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00:08.37ckknighthey all
00:09.11Bapsevening ckk
00:09.15ckknightwell, it looks like the paper I spent 3 hours on right before class was better than everyone else's there, who were supposed to have worked on this for a week and a half
00:09.22ckknightI mourn the death of literature
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00:11.32CIA-1703ckknight * r17719 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2 - added deDE, frFR, and icon for Waterbolt
00:12.38SylfiHi ckknight.
00:12.59KalamadiSooo... is Grid still broken in live?
00:13.12Funkeh`no?
00:13.18Funkeh`its just spurts error sometimes
00:13.28Funkeh`other than that it works
00:13.41KalamadiI can't get it to work at all in live. It breaks the entirety of Ace
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00:14.02KarlThePaganI have few issues
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00:14.15ckknightKalamadi, how does it break all of Ace?
00:14.31KarlThePagancertainly not "breaking" any libraries
00:14.34KalamadiI enable it, reload, and all Ace2 addons = x_x
00:14.57KarlThePaganperhaps an error string is thrown at you
00:15.01ckknightwhat error did you get?
00:15.11KalamadiNone whatsoever.
00:15.15ckknightwe're trying to work on handling errors gracefully.
00:15.22ckknightKalamadi, shouldn't happen.
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00:18.34CIA-1703neriak * r17720 10BidWatch/ (. BidWatch.lua libs/):
00:18.34CIA-17BidWatch:
00:18.34CIA-17- added externals and keywords
00:18.40Bapsckk: is there an easy way to extend the ace options list?
00:18.44Temckknight, maybe AceLibrary should safecall activation of a new minor version
00:18.56Temand keep the old if the new errors
00:18.58KarlThePaganyay for ace'd bitdwatch
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00:19.08KarlThePagans/bit/bi/
00:19.09ckknightBaps, what do you mean?
00:19.16ckknightTem, I agree, I'll work on it
00:19.22Bapsmy specific instance is I want to add an option to an already exist options menu
00:19.27Kalamadickknight: Yeah... I just installed the latest Grid, reloaded WoW, and all my Ace2 addons are dead
00:19.29KalamadiNo errors.
00:19.39TemKalamadi, check framexml.log
00:19.40ckknightBaps, yes, you can do that just fine, as long as you don't give invalid data.
00:19.51Bapsthere an example you could point me at?
00:21.12Bapswait, I think I see one in grid
00:21.16Kalamadickknight: Yeah, all addons seem to be unable to find any libraries
00:21.54KarlThePaganKalamadi - nothing in your framexml.log?
00:22.22KalamadiYes, plenty. Relating to Ace2 addons being unable to find libraries.
00:23.10KarlThePaganwhich grid version you using? from wowace.com or wowinterface?
00:23.20Kalamadiwowace
00:23.29KarlThePagank what's the -r number on your zip?
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00:23.54Kalamadi17574, if I'm looking at the right changelog
00:24.04KarlThePaganthat is the one I'm using
00:24.12KalamadiWell, I took a dive and got the latest !!!Libs
00:24.15KalamadiWorks now :/
00:25.47KarlThePaganthat's a surefire way to control which library instance you're using
00:26.01KirkburnI think it's wonderful that I now have 81 addons working on TBC, and a UI usage of only 20 meg :D
00:26.07CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r17721 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - added safecalls to activation/deactivation/external functions.
00:26.27Sylfickknight, are you the maintainer of AceComm-2.0?
00:26.30kergothi wsh 2.0 would hit already
00:26.33ckknightyes, Sylfi
00:26.38ckknightkergoth, agreed.
00:27.22SylfiI didn't know where to post bugs (and solutions) to IsCommRegistered, so I posted them on the Ace2 forums a couple days ago.
00:27.44SylfiI don't know if that post reached you.
00:27.50ckknightSylfi, oh, right
00:27.54ckknightI was having technical troubles.
00:27.58ckknightlink me?
00:28.17KirkburnHow does one get rounded rectangular Unit Frames as seen in Neebler's screenshot? http://neebler.tetro.net/images/newui.jpg
00:28.26Sylfihttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3085.0
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00:30.04CIA-1703ckknight * r17722 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - added safecalls to activation/deactivation/external functions.
00:30.21ckknightSylfi, is your stuff specific to trunk or TBC?
00:30.26KarlThePaganKirkburn deffinately agUF, but I'm not sure which layout that is
00:30.34KarlThePaganpearl texture
00:30.48Sylfitrunk I believe
00:31.24Kirkburnag`, ping :)
00:31.40KarlThePaganyou could just play with the options :P heh
00:32.00Sylfickknight, it appears the errors are in the TBC version too
00:32.04KirkburnI'm trying, I'm trying =)
00:32.33KirkburnNope, none of the standard layouts
00:32.58KarlThePagannothing at all similar? because I've been close to that
00:33.02KarlThePaganexcept for the roundedness
00:33.12ag`Kirkburn: what?
00:33.32ag`that screenshot is the default layout
00:33.33KirkburnDo you know how to get the roundness seen in this screenshot? http://neebler.tetro.net/images/newui.jpg
00:33.37ag`with portraits enabled
00:33.49KirkburnBut the rounded corners specifically :)
00:33.54ag`I can't remember the name of the bar texture
00:33.58ag`try steel
00:34.03ckknightSylfi, figured it out
00:34.47KirkburnSteel ignores me, weirdly
00:34.59KirkburnAnd I just updated ag_UF
00:35.26Sylfiwill those changes be applied to both TBC and trunk versions?
00:35.29ckknightokay, Sylfi, all taken care of.
00:35.31ckknightboth.
00:35.42Sylfithanks tons!
00:35.48CIA-1703ckknight * r17723 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - fixed :IsCommRegistered (thanks, Sylfi)
00:35.48CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r17724 10Ace2/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - fixed :IsCommRegistered (thanks, Sylfi)
00:36.00pdpihey everyone
00:36.21ckknighthey pdpi
00:36.32pdpihmmm, who should I ask about some bartender2 problems?
00:36.48KarlThePaganthe channel - someone will pipe up
00:36.57ckknightyep.
00:37.05pdpiok, cheers
00:37.34pdpiHere's the issue then: I have my bartender2 setup working just fine on my hunter and priest, but bar1 doesn't show at ALL on my warrior
00:37.52KarlThePaganhave you tried swapping stances - what happens?
00:37.58SylfiOh, I did have one question about that AceComm stuff too, it appears that the error texts saying stuff like "Argument #x" are one higher than they should be... For example IsCommRegistered only has 3 variables yet the error messages go up to arg #4. Is that a bug, or done intentionally?
00:38.01kergothckknight, think i'm gonna review the current aceoo code and see if theres any room for improvement, even in code clarity... cause that stuff i did, while flexible and spiffy once you grasp it, is pretty damn hard to grasp initially :P
00:38.09pdpinothing, all looks the same, no change
00:38.20ckknightkergoth, just realize that I did some tinkering in there.
00:38.21pdpi(it's release 15915, btw)
00:38.36kergothyeah i know you did
00:38.48ckknightSylfi, they're all like that, cause `self` is the first argument. it's a luaism
00:38.49kergothinterfaces, other stuff, the convenience __call's and stuff
00:38.57ckknightright
00:38.59Sylfikk
00:39.15ckknightkergoth, and dynamic interfaces, which are shiny, if unused.
00:39.41pdpickknight: so lua does the self reference passing the same way as python?
00:39.43ckknightwhich is actually a "concept", essentially.
00:39.43pdpicool
00:39.58ckknightpdpi, alpha:bravo() => alpha.bravo(alpha)
00:40.03pdpiyep
00:40.07ckknightessentially.
00:40.08pdpisame as python
00:40.14ckknightyea, pretty much.
00:40.21ckknightpython does it more behind-the-scenes
00:40.32pdpiso you define the method bravo as bravo(self): stuff; right?
00:40.39kergothckknight, will play around.  i like the interfaces stuff, but something in the back of my mind says theres a better way to implement it
00:40.55ckknightfunction alpha:bravo() end => function alpha.bravo(self) end => alpha.bravo = function(self) end
00:40.56kergothi dont know what that way would be, but..
00:41.02ckknightkergoth, okay.
00:41.09pdpiok, right
00:41.22pdpianyway, uncooperative bartender, stance changes don't help. ideas?
00:41.23kergothi just need something to poke at, and i love refactoring and cleanup and optimization
00:41.26kergothheh
00:41.34ckknightkergoth, I know that feeling
00:41.38ckknightokay, feels like lunchtime.
00:41.49KarlThePagandoesn't jump out at me I know that there have been changes to stance-swapping and that some other addons might try to manipulate your bars when you swap stances
00:41.56Kirkburnag`, steel completely doesn't work for me :/
00:43.02KirkburnOh, I have an idea
00:44.01KirkburnAwesome it works now
00:44.08Kirkburnag`, the file is in the wrong location
00:44.23KirkburnIt should be within Images/Bars, not just under Images
00:45.01KirkburnI tried fixing it earlier, but I fixed it on the wrong folder (my download archive, rather than the actual AddOns folder)
00:45.13KarlThePagansexyness
00:45.28KirkburnYay, Steel!
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00:46.32pdpiHmmm, a thorough examination of my AddOns folder reveals what I already thought was the case: the only addons that manipulate the action bars in any way (at least that I know of) are OmniCC and RedRange
00:47.06KarlThePaganI'd try it out, but my warrior is level 4 - is that high enough to get a new stance?
00:47.14pdpinope, 10
00:48.14KarlThePaganhm
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00:49.10vhaarrckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/2631 - I renamed AceModuleCore_ModuleCreated to Ace2_ModuleCreated. Not sure what you want to do with it, or if it's even necessary.
00:50.40vhaarrbbl
00:50.55haarmcan someone modify the tbc chronometer for me and do a commit, i don't have svn access
00:51.13haarmjust needs 1 line adding to Priest.lua
00:51.16haarmself:AddTimer(self.SPELL, BS["Vampiric Touch"],    15, 1,0,0, { rc=true })
00:51.23kergothsomeone should look into adding rogue find weakness
00:51.25kergothi tried and failed
00:51.36kergothslightly complex since its started by any finishing move
00:52.16KarlThePaganyou gain it as a buff? like remorseless?
00:53.15pdpiit's a debuff
00:53.16pdpiI think
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00:55.35pdpinope, self buff, like remorselessness indeed
00:59.19sbumeep
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01:00.46ckknightvhaarr, *shrug*
01:00.54ckknightvhaarr, I have no thoughts on the subject
01:01.09ckknightvhaarr, as long as it's documented and makes sense, it's fine by me.
01:02.53sbumhh - no 5.1 sct yet?
01:03.10kergothsbu, look on wowinterface.com :P
01:03.14kergothtbc section
01:03.37sbuoh yep
01:03.48sbubut not on svn!?
01:05.00kergoth<PROTECTED>
01:05.11sbu:)
01:07.50kergothi was using msbt, but i cant be bothered to investigate fixing it, and sct works well enough :)
01:08.52sbumh well - sct > wow-builtin, and thats enough ;)
01:09.28ckknightkergoth, I need a task...
01:09.35kergothhmm
01:10.51sbumahh
01:10.53sbudoesnt work
01:10.59sbu'setn' is obsolete messages :/
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01:11.30sbui guess this is some problem with german clients
01:11.36kergothsbu, just rmeove all the setn lines
01:11.40kergothits unnecessary in 5.1
01:13.51vhaarrckknight: I have to head for bed now. I'm unsure where you want the docs for it, but if you point me to the correct wiki entry, I'll document it tomorrow evening.
01:14.20ckknightvhaarr, AceAddon-2.0 add events for each deal, same with AceDB-2.0 and AceModuleCore-2.0
01:14.29ckknightshouldn't be hard at all
01:14.37vhaarrI know, no problem.
01:14.39ckknightjust list the name, the arguments, and any remarks
01:15.10vhaarrcheck in if you want, and I'll fix docs tomorrow
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01:22.15kergothhmm bartender3 is usable now it seems
01:22.26KirkburnYes indeed
01:22.34Kirkburn(I would say it's been usable for a while =)
01:22.45kergothwell, depends on your definition :)
01:22.56CIA-1703ckknight * r17725 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix button positions when AlphaMap isn't available
01:22.57KirkburnConfigurable, then :)
01:23.55KirkburnI can't believe I once had a UI that once took up more than twice the mem, but was less advanced :/
01:23.55kergoth:)
01:24.06Nickenyfikenhehe
01:24.06kergothhehe
01:24.10kergothckknight, alphamap?
01:24.34Nickenyfikenim at 28.8 MiB now and have been logged in for hours
01:24.40Nickenyfikenthats ok i think
01:24.41ckknightugh
01:24.44ckknightI meant AlphaScale
01:24.49ckknightI need to change the name of that.
01:25.05kergothhehe
01:25.20kergothNickenyfiken, i've seen mine go from 21.1 to 48 over the course of grinding :\
01:25.30kergothseems like the incremental gc isnt always keeping up
01:25.59CIA-1703ckknight * r17726 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceMaps.lua: Cartographer-InstanceMaps - hide go to submenu if inactive.
01:26.18Nickenyfikenit never gois over 30 MiB here i think, only when raiding maybe
01:26.25kergothckknight, i like how its just the goto menu n ow
01:26.36kergothckknight, suggestion though, have an option at top or bottom of the root menu
01:26.39kergoth"Go to player"
01:26.51kergothto get back to where i was without looking for it
01:26.55ckknightkergoth, I'll just stick that in the go to menu.
01:26.59ckknightI'd say.
01:27.04kergothyeah thats what i mean, just a root level entry in the goto menu
01:27.09ckknightah, right.
01:27.58kergothckknight, the tbc atlas has some more outland instance maps, might want to grab em
01:28.40ckknightkergoth, mmm... you can if you want.
01:28.51kergoth:) probably will
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01:29.52ckknightsounds good.
01:30.34kergothhmm thats odd, pinpoint as is doesnt seem to adjust when i switch to a different zone in cart
01:30.37kergothwonder what its waiting for
01:30.51GngskI noticed that today too actually
01:31.12ckknightCartographer_ChangeZone?
01:31.31ckknightgranted, Cartographer-Notes should switch over automatically...
01:31.34kergothyea can make it use it, just wondering what its waiting for
01:32.01kergothpinpoint doesnt use cart notes yet, as the db stuff is in the core of pinpoint, cant quickly create a module to make it use cart instead of its own db without hooking hte fuck out of it
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01:43.09CIA-1703ckknight * r17728 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/InstanceMaps.lua):
01:43.09CIA-17Cartographer - added a "Go to GetRealZoneText()" deal to the go to menu.
01:43.09CIA-17Cartographer-InstanceMaps - hooks SetMapToCurrentZone to go to an instance if it's available.
01:43.09CIA-1703sylfi * r17727 10PlayerRating/ (6 files):
01:43.09CIA-17PlayerRating:
01:43.10CIA-17- Added the option to not display ratings if they are zero (unknown/neutral).
01:43.14ckknightkergoth, PinPoint should basically be rewritten as a proper Cart module, imho
01:43.24ckknightalright, kergoth, test that out if you want.
01:45.50ckknightI'm still trying to figuer out the best way to compress the world map so that basically just the actual map is showing
01:45.54ckknightwithout the top and bottom bars
01:46.00kergothckknight, works well
01:46.02kergoththanks
01:46.33ckknight:-)
01:47.10kergoththe advantage of having pinpoint seperate is that it has modularity for display.  minimap, worldmap, etc
01:47.15kergothhmm
01:47.47ckknightkergoth, minimap will be added to cartographer when Esamynn is done his lib
01:47.49kergothcourse writing a little addon that puts up an overlay over the map to show any arbitary cartographer note shouldnt be hard :)
01:47.53kergothcool :)
01:48.00kergothwhat lib is he doing?
01:48.08ckknighta POI lib
01:48.15ckknight(using AceLibrary and everything)
01:48.32ckknightbasically I plan to use it for the minimap POIs.
01:48.38kergothah interesting
01:48.51ckknightI figure, why reinvent the wheel
01:48.56kergothsomeone will have to do a cart module to color player pins by raid group
01:49.20ckknighthrm, (pretty easy)
01:49.38ckknightyou could also make it color by class easily enough.
01:49.50kergoththatd be cool
01:49.58ckknightguess I found a project.
01:50.34ckknightwhat'll be the name?
01:52.36ckknightRaidColors it is.
01:52.54ckknightgood thing about these is that I can rename the modules without losing mindshare.
01:55.09kergothis there a constant for the max player level?
01:55.16ckknightyea
01:55.18ckknightMAX_PLAYER_LEVEL
01:55.23ckknightwho'da thunk?
01:55.25kergothhahah
01:55.40ckknightit's 70 in PTR and Beta
01:55.56ckknighteven though in PTR it's _really_ 60.
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01:56.06ckknightor it should be 60
01:58.12kergoththats silly
01:58.19ckknightsure is.
01:59.08haarmlongshot, but is there a mod...that tells you which tradeskill recipes you're missing? :p
01:59.15kergothlook at School
01:59.27kergothitll not only tell you what you can train where, itll tell you what you can now learn as your skill rises
01:59.27haarmty
01:59.50haarmi have 300/300, but I'm missing 1-2 recipes and scanning through and alt tabbing is a pain in the arse
02:00.54haarmone of them is a world drop, also obtainable by fishing... also a pain in the arse
02:01.17kergothahh
02:01.19kergothschool only helps with trainers
02:01.23kergothyoiu probably want RecipeRadar
02:01.28kergothitll show you vendor stuff
02:01.28KalamadiYaaay for addons randomly breaking
02:01.37KalamadiHealWatch now does nothing at all :/
02:01.44haarmthat sounds more like it :p
02:02.29kergothKalamadi, well, there should now be spellcast events for the party, the fancy stuff healwatch did is likely no longer necessary, no?
02:02.36Azurewrathckknight: mhm.. just a thought.. how about implenting a FuBar Plugin in Cartographer, to replace LocationFu with it completely? :)
02:04.45Kalamadikergoth: To a degree.
02:04.47ckknightno.
02:04.52ckknightwhat's the point, Azurewrath?
02:05.58Azurewrathmhm, users could dump LocationFu.. at this point the option to show coordinates on Map etc. is present in both addons
02:06.24ckknight~framexml
02:06.32purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip
02:06.33Kalamadikergoth: So...I'm just going to have to make a glorified Dewdrop bar when 2.0.1 comes out, eh?
02:06.39ckknightAzurewrath, so turn that off in LocationFu. LocationFu does more than just map manipulation
02:07.19Azurewrathi know, i know.. as i said, was just a thought :)
02:07.32ckknightand Cartographer does only map manipulation
02:11.32Tekkubany endgame shaman here?
02:11.39Tekkubneed help classifying the 70 sets
02:11.47Tekkubone's obviously healer...
02:12.19Tekkubone has spell crit, stam, int, and spell damage
02:12.41ckknightblah. the framexml extractor doesn't work for me, cause I don't have the registry key for TBC
02:12.45ckknightanybody have theirs?
02:12.55Tekkubother's melee crit, str, stam, agi, int, and spell damage
02:13.22nymbiackknight: the framexml data, or the registry key?
02:13.24Tekkubshould I call those Magic DD and Melee DD?
02:13.26AzurewrathTekkub: Somani is, but he's asleep now.. guess you can reach him in about.. err. ~15 hours ;)
02:13.36ckknightnymbia, the registry key
02:13.48nymbialemme dig around for it, one sec
02:14.02Tekkubhow do the shaman talent trees work out?  Healer, magic and melee?
02:14.30TekkubI mean... what roles can a shaman take...
02:14.32Azurewrathjup.. Restoration(?), Elemental and Enhancement
02:15.04Azurewrathhe can be a Healer, a Magic DD, a Melee DD, a Melee-Supporter.. :)
02:15.37Tekkubokey well since the T4 sets sure seem to be laid out like the talent trees, I'm going to label them as such
02:15.44Azurewrathbut i'm not that experienced with the shaman class.. better ask a Shaman Player :)
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02:20.07haarmkergoth I hate you :(
02:20.15kergoth?
02:20.17haarmJust found like 50 recipes I don't have
02:20.17haarm:p
02:20.20kergothlol
02:20.35kergothreciperadar is nice. not something you'd want running all the time since its somewhat heavy, i just load it when i need it
02:21.21kergothwoot, specialtalent working now - http://kergoth.com/images/wow_070.jpg
02:21.49kergothneed to fix the textures on the frame though
02:22.20haarmyea I'm gonna run end to end each continent now and buy what I can
02:22.34haarmbut it doesn't reuse textures, which is what makes it heavy
02:23.13ckknightkergoth, know of any other addons that color raid POIs?
02:23.19ckknightjust for clarity's sake.
02:23.20haarmmight be a nice project to convert to ace
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02:24.33ckknighthey Amadeo
02:27.18Amadeosup ck
02:27.47kergothckknight, partyspotter
02:27.54kergothi dont use it anymore, but i used to
02:27.57kergothlong ago
02:28.27ckknightk
02:29.16kergothgah!
02:29.21kergothrunning tbc and normal wow at the same time
02:29.23kergothboth minimized
02:29.27kergothi hear "Aggro!"
02:29.30kergothand dont know which one it is.
02:30.29ckknightlol.
02:33.09ckknighthow's this... it changes the POIs to be colored numbers
02:33.11ckknightcolor is class
02:33.14ckknightnumber is raid group
02:33.16ckknighthrm?
02:34.39kergoththat sounds cool
02:34.49kergothmeh, this texture stuff confuses me
02:34.51kergothtexcoords and all
02:36.34Arrowmasterkergoth, how do you have sounds while minimized?
02:36.49kergothgood point, it mustve been tbc
02:37.00kergoththeres an option in the sound opts in beta to enable sounds in the background
02:37.02ckknightactually 1.12 allows for minimized sounds.
02:37.04ckknightafaik.
02:37.06kergothdoes it?
02:37.08kergothhmm
02:37.15ckknighton my comp, at least
02:37.22ckknightonly when fully minimized, though
02:37.29Arrowmasterwtf?
02:37.41Arrowmasteri want it to work when alttabed
02:38.36AmadeoLooks like people are finally starting to target MacOS for exploits
02:38.52Amadeohttp://secunia.com/advisories/23012/
02:42.30ckknightArrowmaster, it does in TBC
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02:53.49kergothis there a good doc somewhere explaining texcoords?
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02:57.42Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Cyclone_Regalia
02:57.44Tekkub^^
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03:12.57ckknightclasstime
03:13.09CIA-1703ckknight * r17729 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
03:13.09CIA-17Cartographer - added RaidColors - note: needs textures (basically 8 textures
03:13.10CIA-17black on white circle with a number in the middle, plus a single white circle,
03:13.10CIA-17should go in RaidColorsArtwork\\Group1-8 and RaidColorsArtwork\\Normal)
03:13.18ckknightplztest
03:13.23ckknightand if someone has time, make circles.
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03:21.02Funkeh`nn folks
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03:38.57haarmhm, I wonder how you can tell if someone has TBC or not, because certainly not everyone will buy it. Is the name in the build string different ?
03:39.38haarmfor informational mods (such as those with item databases), might be worth making the TBC portions LoadOnDemand?
03:40.54Maldiviawhy should non-tbc have a different item database than tbc users?
03:45.44CIA-1703sayclub * r17730 10Cartographer/Modules/ (InstanceNotes/koKR.lua RaidColors.lua): Cartographer - Update locals koKR
03:49.12haarmMaldivia, maybe it's more specific to my idea than I thought, I was considering convertign RecipeRadar, and updating it to include TBC vendors, obviously non-tbc players wont be able to access those vendors
03:49.38haarmso what would be the point in having that extra information loaded
03:49.57Maldiviawhat is the point of having the engineering data loaded, if I'm a tailor?
03:50.12haarmindeed ;)
03:50.30haarmI think people are scared of multiple directories though
03:50.36Maldiviathey generally are
03:50.49haarmif they see 10 dirs for 1 addon, they'll think it's inefficient, when inface the reverse is true.
03:51.57Maldiviabut the question is, if it's worth making a seperate LoD addon for it, or just make it a section in the init code, that it doesnt add the data, if the account is not TBC flagged
03:52.13nymbiafor something like profession data, it's efficient enough to just nil out the data for the professions you aren't using.  course, it still hurts your warmup count, but nothing beyond that.
03:52.41haarmI'm not really that familiar with the loading process
03:53.16haarmnymbia, or simple not include it to be nilled out
03:53.20MentalPowernymbia: unless you cheat :P
03:53.28Maldiviahaarm: or perhaps enable/disable the recipees, depending on which skill level you are, so you wont see the TBC patterns unless you have the Master skill
03:53.34MentalPowerniling and collectgarbage()
03:54.30haarmok, so help me out here, what would be the difference between having the data in an if clause, and having it statically loaded then nilling and garbage collecting
03:54.33MaldiviaAddon memory footprint: -1000kb
03:54.35nymbiaMentalPower: true ;)
03:54.51haarmcouldn't you just re-call the init when the next level is attained ?
03:54.53Maldiviahaarm: in the end: nothing
03:55.09nymbiaMentalPower: but i'm not sure if spellbook data is available that early in the load.
03:55.11haarmok :)
03:55.19MentalPowerah true that is
03:55.31haarmwell that example wouldn't matter, you'd still want to see future attainable recipes
03:56.09haarmand you could always initialise the database after the loading, or even the first time the user tries to access the data
03:56.17Maldiviathen again, people might be annoyed, if they see a pattern on the AH, but its not listed int he addon, since it's obtained ina TBC zone
03:56.48haarmdepends if its learnable
03:56.52haarmhmm
03:56.56haarmrequires some thought :p
03:57.07Maldiviathere are several 300 skill patterns available from TBC vendors
03:57.22Maldiviaor available from quest, that are not BoP
03:59.26haarmI guess seperating by profession would be the best way in the end then
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04:00.59haarm4am, time for a coffee and a sandwich, back later ;p
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04:01.33Tekkubokey, either this stupid cat got in a good fight
04:01.45Tekkubor he got in some maroon paint
04:02.07Tekkuband seeing as he's acting all hyper annoying and not in pain when I try to clean it, I think it's paint
04:05.47Temlol
04:05.57Temmaybe it's the other cat's blood
04:09.09haarmbut that does raise the question... what has he been decorating?
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04:37.04mjchum, wasn't there a necronomicon rewrite somewhere?
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04:43.07kergothmjc, get anywhere on that transfer?
04:43.12kergothmm sunchips
04:43.17mjcpending.
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04:56.13CIA-17dgks: Added duel support.
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05:22.53CIA-17MainAssist:
05:22.53CIA-17- Custom Tanks now properly show when in a party
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05:28.39CIA-1703fleetfoot 07TBC * r17734 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/ (7 files):
05:28.39CIA-17BigTrouble:
05:28.39CIA-17- Should work with tbc now.
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05:42.25haarmpsst
05:43.30haarmWhen you declare a new AddOn using Blah = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("libraries"), why do some AddOns have  Blah:SetModuleMixins("libraries") too ?
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05:45.48haarmnm, I should learn to use search on the wiki
05:53.37CIA-1703malreth 07TBC * r17735 10!StopTheSpam/!StopTheSpam/ (. !StopTheSpam.toc README.txt Ruleset.lua StopTheSpam.lua):
05:53.37CIA-17!StopTheSpam:
05:53.37CIA-17- Rewritten to use only the AceHook mixin.
05:53.38CIA-17- Updated externals.
05:53.38CIA-17- New interface version for TBC beta.
05:53.39CIA-17- Relies on a late-firing event instead of a scheduled timer to shut off the filter.
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05:58.51zLa`:O
05:59.00zLa`i was wondering if anyone had a sec to help me :/
05:59.15nymbiaask away
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06:22.35CIA-1703nargiddley 07TBC * r17736 10MainAssist/MainAssist/ (MainAssist.lua MainAssist.toc MainAssist_enUS.lua):
06:22.35CIA-17MainAssist:
06:22.35CIA-17- Added SurfaceLib
06:22.35CIA-17- Bar Textures are now customizable
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06:34.49haarm:( attempt to index 'db' a nil field. I did a RegisterDB, and RegisterDefaults('profile', { value = false }, but trying to access self.db.profile.value returns that error. Any ideas?
06:35.49kergothyou are mixing in acedb, right?
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06:36.59haarmReceptarist = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0",
06:37.03haarmyup
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06:44.45haarmnever mind, it's my fault, trying to use self in .OnMenuRequest
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07:16.29Frittiwoot! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=41885947&sid=1
07:16.43Frittinevcairiel! Mikma! check it out :)
07:18.53Arrowmasterheh thats funny, you can talk to the other team in general chat inside arenas if theyre the same faction
07:19.15[FH]Birdemanithat should fix the keybind issue?
07:20.35CIA-1703kodewulf * r17737 10Toolbox-1.0/ (Toolbox-1.0/Toolbox-1.0.lua Toolbox-1.0.toc):
07:20.35CIA-17Toolbox-1.0
07:20.35CIA-17! TBC compatible
07:20.35CIA-17<PROTECTED>
07:20.35CIA-17<PROTECTED>
07:20.36CIA-17* Updated Reverse function to be TBC compatible
07:20.38CIA-17* Updated TOC to make Toolbox-1.0 work in TBC
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07:21.58Fritti[FH]Birdemani: I have hopes it will
07:22.05Frittibut we'll know when it hits beta I guess
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07:22.22Frittiat least Slouken is willing to make it easier for us to create new actionbars
07:22.32Frittiseeing as reusing the Blizzard ones is now impossible that's the next best thing
07:25.34[FH]Birdemanihopefully there is a push soon so we can test out and finally have working action bars
07:27.01ckknighthey all
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07:29.02mjchmm
07:30.03mjcwhere would I go to grind my lock from 14->25
07:31.05ckknightmjc, Ally or Horde?
07:31.15mjchorde
07:31.56mjc<PROTECTED>
07:32.03ckknightBarrens or Silverpine until 20
07:32.09ckknightSilverpine, then.
07:32.11mjck
07:32.29mjcside of tarren mills?
07:32.38ckknightwest of tarren mills
07:32.44ckknightright south of tirisfal
07:33.01mjcty
07:33.09ckknight14->25 or was that a typo for 24->25?
07:33.26mjc14->25
07:33.32ckknightokay
07:33.37ckknightSilverpine till 20.
07:33.59mjck
07:37.28nevcairielFritti: thats already been in when i started writing
07:37.50chuckghttp://nevermind.org/
07:37.52chuckgOops.
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07:38.34ckknightmjc, unless you're in TBC, then I'd probably say Ghostlands would be doable as well
07:38.37ckknightup to you
07:38.58XLVII~seen Neebler
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07:43.30Frittinevcairiel: oh
07:43.54ckknightwhy is no one on TBC horde?
07:44.20FrittiUS ckknight?
07:44.23Frittior EU?
07:44.57Frittinevcairiel: you're right, I didn't check the date
07:45.10Fritticould've sworn it didn't work that way though. off to test then.
07:45.20ckknightUS
07:45.29nevcairielyou can just inherit that and you will have a working actionbutton
07:45.41Frittiwell it works except for the hotkey part, which is still evil
07:45.41nevcairielbut i didnt like it, because i couldnt customize it enough
07:45.51nevcairielso i rebuild it .)
07:46.04Elkanobtw: how good is AceCom's compression? any estimated factors of shrinkage?
07:46.15Frittickknight: EU here, sorry :(
07:46.32ckknightElkano, depends on the situation and how often you memoize.
07:46.48ckknightElkano, I'd check out the serialization spec, it lists specifics.
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07:49.55Elkanowell, I wondered if eg implementing 7z in lua would be beneficial
07:51.04JensHow would you use compression for addons?
07:51.20nevcairielfor sending data between players
07:51.29JensI see.
07:51.31nevcairielserialised arrays and such
07:51.58ckknightElkano, frankly, I doubt it, because the memory/cpu to compress/decompress on both sides probably isn't worth the bandwidth gains.
07:53.28haarmwow has zlib built in anyway, probably doesn't use it for addon messages though
07:54.18Elkanowell, iirc there is only a very small bandwidth. If I plan to eg send a whole chars data (stats, gear, skills, ...) it would take quiet some time if I don't want to cause a dc because of traffic, wouldn't it?
07:55.29haarmi'm sure you could come up with a compressed format
07:55.36haarmas opposed to actually implementing compression
07:56.09Elkanowell, but sending a compressed format compressed could lead to additional benefit
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07:57.09haarmif you have a limited charset, you could convert it to a higher base, for example, say your data was purely numerical, converting it to base64 would have minor overhead and would result in a smaller piece of data to send
07:57.44ckknightElkano, gear will be fast since itemlinks are memoized.
07:58.02haarmyea all you need is the itemid + enchantid
07:58.11haarmand possibly random attribute id
07:58.32haarmbut those in fixed width fields, change the base, hey presto, compressed item
07:58.36haarm*put
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08:00.50Elkanoor is there any addon that allows to view other guild members chars ingame? I was thinking about building a packet that has the whole data and sign it with a secret key. the guildmate gives out the public key so anyone in guild could forward the packet later without breaking trust in the data
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08:01.27Elkano(maybe I should stop going to security lectures to stop such stupid ideas ;) )
08:02.19haarmwhy bother?
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08:11.53Tekkub"Jumping off the highest point of Mount Hyjal will land you in Felwood, presumably in the form of a stepped-on tomato unless you use a timely paladin bubble or feather fall."
08:13.14CIA-1703ckknight * r17739 10Cartographer/RaidColorsArtwork/ (10 files): Cartographer-RaidColors - added artwork.
08:13.29ckknight^--- test that, it looks really nice, actually.
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08:17.04ckknightbasically turns all your party's and your raid's POIs into circles colored based on class, and shows a number on em based on their raid group.
08:18.33ckknightand instead of making new textures like some other mods seem to, it just replaces the standard textures that are already there on the world map.
08:19.56CIA-1703elkano * r17740 10Teknicolor/Teknicolor.toc: Teknicolor - added Ace2 and Babble-2.2 as OptionalDeps
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08:25.41ckknightalright, don't know what to do now.
08:31.58haarmmake a library
08:32.10Meiungawd i hate hunters :d
08:33.36ckknightmeiun, how this time?
08:33.53Meiunklick button "big and red"
08:33.55Meiuni die :(
08:34.05TekkubI thought we could use CastSpellByName OOC
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08:35.12ckknightTekkub, they changed it.
08:35.17ckknightcause they're mean.
08:35.20Tekkubdot dot dot ...
08:35.43Tekkubwill they make up theri fucking minds
08:35.57haarmwhat's the deal with not being able to open the spellbook in combat, or is that some horrible mod i have?
08:36.54ckknighthaarm, hrm, you should be able to, but just not interact with it.
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08:37.20Nargiddleyi can open it and cast from it in combat
08:37.34haarmto be honest, i havn't tried it mod free, probably some shitty mod tainting something somewhere then
08:37.41ckknightprobably.
08:37.57Nargiddleytaint is going to be a big prob :/
08:38.09haarmmm, i didn't update ace2 lately, might be the old acecomm ?
08:38.16Tekkubbut I like my taint
08:42.15ckknighthaarm, possible.
08:48.58Elkanockknight, port Glory, HonorFu, BGFu to 2.0 ;)
08:49.23ckknightElkano, I don't know how, I haven't tried out any 2.0 honor-related stuff.
08:49.51Elkanome neither :/ btw: BGFu could show some nice Candy on screen ;)
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08:55.57Arrowmasterbg scoreboard needs to be sortable
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09:03.17haarmElkano, did you fix buffbars yet so it doesn't freeze TBC during entering the world?
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09:03.32Arrowmasterbut it might just be because im bugged and cant move or see the world
09:03.34FtH|eaglehi
09:05.56Frittihmm, how do I get rid of a stale hook? as in, I've hooked it in my OnEnable, I call unhook in my OnDisable, but when I re-enable AceHook complains about a stale hok
09:06.03Frittiis it possible to unhook SecureHooks?
09:06.09Temno
09:06.16Temthe best you can do is deactivate them
09:06.38Frittiright, that explains
09:06.53Frittiso I'd SecureHook in my OnInit then?
09:07.01[Ammo]morning
09:07.18Temhell if I know
09:07.28TemI don't advise using SecureHook at all
09:07.33Frittihmm ok
09:07.42Frittihow come?
09:07.47Elkanohaarm, look at it's log ^^ the loginbug was solved on friday or saturday I think... the rest yesterday *hides*
09:07.47Tembecause it's not cheap
09:08.04Elkanobtw, I had to smile when reading this:
09:08.04ElkanoWill it be possible to kill Illidan in the Burning Crusade?
09:08.04ElkanoIllidan doesn't think so. As a matter of fact, he's probably thinking about destroying your character for simply entertaining the thought.
09:08.11Temit should only be used when absolutely necessary
09:08.33Frittiok
09:08.35Temand really, you should be able to do just about anything *without* hooking
09:08.54Frittilet me tell you what I'm trying to do then
09:08.57Temif you find yourself imediately thinking "I should hook X," reevaluate your solution
09:08.59Arrowmasterhmm so im in org but the world didnt load so i just see a blue void and people, i cant move, and i cant logout because it says "You can't logout now."
09:09.05Elkanowell, iirc you don't have to unhook OnDisable anyways, do you?
09:09.12TemArrowmaster, /script ForceQuit()
09:09.18ckknightFritti, unhooking is the same as deactivating, as far as OnHook is concerned.
09:09.27FrittiI'm reusing ActionBarButtonTemplate and I need to fix up the hotkey text for the buttons in ActionButtion_UpdateHotkeys
09:09.34Temdon't bother
09:09.38Frittimore specifically, I need my code to set the correct hotkey after the blizz one has run
09:09.40ckknightAceHook*
09:09.51Temyou're refering to TBC, right?
09:09.53Frittibecause the blizz function doesn't work for me
09:09.54Frittiyes
09:09.58Temyeah don't bother
09:10.01CIA-1703ammo * r17742 10Teknicolor/ (Teknicolor.toc libs/): Teknicolor: AceLocale removed, not used anyway
09:10.10Frittiso how do I run my code after that blizz function then?
09:10.10Temmore action bar changes that aren't patched yet
09:10.23Arrowmasterhow doesnt the blizz function not work?
09:10.38TemArrowmaster, it doesn't always know the right keybind atm
09:10.41Frittiit uses :GetID() and it derives the hotkey from button.buttonType which isn't correct
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09:10.51Temwhat he said
09:10.57haarmElkano, did you fix the bug where you can't choose bar textures? :p
09:10.58ckknight[Ammo], Teknicolor uses Babble-Class, which uses AceLocale
09:11.07FrittiTem: but it's good to hear that there are more changes coming up
09:11.11Temanyway, more changes to the action buttons are coming down the pipe
09:11.13Temjust be patient
09:11.35Frittibut I'd really like to release a version of AckBar that works a bit better in TBC
09:11.45Frittiso I'll just hook, and return when not enabled
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09:12.03TemFritti, I'm pretty sure AceHook does that for you
09:12.07haarmI had some really weird hotkey issues with it fritti, when using the mousewheel to scroll between bars
09:12.12[Ammo]ckknight: oh, well then it should use 2.2
09:12.13FrittiTem: k, will test then
09:12.18[Ammo]I gues
09:12.20[Ammo]2.0 is bull :p
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09:12.24Temwhen I said 'you can't unhook' I meant with direct use of hooksecurefunc
09:12.41Frittihaarm: I disabled action bar paging in the next version, AckBar wasn't meant to be used with paging. Need to think about the correct way to implement that
09:12.51FrittiTem: ah, no, sorry. I'm using AceHook-2.1
09:13.00Temyes, I know
09:13.13TemI was being.... dense
09:13.38TemI fear that people will use hooksecurefunc too liberally and cause problems
09:13.39Frittino matter, guess you get asked too many hook questions nowadays anyway :)
09:13.51ckknightFritti, unhooking works fine.
09:13.59Temhooking is a minefield of taint
09:14.01ckknightyes, and down with liberals.
09:14.07CIA-1703ammo * r17743 10Teknicolor/ (Teknicolor.toc libs/): Teknicolor: Use AceLocale-2.2
09:15.22ckknighthehe
09:16.25Temyes, dirty leftists
09:18.40CIA-1703ammo * r17744 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs: (4 Horsemen) - attempt to fix the mark mess
09:19.06Temit's never a good sign when you use the word 'attempt' in a commit
09:19.09Tem=P
09:20.09[Ammo]well I think I fixed it :p
09:20.12[Ammo]but it's kinda hard
09:20.21[Ammo]I have to fix the problem from reading debugger logs of people
09:20.31[Ammo]who might have fucked up versions running in the raid
09:21.19Temewwwwwww
09:21.21Temag`
09:21.27Temuse OnAttributeChanged
09:21.39TemDONT hook the secure template functions
09:23.08[Ammo]disembedded all my addons yesterday, helps quite a lot when you have a shitty harddrive
09:24.22[Ammo]halved my loding time
09:24.31XLVIIdoes anyone know where i cna get that um..
09:24.37XLVII.bat file that deletes libraries?
09:25.00TemI wrote one of those once
09:25.05Tembut I missed a tiny bug
09:25.28Temand it deleted my entire Addons directory because it thought it was a library
09:25.46[Ammo]haha
09:26.02FtH|eaglelol
09:27.19ElkanoAmmo, I've done that a long time before since my HD also is crap :/
09:28.31[Ammo]it reduced my loading time by 50%
09:30.11CIA-1703nargiddley 07TBC * r17745 10MainAssist/MainAssist/MainAssist.lua: MainAssist: Fixed typo sometimes stopping the assist being found in the custom list
09:30.56Nargiddleyyay for typos causing way too much debugging :/
09:41.14FrittiI hate the 980 character limit. It limits the usefulness of the stack traces :(
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09:44.59Frittimeh. Now I've got a nearly working bar but when starting combat from stealth I get a tainted error
09:45.04Frittihttp://ace.pastey.net/2636
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09:47.39Frittihowever I don't hook OnEvent myself, that's the securebuttontemplate
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09:48.49Elkanobtw: anyone of you using my FramesResized?
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09:50.25NargiddleyFritti: are you hooking anything ?
09:51.10Frittiin general? or on those buttos?
09:51.12Frittibuttons*
09:51.16Nargiddleythose buttons
09:51.28Frittinope
09:51.31Nargiddleyhm :/
09:51.47Frittionly inheriting from SecureActionButtonTemplate, ActionBarButtonTemplate
09:52.00Frittiand I set the "OnAttributeChanged" script using :SetScript
09:52.21Nargiddleythat could be doing it
09:52.29Nargiddleysince its in the call stack
09:52.57Frittiyeah, but the thing is, I need that before the whole thing works :(
09:53.19Frittinot sure whether it taints, but that might be it then
09:53.21Nargiddleywhat are you trying to do in it ?
09:53.30Frittinothing, just setting it to ActionButton_Update
09:53.52Frittii.e. it doesn't run code from AckBar.lua, only things in FrameXML
09:53.54FrittiI just set the handler
09:54.00Nargiddleyif its any code or variable that is set from an insecure function it'll do it
09:54.24Nargiddleypretty sure that'll be tainted
09:54.32Frittihrm
09:54.38Frittithing is, I based this on CogsBar
09:54.44Fritti(example code from Cogwheel)
09:54.54Frittiand that appears to work
09:55.18Frittiexcept his is setting the attribute in the XML but I don't think that's a difference wrt tainting
09:55.41Nargiddleysounds like it might be
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09:56.20Nargiddleyi'm pretty sure that any time a variable is written to, it inherits the taint of the code doing it
09:57.04TemFritti, you can't manually set the handler
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09:57.21TemANYTHING you do is tainted
09:57.29Temthat includes your xml
09:57.41Frittiok, I can see that, but then CogsBar would have the same problem I guess?
09:58.07Temif you want something to have a handler and for that handler to run trusted, you have to inherit that from secure code
09:58.13Frittihere's the part where I'm going to agree with the 'don't bother' comment from a while back I guess
09:58.34TemCogsBar is inheriting the handler from a trusted template, though. Isn't it?
09:58.44Frittithe version I downloaded sets it in the XML
09:59.02FrittiCogsActionButtonTemplate, <OnAttributeChanged> just calls ActionButton_Update()
09:59.40Temthen his should have the same problem
09:59.44Frittiok
10:00.04Frittithen I agree about the 'don't bother' part
10:00.09Temheh
10:00.15FrittiI need Blizzard changes to make new action bars work
10:00.29Temhopefully we'll get a patch tomorrow
10:00.39Frittieither that or do as nevcairiel did and reinvent the whole ActionBarButton template
10:01.00Tempersonally, I'd use the visual-only template
10:01.07nevcairielthats what i did
10:01.23Frittiyes.. but my goal is to reuse as much Blizzard code as possible
10:01.26NargiddleyI've mostly worked with the UnitButton templates, cant help much on action buttons
10:01.42Frittiif I need to rewrite it all I'll just use BT3 :)
10:01.46nevcairielhehe
10:02.08TemNargiddley, you realized that SecureUnitButtonTemplate is a slightly specialized verion of SecureActionButtonTemplate, right?
10:02.14Nargiddleyyeah
10:02.37Tem... or maybe they're siblings now...
10:02.39Frittiwell I'll at least commit the "working" version... it'll spam you with 24 errors but it works :)
10:02.41Temso many changes
10:02.54Temmy brain can't keep track
10:03.10Nargiddleynah its got a couple tiny changes
10:03.37Nargiddleyits the headers that would be the huge difference
10:03.48Temthat's what I'm talking about
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10:04.08TemThere's 3 or 4 SecureTemplates that don't even exist anymore
10:04.36Temanyway, I'm too braindead to continue messing with this
10:04.47TemI'm officially annoyed with StaticPopups
10:04.56Nargiddleysounds like i dont want to try to figure it all out right now if its going to change anyway
10:05.08Temthey're pretty stable now
10:05.21Temonly changes they are likely to have from this point are minor tweaks
10:05.47FrittiTem: thanks for the help so far, looking forward to this being more reusable :)
10:05.47Tem2.0.0 is locked and 2.0.1 is probably locked as well
10:06.20Nargiddleyah well, my tank frames are working. I've got enough of it sorted for now
10:06.24Temone sec Fritti, I wanna check something to make sure
10:06.38FrittiI'm still here
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10:08.24Elkanoservers back up in eu, let's check my pvp rank :)
10:08.44TemFritti, yep, part of the stuff coming down the pipe definately fixes the hotkey issue
10:08.46Elkano(and if my recode of FramesResized works)
10:08.53FrittiTem: woot
10:09.11Temwanted to make sure I wasn't getting your hopes up for nothings
10:09.14Frittithanks
10:09.30Temit's discussed in a thread on the boards somewhere
10:09.38CIA-1703fritti 07TBC * r17746 10AckBar/AckBar/ (AckBar.lua Bindings.xml): (log message trimmed)
10:09.38CIA-17AckBar:
10:09.39CIA-17- go back to reusing the MultiActionBar buttons; it appears that this is still possible
10:09.39CIA-17- fix hotkey display issues
10:09.39CIA-17- reuse the default Blizzard hotkey stuff as much as possible; this means that the same hotkeys will be used for the corresponding bars in AckBar and the MultiActionBars
10:09.42CIA-17- this version still has a problem with stance switching in combat; tainting
10:09.44CIA-17occurs due to the ActionButton templates not doing enough on initialization.
10:10.06Temif you wanna find it to see more, that is
10:10.11Temanyway, real sleepy
10:10.12Frittilooking right now
10:10.27TemI don't even have the link ><
10:11.03Frittiwell goodnight, I'll see it when it hits beta
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10:11.43Elkanook, at least another week bofore I'll buy my mount... still not R3 :/
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10:53.19hastewooho, irc at school :3
10:54.40Mikmaiip
10:54.45Mikmahaste-irc, run!
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10:59.57[Androx]hi..someone here? need help with ag_unitframes
11:00.28hasteMikma: hehe
11:00.51hastethis is a nice rotue tho'
11:01.16hastechaining SSHs to get here :p
11:07.06Mikmaandremar: whats that??
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11:15.04Frittiright, now I'm fully convinced. CogsBar also generates tainted errors when entering combat from out of stealth
11:17.07Mikmanevcairiel: cooldowncount xD
11:17.17Mikmanevcairiel: you're tryin to please evereyone i see hehee
11:17.27[Androx]cann help me someone with aq_unitframes? get an error each time
11:17.56Mikmaandremar: update it and libraries. also deleting SV's might help
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11:20.59Tekkuberf
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11:22.42MikmaTekkub: nerf you too
11:22.47Tekkub:P
11:22.50Tekkubbored
11:23.03Mikmasame same
11:23.05Tekkubfrackers here, waiting for their boss to show up so they can leave
11:23.16Meiun528yards, beat me
11:23.16Mikmai was plannning on playing with my shaman now that my headache is easying up
11:23.16Meiunhttp://onemorelevel.com/games3/double-wires.swf
11:23.18Meiun;d
11:23.21Tekkubdid I mention they leave in 5 min according to the board?
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11:25.41Tekkubbleh
11:26.01Mikmawhat are frackers
11:26.08Tekkubheh
11:26.12Tekkubuhm
11:26.21Tekkubhow to splain...
11:26.33Mikmafuckers with nicer format?
11:26.43Mikmalet's see what wikipedia says
11:26.46Tekkubthey go out and stimulate oil wells
11:27.00Tekkubso that they get more creamy goodness out of it
11:27.24Mikmahehe
11:27.27Mikmaperv
11:27.33Tekkubthey pump shit into the well to fracture it and get more oil out
11:27.50Tekkubyou wouldn't believe how perverse the terminology is around here
11:28.14Mikmawell if you work around with dudes like that.. no wonder :d
11:28.15Tekkub"stimulate" is the exact word they use
11:28.26TekkubI've only been here like 3 weeks
11:28.32[Androx]can i use mobhealth3_blizzardframes for ag_unitframes?
11:28.45Mikma[Androx]: try it and tell us :)
11:28.55[Androx]-.-
11:29.06MikmaTekkub: so have you enjoyed the place so far?
11:29.15Tekkubit's..... interesting
11:29.27Tekkubat least most of the time I dont' have to deal with anything
11:29.40Tekkuband they do employ lots of "bubbas"
11:29.49Silviu-[Androx] for ag_uf u need only Mobhealth3 nothing more :)
11:29.51Mikmahehee
11:30.07Tekkubhell, one of the frack sups likes to wander around with his hands behind his head...
11:30.14Tekkuband he wears too small shirts
11:30.25Tekkubso his belly hangs out the bottom when he does that
11:30.42Mikma:D
11:31.16Mikmanow i got the picture in my head
11:33.45Tekkubthe other frac sup is cute too
11:33.48Tekkubthe one that's here now
11:36.31Mikmadamn. should i play with shaman or start dishing
11:37.01Tekkubdishing?
11:37.18Gngskdoin' the dishes?
11:37.20Mikmaheh. wash the dishes
11:37.42Mikmaor option c, take a nap
11:37.51TekkubI vote for d
11:38.02Mikmatake the dog out?
11:38.11Tekkubdrink some windex to stop yourself from streaking
11:38.23Mikmawhat's windex? :D
11:38.51ElkanoQ: How would I put this into a CreateFrame? <LootButton name="LootButton5" inherits="LootButtonTemplate" id="5" parent="LootFrame_MidTextures">
11:38.57sbuhm kergoth? you there?
11:39.00Gngskhttp://www.windex.com/?from=RMC_94_spot&hs40=_BEEFENAdGkLaLN&hs42=AQ5BWx&hs43=scj49&
11:39.04ElkanoCurrently I have: CreateFrame("LootButton", "LootButton5", LootFrame_MidTextures, "LootButtonTemplate")
11:39.06Mikmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windex
11:39.26sbuwhats that setn stuff? and why is it still there? :) (aka when is it going to be removed - wow 2.0 will be there in ~2 weeks i guess) ;p
11:39.39Elkanobut how to set the id and is "LootButton" allowed?
11:40.15FrittiElkano: :SetID(5) after creation
11:40.22FrittiI don't know if LootButton is a frame type
11:40.29Frittiif it worked in XML it works in that call
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11:42.01Frittiappears to be valid: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#LootButton
11:42.52Elkanook, so only thing to resize left is QuestLog :)
11:43.37CIA-1703jerry 07jerry * r17749 10lern2count/lern2count/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
11:43.37CIA-17lern2count:
11:43.37CIA-17_ fixed most addons support.
11:43.37CIA-17_ Works correctly for Bongos, Bartender3, Nurfed and Ida.
11:43.37CIA-17_ Still a glitch with DAB of count sometimes disappearing.
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11:47.23ElkanoFritti, and how to set a hidden attribute as in <Button name="QuestLogTitle7" inherits="QuestLogTitleButtonTemplate" id="7" hidden="true" parent="QuestLogFrame_MidTextures">?
11:47.26Mikmait's not a glitch, it's a feature!
11:48.22FrittiElkano: CreateFrame makes hidden frames by default
11:48.30Frittiyou need to :Show() them explicitly
11:48.34Elkanok
11:51.49Elkanook, here comes the testing :)
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12:02.48Tekkuboh fuck me daddy
12:02.52TekkubI like this fridge
12:03.00Tekkubmy Mtn Dew is a slushie *moan*
12:03.29Frittihmm, I got another idea to avoid the taint.... *goes off to try it out*
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12:18.49CIA-1703elkano * r17750 10FramesResized/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
12:18.49CIA-17FramesResized
12:18.49CIA-17- initial import
12:18.49CIA-17- resizes some default UI frames like CraftUI, TradeSkillUI, TrainerUI, QuestLog and LootFrame to show more lines
12:20.24FtH|eagleis jerry here?
12:21.28Frittiright, that did't work either.
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12:22.09CIA-1703elkano * r17751 10FramesResized/libs/:
12:22.09CIA-17FramesResized
12:22.09CIA-17- set externals
12:25.15Elkanoenjoy :)
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12:26.23XLVIIIs there a way to hide the NESW text on Squeenix?
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12:27.19CIA-1703elkano * r17752 10FramesResized/ (. libs/):
12:27.19CIA-17FramesResized
12:27.20CIA-17- updated externals
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12:33.14GngskXLVII, comment out one line
12:33.34Tekkubor look at the fucking options menu
12:33.43Gngsklol
12:33.48Gngskhaven't used it since an option was added
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12:34.29cncfanaticsyo all
12:41.05CIA-1703moonsorrow * r17753 10XRS/XRS_BuffClass.lua:
12:41.05CIA-17XRS:
12:41.05CIA-17- buff names are now trimmed
12:41.47Silviu-Elkano any news on new Ebb with separated buffs/debuffs/weapon buffs ? ;)
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12:51.26odtTekkub: when upgrading squeenix to the latest, i get an onInstanceinit error from ag_UF
12:51.44odtwhat should i do to have the latest squeenix but not upgrade the other crap?
12:52.08odt1.12
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12:58.40sbumhh
12:58.41sbuserver still down - wtf
12:58.48cncfanaticswoohoooo
12:58.55cncfanaticsmanaged to get stanceswitching working in fb2
13:05.07cncfanaticsdoes anyone know if priest shadowform is counted as a stance ?
13:05.23Mikmano
13:05.41Mikmano i don't know and no i don't think it's counted
13:05.41GngskI don't think it was originally, but it might be in 2.0
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13:09.23CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r17754 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (. FuBar_TrainerFu.toc README.txt TrainerFu.lua):
13:09.23CIA-17FuBar_TrainerFu: Initial commit
13:09.23CIA-17- Keep track of skills you can learn from trainers.
13:09.24pb_eeEcncfanatics: maybe you should check this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44757854&sid=1 (second post)
13:11.31CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r17755 10FuBar_TrainerFu/:
13:11.32CIA-17FuBar_TrainerFu:
13:11.32CIA-17- Setup externals
13:12.29cncfanaticsthanks pb_eeE
13:12.52cncfanaticsso shadowform IS a stance
13:13.04pb_eeEit *seems* it becomes a stance in 2.0, but i'm not absolutely sure
13:13.33cncfanaticsi got no priest to test unfortunatly :(
13:14.10pb_eeEI have one actually, maybe i could test a bit of code for you ;)
13:14.16yacoobshadowform is a stance?
13:14.29yacoob...when do we get shadowberserk? 8)
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13:15.37sbuWTF
13:15.40sbuSpellstone and Firestone can be equipped in the Wand slot. <--
13:15.53[Ammo]weird
13:16.57cncfanaticspb_eeE
13:17.06cncfanaticscan u do run this bit of code when in shadowform:
13:17.16cncfanatics/script ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetShapeshiftForm(true));
13:17.27cncfanaticsand tell me what gets added into ur chatbox
13:18.35sbu1
13:18.44sbuand 0 w/o shadowform
13:19.01sbu(PTR)
13:19.16cncfanaticsmeans its a stance on its own :)
13:19.24cncfanaticsanyone got a pala and cld try out with aura's ?
13:19.34cncfanaticsthanks sbu btw :)
13:20.39pb_eeEcncfanatics: actually i'm not at home at the moment, but I can test it when I'll come back to my mummy's house :P
13:20.46sbuewwww and spellstone will no longe be consumed but has some 3min CD
13:20.52Gngskaccording to what I read, auras are no longer consider stances
13:20.58sbuWL go imba :/
13:21.05pb_eeEcncfanatics: aha, sbu did it for you, didn't see ;)
13:21.56cncfanaticsWL go imba ?
13:22.01cncfanaticsWL were imba since their review
13:22.08cncfanaticsthey just get more imba :p
13:22.10sbu:/
13:22.30cncfanaticsand mage gets nerfed -.-
13:22.38cncfanaticsonly class actualy getting worse post TBC lol
13:22.41sbuthat new WL pet is - aww... :o
13:22.47cncfanaticsneh
13:22.51cncfanaticsits, 2shottable
13:22.54cncfanatics2k hp it has lol
13:22.57sbumh
13:23.13andg2k hp is enough for me not to care doing damage to it
13:23.31andgthen I'd rather go for the player
13:23.56sbumhh soullinked.. have fun :o
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13:24.01sbuand then 2k is not that nice :/
13:27.21sbucant believe that my server is the ONLY ONE that is still down
13:27.21MoonWolfgood for you.
13:27.21sbuit is?
13:30.23Tekkubmoon....
13:30.36Tekkubhttp://news.zdnet.com/2100-9596_22-6137629.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=zdnn
13:32.01sbumhh - i dont like that name :p
13:39.25CIA-1703neriak * r17756 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
13:39.25CIA-17Babble-2.2:
13:39.25CIA-17- another german fix
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13:51.52Mikmagege nice link
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13:59.44andgKirkburn, I am not logged in, I am at work
13:59.47andgso I can't respond
14:01.16KirkburnAh okay
14:01.28KirkburnBasically, the steel texture is in the wrong location
14:01.39KirkburnIt should be under Images/Bars, not just Images
14:01.48KirkburnThus why it didn't work last night :)
14:02.12CIA-1703usz * r17757 10PrivateChat/Core.lua:
14:02.12CIA-17PrivateChat
14:02.13CIA-17- Added channel join notices
14:04.33CIA-1703beerke * r17758 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua:
14:04.34CIA-17BigWigs_LoathebTactical :
14:04.34CIA-17- bug spotted and squashed
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14:12.14andgKirkburn, yeah, I missed that
14:12.18cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
14:12.24andgI will fix it
14:12.48CIA-1703cncfanatics * r17759 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2_Controller.lua FlexBar2_View.lua):
14:12.48CIA-17FlexBar2:
14:12.48CIA-17Controller.lua:
14:12.48CIA-17<PROTECTED>
14:13.03Kirkburnandg, cool :)
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14:15.44Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-860-1-titan-panel.html :D
14:15.54Mikmanow that ckknight ain't here i can paste that ;d
14:16.53andgUmmm guys, I have an idea.
14:17.01andgWhat about releasing FuBar
14:17.11andgso we can kill off this turd that is titanbar
14:17.14Mikmathey don't trust releases :P
14:18.35andgof course they do, Ckk released fubar 1.2
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14:18.50andgfubar 2.0 >>>>>>>>>>>> titam
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14:21.49Mikmatitan is bettteeeeeeeeeeer
14:22.10sbumhh
14:22.37andgoh really?
14:22.50sbugiev beta key and i wont tell ckk :/
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14:23.29AmadeoTitan is better? wtf, lol
14:24.22pb_eeEHe's not wrong though, when you have installed TitanBar your game runs faster :p
14:24.46pb_eeEThe main reason is because you don't install anything else cause your memory is already full :D
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14:26.15sbu~whaleambush Mikma
14:26.21purlACTION ambushes Mikma with Giovanni, a whale that's a bit too big to be a dagger
14:28.12pb_eeEhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3886952853801990554&q=tier+5&hl=en
14:28.27pb_eeEDunno if it has been posted already
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14:29.00sbumhhh
14:29.06Amadeodoes it have stats or just the models again?
14:29.32sbuT4 is 'low' dungeon-set 1 (like t0) and T5 is high-lvl raid-instance set?
14:29.39pb_eeEModels only, but this one is quite interesting
14:29.47Y2HHsbu, supposedly t4 is 10 man instances
14:29.53Y2HHbut what do i know :D
14:30.03sbuwell
14:30.21sbuthat T4 set bonus stuff isnt that good
14:30.45Y2HHI was wondering if anyone had any (probably very outdated) information on Kaelton's old Hunter mod called Stalker -- is there an updated version or an alternative I can check out?
14:30.46phyberbecause T4 has sockets, you make up your own bonuses.
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14:31.05AmadeoFrom what I've seen so far
14:31.11odtY2HH: what did it do?
14:31.11Amadeothe stats that come from gems aren't that incredible
14:31.27phyberAmadeo: in certain combinations, they give additional stats.
14:31.28Y2HHodt, minimap ping information for hunters, somewhat like ICU but better
14:31.37Amadeophyber: I see, I hope a lot more stats!
14:31.41phyberlike, red+green+shiny pink might give an additional heal bonus.
14:31.50phyberlike rune words in Diablo 2
14:31.52sbuhttp://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/t4armor/priest/T4HealerSet.JPG <-- if its true - some random items + t3 is better
14:32.04sbuok - there is that socket thing, right
14:32.07phyberbut if you get it wrong, then you just get the normal stats from the thing.
14:32.25sbubut you can remove/replace them
14:33.47Y2HHSo...any Hunters know of an updated ICU or Stalker type minimap pinger I can use?
14:33.47kov`the t4 set is only from 5 or 10 man instances, so comparing it to t3 is sorta pointless :>
14:33.52Y2HHI'm trying to shed the use of ace 1.3
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14:41.11Merysbu: you can overwrite them losing the original gem
14:41.19sbumh yep
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14:48.19haste0hmm, I think something's wrong here
14:48.50haste"Your download speed is 213 kbits/s"
14:49.19Mikmayay!
14:49.28Mikmai have been kicked out from guild :D
14:49.32phyberslooow.  what should it be?
14:49.35Mikmai have been offline for a week or so
14:49.43Mikmamy prepaid ended on 18th ;D
14:50.58haste_and_ my ISP upgraded the line to 6000 kbits/s yesterday
14:54.33hasteoh, now... it's even worse :D
14:59.06hasteY2HH: Turn that off
14:59.29Neeblerirc nazis!
14:59.49Mikma_|"
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15:04.09Y2HHhaste?
15:04.18hasteY2HH: The away script
15:04.23Y2HHoh
15:10.27Mikmahttp://mikma.reaktio.net/lady/lady1.jpg :D
15:10.33Mikmathat's one happy puppy
15:11.12Gngsklooks like it's digesting
15:11.32Mikmapropably
15:12.47Gngskyou know what gmail needs 'Return Selected'
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15:17.58Amadeoyeah
15:17.59AmadeoI'd like that
15:18.22Gngskonly issue is if it's already been returned you can't return it
15:20.09Amadeowhat happens if you buy something off the AH and let it sit in your mailbox too long?
15:20.12Amadeoit just vanishes?
15:20.17Gngskthink so
15:20.33Amadeo:(
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15:27.46CIA-1703rabbit * r17760 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/SEEA-2.0-Events-Only.lua: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: Fix after LoD madness.
15:28.08CIA-1703jncl * r17761 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/EnhancedStackSplit.lua): Skinner: Fix for Tablet errors
15:31.15grollis there a bable lib for tbc?
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15:32.22vhaarrBabble-2.2 works fine.
15:33.03CIA-1703ammo * r17762 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs (Horsemen): mark fix grmbl
15:34.48JoshBorkecan i do this: function myFunc(...) <blah> end;  myFunc(UnitCastingInfo('player'))?
15:36.51grollvhaarr ya noticed after i changed the toc
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15:44.31CIA-1703damjau * r17763 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua:
15:44.31CIA-17sRaidFrames -
15:44.31CIA-17update koKR local
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16:05.06Sarozvhaarr :p
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16:10.26CIA-17BigWigs_LoathebTactical :
16:10.26CIA-17- Dry tested, should be fully working now.
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16:14.45vhaarr^^
16:17.44CIA-1703beerke * r17765 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua:
16:17.44CIA-17BigWigs_LoathebTactical :
16:17.44CIA-17- Forgot to strip debug spam.
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16:28.16CIA-17BigWigs (Horsemen): semi-rewrite of the marked structure. Bumped sync token to HorsemenMark3
16:28.16CIA-17mark number are nolonger broadcasted, just kept local.
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16:31.28SomanioO?
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16:37.01leech2kI haven't done any timer stuff yet. What is the easiest way to determine if two event happend within 5 seconds of each other?
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16:39.56vhaarrleech2k: There's only one way to determine that. Save GetTime() when the first event happens and compare it to GetTime() when the second event occurs.
16:40.11leech2kkk thx
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16:45.50mjc_Iceroth: ping
16:46.04mjc_Iceroth: IceHUD's amazing with the wow 3D renderer turned off. :D
16:48.40mjc_http://325i.org/is2.png :P
16:50.27JoshBorkeis having a unified event handler better than each mod having its own event handler?  if so, why?
16:51.46mjc_unified prevents people from stepping on each other's toes
16:52.00kergothyou'd be reducing function call overhead (one vs many) at the cost of overhead in the logic to determine what to do once its in the handler.  performance wise, there'd be no difference.
16:52.40Elkanobut if you eg look at AceEvent it also allows custom events you can register to
16:53.07hastewhich again can be used by others mods
16:53.10hastegreat for modules!
16:53.55CIA-1703rabbit 07TBC * r17769 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Fix bug when resetting sv database.
16:54.51JoshBorkekergoth: mmk.  so its best use is in something like Ace where it is designed in a OO way and it allows custom events
16:55.55kergothpretty much.  though it can also reduce ram usage via the use of only one frame for the event instead of one for each addon.  course ram usage isnt generally a performance problem, people are just anal about it anyway :)
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16:56.55JoshBorkethat's what i thought, i just wanted to double check i wasn't stupid
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17:10.56CIA-17FruityLoots
17:10.56CIA-17- added Skinner and oSkinfix/support
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17:11.55Melisandrehi
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17:13.46hasteHello
17:13.58Mikmahi 2 u 2 hastey ;)
17:14.11hastes/Hello/Fuck you Mikma :D/
17:14.41Gngsk:o
17:15.02Mikmas/hi 2 u 2 hastey ;)/haste: go diaf you assclown/
17:15.10Melisandre!
17:15.14haste:D
17:15.18Mikmaboo!
17:15.20Mikmaborked.
17:15.24Melisandrei like to see love sprad all over the room
17:15.30Melisandrespread*
17:15.32hasteI'm thinking about writing a small add on to: show a 3D vector cube
17:15.33MikmaMelisandre: stfu and die
17:15.33CIA-1703rabbit * r17772 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Comm: Move BossEngaged throttle registration to Comm.
17:15.37Mikma[Ammo]: hate him asap
17:15.44hasteout of pure boredom, and I need to learn more about vectors
17:15.50CIA-1703rabbit * r17773 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Removed BossEngaged throttle registration, it has been moved to Comm.
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17:16.12Melisandrebye :)
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17:16.23hasteI should add a sinus-scroll and release it as demo!
17:16.55Mikmano
17:17.03Mikmayou should code better addons
17:17.07Mikmalike oSkin
17:18.00kergothyes, people demand unbloated skinning!
17:18.22hastehehe
17:18.26Mikma:D
17:18.32Mikmago kergoth! tell him what to do!
17:19.08Mikmanevcairiel: loloooo
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17:37.54dafirehi all ;)
17:38.01JoshBorkedafire: hola
17:38.44cncfanaticsyo all
17:38.47cncfanatics~seen ckknight
17:39.10purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 23m 48s ago, saying: 'hehe'.
17:39.10cncfanatics~seen Dahn
17:39.16purldahn <n=amurarka@216.104.211.5> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11d 17h 35m 39s ago, saying: 'and updated correctly'.
17:39.28TlalocI found a bug in ag_UF if anyone here is working on that mod
17:39.54haste~seen ag`
17:39.56purlag` <n=ag`@0x503e75de.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 5m 58s ago, saying: 'try steel'.
17:39.56TlalocIf you shapeshift out of bear form as a druid the mana bar doesn't display your mana, it still displays your rage until you do something that uses mana
17:40.07Saroz~seen vhaar
17:40.11purli haven't seen 'vhaar', Saroz
17:40.19Mikma~seen vhaarr
17:40.21purlvhaarr <n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 25s ago, saying: 'leech2k: There's only one way to determine that. Save GetTime() when the first event happens and compare it to GetTime() when the second event occurs.'.
17:40.22hasteTlaloc: poke ag when he comes online
17:40.40Mikma~seen penis
17:40.42purlpenis <fns@80.167.114.198> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 795d 17h 24m 14s ago, saying: '?'.
17:40.45TlalocOk haste, will do
17:40.47Saroz...
17:41.43cncfanaticsoh, btw, i got stances working with fb2 !
17:41.54cncfanaticsin a god damn nice way imo :)
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17:42.54CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17774 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
17:42.55CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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17:43.12JoshBorkecncfanatics: oh yea? how's that?
17:46.10SarozI love how the RDX bossmod bars move
17:46.11Sarozthats hot
17:46.48Nickenyfikenis RDX that thing that cost money?
17:46.56SarozI guess
17:48.41Gngskwhat's the lod.bat files do for bigwigs/ora2?
17:48.44CIA-1703moonsorrow * r17775 10XRS/XRS_BuffClass.lua:
17:48.44CIA-17XRS:
17:48.44CIA-17- fixed bug with trim in last version
17:48.57CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17776 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Options.lua: Bartender3: fixed a typo with right-click selfcasting
17:53.32CIA-1703dafire * r17777 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed german translation for zone "Blade's Edge Mountains"
17:53.40JoshBorkeSaroz: how d o you mean, they move?
17:53.53Sarozthey like..move to the center of the screen
17:53.56Sarozwhen they are about to expire
17:54.02Sarozand flash and stuff
17:54.06dafire(:
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17:55.02Gngskhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7375138317178780307
17:55.07Gngskyou can see them move in that video
17:55.17Gngskwhen impending doom starts ticking
17:55.22dafireit would be cool if it would be possible to have a seperate german translation for 2.0 in babble... they are renaming lots of stuff
17:55.39nevcairielbranch it
17:55.40nevcairiel:)
17:55.48nevcairielor wait some more weeks
17:56.16dafiremaybe next week ;)
17:56.19nevcairielOr, the cleanest way, get rid of that god damn stupid locales.
17:56.27Sarozyea Gngsk,looks nice
17:56.31nevcairielIts a joke what blizzard did to the localized versions
17:56.38nevcairielHello Eisenschmiede and Sturmwind
17:56.50dafire^^
17:56.52nevcairiell2english
17:57.20dafireSchwarzberg -> blackrock :)
17:58.03sbuDonnerfels -> thunder bluff :/
17:58.13JensI dread to think what a danish WoW would be like.
17:58.33ElkanoI hope the beta client can be used for retail BC
17:58.33JensHA HA HA... "Eisenschmiede".
17:59.41JensAre they translating names too?
18:00.09nevcairielsome yea
18:00.14nevcairielits a joke
18:00.25JensIt's like the movie translation syndrome which I also hate very much. Some movie names just make no sense, or sound utterly stupid in danish.
18:00.35Sroshif it's figurative I think they're translating it
18:00.41CIA-1703dafire * r17778 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed german translation for zone "Zangarmarsh"
18:00.51JensSome times they translate an english movie title into another english title for danish release.
18:01.15dafireplaying with cartographer in beta right now ;9
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18:01.53Jens"Die Hard: With a Vengeance"? Nope, not in Denmark. Here it's "Die Harder".
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18:02.16DrL|Gedgoldhello guys, anyone has my same bug with Grid (on beta server)? I can see the debuff icon only on my square and not on the other of my party/raid
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18:03.44haarmJens, die harder is 2, with a vengeance is 3
18:05.16JensOh right.
18:05.28JensAnyways... happens all the time.
18:07.11CIA-1703dafire * r17779 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: fixed german translation for zones "Ghostlands" and "Evergreen Forest"
18:09.35CIA-1703jncl * r17780 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua Localisations.lua Skinner.lua options.lua): Skinner: Added several options to change Gradient settings and Top/Bottom Frame settings
18:09.48Mikmaaka bloated more
18:11.59dafirebtw are there keybindings in bartender3 now for a second bar? ;)
18:13.19nevcairielnot in svn
18:14.28dafirethe only thing I miss :)
18:14.39nevcairielbut you _can_ use the multibar bindings, you just have to figure out which bars is which :)
18:15.14dafirei'll try that ;)
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18:15.39kergothwhy does fraps hate me so
18:15.44kergothi click on the icon on the desktop and nothing happens
18:15.47CIA-1703ammo * r17781 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: BigWigs (Faerlina): frFR update
18:16.10dafireI can  fraps now in 1920x1200 but the files are reeeallly huge ;)
18:16.13kergothyeah thats what i did (re bartender3 bindings)
18:16.24kergothhehe
18:17.07dafireI guell I'll have to make a howto grid&clique movie for our healers ;)
18:17.17dafireguess ;9
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18:18.16Mikmanevcairiel: wtb pagemaster lawl
18:18.22nevcairielwrite it
18:18.39Mikmacan't :(
18:18.42nevcairieli found the bindingclick library from gello yesterday, going to implement it for pagemaster
18:18.44nevcairieleh
18:18.46nevcairielfor bartender3
18:18.47dafireI want the right click makes bars red and hide them ;)
18:18.50nevcairielyou are confusing me
18:18.57Mikmanevcairiel: ass booty ass
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18:21.14ckknighthey all
18:22.07dafirehi ckknight
18:22.22leech2khowdy
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18:25.51dafirewould it be ok to add checks of the lua version to babble to already add the changed translations for the next patch / tbc ?
18:28.57MikmaYAY, can't use minor health potions :D
18:29.03Mikma"Must be in flight form"
18:29.46dafirelol
18:30.14Mikmawtf is the flightform? :)
18:30.51nevcairiela druid lvl 68 spell
18:30.52nevcairiel:)
18:31.46Mikmacool. i need to find more info about it
18:31.57Mikmais it usable only in outlands?
18:32.21Sroshyep
18:32.37yacoobflightform: caster takes upon the form of butterfly. His health changes accordingly.
18:32.46Sroshflightform = flying mount for druids
18:32.54Mikmaright. druids don't need flying mounts :P
18:32.57nevcairielits a stormcrow, like that one quest in zangamarsh
18:32.57yacoobyacoob's *slap* crits Happydruid for 90 damage
18:34.29AntiarcI still don't know if it's possible to polymorph people on flying mounts
18:34.40AmadeoI think so, as long as you're low enough
18:34.50AntiarcI guess a 30-yard fall wouldn't kill you
18:35.20AntiarcI wonder if it's possible to use a gnomish MC cap to make someone dismount
18:35.22Antiarc*MC*
18:35.28Antiarc*fly to 80 yards up*
18:35.29Amadeohah
18:35.29Antiarc*dismount*
18:35.35Amadeothat would be funny
18:35.37AntiarcThat would be the best way to kill someone, ever.
18:35.45leech2kjust use a discombobulator
18:35.47AmadeoI don't know if you have the capability to remove buffs like that from them though
18:35.50CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17782 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
18:35.50CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
18:35.50CIA-17<PROTECTED>
18:35.51AntiarcI don't think you do.
18:35.55Amadeoactually
18:35.59AntiarcI'll have to try a discombobulator, yeah.
18:36.04yacoobAntiarc, similar to people summoning folks into the air? :))
18:36.08AmadeoFlight Form Druids...perhaps
18:36.16Amadeoyou can be high in the air, shift out, discombobulator, shift back
18:36.17AntiarcVery similar :D
18:36.31ckknighthow's everyone doing today?
18:36.38AntiarcAnxious for the week to be over!
18:36.38Amadeonot bad
18:36.41AntiarcThe day, rather.
18:36.41Amadeoyourself?
18:36.47leech2kckknight: Very good and y ?
18:36.50AntiarcBut dreading it, because I have two product roll-outs that have to be done today!
18:36.52leech2ku*
18:36.55ckknightI'm alright.
18:37.35yacoobAntiarc, Murphy will triumph!
18:38.40ckknightI need to rename the AlphaScale module in Cartographer
18:38.45ckknightbut I don't know to what.
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18:40.14axxoSeeThoughShirt
18:40.21JoshBork1o.O
18:41.22ag`Scalfa!
18:45.20ckknighthehe, axxo
18:45.33ckknightbut I don't think so
18:45.37ckknightit doesn't need to be clever.
18:45.39ckknightor original.
18:46.11axxoScales
18:46.24yacoobMurlocScale 8)
18:46.43yacoobShinyScale
18:46.46ckknightthe issue is, it doesn't just deal with Alpha or
18:46.47yacoobsomething along those lines
18:46.48ckknightScale
18:46.53ckknightnow it deals with locking the map as well.
18:47.01ckknightso it has to do more with how the map looks
18:47.25AntiarcMapAlphaAndScaleModifierAndLockerAndStuff
18:47.25ckknightmaybe something like "Makeup"
18:47.38AntiarcMAASMALAS for short.
18:48.12yacoobRouge!
18:48.18AntiarcHeh, nice.
18:48.24ckknightyacoob, I thought of Rouge, but that'd be too confusing.
18:48.26ckknighthonestly.
18:48.30AntiarcIt would be.
18:48.34ckknightMascara
18:48.35AntiarcBut it's clever.
18:48.42yacoobGlamour 8)
18:48.43ag`rogue
18:48.46ckknightI don't need clever
18:48.48AntiarcGlamour isn't bad.
18:48.56axxoMisc
18:49.00AntiarcMakeupKit might work nicely.
18:49.13axxoor just Options
18:49.17AntiarcMyAddon
18:49.35yacoobMyLittlePony^WNo idea then...
18:49.53AntiarcYouSureDoGotAPurtyMap
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18:50.27ag`I want to make a module and call it treasurehunt
18:50.31ag`dunno what it should do yet
18:51.33KarlThePaganis there an ace2'd gatherer replacement?
18:52.06axxopinpoint kinda
18:52.37AntiarcRedStripe
18:52.45AntiarcWhen ugly maps stand next to a RedStripe, they are beautiful!
18:52.51AntiarcYou there, map! Would you say you are ugly?
18:52.54AntiarcI, err...
18:52.57AntiarcYes! You are very ugly!
18:53.00AntiarcHere, hold this addon
18:53.10AntiarcSee? Now you are beautiful! Hooray addons!
18:53.20CIA-1703saroz * r17783 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Put renew on hold
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18:55.15yacoobI don't know what you've been sniffing Antiarc, but I want some of that 8)
18:55.17nevcairielyay
18:55.19nevcairiel./cheer Saroz
18:57.27KarlThePaganyea pinpoint needs some lovins
18:59.44Antiarcyacoob: Not familiar with the Red Stripe beer commercials?
18:59.46cncfanatics~literal cncfanatics
18:59.54purl"cncfanatics" is "<reply> still an asshat"
18:59.54cncfanaticsyo all
19:00.06cncfanaticslol
19:00.19cncfanaticsso that was the ping i saw :o
19:00.25yacoobAntiarc, very much not familiar.
19:00.33KarlThePagani am familliar
19:00.47AntiarcI know 'em through the radio :)
19:01.03Antiarchttp://youtube.com/watch?v=BfGkhhm4vXw
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19:02.04Sarozlol nevcairiel :p
19:02.21CIA-1703ckknight * r17784 10Cartographer/Modules/ (AlphaScale.lua ZoneInfo.lua): Cartographer-AlphaScale - added in a locked option.
19:02.35ckknightplztest
19:02.36ckknightkthx
19:02.54ckknightone thing is that it doesn't lock POIs
19:03.01ckknightnot sure if I should keep that or not.
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19:05.34nevcairielthat clickbinder plugin is a great invention, only that it sucks if you really need lots of bindings x.x
19:06.23CIA-1703ckknight * r17785 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer-AlphaScale - magnifying glass now gets locked
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19:10.14Funkeh`hey all
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19:10.39Grinehmmz
19:10.42Grinehey peeps
19:16.35nevcairielwoot it works
19:16.57Grineweeee
19:16.59Grinewhat nevcairiel?
19:17.07nevcairielgive CIA-17 a second
19:17.20GrineI can't wait!!!
19:17.20CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17786 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (5 files):
19:17.20CIA-17Bartender3:
19:17.20CIA-17- Now using Gello's ClickBinder to setup keybindings to the Bars.
19:17.20CIA-17- You can access one Binding menu per bar, using /bt3 <bar> keybindings
19:17.59Grineand I don't even use Bartender ;)
19:18.22nevcairielyou should
19:18.54yacoobevery time you use other bar mod, god kills a gnome
19:19.06Mikmalawl
19:19.18ckknightgnomes suck ass.
19:19.19Mikmaeverytime you use other bar mod, a virgin dies
19:19.29ckknightwell, at least they're not taking our sluts!
19:19.35MikmaHAHA
19:19.38leech2kI <3 bartender.
19:20.07leech2kPrefect balance of simplicity and configuration options. imo
19:20.07kergothnevcairiel, nice
19:20.46leech2kis redrange and cooldown count ever going to be built in?
19:21.00Mikmacooldowncount is in
19:21.05leech2ksweet
19:21.13Mikmastill needs pagemaster and redrange to be the most amazing barmod ever
19:21.23Mikmaand, has rows-support for menubar and bagbar!Q
19:21.30KarlThePaganand 10 bars ,3
19:21.32KarlThePagan<3
19:21.32kergothif every time i use another bar mod, god kills a gnome, i should stop using bartender right away
19:21.33Mikmathat was a surprise :D
19:21.37kergothkilling gnomes ftw
19:21.49Mikmastop being mean to gnomes :(
19:21.50yacoobMikma, can bars be of arbitrary length?
19:22.00kergothhehe, i liked that gnomehaterwhispercast someone posted
19:22.03kergothdoesnt buff gnomes
19:22.18yacoobstomp to gnomes? OK!
19:22.21Mikmayacoob: i dunno what that means
19:22.58yacoobMikma, can I have bar1 consisting of 10 buttons, bar2 - 10 buttons, bar3 - 6 buttons, bar4 - 4 buttons?
19:24.13kergothdoubt it, thats one thing thats nice about trinitybuttons, though its a beast
19:24.42Mikmayacoob: not yet but nevcairiel is planning on it
19:24.44CIA-1703leech * r17787 10dgks/ (6 files in 2 dirs): dgks: Added multikill support
19:25.03yacoobMikma, I'll wait some more time then :>
19:25.21leech2kI use to use flexbar but I would spend like 3 hours setting it up :-)
19:25.38yacoob<tiny> Bongos works </> :)
19:26.14Grineso why does bartender pwn bongos?
19:26.42Tullerbecause 90% of the time, someone asks me to add dreamlayout :P
19:27.05leech2kbartender has a better name?
19:27.21Mikmahaa-haa
19:27.24Mikmablame maia :D
19:27.33Mikmahe made me code it in the first place
19:27.36Grinewhat makes it worth redoing all my bars is the big question XD
19:27.42KarlThePaganif flexbar2 doesn't suck down cpu I might consider it
19:27.47KarlThePaganbartender does it for me until then
19:28.31leech2kflexbar is awesome, you can do pretty much anything a person could think of but the config time and its slow
19:29.09leech2kflexbar reminds me of emacs :-)
19:30.09nevcairielMikma: it has redrange
19:30.17Mikmanevcairiel: ok. ass
19:30.47yacoobGrine, dunno either :)
19:31.26leech2klol my wife is all stoked cause she is about to get an epic tiger mount on her gnome
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19:35.28ckknightcool stuff, leech2k
19:36.23TainYour wife is an epic mounter?
19:36.37yacoobuh...
19:36.55yacoobthat's interesting, my soon to be wife, playing dwarf, is also going to have a tiger...
19:37.02yacoobI see a common idea there.
19:37.54TainYour wife is short and gives birth to zoo animals?
19:37.58Temag`, poke
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19:38.14yacoobTain, I believe you get the idea wrong 8)
19:39.02TainOr maybe it's very right.
19:39.47yacooblast time I checked - your explanation wasn't true :)
19:40.10TainIs it?  Or are you just afraid to admit that you have a problem?
19:40.18leech2kshe is already starting to grind frostsaber rep lol good luck with that
19:40.25leech2kshe seems to enjoy grinding
19:41.04TainSometimes the headlines just write themselvse.
19:41.39leech2kso is AceGUI stable enough to use?
19:41.46leech2kfor 2.x
19:41.49ckknightno
19:41.52ckknightjust use CreateFrame.
19:41.56leech2kkk
19:42.10leech2knever done wow gui stuff yet time for do some research :-)
19:42.37ckknighthonestly, dealing with CreateFrame is fine
19:42.40TainIn hindsight I really should have had lunch today.
19:43.00leech2klunch is overrated just get another cup of coffee
19:43.05TainAceGUI was more important before CreatFrame.  Not that it can't have added value now, but the impact isn't the same.
19:43.16ckknightTain's right.
19:43.48leech2kwowwiki down?
19:44.09CIA-1703ckknight * r17788 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer-AlphaScale - no longer uses escape to close the map, but now you can have other things open while it's open as well.
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19:45.06Temag`, poke poke poke poke
19:45.15Mikmapoker
19:45.54TainPoker?  I don't even know her.
19:45.58Mikmanevcairiel: hehehee http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3110.msg61142#msg61142
19:48.31nevcairielso?
19:48.45nevcairielit never worked for me on BT2, so i guess it wont on BT3 .. but i can implement it ^^
19:48.55Mikmanevcairiel: it's bugged i think
19:49.03Mikmalet's ask cladhaire
19:49.43Mikmanevcairiel: well aleast according to the "BT2 BC" author the stickyframes is bugged
19:50.36Mikmastupid BC :P always the new terrains down
19:51.29CIA-1703ckknight * r17789 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua:
19:51.29CIA-17Cartographer-AlphaScale - made sure lock only does something when active.
19:51.29CIA-17Also note: frame strata is now MEDIUM instead of DIALOG
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19:56.51kergothsigh
19:56.56kergothevery time i logout, my wow crashes
19:57.03FtH|eaglesame for me ;)
19:58.11kergothits 89 degrees out here
19:58.14kergoththe day before thanksgiving
19:58.16kergothcrazy.
19:58.58kergoth(fahrenheit that is)
19:59.08kergothhmm, i should try o/c'd my processor
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20:04.32TainThat used to happen to me, kergoth.  But it doesn't any more and I don't know why.
20:05.41kergothhmm
20:06.22nevcairielit happens to me as well
20:06.44ag`Tem: yeh?
20:06.54Temone sec
20:10.19sbuag`: uhmm
20:10.34sbuduell button in aguf isnt working yet, right?
20:11.02Icerothmjc, huh?
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20:14.57cncfanaticsanybody can tell me what i shld code next in fb2 ?
20:15.00cncfanaticsran out of ideas :p
20:15.28Temok, sorry ag`
20:15.40Temdon't securehook the header functions
20:15.50JoshBork1cncfanatics: sorry if i missed it before, but how'd you do the stance stuff?
20:15.50Temuse OnAttributeChanged on your UnitButtons
20:18.16Temag`, you still here?
20:18.26Funkeh`is there a list page that explains things like (.*) %s etc ?
20:18.47Elkanolua manual ;)
20:18.58leech2ktbc mods work fine in ptr correct?
20:19.52Elkanomost of them should but maybe there's a bit of API missmatch between PTR and TBC
20:20.01leech2ko lame
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20:20.19AmadeoI swear I want to know why people email me thinking I'm someone else
20:20.35Nickenyfikenmods with tablet doesnt work without a small modification in tablet
20:20.37AmadeoI just got an email from my "wife", apparently
20:20.53Nickenyfikenlol
20:21.08TainDon't tell your girlfriend.
20:21.14Amadeohaha
20:21.18Amadeoit says..
20:21.44Amadeo"Hi Hon, Happy Day before Thanksgiving. Can't wait till we go riding!!!"
20:21.51Amadeo"Love, Wife"
20:22.08Amadeothat's from her work email
20:22.19Funkeh`Elkano: a link would be nice
20:22.22Amadeothen I have another email from her yahoo account asking if I "stil need this?"
20:22.31Amadeoand it's a bunch of concrete tile pictures
20:23.06AmadeoShould I email these people back and ask them wtf they keep sending me mail for, or should I ignore it and let it come in?
20:23.09TainYou should reply back to the first one. "I can't wait until we go riding either, I can't wait to use this new crop on you."
20:23.24Amadeohahaha
20:24.11AmadeoIs it possible for email to get mixed up somehow?
20:24.17Amadeoor are these people just that stupid?
20:24.37Elkano-> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1
20:24.37ag`Tem: yes
20:24.46Temdid you see what I said?
20:25.01Temdon't hook the header functions
20:25.11Temuse OnAttributeChanged on your UnitButton
20:25.22TainJust respond with random things.  "Can you pick up milk on the way home?"
20:28.54AmadeoTain: Imagine that
20:29.00Amadeoshe brings milk home and asks her husband why
20:29.05Amadeohe's like, I didn't tell you that
20:29.06Amadeohahaha
20:32.47Funkeh`Elkano: thanks <3
20:32.56TainYeah it's the little things that will drag it out for more amusement. :)
20:39.23ag`Tem: why shouldn't I?
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20:39.40Tem#1: because hooking is generally bad
20:39.52Tem#2: because this version is cleaner
20:40.03Tem#3: because hooksecurefunc is not cheap
20:40.18AmadeoYou can be arrested for hooking
20:40.30JoshBork1yea, don't play hooky
20:40.31nevcairieldoes anyone know if i can force Dewdrop to show the menu directly on my cursor rather then on the frame i attached it to?
20:40.53Tem#4: because I said so?
20:41.00ag`Tem: I need to do it to hide the header of a group if all of the units in it is hidden
20:41.10ag`that's why I hook it
20:41.11nymbianevcairiel: i just make dewdrop's parent a dummy frame that i can move wherever
20:41.51Temag`, oh, I didn't look close enough.  I thought you were using that to determine when the header moved units around
20:42.07Temag`, but I guarantee you there is a better way to do this
20:42.15ag`How?
20:42.48ag`I need to call UpdateTitle once on Secure*Header_Update
20:43.10TemI dunno yet
20:44.04ag`where can I see the blizz xml on the net?
20:44.11ag`I don't have the data extracted on my laptop
20:44.19nymbiawdn.wowinterface.com
20:44.20nevcairielnymbia: how do you setpoint it directly onto the cursor?
20:44.38Temnevcairiel, use GetCursorPosition
20:44.44nevcairielah
20:44.48Temdon't forget to handle scale!
20:45.05nymbiayup that ;)
20:45.25nevcairielwill try
20:46.00ag`Tem: If you have a suggestion how to do it in a better way I will change it asap
20:46.34Temyeah, I'm not sure yet
20:46.54Temyou could use OnHide of it's children
20:47.21ag`but then it would get called a lot
20:48.08Temdoes the header hide itself when it has no children?
20:48.15ag`no
20:48.20ag`the headers anchor
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20:53.02mjcIceroth: see screenshot.
20:53.30ag`Tem: I don't think there's a better way to do this
20:53.52TemYou might be right
20:54.05Tembut I'm not giving up
20:54.35Temalso, I think you should use something other than the header for the dragging
20:54.43ag`I use the anchor
20:55.05Temif you set an offset, the offset is applied between the anchor and the first object
20:55.49ckknighthey all
20:55.53Icerothlike.. ok? what's there to see?
20:55.53ag`not sure waht you mean
20:55.56ag`hi ckk
20:55.57Temthat's the header's fault, but you can work around it by placing the dragable portion just above/below/ect
20:56.05ckknightclass was canceled
20:56.36CIA-1703mpstark * r17790 10PetExtend/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
20:56.36CIA-17PetExtend:
20:56.36CIA-17--PetExtend.Pet is now a module
20:56.36CIA-17--StatusFrame will go away when pet is dead
20:56.36CIA-17--Introduced pet call (sorta like fuzzylogic)
20:56.37CIA-17--Internal changes that will lead to true per pet DBs
20:56.42ag`Tem: I am pretty sure everything works as it is supposed to the way I did it atm
20:56.57Temit's not a flaw exactly
20:57.04Temit's just a minor annoyance
20:57.15ag`what's the problem again?
20:57.26Temset an offset and you'll see
20:57.45ag`an offset through my settings you mean?
20:57.50Tem*nod*
20:58.28ag`hm, I don't have a group
20:58.46Temoh, the reminds me of a feature request
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20:58.51Tems/the/that/
20:59.10Teman option to show frames even when you don't have people in the group
20:59.18Temsame for buff/debuffs
20:59.20ag`Mmm
20:59.23CIA-1703mpstark * r17791 10PetExtend/Pet.lua: PetExtend: Readded Pet.lua, didn't commit for some reason!
20:59.29TemI dunno how I'd do it though
20:59.31ag`I can't force the headers to produce groups
20:59.32ag`so
20:59.33Temconsidering the header
20:59.38Temright
21:00.14ckknighthow's everyone doing?
21:00.22ag`I can make an option so you can always see the anchor
21:00.41ag`about the offset Tem, I don't have a group now
21:00.50ag`so can you say what exactly is wrong with it?
21:01.03ag`when I did the feature it seemed fine to me
21:01.12Temit's not *wrong*
21:01.21ag`sets the distance between anchor and first unit
21:01.26Temright
21:01.54Temseems like the first unit shouldn't be offset from the anchor to me
21:02.05ag`it's not
21:02.09Temit is
21:02.13ag`it's from the header
21:02.25Temwhat's the difference?
21:02.36ag`the header is the secure thingy
21:02.40vhaarrckknight: evening, want me to add docs now?
21:02.45Temyou're not using the same frame for both?
21:02.49vhaarrugt, I guess
21:03.03ag`no
21:03.05ckknightvhaarr, *shrug*
21:03.23vhaarrWhat's that supposed to mean?
21:03.32vhaarrEither you want the patch or you don't.
21:03.36vhaarrNow tell me, should I add docs?
21:03.40ag`Tem: if I did I wouldn't be able to hide it but still show children
21:03.42ckknightsure, add docs
21:03.56Temyes you can :)
21:04.12ag`if I do header:Hide() it stops doing everything
21:04.34ag`I could do SetAlpha(0) but I'd rather not
21:04.39Temmm
21:04.42Temgood point
21:04.43nevcairielckknight is there a good way to get a dewdrop menu always appear directly on my cursor or do i have to create some dummy frame ?
21:06.18vhaarrnevcairiel: Both agUF and Tinytip do that.
21:06.18Temanyway, I think the (visible) anchor frame should be flush with the first unit
21:06.18nevcairieli couldnt find it in agUF :D /me looks at tinytip
21:06.18ag`be flush?
21:06.18Tem~dict flush
21:06.18ag`nevcairiel: two secs
21:06.19ckknightnevcairiel, dummy frame with cursorX and cursorY set to true.
21:06.19ag`nevcairiel: self.dewdrop:Open(UIParent, 'children', function() self.dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable(self.mainMenu) end,'cursorX', true, 'cursorY', true)
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21:06.41JensWhere's the dragon spawn point in ashenvale? I see some paved hill here, with Dreamstalker on it.
21:06.50ckknightag`, *shrug*
21:06.50Tembah
21:06.55ag`ckknight: :S
21:07.42ag`Tem: delete? abort? :P
21:07.55Temag`, So as to be even, in one plane, or aligned with a margin.
21:08.11Temthat's the definition I was going for...
21:08.50ag`you mean you don't want the anchor to be above the first unit
21:08.55ag`but next to it?
21:08.59Temno
21:09.03Temgah this is hard to explain
21:09.33Temso that there is no gap between the (visible) anchor and the first unit regardless of 'growth distance'
21:09.58Elkanockknight, how bad is doing self:Hook(func, myfunc, true) ?
21:10.10ckknightElkano, not bad.
21:10.18ag`Tem: that's just a question of setting the offset
21:10.24ag`if you set it to -5 or something
21:10.35Temabuuh?
21:10.50Elkanoso when can I go with this and when do I need secure hooks?
21:11.01ag`you meant you didn't want a gap between anchor and first unit right?
21:11.05Temright
21:11.13ag`then adjust the offset
21:11.18Temwhat offset?
21:11.21ag`you can do it with the slider
21:11.32Temno but I want a gap between units
21:11.36ag`yes
21:11.38CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17792 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:11.38CIA-17Bartender3:
21:11.38CIA-17- Added bar config menu which opens on right-click on the bars when they are unlocked.
21:11.40ag`you can do that
21:11.41ag`oh
21:11.51ag`now did I add an option for this to the menu
21:11.54ag`I can't remember
21:11.56CIA-1703elkano * r17793 10FramesResized/FramesResized.lua:
21:11.56CIA-17FramesResized
21:11.56CIA-17- should now also work with PTR/TBC
21:11.59ag`but I made the code for it
21:12.04kergothwhats framesresized?
21:12.04nevcairielElkano whats it do?
21:12.10nevcairielheh
21:12.32TemElkano, what are you hooking?
21:13.09Elkanosame as it did before ;) it's only an Ace2 recode
21:13.30nevcairielmhm
21:13.35Elkanoit adds some additional lines to TradeSkillUI, CraftUI, TrainerUI, QuestLog or LootFrame
21:13.44nevcairielits hooks lots of stuff, try opening the questlog in combat :o
21:14.07ag`Tem: I understand what you meant now, and it's real easy to make
21:14.25Temawesome
21:14.25Elkano@tem: LootFrame_OnShow, QuestLog_OnShow, ClassTrainer_SetToTradeSkillTrainer and ClassTrainer_SetToClassTrainer
21:14.46nevcairielElkano: change it to SecureHook, that way you wont taint it but still get your function called .. since you always call the orig..
21:14.54TemADFLAKFJASLDF
21:14.57TemI HATE YOU PEOPLE
21:15.11kergothi'm sure its mutual
21:15.26TemHere, instead of actually checking to see if I need to securehook, lemme just use it blindly
21:15.27Elkanonevcairiel, for the first two, I call orig AFTER my code and for the 2nd two I don't call it at all
21:15.31Tembecause it's `better`
21:15.47TemBAD nevcairiel BAD
21:15.54nevcairielits definately better then tainting the OnShow
21:16.08kergothhow exactly do you check if you need to?  how do you know if secure code might call it somewhere?  i must be missing something fundamental
21:16.15TemONLY USE SECUREHOOK IF IT MATTERS
21:16.28Tem**check the blizzard code to see what it does**
21:16.52kergothright, since thats clearly going to keep working in the future
21:17.00kergothblizzard wouldnt change anything, no, not them
21:17.11JoshBork1why hook something in a secure way when you don't need to?
21:17.24vhaarrckknight: Docs updated, patch still at http://ace.pastey.net/2631
21:17.34JoshBork1is it really going to be that difficult later on if they decide to make it do something secure to change your hook call?
21:17.45Temkergoth, future breakage is *always* possible
21:18.03FwipIf I have a string with the name of a function ( everything but the final () ), how do I call that function?
21:18.17kergothpersonally, i code in a way that avoids maintainance problems if at all possible.  i'm happy that you enjoy asking for more, have fun with that
21:18.46ag`Tem: you EU or US?
21:18.47vhaarrFwip: objectThatHoldsFunction[name]()
21:18.52Temag`, US
21:19.00ag`:(
21:19.27nevcairielanyway, if you hook QuestLog_OnShow the old way, it gets tainted, and it calls a bunch of secure functions. Or am i wrong now somewhere?
21:19.29Fwipthanks vhaarr
21:19.45Temnevcairiel, QuestLog_OnShow appears to be fine to hook
21:19.50Elkanofor LootFrame_OnShow it seems to be fine
21:20.10TemI don't see anything after scanning it that says you shouldn't hook it
21:20.38Temmmmmm
21:20.41Temmaybe not
21:20.53nevcairiellet me get this right then, if i hook somethign, and call the original, the original it self will still be secure ?
21:20.58Temno
21:21.05Elkanowell, what about the :Show(), :Hide() calls to the subbuttons?
21:21.15Temhmm?
21:21.19Tembut not everything needs to be secure
21:21.28nevcairieland in the chain of events, QuestLog_OnShow ends up on UIParent_ManageFramePositions
21:21.33Temonly things that need to perform secure actions need to care about being secure
21:21.47Temthat's correct
21:21.58ElkanoI'll simply go test it in combat ^^
21:21.59Temthe quest log is shown by that stuff
21:22.25Temhrm
21:22.28nevcairielI would love a bigger quest log
21:22.36nevcairiel:)
21:23.01Temit depends on what order the uiparent stuff does it
21:23.01Tembut assuming the bad way, you need to securehook that one
21:23.01Elkanowell, it goes from 6 to 14 lines of quest names
21:23.20Temoh wait, no
21:23.42Temnevcairiel, just because the stack traceback says it's part of the same thread doesn't mean you tainted the other bit
21:24.04nevcairielthis is confusing.
21:24.13Temframe:Show() on a frame with a tainted OnShow shouldn't taint you
21:24.35kergothShow wouldnt be tainted, the event handler code would be, no?
21:24.40kergothi dunno how taint flows with events
21:24.58Temright
21:25.01nevcairielok lets ignore that then. but QuestLog_OnShow calls QuestLog_Update which actually tries to call Show and Hide
21:25.06Elkanoquestlog works in combat
21:25.06ag`anyone on EU BC?
21:25.13Temshow wouldn't be tainted, but OnShow event handler would be
21:25.38ag`nevcairiel
21:25.39TemElkano, of course it works in combat
21:25.42ag`you're on EU right
21:25.45TemElkano, it's not a protected frame
21:25.46ag`Elkano: you too?
21:25.47ag`ok
21:25.48nevcairielag` yea
21:25.57TemElkano, you need to try to open the spellbook
21:26.08Temand see if the UI can show/hide/move it
21:26.15Temreally the moving it is the test
21:27.18Temkergoth, all events start secure until they encounter tainted code
21:27.24Temwell, mostly
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21:27.53ElkanoTem, seems to work too
21:27.58Temkay then
21:28.19Temhooking QuestLog_OnShow isn't a problem
21:28.40ag`Tem: there you go
21:28.50Temhmm?
21:28.58CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17794 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
21:28.58CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
21:28.58CIA-17<PROTECTED>
21:29.06Temyay
21:29.34ag`Something I'd like to add is something like profiles
21:29.42ag`where you can attach the subgroups to profiles
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21:29.51ag`so you can change which "mode" you're in
21:29.59Temthat'd be neat
21:30.00ag`ie. which groups should be shown
21:30.02ag`yeah
21:30.12ag`because currently you just have those groups
21:30.52ag`It's not *that* important right away
21:30.55ag`but it could be cool
21:31.12TemError:  attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'AnchorOffset' (a nil value)
21:31.27CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r17795 10Ace2/Ace2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Ace2 - added events Ace2_AddonEnabled, Ace2_AddonInitialized, Ace2_AddonDisabled, Ace2_ModuleCreated.
21:32.28ag`hrm
21:32.39ag`aha
21:33.16Temgroupclass.lua line 138 btw
21:33.21ag`yes
21:33.22ag`I know
21:34.32ag`try agian
21:34.33CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17796 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua:
21:34.33CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
21:34.33CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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21:35.39ag`works now Tem?
21:35.46Temyeah
21:35.48Temthanks
21:35.52ag`np
21:37.48Temit would be nice to create groups of frames that aren't groups (as far as the raid/party header is concerned)
21:38.31Temso that you can group any set of frames
21:38.39ckknightman, I really want WoW 2.0 to come out.
21:38.49JoshBork1lol
21:38.57CIA-1703ckknight * r17797 10Ace2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Ace2 - added events Ace2_AddonEnabled, Ace2_AddonInitialized, Ace2_AddonDisabled, Ace2_ModuleCreated.
21:39.04`-FISKER_Q\Has anyone elses Fizzle begun spamming "Repaircost: cost" each time you equip an item
21:39.07`-FISKER_Q\and usually twice?
21:39.29Azurewraththey already distribute parts of the 2.0.1 Patch.. so it can't be that long anymore
21:39.44nevcairieli guess 2-3 weeks
21:40.12kergoth[05:09] Here Lies Link: I'm in the middle of making an all Tauren Shaman twink guild called <Natural Male Enhancement>
21:40.12kergoth[05:09] Here Lies Link: We have Vyagra, Cialis, Enzyte, Smilingbob, and Themissus so far.  xD
21:41.02ag`Tem: I have some problems with some strings overflowing to two lines
21:41.12ckknightkergoth, lol.
21:41.15ag`what attribute can I set to prevent them from that
21:41.21Temag`, I'm having that issue as well
21:41.28Temwhat you need to do is set the string's hight
21:41.30ag`Is there a flag or something
21:41.45ag`so I really need to set the height to 1?
21:41.58ag`meh
21:42.05ag`blizzard should add a flag or something
21:42.13ag`number of lines
21:42.19ag`or no wrap
21:42.39phyber`-FISKER_Q\: yes, read the changelog.  there is an option to disable it.
21:42.44nevcairielElkano: i found a bug in framesresized, in questlog, the actual quest text is locked on its old position and when i move the frame it stays there as well, looks weird.
21:42.50phyber`-FISKER_Q\: infact, I should fix it so it doesn't say it each time the events fire.
21:43.50Elkanoworks fine for me :/
21:44.03nevcairielweird
21:44.20phyber`-FISKER_Q\: also, that's only temporary until i put it in a nice tablet or something.
21:44.57vhaarrckknight: If I relog mid-flight in TBC, AceEvent_FullyInitialized does not trigger until I land.
21:45.07ckknightvhaarr, hrm...
21:45.27vhaarrActually, I don't think it joins any channels until you land either.
21:45.28CIA-1703phyber * r17798 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
21:45.28CIA-17Fizzle:
21:45.28CIA-17- Fix repair cost showing every time the various events we're registered with fire.
21:45.41phyber`-FISKER_Q\: try that.
21:45.42ckknightvhaarr, well, that's a Blizzard thing for channel joining.
21:45.59vhaarrI'm inclined to agree, would it be possible to work around it?
21:46.54ckknightI'll put in a failsafe 10-second one.
21:46.59ckknightthat seems workable.
21:47.55vhaarrindeed, unless people count on channels and stuff being available at AceEvent_FullyInitialized.
21:48.07grollwould this be the correct way to write this macro? spellnames might be a bit wrong though.. for the new changes comming...
21:48.08vhaarrnot sure if you've made any promises API-wise or not
21:48.11groll./cast [help, combat] lesser healingwave;[help, nocombat] greater healingwave; [help,dead] ancestral Healing
21:48.15ckknightit's meant to fire after channels have been joined
21:48.24ckknightbut since you're in the air, that wouldn't happen anyway
21:48.36CIA-1703dahn * r17799 10Bidder/ (16 files in 4 dirs): Bidder: DKP AddOn initial import
21:48.38CIA-1703phyber * r17800 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
21:48.38CIA-17Fizzle:
21:48.38CIA-17- Fix typo.
21:48.39ckknightso... whatever, I'm gonna put in the 10-second failsafe.
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21:48.45Mikmanevcairiel: hiding bars when unlocked with right-key will completely hide the bars (does not change it to red)
21:48.49vhaarrit does happen, just not before you land
21:50.14JoshBork1groll: that looks to be right
21:50.21grollok great thanks :)
21:50.22CIA-1703phyber * r17801 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
21:50.22CIA-17Fizzle:
21:50.22CIA-17- Move repairCost into self.
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21:51.40CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r17802 10Ace2/Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - added in 10-second failsafe to AceEvent_FullyInitialized
21:52.34CIA-1703ckknight * r17803 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - added in 10-second failsafe to AceEvent_FullyInitialized
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21:55.43hasteI don't think DuraTek works as intended
21:55.59hastesince I went from 18% with 14g repairs, to 8% with 12g repairs
21:56.05hastethen it went to 9% with 16g
21:57.59nevcairielmaybe its averaging your dur
21:58.10JoshBork1or maybe it's fubar?
22:01.04nevcairielit shows some items as 75% on me right now, but the total 83%
22:01.08nevcairieldefinately average
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22:02.58hastenevcairiel: it changed tho', while running
22:03.09hastefrom 8% to 9%, and the cost went up by 4g :p
22:03.29nevcairiellol
22:03.33JoshBork1lol
22:03.36CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r17805 10FuBar_TrackerFu/ (4 files):
22:03.36CIA-17FuBar_TrackerFu:
22:03.36CIA-17- Added AceLocale2.2 to externals
22:03.36CIA-17- Fixed localization error
22:03.40ckknightfor Bindings.xml, is there some way to provide a default binding? e.g. ALT-M
22:04.15hasteI'm going to bed now, gn :)
22:04.20ckknightcya
22:04.24leech2knight
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22:05.28Mikmanevcairiel: whops, wrong channel but oh well
22:05.32Mikmayou'll get the point
22:06.18JoshBork1you should request the scrollbox
22:07.15Tlalocseen ag?
22:07.34Tlalocseen ag` ?
22:08.00leech2kanyone know where I can find some decent docs on CreateFrame() or a mod that uses it?
22:08.05JoshBork1~seen ag`
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22:08.32leech2kwowwiki is lacking
22:08.32kergothcreateframe is a simple function with a few arguments
22:08.34kergothwhat more does it need?
22:08.37Tlalocag`: Did you see my bug report about ag_UnitFrames not updating the mana bar for the player frame when said player switching from bearform back to normal?  The mana bar show rage until you use mana.
22:08.42leech2khmm
22:08.44kergothperhaps your question is about methods on the frame, which is quite seperate
22:08.53JoshBork1there was a question?
22:08.56leech2kyep the methods
22:09.04kergoththen read the docs on the widget, Frame
22:09.07kergothon wowwiki
22:09.11kergothrather than the section on CreateFrame
22:09.12leech2kkk thx
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22:10.13CIA-1703ckknight * r17806 10Cartographer/ (Bindings.xml Cartographer.lua): Cartographer - ALT-M will now open the map and switch between the Default and Alternate profiles.
22:11.15leech2kkergoth: thx that was exactly what I was looking for
22:11.21kergothcan the user create arbitary profiles, or are they stuck with one alternate?
22:11.22kergothnp
22:11.34ckknightkergoth, you can make whatever profiles you want normally.
22:11.43ckknightalt-m is just for lazy people
22:12.46CIA-1703ckknight * r17807 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - make sure not to overwrite the key binding if already exists.
22:12.58kergothis this something cartographer provides, or is acedb now providing a create profile function in the aceoptions?
22:13.20ckknightkergoth, AceDB has always provided that.
22:13.59ckknightProfile->Other->type in what you want.
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22:14.09kergothahh
22:14.11kergothdidnt realize
22:14.12kergothcool
22:20.31kergothlets see, need to do a version of pinpoint thats a cart module, that shouldnt take long, then am gonna rewrite specialtalent, since its code is a mess
22:22.00Nickenyfikenkergoth: good! looking forward to a PinPoint version for Carto
22:22.41Elkanokergoth, you do the collecting and Carto does the showing stuff ^^
22:23.51CIA-1703nickenyfiken * r17808 10FuBar_AspectFu/ (. AspectFu.lua AspectFuLocale-enUS.lua FuBar_AspectFu.toc):
22:23.51CIA-17FuBar_AspectFu:
22:23.51CIA-17- Added AceLocale2.2 to externals
22:23.51CIA-17- Toc is now loading AceLocale2.2
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22:24.57Nickenyfikenshowing notes on the minimap would be nice
22:25.42XLVIIif you have a minimalistic ui, please send me a link to the screenshot -- i need inspiration.
22:26.31Nickenyfikendefine minimalistic :-)
22:26.47JoshBork1i just play with Alt+Z
22:26.57CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r17809 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - populate the choose profile list better by looking at both the current profile and namespaces' profiles.
22:27.34XLVIInickenyfiken, hardly anything on it ;P
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22:28.05Nickenyfikendefault ui?
22:28.12XLVIIno, that's ugly..
22:28.52Nickenyfikenwell what i do sometimes is to remove all addons and start from scratch and add old or new mods when i feel "omg i can't play without this"
22:29.13Nickenyfikentry something like Skinner that changes the look of most things
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22:29.37Nickenyfikenget bartender2 as barmod and ag_uf or somthing as UF
22:31.18ckknightbut what do you have as your map addon?
22:31.20ckknight;-)
22:31.35TainI use Mappy McMapperton
22:31.54CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17810 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
22:31.54CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
22:31.54CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:32.02KirkburnI use my slaves
22:32.34TainSlave!  What direction am I facing!  North, sir!
22:33.06KirkburnNow carry me south!
22:33.13XLVIII'm using Squeenix
22:33.20ckknightthat's a minimap addon
22:33.24ckknightmap addons ~= minimap addons
22:33.40ckknightI was just promoting Cartographer, is all :-P
22:33.54XLVIIeh?
22:33.58XLVIIWhat's Cartographer?
22:34.18KirkburnYou're a subtle as a thundering elephant in your lounge
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22:34.45kergothcartographer is like alphamap/metamap/atlas (minus loot tables), only not bloated
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22:35.10KirkburnNone of those have loot tables by default afaik
22:35.35TainI looted a table from a yard sale.
22:35.37ag`have any of the chat addons been updated for 2.0?
22:35.42ag`like Prat or something
22:35.54KirkburnWould that it were
22:36.05KirkburnThe dev seems to be holding off release the update :(
22:36.06TainPrat never worked for me before 2.0.  But evidently it's just me.
22:36.21ckknightXLVII, what kergoth said.
22:36.30KirkburnI need my Prat fix!
22:36.53kergothKirkburn, metamap includes a boss loot table addon, the data just isnt imported by default.
22:37.02ag`I just need something to kill the damn scroll buttons
22:37.17KirkburnAh okay, the others don't though =)
22:37.22kergoth:)
22:37.49TainYeah actually I just need a chat addon that gets rid of the arrow buttons and enables mouse scrolling and that's it.
22:38.05TainLike.. ChatScroll! But the old Ace one.
22:38.07KirkburnGlad to see I'm not alone
22:38.21ElkanoKirkburn, could you have a look at my post here? http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Patch_mirrors (last few lines)
22:39.50chris152elkano? you got a pn at wowinterface.com ;)
22:40.02KirkburnYeah, sounds fine to me
22:40.08XLVIII think there was a uh.. guy in here, his name was 'Nerd', he had a super slim UI.. does anyone have his uh.. link in their logs?
22:40.33Elkanochris152: read it, but no; it's not my intention behind b'n'm
22:40.56ckknightXLVII, Industrial's is pretty slim
22:41.07ElkanoKirkburn: ok, I just wondered that noone else had the idea before
22:41.22chris152ookay ^^
22:41.37KirkburnHeh, it always take someone to think of the obvious :)
22:43.01Nickenyfikendoes "player" in UnitName("player") need translation?
22:45.05Tem|AFKno
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22:45.17Tem|AFKunitids are locale-independent
22:45.19kergothTain, prat works for that, just kill all the modules you dont need
22:45.25vhaarrckknight: Maybe close the Cartographer dewdrop menu when the map frame is closed, it stayed open here after closing the map.
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22:45.59ckknightvhaarr, yea, I should track down that bug.
22:46.13vhaarrckknight: Ah, it's a dewdrop bug, or?
22:46.38ckknightmmm... not sure how to label it.
22:46.40KirkburnSomeone poke Curney and say "ooh, I need Prat, liek really bad, yeah. Pwetty pwease, wiv sugar n' stuff on top?"
22:46.51ckknightyou could say it's a dewdrop bug...
22:47.00ckknightwhatever, I'm hacking up AceDB.
22:47.40Tem|AFKwhat are you doing to AceDB?
22:48.19vhaarrCan I access the AceModuleCore somehow from a module without setting a reference myself?
22:48.33vhaarrSeems logical to me that they should have a reference to their core.
22:49.11Tem|AFKin Ace1 it was module.app
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22:49.45ckknightTem|AFK, I'm making Copy From work properly.
22:49.52Tem|AFKoh good
22:49.56Tem|AFKthat was annoying me recently
22:50.10ckknightvhaarr, the core can change the module prototype.
22:50.17Tem|AFKvhaarr, I think what you want is addon.moldulePrototype.app = addon
22:50.20ckknightvhaarr, so it's up to the core to set modulePrototype.app
22:50.27ckknightright.
22:50.37vhaarrckknight: I don't see how changing the prototype makes sense.
22:50.37ckknightthough I'd call it core.modulePrototype.core = core
22:50.42Zyphrhas anyone looked at this http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5530-imba.html?
22:50.43vhaarryes, I use .core now.
22:50.45ckknightvhaarr, what do you mean?
22:50.55vhaarrWhy would the prototype change?
22:50.59Tem|AFKvhaarr, modules inherit from core.modulePrototype
22:51.02ckknightthe core can alter it.
22:51.39vhaarrObviously, but I don't see why it would ever be done, and I don't see how it blocks adding a .core reference automatically.
22:52.04Tem|AFK...
22:52.45ckknightbecause you may not want it to be there automatically.
22:52.48ckknightthat's all.
22:52.55vhaarrfair enough, who cares
22:53.05vhaarrckknight: Anyway, there are a few untranslated strings in AceDB that I've noticed.
22:53.12ckknightmmm... probably.
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22:53.18vhaarrckknight: Want me to point them out with a patch, or will you plow them yourself?
22:53.23ckknightpoint them out.
22:53.31ckknightnot necessarily with a patch.
22:53.34vhaarrI'll do that after your next commit.
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22:55.27ckknightokay.
22:56.35kergothis there a tiny addon to just warn me periodically when my weapon tempbuffs wear off?
22:56.42kergothi'm notorious for forgetting to reapply my poisons
22:56.58kergothi mean once they're completely warn off, keep pestering periodically as long as i'm not rested
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23:02.31XLVIIkergoth, I downloaded Neebler's UI, it had WeaponRebuff included.
23:02.38XLVIIYou should give that a go.
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23:02.55XLVIII think there is a uh.. FuBar Plugin for it too.
23:04.02CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r17811 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua:
23:04.02CIA-17.AceDB-2.0 - made the Copy From much better.
23:04.02CIA-17changed :SetProfile(name, copyFrom) => :SetProfile(name)
23:04.02CIA-17added :CopyFromProfile(copyFrom)
23:04.17ckknight^-- oh, that also allows you to copy from anywhere to anywhere.
23:04.35ckknightclass => char or anything.
23:04.41kergothhooray
23:04.59ckknightplztest
23:05.00ckknightkthx
23:05.07ckknightI need to update FuBar for that, I believe.
23:05.17ckknightnote: I do not plan to backport
23:05.19ckknighttoo much hassle.
23:05.26ckknightpeople can wait 3 weeks.
23:05.43ckknightI'll backport bugfixes, but not feature dealies.
23:06.01ag`I think the author of SCT was looking for that feature
23:06.07ag`greywind right
23:06.19ckknightprobably
23:06.23ckknighthe's never on IRC, though
23:09.48CIA-1703ckknight * r17812 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - added support for new AceDB copy from stuff.
23:09.53ckknightthere we go.
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23:17.01Nickenyfikenawsome! have been waiting for that profile copy fix :-)
23:17.52ckknightI was bored and needed something to do
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23:18.18mjc~seen kodewulf
23:18.34purlkodewulf <n=Kodewulf@220-253-19-15.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 17m 24s ago, saying: 'Elkano: hi... '.
23:18.34vhaarrckknight: Want a line number list or string list?
23:18.34vhaarrOr patch.
23:18.37ckknightwell, string list I guess.
23:19.23mjckergoth: 25G, incl. 10 levels worth of skills...
23:19.28mjcnot bad :)
23:19.42kergoth:)
23:19.50CIA-1703ckknight * r17813 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua:
23:19.50CIA-17Cartographer - added events Cartographer_MapClosed and Cartographer_MapOpened.
23:19.50CIA-17Dewdrop menu now properly closes when map is closed.
23:19.56mjcstill "Unknown" time on transfer
23:20.22vhaarrckknight: "<profile name>", "Choose another profile", "Other", "Copy settings from another profile", "Copy from", "Choose a profile", "Choose"
23:20.35vhaarrckknight: And then there's these |t.char = 'Character: ' .. charID|
23:20.43ckknightah
23:20.46vhaarrNot sure if they should/could be localized.
23:20.53ckknightthey should
23:20.57ckknighteverything should be localized
23:21.28vhaarrSo they would still work if your locale was frFR and you wanted to copy a enUS profile?
23:21.37vhaarrif localized
23:21.59vhaarrNot sure if |t.char| is a key or just a representation.
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23:23.12vhaarrThey're used in both RecalculateAceDBProfileList and RecalculateAceDBCopyFromList.
23:23.23ckknightyep, I see
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23:24.24Goebcan anyone answer a simple lua question?   workin on another grid module...
23:24.35vhaarrMost likely; just ask.
23:24.52GoebI want to add to this:
23:24.53Goebblah = {
23:24.53Goeb<PROTECTED>
23:24.53Goeb<PROTECTED>
23:24.53Goeb<PROTECTED>
23:24.53Goeb}
23:25.13Goebwhat's the easiest way to add foo3 foo4 etc to it
23:25.30mjcpush, probably ? if Lua even has it
23:25.53ckknighttable.insert
23:26.02Goeboooooh, right...
23:26.06ckknightactually.
23:26.07ckknightno
23:26.18ckknightwait
23:26.20ckknightum
23:26.22ckknightyea
23:26.37ckknighttable.insert(blah, { a = "foo3", b = "bar3" })
23:27.30Goebcan I add more than one row at a time?
23:27.38Goebor only one per insert...
23:28.48ckknightonce per insert.
23:29.01Goebok, thanks
23:30.05CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r17814 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - localized all strings.
23:30.14ckknightI really hate dealing with two branches.
23:30.22ckknighttrunk is localized, TBC isn't
23:30.55vhaarrah, I was wondering why I forgot AceDB the first time around.
23:31.09vhaarrguess I didn't.
23:31.21ckknightvhaarr, well, TBC has more strings localized.
23:31.31vhaarryeah, the _COLON stuff.
23:31.34ckknightI'm gonna go through and transfer the translations
23:32.17vhaarrYou could just lock Ace2 trunk now and say that all development happens on 2.0.
23:32.22ckknightI could
23:32.24ckknightschwing.
23:32.45mjczziiiiiiiiiiingggggggg
23:33.14ckknightit's already locked to just ops now.
23:33.19vhaarrTag it and acquire a svn lock, and then ignore it until 2.0.
23:33.27mjchaha
23:33.36mjcvhaarr: double zing
23:33.40vhaarr:P
23:33.50ckknightI really just want to make the branch the trunk, but that'll break people still in vanilla.
23:34.22ckknight:-(
23:34.30ckknightI'm gonna go get lunch
23:34.50ckknightwhy can't they just release 2.0?
23:35.15Nickenyfikenhope they do it soon
23:36.02vhaarrhttp://www.randomexcuse.com/
23:36.07vhaarrPick one.
23:36.09vhaarr:P
23:36.25vhaarr"My trailer home was baptizing my neighbor."
23:36.35Funkeh`"My AK-47 was cleaning my child."
23:36.42Funkeh`and its in blue so must be blizz
23:36.49vhaarrconfirmed
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23:41.57doktoreashi to all
23:42.15doktoreasis there an ace addon to get people who is signed up in phpraid?
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23:45.06SerachtHi
23:45.12Serachtanyone here having any errors with oRA2?
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23:46.31Serachtspecifically : nterface\addons\ora\loadondemand.lua 105 Attempt to index a global 'oRA' (a nil value)
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23:48.45vhaarrSeracht: Where is your Core.lua located?
23:48.58Serachtum
23:49.12Serachtin my ora2 folder
23:49.24Serachtbut the error should be interface\addons\ora2\
23:49.32vhaarrright
23:49.45Serachtam I supposed to download oRA as well?
23:49.47Serachtor just oRA2?
23:49.53vhaarrjust 2
23:50.00CIA-1703dahn * r17815 10Bidder/Libs/: Bidder: adding externals
23:50.07Serachtso know whats up wth this vharr
23:50.25vhaarryes
23:50.49vhaarrto late for me to fix it now, I'll prod ammo about it tomorrow.
23:51.05Serachtyou know how I can fix it?
23:51.17Seracht;)
23:51.29vhaarrwell, temporarily you can just ignore it and activate oRA manually
23:51.42SarozI actually made a bid mod, with timers and bidding GUI, but in the end you can't account for everything :p
23:51.55Serachtvhaar how do I do that?
23:52.06vhaarrSeracht: Click it?
23:52.10Serachtdon't see anything
23:52.27vhaarrAsk someone else, I'm gone.
23:52.39Serachtalright heh
23:54.52Serachtfor all the oRA_XXXX mods in wow ace, are those compatible with oRA2?

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