irclog2html for #wowace on 20061130

00:00.28nymbiayeah.. i had a feeling the author had just worded that badly
00:01.15sylvanaari did a lan trace to see
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00:06.29PProvostDoes anyone know who killed the descript.ion file from the files server?
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00:07.16nymbiaprobably the webserverin' company.  the site was down and kael called them.. they were doing a disk scan or something.
00:07.42sylvanaarthere is something that isnt 100% clear to me, are optional dependancies, i think the word is transitive, im trying to ask, do i need to add the optdeps for modules i have optdeps on into my own optdepts
00:08.13sylvanaari have been doing it but it seems redundant
00:08.51wereHamster|zZzdid I miss something or has dev.wowace.com  been replaces by svn.wowace.com?
00:10.08nymbiasylvanaar: if you directly use them and there's a chance that the 'middleman' mod there won't be loaded, then yes.
00:11.30sylvanaarhmm...oh, you know i know why im confused - embedded libraries have no toc
00:12.03sylvanaarthats why i have to add them
00:12.18ckknightwereHamster|zZz, for developers, yes.
00:15.28sylvanaarat least that makes me load after any standalone version of them...hmm
00:17.33PProvostSo, if anyone asks, the reason there are no descriptions in WowAceUpdater at this point is that someone (noone  knows who) dumped the index file on the files server.
00:17.47PProvostWe regenerated it, but the descriptions won
00:18.02PProvostwon't come back until each addon is re-committed to the SVN
00:18.24nymbiapain in the ass :(
00:18.26ckknightseriously?
00:18.30PProvostYep
00:18.36PProvostNobody knows who did it.
00:18.52nymbiai blame the host =\
00:18.53ckknightlet's blame someone at random.
00:19.02ckknightnymbia, it was you, wasn't it?
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00:19.05sylvanaar~blame
00:19.07nymbiayes
00:19.17sylvanaarsomeone should add that
00:19.20PProvostclad regenerated me a dummy one for now, but it is empty exception for the addon name and "Description not found"
00:19.45ckknight~blame nymbia
00:19.46purlACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:19.52ckknightlol.
00:19.56sylvanaar~blame random
00:19.57purlACTION blames random (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:20.08PProvostAlways Canada. :)
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00:20.35ckknight~blame $rnick
00:20.37purlACTION blames $rnick (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:20.40ckknightmeh.
00:20.46ckknight~blame $randnick
00:20.48purlACTION blames $randnick (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:20.56ckknightyea, purl won't take variables like that.
00:22.22AmadeoThis Sci-Fi show is pretty fun
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00:23.23ckknightyour mom's pretty fun.
00:23.32ckknighthey [Liquidor]
00:24.46Greywindyay! !!!Libs has been purged, boo the svn is fuxxored :P
00:25.07ckknightwhy is the svn fuxxored?
00:25.08[Liquidor]hi ckknight, long time since :)
00:25.26SP|Sorrenwho do i speak to to get access to the svn? i fired off an email a week ago, but so far no response ;o
00:25.33ckknightSP|Sorren, cladhaire
00:25.43SP|Sorrencool
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00:26.02Freedonwhat happened to !!!Libs?
00:26.08nymbiai ate it
00:26.16nymbiait was tasty.
00:26.19Freedonno what really happened?
00:26.27sylvanaarim learning about purl
00:26.30nymbiait was deleted for causing so many problems
00:26.36sylvanaarx de en guten tag
00:26.52Freedonso whats the new library thing?
00:26.57ckknightI destroyed it!
00:26.58sylvanaaronly works in tells
00:26.58PProvostStandalone
00:27.03ckknightand picked up 1 Silver, 29 Copper
00:27.05DrDreuh it wasnt ever the main one? lol
00:27.06kergoth~listkeys CMD: whale
00:27.10Freedonckknight WHY?!?!?!
00:27.13DrDrestandalonelibaries and read the readme >_>
00:27.17PProvostYep
00:27.18ckknightbecause it was evil.
00:27.23kergoth~whalelottery ckknight
00:27.25purlACTION launches a giant lottery ball into ckknight's tubes. Theodore swallows it
00:27.25PProvostE-V-I-L
00:27.28Freedon!!!StandaloneLibraries
00:27.31Freedonis the new one?
00:27.34DrDreits not new
00:27.36nymbiathere's no specific 'thing' -- download standalone versions of the librarys you use
00:27.37DrDrebeen there for a while
00:27.40SP|Sorren~whalelottery
00:27.41PProvostIt is different. It is not new. Read the readme
00:27.41kergoth~whalelemmings sylvanaar
00:27.43purlACTION 's jaw drops as an army of lemmings escape the mouth of a rather sizeable whale named Remus. The army tramples sylvanaar
00:27.43DrDrebut read the readme or its not going to work :P
00:27.47ckknightFreedon, use standalone libraries.
00:27.53Freedonoh god
00:27.55ckknightor embeds.
00:27.57Freedonyou want me to download
00:27.59Freedoneach one?
00:28.02ckknightyes
00:28.03DrDreuse WAU
00:28.05DrDreitll dl them for you
00:28.05ckknightnow stop complaining.
00:28.16Freedondamn
00:28.21Freedoni gotta know which libraries to use now
00:28.23DrDreits not a problem with wau >_>
00:28.26sylvanaarguys, do an hourly build of a standalones zip
00:28.34PProvostFreedon, no you don't. Read the readme.
00:28.38PProvostIJW = It Just Works
00:28.55FreedonPProvost, where?
00:28.59DrDre>_>
00:29.08PProvosthttp://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater
00:29.10FreedonMy old !!!Libs?
00:29.11DrDreit MIGHT be in the zip file you download :P
00:29.15sylvanaarPProvost: has it been updated
00:29.18DrDrefor !!!StandAloneLibaries
00:29.28PProvostRead the readme...
00:29.59DrDrehttp://wowace.com/files/!!!StandaloneLibraries/!!!StandaloneLibraries.zip there i did the work for you :P
00:30.18Freedonread the readme from there?
00:30.22Freedonehh
00:30.24KirkburnUh, why has http://www.wowace.com/files/ just changed?
00:30.28Freedoni just download them manually
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00:31.17DrDrewhy would you do that
00:31.24Freedonfirst off, what's wrong with the original !!!Libs?
00:31.27DrDrejust use WAU lol
00:31.31Freedoni am
00:31.32PProvostKirkburn, because someone deleted the descript.ion file that it depends on.
00:31.34sylvanaarFreedon: !!!Libs must go
00:31.38PProvostWe're working on that.
00:31.38ckknightit was always out of date and causing problems for people, Freedon
00:32.00PProvostsylvanaar, updated?
00:32.01Freedonnever harmed me :(
00:32.09KirkburnEarlier it looked correct, but was missing the descrips, but now it's just a text file?
00:32.24sylvanaarPProvost: yeah, bugs fixed, etc
00:32.44KirkburnPProvost, I saw the it about WAU and the descrips earlier, sounds v annoying :/
00:32.56SP|Sorreni happen to have a tab with the old www.wowace.com/files/ on it, can you parse that if i copy/paste it into a new descript.ion?
00:33.13PProvostSP|Sorren, if you have it please send it to me.
00:33.16DrDrei prolly could sorren
00:33.21PProvostNo...
00:33.25DrDrei can write a php script to do it :P
00:33.26FreedonIs it me or is !!!StandaloneLibraries missing some folders from !!!Libs?
00:33.28sylvanaarwhy cant you generate the standalone libraries zip containing the full libraries - on a chron schedule
00:33.37PProvostThe descript.ion file is differnet
00:33.42PProvostGotta go... back in a few...
00:33.57SP|Sorrenjust a sec
00:34.03ckknightsylvanaar, we shouldn't have to anyway. People should be using standalones or embeds. Those are the only supported ways.
00:34.13ckknightany other way is unsupported and prone to error.
00:34.27sylvanaaryeah but standalones requires a tool - if you zip the stuff up it doesnt
00:34.38ckknightthere were issues with libraries only working in !!!Libs or only working in embeds, now that whole kerfuffle is taken care of.
00:34.55DrDreFreedon: standalone has all the main libaries in it i havnt had an addon yet (and i have over 100 ace addons) that needs a lib it doesnt have
00:35.06nymbiasylvanaar: no tool is required if addons have their optdeps set correctly.
00:35.07sylvanaarif you do it on a timer - its good enough
00:35.13Freedonone missing was like special events aimed shot
00:35.36sylvanaarnymbia: ...
00:35.44Freedonmaybe that was an old library
00:35.49ckknightnymbia, tool for upgrading.
00:35.52SP|Sorrenhttp://www.astraycat.net/wowacefiles.txt <--old descriptions
00:36.09Freedonwhy was it changed?
00:36.31sylvanaardescript.ion is a zip standard name
00:36.43ckknight!!!Libs should've never been made :-P
00:37.08FreedonWhy was the description taken away from the wowace.com/files?
00:37.14DrDreits libs wasnt updated when a lib was updated was it ckknight?
00:37.20DrDrethat was explained jus a min ago free >_>
00:37.28ckknightright, DrDre, that's the main big reason
00:37.39Freedondee de dee?
00:37.42ckknightanother reason is that there were breakages because of it (remember CandyBar)
00:37.59FreedonNow I feel like I'm using too many addons :(
00:38.00nymbiasulvanaar: i dont understand why you're fighting so hard for !!!Libs, as killing it is THE solution to the problems you posted about in the libraries forum.
00:38.10sylvanaarim saying that just build the standalones with the actual libraries in them no empty folders
00:38.21sylvanaarnymbia: did you read my post
00:38.22DrDredrop standalone libs folders into addons > run WAU > edit > select all installed > file > update > with externals > your updated :P
00:38.52Freedonwith externals?
00:39.01Freedonit downloaded the neccessary crap without externals
00:39.15sylvanaarnymbia: it is not THE solution it is actually, a very bad solution to THE problem
00:39.22DrDreif u use fubar 1.2 plugins you MUST do with externals on fubar1.2 compat
00:39.37DrDrei think 1 or 2 other libs require a with externals too
00:39.55DrDreu jus gotta do it once tho
00:40.07DrDreon those buggy ones
00:40.13DrDrecuz they arnt ever updated anymore :P
00:40.48DrDreerr yeah im not thinking properly >_>
00:41.02DrDredo a with externals on fubar 1.2 compat then without on rest
00:41.50DrDreckknight: could you make those libs 1.2compat uses not externals so it doesnt mess up on "without externals" update?
00:41.50nymbiasylvanaar: why?  what's the problem with standalone libraries for advanced users who want to disembed, and embeds for everyone else?
00:42.14sylvanaarnymbia: nothing thats exactly what i have been saying
00:42.18DrDrenymbia: i think you didnt read our entire chat lol
00:42.22ckknightI don't see the point. It's not supported in a week.
00:42.34DrDrewe was discussing difference between !!!Libs and StandaloneLiaries
00:42.47DrDre1.2 plugins wont work :( ?
00:43.27sylvanaarnymbia: which i why i dont understand why you are being so contrary, im not trying to destroy the world
00:43.40nymbiaDrDre: i'm talking about stand alone libraries, not the !!StandaloneLibraries zip.
00:43.58DrDrewe wasnt saying anything was wrong with those
00:44.10ckknightDrDre, no, they won't. I'm abandoning all support for my pre-2.0 libs.
00:44.28DrDrewe was talking bout !!!libs being out of date, and sylv asked couldnt u jus auto update standalone libs with latest eveyr hr instead of blank folders
00:44.35DrDreso ppl could still keep all libs in 1 folder
00:44.41nymbiasylvanaar:  i'm just wondering why you say the solution isn't a good one.
00:44.41ckknightbut you shouldn't.
00:44.51ckknight!!!Libs is bad, even if it was up to date.
00:45.26DrDrebleh we need an update to MarkOfHonorFu then :o
00:45.52sylvanaarnymbia: ask ck he said it too
00:46.14nymbiahuh?
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00:46.37ckknightwhat did I say?
00:46.45sylvanaarnymbia: !!!libs are bad
00:46.55sylvanaarckknight: ^^
00:47.12ckknight!!!Libs is bad.
00:47.19nymbiasylvanaar:  i think you're confused.
00:47.30sylvanaarnymbia: no
00:47.38nymbia" sylvanaar: i dont understand why you're fighting so hard for !!!Libs, as killing it is THE solution to the problems you posted about in the libraries forum."
00:47.50nymbia"<sylvanaar> nymbia: it is not THE solution it is actually, a very bad solution to THE problem"
00:48.00nymbia"<nymbia> sylvanaar: why?  what's the problem with standalone libraries for advanced users who want to disembed, and embeds for everyone else?"
00:48.09Funkeh`whats up wiht all the downtime lately? =/
00:48.15ckknightif you want to replicate the use of libs, that's fine, just don't expect support for your hack. That's all.
00:48.31sylvanaarnymbia: perhaps, however, i wasnt fighting hard for libs
00:48.35ckknightstandalone libraries are more efficient.
00:48.41ckknightand !!!Libs caused problems
00:48.42ckknightthat's all
00:49.07ckknightreason standalone libs are more efficient is because they're LoD instead of being loaded all at once
00:49.10sylvanaarnymbia: so you were congfused too
00:49.58sylvanaarnymbia: i read it as "!!!Libs is THE solution to the problems"
00:50.08pastamancerpersonally, I'd rather see only embedded libraries supported
00:50.11nymbiackknight: plus it's very unlikely that a given user will use every single library in !!!Libs
00:50.25nymbiawhich = wasted memory
00:50.39ckknightpastamancer, yea, but they're a pain for me to update
00:50.44ckknightand I'm looking out for number one.
00:50.47DrDrepastamancer: for people with 200+ addons saving space/load times helps :P
00:51.01kergothusing embeds slows down loading time for competent users maintaining their addon compilations
00:51.05kergothDrDre, :)
00:51.25DrDrei have around 220
00:51.29DrDretakes me a while to load :x
00:51.30pastamancerckknight: that doesn't mean your way needs to be supported :p
00:51.33kergoths/same/too/
00:51.46DrDredun think purl: does it on /me's lol
00:52.02ckknightpastamancer, true, except I define support, so it's a moot point anyway
00:52.25sylvanaarif you offered a prebuilt standalone libs - the would be more accessable
00:52.25ckknight:-P
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00:52.25Funkeh`i lookat what libs and addon needs and downlaod it as an extra addon. then i use WAU and update without libs. that way updates libraries and adddons. worked for me fine.
00:52.41DrDreusing a single folder for libs isnt going to speed up addon updating if your using WAU >_> and why would you not use WAU? lol
00:52.52nymbiaFunkeh`: that's what every single person who used !!!Libs should have been doing this whole time ;)
00:53.02Funkeh`:)
00:53.14kergotheach lib should either be embedded, or an indepedent addon.  cramming a bunch into one causes more problems than it solves, imo
00:53.18sylvanaarits so i can post the link for the people who use my addon
00:53.38*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | !!!Libs has been purged. Use standalones or embeds instead. !!!Libs is not coming back.
00:53.53Thrae!!!Libs and the like was intended for developers and tweakers who wanted to see a better estimate of each addon's initial memory usage.
00:54.18KarlThePaganI've been going without externals recently and just downloading libs one by one
00:54.36nymbiackknight, add that 2.0's slated for the 5th/6th.. just in case anyone's been living under a rock
00:54.37KarlThePaganthe only annoying part is the noise in the error log
00:54.44pastamancerckknight: then again, I'd rather see wowi and dev svn be the only way to get addons.
00:54.55Funkeh`yeah
00:54.57Funkeh`cant wait
00:54.58ckknightpastamancer, yea, me too :-P
00:55.11Funkeh`sapphiron manual dispelling! :)
00:55.16ckknightour topic is too long...
00:55.28nymbiait's getting there ;)
00:55.34KarlThePagantinyurl lol
00:55.41*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | !!!Libs has been purged. Use standalones or embeds instead. !!!Libs is not coming back. | WoW 2.0 scheduled
00:55.42Funkeh`rofl
00:55.44ckknightyep
00:55.48nymbiahaha
00:55.50ckknightthat's too long
00:55.50Funkeh`:P
00:55.55nymbiathat's all they need to know, anyway ;)
00:56.02pastamancerI almost kept Grid on a private svn server because of that, but maia wanted it on ace svn
00:56.30DrDrecould prolly purge some urls lol
00:56.34*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | !!!Libs has been purged. Use standalones or embeds instead. | WoW 2.0 scheduled for December 5th
00:56.53*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | WoW 2.0 scheduled for December 5th | !!!Libs has been purged. Use standalones or embeds instead.
00:57.00ckknightthat's good for now
00:57.03pastamanceryou could get rid of the trac url
00:57.15pastamancerunless it's been resurrected
00:57.51SP|Sorrenwowace.com go kalbooie again?
00:58.21pastamancerso it would seem
00:59.47nymbiai suppose it's my fault this time too? :(
00:59.47KarlThePagan~blame nymbia
00:59.56purlACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:59.56ckknight~blame nymbia
00:59.58purlACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
00:59.58KarlThePaganheh
00:59.58ckknight:-P
00:59.58nymbiarofl
01:00.00KarlThePaganpurl hates us
01:00.01ckknight~blame Canada
01:00.08purlACTION blames Canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
01:00.08nymbiayup
01:00.09nymbiaBOUT TIME
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01:00.17nymbialol
01:00.27Eternally777How does one find the level of a particular spell for use in the new +healing calculation?
01:00.59KarlThePaganis that information even present in the UI?
01:01.09KarlThePaganjust the rank number
01:01.14nymbiaEternally777: that's actually a good question... i'm not sure if we have access to it.
01:01.15pastamancerEternally777: I imagine you'd need a lookup table
01:01.31KarlThePaganI expect Theorycraft will do that
01:01.34Eternally777Right...  Bummer
01:01.40Eternally777Is theorycraft still being updated?
01:01.44KarlThePagannot sure
01:01.46Eternally777I haven't heard from the author in months
01:02.07Eternally777It's a resource hog, I know that much...
01:02.12KarlThePaganheh
01:02.20KarlThePagansomeone should snag it before AL does ;)
01:02.32sylvanaarEternally777: only because of the actionbar updating
01:03.22sylvanaaralot of what it does isnt really even needed anymore
01:03.41Eternally777sylvanaar: I mean, the amount of code it contains seems excessive for its purposes.
01:03.43KarlThePaganoh I would find the information useful still
01:03.57Eternally777It looks like he started writing it, then lost control of it, and it turned into the mess that it is.
01:04.46KarlThePaganwith the new UI stuff (spell damage in paperdoll screen) it might be worth rewriting
01:04.47sylvanaarhe had to do alot of scanning for info that the client can give now
01:04.52KarlThePaganyea
01:05.09KarlThePaganstill the coefficient information is valuable info
01:05.10Eternally777Don't get me wrong, I have much respect for th eguy
01:05.20sylvanaaryes, but out of date
01:05.28Eternally777exactly
01:06.12KarlThePaganI should take a look at it, but i've been too lazy to even finish my grid plugins yet ;)
01:06.16sylvanaarthe new coefficient rules were posted somewhere
01:06.43KarlThePagannot a blue post... they're still quite speculative iirc
01:06.53KarlThePaganaside from the diminishing returns due to level
01:07.02Eternally777The blue post that states what the new equation is hinted that it's somewhat simple to find the level of a spell.
01:07.06KarlThePaganyea
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01:07.28KarlThePaganhowever the whole coefficient on channeled spells has changed
01:07.37KarlThePaganand the mind flay coefficient keeps changing in the TBC beta
01:07.41sylvanaarEternally777: yeah, because you are casting it
01:08.09KarlThePaganand the 100% cap is gone too (soulfire WII)
01:08.25sylvanaarthats nice
01:08.36sylvanaarwonder if it applies to PoH
01:08.46KarlThePaganprayer of healing?
01:08.55KarlThePaganstill aoe
01:09.01KarlThePaganbut... damn i should test that
01:09.15Eternally777And what happens when you try to group buff?  What if someone in your group is unable to receive that level buff?
01:09.30KarlThePagantargeted buffs are downranked automatically
01:09.36KarlThePaganbut group? not sure yet
01:09.44KarlThePagannot many lv 30's in outlands
01:09.55Eternally777lol
01:09.58sylvanaari remember hearing it was but im not sure
01:10.18leech2kmind flay hits so hard now
01:10.24leech2kI <3 it
01:10.28KarlThePaganif I were rewriting it... I would probably start with a test function which looks at the tool tip, your +dmg and does math to figure out your spells' actual coefficients
01:10.31leech2kwell over 400 a tick
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01:11.35KarlThePaganman I feel lost without the /files/ descriptions
01:11.49KarlThePaganoh wait... now i'm even more lost "Connection refused"
01:12.18sylvanaarheh the site is hodes
01:12.22sylvanaarhosed
01:12.42KarlThePaganheh... yay for having lots of work to do today :)
01:13.41ckknightI'm bored and have nothing to do
01:13.46ckknightfor like 45 minutes.
01:14.10ckknightwhat do I do?
01:14.29SP|Sorrenwank it, imo.
01:14.32KarlThePaganlook at brittney's cooter... and barf about scarring
01:14.36Rodanaadd comments to dewdrop
01:14.37ckknightnah, I'm in the library
01:14.49SP|Sorrenso?
01:14.51CrayEvening all, I'm getting an error which I'm not sure what I should do http://ace.pastey.net/2849 it says it cant find babble-class, but the babble-class folder is in the libs dir
01:14.52ckknightRodana, I'm not fond of comments, I prefer documentation.
01:15.24ckknight~ugt
01:15.27purlit has been said that ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
01:15.30ckknightCray, ^--
01:15.33KarlThePagannothing is as up-to-date as the code
01:15.33ckknight:-P
01:15.42ckknightCray, is it in the toc?
01:15.43Rodanafigured. was just trying to understand what dewdrop was doing yesterday...
01:15.56Rodanahow it works, and all that lovely stuff
01:16.02ckknightRodana, hrm.
01:16.08ckknightRodana, that's complicated
01:16.11ckknightit's pretty complex.
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01:16.18Rodanai noticed
01:16.21ckknighthey Tem
01:16.30ckknightRodana, the documentation on it is pretty good, though
01:16.45ckknightwhat I want to do is fully upgrade my libs to WoW 2.0
01:16.47Rodanafirst thought was, "damn... 'DewDrop.lua's wall of code crits you for 2600.'"
01:16.50ckknightbut that'll break vanilla players
01:17.02ckknightRodana, another brainfuck is Tablet-2.0
01:17.28RodanaI'll have to look at it then
01:17.41ckknightCray, also, Babble-2.0 and Babble-2.1 are no longer supported, Babble-2.2 is the current
01:18.00Thraeckknight does have documentation on how the code actually works, but it's in Esparanto (a much more efficient language then English, true to the 'Ace' staple!)
01:18.27ckknightLa birdo kaptas la insektojn.
01:18.41sylvanaaractually he has it in a metatable
01:18.43Crayckknight: appears to be in the toc. and i kinda thought that 2.0 was out dated, but i just downloaded this copy the other day
01:18.44beerkeIs there an addon that shows which events fire when you perform or fail an ability, or trigger an error or something ?
01:18.58kergothbeerke, check out the event monitor in devtools
01:19.08beerkethank you
01:19.20beerkeaddon package is devtools ?
01:19.28Rodanaoh god... Tablet killed metapad...
01:22.24RodanaThrae: is esparanto even a real language? I thought it was made up so Rimmer could make a fool of himself when he meets Kryten.
01:22.46Rodanawoo for slow typing
01:23.20ckknightLa dokumentoj estas bela.
01:24.19ThraeRodana: It's a real language, but not an official language of any country I know of. It was invented by a scholar who was inspired by the oddities of languages, especially English, English, and Russian, and wanted to make up an easier language for adaptation all over the world.
01:25.37Rodanayeah, just found the wiki article, google had to correct our spelling first, though.
01:26.02ThraeEnglish really is a sucky language. It has horrible border disputes just like the leader of the English revolution.
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01:26.29ThraeRodana: I'm guessing "Esperanto". When I spell something wrong once, I continue so for consistency.
01:27.08ThraeFrom "Esper" or "Spirit" and "Ranto" or "Something to do with language"
01:27.17Rodanaand I was going phonetically, so we're even. =P
01:29.23KarlThePaganso... who did/didn't like "The Fountain"
01:29.28ckknightEsperanto has more speakers than Lithuanian.
01:30.51Rodanathat I don't doubt
01:32.19ckknightEsperanto has its flaws as a language
01:32.22ckknightas all do
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01:33.50Rodanai don't think it's possible to make a language without flaws... unless you want everyone to speak in something based off arithmatic
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01:39.08nymbiakergoth: finished the PT data :)
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01:42.15vhaarrGah, wowace down?
01:42.23nymbiayup :(
01:42.30vhaarrKaelten on it?
01:42.40Thraeping www.wowace.com is fine for me
01:42.53vhaarrThat doesn't mean apache is running.
01:43.02nymbiai think he's either afk or tired of dealing with it.. he already spent some time on the phone with the host today.
01:43.20vhaarr:(
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01:44.20ThraeWell www.wowace.com isn't down, the website is ;)
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01:47.40pb_ee1Ho, I was wondering what was happening to my favourite website o:p
01:48.02nymbiasomeone broke it.  i think the running assumption is that it's my fault.
01:48.20nymbiawhich it very well may be.
01:49.05ckknight~blame nymbia
01:49.15purlACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
01:49.59KarlThePagan~blame purl
01:50.02purlACTION blames purl (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
01:50.02KarlThePaganbecause he's slow
01:58.34ckknightwell, I have class
01:58.46ckknightcya all later.
02:02.57PProvostI just checked with clad and he said the cron jobs hadn't been running so it needed to be patched and updated. That is happening now.
02:03.52PProvostHe's also putting a fixed description file up for the files section. :)
02:04.10PProvostWAU should be back up and running again.
02:04.13SP|SorrenPProvost: you still need those descriptions?
02:04.17PProvostShortly. When the web site comes up.
02:04.20PProvostNo I got it
02:04.23PProvostThanks SP|Sorren
02:04.23SP|Sorrenaiight, cool
02:05.02PProvostI did what you did... grabbed a CSV of the web page. Then just converted it to the file WAU uses.
02:05.16PProvost(WAU doesn't read the web page, there is another file it uses.)
02:05.24PProvost(Legacy is a bitch)
02:05.27SP|Sorrenah
02:05.57PProvostOnce the site comes back up, all should be well.
02:08.12sylvanaari didnt know this but there is apparently a way to remove the default tooltip that pops up when you dont have one defined for FuBar, eg Prat's tooltip which says 'Prat'
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02:19.13sylvanaarPProvost: can you stop WAU from listing addons which aren't on the trunk?
02:19.32PProvostsylvanaar, that is temporary until the new description file goes up
02:20.27PProvostThe whole site is down now anyway
02:20.33PProvostmany many patches to apply
02:20.53sylvanaarPProvost: oh really? ok. i was having issues with it listing files which have a branch node but no trunk node
02:21.13sylvanaarPProvost: it will remedy that?
02:21.13PProvostYeah, that was in th last few hours?
02:21.25sylvanaarPProvost: no, its been ongoing
02:21.38sylvanaarPProvost: its a bug
02:21.44PProvostUltimately, what shows is what is in the server file.
02:21.50PProvostWhich I don't control
02:22.02sylvanaarPProvost: it causes an error
02:22.04PProvostWAU is just a front end to the files system.
02:22.15PProvostYes. It probably does.
02:22.20PProvostI think this update will fix it
02:22.23PProvostWe'll see
02:22.24sylvanaarPProvost: ok
02:52.58beerkeAnyone noticed that with dreamlayout circled and pet bar, you can't see which ability of the pet is active or inactive ?
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02:55.42cladhairewell we have a problem
02:55.49nymbia?
02:55.51cladhaireand i dont know what/how/why/if/when i'll have time to fix it.
02:56.00cladhairethe svn mirrors.. are one full revision ahead of dev.wowace.com
02:56.01cladhaireO.o
02:56.05PProvostlol
02:56.16JoshBorkeo.O
02:56.18PProvostHow does that happen?
02:56.22nymbiathe host is breaking shit all over the place >.<
02:56.47cladhairei suspect it happened because the server sync'd witht he others
02:56.51cladhairebut then died corrupting something.
02:56.54cladhaireso i need to validate
02:56.55cladhairehold please.
02:57.59cladhairethis couldn't have happened on some OTHER night?
02:58.00cladhaire*sigh*
02:58.08JoshBorkepurl, hug cladhaire
02:58.14purlACTION hugs cladhaire tightly until cladhaire turns slightly blue
02:58.22cladhaireJoshBorke: Did you get the latest rev on yoru mirror?
02:58.29JoshBorkelet me check
02:58.32cladhairenope
02:58.34cladhaireyou're way out of date =)
02:58.40cladhaireby 10
02:58.44PProvostFun!
02:58.44cladhairewho owns 7 or 2?
02:58.45cladhaireanyone?
02:58.47JoshBorkelol
02:59.21cladhairejosh, can you try to run a sync on yours.
02:59.24JoshBorkenp
02:59.35cladhairetell me what errors you get
02:59.46JoshBorkeupdated to rev 18411
02:59.53JoshBorkeno errors
02:59.53cladhaireok
03:00.02cladhairei have no idea whats going to happen on a new commit.
03:00.04cladhaireshitballs.
03:00.06cladhairei'll try that in a second
03:00.07cladhaire<PROTECTED>
03:00.14cladhairecause he's shitty to begin with =)
03:00.37cladhairewhere is Icetrain
03:00.38cladhairehe's 2
03:00.45JoshBorkelol, how did they get ahead by one?
03:01.03cladhairelike i said, they probably sync'd the revisions, then we lost them somehow
03:01.26cladhairehrm
03:01.30cladhairethis could be interesting to say the least
03:01.39JoshBorkeindeed!
03:01.39cladhairei have no idea what its going to do when someone commits something.
03:02.12nymbiakael said that the web host was running a disk scan for some reason earlier.. so corruption during the sync is a likely culprit.
03:02.17cladhairethat commit was sync'd at the same time the server died.
03:02.27cladhaireno, the hard drive had bad sectors, it hard crashed the machine.
03:02.30cladhairethey didn'[t cause it
03:02.34cladhairethat was the resolution =)
03:02.56nymbiaah. fun
03:03.00cladhaire18412 was NOT a trunk commit
03:03.05cladhaireor if it was, the zip script didn't get called.
03:03.21JoshBorkedid the mail go out?
03:03.47cladhaireno
03:04.16cladhairewish svnlook worked remotely =)
03:05.21cladhaireNERIAK!!!!!!
03:05.26cladhaireAutomaton:
03:05.26cladhaire- fixed german localization in gossip and trade mod (true is only allowed in base locale"enUS")
03:05.32nymbiawell, CIA-17 echo'd 18411 but not 18412
03:05.41cladhaireaye, the emails/zip/cia get done after the sync
03:05.44cladhairewhich apparently happened
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03:05.54cladhaireand between the sync, and those, it crashed.
03:06.04cladhaireokay
03:06.08cladhairewell i've copied the svn
03:06.09cladhaireand we have two copies.
03:06.10cladhaireso.
03:06.14cladhairecross your fingers imo
03:06.23JoshBorkeyou can do it cladhaire!
03:07.51CIA-1703cladhaire * r18412 10/branches/zomgpleasedontdie/: Test commit
03:08.17cladhairehrm
03:08.22cladhairethe mirrors didn't yell
03:08.24cladhaireanyone have a real commit?
03:08.27cladhaireand we'll see what happens?
03:08.51nymbiayeah
03:08.51JoshBorkeum
03:08.59JoshBorkesvn2 and svn6 didn't update
03:09.12cladhaire2 was already at 18412
03:09.18cladhaire6 never uipdates automatically
03:09.19cladhairei told you this =)
03:09.24nymbiashould i fire this one?
03:09.24JoshBorkebut the last change was by neriak...
03:09.30JoshBorkeyea, that's true, i'm hard-headed :-D
03:09.37cladhairenymbia: yeas please
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03:10.25cladhaireat worst we'll need them to rebuild the mirrors.
03:10.39JoshBorkesorry my mirror sucks so bad :-(
03:10.47cladhairelol sokay
03:10.49cladhairesorry the system sucks
03:10.51cladhairetwas a bad idea =)
03:10.57cynyrohh guess you all already know.. nm then
03:10.58nymbiait wont let my user commit
03:11.03cladhairespecify --username
03:11.10cladhaireif you haven't already
03:11.23cladhairewait
03:11.24nymbiausing tortise, it prompted and everything
03:11.25cladhaireyou dont have a password.
03:11.25cladhairehrm
03:11.26cladhaireodd.
03:11.30cladhairethat could be.. bad
03:11.35JoshBorkeshall i try?
03:11.41cladhaireoh my lord.
03:11.48nymbiadont even say it..
03:11.55JoshBorkeuh oh
03:12.04cladhairepart of the corruiption involved the password file being replaced with the access file.
03:12.12cladhairethe most recent backup I have is oct 1.
03:12.14JoshBorkeoh dear
03:12.15cladhairethat could be bad.
03:12.33nymbiaouch :(
03:12.43cladhaireand no way to automate it because users and emails are mutually exclusive.
03:13.22cladhairethisterhall,sykokaj,brandx,miyu,ruinna,axium,parapara,mjc,
03:13.23cladhairetkieffer,darkbliss,leech,toadkiller,googles,tsigo,miyu,totalpackage,lacindas,machine,worf,lordrhys,hellbot,neolit
03:13.23cladhaireh,theondry,sylvanaar,radon,tigerheart,cncfanatics,kagaro,amethyst,pastamancer,bordeaux,dagar,miles,thrillseeker,d
03:13.23cladhaireahn,mcc,snago,pettigrow,xinsonic,droop,tekkub,tekkub,q09q09,jrtp,wirerydr,damjau,tekbot,arrowmaster,nymbia,testde
03:13.24cladhairev,quantuvis,yhwh,usz,freedon,pb_ee1,drathos,jjsheets,sayclub,klarn,weab,kodewulf,sylfi,throndorin,akx,tempus,wild
03:13.27cladhairefox,tristan,lostcup,cwdg,malreth,mpstark,bleahy,jerry,meleath,nargiddley,kaybe,lathek,alastair,chrisp,beerke,nire
03:13.30cladhairek,selecedecree.selece@gmail.com,hmj1026,antiarc,wenge,nickenyfiken,borohir,daklu,funkydude,gandharva,steve,karlth
03:13.33cladhaireepagan,cladtest,gardan,eraslin,eggi,lafiell,ygraine,sorren,Skycatcher,Darravis,jayhawk,Lateria,scorpion
03:13.45cladhairethose users are screwed at the moment.
03:13.53nymbiaaww :(
03:14.05JoshBorkei'm good!
03:14.09JoshBorkeshould i try to commit?
03:14.40cladhaireyes please.
03:15.27JoshBorkewait pleas...
03:15.33CIA-1703joshborke * r18413 10HealWatch/HealWatch.toc: HealWatch: tag the toc
03:15.37cladhaireand i absolutely 100% do not have the time to fix that.
03:15.41cladhairehaha
03:15.43cladhaireamusing
03:15.54cladhaireits good to know the mirrors dont have any manner of referential integrity
03:15.57KarlThePaganaw no checkout
03:16.05Azurewrathmhm.. since the wiki seems to be down.. anyone know if Bartender3 does not support any pages?
03:16.05JoshBorkeok, cookies time
03:16.09cladhairethe main svn and the mirrors now have different 18412 revisions.
03:16.14KarlThePaganwell good luck clad
03:16.22cladhairethe wiki is working jiust fine
03:16.23cladhairehaha
03:16.25cladhairegood luck to you guys
03:16.26cladhairei'm fione.
03:16.27cladhaire=)
03:16.30cladhairei dont use this svn anymore.
03:16.35cladhairehttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page
03:16.49cladhairehrm
03:16.49cladhaireneat
03:16.54cladhairei refreshed and now its giving nothing
03:17.56Kalit's been down for a couple of hours at least, I've been trying all evening - popped in here to find out what was going on and found you guys in the midst of some kind of svn disaster too :-/
03:21.42JoshBorkecladhaire: lol.  :-)
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03:24.12cladhairethe webserver is up
03:24.15cladhaireit'll probably be ass slow.
03:25.57TainAs opposed to ass fast?
03:26.05cladhaireindeed
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03:29.11cynyrthats actully why i jumped in herem, got a black page when i went to the wiki
03:29.51cynyralso www.wowace.com/files/index.php seems to be missing... although /files/ does give a directory listing
03:30.06cladhaireyep
03:30.11cladhaireintentionally
03:30.16cladhaireyou're lucky its working at all
03:31.16Kalsome kind of fecal matter / rotating object collision issue?
03:31.27cynyrlol
03:31.38cladhaireok
03:31.40cladhairei think its working
03:31.44cladhairewith an accelerator
03:31.49cladhairei'll put the index.php back
03:31.59TainDown with index.php!
03:32.05TainNo justice no peace!
03:33.41Azurewrathcladhaire: btw.. with the TBC Version of Clique, is it possible to somehow select on which frames the Clickcasting should work, or that some bindings only work in Combat? I made a right-click binding for grid to decurse people.. but it's active in ag_UF too, which means i cannot activate the normal right-click menu :/
03:34.09cladhairei have no idea what i'm doing with that yet.
03:34.23cladhaireif you come up with a solution, let me know =)
03:34.25cladhaireumm.
03:34.32cladhairequick
03:34.34Azurewrathhehe, will do
03:34.34cladhairevi
03:34.36cladhaireor sed
03:34.41cladhairei need to replace all occurances of space\t with just \t
03:35.05Azurewrathdon't know about *nix editors, sorry
03:35.13cynyrsed
03:35.29cladhairemy regexp didn't work
03:35.29cladhaireblegh
03:35.32pastamancer:%s/ ^i^t/^i^t/
03:35.42cynyrsed 's/ \t/\t/'
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03:36.01cladhairesed 's/ \t/\t/'
03:36.03cladhairethats what i did
03:36.06cladhairedidn't work
03:36.18cynyrsed 's/ \t/\t/g'   sry
03:36.25cynyrthe g is for global
03:36.27cladhaireyeah
03:36.30cladhairei'm an idiot
03:36.36JoshBorkewhat cynyr said
03:36.40cynyri missed it too...
03:37.01cladhairehrm
03:37.03cladhairestill didn't work
03:37.05cladhairewtfzors
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03:37.27JoshBorkeyou sure they are space\t?
03:37.37cladhairethat's what i'm trying to finger out.
03:37.49cladhairedamnit i think the file is dosified to make it even worse
03:38.05cynyrick
03:38.47pastamancerod -c
03:39.04JoshBorkewhat's this closified?
03:39.09pastamancermay be of assistance in determining the true nature of that whitespace
03:39.17cynyrcladhaire: it might be tab\t
03:39.32cladhaireno, they were spaces
03:39.36cladhairethey weren't at tab stops
03:39.41cladhairebut there were other issues with the file too
03:39.44cladhaireworking on this version
03:39.46cladhaireor quitting
03:39.48cladhaireeither one.
03:40.00TainUse notepad!
03:40.25XuerianUltraedit ftw =|
03:40.29pastamancerM-x indent-region :p
03:40.34XuerianShow punctuation wins :)
03:40.48Xuerians/punctuation/whitespace/
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03:48.05cynyrcladhaire: sed 's/\ \\t/\\t/g'
03:48.20cladhairei'm having him remake it
03:48.24cladhairei dont have time to eff with it at the moment
03:48.37cladhairei just need NAME\tDESC\n
03:48.37cladhaireheh
03:48.43cladhairewhatevs
03:48.47cladhaireif your password wont work
03:48.55cladhairedon't email me, because frankly.. its not my problem anymore.
03:49.01cladhairehopefully someone can get you guys straightened out.
03:49.06cladhairecause its unfortunate
03:49.21cynyrahh kk
03:49.29cladhairethanks for your help tho, i appreciate it.
03:49.31JoshBorkecladhaire: you get the file working?
03:49.34cladhaireno
03:49.38cladhairebut that a WAU thing
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03:49.43cladhaireso i'm waiting on pprovost.
03:49.47Zolee-kahi there
03:49.49JoshBorkeoh, ok
03:49.59PProvostMy bad... I think I screwed it up.
03:50.03cladhairenp
03:50.38PProvostCan someone tell me what the problem is? WAU opens fine for me.
03:50.46cladhairehehehe =)
03:50.53JoshBorkehm, :%s/ /\t/ works in vim to create a valid descript.ion
03:51.08JoshBorkereplaces first space with a tab and leaves the rest alone
03:51.23PProvostHold on... let me see...
03:51.47PProvostJoshBorke, are you saying there is a space before the tab?
03:51.56KalWAU opens fine but can't actually update anything afai can make out?
03:52.02PProvostOne sec...
03:52.26cladhairePProvost: It looks liek that too me.
03:52.54PProvostYa. I see it. Let me fix it and send clad a new one.
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03:52.56PProvostSorry
03:53.12cladhairehehe its np
03:53.18cladhaireyou've been more helpful than most tonight =)
03:53.51TainI was helpful tonight.   Just not here.
03:54.10cladhaireTain: my pee pee enjoyed your minstrations.. thanks.
03:57.03TainAlthough I failed in trying to get the internet connection working for two cute chicks tonight.  But I'm pretty sure their router is bad.
03:57.43cladhairethat suxors.
03:58.08TainOne of them is Greek too.
03:58.15TainAnd you know how those Greeks are!
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03:58.42cladhaireindeed!
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04:01.16TainAlso I agreed to help someone with her math homework this weekend.  I don't even know what kind of math.  What the hell.
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04:01.38nymbialol
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04:02.37TainReally... I mean sure I was good at math in highschool, but calc kicked my ass in college, and that was... well it was not recently.
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04:03.04JoshBorkegood luck cladhaire
04:03.09cladhairehah
04:03.10cladhairewith what?
04:03.20JoshBorkewith wowace if there is anything left :-)
04:03.24JoshBorkenn all
04:04.55TainHave fun storming the castle!
04:05.48PProvostMany thanks to cladhaire for helping deal with this.
04:06.00cladhaireheh
04:08.06TainHip hip hooray!
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04:08.54cladhairePTFO
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04:11.34PProvostWAU is back up and running.
04:11.43DrDreok can anyone help me figure this out
04:11.47DrDreif i got an app in focus
04:11.53DrDreand i click task bar to go to other app
04:12.02DrDreit doesnt bring it to focus, and jus flashes it in taskbar
04:12.08DrDreif i click it again it minimizes that window
04:12.24PProvostAll apps or just one?
04:12.27DrDreall
04:12.35PProvostClick it a 3rd time?
04:12.38PProvostThen what?
04:12.46DrDrebrings to focus
04:12.53PProvostOdd
04:12.58PProvostNew behavior?
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04:13.02DrDrebout to jam every key on my keyboard and see if ones jammed >_>
04:13.03KarlThePagansounds like there's a modal dialog somewhere
04:13.05DrDreDono Armorum Es
04:13.09DrDre+*Dono Armorum Es
04:13.13DrDreiohhhh shit
04:13.16DrDrei see what it is i think
04:13.21PProvostYeah, could be something open. Alt-tab through them all.
04:13.27DrDrei think its the G15 function key app
04:13.34DrDreits on the dungeon seige 2 profile O.o
04:13.38PProvostWhosey whatsit?
04:13.40PProvost:D
04:13.42DrDrethose was cheat codes lol
04:13.44DrDrefor DS2
04:13.46PProvostnice
04:13.50KarlThePaganhax
04:13.53DrDrei dont have game open... it shouldnt be on that profile
04:14.09DrDrehmm changed profile still doing it
04:14.12DrDreDono Armorum Es
04:14.22DrDreok i guess i got that bound to windows not DS2
04:14.25nymbiaso, are commits working right now for people who didnt have their access nuked in that crash?
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04:19.31DrDrewell rebooting fixed it
04:19.55DrDreprolly was a modal dialog as you said, i jus didnt even take time to alt tab and look lol
04:20.05DrDreprolly had some services window still open or msconfig
04:20.09DrDrewas taking shit off startup
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04:21.36Splinter271I have an editbox with an "OnEnterPressed" script, is there a way I can call that function or simulate an enter press?  I tried doing EditBox:OnEnterPressed() and EditBox:DoEnterPress() but neither was right
04:22.05DrDrehow do i get rid of the safe to remove hardware box ;x ? i just installed a SATA hdd and now its showing ><
04:22.15DrDreicon*
04:23.58XuerianOpen the sata drive's properties
04:24.09Xuerianuncheck the quick remove preparation thingy
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04:27.20TullerSplinter271: try f = frame:GetScript('OnEnterPressed'); f()
04:28.04Tullerbetter yet, put the stuff you have inside the <OnEnterPressed> tags inside a single function, and call that :)
04:28.30Splinter271ah, that makes sense, thanks ^_^
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04:57.57ckknighthey all
04:58.03nymbiahey
04:58.20XuerianHeyo.
04:59.44KalamadiYay for repeated guild wipes on Skeram due to /panic /panic /panic.
04:59.48xDrDreerm
04:59.49xDrDrewtf
04:59.59xDrDreadding hdd couldnt of increased my system temp this much
05:00.05nymbiaso.. who has access to the svn password file other than cladhaire? =\
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05:00.41KalamadiI mean, how hard is Skeram to get down? He teleports and replicated. If you have mages sheeping and three tanks, there shouldn't be a problem, right?
05:00.49Kalamadi*replicates
05:02.49Splinter271We always used 6, just in case of a double port
05:03.10Splinter271and you're in trouble if you get a tank sheeped on accident
05:03.30Nargiddleyburning down the wrong one at a split will also kill you pretty fast
05:03.33Splinter271er, MC'ed on accident (and then hopefully sheeped (shept))?
05:04.20KalamadiHe doesn't hit that hard, though
05:04.49nymbiaearthshock does
05:05.04KalamadiOnly 2k. His regular melee hits are jellybeans.
05:05.05nymbiaand if multiples teleport to a tank, you cant stop em from earthshocking
05:06.09KalamadiDo the splits unspawn eventually?
05:06.34Gngsknot until you kill 'em
05:06.36Nargiddleyno, if you just kill the main one you'll have 7 out for the last 25%
05:06.39Gngskor you kill skeram
05:07.11KalamadiDo the splits have less HP?
05:07.20Nargiddleyyes
05:07.26KalamadiHow much less?
05:07.59Nargiddleyi think its about 25% of his hp
05:08.27Nargiddleyall the same name so mobhealth is always way out for the fight :/
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05:08.57Tricksta_Any AceHeadz around atm?
05:09.16ckknightanybody else think it's innappropriate to have MazzleUI yell "I just had a Mazzlegasm!" after upgrading your UI?
05:09.21ckknightTricksta_, yep.
05:09.27Tricksta_CK!
05:09.32Tricksta_My favorite author
05:09.33ckknightTricksta_!
05:09.39ckknightmy unknown user.
05:09.43nymbialol
05:10.06nymbiackknight: people're gonna get reported for that crap
05:10.14ckknightI know, nymbia
05:10.23Tricksta_I really hate to sound like a leech popping in here, but is there any ACE mods out there that work like the Laggy "Smart restore" which checks hp and mana and uses best potion in inv?
05:10.26nymbiahe
05:10.34Tricksta_or eats best food
05:10.37ckknightAce is not an acronym.
05:10.40Tricksta_or uses best drink
05:10.58KalamadiHaha. Our best try on Skeram was 54%
05:11.00nymbia's like ITS A ONE TIME THING but it happens whenever you update any mod in the package or get any new spells...
05:11.09ckknightnot to my knowledge, and don't count on one being written. WoW 2.0 prevents stuff like that, Tricksta_
05:11.18Tricksta_Ahhh
05:11.18nymbiaKalamadi: couldn't survive one split? that's kinda pathetic :(
05:11.30Tricksta_back to macros it seems ..heheh
05:11.30ckknightso you're a bit SOL
05:11.34KalamadiYep.
05:11.36Tricksta_yer
05:11.52KalamadiI mean, they did Vael to Nef in two weeks
05:11.55Tricksta_Well at least my frame rates are 50% better using ace now
05:12.04KalamadiBut can't grasp "LOL SHEEP THE MIND CONTROLLED"
05:12.05Tricksta_Thanks for the awesome mods
05:13.03Splinter271I made a macro for our mages to sheep any MC'ed people
05:13.24Splinter271though it's breaking tuesday, so probably besides the point now
05:13.28ckknightTricksta_, you're welcome.
05:13.42ckknightTricksta_, if you haven't already, try out Cartographer
05:13.47Tricksta_Dang it sounds like alot of good stuff is being broken
05:14.00Tricksta_I will try carto
05:14.05Tricksta_thanks for the advice
05:14.05KalamadiThough I don't understand why the DPS warriors keep getting one-shotted
05:14.08ckknightit's a map addon ;-)
05:14.16Tricksta_nice one
05:14.41nymbiaKalamadi: earthshocks all at once.  2000 aint a lot, but 6000 is.
05:15.45KalamadiHow are they getting aggro from all three, though?
05:15.57KalamadiIt happened three times in a row to three different warriors >_>
05:16.45nymbiait's not aggro
05:17.02nymbiait's semi random
05:17.06Splinter271I've heard that he earthshocks if you have aggro but aren't in melee range (like Rag, kinda)
05:17.16nymbiayeah, pretty much
05:17.54KalamadiSo that's why Hunters kept getting pwn't?
05:18.04nymbiaif warriors are at their max melee range, he'll earthshock even if they've got a good snag on him.  they gotta stand close.
05:18.26nymbiacourse, if you get 2x on a side with only one warrior, one of them will always be earthshocking.
05:18.26KalamadiWhat's the key for preventing the insta-kill shockathons?
05:18.54Nargiddleynever have one without a tank on it
05:19.02nymbiabasically warriors knowing what to do
05:19.07nymbia2 on each point
05:19.29KalamadiAre paladins capable of tanking them? Our next attempt is Wednesday.
05:20.07Kalamadi(Though everyone's going to be running about like chickens sans heads.)
05:20.28nymbiaprobably not too well.  better to use rogues as the 'ohshit' tanks, they'll be able to hold aggro, and it's not like he melees for much
05:20.55Tricksta_hmmm looking all over Wow Interface and not finding cartographer
05:21.05Tricksta_is it a beta mod made for 2.0?
05:21.09nymbiaits sneakily hidden
05:21.33Tricksta_lol
05:21.33nymbiahttp://wowace.com/files/index.php?path=Cartographer/
05:21.42Tricksta_gracious
05:23.09Kaeltenok guys did you all get the notice about what happened to the svn user/paswords?
05:23.10Tricksta_found it, nice one hehe
05:23.35ckknightKaelten, no.
05:23.42ckknightTricksta_, it's not released on WoWI until Monday
05:23.52nymbiayeah kael.  who can fix it? :(
05:24.08ckknightKaelten, what happened?
05:24.10nymbiackknight: all passwords set after oct 1 are gone and forgotten
05:24.17ckknighthrm
05:24.20ckknightno fun
05:24.24Kaeltenbasically I have to reenter everyone who signed up after that by hand
05:24.32nymbia=\
05:24.58ckknighticky.
05:25.08ckknightbut at least it's not the worst that could happen.
05:25.21Kaeltenno we had a few other random things get damaged, but not that bad
05:25.33ckknightKaelten, how come?
05:25.48Kaeltenserver had a disk error of some sort
05:25.52ckknightah.
05:26.19Kaeltenso some sectors got corrupted and the data on those aren't very good:)
05:26.26Kaeltenlike descript.ion got wiped
05:26.37nymbiakael: did you talk to clad about it at all?
05:26.45DrDreok fuck Xfire
05:26.55DrDreit jus closed wow out of nowhere jus to update itself
05:27.08Tricksta_aye
05:27.09Kaeltennymbia: he sent me an email telling me about the svn pass's
05:27.16XuerianDrDre: Dual monitors > Xfire
05:27.28KaeltenI had talked to him earlier though
05:27.29DrDrelol i got it to keep track of gaming time
05:27.58DrDrei dont have any friends on it :p
05:28.07Xuerian:P
05:28.45DrDrewas gonna use that lil sig thing but guess not
05:28.52nymbiayeah.  but it looks like the corruption hit right during 18412 -- so that commit got to some mirrors and not others.  they're all on the same build number again now, but.. seems sketchy =\
05:28.55DrDreshould be some damn warning for that
05:33.39ckknightwhat's 18412?
05:33.46DrDrewhy does my game cap at 30 fps in big areas ':( its jus always 30 unless closed in area, 7900GS 4600+ Dual core proc :/
05:33.55nymbiaKaelten: he posted a list of affected users, if that'll help you
05:34.09Tricksta_andremar:
05:34.14Tricksta_ooops
05:34.16Tricksta_andremar:
05:34.20Tricksta_Wtf
05:34.23Tricksta_Umm Dre
05:34.24ckknight?
05:34.28nymbiackknight: it was just some random commit by neriak i believe.  nothing special, just the start of the problems ;)
05:34.43Tricksta_FPS issues on 7000 series can be fixed with some tweaks
05:34.52DrDrehow/where guide?
05:35.01Tricksta_sec for link
05:35.05Tricksta_worked for me like a charm
05:35.34DrDrei see my friend with a laptop thats not even THAT up to date getting 80 fps.. so yeah i know somethings fucked when im running a 7900 ><
05:36.04Tricksta_http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=18970
05:36.30Tricksta_This is about SLI but applies also to single mode
05:36.45Tricksta_I tried in SLI and Non Dual SLI modes
05:38.07Tricksta_Sorry I mean in SLI mode and Non SLI ...I run 7800 GT cards
05:39.49Tricksta_CK - Ummm I know now that Cart is not due out till the patch, and you prob have no release notes on it. However can you import mapnotes with it yet, and does it work with Alpha Map, or am I missing the point of what this addon does?
05:40.37DrDreits a replacement of metamap and maybe alphamap if its the same thing as meta
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05:40.50Tricksta_Oh
05:41.19Tricksta_So can you import mapnotes data into it yet, or do you have to start notes from scratch?
05:41.44Tricksta_Anyhow DRE try those settings, they helped me alot
05:42.02ckknightTricksta_, currently, no importing.
05:42.10Tricksta_Thats cool
05:42.27Tricksta_I will just remove mapnotes and alphamap and give it a run
05:42.40Tricksta_I cannto stand Meta
05:42.44Tricksta_cannot even
05:42.51Kaeltennymbia: got a link?
05:43.18nymbiaKaelten: it was in chat, one sec
05:43.44DrDreerm ckk anyway to bringup the menu for carto? i made it transparent moved to right side to adjust av map where i wanted and locked it, and now the buttons off screen ><
05:44.16Tricksta_afk gonna go play with Cart now
05:44.22nymbiaKaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/2851
05:44.56ckknightDrDre, shift-mousewheel.
05:45.13DrDrelol i closed game so sv's wouldnt be saved>_>
05:45.35ckknightshift-mousewheel would've changed the transparency ;-)
05:45.48DrDrewell
05:45.56DrDreit was more of a problem with the button being off screen ;x
05:46.00DrDrethe carto button
05:46.13DrDreand since it was locked i couldnt move it
05:46.53ckknightoh.
05:47.04ckknighthow'd you move it up there, then?
05:47.31DrDrei dragged in middle of maps titlebar :P
05:47.42ckknightbut it was locked...
05:47.45DrDreand menu was still open while i dragged
05:47.51ckknightoh.
05:47.54DrDrei locked after i moved and i didnt even think about button off screen
05:48.09ckknightI should move the buttons to the middle, I think...
05:48.57kergothsounds like a 'reset' cmdline opt is in order, at least for position
05:49.53ckknightbut I don't want the user to have to deal with the commandline :-P
05:51.06Kaeltenwell, I'm probably just going to ask those people to resubmit for passes
05:51.11KemayoAw, no more !!!Libs. ;_;
05:51.22ckknightKemayo, turn that frown upside down.
05:51.37Kemayo!_!
05:51.45ckknighthehe.
05:54.09DrDrejus add a /carto with some options :P
05:54.28DrDrebrb gotta find out why my case temp is so fucking hot
05:56.06kergothckknight, alternatively, let alt+rightclick (or similar) anywhere on the cart  frame pop up its options menu
05:56.46ckknightkergoth, I can't when it's locked
05:57.02ckknightunless of course, I make alt unlock the map temporarily.
05:57.13ckknightwhich is doable.
05:57.15kergothah right
05:57.25Tricksta_I can already tell you this is gonna blow away Meta
05:57.32Tricksta_and replace the mapnote+alpha thing
05:57.46Tricksta_Only issue I can see so far is the Map Icons are 2 big
05:57.47ckknightTricksta_, yep.
05:57.53ckknightmeh
05:57.56Tricksta_lol
05:57.56ckknightI have bad eyesight.
05:58.00Tricksta_hahaha
05:58.01ckknightdeal.
05:58.23Tricksta_Well the ctrl,shift etc mousewheel tricks are nice
05:58.24ckknightalternatively, I could add in an option to scale the note size.
05:58.54Tricksta_take it as constructive feedback nothing personal meant
05:59.22Tricksta_I just put notes all over my maps and I can see issues on my part, but then again I am a tweaker
05:59.27Tricksta_most users wont care
05:59.56ckknightTricksta_, no, you do realize I'm going to make a note scale option now.
06:00.02ckknight:-P
06:01.35ckknighthehe: "yes.. us Canadians.. always quiet.. clean.. keep to ourselves.. never bother anyone... sounds like how they always describe serial killers eh?"
06:02.00Tricksta_rofl
06:02.09Tricksta_Sorry I was playing with your mod
06:02.18Tricksta_very slick interface
06:02.25Tricksta_easy to pickup and run with
06:02.43Tricksta_unlike the ever complex Meta
06:02.47ckknightI like feature requests.
06:02.48Kaeltennothin wrong with canadians
06:02.59Kaeltensome of the best people I know are from there :)
06:03.04ckknightKaelten, like me ;-)
06:03.12Tricksta_rofl
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06:04.06nymbia~blame Tekkub
06:04.15purlACTION blames Tekkub (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
06:04.23kergothhehe
06:04.32nymbiaoh kergoth
06:04.41nymbiai got that pt2.0 data finished
06:04.46kergothnice
06:05.01nymbiahehe
06:05.09kergothdownloaded and read 4 ebooks. was bored, didnt feel like going to the bookstore
06:05.10kergoth:P
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06:06.28DrDrebah this ide slot fan making alot of noise
06:06.38DrDrebut i dunno if removing that is what made temp go up :(
06:07.22sylvanaarwait, what, im screwed
06:07.53DrDrethe revisions on svn isnt fucked tho is it?
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06:08.09DrDreor is it fully fixed cuz i see descriptions :o
06:09.13nymbiaDrDre: it's been mostly patched up by now.
06:09.17DrDrek
06:09.27DrDrecuz those red tooltips in fubar was annoying me
06:10.44DrDrecase temp 44c.. much better
06:10.50DrDrewas hitting 57 a min ago ><
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06:12.09CIA-1703kemayo * r18414 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/Quixote/: !!!StandaloneLibraries - Add Quixote.
06:13.34DrDrehmm i made those changes to gfx
06:13.41DrDrestill averaging 30 fps at times
06:13.48DrDrestanding still in uc i got 55
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06:14.03DrDreand ckknight: wtf is up with the red tooltips on fubar :( ?
06:14.22DrDreno other tooltip has red bg so i dunno if another addons doing it ;x
06:14.27DrDreonly fubar's
06:14.49ckknightum, don't know about that
06:14.56ckknightDrDre, you can change the tooltip color.
06:15.20DrDrenot seeing that, and i havnt changed it lol
06:17.23DrDreok its not skinner
06:18.06KemayoHmm... this WoWAceUpdater thing would be way more useful if it sorted things alphabetically within groups...
06:18.25Xuerianuncheck/recheck groups
06:18.36DrDreyea
06:18.41KemayoOoo, intuitive. :P
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06:19.20DrDreckk have you looked at tooltips ;x ? its not tinytip or skinner
06:19.26DrDrewhere can you change tooltip color
06:19.45ckknightokay, the option isn't there
06:19.50ckknightI don't know, DrDre
06:19.57ckknightyou shouldn't be able to.
06:20.05DrDrejus started doing it like 2 days ago
06:20.19DrDreive disabled tinytip and skinner and i have no other tooltip/skinning mods ;x
06:20.54ckknightpastey your FuBar SVs.
06:20.56Tricksta_Kemayo: agree
06:21.13CIA-1703ckknight * r18415 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - added options "Show note creator" and "Icon size"
06:21.19ckknightTricksta_, test.
06:21.38Tricksta_hehe
06:21.44Tricksta_serious?
06:21.48Tricksta_lol
06:22.01DrDrehttp://fanetworks.net/drdre/fubartooltip.png
06:22.03DrDresec on pastey
06:22.25sylvanaarKemayo: it is supposedly being worked on
06:22.41ckknightTricksta_, you requested the feature, your responsibility to test it out
06:22.46Tricksta_ok
06:22.50Tricksta_Rofl
06:22.57Tricksta_I can update right now?
06:23.03Tricksta_You did it that fast?
06:23.12DrDreckknight: is speed demon
06:23.16Tricksta_dayam
06:23.23Tricksta_ok
06:23.39ckknightit's all about harnessing the killing chi of our ancestors
06:24.04DrDre["tooltip"] = { ["r"] = 0.9, ["g"] = 0.15, ["transparency"] = 1, ["fontSizePercent"] = 0.8300000429153442, },
06:24.09DrDreim sure thats what u was looking for
06:24.15DrDreno b? but how is that even set lol
06:24.56ckknightDrDre, the r,g,b is 0 by default.
06:25.05ckknightI'll make it so that tooltip is reset to 0/0/0 on load
06:25.07DrDrehowd mine get changed ;x
06:25.29ckknightmy guess is gnomes.
06:25.36DrDreyeah i blame them to
06:26.16DrDreyou think adding anotherh dd to system would raise case temp by 5c~?
06:26.19Tricksta_Cartographer - Updating to rev 18415
06:26.19Tricksta_Downloading...
06:26.39DrDreit takes a while the downloads kinda slow :P
06:26.53Tricksta_aye its cool
06:27.14Tricksta_Extracting ZIP file... done.
06:27.14Tricksta_Deleting ZIP file... done.
06:27.14Tricksta_Update complete!
06:27.23Tricksta_Here we go ..weeee
06:27.54DrDreis henge almost done ;x ? or does rogue jus not get to add any buttons >_>?
06:27.59CIA-1703ckknight * r18416 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - resets tooltip color to black on load.
06:31.08DrDrethx ckk that worked :P
06:31.16DrDrewish i knew wtf did it
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06:46.28Tricksta_Ok
06:46.31Tricksta_Ckk
06:46.34Tricksta_I cant break it
06:46.45Tricksta_HIGHFIVE
06:47.14Tricksta_I love this. I can place mini notes all over the map
06:47.59Tricksta_I hate to push the subject but how hard would it be to be able and scale each map note icon individually?
06:48.48Tricksta_heh
06:50.48XuerianI see how it is! BAH!
06:51.15Tricksta_9HURT MY EYES
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06:51.35nymbiaow
06:51.46Tricksta_sorry messin around
06:52.01Tricksta_Ckk must have bailed out
06:52.33Tricksta_This Carto is gonna own out any map proggie I have used so far
06:53.04Tricksta_I have that and alot of addons loaded and am gettin 19.1 MIBs
06:53.32Tricksta_That from like 30-40 before I got Acefied
06:58.22Tricksta_Heh, need to get the Ace coding team to go fix that memory leaking hog of a game called "Gothic 3" now
06:58.43Tricksta_talk about a waste of $$$
07:03.57ckknightback
07:04.01ckknightgot sunglasses
07:04.07ckknightTricksta_, don't use colors.
07:04.15nymbiasunglasses?
07:04.20Tricksta_heh
07:04.21ckknightnymbia, mine broke
07:04.24Tricksta_I will not
07:04.26nymbiaaha
07:04.26ckknightand I'm photosensitive
07:04.33ckknighti.e. the sun burnses us
07:04.40Tricksta_NP CK
07:04.49Tricksta_Thanks again for adding that feature
07:04.58ckknightit's all good
07:05.00Tricksta_I am already punching in notes
07:05.03ckknightI like to satisfy my users.
07:05.15Tricksta_ehehehe
07:05.41Tricksta_I hate to push the subject but how hard would it be to be able and scale each map note icon individually, one day ...one year...ever or is that asking 2 much?
07:05.56ckknighthrm.
07:06.02ckknightI could...
07:06.10Tricksta_nothing major, I am happy
07:07.00ckknightI think I'm gonna  revamp the :SetNote notation
07:07.14ckknightbasically rename :SetCustomNote to :SetNote
07:07.30ckknightit allows for dynamic adding of features.
07:09.25Tricksta_well like I said, I am a tweaker
07:09.34ckknightwhich is quite fine by me.
07:09.41ckknightI want to "release" on Monday
07:09.46ckknightand have it be rock solid by then
07:10.05Tricksta_You already put in most if not all the features that the other map programs have, yet it runs smooth
07:10.17Tricksta_the scaling is very smooth
07:10.29Tricksta_compared to Meta
07:10.35Tricksta_I tossed that ages ago
07:10.47ckknightMetaMap is a good addon feature-wise
07:10.52ckknightit's just not efficient enough for my tastes.
07:11.05Tricksta_Yeah, for some reason it lagged the heck out of my machine
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07:12.02ckknightwell, a big thing that Carto does compared to AlphaMap/MetaMap/other stuff is that it reuses Blizzard's frames and such
07:12.05ckknightdoesn't make new ones
07:12.06Tricksta_I mean not hating on the writer but mapnotes+alphamap was fine for me
07:12.27ckknightAlphaMap was horribly bloated that it did that
07:12.30Tricksta_ahhh
07:12.37ckknightand it rewrote a bunch of stuff that was just unnecessary because of that
07:12.55ckknightmerely showing the player icon in AlphaMap is much, much more expensive than how WoW does it.
07:13.36Tricksta_Hmmm I was lookin at the blps
07:14.07Tricksta_sec
07:14.42Tricksta_I see you have a module that provides maps of BG's
07:14.57Tricksta_but I dont see a BLP for Alterac, etc
07:15.10Tricksta_am I missing something?
07:16.38Tricksta_guess I need to try it out in BG ....that really was the only reason I kept AM running was for the realtime player movement feature so I knew where my faction was attacking and could go and assist
07:16.50Tricksta_the overlay I mean
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07:18.52ToadkillerAnybody know why svn name & password would suddenly stop working?
07:19.34ckknightToadkiller, yes. I know.
07:19.36nymbiaToadkiller: any svn password created after oct 1 is gone
07:19.45ckknightthere was a harddrive error on the server.
07:19.48ckknight:-(
07:19.49Toadkillerdoh
07:20.14ckknightKaelten should be able to hook you up with a new username/pass,though
07:20.27Toadkillerok thanks.
07:21.41Toadkillerb4 i go I just want to bitch about the new key bindings or lack thereof....  bitch & whine ... tx for listening.
07:22.08ckknight*thumbs up*
07:22.47ToadkillerGello's hack is ok but it seems to drop all the bindings from time to time.  ugh.
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07:27.27ckknighthey krka
07:27.30ckknightand Cartas
07:28.36CartasHi old chap!
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08:02.27krkahey
08:02.32MoonWolfho
08:03.40Nickenyfikenhoho
08:03.55Nickenyfikensanta
08:03.56Nickenyfikenme
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08:04.56MoonWolf~slap Nickenyfiken
08:05.06purlACTION slaps Nickenyfiken, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
08:05.06ckknightanyone run into "Unable to send chat to %s because your message contained reserved words."? What are the reserved words?
08:05.44nymbiackknight: as far as i can think of, just stuff like "target", "party1"
08:05.59nymbiabut that doesnt really make sense to block
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08:41.00Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3176.msg62268#msg62268 <- i have been smited after this message ;)
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08:45.32NickenyfikenMikma: haha
08:45.53MoonWolfWelcome to our XHTML <bar />! Sorry, we're closed.
08:45.56Nickenyfikenyou should move to Russia and drink alot of vodka
08:46.51odtif anyone's interested i've written a guide on how to tunnel WoW over SSH
08:46.54odthttp://odt.planet.ee/wow/wow-tunnel.txt
08:46.57NickenyfikenMikma: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_TrainerFu
08:47.20odtworks without any apps that hook to WoW or other such stuff
08:49.50Nickenyfikenodt: oh nice!
08:50.00Nickenyfikenlucky i dont have such problems
08:51.51odtwell, it's even nice if you aren't in such a situation, but have access to a lot of SSH servers and want to see which one is best to play WoW over :)
08:53.30Noekoe|gm
08:53.47Noekoeanyone can help me with Caterer?
08:54.13Nickenyfikenodt: hehe :-)
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08:56.30Lateriahi, is there the good place for a wowace svn problem ?
08:56.42ckknightthere is a good place.
08:56.52Nickenyfikeni cant auth :-P
08:57.11ckknighttalk to Kaelten
08:57.36Lateriaok
08:57.42KalamadiDamn. Holy Guidance + Seal of Righteousness is still bugged on the PTR
09:01.48NickenyfikenKaelten: you there?
09:02.09LateriaI can't auth either... but don't think kaelten is here
09:02.37Nickenyfikenok ill just wait. nothing important to commit anyway
09:03.57Frittiodt: niec guide, but you never state where you should connect to your SSH server?
09:04.16odtthere is no specific "where"
09:04.26odtyou either have access to a ssh server or not
09:04.39odti think i stated that in the requirements :)
09:04.55Frittiyes, but I think you need to configure the tunnels for a specific putty connection, no?
09:05.07odtoh, i get it
09:05.13odtthanks
09:05.21Frittinp
09:05.25Frittias I said, nice guide :)
09:05.47odtwell, it's all pretty easy if you have done tunneling before
09:06.02odtonly the loopback adapter thing might be new to some people
09:06.40Frittiyeah, I've seen tunneling but not that
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09:26.22evl"Addons that use Ace2 libraries will likely need to have embed libs removed"
09:26.32Nickenyfikeneh?
09:26.33evlthat's only for addons that contain old Ace2 lib versions+
09:26.40evlfrom http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons
09:27.52CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r18417 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (4 files): Bartender3: You can modify the number of buttons for each bar now from 1-12.
09:28.18odtnice feature!
09:28.30odttoo bad i have to wait another week at least to try it out
09:28.53odtsomeone know if it's possible to create something like a oskin/skinner bottomframe in TBC aswell?
09:29.06nevcairielwhy shouldnt it be?
09:29.21odti heard skinner isnt working
09:29.25odtor?
09:29.35nevcairielskinner places hooks all over the place
09:29.47nevcairielbut only some small bottomframe shouldnt be a problem
09:29.50odtthis is my current setup - http://odt.planet.ee/wow/raidui.png
09:30.04odtno idea how it will look after 2.0
09:30.32nevcairielprobably something like vanilla wow :D
09:31.07nevcairielnow .. i need to figure out page swapping ..
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09:34.57KalamadiHmm.
09:35.11KalamadiI'm playing with the FlexBar2 code, trying to figure out how to get some commands working
09:35.25MoonWolfSwap those pages nev, swap those pages GOOD.
09:35.30KalamadiYou can group buttonframes together, of course
09:36.06KalamadiBut grouping doesn't make the buttonframes stack neatly
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09:37.54KalamadiSo...do I have to make a function which would find all the children of a parent, then takes a vertical/horizontal parameter and moves the buttons accordingly, respecting differences in scale?
09:38.12nevcairielDont ask me. i dont know anything about flexbar
09:41.52Lateriaodt, shouldn't be hard playing with such a frame ? I mean, haven't you too many things on your screen ?
09:44.38odtLateria: well, raiding is a bitch :P
09:44.49odtmy solo ui has 30% more visible space
09:45.05Lateriaodt: Yeah but look my raid http://www.immortalis.be/upload/bc/WoWScrnShot_112706_221344.jpg
09:45.35KalamadiGrid!
09:46.29odtwell, somewhat better resolution, no swstats, ktm, xrs :)
09:47.11Lateria1280*1024, swstats is hidden at this time but placed under mt target
09:47.15odtactually, i could turn off even my party frames aswell
09:47.23odtgood about playing a hunter
09:47.28odtbut i need xrs for pulls
09:47.58KalamadiIs there any way to call a parent class and have all its children returned?
09:48.05Lateriaas a priest, I don't think our mt would like if hide raid frames ;p
09:48.20Laterias/mt/raid members/
09:48.35odtyeah, i have a priest aswell
09:48.47Lateriaand i have a hunter aswell :)
09:48.54odtsee if i can find it's ui (played it before ace)
09:49.57odthttp://odt.planet.ee/wow/gold_after.jpg
09:50.16odteven less free space :)
09:50.32nevcairielscale the buttons down ffs
09:50.48odthehe, that's a 6 months old screenshot
09:51.05[Ammo]mornig
09:51.12nevcairielmornin ammo
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09:51.36odtwe killed the emps that try if i remember, just a couple of secs after they enraged
09:51.51odtmust have been our 2nd kill or so
09:51.52nevcairielwe havent seen enrage .. ever ..
09:51.57CIA-1703kodewulf * r18418 10School-2.0/ (. Libs/ School-2.0/ School-2.0/School-2.0.lua School-2.0.toc):
09:51.57CIA-17School-2.0
09:51.57CIA-17! Library providing information about trainers and learnable spells/skills.
09:51.57CIA-17* Initial import
09:52.00nevcairielwe always wiped before enrage
09:52.05nevcairielor killed them
09:52.33nevcairiellast week we had like 7 minutes left when they died .. stupid dmg is insane :D
09:52.58odtwell, is the same with us now aswell
09:53.06odtbut that was a couple months before naxx
09:53.17odtlots of undergeared ppl
09:53.27odti think my priest is wearing zg gear in that screenshot
09:53.31nevcairielstill, killing them in half the time .. doubled dmg .. is pretty funny
09:54.11Lateriaour last twins was awfull... a rogue has goes offline at vek'nilash place and when vek'lor teleports, that rogue take aggro, vek'lor run to him, then run to a mage and heal vek'nilash... we were at 2%
09:54.43nevcairielyeah we had those .. but usually we still manage
09:55.24odtwe have a very splitted guild, some are very hardcore, some very casual. but need everyone for good raids
09:55.34odtthat's the limitations of having a national guild roster
09:55.52odtwith a nation of just 1.3 million
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09:56.02DhragaLo all
09:56.05Lateriawhich nation ?
09:56.09odtestonia
09:56.34Lateriayou play on EU realm ?
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09:56.44odtyeah, we rule aláakir
09:56.50odtwell, 3rd on horde progress wise
09:57.09DhragaGonna fling some questions about addon replacement, if any of you have some input and want to share it be most apriciated...
09:57.43Lateria2nd ally guild on my realm
09:58.01DhragaFor cooldown count on hotkeys, compatible with bartender... I should use OCD Correct ?
09:58.44DhragaFor Mana/Skill count on hotkeys, compatible with bartender... I should use L2count ?
09:59.30nevcairielif OCD is OmniCC in your world
09:59.31nevcairielthen yes
09:59.31nevcairiel:D
09:59.56nevcairiell2count should work with bt2
10:00.09Dhraga:) never tried oCD actually
10:00.21DhragaIs OmniCC an Ace addon ?
10:00.36nevcairielno, but its so damn simple, doesnt need to be ace
10:00.55Dhragaah nice, gotcha, omniCC for that then =)
10:01.08nevcairielAnd as of next week, when we get the 2.0 patch, Bartender3 will have cooldown count implemented
10:01.23odtcool
10:01.29odtas in cooldown
10:01.37DhragaNeat =)
10:02.13DhragaPossible that Bartender3 would implement a L2Count + Out of range function aswell ?
10:02.19nevcairielit has out of range
10:02.26nevcairielfull red buttons etc :)
10:02.32nevcairieli have no idea what l2count does tho :D
10:03.41DhragaIt counts your power/rage/mana and provides a small number on the hotkeys on how many more times you can use that abillity with the current mana/power/rage
10:04.08nevcairielah that.
10:04.08odtsounds nice
10:04.21DhragaYes it's pretty handy
10:04.39DhragaI'm used of it from using the old ABInfo addon
10:04.45nevcairieli dunno, ive enver liked that .. prolly not going to implement it .. would need to parse the mana costs in the tooltip .. some ugly hack :o
10:04.56Dhragaokies Nev
10:05.10nevcairielbut l2count should work, i guess
10:05.11nevcairiel:)
10:05.42DhragaRegarding the CD function, do you see it possible to add a small Flash graph on the hotkey when the CD is ready ?
10:06.07nevcairieli guess
10:06.13nevcairielat some point
10:06.19nevcairieli think OmniCC does it
10:06.27nevcairielmay need to steal more from tullers code :D
10:06.35DhragaMmmm, plz do ;D
10:07.29DhragaOkies, hotbars done... thanks! ...... For castbar replacement, I should oCB ?
10:07.39[Ammo]yeah
10:07.45[Ammo]oCB tbc branch methinks
10:07.57DhragaThank you, sorted that one also then =)
10:08.12nevcairielbut be sure to have BugSack
10:08.18nevcairieloCB throws errors now and then
10:08.24[Ammo]hehe
10:08.25nevcairielbut doesnt stop it from working :)
10:08.38[Ammo]on #wowi-lounge there's someone coding 'per page'
10:08.41[Ammo]kinda weird :)
10:09.14nevcairieli tried to keep up there, but failed somewhere in the last ten minutes when i was reading forums.
10:09.44CIA-1703kodewulf * r18419 10School-2.0/ (. credits.txt):
10:09.44CIA-17School-2.0
10:09.44CIA-17* Updated externals
10:09.44CIA-17* Added CREDITS.TXT
10:11.00DhragaMost kind guys. I'm off to lunch atm... gotta assk more later =)
10:11.09MoonWolf[Ammo], per page ?
10:11.13[Ammo]yeah
10:11.18nevcairielhe named his files pages.
10:11.20[Ammo]he meant files
10:11.23[Ammo]but he names them pages
10:11.35MoonWolfgood thing i was not paying attention then.
10:12.21nevcairielanyway, need to leave for university, laters.
10:14.29CIA-1703kodewulf * r18420 10School-2.0/:
10:14.29CIA-17School-2.0
10:14.29CIA-17* Updated externals
10:14.29CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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10:15.04Lateriaso... i can't auth on svn... very boring ;'(
10:29.04ckknighttalk to Kaelten
10:33.19Lateriakaelten is afk
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10:43.38evlIs there some special trick to get Copy to PTR working?
10:43.56|Pixel|the trick is patience
10:44.35evlAs in the 403 page is just saying the server is overloaded?
10:47.10Nickenyfikenevl: i tried at random hours for two weeks with no luck
10:47.14Nickenyfikenthen i just worked one day
10:47.27Nickenyfikenand it was not like 5 in the morning either
10:47.31Nickenyfikenit was during the day
10:47.40evlI just need to know if the 403 is the right page
10:47.45evlSo I can keep refreshing it :D
10:48.07Nickenyfikendont thing refresh works
10:48.27evlWhat was the error you got then?
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11:03.22KalamadiFunction for setting the absolute location of a frame?
11:04.32Frittiis there one? I think you have to anchor it to nil and position it from there?
11:04.42Frittithat's "absolute wrt screen"
11:04.50Frittidunno what your reference point is
11:06.11KalamadiI'm afraid that's a little bit over my head. I have a frame, I can drag it around with my mouse, but I don't know how to send a script to specify a location
11:06.18Nickenyfikenyou can use UIParent and anchor to CENTER?
11:06.53Nickenyfikenwhat do you mean by "send a script"?
11:07.15MoonWolfyou can also take worldframe, and HIDE IT.
11:07.18MoonWolftry is sometime.
11:07.49Kalamadi<PROTECTED>
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11:08.27Fritti/script Frame:ClearAllPoints(); Frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0)
11:08.38Frittiexpirement with the 0, 0
11:08.44KalamadiMuch love.
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11:13.34KalamadiAlright, I've gotten that down
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11:16.12KalamadiI'm happy now. I think I'm on the track towards making a viable slashcommands system for FB2 =D
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11:44.53XLVIIis msn not working for anyone else?
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11:56.30Tekkub"The not-quite-completedness of the area became evident after I was killed by a blue and white-checkered box."
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12:02.13Nickenyfikenlol
12:03.47JensWhat's the mod guild on TK?
12:04.23DhragaBtw, anyone tried the ptr or beta, and noticed any bliz built in spell alert ?
12:04.55Tekkubyes, and they gave us access to a lot of spellcasting infos
12:04.57JensWell... all NPC's have been gone since I transferred yesterday, so I haven't had the chance.
12:05.32DhragaTekkub, so this means we dont have to use the SpellAlertSCT or Wichhunt ?
12:06.02DhragaOr are those still superior to the built in version ?
12:06.04Tekkubit means addons don't have to do stupid shit to try to figure out what spell is being cast
12:06.12DhragaAha...
12:07.15abbat_wergh ;(
12:07.26abbat_wno spellalert in wow2.0?
12:07.34abbat_wi like my spellalert sct
12:07.45DhragaSweet, I noticed that SpellAlertSCT was updated for Bc, will WichHunt work with the 2.0, and if so wich of th ones do you recommend Tekkub ?
12:07.57axxois it hard to convert an addon to ace2 if you know exactly notting about lua/ace/stuff? :) i'm sick of having ace+ace2, but some mods i like still are ace1 (just want to know if i should even try, i'm a decent coder overall)
12:08.07Tekkubno clue, don't really use em
12:08.11Dhragaok
12:08.32Tekkubaxxo, and what's wrong with ace1?
12:08.34DhragaI myself is a SpellAlertSCT user, anyone in here that uses Wichhunt ?
12:08.48axxoTekkub: notting, just seems silly to have both ace & ace2
12:08.49JensI do Dhraga.
12:08.53Tekkubwhy?
12:09.02axxobecause.
12:09.04DhragaTekkub, will ACE1 be updated for 2.0 ?
12:09.07axxoi'm wierd like that
12:09.17Tekkubno matter what your mother says, because is not a reason
12:09.25axxo2 libs that do kinda the same or exactly the same
12:09.30axxoits kinda counter to the ace idea thingy imo
12:09.55Kirkburn<Jens> What's the mod guild on TK? <-- see the channel title?
12:09.57DhragaJens, nice... Have you tried the SpellAlertSCT and if so, do you find the Wichhunt superior in any way from SASCT ?
12:11.01JensDhraga: Haven't tried SASCT, but I'm quite happy with WH.
12:11.17axxoTekkub: come on, witty comment
12:11.24DhragaJens, okies good enough answer, I'll give it a try =)
12:12.46Tekkubuhm, Ace2 is a monster compard to Ace :P
12:12.58Dhragackknight, is it possible that you'll implement support for hires maps in Cartograph ?
12:13.03IndustrialTekkub: rwar
12:13.14axxoTekkub: more reasons not have both ;-)
12:13.26[Ammo]WitchHunt works in TBC
12:13.29[Ammo]just use the Ace2 TBC branc
12:13.32DhragaThanks ammo =)
12:13.33axxowhat are hires maps?
12:13.36[Ammo]and has options to push the messages to SCT
12:13.37TekkubAce1 is like, a single Ace2 lib in comparison
12:13.39[Ammo]so why use SpellAlertSCT
12:13.49Tekkubwhat's wrong with having it still around if it still works :P
12:14.22axxowhy make ace2 when ace1 clearly works
12:14.41Dhragaaxxo, HiResMaps : http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4040-1-yatlas.html or http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3324
12:14.43Tekkubcause Ace1 had some wonkey shit to it *coughacedbcough*
12:15.14axxoah, hi-res, was like reading hires :)
12:15.24Dhragaheh =) soory, typo
12:16.49axxosince you refuse to awnser my question, i'll just try and see how far i get :)
12:17.06DhragaTekkub, will ace1 still work in patch 2.0 (or get updated for it) ?
12:17.15[Ammo]I think Kaelten is updating it
12:17.18Industrialaxxo: why use ace1 when you can make it yourself? shoo.
12:17.19[Ammo]including KCI as well
12:17.22Tekkubyes talk to kael
12:17.26Industrialaxxo: redicuous :P
12:17.30Industrial+l
12:17.30[Ammo]or he already updated it
12:17.32[Ammo]but I'm not sure
12:17.33DhragaAh, okies nice
12:17.38axxoIndustrial: thats not my question/point
12:17.52Industrialaxxo: its my point. YOu update something because you can do better
12:18.02Industrialprogress, bugfixing, new features
12:18.08Industrialin the case of ace2 a rework from the ground up
12:18.21Industrialgo read the code? :S
12:18.27axxoread further up
12:18.54axxoanyway, i got class, afk
12:19.14Industrialaxxo: your question; yes its worth it because of the same reasons
12:19.38Industrialprogress, bugfixing, new features (made possible by the new framework yay)
12:20.51DhragaIs there any Ace addon for the BindOnPickUp addon that I think AL made
12:21.42Dhraga+
12:21.46Dhragaoops :P
12:22.15[Ammo]explain functionality don't ask for addons :p
12:23.14DhragaAaa yes... Anyone using any good Ace'd Buff addon (to view your own buffs in a customized way) pref as minimized layout as possible
12:23.14DhragaAmmo sorry
12:23.43DhragaThe BindOnPickUp addon bypasses the confirmation screen for the BoP items lwhen playing solo
12:24.22Industrialno
12:24.23Dhraga*confirmation frame* that is
12:24.30Dhragaok Industrial, thanks
12:24.38Industrialmaybe an idea for automaton, Dhraga
12:24.53DhragaMmmm.... :D
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12:26.46DhragaIndustrial, would you consider adding auto accept summon into Automaton ?
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12:28.36Dhraga-cough- sorry not your addon I just noticed Industrial
12:28.40Industrial## Author: weab
12:28.40Industrial:p
12:28.58Dhragahehe aye, löooked it up (after I already asked the question:P)
12:29.14DhragaANd I noticed that the feature already was on ToDo
12:29.39Industrial\o/
12:29.44Industrial3. Profit
12:29.48Dhraga<-- splling like a mad cow again, Must have butterfingers
12:29.55Industrial~emulate Industrial
12:29.59purlOgm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
12:30.10DhragaHaha =)
12:31.03DhragaMmm.... lucky me ! i has some coffe still in the cup from 6 hours ago... tumm
12:31.20Dhragaaaargh... tumm = yumm
12:31.36Industrialugh Im so horrible with names. I need to find a name for my new Atrox (not male nore female) Metaphysicist (sorta like warlock)
12:31.58KirkburnFor what?
12:32.04IndustrialAnarchy Online
12:32.15KirkburnAnd how on earth is a Metaphysiscist like a warlock? :P
12:32.25Dhragalol
12:32.29Kirkburnweird game =)
12:32.32Industrialcaster, pets, crowd control?
12:32.48DhragaSounds more like something on its way to the loony house dressed in a cape
12:32.50KirkburnIndriel?
12:33.03Industrialok 1 rule
12:33.09Industrialit cant have iel or oth in it
12:33.13Industrial=P
12:33.14Kirkburnaww
12:33.53Industrialsigh... *tries finding a norse dictionary names list thingy again*
12:34.48KirkburnIndaar, Indel, Pathos, Vellian, Hinos
12:35.41DhragaIndustrial, tried the http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/ ?
12:36.24Dhragaor http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pound/sfng.html or http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/names/fantasylinks.htm
12:37.46DhragaIndustrial, this one is actually kinda good and extensive : http://www.squid.org/tools/names/
12:39.57DhragaMaby your an *Azubal* character
12:40.01Dhraga;)
12:40.52DhragaOh yes rigth, what buff frame do you guys use ?
12:41.31IndustrialDhraga: thx
12:41.48odti like ebb
12:42.03odtworth the space it uses on my small resolution
12:42.57DhragaHmm.. ace addon ?
12:45.36Dhragaodt. where can I find ebb ?
12:46.17[Ammo]ElkBuffBar
12:46.19[Ammo]it's on SVN
12:46.22DhragaThanks
12:47.17IndustrialShaitan
12:47.25Industrialbut i guess thats taken, worth a try
12:47.32DhragaIndustrial, sounds good
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12:47.49FtH|eaglehi
12:48.23IndustrialDhraga: its the islamic equivilent of satan
12:48.25IndustrialxD
12:48.33DhragaLoL
12:48.44Industrialvalent*
12:48.56DhragaYou will be most appriciated of some cultures *not* :P
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12:50.08DhragaThe ElkBB, it have buff abbrivation and bars, are those possible to toggle off and just have the icons + timers... I'm used to SatrinaBuffFrame and its verry minimalistic comapred to elk
12:50.25[Ammo]then use satrinabuffframe
12:50.26[Ammo]shrug
12:51.15DhragaAmmo, No dont take me wrong, the satrina isnt verry maintained if at all... I'm undergoing a total rework of my compilation and trying to find similair addons
12:51.33DhragaSince I suspect that most 5.0 addons will stop working
12:51.48abbat_wDharga, which one?
12:52.05DhragaAbbat_w : wich one wich one ?
12:52.09Dhraga;)
12:52.13abbat_wI mean addon ;)
12:52.15abbat_wYou addon
12:52.18[Ammo]or you could just use the default blizz debuff things and move them
12:52.24[Ammo]they have timers included
12:52.30[Ammo]so I see no real problem there
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12:53.08DhragaAbbat_w, no sorry I havent coded any own addon... Only maintain a large compilation of addons for several guilds atm
12:53.42abbat_wIndustrial, would you consider adding auto standup function in Automation? For example i sit down and click on mount icon i just stand up
12:54.47Dhraga[ammo], Mmm I guess thats true, so I guess I use Buffalo to move and scale the buff frames then ?
12:54.48Industrialim not the author
12:54.57Industrialweab is
12:55.26abbat_wSitOrStand() func ;)
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12:55.40abbat_wjust like ExDismount do it
12:55.45abbat_wEzDism...
12:56.38sylvanaarman i just spen hours writing a xslt transform - most of it trying to read the w3c documentation
12:57.09vhaarrXSLT is confusing.
12:57.45vhaarrEspecially when dealing with DocBook, XSLT, XSL-FO and stuff like FOP.
12:57.51vhaarrIt's just too much to wrap your head around.
12:57.58sylvanaaryeah - it was for transforming the output from the saved variables converter thats on curse
12:58.29sylvanaari think that the output it produces is flawed
12:58.57CIA-1703rabbit * r18421 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Attempt to clear the cursor when wearing a set.
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12:59.58sylvanaarhttp://ace.pastey.net/2855 look how its dealing with string and integer table keys
13:02.14sylvanaaruse of name= vs index= is wrong im fairly certain
13:02.57DhragaTekkub, you still around ?
13:05.03Tekkubyes
13:05.08Tekkubnandayo?
13:06.23Dhragawould you consider addon a toggleble feature to squeenix, to make the layout possible to look like RicoMiniMap: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5686
13:06.35Dhragaaddon = adding
13:07.04DhragaI kinda liked that rounded corner
13:08.14[Ammo]it's just another imagemap as far as I can see
13:09.06Dhragaok
13:11.03DhragaAh yes, another question :) If I use the PerfectRaid Layout on agUF, will I miss any features that the PR has ?
13:11.14Frittiwww.wowace.com -> 404 not found (?)
13:11.18Dhragaif anyone know
13:11.45Frittioh now it works *boggle*
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13:16.44DhragaIm considering to switch to mikmaSBT, anyone using it ?
13:16.58vhaarrmikma?
13:17.00vhaarr~msbt
13:17.07purlfrom memory, msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html
13:17.07Dhraga'
13:17.07Dhragayes
13:17.07vhaarrNo?
13:17.21vhaarr~mikma
13:17.23purlMikma is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT either
13:18.04Dhragavhaarr, r u using msbt ?
13:18.09vhaarrno
13:18.13Dhragaok
13:19.25Josh_Borkemorning!
13:19.31Dhragamorning
13:25.07IndustrialI have reached my limit.
13:25.26IndustrialIts not possible for me to react in a friendly way anymore to stupid people on the forums
13:25.39Industrialthats why ill keep the honour and leave myself.
13:25.49IndustrialIve had it. its not fun for me anymore
13:25.54Industrialits supposed to be a game
13:26.18DhragaAre you talking about wow or AO ?
13:26.22Industrialnot a 'we make custom fit addons for you' shop
13:26.26Industrialwow
13:26.28Industrialand wowace
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13:27.42Josh_Borkelol
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13:34.37phyberwonder which post it was that pushed him over the edge.
13:35.14FtH|eaglethe last one in ace 2 addons
13:36.12phyberyeah, found it just as i said that.
13:36.14phyberreading now.
13:37.03FtH|eaglewonder why, just some guy who asked for comparable addons in ace 2
13:53.16MikmamikmaSBT :D
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13:59.01CIA-1703phyber * r18422 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua Fizzle.toc):
13:59.01CIA-17Fizzle:
13:59.01CIA-17- Try the :ShowTablet() function again.
13:59.02CIA-17- Updated TOC to 20000.
13:59.02CIA-17- Needs tablet thing testing.
14:00.34nevcairielback
14:01.39Mikmaok hi
14:02.37Josh_Borkewhere are the dreamchat updates! i demand options to change channel colors!
14:04.16Mikmanevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender3
14:05.14nevcairielwiki lags :/
14:05.48nevcairieli suck at writing wiki pages tho.
14:06.12Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3189.0 <- lawl
14:07.33CIA-1703phyber * r18423 10BagSlots/BagSlots.toc:
14:07.33CIA-17BagSlots:
14:07.34CIA-17- Update TOC to 20000
14:07.45nevcairieloh noes NPCs on beta still down
14:08.03Mikmawtf is wrong with it? :D
14:08.05phyber"I'll add a Big Red Button (TM) that will log out your whole raid for you if you like!
14:08.08phyberSeriously though, not a chance."
14:08.37Mikmamy gf started to play my account today when i was sleeping and she came into the bedroom with my laptop and said "where in the hell are all the npc's and mobs?"
14:09.05phyber"sleeping, like i was."
14:09.49MikmaJosh_Borke: ain't colorchanging already in DreamChat, i think AKX did it
14:09.49nevcairiellol
14:10.14Josh_Borkeah, ok :-) haven't checked in a while
14:13.20CIA-1703phyber * r18424 10FuBar_NetStatsFu/FuBar_NetStatsFu.toc:
14:13.20CIA-17FuBar_NetStatsFu:
14:13.20CIA-17- Update TOC to 20000
14:15.40CIA-1703rabbit * r18425 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Indentation.
14:15.51CIA-1703phyber * r18426 10FuBar_GCInFu/FuBar_GCInFu.toc:
14:15.52CIA-17FuBar_GCInFu:
14:15.52CIA-17- Are you so eager to upgrade your TOC? I will be happy to accomodate you.
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14:22.13Mikmanevcairiel: bug in BT3, do this: bind all keys in bar1, then set the button-amount to ie.5, then mouseover the Keybindings -menu :)
14:22.59nevcairieli know
14:23.56CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r18428 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Options.lua): Bartender3: added some checks when changing number of buttons, should avoid errors with keybindings and rows.
14:24.09nevcairielnow i dont know anymore
14:24.12nevcairielwhat did you say?
14:24.42sbuhm
14:24.43Mikmai like cake
14:24.43CIA-1703phyber * r18427 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.toc:
14:24.44CIA-17ManaPerc:
14:24.44CIA-17- TOC 20000
14:24.50sbuWTB: TBC -> trunk :p
14:26.49CIA-1703phyber * r18429 10SeriousBuffTimers/ (SeriousBuffTimers.lua SeriousBuffTimers.toc):
14:26.49CIA-17SeriousBuffTimers:
14:26.50CIA-17- Update TOC to 20000
14:26.50CIA-17- MAde 's' local, since t's only used once, like 'hr'.
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14:32.25AKXnevcairiel: fix the frame leaping bug in DC
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14:34.01MikmaAKX: code DreamChat
14:34.47AKXFeatures req'd?
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14:35.26MikmaAKX: just make it better :D
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14:44.01AKXMikma, such as how?
14:44.29MikmaAKX: well fix all the bugs and make it work better :P i don't like the frame jumping up and down
14:44.40AKXI cba to fix that :D
14:44.46Mikmawell that's a bug
14:44.53Mikmaand that's why i won't use it :P
14:45.27AKXNot My Problem :>
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14:45.34AKXI use it for no real reason now :D
14:46.00Mikmai want it to replace my chats but i can't use it when it jumps
14:55.52CIA-1703bhattu 07TBC * r18430 10Chronometer/Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua:
14:55.52CIA-17Chronometer: TBC Branch
14:55.52CIA-17- Fix right-click-to-stop-timer handling, hopefully
14:56.18nevcairieloh Mikma i decided to implement dreamlayout inside of Bt3 today.
14:56.26Mikmanevcairiel: sweet :)
14:56.51Mikmanevcairiel: should we try doing it with texture?
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14:57.11Mikmaso there wouldn't be a need of making 120+ frames
14:57.42Mikmai'll make a 64x64 transparent .tga and start the tests :D
14:58.14nevcairieleach button consists of like 8 textures
14:58.21nevcairielone more wont make it bad.
14:58.25nevcairieleach texture=frame
14:58.32Mikmabut let's try replacing the NormalTexture
14:58.40Mikmaatm it's sized as 0 pixels
14:59.09nevcairielsure try it
14:59.39nevcairieli am doing mana tombs now, will look at it afterwards
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15:01.15TheKarni think i might have asked this before but does anyone know of an addon that automatically makes item links when you type a message? thats ace2 ofc
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15:02.39Mikmanevcairiel: http://wow.reaktio.net/empty.tga
15:03.50AKXTheKarn - Linkerator, but that's not ace
15:06.43TheKarni might look into making it ACE2 :)
15:06.49TheKarnout of boredom
15:07.19MikmaTheKarn: KC_Items has that feature in too, just have a look at it's safe-method
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15:07.42Mikmait requires something like \[item] to work and normal [item] won't be completed
15:08.05Mikmai personally hate the plain [type to complete] -features
15:08.08TheKarnthe thing is i only want the linking part, the rest of KC_Items is bulk and a memory whore
15:08.16Mikmacan't paste quests since the titles get completed
15:08.29Mikma[Stormpike Insignia Rank 2] Kill something!
15:08.53TheKarni might make it use {} instead of []
15:08.57TheKarnwould that make more sense
15:08.58Mikmahey that's good
15:09.03Mikma{itemname}
15:09.08Mikmawould work kinda nice
15:09.08TheKarnor rather allow you to choose the parenthesis
15:09.41TheKarnso if you wanted to really play it safe, i-Stormpike Insignia Rank 2-i kinda thing
15:09.44vhaarrBloat.
15:09.48vhaarr[] is fine.
15:09.53Mikmadon't listento vhaarr
15:09.56Mikmahe's an ass
15:09.59TheKarnlol
15:10.06thalie<3 vhaarr
15:10.08TheKarnit wouldnt me much bloat in the way of the logic :P
15:10.11vhaarr:P
15:10.18vhaarrTheKarn: There's such a thing as UI bloat.
15:10.21vhaarrAnd this is it.
15:10.29TheKarnhow so?
15:10.32Mikmano it isn't
15:10.38TheKarnthere is no ui for this
15:10.46TheKarnor rather ... no gui
15:10.57vhaarrDo as you please, I'm telling you [] is sufficient.
15:11.06TheKarni know
15:11.10TheKarnand as such it will be default
15:11.58TheKarnbut for people that use [] elsewhere and dont want it to match, there will be an option to change it
15:11.58Mikmavhaarr: try to paste some questlevels with [level] in them
15:11.58Mikmayou'll see what happens
15:11.58Mikmai can show you a SS ... just a sex
15:12.00TheKarnmikma, that should only matter if i do [<itemid>] links
15:12.16vhaarrLinkerator works fine.
15:12.31Mikmawell Ludwig has the same feature in it and i will show what happens
15:12.45vhaarrLudwig sucks then, it works fine with Linkerator IIRC.
15:12.53vhaarrI don't see a need to Ace2 it anyway.
15:12.59Mikmatest it with lvl1 and see
15:15.58Mikmaoh yay, it's "fixed" with ludwig or something is fucked up
15:15.59TheKarnvhaarr, the reason i'm going to ace2 it is a) i want a mod that does it, and b) i want to try writing a mod that does it
15:16.13TheKarnso why not write the mod myself and use linkerator as a reference?
15:16.36vhaarrTheKarn: I'm not trying to stop you, I'm just saying [] is enough and you don't need {} or any other enclosures.
15:17.08TheKarnvhaarr, i dont see whats so wrong about giving users the choice of parenthesis
15:17.17Mikma<1712> <vhaarr> I don't see a need to Ace2 it anyway.
15:17.18Mikmaliar
15:17.50vhaarrTheKarn: Like I said, in my opinion that's just bloat.
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15:18.01vhaarrWho cares, go code, I can't stop you, I'm just voicing my opinion.
15:18.04TheKarnso choice is bloat?
15:18.09vhaarrIn this case, yes.
15:18.13TheKarnin all cases
15:18.21vhaarrI didn't say that.
15:18.23TheKarntheres no need to allow a windows user to change their background
15:18.29vhaarrYes, there is.
15:18.30TheKarnby the same logic, thats bloat
15:18.34vhaarrNot at all.
15:18.48vhaarrI'm not going to discuss more, I've just voiced my opinion, do what the hell you want.
15:19.02Mikmalike i said, don't listen to him xD
15:19.12TheKarnwhere's the difference? a background is a nicety, as is allowing the user to choose their parenthesis
15:20.45vhaarrTheKarn: There's such a thing as color blindness, eye conditions that make you less able to discern contrast and other things.
15:21.08TheKarni'm pretty sure with a black background you could make out any colour
15:21.27vhaarrI'm pretty sure there are people who consider black an ugly color and want their background blue or whatever.
15:21.40vhaarr[] is an established standard, you gain *nothing* by allowing other enclosures.
15:22.01vhaarrThis isn't even worth discussing, I don't see why you're arguing with me. I just said what I thought and you can do whatever you want.
15:22.17TheKarni'm wondering why you thought it
15:22.22TheKarnits what ... a few extra lines of code
15:22.34TheKarnpractically nothing extra in the addon
15:22.55TheKarnand you consider it bloat even though it gives users like Mikma the choice when they find [] restrictive because other addons use it aswell
15:35.38nevcairielyay server restart
15:35.41nevcairielwe get the npcs back
15:37.29FtH|eagleis anyone familiar with creating a scroll bar?
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15:38.30DrDreZOMG
15:38.36DrDreTHE INTERNETS GETTING SHUTDOWN!! http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36027
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15:46.50HealthYes, shut the us out from the inet
15:48.12Mikmaamerican president will walk into his office, pull out the control-switch from his drawer and turn it to "0"
15:48.52Kirkburn*cough* It's the Inquirer *cough*
15:50.12KirkburnI read it for a while, then I got bored of the continual spelling mistakes, sensationalism, non-articles, made-up crap, lies, idiots, fabrications ....
15:50.59Mikmawhaaat? you actually have read it?
15:51.27Gngskjust look at the pictures
15:51.33Mikmaindeed
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17:06.06*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | WoW 2.0 scheduled for December 5th | !!!Libs has been purged. Use standalones or embeds instead.
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17:06.42Mikmapurl: hi
17:06.43purlhello, mikma
17:06.56thalie~roulette
17:06.58purlACTION watches thalie pull the trigger:  Click!
17:06.58Fiskerdtsk Mikma
17:07.08Mikma~tryme
17:07.10purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click.
17:07.44Elkano~tryyourself
17:08.52Grineit doesn't check channels like /general etc Mikma
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17:09.08MikmaGrine: i think it did on me
17:09.09Grinethough my mod wouldn't do general/trade/worlddefende ofc
17:09.23Grineit picks up names on mouseover
17:09.34Grineraid members, friends and guildies
17:10.00Elkanowell, since there is no API, you would have to whois everybody in the channel
17:10.23sylvanaaryeah, that blows, you need a unit relation to them
17:10.30Grinetrue...
17:10.42sylvanaaranything else is going to be a mess
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17:10.51Elkanoit would also take hours in large channels ;)
17:10.59Grinesylvanaar: that would be a mess as well XD
17:11.14Grinedamn it was such a good idea :P
17:11.28Grinehmm...
17:11.33sylvanaarmouseover, target
17:11.42GrineI could make a mod that just picks up anyone who joins the channel...
17:12.08Bapspasta: you around?
17:12.10Grinesylvanaar: sorry missunderstood you, thought you meant the whois thing would be a mess
17:12.43pastamancerBaps: sometimes
17:12.52Mikmanevcairiel: well, did you try it? :)
17:13.01sylvanaarit is sortta messy, there are some mods that do it already
17:13.39sylvanaarpretty sure that prat does it
17:13.47Grinedoing whois for 40 ppl wuold suck...
17:13.47Bapspasta: I just sent you a PM on the forums about the indicators table.
17:13.56GrineI'll just have a look at prat
17:14.15nevcairielMikma: nop, created a new frame
17:14.24Mikmanevcairiel: don't :P test the image first
17:14.38nevcairieltoo late
17:14.41Mikmanevcairiel: my headache is giving up so i might retest the image too
17:14.44Mikmait's never too late
17:15.00nevcairielits commiting as we speak
17:15.01CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r18432 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (5 files):
17:15.01CIA-17Bartender3:
17:15.01CIA-17- new Style option per Bar
17:15.01CIA-17- Dreamlayout integrated :)
17:15.02CIA-17- "Zoomed" is another option in Style
17:15.02Kaeltenanyone know what could be wrong witht his?
17:15.02Kaelten<PROTECTED>
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17:15.12Mikmanevcairiel: assclown xD
17:15.25ElkanoKaelten, perl?
17:15.41Kaeltenelkano I think its based off of that its from a lighty conf file
17:15.42nevcairielKirkburn: now you can remove your dreamlayout dir.
17:16.11Elkanowell, escape the ? char?
17:16.34sylvanaarthat would be my guess too
17:17.47KaeltenElkano: thanks :) it worked
17:17.48Elkanoyou're welcome :) teach me riding ;)
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17:17.50Kaeltenlol
17:18.13CIA-1703mikma * r18433 10/branches/Bartender3_Dreamlayout/: Bartender3_Dreamlayout: Removed since nevcairiel integrated this in Bartender3
17:18.13Hjaltehttp://www.wowace.com/files/ <-- any way i can make it sort by last modified?
17:18.13nadashmm, this new listing at www.wowace.com/files.. is it permanent? and if so, will sorting by 'last modified' be possible? :)
17:18.13nadasHjalte: hehe
17:18.15HjalteHehe..
17:18.15Kaeltenlol
17:18.20Kaeltenits a temporary fix
17:18.24Kaeltensomeone was using it to DOS us
17:18.25nadasah :p
17:18.36Kaeltensince it was a php script it spawned a lot of processes
17:18.37Mikmanevcairiel: i'm still planning on trying the texture again ;) if i get it to work i'll remove the DL from BT3 muahahhaa
17:18.40Kaeltenthis way lightty takes care of it
17:18.46nadasthe addicts are already in panic you see ;)
17:18.49sylvanaar^/files/index\.php\?path=(.+)$
17:19.33ElkanoKaelten, why not cache the page and update at most every 15secs or so?
17:19.45HjalteIs there an ace version of bottombar around?
17:19.53Elkanoor make it static at all ;)
17:20.24Mikmanevcairiel: you didn't add the buff-layout in?
17:20.46nevcairielnah
17:20.48nevcairieli hate it
17:20.58Mikmaoh man
17:21.07Mikmanow i deleted the code already :P well
17:21.16Mikmai'll make a separate addon for it then
17:21.24Mikmaif i find the interest anymore
17:21.30[Ammo]why should an actionbar addon touch the buffs
17:21.35nevcairielexactly
17:21.36nevcairiel:)
17:21.43sylvanaar21000 downloads for my fubar plugin and not 1 vote or any feedback
17:21.45CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r18434 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua Style.lua): Bartender3: woops, debug msgs still in
17:22.03Mikma[Ammo]: because it's dreamlayout not dreamactionbar
17:23.04nevcairielnow it is dreamactionbarlayout
17:23.27Mikmai don't like the name :D
17:24.15pastamancerBaps: GridFrameClass.prototype.Reset and GridFrame:UpdateOptionsMenu are the only functions that use the local indicators table
17:24.23pastamancernevcairiel: dreamcoat!
17:24.37Mikmasomething more catchy for the style
17:24.46Mikmalike "Maia"
17:25.37Mikmaoh well, people know it as Dreamlayout so..
17:25.43Bapspasta: if the table itself is exported, multiple mods can add to it safely, instead of each having to deal with it separately
17:25.50nevcairielthere, should work perfectly now
17:25.53CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r18435 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_BarClass.lua: Bartender3: we only need to set the style once, not every time the layout is refreshed
17:26.56Mikmanevcairiel: you should have ag make the advanced-layout
17:26.56Bapsthat way, they don't interfere with each other by hardcoding the table for themselves
17:27.16Kirkburnnevcairiel, woot
17:27.23nevcairielMikma: i have a pretty good idea howto do it, but no time yet
17:27.26KirkburnI'm playing with Garry's Mod 10 atm, tis awesome
17:27.37nevcairielMikma: plus i am thinking about doing some unitframes ^^
17:27.40KirkburnBeen kicked from many servers from blowing up them or their creations =)
17:27.44Mikmanevcairiel: well ok, the thing you added already is a plus
17:27.57Bapsalso, the values in the table are used in other routies, such as SetIndicator and ClearIndicator
17:27.57MikmaKirkburn: what's that
17:28.12Mikmanevcairiel: what kind of uf's?
17:28.14Bapsnot to mention CreateIndicator.  =)
17:28.16KirkburnHalf Life 2 mod which is now a 'game' in it's own right
17:28.17Mikmanevuf!
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17:28.24Kirkburnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry%27s_Mod
17:28.43nevcairielwasnt garrys mod just some physics fun?
17:28.45pastamancerBaps: I'll split GridFrame:UpdateOptionsMenu into two functions
17:29.10Bapscan I ask what the objection is to exporting the table as part of the frameClass?
17:29.19Bapsthe two are tied together
17:30.39BapsI understand why it's local.. makes sense, good design.. but at the same time, classes that inherit from the frameClass should have access to it.
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17:30.53Bapssince the frameClass depends on it
17:30.53nevcairielMikma: no idea what to name it, but agUF is bugging in BC and i wanted to create a really simple UF for my personal use with the ABF style from agUF
17:31.28pastamancerBaps: because it's a convenience so I can loop over the indicators rather than doing copy/paste.  It is not part of the frameClass.
17:31.42Mikmanevcairiel: i'll take it :O name it Working UnitFrame
17:31.48Bapspasta: it's data used by the frameClass
17:32.03Mikmanevcairiel: all i wan't is ABF + Steel.tga + portrait
17:32.14Mikmawant*
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17:32.51CIA-1703neriak * r18437 10FruityLoots/FruityLoots.toc: FruityLoots - mega update (bumped TOC to 20000!)
17:33.01Bapsseems simpler and cleaner to juse add "GridFrame.frameClass.indicators = indicators" as well as more flexible than to add more code
17:33.08Josh_Borkeaguf works for me in TBC
17:33.10Bapss/juse/just/
17:33.28Josh_BorkeBaps: that opens up those things being able to modify the table
17:33.45Bapsjosh: exactly!  =)
17:34.05CIA-1703neriak * r18438 10FruityLoots/FruityLoots.lua: FruityLoots - omg forgot to touch core!11
17:34.58pastamancerBaps: and yet, only frameClass:Reset and GridFrame:UpdateOptionsMenu are the *only* functions that use that table
17:35.35Bapspasta: they're the only ones that use the table by reference.  CreateIndicator SetIndicator and ClearIndicator use the data contained in it
17:35.38CIA-1703neriak * r18439 10/branches/Paparazzi/:
17:35.38CIA-17Paparazzi:
17:35.38CIA-17- copied to branches
17:35.41CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r18440 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Core.lua Options.lua): Bartender3: removed rows and style from the menubar until i can fix those.
17:36.02pastamancerBaps: yes.  I could have hard-coded  the indicators in those two functions, and it would work the same
17:36.27Bapsdon't get me wrong.  I think that the looping is good
17:36.38Bapsit reduces work when people extend the frameclass
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17:36.55Bapsbut one thing you can't currently do without modifying grid is add entries to the table
17:36.58Saroz_sup people
17:37.10Bapsbecause there's no access to it unless you export it somehow
17:37.41pastamancerBaps: yes, and once I split UpdateOptionsMenu, there won't be any need to export the indicators table
17:37.41Bapsthe looping also reduces copy/paste errors
17:37.51HjalteClique BC - When i assign spells to the ooc tab, it still casts the friendly spells when ooc :(
17:37.51Grineis there anywhere that I can see  all the different aguf styles?
17:38.12thalieother than in your ui ;)
17:38.27Bapsjust seems like a lot more work (and less flexible) than allowing sub-modules to extend it
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17:42.37Bapsanother option that would be easy would be a method to add items to the table.. is that what you're planning?
17:42.40Saroz_Anyone on tempest keep alliance? I need a raid
17:42.51MikmaSaroz_: i'm in there in like 20secx
17:42.59Saroz_cool
17:43.09nevcairieli am on as well
17:43.42Saroz_my nick is "Sarozz"
17:44.00nevcairieljoine our coding guild then
17:44.00nevcairiel:D
17:44.02nevcairiel-e
17:44.03Grineblah I'll just skip aguf again >.<
17:44.04Saroz_name?
17:44.13GrineCBA to change from oUF
17:44.37MikmaSaroz_: CastSpell
17:44.46Saroz_k, wait, my netcard is acting up
17:44.46Saroz_BRB
17:46.21CIA-1703xuerian * r18441 10AnchorsAway/AnchorsAway-1.0/AnchorsAway-1.0.lua: AnchorsAway: Code cleanup, frFR localization tweaks.
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17:50.47CIA-1703xuerian * r18443 10XLoot/ (XLoot.lua localization.frFR.lua): XLoot: Removed extraneous "CloseLoot()" in hopes of not getting blocked by 2.0. FrFR updates.
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17:53.42evlStupid question: The addon zip without a version # prefix is the latest?
17:53.46Sarozgive invite to castspell :p
17:53.50Xuerianevl: Yes
17:54.03evlIs there a zipping script for TBC addons?
17:54.06Prophyanyone use Winaceupdater have a problem where it stops checking for updaters after half of the mods are checked for updates?
17:54.14evlThought I'd be better safe than sorry and fix my addons now in PTR
17:54.24XuerianProphy: Some mods seem to trip it up. Uncheck the addon it stopped at/thought it finished with
17:54.29Saroznevcairiel
17:54.48nevcairielcant invite
17:54.59evlAny Ace2 Font changing addon?
17:55.04Sarozdid they remove the skull from bosses?
17:55.05GrineXuerian: usually mods from branches ie DreamChat
17:55.11SarozA'Dal isnt a world boss anymore
17:55.26Xuerianevl: Any addon with branches will have {Addon}[Branch]{version}.zip or something similar, and for tbc branches, [branch] is usually tbc, ironically :P
17:55.32Sarozanyway, WTB raid, Tempest Keep
17:55.40XuerianGrine: Yeah
17:55.41evlXuerian: ah thank you, ignorant of me not to check :)
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17:59.26CIA-1703neriak * r18445 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - added german localization, please check korean, the file was in utf-8 encoding. dunno if something is broken now
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18:00.11haste_hmm
18:00.17haste_hello haste!
18:00.20CartasHi old chap!
18:00.24CartasFrom Dreamhack! :p
18:00.29haste_yes
18:00.32haste_In Sweden!
18:00.36CartasI know.
18:00.38haste_fucking 4h 30min drive =\
18:00.39Cartas12nt.dreamhack.se
18:00.53haste_nice colors Cartas !
18:00.57haste_oh, I know why I cam
18:01.01CartasThat's what colour it's in :O
18:01.03haste_oh, I know why I can't connect to haste!
18:01.24Mikmacoz u sux?
18:01.25haste_only only accepts connections from 192.168.0.X
18:01.29CartasOoo, Mikma.
18:01.30haste_s/only/it/
18:01.32CartasThat was rough.
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18:01.41Mikmabut it's true
18:01.43Mikmahaste sux
18:01.45Cartass/only//
18:01.48haste_:(
18:01.50Cartass/that//
18:01.52Cartass/that/ /
18:01.56haste_fail Cartas !
18:01.57Cartass/that/Moo.
18:02.00Cartass/that/Moo./
18:02.03haste_s/fail/win/
18:02.04CartasHaha.
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18:02.16CartasI own you, Haste!
18:02.20haste_:(
18:02.29Cartass/Haste!/everyone but Haste!/
18:02.33Cartas<3
18:03.04Mikmas/sux/sux ass liek a donkey/
18:03.24Cartass/<3/<3 all but Mikma now.
18:03.29Cartass/<3/<3 all but Mikma now./
18:03.30Cartas:(
18:03.34Cartaslol
18:03.54Mikmanevcairiel: hmm, after all, the frames might be the only things that work perfectly with all buttons
18:04.04Cartass/lol/Hm, it seems I suck at including the last slash, doesn't it?/
18:04.37Cartass/s/lol/Hm, it seems I suck at including the last slash, doesn't it?//lol/
18:04.44CartasHm... it can't work that?
18:04.48CartasPurl = fail!
18:04.56CIA-1703neriak * r18447 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - fixed german strings
18:05.01Josh_Borkeyou can only replace once :-P
18:05.06Josh_Borkes/once/once./
18:05.10Josh_Borkes/once/see/
18:05.20Josh_Borkes/once/or more i guess.../
18:06.24SomaniXuerian already here? ;)
18:06.32XuerianSomani: Seems like it
18:06.34CIA-1703xuerian * r18448 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.lua localization.frFR.lua): XLootMonitor: frFR updates
18:07.57XuerianSomani: What can I do you for?
18:08.23Somani[2006/11/30 19:04:24-203-x1]: XLoot\XLootSkin.lua:32: attempt to index field `FadeHeight' (a nil value)AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:505: in function `InitializeAddon'AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:376: in function `obj_method'AceEvent\AceEvent-2.0.lua:247: in function `TriggerEvent'AceEvent\AceEvent-2.0.lua:902: in function <...\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\libs\AceEvent\AceEvent-2.0.lua:894>  ---
18:08.25Somani-.-
18:08.28Somaniany idea? ;)
18:08.43XuerianGot a full bugsack you can pastey for me?
18:09.07XuerianAh hm
18:09.11XuerianAre you using skinner?
18:09.27Somanibugsack
18:09.28Mikmasinner
18:09.42Somaniskinner? what a skinner? :D
18:09.50Xuerian>_>
18:10.04Somanibah Somani < English skills - kk ^^
18:10.19XuerianIt's grabbing one of oSkin or Skinner's databases.... If Skinner has changed it's layout then well, not much to be done
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18:10.33Xuerian(except download it and see what it was changed to...)
18:10.35Somaniyeah i'm using oSkin ;)
18:10.50XuerianoSkin, a old version?
18:11.03MikmaEnglish 1 - Somani 0
18:11.04evlAny easy way to change the ingame font globally?
18:11.17Xuerianevl: Yep
18:11.19evlI tried replacing the font files but the scaling is all borked
18:11.19Somanihm... about 2 or 3 days old, but going to update
18:11.26Xuerianevl: The no.
18:11.33Xuerians/The/Then/
18:11.53XuerianSomani: Is haste actually doing stuff with the new oskin?
18:12.02haste_how should he know?
18:12.24Xuerians/Somani: Is haste/Haste: Are you/
18:12.41otravihaha
18:12.54SomaniXuerian afaik not, last change 15.oct
18:13.03otraviHELLO!
18:13.13NickenyfikenHIIII!
18:13.17Xuerians/Haste/otravi/
18:13.26Xueriandamn you, purl.
18:13.29Xueriandamn you.
18:13.33otravipurl > you :D
18:13.52XuerianWiseacre.
18:14.15otravibut AFK!
18:14.19Xuerian:P
18:14.55XuerianSomani: Copy and paste the full error from bugsack into ace.pastey.net and link me, but otherwise you'll just have to comment out a line, because I use it with oskin and this is the first I've heard of it
18:15.21Somanikk
18:15.36Mikmanevcairiel: put the Circled in then too
18:16.34SomaniXuerian everything in BugSack exept missing Lokas in Babble-Spell?
18:17.09sylvanaarmeh, my svn account was deleted
18:17.13Sarozffs, secure frames are a pain in the ass
18:17.13XuerianSomani: Only the one error (or errors) that refer to XLoot
18:17.31pastamancerBaps: http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/GridFrame.lua
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18:18.00Nickenyfikenbah i still cant auth on the SVN :-(
18:18.06FwipIs there a way to create a template (frame) in lua?  Or do I have to define it in an XML file (or fake it with a hidden frame)?
18:18.12sylvanaarNickenyfiken: your account was deleted
18:18.22Nickenyfikensylvanaar: why?
18:18.31bolleroRA2 won't work in TBC? or will it?
18:18.36sylvanaarNickenyfiken: it was lost rather
18:18.44vhaarrboller: It will momentarily.
18:18.48pastamancerFwip: you can't make a frame template in lua, but you can make a function that creates (and sets-up) a bunch of frames and then returns them
18:18.50SomaniXuerian: http://ace.pastey.net/2861 <- this is XLoot
18:18.59bollermomentarily
18:19.00boller?
18:19.07vhaarrsoon
18:19.07Nickenyfikensylvanaar: ah i thougth mean i was like suspended cus i had done something
18:19.10bollerThanks vhaarr :)
18:19.40sylvanaarNickenyfiken: yeah, im not sure what to do though
18:20.03Nickenyfikenanyone else got their account deleted?
18:20.16XuerianSomani: http://ace.pastey.net/2862
18:20.29FwipPastamancer:  Okay, thanks
18:21.05XuerianAFK
18:21.27SomaniXuerian or replace oSkin with Skinner, right?
18:23.26Somaniyah it works great for me ;)
18:23.29Somanithx
18:23.46KemayoAnyone know whether the 10% sergeant discount will still be around after the new honor system hits?
18:24.00Somaniso, next one, who feels free to help me with FuBar_AnkhTimerFu ? ;)
18:25.03NickenyfikenSomani: whats to be done?
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18:25.33Somaninormaly addons should have all libs embedded, right?
18:25.44nevcairielwell, yeah
18:25.48Nickenyfikenyes they should ofcourse
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18:26.02Funkeh`hey all
18:26.03Nickenyfikenor else they wont work... not on their own atleast
18:26.38Somani[2006/11/30 19:26:12-208-x1]: FuBar_AnkhTimerFu\AnkhTimerFu.lua:4: Cannot find a library instance of AceLocale-2.0.<in C code>: in function `error'AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:487: in function `AceLibrary'FuBar_AnkhTimerFu\AnkhTimerFu.lua:4: in main chunk  ---
18:26.51Somaniso then...
18:27.12bollerKemayo, no
18:27.13Somaniupdated about 10 times today :D
18:27.26Somanideleted hole dir... -.- same result
18:29.05SomaniNickenyfiken any idea? ;)
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18:29.26ArgolasHi all! every time I use WinAceUpdater.exe, flags installed addon and update without external, the program skip all update and print out "Update complete!" can someone help me?
18:30.23evlI'm pretty new to TBC addon development and I had my own spam filter type addon that hooks UIErrorsFrame_OnEvent, I've renamed Hook to SecureHook but it's still not working
18:30.34FiskerArgolas uninstall !!!libs
18:30.40Fiskeror uncheck it
18:31.05FwipHmm... you can't inherit from a normal frame, can you?  I tried it and got a 'could not find inherited node...' error
18:31.28FwipGuess I'll go back to doing it inline in the for loop
18:31.34vhaarrevl: ErrorMonster?
18:31.40pastamancerFwip: you can only inherit from templates
18:31.40vhaarrIt can throttle.
18:31.43evlvhaarr: no evl_SpamFilter :)
18:32.08evlself:SecureHook("UIErrorsFrame_OnEvent") and then I got the method sig like function evl_SpamFilter:UIErrorsFrame_OnEvent(event, message, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9)
18:32.19nevcairielsecurehook only gets called, you cannot actually modify the function
18:32.25nevcairielits a post-hook
18:32.30vhaarrIndeed, you need to forcefully taint it.
18:32.34nevcairieluse Hook(bla, true)
18:32.35vhaarrWith self:Hook(..., true)
18:32.43evlAha :)
18:33.03evlHave the chatframe names changed?
18:33.04vhaarrBut errormonster works fine, I don't see why you need a custom addon for throttling.
18:33.35evlMine stuffs all errors into ChatFrame2 and remembers the last error so I don't get the spam
18:33.45vhaarrErrorMonster can do that.
18:34.06vhaarrSet the sink to ChatFrame2 and throttle it by X seconds.
18:34.06evlWhy do I want a bigger addon when I have something that works perfectly in less than 20 lines of code?
18:34.30Somanino idea why FuBar_AnkhTimerFu needs an Lib that isn't embedded??
18:34.50KarlThePaganwhich lib somani?
18:34.51Argolastnx
18:34.54Somani[2006/11/30 19:26:12-208-x1]: FuBar_AnkhTimerFu\AnkhTimerFu.lua:4: Cannot find a library instance of AceLocale-2.0.<in C code>: in function `error'AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:487: in function `AceLibrary'FuBar_AnkhTimerFu\AnkhTimerFu.lua:4: in main chunk  ---
18:35.08Somani@ KarlThePagan
18:36.10evlvhaarr: works now,. thanks for the help :)
18:36.19KarlThePaganif AceLocale-2.0.lua doesn't show up in the mod's toc that's a bug Somani
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18:36.50ckknighthey all
18:36.54thaliemorning ck
18:36.58vhaarrugt
18:36.59KarlThePaganif it does show up in the mod's toc then the zip didn't get packaged somehow
18:37.21KarlThePaganhey ck
18:37.30KarlThePagananyone - news on the SVN accounts that were lost?
18:37.34Somanilibs\Tablet\Tablet-2.0.lua
18:37.34Somanilibs\Dewdrop\Dewdrop-2.0.lua
18:37.34Somanilibs\Crayon\Crayon-2.0.lua
18:37.34Somanilibs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua
18:37.34Somanilibs\Babble-Spell\Babble-Spell-2.0.lua
18:37.35Somanilibs\SpecialEvents-Bags\SpecialEvents-Bags-2.0.lua
18:37.37KarlThePaganshould I re-request?
18:37.38Somaniis in the toc
18:37.41KarlThePaganSomani pastey ;)
18:37.52Somani^^ faster this way :D
18:38.05vhaarrBut the difference is that if you do it this way, you'll be kicked next time.
18:38.08ckknightSomani, pastey.
18:38.19Somanijaja -.-
18:38.21ckknightyea, it'll be my honor and duty.
18:38.40KarlThePaganso yea - answer is the same - it's a bug IMO the mod should have AceLocale-2.0.lua in the toc so it gets packaged up as an embedded lib
18:38.52KarlThePaganright?
18:38.53otraviMikma: I heard Lollituma on the radio in Sweden!
18:38.56otraviMikma: think about that :D
18:39.01ckknightAceLocale-2.2
18:39.11KarlThePagan;)
18:39.19Mikmaotravi: wtf is that
18:39.25Somanianyway what would appear if i replace the AceLocale-2.0 with AceLocale-2.0?
18:39.26KarlThePaganLolituma
18:39.27otraviMikma: !!1
18:39.29KarlThePaganhehe
18:39.31ckknightAceLocale-2.2
18:39.36Nickenyfikenotravi: are you from sweden?
18:39.56SomaniKarlThePagan true.. but it isnt :D
18:39.57vhaarrNickenyfiken: Careful now, you'll insult him.
18:40.05Nickenyfikenlol
18:40.28KarlThePaganSomani if you like you can download the entire Ace2 suite and it will work for you
18:40.51Mikmaotravi: that sounds gay. is it?
18:41.01Somanihm....
18:41.06otraviMikma: okey, it's loituma!
18:41.12otraviNickenyfiken: nope, I'm from norway
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18:41.22Mikmaotravi: wtf is that, sounds too damn gay
18:41.26KarlThePaganotravi was it a remix or somethin?
18:41.29KalamadiNeed...sleep...
18:41.32SomaniKarlThePagan but.. it isn't proper
18:41.32evlXuerian: I got the font thing working :P
18:41.46evlXuerian: Whatever:SetFont x 354856818 :D
18:41.49KarlThePaganSomani it's a bug... work around it for now
18:41.59Nickenyfikenotravi: ah ok, so you were in sweden over the day or what?
18:42.00otraviKarlThePagan: no idea
18:42.09otraviNickenyfiken: no, I traveled to Dreamhack
18:42.14KarlThePaganacapella or with techno & shit in the background?
18:42.16otraviMikma: http://youtube.com/watch?v=w3mIVTalnZA :D
18:42.21Nickenyfikenotravi: ah ok :-)
18:42.44Mikmaotravi: dreamhack.. that also sounds gay. ate you gay? :D
18:42.52Nickenyfikenlol
18:43.07NickenyfikenDreamhack hehe, will there be 10k nerd there?
18:43.08KarlThePaganeveryone join Dragonmaw... giving out invites to <Hardo Gay>
18:43.19Nickenyfikennerds*
18:43.29KarlThePaganlol
18:43.42otraviNickenyfiken: no idea
18:43.44otraviMikma: hehe
18:44.01Mikmaotravi: i think this is semi-pervert song you pasted
18:45.42KarlThePaganzomg detailed use-cases really DO help fix bugs <3 Slouken
18:46.31nevcairielwut?
18:47.07nevcairielstupid US forums, been busy all day
18:47.30KarlThePagancardplacing...
18:47.37KarlThePaganhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/50836046.htm
18:47.47KarlThePaganlast post has details on how key modifiers are stripped
18:47.52KarlThePaganlooks like they'll be making a change
18:48.02KarlThePagan<-- Basic
18:48.15Xuerianevl: Lol.
18:49.57KarlThePaganindeed us forums are retarded
18:50.44KarlThePagando most people here use SciTE?
18:50.48KarlThePaganfor lua editing?
18:50.48Mikmahmm Slouken. propably the most loved Blizz-employer
18:50.55otraviKarlThePagan: I did
18:50.59otravichanged to vim tho'
18:51.03KarlThePaganheh
18:51.20KarlThePaganwell I'm in vim and trying to digest ace2 and Grid code
18:51.30vhaarrI use vim.
18:51.40KarlThePaganso yea code-folding, auto-completion and such will help me get started I think
18:51.55JoshBorkeKarlThePagan: set foldmethod=syntax
18:52.03vhaarrvim can do that, but obviously you have to use whatever editor suits you.
18:52.07ckknightmuch love for Slouken.
18:52.12JoshBorkeKarlThePagan: and edit your lua.vim and add the word fold to the end of the function definition line
18:52.20KarlThePagank
18:52.22KarlThePaganty
18:52.54JoshBorkeyou can also set if..end to fold and tables to fold and stuff
18:53.15KarlThePaganyea cool... i'll be tryin scite too
18:53.23KarlThePagani'm an eclipse addict
18:53.26ckknightI'd've done do...end, then...end, function...end
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18:53.58KarlThePaganlua eclipse is ancient and unmaintained it seems
18:54.55vhaarrI wouldn't use Eclipse for Lua, but it's all subjective.
18:55.39KarlThePaganif it supported all the same features I would
18:55.46KarlThePagan(same features as java)
18:55.49KarlThePaganbut that's the catch isn't it?
18:56.37ckknightI find IDEs to be too intrusive and big, and that they dull the mind
18:57.01ckknightI prefer something lightweight to code with that doesn't get in my way, and allows me to do what I want to do
18:57.21XuerianUltraedit. Wee :)
18:57.38otraviMikma: lol
18:57.49Mikmaotravi: bur
18:57.56otraviMikma: uden lo
18:58.04otravis/$/ lars/
18:58.25kergothJoshBorke, you see someone converted the lua 5.0 and 5.1 reference manuals to vim help files? :D
18:58.38kergothcan use K to look up definitions of lua functions now
18:58.47JoshBorkeoooo, nice!
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18:59.43CIA-1703rabbit * r18449 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: First attempt at using item IDs with a relatively decent DB upgrade mechanism. You'll most likely have to educate your ClosetGnome for this upgrade. Please post bug reports on the forum or IRC.
19:03.04Redsunhy boys, there is some errors in:  self.db.profile.oggetti[i].a = PT:ItemInSet(item,"foodalledible") ?
19:04.58sylvanaarXuerian: i used ultraedit - crappy regex support for the longest time so i switched to editpadpro
19:05.39kergothJoshBorke, http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1291
19:05.55CIA-1703rabbit * r18450 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: ClosetGnome_Banker: Update to use item links.
19:06.33sylvanaareclipse is nice if you dont mind the long loading times
19:07.11KarlThePaganwell I started with borland jbuilder
19:07.21KarlThePaganso... let's say eclipse is a godsend compared to that pig
19:07.53Xueriansylvanaar: Looks nice.
19:07.54vhaarrThere's no editor like Omnicore CodeGuide for java server programming.
19:08.21sylvanaarXuerian: yeah, its small - and the regex support is amazingly good
19:08.46XuerianAble to show output of command line programs somewhere in itself for code execution/debugging?
19:09.21KarlThePaganyes
19:09.38sylvanaarXuerian: one would think
19:10.00Xueriansylvanaar: One must try later then.
19:10.11kergothsomewhere around here i have a vim compiler file to parse the luac output for its error display
19:10.14pastamanceremacs for life
19:10.16kergothsomewhere...hmmm
19:10.24KarlThePaganoh ultraedit / sry thought that was eclipse talk
19:10.36Xuerian:P
19:10.54sylvanaarXuerian: it has alot of options for redirecting stdou
19:10.58SarozSecure shit is a pain in the ass, I wanna /wrist
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19:12.11Xueriansylvanaar: Definately will have to try it. UltraEdit is just too handy for editing everything I've found.
19:12.19DrDrei love ultraedit :o
19:12.26DrDreuse it for everything also
19:12.32Bapsthe only IDE I've ever liked is IDEA.  emacs for everything else.
19:13.02Saroz~devtools
19:13.08purlhmm... devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta
19:13.20KarlThePaganused idea... it's good
19:13.22sylvanaarXuerian: yeah, i have a unlimited upgrade liscense for UE
19:13.29pastamancerBaps: http://grid.13th-floor.org/test/GridFrame.lua (my svn account is currently borked)
19:13.33KarlThePaganhave a 3rd party plugin that's eclipse-only
19:14.05Bapspasta: that works.  danke.
19:14.52sylvanaarXuerian: that UE studio is sorta nice, i was going to upgrade but they wanted 150 bucks and they void my other liscense
19:16.13sylvanaari was trying Zeus, anyone else tried it?
19:16.40Xueriansylvanaar: heh, I like UE because it opens instantly yet handles the three rows of tabs I keep open all the time, I'd skip the extra stuff myself.
19:17.00Bapsin a more general ace2 question, I have an old addon that I'd ported from ace1 to ace2 and it doesn't present an option for standby.. is there something that's commonly forgotten that's likely to be the problem?
19:17.18Bapsit used to have standby in ace1
19:17.31Bapsor suspend.. whatever it was called
19:18.36ckknightBaps, you need AceDB
19:18.39sylvanaarXuerian: yeah - i hear ya - i used it from around 1998-2004
19:18.59Bapsoh?  yeah.. I wasn't using acedb for it at all.
19:19.13Bapsok.  I'll look into that when I get home.  thansk.
19:26.37bollerWill perfect raid be converted to work in TBC?
19:27.46nevcairieli think it was
19:27.49nevcairielbut not released yet
19:29.21bollerthannks nevcairiel
19:29.44bollerAlso, is there a suitable port of Discord Group Buttons? and/or can it work in TBC?
19:30.56SarozWhen SecureRaidGroupHeaderTemplate is parent, it hides all my children, wtf
19:32.11Somanihm... Question about aguf... is it possible to disable the Alt-Click-Menu in the Raidframes? (it sucks :D)
19:33.58kergothi have a solution, somani. stop alt clicking them
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19:36.39SarozWhats the point of SetAttribute("template", x) ?
19:38.09phyberkodewulf|afk: debugging is broken in School.  When I say disable debugging, that's what I want it to do ;)
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19:46.10Azurewrathanyone around playing a Rogue and using the German Client?
19:46.16nadasphyber: Fizzle\\Core.lua:252: unexpected symbol near `)'\n\n  --- :)
19:46.56ElkanoI used to, why?
19:47.08AzurewrathElkano: i need the German Skill name for Shadowstep :)
19:47.20Azurewrathoh brb, Huhuran pull
19:50.05phyberfixed.
19:50.18CIA-1703phyber * r18451 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
19:50.18CIA-17Fizzle:
19:50.19CIA-17- Fizzzzzzz.
19:50.28nadas:D
19:53.21NeeblerSchattenschritt
19:53.36Neeblerdamn that sounds dirty
19:53.45Teomyrindeed :D
19:53.56Neeblerbut that's "shadow step" according to babelfish.altavista.com
19:55.05Elkanois shadowstep a skill or talent?
19:56.15Teomyrit's the new 41 talent of the subtlety tree
19:56.36CIA-1703ckknight * r18452 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: .Tablet-2.0 - now uses MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED
19:56.50Azurewrathback :)
19:56.54Teomyrwb
19:57.18AzurewrathSchattenschritt.. ok then.. Babble-Spell-2.2 deDE finished for now :)
19:57.38Elkanothen it's "Mantel der Schatten" I think
19:57.50Teomyrthat's a different talent
19:58.11Azurewrath"Mantel der Schatten" is Cloak of Shadows
19:58.18Elkano-> http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/underdev/burningcrusade/rogue/talents.html
19:58.27Azurewrathbtw.. why is ["Solid Sharpening Stone"] = true, in Babble-Spell? ;)
19:58.41AzurewrathElkano: those are outdated, that's why i had to ask for Shadowstep :)
19:58.44Teomyri'd have a look at it, but unfortunately i don't have my rogue on the ptr
19:58.48Elkanoah :)
19:58.55JoshBorkeisn't it considered a spell sense you don't have to know blacksmithing to use it?
19:59.08Azurewrathmhm, possible
19:59.23JoshBorkesmarty pants :-P
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20:00.35CIA-1703duglum * r18453 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: deDE finished for now.
20:01.01JensBah. TBC server being shut down.
20:01.06JensAnd I was about to fix mods.
20:01.12nevcairielwhy shutdown?
20:01.14nevcairielmaybe patch?
20:01.22Sarozdunno
20:01.24Sarozit's down
20:01.25pastamancerSaroz: just steal code from GridLayout :p
20:01.27Sarozand SecureRaidGroupHeaderTemplate is a mofo bitch
20:03.31SarozHow do you add units to a header?
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20:04.58Amadeohah, a level 70 Shaman soloed the Baron within 45 minutes
20:05.04Amadeoer, Paladin..not Shaman
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20:05.14Teomyrlol
20:05.16JensNot bad.
20:05.43CIA-1703ckknight * r18454 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua:
20:05.43CIA-17Cartographer-Notes -
20:05.43CIA-17removed :SetNote
20:05.43CIA-17renamed :SetCustomNote to :SetNote
20:07.08ckknightNickenyfiken, ^--- probably should pay attention to that change
20:08.05nevcairielhttp://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1590508&postId=15803559&sid=1#0
20:08.10nevcairielbeta patch day!
20:08.11pastamancerSaroz: you use nameList or groupFilter
20:08.12CIA-1703ckknight * r18455 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua:
20:08.13CIA-17Cartographer_Mining - now uses :SetNote instead of :SetCustomNote
20:08.13CIA-17Should pick up ore when mined.
20:08.26SP|Sorrenckknight: AmmoFu explodes on the beta servers when I first log in
20:08.38ckknightSP|Sorren, it shouldn't
20:08.42SP|Sorrenget a couple hundred errors ;p
20:08.42ckknightwhat's the error?
20:08.45SP|Sorrener damn
20:08.46ckknightfirst error.
20:08.53SP|Sorrensomething about itemlink ;o
20:09.01SP|Sorrenserver went down and i forgot to copy and paste again :/
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20:09.31SP|Sorrenill tell you in 5 blizzard hours.
20:09.35Sarozhrrrm, wait, I think I got it... You assign SetAttribute("template", "foo")  and in OnLoad for foo you create 1 unit frame, because template is the template used to create units in the raid header
20:10.29pastamancerSaroz: yup
20:10.59CIA-1703ckknight * r18456 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - now uses :SetNote instead of :SetCustomNote
20:11.10Sarozpastamancer, you only use groupFilter?
20:11.18pastamancerSaroz: yes
20:11.24Sarozmkay,think I got it
20:11.27Sarozgive beta server now
20:11.38KirkburnArgh, /files is messed up again :(
20:12.14ElkanoKirkburn, iirc the change was done because of a DoS attack
20:14.23ckknightwhat else uses Cartographer-Notes to make notes?
20:14.23CIA-1703ckknight * r18457 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/MapNotes.lua:
20:14.23CIA-17FuBar_TrainerFu:
20:14.23CIA-17- Now uses the updated API of Cartographer-Notes' :SetNote
20:14.51ElkanoSchool, TrainerFu, ...
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20:15.16Mahirohi
20:15.20otravihello
20:15.22ElkanoInstanceNotes
20:16.09ckknightInstanceNotes is fine cause it doesn't use the API
20:16.13ckknightlet's look at School...
20:16.48Elkanowell, but he started School-2.0 as a lib so maybe he's going to change things
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20:18.41ckknightI'm changing it to the new API, he can go from there.
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20:19.38CIA-1703ckknight * r18458 10School/Modules/Notes.lua: School-Notes - updated to the new Cartographer-Notes :SetNote API
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20:21.57Nickenyfikenoh
20:22.06Nickenyfikenckknight: whats changed with the api?
20:22.18ckknight:SetNote was removed, :SetCustomNote was renamed to :SetNote
20:22.20ckknightbasically.
20:22.37TheKarnhow do i define a frame's OnDragStart function without using XML?
20:22.55ckknight:SetScript("OnDragStart", function(this, mousebutton) ... end)
20:22.57Nickenyfikenckknight: ah ok
20:23.03TheKarnty ckknight
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20:26.14otravi"The goal of Yueliang is to implement Lua 5 in Lua 5."
20:26.36nevcairielwhat?
20:26.36ckknightcool.
20:26.42ckknightlike PyPy
20:26.44pastamancersounds like a good goal
20:26.47ckknighta language implemented within itself.
20:26.49otravihttp://yueliang.luaforge.net/
20:26.53ckknightC is done that way, for example.
20:27.08nevcairielisnt it just stupid for a language like lua ? :D
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20:29.12ckknightwell, when's the patch coming?
20:29.21ckknightI want to get it before leaving for school
20:29.21Elkanonext week
20:29.28ckknightElkano, beta patch.
20:29.42KirkburnSoon I hope
20:29.42nevcairielwell
20:29.45nevcairielservers are down
20:29.45KirkburnVeyr very soon
20:29.50KirkburnLike today?
20:29.52nevcairielso dunno
20:29.56ckknightobviously, kirkburn
20:29.59nevcairielyeah they are patching right now
20:30.00Kirkburn=)
20:30.01ckknightservers are down for "5 hours"
20:30.04nevcairieldunno when its ready for download
20:30.09ckknightI want to download asap
20:30.12KirkburnWait, really?
20:30.15Prophyany good simple combat log mods?  has eavesdropped stop development?
20:30.17SP|Sorrenyes
20:30.21SP|Sorrenmaintenance and patch today :(
20:30.31ckknightotherwise someone's going to have to host it so I can download from school
20:30.31SP|Sorrenwhen the patch will be available to dl though is anybodies guess ;p
20:30.45KirkburnSP|Sorren, how can anyone be sad at getting a patch! :)
20:31.01SP|Sorreni am sad that its going to take 5 blizzard hours :p
20:31.23SP|Sorrenckknight: it'll probably be up on the SP forums if you miss it
20:31.33ckknightSP forums?
20:31.42SP|Sorrenwww.sock-puppets.com
20:31.52KirkburnThis patch will have lots of instance changes, that's all I know
20:31.54SP|Sorrenour gm throws it up there once he gets it ;o
20:32.10KirkburnWhat time PST is it?
20:32.16ckknightah, okay.
20:32.22ckknightKirkburn, 12:30 now.
20:32.23nymbia12:30
20:32.35ckknight~blame nymbia
20:32.50purlACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
20:32.50KirkburnHmm, 1am finish for me :/
20:32.50nymbia:(
20:32.53nevcairielhttp://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=381129
20:32.54ckknightman, purl's slow
20:32.55nevcairiellists some of the changes.
20:34.02KirkburnYup, that's the only post we've had about it afaik (Tigole, I think that was)
20:35.21Mikmahttp://rougebob.com/priest/
20:36.46KirkburnManaloom should be in this patch
20:37.14KirkburnAnd I think it's pretty likely Shadowmoon is in it, Tigole has been mentioning it in other posts
20:37.21Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5552.jpg
20:38.42Kirkburnwassat?
20:39.31nevcairielMikma: whats that?
20:40.30Mikmanevcairiel: trinity
20:40.30nevcairielhe made some efforts for nice looking options
20:40.30KirkburnXuerian, ?
20:40.30XuerianIndeed o.0
20:40.30XuerianKirkburn: I don't play anymore. I just log in to test xloot, occasionally :P
20:40.31SP|SorrenMikma: is that mod to trinity? or the next version?
20:40.37SP|Sorreni want circular buttons!
20:40.38Kirkburnlol
20:40.46KirkburnXuerian, play, dammit!
20:40.51KirkburnGot to 70?
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20:41.10XuerianKirkburn: Wasn't going to spend weeks downloading the patches.
20:41.23Kirkburnuseless
20:41.25Kirkburn:P
20:41.34XuerianKirkburn: </3
20:41.41Kirkburn^^
20:42.05Xuerian"[15:41] Unknown command: WRISTS" ... damn irc.
20:42.15XuerianCan't even emo right.
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20:42.54ckknight~wrists
20:42.59purlRemember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg
20:43.22ag`"oh my god! It's disgruntled postalworkers!"
20:43.46nevcairielag`: fix the bug when someone joins the party in combat please :(
20:45.10ag`nevcairiel: what bug
20:45.21KarlThePaganah yea I've seen that too
20:45.23nevcairielyou cant click the new frame
20:45.29nevcairielif someone joins mid-fight
20:45.31ag`aha
20:45.33KarlThePaganI think it's to do with the frame width
20:45.41nevcairieland the highlight is only small in the middle
20:45.41KarlThePaganyou can't resize in combat so yea...
20:45.45KarlThePaganit's zero-width
20:46.02KarlThePaganseen that... takes a reloadui to fix
20:46.06nevcairielyea
20:46.17ag`It's not hard to fix
20:46.22KarlThePagancool
20:46.26nevcairieleasy to reproduce, just let someone join your party in combat :)
20:46.28ag`Probably won't be able to do today though
20:46.41ag`my harddrive died
20:46.48KarlThePaganQQ
20:46.51ag`I fried it myself
20:46.51KarlThePaganah well
20:47.00nevcairielhow did you do that?
20:47.15Mikma230v in it?
20:47.31XuerianWell, first you take two wires...
20:47.54ag`I touched something metal on the floppy drive while it was running (had connected the floppy drive hanging out the side)
20:48.06KarlThePaganbzzzzt
20:48.07ag`so it shut down
20:48.09nevcairieloo
20:48.18ag`and when I turned it on again the drive+floppy was dead
20:48.21KarlThePaganbye bye capacitor
20:48.25ag`yeah
20:48.33ag`funny how nothing happened to me
20:48.39KarlThePaganif you can find the componant that fried ... yea
20:48.41ag`or the rest of the system
20:48.50ag`anyway I am getting a replacement for free
20:49.22ag`there's like a bazillion years of guarantee on my harddisk
20:49.56KarlThePagancool
20:50.04KarlThePagan... wtb beta patch already!
20:50.34ckknightagreed.
20:50.41ckknightI hope it's not ginormous.
20:50.45vhaarrAre we getting patched today?
20:50.51vhaarrBeta, that is.
20:51.22ckknightyea
20:51.26vhaarrsweet
20:51.49vhaarrckknight: Any chance to get Tablet's AddLine to support arbitrary frames?
20:52.03vhaarrOr something like AddFrame
20:52.18ckknightsorry, I really, really doubt that.
20:52.26vhaarrfigured as much.
20:52.35vhaarrJust wanted to make sure.
20:52.59ckknightI do want to make it so that FuBarPlugin-2.0 will allow you to inherit from a template
20:53.03ckknighti.e. secure templates
20:53.14vhaarrIt would have to be defined in XML?
20:53.21Mikmai'm growing a bad attitude against trinity for some reason xD
20:53.32ckknightno, vhaarr
20:53.44vhaarrckknight: I thought templates could only be created in XML.
20:53.46ckknightwell, if you make your own template, yes.
20:53.51vhaarrright
20:53.55ckknightbut I was saying if you wanted to inherit from a secure template.
20:54.07vhaarrI realise it would only be optional.
20:54.26XuerianMikma: Feed the jealousy....
20:54.40MikmaXuerian: jealousy?
20:55.00Xuerian<Horror movie low mystery voice>Feeeeeed it....
20:55.12otravifat guy dancing at the stage here
20:55.14otravisexeh
20:55.19Mikmai feeeeeed it
20:55.21XuerianEEP
20:55.28otravihaha
20:55.29Xuerian<squeaks> bastard!
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20:55.38SP|Sorrenwow, a pineapple.
20:55.38Xuerianmedic >.<<
20:55.50Prophyis Dreamchat same as Prat?
20:55.54XuerianNu
20:56.30Mikmadreamchat is better.
20:56.41Mikmabut AKX AKX AKX AKX AKX AKX should code it
20:56.44Mikmaright AKX ?
20:56.50AKXWhat?
20:57.02Neeblerprat is the ultimate
20:57.10ckknightblah, well, I have school
20:57.16XuerianHave fun, ck :p
20:57.28ckknightwhen someone downloads the patch, I'll need to steal it from you ;-)
20:57.29Prophyprat seems to take alot of resources these days
20:57.39Prophythink i'm gonna use an older version of prat
20:57.53XuerianModular idChat2 ftw
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20:58.11Prophysame with Xloot..better to use older version
20:58.25XuerianI do need to make a lite version of XLoot...
20:58.34JensModular Prat ftw.
20:58.44vhaarrphyber: Fizzle is foobar.
20:58.53nadasno it's not
20:59.15nadas:)
20:59.29evlhaste: uphating oUF for TBC?
20:59.31vhaarrphyber: I take it all back, some random person claims it works perfectly.
20:59.34vhaarrphyber: Nevermind.
20:59.41nadashehe
21:00.15Mikmaprat is bloat
21:00.19Mikmadreamchat is nice
21:00.23MikmaAKX should code it more tho
21:00.57NeeblerI use nearly every feature of prat, so IMO it's not bloat
21:01.35phybervhaarr: it was borked, then i fixed it.
21:01.46SarozCalling prat bloat is a bold statement
21:01.54phybertrying to get a tablet to work, but tablet seems to really suck when you try to use it outside fubar.
21:02.03vhaarrphyber: It's still borked, I updated 6 minutes ago.
21:02.11phyberworking for me.
21:02.16phyberwhat's broken about it?
21:02.29vhaarrIt errors when I hover an item in my character frame.
21:02.40vhaarr[2006/11/30 21:58:31-2779-x1]: Fizzle\Core.lua:238: Tablet-2.0: Other parent not registered
21:02.49phyberthen you didn't update.
21:02.54phyberor you updated from some outdated mirror.
21:03.02phyberoph, ffs.
21:03.04phyberowejg]0vn 3q4tn
21:03.04nymbiai'm having some crazy problems with tablet at the moment too.
21:03.12vhaarrphyber: Guess I did update after all.
21:03.46phyberindeed.
21:04.03phybervhaarr: if you're good with tablet, see if you can make it show up ;)
21:04.05CIA-1703phyber * r18459 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
21:04.05CIA-17Fizzle:
21:04.05CIA-17- Tablet, grrr.
21:04.20vhaarrphyber: I would, but I'm working on something.
21:04.27phyberk
21:05.22phyberme too.  I'm about to drop out of my raid because i need to concentrate on it.
21:05.22phyberborked my xbox, now I have to build an EEPROM reader ;)
21:05.45otravievl: I will
21:07.12DrDrelol
21:07.19DrDrewhat did u do to it phyber:
21:07.33DrDreto screw eeprom?
21:08.06Kirkburnprat ftw
21:08.19phyberDrDre: no, screwed the HD
21:08.40Kaeltenok I just issued a dozen or so of the svn passes again, email teh group if you need a new pass
21:08.47phyberDrDre: so, I need the eeprom contents to find out the HDD Key for the new HD, so I can plug it into linux and lock it so that the XBOX accepts it.
21:10.07DrDreoh
21:10.13enno_How far along is DreamChat?
21:10.20DrDrehow the hell did u screw up your hdd lol
21:12.48CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r18460 10FuBar_TrainerFu/FuBar_TrainerFu.toc: FuBar_TrainerFu: Updated TOC
21:13.23phyberDrDre: grounding issues with hotswapping ;)
21:13.24XuerianStatic surge from touching something ungrounded, afaik
21:13.32DrDrelol i never hotswap >_>
21:13.32XuerianXD
21:13.56CIA-1703pastamancer * r18461 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridRange.lua):
21:13.56CIA-17Grid:
21:13.56CIA-17- GridRange: fixed a debug statement that was trying to coerce a potentially nil value into a number.
21:13.56CIA-17- GridFrame: the indicator list is now part of the frameClass.
21:14.26DrDreeven tho lately ive had this lame prob of FRAG'ing alot where i have to shake it to get it to boot
21:14.31Icerothwhat's this "Grid\GridStatusAuras.lua:300: bad argument #1 to `strlower' (string expected, got nil)" i get sometimes?
21:15.34AmadeoWho plays a Priest in here?
21:15.42vhaarrLots.
21:15.54KarlThePaganwho doesn't?
21:15.57Amadeohaha
21:16.02otraviah, they ask in Swedish
21:16.10otraviI reply in norwegian, and then they switch to english
21:16.12AmadeoHow much +healing does Renew take advantage of?
21:16.16Amadeoas far as percentage
21:16.17vhaarr100%
21:16.18JoshBorkei think 100%
21:16.21KarlThePagan100%
21:16.22Amadeowow, really?
21:16.25KarlThePaganyes
21:16.25vhaarrDivided on each tick.
21:16.26vhaarrYes.
21:16.29KarlThePagan5 ticks == 100%
21:16.30Amadeointeresting
21:17.17KarlThePaganthe dot/hot mechanics are still debated tho I'm fairly certain the 1.12 values have been well observed
21:17.36vhaarrNot only observed but confirmed.
21:17.53KarlThePagana whole new game in 2.0 tho :P
21:17.54vhaarrSadly, Blizzards forums suck donkeyballs, so I won't give you a reference.
21:18.00AmadeoWith HoT stacking now, that's really powerful
21:18.13KarlThePaganplus talents finally apply to +healing too
21:19.01KarlThePaganI think I'm going to try to make a SpellTheoryLib
21:19.41KarlThePagangot lots of work today tho
21:24.17Antiarc<PROTECTED>
21:24.18AntiarcWoot!
21:24.33AntiarcYes, I'm an hour late >_>
21:24.34KarlThePaganpatch up for dl?
21:24.37AntiarcNo idea
21:24.43KarlThePaganwasn't last I checked
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21:25.44KarlThePaganlunch is over so i shouldn't log unless the patch is actuallyup
21:27.54Frittianyone know of a 2.0 addon that assigns keybindings to spells?
21:27.57otravihmm, I need to make my screen pulse on ready checks
21:28.00otravialways miss them :D
21:28.40KarlThePaganyay for 2.0's sound when backgrounded ;)
21:28.42CIA-1703lordrhys 07TBC * r18462 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (FactionItemsFu.lua Readme.txt): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: updated internal version
21:28.54KarlThePaganFritti SpellBinder?
21:30.22Frittidoh. missed that. thanks KarlThePagan!
21:30.39KarlThePagannp
21:30.47KarlThePagandescriptions on the file list are down :(
21:30.51KarlThePagani just happened to remember it
21:30.59FrittiI was searching wowi
21:31.02KarlThePaganah
21:31.06KarlThePaganwowace.com/files/
21:31.11KarlThePaganusually has descriptions
21:31.19Frittiand thinking that I had to put a gui to gellos clickbinder, seems nymbia made somethign that fit my needs :)
21:31.31KarlThePagancool
21:31.53nymbia:)
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21:33.18Frittiyay, beta patch
21:33.25ckknighthey all
21:33.37Icerothany druid changes?)
21:33.47nymbiahey ck
21:33.51ckknighthow big's the patch?
21:34.25Frittioh hrm doh, not patch, prob only maintenance :(
21:34.31FrittiI'm not really awake today :(
21:34.32Frittib
21:34.39KarlThePaganbah
21:34.44KarlThePagani almost logged in at work again :P
21:34.50KarlThePaganu get me in trouble mang
21:34.53KarlThePagan;)
21:35.07Frittisorry to get your hopes up
21:35.21ckknightFritti, there's a patch.
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21:35.26ckknightafaik
21:35.40KarlThePagananyone checked? downloading it yet?
21:35.51ckknightno, not available yet, it seems
21:35.58KarlThePaganmreh
21:36.04KarlThePagani got a raid tonight too :P
21:36.14TainNo I just tried to log in and got nothing.  Wouldn't let me actually get past server select though.
21:36.27ckknighthttp://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1590508&postId=15803559&sid=1
21:36.29Frittickknight: ah, cool. I assumed there was one because I couldn't get in, then I double checked my assumptions and assumed it was regular maint.
21:36.33ckknightFritti, ^--
21:36.40FrittiI assume too much
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21:38.35ckknightSlouken fixed alt-casting!
21:38.36ckknightyays!
21:38.43KarlThePagan<3
21:38.51ckknightalt-shift-5 will now finally be alt-(shift-5) instead of alt-shift-(5)
21:39.21KarlThePaganhells yea
21:39.30KarlThePaganlooks like it will work better than it did in 1.12
21:39.37ckknightnow to post showers of praise
21:42.00CIA-1703ammo * r18463 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: touch for zip with externals
21:42.29ckknightwell, looks like my prepaid time is up for WoW
21:42.47ckknightI can still play TBC, though
21:42.59ckknightso the only thing I've really lost is the ability to post to forums.
21:44.23KarlThePaganin fact... alt-shift-5 will be alt-(shift-(5))
21:45.27Icerothhmm, nice, i read the topic and it sounded really cumbersome on how slouken said it would have to be done
21:46.00ckknightKarlThePagan, well, I meant from a self-cast POV
21:46.14CIA-1703tazmanyak * r18464 10Automaton/modules/ (AutoGossip/Locale-frFR.lua AutoTrade.lua):
21:46.14CIA-17Automaton:
21:46.14CIA-17<PROTECTED>
21:46.14CIA-17<PROTECTED>
21:46.44ckknightalt-shift-5 will turn into alt-shift-5, selfcast-shift-5, alt-5, selfcast-5
21:46.47ckknightbasically.
21:50.54Mikmackknight: ability post, who needs that xD
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21:51.39ckknightMikma, well, I was able to voice my opinion on the alt-cast issue which in my delusional mind means that I was a direct catalyst for getting it fixed
21:52.04Mikmackknight: well then, prepaid in.
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21:54.51nymbiawtf...
21:55.15SP|Sorren?
21:57.14nymbiaso.. i'm converting manufac to use stitch.  if i do local stitch = AceLibrary("Stitch-1.0") at the top of the file, manufac's OnInitialize does not run.  but there's no errors whatsoever, and to fix it, all i have to do is delay setting the local to the library until during the OnInit.
21:59.18pastamancernymbia: is stitch being loaded before the rest of your addon?
21:59.57nymbiapastamancer: my local copy is a standalone and manufac has it set as an optdep, so yes.
22:00.18vhaarrckknight: Much like I got the Ogres in Zangarmarsh to say "You no take mushroom!" when doing the quest to steal their mushroom crates by filing a Suggestion report.
22:00.34vhaarras a pun to the "You no take candle!" kobolds :P
22:00.39nevcairielhaha
22:00.44ckknightlol, vhaarr
22:00.52nevcairieli love when they say that
22:00.57nevcairieli really laughed the first time
22:00.57ckknightyea, me too
22:01.16vhaarrI hope it was my report that got them to implement it - they started saying it the patch after I suggested it :P
22:01.18nymbiawait a sec.. you might be on to something, pastamancer.. warmup shows the lib directly AFTER the addon in the load order.
22:01.25Mikmavhaarr: wtf? You no take mushroom? :D
22:01.30vhaarrMikma: yeah :P
22:01.57vhaarrMikma: There's a quest where you have to pick up crates of mushrooms from an Ogre base, and when you pick them up, an Ogre spawns and attacks you.
22:02.00nevcairielnymbia: if its not loaded before, AceLibrary should error
22:02.06vhaarrMikma: Previous to my suggestion, they said nothing when they spawned.
22:02.13vhaarrMikma: Now they say "You no take mushroom!"
22:02.15Mikmavhaarr: where and which side? alliance? horde?
22:02.16vhaarr:P
22:02.19Xuerianlol
22:02.24vhaarrMikma: eh?
22:02.30vhaarrMikma: They're ogres.
22:02.30nevcairielzangamarsh, i think the quest is both sides
22:02.33vhaarryes
22:02.34nevcairielwell, alliance anyway
22:02.35GrineI LOVE YUO vhaarr!!!!!!!!
22:02.39vhaarrGrine :D
22:02.41Mikmawhere is that quest then
22:02.48Grinebest suggestion evor imo :P
22:02.52vhaarrit's a long quest line
22:02.55nevcairielits a followup methings
22:03.01nevcairiel-g+k
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22:03.08Mikmawhere?
22:03.14vhaarrzangarmarsh :P
22:03.20Mikmaok then
22:03.28nevcairiellook for the mushroom house in zangamarsh, where the flypoint is
22:03.29nevcairiel:D
22:03.37Mikmahehee
22:03.41Mikmalooking forward to :D
22:03.54nymbiagod damn, that's it right there..  i forgot to rename the optdep in the addon after i renamed the library.  pastamancer: thanks a lot.  nevcairiel: i sure as hell wish it had errored :(
22:04.14nevcairielblame acelibrary
22:04.15nevcairiel:)
22:05.19nymbiayup ;)
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22:12.57nymbianow for the minor issue of getting svn access back.. has kael said what he wants people to do for that?
22:13.07pastamanceryes
22:14.49nymbia?
22:15.06ckknightemail him or something.
22:16.19ag`something happened with the svn?
22:16.32Kaeltenthe server had some data loss problems yesterday
22:16.44nymbiaall the passwords set after oct 1 went kaboom
22:16.48Kaeltenyep
22:17.23ag`phew
22:17.27Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3190.0
22:17.27ag`my pass is still intact
22:18.02Kaeltenif someone needs a pass mail the email in that post and I'll email them a new pass :)
22:19.20TheKarnis ther any way to access a mixin's table? for instance i want to get hold of the text on a candybar, i can see that its stored in CandyBar.var.handlers[barName].text but i cant access because CandyBar is local to that file :(
22:20.22nymbiaif there's not a Get function, then no.
22:20.49JensGawd... I need to get rid of ctra.
22:21.08nymbiado it!
22:21.26JensI just haven't had the motivation to break my interface lately.
22:21.37ckknightTheKarn, request the API :-P
22:21.42ckknightor write it yourself and make a patch
22:22.01XuerianJens: Break it? oRA2 & Grid have been making it better for months.
22:22.08Jenshttp://jensrex.net/img/newinterface.jpg <-- point and laugh
22:22.32Kaeltengeez jens
22:22.32JensI mean... get used to something different, and twiddle with layout.
22:22.35Kaeltenthats a lot of frames
22:22.36Kaeltenlol
22:22.45JensIt works for me :D
22:22.58Jens(I don't know why fishing is on my heal action bar)
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22:23.06nymbialol
22:23.09XuerianJens: Grid is your savior.
22:23.23vid`so all the mods are breaking tues right?
22:23.26JensSo much going on with mods, it's hard to keep track of everything new.
22:23.29vid`when they do the 2.0 changeover
22:23.32Neriakheyaz
22:23.35XuerianGrriiiiiiddd
22:23.44ckknightvid`, you'll have to update, if that's what you mean.
22:23.45vhaarrvid`: Who told you that?
22:23.47nymbiavid`: all the ones that dont get fixed/dont have tbc versions, yes.
22:23.51Xuerianvid`: Most mods developed here should keep on ticking
22:23.52vhaarrvid`: Read the topic.
22:23.54vid`yea thats what i mean :)
22:23.56TheKarnhttp://karn.co.uk/karn_ace2_ui.jpg
22:24.03vid`stuff like decursive/detox etc
22:24.10nymbiayes, them's toast.
22:24.11vhaarrThose will break, yes.
22:24.23vid`not that i really play wow anymore
22:24.24TheKarni ahvent even bothered putting detox into my ui
22:24.27ckknightclasstime soon
22:24.28JensTheKarn: I lack to stack stuff at the bottom. To have everything in one place.
22:24.30vid`until BC comes out that is
22:24.33ckknightcya all later
22:24.37Xuerianhttp://wowace.com/wiki/Grid
22:24.39XuerianCya Ck
22:24.43TheKarnoh
22:24.46TheKarnand you were all wrong
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22:25.02TheKarnincoming paste, hope no1 minds
22:25.02TheKarnfunction ManualTimers:GetBarText(barName)
22:25.04TheKarnlocal CandyBar = AceLibrary:GetInstance("CandyBar-2.0") or nil
22:25.06TheKarnif (CandyBar.var.handlers[barName]) then
22:25.08TheKarnreturn CandyBar.var.handlers[barName].text
22:25.10TheKarnelse
22:25.12TheKarnreturn false
22:25.14TheKarnend
22:25.16vhaarrTheKarn: Everyone minds, use pastey.
22:25.18nevcairieluse pastey.
22:25.28TheKarnmeh it was only 8 lines
22:25.32otraviTheKarn: I think you should use www.pastey.com
22:25.35vhaarrIf I had operator status, you'd be kicked already.
22:25.44otraviEven if it's only 8 fucking lines
22:25.48bindibleh
22:25.49otravieven if it's two lines, use the pastebin
22:25.49nevcairielif you had operator .. oh my :D
22:25.55vhaarr:D
22:25.57bindiplease fix bigwigs onyxia DB warning :
22:25.58bindi:p
22:26.01nymbiaTheKarn: then it wasn't local at all ;)
22:26.06vhaarrbindi: What's wrong with it?
22:26.08Azurewrathmhm.. did ckk say anything about the latest Cartographer revision being 2.0 ony? Getting some weird errors
22:26.14bindiit doesn't catch your eyes
22:26.16TheKarnnymbia it is defined locally
22:26.16Azurewrath*only
22:26.28bindi^^
22:26.29TheKarnlook in candybar-2.0.lua
22:26.34bindishould be pink and blinking! :D
22:26.56XuerianAnd Jens: It looks like you have loot modes on your actionbar. Having trouble getting the unit right-click menu on your portrait? :p
22:27.08nymbiaAzurewrath: he's pretty much just ignoring 1.x at the moment, so weird errors are prone to happen.  lemme try and see, though.
22:27.22JensXuerian: Nah, I just like being able to switch quickly.
22:27.27XuerianAzurewrath: ck has stopped supporting 1.x
22:27.32Azurewrathi know :)
22:27.55XuerianAzurewrath: I can say things everyone knows. I have my Capn' Obvious badge on at all times.
22:28.00Xuerian... You just can't see it.
22:28.10Azurewrathgimme a sec, will test the revision in tbc.. if it works i will just revert my 1.12 Cartographer.. 2.0 will come in a week anyway :)
22:28.48JensI think I'll wait with this mod snafu until patch hits. No point in reworking mods now.
22:29.17Azurewrathmhm ok.. i can't test.. beta realms down.
22:29.28Xuerianevery time a raider uses ctra, kittens get killed.
22:29.29JensI need to find offending mod that gives me 10 sec lag hell every 10-15 mins or so.
22:32.20Neeblergarbage collection?
22:32.28JensI don't think so.
22:33.10JensIt's like... insane lag. FPS <1 for 10-15 secs.
22:33.12XuerianLuaProfile is your friend
22:33.19Xuerians/ile/iler/
22:33.36JensSounds handy.
22:33.58XuerianThat or TekSupport
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22:34.47Kaeltenmore passwords sent out
22:34.50Kaelten:)
22:35.43Icerothheh, been so tempting, could easily publish icehud in it's current state and get the key but i think i rather experience tbc as complete, finished for the first time
22:36.52AmadeoI wish I could figure out why Opera is so quirky with page loading for me
22:38.56TheKarnheh ... ironic that purl parsed "s/ile/iler" ;)
22:39.49TheKarnah but purl is a bot
22:39.53TheKarnthat would make more sense
22:40.49Tainpurl rules
22:40.53purlmethinks rules is Ktron makes the rules!
22:41.02TainI doubt it.
22:42.04CIA-1703nymbia * r18465 10PeriodicTable-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
22:42.04CIA-17PeriodicTable-2.0:
22:42.04CIA-17- Added InstanceLoot module
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22:44.50yacoobhelp!
22:46.02SP|Sorren?
22:46.12yacoobreality is stomping on me :(
22:46.20SP|Sorrentake a nap
22:46.41SP|Sorrenor hit the booze
22:46.51yacoobI'll be taking 3 days off, it's just till sunday... *crawl*crawl*
22:46.55CIA-1703nymbia * r18466 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua:
22:46.55CIA-17Stitch-1.0:
22:46.55CIA-17- Fixed data storage, init issues
22:47.06SP|Sorreni took 7 months off ;O
22:47.16SP|Sorrenalmost flunked out :(
22:48.51yacooboff, or were you fired? :)
22:49.26KarlThePagananyone downloading TBC beta patch yet?
22:50.26JensI may have 0wned myself.
22:50.39JensCan't find bloody exam papers I need to show teacher tomorrow.
22:50.52CIA-1703nymbia * r18467 10Manufac/ (. Manufac-Defaults.lua Manufac.lua Manufac.toc):
22:50.52CIA-17Manufac:
22:50.52CIA-17- Now uses Stitch.
22:50.52CIA-17- NOTE: this version -will- have bugs. Use at own risk. Need specific testing with smelting window.
22:51.12yacoobyou'd need to perform seppuku
22:51.25SP|Sorrenpatch is downloadable now
22:51.37KarlThePaganty sorren
22:51.47SP|SorrenI agree with yacoob that it is indeed seppuku time for Jens.
22:52.10KarlThePaganI would be honored to be your second Jens
22:52.19SP|Sorrenits a race between uTorrent and the blizzard downloader!
22:52.28JensI am *not* retaking this silly math exam.
22:52.39SP|SorrenuTorrent currently ahead at 69.9%, with Blizzard Downloader trailing behind at 768k and stuck
22:52.41SP|SorrenQQ
22:53.32Azurewrathi started utorrent when i noticed the Blizz Downloader is at 40% already.. ~480k currently
22:54.09SP|Sorrenand uTorrent finishes, blizzard downloader still at 768k :/
22:54.15SP|Sorreni guess ill seed for a while
22:54.17yacoobI'd interrogate the cat, Jens.
22:54.26JensI could do that.
22:54.41JensBut it would look weird, since I don't have a cat.
22:55.04KarlThePaganthe blizz downloader seems to have improved a tiny fraction
22:55.05vhaarrSP|Sorren: Link to the torrent?
22:55.10CIA-1703eraslin * r18468 10Bidder/Bidder.toc: Bidder: Removed an extra 's' character from Bidder.toc.
22:55.14SP|Sorrenvhaarr: i used the torrent extractor
22:55.16KarlThePaganniftier UI
22:55.20SP|Sorreni suppose i could throw the torrent up though
22:55.21SP|Sorrensec
22:55.25vhaarrcool
22:55.34JensBlizzard downloader is pulling 450 kb/s... nice.
22:55.54SP|Sorrenblizzard downloader hates me :(
22:55.57KarlThePagancheck the Connection Info page - that's what I'm talkin about
22:56.29KarlThePaganpeers turn grey when they stop responding
22:56.45SP|Sorrenhttp://www.astraycat.net/WoW-2.0.2.6144-to-2.0.2.6178-enUS-downloader.torrent
22:57.06vhaarrSP|Sorren: Thanks.
22:58.27Elkanohow big is the patch?
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22:58.38vhaarr27 mb
23:02.01KarlThePaganmy blizzard download is at like 80%
23:02.07KarlThePaganand i'm in no hurry so I think I'll seed a while
23:02.28KarlThePagannot that I'm firewalled to shit...
23:02.45KarlThePagana little past shit, probably firewalled deep into the small intestine
23:03.32XuerianXD
23:03.42KarlThePaganthis one time I was in an irc channel... where one kid had net nanny or something stupid like that
23:03.51KarlThePaganand it was snooping on all of his TCP connections
23:04.02KarlThePaganso anytime anyone would swear in channel he'd get disconnected
23:04.08XuerianHahaha
23:05.45yacooba bit like cartman being zapped by vchip :)
23:05.45XuerianHaha, I think that sound clip was in one of the old T2 voicepacks I had
23:06.03CIA-1703xlevus * r18469 10NameTagToggle/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
23:06.03CIA-17NameTagToggle: initial commit
23:06.03CIA-17- An addon to automatically toggle name tags based on your location.
23:06.20yacoob"I want this feature out of me..." :)
23:07.49JensThis blows chuncks. I'm fucked.
23:08.27Xueriano_0
23:08.28SP|Sorren:(
23:08.55XuerianDo elaborate, young padawan.
23:09.09JensLast possible place it could be is the Box O' Shit I've got stored out in the shed, but I doubt it's there.
23:09.32SP|Sorrenif you're fucked if you don't find it, i'd look
23:09.55JensI will, but I can't do that right now. No light out in the shed.
23:10.26CIA-1703beerke * r18470 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua:
23:10.26CIA-17BigWigs_LoathebTactical :
23:10.26CIA-17- Optimized consumable strategy
23:13.03CIA-1703Tristan * r18471 10Cancellation/Cancellation.toc:
23:13.03CIA-17Cancellation:
23:13.03CIA-17- Added DeuceCommander as an OptionalDependency
23:13.16JensOh sweet Vishnu, here it is.
23:13.33JensStored in Bag O' Shit I had forgotten about in the kitchen.
23:13.53yacoobdrats, he found it
23:13.55JensAnd I found missing SATA cables and a DVD in there too.
23:13.57yacoobwe need to activate plan B
23:14.02yacoobooops, wrong window.
23:14.04yacoob8)
23:14.22CIA-1703Tristan * r18472 10T_RPP/T_RPP.toc:
23:14.22CIA-17T_RPP:
23:14.22CIA-17- Added DeuceCommander as an OptionalDependency
23:14.22CIA-1703Tristan * r18473 10T_Tracking/T_Tracking.toc:
23:14.22CIA-17T_Tracking:
23:14.23CIA-17- Added DeuceCommander as an OptionalDependency
23:14.32JensUh oh...
23:14.34CIA-1703xlevus * r18474 10NameTagToggle/:
23:14.34CIA-17NameTagToggle:
23:14.34CIA-17- Added Externals
23:15.30JensI can't win.
23:16.17KarlThePaganorly
23:19.17XuerianWhat were you looking for in the first place? This monologue has been been on the rather vague end of illustration.
23:21.00JensLooking for ass old exam papers from long ago, so I don't have to retake silly and uninteresting math exam.
23:21.35JensTrying to find ~9 year old piece of paper in my apartment is borderline impossible.
23:21.42JensI can't find mail I got last week.
23:29.44CIA-1703nymbia * r18475 10Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.toc:
23:29.44CIA-17Stitch-1.0:
23:29.45CIA-17- Touch for svn->wiki script
23:31.43nymbiathat's odd..
23:32.02vhaarrSP|Sorren: Have you tried launcing your beta client after the latest patch?
23:32.20vhaarrSP|Sorren: Mine crashes before the login dialog is presented.
23:33.31KirkburnNews on what's in the beta patch?
23:34.02KirkburnI've been playing Garry's Mod for most of 2nite :) Tis an excellent purchase
23:34.49SP|Sorrenvhaarr: i have not.
23:34.56SP|Sorrenill try n ow
23:36.21SP|Sorrenit seems to work for me
23:36.26SP|Sorrenstill just the pve server up ;o
23:36.28SP|Sorrener
23:36.30SP|Sorrentest pve
23:36.37vhaarrCrashes every time here.
23:37.11SP|Sorrencrashes to desktop?
23:37.15Kirkburn|VistaPatch notes: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=560370&sid=1
23:37.41SP|Sorrenhot, looks like they fixed feign death
23:37.55KirkburnYay for Shadowmoon Valley :)
23:49.16vhaarrSP|Sorren: Errr .. your torrent was a enUS patch, maybe there should be a enGB one that I should be using :P
23:49.32vhaarrWeird that they do not detect and stop the installation.
23:51.07CIA-1703kemayo * r18476 10SilverDragon/ (Core.lua Locals.enUS.lua SilverDragon.toc):
23:51.07CIA-17SilverDragon:
23:51.07CIA-17* Drycoded Cartographer integration.
23:51.07CIA-17* Incomplete: Better icon needed, hooks should be taken advantage of.
23:52.05Gngskwhat does silverdragon do?
23:52.10KemayoTracks rare mobs.
23:55.53vhaarrYay, I love it when drycode works without changes or bugs.
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23:56.18KemayoWow, I didn't even miss a comma somewhere?
23:56.21KemayoThat's a first...
23:56.28vhaarrerr
23:56.31vhaarrMy own drycode.
23:56.32vhaarr:P
23:56.38vhaarrI have yet to try SilverDragoin.
23:56.40vhaarr-i
23:57.21KemayoDamn you!
23:57.38vhaarr^^
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23:58.23*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
23:58.35ckknighthey all
23:58.43vhaarrevening
23:58.49ckknightpatch out yet?
23:58.54Nickenyfikenhi hi!
23:58.56vhaarryes
23:58.59Nickenyfikenpatch today?
23:59.05vhaarrBeta.
23:59.17Nickenyfikenah, something special they changed?
23:59.41ckknighthow big is it?
23:59.44vhaarrIsn't it always? It's beta.
23:59.46vhaarrckknight: 27mb
23:59.50ckknightcan someone host it so I can download?

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