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`00:00.01`	`DrDre`	`MrPlow error when trying to "The Works" or Plow : http://ace.pastey.net/2736`
`00:00.10`	`mjc`	`nevcairiel: about ?`
`00:00.53`	`vhaarr`	`DrDre: In 1.12?`
`00:00.57`	`DrDre`	`yes`
`00:01.02`	`vhaarr`	`[Wobin] recently upgraded trunk to 2.0-only.`
`00:01.04`	`CIA-17`	`03takadi * r18075 10Henge/ (17 files in 4 dirs): Henge: EOL fixes, keywords set on toc file.`
`00:01.07`	`DrDre`	`>_>`
`00:01.11`	`vhaarr`	`So if you updated it recently, tough luck.`
`00:01.11`	`DrDre`	`why lol`
`00:01.16`	`Mikma`	`hehe 17 files in 4 dir`
`00:01.25`	`[Wobin]`	`wotwot?`
`00:01.30`	`DrDre`	`that kinda screws us with WAU >_<`
`00:01.33`	`[Wobin]`	`no, it shouldn't be 2.0`
`00:01.36`	`[Wobin]`	`only`
`00:01.49`	`vhaarr`	`It is.`
`00:01.55`	`vhaarr`	`You borked GetItemInfo.`
`00:01.56`	`DrDre`	`itll sort but wont stack or "The works"`
`00:02.05`	`DrDre`	`Wobin: http://ace.pastey.net/2736`
`00:02.05`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`00:02.12`	`[Wobin]`	`Why does it work for me then? =P`
`00:02.19`	`[Wobin]`	`kk I'll look into it`
`00:02.36`	`DrDre`	`i updated it today`
`00:02.51`	`vhaarr`	`Note that I haven't actually tested it in 1.12, I just read the diff @ google groups.`
`00:03.01`	`vhaarr`	`But there's no doubt.`
`00:03.17`	`DrDre`	`changelog-r18046.txt is what one im using`
`00:03.33`	`[Wobin]`	`Vharr =P`
`00:03.36`	`[Wobin]`	`try not to assume =P`
`00:03.37`	`[Wobin]`	`if(lua51) then`
`00:03.37`	`[Wobin]`	`stuff.itemName, stuff.itemLink, stuff.itemRarity, stuff.itemLevel, stuff.itemMinLevel,`
`00:03.37`	`[Wobin]`	`stuff.itemType, stuff.itemSubType, stuff.itemStackCount, stuff.itemEquipLoc, stuff.itemTexture = GetItemInfo(ItemID)`
`00:03.37`	`[Wobin]`	`else`
`00:03.38`	`[Wobin]`	`stuff.itemName, stuff.itemLink, stuff.itemRarity, stuff.itemMinLevel,`
`00:03.40`	`[Wobin]`	`stuff.itemType, stuff.itemSubType, stuff.itemStackCount, stuff.itemEquipLoc, stuff.itemTexture = GetItemInfo(ItemID)`
`00:03.43`	`[Wobin]`	`end`
`00:04.35`	`[Wobin]`	`That error has nothing to do with the sorting`
`00:04.47`	`vhaarr`	`[Wobin]: Pft, that's cheating.`
`00:04.52`	`vhaarr`	`There's a second commit I did not read.`
`00:04.59`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe`
`00:05.04`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`00:05.07`	`[Wobin]`	`Nah, this is something to do with the removal of Compost`
`00:05.39`	`DrDre`	`sort works, cept cant use Plow and i was trying to do it to bank :(`
`00:06.06`	`DrDre`	`doesnt work on bank or inv`
`00:06.44`	`mjc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:06.57`	`[Wobin]`	`Do we have table.maxn now?`
`00:07.03`	`[Wobin]`	`We don't, do we? =(`
`00:07.16`	`[Wobin]`	`oh wait we do`
`00:07.20`	`*** join/#wowace chris152 (n=ablinger@81.189.44.225)`
`00:07.23`	`[Wobin]`	`nm, that's already covered`
`00:09.27`	`CIA-17`	`03laotseu * r18076 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua AllPlayed.toc): AllPlayed: Added an option to display the class names`
`00:10.50`	`Saroz`	`Anyone on tempest keep got a test raid going?`
`00:12.18`	`[Wobin]`	`wowi's test guilds are on there`
`00:12.29`	`[Wobin]`	`oh look, it's in the topic =)`
`00:13.09`	`Saroz`	`I did`
`00:17.14`	`[Wobin]`	`DrDre, strange, I'm getting no errors doing theworks`
`00:17.31`	`DrDre`	`odd`
`00:18.12`	`[Wobin]`	`Do you have profession bags or something?`
`00:18.55`	`DrDre`	`no`
`00:18.56`	`[Wobin]`	`hum, even with profession bags...`
`00:19.08`	`DrDre`	`im not using externals if that makes a difference`
`00:19.11`	`DrDre`	`using standalonelibs`
`00:20.13`	`[Wobin]`	`What version is the WAU listing?`
`00:20.45`	`DrDre`	`r18046`
`00:20.58`	`DrDre`	`i jus ran wau again and that is still latest`
`00:21.04`	`[Wobin]`	`bizarre`
`00:21.28`	`[Wobin]`	`can you give me a screenshot of your bags?`
`00:22.13`	`DrDre`	`using BagNon`
`00:22.33`	`DrDre`	`sec lemme turn addons back on, i was trying to figure out wtf is using so much mem`
`00:24.58`	`[Wobin]`	`MrPlow may do such now =P`
`00:25.01`	`[Wobin]`	`Since I removed Compost`
`00:25.06`	`[Wobin]`	`But I don't know how much =)`
`00:25.25`	`*** join/#wowace anenigma (n=enigma@dsl-124-148-122-136.qld.westnet.com.au)`
`00:25.27`	`DrDre`	`http://fanetworks.net/wow/bags.png`
`00:25.49`	`DrDre`	`"shakes its head at your neat bags" if i do the works >_>`
`00:27.16`	`*** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@12-196-151-251.psknet.net)`
`00:27.16`	`[Wobin]`	`You haven't got bags ignored?`
`00:27.24`	`DrDre`	`?`
`00:27.30`	`DrDre`	`key ring`
`00:27.36`	`[Wobin]`	`and the error keeps popping up?`
`00:27.48`	`DrDre`	`yep`
`00:28.11`	`DrDre`	`[2006/11/25 19:28:03-13-x1]: MrPlow\MrPlow.lua:807: attempt to compare number with table`
`00:28.11`	`DrDre`	MrPlow\MrPlow.lua:807: in function `_Defrag_Move'
`00:28.16`	`[Wobin]`	`try restarting fully?`
`00:28.48`	`DrDre`	`yep`
`00:29.03`	`DrDre`	`ive got like most my addons turned off atm`
`00:29.05`	`DrDre`	`and still does it`
`00:29.25`	`DrDre`	`[2006/11/25 19:29:16-14-x1]: SpecialEvents-Keys-2.0\SpecialEvents-Keys-2.0.lua:17: SpecialEvents-Keys-2.0 requires Metrognome-2.0.`
`00:29.28`	`[Wobin]`	`What does /mp info return`
`00:29.29`	`DrDre`	`how the hell am i getting that error`
`00:29.37`	`DrDre`	`and i dont have that addon O.o`
`00:30.16`	`DrDre`	`facing background will stack items from you(need to add an r here) bank by filling up current stacks`
`00:30.42`	`[Wobin]`	`woop, so I do`
`00:30.50`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r18077 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Correct move position of the frames when users change profiles`
`00:32.33`	`[Wobin]`	`try facing it forwards for a second and trying`
`00:32.40`	`[Wobin]`	`Even though I'm not sure if it'll help`
`00:33.29`	`DrDre`	`that worked >_>`
`00:33.53`	`DrDre`	`so its a problem with backwards ;x`
`00:34.21`	`[Wobin]`	`hokay =)`
`00:34.24`	`[Wobin]`	`And I get the error too =)`
`00:34.28`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`00:34.50`	`DrDre`	`now back to figuring out this mem usage while u fix that :P`
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`00:39.50`	`chris152`	`does anyone know if simplecombatlog is still under development?`
`00:40.26`	Funkeh`	`it is`
`00:40.29`	`DrDre`	`can anyone tell me why this is triggering the function upon login`
`00:40.31`	`DrDre`	`SlashCmdList["BANK"] = function() BagnonFrame_Toggle("Banknon") end`
`00:40.31`	`DrDre`	`SLASH_BANK1 = "/bank"`
`00:40.37`	`DrDre`	`everytime i login my bank is open`
`00:42.24`	`zoktar`	`anyone care for a bug analasys ;P`
`00:42.36`	`zoktar`	`aguf-bonzai`
`00:43.36`	*** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x503e75de.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
`00:43.51`	Funkeh`	`err`
`00:44.05`	Funkeh`	`LV adds the options to disconnect your players, abuse?`
`00:45.06`	`Tekkub`	`LV is trying to use Warmup to prove BigWigs is bad`
`00:45.17`	`Tekkub`	`LV can go fuck themselves :)`
`00:45.20`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r18078 10MrPlow/ (Localization_enUS.lua MrPlow.lua): MrPlow - Fixed reversed sort/stack/etcing`
`00:45.38`	`DrDre`	`lol shows how much they know showing a loadup time as comparison of memory usage`
`00:45.45`	`[Wobin]`	`O.O`
`00:46.00`	`DrDre`	`ty wobin :P test it in a sec`
`00:46.06`	`vhaarr`	`zoktar: Lay it on me.`
`00:46.11`	Funkeh`	`seriously`
`00:46.19`	Funkeh`	`and im supressing my language A LOT`
`00:46.20`	`[Wobin]`	`indeed, LV can go fuck themselves =P`
`00:46.23`	`chris152`	`hmm is fontsize really needed in prat? thought there would be a fontsize option in the regular wow-interface settings...`
`00:46.24`	Funkeh`	`are you kidding me?`
`00:46.28`	Funkeh`	`disconnecting your raid?`
`00:46.42`	`Teomyr`	`source?`
`00:46.45`	Funkeh`	`are you $�^�$&^*$ that idiotic?`
`00:46.49`	Funkeh`	`the new LV`
`00:46.52`	`DrDre`	`hows it do that?`
`00:46.56`	`Teomyr`	`thx`
`00:46.58`	`vhaarr`	`It's simple.`
`00:47.24`	Funkeh`	`I re-uploaded the file and fixed these two bugs. You need to download it again if you are using a french client or want to use the /lvrt logout to logout players who are AFK. You don't need to re-download to receive the command.`
`00:47.24`	`Teomyr`	`probably tries to fetch an invalid item link or something`
`00:47.24`	`*** join/#wowace Viserion (i=HydraIRC@dial-69-55-144-206.sofnet.net)`
`00:47.55`	`Teomyr`	`wait a second... can you be disconnected even without having LVBM installed?`
`00:48.01`	`DrDre`	`id guess not`
`00:48.12`	Funkeh`	`i f***ing hope not`
`00:48.18`	`[Wobin]`	`That's bizarre`
`00:48.31`	`[Wobin]`	`Why log them out?`
`00:48.36`	`DrDre`	`its prolly jus a logout function`
`00:48.49`	Funkeh`	`ah it is`
`00:48.54`	`[Wobin]`	`Or they have some sort of loadstring command`
`00:48.57`	`[Wobin]`	`already built in`
`00:48.58`	Funkeh`	`it wont work for people in combat then`
`00:49.00`	`Tekkub`	`because people out of range of a fight can cause issues prolly`
`00:49.02`	`Tekkub`	`like raggy`
`00:49.05`	Funkeh`	`elseif (event == "CHAT_MSG_ADDON") then`
`00:49.05`	Funkeh`	`if (LVRT_Save.Remote and arg1 == "LVBM RT LOGOUT" and arg2 == UnitName("player") and self:IsPromoted(arg4) >= 1) then`
`00:49.05`	Funkeh`	`self:RaidMsg( string.format(LVRT_SENDLOGOUT_RAID_NOTICE, arg4) );`
`00:49.05`	Funkeh`	`Logout();`
`00:49.15`	`[Wobin]`	`well, can't you just dump them from the raid?`
`00:49.25`	Funkeh`	`ill put it this way`
`00:49.37`	Funkeh`	`if you want to disconnect your afk players i can guarantee you will never see naxx`
`00:49.38`	`*** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BDEEF.versanet.de)`
`00:49.47`	`Tekkub`	`I was told removing from raid didn't always hearth them out`
`00:49.47`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`00:49.52`	`DrDre`	`it doesnt`
`00:49.54`	`DrDre`	`if your raid locked`
`00:50.24`	`Teomyr`	`if you have people going afk unannounced before you engage a boss, they probably won't see naxx either`
`00:50.34`	`Tekkub`	`simple solution, get blizzy to covertly require input to use Logout()`
`00:50.43`	`DrDre`	`or`
`00:50.46`	`DrDre`	`dont use LV :P`
`00:50.48`	`DrDre`	`and use BW!`
`00:51.03`	`haste`	`or do both!`
`00:51.10`	`Tekkub`	`but people do, we should be dicks and get their dickerly feature broken`
`00:51.18`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`00:51.19`	`Teomyr`	`Tekkub: i guess then they could use a more rabiate solution, like trying to fetch an invalid item link and forcing them to disconnect`
`00:51.31`	`Tekkub`	`yes, they could`
`00:51.37`	`Tekkub`	`but in the mean time...`
`00:51.44`	`Tekkub`	`lets get their mod broken!`
`00:51.49`	`Teomyr`	`xD`
`00:52.13`	`DrDre`	`can you write a mod that blocks that from working? "LVProtector" lol`
`00:52.19`	`[Wobin]`	`How, tekk? =)`
`00:52.27`	`Tekkub`	`users would have to install it, but yea`
`00:52.46`	`Tekkub`	`hook Logout, check event.. if it's their addon chat then don't logout`
`00:52.46`	`DrDre`	`im sure ppl who want to use LV and dont want to be D/C'd would use it :P`
`00:53.07`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe`
`00:53.13`	`Tekkub`	`simple mod... two lines of code... please ho.ld`
`00:53.14`	Funkeh`	`teomyr: i dont think thats possible without disconnecting th sender also`
`00:53.17`	`[Wobin]`	`Have it send back a message "HAHA Not likely"`
`00:53.22`	Funkeh`	`LOL`
`00:53.23`	`Teomyr`	`"LVBM Logout protector, sponsored by BigWigs"`
`00:53.27`	Funkeh`	`:DDD`
`00:53.30`	`DrDre`	`ROFL`
`00:53.38`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18079 10SilverDragon/ (. Core.lua Locals.enUS.lua SilverDragon.toc):`
`00:53.38`	`CIA-17`	`SilverDragon:`
`00:53.38`	`CIA-17`	`- Remembers where rare mobs are. Not yet confirmed to be working, as I haven't seen a rare since I started writing it, damnit.`
`00:53.39`	`CIA-17`	`- Initial import.`
`00:53.41`	`DrDre`	`do it`
`00:53.56`	`phyber`	`are there any mods for sending a lot of money to people? for example, we have a list of people who we want to send money to after a molten core money run.`
`00:53.58`	`DrDre`	`and upload to curse since most the lvbm get it from there and link it as comment of lvbm :P`
`00:54.01`	`[Wobin]`	`rofl build it into Ace =P`
`00:54.37`	`Tekkub`	`local h = Logout`
`00:54.37`	`Tekkub`	`Logout = function()`
`00:54.37`	`Tekkub`	`if event == "CHAT_MSG_ADDON" and arg1 == "LVBM RT LOGOUT" then return else return h() end`
`00:54.37`	`Tekkub`	`end`
`00:54.39`	`[Wobin]`	`phyber: Not that I know of... sounds ripe for "Send to lots of people (plus the author of the mod)"`
`00:54.48`	`Tekkub`	`feel free to package it and publish it`
`00:54.57`	Funkeh`	`some of the things in LV take the utter piss really though`
`00:55.25`	Funkeh`	`im at nefarian the other day killing some rogues on priest phase as usual and one of my priests says LV blocks me from healing, im laughing the rest of the night`
`00:55.31`	`Tekkub`	`there's no way LV can stop it either, short of disabling the addon`
`00:55.40`	`Tekkub`	`which one could also hook...`
`00:55.42`	`Tekkub`	`^^`
`00:55.56`	`DrDre`	`they could change the event data`
`00:56.00`	`DrDre`	`like`
`00:56.08`	`mjc`	`blah, I LoD'd and X-S&D-InRaided an addon and something's still loading it .. :9`
`00:56.09`	`DrDre`	`LVBM RT DONTBREAKMYLOGOUT`
`00:56.20`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`00:56.28`	`Tekkub`	`hrm... true...`
`00:56.42`	`DrDre`	`jus check for LVBM at front of it`
`00:56.47`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18080 10SilverDragon/ (. Core.lua): SilverDragon: Set keywords and externals.`
`00:56.50`	`DrDre`	`im sure they wouldnt change the prefix jus to bypass it :P`
`00:56.57`	`Kemayo`	`There. Now, someday I will see a rare again, and know whether or not the damn thing works.`
`00:57.12`	`Kemayo`	`(Worst mod to have to debug errors in ever.)`
`00:57.14`	`Tekkub`	`who knows, could be easily countered any time they change it tho`
`00:57.19`	`DrDre`	`whats it do kem?`
`00:57.30`	`Kemayo`	`Remembers where rare mobs are.`
`00:58.08`	`Kemayo`	`(The ones with the silver dragons around their portraits, thus the name.)`
`00:58.21`	`DrDre`	`theres one in a cave in silverpine thats like alwayss up`
`00:58.31`	Funkeh`	`the funniest thing was in the warmup screenshot they show ct_bossmods as less memory usage than LV then say LV is better than it, uhu :X`
`00:58.44`	`phyber`	`I guess blizzard will make the logout function need a keypress after bullshit like that. (or, I hope they do)`
`00:59.17`	`Tekkub`	`the screenie is BS cause the use LoD version of LV, but their release is NOT LoD`
`00:59.22`	Funkeh`	`anyone can make a post on the US forums to stop malicious logouts? :P`
`00:59.36`	`Tekkub`	`phy, ask slow to, give a reason, I'm sure he will do it`
`01:00.19`	`phyber`	`Tekkub: I don't have a US account or I'd be there posting already :(`
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`01:01.03`	`haste`	`Tekkub: their release is LoD afaik, at least when I looked at the 2.00 version`
`01:01.12`	`haste`	`read looked as: opened the zip`
`01:01.22`	`Tekkub`	`release was not when I looked at that pic last week`
`01:01.30`	`Tekkub`	`beta might have been, but release was not`
`01:02.53`	`Kemayo`	`Hmm... MrPlow is committed with debug turned on. ;_;`
`01:02.53`	Funkeh`	`its still cheap to type something like that`
`01:02.53`	Funkeh`	`and its just plain immature`
`01:02.53`	`DrDre`	`lol.`
`01:02.53`	Funkeh`	`you wonder how old they are`
`01:03.07`	`Tekkub`	`they're not native english speakers, that's very obvious`
`01:03.19`	`Tekkub`	`and considering the "La" I'll assume they're french`
`01:03.21`	Funkeh`	`their both german`
`01:03.32`	Funkeh`	`:D`
`01:03.41`	`Tekkub`	`which explains the attitude, as any Motny Python fan knows`
`01:03.58`	`vhaarr`	`^^`
`01:04.40`	`Tekkub`	`wonder if I can override MountMe's fu frame with a secure one`
`01:04.51`	`Tekkub`	`since I can't use castspell anymore`
`01:04.52`	`DrDre`	`ok so no one addon is accumulating massive memory usage :/ its just my sheer ammount of addons gets me up to 50mb initial ;(`
`01:05.21`	`*** join/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=astrayca@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com)`
`01:06.10`	`DrDre`	`so noone knows why my bank slashcommand code is doing this`
`01:06.31`	`Teomyr`	`unfortunately not`
`01:06.57`	`Tekkub`	`doing whatnow?`
`01:07.13`	`DrDre`	`SlashCmdList["BANK"] = function() BagnonFrame_Toggle("Banknon") end`
`01:07.14`	`DrDre`	`SLASH_BANK1 = "/bank"`
`01:07.20`	`DrDre`	`is causing my bank to open upon login`
`01:07.33`	`DrDre`	`its like running the code on login but it still works`
`01:07.55`	`*** join/#wowace [Liquidor] (n=chatzill@port227.ds1-sg.adsl.cybercity.dk)`
`01:08.02`	`Tekkub`	`heh`
`01:08.14`	`Tekkub`	`no clue`
`01:11.10`	`Miles`	`50mb initial is nothing`
`01:11.18`	`Miles`	`I've got 80m here`
`01:11.34`	`DrDre`	`see what confuses me`
`01:11.39`	`DrDre`	`my alt is generally lower initial...`
`01:11.41`	`DrDre`	`with the same addons`
`01:12.12`	`Maldivia`	`pr char saved variables`
`01:12.24`	`Hjalte`	`Is there any guidelines for how much addon memory you should assign... Like double of what they're using or?`
`01:12.49`	`Tekkub`	`muahahahaha`
`01:12.54`	`mjc`	`anyone around that can reset my svn password? I'm a tard :)`
`01:13.01`	`Tekkub`	`I'm fucking with Anduin in TBC`
`01:13.08`	`mjc`	`lol tek`
`01:13.32`	`Tekkub`	`pokes AL with a synthetic Tauren phallus`
`01:14.35`	`DrDre`	`what the fuck, i added a Def chat frame:addmsg to the function () for bank... thats not printing on login yet it does when i do /bank`
`01:15.16`	`DrDre`	`does .toc changes get applied to reloadui?`
`01:15.27`	`sylvanaar`	`is track gone? or do you have a static?`
`01:15.28`	`DrDre`	`ie optionaldeps field`
`01:15.32`	`Teomyr`	`DrDre: no`
`01:16.19`	`sylvanaar`	`any time you change the toc you need to reload the game except in a couple cases`
`01:16.45`	`Kemayo`	`There isn't an Ace2 (or really any lightweight) addon that interoperated with GuildCalendar, is there?`
`01:17.15`	`DrDre`	`ok so`
`01:17.23`	`DrDre`	`having Banknon as an optionaldep was causing it O.o`
`01:17.25`	`chris152`	`maybe this one here.. don't know`
`01:17.26`	`chris152`	`Combine <DIR>4 Eintr�ge04.10.06 A true guild and raid management system. (Kaelten)`
`01:17.39`	`chris152`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=Combine/`
`01:17.42`	`mjc`	`Kemayo: not really`
`01:18.57`	`Kemayo`	`Nuts. My new guild wants me to install it, and the download looks a bit... heavy.`
`01:18.59`	`vhaarr`	`AFAIK, Combine isn't ready.`
`01:19.43`	`chris152`	`ah okay`
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`01:31.17`	`DrZoot`	`Anyone got any idea why the range type in an ace options table wont accept function names as strings, only actualy functions passed in the table? Its really starting to do my head in`
`01:31.26`	`phyber`	`Kemayo: time to code a replacement then. or find a guild that doesn't force you to use shit mods.`
`01:37.05`	`Tekkub`	`Zoot, did you define handler?`
`01:40.18`	`sylvanaar`	`DrZoot: that stuff is not documented well. everyone does it different ways`
`01:42.31`	`mjc`	`kergoth: ping`
`01:44.06`	`vhaarr`	`The handler is set automatically for you if it's not defined, and in 95% of the cases, the handler will be correct.`
`01:44.29`	`vhaarr`	`You only need to set it manually if you're dealing with a AceOptions table that spans multiple AceAddons.`
`01:45.29`	`DrZoot`	`Ok, Im new to ace so just to make sure where on the same page, the handlers your talking about are the set/get functions right?`
`01:45.34`	`vhaarr`	`Yes.`
`01:45.36`	`vhaarr`	`No.`
`01:45.41`	`DrZoot`	`lol`
`01:45.45`	`vhaarr`	`The handler is for the get/set functions.`
`01:45.51`	`vhaarr`	`It's not THE get/set functions.`
`01:46.17`	`vhaarr`	`But it's not specific to the range type.`
`01:46.32`	`vhaarr`	`Could you pastey your AceOptions table and point to where the problem is?`
`01:46.49`	`sylvanaar`	`handler is undocumented, he doesnt even know it exists probably`
`01:46.57`	`DrZoot`	`certainly, just give me one sec`
`01:47.16`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: He probably doesn't need to set it either.`
`01:47.27`	`DrZoot`	`yeah Ive just been going off the ace options docs on the wowace wiki`
`01:47.30`	`sylvanaar`	`vhaarr: i agree`
`01:47.33`	`Tekkub`	`rep discount is 10% right?`
`01:48.06`	`vhaarr`	`I think so, and then there's Sergeants discount as well, IIRC.`
`01:48.14`	`vhaarr`	`Which should also be 10%?`
`01:48.21`	`Tekkub`	`that doesn't matter`
`01:48.28`	`Tekkub`	`TBC faction`
`01:50.57`	`Kemayo`	`vhaarr: You're Rabbit, right? (SVN-wise, that is.)`
`01:51.03`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`01:51.13`	`DrZoot`	`vhaarr: http://pastebin.com/832942 thats the relevant parts of the code, the indenting has gone kind of strange though`
`01:52.10`	`Kemayo`	`aUF_Banzai\aUF_Banzai.lua:12: AceHook-2.0: There is a stale hook for "StatusBarsColor" can't hook or reactivate.`
`01:52.56`	`vhaarr`	`aUF_Banzai doesn't work, and I won't fix it until TBC.`
`01:53.20`	`sylvanaar`	`DrZoot: i usually use <modulename>,optionstable`
`01:54.04`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: Or is this in the TBC branch?`
`01:54.42`	`vhaarr`	`DrZoot: What error does that give you, then?`
`01:54.49`	`sylvanaar`	`DrZoot: AxonHUD.optionstable = vs local axon_opts`
`01:55.32`	`vhaarr`	`sylvanaar: How does that matter?`
`01:56.30`	`sylvanaar`	`vhaarr: not sure, and dont care, but it works for me - i had the same issue hes having at one point`
`01:57.40`	`sylvanaar`	`DrZoot: also, move your RegisterChatCommand`
`01:57.58`	`vhaarr`	`Why?`
`01:58.05`	`sylvanaar`	`DrZoot: into OnInitialize`
`01:58.15`	`DrZoot`	`yeah, its all a bit untidy atm, just trying to get a feel for ace. Does the code look as though it should work? Because whenever I got to use the range element from the command line it gives the error "Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2170: AceConsole-2.0: AceConsole-2.0: Option Handler "GetYOffset" Not Found."`
`01:58.20`	`CIA-17`	`03mpstark * r18081 10PetExtend/ (Core.lua Pet.lua):`
`01:58.20`	`CIA-17`	`PetExtend:`
`01:58.20`	`CIA-17`	`Fixed small error.`
`01:58.43`	`vhaarr`	`DrZoot: Then set the handler.`
`01:58.48`	`vhaarr`	`And it should work.`
`01:59.38`	`DrZoot`	`Ok, sorry to be a pain but how would I go about that? I thought the handler was the GetYOffset function?`
`02:00.08`	`vhaarr`	`at line 3, add \|handler = AxonHUD,\|`
`02:01.08`	`sylvanaar`	`http://ace.pastey.net/2738`
`02:01.26`	`sylvanaar`	`do it that way`
`02:02.06`	`sylvanaar`	`so you dont have to set handler`
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`02:05.39`	`Kemayo`	`vhaarr: Ah, okay. It's not the TBC branch, so I shall disable it.`
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`02:05.53`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: Are you playing TBC?`
`02:05.53`	`Amadeo`	`Does anyone speak Japanese? :)`
`02:06.28`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: Because it works fine there with the branch.`
`02:06.28`	`CIA-17`	`03ygraine * r18082 10ManaTideTracker/ (. Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua ManaTideTracker.toc):`
`02:06.28`	`CIA-17`	`ManaTideTracker: initial commit`
`02:06.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Allows for the tracking of Mana Tide and Enamored Water Spirit cooldowns within the raid.`
`02:06.28`	`Kemayo`	`Nope, regular game. :)`
`02:06.28`	`vhaarr`	`then sorry`
`02:06.55`	`Kemayo`	`vhaarr: Your position is quite reasonable.`
`02:06.57`	`Amadeo`	`Someone in here must speak Japanese!`
`02:07.24`	`sylvanaar`	`babelfish?`
`02:07.27`	`sylvanaar`	`or something`
`02:07.46`	`Amadeo`	`it's not working :(`
`02:08.05`	`sylvanaar`	`what do you want to translate`
`02:08.48`	`DrZoot`	`Hrmm, ok. Tried both suggestions and its still giving the same error.`
`02:09.27`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r18083 10Prat/modules/ (AddonMessages.lua Buttons.lua EventNames.lua): Prat : Updated localization koKR`
`02:11.16`	`vhaarr`	`DrZoot: I usually don't use the \|get = "Function"\| style, I use \|get = function() return Addon.db.profile.value end\|`
`02:11.28`	`vhaarr`	`and \|set = function(v) Addon.db.profile.value = v end\|`
`02:11.48`	`vhaarr`	`Reduces the amount of functions I have to pollute the addon object with.`
`02:12.26`	`DrZoot`	`vhaarr: Ok, Ill give that a go instead.`
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`02:21.19`	`Hjalte`	`The latest wowace version of mrplow has debug on :)`
`02:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`03ygraine * r18084 10ManaTideTracker/:`
`02:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`ManaTideTracker:`
`02:21.33`	`CIA-17`	`- added externals`
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`02:29.18`	`sylvanaar`	`vhaarr: that just introduces another set of issues. im wondering why the method i mentioned didnt work.`
`02:29.40`	`sylvanaar`	`DrZoot: can you pastey your code, with the changes i illustrated`
`02:29.55`	`CIA-17`	`03ygraine * r18085 10ManaTideTracker/:`
`02:29.55`	`CIA-17`	`ManaTideTracker:`
`02:29.55`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed externals (reading comprehension ftw)`
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`02:32.35`	`CIA-17`	`03ygraine * r18086 10ManaTideTracker/Core.lua:`
`02:32.35`	`CIA-17`	`ManaTideTracker:`
`02:32.35`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed class specification error`
`02:35.26`	`DrZoot`	`sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/2745`
`02:35.41`	`sylvanaar`	`DrZoot: um`
`02:37.46`	`sylvanaar`	`http://ace.pastey.net/2749`
`02:38.22`	`sylvanaar`	`take out hanlder, i forgot to`
`02:38.41`	`sylvanaar`	`http://ace.pastey.net/2750`
`02:44.23`	`sylvanaar`	`vhaarr: the real question is why cant the aceoptions code be given just the name of the profile setting`
`02:48.43`	`sylvanaar`	`vhaarr: i suppose you could set something like that up using the pass=true setting from the containing group`
`02:52.55`	`sylvanaar`	`anyone know what the signature of a get function would look like in a passing group? func = function(key)`
`02:53.25`	`sylvanaar`	`set = function(key, val)`
`02:53.28`	`sylvanaar`	`i meant set`
`02:55.09`	`sylvanaar`	`you could mate that set = function(key, val) self.db.profile.key = val end ... assuming that you made the names of the sub entries the same as your profile values`
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`03:03.02`	`sylvanaar`	`that actually works`
`03:03.48`	`haste`	`Amadeo: why do you need someone that speaks japanese :p ?`
`03:07.54`	`mjc`	`so this company that keeps spamming on magtheridon and suramar is down the street from my work`
`03:08.19`	`mjc`	`going to pay those fuckfaces a visit tomorrow, have a small court claim for their asses`
`03:09.51`	`haste`	`:D`
`03:09.56`	`haste`	`damn id`
`03:10.09`	`kergoth`	`hrm, anyone tested trunk tinytip? doesnt seem to be working here, no errors though`
`03:10.12`	`kergoth`	`mjc, damn`
`03:10.27`	`mjc`	`kergoth: you missed ony`
`03:14.36`	Funkeh`	`./print string.find("Enemy's Thunderclap hits player for 1200 Nature damage.", "^Enemy's Thunderclap hits ([^%s]+) for %d+% Nature damage.") returns 1 55 player. what does the 1 55 mean?`
`03:17.38`	`haste`	`looks like I have to learn how to use vim also now`
`03:17.52`	`haste`	`I'll always hate you for showing me that image Industrial !`
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`03:32.10`	`Kemayo`	`Huh. I just crashed someone's game by sending them a note with Cartographer.`
`03:32.36`	`sylvanaar`	`cool`
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`03:42.42`	`Zyphr`	`pimpin`
`03:43.35`	`haste`	`vim is scaring me`
`03:44.00`	`XLVII`	`Orc or Undead Rogue for pure raiding? I read somewhere that the Orc racial is going to be 'buffed'`
`03:44.18`	`Zyphr`	`orc ftw`
`03:44.19`	`Zyphr`	`imo`
`03:44.40`	`XLVII`	`or is it worth waiting for Blood Elves?`
`03:44.49`	`haste`	`isn't the orc racial going to be nerfed?`
`03:45.25`	`Zyphr`	`it scales now`
`03:45.36`	`Zyphr`	`i don't think its a nerf`
`03:45.47`	`Zyphr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:45.47`	`Zyphr`	`")`
`03:45.49`	`Zyphr`	`do it!`
`03:48.34`	`kergoth`	`mjc, yea, i didnt make any raids this week, been enjoying the holiday week`
`03:50.13`	`Tem`	`any play a shaman as their main?`
`03:50.17`	`Tem`	`anyone*`
`03:51.07`	`haste`	`I did, until two months ago`
`03:51.19`	`Tem`	`how does Far Sight work?`
`03:51.28`	`Tem`	`what breaks it?`
`03:51.38`	`haste`	`everything afaik`
`03:51.48`	`haste`	`It's a channeled spell tho'`
`03:56.56`	`mjc`	`kergoth: you missed 10 wipes on razor cause of their retarded strat`
`03:59.20`	`Tem`	`haste, no, I mean it seems to break for no apparent reason when I recast it`
`03:59.35`	`Tem`	`I don't think it's LoS`
`03:59.52`	`haste`	`You could chain-cast it around corners before`
`03:59.57`	`haste`	`not sure if that still works`
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`04:03.26`	`Tem`	`you still can`
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`04:03.57`	`Tem`	`I got from stormwind almost to STV`
`04:04.27`	`Tem`	`but then it broke for no reason`
`04:04.31`	`Miles`	`oO`
`04:05.39`	`Miles`	`Damn.. The MSFS manual of the Garmin-1000`
`04:05.45`	`Miles`	`'s GPS is 42 pages :/`
`04:06.30`	`Miles`	`I just figured out how to set the nav, but still no clue how to set the ILS approach`
`04:07.28`	`sylvanaar`	`i want to show damage statistics on the mobs unitframe which unitframe mod would you suggest i look into?`
`04:07.58`	`Miles`	`statistics or just hits?`
`04:08.37`	`sylvanaar`	`well, it would have to be extensible so i can write the code to get the statistics`
`04:09.04`	`Tem`	`Curses!`
`04:09.06`	`Tem`	`I'm out of mana`
`04:09.20`	`Miles`	`if it's dps in/out + heal/sec you want, write your own module for aguf. It's quite easy to add an extra tag and use that to replace some of the standard texts`
`04:09.34`	`sylvanaar`	`ok - i'll do that`
`04:10.11`	`Miles`	`dmmeters integration or listening to UNIT_COMBAT events and do it yourself?`
`04:10.25`	`sylvanaar`	`sw stats integration, but yeah`
`04:10.48`	`sylvanaar`	`its the only one that can provide values in realtime`
`04:11.16`	`haste`	`kergoth: I see why you like vim so much now`
`04:11.35`	`haste`	`been playing with it the last hour (and it's 05:10 here right now)`
`04:11.38`	`sylvanaar`	`whats with vim`
`04:11.55`	`Miles`	`vim sucks if you work on multiple documents`
`04:12.17`	`sylvanaar`	`i cant find an editor im happy with for lua`
`04:12.37`	`sylvanaar`	`they are all hack jobs or 80's editors`
`04:12.41`	`mjc`	`csite`
`04:12.42`	`mjc`	`scite`
`04:12.42`	`Miles`	`no where near the usability of a tabbed editor with standard toolkits`
`04:12.52`	`mjc`	`scite or emacs ;P`
`04:13.05`	`Miles`	`scite tabbed mode and link it to your luac/lua binaries`
`04:13.13`	`sylvanaar`	`no = emacs is evil`
`04:13.28`	`kergoth`	`yeah, vim sure sucks for multiple files already, with extensive windowing support and tabs for multiple workspaces`
`04:13.38`	`kergoth`	`its not like i use it for 20+ files at a time or anything`
`04:13.50`	`kergoth`	`s/ready/right/`
`04:13.52`	`kergoth`	`silly fingers`
`04:14.13`	`mjc`	`vim can't select within a line, kind of annoying`
`04:14.28`	`kergoth`	`hm?`
`04:14.31`	`mjc`	`plus I find it easier to write in lisp than to hack vim crap`
`04:14.35`	`kergoth`	`yes it can`
`04:14.39`	`Miles`	`and gg utf8 support in consoles`
`04:14.41`	`mjc`	`I used vim for a long time`
`04:14.46`	`kergoth`	`visual mode is only line based if you use line based`
`04:14.50`	`mjc`	`miles: emacs supports utf8 :)`
`04:14.53`	`kergoth`	`use 'v', not 'V'`
`04:14.55`	`kergoth`	`so does vim.`
`04:15.09`	`Miles`	`afaik, the console fonts don't`
`04:15.17`	`Miles`	`so it shows ?'s or nothing at all`
`04:15.24`	`kergoth`	`eh?`
`04:15.28`	`kergoth`	`get a decent console`
`04:15.30`	`kergoth`	`that has nothing to do with vim`
`04:15.31`	`kergoth`	`or use gvim`
`04:15.47`	`kergoth`	`if you're going to comment on vim, at least come up with something actually about vim, not your terminal`
`04:16.03`	`kergoth`	`modern xterms support utf8, as does rxvt-unicode and others`
`04:16.11`	`sylvanaar`	`god - what does it do thats special`
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`04:16.34`	`Miles`	`the only 'real' unicode font is Arial Unicode MS @ 13M, or Batang or some other weird font families for asian stuff. Very non monospace`
`04:16.40`	`kergoth`	`what?`
`04:16.41`	`mjc`	`Linux terminal supports unicode too`
`04:16.45`	`mjc`	`miles you are on crack`
`04:16.49`	`Miles`	`console mode editors means that you're limited to an european character set rly`
`04:17.03`	`kergoth`	`bitstream vera sans mono works fine for some glyphs, and there are NUMEROUS vera based fonts that include numerous glyphs for other languages`
`04:17.07`	`mjc`	`you are on crack, miles.`
`04:17.08`	`kergoth`	`including the font i use on a daily basis`
`04:17.10`	`kergoth`	`agreed`
`04:17.21`	`kergoth`	`i can go look at russian in my terminal just fine`
`04:18.02`	`kergoth`	`http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page is my personal preference`
`04:18.07`	`kergoth`	`Most DejaVu fonts are suitable for Latin (Western and Central European, African Latin and International Phonetic alphabets), Cyrillic (European) and Greek (Modern and Polytonic). Arabic, Armenian, Hebrew and Lao are currently in development and included in DejaVu Sans.`
`04:18.12`	`kergoth`	`yeah, thats just european alright`
`04:18.18`	Funkeh`	`nn`
`04:18.25`	`Miles`	`err, bitstream vera from gnome is like 258k.`
`04:18.41`	`Tem`	`kergoth, what's the second virtue?`
`04:18.56`	`Tem`	`laziness, ?, impatiences, hubris`
`04:18.57`	`mjc`	`unicode fonts are like 300K because of the amount of characters...`
`04:19.30`	`kergoth`	`dejavu is like 3 megs zipped due to all those chars`
`04:19.44`	`Miles`	`batang.ttc = 16258580b, or 15.5M`
`04:19.54`	`Miles`	`that's an asian only font`
`04:20.02`	`kergoth`	`okay, and?`
`04:20.14`	`mjc`	`Miles: so?`
`04:20.15`	`Miles`	`add some other glyphs and you'll add up to 20M at least for unicode support`
`04:20.21`	`kergoth`	`i still dont see what your deviation into fonts has anything to do with terminal encoding capabilities or vim`
`04:20.33`	`Tem`	`kergoth, poke`
`04:20.33`	`kergoth`	`i'm still waiting to hear if you actually have a point to make`
`04:20.37`	`kergoth`	`Tem, laziness, impatience, and hubris are the 3 from larry wall`
`04:20.47`	`kergoth`	`the 4th was added by rusty russell, and is fear of complexity`
`04:20.51`	`kergoth`	`(in a paper he did for OLS)`
`04:20.52`	`Tem`	`aaaah yes`
`04:20.53`	`Tem`	`thank you`
`04:20.55`	`kergoth`	`np`
`04:21.33`	`mjc`	`kergoth: man we get a lot of idiots in here lately :p`
`04:21.39`	`Miles`	`console = suck unicode support. vim/emacs (no idea with gvim, assuming same, since it requires monospace) = console mode. vim/emacs = teh suck if you need to read localizations.`
`04:21.48`	`mjc`	`proof /`
`04:21.49`	`mjc`	`?`
`04:21.53`	`kergoth`	`what the fuck are you talking about?`
`04:22.32`	`kergoth`	`console does not imply sucky unicode support. if you're unable to find a decent font, thats your problem, and has nothing to dow ith the terminal's capabilities`
`04:22.52`	`kergoth`	`and gvim uses gtk, which supports unicode just fine, again, if you're unable to find a decent font, thats your problem`
`04:23.32`	`kergoth`	`i'm sure the thousands of developers and translators using vim and emacs on a daily basis might have something to say about your ignorance on the subject`
`04:23.35`	`Miles`	`No linux variant except Red Flag Linux (which is a joke) has decent built-in, unicode complete fonts rly.`
`04:23.38`	`kergoth`	`i certainly do`
`04:23.46`	`mjc`	`works fine for me.`
`04:23.48`	`kergoth`	`which is a font problem.`
`04:23.53`	`kergoth`	`if you're going to talk about fonts, talk about fonts`
`04:24.03`	`kergoth`	`dont pull any more nonsense out of your ass, thanks.`
`04:24.21`	`Miles`	`never mind. Just keep thinking that you're ready for the world with just 300k of glyphs`
`04:24.39`	`mjc`	`http://325i.org/braille.png :p`
`04:24.40`	`kergoth`	`dejavu does not have 300k of glyphs`
`04:24.45`	`kergoth`	`get a fucking clue, jackass.`
`04:25.02`	`kergoth`	`next time you decide to comment on an editor's capabilities, talk about its capabilities, not a font issue`
`04:25.44`	`sylvanaar`	`actually your retort to the character issue was to suggest other versions of the editor`
`04:25.54`	`kergoth`	`..`
`04:25.55`	`kergoth`	`what?`
`04:26.02`	`Miles`	`http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/checkout/dejavu/trunk/dejavu-fonts/unicover.txt`
`04:26.03`	`mjc`	`sylvanaar: actually he never stated any kind of issue`
`04:26.27`	`kergoth`	`if you have a problem with monospace fonts, then talk about that, dont try to ascribe it to specific editors`
`04:26.31`	`mjc`	`sylvanaar: he said if his terminal sucks, then use a version of vim that doesn't require a terminal, simple as that`
`04:26.34`	`kergoth`	`complete and utter nonsense`
`04:26.53`	`Miles`	`ah, vim zealots :>`
`04:27.00`	`kergoth`	`mjc doesnt use vim`
`04:27.05`	`kergoth`	`and he clearly sees your idiocy for what it is`
`04:27.30`	`mjc`	`I use emacs on real OSes and scite when I need to hack something fast on windows`
`04:27.37`	`mjc`	`has nothing to do with vim :)`
`04:28.35`	`kergoth`	`saying an editor sucks because you cant seem to find a decent font is .. i dont even have a word for just how foolish that is.`
`04:28.47`	`kergoth`	`i particularly like how miles assumes i'm using linux, which i'm not, yet am still using vim just fine`
`04:28.54`	`Miles`	`I didn't said that vim sucked`
`04:28.55`	`kergoth`	`ignorance abounds`
`04:29.21`	`CIA-17`	`03cwdg * r18087 10Prat/modules/ (AddonMessages.lua PopupMessage.lua): Prat: Update locale zhCN.`
`04:29.24`	`Miles`	`it's just the whole family, from edit up to vim/emacs. Console mode limits your font choice, it's simple as that`
`04:29.36`	`mjc`	`Miles: um, no`
`04:29.41`	`mjc`	`Miles: get a decent fucking terminal`
`04:29.50`	`mjc`	`Miles: or learn to set up your environment as UTF-8`
`04:29.56`	`mjc`	`either way, you're talking out of your ass`
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`04:30.59`	`Miles`	`lol. even if it knows what glyph it is, it still can't display it. Have fun on yahoo.com.hk for example without asian fonts installed`
`04:31.09`	`kergoth`	`what does a website have to do with terminals?`
`04:31.15`	`mjc`	`http://325i.org/unicode-terminal.png`
`04:31.19`	`mjc`	`shut the fuck up, thanks. :)`
`04:31.38`	`mjc`	`that's katakana`
`04:32.28`	`mjc`	`http://325i.org/unicode2.png`
`04:32.32`	`mjc`	`arabic`
`04:32.55`	`mjc`	`if I had a keyboard made for it I could type it right into the console`
`04:32.57`	`Miles`	`it kinda broke the monospace thing. I wonder how stuff will react`
`04:33.04`	`mjc`	`broke what monospace thing ?`
`04:33.07`	`mjc`	`that's a monospace font`
`04:33.16`	`sylvanaar`	`ok so what does scite do? i cant really tell anything special other than some wierd highlighting and a neat indent marking`
`04:33.43`	`mjc`	`sylvanaar: syntax highlighting, folding, etc. mostly basic shite`
`04:33.44`	`Miles`	`?`
`04:33.44`	`Kalamadi`	`sylvanaar: That's pretty much it :P`
`04:33.56`	`mjc`	`I only use it for little things`
`04:34.17`	`Kalamadi`	`I prefer it because it doesn't have the curve of emacs, but lots of essentials`
`04:34.22`	`sylvanaar`	`ok, yawn...needs project supoprt`
`04:34.36`	`Miles`	`project support? oO`
`04:34.47`	`Hjalte`	`is the author of silverdragon on here now?`
`04:35.39`	`Kalamadi`	`Oh, and a little off-topic question; is paladin's Improved Seal of Righteousness being modified to take effect after gear?`
`04:35.40`	`Miles`	`there is an addon for that, but I rather have eclipse linked to svn for that, +ant build script with luac`
`04:35.59`	`mjc`	`Kalamadi: no idea :)`
`04:36.17`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, projects are wheere you put all the files relevant to a task into a group, and they display in a list so you can access them rapidly`
`04:36.26`	`Kalamadi`	`I want a 73% of +bonus spell with another 15% on top >_<!`
`04:36.53`	`Kalamadi`	`I'll be, like. Whoosh! 700 non-crit JoR.`
`04:37.24`	`sylvanaar`	`i have been using EditPadPro because it has very nice regex support`
`04:37.48`	`kergoth`	`http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1291 - sweet, finally`
`04:38.47`	`mjc`	`kergoth: if you add a hack to addoncp & externalscp to svn revert after cp, it works :P btw`
`04:39.17`	`kergoth`	`hmm, why?`
`04:40.01`	`mjc`	`$Revision: $ issue`
`04:40.22`	`kergoth`	`ah, did he fix the issue where revert wasnt expanding keywords?`
`04:40.25`	`kergoth`	`er`
`04:40.29`	`kergoth`	`nm, revert will work, okay`
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`04:40.37`	`kergoth`	`it was ci that wasnt expanding`
`04:40.44`	`mjc`	`yeah.`
`04:41.03`	`sylvanaar`	`oh my eyes, vim's got 4 key shortcuts`
`04:41.03`	`Kalamadi`	`mjc: Which terminal do you use? I was reading the discussion, but didn't catch if you mentioned it.`
`04:41.50`	`sylvanaar`	`oh, lord its vi, i didnt know that`
`04:42.40`	`mjc`	`Kalamadi: OSX terminal, on and off. either that or plain ol xterm`
`04:42.46`	`mjc`	`depends on what I need`
`04:45.07`	`Kalamadi`	`Aye. I'm looking for something a little more photogenic (waves the Linux to desktop flag), but retains a light weight`
`04:45.12`	`kergoth`	`using a non-unicode terminal would suck, i havent done that in a long time. i show hard tabs as »·······, which obviously wouldnt work without it`
`04:45.47`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, vim has a poor interface, im sure its quite powerful, but the interface is just too 80's`
`04:46.07`	`kergoth`	`vim has an incredibly efficient interface, it just isnt easy to use`
`04:46.10`	`Kalamadi`	`I've had problems with scite saving the configuration changes I make`
`04:46.16`	`kergoth`	`sharp learning curve`
`04:46.28`	`mjc`	`http://www.sanctuary-guild.org/index.php/topic,1517.0.html`
`04:46.30`	`mjc`	`:D`
`04:47.40`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`04:48.20`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah im sure its efficient after you make it that way or spend a few weeks memorizing commands`
`04:50.02`	`sylvanaar`	`i used a mac to early in life i think`
`04:50.12`	`mjc`	`I use macs`
`04:50.12`	`mjc`	`:P`
`04:50.16`	`mjc`	`emacs took me a day or so to learn`
`04:50.17`	`sylvanaar`	`i dont anymore`
`04:50.33`	`sylvanaar`	`to learn what though`
`04:50.41`	`sylvanaar`	`how to do a few basic things?`
`04:50.57`	`sylvanaar`	`like edit/copy/paste/save/search/replace?`
`04:51.07`	`mjc`	`no those took me like 5 mnutes`
`04:51.39`	`sylvanaar`	`i guess im a visual biggot`
`04:51.40`	`mjc`	`found out how to bind them to cmd-v etc`
`04:51.52`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah, i did that too`
`04:51.57`	`mjc`	`search was already set to cmd-s`
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`04:52.06`	`Baps`	`I know enough vi to edit the Makefile and config.h so I can compile emacs. =)`
`04:52.15`	`Baps`	`which used to be more important 15 years ago`
`04:52.22`	`sylvanaar`	`except - that wehn you use an emacs someplace esle it doesnt work that way`
`04:52.40`	`mjc`	`sylvanaar: I just copy my .emacs*`
`04:53.24`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah - i know, but now sit down at someones desk and use thier editor`
`04:53.24`	`Miles`	`hmmz? I think I found a fully featured IDE for lua (incl 5.1)`
`04:53.33`	`mjc`	`sylvanaar: why would you do that ?`
`04:53.49`	`sylvanaar`	`because thats what you do when you work with other developers`
`04:54.06`	`sylvanaar`	`in a small office`
`04:54.09`	`Miles`	`http://luaedit.luaforge.net/ - Includes debugger (breakpoint, watch, all the good stuff from eclipse), projects and it even understands the semantics of the language`
`04:54.29`	`Miles`	`real auto complete and parameter suggestions`
`04:54.46`	`sylvanaar`	`crashex`
`04:55.03`	`sylvanaar`	`and various other f-ed up stuff`
`04:55.16`	`[Wobin]`	`oh man`
`04:55.25`	`[Wobin]`	`I'm getting booted when trying to trade dark iron ore =P`
`04:55.30`	`mjc`	`lol`
`04:55.35`	`[Wobin]`	`It's bizzare =P`
`04:56.16`	`sylvanaar`	`i think its another editor that they configured and repackaged. but its total junk`
`04:56.26`	`kergoth`	`hmm, getting crazy lag when i equip my offhand weapon, and teksupport doesnt seem to be spotting the cause :(`
`04:56.33`	`kergoth`	`anyone else seen that?`
`04:56.37`	`kergoth`	`equipping other stuff seems fine`
`04:56.41`	`mjc`	`poison mods`
`04:56.44`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`04:58.37`	`kergoth`	`not running any. even disabled elkbuffbar :\`
`05:01.27`	`mjc`	`process of elim then`
`05:02.31`	`Kalamadi`	`So... Given the pre-loading of the patch, when might we expect the patching to take place?`
`05:04.49`	`sylvanaar`	`tuesday`
`05:04.58`	`Kalamadi`	`Really? Before December? O_o;`
`05:05.01`	`sylvanaar`	`~pool`
`05:05.02`	`purl`	`well, pool is http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-project-9910/msg00052.html or http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-pools`
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`05:07.20`	`sylvanaar`	`i guess im stuck with editpadpro - i tried the latest luaedit even - it crashed within 2 minutes`
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`05:11.27`	`kergoth`	`grrr, this lag is annoying`
`05:11.33`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`05:14.50`	`Baps`	`I've been using jedit`
`05:16.31`	`kergoth`	`need a better selection mechanism for an in game addon enable/disable app, like a spreadsheet style table where you can select a bunch and -then- hit enable/disable`
`05:17.09`	`mjc`	`I like MCP it just needs a lil work like that`
`05:17.39`	`kergoth`	`i'd love to be able to enable/disable a selected block for doing a binary search for a problem like this`
`05:17.51`	`kergoth`	`click click click now the bottom half are disabled`
`05:17.52`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`05:17.54`	`mjc`	`I DON'T WANT HER, YOU CAN HAVE HER, SHE'S TOO FAT FOR ME!`
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`05:33.11`	`CIA-17`	`03lafiell * r18088 10FuBar_MCPFu/FuBar_MCPFu.lua: FuBar_MCPFu: Changed to AceLocale-2.2`
`05:33.13`	`sylvanaar`	`Kemayo: i totally agree, i have been saying that`
`05:33.24`	`sylvanaar`	`Kemayo = kergoth`
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`05:34.35`	`sylvanaar`	`The addons themselves need a tag in their toc files - #X-PartOf`
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`05:34.40`	`sylvanaar`	`or something`
`05:35.07`	`kergoth`	`fyi, it wa lern2count causing a large portion of the lag i was seeing when equipping, jerry's branch of it`
`05:35.10`	`kergoth`	`s/wa/was/`
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`05:37.29`	`CIA-17`	`03lafiell * r18089 10FuBar_MCPFu/ (. MCPFuLocals.lua):`
`05:37.29`	`CIA-17`	`.Fubar_MCPFu:`
`05:37.29`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed to AceLocale-2.2`
`05:37.29`	`CIA-17`	`- Added external to AceLocale-2.2`
`05:37.38`	`sylvanaar`	`is that new?`
`05:39.29`	`kergoth`	`hmm, mcpfu?`
`05:39.29`	`mjc`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=FLn45-7Pn2Y`
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`05:39.35`	`sylvanaar`	`yeah`
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`05:39.44`	`kergoth`	`sounds interesting`
`05:39.47`	`mjc`	`it's just a MCP list`
`05:39.53`	`kergoth`	`vBagnon is pretty slick`
`05:39.55`	`kergoth`	`http://kergoth.com/images/wow_072.jpg :)`
`05:40.00`	`kornelius`	`morning all :)`
`05:40.21`	`CIA-17`	`03lafiell * r18090 10FuBar_MCPFu/:`
`05:40.21`	`CIA-17`	`.Fubar_MCPFu:`
`05:40.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed External from dev.wowace.com to svn.wowace.com`
`05:40.36`	`sylvanaar`	`meh - i am tempted to just edit MCP`
`05:40.40`	`mjc`	`kergoth: interesting`
`05:41.33`	`kergoth`	`mjc, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6306`
`05:41.37`	`mjc`	`it's not on svn though`
`05:41.52`	`sylvanaar`	`all i want is to have it refer to a group of addons as a single unit`
`05:41.56`	`CIA-17`	`03lafiell * r18091 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/ (. SWStatsFu.lua SWStatsFuLocals.lua):`
`05:41.56`	`CIA-17`	`.FuBar_SWStatsFu:`
`05:41.56`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed to AceLocale-2.2`
`05:41.56`	`CIA-17`	`- Added external to AceLocale-2.2`
`05:42.00`	`Goeb`	`where'd ya get vbagnon from kerg?`
`05:42.15`	`Baps`	`moof`
`05:42.19`	`kergoth`	`i just linked it`
`05:42.26`	`sylvanaar`	`because people irresponsibly put spam in the addon directory and expect others to maintain it`
`05:42.30`	`kornelius`	`Guys . is there anyone here to bug about Ag_uf abit ? :)`
`05:42.35`	`Goeb`	`yeah ignore me, I'm blind ;)`
`05:42.38`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`05:42.39`	`Kemayo`	`Ckknight: I crashed someone's game by sending them a note with Cartographer.`
`05:42.45`	`mjc`	`guess I'll have to backport it too`
`05:43.23`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: Also, when trying to share a note with the party: Modules\Notes.lua:1205: attempt to compare number with boolean`
`05:45.21`	`sylvanaar`	`so the MCP guy quit wow`
`05:45.55`	`Goeb`	`damn, vbagnon's TBC only... gonna be unfun to backport it`
`05:46.06`	`sylvanaar`	`why waste your time`
`05:46.13`	`Goeb`	`not planning on it:)`
`05:46.18`	`Baps`	`2.01 will be here soon enough`
`05:46.24`	`Goeb`	`yeah, couple weeks prolly`
`05:46.32`	`sylvanaar`	`~impending`
`05:46.44`	`sylvanaar`	`hah confounded`
`05:47.28`	`sylvanaar`	`~seen lafiell`
`05:47.46`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'lafiell', sylvanaar`
`05:47.46`	`mjc`	`how do I backport the ... stuff ?`
`05:47.58`	`sylvanaar`	`purl: hide in shame`
`05:48.00`	`purl`	`ACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers in shame with it so that nobody can see what in shame is doing!`
`05:49.33`	`mjc`	`haha`
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`05:52.04`	`mjc`	`blah`
`05:52.20`	`mjc`	`how do I backport the varargs notation ?`
`05:52.54`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r18092 10MCP/ (6 files in 2 dirs): MCP: initial import - author quit - maybe a good base for managing 'sets' of addons`
`05:53.12`	`sylvanaar`	`args`
`05:54.06`	`mjc`	`ah`
`05:55.07`	`kergoth`	`mjc, lua 5.0 takes ... and automatically creates an 'arg' table out of it on each call. thats why it causes so much gc churn`
`05:55.37`	`mjc`	`it doesn't like ... at all in function Bagnon_And(...) , though`
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`07:19.36`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18093 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer (Notes): Fix 1205 compare number to boolean.`
`07:20.50`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: You around?`
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`07:58.11`	`*** topic/#wowace by Industrial -> foo`
`07:58.13`	`Industrial`	`http://www.torrentz.com/torrent_801258.html`
`07:59.08`	`*** topic/#wowace by Industrial -> Welcome to #wowace \| Wow guides torrent: http://tinyurl.com/ycamcf`
`08:01.29`	`DrDre`	`lol..`
`08:01.55`	`Industrial`	`no topic ill atleast provide something that might be useful`
`08:02.14`	`Industrial`	`checking it out now to see if its bullcrap or not :>`
`08:03.13`	`DrDre`	`how would i modify Angler to allow double clicking to recast fishing line if lines already out? (for personal use not release)`
`08:03.21`	`DrDre`	`i looked at the code but i really cant tell :(`
`08:03.44`	`DrDre`	`i need to learn this shit >< i dun want to use fishingbuddy jus for easycasting`
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`08:06.50`	`Industrial`	`choose dark elves as your race`
`08:07.04`	`Industrial`	`have a "toon" sitting in your auction house town (eg iron forge for alliance)`
`08:07.06`	`Industrial`	`ok its crap`
`08:07.09`	`*** topic/#wowace by Industrial -> foo`
`08:07.59`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`08:08.03`	`DrDre`	`alot of them deal with warping hacks`
`08:08.04`	`Industrial`	`damnit cant find some decent guides without someone trying to exploit them and asking for money`
`08:08.18`	`Cartas`	`I know a good way to get gold, Industrial, old chap!`
`08:08.25`	`Industrial`	`i dont want gold, really`
`08:08.27`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`08:08.30`	`Industrial`	`well maybe later`
`08:08.33`	`Cartas`	`It begins with an 'f', ends in a 'g', and has 'armin' in the middle.`
`08:08.35`	`Cartas`	`:O`
`08:08.51`	`Industrial`	`I can make plenty of gold by AH resale`
`08:08.59`	`Cartas`	`I know...`
`08:10.03`	`Industrial`	`main: herbalism, skinning + green items --> alt: enchanting, alchemy --> main/ah`
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`08:14.24`	`Gremi`	`Does anyone know if there is a way to iterate through all instances of an object in AceOO ?`
`08:23.22`	`DrDre`	`kergoth: you around?`
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`08:36.56`	`sylvanaar`	`Gremi: that sounds like a job for whoever is creating the objects`
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`09:12.35`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all`
`09:12.55`	`Cartas`	`Hi old chap.`
`09:17.05`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`is anyone else using oCB on tbc and getting errors whenever a warlock casts a spell near you?`
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`09:23.40`	`*** topic/#wowace by Fisker -> http://www.wowace.com \| http://svn.wowace.com \| http://www.wowace.com/files \| http://ace.pastey.net \| http://www.wowace.com/trac \| http://www.lua.org \| http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons \| All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 \| Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H)`
`09:23.48`	`Fisker`	`i got an idea`
`09:23.57`	`Fisker`	`/mode #wowace +t`
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`09:48.20`	`DrDre`	`is Henge almost ready?`
`09:51.40`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone here that knows dagar ?`
`09:51.51`	`sylvanaar`	`anyone can suggest a xml based frame sample that has a tree like organization?`
`09:52.34`	`sylvanaar`	`something that doesnt use ace`
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`10:03.34`	`Fisker`	`Anyone here know C# and arraylists?`
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`10:05.58`	`CIA-17`	`03cwdg * r18095 10Manufac/ (Manufac-zhCN.lua Manufac.toc): Manufac:local for zhCN`
`10:10.21`	`sylvanaar`	`Fisker: whats to know`
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`10:18.04`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18096 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Was referring to a variable by two names. Change that.`
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`10:19.52`	`Kemayo`	`Darn tenses.`
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`10:26.05`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar * r18097 10/branches/myAddons/ (9 files in 3 dirs): myAddons: experimenting with using this as a base mod manager`
`10:27.24`	`CIA-17`	`03wobin * r18098 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Removed debugging`
`10:28.35`	`Fisker`	`MoonWolf`
`10:28.36`	`Fisker`	`:o`
`10:28.46`	`MoonWolf`	`?`
`10:28.52`	`Fisker`	`/mode #wowace +t :)`
`10:28.55`	`Fisker`	`someone removed it`
`10:28.57`	`*** mode/#wowace [+t] by MoonWolf`
`10:29.23`	`MoonWolf`	`I have no idea what y ou are talking about :O`
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`10:31.22`	`Neebler`	`+t means only operators may set the topic`
`10:32.12`	`MoonWolf`	`neebler, i know i know`
`10:32.28`	`MoonWolf`	`actually, half ops may set it aswell.`
`10:33.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`and why is +s set?`
`10:33.39`	`Wobin`	`cuz we is sekrit`
`10:33.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`kz`
`10:38.34`	`Fisker`	`yeah`
`10:38.44`	`Fisker`	`no crackas are gonna find us out`
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`10:44.00`	`FtH\|eagle`	`hi`
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`10:57.59`	`Kalamadi`	`Wow. The PTR is loading very, very slowly. O_o;`
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`11:32.04`	`zoktar`	`anyone know a good auto oom auto "healme" etc ?`
`11:36.35`	`CIA-17`	`03schelli * r18100 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/ (. DebuggerFuLocals.lua FuBar_DebuggerFu.lua): FuBar_DebuggerFu : updated to acelocale 2.2`
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`11:53.53`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: oh nice addon, SilverDragon`
`11:59.50`	`Nickenyfiken`	`what addon?`
`12:01.39`	`Mikma`	`SilverDragon`
`12:03.37`	`Nickenyfiken`	`aha`
`12:03.39`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hmm`
`12:14.18`	`Nickenyfiken`	`bah im sor pissed, get gold selling spam on my realm all the time`
`12:14.27`	`anenigma`	`same here`
`12:14.35`	`anenigma`	`i wish i could ignore all level 1 NE warriors`
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`12:17.29`	`Nickenyfiken`	`mmm`
`12:17.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`is there a good mod to filter that spam?`
`12:17.44`	`Fritti`	`I feel an addon coming up :)`
`12:18.05`	`Fritti`	`call it 1984`
`12:18.07`	`Mikma`	`why ne warriors?`
`12:18.26`	`groll`	`Nickenyfiken check curse spamsentry`
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`12:20.39`	`anenigma`	`Mikma: all the gold sellers I see (by sellers, i mean spammers) are level 1 NE warriors in teldrassil`
`12:21.22`	`CIA-17`	`03miyu * r18102 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: (Babble-Spell-2.2) The zhTW translation all broken, fixed.`
`12:22.16`	`Mikma`	`right, at our server they are gnomes in if`
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`12:25.29`	`Nickenyfiken`	`groll: thanks`
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`12:34.07`	`sylvanaar`	`man myAddons doesnt even work - it had a bug`
`12:35.41`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: Thanks. :)`
`12:36.13`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: i've seen some around but not so simple/small as you made`
`12:37.04`	`Kemayo`	`I was using Raretracker, but I looked at it and thought "wait, this doesn't need to be 150kB of code..."`
`12:37.49`	`Zicon`	`kemayo: So now you're going to make a better replacement? crosses fingers`
`12:38.07`	`Kemayo`	`Zicon: I did. It's called SilverDragon, and is in SVN.`
`12:38.13`	`Zicon`	`Oooooh.`
`12:38.24`	`Kemayo`	`Thought it doesn't do everything Raretracker does yet. No world map integration option.`
`12:39.16`	`Zicon`	`Pff. The world map integration never worked, anyway. Not for me, at least.`
`12:39.29`	`Kemayo`	`I should also add the option from Raretracker to scan the nearby area for rares. That was always helpful.`
`12:39.36`	`Kemayo`	`...and a default database.`
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`12:43.13`	`Fisker`	`is there any mass mail addons for tbc yet?`
`12:43.43`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: that's the way to make it larger but not 150kb ;)`
`12:44.21`	`Kemayo`	`Some increases are worthwhile. :)`
`12:44.34`	`Kemayo`	`And I have a waaaaay more efficient DB format than Raretracker, so...`
`12:45.30`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
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`13:07.13`	`CIA-17`	`03curney 07TBC * r18104 10Prat/Prat/modules/UrlCopy.lua: Prat: oops missed a fix in UrlCopy.lua`
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`13:22.18`	`sbu`	`uhm Kemayo`
`13:22.27`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r18105 10myAddons/myAddons/ (. Localization.lua myAddOnsFrame.lua): myAddons: first pass - it at least works vs the released version. Made it compatible with common Ace categories + made a FuBar Plugin category`
`13:22.38`	`Kemayo`	`Yes, sbu?`
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`13:23.23`	`sbu`	`Kemayo: some suggestions ;o (silverdragon) remember seen/kill time (some rares spawn after x hours/...) and display them as cartographer notes :o`
`13:24.32`	`Kemayo`	`Cartographer notes I'm not sure how to do. Last seen, however, is doable.`
`13:24.45`	`sbu`	`(feralas arena respawn-timer isnt that variable)`
`13:24.47`	`sbu`	`uhm`
`13:25.24`	`CIA-17`	`03curney 07TBC * r18106 10Prat/Prat/modules/ (TellTarget.lua Timestamps.lua):`
`13:25.24`	`CIA-17`	`Prat:`
`13:25.24`	`CIA-17`	`- TellTarget.lua: fixed hooking call`
`13:25.24`	`CIA-17`	`- Timestamps.lua: fixed hooking call and unpack arg thingy`
`13:28.13`	`Kirkburn`	`Omg, TBC Prat?!`
`13:29.27`	`Kirkburn`	`Yay! =)`
`13:30.07`	`Kirkburn`	`That's odd, CIA-17 missed out the main Prat update, 18103`
`13:31.31`	`CIA-17`	`03curney 07TBC * r18107 10Prat/Prat/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: got all the back unpacks this time i swear!`
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`14:09.04`	`Mikma`	`i like sex. is niiiice!`
`14:09.20`	`Elkano`	`Kemayo, SilverDragon will be a RareTracker replacement, wont it? Based on its code/data or 100% recode?`
`14:09.59`	`Mikma`	`Elkano: afaik 100% recode`
`14:11.59`	`sbu`	`Mikma: uhm`
`14:12.14`	`sbu`	`ack! :p`
`14:13.15`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`mikma did you get my pm?`
`14:14.11`	`Mikma`	`[FH]Birdemani: yeah but i didn't understand it`
`14:14.24`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`i think i saw you last touch it`
`14:14.32`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`14:14.39`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`but !!!libs is asking me for a password when i try to access it from svn.wowace.com`
`14:14.45`	`Mikma`	`i've been "updating" it sicne noone other is`
`14:14.55`	`Mikma`	`it shouldn't ask any passwords with svn`
`14:15.04`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`it copies the files in the !!!libs folder, but when it goes out to get the lib folders it asks for a password`
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`14:15.52`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`i know it shouldnt, but it is`
`14:15.54`	`Mikma`	`AKX: hi`
`14:16.00`	`AKX`	`Yo`
`14:16.09`	`Mikma`	`[FH]Birdemani: TBC or vanilla?`
`14:16.14`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`tbc`
`14:17.00`	`Mikma`	`oh yeah, you need dev. access with TBC !!!Libs :P`
`14:17.05`	`Mikma`	`since it gets Ace2 TBC`
`14:17.08`	`CIA-17`	`03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r18108 10myAddons/myAddons/myAddOnsFrame.lua:`
`14:17.08`	`CIA-17`	`myAddons: added support for TOC metatag X-PartOf, which when specified causes`
`14:17.08`	`CIA-17`	`the addon to be hidden, and a note placed in the parent addon's note field.`
`14:17.08`	`CIA-17`	`Meant to remove all the LOD addon spam and let you enable/disable a mod as a`
`14:17.08`	`CIA-17`	`single entity.`
`14:17.11`	`Mikma`	`oh wait wtf`
`14:17.16`	`Mikma`	`my bad wrong url`
`14:18.16`	`Mikma`	`you don't need the dev. for Ace2 TBC :P fixing`
`14:18.31`	`CIA-17`	`03mikma 07TBC * r18109 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs/: !!!Libs: yeah, dev. -> svn.`
`14:18.35`	`phyber`	`~seen kodewulf`
`14:18.55`	`purl`	`kodewulf <n=Kodewulf@220-253-16-250.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15m 33s ago, saying: '[FH]Birdemani, see what happens if you don't have your priorities straight... wow, then life... lol'.`
`14:18.55`	`Mikma`	`[FH]Birdemani: should work now.`
`14:19.55`	`AKX`	`Mikma, still get the language problem with DC?`
`14:20.10`	`Mikma`	`AKX: haven't tested actually, have you "fixed" it lately?`
`14:20.20`	`AKX`	`I did commit something to prevent it, I think :D`
`14:20.37`	`Mikma`	`mehe. haven't been in TBC for a while`
`14:20.51`	`Mikma`	`got into new hc-raiding guild on Nordrassil and I must say I'm extremely happy`
`14:21.01`	`Mikma`	`middleage there is 29`
`14:21.24`	`AKX`	`WRYY`
`14:23.23`	`AKX`	`Gruh`
`14:23.32`	`AKX`	`How can I _always_ ignore externals in Tortoise?`
`14:23.51`	`yacoob`	`Mikma, noone has time for anything? :D`
`14:24.03`	`AKX`	`Hay yacoob.`
`14:24.13`	`yacoob`	`why, hello there :)`
`14:24.19`	`Mikma`	`yacoob: well, c'thun second phase 69% best attempt`
`14:24.57`	`yacoob`	`ah, btw... anyone knows anything about this instance scalling blizz was said to introduce?`
`14:25.03`	`yacoob`	`does thing like that happen on ptr?`
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`14:25.59`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`no, beta only`
`14:26.07`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`you can turn any of the new 5 mans into heroic mode`
`14:26.19`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`which makes everything a level 70 elite roughly`
`14:26.28`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`so even the hellfire stuff is hard`
`14:26.36`	`axxo`	`and it drops epix?`
`14:26.38`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18110 10SilverDragon/ (Core.lua Locals.enUS.lua): SilverDragon: Add scanning of nearby units, announcing of rare spotting. Options to toggle same.`
`14:26.39`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`then when you kill the bosses you get a new token`
`14:26.47`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`you collect the tokens to buy epics from a vendor`
`14:26.54`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`eveyrone gets a token in the party`
`14:27.09`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`epics start around 25 tokens, 2-3 bosses per dungeon`
`14:27.35`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`you need to be revered with each faction to get access to the key as well`
`14:27.55`	`yacoob`	`[FH]Birdemani, but the old instances?`
`14:28.04`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`revered isnt that hard, im nearly honored with everything at 68 already`
`14:28.11`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`no, nothing in the old zones....yet`
`14:28.11`	`yacoob`	`Someone was saying stuff like, if you go with lvl 60 to deadmines, you'll be suprised :)`
`14:28.14`	`yacoob`	`mhm`
`14:28.14`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`maybe down the line`
`14:28.29`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`the heroic mode is a newly balanced dungeon`
`14:28.37`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`new spells, abilities, strats, etc`
`14:28.53`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`you cant just up deadmines to 70 without reworking it`
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`14:29.25`	`Mikma`	`what about loots?`
`14:29.49`	`yacoob`	`[FH]Birdemani, well, of course, but I wonder whether we'll find this in TBC :)`
`14:29.59`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`we wont`
`14:30.03`	`yacoob`	`aw.`
`14:30.12`	`yacoob`	`not enough bang for a buck!`
`14:30.39`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`tigole said its something they may revist down the line...they dont even know if they need to tune MC/BWL/AQ/Naxx again so they cant be exploited`
`14:31.43`	`AKX`	`So.. uh, how can I prevent TortoiseSVN from updating externals on SVN Update?`
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`14:32.03`	`Mikma`	`AKX: command prompt <3`
`14:32.07`	`Mikma`	`svn update --ignore-externals *`
`14:32.08`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`14:32.13`	`AKX`	`no dice.`
`14:32.40`	`Kemayo`	`You'll need to install svn binaries as well for that to work.`
`14:32.59`	`Mikma`	`but, command prompt > others`
`14:33.02`	`AKX`	`I want to use Tortoise, that's the point`
`14:33.47`	`Kemayo`	`As far as I know there's no way to make Tortoise respect that.`
`14:34.07`	`AKX`	`On initial checkout there is the checkbox..`
`14:34.14`	`Kemayo`	`Yup.`
`14:34.33`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`http://ace.pastey.net/2758 ::I'm getting spammed with this error on TBC with oCB`
`14:36.04`	`AKX`	`Ah, there we go Kemayo`
`14:36.14`	`AKX`	`You have to use the "Update to Revision" command in the submenu`
`14:36.27`	`AKX`	`Then just leave it at head rev`
`14:36.28`	`sbu`	`hmm ETA for gatherer import plugin (cartographer)? :)`
`14:38.48`	`Mikma`	`sbu: done`
`14:39.11`	`sbu`	`Mikma: huh? where? :)`
`14:39.42`	`Mikma`	`sbu: Cartographer_Mining and Cartographer_Herbalism`
`14:40.41`	`sbu`	`uhm no - you cant import gatherer database yet?`
`14:41.05`	`Mikma`	`nope`
`14:41.15`	`Mikma`	`oh yeah, import heh didn't see that`
`14:41.22`	`Mikma`	`make one`
`14:41.23`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`14:43.06`	`Fisker`	`any massmail addons for tbc?`
`14:43.44`	`yacoob`	`gatherer was one of the most useless addons for me`
`14:44.19`	`yacoob`	`swallowed a ton of memory, didn't really helped in mining/herbing, because I was either looking for herb/ore which I know where it was, or was just picking/mining them along as I go`
`14:44.49`	`Mikma`	`well same`
`14:44.54`	`Mikma`	`i never used it`
`14:45.20`	`yacoob`	`I guess it's good for information freaks :)`
`14:45.22`	`AKX`	`Fisker, I guess CT_MailMod would work with a few hooking modifications`
`14:45.32`	`Mikma`	`GMail?`
`14:46.52`	`Fisker`	`same bug with both addons i think`
`14:47.02`	`Fisker`	`you can't actually use the massmail function`
`14:47.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Awesome, Prat works :) Me is happy-happy-joy-joy`
`14:47.47`	`Kirkburn`	`My UI is complete =)`
`14:47.51`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`ctmail is the only mass mail i have found`
`14:48.23`	`Fisker`	`doesn't work with the newest build though`
`14:48.32`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`yes it does, the one i have`
`14:48.39`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`got it from the epoxy compilation`
`14:48.43`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`on wowi`
`14:48.43`	`Fisker`	`well the one on wowinterface.com doesn't :)`
`14:48.51`	`Fisker`	`ok gonna try that one out`
`14:48.52`	`Fisker`	`thanks :P`
`14:48.52`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`used mine today`
`14:49.46`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`why does fubar change on tbc after each logout?`
`14:51.08`	`Kirkburn`	`In what way?`
`14:51.29`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`hold on, i think by updating my libs it fixed it`
`14:51.48`	`Mikma`	`haste: http://sts.emdia.fi/elamanohje.jpg`
`14:52.46`	`Tekkub`	`BulkMail too :P`
`14:52.49`	`Kirkburn`	`o.O`
`14:52.52`	`DrZoot`	`omg, why did i click on that`
`14:53.19`	`Mikma`	`because you thought you can handle same things haste can`
`14:53.41`	`Fisker`	`i like eating poop`
`14:54.02`	`DrZoot`	`this is starting to look like my regular guild chat`
`14:55.06`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r18111 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable - Adding in crappy gnome mount`
`14:55.27`	`Mikma`	`~whalestab Tekkub`
`14:55.32`	`purl`	`ACTION stabs Tekkub with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery`
`14:55.32`	`yacoob`	`DrZoot, this is a sign wow takes up too much of your life 8)`
`14:55.32`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r18112 10PeriodicTable-2.0/PeriodicTable-Misc-2.0/PeriodicTable-Misc-2.0.lua: PeriodicTable-2.0 - Fucking gnomes`
`14:55.37`	`DrZoot`	`lol`
`14:56.01`	`Fisker`	`gnome mounts are cool :(`
`14:58.33`	`haste`	`Mikma: haha`
`14:58.59`	`Mikma`	`haste: <3`
`14:59.07`	`Mikma`	`AKX: you akx!`
`14:59.34`	`Mikma`	`AKX: messaging.lua:100: 'string.gfind' was renamed to 'string.gmatch'`
`15:00.16`	`AKX`	`Eh?`
`15:00.33`	`AKX`	`You'se using an old version.`
`15:00.38`	`Mikma`	`yes, it's gmatch in TBC`
`15:00.42`	`AKX`	`messaging.lua:1 -> local gfind=string.gfind or string.gmatch;`
`15:00.43`	`Mikma`	`not gfind :)`
`15:00.51`	`AKX`	`messaging.lua:100 -> for s in gfind(v.slash,"(%w+)") do`
`15:01.14`	`AKX`	`... is string.gfind actually nil anyway?`
`15:01.31`	`AKX`	`bah`
`15:01.32`	`Mikma`	`well i got that error after update`
`15:01.39`	`AKX`	`local gfind=string.gmatch or string.gfind; then :P`
`15:01.41`	`Mikma`	`when i changed it to gmatch it works withjout errors`
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`15:02.10`	`AKX`	`Well string.gmatch = nil in 1.12, yeah?`
`15:02.16`	`Mikma`	`dunno`
`15:02.22`	`Mikma`	`i'm testing it with TBC`
`15:03.02`	`CIA-17`	`03akx 07Nevcairiel * r18113 10DreamChat/DreamChat/Messaging.lua: DreamChat: (Dry) gfind, gmatch...`
`15:03.07`	`AKX`	`Try that.`
`15:03.58`	`Mikma`	`works`
`15:04.12`	`AKX`	`Okies.`
`15:04.23`	`Mikma`	`but one problem still exists`
`15:04.27`	`Mikma`	`the frame jumps on screen`
`15:04.56`	`AKX`	`Yeah, I think I know what causes it, but can't be arsed to fix it. :)`
`15:05.02`	`AKX`	`It's in the todos though`
`15:05.05`	`Mikma`	`aww`
`15:05.15`	`Mikma`	`well it needs 2 options anyway`
`15:05.21`	`Mikma`	`1. hide chatframe1`
`15:05.29`	`Mikma`	`2. dock editbox top/bottom/undocked`
`15:11.48`	`Iceroth`	`would anyone be kind enough to post a suggestion to US ui forums for 2 functions: GetDruidMana() and GetDruidMaxMana() ?`
`15:12.08`	`Iceroth`	`can't believe they haven't implemented that yet`
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`15:42.10`	`Hjalte`	`Is there a way i can check if a registered nickname has not been used for at least 60 days? I'm talking about irc now, not wow is anyone is wondering :)`
`15:42.28`	`Miles`	`find an admin`
`15:48.59`	`sylvanaar`	`what are the rules that the zip script uses to generate branch zips`
`15:54.58`	`haste`	`Can't you do like: /msg nickserv info nick ?`
`15:55.17`	`Hjalte`	`Uh, i could`
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`16:09.36`	`haste`	`H�llo`
`16:09.40`	`AKX`	`Mikma, coding the editbox attachment thingy`
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`16:16.47`	`CIA-17`	`03curney 07Gandharva * r18114 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua:`
`16:16.47`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_Herbalism:`
`16:16.47`	`CIA-17`	`- Terocone was misspelled.`
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`16:28.23`	`Mikma`	`hi all`
`16:28.32`	`Gngsk`	`hi`
`16:31.02`	`Mikma`	`AKX: good.`
`16:31.12`	`AKX`	`'cept it isn't working. :D`
`16:31.43`	`Mikma`	`how come?`
`16:31.57`	`AKX`	`Not quite sure`
`16:32.03`	`AKX`	`Some problems with the attachment magic`
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`16:33.37`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`server -m warcraft.wowirc.com`
`16:33.40`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`oops`
`16:35.58`	`CIA-17`	`03curney 07TBC * r18115 10Prat/Prat/modules/ChannelColorMemory.lua: Prat: found another interface20000 issue to squish. oops.`
`16:36.04`	`Mikma`	`AKX: what kind of problems? i can help you :P`
`16:36.21`	`Mikma`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:36.26`	`Mikma`	`there you go :P`
`16:37.10`	`Saroz`	`Elkano, any plans on making EBB use aceoptions?`
`16:37.35`	`Elkano`	`sure`
`16:37.52`	`Elkano`	`ebb2 will`
`16:38.31`	`Saroz`	`nice`
`16:38.46`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`does ebb work again on tbc?`
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`16:42.09`	`AKX`	`I hate off-by-one errors ^^`
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`16:48.40`	`Mikma`	`AKX: so my lines didn't help?`
`16:48.57`	`AKX`	`Hah, no. I'm doing slightly more arcane stuff :)`
`16:49.10`	`Mikma`	`:D`
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`16:58.41`	`Cray`	`anyone know of a mod that automatically says yes to that silly "Do you want to replace "blah" with "blah" message" when enchanting?`
`16:59.03`	`Saroz`	`blizzard mod`
`16:59.46`	`AKX`	`Cray, so HOW often do you re-enchant stuff?`
`16:59.58`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`alot while leveling`
`17:00.08`	`Cray`	`well i just wan it while leveling it :)`
`17:01.18`	`CIA-17`	`03akx 07Nevcairiel * r18116 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (DreamChat_FrameClass.lua EditBox.lua Messaging.lua): DreamChat: Positionable editbox. Should work. ;) Added a previously forgotten language: Troll.`
`17:01.33`	`Cray`	`trolls are useless anyways ;)`
`17:01.36`	`Tain`	`I don't think I've ever had a piece of equipment long enough while levelling to replace an enchantment. Maybe post 60?`
`17:02.04`	`axxo`	`leveling enchanting i guess`
`17:02.34`	`Tain`	`Oh! That makes more sense. :)`
`17:02.35`	`Cray`	`i haven't had a piece long enough to bother putting an enchant on it...`
`17:02.37`	`Tain`	`Yeah mostly Cray, but I let people put enchants on stuff when they offer for free.`
`17:02.52`	`Tain`	`I've never gone actively looking for one, but just spending time in towns you get a lot of enchants if you want.`
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`17:03.37`	`AKX`	`Mikma!`
`17:03.49`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Gatekeeper_Gyro-Kill`
`17:03.53`	`Tekkub`	`useful info there!`
`17:04.02`	`Mikma`	`AKX: yeah i saw :)`
`17:04.08`	`AKX`	`^^`
`17:04.55`	`Mikma`	`AKX: Updated to revision 18116.`
`17:04.56`	`Cray`	`lol`
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`17:04.56`	`Cray`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:04.56`	`Cray`	`He enrages and becomes big and red.`
`17:05.05`	`Cray`	`that's so useful`
`17:05.15`	`AKX`	`Mikma, good luck ^^`
`17:05.34`	`Mikma`	`boom`
`17:06.37`	`AKX`	`Mikma - Work? No work? Insane?`
`17:07.45`	`Mikma`	`AKX: EditBox.lua:425: bad argument #1 to 'upper' (string expected, got no value)`
`17:09.37`	`AKX`	`CIA-17, please?`
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`17:09.42`	`CIA-17`	`03akx 07Nevcairiel * r18117 10DreamChat/DreamChat/EditBox.lua: DreamChat: Languages, languages, languages`
`17:09.45`	`AKX`	`Thank you`
`17:10.02`	`Mikma`	`CIA-17: reminder, you work for US`
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`17:14.39`	ag`	`my harddrive fried`
`17:14.51`	`Mikma`	`did you lose alot of porn?`
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`17:14.57`	ag`	`no`
`17:15.02`	ag`	`it's not on that computer`
`17:15.07`	`Mikma`	`good`
`17:15.10`	ag`	`yeah`
`17:15.16`	ag`	`but it still sucks`
`17:15.24`	`Mikma`	`yeah it always does`
`17:15.25`	ag`	`now I am using an old noisy deathstar in it`
`17:15.35`	`Mikma`	`did you heard that my mac's hdd died too months ago`
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`17:16.03`	`Mikma`	`well, i got a bigger one then, 40gb -> 60gb, and the repairbill was 200e :(`
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`17:16.53`	ag`	`sucks`
`17:17.21`	`yacoob`	`doh`
`17:17.27`	`yacoob`	`you get your data back at least?`
`17:17.57`	ag`	`you never get your data back`
`17:18.06`	ag`	`unless you pay huge sums of money`
`17:18.23`	`yacoob`	`I know, I want to mock apple, shh 8)`
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`17:18.37`	ag`	`uh`
`17:18.44`	ag`	`it's the same with everything`
`17:18.48`	ag`	`I just had my hdd die`
`17:18.53`	`yacoob`	`I know, you took the fun away :(`
`17:18.57`	`yacoob`	`but, anyway`
`17:19.00`	`yacoob`	`losing data = bad`
`17:19.00`	ag`	`I can get a free replacement, but I'm still not getting my data`
`17:19.03`	`yacoob`	`having backup = good`
`17:19.12`	`yacoob`	`and water boils in 100C in standard pressure.`
`17:19.25`	ag`	`I don't need anything from it :P`
`17:19.32`	ag`	`there was nothing important on it`
`17:19.48`	`yacoob`	`there's no such thing as 'unimportant data' :)`
`17:19.56`	`yacoob`	`it's either data or garbage :D`
`17:20.03`	`yacoob`	`(and one man's data is another man garbage :)`
`17:20.22`	ag`	`o_O`
`17:20.49`	`yacoob`	ag`, I saw an ad, some institute was selling CDs with random numbers
`17:20.56`	`yacoob`	`they had guarantee of being truly random!`
`17:21.01`	`yacoob`	`how absurd is that? :D`
`17:21.04`	`yacoob`	`(for us)`
`17:21.09`	ag`	`not sure`
`17:21.23`	ag`	`why would you buy a cd full of random numbers?`
`17:21.38`	`axxo`	`that can be quite usefull`
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`17:22.05`	`yacoob`	`if you need truly random data for... well... for one of those strange things you need truly random data for.`
`17:22.58`	`Cray`	`i sure as hell wouldn't read it from a cd though...`
`17:23.22`	`yacoob`	`where would you get it instead? :)`
`17:24.07`	`AKX`	`yacoob - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_random_number_generator`
`17:24.09`	`axxo`	`teh intraweb`
`17:25.05`	`yacoob`	`AKX, but you need to have that. And if you don't there's this shiny cd, which is only 29,99$ + shipping :D`
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`17:35.20`	`odt`	`why not download some random numbers generated with that hardware device instead?`
`17:35.26`	`odt`	`:D`
`17:37.01`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: wake up`
`17:42.58`	`Iceroth`	`so umh.. what's the difference between PinPoint and Cartographer_Herbalism?`
`17:43.08`	`[Ammo]`	`pinpoint is obsolete`
`17:43.11`	`[Ammo]`	`delete it`
`17:43.14`	`[Ammo]`	`and use the carto module`
`17:43.30`	`[Ammo]`	`the 2 carto modules are based of pinpoint`
`17:43.34`	`Iceroth`	`any nice way of converting the locations from pinpoint?`
`17:43.41`	`[Ammo]`	`probably`
`17:44.32`	`kergoth`	`i have a little script for it, theres nothing to it. less work than converting from gatherer`
`17:44.34`	`Mikma`	`AKX: EditBox.lua:425: bad argument #1 to 'upper' (string expected, got no value)`
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`17:57.36`	`Mikma`	`we need an Ace2 'UI builder'`
`17:57.53`	`AKX`	`Would be neat.`
`17:57.55`	`Mikma`	`Visor perhaps? :P`
`17:58.16`	`kergoth`	`someone did an ace2 visor`
`17:58.17`	`Mikma`	`i hate the thing that i have to contruct my ui everytime i start a new char`
`17:58.19`	`kergoth`	`dunno how it is, but..`
`17:58.53`	`Mikma`	`some addon that remembers positions and restores them at login would rock`
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`17:59.29`	`Mikma`	`and that you could actually use the addon to force windows/frames to move into exact positions`
`18:03.04`	Funkeh`	`hey folks`
`18:03.21`	ag`	`I don't really see which frames you need to move`
`18:03.28`	ag`	`bars? you use a replacement addon`
`18:03.35`	ag`	`minimap? samething`
`18:03.44`	ag`	`unit frames? replacement again`
`18:03.48`	ag`	`etc etc`
`18:04.11`	`Tain`	`There are plenty of frames people like to move.`
`18:04.49`	`Mikma`	ag`: well i would like to have an addon that remembers my layout and i can use the same layout for other chars i play
`18:04.56`	`Mikma`	`so that i don't have to do the layouts over and over`
`18:06.58`	ag`	`I've never had to move a frame that I didn't have an addon for :(`
`18:07.07`	`Tain`	`And it's a waste of time to install addons that have functionality that you don't need just to move something.`
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`18:07.19`	`Tain`	`So the fact that you have never had to move a frame means no one else should want to either?`
`18:07.55`	ag`	`no, it's a point of view. I didn't present it as the objective truth :p`
`18:08.49`	`Cray`	`Mikma: I usually just copy my wtf folder over to the new char's`
`18:09.02`	`Tain`	`Here are a few frames I move independantly of any addons.`
`18:09.04`	`Tain`	`QuestTimerFrame, QuestWatchFrame, FlightMapTimesFrame, UIErrorsFrame, MirrorTimer1, MainMenuBarBackpackButton`
`18:09.19`	`Mikma`	`Cray: hmm.. that could do it actually`
`18:09.22`	`Tain`	`Plus the main menu bar micro buttons.`
`18:09.33`	`Mikma`	`Cray: but an addon would allow you to share your ui-layout easily`
`18:11.07`	`Mikma`	`a vote! should i go and wash my nuts?`
`18:11.22`	`Cray`	`Mikma: oh, i totally agree, but this is what i do for now`
`18:12.31`	`Mikma`	`haste: code us oPos`
`18:12.41`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r18118 10Squeenix/ (Alpha.lua Squeenix.toc): Squeenix - Removing alpha module, it's causing too many issues with black maps`
`18:12.45`	`Mikma`	`or, oLay sounds even better xD`
`18:12.55`	`Cray`	`olay! lol`
`18:13.06`	`haste`	`Mikma: :D ?`
`18:13.41`	`Mikma`	`haste: an addon that saves and remembers frame-positions. so you can use it to share your layout easily`
`18:14.05`	`haste`	`don't push more over to me!`
`18:14.17`	`haste`	`I managed to delete my WTF fodler today also =\`
`18:14.30`	`haste`	`and my internet is foobar, so I can't log and fix it`
`18:14.42`	`Mikma`	`there you go`
`18:14.56`	`Mikma`	`if you would have an addon that remembers the positions, you wouldn't be in trouble`
`18:15.26`	`Tain`	`That's exactly what Visor does, Mikma. See if the person working on the Ace2 version has it working yet.`
`18:16.03`	`haste`	`Mikma: yes, I would :p`
`18:16.07`	`Mikma`	`yeah but people in here don't maintain it anymore :(`
`18:16.26`	`haste`	`I should make an add on that saves AceDB tables tho'!`
`18:16.27`	`Tain`	`"People" would be me,and that's why I said see if the person working on the Ace2 version has it working yet.`
`18:16.43`	`Tain`	`He uploaded a release to wowi.`
`18:17.09`	`Mikma`	`Tain: i know you made visor1 but visor2 ain't done by you :(`
`18:17.19`	`haste`	`Mikma: he didn't make v1`
`18:17.22`	`haste`	`Rowne did`
`18:17.26`	`Tain`	`Am I typing in a foreign language today?`
`18:17.37`	`Mikma`	`en ymm�rr�`
`18:17.46`	`Mikma`	`haste: mmkay`
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`18:55.15`	`Mikma`	`yay i got a grid error!`
`18:55.50`	`Mikma`	`pastamancer: Grid/GridStatusAuras.lua:300: bad argument #1 to 'strlower' (string expected, got nil)`
`18:56.33`	`Hjalte`	`Mikma: I think there is a fix in the grid thread on the forum`
`18:56.45`	`Mikma`	`let's have a look`
`18:56.53`	`Hjalte`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.msg61182#msg61182`
`18:57.17`	`Nickenyfiken`	`damn anyone have good knowledge of pet events?`
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`18:59.12`	`CIA-17`	`03prandur * r18122 10FuBar_TransporterFu/ (FuBar_TransporterFu.toc TransporterFu.lua libs/): FuBar_TransporterFu: replaced Metrognome with AceEvent's :ScheduleRepeatingEvent`
`19:00.36`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`19:00.45`	`Mikma`	`Hjalte: thanks. let's hope that works then :)`
`19:00.53`	`ckknight`	`mjc, pong`
`19:01.13`	`mjc`	`be nice if cart showed dots on minimap too`
`19:02.11`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo, pong`
`19:02.32`	`ckknight`	`mjc, did you even read the wishlist for Cartographer?`
`19:02.38`	`mjc`	`nope :)`
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`19:03.39`	`sylvanaar`	`firt item on the list- make a wish list`
`19:03.58`	`ckknight`	`it's been there for a while, and it has an explanation as to why it hasn't happened yet.`
`19:04.00`	`mjc`	`ah`
`19:04.03`	`mjc`	`heh`
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`19:06.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`bah anyone know what event fires when you call a new pet(demon) with a lock?`
`19:06.59`	`Silviu-`	`hi ckk`
`19:07.11`	`ckknight`	`Nickenyfiken, minion`
`19:07.25`	`ckknight`	`not sure about the event, though`
`19:07.46`	`Silviu-`	have a little suggestion don`t know if it`s possible, can u make Carto_herbalism LOD when u click find herbs and unload when u cancel "find herbs" ? ;)
`19:08.23`	`Nickenyfiken`	`oh i was trying like all PET events two times`
`19:08.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i thought demons was threated as pets`
`19:09.49`	`Silviu-`	`ckknight u think could be possible ?`
`19:09.51`	`DrDre`	`who's working on henge again?`
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`19:14.30`	`Nickenyfiken`	`PLAYER_PET_CHANGED - "Fired when a player's pet changes. " didnt work but UNIT_PET fires`
`19:14.35`	`Nickenyfiken`	`weird`
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`19:16.38`	`fleppir`	`Hi, I'm new here, I'm looking for an addon that helps me record a centralized database for gear on players in a guild. Anyone know of a character exporter addon?`
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`19:17.52`	`Nickenyfiken`	`fleppir: not that i know of`
`19:18.53`	`fleppir`	`ok`
`19:19.04`	`fleppir`	`sounds like an itch that would have been scratched thou .....`
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`19:19.33`	`fleppir`	`seeing as how mod authors are scratching their own itches ^^`
`19:19.52`	`CIA-17`	`03neriak * r18123 10/branches/gfxToggle2/ (gfxToggle2.lua icon.tga):`
`19:19.52`	`CIA-17`	`gfxToggle2:`
`19:19.52`	`CIA-17`	`- added icon`
`19:19.53`	`CIA-17`	`- added update for short text option`
`19:20.01`	`Goeb`	`there are a bunch that do that, but everyone in the guild needs to install it... and it's pretty damn hard to get any addon installed guildwide`
`19:20.15`	`fleppir`	`well, my guild is special`
`19:20.27`	`Goeb`	`I believe one is called character profiler, or charprofile or something like that`
`19:20.28`	`fleppir`	`i'm making the default guildpack`
`19:20.34`	`fleppir`	`everyone will have the same bunch`
`19:20.39`	`fleppir`	`120 members`
`19:20.50`	`fleppir`	`thanx, i'll check that out`
`19:21.05`	`Goeb`	`not sure how well it's kept up to date`
`19:22.21`	`fleppir`	`not well, 4 month old`
`19:22.24`	`fleppir`	`but it's a start`
`19:22.25`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i guess its impossible to gather information from other players even if they are in your guild without either inspect or make them have a mod that responds to gear information request... but i may be wrong`
`19:22.28`	`fleppir`	`i can build on that`
`19:22.44`	`fleppir`	`there is no trust issue`
`19:22.57`	`fleppir`	`it's just a simplification beyond having ppl make ctprofile`
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`19:23.13`	`fleppir`	`aaand to have the data in a database that we can query`
`19:23.16`	`Goeb`	`I've been in several guilds that have a spot on the guildsite to upload your profile, but noone ever remembers to do it`
`19:23.34`	`Goeb`	`it's almost easier to get them to use ctprofile.net and manually enter it all`
`19:23.38`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i guess it would be easier to have a mod that inspect all guildies in range and cache the infro so it can be exported`
`19:23.44`	`chris152`	`hey guys.. does anyone know what the prat-module addonmessages does?`
`19:24.08`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: yeah, i was working on one that would do that - but it wasnt worth the hassle`
`19:24.41`	`sylvanaar`	`displays messages that are sent in the hidden addon channel`
`19:25.27`	`Nickenyfiken`	`sylvanaar: ok, i thought it would be pretty easy to do that`
`19:25.30`	`fleppir`	`nicken: that's an idea thou to build an addon from, save profiles of inspects`
`19:25.56`	`sylvanaar`	`sylvanaar: it is easy to write`
`19:26.02`	`sylvanaar`	`doh`
`19:26.07`	`chris152`	`ah okay, thank you.. i thought it'd suppress the addon's loading spam, so i turned off !stopthespam but the addon messages were still there ^^`
`19:26.11`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: ^^`
`19:26.38`	`Nickenyfiken`	`hehe :-)`
`19:26.48`	`sylvanaar`	`chris152: no, sorry`
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`19:28.55`	`kergoth`	`why doesnt wow seem to cache items in wdb on tbc?`
`19:29.00`	`sylvanaar`	`fleppir: pretty sure thats been done`
`19:30.30`	`fleppir`	`sylvanaar: any idea what it was named? I have searched some of the sites but there is no single repository and addons can sometimes have a confusing name`
`19:30.54`	`Nickenyfiken`	`can i make a RegisterEvent delayed or do i have to call make a ScheduleEvent in the RegisterEvent function?`
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`19:31.21`	`Mikma`	`UMF wtf`
`19:31.31`	`Mikma`	`i have some addon that keeps on targeting dead targets`
`19:31.54`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: what do you mean delayed?`
`19:32.44`	`Mikma`	`anyone has any idea what addon does that?`
`19:32.55`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: you mean 'process after the current event is fully processed'`
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`19:33.31`	`sylvanaar`	`Mikma: what class are you`
`19:33.31`	`Nickenyfiken`	`I have self:RegisterEvent("UNIT_PET", "GetKnownDemonSpells") but i want the function GetKnownDemonSpells() to be run after a couple of seconds instead of right after the event fires...`
`19:33.35`	`Mikma`	`sylvanaar: priest`
`19:33.42`	`Mikma`	`my friend has the same problem as rogue`
`19:33.59`	`Nickenyfiken`	`sylvanaar: yeah maybe something like that`
`19:34.46`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: you are trying to stop the events from stacking`
`19:35.20`	`Nickenyfiken`	`no`
`19:35.24`	`Nickenyfiken`	`i just want it delayed`
`19:35.55`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: yeah, use ScheduleEvent`
`19:36.13`	`Nickenyfiken`	`because when the warlock enter the world "UNIT_PET" is fired if he got a Demon out... but the spellbook seems to be NA`
`19:36.21`	`Nickenyfiken`	`it works like 50/50`
`19:36.23`	`Nickenyfiken`	`or so`
`19:36.26`	`sylvanaar`	`oh`
`19:37.39`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: then you need to address the issue by listening for another event`
`19:38.57`	`sylvanaar`	`Nickenyfiken: if blizz doesnt fire one i guess you can just poll using scheduleevent`
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`19:47.44`	`Mikma`	`ffs`
`19:47.52`	`Mikma`	`what addon keeps targeting dead mobs?`
`19:50.03`	`Amadeo`	`mobs or Hunters? :D`
`19:50.59`	`Mikma`	`mobs`
`19:51.09`	`Mikma`	`i have some addon that loses my target and targets some dead mob all the time`
`19:52.40`	`Amadeo`	`that's strange!`
`19:52.57`	`Amadeo`	`I used to use an addon that retargets Hunters when they FD`
`19:53.00`	`Mikma`	`it is strange, and fucking annoying`
`19:53.04`	`Amadeo`	`but they don't need to FD anymore since they destroy everything!`
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`19:53.54`	`Hjalte`	`Mikma: It might be Silverdragon`
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`19:55.37`	`Mikma`	`Hjalte: hmm! that's new addon i installed today`
`19:55.47`	`Hjalte`	`Turn off scanning`
`19:56.35`	`Mikma`	`it ain't on`
`19:56.46`	`Hjalte`	`It solved my problem`
`19:59.02`	`Mikma`	`let's see`
`19:59.05`	`Mikma`	`i disabled it now`
`20:07.12`	`CIA-17`	`03eggi * r18124 10AceBuffGroups/ (. AceBuffGroups.toc core.lua):`
`20:07.13`	`CIA-17`	`AceBuffGroups`
`20:07.13`	`CIA-17`	`- added a check so that the spirit check can only occur every 3 seconds (uses metrognome 2)`
`20:07.34`	`Mikma`	`Hjalte: yeah problem solved, thanks again`
`20:09.11`	`ckknight`	`Silviu-, you can't unload.`
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`20:09.37`	`Silviu-`	`ckk oky pitty :)`
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`20:15.06`	xplo`	`are secureactionbuttons together with states known to behave a bit.. different with assigned icon textures?`
`20:16.27`	xplo`	`since i made the buttons all be secureanchorentertemplates (to catch mouseovers) they all decided to share the same texture`
`20:21.03`	`CIA-17`	`03daklu * r18125 10/branches/FuBar_DakSmak/: Created folder remotely`
`20:23.17`	`CIA-17`	`03daklu 07Daklu * r18126 10FuBar_DakSmak/:`
`20:23.17`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_DakSmak`
`20:23.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Created branch`
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`20:27.19`	`DrDre`	`Why doesnt TinyTip's anchoring Offsets change the fishing bobber tooltip? I want that higher :/`
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`20:34.31`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: You pong'd?`
`20:34.47`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo, you pinged a while ago`
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`20:35.17`	`Kemayo`	`Ah, right. I crashed someone's game by sending a Cartographer note to them. :)`
`20:35.23`	`ckknight`	`mmm`
`20:35.26`	`ckknight`	`they deserved it.`
`20:35.45`	`Krayakin`	`lol`
`20:35.50`	`ckknight`	`did they have Cartographer?`
`20:35.55`	`Kemayo`	`Yup.`
`20:36.13`	`Kemayo`	`I can't guarantee it was the same version, but I can check with them.`
`20:36.28`	`yacoob`	`Kemayo, cool. Now make a note that randomly deletes an epic :)`
`20:38.00`	ag`_	`Kemayo: doesn't it check for version or something like that?`
`20:38.21`	ag`_	`and how the hell could it make the game crash... Wouldn't it just give an error?`
`20:38.52`	`Krayakin`	`kinda off topic but does anyone use hydrairc?`
`20:39.54`	`Kemayo`	ag`_: That I cannot answer. All I know is that I sent the note and their game crashed that very instant. I can probably persuade them to let me try it again.
`20:40.16`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`20:40.30`	`ckknight`	`the comm hasn't been tested as extensively as I had hoped.`
`20:41.26`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: Was it targetting a specific dead mob?`
`20:41.43`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: spiders in spiderwing of naxx`
`20:41.50`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: happened on EVERY spider grrr`
`20:42.42`	ag`_	`ckknight: btw`
`20:42.51`	ag`_	`how come you only have 1.2 of fubar up on curse?`
`20:42.58`	`ckknight`	`because I'm lazy.`
`20:43.11`	`ckknight`	`and it's too much effort to support the sites`
`20:43.16`	`ckknight`	`when I could just be coding.`
`20:43.18`	ag`_	`yeah I know`
`20:43.25`	`Krayakin`	`delegate the work ;)`
`20:43.30`	`Pucmel`	`write a script`
`20:43.38`	`ckknight`	`Pucmel, I tried, once.`
`20:44.14`	ag`_	`Would help the usage of it though. Not that you care, but people have to learn that titan sucks.`
`20:45.25`	`ckknight`	`I'd rather code than deal with updating it on curse`
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`20:46.15`	`CIA-17`	`03xinsonic * r18127 10sRaidFrames/localization.zhTW.lua: sRaidFrames - update zhTW.`
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`20:47.29`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub 07TBC * r18128 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: Ace2 (TBC Branch) - Merged in r14130`
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`20:52.49`	`Tekkub`	`how cute`
`20:52.50`	`Tekkub`	`a pally named Bubbles`
`20:52.50`	`Teomyr`	`haha`
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`20:57.21`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18130 10SilverDragon/Core.lua:`
`20:57.21`	`CIA-17`	`SilverDragon:`
`20:57.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Oh, I'm retarded. (DB stuff.)`
`20:57.22`	`CIA-17`	`- Hopefully fix Mikma's targetting issue.`
`20:58.47`	ag`_	`what is SilverDragon?`
`20:58.47`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: Could you pretty-please check that? :)`
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`20:58.48`	`Kemayo`	ag`_: It remembers where rare mobs are.
`20:58.50`	ag`_	`ok`
`20:58.57`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: Yesterday Silverdragon gave me errors each time i moused over my friends rare pet`
`20:58.59`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: since you asked so nicely :)`
`20:59.36`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: About what time yesterday? I fixed an error that might have been causing that...`
`20:59.56`	`Hjalte`	`It might have been with the first release. I'll try and check it again later today`
`21:00.11`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: Thanks. :)`
`21:00.40`	`Kemayo`	`I should have throught before trying this. Having to find a rare spawn to test it is a real pain.`
`21:01.42`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r18131 10FuBar_RecZone/ (4 files): FuBar_RecZone : Added zone faction Sanctuary. (No PvP allowed)`
`21:03.13`	`Kemayo`	`Speaking of which... does anyone know of a reliably spawned rare?`
`21:03.21`	`phyber`	`has someone fucked up the Instructor Raz mod?`
`21:03.28`	`phyber`	`the disrupting shout timer is like 3 seconds off.`
`21:04.18`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r18132 10CharacterInfo/ (CharacterInfo.lua CharacterInfo.xml): CharacterInfo : Lookup of unknown items on click. Items are now linkable with shift-click`
`21:05.01`	`vhaarr`	`phyber: Today marks the day that the Raz mod hasn't been touched for 1 month.`
`21:05.27`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18133 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Tell TargetByName to use exact name.`
`21:06.07`	`phyber`	`vhaarr: ok.`
`21:06.42`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: The target scanning won't work in TBC.`
`21:06.52`	`CIA-17`	`03wmrojer * r18134 10CharacterInfoStorage/CharacterInfoStorage.lua: CharacterInfoStorage : Added more configuration options. (Purge, Remove, Update)`
`21:07.11`	`Kemayo`	`Hmm... I guess the alliance outrunners in the Barrens are almost always up...`
`21:09.11`	`Maldivia`	`isn't there a "rare" mob just outside the NE noob area`
`21:09.34`	`Maldivia`	`that respawn pretty fast`
`21:10.46`	`Hjalte`	`Isnt that guy in BRM classified as rare?`
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`21:23.46`	`mjc`	`bleh`
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`21:36.36`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: nope, ain't fixed`
`21:37.05`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: In BRM, the Scarshield Quartermaster, is elite. Targeting him gives me an error.`
`21:38.07`	`CIA-17`	`03prandur * r18136 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`21:38.07`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_ItemBonusesFu:`
`21:38.07`	`CIA-17`	`- removed unncessary AceHook lib`
`21:38.07`	`CIA-17`	`- changed auto versioning to lua file from toc`
`21:38.07`	`CIA-17`	`- set svn:eol-style prop`
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`21:41.49`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: Is it happening outside of Naxx?`
`21:41.55`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: no idea`
`21:42.01`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: http://ace.pastey.net/2770-3yul`
`21:42.26`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: As luck would have it, I'm about to commit a fix to that. :)`
`21:42.34`	`Hjalte`	`Great :)`
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`21:42.56`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: Also, does it happen if you disable the "scan" option?`
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`21:43.44`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: it is disabled`
`21:44.48`	`CIA-17`	`03curney 07Gandharva * r18137 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua:`
`21:44.48`	`CIA-17`	`Cartographer_Herbalism:`
`21:44.48`	`CIA-17`	`- oops it helps to include the file that has all of the spelling errors fixed. sorry`
`21:45.19`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: If i have the scan option enabled and i target a mob, Silverdragon will target another mob but i dont see it.`
`21:47.16`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18138 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Fix a pattern and change how coordinates are stored.`
`21:47.29`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: That commit should fix your error.`
`21:47.37`	`Hjalte`	`Ill check it out`
`21:51.08`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: I'm still having the problem with Silverdragon targetting another mob, when i have the scan option enabled`
`21:54.45`	`beerke`	`The faces you see in the characterframes and such, are those files stored in some default folder. I am trying to find portraits of animals but have no idea where to look...`
`21:56.42`	`Teomyr`	`i think they're generated on-demand depending on what that unit looks like`
`21:57.07`	`beerke`	`Hmm so they are generated from the texture files ...`
`21:57.40`	`Teomyr`	`from the unit's 3D model`
`21:58.13`	`beerke`	`Yes, i kinda thought so, any idea where i can find out how that is done ?`
`21:59.19`	`Teomyr`	`its handled internally by the client`
`21:59.50`	`Teomyr`	`but there are mods like "adapt" which try to emulate this, sort of`
`21:59.51`	`beerke`	`So there is no option to generate yourself a portrait icon from a texture ?`
`22:00.05`	`beerke`	`well adapt makes 3d frames of them`
`22:00.16`	`beerke`	`or square/round iiirc`
`22:01.47`	`Teomyr`	`i'm not very familiar with this, unfortunately`
`22:01.58`	`beerke`	`nor me, but i am digging`
`22:02.24`	`Teomyr`	`if you have a unitid, you can use SetPortraitTexture to generate a portrait for that unit`
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`22:03.17`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: I have absolutely no idea why it would be doing any targetting if Settings->Scan is disabled. ;_;`
`22:03.33`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18139 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Try again to fix the targeting glitch reported by Mikma and Hjalte.`
`22:03.37`	`Kemayo`	`Ah, there we go.`
`22:03.42`	`Mikma`	`Kemayo: oh well, i just keep it disabled in naxx and try it later again`
`22:03.54`	`beerke`	`thanks Teomyr looks like that is what i am looking for`
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`22:04.24`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: It is the scan option in settings that's disabled, not the one in the top level of the menu, right?`
`22:05.36`	`CIA-17`	`03cladhaire * r18140 10TradeskillInfoUI/Testfile.txt: .TradeskillInfo: Test commit`
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`22:06.26`	`CIA-17`	`03cladhaire * r18141 10TradeskillInfoUI/Testfile.txt: TradeskillInfoUI: removing test file`
`22:07.26`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: Did that commit help?`
`22:07.49`	`Hjalte`	`I'm testing it now :)`
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`22:15.40`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: It doesn't change my target anymore, but at the same time, it doesnt tell me of the rare spawn next to me anymore`
`22:16.23`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: Update, If i target the rare mob, i lose my target after a few seconds.`
`22:16.51`	`Hjalte`	`And no announcements at all`
`22:17.24`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: Type "/script SilverDragon.lastseen = {}" into the editbox, and see if it displays the announcement.`
`22:18.02`	`Hjalte`	`I'm logging in again now, just went out and deleted my saved variables for silverdragon`
`22:20.12`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: Having deleted my saved variables, i was able to get an announcement when mousing over the rare mob and using your script also gives an announcement. It still detargets the rare mob a few seconds after i targeted him though`
`22:20.50`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: I think I see what's causing that. Give me a second to fix it.`
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`22:21.58`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: Additionally, now that the rare mob is in the fubar tooltip, nothing that i do (mouseover, target) except using your script, seems to refresh it. I'm thinking about the timer`
`22:23.13`	`Kemayo`	`It won't notice it again for another 10 minutes -- I wanted to stop loads of onscreen spam for the entire time you're around the mob.`
`22:23.25`	`Kemayo`	`That said, a shorter cooldown might be a good idea.`
`22:24.05`	`Hjalte`	`When i see a rare mob, I usually kill it right away :)`
`22:24.19`	`Kemayo`	`I was really just picking numbers out of the air for cooldowns and scan intervals. :)`
`22:25.20`	`Hjalte`	`About that rare pet that was giving me errors.. I found my friend again today, and unfortunately, her pet was no longer rare :(`
`22:25.48`	`Kemayo`	`Noooo!`
`22:26.01`	`Teomyr`	`Hjalte: i think the pet only remains rare until it is first dismissed/dies`
`22:26.27`	`Hjalte`	`Teomyr: Oh.. I'm not hunter, so I dont know. Thanks`
`22:26.51`	`Teomyr`	`Hjalte: the hunter itself doesn't notice this btw, only others see it :D`
`22:27.48`	`Hjalte`	`Crap. I just died. I tried mind controlling the rare.. That would kind of make him my pet.`
`22:28.04`	`Mikma`	`hey peeps, how can i make a macro that first casts nature's swiftness and then healing touch rank10?`
`22:28.10`	`kergoth`	`woot, you can cancel weapon buffs in tbc`
`22:28.11`	`kergoth`	`i had no idea`
`22:28.13`	`Mikma`	`also, it needs to have a working cooldown in it`
`22:28.19`	`kergoth`	`thatll be nice as a rogue for when a shaman using windfury enters my group`
`22:28.25`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18142 10SilverDragon/ (Core.lua Locals.enUS.lua):`
`22:28.25`	`CIA-17`	`SilverDragon:`
`22:28.25`	`CIA-17`	`-Adjust targeting logic`
`22:28.25`	`CIA-17`	`-Change some menu item names`
`22:28.26`	`kergoth`	`s/windfury/windfury totem/`
`22:29.12`	`Hjalte`	`Kermayo: Is it possible you could maybe add a notification in the chat? I tend to miss it in the middle of the screen`
`22:29.41`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: Sure, that's easy.`
`22:29.44`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18143 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Remove debug print.`
`22:31.01`	`Nargiddley`	`Mikma: live or 2.0 ?`
`22:31.18`	`Mikma`	`Nargiddley: live`
`22:31.43`	`Tekkub`	`people still play on live?`
`22:31.52`	`Mikma`	`i remembered something like --/cast Nature's Swiftness /cast Nature's Swiftness /cast Healing Touch(Rank 10)`
`22:32.07`	`Nargiddley`	`/cast Natures Swiftness /script SpellStopCasting() /cast Healing Touch(Rank 10)`
`22:32.08`	`Mikma`	`Tekkub: yeah i see absolutely no idea on playing TBC beta since the chars get deleted`
`22:32.08`	`Hjalte`	`Give beta key.. :(`
`22:32.21`	`Nargiddley`	`dont need the first one if the first spell cast is what you want the cooldown for`
`22:32.23`	`Mikma`	`Nargiddley: but it needs to have a working cooldown in the macro too :P`
`22:32.30`	`Tekkub`	`well "play" for me is more of "exists"`
`22:32.36`	`Mikma`	`Nargiddley: oh ok then`
`22:32.38`	`Tekkub`	`I have no real goals in live either`
`22:32.49`	`Nargiddley`	`the first /cast or CastSpellByName() will be used for feedack`
`22:32.53`	`Tekkub`	`I'm just... there... writing addons...`
`22:32.55`	`Nargiddley`	`*feedback`
`22:33.24`	`Kalamadi`	`Tekkub: Same here. The draenei racials are so much better than any other on the alliance, so I think I may just reroll >_>`
`22:33.56`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: With the latest versiuon from wowace it doesnt lose its target if the target is rare :)`
`22:33.56`	`Nargiddley`	`i've still got some goals on live, basicly only go on to raid tho`
`22:34.08`	`Kemayo`	`Yay!`
`22:36.00`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: And, although i only tested it with mind controlling the rare, it didnt give me an error to have a rare as Hjalte's minion.`
`22:36.42`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: Awesome.`
`22:36.53`	`CIA-17`	`03kemayo * r18144 10SilverDragon/ (Core.lua Locals.enUS.lua): SilverDragon: Add option to print notifications to chat.`
`22:37.53`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: Can i ask what the update timers are now? I'm wondering when the tooltip should refresh, when I'm just standing here`
`22:38.53`	`Kemayo`	`The tooltip will refresh when it sees a rare that it hasn't seen in the last 10 minutes. If you have scanning enabled, it will look for new rares nearby every 5 seconds.`
`22:39.34`	`Hjalte`	`Okay.. So when the timer in the tooltip reaches 10 minutes, it should give me a notifications again and start at 1?`
`22:39.54`	`Kemayo`	`Yup.`
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`22:40.51`	`Kemayo`	`My line of thought is that there aren't many rares that will spawn more than once every 10 minutes, so if you see one more frequently than that then you've already been alerted about it.`
`22:40.54`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: I know this is a big shot, but any chance you could make addon add a note in cartographer with the rare mob?`
`22:41.20`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: It's on my todo list, but I'll need to go look at the Cartographer API first.`
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`22:43.00`	`Susa`	`hello`
`22:43.08`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: Thanks for this addon. It's great :) And the timers are working by the way ;)`
`22:43.40`	`Susa`	`someone know why all ace addons are blocked on the current testserver ?`
`22:44.05`	`Kalamadi`	`Fear Ward is now available to all priests, correct?`
`22:44.19`	`Hjalte`	`Kalamadi: No, to dwarf and draenei priests`
`22:44.22`	`Susa`	`i cant use any ace addons ...`
`22:44.32`	`Teomyr`	`Susa: the ptr is running wow 2.0, you will probably need to use the TBC versions of the addons`
`22:44.44`	`vhaarr`	`Kalamadi: It's not.`
`22:44.58`	`Susa`	`i used all addons which are made for 2.0 but they dont work on testrealm`
`22:45.10`	`vhaarr`	`You need the TBC branch of Ace2.`
`22:45.12`	`Susa`	`"Ace ar not supported by blizzard"`
`22:45.17`	`vhaarr`	`And you have to fix the TOC.`
`22:45.18`	`Susa`	`i used ace2.0`
`22:45.33`	`Susa`	`fix the toc ?`
`22:45.43`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: No problem. :)`
`22:45.44`	`vhaarr`	`Read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons`
`22:45.55`	`vhaarr`	`And run http://wowace.com/files/Ace2/Ace2-r18128%5BTBC%5D.zip`
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`22:46.22`	`Kemayo`	`Hjalte: Did the chat alert work, by the way? (I see no reason that it shouldn't, but I didn't have an oportunity to test it.)`
`22:46.43`	`Hjalte`	`Kemayo: Just tested it, and it works fine`
`22:48.43`	`Kemayo`	`Awesome.`
`22:49.57`	`Mikma`	`where in the hell is nevcairiel :D`
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`22:51.53`	`Susa`	`"...TOC version bumped to 20000,..." whats the meaning of this`
`22:52.03`	`Susa`	`what i have to do?`
`22:53.07`	`Hjalte`	`Susa: Go to the folder of each addon and open the .toc file. Then change Interface: 11200 to Interface: 20000`
`22:53.07`	`vhaarr`	`I just added a paragraph to clarify: "In many cases, you will have to edit the addons TOC file and set the Interface number from 11200 to 20000. The TOC file is inside the ZIP and has the same name as the addon with a .toc suffix. Open it in notepad or any text editor and change the line that says ## Interface: 11200 to say ## Interface: 20000."`
`22:53.11`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: wake up :O http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender3`
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`22:55.38`	`Susa`	`big thx for HELP !`
`22:56.35`	`Kemayo`	`Mikma: I've made a bunch of changes to how rarechecking works in SilverDragon. If you don't mind testing it again briefly then you'd be a wonderful person...`
`22:57.31`	`andremar`	`silverdragon?`
`23:00.34`	`Hjalte`	`Can anyone tell me why i get the full 3d model in ag_uf when i target Lothos Riftwaker, instead of just the head when i target everything else?`
`23:02.09`	`Susa`	`it work yeah`
`23:02.15`	`Susa`	`fu blizz !`
`23:03.09`	`Susa`	`someone know a working addon like aftooltip?`
`23:06.43`	`Hjalte`	`Susa: I don't know precisely what aftooltip does, but try taking a look at tinytip: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5096`
`23:06.54`	`kergoth`	`gotta love a quest called "Nothin' Says Lovin' Like a Big Stinger"`
`23:07.38`	`vhaarr`	`Susa: But get it from http://wowace.com/files/`
`23:10.47`	`Susa`	`i dont need a lot of addons but some are very important`
`23:11.20`	`Tain`	`There's a handful of addons that I would not play the game without.`
`23:11.38`	`vhaarr`	`A tip mod with a ToT display is one of them.`
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`23:12.29`	`JoshBorke`	`Tain: likve viosr? hint hint nudge nudge`
`23:12.36`	`JoshBorke`	`wow, i butchered that`
`23:12.52`	`Fudge`	`JoshBorke, yeah, you should be ashamed of yourself.`
`23:12.56`	`Tain`	`Someone's doing an Ace2 Visor, hope it works well!`
`23:13.21`	`JoshBorke`	`I hope it works!`
`23:13.41`	`Fudge`	`Anyone know any Patch2.0 compatible damage information mods a'la Recap-like?`
`23:13.50`	`JoshBorke`	`s/!/ too!/`
`23:13.54`	`Susa`	`i only use agunit, a tooltip thats show mit the tip in the middle , ackbar , und something linke eemoon`
`23:14.05`	`Tain`	`The frame positioning stuff should be fine. I'm not sure what will happen with secure frames, but I think they'll be fine since they're set before combat.`
`23:14.19`	`JoshBorke`	`Tain: yea, I agree`
`23:14.30`	`JoshBorke`	`Fudge: gello updated recap for TBC (I thin k)`
`23:14.57`	`JoshBorke`	`stupid wireless`
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`23:16.42`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`23:16.55`	`JoshBorke`	`heya ck`
`23:18.33`	`Susa`	`hey ck`
`23:21.43`	`kergoth`	`Fudge, i use minnastats, just needed to modify a couple things for lua5.1`
`23:25.49`	`Tuller`	`its now time to play: Lets get periodic table to work with vBagnon, hurray :)`
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`23:31.22`	`kergoth`	`Tuller, excellent game to play. nice work on vbagnon btw, love it :)`
`23:33.15`	`Tuller`	`thanks, I've done a bit of changes to the UI now, so its quite possible you may hate it :)`
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`23:42.20`	`Tekkub`	`Tuller, it published?`
`23:42.33`	`Tuller`	`the UI changes? not yet`
`23:42.54`	`Tekkub`	`oh and FWIW, I intend to write a new version of SEBags that you can add your event method to`
`23:43.21`	`Tekkub`	`I want SE to be standaloney and fire events into AceEvent and whatever other event handlers are in need`
`23:43.41`	`Tekkub`	`blizzy fixed it so that the bags are always inited at PL/PEW`
`23:43.59`	`Tekkub`	`so the "no backpack updae at login" bug will just go away`
`23:44.13`	`Tekkub`	`and minor request`
`23:44.26`	`Tekkub`	`an option to not "condense" down small group`
`23:44.35`	`Tekkub`	`one group, one line`
`23:44.41`	`Tekkub`	`that's what I want :)`
`23:45.08`	`Tuller`	`groups have kindof disappeared right now`
`23:45.27`	`Tekkub`	`OMGDEATH!`
`23:45.37`	`Tuller`	`its an all in one view, that you can then filter. But...you can drag the tabs off into new windows`
`23:45.44`	`Tekkub`	`it's not a boring ol onebag again is it?`
`23:46.05`	`Tekkub`	`aw.. I like allinone seperated view pouty face`
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`23:46.34`	`Tekkub`	`I never liked seperate frames, but I never liked "all meshed into one bag" frames either`
`23:47.04`	`Tain`	`I do!`
`23:47.06`	`Tuller`	`well I combined the things you hate into one addon :)`
`23:47.08`	`Tain`	`I like one bag, one frame.`
`23:47.31`	`Tekkub`	`I like my bags to be like a filing cabinet`
`23:47.50`	`Tekkub`	`everything in one bin, but seperated out and sorted all analretentivly`
`23:47.50`	`Tain`	`It's all about what I want.`
`23:48.11`	`Tekkub`	`tain doesn't count`
`23:48.37`	`Tekkub`	`he didn't write a nice lib of item categorizions for use in a sorted onebag mod`
`23:48.43`	`Tain`	`One, two, three`
`23:53.19`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r18145 10Automaton/modules/AutoSell.lua: Automaton: AutoSell: use gmatch or gfind, whichever exists.`
`23:54.34`	`MoonWolf`	`whats a vbagnon ?`
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`23:54.58`	`MoonWolf`	`its name interests me, and the fact that it somehow can use pt.`
`23:55.07`	`Tuller`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=6306`
`23:56.15`	`vhaarr`	`Tuller: That looks sweet. Does it save the item data across characters and bank, etc?`
`23:56.22`	`Tuller`	`no, not yet`
`23:56.31`	`vhaarr`	`ah, "not yet", excellent.`
`23:56.36`	`vhaarr`	`I'll wait :)`
`23:56.40`	`Xuerian`	`lubs.`
`23:56.43`	`Xuerian`	`lubs much.`
`23:56.46`	`phyber`	`you guys see that Tier 6 video? few days old now so you probably did :)`
`23:57.07`	`anenigma`	`Tuller: any news on vbagnon+live 2.0 ? or is it tbc only?`
`23:57.18`	`Tuller`	`I have no idea`
`23:57.19`	`nymbia`	`what in the hell...`
`23:57.57`	`vhaarr`	`No Ace2 this time either, eh? :P`
`23:58.06`	`Tuller`	`nope :P`
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`23:58.53`	`nymbia`	`ok so.. cwdg added chinese localization to manufac. modified the toc and added a zhCN file, so it looked like everything was fine at first glance. on closer inspection, part of his modification to the toc was removal of ALL the embedded lib calls.`
`23:58.57`	`vhaarr`	`Most addon users have it in some addon or another, I'm thinking the impact is negligible by now.`
`23:59.13`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r18146 10Automaton/modules/AutoGossip/ (5 files): Automaton: AutoGossip: add autoturnin of stacks of thorium shells for thorium arrows (from the guy in the valley of honor in orgrimmar).`
`23:59.17`	`vhaarr`	`nymbia: Yeah, that's the l10n nubs for you.`
`23:59.28`	`phyber`	`nymbia: nice.`
`23:59.36`	`vhaarr`	`He has done worse things, I think.`
`23:59.43`	`vhaarr`	`Or maybe it was one of the others.`
`23:59.52`	`nymbia`	`yeah. =\`

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