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00:00.04JJSheetslol
00:00.12pastamancerbah, my characters aren't copied over to beta yet :(
00:00.19vhaarrJJSheets: rather move the feature where it belongs and add a confirmation dialog when setting it
00:01.02JJSheetsvhaarr: it wouldn't disable the feature, just the button to set it.  it would still use the default text last set.  but I'll put it in the options line for now  :)
00:01.11vhaarrI don't see the point.
00:02.02JJSheetsvhaarr:  I'm also thinking the icons need could be a little bit bigger...
00:02.10vhaarrJJSheets: nah
00:02.14vhaarrJJSheets: why?
00:02.22JJSheetss/icons need could/icons could/
00:02.26vhaarrJJSheets: the only thing you click regularly is run page, which you have a keybinding for anyway
00:02.40JJSheetsvhaarr: cause the bastards are frickin tiny on my lcd panel :p
00:02.55vhaarrJJSheets: add a scale slider for it to the options then
00:03.00JJSheetslol
00:03.11vhaarrJJSheets: iconSize = { type = "range", ... }
00:03.24vhaarrto the AceOptions table
00:03.35vhaarriconScale, rather
00:03.46JJSheetsyup.... I'll mess with that later, if at all.  we'll see.
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00:03.59vhaarrof course, it would scale the entire header
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00:04.03ckknighthey all
00:04.04vhaarrso headerScale
00:04.07ckknightback in the library
00:04.07vhaarrwb ckk :P
00:04.18vhaarrah
00:04.23vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/16292
00:04.47ckknightwhat's headerScale do?
00:04.55vhaarrckknight: that's about omnibus
00:04.59vhaarrnothing to do with tablet
00:05.11JJSheetsdifferent conversation :)
00:05.14ckknightk
00:05.21ckknightJJSheets, fix Omnibus' channel
00:05.31ckknightjust set it to Omnibus instead of OmnibusCommChannel
00:05.38vhaarrckknight: I was saying JJSheets should add an AceOption to scale the header of the omnibus window, like headerScale = { type = "range", ... }, since some people think it's too small.
00:05.39ckknightcause it turns into AceCommOmnibusCommChannel
00:05.47JJSheetsah.  will do.
00:06.21JJSheetssome people meaning pretty much me so far.  :)
00:06.22ckknightJJSheets, I also fixed the bug that makes AceCommOmnibusCommChannel show up before general.
00:06.43JJSheetsckknight, didn't know there was such a bug...  but thanks!  :)
00:06.53ckknight;-)
00:06.59ckknightit was an AceComm bug
00:07.30JJSheetswell, I just deleted the CommChannel suffix, so next commit will just use AceCommOmnibus.
00:07.42vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2952.0;topicseen
00:08.18vhaarrthat puzzled me as well some time ago, but since I had no use for the talents I didn't care
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00:09.31ckknightvhaarr, replied
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00:09.45vhaarraha
00:11.16vhaarrckknight: anyway the only relevant change is |data.fontSizePercent = percent|
00:11.27vhaarrckknight: the others were just spring cleaning
00:11.31ckknightokay
00:11.33ckknightsounds good
00:11.42ckknightvhaarr, as long as nothing breaks, I'm typically happy with patches.
00:11.51ckknightalso, don't bloat it to such a point where it gets slow
00:11.54ckknightthat's really about it
00:12.01vhaarr:P
00:12.18vhaarrckknight: I'm really asking because I didn't understand the original purpose of the code
00:12.33vhaarrckknight: to me it looked like you just didn't want to save it to save the SV size
00:12.46vhaarrs/save the/cut down on the/
00:13.03ckknightsound sgood.
00:13.17vhaarralright
00:14.15vhaarrckknight: do you have FuBar_QuestsFu at the library? I think Tourist needs aliases for zones and instances.
00:14.26ckknightaliases?
00:14.38vhaarrBlizzard shows instances as something else in the LFG tool than on the map/GetZoneName APIs etc.
00:14.45ckknightugh.
00:14.51ckknightsrsly?
00:14.54vhaarryes
00:15.05vhaarrand I just did http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/16294
00:15.32vhaarrproblem is, it doesn't catch most of the instances, since their names are different
00:15.39vhaarrit works fine for quests and normal zones though
00:15.40ckknightdon't set lua51 at OnEnable
00:15.44vhaarroh
00:15.45ckknightjust do it at the base
00:15.50vhaarrhow so?
00:16.08ckknightlocal lua51 = loadstring("return function(...) return ... end") and true or false end
00:16.15ckknightat the base of the code
00:16.23vhaarryes not "how" like that, I mean why?
00:16.39ckknightcleaner
00:16.41ckknightimho
00:16.44ckknightbut that's just me.
00:16.47kebinusananyone know some good easy software for windows to rip dvds? free doesnt really matter but Im kinda clueless and a friend is asking
00:16.48vhaarrah
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00:17.07vhaarrand here I thought there was a practical reason
00:17.09vhaarr:P
00:17.51ckknighthey Kaelten
00:18.28vhaarrckknight: anyway, think about my excellent AceAddon/AceComm party addon query thing while I sleep and stuff ^^
00:18.34nevcairielwhy is a fel reaver a big bear? wtf?
00:18.42vhaarr:D
00:18.44vhaarrfel beaver
00:18.45pastamancerckknight: that's an interesting way to check for lua 5.1.  I've been using: Grid.isTBC = string.find(GetBuildInfo(), "^2%.")
00:18.50JJSheetslol
00:18.55ckknightpastamancer, I like my way :-P
00:18.55nevcairieland it just killed me
00:19.23vhaarrpastamancer: I do it like that because it checks for lua 5.1, but your check is actually more accurate in this case
00:19.33JJSheetsI take it loadstring works in 1.12?
00:19.45vhaarrpastamancer: since I'm dealing with a WoW API change, and not a lua5.1 change.
00:20.00vhaarrpastamancer: but who knows, maybe the LFG system will be implemented in 1.13 or whatever.
00:20.06vhaarr"2.0"
00:21.23ckknightJJSheets, loadstring("return function(...) return ... end") will return nil for lua50
00:21.31ckknightbut it'll return the proper function with lua51
00:22.27JJSheetsty
00:23.37ckknightthere won't be 1.13!
00:23.38ckknightgah
00:24.09ckknightand the UI between 2.0 WoW and 2.0 TBC is the same, you just don't have BEs, draenei, or the new lands
00:24.29ckknightso your isTBC check is wrong
00:24.32ckknighthere's the right one:
00:25.17ckknightlocal expansion = (MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL == 70)
00:25.17JJSheetsbut you can at least see the BE's and the Draenei when they're on Axeroth right?  not that I care since I'm planning on getting TBC on release...
00:25.17ckknightyou'll see em, JJSheets, just can't play em
00:25.29JJSheetsthought so... :)
00:25.35ckknightso UnitRace("target") will return "BloodElf" if you see a BE
00:25.48JJSheetsnon TBCers won't get levels 61 to 70 then too...
00:26.06ckknightlocal expansion = (MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL == 70) -- this is really the best way to actually check if you have the expansion
00:26.30pastamancerwell, the Grid.isTBC check is to decide if the SecureFrameTemplates should be used
00:26.31ckknightlocal lua51 = loadstring("return function(...) return ... end") and true or false -- this checks for lua51/WoW 2.0. it does not check for expansion.
00:26.45pastamancerso I suppose it's just named misleadingly
00:26.51ckknightyes.
00:27.17JJSheetsckknight, after the release of TBC, and upgrade of even non TBC clients to lua51, that check won't be needed anymore I'd think...
00:27.27JJSheetsright?
00:27.31ckknightJJSheets, right
00:27.40ckknightand Ace2's TBC branch will become the trunk.
00:27.50ckknightand all the libs that do the check will be upgraded
00:28.44JJSheetsHow bout a simple AceAddon method for checking for the expansion so nobody has to come up with nifty tricks except you?  :p
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00:29.07ckknightJJSheets, just use my nifty tricks.
00:29.18JJSheetslol plannin on it.  :)
00:29.31JJSheetsnot that any of my mods currently need to check for that.
00:29.32eternally777Hmm
00:29.37ckknighthrm?
00:29.43eternally777I'm thinking about turning off PRaid since I have Grid.
00:29.49nevcairielhrm
00:29.51eternally777But I can't see who has fort with grid..
00:30.08nevcairielFuBarPlugin-2.0 errors on load in tbc :(
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00:30.46Miles|zzzwrite a status module for fort
00:30.52JJSheetslol
00:32.21malretheternally777: you should be able to see who has fort
00:32.33malrethdid you add it as an aura in the status options?
00:33.32ckknightnevcairiel, hrm?
00:33.35ckknightit shouldn't
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00:40.11pastamancereternally777: try out the GridStatusMissingBuffs module
00:40.28pastamancerhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid/Other_Modules#GridStatusMissingBuffs
00:40.43ckknighthttp://thefunny.org/easter.php <-- hehe
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00:43.30TekkubMissing buffs, yummy
00:43.58Tekkubthat got an option to show the buffs only OOC? :)
00:44.02eternally777pastamancer: will do
00:44.38Tekkubyou know, tacos made with ground turkey are damn good
00:44.47JJSheetslol
00:44.47AmadeoI like it better than beef
00:44.58Tekkubdon't have that nasty spicy aftertaste that persists for hours
00:45.00Amadeoyep
00:46.53ckknightfeels like lunchtime.
00:47.11AmadeoYou missed lunch by a bunch of hours
00:50.04nevcairielits nearly 2am here, perfect time for eating, but not lunch
00:50.31JJSheets6:50pm here... dinner time for me...
00:50.54Amadeoit's 7:50 here...time for Blizzard to send me a TBC key
00:51.05JJSheetslmao me too
00:51.08pastamancerTekkub: no option, always OOC
00:51.16Tekkubgood :)
00:51.33AmadeoFlavor Flave told me I know what time it is
00:51.42pastamancerit still needs cleaning and optimizaiton before I add it to Grid officially
00:52.00JJSheets>.<
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00:52.09nevcairielI need a Inn in Shattrah city but cant find it, bah :D
00:52.13pastamancerbut Sorata did a decent job
00:52.55pastamancerI am outta here.  It is time to get properly drunk before House comes on.
00:53.02JJSheetslol
00:53.11Neronixlol
00:53.11XuerianHave fun, pasta :P
00:53.16nevcairiellol, lvl 65 watter which restores 7200 mana .. yay:D
00:53.23MentalPowernevcairiel: go up the blue tier
00:53.24AmadeoI don't think I could get drunk off starchy pasta water
00:53.52MentalPowerits to the right once you go up the elevator
00:53.59MentalPowerit has a mailbox outside of it
00:54.16MentalPowerit looks quite un-innLike
00:54.26kebinusanWould establish a "voter reward" random drawing every two years with a first prize of $1 million or more in an effort to increase voter participation. Voters who cast ballots in primary or general elections would be eligible to win.
00:54.28nevcairielthose mailboxes in shattrah look fun
00:54.34kebinusanthats an interesting proposal
00:55.17weabi'd rather people didnt vote, than to make uninformed votes
00:55.18JJSheetsI got an idea for better voter participation.  Kill the losing politician!  :)
00:55.45weaban uninformed vote is a wasted vote. you need to at least understand what you're voting for.
00:55.47JJSheetsThen televise the execution!
00:55.59JJSheetsWho's with me?
00:56.58JJSheetsdamn....
00:57.03NeronixGah, I think my 4G ipod's dead
00:57.12kebinusanhow about we just take private funding out of our election system completely and make broadcasters give candidates air time during election seasons and ban all other political advertisements
00:57.23Neronixwon't boot, HD keeps trying to spin but cuts out all the time
00:58.00NeronixOh, I whack it twice and it works again
00:58.05JJSheetsOl sparky... come on... with ol sparky for the losers we'd start culling the crowd of politicians down to the ones that truly make the people happy.
00:58.11MentalPower~mourn Neronix's 4G Ipod
00:58.13purlACTION lights some candles for Neronix's 4G Ipod
00:58.25NeronixAs a side note, iPods suck
00:58.30JJSheetslol
00:58.31TainLies.
00:58.38JJSheets~tryme
00:58.40purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at jjsheets and fires. Click.
00:59.03NeronixI need something that's actually decent, not DRM-crippled, and ideally runs Rockbox well
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01:01.50ckknightback
01:03.09TainiPods still have the best interface, aren't DRM-crippled, and I don't know what Rockbox is.
01:03.17CIA-1703jjsheets * r16295 10Omnibus/ (Omnibus.lua Omnibus.xml): Omnibus - Fixed chat channel usage. Also moved around some of the buttons.
01:03.40NeronixMost quick to pick up interface, definitely
01:04.03Neronixsecondly, you're encouraged to get drm'd crap from itms, and it supports it in the first place
01:04.22Neronixthirdly, rockbox is made of legend
01:04.42NeronixI would've ditched my ipod months ago if I hadn't found it
01:05.15TainThat's silly.  I've never bought anything from the iTunes music store.
01:06.20JJSheetsckknight: you busy?
01:07.10ckknightnot really.
01:07.19ckknightI'm free for two hours
01:07.27ckknightwas planning on researching into instance maps for Cartographer
01:07.32ckknightand such
01:08.13JJSheetsckknight: quick question then.  How possible/feasible would it be to update AceComm to join and leave addon chat channels on demand based on the communication needs of addons?
01:08.31ckknightI don't think it's a good idea
01:08.39JJSheetsany particular reason?
01:08.41uszits kind of in there anyway
01:08.47ckknighttoo complex and unwieldy
01:08.52CIA-1703usz * r16296 10TooltipExchange/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
01:08.52CIA-17TooltipExchange
01:08.52CIA-17- Remote Memo lists
01:08.52CIA-17- Clear button now actually clears search results
01:08.55ckknightand channels shouldn't really change mid-game
01:09.01uszif addon needs to communicate, you Register comm, if it doesnt, you unregister it
01:09.14ckknightyea, that'll work, actually.
01:09.34JJSheetsah... cool, I'll look into that then...
01:09.40JJSheetsthanks both of ya...
01:09.44uszstill its not so good idea ^^
01:09.50JJSheetslol
01:10.22JJSheetsI wouldn't be doing this often... mostly I'm trying to reduce the cost of having an extra chat channel slot used just so a person can send Omnibus pages.
01:10.42JJSheetsbut now that I think of it...
01:11.00JJSheetsit wouldn't actually work even if it were a good idea.  fiddlesticks.
01:11.15uszto whom the person would sent it as others wouldnt be listening in order to save chat channel slots? ^^
01:11.28JJSheetsprecisely.
01:11.34JJSheetsso nevermind.  :)
01:14.12Neronixhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adKD8pCxUng&NR
01:15.22ckknightI still think whispering would be a better idea, JJSheets
01:15.38uszthere are some issues with addon whispers...
01:15.51uszas addons which log chat can log addon transfer
01:16.02JJSheetsckknight I do too except for the fact that non omnibus users would see gunk, and be rightfully pissed if they weren't expecting it.
01:16.11uszalso that stupid logitech keybord shows that whispers came
01:16.17ckknightwell, they should use Ace2.
01:16.23ckknightalso, who are you sending it to?
01:16.26JJSheetswasn't Blizzard going to be adding an Addon channel?
01:16.26ckknightdon't you specify?
01:16.35ckknightJJSheets, they did, just not for whispers.
01:16.37JJSheetsckknight yes you do.  but people make mistakes.
01:16.52ckknightI don't see an issue then.
01:16.54ckknightuse Whispers.
01:17.09JJSheetslol.  Is the addon channel a big global channel?
01:17.19uszno
01:17.23ckknightoh, there is no standard global channel
01:17.30ckknightif they get junk, they'll whisper back and why are you sending it to someone without it anyway?
01:17.31uszits either GUILD, PARTY, RAID, BATTLEGROUND
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01:19.14JJSheetsI wish Blizzard would make an AddonWhisper command... or something.  would make this so much easier...
01:19.32usztbh i would like it too
01:19.42uszcan we ask for it in UI forums? ^^
01:19.44MentalPowerit was suggested, but the response is that the designers don't want addons sending whispers
01:19.49ckknightthey said they wouldn't, usz
01:19.58JJSheetsso instead addons are still sending whispers...
01:20.00ckknightright, MentalPower
01:20.04ckknightexactly, JJSheets
01:20.07uszthats just sad
01:20.10KyahxCan't AceComm handle whispers?
01:20.14ckknightyes, it does, Kyahx
01:20.15uszit handles them ofc
01:20.19ckknightbut JJSheets won't use it for some reason.
01:20.29JJSheetsif the other end doesn't have acecomm the other end sees crud.
01:20.37ckknightand I _could_ put the whisper hiding code into something like AceAddon or AceEvent, but that seems unclean.
01:20.38uszbet JJ is affraid!
01:21.04JJSheetsroflmao... I mostly just don't want users bitching to be honest.  :)
01:21.13KyahxWhat does you mod dop?
01:21.14Kyahxdo*
01:21.17Kyahxthat needs whisper comm?
01:21.23TainYou won't last very long if you worry about what users say.
01:21.30CIA-1703neriak * r16297 10AHFavorites/AHFavorites.lua:
01:21.30CIA-17AHFavorites:
01:21.30CIA-17- commented out annoying initialize message
01:21.43JJSheetsOmnibus = tinypad replacement, you can send pages to other omnibus users among many other features.
01:22.06uszdo it like i did, i put in noted about my addon info that its heavy memory requiring ^^
01:22.41JJSheetsAh... I got a solution!
01:23.00KyahxSo use the channels blizz gives you to see if the recipient has AceComm, and if not give the user a pop-up box saying "If the person you are sending a note to does not have 'mod', they will recieve giberish.  Send anyway?"
01:23.01JJSheetsWarn the damn user that if the send it to someone without Acecomm they'll see crud.
01:23.01uszJJSheets, set it like i set TE, I got 2 *transport* options, either data is exchanged via guild addon channel (default) or via customizable private chat channel
01:23.31KyahxSend a message over guild/party/raid etc..., check for a response from the recipient to make sure things are clean, and warn the user if not
01:23.55uszwould do it like Kyahx suggested
01:23.56Kyahx:P
01:24.00CIA-1703neriak * r16298 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.lua:
01:24.00CIA-17AH_Wipe:
01:24.00CIA-17- minor code changes,
01:24.01CIA-17- changed version to 2 now
01:24.17JJSheetsnah... I'll just warn the user.  then they'll be forewarned and I can point the finger at blizzard for not allowing hidden addon whispers in wow api.
01:24.24JJSheetsless coding for me.
01:24.26JJSheets:p
01:24.26uszand implementing that is pretty simple using acecomm
01:24.36uszwell, doing that check is like 50 lines
01:24.45KyahxYour worried about user bitching but your taking the easy way out?  :P
01:24.51JJSheetsrofl
01:25.05JJSheetswhat?  You Godda Problem wit dat?
01:25.31usz~whaleslap JJSheets
01:25.32purlACTION beats JJSheets upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
01:25.33KyahxThe problem seems negated if your only worried about the easiest way to do it. :)  The easiest way is to let the user bitch
01:25.42Kyahxhaha
01:25.48JJSheetskyahx hahahahha
01:25.55uszwell do it right way or dont do at all :)
01:25.56JJSheetsHugh????
01:26.06JJSheetsI wanted Ricardo damnit!
01:26.16usz~whalecrit JJSheets
01:26.17purlACTION crits JJSheets with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. JJSheets dies
01:26.26uszanyway goodnight guys
01:26.29JJSheetsadios
01:27.16Kyahxckknight: that seems like a nice thing that could be added to AceComm.  A function to check for a clean whisper connection.
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01:28.01Kyahxthen people like JJSheets could do | if CleanWhisper(recipient) then --code
01:28.05ckknightKyahx, how do I check?
01:28.15Kyahxsend a message over the real channels, and get a response
01:28.27ckknightI don't want to take up a whole channel needlessly
01:28.53Kyahxit shouldnt take a channel to send over raid/guild/etc...
01:29.06uszmake every AceComm client join global channel and check if they are in it - only clean solution for it, but very heavy
01:29.08usznn again
01:29.11Kyahxnah
01:29.36JJSheetsckknight, just do a plain text whisper.  if AceComm sees the plaintext whisper it hides it and responds appropriately.
01:29.59Kyahxthe fucntion would just send over the blizz channels something like "Kyahx Commcheck" -- and if my client sees that, I respond, and the function returns true
01:30.07ckknightbut the other person will see it if they don't have it.
01:30.13ckknightso we don't gain anything from doing that.
01:30.19Kyahxwhich is why you send over the raid/party/guild/etc...
01:31.23JJSheetsheck just do the Equivalent of:  /w target Checking to see if you have AceComm Active, ignore this if you see it.
01:31.29Kyahxno
01:31.32Kyahxno whispers, whispers are bad
01:31.36Kyahx:P
01:31.47JJSheetsbleh.
01:32.06KyahxSend a message over the hidden channels, just to check if they have AceComm, and Im not going to annoy them by trying to whisper
01:32.17Kyahxgranted...if I can reach them via guild...there is no reason to whisper
01:32.19Kyahxlol
01:32.24ckknightthat's the issue
01:32.31ckknightwhispers are needed for unconnected people
01:32.46ckknightI could make them join a hidden channel and check the userlist from that
01:32.50ckknightbut that's a very heavy hack
01:33.15JJSheetsckknight... doesn't AceComm already add people to a global AceComm channel?
01:33.22JJSheetsby default?
01:33.36Kyahxnot unless I mod uses the global channel I believe
01:34.27XuerianPerhaps we should post a request on the blizz forums for 2.0 to have a whisper addon channel?
01:34.36KyahxThey dont want whisper channels
01:34.45JJSheetsthey nixxed the idea already.
01:34.48KyahxIt was made very clear during the initial discussion =/
01:34.50JJSheetsno clue why...
01:35.03Xuerian0_o
01:35.06JJSheetsI suppose to discourage bandwidth hogs...
01:35.09AmadeoI notice that sometimes whispers stop working when normal chat is fine
01:37.00ckknightAceComm channels are only joined if an addon uses them
01:37.15ckknightif no one uses the global channel, then it's not joined
01:37.32JJSheetsdamn.  :)
01:37.57vid`http://www.supload.com/listen?s=S0o9ygAAhSc
01:38.10ckknightAmadeo, ?
01:38.54Amadeockknight: Just in WoW, not related to addons
01:46.29TekkubI made a mistake to support Hangul local language to many Addons.
01:46.29TekkubBecause I commit mistake, account is suspended now.
01:46.29TekkubNext, I will not generate mistake.
01:46.30TekkubWhen does suspended account cancel?
01:46.35Tekkub*grin*
01:46.45JJSheetslmao.
01:46.58ckknightTekkub, that guy fucked up my commits
01:47.06ckknighthe didn't read SVN Rules.
01:47.24Tekkubwell if he does it again let us know and it'll be buhbye prolly
01:47.29ckknightI'm fine with him coming back, as long as he reads the rules
01:47.34JJSheetsbtw Tekkub... did you manually add the TOC data to Jigsaw and Omnibus, or was that an autoupdater?  Either way Thanks!!!!
01:47.37ckknighttell him to make sure to read the rules
01:47.43ckknightI was the one who got him suspended
01:47.49Tekkubdid it manually, toying in sandbox now
01:47.57TekkubI know ckk
01:48.03Tekkubyou're a dick
01:48.05Tekkub^^
01:48.06JJSheetslol
01:48.28ckknightwhat? people agreed
01:48.32ckknighthe didn't read the rules.
01:48.44Tekkubpeople agree easily... hey guys is ckk a dick?
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01:49.22ckknightno voice for you, Tekkub
01:49.22JJSheetslol
01:49.40JJSheetsrofl
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01:49.47ckknightyou win this battle.
01:49.50ckknighthey nymbia
01:49.53nymbiahey
01:51.42TainHe's a dick!  Burn him!
01:51.51JJSheetshey now...
01:51.56JJSheetsno dick burning...
01:52.09AmadeoUsually a sign of an STD
01:52.16JJSheetslol
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01:54.47CIA-1703sayclub * r16299 10Cartographer/Modules/ (AlphaScale.lua MapUnhider.lua Notes.lua ZoneInfo.lua): Cartographer - Update koKR
01:54.54JJSheetsoooohhh.
01:55.45ckknightugh, Gonnorhea is bad.
01:55.51JJSheetslol
01:55.51KyahxSo my old guild leader took the 20 some loyal people that were still in the guild, and merged with some other tiny guild.   The next day her and the rest of the officers quit the new guild and went to a high-tier raiding guild.
01:56.09JJSheetsouch
01:56.12KyahxLeaving the old loyal members behind in some guild they just merged with the day before
01:56.44JJSheetssounds like /gquit /ignore badleader
01:56.45ckknightalright, I think this is a good feature for AlphaScale: tooltip scale
01:56.48Neeblerhooray for the expansion and 25 man raids
01:57.03NeeblerIt will minimize retardation like that
01:57.22KyahxNah, I feel mostly bad for my roomate, who was one of those loyal members.  I used to be an officer but they kicked me out for pointing out that prioritizing loot to her was dumb :P
01:57.39KyahxSo I joined a real guild months ago, haha
01:57.42JJSheetsloot should go to the people who work for it.
01:57.56KyahxOh and it did go to the people who worked for it...in her opinion :P
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01:58.07JJSheetsopinions are like assholes.
01:58.17KyahxHer loss, gkicking your webmaster is never a good idea :)
01:58.24JJSheetslol
01:58.36JJSheets"uh... where'd the guild website go?"
01:58.39Kyahx:)
01:59.21ckknightooh, I have a good idea: making the WorldMapTooltip scale independant from the WorldMapFrame scale
01:59.57ckknights/ant/ent/
01:59.58JJSheetssounds good.  how about hiding all the backdrop crud and just have the various regions of the map showing onscreen.
02:00.06ckknightI'll get to it
02:00.11ckknightkeep your kilt on.
02:00.16JJSheetscool.  no rush...
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02:00.31JJSheetsjust an idea.  :)
02:00.36ckknightJJSheets, lern2code, then help me :-P
02:00.58JJSheetsI don't know how to code?  I just got other shit to do =)
02:01.57nymbiaholy crap, this guy who localized manufac localized all the defaults too O.o
02:02.02nymbiathat's like.. hundreds of items
02:02.14JJSheetskoKR stuff?
02:02.17Xueriano.0
02:02.20Kyahxlocalization is the devil
02:02.42JJSheetslocalization if not performed by bleeding fucking imbeciles, is wonderful.
02:03.06nymbiaJJSheets - yeah, koKR, by "damjau"
02:03.21JJSheetsbut I am almost halfway afraid of having set Omnibus up for localization...
02:03.22ckknightkoreans are like robots, they'll do mindless repeatative tasks, and they get off on it
02:03.27nymbialol
02:03.31JJSheetsroflmao
02:03.50ckknighthope there aren't any real Koreans here...
02:03.54Kyahx>: (
02:04.00JJSheetsthat was both wrong and right at the same time.  :p
02:04.01ckknightI don't have anything against our Asian neighbors
02:04.12Kyahxlol
02:04.30ckknightKyahx, the eyes are more slanty than that.
02:04.37Kyahxhaha
02:04.40JJSheetsheh...
02:04.47Kyahx>( (
02:05.04Kyahxthat didnt look as funny as it did in my head
02:05.06ckknightlol, not quite
02:05.24Kyahxgood effort thou
02:05.30Kyahxback to terrible homework
02:05.42JJSheets>.< o.o >.<     Two Koreans and an American walk into a bar...
02:06.06ckknightlol.
02:06.07Xuerian...
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02:06.12ckknightgood one, JJSheets
02:07.03JJSheetsI just don't care taht much... until/unless damjau mucks up my addons.  :p
02:07.11JJSheetss/taht/that/
02:07.36Xuerian^.^ X.x ^.^          Two Koreans and a American walk out of the back room of a bar....
02:07.43JJSheetsroflmao
02:07.55decihaha
02:08.28CIA-1703nymbia * r16300 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
02:08.28CIA-17Manufac:
02:08.28CIA-17- Fixed creating wrong item when entering number to craft.
02:08.42ckknightquestion! should POIs be independent of scale?
02:08.55XuerianPoint of Interest?
02:08.57fathomare there any mods to help control people spamming in raids etc?
02:09.01JJSheetsckknight, depends on scale and whether you hide em.
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02:09.15Xuerianfathom: Spamming what? o.0
02:09.17ckknightguess I should let the user decide...
02:09.21JJSheetsif the scale is too small, unscaled POIS could overlap.
02:09.29fathomrolls... macros, all sorts of junk.
02:09.40fathomand /ignore doens't ignore /random
02:09.46XuerianBigWigs should handle the boss spam
02:09.50decirolls are under the interface options
02:09.55KyahxXuerian: How so?
02:09.55deciuncheck detailed loot info
02:09.58fathomnah, this is retarded guildie spam.
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02:10.11fathomdeci, that's only rolls from drops when doing group loot.
02:10.11JJSheetsbut then again... if a person has that many damn POIs in one spot maybe it could combine them?
02:10.25XuerianKyahx: It has a option to mute *** INCOMING WTFDOOM *** messages, doesn't it? I certainly dont' get them <.<
02:10.32ckknightnot gonna do that :-P
02:10.34ckknighttoo complicated
02:10.39deciwell, you could do what i do, which is have 987 tabs to filter the madness
02:10.46JJSheetsbleh.
02:10.59fathomtrue i could do that.
02:11.33JJSheetsnymbia, if nothing else interferes, I'm starting on JigsawLib.  :)
02:11.41nymbiahot :D
02:12.11JJSheetslooking at manufac now to see how you'd likely end up wanting to use it.  :)
02:12.21fathomhmmm now how to filter system messages..
02:12.22decii got most of my guild to switch to ace addons and the Raid leader and everyone he gives an (A) too has bigwigs enabled every fight, so i made a window called "WTBCTRABACK" when i have raid chat
02:12.26CIA-1703ckknight * r16301 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer-AlphaScale - added in tooltip scale, which is independent of the world map scale.
02:13.04JJSheetsany ace mods or prat addons to filter chuck norris idiocy?
02:13.18nymbiaJJSheets: yup.  It'd be great to have the caching external and shared.. save cpu cycles overall, especially since i'm so bad at efficient caching ;)
02:13.53JJSheetsnymbia: not sure I'm better :)  we'll see.  :)
02:13.58nymbiahaha
02:14.12JJSheetsnymbia: tho Jigsaw hasn't gotten any speed complaints yet... :)
02:15.04nymbiai was getting the same type of dewdrop refresh lag with it that i get on manufac.. course, my mage has every alch recipe in the game so it's about as much data to process as you can get
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02:15.19JJSheetshmmmm...
02:15.51nymbiawell, less lag.
02:16.03nymbiabut you don't sort the skills once they're within the categories, correct?
02:16.16JJSheetsnope.  just sorted by header.
02:16.30JJSheetswell... header and tradeskill obviously...
02:16.38nymbiayeah :)
02:17.04JJSheetslemme read up on Dewdroplib a bit and see what I can come up with...
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02:17.28nymbiait's just cuz it refreshes every level when you click an item
02:17.55nymbiaso if your levels are huge or process alot of data, they can take a long time.
02:18.22JJSheetsnot sure it could get fixed without some modification to dewdroplib then...
02:18.30nymbiathe only part i have yet to figure out is why some seemingly harmless and short lines will sometimes take forever to execute dduring a full refresh
02:19.34nymbialike... i set up some debug timers around certain parts of the menu..  the top level never takes more than a hundredth of a second or so to generate when you're just mousing over, but it can take upwards of a second when an item is clicked and the whole thing's refreshing
02:20.01JJSheetshow many menu levels are shown at that time?
02:20.13nymbia3-5
02:20.36JJSheetsnumber of lines on screen among all of the menuboxes?
02:20.44JJSheetsaverage...
02:21.11nymbiawell i test it with my biggest category, elixir.  so it's probably near a hundred lines, a little less though
02:22.04nymbiagoes faster for slower categories, but it's not the sort that's slowing it down. the first bunch of levels all finish in a matter of a tenth of a second, the top level always takes the longest.
02:22.24JJSheetshmmm....
02:22.28nymbiathe timer's still in if you wanna check it out, just switch on debugging
02:22.42CIA-1703ckknight * r16302 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - added a fake player button, which allows notes to be created on the player POI.
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02:23.19JJSheetsNot sure I have enough recipes to test it out efficiently... still a lowbie in game...
02:23.28nymbiaah, yeah.
02:23.44nymbiamaybe if you do a reset so everything's in the same category.
02:23.48Valleriushey nevcairiel, you about?
02:23.58JJSheetsbut I'll work on it... and try to fix up my queue code.. it gets some very strange bugs occasionally...
02:24.11nymbiahehe ;)
02:26.53JJSheetsckknight: quick question about dewdrop's addline method if you have time
02:28.09CIA-1703ckknight * r16303 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer-AlphaScale - added :GetRealTooltipScale()
02:29.37Kyahxis there a specific place for TBC version of addons?
02:29.43ckknightk...
02:29.56JJSheetsckknight: in dewdrop:AddLine(), if you supply a table with the key value pairs instead of putting key value pairs as args dewdrop will reconstruct an entire table from scratch?  Why not just use the passed in table?
02:30.27Amadeo9:30, I have no more hope for a key tonight
02:30.33AdrineQuick question: Is there something special I need to do to have my addon's AceDB be available during OnInitialize?
02:30.59KyahxAmadeo: I didnt get one either =/
02:31.17AmadeoIt seems they did keys backwards
02:31.18Amadeoso
02:31.19JJSheetsAdrine:  YourAddon:RegisterDB maybe?
02:31.25Amadeosigning up first just hurts you more
02:31.29Kyahx=(
02:31.36AdrineJJSheets: Doing that, but it only becomes available after OnInitialize
02:31.49KyahxDamn, I signed up the second I got the e-mail
02:31.59AmadeoIt's like doing /random and getting a 1 and beating people who had 100's!
02:32.02Amadeoyeah, me too
02:32.17KyahxWell, hopefully they keep sending them out tomarrow too
02:32.23Kyahxand not make us wait untill next week
02:32.31JJSheetsare you doing the registerdb immediately after setting the YourAddon variable?  If so I'm out of Ideas.
02:32.49AdrineIt's a few lines down, but yes.
02:32.58AmadeoYeah, I hope so
02:33.21JJSheetsAdrine... try to do db stuff in OnEnable then I guess...
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02:34.13ckknightJJSheets, cause you're not supposed to use the table, it's a hack.
02:34.41CIA-1703sayclub * r16304 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer - Update koKR
02:34.57JJSheetsckknight: wouldn't providing a table and letting dewdrop take it over be somewhat more efficient?  especially for huge Dewdrop menus?
02:35.13ckknightDewdrop does funky things to its internal tables
02:35.24ckknightso it wouldn't want to mess up your tables
02:35.28Kirkburnckknight, can you update the topic? TargetUnit is the Horde guild, CastSpell is the Alliance EU guild
02:36.05JJSheetsckknight: fine.  let dewdrop use the provided table.  let it take ownership of it in a sense, and tell people not to try to reuse the same table later.
02:36.51ckknightyea, just need to register it, and register your defaults if you have any.
02:39.00Amadeosomeone think up a cool domain name for me :P
02:39.12eternally777wishiwascool.com
02:39.38JJSheetsckknight: or possibly let people provide the table and a true value immediately after it to indicate that dewdrop can take ownership of the table, thus skipping the full table copy.
02:39.40eternally777Oh wait, that's mine :P
02:40.04JJSheetsckknight: If you want I can code it up
02:41.06ckknightAdrine, the database is only available on OnInitialize.
02:41.17ckknight...
02:41.57Amadeoeternally777: says it's taken by someone at pool-72-70-153-157.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net
02:42.04ckknightJJSheets, not gonna happen...
02:42.12*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | EU-Beta go to Tempest Keep (PvE) guild: TargetUnit(H)/CastSpell(A) | US-Beta go to Hellfire (PvE)
02:42.27Amadeoare there TBC PvP servers?
02:42.31ckknightthe ownership idea, that is
02:42.38Silviu-1
02:42.54KyahxAmadeo: there is both, but it sounds like all the Ace people are going PvE
02:43.01Amadeodamn
02:43.18KyahxIs there a guild on US servers yet?
02:43.53Kirkburnckknight, thanks :D
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02:44.20BL|Durnhey does anyone know of a good replacement for critline?
02:44.26KyahxTopScoreFu?
02:44.31BL|Durnsweet thanks
02:44.34Amadeohaha
02:44.37JJSheetsckknight:  just seems inefficient in extreme cases, like I said, I can code it up, see how well it improves things... if it improves things a lot, and doesn't break anything else at all, would you then consider it?  Or should I just drop this and figure a different way out?
02:45.06BL|Durn^_^
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02:46.05Silviu-Btw, about topscore does the original author still maintain it ? cause i really want not to see dmg done on special mobs .. like bwl ones or Thadius etc..
02:47.05kergothSilviu-: agreed, vulnerabilities screw up the scores
02:47.56nymbiableh.. SetBindingSpell(), SetBindingItem(), and SetBindingMacro() all bind to ButtonDown instead of ButtonUp :(
02:48.07Amadeoprobably easiest to ignore damage above a certain amount, and just adjust it as the game progresses, eh?
02:48.31Amadeomaybe not, since gear could make it vary too much
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02:48.45eternally777I think the method of filtering depends on how many mobs need filtered
02:48.46ckknightI already said no
02:48.55Silviu-Well ... my sb max is 4200 crit over 4500 can be ignored :)
02:48.56JJSheetsokie dokie.
02:48.56ckknightit's wholly unnecessary
02:49.00ValleriusAnyone know if there's a way to keep ScrollingMessageFrame from wrapping on long lines? I've considered just truncating the string before passing it in, but that varies with font size and whatnot...
02:49.16AmadeoSilviu-: You can crit 4200 on non-vuln?
02:49.19ckknightDewdrop doesn't standardly take tables for a reason.
02:49.22CIA-1703thiana * r16305 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc libs/): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Moved externals to Tek's InBed control
02:49.48JJSheetswhat's the reason?  :)
02:50.05din`Vallerius: i tried to figure out a way to do that a few weeks ago, never could though :/
02:50.07ckknightyea, but they suck
02:50.25Silviu-Yes
02:50.59Valleriusdin`: Boo. I'm trying to rig up a 1-line SMF, but it wraps and bleeds out of the frame with long messages.
02:51.15ckknightomg lag
02:51.26[FH]Birdemaniso far i am liking grid....just gonna take me a week of raiding to figure out which options i like
02:51.48din`yeah. FontString is supposed to have some methods to set the wrap mode, but i couldnt figure out how to get the FontString associated with a message frame to actually do anything with that
02:52.15eternally777pastamancer: ping
02:52.51din`i was thinking of wiritng it to an external fontstring that's set to truncate, but i dont know if theres any way to get the "as displayed" truncated string from one of those
02:53.52Silviu-Amadeo 4194 on loatheb without flask. only hakkar buff and other dmg things ... with shadowbolt :)
02:54.11Amadeonice
02:54.28Silviu-And shadow vuln from priest :)
02:54.33Amadeohehe
02:55.02CIA-1703thiana * r16306 10tcgMobResists/: tcgMobResists: Dropping project.
02:55.12CIA-1703ckknight * r16307 10Cartographer/Modules/MapUnhider.lua: Cartographer-MapUnhider - added errata data for all the new expansion zones.
02:55.20Valleriusdin`: Aha! FontString:SetNonSpaceWrap... I might be able to fake the scrolling when in single-line mode, or something... hmm.
02:58.58din`let me know if you have any luck
02:59.14din`one possible problem when faking it might be hyperlink clicking, too
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03:01.38CIA-1703ckknight * r16308 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - getting rid of the fake player button, knowing that it was wholly unnecessary.
03:01.59nymbiawell shit.  manufac can't cast tradeskills in combat in burning crusade, and i dont see any way to fix it. not that it's crucial to fix, but it still sucks
03:02.29JJSheetsO.o people craft while getting smacked about the head?
03:03.31AmadeoI do first aid in the field sometimes!
03:03.49din`never know when you'll need an emergency arcanite reaper
03:03.56JJSheetslol
03:04.04TainI did transmutes all the time on raids
03:04.35JJSheetsmaybe blizzard just doesn't when this happening anymore... can't say I blame em...
03:04.57JJSheetss/when/want/
03:07.09JJSheetsnymbia:  You running TBC?
03:07.13AdrineWe had someone pull aggro on a Geddon pull with an Arcanite transmute. We think.
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03:07.24AdrineDruid pulled aggro and didn't buff or anything.
03:07.28AdrineWe don't know what the hell happened.
03:07.33JJSheetslol
03:07.36AdrineBut she was forbidden from transmuting on raids from then on.
03:07.39KirkburnWhat's the script command to show/hide the pet bar? Mine has disappeared in TBC
03:08.01arkanespulled aggro via transmute?
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03:09.19AdrineThat's all we can figure.
03:09.32arkanescrazy
03:09.48arkanesbut I bet nobody has tested transmute to get it added to KTM :P
03:09.50AdrineI don't know what happened, but we pet pull Geddon. Geddon's chugging down the tunnel, and all of a sudden he veered way off course and beelined for the druid...who had just completed an arcanite transmute.
03:10.20arkanesI should try making a bandage or something next time we do a pet pull
03:10.33AdrineThis also theoretically means that mages could pull aggro by making water.
03:10.38AdrineWhich would be so very, very awesome.
03:10.45arkanesbwahaha
03:10.50arkanesnext time a mage gets BA on vael
03:10.54haarmI don't think that would work
03:10.57arkanes400 stacks of water and unlimited aggro
03:11.02AdrineAhahahah
03:11.28haarmI think Geddon has a thing for minerals, being underground and all, but also being made of fire he would be opposed to water altogether and run back down the tunnel the other way
03:11.50Amadeoor die instantly
03:12.03haarmalthough making him shit his pants could prove messy
03:12.08AdrineGuys, my table header library is totally awesome right now. :D
03:12.19haarmin facy, a new mass of lava could halt progress entirely
03:12.22haarm*fact
03:12.36AdrineFully resizable table headers with minimum widths that respect the bounds of their parent frame and provide callbacks for resizing and reordering a table of data.
03:12.53ckknightclasstime.
03:13.00haarmtable headers, liiiikeee.. columned lists?
03:13.02JJSheetshave fun! :)
03:13.03AdrineYup
03:13.06haarmcool
03:13.10arkanesAdrine: you host this anywhere?
03:13.15haarmI was actually thinking about that the other day
03:13.19AdrineNot yet, but I just wrote it
03:13.24haarmI wanted to display some tabular data
03:13.26CIA-1703ckknight * r16310 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - now you can place notes on party/raid members. Bet no other mapnotes addon can do that. shazzam!
03:13.27arkanescause it sounds really nifty from what you said and I want to check it out
03:13.34AdrineI'll probably request wowace SVN access soon, because it IS an ace lib
03:13.46arkanesspammy goddamn windows
03:13.46AdrineGimme a sec and I'll dump it into my personal SVN
03:13.58haarmmake sure you request it 3 days before you actually want it :p
03:14.02arkanesI don't need 20 stupid popups telling me I'm connected to a wireless network
03:14.08AdrineHeheh, I'll just use my personal SVN in the meantime
03:14.57arkanesoh look another one
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03:15.34AdrineThat's windows actually reconnecting to the network, IIRC
03:15.39arkanesspeaking of waiting, still no beta key
03:15.49arkanesAdrine: yeah, I know, still annoying :P
03:15.52haarmarkanes, when was the list sent off ?
03:15.55JJSheetswelcome to the club arkanes.
03:15.56haarmwith your name on it
03:16.05arkanesmine should have been in the first chunk
03:16.09haarmdamn
03:16.13KirkburnAnyone? What's the script command to show/hide the pet bar? Mine has disappeared in TBC
03:16.28haarmI had a list with my name on it sent off at 6AM GMT 2 days ago, I got my key this afternoon
03:16.35arkanespoop
03:16.47haarmI'm EU, dunno if that makes a difference to the processing
03:16.49arkanesI guess I should double check with Cairenn that mine went out
03:17.04arkanesthe EU guys seemed to get thiers first, do we have confirmed keys from US people yet?
03:17.08JJSheetshaarm:  I now hate Blizzard.  I've been waiting 4 days.
03:17.25KirkburnThey're always sent out midweek
03:17.29arkanesJJSheets: from what I hear, they bulk send them out on Tuesday
03:17.35CairennI have no idea if they keys have been sent or not, I submitted the names to Blizz, they send the keys
03:17.36haarmarkanes, well there was a rumour that there was an imbalance in the key distribution, and US got way more keys sent out than EU
03:17.52haarmso maybe EU is on a priority or something, who knows
03:17.55JJSheetsif they bulk them tuesday they're frickin slackin cause I should've gotten it today.
03:18.17arkanesCairenn: I'm not trying to be annoying
03:18.25JJSheetsCairenn We're not bitching at Wowi, we're bitching at Blizzard.  :)
03:18.26Cairennoh, I know, not upset with you
03:18.34arkanesI know you can't tell if they went out from blizz
03:18.34JJSheetscool :)
03:18.36Cairennjust, I don't know what to tell you guys any more
03:18.40haarmsee if Tekkub got his
03:18.54haarmhe was submitted in the same batch as mine I think, he won one from worldofwar.net
03:19.00JJSheetscairenn: how about, "Suck it up!"?   "QQ more"?
03:19.06Cairennheh
03:19.08arkaneslrn2beta?
03:19.13JJSheetslol
03:19.33eternally777Cairenn: I guess us asking Blizzard directly wouldn't accomplish anything?
03:19.39JJSheetsbwahahahahahaha
03:19.42JJSheetsas if...
03:19.46arkanesheh
03:19.49haarmprobably definitely not :p
03:19.51Cairennif they don't show up in the next day or so, I'll be looking into it
03:20.06arkanesAnyone from the US confirmed as recieved one? All the people in this channel I saw were EU
03:20.12haarmCairenn, keys usually go out after maintenance
03:20.16eternally777pastamancer got one.
03:20.18CairennI know 3 US got them lst night
03:20.22haarmI even got my EU key after US maintenance
03:20.29Cairennwhich confused the heck out of me
03:20.44Cairennbut I'm pretty sure all the ones so far today have been US
03:20.53Cairennerrr, EU, rather, sorry
03:21.00JJSheetsmaybe they're running it like a contest, and pulling names out of a hat...
03:21.12haarmwell if anyone is awaiting a key and needs something testing, I'm more than happy to help out
03:21.14eternally777JJSheets: I wouldn't be surprised
03:21.20Cairennno, it isn't a contest, at least not the names coming from my site
03:21.32eternally777If they were suddenly like, "We can't just accept all of them."
03:21.40JJSheets:)  I was only halfway kidding... heheh
03:21.49eternally777I'm skeptical :\
03:21.56arkanesthey probably have some verification process on thier end
03:22.01haarmthey do
03:22.07arkanesso maybe the dude who handles US address took the day off or something
03:22.08haarmbecause they stop people getting more than 1 key
03:22.10JJSheetsthe bastards...
03:22.13haarmper account
03:22.45JJSheetshey I got an Idea... don't let an account be activated with two of em... let the computers sort it out.
03:23.00arkanes"We are aware of intermittent lag issues affecting the issuing of Beta keys. We will be performing rolling realm restarts in an attempt to solve the problem"
03:23.07Adrinehttp://svn.digitalsentience.com/projects/wow/trunk/
03:23.08haarmnot activated with 2, but 2 issued to the same account
03:23.16AdrineThere's only one folder there - TableTop - which is the lib
03:23.47arkanesfancy SVN
03:23.49JJSheetsah... here I am thinking people wouldn't sell the second one on ebay...
03:23.54JJSheetssilly trusting me...
03:23.55AdrineIt's just XSLT :)
03:24.00JJSheetsI gotta stop that....
03:24.01arkaneswas about to ask
03:24.11AdrineView source on that page and you'll see how it's set up
03:24.14arkanesif you had some svnview proxy or just transformed the default svn output
03:24.36AdrineNope, just the default
03:24.40arkanescute
03:25.04haarmto be honest, I expected it to be... bigger :p
03:25.08haarmwhat functionality does it have?
03:25.45AdrineYou give it a list of tabs with options, a parent frame, and a template to use for the tabs, it create the tabs and manages all their positioning and resizing
03:25.51arkanesyou pass it a virtual template to inherit from?
03:25.55AdrineYeah
03:25.56CIA-1703mpstark * r16311 10PetExtend/ (22 files in 10 dirs): PetExtend: Intial Commit
03:26.00AdrineI'm being lazy for the moment :)
03:26.05haarmok, cool :)
03:26.14AdrineYou can give it callbacks to be called when you resize a column, or when you click a column header (For resort, whatever)
03:26.22haarmbut the lists themselves are down to the user to manage
03:26.26AdrineYeah.
03:26.29haarmahh ok the callbacks would let you resize your list
03:26.31AdrineIf you'd like, I can throw up the current dev version of Sanity2 to show it off.
03:26.32AdrineYup
03:26.58arkanesas an API issue I'd probably prefer to pass a table of callbacks instead of a bunch of arguments
03:27.03haarmwell I always think a demo is much nicer than just an API listing
03:27.14AdrineHehe, definitely.
03:27.43arkanesdoes it depend on any other ace libs?
03:27.51arkanesbesides the ace core, of course
03:28.00AdrineThe table manager doesn't, no
03:28.03haarmofftopic, OMG I hate securetemplates already! I can't even do a trinket macro!
03:28.29haarmas soon as I get in combat it breaks the macro
03:28.48Adrinehttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/sanity/SanityAce/SanityAce.zip - there's the current dev Sanity. Disclaimer: Not cleaned up, lots of libs included that I tried out but am not using, may be prone to breakage, and isn't finished.
03:28.49arkanesyou're trying  a toep/fireball macro or something?
03:28.52AdrineThat said, give it a shot.
03:28.59haarmtalisman of ascendence / mind flay
03:29.01haarmbut same thing
03:29.20arkanesjust /use talisman of whatever /cast mind flay
03:29.33arkanesyou'll get the cooldown error if the CD isn't up, but it will work
03:29.33haarm<PROTECTED>
03:29.41arkanesit's use item by name
03:29.45TemUseInventoryItem
03:29.51arkanesexcept by name, not by slot
03:29.53haarmI had /script UseInventoryItem(14)    /cast Mind Flay
03:29.55TemUseContainerItem
03:30.07haarmit doesn't allow it
03:30.14Temoh, is there a UseByName now?
03:30.19TemI haven't tried
03:30.22arkanesall of the old Usewhatever functions and CastSpellByName are all protected
03:30.25eternally777omg.. I think the Cryolysis code is making me go blind :(
03:30.28arkanesTem: no, it's a slashcommand
03:30.36arkanesnot availble to lua code
03:30.38TemI know that there's a slash command
03:31.01TemI'm just wondering if there is a new API function to support it
03:31.02JJSheetslmao still trying to modularize SacredBuff huh eternally777
03:31.08arkaneshaarm: everyone says that justs taking the commands for a trinket macro should work
03:31.10eternally777I'm not going to modularize
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03:31.17JJSheetsmasochist
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03:31.23arkanesTem: as far as I know it's not exposed to lua, because its one of those things you arne't supposed to do anymore
03:31.29Temugh
03:31.33TemI'm gonna have to look it up
03:31.43Temand YES ITS EXPOSED TO LUA
03:31.45Temjesus
03:31.47eternally777SacredBuff is too unique to make it universal, and to modularize it would make it too bloated for a priest, considering how many buttons Mages and Warlocks need.
03:31.59Temhow do you think the slash command would do it if it wasn't?
03:32.01JJSheets:)
03:32.03Temmagic?
03:32.10JJSheetsmojo
03:32.13eternally777Tem: I thought it was voodoo...
03:32.16arkanesit'd be implemented using a private function you can't call from user code?
03:32.36haarmif it's in one of the signed blizzard addons it's ok right ?
03:32.46arkanespresumably
03:33.05DrDrekinda odd wow forums go down and trying to access page results in an ICMP Ping from bliz lol
03:33.06TemUseItemByName
03:33.07KirkburnFrickin' imps, I died to frickin' IMPS
03:33.23haarmKirkburn, the ones near thrallmar ? :D
03:33.26Kirkburnmmm
03:33.40Azurewraththe ones near Thrallmar are harmless ;)
03:33.43KirkburnI was going for the Dreadcaller :P
03:33.51[Liquidor]Hellooo everyone
03:33.53TemSecure code can do whatever the hell it wants to
03:33.56Temwithout restriction
03:34.06Temit doesn't even need a hardware event for spell casts
03:34.40Temthere was a hole that allowed you to load arbitrary code as trusted in early beta
03:35.11Temjust for shits, I created a frame and set it's OnUpdate to function()CastSpellByName("Conjure Water")end
03:35.11JJSheetsadios all, I'm gonna go grab dinner and vegetate for a bit.
03:35.36Tem... and then I walked off for a bit
03:35.50Temwhen I got back, I found my inventory quite full of water
03:37.42Kirkburnlol
03:38.45AdrineThat's awesome
03:38.57haarmI'm sure there's more holes to come
03:39.10[Liquidor]When creating frames by lua is it better to do it at the beginning of the code or at the end ?
03:39.15haarmbtw, Blizzards "signed" AddOns, I guess it's some sort of public key signature?
03:39.35arkanesprobably somethign like that
03:39.41eternally777[Liquidor]: All that's important is that the frames are created before you reference them.
03:39.50Adrinebtw, anyone that grabbed that Sanity zip, gimme feedback, especially if you've been a past Sanity user
03:39.51arkanesYou can find MovePad on wowi, it has a license file in the addon folder
03:39.51[Liquidor]Okay
03:39.54haarmthat's a shame, makes it incredibly difficult to sign your own addons :D
03:39.56[Liquidor]So early in the code I belive?
03:40.33haarm[Liquidor], I'd even be tempted to put all my frame creation in a seperate lua file.
03:40.37haarmfor ease of reading
03:40.42Xuerian[Liquidor]: It doesn't matter when in the code unless that point is conditional. A good time for ace addons is either in OnInitialize or in a function called in OnInitialize
03:40.46haarm(if there was a lot)
03:40.52eternally777Liquidator, if you create the frame within a function, then call the function before referencing the frame.
03:41.09arkanesso, at a hotel on an unsecured wireless internet connection
03:41.10[Liquidor]Okay thanks <3
03:41.19arkanesand explorer randomly crashes
03:41.24arkanesshould I be paranoid?
03:41.28haarmI would be
03:41.30[Liquidor]Just have to get used to do it in lua now since Xuerian provided me some nifty coding structure :)
03:41.38Xuerian:)
03:41.47haarmarkanes, actually I had a similar problem, and it was the shitty wireless cards software
03:42.14AdrineI had the same problem
03:42.14arkanesI use the wired most of the time but haven't had a problem with this
03:42.18Xuerianarkanes: Explorer?
03:42.22Xuerianarkanes: Why explorer?
03:42.25Xuerianarkanes: WHY?!
03:42.26arkanesXuerian: windows explorer
03:42.29AdrineI had a....realtek card? I think
03:42.31Xuerianarkanes: ... oh.
03:42.33arkanesit was the task bar going
03:42.38AdrineIts drivers were horridly buggy
03:42.51arkanesmines some intel chipset thing
03:42.55haarmright, I'm going to grab some food, then try and find some suitably boring movie to put me to sleep, adios
03:44.27Xuerianhave fun, haarm :p
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03:48.27CIA-1703mpstark * r16312 10PetExtend/ (. PetExtend.toc): PetExtend: Changed TOC slightly and trying to get externals working properly.
03:51.32[Liquidor]Uhm when a frame has an OnEvent object is it then possible for the lua part to use this. as a direction to its framename?
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03:52.33AdrineWhat do you mean?
03:52.55Temwith the only exception of during addon load up, the 'this' global is always set
03:53.02AdrineIn an event handler, you can call this:GetName() if that's what you mean
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03:55.40[Liquidor]Yeah that's what I mean
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03:55.50[Liquidor]but how do I use the framename as a table name?
03:56.13[Liquidor]within an event
03:56.15eternally777FrameName[key]
03:56.28[Liquidor]Okay so FrameName.Key doesn't work ?
03:56.42[Liquidor]Cause gives me an error on that
03:56.47XuerianFrameName[key] is FrameName.whateverwasinkey
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03:57.40[Liquidor]So FrameName[key] ~= FrameName.key ?
03:57.48Xuerianunless key = "key"
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03:59.57Xuerian[] allows you to access table indexes that are integers, strings you put together, or that are in variables.... or functions. Since you can't go FrameName."te".."xt", you can go FrameName["te".."xt"]
04:00.18[Liquidor]Arh okay
04:00.26eternally777heh, sorry to confuse you
04:00.28[Liquidor]Hashed tables
04:00.31[Liquidor]I belive
04:00.34eternally777Yeha
04:00.42eternally777Hash tables
04:00.42XuerianOr normal tables, table[1], etc
04:00.42[Liquidor]Btw this one SetScript("OnUpdate", function(arg1) self:TaskBar_OnUpdate(arg1) end), should there be 2x arg1 ?
04:01.56[Liquidor]And what does self: in this case refer to? The frame it's setting a script to or the function it's within?
04:02.17[Liquidor]Sorry for asking these questions. I'm just converting from xml to lua :)
04:02.22Xuerianself: refers to the object the SetScript() call is inside
04:02.47XuerianSuch as XLoot:SetupFrames() setscript(blablafunction() self:, self = XLoot
04:02.48eternally777Tough step, if I remember correctly
04:03.05[Liquidor]It's a bit tricky eternally777 I must say :)
04:03.09eternally777And passing arg1 like that isn't necessary
04:03.24[Liquidor]How come?
04:03.35XuerianOnUpdate doesn't even pass anything, does it? o.0
04:03.42Xuerian(I was just converting your code verbatim >.<)
04:03.43pastamancersure it does
04:03.49[Liquidor]Ye it sends the time between updates
04:04.17CIA-1703mpstark * r16315 10PetExtend/: PetExtend: Reminder to self: don't be stupid; fix the externals BEFORE commiting them.
04:04.19[Liquidor]eternally777>And passing arg1 like that isn't necessary - explain :)
04:04.23MpstarkSorry if my commits are being noisy!
04:04.35eternally7771s, Gothik
04:04.43MpstarkI think I got the hang of externals.
04:04.49Temget used to passing the args as parameters
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04:05.00Temin wow2 the engine does it for you
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04:05.24mjcnever fear for I is here.
04:05.33Xuerianzomg we're all saved.
04:07.35mjcsoon as my svn checkout completes I'm going to update my addon pack. :P
04:07.42XuerianWootness.
04:07.51Xuerian~love mjc
04:07.52purlIf you love mjc so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
04:07.58mjchaha
04:08.02Xuerianpurl, because...
04:08.05Xuerianpurl, I hate you
04:08.06purlYou hate you?
04:08.11mjccept the pack isn't really not much of anything.
04:08.11Xueriandamnit.
04:08.14mjc*is really
04:08.20eternally777Tem: What do you mean?
04:08.20mjcjust some S&D'd ace2 mods.
04:08.49Temeternally777, see the changes thread
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04:09.19Mike-N-GoHello, may I have a brief explanation about this room?
04:09.41pastamancer~haste
04:09.42purli heard haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
04:09.57pastamancerhow's that?
04:10.08mjchaha+
04:10.16mjcpurl: botsnack
04:10.16purl:), mjc
04:10.19Xuerian~tekkub
04:10.20purl[tekkub] a furry pervert
04:10.26mjchahah
04:10.33XuerianThat's your description. Enjoy, Mike-N-Go.
04:11.21Mike-N-GoWell, there are blue things at the top of this page...
04:11.42XuerianAnd they don't satisfy your curiosity?
04:12.12mjcthey're kiddie pr0n links. click away.
04:12.13Mike-N-GoI was hopping for a brief, explanation from a member of this room..
04:12.23Mike-N-Go[hopping is used as pun]
04:12.31Xuerian~whalenutshot Mike-N-Go
04:12.32purlACTION smashes Mike-N-Go in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo
04:12.32mjc~ckknight
04:12.34purlckknight is, like, awesome
04:12.46*** topic/#wowace by Tem -> http://www.wowace.com | http://svn.wowace.com | http://www.wowace.com/files | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.wowace.com/trac | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TBC_Converted_Addons | All TBC users must use the TBC branch of Ace2 | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H)
04:12.51pastamanceryeah, this channel is mostly about whales
04:13.03mjc~whaleslap pastamancer
04:13.05purlACTION beats pastamancer upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
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04:13.17mjchaha
04:13.19Xuerianrofl
04:13.26mjcpwnt
04:13.32mjcXuerian: bash.org that
04:13.40XuerianAmen.
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04:19.42mjcman this girl I was hanging out with tongiht was so fun
04:19.54mjcstill not sure whether she liked the goodnight kiss or not.
04:20.01XuerianDo tell more.
04:20.40mjcpics incoming.
04:20.50XuerianSweet.
04:21.06mjcwhat's oTweaks
04:21.57mjchttp://myspace-912.vo.llnwd.net/00836/21/95/836515912_l.jpg
04:22.10mjchttp://myspace-826.vo.llnwd.net/01207/62/85/1207305826_l.jpg
04:22.20eternally777pastamancer:  ping
04:22.28pastamancerwhat's the dev guild on US TBC servers?
04:23.30pastamanceroh, I thought those guilds were for the EU servers
04:24.07pastamancerI suppose reading comprehension helps
04:24.30TemOriginally it was written in such a way that implied on the EU servers
04:24.33XuerianNice, Mjc :P
04:24.38TemI just rewrote it a few minutes ago to make it more clear
04:24.45Tembut I see that it's still not 100% clear
04:24.55mjcXuerian: she's much more attractive in real life, and one hell of a dancer. :P
04:25.18XuerianSounds fun XD
04:25.24XuerianNice mark :P
04:26.35Cairennpastamancer: you need an invite?
04:26.49Xuerianmjc/all females: In a respectful, appreciative manner, of course
04:26.58pastamancerCairenn: well, my main hasn't transfered over yet, so I just have a level 1
04:27.03Cairennso?
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04:27.07Cairennwhich side?
04:27.13pastamancerhorde
04:27.20Cairennname?
04:27.24pastamancerI'll take an invite on Marinara
04:27.37Cairenninvite inc
04:28.05Cairennaccept :p
04:28.19pastamancerjust god DCd
04:28.25Cairennlol
04:28.36pastamancerI'm playing on my mac while my pc downloads the beta client
04:29.04pastamancerok, back
04:30.49pastamancerthanks
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04:37.24pastamancerwow, laggy as hell
04:37.31pastamancerI wonder how muc of that is me
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04:44.56mjcbrb
04:45.00malrethpastamancer: i noticed that the pc beta client download also includes a mac os x app with it
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04:48.27pastamancerI don't have a wow.exe on my mac
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04:51.02NeeblerError Redirect!
04:52.27kebinusanhmm, I cant believe someone just threw a snowball at a healer dancing on heigan
04:52.48[Liquidor]heh
04:53.00[Liquidor]does it matter? heigan can be killed with 5
04:53.12[Liquidor]uhm 10 would be easier though but 5 yeah
04:53.30kebinusanit matters when the healer goes ballistic on vent and the mt dies
04:54.33[Liquidor]hehehehe
04:55.20pastamancerthe bloodelf starting area is great.  there's cute cats all over the place
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04:58.15kebinusanthe real question I have for TBC is what new minipets are available
04:59.55kaidentons
05:00.06kaidenmini dragonhawks mini moths, mini nether whelps etc
05:00.26JJSheetsmini beta keys?
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05:01.44pastamancerooh, mana tap is handy for paladin pulling on mana users
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05:12.36Kirkburnpastamancer, but why must everyone keep killing the poor little things!
05:13.56pastamancerpeople are killing the little cats?!  Thats terrible!
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05:25.29CIA-1703rabbit * r16321 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: .FuBarPlugin-2.0: Make sure to not access self.db if it doesn't exist.
05:26.27vhaarrAny of the ops around?
05:26.41vhaarrhyperChipmunk?
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05:32.55hyperChipmunksup nub
05:33.06hyperChipmunkhey, I'm an op
05:33.18hyperChipmunkwhen did that happen?
05:33.50CIA-1703sylvanaar * r16322 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/SWStatsFu.lua: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: Tooltip format improvements
05:33.58vhaarrI'm just guessing that the ops have a recent Ace2 and TBC branch and commit rights, although I know that's not true for any of the current ops.
05:34.03vhaarrSo .. nvm.
05:34.19hyperChipmunkyea I probably do
05:34.34CIA-1703sylvanaar * r16323 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu: Fix for a bug that would leave you in combat when you zoned out while in combat.
05:34.37hyperChipmunkneed something specific?
05:34.45vhaarryes, 2 bugs in AceAddon-2.0
05:35.37vhaarrhyperChipmunk: One is present in trunk and branch, one is only present in branch.
05:35.44vhaarr(due to the lack of sync'ing between the two)
05:37.11vhaarrhyperChipmunk: The branch bugs are on line 62 and 80, ["Development Tools "] = "Development Tools ", should obviously not include the space at the end, and the for loop needs to pair CATEGORIES.
05:37.15hyperChipmunkdrop me some diffs and I'll see what I can do
05:37.20hyperChipmunkok
05:37.33vhaarrThe trunk bug is just pairing CATEGORIES.
05:37.38hyperChipmunklemme look; I've been away for awhile
05:37.48vhaarrthey are simple bugs :)
05:37.58hyperChipmunkyea, but i gotta find the repos
05:38.06hyperChipmunkurl?
05:38.57vhaarrfor dev access?
05:39.08hyperChipmunkw.r.t. root
05:39.14vhaarrhyperChipmunk: dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2
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05:39.25vhaarrdev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace2/TBC/Ace2
05:39.33hyperChipmunkk
05:41.34Temvhaarr, why wouldn't I have rights to the Ace2 trunk?
05:42.32CIA-1703sayclub * r16324 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
05:42.32CIA-17AutoBar:
05:42.32CIA-17-Update koKR
05:42.50CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk 07TBC * r16325 10Ace2/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua:
05:42.50CIA-17AceAddon-2.0: (at request of vharr)
05:42.50CIA-17- 62: "Development Tools " -> "Development Tools"
05:42.50CIA-17- 80: for k,v in CATEGORIES -> for k,v in pairs(CATEGORIES)
05:42.57vhaarrTem: you would, but I do not believe you would have a recent trunk and branch and be willing to commit bugfixes.
05:43.03JJSheetsFound a bugsack bug....
05:43.15hyperChipmunkyea you suck tem
05:43.26Temclearly
05:43.50JJSheetsvhaarr:  your svn handle is rabbit right?
05:43.59vhaarrJJSheets: yes
05:44.17vhaarrJJSheets: ah, bugsack, tell me :P
05:44.29JJSheetsbugsack bug:  Line 36 of bugsackfu.lua.  attempt to perform arithmetic on nil value...
05:44.51JJSheetsvhaarr: easy fix is two if x == nil then x = 0 end lines before line 36.
05:45.09JJSheetswhere x is errcount and dupeCounter.
05:46.10vhaarrthanks
05:46.18JJSheetsyup
05:46.34CIA-1703rabbit * r16326 10BugSack/BugSackFu.lua: BugSack: Bugfix.
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05:47.22hyperChipmunkwtf it doesn't like my commit note
05:47.29JJSheetshahahah
05:47.37vhaarrhyperChipmunk: .AceAddon-2.0:
05:47.49hyperChipmunkit took mf first one
05:47.53hyperChipmunkAceAddon-2.0: (at request of vhaarr)
05:47.53hyperChipmunk- 334: for k,v in CATEGORIES -> for k,v in pairs(CATEGORIES)
05:48.08vhaarryeah the precommit script probably doesn't run on branches
05:48.35vhaarrhyperChipmunk: just put a dot infront of it
05:48.44vhaarrthat makes it bypass the precommit check
05:48.49hyperChipmunkstill won't take it
05:49.27hyperChipmunkFU commit script
05:49.32JJSheetslol
05:49.41hyperChipmunknow editing svn-commit.6.tmp
05:49.44hyperChipmunk#@$!^
05:51.30JJSheetsvhaarr: add:    if dupeCounter == nil then dupeCounter = 0 end     also... still getting the bug...
05:51.38CIA-1703rabbit 07TBC * r16327 10aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.lua: aUF_Banzai: Fix SafeHook problem.
05:51.40vhaarrJJSheets: that's impossible
05:51.52JJSheetsvhaarr:  want a screenshot?
05:51.55vhaarr:P
05:52.08vhaarrJJSheets: It would only happen if FBP-2.0 calls :OnTextUpdate before OnEnable.
05:52.12vhaarrWhich it should *not* do.
05:52.16JJSheetsline 37 attempt to perform yada yada yada...
05:52.29vhaarrThat's a FBP-2.0 bug, then.
05:52.36JJSheetscould just be my mucked up version of GotWood causing it then...
05:52.38CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk * r16328 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua:
05:52.38CIA-17Ace2/AceAddon-2.0: (at the request of vhaarr)
05:52.38CIA-17- 334: for k,v in CATEGORIES -> for k,v in pairs(CATEGORIES)
05:52.44hyperChipmunksuck it, commit script
05:52.47vhaarr:D
05:52.49JJSheetslol
05:52.49vhaarrthanks hc
05:52.51hastehaha
05:53.04hyperChipmunkfriggin 9th try
05:57.10JJSheetsvhaarr:  updated version of GotWood doesn't have the bug... but I still think you should add the check in there.  :p
05:57.18vhaarrI won't :)
05:57.25JJSheetss/have the bug/cause the bug/
05:57.31JJSheetsah well. :)
05:57.41vhaarrAnd table.getn shouldn't return nil, that's silly, it should return 0.
05:57.43vhaarr:(
05:58.01JJSheetsTBC comes out it won't be an issue anymore anyway.
05:58.41JJSheetsyou'll be wanting to change table.getn's to #
05:58.43JJSheets:)
05:59.12vhaarrfor the sake of compatability, alot of libraries and addons on wowace.com SVN are not optimized for lua51 now.
05:59.21vhaarrthat way we don't have to branch
05:59.28vhaarrwhich just causes headaches
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06:13.43vhaarrAnyone know of a good image uploading site thingy? I've always used imageshack, should I just continue using it?
06:13.57CartasYep
06:14.06vhaarr^^
06:14.14Xuerianimageshack, imagesocket, it doesn't really matter.
06:14.15CartasGood choice, old chap! :P
06:15.15Temimagelink.org
06:15.52vhaarrlogin?
06:16.09vhaarrperm upload without login = win
06:20.35mjcanyone use buffalo?
06:20.46kaideni do
06:20.53mjcis it useful?
06:20.58kaidenyup very useful
06:21.19mjchow's it compare to EBB and such
06:21.32kaidenit lets you move the default buff positions around
06:21.39mjcah.
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06:26.25vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2957.new#new
06:26.55vhaarrIt is done.
06:27.10vhaarr~whalecrit vhaarr
06:27.15purlACTION crits vhaarr with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. vhaarr dies
06:27.51mjckergoth: about?
06:29.31vhaarrmjc: Anything I should add to the post, you think?
06:32.40mjcvhaarr: s/overwrited/overwritten/, otherwise reading
06:36.31mjcvhaarr: looks great
06:36.44vhaarrmjc: great, thanks
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06:47.30ckknighthey all
06:47.36JJSheetsheya
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06:52.14Xuerianheya ck.
06:53.55adrineQuick question:
06:54.09adrineI seem to remember a way to cause a parent to receive its' children's events...
06:54.12adrine...but I can't seem to find it
06:54.21Temnone exists
06:54.24adrineIn this case, I have a parent element that I want to hide when OnLeave fires
06:54.34adrineBut, it's firing while the mouse is over child elements.
06:54.39ckknightah.
06:54.55ckknightwell, the OnLeave is called and the children's OnEnter is called right away
06:55.13ckknightso you could make it so that the OnEnter of the child makes the frame show
06:55.27adrineBleh. That feels kinda ugly.
06:55.42ckknightso what is a SecurePieButton?
06:55.45adrineThis is one case where I wish that WoW's UI were more like HTML :)
06:56.13kaidensecurepie? *eats*
06:56.40Xuerianckknight: Sprocket
06:56.46Temckknight, it's basically so that addons like Sproket can exist
06:56.51ckknightokay
06:56.53ckknightshiny.
06:56.59Temindeed
06:57.00ckknightI want to eat some secure pie.
06:57.19mjchaha
06:57.24mjcjust like secure american pie.
06:57.41mjcadrine: what you're thinking of is a DOM or JS function, not relaly HTML
06:57.56kaidenckknight, but only if it's secure cherry pie
06:58.06ckknightI'm more of a fan of secure pumpkin pie
06:58.14ckknightthough I could go for some secure custard pie
06:58.31kaidenperfect time of the year for pumpkin pie
06:59.04ckknightnot just any pumpkin pie
06:59.07ckknightsecure pumpkin pie.
06:59.08CIA-1703sayclub * r16329 10SacredBuff/Locales/koKR.lua:
06:59.08CIA-17SacredBuff:
06:59.08CIA-17* Update koKR
06:59.40adrinehttp://pastebin.com/819538
06:59.41adrineThat worked.
07:01.57Tekkubsarcasm FTW
07:01.58Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=33368#post33368
07:02.36JJSheetslol tekkub
07:02.48kaidenckknight, your perfect pie == a secure pumpking pie .. which is a pumpkin pie with chains of custard around it
07:02.49kaiden;P
07:02.59ckknightdelicious
07:03.03kaidenerm -g in pumpkin.. sheesh
07:08.24oxmanI can found DreamChat on files, but I can't download it :|
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07:18.13sylvanaarim supposing none of you use sw stats
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07:20.39adrineI tried it, but it seems inaccurate, so I ditched it.
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07:25.20Kyahxhrmph, why is that people who only uploaded UI compilations to WoWI already have a stinking key and I dont have mine yet >: (
07:26.12Elkanomorning ck :)
07:26.37sylvanaaradrine: ok
07:34.01Kyahx*sigh*  Time to abandon hope for a key today, and go to sleep
07:34.03Kyahxnight all
07:34.07Cartaslol
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07:36.44XLVIIProbably Taboo to ask, but does anyone use Gatherer?
07:39.03CIA-1703ckknight * r16330 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - added in a check that should make sliders faster/not as laggy.
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07:40.00sylvanaarXLVII: i do
07:40.31sylvanaarXLVII: I also use cosmos, ct raid, sw stats, and a few others
07:40.46ckknightnoes!
07:41.03sylvanaarXLVII: oh auctioneer
07:41.48ckknightquestion: does anyone know of any mod that changes the size of WorldMap POIs such as the Player arrow?
07:42.06sylvanaarckknight: alphamap
07:42.42ckknightk, lemme test
07:43.09Elkano"I'm in your addons, lending your code..." ;)
07:43.30sylvanaar"legacy style player icon"
07:44.18ckknightlegacy style?
07:45.50sylvanaarthats the alphamap option
07:46.44ckknightk
07:49.12Elkanotodays todo: 4h of exercise/lecture; writing a 5min presentation on the 1988's inet virus; make FramesResized and ItemDB TBC compatible...
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07:57.14ckknightalright, I have studied AlphaMap
07:57.26ckknightand figured out what I want to steal
07:57.42Cartas:O
07:57.58Elkanoyou don't steal, you bring code to a higher life form... ;)
07:58.22ckknightgood artists copy, great artists steal.
07:59.50Elkanotime is relative... it was my code in first place... ;)
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08:00.28ckknightyour code?
08:01.38Elkanoadd some " around the last said
08:01.57ckknightI don't get it.
08:02.19Elkano"I didn't steal it, it always was mine"
08:02.39ckknightokay...
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08:07.00Elkanoby now you should know hat I have a somewhat twisted mind full of evil thoughts ;)
08:08.21sylvanaarckknight: i love alphamap - it integrates atlasloot and atlasquest mapnotes gatherernotes - probably want to steal as much as you can
08:08.42ckknightmy plan is to not integrate, and instead make modules and steal data.
08:09.01ckknightlike, there's no need to support MapNotes, as there's Cartographer-Notes
08:09.35ckknightat least for now...
08:10.34CartasMetamap! :P
08:11.30ckknightCartas, death to Metamap!
08:11.40CartasYes, by making an Ace version!
08:12.22ckknightuse Cartographer.
08:12.25ckknightthat's what I'm doing.
08:12.30Cartas!! :O
08:12.36CartasYou're a God, old chap! <3
08:14.02ckknightgod should be lowercase in that context.
08:14.11CartasNo way!
08:14.16CartasYou deserve upper-case!
08:15.03ckknightGod is a proper noun, typically used in the Judeo-Christian context, whereas god is an improper noun which is basically the synonym for diety
08:15.21sylvanaarckknight: you should support existing standards for datasharing
08:15.33ckknightyou and your standards...
08:15.51ckknightwhat do you mean by datasharing?
08:15.53ckknightComm?
08:16.26sylvanaarckknight: i know you like to do things your own way - mapnotes are a dataformat will you support that format?
08:16.41ckknightsylvanaar, I plan to be able to import from MapNotes and such.
08:16.59ckknightif that counts.
08:17.28sylvanaarit does - send and recieve in that format
08:17.46sylvanaaras an option
08:17.48ckknightsend and receive, so you do mean Comm?
08:18.01sylvanaarmapnotes are shared yeah
08:18.32sylvanaarthats 1/2 the point of them
08:18.52sylvanaari think notesuneed also
08:18.59ckknightbut it's so inefficient :-(
08:19.11ckknightcompared to my way of comm
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08:19.30AKXSupport them all anyway :)
08:20.12AKXKirkburn, /greet
08:20.25KirkburnMoo
08:20.49KirkburnWait, Zeren?
08:20.53AKXGot it right
08:20.58Kirkburn:D
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08:22.27ckknight_gah.
08:22.31ckknight_<ckknight> but the point of Cartographer is efficiency...
08:22.44sylvanaar^.^ the mapnotes sharing is a perfect example of what interview was meant to do.
08:23.04sylvanaari have given that up
08:23.21ckknightgiven what up?
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08:23.51sylvanaarinterview - mod authors barely want to collaborate on anything
08:24.29ckknightk
08:25.07sylvanaarnot invented here
08:25.21InsideYup, NIH, chiefs & indians syndrome, etcetc.
08:26.08ckknightI'm a chief.
08:26.13ckknightdamn Indians.
08:26.15InsideMe and you both, budy.
08:26.16Insidebuddy
08:26.17sylvanaaryeah - its kinda like late 90's development
08:26.48InsideLate 90s? What are you smoking sylvanaar, people have been wanting to get their own, and their own ideas only, out there for ten thousand years.
08:27.00sylvanaarthe trend in modern software architecture is heavy use of standards
08:27.05ckknightwell, let's look at an example: Microsoft
08:27.07ckknightthey don't need standards
08:27.14ckknightand standards hurt them
08:27.18ckknightbut it doesn't really matter
08:27.21ckknightas they have 90% of the market
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08:27.28ckknightso they just don't have to care.
08:27.30sylvanaarckknight: you are wrong - they do support standards
08:27.45ckknighthaphazardly.
08:28.44evlhey, stop chatting start codinfg.
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08:28.52sylvanaarckknight: xml is a prime example of ms's support for standards
08:29.01Mikkhaha
08:29.10Mikkno more than ascii is :-P
08:29.14ckknighthey Mikk
08:29.18Mikkhey =)
08:29.37sylvanaarMikk: explain why you think that
08:29.42ckknightI'm talking about how MS doesn't need to support standards cause they're so big anyway, whatever they say is so becomes a de facto standard
08:29.56MikkBecause XML in and of itself means nothing for interoperability
08:30.08InsideXML is just a way to describe data c_c
08:30.30MikkIf I wrap my word processor document inside XML tags, that doesn't mean that suddenly all word processors using XML can read it
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08:30.48MikkSo, interop wise, XML means about as much as ASCII does
08:30.55sylvanaarMikk: they also support the domain specific xml applications
08:31.01yacoob<xml> it's nifty </>
08:31.03evl"Oh my god, why do you have that whip!?"
08:31.04evl"For WHIPPING!"
08:31.09ckknightlol, evl
08:31.15MikkAhhh but NOW we're talking. Domain specific XML applications are standards.
08:31.23ckknightPenny Arcade ftw
08:31.23evlXML is bullshit tbh :P
08:31.26MikkThat promote interoperability
08:31.28evlckknight: yeah
08:31.36abbat_wi'm totally agree with evl ;)
08:31.38ckknightIf XML isn't working properly, just use more.
08:31.40SP|Sorrenis there any reason why bugsack moves to a random location around my minimap every time i reloadui?
08:31.46ckknightjust like violence ;-)
08:31.49evlckknight: Atleast someone wasn't afriad to call a fucking rubbish game like NWN2 a fucking rubbish game :)
08:31.57ckknightSP|Sorren, because you touch yourself at night.
08:32.04abbat_wbtw, are someone see NWN2?
08:32.06InsideSP|Sorren: Because.... fuck.
08:32.12SP|Sorrenif that was true, i'd expect it to fly off the screen or something
08:32.13yacoobSP|Sorren, it's eager for action.
08:32.15SP|Sorrenor become unreachable
08:32.16evlabbat_w: Don't look at it, it's utter shit
08:32.36ckknightSP|Sorren, nah, no matter how hard you jack off, it's still stuck on the minimap
08:32.52abbat_wergh... i play in nwn1, and like it ;) today start downloading 6gb nwn2 release ;)
08:32.57sylvanaarMikma: yeah they do, all the *ML's, things like SOAP WSDL, even UPnP is an example
08:32.57SP|Sorreni see, so its just trying to escape, but can't, and ends up somewhere new each time.
08:33.05evlabbat_w: You're gonna be so damn dissapointed :)
08:33.11abbat_w:)
08:33.28evlabbat_w: First of all you'll need to strip off 60% of the eye-candy just to get stable 30 FPS on a HIGH-end system. Then there's the graphics
08:33.33evlIt looks like super nintendo
08:33.36evlSeriously.
08:33.47abbat_wOh :(
08:33.51evlZoom in on the terrain and the pixels are big enough to cover half the screen
08:34.39abbat_wgfx it's all what i want to see in nwn2 ;(
08:34.58evlThey've reused all the voice overs
08:34.59evland combat sounds
08:35.04evlEven the music is reused.
08:36.56sylvanaarevl: why do people say xml is bullshit? what is not bullshit
08:37.14abbat_wno, nu bullshit
08:37.20abbat_wbut ppl put xml everywhere
08:37.35evlXML is a weak .com excuse for creating an interoperable object<->object format based on primtives
08:37.35abbat_weven in places where xml don't be needed actually
08:37.36evlwould be so easy
08:37.45ckknightI found XML in my cereal yesterday, even.
08:37.45evlstring, int, float, array, assoc, done.
08:38.43sylvanaarevl: is that what you think xml is?
08:39.04evla way of complicating that by calling stuff nodes
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08:39.50sylvanaarevl: you dont understand what it is then
08:40.05evloh shit, i don't. sorry i'll go hide over here.
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08:41.51sylvanaarevl: nah, you were saying its 'bullshit' so i was just trying to understand your reasoning
08:42.44evlit's overused, way to complex for it's original task and a way for smart people to masturbate over making more and more specifications to solve a problem that was already solved with CSV
08:43.08sylvanaardo you know that the output of most language parsers is a tree
08:43.49Mikkdo you know that the output of most PROGRAMS are lists? =)
08:43.55evlMy point exactly
08:44.31MikkI'm not calling XML evil. The basic ideas on structuring information are sound.
08:44.45MikkBut it's bloaty, and doesn't necessarily solve things that people think it solves.
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08:45.21sylvanaarhere is the point of xml, when you parse a language you get an intermediate representation
08:45.43sylvanaarthis is what is what the back end of a compiler workes with
08:45.52Mikkyep
08:46.08sylvanaarnow think of all programs as compilers
08:46.12evlwho cares about the inner workings about a compiler when XML was designed to solve the problem with data exchange across programs and systems?
08:46.12Mikkno =)
08:46.20evls/about/of
08:46.47sylvanaaryou can leave out the lexer/parser if you get xml input
08:46.57Mikki don't see how my word processor or spreadsheet or email is in any way related to a compiler
08:47.01Mikkand i've been coding for 22 years =P
08:47.23Mikktrue that about the lexer/parser
08:47.30Mikkbut we've had tools to create those rapidly for ages
08:47.35sylvanaari asked you to think of all programs as compilers while i explained that bit
08:47.45Mikkand XML libraries are something on the order of 5 times the size
08:47.46Mikkokay, shoot =)
08:48.43sylvanaarallright if all these programs have the same intermediate representations, you can use and back end to compile any language
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08:49.28evlBut to use XML you first need the XML file
08:49.39evlthen a schema that's so complex machines are barely possible to parse that
08:50.03evlHave you ever seen e.g the XML output from an Oracle query? Or even worse a SOAP query
08:50.11sylvanaarevl: yes
08:50.13Mikknot that lex/yacc/bison syntax is much to cheer about though  </devil's advocate>
08:50.35sylvanaarevl: i have written soap based enterprise applications
08:50.59evlUgh, this discussion is pointles. It's like comparing brands of milk
08:51.04evlGoing to get coffee now, enjoy.
08:51.06MikkCookies!
08:51.09Mikk> milk
08:51.26MikkI also declare that apples > oranges.
08:51.43sylvanaarwell, ok - i'll give you an example of something that happened at work.
08:52.08XLVIIDoes anyone have Gatherer, that they use for Herbalism? (300 only preffered)
08:52.32MikkGathere is not Ace. Go ask in WoWI-Lounge :-)
08:53.04sylvanaardeveloper wants to make a system to monitor all the hardware in a retailers store - the cash registers and the backend servers
08:53.27MikkSNMP!
08:53.56sylvanaarthere are 20 other software packages running in that same store that he has to interface with
08:53.58MikkThough SNMP uses ASN.1 BER, so that's a whole different can of worms =P
08:54.02ckknightMikk, have you used Cartographer yet?
08:54.05MikkNo
08:54.10MikkI've been busy levelling my dr00d =))
08:54.15ckknightit's shiny
08:54.16sylvanaaryeah - you know what - he chose not to use SNMP
08:54.23sylvanaarand wrote his own protocol
08:54.43andremarthat sounds clever..
08:54.52sylvanaaryeah - real smart
08:55.52andremarits like saying "I'm gonna be sending mail between my two servers, I think I'll not use SMTP"
08:56.03sylvanaarright
08:56.20nevcairieloooh they added a new bank bag slot in bc, heh :)
08:56.34sylvanaarSMTP is too wordy, not efficient enough - im makin my own
08:56.48sylvanaara compressed binary format
08:56.52[Ammo]morning
08:56.59nevcairielmornin ammo
08:57.12[Ammo]gothik 88% last night :)
08:57.20[Ammo]we finally got him into the room with at least a few people standing :)
08:57.31nevcairielyou sound like us
08:57.46nevcairielwe had one good try where he came down yesterday
08:57.57sylvanaarmy guild fell apart this week
08:58.03[Ammo]we had him into the room, a few times, but that was mostly with 1 side dead
08:58.15[Ammo]this time we had him in the room with people alive on both sides
08:58.20[Ammo]so definate improvement :)
08:58.26nevcairielyeah i didnt count those :)
08:59.26sylvanaarMikk: lol
08:59.27[Ammo]first we oneshotted thaddius (the rest was all dead)
08:59.47[Ammo]then we went on to wipe the whole night on the harvester
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09:02.13sylvanaarMikk: lol at ASN.1 and MIB's
09:02.23Mikkyeah they're just as fun as XSDs =)
09:02.25Tekkubmikk!
09:02.36nevcairielrofl, a high elf "Haris Pilton" .. gogo blizz :D
09:02.41sylvanaaryeah without all the nice tools
09:02.46TekkubI need your help putting the wiki script onto the server as post-commit
09:03.00MikkAck
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09:03.34MikkI can help you with that, but not right now. I've got to run off to a bus in 6 minutes.
09:03.42TekkubI've got it installed on sandbox and executing on commits...
09:03.44Tekkubbut...
09:03.47Tekkub/usr/local/bin/curl --max-time 60 --silent --show-error --cookie-jar cookiejar --cookie cookiejar --header 'Expect:'  'http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=TOC_Data/Wikitest&action=edit'
09:03.48TekkubERROR: wowwiki wouldn't give me its wpEditToken!
09:04.06Tekkubwowwiki is mean!
09:04.27Mikkhaha
09:04.47[Ammo]http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/7345  (GTA: Mario)
09:04.52MikkLike I said.. I can help you with that later today
09:04.55MikkIn like ~5 hours
09:05.07MikkBut for now I need to get changed, brush my teeth, and be off =)
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09:05.30Tekkubin 5 hours I'll be asleep!
09:06.06Elkanohard part has started... checkout addons for TBC ;)
09:06.44TekkubMikkAFK, talk to clad about getting in the server when you can, it's currently installed as a post-commit in sandbox
09:07.13TekkubElkano,
09:07.16Tekkubfuck you
09:07.24Elkanohmm?
09:07.30Tekkubyou heard me
09:07.32Tekkubright in the ear
09:07.33Elkanono key yet for you? :(
09:07.35InsideTekkub is just bitter he hasn't gotten a key :>
09:07.37Tekkubno
09:07.45Tekkub*keys
09:07.51Tekkuboh wait I didn't say that
09:07.52Tekkub:)
09:08.03Inside:P
09:08.18Tekkub<PROTECTED>
09:08.53InsideHeh
09:08.55InsideLook http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article836.asp
09:08.57InsideLook at the bottom :)
09:09.06InsideThe guy is like "Well, I got 80 hour a week days so I can't keep writing these articles"
09:09.10Insidethen look at what his signature is :p
09:09.24Tekkubhuh?
09:10.00nevcairiellol
09:10.08Snagorofl
09:10.36TekkubI must be missing some joke
09:10.56nevcairielduke nukem forever
09:11.07InsideGuy wrote the article in '99 saying he's busy on his current project and will be back in a year to finish the articles. His current project? Duke Nukem Forever.
09:11.16InsideConsidering he never wrote an article after that :p
09:11.17Elkanois Prat TBC ready?
09:11.25Tekkubsee that's where I miss the joke
09:11.45Tekkubdid that game never come out or something?
09:11.48InsideDuke Nukem Forever: In development for 10 years now.
09:11.58InsideWith the release date being pushed back _still_ :P
09:11.59Tekkubsee how would I know that
09:12.03Tekkubdo I look like a gamer
09:12.06InsideDN:F is the biggest joke on the internet D=
09:12.16TekkubI pend 60 hours a week in WoW... not playing
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09:12.28InsideAs someone who has not play FFXI, I know how you feel.
09:12.32Insidenot played*
09:12.51Tekkuboh I didn't play FFXI for about 9 months
09:13.06TekkubI left with a sexy ass 42WHM 42BLM galka
09:13.13Insideoh gawd ;_; Galka BLM?
09:13.30InsideI didn't play on and off for two years, finally got one character to 60RDM and sold my accunt.
09:13.31Tekkubon my last night I got out my sexxy RSE and ran to Kuftal Tunnel to die
09:14.09Tekkubone of the few people in my guild ran with me too, ran into him at Rabao and he got all emotional
09:14.28Tekkubhe ended up dying 3 times because of an NM in Kuftal
09:14.29Tekkub:)
09:14.32sylvanaarthat was the worst game ever - i played it for a week and thew it in the garbage- litereally
09:14.46InsideFFXI is ten times the hardcore that WoW ever will be.
09:14.50TekkubI liked FFXI... well I liked my galka's ass
09:14.59Tekkubthe game mechanics just blow
09:15.03Tekkubthe UI is shit
09:15.06InsideVerily.
09:15.20sylvanaarFFXI - if you like to level down, go ahead
09:15.21Tekkubbut the story is nice, if you ever get to do it
09:15.23TekkubI didn't
09:15.48Tekkubfucking 42^2 and I had touched about 3% of the storyline, that's not right
09:15.55sylvanaarafter a few of those i said eff this PoS
09:16.20Tekkubyou never got out of Ronfaure did you?
09:16.28InsideXD
09:16.36InsideThe game peaks around level 3 at being easy.
09:16.49TekkubI remember 18 man raids on Ghelsba
09:16.51InsideAfter that it's like putting together a raid group to go kill monsters for XP.. /wrists.
09:16.52Tekkubthat rocked
09:17.08Tekkubit was like 10 WARs, a few RDM and one taru WHM
09:17.12sylvanaari wasnt wasting my time, i could tell it was total crap from the outset
09:17.16InsideOnly thing I remmember from those is getting 3xp a kill and running back from san doria constantly.
09:17.26sylvanaarplus i was RDM
09:17.32sylvanaarwhich made it worse
09:17.36InsideUm
09:17.42InsideRDM is one of the best early level classes c_c;
09:17.56Tekkubgalka WHM is the best
09:18.04Tekkubyou can take aggro :)
09:18.16Tekkubyou can benedict and not die of it
09:18.36sylvanaarwhat does early level mean to you
09:18.41Laricfor the ace that is working in tbc... is that the trunk version or one in branches?
09:19.04Tekkubbranches
09:19.13Tekkubthink it's only hooks that's effected
09:19.24Tekkubbut don't ask me, me no key yet
09:19.47Tekkub<PROTECTED>
09:19.51Elkanockknight, do I have to checkout compost to make FuBar work on TBC?
09:19.51sylvanaari think i got mine to 12-15 and quit - the other classes were better
09:21.19ElkanoLaric, TBC-Ace2 is in branch
09:21.26Laricty
09:21.39LaricElkano is your buffbar working in tbc?
09:23.32Elkanothere seems to be a working version around and I'll try to push mine to a working branch now that I got a key :)
09:23.44Lariccheers
09:24.38SnagoWhat does the chat window say when you craft something? is it "You create item: Foo" or "You receive item: Foo" or something else?
09:24.42Frittiis it possible to create new characters on the test realms?
09:24.59Mikmayoooooo
09:25.06Snagoservers are down so i can't test myself :\
09:25.15Mikmanevcairiel: no, i'm not here :)
09:25.57Laricis there a list somewhere on working addons?
09:26.17Elkano-> Topic
09:26.20Mikmayes
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09:27.12nevcairielMikma: i dont think we can do shapeshifting with bartender, unless we recreate the actionbars
09:27.33Mikma! SIGNATURES NEEDED !
09:27.39Mikmajoin BC and sign my chart!
09:27.50Mikmanevcairiel: well let's hope we can :P
09:27.52nevcairieli already saw one in the guild CastSpell yesterday
09:28.16Mikmawell i got CastSpell guildname
09:28.19nevcairielKirkburn is in it
09:28.53Mikmais he? heh
09:29.09nevcairiel./who CastSpell :P
09:29.44Frittiwhy is Compost deprectated btw? new lua features made it unnecessary?
09:29.48Mikmaneat he made the guild :D
09:30.27Frittideprecated*
09:30.44sylvanaari meant to link this during our xml discussion http://sylvanaar.dontexist.com/xml-options/ace-options.html
09:30.57nevcairielincremental garbage collection made it kinda obsolute
09:31.06nevcairielbut you should still use tables wisely :)
09:31.17Frittinevcairiel: ok
09:31.18Frittithanks
09:31.21Mikmanevcairiel: so you really think the shapeshift ain't doable anymore
09:31.36nevcairielyea
09:31.46Mikmawhy's that? :D
09:31.46nevcairielat least not in combat
09:32.04Mikmaerr
09:32.14sylvanaari was going ask about compost also
09:32.16nevcairielbecause the actionbars are secured, and when we try to change them, we taint them and make them insecure
09:32.29Mikmanevcairiel: and?
09:32.42nevcairieland no shifting in combat anymore
09:33.10Mikmaso calling the secure functions is out of question
09:33.17Mikmaot hooking them
09:33.31nevcairielyeah, we need a fresh set of buttons
09:33.32Mikmaor*
09:33.36nevcairieland even with those its a PITA :D
09:33.50Mikmagod damn
09:33.58Mikmascrew blizzard for making things like that
09:34.11Mikmabitch and whine at their forums :P
09:34.21Frittisylvanaar: what is that XML thingy?
09:34.33Frittidescription of aceconsole in XML or something?
09:34.34Mikmanevcairiel: so in other words, BB Bartender BC
09:34.51sylvanaaran xml schema for an ace options table i wwas going to use as an exmaple
09:35.14Mikmanevcairiel: lets do an addon called Actionbinder :D
09:35.57Elkanobtw: can so confirm that lern2spell is obsolete with TBC?
09:36.01sylvanaarnevcairiel: are you talking about the standard action bars - you can change stances in combat
09:36.15Mikmasylvanaar: how?
09:36.33sylvanaarunless its not in the current beta yet
09:36.42nevcairielsure you can
09:36.49nevcairielbut you cannot change the bars of Bartender
09:37.00Mikmanevcairiel: i think we need to return to the original version of Bartender2 stanceswap
09:37.11Mikmanevcairiel: and use the BonusActionButton1-12
09:37.40sylvanaaryou can define the actions of them using the slashcommands
09:37.54sylvanaarso there must be a way
09:38.02Laricis fubar working?
09:38.04nevcairielthere isnt, believe me
09:38.19Mikmanevcairiel: yohoo did you hear what i said? :)
09:38.20nevcairielMikma: frame hiding/showing not possible in combat
09:38.25sylvanaaryou can set up a button to behave differently depending on which form you are in
09:38.36Mikmanevcairiel: who talked about frame hiding/showing?
09:38.45Mikmanevcairiel: i'm sure BUTTON hiding/showing is allowed
09:38.53nevcairielthats what the old thing was about
09:39.10Mikmawell in this case let's do it with BonusActionButton
09:39.36Mikmalet's just setpoint them over the Actionbutton's and show/hide them with stance
09:40.07Mikmai'll give it a go now
09:40.10sylvanaar/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
09:40.10sylvanaar/cancelaura [stance:2] Aquatic Form; [stance:3] Cat Form; [stance:4] Travel Form; [stance:5] Moonkin Form
09:40.19sylvanaarall on one button
09:40.21nevcairielyou cant show/hide them in an insecure addon
09:40.41Mikmathe textures?
09:41.04nevcairielnot the textures, the bar
09:41.33Mikma*RAWR* i'm talking about BUTTONS
09:41.35Mikmanot bars
09:41.57nevcairielbuttons, bars, all the same
09:41.58Mikmathe original buttons to show stancebuttons are called BonusActionButtons1-12
09:42.02Mikma-s
09:42.11Mikmai'm sure you can hide/show them in combat
09:42.36sylvanaaryo
09:42.46sylvanaaryou dont need to show/hide them
09:42.57sylvanaaryou give them an action based on conditions
09:43.23Mikmahmm
09:44.22sylvanaaramirite?
09:44.47nevcairieltry drag-dropping spells onto an condition based bar
09:45.09nevcairielits not something you would call a default actionbar anymore
09:45.12sylvanaarthey are macros
09:45.45sylvanaarso, you can generate the macro when you drop the spell on the bar - until you find another way
09:45.47phybermorning.
09:46.05nevcairielsimple way, use secure templates
09:46.09nevcairielthats what they are for
09:46.42sylvanaaryeah - it says that you can do those things from secure templates - i thought you were saying you cant
09:47.10nevcairielnoo, with secure templates you can
09:47.20nevcairielbut if you want to reuse the original actionbar and its buttons, you cannot
09:47.26andremarcan addon-developers do anything "secure"?
09:47.55nevcairielonly blizzard addons get "secure"
09:47.56Frittithey shouldn't be able to
09:47.58Frittithat's the whole point
09:48.55Mikmanevcairiel: you're right :O can't hide BonusActionButtons when in combat
09:50.10andremarright
09:50.11nevcairieli told you so
09:50.20Mikmalol
09:50.24Mikmabut you CAN SetAlpha :D
09:51.10sylvanaaroh, you are saying that you want to be able to use non-secure versions of blizzards bars
09:51.35FrittiMikma: that doesn't help if the other button is beneath it
09:51.58MikmaFritti: well then i have to test SetFrameLevel too :P
09:52.19nevcairielthats a sucky, hacky attempt
09:52.48Mikmawell got any better ideas on how to do it with normal blizzardbars without creating 120 new buttons?
09:53.09sylvanaardont override the handlers
09:54.33sylvanaarmeh - i dont really get what you want - you want to be able to show/hide buttons in combat? what are they used for
09:55.08Mikmasylvanaar: Bartender uses the normal buttons provided by blizzard. now we have a problem with shapeshifters since the code has been changed
09:55.25sylvanaaryou can change stances
09:55.55Mikmayes but i can't use the stancebuttons anymore
09:56.19sylvanaaryou cant click them you mean?
09:56.20Mikmalike nevcairiel said, can't move/hide them if character is in combat
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09:57.07sylvanaarok
09:57.31Mikmaso, this means i have no idea on how to fix Bartender
09:57.39sylvanaarso these dont work?  /changeactionbar <num> and /swapactionbar <num1> <num2>
09:58.08Mikmasylvanaar: Bartender creates different frames where it docks the buttons :P
09:58.21Mikmathat's the problem now since we can't move the buttons in combat
09:58.22chuckgIs autobar going to go bye bye with TBC?
09:58.24chuckgJust thought about that.
09:58.41chuckgI guess it'll have to.
09:58.47sylvanaarcan you not override the handleres in your frames?
10:00.00Tem|SleepMikma, you can move buttons in combat
10:00.02Tem|Sleep2 ways
10:00.07Tem|Sleepuser drag
10:00.22Tem|SleepSecureAnchorButton
10:01.16Mikmainteresting
10:01.55Tem|Sleepneither of which will probably do what you want it to
10:01.57nevcairiel(which again ends up in some new frames :D)
10:02.12Tem|Sleepbut I'm far too sleepy to care
10:02.39sylvanaarMikma: i think that maybe some of what you need isnt in the current beta but is planned
10:03.02[Ammo]man, I hate waiting for an exam
10:03.06[Ammo]it's the worst time
10:04.21nevcairiellol those gryphon bombing missons, sooo fun
10:05.01odtthe maintenance in europe was a success again.... not
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10:06.19Snagois there a way to check if the bank is closed?
10:06.37Laricwich fubar is working in tbc?
10:06.47[Ammo]standard fubar
10:06.51[Ammo]with Ace2 TBC Branch
10:06.52Mikmai don't like the idea that blizzard is forcing people to use their ui
10:07.18nevcairielthey dont, they force you to use secure templates
10:07.43Mikmawell does it do the thing we want it to do
10:07.51Snagotried with GetContainerNumSlots(-1) but it seems to work when the bank is closed too :S
10:08.01[Ammo]Mikma: I have had no problems with bartender in tbc
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10:08.03[Ammo]so I am fine :)
10:08.15nevcairielyou dont need shapeshifts
10:08.19Mikma[Ammo]: you are not shapeshifter
10:08.33[Ammo]ah ok
10:08.38[Ammo]my bad :)
10:09.04Mikmathe basics of Bartender works just fine in TBC but all the shapeshift/stance-crap is broken
10:10.09[Ammo]should be a workaround for it
10:10.39sylvanaari thought this was all worked on on the ui/macros thread
10:10.51nevcairieli couldnt find any workaround to allow bar pageswaping
10:11.09sylvanaarhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=35886005&sid=1
10:11.29Mikmaunless there is some "SecureChangeBar(1)"
10:11.53CIA-1703ammo * r16331 10BigWigs/Core.lua:
10:11.53CIA-17BigWigs: Now fires BigWigs_ModuleToggle event when a module is toggled.
10:11.53CIA-17Passes module and state argument. Mainly plumbing for BigWigs_EncounterMonitor
10:12.53sylvanaaryou dont change bars
10:13.05sylvanaarthe meaning of the current bar changes
10:13.11sylvanaarget it?
10:13.41Mikmasylvanaar: for shapeshifters? still looks like it pulls up the BonusActionBarFrame when shifting...
10:15.53CIA-1703mikma 07Bartender3 * r16332 10Bartender3/Bartender3.lua: Bartender3: Barchanging disabled for now on
10:17.16Tem|Sleepyes, the default UI does change bars
10:17.57Tem|Sleepbut addons can't
10:18.17Tem|Sleepso you make the current bar adapt to the current state
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10:19.18sylvanaarMikma: are you reanchoring the fram?
10:20.25Mikmasylvanaar: yes
10:20.51Tem|Sleepugh, I'm so not sitting around for this
10:20.52sylvanaarMikma: you need to anchor it to a Protected Frame
10:21.01Tem|Sleep.........
10:21.11Tem|Sleepthe blind leading the blind is a truly pathetic thing to watch
10:21.15Mikmasylvanaar: right, like i have an idea on how to do that then
10:21.39sylvanaarTem|Sleep: insightful
10:22.01Tem|SleepMikma, I suggest reading Iriel's notes again
10:22.08Tem|Sleep(and again and again)
10:22.34Tem|Sleeponce you understand the state code, everything else just falls into place
10:22.43MikmaTem|Sleep: i have a better idea, i'll let people who know how it works do it and just play the game :)
10:22.54[Ammo]haha
10:24.14Mikmagood thing that i don't need the stancedance :)
10:24.26Mikmai can just continue on using the basic version of Bartender
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10:28.09sylvanaari just noticed this exact discussion was going on in wowi too
10:28.26Mikmak, i'm off to school again
10:30.21Lariconebag working?
10:30.41nevcairielonebag works
10:30.44nevcairielonebank is broken
10:31.06Funkeh`nevcairiel: works for me
10:31.11nevcairielin bc?
10:31.17Funkeh`ah, no :)
10:32.50Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=TOC_Data/Wikitest&rcid=9937
10:32.55TekkubFUCK ME DADDY!
10:32.59TekkubFUCK ME HARD!
10:33.40MoonWolfinstalling tbc, fuck yeah!
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10:34.00MoonWolfand tekkub, are you okay
10:34.01MoonWolf?
10:34.15nevcairiellol
10:34.19TekkubI got the wiki script running post-commit on sandbox
10:34.33MoonWolfawesome.
10:34.41Tekkubtime to move it over to the main repo
10:34.52MoonWolf(everything breaks)
10:34.59Tekkub^^^^
10:35.00nevcairiellike always
10:35.01nevcairiel:)
10:35.32MoonWolfLets see if I can polish up mendy for tbc
10:35.38MoonWolfthen go work with that fancy pt2
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10:40.28nevcairiellater, university time
10:40.42Funkeh`anyone on EU here?
10:42.24MoonWolfWould be anyway, if my server was not on extended downtime AGAIN!
10:43.18Funkeh`moonwolf: no biggie, the servers that are online are stuck on loading screen it seems
10:43.32MoonWolflol
10:43.40Funkeh`typical ;_;
10:44.21ElkanoEU4tw ;)
10:44.24Tekkubokey, time to give this bitch a whirl
10:44.37Tekkub*saves post-commit
10:44.39Greywindi really have a ton of features I want to add to Shifter, but I don't have the heart to work on em atm :(
10:45.49Greywindanybody else notice that Mountme isnt deshifting? I have it turned on and it was working a week ago i think
10:47.46CIA-1703tekkub * r16333 10Cockpit/Cockpit.toc: Cockpit - TOC updates to test wiki post-commit, and prep for InBed
10:48.17Tekkuboh yes
10:48.19TekkubYES!
10:48.36sbuhmm [Ammo]
10:48.40sbuBigWigs_EncounterMonitor? :)
10:48.43Funkeh`Tekkub: go cleanup now =)
10:49.10[Liquidor]Hello everyone and good day :)
10:49.18sylvanaarany of the current bunch on use sw stats (valid answers yes, nil)
10:49.24CIA-1703tekkub * r16334 10Cockpit/ (Cockpit.toc Libs/): Cockpit - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
10:49.40[Liquidor]sylvanaar: dunno
10:50.00Tekkubyup, it works
10:50.05[Liquidor]Sorry just had to since noone greeded back on me
10:50.06Tekkub(sweets)
10:50.32sylvanaar[Liquidor]: error on line 2: nil or yes expected got 'dunno'
10:50.33yacoobdoh!nut?
10:50.34Tekkubnote to everyone: it will only update one TOC file per commit, so stick with one addon per commit
10:50.38[Liquidor]Tekkub: sup? What's working since you've sayd "Yes" the last 4 or 5 times?
10:50.42Tekkuband only from trunk
10:50.52Funkeh`yacoob: =))
10:50.55Tekkubthe wiki TOC script
10:51.00Tekkubpost-commit
10:51.01MoonWolfalright
10:51.08MoonWolfonly 300 mb of downloading to go before i can play
10:51.41[Liquidor]sylvanaar: error on line 1: attempt to be funny at a nil value (laugh expeced got nil)
10:51.53Miles|zzzis there a way to manually generate a .zip in wowace/files for a branch?
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10:52.08sylvanaar[Liquidor]: stack overflow
10:52.38Laricisnt there a clique workign in tbc? I def remember seeing something like that
10:52.48[Liquidor]sylvanaar: /del ..\Interface\Addons\Humor\
10:52.51Miles|zzzlook at wowinterface
10:54.15Laricty
10:54.30sylvanaar[Liquidor]: ~ /rd * /s
10:54.38[Liquidor]Sorry I don't get that one
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10:55.01Mi|esD:\Documents and Settings\Chi-Ho>man rd
10:55.01Mi|esNo manual entry for rd
10:56.50sylvanaarwell - this has been a fun morning
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10:58.29LaricElkano so what ebb should I use... saw you joined the guild :P
10:59.42[Liquidor]F07D0079007D000002010102010100000100 14 00 20 F1 7E 1C 52657669766520557300000000000000002D
10:59.57CIA-1703elkano 07ebb1_TBC * r16335 10ElkBuffBar/:
10:59.57CIA-17ElkBuffBar
10:59.57CIA-17- creating branch folder for ebb1 TBC version
11:01.34MoonWolfLaric, that one!
11:02.57CIA-1703elkano 07ebb1_TBC * r16336 10ElkBuffBar/ (5 files):
11:02.57CIA-17ElkBuffBar
11:02.57CIA-17- importing ebb1 TBC version
11:03.22CIA-1703elkano 07ebb1_TBC * r16337 10ElkBuffBar/ (5 files): Removed file/folder
11:04.10CIA-1703elkano 07ebb1_TBC * r16338 10ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar/ (6 files):
11:04.10CIA-17ElkBuffBar
11:04.10CIA-17- importing ebb1 TBC version
11:04.22odttoo hot in here
11:04.43Elkanothis one :) branches/ElkBuffBar/ebb1_TBC/ElkBuffBar/
11:04.44Laric:P
11:07.49sylvanaarhttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016082/FrameXML/ActionButton.lua
11:10.53Frittiby the way, who is the unnamed hero behind wdn.wowi ? (s)he's in need of some cookies.
11:12.54Grey|awayaye, it has helped me so much
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11:14.33Tekkubwdn sucks
11:14.43Tekkubit needs to be named thebigdiff
11:15.20Tekkubwdn sounds like a walmart divition
11:15.45Tekkub"It's the walmart dairy network!"
11:15.48MoonWolflol
11:15.56MoonWolfthebigdiff should be the sub title
11:17.01MoonWolfFritti, its beladona, http://beladona.wowinterface.com/
11:19.23[Liquidor]Xuerian|Sleep: wake up !
11:19.38Frittilol @ Tekkub
11:19.46[Liquidor]ye lol @ Tekkub
11:27.06[Liquidor]HLEP
11:27.39[Liquidor]Yesterday (or this morning) I converted from xml to lua regarding frames but I can't make it work as intended :-/ Anyone up for it?
11:31.36[Liquidor]http://pastey.net/2218 - How come I don't see anything ingame?
11:36.52phyberTekkub: All dairy, all the time?
11:37.06Tekkub:P
11:37.27[Liquidor]Aww you guys help me out there :(
11:38.30CIA-1703tekkub * r16339 10ProximityLib/ProximityLib.toc: ProximityLib - TOC updates
11:40.04phyber[Liquidor]: frame:Show() ?
11:40.30[Liquidor]ye but
11:40.51sylvanaari got sidetracked - what ace mod puts bars on a tablet?
11:40.54[Liquidor]nothing
11:41.28sylvanaarxraidstatus maybe
11:41.29CIA-1703tekkub * r16340 10Rawr/Rawr.toc: Rawr! - TOC Updates
11:43.02phyberwith the current non-tbc AceHook, if I do a SecureHook() it just does the same thing as Hook(), right?
11:43.23phyberso I can make Fizzle use SecureHook() to be prepared for TBC, but it will still work with the current live version
11:43.40phyber(too lazy to maintain separate versions)
11:49.10XLVIIHow do I get my scrolling combat text (over npc and pc characters) back? I've tried enabling the scrolling combat text in the interface options menu, but it didn't work.
11:50.39CIA-1703phyber * r16341 10IDCard/ (IDCard.lua IDCard.toc):
11:50.39CIA-17IDCard:
11:50.39CIA-17- More updates to make it compatible with TBC. Should still work with Non-TBC client too.
11:51.41Mi|esphyber: SecureHook() is 1.12 compatible afaik
11:51.58phyberok :)
11:52.14phybermakes it easier, don't have to check if the version is 2.*, etc :)
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11:52.42Mi|esheh. you can even update the toc to 20000, 1.12 will load it just fine
11:52.49CIA-1703tristan * r16342 10T_Tracking/ (. Core.lua Localization.lua T_Tracking.toc):
11:52.49CIA-17T_Tracking: initial commit
11:52.49CIA-17- A text version of the tracking minimap button
11:53.03Snago[Liquidor] i don't know, but try assigning frame to a non-local variable..
11:54.08[Liquidor]uhm could be
11:54.20CIA-1703phyber * r16343 10Fizzle/ (Core.lua Fizzle.toc):
11:54.20CIA-17Fizzle:
11:54.20CIA-17- Updated TOC to 20000
11:54.20CIA-17- Using SecureHook instead of Hook.
11:57.12CIA-1703phyber * r16344 10IDCard/IDCard.lua:
11:57.12CIA-17IDCard:
11:57.12CIA-17- Don't check for version 2.0 in :OnEnable, just use :SecureHook() right away.
11:57.53phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/TBC/WoWScrnShot_110706_234616.jpg
11:58.06phybercheck out the grey item that the guy is showing in the guild chat ;)
11:58.51[Liquidor]Okay still doesn't work
11:58.57[Liquidor]Seems like the frame never gets created :(
12:00.38[Liquidor]uhm 2 sec
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12:01.41Tekkubhttp://www.theonion.com/content/node/54920?utm_source=onion_rss_daily
12:01.45CIA-1703phyber * r16345 10Denial2/ (Denial2.lua Denial2.toc):
12:01.45CIA-17Denial2:
12:01.45CIA-17- WoW 2.0 Changes.
12:03.47[Liquidor]This is how it looks like now: http://pastey.net/2241
12:04.50phyberCheck out Wallet in the SVN for a really simple frame that works.
12:04.58CIA-1703tristan * r16346 10T_Tracking/:
12:04.58CIA-17T_Tracking:
12:04.58CIA-17- Updated Externals
12:04.59phybersee what's being done differently by your frame.
12:05.05phyberor what isn't being done.
12:05.17XLVII<PROTECTED>
12:05.24Snago[Liquidor]: try adding Liquid.TaskBarFrame = frame in the end
12:05.26phyberit's what I wrote ages ago when I was making my first LUA frame.
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12:08.33Elkanohmm... did they kill WDB files? :(
12:09.03[Liquidor]phyber: I can't see any diff. :-/
12:09.12[Liquidor]Not I at least, maybe you can?
12:09.18[Liquidor]http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Wallet/Wallet.lua
12:09.24[Liquidor]vs http://pastey.net/2241
12:10.32phyberonly diff really is that I do the :Show() after everything was created.
12:10.39phyberI think I do the same thing in XPBarNone too.
12:11.21CIA-1703tristan * r16347 10T_Tracking/T_Tracking.toc:
12:11.21CIA-17T_Tracking:
12:11.22CIA-17- Updated with a better description
12:11.22phyberyeah, I create the frames in :OnInitialize() and then :Show() them in :OnEnable().  but you're right, both seem the same.
12:11.31[Liquidor]Uhm I just added a print into the function and seems like ti doesn't get executed
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12:12.00phyber[Liquidor]: oh, I do a ClearAllPoints() before my SetPoint
12:12.05[Liquidor]Bah I know why now
12:12.07phybertry that.
12:12.10Snagoand ClearAllPoints(), but that shouldn't make any difference, as the frame just was created and has no points..
12:12.11[Liquidor]It's not that
12:12.17phyberah
12:12.18[Liquidor]The function doesn't get executed at all since ....
12:12.26[Liquidor]You know I converted to xml from lua aight?
12:12.41[Liquidor]So self:OnLoad() doesn't start since it was in the xml file-onload
12:12.41phyberI was going to ask if the function was executed, but thought that was obvious :p
12:12.48Snago-.-
12:12.53phyberhehe, funny :)
12:12.57[Liquidor]well that's the tricky thing when converting :)
12:13.04[Liquidor]never done it by lua before today so
12:13.11[Liquidor]take it easy :> I'm new on this
12:15.15Snagook, now that that one is solved maybe someone can solve my problem
12:15.45Snagoi need to check if the bank is really closed
12:16.50Snagotrying to use an item when bank closes but using UseContainerItem(i, j) when BANKFRAME_CLOSED fires still moves the item to the bank :S
12:17.42sylvanaarcan AceDB profiles be through layering and composition? ie can i place settings at various levels as defualts, and have the user end up with all those defaults able to reference it by one name like profile.current?
12:25.42sylvanaarstuff is way to confusing - 95% of the modd on the svn just use .profile
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12:27.36sylvanaarlol, including fubar
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12:28.10Frittisylvanaar: but .profile is what you're looking for?
12:28.24Frittithat's the *current* proifle
12:28.29Frittiwhich you can switch useing /ace2 commands
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12:29.09sylvanaarFritti: fubar doesnt register the character specificDB
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12:29.37sylvanaarFritti: which explains alot
12:31.45sylvanaarFritti: but this is what the docs say :  self.db.class.points
12:32.44sylvanaarFritti: it implies that that is how im to reference it
12:32.44SnagoIs it safe to assume that people has bought the first bankslot and are using a bag in it? :|
12:33.03sylvanaarno?
12:33.12Frittisylvanaar: I'm rusty, but I think that self.db.profile always points to the current profile
12:33.17Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2961.0
12:33.19Snagothat's what I feared :P
12:33.19Industrial*cry*
12:33.35Frittiif you explicitly want to meddle with another profile you use self.db.class.foo etc
12:33.40Frittilet me check for docs
12:33.52Industrialmaybe we should start all over again with ace witht he 10 people that were in here in the beginning
12:33.56Industrialand tell nobody
12:33.56Industrial:P
12:34.42Frittihttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0#Data_types
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12:34.48sylvanaarsylvanaar so if i change a value using db.profile thats in the class defaults it makes a new entery in the profile to override it
12:35.00dafirehi
12:35.17Frittisylvanaar: as far as I understand the system, yes. but I'm not 100% sure on that myself.
12:35.22Frittibut
12:35.37Frittiyou need to register the defaults for 'class' as well then
12:35.55sylvanaaryeah, thats what im doing
12:36.08sylvanaarbut the documentation was throwing me off
12:36.09JoshBork1Industrial: you get your key?
12:36.16Industrialno
12:36.17Industrialyou
12:36.19JoshBork1no :(
12:36.40FrittiIndustrial/JoshBork1: when did you register?
12:37.04Industrialit was confirmed my name was in the list of the first batch
12:37.07FrittiI signed up on Monday and got it yesterday evening... way faster than I expected
12:37.08JoshBork1mgld kss
12:37.14JoshBork1mine too INdy
12:37.17dafireFritti: eu ?
12:37.18Fritti:(
12:37.19FrittiEU
12:37.49dafirei won a key in eu and waited 2 weeks and don't have it yet .. signed up at wowi and got it after 2 days..
12:37.55dafire(yesterday)
12:38.06Industrialdafire: so you have 2 keys?
12:38.10Industrialunfairness
12:38.11Industrial:(
12:38.23dafireno .. because the one i won 2 weeks ago did not arrive yet
12:38.49dafirereally nice to win a key on the fansite and then have to wait weeks... many upset people there
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12:41.06uszmorning all
12:41.09Snagogah! the bank is driving me crazy! Items I use after BANKFRAME_CLOSED (after CloseBankFrame()) still gets moved to the bank instead of used! :'(
12:41.36phyberSnago: because your connection to the bank is still open?  you must not be calling some much needed function.
12:41.45phyberI used to get this with some addon, but I forget which.
12:41.52phyber</not helpful>
12:42.13phyberrun away from the bank a little and see if you hear the "bank closing noise"
12:42.13WobinI got one from wowi
12:42.16Wobinand one from ui.wow
12:42.23Wobinand neither of them have arrived =(
12:42.49phyberWobin: :(
12:43.27FrittiI'm almost embarrassed that mine arrived so soon
12:43.44dafireI think there will be a change of eu language packs with the extension .. instead of a seperated folder with the other language you can choose the language in the addons screen... this probably means that both version will share the same addon folder and the same savedvariables ... so it would be good to not store localized data in them
12:44.14Wobinchoosable languages would be kinda cool
12:45.08kovi.. not, they are going crazy with translations in expansion, hell, they'll even translate orgrimmar into german...
12:45.10uszdafire, thats bad news for mod writters
12:45.21Wobinwhat is the german translation?
12:45.25kovii'm from germany and have always played english version because the translation sucks
12:45.31dafirethey changed the folder stucture already... it's not longer /wow/data/*.mpq but /wow/data/enGB/*.mpq
12:45.32kovii dunno
12:46.07dafireI don't think they change ogrimmar.. since it has no meaning ... but ironforge is "eisenschmiede"
12:46.18Wobinstormwind?
12:46.30dafireprobably .. .9
12:46.40koviunterstadt!
12:46.44kovihaha :/
12:46.48dafireyeah .9
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12:47.03kovinot sure if they will actually translate orgrimmar but i heard someone say they would
12:47.07cncfanaticsyo all !
12:47.15Wobinlo c
12:47.22uszheya
12:47.31JoshBork1quick! hide!
12:47.55cncfanaticsfinally ! blizzard used its own actiondragging code !
12:47.55dafirebut getting addons to work with tbc is a mess.. ag_uf tbc worked.. bartender tbc worked... both together .. nogo :9
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12:48.11|Pixel|yay!
12:48.13cncfanaticsthats probably because they don't use the same ace build dafire
12:48.26cncfanaticsI noticed that the TBC branch & life branch don't like to like live together
12:48.32cncfanatics(with aguf & flexbar2)
12:48.41Frittiflexbar2 is ace2?
12:48.50FrittiI've been away for too long...
12:48.57cncfanaticsflexbar2 ain't out yet ;)
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12:49.20Frittiit's downloadable on the first google hit :)
12:49.25Frittihttp://flexdev.mmorpgaming.com/svn/flexdev/branch/FlexBar2/
12:49.38cncfanaticsbleh, that one is outdated
12:49.45kovihttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44957725&sid=1
12:49.46kovihahah
12:49.53cncfanaticsnice from u to remember me to update the flexdev svn as well as the ace one :p
12:50.42Fritticncfanatics: :)
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12:52.04aE|neXterno, they won't
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12:52.33aE|neXteroh, sry, *nexttimeplsremebertoscrooldownbeforeyouanswer*
12:52.55cncfanaticslol
12:53.12aE|neXtermy last line was "kovi: not sure if they will actually translate orgrimmar but i heard someone say they would"
12:53.25cncfanaticsur a bit late -.-
12:53.49aE|neXteryes i am, living in the past...
12:54.01[Liquidor]Is this wrong? frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(arg1) self:TaskBar_OnUpdate(arg1) end)
12:54.30aE|neXtermaybe it's not a good idea to watch thps speedmovies, listen to elr and gave the irc window open at the same time
12:54.32cncfanaticsits this:
12:54.34cncfanaticsnot self:
12:54.43uszself is fine
12:54.49uszdrop (arg1)
12:54.52uszand make it ()
12:54.53[Liquidor]k
12:54.55uszas arg1 is global
12:55.04cncfanaticsthere shldnt be a self when blizz calls functions directly ?
12:55.08cncfanaticsthat I know off anyway
12:55.21[Liquidor]drop which one of them?
12:55.21uszyou override it inside function body, because you declare it as argument
12:55.22JoshBork1it's a method
12:55.32uszframe:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() self:TaskBar_OnUpdate(arg1) end)
12:55.38uszthis should work
12:55.40[Liquidor]ok
12:55.41JoshBork1which means self gets passed implicitely
12:55.58[Liquidor]YES !!
12:56.00[Liquidor]FINALLY
12:56.03usz^^
12:56.04[Liquidor]Converted from xml to lua !!
12:56.13[Liquidor]First success after I converted -.-
12:56.13uszhah
12:56.23JoshBork1frame:SetScript(<event>,<handler>) ==> frame.SetScript(self,<event>,<handler>)
12:56.48krkawhat would self refer to in that case?
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12:57.02[Liquidor]frame
12:57.03krkashow more of the code so we can see where it's defined
12:57.05[Liquidor]or?
12:57.16uszdepends on closure
12:57.17[Liquidor]well at mine it's my object
12:57.30JoshBork1krka: no fucking clue :-D
12:57.49JoshBork1just because i know about it doesn't mean i understand it worth a damn :-D
12:57.55usz[Liquidor], it is your object, because you declare inside this function() ... end inside other function that has self defined
12:58.01[Liquidor]function Alpha:Bravo() local frame = Creat....(); frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() self:TaskBar_OnUpdate(arg1) end) end
12:58.04uszthis is the only reason why you can use self there
12:58.37uszthe power of closures ^^
12:59.56[Liquidor]Now I just need to find out what the heck is going on with the 2 subframes -.- doesn't work at all
13:00.15cncfanatics[Liquidor] working with frame generation in lua ? :p
13:00.23[Liquidor]ye first time
13:00.25[Liquidor]started today
13:00.38cncfanaticsif u want examples, get the fb2 sourcecode & look at the _view.lua file
13:00.42[Liquidor]it all worked fine with xml but now when I'm converting nothing works :>
13:00.44cncfanaticsits full of frame generation stuff
13:01.28[Liquidor]Thanks :) I'm using Wallet.lua though
13:01.34[Liquidor]Quite simple stuff there
13:01.37usz[Liquidor], you might want to look at http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/TooltipExchange/Modules/UI.lua lines 450+
13:01.53usztheres 600 lines of UI generation ^^
13:02.41[Liquidor]Just have to get used to the idea of that frames are created as tables
13:02.46[Liquidor]blows my mind atm
13:03.25cncfanatics[Liquidor], ur creating frames for what ?
13:03.38[Liquidor]for my addon?
13:03.39cncfanaticsif ur creating a lot of frames with the same code it might be intresting to use AceOO
13:03.53cncfanaticsI mean for what in an addon, config UI , or what ?
13:04.16[Liquidor]Sorry but I don't understand :-/
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13:04.28cncfanaticswhy do u create frames ?
13:04.33[Liquidor]Oh
13:04.34cncfanaticswhat does ur addon do -.-
13:04.41[Liquidor]Well it needs something visual :)
13:04.47[Liquidor]Heh I won't tell
13:04.48uszso for UI?
13:05.00cncfanaticsif it ain't anything rly dynamic why not keep using XML ? -.-
13:05.06[Liquidor]Everyone else thinks it's redicilous, my project that is, so I won't tell really
13:05.13[Liquidor]It is quite dynamic
13:05.15uszcncfanatics, stop there ^^
13:05.23cncfanaticsusz, why ? :p
13:05.38uszbecause i feckin made full UI in lua and i want all to suffer same :)
13:05.43[Liquidor]It's a big project cncfanatics, not interested in having 24 xml files
13:06.06cncfanaticslol usz
13:06.11[Liquidor]hehe usz
13:06.36cncfanaticsbtw [Liquidor] , lua generation is mainly handy (imo at least) for actionbuttons and the like , ur creating something like that ?
13:06.43[Liquidor]How come the icon from Bugsack keeps changing pos. ?
13:07.00[Liquidor]You could say that cncfanatics yeah
13:07.09cncfanaticsthen u shld use AceOO too :p
13:07.13cncfanaticsclasses own to manage frames
13:07.17uszi bet he makes bot to farm goldz ^^
13:07.19cncfanaticsu can see a set of frames as a single object
13:07.19[Liquidor]I don't use Ace with this one :)
13:07.38[Liquidor]usz: already done so no
13:07.50[Liquidor]I'm creating a Windows Shell, there happy now? :)
13:07.58usz*cough* what?
13:08.02[Liquidor]Hehe
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13:08.24[Liquidor]People thinks it's redicilous to do, but well I'm fond of the project and I like the challenge
13:09.11[Liquidor]I'll show you a screenie when I'm done with the taskbar, takes a little extra since I'm now using lua to create frames
13:09.11uszhmmm, you mean list desktop?
13:09.30uszwith start menu, taskbar, quick launch etc?
13:09.42[Liquidor]I don't know if I mean "list desktop" cause I don't know what that means. I know the words and what they are but not connected
13:09.43andremarwth? :)
13:09.47andremarwindows shell?
13:09.51[Liquidor]Yes usz
13:10.06grzesieqlol
13:10.12uszwell all i can say is - good luck!
13:10.16[Liquidor]hehe
13:10.21andremarI can understand why people call you abit loony now :p
13:10.29andremarbut good luck :)
13:10.34andremarhope it works out for you
13:10.34grzesieqreplacing a bad ui with the worst ui ever - gg ;)
13:10.36[Liquidor]Just need this taskbar done so I can get further on with the windows and folder systems
13:10.47cncfanatics[Liquidor]
13:10.48andremarwhat will the folders represent?
13:10.57[Liquidor]well it's for the Documents part
13:11.02andremarspellbook?
13:11.05andremarquests?
13:11.06cncfanaticsif u want examples on frames with aceOO, or just creating frames, use this: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/FlexBar2_View.lua
13:11.12Mikma13:05 #wowace: >>> Elkano is trying to highlight Mikma ... "Hey, are you there?"
13:11.14[Liquidor]"textfiles" as we know them in windows
13:11.17Mikmaheh he managed to do it
13:11.28[Ammo]I've got a license to kill^Wdrive
13:11.45[Liquidor]Sure thing cncfanatics
13:11.52grzesieqcongratulations [Ammo]
13:11.54andremarthe world just got a little bit less safe :p
13:12.08[Ammo]yeah
13:12.10[Ammo]muahahaha
13:12.10grzesieqgot mine not so long ago ;)
13:12.27[Ammo]well I tried it once 5 years ago, but failed the test, and had already bought a car, so no money left
13:12.36CIA-1703mikma 07Bartender3 * r16348 10Bartender3/Bartender3.lua: Bartender3: Cleaned the code, took stancebarswap off completely
13:12.47[Ammo]but I am teh happy now
13:12.55[Ammo]and back just in time for lunch :)
13:12.58dafirebtw .. is there a fubar plugin for bartender3 ? :)
13:13.23cncfanaticsbartender3; stable yet ?
13:13.28Mikmadafire: nope, not yet :P
13:13.32dafiretbc branch :)
13:13.36Mikmastable as it can without secure-code
13:13.50Mikmadoes NOT have stances in anymore so is not working with druid/warrior
13:13.58Mikmaanyway it didn't work with them so meh
13:13.59cncfanaticsur planning to implement it or not ?
13:14.31Mikmaif it's possible, yes
13:14.43Wobinnight
13:14.48[Liquidor]uhm name of the frame of all the bottom stuff?
13:15.09dafirewhy no stances ? :)
13:15.10cncfanaticsit is possible Mikma
13:15.14cncfanaticsbut its a pain in the arse
13:15.28cncfanaticswant to work together for stance stuff ?
13:15.35Mikmadafire: they don't work the way Bartender2 did do it
13:15.35cncfanaticsneed it for fb2 too -.-
13:16.03Mikmayeah i don't mind, i need to start inspecting the code first before i can do anything with it
13:16.20cncfanaticssame, but didn't have the time yet
13:16.24cncfanaticsso much other stuff to code -.-
13:16.32phyberzomg, JoshBorke cored my irssi :o
13:16.40phybersomething broke when he quit earlier ;)
13:16.42JoshBorkemorning
13:16.46JoshBorkelol
13:16.48phyber#8  0x080ac6a9 in irc_server_event (server=0x8bc6d00, line=0x8e59ac0 "QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)", nick=0x8e59a99 "JoshBork1", address=0x8e59aa3 "n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu") at irc.c:303
13:17.00Mikmaphyber: gz! :D
13:17.03phyber\o/
13:18.34[Liquidor]Ok I got a prob here with framestratas...
13:19.19usz[Liquidor], you them via :SetFrameStrata("BACKGROUND") etc
13:19.38[Liquidor]First I create a frame, Strata it to Medium, then I create a subframe and Strata it to High... That works all well however I then create a texture but that texture goes behind the main frame
13:20.04cncfanaticsdid u call SetAllPoints on the texture ?
13:20.08cncfanaticsto its parent frame
13:20.21JoshBorke[Liquidor]: make sure the parent frame is the top level frame (at high strata)
13:20.23[Liquidor]<PROTECTED>
13:20.37phyber[Liquidor]: you need to do something like this...
13:20.38[Liquidor]top level?
13:20.41phyber<PROTECTED>
13:20.41phyber<PROTECTED>
13:20.41phyber<PROTECTED>
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13:21.14[Liquidor]Oh I forgot the levels
13:21.27phyber:)
13:21.54Mikmalewls!
13:22.29[Liquidor]uhm
13:22.38[Liquidor]but only 2 of them are frames, the last one is a texture
13:22.59cncfanaticsshldnt mather as long as texture's inherit from that method [Liquidor]
13:23.05cncfanaticss/mather/matter/
13:23.09[Liquidor]frame:SetFrameStrata("MEDIUM"); frame.Menu:SetFrameStrata("HIGH"); frame.Menu.Backdrop = frame:CreateTex....
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13:23.39JoshBorketextures don't get frame strata
13:23.58[Liquidor]ok then how do I make it level or whatever above my mainframe?
13:24.16Tekkubbleh
13:24.30TekkubMikk, you back now?
13:24.43cncfanaticsdont textures have the exact same strata as their parent ?
13:24.55Mikmashould
13:25.00[Liquidor]erhm 2 sec
13:25.26[Liquidor]when I create the texture I only set 2 args in frame:CreateTexture(arg1, arg2) should I set a 3rd?
13:25.49[Liquidor]Argh :-/
13:26.16[Liquidor]I'll show you the func
13:27.28[Liquidor]Still missing a lot of code within converted from xml but so far it isn't working as intended: http://pastey.net/2242
13:27.48[Liquidor]The 2 textures are hidden behind the mainframe or backdrop at least
13:29.14cncfanaticsuse the DIALOG framestrata of u want to be above everything maybe ?
13:30.03[Liquidor]Actually just lowered them from FULLSCREEN/DIALOG to HIGH/MEDIUM since that didn't matter atm
13:30.18[Liquidor]I've centered the taskbar so I can see it without anything else around
13:30.36[Liquidor]Need SOO much more data converted omg -.-
13:30.42[Liquidor]Just need the hang of this new way of creating frames
13:31.20cncfanaticsXML is so much simpeler to create frames like that one
13:31.29cncfanaticsur lua file will be bigger then ur xml was
13:31.50Funkeh`is there any way in grid to only show a dot if their missing a buff, not when they have a buff
13:31.52Mi|es_use xml for a template, use lua to create the frame from that
13:32.05cncfanaticsagreed Mi|es_
13:32.42CIA-1703miles 07Miles * r16349 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
13:32.42CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
13:32.42CIA-17- New event handler for frequently fired events
13:32.43CIA-17- Lag on RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE / PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED should be solved.
13:32.49Mi|es_or wtb AceGUI-2
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13:32.58cncfanaticsI never liked AceGUI
13:33.00[Liquidor]Okay so noone can help? :-/
13:33.05cncfanaticsdoesn't do nearly all I want
13:33.30cncfanatics[Liquidor], if stuff gets over urs its a good bet to lower their strata instead of trying to higher urs
13:33.44cncfanaticsor hide em as long as ur frame is shown
13:33.56[Liquidor]Don't think you get the issue here :S
13:34.00Mikmanevcairiel: yo.
13:34.14[Liquidor]Issue is that my CreateTexture(...) frame is behind my Main Frame
13:34.42[Liquidor]frame.Menu.Backdrop is behind frame.Backdrop
13:34.58beerkehmmm does ag_unitframes got out of range coloring/fading ?
13:34.58cncfanaticslower the strata of frame.BackDrop ?
13:35.08[Liquidor]Even though frame's strata is lower than frame.Name's strata
13:35.13cncfanaticshmmmm
13:35.17[Liquidor]But there's no strata on textures
13:35.20cncfanaticsare the frames set to 'popup' on clicking ?
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13:35.29cncfanaticsmost frames get on top of everything when clicked
13:35.33cncfanaticsthat might be ur problem
13:35.34[Liquidor]ye
13:35.46cncfanaticstry removing that ?
13:35.49[Liquidor]remove what=
13:35.51usz[Liquidor], doesnt textures use frame stratas?
13:35.51[Liquidor]?*
13:36.03[Liquidor]usz: dunno one of you said that earlier
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13:36.14uszbelive that is ture
13:36.18[Liquidor]at least if I try it tells me that it doesn't like it
13:36.31[Liquidor]look at http://pastey.net/2242
13:36.46Mikmalol
13:36.47Mikmahttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016082/FrameXML/SecureStateHeader.lua
13:36.57cncfanatics[Liquidor]
13:36.58Mikma#
13:37.00Mikma-- SecureStateHeader - Button management state engine
13:37.00Mikma#
13:37.00Mikma--
13:37.00Mikma#
13:37.02Mikma---------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:37.05Mikma#
13:37.07Mikma-- Contributed with permission by Iriel, with some support code from Tem
13:37.11Mikmawtf are those marks
13:37.11yacoob#
13:37.23cncfanaticsuse CreateTexture("anything", "ARTWORK");
13:37.24yacoob# haha, foiled your nifty config file!
13:37.32cncfanaticsanything of just CreateTexture("anything");
13:37.34cncfanaticsmight help u
13:37.41Mikmainvisible marks ftw
13:37.46Funkeh`lol
13:37.49[Liquidor]ARTWORK instead of OVERLAY?
13:37.54Mikmaanyway, nice credits on blizzard code :D
13:38.01cncfanaticsu use nothing atm -.-
13:38.02Mikmago Tem and Iriel :)
13:38.16cncfanaticsnvm, missread :p
13:38.18cncfanaticsbut try ARTWORK
13:38.23cncfanaticsgets over most stuff normaly
13:38.25[Liquidor]didn't help
13:39.05cncfanaticsweird :/
13:39.11[Liquidor]It's just weird cause the fontstrings are shown above but not the backdrop
13:39.13Mikmano wonder tem was getting a headache when he was talking to us
13:39.26cncfanaticshttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/FlexBar2_View.lua, compare my code with urs & check the differences I guess :/
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13:40.28usz[Liquidor], well all looks fine to me... only small change to how i did code my UI is that I dont set strata on child frames
13:40.47CIA-1703mpstark * r16350 10PetExtend/ (. Core.lua):
13:40.47CIA-17PetExtend:
13:40.47CIA-17--Updated externals.
13:40.48CIA-17--Updated Core.lua slightly to make sure that features that do not work and/or are in progress of being written are hidden or disabled.
13:40.50uszand always child frame elements are *before* parent frame elenebts
13:40.56[Liquidor]Uhm I'll try comment the 2 strats out
13:42.48[Liquidor]eh what?
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13:42.49uszwell i say that they appear infront of parent frame elements, ofc texture and fontstring correct levels are needed
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13:44.11Snagois there any good way to check if the bank is opened?
13:44.15[Liquidor]frame:SetTopLevel(1) doesn't work
13:45.34[Liquidor]oh it's framelevel
13:45.36[Liquidor]uhm 2 sec
13:47.38[Liquidor]I can't use SetFrameLevel neither nor SetTopLevel for the texture :S
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13:49.14sergiohahahahsd what the fuck blizzard. they gave draenei priest fear ward and not blood elves for their racial
13:49.45krkawhat did BE get?
13:49.56Mikmameheheee
13:49.59Mikma"I taste shit"
13:50.06cncfanaticsI taste more alliance ezmode
13:50.10sergiodispels a magic buff and gains mana back
13:50.14Mikmahttp://mikma.reaktio.net/shit.jpg
13:50.19cncfanaticsGAIN mana ?
13:50.21cncfanaticsthats imba :/
13:50.39sergiohttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/spells.html
13:50.48Silviu-what was the wikipage with the working TBC addons ?
13:51.05Mikma-- SecurePieButton contributed with permission by: Iriel
13:51.11Mikmaok it wasn't a joke, it really exists
13:51.40cncfanaticswhat does it do Mikma ? :
13:52.11Mikmacncfanatics: i have no idea :)
13:52.17Mikmahttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016082/FrameXML/SecureTemplates.lua
13:53.14LaricI love the bombing missions :P
13:53.40Frittisecurepiebutton? lol
13:54.05Mi|es_it's for the secret pie vendor in IF
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13:54.53cncfanaticswhats wrong with this code ? -.- http://ace.pastey.net/2243
13:55.03cncfanaticsactions with itemcount 0 get true
13:55.04Mikmacncfanatics: it doesn't work
13:55.12cncfanatics....
13:55.22[Liquidor]NO !
13:55.25cncfanaticsactualy it does except in the above case :p
13:55.29[Liquidor]What's wrong with _this_ code? http://pastey.net/2242
13:55.32cncfanatics:p
13:55.40cncfanaticsmine is smaller, just 3 lines
13:55.47usztrue
13:56.04usz[Liquidor], your code is too long to take a look at
13:56.15cncfanaticscorrect mine plx -.-
13:56.32cncfanaticsthe ((Consumable and ActionCount > 0) or not Consumable) part ain't working
13:56.47cncfanaticsis suposed to be false if the action is consumable and has no count, but it returns true
13:56.50Mi|es_[Liquidor], use xml plx
13:56.53[Liquidor]http://pastey.net/2244 then
13:57.14Fritticncfanatics: ((Consumable and (ActionCount > 0)) or not Consumable)
13:57.17FrittiI guess
13:57.43Frittilua's operator precedence bit me once, does it show? :)
13:57.52[Liquidor]Last Texture created at the bottom is hidden behind everything else above. That's the issue and I can't see why: http://pastey.net/2244
13:58.11cncfanaticswld and go before > 0 ?
13:58.14cncfanaticsI doubt -.-
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13:59.02krkanothing strange about luas operator precedence
13:59.03Frittihttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.6
13:59.04usz[Liquidor], use frame.Menu:CreateTexture(parent.."MenuBackdrop", "OVERLAY") instead of frame:Create...
13:59.05Mikma"1:main;2:submenu;3-10:catmenu;11-20:bearmenu"
13:59.07Mikmahmm
13:59.08Frittiand goes before >
13:59.14krkahttp://www.lua.org/pil/3.5.html
13:59.17cncfanaticsffs :/
13:59.25sbu[Ammo]? *poke*
13:59.30Frittikrka: I agree with cncfanatics, this is counter-intuitive :0
13:59.57cncfanatics~= or == go before and but not >, <, >= & <=, this is just gimp
14:00.10purlcncfanatics: I think you lost me on that one
14:00.10Frittihrm
14:00.10Frittino
14:00.10FrittiI'm wrong
14:00.13Frittithe table is the other way around
14:00.22Frittiso > should go before and
14:00.38cncfanaticsnub purl
14:00.50cncfanaticshmmm
14:00.55[Liquidor]usz: ?
14:00.58[Ammo]sbu ?
14:00.58cncfanaticsseems SpellUsable is nil
14:00.59cncfanaticsweird
14:01.02[Liquidor]usz: How do I set values then?
14:01.08uszcreate texture on child frame not parent frame
14:01.21[Liquidor]oh
14:01.31cncfanaticsok, I got the error
14:01.35uszchange: frame.Menu.Backdrop = frame:CreateTexture(parent.."MenuBackdrop", "OVERLAY")
14:01.40sbu[Ammo]: whats BigWigs_EncounterMonitor? :o
14:01.41uszto: frame.Menu.Backdrop = frame.Menu:CreateTexture(parent.."MenuBackdrop", "OVERLAY")
14:01.43cncfanaticswhy would (IsUsableAction(ActionID) and IsActionInRange(ActionID) ~= 0 and ActDur <= 1.5 and ((Consumable and ActionCount > 0) or not Consumable)) ever be nil ? :(
14:01.53cncfanaticsits a god damn conditional
14:01.55[Ammo]sbu: it's an uncomitted addon :p
14:02.02[Ammo]gives % of boss, time in combat with boss
14:02.05sbuahhhhh
14:02.06sbunice!!! :)
14:02.17krkaconditionals can be nil
14:02.18[Liquidor]Okay that worked usz
14:02.25krkahave you read up on how and / or works?
14:02.41cncfanaticsnot specialy
14:02.45cncfanaticsbut who would this one be nil ?
14:02.54krkatrue and nil --> nil
14:03.03krkanil or 5 --> nil
14:03.03Mikmanevcairiel: wake up :)
14:03.06krkafalse and 234 --> 234
14:03.09krkaerr
14:03.11krkaor
14:03.14tkiefferClad, you here?
14:03.15krkafalse or 234 --> 234
14:03.17cncfanaticsnothing in this thing shld ever return nil
14:03.24[Ammo]well something does :)
14:03.27sbu[Ammo]: hmm how do you detect if the raid is in combat w/ that boss? because e.g. vael module activates in razorgore room etc
14:03.27krkaIUsableAction might
14:03.28cncfanaticsseems -.-
14:03.28[Ammo]my guess would be Consumable
14:03.38[Ammo]sbu: that's a bit of Ammo Magic kthxbye :p
14:03.40krkaIsActionInRange definitately can return nil
14:03.45sbuheh... ;p
14:04.11krkahm, compared to 0 though..
14:04.13krkanever mind
14:04.22krkaprobably IsUsableAction then
14:04.30tkiefferBleh.
14:04.35tkiefferI lost my pw to dev
14:04.38tkiefferDammit
14:04.39krkahttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsUsableAction
14:04.44tkiefferAnyone other than clad able to reset it?
14:04.50cncfanaticsthat may return nil
14:04.53cncfanaticsthat part of the code works fine
14:04.57cncfanaticsits the last part that ain't working :(
14:05.14cncfanaticsactualy, i'm gonna kick nil out
14:05.22sbu[Ammo]: but thats the only cool thing vendetta has and bigwigs not (besides that pizzatimer, but i guess bigwigs_pizzatimer - uhm wait... if i find some free time.. %-))
14:05.40[Ammo]pizzatimer is there for bigwigs
14:05.44sbuit is?
14:05.50[Liquidor]Uhm usz you there?
14:05.51cryogen<PROTECTED>
14:05.53[Ammo]do: /bwlcb 600 PIZZA!
14:05.56Funkeh`sbu: ;_; a long time ago
14:05.59usz[Liquidor], sup?
14:06.04cncfanaticsworks now, thanks :)
14:06.06sbuheh :/
14:06.08cncfanaticsseems it didn't like nil :/
14:06.21[Liquidor]usz: I got it working now thanks, however how do I then make the text above the backdrop?
14:07.06sbuuhm
14:07.11usz[Liquidor], you put texture in "ARTWORK" and text in "OVERLAY" for example?
14:07.38haste[Ammo]: haha, I should start doing that
14:07.40sbuso i can share my pizza timer with others using /bwcb
14:07.42sbunice :)
14:07.49hasteexactly!
14:08.12[Liquidor]usz: Thanks :)
14:08.21Funkeh`[Ammo]: at your curse answer about loading core in raid only, is there not some instances you can enter without raid that have boss mods? cant remember
14:08.31sbui guess they are going to kill me if it reaches 0 in the middle of some bossfight :p (nef/chomaggus)
14:09.14Funkeh`[Ammo]: just wondering at lvl 70 you could 5 man zg/aq20 or whatnot, but cant rememeber if tehres a raid restriction on those instances
14:09.37[Liquidor]has to be raid
14:09.37cncfanaticsthere are Funkeh`
14:09.45Funkeh`ok cnc, ty
14:10.22[Liquidor]but you'll see 5man instances in TBC where bossmods will be made
14:10.34sbuand kazzak w/ 5 man ;p
14:10.46Funkeh`sbu: true
14:10.48[Liquidor]onyxia already at 4
14:10.52[Liquidor]azuregos at 2
14:10.59Funkeh`no liquid, cause you need a raid to get in
14:11.00sbuwoot? azu w/ 2?
14:11.08[Liquidor]ye
14:11.15[Liquidor]or could be 3, can't remember
14:11.32cncfanaticsdps tank healer probably
14:11.35[Liquidor]nah it was 3, warrior, priest rogue or smth
14:11.44Funkeh`im just wondering its a good idea what ammo posted about loading it like that but im sure there are places it might get tricky ^^
14:12.07[Liquidor]Funkeh`: you don't need a raid to get into 5-man instances?!
14:12.46Funkeh`onyxia isnt 5 man
14:13.11[Liquidor]well I was talking about TBFC
14:13.24Funkeh`whether its 5 mannablr or not at lvl 70, you will still need to convert to raid to zone in
14:13.26[Liquidor]eh not THe burning fucking crusade, I meant TBC
14:14.07cncfanaticswho wld want to 5man zg or aq anyway
14:14.16Funkeh`uness you load the core and instance when you zone
14:14.31Funkeh`if thats even possible
14:15.19Mikmaoh christ this TextMate is hard
14:15.29Mikmacan't figure out how to enable .lua bundle in it :P
14:17.17Funkeh`im just thinking aloud ammo, feel free to tell me off/correct me :P
14:17.52sbuuhoh
14:17.56sbumy unitframes are gone
14:18.59andremarMikma: TextMate rocks shit :p
14:19.09phyberhohoho.  Futurama++
14:19.10andremarMikma: but get Bundle Updater or what the bundle is called
14:19.19phyberI'm sending out "beige" alerts in SMSs when something fails.
14:19.30phybersendsms($sitename, "beige", $panelname, int($crit), localtime($now));
14:19.32phyber\o/
14:19.53phyberlack of proper colour alerts, ftw.
14:20.02phybersomeone else can code it :p
14:20.02krkahow awfully neutral of you
14:20.15krkawhat makes a man turn neutral?
14:20.17phyberkrka: I know, I just have a heart full of neutrality :(
14:20.25Mikmaandremar: well i still can't realize how can i use the bundles i added
14:20.34phyberif I die, tell my wife I said "hello".
14:20.49andremardo they show up in the bundle list?
14:21.17krkayou may just be slightly more futurama nerdy than me
14:21.23andremarMikma: at the bottom you select the filetype you are working with
14:21.26CIA-1703cncfanatics * r16351 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.lua FlexBar2_Controller.lua FlexBar2_View.lua): (log message trimmed)
14:21.27CIA-17FlexBar2:
14:21.27CIA-17<PROTECTED>
14:21.27CIA-17<PROTECTED>
14:21.27CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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14:21.44krkaZapp: So, a plan to assassinate some weird looking aliens with scissors. How very neutral of you. It was almost the perfect crime, but you forgot one thing. Rock crushes scissors! ...But paper covers rock ...and scissors cut paper. Kif, we have a conundrum! Search them for paper, and bring me a rock.
14:22.05phyberKif: ughhhh
14:23.01Mikmaandremar: doesn't even show up in the list. but i see WoW in budles
14:23.05Mikmaandremar: bundles*
14:23.32phyberkrka: did you know slashdot.org gives out Futurama quotes in the http headers? :)
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14:23.50andremarMikma: WoW bundle? url?
14:24.10Mikmaandremar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5866
14:24.31phyberX-Fry: I must be a robot. Why else would human women refuse to date me?
14:24.37Mikmadoesn't show up as a language tho
14:24.49andremarWoW - Lua doesnt show up?
14:24.53Mikmanope
14:25.06andremarpopped right up here
14:25.10andremardo you have the Lua bundle?
14:25.13andremarperhaps it depends on it
14:25.27krkaphyber: i thought it was just random quotes in general
14:25.37Mikmaandremar: propably not :P
14:26.25andremarhttp://validcode.net/2006/11/7/textmate-getbundle-bundle
14:26.27andremarget that
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14:27.48Mikmai thought i already had that but maybe i was mistaken
14:27.59JoshBorkecncfanatics: why do you have a global function named c?
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14:30.32CIA-1703eternally777 * r16352 10SacredBuff/ (Locales/deDE.lua Locales/frFR.lua SacredBuff.lua UI.lua):
14:30.32CIA-17SacredBuff:
14:30.32CIA-17+ Updated French localization
14:30.32CIA-17+ Set svn:eol-style "native" on deDE.lua
14:30.32CIA-17+ Added initial cooldown code to UI.lua
14:30.32CIA-17* Minor adjustments to the SmartRes code
14:31.22andremarMikma: check your bundles then, and select Install bundle
14:31.27andremarand install the lua bundle
14:31.44andremaralso, you can check the bundle editor
14:31.50andremarto see that your wow bundle is actually there
14:32.08[Liquidor]Okay guys I've tried with diff ways but I can't seem to find the right one; How do I get the width of my screen?
14:33.35Mikmaandremar: am i missing something since i can't find my "bundles" menu :D
14:34.28andremarwth? :p
14:34.42phyber[Liquidor]: try UIParent:GetWidth() or something?
14:35.06[Liquidor]Uhm doesn't work or at least it doesn't get the width of the UI, could it be that my ui is scaled?
14:35.34phybertrying to write a Save/Load thing for your frame position?
14:35.50andremarMikma: then I think you messed it up good somehow :p
14:36.47[Liquidor]Okay let's make it simple, I need the height and the width of my interface ingame; how do I achive those 2 numbers?
14:36.59Mikmaandremar: well.. i start TextMate. i got a blank page infront of me. what do i do next?
14:37.33eternally777[Liquidor]: Look at the "SavePosition" function in Squishy
14:37.43[Liquidor]k
14:37.47usz[Liquidor], its more complicated as UI can be scaled, which size you need? resolution or scaled sizes?
14:37.47eternally777Or most addons with lua created frames for that matter
14:37.55phyberhttp://ace.pastey.net/2248
14:38.02phyber^ if you are trying to save position
14:38.41andremarMikma: and you have no Menu item for Bundles?
14:38.44[Liquidor]Okay so the UI scaling _does_ affect the width and height value
14:38.51uszofc
14:39.00Mikmaandremar: nope
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14:39.17andremarMikma: WTB screenshot :p
14:39.26Mikmaandremar: textmate, file, edit, view, text, navigation, automation, window, help
14:39.46Mikmain window there's Show bundle editor
14:39.59JoshBorke[Liquidor]: what are you trying to do?  perhaps there's another way to do it
14:40.04MikmaBTW this is 1.5 version not the latest
14:41.14andremaraha
14:41.29JoshBorke[Liquidor]: you should try using Anchors.  frame:SetPoint('BOTTOMLEFT',UIParent,'BOTTOMLEFT') frame:SetWidth(<stuff>) will make the frame 'grow' from the bottom left of the screen.
14:41.39andremarwell, select show bundle editor
14:41.46andremarsee if the wow bundle shows up there
14:42.07Mikmayeap it's in there
14:42.08[Liquidor]Okay JoshBorke but how do I make it grow from left to right? the entire width of the screen
14:42.11andremarbtw, why not using the latest version?
14:42.12JoshBorke[Liquidor]: or, frame:SetPoint('BOTTOM',UIParent,'BOTTOM') frame:SetWidth(UIParent:GetWidth())
14:42.17andremarMikma: and whats inside it?
14:42.37[Liquidor]doesn't get full with JoshBorke
14:42.38andremartwo 'L's and two 'T's?
14:42.39Mikma2 items. toc and ACE toc
14:42.50Mikmanothing else
14:43.00Mikmai propably need to update my textmate someway
14:43.09andremarthen your missing the language part of the bundle
14:43.13andremaryeah
14:43.26JoshBorke[Liquidor]: try frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT",UIParent,"BOTTOMLEFT") frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT",UIParent,"BOTTOMRIGHT")
14:43.46Mikmai'll try with the 30day trial now
14:44.53[Liquidor]phone
14:45.32Mikmaass
14:46.28andremar?
14:47.13Mikmawhaat
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14:49.09dafirei think xloot was working yesterday.. but today it isn't :)
14:49.20dafire(tbc)
14:49.49Mikmaoh well
14:50.02Mikmai guess i'll just wait someone makes a wise button-addon :P
14:50.07alakhnorI've seen Kazun is working on Ace2'ed Wardrobe \o/
14:50.29andremarMikma: didnt work?
14:51.04Mikmaandremar: downloading the 1.5.4 atm
14:51.11Mikmaor, downloaded
14:51.39Xueriandafire: Got a stack trace for me?
14:52.10Mikmaso have you heard that druids will get mail in lvl70... false or true?
14:52.28JoshBorkefalse!
14:52.39JoshBorkeit wouldn't make sense to me
14:52.46JoshBorkethey'd be clanking around when they were prowling
14:53.21XuerianWe're naked as animals. derp.
14:53.27Mikmaheh
14:53.34Mikmaso anyone can't confirm that?
14:53.35CodayusBesides, can you imagine bear tanks with mail AC?
14:53.36CodayusoO
14:53.44CodayusIt'll never happen.  :-)
14:53.47XuerianUBERWIN
14:53.57MikmaCodayus: yeah
14:54.03Mikma20k armor gg
14:54.15CodayusGiving druids polearms again would be nice though....
14:54.29CodayusNot that I expect to see that either.  :-)
14:54.40XuerianWe'll already have higher armor...10 more levels of higher armor leather and better gear ftw :p
14:54.44Xuerianmake it more! XD
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14:56.24Azurewrathmhm.. mindnote: don't try to solo HUGE lvl 63 Elite Demons..
14:56.41AKXLua IDE suggestions?
14:56.46CIA-1703ammo * r16353 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: drycoded fix for togglemoduleactive problems I introduced earler
14:57.10Xuerianlive syntax checking
14:57.16XuerianXD
14:57.22AKXI mean, suggest a Lua IDE.
14:57.24AKXDoh.
14:57.29AKXTextPad lacks in certain parts ;)
14:57.37XuerianSciTE or UltraEdit
14:57.43Xuerian(Linked to lua binaries)
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14:57.59andremarAKX: TextMate :p
15:02.21Xueriandafire dafire dafire dafire dafire dafire dafire dafire dafire dafire dafire dafire  omg STACK TRACE
15:02.50MikmaAKX: depends on the OS :P
15:02.58AKXWindows.
15:03.00Xueriandafire: Pleeeeeeeeaaaasse
15:03.08AKXOh, and yes, Bartender3 = win ;)
15:03.08andremarchange OS, use TextMate :p
15:03.19MikmaAKX: get clad's Scite -thingy from wowi
15:03.24AKXMeh
15:03.31Trillare there any addons looking for more contributors?
15:03.40Trillwould be happy to help out in spare time.
15:03.41MikmaAKX: win? well it WORKS but it still lacks the freaking stance/shapeshift :P
15:03.56Mikmaand, cyCircled in branches also has rounded skin for BT3
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15:04.29XuerianWow, that's a uh, new one 0_o
15:04.39yacoob~whalecrit AKX
15:04.41purlACTION crits AKX with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. AKX dies
15:04.41dafirebtw is omnicc working with bt3 ?
15:04.51Mikmano idea
15:04.52yacoobNow, for the ressurection...
15:05.01Mikmai have an idea
15:05.06Mikmalet's have Iriel to fix BT3
15:05.09hasteYou know what OWNS with SciTE?
15:05.13hasteit supports lua extensions!
15:05.14Mikmasince he made blizzard to use the Secure-thingy ;)
15:05.20XuerianDAFIRE! You said Xloot doesn't work in TBC, what happens/what's the error?
15:05.24Mikmahaste: shite yes
15:05.40hasteI've used SciTE for years actually :p
15:05.51dafireXuerian: i posted it in the xloot thread ... it complains hooking secure closewindows
15:05.59Xuerian...
15:06.11XuerianGreat, they just made that secure?
15:06.27hasteXuerian: _everything_ in the Blizzard UI is secure
15:06.49Xuerianhaste: either it's been quietly erroring the last couple weeks or it's been working just fine
15:07.01dafireyesterday i swear it worked .9
15:07.02XuerianEither way this is the first I've heard, and there's a BC pack out with XLoot in it
15:07.03Mikmahaste: http://mikma.reaktio.net/shit.jpg
15:07.23XuerianI'll look, dafire
15:07.44hasteMikma: ookey :p
15:07.57hasteMikma: I raise with http://www.beverpung.net/filer/Jigoku_Shoujo.avi
15:08.10Mikmaeww avi. not going to fall for that
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15:08.39hastehaha
15:08.49hasteIt's from an anime!
15:09.17hasteI don't have anything else to raise with, and it's so imba at the end when the little girl says ippen shindemiru? :D
15:10.27Mikmahaste: but, mine has David Hasselhodd saying "I taste shit."
15:10.32Mikmahasselhoff*
15:10.32hasteMikma: okey, here's a 4chan iamge: http://tunteella.org/4chans/1162975210310901.jpg
15:10.48Mikmagimliiiii!
15:10.57andremarjuck
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15:11.34Mikmahaste: "tunteella.org" = "with a feeling .org"
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15:12.10hastehaha
15:12.18Xueriandamnit, where's ck when you need him.
15:12.35zoktarwho was the errormonster creator?
15:13.21zoktarjust wonderin if hes gonna put it the other msgs "trade completed" etc
15:14.36hastezoktar: based on the notes, I guess not
15:14.51haste## Notes: Filters out some of the annoying error messages during combat as a rogue
15:14.55hastezoktar: the author is vhaarr btw
15:15.01zoktarah k
15:15.11zoktargot all errormsgs in sct messages now
15:15.14zoktarrox
15:15.26hastesounds like a flood
15:15.39zoktarjust the "yellow" messages that still there
15:15.43zoktarna
15:15.48vhaarrhaste: I throttle.
15:15.50zoktaru can set 1 line at a time
15:16.05zoktarpretty sweet to keep ur eyes on whats going on
15:16.08vhaarrzoktar: Check out the aggro option.
15:16.16hasteheh
15:16.26haste[TEMPORARY] Blizzard Scan failed to complete
15:16.28hasteNEED WORDING
15:16.36hasteTBC under Linux ftw
15:17.19zoktaris it "information" ?
15:17.19Mikmaanyone tested iriel's StateActionTests?
15:17.23Mikmait's rather interesting
15:18.26CIA-1703snago * r16354 10ShakeThatThing/: ShakeThatThing: Created folder to commit to
15:18.36[Liquidor]okay back :)
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15:21.05CIA-1703snago * r16355 10ShakeThatThing/ (5 files):
15:21.05CIA-17ShakeThatThing: initial commit
15:21.05CIA-17- Makes the use of a Salt Shaker easy as 1-2-3
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15:22.16CIA-1703rabbit * r16356 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.toc: ErrorMonster: Fix TOC Notes.
15:22.44[Liquidor]Does UIParent:GetWidth() work?
15:23.17eternally777Back
15:23.51Funkeh`wb
15:24.06Frittiso anyway, does anybody know if it is possible to create a new char on the EU test realms?
15:24.16eternally777[Liquidor]: what are you trying to do?
15:24.40FrittiI'd like to test stealth on a rogue but I don't have one myself -- leveling to 6 or so is doable :)
15:24.43eternally777[Liquidor]: If you're trying to make your frame the width of your screen, it's simple.
15:25.11[Liquidor]Okay I need the exact width and height of my screen, that's all. And yet ppl keeps telling me diff ways to do it and they don't even work out very well.
15:26.04CIA-1703snago * r16357 10ShakeThatThing/: ShakeThatThing: Added externals
15:27.06eternally777[Liquidor]: http://ace.pastey.net/2249
15:27.26eternally777Is that what you want to do?
15:27.45eternally777If you simply want the resolution, there's a function for that
15:28.09eternally777If WorldFrame doesn't do what you want, try UIParent
15:28.35SnagoWriting a salt shaker-addon is irritating. Proper testing only once every 3 days :P
15:29.19Xuerian[Liquidor]: There's three things. ScreenWidth/Height, UIParent:GetWidth/Height, WorldFrame:GetWidth/Height. I use UIParent, and it works fine.
15:29.37eternally777Good morning Cairenn.
15:29.45Xueriano/ Cairenn.
15:29.45Cairennmorning
15:29.51SnagoAnyone have a leatherworker with a cooled down salt shaker to test the last drycoded parts for me?
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15:30.34usz[Liquidor], even tho UIParent returns you some value which you might think is not your screen width, it is real width for UI
15:31.48[Liquidor]ye ofc
15:32.08uszstill i guess we all dont know what is your problem with it ^^
15:36.27GrineI'm so poor it's not even funny...
15:36.59CIA-1703mikma 07Nevcairiel * r16358 10DreamChat/DreamChat/textures/ (3 files): DreamChat: New working pushed textures by Mikk
15:38.12CIA-1703xuerian * r16359 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Added overrides to hooks trying to hook secure functions. BEND OVER AND TAKE IT, FUNCTIONS!
15:38.18Xueriandafire: Try this version
15:38.27dafireok i will :)
15:38.42MikmaAKX: new textures! go Mikk!
15:40.53phyberare there any screenshots of DreamChat?
15:41.38Mikmayeah just a sex
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15:42.41Mikmaoh right i already deleted them :)
15:43.45phyberthat just will not do.
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15:45.13dafirexloot is working now (bc)
15:45.42dafireis there a way to get a link to the forum thread from the irc bot ? .9
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15:46.13MikmaAKX: you know what is missing? ability to adjust the size from menu ;)
15:46.36JoshBorkeset channel colors!
15:49.20Mikmabut like akx said, hot stuff
15:49.36Mikmanow i will test relogging and see does it assplode like it did :D
15:50.04[Liquidor]Is this wrong? frame.Menu:SetScript("OnEnter", function() self:TaskBarMenu_OnEnter() end)
15:50.28Mikmashouldn't be
15:50.32Mikmalooks correct
15:50.48[Liquidor]Cause it doesn't work at least, and when using frame: instead it works but with the wrong frame though
15:51.12Mikmawell...
15:51.36Mikmato me it looks like that when you mouseover frame.Menu (what ever it is) it will use YourAddon:TaskBarMenu_OnEnter()
15:51.51[Liquidor]ye but it doesn't :-/
15:52.03usz[Liquidor], did you enable mouse on Menu?
15:52.12[Liquidor]yes
15:52.16[Liquidor]oh
15:52.22[Liquidor]no only frame
15:52.24[Liquidor]thanks
15:52.26usznp
15:53.31[Liquidor]Great, finally done with the taskbar
15:54.00Mikmaphyber: SS coming up
15:54.06Fiskerah
15:54.29Fiskerhow i like people driving cars trying to kill themselves
15:54.42Fiskerjust sucks that they usually kill the other drivers too
15:55.19CIA-1703neriak * r16360 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.lua:
15:55.19CIA-17AH_Wipe:
15:55.19CIA-17- removed double RegisterEvent() .. t'was an accident.
15:55.33Mikmaphyber: http://wow.reaktio.net/DC2.jpg
15:56.16JoshBorkehow do i close query windows in irssi?
15:56.21Mikmause /wc
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15:56.40JoshBorkei have a single window for all queries
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15:56.44Mikma"has left the channel"
15:56.57MikmaJoshBorke: and?
15:58.17abbat_wtriviakiller loaded ;)
15:58.25abbat_wmost usable plugin now i think
15:58.25JoshBorkeit says it is an immortal window
15:58.56AKXJoshBorke, will be an epic fight then ^^
15:59.05Fiskerhmmm
15:59.14Mikmaabbat_w: i modified it not to say the answernumber
15:59.16Fiskerhas there been changes to aceevent so i have to update it?
15:59.17JoshBorkehm, /unquery
15:59.27Mikmaabbat_w: it just says the correct answer now meh
15:59.34[Liquidor]uhm was thinking...
15:59.45MikmaJoshBorke: well then you can't kill it :)
16:00.24abbat_wOn my server trivia now in cyrillic ;(
16:00.30Mikmalol
16:00.45[Liquidor]to make a shorter version of an if statement it should be possible to do Alpha = (Beta and Delta) or Gamma aight? where Delta will be either nil or true.
16:01.19uszyes
16:01.39[Liquidor]Meaning if Delta is true Alpha will be Beta otherwise it'll be Gamma aight?
16:01.55[Liquidor]Super :)
16:01.57MikmaAKX: when my windows are maximized, the texts disappear after a while. when i press minimize the texts pop up
16:02.05AKXYeah
16:02.07MikmaAKX: option to disable the hide please :)
16:02.15haarmDunno who I was talking to yesterday about secureframes, but in TBC, atm even a macro with /cast Mind Flay(Rank 6) as the only line isn't working... what's the deal with that
16:02.31MikmaAKX: since we got this marvelous addon we don't need to hide the texts ;D
16:02.32AKXMikma, will do at some point :D
16:02.37Mikmawe can just minimize! yay!"
16:02.53AKXAnd thanks for the compliments in that screenshot too ;D
16:03.01MikmaAKX: btw DC bugged like hell with me :D guess how i got it working
16:03.11AKXWell?
16:03.15MikmaAKX: np :) it's really REALLY good addon now that i got it workibg
16:03.18Fiskeranyone know why i get this error: [2006/11/08 17:02:40-246]: Modules\Notes.lua:143: attempt to index global "WorldMapDeathRelease" (a nil value)
16:03.18Fisker?
16:03.19Grinehaarm think they added a new function for that
16:03.23Mikmai deleted my DC SV ;)
16:03.37AKXWell yeah, I did some changes with the db structure, I think >_>
16:03.45*** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@12-196-151-240.psknet.net)
16:03.48MikmaAKX: you might wan't to make a databasecheck in the release-version or so
16:03.53AKXOf course
16:04.09Grinethat screenshot made me haooy :)
16:04.11Grinehappy*
16:04.16Mikmathe frames didn't stick to each other and they jumped up and down
16:04.26Mikmabut when i deleted the SV the errors/bugs are gone now
16:04.27tkiefferAnyone else ever have their addons bug where it'll refuse to execute a section of code.
16:04.43tkiefferBut then you go do something stupid like add a debug statement to that section and suddenly it works fine?
16:04.49Xueriandafire: Work for you?
16:04.49AKXMikma, DreamChatDB=nil; ReloadUI(); would've worked as well ;)
16:04.56tkieffer(By stupid I mean stupid simple)
16:05.00tkiefferwtf
16:05.02dafireXuerian: looks goot
16:05.04dafired
16:05.06XuerianGood :)
16:05.23dafirei'm at work so i just killed and looted something.. :9
16:05.31Xuerianlol.
16:05.58eternally777Can I make it so that SciTE displays the actual Korean characters rather than just little boxes?
16:06.14beerkehmmm does ag_unitframes got out of range coloring/fading ?
16:06.30MikmaAKX: yeah true that
16:06.45dafireeternally777: guess you have to get a font that supports them
16:06.58uszbeerke, i have no idea
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16:07.46dafirei installed vista beta once and it could display nearly every characters from all translations :)
16:08.20beerkeusz, i know you don't
16:08.44Industrialbeerke: how would you want to display that on a unitframe
16:08.54Industrialbeerke: it differs per spell
16:08.55MikmaAKX: check out the new gfx for pushed! :D
16:08.59Industrialbeerke: there are addons for that
16:09.09MikmaAKX: and move the damn button to somewhere else :D
16:09.41beerkeIndustrial, well fading out the bars, then depending on the class you can check it's max range, based either on fixed values or reading talent
16:09.50MikmaAKX: and, the whisper-color doesn't match the default one ;)
16:09.59beerkebut in instance you can't measure distances
16:10.02*** join/#wowace Meiun (n=CladaM@c213-89-54-240.bredband.comhem.se)
16:10.09beerkeso you can frankly just check on 40yd
16:10.11AKXMikma, last point: it's on purpose, it's plum
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16:10.31MikmaAKX: well, it's quite.. dark
16:10.37AKXDark.. wtf?
16:11.15Mikmawell i'll SS you're ass
16:12.11MikmaAKX: compare the original and DC whispers: http://wow.reaktio.net/DC3.jpg
16:12.16Industrialbeerke: so use an addon that colours the actionbuttons
16:12.28Industrialextra useless code :P
16:12.50AKXWell yes, Mikma, it's paler. And on purpose. Don't worry, there'll be editable colors in some release soon(ish)
16:12.58MikmaAKX: ok then np
16:13.08AKXMikma, though
16:13.13MikmaAKX: "use original colors" [x]
16:13.28hastehaha
16:13.29AKXDreamChat.messageTypes['whisper'].color="FF00FF"
16:13.33eternally777Does tekSupport still require SupplyAndDemand?
16:13.38hastemy father has started to learn how to use Linux :D
16:13.40beerkeIndustrial, no as that only works on your current target. In case you are a healer you want to know whom is reasonable in range to heal him based on the unitframes
16:13.49XuerianYeah, yacoob?
16:13.56beerkeat least that is what i want as a healer
16:14.12MikmaAKX: and move the damn button xD
16:14.31beerkecause it kinda pisses me off when i try to heal someone and he is out of range sitting at instance entrance and you are trying to find him to heal him
16:14.31MikmaAKX: let's add the Up button in too :)
16:15.07AKXWell Mikma, move it where?
16:15.28MikmaAKX: left side propably
16:15.32Mikmaleft=right
16:15.33Mikmaheh
16:16.06[Liquidor]frame.Menu:RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonUp", "RightButtonUp") - Gives me an error :S attempt to call method `RegisterForClicks' (a nil value) -- How come?
16:16.25*** join/#wowace FtH|eagle (n=eagle@91.89.92.61)
16:16.48eternally777Is frame.Menu a frame?
16:16.58*** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-173.handshake.de)
16:16.59[Liquidor]yup
16:18.15[Liquidor]pastey http://pastey.net/2250
16:20.24Grinetime to try out DreamChat again :)
16:21.19MikmaAKX: what is the function you use to grow DreamChat back up to maximized?
16:21.32AKXEh?
16:21.33eternally777[Liquidor]: ":RegisterForClicks" is a function that only buttons know
16:21.33MikmaAKX: and, minimized
16:21.35AKXThe API function?
16:21.45Mikmayeah
16:22.25haarmhttps://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1102254  <-- appears it broke in the last "minipatch", when slouken fixed the secureframes exploit
16:22.29AKXthat_frame.db.profile.minimized=not that_frame.db.profile.minimized; that_frame:RefreshLayout()
16:22.31haarmsorry "fixed"
16:25.04Industrialbeerke: aUF_RangeCheck
16:25.26GrineAKX/nevcairiel I love this mod thank you :)
16:25.50Industrialwhat mod
16:26.33Grinedreamchat :)
16:27.03Industrialoh k
16:27.29JoshBorkegief us colors!
16:27.35beerkein_der_wueste, ty
16:27.38beerkeoops
16:27.42beerkeIndustrial, ty
16:27.53beerkestupid tab complete ...
16:28.18Fiskerhow do i configure dreamchat?
16:28.19Grinehmmz.. I think I lost a frame :P
16:28.31Grineright click the arrow
16:28.33Fiskergot no arrow :o
16:28.50JoshBorkewhat do the new textures look like? and are we going to get arrows that change when it is to be maximized/minimized?
16:28.54Grinedo you have a dreamchat frame?
16:31.51Fiskernot that i know of
16:32.03Fiskerbut then again
16:32.07Fiskerno addon with D is loaded
16:32.09Fiskerfor some reason
16:32.50Fiskerw ah
16:32.50Fiskerah
16:32.58Fiskerwinace somehow screwed up :P
16:33.38IndustrialMikkWoW: Hows EtchASketch ?:P
16:33.53JoshBorkenon-updated. lol
16:34.53MikmaAKX: enlight me a bit. if i want to change the texture of the toggleButton, what do i have to call? self.Button?
16:35.09Fiskerhmmmm
16:35.14AKXYes
16:35.18Fiskerwinaceupdater has a bug or something
16:35.36XuerianFisker: Saying update complete after DeuceCommander?
16:36.05Fiskeryeah it can't install dreamchat
16:36.06hasteis the TBC branch of Ace2 different in any way?
16:36.12XuerianFisker: Uncheck DeuceCommander
16:36.20Sarozok someone invite me on tempest keep
16:36.22Fiskeri don't have it :)
16:36.26Fiskerit's dreamchat that does it here
16:36.29XuerianFisker: Then uh. er.
16:36.35hasteSaroz: faction?
16:36.39Sarozalliance
16:36.46hastethen I can't help you
16:37.11Industrialhaste: what does oLightsUp do?
16:37.16FiskerBulkMail - Already at rev 12515 - Skipping
16:37.16FiskerCartographer - Already at rev 16310 - Skipping
16:37.16FiskerUpdate complete!
16:37.22XuerianFisker: wowace.com/files/DreamChat ftw
16:37.28XuerianIndustrial: It's a inventory search.
16:37.37Industrialhow?
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16:37.41Industrialsshot?
16:37.41Industrial:P
16:37.49hasteIndustrial: http://refusion.mmorpgs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2387
16:38.08XuerianFisker: Try unchecking Carto? O.0
16:38.19hasteOne of the few places I can be arsed to update topics :p
16:38.26hastesince it uses Textile! <3
16:38.27Industrialhaste: cant login
16:38.29Industrial:P
16:38.34hastelogin?
16:38.42IndustrialYou are not logged in.
16:38.47Fiskernah Xuerian it is dreamchat
16:38.48IndustrialBad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated.
16:39.00XuerianFisker: No clue then. Bug pprovost :p
16:39.06Fiskeri will
16:39.13Fiskeri will even flame him
16:39.19hasteIndustrial: guests have access to that :o
16:39.20Xuerianhaste: Did you make that logo? o.o
16:39.25Industrialhaste: found the thread tho
16:39.28Fiskerprobably something to do with the "[nevcarial]" thing
16:39.28hasteXuerian: no, old guidly did
16:39.34XuerianDamn it's nice >.<
16:39.49hasteI don't do graphics
16:39.52hasteI only code now a day
16:39.55Xuerian:P
16:39.58hastelast graphic thing I did was haste3k.net :p
16:40.08hastewhich I suck at updating
16:40.13hastebut that will change soon :3
16:40.19Xuerianlol, better than me. xuerian.net
16:40.38hastehehe
16:40.44FiskerI want a site
16:40.48hasteI only know how to amke simple sites :(
16:40.54hasteand people don't like simple sites :(
16:40.54Fiskerthat's monitored by our intelligence agencies
16:40.58hastebut I DO! :D:D:D
16:41.06XuerianLoL, simple sites FTW =D
16:41.09eternally777What would be the opposite of "Death by cold"?
16:41.14XuerianWish I had my old one laying around...
16:41.20Amadeoeternally777: Life by Heat
16:41.56eternally777Ok, now think if one intelligent-sounding word that means "Life by heat"
16:41.57XuerianHaste: did you get all those things for your lock in one day? o_0
16:42.11XuerianSEX
16:42.12CIA-1703rabbit * r16361 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.toc: ErrorMonster: Oops :P
16:42.19eternally777Sex doesn't count.
16:42.19hasteXuerian: yes :3
16:42.35CIA-1703otravi * r16362 10/branches/oApplication/ (5 files in 3 dirs): oApplication: TBC Branch, and it works.
16:42.37Xuerianhaste: Most of the locks (and mages.) in my guild would skin you alive, lol
16:42.53Xuerianeternally777: But, but, but
16:42.56hasteXuerian: http://ctprofiles.net/67494 << haven't played it in a while
16:42.56Xuerianeternally777: it always does!
16:43.58CIA-1703lordrhys * r16363 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (6 files): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: updated to Ver. 2.0.1 new Ace2 version
16:44.38eternally777Actually I just need a suffix that is opposite of "-lysis"
16:44.46hasteXuerian: the site isn't very well coded!
16:44.48hasterefusion that is
16:45.15XuerianIt looks good though, which is a damn sight more than you can say for a lot of guild sites
16:45.15MikmaAKX: well i tried to make the texturechange. seems that i'm too tired to get it to work properly :)
16:45.24AKXYes. Get some sleep.
16:45.33hasteXuerian: I don't like the forum template either
16:45.51XuerianWell, to be fair I only looked at the link :P
16:46.01XuerianEhh, it's nto that bad :p
16:46.26XuerianNever could be arsed to modify my templates that much either.
16:47.06hastepunbb uses CSS
16:47.12hasteso it's pretty awesome when it comes to templates
16:47.18XuerianOooo...
16:47.29Mikmai slept 3h last night, yipee :D
16:48.14hasteMikma: I do that all the time
16:48.26Mikmawell i'm not a machine like you are. sex machine!
16:48.37XuerianHhmmm, yes better than most I've seen. I'm still looking for a forum system with templates built around <div>'s, mysteriously lacking tables :p
16:48.39deci:o
16:49.36Xuerianhaste: Amazingly clean source though. Damn o_0
16:50.08hasteXuerian: take a look at haste3k's
16:50.23hasterefusion site was done by my old guild leader, and he tried to adapt my coding style :p
16:50.31XuerianYou build sites like I do :p
16:50.45hasteThere's is on error on haste3k.net
16:50.51hasteit doesn't follow the document structrue
16:50.59hasteI use h3 instead of h2 somewhere
16:51.20CIA-1703rabbit * r16364 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.toc: ClosetGnome: Add forum post ID to the TOC.
16:51.34XuerianI never did get around to using headings properly.
16:51.48XuerianThen again I'm a floating layout addict.
16:52.07IndustrialI like fixed layouts
16:52.13Industrialbut, like 50-600px wide
16:52.15Industrialcentered
16:52.16Industrial:P
16:52.18Xuerian:P
16:52.19Industrial500-600*
16:52.24Snagohow do i make forum links in the wiki?
16:52.30hastehaste3k has a pretty non-default layout
16:52.42Industrialyes, i agree, flating layouts are Better (tm)
16:52.44hastebut it's correct in how it looks in the XHTML
16:52.45Industrialfloating*
16:53.16MikkWoWgawd. wednesday afternoon.
16:53.24XuerianMikkWoW: Mm?
16:53.39MikkWoWwhy is kalimdor lagging? shouldn't people be off in instances now?
16:55.14CIA-1703lordrhys * r16365 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/: FuBar_FactionItemsFu: fixed Externals folder name error
16:55.27Xuerianhaste: Looks good to me. <3 css..... Can't wait till it's properly adopted (Just like I said last year, the year before, and the year before that...etc)
16:55.38Xuerian(en-masse)
16:55.56hasteI've used CSS for the last two years
16:56.12hasteonly problem now is that I don't have Windows anymore, so I can't check if it works in IE
16:56.29hasteso I decided to just stop creating web pages :D
16:56.34XuerianOf course. It's just wondering if it'll work in the browser from hell or not that's the problem. Then again, if you don't care.... well heh
16:56.37ElkanoQ: Is TBC pruning it's WDB files on every start/logout?
16:56.58Xuerianhaste: lol.
16:58.03hasteYou can't do PickupInventoryItem in combat in TBC?
16:58.07deciis dreamchat just a really minimalistic chat window?
16:58.15JoshBorkedeci: yes
16:58.27decisweet, ill have to try it out
16:58.29JoshBorkehaste: automation?
16:58.50hasteJoshBorke: slightly
16:58.55tkiefferI'm stuck. Anyone seen this?
16:58.59tkiefferif tonumber(itemSS) >= tonumber(num) then
16:59.10tkiefferisn't working when itemSS is 20 and num is 5
16:59.15hasteI just use a click to apply it poisons to weapons
16:59.19tkiefferWhat am I missing?
16:59.34Xueriantkieffer: If they're already numbers why are you using tonumber? o_0
16:59.40tkiefferThey're not.
16:59.46hasteJoshBorke: http://www.beverpung.net/images/addons/oApplication/oApplication.jpg << like that ;D
16:59.46tkiefferOr rather... not necessarily.
16:59.56tkiefferI put in the tonumber to try and see if it was a type mismatch.
16:59.57CIA-1703mikma 07Nevcairiel * r16366 10DreamChat/DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua: DreamChat: Added a horrible Texture-swap for minimized/maximized window. Sorry AKX don't kill me :)
17:00.07tkiefferBut even if they're forced to numeric it won't enter the if clause.
17:00.12tkiefferIt's bizarre.
17:00.39Elkanowhat's wrong with this line of code wrt TBC? local _, _, itemID = string.find(itemlink, "|c%x+|H(item:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)|h%[.-%]|h|r")
17:00.56Xuerianif itemSS >= num then self:Print("greater/equal") end doesn't do anything? 0_o
17:01.33tkiefferLet me put that in and test.
17:01.34tkieffersec
17:01.40MikmaAKX: ARGH what's that little dot in topleft!!! it makes my windows undock :P
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17:02.17decihmm, seems the dreamchat window is off the bottom of my screen, how can i drag it? or can i not?
17:02.20tkiefferwtf
17:02.22tkiefferthat's working.
17:02.37Mikmadeci: there's a large blue area in topleft which can be used for dragging
17:02.54Mikmadeci: but there is also a little blue area which makes the window jump back down :P
17:02.58hasteJoshBorke: would it work if I inject it as a chat command?
17:03.20tkiefferDoes <= not work in wow lua?
17:03.23Industrialwhats the CharacterInfo addon supposed to do? (by wmrojer)
17:03.23tkiefferBut >= does?
17:03.24decioh, silly me i was trying everything like shift/ctrl/alt +left/right clicks didnt even notice the little blue box haha
17:03.49tkiefferOriginally my code was num <= itemSS but that failed so I forced type to num to try.
17:04.12Mikmaoh right, there seems to be a small box on every corner of the DreamChat
17:04.28LaricXuerian is xloot working in tbc?
17:04.40JoshBorketkieffer: works here
17:04.47XuerianLaric: Seemed to have a earlier, which I seemed to have fixed.... It's in a BC pack someone else made, it should work
17:05.01Xuerians/ a / a error /
17:05.05Xuerianblah
17:05.11Xuerianthere we go. no blah XD
17:05.12Laricah nice
17:05.15deciyea it works
17:05.22JoshBorketkieffer: make sure your itemSS is actually a number (as is num)
17:05.30Laricstd loot window isnt nearly as nice
17:05.33tkiefferwell
17:05.35tkiefferthat's just it.
17:05.47tkiefferI did tonumber(num) and tonumber(itemSS)
17:06.08malrethif tonumber cannot convert to a number, it returns nil
17:06.09tkiefferBoth at variable declaration, then on a separate line, then as part of the if statement.
17:06.20tkiefferHmm.
17:06.30malrethtkieffer: an explicit tonumber isn't usually necessary
17:06.35XuerianLaric: =)
17:06.54tkiefferYea. I don't get it but it's working as itemSS >= num with no tonumber() anywhere.
17:06.55malrethtkieffer: you have a bug somewhere, most likely. hop to it.
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17:07.49malrethpaste your error that you're getting when you use <=
17:08.03malreththe exact error and line no
17:08.19tkiefferNo error.
17:08.28tkiefferIt just fails to evaluate the if statement as true.
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17:10.00kergoth>= and <= work just fine, there's something wrong with your code.  break it out into a small test case
17:10.22ggilbert_Adrine_: morning.
17:10.30Adrine_Heyas.
17:10.45Adrine_Didn't know you hung out here!
17:10.47malrethtkieffer: feel free to pastey it and link it here
17:11.01Vallerius_workmorning, all
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17:12.43Vallerius_workmikma: i sent a bunch of DC changes to nev last night. you want me to fire them your way too?
17:13.17MikmaVallerius_work: umm, i'm not sure about that one since AKX is doing the changes now :)
17:13.37Vallerius_workMikma: orly?
17:14.16MikmaVallerius_work: yarly :) nev did the frame, AKX has coded all the rest there has been lately
17:14.41AKXYes, because I'm so leet.
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17:15.06Elkanooh, the changed the item links...
17:15.08Vallerius_workwell then. akx: i sent a bunch of DC changes to nev last night. you want me to fire them your way too?
17:15.14tkieffererr.
17:15.20tkiefferI can't remember the pasty url
17:15.21AKXIf you want Vallerius_work
17:15.23tkiefferace.pasty.com?
17:15.26Xuerianace.pastey.net
17:15.30Xuerianer.com
17:15.33Xuerianno net
17:15.35Gngsknet
17:15.35malrethit's in the channel topic
17:15.36Xuerian:p
17:15.42tkieffer<PROTECTED>
17:15.44[Liquidor]Hephey Xuerian :)
17:15.49XuerianYeah! What malreth said.
17:15.59Xuerian[Liquidor]: o.o
17:16.08[Liquidor]?
17:16.18XuerianNot entirely sure.
17:16.27[Liquidor]I'm halfway to complete my taskbar since I started onverting from xml to lua
17:16.42tkiefferhttp://ace.pastey.net/2252
17:16.42XuerianNice :P
17:16.51tkiefferProblem lines are 44 and 53
17:17.00Mikma[Liquidor]: what are you doing then?
17:17.02Vallerius_workakx: http://homepage.usask.ca/~rss050/mods/DreamChat.zip - didn't make a diff because there's some pretty substantial changes and you've likely done a bunch locally by now.
17:17.32AKXOK. Btw, what is the name of the normal chat edit box?
17:17.49malrethFred
17:17.53[Liquidor]brb Mikma need to reboot
17:18.00[Liquidor]I'll show you a Screenshot
17:18.04Vallerius_workoff the top of my head, ChatFrameEditBox. It's in ChatFrame.xml, whatever it is
17:18.08MikmaChatFrameEditBox
17:18.22AKXwell Vallerius_work, I already have stacking implemented by way of normal anchors
17:20.23MikmaAKX: try my megacool textureswap-update
17:20.30Mikmai bet you'll change it asap :D
17:22.04Adrine_Heh, Greg, you there?
17:22.13Adrine__ggilbert_, rather, I guess
17:22.23ggilbert_Si
17:22.30Adrine__I guess Yorex got a random beta invite last night
17:22.40Adrine__Meanwhile, Travelocity continues to plague my inbox with spam.
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17:25.58[Liquidor]Mikma: http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4548/taskbaril2.jpg - but still missing a LOT of design converted from my xml file so it's just the basic you see
17:26.05[Liquidor]files*
17:26.29Mikmaok then
17:26.50Mikmanot bad for starters
17:26.52[Liquidor]Uhm to your question: I'm creating a windows shell :)
17:27.10Industrialexplorer.
17:27.25Xueriano.0
17:27.51Mikmac'mon
17:28.01CIA-1703jerry * r16367 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_VolumeFu : Added french translation
17:28.08Mikmasomeone do a neat actionbutton addon that i can copy lol
17:28.45Fiskeranyone with a nvidia card and tbc?
17:29.00Xuerianlol, certainly a unique idea. Looks good so far, [Liquidor] =)
17:30.19deciFisker: yes
17:30.21[Liquidor]doesn't look as good as my original one, still missing bordes and fonts converted
17:30.29Mikmawell anyway
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17:30.34Vallerius_workakx: bah, looks like i missed a couple of your updates over the weekend  : /
17:30.43Mikmai'm kinda pleased at my DC -textureswap lol
17:30.50CIA-1703jerry * r16368 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu : Added french translation
17:31.22XuerianSs or it....
17:31.40Xueriandidn't happen?
17:31.54Mikmawell try it
17:32.14CIA-1703xuerian * r16369 10XLoot/ (XLoot.lua XLoot.toc localization.enUS.lua): XLoot: Support for Skinner ZOMG FORKING BITCHES WTF /mumble
17:32.21AdrineQuestion re: AceHook
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17:32.40XuerianAdrine o.0
17:33.02AdrineI on'y had a brief moment to play with it last night before I had to call it a night, but I can use AceHook to hook things like GameTooltip:SetBagItem, yes?
17:33.25AdrineI was trying something like self:Hook(GameTooltip, "SetBagItem"), and then had a MyObjectName:SetBagItem() function, but it didn't appear to fire.
17:34.08AdrineAm I doing that right?
17:34.12XuerianGameTooltip.SetBagItem ?
17:34.26Elkanook, found another API change I didn't know about... GetItemInfo now returns a full chat link instead of only item:x:x:x:x
17:34.40AdrineIt's been that way for a while now, hasn't it?
17:35.09NerD`Hey, is there anyway to center fubar options ?
17:35.09CIA-1703jerry * r16370 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu : Fixed french translation
17:35.17NerD`I mean sound / hour etc ..
17:35.29XuerianYou mean the foobar plugins?
17:35.31AdrineYou mean as an end-user?
17:35.44AdrineI'm pretty sure that each FuBar plugin has an alignment option in the menus somewhere
17:35.55[Liquidor]Elkano: you can just gsub the data you need from getiteminfo
17:36.03NerD`I haven't see something like taht :(
17:36.25NerD`When i want to move a thing, it'll always go near the last left thing :-
17:36.27XuerianAdrine: You were hooking it right, apparently
17:36.33CIA-1703jerry * r16371 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFuLocals-frFR.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu : Fixed french translation
17:36.53[Liquidor]Elkano: ItemId = string.gsub(link,".-\124H([^\124]*)\124h.*", "%1")
17:36.57XuerianNerD`: Right click it?
17:37.03XuerianPosition-> Center...
17:37.09NerD`3 sec
17:37.40Elkano[Liquidor], I know, I simply didn't know they changed it and wondered why things weren't working anymore ^^
17:37.48[Liquidor]:)
17:38.20NerD`Ok so i'm dumb, thanks Xuerian o_O
17:38.22[Liquidor]because of the itemlink hooking-fix
17:38.40XuerianNerD`: Don't be too hard on yourself XD
17:38.40CIA-1703jerry * r16372 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/ItemBonusesFu_Locale_frFR.lua: FuBar_ItemBonusesFu : Added french translation
17:38.47[Liquidor]yeah don't
17:38.51[Liquidor]Xuerian: is dumb as well
17:39.00Xuerian~whalenutshot [Liquidor]
17:39.09purlACTION smashes [Liquidor] in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo
17:39.10[Liquidor]gogo purl
17:39.19AdrinePurl's a bit slow on the draw today.
17:39.30[Liquidor]been slow for a while
17:39.30Xuerian~console [Liquidor]
17:39.32purlACTION gives [Liquidor] the consolation moose
17:39.36Xuerian:3
17:39.38[Liquidor]same with CIA I belive
17:40.05MikmaAKX: argh! try clicking on the borter anywhere and see what happens
17:40.13XuerianAw, so cute.
17:40.29AKXMikma, it leaps?
17:40.38MikmaAKX: yeah, bottomleft corner
17:40.45AKXYep. Known bug
17:41.01Mikmathat's like... annoying
17:41.16CIA-1703jerry * r16373 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_LocationFu : Fixed french translation
17:41.20[Liquidor]Possible to change teh cursor?
17:41.39[Liquidor]Either prefixed icons or maybe externals?
17:42.28CIA-1703jerry * r16374 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu : Added french translation
17:43.38AdrineThe mouse cursor?
17:43.41NerD`One more thing, maybe someone know that, why sometime, my SimpleCombatLog just dissapear :( ?
17:43.43AdrineI do believe so
17:44.05Xuerianhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Cursor_Functions
17:44.38AdrineSpecifically, SetCursor() and ResetCursor()
17:45.00CIA-1703jerry * r16375 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_RegenLocal-frFR.lua: FuBar_RegenFu : fixed french translation
17:48.29Elkanook, ItemDB seems to be fixed :)
17:48.40CIA-1703saroz * r16376 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu: Fixed playerMaxMP nil error because it wasn't correctly updated when zoning
17:52.18NerD`With Live Closet Gnome, can i bind key to set ? :x
17:52.43NerD`+equip before set )
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17:54.17CIA-1703mikma 07Nevcairiel * r16377 10DreamChat/DreamChat/DreamChat.xml: DreamChat: Cleanup for textures
17:56.13MikmaAKX: can't you make the DreamChat to check the long lines and cut the rest of that message and replace it with ... ?
17:56.28AKXNot very easily
17:56.45AKXMake that "not trivially"
17:57.08CIA-1703phyber * r16378 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
17:57.08CIA-17Fizzle:
17:57.08CIA-17- Check for version before calling original function.
17:57.11Mikmawell i think it is needed after all, it looks ugly when the lines assplode
17:58.29CIA-1703phyber * r16379 10IDCard/IDCard.lua:
17:58.29CIA-17IDCard:
17:58.29CIA-17- Worthless typo, your friends shall join you soon enough!
18:00.03NerD`Aaaaaaaaaaaaah my eyes ! Squenix is covering all of my screen Y.Y why :-(
18:00.24XuerianIt doesn't like you.
18:00.41AdrineHahahahah. That's an awesome commit message.
18:01.17NerD`I know addon hate me :(
18:01.23NerD`Thanks anyway )
18:02.23NerD`Ok conflict with squenix & CleanMinimap )
18:02.34malrethNaughty secrets!
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18:03.07MikmaAKX: what's the situation with ChatFrame1? any ideas what to do with that? :)
18:03.30sbuMikma: dreamchat yet usable? ;p
18:03.36Mikmasbu: yes it actually is
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18:03.40sbuoh
18:03.44Mikmaand this time i'm not even lying
18:03.55sbuheh ;)
18:04.06Mikmaremember, rightclick on the minimize/maximize-button to configure/create new frames
18:04.19Mikmaand topleft to move the chats around screen
18:04.26AKXAnd bear with bugs
18:04.37MikmaAKX: HOLY CRAP! Chatlinks work from DC: D
18:04.38Mikma:D
18:04.45AKXOf course they do ^^
18:05.01sbu*testing*
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18:06.55sbuMikma: uhm - nev branch?
18:07.06Mikmasbu: aye
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18:07.49AKXCute disconnect on the Tempest Keep
18:07.57AKX*-the
18:08.00phyberugh.
18:08.11phyberthis SecureHook thing makes Denial horrible to use :/
18:08.29phybersince I have to execute things after the frame is shown, you get a small delay in waiting for it to skip stuff.
18:08.51phyberand doing an insecure hook makes vendors and stuff not work :(
18:09.07phyberoh, wiat.  I got disconnected.  maybe it was teh lag!
18:09.55MikmaAKX: are you playing with horde or alliance there?
18:10.00AKXBoth
18:10.05Mikmaok then
18:10.06AKXI just joined CastSpell ;)
18:10.09Mikmaneat
18:10.16Mikmathen i must come in and poke you
18:10.22AKXDo so
18:10.29sbuMikma: and how do i move that minimize button? :P
18:10.31vhaarrphyber: You don't have to SecureHook, you can taint it by using regular Hook(..., true).
18:10.42AKXMy soft, pliant draenei shaman flesh craves poking, Mikma. :P
18:10.44Mikmasbu: the button ain't movable
18:11.02phybervhaarr: yeah.  I was tainting it.  but the lag made me thing it wasn't working ;)
18:11.13sbuwhooh, uber minimize-animation
18:11.42sbuMikma: and chatboxes are moveable?
18:11.56Mikmasbu: topleft corner, the BIG blue spot
18:12.04Mikmadon't touch the little ones / border
18:12.25sbuthere is no blue spot ;p
18:12.27phybersweet, it works.
18:12.32sbuah
18:12.34sbuok there is
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18:13.08NeronixMegaman X8 rocks
18:13.09sbuhey, i like the little ones - why no touching?
18:13.11XuerianI wish there was a way to manually set the max bandwith for cfosspeed >_<
18:13.17Neronixsolely because it has an easy mode for nublets like me
18:13.22Neronixno... not solely
18:13.32NeronixIt's also because it runs like a dream on this shitty, shitty computer
18:13.35CIA-1703xuerian * r16380 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Fixed ItemButton skinning, modified skinning routines. Proper skinning looks hot. Rawr.
18:13.54NeronixJust needs widescreen modes
18:14.31Icerothhmh, what's this WorldMapDeathRelease frame cartographer tries to set script?
18:14.35CIA-1703phyber * r16381 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
18:14.35CIA-17Denial2:
18:14.36CIA-17- Removed version checking on calling the original function.
18:14.36CIA-17- We now taint the execution line, because we're evil. Bwahahaha.
18:14.40CIA-1703xuerian * r16382 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Proper skinning. Rawr.
18:15.01Xuerianphyber: Tainting ftw.
18:15.18sbuMikma: hm ok, i still have to use the standard chatbox for chat-input?
18:15.33NeronixAnd thirdly, you can aim shots with that new guy
18:15.50Mikmasbu: I got a feeling that you don't have to do it for long ;)
18:15.54XuerianAiming shots? In megaman? TRAVESTY
18:16.17NeronixYou have to stand still to do it
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18:16.27sbuMikma: uhm - coding at this atm? :p
18:16.27NeronixAnd you can only do it when playing as Zxl
18:16.29Neronix*Axl
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18:24.19Mikmahi boss
18:24.29IndustrialWowAceUpdater isnt fetching DreamChat
18:24.38Fisker^^
18:24.47Xuerian./wave ckknight
18:25.01Fiskerbtw ckknight
18:25.09Fiskeri get an error on line 143 of notes.lua in modules
18:25.10FiskerO_o
18:25.13Fiskerwith cartographer
18:25.33Icerothckknight, what's that WorldMapDeathRelease frame cartographer's notes module wishes to set script to? i don't have such frame :s
18:25.39kebinusan~whaleambush ckknight
18:25.41purlACTION ambushes ckknight with Giovanni, a whale that's a bit too big to be a dagger
18:26.21MikmaIndustrial: it's branched, might be because of that?
18:26.37Fiskerprobably that
18:26.42Fiskerit says [Nevcariel] in the end
18:26.46Fiskerwhich it might not like
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18:27.18AmadeoIceroth: This? Modules\Notes.lua:143: attempt to index global "WorldMapDeathRelease" (a nil value)
18:27.19Amadeohehe
18:27.25Icerothyep
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18:27.34AmadeoI dunno!
18:27.36Industrialomfg
18:27.39Fiskersame here
18:27.41Industrialprops dreamchath authors
18:27.49Fiskeryeah looks nice
18:27.54Industrialownage!!111234
18:28.23Fiskerjust get the menu problem with it closing constantly :/
18:28.25Fiskerpretty annoying
18:28.28Fiskercan't set anything
18:28.31Mikmaomg omg
18:28.40Mikmaindu likes something not made by him!
18:28.53Kyahx:O
18:29.10ckknight_Amadeo, odd... may be just a TBC thing.
18:29.20IndustrialMikma: yah srsly
18:29.41IndustrialFisker: what closing?
18:29.45Fiskerthe menu
18:30.01Mikmait's dewdrops "feature" :P
18:30.03Fiskerother addons do it too though
18:30.04Fisker:
18:30.05Fisker:/
18:30.05Fiskerah
18:31.41Industrialquestion though
18:31.50Industrialwhere am i going to put my editbox now
18:31.51Industrial:P
18:32.47sbumh mikma
18:32.51sburestoring hidden frames?
18:33.07nevcairieldoes anyone know if there is a actionbar addon with working stanceswap for TBC yet?
18:33.28Mikmasbu: not in atm
18:33.33sbuoops ;p
18:33.34sbuok
18:33.42Mikmanevcairiel: Iriel does! he made the whole thing :P
18:34.50Industrialhttp://content.imagesocket.com/images/WoWScrnShot_110806_19330122f.jpg
18:34.53IndustrialI right clicked
18:34.57Industriala frame
18:35.00Industrialand they all stacked
18:35.14Industrials/he/she/
18:35.18Industriallol
18:35.22Industrial@ mikma
18:35.24MikmaIndustrial: bug. AKX admitted it
18:35.28Industrialok
18:35.34Mikma~lozareth
18:35.35purlA man who developed a popular package of addons that offers unrivalled customizability at the cost of memory - http://www.discordmods.com
18:35.37CIA-1703rabbit * r16383 10BugSack/BugSackFu.lua: BugSack: Since FBP-2.0 for some reason calls :UpdateDisplay before OnEnable, we have to initialize stuff early ... ><
18:35.46Mikma~emulate lozareth
18:35.47purlI got mem so why not use it
18:36.52sbuMikma: wow builtin emotes not working yet i guess ;o
18:37.04Mikmasbu: hmm they should
18:37.12Mikmahaven't tested tho :)
18:37.17sbunope :)
18:37.18IndustrialI also dont really like that DreamChat alters the chat text
18:37.41MikmaIndustrial: it's a good thing is only an alphabetagamma version ;)
18:37.57Industrialer, I mean, ill need to patch it to show like I have my chatframe
18:37.59Industrial:P
18:38.01NeronixWho changed it?
18:38.02Neronix>(
18:38.06Neronix~factinfo Lozareth
18:38.06purllozareth -- last modified at Sat Sep 16 22:53:23 2006 by Cide!i=Cide@81-226-233-5-no60.tbcn.telia.com; it has been requested 7 times, last by Mikma, 2m 31s ago.
18:38.40sbuIndustrial: alters chat text?
18:38.44ckknightback
18:38.49Mikmayeah it does, abit
18:39.09Mikmanot the text you say but the channelnames etc
18:39.13Neronixpurl, no, lozareth is <reply>The Boogeyman A.K.A the man who eat all your RAM and fed it to vampire puppies
18:39.14purlokay, Neronix
18:39.17IndustrialChannel #1 [Industrial] 123 321
18:39.20cncfanaticsyo all, back :)
18:39.23Neronixat least it went something like that...
18:39.35IndustrialI have "00:00 1 Industrial: 123 321"
18:39.35Industrialatm
18:39.41eternally777s/eat/ate/
18:39.47eternally777err
18:39.57eternally777Yeah
18:40.02eternally777Your tenses were a bit messed up
18:40.26MikmaNeronix: nice touch, whaleman
18:41.04ckknightNeronix, that's not right.
18:41.19ckknightpurl, no, lozareth is <reply>A man who developed a popular package of addons that offers unrivalled customizability at the cost of memory - http://www.discordmods.com
18:41.20purlckknight: okay
18:41.27Neronix>.>
18:42.14eternally777~ckknight
18:42.17purlrumour has it, ckknight is awesome
18:42.26eternally777o.O
18:42.30ckknightlol
18:42.31ckknightit's true.
18:42.37cncfanatics~cncfanatics
18:42.38purlasshat
18:42.41cncfanaticshaha
18:42.42ckknightlol.
18:42.43eternally777rofl
18:42.50cncfanaticssomeone loves me :o
18:42.53Neronixlol
18:43.40Elkanodoes RosterLib work with TBC?
18:43.47vhaarryes
18:43.53Elkano~elkano
18:44.08Elkanonothing? well, fits me ^^
18:44.45IcerothDCard\IDCard.lua:72: attempt to call field "SetHyperlink" (a nil value) IDCard\IDCard.lua:72: in function <Interface\AddOns\IDCard\IDCard.lua:59>
18:49.11cncfanaticspurl, no, cncfanatics is <reply>FlexBar developer
18:49.13purlokay, cncfanatics
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18:49.16cncfanaticsbetter :p
18:51.21nevcairielcncfanatics: do you have swapping of bars on stance-change working already?
18:51.21cncfanaticsn
18:51.21cncfanaticsno*
18:51.21Mikmanevcairiel: STFU and join TBC
18:51.21cncfanaticsdidn't rly keep my busy with secure stuff yet
18:51.21Mikmathere is a wise man in CastSpell atm
18:51.21sbu[2006/11/08 19:49:56-36]: Fizzle\Core.lua:157: attempt to call field "CharacterFrame_OnShow" (a nil value)
18:51.21nevcairielwho?
18:51.22Mikmameldi*something*
18:51.22Mikmahe seems to know alot of the securetemaplates and stuff
18:51.22nevcairieland i am not in castspell, some other guild
18:51.22AdrineMeldivh? *dodges thrown things*
18:51.29Mikmanevcairiel: /gquit and /who castspell
18:51.42MikmaLOL we have a nice tabard
18:51.48Mikmablack with cogwheels on it
18:52.04MikmaAngeris: nope
18:52.05AdrineI'd have made it the crying bear!
18:52.09MikmaAdrine: nope :P
18:52.11MikmaAngeris: mt
18:52.14cncfanaticswtb slouken or iriel on this chan
18:52.31cncfanaticsboth shld get on IRC sometimes -.-
18:52.36Mikmackknight: use /invite iriel ;)
18:52.46ckknightIriel doesn't come to #wowace :-(
18:52.56Industrialwhy not
18:53.01Mikmahe hates us!
18:53.02ckknightfunny, since we're like 50% larger than #wowi-lounge
18:53.05IndustrialMikma: SHE
18:53.09Mikmashe?
18:53.10nevcairieliriel is on #wowi-lounge tho
18:53.19Mikmayou kidding me?
18:53.21Industrialno
18:53.26Industrialask her
18:53.28Mikmalive and learn
18:53.29Industrial:p
18:53.36sbumhhh w/ loaded cartographer some other addons stop loading :o
18:53.40Mikmai don't want to, i already made fool of myself, again
18:53.47ckknightsbu, I think it's an error.
18:53.55cncfanaticsiriel ain't on wowi-lounge atm -.-
18:54.14nevcairielwell, away
18:54.14cncfanaticsoh, he is, but on away :p
18:54.14cncfanaticswhat hours he usualy online ?
18:54.17axxoaye, just got error with carto aswel
18:54.22Mikmacncfanatics: <2053> <Industrial> Mikma: SHE
18:54.29ckknightIriel's a female?
18:54.30cncfanaticsshe/he whatever
18:54.41Mikmackknight: atleast that's what Industrial is telling me
18:54.54Fiskerhawt!
18:55.01cncfanaticslol ckknight
18:56.02nevcairielhah, my GF told me she joined a guild on the beta servers, and i ended up in slackjawed daffodils
18:57.09Mikmanevcairiel: /gquit and join CastSpell :)
18:57.51kergothiriel isnt a she.. just has a female avatar ont he forums is all
18:57.54cncfanaticsMikma, what are u blabling about ? -.
18:58.06MoonWolfare there any eu tbc mod guilds ?
18:58.15Mikmacncfanatics: what?
18:58.35ckknightMoonWolf, yes, CastSpell and TargetUnit
18:58.39nevcairielso who can invite?
18:58.40MikmaMoonWolf: CastSpell, Alliance, and TargetUnit, Horde on Tempest Keep
18:58.44MoonWolfaha
18:58.48ckknightkergoth, Iriel has a raptor on the forums.
18:58.50MoonWolfill be there soon
18:58.52Mikmanevcairiel: use /who castspell and see the "meld" or so
18:59.13nevcairielthere is no meld* :)
18:59.20Mikmayeah iriel has the moving raptor
18:59.27Mikmanevcairiel: well it starts with M and it's not Mikma
18:59.35MoonWolfwtf
18:59.55MoonWolfhow many times does the char copy page have to access test.worldofwarcraft.com
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19:00.29cncfanaticswtb lvl 60 premades for all classes in tbc
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19:01.29sbuneeed keyy
19:01.30ckknightI argee, cncfanatics
19:01.36cncfanaticsdamn anoying
19:01.37ckknightagree*
19:01.46cncfanaticsI only got a 60 mage, so can't test stances easely except rogue stealth
19:01.54nevcairielanyone in CastSpell right now i can bug for an invite?
19:01.56ckknightIriel's a guy.
19:01.58AmadeoStill no WoWI key here
19:02.53cncfanaticsbleh, think i'll make an ally char to join CastSpell
19:02.56cncfanaticshorde is deserted
19:03.15MoonWolfthe damn char copy page takes ages to open
19:03.16Mikmanevcairiel: "mal.." :P
19:03.18MoonWolfis that normal ??
19:03.23nevcairielmake a druid and level to 10
19:03.30Mikmaor rogue
19:03.33cncfanaticsrogue to 2 is easyer nevcairiel :p
19:03.34Mikmaand level it to 2 ;)
19:03.36cncfanaticsand already did that
19:03.44cncfanaticsstill handyer to test at 60
19:03.50Mikmanevcairiel: charname?
19:04.14ckknightdraenei can't be rogues, cncfanatics :-P
19:04.15ckknighthehe
19:04.25AmadeoCan Draenei be Hunters?
19:04.31ckknightyes
19:04.34AmadeoThey'll be strong
19:04.47CIA-1703rabbit * r16384 10BugSack/ (10 files): BugSack: Set svn:eol-style, svn:keywords and update license to point to #wowace.
19:04.52MikmaMaldiviah
19:04.58Mikmathat's the guildmaster of CastSpell
19:05.01Mikmawhisper him for invite
19:05.08Mikmaor Kirkburn when he's online
19:05.55AmadeoLooks like the Nvidia G80 came out
19:06.35Amadeoand it's BIG
19:06.40AdrineI'm gonna say Belf huntes will be stronger. Racial silence is big.
19:06.53Amadeoeh
19:06.58AmadeoWarstomp is better than that for a Hunter
19:07.03Amadeosame thing
19:07.09Amadeobut does more, and easier to do
19:07.09CIA-1703eternally777 * r16385 10SacredBuff/SacredBuff.toc:
19:07.09CIA-17SacredBuff:
19:07.09CIA-17* Poking to update TOC data
19:07.21Amadeoprobably a shorter cooldown too
19:07.26AdrineSilence's range is bigger than Warstomp, isn't it?
19:07.34AmadeoI think it's just 8 yards
19:07.38AmadeoAE
19:07.46Amadeounless it changed
19:08.10Mikmackknight: what do you think.. let's do a ~wowaceinfo and put THAT in topic instead of all those urls :)
19:08.20Amadeoyeah, it's 8
19:08.36Mikma./topic use "/msg purl ~wowaceinfo"
19:08.46ckknightput what in the topic?
19:08.53AmadeoArcane Torrent is severely overpowered for Rogues though
19:08.55Mikmai just said it hehe :)
19:09.04Mikmaso the topic doesn't have to be n+1 chars long
19:09.05ckknightwhat goes in ~wowaceinfo, then?
19:09.21[Cu]WerikEvening
19:09.23Mikmathe *WHOLE* thing in topic
19:09.24ckknighthey [Cu]Werik
19:09.29ckknightnah, Mikma
19:09.52Mikmai hate long topics :(
19:09.59ElkanoMikma, you worked on Prat for TBC, didn't you?
19:10.10MikmaElkano: well, no haven't done anything yet :)
19:10.22Mikmai was gonna but then i got to go back to school
19:10.38Elkanoah, k
19:10.45CIA-1703ckknight * r16386 10Cartographer/Modules/Notes.lua: Cartographer-Notes - fixed issue with vanilla WoWers. Editing notes is now fixed.
19:10.46Sroshnoone reads the topic anyway and even less would make use of that command
19:11.05Amadeockknight: Oh so I'm vanilla now?
19:11.15ckknightvanilla is non-TBC
19:11.22AmadeoYou think I have no flavor, huh?!
19:11.23vhaarrckknight: any thoughts about adding AceEvent fires to AceAddon and AceModuleCore when enabling/disabling addons/modules?
19:11.26ckknightTBC is like sprinkles.
19:11.29Amadeohaha
19:11.31Amadeorainbow?
19:11.32Mikmahah
19:11.38ckknightvhaarr, hrm...
19:11.48ZiconMmm, vanilla.
19:11.55ckknightvhaarr, that's actually part of AceDB as well...
19:12.00vhaarrckknight: indeed
19:12.05ckknightmaybe
19:12.10ckknightI wouldn't say it's a bad idea.
19:12.26vhaarrexcellent
19:12.37ckknightCartographer shouldn't error for vanilla players, though now.
19:12.49ckknightvhaarr, mmm... make a patch :-P
19:12.56vhaarrbah
19:13.02vhaarr~whalecrit vhaarr
19:13.04purlACTION crits vhaarr with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. vhaarr dies
19:13.04AmadeoSeems that the Nvidia G80 is a huge jump in performance
19:13.08Amadeobet it costs a pretty penny
19:13.23tkiefferHas anyone successfully used SplitContainerItem?
19:13.35tkiefferIt keeps picking up a full stack for me.
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19:13.57tkiefferSplitContainerItem(slotSource[1], slotSource[2], 5)
19:13.58vhaarrckknight: I'll make a patch if you start working on the AceAddon/AceComm/AceConsole marriage ^^
19:14.04tkiefferIt picks up the stack, not 5 of that item.
19:14.13Amadeooof, $600
19:14.14Mikmawe wan't AceSnoop
19:14.15ckknightvhaarr, now that's a complicated task :-P
19:14.19vhaarr:D
19:14.28ckknightlater, my main focus is Cartographer
19:14.29Mikmas/wan't/want/
19:14.32vhaarrsure thing
19:15.22AmadeoAceSnoop?
19:15.31AmadeoFo' shizzle
19:15.34Mikmayeah, aceaddon to snoop otherpeoples addons ;)
19:16.23Amadeohm
19:16.24Amadeohttp://media.1up.com/media?id=3074454&type=lg
19:16.26AmadeoDragon Age
19:17.14AmadeoI look forward to BioWare games
19:18.02[Cu]Werikhttp://raymanzone.us.ubi.com/ravingrabbids/index.html
19:18.04[Cu]Werik:)
19:18.32vhaarrI don't think any game can ever top what WoW gives me.
19:18.51vhaarrOf course, I am very naive, so.
19:18.53vhaarr:P
19:19.17[Cu]WerikThere are much more fun games then WoW:)
19:19.26AmadeoYeah
19:19.32AmadeoWoW's just a long term commitment
19:19.44Amadeobut you'll get a divorce in time
19:20.15MoonWolfwho do in cast spell do i ask for a guild invite ?
19:20.58nevcairielmaldiviah
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19:21.40AmadeoI should have just signed up for EU on WoWI :P
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19:22.59MoonWolfis afk
19:23.14vhaarrckknight: so, if I use :SecureHook in 1.12, do I have to call the original function?
19:23.14wolvesdoes anyone here know how to use a saved bartender2 profile on a toon on another account?
19:23.19ckknightno, vhaarr
19:23.26vhaarrckknight: thanks
19:23.31ckknightvhaarr, API is meant to be the same before and after TBC
19:23.51CIA-1703mikma 07TBC * r16387 10DreamChat/: DreamChat TBC: Making folder
19:24.46CIA-1703rabbit * r16388 10Fizzle/Core.lua: Fizzle: Don't call the original function when using SecureHook. Even in 1.12.
19:25.17CIA-1703mikma 07TBC * r16389 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (34 files in 12 dirs): DreamChat TBC: Initial import
19:28.25phyberckknight: when I use :SecureHook() in non-2.0, it also means I don't have to call the original function there?
19:28.35Elkanoyes
19:28.45ckknight:SecureHook() in non-2.0 works like it does in 2.0
19:28.53phyberok. :)
19:28.59CIA-1703bhattu * r16390 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer-Locale.lua Data/Shaman.lua):
19:28.59CIA-17Chronometer:
19:28.59CIA-17* Fix bug with Fire Nova Totem
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19:29.14phyberso it calls the original function first, then mine after.  cool.
19:29.17phybermakes things easier :)
19:29.44Mikmackknight: request! remove AceHook-2.0 from Ace2 TBC
19:30.20ckknightMikma, mmm... it'll break things on the SVN level
19:30.26ckknightmaybe later...
19:30.35Mikmaokiedokie
19:31.56Mikmaumh
19:31.56CIA-1703mikma 07Nevcairiel * r16391 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (Core.lua DreamChat.toc libs/): DreamChat TBC: Adding externals
19:32.02Mikmaright
19:32.14Mikmathat was my bad, will fix it up soon
19:32.26Mikmadidnt remember to checkout it from new location
19:32.41nevcairieldreamchat was never planned to be released on 1.12 anyway
19:32.45nevcairielwhy a new branch ? :D
19:32.53Mikmanevcairiel: you serious?
19:33.07Mikmai reallyt thought it would
19:33.26Mikmaok then..
19:33.33Mikmai think i didn't mess up anything afterall :)
19:35.02nevcairielit wont be really finished until BC, and now that we all got BC access
19:35.29CIA-1703mikma 07TBC * r16392 10DreamChat/: DreamChat 'TBC': Nevvie said it wasn't supposed to be released in vanilla, so here off we go with this folder
19:35.33CIA-1703phyber * r16393 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
19:35.33CIA-17Fizzle:
19:35.33CIA-17- Ditched a small function due to no longer needing it thanks to :SecureHook()
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19:37.55tkiefferOk.
19:38.10tkiefferI have a question about bag contents.
19:38.22tkiefferI have split a stack and put the partial stack in an empty slot.
19:38.31tkiefferThen I want to immediately pick that up and put it in a trade window.
19:38.55tkiefferbut it seems like the bag contents aren't updated by the UI that fast so it ends up picking up nothing.
19:39.14tkiefferIs there a way to either force a bag update, or pause execution for a sec or...
19:39.23Mikmanevcairiel: why is there an AceHook on DreamChat eventho it's not used? :)
19:39.50nevcairielold stuff
19:39.51nevcairiel:)
19:39.57Mikmaright. removing
19:40.20CIA-1703rabbit * r16394 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Prevent Fizzle from styling the slots when we add a set.
19:40.48vhaarrtkieffer: ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED
19:41.04CIA-1703mikma 07Nevcairiel * r16395 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (Core.lua DreamChat.toc libs/): DreamChat: Removing unused AceHook
19:41.44nevcairieldoes SEE work on TBC?
19:42.30vhaarrnevcairiel: yes
19:43.09CIA-1703mikma 07Nevcairiel * r16396 10DreamChat/DreamChat/libs/: DreamChat: whops, externals are now pointed into right dir
19:43.09XuerianSo it's not supposed to be released in vanilla. What about used? >.>
19:43.28Mikmawell
19:43.29nevcairielyou can use it, as long as its working
19:43.31nevcairiel:)
19:43.32Mikmait CAN now be used :)
19:43.38Xuerian:p
19:43.48Mikmajust use the "use out of date addon" checker hehe
19:43.54Mikmasince the toc is now 20000
19:44.20tkieffervhaarr Thanx
19:44.47cncfanaticsgot, I fucked up fb2
19:44.49cncfanaticshail svn
19:45.16CIA-1703sylvanaar * r16397 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (4 files): FuBar_RegenFu:Added 5 second countdown bar anchored just above or below the fubar panel text. Implemented intelligent first-time configuration for fsr and the fsr bar. Fized the combat flag not resetting on zoning.
19:46.30sylvanaarlol
19:46.31CIA-1703phyber * r16398 10IDCard/IDCard.lua:
19:46.31CIA-17IDCard:
19:46.31CIA-17- Removed some redundant code.
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19:48.12vhaarrlol, I logged in on some low level alt that had the bat costume buff, and went AFK, so he "sat down"
19:48.13sylvanaaranyone who uses regenfu want to try out the new bar and let me know what you think
19:48.18vhaarrthe bat isn't moving o_O
19:51.52AdrineThey should ninja-add a /dance emote to bats for next year.
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19:52.18AmadeoWhat web stores have good package deals of CPU and Motherboard?
19:52.28Amadeoanything besides the typical?
19:52.47AdrineThe bats are awesome though. My wife spent basically the entire Halloween event time doing laps of Ironforge in a bat costume singing the Batman theme song.
19:53.10AdrineAmadeo: Poked around on Newegg? They usually have some great stuff.
19:53.24Amadeoyeah, I always just hope for some site I dont' know about :D
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19:53.43AdrineYou could try pricewatch. Just x-reference anything you find with resellerratings.com
19:54.01AmadeoPricewatch used to be so much better
19:54.04AdrineYeah :/
19:54.16AdrineI usually don't even bother these days. I just head straight to newegg.
19:54.57AmadeoI knew a lot of people who started going with zipzoomfly because of taxes in som areas
19:57.18eternally777I need opinions.  Which is better: http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/newsb.png or http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/oldsb.jpg
19:57.57CIA-1703rabbit * r16399 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Forcefully close the dewdrop when you delete a set, to allow the menu to update.
19:58.36CIA-1703sylvanaar * r16400 10FuBar_RegenFu/Textures/ (. 5.tga smooth.tga): FuBar_RegenFu: Forgot to include the textures
19:59.32AmadeoI tend to like newsb since it doesn't look like a Necrosis rip :)
20:00.32eternally777Yeah...
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20:03.42Elkanowrt lua 5.1 how do i correctly call a hook if I don't know how many args I've gotten?
20:04.18Xuerianfunction me:myhookedfunction(...) self.hooks.myhookedfunction(...) ? >.>
20:07.00cncfanaticsgood question Elkno
20:07.04cncfanaticsi'd need it too
20:07.08cncfanaticswould ... simply work ?
20:07.22Elkanonope, doesn't
20:07.33cncfanaticsWTB
20:07.37Elkanocannot use '...' outside a vararg function near "..."
20:07.50Elkanobtw: what was InviteByName renamed to?
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20:09.19nevcairielInviteUnit
20:09.20nevcairielafaik
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20:10.10RoyalWhat's that command to check when someone was last online in this chan? :)
20:10.31Elkano~seen Royal
20:10.53purlroyal is currently on #wowi-lounge (8h 2m 30s) #wowace (8h 2m 30s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 44s, last said: 'What's that command to check when someone was last online in this chan? :)'.
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20:12.21Elkano<3 slouken :) he gave me nice features for ebb without me asking ^^
20:12.36AdrineLike what?
20:12.39nevcairielwhats that?
20:12.46JoshBorkehola!
20:12.49Elkanocould so ask him to add a funktion to obtain the name of a weapon enchant also?
20:13.24Royal~seen Fritos
20:13.27purlRoyal: i haven't seen 'fritos'
20:13.30Royal:(
20:13.38AdrineQuick question: Does anyone know if we'll be able to get an item link for items in the inbox without opening the mail itself?
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20:13.44AdrineIn BC
20:13.57AdrineWe can currently set the tooltip from an InboxItem, but we can't get a link, last I checked.
20:14.14sylvanaarXuerian: you mean ... -> unpack(arg) doesnt work in tbc?
20:14.41Xuerianhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.9 http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7
20:15.50Nivyani got a problem with ag_UnitFrames. At the right side of my player frame. I have my health/mana: current/total. But somtimes the "/total" disapear! So it only says: "current/". Also when i die, and it should say "Ghost" it only says: "Ghos"
20:15.52eternally777Where is the detailed thread about 2.0 changes?
20:16.22JoshBorkehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/ look for the UI forums, then the 2.0 concise changes thread by iriel (at the top)
20:16.39Adrinehttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/36975623.htm
20:16.43AdrineI tend to prefer that version :)
20:16.46AdrineAt least for skimming.
20:18.03JoshBorkeAdrine: =P
20:18.36sylvanaarXuerian: so you are saying unpack(arg) doesnt work
20:18.45ArmoooXuerian: http://wowace.com/trac/ticket/127
20:19.08Xueriansylvanaar: afaik =D.... I'm trying to figure out what does and doesn't work at the moment so i dont' go around spewing misinformation :p
20:19.11Nivyani got a problem with ag_UnitFrames. At the right side of my player frame. I have my health/mana: current/total. But somtimes the "/total" disapear! So it only says: "current/". Also when i die, and it should say "Ghost" it only says: "Ghos"
20:19.30RoyalLook at: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2725.0 - I changed this mod, based on GetDKP code: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1367/oothfuzs3.jpg
20:19.32XuerianNivyan: At least grace us by re-typing your question isntead of copy/pasting
20:19.37RoyalIt's currently guild-only. Think there would be interest for public version?
20:20.04Sarozffs
20:20.09Sarozthere is a delay on FD detection
20:20.11Sarozhunter dies
20:20.14Sarozregistered as dead
20:20.18Sarozand buff is applied later
20:20.21Sarozlike 2 secs later
20:20.41vhaarrSaroz: Even locally for the hunter?
20:20.46Sarozdunno
20:20.48nevcairielprobably not
20:20.54nevcairielbut on other clients it is
20:21.07Sarozyea, pain
20:21.07vhaarrI hope not, because I tested it, and it was instant.
20:21.12vhaarrso I just hope they didn't change it.
20:21.13sylvanaarexp ::=  nil | false | true | Number | String | `...´ | function |
20:21.18NivyanXuerian: Why should i refrain the question i ask? I got i covered the first 2 times
20:21.18Mikmanevcairiel: you know, this secure thing is really a turnoff
20:21.19Sarozit's not instant if you are not the hunter
20:21.20sylvanaaryou can return ...
20:21.22sylvanaaryeah
20:21.27nevcairielMikma: yeah
20:21.37XuerianNivyan: Because it's annoying?
20:21.39XuerianNivyan:  :)
20:22.36NivyanXuerian: Its anoying not to have my questions answered :)
20:22.58XuerianNivyan: Afaik, all addons are provided on a as-is basis. Help is not guaranteed.
20:23.32vhaarrWhat is the difference between doing |local foo = compost:Acquire(); foo.x = true;| and |local foo = compost:AcquireHash("foo", true);| ?
20:23.40vhaarrerr
20:23.51vhaarr|local foo = compost:AcquireHash("x", true);|
20:23.52vhaarrobviously
20:23.57sylvanaarwill you need compost in 5.1 still?
20:24.00XuerianArmooo: Looking at it, thanks.
20:24.06vhaarrsylvanaar: no
20:24.26nevcairielbasicly there shouldnt be a difference
20:24.40vhaarrindeed, there should not be
20:24.44XuerianNivyan: Anyways, open the config for the layout you're using and look at the widths for various fields
20:24.49XuerianNivyan: It looks like it's getting cut off
20:24.56XuerianNivyan: <Pins on Capn' Obvious badge>
20:24.58nevcairielvhaarr is there?
20:25.03vhaarrnevcairiel: yes
20:25.19AmadeoVista is Gold
20:25.25AmadeoPublic release is the 30th
20:25.26vhaarrVista is Crap.
20:26.01AmadeoIt's the only place you'll get DX10 :)
20:26.01XuerianVista is however pushing through new technologies, like nothing else can. (Mainly ipv6)
20:26.14XuerianSo crap or not, the crap we WANT is attached :)
20:26.18AdrineI'm actually really excited about the ipv6 change.
20:26.26AdrineThat'sa huge, huge step.
20:26.27Amadeowhat's the ipv6 change?
20:26.54AdrineThey're basically giving every Vista machine a "domain name" that you can use to access the machine from anywhere, but you have to be running ipv6 to get it, or some such.
20:27.08AmadeoI see
20:27.09AdrineI think they're basically going to be running a subdomain resolver for vista clients.
20:27.11NivyanXuerian: Already tried that. Doesn't work
20:27.19AdrineBut, it's an encouragement to move to IPv6, which is very very good
20:27.24XuerianNivyan: No clue then, sorry. Try asking ag`.
20:27.28NivyanXuerian: Even tried maxing out the widenss just to be sure - same thing
20:29.01vhaarrThis is crazy, Compost is broken.
20:29.10vhaarr~whaleambush tekkub
20:29.11purlACTION ambushes tekkub with Giovanni, a whale that's a bit too big to be a dagger
20:29.30GrineO_o
20:29.35Grinebest emote ever?
20:29.45XuerianAmadeo: IPv6 is a rework of the current IPv4 (right?) address system, which currently cannot nearly handle the amount of addresses needed for the 'net
20:29.49vhaarr~whalecrit Grine
20:29.50purlACTION crits Grine with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Grine dies
20:29.54Xuerian~wtf ipv6
20:29.54vhaarrThat one is better.
20:30.04vhaarrhaha
20:30.07Xuerian~wiki ipv6
20:30.08vhaarrXuerian: Learn anything? :P
20:30.17vhaarr~pat purl
20:30.18purlACTION pats purl and says "Nicely Done!"
20:30.18Grinenah vhaarr
20:30.19XuerianNothing in particular XD
20:30.25Grineambush was cooler
20:30.41vhaarrGrine: Not if you're a nerd.
20:30.43JoshBorkeit's the end of the world! compost is broken!
20:30.50JoshBorke~search whale
20:30.59vhaarr~tryme
20:31.01purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at vhaarr and fires. Click.
20:31.04vhaarr><
20:31.10JoshBorke~tryme
20:31.11purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at joshborke and fires. A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face
20:31.15JoshBorke:-(
20:31.22vhaarro/
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20:31.42vhaarr~seen tekkub
20:31.51purltekkub <n=Tekkub@adsl-70-250-24-54.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 7m 21s ago, saying: 'Mikk, you back now?'.
20:31.51vhaarr~seen ckknight
20:31.54purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 1m 28s ago, saying: 'maybe later...'.
20:32.04vhaarr7h, he's due for a comeback.
20:32.05JoshBorkepurl, see vhaar
20:32.07purlACTION whispers to vhaar "You didn't see anything...."
20:32.17vhaarro_O
20:33.21JoshBorke~literal see
20:33.24purl"see" is "<reply> You didn't see anything..."
20:33.46sylvanaarXuerian: A vararg function does not adjust its argument list; instead, it collects all extra arguments and supplies them to the function through a vararg expression, which is also written as three dots. The value of this expression is a list of all actual extra arguments, similar to a function with multiple results.
20:34.08Xueriansylvanaar: yeah, I've read that a couple times, the obvious just isn't clicking.
20:34.10Nivyanhttp://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/JRock420/cooldowns.jpg <---- Which buff mod is that?
20:34.19sylvanaarXuerian: thats what i found, the answer is '...'
20:34.27vhaarrNivyan: ElkBuffBar.
20:34.34Nivyanthx
20:35.19sylvanaarXuerian: "which is also written as 3 dots"
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20:35.53Xueriansylvanaar: Yeah, but what I don't get is how to get values OUT of ... >.>... suppose I should ask in #wowi-lounge. Someone there might know.
20:38.56sylvanaarXuerian: according to what it says funtion(...) return ,,,
20:40.18sylvanaarXuerian: so ... works like multiple parameters returned from a function
20:40.18SarozAMAGAWD!!!
20:40.18Adrinevargs is a table
20:40.18SarozUpdated for WoW 2.0:
20:40.18Saroz* NEW name, rank = GetPlayerBuffName(id, or "name"[,"rank"])
20:40.18Saroz* UPDATED name, rank, icon, count = UnitBuff("unit", index [,raidFilter]) - Added name/rank
20:40.18Saroz* UPDATED name, rank, icon, count, type = UnitDebuff("unit", index [,raidFilter]) - Added name/rank
20:40.18Saroz- UnitHasBuff() and UnitHasDebuff() are obsoleted by this change and are no longer included.
20:40.24SarozYUS BABY
20:40.25Sarozname returned
20:40.26Sarozftw
20:40.33AdrineSo function(arg1, ...), then iterate varargs
20:40.55AdrineI -think-
20:41.02XuerianGive me code that does something and I'll understand, till then I'm trying to do it :p
20:42.16malrethis there a way to change your svn password?
20:42.32malrethi searched the wiki and the forums but can't find anything
20:42.48XuerianShiny
20:42.49XuerianOk
20:43.09sylvanaarXuerian: you get values out of ... using the return statement
20:43.13Xuerianfunction(...) local args = {...} for k, v in pairs(args) do print(k, v) end end
20:43.37Xuerian^works
20:43.55Xuerianhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5
20:44.14JoshBorkebad!
20:44.49Xuerianjosh, select doesn't work on it.
20:45.13XuerianIf you're anal about parameters just go local arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6 {etc} = ...
20:45.19Xuerians/parameters/tables/
20:45.43CIA-1703nargiddley * r16401 10MainAssist/ (11 files in 3 dirs):
20:45.44CIA-17MainAssist: inital commit
20:45.44CIA-17- Tank frame and assist addon with visual feedback for unique targets
20:45.59JoshBorkewhat about for k,v in pairs(...) do?
20:46.04malrethXuerian: select() does indeed work on ...
20:46.10malrethJoshBorke: that won't work
20:46.14malrethpairs expects a table
20:46.18Xuerianmalreth: Then the way -I- tried it didn't work, and I'm wrong :p
20:46.19JoshBorkeright, my bad
20:46.20sylvanaar... is a list not a table
20:46.34zoktarany aguf masters around ? =P
20:46.43phyberis there a :SecureHookScript() or is that not needed?
20:47.29pastamancerXuerian: you use select('#', ...) to get the length
20:47.34zoktarwondering if u can make the debuffs of targets stack from top to bottom and not bottom to top :P
20:48.07pastamancerfor i,select('#', ...) do local arg = select(i, ...) end
20:48.21XuerianJoshBorke, malreth: Right, select works, but it's not table, index) it's (index, table), that's what was confusing me
20:48.25pastamancers/i,/i=1 /
20:48.29Xuerianpastamancer: Yeah, thanks. Just read that after you said it
20:48.33CIA-1703nargiddley * r16402 10MainAssist/:
20:48.33CIA-17MainAssist:
20:48.33CIA-17- Added Externals
20:50.56sylvanaarit all looks so awkward
20:51.05Mikmalol
20:51.05XuerianOY, Everyone looking for help with AGUF! We have rabid offers for help coming from #wowi-lounge ... Join there and bug them about it
20:51.09Mikmatailors got a net!
20:51.41XuerianThat's you, zoktar, Nivyan
20:52.00ag`what's up? :P
20:52.14XuerianThat's your queue, zoktar, Nivyan >_>
20:52.30JoshBorkecue ;)
20:52.35Xuerian...
20:52.37Xuerianhate.
20:52.38ag`queue
20:52.44Thunder_Childdamit josh, you beat me
20:52.45Xuerians/hate./h8
20:52.47Xuerianah fuh.
20:52.58JoshBorkei'm onu-handed noo!
20:53.03malrethfor k, v in pairs{...} do would work... but that creates an anonymous table
20:53.03malrethi would be less worried about anon table clutter in 5.1... we'll have to see how well the incremental GC works when you're fighting through suppression rooms
20:53.06JoshBorkedamnit
20:53.39sylvanaari think just saying {...} is sufficient. that makes it a table
20:53.40Xuerianselect doesn't actually look too bad
20:53.44Xuerianit's just counter-intuitive
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20:54.03pastamancerjust use select damnit!
20:54.09XuerianWhy do the people who need help have no patience?
20:54.34XuerianArmooo: After testing it for a while, I can't reproduce Master sending color strings in chat
20:54.43sylvanaaryou can say pairs({...}) i think
20:54.51XuerianArmooo: What was the exact situation it sent them in?
20:55.03gxamXuerian: because if they were patient they would probably have figured it out for themselves
20:55.05Xuerianyou can say pairs{...} >_>... But that still leaves a table in memory
20:55.12Xueriangxam: Very, very good point
20:55.35Xuerianlike malreth said a few lines back o.0
20:55.45AdrineIs select() something new in 5.1, or is that another feature I don't know about?
20:55.53malrethnew
20:55.56Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/search/ <- i like my portal ;)
20:56.27Nivyanhttp://wow.tfl.be/mageUI.png <--- how do make that bottom art etc. ?
20:56.30AdrineI'm digging through the lua wiki, but anyone have a quick link to doc on it?
20:56.53MikmaNivyan: DART
20:56.55AdrineLooks like Discord, Nivyan
20:57.00AdrineDART = Discord Art
20:57.02XuerianNifty, MikkWoW
20:57.03AdrineSo yeah
20:57.09MikmaXuerian: meep
20:57.11AdrineSay bye-bye to your RAM :P
20:57.12Xuerianer
20:57.15Xueriannifty Mikma.
20:57.21XuerianMikma:  Hm?
20:57.42vhaarrNeed ... more ... posts .. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2957.0 .. on ... regular interval .. to bump.
20:57.45MikmaXuerian: hi 2 u 2
20:57.51Xuerianzomghai!
20:58.11Mikmavhaarr: tabard and shirt?
20:58.15vhaarrMikma: aah!
20:58.16CIA-1703moonsorrow * r16403 10GotWood/GotWood.lua:
20:58.16CIA-17GotWood:
20:58.16CIA-17- fixed remove totems on death event
20:58.21vhaarrMikma: Post about it :P
20:58.45Mikmavhaarr: done.
20:58.50ArmoooXuerian: it was after having people roll for the loot and clicking there name in the sorted list. I think it will only not work with lua 5.0
20:58.55Mikmashall i put it BIG and RED? ;)
20:59.17ArmoooXuerian: I will update and test it again
20:59.20XuerianArmooo: I don't have a 5.1 key, I'll test it once more then make a change anyway
20:59.25malrethAdrine: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-select
20:59.26XuerianArmooo: Haven't changed anything that would fix that
21:00.06AdrineMany thanks, malreth
21:00.46AdrineIs that specific to ..., or is it usable for tables, as well?
21:00.51Mikmanevcairiel: have you had a look at Trinity Buttons?
21:00.53XuerianArmooo: Well I'll be darned, you're right. Fixing XD
21:01.20nevcairielMikma: no, whats that?
21:01.28Mikmanevcairiel: TBC actionbutton-addon
21:01.35nevcairielwhere to get?
21:01.40Mikmanevcairiel: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5528-Trinity_Buttons.html
21:01.55malrethselect can't be used on tables... it's used on a list of arguments
21:02.11Mikmanevcairiel: it might have some help
21:02.53malrethyou could do something like foo = select(5, unpack(someList)) to get the 5th item from a list... but that's pretty stupid
21:03.16AdrineSure. I was mostly wondering if it could be used to take slices out of a table.
21:03.20AdrineBut yeah, reading up on it now.
21:03.43nevcairielinteresting
21:03.44XuerianIt's only practical use is ...
21:03.49malrethno
21:03.52XuerianIt CAN be used for other stuff :D
21:04.45XuerianWait, where else would it be the preferred method of selecting a argument?
21:04.45Azurewrathhmmm.. does anyone have problems with Cartographer and the live client? It kills most of my UI when loaded..
21:04.46Mikmaag`: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5660-1-minigroup2h.html :D
21:05.37CIA-1703pastamancer * r16404 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: Still need deDE translations for GridStatusTarget.
21:05.43AmadeoAzurewrath: Update it and try again
21:05.44sylvanaarXuerian: taking a fixed number of arguments?
21:05.53malrethit does offer a cleaner way of picking the last few return args from a function without having to create dummy vars
21:06.02AzurewrathAmadeo: i'm speaking of the latest revision.
21:06.05Amadeohm
21:06.07ag`Mikma, hm, I don't like how he doesn't give credit, but anyway... In less than 30 days all actionbar addons will die
21:06.13Xuerianmalreth: Guess so.
21:06.15CIA-1703xuerian * r16405 10XLootMaster/ (XLootMaster.lua XLootMasterOptions.lua): XLootMaster: Whoops. DC'ing the LM is bad. Let's not. Thanks Armooo!
21:06.25Mikmaag`: put Cairenn's wrath on him
21:06.34ag`meh :)
21:06.46AmadeoI'll look
21:06.55Cairennag`: hmmmm?
21:06.55malrethtexture = select(9, GetItemInfo(12345))
21:07.19Mikmaag`: see? Cairenn does see EVERYTHING
21:07.37Cairennis there a problem I need to be dealing with?
21:07.39ag`but Mikma, I don't care much :)
21:07.57ag`it's an old and busted version that will die in less than 30 days (come 2.0)
21:07.59Cairennsomeone care to fill me in, please?
21:08.10MikmaCairenn: someone just didn't credit ag` in his modification of MiniGroup2 but ag` doesn't care
21:08.11Xuerianag` needs to put a hit on someone.
21:08.14malrethyou are being invoked... just like how people invoke Zeus
21:08.19Mikmaag`: 2 months... nmt 30 days
21:08.32Cairennis it on my site?
21:08.36Mikmayeap
21:08.36ag`Mikma: 2.0 will be out before december I think
21:08.40JoshBorkecurse-gaming
21:08.50Mikmaag`: no, it won't. blizz said it will come Q1 2007
21:08.51ag`Mikma: Cairenn doesn't have curse afaik?
21:09.02ag`Mikma: Q1 07 is BC release date
21:09.03Mikmaoh wtf lol
21:09.03Cairennif it's on CG, nothing I can do about it, you need to talk to [Cu]Werik
21:09.04JoshBorkeMikma: he means the UI changes
21:09.06AmadeoAzurewrath: It works for me
21:09.07ag`2.0 is 06
21:09.11Mikmai thought i pasted a WoWI
21:09.16[Cu]Werikum?
21:09.16Mikmait was curse :P
21:09.17malrethlike when you stub your toe on the coffee table when walking from the kitchen to the bedroom at night and you scream, "Tem dammit!!!"
21:09.22Cairennif it's on wowi, I deal with it
21:09.35AzurewrathAmadeo: mhm.. strange.. i'll do a fresh checkout..
21:09.36Thunder_Childlol mal
21:09.44AmadeoAzurewrath: Unless you're speaking of TBC
21:09.55ag`1. I don't care much 2. it will fix itself 3. it's on curse :P
21:10.00Azurewrathnope, the live client.. it works fine with the tbc client
21:10.12[Cu]WerikWhat's the problem?
21:10.15Thunder_Childthats where [Cu]Werik come is
21:10.16AmadeoAzurewrath: If it's the WorldDeath thing, ck fixed that a few hours ago
21:10.19Thunder_Childcomes in*
21:10.40AmadeoWorldMapDeathRelease, that was it
21:10.52vhaarrMikma: You little whirlwind, you.
21:10.56FiskerXuerian why disconnecting? :O
21:11.07XuerianFisker: Huh? Master?
21:11.13Mikmavhaarr: wroom!
21:11.33Fisker(22:06:16) <CIA-17> xuerian * r16405 XLootMaster/ (XLootMaster.lua XLootMasterOptions.lua): XLootMaster: Whoops. DC'ing the LM is bad. Let's not. Thanks Armooo!
21:12.02malrethhorray
21:12.08XuerianOh, I was doing a loop and the variable was being passed to a function changed so it ended up disconnecting the LM when trying to loot :)
21:12.38Xuerianmalreth: You know what's interesting?
21:12.42AzurewrathAmadeo: no error msg, just Prat, agUF and various other (Ace2) mods stop working..
21:12.46nevcairielMikma: thanks for the link, i found what i was looking for in the addon comments :D
21:12.52Xuerianmalreth: It seems like select itself just creates a table.
21:13.03malrethXuerian: Garth Brooks giving birth to Mickey Mouse?
21:13.17Xuerianmalreth: No that's more freaky than interesting. <.<
21:13.25Mikmanevcairiel: huh? :)
21:13.30Thunder_Childwonder who the mother is
21:13.57AzurewrathAmadeo: works again after a fresh check out.. strange..
21:13.59malrethXuerian: how can you tell that select() creates a table?
21:14.07nevcairielMikma: look at the comments, and scroll down to coqwheels post
21:14.14AmadeoAzurewrath: That's easy at least :)
21:14.18Xuerianmalreth: Good answer or bad answer?
21:14.28sylvanaaris there already some library to put a bunch of bars on a frame? ie a meter type frame
21:14.33malrethuh... both
21:15.14XuerianXD Um, good would be that it doesn't, I thought it over again after my intial statement. Bad would be that _ is jealous.
21:15.18sbumhh is there any aced 'enchantrix'?
21:15.28AmadeoHas anyone been working on ag_UF for 1.12?
21:15.32Mikmanevcairiel: are we much wiser now?
21:15.41nevcairieli am
21:15.49nevcairielthat doesnt help the BT problem tho
21:15.59Mikma:(
21:16.04malreth_ is just a variable identifier like a or q or michaelBolton
21:16.04nevcairielbut i was toying around with a new actionbar addon, which creates buttons
21:16.11Mikmayou're creating some new actionbaraddon?
21:16.17malrethnothing special about _
21:16.32nevcairieli was just trying the functionality
21:16.33nevcairiel:)
21:16.34malrethhere... look
21:16.37Xuerianmalreth: I know. I was trying to introduce comedy into my bungled hypothethis.
21:16.54malrethok... now everyone point a laugh at _
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21:17.12malrethha hahahah!
21:17.22malrethi can't spell laughs correctly
21:17.44Mikmanevcairiel: well tell me if you are any wiser heh
21:17.51XuerianXD
21:18.14nevcairieli still dont see a way to make BT work again, using the builtin buttons
21:18.28nevcairielbut maybe i will find something while i play with a new action addon
21:19.20sylvanaarhttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016082/FrameXML/ActionButton.lua
21:19.46nevcairielsomehow i dont like the font in that
21:20.07sylvanaarhttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016082/FrameXML/SecureStateHeader.lua
21:21.05XuerianHehe... I think we skeetered Mike-N-Go out of coming to #wowace.
21:21.29Mikmanevcairiel: the dude in CastSpell did say that it's doable with SecureStateHeader
21:21.48sylvanaarok my turn - any prepackaged graphing libraries
21:22.01JoshBorkesylvanaar: no :-P  but what are you graphing?
21:22.05Mikmasylvanaar: openGL?
21:22.18JoshBorkenevcairiel: what portion of BT are you trying to get working?
21:22.32sylvanaarstuff in lua - sw stats data
21:22.36nevcairielstanceswap
21:22.41Mikmanevcairiel: UH
21:22.46JoshBorkenevcairiel: use SecureStateHeader
21:22.53Mikmanevcairiel: it works in Trinity
21:22.57Mikmanevcairiel: just check it out :)
21:23.04nevcairieltrinity creates its own buttons
21:23.06sylvanaarnevcairiel: read the text at the top of the file
21:23.19AmadeoI need some unit frames to use in 1.12
21:23.22JoshBorkenevcairiel: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5508
21:23.28JoshBorkeAmadeo: ag_UF :-P
21:23.28Mikmanevcairiel: eventho it creates it's own buttons... THEY are still the ones i have put in blizzard bars
21:23.34AmadeoagUF is buggy in 1.12
21:23.38nevcairielit uses the actions
21:23.49NeronixoUF
21:24.05nevcairieland i ve seen all the example addons and documentation in the files
21:24.17AmadeooUF works ok? I thought it was still a work in progress
21:24.50JoshBorkesylvanaar: you really have to create your own graphing stuff
21:25.16NeronixAmadeo: It's worked perfectly for 3-4 months
21:25.16JoshBorkehow are you trying to graph it?  pie graph? bar graph? histogram graph?
21:25.28NeronixIF shit breaks, it's usually my fault :P
21:25.47Amadeohehe
21:25.57XuerianThat would actually be a kinda cool lib
21:26.04CIA-1703xuerian * r16406 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Proper usage of XLoot:Skin(), modifications to itembutton skinning
21:26.08nevcairielanyway, i need sleep now, laters
21:26.16XuerianCya nevcairiel =D
21:26.30Neronixnight nev
21:27.24sylvanaarJoshBorke: it seems like a waste to reinvent the wheel for every addon
21:27.29CIA-1703xuerian * r16407 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Modifications to itembutton skinning (Read: Looks better >.>)
21:27.33eternally777When did HealPoints go Ace2?
21:28.17JoshBorkesylvanaar: depending on the form changes whether you are reinventing the wheel.  how man mods use pie graphs or histogram graphs?
21:29.04sylvanaarJoshBorke: let me reprase, a bunch of bars on a frame
21:29.30sylvanaarJoshBorke: that would be enough for now
21:30.13sylvanaaris there something in ace library or an ace addon that i can share source with
21:31.36AdrineWell, I know that CandyBar does timers, right?
21:31.43AdrineSo there's bar-drawing code in there that you could look at.
21:32.05AzurewrathXuerian: mhm.. does XLoot work with TBC? I noticed that i can't live without it anymore ;p
21:32.21XuerianAzurewrath: It's worked on and off since alpha :)
21:32.35sylvanaaryeah i guess i could pause the candybars - seems like a hack
21:32.36Azurewrathnice :)
21:32.48XuerianYes, it works now. or should anyway :P.
21:32.54MikmaJoshBorke: that's a new example from iriel, didn't see that one previously today
21:33.10AzurewrathXuerian: is there a TBC branch or should i just copy over the trunk?
21:33.46XuerianAzurewrath: Trunk. I haven't forked it, the changes aren't big enough. Instead just a few version checks here and there.
21:34.37sylvanaarwhat do you think about integrating top damage and top healing etc with the unitframes?
21:35.10XuerianSomeone get him that comic with the damagemeters rogue >_>
21:35.32sylvanaarhuh?
21:37.00Nivyanmy MiniMap keep disapearing behind DART skins. How do i make it appear in front of the skins and not behind them?
21:37.08Xuerianhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/46.html
21:37.14MikmaJoshBorke: but still, that does not do the thing i want
21:37.28MikmaNivyan: by removing DART :P
21:37.35Nivyanlol :D
21:37.35XuerianNivyan: Set the art strata lower
21:37.46NivyanIts the lowest
21:37.48sylvanaarthats funny
21:37.50XuerianThen youre SOL
21:38.22XuerianReally, no, :P Just crack open your minimap mod and find where it sets it's strata
21:38.30Xueriansylvanaar: http://www.darklegacycomics.com/39.html
21:38.45Nivyanim using simpleMap - dunno where to find it
21:39.47sylvanaaryeah thats funny
21:40.32JoshBorkesylvanaar: i don't really think you are reinventing the wheel when doing the bars for damagemeters/sw stats.  it's just statusbars with different textures
21:40.50NivyanHow do i raise my MiniMap strata? I'm using SimpleMap
21:41.46XuerianRight click your minimap...
21:42.02XuerianStrata -> #
21:42.15sylvanaarJoshBorke: well, i mean - i was looking for some ace library or addon that exists already - otherwise i can just use sw stats and inject the data i want into it
21:43.35NivyanXuerian: no such thing - right-clicking my MiniMap does not show anything about Strata
21:44.03XuerianNivyan: Are you using the ace'd SimpleMinimap?
21:44.14Mikmaag`: http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9373/steeltextureic9.jpg
21:44.21NivyanXuerian: Proberly not if it is in that ver ;)
21:44.22Mikmaag`: where can i get that?
21:44.27eternally777Is Squeenix supposed to be movable?
21:45.13Mikmamaybe after you unlock it
21:46.03eternally777It is unlocked -.-
21:46.05eternally777Twice.
21:46.11eternally777Thrice now.
21:46.18XuerianNivyan: Use WoWAceUpdater and get it there. Should be there anyway
21:46.24XuerianOr /files
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21:49.29XuerianGeez, does everyone use nnscript?
21:50.51eternally777Never heard of it.
21:52.16kaidenMikma, wher ecan you get that texture? EpoxyTBC has it
21:52.19sylvanaarjust those last few ppl i gues
21:52.30Amadeonnscript was pretty good a few years back
21:52.31Mikmakaiden: i just got epoxy and now am inspecting it
21:52.35Amadeothen it turned into a big dll mess
21:52.48kaidenMikma, it's pretty fun to get working in the non TBC releases of ag_UF
21:53.12kaidendont forget to edit the lua's to allow the steel.tga to work there are multiple places in them that you need to add it
21:53.16Mikmaag`: ADD it in
21:53.17kaidenjust search for the other tga's
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21:57.32Mikmaso, SecurePieButton is just a round ActionBar
21:58.48JensIt's like Norah Jones, only not awful.
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21:59.11CIA-1703pastamancer * r16408 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua): Grid: added tooltips: "always", "never", "ooc".
21:59.29JensBlah... pasted now-playing spam to wrong channel... disregard.
21:59.48MikmaJens: ass!
22:00.00Jens:(
22:00.12AdrineFired!
22:00.29JensI've already gotten fired once this week.
22:01.02ckknightwow, Rumsfeld is stepping down
22:01.09JensWell, not really... but I can sense it's likely to happen.
22:01.13eternally777Yeah I just read that a few minutes ago.
22:01.19Mikmawho is he
22:01.22eternally777Director of CIA is replacing him.
22:01.22AmadeoJens: You're too good for McD's anyway
22:01.40eternally777Mikma: US Secretary of Defense.
22:01.48JensHah... I actually applied for a job there once in desperation. Lucky for me I didn't get it.
22:01.57Amadeoheheh
22:02.07AdrineJens, are you Donald Rumsfeld?
22:02.18JensWho?
22:02.20Amadeohaha
22:02.25AdrineHehe, nevermind
22:02.25eternally777-.-
22:02.26Mikmahaha
22:02.31JensI know who he is :P
22:02.31Amadeothat means no
22:02.32eternally777:P
22:02.32CIA-1703saroz * r16409 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua):
22:02.32CIA-17sRaidFrames:
22:02.32CIA-17- Tweaked range check a bit, nothing you should notice
22:02.32CIA-17- Added ability to select display of tooltips for debuffs, buffs and units separately.
22:02.32CIA-17- Tried some stuff with feign death, dunno if it will make any difference.
22:02.47JensWho the hell doesn't, unless you live under a rock.
22:03.10AdrineHey, don't judge the rock-dwellers!
22:03.17*** part/#wowace Reijin (n=opera@mx1.stratcor.com)
22:03.21yacoob...and put that rock down, will you?
22:03.38Xuerian... of rocks*
22:03.56JensI live on the opposite side of the planet from where he is, and I know. I hardly ever watch the news even.
22:04.14JensCould be that I'm just good at remembering names.
22:04.25Jens(And awful at remembering everything else)
22:04.36XuerianWee, I'm just the opposite!
22:04.39AdrineI like to think I'm pretty good at remembering everything but names.
22:05.09JensIf I could just remember things I'm taught at school :/
22:05.18XuerianI can describe a person, how I feel about them, what they do, what they did that I remember, where we met, why we met, where they are... But personal details? Name, age, birthday... hah
22:06.08JensI can name random actors or musicians, and identify songs given a few notes. But I can forget to put on my glasses in the morning.
22:06.27AmadeoThat's because you don't wear glasses
22:06.33XuerianXD
22:07.12JensNot at the moment I don't actually.
22:07.20JensBecause... get this... I can't remember where I put them.
22:07.21AmadeoI'm here to help
22:07.28XuerianYeah, and I forget to do things (Like, say, turn off a hydrant, or what the happened in the first half of a tv show in the second, or the previous show...) almost instantaneously :P
22:07.49Amadeowho turns on hydrants?
22:07.57yacoobturn off hydra?
22:08.01XuerianPeople who live on farms... >_>
22:08.06Amadeowhoa!
22:08.10AmadeoWho has computers on farms!
22:08.19yacoobforgetting to turn off hydra could be disastrous.
22:08.20Xuerian~whaleforehead
22:08.30Jensecho hydra=false > hydra.conf
22:08.48yacoobPermission dehydrated. Mwahahah.
22:08.49CIA-1703saroz * r16410 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua:
22:08.49CIA-17sRaidFrames:
22:08.49CIA-17- Don't ask
22:08.49CIA-17- Change range check back
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22:10.25yacoobWTB: [Set of eyes]
22:10.45yacoobI really need to start carrying some drops...
22:10.50Amadeogumdrops?
22:11.23yacoob*looks for dictionary*
22:11.33yacoobeyedrops :)
22:11.41yacoob(duh, who'd think it's as simple as that :)
22:11.54CIA-1703neriak * r16411 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.toc:
22:11.54CIA-17AH_Wipe:
22:11.54CIA-17- TOC bump
22:12.02yacoobAH wipe?
22:12.15yacoobsummons random boss to wipe all area near AH? :D
22:13.01AdrineI would run a mod that replicated Biny's AH boom.
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22:19.00Mikmakaiden: i don't realize how it's done in epoxy/aguf but i'll have another look tomorrow
22:19.03Mikmagn now all
22:19.18Xueriano/
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22:30.16XLVIIHow do I get the scrolling text over NPC and PC players when I deal damage to them back? I've tried everything and I can't get it working.
22:30.21CIA-1703neriak * r16412 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.toc:
22:30.21CIA-17AH_Wipe:
22:30.21CIA-17- another TOC update, fixed tags
22:32.24yacoobXLVII, get SCT and SCT damage?
22:32.48CIA-1703sylvanaar * r16413 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (. FuBar_RegenFu.toc): FuBar_RegenFu: Embedded candybar and its dependancies, updated toc
22:33.06XuerianXLVII: It's in interface options....
22:33.17yacoob...but SCT does that better :)
22:33.30XuerianIt doesn't do it -over the target- better.
22:33.33Xuerian:)
22:33.38yacoobfor example, when you deal with large mobs, default interface displays damage over their heads
22:33.51yacoobwhich could be way too high to be seen
22:34.02XuerianYes, but if you want it over the head of the NPC, that won't help ;)
22:34.04yacoobwhile SCT displays stuff in fixed places
22:34.20yacoobXuerian, but of course :D
22:35.09XuerianSo either Get SCT-Damage if you want a in-place scroller, or enable blizzard's over NPC's in advanced interface options
22:37.09yacooband donate $9.99 to your friendly #wowace support stuff, yes.
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22:38.45NivyanIs is possible to make KTM Meter reset after every fight?
22:39.17Neeblerit does when you set a master target
22:40.17NivyanIs it possible without choosing one?
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22:40.36Frittiis it possible to list more than one person in the '# Author: ' field of the TOC?
22:40.50pastamancerFritti: yes
22:41.32Frittiseparated by , ?
22:41.49ckknightseparate by ", "
22:41.53Frittiok thanks
22:44.10Kalamadi<= is alive, you can call off the wake
22:44.45ckknighthey Kalamadi
22:45.13uszckknight, hows AceComm in TBC and that tainting problem?
22:45.34ckknightwhat problem would that be?
22:45.50uszor there was none? i remember there used to be some problem some time ago
22:46.16uszyou guys even posted in that Iriel thread on blizz forums about it
22:46.40JoshBorkedidn't it have to do with hiding the custom acecomm stuff from the menus?
22:46.58ckknightmmm... no, that was fixed
22:47.11ckknightthere was an issue with people not being able to /assist, but that works now...
22:49.35IndustrialAnyone ever made a castingbar?
22:49.40IndustrialEXCEPT FOR OCB
22:49.42Industriallol
22:49.43Industrial:P
22:50.26eternally777Why does oCB create a whole new bar?
22:50.48CIA-1703neriak * r16414 10FruityLoots/ (FruityLoots.lua FruityLoots.toc):
22:50.48CIA-17FruityLoots:
22:50.48CIA-17- changed version to 2.0, made LootFrame a UISpecialFrame
22:51.29IndustrialYeah I looked at it and it was quite a bit of code
22:51.40Industrialso I thought  maybe theres an even smaller way
22:51.41Industrial:P
22:51.56eternally777What can I say?  Great minds think alike.
22:52.35hasteeternally777: it would quite a lot of code to style the default castbar, and there are lots of add ons that play with it
22:52.44hasteso it's a hassle when it comes to user-feedback
22:53.01hastebut yeah, I've created a oCB styled default castbar, but I tossed it away
22:53.35eternally777I figured there was a reason.  I knew you had to have thought of that.
22:53.57hasteI was thinking of doing it on TBC also
22:54.12Industrialhaste: JoshBorke suggested its just a bar with an onupdate - did you do it like that?
22:54.26hasteIndustrial: oro?
22:54.44Industrialmaking it move:P
22:55.01eternally777Make it a candybar ^^
22:55.02JoshBorkeIndustrial: that's how the default UI does the castbar
22:55.03hastenow I'm unsure what you mean :D
22:55.05IndustrialI know crap doodle about how to make things move on your interface (like MSBT/CTC/castingbars)
22:55.24hasteOnUpdate
22:55.30JoshBorkeIndustrial: i'll haev you know, you're distracting me from drooling over the GeForce 8800
22:55.31Industrialoki
22:55.38IndustrialJoshBorke: ha!
22:55.54JoshBorkeIndustrial: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/11215875/FrameXML/CastingBarFrame.lua
22:55.55hasteI've also thought about making a castbar with only a texture
22:56.03hasteso it just changes the anchoring :p
22:56.18eternally777Can you do that in TBC?
22:56.29JoshBorkeeternally777: as long as you can't click it
22:56.32hasteyou can do that now if youw ant too
22:56.42JoshBorkeIndustrial: line 102 shows the castbar OnUpdate
22:56.57Industrialwhy is there a StstusBar frame btw, isnt it just two frames slapped on top of eachother whereas you could just do that yourself and SetWidth() the top onw?
22:57.01IndustrialJoshBorke: ok
22:57.40JoshBorkethe castbar consists of a statusbar which has a spark that you position to the value of the statusbar
22:57.43IndustrialI tried that with vertical unitframe bars once and it worked good :P
22:58.04JoshBorkestatusbars are better than setwidth
22:58.17JoshBorkebecause when you setvalue a statusbar it doesn't have to do any anchoring checks
22:58.19XuerianJust anchor the spark to one side of the progress frame...?
22:58.25Xuerian>.<
22:58.28Industrialoh
22:58.38JoshBorke(you can thank cladhaire for that tidbit)
22:58.49Industrial^^
22:59.05Industriallearn a thing a day :o
23:00.19Mi|es_ooooooooohhh shiny!
23:00.21JoshBorkeback to drooling
23:00.45Mi|es_playtesting an aUF addon. It shows the hp/mp loss as a fadeout highlight
23:00.47XuerianShiny? What shiny?
23:00.51Mi|es_discord bar style
23:00.58Mi|es_*unitframe
23:01.10XuerianStreetfighter-game style. Nifty
23:01.40JoshBorkeMi|es_: hm.  wasn't there an addon that did that?  over-wrote StatusBar SetValue and did it in an OnUpdate
23:01.57JoshBorkeor maybe i'm thinking of something else
23:01.57XuerianWhat I'd like to see is smooth updates =\
23:02.06XuerianThat was gello's smooth statusbars, I tink
23:02.11Xuerians/tink/think/
23:02.12Mi|es_smooth updates?
23:02.14JoshBorkeyea, that's it
23:02.21Mi|es_heh
23:02.31XuerianMi|es_: Yes, instead of just disappearing, the values smoothly transition
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23:02.39dweash02hey
23:02.45hasteCOLORS?!??!
23:02.48XuerianZOMG
23:03.00dweash02?
23:03.04XuerianPitchforks and torches, people, PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!
23:03.10hasteTurn that off please
23:03.11dweash02lol
23:03.15hastelike, now
23:03.20dweash00?
23:03.26dweash?
23:03.30hastethere!
23:03.32Industrialdweash: irssi.org, silverex.org
23:03.34usz04A07 08M09 12G
23:03.36hastehi there
23:03.47JoshBorkeMi|es_: which aUF addon and how does it do it?
23:03.49dweashwhats wrong with colors
23:03.49Mi|es_mm
23:03.52XuerianWhat, does irssi show colors as tags?
23:04.15IndustrialXuerian: no as colors, but it doesnt come with a huge anoying scripting community like mirKs
23:04.16JoshBorkeno, it doesn't
23:04.19eternally777Some ops were getting upset a few days ago when people spoke in... *gulp* colors..
23:04.26Mi|es_it's an alphaish thing someone made for me. it adds another bar, color (1,0.2,0.2) behind the hp bars of aUF
23:04.37JoshBorkeah, i see
23:04.42Mi|es_when you lose health, it will highlight the change
23:04.44JoshBorkeinteresting concept
23:04.48XuerianIndustrial: It seems like such a ingenious and perfect clientwould have a "Strip colors" feature built right in.
23:05.50AdrineTrillian's IRC client, ghetto as it may be, prevents me from seeing nasty colorses.
23:06.13IndustrialXuerian: sure you can
23:06.25Industrialusing a real programming language, the one if your choice - too.
23:06.31XuerianAll the better.
23:06.36XuerianGuess you can't be arsed to, huh? =D
23:06.41Industrialnope
23:06.45XuerianFigured.
23:06.47Xuerian~console Industrial.
23:06.49purlACTION gives Industrial. the consolation moose
23:06.55dweashk I gota go
23:06.57dweashcya
23:07.07Industrial.
23:07.10Xuerian~whalenutshotdweash - Damn. Missed.
23:07.13Adrine...ok.
23:07.30Mi|es_http://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~chkwok30/oekaboe/aufbarfade.png
23:07.30IndustrialidInterface-2.0 http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5605
23:07.42Industrialack
23:07.42Industrial1.1
23:07.51XuerianIndustrial: Also, I'm not being serious, and am, in fact, joking :p
23:07.58Mi|es_only managed to capture one bar while fading. the effect is pretty neat
23:07.58IndustrialXuerian: orly?
23:08.08XuerianIndustrial: zomg, rly.
23:08.22IndustrialXuerian: thats, like, lol.
23:08.55XuerianIndustrial: I know! It's so, like, awesome how we can like, so totally joke with eachother.
23:09.25Industriallike so uber totally
23:09.36Xueriank, I'm bored.
23:09.47Industrial:P
23:10.07Adrinewtb portal to 55 minutes in the future, will pay for reagent, pst
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23:11.08IndustrialAdrine: k one horadric cube pls
23:11.23Industrialowail LAL worng gaem!
23:12.03ckknightyou know what's cool?
23:12.06ckknightefficiency
23:12.08Adrineice?
23:12.09AdrineThat too
23:12.21ckknightmessing with Cartographer-Notes
23:12.30ckknightI got it so that it memoizes all the zone names
23:12.41ckknightso sending "ShadowmoonValley" across the stream takes all of 4 bytes
23:12.46AdrineOh, nice.
23:12.50ckknighttake that, MapNotes and other equivalents!
23:13.07AdrineAre Shadowmoon and Blade's Edge open in beta yet?
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23:13.43ckknightI have the map unhider info for it
23:13.45NeronixCartographer can share notes?
23:13.50ckknightNeronix, soon.
23:13.54ckknightcoding it now
23:14.09ckknightI'm also setting it up so that it can support more icons later.
23:14.26ckknightso it won't use numbers to tag them, instead using strings
23:14.28ckknightlike "Cross" and "Skull"
23:14.38Industrialckknight: Alphamap has or had this thing where it automatically placed 'interesting' map locations. That would totallyomfgzpwn to have in Cartographer - and for me give some meaning to Cartographer_Notes
23:14.43ckknightall memoized, so it's cheap to send across the stream
23:14.56ckknightIndustrial, interesting?
23:15.08Industrialill look it up sec
23:15.25ckknightalso, do you think that people should be able to place notes on the continents themselves or just the zones?
23:15.38AdrineWhy would you need a note on the continent?
23:15.38ckknightfrankly, I don't see much a point of putting it on the continents...
23:15.54ckknightyea, that's the question of the day
23:15.55AdrineIf someone can think of a compelling use case, I'd say go for it, but until then...
23:16.09AdrineNOTE: THIS IS OUTLAND. IRONFORGE IS NOT HERE.
23:16.19AdrineOh, glad I had that note! Whew!
23:16.24NeronixIndustrial: like Magellan did?
23:16.28eternally777Can you see zone-specific notes from the continent view?
23:16.30IndustrialNeronix: bingo
23:16.34ckknightno, eternally777
23:16.36Industrialckknight: sorry, for Metamap
23:16.38Industrialhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3674-1-magellan-for-metamap.html
23:16.41ckknightOutland's name according to GetMapInfo() is "Expansion01"
23:16.41AdrineNow that WOULD be useful.
23:16.42ckknighthehe.
23:17.03NeronixPErhaps have that point set as a separate module?
23:17.04ckknightAdrine, no real way to do that, as the maps don't line up perfectly, and it'd be inefficient and pointless
23:17.19ckknightoh, I'd be fine having a Magellan-style module.
23:17.28Industrialcoolnes init
23:17.28AdrineFair 'nough.
23:17.28Industrial:P
23:18.25eternally777So if you make a note and forget what zone it was in, you'll have to click through all the zones until you find it?
23:18.35Adrineckknight: Maybe when you mouse over a zone at the continent view, have it pop up a summary of notes in that zone?
23:18.37Industrialckknight: I'm guessing you aren't going to make it, though - or was that not what you were saying :>
23:18.49ckknightAdrine, no, it tells the instances and level of the zone now.
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23:18.51KemayoIs there an ace2 PUG-trust addon yet?
23:18.57ckknightIndustrial, pretty much.
23:18.58Adrine(I haven't used Cartographer, so ignore me if my suggestions don't make sense)
23:19.00ckknightPUG-trust?
23:19.04IndustrialPUG?
23:19.05ckknightAdrine, use it.
23:19.11AdrineI probably should =)
23:19.16NeronixIndustrial: Pick Up Group
23:19.24eternally777No comment on my comment?
23:19.25Industrialk
23:19.30ckknightright, eternally777
23:19.40AdrineMy addon experience tends to go "Hey, my addons are good, ok, don't need any more. Hm, that looks interesting, iI'll try it. Holy crap, how did I live without this? Ok, my addons are good..."
23:19.42KemayoPUG would be pickup-group.  An addon which examines need/greed rolls to check whether people are cheating.
23:20.05AzurewrathAdrine: same here ;)
23:20.21eternally777Perhaps there could be a list of points the user has placed for organizational purposes?
23:20.28IndustrialI scout curse ui.wow and wowi monthly
23:20.38IndustrialI view every addon on it
23:20.39JoshBorkes/scout/scour/?
23:20.42Industrialto not miss anything
23:20.53AdrineI've taken to just browsing the wowace files list on occassion, because 95% of my mods are Ace stuffs now.
23:21.09CIA-1703neriak * r16415 10Paparazzi/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
23:21.09CIA-17Paparazzi:
23:21.09CIA-17- upgraded to AceLocale-2.2 and Metrognome-2.0
23:21.09CIA-17- changed version to 2.0
23:21.09CIA-17- fixed localizations and externals
23:21.32JoshBorkebb al
23:21.37Industrialcya JoshBorke
23:21.41AdrineOoooh.
23:21.45AdrineI just had a neat idea.
23:21.48JoshBorkes/al/all/
23:22.04AdrineI was thinking about the SWG waypoint system. That was actually a pretty nice system, one of the few things I liked about the game.
23:22.08KemayoI'll take the confusion as a sign that no-one has done one yet.  So I shall write one!  (Because my dad asked for it...)
23:22.09JoshBorkeo.O how did that work?
23:22.21ckknightKemayo, good plan.
23:22.36AdrineI could write a mod that basically gave you HUD-overlays on your screen with arrows that point to given waypoint(s)
23:22.38ckknightJoshBorke, that is weird.
23:22.41ckknightbb al
23:22.44ckknights/al/all/
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23:22.54JoshBorkeahahaha! i know!
23:22.55eternally777Adrine: Not a bad idea.
23:22.57JoshBorkebb al
23:22.59AdrineSorta the...how to describe this. Like the arrows you get in flight sims to point you to your target.
23:23.01JoshBorkes/al/all/
23:23.03eternally777Bye JoshBorke
23:23.10JoshBorkeit pulled it from wowi
23:23.10AdrineI could use Cartographer notes as waypoints.
23:23.26JoshBorkeanyway, really leaving now
23:23.32Xuerianhaha.
23:23.39ckknightAdrine, actually, that's been done before, just not very well
23:23.46AdrineOh? Have a link I could look at?
23:23.52ckknightsure don't
23:24.05AdrineI think a good implementation could be really useful, and you could use it for all kinds of things.
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23:24.36Azurewrathman.... i hate PUGs.. even the ones on the test realm are totally retarded..
23:24.38AdrineI'll have to chew on the idea.
23:24.52Azurewraththe Warrior is like the worst tank i've ever seen..
23:26.03XuerianOccasinally you get those ones where heavenly music plays as you slice through mobs without a care, but other than that I agree about pugs >_<
23:26.42AdrineWhat I find really funny is how easy it is to tell who in a PUG is a raider playing an alt, and who isn't.
23:27.03AdrineThere's something that changes about playstyle among regular raiders that really tends to stand out.
23:27.19XuerianThe knowing what to do thing? :p
23:27.27AdrineWell, obviously, but more than that.
23:27.41AdrineIt's kinda...I dunno, a sense of direction, clutch performance, that kind of thing
23:28.24XuerianMore of a "Let's get this done" mindset instead of a "How are we going to do this" <.<
23:28.26Azurewrathif he's an experienced raider and a good player, yes..
23:28.30CIA-1703jjsheets * r16416 10Omnibus/Omnibus.lua: Omnibus - Fixed bug caused by using a global AceLocal object.
23:28.30AdrineI PUGed strath on my warrior a few days ago and my priest was obviously a raider. The other three were basically clueless, but once the priest and I got a feel for each other, we were just carving through things with the other three kinda tagging along.
23:29.12AdrineThe priest wasn't really raid geared, but the way she played was very...efficient and aware.
23:29.48XuerianNot so much a raider alt, but a experienced player, either way you look at it
23:29.50AdrineI talked to her in whispers about halfway through the run, and sure enough, it was an alt of someone in one of the other raiding guilds on the server.
23:30.21AdrineI dunno. I think it has something to do with perceived difficulty.
23:30.34AdrineGoing into strath, even as an undergeared warrior, just doesn't have the same perceived difficulty that it used to.
23:31.02XuerianAyep
23:31.16AdrineWhen Strath is the hardest thing someone has done, it shows in how they approach the instance
23:31.32CIA-1703jerry * r16417 10/branches/lern2count/: lern2count Created branch folder
23:31.35AdrineWhen someone is spending half the week running Naxx, Strath is happy fun goof off land.
23:31.42Adrine*shrug*
23:32.12XuerianSortof like taking guildie alts though maraudon and aggro'ing all the hydras and half the rock golems? =D
23:32.15AzurewrathStrat in T2-T3 is fun ;)
23:32.34uszckknight, DEvla from wowi made conversion of my TooltipExchange mod to TBC, but he insists AceComm-2.0 is tainted and breaks some macros
23:32.36Azurewrathdid the 45min run for an alt in like.. 25 minutes or something, don't know anymore
23:32.41pastamancerI still haven't done an all-priest strath.  All priest scholo is awesome
23:32.50ckknightusz, I need specifics.
23:32.54KemayoI remember the very first time I played, running around the human newbie zone feeling "OMG I'M GONNA DIE!!!".  I'm not proud.
23:33.03CIA-1703jerry 07jerry * r16418 10lern2count/: lern2count (jerry's branch) Created folder
23:33.14Xuerianlol
23:33.21AdrineHeh, four of my guildmates went and did a 4.5-person run of the first few trash pulls in MC a few weeks ago.
23:33.23uszwell he says that, i dont know what is the specific problem, if/when i get TBC key from wowi myself, I will tell you exactly whats the problem
23:33.30Adrine(.5 because one of the warriors was dual-boxing a priest)
23:33.58Xuerianlol
23:34.20CIA-1703jerry 07jerry * r16419 10lern2count/lern2count/: lern2count (jerry's branch) : Creating branch
23:35.18Azurewrathgreat... my gear is now at 13% and were still wiping in Hellfire Ramparts because the retarted T0 "tank" needs like 5 minutes to realise that the dragon landed..
23:36.08AdrineThey should incorporate a simple IQ test into the LFG system.
23:36.14AdrineAnd a reaction speed test.
23:36.32Azurewraththat would be great..
23:36.33AdrineAnd bracket appropriately.
23:36.50CIA-1703neriak * r16420 10AHFavorites/AHFavorites.lua: AHFavorites.lua - there still was some ChatFrame spam hidden inside ;)
23:37.24CIA-1703jjsheets * r16421 10Omnibus/ (Omnibus.lua Omnibus_enUS.lua): Omnibus - Additional translation bug fixes, and bugfix for template overwrite bug.
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23:40.16Azurewrathnice ... the Tank wears a Battlefell Sabre of Stamina green crap weapon but Don Julios Band..
23:40.55AdrineWe had a warrior come to BWL in a Cape of the Black Baron.
23:41.04AdrineHe didn't bring any other capes. Including his Ony cloak.
23:41.13JJSheetsckknight: I am seeing duplate cursor position and player position texts at the bottom of cartographer.
23:41.20JJSheetss/duplate/duplicate/
23:41.28ckknightJJSheets, turn off the map overlay in LocationFu
23:41.37JJSheetsthanks
23:42.37JJSheetsLet me check... it may be something else causing the problem tho, since I don't have LocationFu active...  I'll hunt around.. I know it isn't oSkin, since I disabled that.  :)
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23:47.16JJSheetsckknight:  It's RecZone that's doing it.
23:47.26ckknightdon't use RecZone, I obseleted that.
23:47.35ckknight:-P
23:47.38JJSheetswhere was my damn memo.  :p
23:47.47JJSheetshow bout them TPS reports too
23:47.49ckknightuse LocationFu
23:47.55JJSheetswill do...
23:48.02ckknightI stole all the cool features from RecZone and put it into TouristLib
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23:49.14Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=PetExtend&rcid=9960
23:49.18ckknightusz, you US?
23:49.25uszckknight, nope, i am EU
23:49.25Tekkub"and hopefully the TOC grabbing script grabbed the information out of PetExtend's TOC"
23:49.29ckknightdamn
23:49.32TekkubI love people that READ WHAT I SAID
23:49.35Tekkub*growl*
23:49.44ckknighthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46544985&postId=464708954&sid=1#0 <-- please repetitively bump this until slouken sees it.
23:50.12IndustrialTekkub: we all read what you say
23:50.20Industrial\o/ _o_ \o/ _o_
23:50.33JJSheetstekkub:  lol
23:50.53uszokay, so how do i make script to grab info from my addon in trunk?
23:51.06Industrialman svn
23:51.07Industrial:D
23:51.13Industrial*giggle*
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23:51.38Temckknight, that problem is being worked on
23:51.45Temckknight, you do not need to make such a pest of yourself
23:51.48ckknightTem, I was never told previously that it was.
23:51.57ckknightespecially since I had posted about it previously.
23:52.13ckknightI gave the solution and everything.
23:52.18ckknightso I don't consider myself pest-like
23:52.32Temand no, that won't solve all the problems
23:52.43Temit's not uncommon for people to taint this.editbox
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23:53.13ckknightI'm not tainting that, I'm just tainting ChatFrame_OnEvent
23:53.25ckknightthat's the only problem I'm worried about
23:53.30Tem...
23:54.13ckknightI'm gonna go get something to eat.
23:54.18ckknightcya all in a bit
23:54.39Industrial'taint' ?
23:54.54ckknightIndustrial, taint is the antonym of secure
23:54.58Temalso, you need to pass the "send" parameter to parsetext
23:55.04Xuerianenjoy, ckknight :p
23:55.09IndustrialI TAINTED UR MOM
23:55.11Temotherwise it aborts before it does anything
23:55.14Industrialsorry I just had to say that
23:55.21CIA-1703tekkub * r16422 10PetExtend/PetExtend.toc: PetExtend - Hey mpstark, you have to touch the .toc file if you want the wiki to update...
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