irclog2html for #wowace on 20061128

`00:00.03`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`why is my wow so retardedly slow`
`00:00.35`	`*** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@12-196-151-128.psknet.net)`
`00:00.38`	`Thrae`	`Nickenyfiken_: Maybe the Background Downloader started, it takes up a good bit of memory.`
`00:01.50`	`Thrae`	`Nickenyfiken_: My laptop only has 768MB of RAM, and it jumps down to 2FPS when the Background Downloader starts.`
`00:02.00`	`Nickenyfiken`	`oh maybe`
`00:02.05`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r18230 10StitchLib/Stitch-1.0/Stitch-1.0.lua:`
`00:02.06`	`CIA-17`	`StitchLib:`
`00:02.06`	`CIA-17`	`- Tweaks for 2.0 compatibility`
`00:02.12`	`Nickenyfiken`	`my computer crashed`
`00:02.17`	`Nickenyfiken`	`couldnt do anything`
`00:02.42`	`*** join/#wowace [Wobin] (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au)`
`00:02.45`	`Nickenyfiken`	`wow + gimp + 5000 firefox tabs and AV running updates was too much i guess`
`00:03.01`	`Thrae`	`Firefox takes up a LOT of memory`
`00:03.19`	`Thrae`	`And some Bookmark sync addons can eat up all CPU time, if you have any`
`00:03.29`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/png/ BUTTSECKS!`
`00:03.42`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yup`
`00:04.15`	`*** part/#wowace [nd] (n=nd@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at)`
`00:04.22`	`Troox`	`can anyone give me a hint to fix the colors of archud2 bars? i have a link to a screenshot on wowinterface that shows what i mean... can/should i post it here?`
`00:04.51`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: if you want the demon and pet, gief or i'll sleep :)`
`00:05.10`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i dont know what the icons look like hmm`
`00:05.19`	`Nickenyfiken`	`maybe we can do that tomorrow instead?`
`00:05.43`	`Mikma`	`shadowform icon and .. something for pet`
`00:06.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ok`
`00:06.52`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.thottbot.com/?s=shadowform like that?`
`00:07.17`	`Amadeo`	`Speaking of Shadow...anyone else think the new Shadowguard graphic is sexy?`
`00:07.44`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Spell_Shadow_Shadowform.jpg`
`00:07.47`	`Mikma`	`yeah just like that`
`00:07.58`	`Mikma`	`i'm not sure which of those is correct, checking now`
`00:08.10`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ok the one with green eyes?`
`00:08.18`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ok`
`00:08.18`	`Mikma`	`propably`
`00:08.20`	`Mikma`	`checking`
`00:08.37`	`*** join/#wowace Wobble (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au)`
`00:08.51`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: not sure about the pet-trainer, pick some picture (ie. wolf)`
`00:09.12`	`Amadeo`	`Bah, I guess I am ;)`
`00:09.21`	`Amadeo`	`But the new Shadowguard makes me want to reroll a Troll Priest :P`
`00:09.57`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: the green one is correct`
`00:10.09`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.nickenyfiken.com/TrainerFu/Spell_Shadow_Shadowform.tga`
`00:10.13`	`Nargiddley`	`is this for a demon trainer ?`
`00:10.19`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yup`
`00:10.34`	`Nickenyfiken`	`pet hmm`
`00:10.38`	`Nargiddley`	`voidwalker icon uses the white eyes if thats what you're after`
`00:10.40`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: oh ...`
`00:10.46`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=Pet`
`00:10.48`	`Mikma`	`good icons there`
`00:10.55`	`Mikma`	`the whistle or the biscuit are good`
`00:11.20`	`Amadeo`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2470306229255338918&q=Shadowguard`
`00:11.20`	`Amadeo`	`see!`
`00:11.24`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah`
`00:11.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`or http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Ability_Hunter_BeastCall02.jpg ?`
`00:12.22`	`Nickenyfiken`	`but i like the whistle i think`
`00:12.53`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/INV_Box_PetCarrier_01.jpg hehe :-P`
`00:13.19`	`Nickenyfiken`	`or http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Ability_Hunter_MendPet.jpg`
`00:13.43`	`Nickenyfiken`	`or http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Spell_Nature_SpiritWolf.jpg`
`00:13.56`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: either whistle, biscuit or wolf`
`00:14.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`whistle > biscuit > wolf`
`00:14.43`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i think`
`00:14.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`whats your opinion?`
`00:15.12`	`DrDre`	`daksmak is stuck in debug mode and so is ElfBuffBar >_>`
`00:16.43`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: i'm not sure, pick one :D`
`00:16.49`	`Mikma`	`i like the wlof`
`00:17.25`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah the wolf is a pet so it may represent it best`
`00:17.48`	`Nickenyfiken`	`make the wolf`
`00:17.54`	`Mikma`	`well let's try it and see what happens`
`00:17.58`	`Mikma`	`it may shrink too small`
`00:19.14`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: ooooh, http://i.thottbot.com/en/Interface/Icons/Spell_Holy_BlessingOfAgility.jpg`
`00:20.02`	`Nickenyfiken`	`oh hot!`
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`00:25.38`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Mikma: hmm blacksmithing2 is bad hmm`
`00:25.43`	`Mikma`	`how come`
`00:25.59`	`Nickenyfiken`	`its just a black dot...`
`00:26.24`	`Mikma`	`umm, i'll reupload it`
`00:26.38`	`Nickenyfiken`	`nevermind`
`00:26.45`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i dl from the wrong folder i think`
`00:26.57`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/tga/ is right?`
`00:27.01`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`00:27.08`	`Mikma`	`i reuploaded it now, try it`
`00:27.23`	`Nickenyfiken`	`its find now`
`00:27.25`	`Nickenyfiken`	`thanks`
`00:27.48`	`Mikma`	`upload the pet-icon and i'll do it before i'm off`
`00:30.09`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.nickenyfiken.com/TrainerFu/Spell_Holy_BlessingOfAgility.tga`
`00:30.50`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yes got that stupid code to work`
`00:31.09`	`Nickenyfiken`	`it never goes well when i try to copy/paste to much`
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`00:34.14`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: the correct picture for demon-trainer would have been the purple-eyed picture ;)`
`00:34.26`	`Nickenyfiken`	`oh`
`00:34.50`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`00:35.21`	`Mikma`	`doesn't matter tho`
`00:35.30`	`Mikma`	`it's so small that people won't notice the difference`
`00:35.36`	`Mikma`	`if they do, it's still ok`
`00:35.36`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/tga/Pet2.tga`
`00:37.04`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/png/Demon2.png and http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/png/Pet2.png`
`00:37.11`	`Mikma`	`i say the Pet2 is pretty damn nice`
`00:37.33`	`Nickenyfiken`	`http://www.nickenyfiken.com/TrainerFu/Spell_Shadow_SummonVoidWalker.tga ok you got it if you want to remake it sometime`
`00:37.41`	`Nickenyfiken`	`you dont have to`
`00:37.55`	`Mikma`	`well do you want the original or shadowform icon?`
`00:38.03`	`Nickenyfiken`	`omg that icon rules`
`00:38.10`	`Mikma`	`the original might be too dark`
`00:38.22`	`Mikma`	`and yes, the icon rocks :)`
`00:38.33`	`Nickenyfiken`	`no we keep the old one`
`00:38.55`	`Mikma`	`yeah, compare the 2 and you'll see that the green-eyed is better in smaller scale`
`00:39.11`	`Mikma`	`the other will get too dark and people don't realize wtf it is`
`00:40.08`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken: but, highlight me with test if you need something to be done. I'm off to sleepyland now and 7h in school after beautydreams... after that i'll look my awaylog and see if something needs to be done :)`
`00:40.30`	`Mikma`	`i think that Pet2.png can be used as webpage-icon too, it's that cool. peace out`
`00:40.53`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah awsome work Mikma`
`00:41.09`	`Nickenyfiken`	`have fun in school. im free from it until wednesday :-)`
`00:42.00`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r18231 10Automaton/modules/AutoQueue.lua:`
`00:42.00`	`CIA-17`	`Automaton:`
`00:42.00`	`CIA-17`	`- I am sorry. There was a mistake in log recording.`
`00:42.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Added AutoFilter.lua with add made by Phanx`
`00:42.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated AutoDismount.lua with changes made by Phanx`
`00:42.00`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated localization koKR`
`00:50.54`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r18232 10AutoBarConfig/AutoBarConfigSlot.lua:`
`00:50.54`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBarConfig:`
`00:50.55`	`CIA-17`	`-Wrap up pre 2.0 changes`
`00:52.07`	`ckknight`	`Nickenyfiken, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer/Notes`
`00:52.12`	`ckknight`	`finally documented`
`00:52.39`	`Nickenyfiken`	`oh sweet :-)`
`00:55.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`is 16x16px default?`
`00:55.51`	`ckknight`	`Cartographer itself is documented`
`00:55.53`	`ckknight`	`yes, Nickenyfiken`
`00:55.54`	`ckknight`	`it says that.`
`00:56.30`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ah then i can remove all those values in my table`
`00:56.42`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`00:59.44`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`ck, do you know if there is still a set limit on the number of icons you can show on the map?`
`00:59.56`	`ckknight`	`no limit.`
`01:00.04`	`ckknight`	`well, limited by your RAM`
`01:00.36`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`ah ok, remembered something about a limit mapnotes was hitting`
`01:00.40`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r18233 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Food/PTEmbedElemFood.lua:`
`01:00.40`	`CIA-17`	`PeriodicTable:`
`01:00.40`	`CIA-17`	`- foodbread + 20857:61`
`01:00.59`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`but it's a moot point now since I'll be using Carto instead of that and a lot of other stuff`
`01:01.44`	`ckknight`	`it is possible that you can only hold like 2000 on the map or something`
`01:01.46`	`ckknight`	`I just don't know`
`01:02.12`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`guess I could always try :P and see what happens hehe`
`01:03.10`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18234 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - minor bugfixes`
`01:03.12`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, should add battleground notes to the instancenotes module`
`01:03.21`	`kergoth`	`just the locations of the towers and gy's and stuff`
`01:03.26`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, sounds good to me`
`01:03.28`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`wish lists kerg wish list :P`
`01:03.43`	`ckknight`	`don't expect me to do that, though`
`01:03.49`	`ckknight`	`I don't play WoW, so I don't know where things go`
`01:03.51`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`01:03.54`	`kergoth`	`i dont, just throwing it out there`
`01:03.59`	`ckknight`	`I mean, I know WSG sorta`
`01:04.01`	`kergoth`	`if i want something added to instancenotes, i'll go add it my damn self`
`01:04.06`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`01:04.07`	`ckknight`	`hehe.`
`01:04.10`	`ckknight`	`sounds good`
`01:04.12`	`kergoth`	`hmmm`
`01:04.16`	`kergoth`	`still need loot tables`
`01:04.17`	`kergoth`	`nymbia, ping`
`01:04.19`	`ckknight`	`I know you're good for it`
`01:04.22`	`ckknight`	`hrm, yea`
`01:04.27`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I know all of the BG's except Eye of course`
`01:05.02`	`ckknight`	`I haven't coded in support for eye yet`
`01:05.37`	`ckknight`	`primarily, I don't know the filename for the map`
`01:06.20`	`nymbia`	`kergoth, pongf`
`01:06.27`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r18235 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarItemList.lua Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-koKR.lua):`
`01:06.27`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`01:06.28`	`CIA-17`	`-Wrap up pre 2.0 changes`
`01:06.35`	`*** join/#wowace sergio (n=sp@unaffiliated/sergio)`
`01:07.13`	`ckknight`	`my guess is EyeOfTheStorm`
`01:07.15`	`ckknight`	`but I can't be sure`
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`01:08.07`	`kergoth`	`nymbia, just curious if you got anywhere on the loot tables stuff. do we still need to do a periodiclocale and a pt-2.0 instances module?`
`01:09.17`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`really wish they'd get the wdb working again`
`01:09.28`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`unless of course they feel they've got it worked out so it isn't needed anymore`
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`01:11.45`	`kergoth`	`Garoun\|Loupana, yea i dont get that :\`
`01:11.46`	`nymbia`	`kergoth, i havent spent much time on it. i'll take a look this evening sometime.. as far a PT2 goes, is there no instance data in there yet? i know tekkub wanted to rework it a bit.`
`01:11.53`	`nymbia`	`i need to look at that dataminer too.`
`01:11.53`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: would it be a bad idea to be able to set a default icon width and height for all icons in a particular DB?`
`01:12.04`	`kergoth`	`i dont think so, doesnt look like all the pt modules have been updated to 2.0 yet`
`01:12.20`	`ckknight`	`Nickenyfiken, just do it per-icon`
`01:12.40`	`Tekkub`	`PT2 has little to nothing in it`
`01:13.23`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r18236 10AutoBar/AutoBar.toc:`
`01:13.23`	`CIA-17`	`AutoBar:`
`01:13.23`	`CIA-17`	`-touch toc`
`01:13.28`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: my thought was to let the player alter the icon size... but it might be doable anyway i guess`
`01:13.58`	`nymbia`	`Tekkub: ok. would it be unwise for us to start building data for it at this point or..`
`01:14.02`	`ckknight`	`technically you could change the icon data table and refresh the map, Nickenyfiken`
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`01:14.33`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: yup`
`01:14.40`	`Tekkub`	`build away`
`01:14.56`	`Tekkub`	`just try for "user friendly" indexes`
`01:15.08`	`kergoth`	`no more compressed lowercase stuff right`
`01:15.10`	`Tekkub`	`instead of the lowercase condensed ones from PT1`
`01:15.32`	`Tekkub`	`my intent was to totally rebuild the loot tables with the dataminer`
`01:16.04`	`kergoth`	`nymbia, you want to work on building up new data for pt2 and i'll yank crap out of mendy for a periodiclocale lib? we'll want both for the loot tables cart module`
`01:16.26`	`nymbia`	`ok`
`01:16.49`	`ckknight`	`first: does the Eye of the Storm exist yet?`
`01:16.55`	`nymbia`	`yes`
`01:17.08`	`*** part/#wowace [nd] (n=nd@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at)`
`01:17.57`	`ckknight`	`okay, I need to know what GetMapInfo() says when you're inside.`
`01:18.34`	`nymbia`	`lemme log in and queue up..`
`01:19.41`	`ckknight`	`found it`
`01:19.44`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`that wsa my main problem nymbia, I couldn't even get in because no one was playing`
`01:19.46`	`ckknight`	`NetherstormArena`
`01:21.09`	`ckknight`	`thanks anyway, nymbia`
`01:21.14`	`nymbia`	`good thing, cuz there's no games up, heh :)`
`01:21.27`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`hasn't been one in the last 5 days or so`
`01:21.32`	`alcaras`	`on beta?`
`01:21.40`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`all the 70s are pvping in hellfire bleh`
`01:21.41`	`alcaras`	`no rated arenas 3v3 or 5v5 :-/ just spent a long time in queu with no luck`
`01:21.43`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`or Nagrand`
`01:22.11`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`because the gryphon stands in Nagrand have become the new WSG graveyard/LHC grpyhon master`
`01:22.26`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18237 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/Battlegrounds.lua): Cartographer - added support for Eye of the Storm`
`01:22.33`	`ckknight`	`there we go`
`01:23.13`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I'll just have to get that new version and give it a go :)`
`01:23.55`	`TheKarn`	`well this will be fun, time to delve into writing a mod from scratch :) time to welcome myself to Lua.`
`01:24.03`	`ckknight`	`TheKarn, good stuff.`
`01:24.06`	`ckknight`	`that's how I did it.`
`01:24.09`	`ckknight`	`head first`
`01:24.12`	`TheKarn`	`lol`
`01:24.21`	`TheKarn`	`your choice of editor?`
`01:24.25`	`ckknight`	`Notepad2`
`01:24.31`	`TheKarn`	`i'm using Notepad++`
`01:24.31`	`ckknight`	`(with lua lexer)`
`01:24.38`	`TheKarn`	`wonder what the difference is lol`
`01:24.43`	`ckknight`	`probably not much`
`01:24.50`	`ckknight`	`I like what I'm using`
`01:24.52`	`ckknight`	`it works for me`
`01:24.55`	`ckknight`	`and it doesn't get in my way`
`01:25.25`	`TheKarn`	`i like the code-folding in notepad++`
`01:25.33`	`TheKarn`	`helps when navigating large source ;)`
`01:25.48`	`kergoth`	`if your source is that big, you should fix that ;)`
`01:25.55`	`TheKarn`	`hehe`
`01:26.01`	`TheKarn`	`its not very big at the momen`
`01:26.06`	`TheKarn`	`its ... well ... 0kb`
`01:26.25`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`01:27.42`	`*** join/#wowace Thelin (n=jens@84.112.42.225)`
`01:27.46`	`Thelin`	`Hi everyone!`
`01:28.23`	`*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken_ (n=chatzill@83.145.59.23)`
`01:29.16`	`beerke`	`Hope any bigwigs devs are here as i have some question or kinda feature request...`
`01:29.31`	`Thelin`	`does anyone know if there is a way to get ChangeActionBarPage to work in combat in 2.0?`
`01:29.34`	`ckknight`	`hey Thelin`
`01:29.39`	`ckknight`	`TheKarn, what're you making?`
`01:29.55`	`TheKarn`	`heh ... something nice and simple i hope, and of all things something i wanted in bigwigs :P`
`01:29.57`	`Thelin`	`i try to do it when i change target, but while in combat it is simply ignored....`
`01:29.59`	`TheKarn`	`Manual timers`
`01:30.39`	`ckknight`	`using CandyBar?`
`01:30.41`	`TheKarn`	`so you can either use a fubar plugin (when i get around to working that bit out) or slash command/macro to start/modify/stop a timer`
`01:30.42`	`TheKarn`	`yeah`
`01:30.48`	`beerke`	`Currently when you have a plugin for bigwigs, and it is a broadcasting type of plugin then bossblock will bloack the announce/warnings by default. Is it somehow possible to incoorperate that bossblock only blocks announcements for plugins that are actually installed, and let announcements pass for plugins that are not installed at the client ?`
`01:30.51`	`ckknight`	`sounds good.`
`01:30.53`	`TheKarn`	`shouldnt be too difficult i hope`
`01:31.06`	`ckknight`	`probably not.`
`01:31.11`	`ckknight`	`seems like a good idea, though`
`01:32.15`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`god, don't tell me I just posted an idea that's already in carto :/`
`01:32.23`	`Thelin`	`the information about the 2.0 api is still....somewhat....limited ;)`
`01:32.31`	`ckknight`	`Garoun\|Loupana, what'd you post?`
`01:32.41`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`having 2-3 presets you can switch between`
`01:32.48`	`ckknight`	`press ALT-M`
`01:33.06`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I like shrinking the map and moving it up but never could get it to reset properly :P`
`01:33.24`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`yeah, dunno how I missed that reading through the wish list, sigh`
`01:33.52`	`ckknight`	`it's in the completed section`
`01:34.06`	`ckknight`	`how big can textures be in WoW?`
`01:34.09`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`yeah saw, it right after I hit save changes lol`
`01:34.20`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I'll delete mine out`
`01:34.25`	`ckknight`	`please do`
`01:34.53`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`all clean :)`
`01:35.24`	`ckknight`	`and it's not just size/location like you asked for`
`01:35.27`	`ckknight`	`it's everything ;-)`
`01:36.16`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`k k :) I'll still just be using the location stuff hehe, I was never very good at understanding the ACE profiles stuff ;/`
`01:36.53`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I know it's not hard, I always managed to blow up my main config in the process :x`
`01:37.30`	`TheKarn`	`is there any benefit to me attempting this addon using AceOO isntead of Ace2?`
`01:37.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`AceOO is Ace2`
`01:38.07`	`TheKarn`	`ok`
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`02:05.45`	`kergoth`	`hmmm`
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`02:16.36`	`Rodana`	`it seems to run fine on Win2k...`
`02:18.26`	`Nickenyfiken`	`probably because the authour havent tried it on earlier win versions`
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`02:27.47`	`CIA-17`	`03nickenyfiken * r18238 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (29 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_TrainerFu: MapNote module is rewritten to show icons on the map depending on what class/profession trainer it is. Thank Mikma for the awsome icons!`
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`02:39.43`	`mjc`	`Grid needs portraits.`
`02:43.18`	`kergoth`	`damnit, what addon is fucking with usecontainerbyname`
`02:43.26`	`kergoth`	`cant /use Hearthstone without wow wanting to disable Ace2 :P`
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`03:04.26`	`CIA-17`	`Automaton:`
`03:04.26`	`CIA-17`	`- Malfunctioned AutoSell.lua amendment`
`03:35.40`	`Xuerian`	`lol, mjc`
`03:47.02`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r18240 10Cartographer/Modules/Battlegrounds.lua: Cartographer - Update locals koKR`
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`04:05.40`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`bc client didn't like instance notes :(`
`04:06.02`	`kergoth`	`Garoun\|Loupana, ?`
`04:06.16`	`kergoth`	`i wrote instancenotes with the tbc client :P`
`04:06.31`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`one sec I'll get you teh errors`
`04:07.06`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`of course it probably won't recreate it this time, but we'll see`
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`04:07.42`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`ok got them for you, only Cartographer and instance notes loaded`
`04:08.02`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`addon.lua: 3, InstanceNotes already registered`
`04:08.41`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`notes.lua:139 AceLocale(Cartographer_INstanceNotes): Translation: Lvl 36 humanoid" does not exist`
`04:09.05`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`enUS.lua: Cannot provide same locale more then once, "enUS" provided twice`
`04:09.15`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`and that was:3 for enUS`
`04:09.32`	`kergoth`	`remove the seperate addon.`
`04:09.37`	`kergoth`	`cartographer includes instancenotes now`
`04:09.45`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`aah ok :)`
`04:10.08`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`that would explain it, first time using it since it looked like a good addition`
`04:11.28`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`very nice`
`04:14.09`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`hmm I'll have to make a note to CK that the Map location dropdown isn't fully going away after I select and instance which is fine, but if I click the map it still doesn't go away :P`
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`04:17.02`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`do you have a grep proggy kergoth?`
`04:17.35`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`http://astrogrep.sourceforge.net/ if not and on windows pick that up :) and just scan your addons folder`
`04:17.39`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`it's a godsend`
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`04:18.45`	`kergoth`	`i've been using linux since 95. i have grep both in cygwin and in msys on this windows box`
`04:18.50`	`kergoth`	`so.. yes :P`
`04:21.06`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`ok ok :P can't say I didn't try lol`
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`04:22.57`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`is there an auctioneer equivalent in ace?`
`04:23.49`	`FelixTeCat`	`Dont know that one`
`04:24.17`	`Xuerian`	`No.`
`04:24.31`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`didn't think so`
`04:24.32`	`Xuerian`	`There are ones that can perform various parts of what Auctioneer does, but nothing so in-depth.`
`04:24.53`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`k k :) thanks`
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`04:29.24`	`CIA-17`	`03dahn 07dahn * r18242 10DKPmonInit/DKPmonInit/: DKPmonInit: creating branch for eqDKP changes`
`04:32.50`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3164.0`
`04:32.51`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`04:34.04`	`nymbia`	`kergoth: ping`
`04:37.41`	`nymbia`	`Tekkub: ping`
`04:37.46`	`Tekkub`	`nandayo?`
`04:38.04`	`nymbia`	`what should these PT indexes look like for the instance drops?`
`04:38.51`	`Tekkub`	`["Jin'do the Hexxer"] = "....`
`04:38.59`	`nymbia`	`okie :D`
`04:39.41`	`CIA-17`	`03takadi 07TBC * r18243 10Henge/Henge/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Henge: Added counters (for reagents, cooldowns, etc.) and spell textures are back.`
`04:39.55`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`Id did he add the actaul mod name later?`
`04:53.58`	`CIA-17`	`03prandur * r18244 10DelMapa/DelMapa.lua: DelMapa: fixed tainting of Minimap_OnClick()`
`04:54.04`	Funkeh`	`nn`
`04:58.56`	`mjc`	`Xuerian: how goes`
`05:01.14`	`Xuerian`	`mjc: Fulfilling my nightly Scrubs watching ritual while idly tinkering with row highlighting. You? Something I can do for you? :P`
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`05:01.41`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`05:01.43`	`mjc`	`idk, raid leader was curious about ctraidtracker replacements :P`
`05:01.44`	`Kaelten`	`hows things goin guys?`
`05:01.45`	`mjc`	`hey ckk`
`05:02.14`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, you should check out Cartographer if you haven't already ;-)`
`05:02.21`	`ckknight`	`it's my latest project and I'm quite proud of it`
`05:02.35`	`Xuerian`	`mjc: Yeah, that's the next big project on my list. Haven't quite worked out how I'm gonna do it yet, but it's next. :P`
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`05:16.36`	`ckknight`	`Anybody play AV?`
`05:16.40`	`ckknight`	`and happen to use Cartographer?`
`05:18.45`	`Kaelten`	`havn't seen cartographer yet ck`
`05:18.45`	`ckknight`	`why don't you people talk? :-(`
`05:18.53`	`ckknight`	`alright, Kaelten`
`05:19.44`	`ckknight`	`I need someone who's been to AV to load up Cartographer, go into AV, look at the map with Foglight on, and then send me their SVs.`
`05:20.18`	`ckknight`	`we're missing the southern Frostwolf area`
`05:26.42`	`mjc`	`ckknight: queued`
`05:26.49`	`ckknight`	`thank you.`
`05:26.53`	`mjc`	`zoning`
`05:27.10`	`mjc`	`instant queues ftw`
`05:27.33`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
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`05:28.07`	`mjc`	`everything keeps popping befoer I get togo eat. blah`
`05:28.13`	`mjc`	`brb`
`05:32.03`	`mjc`	`done, let me put the SV somewhere`
`05:33.53`	`mjc`	`ckknight: http://325i.org/Cartographer.lua`
`05:34.38`	`mjc`	`ckknight: ["FROSTWOLFKEEP"] = 403071863019,`
`05:35.31`	`ckknight`	`thank you`
`05:35.41`	`mjc`	`yep`
`05:36.36`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18245 10Cartographer/Modules/Foglight.lua: Cartographer-Foglight - added Alterac Valley - Frostwolf Keep`
`05:38.45`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: If I want to display SilverDragon's data in Cartographer is there a way to do that without duplication, or should I just add map notes?`
`05:38.58`	`ckknight`	`what do you mean?`
`05:39.05`	`ckknight`	`you want to add map notes?`
`05:39.40`	`ckknight`	`I documented all of Cartographer's API: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer and http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer/Notes`
`05:40.54`	`Kemayo`	`Ah, I didn't see the Notes API page. I think SetCustomNote might well be what I want.`
`05:40.55`	`Kemayo`	`Thanks!`
`05:43.36`	`ckknight`	`alright`
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`05:43.40`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18246 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - uses a Deformatted "You perform %s on %s."`
`05:43.52`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18247 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - uses a Deformatted "You perform %s on %s."`
`05:44.04`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo, keep your own notes DB.`
`05:55.18`	`mjc`	`god fucking dammit people`
`05:56.32`	`Xuerian`	`o.0`
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`05:56.44`	`Xuerian`	`<.<`
`05:57.57`	`Tem`	`mjc, ?`
`05:58.05`	`kergoth`	`mjc: i dont mind either hard tabs or spaces, but when people edit someone elses code and change it to their style, rather than conforming to the existing one, that pisses me off`
`05:58.08`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`05:58.22`	`mjc`	`spaces fucking rule you all`
`05:58.33`	`mjc`	`tab should be banished from existance`
`05:58.42`	`mjc`	`it serves no enforcable purpose`
`05:58.47`	`Tem`	`mjc, what exactly are you about to do?`
`05:58.50`	`kergoth`	`personally, i prefer the tabs-for-indentation spaces-for-alignment style, as it gives the benefits of both worlds without either of the negatives`
`05:59.05`	`mjc`	`ew+`
`05:59.10`	`kergoth`	`hard tabs allow anyone to view your code in the style they prefer, thats a definate benefit, though exactly how beneficial that is depends on the person`
`05:59.21`	`mjc`	`editing that blows`
`05:59.26`	`kergoth`	`you have to use a capable editor to manage the combination of the two without fucking it up`
`05:59.27`	`Tem`	`but I use spaces`
`05:59.33`	`mjc`	`I just say fuck it, spaces only`
`05:59.34`	`kergoth`	`and if its a collaborative codebase, its bound to get fucked up`
`06:00.11`	`kergoth`	`mm, sure are nice upgrades out of those easy ass instances in hellfire peninsula`
`06:00.26`	`ckknight`	`I use tabs`
`06:00.27`	`kergoth`	`though i look like a jackass now with this mismatched gear`
`06:00.35`	`ckknight`	`I don't like when people fuck up my code with spaces`
`06:00.37`	`Tem`	`kergoth, you should see my mage`
`06:00.38`	`kergoth`	`makes me miss my old spiffy looking t1/t2 combination`
`06:00.42`	`ckknight`	`mostly cause it's different`
`06:00.46`	`Tem`	`I was full t2`
`06:00.55`	`Tem`	`now I look like a fucking circuis clown`
`06:01.01`	`Xuerian`	`Spaces are ebil.`
`06:01.04`	`Xuerian`	`<.<`
`06:01.18`	`MentalPower`	`mjcspaces force the viewer to display the number of spaces you intend, tabs give the viewer the freedom to display that indentation in any way shape or form`
`06:02.23`	`MentalPower`	`we enforce tabs as indentation and kill all trailing whitespace for consistency in auctioneer`
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`06:04.19`	`mjc`	`MentalPower: it'd be nice if that ever, ever worked`
`06:04.33`	`MentalPower`	`when does it not?`
`06:04.43`	`mjc`	`when there are more than two editors`
`06:04.46`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`SPACES 4 LIFE! Tabs is fo' suckas, yo!`
`06:05.13`	`MentalPower`	`how does two editors matter when you use tabs and not matter when you use spaces?`
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`06:05.43`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Yo, I bust a cap in any mofo be jackin MY code wif dem TAB shizzles!`
`06:05.54`	`Xuerian`	`~whalenutshot Neuro_Medivh`
`06:06.03`	`purl`	`ACTION smashes Neuro_Medivh in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo`
`06:06.03`	`mjc`	`MentalPower: the possibility of editor X or even thought process X inserting one when the other is "intended" =nightmare`
`06:06.16`	`mjc`	`same thing for fucking CR/LF`
`06:06.34`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`dont be listenin' to these hatahs, mjc! Don't let them do you like Tupac! KEEP IT REAL!`
`06:06.41`	`MentalPower`	`oh please, SVN talkes care of CR/LF quite nicely`
`06:06.52`	`Xuerian`	`unix mode on all files ftw.`
`06:07.05`	`ckknight`	`svn:endline = native`
`06:07.07`	`mjc`	`MentalPower: eol-style isn't a be-all end all`
`06:07.14`	`ckknight`	`that's it, mjc`
`06:07.21`	`ckknight`	`what's wrong with eol-style?`
`06:07.29`	`MentalPower`	`yeah, whats wrong with it`
`06:07.34`	`MentalPower`	`works quite fine here`
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`06:09.00`	`mjc`	`ckknight: when someone eidts a file and ignores the style`
`06:09.04`	`Tekkub`	`time to smite indie some!`
`06:09.09`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3164.0#msg62021`
`06:09.43`	`kergoth`	`mjc: svn:eol-style = native ensures that itll always match their expectations.`
`06:09.51`	`kergoth`	`and if they do fuck it up, svn wont allow the checkin`
`06:10.11`	`kergoth`	`seems like an end-all be-all to me`
`06:10.19`	`kergoth`	`people do need to learn how to use their editors properly though`
`06:10.21`	`kergoth`	`in general`
`06:11.14`	`MentalPower`	`and even for tabs vs. spaces, the repository's admins can enforce the policy`
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`06:13.16`	`MentalPower`	`be it manually or with a pre-commit hook`
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`06:18.58`	`Tem`	`or socially`
`06:19.12`	`Tem`	`either way, svn was NOT designed to do what we use it for`
`06:19.24`	`Tem`	`s/what we use it for/the way we use it/`
`06:20.23`	`Tem`	`s/do what we use it for/be used the way we do/`
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`06:21.00`	`Tem`	`why bother?`
`06:21.08`	`Tem`	`any decent editor can do that for you`
`06:21.17`	`mjc`	`too many files to open`
`06:21.34`	`mjc`	`too lazy to open them all in emacs`
`06:27.10`	`Kaelten`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXm8x4-Zd8`
`06:27.16`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r18248 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: TradeskillInfo : TradeskillData.lua wasn't updated to svn for some reason. SVN didn't pickup it was modified.`
`06:27.34`	`Kaelten`	`something about the christopher walken in that one makes me laugh a lot`
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`06:29.02`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: what is cartographer?`
`06:29.10`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I've come to really like QI`
`06:29.14`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, Ace2 Metamap`
`06:29.16`	`ckknight`	`essentially.`
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`06:29.28`	`ckknight`	`there's more to it than that, though`
`06:29.38`	`Kaelten`	`cool`
`06:29.50`	`ckknight`	`made to be as efficient as possible`
`06:30.06`	`ckknight`	`with features stolen from all around.`
`06:30.23`	`ckknight`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer`
`06:32.43`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`so when do we get CT-Ace?`
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`06:41.15`	`oxman`	`HI.`
`06:41.15`	`oxman`	`;p`
`06:41.15`	`MentalPower_`	`Greywind: what about CTAceMos?`
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`06:47.16`	`ckknight_`	`blah`
`06:49.45`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18249 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer-LookNFeel - For battlegrounds, outer parts of the map are not seen as overlay, but the inner parts are.`
`06:49.54`	`ckknight`	`^-- please test.`
`06:49.59`	`ckknight`	`should be very pimp`
`06:55.45`	`CIA-17`	`03kodewulf * r18250 10School/ (10 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`06:55.45`	`CIA-17`	`School`
`06:55.45`	`CIA-17`	`* Updated CREDITS.TXT`
`06:55.45`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:55.45`	`CIA-17`	`* Updated FuBar plugin`
`06:55.46`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:55.46`	`sergio`	`screenshots or it didn't happen`
`06:55.48`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:56.43`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, there's a bug of some sort when you have a battleground map, then zone and it switches to the new zone's map. its like the battleground map and the new zone map are somehow both merged in the display`
`06:56.48`	`kergoth`	`just hop on a flight path, pull up a map of wsg, and wait for the zone and you'll see what i mean`
`06:57.00`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`06:57.04`	`kergoth`	`at least, it did it to me once, i'll see if i can duplicate it again`
`06:57.05`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`06:57.12`	`kergoth`	`was just checking out your overlay change`
`06:57.13`	`kergoth`	`looks nice`
`06:57.31`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, well, what function is called when the map changes?`
`06:57.48`	`ckknight`	`actually, WORLD_MAP_UPDATE would work as well`
`06:57.52`	`sergio`	`is Cartographer only for 2.0+`
`06:57.56`	`ckknight`	`no`
`06:57.59`	`ckknight`	`it works in both, sergio`
`07:00.18`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, commit coming`
`07:00.48`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18251 10Cartographer/Modules/Battlegrounds.lua: Cartographer-Battlegrounds - should fix bug when switching between zones`
`07:06.04`	`Kemayo`	`Hmm... LFG is suddenly flooded with people saying the patch is coming tomorrow...`
`07:09.37`	`sergio`	`I just updated from svn and the battleground maps don't work`
`07:10.20`	`sergio`	`is it a seperate module all together`
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`07:14.36`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo, does that help?`
`07:14.37`	`ckknight`	`kergoth*`
`07:18.24`	`sergio`	`are there no images for bgs yet or is it just me?`
`07:18.40`	`ckknight`	`there are...`
`07:19.00`	`ckknight`	`what shows on your screen?`
`07:19.14`	`Kalamadi`	`Kemayo: I seriously doubt the patch is coming. There's no extended maintenance.`
`07:19.15`	`ckknight`	`oh crap`
`07:19.19`	`ckknight`	`that was the last commit, sergio`
`07:19.20`	`ckknight`	`lemme fix`
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`07:24.12`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r18252 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua:`
`07:24.12`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs_LoathebTactical :`
`07:24.12`	`CIA-17`	`- Update locals koKR`
`07:24.47`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18253 10Cartographer/Modules/Battlegrounds.lua: Cartographer-Battlegrounds - bugfix from last commit`
`07:24.55`	`ckknight`	`sergio, there.`
`07:25.17`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r18254 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer-LookNFeel - added option to make the player POI 1.5x larger (on by default)`
`07:25.24`	`ckknight`	`also that could be helpful.`
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`07:26.52`	`sergio`	`see i'm not crazy`
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`07:27.27`	`ckknight`	`sergio, it should work now, test it out.`
`07:29.19`	`sergio`	`will setting modules inactive help with load times or do i have to actually take them out of the toc`
`07:29.32`	`ckknight`	`take em out of the toc`
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`07:30.59`	`Dhraga`	`guys, are any of you familiar with the different log range settings ?`
`07:31.27`	`Dhraga`	`Example : http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5694`
`07:31.42`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, woot, thanks for the player poi thing, the crappy visibility of the player poi has bugged me in wow for ages`
`07:31.52`	`ckknight`	`it looks better now`
`07:31.57`	`ckknight`	`not intrusive, but actually visible.`
`07:32.23`	`ckknight`	`Dhraga, haste made a mod like that`
`07:32.35`	`Dhraga`	`oh, any name of it ?`
`07:32.39`	`Iceroth`	`oTweaks`
`07:32.42`	`ckknight`	`that's it.`
`07:32.49`	`Dhraga`	`Thanks, guys`
`07:33.23`	`Dhraga`	`Seccond question, are there any log range setting (that you know of) that will extend the log range when it comes to loot ?`
`07:33.33`	`sergio`	`ckknight works fine now (bg maps)`
`07:33.35`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, I think Cart's almost "done"`
`07:35.03`	`Dhraga`	`The reason I ask is due to the oDKP and nDKP requires the reciver of the loot to be close for it to register, I was looking for a way to extend the rang so the raid can move on while ML / DKP is beeing handled`
`07:35.27`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r18255 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer - Update locals koKR`
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`07:41.41`	`Iceroth`	`mhmh.. is there any addon that would provide more info about that "addon xx has done an action that is reserved only for blizz ui"?`
`07:42.08`	`ckknight`	`BugSack`
`07:42.19`	`ckknight`	`also may want to check out TaintChecker`
`07:42.59`	`Iceroth`	`k, gotta do that.. i've now catched icehud doing it twice and i have no idea how to reproduce it`
`07:45.13`	`Dhraga`	`haste seemes afk, question ckknight or Iceroth... the oTweak extends the range for creature, friendlyplayers, friendlyplayerpets, hostileplayers, hostileplayerpets, party, partypets and death..... Is there a range for raid & raidpets ?`
`07:46.35`	`ckknight`	`pass.`
`07:46.39`	`Tem`	`included in party*`
`07:47.03`	`ckknight`	`hrm, Tem?`
`07:47.23`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`ckknight, ?`
`07:47.33`	`ckknight`	`included in party?`
`07:47.39`	`Dhraga`	`Tem, so the party range includes the raid range ?`
`07:47.42`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`yes`
`07:47.59`	`Dhraga`	`Tem, before you meet up with your pillow....`
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`07:48.02`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`ie, synced damage meters are fucking dumb`
`07:48.09`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`just extend your range :)`
`07:48.21`	`Dhraga`	`Does the loot go under combat log ?`
`07:48.26`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`no :(`
`07:48.37`	`Dhraga`	`Anyway to extend the loot range for dkp addons ?`
`07:48.43`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`there might be`
`07:48.47`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`but it's unknown to us`
`07:48.57`	`Dhraga`	`Ok, thank you =)`
`07:49.03`	`Dhraga`	`Have a nice nap`
`07:49.03`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`all of these 'options' are CVars that people figured out`
`07:49.11`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`'nap' hehe`
`07:49.13`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`it's 2 am`
`07:49.20`	`Dhraga`	`hehe =)... yes short nap`
`07:50.17`	`Meiun`	`patch this week? :o`
`07:50.20`	`Meiun`	`i must know!`
`07:50.42`	`Iceroth`	`doubtful`
`07:51.27`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`no`
`07:51.43`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`a week from tomorrow is possible but still not likely`
`07:51.55`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`I'd guess patch on the 12`
`07:52.13`	`Meiun`	`thats too bad ;<`
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`08:23.52`	`Kemayo`	`Snerk. My SO (editor at a publisher) just got a short story submission where the author included a naked picture of himself.`
`08:24.34`	`kergoth`	`"There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it."`
`08:26.32`	`Dhraga`	`btw, have there been any dkp addons done in ace ?`
`08:26.50`	`ckknight`	`lol, Kemayo`
`08:27.40`	`ckknight`	`is wowwiki down?`
`08:28.06`	`Dhraga`	`nm foiund DKPmon`
`08:31.32`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r18256 10oRA2/Leader/ (Durability.lua Resist.lua): oRA2: prevent people frmo appearing twice in durability or resistance checks`
`08:31.53`	`Dhraga`	`How many of your guilds use the NDKP ?'`
`08:34.04`	`Elkano`	`ckknight, how do I disable a group of notes added by an addon? School's notes even showed up after disableing it. Or is it schools fault for having them register the wrong way?`
`08:34.18`	`ckknight`	`School's fault.`
`08:34.45`	`ckknight`	`School should be registering its own DB, adding notes to that DB, and unregistering the DB on disable`
`08:35.17`	`Elkano`	`ok, I thought so ^^`
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`08:36.46`	`KaeltenAway`	`night guys`
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`08:38.19`	`Iceroth`	`so umh.. if i can't show/hide frames in combat, how the heck should i show/hide target frame?`
`08:38.50`	`Fritti`	`there is a SecureUnitStateHeader I think that can securely hide/show based on a unit's existance`
`08:39.26`	`Iceroth`	`ah, so i'm looking from the wrong place then..`
`08:39.36`	`Nargiddley`	`you wanting to do it based on if a target exists ?`
`08:39.38`	`Fritti`	`not sure about it though, haven't used it myself`
`08:39.52`	`Iceroth`	`Nargiddley, yes`
`08:40.32`	`Nargiddley`	`theres a function to do that for you, RegisterWatch or something. Trying to find the post on the bliz forums describing it`
`08:41.25`	`Nargiddley`	`RegisterUnitWatch(frame)`
`08:44.49`	`Nargiddley`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6592`
`08:44.59`	`Nargiddley`	`someone asking pretty much the same question`
`08:45.24`	`Iceroth`	`nice, thanks`
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`08:48.40`	`Tekkub`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34154316&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`08:48.47`	`Tekkub`	`I like posts that start like that :)`
`08:49.11`	`Iceroth`	`:p`
`08:49.36`	`Tekkub`	`coconut Lifesavers... interesting`
`08:49.56`	`Tekkub`	`makes me think Almond Joy`
`08:50.03`	`Tekkub`	`cause Almod Joy's got nuts`
`08:50.10`	`Tekkub`	`I don't like Mounds`
`08:50.33`	`Tekkub`	`cause Mounds don't`
`08:53.50`	`Tekkub`	`noone's listening to me ramble... and here I had a great addon idea I was going to share`
`08:53.57`	`Tekkub`	`no matter, I'll just keep it to myself`
`08:54.30`	`Iceroth`	`this is getting somewhat weird.. i got "action blocked" from my ToT frame but my hud target frame works just fine even in combat without any changes :s`
`08:55.09`	`Nargiddley`	`is the tot frame clickable ?`
`08:55.14`	`Iceroth`	`they both are`
`08:55.57`	`Iceroth`	`only difference i can spot right now is that the clickable part of target frame is parented to another frame of which's visibility i alter`
`08:56.12`	`Nargiddley`	`that would do it`
`08:56.14`	`Iceroth`	`and tot frame is changed 'directly'`
`08:56.15`	`Fritti`	`that taints`
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`08:58.11`	`Nargiddley`	`using the secure templates for both frames ?`
`08:58.22`	`Iceroth`	`no`
`08:58.27`	`Nargiddley`	`k`
`08:58.38`	`Nargiddley`	`cant do any targeting or spellcasting without using them`
`08:59.18`	`Nargiddley`	`that'll be whats giving the addon blocked errors`
`09:00.23`	`Iceroth`	`ah so it doesn't mind that i have a "clickable" frame, it just wouldn't allow much interaction with it`
`09:00.31`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah`
`09:00.31`	`Iceroth`	`right-clicking works though`
`09:01.14`	`Nargiddley`	`what does right clicking do ?`
`09:01.26`	`Nargiddley`	`i should just start wow heh`
`09:01.28`	`Iceroth`	`what it does for the normal frame, opens the menu`
`09:01.34`	`Nargiddley`	`i use the things, just not the ToT frame`
`09:01.43`	`Nargiddley`	`or target info`
`09:02.20`	`Nargiddley`	`its pretty much just a frame thats left click to target right click for menu ?`
`09:02.28`	`Iceroth`	`yea`
`09:02.41`	`Iceroth`	`but as it's target frame, left-clicking doesn't do much :)`
`09:02.50`	`Nargiddley`	`i've got a very simiar setup in MainAssist`
`09:02.54`	`Iceroth`	`don't have any click-casting addons with me now either`
`09:03.16`	`Nargiddley`	`for the tank frames`
`09:05.20`	`Nargiddley`	`doesnt take much to get that working as a secure frame`
`09:05.31`	`Iceroth`	`nope, all set now`
`09:05.35`	`Iceroth`	`thanks for the help :)`
`09:06.22`	`Nargiddley`	`np`
`09:08.45`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r18257 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Loatheb.lua: BigWigs (Loatheb): greatly reduce addonmessage spam, this is a temporary solution.`
`09:10.04`	`ckknight_`	`KaeltenAway, getting 500 errors on the website`
`09:12.37`	`Tekkub`	`ooooo just had a nice idea`
`09:13.07`	`ckknight_`	`oh?`
`09:13.09`	`Tekkub`	`use macrotext and /castsequence to "save" Cork's list into the button when you go into combat`
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`09:13.36`	`Tekkub`	`it'd be a dumb sequence and couldn't be changed, but it could help you continue to buff up if you enter combat`
`09:13.48`	`Iceroth`	`for the love of god, don't do that :p`
`09:13.53`	`ckknight_`	`Tekkub, but you won't be able to change targets that way`
`09:14.04`	`Iceroth`	`i can't count the number of wipes we've had because of ppl buffing after pull`
`09:14.08`	`ckknight_`	`you'll be stuck on one target`
`09:14.24`	`Tekkub`	`[target=party1] Mark of the Wild, [target=party2] Mark of the Wild`
`09:14.31`	`ckknight_`	`doesn't work that way, Tek`
`09:14.49`	`ckknight_`	`options are separated by ; not ,`
`09:14.54`	`Tekkub`	`gah this whole new macro system still confuses me`
`09:15.11`	`ckknight_`	`so you can do /cast [help] spell1, spell2; [harm] spell3, spell4`
`09:17.10`	`Tekkub`	`"The [target=unit] is a special option. Instead of evaluating to 'true' or 'false', it changes the target of the following spell AND the target of the other options. "Unit" can be any valid unit type, i.e. "player", "target", "targettarget", "party1", "party1target", etc etc. For more on unit types, go here: http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId "`
`09:17.16`	`Tekkub`	`ckk you suck :P`
`09:17.42`	`ckknight_`	`why do I suck?`
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`09:17.49`	`ckknight_`	`it still acts in the same place`
`09:17.56`	`Tekkub`	`nothing, go back to whatever you were doing`
`09:18.13`	`ckknight_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:19.37`	`Tekkub`	`good god wowwiki is down too`
`09:19.46`	`Tekkub`	`now what will I do`
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`09:24.18`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma * r18258 10FuBar_TrainerFu/icons/ (Misc.tga Skinning.tga): FuBar_TrainerFu: Added missing icons Skinning.tga and Misc.tga`
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`09:24.59`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r18259 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs (4HM): throttle old syncs as well to prevent excessive event firing`
`09:25.04`	`Mikma`	`http://www.nickenyfiken.com/TrainerFu/2006-11-28_032016.jpg :)`
`09:25.10`	`Tekkub`	`holy fuck me up th egoat ass`
`09:25.11`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.bearskin-rugs.com/grizzly-rugs-c-77.html`
`09:25.46`	`Tekkub`	`the black bear ones are 1/5 the price of the grizzly/polar ones... maybe due to the fact that grizz/polar are few in numbers? :P`
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`09:26.30`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r18260 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Horsemen.lua Loatheb.lua): BigWigs (Naxx): more old sync throttling`
`09:26.38`	`Tekkub`	`http://humanetrophies.net/display.php?cat=42&item_id=P284`
`09:26.43`	`Tekkub`	`I want the bottom one :)`
`09:27.49`	`Tekkub`	`http://humanetrophies.net/display.php?cat=47&item_id=P251`
`09:27.55`	`SP\|Sorren`	`so, they sell fake trophies?`
`09:28.07`	`SP\|Sorren`	`the dragon's kinda cute`
`09:32.09`	`[Ammo]`	`what is happening around this time daily that makes wowace.com give 500 internal errors`
`09:32.17`	`[Ammo]`	`iit's the same thing as 6 months ago on the old server`
`09:32.23`	`[Ammo]`	`same time, just dead`
`09:43.42`	`Srosh`	`evil magicks`
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`09:51.57`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55737?utm_source=onion_rss_daily`
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`09:53.42`	`Tekkub`	`"Ohio State Defeats Michigan 42-39 In Ultimately Meaningless Game"`
`09:53.46`	`Tekkub`	`my kind of headline`
`09:54.21`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r18261 10Fizzle/Core.lua:`
`09:54.21`	`CIA-17`	`Fizzle:`
`09:54.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed error on line 239.`
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`10:09.14`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r18262 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua:`
`10:09.14`	`CIA-17`	`ManaPerc:`
`10:09.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Try to fix 'arithmetic on nil value' error that happened in some weird cases.`
`10:10.38`	`phyber`	`probably screws up something else, like, complains about cat'ing a nil value now ;)`
`10:15.20`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Error: Delta source ended unexpectedly when i try to update from SVN hmm`
`10:15.23`	`Tekkub`	`I've died too many times from the damn Aldor Rise`
`10:15.30`	`Tekkub`	`I hate Shattrath City`
`10:15.38`	`Nargiddley`	`that elevator is a death trap :/`
`10:17.19`	`odt`	`does tbc have mousewheel chatscrolling by default?`
`10:17.27`	`Tekkub`	`no`
`10:17.35`	`odt`	`:(`
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`10:17.56`	`nevcairiel`	`is there a working chat addon which enabled timestamps and mousescrolling for TBC yet?`
`10:18.44`	`[Ammo]`	`prat tbc branch?`
`10:18.46`	`[Ammo]`	`not sure if that works`
`10:18.47`	`[Ammo]`	`but shrug`
`10:20.22`	`phyber`	`Tekkub: get the coordinates from around the elevator and make an addon that toggles walking when you get near it (if that function is still not protected).`
`10:20.58`	`nevcairiel`	`i bet it is protected`
`10:21.57`	`Tekkub`	`no see I jump off...`
`10:22.11`	`Tekkub`	`and hapf the time I don't have my paracloak equipped`
`10:22.29`	`nevcairiel`	`good that i chose scryer, you dont die when you jump down there`
`10:22.36`	`Tekkub`	`the other half I'm mounted and forget that I have MountMe's dismounter turned off ATM`
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`10:30.54`	`Iceroth`	`how soon do you have to make the choice of which faction you wish to get rep with?`
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`10:32.34`	`[Ammo]`	`bleh at wowace.com being unreachable during european mornings and start of afternoon`
`10:33.55`	`Nickenyfiken`	`mmm`
`10:39.59`	`Nickenyfiken`	`my last commit got fucked up i think`
`10:40.45`	`Iceroth`	`makes me wonder what's going on in blizzland... called the billing support finally, told what the problem is and said that i did send you an email regarding the issue 2 weeks ago, reply was "uh, well, yea, we've been having some issues with the email system"`
`10:41.50`	`Nickenyfiken`	`lol`
`10:42.27`	`Iceroth`	`and yet she was able to dig up that email because she put me on hold for a moment and then refered to some thing i had not said over the phone but did include in the mail`
`10:42.37`	`Iceroth`	`so why the F nobody reads those mails >.<`
`10:43.05`	`lassizci`	`I think /dev/null reads them very carefully`
`10:43.19`	`lassizci`	`he is a very pedantic guy`
`10:48.54`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r18264 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua Core.lua): Bartender3: small fixes`
`10:53.12`	`Silviu-`	`nevcairiel verry nice this BT3 i can replace in 2.0 3 addons :) rangerecolor, cooldowncount, fubar pluggin :)`
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`11:01.22`	`Maxemus`	`whats a good svn software?`
`11:02.41`	`ckknight`	`I like tortoisesvn`
`11:03.08`	`Maxemus`	`ty i'll go take a look`
`11:05.07`	`[Ammo]`	`tort is sucky`
`11:05.17`	`[Ammo]`	`when you extract without externals`
`11:05.22`	`[Ammo]`	`it doesnn't give you the option to update without`
`11:06.25`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r18265 10Cartographer/Modules/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer - Update locals koKR`
`11:06.57`	`Fritti`	`[Ammo]: it's possible but not intuitive`
`11:07.17`	`Fritti`	`you need to 'update to revision...' from the rightclick menu, then check the 'omit externals' button in the lowerleft`
`11:07.38`	`[Ammo]`	`fritti, well I have subversion commandline tools and an update.bat file`
`11:07.48`	`[Ammo]`	`I use commandline svn anyway already`
`11:07.55`	`[Ammo]`	`so subversion is useless for me :)`
`11:07.55`	`[Wobin]`	`That's... pretty unintuitive`
`11:08.02`	`[Ammo]`	`tortoise is useless I mean`
`11:08.21`	`Fritti`	`cmdline >> tortoise indeed`
`11:08.42`	`Fritti`	`besides tortoise tends to slow down explorer by orders of magnitude`
`11:08.45`	`Fritti`	`but it's easy`
`11:09.45`	`[Ammo]`	`I like how I can view the logs and diffs easily`
`11:09.50`	`[Ammo]`	`trac can do that as well`
`11:09.55`	`[Ammo]`	`but wowace.com is down half the time nowaday`
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`11:14.32`	`Nickenyfiken`	`whats the cause?`
`11:17.10`	`[Ammo]`	`no idea`
`11:17.17`	`[Ammo]`	`but it happens around 10am CET`
`11:17.52`	`Kirkburn`	`it's when the cats arrive: http://www.knitemare.org/cats/computercat.jpg`
`11:18.23`	`Kirkburn`	`The server just gives up and can't help but coo over the cutsie kittens`
`11:18.31`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
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`11:22.09`	`Fritti`	`this is the servers way of saying 'you must donate before I eat all the forum posts'`
`11:23.37`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just amazing that it happens at the same time it happened 6 months ago on the old server`
`11:23.40`	`phyber`	`http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1692/1162419243335yb2.gif`
`11:24.20`	`Fritti`	`wtf phyber, weird`
`11:26.01`	`Srosh`	`a kitten just died`
`11:26.38`	`Maxemus`	`is their a mobile frames type mod for tbc?`
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`11:46.57`	`abbat_w`	`btw guys. sometimes you write 'makes me a sad panda'. what is it?`
`11:49.06`	`axxo`	`http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sad+panda`
`11:49.42`	`axxo`	`google it`
`11:50.00`	`abbat_w`	`ahah, lol ;)`
`11:50.14`	`abbat_w`	`---`
`11:50.14`	`abbat_w`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:50.14`	`abbat_w`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:50.16`	`abbat_w`	`---`
`11:50.18`	`abbat_w`	`=))))`
`11:58.10`	`Fritti`	`hmm, must have missed something - cladhaire isn't using ace anymore?`
`11:58.29`	`[Wobin]`	`hasn't for a while`
`11:58.33`	`Fritti`	`didn't know that`
`11:58.37`	`Fritti`	`some fallout or the other?`
`11:59.04`	`[Wobin]`	`Not sure, perhaps some personality clash with ck =P`
`11:59.10`	`Fritti`	`sucks, I very much wanted perfectraid++`
`11:59.25`	`[Wobin]`	`Although, generally his code doesn't need ace to be good =P`
`11:59.40`	`[Wobin]`	`or that he doesn't need the help ace gives`
`11:59.48`	`Fritti`	`of course`
`12:00.25`	`Fritti`	`it's just that I prefer the whole profile etc ace thing`
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`12:00.47`	`[Wobin]`	`true dat`
`12:01.10`	`[Wobin]`	`hum`
`12:01.13`	`[Wobin]`	`patch today?`
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`12:03.51`	`sbu`	`heya`
`12:05.57`	`Fritti`	`so what was the latest praid version with ace libs?`
`12:07.08`	`Fritti`	`hrm 0.7.5-beta still has them`
`12:07.30`	`Fritti`	`weird`
`12:08.47`	`haste`	`hmm, I _think_ my WoW is broken :o`
`12:09.40`	`Fritti`	`and code seems ace2 too...`
`12:11.07`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`hmm stop using ace2`
`12:11.59`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`doesnt that mean he have to either use code to do some thing that is already in ace2 or rewrite it?`
`12:15.11`	`haste`	`http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/casual/charscreen.png << how it should look`
`12:15.22`	`haste`	`http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/casual/charscreen2.png << how it looks now :<`
`12:16.31`	`CIA-17`	`03nickenyfiken * r18266 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/MapNotes.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Small fixes in Notes module`
`12:18.16`	`sbu`	`haste: blame Mikma, he did it`
`12:19.03`	`haste`	`Mikma: DAMN YOU!`
`12:21.37`	`sbu`	`see - he's not responding, i guess ATM he's looking for new things to break/crash :p`
`12:23.30`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`haha nice`
`12:23.34`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`what did he do?`
`12:23.43`	`haste`	`nothing really`
`12:24.36`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`hehe`
`12:24.41`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`12:24.45`	`[Wobin]`	`is Grid in trunk 1.12?`
`12:24.48`	`[Wobin]`	`or tbc`
`12:24.51`	`[Ammo]`	`both :)`
`12:24.54`	`[Ammo]`	`afaik`
`12:25.11`	`[Ammo]`	`requires some toc tweakage though`
`12:27.02`	`[Wobin]`	`hey haste, what does oTravi do?`
`12:27.36`	`haste`	`[Wobin]: http://fuxsake.net/t5-oTravi.html << that`
`12:27.42`	`[Wobin]`	`ta`
`12:27.59`	`[Wobin]`	`<3`
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`12:38.22`	`[Wobin]`	`Man I <3 WAU`
`12:39.53`	`[Wobin]`	`hm, haste, I'm looking at oLightsUp... how is it activated?`
`12:40.08`	`[Wobin]`	`Cause a floating input on hotkey would be ... nifty`
`12:40.28`	`[Wobin]`	`like, ctrl-spacebar -> type in regexp -> bags pop open`
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`12:44.32`	`[Wobin]`	`!!`
`12:44.42`	`[Wobin]`	`http://www.cartoonlabs.com/comics/index.php?date=2006-11-28&show=sinfest`
`12:44.48`	`[Wobin]`	`Pooch!`
`12:44.54`	`haste`	`[Wobin]: I started on a static popup, but never finished it afaik :p`
`12:45.22`	`[Wobin]`	`I wish the input wasn't so laggy all the time`
`12:45.34`	`[Wobin]`	`half the time I type too fast for stuff to register`
`12:45.55`	`[Wobin]`	`or maybe something is trying to intercept =P`
`12:46.49`	`CIA-17`	`03moonsorrow * r18267 10GotWood/views/CircleView.lua:`
`12:46.49`	`CIA-17`	`GotWood:`
`12:46.50`	`CIA-17`	`- fix in switching view`
`12:47.02`	`[Wobin]`	`Anyway, night all =)`
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`12:48.52`	`Royal`	`Did US get 2.0.1 patch? Or is there any ETA on it?`
`12:58.03`	`phyber`	`it would be nice, but I doubt it.`
`12:58.50`	`abbat_w`	`would be nice? but why?`
`12:58.59`	`abbat_w`	`all ui's be crashed`
`12:59.02`	`abbat_w`	`no decursive`
`12:59.27`	`abbat_w`	`and damn, no discord mods for 2.0.1 ;)`
`13:00.07`	`phyber`	`because I wish to enjoy a higher version number.`
`13:00.25`	`Tekkub`	`yawn are people still bitching about that?`
`13:00.29`	`phyber`	`the post-it that I tacked to my screen with "2.0.1" written on it is starting to fall off.`
`13:01.33`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`who cares about decursive?`
`13:01.44`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`i hate those kinds of mods`
`13:03.40`	`Srosh`	`us maint just started, lets see :p`
`13:04.42`	`abbat_w`	`Pff...`
`13:05.29`	`abbat_w`	`So then you die because mage didn't cast decurse on you, maybe you change you mind ;)`
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`13:08.21`	`Srosh`	`they aren't doing that anyway, cause WoW2.0 = uber dam = zomg!`
`13:10.32`	`Maxemus`	`i got a bug with the oCB for TBC`
`13:10.35`	`Maxemus`	`Error: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'startTime' (a nil value)File: Interface\AddOns\oCB\casting.luaLine: 107Count: 7--------------------------------------------------`
`13:13.43`	`CIA-17`	`03tristan * r18268 10Cancellation/Core.lua:`
`13:13.44`	`CIA-17`	`Cancellation:`
`13:13.44`	`CIA-17`	`- Localized Buff Options`
`13:14.29`	`CIA-17`	`03tristan * r18269 10Cancellation/Localization.lua:`
`13:14.29`	`CIA-17`	`Cancellation:`
`13:14.30`	`CIA-17`	`- Localized Buff Settings (somehow a file didn't join)`
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`13:30.33`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: moo`
`13:31.18`	`Tekkub`	`Cat + potit + tape == hours of entertainment`
`13:31.22`	`Tekkub`	`*psotit`
`13:31.26`	`Tekkub`	`**postit`
`13:31.50`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: hi`
`13:32.09`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: i added the 2 missing icons in svn. but forgot to change the square icon to round one`
`13:32.12`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Tekkub: lol`
`13:32.26`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: and all the icons shared at http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/tga are round :)`
`13:32.28`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: ya i saw`
`13:32.40`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`but its missing fishing?`
`13:32.54`	`Mikma`	`nope, i made it yesterday`
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`13:33.12`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`well where is it then?`
`13:33.14`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`maybe im blind`
`13:33.14`	`Mikma`	`oh wait`
`13:33.17`	`Mikma`	`lawl :D`
`13:33.30`	`godsyn`	`why is the site down?`
`13:33.34`	`Mikma`	`i have it on my local comp :)`
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`13:34.16`	`godsyn`	`anyone?`
`13:34.37`	`Tekkub`	`because you broke it`
`13:34.38`	`Tekkub`	`asshole`
`13:34.43`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`lol`
`13:35.02`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: add them to the SVN if you want`
`13:35.12`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`or ill add em`
`13:35.16`	`JoshBorke`	`morning`
`13:35.20`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: ok i'll add it`
`13:35.56`	`godsyn`	`heh`
`13:37.05`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07TBC * r18271 10Prat/Prat/modules/UrlCopy.lua: Prat: UrlCopy - set to override SetItemRef`
`13:37.44`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: laggy CIA-17, but it's replaced now`
`13:38.27`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: gief me a new screenshot :D`
`13:38.42`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: make sure Pet-trainer and Demon-trainer are also in :)`
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`13:45.40`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r18272 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Added optdep/embed for Babble-2.2`
`13:46.56`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: cant update get proffidefijeifgje error`
`13:47.00`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`ill try later`
`13:47.11`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: well, moment.`
`13:48.52`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/jofa.zip :D`
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`14:05.48`	`sylvanaar`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3310#download this guy is doing a really great job with this tool`
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`14:09.39`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: Notes: Bad argument #3 to 'RegisterNotesDatabase' (table expected, got nil) ... :(`
`14:11.09`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`umh ok`
`14:11.17`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`argument #3 is self...`
`14:12.00`	`sylvanaar`	`you are bad`
`14:12.53`	`sylvanaar`	`this new MS mouse does not play well with click-casting o.O`
`14:13.04`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O`
`14:13.58`	`abbat_w`	`heh`
`14:14.09`	`abbat_w`	`sylvanaar, it's for svn update?`
`14:16.15`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: you get that error all the time on all chars?`
`14:18.45`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: hmm the mining icon still looks square for mee`
`14:21.24`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: redownload it then, and the error happens with char without SV`
`14:21.52`	`sylvanaar`	`no`
`14:22.07`	`sylvanaar`	`but, im going to send him an email`
`14:22.15`	`sylvanaar`	`with the link to WAU`
`14:22.32`	`sylvanaar`	`wow - there is a WoW emulator - i did not know that https://sourceforge.net/projects/wowbench/`
`14:24.00`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: download from where?`
`14:24.11`	`haste`	`sylvanaar: pretty old :)`
`14:24.25`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: hmm`
`14:24.29`	`haste`	`it's mikk's doing :D`
`14:25.15`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: http://wow.reaktio.net/tfu2/tga/Mining2.tga`
`14:25.32`	`sylvanaar`	`haste: cool - looks neat, do you have a link to WAU i cant get to the website`
`14:26.12`	`haste`	`sylvanaar: it's on SF somewhere, under WoWAceUpdater I think`
`14:27.07`	`haste`	`but now I'm actually going to reboot!`
`14:27.18`	`sylvanaar`	`haste: ywah, i have been looking there i cant find it`
`14:27.25`	`haste`	`new kernel, new nvidia drivers, cleaned up system and new wm !`
`14:27.29`	`haste`	`something is bound to break :3`
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`14:27.40`	`sylvanaar`	`yep`
`14:27.43`	`haste`	`poff`
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`14:27.55`	`sylvanaar`	`but you secretly want it to`
`14:29.00`	`sylvanaar`	`I just installed the new MS font for programmers - it is really nice on LCD displays so easy to read`
`14:29.22`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: http://www.nickenyfiken.com/TrainerFu/2006-11-28_152753.jpg :-)`
`14:29.46`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: hawt :D`
`14:29.57`	`JoshBorke`	`wow that's hawt`
`14:31.09`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: now, fix the error ;)`
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`14:35.23`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: is it line #178?`
`14:35.57`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: dunno, i said all it had :I`
`14:36.42`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: btw, vanilla wow`
`14:38.58`	`JoshBorke`	`at least get a traceback mod when debugging :-P`
`14:40.35`	`Mikma`	`who me?`
`14:40.48`	`Mikma`	`i don't have to :D Nickenyfiken_ can just delete his SV's and see the erroe himself`
`14:41.19`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Mikma: hmm i can't reproduce the error`
`14:41.25`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`you mean delete all SV's?`
`14:41.31`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`14:41.42`	`Mikma`	`that's what i did`
`14:41.42`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`for character or account?`
`14:41.45`	`Mikma`	`both`
`14:42.06`	`Mikma`	`find . \| grep FuBar_TrainerFu.lua .. and delete them after you have found em`
`14:43.50`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`sylvanaar, Consolas, no?`
`14:43.58`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: Notes: Bad argument #3 to 'RegisterNotesDatabase' (table expected, got nil) .. that's all i get`
`14:44.01`	`sylvanaar`	`Kirkburn\|afk: yeah`
`14:44.06`	`Neebler`	`Nickenyfiken: the priest trainer is right next to the mage one in that screenshot`
`14:44.32`	`Neebler`	`rather, it's missing the icon for the priest trainer`
`14:44.46`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`I like it too :) Had IRC in it for a while before I realised that I don't read the code snippets anyway :P`
`14:45.15`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: modules/MapNotes.lua: Cartographer_Notes:RegisterNotesDatabase('TrainerFu', self.db.account.TrainerNotes, self)`
`14:45.21`	`sylvanaar`	`Kirkburn\|afk: it actually replaced my system font as well - but it doesnt look good for IRC for some reason`
`14:45.44`	`Kirkburn`	`Strange`
`14:46.15`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`Neebler: yes because i havent visited it with a priest yet`
`14:46.15`	`sylvanaar`	`lucida console is still more readable in mIRC - /shrug`
`14:46.24`	`mjc`	`rawr`
`14:46.32`	`Kirkburn`	`My IRC is currently in one of the other new MS fonts (kinda obviously the same one as ClearFont, prediictaabblleeee)`
`14:46.43`	`Kirkburn`	`Lucida is a nice font, yeah`
`14:46.53`	`abbat_w`	`pfff...`
`14:46.59`	`abbat_w`	`i use Fixedsys`
`14:47.05`	`abbat_w`	`best font for mirc`
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`14:47.52`	`Kirkburn`	`blech`
`14:48.07`	`Kirkburn`	`I prefer to feel I'm in the year 2006 ;)`
`14:49.16`	`Amadeo`	`PS3 game was already pirated? that's nuts`
`14:49.36`	`oxman`	`Wii is the best nextgen console`
`14:49.58`	`Amadeo`	`They all suck unless most of their games play online`
`14:50.54`	`oxman`	`Buy a 360 :)`
`14:51.00`	`beerke`	`wowace.com down ?`
`14:51.05`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: wild guess is that you are doing the DB-things in wrong order`
`14:51.10`	`oxman`	`I've one, and the 360 will be the gest console for online game`
`14:51.15`	`oxman`	`gest/best`
`14:51.42`	`Amadeo`	`I like the Wii the best, I just don't see Nintendo doing much for online play`
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`14:51.57`	`mjc`	`beerke: yes`
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`14:54.09`	`Amadeo`	`no patch, damn :(`
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`14:56.40`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: i'm having a strong feeling that you aren't creating te`
`14:56.57`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: te=the database for mapnotes before you try to set it`
`14:57.38`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`yup ive commited a change now`
`14:57.47`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`hope it fix it but i havent tested it :-P`
`14:58.05`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`the SVN isnt working very well`
`14:59.12`	`Mikma`	`yeah i noticed`
`15:03.04`	`phyber`	`~seen Kodewulf`
`15:03.18`	`purl`	`kodewulf <n=Kodewulf@220-253-26-83.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 3h 46m 42s ago, saying: 'phyber: that i did fix... :)'.`
`15:04.10`	`Mikma`	`Nickenyfiken_: works now`
`15:04.18`	`Nickenyfiken_`	`whohoo! :-)`
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`15:14.32`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i have to fix alot of things in TrainerFu`
`15:16.10`	`Mikma`	`better get started :D`
`15:16.17`	`Mikma`	`i think i'm going to have a nap soon`
`15:16.23`	`Mikma`	`slept like 4h last night`
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`15:20.42`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i just wanna die`
`15:20.50`	`Nickenyfiken`	`someone please shoot me :-P`
`15:21.21`	`JoshBorke`	`neva!`
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`15:29.58`	`odt`	`so, was it patchday in the us?`
`15:30.17`	`JoshBorke`	`no`
`15:32.45`	`DrDre`	`no PTR received the patch today`
`15:32.58`	`DrDre`	`so its a chance at nextweek or possibly not next week at all`
`15:34.31`	`Mikma`	`http://bash.org/?488793`
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`15:44.01`	`Xuerian`	`rofl`
`15:44.25`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r18275 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua:`
`15:44.25`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: to reduce addon_message spam the sending of sync's is throttled similar to the receiving end.`
`15:44.25`	`CIA-17`	`this should have no negative effect at all. but let me know if there's problems :)`
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`15:59.02`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r18276 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc: FuBar_DurabilityFu - Missing optdep`
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`16:03.18`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r18277 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc: FuBar_PerformanceFu: missing optdeps`
`16:05.16`	`sylvanaar`	`[Ammo]: ping`
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`16:15.19`	Funkeh`	`loes`
`16:15.36`	`Mikma`	`'sup`
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`16:16.18`	Funkeh`	`4hm down ;p`
`16:16.54`	`Elkano`	`gz`
`16:17.02`	`Hjalte`	`grats`
`16:17.06`	`phyber`	`But... the first kill is meant to go to her. she had money down on it and everything.`
`16:17.15`	Funkeh`	`=p`
`16:17.21`	Funkeh`	`she died 3rd`
`16:18.10`	`Saroz`	`grats`
`16:18.11`	Funkeh`	`and we got cloth loot, havent seen cloth loot in about 3 weeks, all chain ;_;`
`16:18.53`	`phyber`	`we're still nubs and haven't got Anub down yet.`
`16:19.06`	Funkeh`	`omg nubs!`
`16:19.09`	Funkeh`	`;p`
`16:19.19`	`phyber`	`Raz gets owned weekly though.`
`16:19.26`	`phyber`	`can get boots at least ;)`
`16:19.30`	Funkeh`	`raz is a whore!`
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`16:21.02`	Funkeh`	`its funny everyone is frantically getting their FrR mats together for today =p`
`16:21.26`	Funkeh`	`basically the only conversation going on in gchat is frost res`
`16:21.38`	`Silviu-`	`[Ammo] Interface\Addons\BigWigs\Pluggins\Comm.lua:58 unexpected symbol near ')'`
`16:22.45`	`Elkano`	`Nickenyfiken, wouldn'T it make more sens to store TFu's notes by faction? or doesn't support ace such a profile?`
`16:23.11`	`Saroz`	`fixed Silviu-`
`16:23.20`	Funkeh`	`Silviu-: remove the ')' at the end :)`
`16:23.37`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r18278 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Fix syntax error`
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`16:24.01`	Funkeh`	`or just update :)`
`16:25.18`	`Silviu-`	`oky :)`
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`16:36.00`	`pRo-Beldur`	`WoWAce is down? :(`
`16:41.12`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r18279 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Loatheb.lua: BigWigs (loatheb): oops.. throttle the correct old sync`
`16:41.35`	`Maxemus`	`bc`
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`16:47.48`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Elkano: good question... the one about storing notes according to faction`
`16:48.21`	`Elkano`	`I don't know if ace's faction profile is account or only server wide`
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`16:56.04`	`Kaelten`	`hi guys`
`16:56.06`	`Kaelten`	`rebooting server`
`16:56.15`	`Kaelten`	`or at least lightty`
`16:57.22`	`Kaelten`	`ok server is up a again`
`17:00.49`	`TheKarn`	`is there anything built into ora2 that shows a window with a list of people that are within 10yds?`
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`17:12.46`	`Azurewrath`	`TheKarn: you could use/modify BigWigs_CThunAssist for that.. but i guess it checks for 5 yards.. ;)`
`17:13.24`	`TheKarn`	`i might have a look into that when i've finished with my first addon ;)`
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`17:17.24`	`Maxemus`	`is there a tbc bigwigs about yet can't seem to see it on the wiki`
`17:17.55`	`Azurewrath`	`the normal BigWigs should work, just modify the toc to 20000`
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`17:18.01`	`Maxemus`	`okies cheers`
`17:20.19`	`Maxemus`	`hehe tried that and bigwigs gave 75 errors on load using the r18279 version`
`17:22.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`sounds like each module errored`
`17:22.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`because the core didnt properly load`
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`17:26.12`	`Tazmanyak`	`hiya all`
`17:26.16`	`Maxemus`	`looks that way from the error log`
`17:29.21`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Elkano: looks like it stores the date for both factions`
`17:29.58`	`Elkano`	`well, atm it stores into account, so points in SW should show for horde chars, too`
`17:30.59`	`Elkano`	`ok, there is no 'faction' data type atm :/`
`17:31.11`	`Elkano`	`maybe we should sugest it`
`17:33.50`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yeah maybe, or ill do it manually`
`17:34.08`	`Nickenyfiken`	`yup i tried with my little dwarf it could see all notes in Orgrimmar`
`17:34.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm wowwiki down... anywhere i can read wow api docs?`
`17:34.47`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r18280 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: Bossblock: TBC fix?`
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`17:37.29`	`Maxemus`	`hmm it would seem there is a lib missing when u download the newest bigwigs, Error: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Zone-2.2.AddOn: BigWigsFile: LoadOnDemand.luaLine: 7Count: 1`
`17:37.59`	Funkeh`	`Maxemus: it happens from time to time`
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`17:38.44`	`Elkano`	`Nickenyfiken, added it to AceDB's discussion page`
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`17:43.53`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all`
`17:48.49`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r18281 10Surfaces/Surfaces.lua: Surfaces: simplified code. functionally equivalent, but does not use ressources after load.`
`17:48.50`	Funkeh`	`hey cnc`
`17:49.52`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Elkano: oki :-)`
`17:51.23`	`Hjalte`	`If you want to win a bc beta key they are giving one away every 18 minutes in worldofwars irc chat right now..`
`17:52.00`	`alcaras`	`freenode network?`
`17:52.06`	`Elkano`	`thanks god I'm a coder... :P`
`17:52.40`	`Hjalte`	`irc://irc.incgamers.com/ #wow`
`17:53.00`	`Hjalte`	`Remember to register for the competition once you are in there ;)`
`17:53.09`	`Hjalte`	`And be prepared to be spammed..`
`17:53.29`	`Elkano`	`still waiting for your referer-id ;)`
`17:57.30`	`cncfanatics`	`~seen coghweel`
`17:57.52`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'coghweel', cncfanatics`
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`18:02.14`	`Nattifroh`	`i've been trying to istall Prat, but when i do and login i get this error msg: (Interface\AddOns\Prat\Prat.lua: 14: attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)) anyone know what's up ?`
`18:02.42`	`Hjalte`	`Nattifroh: Latest revision of Prat is missing libs from wowace.com/files`
`18:02.43`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r18282 10/branches/DKPmon/ (29 files in 11 dirs): DKPmon: Initial import of WoW 2.0 branch`
`18:03.17`	`Hjalte`	`Nattifroh: Just go and download a version that has the libraries, look at the zip size and then extract the libs folder to the prat folder`
`18:03.34`	`Nattifroh`	`will try ty mate`
`18:05.23`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin 07TBC * r18283 10DKPmon/Libs/: DKPmon: Adding externals`
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`18:11.00`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`18:11.04`	Funkeh`	`hey ck`
`18:11.47`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r18284 10Bidder/Libs/: Bidder: Externals fix, I hope.`
`18:14.05`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r18285 10/branches/Bidder/ (18 files in 6 dirs): Bidder: Initial import of WoW 2.0 branch.`
`18:14.32`	`ckknight`	`is wowwiji back up?`
`18:14.39`	`ckknight`	`wiki*`
`18:14.45`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin 07TBC * r18286 10Bidder/Libs/: Bidder: Include externals.`
`18:16.41`	`Kirkburn`	`Yes it is?`
`18:17.14`	`Kirkburn`	`Step One: Open "The Internet" :)`
`18:23.01`	`DrDre`	`wish me luck on a beta key :(`
`18:23.17`	`DrDre`	`3071 have entered, of which 1942 are connected. Next key draw is in 3 minutes and 3 seconds. So far 68 of 400 keys have been won.`
`18:23.29`	`DrDre`	`1 in 1942 ftw!`
`18:23.33`	`Hjalte`	`I hope you dont win MY beta key :P`
`18:23.37`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`18:24.03`	`DrDre`	`lets both get one :P`
`18:24.08`	`Hjalte`	`Deal`
`18:24.40`	`DrDre`	`i laugh at ppl who use browser to join`
`18:24.40`	`Mikma`	`yawn`
`18:24.47`	`DrDre`	`gonna be funny when they forget and close browser`
`18:25.18`	`Hjalte`	`Hehe. That'd be nice :)`
`18:25.55`	`DrDre`	`ok lets kill gewpy!`
`18:26.02`	`Jens`	`[19:25] * Connecting to irc.incgamers.com (6667)`
`18:26.08`	`Jens`	`[19:25] ERROR All connections in use`
`18:26.11`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`18:26.12`	`Jens`	`:(`
`18:26.28`	`DrDre`	`i connected like 10AM EST and i was 2500th one to register ;x`
`18:26.40`	`DrDre`	`theres nearly 2000 people in the channel`
`18:26.50`	`Hjalte`	`Don't worry, we'll win the next one..`
`18:27.06`	`DrDre`	`we need a way to kick every non oper`
`18:27.10`	`DrDre`	`>_>`
`18:27.29`	`Hjalte`	`They should kick all the afk'ers..`
`18:27.41`	`DrDre`	`yeah would be better`
`18:27.59`	`Jens`	`It's like IdleRPG, only with prizes :)`
`18:27.59`	`DrDre`	`since ill be on my pc for next 14 hours!`
`18:28.53`	`Jens`	`Arse!`
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`18:29.11`	`Hjalte`	`I'll go to bed at some point.. But i'll leave my pc 'working' on a beta key for me ;)`
`18:29.31`	`DrDre`	`lol i never shutdown :P`
`18:29.51`	`DrDre`	`i shoulda connected with BNC ><`
`18:29.52`	`Jens`	`I hope they don't kline for hammering or something.`
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`18:30.03`	`DrDre`	`can you leave and rejoin channel :X ?`
`18:30.29`	`DrDre`	`with bnc ill always be in the channel even if i close irc lol`
`18:31.22`	`Hjalte`	`You can rejoin`
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`18:34.26`	`pastamancer`	`Hjalte: did increasing the text length fix your problem with Grid?`
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`18:34.53`	`Hjalte`	`Pastamancer: Well, let me find some spot where i can drown myself and try`
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`18:39.18`	`ckknight`	`spam coming, but I think it's important to anyone who deals with embedded nils:`
`18:39.21`	`ckknight`	`> t = {1,2,3}`
`18:39.21`	`ckknight`	`> t[5] = 5`
`18:39.21`	`ckknight`	`> =unpack(t)`
`18:39.21`	`ckknight`	`1 2 3`
`18:39.21`	`ckknight`	`> =unpack(t, 1, 5)`
`18:39.22`	`ckknight`	`1 2 3 nil 5`
`18:40.13`	`pastamancer`	`good to know`
`18:40.24`	`ckknight`	`quite good to know`
`18:40.44`	`ckknight`	`I wrote my own my_unpack, not realizing you can specify indicies`
`18:41.00`	`Hjalte`	`Pastamancer: Setting lenght to 8 fixed the problem at eg 135% but not when i scaled it higher`
`18:41.21`	`pastamancer`	`I'm guessing unpack with one arg uses ipairs, and with three, it uses a for loop`
`18:42.14`	`ckknight`	`well, unpack(t) => unpack(t, 1, #t)`
`18:42.24`	`ckknight`	`but sometimes #t isn't what you want it to be.`
`18:42.38`	`JoshBorke`	`hola`
`18:42.50`	`pastamancer`	`Hjalte: I'll try and get it fixed when I redo the frame scaling code.`
`18:43.03`	`Hjalte`	`Pastamancer: Thanks a lot :)`
`18:43.33`	`pastamancer`	`ckknight: ah, that makes sense. I'm not used to thinking of lua functions having default values since you don't specify them on the same line as the function definition`
`18:44.05`	`DrDre`	`booo another key goes to the wrong person!`
`18:45.01`	`Hjalte`	`I'm looking at a kharazan preview right now.. Oh.. I soooo want a bc beta key :(`
`18:45.09`	`JoshBorke`	`Hjalte: lol`
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`18:47.18`	`Maxemus`	`where should optional bigwig mods be dropped, is it in the Addons, Bigwigs or Plugins, since i have tried the lot and not seemed to get anywhere`
`18:49.21`	`pastamancer`	`additional bigwigs modules should go in Interface/Addons if there's a .toc file in the zip.`
`18:49.47`	`Maxemus`	`cheers`
`18:50.20`	`pastamancer`	`or more generally: anything with a .toc file goes in Addons`
`18:51.11`	`Elkano`	`ckknight, I posted a suggestion about adding a new faction data type to AceDB's wiki talk`
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`18:52.44`	`Nickenyfiken`	`Elkano: i was thinking and... isnt all trainers in contested areas for both factions?`
`18:52.48`	`ckknight`	`Elkano, already exists.`
`18:52.48`	`TheShado`	`sorry can someone here help me with SVN, I am trying to update mods but I get error PROPFIND request failed on 18286`
`18:52.50`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`18:52.53`	`ckknight`	`realm type`
`18:53.03`	`ckknight`	`sorta`
`18:53.09`	`Elkano`	`ck, account wide, but splitamong factions`
`18:53.10`	`ckknight`	`realm is server + faction`
`18:53.13`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`18:53.20`	`ckknight`	`what for?`
`18:53.21`	`ckknight`	`jw.`
`18:53.40`	`Elkano`	`hmm.. quests, trainers, ...`
`18:53.46`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i thout realm was like account but just for one realm...`
`18:54.03`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ie all characters on one realm`
`18:54.19`	`ckknight`	`it's actually all Horde chars on a realm or all Alliance chars on a realm`
`18:54.28`	`ckknight`	`as it sees the Ally and Horde side as two separate sides`
`18:54.33`	`ckknight`	`which is typically how you want it`
`18:54.51`	`ckknight`	`because for realm, you're likely dealing with either talking to each other or dealing with money`
`18:54.58`	`ckknight`	`and you can't do either with the opposing faction`
`18:55.01`	`TheShado`	`sorry anyone here know something about SVN and using it to keep wow mods updated`
`18:55.03`	`Nickenyfiken`	`but i might save all notes as alliance, horde or both`
`18:55.20`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: svn update?`
`18:55.32`	`TheShado`	`I get error PROPFIND request failed on 18286`
`18:55.39`	`Nickenyfiken`	`TheShado: use WAU`
`18:55.43`	`Silviu-`	`TheShado try svn2.wowace.com`
`18:55.46`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: means the servers are out of sync`
`18:56.42`	`TheShado`	`AceTimer mod can't be deleted or cleaned does this have something to do with svn locking files`
`18:56.46`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r18287 10Ace2/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - now uses the standard unpack instead of my crappy unpack implementation`
`18:56.51`	`JoshBorke`	`actually, that appears to have something to do with directories`
`19:00.24`	`TheShado`	`with svn2.wowace.com I get error No such revision 18287`
`19:01.08`	`JoshBorke`	`odd, because it is updated`
`19:01.56`	`Nickenyfiken`	`SVN is the most oddest thing in the world`
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`19:02.34`	`TheShado`	`for somereason svn says acetimer is locked and cleanup says problem, and I can't do anything in explorer`
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`19:06.48`	`ckknight`	`Elkano, here it comes.`
`19:07.22`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r18288 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - added "faction" type.`
`19:09.41`	`DrDre`	`lol they muted contest channel`
`19:09.47`	`DrDre`	`its soooo quiet in there now`
`19:09.55`	`ckknight`	`contest channel?`
`19:10.02`	`DrDre`	`Worldofwar's irc contest`
`19:10.06`	`DrDre`	`giving out 400 beta keys`
`19:10.07`	`Amadeo`	`that's such a scam`
`19:10.09`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`19:10.26`	`Amadeo`	`they make you hang out in their IRC channel for days, saying they'll give the key out soon`
`19:10.29`	`Amadeo`	`but they never do when they say`
`19:10.34`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Did you add Faction to the DB "copy from" command?`
`19:10.53`	`DrDre`	`Amadeo: its blizzard whos slow on giving keys`
`19:10.57`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, that's part of profile, not faction.`
`19:11.17`	`Amadeo`	`DrDre: I'm talking about WorldOfWar's contests, not Blizzard`
`19:11.32`	`DrDre`	`how do you know they arnt sending names to blizzard?`
`19:11.55`	`DrDre`	`the contest just started a few hrs ago >_>`
`19:11.55`	`Amadeo`	`I'm not saying they aren't`
`19:12.01`	`Amadeo`	`But they have had a number of contests now`
`19:12.05`	`DrDre`	`then why call it a scam when you dont know if it is`
`19:12.19`	`Amadeo`	`Well they will give out keys, the whole contest thing is just lame`
`19:12.26`	`DrDre`	`i like it`
`19:12.33`	`DrDre`	`its something easy to do and fair :P`
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`19:12.41`	`DrDre`	`stuff like art contest, not everyones an artist`
`19:12.49`	`DrDre`	`this gives everyone a fair chance`
`19:12.50`	`Elkano`	`thx :)`
`19:13.08`	`Amadeo`	`DrDre: Part of me thinks that they're more selective than that in giving out names`
`19:13.26`	`JoshBorke`	`as a mod developer, i'm not all that interested in being in the beta (don't get me wrong, i'm glad I got a key). i'm just as happy with having PTR access. that said, I think there is some use for other developers to get information from outlands and advanced stuff`
`19:13.37`	`Amadeo`	`since they give keys to people who are idle and such, which is strange to me`
`19:14.08`	`DrDre`	`its 4 days long, you expect ppl to be at pc for 4 days? lol`
`19:14.24`	`JoshBorke`	`oh come now, i'm sure you've had a 4 day long raid session :-P`
`19:14.33`	`DrDre`	`uh`
`19:14.41`	`nevcairiel`	`JoshBorke: one thing beta does have that PTR sucks at. its stable and doesnt have queues to hell.`
`19:14.42`	`DrDre`	`4 days straight? wtf you doing MC at lvl 51 ?`
`19:15.08`	`JoshBorke`	`nevcairiel: true :-) but i wouldn't know about PTR because i'm in the beta :-P`
`19:15.37`	`nevcairiel`	`its always been like that on PTR`
`19:15.38`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`19:16.17`	`JoshBorke`	`=P`
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`19:16.41`	`Antiarc`	`And yes, I'm thankful for beta because would not want to have to test on the PTR.`
`19:17.02`	`Jens`	`Muhahaha.`
`19:17.04`	`Jens`	`[20:16] -bc- Thank you for entering. You were number 3145 to enter the draw. Good luck!`
`19:17.27`	`JoshBorke`	`Antiarc: are you going to update HealCap for wow 2.0?`
`19:17.49`	`DrDre`	`err`
`19:17.54`	`DrDre`	`people said PTR got a patch today`
`19:17.58`	`JoshBorke`	`yes`
`19:17.59`	`DrDre`	`i didnt get a patch on ptr`
`19:18.02`	`JoshBorke`	`so i heard`
`19:18.17`	`JoshBorke`	`maybe you already background downloaded it?`
`19:18.18`	`nevcairiel`	`BC didnt get patched either`
`19:18.20`	`DrDre`	`im sitting at the select server screen ;x`
`19:18.23`	`DrDre`	`i dont run background dler`
`19:18.42`	`JoshBorke`	`they lied to you`
`19:18.48`	`DrDre`	`i dl'd some patch a few days ago lol`
`19:18.55`	`DrDre`	`when i logged into ptr`
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`19:20.40`	`DrDre`	`ima go afk since it seems all the afkers are winning the keys`
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`19:25.30`	`Antiarc`	`JoshBorke: Yeah, eventually.`
`19:25.34`	`Antiarc`	`It should mostly work, actually.`
`19:25.42`	`KarlThePagan`	`has anyone got agUF's party pet frames showing in PTR or TBC beta?`
`19:25.53`	`Antiarc`	`But I'm gonna just converit to Ace at some point, because no sense in reimplementing everything.`
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`19:39.28`	`phyber`	`[2006/11/28 19:38:45-940-x1]: Fizzle\Core.lua:238: Tablet-2.0: You must add categories in within a registration.`
`19:39.33`	`phyber`	`what am I doing wrong to see that?`
`19:39.37`	`Tem`	`Tuller, poke`
`19:39.46`	`Tuller`	`hrm?`
`19:39.55`	`Tem`	`good work on vbagnon`
`19:40.01`	`Tuller`	`thanks :)`
`19:40.05`	`Tem`	`I have to agree with kergoth though`
`19:40.08`	`Tem`	`the interface is confusing`
`19:40.31`	`phyber`	`n/m. got it.`
`19:40.46`	`Tem`	`but I'm not really concerned about it`
`19:42.05`	`Iceroth`	`random noob question 134 of the day: what's this new focus thing?`
`19:42.17`	`pastamancer`	`KarlThePagan: aguf and pets don't get along in TBC/PTR`
`19:42.18`	`Tem`	`it's a new unitid`
`19:42.30`	`Tem`	`that can be assigned to anything`
`19:43.13`	`Tem`	`mmkay, I think I'm gonna enter noob mode now`
`19:43.20`	`Tem`	`I require 3 addons`
`19:43.24`	`Iceroth`	`so what would you need it for?`
`19:43.37`	`weab`	`if you want to sheep the same target`
`19:43.38`	`Tem`	`Iceroth, I sheep something and focus it`
`19:43.42`	`weab`	`but be able to change targets`
`19:43.48`	`Tem`	`then I move o`
`19:43.49`	`Tem`	`n`
`19:43.50`	`Kirkburn`	`What's OneView exactly?`
`19:44.05`	`Tem`	`AIOI type thing`
`19:44.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Different to OneBag somehow?`
`19:44.21`	`Tem`	`it's a module of OneBag, iirc`
`19:44.34`	`Tem`	`shows your bag and bank contents as One View, I think`
`19:44.47`	`Kirkburn`	`Intruiging, thanks`
`19:44.51`	`Tuller`	`I think it also allows viewing of your other character's data`
`19:45.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Trying to decide between it and vBagnon, Tuller :P`
`19:45.37`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm having trouble with equip compare mods and vBagnon :(`
`19:46.08`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin 07TBC * r18289 10DKPmon/Comm/comm.lua: DKPmon: gfind -> gmatch`
`19:46.09`	`Tem`	`shrug I don't like the way either of them look, but vbagnon offers other functionality that I want so I can live with the appearance`
`19:46.19`	`Tuller`	`what should it look like? :)`
`19:46.21`	`Neebler`	`Does anyone recall the name of that other addon that shows cooldown #'s over icons similar to CooldownCount?`
`19:46.25`	`Tem`	`like a normal bag`
`19:46.34`	`Kirkburn`	`EQCompare is a total failure for me, and with EquipCompare I get no errors but the comparison tooltip rarely appears`
`19:46.38`	`Tem`	`I dlislike the use of the tooltip border for anything other than a tooltip`
`19:46.52`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin 07TBC * r18290 10Bidder/Comm/comm.lua: Bidder: gfind -> gmatch`
`19:46.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Bah, I like it =)`
`19:47.01`	`Tem`	`Neebler, OmniCC probably`
`19:47.14`	`Tem`	`btw Tuller, you totally stole my idea with OmniCC`
`19:47.16`	`Neebler`	`yes that's it. thank you`
`19:47.46`	`Tem`	`I was calling it Philibuster`
`19:47.59`	`Tuller`	`hah`
`19:48.31`	`Tem`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:48.35`	`Tem`	`I need 3 addons`
`19:48.52`	`Tem`	`1 to give me some sort of menu to drop totems`
`19:49.04`	`Tem`	`because I've got too damn many of them already at level 30`
`19:49.34`	`phyber`	`sigh.`
`19:49.39`	`*** part/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@29.72-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)`
`19:49.46`	`phyber`	`anyone got or know of a decent example of using Tablet outside of FuBar?`
`19:49.59`	`phyber`	`the docs kind of suck at telling me why this doesn't work.`
`19:50.01`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin 07TBC * r18291 10DKPmonInit/ (7 files in 2 dirs): DKPmonInit: Initial import for WoW 2.0`
`19:50.55`	`Tem`	`Is there a barmod that can do the 'circled' appearance in TBC yet?`
`19:51.04`	`Kemayo`	`phyber: QuestsFu uses a Tablet for its non-FuBar quest tracker.`
`19:51.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Hmm, any other 'SellValue' type mods out there?`
`19:51.09`	`KarlThePagan`	`pastamancer - thx.. there are too many whiney hunters that yell at the priest when their pets doesn't cower when it's dying`
`19:51.18`	`Kirkburn`	`cyCircled?`
`19:51.29`	`nevcairiel`	`i dunno if cyCircled supports BT3 yet`
`19:51.42`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma could write a plugin tho.`
`19:51.47`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: vBagnon makes no sense on initial load. I click 'b' and have all these icons on the left side, but when clicking them, nothing happens. And the tooltips speak of "drag to another tab", but there are no tabs, and it's not apparent where they should be or how to create one, or even what they do.`
`19:51.49`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin 07TBC * r18292 10DKPmonInit/Libs/: DKPmonInit: Set up externals.`
`19:52.08`	`pastamancer`	`KarlThePagan: there are hunters that expect their pet to get heals?!`
`19:52.11`	`KarlThePagan`	`sooo for Grid I'm gonna cry for partyNpet groups`
`19:52.33`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: Are the icons on the side "tabs"?`
`19:52.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`seems like 8/10 hunters have a 3000 armor dps pet and cry for heals in every fight`
`19:52.35`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: the icons are tabs, and I should be negating a category instead of removing it from the total rule.`
`19:52.36`	`Kirkburn`	`nevcairiel, it appears Mikma tried`
`19:52.52`	`phyber`	`Kemayo: http://ace.pastey.net/2814`
`19:52.56`	`phyber`	`that's what I have so far.`
`19:52.56`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: "should be", "instead of" - instead of nothing - nothing happens.`
`19:53.05`	`phyber`	`I want it to create a tablet at the top right of the characterframe.`
`19:53.17`	`Kirkburn`	`The TBC branch of cyCircled has a test by Mikma for a BT3 plugin`
`19:53.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`maybe that'll be my next plugin ;)`
`19:53.24`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: And I don't think you should refer to the icons as tabs. Tabs are typically at the top/bottom of windows, and they usually contain text.`
`19:53.33`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: Like the Character window or tabs in Firefox.`
`19:53.37`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: THAT is tabs.`
`19:53.40`	`vhaarr`	`This is just icons.`
`19:54.09`	`vhaarr`	`Oh, wait, something happens when I click the "Items" icon.`
`19:54.19`	`vhaarr`	`But none of the others.`
`19:54.24`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin 07TBC * r18293 10DKPmonInit/main.lua: DKPmonInit: gfind -> gmatch`
`19:54.45`	`vhaarr`	`Hovering them makes the proper items highlight, however.`
`19:54.59`	`vhaarr`	`Like "Trinkets" highlights all my trinkets, but clicking it does nothing.`
`19:55.12`	`TheShado`	`sorry how you release svn lock on some folder`
`19:55.31`	`Kemayo`	`phyber: What's it doing now?`
`19:56.04`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: right now, your window is set by a rule, say Items or Empty slots or Weapons or Armor or Trinkets`
`19:56.23`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: clicking on the trinkets tab changes the rule to Items or Empty slots or Weapons or Armor`
`19:56.41`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: I understand how it works, I'm telling you the interface is flawed.`
`19:57.09`	`phyber`	`Kemayo: it doesn't error, but I don't see a tablet either.`
`19:57.09`	`Mikma`	`what? what about me?`
`19:57.12`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: And that clicking Trinkets does nothing.`
`19:57.22`	`vhaarr`	`Even though I have trinkets in my bags.`
`19:57.34`	`phyber`	`brb.`
`19:57.44`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: I know, and I'm going to change it :)`
`19:57.53`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: What, the interface`
`19:57.55`	`vhaarr`	`?`
`19:57.59`	`Tuller`	`yes`
`19:58.03`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`19:58.05`	`Kemayo`	`Ah, I see. You've registered the tablet but not opened it. Call tablet:Open(CharacterFrame) to make it pop up.`
`19:58.12`	`Tuller`	`I still think the buttons are tabs :)`
`19:58.15`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: Is it a known bug that the icons do not work?`
`19:58.25`	`vhaarr`	`They're not tabs.`
`19:58.30`	`phyber`	`Kemayo: I tried that too :/`
`19:58.40`	`phyber`	`heh, it should have been in the paste.`
`19:58.45`	`Tuller`	`iconic tabs, then :P`
`19:58.45`	`phyber`	`d'oh :0`
`19:58.57`	`TheShado`	`sorry someone here know a way to delete files that svn is apparently preventing`
`19:59.10`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: what are you trying to do?`
`19:59.17`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: What you have to understand is that the meaning of "tabs" is defined by the public. Firefox has tabs, IE7 has tabs, the character frame has tabs.`
`19:59.19`	`Tuller`	`check out the previous version if you want to see how it should be working :)`
`19:59.28`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: I know that they are tabs, but they're not tabs in the traditional sense.`
`19:59.32`	`Kemayo`	`phyber: Try registering it with 'cantattach' as true.`
`19:59.39`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: And hence, referring to them as tabs will cause confusion.`
`19:59.40`	`TheShado`	`I am trying to relocate my mods to svn2.wowace.com but so mods can't be deleted`
`19:59.59`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: So you're saying that the icons not working is a bug in the latest version?`
`20:00.03`	`TheShado`	`simple relocate does not work because it says problem`
`20:00.04`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: svn2.wowace.com is a read-only mirror of dev.wowace.com`
`20:00.26`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: the cyCircled should work for actionbuttons, i think :P`
`20:00.26`	`Kemayo`	`Actually, thinking about it, have you tried mousing over the characterframe?`
`20:00.50`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: Its not actually a bug, since it was intentional to try it out`
`20:00.56`	`TheShado`	`JoshBorke here was suggested me to relocate there because svn.wowace.com is telling me problems`
`20:01.09`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: All I know is I downloaded something from wowI and it's not working.`
`20:01.29`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: you want to create an alias that points svn.wowace.com to svn2.wowace.com`
`20:01.53`	`TheShado`	`okay how do I do that`
`20:02.50`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: QuestsFu no longer displays quest levels in TBC.`
`20:03.03`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_frm/thread/b5965b8f0716f0e2/#`
`20:03.40`	`vhaarr`	`And I think it breaks the LFG interface now.`
`20:03.43`	`vhaarr`	`hrm`
`20:03.59`	`Kemayo`	`vhaarr: That's ckknight's doing. I'll have to log in to the beta to take a look at it.`
`20:04.09`	`vhaarr`	`Indeed, I know.`
`20:04.24`	`Kemayo`	`So you're stuck with it for another 8 hours or so. :)`
`20:04.55`	`Kemayo`	`(I'm at work right now, and will have class after that.)`
`20:05.08`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: Why is the keyring Shift-Click to show? Click seems appropriate to me.`
`20:05.20`	`Kemayo`	`Fortunately, class is just a particle physics test, so I'll be done in no time!`
`20:05.30`	`vhaarr`	`Especially since clicking on it now does nothing. Meta-keys are supposed to generate alternate behavior.`
`20:05.32`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: Its not consistent with the other bags then`
`20:05.35`	`vhaarr`	`There's nothing to alternate from now.`
`20:05.38`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo, I had to break it, cause it taints badly. I put a post on the forums, even.`
`20:05.50`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: ?`
`20:05.58`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: shift clicking any other bag will hide it`
`20:06.05`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: I treat the keys as bags`
`20:06.09`	`Kemayo`	`Ooo, there are forums? I should read those. :)`
`20:06.13`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: ah`
`20:06.33`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: but .. clicking the bags do nothing.`
`20:06.40`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: How about just making them all show/hide on click?`
`20:06.58`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo, forums.worldofwarcraft.com`
`20:07.20`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: I just noticed, if you set a OnDoubleClick handler on a FBP, OnClick is invoked before OnDoubleClick.`
`20:07.39`	`ckknight`	`yea, that makes sense.`
`20:07.42`	`vhaarr`	`No, it does not.`
`20:07.49`	`ckknight`	`sure it does.`
`20:07.56`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: it depends on your operating system`
`20:07.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`sure does`
`20:08.01`	`ckknight`	`DoubleClick is a subset of Click.`
`20:08.09`	`vhaarr`	`It's not, it's a superset.`
`20:08.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`isn't that how windows does it? it's how java event handlers work too`
`20:08.13`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: are you trying to svn update addons that you downloaded from a website?`
`20:08.19`	`vhaarr`	`KarlThePagan: No.`
`20:08.21`	`TheShado`	`yes`
`20:08.33`	`vhaarr`	`KarlThePagan: Define "java event handlers".`
`20:08.36`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: you'll want to delete all the contents of the folder first`
`20:08.41`	`vhaarr`	`KarlThePagan: Swing, SWT, AWK, what?`
`20:08.44`	`ckknight`	`either way, vhaarr, that's WoW's doing anyway.`
`20:08.53`	`TheShado`	`couple addons prevent me from doing that`
`20:08.57`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: so there's no way to work it out?`
`20:08.58`	`ckknight`	`so you're not gonna get it changed`
`20:09.03`	`vhaarr`	`that sucks`
`20:09.06`	`JoshBorke`	`TheShado: the individual folders you are trying to svn update`
`20:09.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`awt`
`20:09.19`	`vhaarr`	`KarlThePagan: and tell me who the hell cares about AWT?`
`20:09.19`	`TheShado`	`?`
`20:09.20`	`JoshBorke`	`so if you have a AceTimer folder, delete the contents of that folder and then svn update/co it`
`20:09.30`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: can I know, then, in OnClick that OnDoubleClick is about to get called?`
`20:09.38`	`ckknight`	`not to my knowledge.`
`20:09.41`	`KarlThePagan`	`vhaarr anyone who uses swing`
`20:09.42`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: check post-click`
`20:09.48`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: see how that's fucked up, then?`
`20:09.49`	`TheShado`	`have tried that but it can't be deleted and says cleanup but that can't done eather`
`20:10.03`	`vhaarr`	`JoshBorke: okay`
`20:10.17`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: flag when DoubleClick and then process in post-click`
`20:10.55`	`Kemayo`	`vhaarr: Schedule an event for 0.2 seconds away to handle the OnClick stuff, then cancel it in the OnDoubleClick?`
`20:11.02`	`Kemayo`	`It's ugly, but it would work...`
`20:11.07`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: And you want to tell me that's not ugly?`
`20:11.09`	`vhaarr`	`right.`
`20:11.10`	`vhaarr`	`I know it would work.`
`20:11.19`	`Kemayo`	`It's absolutely hideous, I admit. :)`
`20:11.33`	`Tem`	`vhaarr, it's not a problem with FBP, it's how buttons in wow work`
`20:11.34`	`ckknight`	`actually, schedule for 0 seconds`
`20:11.38`	`ckknight`	`not 0.2 seconds`
`20:11.41`	`vhaarr`	`Calling OnClick when the user is performing a OnDoubleClick is absolutely retarded.`
`20:11.52`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, so take it up with Slouken.`
`20:11.54`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: Then I'm saying blizzard is on crack.`
`20:11.55`	`ckknight`	`not me.`
`20:12.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`vhaarr either you're going to have to implement this kind of filtering in your one use case or Blizz would have to fuck up the 99% of other use cases with the same overhead you're demanding`
`20:12.07`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: I didn't know it was WoW, thanks.`
`20:12.27`	`vhaarr`	`KarlThePagan: Tell me one use case of Click + DoubleClick that makes sense.`
`20:12.55`	`KarlThePagan`	`you mean the case of not having double-click bound?`
`20:12.59`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: Okay, I've tracked down your post. I shall hope for the eventual adding of a secure wrapper...`
`20:13.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`why would I filter the doubleclick in that case?`
`20:13.19`	`KarlThePagan`	`err filter out 1click waiting for 2?`
`20:14.08`	`vhaarr`	`A double-click is always a double-click, no matter if you're registered for it or not. This is not some rocket science, this is long-standing, established UI standards that are cross-platform across 96% of the worlds desktop computers.`
`20:14.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`which I have shown you a counter-example of in existing implementation`
`20:14.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`if you want a use case here's one`
`20:15.12`	`vhaarr`	`I've yet to meet anyone who recognizes AWT as a usable UI library.`
`20:15.28`	`KarlThePagan`	`you meet fact with hyperbole... this is not a constructive argument bye`
`20:16.14`	`Kemayo`	`vhaarr: How is the LFG interface breaking, by the way?`
`20:16.34`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: if you use the first dropdown to select "Quests [Elite]", the second dropdown becomes empty.`
`20:17.06`	`Tuller`	`vhaarr: I didn't actually realize that click no longer picked up a bag :) It should be click, then`
`20:17.13`	`ckknight`	`lol: "My e-peen may be small, but you should see my e-mangina..."`
`20:17.14`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: :D`
`20:17.27`	`vhaarr`	`JoshBorke: can you point me to docs about postclick? it yields no results on wowwiki or wowace.`
`20:17.31`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, do you have elite quests?`
`20:17.36`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: yes :P`
`20:17.37`	`vhaarr`	`I have 3.`
`20:17.45`	`ckknight`	`do they work without QuestFu?`
`20:17.53`	`vhaarr`	`how do you mean?`
`20:17.55`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`20:17.57`	`ckknight`	`disable questfu`
`20:18.00`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`20:18.01`	`ckknight`	`check the LFG interface`
`20:18.05`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`20:18.06`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`20:18.08`	`ckknight`	`run TaintChecker.`
`20:18.15`	`vhaarr`	`I taint the LFG interface.`
`20:18.17`	`ckknight`	`if that's the case.`
`20:18.19`	`vhaarr`	`In QuestsFu.`
`20:18.32`	`vhaarr`	`does that matter?`
`20:18.57`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`20:18.58`	`vhaarr`	`it worked last time I checked in TBC, so either the last TBC patch or some QuestsFu update broke it.`
`20:19.07`	`Kemayo`	`Amusingly enough, vhaarr has done more QuestsFu TBC development than I have. :)`
`20:19.13`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`20:19.14`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`20:19.18`	`vhaarr`	`actually`
`20:19.19`	`ckknight`	`well, check the TaintChecker`
`20:19.23`	`vhaarr`	`They might have changed the API.`
`20:19.26`	`ckknight`	`see what's specifically changed`
`20:19.33`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: I don't have to, I know for a fact that I taint one API call.`
`20:19.38`	`ckknight`	`ah, okay.`
`20:19.46`	`ckknight`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=49627573&sid=1 <-- lol, lots of hate towards Cosmos.`
`20:19.48`	`vhaarr`	`GetLFGTypeEntries`
`20:20.14`	`vhaarr`	`maybe blizzard realised that they had implemented it on crack and reimplemented it, so my override no longer works`
`20:20.43`	`ckknight`	`hehe.`
`20:20.55`	`Tuller`	`so...has anyone noticed a delay when paging the default actionbar using the mousewheel in TBC?`
`20:21.07`	`Kemayo`	`Wow, I'm looking at the hook you wrote for it, and that really is kinda cracked out...`
`20:21.18`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: See what I mean by on crack?`
`20:21.20`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`20:21.41`	`Tain`	`Judging by a single post I can't see how or why Deadlykris is a Customer Service Forum MVP.`
`20:21.51`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: "In addition to OnClick, Button frames also have PreClick and PostClick handlers, invoked before and after the OnClick respectively."`
`20:21.57`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=48647169&sid=1`
`20:22.13`	`vhaarr`	`JoshBorke: Ah, it did not occur to me to look in that thread, thanks alot.`
`20:22.19`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: np :-)`
`20:24.21`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: Doesn't seem like the API changed. Maybe they changed some secure stuff last patch so it no longer accepts input from a tainted API call.`
`20:24.44`	`vhaarr`	`So we have to hook the actual dropdown or something instead.`
`20:24.49`	`vhaarr`	`ffs blizz :P`
`20:25.17`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: sorry, what are you trying to do?`
`20:25.26`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com)`
`20:25.26`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ`
`20:25.30`	`vhaarr`	`Hook GetLFGTypeEntries and show quest levels in the LFG interface.`
`20:25.36`	`vhaarr`	`I'm not trying to do it, I had already done it.`
`20:25.40`	`vhaarr`	`It just stopped working.`
`20:26.29`	`*** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-237-5-116.starstream.net)`
`20:26.59`	`Kirkburn`	`Tain, I agree`
`20:27.19`	`CIA-17`	`03lordrhys 07TBC * r18294 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (FactionItemsFu.lua FuBar_FactionItemsFu.toc): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: updated toc for TBC, fixed unknown symbol error in a line`
`20:27.24`	`Kirkburn`	`People should get informed before making such comments`
`20:30.06`	`JoshBorke`	`hm, there's a double-click event?`
`20:30.26`	`JoshBorke`	`yep...`
`20:30.49`	`JoshBorke`	`i'm confused`
`20:30.50`	`nevcairiel`	`OnDoubleClick ?`
`20:31.59`	`vhaarr`	`Anyone know what CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM is? wowwiki seems to be down here.`
`20:32.31`	`nevcairiel`	`its the event you get when you whisper somone, the local echo, iirc`
`20:32.37`	`vhaarr`	`aha`
`20:32.44`	`vhaarr`	`that's excellent news`
`20:32.46`	`vhaarr`	`nevcairiel: thanks`
`20:33.32`	`JoshBorke`	`vhaarr: is the DoubleClick stuff separate from the LFG stuff?`
`20:33.39`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`20:33.47`	`JoshBorke`	`ah, ok, that's why i was confused`
`20:38.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`vhaarr fyi - MS .NET also raises both click and double-click events on a user double-click`
`20:38.34`	`Tem`	`nevcairiel, error in BT3`
`20:39.00`	`vhaarr`	`KarlThePagan: Alright, that makes no sense to me, I can't think of any use case for it.`
`20:39.37`	`Tem`	`nevcairiel, AceConsole-2.0: args.bar3.args.keybindings.args.button2: "usage" must be a string`
`20:39.55`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm`
`20:40.00`	`nevcairiel`	`whats usage?`
`20:40.36`	`ckknight`	`uage shouldn't be necessary for keybindings.`
`20:40.39`	`ckknight`	`usage*`
`20:40.55`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont set it.`
`20:40.55`	`ckknight`	`nor should you`
`20:40.56`	`ckknight`	`lemme check AceConsole`
`20:40.59`	`ckknight`	`Tem, TBC, right?`
`20:41.02`	`Tem`	`then wtf does that error mean`
`20:41.10`	`Tem`	`Vanilla wow is for chumps`
`20:41.35`	`KarlThePagan`	`I had to install MobHealth3 because shadow word: death is useless without it`
`20:41.36`	`ckknight`	`nevcairiel, what code is this?`
`20:41.45`	`KarlThePagan`	`or if not useless horribly inefficient`
`20:41.48`	`ckknight`	`you need to make sure that validate = 'keybinding'`
`20:42.00`	`nevcairiel`	`validate = "keybinding",`
`20:42.01`	`nevcairiel`	`its in`
`20:42.17`	`Kirkburn`	`KarlThePagan, that you had to install it is a bad thing? :)`
`20:42.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`speaks to poor design of the ability imo :(`
`20:42.43`	`KarlThePagan`	`it's not nearly as forgiving as shadowburn...`
`20:42.52`	`ckknight`	`Tem, should work unless you're not updated.`
`20:42.54`	`nevcairiel`	`i only set default values, nothing fancy`
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`20:44.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`but... considering J. Kaplan's history I feel silly expecting priest offensive abilities to not suck`
`20:44.49`	`Tain`	`More like, "`
`20:44.59`	`Tain`	`Considering the history of every MMORPG to date.`
`20:45.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`not sure about that ;) but ok`
`20:45.40`	`Tain`	`Then name one that lets priests be offensive powerhouses.`
`20:45.48`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r18295 10Ace2/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - added safe errors to PLAYER_LOGIN event.`
`20:45.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`SWG (ok laugh it up)`
`20:45.55`	`Tain`	`WoW's Shadowpriests are already the strongest.`
`20:46.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`but true... I haven't been satisfied by almost any mmo's healing class to date`
`20:46.59`	`Tain`	`Which SWG? The original one or the "revamp" that just compressed all classes into a handful.`
`20:47.00`	`pastamancer`	`bah, MD was only useful if you had a combat profession post-CU (pre NGE)`
`20:47.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`first run SWG... I was an artisan correspondant as Ifele/Vaedross`
`20:47.22`	`pastamancer`	`MD/TKM was the post-CU equivalent of a paladin though :)`
`20:47.56`	`Tain`	`The problem is if you let healers have offense they won't want to heal.`
`20:48.22`	`Tain`	`Of course one way around that is to give everyone (or almost everyone) healing ability.`
`20:48.23`	`KarlThePagan`	`not really ... I'm putting together some group pvp clips as a disc/holy smiter`
`20:48.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`it is difficult`
`20:49.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`the #1 problem is that you have to balance your mana expenditures as the situation calls for eliminating the enemy or healing a dpser`
`20:49.14`	`KarlThePagan`	`if you do both to the max all the time you're oom`
`20:49.22`	`Kemayo`	`Oldskool: http://azeroth.metblogs.com/archives/images/2006/11/wow.jpg`
`20:50.34`	`nevcairiel`	`haha, what was that? first screenshot ever ? :P`
`20:50.52`	`Amadeo`	`Sad that I like that color scheme and layout better...with a little extra tweaking, of course :P`
`20:50.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`crazy`
`20:51.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`the big item slots don't feel blizzard like tho`
`20:51.13`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r18296 10Ace2/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - revamped PLAYER_LOGIN error handling. /rl and /print moved to activate function. /print made better.`
`20:51.14`	`KarlThePagan`	`with wc3's look & feel`
`20:51.22`	`Amadeo`	`yeah, but I love the character view`
`20:51.47`	`Amadeo`	`item graphics look much better than now, too`
`20:51.48`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`20:52.46`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r18297 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua: BigWigs: RaidWarn: Added "Show whispers" toggle, defaults to On; toggle it off to not display whispers your BW sends to other players locally.`
`20:52.46`	`KarlThePagan`	`anyone else getting "400 bad request" trying to update svn?`
`20:52.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Oooh, my UI usage is now down to 17.6 MiB :D`
`20:52.53`	`KarlThePagan`	`checked my proxy server and everything`
`20:54.04`	`Tem`	`is there a bongos for TBC yet?`
`20:54.21`	`Tuller`	`yesish`
`20:54.48`	`Tem`	`mm found it`
`20:55.04`	`Tuller`	`the only major bug is the petbar won't show in combat`
`20:55.13`	`Tuller`	`there's also a delay when paging, it seems`
`20:55.26`	`nevcairiel`	`does manual paging work in combat?`
`20:55.27`	`Tem`	`why won't it show in combat?`
`20:55.47`	`JoshBorke`	`ok back!`
`20:56.43`	`Amadeo`	`I hate Paging`
`20:56.45`	`Amadeo`	`always screws me up`
`20:57.00`	`Amadeo`	`I always turn it off!`
`20:58.08`	`Tuller`	`Tem: I haven't implemented unitexists state header yet`
`20:59.02`	`Tem`	`somestateheader:SetAttribute("unit","pet") RegisterUnitWatch(somestateheader,true) somestateheader:SetAttribute("statemap-unitexists-false","0") somestateheader:SetAttribute("statemap-unitexists-true","1") somestateheader:SetAttribute("addchild",petbarparent) petbarparent:SetAttribute("showstates","1")`
`20:59.02`	`Kirkburn`	`nevcairiel, I think I found an odd thing in BT3 - if I set the alpha of the minibuttons (right name? character, quest, etc), it isn't loaded correctly when I log out/log in`
`20:59.02`	`nevcairiel`	`oh right that reminds me`
`20:59.04`	`Tem`	`golly, that was /hard/`
`20:59.20`	`JoshBorke`	`WOW TEM! that was AMAZING!`
`20:59.25`	`Tuller`	`It took me a while to actually find the registerunitwatch thing :)`
`20:59.38`	`Tem`	`I guess I do have an advantage there...`
`20:59.40`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: [2006/11/28 21:58:58-987-x1]: AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua:1761: attempt to index field 'registry' (a nil value)`
`20:59.54`	`nevcairiel`	`Tem: is there a way to change state on user input? like manual page change when i click a button .. but cannot use actionbar page type buttons ..`
`21:00.09`	`Tem`	`yes, use the "newstate" attribute`
`21:00.10`	`Tuller`	`yes`
`21:00.29`	`nevcairiel`	`oh, i wonderd what i could use that for`
`21:00.34`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: (tbc)`
`21:00.34`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`21:03.47`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`21:03.47`	`ckknight`	`blah.`
`21:03.50`	`ckknight`	`whatever`
`21:03.52`	`ckknight`	`I have class`
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`21:05.55`	`CIA-17`	`03ygraine * r18298 10ManaTideTracker/ (. Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua ManaTideTracker.toc):`
`21:05.55`	`CIA-17`	`ManaTideTracker:`
`21:05.55`	`CIA-17`	`- Added some better options, a duration bar and fixed some bugs regarding action capturing.`
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`21:06.38`	`Tem`	`Tuller, I know I should probably RTFM, but what's the roll bar?`
`21:07.15`	`nevcairiel`	`its the roll frames, where you see loot and can roll .. :D`
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`21:07.38`	`nevcairiel`	`just for scaling and moving, i believe`
`21:10.00`	`haste`	`zomg, a utility for recording videos from games under Linux`
`21:10.05`	`Tem`	`mm ok`
`21:10.05`	`JoshBorke`	`zomg!`
`21:10.07`	`haste`	`that so requires testing`
`21:10.15`	`Tem`	`haste, Taski?`
`21:10.20`	`haste`	`Taski?`
`21:10.21`	`Tem`	`or Taksi or whatever\`
`21:10.28`	`Tem`	`is that the name of the app?`
`21:10.33`	`haste`	`nope`
`21:10.46`	`haste`	`yukon however is`
`21:11.07`	`haste`	`http://www.neopsis.com/projects/yukon/ << for those interested`
`21:12.12`	`haste`	`Tem: Taski looks pretty windows only :D`
`21:12.18`	`Tem`	`a`
`21:14.44`	`LLoydBates`	`site says "It should work for all types of applications that use OpenGL, even those running under wine or cedega" though, cedega and wine run both under Unix :P`
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`21:20.13`	`haste`	`it doesn't work on the latest Cedega`
`21:20.46`	`LLoydBates`	`never tried, my pc isn't fast enough to handle smth. besides wow on cedega`
`21:22.07`	`Teomyr`	`speaking of this, any alternative to fraps/gamecam that doesn't cut down my fps too much?`
`21:24.13`	`vhaarr`	`Gifv TRAC or WebSVN ><`
`21:24.30`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r18299 10Minimalist/ (4 files): Minimalist: Revert mininmap border hide, Remove honor progress for 2.0`
`21:25.27`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm, is minimalist working in 2.0 ?`
`21:26.47`	`JoshBorke`	`Teomyr: fraps/gamecam lower your FPS because of what they are doing. you'll be EXTREMELY hard pressed to find one that doesn't lower your FPS`
`21:28.20`	`Teomyr`	`JoshBorke: i'm happy with the FPS drop of fraps, and to a lesser extent to that of GameCam, but both programs have quirks that kill it for me`
`21:29.19`	`Teomyr`	`JoshBorke: i was looking for another video capture program which doesn't lower my fps either (not like Windows Media Encoder, for example)`
`21:30.15`	`Teomyr`	`i was wondering if theres any nice open source app for it, but i couldn't find any :(`
`21:30.54`	`Uruloke`	`a game vid capture program?`
`21:31.01`	`Teomyr`	`Uruloke: yeah`
`21:31.23`	`Uruloke`	`you wont get away without any loss of FPS, hooking the API does that`
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`21:32.47`	`CIA-17`	`03neriak * r18300 10gfxToggle2/ (14 files in 2 dirs):`
`21:32.47`	`CIA-17`	`gfxToggle2:`
`21:32.47`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed OptionDepts in TOC`
`21:32.48`	`CIA-17`	`- commented out PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD since it's obsolote to reg/unreg things on this events`
`21:32.48`	`CIA-17`	`- removed some old code`
`21:34.43`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18301 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua): FuBar_ToFu: Drycoded Cartographer_Notes integration.`
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`21:36.23`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18302 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Unregister the Cartographer DB ondisable so ckknight won't look at me with those big puppy-dog eyes.`
`21:38.19`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18303 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Change Cartographer support to default to on.`
`21:38.54`	`Kemayo`	`The bug reports I get when I enable random untested code by default make me feel all warm and fuzzy. :P`
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`21:40.15`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`21:40.23`	`ckknight`	`gonna fix that bug, vhaarr`
`21:40.29`	`vhaarr`	`excellent`
`21:40.56`	`KarlThePagan`	`indexing nil raw <- that one?`
`21:41.24`	`Elkano`	`\o/ first part of my library is working :)`
`21:41.25`	`ckknight`	`AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua:1761: attempt to index field 'registry' (a nil value)`
`21:42.19`	`KarlThePagan`	`18296 AceDB.lua line 700 I get nil error using agUF... lemme repro and get the exact line`
`21:42.39`	`ckknight`	`thanks, KarlThePagan`
`21:43.15`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r18304 10Ace2/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - fixed AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua:1761: attempt to index field 'registry' (a nil value)`
`21:43.17`	`KarlThePagan`	`oh but I did see the AceConsole one in my framexml, maybe related`
`21:43.25`	`ckknight`	`test it out.`
`21:43.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`rgr`
`21:44.02`	`Kemayo`	`(If any of you happen to use ToFu and Cartographer, could you let me know if it complains loudly at you when you talk to a flight master?)`
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`21:44.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`gotta get the zip. I'm having TortoiseSVN issues ... HTTP code 400 errors "REPORT of '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request"`
`21:44.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`could be my connection, but my web proxy doesn't give me enough info`
`21:45.05`	`Elkano`	`ckknight, in my lib I have a table self.localvars; I'm doing self.localvars = oldlib.localvars on activation if there is an oldlib; also these localvars contain a table items of about 10k entries; I also have a function self:GetItems returning self.localvars.items; is there anything I have to take care of in order to not waste memory by having tha table dublicated?`
`21:45.31`	`ckknight`	`don't think so.`
`21:46.08`	`Elkano`	`so an addon working on the returned table will work on the same table?`
`21:46.13`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`21:46.20`	`Elkano`	`good :)`
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`21:47.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`ckknight - that fixed it`
`21:48.46`	`ckknight`	`KarlThePagan, yays`
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`21:49.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`if my svn problem persists on another connection who should I see about it? tek?`
`21:50.09`	`gerber^Cavisty`	`Can anybody help me witht he oskin viewport? Whenever i turn it on its all yellow/rainbow colors. Any fix for that?`
`21:50.22`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r18305 10InventoryLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`21:50.22`	`CIA-17`	`InventoryLib`
`21:50.22`	`CIA-17`	`- initial commit`
`21:50.22`	`CIA-17`	`- a lib keeping track of items safe for chat linking and sharing this data among users`
`21:50.29`	`gerber^Cavisty`	`If i turn it to 1x multisampling it works fine`
`21:52.22`	`Elkano`	`ok, data gathering works, next step will be reimplementing DistChat using AceCom :)`
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`21:56.42`	`gerber^Cavisty`	`Any help? =/`
`21:56.53`	`JoshBorke`	`bb all`
`21:58.03`	`gerber^Cavisty`	`Nevermind, i figured it out =)`
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`22:07.23`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r18306 10Prat/modules/PopupMessage.lua: Prat: PopupMessage - check for nil on Addmessage`
`22:13.24`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TBC * r18307 10Ace2/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - now handles TBC-style item links for serialization/deserialization.`
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`22:20.11`	`ckknight`	`alright, I'm done for now.`
`22:21.48`	`gerber^Cavisty`	`Squeenix, any way to move the herb icon?`
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`22:27.32`	`Hjalte`	`Beta keys for mod authors (teach me how to code >.<) http://ui.worldofwar.net/articles.php?&id=10`
`22:37.08`	`Kemayo`	`Hmm... should I give QuestsFu an option to add quest NPCs to Cartographer?`
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`22:38.50`	`CIA-17`	`03eraslin * r18308 10Bidder/main.lua: Bidder: Touching to fix zip file.`
`22:39.43`	`mjc`	`as a lvl19 lock, should I hang out in the barrens ? :P`
`22:39.55`	`Elkano`	`omg, some guys really need a live... http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot111206214417aq0.jpg`
`22:40.11`	`mjc`	`Hjalte: wowinterface.com ahs had something like that for ages`
`22:40.38`	`Hjalte`	`mjc: Yea, but they just reopened it or something :)`
`22:50.34`	`Cairenn`	`and ours isn't closed yet ...`
`22:51.18`	`mjc`	`Cairenn: has had, not had`
`22:51.19`	`mjc`	`;)`
`22:51.58`	`Tem`	`Elkano, what does that text say?`
`22:52.36`	`Elkano`	`well, most interesting part is in the left chatbox -> played: 200d`
`22:52.44`	`Tem`	`ah ok`
`22:52.49`	`Tem`	`I wasn't sure what that text was`
`22:53.04`	`Tem`	`I've got 140ish on my main`
`22:53.04`	`Kaelten`	`hiys guys`
`22:53.21`	`mjc`	`100d on my alt :)`
`22:53.38`	`mjc`	`60 on my first char, 80 on 2nd`
`22:53.40`	`steino`	`122d on my main!`
`22:54.29`	`steino`	`54d on first alt`
`22:55.14`	`Elkano`	`Oo... get a life... all of you... ;)`
`22:55.52`	`steino`	`aaand`
`22:55.56`	`steino`	`lets see`
`22:55.57`	`steino`	`last alt`
`22:56.21`	`steino`	`31d`
`22:58.34`	`mjc`	`http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_330184309.html`
`22:58.42`	`mjc`	`my former advisor was atacked :(`
`23:00.28`	`Tain`	`Not entirely safe for work but funny to me in a pretty juvenille way. http://ifun.ru/comments/joke7689.html`
`23:01.00`	`vhaarr`	`Is that Britney Spears?`
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`23:01.22`	`vhaarr`	`o_O and Haris Pilton, if I'm not mistaken`
`23:01.44`	`Tain`	`That's what my eyes tell me.`
`23:01.44`	`nevcairiel`	`proly fake`
`23:01.51`	`nevcairiel`	`like always`
`23:02.08`	`vhaarr`	`It would've been a pretty big story in the tabloids and stuff if it was real.`
`23:02.09`	`Tain`	`But yeah based on the url itself I'd say it probably is.`
`23:02.18`	`vhaarr`	`Unless they're like taken last night or something.`
`23:02.51`	`vhaarr`	`tbh, they look fake.`
`23:02.59`	`Tain`	`Yeah head chops`
`23:03.00`	`vhaarr`	`if you inspect the "area" more closely`
`23:03.16`	`mjc`	`very bad fakes`
`23:03.52`	`vhaarr`	`the setting is probably real though`
`23:03.56`	`vhaarr`	`I mean them in the same car`
`23:04.00`	`vhaarr`	`and probably the first picture`
`23:04.14`	`vhaarr`	`Finntroll \o/`
`23:04.27`	`mjc`	`no, the bodies are of women I've seen in other photos.. working so I can't hunt them down atm`
`23:04.52`	`vhaarr`	`I see you get around your share of females in cars, then :P`
`23:05.01`	`vhaarr`	`fetish?`
`23:05.13`	`vhaarr`	`:D`
`23:05.43`	`mjc`	`no, I've seen them outside of cars`
`23:05.44`	`mjc`	`;P`
`23:05.52`	`mjc`	`that pussy is unmistakable`
`23:05.57`	`vhaarr`	`haha`
`23:06.21`	`mjc`	`it has weird ridges :P`
`23:06.26`	`vhaarr`	`I just read in some magazine a few weeks ago that foot fetish is the most common one, and that a huge part of the population is probably living it.`
`23:06.46`	`mjc`	`s/tanks pec/tank spec/`
`23:06.48`	`vhaarr`	`and when I confronted one of my friends, he admitted that he was attracted by feet :P`
`23:06.51`	`mjc`	`hahah`
`23:07.00`	`mjc`	`I dislike feet`
`23:07.07`	`vhaarr`	`I was like "wtf, drink beer, suck tits, be a man"`
`23:07.08`	`mjc`	`small breasts are my thing`
`23:07.27`	`vhaarr`	`I can't imagine myself sucking on the big toe of some girl, really.`
`23:07.30`	`vhaarr`	`unless we're in a bath tub`
`23:07.43`	`mjc`	`still can't imagine that of myself`
`23:07.48`	`vhaarr`	`of course, by saying that, according to that statistic, I've offended close to 30 people in this channel`
`23:07.53`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`23:10.58`	`Kirkburn`	`So, uh ..... that film last night was good, eh?`
`23:11.58`	`mjc`	`http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?01400500100000005050501303022151050020000000000 hmm, need to make this suck less`
`23:12.31`	`mjc`	`be nice in TBC to get imp thorns and shite...`
`23:12.33`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: PvP or PvE or mix?`
`23:12.34`	`kergoth`	`sheesh, whats with the wow forums today, overloaded or what`
`23:13.10`	`Rodana`	`wowwiki won't give me a css for it's pages...`
`23:13.12`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: PvE, guild wants me to heal, but I've got 3/4 tier2, so I'm ahead of them by a fair margin`
`23:13.16`	`mjc`	`Rodana: same`
`23:14.05`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: I like the idea of imp thorns but it's not worth trading in omen of clarity or imp enrage, I don't think`
`23:14.30`	`vhaarr`	`omen of clarity is annoying to re-apply all the time`
`23:14.48`	`vhaarr`	`I don't think it's worth it for PvE raiding`
`23:15.17`	`mjc`	`then 3/3 imp thorns, hm`
`23:15.36`	`mjc`	`er`
`23:15.37`	`mjc`	`1/3`
`23:15.39`	`vhaarr`	`well`
`23:15.46`	`vhaarr`	`your goal isn't to get aggro anyway`
`23:16.05`	`vhaarr`	`thorns does not contribute alot to RDPS`
`23:16.33`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: EotPF seems to make a big difference, despite being a complete crap trinket for every other class`
`23:16.44`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: feral aggression seems like a nice skill to me`
`23:16.56`	`vhaarr`	`and brutal impact as well`
`23:17.11`	`mjc`	`I never use bash`
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`23:17.43`	`vhaarr`	`maybe you should, it gives healers some time to breathe during trash`
`23:17.55`	`mjc`	`I'm MT, mostly tanking un-stunnable bosses`
`23:17.59`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`23:18.03`	`mjc`	`and the stunnable ones are too easy for us to care most of the time`
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`23:21.20`	`kergoth`	`hmmm`
`23:21.53`	`mjc`	`man, fuck blizzarda nd their balancing shite`
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`23:25.04`	`Tain`	`http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4276`
`23:27.42`	`CIA-17`	`03neriak * r18309 10gfxToggle2/ (gfxToggle2.lua gfxToggle2.toc):`
`23:27.42`	`CIA-17`	`gfxToggle2:`
`23:27.42`	`CIA-17`	`- removed LoD since I forgot it's a hybrid addon. it's working with and w/o FuBar.`
`23:27.42`	`CIA-17`	`- cleaned up some code again`
`23:28.35`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: how's this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents.html?00000000000000005050501303022151350023050000000`
`23:29.08`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: 503 error`
`23:29.17`	`mjc`	`reload, works ofr me`
`23:30.02`	`Kirkburn`	`Interesting post from Tigole - http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/beta.worldofwarcraft.com/1520314.htm ... he mentions the netx beta push should be this week, btw`
`23:31.10`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MZxxxscMdtA0fV`
`23:31.12`	`Industrial`	`:P`
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`23:32.52`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: http://www.sanctuary-guild.org/index.php/topic,1586.0.html`
`23:32.56`	`Antiarc`	`vhaarr: What you were saying a bit ago about the feet? http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/10414315/detail.html`
`23:34.14`	`vhaarr`	`Antiarc: haha`
`23:35.02`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: I don't think 3/5 imp. motw is worth it, some other druid probably has it anyway.`
`23:35.10`	`CIA-17`	`03dahn * r18310 10Bidder/ (Bidder.toc Libs/): Bidder: zip those externals damn you!`
`23:35.16`	`vhaarr`	`nature's focus would be better imo`
`23:35.29`	`vhaarr`	`interruption sucks`
`23:36.04`	`mjc`	`oops`
`23:36.07`	`mjc`	`I had pasted the wrong url :)`
`23:36.26`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: you're right though`
`23:36.37`	`Fisker`	`still no sign of shadowmoon valley though Kirkburn :o`
`23:37.05`	`Kirkburn`	`True, he doesn't mention it by name there - could still be in it though :)`
`23:37.29`	`Fisker`	`ofcourse :)`
`23:37.29`	`Kirkburn`	`I need something to do now I'm 66`
`23:38.17`	`mjc`	`vhaarr: how about 3/3 imp rejuv instead of sub.`
`23:38.43`	`mjc`	`since 90% of what I do as a healer is spam rejuv and regr.`
`23:38.58`	`vhaarr`	`mjc: depends if you get aggro or not, and if you ever pvp or not`
`23:39.20`	`mjc`	`I don't pvp, and we have trouble w/ druids dying due to aggro on razor (I think it' sthe shitty strat...)`
`23:39.39`	`vhaarr`	`well if you tend to get aggro, then nature's focus is clearly superior`
`23:40.01`	`Industrial`	`YOu know whats anoying when people talk about ##/##/## specs? you never know wtf they are taking...`
`23:40.05`	`mjc`	`well I have zero in it now, I'd imagine some is better than none :P`
`23:40.09`	`mjc`	`Industrial: I linked it`
`23:40.14`	`*** join/#wowace Fwip (n=splinter@user-10mt58b.cable.mindspring.com)`
`23:40.17`	`Industrial`	`about*`
`23:40.47`	`Industrial`	`mjc: yeah but what would 0/30/21 mean`
`23:40.52`	`Industrial`	`:)`
`23:40.59`	`mjc`	`Industrial: I don't do that unless htere's a link`
`23:41.15`	`mjc`	`but I generally take it to mean "the one on wowwiki"`
`23:42.32`	`mjc`	`from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doinsert". MySQL returned error "126: Incorrect key file for table './wowwiki/objectcache.MYI'; try to repair it (localhost)".`
`23:42.33`	`mjc`	`ouch.`
`23:42.38`	`mjc`	`buhbye wowwiki`
`23:46.16`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r18311 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua:`
`23:46.16`	`CIA-17`	`oRA2: Leader/Invite:`
`23:46.17`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:46.17`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`23:47.48`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MZxxxscMdtA0fV`
`23:47.50`	`Industrial`	`kitty time`
`23:47.51`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`23:52.17`	`mjc`	`Industrial: that's my bear spec`
`23:53.16`	`mjc`	`Industrial: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=zZxtMsfbdtA0fV is a kitty spec`
`23:53.21`	`mjc`	`er sorry`
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`23:53.54`	`mjc`	`Industrial: kitty: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=zZxgMcfbdtA0fV`
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`23:57.47`	`TheShado`	`why doesn't wowace updater tell about dependences`
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