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00:00.08JensI have the Ultra-X. I love it.
00:00.10AmadeoI'd pay $20 for one if I could get it
00:00.17kergoththere are companies that sell em individually
00:00.22JensAnd few are as picky and militant about keyboards as me.
00:00.34kergothi love how compact it is
00:00.39kergothno 8 quadrillion media buttons
00:00.53Amadeochecking newegg
00:01.22JensI like having *some* media buttons, and the six here are just enough.
00:01.49JensI remap those in foobar2000 anyway, so my "e-mail" button is "stop".
00:01.50kergothi just replaced mine with the logitech mx5000 bt wireless keyboard
00:01.52Amadeowow
00:01.56kergothits not bad, the stroke is long again though :(
00:01.56Amadeo$13 at newegg
00:02.04Amadeoout of stock :(
00:02.12kergothcheck pricegrabber.com or so
00:02.20Amadeolooks different though
00:02.22Amadeois this it?
00:02.24JensMy UltraX survived nasty beer spill too.
00:02.27Amadeohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823126135
00:02.38kergothi've gone through 3 ultra x's, due to accidents and wear
00:02.45kergothi want to buy a couple 5 packs for spares in case they stop making them
00:02.59kergothAmadeo, thats it
00:03.08Amadeocool
00:03.13AmadeoI'm gonna get one, people talk about them a lot
00:03.23JensLogitech doesn't realize how awesome this keyboard is.
00:03.41ckknightwhat I want is like a full-body suit, and a VR-style screen, then play WoW
00:03.45ckknightthat'd be fun.
00:03.55ckknight;-)
00:04.46Funkeh`and strange :P
00:05.04Amadeockknight: People might look at you strange when you're cussing about Intercept as you walk down the street
00:05.27Funkeh`who cares about intercept, DAMN SPAMSTRING
00:05.29ckknightbut you know that Matrix-style WoW would be awesome.
00:06.15Amadeohaha
00:08.14Amadeoohh
00:08.19Amadeothe Newegg UltraX is PS/2
00:08.21Amadeothat's why it's cheaper
00:08.58Amadeowhich is fine for me, I don't really like wasting my USB ports for a keyboard anyway!
00:10.51snurrehttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/ awesome movie
00:11.08Gngskanyone here used healbot assist?
00:12.04Amadeosnurre: That's really strange
00:13.17a-stray-catAmadeo: don't ps2 keyboards have a limit to how many keys can be pressed at a time?
00:13.34snurrenormally around 4-ish as max
00:13.43AmadeoI didn't think that was a PS/2 limitation, is it?
00:13.49snurrenope
00:13.51AmadeoI thought it was a keyboard buffer thing
00:13.59snurremy keyboard is ps2 and i can use 9 at once
00:14.00snurrehttp://www.steelseries.com/news/community_news/coming_soon_steelkeys_6g
00:14.09a-stray-cati guess its a per-keyboard thing then
00:14.24Amadeosnurre: That keyboard looks nice, but it's $120 in the US..too much :P
00:14.30pastamancerFunkeh`: nope, not here
00:14.31snurrecheaper than optimus :p
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00:14.42ckknight$120 is a bit much for a keyboard
00:14.52snurretbh, it's worth it
00:14.55snurreit's awesome
00:15.16AmadeoI bust up my keyboards too fast
00:15.27snurreit's so smooth to use, has a complete different "feel" to it than regular keyboards
00:15.37snurrei ate through keyboards like a mofo while I was pvping :p
00:15.47a-stray-catmaybe that keyboard will last for the same amount of time as $120 worth of cheapo keyboards :P
00:15.48pastamancerbuy keyboards that don't suck :p
00:15.48snurrethis thing is robust as fuck tho
00:16.06snurretried most "top models" out there, nothing comes close to this one
00:16.54snurreif you want a fancy, really expensive keyboard, check out Optimus-103 :p
00:16.59Amadeopastamancer: Very few keyboards don't suck
00:17.02pastamancersnurre: how does it compare to the the heavy, clickity-clack IBM keyboards?
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00:17.31Amadeosnurre: That's not even out yet
00:17.48snurreit's relatively heavy, but the buttons are very smooth.. kinda like laptops, just alot different :p
00:17.56snurreAmadeo: preorders dec 12th
00:18.06AmadeoYeah
00:18.17Amadeobut fancy graphics aside, what if the keyboard itself blows?
00:18.17snurrehttp://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
00:18.19pastamancerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_Keyboard
00:18.23a-stray-cat;)
00:18.59Amadeothe Optimus *looks* really cool
00:19.07Amadeobut it also looks like it would be a bitch to type on
00:19.19snurrehehe, i don't.. i work for a different relatively famous company.. i just happen to love my new keyboard :p
00:19.53snurreyeah, i think optimus will be just a fancier version of logitech dinovo or wtfever it was called
00:20.14snurreit IS fancy tho
00:20.15snurreePeen2k
00:20.17Amadeosnurre: They chopped off buttons - http://community.livejournal.com/optimus_project/8800.html
00:20.30snurreyeah, i heard
00:20.41snurregot some people here who are preordering it :p
00:20.46Amadeohow much is it?
00:20.48snurrei was considering it for a while, but not anymore
00:20.51AmadeoI don't see price details
00:20.55snurre$250 last i heard
00:20.57Amadeorofl
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00:21.06Amadeosnurre: Your keyboard will be better, just not fancy looking
00:21.34snurreyeah, it looks like shit but fuck that.. I'm a gamer
00:21.42Amadeohm
00:21.50Amadeoit requires external power to light up the keys?
00:21.51snurreproper mouse, keyboard and monitor is worth some extra cash
00:22.08snurrenot afaik
00:22.15pastamancerall that crap on the steelkeys website about "ooh look gold-plated connectors" makes me think of monster cables ><
00:22.19Funkeh`$250 for a keyboard??
00:22.24Amadeopastamancer: haha
00:22.29snurrepastamancer: lol yeah
00:22.59snurreit's the perfect keyboard to smash into chat like GRAFDGFADSGRA>GFAV>SGHG tho, as you can slam your fist and it registers all buttons :p
00:23.09pastamancerget one of those unicomp or lexmark model M clones and have a keyboard that will last forever
00:23.24Amadeosnurre: I just read on that livejournal site that it needs external power, lol
00:23.40snurrehad some of those back in the days, pasta.. they were quite sturdy indeed :p
00:23.47Amadeo"Optimus keyboard will be shipped with a power adapter. Hundred of LEDs beneath the keys cannot be powered by USB alone."
00:23.49snurrei did manage to break one in the end
00:24.09pastamancerhow'd you manage that?!
00:24.11snurrethis one feels even more robust, without the cheap feeling
00:24.17snurreI got r14.. go figure
00:24.24snurre(and a bit of a temper at times)
00:24.35snurrepvp kills peripherals
00:24.37pastamancercheap feeling?!  my 139401 doesn't feel cheap :(
00:24.41Amadeopastamancer: I broke a Northgate too
00:25.00pastamancerI have killed a couple of logitech mice, but never my keyboard
00:25.25pastamancerhmm, afk.  it's pasta time
00:25.27snurreI broke a M$ natural keyboard 3 in half
00:25.33snurreeven the space key split
00:25.41KirkburnArgh, why does my Xbox 360 controller not work on XP :/
00:25.57snurrepfft, xp.. vista ftw
00:26.30KirkburnAhh, that's better, it worked that time
00:26.49a-stray-cati couldn't get my sound to work in vista :<
00:26.56Kirkburna-stray-cat, Audigy?
00:27.08a-stray-catfatality
00:27.09a-stray-catlulz
00:27.15KirkburnTried the Creative beta drivers?
00:27.16snurrea friend of mine couldnt get his ati setup to work at all and had to revert.. ive had zero problems
00:27.18a-stray-cati did
00:27.22a-stray-catthey wouldn't work with rc2
00:27.31snurre100% positive experience with vista so far
00:27.52a-stray-catvista was really pretty though
00:27.54a-stray-cati may try again
00:28.03Kirkburna-stray-cat, most of the Creative drivers ahve been useless throughout the beta, so I'm just hoping it's sorted for RTM
00:28.09snurreoh yeah.. Frost template with minimum intensity = brushed glass
00:28.09snurreftw
00:28.28Kirkburnsnurre, pretty similar here fortunately
00:28.39snurreor graphite at max :p
00:29.09snurreit's surprisingly light on resource hog, compared to the visuals of xp
00:29.13KirkburnYou have very similar taste to me :D
00:29.38KirkburnYeah, I'm amazed how smooth it is, so much nicer than XP ever was
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00:29.47snurreyea
00:30.11snurreim a sucker for eyecandy tho :p
00:30.22snurrei prefer my UIs looking pwetty
00:30.24AmadeoProbably no point in running it on this PC
00:30.47Kirkburnheh - well I have Windowblinds installed on XP, I hate the standard UI so much
00:30.59KirkburnAmadeo, what kind of spec?
00:31.16KirkburnA PC that runs XP well can run Vista
00:31.33XuerianArs had a breakdown of what could run XP
00:31.34Xuerianer
00:31.35Xuerianvista
00:31.35snurreyeah, only problem may be compatibility with very old hardware
00:31.59snurrecompatibility seems to be more of an issue than performance requirement
00:32.02Xuerianram over 1gb seems to be the biggest thing, with a standard (! standard) video card to back it up.
00:32.17AmadeoKirkburn: P4 2.26GHz, 768MB RAM :P
00:32.18nevcairieldoes anyone know if Kaelten plans to update OneBag and OneBank to BC any time soon?
00:32.25KirkburnAmadeo, should be fine :)
00:32.49ckknightnevcairiel, I updated it to work priliminarily in TBC (added pairs and whatnot)
00:32.51Amadeo:D
00:33.07XuerianAmadeo: Geeet mor ram
00:33.51ckknightI'm all patched up, and now I sit at the authenticating screen for TBC...
00:33.53ckknighthooray.
00:34.09XuerianNew PC, ck?
00:34.16nevcairielckknight: yeah OneBag works, but OneBank is broken
00:34.22nevcairielprobably because of that one new bank slot
00:34.22ckknightXuerian, temporary PC while mine's getting fixed.
00:34.34Xuerianckknight:  Ah
00:34.47snurregod, i would never let anyone touch my hardware :p
00:34.54KirkburnMight have a bit of slowdown some rare points, but generally you should performance about the same as XP I would predict
00:34.54KalamadiThat's, like. A sin
00:34.54AmadeoSome servers have no downtime on Tuesday? That's really strange
00:34.55XuerianXD
00:35.01ckknightI basically need a mobo replacement, snurre
00:35.08ckknightand seeing as it's a laptop, I'm not doing that myself
00:35.09AmadeoXuerian: I have a dead 512MB stick :(
00:35.31XuerianAmadeo: damn
00:35.38AmadeoI wonder if you can fix RAM somehow :P
00:35.41snurreas long as I could get hold of a mobo I would do it myself
00:37.04XuerianYeah, wouldn't touch a lappy...
00:37.10ckknightmmm... so are the TBC realms up or not? and if they are up, anyone else stuck at Authenticating?
00:37.40Nargiddleyi'm stuck there as well, i'm assuming they are down
00:37.42snurreeveryone are stuck
00:37.46ckknightaw.
00:38.13nevcairiellogin was disabled because of the maintenance
00:38.24ckknightwell, someone tell me when it's up.
00:38.35AmadeoI'll never buy Mushkin RAM again
00:38.41nevcairielin 90minutes, if they keep their schedule
00:38.54XuerianBranded ram?
00:38.56XuerianWhat's that?
00:39.05XuerianI just ask for "can I have more used ram kthx"
00:39.14ckknightin 90 minutes, I have class :-(
00:39.29KirkburnCrucial.com
00:39.35Kirkburn^ good site for mem
00:39.44AmadeoXuerian: Some unbranded RAM won't work in motherboards
00:39.51snurreunbranded ftl
00:39.52Kirkburn(nay, excellent site)
00:39.55snurreyou get what you pay for
00:40.21a-stray-catfor ram, i agree.
00:40.30XuerianAmadeo: This is where you pull the "About-face & return".
00:40.33XuerianXD
00:40.41Xuerian"geiv new brand plx!"
00:40.45snurrei remember running my Mosel PC133 SDRAM at 192mhz rock stable.. <3 proper brands
00:40.47Xuerian"ooh shiny sticker."
00:41.35mjcwhere's the horde VW quest start
00:41.36mjcUD
00:41.40snurreUC
00:41.49XuerianMagey sector
00:41.54mjcdanke
00:42.19AmadeoWarlocks are fun in the expansion, though I have a feeling they won't be great in Arenas
00:42.19mjclvl12 in 17hrs.
00:43.11ckknightwho will be good in arenas?
00:43.11ckknightalso, what levels are the arenas for?
00:43.22Amadeonot sure, I know 60-70 :)
00:43.27snurretbh I think everything but warriors will be good in arenas
00:43.46AmadeoI think Warlocks will do well in the 3v3 and 5v5 arenas
00:43.52snurreatm it seems to be the absolute worst arena class
00:44.12a-stray-catwhy would warriors be bad in arenas?
00:44.27Amadeoeveryone else got brand new stuff, made the classes much stronger
00:44.35snurreseverely nerfed damage output and no new tools to compensate for being melee
00:44.35AmadeoWarriors got shield reflect and a nerf
00:44.40Amadeolol
00:44.58mjcdruid++
00:45.01AmadeoYeah
00:45.02a-stray-catno way, a dual wield warrior charged me the other day and i just fell over :/
00:45.10AmadeoI think Druids are owning everyone right now
00:45.10AzurewrathMages got nerfs too...
00:45.15a-stray-cati have to pop tbw for even a chance to survive
00:45.27uszsuch a shame, i still remember times when with healers i could chop through enemies without any problem...
00:45.34Amadeoa-stray-cat: What class are you?
00:45.37a-stray-cathunter
00:45.51AmadeoBM Hunters seem to be eating everyone alive
00:45.56a-stray-cati eat casters
00:45.59a-stray-catpaladins and warriors
00:46.01a-stray-cati have trouble with
00:46.05AmadeoIn beta?
00:46.09usz40 -> 25 enrage nerf was the beginning of the dawn of warriors ^^
00:46.14a-stray-catlike i said, charge->death :/
00:46.23a-stray-catyah in beta
00:46.32a-stray-catpaladin will run up with and hoj me
00:46.37a-stray-catand i'll be almost dead coming out
00:46.38snurrethere's only two things about warriors that *arent* nerfed in 2.0/tbc.. rend and slam
00:46.38kebinusanwarriors are a bit upset they cant use 30 min cooldowns in arenas though
00:46.41AmadeoPaladins are nuts too
00:46.45snurreboth of which are still shit
00:46.48kebinusananyone else having trouble with the login servers to the US beta server
00:46.55Amadeokebinusan: It's down for maint
00:46.58snurrekebinusan: can you blame them? everyone else can use their longest timers :/
00:47.10Azurewraththe greatest nerf of Mages is lvl 70 itself and the massive HP increase.. :/
00:47.26KalamadiMeh, mages had it coming
00:47.27AmadeoI think the classes that will do best in arenas are those who do not rely on crowd control to do well
00:47.31snurreyeah, imagine not being able to 1shot people anymore.. oh teh horror
00:47.33kebinusanI havent tried pvp on my lock yet
00:47.39AmadeoRogues, for one...they can use all their cooldowns in each arena, that's amazing
00:47.48snurrereroll warlock and 1shot soulfire kills :p
00:47.59kebinusanspell reflect oh noes
00:48.16kebinusanFel armor is pretty damn sexy pve though
00:48.17snurrespell reflect costs 25 rage, and you cant use that if you're already seduced
00:48.25kebinusanI love getting 536 a tick bandages
00:48.34AmadeoPeople will get owned by spell reflect for a month or two, then everyone will realize, "Oh look, when he flashes yellow, cast a rank 1"
00:48.37a-stray-cathax :<
00:48.40snurreseduce -> soulfire -> deatchoil -> shadowbolt.. goodbye warrior
00:48.50kebinusanyeah same old same old
00:49.04AmadeoI love Fel Armor
00:49.05KalamadiCan we discuss Paladin's 8th tier holy talent, Holy Guidance?
00:49.09snurrethe new spell damage coefficients just make no sence :(
00:49.15a-stray-cati still die to warlocks as a bm hunter :/ even if i kill them i'll keel over later
00:49.23snurreKalamadi: Endless Rage kthx
00:49.25Nargiddleyyeah Fel Armor is so nice
00:49.33AmadeoI'll never use Demon Armor again
00:49.40Kalamadisnurre: Yeah, that's totally unrelated.
00:49.42kebinusanIm really not impressed wtih affliction so far, I think it is probably more useful pvp
00:49.52kebinusanbut Im loving my heavhy destro build, atm Im 5/13/42
00:49.54Nargiddleyi'm loving affliction atm
00:50.02AmadeoReally, kebinusan? Affliction is incredible for leveling
00:50.07AmadeoI never need a single food/water item
00:50.11AmadeoI can just fight forever
00:50.15kebinusanAmadeo: takes too long to kill stuff
00:50.20AmadeoYeah
00:50.22Amadeobut no downtime
00:50.35nevcairielfaster kill + dring = same time ? :D
00:50.37Nargiddleyi'm not finding it takes that long to kill things
00:50.38nevcairiel*drink
00:50.46Amadeowell
00:50.49AmadeoI normally kill a few things at once
00:50.53KalamadiAnyway. Holy Guidance. 35% of INT as +damage/healing. Seems very weak.
00:50.54AmadeoKite mobs around
00:50.56kebinusanwith soul leech and the fact that incinerate costs so little mana I find it worthwile
00:51.05Nargiddleytried dest, and the downtime was horrible for leveling
00:51.18Nargiddleyah, dont have incin yet
00:51.25AmadeoI can do 4 level 60-62's at once, of course depending on mob type
00:51.26KalamadiThe new Soul Siphon is good, by the way
00:51.30Kalamadi15% of mana
00:51.33Nargiddleyplanning to try it out once i get 64
00:51.41kebinusanincinerates base cost is only 330 mana
00:51.48Amadeokebinusan: What level do you get Incinerate?
00:51.53kebinusan64 I think
00:51.59AmadeoI'm almost 63 :(
00:52.19kebinusanwell of souls is pretty sexy too, alot of mages want something similar to hand out water
00:53.01AmadeoArenas are hard to test out unless you have amazing gear
00:53.09AmadeoSince Blizzard invited all the raiders to TBC
00:53.18KalamadiHow is Crusader Strike in TBC?
00:53.21Amadeomost of the time you go up against Rogues with full Naxx gear
00:53.48kebinusanThere are two things I really hate so far though, heavly affliction builds make all the crit on my gear worthless, and Im not a big fan of losing .5 crit% every level
00:53.53AmadeoKalamadi: I don't know anything about Paladins in TBC, but I saw one solo an Elite that killed 3 other level 60-61's
00:54.08KalamadiAmadeo: We've always been able to do that :x
00:54.43nevcairielso why do you complain ? :P
00:54.48AmadeoKalamadi: I'm saying the elite killed a group of 3 level 60-ish players
00:54.50Amadeoand the Paladin soloed it
00:55.07Nargiddleywhich elite ?
00:55.16AmadeoNargiddley: The naga in Zangarmarsh
00:55.19Amadeonot the caster
00:55.21Amadeothe melee guy
00:55.29Amadeo61 Paladin soloed it
00:55.33Nargiddleyk havent seen that one yet
00:55.51Nargiddleytook out a couple of the quest elites solo with a felguard
00:56.01Amadeowhich area?
00:56.10Amadeoalmost everything is fearable in Hellfire
00:56.15Amadeobut nothing is in Zangarmarsh
00:56.18Nargiddleywas just in hellfire
00:56.33Nargiddleyno fear tho, just nice trinkets heh
00:56.34AmadeoRemember that tip before you try to solo the elites in Zangar like I did :)
00:56.41Amadeothey start hitting hard and fast
00:56.51KirkburnThere's a couple of elites in Zangarmarsh
00:56.54Nargiddleyblack book + fetish, nuke it down fast with felguard tanking
00:57.00KirkburnWas it the caster naga or warrior-type?
00:57.02Amadeooh you have good gear, maybe you can :)
00:57.07AmadeoKirkburn: Warrior type
00:57.07kebinusanI soloed Levixus on my lock, that was fun
00:57.22KirkburnYeah, doubt the pally could have coped with the caster one :P
00:57.37a-stray-cati kited one elite in zangamarsh to the cenarion refuge and made the guards kill it >.>
00:57.39AmadeoI don't even know who Levixus is :)
00:57.44Amadeohaha
00:58.05Amadeothere was a 70 Orc Warrior killing all the NPCs in Cenarion Refuge earlier today
00:58.19KirkburnYeah people do that with the crystal giants and Telhamat on HFP :P
00:58.35AmadeoI'm surprised how powerful it seems classes get at 70
00:58.44Amadeothe Warrior was taking on 2-3 70's at once, without losing much HP
00:58.45kebinusanHe's this level 66 demon in Auchindoun for a quest, nothing special just dot kited him cause no one would help me
00:59.09AmadeoAuchindoun? That sounds like another language
00:59.20KirkburnBig ruins in Terrokar
00:59.25KirkburnTerokkar, even
00:59.29Amadeointeresting
00:59.30kebinusanthe big pimple in Terokkar
00:59.53AmadeoAny of you guys try out that instance in Zangarmarsh?
01:00.03kebinusanIve done slave pens and underbog
01:00.22snurredid them during alpha, not since :p
01:00.25kebinusanunderbug has a couple fun fights
01:00.29a-stray-cati didnt make it past that second room in slave pens
01:00.29AmadeoAll I know is I swam down that pipe thing and went into some instance
01:00.41Amadeoand I took such a huge framerate hit that I couldn't even look around
01:00.43Amadeojust had to leave
01:01.09kebinusanThere is a boss in Shadow Lab that I really like though, every 45 seconds or so he mind controls your party and makes you fight each other
01:01.16Amadeohaha
01:01.16Amadeocool
01:01.26AmadeoImagine if you bring a level 70 to help you out
01:01.31Amadeoor is that a 70 instance? :)
01:01.38kebinusanits 70ish
01:02.08Amadeohow does the heroic instance thing work?
01:02.28kebinusanI havent done one yet, like 900k from 70 :-(
01:02.41Amadeo:(
01:02.49Amadeodo you have your 6000g?
01:03.06kebinusanyep
01:03.22AmadeoSend me some extra!
01:03.24kebinusanon ptr anyway
01:03.37kebinusanI just copied my main over twice and mailed the gold to one char
01:03.51Amadeohaha
01:03.59AmadeoI hardly have money on my mains
01:05.27snurrehttp://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4521/goldwg5.jpg
01:05.27a-stray-catgee, have enough gold there?
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01:05.27snurreshould last long enough, i guess
01:05.32snurrenot that I play much there anyway
01:05.47Amadeosend me some too!
01:06.14snurreim on tempest keep eu if you need some
01:06.25Amadeodamn
01:06.28Amadeocopy to US for a minute!
01:07.18kebinusanSave the cheerleader save the world
01:08.14Meiunneed next ep~~
01:08.22TainHour away
01:08.51snurrewtb next episode of dexter instead, much better! :p
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01:25.35Zerylis there an event that fires when a member of a guild goes offline, or comes online?  the only thing that i think COULD be used it PLAYER_GUILD_UPDATE
01:25.52ckknightnah, it's CHAT_MSG_SYSTME
01:25.57ckknightCHAT_MSG_SYSTEM
01:26.01ckknightthen run deformat on arg1
01:26.33Zerylthanks :)
01:26.41Zerylshould be easer, imo, but i can't tell them that :)
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01:36.58Zerylbtw, thank you ckknight, that worked perfectly
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01:37.30ckknight:-)
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01:40.16KirkburnIt is possible to have the Blizz target castbar on UF addons? Cause I really miss it
01:40.46KirkburnOr alternatively - are there any target castbar addons out there yet?
01:43.15KirkburnAm I, in fact, talking about Antagonist?
01:43.37KirkburnIs there, perhaps, anyone out there?
01:43.50KirkburnShall I, maybe, try it out and see?
01:44.24KirkburnWhy must you scorn me so! ;(
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01:47.33AzurewrathKirkburn: if you use agUF, try http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5488 :)
01:47.56Kirkburnooh
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02:02.02ckknightwell, classtime
02:10.17AmadeoOnly thing worth doing in WoW now is leveling up an alt
02:11.06Tekkubmerf
02:11.46Amadeomerf Druids
02:11.54ZerylAmadeo: that's the bad thing, we've all but stopped raiding due to more than 1/2 the guild thinking the same way :(
02:13.13AmadeoZeryl: One of the very early quests you get is for this - http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=360
02:13.27AmadeoI haven't even gotten any real blues yet
02:13.34Amadeoall my greens are better than a lot of old epics
02:13.36Zerylwow....
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02:14.05kebinusanImm almost 70 and havent found many items worth replacing my tier 3 with yet
02:14.14AmadeoYou're a Warlock though, right?
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02:14.30kebinusanyeah
02:14.35AmadeoIf your Tier 3 didn't have the resists, you'd replace it, right? :)
02:15.02kebinusantier 3 doesnt have resists?
02:15.05kebinusanerr does?
02:15.13Amadeowhich is Tier 3? I don't even know
02:15.32FelixTeCatt3 doesnt have resist I belive
02:15.38AmadeoSo many tiers these days
02:16.14AmadeoPlagueheart?
02:16.45kebinusanpyah
02:16.54AmadeoHm
02:16.54kebinusanplagueheart, no resists just peachy stats
02:16.59Funkeh`good night folks
02:17.02Funkeh`sleep well
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02:17.08AmadeoSome looks pretty good, but I've seen some low level stuff that's nice too
02:17.41KalamadiArgh. How come I always DC during Ony P2/
02:17.53Amadeowhat's the new cloth in TBC called again?
02:18.02kebinusanvoidheart
02:18.06Amadeono I mean
02:18.13Amadeolike runecloth...I forgot the name
02:18.16Amadeothe purple stuff
02:18.34kebinusannetherweave
02:18.34Nargiddleynetherweave
02:18.44Amadeothat's it! I kept thinking... Nethercloth..>Nether...something
02:18.57kebinusanand it drops way too often
02:19.15Amadeohttp://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=4591
02:19.17FelixTeCatIs there a ace2 replacement for Timex? I am trying to write a addon that I dont want to be dependent on timex.
02:19.18AmadeoI saw a pattern for that
02:19.52Amadeofor an early blue...that's nice
02:20.00Amadeomaybe not super early
02:20.01Amadeohaha
02:20.03kebinusanthere are alot of nice pieces
02:20.14XuerianFelixTeCat: Troggering events based on a timer? AceEvent does that...
02:20.29FelixTeCatok thanks
02:20.30kebinusanhttp://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=756 is an excellent level 65 quest reward
02:20.47Amadeokebinusan: What's the whole thing about joining a side in Shattrath? I keep hearing people talk about it
02:21.06kebinusanmaking tradeskills somewhat unique
02:21.17kebinusanso one person cant get everything, each faction has its own patterns and recipes
02:21.28Amadeoso it's nothing more than that?
02:21.28kebinusanand its own slightly different but basically the same rewards
02:21.39kebinusannot yet, who knows, might turn into something
02:21.42Amadeoyeah
02:21.46kebinusanI dont trust the Sha'tar
02:21.49TainA lot of people are pissed about the gear being so good in TBC, but it's going to be so much better for most people.
02:21.56AmadeoTain: Yeah, they'll get over it
02:22.04AmadeoTain: Once they raid and get new epics, they'll stop crying
02:22.06kebinusanBenevolent all powerful beings of light make me suspicious
02:22.23Amadeohehe
02:22.26kebinusanthe items are really good
02:22.51AmadeoI'm kind of afraid of how hard it's going to be to level up on a PvP server
02:23.09Amadeothey purposely made quests so that they overlap into each others territories
02:23.10kebinusanhide in instances for the first two weeks
02:23.43AmadeoI need some of the gear though, my stuff sucks
02:23.50Amadeopeople won't even want me for an instance :P
02:24.02TainPeople don't like having spend so much time doing all those AQ40 and Naxx raids for gear to have 5 and 10 mans give better stuff.
02:24.16TainOF course I think they're just being whiny bitches.
02:24.23kebinusanPeople are loot whores, raiding isnt about phat loot
02:24.33kebinusanI raid because I enjoy the content and the people I raid with
02:24.46AmadeoYeah, but don't you get Diablo syndrome?
02:24.55AmadeoWhere doing the SAME thing over and over gets really boring?
02:25.09AmadeoThat's why it turns into a loot game
02:25.33TainIt depends on the person.
02:26.03TainI only got loot in order to keep raiding, but you can't keep raiding unless you keep progressing.
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02:26.09TainAnd you can't progress without the gear.
02:26.47AmadeoRight, which means you have to keep raiding the same instance for a long time
02:26.53TainOf course I only raided in the first place because I was enjoying playing with friends.
02:27.57AmadeoPvE content in WoW is really cool, I just never get that feeling that I did back in early EQ :P
02:28.26Talyn600mi enjoy raiding because i'm in a great raid group.  but everything is a grind, be it questing, increasing rep, trying to complete armor/gear sets...   i don't like running 5man's over and over and over, but you have to do it
02:28.27AmadeoIt's the type of gameplay I think
02:29.08AmadeoWoW's fast/zerg/twitch/mash
02:29.23AmadeoYeah
02:29.31AmadeoThat's the one thing I don't really like
02:29.36Amadeothere are tons of faction grinds in TBC
02:30.14AmadeoSo far every town I've been to has a faction grind
02:30.39AmadeoIt's easy to get the rep so far, but it's possible they make it slower when it goes live
02:30.54Talyn600mthat's the way the whole game is
02:31.03AmadeoNot as bad as this
02:31.05Talyn600measy to start, and it slows down to keep you coming back
02:31.08Amadeooh
02:31.11Amadeohaha yeah
02:31.27Amadeobut right now, for example, you can gain 750 rep a pop to start out for Sporregar
02:31.39AmadeoI'm not sure at what point that stops and get slow, though
02:31.42AmadeoI really hate grinds
02:31.55kebinusanthe rep grinds arent so bad
02:32.02TainI'd rather do 5 mans than 40s over and over.
02:32.03kebinusanmost of the repetable quests give 250 rep apop
02:32.05Amadeokebinusan: There's juts a million of them
02:32.13AmadeoTain: I agree
02:32.14Talyn600mrep grinds aren't so bad?
02:32.16kebinusanbut you dont need to get them all to exalted right away
02:32.21Talyn600mAV maybe, otherwise they suck
02:32.38Amadeokebinusan: At what point does the 250 stop though?
02:32.43AmadeoI imagine at Honored or something?
02:32.44kebinusanand I think the rdungeons get some good replay with the new dunegon hard mode stuff
02:32.59kebinusanAmadeo: Idunno I havent spent alot of time grinding rep in beta
02:33.22AmadeoI like the new elk-type mounts :P
02:33.39kebinusanpeople seem to grind that pretty fast
02:33.41AmadeoThey look a little stuck up though :P
02:33.42Amadeoyeah
02:33.53kebinusanbut then I saw a level 70 Dranei Mage today on the beta realm
02:33.57Amadeohaha
02:34.01Amadeothere are so many now
02:34.10Amadeoand every  70 seems to have a flying mount, or 5
02:34.51Talyn600mi feel an influx of gold-buyers once this goes live and everyone wants a flying mount
02:35.02AmadeoYou gain gold pretty fast though
02:35.09kebinusanyeah
02:35.09AmadeoI started with about 10 gold at 60
02:35.18AmadeoI have about 400g now, just questing and selling to vendors
02:35.20Amadeono work involved
02:35.21kebinusanyou do gain gold pretty fast
02:35.39Kirkburn60- start of 64 has given me about 500g so far from vendors
02:35.51Amadeooh yeah, I'm 62, almost 63
02:35.58Kirkburn:)
02:36.01Amadeo:)
02:36.07Amadeoplus..
02:36.16Amadeothe AH prices are insane
02:36.24AmadeoI'm sure you'll be able to make money fast if you take advantage of it
02:36.30Amadeoinitially, anyway
02:37.21KirkburnBeta authentication is back up!
02:37.24Amadeocool :)
02:37.42KirkburnAnd they finally updated my password :D
02:38.02Amadeooff-topic, but I ran into an ex today at Costco...she must have gained like 80 lbs since I was with her...don't you love that feeling? :P
02:38.38Talyn600mdoes beta go down for maintenance tonight too? or just live
02:38.43KirkburnNo love lost there then :P
02:39.02Amadeohaha
02:39.04AmadeoShe was a bitch
02:39.20Amadeohm
02:39.22AmadeoI think I can log in
02:39.29KirkburnTalyn600m, think just live
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02:39.54Amadeowow
02:40.00AmadeoHellfire is up
02:40.23Amadeoanyone else Horde?
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02:41.39Talyn600mi have a lvl 10 belf, otherwise just alliance so far.  not enough time to get a horde up to raiding levels
02:42.15kebinusanThe auth server went down though so if you logged out you couldnt get back in
02:44.05Amadeowhoa
02:44.10AmadeoI just went into Shadowmoon Valley
02:44.12Amadeothat scared me
02:44.16AmadeoHunters mark, then I get ported out :P
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02:50.35Neeblerhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=924236369691897191&q=hard+n%27+phirm&hl=en
02:50.37Neeblerhahaha
02:51.35kebinusanNeebler:  yeah Seen that a few times its great
02:52.01KirkburnHmm, DurabilityFu has an oddly large amount of trailing space on FuBar
02:52.20KirkburnIt's as if someone put a couple of spaces after it
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02:56.39Karnhey anyone know of a decent inventory/bank sorter?
02:57.10AmadeoMrPlow?
02:57.56Antiar1I'm working on Sanity, if you want to try it out :)
02:58.03Antiar1I think it's decent, but I'm biased.
02:58.18Karni tried sanity ... sanity2 is b0rked
02:58.31Karnnot all the libs were complete
02:58.34Antiar1You use it on Live or TIC/PTR?
02:58.38Antiar1SVN was having problems
02:58.40KarnLive
02:58.42Antiar1Try an svn up
02:58.45Antiar1It won't work on live :)
02:58.54Antiar1If you want the live version, try...
02:59.04Antiar1http://wow.tachyonsix.com/sanity/Sanity-1.5.8.zip
02:59.09Antiar1Not Ace, but it works on Live.
02:59.31Karni'm trying to keep to just ace at the moment. i'll try mr plow. if it isnt want i waht i'll try sanity again ;)
03:00.58pastamancerI heartily endorse sanity 1.5.8 for people playing 1.12.  But then again I don't know what you want to do with it.
03:01.17Antiar1v2 is going to be vastly superior to 1.5.8
03:01.29pastamancerit certainly looks like it
03:02.50Kemayo~Sanity
03:02.58purlsanity is, like, something that most developers lack
03:03.12KemayoIncomplete, apparently.
03:03.44Antiar1I should learn to fix that
03:05.03Antiar1purl, Sanity is <literal>An inventory augmentation addon that allows you to search, sort, and tag your inventory, equipment, bank, and mail items, as well as that of your alts.
03:05.08purl...but sanity is already something else...
03:05.08Karnwell i'm used to engbags if you've come across it
03:05.08Antiar1Will that work?
03:05.11Antiar1Hahah
03:05.39MentalPower~literal sanity
03:05.41purl"sanity" is "something that most developers lack"
03:05.50MentalPowerI think that one's better
03:07.26Antiar1Sanity's less of a bag replacement than it is an augmentation
03:07.58Antiar1Sanity's less of a bag replacement than it is an augmentation to your bags to let you find and categorize stuff quickly.
03:08.09Antiar1Oy. Sorry about that.
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03:09.11KirkburnRight now, I think the only addon I'm missing from my BC setup is a chat addon, i.e. a version of Prat which isn't broken :(
03:09.28Karni wish i had a BC to set up :P
03:09.55PProvostSo, I'm late to the party as usual... is the 2.0 client going out tomorrow?
03:10.05KirkburnUnlikely
03:10.06Amadeonope
03:10.12Amadeoit was confirmed that it wasn't
03:10.17Kirkburnkk
03:10.19PProvostMy Launcher/Patcher just started the download...
03:10.21Amadeoread a blue post somewhere
03:10.27Amadeoit's just a piece of the patch
03:10.27KirkburnIt's just a background download
03:10.31PProvostCool
03:10.41KirkburnTesting a new version of it
03:10.47PProvostGotcha
03:10.47Kirkburn(the downloader)
03:10.53PProvostThanks
03:10.58Kirkburn=)
03:11.37CIA-1703fenlis * r17598 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/ (koKR.lua notes.lua):
03:11.37CIA-17Cartographer :
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03:12.54Karndoes mrplow literrally just do a bubble-sort on item names alphabetically?
03:13.42Antiar1Does it actually rearrange items in your inventory?
03:13.48Karnyes
03:13.51Karnwhich is what i want
03:13.54Antiar1I suspect so
03:14.08AmadeoMrPlow rearranges, yep
03:14.42PProvostI just wish it let me choose the order it uses...
03:15.23Karnits alphabetical
03:15.23PProvostNot really
03:15.23Karnwell ... kinda
03:15.24PProvostNot really :)
03:15.42Karnsorry to paste, but in the .lua are the following lines. consider maybe rearranging them?
03:15.43KarnARMOR = 1,
03:15.45KarnWEAPON = 2,
03:15.47KarnQUEST = 3,
03:15.49KarnKEY = 4,
03:15.52Karnetc
03:16.24Antiar1I'd say just set 'em all to 1, so if it's using that in a table.sort with alpha as secondary, it'll just hit the alpha fall-through
03:16.46Karnthen it will all be alphabetical :P
03:16.49PProvostYeah, I've been in there a bunch...
03:17.00PProvostBeen thinking about adding a configurable option...
03:17.07PProvostProlly won't get to it though...
03:17.33AmadeoMrPlow sometimes does things alphabetically, which kinda bugs me
03:17.42AmadeoI have four totems on my Shaman, 3 are together, one is seperate
03:17.46Amadeoin my bags
03:17.58Karnalso, the DMF cards never get put together
03:18.05PProvostI want this... soulbound, consumables, quest items, keys, etc.. up to the last one not-soulbound-green/blue items
03:18.17PProvostI want my AH stuff at the bottom. :)
03:18.22Karni might just suck up and run a non-ace mod
03:18.28Karnengbags is calling me back
03:18.49PProvost'tis nice
03:19.00Karnyou use it PProvost
03:19.01Karn?
03:19.11Amadeokebinusan: Ever since I hit Terokar, I'm disliking Affliction
03:19.14Amadeomobs are getting tougher
03:22.25KarnAntiar1: does sanity 1.5.8 move the items in the bags?
03:22.59Antiar1No - the idea is that it just bypasses the need for bag organization by letting you zip right to what you're looking for
03:23.14Antiar1For example, you're looking for runecloth, type "rune" into search and it'll filter the list to that
03:23.25Antiar1You can sort by name, category, rarity, etc
03:23.38Karnbut for quickly getting something i'd rather just point and click (and know where abouts in the frame its going to be)
03:23.40Antiar1In v2, you can tag and assign items to custom categories and then search on that
03:24.00Antiar1For pre-known stuff like that, I just use Sprocket menus :)
03:25.18Antiar1Sanity was originally written to keep me from going crazy trying to manage my guild bank
03:25.33Antiar1But it became useful enough that I started using it in normal stuff, too
03:26.31Karnwhat would be nice is a simple regex type auto-categorising
03:27.43Antiar1Like what?
03:28.14TainI like Studio 60, it's been better than I expected.
03:29.04KarnUse: Restores [0-9]{1,4} to [0-9]{1,4} mana = Mana pot
03:29.40AntiarcHm.
03:29.44AntiarcThat...actually wouldn't be hard.
03:30.11AntiarcI've been looking at mass-tagging search results, so I could add a regex tag in easily.
03:30.11Karnits what made engbags powerful
03:30.47AntiarcI've also toyed with the idea of adding "detachable bags" - ie, drag out a search result and it effectively becomes a dynamic bag.
03:31.12AntiarcSo, search for "poison", it returns a list of all poisons, drag them out onto UIParent to create a dynamic bag.
03:31.20Karnmost people i know try and organise "categories" of items into rows of an AllInOneInventory
03:31.43PProvostKarn: No I don't any more. I use OneBag + MrPlow now.
03:31.50weabbags are so stupidly gay
03:31.54KarnXuerian, thats what i'm tryin to get back to ;)
03:32.01weabi'm with Antiarc, there's no point in organizing bags
03:32.16weabjust get a sortable list of the crap.
03:32.23Tullerantiarc, I have /find itemName in vBagnon right now :)
03:32.55KarnPProvost, its a nice system but a) mrplow is slow, b)theres no way to define groups of items
03:33.15AntiarcI'll have to install engbags
03:33.29AntiarcCheck it out, see what ideas I could improve on.
03:33.33Tullerspeed!
03:33.55XuerianI might just run engbags regardless of garbage come tbc /shrug. There's no equivalent currently :P
03:34.03Karnbut a feature/module of sanity2 might be something along those lines Antiarc, say you set up a load of categories, when you open up your "bags" it can show a single frame with each "category"'s items seperated out
03:34.16AntiarcWell, it already does that
03:34.19AntiarcYou can sort by category
03:34.23AntiarcLemme see...
03:34.33Tullerlike this: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9528/vbanknonnr6.jpg? :P
03:34.34Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/sanity/SanityAce/screens/WoWScrnShot_111506_011527.jpg
03:34.36AntiarcThere's an example
03:34.43AntiarcNice.
03:34.53Antiarc"Buffs" is a custom category there
03:35.00KarnTuller has the right idea ;)
03:35.07AntiarcIf I type "buffs" into the search bar, it'll filter the list to the buffs only
03:35.20AntiarcI've also added a dropdown button since that screen that lists your categories
03:35.29AntiarcSo you click it, pick a category, boom, sorted list.
03:36.06Karnnice :)
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03:36.24AntiarcI'm using it as a ghetto item rack at the moment
03:36.32PProvostlol
03:36.35AntiarcI have DPS and tank armor sets set up for my warrior
03:36.55AntiarcSo I pop open Sanity, search "dps", and get my DPS gear that I can equip, rather than digging through my bags for each piece.
03:36.59Karntuller, what mod is that?
03:37.06XuerianI likey Tuller's shot...
03:37.17KirkburnvBagnon
03:37.18KarnXuerian: we're blatently engbags whores
03:37.28Kirkburn(Bagnon ftw =)
03:37.31XuerianKarn: Arr!
03:37.47XuerianWhere is this vbagnon <.<
03:37.47Karnvbagnon = ace?
03:37.58Tullernot at this time, no
03:38.02Karnbecause its not in the svn
03:38.04Karnah ok :(
03:38.06Karnshame
03:38.27XuerianTuller writes good mod. Me wants. ¬.¬
03:38.29TullerAntiarc: I'm assuming you have a tooltip parser somewhere
03:38.46KirkburnTuller, how close is vBagnon to a beta release? :)
03:38.51AntiarcAmong other things, yes. Which part are you talking about?
03:39.01Tulleryou just mentioned searching via DPS
03:39.16AntiarcNo, that's the tagging
03:39.22AntiarcYou can tag items with any number of tags
03:39.23Karni think he meant he searches for items tagged as dps
03:39.25AntiarcThen search on those tags
03:39.40Tulleryes, that's also useful :)
03:39.53Karnantiarc, make an "equip-all" button ;)
03:39.54Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/sanity/SanityAce/screens/WoWScrnShot_111506_012707.jpg - that's the tagging menu
03:39.57TullerKirkburn: not until I have at least Bongos for TBC done
03:39.59AntiarcKarn: That's on the feature list :)
03:40.06KirkburnOkies ... btw, a guess, Snidely is a warlock?
03:40.11AntiarcThat's a list of tags you've already used, and you can create new tags if you need to
03:40.12Karnwhat a guess ;)
03:40.42Kirkburnlol
03:40.52KirkburnThere is a beta of Bagnon for TBC btw
03:41.00KirkburnJust not for the rewrite (vBagnon)
03:41.14Karndamn you and your TBC antics
03:41.24Karneither that or geif account details :P
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03:44.59Tekkubah what to do...
03:45.36Tulleralso, yes Snidely is a warlock :)
03:46.05KirkburnDungeon Set 1 level?
03:46.19Tuller0.5
03:46.25KirkburnCool
03:46.35KirkburnI had a very similar inventory before I left for Outland
03:48.01TullervBagnon uses special events - bags at least :)
03:48.30Tullerin that, its ultimately necessary if you have more than a single inventory view, I think
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03:56.02TekkubI need to get SEBags tweaked for that whole on load issue with backpack :)
03:57.38CIA-1703nymbia * r17599 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc Libs/):
03:57.38CIA-17Cartographer:
03:57.38CIA-17- Added BabbleBoss external and to toc. (it's only used in the koKR
03:57.39CIA-17InstanceNotes, and it's questionable if we want to load it instead of just
03:57.39CIA-17putting the direct translations in the koKR.lua file. still -- added for now to
03:57.39CIA-17fix errors.)
03:58.00AntiarcTekkub: UPDATE_PENDING_MAIL works well for that, actually :)
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03:58.14Tekkub... if the user has mail
03:58.24AntiarcIt was firing on PTR on new chars with no mail
03:58.27AntiarcErr
03:58.28AntiarcOn beta
03:58.34ckknighthey all
03:58.40AntiarcHeya, ckknight
03:58.41Tekkuboh yea, SEMail always ignores that first one
03:59.03AntiarcIt fires after all the BAG_UPDATE and UNIT_INVENTORY_UPDATE is done on login
03:59.03TekkubI forgot it always fires
03:59.04XuerianWelcome back, Ck.
03:59.23AntiarcWhich works very conveniently for skipping the initial login deluge of BAG_UPDATEs.
03:59.28AntiarcHacky as hell though.
03:59.44Tekkubyea I was gonna move to AE's fully init event
04:02.14nymbiackknight:  the koreans got lazy on cartographer's notes translation and loaded babbleboss instead of copy-pasting from babbleboss..  course, they didnt add babbleboss.  so.. we probably wanna remove it, but i added an external for it for now.
04:02.15TullerTekkub:  Here's all the changes I made to SEBags, http://ace.pastey.net/2593
04:02.38TullerI can't actually remember if it works properly right now or not :)
04:03.03Tekkubwell that's helpful :P
04:03.20Tekkubthe only issue with SEBags in trunk is the backpack on login right?
04:04.12TullerThat version was pulled a couple weeks ago from the trunk, I think.  I haven't tested it in TBC or anything
04:04.14ckknightnymbia, I'd prefer using Babble-Boss as a library instead of copy-pasting.
04:04.48TekkubI can only test in TBC :)
04:04.59nymbiackknight: yeah, but in that case, might as well convert the enUS ones as well -- can probably get rid of a large portion of those localization files.
04:05.21CIA-1703damjau * r17600 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/ (FuBar_ItemBonusesFu.toc ItemBonusesFu_Locale_koKR.lua):
04:05.21CIA-17FuBar_ItemBonusesFu -
04:05.21CIA-17Add koKR local
04:05.22ckknightnymbia, I didn't write any of InstanceNotes.
04:06.09nymbiathey just referenced BB in the loc file.. it'd be far better to just drop that and reference BB in the notes themselves.
04:06.21ckknightprobably.
04:06.47nymbiai'll see what i can do about that after i eat
04:08.28ckknightI finally have TBC installed
04:08.33ckknightso I can actually work on it now,.
04:08.44Kirkburn:D
04:08.51nymbiayay! :D
04:09.07ckknightgonna go eat dinner
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04:29.15CIA-17Cartographer_InstanceNotes -
04:29.16CIA-17Add koKR local
04:30.52nymbialol, he updated _InstanceNotes
04:34.29Tekkubckk, does AceLibrary hold onto the activate and deactivate funcs for libs after they've been run?
04:34.40CIA-1703daklu * r17602 10FuBar_DakSmak/ (DakSmak.lua FuBar_DakSmak.toc Readme.txt changelog.txt):
04:34.40CIA-17FuBar_DakSmak
04:34.40CIA-17- Added icon to FuBar menu
04:34.40CIA-17- Added Weapon Skill and Defensive Skill
04:34.40CIA-17- Removed hint comments
04:34.41CIA-17- Added color to the background when targeting units that we cannot calculate values for
04:34.43CIA-17- Added Readme.txt to the package
04:35.55CIA-1703damjau * r17603 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
04:35.56CIA-17Skinner -
04:35.56CIA-17fixed SuperInspect_UI error, add LinkHeaven, ReagentHeaven, etc
04:41.30ckknightTekkub, activate no, deactivate yes.
04:41.57ckknightbasically as it should.
04:42.34Tekkubdeactivate should only be called once per minor vers though
04:42.40Tekkubso why not toss it out?
04:43.13Tekkubalso, is the table holding old versions weak?  If not you should make it that way so minors that don't have a local copy saved somewhere get GC'd
04:46.19Tekkubjust looking at my libs and realizing I should be niling out locals and shit on deactivate to GC out all this unused stuff
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04:46.35Tekkubthere were things lingering after an upgrade
04:47.00Tekkubplus I've not been using deactivate like I should
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04:49.04ckknightTekkub, deactivate is called when the lib is deactivated, so it's held onto until that happens.
04:49.19Tekkubyea, but after that is it tossed out?
04:49.24ckknightyea, of course
04:49.27Tekkubokey
04:49.32Tekkubthat's what I wanted to know
04:49.51Tekkubso then, can the old libs table be made weak so that unused ones get GC'd?
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04:51.41Tekkub<Tekkub> so then, can the old libs table be made weak so that unused ones get GC'd?
04:51.42ckknight_blah
04:51.58ckknightTekkub, old libs table?
04:52.02ckknightthere is no "old libs table"
04:52.15Tekkubwell here's what I'm thinking...
04:52.20Tekkubcurrent design...
04:52.24ckknightAceLibrary uses a replacement algorithm
04:52.35Tekkubsay LibX has 6 upgrades during loadup
04:52.37ckknightso that the old table becomes the new one.
04:52.43Tekkubyes I know
04:52.49ckknightand the new one, then empty, is discarded.
04:52.49Tekkubbut the old table still exists
04:53.03ckknightyes, and it's possible it takes up 32 bytes of memory
04:53.04Tekkubmy point is
04:53.08ckknightif a local reference is kept
04:53.18Tekkubsay only 1 of those old versions was local'd by an addon
04:53.20ckknightbut if it were to be kept in a weak table anyway, it's no different than throwing it away.
04:53.25ckknightTekkub, impossible.
04:53.31Tekkubthe othe tables are not being GC'd, but not used
04:53.38ckknightthat's not how AceLibrary is designed.
04:53.40Tekkubyes it is
04:53.45Tekkubokey..
04:53.54ckknightyou're misspelling okay.
04:54.09Tekkubso if noone holds a local copy of the table for minor v 123 then that table will GC?
04:54.11CIA-1703damjau * r17604 10Cartographer/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
04:54.11CIA-17Cartographer -
04:54.11CIA-17update koKR local
04:54.45ckknightAceLibrary does not work like that. The old library table's contents are filled with the new data
04:54.59ckknightso it's the new table that's registered that is GC'd
04:55.00Tekkubbecause if AceLibrary is holding on to the table the GC won't recover it, even if AL is the only thing holding a reference
04:55.04ckknightand the old library is never GC'd
04:55.25Tekkuboh so it only has one table per major?
04:55.29ckknightyes.
04:55.32Tekkubahso
04:55.34Tekkubokey
04:55.40ckknightyou're still misspelling okay.
04:55.41Tekkubnevermind my ramblings
04:55.46Tekkubguess what
04:55.55TekkubI don't care, okay isn't a word :)
04:55.59TekkubI mean, ain't
04:56.07Tekkubit ain't being a word
04:59.44CIA-1703ckknight * r17605 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2 - updated zhTW (thanks, enixchen)
04:59.51KalamadiI come back and it appears that Tekkub is clubbing himself.
05:00.51CIA-1703ckknight * r17606 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - updated zhTW (thanks, enixchen)
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05:03.17Tekkubnah was just thinking of ways to improve cleanup of old libs
05:03.31Tekkubwas basing my thoughs off Iriel's design
05:03.55CIA-1703damjau * r17607 10Cartographer_InstanceNotes/koKR.lua:
05:03.55CIA-17Cartographer_InstanceNotes -
05:03.55CIA-17update koKR local
05:03.59ckknightmy design is not like Iriel's by far
05:04.21ckknightthough based off of it originally, has been completely revamped
05:05.09TekkubInspired By: Iriel (iriel@vigilance-committee.org)
05:05.09Tekkub<PROTECTED>
05:05.09CIA-1703nargiddley 07TBC * r17608 10MainAssist/MainAssist/MainAssist.lua:
05:05.09CIA-17MainAssist:
05:05.09CIA-17- Updates with party member changes properly
05:05.09CIA-17- Header text changes color when changes are pending from the In-combat lockdown
05:05.10Tekkub:P
05:05.10ckknightyep
05:05.10ckknightsomeone changed all the authors to "Ace Development Team"
05:05.13Tekkublike I said, was ust thinking in his design, didn't know you'd changed it enough that the GC wasn't an issue
05:05.33ckknightokay
05:07.15ckknightthe main change is this:
05:07.20ckknightload lib Monkey
05:07.31ckknightlocal t = Monkey.alpha.bravo -- some table reference
05:07.41ckknightload lib Monkey (later version)
05:07.48ckknightassert(t == Monkey.alpha.bravo)
05:08.02ckknightreferences stay intact
05:11.49ckknighteven crazy recursive ones and everything.
05:14.22ckknightIriel's was great as a proof of concept, but AceLibrary is made for real life coding
05:14.24ckknightbasically
05:22.47CIA-1703ckknight * r17609 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer-AlphaScale - made WorldMapTooltip a higher framelevel
05:22.52kergothyay
05:22.55kergoththat one was annoying
05:22.57kergoth:)
05:23.26ckknightnow switching to Tablet anyway.
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05:32.00CIA-17Skinner -
05:32.00CIA-17fixed LinkHeaven error
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05:40.15CIA-17update koKR
05:46.12kergothwhat's linkheaven?
05:52.30DrDrehttp://warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=31376 thank that guy for noggenfogger nerf :(
05:57.35KalamadiHmm. Blizzard downloader's getting the 2.0 patch
05:59.11Cairennno
05:59.33Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=48524896
06:01.13Kalamadi...that doesn't make me wrong, however.
06:01.31KalamadiJust a little upset that Grid's still busted =(
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06:29.36CIA-1703ckknight * r17612 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua:
06:29.36CIA-17.Tablet-2.0 - fixed issue with relativePoint
06:29.36CIA-17:Open(parent) => :Open(parent, otherParent)
06:29.36CIA-17added :SetTitleColor(r, g, b)
06:33.43sbu'morning
06:33.47ckknighthey sbu
06:34.07CIA-1703ckknight * r17613 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc Modules/Notes.lua): Cartographer-Notes - now uses Tablet instead of WorldMapTooltip.
06:34.23sbuah
06:34.34ckknightah?
06:34.38sbuckknight: tooltip is now > icon?
06:34.54ckknightyes
06:34.58sbunice :)
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06:40.04kergothmeh
06:41.29sbuckknight: tablet external not found :)
06:41.33sbuhi kergoth
06:41.58ckknightsbu, whoops
06:42.02ckknighthey kergoth
06:42.39kergothhmm, need to add support to xloot for the new autoloot stuff (invert the shift behavior)
06:43.10CIA-1703ckknight * r17614 10Cartographer/Libs/: Cartographer - added Tablet-2.0 external
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06:46.33CIA-1703ckknight * r17615 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - close Tablet when opening Dewdrop
06:55.39sbumhpf
06:55.40sbu[2006/11/21 07:55:02-107]: Skinner\AddonFrames.lua:141: Tablet-2.0: You cannot open a tablet with an unregistered parent frame.
06:55.40sbu:)
06:55.52sbu(cartographer tooltip)
06:56.12ckknightI don't use Skinner
06:56.59sbuhehe
06:57.16sbuwell - i didnt say it was your fault ;p
06:57.54sbugonna test my new uber-trinket now :/
07:02.40Bapsckk: are you at all familiar with the internals of grid?  I'm looking to adjust the size of the corner indicators and I don't see any way to do it without overriding GridFrameClass and redefining it.
07:02.47ckknightBaps, haven't used it.
07:03.37ckknightsorry.
07:03.46Bapscorrect me if I'm wrong, but it's possible to inherit a class created with AceOO and override one function?
07:05.14ckknightyes
07:05.51Bapsthe old class is called GridFrameClass and is available via GridFrame.frameClass
07:06.06Bapswhat would the syntax look like?  
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07:06.35ckknightyou need to override the prototype method.
07:06.39Bapsyes.
07:06.42ckknighti.e. instance method
07:07.12ckknightfunction GridFrameClass.prototype:MyMethod() end
07:07.50BapsI spent some time trying to just hook that function.. but couldn't get it to be happy with my attempts
07:08.04Bapskept complaining about the '.'
07:11.22sbuWTB http://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/instances/kharazan/preview/netherspite.jpg - wtf is this :/
07:11.45sbuoh wait
07:11.50sbu-6400 mana is evil
07:11.59CIA-1703ckknight * r17616 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua:
07:12.00CIA-17Cartographer-Notes - now can override the click, menu, and tooltip of a note, if
07:12.00CIA-17you register a database with it. Just provide a handler table with zero or more
07:12.00CIA-17of the methods: :OnNoteClick(zone, id), :OnNoteMenuRequest(zone, id, level [,
07:12.00CIA-17value, level2, level3, level4]), and :OnNoteTooltipRequest(zone, id)
07:12.08ckknightkergoth, ^---
07:12.44ckknightugh, those should be value2-4
07:12.46ckknightI think
07:12.57ckknightah, not sure.
07:13.08Ziconckknight: That's an absolutely brilliant idea!
07:13.15sbuomg
07:13.19ckknightomg?
07:13.24sbu5m CD for aegis of preservation
07:13.37ckknightZicon, hopefully it will come in handy.
07:14.24ZiconI imagine it will...
07:15.03ckknightI made it for kergoth, since he's doing the InstanceNotes stuff.
07:17.22ckknightkergoth, you should know that now the whole title/info/infoR stuff is arbitrary, and since you have :OnNoteTooltipRequest, you can store/show whatever you want.
07:17.22kergothwoot, now to make a little cart module that acts as a bridge to the PT loot data
07:17.35kergothi expected that might happen
07:17.42kergothbrb
07:17.47ckknightk
07:19.15CIA-1703kodewulf * r17617 10Toolbox-1.0/Toolbox-1.0/Toolbox-1.0.lua:
07:19.15CIA-17Toolbox-1.0
07:19.15CIA-17* Added Clone function
07:19.15CIA-17<PROTECTED>
07:19.24kergothheh
07:19.31kergothshould audit that clone function
07:20.30Kodewulfkergoth: yeah... don't know if there's a better way to do it... probably is... :)
07:20.53ckknightKodewulf, handle recursion/metatables?
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07:22.01ckknightetc.
07:22.02ckknighthey Elkano
07:22.07Elkanomorning :)
07:22.18CIA-1703ckknight * r17618 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/InstanceMaps.lua): Cartographer-InstanceMaps - properly handle instance nilling when map closes
07:22.31Kodewulfckknight: it's a simple for k,v in pairs... don't know if it'll handle metatables, i don't really know how they work... :D
07:22.42ckknightKodewulf, so it's a shallow copy?
07:23.04Kodewulfckknight:  aha... that's the word... lol
07:23.43Kodewulfckknight: i'll have a look at metatables and stuff and see if i can flesh it out a bit.. make it more robust...
07:23.58ckknightyou should have multiple kinds of copies
07:24.07ckknightshallow copies, deep copies
07:25.18kergothyea, the fact that it isnt that simple is why theres no copy function in lualib
07:25.35kergothckknight, whered the instance maps come from, atlas?
07:25.46Kodewulfi just needed shallow copies for something in School... but i'll look into the other stuff... not tonight tho... going for a bit of a piss-up later... won't be much use coding later ... LOL
07:25.52ckknightkergoth, Metamap.
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07:27.32kergothah
07:27.44ElkanoKodewulf, maybe I've found the reason for School's stack overflow
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07:31.33Elkanobtw: kemayo, is there a way to resize QuestFu's quest tracker?
07:31.49KodewulfElkano: I think i've fixed it... I just gotta commit the changes.  but what did you find?
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07:34.05Elkanowell, for me it's a loop wrt trainer: UI tries to update so it tries to fetch trainer data. since there is no data for me yet (I haven't been to a trainer) it tries to rebuild trainer data resulting in the trainer event being fired althouh no data is available. this will again trigger an update of the UI and we start over again.
07:34.56ElkanoNot trying to update trainer (LogTrainerInfo iirc) when doing a rebuild should fix it. (most likely you aren't at a trainer at that point anyways so there is nothing to scan)
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07:36.00KodewulfElkano: yep... that's the one i found as well... :) i've fixed that... i'll try to commit in the next hour... :)
07:36.27KodewulfElkano: thx for the help... :)
07:38.42ckknightElkano, right click on the tracker, it should have options
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07:42.03CIA-17Toolbox-1.0
07:42.03CIA-17* Updated Clone function
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07:58.09CIA-1703kergoth * r17621 10XLoot/XLoot.lua:
07:58.09CIA-17XLoot:
07:58.09CIA-17* Fix swift looting in TBC:
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08:02.45CIA-1703kodewulf * r17622 10School/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
08:02.45CIA-17School
08:02.45CIA-17* Updated externals
08:02.45CIA-17<PROTECTED>
08:02.45CIA-17* Added Notes module
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08:05.55nymbiackknight: ping
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08:06.30ckknight_nymbia, counter-ping
08:06.33nymbiaModules\Notes.lua:1146: Tablet-2.0: You cannot open a tablet with an unregistered parent frame.
08:06.48ckknight_you touch yourself at night.
08:07.16nymbiai supposed that could be the problem.
08:07.24ckknight_yep
08:07.32Tekkubhttp://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70056227&trkid=134852
08:07.37ckknight_about to commit something
08:07.38Tekkubgod I thought that was long dead
08:07.43Tekkubs/thought/hoped
08:07.46kergothnymbia, update your tablet
08:07.50kergothi got that too until i did
08:08.10nymbiaah, ok.
08:08.47nymbiakergoth:  i'm collapsing a bunch o stuff out of note's loc files and using babbleboss instead
08:09.00kergothah nice
08:09.05kergothreducing duplication ftw
08:10.01kergothis anyone else in here playing a rogue in beta?
08:10.09kergothit seems like blade twisting never procs
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08:11.56kergothnymbia, you want to add the boss loot cart module or should i?  you've looked at the PT stuff, i haven't gotten that far yet
08:12.06nymbianope.. still getting the error with fully updated tablet. would it make a difference that i'm on vanilla?
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08:12.29nymbiakergoth: i'll take a look if i'm not too worn out after this, got a lot of work to go yet ;)
08:12.34kergoth:)
08:13.02kergothi'm just glad someone finally created a framework for all this, ck did a good job on cart
08:13.06kergothbeen waiting for this for ages
08:13.16kergothanxious to drop metamap and atlas and all that for something sane
08:13.24nymbiayeah.
08:13.34ckknight_kergoth, :-)
08:13.58ckknightI'm updating a bunch of little stuff now
08:15.08Elkanois there an easy way to convert arabian into romanian (?) digits? (eg 4 -> IV)
08:15.15nymbiackknight:  i'm still getting that tablet error on vanilla
08:15.26ckknightI told you I'm updating stuff.
08:15.30ckknightI know you're getting an error.
08:15.32nymbiafair enough :)
08:15.35ckknightyou still masturbate.
08:15.44ckknightas long as we're in agreement, I'll look at it later.
08:16.06nymbiathanks ;)
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08:18.46Thunder_Childyou know taking theese two sentinces together with out any other references maked for interesting speculation
08:18.48Thunder_Child10[11/21/2006 - 00:15] ckknight: 01you still masturbate.
08:18.48Thunder_Child10[11/21/2006 - 00:15] ckknight: 01as long as we're in agreement, I'll look at it later.
08:19.00ckknightlol.
08:19.08nymbiarofl
08:19.43Elkanonew wowace sig? ;)
08:20.20Kodewulflol
08:21.02MoonWolfdamn you Thunder_Child and pasting black text over my black bg.
08:21.09kergothno kidding
08:21.13kergothcut out the color please
08:21.28Noekoehmm 0:15 wth do you life? :)
08:21.43Noekoemust be west sside US?
08:21.58Thunder_Childis this all directed at me?
08:21.59MoonWolfI'm up at 0:15 all the time
08:22.03MoonWolfnothing special.
08:22.09Noekoeuhm
08:22.16Noekoethat was not what i was refering too :)
08:22.19Noekoe.: 4Time - 9:22 AM
08:22.21Noekoe;)
08:22.31kergothyes, its 12:15am on the west coast
08:22.42Elkanoso Noekoe is GMT+1 as I am...
08:22.52Thunder_ChildMoonWolf, what did i do to your black bg?
08:23.00KodewulfGMT+11 here... :)
08:23.04Noekoe:))
08:23.13MoonWolfThe text you pasted was black, you can't SEE it on a black background.
08:23.24Thunder_Childi am so lost
08:23.36Noekoelemme guide you
08:23.53Thunder_Childoh...a glimmer apears
08:24.00Thunder_Childon your irc client?
08:24.04MoonWolfyes
08:24.11Thunder_Childget a better irc client
08:24.16Fiskerbtw ckknight have you experienced problems with the menu in TBC with Cartographer?
08:24.20Noekoewhite bg ftw!~ :)
08:25.00ckknightno, Fisker
08:25.01kergothhm?
08:25.11Fiskerhmm :o
08:25.14kergoththunder is the one who used color, he should disable color in his client
08:25.18Elkanohmm... GetBuffName's rank return value is strange... eg it returns Racial for some spells. What does it return for unranked buffs?
08:25.19kergothmy client is just fine, thanks.
08:25.20MoonWolfmine is set to this by choice Thunder_Child , i like green text on black.
08:25.23kergothif you think otherwise, you can go fuck yourself
08:25.34kergothif you use color in here again, you'll be kicked.
08:25.35Fiskerhere i got like "Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms, Outlands, then a lot of spaces, and then instances"
08:26.03Kodewulfanybody else stuck on 0% in the 1.12 client downloader?
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08:26.20MoonWolfI fully agree with kergoth
08:27.26Fiskerhttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1440/cartographerbo6.jpg
08:27.41Thunder_Childhey...i use a default color scheme
08:27.51Thunder_Childhell i cant even change it, i use trillian for my irc
08:28.25kergothyour color scheme is irrelevent. the fact that trillian sends that color over the line is
08:28.37kergothif you cant figure out how to configure your worthless irc client, that isnt our problem
08:29.00Thunder_Childah, but my problem isnt the fact that your color scheme sucks
08:29.05Thunder_Childit's your problem
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08:29.28MoonWolfooh, short temper today ?
08:30.22Fiskerdoesn't the server support a no-color flag?
08:30.22MoonWolfI should put you in charge of my guild
08:30.36MoonWolfthat should sort them out fast.
08:30.58ckknightif he apologizes to someone, he should be unbanned
08:31.28Kodewulfbit harsh banning some over this isn't it?
08:31.40kergothits a tempban
08:31.50ElkanoFisker, +c should do
08:31.57ckknightkergoth, okay then
08:32.10ckknightKodewulf, tip: don't use color
08:32.13ckknightalso, he was indignant.
08:32.37MoonWolfand using colour is usually frowned upon on irc to begin with.
08:32.45kergoththe fact is, if you cant accept the channel rules, you dont belong in the channel
08:32.47kergothits that simple
08:32.56kergothhopefully this incident will convince him to behave himself in the future
08:32.56Fiskerbut ckknight you have any idea as to why my cartographer looked like that?
08:33.17Kodewulflol... gotta keep the color thing  in mind... i use trillian as well... have to figure out how to disable it.. :)
08:33.41ckknightFisker, that was fixed a while ago
08:33.42kergothi like how he's using trillian, which is a mediocre irc client, and is telling people to get a decent irc client
08:33.45kergoththat was hilarious
08:33.56kergothcourse i'm admittedly easily entertained
08:34.16Kodewulflol... i use it because it's got all the IM client support... IRC support was a bonus... :)
08:34.34kergothright, its functional and integrated, there are reasons to use it
08:34.36ckknightis the localized form of "Azeroth" anywhere?
08:34.45Gngskdoes pinpoint remember nodes now?
08:34.52Gngskthe version I have resets on reload and game restart
08:34.57kergothit does for me
08:35.03kergothi use it in practice on the beta
08:35.03Gngskk
08:35.13Gngskahh
08:35.20Gngskyea, I never liked that
08:35.23MoonWolfyes, so should i.
08:35.36kergothnot sure if it tracks fishing schools or not yet, should test that
08:35.56MoonWolftalk about gathering, there was rumors of a info gatherer that would output into pt2 usuble info ?
08:36.29kergothtek has a data mining thing of somesort on the svn, though i dont recall what it mines or what its called.
08:36.33kergoth:P
08:36.42CIA-1703ckknight * r17623 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/AlphaScale.lua Modules/Notes.lua): Cartographer - added event "Cartographer_ChangeZone" - ("zone", "localizedZone")
08:36.46ckknightthere it is
08:36.47MoonWolfright
08:36.50Fiskerhmm :I
08:36.52ckknightplztest
08:37.00ckknightalso, the Go to menu was changed.
08:37.07MoonWolfheh, my work is mendy, not pt :O
08:37.10MoonWolfevading work ftw.
08:37.12Fiskeri have the newest revision (besides the one you just posted)
08:37.31kergothMoonWolf, would you mind testing current svn mendy on normal wow? it seems to be acting up for me. no erorrs, but the tooltips are hokey
08:37.47MoonWolfcan you give symptoms ?
08:37.58kergothyeah, the tooltip has no contents other than the mendy info
08:38.00kergothno item info at all
08:38.02kergothits amusing
08:38.14MoonWolfah
08:38.23kergothbut it seems to be fine on the beta
08:38.32kergothperhaps a getiteminfo call thing? i know not
08:38.34MoonWolfthat was because of tekkub try to make it both regular and ptr
08:38.52MoonWolfi reverted the changes, simply use the branch for ptr and beta.
08:39.01MoonWolfi had no clue what caused it.
08:40.02MoonWolfSome vague problem with hooks not calling the original function
08:40.14MoonWolfwhen the call was clearly there, completly unchanged.
08:42.11kergothehm, in the version i'm looking at here, old trunk
08:42.24kergothSetItemREf hook didnt call the originall, sine you dont do that in a securehook
08:42.30kergothit shouldve called the original if not lua51 then
08:42.39kergoththat would explain it
08:43.40MoonWolfright
08:43.55MoonWolfdid not know about that.
08:43.58CIA-1703greywind 07TBC * r17624 10Mendeleev/ (. Mendeleev.lua Mendeleev.toc libs/):
08:43.58CIA-17Mendeleev:
08:43.58CIA-17- external updates
08:43.58CIA-17- other small updates ported from trunk
08:44.48Fiskeri like the new goto button :P
08:44.59ckknight:-)
08:45.15ckknightnow working on getting rid of blizzard's crappy dropdowns
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08:46.26MoonWolfexcept for the fact that they are oldfashioned dropdowns, what is wrong with them ?
08:46.45ckknightnothing, really.
08:46.55ckknightI just like my tiered ones better.
08:47.00Fiskerbtw tablet isn't in the toc
08:47.07ckknightoh, whoops
08:47.27kergothhm
08:47.45CIA-1703tardmrr 07TBC * r17625 10Ace2/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceAddon will recover gracefully from an error in an addon's OnEnable.
08:48.11Tembah, meant to commit to trunk
08:48.42kergothsweet
08:48.53kergothno more having one addon blow everyone up from a simple syntax error
08:48.54CIA-1703tardmrr * r17626 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceAddon will recover gracefully from an error in an addon's OnEnable.
08:49.02kergoth~hug Tem
08:49.03purlACTION sneaks up on Tem and suddenly hugs Tem tightly
08:49.04ckknightTem, how'd you do it?
08:49.07Temmagic
08:49.12Temgeterrorhandler
08:49.14ckknightI'd like to know how.
08:49.18ckknighthrm...
08:49.25ckknightcool!
08:49.34Temoh hrm
08:49.37ckknightyou deserve 7 air miles.
08:49.42TemOnInit might need the same treatment
08:50.07ckknightI'd say basically every On* dealy.
08:50.15ckknightprolly
08:50.36TemI did it for OnEmbedEnable
08:50.53Temwhat else is there?
08:52.25ckknightin AceAddon, nothing
08:52.29ckknightI don't think
08:52.36ckknightbut other mixins may want the same treatment
08:52.46ckknightspecifically OnEnable and OnModuleCore
08:52.47ckknightmaybe.
08:53.06Temhrm
08:53.09TemI don't like this
08:53.17Temtoo much code repetition
08:53.21ckknighthrm.
08:53.26TemI'm writing the same 4 lines everywhere
08:53.45ckknightmake a local function at the top?
08:53.51Temexactly what I'm thinking
08:54.58Fiskerlol
08:55.04Fiskershadowmoon valley is populated
08:56.01kergothnymbia, for loot we'll need 1) periodiclocale lib, 2) a PT 2.2 instances lib, cleaned up, using the english translations as the set names instead of the lowecase concatenated crap
08:56.02Temoh?
08:56.09kergothheh
08:56.21Temkergoth, well that and PT doesn't have all the loot info
08:56.36nymbiaTem: not yet ;)
08:56.41kergothright, but we can flesh that out
08:56.46kergothlets make things not suck first
08:56.56TekkubPT's loot tables are gonna be reamade I think
08:56.56Temyou guys working on the mining script?
08:56.59nymbiatekkub wrote a dataminer to yoink all the drops and stuff offa alla
08:57.09Tekkubit's a tiny tweak to the dataminer to make it not condense the names
08:57.42CIA-1703ckknight * r17627 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua:
08:57.42CIA-17Cartographer - Go to button now says "Azeroth" or "Cosmic map", depending.
08:57.42CIA-17Blizzard's dropdowns no longer show.
08:57.42CIA-17Go to and Cartographer buttons moved around
08:57.58kergothi was thinking about a simple drop rate addon that tracks what you loot, and uses acecomm to make the loot table info available to others with the addon, and adds it all to your tooltips (or can export to PT's format), to just leave running
08:58.18nymbiathat'd turn into a huge database fast
08:58.24ckknightthat would.
08:58.37kergoththis is true
08:59.00kergothbut look at how popular mobinfo2 is, people like it.  at least itd stick to one piece of info
09:00.19CIA-1703ckknight * r17628 10Cartographer/Modules/ (InstanceMaps.lua InstanceNotes/notes.lua): Cartographer-InstanceMaps/InstanceNotes - Temple of Ahn'Qiraj properly changed to Ahn'Qiraj
09:00.41kergothat least now that instancenotes is built in, the db wont get out of sync anymore :P
09:00.41ckknightalright, I'm satisfied temporarily.
09:00.47kergoth:)
09:00.57nymbiaodang, that's gonna hit my with a conflict
09:01.01nymbias/my/me/
09:01.42ckknightkergoth, you know, you could make it so that each instance's notes are each in a function, and then use a metatable to automatically generate the tables
09:01.44ckknightand such.
09:01.54MoonWolfTekkub, don't you dare change the loot table, i spend a week changing mendy's way of handling them
09:02.06Tekkublol
09:02.13Tekkubit won't be bad
09:02.25Tekkubif they change it they'll do the locale at the same time
09:02.35Tekkubor make it work directly with babbleboss
09:02.41Tekkuband it'll be in PT-2.0
09:02.44Tekkubnot 1.0
09:03.19kergothckknight, i tried that but the numbers didnt seem to show a huge benefit.  i'll play around with it again in the future at some point
09:04.10kergothwas surprising, honestly, since closures often compress tables well into lua bytecode
09:04.17kergothwill have to sanity check my test environment
09:04.57Elkanowhat was the function to convert string to int?
09:05.15kergothtonumber()
09:05.16kergoth:P
09:05.46Elkanothx :)
09:06.36MoonWolfwho could have guessed.
09:08.05CIA-1703tardmrr * r17629 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceAddon will now also recover gracefully from an error in an addon's OnInitialize.
09:08.19CIA-1703tardmrr 07TBC * r17630 10Ace2/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceAddon will now also recover gracefully from an error in an addon's OnInitialize.
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09:09.53[Ammo]morning
09:10.26nymbiahi [Ammo]
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09:14.19kergothhmm
09:14.22kergothhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3500 looks interesting
09:14.26kergothanyone tried that?
09:14.27CIA-1703elkano 07ebb1_TBC * r17631 10ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar.lua:
09:14.27CIA-17ElkBuffBar
09:14.27CIA-17- fixed buff ids now starting at 1 instead of 0
09:14.27CIA-17- will now also show the buffs rank as roman number
09:14.37kergothhehe, thanks elkano
09:14.42kergoththat buff id thing was causing the hang on login
09:14.47kergothsilly stealth changes
09:14.51kergoth~lart blizz
09:16.24Elkanokergoth, that one was already fixed... the hang was caused by the function now returning 0 instead of negative if there is no buff on that id
09:16.41CIA-1703ckknight * r17632 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - Ironforge and Stormwind for deDE, but expansion-only, as it seems to have changed.
09:17.07kergothyeah, i know
09:17.14CIA-1703ckknight * r17633 10Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer - added Tablet to the toc.
09:17.17kergothbreaking api compatibility for no good reason is bad
09:18.09CIA-1703sayclub * r17634 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Modules/AlphaScale.lua): Cartographer - Update locals koKR
09:22.03Elkanocool, only 160 startup errors on vanila :/
09:22.25ckknightTem, um, you know you basically broke Ace2 for vanilla wowers.
09:22.37ckknightyour safecall function doesn't work for them.
09:22.41Temoh damnit
09:22.44ckknightI'll fix it.
09:22.49ckknightdon't worry about it ;-)
09:22.58Temfucking live wow
09:23.02Temit needs to die
09:23.16Temthankfully it's an easy change
09:23.26ckknightyea
09:24.05CIA-1703ckknight * r17635 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0 - fixed safecall to not use ...
09:24.19Elkano\o/
09:27.01ckknighthrm, I think I should add in a check to trunk Ace2 that if it's in vanilla WoW to make sure not to accidentally upgrade, even if it has a higher minor version
09:28.29nymbiaissues?
09:28.47CIA-1703tardmrr * r17636 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceDB-2.0 will recover gracefully from errors in On* methods.
09:29.05pastamancer*hugs* Tem
09:29.25Temand I even made it not break normal wow
09:29.32Tem*eyeroll*
09:29.46kergothso looking forward to 1.12 dying
09:29.49Temsrsly, why do people still play normal wow?
09:29.54kergothmaintaining multiple branches is a royal pain in the ass
09:30.01Moonwolfindeed
09:30.01Temkergoth, /agree
09:30.02ckknightTem, I just don't know
09:30.04ckknightkergoth, totally.
09:30.18Moonwolfid take everybody's ui breaking over maintaining 2 or sometimes even three branche.
09:30.21Moonwolfbranches*
09:30.26kergothmethinks its a near exponential increase in required manpower vs # of branches
09:30.52Moonwolfnot to mention major headaches and miscommunication.
09:31.06sbuTem: ERRRR
09:31.10Tekkubyea I'm almost to the point of just pusing 2.0 changes to trunk
09:31.12sbubecause i dont have TBC key :/
09:31.20Temsucks to be you
09:31.22Tekkuband telling beta users to revert to the older :)
09:31.35CIA-1703tardmrr 07TBC * r17637 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceDB-2.0 will recover gracefully from errors in On* methods.
09:31.59sbuTem: thx :p
09:32.04ckknightsbu, you could play on PTR
09:32.27sbuckknight: i do - sometimes ;p
09:32.36CIA-1703ckknight * r17638 10Ace2/ (15 files in 15 dirs): Ace2 - added check to each Ace2 library so that if in a lua 5.1 environment, not to accidentally upgrade, even if the minor version is higher. (this will hopefully alleviate some issues with embedding)
09:32.43Tekkubmuahahaha!  Drive by Blu Mar Ten
09:32.58TekkubI love good remixes of kinda crappy old songs
09:34.04nevcairielCan i somehow detect if a button click came from real mouse input or shift-number if i use SetBindingClick ? :o
09:34.25ckknightnope.
09:34.28Temckknight, won't that prevent ANY upgrades and not just the ones that are attempting to upgrade to a TBC version of Ace2?
09:34.50ElkanoTem, you DID break AceDB for vanila...
09:34.53ckknightTem, the TBC versions of Ace2 don't have the check, so they'll upgrade if the minor version is greater.
09:34.59FrittiI'm all for pushing 2.0 stuff to trunk FWIW, people can just use the last published version for 1.12
09:35.13sbuFritti: ack!
09:35.17Frittiisn't svn supposed to be beta anyway?
09:35.35Temckknight, yes but vanilla version upgrade to another vanilla version upgrade
09:35.37ckknightthe non-TBC versions of Ace2 will upgrade normally if they're in a lua50 environment. if they're in a lua51 environment, they'll register themselves normally, but will not upgrade.
09:35.45Temoh duh
09:36.02TemI was looking at it backwards
09:36.15Temaparently all my brain power went away after driving to wendy's
09:36.22CIA-1703cwdg * r17639 10Fizzle/FizzleLocale-enUS.lua: Fizzle:Fix line:14 of enUS.lua
09:36.38ckknightthis is just to alleviate issues with the trunk being 1 minor version greater than TBC, and having it override the TBC mindlessly
09:36.44Temyeah
09:36.54TemElkano, did I?  don't tell me a put the vanilla version of safecall in branches instead of trunk
09:37.06Tems/me a/me I/
09:37.17CIA-1703chrisp * r17640 10QuestAnnouncer/ (CoreFu.lua QuestAnnouncer.toc): QuestAnnouncer: fubar plugin now remembers settings
09:37.23ckknightTem, looks fine to me.
09:37.24sbuFritti: its another 2-3 weeks till 2.0
09:37.37sbuso i see no point in keeping 1.12 stuff in trunk
09:37.37Frittisbu: so don't update your mods from svn in that time?
09:37.38TemElkano, then what broke?
09:37.46Frittiah, indeed, I agree
09:37.48Temit's entirely possible I screwed up some syntax or something
09:37.52Frittithought you were going to argue the other way :)
09:38.06ckknightI'd say we should wait for a week before 2.0 rollout before we break trunk.
09:38.12ckknightat least.
09:38.20TemI don't really care
09:38.28TemI don't plan to play live again
09:38.30ckknightfrankly it's up to the authors to me.
09:38.39ckknightme either, tem
09:38.56kergothi hop onto live for raids, since my guild needs me to attend
09:38.57kergoththats about it
09:39.21nymbiai've been avoiding working in multiple branches by just making things dual compatible.. but for a number of things, that's just not possible.
09:39.46ckknightfor Ace2 it was impossible
09:39.59ckknightand I'm just waiting for 2.0 to upgrade my other libs properly
09:40.09ckknightthey use the a1-a20 hack and such.
09:40.26TemI hate that one
09:40.28TemI hate it so much
09:40.34ckknightsame
09:41.00Elkanolet me do a complete relog; I don't understand why it's buging either :/
09:41.25CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17641 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (4 files):
09:41.25CIA-17Bartender3:
09:41.25CIA-17- You can enable the remaining 5 bars now, and disable the old if you want to
09:41.25CIA-17- Options for the Bagbar fixed, you can show the keyring again :)
09:41.25CIA-17- Shift-Number button pickup bug removed, although Shift-Click button pickup had to be removed as well.
09:42.06ckknighthere's what I want from lua (that's not in lua51): a proper tuple type that I can write to. += and -=. // operator (truncating division). and __changeindex (like __newindex, but not new)
09:42.32MikmaYAY for the last commit
09:42.38Mikmai hate shift+click = pickup
09:42.59nevcairielwhy did you have it in BT2 ?
09:42.59nevcairiel:)
09:43.00ckknightoh, and be able to overwrite __len for tables. we should have a rawgetn or something.
09:43.02pastamancermmm, tuples
09:43.13kergothgod yes, __len being useless on tables is idiotic
09:43.34ElkanoTem: AceDB-2.0.lua: 25:')' expected near ','
09:43.42Mikmanevcairiel: because of pagemaster
09:44.06Mikmashift changed bar1 and while pressing mouse on the skill = pickup
09:44.12nevcairielhaha
09:44.20ckknightElkano, on it.
09:44.22sbumhh lets see if my pickup bug is gone ;p
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09:44.52nevcairielshould be sbu
09:44.54TemElkano, mm got it
09:45.02Temor ckk can do it
09:45.04Temwhatever
09:45.10Elkanowhat is it? can't see it
09:45.14CIA-1703ckknight * r17642 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - fixed line 25
09:45.15Mikmanevcairiel: /bar bar2 enabled -doesn't work at all
09:45.17TemI forgot 'function'
09:45.24Elkanooh, right ^^'
09:45.27Mikmanevcairiel: i keep getting "on" "on" "on"
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09:45.39nevcairielit worked for me
09:45.40nevcairielhrm
09:45.53TemI think once I finish these changes in AceModuleCore, that will be it for things that need safecall
09:46.00Tekkubhttp://fchan.hentaiplanet.net/src/m_1163750471965_IDuelJ00%5b1%5d.jpg
09:46.02TekkubNSFW
09:46.09Tekkub... and I'm at work
09:46.33Moonwolfhehe
09:46.58Moonwolfsends to his friends*
09:47.02ckknightTekkub, why's he wearing a condom?
09:47.14nevcairielMikma: oh the option is bugged, but the toggle works
09:47.23Tekkubuhm, he likes to use protection when he duels?
09:47.44Mikmanevcairiel: yeah well i'll retext
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09:48.05ElkanoTem, could it be you forgot it in AceAddon as well?
09:48.16Temmmmmmmaybe
09:48.21TemI probably copy/pasted
09:48.26sbumhh gonna try minnastats
09:48.36Temer no
09:48.41TemI actually tested AceAddon
09:48.53Temoh, that was before I used safecall though
09:49.21Elkanoline 23 ^^
09:50.43CIA-1703tardmrr 07TBC * r17643 10Ace2/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceAddon - fixed typo on line 22
09:50.55Silviu-Tem TBC ? ;)
09:51.07kergothckknight, fyi
09:51.14kergothblizzard snuck something into 5.1 that i didnt expect to see
09:51.17kergothwe have newproxy()
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09:51.27ckknightkergoth, what'll that allow?
09:51.28kergothwe can generate userdata, and have a full fledged proxy object with __len
09:51.42ckknighthrm
09:52.02ckknightwhat'll having userdata accomplish?
09:52.33Mikmanevcairiel: microbar default location is kinda borked, it goes over bags
09:52.36kergothhttp://ace.pastey.net/2603 was the first time i started playing with it
09:54.30Mikmaanyone has a warrior in TBC?
09:54.36Mikmaneeds to have atleast 2 stances
09:55.18CIA-1703tardmrr * r17644 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceAddon - fixed typo on line 23.
09:55.25TemElkano, ^^
09:55.31Silviu-ty Tem :)
09:55.43Elkanolol, was just in the progress of commiting myself ^^
09:55.55nevcairielMikma: screw default positions :)
09:56.09TemElkano, I don't think you can
09:56.21FrittiMikma: I leveled one to 10, took me way too long :)
09:56.34pastamancerkergoth: hmm, so it creates a unique userdata object kinda like gensym() in perl?
09:56.40Mikmanevcairiel: no, they need to be positioned :P but i can play with them later today so don't mind about them
09:56.41kergothcourse i dont remember why i did the proxies[t] or t thing in the interators just now, but hey..
09:56.59MikmaFritti: well i just need someone to test stances with Bartender3 + Dreamlayout
09:57.12TemMikma, what about a druid?
09:57.15Mikmai want to know does the buttons get shaded properly
09:57.18MikmaTem: works :)
09:57.19CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17645 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua Core.lua Options.lua):
09:57.19CIA-17Bartender3:
09:57.19CIA-17- Added an option to disable the built-in cooldown count
09:57.19CIA-17- Fixed a bug in the options for enabling the bars
09:57.40Mikmaand, Dreamlayout has a support for buffs now too so don't wonder about it
09:57.52Mikmai will make it later to use bartender3's slashcommands to config
09:58.01Mikmabut now it's 'mod the .lua and /rl'
09:58.14FrittiMikma: I think I can do that tomorrow -- beta EU servers don't have maint tomorrow right?
09:58.17Mikmaoh yeah, and i need people to test the buff-frames too
09:58.18CIA-1703nymbia * r17646 10Cartographer/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
09:58.18CIA-17Cartographer:
09:58.18CIA-17- Implemented BabbleBoss in instance notes.
09:58.24MikmaFritti: beta is up atm
09:58.29FrittiI'm at work atm :-)
09:58.40nevcairielyeah no maint on beta tomorrow
09:58.46nevcairielit was yesterday
09:59.01Frittik cool
09:59.01Mikmai need someone to either duel me and poison / something mee os i can see that the debuff-backgrounds get properly colored
09:59.15Frittibug me tomorrow if you still need me
09:59.24Mikmas/mee os/me so/
09:59.25ckknightnymbia, for the instance notes, I noticed a whole bunch of L["Level 55 Elite Humanoid"] why not do string.format(L["Level %s Elite Humanoid"], 55) ?
10:00.10Mikmathe Buffalo_Dreamlayout on forums colors everything red
10:00.27CIA-1703tardmrr * r17648 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceModuleCore will recover gracefully from errors in On* methods.
10:00.35Mikmamy code should check the bordercolor of debuff and color the background with the same color
10:00.42CIA-1703tardmrr 07TBC * r17649 10Ace2/Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceModuleCore will recover gracefully from errors in On* methods.
10:00.43nymbiackknight:  there's also a number of bosses that currently have strings that're barely different from what's in Babble.  and a bunch of "this is used in ____ quest"
10:00.51ckknighthrm
10:01.10nymbialong story short, it still needs some polish, but i wanted to get that batch of things done and commited first.
10:01.16Mikmaok, back to school now
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10:01.52Temoh, actually
10:01.58TemAceEvent will benefit from this as well
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10:05.31sbugnnnnnnnnnnl
10:05.42nevcairielstupid #132 bug when logging out
10:05.44sbunevcairiel: same problem with pickup on mouse-movement + keypress :/
10:05.58nevcairielits not my fault then anymore :P
10:06.04Temhmm
10:06.06sbuso its mikma? :p
10:06.15nevcairielsome other addon probably
10:06.26CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17650 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Options.lua: Bartender3: changing cooldown settings work in combat as well now.
10:06.26sbumh
10:06.46nevcairielBT3 does only pickup the action if you directly drag it out
10:07.36nevcairieland since i cannot reproduce your behaviour..
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10:09.10nevcairieltry disabling everything else and see if it still happens
10:09.27kergothah, thats why did the iterators that way, because it sped up common iteration, it bypassed the proxy __index and __newindex.  but thats awfully silly, since its most likely that the proxy exists to do some operation in __index and __newindex, like data capturing that you wouldnt want to bypass
10:12.30Temholy balls
10:12.32Temit's 4am
10:12.35sbunevcairiel: it does :/
10:12.41kergothhttp://ace.pastey.net/2604 thats better
10:12.46TemI was gonna go to bed just after one...
10:12.57CIA-1703rabbit * r17651 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Comm: Slight optimization in SendSync.
10:16.35nevcairielsbu: turn on the actionbar lock then
10:16.41nevcairielat least a workaround :)
10:16.41CIA-1703tardmrr 07TBC * r17652 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceDB - Fixed typo on line 22.
10:17.04sbunevcairiel: bt3 lock?
10:17.06sbumhno
10:17.24nevcairielno in interface options
10:17.26nevcairielthe default lock
10:17.29sbuah
10:17.38nevcairieli need to add my own lock to that
10:17.41nevcairielsomeday.
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10:18.09sbumhhh yep works (well - not picking up them anymore) - but cant cast while moving mouse ;o
10:18.20nevcairielget a working mouse.
10:18.28sbu*sigh* :p
10:18.35sbuno problem in 1.12
10:19.02nevcairielive been playing with BT3 for two days now, healing in instances and such, moving mouse alot and pressing keys, and never encounterd anything like that
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10:29.25CIA-1703cwdg * r17653 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome:fix some chinese word of .lua
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10:36.41CIA-1703rabbit * r17654 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Fire BigWigs_ModuleLoaded(name, module) when a module is initialized.
10:40.08Silviu-hmm after the last Acemodulecore, acedb upodates i get like 100/100 errors and nothing works :))
10:40.13Silviu--o
10:40.46vhaarrUpdate AceDB again.
10:40.49CIA-1703rabbit * r17655 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: Add event logging for CoreEnabled, CoreDisabled, ModuleLoaded and ModulePackLoaded.
10:41.12Silviu-Did
10:41.39Silviu-Maybe svn.wowace.com didin`t sync corectly with dev.wowace ?
10:42.20Silviu-Hmm i try svn2.wowace
10:45.16Silviu-All erros are like this
10:45.16Silviu-[2006/11/21 12:38:47-2-x1]: oRA2\Core.lua:167: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library "AceModuleCore-2.0" does not exist.
10:45.16Silviu-<in C code>: in function `error'
10:45.17Silviu-AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:118: in function <...\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:47>
10:45.17Silviu-AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:169: in function `pcall'
10:45.20Silviu-AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:630: in function `new'
10:45.21Silviu-oRA2\Core.lua:167: in main chunk
10:45.32TemSilviu-, live or beta?
10:45.35Silviu-Live
10:45.59Silviu-Tryed with svn2 same thing nothing to update
10:45.59Temk
10:46.02Temlemme check
10:46.05Silviu-ky
10:46.07Silviu-Oky*
10:46.13uszSilviu-, look like missing libs in zip files, nothing more
10:46.20Tekcubanyone got a jabber/yahoo transport/server that actually works?
10:46.25uszguess some externals didnt zip properly again
10:46.37Silviu-usz, i`m not using WAU
10:46.41Silviu-Using tortoise
10:46.45TekcubI have a few oldfart bears I'd still like to IM but they're not leaving yahoo IM
10:46.45Silviu-And updated all addons
10:46.50Tekcubthey like the camz :P
10:47.06Silviu-So actually all libs are same version
10:47.12CIA-1703tardmrr * r17656 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: Ace2 - AceModuleCore - Fixed typo on line 23.
10:47.29Silviu-Thank u i try
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10:50.52Silviu-Tem all works now no errors, thank u again :>
10:51.06Temsorry for the hassel
10:51.23Temit's like 5 am and maintaining two copies of the same thing is the suck
10:51.38nymbiaget some sleep!
10:51.38nevcairielonly a few more weeks
10:51.51Silviu-Yes good ideea, gogog :)
10:52.27nevcairiel5 am .. and i leave for university .. boo .. well good that its 12pm here now :)
10:53.00Silviu-1 pm here
10:53.00Silviu-:>
10:53.04nevcairielanyway, laters
10:53.14nevcairielneed to "learn" some stuff :o
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11:08.44CIA-1703nymbia * r17659 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua:
11:08.44CIA-17MobMitigation:
11:08.44CIA-17- Fixed typo
11:17.00CIA-1703nymbia * r17660 10MobMitigation/MobMitigation.lua:
11:17.01CIA-17MobMitigation:
11:17.03CIA-17- Fixed decimal detail for percentage display of armor.
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11:24.24CIA-1703rabbit * r17661 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: Add logging for BigWigs_ModuleToggle and save the chat frame setting.
11:25.04CIA-1703rabbit * r17662 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Fix ToggleModuleActive hook.
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11:47.18XLVIITim - says:
11:47.18XLVIII need a name for my Female Orc Hunter
11:47.18XLVIITim - says:
11:47.18XLVIIShe's an ugly whore.
11:48.19CIA-1703rabbit * r17665 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.lua:
11:48.19CIA-17BigWigs_NefCount:
11:48.19CIA-17<PROTECTED>
11:48.30KirkburnSimon says: Time for lectures
11:50.11Fisker:o
11:50.15Fiskerprogramming is so much fun!
11:50.16Fisker:O
11:53.50MoonwolfFisker, :O
11:54.12FiskerDoing some c# h4x0ring :P
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12:14.59hasteI'm doing some Lua h4x0ring
12:15.06hasteand I burned my pizza 'cause of it :(
12:15.18[Ammo]haha
12:15.20[Ammo]pwned
12:15.22Funkeh`hey all
12:15.34hasteI'm improving my RSS script!
12:15.48Moonwolfit runs on lua ?
12:16.35hasteMoonwolf: http://hastey.pastey.net/2605-3mti
12:17.11hasteoh, it doesn't work with shinsen's RSS yet, as they include file extension and CRC in the RSS title
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12:19.26hasteMoonwolf: http://hastey.pastey.net/2605-3mti << output
12:19.52Moonwolfkeep getting pastey timeouts.
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12:22.20hasteMoonwolf: http://www.fuxsake.net/Lua/RSS/
12:22.38Moonwolfah
12:23.14Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5834-1-zbar.html
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12:29.12Tekcubquestion
12:29.30Tekcubwhat all things are people waiting for FullyInitialized to test?
12:29.38Tekcubbags, channels joined, what else?
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12:36.06CIA-1703fenlis * r17666 10QuestAnnouncer/ (4 files):
12:36.06CIA-17QuestAnnouncer : Fix typo locals
12:36.06CIA-17<PROTECTED>
12:36.10[Ammo]if you're in a raid then that's the time you knwow for sure as well tek
12:45.46Tekcubuhm.... hrm...
12:45.51phyberhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNKyoRudOQ
12:45.55Tekcubokey so I need to test raid too
12:45.58Tekcubwhat else?
12:46.00phyberPicard singing the alphabet -_-
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12:55.11Funkeh`how does one get teksupport to work? =P
12:55.33Tekcubmajicks
12:57.01Funkeh`can i borrow some? ;p
13:04.30Tekcubammooo
13:04.35[Ammo]what?
13:04.43Tekcubyou tested in TBC if raid login shit is better?
13:04.48[Ammo]no
13:05.04Tekcubcause it looks like bag shit is available on PL/PEW
13:05.13[Ammo]hmm
13:05.37TekcubGetNumRaidWhater says 0 tho
13:05.40Tekcubeven if you are
13:05.45Tekcubso it must init after
13:06.29Tekcubwhat event should I test that against for init, RRU?
13:06.53[Ammo]what are you trying to do?
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13:08.06Tekcubfind out what we need FullyInit for
13:08.15Tekcuband get it fixed
13:08.31TekcubI used to need it for bag scanning, but that seems no more
13:08.37[Ammo]hmm
13:08.47Tekcubso what else?
13:08.50[Ammo]I use it for checking if I'm in a raid or not
13:08.52[Ammo]that's all
13:09.02[Ammo]and you've joined all channels at that point
13:09.04Tekcubokey
13:09.26Tekcubdo channels matter to anyone though?
13:09.52[Ammo]they do for addons that require people to be in channels
13:10.17Tekcubjust doing a search against trunk to see what all uses that event :)
13:10.29[Ammo]good idea :)
13:10.37[Ammo]I use it in BigWigs and oRA2 for initializing stuff
13:10.38Tekcubmy bag issue is fixed in TBC, but I don't know if others are
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13:18.00Tekcubhrm... I like this song... and that I'm playing it at work
13:18.38Tekcubo/~ We are getting fuckin high from the pussy in the sky, in the sky, in the sky, fuckin high, fuckin high o/~
13:18.42CIA-1703cwdg * r17667 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ (ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc):
13:18.42CIA-17ClosetGnome_OhNoes:add add Chinese localization to .lua.
13:18.42CIA-17fix the .toc
13:20.02Tekcuboh, I guess the lyrics are..
13:20.03TekcubYes we're getting fucking high
13:20.03TekcubStoned like Lucy in the sky
13:20.07Tekcubbah
13:20.12CIA-1703jerry * r17668 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu : fix memory leak
13:21.05MoonwolfTekcub, shouldn't you be like, working ?
13:21.16TekcubI am
13:21.18CIA-1703jerry 07jerry * r17669 10lern2count/lern2count/Core.lua: lern2count (jerry's branch) : removed debug code
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13:21.32TekcubI don't have to do anything like 90% of the time
13:23.39abbat_w=)
13:28.38FiskerIs there something special about a new riposte macro for rogues in TBC?
13:28.38Fiskeror can i just do /cast sinister strike /cast riposte?
13:28.38[Ammo]don't you need castsequence/
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13:29.16CIA-17T_RPP:
13:29.16CIA-17- Changes to showing values by using tonumber()
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13:30.20Fiskeri dunno :)
13:30.26Fiskeri know nothing of the new macro system
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13:31.50JoshBorkeFisker: it'll always tryt o cast sinister strike first, then riposte if it can't cast sinister strike
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13:36.38JensMy irssi needs more color support :/
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13:39.02abbat_w---
13:39.03abbat_wI'd love a built-in feature to create simplistic fubar "plugins". With two features of allowing the user to select an icon (from in-game icons), then link that icon to a /slash command.
13:39.04abbat_w---
13:39.11abbat_wthis is basic fubar feature?
13:40.39CIA-1703rabbit * r17675 10BigWigs/Plugins/Version.lua: BigWigs: VersionQuery: Guard against nil indexing.
13:41.45JensI have a great new mod idea...
13:41.53JensNeed to research that when I get home.
13:41.59CIA-1703rabbit * r17676 10BigWigs/Plugins/Version.lua: BigWigs: VersionQuery: If the zone is invalid, error and return.
13:43.06JensIf you are in an instance. If master looter is enabled. If someone other than ML recieved an item of epic quality or above: Filter all "grats" type messaged for 30 secs.
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13:44.21JensWe've done 40 man raids for how long now... recieving a purple item is not that big of a deal any more, yet I get >40 gratz messages in guild/raid chat.
13:44.33JensIt's the little things in life that cause me to lose sleep at night.
13:44.56cryogenor you could just.. get over it. :)
13:45.08JensBut that's not fun.
13:45.29Jens./dev/null has made my life much more pleasant for example.
13:45.53JensWhich reminds me I have a few ideas still for that I have to code.
13:46.08vhaarrI remember puking when learning about the "AutoGrats" addon or whatever it's called.
13:46.10JensGrats ignore would fit well into that actually.
13:46.23JensYes, I threw up in my mouth when I saw that.
13:46.26vhaarrThat, whenever someone says "ding" in guild chat, it automatically responds "Grats!".
13:46.37vhaarrWhat the fuck is the point, I ask.
13:47.09JensDinging annoys me.
13:47.18vhaarrIndeed.
13:47.24vhaarrIf I cared, I would monitor your level.
13:47.41JensEspecially for level 20 chars or lower. The only time I will ever accept a ding is when you hit 60.
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13:47.59Tain"My brain is paged out to my liver."
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13:48.06cryogenah what fine specimins of social creatures you are
13:48.20vhaarrWe're not social, we're developers.
13:48.31TainAnd "ding" is, and always was, a stupid term to use.  Especially in WoW where there is no, "ding."
13:48.32cryogenyou clearly have no concept of sacrcasm, either
13:48.41cryogensarcasm, too
13:48.53NeeblerIt started in EQ when gaining a level was an accomplishment and took a long time
13:49.55JensMy sister and I have this stupid "joke" where we now SMS "ding" to each other on our birthdays :P
13:50.11JensShe is as filled with hate as me.
13:50.15cryogenif social interaction bothers you so much you should /gquit at your earliest convienence
13:50.18cryogenor just not play a mmorpg at all
13:50.22JensI dragged her into WoW and made her bitter.
13:50.25TainI know where it started, a lot of insidious terms came from EQ and cause me pain to read every day.
13:50.49JensSocial interaction doesn't bother me. Social interaction with morons does. So I do what I can to shield myself from them.
13:51.01cryogenthe brain's ignore function is also somewhat useful
13:51.16JensYea, but LUA helps my brain.
13:51.27TainSince technology isn't sufficiently advanced to allow for a Donkey Punch via TCP/IP, we must endure.
13:51.45cryogenor perhaps you're just in the wrong guild, or the wrong game
13:51.53cryogenyou should seek like minded people instead of puirples :)
13:52.06JensMorons will not ruin a game I enjoy.
13:52.21cryogenbut you are banding yourself together with morons
13:52.23cryogenby choice
13:52.27TainThe "wrong guild" suggestion is always a foolish one.
13:52.35cryogennot really
13:52.40cryogenyou chose to coexist with them
13:52.45cryogenits not forced on you
13:52.51TainIt is implying that there is a perfect guild out there for everyone.
13:53.01JensIn big guilds, there will always be morons, unless you're in a guild with 39 of your close personal friends or something.
13:53.03cryogenwell you are already 3 complaining about it
13:53.06TainI choose to coexist with people and I choose to bitch about them.
13:53.20cryogenand you are also implying that 90% of your guild exhibits this behaviour
13:53.24cryogenotherwise it wouldnt bother you so much ;)
13:53.39TainThat's a clear, "Pulled out of my ass" number.
13:53.54TainIt only takes one person to be a sufficient jerk, not 90%.
13:53.56JensIt's the best kind of number, Tain :)
13:54.12cryogenthen perhaps /ignore $one_person will meet your needs better :)
13:54.25cryogenthere are addons that will increase the size of yoru ignore list, too
13:54.35JensAnd I run them.
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13:54.46JensAnyway... "grats" problem goes a little deeper.
13:54.53TainI didn't know that /ignore was stored on your account, and not locally (as I *think* it was in EQ.)
13:55.07JensYou don't have to be a moron to "grats". It's just a knee jerk reaction by many people, that irritates me.
13:55.31cryogeni guess you are easily irritated
13:55.33TainAnd I let someone else in my guild use my char for something.  He later said to me, "HOw the hell can you have so many guildmates on ignore?"
13:55.33cryogeni pity you :)
13:55.38JensI am.
13:55.55JensI had guildies on ignore as well :)
13:56.03cryogenyou should lighten up, there are far more serious things in the world to worry about
13:56.18TainYou are easily pitiable.
13:56.18JensOne person was especially bad with her txt speak, to the  point where I could hardly make sense of it.
13:56.24JensIt was like line noise.
13:56.30JensI just filtered the noise.
13:56.30cryogennow *that* is annoying
13:57.02TainThe serious things in the world are too serious, who wants to worry about them.
13:57.06Jenscryogen: Nothing annoys me more than people telling me to lighten up when I express my displeasure with something.
13:57.08cryogenMuch like people who insist on talking on IRC like it's an essay.
13:57.36cryogenJens: nothing annoys *me* more than.. well, we could do this all day
13:57.37Jenscryogen: That's just how I write.
13:57.45TainI'll take fully formed sentences with punctuation over the butchering of language that goes on every day on IRC.
13:58.08TainI know I'll never again get it.
13:58.17JensThankfully, my brain is now wired to type with correct caps and grammar, and requires little concious thought from me.
13:58.33TainBut I still lament the loss of communication.
13:58.44cryogenmine too, and its also seriously easy to switch it off when typing into the irc terminal
13:59.05Neeblercalm down now people, don't get too full of yourselves and your newly found usage of typing the english language
13:59.11Jensi cud speek lik this lol, but itz hard 2 reed lmao
13:59.19TainNewly found?!
13:59.23cryogenJens: there is a middle ground..
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13:59.32cryogensomewhere around where i sit
13:59.35cryogenit's a nice place to be
14:00.13cryogenTyping in fully punctuated, capitalised sentences always seemed to be very condescending to me.
14:00.15JensI never flamed anyone for not using caps appropriately. But I just do it automatically. Don't say that makes me a bad person :)
14:00.18cryogenI don't know why.
14:00.33TainI've been on IRC since around 1992-93.  Possibly 1991, in my advanced age I forget.
14:00.57cryogeni joined it around the same time and am actively involved in its development
14:01.01JensFirst chat I remember using was WestChat from C&C or something.
14:01.02cryogenwhats your point? :)
14:01.21JensAnd I even had a stupid nick back then :)
14:01.36JensAnd no, I will never tell you.
14:01.44sergioyour nick is one letter away from taint
14:01.48cryogenJens: and i never flamed anyone for the former,just a pet hate like your gratsing i guess
14:01.48TainAt least back then you only had to deal with people who didn't use (or only used) a shift key.
14:02.04JensTrue.
14:02.21JensAt least that's trivial to filter.
14:02.27TainThe first big online chat I was ever on was QSD chat, based out of France.  But there were 4-10 line BBS systems locally.
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14:02.54cryogenyou havent seen butchered IRC until youve seen ircnet eggdrop botnets..
14:03.11Jens<PROTECTED>
14:03.13Jens??
14:03.22TainYeah I used to sit through nonsense wares channel takeovers.
14:03.29TainHe was talking to me I assume, Jens.
14:03.34JensOh, right.
14:04.01JensYou'd have to talk to my mom about my nick... she gave it to me :)
14:04.13phyber!
14:04.21phyber_G was made local in Skinner.
14:04.37phyberthe guy finally did something good.
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14:05.11JensHmm, I need a console ICQ client.
14:05.22cryogencentreicq
14:05.25Sroshhear, hear
14:05.27cryogenif that still exists
14:05.54MoonwolfPeople still use icq ?
14:05.55cryogencenter, rather
14:06.08Jensroot@OpenWrt:~# ipkg list | grep "icq"
14:06.11JensNo results :/
14:06.19cryogenyou should have center..
14:06.30phyberbitlbee + irssi, GO!
14:06.35cryogenyeah, that works too
14:06.53JensNot in OpenWRT repository.
14:07.13JensMoonwolf: You're using MSN?
14:07.15cryogenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centericq
14:07.17cryogencompile it from source. :p
14:07.32JensYea, but I'm not going to do that on router :)
14:07.45MoonwolfJens, I use google chat, so actually i am using jabber, with a gateway service for msn for a few stubborn friends.
14:07.47cryogenjust.. dont run irc from it, or i'll be forced to eliminate you from existance
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14:08.11cryogenit is officially the worst irc client ever to have been made
14:08.16Jensirssi?
14:08.22cryogenno, centericq
14:08.26JensOh that.
14:08.42cryogenit turns irc into a im contact list type affair
14:08.44JensI thought you were opposed to IRC'ing from router.
14:09.00cryogenand its way of telling who is online is to repeatedly WHOIS anyone it learns about.. forever
14:09.09JensOh god.
14:09.13Frittilol
14:09.35JensHow braindead do you have to be to code such an abomination?
14:09.40Frittiuse it and get k-lined?
14:09.55cryogeni maintain a network similar to this one.. and if you do a global notice or message.. you get all the centericq clients whoising you for all eternity
14:09.59cryogensometimes months later
14:10.24JensThat screams for a kline.
14:10.44cryogenone would hope it doesnt do this horrible thing anymore, but who knows
14:11.01cryogeni once debated an angry mail to the author, but never got around to it
14:11.11JensArg... morons here never stop asking what I'm doing with a terminal open.
14:11.26cryogenjust scream at them
14:11.29cryogenIT'S IRC, YOU FOOL!
14:11.41JensOh I did.
14:11.42TainI've never used CenterICQ for IRC (and wouldn't) but its one of the few (only?) console clients to do ICQ, AIM, Yahoo, and Google Talk in one.
14:12.05cryogenyeah, it's a nice IM client
14:12.12cryogeni first used it back when all it did was icq
14:12.16TainMy boss at my last job always used to ask me, "What's that black window you always have open?"  For eight years I never told him.
14:12.20cryogenand it didnt do it terribly well
14:12.21FrittiI'm too oldschool for IM, I don't see what's better than IRC
14:12.38Frittijust /msg me already I'll see it when I wan to
14:12.42Frittis/wan /want
14:12.45TainI used to use micq and naim, but I got annoyed keeping separate clients.
14:12.57cryogenmicq was pretty bad
14:13.02TainNot everyone is on IRC.  Thankfully.
14:13.06cryogenbut i hear good things about bitlebee
14:13.14Frittithat's about the only thing going for IM
14:13.28TainWell micq was simple, it just did one thing.  At the time it was the only one that was stable for me so I got used to it.  But its been a long time.
14:13.29JensI'm happy with Miranda.
14:13.56TainI even used TNT which was an emacs plugin to connect to AIM. :)
14:14.16cryogencute, the author of centericq is the same age as I am
14:14.28cryogeni do remember having an email exchange with him a few years ago
14:14.30TainI just need (well very much want) a console client for everything.
14:14.37cryogeni tried to convince him that centreicq was a much better name
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14:14.53TainThe author or mirq was a horrible dick.  It contributed to me not using it anymore.
14:14.55cryogensadly, he bowed to american pressure :(
14:15.06Tainmicq that is.
14:15.24JensUltraEdit syndrome.
14:15.29cryogenwait no, it wasnt email
14:15.43cryogenthats right, the first versions of center had Konst automatically in your contact list
14:15.46cryogeni talked to him there
14:16.00cryogen(what a weird thing to do..)
14:16.42JensSchool's over. I'm off.
14:17.33Tainhaha that's right, I remember that.
14:24.09beerkeanyone else downloading the 1.12to2.01 patch ?
14:24.59Funkeh`i have it
14:25.06Funkeh`the partial?
14:25.18beerkedunno what it is
14:25.27beerkesays 1.12x to 2.0.01 enGB
14:25.29Funkeh`wow-partial-1.MPQ
14:25.51Pupi was.. but i left it running for the last 3 or 4 hours and it downloaded about 1mb, so i stopped it
14:26.07Pupkept on opening p2p connections and doing nothing with em
14:26.09beerkeit's downloading like nothing
14:26.18Pupaye, its bollocks
14:26.19Funkeh`i had it on for 10 hours and it downloaded 0%
14:26.36Funkeh`then i realised they give you a torrent i opened it up in azureus and downloaded it at full connection
14:26.42cryogenthey have been tinkering with the settings for it
14:26.53cryogenits supposed to be rate limited while you're running wow
14:26.58Funkeh`C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Cache
14:27.18beerkelemme fire up bitcomet
14:27.44Funkeh`then after i just copied the folder C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW-1.12.x-to-2.0.1-enGB-patch
14:27.45echos_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_downloader
14:28.19Funkeh`so its C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW-1.12.x-to-2.0.1-enGB-patch\wow-partial-1.MPQ
14:28.21sbuuhm
14:28.25sbuwowinterface login broken?
14:30.34CIA-1703jerry 07jerry * r17677 10lern2count/lern2count/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:30.34CIA-17lern2count (jerry's branch) :
14:30.34CIA-17_ Added support for the following action bar addons :
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14:42.59abbat_whmmm...
14:43.11abbat_wanyone know Java? Or C++?
14:43.33abbat_wI read ace libs documentation and don't sure about 'mixin'.
14:43.53abbat_ware 'mixin' same as class in Java terms?
14:44.01uszits like inherited members
14:44.16abbat_wah, ok
14:44.16uszmore like in c++, as you can have multiple mixins
14:44.31abbat_wmultiply inheritance? :)
14:44.37uszthose functions are injected into your instance table
14:44.57uszlets say: AceComm and AceEvent
14:45.20uszyou mod instance table, will have methods injected from AceComm (like inheritance) and from AceEvent
14:45.47abbat_wthanks. now i understand all
14:46.15abbat_wso, ace libs is damnd nice ;)
14:46.29uszdont mess libs with mixins ^^
14:46.41uszbut libs are awesome
14:46.43abbat_w;)
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14:51.59CIA-1703drathos * r17678 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ (7 files):
14:51.59CIA-17FuBar_ReagentFu:
14:51.59CIA-17-Move ': ' to localized short names to fix reverse lookup for Ankhs.
14:58.46CIA-1703devla 07TBC * r17679 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua Mendeleev.toc libs/):
14:58.46CIA-17Mendeleev: TBC Branch
14:58.46CIA-17- Removed Compostlib code and files
15:03.18abbat_whhmm... libs system look nice
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15:07.03CIA-1703tristan * r17680 10T_RPP/T_RPP.toc:
15:07.03CIA-17T_RPP:
15:07.03CIA-17- Added another file for default values RPPValues.lua
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15:11.27pointodoes anyone know if bartender2 will be continued after the release of bartender3?
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15:13.28vax-how can i set the dewdrop/aceconsole texttype validate to check for numbers? not working: validate = function(v) return lua_isnumber(v) end
15:15.57uszwell 2 choices
15:16.02uszeither use 'range'
15:16.33uszor use: validate = function(v) return type(tonumber(v)) == "number" end
15:16.51AmadeoYou know, after all this time and the expansion...you'd think they could fix the chat frame bugs
15:17.12vax-usz: thanks, will test it
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15:30.19TainWow, there was a pirate Lineage 2 server with, according to reports, up to 50,000 players on it.
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15:42.38CIA-1703phyber * r17682 10FuBar_AddOnsFu/ (. AddOnsFu.lua):
15:42.38CIA-17FuBar_AddOnsFu:
15:42.38CIA-17- Initial import.
15:42.38CIA-17- Addon to toggle addons from a FuBar menu, instead of having to go back to the char select screen. Nowhere near usable.
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15:55.39vhaarr"WARNING! Naxxramas is scheduled to reset in 5 minutes. Please exit the zone or you will be returned to your bind location!"
15:55.42vhaarrRight.
15:56.49Amadeook, it's official
15:56.53AmadeoPaladins > * in TBC
15:59.45CIA-1703ammo * r17683 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Use the full sync message for throttling. This should fix most of the 4HM issues.
16:00.23Funkeh`ammo!!
16:00.35Funkeh`if it does you get a lifetime of cookies!
16:00.40vhaarrI get nothing?
16:00.53Funkeh`you broke synccing, go away
16:00.58Funkeh`:P
16:01.04vhaarrI broke nothing, what the fuck are you talking about?
16:01.11Funkeh`kidding ;p
16:01.25Funkeh`i sent you a /msg
16:02.00vhaarrAmmo didn't fix this alone, he just committed it. I am entitled to a cookie as well.
16:02.08Funkeh`ok
16:02.13Funkeh`hmm
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16:02.21Funkeh`bank account runs dry then :(
16:03.35[Ammo]yeah he's entitled to a cookie too
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16:09.10Elkanophyber, wrt AddOnFu: what's with ModMenuTuFu?
16:09.58phyberElkano: hmm?
16:10.22phyberah, something that does the same thing.
16:10.32phyberok.  It will never be complete now.  I'll just use that instead ;)
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16:13.57Elkanowell, maybe you can put your efforts in tuning ModMenuTuFu ^^ I don't know if it allows to load LoD addons by clicking
16:14.29phyberI'll take a look :)
16:15.57CIA-1703phyber * r17684 10FuBar_AddOnsFu/:
16:15.57CIA-17FuBar_AddOnsFu:
16:15.57CIA-17- Worthless addon. Your friends shall join you soon enough.
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16:20.16CartasMikma!
16:20.31CartasSomeone who knows anything about Bartender3!
16:21.08vhaarrnevcairiel ?
16:22.04CartasHm
16:22.11CartasThe default Blizzard bars are showing in TBC :(
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16:25.22nevcairielvhaarr: yes?
16:25.39vhaarrnevcairiel: Cartas was yelling for you.
16:25.58nevcairielThe blizzard bars cant show, unless some addon shows them
16:26.03nevcairielor your version is way old
16:26.07CartasOkay!
16:26.12Cartaslol
16:26.15CartasThanks
16:26.16nevcairielOr, disable them in the interface options
16:26.17nevcairiel:)
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16:26.45nevcairielThe problem is, i cannot touch the Bar settings in Bartender3, because i would taint lots of functions
16:26.57TainHey Kael
16:27.02nevcairielso i have to rely on peole actually managing to turn them off in the blizzard interface UI
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16:28.38CIA-1703rabbit * r17686 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: List all enabled modules in the tablet.
16:31.39beerkewhen you engage loatheb, does the FIRST spore  spawn 12 seconds after engaging ?
16:31.42phybernevcairiel: you can't toggle those options without tainting things?
16:32.20CIA-1703rabbit * r17687 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: Also list disabled but loaded modules.
16:34.06CIA-1703rabbit * r17688 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: Stop adding *** around log messages, it's just clutter.
16:34.18nevcairielphyber: there are the variables which i would need to set to false .. but they are secured iirc and would taint lots of frame placement stuff
16:34.39CartasWhere can I find a post which contains all TBC-working mods? :o
16:34.53vhaarrYou can start by reading the *topic*.
16:35.10CartasThanks! <3
16:35.12CartasYou're the best :P
16:38.10CIA-1703rabbit * r17689 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: Bug fix.
16:39.46kergothug, sleeeeeepy
16:39.53CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17690 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Core.lua Options.lua): Bartender3: Fixed a bug with option handling of disabled bars
16:39.58kergothwhy, oh why, cant my dog be willing to sleep just an hour longer
16:40.00kergothwhy?
16:41.02Moonwolfkergoth, since when did you get a dog ?
16:41.32CIA-1703usz * r17691 10PrivateChat/ (Core.lua PrivateChat.toc):
16:41.32CIA-17PrivateChat
16:41.32CIA-17- Added "who" command for checking who is on channel
16:41.32CIA-17- Countless other changes
16:41.33nevcairieloh my wowace is damn slow again
16:41.48CartasWhat the...
16:42.24CartasTinyTip should work in TBC if I put the Toc to 20000?
16:42.31nevcairielyea
16:42.33nevcairielit does
16:42.37nevcairieli am using it just fine
16:42.39CartasHm, I'll just recheck
16:43.41kergothMoonwolf: about a month ago, he's almost 3 months old now.  
16:43.45kergothMoonwolf, http://kergoth.com/images/smokey/smokey_1.jpg
16:44.17nevcairielcute
16:44.34kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/smokey/smokey_3.jpg - geek blanket ftw
16:44.48Moonwolfnice
16:45.02kergothpotty training is a royal pain in the ass
16:45.04MoonwolfI'm sure he will calm down when he grow up a bit.
16:45.08kergothyea
16:45.18kergothstill a puppy, with a bladder the s ize of a pea, i swear
16:45.22kergothwaking up every 4 hours to take him out
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16:45.50Moonwolfkergoth, you pictures scream geek
16:46.42kergothhehe
16:47.18CIA-1703rabbit * r17692 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Comm: Add functions to get the throttling tables.
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16:47.46CIA-1703rabbit * r17693 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: Show throttle tables in the tooltip.
16:48.11CIA-1703cwdg * r17694 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc: ClosetGnome_OhNoes:del zhcn.lua and add in OhNoes.lua
16:48.15MoonwolfHas autobar been ported to tbc ?
16:48.33kergothMoonwolf, he has a beta of it
16:48.37kergothlooks promising, but errors
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16:48.43kergothi'm using gello's autorack atm
16:48.43Tornhoofanyone happen to know why bigwigs and ora2 is being disabled all the time as default and the enabled state isn't saved?
16:48.45kergothgets the job done
16:49.12CartasNope, Bartender 3 isn't working at all :(
16:49.16kergoth:(
16:49.47CartasBartender3\libs\AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua:22: ')' expected near ','
16:50.59ElkanoCartas, when died you checkout?
16:51.10Moonwolfwhere does he keep the tbc beta ?
16:51.10Elkanoand TBC or vanila?
16:51.12CartasAbout 3mins ago
16:51.23CartasOh...
16:51.27CartasSilly me.
16:51.34CartasIt isn't meant to work on the Test Realm, right? :p
16:52.02kergothMoonwolf, check curse, i saw it released there, havent seen it on the svn though. *shrug*
16:52.14Moonwolfright
16:52.19Moonwolfill stick to no autobar for now.
16:52.55kergothcheck out autorack. relies on showing you buttons based on contents of specific slots in your inventory, and just moves the stuff into that slot
16:53.01kergothits uisable, better than nothing
16:53.10ZodiElkano: Is there a current working ebb ? when I load my wow (or try to) it just freezes. This is for TBC.
16:53.41Elkanothis has already been fixed
16:53.46Zodiok cool
16:53.51ZodiI'll get the new version hten
16:53.52Elkanouse the TBC branch
16:53.52Zodithen
16:53.56Zodiaye
16:54.03Zodi<3 mod ;)
16:54.20Elkanoeven added rank display using roman numbers today :)
16:54.28Zodisweetness
16:54.41Zodiwhat about that when you login first time it only shows numbers
16:54.49Zodiand not the names of the buffs
16:55.01Elkanoit does? shouldn't
16:55.06Zodiit fixes with a /rl
16:55.10leech2kis there a ace replacement for telo's selfcast?
16:55.14Zodibut starts up that way tho
16:55.21Elkanobut I switched to the new GetPlayerBuffName API today anyways
16:55.30Zodioke I'll try when I get home
16:55.36axxo(dont shoot me, i'm getting) [2006/11/21 17:53:19-87-x1]: AceModuleCore-2.0\AceModuleCore-2.0.lua:26: <eof> expected near `end'
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16:57.02Elkanoaxxo, TBC or vanila?
16:57.26CartasHmm
16:57.29CartasWhat addons work with the PTR?
16:57.29axxovanilla
16:58.03mjchttp://www.knitemare.org/cats/
16:58.05mjcgood stuff.
16:58.24CIA-1703rabbit * r17695 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua:
16:58.24CIA-17BigWigs_Debugger:
16:58.24CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:58.24CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:58.24CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:59.57ElkanoCartas, most TBC addons should
17:00.10CartasOkay.
17:02.16kergothElkano, gonna be picking up ebb_ace2 at some point in the future? :)
17:02.43Elkanosure, but most likely after TBC release
17:02.50AmadeoI like this thread
17:02.52Amadeohttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=48566387&sid=1
17:04.39Amadeomjc: I laughed my ass off at Monorail Cat
17:04.48mjchehe
17:05.03CartasHmm
17:05.18CartasThanks Elkano!
17:05.27CartasEverything is working great now, apart from Bartender3!
17:06.07Elkanowell wrt the ace bugs I cant do anything
17:09.36CIA-1703cwdg * r17696 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.toc: ClosetGnome_OhNoes:del zhcn.lua and add in OhNoes.lua
17:11.51Sroshif I do a /ac2 list libs I get the following error: AceAddon-2.0.lua:834: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "slashCommand" does not exist. :s
17:11.58Srosh*ace2
17:12.33SroshenGB 1.12
17:15.10kergothanyone here played with strconcat()?
17:15.15kergothit seems to not work worth a shit here
17:15.32kergothhmm
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17:15.43kergothah, it helps to not typo commenting something out
17:15.45kergothsilly kergoth
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17:22.18Sroshhm, I had this today too but after updating it went away
17:22.32CIA-1703fenlis * r17697 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs : Update locals koKR (Kelthuzad.lua)
17:24.10Sarozvhaarr, RFE: BigWigs_SendTell, don't send tells to yourself
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17:30.06vhaarrSaroz: I know, I agree, it's on my mile-long todo.
17:30.28vhaarrSaroz: People claim BWHBA does not work at all.
17:30.33SarozI know vhaarr
17:30.35Sarozit's fucked up
17:30.41SarozIt's the special event auras
17:30.41vhaarrSaroz: It worked the last time I used it, so I'm guessing it's your changes.
17:30.45Saroznope
17:30.47vhaarraha
17:30.57SarozIt doesn't fire correctly when people get debuffs
17:31.01vhaarrWhat's wrong with it, then?
17:31.05SarozI debugged it, reloaded UI a few times, and then it worked
17:31.17Sarozthen a few reloads later, it stopped working again
17:31.23SarozI'm _guessing_, LoD?
17:31.43SarozIn any case, the UnitDebuffGained thing is not fireing, at all
17:32.14Sarozand I didn't touch that part :)
17:32.43CIA-1703fenlis * r17698 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs : Added trigger for Phase2 (Kelthuzad.lua)
17:33.15Sarozand WTB trac -.-
17:34.26Sarozvhaarr, maybe the OnRegister change? I dunno
17:37.48kergothckknight, ping
17:38.36ckknightkergoth, pong
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17:41.40kergothckknight, i have an optimization for AceConsole.CustomPrint / .Print
17:41.52ckknightk, what is it?
17:42.04GtyrteAnyone can help me here, I am wondering of someone know of a addons that lets me see who someone is targeting and if theyare casting something.
17:42.07DrDreError: AceLocale(Cartographer_InstanceNotes): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice.
17:42.10kergothgets rid of the tmp table
17:42.16DrDreError: AceModuleCore-2.0: The module "InstanceNotes" has already been registered
17:42.22DrDreError: AceLocale(Cartographer_InstanceNotes): Translation "Necro WIng" does not exist.
17:42.31DrDreor are those known?
17:42.40ckknightDrDre, InstanceNotes was included in Cartographer, get rid of the standalone one.
17:42.43kergothuses a tail call to convert to an iteration over ... to do the tostring()
17:42.46DrDreoh ok
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17:43.10ckknightkergoth, ah, okay.
17:43.26kergothhttp://ace.pastey.net/2616
17:43.37kergotherm, thats not quite right, /me fixes
17:43.53DrDreis boss loot scheduled to come with it soon? :P
17:43.58kergothhttp://ace.pastey.net/2617
17:43.59kergoththats better
17:44.40Elkano\o/ seems like I just fixed EBB1's anchor bug :)
17:45.59axxofatality!
17:46.05SarozWTB EBB action
17:48.04kergothckknight: mind if i check that in on the tbc branch? works fine here
17:48.49ckknightgo ahead
17:49.21haste~laziness
17:49.27purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
17:49.34kergothseems silly, i doubt a single select('#', ...) to see if theres something to return is that much overhead
17:49.50kergothah well
17:49.53kergothhaste, :)
17:50.14CIA-1703elkano 07ebb1_TBC * r17699 10ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar.lua: ElkBuffBar - seems like I finally fixed the anchor bug :)
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17:50.18kergothElkano, hooray
17:50.22hasteso.. I just wrote a RSS parser, which saves the feed table of latest anime releases, and downloads the torrent into a directory, which is feed to Azureus on the server via the XML over HTTP plugin
17:50.28haste<3 laziness
17:50.50hasteoh, and it's lua
17:50.53CIA-1703saroz * r17700 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: God damn zip script, get those externals in there!
17:50.54SarozI'm going emo soon over that script
17:51.04Elkanokergoth, I moved my layoutupdate from ADDON_LOADED to PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD; this seems to be after Blizzard messing with my frame
17:51.44kergothaha
17:52.41CIA-1703kergoth 07TBC * r17701 10Ace2/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua:
17:52.41CIA-17Ace2: TBC branch, AceConsole-2.0:
17:52.41CIA-17* Tail recursion is fun for the whole family! (optimize CustomPrint to no
17:52.41CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:53.56kergothhonestly i'm happier than the function is cleaner than i am about any possible performance benefit :) but what the hell
17:54.17ckknightyea, pretty much.
17:54.23ckknightI want writable tuples, though
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17:54.58kergothi'd be happy with immutable tuples that we can at least store in variables
17:55.11ckknightyea
17:56.02AmadeoIs there any way to stop the lame advertisements that send with your Yahoo emails?
17:56.26kergothswitch to gmail?
17:56.27kergoth:P
17:56.39Tainhah
17:56.52AmadeoGmail is my main account
17:56.53Amadeo:)
17:56.55TainI still use yahoo email but it's pretty much just a spam bin these days.
17:56.58AmadeoI'm just anal
17:57.04Taingmails is where its at.
17:57.14AmadeoI get a lot of spam in my Gmail account
17:57.25AmadeoReason being, a lot of people apparently wanted my address
17:57.32AmadeoI get their mail all the time
17:57.40AmadeoOrder confirmations, shipping notifications
17:58.03TainI do get spam, not as much as on Yahoo, but I do find the gmail filter is very good.
17:58.06kergothi get a lot of spam everywhere :(
17:58.09AmadeoI've been getting jokes from some lady that has the same last name as I do
17:58.15AmadeoI guess she thinks I'm a relative
17:58.17kergoththeres 2500 in my gmail spam bin atm
17:58.20Amadeoouch
17:58.28Moonwolfi ignore the spam bin
17:58.37TainI was very sad with one account that I got virtually no spam on, then I used it to sign up on a single web site and my spam rocketed.
17:58.43Moonwolfwehn i am really bored i go in a press the delete all button.
17:58.49kergothi remember a test i did once
17:58.54kergothsigned up for a hotmail account, and gave it to no one
17:58.55TainI empty my spam folder constantly on gmail.
17:58.58TainMany times a day.
17:58.59kergothit had spam within 24 hours
17:59.00kergothgo MS
17:59.06Moonwolfhaha
17:59.09TainYep absolutely kergoth.  
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17:59.24AmadeoI've noticed that receiving spam has a lot to do with the username you choose
17:59.32Moonwolfprivacy policy ... whats taht.
17:59.33Amadeoif you choose something simple and common, you usually start getting spam fast
17:59.34Elkanokergoth, which account name have you choosen? choose a meaningless long name and test again ;)
17:59.40AmadeoYeah
17:59.58kergothit was ar andom word out of the dictionary coupled with a number at the end
18:00.08kergothnot likely scanners found it, ms sold the address
18:00.40TainI think some places just get lists of all accounts at a host somehwere.
18:01.24TainI get emails to my Yahoo account that are sent to my name, and then another 10 that look like just part of an alphabetical list of accounts.
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18:02.08kergothtempbans arent really tepmbans unless i remember to remove them at some point
18:02.09kergoth:P
18:02.14hastehehe
18:02.15ckknightlol
18:02.37hasteI did that the lazyway, I set my bot to clear bans three hours after they are set
18:02.46ckknightThunder_Child came from Quakenet, what can you say.
18:02.48CIA-1703nevcairiel 07TBC * r17702 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: button state will refresh in OnUpdate as well now.
18:02.56kergoththats a good idea, manual bans will go away, but can set the ban in the bot and let it control it for permanent ones
18:03.01kergothi wonder if chanserv can do that
18:04.19uszyes it should be able to do it
18:05.16kergothi know i can set bans with it, i do so regularly, just wondering if it can clear the ones i set without it after a certain period.  guess i could do that with an irc client script instead.
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18:09.30CIA-1703ammo * r17703 10Teknicolor/ (Core.lua Teknicolor.toc libs/): Teknicolor: switch to babble2.2
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18:10.11Grineammo, can you check a thing in Teknicolor for me?
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18:11.38cncfanaticsyo all
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18:12.22Zyphrdid something happen to bartender?
18:14.09nevcairielwhat shouldve happend?
18:14.31Funkeh`im just wondering the latest version show in query is 17662 but the 4HM sync fix was after that. does it matter if theres people without the fix? will it bug up others?
18:15.30Funkeh`i means if 20 people are updated and 5 arent will it matter? :P
18:17.16vhaarrIt will work for the people who have updated.
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18:17.44vhaarrFor those who have not, it will also work, as long as the unreproducable events occur that trigger this bug.
18:17.58vhaarrs/occur/not occur/
18:18.35Nivyancan someone send me their skinning config? Mine is ruined and can't figure out how to make it look good - and i aint happy with the default
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18:21.58kergothhttp://ace.pastey.net/2620
18:22.13CIA-1703rabbit * r17704 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Make sure GetInventoryItemLink returns something useful.
18:22.50vhaarrkergoth: strsplit is 5.1/wow2.0 only?
18:22.56kergothyep
18:23.14kergothstrsplit/strjoin/strconcat/strtrim
18:23.21kergothuseful stuff
18:23.24vhaarrI'd like that stuff for BugGrabber bug printing.
18:23.53kergoth<PROTECTED>
18:24.07kergothwhich is why i had to use a recursion to accomplish it without a temporary table there
18:24.12kergotha bit annoying
18:24.41vhaarrindeed, fishy
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18:29.07kergothvhaarr, http://ace.pastey.net/2621 :P
18:29.24vhaarrlol :P
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18:30.51kergothheh, that function could be useful actually.  print(iteratemebitch(tostring, ...))
18:33.08NivyanWhen i log-out, i lose my key-bindings. Anyway to make sure i keep them?
18:33.11CIA-1703beerke * r17705 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
18:33.11CIA-17BigWigs_LoathebTactical :
18:33.11CIA-17- Revamped code
18:33.11CIA-17- Added sound effects (thanks to Wydrian)
18:33.11CIA-17- Added graphic effects (thanks to Wydrian)
18:33.12CIA-17- Changed Locales (please update)
18:34.17Moonwolfkergoth and his iterators
18:34.37kergothwell.. theres no other way to iterate over multiple returns without using a temporary table :)
18:34.43Moonwolftrue
18:34.51Funkeh`vhaarr: so if it does error, it will only affect old versions correct?
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18:34.56Moonwolfbut you seem to have some love of iterators
18:35.00vhaarrFunkeh`: yes
18:35.10Funkeh`vhaarr: nice <3
18:35.16Moonwolfor is that love for...
18:35.21Moonwolfstupid english language
18:37.49AntiarcI've grown really attached to Ruby's iteration style.
18:40.50CIA-1703ammo * r17706 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Fixed LoD enabling of coremodules.
18:45.45kergothwow, i think minnastats is as capable as damagemeters, and is 200K ram wise.  i need to try this in a raid
18:46.43cncfanaticsswstats > all :p
18:46.54Moonwolfyou are mistaken, recap > *
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18:50.21AntiarcI've never been pleased with SWStats
18:50.37AntiarcThe data it collects has never agreed with DM, Recap, or my own homebrew ghetto damage meter.
18:50.38cncfanaticsI like swstats, it takes lots of mem, but has lots of filters and you can keep logs if used correctly
18:50.48cncfanaticsand it matches perfectly with dm here
18:50.55AntiarcMaybe I was using an older version
18:50.59cncfanaticsyea
18:51.05cncfanaticsolder versions don't include any dot's
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18:51.10AntiarcBut a meter that doesn't correctly record data is useless to me. :D
18:51.52odtlool, my guild is wiping at 4h at the moment
18:52.06odtpart of it seems to be that ppl are using different bigwigs versions, and the mark counter is different
18:52.08Grinenoobs imo
18:52.42odtyea, dno why we arent 1shotting him
18:52.46odtthem*
18:53.29ElkanoI wonder if we ever manage to fix Teknicolor for BGs ;)
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18:53.58Grinewe're on Gluth atm, so I should prolly be quiet >.>
18:55.56DrDrewhat addon is putting this black box in middle of screen about who rolled on what loot
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18:56.05DrDreprat?
18:56.08leech2kwe have had issues trying to find a good 4h mod also
18:56.13leech2kbigwigs seems best so far
18:56.20leech2kbut I also suspect some version skew
18:56.41vhaarrthere is, but the latest version should work
18:56.59leech2klastest svn version?
18:56.59vhaarrUnfortunately, it is highly unstable due to the LoD changes that are not finalized.
18:57.01vhaarryes
18:57.16vhaarrhowever, if you keep it embedded, it should be fine
18:57.31leech2kkk I will leg my guildies know :-)
18:57.50Elkanohmm... just noticed we still need to update Glory, HonorFu and BGFu for 2.0/BC
18:59.58nevcairielso go for it Elkano :)
19:01.04Elkanono time :/
19:03.36odtyeah, i'm using all 3
19:05.12nevcairieltempest keep back :)
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19:09.25Sarozvhaarr, you found the bug for BWHBA?
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19:12.01nevcairielsome stupid orc warrior killed me while i was coding with pvp on, how i hate that kind of players.
19:12.26nevcairieland how i hate horde players.
19:12.58Azurewrathmhm.. can someone confirm that the Heigan start Trigger does not work?
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19:12.59Azurewrathin BigWigs i mean, sorry..
19:13.05cncfanaticsnevcairiel, i'm horde !
19:13.13nevcairieland i hate you.
19:13.15nevcairielfits
19:13.16nevcairiel:)
19:13.40cncfanatics:p
19:13.59Funkeh`heigan worked for me azure
19:14.03Funkeh`this week
19:14.03odtlool, our 4h pracc today - this bigwigs is broken, lets all installt that 1
19:14.12odtno wait, that one is broken too, get another 1
19:14.20Azurewrathmhm.. weird.. i don't get the first timer.. works only after the first Teleport
19:14.29Funkeh`odt: that why my guild this week
19:14.32Sarozcomplain more
19:14.33Funkeh`now bigwigs is updated im praying to god it works :P
19:14.42odti'm not complaining, just laughing
19:14.45odtim doing pvp today
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19:23.49Elkanogreat... stuck in BG after we won :/
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19:31.52kergothhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3500 really seems to kick ass
19:31.56kergothhttp://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/minnastats08_20061120.jpg
19:31.57ckknightso I have to do a paper on Global Warming
19:32.06ckknightit's due in 2 hours
19:32.15ckknightI have 3 more pages left
19:32.17ckknightblah.
19:32.17Sarozuhhh nice kergoth
19:32.17Elkanoblame US
19:32.18JoshBorkebetter get writing...
19:32.21Sarozone more dreaking damagemeter
19:32.24JoshBorkeElkano: :-(
19:32.25Sarozfreaking*
19:32.26kergothSaroz, warmup says its 200KiB
19:32.43Temit's all just a pack 'o lies!
19:32.51ckknightI'm currently only talking about the skeptical side of global warming, without even reaching into the icky parts
19:33.00Sarozyes, but I just got my guild to use SW Stats -.-
19:33.03kergothhehe
19:33.14Temthat's unfortunate, Saroz
19:33.16kergothi need to get my guild to actually listen to me when it comes to this stuff
19:33.18ckknightTem, I'm skeptical about an anthropogenic cause of climactic change, but I do believe it's happening.
19:33.34TemI was talking about warmup numbers, yo
19:33.42AntiarcHeheh.
19:33.48AntiarcI think ckknight is, too :)
19:33.49Sarozyo
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19:33.58ckknighthehe, antiarc
19:34.00Temnono
19:34.06Temugh
19:34.12AntiarcI know what you meant :P
19:34.21Temyes
19:34.28Azurewrathmhm k.. if you have Heigan as Target the startttrigger works, if not, not.
19:34.33MoonwolfBest review for the wii ever: "The pain isn't unberable yet, time for wii baseball"
19:34.41AntiarcHahaha, nice.
19:36.51odtwii is a console i'd actually consider getting aswell
19:37.00odtthe last one i had was an atari from china
19:37.32andgno doubt the globe is warming, but it's about the cause.
19:37.45andgeveryone is talking like it is a proven fact that man made CO2 pollution is the cause
19:37.47Grineodt: just play your friends Wii ;)
19:38.03odtGrine: i dont have any friends :(
19:38.08Grinethat's how I finish Kirby, Super Princess Peach and NSMB on the DS :P
19:38.08odtjust my wife and kid
19:38.24Grinethe kid realyl needs a Wii for christmas then!
19:38.29odtyeah!
19:38.42odtalmost 3 is a good time to start with consoles i guess
19:38.48Moonwolflol
19:38.55odt:)
19:39.16grollhmm is there no tbc beta of fubar?
19:39.21AntiarcThere is
19:39.26AmadeoDoes Wii have online gaming capability?
19:39.32grollhmm where? cant find it on the svn
19:39.43AntiarcI found it on wowinterface
19:39.48grollah oke thx
19:40.11nevcairielfubar works directly in TBC
19:40.14nevcairieljust change the tox
19:40.16nevcairieltoc
19:40.21nevcairieland use the Ace2 TBC branch
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19:43.05MeryAmadeo: yes although there aren't any games yet (because didn't give the libs to the 3rd party publishers yet)
19:43.14Merybecause nintendo*
19:44.00Meryworks just like the DS (only that the friendscode is now console bound)
19:45.17Amadeohm, but you can do it over the internet?
19:47.06Meryyes (wireless build in, ethernet costs extra) once there are games to use it
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19:47.45AmadeoI hope there are a lot of games that use it
19:47.50Amadeothat's the main thing that would get me to buy a console
19:48.11Meryactually I got my console only to play with friends
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19:48.53Grineplaying together on the sofa>internet play
19:49.27AmadeoI can't get anyone to play console games with me, been that way forever
19:49.32Amadeonobody likes to lose
19:49.35Amadeoand I always win :P
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19:50.03Temso play cooperative games instead
19:50.09Amadeoyeah but those are boring!
19:50.13Amadeohahaha
19:50.35AmadeoI think the Wii's biggest potential is in FPS games
19:50.42Amadeobased on the "mouselook" of the control
19:51.36odtis it good enough for modern fps?
19:51.42odthavent heard about its specs at all
19:51.53Grineso, this MinnaStats seems cool, now I need a fubar plugin :P
19:52.43ckknight_wow, I spend like a page and a half just criticizing Gore
19:52.48ckknight_I only meant that to be like half a page
19:53.01ckknight_anyone have any insights toward global warming?
19:53.30Gngskgiant ice cubes > global warming
19:53.43GrineGore>* :(
19:53.44Mahirois it possible in bc to use something like: if UnitPowerType("unit")==0 then CastSpellByName("name")..... in a addon?
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19:54.00JoshBorkeMahiro: not in combat
19:54.20TainGlobal warming makes me buy more air conditioners.
19:54.32ckknight_JoshBorke, actually, CastSpellByName was broken out of combat as well
19:54.37JoshBorketrue
19:54.37ckknight_I think
19:55.56Meryregarding the fps shooters: they first have to find out how to decently make use of the controls - most seem not to impressed by the "move out the middle box to rotate"
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19:56.32TainThe Wii sports games are getting pretty good reviews overall.
19:57.05Funkeh`erm
19:57.12Funkeh`i just got my whole guild to upfate bigwigs
19:57.15Funkeh`and its somewhat buggered
19:57.19odtyeah
19:57.28Funkeh`its showing me mark 123 at start then 456
19:57.29odtlooks the same for us, from what i hear about vent
19:57.34odtFunkeh`: also at 4h?
19:57.38Funkeh`now chaos starts
19:57.42Funkeh`yes
19:58.35grollwhat should i change the toc to for tbc?
19:58.43odtFunkeh`: you also using vendetta?
19:58.56AzurewrathHeigan is bugged too as i said.. the initial Timer only shows up if you have Heigan as your Target when the Encounter starts..
19:59.18vhaarrFunkeh`: So the latest BW is broken as well? What does the debugger say?
20:00.02Funkeh`im not using it
20:00.04Funkeh`:X
20:00.21Funkeh`we only just did our first attempt and its ugged everyone is swapping to imba now ;_:
20:00.27Funkeh`bugged*
20:00.36AmadeoJust got Insta-Pyro'd for 5000 damage
20:00.44Amadeowhat was all this talk about no more one or two shotting?
20:00.54Funkeh`gonna try debugger
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20:02.35AzurewrathAmadeo: mhm.. 5000hp is not that much in TBC.. i have about 5200hp on my 66 Mage unbuffed.. and that with mostly old epics which don't have that crazy stamina stats
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20:02.50Azurewrathso to prevent one-shotting.. get decent gear :)
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20:05.27Icerothhmmm, anyone tried this MinnaStats? (http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3500)
20:05.33kergothIceroth, i'm playing with it
20:05.34kergothseems quite nice
20:05.50kergothand warmup (doing a full gc between addons) says its only 200K
20:05.53kergothneed to play with it more though
20:05.54Nickenyfikenfrom the descrition it looks nice
20:05.58kergothcheck k/s during combat and stuff
20:07.15[Liquidor]My account is temp. closed (and wow-eu is down), so I'm asking if anyone here would be so kind and make a profile of their character so I can do some coding? Addon to be used: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1444-1-rpgocharacterprofiler.html
20:08.29kergothi'm sure lots of us have profiles
20:08.34kergothi generally upload mine to rpgoutfitter
20:09.08GrineI'm messing around with it too Iceroth :P as you might have guesse
20:09.11Grine+d
20:09.44Icerothwell i saw your topic, that's why i'm asking here :p
20:09.52Grine;)
20:09.53[Liquidor]kergoth: could you browse your saved variables for a lua I could borrow?
20:09.54Funkeh`updated to latestest latest and gow debugger lets see how this goes
20:10.08Funkeh`latest* got*
20:11.02Nickenyfikendamn wow-europe must be in guinnes world record book for most server downtime
20:14.14TainWow Google shares jumped over $500 for the first time.
20:14.37[Liquidor]Isn't it great Nickenyfiken ? :)
20:14.53[Liquidor]And my account just got closed -.-
20:14.59Nickenyfikenbad luck
20:15.28[Liquidor]te
20:15.28Nickenyfikensometimes it works like 5 in the morning
20:15.48Nickenyfikenlol it even crash my FF now
20:15.58Funkeh`vhaarr: you here?
20:16.03vhaarryes
20:23.47Mikmaso what's new
20:26.21Mikmakergoth: http://mikma.reaktio.net/lady.jpg
20:27.33kergothcute, is that a mini australian shepherd?
20:29.18Mikmakergoth: nope, it's lapland's reindeerdog
20:30.12kergothah, nice.  they look similar in coloring. different coat and slightly different ears though
20:30.16kergothhow old?
20:30.21Mikma7,5 weeks
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20:32.06Grinewhere you from Mikma?
20:32.31MikmaGrine: funland
20:32.41TainLas Vegas?
20:32.48Grineah kk
20:32.56Grine<--swe
20:33.07Icerothwe'll forgive you
20:33.19Mikmalol
20:33.30Grine./slap Ice
20:33.39Grineshaddap and heal me
20:33.54Icerothi'm reading forums, i can't heal you now
20:34.07Silviu-Iceroth can u resize that miniastats ?
20:34.20Icerothhaven't installed it yet
20:34.24Silviu-Ah ok
20:34.31GrineSilviu- can't find any way yet
20:34.33Silviu-It`s big
20:34.36Silviu-...
20:34.44kergothdoesnt seem very large here
20:36.56Icerothjust find the name of the main frame and call :SetScale() for it i guess :)
20:37.09Grinethat wolf in the background is fugly
20:37.18kergothits his dog, and i disagree
20:37.23kergothit isnt a good fit there, but its a cute dog
20:37.40Funkeh`lol
20:37.43Funkeh`thisd is good
20:37.45Grinethat's what I meant :P
20:37.47Funkeh`now imba was off 1 mark
20:37.52Funkeh`you ant win :P
20:37.54Funkeh`cant*
20:38.42GngskMStatsFrame:SetScale(.9) MStatsFightFrame:SetScale(.9)
20:38.48Silviu-http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot112106223542xr4.jpg
20:39.44Silviu-Big :(
20:40.04kergothno bigger than damagemeters is by default
20:40.10kergothbut hopefully he'll add alpha and scale settings
20:40.41GngskYea, that'd be nice
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20:41.08kergothhe seems to pay attention to the comments on ui.worldofwar, should mention it there
20:41.09GngskI setup a tinypad page with the scale/width/height settings I like and just run it whenever
20:41.45Grinelots of modifications to be made in the looks imo :)
20:41.50Grinebut otherwise it
20:41.53Grine's fine...
20:41.53hastegrrr
20:43.22hasteadds even :(
20:45.18TainYou crazy Dutch.  http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061121/od_afp/afplifestylenetherlands_061121173130
20:45.34CIA-1703rabbit * r17707 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs: Horsemen: Attempt to fix sync issue.
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21:01.09KodewulfElkano: hi...
21:01.46Elkanosee query
21:02.27mjc<pingo> it would be great if someone made tetris to play inside wow :P
21:02.27mjc<pingo> when youre testing a profile and have nothing to do...
21:02.27mjc<mjc> you just asked for a way to play a 20 year old game inside a program that plays a modern flashy bestseller game for you...
21:02.29mjchahah
21:03.08Maldiviawell, considering Blizzard has implemented a Tic-Tac-Toe game into WoW, why not tetris...
21:03.27mjcbecause he's botting, so an in-wow tetris would be unplayable
21:03.32leech2kthere is tictactoe?
21:03.33mjcit'd ahve to be in the bot
21:03.54Maldivialeech2k: it's part of their MiniGames
21:03.58leech2ko
21:04.07Maldiviaa feature that's not been enabled yet, though
21:09.11hastedidn't cosmos have games?
21:10.21Sarozthose bars are hot Silviu-
21:11.12Silviu-Saroz what bars ?
21:11.17Sarozhttp://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot112106223542xr4.jpg
21:11.37Silviu-cycrcled
21:11.52Silviu-yes it`s my ui
21:11.55Sarozoh, nice
21:12.14ckknight_solution to global warming: we move the earth's orbit out slightly, and have a "robot party week"
21:13.20Silviu-But that Minnastats is BIG :P
21:13.28Tembut what if one polite or selfish robot refuses to help?
21:14.02ckknight_hehe, Tem ;-)
21:14.24ckknight_I have 4 and a quarter pages of my 5 page global warming paper
21:14.37ckknight_maybe that'll be enough...
21:14.50ckknightI do have like 12 sources.
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21:28.50DrDresoo i added this to give me a slahs command for /bank
21:28.52DrDreSlashCmdList["BANK"] = function() BagnonFrame_Toggle("Banknon") end
21:28.52DrDreSLASH_BANK1 = "/bank"
21:28.59DrDrenow everytime i login my bank is open O.o
21:29.01DrDrewhy is that lol
21:29.23ckknighthehe
21:29.30ckknightfunny.
21:29.33ckknightprolly a bug
21:31.07leech2kanyonw know what even I woud use to catch the "
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21:33.29steinolol
21:33.34steinobored bwl raids win
21:33.35hastewe're gambling in raid chat :D
21:33.46steino"lets /roll for 200g" "ok"
21:33.46leech2kanyone know what evetn I would use to catch the "winning_player_name has defeated losing_player_name in a duel." text?
21:34.03steino"x rolls 1 (1-100)"
21:34.04steino:O
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21:35.34hasteleech2k: "(.-) has defeated (.-) in a duel." should work
21:38.51leech2ksweet thanks kind of looking for the event that I would have to watch though like CHAT_MSG_XXX
21:41.35hasteoh, event
21:41.42hasteI suck at reading while raiding :(
21:41.43Elkanoleech2k, use devtools :)
21:42.08hasteDUEL_WINNER_KNOCKOUT
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21:47.29leech2kwhat is this devtools :-)
21:48.24Mery~devtools
21:48.25purlrumour has it, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta
21:48.59leech2ksweet thx
21:49.09leech2kprobaly would have made my mod writing life easier :-)
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21:56.00ag`_Anyone on EU BC?
21:56.06ag`_I need help
21:56.11ag`_Mikma, that means you
21:56.14ag`_or nevcairiel
21:56.19ag`_:P
21:56.36Azurewrathag`_: if you just need a char online i can help again :)
21:56.40AntiarcMaexxna can die in a fire.
21:56.41Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYvp5NvCwNk
21:56.44ag`_Azurewrath, great
21:56.52ag`_Azurewrath, alliance
21:56.54AntiarcShe basically one-shotted our 10k HP tank with Thrash last night.
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21:58.08AntiarcThree hits, two of them crushing, in one attack.
21:58.12AntiarcThere's just...no way around that.
21:59.05FwipSo, I have this ace options table entry, and I'm trying to construct a checkbox to toggle that option (if it's a toggle), but I seem to be getting hung up on calling the methods to check to see if it should be checked.  Right now I'm trying things like v.get() (v is the option), but I'm getting " attempt to call field `get' (a string value)"
21:59.08frus`that's not even close to 1-hit
21:59.12frus`he was on like 70%
21:59.36FwipIt's probably a namespace thing (I'm terrible at those), but... any ideas?
21:59.37AntiarcTwo-shotted then :P
21:59.47frus`could've been avoided
21:59.54AntiarcHow?
21:59.58AntiarcThat happened during a wrap
21:59.59frus`some little thing I call healing
22:00.02AntiarcHOTs were up but hadn't ticked.
22:01.14AntiarcNo direct healing possible during the wrap, and he was killed in far less than the HOT tick interval.
22:01.14vhaarrFwip: AceConsole has no state.
22:01.39frus`there sure is no rejuvenation on
22:01.47FwipI'm not sure what you mean (I'm awfully new to this)
22:01.55frus`& no regrowth either
22:02.03AntiarcNot visible, no, but that's the stock UI
22:02.07frus`not possible to see renew on crap youtube quali :p
22:02.16AntiarcThe tank was buffed out the ass - he has 16 buff slots filled already
22:02.22frus`it is visible at other times
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22:02.49frus`when he dies there's 14 buffs visible
22:03.40AntiarcAbolish Poison was one of them that fell off. Not sure what the other was.
22:04.06frus`and there's more then 16 buff slots
22:04.08frus`24 I think
22:04.13frus`there's just only 16 visible in the standard ui
22:04.17vhaarrFwip: Who are you talking to?
22:04.19AntiarcSlots, but not visible in the UI, yes
22:04.33frus`and there's only 14 visible, so means there aren't more on him :p
22:04.35frus`but nm
22:04.37frus`just blame the game :)
22:04.40Fwipvhaarr: At you, I wasn't sure what you meant by 'no state' for AceConsole
22:04.41frus`easiest way :)
22:04.58vhaarrFwip: No state means it doesn't know what the hell your option is set to.
22:05.04vhaarrFwip: And it never will, and never has.
22:05.56JoshBorkefrus`: i blame blizzard!
22:06.04frus`exactly :)
22:06.28vhaarrFwip: Maybe you should pastey.net your code.
22:06.53Fwipvhaarr:  Okay, hang on
22:07.52vhaarrFwip: AceConsole is stateless, if that makes more sense.
22:07.55vhaarr~dict stateless
22:08.03vhaarrhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_server
22:08.26Fwipfor k,v in pairs (optionList) do
22:08.26Fwipif v.type == 'group' then
22:08.26FwiphelperButton:SetChecked(v.get())
22:08.26Fwipend
22:08.26Fwipend
22:08.34Fwipthere's the relevant bit (sorry bout formatting)
22:08.41vhaarrThat's wrong in so many ways.
22:08.49vhaarrFwip: I suggest you go read some code on the SVN.
22:08.55vhaarrOr the wiki docs.
22:09.11FwipThanks, any place in particular you'd like to point me?  I'm very new at this
22:09.31vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon#Chat_Commands_and_Configuration
22:09.37Fwipokay, thanks
22:10.17vhaarrAlthough I advise you to just read the whole thing.
22:11.16DrDreError: Tablet-2.0: You cannot open a tablet with an unregistered parent frame. File: Interface\AddOns\Skinner\AddonFrames.lua ... My worldmap frame isnt even skinned >_>
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22:18.17ag`_Azurewrath, you there?
22:18.35Azurewrathwhoops, yes
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22:22.49DrDrewhy is prat not getting the names of people in general chat for color by class?
22:23.25FwipI think the only way to get their class is to /who them (which takes a while, so it doesn't do it for everyone in the channel)
22:23.48vhaarrThat's right.
22:24.08DrDreChatMod does it
22:24.13DrDreand it doesnt hurt anything
22:24.15vhaarrThen use ChatMod.
22:24.19chuckgHaha.
22:24.30DrDreI could :P But i wanna use prat
22:24.51vhaarrThen don't whine, and have faith that the prat developers > you.
22:24.54DrDrefeature isnt as useful ifits not gonna do it to everyones name
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22:25.01DrDrestop being a bitch eh?
22:25.53vhaarrhttp://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p1Z-VxC15kmvpjc8yzPURHA o_O
22:29.39TainWow Taco Bell doing a publicity thing trying to get someone to give a PS3 to charity and in return they'll give you 20,000 Taco Bell Bucks
22:29.47grollanyone good with scripts macros? got a lil question in that case
22:30.05vhaarrgroll: Just ask (tm)
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22:30.47grolloki :) well in tbc would it be possible to make a script/macro to check if u got a certain buff, and if you dont have it make it case it and if you didnt have it cast a regular spell? i guess it wont with teh new system right?
22:31.01grollmake it cast...
22:31.05DrDrethat spreadsheet is evil
22:31.09DrDreit crashed me O.o
22:31.15DrDreor else my sys overheated either one
22:32.15grollgod damn i should go to bed my typing sucks lol
22:32.37grollwhat i mean is if you dont have the buff cast the spell, but if u do have the buff cast another spell
22:33.51Arrowmasteranybody around that has a good understanding of the new secure state headers? im not in beta and have a question about them
22:34.28TemI probably have a good enough understanding to answer your question
22:34.50JoshBorkegroll: i'd venture to say no while in combat
22:35.11Sroshand I don't think it'd be possible by macro at all
22:36.04Temgroll, only possible outside of combat
22:36.04Bapsso.. I have a AceOO class that inherits from another predefined class (I'm trying to extend an internal Grid class). I've overridden one method and want it to call the original method and then do a bit of extra work.  When my class runs, I get an undefined
22:36.11Bapsframe error inside of grid itself.
22:36.23Bapsanyone have any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
22:37.10ArrowmasterTem: i understand that you need a key press to change states right? can that key press be linked to casting a spell? to make like a system where you have two buttons to press to cycle threw spells like hunter aspects but make the buttons cast different aspects depending on what your current aspect is?
22:37.58JoshBorkeArrowmaster: you can only make it go a certain way through the aspects.  it is the same as doing a /castsequence <aspect 1>,<aspect 2> etc
22:38.09JoshBorkewell, i lie
22:38.15TemArrowmaster, yes
22:38.28JoshBorkeyea, headers are better than that
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22:39.41ag`_Azurewrath, ping :)
22:39.46Arrowmasterok cool, right now on my hunter alt ive got two macros for three aspects that work in 1.12 and 2.0 but i was wanting to expand them and make it more complex
22:41.23Bapsany AceOO gurus around?
22:41.27Temthe problem you'll have is that when you click the button, you will change states regardless of whether you aspect was successfully cast
22:41.38ag`_Baps, I am kinda familiar with AceOO
22:41.40TemBaps, problems?
22:41.49Bapsag I have a AceOO class that inherits from another predefined class (I'm trying to extend an internal Grid class). I've overridden one method and want it to call the original method and then do a bit of extra work.  When my class runs, I get an undefined
22:41.54Bapsframe error inside of grid itself.
22:42.07BapsI'm apparently doing something wrong.  =)
22:42.11Temsounds like an implementation problem to me
22:42.15CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17708 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files):
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22:42.35Bapsit's only like 20 lines of code.  let me put it up on pastey
22:42.38Temor perhaps you're not passing self
22:43.14ag`_I do classes with subclasses that overwrite original methods fine
22:43.22Temag`, the shaman class color changed in TBC
22:43.34Bapshttp://ace.pastey.net/2630
22:43.34ag`_Tem, I know, I need to extend my table
22:43.38Temno
22:43.40Bapsthere's the code I currently have
22:43.44Temyou need to use RAID_CLASS_COLORS
22:44.06haarmoh ag, I had a problem in parties, with not all the members being shown, forgot to mention it, but maybe you fixed it already
22:44.33haarm(tbc unitframes)
22:44.42vhaarrag`: My problem is that no frames show in the latest agUF.
22:44.53vhaarrag`: I have not tried after your latest commit just now.
22:45.02haarmvhaarr, I had that, but it was fixed by resetting the default profile and relogging
22:45.08vhaarrgah
22:45.15ag`_Baps, I don't think you can do what you're doing
22:45.25ag`_oh wait, sorry
22:45.26ag`_nm
22:45.34haarmwell, relogging several times, which was strange
22:46.18ag`_Tem, I keep a table of the hex color values
22:46.18TemBaps, that needs to be AdjustedGridFrameClass.super.prototype.CreateIndicator(self, indicator)
22:46.39Bapsthe first line of the method?
22:46.48Temyeah
22:47.39ag`_Tem, do you have the hex color of the shaman thingy =)
22:47.54Temno
22:47.58ag`_:'(
22:47.59Bapsthat did the trick.  thanks much
22:48.00TemRAID_CLASS_COLORS does
22:48.07Temnp, Baps
22:48.25Temyou bastards just got me killed
22:48.29CIA-1703rabbit * r17709 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs: Horsemen: Second attempt at sync fix.
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22:49.41ag`_I do print(RAID_CLASS_COLORS.SHAMAN) but that does nothing
22:50.28Temhmm that's odd
22:50.31XuerianDoesn't that print the color code, and thus visually nothing?
22:50.33TemRCC used to have hex info
22:51.01vhaarrBabble-Class-2.2 has methods for getting the colors, I believe, and so does PaintChips or that other library.
22:51.03grolltem ok darn but thanks
22:51.06JoshBorkebye all!
22:51.08vhaarrCrayonLib
22:51.12Xueriancya JoshBorke.
22:51.47ag`_ah I need to print .r .g .b
22:51.49vhaarrindeed
22:52.08vhaarrBabbleClass:GetHexColor(class)
22:52.19ag`_shaman color = r = 0, g= 0.86
22:52.22vhaarrBabbleClass:GetColor(class) returns {r, g, b}
22:52.26ag`_b = 0.73
22:52.31Azurewrathag`_: you still need me in tbc? :)
22:52.37ag`_Azurewrath, two secs
22:52.41Azurewrathnp
22:52.42ag`_I need to change your color
22:52.47ag`_:P
22:53.09Azurewrathhehe right.. the Shaman Color is now somewhat greenish, isn't it?
22:53.11Arrowmasterag, just rewrite your table of the hex colors as a metatable that calculates it from RAID_CLASS_COLORS and caches it
22:56.02ag`_Azurewrath, teal now
22:56.12CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17710 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_Variables.lua:
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22:56.27ag`_Arrowmaster, I had that back in the days, but from time to time it would give me an error
22:56.49ag`_I don't know why
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22:57.04ag`_like the R_C_C table was nil
22:57.09ag`_very strange
22:57.23Arrowmasteryeah
23:01.31haarmis there a bugsack for tbc? checked branches etc.
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23:02.01haarmor will changing the toc of the non tbc work
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23:05.01CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17711 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_Variables.lua):
23:05.01CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
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23:05.05haarmok ag, small bug with current tbc agUF, the on hover highlight for my 2nd group member is...
23:05.09haarmdid you just fix that?
23:05.10haarm:p
23:05.21ag`_I don't think so
23:05.29haarmok, it's a tiny square in the middle of the unitframe
23:05.45ag`_o_O
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23:05.51haarmneed a screenshot? :p
23:05.59ag`_sure
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23:12.48CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r17712 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
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23:14.41Azurewrathag`: mhm btw.. is the bug fixed which resets the color of the HP bar to green/100% sometimes, even when it should be yellowish/red? :)
23:14.41NinjaChimp;(
23:14.55haarmoops sorry, was getting an instance group
23:15.21haarmag: http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/9104/buggerbf5.jpg
23:16.31haarmonly happens on the 2nd party member, all the others are fine
23:17.43haarmand fixed with a reloadui, but still strange it happened in the first place
23:20.02KirkburnLooks like the texture wasn't stretched properly
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23:30.46leech2khmm
23:32.20Temag`, imo you shouldn't offset the first unit from the anchor
23:33.58CIA-1703leech * r17714 10/tags/dgks/: Created folder remotely
23:34.33CIA-1703leech 0711200.0.06 * r17715 10dgks/: Copied remotely
23:35.24CIA-1703leech * r17716 10/tags/11200.0.06/: Removed file/folder
23:35.25leech2ksorry guys tag hit the wrong dir had to move it :-)
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23:39.57Kaeltenhows the life?
23:40.59AntiarcI'm so disappointed that guild name limits are so short.
23:41.11AntiarcI want my draenei shaman to have a new guild.
23:41.14Antiarc<Cultural Learnings of Azeroth for Make Great Benefit Glorious Planet-fragment of Draenor>
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23:43.10Temoh hmm
23:43.17Temso it's a header issue
23:43.35ag`Tem: what?
23:43.44Temmeh nothing
23:43.51TemI was going to complain about groups
23:43.57Tembut it's Esamynn's fault
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23:49.43Temok, it's not changeable on his side, so you just to fake it on your end
23:49.46Temag`, poke
23:52.14nevcairielhave the errors with the targetoftarget in agUF TBC been fixed yet?
23:53.27kergothTem, http://ace.pastey.net/2632 - fun with recursion :)
23:54.14KarlThePagannev I've been using agUF recently, what's the error?
23:54.35nevcairielit just spams errors when using the targetoftarget frame
23:54.38nevcairielwell
23:54.40nevcairielused to
23:54.46nevcairielhavent used in about a week
23:54.57KarlThePaganyea I'd say that's not present... lemme check my revision
23:55.00Temkergoth, pure evil
23:55.00CIA-1703totalpackage * r17717 10InFlight/ (Defaults.lua Frame.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc):
23:55.00CIA-17InFlight:
23:55.00CIA-17- externals...
23:55.00CIA-17- code cleanup
23:55.01CIA-17- added Devla's new data for future reference
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23:56.17kergothTem, :)
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23:57.12KarlThePagannevcairiel i'm using r17511[TBC]
23:57.20*** part/#wowace [nd] (n=nd@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at)
23:58.25nevcairielwill try it again tomorrow

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