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| 00:02.00 | Funkeh` | why would i be getting this error. AceAddon-2.0.lua:21 AceAddon-2.0 requires Ace00-2.0 when it already exists in the libs and toc? |
| 00:02.21 | kergoth | sounds like you have them in the wrong order |
| 00:02.45 | Funkeh` | what order should it be in? :P |
| 00:02.54 | Fwip | If I have a bunch of frames in an option window, is it any more expensive to anchor them to each other than to the main frame with an offset? (When it comes to moving them around) |
| 00:03.49 | noha^ | is there some addon like CooldownTimer or oCD that displays trinked cooldowns ? |
| 00:06.25 | Funkeh` | fixed it ripped off the ace2 toc, ty :P |
| 00:06.58 | kergoth | noha^, i'm sure ocd would if you put the trinkets on one of your actionbars, even one thats hidden |
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| 00:07.01 | kergoth | it scans the actionbars |
| 00:07.34 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:07.49 | Funkeh` | hey ck |
| 00:08.14 | noha^ | kergoth: thx, i will try this |
| 00:08.25 | ckknight | any new developments since I left? |
| 00:11.14 | noha^ | uh, i remember why i switched from oCD to CDT.... oCD has no Pot cd's :( |
| 00:11.17 | Fwip | If I have a bunch of frames in a window, does it cost any more to move them if they're all anchored in a chain (linked) than if they're attached to one frame? |
| 00:11.24 | Kirkburn | France declared war on Hawaii, ckknight |
| 00:11.45 | ckknight | ah, it was inevitable that one day that'd be the case |
| 00:11.47 | Kirkburn | They said "It's not fair zat zey get all ze sun, we want it!" |
| 00:11.50 | ckknight | but who would've thought a Tuesday? |
| 00:12.15 | Kirkburn | The weather man probably told them to do it |
| 00:12.22 | Kirkburn | Bet it was raining in Paris |
| 00:13.34 | ckknight | oh well |
| 00:13.39 | ckknight | America can take em down. |
| 00:14.11 | Kirkburn | Hah. Oh, there was Tigole post about the next beta push |
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| 00:14.25 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 00:14.26 | Kirkburn | (http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/beta.worldofwarcraft.com/1520314.htm) |
| 00:14.31 | ckknight | do we finally get a new beta patch? |
| 00:14.36 | Kirkburn | Sometime this week |
| 00:14.40 | ckknight | alright, good |
| 00:15.16 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r18312 10vChat/ (Libs/ vChat.toc): |
| 00:15.16 | CIA-17 | vChat: Libs: |
| 00:15.16 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:23.29 | ckknight | feels like lunchtime now |
| 00:25.42 | Fwip | I hate to ask again, but if I have a bunch of frames chained together, does it cost more to move the top anchor than if they're all anchored to one frame? |
| 00:32.47 | Fwip | I think I broke IRC >_> |
| 00:32.52 | CIA-17 | 03tristan * r18313 10Cancellation/ (Cancellation.toc Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 00:32.52 | CIA-17 | Cancellation: |
| 00:32.52 | CIA-17 | - Added Apply action to all buffs in category |
| 00:33.41 | CIA-17 | 03tristan * r18314 10T_RPP/ (Ashes.lua Grief.lua T_RPP.toc): |
| 00:33.41 | CIA-17 | T_RPP: |
| 00:33.41 | CIA-17 | - Including 2 sets of DKP values that possibly new guilds could have use for (Grief - HourRPP and Ashes - Zero Sum) |
| 00:33.55 | CIA-17 | 03tristan * r18315 10T_Tracking/T_Tracking.toc: |
| 00:33.55 | CIA-17 | T_Tracking: |
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| 00:34.04 | CIA-17 | 03tristan * r18316 10T_TrackingFu/T_TrackingFu.toc: |
| 00:34.04 | CIA-17 | T_TrackingFu: |
| 00:34.04 | CIA-17 | - Addon Title Adjusted |
| 00:34.32 | CIA-17 | 03tristan * r18317 10Tankalyze/ (Core.lua Tankalyze.toc): |
| 00:34.32 | CIA-17 | Tankalyze: |
| 00:34.32 | CIA-17 | - Addon Title Adjusted |
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| 00:40.25 | ckknight | Fwip, technically, yes, but you won't feel the effects until about a chain of 50 frames or so |
| 00:43.59 | alcaras | is there an item parsing library anywhere? |
| 00:44.00 | Kirkburn | Time for bed, and I shall leave you with this parting shot: "I was going to be a cardiologist, but I didn't have the heart!" |
| 00:44.09 | alcaras | trying to write a mod to display weighted values for items |
| 00:44.11 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r18318 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/ (SWStats2FuLocal-enUS.lua SWStatsFu.lua): FuBar_SWStats2Fu: Added auto-nuke of the swstats data on logout. Not heavily tested yet |
| 00:44.13 | alcaras | but parsing tooltips is pita |
| 00:44.22 | alcaras | esp. with sockets :-/ and figuring out if a socket bonus applies or not... |
| 00:49.14 | Tain | haha this new Mac vs PC ad wasn't that funny until the last 3 seconds, then it made me laugh outloud. http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/meantforwork_480x376.mov |
| 00:50.16 | Fwip | okay, thanks ckk |
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| 00:51.02 | Mimesis | hello ppl |
| 00:52.33 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: OMG brilliant idea |
| 00:52.59 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: do an auto nuke option after every reset and your golden |
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| 00:53.28 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: your not on irc ffs |
| 00:54.59 | Tain | I wanted to complain that you said your instead of you're, but I realized at least you didn't say ur. |
| 00:55.38 | Mimesis | anyeone willing to help me with a completely noob non wow 2.0 question |
| 00:55.50 | ckknight | lol, Funkeh` |
| 00:55.53 | ckknight | shoot, Mimesis |
| 00:56.08 | Mimesis | id like to know how to check if a spell is currently casting |
| 00:56.11 | ckknight | Tain, ur 2 judgemental. |
| 00:56.21 | Tain | I'm 2 legit 2 qwit. |
| 00:56.26 | ckknight | Mimesis, well, you could keep track of the events. |
| 00:56.39 | Mimesis | The context is a macro to cast flash of light if idle, and cancel flash of light if already casting it |
| 00:56.45 | Tain | I mostly keep it to myself. I cringe everytime I read something like that. It is my own personal hell. |
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| 00:58.04 | DrDre | y, itz not lik u hav 2 read it! |
| 00:58.08 | Tain | I blame nymbia. |
| 00:58.17 | nymbia | me too |
| 00:58.25 | nymbia | that bastard. |
| 00:58.25 | ckknight | Tain, I agree, I'm very much in favor of good grammar. |
| 00:59.22 | Tain | I swear this is true, I said something about it to someone and they said back, "y r u so mean?" |
| 00:59.40 | Tain | But not trying to be ironic. |
| 00:59.48 | ckknight | oh dear. |
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| 00:59.59 | nymbia | rofl |
| 01:00.08 | ckknight | hey sylvanaar |
| 01:00.22 | Tain | These are the times that try men's souls. |
| 01:01.34 | alcaras | is there an item parsing library anywhere? (e.g. to simplify parsing items and getting data as to what stats they have?) |
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| 01:02.51 | nymbia | alcaras: as in the tooltips? gratuity. |
| 01:03.17 | Mimesis | So to check if a spell is currently casting i would say, have to watch SPELLCAST_START, make a variable true, and then watch, SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTED, SPELLCAST_FAILED, in order to set the var false, and do my cast/cancel based on that boolean? |
| 01:04.14 | nymbia | Mimesis: i'm not sure what you're doing, but based on that sentence, it sounds like it'll break when 2.0 comes out in a couple weeks. |
| 01:04.22 | Mimesis | yes |
| 01:04.38 | Eternally777 | Mimesis, in fact, it'll break and be much easier to do once 2.0 comes out :) |
| 01:05.38 | nymbia | yup ;) |
| 01:05.39 | Mimesis | I am aware of that. But i also think that it will be easier to do with the macro system |
| 01:05.39 | Mimesis | I type slowly. |
| 01:05.39 | Mimesis | I'd just like to set it up for a friend who asked in the mean time. |
| 01:10.13 | ckknight | "BARNEY IS TO CHILDREN AS OSAMA BIN LADEN IS TO ISLAM" |
| 01:10.18 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 01:11.26 | kergoth | himrdqnot to mention, spellstatuslib does all of that for you for pre 2.0 |
| 01:11.35 | kergoth | er, s/himrdq/Mimesis: / |
| 01:11.44 | Mimesis | oh |
| 01:11.46 | Mimesis | hrm |
| 01:11.50 | Mimesis | ill look at that thanks |
| 01:12.10 | kergoth | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SpellStatus-1.0 |
| 01:12.10 | ckknight | how does himrdq turn into Mimesis? |
| 01:12.27 | kergoth | i'm not sure :P |
| 01:12.41 | kergoth | i think my fingers were mispositioned, and i attempted and failed a tab complete on it |
| 01:12.48 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:12.49 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:12.50 | Mimesis | Dunno, but any help, however directed to a mispelled person is welcome. |
| 01:13.31 | sylvanaar | i do that alot |
| 01:13.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:13.46 | Amadeo | Tain: Hello, I'm a Mac..and BUY a PC! |
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| 01:14.14 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:14.21 | Amadeo | http://www.apple.com/405/us/media/apple/getamac/salespitch_480x376.mov |
| 01:14.23 | ckknight | hey Amadeo |
| 01:14.25 | Amadeo | hiya |
| 01:15.01 | Mimesis | So any even more noobish question, do addons written entirely in lua need a filler xml file? |
| 01:15.02 | sylvanaar | dumb name |
| 01:15.16 | nymbia | Mimesis: nope :) |
| 01:15.21 | Mimesis | Thankyou. |
| 01:15.24 | alcaras | nymbia: where can i find Gratuity on the wiki? |
| 01:15.25 | sylvanaar | lol - crap |
| 01:15.37 | nymbia | alcaras: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/GratuityLib |
| 01:15.54 | alcaras | http://wiki.wowace.com/Gratuity_Embedded_Library |
| 01:15.58 | alcaras | was 404ing from google |
| 01:16.02 | alcaras | ah ok |
| 01:16.11 | alcaras | thanks much! |
| 01:16.14 | alcaras | will save me pain |
| 01:16.34 | alcaras | mm |
| 01:16.39 | alcaras | it is still pretty low levl |
| 01:16.45 | alcaras | doesn't parse out item info |
| 01:16.49 | alcaras | just makes a tooltip more accessible |
| 01:16.56 | alcaras | i still need to do the hard work of parsing items :p |
| 01:17.21 | alcaras | i want a lib where i feed it a tooltip |
| 01:17.29 | alcaras | and it returns an item object |
| 01:17.36 | alcaras | that i can go Item.Stats["Strength"] e.g. |
| 01:17.48 | CIA-17 | 03Darravis * r18319 10HealOrganizer/HealOrganizer.lua: |
| 01:17.48 | CIA-17 | HealOrganizer: |
| 01:17.48 | CIA-17 | -When a healer assigned to remain asks for their assignment, Heal Organizer tells them to heal the people in the remain field instead of just saying Remain. |
| 01:17.48 | CIA-17 | -You can now put main tanks in the remain field. i.e. %MT1% %MT2% |
| 01:18.43 | sylvanaar | he got fat |
| 01:18.48 | Mimesis | So how do i inclued SpellStatusLib in my addon. Im sure i have to reference it in my toc somehow, but im unsure what file to piont to. |
| 01:19.22 | ckknight | perhaps you should go over the Ace2 tutorials. |
| 01:19.36 | ckknight | WelcomeHome is a good one, it covers directory structure and toc layout |
| 01:19.39 | Mimesis | Yes thats a good idea. |
| 01:20.00 | sylvanaar | those sound like perfectly worded FAQ's |
| 01:20.04 | Mimesis | Will probably answer all my questions so i can stop spamming you guys. |
| 01:20.16 | ckknight | probably. |
| 01:20.19 | alcaras | so no lib to parse tooltips to extract item stuff into a nice object i can access? :p |
| 01:20.55 | alcaras | alternatively, anyone know how to parse the socket in a tooltip? |
| 01:20.59 | alcaras | not sure what the socket symbol is |
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| 01:21.42 | sylvanaar | im surprised someone hasnt made a little gem addon |
| 01:22.10 | ckknight | I hate that Mac guy |
| 01:22.13 | ckknight | what an uptight bitch |
| 01:22.18 | sylvanaar | i should camp the good names |
| 01:23.24 | sylvanaar | lol, yeah he old and fat now, which means i am too =( |
| 01:23.49 | ckknight | fatty fatty fat fat |
| 01:23.54 | ckknight | ooh, daddy's tubby little secret |
| 01:24.21 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r18320 10StitchLib/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua: |
| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | StitchLib: |
| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | - Removed the button to continue the queue -- that'll need to be handled by an addon. (stay tuned for StitchUI, coming soon) |
| 01:29.53 | CIA-17 | - Now fires AceEvent custom events when the queue needs to be continued or completes. |
| 01:29.55 | CIA-17 | 03pettigrow * r18321 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Plugins/RaidWarn.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 01:32.17 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18322 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - now supports SimpleMinimap's square shape. |
| 01:32.33 | ckknight | nymbia, what's StitchLib? |
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| 01:34.01 | nymbia | tradeskill stuff. stores a cache of the player's tradeskill items for lookup by partial name or index or reagent name or whatever. also manages a simple queue of tradeskill spells. |
| 01:35.44 | ckknight | is it a new library? |
| 01:35.49 | nymbia | yeah |
| 01:36.03 | ckknight | new libraries should use the major version as the library folder |
| 01:36.10 | ckknight | so it should be Stitch-1.0 instead of StitchLib |
| 01:36.35 | nymbia | ok, i'll fix it :) |
| 01:36.39 | ckknight | this is so when you make Stitch-1.1, addons can have two separate versions in OptionalDeps |
| 01:36.41 | ckknight | basically |
| 01:36.44 | nymbia | right |
| 01:36.53 | ckknight | the reason old libs haven't changed is for compatibility reasons. |
| 01:37.09 | nymbia | ah |
| 01:38.51 | Tain | Oh for crying out loud. A Superman Pizza from Papa Johns? |
| 01:40.01 | ckknight | cool |
| 01:40.02 | ckknight | I want one. |
| 01:40.11 | ckknight | does it come with Kryptonite? |
| 01:40.43 | nymbia | err.. how do i get this thing to rename? switch is giving me an error |
| 01:41.39 | Tain | Think different. |
| 01:47.55 | ckknight | CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR => CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR => CV-- -V--L- DI----V- => C + V + V + L + D + I + V => 100 + 5 + 5 + 50 + 500 + 1 + 5 = 666 |
| 01:48.28 | DrDre | druids have to learn riding skill to use flight form? |
| 01:49.10 | alcaras | anyone know how to parse the socket icon in tooltips? |
| 01:51.19 | DrDre | blizzard is really making some dumb ass changes |
| 01:51.49 | DrDre | why make stealth animations lame? why nerf druids shapeshifting? Why nerf mages aoe? |
| 01:53.55 | ckknight | I nerfed your mom last night. |
| 01:53.58 | Tain | Mages are overpowered! |
| 01:54.02 | Tain | Moms are overpowered. |
| 01:54.09 | DrDre | and mages counterspell nerf was uncalled for too |
| 01:54.13 | DrDre | i agree |
| 01:54.21 | ckknight | agreed, Tain |
| 01:54.22 | DrDre | nerf her more prz |
| 01:54.24 | DrDre | jus pay her good :D |
| 01:54.28 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:55.04 | DrDre | <BC> The winner is Monkey - congratulations! |
| 01:55.16 | DrDre | give a beta key to a guy named monkey ftl! |
| 01:55.54 | DrDre | sadly alot of the winners are people using the Web based java client and didnt even change their name :/ |
| 01:56.24 | DrDre | <BC> The winner is WoW80055538 - congratulations! |
| 02:03.26 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r18323 10/trunk/ (Stitch-1.0/ StitchLib/): Stitch-1.0: rename |
| 02:07.10 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r18324 10Stitch-1.0/ (. Stitch-1.0.toc StitchLib.toc): |
| 02:07.10 | CIA-17 | Stitch-1.0: |
| 02:07.10 | CIA-17 | - Rename toc. |
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| 02:07.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 02:07.30 | ckknight | hey Tem |
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| 02:18.29 | Fwip | I get the feeling I'm doing something stupid here... FontInstance:SetJustifyH("LEFT") works great, but FontInstance:SetJustifyV("TOP") doesn't appear to do anything (no error though) |
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| 02:18.56 | DrDre | Patch date set: dec 5th next week posted by drysc on WoW US Forums |
| 02:19.07 | nymbia | neat |
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| 02:19.30 | nymbia | no.. more.. dealing.. with... multiple.. clients!! |
| 02:19.46 | Cray | rawr? |
| 02:19.55 | Tem | still multiple clients |
| 02:19.55 | Xuerian | Versions :P |
| 02:20.09 | nymbia | but they'll be on the same code ;) |
| 02:20.15 | Tem | as 2.0.1 will be behind |
| 02:20.24 | DrDre | i doubt theyll make retail with the outdated talents |
| 02:20.50 | DrDre | else they will have to give a free respec again on tbc install, which i havnt seen a blue state wed be getting 2 respecs |
| 02:21.00 | ckknight | Tem, I still only plan to care for TBC. |
| 02:21.53 | nymbia | as of next tuesday i'm sure the release code will be mostly caught up to beta.. but beta will probably sneak back ahead down the road. |
| 02:23.06 | DrDre | i agree ckk |
| 02:23.14 | DrDre | mod authors should not support non expansion |
| 02:23.17 | DrDre | it makes no sense |
| 02:23.36 | ckknight | I mean, all we have to do is wait, and we'll be ahead of the game. |
| 02:23.45 | DrDre | if your not buying expansion, why the fuck are you still playing >_> dont waste time on pointless coding :P |
| 02:23.49 | ckknight | also, 2.0.1 isn't _too_ much different than current |
| 02:24.18 | DrDre | Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51145118&sid=1 |
| 02:24.58 | nymbia | DrDre: once the expansion's out, the ui code will be identical between vanilla and TBC. |
| 02:25.16 | DrDre | oh yeah forgot that >_> |
| 02:27.03 | Silviu- | I`m curious about patchday ... svn server will crash surely :) |
| 02:27.14 | nymbia | hell yes. |
| 02:28.02 | Silviu- | ckknight u can start updating all your Fubar pluggins and release them 1 day before pls ? ;P |
| 02:28.16 | ckknight | update, how do you mean? |
| 02:28.27 | ckknight | everything's updated except HonorFu/GloryLib |
| 02:28.31 | DrDre | toc updates and such? |
| 02:28.37 | ckknight | ah, yea |
| 02:28.41 | Silviu- | Dunno they don`t need the new libs and so ? |
| 02:28.49 | ckknight | already done, Silviu- |
| 02:28.55 | Silviu- | Oky nice :) |
| 02:29.06 | ckknight | all that's left is HonorFu, really |
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| 02:29.28 | ckknight | and I haven't gotten around to that, cause no premades available for me to test with |
| 02:29.48 | ckknight | so I'll likely hack up a dry solution |
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| 02:31.58 | Silviu- | But hmm still confused about sumth, i see a lot of updates to Ac2 libs in branches, Fubar pluggins when i download them point to the branch Ace2? |
| 02:32.32 | ckknight | they should point to trunk Ace2. |
| 02:32.50 | ckknight | also, if you read the topic: All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 |
| 02:33.00 | Silviu- | and when the patch comes all branches will be moved to trunk ? |
| 02:33.04 | Silviu- | I did read it :) |
| 02:33.05 | ckknight | if you have the standalone Ace2 TBC branch, you'll be golden |
| 02:33.08 | ckknight | yes, Silviu- |
| 02:33.15 | Silviu- | Oky good thx for the infos :P |
| 02:35.18 | ckknight | if the patch does come out on Tuesday, the Ace2 branch will be merged into the trunk |
| 02:35.53 | Silviu- | ckk can i pm u one sec ? |
| 02:36.08 | ckknight | sure |
| 02:36.47 | ckknight | note: typically you don't need to ask to PM me |
| 02:36.56 | ckknight | it's not like you'd be invading my privacy by doing so. |
| 02:36.58 | Silviu- | I`m trying to be polite |
| 02:36.58 | Silviu- | :> |
| 02:37.59 | Fudge | I've seen a lot of people that think you're the devil if you just message them out of the blue. ;P |
| 02:38.19 | ckknight | odd. |
| 02:38.27 | ckknight | if you're in the channel, I have no issues |
| 02:38.36 | ckknight | someone I've never seen before, I can have issues with that |
| 02:40.43 | vhaarr | From Stargate SG-1, season 7, ep 9; they're trying to create a virus that will upload itself to the other end of the wormhole and disable their dialing device, thus crippling the recieving stargate: http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20061129033826rq4.jpg |
| 02:40.44 | Cray | like the "GO TO www.hawtgurls.com for free monies!" ones? |
| 02:40.46 | vhaarr | And what do they use? |
| 02:40.47 | vhaarr | Java. |
| 02:40.49 | vhaarr | ! |
| 02:41.00 | vhaarr | Note the comment on line 7. |
| 02:41.07 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.09 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 02:41.22 | Greywind | lol @ soulshard most crafted item :P |
| 02:41.41 | Tain | I friggin' love House. |
| 02:41.50 | Funkeh` | nn folks :) |
| 02:42.15 | pastamancer | Tain: the writing has been pretty hit-or-miss this season :( |
| 02:42.16 | ckknight | you don't write viruses in Java |
| 02:42.23 | ckknight | viruses are written in VB, C, or ASM |
| 02:42.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:42.28 | vhaarr | you don't write // comments on boards either |
| 02:42.32 | vhaarr | :P |
| 02:42.34 | Cray | that looks more like c++ to me.. |
| 02:42.40 | Cray | and vb itself is a virus :P |
| 02:42.41 | ckknight | Cray, it's not C++, that's Java. |
| 02:42.48 | vhaarr | It's java indeed. |
| 02:42.56 | vhaarr | I've worked with it for 5 years, I think I know. |
| 02:43.22 | Xuerian | Question is... Why are they writing it on a blackboard? |
| 02:43.22 | Cray | i avoid java at all costs :P |
| 02:43.22 | ckknight | you can tell by byte[] bin = new byte[HCMb] |
| 02:43.22 | Xuerian | Java or not... |
| 02:43.24 | Greywind | wow it really is portable :P |
| 02:43.29 | vhaarr | haha |
| 02:43.33 | Xuerian | hahaha |
| 02:43.34 | Cray | ya, didn't see that line |
| 02:43.57 | ckknight | also note the lack of -> and just . showing up |
| 02:44.25 | ckknight | though they have fcut.SetLength(0);, which is odd |
| 02:44.33 | vhaarr | the whole point of coding on a whiteboard is rapid development in collaboration with another person, and when you do that .. |
| 02:44.35 | ckknight | since it uses PascalCase instead of camelCase |
| 02:44.37 | vhaarr | you write *pseudo* code |
| 02:44.51 | Cray | now i feel like a ch00b because i didn't really look at it and got the language wrong |
| 02:44.54 | ckknight | vhaarr, I know people who've written out whole programs on whiteboards... |
| 02:45.03 | vhaarr | ckknight: Syntax correct? |
| 02:45.17 | Xuerian | It's not so much knowing people who have, it's knowing why people who have, have. |
| 02:45.18 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 02:45.25 | ckknight | vhaarr, yea, except every other line was missing a semicolon |
| 02:45.33 | vhaarr | I've written my share of whiteboard code, but the whole point is that it's supposed to be fast, which is why you write pseudo. |
| 02:45.39 | ckknight | right. |
| 02:45.40 | vhaarr | and not syntax perfect |
| 02:45.43 | vhaarr | and NOT // comments |
| 02:45.45 | vhaarr | :P |
| 02:45.50 | Xuerian | Yep. |
| 02:45.55 | ckknight | Lua is actually a rather good language to use as Pseudocode itself |
| 02:45.57 | ckknight | Python, too |
| 02:46.01 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 02:46.03 | vhaarr | java is not :P |
| 02:46.04 | ckknight | but not Java |
| 02:46.09 | ckknight | hehe ;-) |
| 02:46.18 | vhaarr | well, at least it's not bullshit |
| 02:46.23 | vhaarr | I mean, total bullshit |
| 02:46.38 | ckknight | like Swordfish-style programming |
| 02:46.43 | ckknight | or even better: Antitrust-style |
| 02:46.44 | vhaarr | haha indeed |
| 02:46.53 | ckknight | zomg, flying cubes! |
| 02:46.58 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 02:47.24 | KarlThePagan | you'll hate this |
| 02:47.28 | vhaarr | We have this council in norway that renames foreign movies to norwegian titles, and they actually renamed "Antitrust" to "Conspiracy.com". |
| 02:47.32 | KarlThePagan | at my old uni they've totally f'd up the cirriculum |
| 02:47.41 | ckknight | vhaarr, srsly? |
| 02:47.44 | vhaarr | y |
| 02:47.45 | KarlThePagan | and made up a new language they actually call "pseudocode" |
| 02:47.46 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 02:47.48 | ckknight | KarlThePagan, hrm? |
| 02:47.52 | ckknight | lol... |
| 02:47.54 | vhaarr | hah |
| 02:47.58 | vhaarr | that's so contradictary |
| 02:48.01 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 02:48.08 | KarlThePagan | pseudocode that has syntax... that COMPILES |
| 02:48.18 | KarlThePagan | it made me want to pound nails into my forehead |
| 02:48.19 | vhaarr | lol |
| 02:48.20 | ckknight | just call it Python. |
| 02:48.33 | KarlThePagan | the problem is... it was written by idiot grad students |
| 02:48.44 | ckknight | my Algorithms teacher thinks Pseudocode is C with semicolons, without braces, and arbitrarily 1-indexed or 0-indexed. |
| 02:49.05 | vhaarr | yeah the indexing is always the problem with pseudocode |
| 02:49.09 | KarlThePagan | if I go back to there to teach at all I will make them drop "pseudocode" for lua or something like that |
| 02:49.16 | vhaarr | if pseudocode uses arrays, you must be there when it's written or you can't know :P |
| 02:49.24 | ckknight | vhaarr, all you gotta do is decide at the start whether you're using 0-indexing or 1-indexing |
| 02:49.28 | ckknight | and make sure it's clearly stated. |
| 02:49.31 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: or just drop it for .. pseudo .. code. |
| 02:49.37 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 02:50.06 | KarlThePagan | they need something to test 300 students on :P |
| 02:50.07 | ckknight | cladhaire's thesis paper was on the pedagogical values of lua, actually. |
| 02:50.09 | KarlThePagan | C was "too hard" |
| 02:50.16 | ckknight | KarlThePagan, srsly? |
| 02:50.26 | KarlThePagan | yes... I need to choke a bitch for that one |
| 02:50.33 | vhaarr | C is crap for a first language to learn. |
| 02:50.39 | KarlThePagan | it's passable |
| 02:50.43 | ckknight | C++ was my first, actually. |
| 02:50.45 | vhaarr | Java or Python is alot easier to wrap around. |
| 02:51.00 | ckknight | now I know quite a few languages |
| 02:51.04 | ckknight | man, I totally want to run a CS department |
| 02:51.10 | ckknight | or minimally, teach a CS class |
| 02:51.20 | ckknight | and basically teach a new language every week |
| 02:51.25 | ckknight | hoping that one will stick. |
| 02:51.29 | KarlThePagan | I would support teaching lua |
| 02:51.37 | ckknight | lua is great for concepts. |
| 02:51.46 | KarlThePagan | yea like function pointers without the pointers! |
| 02:52.00 | ckknight | or table-based data structures. |
| 02:52.08 | ckknight | which can represent any other data structure, really. |
| 02:52.28 | KarlThePagan | it would be cool to do a linked list in lua... even overriding [] etc |
| 02:52.38 | ckknight | oh, I can do it. |
| 02:52.41 | ckknight | gimme a minute. |
| 02:52.45 | KarlThePagan | it would be wrong and scary but it would be coo |
| 02:53.56 | KarlThePagan | ck - I've got a famous professor at wsu... teaches ML no matter what course it is and gets half the class to complain to the dean every time |
| 02:53.57 | KarlThePagan | lol |
| 02:54.21 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:54.26 | ckknight | I don't know ML, actually |
| 02:54.38 | KarlThePagan | scheme-like |
| 02:54.54 | KarlThePagan | I have repressed memories about what he taught... but I didn't cry about it :P |
| 02:55.06 | Cray | i'm kinda disappointed i never got to learn any real obscure languages in school |
| 02:55.57 | Greywind | ok back to work i go, my boss let me go to a basketball game but i have to close, boo! cya later guys |
| 02:57.39 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07TBC * r18325 10DKPmon/ (Console/biditems.lua Console/console.lua DKPmon.toc): |
| 02:57.39 | CIA-17 | DKPmon: |
| 02:57.39 | CIA-17 | - Updates for WoW 2.0. |
| 02:57.39 | CIA-17 | - Fix to item link parsing. |
| 02:57.42 | Xuerian | Cya, Greywind. |
| 02:58.07 | KarlThePagan | so you think we're one or two weeks out on the patch? |
| 02:58.18 | KarlThePagan | with a PTR update I'm guessing 2 but could be 1 |
| 02:58.35 | nymbia | someone said it was announced as a week from todau |
| 02:58.42 | nymbia | s/todau/today/ |
| 02:59.12 | KarlThePagan | I should check the blue posts again... I swear they were evasive as usual |
| 03:00.16 | nymbia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51145118&sid=1 |
| 03:00.16 | CIA-17 | 03eraslin 07TBC * r18326 10Bidder/Bidder.toc: Bidder: Change toc number |
| 03:00.16 | KarlThePagan | ty |
| 03:01.36 | Fwip | I get the feeling I'm doing something stupid here... FontInstance:SetJustifyH("LEFT") works great, but FontInstance:SetJustifyV("TOP") doesn't appear to do anything (no error though) |
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| 03:03.30 | Fwip | WowWiki doesn't have a page on either, so I'm just going off of what it says |
| 03:07.05 | Fwip | oh, and ckknight, you were right about linking frames together not having a noticeable impact on performance |
| 03:07.17 | ckknight | I've done it |
| 03:07.21 | ckknight | I've linked 100 together |
| 03:07.26 | ckknight | things broke down right around there. |
| 03:07.31 | ckknight | alright, feels like classtime. |
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| 03:14.30 | Tain | Brittney Murphy plays such a good white trash whore. |
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| 03:17.42 | Vanish | Thanks for adding SMM support to FuBar, CK. I'm disappointed you did it before I got to pester you though. ;) |
| 03:17.54 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:17.58 | ckknight | someone sent me a patch. |
| 03:18.08 | ckknight | was it you? |
| 03:18.10 | Vanish | Ahh, coolies. |
| 03:18.15 | Vanish | Nope. Probably arjuna |
| 03:18.22 | ckknight | nope, arjuna |
| 03:18.26 | ckknight | yea, the code's not complicated |
| 03:18.33 | ckknight | but I didn't know SMM's structure/API |
| 03:18.39 | ckknight | so I couldn't code it fast |
| 03:18.46 | ckknight | so I let someone else do it for me ;-) |
| 03:18.51 | Vanish | LOL |
| 03:19.17 | Vanish | So now I just have to wait for arjuna to release a new SMM that works, or? |
| 03:20.31 | Vanish | I ask because you made changes to FuBar PLugin 2.0 instead of FuBar. Don't know precisely what that entails |
| 03:22.40 | ckknight | Vanish, you update FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 03:22.41 | ckknight | should be good. |
| 03:23.14 | Vanish | Hmm. Well I pulled FuBar PLugin ;0 out of the SVN, but I never had before. Odd |
| 03:23.34 | vhaarr | It's an embedded library, just like Ace2. |
| 03:23.43 | vhaarr | Addons that need it come packed with it already. |
| 03:24.44 | Vanish | That's what I figured. That's why I asked if I needed to get an update from arjuna then. I need to read up on how these embedded Libs work so I know how overrides, etc. work |
| 03:25.03 | ckknight | um, wait until someone updates a fubar plugin |
| 03:25.07 | ckknight | basically. |
| 03:25.15 | ckknight | btw, I wrote a linked list in lua |
| 03:25.22 | ckknight | so bad. |
| 03:25.46 | Vanish | linked list? |
| 03:25.50 | vhaarr | wikipedia.org |
| 03:25.52 | vhaarr | Look it up. |
| 03:26.22 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3146.0;topicseen |
| 03:26.24 | Vanish | I know what a linked list is. :P I was asking what CK's list was for. I'll be more specific next time |
| 03:26.27 | vhaarr | In case you didn't read it. |
| 03:26.41 | pastamancer | ckknight: eek |
| 03:26.42 | ckknight | Vanish, <KarlThePagan> it would be cool to do a linked list in lua... even overriding [] etc |
| 03:26.47 | ckknight | so I did it. |
| 03:26.54 | Vanish | Ahhh. I see |
| 03:26.57 | KarlThePagan | hah coo |
| 03:27.01 | ckknight | lemme pastey. |
| 03:27.17 | ckknight | it's so bad. |
| 03:27.18 | Vanish | That was before I was on |
| 03:27.18 | pastamancer | it sounds horrible |
| 03:27.28 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/2829 |
| 03:27.37 | pastamancer | that would be like using make-hash-table instead of cons in lisp >< |
| 03:27.49 | KarlThePagan | now write an automatic testing framework to regression test all your code and profile lua tables vs your linked list ;) |
| 03:27.51 | KarlThePagan | jk |
| 03:27.56 | ckknight | vhaarr, yea, I don't see myself changing the nature of hints. |
| 03:28.10 | vhaarr | ckknight: I agree, I like them the way they are. |
| 03:28.10 | Vanish | What if we beg ya, ck? |
| 03:28.12 | ckknight | KarlThePagan, lua tables will be much more efficient. |
| 03:28.21 | KarlThePagan | yes I'm quite sure of it ;) |
| 03:28.23 | vhaarr | ckknight: But what they're requesting is the ability to hide hints with a setting in the FuBar menu. |
| 03:28.24 | Vanish | I'd like to be able to turn off hints |
| 03:28.35 | ckknight | vhaarr, it's a Tablet thing, not a FuBar thing. |
| 03:28.43 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm aware. |
| 03:28.43 | KarlThePagan | maybe except for iterating thru an extremely large list |
| 03:28.59 | KarlThePagan | for example... HeyFu with 2000 tells in it ;) |
| 03:30.00 | Vanish | Actually, what I'd prefer is requiring a key combo on mouseover to show hints... yeah, I'm dreamin' |
| 03:30.51 | Vanish | nymbia, you around? |
| 03:31.38 | ckknight | vhaarr, so it'd be a bitch for me to change behavior. |
| 03:31.45 | ckknight | so I just don't feel like making the effort. |
| 03:31.53 | vhaarr | I'm not going to either. |
| 03:31.58 | vhaarr | Note that I haven't posted in the thread. |
| 03:32.00 | vhaarr | :P |
| 03:32.07 | nymbia | Vanish, yeah |
| 03:32.23 | Vanish | Nymbia: Is stitch a profession queue lib? |
| 03:32.45 | nymbia | yeah. and profession data caching/lookup |
| 03:32.51 | Vanish | Sweet! |
| 03:32.58 | Vanish | Looking forward to it |
| 03:33.02 | nymbia | :) |
| 03:34.32 | KarlThePagan | Q: How can you be more carebear on a PvP server than on a PvE one? A: MC and fort horde you come across. |
| 03:35.17 | KarlThePagan | horde helped me kill stuff but i couldn't reward him lol |
| 03:35.30 | nymbia | http://wowhead.com/?npcs |
| 03:35.46 | nymbia | oops, sorry ;) |
| 03:36.26 | Neebler | I'd like to address the issue of the up and coming WoW term "shiv" and the act of "shivving" |
| 03:36.29 | ckknight | vhaarr, note how I haven't either. |
| 03:36.43 | Neebler | it makes me uncomfortable |
| 03:36.58 | Vanish | Can I... umm... shiv you Neebler? |
| 03:37.14 | ckknight | shiv? |
| 03:37.15 | nymbia | http://wowhead.com/?npcs |
| 03:37.15 | Neebler | yeech~ |
| 03:37.19 | nymbia | dammit! |
| 03:37.26 | nymbia | just.. ignore me ;) |
| 03:37.55 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm unsure how much you venture around the forum, so I sometimes decide to link you posts that might be interesting. |
| 03:38.33 | ckknight | I stick to the threads that I care about |
| 03:38.36 | ckknight | i.e. Cartographer |
| 03:38.41 | ckknight | for now |
| 03:38.50 | ckknight | until I declare it done and move to a new project. |
| 03:38.53 | vhaarr | right, so I'll continue to harass you. |
| 03:38.58 | ckknight | about? |
| 03:39.13 | vhaarr | about threads that might be interesting |
| 03:39.20 | ckknight | alright. |
| 03:39.31 | vhaarr | :P |
| 03:39.36 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r18327 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua ToFuLocals.lua): FuBar_ToFu: Fix a misunderstood approach to icons, and some places where function naming was inconsistent. |
| 03:40.06 | Vanish | Hmm... so unembedding sounds like a good thing |
| 03:40.19 | Kemayo | ckknight: Is there any way for me to avoid notes being created reeeeeeeally close to each other when making them on NPCs? |
| 03:40.52 | ckknight | Kemayo, well, notes are separated by 0.1% of the map |
| 03:41.03 | ckknight | so if you make sure to get in right about the same place, you'll be fine ;-) |
| 03:41.12 | ckknight | but no, there's no way to check an "area" yet. |
| 03:41.46 | ckknight | maybe I could make an :IterateNearbyNotes("zone", x, y, radius) |
| 03:41.47 | ckknight | .... |
| 03:41.49 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:42.51 | Vanish | Ok, so is the !!!StandaloneLibraries the way to keep libs current for unembedding? |
| 03:44.18 | ckknight | use WAU for that |
| 03:44.54 | Vanish | Not an option for me, sorry. (I prefer ro play on my Mac) |
| 03:45.03 | vhaarr | It doesn't run on Mono? |
| 03:45.09 | ckknight | it should... |
| 03:45.24 | vhaarr | Indeed it should. |
| 03:45.46 | ckknight | alright, gtg for a while |
| 03:45.57 | Vanish | I honestly hadn't checked. Anything with "windows" in the name generally means "freakin' forget it" for Mac |
| 03:46.07 | vhaarr | It doesn't have Windows in the name |
| 03:46.15 | vhaarr | It's short for WowAceUpdater or something. |
| 03:46.31 | Vanish | Ummm, everyone on the forums calls It WinAceUpdater |
| 03:46.32 | vhaarr | http://www.mono-project.com/Moma |
| 03:46.49 | vhaarr | I don't care what they call it. |
| 03:47.35 | Vanish | I don't suppose you have a link to it? Is it on wowace? |
| 03:47.55 | Neebler | I'm super tired right now and can't think straight. Whats the right term I'm looking for to describe "the act of" |
| 03:48.08 | Neebler | like 'run' and 'running' |
| 03:48.19 | KarlThePagan | verb |
| 03:48.21 | Neebler | yea I know I feel dumb |
| 03:48.23 | pastamancer | transitive verb? |
| 03:48.50 | Neebler | thanks, my eyes are half closed and for some reason thats the time of the day I get the urge to make forum posts |
| 03:50.30 | vhaarr | Anyone got a warrior in TBC beta? |
| 03:50.39 | vhaarr | I need to know the talent index for Shield Wall. |
| 03:50.52 | vhaarr | It's 3, 13 in 1.12. |
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| 03:53.44 | vhaarr | Seems to be 3,13 in TBC as well, yay. |
| 03:54.35 | Vanish | Anyone know why BugSack somtimes goes runaway on errors? (like thousands per minute) |
| 03:55.16 | vhaarr | It's blocked addon events. |
| 03:55.27 | vhaarr | Or is it in 1.12? |
| 03:55.31 | Vanish | 1.12 |
| 03:55.47 | vhaarr | Then I have no idea - you should know from looking at the errors, though. |
| 03:55.56 | vhaarr | And BugSack stops at 100, it never records more. |
| 03:56.15 | Vanish | Tell that to the spinning numbers in my FuBar |
| 03:56.33 | Vanish | Although, it's only the right number that spins |
| 03:56.42 | vhaarr | That's repeated events. |
| 03:56.49 | vhaarr | The left number is unique errors. |
| 03:57.04 | Vanish | Yeah, but I can't see which event is causing the massive repeats |
| 03:57.10 | vhaarr | Yes, you can. |
| 03:57.23 | vhaarr | It's a bit obscure, but it's there. |
| 03:57.29 | Vanish | Then I'm missing it. Where do I see it |
| 03:57.34 | vhaarr | Open the bugsack and copy the first line from the first error, please. |
| 03:57.38 | vhaarr | And I'll point it out. |
| 03:57.45 | Thrae | Vanish: Log out and check BugGrabber's saved variables. |
| 03:57.53 | vhaarr | No, don't do that. |
| 03:57.56 | Vanish | Umm, I reloaded the UI. That fixes it |
| 03:58.19 | Vanish | Alright, I'll look harder next time |
| 03:58.20 | Thrae | Do it now before it's too late! Nooooo! |
| 03:58.34 | vhaarr | Vanish: Produce an error, then, it can be done from the BugSack menu. |
| 03:58.41 | Neebler | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51005358&postId=509007612&sid=1#0 |
| 03:58.42 | Neebler | :P |
| 03:59.08 | Neebler | disregard my forum troll post, it's my first attempt at one. I'm going to sleep now |
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| 03:59.38 | Vanish | Here's one (I forgot t disable ItemBonusLibs penchant for reloading the en Locale) |
| 03:59.38 | Vanish | [2006/11/28 21:43:43-80-x1]: Locales\enUS.lua:3: |
| 03:59.45 | vhaarr | [2006/11/28 21:43:43-80-x1]: |
| 03:59.48 | vhaarr | See that "x1" ? |
| 03:59.52 | Vanish | Ahhhh. ok |
| 03:59.53 | vhaarr | That's the counter. |
| 04:00.08 | Vanish | Cool |
| 04:00.10 | vhaarr | [date time-session-counter] |
| 04:00.16 | Vanish | ty |
| 04:00.30 | vhaarr | Thrae: Getting this? :P |
| 04:01.16 | Thrae | Shhh, I last played WoW before the Warlock class was implemented. Back then, we called it "ImprovedBugFrame". |
| 04:01.27 | vhaarr | :D |
| 04:01.32 | vhaarr | I've made some improvements recently. |
| 04:01.45 | Vanish | BugSack is WAY better than IBF |
| 04:02.05 | vhaarr | mjc: "*REQUIRES ClosetGnome by Rabbit of Magtheridon! (can be found on wowinterface, I do believe.)*", it can not :P |
| 04:02.09 | vhaarr | mjc: SVN only! |
| 04:02.21 | CIA-17 | 03mcc * r18328 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc locale/zhTW.lua): |
| 04:02.21 | CIA-17 | cyCircled: |
| 04:02.21 | CIA-17 | Added Chinese Traditional Translation |
| 04:02.49 | Thrae | What ImprovedBugFrame did was simple -- it kept throwing errors at you from itself, thus relieving you of trying to "diagnose" problems. Who has time for that? It's a game, it's made to be PLAYED! |
| 04:02.59 | vhaarr | lol |
| 04:03.01 | Vanish | ClosetGnome bombed me with massive errors the one time I tried it. Haven't tried it again yet |
| 04:03.17 | vhaarr | Vanish: Then you should have *given me that error*. |
| 04:03.21 | vhaarr | :P |
| 04:03.35 | Vanish | There was too many to Copy/Paste. ;P |
| 04:03.37 | Thrae | Vanish: Now you know why most Gnomes stay IN the Closet. |
| 04:04.24 | vhaarr | "You make your ClosetGnome an offer he can't refuse, and so he equips %s." |
| 04:04.41 | KarlThePagan | I would use CG if it had the nifty popout trays that outfitter has |
| 04:04.48 | vhaarr | SwapMagic. |
| 04:04.53 | Vanish | Aha! The download said WowAceUdater, but the docs that come with it call it WinAceUpdater. :P |
| 04:04.53 | vhaarr | Separate mod, same magic. |
| 04:05.03 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: Get it from the SVN as well. |
| 04:05.16 | KarlThePagan | k |
| 04:05.29 | KarlThePagan | need to whack my svn with a clueX4 |
| 04:05.38 | vhaarr | "Even though your washer is clearly labeled 'Certified by ClosetGnomes, Inc.', it's clear that %s has not been cleaned in a while." |
| 04:05.48 | vhaarr | I have to write more of these soon. |
| 04:06.04 | mjc | yes! |
| 04:06.07 | Thrae | "You place a rainbow-coloured %s in front of ClosetGnome, luring him out of the closet."; "Soothing his heart with Barbara Strisen music, your ClosetGnome dutifully equips %s."; "Your ClosetGnome equips %s and flaunts its massive size (or lack there of)." |
| 04:06.16 | mjc | closetgnome sayings db hasn't been updated in a while |
| 04:06.30 | vhaarr | Thrae: o_O! |
| 04:06.47 | Vanish | Barbars Strisen? |
| 04:07.04 | Thrae | Well that's what I think of when I hear about a Gnome in a closet ;) |
| 04:07.13 | Thrae | Vanish: Sorry, did I misspell your hero's name? :D |
| 04:07.29 | Vanish | *cough* Barbara Strisand. (and no, I hate the bitch) |
| 04:07.36 | vhaarr | "Your ClosetGnome equips %s and flaunts its massive size (or lack there of).", I love it! |
| 04:07.37 | Thrae | Suuuure you do. |
| 04:08.13 | Vanish | Always have, always will. Her politics alone are dreadful enough to warrant hatred |
| 04:08.20 | KarlThePagan | my tortoise svn is being stupid "REPORT of '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request" |
| 04:08.35 | vhaarr | Thrae: I changed it to "Soothing his heart with 'Theme from Love Boat', your ClosetGnome dutifully equips %s." |
| 04:08.39 | vhaarr | Thrae: sound OK? :P |
| 04:08.54 | Vanish | LOL! Much better |
| 04:09.05 | KarlThePagan | at this point I'm blaming ie7 but that might not be it |
| 04:09.27 | vhaarr | How can you blame IE for a SVN error? |
| 04:09.34 | Vanish | Oh BOO... whoever gave me the lines to change in Prat to get th good scrol down reminder was wrong. Now I have nothing... |
| 04:10.12 | Thrae | vhaarr: Yeah, don't want to offend the gay Ace community. They're a large minority! |
| 04:10.21 | vhaarr | :D |
| 04:10.38 | Thrae | 50% of the senior developers of Ace-brand products are openly gay, y'know. |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-17 | 03fleetfoot 07TBC * r18329 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble-enUS.lua BigTrouble.lua BigTrouble.toc): |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-17 | BigTrouble: |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-17 | - Working with Surface lib. |
| 04:11.04 | CIA-17 | - Killed some little bugs. |
| 04:12.39 | Thrae | "ClosetGnome produces a critical failure when attempting to equip %s and is dealt (random) damage. ClosetGnome dies. Thankfully, we have a never-ending supply." |
| 04:13.31 | vhaarr | ~whalecrit ClosetGnome |
| 04:13.34 | purl | ACTION crits ClosetGnome with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. ClosetGnome dies |
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| 04:14.23 | Thrae | "ClosetGnome attempts to equip %s and intially uses the wrong appendage. Actually, I don't think that can really be called an appendage. Let's just say ClosetGnome equips %s and be done with this discussion." |
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| 04:23.00 | Vanish | Nope. WAU doesn't like Mono. pparently it uses too much .Net 2.0 |
| 04:23.08 | CIA-17 | 03fleetfoot * r18330 10/branches/Nudge/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Nudge: - Inital tbc import |
| 04:23.18 | vhaarr | Vanish: Did you try Moma on it? |
| 04:23.27 | Vanish | Oh, nope. Lemme d that |
| 04:26.35 | Vanish | Hmm... It doesn't even want to run MoMA |
| 04:26.50 | vhaarr | You run MoMA. |
| 04:26.57 | vhaarr | And load the assembly. |
| 04:27.18 | Vanish | MoMA is a Windows exe file. I have to run it through Mono |
| 04:27.34 | vhaarr | You need Mono 1.2.x, afaik |
| 04:27.37 | Vanish | It's supposed to work with the version of mono I have installed... |
| 04:27.44 | Vanish | Yeah, I updated to 1.2.1 |
| 04:30.43 | vhaarr | okay, it won't run |
| 04:31.14 | Vanish | You run it through MoMA? |
| 04:31.19 | vhaarr | yes |
| 04:31.35 | Vanish | Ahh, ok |
| 04:31.40 | Vanish | Well poopie |
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| 04:36.37 | Xuerian | All that "MoMA" talk makes me want to crack a "Yo MoMA!" joke. |
| 04:36.53 | Xuerian | Yet... I have nothing. |
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| 04:37.16 | vhaarr | May I suggest "/me stabs yo moma" ? |
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| 04:38.07 | Xuerian | 'cause yo' moma so fat, the knife'd just pop out like she was made'a rubber! |
| 04:39.37 | Neebler | dirty is angry you're touching her |
| 04:40.14 | Neebler | but also liking it, because she's dirty, woooOoo |
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| 04:40.43 | Xuerian | win. |
| 04:40.45 | Xuerian | XD |
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| 04:50.56 | alcaras | anyone have experience parsing tbc tooltips and know how to parse the socket icon? |
| 04:51.48 | vhaarr | Gratuity is a tooltip parser library. |
| 04:52.01 | alcaras | does it parse sockets? |
| 04:52.15 | alcaras | and i'm looking for a higher level library |
| 04:52.38 | alcaras | gratuity doesn't convert +9 Stamina to .stamina = 9 |
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| 04:53.50 | DrDre | why is my fubar plugins tooltips all red background? |
| 04:54.27 | pastamancer | alcaras: ItemBonusLib would be the best place to start |
| 04:55.00 | alcaras | k, thanks pasta |
| 04:55.06 | alcaras | is that per item or overall? |
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| 04:56.15 | pastamancer | hmm, it looks like it can do both |
| 04:56.29 | alcaras | is there documentation anywhere? |
| 04:57.16 | pastamancer | the wiki, I'd imagine |
| 04:57.18 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Libraries |
| 04:57.23 | vhaarr | If it's not there, someone should add it. |
| 04:58.18 | alcaras | it's not |
| 04:58.18 | alcaras | :-/ |
| 04:58.30 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ItemBonusLib-1.0 ? |
| 04:58.47 | Cairenn | for those not in the lounge - Blizz has announced their intended release date for the next content patch, 5 Dec - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51145118&sid=1 |
| 04:59.11 | vhaarr | Should be there now, I added [[Category:Libraries]]. |
| 04:59.27 | alcaras | thanks pasta |
| 04:59.54 | Fwip | wow... inheriting from templates makes making GUI elements a lot simpler *forehead smack* |
| 05:00.15 | Fwip | here I was defining textures and frames for the buttons on my sliders... |
| 05:00.22 | vhaarr | Fwip: I believe the proper term is "d'oh!" |
| 05:00.33 | Fwip | aye, that one |
| 05:00.44 | pastamancer | Fwip: I much prefer having a lua function act like a template |
| 05:00.55 | pastamancer | or rather a "template" |
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| 05:13.00 | CIA-17 | 03fleetfoot 07TBC * r18331 10Nudge/Nudge/ (Nudge-enUS.lua Nudge.lua Nudge.toc libs/): |
| 05:13.00 | CIA-17 | Nudge: |
| 05:13.00 | CIA-17 | - Cleaned up some code |
| 05:13.00 | CIA-17 | - Updated acelibs |
| 05:13.00 | CIA-17 | - Updated the toc |
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| 05:20.12 | Fwip | Hmm... it seems that doing FontInstance:SetJustifyV("TOP") has no effect, though SetJustifyH("LEFT") works fine, unless I'm just doing something stupid |
| 05:21.53 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub 07TBC * r18332 10Nudge/Nudge/Nudge.lua: |
| 05:21.54 | CIA-17 | Nudge: |
| 05:21.54 | CIA-17 | - add locals for koKR |
| 05:22.38 | pastamancer | Fwip: chances are that your font string is just tall enough for the text |
| 05:23.57 | Fwip | oh... that makes sense, I was thinking that it justified it to the top of the button it was in |
| 05:24.13 | pastamancer | that's SetPoint |
| 05:24.32 | Fwip | you guys are really helpful ^_^ |
| 05:25.42 | pastamancer | I'm sure we've all run into a few non-intuitive things about the wow ui |
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| 05:45.19 | Kwipper | Heya guys. I heard about your UI interface called ace. I am a newbie to this mod; so where woudl you recommend that I begin? |
| 05:45.29 | Kalamadi | Does anyone else's PTR client freeze when attempting to load a character? |
| 05:45.42 | Kwipper | I play a Level 43 hunter, tauren on the Bloodhoof Server |
| 05:45.51 | Kalamadi | ~ace |
| 05:46.00 | purl | from memory, ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 05:48.17 | Kalamadi | Whew. Client nearly froze my PC D: |
| 05:48.37 | Kalamadi | And sorry for being terse, Kwipper |
| 05:49.57 | vhaarr | Kwipper: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons |
| 05:50.49 | Kalamadi | vhaarr: Have you had any problems with clients freezing when loading characters? |
| 05:51.46 | vhaarr | no |
| 05:53.12 | Kalamadi | Hmm. It's been doing this for a while; should I reinstall the PTR client altogether and try that? |
| 05:56.23 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: yes |
| 05:57.26 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: my beta client and my live client freeze on loading recently |
| 06:04.58 | Kalamadi | sylvanaar: Did reinstalling fix the issue? |
| 06:08.27 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: i didnt reinstall, its still running bad |
| 06:09.13 | Kalamadi | =/ |
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| 06:13.59 | vhaarr | Kwipper: Don't be afraid to ask more specific questions. |
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| 06:20.32 | Tekkub | hrm... I won another TBC key, but it's an EU one |
| 06:20.53 | SP|Sorren | time2ebay? |
| 06:20.58 | SP|Sorren | or get an eu account? :p |
| 06:21.04 | Tekkub | ... |
| 06:21.06 | SP|Sorren | or you could hold your own little raffle |
| 06:21.19 | Tekkub | wow... I actually considered that |
| 06:21.19 | SP|Sorren | and give it to some poor EU soul who needs a key. |
| 06:21.39 | |Pixel| | are there still any poor EU soul in need of a key ? |
| 06:22.28 | Tekkub | *gives serious consideration to this* |
| 06:22.43 | Tekkub | put it towards the new laptop fend... |
| 06:22.46 | Tekkub | *fund |
| 06:23.10 | |Pixel| | come on :) |
| 06:24.16 | Tekkub | anyone know any EU bastards that don't have a key and like, deserve one? :) |
| 06:24.25 | Tekkub | and can't get one from WoWI |
| 06:24.42 | groll | i deserve one :D and i'm eu :P |
| 06:25.04 | Tekkub | and can't get one from WoWI? |
| 06:25.10 | |Pixel| | how did you manage not to get any key yet ? |
| 06:25.12 | groll | ok ok i already got one :P |
| 06:25.18 | |Pixel| | duh |
| 06:25.20 | groll | hehe |
| 06:25.54 | groll | but i got friends who could use one :) but it's up to you ofcourse :D if u find someone better i dont care :) |
| 06:26.08 | groll | and there prolly is better :P |
| 06:26.48 | |Pixel| | I still have like ~25 keys left anyway... |
| 06:26.53 | groll | lol |
| 06:27.08 | SP|Sorren | ;o |
| 06:27.17 | groll | can i have 10 for my guild? :P |
| 06:28.24 | |Pixel| | sure |
| 06:28.39 | groll | lol right :P |
| 06:34.41 | Jens | Where'd you get all them keys? |
| 06:34.52 | Kalamadi | He bought key seeds. |
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| 06:38.24 | Jens | Hoping I win one from IncGamers. |
| 06:39.00 | |Pixel| | Jens: directly from the source |
| 06:39.09 | |Pixel| | want one ? |
| 06:39.22 | Jens | I surely wouldn't mind one. |
| 06:43.06 | Jens | "The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request." |
| 06:43.07 | Jens | :/ |
| 06:43.11 | Jens | Dang it. |
| 06:43.28 | |Pixel| | when validating the "upgrade" button ? |
| 06:43.34 | Jens | Yes. |
| 06:44.07 | |Pixel| | okay |
| 06:44.18 | |Pixel| | hmmhmm |
| 06:44.36 | Jens | Maybe it will work when I get back from school. |
| 06:44.56 | |Pixel| | could you get me an exact screenshot or description of the error ? |
| 06:45.05 | Jens | Alright. |
| 06:45.23 | |Pixel| | I mean, I'd like to know if it's an error shown into the burning crusade skin, or if it's an error shown in the white tomcat-style |
| 06:48.45 | Jens | http://jensrex.net/img/bc_error.png |
| 06:48.56 | groll | oh well time for stargate atlantis :D |
| 06:49.08 | Jens | Now I gotta be off to school. I'm late. |
| 06:49.12 | |Pixel| | dammit |
| 06:49.20 | |Pixel| | okay, I think I see what the issue is... |
| 06:50.13 | nymbia | bleh.. work early in the morning.. night guys |
| 06:50.33 | nymbia | kergoth: i'm almost finished with the PT drops ;) |
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| 06:54.52 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:55.59 | ckknight | so, anyone college-aged want to come to Hawaii for a semester, get a scholarship to go to school here, and compete with me in the ACM-Pacific NW regional contest? |
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| 06:56.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:58.03 | anenigma | sure |
| 06:58.09 | anenigma | where do I sign up |
| 06:58.09 | ckknight | my professor said to ask people who might be good, even if they're in another state/country |
| 06:58.15 | anenigma | 23 is college-aged, right? |
| 06:58.16 | anenigma | :P |
| 06:58.30 | ckknight | well, you'll have to not have completed your ungrad, is all |
| 06:58.34 | ckknight | so technically, you could be 40 |
| 06:58.38 | ckknight | just without your degree |
| 06:58.42 | anenigma | oh |
| 06:58.53 | anenigma | i've only got one, but i'm studying two more undergrads atm, does that count? |
| 06:58.57 | Kalamadi | The what competition? |
| 06:59.08 | ckknight | http://www.acmcontest-pacnw.org/ |
| 06:59.28 | ckknight | If you notice, Hawaii Pacific University=>A got #10 this time |
| 06:59.32 | ckknight | I led that team |
| 06:59.32 | anenigma | ckknight: i do know a guy, who does topcoder, is an undergrad, and has been interviewed by google though |
| 06:59.54 | Kalamadi | Neat. |
| 06:59.57 | ckknight | would he want to come to Hawaii for Fall 2007? |
| 07:00.01 | ckknight | I need 2 teammates. |
| 07:00.05 | anenigma | dunno, maybe |
| 07:00.14 | ckknight | and I don't think the people here are good. |
| 07:00.20 | ckknight | I'm an anomoly |
| 07:00.26 | anenigma | haha |
| 07:00.29 | anenigma | ooh |
| 07:00.29 | anenigma | 5pm |
| 07:00.31 | ckknight | anomaly* |
| 07:00.31 | anenigma | ding hometime |
| 07:00.35 | Kalamadi | I think in logic structures |
| 07:01.02 | ckknight | Kalamadi, does that include dynamic programming and graph theory? |
| 07:01.05 | Kalamadi | Suck at programming, but I've the thought process down >_> |
| 07:01.22 | anenigma | i know graph theory |
| 07:01.24 | ckknight | I don't need someone coding, I just need someone who understands algorithms and theory. |
| 07:01.33 | ckknight | I'm the coder |
| 07:01.34 | anenigma | doing further research next holiday hopefully |
| 07:01.38 | ckknight | and it turns out that I'm quite good at it. |
| 07:01.48 | Kalamadi | Yeah, I know such things. |
| 07:01.48 | ckknight | anenigma, cool, what parts? |
| 07:01.59 | ckknight | and my other plan is to get a really good mathematician. |
| 07:02.15 | anenigma | my plan is to become a really good mathematician |
| 07:02.17 | ckknight | cause there tends to be 1 or 2 mathy problems. |
| 07:02.23 | Kalamadi | Matrix manipulation FTW. |
| 07:02.29 | anenigma | but umm .. yeah |
| 07:02.29 | ckknight | I'm no mathematician, just a computer scientist. |
| 07:02.37 | anenigma | can't remember the term for the stuff i was gonna do |
| 07:02.46 | ckknight | could you describe it? |
| 07:02.46 | anenigma | it was weird to pronounce though |
| 07:03.02 | ckknight | frankly, I consider Computer Science to be a subset of Mathematics |
| 07:03.08 | anenigma | nup, cause i haven't started really |
| 07:03.09 | Kalamadi | I'm in college for Comp Sci under the Security flag, but I've always loved math and programming - I've just been latent in catching up with languages |
| 07:03.10 | ckknight | moreso than it is a subset of the Sciences... |
| 07:03.31 | ckknight | we coded in C++ for the contest (icky, I know) |
| 07:03.34 | anenigma | we did a graph theory subject at uni, i liked it, lecturer said that i did good, and should come do some research over the hols |
| 07:03.36 | ckknight | just imagine if I were able to use lua... |
| 07:03.43 | anenigma | or scheme! |
| 07:03.51 | Kalamadi | My old physics teacher said that math and sciences are the same things represented differently. |
| 07:03.55 | ckknight | how to write a scheme program: |
| 07:03.57 | ckknight | hold shift. |
| 07:04.01 | Xuerian | I must be a enigma... I hate math and yet love programing <_< |
| 07:04.06 | ckknight | press 9 and 0 back and forth frantically. |
| 07:04.09 | ckknight | done. |
| 07:04.11 | anenigma | maths _is_ a science |
| 07:04.16 | anenigma | ckknight: haha, love it :) |
| 07:04.26 | ckknight | Xuerian, you're no enigma. |
| 07:04.37 | anenigma | yeah, i'm anenigma |
| 07:04.45 | Kalamadi | You can use maths to represent sciences, or you can use sciences to prove maths >_> |
| 07:04.45 | Xuerian | ckknight: But, but, I want to be special! |
| 07:04.53 | ckknight | Xuerian, you like discrete mathematics, but not other "normal" kinds. |
| 07:05.13 | ckknight | Kalamadi, I'm still saying CS resembles math more than it does science. |
| 07:05.16 | anenigma | discrete maths is fairly cool |
| 07:05.26 | anenigma | anyway, it's home time here \o/ back in an hour or so |
| 07:05.34 | ckknight | cya. |
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| 07:06.28 | Xuerian | Oooh, I do like discrete mathematics. |
| 07:06.35 | ckknight | see, I was right. |
| 07:06.43 | ckknight | discrete math is great. |
| 07:06.47 | ckknight | my favorite. |
| 07:06.49 | Kalamadi | Anyway. I need to study up for a test this morning, so. |
| 07:06.50 | ckknight | of the maths. |
| 07:07.02 | ckknight | cya, Kalamadi |
| 07:07.16 | Xuerian | Have fun, Kalamadi. And thank you, ckknight. Thank you. XD |
| 07:08.00 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7028 |
| 07:08.18 | Kalamadi | I've a teacher at my college who's big into the programming scene, so I can hit him up for some help if so desired. Now I have a catalyst to help myself learn (though I'm not in any of his programming classes - it's a small school). |
| 07:08.33 | ckknight | oh well, the offer still stands for coming to Hawaii for Fall '07. You're essentially guaranteed a scholorship, and you don't need to even be American, as the school is like 75% foreigners. (Lots of Swedes, too) |
| 07:08.44 | Kalamadi | I'm part Swedish D: |
| 07:08.56 | ckknight | it doesn't matter what race you are |
| 07:09.22 | Kalamadi | I was poking a little fun. Enough distraction! You're all too much fun. |
| 07:09.36 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 07:12.28 | vhaarr | monowall? |
| 07:13.24 | vhaarr | ;) |
| 07:13.57 | Xuerian | ;p |
| 07:14.47 | Xuerian | I like linux, don't get me wrong. I just like my windows apps, and without a computer that can make up for the (often, not always) drop in performance running them emulated (since there's often no equivalent sometimes), it bites... <.< |
| 07:15.09 | Xuerian | s/often no/// |
| 07:15.42 | Xuerian | It's always something :( |
| 07:15.43 | vhaarr | point of monowall and the like is that you install them on some old computer and put it in your basement |
| 07:15.54 | vhaarr | not run it on your desktop computer |
| 07:16.12 | Xuerian | The old computers I'd put in the basement.. are the ones I'm using.. >_> |
| 07:16.25 | vhaarr | :P |
| 07:20.27 | Industrial | get a job RWAR |
| 07:20.28 | Industrial | :P |
| 07:20.39 | Xuerian | Job? Wassat? |
| 07:20.47 | Industrial | ;D |
| 07:21.10 | ckknight | Industrial, :-P |
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| 07:22.28 | Elkano | Ohayô gozaimasu! Tadaima! |
| 07:22.57 | ckknight | hey Elkano |
| 07:23.02 | ckknight | bing bong to you too. |
| 07:23.31 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 07:26.45 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r18336 10Ace2/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - slight optimization in printing |
| 07:28.42 | Kalamadi | Ugh. I hate studying this material |
| 07:28.57 | Kalamadi | It's the Windows XP installation and administration crap which makes no sense whatsoever |
| 07:28.57 | ckknight | what're you studying? |
| 07:29.01 | ckknight | ah. |
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| 07:30.17 | Kalamadi | It has those retarded questions, like "which most commonly causes a windows XP installation to fail?" |
| 07:31.01 | Kalamadi | In which case, I wonder if my human form makes me resemble a statistics parsing engine. |
| 07:31.19 | Greywind | and now its time for cute vidoes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9fBhBQeG94 |
| 07:31.27 | Greywind | err videos! |
| 07:32.12 | Xuerian | Oh so that's how it is |
| 07:32.15 | Kalamadi | Now I want a message =( |
| 07:32.20 | Xuerian | When I want to watch a video of two girls kissing, youtube is down |
| 07:32.30 | Xuerian | When someone posts cutesy links, it's magically up |
| 07:32.34 | Xuerian | GEE THANKS |
| 07:32.41 | Xuerian | ( :P ) |
| 07:32.50 | ckknight | Kalamadi, pebkac |
| 07:33.11 | ckknight | youtube is down? |
| 07:33.15 | Kalamadi | Yes. Apparently my study material is the problem. |
| 07:33.19 | ckknight | but it's... it's owned by google now |
| 07:33.37 | Xuerian | Youtube was down for maintenance a hour or so ago |
| 07:34.25 | ckknight | but now I'm interested in the girl-on-girl makeout scene |
| 07:34.39 | Xuerian | I have the link somewhere :D |
| 07:35.42 | Kalamadi | Well...I should be glad the teacher doesn't hate us. The questions on the test are supposedly multiple-choice. |
| 07:36.34 | Xuerian | http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=&v=BWP2WPuo70Y then this was a interesting link in the comments on digg http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2006/11/top_ten_lady_li.html |
| 07:41.21 | ckknight | that was nice. |
| 07:42.05 | Kalamadi | Today is going to be a good day. |
| 07:43.34 | Xuerian | this so better be worth the 10 to 1 loading time >_> |
| 07:44.24 | Kalamadi | It's like lesbian porn, only not fake. The fact that there is no nudity is a non-issue. |
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| 07:47.58 | Kalamadi | This is nice. I fell asleep early afternoon, so I'm going to be awake all morning. I can hit up the bagelry before I go to school D: |
| 07:49.02 | Kalamadi | They have this cinnamon crunch bagel and some real berry cream cheese...it's delightful. |
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| 07:52.24 | Greywind | Kalamadi: damnit you are making me crave bagels and its only 3 am here so no one is open....grrr |
| 07:53.24 | Kalamadi | Greywind: EST here too. I'm just hungry and don't want to focus on my studying |
| 07:53.49 | Xuerian | popcorrrn. |
| 07:53.59 | Greywind | ok cute attack coming on http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/index.html?large=yes&flow=yes |
| 07:54.02 | Greywind | :P |
| 07:54.17 | Greywind | 56k warning btw :D |
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| 07:56.37 | Elkano | Greywind, burn in hell... ;) |
| 07:57.00 | Elkano | this has to /b/ some crazy shit... |
| 07:57.14 | SP|Sorren | that leaping cat pic |
| 07:57.15 | SP|Sorren | is awesome |
| 07:57.22 | SP|Sorren | i must somehow convert that to a forum icon |
| 07:57.43 | Greywind | Elkano: :P |
| 07:57.59 | Greywind | i must say it is a bit toasty in here :D |
| 08:03.58 | SP|Sorren | now that i've scrolled the page some i realize that there are many, many leaping cats. |
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| 08:06.41 | Xuerian | good LORD greywind! |
| 08:07.26 | Greywind | I must say...this was not what i was looking for when i searched for "pussy" :P |
| 08:07.48 | Kalamadi | Some people search |
| 08:07.48 | Xuerian | ROFL |
| 08:07.51 | Kalamadi | Other /t/ |
| 08:08.58 | Greywind | oh my gnome warlock in beta has the most annoying name evar! Bubbleykins 4tw! |
| 08:09.22 | Greywind | hard to take the npcs seriously when they say my name :P |
| 08:09.23 | Kalamadi | I need to log on to the PTR and test addons, grrr. |
| 08:10.51 | Kalamadi | Argh! PTR client logs my character in 2/5 of the way, then hangs |
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| 08:15.05 | Kalamadi | Yeah. Hard-locked. |
| 08:15.21 | Elkano | Kalamadi, any addons installed? |
| 08:15.46 | Kalamadi | Yes, but none different than when it was working... I'll try that |
| 08:16.35 | Elkano | well, on beta realm they changed buff API during a patch without telling so EBB caused a lockdown :/ |
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| 08:17.08 | sylvanaar | lockup != lockdown |
| 08:17.25 | Kalamadi | Okays, that worked. |
| 08:18.34 | sylvanaar | hmmm...curious, now fix mine magically too |
| 08:19.22 | Elkano | sylvanaar, since I'm not native I'm doomed to fail ;) |
| 08:21.48 | sylvanaar | native what? (confused) |
| 08:22.16 | Kalamadi | Oh crap. My system crashed and I had 500+ tabs up in Firefox... This is going to take forever to update my broken addons |
| 08:23.58 | sylvanaar | mine crashed today into a miserable heap to the sound of a failed hard drive bearing - (sounds somthing like brutal cat torture) |
| 08:24.40 | sylvanaar | raid1 saved wow |
| 08:25.23 | Kalamadi | Two libraries in !!!Libs are still using setn, even though it's marked as being TBC |
| 08:26.10 | Elkano | sylvanaar, native english speaker |
| 08:27.31 | Tekkub | http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=408127 |
| 08:29.53 | SP|Sorren | 500 tabs in FF? |
| 08:30.29 | Kalamadi | Yeah. |
| 08:31.05 | SP|Sorren | i thought i had a lot of tabs at 30 :( |
| 08:31.14 | vhaarr | Tekkub: God dammit, I hate it when people dive in and ruin good comedy with comments like "Funny :-)" |
| 08:33.02 | Kalamadi | Do we have any TBC-compatable HUDs? |
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| 08:49.07 | Kalamadi | Great, now I can't get FB2 working again ;_; |
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| 08:57.08 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18337 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - added The Bone Wastes for frFR |
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| 09:00.41 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r18338 10Ace2/Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: .AceOO-2.0 - fixed interface bug (Thanks, Jerry) |
| 09:01.47 | ckknight | Kodewulf|away, you should stop that... |
| 09:01.53 | [Ammo] | do I have to explicityly unhook securehooks in 1.12? |
| 09:02.05 | [Ammo] | it's constantly comlpaining about stalehooks |
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| 09:02.07 | [Ammo] | when I try to rehook |
| 09:02.14 | ckknight | you shouldn't have to... |
| 09:02.18 | [Ammo] | after disabling enabling a module |
| 09:02.29 | ckknight | granted, we only have 1 week left... |
| 09:02.32 | [Ammo] | it didn't complain when I used Hook( ..., secure) |
| 09:02.43 | [Ammo] | but it complains when I use SecureHook |
| 09:02.47 | [Ammo] | yeah I know |
| 09:03.28 | ckknight | it's probably the bug I already fixed in TBC |
| 09:03.32 | [Ammo] | hmm care to fix it in 1.12? :) |
| 09:03.44 | ckknight | sure, seeing as it's a legitimate bug |
| 09:03.57 | [Ammo] | I hate branching and oRA2's resurrection and cooldown should work in 1.12 and 2.0 now |
| 09:04.15 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:05.31 | ckknight | mmm, [Ammo], sorry, can't find the bug, and the relevant parts are the same in TBC and trunk |
| 09:05.48 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 09:05.57 | [Ammo] | guess I should run some more tests |
| 09:06.02 | [Ammo] | maybe I did something stupid |
| 09:06.15 | ckknight | it could be a bug I'm not seeing |
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| 09:17.02 | CIA-17 | 03elkano 07ebb1_TBC * r18339 10ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar.lua: ElkBuffBar - removed debug output since it seems to be working now :) |
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| 09:28.57 | ckknight_ | Elkano, why not just work on ElkBuffBar2.0? |
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| 09:30.56 | ckknight_ | well, I want to have Cartographer "ready" by Monday |
| 09:31.00 | ckknight_ | I think I can do it |
| 09:33.26 | Kalamadi | WTF. I put 5/5 points in Holy Guidance on my paladin on the PTR and my magic damage did not change |
| 09:33.41 | Kalamadi | It shows up as more +damage on the character pane, but SoR/JoR are unaffected |
| 09:35.26 | Tekkub | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42622405/ |
| 09:35.32 | Tekkub | creepy on so many levels |
| 09:38.41 | Elkano | ckknight, well, I wanted to fix that bug and ebb2 will still take some time (and work by ammo) |
| 09:38.57 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:39.15 | Kalamadi | Yeah... I was running around with my Finkle's Lava Dredger, doing 188-9 damage per hit with SoR + JotC. Got Holy Guidance, same damage, even though I have nearly 100 more +damage |
| 09:39.50 | ckknight | oh wow, I updated FuBar on WoWI 3 months ago. |
| 09:40.48 | Elkano | ckknight, blame svn ;) |
| 09:41.03 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:41.17 | ckknight | no, it's totally my laziness. |
| 09:41.21 | Elkano | ammo, how are the changes to candybar going? ;) |
| 09:41.32 | ckknight | I'm going to be uploading to WoWI on Monday |
| 09:41.37 | ckknight | all of my stuff. |
| 09:41.42 | [Ammo] | elkano: they are not :p |
| 09:41.48 | ckknight | all with TOC: 20000 |
| 09:41.55 | ckknight | unless of course, the patch is postponed. |
| 09:42.06 | [Ammo] | 2.0 is around the corner and that caught my attention |
| 09:42.18 | [Ammo] | I think you might be best off writing your own little AceOO class inside EBB2.0 |
| 09:42.19 | Elkano | wow, eu realms are online ahead of shedule ^^ |
| 09:42.27 | [Ammo] | that can either tick down or be there etc |
| 09:42.30 | [Ammo] | specific for buffs |
| 09:42.46 | Elkano | maybe I'm forced to :( |
| 09:43.21 | [Ammo] | or you could suggest the changes in Candy |
| 09:43.39 | [Ammo] | and with suggest I mean provide .diff :p |
| 09:43.42 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18340 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - assert messages now show the name of the offending plugin. |
| 09:44.07 | ckknight | hrm, well, I think I'm gonna update all my TOCs now so I don't have to later |
| 09:45.08 | [Ammo] | 20k .tocs work fine in 1.12 right? |
| 09:45.15 | Elkano | yes |
| 09:45.31 | ckknight | yea, just gotta set Load-out-of-date |
| 09:45.39 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18341 10!!!Libs/: !!!Libs - removed from trunk, as it is the bane of so many problems. Either use standalones or embeds. |
| 09:45.53 | Elkano | /hug ckknight |
| 09:46.01 | ckknight | I have conquered the demon. |
| 09:46.12 | ckknight | and have eaten its heart to gain its courage. |
| 09:46.29 | Elkano | whatabout the other packages? !!!StandaloneLibs et all |
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| 09:46.39 | nevcairiel | !!!StandaloneLibs is good |
| 09:46.57 | nevcairiel | its used by WUA to download the standalones |
| 09:47.10 | Elkano | well, since I don't use it I can't tell the difference ^ |
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| 09:47.36 | ckknight | !!!StandaloneLibs is a fake dealy. Like how we have GlobalStrings on the trunk as well, it's not a real addon, just handy |
| 09:47.53 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r18342 10BigWigs/ (10 files in 10 dirs): BigWigs: toc bumpage to 20000 it all works in TBC anyway. |
| 09:48.43 | Elkano | the !!! stuff never worked for me anyways ;) |
| 09:50.36 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18343 10AbacusLib/ (Abacus-2.0/Abacus-2.0.lua AbacusLib.toc): |
| 09:50.37 | CIA-17 | AbacusLib - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in 1.12) |
| 09:50.37 | CIA-17 | Fixed version check in lua. |
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| 09:52.08 | Sole | hai u gusy |
| 09:52.28 | Kalamadi | I can't get on the beta forums to see if my issue has been reported. It makes me sad. |
| 09:53.07 | Industrial | Sigh... |
| 09:53.08 | Sole | are you a sad panda? |
| 09:53.21 | Industrial | theres hardly any innovation in addons anymore |
| 09:53.47 | Sole | well a lot of stuff has been done already |
| 09:53.48 | Industrial | its all oskin bottom bar and the circled buttons |
| 09:53.55 | ckknight | Industrial, maybe not innovation in look and feel, but in design. |
| 09:54.01 | Sole | you mean in interfaces |
| 09:54.10 | Industrial | well dah thats what were making right? |
| 09:54.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:54.24 | ckknight | no, I make libraries, mostly. |
| 09:54.38 | Industrial | interfaces* |
| 09:54.40 | Industrial | whine. |
| 09:54.40 | ckknight | on rare occasions will I make something that you can actually see. (e.g. Cartographer) |
| 09:54.46 | Kalamadi | ckknight: Want to poke FB2, get an interface going? D: |
| 09:54.56 | ckknight | interface? |
| 09:55.04 | ckknight | and by FB2, do you mean FuBar or FlexBar? |
| 09:55.14 | Kalamadi | Flexbar, sorry. |
| 09:55.18 | ckknight | confusing. |
| 09:55.27 | Kalamadi | I didn't know there was a FuBar2 |
| 09:55.39 | ckknight | yea, technically FuBar's current version is 2.0 |
| 09:55.47 | ckknight | that was for the Ace2 upgrade |
| 09:56.14 | Industrial | oh oh heres some more ranting |
| 09:56.18 | Sole | yay nice to see the babble-spell ball rolling |
| 09:56.26 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18344 10Babble-2.2/Babble-2.2.toc: Babble-2.2 - updating TOC to 20000. (still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 09:56.38 | ckknight | note: I will not be updating Babble-2.0's TOC |
| 09:56.38 | Industrial | and IF someone wants to make something unique |
| 09:56.38 | Sole | its slowly but surely being updated :) |
| 09:56.40 | Industrial | he always uses discord addons |
| 09:56.45 | Kalamadi | I just rolled my chair over my foot, ow ow ow. |
| 09:56.46 | Industrial | wich renders it useless for everyone else |
| 09:56.49 | Industrial | :| |
| 09:56.53 | Sole | yeah |
| 09:57.02 | Sole | I dont like discord whatsoever |
| 09:57.18 | Industrial | I like SetTexture and SetPoint |
| 09:57.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:57.28 | ckknight | hehe, Industrial |
| 09:57.46 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18345 10CrayonLib/CrayonLib.toc: CrayonLib - updated TOC to 20000. (still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 09:57.54 | Kalamadi | ckknight: Anyway. Flexbar2 seems to be very nearly done, just lacks an interface to work within. |
| 09:58.19 | ckknight | I'm not good at designing interfaces. I'm far too utilitarian and minimalistic |
| 09:58.53 | ckknight | I mean, look at my mods: FuBar (a bar at the top or bottom of the screen), and Cartographer (which just adds to the WorldMapFrame |
| 09:58.56 | ckknight | ) |
| 09:59.34 | Kalamadi | I would work on it myself, but that's outside of my programming knowledge. |
| 09:59.43 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18346 10Deformat/Deformat.toc: Deformat - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 09:59.44 | Industrial | I just started small |
| 09:59.54 | Industrial | and built up from there add bits here minimap there etc |
| 10:00.01 | Industrial | idInterface \o/ |
| 10:00.10 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18347 10DewdropLib/DewdropLib.toc: DewdropLib - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:00.48 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18348 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: FuBar - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:01.20 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18349 10JostleLib/JostleLib.toc: JostleLib - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:01.21 | Kalamadi | Right now, though, I'm working on some slashcommand code to better understand HOW to do things within the addon |
| 10:01.31 | Kalamadi | And my root beer's flat. |
| 10:01.46 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18350 10TabletLib/TabletLib.toc: TabletLib - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:02.00 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18351 10TouristLib/TouristLib.toc: TouristLib - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:02.17 | Sole | wow |
| 10:02.22 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18352 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.toc: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - updated TOC to 20000. (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:02.26 | ckknight | hrm, Sole? |
| 10:02.30 | Sole | "so i switched to nurfed.. WTF why is that an addon lol." - this guy is braggin about Cosmos |
| 10:02.33 | Sole | hai |
| 10:02.38 | ckknight | I'm done for now |
| 10:02.46 | Sole | no not about that ck |
| 10:03.00 | Sole | Im refering to the quote I pasted |
| 10:03.00 | ckknight | telling the others I'm done for now. |
| 10:03.11 | Sole | hokay |
| 10:03.28 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r18353 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: toc to 20k |
| 10:03.44 | ckknight | I'll work on GloryLib now |
| 10:04.50 | Sole | i dont understand something |
| 10:05.04 | Sole | why would someone use Khaos? |
| 10:05.10 | Sole | ingame addon management |
| 10:05.20 | ckknight | some people like it |
| 10:05.34 | Sole | isnt the addons window on the character screen sufficient enough? |
| 10:05.50 | Sole | load/dont load for specific characters, thats all Ive ever needed |
| 10:06.54 | MoonWolf | its a settings thing aswell |
| 10:07.58 | Sole | well I can see that |
| 10:08.17 | Sole | but then I cant help but wonder - why would you use cosmos in the first place? |
| 10:08.27 | MoonWolf | because its easy |
| 10:08.32 | Sole | the cosmos addons look like ass |
| 10:08.32 | MoonWolf | and you don't know better. |
| 10:08.43 | Sole | heh |
| 10:09.21 | Industrial | lol |
| 10:09.22 | ckknight | so does anyone have a link to how the new honor system works? |
| 10:09.28 | Industrial | < Sole> the cosmos addons look like ass |
| 10:09.28 | ckknight | like all the little quirks and such... |
| 10:09.32 | Industrial | lol that read so funn |
| 10:09.35 | Kalamadi | You mean "Kill stuff, get loot"? |
| 10:09.58 | Industrial | just like 'you smell of' :P |
| 10:10.32 | Industrial | omg ive run out of anime to watch |
| 10:10.36 | Industrial | nowai |
| 10:11.14 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r18354 10CandyBar/CandyBar.toc: CandyBar: toc to 20k |
| 10:11.54 | Sole | lewl@indy |
| 10:12.38 | Sole | hah Im so awesome at helping users fix errors |
| 10:12.55 | Sole | my solution to one guy: dont use cosmos, it looks like ass ^_^ |
| 10:13.31 | Industrial | Im so awful with users that I dont like releasing addons |
| 10:13.46 | Industrial | then again im too lazy to make them userfriendly cause they work for me |
| 10:13.58 | Industrial | menu? config? hah! |
| 10:15.05 | Sole | lol |
| 10:15.16 | MoonWolf | i wonder |
| 10:15.19 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-125-178-32.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 10:15.24 | MoonWolf | does cosmos still include sct |
| 10:15.33 | MoonWolf | and if so,is it sct 2 ? |
| 10:15.53 | Kalamadi | Isn't SCT up to, like. 5.0? |
| 10:16.07 | Sole | he means sct ace2 I think |
| 10:16.11 | Sole | which is sct5 |
| 10:16.29 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 10:16.47 | MoonWolf | it would be so ironic, cosmos the enternal enemy of ace... has ace mods. |
| 10:17.10 | MoonWolf | Like microsoft hosting on *nix boxes. |
| 10:17.24 | ckknight | AL wrote a FuBar plugin once... |
| 10:17.40 | ckknight | afaik |
| 10:17.47 | MoonWolf | oooh |
| 10:17.50 | MoonWolf | interesting. |
| 10:17.54 | nevcairiel | ckknight: i discovered an error in tourist data, mana tombs in terrokar forest isnt really 70-71 |
| 10:17.56 | Industrial | hmm |
| 10:18.07 | ckknight | nevcairiel, what is it, then? |
| 10:18.38 | Kalamadi | MoonWolf: Mention not windows. I'm having to endure their cert exam material. |
| 10:18.56 | MoonWolf | I said microsoft and *nix |
| 10:19.06 | MoonWolf | i never said windo... |
| 10:19.30 | Kalamadi | ... |
| 10:19.31 | nevcairiel | ckknight: something like 65-67 or so .. not sure exactly, will check the exact levels next time i go there |
| 10:19.47 | SP|Sorren | i'd say 64-67 for tombs |
| 10:19.49 | ckknight | nevcairiel, when you do, feel free to update it. |
| 10:20.11 | nevcairiel | but the funny thing, its wrong on blizzards world map. |
| 10:21.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 10:21.43 | Sole | hokay gnite |
| 10:27.03 | Srosh | btw, did Blizz finally fix their tooltip code as in it doesn't ungodly increase the KiB/s anymore? |
| 10:27.54 | Worf | i experimented a bit with the new "focus" one can set, and so on... i feel much potential, however i miss documentation and functionality yet... any idea if it could be possible to make one set the focus target by using some modifyer key? (something like shift-klick or so) |
| 10:28.40 | Kalamadi | <= still intends to find some support for a new focus-enabled HUD |
| 10:28.47 | Industrial | http://hellsblade.xs4all.nl:88/anime |
| 10:28.49 | Industrial | Please PM me if you know of any good titles that I haven't seen |
| 10:29.04 | Industrial | RWAR |
| 10:29.18 | MoonWolf | :( no .HACK// |
| 10:29.19 | Worf | Kalamadi: well, i intend to duplicate the target frame... and have a own big frame for the focus unit |
| 10:29.32 | Worf | (unless allready one had done this) |
| 10:29.37 | Kalamadi | Worf: I have a design for the HUD elements in mind |
| 10:30.18 | Industrial | MoonWolf: god no I watched some eps of that and it was kinda lame :| |
| 10:30.31 | Industrial | ooo im in a mmorpg oo player killers |
| 10:30.34 | Industrial | etc |
| 10:30.45 | Kalamadi | Industrial: Haibane Renmei? Serial Experiments Lain? Akira? |
| 10:30.54 | Industrial | seen the last 2 |
| 10:31.00 | Worf | hmm - actually - i wonder if there is any way at all to use modifyer keys (hold shift or something like that) when klicking a unit to make different things happen |
| 10:31.04 | Kalamadi | Ghost in the Shell: SAC, 2nd GIG |
| 10:31.15 | Kalamadi | Hell, all of GitS |
| 10:31.20 | phyber | TETSUUOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 10:31.22 | Srosh | word! |
| 10:31.32 | Kalamadi | KAAAAANEEEEEDAAAAAA! *BOOOOM* |
| 10:31.56 | MoonWolf | damn |
| 10:32.06 | MoonWolf | i know a series you should watch but forgot the name |
| 10:32.15 | Kalamadi | Describe it! |
| 10:32.44 | phyber | Now and Then, Here and There. |
| 10:33.12 | MoonWolf | relativly new, future settings, bliblcal- ish name, about a detective and her robot, and some mysterous monster. |
| 10:33.22 | MoonWolf | thats as far as i got before forgetting about it again. |
| 10:33.42 | Kalamadi | Big O? No. That's not right. |
| 10:34.00 | phyber | 8th Man? |
| 10:34.03 | Mikma | moo |
| 10:34.37 | phyber | Metropolis |
| 10:35.12 | Mikma | mootropolis |
| 10:36.24 | MoonWolf | ill never remember the damn name |
| 10:36.45 | Industrial | there im pulling full down half upspeed again :> |
| 10:37.02 | Industrial | gunna watch hellsing, AGAIN :P |
| 10:37.55 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18355 10GloryLib/ (Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc): |
| 10:37.55 | CIA-17 | GloryLib - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:37.55 | CIA-17 | No longer checks last week's stats if in WoW 2.0 |
| 10:37.55 | MoonWolf | lol |
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| 10:40.41 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18356 10FuBar_AmmoFu/FuBar_AmmoFu.toc: FuBar_AmmoFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:41.29 | XLVII | does anyone know what sairans website is? |
| 10:42.21 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18357 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFu.lua FuBar_BagFu.toc): FuBar_BagFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
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| 10:42.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 10:42.36 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18358 10FuBar_ClockFu/FuBar_ClockFu.toc: FuBar_ClockFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:43.07 | SP|Sorren | AmmoFu, that's what i've been missing. |
| 10:43.11 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18359 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc: FuBar_DurabilityFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:44.05 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18360 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc: FuBar_ExperienceFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:44.20 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18361 10FuBar_LocationFu/FuBar_LocationFu.toc: FuBar_LocationFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:44.31 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18362 10FuBar_MoneyFu/FuBar_MoneyFu.toc: FuBar_MoneyFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:44.59 | phyber | bah, when I did that everyone complained ;) |
| 10:45.00 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18363 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc: FuBar_TopScoreFu - updated TOC to 20000 (Still works in WoW 1.12) |
| 10:45.50 | ckknight_ | phyber, now we have a release date within a week. |
| 10:46.01 | Mikma | massupdate! |
| 10:46.30 | Kalamadi | ckknight_: How are you certain the patch is being released on Tuesday? |
| 10:46.30 | nevcairiel | was that confirmed? |
| 10:46.31 | Mikma | svn co --ignore-externals http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk |
| 10:46.32 | Mikma | kekekeeke |
| 10:46.38 | Mikma | yes it's confirmed |
| 10:46.46 | Mikma | 5th december |
| 10:46.48 | nevcairiel | blue somewhere to quote into guild forum? |
| 10:46.56 | phyber | cool. |
| 10:47.06 | Kalamadi | Time to get cracking on a viable FB2 interface D: |
| 10:47.13 | Nargiddley | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51145118&sid=1 |
| 10:47.22 | phyber | have you seen this new stats page on WoW US? |
| 10:47.25 | ckknight_ | thank you, Nargiddley |
| 10:47.35 | phyber | Onyxia is the 3rd most dangerous mob |
| 10:47.47 | phyber | after Vael and Drek'Thar (?) |
| 10:47.59 | Mikma | not true :( |
| 10:48.07 | Kalamadi | Drek'Thar is the Horde boss in AV |
| 10:48.14 | phyber | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/toplist/index.html?en,killedby |
| 10:48.17 | phyber | ahh |
| 10:48.22 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r18364 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - backporting to WoW 1.12 |
| 10:48.44 | Mikma | eye of c'thun, 559th |
| 10:48.47 | Kalamadi | It doesn't seem like all the bugs are gone, yet |
| 10:49.12 | Kalamadi | There are still issues with Seal of Righteousness for paladins (at least evident on the PTR) |
| 10:49.13 | phyber | hah, Soul Shard is the number 1 created item. |
| 10:50.16 | Srosh | still 1 week to fix! |
| 10:51.59 | Kalamadi | Do we have any paladins here in the beta that can confirm whether or not Holy Guidance properly affects Seal of Righteousness? |
| 10:52.23 | Mikma | svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 10:52.23 | Mikma | svn: Target path does not exist |
| 10:52.25 | Mikma | rock rock! |
| 10:54.40 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18365 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc PerformanceFu.lua): FuBar_PerformanceFu - merged in TBC branch to trunk. |
| 10:57.30 | Mikma | hey, what has happened to !!!Libs in Trunk? |
| 10:57.47 | Mikma | right |
| 10:58.00 | nevcairiel | ckk purged it |
| 10:58.10 | Mikma | aka not cool. |
| 10:58.11 | ckknight_ | it has been slain |
| 10:58.21 | ckknight_ | I have collected 1 Silver, 29 Copper |
| 10:58.46 | ckknight | Mikma, use standalones or embeds. |
| 10:58.59 | ckknight | !!!Libs has caused too many issues. |
| 10:59.21 | Mikma | well i think i'll just make a new in my local system |
| 10:59.23 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | !!!Libs has been purged. Use standalones or embeds instead. |
| 10:59.47 | ckknight | using standalones will be the best solution for dev-style peoples |
| 11:00.06 | nevcairiel | i really need to update HotCandy for TBC |
| 11:00.07 | Mikma | yeh but i don't wan't to have 200 addons in my game |
| 11:00.08 | nevcairiel | i miss it. |
| 11:00.41 | ckknight | Mikma, it doesn't matter and you know it. |
| 11:00.49 | ckknight | there is _no use_ in bitching about this |
| 11:01.13 | ckknight | HotCandy? |
| 11:01.13 | Mikma | that's why i'll make my own collection for now on |
| 11:01.25 | nevcairiel | it displays duration of HoTs |
| 11:02.24 | nevcairiel | especially with lifebloom, i miss it. |
| 11:02.39 | ckknight | Mikma, alright, but it doesn't belong on SVN. Just know that in advance |
| 11:02.55 | Mikma | ckknight: i'm not blind: <1145> <CIA-17> ckknight * r18341 !!!Libs/: !!!Libs - removed from trunk, as it is the bane of so many problems. Either use standalones or embeds. |
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| 11:10.23 | Mikma | oh sweet, now i can get rid of the extra crap in the !!!Libs |
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| 11:19.46 | Tekkub | http://fchan.hentaiplanet.net/src/a_1163228975830.zinacat_bunnyfoofoo.jpg |
| 11:19.50 | Industrial | actually ckknight I dont think its your decision to make wether something belongs on the svn or not |
| 11:20.09 | Industrial | but im staying out of this one, as I agree that !!!Libs is crap |
| 11:20.11 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:20.31 | Tekkub | gee someone removed it from /Files too *whistle* |
| 11:21.10 | phyber | Tekkub: hehe |
| 11:29.56 | Jens | How big is the BC client? |
| 11:30.08 | Jens | How much do I need to download, I mean. |
| 11:30.28 | odt | all of it probably |
| 11:30.36 | Jens | [insert rant about stupid VIA controller not playing nice with new 300gb hdd] |
| 11:30.52 | Jens | all of it == ? gb |
| 11:31.02 | phyber | [insert comment about buying a new motherboard and dropping an xbox on the old one] |
| 11:31.03 | Mikma | 4 |
| 11:31.32 | Jens | [insert rant about insufficient fund, and another about having to replace most components] |
| 11:31.32 | Mikma | Jens: that was for you. with all patches and stuff |
| 11:31.44 | Jens | Damn it. Need to delete stuff. |
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| 11:31.55 | Nargiddley | was a 1.9gb download for me, then about 400mb of patches |
| 11:32.26 | Mikma | 1.9? mine was 3gb :P |
| 11:32.27 | Nargiddley | bc folder is 7.5gb atm |
| 11:32.30 | Jens | Hmm... I think I have a little over 2 gb free. Then I can boot server box and move random crap over when I get home. |
| 11:33.21 | Jens | Next on todo: Point and laugh at guildies with no BC account :P |
| 11:34.40 | Jens | Hmm... now downloader says it's 2.13 GB. I've got 2.18 free :) |
| 11:34.56 | Jens | Had to order PCI SATA controller, because VIA is stupid, and it isn't due for another couple of days. |
| 11:35.15 | Jens | So I've got a 320 GB disk sitting on my desk looking pretty. |
| 11:36.06 | Mikma | Nargiddley: 8122548 :D (8.1gb) |
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| 11:36.33 | Jens | Hmm... isn't there a .torrent file somewhere I can load in Azureus, for great justice? |
| 11:37.19 | Amro | there was one for wow beta, dunno about tbc |
| 11:38.11 | Jens | Now remote desktop is lagged to hell :( |
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| 11:41.44 | Kalamadi | Blargh. Have to finish this review material >_< |
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| 11:44.17 | Elkano | Jens, use wowtorrentextractor ^^ |
| 11:46.38 | Jens | I'm interested in your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. |
| 11:46.50 | Kalamadi | Elkano uses RSS. |
| 11:47.05 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 11:47.37 | Elkano | ah ^^ it's linked on wikipedia search for blizzard |
| 11:47.59 | Jens | There's one google hit for it... in poland. |
| 11:48.31 | Elkano | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Downloader <-- maybe I remembered it correct |
| 11:48.50 | Jens | RDP unusable. |
| 11:50.11 | Jens | Hmm, you can hex edit it out. |
| 11:51.25 | Elkano | well, there should also be a link to a programm doing that |
| 11:53.02 | Jens | Oh right. |
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| 12:00.13 | Mikma | heh my !!!AIO will be tidy and clean :) |
| 12:01.19 | Jens | Ah... Azureus. |
| 12:01.24 | Jens | For great justic. |
| 12:01.52 | Jens | Blizzard developers must have gotten more than their usual dose of crack when they made their downloader. |
| 12:05.40 | Elkano | well, iirc they changed some things in the newest version |
| 12:12.14 | Jens | Only getting ~75 kb/s still :/ |
| 12:13.56 | odt | i found the .torrent in the cache directory |
| 12:13.59 | odt | worked fine with rtorrent |
| 12:14.08 | odt | no hacking required |
| 12:14.26 | odt | but that was for the prepatch data i think |
| 12:15.29 | Jens | Doesn't look like I'll be playing when I get home from school, unless this picks up speed. |
| 12:15.45 | Jens | No cache directory here. I used that trick ffor prepatch too. |
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| 12:20.01 | Srosh | bah, beta forums still down =| |
| 12:20.10 | phyber | Will it be possible to kill Illidan in the Burning Crusade? |
| 12:20.11 | phyber | Illidan doesn't think so. As a matter of fact, he's probably thinking about destroying your character for simply entertaining the thought. |
| 12:20.15 | phyber | hehe |
| 12:20.25 | [Ammo] | blurgh |
| 12:20.32 | [Ammo] | that was one massive lunch |
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| 12:27.34 | Jens | Over 350 kb/s now... gues there's a lot of patches to download after that. |
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| 12:30.28 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r18366 10Capping/ (9 files): |
| 12:30.28 | CIA-17 | Capping |
| 12:30.28 | CIA-17 | - Lua 5.1 update |
| 12:30.28 | CIA-17 | - Option to block Silithus/EPL battlegroup map |
| 12:30.28 | CIA-17 | - Option to show class color indicators on scoreboard |
| 12:30.28 | CIA-17 | - New local texture, steel (removed waves) |
| 12:30.30 | CIA-17 | - SurfaceLib and SupplyAndDemand support |
| 12:30.38 | Srosh | <Jens> Blizzard developers must have gotten more than their usual dose of crack when they made their downloader. <--- well, you have to keep in mind that it's not intended to work at max speed (tho it would be nice if it gave the throttling control into the user's hands) |
| 12:31.51 | odt | is is possible to not have xrs/ora2/bigwigs enable on bg raids? |
| 12:32.06 | odt | but still do that automatically for normal raids? |
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| 12:33.13 | [Ammo] | odt: no |
| 12:33.33 | [Ammo] | a raid is a raid |
| 12:33.46 | [Ammo] | but you can disable oRA2 and BigWigs by ctrl-alt-click on the plugin |
| 12:34.07 | Thelin | are there already any raid interfaces which work on 2.0? |
| 12:34.12 | [Ammo] | agUF |
| 12:34.14 | Jens | Srosh: At least .torrent files are readily availble for use in third part bittorrent clients now. |
| 12:34.19 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r18367 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: TouristLib: fixed Instance levels for Auchindoun |
| 12:34.28 | Srosh | indeed |
| 12:34.39 | Thelin | after the patch is announce, i get a bit itchy, none of the raid interfaces has yet come up with a beta version |
| 12:34.51 | CIA-17 | 03totalpackage * r18368 10InFlight/ (Frame.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc): |
| 12:34.51 | CIA-17 | InFlight: |
| 12:34.52 | CIA-17 | - Removed confirmation for saving flight data, now has port detection |
| 12:34.52 | CIA-17 | - Oh yea, now has a wowace wiki page (see .toc) |
| 12:35.36 | CIA-17 | 03mcc * r18369 10Bartender2_Circled/locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 12:35.36 | CIA-17 | Bartender2_Circled: |
| 12:35.36 | CIA-17 | - Added Chinese traditional translation |
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| 12:37.16 | MoonWolf | Industrial, remember that anime I could not remember the name off ? |
| 12:38.08 | Hjalte | New beta build out today? |
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| 12:40.17 | nevcairiel | no beta update on the realms yet |
| 12:40.34 | Mikma | gah |
| 12:40.41 | Mikma | svn is stuck again |
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| 12:44.52 | CIA-17 | 03mcc * r18370 10Bartender2_Circled/Bartender2_Circled.toc: |
| 12:44.53 | CIA-17 | Bartender2_Circled: |
| 12:44.53 | CIA-17 | - Forget to modify toc sorry ><" |
| 12:45.46 | MoonWolf | evil mmc |
| 12:47.58 | nevcairiel | evil MoonWolf, its mcc |
| 12:48.13 | Srosh | stupid beta forums >< |
| 12:48.28 | [Ammo] | haha |
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| 12:52.22 | Industrial | MoonWolf: yesh? |
| 12:53.05 | Industrial | brb going to get some candy and energy drink |
| 12:53.08 | Industrial | feed my addiction |
| 12:53.21 | MoonWolf | Its called "Ergo proxy" |
| 12:53.25 | MoonWolf | its pretty awesome. |
| 12:53.28 | Industrial | (yet my teeth are fine :P) |
| 12:53.29 | Industrial | k |
| 12:53.32 | MoonWolf | need to watch more of it. |
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| 12:58.28 | haste | MoonWolf: Ergo Proxy is pretty godly :D |
| 12:58.32 | haste | too bad it's finished :( |
| 12:58.45 | haste | MoonWolf: Seen Death note? |
| 12:58.47 | MoonWolf | good that means i can actually watch all of it |
| 12:58.50 | MoonWolf | no |
| 12:59.17 | haste | It's pretty good, even though it sounds lame |
| 12:59.31 | MoonWolf | righto |
| 12:59.44 | haste | It's a running serie tho', if you dislike that |
| 13:00.09 | MoonWolf | no, but i don't have a lot of time so catching up is hard. |
| 13:00.42 | haste | ah, know how that is |
| 13:00.47 | DrZoot | can anyone explain the difference between OnInitialize and OnEnable for me? I cant seem to find any docs on when they get called in the load sequence |
| 13:00.49 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r18371 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (. addon.lua): Cartographer_Herbalism - added TBC stuff from branches |
| 13:00.52 | haste | which is why I have a script that downloads for me :3 |
| 13:01.18 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.28 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r18372 10Cartographer_Mining/ (. addon.lua): Cartographer_Mining - added TBC stuff from branches |
| 13:01.30 | MoonWolf | talk about automation |
| 13:01.53 | MoonWolf | btw, haste I'm going to need to talk to you and / or ammo when i get back home. |
| 13:02.28 | haste | oRA2 is ammo :) |
| 13:03.35 | MoonWolf | it still has an o in front of it :P |
| 13:03.46 | haste | That's 'cause he hasn't changed it :p |
| 13:04.33 | MoonWolf | I know but yeah, ill catch him. |
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| 13:05.51 | nevcairiel | oRA -> aRA ? :P |
| 13:06.04 | MoonWolf | i prefer oRA |
| 13:06.26 | haste | someone suggested openRA a while ago |
| 13:06.26 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 13:06.38 | haste | or soemthing similar at least |
| 13:06.42 | Srosh | never change a running system :p |
| 13:06.54 | nevcairiel | never change a product name |
| 13:06.59 | nevcairiel | decide on one and stick to it |
| 13:07.00 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:08.28 | haste | but I suck at naming :( |
| 13:08.41 | nevcairiel | o<what-it-does> ? |
| 13:08.51 | Mikma | oRly |
| 13:09.15 | Funkeh` | lol mikma |
| 13:09.23 | MoonWolf | Best name you made is oApplication |
| 13:09.31 | Mikma | haste: i think it was [Ammo] who sais openRA |
| 13:09.33 | haste | oWHATHEHELLDIDYOUJUSTRYTODO > oRly |
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| 13:12.37 | Industrial | oRly lol. |
| 13:13.55 | Industrial | id<what-it-does> has always worked for me |
| 13:14.03 | Mikma | idWanker |
| 13:14.21 | Industrial | yeah but thats no an add-on that standard |
| 13:14.30 | Industrial | :3 |
| 13:14.30 | Funkeh` | idHaxx |
| 13:14.36 | Mikma | idDoesWank |
| 13:15.26 | Industrial | idTrollWare |
| 13:15.39 | Funkeh` | ill buy that |
| 13:15.47 | Industrial | its easy, its fun. buy it now! |
| 13:15.54 | Industrial | american telsell >_> |
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| 13:17.34 | Industrial | seriously who is going to believe that some shock-giving belt will make you fit? you need to use gell and i bet it hurts (and what about using it wrong:P) |
| 13:17.59 | Funkeh` | and it should be called oRLyGel |
| 13:18.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:18.02 | Industrial | if you want your lardass lard-ass to have less lard then get off your couch! |
| 13:18.53 | Industrial | ofcource having someone scream at you if you do it wrong helps |
| 13:19.00 | Industrial | :p |
| 13:19.50 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 13:19.55 | Industrial | meh way offtopic |
| 13:19.57 | Industrial | lo josh |
| 13:20.25 | Funkeh` | idScream |
| 13:22.49 | Mikma | idLol |
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| 13:33.06 | haste | Mikma: http://mkv.pp.fi/poikamiesboxi/ |
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| 13:34.27 | Fritti | that's sick |
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| 13:35.52 | Mikma | haste: you know what the url says? |
| 13:36.37 | haste | nope :D |
| 13:36.45 | Fritti | very dirty person? |
| 13:36.52 | Mikma | "singlemanapartment" |
| 13:36.59 | Mikma | single man apartment ... |
| 13:37.04 | haste | :3 |
| 13:37.11 | Fritti | lol |
| 13:42.53 | Iceroth | anyone got a nice clean sample code for me on how to handle unit frame clicks in 2.0? |
| 13:43.08 | JoshBorke | OnClick do stuff? |
| 13:43.28 | Iceroth | well how do i target an unit for example? |
| 13:43.38 | nevcairiel | onclick is basicly handled by the SecureTemplates |
| 13:43.45 | nevcairiel | you need to SetAttribute the unit before |
| 13:44.09 | Iceroth | yeah i've done that but i still can't figure how to get the template to really execute the click code |
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| 13:47.22 | MoonWolf | ~infeciency |
| 13:49.10 | Wobin | ~inefficiency ? |
| 13:49.21 | MoonWolf | nevermind. |
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| 13:51.47 | CIA-17 | 03pettigrow * r18373 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: frFR Update |
| 13:52.17 | CIA-17 | 03tazmanyak * r18374 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: |
| 13:52.17 | CIA-17 | Cartographer_Herbalism |
| 13:52.17 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.25 | Jens | Hmm... sorting addons for BC beta is going to be "fun". |
| 13:54.19 | nevcairiel | just wait a week |
| 13:54.23 | nevcairiel | and sort for 2.0 live |
| 13:54.47 | Jens | Meh, etc. |
| 13:55.13 | odt | which do u guys prefer, fubar_trackerfu or fubar_pursuefu |
| 13:55.23 | Mikma | yes |
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| 13:56.30 | Lateria | Hi there, got a (stupid i think) question about rosterlib event... is there any way to handle only join/leave event... not all |
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| 14:14.59 | Iceroth | ha, finally got a hang of this thing |
| 14:15.12 | Industrial | welcome to irc Iceroth |
| 14:15.49 | Iceroth | i meant this attribute setting to secure templates but thanks anyway ;) |
| 14:22.18 | Industrial | Iceroth: where the men are men, the women are men, and the boys are fbi agents. but some of the men are really women. |
| 14:23.01 | Iceroth | :-| |
| 14:23.39 | Industrial | <3 bash.org |
| 14:23.53 | Industrial | Once I went to bash.org |
| 14:28.15 | [Ammo] | odt: there is already a fubar_trackerfu |
| 14:28.23 | [Ammo] | odt: so I suggest you go with whatever other name you want |
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| 14:42.22 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: any news on combine? ^_^ |
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| 14:48.13 | odt | [Ammo]: i meant, which of those 2 fubar plugins would 1 recommend |
| 14:50.31 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r18375 10BigWigs/ZG/ (8 files): |
| 14:50.31 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: ZG: |
| 14:50.31 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.31 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.03 | Mahiro | hi |
| 14:52.10 | haste | odt: Here's another tips: try them both, use whatever you like |
| 14:52.11 | [Ammo] | odt: I use FuBar_TrackerFu |
| 14:52.17 | [Ammo] | not sure what PursueFu does |
| 14:53.09 | Mahiro | you have any idea if totem addons like gotwood or callofelements will work in tbc? |
| 14:53.38 | Hjalte | Latest Fubar and oRA2 are missing libs :( |
| 14:53.42 | haste | they will |
| 14:53.49 | haste | with minor modifications I would guess |
| 14:54.06 | Mahiro | ok, thats some good news^^ |
| 14:55.19 | Mahiro | does someone has a dw shaman in the beta? |
| 14:56.29 | Mahiro | or knows if they suck as much as on the ptr?^^ |
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| 14:56.44 | Iceroth | hmm.. addons that show additional info in the tooltip when you are tracking humanoids can't work in 2.0 either? |
| 14:56.58 | JoshBorke | why not? |
| 14:57.16 | Iceroth | they target those ppl by name? |
| 14:57.32 | JoshBorke | then they won't work |
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| 14:59.24 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r18376 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - Ancient Lichen now shows the correct icon |
| 15:00.58 | Kaelten | gmorning people :) |
| 15:01.18 | Grine | lolnub Kaelten |
| 15:01.30 | Grine | <--Bored with saying hi to ppl |
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| 15:02.13 | Kaelten | I'm not a nub |
| 15:02.15 | CIA-17 | 03tristan * r18377 10Tankalyze/Core.lua: |
| 15:02.15 | CIA-17 | Tankalyze: |
| 15:02.15 | CIA-17 | - Just some prework regarding icons, nothing visible yet |
| 15:02.21 | Kaelten | I'm not evena noob.... I swear!!!!! |
| 15:02.37 | Mahiro | i am:( |
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| 15:03.00 | Grine | I is noob |
| 15:03.08 | Grine | damn I hate work... |
| 15:03.26 | Grine | I always get lots of great ideas but when I get home I'm too tired to realize them |
| 15:05.20 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r18378 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Herbalism.toc Cartographer_Mining.toc): Cartographer_Mining - toc problems -.- |
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| 15:08.33 | Mikma | moo |
| 15:08.39 | Mikma | hot bath > all |
| 15:09.08 | Grine | anyone involved in PerformanceFu around? |
| 15:10.14 | cncfanatics | how can I get the texture of a spell knowing its name ? |
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| 15:11.13 | haste | cncfanatics: spellbook? |
| 15:12.34 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r18379 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Herbalism.toc Cartographer_Mining.toc addon.lua): Cartographer_Mining - mixed up files... |
| 15:12.49 | cncfanatics | I just know the name of a spell, thats it, so i'd have to scan the spellbook ? -.- |
| 15:12.59 | cncfanatics | that sucks bleh |
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| 15:13.49 | haste | well, in 2.0 it's sent with the spellcast |
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| 15:14.19 | Hjalte | Grine: When ckknight comes online, bug him about it.. I also get the error :) |
| 15:14.29 | cncfanatics | I don't need it with the cast unfortunatly |
| 15:14.41 | Silviu- | Grine revert to older version :) |
| 15:14.42 | cncfanatics | need it when the spell is set on the actionbar with the secure spell attribute |
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| 15:15.06 | sbu | uhm |
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| 15:17.00 | Jens | Is Cenarion Belt for 160g a good deal? |
| 15:17.09 | Jens | Likely to sell for more? |
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| 15:18.04 | CIA-17 | 03gandharva * r18380 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - Ancient Lichen now shows the correct icon |
| 15:18.10 | Mikma | haste: new addons? |
| 15:18.22 | sbu | hmm |
| 15:18.35 | sbu | what addon draws coordinates on my worldmap? :/ |
| 15:18.55 | sbu | i want to use cartographer coords but there are already coords :/ |
| 15:19.00 | Silviu- | Cartographer |
| 15:19.07 | Mikma | sbu: locationfu |
| 15:19.09 | sbu | ah |
| 15:19.10 | Silviu- | Or an older version of LocationFu |
| 15:19.10 | sbu | k |
| 15:19.21 | Silviu- | Mikma an older the newest nop :) |
| 15:19.25 | Silviu- | ckk deleted the code |
| 15:19.26 | Silviu- | :P |
| 15:21.10 | sbu | hm yep, coords are gone w/ new locationfu, thx :) |
| 15:21.18 | CIA-17 | 03bhattu 07TBC * r18381 10Chronometer/Chronometer/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:21.18 | CIA-17 | Chronometer: TBC Branch |
| 15:21.18 | CIA-17 | - Remove stuff from my locale file that has been added to Babble-Spell |
| 15:21.19 | CIA-17 | - Add racials for Draenei and BloodElf |
| 15:21.19 | CIA-17 | - Remove some old code (like click-to-recast, which can't work anymore) |
| 15:21.21 | CIA-17 | - I'm sure this will still get some false bars... I need to do a better job of figuring out the new UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events |
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| 15:31.07 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 15:31.31 | cncfanatics | item textures are nil at the player_login event |
| 15:31.31 | cncfanatics | when are they set ? |
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| 15:36.08 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: try after Ace_FullyInitialized |
| 15:36.18 | Kaelten | I might have the name slightly off though |
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| 15:38.04 | cncfanatics | Ace_FullyInitialized triggers after loading all addons at player_login anyway |
| 15:38.22 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: it also waits for a few other things. |
| 15:38.23 | [Ammo] | AceEvent_FullyInitialized it is |
| 15:38.36 | [Ammo] | but there might be a proper ingame event to watch for |
| 15:38.38 | Kaelten | so they might be available at that point |
| 15:38.47 | Kaelten | ya I'm really not sure though. |
| 15:39.04 | Kaelten | doesn't Bag_Update fire alot on load? |
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| 15:49.44 | Nickenyfiken | hmm addons in trunk already converted to wow 2.x? |
| 15:49.52 | nevcairiel | some |
| 15:50.13 | Nickenyfiken | PerformanceFu died in vanilla today |
| 15:51.22 | Mikma | yay |
| 15:51.33 | Mikma | (put the [x] on ;) |
| 15:51.40 | nevcairiel | yeah ckk ported the 2.0 branch in there |
| 15:53.37 | Nickenyfiken | i really do hope 2.0 comes next week |
| 15:56.36 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 15:56.38 | nevcairiel | was blue posted |
| 15:56.39 | nevcairiel | 5.12 |
| 15:57.06 | Grine | nevcairiel still a prelim date |
| 15:57.30 | nevcairiel | the announcement looked somewhat final tho |
| 15:57.35 | nevcairiel | and i am an optimist |
| 15:57.36 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:58.08 | Nickenyfiken | ok i trust in your judgement nevcairiel |
| 15:59.16 | nevcairiel | man, i love Lifebloom, cant wait to get 64 on live. |
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| 16:00.47 | sbu | hmpf |
| 16:00.47 | sbu | i dont like 'my' healers :/ they dont believe that they cant use decursive anymore :/ |
| 16:01.59 | Nickenyfiken | sbu: get new healers that know how to play then |
| 16:01.59 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r18382 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (TrainerFu.lua modules/Trainer.lua): FuBar_TrainerFu: Added pairs() to all loops missing it. |
| 16:03.04 | Nickenyfiken | uhm what more changes can i do to make it lua 5.1 compatible without breaking vanilla? |
| 16:03.45 | sbu | Nickenyfiken: *sigh* |
| 16:03.50 | sbu | same with emergency monitor |
| 16:03.52 | sbu | (ctra) |
| 16:04.32 | sbu | hmmmmm |
| 16:04.39 | sbu | what about sRaidFrames? |
| 16:04.56 | sbu | will they work? (with debuff-coloring?) |
| 16:05.01 | nevcairiel | will break |
| 16:05.06 | nevcairiel | but could be repaired. |
| 16:05.27 | sbu | but debuff coloring wont work i guess? |
| 16:05.34 | nevcairiel | it will work |
| 16:05.44 | nevcairiel | you can change the color and all |
| 16:05.53 | nevcairiel | you only cannot change the functionality |
| 16:06.15 | Nickenyfiken | if addons like decursive would have been broken from the beginning no one would wine about it |
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| 16:09.36 | sbu | nevcairiel: ah you can change colors but not other attributes? (size, position, ...) |
| 16:09.39 | sbu | ok thats nice |
| 16:09.53 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:10.23 | sbu | so i can use sRaidFrames for decuring :o |
| 16:11.56 | nevcairiel | agUF is still buging in BC .. |
| 16:12.18 | nevcairiel | i tried to look at agUF code, but its so weird :D |
| 16:12.26 | nevcairiel | at least if you dont know it |
| 16:13.15 | Mikma | nevcairiel: the coder is weird ;) |
| 16:13.40 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r18383 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - update koKR local |
| 16:14.37 | pastamancer | aww, aguf's code isn't that strange |
| 16:15.21 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3176.msg62268#msg62268 |
| 16:15.31 | nevcairiel | but its still full of secure template bugs :/ |
| 16:16.36 | nevcairiel | somewhat understandable if you try to directly port an old addon to the new templates |
| 16:17.52 | nevcairiel | i even thought about creating my own, very simplistic Unitframe with only the ABF skin and how i like it |
| 16:19.31 | sbu | nevcairiel: well - mikma is weird too ;p |
| 16:19.40 | Mikma | no i'm not, it's pink |
| 16:21.00 | nevcairiel | sbu: i know |
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| 16:48.18 | CIA-17 | 03daklu 07Daklu * r18384 10FuBar_DakSmak/ (DakSmak.lua changelog.txt): |
| 16:48.18 | CIA-17 | FuBar_DakSmak v0.7.8 |
| 16:48.19 | CIA-17 | - Added summarize option |
| 16:48.19 | CIA-17 | - Added +ToHit penalty for dual weilding |
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| 16:58.51 | Azurewrath | mhm... where was that UTF converter again? Need the code for the char "ß" |
| 17:00.55 | CIA-17 | 03kaybe * r18385 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: updated german translation |
| 17:02.21 | odt | i'm getting an # unexpected symbol error on the latest performancefu |
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| 17:03.57 | odt | line 192 |
| 17:04.47 | odt | local num = #t |
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| 17:04.52 | odt | what should be there? |
| 17:05.39 | pastamancer | 1.12? |
| 17:05.53 | nevcairiel | table.getn(t) |
| 17:06.25 | Xuerian | If you're on the live servers, then you need to use a older version (or change all things lua5.1 back to 5.0 procedure) |
| 17:06.41 | odt | oh k, it's not saying it's supposed to work in 1.12 as the other updated fubar addons |
| 17:06.58 | Xuerian | Some of them do, but ck has stopped supporting 1.12 |
| 17:07.12 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r18386 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridLocale-frFR.lua GridRange.lua): |
| 17:07.12 | CIA-17 | Grid: |
| 17:07.12 | CIA-17 | - Added frFR translation. |
| 17:07.12 | CIA-17 | - Range check spellbook scanning now ignores spells without a range on the tooltip (Battle Shout) |
| 17:07.30 | odt | well, if i get it working i'm not gonna touch any addons til after the patch anyway |
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| 17:10.30 | Nickenyfiken | odt: i tried to change to table.getn() but i just got another error |
| 17:10.33 | odt | me too |
| 17:10.35 | odt | on the next line |
| 17:10.40 | Nickenyfiken | yup |
| 17:10.53 | Nickenyfiken | i just disabled it for now |
| 17:10.59 | odt | the whole for? |
| 17:10.59 | Nickenyfiken | i can live without it for a week |
| 17:11.02 | pastamancer | just go back to an older version |
| 17:11.08 | odt | yeah, i guess i'll do that |
| 17:11.14 | odt | just dont know which to pick |
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| 17:11.32 | Nickenyfiken | i had no problems after updating last night |
| 17:11.48 | Mikma | ~emulate ckknight |
| 17:11.49 | purl | f*ck you, guy |
| 17:12.10 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 17:13.09 | Neebler | ~emulate Mikma |
| 17:13.11 | purl | cryogen is an assclown. |
| 17:13.16 | Eternally777 | Has anyone else experienced an issue with Prat where the fontsize would temporarily reset to 12 after closing the Interface Options window? |
| 17:13.34 | odt | well, ckknight's clockfu still works in 1.12 :) |
| 17:14.24 | cryogen | o_O |
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| 17:24.33 | sbu | Xuerian: xloot* working in 2.0? |
| 17:24.55 | Prophy|work | anyone know if Winaceupdater will update TBC mods? |
| 17:25.25 | Xuerian | sbu: Has been since before it officially existed. :) |
| 17:26.35 | sbu | Xuerian: uh. ok ;) |
| 17:26.37 | Mikma | AKX: when will you code DreamChat more? |
| 17:26.44 | sbu | you coded for 2.0? |
| 17:26.50 | AKX | Mikma, when I cba? |
| 17:26.58 | Mikma | AKX: ok, now. |
| 17:27.02 | AKX | Reading chem |
| 17:27.40 | sbu | Xuerian: uhm |
| 17:27.52 | sbu | XLoot.compat = string.find(GetBuildInfo(), "^2%.") <-- does that really work? |
| 17:28.20 | sbu | i ehm hm |
| 17:28.31 | sbu | you have GetBuildInfo AND lua51? |
| 17:28.41 | Xuerian | sbu, did you write the mod? :P |
| 17:28.53 | Xuerian | If you're on the ptr, check enable 2.0 compat in advanced |
| 17:29.00 | sbu | ahhh :) |
| 17:29.19 | sbu | ok, got some errors with that GetBuildInfo (another mod) on PTR |
| 17:29.21 | Xuerian | It detects 1.12, 2.0.2, but not 2.0.1 due to the way they versioned the build :) |
| 17:29.26 | sbu | thats why i asked :) |
| 17:29.48 | Xuerian | Heh. |
| 17:36.06 | Srosh | PTR's build is always 0.0.1, isn't it? |
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| 17:39.00 | Laric | why is !!!libs gone? |
| 17:39.37 | Silviu- | !!!Libs has been purged. Use standalones or embeds instead.' |
| 17:39.55 | Laric | yeah I saw that.. doesnt say why though :P |
| 17:40.27 | Prophy | anyone use Winaceupdater have a problem where it stops checking for updaters after half of the mods are checked for updates? |
| 17:41.23 | Somani | Question: I have deleted the embedded Libs cuz at 10k Files, WoW needs 2-3min to start -.- - so how shoud i save the Libs (every Lib only 1 Time) |
| 17:41.59 | Laric | use the standalone versions |
| 17:42.44 | Somani | yeah i've copied the Libs\* tho Addons\. |
| 17:42.50 | Somani | dont work ;) |
| 17:42.58 | Laric | thats not the same |
| 17:43.10 | Laric | the standalones have .toc's in them |
| 17:43.34 | Somani | hm... kk ;) |
| 17:43.37 | Somani | *search* |
| 17:43.58 | Hjalte | Somani: WoW might take a long time to load with the libraries in each addon folder, but shortly after login WoW will remove each library not needed. So in the end you will have the same result if you use embedded or standalone libs. |
| 17:43.58 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r18387 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (15 files): |
| 17:43.58 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Naxx: |
| 17:43.58 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.58 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.19 | Somani | true Hjalte, but it sucks :D |
| 17:44.42 | Hjalte | Somani: The loading time..? Personally, I dont mind. |
| 17:45.39 | Somani | nice would be an Addon that contains all libs ;) |
| 17:46.01 | Laric | that one has been purged |
| 17:46.20 | Somani | give back ;) |
| 17:47.03 | Somani | i think, that would be ~3 lines of code... hm... need lua-skillz |
| 17:47.30 | Hjalte | Somani: There are also problems with an addon that contains all libs. It has to be updated all the time and such.. |
| 17:47.47 | Somani | updating is no problem, i update my addons with an batchfile |
| 17:48.20 | packetlss | doesnt !!!StandaloneLibs do what Somani wants? |
| 17:48.48 | Somani | hm... |
| 17:48.53 | Somani | it shoud ;) |
| 17:49.04 | Somani | test inc |
| 17:51.00 | Xuerian | Somani: Get !!!StandaloneLibraries. Extract the folders to your wow dir and update all addons without externals in WAU, this will catch the libraries. Libraries are LoD and will only load when requested |
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| 17:51.05 | mjc_ | http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4276 |
| 17:51.10 | Xuerian | There are not one, but -two- tutorials on that |
| 17:51.55 | Xuerian | also s/wow dir/addons dir/ |
| 17:52.08 | Somani | xuer.. updating without externals is what i've already done ;) but i've just copied the Libs\* to Addons\. - !!!SaL i what i'm dl-ing atm |
| 17:52.08 | mjc_ | Xuerian: read or die |
| 17:53.24 | Xuerian | I am rading :P |
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| 17:53.30 | Xuerian | rading. |
| 17:53.33 | Xuerian | Not spelling, note |
| 17:54.39 | Funkeh` | PerformanceFu.lua:192 unexpected symbol near `#' Oo |
| 17:54.42 | Xuerian | Somani: If I understand it right to summarize, you want the libs to load only once, and to be loaded like individual addons instead of being in every addon, right? |
| 17:54.54 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: Can't use latest p-fu in live |
| 17:54.55 | Elkano | blame vanilla |
| 17:55.14 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 17:55.22 | Tain | I blame butterscotch. |
| 17:55.44 | Somani | right |
| 17:56.04 | Somani | Xuerian hm... adding !!!SaL doenst help :( |
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| 17:56.24 | Somani | gna see |
| 17:56.39 | Tain | It is not worth the trouble, Somani. Just leave things the way they are supposed to be. |
| 17:56.45 | Somani | f***ing svn-client *search for something big and hard...* |
| 17:57.10 | Xuerian | sooooomannnnniiiii |
| 17:57.12 | Xuerian | read the fucking wiki |
| 17:57.33 | Somani | <3 |
| 17:58.00 | Xuerian | It's not any trouble at all to do it, you just. have. to. reeeeaaad |
| 17:59.43 | Xuerian | Also, mjc: If you meant read the SA page, haha, I've been laughing while cursing at somani becauseof it :p |
| 18:00.20 | Somani | :p the Wiki needs some more powwwwäääär |
| 18:00.36 | Xuerian | Somani: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater |
| 18:00.58 | Xuerian | Somani: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons |
| 18:01.28 | Somani | jaja found it but it takes much time to load ;) |
| 18:01.46 | Xuerian | :p |
| 18:01.48 | grzesieq | zomg, server down 30 minutes before raid :( |
| 18:01.57 | grzesieq | or not :) |
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| 18:05.00 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r18388 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Yea, whatever happened to testing stuff :( |
| 18:08.24 | sbu | uTorrent > Azu :p |
| 18:08.38 | Azurewrath | mhm? |
| 18:08.46 | Azurewrath | bah.. damned highlight ;p |
| 18:08.47 | sbu | uhhm |
| 18:08.53 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 18:09.04 | Mikma | hi assclowns |
| 18:09.17 | Azurewrath | hi Chief Assclown :) |
| 18:09.39 | Mikma | that's king of assclowns to you! |
| 18:10.04 | Jens | I like Azureus. |
| 18:10.07 | Azurewrath | Mikma: oh, i'm sorry |
| 18:10.11 | Mikma | AKX: code, now. |
| 18:10.13 | Mikma | Azurewrath: hi noob |
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| 18:10.18 | Jens | Hmm... 420 kb/s now. omg. |
| 18:10.23 | Tain | Azureus is great. It is just a lot more resource intensive. |
| 18:10.24 | sbu | Jens: i think its consumes too much memory (thx java) |
| 18:10.34 | Tain | I've been using uTorrent instead for ... a long time now. |
| 18:10.35 | Jens | I have enough memory :) |
| 18:10.37 | mjc_ | it's not java's fault that azu consumes so much memory |
| 18:10.39 | AKX | Mikma, no. |
| 18:10.43 | mjc_ | azu is very cache oriented |
| 18:11.16 | Mikma | AKX: code! reading is for noobs that aren't pro. |
| 18:11.17 | Xuerian | s/oriented/happy/ |
| 18:11.23 | Jens | Some people concern themselves too much with numbers from task manager. |
| 18:11.42 | Xuerian | Some people actually still use task manager. It's shocking, I know. |
| 18:11.56 | Jens | Which, I might add, is a very inaccurate way to determine memory usage. |
| 18:12.42 | Tain | Task manager, what's that? |
| 18:12.55 | mjc_ | bullshit! |
| 18:12.55 | Jens | Ctrl-Shift-Esc |
| 18:13.03 | Jens | Tain ^ |
| 18:13.33 | Xuerian | .... |
| 18:13.36 | axxo | any way to make the site load ;x |
| 18:13.36 | Tain | Nope ctrl-shift-esc brings up Process Explorer for me. :) |
| 18:14.03 | mjc_ | heh |
| 18:14.10 | Jens | I see. Well, I don't care a lot about resource usage. |
| 18:14.16 | Xuerian | =O |
| 18:14.25 | Xuerian | Get out of this chatroom now, treason...ist! |
| 18:14.25 | Jens | If I'm not in swapping hell, it doesn't bother me. |
| 18:14.35 | Jens | Ha ha ha :) |
| 18:14.41 | Jens | Sorry, don't get me wrong :P |
| 18:15.02 | Xuerian | No seriously though. Don't use taskman. |
| 18:15.25 | Jens | For Great Justice. |
| 18:16.03 | Xuerian | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/ProcessExplorer.mspx |
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| 18:19.45 | Amro | ckknight: ping |
| 18:20.11 | Amro | oh, he's not even here >< |
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| 18:21.30 | CIA-17 | 03scorpion * r18389 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 18:21.30 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 18:21.30 | CIA-17 | -Update Chinese zhTW & zhCN |
| 18:21.34 | Saroz | sup peeps |
| 18:21.44 | Jens | TBC client patching hell never ends :( |
| 18:22.14 | Jens | Downloaded omg hueg 2.0 patch. Now another 97 MB patch. |
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| 18:22.49 | sbu | its that new content... |
| 18:22.50 | sbu | :p |
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| 18:23.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:23.27 | sbu | you know - 30mb new localization files :/ |
| 18:23.39 | sbu | (at least for german clients) |
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| 18:24.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 18:24.45 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:24.47 | Kaelten | http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/29/1421205&from=rss |
| 18:25.53 | Azurewrath | mhm.. what is the correct changelog prefix for Babble-Spell-2.2? Doing deDE Updates atm |
| 18:26.04 | Azurewrath | Babble-Spell-2.2 did not work |
| 18:26.08 | vhaarr | .Babble-Spell-2.2: |
| 18:27.03 | Azurewrath | thx |
| 18:27.07 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r18390 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: |
| 18:27.07 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Naxx/Sapphiron: |
| 18:27.07 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.13 | Amro | ckknight, how can :Print cause a stack overflow in AceOO? |
| 18:27.19 | CIA-17 | 03duglum * r18391 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: deDE Updates, more to come. |
| 18:27.29 | haste | and then I'm leaving for Dreamhack! |
| 18:27.30 | Saroz | ckknight you fucked up performancefu, I got 40 guildies up my ass now :( |
| 18:27.44 | Josh_Borke | Saroz: downgrade a version |
| 18:27.44 | Funkeh` | what saroz said tbh :P |
| 18:27.50 | Saroz | I know Josh :p |
| 18:28.08 | Josh_Borke | no reason to get all pissy. it's been said that SVN is not a distribution method |
| 18:28.10 | Jens | Saroz: Wow, your guildies actually listen to you regarding mods? |
| 18:28.16 | Saroz | some do |
| 18:28.25 | pastamancer | you talk to your guildies?! |
| 18:28.31 | Xuerian | Saroz: Just revert a couple versions. |
| 18:28.32 | Jens | I got 12 people to install BigWigs... |
| 18:28.32 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:28.33 | Josh_Borke | YOU HAVE GUILDIES?! ZOMG! |
| 18:28.41 | Saroz | I got 40 people using bigwigs |
| 18:28.44 | Saroz | I know, I'm awesome |
| 18:28.53 | Azurewrath | hehe, same :) |
| 18:28.57 | Jens | Despite persistent flaming. |
| 18:28.57 | Funkeh` | saroz: use it or no epixx? :P |
| 18:29.03 | Saroz | hehe nah |
| 18:29.03 | Azurewrath | they like BigWigs |
| 18:29.11 | Saroz | they all installed it when we started naxx |
| 18:29.14 | Saroz | cause CTRA sucks nuts |
| 18:29.15 | Jens | My guildies are just ignorant. |
| 18:29.16 | axxo | wtb whonote ace2 convert |
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| 18:30.35 | Silviu- | my guildies all have bigwigs but some don`t want to update :) |
| 18:31.26 | Funkeh` | Silviu-: getting them to update is the most horrible thing of all time. WAU ftw <3 |
| 18:31.48 | Silviu- | They are in this way 'if it works, why update ?" |
| 18:31.59 | Fwip | my guildies can barely figure out how to install CTRA |
| 18:32.00 | Silviu- | Can`t explain to all that bugfixes new features etc |
| 18:32.28 | Mikma | yeah hmm, PerformanceFu won't work anymore. damn. someone has borked something |
| 18:32.46 | nevcairiel | not borked |
| 18:32.51 | nevcairiel | updated for next tuesday. |
| 18:33.00 | Mikma | well old versions won't work either |
| 18:33.20 | Silviu- | Mikma at me works perfect |
| 18:33.30 | sbu | Saroz: WTB predefinied buff display function for sRaidFrames :p |
| 18:33.31 | Mikma | i work perfectly at you? |
| 18:33.36 | Saroz | sbu, already in |
| 18:33.39 | sbu | oh? |
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| 18:33.42 | Saroz | ye |
| 18:33.48 | Saroz | Buff Filter |
| 18:33.53 | Silviu- | Not u hrhr :) |
| 18:33.53 | nevcairiel | Saroz: WTB sRaidFrames after next wednesday. |
| 18:33.57 | Saroz | yea |
| 18:34.01 | Saroz | gonna spend the weekend on it |
| 18:34.09 | Saroz | but I need a fucking raid on beta servers |
| 18:34.10 | sbu | i want to see all buffs - not only castables? |
| 18:34.13 | Silviu- | Revision: 18277 |
| 18:34.13 | Silviu- | Author: sylvanaar |
| 18:34.13 | Silviu- | Date: 10:17:58 PM, Tuesday, November 28, 2006 |
| 18:34.13 | Silviu- | Message: |
| 18:34.13 | Saroz | cant EVER find a raid |
| 18:34.14 | Silviu- | FuBar_PerformanceFu: missing optdeps |
| 18:34.15 | Saroz | yes dbu |
| 18:34.16 | Silviu- | ---- |
| 18:34.18 | Silviu- | Modified : /trunk/FuBar_PerformanceFu/FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc |
| 18:34.20 | Silviu- | Ups |
| 18:34.22 | Silviu- | Srry |
| 18:34.24 | nevcairiel | which server are you on? |
| 18:34.26 | Saroz | yes sbu |
| 18:34.29 | Silviu- | Update to this rev and it works :) |
| 18:34.31 | sbu | hm |
| 18:34.31 | sbu | ok |
| 18:34.32 | Saroz | tempest keep |
| 18:34.33 | Saroz | alliance |
| 18:34.48 | nevcairiel | if a 2 person raid is enough, i can volunteer :D |
| 18:34.54 | Saroz | nice |
| 18:35.04 | Saroz | should be |
| 18:35.08 | Saroz | need all that secure shit fixed |
| 18:35.17 | Saroz | gonna ninja it from grid |
| 18:35.19 | Saroz | *muahaha* |
| 18:35.35 | Hjalte | If i win a key in the beta contest, I'll also be up for testing sraidframes at any times ;) |
| 18:35.47 | nevcairiel | you prolly need to rewrite all frame creating, positioning etc |
| 18:36.03 | Saroz | :( |
| 18:36.06 | Saroz | Hold me! :( |
| 18:36.33 | nevcairiel | i can try to help, i tried to fix some stuff in agUF and learned some basics about the raid headers |
| 18:36.39 | Antiarc | I haven't looked, but has PerfectRaid been 2.0-ized yet? |
| 18:36.40 | Saroz | nice |
| 18:36.56 | Saroz | yea Antiarc |
| 18:36.59 | Saroz | just not released |
| 18:37.19 | Josh_Borke | wow, 91.732 MB used for mods |
| 18:38.07 | Mikma | nevcairiel: my penis needs fixing, can you touch it's header? |
| 18:38.12 | Antiarc | Ok, that's good. I loves my PerfectRaid |
| 18:38.29 | nevcairiel | Mikma: no, tekcub is there for that |
| 18:38.41 | Mikma | tekcub: could'cha would'cha? |
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| 18:43.22 | pb_ee1 | Heya ;) |
| 18:44.30 | sbu | uhm Saroz |
| 18:44.31 | sbu | [2006/11/29 19:43:37-168-x1]: FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:847: Dewdrop-2.0: args.bufffilter.args.remove.args.buff1: "name" cannot be a 0-length string |
| 18:44.40 | sbu | whats wrong here? :p |
| 18:50.23 | ckknight | sbu, as it states, your buff1 option has a 0-length name. change that |
| 18:50.34 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:51.13 | pastamancer | Saroz: the secure raid headers are pretty easy to work with |
| 18:51.29 | ckknight | Saroz, why don't you test things before sending em off? :-P |
| 18:51.50 | Tain | Testing is for ametures! |
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| 18:57.52 | Jens | Wait a minute... I can't transfer characters to TBC realm? |
| 18:58.26 | Prophy | anyone use Winaceupdater have a problem where it stops checking for updaters after half of the mods are checked for updates? |
| 18:58.26 | Jens | Ah disregard that. |
| 18:59.04 | Amro | ckknight: how can :Print cause a stack overflow in AceOO? |
| 18:59.27 | ckknight | Amro, well, all the arguments are tostring'd. So the overflow could be there. |
| 18:59.30 | ckknight | do you have a debugstack? |
| 18:59.54 | Amro | no, i did things differently and it now works |
| 19:00.11 | Amro | a chat message complete with [x. blah blah] was getting sent as the arg to :Print |
| 19:00.12 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:00.24 | ckknight | [x. blah blah]? |
| 19:00.36 | Amro | [1. General - Orgrimmar] etc |
| 19:00.42 | Jens | Character copy page is broken. |
| 19:00.47 | Jens | Doesn't load anyway. |
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| 19:01.39 | pb_eeA | ckknight: Have FuBar_PerformanceFu been already updated for LUA 5.1? |
| 19:02.03 | pb_eeA | Line 192: local num = #t |
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| 19:02.14 | nevcairiel | yes it has |
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| 19:03.27 | pb_eeA | Hum ok, too bad ;p |
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| 19:03.47 | pb_eeA | It's not working anymore on the normal release of WoW |
| 19:04.00 | Fwip | Prophy: I had that problem if I had MCP checked for update (it wouldn't look at MCP). Try putting a .svn folder in your MCP folder so that it will skip it (or just not check MCP) |
| 19:04.25 | Saroz | ckknight, yea sure |
| 19:04.27 | ckknight_ | frankbtw, Saroz, what was wrong with PerfFu? |
| 19:04.36 | Saroz | you committed TBC to trunk |
| 19:04.49 | ckknight | yes, I know, it should've worked properly. |
| 19:04.54 | Saroz | it doesnt |
| 19:04.57 | Saroz | wait, will show patch |
| 19:05.15 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3180.0;topicseen |
| 19:05.27 | ckknight | I don't need a patch, I need an error. |
| 19:05.36 | Saroz | I dont have the error |
| 19:05.38 | Saroz | I fixed it |
| 19:05.41 | ckknight | ah. |
| 19:05.42 | ckknight | okay then. |
| 19:05.46 | ckknight | patch away. |
| 19:05.49 | Saroz | wait wait |
| 19:06.04 | ckknight | well, lemme see it, first |
| 19:06.06 | Saroz | slow paster |
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| 19:06.13 | Saroz | http://ace.pastey.net/ zzz |
| 19:06.28 | ckknight | vhaarr, hrm... |
| 19:06.38 | vhaarr | ChatThrottleLib issue? |
| 19:06.49 | Saroz | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/2843 |
| 19:06.50 | ckknight | well, technically yes. |
| 19:06.55 | Azurewrath | mhm... i finished the deDE translation of Babble-Spell-2.2 but i can't find the following Spells anywhere.. any idea what class etc.? Anguish, Backlash, Second Wind, Shadowstep and Solid Sharpening Stone (wtf) |
| 19:07.02 | Saroz | ckknight, local num = #t was the error line |
| 19:07.05 | ckknight | ah, Saroz okay. |
| 19:07.06 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: Are they TBC spells? |
| 19:07.08 | Saroz | it didnt like # |
| 19:07.17 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: most were, yes |
| 19:07.23 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: TBC has not been incorporated in Babble-Spell yet. |
| 19:07.28 | vhaarr | Just a select few. |
| 19:07.34 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: Add them to all the locales. |
| 19:07.45 | vhaarr | If they are missing. |
| 19:08.19 | Azurewrath | nono, they are in BabbleSpell, i just can't find any german translation because i don't know what class uses them etc. |
| 19:08.41 | vhaarr | Class doesn't matter. |
| 19:08.48 | ckknight | thanks, Saroz |
| 19:08.51 | Azurewrath | Shadowstep was taken out of the game someone mentioned.. don't know |
| 19:09.02 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18392 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - now should properly work in WoW 1.12 |
| 19:09.09 | Saroz | nps ckknight |
| 19:09.14 | Azurewrath | the Class matters for me to find the correct Spells vhaarr :) |
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| 19:12.22 | ckknight | Shadowstep is Rouge |
| 19:12.24 | ckknight | Rogue* |
| 19:12.37 | Azurewrath | jup, 41 talent.. found it.. just can't find the german name :/ |
| 19:12.39 | pastamancer | Azurewrath: you can ask thottbot to find out what class a spell is used by |
| 19:14.38 | ckknight | wowguru has translations as well, typically. |
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| 19:19.49 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18393 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (6 files): |
| 19:19.49 | CIA-17 | FuBar_HonorFu - updated to work with WoW 2.0. |
| 19:19.49 | CIA-17 | No longer tracks last week's honor. |
| 19:19.55 | Grine | tek around? |
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| 19:21.54 | odt | nice work ckknight |
| 19:22.00 | odt | honorfu is teh shit |
| 19:22.18 | ckknight | :-) |
| 19:23.12 | odt | it would be very useful even if it only would show the av weekend times and keep track of bg scores |
| 19:23.35 | odt | actually, i think that's all it will do in 2.0 ? |
| 19:23.45 | CIA-17 | 03duglum * r18394 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: more deDE Updates, only Spells missing atm are Anguish (Felguard?), Backlash(Warlock?), Second Wind(Warrior?), Shadowstep(Rogue) and Solid Sharpening Stone(wtf?) |
| 19:23.58 | odt | or will honor still be calculated nightly? |
| 19:24.05 | Nickenyfiken | hmm the different BG weekends do they follow a special patter or what? |
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| 19:24.41 | odt | good enough for me to know that wsg will be up this weekend |
| 19:25.01 | odt | but yeah, there is a pattern i think |
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| 19:25.50 | Jens | Damn it. Can't play TBC now because character copy doesn't work. |
| 19:28.19 | nevcairiel | create a new char |
| 19:28.34 | Amro | make a belfadin |
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| 19:29.34 | leech2k | patch teusday woot |
| 19:30.34 | ckknight | gtg |
| 19:31.41 | Jens | Not planning on making a Dranei Shaman... ever. |
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| 19:32.10 | Grine | patch tuesday /wrists |
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| 19:42.16 | Nickenyfiken | hmm i have never noticed that aguf shows offline players as dead |
| 19:46.53 | CIA-17 | 03duglum * r18395 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite.lua deDE Updates. |
| 19:48.12 | CIA-17 | 03tristan * r18396 10Cancellation/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 19:48.12 | CIA-17 | Cancellation: |
| 19:48.12 | CIA-17 | - Worked some more with the Categories and cleaned up the code a bit |
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| 19:52.38 | CIA-17 | 03duglum * r18397 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: Anguish -> Seelenpein (deDE Update) |
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| 19:59.27 | Eternally777 | Where is the "patch tuesday" info coming from |
| 19:59.30 | Neebler | a post from a forum moderator or whatever they're called. on the official WoW forums |
| 20:00.54 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if there is another addon than fastcast that prevents spells from being cancelled if i accidentically click an extra time on the button? |
| 20:01.16 | Neebler | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51145118&sid=1 |
| 20:09.00 | KarlThePagan | Hjalte you can use the new macros system to prevent yourself from cating if you're channeling |
| 20:09.30 | Hjalte | In 2.0? I'm still on vanilla :) |
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| 20:09.41 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:09.47 | KarlThePagan | only in 2.0 Hjalte |
| 20:10.29 | Hjalte | Is it possible to be able to "spam" heals without them getting interrupted also? |
| 20:10.43 | KarlThePagan | that's the current functionality |
| 20:11.11 | KarlThePagan | unmodified if you spam a spell it doesn't interrupt another non-channeled spell |
| 20:11.38 | KarlThePagan | here's the macro you want: /stopmacro [channeling] |
| 20:11.52 | KarlThePagan | optionally here's a more complex one which wouldn't interrupt itself: |
| 20:12.03 | KarlThePagan | . /stopmacro [channeling:Drain Soul] |
| 20:12.11 | KarlThePagan | . /cast Drain Soul(Rank 1) |
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| 20:12.16 | KarlThePagan | something like that |
| 20:12.30 | KarlThePagan | so you could make a bunch of macros basically :/ |
| 20:12.42 | KarlThePagan | it's rather unfortunate to lose all our cast options and have to write 100 macros |
| 20:13.15 | Hjalte | Hmm, it can't be incorporated in an addon so we wont have to write 100 macros? |
| 20:13.47 | Fisker | anyone know what that "Increase player POI" option is in cartographer? |
| 20:13.50 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r18398 10Ace2/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - ignores multiple "No player '%s' found" messages. |
| 20:14.17 | ckknight | Fisker, I know what it is. |
| 20:14.24 | Fisker | what is it? |
| 20:14.26 | vhaarr | So I can Interface addons to 20000 and they still load in 1.12? |
| 20:14.30 | KarlThePagan | possibly Hjalte, but I'm not too familliar with the secure button stuff |
| 20:14.31 | ckknight | makes your POI bigger. |
| 20:14.39 | Fisker | /slap :P |
| 20:14.48 | pastamancer | vhaarr: yes |
| 20:14.52 | Fisker | well what does Point of Interest mean in this context? |
| 20:15.04 | ckknight | the option is "Large player POI" |
| 20:15.10 | ckknight | Fisker, it's your little arrow thingy. |
| 20:15.14 | vhaarr | pastamancer: That's excellent - I assume "Load outdated addons" must be checked? |
| 20:15.17 | Fisker | oooh |
| 20:15.20 | Fisker | thanks |
| 20:15.20 | ckknight | that Blizzard made way too small. |
| 20:15.24 | vhaarr | pastamancer: In any case, most addon users probably have it checked anyway. |
| 20:15.25 | pastamancer | vhaarr: nope |
| 20:15.27 | vhaarr | oh |
| 20:15.35 | vhaarr | cool |
| 20:15.37 | Fisker | thought it was some kind of "Early-map-detection-stuff" |
| 20:15.41 | Fisker | so that it would find areas quicker |
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| 20:16.13 | ckknight | nope |
| 20:16.14 | pastamancer | if tocVersion >= clientVersion or loadOldAddons |
| 20:16.20 | vhaarr | aha |
| 20:16.23 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r18399 10Ace2/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - possible fix for foreigners. |
| 20:16.26 | ckknight | maybe I should change POI to "Arrow" |
| 20:17.01 | KarlThePagan | my SVN problem was deffinately some corporate firewall stuff, tho my admin swears we didn't change anything :P |
| 20:19.26 | Hjalte | Pastamancer: I'm a big fan of Grid and i use a lot of the modular plugins. I also use the ones mentioned on this webpage i link to, but with each new grid update *one* line needs to be added to gridframe.lua.. Do you think you could put that line in the official release? http://goeb.aquavitae.org/Addons/readme.html |
| 20:20.01 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18400 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer-LookNFeel - renamed "Large player POI" to "Large player arrow" |
| 20:20.13 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r18401 10Ace2/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - added missing "then" |
| 20:20.52 | Grine | ckknight: possible fix for foreigners? O_o sounds racist imo |
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| 20:21.34 | KarlThePagan | Grine you mean "xenophobic" |
| 20:21.49 | pastamancer | Hjalte: no. He should be creating a new class that inherits from GridFrameClass and then replace GridFrame.frameClass |
| 20:21.57 | KarlThePagan | I laugh when my 13yo brother calls everything "racist" or "racism" |
| 20:22.03 | Grine | KarlThePagan: SSDN |
| 20:22.24 | ckknight | it may sound racist |
| 20:22.25 | ckknight | but... |
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| 20:22.28 | ckknight | foreigners suck. |
| 20:22.42 | ckknight | at least from a support point of view. |
| 20:22.48 | pastamancer | don't worry, at least it's not the "final solution" for foreigners |
| 20:22.56 | ckknight | if they all spoke English, it'd be a lot easier |
| 20:23.35 | Grine | I'm a foreigner! |
| 20:24.18 | Fisker | i speak engrish |
| 20:24.35 | Neebler | I listen to foreigner |
| 20:24.56 | KarlThePagan | BLIZZARDS IS RACIST AGAINST MAGES! |
| 20:25.29 | ckknight | lol, KarlThePagan |
| 20:25.46 | ckknight | we're separated more by class than by nationality. |
| 20:25.50 | ckknight | I'm a priest. |
| 20:25.55 | |Pixel| | come on :) |
| 20:26.01 | KarlThePagan | lol same |
| 20:26.05 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:26.05 | KarlThePagan | smite > shadow |
| 20:26.29 | KarlThePagan | I am a caste rebel |
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| 20:28.21 | ckknight | hehe. |
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| 20:40.07 | ckknight | hooray for Ace! |
| 20:40.15 | Xuerian | Cya ckknight :P |
| 20:42.10 | Grine | hmm... |
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| 20:43.41 | KarlThePagan | Hooray SVN |
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| 20:46.42 | Amadeo | This is hilarious |
| 20:46.43 | Amadeo | http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/ |
| 20:48.09 | nymbia | rofl |
| 20:49.24 | nymbia | if they're gonna swing the damn thing with enough force to punch a crack into a tv |
| 20:49.29 | nymbia | and they have an expensive tv |
| 20:49.41 | nymbia | they should put a net between themselves and it. |
| 20:49.48 | nymbia | or padding on their controller. |
| 20:49.50 | nymbia | either way. |
| 20:49.59 | KarlThePagan | or ... get a grip |
| 20:50.04 | nymbia | or that ;) |
| 20:50.06 | Amadeo | That was an Aerosmith album |
| 20:50.23 | Amadeo | people need to stop swinging like maniacs |
| 20:50.30 | Amadeo | but the cord is pretty thin |
| 20:51.19 | nymbia | i can see snapping it if you try to |
| 20:51.37 | nymbia | or if you intentionally release your grip every bowling throw.. |
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| 20:53.40 | Amadeo | The only real worry I have about the Wii are its games...I don't really want to only play Weeble games |
| 20:54.06 | Amadeo | but maybe that's all the system can do since it's not very powerful, I dunno |
| 20:54.19 | grzesieq | wtb an option to filter all the crap from vent |
| 20:54.32 | nymbia | zelda's pretty damn awesome |
| 20:55.19 | Amadeo | Zelda looks good |
| 20:55.25 | Amadeo | the sports games look weak |
| 20:55.34 | Amadeo | Mario looks good |
| 20:55.47 | Amadeo | Is there going to be a Metroid? That should be good |
| 20:55.48 | nymbia | sports is more of a demo of what the remote can do than a game |
| 20:55.51 | nymbia | yeah |
| 20:55.59 | Amadeo | oh really? do the sports come with the console or something? |
| 20:56.03 | nymbia | yeah |
| 20:56.09 | Amadeo | I see |
| 20:56.27 | Amadeo | I'm considering buying one, but I like to wait a bit first, see how many problems they have |
| 20:56.44 | Nickenyfiken | lol look at the first movie... the guy throw the ball up in the ceiling :-P |
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| 20:57.23 | Amadeo | hahah yeah |
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| 20:59.02 | Nickenyfiken | bah i hate my ISP... got kicked of two Strat scarlet and my guilds ZG raid because i always get disconnects and lagspikes between 7 and 9 pm :-/ |
| 20:59.24 | Astryl | Rawr. |
| 20:59.39 | odt | write some hatemail to your ISP and blame them for destroying your social lif |
| 20:59.46 | odt | e |
| 21:00.16 | Astryl | I have a quick question about Grid, if anyone knowledgable about it is around... Looked through all the docs, wiki, and forum thread about it, before coming here. :) |
| 21:00.39 | vhaarr | Just ask (tm). |
| 21:01.28 | Astryl | HoTs from multiple healers stack now. Can the buff display be configured to only show YOUR renew? |
| 21:01.53 | pastamancer | there is no way to determine the owner of a buff or debuff |
| 21:02.02 | pastamancer | therefore, no |
| 21:02.48 | vhaarr | pastamancer: That's right, but there is a way to determine when you apply a Renew on someone, and so you can start an internal timer. |
| 21:02.48 | Astryl | There is if you cast it, by keeping track of when you cast it. |
| 21:03.02 | pastamancer | vhaarr: yeah, that would require someone to write a module that did that. The auras module just scans buffs. |
| 21:03.07 | vhaarr | Indeed. |
| 21:03.12 | vhaarr | Astryl: Go code it. |
| 21:03.25 | Iceroth | sounds good, go do it :) |
| 21:03.39 | Astryl | *shrug* I might. Been looking for something to do now that 2.0 kills my addon. |
| 21:03.47 | Astryl | (Hah, expect me to say that? :)) |
| 21:03.56 | Iceroth | no :p |
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| 21:04.24 | Astryl | Kwak, Cairenn. |
| 21:04.33 | pastamancer | personally, I use a separate addon to show timer bars for the HoTs I've cast and let Grid show me if someone has any HoT so I know if someone needs a heal |
| 21:04.56 | Iceroth | i hate how chronometer spams the hots |
| 21:05.10 | Iceroth | screen filled with green bars |
| 21:05.23 | vhaarr | Does it track HoTs from other people? |
| 21:05.31 | nevcairiel | i think it tracks all casts |
| 21:05.37 | Iceroth | chronometer tracks your own spell durations |
| 21:05.46 | vhaarr | ah, so you HoT lots of people |
| 21:06.10 | Iceroth | can happen in raids yea when lots of aoe dmg is thrown out, like the gargoyles in naxx |
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| 21:06.20 | vhaarr | PoH ftw. |
| 21:06.32 | vhaarr | I heal my group with VE on that trash. |
| 21:06.42 | Iceroth | the channeled piece of shit druid version ftl |
| 21:07.14 | Iceroth | can't even remember the name even though i still have it on my action bar for some reason |
| 21:07.16 | nevcairiel | I coded HotCandy for only tracking my own hots |
| 21:07.22 | nevcairiel | i need to recode it for 2.0 tho. |
| 21:08.58 | Astryl | Tranquility. |
| 21:09.04 | Iceroth | yeah |
| 21:10.22 | vhaarr | Tranquility is channeled?! rofl |
| 21:10.26 | vhaarr | I had no idea. |
| 21:10.28 | Astryl | Hah. |
| 21:10.34 | Iceroth | it sucks on so many levels |
| 21:10.41 | Iceroth | and it has like 5min cd too |
| 21:10.41 | vhaarr | That makes it suck indeed. |
| 21:10.50 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r18402 10Stand-A-Load/ (. Stand-A-Load.lua Stand-A-Load.toc): |
| 21:10.50 | CIA-17 | Stand-A-Load: initial commit. |
| 21:10.50 | CIA-17 | - Loads all standalone libraries. |
| 21:10.55 | vhaarr | I always wondered why druids were whining about it, now I know. |
| 21:11.00 | vhaarr | and agree :P |
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| 21:11.15 | Iceroth | i could stand the channeled part but wth is with the cooldown |
| 21:11.17 | Astryl | But hey if you get Improved Tranquility talents, it does only 20% of normal aggro! |
| 21:11.23 | Astryl | :) |
| 21:11.39 | Iceroth | you can get it aggro free iirc if you spec for it |
| 21:11.39 | Astryl | (Or wait, they buffed it to 0%, didn't they? It's aggroless when talented?) |
| 21:11.58 | Astryl | I think it's -80% aggro talent in live, -100% in beta/2.0. |
| 21:12.08 | Iceroth | like it would matter.. |
| 21:12.25 | Iceroth | we have 1 druid out of 5-6 who uses it |
| 21:12.43 | Astryl | I use it on Rag... |
| 21:13.14 | Astryl | I'm usually with the rogues, doing kitty dps, so when we all take an aoe, I shift out, and tranquility (using up 2/3 of my mana, but i don't need mana for cat form anyway!) :) |
| 21:13.48 | Iceroth | i'll let my imp. lotp heal them :) |
| 21:13.58 | Astryl | Well, now I'll do that too. :) |
| 21:14.07 | Iceroth | though i can't remember the last time i've seen raggy.. |
| 21:14.30 | Astryl | Made it halfway through Mana Tombs last night, with Imp LotP + VampEmbrace being the only healing. |
| 21:14.42 | Astryl | Err, and PW:Shield |
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| 21:16.31 | nevcairiel | I love Lifebloom. I can heal every 5 man instance with only hots now. tree form ftw. |
| 21:17.45 | Iceroth | Hamstring - The Tree Form sprint! |
| 21:17.47 | Astryl | Indeed, love the mana efficiency of it. |
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| 21:21.45 | Astryl | Is anyone here an officer for their guild, and planning what to do about addons for members for 2.0? |
| 21:22.50 | nymbia | how do you mean? most raiding addons are converted (cept those that're impossible now) |
| 21:22.52 | Jens | Hmm... officers actually do that? |
| 21:22.56 | Astryl | I'm really dreadding tuesday, not because it will break my addons (I can resolve that myself), but because it will break all my raid members' addons, and many people will be coming to me for help. |
| 21:23.02 | Astryl | Ideally, Jens. :) |
| 21:23.29 | Jens | I didn't run for officer, because I know 5% of the guild cares about what I say, no matter how wise it is. |
| 21:23.50 | Jens | Even when I point out obvious shortcomings and flaws in the way things are done. |
| 21:24.10 | Astryl | Well that's kinda what I mean. Decursive is required currently, so we're going to need to handle that dependancy somehow, same w |
| 21:24.12 | Jens | Notably DKP issues which are utterly retarded and more. |
| 21:24.22 | Astryl | same with emergency monitors, etc. |
| 21:24.30 | nymbia | grid! |
| 21:24.49 | Astryl | Yeah, Grid is what I'm going to suggest, but it's not the same... |
| 21:25.23 | Astryl | A molerat could use Decursive. Spam one button. Over, and over. No configuration necessary. |
| 21:25.33 | nymbia | i'm not saying that they wont need to adapt. but.. it's not like they can stick with decursive and emergency monitors |
| 21:26.09 | nymbia | fights like noth are gonna be pretty rough, though. lol. |
| 21:26.33 | Iceroth | i've done it now with grid and clique, not too hard at all |
| 21:26.38 | Astryl | More than anything, I'm dreading tuesday because it will show who sucks ass at their job, despite being a nice people. |
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| 21:27.10 | Astryl | Not too hard for you, you're intelligent. Not everyone is. Tuesday is going to show who's not cut out to heal or decurse. |
| 21:27.28 | Iceroth | hah, i already know those ppl... |
| 21:27.38 | Antiarc | It's going to make it clear who is active and who is reactive. |
| 21:27.49 | Iceroth | and yet the raid leader insists on bringing them.. |
| 21:27.55 | [Wobin] | >< |
| 21:28.02 | [Wobin] | TRIAL BY FIRE |
| 21:28.29 | Astryl | Yep... Well what can you do when you've got a seasoned raid member, heck even officer or perhaps even guild leader, who suddenly, as of tuesday, can't play worth shit. |
| 21:28.46 | Gngsk | recruit |
| 21:28.52 | [Wobin] | On the one hand, I'm glad my main is now a dps =P |
| 21:28.55 | Astryl | Heck, it's not even tuesday yet, and our guild leader cast Blessing of Protection on the MT, on Firemaw last night, by accident. |
| 21:29.07 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 21:29.19 | Hjalte | Letting baby brothers play ftl... |
| 21:29.23 | Astryl | "GL! You're banned from raiding for a week!" wouldn't exactly go over well. |
| 21:29.25 | [Wobin] | On the other... I'm glad most of our healers are pretty good... (aside from decursing =P) |
| 21:31.18 | Antiarc | Astryl: We had the same thing happen with Divine Intervention on Maexxna. |
| 21:31.47 | Astryl | Heh. |
| 21:31.50 | odt | another dead gothik, which means another week of 4h practice |
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| 21:41.02 | Eternally777 | Is there a working version of MyDebug or TekProber for 2.0? |
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| 21:42.39 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r18403 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: |
| 21:42.39 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Naxx/Gluth: |
| 21:42.39 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.45 | Jens | WTF?! |
| 21:43.00 | Jens | TBC says my name has been found to be in violation of naming rules. |
| 21:43.04 | Jens | "Zalkalin" |
| 21:43.09 | Astryl | Says that for everyone, Jens. |
| 21:43.09 | Josh_Borke | you have to change it |
| 21:43.10 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 21:43.27 | Jens | What for? Seems silly. |
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| 21:51.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:51.27 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:52.01 | Hjalte | Good evening |
| 21:52.19 | ckknight | Xuerian, how'd the propaganda machine go after I left? |
| 21:52.27 | Xuerian | Interesting. |
| 21:52.42 | Josh_Borke | he failed miserably |
| 21:53.01 | nymbia | ooh, propaganda. link? |
| 21:53.05 | Xuerian | Only because the guy didn't keep the scope of his argument in one place! >_< |
| 21:53.16 | Elkano | ckknight, is there any way to send unserialised data over AceComm? |
| 21:53.41 | ckknight | Elkano, no, you should probably use the standard SendAddonMessage instead |
| 21:53.43 | Xuerian | First it was tbc mods, then live mods. Then ace in general. Then ace1. It was ace's fault, then it was the dev's fault. |
| 21:53.59 | ckknight | Neuro or Cide? |
| 21:54.06 | Xuerian | Neuro |
| 21:54.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:54.29 | Elkano | the only thing I can imagine where it's usefull are itemlinks in order to have them validated by the server :/ |
| 21:54.32 | ckknight | I'm not fond of his views... |
| 21:54.49 | ckknight | Elkano, what's wrong with serializing the item links? |
| 21:55.00 | Xuerian | Stalemated with "End user doesn't know not to use Ace1"... He was nice about it, at least. |
| 21:55.12 | Elkano | it won't be validated by the server |
| 21:56.07 | Elkano | following scenario: A sends itemlink, B sees link and requests tooltip -> with valid link it's safe, else B might be DCed from server |
| 21:56.25 | Josh_Borke | isn't the validation based on what the server knows? |
| 21:56.34 | Elkano | yes |
| 21:56.37 | Josh_Borke | so if A can send an itemlink then B can see it |
| 21:56.57 | Elkano | not if it was serialised by AceComm |
| 21:57.27 | Josh_Borke | how does serialisation change it? |
| 21:57.53 | ckknight | oh, AceComm prevents that |
| 21:58.09 | ckknight | as it has to retrieve the link from it through GetItemInfo |
| 21:58.15 | Josh_Borke | ah, i see |
| 21:58.16 | ckknight | if it's an invalid link, it should return nil. |
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| 22:03.02 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r18404 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/SWStatsFu.lua: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: I dont know how to detect logout it seems. Hide this option for now. |
| 22:04.08 | Elkano | ckknight, but anyone could send a spoof link that AceComm would try to deserialize to a link... |
| 22:04.45 | Elkano | so would that mean you can only send item links both sides know? |
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| 22:06.02 | sylvanaar | I thought that they stopped d/c'ing ppl because of links sent in BG's |
| 22:06.51 | Elkano | nope, have a look at eg AtlasLoot and try to retrieve all NAxx items |
| 22:06.59 | sylvanaar | i can |
| 22:07.23 | Elkano | hmm... maybe you're only on a lucky server ;) |
| 22:07.39 | sylvanaar | wierd - are you positive? |
| 22:08.45 | nevcairiel | well |
| 22:08.48 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:10.23 | sylvanaar | are there ace api that deal with time comparison? |
| 22:11.22 | Eternally777 | What do you mean? |
| 22:12.06 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r18406 10FuBar_TrainerFu/FuBar_TrainerFu.toc: FuBar_TrainerFu: Updated TOC |
| 22:12.24 | sylvanaar | before i code a fx that lets you save a start time and end time and then say how long the differnce was |
| 22:12.34 | Elkano | 7[Atiesh] just DCed me |
| 22:12.57 | ckknight | Elkano, as far as my tests have shown, spoofed links don't deserialize.. |
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| 22:13.49 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18407 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - turns "Mountain Silversage (280)" into "Mountain Silversage" now |
| 22:13.50 | sylvanaar | they changed something Im positive - but im not sure of the details |
| 22:13.54 | Elkano | so you can only send an item that the other side has seen, too? |
| 22:14.19 | Elkano | sylvanaar, maybe a shared cache among the battlegroup |
| 22:15.27 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r18408 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - turns "Mineral (280)" into "Mineral" now |
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| 22:20.19 | sylvanaar | i see - its dont send links through chat that you havent recieved through chat. |
| 22:20.35 | sylvanaar | thats the rule |
| 22:20.51 | Nickenyfiken | hmm hmm |
| 22:22.23 | nevcairiel | but you can actually inspect someone in BG and link those items. |
| 22:22.26 | Nickenyfiken | any ace wiki haxor alive? |
| 22:22.27 | sylvanaar | so i wonder what if someone links Atiesh to you in a bg |
| 22:22.29 | nevcairiel | even if never seen. |
| 22:23.06 | Nickenyfiken | what should i set ## title to in the toc? now the wiki thinks FuBar_TrainerFu's name is FuBar |
| 22:23.46 | sylvanaar | there is a wiki page about how to make wiki pages |
| 22:23.59 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r18409 10gfxToggle2/ (4 files): |
| 22:23.59 | CIA-17 | gfxToggle2: |
| 22:23.59 | CIA-17 | - added tooltip toggle for settings low, med, high |
| 22:23.59 | CIA-17 | - changed name to gfxToggle2 |
| 22:23.59 | CIA-17 | - changed a lot of locals, removed some string.format's |
| 22:24.00 | CIA-17 | - once again fixed lib loading in TOC (yikes!) |
| 22:24.30 | leech2k | blizz didnt fix selfcast in ptr yet :-( |
| 22:24.54 | leech2k | I hope they do before it goes live or I will have to change my bindings |
| 22:25.18 | Nickenyfiken | sylvanaar: yup i have |
| 22:25.22 | sylvanaar | im still not convinced there is a problem with doing self cast, it still seems like people are only trying it one way |
| 22:25.32 | sylvanaar | i guess i need to try it myself |
| 22:25.57 | sylvanaar | Nickenyfiken: look at another fubar plugin |
| 22:26.18 | Nickenyfiken | i am and they have the same title but they are correct on the wiki hmm |
| 22:26.30 | Elkano | sylvanaar, that's why I want to have these links checked by the server: so it's the one spoofing who get's disconnected and not the one reciving. |
| 22:26.40 | sylvanaar | look at thier wiki page and click edit |
| 22:27.07 | Elkano | And only reciving items that are already in my cache would take a large part of DistChat's reason away... |
| 22:27.27 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r18410 10FruityLoots/FruityLoots.lua: |
| 22:27.27 | CIA-17 | FruityLoots |
| 22:27.27 | CIA-17 | - removed oSkin check, since I don't know how oSkin skins the LootFrame, Skinner check is still working |
| 22:27.53 | sylvanaar | Elkano: i see |
| 22:28.34 | sylvanaar | will /script UIParent:Hide(); still work in 2.0? |
| 22:28.48 | sylvanaar | out of combat? |
| 22:28.50 | ckknight | I don't see why not |
| 22:29.09 | sylvanaar | fun |
| 22:29.58 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r18411 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Properly reset the paper doll slot tooltip on leave. |
| 22:30.56 | leech2k | hmm I havent checked yet but does itemrack still work in 2.0¿ |
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| 22:32.09 | sylvanaar | oh - ok anyone know how do dectect a normal logout? |
| 22:32.20 | ckknight | sylvanaar, AceComm hooks Logout. |
| 22:32.53 | sylvanaar | ckknight: is it assured that its a logout and not a reloadui |
| 22:33.35 | Elkano | btw: acecom will use two of the 10 channels (for ZONE and GLOBAL), won't it? |
| 22:33.51 | ckknight | Elkano, only if an addon requests to use it. |
| 22:33.56 | ckknight | which most don't seem to |
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| 22:34.52 | Elkano | well, I'm still thinking about how to port DistChat over to ace2 :/ |
| 22:37.57 | ckknight | what's DistChat? |
| 22:38.45 | Mikma | ckknight: in where? |
| 22:38.46 | sylvanaar | chat relay server to server via bg? |
| 22:38.48 | Elkano | ItemDB's underlying link distribution system |
| 22:38.54 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 22:38.59 | ckknight | Mikma, excuse me? |
| 22:39.02 | ckknight | Elkano, ah, okay. |
| 22:39.11 | Mikma | ckknight: nvm was 3 lines up |
| 22:39.31 | Nickenyfiken | wowace down bah :-/ |
| 22:40.01 | Elkano | I'm putting it into an embedded lib, InventoryLib. Thus I planed to move it over to AceComm in case it supports the needed stuff |
| 22:40.10 | Kalamadi | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 22:40.31 | purl | cncfanatics <n=cncfanat@229.154-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 2m 27s ago, saying: 'Ace_FullyInitialized triggers after loading all addons at player_login anyway'. |
| 22:44.16 | ckknight | wowace.com down for anyone else? |
| 22:44.46 | sylvanaar | have you guys ever considered something that acts as an addon channel proxy like chatthrottlelib, but directs all outbound RAID broadcasts to the PARTY channel, with a single person acting as a relay for that group? |
| 22:45.38 | Silviu- | me |
| 22:45.50 | KarlThePagan | ckknight i just noticed i'm timing out to wowace.com |
| 22:46.05 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: yup for me too |
| 22:46.33 | sylvanaar | its down quite a bit for me, i always thought the problem was on my end |
| 22:46.39 | Nickenyfiken | right when i was submitting a wiki page it goes down :-/ |
| 22:47.05 | ckknight | Kaelten, ping |
| 22:47.16 | KarlThePagan | Elkano I endorse moving to AceComm |
| 22:47.28 | ckknight | sylvanaar, why? |
| 22:47.32 | KarlThePagan | try using itemdb and HeyFu at the same time |
| 22:47.33 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 22:47.37 | ckknight | regarding your PARTY->RAID deal. |
| 22:48.04 | Elkano | Karl, no problems for me.. maybe I should commit my changes to heyfu ;) |
| 22:48.11 | KarlThePagan | oh please |
| 22:48.12 | KarlThePagan | :P |
| 22:48.21 | sylvanaar | ckknight: its concievable that it could reduce spammy addon traffic |
| 22:48.36 | KarlThePagan | I haven't been too patient in my attempt to use heyfu's word filter to exclude itemdb traffic |
| 22:49.02 | ckknight | sylvanaar, depends on the addon, really. |
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| 22:49.26 | sylvanaar | ckknight: im talking about one that intercepts other addons |
| 22:49.41 | ckknight | I really don't think it's necessary. |
| 22:49.57 | Elkano | KarlThePagan, server seems down, so no can do |
| 22:50.02 | sylvanaar | KTMThreatMeter = satan |
| 22:50.48 | Elkano | but try sth like "%[ItemDB" |
| 22:50.48 | sylvanaar | even if you arent using it |
| 22:51.27 | sylvanaar | every ADDON_MSG handler you have will get called |
| 22:51.48 | KarlThePagan | will do |
| 22:52.12 | Hjalte | Sylvanaar: Please do an ace2 threat meter then :) |
| 22:52.17 | ckknight | sylvanaar, if you're an Ace2 mod, you're likely not going to deal with that |
| 22:52.17 | sylvanaar | no |
| 22:52.29 | ckknight | AceComm handles CHAT_MSG_* |
| 22:52.40 | sylvanaar | ckknight: yeah, i know |
| 22:52.41 | ckknight | and if the prefix doesn't match any registrations, it returns ASAP |
| 22:54.02 | KarlThePagan | I should read up on lua regex syntax... and how it compares to perl RE's |
| 22:54.16 | ckknight | lua doesn't use regexes, it uses patterns |
| 22:54.19 | ckknight | which are similar |
| 22:54.26 | ckknight | but nowhere near as complete as perl's REs. |
| 22:55.46 | Antiarc | Iiinteresting. |
| 22:55.46 | ckknight | but they are quite fast... |
| 22:55.56 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.17 | sylvanaar | cosmos castoptions used to let you do that |
| 22:56.35 | Antiarc | That opens a lot of possibilities, especially when fighting shaman. |
| 22:56.44 | Antiarc | No more losing combo points to kill an earthbind or poison cleansing totem! |
| 22:57.01 | nymbia | focus ;) |
| 22:57.09 | Antiarc | Does focus keep your CP? |
| 22:57.14 | nymbia | sure |
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| 22:57.27 | Antiarc | Well, if I /focus the shaman, then switch to kill a totem, I'll lose my CP. |
| 22:57.36 | nymbia | focus the totem |
| 22:57.50 | Antiarc | Hm, that could work, though that would require a macro per totem, if I'm not mistaken. |
| 22:58.34 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.35 | KarlThePagan | not /focus [target=mouseover] |
| 22:58.36 | KarlThePagan | ah |
| 22:58.44 | ckknight | maybe. |
| 22:58.46 | ckknight | I dunno. |
| 22:58.52 | KarlThePagan | you're probably right |
| 22:58.52 | nymbia | ./cast [target=focus, exists] Sinister Strike; [target=target] Sinister Strike |
| 22:58.59 | KarlThePagan | since /focus player |
| 22:59.02 | KarlThePagan | etc |
| 22:59.03 | sylvanaar | WOOT he did it |
| 22:59.04 | sylvanaar | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3310 |
| 22:59.06 | nymbia | and yes, /focus mouseover |
| 22:59.11 | Antiarc | Interesting. |
| 22:59.21 | sylvanaar | i asked him to on the off chance he would add it |
| 22:59.53 | sylvanaar | thank god |
| 23:00.23 | nymbia | sylvanaar: what's it do that's so great? |
| 23:00.53 | sylvanaar | its an addon manager, he added the ability to update your ace addons to it |
| 23:01.18 | nymbia | oh neat |
| 23:03.14 | sylvanaar | yeah - out of game manager for the files themselves |
| 23:03.25 | Nickenyfiken | oh that tool looks great |
| 23:04.06 | Nickenyfiken | so it does update addons from other sites too or just from wowace? |
| 23:04.45 | sylvanaar | yeah, its great - im testing it right now |
| 23:05.55 | sylvanaar | its interesting how he is showing the version number from the zip section |
| 23:06.25 | Nickenyfiken | why is it interesting? |
| 23:06.32 | sylvanaar | but if there isnt one, he shows the toc |
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| 23:07.25 | Kaelten | sorry about the server being down guys, I got them on the phone right now |
| 23:07.36 | ckknight | okay. |
| 23:07.39 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 23:07.53 | Nickenyfiken | Kaelten: no problem |
| 23:08.58 | ckknight | in the meantime, I should go get lunch. |
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| 23:11.36 | sylvanaar | If the selected AddOn is an Ace AddOn, the Program will check on the AceWiki if there is a Revision with a higher Revision Number than the one selected. |
| 23:11.56 | sylvanaar | This will only work if the AddOn follows the AceAddOn Revision System Standards. Which will mean, there has to be a changelog-r*.txt File in the local Folder of this AddOn and the AddOn must be Listed on the AceWiki. |
| 23:12.06 | Nickenyfiken | sylvanaar: why check the wiki? there is a latest.txt file in each folder |
| 23:12.16 | sylvanaar | its for end users |
| 23:12.33 | Nickenyfiken | uhm |
| 23:12.46 | Nickenyfiken | so it will only update if there is a new version on the wiki? |
| 23:12.59 | Nickenyfiken | does it detect and ignore addons with .svn foler in it? |
| 23:13.24 | Kaelten | ok servers back up |
| 23:13.28 | sylvanaar | Nickenyfiken: why would an end user have an SVN folder |
| 23:13.29 | Nickenyfiken | :-) |
| 23:13.32 | nymbia | thanks kael :) |
| 23:13.41 | Kaelten | something happened where it had to have a check disk ran on it *shrugs* |
| 23:13.49 | nymbia | sylvanaar: authors update their mods too ;) |
| 23:13.51 | Nickenyfiken | sylvanaar: well ok |
| 23:13.57 | Nickenyfiken | but then that tool is nothing for me |
| 23:14.18 | sylvanaar | they use the SVN to do it |
| 23:14.47 | Nickenyfiken | 95% of my addons are on the SVN anyway |
| 23:15.24 | sylvanaar | this is for joe blow public |
| 23:17.26 | pastamancer | Kaelten: the server appears to be up, but the forums appear to be having trouble |
| 23:17.47 | sylvanaar | just need to allow for a public version number somehow on the wiki page |
| 23:18.03 | pastamancer | 8: Undefined index: image File: /usr/local/www/data/forums/Themes/wowace/Display.template.php (eval?) Line: 193 |
| 23:18.26 | Industrial | Anyone seen the anime Eureka 7? |
| 23:18.31 | nymbia | sylvanaar: why? that program can just as easily check revision number in /files |
| 23:18.34 | Industrial | its making me cry :') |
| 23:18.45 | Industrial | (but the kid is suck an idiot -.-') |
| 23:18.56 | Industrial | s/ck/ch/ |
| 23:19.00 | sylvanaar | why is everyone so unaware of end user issues |
| 23:19.36 | Industrial | sylvanaar: because there is nothing posed on the forums, or end users are too lazy to use an irc client. |
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| 23:19.40 | Industrial | posted |
| 23:19.54 | sylvanaar | Industrial: you are making my point for me |
| 23:20.00 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: that's what the QA team is for! :p |
| 23:20.03 | noha^ | one question regarding the SVN. if i update without externals. the externals are still listed in the .toc file. do i have to delete the lines or will wow just ignore that lines when there are no files to include |
| 23:20.14 | Industrial | sylvanaar: I'd like to add that its not our problem, and the end user should take action. |
| 23:20.15 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: lol |
| 23:20.26 | sylvanaar | Industrial: again you are makin my point |
| 23:20.32 | nymbia | sylvanaar: that's a very general response to a specific issue. my issue was, why can't that program just check revision number in the latest.txt? |
| 23:20.43 | nymbia | why do they need to look at the wiki? |
| 23:21.22 | nymbia | i'd rather they stay the hell away from it; the web server is slammed enough already without that program making requests to pages with tons of data and images |
| 23:21.36 | Industrial | because a wiki is a a collaborative Web site set up to allow user editing and adding of content |
| 23:22.21 | Industrial | eg on top of the list of resources to look at when in need of info? :p |
| 23:22.23 | nymbia | Industrial: it's a program for updating mods, kind of a universal aceupdater. it should NOT be looking at the wikiw ;) |
| 23:22.48 | Industrial | never mind i havent read everything above |
| 23:23.05 | nymbia | the version numbers are readily available to it. http://www.wowace.com/files/Addon/latest.txt |
| 23:23.07 | sylvanaar | then put a latest-release.txt there |
| 23:23.40 | nymbia | where? |
| 23:24.15 | Nickenyfiken | thats what i said too |
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| 23:24.28 | Nickenyfiken | why not just grab it from the latest.txt? |
| 23:24.46 | sylvanaar | you havent made the leap in your head that i have |
| 23:24.55 | nymbia | which is? |
| 23:25.25 | sylvanaar | if he is checking the version number in one location you can vary that version number independantly |
| 23:25.33 | sylvanaar | to produce the same effect |
| 23:26.06 | Kirkburn | I notice it's not in the topic here - people know the intended release date of 2.0.1 is 5th/6th Dec, I hope? :) |
| 23:26.35 | nymbia | i'm still confused as to what you're getting at, sylvanaar. |
| 23:26.46 | nymbia | Kirkburn: yeah, thanks :D |
| 23:27.07 | sylvanaar | nymbia: yeah i know, it too much for me to explain i guess |
| 23:27.26 | Kirkburn | Ooh, what's happened to /files? It's not showing descriptions ... |
| 23:27.36 | Nickenyfiken | sylvanaar: is it grabbing other information from the wiki other than the revision number? |
| 23:27.51 | nymbia | well. winaceupdater does a fine job, in my opinion, and all it ever touches is /files/ |
| 23:28.49 | sylvanaar | if the forum were up id link you my topic thread |
| 23:29.08 | Nickenyfiken | hehe the forum is kinda funky now :-P |
| 23:29.16 | ckknight | yay, website's up |
| 23:29.41 | sylvanaar | i have been posting about this topic - and this tool seems like it has some real potential. |
| 23:29.42 | nymbia | Kaelten prodded them |
| 23:29.57 | sylvanaar | WAU - why isnt it on the svn? |
| 23:30.43 | sylvanaar | putting it on sourceforge means nobody here has access to it to fix issues |
| 23:31.04 | sylvanaar | it hasnt been touched in 6 weeeks |
| 23:31.20 | Kirkburn | ckknight, have you noticed that Cartographer has nearly as many revisions as Ace2 now :P |
| 23:31.46 | ckknight | Kirkburn, mmm, does this matter? |
| 23:32.08 | Kirkburn | It's just lots =) |
| 23:32.23 | Kirkburn | You're commited to commiting, one might say |
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| 23:33.34 | Kirkburn | The updates you did this morning were mostly just .toc updates, I guess (just wondering whether to manually update them or not) |
| 23:33.54 | Kirkburn | (earlier meaning 12 hrs ago) |
| 23:35.18 | ckknight | Kirkburn, well, there are quite a few modules to hack on |
| 23:35.48 | Nickenyfiken | good night |
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| 23:46.11 | DrDre | does the SATA slot on mobo matter which its plugged into if only 1 drive? |
| 23:46.23 | DrDre | i plugged it in 4 and dun wanna change if it doesnt matter >_> |
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| 23:49.03 | SP|Sorren | what do you mean? |
| 23:49.30 | SP|Sorren | your hd should remain as HDD-0 unless you add other drives |
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| 23:51.08 | Azurewrath | mhm.. doing Azuregos with a group of ten is fun :) |
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| 23:51.33 | sbu | uhm yep |
| 23:52.08 | sbu | but its more fun to start with 2-3 ppl and end up with ~20 ppl ;o (joins, ports, ...) |
| 23:52.17 | sbu | tank (+2 healers) ninja-pull :o |
| 23:52.20 | Azurewrath | haha :) |
| 23:53.19 | Baps | ace forums fall down, go boom? |
| 23:53.25 | Baps | or is it just me. |
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| 23:59.46 | sylvanaar | it looks like it does actually read latest.text btw |
