| 00:02.59 | ckknight | back |
| 00:05.03 | Nickenyfiken | Seracht: i think all modules for ora2 is embedded in the addon |
| 00:05.11 | ag` | Has anyone noticed anything regarding partypets in the secure frames code from blizzard? |
| 00:06.34 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r17817 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua Localisations.lua Skinner.lua options.lua): Skinner: Added 5 Middle Frames |
| 00:06.37 | ckknight | hrm, committed an Ace2 change and CIA didn't pick up yet. |
| 00:06.48 | ckknight | I think it was r17816 :-P |
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| 00:07.50 | Nickenyfiken | ag`: would it be possible to add a feature to aguf that shows hunters as alive instead of dead when they feign? |
| 00:08.05 | Silviu- | ckknight which part of Ace u updated so i know what to update not just all again ~~ |
| 00:08.34 | ckknight | AceAddon, AceDB, AceDebug |
| 00:08.41 | Silviu- | TBC ? |
| 00:08.42 | ckknight | Silviu-, just TBC |
| 00:08.50 | Silviu- | Ah ok then CIA did post it |
| 00:08.51 | ckknight | and you should be using the standalone for that anyway |
| 00:09.21 | Nargiddley` | ag`: you can set the attribute unitsuffix to "pet" on a secure unit frame, then either use the headers as if it was a party or parent it to the party frame and set useparent-unit |
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| 00:12.05 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r17818 10TooltipExchange/Core.lua: |
| 00:12.05 | CIA-17 | TooltipExchange |
| 00:12.05 | CIA-17 | - Removed upgrade code as it was useless and bugged anyway |
| 00:12.45 | kergoth | the "documentation" on the secure state stuff is awfully mediocre |
| 00:14.05 | Nargiddley` | yeah, had to read the code to find that |
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| 00:15.13 | kergoth | would it be that hard to document it sanely? |
| 00:15.16 | kergoth | honestly |
| 00:15.54 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r17819 10Skinner/options.lua: Skinner: mf2 bug |
| 00:16.55 | Nargiddley | took me ages to notice unitsuffix, not mentioned anywhere but the party/raid pet code |
| 00:17.21 | Nargiddley | and thats not even in an obvious place |
| 00:17.32 | kergoth | what i want to see, as simple as it is |
| 00:18.23 | kergoth | is a list of attributes used by blizzard code and a corresponding description of its syntax. if its a visibility/state style rule list, then call it a fucking rule list syntactically and link to a descirption of that syntax |
| 00:18.32 | kergoth | rudamenty stuff. ! inverts a condition in such a rule list, etc |
| 00:18.35 | kergoth | rudamentary, even |
| 00:18.38 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 00:21.22 | ag` | not sure what you mean Nargiddley |
| 00:21.30 | ag` | I have a secure header which creates party frames for me |
| 00:21.43 | Nargiddley | you could either have another secure header for the pet frames |
| 00:22.01 | ag` | hm, another header? |
| 00:22.10 | Nargiddley | only difference would be :SetAttribute("unitsufix","pet") on the actual frames |
| 00:22.18 | Nargiddley | or |
| 00:22.28 | ag` | but how would that make me able to offset the pet from the unit frame |
| 00:22.32 | Nargiddley | children of the party frames |
| 00:22.50 | Nargiddley | with :SetAttribute("useparent-unit", true) |
| 00:23.02 | Nargiddley | and the unit suffix |
| 00:23.30 | Nargiddley | i use that way for target of target frames |
| 00:23.41 | sbu | ag`: you know about that 'duel error' in aguf? |
| 00:23.44 | ag` | what happens if I do that |
| 00:23.47 | ag` | sbu: nope |
| 00:23.50 | sbu | oh ok |
| 00:24.05 | ag` | Nargiddley: what does SetAttribute("useparent-unit", true) do |
| 00:24.08 | ag` | bleh |
| 00:24.14 | ag` | just tell me where the code is :) |
| 00:24.14 | sbu | if you want to start duel (rightclick -> duel) wow tells you something about now allowed stuff |
| 00:24.16 | ag` | so I can read it |
| 00:24.23 | ag` | sbu: probably yes |
| 00:24.30 | ag` | I need tofix a menu or something |
| 00:24.35 | Nargiddley | makes the secureunitframe inherit the unit attribute from its parent |
| 00:24.48 | sbu | ag`: yah, just wanted to tell you :) |
| 00:25.18 | ag` | adding pets is going to suck |
| 00:25.24 | ag` | very much |
| 00:25.35 | Nargiddley | so if its parent is a party frame it'll get that unit eg party1, then a unitsuffix of "pet" would make it party1pet |
| 00:25.51 | CIA-17 | 03dahn * r17820 10Bidder/Bidder.toc: |
| 00:25.51 | CIA-17 | Bidder: |
| 00:25.51 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.51 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:27.05 | mjc | trunk cruft has gotten completely fucking out of control |
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| 00:27.50 | Nargiddley | SecureButton_GetUnit in SecureTemplates.lua is where this all happens if you want to look at it |
| 00:28.29 | Dahn | bah. externals seem set up properly but the zip script doesn't want to include them. any suggestions? |
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| 00:33.06 | mjc | I have a family member who is in the web business and should not be. how do I tell them this without severing all familial ties? :/ |
| 00:33.18 | kergoth | ehm, how i download the ptr client stuff? |
| 00:33.42 | kergoth | http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/downloads/ is a 404 |
| 00:35.14 | ag` | SetAttribute("useparent-unit", true) |
| 00:35.18 | ag` | what does that do |
| 00:35.25 | kergoth | he just told you |
| 00:35.27 | kergoth | scroll up |
| 00:35.39 | XLVII | I need help fixing something.. FuBar doesn't really 'center' anything |
| 00:35.41 | ag` | I don't get it ;P |
| 00:35.44 | XLVII | It's completely off my screen. |
| 00:36.07 | Nargiddley | makes the frame inherit the attribute "unit" from its parent |
| 00:36.10 | ag` | ah yes |
| 00:37.22 | haarm | mjc, hack his servers and delete everything |
| 00:37.36 | mjc | haha |
| 00:37.47 | haarm | should be enough to say "you shouldn't be in this business" |
| 00:38.38 | CIA-17 | 03dahn * r17821 10DKPmon/ (28 files in 10 dirs): DKPmon: initial import |
| 00:38.52 | XLVII | I need help fixing something.. FuBar doesn't really 'center' anything, it's pretty much to the left.. |
| 00:40.53 | leech2k | dkpmon? work with eqdkp? |
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| 00:45.11 | Dahn | yes. working on the initial imports then will check in the eqdkp importer |
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| 00:46.11 | gezr | howdy yall |
| 00:46.11 | Tain | Damn I need butter and I don't feel like leaving the house again |
| 00:46.27 | Dahn | there isn't an upload data feature yet. but it's something i'll get to. for now the modded CT_RaidTracker is used. downloading updated data from eqDKP works fine |
| 00:46.30 | Zuuzu | Hell'O |
| 00:47.06 | gezr | been trying to get a lot of my guild mates on ace and its been hell with todays updates, that the updater is allowing to pass on, is there a known issue currently with Ora2 bigwigs xrs xraidstatus? |
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| 00:48.37 | gezr | I had to disable to AOI libs in order to get to be able to use any of the game function keys including the escape key, im just wondering |
| 00:49.10 | Seracht | anyone getting errors with the latest oRA2 17492? |
| 00:50.43 | CIA-17 | 03dahn * r17822 10DKPmonInit/ (7 files in 2 dirs): DKPmonInit: initial import |
| 00:52.29 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r17823 10FuBar_TrackerFu/ (. FuBar_TrackerFu.toc): |
| 00:52.29 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TrackerFu |
| 00:52.29 | CIA-17 | - modified toc, set keywords |
| 00:56.27 | CIA-17 | 03dahn * r17824 10DKPmonInit/Libs/: DKPmonInit: setting externals |
| 00:57.45 | gezr | hmm, was just told that turning ora2 buffs off should clear some of it up....I dont know, im here asking as well |
| 00:58.06 | Seracht | oh |
| 00:58.09 | Seracht | how do I turn it off |
| 00:58.12 | Seracht | I am new to this mod |
| 00:58.17 | CIA-17 | 03dahn * r17825 10Bidder/ (Bidder.toc Libs/): Bidder: setting externals, fix TOC category typo |
| 00:58.23 | ag` | if the current revision doesn't work, then use the earlier one |
| 00:58.34 | ag` | it's not rocket science :) |
| 00:58.43 | CIA-17 | 03funkydude * r17826 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Maexxna.lua: |
| 00:58.43 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Naxx/Maexxna: Enrage Change: |
| 00:58.43 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.43 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.43 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.43 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.45 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.06 | Seracht | but how about other mods |
| 00:59.08 | CIA-17 | 03dahn * r17827 10DKPmon/Libs/: DKPmon: adding externals |
| 00:59.10 | Seracht | ag` like XRS |
| 00:59.18 | ag` | do the same |
| 00:59.19 | Seracht | and squishy, will those have to be downgraded too |
| 00:59.23 | ag` | us an earlier revision |
| 01:01.01 | Seracht | thanks thought they would be independent |
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| 01:01.16 | XLVII | I need help fixing something.. FuBar doesn't really 'center' anything, it's pretty much to the left.. |
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| 01:02.04 | Seracht | lol |
| 01:02.07 | Seracht | now I get another error |
| 01:02.14 | Seracht | Library Ace2.0 doesn't exist |
| 01:02.35 | Fwip | XLVII: Do you have the 'attach' setting of Fubar set to detach? |
| 01:02.35 | ckknight | that's not a library. |
| 01:02.52 | XLVII | No. |
| 01:04.50 | Fwip | XLVII: Did you try grabbing the edge of the bar and stretching it? I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, I'm kinda guessing |
| 01:09.56 | mjc | woot I just took out 15 murlocs in one go w/ dots. |
| 01:10.05 | mjc | all +3 levels from me |
| 01:10.19 | mjc | 2hp left at the end, but he |
| 01:10.19 | mjc | y |
| 01:10.26 | mjc | didn'tsay it was easy! |
| 01:11.37 | kergoth | /bin/ls|sed -e's,_,\\_,g; s, ,_,g'|for i in `cat`; do d="`echo $i|sed -e's,\([^\\\\]\)_,\1 ,g; s,\\\\_,_,g'`"; du -s "$d"; done|sort -nr|awk '{print $2}'|sed -e's,_,\\_,g; s, ,_,g'|for i in `cat`; do d="`echo $i|sed -e's,\([^\\\\]\)_,\1 ,g; s,\\\\_,_,g'`"; du -sh "$d"; done |
| 01:11.39 | kergoth | i love shell. |
| 01:12.36 | kergoth | hrm, not quite right |
| 01:12.37 | [Cu]Werik | omg |
| 01:12.50 | mjc | be nice if fear were an instant |
| 01:12.58 | Funkeh` | ok so how do i get the cool circular tab thing in CIA? :P |
| 01:14.23 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:15.04 | mjc | <3 cannibalize |
| 01:15.24 | kergoth | sad that the above shell tidbit only does something so stuipd and simple |
| 01:15.30 | kergoth | a sorted du -sh |
| 01:15.47 | [Cu]Werik | It's a hell of an ugly line |
| 01:15.53 | mjc | heh |
| 01:15.54 | Funkeh` | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace |
| 01:16.03 | Funkeh` | the fancy tabs :P |
| 01:16.47 | kergoth | ? its just css.. |
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| 01:17.11 | mjc | ugh |
| 01:17.18 | mjc | murlocs are hard as fuck |
| 01:17.25 | kergoth | jesus, my tbc dir is 7.5 gigs? |
| 01:17.28 | kergoth | i need another drive |
| 01:19.07 | Funkeh` | no i mean when you commit, how do you get it to dispay |
| 01:19.10 | Funkeh` | display* |
| 01:19.19 | Funkeh` | i thought it was * but that just comes out as * :P |
| 01:19.27 | ckknight | kergoth, that does seem excessive... |
| 01:21.04 | kergoth | you can do a du -s|sort -n, but then its in bytes, not pretty printed. if you use sort to try tos ort the pretty printed, then 300K > 20M. |
| 01:21.18 | kergoth | should just do a small python or perl script to sort andpretty print it |
| 01:22.00 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r17828 10/branches/AutoBar/ (18 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:22.00 | CIA-17 | .AutoBar |
| 01:22.00 | CIA-17 | -TBC alpha |
| 01:25.17 | XLVII | How can I *perfectly* center something? |
| 01:25.58 | kergoth | foo:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 0, 0) -- no? |
| 01:26.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:26.34 | [Cu]Werik | What about du -sh|sort -n? |
| 01:26.42 | [Cu]Werik | it's not in bytes then:P |
| 01:27.10 | kergoth | .. |
| 01:27.15 | kergoth | if you use sort to try tos ort the pretty printed, then 300K > 20M. |
| 01:27.31 | kergoth | sort -n is numeric, doesnt account for the postfix |
| 01:27.35 | CIA-17 | 03evilelvis * r17829 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: fixed background color bug; some internal changes |
| 01:27.39 | [Cu]Werik | mm |
| 01:28.17 | kergoth | you'd think itd be a common enough thing that the gnu sort maintainer would add a built in sort function |
| 01:28.18 | kergoth | but whatever |
| 01:28.32 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 01:30.06 | [Cu]Werik | Actually, I'm pretty sure there is a simplier solution for this. But I don't know what. |
| 01:30.18 | Tain | Drink until you don't care. |
| 01:30.46 | XLVII | Does XRaid work for parties too? |
| 01:37.20 | Funkeh` | can i just say i LOVE raid colours |
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| 01:37.42 | Funkeh` | in cart :P |
| 01:37.42 | Tain | I want to see The Fountain. It's not getting very good reviews, but I still want to. |
| 01:38.04 | ckknight | Funkeh`, :-) |
| 01:38.12 | ckknight | finally someone shows gratitude |
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| 01:41.30 | ckknight | glad you like it |
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| 01:44.08 | Funkeh` | it truly rocks tbh :P |
| 01:44.33 | Funkeh` | its what the default map should ahve always been like |
| 01:44.41 | Tain | I'm not sure what's worse. The fact that I went to the grocery store after work, got home, started cooking and realized I was low on flour and had to go back out to the grocery store... |
| 01:44.55 | Tain | OR the fact that I got back home, kept cooking, and had enough flour in the first place. |
| 01:44.57 | ckknight | Funkeh`, hehe, essentially |
| 01:45.32 | XLVII | Does XRaid work for parties too? |
| 01:47.19 | ckknight | Funkeh`, can you think of anything else cool to add? |
| 01:48.19 | Funkeh` | ckknight: hard, its pretty perfet tbh :P |
| 01:48.36 | ckknight | nothing is ever perfect |
| 01:48.44 | Funkeh` | apart from loot tables like atlasloot :P |
| 01:49.03 | ckknight | I'm leaving that to someone else |
| 01:49.10 | Funkeh` | well, you might wanna actually print some mob info on teh actual instance map. maybe boss locations |
| 01:49.37 | Funkeh` | but apart from that kind of thing theres nothing 'different' i can think of like raidcolours |
| 01:51.04 | ckknight | I don't want to taint the maps |
| 01:51.08 | ckknight | that should be up to the notes, imho. |
| 01:53.13 | Funkeh` | hmm, maybe :P |
| 01:53.45 | Funkeh` | but other than that good work, i remember trying it when you first released it, its really come along way since then :P |
| 01:54.17 | ckknight | yep :-) |
| 01:54.23 | ckknight | and it's still pretty damn efficient. |
| 01:55.52 | Funkeh` | regarding efficiency you could go 1 step further and make the modules LoD tied to whether you have it on or not :) |
| 01:56.02 | Gngsk | anyone happen to know the name of blizz' ToT frame off hand? |
| 01:56.12 | mjc | brb |
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| 01:56.26 | ckknight | Funkeh`, yea, I know, that's for later. |
| 01:56.34 | ckknight | I want to get it feature-complete first |
| 01:56.42 | ckknight | then the modules will become addons in their own right |
| 01:56.49 | Funkeh` | ckknight: something to do when your looking for something to do =P |
| 01:56.50 | ckknight | LoD and everything |
| 01:59.18 | Funkeh` | im really liking LoD now, its made a nice impact on oRA2 and BigWigs. not so muhc on oRA2, but considering i only really raid naxx the other BigWigs modules can just sit there unloaded jsut in case :) |
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| 02:00.20 | Funkeh` | its such a waste having something you dont want loaded :P |
| 02:14.29 | XLVII | I'm about to make a Rogue -- Orc, Troll or Undead? It'll mostly be for raiding, but I still want to own in Battlegrounds. |
| 02:14.58 | Gngsk | blood elf |
| 02:16.53 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r17830 10FuBar_TrackerFu/FuBar_TrackerFu.toc: |
| 02:16.53 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TrackerFu |
| 02:16.53 | CIA-17 | - readded FuBar dependency, otherwise LoadOnDemand won't work. sorry ;) |
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| 02:22.13 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r17831 10Prat/modules/PopupMessage.lua: Prat: reduce drama |
| 02:22.56 | XLVII | Is there a website somewhere that lets me look at Armor Sets without the Helmet on, and change the hair, skin color and features? |
| 02:25.29 | sbu_ | uhm - modelviewer? |
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| 02:38.55 | Nargiddley | I just tracked down where the taint was coming from causing my pet bar to not show sometimes |
| 02:39.03 | Nargiddley | hooking CloseWindows will cause it |
| 02:40.14 | Nargiddley | hooking CloseSpecialWindows seems to achieve the same result, but doesnt cause the taint to spread |
| 02:49.27 | kergoth | christ partition moves/resizes take a long time |
| 02:49.32 | kergoth | 2 hours left on just this part of it |
| 02:54.12 | Kalamad1 | Does Paladin's Improved Seal of Righteousness (Holy Tier 2) work after +damage in beta? |
| 02:57.12 | Funkeh` | any way to chance cartographer frame strata? its apearing behind ag_UF |
| 02:57.21 | Funkeh` | change* |
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| 03:06.55 | Tem | Nargiddley, hooking some of the frame management's code would be a candidate for a secure hook |
| 03:07.25 | Nargiddley | all the addons i've seen do it change the return value, stops the menu from opening when they get closed |
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| 03:09.25 | Nargiddley | CloseSpecialWindows is securecalled from in CloseWindows. Not sure how good it is to hook it, but it allows you to get the same behaviour without spreading taint |
| 03:10.53 | Tem | ah no |
| 03:11.05 | Tem | go the normal hook route if it's securecalled |
| 03:11.42 | Tem | avoid using hooksecurefunc unless you really need it |
| 03:11.57 | Nargiddley | what i'm meaning, is addons that hook CloseWindows atm, can change to CloseSpecialWindows to keep the same behaviour. at least 2 of the ones i use do it |
| 03:24.36 | Kalamad1 | Hmm. Is it possible to make a sort of HUD? |
| 03:24.39 | Kalamad1 | Er. |
| 03:24.47 | Kalamad1 | With arrows pointing towards your party members |
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| 03:27.42 | Tekkub | http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=richard_feynman_perceived_letters_in_col&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1&ref=rss |
| 03:27.45 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 03:29.25 | Funkeh` | nn folks ;p |
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| 03:34.40 | Tekkub | http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2006/11/gay_sex_breaks_.html |
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| 04:14.57 | zoktar | anyone know a lightwaight ingame mp3 player |
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| 04:27.31 | anenigma | zoktar: why ingame? |
| 04:27.38 | anenigma | why not just run something in the background? |
| 04:27.47 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r17832 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer - fix locals koKR |
| 04:31.44 | Kemayo | ~BottomFeeder |
| 04:31.53 | zoktar | well |
| 04:32.00 | Kemayo | Damn you, purl! |
| 04:32.01 | zoktar | id rather change song ingame than alt tab |
| 04:32.09 | zoktar | doesnt have to be a "player" |
| 04:35.04 | CIA-17 | 03evilelvis * r17833 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: added gradient functionality |
| 04:35.09 | Azurewrath | it's not possible to communicate with external applications |
| 04:35.21 | Azurewrath | just use windowed mode, better anyway :) |
| 04:35.45 | Kemayo | zoktar: Buy a mac. :) |
| 04:35.48 | Tekkub | get a media keyboard, $20 at walmart |
| 04:35.52 | anenigma | zoktar: aah. media keyboard ftw ::) |
| 04:35.55 | anenigma | or keyboard shortcuts |
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| 04:42.20 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:42.21 | Tekkub | hrm... is it possible to make the same install of WoW run with two different Interface/WTF paths? |
| 04:42.36 | Tekkub | that way I can keep me and my hubbie's addons seperate at work |
| 04:42.40 | anenigma | paths, don't think so |
| 04:42.45 | anenigma | but set up scripts to move em? |
| 04:43.01 | Tekkub | moving is an icky solution |
| 04:43.13 | anenigma | posibly your only solution tho |
| 04:43.18 | Silviu- | copy game in another folder ? :) |
| 04:43.28 | Tekkub | just as icky :P |
| 04:43.33 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 04:43.39 | Tekkub | okey, guess I'll go the external drive route |
| 04:43.47 | Tekkub | besides it's cheaper than an iPod |
| 04:44.12 | Xuerian | zoktar: Don't use the wow player, it sucks. Use Foobar2000, it has global shortcuts for -everything- that work inside fullscreen games, it plays better than the ingame player, and it's lighter than almost every other windows audio player |
| 04:45.26 | Tekkub | almost? |
| 04:45.33 | Tekkub | I've not found a single one that's lighter |
| 04:46.03 | Tekkub | tha was my main goal... I was sick of media apps that pull 10MiB Memory and 90MB VM |
| 04:46.06 | Xuerian | I allow for a margin of error :P |
| 04:46.16 | Xuerian | Even if one doesn't exist <.< |
| 04:46.43 | Tekkub | my ffob, running for weeks now... 12664K Mem, 11412K VM :) |
| 04:46.53 | Tekkub | *foob |
| 04:47.23 | Xuerian | I run my 8.3 a little heavy, but it's still quieter than anything around :P |
| 04:47.54 | Amadeo | Winamp in basic skin mode is still pretty lightweight, too |
| 04:48.09 | Amadeo | a while back it was lighter than foobar2000, but I haven't compared as of late |
| 04:48.20 | Tekkub | even on the VM end? |
| 04:48.26 | Amadeo | not sure on that |
| 04:48.38 | Tekkub | so many programs look light but in fact use a shitton of VM |
| 04:48.42 | Amadeo | then again, I don't use playlists either, so...not sure :) |
| 04:48.50 | Tekkub | cause the taskman doesn't show VM by default |
| 04:49.01 | Amadeo | where can you see VM use per app? |
| 04:49.01 | Tekkub | yet the lovely graph includes VM in it |
| 04:49.21 | Tekkub | Processes, customize the columns |
| 04:49.30 | Arrowmaster | graph? |
| 04:49.40 | Tekkub | no playlists here... entire library on album-shuffle |
| 04:49.48 | Amadeo | oh wow, I never knew that |
| 04:50.03 | Amadeo | Firefox is using 61MB.. |
| 04:50.25 | Tekkub | Perpormance, second graph is "PF Usage" |
| 04:51.26 | Amadeo | yeah check that out |
| 04:51.29 | Amadeo | 25MB VM on Winamp, wtf |
| 04:51.41 | Amadeo | only using 2MB for RAM |
| 04:51.48 | Tekkub | EXACTLY |
| 04:51.49 | chuckg | Is it minimized? |
| 04:51.51 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 04:51.54 | Amadeo | I know |
| 04:51.58 | Amadeo | but I don't watch it while I play music |
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| 04:52.09 | chuckg | fooBar only uses 3.8megs for me. |
| 04:52.10 | kergoth | that reminds me, i need to set up foobar2k now that i'm back in windows |
| 04:52.11 | Amadeo | 4MB when it's open |
| 04:52.13 | chuckg | I love me my fb2k. |
| 04:52.20 | Tekkub | turn on the PF Delta column too, it's fun |
| 04:52.22 | chuckg | Try the library Ama. |
| 04:52.25 | Amadeo | well screw that, 25MB vm |
| 04:52.27 | chuckg | Watch winamp jump to 50mb's. |
| 04:52.34 | Amadeo | hah |
| 04:52.40 | Amadeo | I use new audio apps all the time |
| 04:52.40 | Arrowmaster | ive never found the windows perfomance stats to be accurate |
| 04:52.43 | Tekkub | since the actual paging is what make VM so slow, you can see what's paging a bunch |
| 04:52.44 | Amadeo | I'm never satified |
| 04:52.46 | chuckg | fb2k is m yvery essence. |
| 04:52.57 | Amadeo | I should test them all over again now with this data! |
| 04:53.05 | Tekkub | like leave an app minimized and go play wow and shit, then come back to the app |
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| 04:53.09 | kergoth | took me a while to get mine happy. fb2k is so configurable, had to steal bits from like 5 people's configs |
| 04:53.13 | kergoth | reminds me of when i set up my vim |
| 04:53.19 | Tekkub | it'll spike PF cause it was paged out :) |
| 04:53.19 | chuckg | Yea Kerg. |
| 04:53.20 | Arrowmaster | ill add up all the memory usages and it will be under half my total ram but really im at almost max ram usage |
| 04:53.24 | Tekkub | I need more RAM... |
| 04:53.31 | chuckg | People who say "fb2k doesn't look good" crack me up. |
| 04:53.35 | chuckg | It's whatever you want it to be. |
| 04:53.36 | chuckg | Even winamp! |
| 04:53.37 | kergoth | yeah no kidding |
| 04:53.38 | Amadeo | haha |
| 04:53.42 | kergoth | i tried the winamp layout once |
| 04:53.46 | kergoth | reminded me of why i dont use winamp |
| 04:53.46 | Tekkub | yes... BACKUP YOU FOOB CONFIG! |
| 04:53.48 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 04:53.52 | chuckg | I opt for the most basic setup possible. |
| 04:54.01 | kergoth | i require a few basics |
| 04:54.04 | kergoth | i like album art display |
| 04:54.06 | Kemayo | I like columns. |
| 04:54.10 | chuckg | I'm not a big album art guy. |
| 04:54.13 | chuckg | I never have my window visible. |
| 04:54.14 | kergoth | i require replaygain |
| 04:54.16 | chuckg | Why have art rendering? |
| 04:54.18 | kergoth | replaygain is a godsend |
| 04:54.24 | chuckg | Replaygain is standard now. |
| 04:54.30 | kergoth | thank goodness |
| 04:54.34 | Tekkub | I just want a nice simple album art and a playlist view that gives me album/artist, track/artist |
| 04:54.37 | chuckg | Though I don't use it that often. |
| 04:54.39 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub, ive got a gig and i only rarely run into situations where its all used, but i can never figure out whats using it all when that happens |
| 04:54.39 | Amadeo | ok, test number two is...XMplay |
| 04:54.44 | kergoth | about a year ago i was heavy into audio and video stuff |
| 04:54.47 | kergoth | ubernet.org ftw |
| 04:54.54 | kergoth | private file sharing network with -really- stringent standards |
| 04:55.01 | kergoth | requires logs of your rip that match their standard |
| 04:55.02 | kergoth | among other things |
| 04:55.04 | chuckg | fb2k is for you then, Tekkub. |
| 04:55.12 | kergoth | but the entire network is filled with the high quality rips as a result |
| 04:55.13 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 04:55.14 | Tekkub | I have a gig, but I usually get WoW and foob and xchat and gtalk and firefox and chattage and.... |
| 04:55.16 | chuckg | It can be the simplest thing right out of the box. |
| 04:55.17 | Tekkub | all at once |
| 04:55.21 | kergoth | need 50 ripped cds per the standard to get full access |
| 04:55.28 | Tekkub | I can't bring myself to close shit when I WoW |
| 04:55.33 | Arrowmaster | lol same |
| 04:55.34 | chuckg | But fb2k is all about good tagging. |
| 04:55.39 | chuckg | If your shit isn't tagged right, it's hell. |
| 04:55.39 | Tekkub | and that's the only time memory's an issue |
| 04:55.42 | kergoth | thats why i like ubernet |
| 04:55.46 | Arrowmaster | i also keep way to many browser tabs open |
| 04:55.47 | kergoth | if your caps are wrong, they wont let you in |
| 04:55.54 | Tekkub | Musicbrainz! |
| 04:55.55 | chuckg | Firefox is shit for tab memory usage. |
| 04:55.59 | chuckg | That's why I use opera. |
| 04:56.05 | kergoth | 2.0 seems to have improved a bit in that regard |
| 04:56.09 | kergoth | still quirky though |
| 04:56.12 | kergoth | need a bugfix release |
| 04:56.15 | chuckg | Had it open for 3 days straight and it was only 129mb's. |
| 04:56.21 | chuckg | Left firefox open a day and it was pushing 300mb. |
| 04:56.22 | Tekkub | yea I don't have to reboot FF2 much |
| 04:56.27 | Arrowmaster | i still use mozilla (now 'seamonkey') |
| 04:56.28 | Amadeo | I have 2.4MB Mem and 6.6MB VM going for XMplay, one song playing |
| 04:56.35 | Tekkub | FF1.5 liked to not give up memory when you close a tab |
| 04:56.37 | Amadeo | I don't have enough songs for a playlist test |
| 04:56.44 | kergoth | i need to get my fileserver out here |
| 04:56.49 | chuckg | FF1.5 also rendered shit in the background, tabs you weren't even watching. |
| 04:56.49 | kergoth | its still back in minnesota |
| 04:56.56 | kergoth | 30,000 ubernet quality songs |
| 04:57.04 | kergoth | i've been suffering music withdrawls |
| 04:57.06 | kergoth | :P |
| 04:57.09 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 04:57.25 | Tekkub | I've been suffering good new music withdrawls |
| 04:57.36 | Tekkub | I gave up on radio completely |
| 04:57.42 | kergoth | xm isnt bad for that |
| 04:57.47 | kergoth | some decent stations |
| 04:57.52 | chuckg | 2,057 albums, 15,498 songs. That's my 'sorted' directory. |
| 04:57.56 | Tekkub | and pandora is nice but I can't seem to get myself creating nice ne stations |
| 04:58.03 | chuckg | Have half again that in unsorted shit. |
| 04:58.13 | kergoth | i like last.fm, but half the time its recommending some oddball shit |
| 04:58.21 | kergoth | course considering i listen to everything, half of what i listen to -is- oddball shit |
| 04:58.21 | chuckg | I love that about it :) |
| 04:58.24 | kergoth | so i guess that makes sense |
| 04:58.26 | Tekkub | every time I go no make a new station I just draw a blank |
| 04:58.46 | chuckg | What type of music do you genearlly listen to Tekkub? |
| 04:58.59 | Tekkub | ambient techno for the most |
| 04:59.07 | Tekkub | cause I can trow it on endless looping |
| 04:59.15 | chuckg | Give me some favorite artists. |
| 04:59.20 | Tekkub | but I'll listen to a wide range of stuff |
| 04:59.32 | kergoth | random play on my collection is amusing |
| 04:59.38 | Tekkub | Sarah Mclachlan, Tori Amos, Bruce Cockburn... |
| 04:59.47 | Tekkub | Paul Oakenfold |
| 04:59.58 | kergoth | its like.. johnny cash... apocalyptica, megadeth, kmfdm, dj sammy, beethoven's 5th |
| 05:00.01 | chuckg | Listen to Sasha? |
| 05:00.02 | kergoth | breaks my head |
| 05:00.05 | chuckg | Emmerson? |
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| 05:00.58 | Tekkub | Moby, Emya, Apocalyptica |
| 05:00.58 | Tekkub | see, right there an odd range like kergy :) |
| 05:00.59 | chuckg | Orbital, Four Tet, Boards of Canada, Underworld. |
| 05:00.59 | chuckg | Try thos. |
| 05:00.59 | Tekkub | sasha is playing now :) |
| 05:00.59 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:00.59 | Tekkub | orb yes, UW yes |
| 05:00.59 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:01.13 | kergoth | i want a plugin for foobar that can handle not just genre, but mood, and make intelligent judgements based on them |
| 05:01.22 | kergoth | distance between points in a graph of mood relations |
| 05:01.29 | kergoth | since what i listen to is more about my moods than genre |
| 05:01.36 | Tekkub | moodlogic eh? |
| 05:01.43 | kergoth | i want to say "hey, i'm in the mood for something dark, play it!" |
| 05:01.46 | chuckg | Make a tag field to establish mood. |
| 05:01.51 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.53 | chuckg | Not unlike delicious. |
| 05:02.02 | kergoth | yeah, making the tag is easy, writing the plugin to actually do something sane with it .. :) |
| 05:02.03 | chuckg | Then write a plugin to sample any which match those tags. |
| 05:02.08 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r17834 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: Skinner: update locals for koKR |
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| 05:02.17 | chuckg | But that's just an odd way of doing a playlist. |
| 05:02.20 | kergoth | there are related moods though, what i want to listen to is fuzzy |
| 05:02.26 | Tekkub | music SOOOO needls tags instead of this genre bullshit |
| 05:02.31 | kergoth | i need a network of moods with weights on the branches |
| 05:02.33 | Tekkub | genres are just useless |
| 05:02.39 | chuckg | I stick to big ones. |
| 05:02.51 | kergoth | one of hte music sites i used to go to has mood |
| 05:02.55 | chuckg | Electronic, Rock, Rock/Pop handles almost everything. |
| 05:02.55 | kergoth | allmusic or one of those |
| 05:02.56 | Tekkub | even across single albums genres often don't fit |
| 05:03.04 | chuckg | AMG? |
| 05:03.05 | chuckg | Yea. |
| 05:03.11 | kergoth | that doesnt work here, if i'm in a dark mood that can easily cross genres |
| 05:03.15 | Arrowmaster | i so hate the plain 'Rock' genre |
| 05:03.16 | chuckg | It gives general genre then splits it up. |
| 05:03.29 | Arrowmaster | theres some rock i love, and others i hate |
| 05:03.30 | chuckg | What would you put "Chevelle" under though? |
| 05:03.32 | chuckg | There's no other category. |
| 05:03.47 | Kalamad1 | What would you put The Decemberists under? |
| 05:03.50 | Tekkub | hehe, I think I'd prolly end up tagging half my tori amos stuff as emo |
| 05:03.54 | kergoth | i want weights on tags too. this is 8.75 rock etc |
| 05:03.55 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 05:04.06 | kergoth | but learned through user input |
| 05:04.08 | Kalamad1 | The Sliding Scale of Badassitude. |
| 05:04.22 | Xuerian | I heard mention of actually using taskman... why? |
| 05:04.26 | chuckg | Indie/Pop. |
| 05:04.26 | Tekkub | keurgy, I've so wanted a nice weighting system to adjust my random play |
| 05:04.28 | Xuerian | Why not procex? o_0 |
| 05:04.29 | kergoth | "no no foobar, this is harder than that other thing, and .." |
| 05:04.34 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 05:04.44 | Tekkub | there's an idea.. you set your current mood |
| 05:04.52 | Arrowmaster | this is 'newage pansy rock' and this is 'old school hard rock' |
| 05:04.56 | Kalamad1 | kergoth: Well, I suppose you *could* make a plugin for foobar2000 |
| 05:05.03 | Tekkub | as shit plays you give a simple yes/no and it bumps the weight up or down a tad |
| 05:05.14 | Tekkub | start at say 5.0 and increment by .5 |
| 05:05.18 | kergoth | yes, exactly tek, thats the kind of thing i'd like to see |
| 05:05.26 | kergoth | would think itd be pretty simple to set up really |
| 05:05.28 | chuckg | Too much work. |
| 05:05.31 | chuckg | Playlists! |
| 05:05.32 | kergoth | just take a while to learn |
| 05:05.33 | Xuerian | I thought there was a plugin that did that already o.0 |
| 05:05.41 | Tekkub | if you say no it'll random skip to a new track and that old track is slightly less likly to play again in this mood |
| 05:05.43 | kergoth | i've seen plugins for that sort of thing, but i havent seen a decent one |
| 05:06.01 | chuckg | Oh Tekkub: Sia |
| 05:06.02 | kergoth | not unlike the weighting of branches in a neural network |
| 05:06.07 | Tekkub | or do it per-album instead of er-track |
| 05:06.13 | chuckg | Give her a try, it's the same singer from Zero 7. |
| 05:06.15 | Tekkub | cause I alway listen to complete albums |
| 05:06.15 | Xuerian | I'd settle for one that didn't play 20% of the tracks 80% of the time. |
| 05:06.25 | Tekkub | yea kergy |
| 05:06.33 | Tekkub | the info could be stored in tags too |
| 05:06.39 | Tekkub | *ideas* |
| 05:06.42 | kergoth | yup |
| 05:06.42 | Arrowmaster | most the time i just put my player on full archive shuffle and just press next a LOT |
| 05:06.47 | Tekkub | I might have to look into this more |
| 05:06.55 | kergoth | we could use the exact same system for both genres and moods |
| 05:07.03 | kergoth | and possibly other systems of grouping |
| 05:07.10 | Tekkub | arrow, me too but it's shuffle by album |
| 05:07.26 | Tekkub | so it doesn't break an album up, but if I hit random a new album starts |
| 05:07.39 | Kalamad1 | So, wait. If any of you were to make this a plugin to a media player, which would it be? |
| 05:07.50 | Tekkub | yea, I like it you just have a simple dropdown in the player |
| 05:07.59 | Tekkub | you select it before you start rating shit |
| 05:08.07 | Tekkub | or if you want a certain type of music |
| 05:08.13 | kergoth | i used this little player for quite a while |
| 05:08.14 | kergoth | http://www.uberview.org/ |
| 05:08.19 | kergoth | http://www.uberview.org/images/ss_L.jpg |
| 05:08.22 | kergoth | dead simple |
| 05:08.51 | Tekkub | Kalamad1, foobar |
| 05:09.10 | Kalamad1 | <3 |
| 05:09.22 | Kalamad1 | However, it would be much easier if foobar wasn't missing a certain feature |
| 05:09.39 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 05:09.41 | Kalamad1 | The ability to specify your own playback order |
| 05:10.09 | Tekkub | well... the only thing is somhow adapting the random play I guess |
| 05:10.32 | Kalamad1 | Right. Adjusting the random seed to the probabilities of certain songs in your list |
| 05:10.43 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 05:10.46 | kergoth | thats surprising, a plugin doesnt have that control? |
| 05:11.00 | Tekkub | don't know |
| 05:11.04 | Kalamad1 | Not that I am immediately aware of. It's possible, however; I don't know that much. |
| 05:11.47 | kergoth | as flexible as it is, if it iisnt easily done i'm sure we could get the devs to let us do it |
| 05:11.49 | kergoth | extend the api |
| 05:12.10 | Kalamad1 | It's not located in the config anywhere, while media library sorts are... I'm sure it's not too much of a stretch. |
| 05:12.32 | kergoth | i've never done much windows coding, other than playing around with the windows memory mapping stuff |
| 05:13.54 | kergoth | ah nice, this looks straightforward |
| 05:14.13 | Tekkub | have I inspired kergy-lead revolution? |
| 05:15.12 | kergoth | perhaps, this has been in the back of my head for a number of years now |
| 05:15.21 | Tekkub | :) |
| 05:15.32 | kergoth | along with other things like a drink database with a similar comm protocol to imdb/cddb |
| 05:15.38 | kergoth | which would be slick with a client on a pda |
| 05:15.48 | kergoth | bartender, give me this. if you dont know how to make it, _here_ |
| 05:15.59 | Tekkub | heh |
| 05:16.13 | kergoth | with a rating system and other fun stuff, entirely open |
| 05:16.14 | Tekkub | the hubby's got on this kick of wanting to mix us drinks |
| 05:16.21 | Kalamad1 | kergoth: I'll be willing to help you test out your system |
| 05:16.24 | Tekkub | mostly variations of mudslides |
| 05:16.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:16.31 | kergoth | mmm mudslide |
| 05:16.32 | haarm | mmm, some advice |
| 05:16.42 | Kalamad1 | kergoth: I've got a pretty expansive collection of music, I'll give it a run for its money |
| 05:16.51 | Antiarc | http://youtube.com/watch?v=HnyXNS0MJaA - Bugged rampage is fun as hell. |
| 05:17.05 | Tekkub | I'm slowly working thru my music and getting it tagged for good |
| 05:17.06 | kergoth | okay, first i need to get a development environment going in windows, and write up a rudamentary design |
| 05:17.12 | haarm | what would you do if you *somehow* gained access to the private part of a forum of another guild on your server, and see some of your members applied ;x |
| 05:17.16 | Tekkub | trying to force myself to do an album or two a day |
| 05:17.21 | kergoth | in parallel, i need to rip all the music i have here, since currently i dont have much |
| 05:17.51 | Kalamad1 | haarm: Make said members extremely paranoid, and get in contact with the other guild's leaders. |
| 05:18.02 | Tekkub | my idea of the UI... [Mood dropdown] [Thumb up] [Thumb Down] [Current rating] |
| 05:18.14 | Tekkub | options to rate per track or per album |
| 05:18.20 | Goeb | haarm- it's pretty standard policy for any guild I've been in to immediately kick them... tho I'd prefer they at least got a chance to explain themselves, honestly, why bother |
| 05:18.30 | Tekkub | option to auto-skip/auto-random if you rate down |
| 05:18.37 | Amadeo | Antiarc: I saw a few videos like that, but the damage doesn't seem that out of line to me..considering what I've seen from other classes |
| 05:18.43 | Tekkub | and option for how much to change weights by when rating |
| 05:18.54 | haarm | yea but how do I explain I came to know :p |
| 05:18.56 | kergoth | ooh, a foobar plugin for sid files |
| 05:20.29 | Antiarc | Amadeo: My warrior is geared in utter crap gear |
| 05:20.29 | Antiarc | I have 3 MC epics |
| 05:20.29 | Antiarc | ZG bracers |
| 05:20.29 | Antiarc | Lionheart helm |
| 05:20.29 | Kalamad1 | kergoth: What about a keybinding for rating up/down a song, along with a logrithmic scale for quickly establishing a "mood library"? |
| 05:20.29 | Antiarc | The rest are blues and greens |
| 05:20.33 | Amadeo | Antiarc: Is that your Warrior? |
| 05:20.35 | Tekkub | Antiarc, my hunter is like 3 pieces of T1, 2 zandalar and a decend ZG bow :P |
| 05:20.37 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 05:20.40 | Amadeo | ah nice |
| 05:20.51 | Kalamad1 | Then using a bit of assumption alongside the unrated album when rating the song up/down |
| 05:21.02 | Amadeo | Antiarc: A low 60's Mage insta-Pyro'd me for 4900 the other day |
| 05:21.09 | Kalamad1 | Just to *quickly* establish a library. |
| 05:21.12 | Antiarc | That ridiculous. |
| 05:21.17 | Antiarc | Probably trinketed, though. |
| 05:21.20 | Tekkub | hrm... maybe instead of storing a weight you just store "-3"... that'd be 3 thumbsdown votes |
| 05:21.34 | Tekkub | then the engine can change that into a weight |
| 05:22.09 | Kalamad1 | Aye, something like that |
| 05:22.23 | haarm | ok, didn't read it all, but, Kalamad1, wouldn't that have a problem that, while they might all be songs you like, they may not all be the same "mood |
| 05:22.25 | Kalamad1 | I was thinking- if you're on your first song with this new handler, and you rate the song +3 |
| 05:22.25 | Tekkub | that way you can adapt settings and apply them to your old votes |
| 05:22.32 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r17835 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: |
| 05:22.32 | CIA-17 | FuBar_QuestsFu: Get rid of hardcoded default tracker position. This will almost |
| 05:22.32 | CIA-17 | certainly make your tracker disappear if you've adjusted its position. Reset it |
| 05:22.32 | CIA-17 | by typing: "/script QuestsFu.db.profile.tracker_data = {}", then reload your UI. |
| 05:22.44 | Xuerian | On another note, foo_scheduler for 0.9! Woo, one step closer... |
| 05:22.52 | Kalamad1 | haarm: I know. As you cycle through your collection, individual songs are given more weight. |
| 05:22.56 | Tekkub | haarm, ratings would be stored per mood |
| 05:23.02 | haarm | ok :) |
| 05:23.04 | Tekkub | like how pandora does stations |
| 05:23.15 | Kalamad1 | Do you have any idea how long it would take for me to rate my entire music collection by mood? |
| 05:23.27 | Tekkub | you set a mood, start playing, and rate things up and down |
| 05:23.41 | Tekkub | Kalamad1, it's perpetual :) |
| 05:23.45 | haarm | sorry, just had to butt in with a random thought, if I don't let one slip out every now and then I may start leaking them from various orifices |
| 05:24.03 | Tekkub | your selections within moods might change over time too... you might rate something back up later |
| 05:24.10 | Tekkub | that you'd rated down before |
| 05:24.10 | Kalamad1 | If I listened to my music and rated every single file? Making the library would take many, many months. So we have to assume some data. |
| 05:24.30 | haarm | you'd rate it as you played, and you would be playing it.. over many many months :D |
| 05:24.39 | Tekkub | I'd use per-album ratings personally |
| 05:24.47 | Tekkub | but again, that's my listening style |
| 05:24.56 | Kalamad1 | Tekkub: Originally, that'll work for a quick organization. |
| 05:25.25 | Kalamad1 | But some albums have vastly different songs on it, so take that into consideration. |
| 05:25.28 | Tekkub | I'm not seeing moods as a preset thing here... |
| 05:25.44 | Tekkub | this is more of a "I'm pissed off right now, don't play this shit" |
| 05:25.51 | Tuller | there's a mood setting for pandora? |
| 05:26.02 | Tekkub | Tuller, |
| 05:26.06 | Tekkub | you are SLOW |
| 05:26.08 | Tekkub | :) |
| 05:26.11 | Kalamad1 | I vote for nostalgia! |
| 05:26.16 | Tekkub | we're talking about Foobar |
| 05:26.21 | kergoth | Kalamad1, what i'd suggest is that as you input information about genre and mood, it makes sane associations amongst them. while some genres cross moods, most stick to a certain few |
| 05:26.28 | kergoth | Kalamad1, that sort of thing |
| 05:26.50 | Kalamad1 | However, my music is (by far) not tagged by genre. |
| 05:26.50 | Tekkub | assuming you use genres and have them set :) |
| 05:26.58 | Amadeo | wow, this audio player is really cool |
| 05:27.13 | kergoth | make reasonable assumptions about "similar" music. now, you could go crazy far and use those other systems that actually analyze the content to try to find smiilar music, but thats really more complex than i'd want it to get |
| 05:27.21 | Kalamad1 | Aye |
| 05:27.23 | Tuller | you said, "I like how pandora does stations", followed by "you set a mood, start playing, and rate things up and down", so I got them mixed up :) |
| 05:27.31 | Tekkub | I think "Antisocial" would be my prevailing mood... |
| 05:27.35 | haarm | hmm, what about... how you rate adjacent songs, you could learn moods |
| 05:27.48 | Kalamad1 | haarm: Adjacent as in the same genre and/or album :P |
| 05:28.01 | kergoth | well, i could see inputting information about current and previous song as one possible data point |
| 05:28.08 | kergoth | this song is harder than that one, or more upbeat, or. |
| 05:28.09 | Tekkub | Tuller, pandro could be used for mood stations like this though :) |
| 05:28.18 | Tekkub | god pandy needs a standalone player |
| 05:28.18 | Kalamad1 | So, wait. |
| 05:28.21 | Kalamad1 | I have an idea. |
| 05:28.25 | Tekkub | I fucking hate that flash thing |
| 05:28.58 | Tuller | I like to call the standalone player for pandora: Opera |
| 05:29.03 | haarm | dunno, was a random thought, but while you might like for example.. 3 songs, you might not like 2 of them together, so depending how you rate songs depending on what played before/after could establish some sort of pseudo-mood internally |
| 05:29.21 | Kalamad1 | You specify the parameters of a song - speed, hard, high-pitched, whatever. And then you have a mood wrapped which embraces these parameters. But that's complicated. |
| 05:29.23 | kergoth | what i foresee is a veritable neural network of nodes being moods and branches among them with weights, another network for genres, then relations between the two networks, and then in the files themselves weights of the nodes in the two networks |
| 05:29.27 | kergoth | if that makes any sense |
| 05:29.40 | Kalamad1 | I've spent my time with neural networks, go on. |
| 05:29.48 | Tekkub | makes sense to me kergy |
| 05:29.50 | Tekkub | :) |
| 05:30.01 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r17836 10Cartographer/Modules/ (AlphaScale.lua Notes.lua): |
| 05:30.01 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-AlphaScale - moved to HIGH instead of MEDIUM |
| 05:30.01 | CIA-17 | Cartographer-Notes - .creator is no longer needed for external databases. |
| 05:30.01 | CIA-17 | added :SetCustomNote(zone, x, y, "icon", "creator", ...) - ... is key-value pairs a la Dewdrop, "creator" must be an external database that overrides OnNoteMenuRequest and OnNoteTooltipRequest |
| 05:30.10 | Tekkub | so make it happen |
| 05:30.15 | Kalamad1 | kergoth: What do you think of the mood and song parameter layers? |
| 05:30.17 | Tekkub | going to go get the hubby |
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| 05:30.25 | Tekkub | I expect an alpha plugin when I return |
| 05:30.30 | kergoth | hold on, i need another beer |
| 05:30.34 | haarm | :P |
| 05:30.39 | Kalamad1 | I need to spin around in my chair. |
| 05:32.12 | haarm | Chair spinning should be an Olympic sport. |
| 05:32.12 | Tekkub | oh and a name.. since we're tasking moods and neural networks it needs "Neurotic" in it |
| 05:32.15 | kergoth | whee. anyway, this thing has been this vague fuzzy blob in the back of my head for a few years, never really got around to nailing down the specifics |
| 05:32.17 | kergoth | hahah |
| 05:32.24 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 05:33.44 | haarm | well neural network makes perfect sense, only time I ever looked at them was in those internet chat bots, picking the right responses for conversations, but I would assume you could do something along the lines of "you played this song, our response is to play this song next" |
| 05:34.14 | haarm | based on how you rate songs together |
| 05:34.45 | kergoth | well, playback order could either strengthen the relationship amongst the moods of those songs, or amongst the genres of those songs, or both, or be an entirely seperate metric. we dont know whether the user tends to play music by mood or by genre or something else entirely, like album |
| 05:36.51 | haarm | thinking about it, with loosely connected songs being played randomly, it could end up picking tracks from an entirely different "mood" altogether |
| 05:37.53 | kergoth | theres two issues, one is learning based on user selection of what song to play, the other is intelligent selection of the next song to play based on the user inputted parameters. |
| 05:37.58 | haarm | ie song1 + song2 have a good bond, and song2 + song3 have a good bond, but song1 and song3 don't, yet they could inevitably be played very close together |
| 05:39.44 | haarm | guess that would fix itself as more and more songs are rated though |
| 05:39.55 | haarm | when it has better picks |
| 05:47.06 | kergoth | methinks a wiki page is in order |
| 05:56.34 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r17837 10Cartographer/Modules/ZoneInfo.lua: Cartographer-ZoneInfo - random fixes |
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| 05:59.47 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17838 10Bartender3/Bartender3/libs/: Bartender3: fixed dewdrop externals |
| 06:04.21 | Amadeo | damn |
| 06:04.27 | Amadeo | how do you do shit like this with foobar2000? |
| 06:04.29 | Amadeo | http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8669/fooniner7ku.jpg |
| 06:04.34 | Amadeo | that's sweet |
| 06:05.23 | kergoth | i think thats a columnsui |
| 06:06.50 | Amadeo | I'll be getting that if so! |
| 06:07.11 | kergoth | see what i mean about it being huge to configure, but wanting to steal people's configs? |
| 06:07.12 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:07.18 | kergoth | gotta wipe bits and pieces |
| 06:07.53 | Amadeo | yeah :( |
| 06:09.09 | Amadeo | where do you get stuff like columnsUI? |
| 06:10.11 | kergoth | pretty sure that one is linked to off of the foobar page |
| 06:10.16 | kergoth | i just grabbed it a second ago :) |
| 06:11.37 | Amadeo | oh I see, it's under musicmusic's page |
| 06:11.43 | kergoth | :) |
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| 06:17.42 | kergoth | if anyone was curious about the ubernet file sharing network, check out http://www.ubernet.org/?p=UberStandard |
| 06:17.44 | kergoth | thats their quality standard |
| 06:18.17 | ckknight | I remember that, my old roommate was really involved with it. |
| 06:19.07 | kergoth | its a royal pain at first, but once you're in its nice |
| 06:28.29 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r17839 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/notes.lua: Cartographer-InstanceNotes - removed all the creator lines, as they are now unnecessary. |
| 06:40.57 | Arrowmaster | kergoth, i took a look at that and it seems theyre using some outdated stuff still |
| 06:41.13 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r17840 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/ (enUS.lua koKR.lua notes.lua): Cartographer-InstanceNotes - changed a whole bunch of L["Lvl XX Elite YYY"] into format strings, so now there's L["Lvl %s Elite %s"] and whatnot. |
| 06:43.38 | kergoth | Arrowmaster, hm? |
| 06:44.05 | Arrowmaster | old version of id3v2 and older version of lame |
| 06:45.04 | kergoth | yes, they chose the version they did for reasons |
| 06:45.15 | kergoth | newer versions of EAC are missing features they need |
| 06:45.22 | kergoth | for example |
| 06:46.04 | Arrowmaster | i prefer the recomended lame version and settings from hydrogenaudio |
| 06:49.22 | zoktar | is there anyway to show text in the xp bar in aguf ? |
| 06:56.12 | leech2k | hmm I have trouble |
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| 06:56.34 | leech2k | When I play two sounds close together with PlaySoundFile() most the time the second sound never plays. |
| 06:56.43 | leech2k | Any simple ideas? |
| 06:57.35 | leech2k | o yeah and Playsoundfile never returns anything other than nil even if the sound plays |
| 07:03.31 | CIA-17 | 03leech * r17841 10dgks/dgks.lua: |
| 07:03.31 | CIA-17 | dgks: Multikill fixes. |
| 07:03.31 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:04.08 | Arrowmaster | afaik playsoundfile isnt suppost to return anything |
| 07:04.45 | Arrowmaster | and yeah ive noticed the same thing with spaming playsoundfile |
| 07:05.46 | leech2k | hmm might have to add some sort of delay I guess |
| 07:06.31 | Arrowmaster | how long is the sound file your playing? |
| 07:06.33 | leech2k | wowwiki said it is suppose to return 1 on success |
| 07:06.43 | leech2k | like 1-4 second files |
| 07:07.28 | Arrowmaster | ill go ingame and test it some |
| 07:07.52 | Arrowmaster | need to make sure i disable my custom mod that hooks playsound though probably |
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| 07:10.39 | Arrowmaster | hmm im getting a return of 1 |
| 07:10.44 | leech2k | hmm |
| 07:10.48 | leech2k | let me double check |
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| 07:10.58 | Arrowmaster | you might have something hooking it and not returning properly |
| 07:11.14 | leech2k | hmm nothing is hooking that I know of |
| 07:11.24 | Arrowmaster | ok i just spamed it and got a return of nil when it didnt play |
| 07:11.38 | leech2k | kk but it did return 1 then when it worked? |
| 07:11.42 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:11.47 | leech2k | sweet I can work with that |
| 07:11.48 | Arrowmaster | something must be hooking it |
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| 07:12.12 | Arrowmaster | i think i might work on my custom playsound mod more now |
| 07:13.16 | Arrowmaster | ok and for me PlaySound() is returning nil nomatter what |
| 07:13.36 | leech2k | hmm I am just usind PlaySoundFile |
| 07:13.48 | leech2k | writing some debug code real quick |
| 07:14.28 | leech2k | kk I am getting 1 back on success for sure |
| 07:14.49 | Arrowmaster | could you test PlaySound() for me? |
| 07:15.08 | leech2k | what do I need to pass wo playsound(?) |
| 07:15.12 | leech2k | just a sample |
| 07:15.25 | Arrowmaster | PlaySound("RaidWarning") |
| 07:16.19 | leech2k | always nil |
| 07:16.38 | leech2k | wow with that |
| 07:17.08 | leech2k | if I spam it enough I get no sound at all |
| 07:17.08 | Gngsk | ckknight, ping |
| 07:17.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah just like PlaySoundFile() |
| 07:17.12 | Arrowmaster | but it doesnt return the same |
| 07:22.09 | Arrowmaster | i think the bigwigs Sound.lua needs an update then to make sure the non raidwarning sounds actually get played |
| 07:22.22 | leech2k | ya probaly |
| 07:22.34 | leech2k | I have been checking other mods for some sort of q system but havent found one |
| 07:23.07 | leech2k | is there a simple way to have a function run in 1 second? I thought I say a library that would do that at one time |
| 07:23.31 | Arrowmaster | aceevent, if you find that simple |
| 07:23.34 | kergoth | you mean like aceevent? |
| 07:23.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:23.46 | leech2k | lol |
| 07:23.53 | leech2k | have to look at it I guess |
| 07:23.58 | ckknight | Gngsk, pong |
| 07:25.16 | Arrowmaster | hmm wonder if schuduling a repeating event that does a PlaySoundFile and unschuduleds itself if the return is 1 would work well |
| 07:25.16 | leech2k | I <3 ace |
| 07:25.41 | Gngsk | was gonna suggest an addition to cartographer, a toggle for EnableMouse on the WorldMapFrame |
| 07:25.41 | Arrowmaster | most the time it would only run once |
| 07:26.08 | ckknight | Gngsk, the lock option? |
| 07:26.32 | Arrowmaster | how much overhead is there with schudulerepeatingevent? |
| 07:26.44 | Tem | as little as possible |
| 07:26.47 | ckknight | not too much, it's quite fast |
| 07:26.50 | ckknight | just use a throttle. |
| 07:27.14 | ckknight | I don't recommend using SchedulingRepeatingEvent with a throttle time of 0 |
| 07:27.47 | ckknight | Gngsk, cause that already exists. |
| 07:27.49 | Arrowmaster | well the ideal situation would be that it would call PlaySoundFile() and get a return of 1 meaning it could unschudule itself |
| 07:28.01 | Arrowmaster | and not have to repeat |
| 07:28.53 | ckknight | put a throttle of 0.1 or 0.05 on, at least |
| 07:29.06 | Gngsk | ckknight, I don't see a lock option |
| 07:29.17 | ckknight | Gngsk, in AlphaScale |
| 07:30.49 | Nargiddley | ckknight, i've noticed that dewdrop is still hooking CloseWindows which can cause problems in TBC |
| 07:31.01 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 07:31.17 | Nargiddley | it hooks it in AquireLevel |
| 07:31.48 | Nargiddley | also noticed when looking around, that CloseSpecialWindows is securecalled from CloseWindows, can hook that without tainting things for the same effect |
| 07:32.27 | ckknight | ah. |
| 07:32.28 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:32.31 | ckknight | I'll do that, then. |
| 07:32.32 | Nargiddley | but doesnt exist in 1.12 |
| 07:32.47 | ckknight | know which file that's declared in? |
| 07:33.11 | Nargiddley | UIParent.lua |
| 07:34.46 | leech2k | elf:ScheduleEvent(PlaySoundFile, 2, arg1); works fine |
| 07:34.59 | leech2k | if not (PlaySoundFile(arg1)) then |
| 07:35.15 | leech2k | meh doesnt paste here well :-) |
| 07:35.23 | Arrowmaster | ace.pastey.net |
| 07:35.53 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r17842 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - now hooks CloseSpecialWindows in lua51 instead of CloseWindows |
| 07:36.34 | ckknight | Nargiddley, there you go |
| 07:36.37 | ckknight | Gngsk, all good? |
| 07:38.15 | Gngsk | hmm |
| 07:38.31 | Gngsk | updated to the latest rev and addons stop loading after cartographer, no error from bugsack though |
| 07:39.16 | ckknight | check framexml.log |
| 07:39.48 | leech2k | self:ScheduleEvent(dgks:dgks_PlaySoundFile, 2, arg1) |
| 07:39.52 | leech2k | the colon seems to break it |
| 07:40.36 | ckknight | yea, because lua doesn't work that way. |
| 07:40.46 | leech2k | ah |
| 07:40.47 | ckknight | self:ScheduleEvent(dgks.dgks_PlaySoundFile, 2, dgks, arg1) |
| 07:40.48 | leech2k | I see now |
| 07:41.40 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/2665 too dirty of a hack? |
| 07:42.18 | Arrowmaster | im guessing yes |
| 07:43.35 | ckknight | looks fine to me. |
| 07:44.00 | Arrowmaster | really? the aceevent wiki says not to use ScheduleEvent to make repeating loops |
| 07:44.34 | ckknight | yours is a special situation |
| 07:44.42 | leech2k | that is exactly what I did pretty much |
| 07:44.43 | ckknight | repeating loops means loops that run forever |
| 07:44.46 | Gngsk | ckknight, http://ace.pastey.net/2666 |
| 07:44.56 | ckknight | yours loops until a certain point |
| 07:45.03 | ckknight | and typically doesn't happen often. |
| 07:45.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah hopefully it wouldnt even have to schudule the event |
| 07:47.38 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r17843 10Ace2/Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: .AceModuleCore-2.0 - bugfixing in activate function |
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| 07:47.56 | Arrowmaster | grr still cant svn switch between svn and dev |
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| 07:52.34 | ckknight_ | blah |
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| 07:54.46 | leech2k | only problem is that way doesnt guaranttee the order the sound is played :-) |
| 07:54.55 | leech2k | but meh they get play atleast |
| 07:55.22 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r17844 10Ace2/Ace2/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Ace2 - cleanup in activate functions |
| 07:55.30 | ckknight | that should do it |
| 07:55.43 | ckknight | Gngsk, update and tell me if it still craps out. |
| 07:56.03 | Gngsk | ok |
| 07:59.13 | leech2k | thx to all Ace authors makes my life easy :-) |
| 07:59.22 | Gngsk | ckknight, thumbs up |
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| 08:00.29 | ckknight | leech2k, :-) |
| 08:01.30 | CIA-17 | 03leech * r17845 10dgks/dgks.lua: dgks: Fix for PlaySoundFile() |
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| 08:06.07 | Arrowmaster | hmm im trying to test this and it wont work..... |
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| 08:07.33 | ckknight | mmm... possible. |
| 08:07.46 | ckknight | but I'd argue that's a bug if you can't. |
| 08:08.35 | ckknight | you should be able to. |
| 08:08.37 | Arrowmaster | i added some debug code and it seems to only be getting called once |
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| 08:09.21 | Arrowmaster | anyway to test if the scheduleevent is actually getting scheduled? |
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| 08:11.05 | ckknight | add a line to AceEvent? |
| 08:12.17 | ckknight | I'm gonna test it out now to see if it is an actual problem |
| 08:12.55 | Arrowmaster | does devtools have a function that does the same as /dump |
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| 08:14.09 | ckknight | devtools has dump... |
| 08:14.19 | ckknight | I don't use it, though |
| 08:14.25 | ckknight | I just like to stick in AceConsole lines |
| 08:14.34 | ckknight | AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintComma("Some", "text") |
| 08:14.37 | ckknight | and such. |
| 08:18.00 | Arrowmaster | *boggle* |
| 08:18.19 | Arrowmaster | ok self:IsEventScheduled() says it is but it never goes off |
| 08:18.57 | ckknight | my test shows it working. |
| 08:19.44 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/2665 is what isnt working |
| 08:20.56 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/2668 is the actual debuging code im using |
| 08:21.23 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/2667 <-- this works fine. |
| 08:21.24 | Arrowmaster | with a macro that does /script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Doodad\\BellTollNightElf.wav") BigWigsSound:BigWigs_Sound("Alert") |
| 08:21.49 | Mikma | good morning ladies |
| 08:24.03 | Mikma | so, i named the dog as "Sonja" |
| 08:24.15 | Mikma | and she said "thanks" and did bite me from nose :D |
| 08:24.48 | MoonWolf | mik, howabout making some sense ? |
| 08:25.18 | ckknight | Arrowmaster, AceEvent doesn't seem to be malfunctioning. |
| 08:26.11 | Mikma | MoonWolf: why? |
| 08:26.17 | MoonWolf | its fun |
| 08:26.19 | MoonWolf | try it some time |
| 08:26.28 | Mikma | what did you not understand? |
| 08:26.43 | Mikma | dog -> sonja -> teeth -> nose -> ouch |
| 08:28.18 | Mikma | MoonWolf: http://mikma.reaktio.net/sonja/sonja1.jpg |
| 08:28.23 | Mikma | clear now? |
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| 08:33.19 | MoonWolf | it are cure Mikma |
| 08:33.23 | Arrowmaster | ok it seems to be kinda working |
| 08:33.32 | Mikma | MoonWolf: sharp teeth :O |
| 08:33.33 | Arrowmaster | i accidently made a broken endless loop |
| 08:33.46 | Arrowmaster | good thing i have bugsack |
| 08:33.46 | MoonWolf | so is it borken or not..... |
| 08:33.53 | MoonWolf | if its broken its not endless |
| 08:37.46 | Arrowmaster | it defently gets scheduled |
| 08:38.06 | Arrowmaster | fixed it |
| 08:38.29 | Arrowmaster | i changed "BigWigs_Sound" to BigWigsSound.BigWigs_Sound |
| 08:39.01 | Arrowmaster | now figure out why that worked |
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| 08:41.59 | Arrowmaster | ckknight_ fixed it |
| 08:42.06 | ckknight_ | k |
| 08:42.08 | ckknight_ | what was the issue? |
| 08:42.08 | Arrowmaster | i changed "BigWigs_Sound" to BigWigsSound.BigWigs_Sound |
| 08:42.17 | ckknight_ | alright |
| 08:42.18 | Arrowmaster | and it magicly started working |
| 08:42.58 | Arrowmaster | dont quite understand why though |
| 08:44.24 | Arrowmaster | hmm wait no its still acting up, its not passing the variable |
| 08:44.33 | Arrowmaster | self:ScheduleEvent(BigWigsSound.BigWigs_Sound, 0.05, sound) |
| 08:46.25 | ckknight_ | you aren't doing it right |
| 08:46.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah i just found that out |
| 08:46.37 | ckknight_ | self:ScheduleEvent(self.BigWigs_Sound, 0.05, self, sound) |
| 08:48.26 | Arrowmaster | its working fine now, but still odd that it didnt work with "BigWigs_Sound" |
| 08:57.15 | ckknight_ | BigWigs_Sound was an event that was triggered... |
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| 08:58.01 | Arrowmaster | i was calling BigWigsSound:BigWigs_Sound() manually for testing |
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| 09:06.20 | Arrowmaster | wow i think the problem was something completely different the entire time |
| 09:07.31 | Arrowmaster | lol yeah i really found the answer now |
| 09:08.12 | Arrowmaster | threw all my /reload'ing i was forgetting to click the damn bigwigs fubar icon and enable it |
| 09:08.27 | Arrowmaster | i forgot that it disables everything when not in a raid now |
| 09:08.50 | Arrowmaster | ~slap Arrowmaster |
| 09:08.59 | purl | ACTION slaps Arrowmaster, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 09:13.04 | CIA-17 | 03leech * r17846 10dgks/dgks.lua: dgks: Cleaned up some old debugging code |
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| 09:15.23 | CIA-17 | 03arrowmaster * r17847 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: Nondefault sounds will now always be played, although they may be slightly delayed |
| 09:15.55 | [Ammo] | arrowmaster?! |
| 09:16.00 | [Ammo] | no delaying sounds |
| 09:16.01 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 09:16.03 | [Ammo] | revert that |
| 09:16.29 | Arrowmaster | ??? |
| 09:16.41 | Arrowmaster | only the non default one |
| 09:17.25 | [Ammo] | if there are lots of sounds playing all over the place it will delay it till kingdom come |
| 09:18.01 | [Ammo] | and all of a sudden 3 seconds later your sound arrives |
| 09:18.02 | Arrowmaster | ok what about a limit on it then? |
| 09:18.07 | [Ammo] | it's nolonger important then |
| 09:18.17 | andg | the dewdrop "disabled" entry |
| 09:18.33 | andg | does it grey out the menu option or hide it? |
| 09:18.40 | [Ammo] | disabled = gray hidden = hide |
| 09:18.57 | leech2k | isnt better than not playing at all? |
| 09:19.04 | [Ammo] | no it's not better |
| 09:19.09 | leech2k | cause they will only delay if thye wouldnt have played at all |
| 09:19.12 | Arrowmaster | well i think it would be nice a nice feature if people actually started using the non default sounds in plugins for important things like "You have Burning Adrenaline" and people will always get the sound then |
| 09:19.15 | andg | so I do |
| 09:19.21 | andg | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.24 | [Ammo] | they can potentially delay for seconds at a time |
| 09:19.29 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:19.42 | [Ammo] | so revert that bonkers code or I'll do it |
| 09:19.46 | Arrowmaster | fine |
| 09:20.54 | [Ammo] | you could even create nice wait loops |
| 09:21.05 | [Ammo] | some modules play 2 sounds almost at the same time |
| 09:21.07 | leech2k | hmm I still dont see how it would be better not to play then play slightly delayed |
| 09:21.16 | [Ammo] | so when a 3rd sound is playing they'll be waiting on eachoter |
| 09:21.29 | [Ammo] | it can potentially be delayed very long |
| 09:21.36 | Arrowmaster | or i could add a nodefaultsound option |
| 09:21.55 | leech2k | ammo it only delays if it fails to play |
| 09:22.22 | leech2k | because of to many sounds or whatver crazyness blizz does |
| 09:23.00 | [Ammo] | I have several problems with this piece of code |
| 09:23.07 | [Ammo] | 1. you didn't ask nicely |
| 09:23.17 | [Ammo] | 2. you're potentially creatinga wait loop |
| 09:23.28 | [Ammo] | 3. you're firing events instead of calling the playsoundfile directly from the loop |
| 09:23.33 | [Ammo] | where 1 is the most important |
| 09:23.39 | [Ammo] | followed by 2 |
| 09:23.48 | leech2k | those are valid points :-) |
| 09:24.34 | Arrowmaster | i think i reverted it... |
| 09:24.50 | leech2k | but it is probaly good to acknowledge the problem with PlaySoundFile() and decide how to fix it correctly :-) |
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| 09:25.50 | Arrowmaster | i checked out the previous revision and did svn ci -m "BigWigs: reverting last commit" and it didnt do anything |
| 09:25.50 | [Ammo] | you need to commit after revert, it's not comitted yet |
| 09:26.26 | [Ammo] | I agree there's a problem with the sounds, but it's blizzards problem |
| 09:26.33 | [Ammo] | and this solution is not the way imho |
| 09:26.49 | leech2k | It is blizzards problem, but I doubt the will fix it anytime soon. |
| 09:27.12 | leech2k | of course I haven't tested it on ptr yet... |
| 09:27.23 | cryogen | Arrowmaster: thats now how to youvert something |
| 09:27.26 | cryogen | +re |
| 09:27.56 | cryogen | that will simply set your local working copy to be a previous revision |
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| 09:28.32 | MoonWolf | Hmm, if i have two dates in strings like this, 2006-11-23 09:47:47. is it possible to somehow compare then ? |
| 09:28.34 | MoonWolf | them* |
| 09:28.50 | Arrowmaster | then help me out here, ive never reverted something on the server |
| 09:29.08 | cryogen | you want some kind of merge |
| 09:33.46 | Arrowmaster | [ammo], sorry for not asking, and yeah i agree the way i did that wasnt the best |
| 09:34.13 | Arrowmaster | now how the hell do i revert |
| 09:39.43 | CIA-17 | 03arrowmaster * r17848 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: reverting last commit, implementation of that idea was poorly done by me |
| 09:40.59 | [Ammo] | I usually revert by checking out previous revision |
| 09:41.02 | [Ammo] | moving it |
| 09:41.04 | [Ammo] | svn up |
| 09:41.07 | [Ammo] | then copy back |
| 09:41.10 | [Ammo] | and commit |
| 09:41.39 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: you could use strtotime() and compare the stamps |
| 09:41.50 | [Ammo] | if lua has strtotime |
| 09:41.53 | MoonWolf | lua has a strtotime |
| 09:42.01 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 09:42.01 | MoonWolf | because i did not know about it. |
| 09:42.11 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 09:42.16 | [Ammo] | I know perl and php etc have it |
| 09:42.24 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 09:42.30 | Arrowmaster | ah i did svn merge -r 17847:17846 Sounds.lua there and commited it |
| 09:42.51 | [Ammo] | arrowmaster: it looks fine now |
| 09:43.51 | MoonWolf | cant find anything strotime'ish in pil |
| 09:44.26 | Arrowmaster | check some of the date related functions |
| 09:44.47 | Arrowmaster | i swear i remember seeing that one of them took time and date as an imput |
| 09:45.55 | MoonWolf | ill split the strings up and convert them with time. |
| 09:50.08 | Kemayo | ckknight_: When I log in, all my FuBar plugins are jumbled up. Said jumbling involves the creation of several new bars. |
| 09:50.25 | ckknight_ | hrm |
| 09:50.30 | ckknight_ | do you play Alliance? |
| 09:50.37 | ckknight_ | cause if so, that's probably it. |
| 09:50.47 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:50.48 | ckknight_ | alternatively, you touch yourself at night |
| 09:50.52 | Arrowmaster | great bug |
| 09:52.30 | ckknight | in other words, I don't know, Kemayo |
| 09:52.44 | ckknight | but if you find the bug, you get a gold star. |
| 09:55.13 | Kemayo | Ooo. |
| 09:56.08 | Arrowmaster | i would so try and find that bug even though i dont get it if i didnt have to be up in 7 hours to go see relatives for the holiday |
| 09:56.36 | [FH]Birdemani | it did the same to me |
| 09:58.33 | ckknight | Job 40:18-19: His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron. He ranks first among the works of God, yet his Maker can approach him with his sword. |
| 09:58.57 | ckknight | as you can see here, God played with Transformers as well. |
| 10:08.14 | [Cu]Werik | Does any of you familiar with VMS? |
| 10:12.21 | yacoob | [Cu]Werik, stay away, from the voodoo! |
| 10:12.36 | [Cu]Werik | I can't. Have to make some program in it |
| 10:13.54 | Health | That sounds nice. |
| 10:14.51 | [Ammo] | hmm 500 internal server error on wowace.com/forums |
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| 10:23.14 | Mahiro | hi, have a question, if i change self.hptbg = CreateFrame("Frame", "gHUDFrame_hptbg", UIParent) to self.frame.hptbg = CreateFrame("Frame", "gHUDFrame_hptbg", UIParent) why do i get an error: attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value) ? |
| 10:24.46 | Fritti | because your self table doesn't have a frame subtable in it yet |
| 10:24.50 | Fritti | do self.frame = {} first |
| 10:26.24 | Mahiro | oh i see, thx a lot |
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| 10:36.17 | Mahiro | and i have to create the subtable in the frame function? |
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| 10:37.26 | groll | and what has happened to the wowace page? :O |
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| 10:47.51 | Fritti | Mahiro: before you can assign to self.frame.SOMETHING you need to make it a table, ie do self.frame = {} |
| 10:55.38 | Elkano^wtf | is the wiki down? |
| 10:58.38 | Mahiro | Fritti: is somewhere a tutorial where i can see how this is done? |
| 11:00.00 | Fritti | it's basic lua. See http://www.lua.org/pil/, www.wowace.com has a tutorial when it's up, www.wowwiki.com has introductory programming stuff IIRC |
| 11:01.11 | Fritti | for tables, read this page: http://www.lua.org/pil/2.5.html |
| 11:07.10 | Mahiro | yes i know the basic of lua but i have problems figuring out where to create such a table:/ |
| 11:07.10 | Mahiro | can i create it in the frame function or has it a defined place? sorry if i ask such things but im really new to this whole coding thing:/ |
| 11:08.05 | Fritti | I don't know what 'the frame function' is |
| 11:08.38 | Mahiro | well the function where i create the frames.... |
| 11:09.39 | Fritti | you should be able to create it anywhere |
| 11:09.46 | haste | Is trac back now? since the 500 errors have returned |
| 11:10.14 | Fritti | dunno, I never knew about the 500 errors before today |
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| 11:13.04 | Mahiro | hmm if i create it outside of the frame function i get a error:/ |
| 11:14.11 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psamNnim_I0 |
| 11:14.36 | Fritti | Mahiro: very probably because you're creating it outside of any function, so that self is not defined |
| 11:14.51 | Fritti | you should really go _DO_ a tutorial first -- it'll help you learn much faster |
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| 11:16.17 | Mahiro | i made the tutorials but they dont show this:/ or did i miss something?o_O |
| 11:16.59 | Fritti | I don't know what tutorial you followed |
| 11:17.20 | Mahiro | the ones on the wowace page... |
| 11:19.42 | Mahiro | you know for a experienced coder this may be easy but if you have almost no experience its really hard to get into this ace thing:O |
| 11:19.55 | Fritti | of course |
| 11:20.16 | Fritti | and it's lots of reading |
| 11:20.30 | Fritti | read this page for an explanation of 'self': http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html |
| 11:20.38 | Fritti | although you might not understand it if you haven't read the rest |
| 11:20.42 | Fritti | so, go read the whole book |
| 11:25.05 | Mahiro | ahh i wanted to read about object oriented programming before starting, seems i forgot about that:/ |
| 11:26.55 | sbu | good morning |
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| 11:33.46 | Mahiro | ahaa that makes some sense now, thx for that link:D |
| 11:35.38 | Mahiro | so a construct like self.frame = { texture = { type = {},},} is also possible? |
| 11:36.04 | Fritti | yep |
| 11:36.15 | Mahiro | ah nice, thx a lot:D |
| 11:36.47 | Fritti | hmm or rather self.frame = { ["texture"] = { ["type"] = {} } } |
| 11:41.49 | Mahiro | isnt that the same?o_O |
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| 12:23.26 | MoonWolf | <Sheepeep> Welcome to our XHTML <bar />! Sorry, we're closed. |
| 12:23.29 | MoonWolf | its brilliant! |
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| 12:29.10 | Tekkub | erf |
| 12:29.43 | anenigma | lol MoonWolf |
| 12:29.55 | MoonWolf | morning tekk |
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| 12:58.53 | Iceroth | christ this is getting ridiculous.. i've now waited for almost 2 weeks to get an explanation from wow eu billing department why did i get 3x 3 month subscription bill instead of just 1 |
| 12:58.53 | Iceroth | this morning i made a thread to general forums asking what should i do |
| 12:58.53 | Iceroth | and now the thread is deleted |
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| 13:02.37 | Tekkub | forums don't solve anything |
| 13:02.46 | Tekkub | get on the phone and get pissy |
| 13:03.10 | Health | piss on them |
| 13:03.36 | Iceroth | i guess i should.. the thing is though that as english isn't my 1st language and i don't feel too confident talking in it, especially over the phone |
| 13:03.38 | Mikma | Tekkub: not so easy in here since i'm not sure do we have a hotline for suckzzard |
| 13:04.11 | Iceroth | though i got 1 reply to the thread before it was deleted, suggested contacting my credit card company |
| 13:04.14 | *** join/#wowace noed (n=happy@85.8.10.15.se.wasadata.net) |
| 13:04.16 | Tekkub | then curse at them in french |
| 13:04.24 | Iceroth | lol :p |
| 13:04.25 | Mikma | por favor! |
| 13:04.37 | Iceroth | i can't speak a word of french |
| 13:04.48 | Kirk_Uni | They speak english there |
| 13:04.48 | Iceroth | but i'm fluent in cursing in finnish if that helps |
| 13:04.54 | noed | your father smells of elderberries? |
| 13:04.55 | Mikma | PERKELE SAATANA! |
| 13:05.04 | Mikma | god damn you VITTU! ;) |
| 13:05.24 | Kirk_Uni | Iceroth, yeah, don't try it on the forums - there's no point, and they couldn't help you anyway |
| 13:06.06 | noed | is there any ace barmod that is as configrable as DAB? |
| 13:06.24 | Iceroth | well, they are not responding my mail and i would prefer to not to call them |
| 13:06.26 | Kirk_Uni | Would cursing at them in french help anyway? I bet most of the employees aren't french :P |
| 13:06.50 | Kirk_Uni | Would cursing at them in french help anyway? I bet most of the employees don't speak it either :P |
| 13:06.55 | Kirk_Uni | bloody lag! |
| 13:07.10 | Kirk_Uni | Iceroth, you don't have much choice =( |
| 13:07.18 | Mikma | Iceroth: they want your money |
| 13:07.58 | Kirk_Uni | I think that's somewhat cynical - they get more than enough anyway, so doubt they're instructed to do whatever they can to gain it |
| 13:08.06 | Iceroth | well the way i see it i have 3 choices: 1) wait for the response to the email, 2) call my credit card company and say i'm a victim of a fraud, 3) call the fuctards in france |
| 13:08.15 | noed | all my addon settings just died, wich means reconfigging DAB, and DAB doesn't look like its going to work in 2.0 so i figured i might as well change barmod, but so far ive tried bartender and it wasnt really as flexible as DAB, any suggestions? |
| 13:08.38 | Kodewulf | woot! 10% of 2.0.1 update done downloading... lol |
| 13:08.38 | Kirk_Uni | noed, BT3 is advancing lots every day :) |
| 13:08.50 | Kirk_Uni | Iceroth, call them |
| 13:09.02 | noed | yeah i saw, but it didnt work in pre 2.0? i just got error msges |
| 13:09.04 | yacoob | noed, Bongos |
| 13:09.07 | Kirk_Uni | (plus your english doesn't sound bad at all!) |
| 13:09.13 | Iceroth | yeah, there's just this 15:03:36 < Iceroth> i guess i should.. the thing is though that as english isn't my 1st language and i don't feel too confident talking in it, especially over the phone |
| 13:09.18 | yacoob | noed, I switched from DAB to Bongos, and I'm more or less happy |
| 13:09.21 | Mikma | noed: use DUB ;) |
| 13:09.26 | Kirk_Uni | noed, BT2 for pre-2.0, BT3 for post 2.0 |
| 13:09.36 | noed | bt2 didnt do the trick ;P |
| 13:09.41 | sergio | How much different will BT3 be? |
| 13:09.43 | Kirk_Uni | The whole point of BT3 is that it's the rewrite for TBC :/ |
| 13:09.49 | sergio | I sorta like BT2 for being simple |
| 13:09.51 | noed | bt3 looked promising but if i cant use it atm, well i need to go raid today ;P |
| 13:09.57 | Mikma | sergio: well then you love BT3 |
| 13:10.08 | Mikma | same layout, same features. + much more |
| 13:10.15 | Mikma | and, 120 buttons |
| 13:10.15 | noed | dub? |
| 13:10.21 | sergio | will the new stuff be LOD or something |
| 13:10.25 | Mikma | Discord UI Builder |
| 13:10.34 | noed | is it out yet? |
| 13:10.35 | yacoob | *cough*Bongos*cough* |
| 13:10.52 | Mikma | sergio: no, builtin but they won't be "loaded/created" until you decide to use them |
| 13:11.07 | sergio | Is it sad that I've had an Alpha account since a week into it and I've used it maybe 3 hours |
| 13:11.09 | Mikma | noed: alpha-versions are. also there is FlexBar1/2 |
| 13:11.16 | sergio | :| |
| 13:11.18 | noed | hum ok |
| 13:11.31 | noed | do the alpha version work? ;P |
| 13:11.37 | yacoob | Why, thank you! |
| 13:11.42 | Mikma | i don't know since i hate discord addons |
| 13:11.54 | yacoob | BOOOOONGOOOOOS! |
| 13:12.02 | yacoob | Mikma, did Loz killed your cat? |
| 13:12.05 | Mikma | BT3 will rule them all when it's done |
| 13:12.10 | Mikma | yacoob: no he killed my performance |
| 13:12.16 | noed | yacoob; does bongos have the scripting abilities DAB have? |
| 13:12.25 | abbat_w | ~seen weab |
| 13:12.44 | purl | weab is currently on #wowi-lounge (15h 10m 26s) #wowace (15h 10m 26s), last said: 'just get a sortable list of the crap.'. |
| 13:12.44 | yacoob | that's not reason for hate, you know... |
| 13:12.44 | Mikma | yacoob: then what is |
| 13:12.47 | noed | like change pages based on if combat, change button to aq40 mount in aq40 and stull like that |
| 13:12.47 | Mikma | and i said i hate the addons, not the person |
| 13:12.55 | yacoob | noed, it used to have, it was removed in latest version, but if you're desperate, get older |
| 13:13.00 | yacoob | version, I mean :) |
| 13:13.08 | Mikma | noed: BT3 will have some of those features :) |
| 13:13.19 | yacoob | Mikma, well, I'd simply change the addon. But hate? :) |
| 13:13.35 | Mikma | yacoob: i don't like them = hate. simple :D |
| 13:13.50 | Mikma | well ok, i lied |
| 13:13.56 | Mikma | i hate lozareth too xD |
| 13:14.00 | yacoob | ah :) |
| 13:14.03 | noed | Mikma: yeah i saw, but i need it to work now today ^^ |
| 13:14.19 | yacoob | I guess I'm too peaceful simply :) |
| 13:14.20 | Mikma | noed: DAB for pre-2.0, wait for 2.0.X -> |
| 13:14.32 | Mikma | ~whalestab yacoob |
| 13:14.38 | purl | ACTION stabs yacoob with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 13:14.43 | noed | i guess, just freaking annoying rescripting when you know your throwing it out in a few weeks |
| 13:14.59 | yacoob | (wholeshield?) |
| 13:15.08 | Kirk_Uni | A few weeks? More like next week probably :P |
| 13:15.18 | Mikma | noed: well you're not the onlyone with that problem |
| 13:15.29 | Mikma | that's why people usually use simple UI and stuff |
| 13:15.57 | noed | but i like to have my addons do the tedious and booring work ;P |
| 13:16.00 | odt | setting up ace mods was pretty easy |
| 13:16.20 | noed | i find setting up acemods to be a pita |
| 13:16.22 | Mikma | noed: that's you're problem since things like that won't work in TBC anymore :) |
| 13:16.27 | Fritti | ~lozareth |
| 13:16.28 | purl | The Boogeyman A.K.A the man who eat all your RAM and fed it to vampire puppies |
| 13:16.45 | andg | Mikma |
| 13:16.52 | andg | when can I have stances on multiple bars |
| 13:16.56 | Kirk_Uni | I'm hoping that I can just copy across my TBC UI for the next patch without much trouble |
| 13:17.02 | noed | Mikma: stuff like changing buttons based on combat or not in combat and stull like corkfu will still work what ive read myself to? |
| 13:17.07 | Mikma | andg: let's poke nevcairiel together |
| 13:17.17 | andg | nevcairiel, poke |
| 13:17.17 | Mikma | nevcairiel: poke |
| 13:17.21 | Fritti | lol |
| 13:17.28 | Mikma | noed: things like that won't propably work in TBC anymore |
| 13:17.28 | noed | andg = ag_uf writer? |
| 13:17.35 | Kirk_Uni | andg, I think I saw a bug last night, not sure if it's fixed already - my pet bar didn't change colour as it lost health |
| 13:17.40 | noed | Mikma: T.T |
| 13:17.59 | andg | Kirk_Uni, that's because the pet bar shows it's happiness |
| 13:17.59 | andg | noed, yes |
| 13:18.08 | noed | andg; love it ^^ |
| 13:18.09 | Kirk_Uni | But warlock pets .... |
| 13:18.21 | Kirk_Uni | Any way of separating them? |
| 13:18.31 | andg | it should act normally if you're a warlock |
| 13:18.34 | andg | else it is a bug |
| 13:18.37 | Kirk_Uni | Didn't :P |
| 13:18.42 | andg | ok |
| 13:18.48 | Mikma | noed: the new UI-lock in TBC doesn't allow anything to be changed on screen while you enter combat. only if you use Blizzard's SecureTemplates |
| 13:18.50 | andg | anyway try the newest revision from SVN |
| 13:18.55 | andg | I did some changes recently etc |
| 13:18.58 | Kirk_Uni | I'll check again in a few hours, when I'm home |
| 13:19.07 | sergio | so bt3 is a complete rewrite? |
| 13:19.19 | andg | noed, thanks=) |
| 13:19.21 | andg | sergio, yes |
| 13:19.23 | Mikma | andg: would you believe if i say that i'm waiting that myself too... |
| 13:19.29 | noed | Mikma: thats so boring =( |
| 13:19.50 | andg | Mikma, for pages for multiple bars?=) |
| 13:20.04 | Kirk_Uni | andg, it is normal for it to take about 1-2secs for the animated portraits to change? |
| 13:20.05 | Mikma | andg: yeah when you get that one i will get my paging too ;) |
| 13:20.18 | andg | ok |
| 13:20.35 | andg | Kirk_Uni, currently yes |
| 13:20.42 | Kirk_Uni | Why so? |
| 13:20.44 | noed | does that mean we wont have neat buttons that flash or dim out during combat either? |
| 13:20.44 | andg | I think it was something Kemayo wrote |
| 13:20.52 | Mikma | andg: one bar to rule them all |
| 13:21.02 | Mikma | s/bar/baar(mod)/ |
| 13:21.06 | Mikma | lawl tpyo! |
| 13:21.14 | sergio | will bt3 need redrange and omnicc |
| 13:21.20 | andg | Mikma, please add dreamlayout to the bt3 toc |
| 13:21.22 | Mikma | sergio: already in! |
| 13:21.28 | andg | so I can move the file inside the bt3 dir :P |
| 13:21.37 | sergio | interesting |
| 13:21.39 | Kirk_Uni | Cause, I would *love* if it updated immediately :) Adapt seemed able to do it |
| 13:21.44 | Mikma | andg: umm. DL'3' is not ready yet :P |
| 13:21.52 | andg | hm |
| 13:21.56 | andg | hax |
| 13:21.58 | sergio | looking forward to trying it but i'm too lazy to download beta |
| 13:22.03 | sergio | :) |
| 13:22.07 | Mikma | it's not toggleable on/off etc |
| 13:22.07 | sergio | i'll wait a few weeks |
| 13:22.34 | Mikma | andg: and i think nevvie want's it as a separate module |
| 13:23.41 | yacoob | http://www.slaveofthemind.com/flashblog/wp-content/uploads/animator_v_animation2.swf |
| 13:23.43 | Mikma | but i'm still quite happy the way DL3 turned out |
| 13:23.48 | noed | btw, about ag_uf, i dled some hack to get target of target of target, but there was a rangecheck that dims out ppl not in range built in to, that i have to disable every time i restart wow even if i set it to stanby etc, any line or anything i should comment out to get rid of the rangecheck? |
| 13:24.34 | haarm | a hack? :D |
| 13:24.45 | noed | in the ag_uf thread |
| 13:24.47 | Mikma | hacks = EVUL! very very EVUL! |
| 13:25.07 | noed | well i need target of target of target, im a raidhealer =) |
| 13:25.24 | Mikma | no, you don't. |
| 13:25.44 | noed | nah true, i could play in standard ui without anything |
| 13:26.10 | yacoob | e-bill |
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| 13:26.16 | noed | but target of target of target is damn helpfull |
| 13:26.43 | haarm | raid healers don't even need target of target, if it's hitting anyone else but your tank, get a new raid ;) |
| 13:26.47 | andg | aguf doesn't have rangecheck itself |
| 13:26.51 | andg | it's some addon you use |
| 13:27.05 | andg | also BC/2.0 aguf has ToToT |
| 13:27.13 | noed | sweat |
| 13:27.17 | noed | sweet even |
| 13:27.31 | noed | yeah i know that the rangecheck is a own addon |
| 13:27.49 | noed | its avaliable as a seperate addon from wowace i think |
| 13:27.56 | noed | but it was built into the hack |
| 13:27.59 | noed | ahh well |
| 13:28.05 | noed | ill live with it untill the patch comes |
| 13:28.20 | noed | haarm: agro reset abilities? |
| 13:28.52 | Mikma | noed: http://wow.reaktio.net/pvplayout.jpg <- all you need mehehehee |
| 13:29.44 | noed | haha suprinsingly similar to mine ;P |
| 13:30.21 | noed | http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/TheSfish/yetanewui.jpg |
| 13:30.24 | Mikma | i have my mount and shadowform in another bar which is hidden |
| 13:30.43 | Mikma | then i use G to shadowform and shift+G to mount/unmount |
| 13:30.59 | Kirk_Uni | I'll have to screenie later, just so I can show off too :P |
| 13:31.21 | Mikma | noed: Squishy won't work either in TBC |
| 13:31.21 | yacoob | Mikma, are you using 'q' and 'e' keys? |
| 13:31.32 | Mikma | yacoob: for strafing, yes ;) |
| 13:31.33 | yacoob | because I bound stealth and mount to those, very handy |
| 13:31.39 | noed | anyways, totot is damn nice during places like noth etc where agro resets and the boss goes for some triggerhappy mage/rogue, kinda nice if you combine it with clickasting shield etc =) |
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| 13:31.55 | Kirk_Uni | yacoob, yeah I got mount on Q and Fel ArmoUr on E :) |
| 13:31.58 | noed | i know, one of the reasons i will hate 2.0 |
| 13:32.20 | yacoob | the thing is, will I be playing WoW at all... :) |
| 13:32.51 | Kirk_Uni | Time to go hand in a project, see y'all later |
| 13:32.58 | noed | squishy = going from staring at 40 bars for 4-5 hours to actually seeing whats happening, just keeping track of your group and the 6-8 lines in squishy |
| 13:33.08 | noed | guess its warlock time in TBC =) |
| 13:33.08 | yacoob | noed, chek out grid |
| 13:33.14 | Mikma | grid <3 |
| 13:33.15 | yacoob | Sorry. |
| 13:33.17 | yacoob | Grid. |
| 13:33.27 | Mikma | you can see it in my picture on the bottomright |
| 13:33.28 | Grid | Mikma <3 |
| 13:33.37 | noed | i know, i will probably start using it between 2.0 and TBC |
| 13:33.38 | yacoob | 8) |
| 13:33.40 | Mikma | mehe |
| 13:33.44 | Fritti | q and e are unnecessary, just click and hold and move using a & d |
| 13:34.02 | Kirk_Uni | Mmmmmmmm, Grid |
| 13:34.12 | noed | does it even compare to squishy? |
| 13:34.41 | Iceroth | it's quite nice actually |
| 13:35.01 | Iceroth | and well, considering it's the one that works in 2.0 and the other one does not... :) |
| 13:35.06 | yacoob | it's not the same |
| 13:35.13 | yacoob | squishy as you know it, is dead. |
| 13:35.19 | yacoob | (in 2.0 that is) |
| 13:35.30 | noed | will rangechecks work and coloring for agro etc? |
| 13:35.37 | Mikma | you still can see the bars but not click them |
| 13:35.54 | yacoob | Mikma, on the contrary, you can click them all you want! :) |
| 13:37.14 | noed | on unitframes i mean, can you color them red if they got agro and fade them out if they are out of range etc? |
| 13:37.28 | noed | or will everything like that be locked? |
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| 13:41.12 | noed | hum.... it became quiet :S |
| 13:41.36 | [Cu]Werik | yacoob, this VMS is not a big deal :P |
| 13:41.59 | yacoob | you're only scraping the surface... |
| 13:42.56 | noed | is curse down? |
| 13:43.00 | haarm | not vax vms? ;x |
| 13:43.18 | [Cu]Werik | vax vms whatever, you name it thats it |
| 13:43.29 | [Cu]Werik | noed: looks so |
| 13:43.35 | noed | =( |
| 13:43.45 | [Cu]Werik | :( |
| 13:44.02 | [Cu]Werik | But DCL documentation is non exsisting |
| 13:44.53 | haarm | actually last vax I played with, we put openbsd on it |
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| 13:45.56 | [Cu]Werik | I have to make a game in DCL :p |
| 13:46.00 | Health | k |
| 13:46.58 | haarm | can't you make a zork clone? ;p |
| 13:47.13 | [Cu]Werik | -.- |
| 13:49.47 | [Cu]Werik | They are reactive to stolen code:) |
| 13:51.01 | haarm | doesn't DCL like.. totally lack conditional branches? |
| 13:51.38 | haarm | why don't you write it in C, then your DCL can be to compile and run it :p |
| 13:57.17 | [Cu]Werik | because I have to write it in dcl:P |
| 13:58.13 | haarm | how about hangman |
| 13:59.05 | [Cu]Werik | lol, great idea,thx:) |
| 13:59.14 | haarm | why are you doing this anyway O_o |
| 13:59.28 | [Cu]Werik | School project... |
| 13:59.49 | haarm | vms seems a little archaic even for schools... |
| 14:00.41 | [Cu]Werik | I had to make a chess game in bash, then another game in vms and I will have to make something in fortran too:S |
| 14:01.16 | haarm | lol chess in bash, please don't say vs. computer :D |
| 14:01.30 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 14:02.05 | noed | btw, is the "WinAceUpdater" recomended to use to redownload all the adds im reinstalling? |
| 14:02.30 | [Cu]Werik | What is the fun without AI |
| 14:02.50 | [Cu]Werik | noed: I used it all the time, it's a nice application :) |
| 14:03.06 | noed | oki, here goes then =) |
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| 14:05.03 | [Cu]Werik | haarm: the biggest problem with vms is this terrible editor:P |
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| 14:06.31 | haarm | I use it all the time too, BUT!, you will want to search and destroy changelog*.txt files after a few weeks :) |
| 14:07.09 | [Cu]Werik | I don't care, its campus account. You can't believe I will install VMS for this:) |
| 14:07.36 | haarm | [Cu]Werik, cant you write it somewhere else then copy/paste it into your terminal? |
| 14:07.55 | [Cu]Werik | let me see |
| 14:08.19 | [Cu]Werik | right click paste, ok I can do that |
| 14:08.28 | haarm | :) |
| 14:08.34 | haarm | putty? |
| 14:08.35 | [Cu]Werik | yup:) |
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| 14:09.32 | [Cu]Werik | Do you know any better for windows? |
| 14:10.15 | haarm | well I used to use SecureCRT, but then I got bored of looking for keygens/cracks for it, and moved to PuTTY |
| 14:11.00 | [Cu]Werik | Was SecureCRT better? |
| 14:11.19 | Mikma | [Cu]Werik: Putty <3 <3 <3 |
| 14:12.14 | haarm | I can't remember Werik, it was bigger :D |
| 14:12.32 | [Cu]Werik | Oh, yes, size is a big problem in the 21srt century |
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| 14:12.40 | haarm | and it has scripting |
| 14:13.20 | noed | what happened to curse? where is the addons =S |
| 14:13.41 | [Cu]Werik | oh, its v3 again |
| 14:13.52 | haarm | what addons do you need that you can't fine in wowace.com/files? :D |
| 14:13.56 | haarm | *find |
| 14:14.40 | noed | wim, decursive, atlas (loot), auctioneer....... etc |
| 14:14.42 | [Cu]Werik | files are under the wow portal btw |
| 14:15.02 | [Cu]Werik | which is pink :O |
| 14:15.02 | noed | wow portal -> page not found |
| 14:15.17 | noed | but /en/files worked |
| 14:15.41 | noed | or rather, im getting server not found when trying to get into the wow portal |
| 14:16.04 | noed | getting the same error when trying to dl addons |
| 14:16.46 | [Cu]Werik | :( |
| 14:17.11 | haarm | DATABASE_USER 'root' |
| 14:17.13 | haarm | naughty curse |
| 14:18.27 | haarm | You're seeing this error because you have DEBUG = True in your Django settings file. Change that to False, and Django will display a standard 500 page. |
| 14:18.56 | noed | ? |
| 14:19.20 | [Cu]Werik | We have found some unexpected surprises at launch which needs to be fixed. |
| 14:19.20 | haarm | on one of the curse sites :p |
| 14:19.45 | [Cu]Werik | But file downloads are working for me;) |
| 14:20.35 | haarm | surprises? http://www.cursebeta.com/ gets stuck in an infinite loop, and http://beta.curse-gaming.com gives us a nice insight into your settings :) |
| 14:21.04 | [Cu]Werik | Those are only the debug pages;) |
| 14:21.48 | [Cu]Werik | The guys are working on the site probably , thats why they are enabled;) |
| 14:23.13 | haarm | someone with malicious intent could use that info though |
| 14:24.21 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know. I'm not familiar with django, neither with perl or python. Those lines don't tell me much:) |
| 14:24.59 | haarm | they tell me its a good target if you want a root password :D |
| 14:25.35 | noed | someone knows if decursive and atlas got some own homepages? ;P |
| 14:25.49 | haarm | noed, get used to not using decursive |
| 14:26.12 | [Cu]Werik | I agree on that. It's a terrific gameplay killer addon |
| 14:26.13 | noed | nah im just rerolling when they break all that crap ;P |
| 14:26.37 | noed | fed up with how healing in this game works anyways |
| 14:26.53 | haarm | so you have 2 options... learn2play, reroll... you failed :D |
| 14:27.07 | noed | nah i can play without decursive, did that before |
| 14:27.21 | phyber | I was healing in UBRS with my level 56 priest a few days ago. the place looks so different from DPSing. it's just full of these 10 bars that change colour all the time. no idea what people are ranting about dragons for. |
| 14:28.11 | haarm | lol phyber, wait til you try fights like patchwerk... then it's like 2 coloured bars :P |
| 14:28.30 | [DiE]Celeb | you don't have to watch them for pw tho |
| 14:28.30 | [Cu]Werik | healers are big camper class:P |
| 14:28.47 | haarm | sure you do celeb |
| 14:28.50 | noed | "magmadar is a DOG???!!!" |
| 14:29.03 | haarm | unless you want to use flasks and all that crap |
| 14:29.08 | [DiE]Celeb | i just hit my 2k heal for 6mins *shrug |
| 14:29.28 | [Cu]Werik | Must be fascinating |
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| 14:29.34 | [DiE]Celeb | wery :p |
| 14:29.36 | haarm | depends which tank you're on I guess :p |
| 14:29.37 | [Cu]Werik | :p |
| 14:29.42 | [DiE]Celeb | thats ot1 tho |
| 14:29.47 | [DiE]Celeb | cancle etc. on the others |
| 14:29.47 | noed | im just to tired of getting loot that only helps me in raids and having to be a spec thats übergimped in everything else but raiding |
| 14:30.09 | [Cu]Werik | Oh dear, don't start it:P |
| 14:30.12 | haarm | I rebelled when we opened AQ, been shadow all the way |
| 14:30.29 | [DiE]Celeb | holy priests and resto shams/druids are good in group pvp aswell ^__- |
| 14:30.40 | noed | why not reroll dps? i mean, no bitching if i want some dps loot, i dont have to spend two times the dkp since i need two sets, i can pvp and raid with the same spec, and i can grind, AND the more i raided, the more i would improve everywhere |
| 14:31.04 | noed | nah real pvp healing priest spec goes into shadow to get silence and dont touch holy to much |
| 14:31.33 | haarm | full disc is gonna be the pvp spec of the future |
| 14:31.41 | haarm | pain suppression + reflective shield |
| 14:31.45 | noed | not very likely, pain supression sucks |
| 14:31.48 | [Cu]Werik | noed, it's not that easy with a dps class either, you will see |
| 14:32.03 | haarm | uhm, it doesn't suck in pvp |
| 14:32.13 | [Cu]Werik | dps classes are expensive |
| 14:32.17 | haarm | when you're being beat up by a couple of rogues |
| 14:32.32 | [Cu]Werik | except mages, mages are the cheapest class ever |
| 14:32.34 | noed | when your attacked by a couple of rogues you spend your time stunned |
| 14:32.48 | noed | if your stunned you cant use it |
| 14:33.11 | haarm | guess I'm just magical |
| 14:33.26 | haarm | anyway, pain suppression pwned in arenas |
| 14:33.46 | noed | didnt for me when i tried |
| 14:35.26 | noed | [Cu]Werik: i cant say its to cheap beeing a priest either, manapots etc aint to cheap |
| 14:35.46 | noed | its cheaper than plate but meh |
| 14:37.25 | [Cu]Werik | Paladins are cheap |
| 14:37.36 | noed | hum? |
| 14:37.43 | [Cu]Werik | well, the second cheapest class |
| 14:37.44 | beerke | pfff 650MB patch download.... |
| 14:38.19 | [Cu]Werik | Mages are extremely cheap because they have one role, they can conjure and they can sell everything above cloth |
| 14:38.39 | [Cu]Werik | paladins are cheap because they just can't die if you play them well :) |
| 14:38.49 | noed | nither do hunters ;P |
| 14:39.08 | [Cu]Werik | and paladins have infinite mana with a good build:P |
| 14:39.26 | noed | what are you talking about tbh? raiding? grinding? lvling? |
| 14:40.07 | [Cu]Werik | well, my main was a paladin, so paladins are pretty cheap in raiding, you die half as much as others with intervention, you never use mana potions |
| 14:40.31 | noed | hehe |
| 14:40.41 | [Cu]Werik | mages are extremely cheap from 1-60 , dont know about raiding, never went into 40 man raids with my mage |
| 14:41.12 | [Cu]Werik | warriors die in every second corner:P, rogues are ok. I cant speak for other classes:) |
| 14:41.27 | noed | the only con i see from playing a dps is how booring raids could be.... "spam spam spam" same buttong in your dps cykle |
| 14:41.45 | Kilroo | I miss playing my rogue. |
| 14:41.54 | [Cu]Werik | Nah, dps is not boring imho:) |
| 14:42.05 | Kilroo | Crap, if I ever start playing again I'm gonna need a whole new set of friends to play with. |
| 14:42.14 | Kilroo | I wonder if I'm still in my guild. |
| 14:42.14 | [Cu]Werik | Don't know. I think all the dps classes are fun to play. |
| 14:42.20 | noed | well, from the 5mans ive done on my alts they seem quite boring, not on par on healing anyways |
| 14:42.48 | Kilroo | I'll tell you one thing that's exciting but NOT exactly fun. |
| 14:43.01 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r17849 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gothik.lua: BigWigs : Update locals koKR (Gothik.lua) |
| 14:43.17 | Kilroo | Going on an instance run as a rogue in a party where the fighter is poorly specced for holding aggro. |
| 14:43.19 | [Cu]Werik | I can't stand healing as a priest. Don't know why. I tried to reroll many times, but I just couldnt leave my paladin behind |
| 14:43.35 | Kilroo | And being the only person with a prayer of pulling the aggro off the druid. |
| 14:43.43 | Kilroo | And having to get a critical ambush to do it. |
| 14:43.59 | Kilroo | Twice. |
| 14:44.00 | noed | i love it, having to stay sharp constantly or ppl start dying |
| 14:44.11 | noed | havnt tried any other healingclass so i cant comment on paladins |
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| 14:44.25 | noed | or well i rolled a druid to 20 but that was so horrible i just deleted him |
| 14:44.32 | Kilroo | It wouldn't have been as bad if the druid hadn't kept running in CIRCLES. |
| 14:45.02 | Kilroo | Which she kinda had to, but it made me dizzy. |
| 14:45.04 | Kilroo | Anyhow. |
| 14:45.08 | Kilroo | Back to idling. |
| 14:45.43 | [Cu]Werik | It should work now. The new site that is |
| 14:46.00 | noed | 503 Service Unavailable for the whole page now =D |
| 14:46.08 | noed | dont even reach the curse portal |
| 14:46.15 | [Cu]Werik | lol.. |
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| 14:46.42 | noed | now i got in |
| 14:46.47 | noed | but wow portal still dont work =) |
| 14:47.37 | noed | hum... the blizzard downloader aint very clever is it -_- |
| 14:48.00 | noed | it has downloaded the first 10% of the patch about 15 times now, since i restart wow each 30 mins |
| 14:48.50 | [Cu]Werik | It should |
| 14:49.48 | noed | hum |
| 14:50.09 | noed | know any solution to when big wigs and ora2 disables themselves each time i logout? |
| 14:50.19 | noed | each time i login they are grey |
| 14:50.26 | noed | the icon in fubar that is |
| 14:50.50 | Iceroth | load on demand? |
| 14:50.57 | Iceroth | only activate in raid? |
| 14:51.01 | noed | hum.... |
| 14:51.12 | noed | that would make sence..... |
| 14:51.16 | noed | now i feel stupid :P |
| 14:53.16 | noed | hum, is there any other modsites with atlas and all those mods? i only use wowace and curse =S |
| 14:53.30 | Iceroth | wowinterface.com |
| 14:53.36 | noed | ty |
| 14:53.36 | Iceroth | and ui.worldofwar.com |
| 14:54.34 | noed | ui.worldofwar.com doesnt work? |
| 14:54.42 | Gngsk | .net |
| 14:54.52 | noed | ah thanks =) |
| 14:55.02 | Iceroth | ah, i should never paste links from memory :) |
| 14:56.13 | noed | lal, curse reverted back to v2? |
| 14:57.34 | andg | [Cu]Werik, maybe it's because paladins are much better healers than priests... Flash of light is the best healing spell in the game |
| 14:59.43 | noed | hum, is there any easy way to get all my ace addons to change profile to the char specific? |
| 15:01.07 | haarm | andg, even with the downranking nerf? |
| 15:01.18 | andg | probably |
| 15:01.33 | andg | cause flash heal and flash of light gains the same +heal percent |
| 15:01.44 | andg | so lets say you have 1k +heal |
| 15:01.57 | andg | that's 430+ to flash heal or flash of light |
| 15:02.10 | andg | but flash heal is so much more expensive |
| 15:02.23 | andg | but it gains the same as flash of light when you get better gear |
| 15:02.32 | abbat_w | btw, anyone play by mage on closed ptr? |
| 15:02.48 | abbat_w | i have one question about changed mechanics |
| 15:03.24 | abbat_w | now if i cast something i can break cast and cast cs w/o have global cooldown |
| 15:03.32 | abbat_w | it is work same in BC? |
| 15:03.51 | abbat_w | i read about global CD after i break my cast |
| 15:04.03 | Mikma | AKX: how's DreamChat going? |
| 15:04.13 | AKX | Hmm |
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| 15:04.15 | AKX | Actually |
| 15:04.36 | AKX | OK, message sending framework seems to work |
| 15:04.59 | noed | andg; hum, as a priest flasheal is my emergency heal for clothies, its not a spell i downrank much, for priests the downranking nerf hits our gheal and heal |
| 15:05.05 | AKX | Whispers will work when the GUI editbox is done ;) |
| 15:05.45 | andg | i am not talking about downranking |
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| 15:06.25 | Amadeo | Happy Thanksgiving! :D |
| 15:06.33 | andg | I am talking about how flash of light >>>>> flash heal with end game gear (800-1000+heal) |
| 15:07.04 | noed | well, yeah, flahsheal is a crappy spell |
| 15:07.11 | Gngsk | spamming flash of light >> spamming flash heal |
| 15:07.14 | Amadeo | Paladins are the best at everything, no surprise! |
| 15:07.16 | noed | but its not the bread and butter priests spell really |
| 15:07.21 | Gngsk | flash heal is best used sparingly |
| 15:07.34 | noed | priests = gheal/heal (depending on inc damage and +heal ofc) |
| 15:07.40 | Amadeo | Not to mention that Paladins get mana back for healing! |
| 15:09.07 | noed | as i got it, not that ive played a pala or ran pala numbers, paladins can heal forever pretty much with right spec and gear, dont match the hps a priests or druid can put out? |
| 15:09.23 | noed | *but dont |
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| 15:10.06 | haarm | priests > paladins |
| 15:10.09 | haarm | I play horde :D |
| 15:10.22 | Amadeo | Fighting Paladins in arenas is nuts |
| 15:10.31 | Amadeo | they can practically stunlock you now |
| 15:10.32 | haarm | manaburn, manaburn, manaburn |
| 15:10.48 | Amadeo | Judgement, then they have all these new chain damage abilities |
| 15:11.01 | noed | on beta? or on ptr? |
| 15:11.04 | Amadeo | beta |
| 15:11.14 | haarm | the arenas I was in the paladin was rendered a healbot, I was teamed up with a shaman and a hunter |
| 15:11.33 | Amadeo | Not in mine, they charge at you and rip you a new one |
| 15:11.37 | noed | well, paladins are quite nasty healers in pvp |
| 15:11.41 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 15:11.42 | Amadeo | the best |
| 15:12.06 | Amadeo | Druids are a close second, and could possibly be better...but the player has to be really good |
| 15:12.06 | noed | yeah, not like priest roadbumbs (priest QQing whoho!) |
| 15:12.16 | haarm | nah, that armor counts for shit when you're getting bombed with 2k+ mind blasts and the like :) |
| 15:12.29 | haarm | I can do enough damage to make a paladin have to keep healing himself |
| 15:12.34 | noed | shield.... "immune immune immune immune lol" |
| 15:12.35 | Amadeo | You can't mind blast through a divine shield |
| 15:13.00 | Amadeo | and when it's 2v2, you can't just wait for the Paladins bubble to drop |
| 15:13.09 | Amadeo | and he's healing his friend and himself back up to full |
| 15:13.16 | Amadeo | but you try to heal and the other guy stops it |
| 15:13.25 | haarm | thats when you drop shadowform and heal yourself and your friend back up to full... |
| 15:13.37 | Amadeo | it's not 1v1 |
| 15:13.53 | haarm | I know, I managed to read the 2v2 |
| 15:14.21 | Amadeo | Well as a Priest, you should know you're the primary target :) People aren't going to let you heal if they're halfway decent at PvP |
| 15:14.42 | haarm | no, it's usually the priests without the black shadows that are the primary target |
| 15:14.43 | noed | kick, bash, cs, etc etc, oh the fun |
| 15:15.43 | Amadeo | That's the beauty of a Paladin |
| 15:15.47 | Amadeo | they shield, you can't do anything |
| 15:16.08 | Amadeo | free heals incoming |
| 15:16.08 | haarm | just get your distance back, it's fine |
| 15:16.17 | noed | hum, does the new enemy castinbars that seems to come with the default tbc interface show the +castingtime casters get when they take dmg? |
| 15:16.18 | haarm | and get antagonist so you can time your next attack with the shield fade |
| 15:16.35 | Amadeo | haarm: Are you talking about beta or ptr? |
| 15:16.41 | haarm | beta |
| 15:16.48 | Amadeo | are you horde or alliance? |
| 15:16.52 | haarm | horde |
| 15:16.57 | Amadeo | Hellfire? |
| 15:16.58 | haarm | bloodmyst |
| 15:17.10 | Amadeo | is that the EU server? |
| 15:17.13 | haarm | yup |
| 15:17.17 | Amadeo | ah |
| 15:17.18 | haarm | the only eu pvp server |
| 15:17.41 | Amadeo | all I know is I can kill a Priest before they're out of stunlock on my PTR Rogue |
| 15:18.25 | haarm | depends on the spec of both I guess, and if the priest knows the attack is incoming |
| 15:18.32 | Tain | Happy American Imperialist holiday! |
| 15:18.49 | Amadeo | Tain: :DDD |
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| 15:21.34 | Xuerian | Why thank you Tain! You too! Cheers! /gnaws on turkey aroma. |
| 15:21.38 | Xuerian | XD |
| 15:22.19 | Amadeo | Waiting for some reviews of a new portable audio player |
| 15:22.56 | haste | ah, so it's a holiday in the US now? |
| 15:23.08 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 15:23.13 | Amadeo | the eating holiday |
| 15:23.14 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:23.46 | haste | well that explains all the 'have a great holiday' replies today |
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| 15:24.01 | Amadeo | haste: Happy Thanksgiving! |
| 15:24.02 | Amadeo | :P |
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| 15:24.31 | haste | hehe |
| 15:25.37 | Tain | I'm giving everyone smallpox to celebrate. |
| 15:25.53 | Amadeo | But you already gave me smallpox! |
| 15:26.02 | Tain | Now it'll be bigpox! |
| 15:26.11 | Amadeo | Argh! Thwarted again! |
| 15:27.46 | Fritti | I'm such a .us n00b - I thought thanksgiving was on the 30th |
| 15:28.14 | Tain | It is one of those crazy holidays without a set date. |
| 15:28.19 | Amadeo | it's just Thursday |
| 15:28.20 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:28.21 | Mikma | Fritti: i forgive you |
| 15:28.30 | Amadeo | a floating holiday |
| 15:28.37 | Fritti | woot! I've been forgiven! |
| 15:28.44 | Tain | It's the last Thursday before the last Friday of November, if I remember right. |
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| 15:29.06 | Amadeo | yeah, I think so |
| 15:29.09 | Tain | So if the month ends on a Thursday, like this one does, it'll be the Thursday before the last one. |
| 15:29.10 | haste | Fritti: at least you knew when it was tho'! |
| 15:29.12 | haste | or almsot |
| 15:40.01 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 16:03.03 | CIA-17 | 03sairen * r17850 10cyCircled/ (5 files in 2 dirs): cyCircled: Some very small changes and addition of TradesBar plugin. |
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| 16:12.36 | nevcairiel | woot, mass poking |
| 16:12.46 | nevcairiel | andg, Mikma, whats up? |
| 16:12.51 | andg | what |
| 16:13.08 | nevcairiel | dunno, you poked me sometime earlier, says my log |
| 16:14.43 | Mikma | nevcairiel: poke |
| 16:15.20 | nevcairiel | what? |
| 16:15.21 | Mikma | nevcairiel: paging, andg want's multiplebars :D i want the plain version |
| 16:16.22 | andg | what's the plain version |
| 16:16.28 | Mikma | one bar |
| 16:16.31 | andg | isn't that what it already can do? |
| 16:16.41 | Mikma | umm, dunno. can it? |
| 16:17.38 | andg | you haven't tested it yet? |
| 16:17.53 | andg | mm stop whining then :D |
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| 16:20.00 | Mikma | *bitch* *whine* |
| 16:22.33 | Mikma | nope, seems like it can't. |
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| 16:25.04 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17851 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc Bartender3_BarClass.lua Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 16:25.04 | CIA-17 | Bartender3: |
| 16:25.05 | CIA-17 | - new console command /bt3 config will bring up the full config |
| 16:25.05 | CIA-17 | - fixes for small stuff. |
| 16:26.17 | Mikma | nevcairiel: andg want's the Dreamlayout in BT3 :P |
| 16:28.37 | CIA-17 | 03daklu * r17852 10FuBar_DakSmak/ (6 files): |
| 16:28.38 | CIA-17 | FuBar_DakSmak |
| 16:28.38 | CIA-17 | - Reorganized code for future functionality and better optimization. |
| 16:28.38 | CIA-17 | - Added option for abbreviated text. |
| 16:28.38 | CIA-17 | - Added option to display/hide icon and/or text on Fubar. |
| 16:28.38 | CIA-17 | - Options and frame position are now saved across sessions. |
| 16:28.40 | CIA-17 | - Added German localization file. (Still needs German translations.) |
| 16:29.09 | Mikma | nevcairiel: brilliant. |
| 16:30.46 | Azurewrath | ~seen Neronix |
| 16:31.02 | purl | neronix <i=neronix@user-514c5185.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 16h 51m 46s ago, saying: 'Are they made of friggin' antimatter or something? -_-'. |
| 16:35.30 | Mikma | nevcairiel: what'cha think? i still say it should be an external module |
| 16:36.14 | Mikma | ckknight: you here love? |
| 16:39.40 | Amadeo | Does anyone know where Torgos's Bane is, in Terokkar Forest? |
| 16:39.50 | [FH]Birdemani | bone waste |
| 16:41.15 | Mikma | ckknight: Cartographer, latest revision, M -> Location button -> Instances -> ANY instance: mouseover the marks on map = Error - Interface/AddOns/Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua:1125: Tables-2.0: You cannot open a tables with an unregistered parent frame. |
| 16:41.24 | Amadeo | [FH]Birdemani: Where though? |
| 16:41.53 | [FH]Birdemani | i think like 31 54 |
| 16:42.08 | [FH]Birdemani | its among a bunch of huts and such |
| 16:42.15 | [FH]Birdemani | the skettish are around it |
| 16:42.44 | Amadeo | out in the open, or by a village on the side? |
| 16:43.14 | [FH]Birdemani | its in the middle of this ruined camped...i gues syou could call it that |
| 16:44.14 | Amadeo | ok, cool, thank ya |
| 16:47.00 | andg | ugh. At last. I am free! |
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| 16:53.24 | phyber | after leeroy got his own card in WoW TGC, I wonder if they'll be one that promotes the use of more dots. |
| 16:53.37 | phyber | ~more dots |
| 16:53.52 | phyber | ~moredots |
| 16:53.54 | purl | Hit it like you mean it! |
| 16:54.41 | Baps | phyber: they use the phrase "more dots" in the advertisement for the onyxia expansion pack for the collectable card game |
| 16:55.45 | Baps | http://www.xeofyre.net/images/wow/wow_cards.jpg |
| 16:55.52 | Baps | in the upper right corner |
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| 16:56.26 | Tekkub | fuck... frozen milk |
| 16:56.44 | phyber | Baps: haha, nice :D |
| 16:56.51 | Amadeo | [FH]Birdemani: I found the area, but I can't find his Bane |
| 16:56.53 | Amadeo | what's it look like? |
| 16:59.52 | Amadeo | bah I found it |
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| 17:02.24 | Amadeo | argh |
| 17:02.27 | Amadeo | Almost soloed him |
| 17:02.33 | Amadeo | everything's immune to fear in TBC |
| 17:02.49 | Amadeo | and Warlock - Fear = Suck |
| 17:04.55 | Baps | http://www.xeofyre.net/images/wow/wow_cards.jpg |
| 17:04.57 | Baps | WHAT THE HELL. |
| 17:05.06 | Baps | http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7028023-fulltext.html |
| 17:05.10 | Baps | (second link) |
| 17:05.21 | Baps | it appears that LSI has patented the doubly linked list |
| 17:05.55 | axxo | ':)' is trademarked |
| 17:06.10 | Baps | the patent was granted in april 2006 |
| 17:06.13 | groll | patents sucks :) |
| 17:06.24 | Baps | it's been CS 101 material since the 1970s |
| 17:06.35 | Baps | the patent office needs to be shut down |
| 17:06.39 | Baps | they're out of control |
| 17:06.53 | groll | yep :) |
| 17:07.16 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r17853 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua: |
| 17:07.16 | CIA-17 | BigWigs_LoathebTactical : |
| 17:07.16 | CIA-17 | - update zhCN locals |
| 17:07.27 | groll | just look at medicine.. if the medicine companies wouldnt patent their stuff like 10 million ppl in africa could get cheaper aids meds.. etc etc |
| 17:07.42 | Mikma | hmm, wasn't it finnish dude that registered ':)' |
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| 17:19.39 | kergoth | happy thanksgiving to any other us folks in here |
| 17:20.39 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Anyone on the 2.0.1 PTR's? |
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| 17:21.48 | kergoth | I will be if this installer finishes sometime today |
| 17:21.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:22.07 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Has anyone else heard that there are 4 new bankslots on the PTR and one new bagslot? |
| 17:22.30 | kov` | there are |
| 17:22.37 | gezr | ill go check that if I can get in |
| 17:22.53 | `-FISKER_Q\ | why isn't there 4 new bankslots in TBC and one new bagslot then? :o |
| 17:22.55 | `-FISKER_Q\ | pretty weird |
| 17:23.28 | Saroz | blue already answered that |
| 17:23.29 | gezr | 550 in queue |
| 17:23.37 | `-FISKER_Q\ | ok cool |
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| 17:24.15 | `-FISKER_Q\ | got a link for it? |
| 17:27.04 | Elkano | `-FISKER_Q\, I thik they exist in TBC, too |
| 17:27.45 | phyber | `-FISKER_Q\: there is |
| 17:27.52 | phyber | new bank slot costs 25g |
| 17:28.19 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Yeah but that's 1 bank slot not 4 bank slots and a bag slot |
| 17:28.56 | phyber | not sure about the normal bag slot, but on TBC I definatly have the 4 extra slots in the standard bank and 1 extra bank bag slot :) |
| 17:29.20 | CIA-17 | 03moonsorrow * r17854 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: |
| 17:29.20 | CIA-17 | SpecialEventsEmbed: |
| 17:29.20 | CIA-17 | - raised max buff limit from 16 to 32 |
| 17:29.23 | phyber | because I spent ages reorganising my bank after I logged in there ;) |
| 17:29.27 | `-FISKER_Q\ | oh |
| 17:29.33 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i must've misunderstood then :) |
| 17:29.37 | phyber | stupid 4 slots moved everything around. |
| 17:29.53 | `-FISKER_Q\ | thought they meant 4 new slots for bags and one more slot for the mainbag |
| 17:30.04 | `-FISKER_Q\ | mainbag = chara |
| 17:30.07 | `-FISKER_Q\ | character bag |
| 17:30.24 | phyber | characterbag should be upgradable. sucks that it's not. |
| 17:31.21 | Saroz | they arent |
| 17:31.28 | Saroz | because it will change for level 1 always |
| 17:31.32 | Saroz | aswell* |
| 17:31.49 | Saroz | so it creates an unbalance from level 1 to 60 |
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| 17:34.37 | phyber | Saroz: hmm? being able to upgrade the character bag creates unbalance? just like me sending 4x 16 slot bags to my alts then? |
| 17:35.00 | Saroz | What to say |
| 17:35.10 | phyber | you should just be able to replace it like a normal bag, with the exception that some bag MUST always exist in that slot. |
| 17:35.11 | Saroz | That's what blue said |
| 17:35.21 | phyber | so, if I get an 18 slot ony bag, I could dump my crappy 16 slot backpack. |
| 17:35.53 | phyber | Saroz: have a link? :) |
| 17:35.59 | phyber | or was it a while ago |
| 17:36.23 | Saroz | yea |
| 17:36.26 | Saroz | go search :p |
| 17:36.27 | Amadeo | 16 slot bags are easy to make in the expansion |
| 17:36.40 | Amadeo | and 18 slots will be pretty easy I assume, just need that mysterious Mana Loom |
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| 17:40.03 | Amadeo | wow, you can install Linux on the PS3 |
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| 17:41.05 | Amadeo | http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=22857 |
| 17:41.30 | Amadeo | I wonder what other operating systems will work on it |
| 17:41.56 | Amadeo | Or if you could run Linux games on it |
| 17:42.01 | Amadeo | Play WoW on your PS3 :P |
| 17:42.07 | Higdur | Anyone knows a good addon to track warrior stats (resists, parries, doges, blocks etc)? |
| 17:42.45 | phyber | Amadeo: that might work, if linux had access to the graphics acceleration (it doesn't yet) |
| 17:42.51 | Amadeo | Higdur: It's built into the expansion |
| 17:42.53 | phyber | Amadeo: also, you know that the PS2 ran linux, right? :) |
| 17:42.57 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 17:43.09 | Amadeo | but PS3 is powerful enough to run current PC software |
| 17:43.42 | Higdur | Amadeo: yeah, but actual stats from a given fihgt, so that it'll help you determine which kit to use on a particular boss fight etc |
| 17:43.50 | Amadeo | phyber: So it's up to a Linux distrobution to support the graphics on the PS3? |
| 17:43.56 | Amadeo | Higdur: Oh ok, I'm unsure then :) |
| 17:44.33 | phyber | Amadeo: I guess it's up to Sony to tell people how the graphics work, or for Sony to make some driver for it. |
| 17:44.43 | Amadeo | oh, so it'll never happen :( |
| 17:44.55 | `-FISKER_Q\ | epic fail Amadeo |
| 17:45.01 | `-FISKER_Q\ | "I'm just gonna logon as root" |
| 17:45.02 | `-FISKER_Q\ | GTFO |
| 17:45.03 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :P |
| 17:45.12 | Amadeo | that's not my video, lol |
| 17:45.23 | `-FISKER_Q\ | just saying it's epic fail :) |
| 17:45.54 | Amadeo | he's just trying to be cool I think |
| 17:45.56 | Amadeo | :P |
| 17:46.13 | Baps | amadeo: linux works because it supports the cell processor. most other OS don't |
| 17:46.25 | Amadeo | I'm in your PS3, rooting your Linux! |
| 17:46.29 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Winamp[5.04]: [Listening to (radio): DJ Brownout - Vibez - Vol. 4 (D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D & HappyHardcore.com - Hardcore - DJ mixes, hard dance and NuNRG!)] Online radio has been running for 16hrs 31mins 14secs |
| 17:46.29 | `-FISKER_Q\ | yay |
| 17:46.36 | Baps | the BSDs might sometimes soon. don't hold your breath waiting for XP or Vista to support it |
| 17:46.41 | `-FISKER_Q\ | haha |
| 17:46.47 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Well why should it? |
| 17:46.49 | haste | Fisker! |
| 17:46.55 | `-FISKER_Q\ | haste! |
| 17:46.59 | Amadeo | yeah, I don't expect an MS OS to support it |
| 17:47.10 | haste | You know, if you had only one special sign infront of your name, I could actually auto-complete it :p |
| 17:47.14 | haste | but two, not possible :D |
| 17:47.22 | `-FISKER_Q\ | ah |
| 17:47.24 | Amadeo | besides, if MS did support it, they'd have to provide technical support for it |
| 17:47.34 | Amadeo | so, it'll never happen |
| 17:47.59 | Baps | and I wouldn't expect WoW to work on the ps3 -- wow is an i386 binary so you can emulate a lot of the directx calls, etc on an intel box running linux, but you can't do that on another processor without also emulating the processor.. which is much more exp |
| 17:48.01 | Fisker | Well someone might be able to emulate :) |
| 17:48.02 | Amadeo | I'll be really interested in the PS3's capabilities if Linux can access the graphics on it |
| 17:48.03 | Baps | expensive |
| 17:48.19 | Amadeo | Baps: But WoW runs in OpenGL also |
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| 17:48.31 | Baps | you miss my point |
| 17:48.36 | haste | np: FAKE? - Pulse (Japanese/Original version) |
| 17:48.47 | Baps | you'd have to emulate a i386 architecture for the processor on the cell |
| 17:49.05 | Baps | translating EVERY machine instruction gets very slow |
| 17:49.19 | Baps | prohibitively slow |
| 17:49.21 | Amadeo | So you're saying there's a specific Fedora distrobution for Cell? |
| 17:49.26 | Baps | yes |
| 17:49.33 | Amadeo | Interesting |
| 17:50.05 | Fisker | Linux supports a lot of processors too |
| 17:50.13 | Amadeo | Fedora sure has an ugly desktop |
| 17:50.26 | Baps | *Shrug* I don't use their defaults |
| 17:50.34 | Fisker | I usually use XFCE |
| 17:50.40 | Fisker | well it's a while since i used linux |
| 17:51.03 | leech2k | are there any ace2 selfcast that work in tbc? |
| 17:51.13 | Amadeo | I thought most people gave up Red Hat a long time ago |
| 17:51.37 | leech2k | Red Hat is still big in the corparate sector. |
| 17:51.37 | Fisker | fedora core is a free community supported desktop version of red hat i think |
| 17:51.42 | Amadeo | Yeah |
| 17:51.54 | Amadeo | brb |
| 17:51.55 | kergoth | leech2k: is the new autoselfcast thats built in not good enough? |
| 17:52.01 | kergoth | it seems to work great here |
| 17:52.14 | leech2k | u cant use shit-key bindings with it |
| 17:52.23 | Fisker | then change the modifier |
| 17:52.26 | leech2k | if u hit alt it doesnst recognize the shift |
| 17:52.28 | phyber | so use some decent key bindings instead. |
| 17:52.43 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 17:52.43 | leech2k | I use 1-0 and shift-1-0 |
| 17:52.46 | leech2k | always have |
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| 17:55.31 | leech2k | ya for some reason it doesnt recognize the shift key once u hit the alt key |
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| 18:03.15 | [Cu]Werik | phew |
| 18:03.54 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r17855 10FuBar_PursueFu/FuBar_PursueFu.lua: |
| 18:03.54 | CIA-17 | FuBar_PursueFu |
| 18:03.54 | CIA-17 | - fixed localization (made use of Babble-Spell for spell names) |
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| 18:08.44 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:09.04 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 18:09.11 | Funkeh` | hey ck :) |
| 18:09.21 | leech2k | hello |
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| 18:10.44 | doktoreas_ | hi to all |
| 18:11.00 | ckknight | Mikma, update your TabletLib |
| 18:11.13 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 18:11.22 | gezr | howdy yall, |
| 18:11.28 | Mikma | ckknight: meh, ok let's see |
| 18:11.57 | ckknight | woke up at 5:20 AM in order to go do charity work :-P |
| 18:11.59 | ckknight | blah |
| 18:12.01 | doktoreas_ | mate i have bartender2, but i can't move the button |
| 18:12.19 | Mikma | doktoreas_: /bar lock |
| 18:12.30 | doktoreas_ | i can move the bar |
| 18:12.34 | leech2k | so it seems no selfcast mods will ever work in 2.0 :-( |
| 18:12.44 | doktoreas_ | but i wanna swap the button from bar |
| 18:12.48 | [Ammo] | you have to use blizzard's retarded selfcast |
| 18:12.55 | leech2k | its sucks though |
| 18:13.00 | [Ammo] | yeah bigtime |
| 18:13.08 | leech2k | it wont slefcast any bindings with shift in them |
| 18:13.24 | Mikma | doktoreas_: unlock the buttons from interface menu |
| 18:13.25 | Higdur | why would they disable something like that? :/ |
| 18:13.50 | doktoreas_ | lock in interface menu is for bar or for button? |
| 18:14.21 | Mikma | button |
| 18:14.21 | leech2k | doh alt bindings dont work either! |
| 18:14.34 | doktoreas_ | Mikma: i'll try thx |
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| 18:15.24 | ckknight_ | odd |
| 18:15.37 | gezr | any of you guys play on hellscream? |
| 18:15.43 | Amadeo | back |
| 18:15.58 | Amadeo | So yeah...now that I'm all off topic |
| 18:16.09 | Amadeo | Even though the 360 and PS3 are powerful, I'm more interested in the Wii |
| 18:16.50 | ckknight | same |
| 18:17.57 | doktoreas_ | Mikma: with lock i can move the bar.. the become green but i can't move a single button |
| 18:18.36 | ckknight | Mikma, did that fix it? |
| 18:18.38 | Mikma | doktoreas_: then you have buttonlock on |
| 18:18.54 | Mikma | ckknight: testing now, just managed to update !!!Libs |
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| 18:19.18 | Amadeo | damn, this is a sexy foobar2000 - http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7794/aaaaaaaaaaaayj5.png |
| 18:20.14 | Amadeo | I had no idea you could do that much to it these days |
| 18:20.37 | kergoth | yeah that one is nice, i actually downloaded that config earlier to play with it :) |
| 18:20.52 | Amadeo | did it work out ok? |
| 18:21.13 | kergoth | not particularly, was missing some components it wanted |
| 18:21.19 | kergoth | need to play around more in a bit |
| 18:21.20 | Mikma | ckknight: yesh. |
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| 18:21.26 | ckknight | Mikma, works? |
| 18:21.33 | Amadeo | damn |
| 18:21.37 | ckknight | hey ag` |
| 18:21.49 | Mikma | ckknight: yeah, nicely |
| 18:22.04 | ckknight | change your post or reply, then |
| 18:23.18 | doktoreas_ | Mikma: my fauolt sorry |
| 18:23.34 | Mikma | ckknight: righto |
| 18:23.53 | Grine | man I wish I had acess to the SVn sometimes :P |
| 18:23.55 | Amadeo | kergoth: The trackinfo mod panel link is broken :( |
| 18:24.06 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:24.54 | Mikma | i'm glad users can delete their posts |
| 18:24.58 | haste | foobar 2000 is one of the programs I miss :( |
| 18:25.04 | haste | the other one is uTorrent |
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| 18:36.46 | Grine | i just started testing foobar2000 |
| 18:37.07 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r17856 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Removed ToggleModuleActive hook, not needed now with the new Ace2 events. |
| 18:37.16 | vhaarr | New pre-release version, or what are you testing it for? |
| 18:46.21 | Grine | for myself |
| 18:46.26 | Grine | never tried it before |
| 18:46.55 | nevcairiel | ag` how can i increase the gap between party frames? |
| 18:47.14 | nevcairiel | in TBC |
| 18:47.45 | nevcairiel | ah nvm, found it |
| 18:47.49 | nevcairiel | its a bit hidden tho :) |
| 18:48.01 | ckknight | I need a task. |
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| 18:49.01 | yacoob | solve world's hunger problem. |
| 18:51.06 | ckknight | I'm serving food in like 2 and a half hours |
| 18:51.17 | ckknight | I meant more like something I could code |
| 18:51.18 | Azurewrath | mhm... anyone know a good Buff Mod? Moving the Standard Buff icons would be enough.. since Buffalo is bugged and the Author seems not interested in fixing it :/ |
| 18:51.18 | Mikma | ckknight: yatlas |
| 18:51.20 | vhaarr | ckknight: Keybinding support for Dewdrop, or a type="text", isKeybinding = true thing for AceOptions, or both. |
| 18:51.30 | ckknight | vhaarr, hrm... |
| 18:51.36 | nevcairiel | ag`: another problem tho, someone joined my party while i was in combat, and it failed to init the new frame, hat to reloadui to make it respond to clicks and work correctly |
| 18:51.42 | ckknight | Mikma, complicated. |
| 18:51.53 | ckknight | Azurewrath, ElkBuffBar? |
| 18:51.55 | Mikma | ckknight: it's a task :) |
| 18:52.16 | Mikma | Azurewrath: blizzard default with Bartender3_Dreamlayout? ;) |
| 18:52.33 | Azurewrath | ckknight: naah.. i like the standard icons :) |
| 18:53.21 | vhaarr | ckknight: Fix that option group/checkbox issue I reported ages ago that I already forgot. |
| 18:53.27 | vhaarr | Not that I think you remember either, but :P |
| 18:53.27 | haste | heh... |
| 18:53.36 | ckknight | vhaarr, what was that? |
| 18:53.38 | haste | okey, so I have a network disc on my windows computer |
| 18:53.51 | Azurewrath | Mikma: mhm.. i thought Bartender is bars only? ;) |
| 18:54.17 | haste | and it doesn't like folders with same name, but different cap :( |
| 18:55.49 | vhaarr | ckknight: I don't remember. Just that it had something to do with type="text", validate=<table> |
| 18:55.50 | Mikma | Azurewrath: yeah but it was easy so i did it too ;) |
| 18:56.03 | ckknight | vhaarr, well, if you remember... |
| 18:56.14 | vhaarr | ckknight: Give me somewhere to report issues? |
| 18:56.23 | vhaarr | I bet I've reported 20 that we both forgot about. |
| 18:56.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:56.35 | ckknight | things aren't structured well now |
| 18:56.40 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 18:57.00 | nevcairiel | just setup some random bugtracker on some bogus webspace :) |
| 18:57.06 | vhaarr | I have. |
| 18:57.08 | vhaarr | I set up bugzilla. |
| 18:57.08 | ckknight | whatever, I'm working on the keybinding thing for AceOptions |
| 18:57.22 | vhaarr | cool |
| 18:57.30 | ckknight | Tekkub, what was the Ubuntu-style bugtracker you were looking at? |
| 18:57.40 | vhaarr | Launchpad? |
| 18:58.01 | vhaarr | That's Ubuntus bug-tracker, at least. |
| 18:58.02 | Tekkub | uh... |
| 18:58.03 | vhaarr | I've used it a bit. |
| 18:58.05 | Tekkub | something |
| 18:58.10 | yacoob | the interface is nice |
| 18:58.12 | Tekkub | yea prolly |
| 18:58.14 | yacoob | but it's not free, is it? |
| 18:58.17 | vhaarr | It's not. |
| 18:58.22 | vhaarr | And it's not released yet either, AFAIK. |
| 18:59.03 | ckknight | vhaarr, gonna have it be validate = 'keybind' |
| 18:59.09 | vhaarr | ckknight: nice |
| 18:59.24 | ckknight | which makes sense |
| 18:59.33 | vhaarr | indeed it does |
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| 19:03.37 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r17857 10Skinner/Skinner.lua: Skinner: Fix bug which prevented the Gradient Effect from being disabled |
| 19:05.03 | yacoob | o/~ yay! |
| 19:10.06 | Grine | so like... |
| 19:10.24 | Grine | that fix for fruityloots+skinner seems to be an anti fix imo XD |
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| 19:19.17 | Amadeo | anyone use trackinfo in fb2k? |
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| 19:27.31 | leech2k | omg blue responded to me! |
| 19:28.00 | leech2k | " If you bind a key binding to alt-X then the alt key will not be considered "down" for the duration of the binding - the modifier was consumed by resolving the key binding. |
| 19:28.02 | leech2k | In the next beta update, if you bind a key binding to shift-X, then the alt key will be available in the binding." |
| 19:28.42 | leech2k | hmm |
| 19:28.49 | leech2k | so maybe next patch |
| 19:30.01 | yacoob | "maybe next patch" - always true mantra of wow coder :) |
| 19:30.14 | yacoob | (did the default chat tab got fixed?) |
| 19:30.15 | leech2k | lol |
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| 19:50.00 | mjc | ckknight_: about? |
| 19:50.15 | ckknight_ | in reference to? |
| 19:50.43 | mjc | cartographer is amazing. |
| 19:51.23 | ckknight | good stuff. |
| 19:51.26 | ckknight | glad you appreciate it. |
| 19:51.36 | mjc | blows every other map mod out of the water. |
| 19:51.48 | ckknight | it's not done yet ;-) |
| 19:51.57 | ckknight | I just got my tauren suited up with mining and herbalism |
| 19:52.01 | mjc | hehe |
| 19:52.07 | ckknight | as soon as I'm done hacking dewdrop, I think you can guess what I'm doing |
| 19:52.48 | mjc | I'm writing a module for it but I don't think you should include it. :p |
| 19:53.05 | ckknight | what is it? |
| 19:53.15 | mjc | allows you to draw bot paths on the map with the mouse ;) |
| 19:53.26 | ckknight | bot paths? |
| 19:53.28 | ckknight | don't bot. |
| 19:53.39 | mjc | exactly why I figured you shouldn't include it :) |
| 19:54.48 | Jens | Can I force AceUpdater to redownload addons? Switching mods to include dependencies. |
| 19:57.14 | Hjalte | The health decifit number on my grid sometimes dissappears.. "-673" turns into "-".. Anyone else experiencing this? |
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| 19:58.52 | Hjalte | Jens: Go to preferences and set skipversioncheck to true |
| 19:59.20 | Jens | Nice. Thanks. |
| 20:05.27 | Jens | Anyone know of an alternative to CT_Viewport? |
| 20:06.40 | haarm | that evil skinner mod has a viewport in it |
| 20:11.35 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: you about? |
| 20:13.32 | ckknight | vhaarr, so you know, the keybinding deal is very shiny, and was actually pretty easy to do. |
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| 20:14.37 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 20:14.55 | [Ammo] | although I'm a bit idle |
| 20:14.58 | [Ammo] | I have to dps PW :p |
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| 20:18.37 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: i read in your post that loatheb was broken, i havent done loatheb in a while, why should it be broken? Oo |
| 20:23.37 | [Ammo] | it's nolonger broken :p |
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| 20:25.03 | vhaarr | ckknight: cool :) |
| 20:25.28 | ckknight_ | not done yet |
| 20:25.37 | ckknight_ | and I want to make it so that it shows Insert instead of INSERT |
| 20:25.39 | ckknight_ | and such. |
| 20:25.44 | ckknight_ | looking through Blizzard's code now |
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| 20:26.43 | ckknight_ | ooh, found it |
| 20:26.51 | ckknight_ | assert(KEY_INSERT == "Insert") |
| 20:27.39 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm guessing the hardest part will be making the Dewdrop representation. |
| 20:27.49 | ckknight_ | actually that's not too hard. |
| 20:28.00 | ckknight_ | I already got Dewdrop doing backflips |
| 20:28.05 | vhaarr | okay |
| 20:28.11 | vhaarr | I had a hard time doing it from the outside, though. |
| 20:28.20 | vhaarr | Hooking the anonymouse edit boxes created by dewdrop. |
| 20:28.28 | vhaarr | -e |
| 20:29.01 | vhaarr | I never got it working because the text type did some crazy resetting of the values all the time. |
| 20:29.16 | ckknight_ | ;-) |
| 20:29.22 | ckknight_ | you don't hack Dewdrop from the outside. |
| 20:29.49 | vhaarr | :P |
| 20:29.56 | vhaarr | I had to try. |
| 20:30.51 | ckknight_ | I also have to make this work with clicks, which is a bit of a pain. |
| 20:30.58 | ckknight_ | SHIFT-Middle click |
| 20:31.00 | ckknight_ | and such |
| 20:31.59 | vhaarr | hm, I guess |
| 20:47.38 | mjc | ckknight_: if I castspell while dragging a fubar mod it gets stuck to the mouse |
| 20:48.09 | ckknight_ | prolly shouldn't do that, then. |
| 20:48.35 | ckknight_ | I'll look into it later |
| 20:48.39 | mjc | well I just put it in a macro... :/ |
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| 20:52.29 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r17858 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 20:52.29 | CIA-17 | .Dewdrop-2.0 - added keybinding support. |
| 20:52.29 | CIA-17 | added validate = 'keybinding' to AceOptions. |
| 20:52.29 | CIA-17 | added 'editBoxIsKeybinding' option |
| 20:52.38 | ckknight | seems odd, though, since those frames aren't protected. |
| 20:52.48 | Wraithan | Is there anyway to make the wiki wrap the code stuff... some of us don't have screens wide enough to view all of it |
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| 20:53.17 | ckknight | no, that's a bad idea. |
| 20:54.00 | Wraithan | true, just sucks to be on my laptop on the site |
| 20:54.23 | Wraithan | but found I can hide the contents window, so I think I have my problem fixed |
| 20:56.06 | ckknight | and wikified the keybinding stuff |
| 20:56.09 | ckknight | vhaarr, please test it out. |
| 20:56.20 | ckknight | note: I haven't put it in AceConsole yet |
| 20:56.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: Will do. |
| 20:56.27 | vhaarr | And I noticed, thanks. |
| 20:56.43 | ckknight | I will, later. |
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| 21:10.06 | vhaarr | ckknight: When holding down ALT and CTRL, ALT shows first, like ALT-CTRL-X, but with SHIFT, it shows as CTRL-SHIFT-X. |
| 21:10.26 | vhaarr | I'd prefer CTRL to be first always. |
| 21:11.22 | Elkano | ckknight, what did you change in FuBar today/yesterday? |
| 21:12.57 | Elkano | plugins are showing up on the wrong bar and I've got more bars on login than I had on logout |
| 21:13.27 | vhaarr | That's a known bug, unrelated to the recent checkin. |
| 21:14.11 | Elkano | well, but it did work for me all the time befor that update |
| 21:15.00 | vhaarr | So you haven't triggered that bug until now, I'm unsure what triggers it specifically, but the recent checkin is not related. |
| 21:15.31 | Elkano | doesn't stop me from blaming ck ;) |
| 21:16.02 | vhaarr | Obviously, it's his code anyway, but it's an old bug. |
| 21:20.44 | Fritti | hrm, no patch for TBC beta? |
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| 21:22.33 | Fritti | heya Tem_ |
| 21:23.23 | Tem | hi |
| 21:29.52 | Wraithan | I am not sure what I did wrong here, but I keep getting a missing "=" or "in" in this line: |
| 21:29.52 | Wraithan | for lastKilled.mobType, xp in string.gfind(arg1, self.gainExpString) do |
| 21:30.05 | Wraithan | still learning this Lua stuff |
| 21:30.45 | Wraithan | That looks to be the exact same format that I have seen in other for loop declairations |
| 21:31.03 | vhaarr | What's lastKilled.mobType? That's not how it works. |
| 21:31.14 | vhaarr | |for key, value in pairs(table) do| |
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| 21:31.30 | vhaarr | Key and Value are assigned for each iteration. |
| 21:32.16 | Wraithan | Right, I am trying to assign the value of return values form string.gfind() to those 2 variables |
| 21:32.40 | Wraithan | do I have to use a temp variable then assign it later? |
| 21:32.42 | vhaarr | Why? lastKilled.mobType will be overrided for every iteration, it makes no sense. |
| 21:33.14 | vhaarr | The temp variable is made for you automatically if the iteration occurs. |
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| 21:34.27 | Wraithan | I want to save the last mobType in that loop, and reuse the variable instead of making a variable for the loop then assigning that value |
| 21:34.43 | CIA-17 | 03beerke * r17859 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua: |
| 21:34.43 | CIA-17 | BigWigs_LoathebTactical : |
| 21:34.43 | CIA-17 | - Group Counter fixed |
| 21:35.31 | vhaarr | local lastMob = nil; for k, v in string.gfind(wtf) do lastMob = k end; if lastMob then lastKilled.mobType = lastMob end |
| 21:35.46 | Tem | you can't use lastKilled.mobType |
| 21:35.53 | Wraithan | that is useless assignment though, atleast in most languages it would be |
| 21:35.56 | Tem | also, I doubt gfind is what you want |
| 21:36.01 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 21:36.07 | kergoth | mmm turkey |
| 21:36.59 | sylvanaar | have any of you seen these errors before: http://ace.pastey.net/2682 |
| 21:37.13 | Tem | post the entire code fragment |
| 21:37.39 | Tem | Wraithan, I have HUGE doubts that you need gfind |
| 21:37.48 | haste | hmm, I need to learn basic C or something now |
| 21:37.51 | Tem | you probably want match |
| 21:38.41 | Wraithan | http://ace.pastey.net/2683 |
| 21:38.51 | Wraithan | it is a regex search and capture |
| 21:39.43 | Wraithan | I know there are lots of the this type of mod out there, I was just trying to convert it to Ace, to learn Ace and Lua |
| 21:41.32 | Tem | Wraithan, http://ace.pastey.net/submit.php |
| 21:42.23 | Wraithan | What? |
| 21:42.36 | Wraithan | Input text is not set! |
| 21:42.40 | Wraithan | is what I get from that link |
| 21:42.56 | Tem | er, sorry |
| 21:43.02 | Tem | http://ace.pastey.net/2684 |
| 21:43.20 | chris152 | is someone of you familiar with oskin? |
| 21:44.06 | Wraithan | Ah I see |
| 21:44.19 | Wraithan | I got the way I was doing it from a mod called 'Killmore' |
| 21:44.39 | Tem | yes well |
| 21:45.16 | Tem | you'll never get more than one iteration |
| 21:45.24 | Tem | so using gfind there is a waste |
| 21:45.57 | Wraithan | Ah, that does make sence |
| 21:46.04 | Wraithan | I wasn't really thinking about it I guess heh |
| 21:47.46 | sylvanaar | ok - if any of the ace2 folks have a chance to eyball the ace-oo/ace-modulecore error pastied, let me know - i dont want to be a pest |
| 21:53.25 | Wraithan | Hmm |
| 21:58.20 | Wraithan | Tem, on that line you modified, it says attempt to index global value 'arg1' (a string value). |
| 21:58.44 | Wraithan | Does that mean it is the wrong type? These error messages don't seem to be that helpful to me heh |
| 22:05.54 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r17860 10ClosetGnome_BigWigs/ClosetGnome_BigWigs.lua: |
| 22:05.54 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome_BigWigs: |
| 22:05.54 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.54 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:16.12 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r17861 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/ (. FuBar_SWStats2Fu.toc): FuBar_SWStats2Fu: embed compost? |
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| 22:17.03 | CIA-17 | 03nickenyfiken * r17862 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (. FuBar_TrainerFu.toc TrainerFu.lua TrainerFuLocals-enUS.lua): |
| 22:17.03 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 22:17.03 | CIA-17 | - Added support for localization (enUS) |
| 22:17.03 | CIA-17 | - Changed a lot of code and hopefully squashed all bugs but probably added some new :-P |
| 22:17.04 | CIA-17 | - Data storage changed a bit but upgrade from previous version should work |
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| 22:20.09 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r17863 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: bad zip |
| 22:21.49 | anenigma | O.o there's a FuBar_SWStats2Fu ... interesting |
| 22:23.31 | anenigma | looks better than my current fubar plugin too (aka shows rdps+dps in tooltip) |
| 22:23.48 | Wraithan | rdps?/ |
| 22:23.59 | Wraithan | raw? |
| 22:24.21 | anenigma | raid dps |
| 22:24.26 | Wraithan | ah kk |
| 22:24.26 | anenigma | as in total for whole raid |
| 22:24.31 | Wraithan | yeah |
| 22:24.49 | anenigma | more useful on timed fights, ala patchwerk+loatheb to an extent |
| 22:25.10 | Wraithan | I see |
| 22:25.29 | anenigma | anyway, work. |
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| 22:27.13 | sylvanaar | anenigma: sorry, i was tabbed out |
| 22:27.55 | sylvanaar | anenigma: its for sw_stats 2.0 |
| 22:30.16 | sylvanaar | anenigma: it can show those stats + exchange sw_stats configuration settings + update the 'report target' - i need feedback as to if the data exchange features are working, so if you do happen to run it let me know |
| 22:41.13 | vhaarr | ag`: Is agUF ready to show party pet frames soon? |
| 22:43.10 | kergoth | ckknight_, ping |
| 22:43.54 | ckknight_ | hey all, back |
| 22:44.00 | ckknight_ | served the retirees |
| 22:44.07 | ckknight_ | kergoth, anti-ping |
| 22:44.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight_: im getting an error every time i open cart modules\raidcolors.lua:89 attempt to index local `t' (a nil value) |
| 22:44.46 | kergoth | ckknight, functionality question, can a module of an acemodulecore itself be an acemodulecore with modules? :) |
| 22:44.49 | ckknight | vhaarr, it's not about preference, it's about how Blizzard does it. |
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| 22:45.38 | ckknight | kergoth, yes. |
| 22:45.39 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 22:45.46 | ckknight | ad nauseum |
| 22:45.59 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 22:46.05 | kergoth | i'm experiencing an odd behavior |
| 22:46.26 | vhaarr | ckknight: right |
| 22:46.43 | ckknight | vhaarr, regarding the ctrl/shift/alt order |
| 22:46.49 | vhaarr | yes |
| 22:46.52 | vhaarr | I got you. |
| 22:48.34 | ckknight | kergoth, hrm? |
| 22:48.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r17865 10Cartographer/Modules/RaidColors.lua: Cartographer-RaidColors - bugfix at line 89 |
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| 22:50.30 | ckknight_ | gah |
| 22:50.32 | ckknight_ | <ckknight> kergoth, hrm? |
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| 23:11.18 | ckknight | back |
| 23:12.15 | mjc | blah |
| 23:12.59 | ckknight | blah? |
| 23:15.31 | mjc | yeah. |
| 23:16.56 | axxo | wtb bigwigs module that yells at me when a boss fight starts and no soulstone is up |
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| 23:41.34 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r17866 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 23:41.34 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2 |
| 23:41.34 | CIA-17 | - fixed tracking icon for Track Humanoids (it's Spell_Holy_PrayerOfHealing) in Babble-Spell-2.2.lua |
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| 23:46.22 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r17867 10FuBar_PursueFu/ (. FuBar_PursueFu.lua FuBar_PursueFu.toc Locales/deDE.lua): |
| 23:46.22 | CIA-17 | FuBar_PursueFu |
| 23:46.22 | CIA-17 | - added german localization file |
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| 23:54.59 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r17868 10Skinner/Skinner.lua: Skinner: Finally fix Gradient bug, I hope |
| 23:55.27 | Tekkub | damn overpowered couch |
| 23:55.57 | haste | I know how they are, pure evil |
| 23:56.09 | haste | You walk past it, and it just one shots you |
| 23:56.33 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07TBC * r17869 10aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.lua: aUF_Banzai: Fix raid -> party unit matching. |
