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`00:01.06`	`Wraithan`	`Any recommended sites for DL'ing the 1.12.0 full patch?`
`00:01.19`	`Saroz`	`What's that ignite tracker you see on screenshots everywhere?`
`00:01.20`	`Saroz`	`anyone now?`
`00:01.22`	`Saroz`	`know*`
`00:01.39`	`nymbia`	`Wraithan: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/`
`00:01.56`	`Wraithan`	`just found that site :D`
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`00:02.18`	`Wraithan`	`too many people... wtf`
`00:02.41`	`Wraithan`	`ahh there is the torrent icon`
`00:02.41`	`Kirkburn`	`Uh, you sure?`
`00:03.05`	`Kirkburn`	`I mean, it says nearly 700 out of 700 dl slots are open`
`00:03.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Make that 800/800`
`00:03.21`	`Deviad`	`http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jamA5k20.html`
`00:03.54`	`Deviad`	`Hey guys, what does "if (a[i])" do?`
`00:04.04`	`Deviad`	`in both cases`
`00:04.44`	`Wraithan`	`if the i'th element of a[] is not 0 do what ever is in the if statement`
`00:04.58`	`Tovort`	`first it assumes that all elements of a are prime`
`00:05.20`	`Tovort`	`so the first check is a filter to only check those which have not been proven to not be prime`
`00:05.34`	`Tovort`	`the second checks is only for output`
`00:06.32`	`CIA-17`	`03nargiddley 07TBC * r17515 10MainAssist/MainAssist/ (. MainAssist.xml):`
`00:06.32`	`CIA-17`	`MainAssist:`
`00:06.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated Externals to TBC libs`
`00:06.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Added missing file`
`00:08.27`	`Wraithan`	`Hmm blizzard client said I was 62% done, utorrent says only 33.7%`
`00:11.47`	`Saroz`	`I wish I had more space on my screen, damn healing class`
`00:11.57`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17516 10PinPoint/ (Collect/Herbalism.lua Display/WorldMap.lua):`
`00:11.57`	`CIA-17`	`PinPoint:`
`00:11.57`	`CIA-17`	`* Add tooltips to the world map notes.`
`00:11.58`	`CIA-17`	`* Move RegisterIcons to OnInitialize, as you wouldn't want to register the icons again if the addon were put on standby and made active again.`
`00:11.58`	`CIA-17`	`* Add Felweed to the icons table, for TBC.`
`00:11.59`	`CIA-17`	`* Fix a couple iterations to use pairs().`
`00:12.25`	`mjc`	`god damn`
`00:12.30`	`mjc`	`UC is more confusing than org`
`00:12.54`	`Wraithan`	`Neither is very confusing unless you are new to them heh`
`00:13.03`	`kergoth`	`i like uc, at least it has a central hub`
`00:13.25`	`Wraithan`	`I don't like how long it takes to get to anything in UC though`
`00:13.48`	`kergoth`	`what bugs me is the fact that uc only has one mailbox.`
`00:13.59`	`kergoth`	`org at least has the one in the drag, which is closer to the anvil and stuff`
`00:14.06`	`Wraithan`	`Does TB have more than one`
`00:14.08`	`Wraithan`	`?`
`00:17.57`	`ckknight`	`I like TB`
`00:18.42`	`ckknight`	`I don't think so, Wraithan`
`00:19.10`	`Wraithan`	`That is what I though, just what kergoth said made me think if it had 2 or not`
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`00:27.47`	`ckknight_`	`kergoth, you added a :RegisterIcons to Cartographer-Notes?`
`00:28.50`	`ckknight`	`(I'm not angry or anything if you did)`
`00:29.22`	`mjc`	`think he did`
`00:29.31`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:29.31`	`ckknight`	`fair enough`
`00:29.51`	`mjc`	`it's pretty hot now`
`00:30.04`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`00:30.13`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r17517 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: Skinner: update locals for koKR`
`00:35.20`	`kergoth`	`hm?`
`00:35.39`	`kergoth`	`that commit log was about pinpoint, not cart`
`00:35.49`	`kergoth`	`it maintains a herb name -> herb icon table`
`00:36.17`	`ckknight`	`ah, okay`
`00:36.40`	`Wraithan`	`So no bag organizer mods written with Ace yet... =/`
`00:36.48`	`ckknight`	`Wraithan, MrPlow`
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`00:49.44`	`mjc`	`mrplow zip = farked`
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`00:50.37`	`Saroz`	`zips = 60% farked`
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`00:51.17`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r17518 10Fizzle/FizzleLocale-koKR.lua:`
`00:51.17`	`CIA-17`	`Fizzle:`
`00:51.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Update koKR`
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`00:56.30`	`Kalamadi`	`I have to read the fine print in the warrantys more often`
`00:57.23`	`Kalamadi`	`The warranty on my monitor does not cover damage caused by "natural acts of God."`
`00:59.48`	`ckknight`	`?`
`01:02.26`	Funkeh`	`its definately 'definite' not 'definate'? :P`
`01:03.05`	`mjc`	`definite`
`01:03.17`	Funkeh`	`ty ^^`
`01:04.08`	`mjc`	`osx has spellcheck in every text input area`
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`01:07.53`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r17519 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua sRaidFrames.lua):`
`01:07.53`	`CIA-17`	`sRaidFrames:`
`01:07.54`	`CIA-17`	`- Added "Renew" as a status`
`01:07.54`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed localization for some of the spells to use Babble Spell instead of local translation, since it outputs the same.`
`01:12.36`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17520 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2 : Updated locals koKR`
`01:13.33`	`mjc`	`ding 7`
`01:13.43`	`Tekkub`	`anyone got the hex for shaman-teal handy?`
`01:16.53`	`mjc`	`not I`
`01:18.59`	`mjc`	`farkin zip script hardly works`
`01:19.54`	Funkeh`	`it does work, it just takes days off sometimes`
`01:23.25`	`mjc`	`you mean transatlantic piggyback rides?`
`01:24.14`	Funkeh`	`rofl`
`01:24.19`	Funkeh`	`creative :)`
`01:26.36`	`pastamancer`	`Tekkub: RAID_CLASS_COLORS["SHAMAN"]`
`01:26.48`	`Tekkub`	`I said hex bitch`
`01:26.51`	`Tekkub`	`and I already found it`
`01:26.55`	`pastamancer`	`:p`
`01:30.05`	`ckknight`	`string.format("%02x%02x%02x", RAID_CLASS_COLORS.SHAMAN.r255, RAID_CLASS_COLORS.SHAMAN.g255, RAID_CLASS_COLORS.SHAMAN.b*255)`
`01:30.09`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17521 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua: BigWigs: AQ40/Ouro: Fix deDE, still needs translated though`
`01:30.10`	`ckknight`	`there, hex`
`01:40.17`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17522 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2 : Updated locals koKR(Spell) - by turtl`
`01:46.14`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r17523 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: Add option to skip group 8 from the spore rotation - Useful for a MT group`
`01:47.16`	`Saroz`	`-.-`
`01:47.25`	`mjc`	`ding 8`
`01:47.27`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r17524 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: Remove debug leftover`
`01:48.31`	`Saroz`	`BigWigs_SendTell shouldn't send tells if the target is himself -.-`
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`01:54.35`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17525 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua:`
`01:54.36`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: AQ40/Ouro: Now has 2 submerge bars and warnings 90/180sec`
`01:54.36`	`CIA-17`	`removed repeating 90sec bar, should fix seeing submerge after berserk`
`01:54.36`	`CIA-17`	`clarify 2nd submerge is guaranteed`
`01:54.36`	`CIA-17`	`somewhat untested, also needs translating`
`01:54.38`	`Gngsk`	`or if the target is a pet`
`01:55.04`	`Gngsk`	`one of our hunters pet's name warsaw, some poor rogue is always getting spammed 'You have the plague!'`
`01:55.42`	Funkeh`	`Gngsk: lol`
`01:56.12`	`Saroz`	`piss easy to add :p`
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`01:56.47`	`kergoth`	`sheesh, still not level 61`
`01:58.45`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r17526 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua localization.lua): Sanity2: Added tag deletion to the dropdown to allow for cleanup of tags on items that you no longer possess. Added menus to allow you to untag items you don't have individual access to.`
`02:00.29`	`Antiar1`	`<3 Dewdrop`
`02:01.06`	`mjc`	`blah`
`02:01.14`	`mjc`	`not very successful with bottomfeeder lately.`
`02:01.19`	`mjc`	`anyone have any tips? :P`
`02:04.28`	`kergoth`	`School rocks.`
`02:05.18`	Funkeh`	`kergoth: i wish i had that enthusiasm when i attended`
`02:05.25`	`Saroz`	`lol`
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`02:05.49`	`kergoth`	`pfft, not that school :)`
`02:07.16`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r17527 10Comercio/ (Comercio.toc koKR.lua):`
`02:07.16`	`CIA-17`	`Comercio:`
`02:07.16`	`CIA-17`	`- add locals for koKR`
`02:09.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`so whats with BigWigs being 'disabled' every time i login now and having to click the fubar icon to enable it`
`02:10.04`	`pastamancer`	`I believe Bigwigs is load-on-demand now`
`02:11.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`well the core is always loaded when i login and all the bossmods are still in 'BigWigs' and get loaded with the core but its 'disabled' until i click the icon`
`02:11.14`	Funkeh`	`Arrowmaster: simply saves memory when your not using it, but you can enable it manually :)`
`02:11.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i HAD to enable it manually in a raid earlyer`
`02:11.49`	Funkeh`	`it should automatically enable when you join raid`
`02:11.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`it didnt`
`02:12.01`	`pastamancer`	`do you have S&D?`
`02:12.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`yes`
`02:12.17`	`pastamancer`	`no idea then`
`02:12.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`and BigWigs isnt LoD`
`02:12.37`	Funkeh`	`no the instances and tools are`
`02:12.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`from what i see its a LoD loader now`
`02:13.02`	Funkeh`	`run the .bat file and its lod :)`
`02:13.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah i noticed nef count was now LoD and im guessing it will load when i step into bwl`
`02:13.12`	Funkeh`	`aye`
`02:13.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`but bigwigs was still in a 'disabled' state when i steped into AQ40`
`02:13.58`	Funkeh`	`i have no idea why that would be :D`
`02:17.37`	Funkeh`	`ouch how did cartographer jump to 1mb usage? :P`
`02:21.31`	`kergoth`	`instance maps and instance notes`
`02:21.50`	`kergoth`	`it isnt a meg though, warmup is deceptive unless you have it doing a bunch of full gc cycles`
`02:21.57`	`kergoth`	`its around 560KiB`
`02:22.26`	`nymbia`	`plus, that stuff's gonna be LoD soon`
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`02:25.09`	Funkeh`	`sweet :)`
`02:25.31`	Funkeh`	`and i dont think its that deceptive, i dont use externals so thats discounted`
`02:28.39`	Funkeh`	`swstats is my last real 'big' addon. i dont like the way it saves all the results all the time, just racks up the memory usage, nuking all the time is a pain.`
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`02:29.15`	`mjc`	`take out the savedvar ?`
`02:29.23`	`mjc`	`or just don't use it`
`02:29.39`	`mjc`	`those kidn of stat things are nothing more than a rough estimation`
`02:30.09`	`mjc`	`~seen vhaar`
`02:30.52`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'vhaar', mjc`
`02:30.52`	`Silviu-`	`Yeah i had DamageMetters, then Swstats then again dmm`
`02:30.52`	Funkeh`	`rough estimation or not 3mb is pretty big :D`
`02:30.53`	`Silviu-`	`Then hmm... i decided no need sumth like that :)`
`02:30.58`	`mjc`	`wtf`
`02:31.00`	`mjc`	`what happened to purl`
`02:31.08`	Funkeh`	`~seen vhaarr`
`02:31.51`	`purl`	`vhaarr <n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 8m 6s ago, saying: 'Kemayo: You hook ChatFrame_MessageHandler now.'.`
`02:31.51`	`mjc`	`doh`
`02:31.51`	Funkeh`	`^^`
`02:31.51`	`mjc`	`id10t error obviously`
`02:31.51`	Funkeh`	`;p`
`02:31.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive been using dmm forever, tried swstats once but didnt like it, and i alway keep dmm paused when not using it and clear it before logging out so it doesnt save any data`
`02:33.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`so is warmup going to die with wow 2.0 since the new gc will always make the numbers incorrect? or do you think we'll atleast have a version with load times`
`02:35.00`	Funkeh`	`i tried dmm and it shows it as only ~1mb, kinda better than 3 Oo. but im not changing my whole guild to dmm now :D swstats is in beta anyway.`
`02:35.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`make sure your checking size with no previous data saved and being loaded`
`02:36.27`	Funkeh`	`with dmm blank its about 1mb and sws blank its about 2.4`
`02:39.02`	`chuckg`	`The problem that I see w/t he SwStats beta right now is that it keeps a history of all your data as you clear it.`
`02:39.08`	`chuckg`	`So in DM, when you "reset" the data is dumped.`
`02:39.20`	`chuckg`	`In SWStats, it takes all that data and dumps it into a timeline, then creates a new data set to fill.`
`02:39.23`	`chuckg`	`But it never gets cleared.`
`02:39.34`	`chuckg`	`So you have this never ending timeline that gets larger and larger and larger.`
`02:39.36`	Funkeh`	`thats exactly what i hate`
`02:39.45`	`chuckg`	`I had a guildmate w/ a 29 mb saved variables file for his SW Stats.`
`02:39.55`	Funkeh`	`i just want it cleared when i clear it, not to 'nuke' it all the time`
`02:39.59`	`chuckg`	`He didn't now why his memory was getting larget and larger.`
`02:40.27`	`chuckg`	`The timeline needs to just clear when you logout and the problem is solved.`
`02:40.31`	`mjc`	`cartographer and gratuity need toc bumps`
`02:40.52`	`mjc`	`er sorry`
`02:40.58`	`mjc`	`cart's is 20000 or something`
`02:40.59`	Funkeh`	`orly?`
`02:41.03`	`mjc`	`gratuity's needs a bump`
`02:42.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`while i find the idea of syncing damage done while allowing everybody to clear it whenever they want and not have it effect everybody elses, i think the way thats implemented is a bit weird and overly complex`
`02:42.31`	Funkeh`	`gratuity says 20000`
`02:43.09`	`mjc`	`ah, early bump then`
`02:43.11`	`mjc`	`my bad :)`
`02:43.11`	Funkeh`	`yeah arrow you cant win tbh :P`
`02:44.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`i also dont understand why the authors of ktm and swstats dont want to use parserlib because they think their parsers are fine, its like they dont even understand the purpose that parserlib was made for`
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`02:46.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`not saying i dont think they have a reason not to, just that i dont like their reason`
`02:48.24`	`Silviu-`	`500 - Internal Server Error`
`02:49.12`	Funkeh`	`i wouldnt say they are inefficient, for some mods there is no real benefit apart from the '1 library' perspective. which they dont really care because they only use the 1 addon. it would be nice but ultimately its their decision whether they want their code or someone elses code`
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`02:49.38`	`Vanish`	`Can anyone recommend an Ace2 alternative to Autobar?`
`02:49.51`	`Vanish`	`I'd look online but WowAce is giving 500s`
`02:50.19`	`Azurewrath`	`Consumer or XAD i'd guess`
`02:50.36`	`Vanish`	`Is that was XAD is?`
`02:50.40`	`Vanish`	`ty`
`02:51.06`	`Vanish`	`AutoBar and Cartographer_Instanceotes keep blowing up on me`
`02:51.24`	`mjc`	`instancenotes is integrated`
`02:51.57`	Funkeh`	`blowing up? :P`
`02:52.02`	`mjc`	`ding 9`
`02:52.58`	Funkeh`	`up early tomorow so nn folks :)`
`02:53.34`	`Antiar1`	`Is there a way to access a standard confirmation dialog with a custom question?`
`02:53.47`	`Antiar1`	`Rather than rolling my own. I kinda doubt it, but I figure I'd ask.`
`02:54.43`	`Antiar1`	`Nevermind, found it. StaticPopup_Show`
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`03:08.36`	`kergoth`	`Vanish, kill the seperate Cartographer_InstanceNotes addon and upgrade cartographer`
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`03:17.56`	`mjc`	`kergoth: queue on suramar :(`
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`03:18.40`	`Zyphr`	`=P`
`03:19.01`	`mjc`	`what now`
`03:19.14`	`Zyphr`	`:?`
`03:21.23`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r17528 10Sanity2/ (4 files): Sanity2: Fixed an invalid data in alt character data problem. Fixed a problem with soulbound flag filtering. Added character deletion. Fixed am infinite recursing loop on translated index lookup.`
`03:22.30`	`Vanish`	`Sorry. Had a phone call`
`03:22.47`	`Vanish`	`So InstanceNotes is integrated now? Cool`
`03:23.36`	`Vanish`	`As for AtuoBar, yeah it blows up. Missing a Periodic Table embed I think`
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`03:24.53`	`Vanish`	`Bah. Syntax error in latest Fizzle...`
`03:25.36`	`Gnarfoz`	`autobar is ace2, though?`
`03:26.07`	`Vanish`	`It said it was on the addons page`
`03:27.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`is visor (from trunk) working with 2.0?`
`03:28.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`need to hide that ugly worldmap minimap-button and move the standard buff frames :\`
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`03:29.56`	`kergoth`	`Gnarfoz, no, it isnt. someone mentioned they had started working on a 2.0 version though`
`03:30.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`:(`
`03:30.36`	`Daklu`	`quick question for the experienced programmers here...`
`03:31.07`	`Daklu`	`I've been trying to figure out how to change the background color of my FuBar plugin. The signature is :SetColor(parent, r, g, b)`
`03:31.35`	`Daklu`	`how do I figure out what the parent is?`
`03:32.45`	`mjc`	`carefully`
`03:34.10`	`Gngsk`	`f:GetParent() ?`
`03:35.45`	`Daklu`	`That was my first thought, but I haven't been able to find that function at wowwiki. I done almost nothing with the widget api -- do you know if that function exists?`
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`03:36.10`	`Daklu`	`duh... just found that fct.`
`03:38.35`	`Daklu`	`'course, there's no info on that function, and since my enitre addon is in lua with ace2 library files, I don't have any idea which region to call that function on.`
`03:39.13`	`nymbia`	`it'll get the parent for any region.`
`03:39.15`	`Vanish`	`Hmm.. Fizzle prevents me from being able to use the keyboard. Heh. Gotta track down that bad brace`
`03:39.53`	`nymbia`	`and that return is the entire frame, so you can do (for instance) frame:GetParent():GetName()`
`03:42.46`	`Daklu`	`the problem is that I don't know the frame name to use to call :GetParent. My frame is a Tablet instantiation (local tablet = AceLibrary("Tablet-2.0")), so I tried the obvious ("tablet") but it's not working.`
`03:43.51`	`Daklu`	`I can't find any other examples of FuBar plugins that change background color, and the Tablet API documentation assumes I know more than I do. ;)`
`03:44.10`	`CIA-17`	`03sayclub * r17529 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc Modules/InstanceNotes/koKR.lua): Cartographer - Update koKR`
`03:45.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`Daklu, not sure if it will help but Skinner changes the background colors in fubar tooltips`
`03:45.35`	`Daklu`	`thx arrowmaster. I'll look into that.`
`03:53.27`	`kergoth`	`Vanish, fizzle is missing a , in a few table delcarations. coding without testing ftl`
`03:53.57`	`Vanish`	`LOL`
`03:54.06`	`Vanish`	`Which file?`
`03:54.41`	`kergoth`	`a couple of them`
`03:54.48`	`kergoth`	`just look on the lines that are erroring`
`03:55.15`	`Vanish`	`I'll have to look tomorrow then. I removed it and I'm running an instance`
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`04:01.03`	`DrDre`	`is there a command/function to basically do what the Tab key does?`
`04:01.32`	`DrDre`	`I want to make a function that basically presses tab if no target currently`
`04:01.56`	Arrowmaster`	`TargetNearistEnemy()?`
`04:02.00`	`DrDre`	`thx`
`04:02.06`	`Gngsk`	`spell it correctly :P`
`04:02.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`...`
`04:02.25`	`Gngsk`	`Nearest`
`04:02.28`	`DrDre`	`and would if(UnitName("target") != 0) { } work for the no target?`
`04:02.33`	`DrDre`	`""* not 0`
`04:02.55`	`Gngsk`	`nil prolly`
`04:02.59`	`DrDre`	`k`
`04:03.24`	`Gngsk`	`but if you want it to function exactly like tab you'd just do TargetNearestEnemy()`
`04:03.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`just if (UnitName("target")) { }`
`04:03.39`	`DrDre`	`k`
`04:03.41`	`Nargiddley`	`UnitExists("target") is what you want`
`04:03.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah true`
`04:04.29`	`DrDre`	`if(!UnitExists("target")) { works in lua right?`
`04:04.34`	`Gngsk`	`no`
`04:04.37`	`DrDre`	`or is "not exists" different`
`04:04.41`	`Gngsk`	`just do what arrow said`
`04:04.56`	`Nargiddley`	`if not UnitExists("target") then something end`
`04:04.57`	`DrDre`	`I want If there is no target`
`04:05.06`	`DrDre`	`ah figured it was not prefix`
`04:06.15`	`DrDre`	`function FindTarget() {if(not UnitExists("target")) { TargetNearestEnemy(); } }`
`04:06.27`	`DrDre`	`hm heard an error on reload`
`04:06.49`	`nymbia`	`that'd be`
`04:06.50`	`Nargiddley`	`function FindTarget() if not UnitExists("target") then TargetNearestEnemy() end end`
`04:06.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`you dont need ;'s at all`
`04:06.55`	`nymbia`	`yeah that`
`04:07.11`	`DrDre`	`oh`
`04:08.01`	`DrDre`	`the ; hasnt caused problems on other lines :P its good habit to keep them!`
`04:08.06`	`DrDre`	`k that line fixed it`
`04:08.16`	`Nargiddley`	`doesnt cause problems, but not needed`
`04:08.27`	`DrDre`	`what part of my orig line caused the error O.o?`
`04:08.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`no end's`
`04:08.37`	`Nargiddley`	`lua doesnt use { }`
`04:08.39`	`DrDre`	`dont use if() { } syntax?`
`04:08.40`	`DrDre`	`ah`
`04:08.41`	`Nargiddley`	`except for tables`
`04:08.47`	`DrDre`	`im a php coder ._. its all habit lol`
`04:09.56`	`DrDre`	`working perfectly :D thx`
`04:10.05`	`DrDre`	`i put it in my SS macro >_>`
`04:10.11`	`DrDre`	`to help with farming SM lol`
`04:10.25`	`pastamancer`	`hitting SS with no target automatically targets nearest`
`04:10.30`	`DrDre`	`not always`
`04:10.33`	`DrDre`	`lot of time does`
`04:10.39`	`pastamancer`	`well, nearest in range at least`
`04:10.41`	`DrDre`	`but thats why i came to do this, sometimes its not`
`04:10.45`	`DrDre`	`even with mob right in front of me`
`04:10.48`	`DrDre`	`i dunno why its not :/`
`04:11.03`	`DrDre`	`ive got my logitech G15 to spam SS for me >_>`
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`04:11.16`	`kergoth`	`; is completely unnecessary, gains you nothing in 99.99999% of all cases :P`
`04:11.46`	`DrDre`	`yes but when you code in other languages that require it IE PHP, my profession :) Then its good habit to not stop typing it else id fuck up in php and forget it :P`
`04:11.56`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17530 10Sniff/Bindings.xml:`
`04:11.56`	`CIA-17`	`Sniff:`
`04:11.56`	`CIA-17`	`- Added category header for binding.`
`04:12.19`	`kebinusan`	`There is probably some lua beatifier you can run the code through to remove them if you want`
`04:12.28`	`kebinusan`	`hell you can do it with a regular expression`
`04:12.42`	`DrDre`	`its needed when doing multiple commands on 1 line is it not? like /script lines in macros`
`04:12.49`	`nymbia`	`DrDre: nope`
`04:12.53`	`DrDre`	`ah`
`04:13.09`	`DrDre`	`damn lua must be smart on parsing that then O.o`
`04:13.16`	`nymbia`	`yeah`
`04:13.26`	`kergoth`	`it just has a clean well done grammar`
`04:13.33`	`kergoth`	`once thats in place, the parsing is easy`
`04:13.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtf is this Extras\Discovery.lua in the BigWigs toc that doesnt exist.....`
`04:13.55`	`kergoth`	`meh`
`04:14.00`	`DrDre`	`alright well thx for info, back to farming, i almost passed up a Mark of Kern >_> Noticed i forgot a mob to loot and it was on it :P`
`04:15.04`	`kebinusan`	`anyone know how to fix aguf so you can right click on a pet and dismiss actually works in TBC`
`04:16.08`	`Gngsk`	`/run PetDismiss()`
`04:16.38`	`Gnarfoz`	`s can anyone point me to where I can find those few lines of code that create a backdrop I put behind my chat boxes, actionbars etc? I can't find it :<`
`04:16.39`	`kebinusan`	`<3`
`04:17.09`	`kebinusan`	`hmm /run PetDismiss() gives this has been blocked by the bliz ui thing`
`04:17.24`	`kebinusan`	`err only available to bliz ui`
`04:17.39`	`Gngsk`	`o_O`
`04:18.14`	`kebinusan`	`yea`
`04:18.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`try /petdismiss`
`04:19.23`	`kebinusan`	`no command /petdismiss`
`04:19.26`	`kebinusan`	`or anything similar`
`04:19.47`	`kebinusan`	`and warlocks dont get a spell for it like hunters`
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`04:20.22`	`Gngsk`	`oh, you're a warlock?`
`04:20.47`	`thalie`	`<cough> nerf warlocks <cough>`
`04:21.00`	`Gngsk`	`just start to summon another pet and interrupt it`
`04:21.00`	`kebinusan`	`pff`
`04:21.07`	`kebinusan`	`doesnt work in the beta`
`04:21.14`	`kebinusan`	`the pet stays till the summon is compelte`
`04:22.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`hellfire`
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`04:33.59`	`DrDre`	`i wanna fix theorycraft`
`04:34.07`	`DrDre`	`it wont show max damage on the buttons like it says >_>`
`04:34.17`	`kergoth`	`i want a bar addon that behaves itself`
`04:34.27`	`DrDre`	`lol`
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`04:34.50`	`DrDre`	`if i tell it to put Avg dmg on my buttons it says SS does 315 vs this pally boss thing in SM`
`04:34.56`	`DrDre`	`if i tell it to put Max dmg... it says 273....`
`04:34.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`i want a good unitframe mod with portraits that doesnt lag`
`04:35.15`	`DrDre`	`ag lags >_>?`
`04:35.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`try disabling the armor calculations`
`04:35.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`ag lowered my framerate`
`04:35.42`	`DrDre`	`armor is calced into average too`
`04:36.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`crits are also calculated into average`
`04:36.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think`
`04:36.51`	`DrDre`	`im sure my max SS isnt 273 :P`
`04:36.55`	`DrDre`	`thats more like my min >_>`
`04:37.02`	`Daklu`	`ckknight: How do I set the background color of a FuBar plugin? I've tried using tablet:SetColor, but I have no idea what the parent frame is.`
`04:37.20`	`DrDre`	`oh wait 273 is what it is on tooltip`
`04:37.29`	`DrDre`	`why isnt it adding in AP/Agi etc?`
`04:37.35`	`DrDre`	`like it does on avg`
`04:37.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`its bugged?`
`04:38.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`Daklu, do you know the name of the frame?`
`04:38.26`	`Daklu`	`nope. that's the problem. the frames are set up by tablet and aren't given to me.`
`04:40.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have no clue if this will work but mouseover the frame and type /script print(GetMouseFocus():GetName())`
`04:43.19`	`Daklu`	`I did try something similar to that using debugtools, but at this point I'll try anything...`
`04:53.06`	`Silviu-`	`http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4369/wowscrnshot110206205837pi4.jpg lol 124 MB`
`04:53.07`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`04:53.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`not supprising considering how much crap is running`
`04:54.33`	`Gngsk`	`titan panel owns you`
`04:54.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`that wasnt what i was refering too`
`04:54.54`	`Silviu-`	`At his FPS i think he have an increasing of ~150`
`04:54.54`	`Silviu-`	`:)`
`04:55.06`	`ckknight_`	`titan panel ftl.`
`04:55.16`	`Gngsk`	`FTW!!!`
`04:55.34`	`ckknight_`	`don't make me devoice you!`
`04:55.39`	`Gngsk`	`I have a voice?`
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`04:55.57`	`ckknight`	`no, not really.`
`04:56.03`	`ckknight`	`no one has voice`
`04:56.19`	`ckknight`	`thus the devoicing was entirely pointless and arbitrary`
`04:56.24`	`Gngsk`	`you could mass voice, then set +m, then devoice me`
`04:56.32`	`ckknight`	`we've done that before.`
`04:56.33`	`Silviu-`	`:>`
`04:56.53`	`Gngsk`	`I was only joking though`
`04:57.04`	`ckknight`	`yea, we wouldn't do that to you`
`04:57.11`	`ckknight`	`you've done nothing that unworthy.`
`04:59.22`	`ckknight`	`you're good in my book, Gngsk`
`04:59.56`	`kergoth`	`think i might do a little cartographer poi module that can record the locations that guards direct you to in cities, the way the metamap addon does. can be useful`
`05:00.00`	`kergoth`	`should be nothing to it`
`05:00.06`	`ckknight`	`cool, kergoth`
`05:00.17`	`ckknight`	`btw, I'm _finally_ installing WoW!`
`05:00.20`	`ckknight`	`it downloaded properly!`
`05:00.23`	`Gngsk`	`huzzah!`
`05:00.26`	`kergoth`	`hooray`
`05:02.50`	`kergoth`	`anyone know if bliz changed the attack power formulas for the classes in tbc, or if its the same?`
`05:03.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`RAP got changed for everybody (hunters rogues warriors) and not just hunters from what ive heard`
`05:03.27`	`Gngsk`	`RAP changed for hunters`
`05:03.32`	`Gngsk`	`ahh`
`05:04.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think warriors atleast`
`05:04.22`	`kergoth`	`anyone tested in game to determine the new formulas?`
`05:04.29`	`kergoth`	`does wowwiki have a tbc formulas section yet? :)`
`05:05.54`	`CIA-17`	`03ruinna * r17531 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (OutfitterFu.lua README.txt): FuBar_OutfitterFu: removed game tooltip hack`
`05:06.56`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`bah`
`05:07.03`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`ackbar doesnt work with stance changes`
`05:07.45`	`kergoth`	`:(`
`05:08.02`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`and trinitys key bindings are all screwed up`
`05:08.05`	`kergoth`	`none of the bar addons are quite where they need to be. course itd help if blizzard would get their act together wrt keybindings`
`05:17.02`	`Tem`	`what do you mean, kergoth ?`
`05:18.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`bartender3 works ok-ish, except that bar 2-5 are not working`
`05:20.25`	`CIA-17`	`03yhwh * r17532 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc: FuBar_ExperienceFu:Modify a mistake about zhCN`
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`05:30.04`	`Antiar1`	`Is there something to replace the WDB cache files in TBC?`
`05:31.59`	`kergoth`	`Tem, well, there's the bug that makes it so you can no longer move... waiting through the full 20 second logout solves it, as does wiping the bindings cache..`
`05:32.22`	`Tem`	`?`
`05:32.28`	`Tem`	`I haven't encountered that one yet`
`05:32.42`	`kergoth`	`i've hit it probably 6-8 times today alone`
`05:32.47`	`kergoth`	`with and without any addons`
`05:32.55`	`kergoth`	`persists across executions`
`05:33.57`	`kergoth`	`pretty odd`
`05:34.20`	`Antiar1`	`Hm. Is Blizzard no longer keeping WDB files on the client?`
`05:34.56`	`kergoth`	`Antiar1, is Data/enUS/WDB it?`
`05:34.58`	`Antiar1`	`Because, err, I have no WDBs being updated, and if I exit the client, log in with a character, and try to pull up an item that I saw in my previous session but haven't seen in my current session, I get nulls.`
`05:34.59`	`kergoth`	`looks liek it]`
`05:35.05`	`Antiar1`	`kergoth: I'd expect so, but it's not updating.`
`05:35.07`	`kergoth`	`weird`
`05:35.17`	`Antiar1`	`Timestamp on it is 11/15`
`05:36.14`	`Antiar1`	`If you nuke that folder, it doesn't get recreated`
`05:36.23`	`Antiar1`	`And it pulls all your items from the server on login`
`05:36.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`eep that kinda sucks`
`05:36.30`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17533 10SpellBinder/ (Bindings.xml SpellBinder-enUS.lua SpellBinder.lua):`
`05:36.31`	`CIA-17`	`SpellBinder:`
`05:36.31`	`CIA-17`	`- Less hideous.`
`05:36.31`	`CIA-17`	`- Added key binding. Kinda a pain to type out /spellbind toggle every time.`
`05:36.31`	`CIA-17`	`- Warns if you're about to overwrite another binding.`
`05:36.31`	`CIA-17`	`- Much better support for double key bindings.`
`05:36.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Now lists all macros instead of making you type in the name.`
`05:36.40`	`Antiar1`	`I'm wondering if they killed it for the stress test weekend`
`05:36.45`	`Antiar1`	`To put more stress on the servers`
`05:36.54`	`Antiar1`	`But it kinda sucks for me :P`
`05:37.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`you logging into ptr or beta?`
`05:37.08`	`Antiar1`	`beta`
`05:37.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`dont think it has anything to do with stress test unless theres a beta stress test`
`05:37.59`	`Antiar1`	`There kinda is`
`05:38.04`	`Antiar1`	`The 5 hour contest thing`
`05:38.11`	`Antiar1`	`General consensus is that it's a stress test`
`05:38.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`beta is a completely different build than ptr`
`05:38.16`	`Antiar1`	`I know`
`05:38.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh that`
`05:38.30`	`Antiar1`	`And judging by the lag this weekend, I suspect that they are finding what their limits are :P`
`05:38.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`would be nice if the ptr actually worked....`
`05:39.02`	`Antiar1`	`kergoth: What are the timestamps on your beta WDBs?`
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`05:40.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`ptr doesn't create any wdbs, either`
`05:41.21`	`Antiar1`	`BAH.`
`05:41.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`ill confirm that`
`05:41.30`	`Antiar1`	`I really, really hope this is a temp thing.`
`05:41.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`me too`
`05:41.41`	`Antiar1`	`Because, uh, it'll suck hardcore if it goes live.`
`05:41.50`	`Antiar1`	`I'll have to store a ton more data in saved vars.`
`05:42.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`no more ledwig =(`
`05:42.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`most of you'll have US accounts... you can ask in the forum that gets read by the right people`
`05:42.06`	`Gnarfoz`	`;)`
`05:42.45`	`Antiar1`	`I'll have to ask that.`
`05:43.50`	`nymbia`	`it's gotta be a bug..`
`05:44.24`	`Gnarfoz`	`i'll be delighted to read the flame-fest that thread's gonna turn into until you get a reply ;>`
`05:50.46`	`kergoth`	`god i love that respecs are only a copper on the beta`
`05:50.51`	`kergoth`	`yay for not spending all my moneys`
`05:51.35`	`DrDre`	`why would it be a flamefest? lol`
`05:51.50`	`DrDre`	`and pff, EU forums so much better than`
`05:51.51`	`Antiar1`	`http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1257022&postId=12354464&sid=1#0`
`05:52.01`	`DrDre`	`US, you guys get all the info first and usually accurate on EU`
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`05:53.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`kebinusan: i might have found something related to not being able to dismiss warlock pets`
`05:59.26`	`Antiarc`	`Ok, this is BIZARRE.`
`05:59.44`	`Antiarc`	`GetItemInfo on an ID the client hasn't seen returns nil for the name, but gives me quality and texture info`
`05:59.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`05:59.57`	`Antiarc`	`And GameTooltip:SetHyperlink() on the same item produces a valid tooltip`
`06:00.03`	`Antiarc`	`Just the name is returned nil.`
`06:00.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`umm`
`06:00.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`trying to think of an item that you couldnt have possible ever seen`
`06:00.48`	`Antiarc`	`I'm about to do a loop`
`06:00.54`	`Antiarc`	`And write out all the names scanned from tooltips`
`06:01.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`you should make a tooltip scaning loop`
`06:01.32`	`Antiarc`	`Yup, exactly what I'm doing`
`06:01.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`and save the entire tooltip text to a saved var`
`06:01.51`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel * r17534 10!!!Libs/ (. !!!Libs.toc):`
`06:01.51`	`CIA-17`	`!!!Libs:`
`06:01.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Added ItemBonusLib-1.0`
`06:01.53`	`Antiarc`	`Yup.`
`06:02.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`then profit!`
`06:02.17`	`Antiarc`	`I'm going to bellylaugh so hard if it datamines the entire server item DB.`
`06:04.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`try 12947`
`06:04.21`	`kergoth`	`add it to tooltipexchange, it already mines with getiteminfo, just let it get unnamed ones too :)`
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`06:05.31`	`Antiarc`	`Well, the loop disconnected me.`
`06:05.50`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17535 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua:`
`06:05.50`	`CIA-17`	`SpellBinder:`
`06:05.50`	`CIA-17`	`- Tweaked layout. Better.`
`06:06.00`	`kebinusan`	`Arrowmaster: do tell`
`06:06.01`	`Antiarc`	`I guess the rules may be "If the server has seen it, SetHyperlink is valid. Else, disconnect the client"`
`06:06.13`	`nymbia`	`Antiarc: correct.`
`06:06.26`	`Antiarc`	`Empty result.`
`06:06.49`	`Antiarc`	`So I guess that it's getting server data for the items that Sanity knows about but which my local cache doesn't, but GetItemInfo() is boned.`
`06:07.01`	`Antiarc`	`I suppose that I could resort to tooltip scanning if GetItemInfo fails.`
`06:07.23`	`nymbia`	`well, yeah.. but that's just an extension of WDBs being boned.`
`06:07.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`kebinusan: patch notes for ptr said something about fixing a bug where dismissing a pet in a battleground would give the warlock a shard, i wonder if the fix was to break it`
`06:08.22`	`Antiarc`	`Interesting. I'm not getting texture data for some items.`
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`06:09.47`	`Antiarc`	`......and after a /reload, those items are available.`
`06:09.49`	`Antiarc`	`@_@`
`06:10.03`	`Antiarc`	`So I did a SetHyperlink on them, then a /reload, and they become available.`
`06:10.06`	`Antiarc`	`Interesting. Ok.`
`06:10.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`06:10.16`	`Antiarc`	`So I just SetHyperlink on anything before I try to GetItemInfo() and I should have its data.`
`06:10.52`	`nymbia`	`Antiarc: that's realllly weird.`
`06:10.57`	`kebinusan`	`Arrowmaster: heh Im not sure Im on the beta realm I posted and submitted a bug report that /script PetDismiss() doesnt work and there is no other way other way to dismiss a warlock pet if you dont use the bliz unit frames`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17536 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua:`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`SpellBinder:`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed trying to unbind a non-existant key.`
`06:10.59`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed a minor display issue.`
`06:11.05`	`Antiarc`	`Tell me about it, nymbia`
`06:11.18`	`kebinusan`	`kind of annoying really Id prefer to type some archiac slash command instead of clicking a widget`
`06:11.37`	`Antiarc`	`Hahahahah, now I'm getting an unknown C error while trying to SetHyperlink. Maybe lack of owner.`
`06:12.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`try item ids for items that you know the server shouldnt have seen yet`
`06:12.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`like 13262`
`06:12.59`	`Antiarc`	`My loop discoed me when I did that, Arrowmaster`
`06:13.13`	`nymbia`	`Antiarc: take a look at Sniff as far as what goes and what doesn't for item datamining`
`06:13.47`	`Antiarc`	`I don't want to datamine so much as I just want Sanity to work with item IDs the client has recorded.`
`06:14.20`	`Antiarc`	`Yeah, this definitely works.`
`06:14.27`	`Antiarc`	`Look at another char's data, get lots of unknowns`
`06:14.34`	`Antiarc`	`Mouse over them, reload UI, and they're available.`
`06:14.46`	`Antiarc`	`Which tells me their data is being made available to GetItemInfo() in RAM.`
`06:14.47`	`nymbia`	`well.. those disconnects prevent 'datamining' in most senses. but you can get a good feel for how to go about looking for items`
`06:15.11`	`Antiarc`	`Right.`
`06:15.46`	`Antiarc`	`Interestingly --`
`06:16.02`	`Antiarc`	`It looks like if I have "cache unknown" data loaded up, WoW crashes when I try to log out or quit.`
`06:16.11`	`Antiarc`	`I suspect it's trying to write to a WDB file that isn't there.`
`06:16.32`	`Antiarc`	`If I don't try to view another inventory, I can exit normally`
`06:16.41`	`Antiarc`	`But, when I try to view another inventory, it crashes on logout.`
`06:16.47`	`DrDre`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8846025395811765233&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en < how do people get the camera like that where you can zoom out so far and view the land like that?`
`06:17.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`DrDre, i think theres some cvars you can adjust`
`06:18.18`	`DrDre`	`ive edited my farthest zoom var with oTweaks`
`06:18.23`	`DrDre`	`and it doesnt allow anything like thatr...`
`06:19.27`	`Antiarc`	`Here's a test:`
`06:19.32`	`DrDre`	`that BG looks cool as hell`
`06:19.57`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:19.57`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:19.57`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:20.06`	`Antiarc`	`Line 1 returns nil, line 3 returns the proper info.`
`06:20.35`	`Antiarc`	`My concern -there- would be discoing the client if they try to SetHyperlink on another character's inventory right after a server restart`
`06:20.55`	`Antiarc`	`Though I guess that the possibility there is extremely small, except for super rare items like the black AQ40 mount.`
`06:21.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`im not liking the idea of damage done and healing done on the bg scoreboard`
`06:21.09`	`Antiarc`	`Why not?`
`06:21.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`cough execute whores cough`
`06:21.29`	`Antiarc`	`Executes are the least of your worries as far as padding goes`
`06:21.38`	`Antiarc`	`And it's a lot harder to execute spam in PVP`
`06:21.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`in pvp?`
`06:21.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`whats worse for damage padding in pvp?`
`06:21.59`	`nymbia`	`Antiarc: yeah, but, it's a possibility nonetheless. really though, you shouldn't need to. and if you do.. better to show no data than risk a disconnect.`
`06:22.10`	`Antiarc`	`Priests dropping SW:P on everything, blizzard, blast wave, any AOE...`
`06:22.14`	`nymbia`	`hopefully they fix these WDB issues :(`
`06:22.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`put thats actually damage done`
`06:22.37`	`Antiarc`	`You're talking about overdamage then`
`06:22.48`	`Antiarc`	`Mages critting frostbolts for 4k when I have 600 HP left? :P`
`06:22.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`meh`
`06:22.59`	`Antiarc`	`Rogues critting evis for 2200 when I have 600 HP left?`
`06:23.13`	`Antiarc`	`Who knows, maybe the tallies ignore over damage`
`06:23.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`would be interesting`
`06:23.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`would be funny as hell if they ignored over healing too`
`06:24.15`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17537 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: range coloring - only red for now`
`06:24.24`	`Vanish`	`Hmmm.. Fizzle an't find it's own Abacus-2.0 lib either`
`06:25.36`	`Antiarc`	`Of greater concern to me at the moment is that the client crashes on logout if I view another character's inventory.`
`06:25.53`	`Antiarc`	`Not exactly my fault if my theory is right, but I can't have my users' clients crashing when they try to switch to an alt.`
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`06:26.23`	`Kyahx`	`The Wii is so amazing`
`06:26.28`	`Antiarc`	`So jealous :(`
`06:27.03`	`Kyahx`	`haha`
`06:27.15`	`Kyahx`	`My buddies and I camped Wal-mart to get ours`
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`06:27.33`	`nymbia`	`Antiarc: it makes very little sense. i had the same client crash earlier, and i dont have any mods installed on beta that're pulling info for item ids that they shouldn't`
`06:27.35`	`Kyahx`	`Tiny town and we still had to get there at 10:30am`
`06:28.08`	`nymbia`	`Kyahx: i was 16th in line at a store that had 12 >.<`
`06:29.16`	`Kyahx`	`=/`
`06:29.21`	`Kyahx`	`I was 15th, our store only got 20`
`06:29.31`	`Kyahx`	`They were all claimed by 11am`
`06:30.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`local ebgames got robed at closing the night before the ps3 came out`
`06:30.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`apparently they only had 5 total`
`06:30.25`	`nymbia`	`they did pretty terrible on the supply end here.. like 75000 people in the town and all the stores had a combined 180ish units.`
`06:31.30`	`nymbia`	`scratch that. "137,177"`
`06:31.54`	`Kyahx`	`nymbia: for the Wii or PS3 your talking?`
`06:31.59`	`nymbia`	`Wii`
`06:32.03`	`Kyahx`	`ah`
`06:32.40`	`nymbia`	`i think there were a grand total of about 8 PS3s, rofl.`
`06:32.44`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`06:33.02`	`Kyahx`	`Im not in any way shape or form excited for the PS3, I think it's a total waste of money`
`06:33.49`	`nymbia`	`yeah, i'm not a fan. plus i dont have that kind of money. especially after my car stereo got stolen a couple nights ago.`
`06:33.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`i might try and get one once theres some mod chips for it, that or i might actually finally buy a ps2`
`06:34.17`	`Kyahx`	`Arrowmaster: what's the point of modding a system when none of the games are good?`
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`06:34.47`	`Kyahx`	`Resistance is the only title that looks interesting, everything else is either A) also on the 360, B) shit`
`06:35.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`Kyahx: hence why i said i might actually finally get a ps2`
`06:35.32`	`Kyahx`	`heh`
`06:35.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`and there hasnt been much for the 360 thats any good`
`06:35.53`	`Kyahx`	`Dead Rising :P`
`06:35.59`	`Vanish`	`Aha! Figured out why my tooltips were't working. Mendeleev changed something...`
`06:36.34`	`Kyahx`	`The thing about the 360, is that most of the large titles are comeing out on both systems, so I may as well just play them on 360`
`06:36.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive still only got like 4 360 games that i bought shortly after i got my 360`
`06:36.42`	`Kyahx`	`GTA, Guitar Hero, etc...`
`06:37.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`since when is 360 getting GTA?`
`06:37.17`	`Kyahx`	`360 is getting GTA4 at the same time as PS3`
`06:37.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow`
`06:37.29`	`Kyahx`	`Resident Evil 5 is also launching on both systems`
`06:37.44`	`Kyahx`	`And Guitar Hero 2 for 360 will have downloadable content, unlike the PS version`
`06:38.11`	`chuckg`	`It's not like the past anymore where you had to develop for a console, can just develop a more or less PC game and customize a few things.`
`06:38.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`i still hate that`
`06:38.53`	`Kyahx`	`shrug`
`06:39.16`	`chuckg`	`Limiting their audience to one console is stupid now that the option exists with minimal extra work to expand it.`
`06:39.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`you end up with pc games with shitty interfaces like oblivion and deus ex 2`
`06:39.31`	`Antiarc`	`The PS3 is still pretty specialized hardware`
`06:39.40`	`Antiarc`	`The xbox is basically a desktop with known hardware.`
`06:39.50`	`Antiarc`	`The GC/Wii are middle ground between the two`
`06:39.53`	`Kyahx`	`That can be a plus thou, makes the xbox cheaper to dev for`
`06:40.01`	`Antiarc`	`Definitely`
`06:40.02`	`Kyahx`	`and easy to sell the game to PC users as well`
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`06:40.20`	`chuckg`	`All I care is that the WII has opera.`
`06:40.23`	`chuckg`	`=D`
`06:40.26`	`Kyahx`	`Heh`
`06:40.28`	`Kyahx`	`Im loving Rayman`
`06:40.32`	`chuckg`	`Even though I'd never buy one.`
`06:40.57`	`Kyahx`	`My favorite part about the Wii is it makes people who normally hate video games give them a chance`
`06:41.12`	`chuckg`	`Looks like a keke game.`
`06:41.49`	`Kyahx`	`eh, it's a great party game`
`06:41.57`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`06:41.58`	`Kyahx`	`short simple weird games, same draw as wario ware`
`06:42.08`	`kergoth`	`mutilate doesnt suck as much as i thought it would, but i'm still somewhat disappointed`
`06:42.21`	`Kyahx`	`kergoth: mutilate?`
`06:42.50`	`Antiarc`	`Mutilate's strength is the CP generation`
`06:42.56`	`Antiarc`	`But it's still underwhelming, comparatively.`
`06:42.56`	`kergoth`	`idneed`
`06:43.04`	`kergoth`	`lots of finishing moves, find weakness is always up`
`06:43.26`	`kergoth`	`which is nice, i lose the hard hitting initial hits out of stealth i have with the shadowstep build, but boosts the dps in the remainder of the fight`
`06:43.58`	`kergoth`	`though not hugely, since you cant gouge+mutilate well with the deadly poison applied, have to build up a kidney`
`06:44.01`	`Antiarc`	`The bad news is that at 61, with 1045 base AP and Perd/DFB, I only hit cloth in the arena with a (takes breath) [poisoned, Imp KS, Find Weakness, ZHM-buffed double crit mutilate] for 2k.`
`06:44.02`	`kergoth`	`course that isnt hard with seal fate`
`06:44.03`	`kergoth`	`but still`
`06:44.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`tbc rogue question, hows deadly poison working with multiple rogues using it`
`06:44.15`	`Antiarc`	`you each get a slot`
`06:44.21`	`kergoth`	`Arrowmaster, i've heard that each rogue gets their own on it now`
`06:44.21`	`Antiarc`	`Though you can't tell which slot is yours`
`06:44.23`	`kergoth`	`yea`
`06:44.56`	`kergoth`	`Antiarc, hmm, i wonder if the shadowstep build would be more useful in pvp, might have to try it. the +15% agi and +10% AP talents in that area help a bit`
`06:45.27`	`Antiarc`	`I've done a good amount of PVP. Enough to recognize that I'm rather disappointed with the rogue role in PVP right now. :/`
`06:45.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`and since with that much CP generation every rogue with mutilate would be keeping rupture up, makes me wonder how good the new 40 debuff limit is actually going to be`
`06:45.40`	`Antiarc`	`I can't punch through the new stam pools fast enough, even on cloth.`
`06:46.12`	`Antiarc`	`And again, that's with a mutilate build, 29% crit, and 1045 unbuffed AP.`
`06:46.20`	`Antiarc`	`Soooo I don't know.`
`06:46.45`	`Antiarc`	`Meanwhile I took my greens-and-blues warriors out last night with a 2h rampage build and ground for about 2 hours at 2200-2400 AP.`
`06:46.50`	`kergoth`	`Arrowmaster, yea no doubt, with that many combo points you've got snd, rupture, and still have spares for evis`
`06:46.55`	`kergoth`	`Antiarc, damn`
`06:46.56`	`Antiarc`	`Bugged rampage is fun as hell. Heroic Strike for 2.2k is crazy.`
`06:47.04`	`kergoth`	`hmmm`
`06:47.05`	`Antiarc`	`Self-buffed, no consumables.`
`06:47.22`	`Antiarc`	`Just zerker bonus + BS + Rampage + the odd crusader proc.`
`06:47.44`	`Antiarc`	`I was critting WW on non-sundered mobs for 1500.`
`06:47.53`	`Antiarc`	`White crits for 1300 using an OEB`
`06:48.08`	`Antiarc`	`Sheer insanity. I will cry when they fix it.`
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`06:48.56`	`yacoob`	`wow is starting to look like dragon balls`
`06:49.04`	`yacoob`	`numbers are turning into thousands and millions`
`06:49.33`	`kergoth`	`whats your mutilate sequence on mobs? i'm playing with cheap shot -> SnD -> mutilate -> kidney shot -> mutilate -> 5 point evis as an opener`
`06:50.00`	`Antiarc`	`I've been skipping the SnD and just going CS -> Mut, KS, CB evis.`
`06:50.18`	`kergoth`	`i wanted the SnD to get find weakness immediately for the first mutilate`
`06:50.20`	`Antiarc`	`Orcs and Helboars survive it, but demons and zangarmarsh trash usually keels over if I crit the mutilate.`
`06:50.40`	`Antiarc`	`I actually found that grinding with double deadly worked well`
`06:50.59`	`Antiarc`	`I gave up gouge, but the deadly eats them alive, and I have 5100 HP unbuffed at the moment, so they can beat on me for a while.`
`06:51.15`	`kergoth`	`i was using double deadly but it seemed weak about half way through once i hit 5 stacked, i'm on deadly mh instant oh now`
`06:51.17`	`Antiarc`	`I just SS for CP until KS is up again, or I wait for energy and gouge -> mut before the tick.`
`06:51.50`	`Antiarc`	`For the most part, I'm not sure what I think about it. I'll probably end up SF/AR for grinding out 70.`
`06:52.06`	`Antiarc`	`Just because BF is god for grinding`
`06:52.15`	`Antiarc`	`And AR lets you drop things that you normally wouldn't be able to - nameds, etc`
`06:53.01`	`kergoth`	`yeah, i miss my combat build`
`06:53.22`	`Antiarc`	`I'm a mace combat rogue in live, but I figured I'd give Mutilate a go`
`06:53.29`	`Antiarc`	`I just can't get excited about Sub, still.`
`06:53.30`	`kergoth`	`basically i'm using these builds to remind myself how to play as a dagger rogue again. my sword combat build was a run up and beat on shit like a damn warrior build`
`06:53.38`	`Antiarc`	`Heheh, yup.`
`06:55.51`	`Antiarc`	`Hahahahahahahaha`
`06:55.52`	`Antiarc`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8053805333038328007`
`06:55.59`	`Antiarc`	`The good news is that we're now the best pullers in the game!`
`06:56.08`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:56.18`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:56.50`	`Antiarc`	`Take that, hunters!`
`06:57.05`	`kergoth`	`shadowstep is okay. its range is about what i expected it to be, and its 20% damage increase coupled with the increase to attacks out of stealth from that other talent makes for some whopping ambushes, and not using deadly means gouge is viable again`
`06:57.08`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
`06:57.24`	`Antiarc`	`My problem with the entire sub tree is that it's built on the opener.`
`06:57.33`	`Antiarc`	`Once you blow your initial opener, you're a free HK`
`06:57.43`	`Greywind`	`doh anyone have the fixes handy or a diff for Meta Hud to get it working in TBC after the latest patch broke it?`
`06:57.45`	`Antiarc`	`It had better kill them, or you're toast.`
`06:57.46`	`kergoth`	`yeah no doubt. either the mob is dead in 3 hits, or you're toast`
`06:58.26`	`Antiarc`	`Hellfire go boom.`
`06:58.59`	`kergoth`	`shadowstep->ambush->gouge (or ks)->backstab, then you're weak on combo points and better hope they wont kill you before you get off another ks->backstab`
`06:59.02`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`06:59.24`	`kergoth`	`sigh.. my wireless mouse just stopped working`
`06:59.25`	`kergoth`	`out of nowhere`
`06:59.27`	`kergoth`	`it has battery`
`06:59.29`	`kergoth`	`just poof`
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`07:01.35`	`nymbia`	`man. wowwiki's resistance formula page is just.. terrible...`
`07:01.43`	`Antiarc`	`Hahahah, it works`
`07:05.27`	`Antiarc`	`Oh man.`
`07:05.36`	`Antiarc`	`That stealth aggro bug would be the best thing ever for C'Thun.`
`07:05.44`	`Antiarc`	`We'd never even make it to Sartura`
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`07:09.09`	`XLVII`	`Does anyone play Alliance on Jubei'Thos?`
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`07:16.27`	`CIA-17`	`03antiarc * r17538 10Sanity2/ (Sanity.lua SanityDisplay.lua SanityItemCache.lua):`
`07:16.27`	`CIA-17`	`Sanity2: Added code to prevent SetHyperlink on links that we can't`
`07:16.28`	`CIA-17`	`GetItemInfo(). This is highly necessary as of build 6144 due to the fact that`
`07:16.28`	`CIA-17`	`WDBs are not being written with item data, so the indicence of missing items is`
`07:16.28`	`CIA-17`	`extremely high.`
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`07:31.20`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17539 10MobMitigation/ (. MobMitigation.lua MobMitigation.toc):`
`07:31.20`	`CIA-17`	`MobMitigation:`
`07:31.20`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed a couple libs that didn't end up getting used`
`07:31.20`	`CIA-17`	`- Tweaked and checked resistance forumula; should be accurate.`
`07:33.07`	`ckknight_`	`why must the TBC installer be so slow...`
`07:33.13`	`nymbia`	`to taunt you.`
`07:33.32`	`nymbia`	`seriously, your luck's been pretty bad with this damn thing.`
`07:33.48`	`ckknight`	`I'm at 44% now`
`07:34.05`	`ckknight`	`omfg.`
`07:34.13`	`ckknight`	`An error was detected while verifying the contents of the file "C:\Program Files\Burning Crusade Closed Beta\Data\common.MPQ". There may be a problem with your system, or with the drive at C:\. You can attempt to install again. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support.`
`07:34.27`	`ckknight`	`after I installed WoW normally.`
`07:34.40`	`nymbia`	`fun.`
`07:35.29`	`nymbia`	`my friend who had a similar (possibly the same) error had to reformat before it'd work :(`
`07:35.31`	`Elkano`	`nymbia, a bug message from MobMitigation from yesterday: MobMitigation\\MobMitigation.lua:387: attempt to compare nil with number`
`07:35.57`	`ckknight`	`ah, can't reformat...`
`07:36.05`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, check your RAM :/`
`07:36.13`	`yacoob`	`if you're getting random corruption`
`07:36.37`	`yacoob`	`get memtest86, burn, boot from that, test at least once. Better, leave it running overnight.`
`07:36.45`	`nymbia`	`Elkano: have you updated since a day or so ago? i put in something to hopefully stop that, but it might not've worked`
`07:37.53`	`Elkano`	`I'm on rev 17271`
`07:38.54`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17540 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs : Update locals koKR`
`07:39.22`	`Elkano`	`btw: you could add tooltips to the icons; took me a while to understand their meanings and some icons I haven't figured out, yet`
`07:39.52`	`nymbia`	`Elkano: that fix was in 17377, so i'd say get updated to there and let me know if it still happens.`
`07:40.05`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`07:40.55`	`nymbia`	`Elkano: yeah, i've been thinking that'd be cool -- have the tooltip show the stats and the info that went into the calculation`
`07:41.15`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17541 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua:`
`07:41.15`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs_LoathebTactical :`
`07:41.15`	`CIA-17`	`- Add locals koKR`
`07:41.17`	`Elkano`	`~seen kemayo`
`07:41.53`	`purl`	`kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 22h 39m 56s) #wowace (1d 22h 39m 56s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 9h 21m 10s, last said: 'kergoth: I just logged in, and the error didn't happen.'.`
`07:42.44`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17542 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: Update locals koKR`
`07:43.38`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17543 10BigWigs_CThunAssist/BigWigs_CThunAssist.lua: BigWigs_CThunAssist : Add locals koKR`
`07:45.21`	`ckknight`	`I just wanna play TBC :'(`
`07:46.22`	`nymbia`	`:(`
`07:47.02`	`kergoth`	`:'(`
`07:47.30`	`ckknight`	`why must it taunt me so?`
`07:47.46`	`ckknight`	`I installed WoW like I was supposed to, and it still refuses to install.`
`07:48.03`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17544 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:`
`07:48.03`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2 :`
`07:48.03`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:48.04`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:48.18`	`nymbia`	`yeah. same thing happened to my friend =\`
`07:49.48`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17545 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`07:49.48`	`CIA-17`	`Babble-2.2 :`
`07:49.48`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:56.43`	`Mery`	`well if you can find a second computer you may be able to patch there and copy he patched version to yours?`
`07:57.56`	`ckknight`	`don't really have a second computer at hand`
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`08:19.37`	`Elkano`	`anyone mind giving a small bump to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47300694&sid=1 ?`
`08:20.45`	`nymbia`	`done`
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`08:22.13`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17546 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/koKR.lua: Cartographer : Update locals koKR`
`08:23.16`	`Elkano`	`thx :)`
`08:24.37`	`Hajitorus`	`ps, koKR in 17540 broke bigwigs again :P`
`08:24.55`	`ckknight`	`down with koreans!`
`08:25.04`	`nymbia`	`hahaha`
`08:25.09`	`Hajitorus`	`eh, just a misplaced comma ;)`
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`08:25.27`	`nymbia`	`still, they should test the stuff before they commit.`
`08:25.35`	`Hajitorus`	`would kinda help`
`08:26.16`	`Hajitorus`	`and i'm a fool for running svn ace stuff, but still :P`
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`08:29.17`	`Elkano`	`btw: will there still be sth like the PvP ranks in BC? (mainly wrt rank3's 10% off)`
`08:30.08`	`Elkano`	`btw: does anyone have an idea why latest AuldLangSyne doesn't work?`
`08:30.18`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17547 10oPen/moredots.lua: oPen : Add locals koKR`
`08:30.30`	`Elkano`	`it's a problem with its GetWhoInfo hook, but I can't find it`
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`08:45.56`	`Noekoe`	`<Elkano> btw: does anyone have an idea why latest AuldLangSyne doesn't work?`
`08:46.02`	`Noekoe`	`i updated it yesterday and working fine now`
`08:47.55`	`Elkano`	`last update is from 11/16`
`08:48.06`	`Noekoe`	`well 2 days ago it didnt work`
`08:48.13`	`Noekoe`	`yesterday i updated again and it worked`
`08:49.12`	`Noekoe`	`how come when i select multiple directories to update with Tortoise and i get a error it stops the complete update?`
`08:49.24`	`Elkano`	`does your Who frame still work?`
`08:49.29`	`Noekoe`	`yep`
`08:49.55`	`Elkano`	`hmm, for me it broke who so I reverted`
`08:50.07`	`Noekoe`	`how can it breake /who?`
`08:50.13`	`Noekoe`	`what was wrong?`
`09:01.17`	`Elkano`	`well, eg. the who-tab wont show up correctly anymore`
`09:01.55`	`Elkano`	and the following error is thrown: AuldLangSyne\\AuldLangSyne.lua:486: attempt to call field `GetWhoInfo' (a nil value)
`09:07.46`	`Gngsk`	`is there a timer mod for fubar?`
`09:08.03`	`Gngsk`	`like ct_timer`
`09:09.38`	`DrDre`	`can SetBindingSpell("KEY", "Spell Name") be used in combat`
`09:09.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`shouldnt be able to`
`09:09.54`	`ckknight`	`no, DrDre`
`09:09.57`	`DrDre`	`bah`
`09:10.00`	`DrDre`	`bliz is too smart`
`09:10.11`	`Hajitorus`	`yes, gngsk`
`09:10.26`	`Gngsk`	`Hajitorus, what's it called?`
`09:10.33`	`Hajitorus`	`fubar_timerfu`
`09:10.55`	`Gngsk`	`sweetness, thx`
`09:11.18`	`cryogen`	`08:49 < Noekoe> how come when i select multiple directories to update with`
`09:11.18`	`cryogen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:11.22`	`cryogen`	`because svn is atmoic`
`09:11.30`	`cryogen`	`either it all works, or it's all reverted`
`09:11.42`	`Noekoe`	`bleh :s`
`09:11.44`	`ckknight`	`I reverted your mom last night`
`09:11.45`	`Noekoe`	`that really sucks`
`09:11.46`	`ckknight`	`all night long.`
`09:11.49`	`Noekoe`	`gm ckknight`
`09:12.00`	`Noekoe`	`just installing some thing from you :)`
`09:12.00`	`cryogen`	`its actually one of the best things about svn`
`09:12.07`	`cryogen`	`especially if you ever used cvs..`
`09:12.22`	`Noekoe`	`btw ckknight, my mum is like 65 she is grey and looks ugly`
`09:12.24`	`Noekoe`	`gg :p`
`09:12.38`	`ckknight`	`you should respect your mother.`
`09:12.40`	`Hajitorus`	`that's why he reverted her to 21yo`
`09:12.42`	`Noekoe`	`i do! :)`
`09:12.55`	`Iceroth`	`http://iceroth.net/update.txt <- rename to .pl and enjoy`
`09:13.04`	`Noekoe`	`but when you say you reverted my mum last night who is disrespectless to my mum here? :P`
`09:13.43`	`Iceroth`	`and place it to your interface/addons dir`
`09:13.52`	`ckknight`	`porkings ftw`
`09:15.15`	`Noekoe`	`anyone got a nice tip for some cool addon i really need to check? :)`
`09:16.50`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r17548 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fixed a logic bug in pattern matching order`
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`09:17.42`	`Srosh`	`mh, is Cartographer_InstanceNotes now obsolete with it being added to Cartographer as a module?`
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`09:19.50`	`Melisandre`	`hi`
`09:19.56`	`Gngsk`	`greets`
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`09:24.44`	`Noekoe`	`Elkano, just checked again and also my who system works fine here`
`09:25.05`	`Elkano`	`strange...`
`09:25.15`	`Elkano`	`friend of mine had the same problem`
`09:25.52`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`09:26.01`	`nevcairiel`	`morning ammo, and all the others`
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`09:29.05`	`nevcairiel`	`OneBag places its taints all over the place, is there any other Bag Addon which works on TBC ?`
`09:29.32`	`[Ammo]`	`bagnon has a TBC version`
`09:30.10`	`nevcairiel`	`yay BT3 doesnt taint anything, according to that taintmap addon :)`
`09:32.27`	`CIA-17`	`03nymbia * r17549 10MobMitigation/ (. MobMitigation-enUS.lua MobMitigation.lua MobMitigation.toc):`
`09:32.27`	`CIA-17`	`MobMitigation:`
`09:32.27`	`CIA-17`	`- Added tooltips, Dewdrop options menu.`
`09:32.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Armor should now be a lot less buggy and a lot more accurate. note: changed data format. Should not be any conflicts, but saved armor data may be inaccurate.`
`09:32.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Saved data should now reset properly when disabling saved data.`
`09:34.43`	`[Ammo]`	`out of inspiration meh`
`09:34.56`	`[Ammo]`	`I should be fixing oRA2's MT frames for wow2.0 but meh`
`09:36.18`	`Nargiddley`	`I've just finished getting my MT addon converted`
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`09:37.30`	`[Ammo]`	`nargiddley, that's mainassist right?`
`09:37.33`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah`
`09:37.45`	`Nargiddley`	`your one shouldnt be too hard`
`09:37.54`	`[Ammo]`	`I know`
`09:38.08`	`Nargiddley`	`mine will do party as well, makes it a pain`
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`09:38.25`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just that I still needed to fix some stuff for oRA2 regular`
`09:38.27`	`Nargiddley`	`since SecurePartyHeader doesnt take a namelist`
`09:38.42`	`[Ammo]`	`got most of that stuff nailed`
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`09:39.34`	`Nargiddley`	`still havent got raid pets working, i think thats going to be the hardest`
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`09:42.57`	`[Ammo]`	`nargiddley: mind sharing your changes for mainassist?`
`09:43.20`	`Nargiddley`	`i've put a tbc branch on the svn`
`09:43.23`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't really feel like inventing the wheel again, I'll give credits :)`
`09:43.25`	`[Ammo]`	`ah ok`
`09:43.28`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll check it out`
`09:43.58`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm why use XML? can't do it from lua?`
`09:44.22`	`Nargiddley`	`SecureRaidGroupHeader takes a frame template as a parameter`
`09:44.28`	`Nargiddley`	`that it uses to create the frames`
`09:44.36`	`Nargiddley`	`its got basicly nothing in it`
`09:44.48`	`Nargiddley`	`template that inherits SecureUnitFrameTemplate`
`09:45.05`	`Nargiddley`	`and an onload that calls a function to actually make the frame`
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`09:45.23`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah ok, but I thought blizzard fixed it so you could do it from lua`
`09:46.15`	`Nargiddley`	`wasnt sure how to create the template to pass to it, diddnt try anything though`
`09:46.54`	`Deviad`	`Is there anyone in here who can tell me why I get freaky outputs like this: http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yawrsgotxz9.jpg ?`
`09:47.11`	`Deviad`	`Is there any setting I'm not aware of?`
`09:49.34`	`CIA-17`	`03gamefaq * r17550 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Heigan.lua: BigWigs - Fixed Typo in Naxxramas/Heigan koKR Translation`
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`10:01.05`	`nevcairiel`	`--Set Dummy text to get text width SUPER HACK`
`10:01.08`	`nevcairiel`	`gogo blizzard :D`
`10:01.21`	`nymbia`	`rofl`
`10:01.29`	`krka`	`all serious projects have ugly hacks`
`10:01.47`	`nevcairiel`	`But placing a note in an open code is kinda weird :)`
`10:02.46`	`krka`	`nah`
`10:02.52`	`nymbia`	`shrug better that they let us know that it's intended as a hack instead of us getting to scratch our heads about it`
`10:03.11`	`Fritti`	`morning all`
`10:03.48`	`nevcairiel`	`bah i still couldnt figure out which addon taints my QuestLog_OnEvent`
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`10:06.06`	`CIA-17`	`03chrisp * r17551 10QuestAnnouncer/ (CoreFu.lua QuestAnnouncer.toc icon.tga):`
`10:06.06`	`CIA-17`	`QuestAnnouncer`
`10:06.06`	`CIA-17`	`- fubar icon added`
`10:06.06`	`CIA-17`	`- fubar text removed`
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`10:14.41`	`Deviad`	`Has anyone of you ever had any experience with wxDevc++ ?`
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`10:19.07`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: where is that comment?`
`10:21.31`	`nevcairiel`	`questlogframe.lua`
`10:22.27`	`nevcairiel`	`ive been through that file 3 times now, and i dont kno why anything could taint that. but it causes ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED errors in some cases`
`10:22.48`	`Tem`	`nevcairiel, why does QuestLog_OnEvent matter?`
`10:23.05`	`Tem`	`what does do that it needs to be untainted for?`
`10:23.18`	`nevcairiel`	`it calls UIParent_ManageFramePositions`
`10:23.29`	`Tem`	`ah`
`10:23.36`	`Tem`	`that'll do it...`
`10:23.54`	`nevcairiel`	`and i get spammed with blocked errors when that happens :)`
`10:26.16`	`Tem`	`nevcairiel, do you have gello's ADAPT installed?`
`10:26.32`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
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`10:27.52`	`nevcairiel`	`i scanned my globals with taintmap and nothing fancy seems to be tainted`
`10:28.00`	`Tem`	`check the taintedness of QuestFrame_SetPortrait`
`10:28.11`	`Tem`	`er`
`10:28.18`	`Tem`	`of SetPortraitTexture`
`10:29.00`	`nevcairiel`	`its still secure`
`10:29.43`	`Tem`	`oh...`
`10:29.47`	`Tem`	`no wonder I'm baffled`
`10:29.56`	`Tem`	`I'm looking at QuestFRAME_OnEvent`
`10:31.32`	`phyber`	`nevcairiel: you're not using SeriousBuffTimers are you? </random question for something that you're probably not running but might taint the OnUpdate>`
`10:31.45`	`nevcairiel`	`no i am not`
`10:31.47`	`Fritti`	`nevcairiel: isn't the addon in the stack frame displayed by bugsack?`
`10:31.48`	`phyber`	`ok.`
`10:31.50`	`Tem`	`Check QuestLog_Update`
`10:31.50`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6249-VirtualBags.html`
`10:31.59`	`Fritti`	`latest bugsack catches _BLOCKED events and displays callstack`
`10:32.46`	`nevcairiel`	`Fritti: the callstack is only in FrameXML code, starts in QuestLog_OnEvent and ends in UIParent_ManageFramePositions`
`10:32.52`	`Fritti`	`bah :(`
`10:33.51`	`nevcairiel`	`Tem: Ive looked through that function for like an hour now, and QuestWatch_Update as well, i dont see where a taint could come from .. and it doesnt happen all the time, only sometimes .. i couldnt nail the conditions yet`
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`10:34.24`	`Fritti`	`those are the weirdest bugs`
`10:34.25`	`Tem`	`nevcairiel, well... is it tainted?`
`10:34.35`	`nevcairiel`	`issecurevariable says its not`
`10:34.40`	`Tem`	`ok`
`10:35.06`	`Tem`	`but the question is then, "Is that the vector that tainted _OnEvent, or did _OnEvent taint it?"`
`10:35.21`	`Tem`	`My theory, though, is that someone has hooked _Update`
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`10:35.32`	`Tem`	`(like a quest levels addon)`
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`10:36.06`	`Health`	`Hi!`
`10:36.16`	`Health`	`"La Vendetta Boss Mods provide a full standalone heavy Bossmod. It uses much lesser Performance than other BossMods like Ct_bossmods, Bigwigs, Imba, or something like this."`
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`10:36.19`	`Health`	`:P`
`10:37.11`	`nevcairiel`	`a heavy bossmod with lesser performance :P`
`10:37.34`	`phyber`	`QuestFu hooks GetQuestLogTitle(), which is called in the OnUpdate.`
`10:37.46`	`phyber`	`uhh, _Update`
`10:37.57`	`nevcairiel`	`but TaintMap should report that, and i dont run QuestFu`
`10:38.16`	`Mikma`	`Health: is that a question?`
`10:38.20`	`phyber`	`TaintMap, sounds interesting.`
`10:38.32`	`Tem`	`wtf is TaintMap and why do you assume it's so all knowing?`
`10:38.46`	`nevcairiel`	`taintmap scans all global vars if they are tainted`
`10:38.57`	`nevcairiel`	`its on wowi`
`10:39.11`	`Tem`	`at this point, I trust the addons of like 6 people to actually do what they're supposed to without bugs`
`10:39.33`	`Tem`	`(serious bugs)`
`10:40.20`	`Tem`	`So then, is GetQuestLogTitle tainted?`
`10:40.49`	`nevcairiel`	`all clean and secure`
`10:41.30`	`Tem`	`how about QUESTS_DISPLAYED and QUESTLOG_QUEST_HEIGHT`
`10:41.33`	`Health`	`Mikma: Just a fun quote.`
`10:42.02`	`Tem`	`haha`
`10:42.06`	`Tem`	`awesome comment here`
`10:42.15`	`Tem`	`--Set Dummy text to get text width SUPER HACK`
`10:42.26`	`nevcairiel`	`secure as well, i am somewhat near going through all lines and checking them`
`10:44.00`	`Tem`	`QUEST_LOG_COUNT_TEMPLATE`
`10:44.04`	`Tem`	`MAX_QUESTLOG_QUESTS`
`10:44.13`	`Tem`	`GetQuestLogSelection`
`10:45.18`	`Tem`	`sorry man, I gotta study for a test in the morning`
`10:45.22`	`Tem`	`no more from me`
`10:45.30`	`nevcairiel`	`np, hf`
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`11:03.11`	`Nargiddley`	`are you sure its the quest log functions introducing the taint ?`
`11:03.55`	`nevcairiel`	`what else could it be?`
`11:04.30`	`nevcairiel`	`I surely dont hope UIParent_ManageFramePositions manages to taint itself`
`11:04.51`	`Nargiddley`	`looking at whats tainted on mine`
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`11:05.23`	`Nargiddley`	`SHOW_MULTI_ACTIONBAR_1 is, and thats read by that update function`
`11:05.31`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`11:05.54`	`nevcairiel`	`those vars are secure on my setup`
`11:05.58`	`Nargiddley`	`k`
`11:07.44`	`Nargiddley`	`not even sure where it started with what i have loaded`
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`11:11.26`	`haste`	`Health: their performance report it based upon onload memory usage`
`11:11.30`	`haste`	`from warmup`
`11:11.38`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`11:11.43`	`haste`	`the not 1.10 warmup alos`
`11:11.59`	`haste`	`I think they've removed the warmup image now tho'`
`11:12.19`	`haste`	`showing the LVBM core vs BW, CTRA+CTMOD and IMBA`
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`11:15.56`	`nevcairiel`	`ive never heard of IMBA`
`11:16.07`	`nevcairiel`	`i bet its one of those crappy mods withou *** around the announces`
`11:16.28`	`haste`	`It's one of those, that have a VISUAL display on HOW to play @heigan`
`11:16.38`	`haste`	`and it's only Naxx mods afaik`
`11:16.55`	`nevcairiel`	`lol howto-kill-heigan`
`11:17.01`	`nevcairiel`	`i just saw the screenshot`
`11:17.18`	`CIA-17`	`03kodewulf 07TBC * r17552 10School/School/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`11:17.18`	`CIA-17`	`School`
`11:17.18`	`CIA-17`	`* Updated externals`
`11:17.18`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:17.19`	`CIA-17`	`* Update FuBar plugin`
`11:17.19`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:17.21`	`CIA-17`	`* Added Notes module`
`11:17.38`	`haste`	`if you actually need that screen, you shouldn't be in Naxx`
`11:18.05`	`nevcairiel`	`haha yea`
`11:18.11`	`haste`	`I'm thinking of writing a DKP / Raid planner now`
`11:18.22`	`haste`	`after I've cleaned up eqdkp yesterday`
`11:18.44`	`nevcairiel`	`have it finished till BC goes live, and i might think about using it`
`11:18.53`	`nevcairiel`	`we plan to scratch our eqDKP with BC`
`11:19.01`	`haste`	`It will be a module for the PunBB forum!`
`11:19.10`	`haste`	`just like the auction script I'm working on`
`11:20.42`	`nevcairiel`	`hm, i wonder if i should implement some cooldown timers into Bartender3 or just send people to OmniCC`
`11:21.14`	`haste`	`OmniCC is rather small so..`
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`11:22.43`	`nevcairiel`	`altho it does taint some stuff`
`11:23.13`	`Nargiddley`	`i'm seeing some taint with just my addon loaded, but its nothing that i'm touching :/`
`11:23.37`	`nevcairiel`	`oh well, only the basic layout is tainted in OmniCC, i dont use that anyway`
`11:23.43`	`haste`	`taint can spread like a disease`
`11:23.47`	`andg`	`nevcairiel, I would like redrange and cooldown timer in...`
`11:23.50`	`Nargiddley`	`yeah`
`11:23.54`	`andg`	`they're so small, no harm done to have it in`
`11:24.03`	`andg`	`and less spam in my addon directory`
`11:24.11`	`nevcairiel`	`i have redrange in`
`11:24.15`	`haste`	`"oh noes, the spam in the add on drectory?!"`
`11:24.24`	`andg`	`haste, :D`
`11:24.28`	`nevcairiel`	`going to think about cooldown`
`11:24.29`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`11:24.34`	`andg`	`dooo ettt`
`11:24.51`	`haste`	`It annoys me everytime someone does the: "omg it has more then one folder, it's clearly bloated!?"`
`11:25.07`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`11:25.16`	`nevcairiel`	`i am using the librarie standalones`
`11:25.20`	`nevcairiel`	`talk about addon dir bloat`
`11:25.20`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`11:25.30`	`nevcairiel`	`*library`
`11:25.32`	`andg`	`it annoys me when people say "omg it's all in one folder, it's clearly bloated" :D`
`11:26.37`	`haste`	`I'll come back later today`
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`11:28.17`	`andg`	`I'd rather have stuff as libraries`
`11:28.31`	`andg`	`I thought of how cool it could be to have an action button library`
`11:29.10`	`andg`	`instead of having all these addons that create their buttons themselves`
`11:30.18`	`andg`	`button1 = ActionButtonLib(actionid)`
`11:30.30`	`andg`	`now that would rock`
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`11:33.33`	`Geewiz`	`can someon plz help me with porblem i have have with ace`
`11:33.50`	`Geewiz`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3105.0`
`11:34.02`	`Geewiz`	`plz have a look at this for me :)`
`11:34.28`	`ckknight`	`teh porblems!`
`11:34.40`	`[Ammo]`	`hepl`
`11:34.46`	`Geewiz`	`it only happens on my mage char`
`11:35.14`	`Geewiz`	`my drood,war,hunter are ok`
`11:35.18`	`Geewiz`	`any ideas`
`11:35.52`	`Geewiz`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3105.0`
`11:36.07`	`Geewiz`	`10 views but no replys :(`
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`11:38.47`	`[Ammo]`	`geewiz: couldbe a saved vars problem`
`11:39.15`	`phyber`	`Bartender:ToggleBorder() exists though, I don't see how saved vars could make it not exist.`
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`11:40.49`	`[Ammo]`	`shrug, just a suggestion`
`11:40.58`	`[Ammo]`	`delete saved vars, update bartender`
`11:40.59`	`[Ammo]`	`try again`
`11:41.03`	`[Ammo]`	`is what I would do`
`11:41.41`	`Geewiz`	`mmmmm`
`11:44.05`	`Geewiz`	`no did not work :(`
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`11:50.10`	Funkeh`	`hey`
`12:02.24`	`aE\|neXter`	`is there any way to get the !!!Libs Folder with ext included without having a svn dev account?`
`12:02.29`	`aE\|neXter`	`(TBC branch)`
`12:02.50`	`aE\|neXter`	`'cause everytime i want to check it out svn trys to get externals from dev.wowace`
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`12:14.03`	`evl`	`http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=equipped4an.jpg`
`12:14.38`	`andg`	`nice`
`12:14.44`	`Nargiddley`	`ouch`
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`12:38.09`	`anenigma`	`hi. i don't actively develop mods, but I do run WoW under linux. as such, updating my mods via svn is much more preferred, compared to any automated win32 updater (or manual updating). is there anything wrong with checking out the mods I use, from svn.wowace.com, to keep them up to date? i hope to keep _at least_ a few weeks between updates, unless something is broke. is this going to cause problems?`
`12:40.12`	`[Ammo]`	`nothing wrong with that`
`12:40.26`	`[Ammo]`	`should work just fine`
`12:40.31`	`Gngsk`	`[04:15:23] <Iceroth> http://iceroth.net/update.txt <- rename to .pl and enjoy`
`12:40.45`	`JoshBork1`	`alternatively you could use www.wowace.com/files`
`12:40.54`	`Gngsk`	`other people do it too`
`12:41.30`	`anenigma`	`Gngsk: nice, but I have non-wowace mods (terrible I know), so that'll need some 'fixing'`
`12:41.40`	`Gngsk`	`not my script`
`12:41.44`	`anenigma`	`atm i just have a short list of ace mods that are going to get updated`
`12:41.46`	`anenigma`	`oh. hehe`
`12:41.54`	`Gngsk`	`just sayin', other people do it too!`
`12:42.21`	`Gngsk`	`you're just not supposed to check out /trunk`
`12:42.34`	`anenigma`	`yeah i'm not doing that`
`12:42.41`	`anenigma`	`and i'm ignoring externals`
`12:42.48`	`Gngsk`	`sounds kosher`
`12:45.07`	Funkeh`	`[Ammo]: can i borrow you for a second?`
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`12:57.13`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yo dude.. one thing`
`12:57.30`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: are you playing around with the normal blizzard bars in any way?`
`12:57.42`	`nevcairiel`	`no`
`12:57.55`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: k, since one bar uses the function you have problems with`
`12:58.06`	`nevcairiel`	`eh?`
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`12:58.30`	`Mikma`	`MultiBarBottomLeft or MultiBarBottomRight`
`12:59.57`	`[Ammo]`	`Funkeh: ?`
`13:00.26`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: UIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS["MultiBarBottomLeft"] = {baseY = 17, reputation = 9, maxLevel = -5, anchorTo = "ActionButton1", point = "BOTTOMLEFT", rpoint = "TOPLEFT"};`
`13:00.55`	`Mikma`	`that gave me problems with BT2 before but... since you ain't using it anywhere`
`13:03.03`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17553 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/koKR.lua: Cartographer : Update locals koKR`
`13:04.58`	`*** part/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`13:05.09`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i am not touching any globals anywhere`
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`13:05.42`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: righto`
`13:07.44`	`nevcairiel`	`and i havent had my QuestLog error for a while now`
`13:07.44`	`nevcairiel`	`looks good`
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`13:10.44`	`sbu`	`'morning`
`13:10.58`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: neat :) good job`
`13:11.23`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: what'cha think about the Bartender3 vs Bartender version 3?`
`13:11.57`	`Mikma`	`bye bye uranusbear`
`13:12.10`	`Gngsk`	`o_O`
`13:12.28`	`sbu`	`eh Mikma - had some strange BT3 behaviour... :)`
`13:12.42`	`sbu`	`but cannot reproduce`
`13:12.42`	`Mikma`	`sbu: /me points Nevcairiel, it's 99% his code`
`13:12.45`	`sbu`	`hehe`
`13:12.54`	`Mikma`	`well, 99.5%`
`13:13.01`	`Mikma`	`so i take credit for 0.5%`
`13:13.10`	`sbu`	`i pressed my key and the icon there reappeared under my cursor for dragging`
`13:13.18`	`sbu`	`well i guess you destroyed it then ;p`
`13:13.21`	`Mikma`	`sbu: you shift-pressed?`
`13:13.26`	`sbu`	`uhm no`
`13:13.32`	`sbu`	`just '1'`
`13:13.45`	`sbu`	`keyboard pressing, not mouse clicking`
`13:13.57`	`Mikma`	`lawl. that's weird but i'll put it under category "error between keyboard and seat"`
`13:14.01`	`sbu`	`thats whats strange about it :)`
`13:14.05`	`sbu`	`no! :p`
`13:14.11`	`sbu`	`its not ;)`
`13:14.14`	`Mikma`	`:D`
`13:14.30`	`Mikma`	`anyone need GMAIL accounts?`
`13:14.33`	`Mikma`	`i got 50 invites left`
`13:14.49`	`sbu`	`97 left :/`
`13:14.57`	`sbu`	`but still no TBC key`
`13:15.10`	`Mikma`	`ok i'll top that... i got 150 but 100 are on account that i will not use for invites :)`
`13:16.01`	`sbu`	`mh wait :p`
`13:16.18`	`sbu`	`50+97!`
`13:16.26`	`Mikma`	`i'm still leading :D`
`13:16.33`	`sbu`	`mh right`
`13:19.12`	`sbu`	`huh, happened again`
`13:19.13`	`sbu`	`wait`
`13:19.43`	`sbu`	`happens if you move your mouse + press some key on your keyboard`
`13:20.05`	`sbu`	`if i dont touch the mouse -> works fine`
`13:20.18`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: see, he has a problem`
`13:20.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i cant reproduce`
`13:21.05`	`nevcairiel`	`pressing and moving doesnt help`
`13:21.22`	`Mikma`	`sbu: update`
`13:21.48`	`sbu`	`already got latest svn`
`13:22.08`	`JoshBorke`	`morning`
`13:22.24`	`sbu`	`nevcairiel: bar1`
`13:22.33`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`13:22.42`	`nevcairiel`	`i click my keybinding move the mouse, nothing happens`
`13:23.18`	`sbu`	`mah`
`13:23.39`	`sbu`	`oh and btw - whats bar5+bar6? it isnt there w/ blizzard standard?`
`13:24.15`	`sbu`	`(and i cannot move 2+3)`
`13:24.15`	`nevcairiel`	`all bars shown after default setup should be standard bars`
`13:24.20`	`nevcairiel`	`just with different names`
`13:24.31`	`nevcairiel`	`2 is disabled atm`
`13:24.35`	`nevcairiel`	`3 should be movable`
`13:24.38`	`nevcairiel`	`all bars use the same code`
`13:24.45`	`nevcairiel`	`there cant be one bar not movable`
`13:24.48`	`sbu`	`oh ok`
`13:24.54`	`sbu`	`3 is movable`
`13:24.55`	`sbu`	`right`
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`13:28.54`	`sbu`	`nevcairiel: doesnt happen if bar is hidden`
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`13:32.01`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17554 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua:`
`13:32.01`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: AQ40/Ouro: Berserk Warning added`
`13:32.01`	`CIA-17`	`now properly removes submerge events when entering berserk`
`13:32.01`	`CIA-17`	`small frFR update`
`13:32.02`	`CIA-17`	`untested and needs translations`
`13:32.53`	`odt`	`wooh, got all 5 dragons in row`
`13:33.18`	`sbu`	`heh`
`13:33.21`	`sbu`	`grats`
`13:33.32`	`odt`	`ty, lots of dkp made`
`13:34.33`	`sbu`	`impossible here...`
`13:34.33`	`odt`	`we're on aláakir/europe`
`13:34.33`	`sbu`	`you can get 1, maybe 2...`
`13:34.33`	`odt`	`dragons are yesterdays news pretty much and we also are the biggest guild, so we can even get 30 ppl at odd hours`
`13:34.34`	Funkeh`	`on my server we pug dragons ;p`
`13:34.52`	`odt`	`pugs move too slow to get a shot imho`
`13:35.03`	`Gngsk`	`depends on the server`
`13:35.09`	Funkeh`	`actually most players are pretty expirienced now`
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`13:35.21`	`odt`	`i mean the logistics`
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`13:35.24`	`sbu`	`pug?`
`13:35.26`	Funkeh`	`our guild has no need for dragons so we just join in for fun sometimes`
`13:35.29`	`odt`	`pickup group`
`13:35.37`	`sbu`	`ah`
`13:35.54`	`odt`	Funkeh`: yeah, same with us i guess. ppl only show up on dragons to get dkp for mc/bwl/aq
`13:36.03`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r17555 10BigWigs/ (BWL/Razorgore.lua ZG/Hakkar.lua): BigWigs : update french locale`
`13:36.06`	Funkeh`	`hehe :P`
`13:36.07`	`odt`	`naxx is the only one we have on a different system`
`13:36.12`	`sbu`	`heh`
`13:36.27`	`sbu`	`we have aq/bwl/naxx vs. zg/aq20/ony/mc/dragons`
`13:36.52`	`Elkano`	`wipes vs piece of cake?`
`13:37.09`	`odt`	`would make more sense indeed, but we aren't changing the 2yr old system before tbc anymore`
`13:37.42`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r17556 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua:`
`13:37.42`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_RestFu:`
`13:37.42`	`CIA-17`	`- Added a new local called 'maxLevel' for easier use of the mod in the BC beta. Just have to change this one variable to 70 now instead of changing each comparison.`
`13:37.45`	`odt`	`enough trouble with our class/crossclass points already :)`
`13:37.56`	`odt`	`http://www.kalevlased.pri.ee/raid/index.php`
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`13:38.06`	`sbu`	`Elkano: well - bwl isnt wiping - but yep - only players with lots of epics (! :p) can do naxx/aq/... - so 2 dkp systems :)`
`13:39.21`	`Elkano`	`well, my guild is standing before chromagus atm, got 2 first try kills on ebonroc and firemaw yesterday iirc`
`13:39.38`	`Elkano`	`but still nothing for me... still not 60 ^^'`
`13:39.45`	`JoshBorke`	`Elkano: grats for your guild`
`13:39.56`	`odt`	`yeah, progress on any lvl is very motivating :)`
`13:40.03`	`odt`	`we're wiping at 4h at the moment`
`13:40.07`	`sbu`	`we killed instructor last week :)`
`13:40.16`	`FtH\|eagle`	`hi`
`13:40.18`	`sbu`	`but huhuran is going to be hard :/`
`13:40.19`	`odt`	`trying to make the top-20 in europe`
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`13:40.34`	`CIA-17`	`03moonsorrow * r17557 10GotWood/GotWood.toc:`
`13:40.34`	`CIA-17`	`GotWood:`
`13:40.34`	`CIA-17`	`- fixed dependencies in toc file`
`13:40.35`	`evl`	`huhuran makes me cry`
`13:40.43`	`evl`	`first you gotta get that NR, takes a couple of hours`
`13:40.44`	`Elkano`	`they are so motivated that they've sheduled another raid for tomorrow in order to maybe get Nefarian`
`13:40.48`	`evl`	`then there's the "keeping soakers alive"`
`13:40.58`	`evl`	`a nightmare if you don't have a disciplined raid`
`13:41.17`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17558 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua:`
`13:41.17`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: AQ40/Ouro: Removed frFR trigger for berserk since its wrong`
`13:41.17`	`CIA-17`	`could really use a big frFR update`
`13:41.31`	`sbu`	`Elkano: bring enough DKP for phase1 + AE (+invul. postion) for phase3 - easy fight then...`
`13:41.34`	`sbu`	`errr`
`13:41.35`	`sbu`	`DPS`
`13:41.37`	`sbu`	`not DKP :/`
`13:41.42`	`odt`	`i guess we're very hardcore, most ppl have 2 or more tier1/tier2 geared alts even`
`13:41.46`	`sbu`	`~selfstab`
`13:41.59`	`Azurewrath`	`http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/20/german.school.siege/index.html`
`13:41.59`	`evl`	`invul pots? :P`
`13:42.01`	`Azurewrath`	`omfg... i was at that school for like 1,5 years..`
`13:42.03`	`sbu`	`Azurewrath: yah :/`
`13:42.46`	`Azurewrath`	`it's about 4 kilometers from here`
`13:42.46`	`sbu`	`Azurewrath: uh... sigh`
`13:42.46`	`sbu`	`evl: uhm, yep? :p`
`13:42.50`	`sbu`	`evl: mages :p`
`13:43.11`	`JoshBorke`	`just use paladin`
`13:43.18`	`sbu`	`errr. yep :p`
`13:43.25`	`sbu`	`and if you dont have one? ;)`
`13:43.33`	`JoshBorke`	`MC one in with you :-P`
`13:43.38`	`sbu`	`uhm`
`13:43.39`	`sbu`	`:pp`
`13:44.09`	`JoshBorke`	`what happens if you summon someone who is MC'ing someone else? does the MC go with the summoned?`
`13:44.26`	`odt`	`nah, releases`
`13:47.11`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot 07TBC * r17559 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble-enUS.lua BigTrouble.lua BigTrouble.toc):`
`13:47.11`	`CIA-17`	`BigTrouble:`
`13:47.11`	`CIA-17`	`- A step in the right direction, do not use, kinda buggy.`
`13:48.48`	`odt`	`my favorite addon :)`
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`13:58.34`	`Mikma`	`http://mail.google.com/mail/help/notifier/notifier_mac.html woot`
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`14:26.37`	`beerke`	`usz, you here ?`
`14:26.48`	`Mikma`	`Gotwood works in TBC?`
`14:26.59`	`FtH\|eagle`	`yes`
`14:27.03`	`Mikma`	`neat`
`14:29.10`	`CIA-17`	`03cwdg * r17560 10ClosetGnome_Keybindings/Keybindings.lua: ClosetGnome_Keybindings:add Chinese localization of .lua.`
`14:31.49`	`odt`	`are there any ways to change what addons will be loaded with the next reloadui?`
`14:33.18`	`Mery`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#AddOn_Functions`
`14:34.31`	`odt`	`is there a gui for that?`
`14:34.46`	`FtH\|eagle`	`modmenutufu can do that afaik`
`14:35.01`	`FtH\|eagle`	`and mcp`
`14:35.04`	`odt`	`gonna need to troubleshoot some mods`
`14:35.06`	`odt`	`k, thanks`
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`14:42.20`	`beerke`	`uhm is anyone handy with textures and stuff. I made my own tab button but when it is drawn it looks like this http://www.xs4all.nl/~simenon/tabtextureproblem.jpg , when it is clicked it disables and looks normal`
`14:42.55`	`beerke`	`here is the rough code for it http://ace.pastey.net/2566`
`14:45.08`	`[Liquidor]`	`In an average living room there are 1,242 objects Chuck Norris could use to kill you, including the room itself.`
`14:45.40`	`usz`	`beerke, sup?`
`14:45.51`	`beerke`	`forums are down or unreachable usz`
`14:45.59`	`beerke`	`and i got texture problem in mod ^^`
`14:46.06`	`usz`	`idd, rebooted server, but it didnt go up by itself ^^`
`14:47.49`	`usz`	`hmmm, why code textures handling by yourself? Button frame got all the texture options you want`
`14:48.24`	`beerke`	`Cause they will contaminate my name space while it is not needed if i create them dynamically`
`14:48.45`	`beerke`	`besides it should be identical to the template yet it messes up somehow`
`14:49.05`	`usz`	`only issue with using SetNormalTexture, SetPushedTexture, SetDisabledTexture and SetHighlightTexture is that highlight misses ADD for blending`
`14:49.27`	`usz`	`still all texture swapping is done automatically by Button frame`
`14:50.01`	`beerke`	`only if i inherit the template`
`14:50.09`	`beerke`	`and name the frame`
`14:50.17`	`beerke`	`which will contaminate the namespace`
`14:50.35`	`usz`	`well you use CreateFrame("Button", ...`
`14:51.19`	`usz`	`so all texture stuff could be done like this http://ace.pastey.net/2567`
`14:52.19`	`sbu`	`hm`
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`14:52.40`	`beerke`	`uhm, that is not possible with the tabtexture usz`
`14:53.04`	`usz`	`how come?`
`14:53.32`	`beerke`	`as i need to split the tabtexture in 3 parts, namely left, middle and right`
`14:53.47`	`beerke`	`and i need to scale the middle part`
`14:53.55`	`beerke`	`which is all part of 1 texture`
`14:54.09`	`usz`	`pfff you make things too hard ^^`
`14:54.17`	`beerke`	`if i would set one tecture then the left and right would be stretched at resize and fuck it up`
`14:54.24`	`usz`	`why not just place buttons side by side?`
`14:54.31`	`beerke`	`nah it is not too hard`
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`14:54.41`	`beerke`	`the textures wirk if i press the button`
`14:54.47`	`beerke`	`but it fucks up onload`
`14:54.50`	`sbu`	`uhhhm`
`14:54.59`	`beerke`	`and the disabled part equals the enabled part`
`14:55.00`	`sbu`	`mendeleev fucked up ;p`
`14:55.08`	`beerke`	`so it does not make sense to me usz`
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`14:56.04`	`usz`	`on load you say?`
`14:56.07`	`sbu`	`item display gone w/ mendeleev + wow 1.12 :o`
`14:56.25`	`sbu`	`well it now only shows mendeelev info - no regular wow stuff`
`14:56.28`	`beerke`	`well lemme hacks my code so i can toggle the button to see if i click it again i get good texture`
`14:56.38`	`usz`	`beerke, try moving Enable() 6 lines up (line 77)`
`14:57.15`	`beerke`	`even the template does not do that usz ^^`
`14:57.30`	`beerke`	`but let me see if i toggle back out disabled if the texture is fine`
`14:58.13`	`usz`	`now which template you talk about?`
`14:58.24`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot 07TBC * r17561 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua:`
`14:58.24`	`CIA-17`	`BigTrouble:`
`14:58.24`	`CIA-17`	`- More steps on the way to tbc, all drycoded, not safe for general consumption.`
`14:58.26`	`sbu`	`Tekkub! :/`
`14:58.38`	`beerke`	`TabButtonTemplate something usz`
`14:59.16`	`beerke`	`CharacterFrameTabButtonTemplate`
`15:00.11`	`andg`	`someone stickyed the grid thread :p`
`15:00.13`	`beerke`	`anyways seems related to an on load problem only`
`15:00.32`	`usz`	`did you moved Enable() six lines up?`
`15:00.38`	`beerke`	`yes, did not work`
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`15:03.51`	`beerke`	`the disabled part works like it should usz, but the enabled part does not`
`15:04.04`	`beerke`	`either i made a huge dumb mistake or i am completely blind`
`15:05.25`	`usz`	`well you did it just like in UIPanelTemplates.lua so should work..`
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`15:05.59`	`beerke`	`yes, hence i don't get why it does not`
`15:15.12`	`pastamancer`	`andg: yeah, the grid thread has been stickied for over a week. I have no idea why.`
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`15:15.36`	`andg`	`well it's a great addon, so no harm done :D`
`15:15.46`	`andg`	`I just noticed it was on top all the time`
`15:15.54`	`andg`	`first I thought people just wrote in it all the time`
`15:16.03`	`pastamancer`	`haha`
`15:16.16`	`beerke`	`usz, told you it was a dumb mistake....`
`15:16.30`	`beerke`	`t:SetTexCoord(0,1.5625,0,1.0)`
`15:16.31`	`pastamancer`	`I only read the "Show unread posts sincel ast visit" page, so I didn't notice until maia told me`
`15:16.53`	`beerke`	`should be t:SetTexCoord(0,0.15625,0,1.0)`
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`15:21.21`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17562 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua Defaults.lua): Bartender3: Basic Cooldown Count`
`15:23.04`	`Silviu-`	`nevcairiel u rock :)`
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`15:28.28`	`Grine`	`ol`
`15:28.29`	`Grine`	`a`
`15:28.41`	`JoshBorke`	`aloha`
`15:29.01`	`Grine`	`time to finally try out fubar`
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`15:30.16`	`andg`	`http://explosm.net/comics/725/`
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`15:34.12`	`Grine`	`<3 Cyanide and happiness`
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`15:40.56`	`Grine`	`any way to make FuBar not go over the minimap?`
`15:41.48`	`FelixTeCat`	`I dont know I been wondering the same thing`
`15:42.05`	`Thrae`	`That's what the "auto-adjust" option does.`
`15:42.22`	`usz`	`idd, make sure you have "Auto adjust frames" checked`
`15:42.33`	`FelixTeCat`	`Ah`
`15:43.45`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17563 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: added scaling to the cooldown`
`15:44.01`	`Mikma`	`waddap`
`15:44.11`	`FelixTeCat`	`Does anyone know of a recruiting mod? I been looking for something that would auto spam the guild recruiting channel like every thirty mins or so.`
`15:44.31`	`Mikma`	`FelixTeCat: yeah. DIY is perfect for that usage!`
`15:44.42`	`FelixTeCat`	`:P`
`15:45.50`	`Grine`	`I mean I want my minimap in the top corner but I don't want the FuBar Panels ontop of it`
`15:46.35`	`Neebler`	`then remove the top fubar panel by right clicking it and going to "remove panel"`
`15:47.03`	`weab`	`what do you mean by "on top" of it`
`15:47.18`	`weab`	`jostle should push it down so they don't overlap`
`15:47.27`	`Grine`	`nvm :P`
`15:47.40`	`Grine`	`I'll just try and find the strata settings or something`
`15:48.22`	`Arrowmaster`	`Grine, one of the best and most under used features of fubar is when you move your mouse to the edge of the bar and get the sword curser then click and drag`
`15:48.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`try it and it might solve your problem`
`15:48.52`	`Grine`	`Arrowmaster: I wub yo :)`
`15:49.01`	`Grine`	`precisely what I was looking for`
`15:49.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`and its so underused`
`15:49.16`	`Grine`	`thanks too the rest aswell, sorry for the crappy explanation :P`
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`15:49.28`	Funkeh`	`hey`
`15:50.02`	`phyber`	`Arrowmaster: I'm not sure why, it seems logical. (I use that to position the bar at the bottom of my screen).`
`15:50.27`	`phyber`	`maybe they've just never resized a window in their OS or something.`
`15:50.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`its interesting it use with detached panels to make little floating panels`
`15:51.08`	`weab`	`when it takes up the entire edge by default`
`15:51.12`	`weab`	`it's not entirely obvious`
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`15:52.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah when you find the detached panel setting and start wondering wtf its for, thats when it becomes easyer to discover the resizing`
`15:52.23`	`weab`	`and UI's usually have litle draggy bar indicator things that people are used to`
`15:52.25`	`weab`	`which fubar lacks`
`15:52.30`	`weab`	`and the icon for resizing is stupid`
`15:52.34`	`weab`	`s/icon/cursor/`
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`15:52.54`	`phyber`	`no, the sword is perfect! cutting it down to size, etc ;)`
`15:53.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`something like the <-> from windows would be better`
`15:53.42`	`weab`	`if you have it taking the whole screen and move the cursor to the right side you don't see that it changes, so unless you already know it does resize you might assume that means it doesn't`
`15:53.57`	`weab`	`Arrowmaster: yeah, many many months ago i complained about ck about that :P`
`15:54.35`	`sbu`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5831-1-gnomehaterwhispercast.html`
`15:54.35`	`sbu`	`LOL`
`15:54.36`	`sbu`	`:)`
`15:54.51`	`phyber`	`maybe a raid warning message when you get to the edge of the screen "FuBar resizing, MORE DOTS!"`
`15:55.02`	`Grine`	`meh that didn't really work either :P`
`15:55.14`	`Grine`	`I'll just set the transperancy to 0 and be happy :)`
`15:55.51`	`weab`	`there was no API to change the cursor to a texture that didn't already exist was the problem. which i thought he complained to slouken about and got fixed`
`15:56.04`	`weab`	`but apparently not`
`15:57.33`	`phyber`	`SetCursor() should accept a path to a graphic.`
`15:57.43`	`phyber`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetCursor`
`16:00.38`	`weab`	`so he bothered to get slouken to fix it but never used it`
`16:00.43`	`weab`	`that's a little funny`
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`16:02.46`	`Antiarc`	`Morning.`
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`16:03.19`	`MentalPower\|ZZzz`	`The problem with SetCursor() is that it doesn't cache the texture, instead it reads it from disk every frame`
`16:03.41`	`Antiarc`	`....ouch, are you serious?`
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`16:04.47`	`weab`	`it's not very often you need to resize a panel though.`
`16:07.09`	`MentalPower`	`I believe so, someone did some tests with it and concluded that`
`16:07.33`	`MentalPower`	`the other limitation is that it only accepts .blp files`
`16:08.01`	`Antiarc`	`Reading from disk every frame just seems...far too naieve.`
`16:09.30`	`MentalPower`	`naïve*`
`16:09.32`	`MentalPower`	`:)`
`16:10.27`	`weab`	`sounds like it was just quickly hacked in`
`16:10.40`	`MentalPower`	`probably`
`16:10.41`	`weab`	`rather than naivety`
`16:11.54`	`Grine`	`why the heck are the FuBar standard minimap buttons on framestrata background?`
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`16:12.46`	`lassizci`	`I feel a bit stupid but how am I supposed to change fubar background texture?`
`16:13.13`	`lassizci`	`or.. how do I make my own ones appear in it's texture menu`
`16:13.13`	`FelixTeCat`	`FuTexture`
`16:13.32`	`lassizci`	`ok, thank you`
`16:13.36`	`FelixTeCat`	`Its a add on that allows other textures`
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`16:16.50`	`andg`	`I need Miles`
`16:18.01`	`Grine`	`how can I turn off the standard blizzard bufframe?`
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`16:22.21`	`Saroz`	`hey peeps`
`16:22.41`	Funkeh`	`hey Saroz`
`16:26.00`	`andg`	`hey Cairenn, I have a question`
`16:26.12`	`Cairenn`	`hey andg, I may have an answer`
`16:26.29`	`andg`	`Is is possible to have shared athoring on an addon on wowinterface?`
`16:26.43`	`andg`	`It's just that Miles isn't here, but I'd like to update a new version of aguf BC on wowi`
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`16:28.19`	`Cairenn`	`andg: PM`
`16:29.42`	`Cairenn`	`andg: /msg nickserv identify <pw> ... I'm not seeing your responses, if any`
`16:29.55`	`andg`	`ah, I am at work... No perform`
`16:29.57`	`andg`	`two secs`
`16:30.03`	`andg`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`16:30.05`	`Cairenn`	`gotcha`
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`16:30.12`	ag`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:30.16`	ag`	`haha`
`16:30.20`	`JoshBorke`	`o.o`
`16:30.21`	ag`	`oh snap`
`16:30.32`	`Cairenn`	`lol, ummm, might want to stop with the extra whitespace ;)`
`16:30.37`	ag`	`oh yes`
`16:30.39`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`16:30.41`	`JoshBorke`	`wow, twice`
`16:30.55`	ag`	`I might need to change my password`
`16:31.02`	`JoshBorke`	`just might`
`16:31.12`	`JoshBorke`	`not like purl logs everything...`
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`16:32.33`	`Cairenn`	`ummm, yeah, I definitely foresee a pw change in your future ;)`
`16:32.55`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`16:33.06`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17564 10BigWigs/AQ40/Defenders.lua: BigWigs: AQ40/Defenders: lets sync thunderclap, tell me if this fixes the problem with not seeing the warning sometimes.`
`16:33.34`	`phyber`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:34.16`	`Cairenn`	`phyber: correct`
`16:34.24`	`Cairenn`	`but still`
`16:38.37`	`MoonWolf`	`Tekkub, are you there ?`
`16:39.37`	`CIA-17`	`03jerry * r17565 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras : updated french locale`
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`16:46.59`	`Saroz`	`freaking SVN update is fubar`
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`16:55.20`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17567 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.toc: PerfectRaid: not being updated for a while, lets fix the zip until that time`
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`17:05.21`	`Mery`	`slightly late, but purl doesn't log lines starting with a space, JoshBorke :) (not that the 140+ people in the channel aren't enough)`
`17:05.38`	`Antiarc`	`Interesting.`
`17:05.47`	`Antiarc`	`Is that intentional, or a side-effect of something else?`
`17:05.48`	`JoshBorke`	`Mery: also slightly repititios ;-)`
`17:06.04`	`JoshBorke`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:06.10`	`Mery`	`yeah lol`
`17:06.17`	`Mery`	`overread that line somehow ...`
`17:06.28`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07TBC * r17568 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: cooldown does now work correctly with stance changing`
`17:06.30`	`Mery`	`Antiarc: intentional`
`17:07.24`	`DrDre`	`hahahahaha`
`17:07.28`	`DrDre`	`Xzin has 5 beta accounts`
`17:07.30`	`DrDre`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3471302298396612214`
`17:08.40`	`DrDre`	`Zin rules`
`17:08.43`	`DrDre`	`i wish i could do that`
`17:10.20`	`Antiarc`	`This is freakin' hilarious. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/11/20/canadians_smash_ps3/`
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`17:36.50`	`Grine`	`anyone know a replacement for POisonFu?`
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`17:40.58`	`CIA-17`	`03sylfi * r17569 10PlayerRating/PlayerRatingDisplay.lua:`
`17:40.58`	`CIA-17`	`PlayerRating:`
`17:40.58`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed the functions hooking into the GameTooltip to properly call the hooked script before completing.`
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`18:02.58`	`Neronix`	`Metal Slug Anthology's coming to europe after all ^^`
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`18:10.26`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r17570 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/koKR.lua: Cartographer : Update locals koKR`
`18:13.40`	`Tain`	`Aww Peter Jackson isn't going to be doing The Hobbit movie.`
`18:13.56`	`nevcairiel`	`not ? :(`
`18:14.11`	`nevcairiel`	`whats up with the wowace page? its damn slow`
`18:14.44`	`KarlThePagan`	`new batch of beta keys went out over the weekend`
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`18:15.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`there may be a batch of new ppl looking for TBC compliant addons`
`18:17.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea, looks like the key I recieved was sent out Fri 17th`
`18:17.46`	`KarlThePagan`	`<-- Baysick on Hellfire`
`18:20.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`(healbot btw ... omg so many tells :P)`
`18:20.34`	`pastamancer`	`there are non-shadow priests on hellfire?!`
`18:20.43`	`KarlThePagan`	`there is now lol`
`18:20.53`	`JoshBorke`	`my priest is not a shadow priest...`
`18:20.59`	`KarlThePagan`	`we'll see if my shadow or healer levels faster`
`18:21.55`	`pastamancer`	`I specced shadow to give it a try. The only +shadow gear I have is anathema though.`
`18:22.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`heh`
`18:22.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`I've got 450 +dmg`
`18:22.40`	`KarlThePagan`	`on live i play 32/19/0 ultra smite lol build`
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`18:23.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`but I forsee running totally out of mana if I try to kill anyone in tbc`
`18:23.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`with smite`
`18:23.49`	`pastamancer`	`I rock the 20/31/0 raid healbot on live except I went 14/2/33 (I think those are the right numbers) temporarialy to farm CC faction.`
`18:24.05`	`KarlThePagan`	`nice`
`18:24.15`	`Mikma`	`http://mikma.reaktio.net/IMG_1101.JPG`
`18:24.19`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea that's the good thing about 32/19/0... heal and solo same spec`
`18:24.20`	`JoshBorke`	`i think i've got 31/15/5 right now`
`18:24.30`	`Cairenn`	`Mikma: awwwwww`
`18:24.32`	`KarlThePagan`	`spirit tap ftw`
`18:24.37`	`pastamancer`	`seriously`
`18:24.37`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, i was lvling`
`18:24.39`	`Mikma`	`Cairenn: will come into house tomorrow :)`
`18:24.40`	`JoshBorke`	`haven't respec'd yet`
`18:24.49`	`Cairenn`	`Mikma: awwwwww`
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`18:25.18`	`pastamancer`	`how's grid been working for you in beta?`
`18:25.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`smite & holy nova give you cheap killing blows too ;)`
`18:25.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`I started using grid on live`
`18:25.30`	`KarlThePagan`	`i love grid`
`18:25.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`with one request`
`18:25.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`I would like the filter mechanism in Detox to apply to grid`
`18:26.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`because I find that I can effectively decurse 90% of the time, but cases like Geddon I can't easily tell who is a mana user or not`
`18:26.21`	`pastamancer`	`that's just someone adding a bunch of debuffs by name and setting the class filters`
`18:26.29`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea`
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`18:26.46`	`KarlThePagan`	`but it would seriously rock if it would just hide the debuffs on classes that don't need to be cured`
`18:27.08`	`pastamancer`	`It sure would`
`18:27.25`	`KarlThePagan`	`that would make grid a PERFECT healer addon`
`18:27.42`	`KarlThePagan`	`and I mean perfect... I stopped using an emergency meter and 90% of the time I don't use detox anymore`
`18:27.54`	`pastamancer`	`if only someone would spend the time to copy the buff filters from detox!`
`18:28.02`	`KarlThePagan`	`... someone might`
`18:28.12`	`KarlThePagan`	`but I have to debug some C code today :P`
`18:28.23`	`pastamancer`	`it was worth a try :p`
`18:28.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`lol seriously I think I will do it if you give me a few days :)`
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`18:32.44`	`pastamancer`	`well, I added class filtering to the auras module over the weekend, so it should just be a matter of adding defaults`
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`18:41.43`	`Amadeo`	`I'm tempted to buy a Wii`
`18:41.57`	`Amadeo`	`speaking of ...other consoles`
`18:41.59`	`Amadeo`	`:P`
`18:42.01`	`Xuerian`	`Would if I had the extra money. What game is pulling at you? :P`
`18:42.14`	`\|Pixel\|`	`zeldaa`
`18:42.15`	`Amadeo`	`None in particular, just haven't bought a console in years`
`18:42.19`	`\|Pixel\|`	`whoops, sorry`
`18:42.25`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`18:42.32`	`Amadeo`	`I think the last one I bought was Genesis :P`
`18:42.33`	`[Liquidor]`	`Murlocs will rule over the world (or at least the gnomes): http://www.blizzard.co.uk/inblizz/contests/artcontest2006/images/w19.jpg`
`18:42.45`	`Xuerian`	`Zelda would be fun, yeah.... So long as they haven't fucked the swordfighting over as far s was rumored`
`18:43.16`	`Amadeo`	`Plus I can't afford $600 for a gimmicky PS3 :P`
`18:44.00`	`Xuerian`	`The demo ps3 they had in store looked like crap. Sharp TVs reveal badly aliased edges, along with no lovely stuff like HDR`
`18:44.53`	`Xuerian`	`Well, either badly aliased edges, or skimping out on vertexes and resulting in sharp lines.`
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`18:45.54`	`_Alastair_`	`hey if you download ace2 mods with no externals and download the !!librarys then will unused !!librarsy get unloaded in the first garbige collection?`
`18:45.56`	`Amadeo`	`Blu-Ray is just too much for a console as far as I'm concerned...maybe it'll be nice in 5 years, but not now`
`18:46.35`	`Xuerian`	`_Alastair_: Sorta.`
`18:46.59`	`Xuerian`	`_Alastair_: If you get !!!StandaloneLibraries, like both guides on the wiki for WAU suggest, unused libs will not even load in the first place`
`18:47.24`	`_Alastair_`	`ok :)`
`18:54.04`	`[Liquidor]`	`Uhm who do you contact when you can't login to the forums? :S I mean, I can't create a post about it on the Website Forum.`
`18:55.30`	`_Alastair_`	`when i downloaedd !!!StandaloneLibrarys the readme said it would contain empty folders but it dosent`
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`18:56.10`	`Xuerian`	`_Alastair_: What did you download it with?`
`18:56.26`	`_Alastair_`	`winace`
`18:57.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`pastamancer added story (spec) for detox filter in grid on wiki discussion page`
`18:57.52`	`Xuerian`	`Download it in your browser: http://wowace.com/files/!!!StandaloneLibraries/!!!StandaloneLibraries.zip`
`18:58.01`	`_Alastair_`	`ok`
`18:58.18`	`Xuerian`	`Did you find the guide on the wiki, or did you not look, _Alastair_?`
`18:58.40`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r17571 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: A few nasties`
`18:58.41`	`_Alastair_`	`didnt look`
`18:59.08`	`Xuerian`	`Shame, shame, shame.... Look next time ;) http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater has a full guide to it.`
`18:59.32`	`_Alastair_`	`looking now xD`
`18:59.47`	`Xuerian`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons also has a guide.`
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`19:00.32`	`Xuerian`	`[Liquidor]: I think kergoth handles the forums?`
`19:01.13`	`pastamancer`	`KarlThePagan: that belongs on the wishlist page`
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`19:01.27`	`KarlThePagan`	`moving`
`19:01.47`	`pastamancer`	`it's already there, just remove it from the grid talk page and add to the existing discussion`
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`19:02.22`	`KarlThePagan`	`k`
`19:03.34`	`pastamancer`	`also, a user story, how XP of you :)`
`19:04.04`	`KarlThePagan`	`I'm one of the primary drivers to adopt XP in my org`
`19:04.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`tho I need to beat myself into doing more TDD`
`19:05.30`	`pastamancer`	`the grid wishlist page needs more user stories`
`19:05.41`	`pastamancer`	`or at least better use-cases`
`19:08.40`	`KarlThePagan`	`I'm deffinately evangelizing Grid amongst my guild healers`
`19:09.13`	`KarlThePagan`	`I may be class lead eventually... our current class lead is falling off in raid attendance and may not level up`
`19:09.28`	`KarlThePagan`	`that or she's playing beta during raids and will own me come release`
`19:10.20`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r17572 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Fix for CT_RaidAssist and Badapples tabs; Mobile Frames is MobileFrames, a couple of Main Menu Bar changes`
`19:11.57`	`KarlThePagan`	`pastamancer: ideas on what issues would arise if Grid takes over the Detox AceDB?`
`19:12.00`	`KarlThePagan`	`since Detox won't load in 2.0 is it an issue?`
`19:12.07`	`KarlThePagan`	`or has it been updated?`
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`19:16.30`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all !`
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`19:18.15`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r17573 10Fizzle/FizzleLocale-koKR.lua:`
`19:18.15`	`CIA-17`	`Fizzle:`
`19:18.15`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed missing comma in koKR locale.`
`19:18.58`	`pastamancer`	`KarlThePagan: you could write something that would import Detox settings, but Grid shouldn't commandeer the Detox settings`
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`19:19.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`rgr`
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`19:27.46`	`pastamancer`	`KarlThePagan: incoming GridStatusAuras change, just for you :)`
`19:28.01`	`CIA-17`	`03pastamancer * r17574 10Grid/ (GridLayout.lua GridStatusAuras.lua):`
`19:28.01`	`CIA-17`	`Grid:`
`19:28.01`	`CIA-17`	`- GridLayout: use header config function to set frame height/width in combat.`
`19:28.01`	`CIA-17`	`- GridStatusAuras: ignore attempts to add a (de)buff that already has settings`
`19:30.26`	`nevcairiel`	`Saroz that renew display on people is quite anoying`
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`19:36.53`	`DrDre`	`SlashCmdList["BANK"] = BagnonFrame_Toggle("Banknon")`
`19:36.53`	`DrDre`	`SLASH_BANK1 = "/bank"`
`19:36.57`	`DrDre`	`why does that not work?`
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`19:38.24`	`DrDre`	`are you limited to 1 slash command def?`
`19:38.35`	`DrDre`	`cuz i have another one above it`
`19:38.40`	`DrDre`	`SlashCmdList["FFXI"] = function( strMessage )SendChatMessage(strMessage, "GUILD") end`
`19:38.40`	`DrDre`	`SLASH_FFXI1 = "/l"`
`19:38.55`	`DrDre`	`and that one works`
`19:39.29`	`Xuerian`	`function() BagnonFrame_Toggle("Banknon") end`
`19:39.43`	`DrDre`	`has to be in function() ?`
`19:39.52`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah`
`19:39.55`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: ping
`19:39.57`	`DrDre`	`ah didnt know that`
`19:39.58`	`KarlThePagan`	`no, but you probably didn't define BagnonFrame_Toggle before that line`
`19:40.08`	`DrDre`	`its saying no command exists`
`19:40.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`wait, really nev?`
`19:40.17`	`nevcairiel`	`it doesnt _need_ to`
`19:40.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`k`
`19:40.24`	`nevcairiel`	`but it avoids a lot of problems if you do`
`19:40.26`	`DrDre`	`then why isnt it working?`
`19:40.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`yea`
`19:40.35`	`nevcairiel`	`just place it in the function()`
`19:40.37`	`nevcairiel`	`and try`
`19:40.39`	`DrDre`	`SlashCmdList["TNE"] = TargetNearestEnemy()`
`19:40.40`	`DrDre`	`SLASH_TNE1 = "/tne"`
`19:40.42`	`DrDre`	`also isnt working`
`19:40.57`	`Xuerian`	`also isn't wrapped in function.`
`19:41.16`	`DrDre`	`yeah but he said doesnt NEED to :P`
`19:41.27`	`Amadeo`	`There's a guy from CastSpell next to me`
`19:41.41`	`DrDre`	`wrapping it in function makes them work so i guess it is needed?`
`19:42.18`	`nevcairiel`	`in your case it is then`
`19:42.24`	`nevcairiel`	`but its not needed in general`
`19:43.01`	`DrDre`	`the /l comes in handy for ppl who played FFXI >_>`
`19:43.18`	`Xuerian`	`How does /l equate to /g? >.>`
`19:43.26`	`Xuerian`	`In a FFXI setting.`
`19:43.32`	`DrDre`	`in FFXI our "guild" was "linkshells" and we used /l`
`19:43.40`	`DrDre`	`so i was use to typing /l to talk`
`19:43.43`	`Xuerian`	`ahh`
`19:44.02`	`Amadeo`	`Croc-Hunters Rifle of the Falcon`
`19:44.03`	`Amadeo`	`:(`
`19:46.27`	`Xuerian`	`o.0`
`19:46.48`	`Xuerian`	`That's not literally a item is it?`
`19:47.05`	`Amadeo`	`yep`
`19:47.26`	`Xuerian`	`Why the heck did they make a rifle with that name? If anything he was for preservation.... o.0`
`19:47.46`	`Amadeo`	`I dunno :(`
`19:47.47`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i wish ffxi had a ui scripting system`
`19:47.50`	`SP\|Sorren`	`ffxi ui was so bad :(`
`19:48.01`	`Xuerian`	`That's fucked up.`
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`19:48.27`	`Amadeo`	`I liked Steve Irwin`
`19:49.07`	`kebinusan`	`anyone know if you have to reset CoT dark portal every time you wipe ?`
`19:49.32`	`Tain`	`Even FFXII has a limited scripting system.`
`19:49.36`	`Tain`	`And that's single player.`
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`19:50.18`	`beerke`	`bigwigs has a version check, does that also work for plugins like nef count, loatheb tact or healbot assist and such ?`
`19:50.43`	`SP\|Sorren`	`well ffxi had a sort of macro system`
`19:50.49`	`SP\|Sorren`	`it was just kinda tedious`
`19:50.56`	`SP\|Sorren`	`and there weren't enough key binds`
`19:51.02`	`vhaarr`	`beerke: Depends.`
`19:51.21`	`vhaarr`	`beerke: If the plugin is registered with a zone, it will count to the version check.`
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`19:54.05`	`beerke`	`well i assume bigwigs thaddius arrows is included with the zone, but i don't seee it show up at the version check`
`19:54.19`	`vhaarr`	`beerke: That's not how it works.`
`19:54.36`	`vhaarr`	`It iterates the modules for the given zone and reports the highest revision found.`
`19:55.03`	`beerke`	`So i can never find out what moduel revisions other people run ?`
`19:55.12`	`vhaarr`	`Not yet.`
`19:55.39`	`DrDre`	`how can I make it sticky to guild? as in set default to guild next time chat box is opened`
`19:55.40`	`Elkano`	`vhaarr, you have coded on AuldLangSyne, haven't you?`
`19:55.44`	`vhaarr`	`Elkano: I have.`
`19:55.45`	`beerke`	`Not yet, sounds promising at least ^^`
`19:55.48`	`Elkano`	AuldLangSyne\\AuldLangSyne.lua:486: attempt to call field `GetWhoInfo' (a nil value)
`19:55.57`	`vhaarr`	`Elkano: Is that in 1.12?`
`19:56.02`	`Elkano`	`yes`
`19:57.11`	`DrDre`	`anyone >_>?`
`19:58.06`	`SP\|Sorren`	`doesn't it do that automatically?`
`19:58.40`	`vhaarr`	`Elkano: How do I reproduce?`
`19:59.02`	`pastamancer`	`insert tab a into slot b. repeat.`
`19:59.10`	`DrDre`	`im aliasing /l to /g, im wanting it to basically act as i did /g but if i do /l it wont open guild as the default method if it wasnt used last`
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`19:59.23`	`SP\|Sorren`	`hmm`
`19:59.25`	`DrDre`	`it still has the last method as sticky`
`19:59.27`	`SP\|Sorren`	`you have devtools?`
`19:59.31`	`DrDre`	`me?`
`19:59.32`	`DrDre`	`yes`
`19:59.36`	`Elkano`	`it simply happend for me; also broke the who frame such that it wasn't showing up anymore when clicking the tab. maybe it's related to corpsinfo's who request`
`19:59.47`	`SP\|Sorren`	`try dump SlashCmdList["GUILD"]`
`19:59.54`	`vhaarr`	`Elkano: I'm guessing it's a problem with the AceHook-2.1 for 1.12.`
`20:00.12`	`SP\|Sorren`	`if thats what's called when you do g`
`20:00.18`	`SP\|Sorren`	`then just do another slash command for it`
`20:00.28`	`SP\|Sorren`	`SLASH_GUILD5 = "/l" or something`
`20:00.30`	`Elkano`	`could be`
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`20:07.36`	`Kalamadi`	`PTR's all like "LOL KICK" again =(`
`20:08.38`	`SP\|Sorren`	`the PTR is full of hate.`
`20:08.41`	`SP\|Sorren`	`and anger.`
`20:09.23`	`Tain`	`Give in to the dark side.`
`20:09.39`	`Elkano`	`~seen kodewolf`
`20:09.59`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'kodewolf', Elkano`
`20:10.10`	`Elkano`	`~seen kodewulf`
`20:10.27`	`purl`	`kodewulf <n=Kodewulf@220-253-43-248.VIC.netspace.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21h 9m 37s ago, saying: 'kergoth: yeah... i hate that guy... :) i'll see if i can track down that stack overflow... '.`
`20:10.28`	Arrowmaster`	`i havent been able to logon to my char on ptr since the middle of last week`
`20:13.27`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone can help me with some code using secure templates ? http://ace.pastey.net/2575`
`20:13.31`	`cncfanatics`	`it ain't working for some reason`
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`20:15.23`	`Amadeo`	`Rogues are sick in the expansion`
`20:15.35`	`yacoob`	`you mean, undead? Then yes. :)`
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`20:16.05`	`Amadeo`	`no, any`
`20:16.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`cannibalize ftw`
`20:18.52`	`Amadeo`	`Had a NE Rogue kill me before I could do anything`
`20:18.56`	`Amadeo`	`and I have 6500 HP`
`20:19.52`	`KarlThePagan`	`maybe i should consider pain suppression`
`20:20.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`not that it will keep me from being stunlocked`
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`20:20.42`	`Amadeo`	`I heard it's not worth it`
`20:20.57`	`Amadeo`	`since you put PW:S on top of it and it just gets wasted anyway`
`20:23.10`	`Amadeo`	`I think someone said if you have PW:S up, it won't negate incoming damage`
`20:23.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`wow i started reading one of the many warlock qq posts on the test realm forum and i really want to strangle somebody right now, i swear nobody that doesnt play a 60 lock has any clue how the class even works or how the game mechanics even work.... like why the fuck do so many moron think dots can crit`
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`20:25.44`	`cncfanatics`	`cuz they're morons, u answered ur own question :p`
`20:25.58`	`kebinusan`	`Arrowmaster: heh`
`20:26.17`	`Amadeo`	`DoTs could crit in DAoC :)`
`20:26.20`	`Amadeo`	`that was awesome`
`20:26.50`	`yacoob`	`DAoC?`
`20:27.00`	`a-stray-cat`	`man if warlock dots could crit i'd roll one ;o`
`20:27.14`	`a-stray-cat`	`dark age of camelot`
`20:27.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`some moron was bitching about the felguard soloing level 60 elites on its own every single time and not dying saying if players can barely solo level 60 elites then its way overpowered, lucky some rogue called him a moron and he should cancel his account for not being able to solo a 60 elite`
`20:28.07`	`cncfanatics`	`lol, felguard can solo 60 elites at 60 ?`
`20:28.14`	`cncfanatics`	`that IS a bit imba, but well -.-`
`20:28.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`well it is ment to be a dps pet`
`20:28.38`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119)`
`20:28.38`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`20:28.42`	`a-stray-cat`	`with bw, my pet can solo a 60 elite (its a cat)`
`20:28.48`	`Azurewrath`	`cncfanatics: i've seen a 67 Warlock solo a lvl 68 Elite Questmob with a Felguard..`
`20:28.49`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`20:28.51`	`KarlThePagan`	`dps/tank/pvp/pwnface everything apparently`
`20:28.52`	`a-stray-cat`	`hello`
`20:29.07`	`a-stray-cat`	`don't unfreeze till tbc comes out imo`
`20:29.13`	`ckknight`	`I have TBC on my computer!`
`20:29.34`	`yacoob`	`a-stray-cat, I lack motivation, to put it simply :)`
`20:29.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`a-stray-cat, are you talking about in live or beta? because your cats going to be a lot more powerful in ptr/beta/tbc`
`20:29.39`	`ckknight`	`one issue is that I need to download a whole bunch of patches and I'm behind a firewall`
`20:29.39`	`cncfanatics`	`dps pet, not tank & dps`
`20:29.41`	`a-stray-cat`	`ah`
`20:29.46`	`ckknight`	`anyone happen to have the TBC patches for enUS?`
`20:29.47`	`a-stray-cat`	`beta`
`20:29.53`	`a-stray-cat`	`it doesnt stand a chance on live`
`20:29.55`	`a-stray-cat`	`with tbw`
`20:29.57`	`a-stray-cat`	`er`
`20:29.57`	`a-stray-cat`	`bw`
`20:30.04`	`ckknight`	`I'm currently at 2.0.0.6022`
`20:30.11`	`pastamancer`	`ckknight: I do for mac`
`20:30.21`	`ckknight`	`pastamancer, PC here.`
`20:30.34`	`Mikma`	`anUS`
`20:30.38`	`pastamancer`	`then you'll have to wait until I get home`
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`20:31.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`seems balanced to me, a hunter with a 31 point talent has a pet that can solo a 60 elite, a warlock with a 41 point talent has a pet that can solo a 60 elite`
`20:31.04`	`ckknight`	`stop that, mikma`
`20:31.07`	`a-stray-cat`	`on beta though, w/o bw my pet can hardly solo an even level mob`
`20:31.11`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: newah! why?`
`20:31.15`	`a-stray-cat`	`without bw`
`20:31.29`	`a-stray-cat`	`even w ith 41 bm ;o`
`20:31.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`ckknight I just deleted all mine :(`
`20:31.36`	`a-stray-cat`	`maybe if i got a tanking pet`
`20:31.44`	`ckknight`	`KarlThePagan, :-(`
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`20:32.06`	`KarlThePagan`	`but I'm in /dance`
`20:33.15`	`a-stray-cat`	`http://www.sock-puppets.com/dragonfly/index.php?name=Downloads&c=2 ckknight see if that works for you`
`20:33.23`	`a-stray-cat`	`it may be members only though :<`
`20:34.13`	`ckknight`	`I have to be registered`
`20:34.19`	`a-stray-cat`	`;<`
`20:34.31`	`a-stray-cat`	`lemme see ask my gm if i can unlock it for you lol`
`20:34.35`	`Neronix`	`hmm, has anyone ever boasted about their mod-coder status irl? :P`
`20:34.37`	`ckknight`	`okay.`
`20:34.39`	`ckknight`	`coolness`
`20:34.49`	`ckknight`	`so should I register?`
`20:34.56`	`ckknight`	`Neronix,`
`20:34.58`	`a-stray-cat`	`i don't talk about WoW irl`
`20:35.00`	`ckknight`	`I totally have.`
`20:35.09`	`KarlThePagan`	`Neronix - put it on your resume IMO`
`20:35.15`	`ckknight`	`and I was at a programming tournament recently`
`20:35.22`	`a-stray-cat`	`its creepy when you talk about it IRL and the woman behind you in the grocery checkout line tells you that she plays an alliance paladin >.>`
`20:35.23`	`ckknight`	`and I saw a guy in a horde shirt`
`20:35.31`	`Neronix`	`Heh, I was talking with the party in front of me in the queue for the Wii Move You Tour the other day`
`20:35.38`	`ckknight`	`and I talked to him`
`20:35.38`	`Neronix`	`turned out they play WoW`
`20:35.44`	`Neronix`	`Me: "I wrote MH3!"`
`20:35.47`	`Neronix`	`Them: ":O!!"`
`20:35.49`	`ckknight`	`and he was a complete doofus when I comes to mods`
`20:35.52`	`kergoth`	`lol Neronix`
`20:35.59`	`ckknight`	`Me: "I wrote FuBar!"`
`20:36.06`	`ckknight`	`Them: "What's an 'addon'?'`
`20:36.10`	`kergoth`	`:(`
`20:36.11`	`Neronix`	`lol`
`20:36.13`	`pastamancer`	`haha`
`20:36.20`	`KarlThePagan`	`Addons mean U HAX mang! gtfo haxor`
`20:36.32`	`KarlThePagan`	`I know ppl like that lol`
`20:36.44`	`kergoth`	`jesus christ this ddrop rate for plump buzzard wings in hellfire peninsula sucks ass`
`20:36.55`	`Neronix`	`KarlThePagan: That's one reason I started writing mods in the first place :P`
`20:37.01`	`KarlThePagan`	`ahha word`
`20:37.14`	`Neronix`	`I mean the resume thing`
`20:37.18`	`KarlThePagan`	`if it weren't for software piracy i'd be a security noob`
`20:37.21`	`Neronix`	`not for hax`
`20:37.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`if it weren't for game modding i'd be an open source noob`
`20:37.38`	`a-stray-cat`	`ckknight: register on our forums`
`20:37.43`	`a-stray-cat`	`i'll add you to the tbc group`
`20:37.47`	`kergoth`	`if it werent for software piracy i'd have had a decent GPA in high school`
`20:38.17`	`ckknight`	`registered.`
`20:38.21`	`KarlThePagan`	`heh i blame irc on that one`
`20:38.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`me too`
`20:38.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`but not really`
`20:39.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`since i never did homework anyway and never would have`
`20:39.12`	`ckknight`	`a-stray-cat, name's ckknight`
`20:40.01`	`kergoth`	`heh, point, arrow. homework sucks. let me ace the tests and leave me alone otherwise, fuckers`
`20:40.27`	`ckknight`	`a-stray-cat, okay, cogwheel is setting me up with that patches.`
`20:40.29`	`ckknight`	`thanks anyway.`
`20:40.37`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, you got tbc installed?`
`20:40.37`	`phyber`	`is Bartender3 TBC only or will it work on live servers too?`
`20:40.46`	`Neronix`	`TBC`
`20:40.48`	`phyber`	`I want to check out the RedRange/Cooldowns stuff.`
`20:40.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`i take pride in having the highest grade in my precalc class while never doing any homework or projects =) and i was only a sophomore too`
`20:40.50`	`phyber`	`ahh.`
`20:40.59`	`phyber`	`guess I try it after this raid then ;)`
`20:40.59`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, I installed it on my mom's comp and transfered the files over.`
`20:41.02`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`20:41.03`	`kergoth`	`ahh nice`
`20:41.24`	`a-stray-cat`	`ckknight: you should be added`
`20:41.36`	`KarlThePagan`	`yay for FuBar3? ;)`
`20:41.37`	`ckknight`	`alright, I gotta go to class`
`20:41.46`	`ckknight`	`KarlThePagan, not gonna happen.`
`20:41.55`	`KarlThePagan`	`heh aw`
`20:42.01`	`ckknight`	`why would I?`
`20:42.04`	`ckknight`	`there's no point.`
`20:42.14`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna leave my computer here, to download stuff`
`20:42.17`	`ckknight`	`see you in an hour`
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`20:45.51`	`Amadeo`	`I get severe lag in a lot of Outland areas/instances`
`20:46.58`	`Amadeo`	`That Coilfang instance or something, I was getting about 5 fps`
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`20:47.59`	`Mikma`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/48694952.htm`
`20:48.52`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl * r17575 10Skinner/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: AuctionFilterPlus, sort buttons skinned and a couple of other Auction frame changes`
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`20:51.03`	`tigg`	`ckknight: is there a reason for about 50 times ["Entrace"] = true; in Cartographers InstanceNotes' localization part?`
`20:51.27`	`kergoth`	`hmm thats odd, mustve been a bug in my script that populated it`
`20:53.39`	`kergoth`	`:<,>!sort -u`
`20:53.45`	`kergoth`	`tigg, fixed`
`20:53.50`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17576 10Cartographer/Modules/InstanceNotes/enUS.lua: Cartographer: InstanceNotes module: kill the duplicates in the localization file, and sort them.`
`20:53.59`	`tigg`	`ok, then i will cut them from german localization`
`20:55.27`	`Mikma`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34204739&sid=1&pageNo=3 <- lol, go slouken, go cladhaire`
`20:55.35`	`nevcairiel`	`kergoth i bet you can lock threads on the forums?`
`20:55.53`	`kergoth`	`probably, though i rarely make use of the ability, i'm more of a mailing list than a forum guy`
`20:55.57`	`kergoth`	`what do ya need?`
`20:56.31`	`nevcairiel`	`i am creating a new BT3 thread and want the old locked`
`20:58.03`	`nevcairiel`	`anyway, need to write that new thread first`
`20:59.32`	`Kalamadi`	`Bleh. I wish I could test BT3, Nev, but the PTR keeps fucking up :/`
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`21:02.20`	`JoshBorke`	`hola!`
`21:03.59`	`cncfanatics`	`its beta maintenance day (ptr too)`
`21:04.19`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`21:04.47`	`Kalamadi`	`Oh.`
`21:04.50`	`Amadeo`	`Beta is up though`
`21:05.03`	`Kalamadi`	`Why does the login server still work on the PTR, though?`
`21:05.31`	`Antiarc`	`Any new patch today?`
`21:06.04`	`Amadeo`	`not for beta yet...it never went down`
`21:06.11`	`cncfanatics`	`it was down 10 mins ago`
`21:06.13`	`cncfanatics`	`cldnt log in`
`21:06.15`	`Amadeo`	`hm`
`21:06.18`	`Amadeo`	`I was in game though`
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`21:06.27`	`Amadeo`	`let me check, lol`
`21:07.04`	`nevcairiel`	`kergoth: can you lock this thread if you have the power? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3026.0`
`21:07.25`	`Amadeo`	`I'm stuck on authenticating now, so perhaps it's down or login has issues`
`21:08.05`	`Amadeo`	`I hope they patch! New stuff rocks!`
`21:08.14`	`yacoob`	`a tribe of wow developers`
`21:08.23`	`a-stray-cat`	`i hope they fix those little checkered boxes`
`21:08.26`	`yacoob`	`bowing to the login screen, awaiting ascension into Azeroth :)`
`21:08.28`	`a-stray-cat`	`those are way annoying`
`21:09.42`	`pastamancer`	`attack of the checkered boxes is pretty exciting`
`21:10.00`	`a-stray-cat`	`they could at least use bigger boxes, imo`
`21:11.07`	`kergoth`	`nevcairiel, okay, i think i just did`
`21:11.08`	`Azurewrath`	`i want the Fel Reaver Bears back. :p`
`21:11.32`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah you did`
`21:11.37`	`nevcairiel`	`thanks`
`21:11.39`	`kergoth`	`np`
`21:13.16`	`Mikma`	`"`
`21:13.17`	`Mikma`	`The UI is unlocked during reload until after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fired."`
`21:13.19`	`Mikma`	`meh`
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`21:13.25`	`nevcairiel`	`so?`
`21:13.58`	`Mikma`	`so there's some time to mess around before PEW PEW`
`21:14.18`	`pastamancer`	`as there should be`
`21:14.18`	`nevcairiel`	`setup your UI after reload`
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`21:14.39`	`nevcairiel`	`if it would be insta-locked it would be impossible to reloadui in combat`
`21:15.24`	`Mikma`	`well i always thought that it's instalock on reloadui if in combat`
`21:15.26`	`Mikma`	`but that's still good`
`21:18.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`bah... beta stuck at authenticating`
`21:19.11`	`kebinusan`	`Best TBC thread ever http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1256846&sid=1`
`21:19.27`	`nevcairiel`	`beta is down due to maintenance`
`21:20.16`	`KarlThePagan`	`pastamancer I might cut my teeth on an afk module first`
`21:20.53`	`pastamancer`	`that or a PvP flag module would be a good place to get your feet wet`
`21:21.03`	`KarlThePagan`	`yar`
`21:21.25`	`Mikma`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47299894&sid=1`
`21:21.29`	`Mikma`	`nice blue on this one`
`21:22.41`	`a-stray-cat`	`i think my school just cut off my internets`
`21:22.50`	`a-stray-cat`	`at least, the http portion`
`21:23.26`	`Antiarc`	`If you write an addon that requires reloading the UI to change its state, you probably have bigger problems than the problem that the addon tries to address.`
`21:24.15`	`Mikma`	`YAY <- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47014033&sid=1`
`21:24.20`	`Mikma`	`the stupid crash is fixed`
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`21:25.32`	ag`	`nevcairiel: new patch?`
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`21:32.56`	`kergoth`	`hmm, i should work on a new version of RealStats`
`21:33.10`	`Antiarc`	`Macro question re: the icon feedback, if anyone is familar with it`
`21:33.31`	`Antiarc`	`I set up a macro: /cast [equipped:Mace] Sinister Strike; Mutilate`
`21:33.45`	`Antiarc`	`This properly casts SS if I have a mace equipped, otherwise, casts mutilate`
`21:33.55`	`Antiarc`	`This lets me use one button for both depending on my weapons.`
`21:34.02`	`Antiarc`	`This is good, but the icon is always the SS icon, never Mutilate.`
`21:34.41`	`nymbia`	`do /cast [dummy] Mutilate; [equipped:Mace] Sinister Strike; Mutilate`
`21:35.26`	`Antiarc`	`I'll give that a shot - will that cause the icon to be SS if I have a mace equipped then?`
`21:35.44`	`Antiarc`	`It's not a huge deal, but the visual feedback would be nice.`
`21:35.46`	`nymbia`	`it'll make the icon always mutilate, i think =\`
`21:36.00`	`Antiarc`	`Hm. I was hoping it'd be set to the spell that would end up being cast.`
`21:36.08`	`Antiarc`	`I also noticed that the icon was always lit up even when I didn't have enough energy for the attack.`
`21:36.19`	`nymbia`	`hmm`
`21:36.28`	`Antiarc`	`Maybe I should post in the macro thread.`
`21:36.36`	`nevcairiel`	ag`: i dont know, but i think only weekly maintenance
`21:41.32`	`kergoth`	`something up with the login server on the beta? i was just in it fine, just cant get back in`
`21:41.46`	`kergoth`	`you'd think it wouldve gone down entirely if it was maintainance or something`
`21:41.58`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`21:41.58`	`ckknight`	`back`
`21:42.03`	`a-stray-cat`	`wb`
`21:42.10`	`kergoth`	`heyc k`
`21:42.12`	`nevcairiel`	`i think they disabled the login servers for maintenance`
`21:42.18`	`nevcairiel`	`dunno when they shut it down completly`
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`21:42.58`	`ckknight`	`back from class`
`21:43.32`	`nymbia`	`hey`
`21:43.39`	`ckknight`	`and I have about an hour till patches download...`
`21:43.55`	`nymbia`	`did your install finally work?`
`21:44.13`	`ckknight`	`I installed on my mom's comp and transfered files over`
`21:44.26`	`nymbia`	`nice.`
`21:44.37`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`21:51.34`	`CIA-17`	`03moonwolf * r17577 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua Mendeleev.toc): Mendeleev: Reverting changes made for tbc in favor of the tbc branch in the branches.`
`21:51.37`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17578 10/trunk/ (CTLoot/ CTLoot/ChangeLog CTLoot/core.lua MSBTLoot/): CTLoot: rename from MSBTLoot, as it now supports sct and fct.`
`21:51.51`	`MoonWolf`	`whats an fct ?`
`21:51.57`	`kergoth`	`the blizzard floating combat text`
`21:52.03`	`MoonWolf`	`ah`
`21:52.51`	ag`	`Ahhh damn servers, please beta I need to test`
`21:53.10`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17579 10CTLoot/ (CTLoot.toc MSBTLoot.toc): CTLoot: rename the .toc.`
`21:53.54`	`Xuerian`	`CTLoot isn't going to catch flak from cide? >.>`
`21:54.04`	`Xuerian`	`Or don't care? :p`
`21:54.36`	`MoonWolf`	`this is clearly combat text loot`
`21:54.41`	`MoonWolf`	`if he makes a fuss out of it`
`21:54.44`	`MoonWolf`	`he should piss off.`
`21:54.49`	`Xuerian`	`I thought "CT_Loot" to start with, but I don't give a shit. :p`
`21:54.53`	`Antiarc`	`If I see "CTLoot" I do think Cide :/`
`21:54.57`	`kergoth`	`well, if you've got a better name i'll rename it`
`21:54.59`	`kergoth`	`i suck at names`
`21:55.12`	`kergoth`	`i know.. LootCT!`
`21:55.15`	`kergoth`	`go me`
`21:55.16`	`Antiarc`	`What's the addon do?`
`21:55.17`	`Xuerian`	`That works better.`
`21:55.25`	`Antiarc`	`LootCT is better.`
`21:55.25`	`kergoth`	`it just shows what you've looted in scrolling combat text addons`
`21:55.26`	`Xuerian`	`Adds loot to combat text mods`
`21:55.32`	`kergoth`	`along with what the total # of that item is in your inventory`
`21:55.34`	`Antiarc`	`SCTLoot?`
`21:55.36`	`kergoth`	`useful when farming`
`21:55.38`	`kergoth`	`it isnt sct specific`
`21:55.40`	`kergoth`	`msbt, sct, fct`
`21:55.45`	`Antiarc`	`But I think "SCT" when I think combat text.`
`21:55.50`	`kergoth`	`i dont`
`21:55.50`	`Antiarc`	`I suspect most people do`
`21:55.51`	`kergoth`	`i like sct.`
`21:55.52`	`Xuerian`	`They're all scrolling combat mods, though :P`
`21:55.52`	`Antiarc`	`shrug`
`21:55.53`	`kergoth`	`er`
`21:55.54`	`kergoth`	`i think sct`
`21:55.58`	`Xuerian`	`scrolling combat text* mods.`
`21:56.10`	`kergoth`	`i dunno, i dont think of sct as geneeric, like scotch tape`
`21:56.14`	`kergoth`	`i still think of it as the addon, sct`
`21:56.48`	`snurre-`	`damnit, givf dexter s01e09 :(`
`21:56.53`	`Xuerian`	`Well.. LootCT works. Loot Combat Text. :3`
`21:57.05`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17580 10/trunk/ (CTLoot/ LootCT/): Rename CTLoot to LootCT to avoid confusion.`
`21:57.07`	`Antiarc`	`Scrolling Loot Log`
`21:57.10`	`kergoth`	`aye, i'm just sick of all my names being uncreative`
`21:57.12`	`ckknight`	`yea CTLoot makes me think of Cide`
`21:57.14`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`21:57.16`	`ckknight`	`LootCT seems fine.`
`21:57.29`	`ckknight`	`sorta...`
`21:57.35`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`21:57.54`	ag`	`what does CT stand for`
`21:58.10`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17581 10LootCT/ (CTLoot.toc LootCT.toc): LootCT: Rename the .toc, again`
`21:58.12`	`kergoth`	`combat text`
`21:58.28`	ag`	`I was thinking of Cide's CT`
`21:58.31`	`DrDre`	`Counter Terrorist!`
`21:58.34`	ag`	`what does that stand for?`
`21:58.35`	`kergoth`	`thats why its not ctloot anymore`
`21:58.37`	`snurre-`	`why not just LCT?`
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`21:59.11`	`kergoth`	`scrolling loot log makes me think of XLootMonitor`
`21:59.17`	`vhaarr`	`"LootText"?`
`21:59.35`	`vhaarr`	`LootAlert`
`21:59.41`	`pastamancer`	`oooh`
`21:59.45`	`pastamancer`	`I like LootAlert`
`21:59.48`	`snurre-`	`scrolling loot text`
`21:59.55`	`Xuerian`	`LootAlert sounds good too`
`21:59.57`	`ckknight`	`LootAlert sounds good.`
`22:00.11`	`Xuerian`	`Go for rename #3? :P`
`22:00.18`	`pastamancer`	`third time's the charm`
`22:00.19`	`nymbia`	`lol`
`22:00.26`	`kergoth`	`maybe XLootMonitor should just support showing how many of that item you already have, and then this addon wouldnt be necessary?`
`22:00.28`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`22:00.36`	`Xuerian`	`o.0;`
`22:00.57`	`kergoth`	`it is kinda nice having it in the combat text frame though, in your face, hard to miss it`
`22:00.57`	ag`	`can anyone say why the beta server is down?`
`22:01.03`	`JoshBorke`	`yes`
`22:01.08`	`JoshBorke`	`because blizzard decried it`
`22:01.12`	`kergoth`	`:(`
`22:01.25`	`Xuerian`	`[XLoot ]History is gona be split from monitor soon, since I'm going to make it into a multi-purpose loot/light raid\|group log addon. Eventually.`
`22:01.27`	ag`	`it sucks, I have to time fix stuff now`
`22:02.41`	`Xuerian`	`Bites, don't it?`
`22:02.45`	`kebinusan`	ag`: eu?
`22:03.01`	`kebinusan`	`Cause Im logged in on hellfire atm`
`22:03.15`	`kergoth`	`i was on hellfire just fine`
`22:03.17`	`kergoth`	`but cant get in now`
`22:03.21`	`kergoth`	`something with the login server`
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`22:05.47`	ag`	`kebinusan: yes, EU`
`22:06.07`	ag`	`stuck on auth`
`22:07.19`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17582 10/trunk/ (LootAlert/ LootCT/): LootAlert: renaming is fun for the whole family.`
`22:08.24`	`CIA-17`	`03kergoth * r17583 10/trunk/ (LootAlert/LootCT.toc LootAlert.toc): LootAlert: it really is.`
`22:16.29`	`kebinusan`	`:-(`
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`22:23.27`	`vhaarr`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5831-1-gnomehaterwhispercast.html o_O`
`22:23.54`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
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`22:25.17`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17584 10BigWigs/AQ40/Defenders.lua: BigWigs: AQ40/Defenders: Fix thunderclap syncing, sorry`
`22:25.48`	`ckknight`	`lol, vhaarr`
`22:25.52`	`ckknight`	`down with gnomes.`
`22:26.23`	`sbu`	`eh`
`22:26.30`	`sbu`	`posted this 7h ago :/`
`22:26.31`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`22:26.36`	`vhaarr`	`sbu: pwnd`
`22:27.20`	`vhaarr`	`Wonder if he was inspired by my cgHater option ^^`
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`22:28.10`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: Any idea why people would be complaining about "Tablet-2.0: You must set title within a registration", when I do call tablet:SetTitle? (The exact code is here: http://ace.pastey.net/2580 )`
`22:28.24`	`Kemayo`	`(I don't get this error myself, so I'm a bit confused.)`
`22:28.47`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: This code is in a FBP, right?`
`22:29.04`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: The problem is that FBP intercepts your external call to get a Tablet-2.0 instance, I think.`
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`22:30.00`	`vhaarr`	`^^`
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`22:31.18`	`Kemayo`	`I thought FBP only magically mangled the ones in OnTooltipUpdate...`
`22:31.22`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: So basically, your call \|tablet:SetTitle("")\| is called on the FBP's tablet, would be my guess.`
`22:31.35`	`vhaarr`	`Well, I don't really know, ask ckk now that he's back.`
`22:31.43`	`ckknight_`	`blah!`
`22:31.57`	`Kemayo`	`This doesn't necessarily explain why it works for me and I'm just getting a few people complaining about it from afar, though.`
`22:32.05`	`ckknight`	`what's going on?`
`22:32.11`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: Any idea why people would be complaining about "Tablet-2.0: You must set title within a registration", when I do call tablet:SetTitle? (The exact code is here: http://ace.pastey.net/2580 )`
`22:32.48`	`ckknight`	`um`
`22:32.49`	`ckknight`	`that's weird`
`22:32.51`	`ckknight`	`that should work.`
`22:33.02`	`CIA-17`	`03funkydude * r17585 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua: BigWigs: AQ40/Ouro: Fixed berserk trigger`
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`22:33.19`	`Kemayo`	`It works for me. I just have a bunch of complaints about that error on WoWI.`
`22:33.40`	`Nickenyfiken`	`what tool can i use to view mpq files?`
`22:33.54`	`Kemayo`	`I guess I'll go make some official-sounding request that they make sure they have the latest version of all the relevant addons.`
`22:34.05`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo, sounds good to me`
`22:35.45`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: Thanks for confirming that it's at least probably not me screwing up somehow. :)`
`22:35.52`	`ckknight`	`I blame the users.`
`22:35.54`	`ckknight`	`always.`
`22:35.59`	`ckknight`	`even when it's really my fault.`
`22:36.10`	`ckknight`	`makes things less stressful.`
`22:36.13`	`Xuerian`	`it's -always- the user's fault.`
`22:36.26`	`ckknight`	`Xuerian's got it down.`
`22:37.09`	`Cartass`	`lol, CKKnight.`
`22:38.08`	`KarlThePagan`	`ID10T error`
`22:39.01`	`ckknight`	`PEBKAC error.`
`22:39.09`	`ckknight`	`specifically.`
`22:39.36`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna go eat lunch`
`22:39.46`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r17586 10T_Tracking/Localization.lua:`
`22:39.46`	`CIA-17`	`T_Tracking:`
`22:39.46`	`CIA-17`	`- update koKR`
`22:40.29`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r17587 10T_TrackingFu/T_TrackingFu.toc:`
`22:40.29`	`CIA-17`	`T_TrackingFu:`
`22:40.29`	`CIA-17`	`- add notes-koKR`
`22:40.35`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r17588 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames - update koKR`
`22:40.50`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r17589 10Manufac/Manufac-koKR.lua:`
`22:40.50`	`CIA-17`	`Manufac:`
`22:40.50`	`CIA-17`	`- update koKR`
`22:40.57`	ag`	`so logins won't work until tomorrow? :(`
`22:41.02`	ag`	`BC EU still broken`
`22:41.03`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r17590 10OneBag/localizations/koKR.lua: OneBag - update koKR`
`22:41.04`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`22:41.14`	`nevcairiel`	`its not broken, its down on purpose`
`22:41.18`	`nevcairiel`	`dont you read forums ? :D`
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`22:43.43`	`DrDre`	`so.`
`22:44.01`	`DrDre`	`do you think bliz would release the patch on Background DLer 1 week before?`
`22:44.17`	`DrDre`	`my friends gonna miss GM by 4% :/`
`22:45.50`	`JoshBorke`	`DrDre: yes`
`22:47.32`	`Neronix`	`Know what I hate about megaman games?`
`22:47.33`	`Neronix`	`Spikes`
`22:47.47`	`Neronix`	`"Oh shit, I clipped my foot on some spikes while jumping! :O"`
`22:47.51`	`Neronix`	`BOOM`
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`22:48.09`	`Neronix`	`and the same thing happens another 50 times while you lose hair in the process`
`22:49.55`	`Elkano`	`great, I just died in deeprun tram due to lag and my corpse is now outside of the world :/`
`22:50.23`	`DrDre`	`cant extract torrent from background downloader?`
`22:50.34`	`haste`	`http://hastey.pastey.net/2584-1cnw << fun with patterns`
`22:50.55`	ag`	`nevcairiel: no`
`22:50.58`	ag`	`:Å`
`22:51.01`	`a-stray-cat`	`hey haste, in oCD is there a way to make it so i don't get all the trap timers to show?`
`22:51.03`	ag`	`where should I read?`
`22:51.06`	`Tain`	`"Should array indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration. "`
`22:51.06`	`a-stray-cat`	`when i drop a trap?`
`22:51.09`	`haste`	`a-stray-cat: soon`
`22:51.13`	`kergoth`	`Tain, hahah`
`22:51.18`	`Neronix`	`lol`
`22:51.29`	`a-stray-cat`	`haste: cool.`
`22:51.43`	`a-stray-cat`	`just don't make it as crappy a system as i did with cooldown timer bars, k? ;p`
`22:51.43`	`haste`	`a-stray-cat: I've had a couple of things to do lately, still have tho'`
`22:52.03`	`Tain`	`There's some awesome coding quotes here. http://sysprog.net/quotlang.html`
`22:52.06`	`haste`	`and that little pastey there is the first lines of what I've written in Lua the last days`
`22:52.11`	`Neronix`	`haste: that looks cool`
`22:52.13`	`haste`	`a-stray-cat: How was that system?`
`22:52.24`	`a-stray-cat`	`well, it worked great actually`
`22:52.27`	`a-stray-cat`	`its just was ugly`
`22:52.28`	`haste`	`Neronix: http://hastey.pastey.net/2584-1cnw << spits out that`
`22:52.39`	`a-stray-cat`	`wow, english i good.`
`22:52.51`	`haste`	`a-stray-cat: well, what was the basic thought behind it?`
`22:53.25`	`a-stray-cat`	`it had a table like groups = {["skillname"] = ["groupname"] }`
`22:53.31`	ag`	`nevcairiel: where's the beta EU forum`
`22:53.32`	`a-stray-cat`	`but if you wanted to display a group`
`22:53.38`	ag`	`or is the status the same for EU and US beta`
`22:53.41`	`a-stray-cat`	`id have to create a new table and reverse it`
`22:54.06`	`a-stray-cat`	`where you had a table of groups = { group = { "skill", "skill", }`
`22:54.20`	`a-stray-cat`	`er, display groups for editing`
`22:54.54`	`a-stray-cat`	`the continued cooldown timer bars looks a hell of a lot like oCD though`
`22:55.04`	`haste`	`they both use CandyBars`
`22:55.10`	Funkeh`	`pastamancer: you here?`
`22:55.12`	`a-stray-cat`	`;)`
`22:55.40`	`haste`	`btw, that system is the on I was leaning towards`
`22:55.55`	`haste`	`it's really the only option you can do, when you don't want to iterate on EVERY skill used`
`22:55.56`	`a-stray-cat`	`i also had an omnigroup function, where if you made a group with the name %name, it'd just automatically throw everything containing that word into a group`
`22:56.08`	`a-stray-cat`	`make it prettier, imo`
`22:56.22`	`a-stray-cat`	`at least, the adding skills portion`
`22:56.26`	`a-stray-cat`	`i had some terrible gui setup`
`22:56.54`	`haste`	`I was thining of a drop-down, with every skill, and just let the user select group on the skill there`
`22:57.22`	`a-stray-cat`	`and what of items, etc?`
`22:57.27`	`haste`	`I have finished such a system, but I'm holding it back 'cause I don't like it`
`22:57.35`	`haste`	`oCD doesn't take items, yet at least`
`22:57.35`	`a-stray-cat`	`or does yours track items?`
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`23:01.08`	`haste`	`but I'm goint to go to bed now, and enjoy my five hours of sleep :)`
`23:01.14`	`a-stray-cat`	`g'nite`
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`23:04.35`	`DrDre`	`seeing 129 lines from us on their screen has to be fun`
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`23:07.41`	`[Liquidor]`	`This can't be :S This channel has never been this quiet before :O`
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`23:08.05`	`[Liquidor]`	`Uhm I forgot, you got maintaince at Tuesdays`
`23:08.58`	`[Liquidor]`	`I don't know what the action 'cuddle' means exactly :)`
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`23:27.01`	`Tekkub`	`someone give this guy a piece of my mind`
`23:27.02`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=752.msg60717;topicseen#msg60717`
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`23:27.10`	`Tekkub`	`I don't even want to reply`
`23:27.47`	`usz`	`haha Tek`
`23:28.07`	`usz`	`I know the guy from the times i used to work on d2botnet code for diablo2 lod`
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`23:29.21`	Funkeh`	`reply wiht line -5`
`23:29.44`	Funkeh`	`if he says i cant find it you can lock the thread there and sticky it`
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`23:29.58`	`Tekkub`	`I'm just ignoring him from here out`
`23:29.59`	`Amadeo`	`Blizzard sure takes the beta down at a weird time`
`23:30.13`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, wait, what's the problem?`
`23:30.18`	`Tekkub`	`blizzard doesn't want ya mounting on the boat, I'm not making a special case for a fucking bug`
`23:30.25`	`Tekkub`	`this guy is stupid`
`23:30.40`	`ckknight`	`his name seems offensive.`
`23:30.40`	`Tekkub`	`he wants to fuck with the code but can't figure it out for himself`
`23:30.48`	`Tekkub`	`his brain seems offensive`
`23:30.57`	`Tain`	`Well, at least he's asking politely.`
`23:31.08`	`ckknight`	`yea, he is asking politely`
`23:31.16`	`ckknight`	`I don't see an issue with what he's saying, honestly.`
`23:31.26`	`vhaarr`	`It's probably taken from Lovecraft's Shub-Niggurath.`
`23:31.39`	`Tekkub`	`the issue is you can't mount on boats except in one buggy spot`
`23:31.49`	`Tekkub`	`he wants MountMe to know you're on a boat`
`23:31.53`	`usz`	`3 in fact ^^`
`23:31.59`	`Tekkub`	`it can't, and it shouldn't need to`
`23:32.21`	`Tekkub`	`and it'll work fine if th eboat isn't moving :)`
`23:32.52`	`Tain`	`Can you make MountMe move you to the bugged spot on the boat first and then mount? That would be nice.`
`23:33.06`	`Tekkub`	`I dunno, I guess I'm being a dick cause I told him what he needs to do. If he can't glance over the code and see if .... or moving ...`
`23:33.06`	Funkeh`	`err?`
`23:33.10`	`Tekkub`	`then I ain't helpin :P`
`23:33.17`	`Amadeo`	`usz: There's nearly unlimited spots where you can mount, you just have to walk to the edge of a texture :P`
`23:35.32`	`Amadeo`	`I don't care for mounting on boats though`
`23:35.42`	`Amadeo`	`I can spare the second it takes to walk onto the dock`
`23:36.37`	`Tain`	`Mounting on the boat makes your epeen larger.`
`23:36.46`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`23:37.01`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`23:37.15`	`kergoth`	`http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/8bad/`
`23:37.19`	`ckknight`	`mine's ginormous`
`23:37.28`	`kebinusan`	`is that what was doing it? damn glad I know I was getting a bit tired of taping it`
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`23:38.33`	`Neronix`	`You know what also makes no sense about megaman spikes?`
`23:38.57`	`Neronix`	`They also kill your other character at the same time, quite mysteriously`
`23:39.16`	`Neronix`	`Are they made of friggin' antimatter or something? -_-`
`23:39.48`	Funkeh`	`weeee`
`23:39.52`	Funkeh`	`background downloader is up`
`23:40.06`	Funkeh`	`WoW-1.12.x-to-2.0.1-enGB-patch`
`23:40.21`	`Amadeo`	`is that for Tuesday?`
`23:40.25`	Funkeh`	`maybe`
`23:40.31`	`Amadeo`	`wow, that would rock`
`23:40.38`	Funkeh`	`its 35mb`
`23:40.42`	Funkeh`	`so aybe not :P`
`23:40.45`	Funkeh`	`maybe*`
`23:41.16`	Funkeh`	`wow-partial-1.MPQ`
`23:41.42`	Funkeh`	`forgot this thing stays at 0% for 30min then starts. damn torrent system and routers`
`23:42.01`	`ckknight`	`they're probably leaking it out a bit at a time`
`23:42.02`	`kebinusan`	`bleh`
`23:42.08`	`Amadeo`	`I turned my backround downloader off`
`23:42.12`	`kebinusan`	`us login server`
`23:42.14`	Funkeh`	`aye ck, they did that with 1.10 i think`
`23:42.16`	`kebinusan`	`no worky`
`23:42.23`	`Amadeo`	`Since I can't play during patch day anyway, I don't see a point`
`23:42.40`	Funkeh`	`Amadeo: les to download on patch day`
`23:42.56`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, but I don't use Blizzard's crappy client anyway!`
`23:42.59`	`kebinusan`	`less stres on bliz networks on login day`
`23:43.02`	Funkeh`	`when its busy as hell and the blizz torrent system dies`
`23:43.16`	`Amadeo`	`kebinusan: Right, I can see how it's helpful for them`
`23:48.28`	`phyber`	`any of you guys ModChip your PSP if you have one? My GF just bricked mine, and I see that you can use those things to fix Sony's abortion of an upgrade process.`
`23:48.54`	`phyber`	`Lumines II screwed up the upgrade 1% into the process, gg.`
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`23:54.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`"hey man" "wanna come wipe on huhuran?" rofl`
`23:54.52`	`Xuerian`	`haha.`
`23:56.37`	`kergoth`	`anyone here use a nostromo n52? i found mine collecting dust in the other room, and was wondering if it was even worth plugging in`
`23:56.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`was in their raid lastnight for their last two attempts of the night, but still great way to get an invite`
`23:56.56`	`Amadeo`	`kergoth: I hear some people love theirs, and some people hate them`
`23:57.06`	`Amadeo`	`I think it's just a learning curve, either way`
`23:57.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`i use an n52, love it for fps's but starting to hate it for wow not enough buttons`
`23:57.33`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`23:57.38`	`kergoth`	`what bugged me was the stroke of the kyes`
`23:57.39`	`kergoth`	`keys`
`23:57.41`	`kergoth`	`have to push down far`
`23:57.47`	`kergoth`	`course i'm a picky bastard when it comes to keyboards`
`23:57.53`	`Amadeo`	`Me too`
`23:58.02`	`Amadeo`	`All new keyboards suck`
`23:58.19`	`Arrowmaster`	`been thinking about getting an ideazon fang for wow, would still use my n52 for FPSs`
`23:58.20`	`kergoth`	`depends`
`23:58.27`	`kergoth`	`some people love the old ibm keyboards`
`23:58.31`	`kergoth`	`and i cant blame them, the feel is nice`
`23:58.41`	`kergoth`	`but the stroke is too long, especially if you're used to laptop keyboards`
`23:58.58`	`kergoth`	`logitech has a great slimline laptop like keyboard that i use, good feel too`
`23:59.03`	`kergoth`	`oems sell em in 5 pakcs`
`23:59.08`	`Amadeo`	`how much?`
`23:59.22`	`Amadeo`	`Arrowmaster: There's also some Wolf-something pad like that now`
`23:59.30`	`kergoth`	`its like $100 for 5, so not much more than the crap ones at the store`
`23:59.47`	`kergoth`	`shuttle ships that keyboard with some of their xpcs, oddly enough`
`23:59.49`	`Amadeo`	`Is it that Ultra-X or something?`
`23:59.55`	`kergoth`	`yup`

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