56sylvanaardo you have the latest.txt files?
23:39.59CIA-1703TheKarn * r19528 10Grid/Grid.toc:
23:39.59CIA-17Grid:
23:40.00CIA-17- Rebuild Zip
23:40.15pastamancerMikma: at least 99% working.  only addons with 20000 in the toc, has all the externals it can find
23:40.20pastamancersylvanaar: yeah
23:40.36sylvanaari think they are out of sync rofl
23:41.02sylvanaaroh do you have the disembedded versions
23:41.02BarbanusStupid question, in WAU when you update with externals, vs without is there any increase in memory usage for your UIs if they share the same libraries?
23:41.11pastamancersylvanaar: only embedded
23:41.18TainMemory usage is exactly the same, Barbanus
23:41.22Mikmapastamancer: how are you able to mirror them in this lag?
23:41.25sylvanaaryeah, then i think its working
23:41.37pastamancerMikma: magic
23:41.39BarbanusTain, So really, it makes no difference other than the filesize?
23:41.51PsykovskyHey there, tried it with Bagnon and with Aced OneBag, when I click on any interactive item (say granade or poison) I get a message with text "Ace2 has been blocked from an action that is only availible to Blizzard UI. Disable it or reload ui" something like that, and it lets me chose between disable and ignore...
23:42.04SachsBarbanus, it gives the zipscript less of a chance to mess up. ;P
23:42.14vhaarrPsykovsky: Because you have some mod that taints it that is based on Ace2.
23:42.14BarbanusSachs, haha good point :)
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23:42.21TainYes Barbanus.  The benefit to using the embedded libraries with each addon is not having to worry about downloading a separate dependancy.
23:42.33BarbanusTain, cool, thanks :)
23:42.34Psykovskyvhaarr any sugestitions what could that be?
23:42.35vhaarrPsykovsky: Disable your addons one by one to find out which addon it is.
23:42.37sylvanaarpastamancer: yeah, works great, fast too
23:42.38TainIt's all included in each addon, tiny amount of disk space used extra.
23:42.53Haremwoooo you can point WAU at that grid mirror and it all works
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23:43.13Psykovskyhmm. maybe you could tell most popular one who could mess with bags interaction?
23:43.15Jakobudanyone know when OneBagSorter is gonna be brought up to 2.0?
23:43.20sylvanaaryou change WinAceUpdater.exe.config
23:43.38PsykovskyJagobah use Plow
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23:43.56BarbanusHarem, but is that mirror up to date?
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23:44.02HjaltePsykovsky: Plow os good, but OneBagSorter has potential of becoming much more
23:44.09vhaarrPsykovsky: It's not about bag interaction, it's probably about UseItem or something.
23:44.27CIA-1703badhex * r19529 10SliceWatcher/SliceWatcher.lua: SliceWatcher: - Attempting to fix the combopoint bar.
23:44.53Mahiroargh is there an other actionbar mod than bartendet3?
23:45.05vid`bongos
23:45.06Jakobudflexbar :-P
23:45.10Hjaltemahiro: trinity
23:45.12Goebpasta- do you have them without externals too?
23:45.12LoStiBongos ftw..
23:45.19vid`whats wrong with BT3?
23:45.21CIA-1703kergoth * r19530 10LootAlert/ (LootAlert.toc core.lua): LootAlert: kill SpecialEventsEmbed optionaldep.
23:45.22HaremBarbanus, seems pretty recent
23:45.22pastamancerGoeb: working on it
23:45.27vid`i never used anything but BT3
23:45.27Goebsweet
23:45.30vid`everyone seems to love bongos
23:45.33vid`but i havent seen it
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23:45.40todddoes oSkin do bottom frames?
23:45.41Mahirowell i cant use my mousebuttons without huge lags
23:45.42LoStiVery nice Mod belive me ;)
23:45.53odttodd: skinner does
23:45.57odtand it works in 2.0
23:46.06toddyeah, i was just wondering about oskin though
23:46.15Snagoany place where i can find the library api while wiki is down?
23:46.18odtoskin is discontinued if i'm correct
23:46.36Arrowmasterit does? when i used the '2.0' version of skinner yesterday it tainted most of my interface and i couldnt do anything
23:46.40Makkgood alternative to lootlink?
23:46.41sbuSaroz? :)
23:46.43pastamancerthe no-ext zips might be a bit funky
23:46.50_Alastair_will spellstatuslib be updated to wow2.0?
23:46.50Tainhah hah Batman Begins is such a great movie.
23:46.53odtArrowmaster: hmm, i'm using it without major problems
23:46.56sbuSaroz: WTB enable-in-party option for sRaidFrames ;p
23:46.58vhaarr_Alastair_: No, why would it?
23:46.59Goebpasta- define funky
23:47.00odtonly the inspect frame is not skinned
23:47.02toddi'm using skinner fine right now
23:47.07TainMakk: KC_Items.  If it's working.
23:47.08toddi keep everything unskinned
23:47.14toddand just use it for the bottom frame
23:47.16Arrowmasterodt: try opening your interface options and enabling/disabling ToT
23:47.19pastamancerGoeb: missing the libs directory if there wasn't anything in it.  they should work fine though
23:47.20toddand skinned tooltips
23:47.24kergothTain, yes, i love tha tmovie
23:47.27CIA-1703kergoth * r19531 10/tags/LootAlert/ (. 1.0/): LootAlert: Tag version 1.0 (renamed msbtloot).
23:47.29odtArrowmaster: ToT?
23:47.33Arrowmastertarget of target
23:47.34_Alastair_has something replaced it?
23:47.39Tainkergoth: watcing it as my first HD-DVD movie right now.
23:47.39odti don't use it, i have aguf
23:47.49vhaarr_Alastair_: Did you read the UI patch notes?
23:47.55Arrowmasteryeah but changing that setting tainted my interface
23:47.59_Alastair_thought i did
23:47.59Arrowmastermajorly
23:48.04_Alastair_must have missed something
23:48.09vhaarrindeed you did
23:48.31CIA-1703kergoth * r19532 10/tags/kEnergy/ (. 0.1/): kEnergy: Tag version 0.1.
23:48.45_Alastair_the wow2.0 ones?
23:49.23Sarozsbu, in party?
23:49.32sbuSaroz: yep :p
23:49.33jaxdahl2Arrowmaster, probably something tried to hook it?
23:49.36Saroznonono
23:49.49sbuSaroz: since aguf function to hide in raid doesnt work... i need partyframes ;)
23:50.16Arrowmasterjaxdahl2: like what im not using anything that messes with the blizz frames
23:51.39CIA-1703phyber * r19533 10Teknicolor_tab/Teknicolor_tab.toc:
23:51.39CIA-17Teknicolor_tab:
23:51.39CIA-17- TOC update.
23:51.48_Alastair_hmm i am being blind
23:52.19_Alastair_what would be the api to find the rank of fade?
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23:53.37TheKarnhttp://ace.pastey.net/3217
23:54.04pastamancerok, it looks like I'm done screwing around with my mirror script, it updates 10 minutes past the hour.
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23:55.00sylvanaarcool pasta, thanks
23:55.10_Alastair_anyone? i cant see it, must be being blind
23:55.25Eternally777_Alastair_
23:55.32Eternally777bah.. that wasn't the comma key
23:55.35pastamancerI dare not share the mirror script though.  It's one of those quick perl hacks that nobody wants to look at.
23:55.51vhaarr_Alastair_: You're blind as a bat.
23:55.58_Alastair_tired
23:56.00Eternally777Prepatch, you had to parse tooltips
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23:56.02vhaarr_Alastair_: Searching the UI notes for "rank" gives you the answer, man.
23:56.04vhaarrfor gods sake
23:56.17Eternally777Don't know if that's changed.
23:56.24Eternally777And somebody needs a hug.
23:56.43_Alastair_i rtiied using this one name, rank = GetItemSpell(item)
23:56.46Eternally777~whalehug vhaar
23:56.54purlACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug vhaar
23:56.54_Alastair_but it didnt work
23:57.00Barbanuspastamancer, what does your mirror script do, just downloads wowace.com/files ?
23:57.06Eternally777That's becasue GetItemSpell() is for items.
23:57.10Eternally777Not spells.
23:57.15HjalteSome addon taints my spellbook spells. It happens after some time or when i close and reopen my spellbook. Taintchecker says:"SpellBookSkillLineTab2["tooltip"] now tainted"
23:57.23odtdid some pvp today, 7500 new honor points
23:57.34Eternally777GetSpellName() returns the spell name and rank i think
23:57.34ArrowmasterHjalte, using skinner?
23:57.46HjalteArrowmaster: I'm not using skinner
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23:57.58Eternally777but you have to search the second returned value for the word rank, because sometimes the second value isn't the rank.
23:58.24pastamancerBarbanus: no, it grabs from the svn, resolves externals in a sane manner and then makes zips
23:59.03Jenshttp://www.wowace.com/files/FuBar/FuBar.zip <-- Doesn't contain libs :(
23:59.03BarbanusI'd be willing to host a mirror, but I'm afraid how fast it would burn through 1TB of bandwidth :P
23:59.19pastamancerI have enough bandwidth
23:59.23zoktarby what i read of MSBT u could add it to display CDs ?
23:59.30Mahiroso where can i find a flexbar version for 2.0?
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23:59.55mjc~seen sairenn

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